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THE SUN, LONDON, FRID AY EVENING, JULY 5, MO. me personally to know that whatever little differences of opinion there may have been between us, there has sab 2,.isted no p:rsonal hesiility on either side. lam confi dent ;here has been none on mine. —(Hear, hear.) I have never been one of those who attributed unworthy rnotiv.ts for a ctairse of conduct which I deeply lament. I believe that in that step which reduced me to the painful necessity of diffs•ring from Sir Hobert Peel's Administration—l believe that in that step he was actuated by a sincere and conscientious desire to attain that which he thought was for the country's good; and mistaken as I think he was in that view, I am confident that on that occasion, as on all other occasions, that was the leading principle of his public life. I believe that to the promotion of what he considered to be the welfare and interest of the country he was prepared to make every sacrifice—(Hear) — and that indeed in some cases he did make sacrifices so ex tensive that I hardly know whether that great and para mount object of his country's good was suffi _dent to ex act such sacrifices from any public man. But this is not the Vale to speak of differences or disagreements. A great man, a great statesrea , ,. has passed away from among us by a sudden and inscrutable dispensation of Providence. He has left in the other House—he has left among his compeers—he has left in his country, a great void. 'We are deprive lof the services of a great, a powerful, and a laborious intellect f his unflinching diligence—his unsparing application of all his best talents—of his strength, his health, and all his great., powers, to the service of his country. This, my Lords, is a moment at which all political considerations must cease, and at which the most solemn feelings must im press themselves on your Lordshipe'minde of the vanity of all human hopes and of all human ambition—of the imtability of those things on which the destinies of na tions depend, and at which it is not unfitting to remem ber that we are in the hands of one who "rules the des tinies of men forever and ever."—(Hear, hear.) lam sure that in these views I shall be joined by every mem ber of your Lordships' House—l am sure that I shall be joined in them by the country at large—l am sure that I shall be joined in them by universal Europe. I believe that we all participate in a feeling of deep regret for the sudden bereavement which his family has sustained, and the great loss which has been inflicted on this country by the sudden removal of one who in private life was universally admitted to have been strictly irreproachable and possessed of every virtue; and to whom, whatever may have been the differences of our political views, no man will deny the praise of having been an able, Heal ous, and a conscientious servant of his country .—(r.) Lord BROUGHAM said—l hopel may be permitted, with my Noble Friend who last addressed your Lord ships, to linger for a moment on a point on which no difference of opinion can prevail among us. It was my fortune during the last 40 years to have been very gene rally opposed to the late Sir Robert Peel on those great questions which agitated this country throughout that period; and I have live I to acknowledge cheerfully and conscientiously to acknowledge, the splendid merits of that eminent individual, and to be convinced that even on those points on which we most widely differed he acted from the purest and most consci mtious motives. In the last stage of his public life, chequered as it was, and chequered as I told your Lordships that it would be, by events of a kind most painful to an amiable, a generous, and an honourable mind, when, from purely public-spirited views, he adopted acouree dis pleasing to those with whom he bad so long been con nected, I said, and I now repeat it, that he had only to turn from the storm without to the sunshine of an ap proving conscience within. Whether he was right, or whether he was wrong, upon that occasion, lam sure that the course which he followed was that which he believed the interests of his country demanded, while, in pursuing that course, he made sacrifices compared with which all the other sacrifices I have ever known to have been made by a public min to a sense of duty sink into absolute nothingness.—(Hear, hear.) He is now gone to reap the just rewards of his merits and his patriotism; and I believe we may no t inappropriately apply to him the words of the great Roman orator:— " Oraninus, qui tatriam conserverint, adjuverint, euxerint, certum ease in ccelo definitum locum, übi beati men sempiterno frauntur, nihil est claim principi Deo, qui omnem hunt mundum reget, Trod q tidem in terris fiat, acceptius, eoncilia, ccetusqae hominum, jure sociati, gum eivitetes a ppellantur: harem rectore; et conservatores hint profecti, hue revertuntur." The Noble and Learned Lord was then about to address the House on the subject of the proposed exhibition in Hyde-park, when The Doke of WELLINGTON, with eyes suffused with tears, and a voice tremulous with emotion, pro • ceeded to address their Lordships to the following effect: —My Lords, I rise to express the satisfaction with which I heard the language just used both by those who had throughout the whole of their political lives been opposed to the late Sir Robert Peel, and by those who had acted with him until within a recent period. Your Lordships have borne your testi mony to l the high longnh aranter of the late con nected with him in ,publi c life, and in conducting her op r a was b le Robert andh(At Peel. Majesty's councils ; and I had also the honour of en joying his private friendship. My Lords, during the whole course of my acquaintance with him, I never knew a man animated by a more earnest love of truth, a stronger sense of justice, or a more invariable desire to promote the public service.—(liear, hear.) In the whole course of my communications with him I have never known an instance in which he did not show the strongest attachment to truth ; and I never, in the whole course of my transactions with him, saw th• smallest reason to suspect that he stated anything that was not consistent with the fact. I could not allow this opportunity to pass by without thus stating what I believe to have been the most character istic feature in his character, and without expressing my satisfaction at hearing the sentiments uttered by Noble Lords around me, anl at finding the impression made on your Lordships by the announcement of this !oss.—(Hear, hear.) The Duke of CLEVELAND said he happened to have entered the University of Oxford a few months after the late Sir R. Peel. He had ever since had the advantage of enjoying his friendship, and he had enter tained the most extreme regard for the Right lion. Baronet, while he looked upon him as one of the greatest ornaments of this country, and as one of the most emi nent and successful of our statesmen. THE PROPOSED EXHIBITION - OF WORKS OF INDUSTRY IN HYDE-PARK. Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from a gen tleman of the name of Eiger, an architect, complaining of the great depreciation of property which had taken place in the neighbourhood of Knightsbridge, in conse quence of the proposal to hold in the adjoining portion ,f Hyde-park the exhibition of the works of industry of all nations in the year 1851. The Noble and Learned Lord also read a letter from Mr. Justice Cresswell, stating the great annoyance to which the adoption of that proposal would expose the residents in that dis trict. Lord BROUGHAM then rose and said, he had re ceived remonstrances couched iu the strongest language against that proposal from 80 most respectable persons raiding at Knightsbridge. The private individuals re siding in that neighbourhood had constructed, at their own expense, Richmond Gate, a very beautiful structure; and that gate would he ore of the principal means of access to the exhibition. He had never met any person hholdihgandutiletensitaantdedasatemaiosmhmenetaitn atex ptrheessaitntgemthpet who was not connected with the board or with the corn w ne w swt as now about being made to destroy public pro perty,,hhleo —(Laughter)—what t i os v nf a ga ibh e toeeuirpnt) proposed oe i pvrwimodhs right, t rhi com mission hog and to invade and infringe upon the sacred rights buildinging a —g great ( tr ahet he Tower wn . o ) nvesuuel ledrlheoa asfki3m,wouldßabel—(Laugh ter)—but en: e—tr a ha( s e k Lsy right had those persons who were going to build, what ter)—but what he might desi g nate an Egyptian Pyramid a w wtuo te gh u dha l dot so? They would cut up the roads in the neighbour make it impossible for the inhabitants to reside com tenably under the shelter of their own roofa alany hundreds of tbousauds of tons of materials were to be drawn about there ; and they were told that no less than 400 large carts would be employed daily, and ter some portions of the day 100 of these would be en tering the gates at the rate of one every minute and a half. The inhabitants called upon their Lordships to protect them from these nuisances. And all this was to take place in addition to the ordinary traffic. The erec tiou of an immense steam-engine, too, was a matter of course. But that, they were told, would consume its own 4moke. It would be very soon found, he feared, as in a great many similar instances, that its own smoke would he only partly consume 1. But what would be the consequences of having such countless congregations of multitudes of suspicious characters, to the Belgrave, the Kensington, and the surrounding districts. lie looked et that part of the question with serious alarm. The Government was responsible for the public peace. He was told that in a financial point of view there were great difficulties. He would ask whether it was intended to let the speculators rely on their own resources, or whether a grant of public money was to be given to aid them ? He had no doubt the public money would, in the end, be required for that purpose. When a great cuilding of that kind had been erected in France, in the Champs Elyt 6 is, it had notcost more than about 18,0001., while that which is now proposed to build here would cost four times that sum. Instead of bein conostructed of lath and plaster, as that was, this was be built of brick and morter, and was to be, moreover, sur mounted with a great cupola or dome, which, he would venture to say, would cost ten times more than might be calculated. He spoke in an assembly of builders,— (Clear, and laughter.) Their Lordships must all of them have been, at some time or other, engaged in building operations, and could appreciate the expenses attendant upon such, especially if there was much super intendence on their parts going on during the building. He had on one occasion built a house, and a Noble Friend of his having asked how much it cost, and having been told, expressed his astonishment that it should have cost so little. He had said that from the time it was commenced until he went to hang up his hat in it (to use a common phrase) hal never gone near it.— —(Laughter.) " Ob," sai he d his friend, "that must have been the reason that it cost so little, for had you visited it, you might have been making little alterations here and there that would have made it more expen sive." So it would be in the present instance. The expenses of that building, he considered, would be enormous. He would ask whether the superintendents of police had been examined as to the consequences of collecting together such vast masses of persons as were likely to be drawn there from various causes and motives. They were told that there were no less than from 70,000 to 80.000 persons in this metropolis without any visible means of subsistence; and if were added to these the vast numbers of persons unemployed, the vast numbers of idlers from London. Westminster, Surrey, as far down as Deplord and Greenwich, and all to be attracted to Hyde-park to see Lords and ladies, and royalties, and remarkable personages; and supposing all these indi vidual* collected round the great building in Hyde-park, it would be no small police force that would be necessary Lord CAMPBELL said he rose to state why he sup -1 keep order in such a c:oed. But that was not all, ported the m etion, and why ho should vote for it if for they faun 1 that already prep . ...rations were making pressed to a division. He should have been better pleas/ 1 for vast crowds coming up from the country- from if the Noble and Learned L , rd had at once moved an all the largo and small towns. It would re- address to the Throne, praying that the site in Hy& - quire no less than an addition of 1,000 or 2,000 to the park tnig'4 not receive the sanction of the Crown. Bat present p Aloe force of the metropolis to meet that con- the motion of the Noble and Learned Lord was to refer tingency. Supposing only 1,000 additional men were the petitions on the table to a Select Committee. He brought into the force, that would be an expense of did not blame either the Government or the Commis -50,000/ ; and if 2,000 it would be 100,0001. Had those sioners. He blamed no one fur what hld been hitherto expenses been taken into account ?So far as the done, but he should blame them if—after the matter had crowds which were in London at the time of the corona- been so fully discussed, and the lamentable consequences Lion, they were all disposed in various places, and how- pointed out which must arise—they persisted in not ever large, the matter was only the event of a single abandoning Hyde-park as a site for the proposA exhi morning ; but here was a case which would spread over bition. Such an exhibition, embracing, as it would, a series of some months. Several fide ranges of houses specimens of the industry of all nations, was, he ad of the neighbourhood were now to be sold in conse- matte 1, most laudable, and would confer the highest quence of this exhibition and its results, while many of honour on the illustrious individual who had prop* ed those who occupied others either wholly or in part it.—(Rear) The Government .had done nothing more were giving notice of removal to some other locality. than their duty in causing a Commission to be ieeted. Was it just, he would ask, that the inhabitants of this He did not blame the Commissioners; but he thought neighbourhood, including as it did so extensive and re- they might have anticipated a little sooner the lament spectable a district, should be subjected to this annoy- able consequences that would arise from carryi ig out the aece and inconvenience, not for a couple of days, but for plan they had proposed. It was evident from their re many months? From May to November that great, that port, that they were not aware of the mischief that gigantic, that unbearable nuisance was to go on. The would fellow if the site of the exhibition was to be in next question which arose, was as to the right to do Hyde-park They did not appear to have considered what was proposed. No doubt, strictly speaking, the the injury that would be done to the inhabit ants of the property of the parks was vested in the Crown, or rather ceighbeurhood by Hyde-park being chosen as the sit •of in the Commissioners of Woods and Forests for the the exhibition, for they stated it was always intended as Crown. But he considered that since an arrangement a means of recreation and enjoyment for her M ijesty's had been made on that subject, no Sovereign, or no subjects. Did they suppose that the bivouacs, and the board, bad any right to assert an exclusive property in monstrous machines moving to and fro with building them. When George 11. asked Sir Robert Walpole materials, would conduce to the recreation and what might be the expense of enclosing some of the enjoyment of the people? The Noble Lord who parks, that independent Minister had replied that it had just sat down said that brick and mortar would not cost much—that it would only coat a crown; would not probably be used; but could an immense and so the notion had not been attempted to be carried structure, such as that proposed, with a dome much out. It had been said, however, that the proposed larger than St. Paul's, be erected in Hyde-park without buildings were to be but temporary. But that was taking a great deal of traffic and annoyance to the neighbours? away the rights of the public for a certain time. It Could such a structure be built-without depriving the might be, indeed, that they intended only to erect a tern- public of enjoyment and recreation in Hyde-park for a porary building; but it might afterwards be thought a long period of time? He believed that the shortest pretty structure to look at, and they might not wish to period for which the public would be so deprived of the pull it down. But, speaking on behalf of the public, he free use of Hyde-park would be two years.—(Hear.) would say—" To take my close from me for eighteen Seven months were to be allowed for the removal of the months or two years, to build upon it; and to cut do wn materials, and that would bring the time down to June, nine of my best trees—it is an injury to me to ta ke them 1852, before the ground was completely cleared. Ac • from me." He was then talking of a right of usage of cording to the specifications the structure was to be of a which the public could not be deprived. But there was kind solid as the walls of Nineveh, and were they to be another question which they had to consider. lie had Here that in seven months it would be wholly removed? presented a petition that evening to their Lordships, He could not help thinking that it would have been far which stated that what was about to be done was illegal. better to have selected a site where the structure might It might be said that that was only a petition. But he have remained and been useful for other purposes would ask them whose name was at the head of it? (Hear, hear.) In fact the whole neighbourhood would Why, that of no less a person than Mr. Justice Cress- be sufferers by Hyde-park being fixed upon. He had well. He had heard that that matter was likely to be received a letter from a gentleman residing in Chesham made the subject of an injunction in the Court of Chan- place, a near neighbour of the Prime Minister, in which eery, and that before many hours some steps would be he stated that he had occupied his present house taken in it. It had been said that it would be illegal - to for twelve yearn, and that he had been chiefly induced erect permanent buildings in Hyde.park, but that tem- to do so by Its proximity to Hyde-park. He stated porary ones might be erected without an Act of Perlis- that if the proposed structure was erected it would be went. He confessed he did not understand how such impossible for his wife and children to frequent the park. a conclusion as that could be arrived at. He spoke of His (Lord Campbell's) belief was that it would be impos the proposed building as a nuisance. And the pulling of sible for females or children to frequent Hyde park or it down, supposing that it was pulled down, would also Kensington-gardens fur at least two years. He would contribute to increase the nuisance and inconvenience to not give any opinion as to the legality of the proceed such an extent as no one who had not been in the ings which had been adopted, because he might be vicinity of a great brick and mortar building in process called on in his judicial capacity to pronounce respecting of removal could form any conception of. So far as the them. He would, however, suggest to the Commissioners subject of cartage was concerned that might be discussed to consult once m ore the law officers of the Crown be in the Committee for which he intended to move, if he fore they proceeded farther. By the 10th George IV., obtained it. He had then stated all that he thought it c. 50, s. 25, the Commissioners of Woods and Forests was necessary for him to mention to their Lordships in were prohibited from granting any lease of any portion calling their attention to that subject. He was not un- of Hyde- park, either at a peppercorn rent or otherwise. favourable to the proposed exhibition, he thought much The object of the prohibition was, that the public might good might result from it. He agreed with the Commis- not be deprived of the beaefit of air, recreation, and sioners when they said it would be a pity to give it up exercise. The proposed exhibition would more e ffectu after having so far committed themselves. He should ally debar the public t heir en j o y meats than an y lease be sorry that the exhibition should not go on, but if it which might have been granted of the park for were to go on as proposed in Hyde-park, he would be grazing purposes. He regarded the present scheme prepared to accept the alternative, however much be as in direct violation of the provisions of the Act. might regret it, of not having it at all sooner than it It was not for him to anticipate the effect of the in should take place there. He had then, in conclusion, junction which was to be applied for. But even if there only to move that the petition which he had presented, were no objection in point of law, there were other signed by Mr. Justice Cresswell and others, should be reasons why Hyde-park should not be chosen for the referred to a Select Committee of their Lordships. exhibition. With regard to Reeenths-park, a covenant Earl GRANVILLE said, although it was obvious prevented the erection of buildings, but had not the pre there were other Noble Lords present more competent scriptive right of the public to the enjoyment of Hyde to reply to the speech of the Noble and Learned Lord park a force (gull to any covenant?—(Hear, hear.) A who had just addressed the House than he was, yet as few years ago it was proposed to erect a church in he was connected both with the Government and the Hyde-park, but the feeling was so strong against it that Commissioners of the Exhibition of 1831, he trusted he the design was abandoned. Ile believed that a better would be permitted to make some observations in reply site might without difficulty have been found. He should to the speech of the Noble and Learned Lord.—(hear.) be sorry if the ex hibition was abandoned, but it was bet- And first, with respect to the part which the Govern- ter that expectations should be disappointed, than that moat had taken in reference to that exhibition. He could the rights of individuals should suffer or the public be only find three acts in which they had come forward. deprived of what they had a right to enjoy. lie did That exhibition had been suggested four or five months not think they should lower themselves in the opinion of before the end of the last year by the Society of Arts; foreign nations if, finding the scheme had been somewhat and an application had been made to the Govern- inconsiderately brought forward, they did not persevere ment to assist it by engaging the confidence of with it when they found public opinion against it, as the people of this country, and giving such pledges depriving them of rights which they had long enjoyed. as they could rely on. The Government accordingly After a few words from Lord BROUGII AM, who had recommended the appointment of a Royal Commis• said he would not press his motion to a division, sion, and had undertaken to pay the trifling expenses Lord REDESDALE expressed his regret that the site attendant on the formation of such a Commission. should have been chosen in Hyde-park. Tne members of that Commission had been selected from Atter a few remarks from the Earl of Lonsdale, Earl among persons distinguised in art and scienc e, and in Fitz william, and Lord Brougham, order that the project might be considered national and The Earl of ELLENBOROUGII said, although he not political, from among men of all parties. With that did not concur in the selection of the site, he believed view Vie Noble Lord the Prime Minister, the Noble Lord it would be convenient in two respects; it was flanked opposite, the leader of the Opposition, the lamented Sir by the bar a :ke on one side, and the river on the other. R. Peel—to whose memory a tribute had just been paid The vicinity of the barracks would be useful in the case by their Lordships—as well as other leading personages, of a riot, and the river in the event of a fire. bad been appointed :to that Commission. And here he The motion was then withdrawn. might be permitted to say that he believed the last public METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS BILL. duty which the late Sir R. Peel performed was to attend Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from Wool a meeting of the Commission on Saturday last, only a wich against the Metropolitan Interments Bill, and a few hours before the melancholy accident which led to similar petition from certain undertakers, praying to be his death. He felt somewhat encouraged in the state- heard a'tainst the Bill. went he was about to make, when he recollected he was The Bishop of LONDON presented a petition from acting very much on the plan which that late lamented the Metropolitan Sanitary Association in favour of the gentleman had laid down. He thought the Commis- Bill. sioners were not to be blamed, inasmuch as the objections The Earl of CARLISLE then moved that the Bill be to Hyde-park as a site had all been recently started, and committed. as the 10th George IV., cap. 50, permitted the erection L ,rd BROUGHAM moved as an amendment that of temporary buildings in that park. As to cutting the Bill be referred to a Select Committee, and that the down certain tress, more importance had been attached petition which had been presented be referred to the to it, in his opinion, than it deserved.—(Elear.) The Committee. plan hal been drawn up so as to avoid the necessity of The Earl of ELLENBOROUGII supported the injuring a great number of trees. A difficulty had been amendment, thinking the Bill could be more conveni found with regard to a small clump of young trees and ently considered up stairs, inasmuch as it touched one old one. On the matter being referred to his Noble matters deeply affecting the feelings of individuals. Friend at the head of the Woods and Forests, he psi- Considering the late period of the session, however, he tively refused to give up the old tree, but consented to should strongly object to the hearing of any evidence on the removal of the clump of smaller ones.—(Hear.) He the subject should now allude to the charges against the Royal Lord REDESDALE and the Bishop of LONDON thought Commissioners. Some Noble Lords objected from diffe- a Select Committee preferable, provided it did not delay rent motives to the exhibition itself. To such objections the passing of the measure. it was not necessary for him to made any answer. The Lord BROUGHAM disclaimed any such intention, Noble and Learned Lord opposite had to-night admitted and for the third time that he approved of the exhibition.— The Earl of CARLISLE then assented to the amend (" Hear," from Lord Brougham.) But as the Noble went, and the Bill was referred to a Select Committee Lord had from the beginning refused to subscribe to- accordingly. wards the expense of carrying it out, he doubted whether BENEFICES IN PLURALITY BILL. the Noble and Learned Lord had a locus stendi in the Lord LY r TLETON moved the second reading of this matter of the building.—( Hear, hear.) Hyde-park had Bill, the object of which is to make benefices in plurality been given out as the site of the exhibition so far back more contiguous. He was of opinion that they should as July last.—(Hear, hear.) As soon as the site was touch each other at some point, anal that the churches fixed on it was announced through the newspapers to should not be more than two miles apart. There was a the public, and through the Foreign-office to other proviso in the Bill relative to benefices not exceeding countries. A very ingenious gentleman, a member of 1001. in value. Now he proposed that in the case of a the local committee of Westminster, objected to Hyde- living under 1001. being contiguous to another, however park, and proposed the Regent's-park; but in April large, they might go together. last a requisition was signed by about 600 persons, for a The Bishop of LONDON acquiesced in the general meeting at Chelsea on the subject, and among other principle of the Bill, but considered certain ameadments names was that of the Hon. W. Campbell, MP. That necessary. meeting was called to promote the purpose of the ex- The Bishop of SALISBURY expressed his concur hibition, and the requisitionists stated that they con- rence in the measure, which had been introduced into sidered it would be of great advantage to the metropolis, the House of Commons by a private Member, without more especially to the west end of it.—(Hear.) Rather any communication with the members of the ecclesiastical more than two months ago the Noble and Learned Lord body, or any concert with the Government. He should like himself had on three occasions introduced the subject to to seethe holding of pluralities limited to the greatest pos - their Lordships, and though the debate was one which, sibla extent consistent with the proper performance of no doubt, was extensively read, still no objection was the clerical functions. The existing law was no doubt made. Indeed, he was not aware that any one had sup- capable of some limitation, for, nevertheless, he could ported the Noble and Learned Lord in his objection to not say that it had been inoperative.—(Rear.) He held Hyde-park, either in that House or at any public meet- in his hand a return showing the manlier in which bone ing. The Commissioners had no desire to oppose them- fices in plurality had been reatric•ed since the passing of selves to any reasonable feeling, and, anxious to ewer- the Ist Victoria, in 1838. At that, time the number of tain if they could get out of the difficulty, referred the non-resident incumbents was 4,307, of whom 1,184, who matter to the building committee. After much consi- were not actually resident in the benefices, were never deration, they reported that the plans could not be theless performing the duties of their own cures. At adapted to any other site with any possibility of the the close of 1848 the number of non-resident incumbents building being completed within the specified time, and had been reduced from 4,307 to 3,094, showing a dimi that change of site would be tantamount t > an aban-, nution of upwards of 1,200. In 1838 there were only doninent of the exhibition for another year.—(Hear.) If 5,859 resident incumbents, but in 1848 the number anything was calculated to produce further delay, it was had advanced to 7,779, showing an increase of nearly the reference of this question at this period to a Select 2,000. In 1838 the while number of incumbents cluing Committee of that House. The chief objection of the their own duty was 7,043, whilst in 1848 the num- Noble and Learned Lord rested on the inconvenience ber was 8,893, being an increase of nearly 1,9,)0. which would be caused to the inhabitants in the neigh- In 1838 the residents houses amounted to 7,364, bourhood of Hyde-park; but the entire road was to be but in 1848 the number was 7,917, showing nearly kept open as usual, and the Commissioner of Woods and 600 additional houses. In 1838 the curates of non-resi- Forests had under his consideratien a suggestion which, dent incumbents amounted to 3,078, but in 1848 the if carried out, would lessen any inconvenience the inha- number was only 1,908 under any circumstances; whilst bitants might be subjected to. With regard to the th e curates of resident incumbents had increased from traffic that would be caused by 'the conveying of build- 1,725 in 1838 to 2,998 in 1848, being an increase of more ing materials, ho believed it would not equal three than 1,200. He considered this a satisfactory proof that weeks' traffic on any of the roads in the neighbourhood the existing law was gradually coming into effectual of any of the principal railroad stations in London. operation.—(Hear.) Some unnecessary alarm had been excited among the After a few words from Earl POWIS, inhabitants of Knightsbridge by the specifications which The Bill was read a second time. had been made on this point. The first paragraph of The Earl of CHICHESTER moved the second read the report would show that the building was'to be of a ing of the Larceny Summary Jurisdiction Bill. The Bill temporary character, and that the materials were to be was to provide a check on juvenile delinquency, and at sold. The size of the building, and the dome in partie the same time to afford expeditious and economical pun cuter, had excited alarm; but if he might be allowed nishment to juvenile offenders. to repeat a bad pun, he might say that the doom of that The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to dome had been pronouuced.—(Laughter.) For his own be committed on Thursday next. part, as a Commissioner, be should object to the use of Their Lordships then adjourned. brick and mortar in the structure. Something had been said as to the immense concourse of people which woult be drawn together in Hyde-park, and as to the necessity of a great increase of the police force. He did not think that a less police force would be necessary if the exhibition was to take place on some common out of town. But the number of police that would be required had been ex aggerated. He believed, at the agricultural exhibition that took place annually, and at which many thousands assembled, 100 special constables and nine regular policemen were all that were found necessary to preserve order and peace. It was a reflexion upon our artisans who were saving money to enable them to come to the exhibition, to suppose that they were per sons likely to create disorder and tumult.—(Hear, hear.) During Whit Monday last no fewer than 30,000 persons bad gone through the British Museum without any thing occurring to require the interference of the police.—(Hear, hear.) He believed it would be a great disappointment to the working classes of this country if the exhibition was postponed or abandoned. Having sent to foreign countries inviting them to appoint com missions to further the objects of the exhibition it would be almost a national disgrace if we were now to disap point them. Not wishing to interfere by unnecessary delay in carrying out the exhibition, h e implored the House not to refer the matter to a Select Committee. After a few words from Lord 13BOUGHAD1 and Earl Gary on a point of order, . UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE. CAMBRIDGE, JULY 4.—At a Congregation holden this day th i following degrees were conferred:— H ON ORARY, M.A.—Hon. Julian Henry Charles Fane, Trinity College (fourth son of the Earl of West moreland). M.A.—C. P. Miles, Caius College; J. P. Dykes, T. H. Lister, and W. M. Wray, Catharine Hall; W. P. Snell, Downing College. Mr. Shilleto, of Trinity College, was appointed De puty Proctor, in the absence of the Senior Proctor, Mr. Middleton; and Mr. Hedley, of Trinity College, Deputy Proctor, in the absence of the Junior Proctor, Mr. Marsh. [ADVERTISEMENIT.j—There is no remedy equal to Holloway's Pills for the cure of Dropsy.—Mr. James Smith, of Oxford-street, Manchester, suffered for years from a dropt sical complaint, his body and legs were swollen to a most alarming extent, and no hopes whatever were entertained of his recovery. He was for some time in the hospital, besides having taken every variety of medicine usually prescribed in such cases, yet all proved useless, and he w as p ronounced incur able. Holloway's Pills were then resorted to, which soon had the effect of improving his health and reducing the swelling, so that now he is perfectly cured of that direful complaint by taking these wonderful pills.—Sold by all Druggists and at Pro fessor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand, London. the grant was, in his opinion, on the report of VAe instructors as to the number of children properly Park was a double trust of the Sovereign--viz., for the , Il L blie, and for a e successors of the Sovri.,ig,n on tb t uro u p . It Was, therefore, highly desirable that the AT- arn eY-General s h ou ld c l ear up t h e l eg ,d quc s;ion on this point. Lord J. RUSSELL said the lion. and Learned Gentleman the M em b er for Newark had laid down a doctrine which the Hon. Gentleman who had just spels o h should well consider--namely, whether it will not decide a question of la w, and whether the Right ).:lon. Member fir the University of Oxford had not gone too fer when he desired that the Helm should com e to no d ec i sion on the legal question. The question ef ore the H ouse was not a question of law; it wastneely a question as t.) whit they should think it Proper to do —to offer advice to the Crown in reference to the exhibition in connexion with the rights of the he 1 1) , 11h lics or n o t to offer such advice. That quesion should i 8 kept c l ear from all others. If private rights were il l frin g ed upon, and if priv rte prrties had chosen to en P Y to the courts of law for redress, that House had un doubtedly nothin to do with the matter. But such was beotdthe„case. With respect, however, totheestionto Ilectued, he was of opinion that the discussion which ld takea place had been of some use, and tha , t . th t e . ~o use had nearly come to a conclusion on the su n lj ) e o c ,e live thought he represented the fooling of the ' was d u et' he said that no building of any permanency estred, that no enormous dome should be erected, and in t hat no i n j ury should b e done to t h e grea t trees 17 t ue park.—(H ear, h ear.) S o f ar t h e Ti e ,Lion 1 "perfectly c l ear. But he was also of opinion that t h e e se did not think it necessary to address the Crown n the subject of the exhibitien. If this was the case_, th ere b _ s were only one or two points on which he (Lord twa J s . ..".1 bus felt called upon to address the House. I ' l . ll d that the Commission took an arbitrary view of the . I re. and said that if the exhibition was not to be the f idespark it would not be at all. That was not .n whole The Commissioners, having investigated the pesos and examined ' the most competent wit that ad come to the conclusion early in February f H yde -park was the fittest and most proper place known, or the e xhibition. This conclusion they made tinesly to the people of this country, but on te Con th the general public, in short, was informed that Con the exhibition was to be held in Hyde-park. Subee tllrtlaerl;lY the Commissioners issued proposals for working to - 17 41 gs of Plans, on the suppoiition that Hyde-park was only e the site. Having done all these things, they now i.. said it was too late to make any change if the exhi "Y" was to take place in 1851. They had examined . ecg_ine!rs., surveyors, and architects; and . the entire houlmission were satisfied that the exhibition should be p ci n i : l Hyde -park, or it could not be held at all at the u eti " fix ed. The next point to be referred to was the c t fe e stion of sacrifice. As his Noble Friend suggeste, there should be sacrifice somewhere, and he (Lord John . ~slell) certainly admitted that to put the exhibhic,ti6ocon orin re•park wee a might cause some inconvenience to t eo n , .P nts of houses in its vicinity. It might . also in caseßjd e th nl e e r re some riders in Rotten-row, though in their could he compensation. But, on the othe n r w ea l tle sacrifice to the working classes of London other be immense, if the exhibition was placed on any o Wouldi..ol site than Ilyde-park. Those, for example,. who seven h .s,re in such case to make a journey of six or es on mien would lose an entire day; while thos n kaL e ' , one the country would haveee second journey to f or e' s ; st a cost of money and a sacrifice of time. There the ' 4 was in th e i nterest o f th e great majority that exhibition should take place in Elyde-park.Hear.) IN. ,he qeestion been brought before the House in Si o• °ti e s though he did not say that a different deci tire, would be arrived at, still there would . be of to change the site, if that decision was could adverse character. As it was, the change d 441 not h e , -e made. He trusted the House would e disc on the amendment, because he believed that ever ;set, ; v „ -B sLon would induce the Commission to make Well' se..ort Possible to accommodate the public as to protect private interests; but he hoped "der' would not een,..,,any ci rcumstances that the House _ e. h Ette s'" to the motion for the adjournment of the d •---(Hear ) An th ' would , 'NOURABLE MEMBER. asked whether the . park ae y ue opened during the whole time to public co ances ? Lord J . , 13 *o4ld . RUSSELL said, no doubt the Commissioners Sir „give every facility. to w i ti t : . , HALL would, after what had rassed, consent Th e ura " SPEAK motion.---(Cries of " Ob.") ble at ER put the question whether the amend order should be wi hdrawn—(Cries of " Oh ")—and then c0 :11 the galleries to be cleared. ° l l th i'lnel SIBTHORP said he would divide the House ~,, :t great hunabug.—(Laughter.) 44 House then divided, ashen there appeared-- For Sir B . ' Hall's amendment... •-• 47 Against it ••• ••• ••• • .• 166 1 ,,_ _ Majority against it ••• ... —Hs sibr u It Muse immediately afterwards divided upon Col. "Ps am endment, wh e n th e r e appeared— Por the amendment ••• ... 46 A gainst it ... 166 • ... ..• •• . Majorit y aga i nst it ••• ••• —l2O EDUCATION. On the motion for bringing up the resolution on the O n th e 41r. au r se , e Ince he objected to a question of so much import- The ‘" e Drought on at that late hour. hou r I ,„ I:I ANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the Hous e - " g h P ° t so late (half-past ten o'clock), and if the th ee ,__(°) tented to proceeding with business at that hour 41.7,1!)(1 never be able to get on. kept eeriNLEY thought the conduct of the Govern. lion, 'l t % fair, considering the importancoof the ques keinhe't that advanced period of the night many Hon. had l e f t r t a k w he were likely to take part in the discussion be ue Roues, bronee,under the impression that it would not le -eus on ear, mi t , • rosterrto, kreuse4nSt'attanerniedst cries of "Go on," "Adjourn," petitions against the grant. when Ceti being d MANNERS rose to protest against the ques t. etng brought forward at that hour. It was taking th e Idouselisy_surprise. thaLtearddvJ. _ emu soloed period of I.I.LISSELL did not think it unreasonable at the session to ask to have the 41 mr.istroee,ded vvith at half-past ten o'clock. ADS TONE did not think that was exactly a fair etwatennaent of the ease. The question was whether t here Would et a general understanding that the measure tlveliatehheinweilliecist that hour. There was a question to put to the Right Hon. Gentleman t i l let Secretary for the Home Department, with respect to han. Ys ra adopted at the training school at Keener th,„ c , e did not find it laid down that candidates at eases'• s.hool for the office of schoolmasters. even in those of i lt . t which they were to be members of the Church Would land, would be examined on any subject which hitiosil.,tl:eessneily identify them with the Church. Per te giv"..ltight Hon. Gentleman would be good enough s:_e..o.sue some explanation upon that point? r ee Z be ki r GREY said that those candidates who were Itlpe r i B °f the Church of England would be under the the._ otendence of the principal, who would examine f e „,T e ih the formularies of the Church. But he had 11;4. rto observe, that the schoolmasters to whom the wo64ll°h• Gentleman referred would be appointed for With housesil and pri sons and would not be ident i f i e d 4 , 110 _, e Chur c h c f Eng l and in the same manner as the loiter astera in th e nat i onal schools. a few words from Mr. NEWDEGATE, Th e th,s CHAN CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said n""ne cours e w hi ch he was taking on that occasion treci se l y the course of which he had given notice, to it. a . hoped that no further objection would be made th lt. • W. MILES, who spoke in a very indistinct tone, thedproceeded to address the House on the subject of t.O ifferences at present prevailing between the Educe -4.‘,..11, C ommittee of the Privy Council and the National which ha The . Hon. Gentleman said that the system to a wished to call their attention had commenced j p the year 183 3, when the late Lord Spencer had pro. se d a Rrant o f 30 , 0 00 1 . for the purpose of education. t _ Th at grant bad been distributed by the Treasury be sweell the National Society and the British and Foreign • ° e,jety without any conditions which could excite the J t ?stollsy or the disapprobation of either of those socie 2es- But, in the year 1839, those famous Orders in vouncil had been issued on the subject of normal and 111041 schools which had since given rise to so much dis ctusaion. Sh ort l y after the appearance of those orders } l house e A rchbishop of Ca n t er b ury h a d move d i n t h e of Lords a resolution condemning them; and that resolution had been carried by a majority of 111. l a the year 1840, what h e m i g ht ca ll t h e concor dat had been entered into betwee n the National Society and the Committee of the Privy Council, providing at once for the connexion of the schools with the Established Church, and for a Government inspection of them. But, at the same time, a suspicion lurked among the founders of Church schools that the C ommittee of Privy Council were taking too much upon themselves, and that they were endeavouring to force improper conditions on the different schools. lie should next pass to the year 1846, Immediately after the accession of the present Government to power a great excitement h a d preva i led the Council Office, and minute after minut e had been issued. E ventually, i n t h e year 1847, the minutes with respect t o t h e managemen t o f schools had been made eernpulsory. Now, it was to o compulsory clauses that he mainly objected. It appeared that the managers of certain schools had refused to comply with the condi tions which had been so laid down. lie merely asked the Government to interfere as little a s possible with s ect or Merely i n matters of educat i on . He les ' and wished them t o re l y upon the fundamenta l p r inciples, allow the m anagers o f t h ose sc h oo ls so to conduct tthheieeirrsnehools th a t t h e e d uca ti on t o be communicated d might be in accordance with the tenets and $ principles of the respective churches to which the Mils belonged. One of the petitions which he had the nenour to present, and which was numerously and h r a spectead antesed, after complaining of many of t e h s ~t_reticas to which he referred, alluded to t e l I• Kneller-ball establishment, which it declared to be full of to the teaching of the pupil, and was the the ,dement of a system of latitudinarianism. When . ,q examined the schoolmasters of their unions !'e, found that but little attention had been paid to re- Vous instruction, that the highest knowledge in divi p, nay that t . was therein required was a good Biblical k l. l l7:e l , e _ d e and the knowledge of the geography . _ i t hi e re• VVhat did they find in a minute to whict Le Honourable Friend alluded relative to Kneller-hall? see student was Inuits tons was required to learn any religious fors lien and , he had a conscientious objec iTistere were trained was in a school where school trained entirely for the administration e o t-atiper sdueation in workhouses and criminal edu cation if youth in prison. There was no examination in t he ea een• theta' lams in the ordinances , or the prajer-book; " 4 in f • " el . tinctive me ' tit act, nothing whatever to show the is seh„ohza3t., of the Church of England. These ter ra o f ga Were bound upon the expiration of tie fo r a peri::(l,r,taPprentici,ship to serve in these t I school tat alle2ars !iieven Sears. lie could no: but third, ti stkeell Must 'i. tl°• communicatcd under such ciscum Produce the Worst results. Siuce the ques- tion had been discussed in the other House of Inaelie ment it had taken a different tarn. Although a Com mittee had been denied to the Noble Lord who made the rootion in the other House, yet the Noble Lord the Presi dent of the Council stet el that the time bed c erns when he thought an inquiry was necessery, and he only ob jected to it then benuse it would be impossible to come to a conclusion on the subject before the end of the p-esent ses•non of Parliament. As he (Mr. Miles) un derstood there would be no objection to an inquiry in the next year, as the petitioners stated the applicants were unable, from conscientious scruples, to participate in thoan a lvantages which it was evidently intended by the Legislature they should enjoy—after the decision that had been arrived et in another place, he did not think it neeassary to submit a motion upon the subjeet. Sir G. GREY said that the Hen. Member's impres sions as to what took place else wh re were quite correct. The Hon. Member had confined his objections priacipaily to two—namely, the manaerement clauses and the esta blishment of Keener Hone?. As to the first, it was the duty of tee Government to have amine security ftr the due management of all the schoela entrusted to their charge. At the sem: time, they did not feel themselves at hberty to interfere in any way with the religious in struction communicated, nor in any respect with the p inciples which regulated the Church schools. lion. Hon. Member was in error as t some on his statements. Tee constitution of many of the Church schools was considered to be most effective. was thought essential by the Committee of Council in 1843 to take security against the defective constitution of many of those schools. They prepared a report which they submitted to the National Society. A correspondence subiequeutly took place on the subject between the National Com mittee, the National Society, and the Committee of Council of Education. The Committee of Council had shown every dispositton to melt all the objections that had been urged to the details of those management clauses. They, however, felt it essential that the two elements should be combined, and that the laity should act together with the clergy in the management of these schools. At the same time they felt no appre hension whatever as to any infringement of the rights of the clergy to the exclusive charge of the religious edu cation in these schools. He believed that the Committee of Council were supported so far by a large body of the clergy who did not approve of the views of the Com mittee of the National Society. He wished to ask the Hon. Member whether he apprehended the mixture of the laity with the clergy to be dangerous to religion. He thought that the opinions entertained by a large portion of the members connected with the National So ciety upon this su eject were somewhat extravagant. The House should be aware that if the views of those oppo nents to the system were adeptnd they would be alto gether destructive to any wide-spread system of edaca tion, for the encouragement of which the Parliamentary grant hal b'en obtained. The test required bee the Committee of the National Society, and which was at once assented to by the Committee of Council, was, that this education should he placed under the management of members of the Church of England. In regard to Kneller-hall, he could not concur In the apprehensions expressed by the petitioners. It must be remembered that this establishment was, after all, but a normal school for the education of two classes of schoolmasters—the one class for prisons, the other for workhouses. These schoolmasters had not been exclusively taken from mem bers of the Church of England. In regard to prisons, for some years past they had experienced a difficulty in finding schoolmasters; they, however, at length suc ceeded in getting them from Glasgow and other places in Scotland, and these were now exercising their avoca tions in prisons in this country. These persons had never been brought up in the principles of the Church of England. The same might be said in regard to the schoolmasters for the workhouses. It never was made a general rule that these should be members of the Church of England; he therefore thought that the ob jections urged by the petitioners against this system were oat untenable. Lord J. MANNERS hopel the House would allow him to refer to one or two points of that question chro nologically. Ia 1839 there had been a discussion be tween the Church schools and the Committee of Privy Council. In 1840 there had been a concordat. It was not until 1847, when those clauses were rendered com pulsory on the schools in connexion with the Church, that any dissatisfaction had prevailed. In the spring of 1847 the Ministers bad proposed a great extension of the educational system of this country. That extension had been strongly resisted; and if thee had not been staunchly supported in that House by Churchmen they could not have carried out their proposition. There had been no intim:tem then that a compulsory enactment was to take place. Yet rumours having gone": abroad that sums such thing was iu contemplation, he had on; the 12th of July in that year of 1817 put a question to the Noble Lord at the head of the Government on the subject. The answer he had received had been to the eff ct that the assurance given to the late Primate of England would not be departed from. Yet it had been afterwards found that the minute of the Privy Council, by which those rules were to be made compulsory, bore date the 28th of June, 1847. He would ask what good it could be for the cause of civil and religious liberty that a lay man or a clergyman either should keep certain clauses for the government of their respective schools.—(Hear.) But the Right Honourable Gentleman s-aid a great number of the clergy aeproved of those clauses. Now he did not object to that; but what he did object to was this, that the same liberty was not given to those who did not approve of the clauses as to those who did. — (Hear.) It was said they might or might not take the money. Was the great question of education to be met in that way?—(Hear.) The petitioners in the present case did not pray far the abolition of the Committee of Council, all they asked was that they should not inter fere with the religious education of the people of this country. He would put it to the Liberal Members of that House whether it was an unreasonable demand which he made on behalf of those for whom he pleaded, that they should have freedom of instruction. They could not long successfully refuse such a requisition. He only asked them on the other side for that which they asked for themselves, and which they had always main tained as their just rights.—(Hear ) Mr. ADDERLEY said it would seem from what the Right Hon. Baronet the S; cretary of State for the Home Department had said, that the Church would wish to arrogate to itself the right of educating the people. He did not think that such was the feeling which prevailed. He thought it was very unjust that, if they wished for their own system of management, they should be de prived of any share in the public grant. After a few words from Mr. PLUMPTRE, Mr. P. WOOD said he did not think the Right Hon- Baronet had tie steed the National Society fairly in refer ring to the memorial to which he had alluded. That me morial would give rise to the impression that the great majority of the Churchmen were not in favour of granting any money to the Dissenters. Such was not the case: The public money was taken from all classes, and for matters of education they were bound to distribute it equally amongst all classes. It was not fair to read to the House, as the general opinion of the body, a memorial which had only emanated from a few. Neither was that the opinion of the National Society. There was no objection on the part of that society to lay interference; but they were of opinion that perfect freedom should be allowed to all parties. They had no objection to the clauses, but they asked that others should be permitted to adopt them or not, just . as they pleased. But the great difficulty hal arisen from the fact of the Committee of Privy Council having come to the resolution to oblige every one to adopt these resolutions; otherwise they were not to get a grant for their schools. That was what the Natioeal Society objected to; they could not agree to the clauses having been made compulsory. A great constitutional question was involved in that discussion. They were paying large sums of money every year into the hands of Government, and they would be larger still, and the Council could come to a decision, from which there was no appeal, as to the administration of those funds. It was not wise in such a case to lay down pedantic clauses. The Committee had now pupil-teachers and certified masters, and he hoped to see such in most of their schools. Those who contributed ome-third of the funds claimed to have the entire management of everything. That was what would not be submitted to. Lord J. RUSSELL thought that the Honourable and Learned Gentleman had not fairly represented the Privy Council when he said that they undertook to regulate everything. They had come to an agreement in 1840 with the archbishops and bishops, by which their grants were to be regulated. The inspectors were to be named in conjunction with the archbishops, and they were not to exercise their office without the consent of the bishops; their reports were to be sent to the bishops. The objec tion made to the Privy Council was not such as the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had stated it; but it was to the interference of the Privy Council in any way—it was maintained that any person who applied for a grant was not to be bound by any claims whatever. In schools that belong d to the Church of England, the religious educe tion was under the clerey and the bishop, and the bishop might exclude any books on religion of which he did not approve, or he might object to the master or mistress on the ground of unsound religious teaching.—(Hear, hear.) He then came to the question of secular teach ing.en The Committ ee consisted of laymen and clergy men, and a difference arose. If a difference arose as to secular teaching, then it was said the appeal should be to the bishops alone. ' Such a regulation the Committee with clergymen thought did not tend to the efficient management of the it was insisted to schools. Privy Council desired to sea laymen united t on the question of education; but when o c have purely religious teaching in a ex clusively out of therilown school, then suchouiicil declared that the parties desi rous to establishnschf u oo n l ds m . must pwroasvidheisfoorpiitneinxn place into thistwould gh m t a i de no unreasonable o the Privy Cowl ' proposi tions; and so he thcu be shown when an subject next year. He be. i i n i n ci e n c i d ry gr to eti ok t good bad been done by the grants; and for England itself itself, he thought it should be continued. the sake of the Church of E well that this system of education well question He believed Mr. R. PALMER , thought it wa were ehould now be distinctly understoo s d. ex cited by what was now going on. man Catholics and Dissenters were as mucheidnttehreesilted in this question as the members of the Church of E ng land. It was a que stion of liberty—the p ower of pa.: ties teaching the children under their care in that way in which their religious convictions might be secure. They should take care to do nothing which would pre vent or impede the voluntary efforts for education in this country. They should do n othing to interfere with schools especially intended for religious education.— (Hear.) They ought not to exclude schools that wer e under clerical management, To d.) this was, in his opi nion, iu the highest degt ee impolitic. They forced the National Society to open subscriptions for establishing clerical schools. The true rule was not to be exclusive. Mr. W. J. *FOX coincided in so much in what the lion. Member who had kat spoken, that it would save him from saying much on this question. He thought that freedom of action should he given to all labouring to promote education. 'lke best mode of administering educated. Mr. lIii:NLEY, who rose amid cries of " Divide," said, vault the public complained of, reel justly com plained oe, was the departure from the principle laid down in 1839 and 1840. Tbe present mode pressed with great hardship on the smaller agricultural parishes. — (Divide.) He was glad that the Government had con sented to the question undergoing a searching investi gation, and was sorry that the Noble Lord at the head of the G wernitleat should have expressed his regret that the Church of England received three-fourths of the grant.—(Divide.) At that late hour he should not trouble the House with any further observations. The vote was then agreed to. The amendments to the Charitable Trusts Bill were considered and agreed tn. The second reading of the Oath of Abjuration (Jea-s) Bill was fixed for Thursday, the 18th July. On the motion of L ird J. RUSSELL, the Lord-Lieu tenancy Abolition (Ireland) Bill was ordered to be com mitted that day three months. A similar motion was agreed to with respect to the second reading of the Wools and Forests Bill. Lord DUNCAN protected against the mode in which the Bill lied been proceeded with. He had not moved for the re-appointment of the Committee on the subject on the understanding that the Government would pro ceed widi the Bill. He should take an early oppor tunity of calling the attention of the House to the vesiion. Lord J. RUSSELL said he had till lately intended to proceed with the Bill, but the length of the debates on other questions, and the number of amendments on this, gave no hope of the Bill being passed this session. HOME-MADE srimrs IN BOND BILL. Lord NAAS having moved the second reading of this Bill, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he felt it to hi his duty to oppose this Bill on a former occasion, and he would, therefore, on the present occasion, take the sense of the House on the second reading, as he considered that it was his duty to express his opinions at present more fully than he had done on a former oc casion, as he considered that the claim of the Scotch and Irish distillers was anything but just. He must say that he did not think that the Scotch and Irish dis tillers hail any claim to pay a less duty than they were now paying. They had, in fact, a great deal of indul gence extended to them in their spirits being allowed to remain in bond, without any pressure on the part of Government for the pat men: of the duty. He felt that it was extremely disagreeable that one system should prevail in Ireland and Scotland and another in England. The duty was now uniform.—(Hear, bear.) it was ad mitted in evidence before a C untnittee that it was im possible to charge the duty on spirits in England in any other manner, and that was the statement of the greatest distillers of this country. It the present system of levy ing the duty was departed from to suit the Scotch and Irish distillers, the greatest inconvenience would be the result, and he therefore thought it would be unfair to do that in regard to those two countries which would he prejudicial to the interests of the distillers of England. He was enabled to state that the English distillers had made the strongest representations to him that such a course, if acted upon, would be extremely unjust to them. He had stated before that there was not the slightest similiarity between the two cases. The ground on which the Bill rested was, that the introduc tion of colonial spirits had injured the home producer, and that it theref .re operated prejudicially to his inte rests. If this were so, the proper course would have been to have brought forward a motion either to re move the duty on home spirit, or to raise the differen tial duty on rum. But this was not done. In order to show that the introduction of colonial spirits had not had the effect suggested by the promoters of this Bill, he would read the following statistics :—ln 1817, the quantity of rum consumed in Ireland and Scotland was 558,000 gallons. In 1849, the quantity was 432,000 gall•ins; showing a reduction in the consumption of this article, of 126,000 gallons--a fact which fully premised that no injury was produced to the home producer by the introduction of colonial spirits—and this fact was fully established by the fact that while the quantity of home-made spirits consumed in this country, in 1847, was 12,230,000 gallons, it rose in 1849 to 13,908,000 — thus showing an increase in the consumption of 1,678,000.—(Hear, hear.) Upon these grounds, there fore, he moved that the Bill be read a second tune that day six months. Mr. WYLD moved that the debate be adjournel. Mr. FORBES MACKENZIE opposed the adjourn- ment. After a few words from Mr. Roche. Mr. Bass, and Mr. Reynolds, who c omplained of this effort on the part of the Hon. Member for Bodmin to deprive the sup port rs of the measure of a discussion on it, the House divided, when there appeared— For the adjournment ... 95 Against it ... . . ... 135 Majority 40 This result was loudly cheered by the supportars of the Bill. On entering the gallery we found Mr. F. MAULE contending that this Bill was a dis tiller's measure, and the feeling of the people of Scot land was against it. The tendency of the Bill was to make whisky cheap, and the effect of this was to fill their gaols and workhouses with thieves and paupers. He hoped the returning good sense of the House would induce them to reject the measure. Lord J. RUSSELL said, it was quite evident that the last diviiion proved that the feeling of the House was in favour of that stage of the measure. He would not further oppose it then. At the same time he begged to soy that the Government had still the same ojection to the measure, and that they would opposa it in a future stage.—(Hear. hear.) The Btll was then read a second time, and Lard NAAS moved the committal of tee 8.11 for to morrow (this day.) The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter to Two o'clock. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 4. Their Lordships' assembled at Five o'clock. Toe Earl of LONSDALE presented a petition agains the Metropolitan Interments Bill. JUDGMENTS (IRELAND) BILL. This Biil was read a third time and passed. POLICE IMPROVEMENT (SCOTLAND) BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. COURT OF SESSION (SCOTLAND) BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. SIR ROBERT PEEL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, after laying on the table certain papers relating to the subject of education , said, I will now, with the permission of your Lordships. take the liberty of asking the attention of your Lord ships for a few moments to a subject which I am sure is present to the minds of all of us.—(Hear, hear.) I have to request your Lordships' attention while ] for a few moments diverge from the usual course of your Lordships' proceedings.—(Hear, hear.) It is quite true that if we look around this House we do not per ceive any loss that we have recently suffered, there is Do important personage abeent from his place here, there i no great blank iu this place. But we are all aware of, and we all deeply deplore, a great and a lamentable loss which has occurred in another Assembly with which we are connected with many and most intimate tiei—(Flear. hear)—ties and relations both political and per sonal so numerous that we may be said to breathe the same atmosphere. To that Assembly there has befallen a great calamity, a great personal loss which has been deeply felt by that Assembly.—(Hear.) And extraordinary, indeed, would it be if the deep voice of sorrow which has been heard throughout that Assembly did not find any echo here.—(Hear, hear.) This is not the time to sit in judgment on the political conduct or the public actions of any great statesman who has at the present moment been suddenly withdraws; from us.—(Bear, hear.) Posterity alone can judge of these, and to that judgment they will be submitted, and those who sit in judgment on them will be beta) qualified, from their distance from the scene of action. to contemplate them calmly and without prejudice. But., my Lords, we are called upon to pay our tribute of respect to the memory of a great public man, who has been suddenly called from us, and to whose unwearied labours in the public service we have all of us been witnesses. We are called upon to add our ex pression of sympathy to that public expression ot sympathy which, unasked, unsolicited, unthought of emanating from all classes of society, has been attending —I wish I could add cheering—the dying moments of the public statesman.—(Hear, hear.) That feeling. unmixed by any thought of political opinion, is I am sure entertained by your Lordships no less deeply than by every other class of the community.—(Hear, hear.) I can only say that it has been my fortune, in consequence of my prolonged life, to assist at the commencement and at the development of the career of him whom I must now unfortunately call the late Sir Robert Peel. I witnessed his first exertions, I witnessed the whole of that career that has prematurely ended for more than forty years, and I can bear witness that that career has been distinguished by an unmitigated zeal, exclusively devoted to public objects, and by a life devoted to the service of the state.—(Hear, hear.) And I am sure that your Lordships will join with me in an expression of sympathy and condolence which I believe is felt by all the people of this country.—(Rear, hear.) Lord STANLEY then rose and said—Great as un doubtedly is the public loss which has been sustained, and deep and universal as is the sympathy which has been manifested by the whole country at the calamity which has just befallen us, I had not anticipated that in this House, of which Sir R. Peel was not a member, the Noble Marquis would have felt it necessary to have called for any public expression of feeling, or even have adverted, as he has done, to that lamentable occurrence. But as the Noble Marquis has adverted to the case, I must not deprive myse.f of the melancholy gratification of stating how fully and entirely I participate and sym pathise in those sentiments which have been so feelingly expressed by the Noble Marquis.—(liear, hear.) The Noble Marquis has truly said that this is no time to cri ticise the public acts of a public man, snatched from his country in the prime of life, and at a period when it might reasonably have been expected that many years yet re mttosanihnard7to him for devoting to the public service those great abilities, that uefleiching zeal, that unwearied diligueenacre, hear.) which wer elt haalswbaeyesna my t y h efosretruvni fortune e a o t f s h om is e co p u e n ri t o r d y s . been opposed to, and at others to have been itt. e e colleague —the last tour yitha ra: h bo u i m ehn b i ! s e m lyci deep llelaguree—g regret the that late du r i S n i g r fe blicthat thaty. have been separated sure, difference of opinion—con fsre7ntliloimus,byl a a p nl c o ‘ l ' i u e re " , both sides—on important 'net- It with equally deep regret mat ters of knowpublic the very last hour of his life; i o t p .t i s n a io s n a p ti r li e fw va t ted u to ebuotf PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. (From the Votes and Proceed:;los of Me House of COMMOSIS THURSDAY, JULY 4. EXHIBITION OF Mt. Motion made, and Questir , n proposed," That the Report re specting the proposed Exhibition in Hyde-parkin IESI besub milted to a Select Committee of this House, for the purpose of examination and due consideration of the same; and that the report of the said Select Committee be laid upon the Table of the House, and that the sanction by this House be given to such Report before any further prouedings on the part of the Commissioners, with regard to the said Exhibi tion, shall be proceeded with or adopted by them :" Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words " an humble Address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to give di , ecti,ns that no Buildings may be erected in Hyde-park for the purpoge..4 of the Exhibition intended to be held in this Country in the year 185 ," instead thereof: Question put, "'1 hat the words propoSed to be left out stand part of the Question." Ile House divided : MAJORITY-AYES, 166. Adair, It. A. Shafto Glyn, G. C. Morison, Sir W. Arkwright, George Greenall, Gilbert Morris, David Baine;, M. T. Greene. John :SI ulgrave, Earl Baring. Sir F. Grey, Sir G. O'Brien, Jobs B u ing, Thomas G. ey, R. W. O'Flaherty, Anthony Barnard, E. G. G osvenor, Lord It. Ord, William Bass, M. T. Hamilton, Geo. A. Paget, Lord A. Bellew, It. M. Hardeastle, J. A. Palinerston, VIII. Berkeley, Admiral Harris, Richard Parker, John Berkeley, Henry F. nestle, Alexander Patten, W. Booth, Sir R. G. Bastie, Archibald Pecliell, Sir G. Boyd, John Ilatchell, John Pet°, Samuel Boyle, Colonel Hawes, B. Plutnptre, J. P. Bramston, T. W. Hayter, W. G. Price, Sir R. Bremridge, Richard Ileadlam, T. E. - Pusey, Philip Bright, John Henry, Alexander Ricardo, Osman Brotherton, Joseph Herbert, 11. A. Rice, E. It. Bruce, C. L. C. Hill, Lord M. Rich, Henry Busfeild, W. liobhouse, Sir John Robartes, T. J. Carter, J. B. Hobhouse, T. B. Roche, E. B. Chaplin, W. J. Hodges, T. L. Romilly, Colonel Clay, Sir W. Hogg, Sir J. W. Romilly, Sir John Clay, James Ilope,:li. T. Russell, Lord John Clive, li. B. Howard, Lord E. Russell, F. C. Cobden, Richard Howard, C W. G. Sanders, George Cockburn, Alex. Hume, Joseph Seymour, Lord Colebrooke, Sir T. Ilumphery, Ald. Sheil, Cowper, W. F. Hutt, William Simeon, John Craig, Sir W. G. Inglis, Sir It. Blaney, Robert A. Crawford, W. S. Jackson, William Smith, Vernon Cubitt, William Jerilyn, Earl Smith, J. Benjamin Currie, Itaikes Jervis, Sir John Somerville, Sir W. Denison, J. E. Keating, Robert , Spearman, 11. J. D'Eynconrt, T. Keogh, William Spooner, Richard Duff, James Kershaw, James Stanton, W 11. Duke, Sir James King, P. J. Stephenson, Robert- Dunc2.n, Viscount Labouchere, Henry Strickland Sir IG. Duncan, George Lacy, Henry C. Stuart, Lord A -, Duncombe,;Thomas Langston, J. H. Stuart, Lord J. Duncult, John Lascelles, W. S. Tancred, Henry W. Dundas, Admiral Lewis, G. C. Thompson, Colonel Dundas, Sir D. Lindsa3, Zion. Col. Thompson, George Do Pre, C. G. Lockhart, W. Thompson, Alderman Ebrington, Viscount Lushington, Charles Thornely, T. Ellis, John Mackie, John Tufhell, Henry Elliot, John E. 3PTaggart, Sir J. Walmsley, Sir J. Evans, John Meagher, Thomas .Wawn, J. T. Evelyn, William J. Mangles, It. D. Westhead, J. B. Ewart„William Martin, C. W. Wllson, James Fagan, William Matheson, Colonel Wood, Sir Charles Ferguson, Sir R. Matheson. Alex. . Wood, W. P. Foley, J. 11. Maule, Fox Wyld, James Forster, Matthew Melgund, Viscount Fox, Richard M. Miles, P. W. Fox, W. J. Miles, William Freestun, Colonel Moffatt, George Gladstone, W. E. Monsen, William TELLERS. Sibthorp, Colonel Campbell, W. F. MINORITY-NOES, 47. Adair, Hugh E. Fox, S. L. Manners, Lord J. Ansley, Thomas Gaskell J. M. Mußings, J. R. Archdall, Captain Gooch, E. S. Newdegate, C. N. Bateson, Thomas Granby, Marquis of O'Connor, Feargus Best, John Henley, J. W. Ogle, S. C. Broadley, 11. 1111dyard, R. C. Raphael, Alexander Brown, Humphrey Ilildyard, T. B. T. Richards, Richard Buller, Sir J. Y. Hill, Lord E. Rushout, Captain Burghley, Lord Hope, Alexander Stanford, J. F. Burke, sir Thomas Hothain, Lord Stuart, J. Cabbell, B. B. Hudson, G. Vyse, R. H. Compton, 11. C. Knightley, Sir C. Willoughby, Sir H. Cotton, W. 11. Knox, Colonel Wynn, Sir W. Dodd, George Lascelles, E Duff, G. S. Lennox, Lord G. H Forbes, W. Lygon, General Fortescue, J. W. Manners, Lord C. TELLER'S. Hall, Sir B. Alcock, Thomas Main Question put, " That the Report respecting the pro posed Exhibition in Hyde-park in :85l be submitted to a Select Committee of this House, for the purpose of examina tion and due consideration of the same; and that the Report of the said Select Committee be laid upon the Table of the House, and that the sanction by this House be given to such Report before any further proceedings on the part of the Commissioneri, with regard to the said Exhibition, shall be proceeded with or adopted by them " The House divided: _ MINORITY-AYES, 46. Anstey, T C. Fox, S. L. Manners, Lord J. Archdall, Captain Gaskell, J. M. Morris, David Arkwright, George Gooch, E. S. Mullings, J. R. Ilatesozi, T. Granby, Marquis of Newdegate, C. N. P.remridge, Richard Greene, John O'Connor. Feargue Best, John Hildyarl, It. C. Raphael, Alexander Broadley, Henry Hildyard, T. 11. T. Richards,;Richard Brown, 11. Hill, Lord E. Rushout, Captain Buller, Sir J. Y. Hope, A. Stanford, J. F. Burghley - , Lord Hallam:Lord Stuart, J. Burke, Sir T. J. Hudson, George Vyse, 11. R. H. Cabbell, 8.8. Kuightley, Sir C. Wpm, Sir IV. Compton, 11. C. Knox, Colonel Cotton, W. H. Lascelles, E. Dodd, G. Lockhart, W. Evelyn, W. - J. Lygon,;General Forbes, William Manners, Lord C. TELLIES. Slbthorp, Colonel Alcock, Thomas MAJORITY—NOES, 166. Glyn, George Carr /dulgrave, Earl Greenall, Gilbert O'Brien, J. Grey, Sir G. O'Flaherty, Anthony Grey, li. W. og,le, S. C. Grosvenor, Lord R. Ord, W. Hall, Sir B. Paget, Lord A. Hamilton, G. A. Palmerston, Viscount Hardcastle, J. A. Parker, John Harris, Richard Patten, J. W. Hastie, Alexander Pechell, Sir G. llatchell, John Pete, Samuel M. Hawes, Benj. Plumptre, J. P. Hayter, W. G. Price, Sir R. Headlatn, T. E. l'usey, P. Henley, J. W. Ricardo, Osman Henry, Alexander Rice, E. R. Herbert, 11. A. Rich, Henry Hobhouse, Sir John Robartes, T. J. A. Hobhouse, T. B. Roche, E. B. Hodges, T. L. Rol:Wily, Colonel Ilogg, Sir J. Romilly, Sir John Hope, Henry T. Russell, Lord J. Howard, Lord E. Russell, I'. C. Howard, C. W. Sanders, George Ilume, Joseph Seymour, Lord Humphery, Aid. Shell, R. L. Hutt, William Simeon, John Inglis, Sir R. 11. SlaneY , R. A. Jackson, William Smith, Vernon Jermyn, Earl Smith, John B. Jervis, Sr John Somerville, Sir W. Keating, Robert Spearman, Henry Keogh, William Spooner, Richard Kershaw, James Stanton, W. 11. King, P. J. S ephenson, Relvert Labouchere, Henry Strickland, Sir G. Lacy,-11. C. Stuart, Lord Dudley Langston, J. 11. Stuart, Lord J. Lascelles, W. S. Tancred, H. W. Lennox, Lord 11 G. Thompson, Colonel Lewis, G. C. Thompson, George Lindsay, Colonel Thompson, Aid. Lushington, C. Thornely, Thomas Mackie, John Turtlell, H. M' raggart, Sir J. NA almsley, Sir J. Meagher, Thomas Wawn, J. T. Mangles, R. D. Westhead, J. P. Martin, C. W. Willoughby, Sir 11. Matheson, A. Wilson, James Matheson, Colonel Wood, Sir Charles Manic, Fox Wood, W. P. Melgund, Viscount Wyld, James Miles, P. W. S. Miles, W. Moffatt, George Monsell, William Morison, Sir W. Adair, Hugh E. Adair, R. Shaft° Baines, M. T. Baring, Sir F. T. Baring, Thomas Barnard, Edward G. Bass, Thomas Berkeley, Admiral Ber;:eley, iI. F. Booth, Sir R. G. Boyd, John Boyle, Colon& Bramston, T. W. Bright, John Brotherton, J. Bruce, C. L. C. Busfeild, W. Campbell, W. F. Carter, J. B. Chaplin, W. J. Clay, sii W. Clay, James Clive, Cobden, Richard Coca buru, Alex. Colebrooke, Sir T. Cowper, W. F. Craig, Sir W. G. Crawford, W. S. Cubitt, William Currie, Itaikes Denison, J. E. D'Eyncourt, C. T. Duff, George Duff, James Duke, Sir James Duncan, Lord Duncan, C-eorge Duncombe, T. Duneuft, John Dundas, Admiral Dundas, Sir David Du Pre, C. G. Ebringtolt, Lord Ellis, John Elliot, John Evans, J. E wart, William Fagan, William Ferguson, Sir R. Foley, John 11. Forster, Mathew Forteseue, J. W. Fox, It. 31. Fox, W. J. Freestnn, Colonel Gladstone, W. E. TELLERS. fill, Lord blarone Bellew, U. M. COURT CIRCULAR. The Queen and Prince Albert, with the Prince of Prussia, went yesterday afternoon in en open barouche and four to Dulwich College, and inspected the gal lery of paintings. Colonel Buckley and Lieut.- Colonel the ll,n. Alexander G.,rdon, the Equerries in Waiting, were in attendance. His Royal Highness Prince Albert, attended by Lieut.-Colonel the Hon. A. Gordon, visited their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Cam bridge yesterday, at Cambridge House, and her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester, at Gloucester House. Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, the Princess Alice, and the younger members of the Royal Family, took their usual walking and riding exercise yesterday. A deputation, consisting of Mr. J. Grundy (soli citor), Mr. C. W. Eborall (manager), and Mr. Poring (engineer), on behalf of the East Lancashire Railway Company ; and Messrs. E. Shonnoch and J. Eccles (directors), Mr. Perfect (solicitor), and Mr. Flanagan (engineer), on behalf of the Bulton, Blackburn, and Clitheroe Railway Company, had an interview with the Commissioners of Railways on Wednesday, at the office of the Board of Trade. The Right Rev. Dr. Brady had an interview with Earl Grey yesterday. Mr. Tidd Pratt had an interview with the Chan cellor of the Exchequer yesterday, Mr. John Wood, Chairman of the Board of luland Revenue, had an interview with the Right Hon. Baronet on Wednes day, at his official residence in Downing-street. Two Sisters of Mercy, from Western Australia, had an interview with Earl Grey yesterday, at the Colonial-office. Mr. Gordon had also an interview with the Noble Earl yesterday. The Ecclesiastical Commissioners for England had a general meeting yesterday. The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council sat yesterday, and heard an appeal from the High Court of Admiralty, relative to the Lady Anne. The Lords present were Mr. Baron Parke, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Cornwall, and Sir Edward Ryan. THE NEW NOVEL, " ADELAIDE LINDSAY," edited by the author of " Emilia Wyndham," &c., is published tbis day by Mr. Colburn, and may be had at all the libraries. Also, now ready —2, Mornings at Matlock, by R. Shelton Mackenzie, D.C.L. ; 3, Anne Dysart or, the Scotch Mi nister's Daughter; 4, La Vendee, an Historical Romance, by Anthony Trollops, Esq.; 5, The Story of a Lien of fe s s , t h ort l i or, Sin and Sorrow ; 6, Reginald Hastings, Romance, by Eliot Warburton, Esq., seco.n.daa_ne_diotilsoeny;, b7y, Freston Tower; or, the Early Days of Car:di I w the Rev. R. Cobbold, M.A. ;8, Second sep.eas t_hebrDayiscainpd line of Life, comprising the stories.fof of _ iwow Susan Greville ;9, Passages in the Li e Mrs. Maitland, of Sunny-side, second edition. Nature never sends a great man into the world, without confiding the secret to another soul.—Eliza Cook's Journal. EXTRAORDINARY TRANSPOSITION IN MUSIC.—At one of the principal churches of Pesth, recently, the perform ance of The Messiah was appointed for a charitable purpose. On the morning of the day appointed for the oratorio to be executed, it was discovered that the organ had been tuned exactly a semitone too high. This, as might naturally be supposed, would greatly distress some of the principal singers, but how it was to be remeriied no one could tell until the organi.t, a 'Bohemian by birth, suggested thee he should play the whole one half note lower, and ii.hich he actually effected. Only th oroug h musicians can appreciate the difficulty of such a task, and the surpriso 'was still greater at the facility of the performance. — La Monde Musicale.