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I: he priD . with '- , L ior be cheq' d t he e%te nde 0i y ere intru _A uti ,I s c cic ., ended c etcd d c ook I is le, th ese tr t le coll . rou Id ha •- he of ,iOl3 l ot of t he ie tt ced mey t jo' b Whe d ieb i ll ts id, 111 be P,, r ed rec° v " t he oot PsY ra )i ii t of of. re l e tip , tdge l' 191‘ 1 0 ; ch hti g from ." tood to gr 2 ane e an d or itioti°l,o ostcb, r • L ion °" 0 ibiched negst-iI r° e tiori o f )0 e a‘i )5141°'• ta te( tOr n, w et tii 131 1113 'if itie /1 0 0) Ob c •rs us o tow - b co to r e fle P 110' 0 0 t 0 1 f 'me n he ye 0 . bjeCt 1.- ro 161 j. 131 f °' po • 4 OP('' upon the doors of the town-hail, the principal churches and chapels, and to insert it in the newspapers that circulated in the neighbourhood, for a vote to be taken on the subject. He is then to appoint at least ten days forward for taking the opinion of the inhabitants on the subject. L will then require the assent of two thirds of the rate-payers to justify the Act being put into operation. He trusted that the Bill, as it was now framed, would meet the objections of his opponents. The question having beers put, Colonel SIBTUORP said, although this Bill might be considered to be a new one, as compared with the former, he felt bound to continue his opposition to it. These wore not times for spending money in the way proposed, when it might be much better expended in providing food and employment fur the people. When they had done this, it wee time enough to provide amusements and recreation of the character to be provided for by this Bill. Instead of endeavouring to afford them industrious and profitable employment, he supposed they would be thinking of supplying the working classes with quoits, peg -tops, end foot-ball. They should first teach the people to read and write. What would be the use of these libraries to those who could not read or write? He supposed that the lion. Member and his friends would soon be thinking of introducing the pet formances of Punch for the amusement of the people. —(Laughter.) The Bill was wholly uncalled for. There were no petitions presented in favour of it. Instead of calling upon the unfortunate rate-payers to pay for these amusements, he for one would be more disposed to put his hand in his pocket in order to enable them to enjoy them altogether free from taxation. The Hon. and Gallant Member concluded by moving that the further progress of the measure be postponed to that day six months. Mr. HUME thought the Honourable and Gallant Member could not have read this Bill, or he would not have opposed the measure on the grounds he had stated. The Bill did not propose to tax the people for these purposes without their full consent. He agreed with the Honourable and Gallant Member that it would be highly improper to pass a Bill at the pre sent time to increase the taxation of the people. If the Hen. and Gallant Member had road the Bill with atten tion, he was sure he would be as forward as any one in support of it. Colonel SIBTHORP—Oh no. Mr. HUME thought that if this Bill passed the Hon. and Gallant Member would be the first to put his hand in his pocket for the purpose of advancing 200/. for tee establishment of one of these institutions in Lincoln. There was no part of the civilised world in which these institutions were more wanted than in England. In the United States there were 10,000 such institutions. What an advantage it would be for the poorer classes of this country to have these libraries to resort to, in stead of public-houses. He hoped that the Hon. and Gallant Member would not persevere in his opposition to this measure. Alderman SIDNEY said there wore great discrepan cies in the Bill. He did not think that these institutions would be as much encouraged as the Hon. Member op posite supposed. They had a library and museum in London which was very little used by the people. There was no provision in the Bill for retracing their steps if the people had reason to regret the establishment of the then institutions. This, though nominally a small tax upon the people, would become most serious in the course of years. Mr. HEALD thought it would be a great injustice to the Right Hon. Member for Damfries if, after the dis position he had shown to improve the Bill and to render it as perfect as possible, they should object to its going into Committee. Colonel CHATTERTON asked whether it was in tended to make it applicable to Ireland? Mr. EWART said it did not apply to Ireland, but he understood that an lion. Member had given notice of his intention to introduce it into Ireland. Mr. STANFORD did not object to the principle of the Bill; but there was a great confusion in some of the Clauses between the titles of the burgesses and rate payers. There was a great difference between taking the sense of the burgesses and the sense of the rate payers. The former did not amount to one-fifth of the latter. There was no provision in the present measure for the prevention of a continued agitation of this sub ject, notwithstanding that it had been repeatedly de cided by the majority of the rate-payers that no such institutio❑ should be established. This was a departure from the principle of the former measure, which pro posed to enact, that if the question were once decided it should not be again moved for a period of three years. As far as Reading was concerned they had two literary institutions, and a library containing about 3,000 or 4,000 volume', which was accessible to all upon payment of a very small subscription. For these reasons he would vote fir the amendment, although as anxious for diffus ing information amongst the people as the Hon. Member for Dumfries. Mr. KERSHAW supported the Bill, on the ground that the people would derive great benefit from its adop tion. He was prepared to support it in every stage. Mr. SPOONER did not consider it worth while to divide the House on this question. The sense of the }louse had born already twice declared in favour of the Principle of this Bill. Mr. FORBES said if his lion. and Gallant Friend divided the House he would feel it to be his duty to sep port him He was opposed to the principle of the Bill, avid he must say that the details were most objectionable. Mr. .W YLD was surprised that the agriculturists shoull oppose this Bill, as it was well known that wherever museums and public libraries ware established, and be came acces,ible to the poorer clauses, public honeys ceased to be frequented. As those institutions were diffused crime diminished. 'I he house divided, when there appeared— For the amendment ... Against it ... 87 Majority ••• 660 ••• —66 The House resolved itself into Committee, Mr. BER NAL in the chair. Upon clause 1 being proposed, Mr. BROTHEBTON moved that the Chairman re- Port progress, in order that the discussion on the Mar riages Bill be proseded with. The Committee divided, when there appeared— Fer the motion... ... 68 Against it ... ... 40 Majority —2S The Chairman reported progress. EWART moved that the Bill be committed on 1 , Wednesday next. Mr. LAW moved as an amendment that the Bill be Committed that day six months. I Mr. HUME considered this a most ungracious pro. seeding with respect to a Bill which had met with the aPproval of the Home. Mr. LAW said the Lion. Gentleman had himself voted to stop the progress of the Bill.—(Hear, and laughter.) Sir H. VERNEY, as one of the supporters of the Bill, *Sid he had a right to complain of those who had charge of the Bill, end who should have proceeded with it. The House then divided. The numbers were— For the amendment B5 Against it 47 Majority against the amendment —3B It was then agreed that the Bill should bo re•cona ,4 witted on Wednesday next. MARRIAGES BILL. On the order of the day being read for going into , ‘'otninittee on this Bill petitions in its favour were pre- Settled,, by Mr. Peto. Mr. J. Ellis, Mr. Harris, Mr. S. „ r vv ortley, and Mr. C. Pearson ; and ag a inst it by Mr. B. st , o r .. The House then went into Committee, and on clause being proposed, Mr. R. PALMER rose, and proposed as an amend• !lent the insertion in line 18 of the following words: — Nor shall any member of either of the said Churches (Of England and Scotland) who may hereafter contract ar m , such marriage, be exempted, by virtue of this Act, y, tra m any such spiritual or ecclesiastical censure or pu , lahraent ; nor shall any sentence for restitution o f con "gal rights be pronounced by any ecclesiastical court in ke Y suit or proceeding between the parties to any such' t arriagP." The Hon. and Learned Gentleman said that t : La Y had now this Bill presented to them in an entirely b e w point of view, and consistently with a''viee which e;.;r l been given by his Rie6t Honourable Friend (Mr. ortley), and which bad been published in the Nuncon• newspaper, a considerable endeavour had been rtcle with a certain degree of success to obtain a l trge amount of e" peculiar Dissentine• support" fur t ole measure. Accordingly, when his Right Honour. Friend applied for leave to bring in his Bill et 11,, e Commencement of the session, he took new eround. u,u , tead of proposing it as a me,isurn equally and Zrt,ifferently applicable to all hey Mejesty s subjects, tr l with reference to the wants and circumstances th all classes, he now, for the first time, stated 14 ' 4 he proposed it in a great treasure on the Oolld of the conscientious opinions which were en rtaint by Dissenting Indies, and expressly said that he tie eetno -to the conclusion that it would be wise to t...nit the p rov i s i on t o w hi c h o bj ec ti o n had been made, 1: 41 to leave the rules and discipline of the Church per ; tt!lly untouched by the Bill. The amendment he (.Mr. N'tler) had to propose was intended to carry the Rieht a ourable Gentleman's profession into effect, fur tin , tit il i e4 ionably the clause proposed by the Right Honour ' I.„ ; :„Gentleman would be ineffectual for that purpore. eq. ''ing at the Bill as it now stood he found that this ta 4st ituted all the difference between it and the measure th St year. His Right Honourable Friend had adopted Ith ; 4 ,tnendments of which he (Mr. Palmer) gave notice , t k ieo were to the effect that nothing in the Act con ued should be construed in any court to alter or affect Itg, doctrine of either of the Established Churches, vet the degrees of consanguinity and affinity within H te e h Marriages were prohibited were settled and de -14144,', But beyond all doubt this did no more than say 41 ° , 0 141 ,0 abstract doctrine of the Church upon the subject not be taken to be altered. The next clause said ae th Oo clergy man or officer of either Church should be i ll °r t'ed to solemnize any marriage of this description. Mat, too, was of some value, but his Right Honour lie: Friend had qualified the amendment contained in le lll (Mr. Palmer's): provision by the addition of an ;le e ° l rt aot proviso at the end of the clause, which found aw ls in his (Mr. Palmer's) proposition or the Bill of th Ye arandwhich • proviso was in these terms—that of tP t rties to any such marriage should not by reason tei t ''. l 4 Bill be subjected to censure or punishment by t iro anY ecclesiastical court; so that the administra kt4Prer of the Church had not been saved. The tiv, a "a:mA which he (Mr. Palmer) now proposed would ,C,?ee t e i tf eet to the principle asserted by the Right Hon. ; Ilin. e . ttl an and leave the rules and discipline of the eee a entirely untouched, and as to the Church of 1 314:, 113 d, leave the doctrine and discipline of that Church N eti 6 d and inviolate. By the clause his Right Hon. 4 t ared . proposed the discipline of the Church was not ti l l t ose except with respect to clergymen solemnizing oseiheularriages. With respect to all other cases of „, 4 ci e e t ' a of the Church contracting those marriages, the c trtgethe (l the Church would be interfered with and t te% destroyed by the operation of the Bill. If the I htlp t i 5401 21 d not adopt his amendment they would t i ts Church ?outs to decide in ovits for the fq ~, 1 u THE SUN, LONDON, restitution of cc ijugal rights, that persons should live together whose marriage the Church eon• sidered incestuous. One anomaly in the Bid, as it stood, was, that any clergyman might con tract such a marriage though he might not Le compelled to solemnize it between other parties. A clergyman could not refuse to administer the rites of the Church to parties whose marriage the Church deemed incestuous, if the present clause were agreed to. Nay more, the Church, both of England and Scotland, must consider persons contracting such marriage as disquali fied for receiving the sfeAnmunion. By the 109th canon it was declared that the communion should not be ad ministered to persons guilty of incest ; and by another canon, the 99th, marriages within the prohibited degrees were declared to be incestuous. One objection to the clause might be that it would introduce an anomalous distinction between members of the Church of England anti the members of other religions bodies. But such an anomaly was as nothing compared to those in the Bill. Another objection might be, that the amendment would induce parties contracting such marriages to become Dissenters. For his own part, he should say let such parties become Dissenters rather than continue professed members of a Church which considered weal as guilty of incest.—(Hear.) He thought they ought to go as far as they could to relieve members of the Cnurch of England and of the Church of Scotland who had contracted such marriages from the effistes which would follow the ope ration of the Bill as it stood. It ought not to be tur gotten that the Bill was one which would operate on the whole community. There could be no greater fallacy than to argue that the Bill would only affect the parties who contracted these rnarriages.—(Hear.) It would affect all those who did not wish to contract such mar riages in the altered feelings and relations it would pro duce towards sisters-in-law. It was on these grounds that be now begged to propose the amendment of which he had given notice.—(Cheers.) The question having been put, Mr. S. WORTLEY said he would not follow his Hon. and Learned Friend into the argument which be had stated so ably to the Committee. He thought his Hon. and Learned Friend mistaken as to the legal effect of the Bill. With regard to the amendment, he regarded it as one for the extension of ecclesiastical authority.— (Hear.) He had never dreamt that his Hon. and Learned Friend would propose an amendment, the effect of which would be to sanction a marriage of this kind with reference to civil purposes, and at the same time ex pose the parties to the censure of the Church courts, and to doing penance in a white sheet. He thought his Learned Friend had tailed to show that the clergy were not at perfect liberty to exercise their discretion in the solemnization of marriages if it were not against their consciences. The whole jurisdiction of the ecclesiasti cal courts was for spiritual purposes; the present Act of Parliament was solely for temporal purposes. The CHAIRMAN asked whether it was proposed to divide ? Mr. R. PALMER intimated his intention to take the sense of the House.—(Loud cries cf " Divide.") Sir R. H. INGLIS rose amid much noise and cries of " Divide," and " Withdraw." He maintained that his Hon. and Learned Friend did not propose to increase the ecclesiastical authority, but merely to leave it where it stood at the present moment. The allegation which had been made that the opponents of the present Bill wanted to sustain and extend ecclesiastical authority was not founded upon justice or fact. It might as well be called a question of free trade. In no respect was the freedom of any man affsoted by the present eccle siastical law, except so E'er as it represented the will of God. Again, he repeated that the opponents of the preLeat Bill did not seek to increase the ecclesiastical power, but merely to have it left where it was. Mr. S. WORTLEY briefly explained.—(Divide.) After a few words from Sir F. THESIGER, who said there was an inconsistency in the Bill with respect to the jurisdiction of the civil and ecclesiastical courts, Mr. S. WORTLEY again briefly explained.—(Cries of " Divide, divide.") Mr. COCKBURN said it would be a most mis chievous course of legislation to pursue to array the ecclesiastical against the civil tribunals of the country.— ( Hear, hear.) The former did not stand so very high at present in public estimation as to place them in opposi tion to the civil tribunals.—(Hear, hear.) If the Bill was a bad one, let it be thrown out at once; but he asked them not to introduce such a confusion in the jurispru dence of the country as might be done by adopting the proposition of the Hon. Member for Plymouth, Mr. OSWALD was understood to support the amend ment. Mr. P. WOOD said that it was observed the present Bill did not propose to take away the jurisdiction of the ecclesiastical cote ts. That was a reason why the pro position of the Hon. Member fir Plymouth, to make the Bill consistent, ought to entertained. He was anxious to see the mode of proceeding adopted in the ecclesias tical courts reformed, and he thought they bad reason to complain of the Government for not having carried out those promises made a session or two ago in that respi ct. No step had been taken about those courts, although it should be admitted that their practice wits in a most unsatisfactory state.—(Hear, hear, and cries of " Divide.") Mr. FORBES supported the amendment. Mr. COCKBURN said the proposed clause did not relate merely to ecclesiastical causes. All the subjects of the realm contracting marriages which it was the object of the Bill to reader legitimate would, by the proposed clause, he liable to ecclesiastical censure on cantracting such marriage after the passing of the measure. After a few words from Mr. GOULBURN and Mr. LOCKHART Mr. iV ORTLEY said that his intention was in the fullest possible degree to preserve the discipline of the Church nf Scotland. M. L W said, if he understood the Hon. and Learned Gentleman correctly, the Church of Scotland ..uti the Free Church of Scotland would retain the power of ecclesiastical censure. Did the Hon. and Learned tleritleinan mean to extend that power to the Church of England? Mr. WOR MEV said, with one single exception, every rulesiastical censure now exercised by the Church of Scotland and the United Churches of England and Ireland would I.e preserved. Mr. ROUNDELL PALMER totally dissented from the construction put on the Bill by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. The Committee then divided when there appeared— For the amendment ... ... 103 Against it 145 Majority... ... The clause was then agreed to. Clauses 4 and 5 were also agreed to. Or. clause 6 being proposed, Colonel CHAT I'ERTON moved a proviso to the effect that nothing in the Act contained shall extend, or be construed to extend, to Ireland. Tne Honour able and Gallant Member continued to address the Committee at some length in support of the motion; but his observations were totally inaudible in the gallery. Mr. FARREIt moved that the Chairman should then report progress and ask leave to sit again. He had not heard a word of what had fallen from the Hon. and Gal lant Colonel; and he thought it was time that they should leave the unwholsome atmosphere of the House and retire to their beds.—(A laugh.) Colonel SIBTHORP supported the motion that the Chairman should then report progress. He believed that lion. Members did not know what was going on in the House that evening, what they were opposing, or what they were supporting. Mr. J. S. WORTLEY entreated the House to treat that question with the seriousness which its importance deserved. He would not then enter into any elaborate answer to the speech of the Hon. and Gallant Member f r Curk. He should, however, observe, that the objec tions stated by the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman applied t.) the principle of the measure, and not merely to the proposal that Ireland should be exempt from its opera tion. He had further to state, that the Archbishop of Dublin, Dr. Whately, the first ecclesiastical authority in Ireland, strongly approved of the Bill, and in one diocese in that country eight beneficed clergymen had expressed a similar opinion upon the subject. Mr. F. MAULE supported the motion for excluding Ireland from the operation of the Bill. lie believed that the great majorit), not only of the Protestants, but also of the Roman Catholics of that country, were decidedly opposni to the measure. Mr. NAPIER said that both the Protestants and the Roman Catholics of Irelstid were almost unanimous in their disapproval of the Bill; and he certainly thought that it would be most improper to force it on them against their deep and settled convictions. Colueel THONIPSON said he very much doubted A hether the opinion of the people, either of Ireland or , i f Scotland, was so decidedly hostile to the measure as some Hoe. Gentleman appeared to imagine. Mr. F MAULE said that a paid agent had been ram bling up and down Scotland to get up petitions against he Bill, and bad succeeded in getting up one amongst his cos_stituents—(Cheers and laughter) —but when he attempted to get up a public meeting he could not find a respectabl- person to take the chair.—(llear, hear.) Mr. SADLEER believed it would be impossible to raise any feeling in favour of the Bill. On no one sub ject had imperial legislation been more unfortunate than on the subject of marriage. A large and influential por tion of the people consisted of Presbyterians, who viewed the Bill with abhorrence, and he bad consulted several Roman Catholics, who expressed the greatest anxiety that Irish Members should do all in their power to con fine the operation of the Bill to England.—(Hear, hear.) The House ought to be careful not to force on the people of Ireland an alteration repugnant to their social habit., abhorrent to their religious convic tions, and which might lead to social disruption and convulsion.—(Hear.) The O'GORMAN MAHON protested against the accuracy of the statements made by the Hon. and Learned Members for Dublin and Carlow, and against the conclusion which they had drawn from those state ments. Had there been any dissonance of opinion amongst the Catholic body, they would have commu nicated their sentiments to the House. He called on them not to interfere with that discriminating power which had been so long and so wisely exercised by his Church. Mr. MONSELL said, every class in Ireland, whether Roman Catholics, Presbyterians, or members of the Es tablished Church, were opposed to the Bill. The beet proof of this was to be found in the fact that the promo ters of it, with ample pecuniary means at their command, and with emissaries in every part of the kingdom, had either sent none to Ireland, or, if they had, their success had been such that they had not obtained a single sig nature. That having been the case, the people of Ire land and Scotland, and a very large portion of the people of England being opposed to it, he thought they ought to reject it altogether. Colonel THOMPSON (who rose amidst loud cries of " Spcke") asked if it was contended that the Roman Catholic Church granted dispensations for acts which were against the general morals and general good of so ciety? If not, the Irish Catholics must admit what their Church admitted under certain cguditicus was a •.• -42 subject upon which human v.isdom and legislative dis cuslion had a right to be heard. Mr. A NSTE Y protested against the Hon. awl laarned Member for the University of Dublin speaking in the name of the Roman Catholics of Ireland—a superstitious and idolatrous body, with which he could have no con nexion whatever. Air. NAI'IER said ho had many Roman Catholics amongst his conscientious supporters, and by these he had been requested to oppose the Bill. Mr. MACGREGOR (who rose amidst a storm of impatience) said the religious and domestic sentiments of Scotland were opposed to the Bill. Colonel RA WDON urged upon the Committee the importance of assimilating the law in Ireland with that of the rest of the kingdom-. Viscount CASTLEREAGII did not think that prin ciple ought to prevail against the unanimous feeling of the Irish people; and as far as ho knew, Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, and what was called the Protestant Church of Ireland, were a!1 decidedly against the pass ing of this Mr. FAIRER then withdrew his motion for reporting progrees, and Tfr, Committee divided on Colonel Chatterton's rim tion, when there apposrei— For the motion ... Against it Majority against the motion... 1S The Bill tv,is then understood to pass through Com mittee, and the House resumed. Colonel CHATTERTON gave notice that he would move the same thing on the third reading. Mr. ANSTEY begi ; ed to give notice that he, on the contrary, would move en the report, that the Act he extended to the colonies and all the dominions of her Majesty. Mr. S. WORTLEY said, as somo discussion might he expected on the report, he would take a little time t) consider on what day he would move the considera tion of it ... 114 ... 132 THE NEW HOUSE. On the motion for going into Committee on the General Board of Health Bill, Mr. lIUME begged to ask a question of the lion. Member for Lancaster tespecting their accommodation in the new House. He wanted to know the meaning of the extraordinary illumination which he saw proceeding from the windows. It had given him a headache—a thing which he had scarcely ever had in his life. He really protested against sitting any longer in that House until some better arrangements were made. Mr. GREENE rose to reply, when The SPEAKER said the Hon. Member for Mon trose was out of order. The question before the House was he order of the day. The House then went into Committee on the GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH BILL. Mr. FORBES moved that the Chairman report pro , grass, and the gallery was cleared, but no division took place, and the Bill passed through Committee. POST-OFFICE CLERKS. Mr. ANSTEY moved for a copy of the memorial from the clerks of the money order department ad dressed to the Postmaster-General, in September, 1849, and referred to in their petition which was presented on the 7th instant, and printed with the votes; and of any correspondence between them and the Postmaster-Ge neral on the subject of the said memorial. Mr. HAYTE ft said there was not the slightest objec- tion on the part of the Post-office authorities to produce the memorial, but he did not think the House ought to form into a court of appeal with regard to the details of the management of the Poet-office, and should leave the matter in the hands of the Government. Lord D. STUART supported the motion, believing that those parties were very much underpaid, and that their case was deserving the consideration of that House. He hoped their grievances would be looked into by the heads of the department, and that they would obtain the redress they were entitled to. Mr. AGLIONBY hoped the House would be of opinion that theiHon. Member for Youghal was entitled to the information he asked for. Sir G. GREY said the House ought to be very cau tious in admitting appeals of this sort; but on the under standing that the Hon. Member intended to found a motion on the subject, it was for the House to say whether the memorial was necessary for that purpose or not. ' Major BLACKALL observed that the House was very properly a House of appeal in all cases of grievance, and the present case was one which they might very fairly and properly entertain. After some conversation, the House divided— For the motion ... ... 10 Against it ... ... 64 Majority • ... —54 The motion was accordingly lost. PRINCE EDWARD'S ISLAND. Mr. ADDERLEY moved "That the dispatches lately received from the Lieutenant-Governor of Prince Ed ward's Island be laid on the table of the House; also copies of correspondence which passed at the commence- meat of the ycar between the House of Assembly of that colony and the Secretary of State for the Colonial De partment." - Mr. HAWES said the pspers moved for would by no means convoy the information which it ts ai the in- tention of Earl Grey at the proper time to lay before the House on the subject. At the present time the produc tion of the papers would be att3nded with serious injury to the interests of the colony, and he could not accede to the motion. Mr. ADDERLEY said it would then be his duty to present the petitions which had reached him on the sub ject, and make a motion upon them. The motion was withdrawn. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter before Two o'clock. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 13. Their Lordships met at Five o'e!oei. PETITIONS. Lord MON rEAGLE presented a petition from bankers and merchants of Aberdeen, and a petition from Arbroath, complaining of the arrangements of the Aber dee❑ Rsilway Company. Lord CAMPBELL presented a similar petition from Cupar, in the county of Fife. SOUTH-EASTERN RAILWAY. On the motion that the South Eastern Railway (Amendment of Acts, Power to raise Additional Capital) Bill be read a third time, Lord MONTEAGLE presented a petition from Mr. Josiah Wilson, a shareholder in the company, com plaining of certai❑ malpractices on the part of the direc tors, and praying to be heard at the bar of the House against the present measure. The petitioner alleged that the directors had jobbed i❑ their own shares with the funds of the company, and as the prayer of the peti tioner could not be acceded to, the Noble Lord proposed to insert a clause giving the Board of Trade power to appoint an auditor, should the majority of the proprie tors consent to that course. Lord BROUGHAM said ho should certainly resist the proposal of his Noble Friend. Lord REDESDALE gave it as his opininion that to insert such a clause as that proposed by the Noble Lord would be contrary to the standing orders of the house. Lori MONTEAGLE iniiated that they had no right to give this company power to raise 1,200 . ,0001. more without taking some g uarantee that the money should not be applied to jobbing purposes. Lord REDESDALE said the insertion of the clause would be tantamount to throwing the Bill out altogether. Lord MON ['EAGLE reminded their Lordships that two years ago Sir Robert Peel inserted a similar clause in the Bill of a railway company who had been guilty of similar mal-practices. He moved the adjournment of the debate. Lord BROUGHAM contended that there bad been no jobbing in the instance complained of by the peti tioners. The transaction was an open and honourable. one, notwithstanding the money ca►►ae out of the funds of the company, and it ultimately proved beneficial to the shareholders. Lord HATHERTON said the transaction in fact was supported by the shareholders themsel►es, who agreed to it in genr.ral meeting assembled. Etri GREY said, aLhough be approved a the spirit and intention of the clause, he thought it was too lat.., to introduce it at this stage of the measure, and he must therefore resist it. After some further dismsion the amendment was neg.tativpd, and the Bill was read a third time and passed. THE COUR r OF CIIANCERY (COUNTY PALA- TINE OF LitNC ASTER) BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed after a protest from Lord CAMPBELL, who considered the Bill wholly unnecessary. DELIVERY OF LETTERS ON THE SUNDAY. Lord BROUGHAM having alluded to the late ad dress of the House of Commons on the subject of the Post , iffice—which was carried in a thin House by a very slight; majority—and to the reply to that address com municated by Lord John Russell to the Legislature, begged leave to ask her Majesty's Ministers whether letters, though they might not be sent out of the Post office on Sundry, might not be delivered on that day to those who applied at the Post-office for them between the hours of Divine service. The Earl of MINTO—No ; they are to be locked up in the box. Lord BROUGHAM—Then I hope that the people of England, and especially the merchants of Liverpool and other great towns, will learn in the next six months tho consequences of this order. The Marquis of WESTMEATH presented a petition from the city of Exeter against the Irish Franchise Bill On the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE the Sheriff of Westmorland Appointment Bill was read a second time. university, it appeared that be was entirely unaware of any intention of the issue of this commission until after the Government had declared their intention to Parlia ment; and it did not appear from the observations of the Noble and Gallant Duke the Chancellor of thee-Uni versity of Oxford, that he was at all aware of the iuteu tion entertained by the Government. It would throw a great difficulty in the way of working a commission of this kind, that those whose interests were the most affected should have been left entirely in the dark on the subject. In both the universities of late years a prudent, and efficient spirit of improvement had been manifested. He should deceive their Lordships if he were to say that that spirit was represented by a numerical ma jority of the b o dy o f t h e Universities; but if those who bad bsen active, both at Oxford and Cambridge, did not carry with them numerically a majority of the governing body, yet that body did carry with them so great a weight of character, so much respectability in point of university station, such high acquirements in the scale of literary distinction, that they had been able to obtain more than could have bean anticipated. In Cambridge the progress of reform had been considerable, and ho thought it only just to ststs what had been dune, what was now in progress, and the principles on which the improvements had been effected, beisause he found that many persons who had discu ;sod the qesstiou were either unscqeaiuted with what had been done, or had shut their eyes to the facts. Complaints had been made that the course of study was too restricted and too con fined; that they had set aside the larger objects brought under consideration in the lectures of professors, and confined themselves almost exclusively to those peculiar studies to which that University devoted its highest re wards—namely, mathematical studies. But in 1813 a cor responding system of honours was introduced connected with classical examinations. It was to a certain extent resisted, or viewed with a certain degree of disfavour. But ho asked their Lordships, whether at this moment the honours of the classical tripos were not looked to with as much ambition and eagerness as were the honours connected with mathematical knowledge in former times. In the college appointments, in the whole college course of study, in the administration of rewards, those who took the highest honours obtained positions in the Univer sity. That system had taken root, and was, now from day to day, advancing. These improvements had begun from the appointment of his late Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester as Chancellor of the University. The first prize he established was one for English com position.. In 1848, Cambridge University opened an entirely new career to university distinction for all pupils of the University, by establishing two great courses for the moral and natural sciences. But it was said that nothing in the way of reform could be expected from the colleges. That ho (Lord Monteagle) denied. Trinity College had reformed the whole of its statutes and consolidated all the amendments that had been made, in a natural way—that is to say, by the recom mendation of the Crown as visitor, and by the assent ef the Crown to the reformation in the statutes of the foundation. The rival college of St. John bad done the same. In Pembroke, Mr. Pitt's college, the whole of the statutes had been revised; and they had also been revised in the same manlier, that was, with the consent of the Crown, in Jesus ; while in Peterhouse certain restrictions had been removed by royal letter. In the University itself a revision of its own statutes had been under consideration for upwards of seven years; it was now nearly completed—it was hoped it would be ready this year; and then it would be/ carried into effect unless the pressure coatemplated by the com mission changed the purpose of its promoters. But the University had done:still more —it had made a mere for mality a reality, as in the case of a degree of medicine, for which a strict examination was now required in che mistry and natural science generally. It had also founded several prizes. He argued, therefore, that the commis sion was undertaken without any adequate appreciation of what was in progress in the University of Cambridge at least, and he would also add, without any perfect com prehension of the difficulty and delicacy of the task imposed upon it. There was a further fact which should be impressed on the House—those con cerned in these movements for improvement within the University did not, ho was sorry to say, include the numerical majority. What then, he asked, would be the effect of the commission? Would it not add to their difficulty, and check the march of improvement? He (Lord M.) did not for a moment mean to say that the whole question of university reform could be carried without the aid of Parliament; but how different would that aid be appreciated when forced upon a reluctant body to what it would be when sought for by themselves. The commission had no compulsory power of examina tion. A great delusion prevailed as to the wealth of the Universities. As far as regarded Cambridge, he could state that it had not the means to enclose its botanical garden, or the money to pay for stationery laid on the table of the Senate House on a late occasion. So much for its wealth. But it was urged that the Universities were indebtel to the public taxation. How was the fact? The Chancellor of the Exchequer received every year some 3.0001. or 4,000/. for stamps on de grees; while the Government only gave about 800/. a-) ear as salaries to professors. These allegations did not, therefore, .constitute a sufficient ground to issue a commission; and he earnestly entreated the Government not to change their minds, but to delay the issue until the appropriate time arrived for it, that was to say, when an application to that effect came from the Universities. Its issue at the present time would, he was satisfied, impede the progress of further improve ments, and retard rather than accelerate university re form. The Noble Lord then moved for the papers above enumerated. The Esrl of CARLISLE, on the part of the Govern ment, had nu objection to the production of the papers in question, and in doing so he confirmed the statement of his Noble Friend that neither his Noble Friend at the head of the Government, or any Member of the Govern ment as a body, in any steps which they contemplated, iir had taken, or should take in respect to the commis sion on the Universities, were actuated by other than the most respectful feelings and the hest intentions towards the learned bodies ; indeed, he should sadly belie his own sentiments, and be deeply ungrateful for some of the happiest days of his life, if he was actuated by a contrary feeling. Her Majesty's Government. were not less indisposed than he was himself to under value or ignore the many useful improvements in pro gress by the Universities, adopted, or in the course of adoption, and he hoped that the commission might not be without it use in recognising and calling attention to them, as well as in promoting them and encouraging those by whom they were promoted, the more especially as the Noble Lord had truly stated that many of these that tb: improvements par ty w b e r r p e r n b o g t r e e s affec wastedowe I p t h a o r t t l y t r in e s a i s t b a u e m c ee,r numerical minority. The expression of approval and sympathy on the pert of competent persons without the Universi ties could not fail to give strength and aid to those who undertook the task of rational improvement within. He (Earl of Carlisle) knew that the Universities were the subject of much unmerited censure; and he was also aware that it would be urged that the commission gave the stamp of her Majesty's Government to that censure. But that was a reason for inquiry all the more, because the more any misconception prevailed on a subject the more useful it was to let in the light of day on it. It was obvious to every one that the charters and statutes of the Universities—firmed as they were, under the Plantugenets and Tudors, and modified only in the time of Laid—were not sufficient for modern times. Indeed, in some respects they were —at least some of them —rendered obsolete by the change of manners as much as by the change of re ligion of the country, and could therefore only be dealt with in practice by an evasion. To divert a charter from its original purpose was, he admitted, a delicate as well as a difficult task; but it seemed to him that the most useful part of the labours of the commission would be, in conjunction with the resident members of the Universities, to decide in what respect application should be made to the Legislature for those modi fications and alterations required by the changed circumstances of the times in the existing laws of those bodies. It had been urged that modifications m i g h t b e made by those bodies themselves ; but it was obvious to every one that such a course would not satisfy those persons who were opposed to the present c eistitution of the Universities. Whatever might be thought of the proceedings of the Government, how. ever, they disclaimed any disrespect, ill-feeling, or slight towards the Universities. If any neglect appeared to have been shown to the Universities, or to their distin euished Chancellors, no ono would regret it more than his Noble Friend at the head of the Government; at all events, those illustrious individuals who were at the head of both held such a high position in the eyes of the world as to make wilful disrespect to them utterly impossible. A commission had issued under a late Government to inquire into the condition 01 chapters and ecclesiastical dignities, and the Right Rev. and other distinguished persons appointed under it afforded in their names a So with respect to the commissi on on t h e Uni sufficient guaranty t hat no disresp ect whatever was in tended.versities. Whatever persons were appointed to serve on it, th e G overnmen t would take care th at t h ey were men general chara c t er, were actuated for the Uni vers i t i es, and the b w y h o a , e o s s i t d s i e i a r f fe high ctio b tendency of whose objects should be to coatpersee with the be s t a n d mos t en lightened men i n these l earned bodies, Earl POWIS complained that the commission had been issued, not as a substantive measure, but as the supplement of a periodical motion in the other House, the object of which was to admit Dissenters to the go vernment of the Universities. 'rho commission would interfere wi:h property on a large scale as regarded the power of beqnest, and the First Minister of the Crown was now about to destroy the arrangements of the an. cient donors, which the founders had sacrificed their property to create, The Noble Earl had alluded to the ecclesiastical commission issued by Sir R. Peel, but he could not have chosen a prece lent more justly ca'culated to strike t error an d create hostility in th e U niversities, fur that c omm i ss i on had destroyed the p roperty of the bishopric s an d c h a pters, snd it was now i ntended to be followed up by a Bill to divert episcopal revenues to pa rochial purposes, though chapters were still a ll owed to hold pl ura li t i es . That was not the w ay to procure amity on the part of the Government towards the Uri . - versities. c'iuld be more from wan t of respect or of kindly feeling l t e he Fr o i o eta ni .l . mi L ss o io rd:h ar l i l s O in : GIIAM agreed with . his Noble uwriiitorusepotkheanlaidlebisiut supposition of n t t h a e hi s n s g uing towards the Universities.—(Henr.) Neve rt h e l ess , h o and their L or d ships had of Welli ngton), which thought the commission a very great error, a very great mistake; but, MS his reason had beea stated i n hi s l etter had tohi t s )e N en ob mci Noble Friend p rielc(,the ndp probably seen, he nt ed hardly trouble the House with his opinion, and argument, and protest. •$e felt bo u nd to write that lett T as the head of University C o ll ege , London, thou g h h e ac t e d entirely of his own accor d , an d W ith out any commun i cat i on with his Council, and pur posely avoided making them responsible by any previous communication. But ho had another reason for writing it—the put he hid taken for 35 year§ in inquiries of APPOINTMENTS. Clerk—Timothy Cliooh, to the Fisgard. Lieutenant—George W. Towsey, to the Sealark. MtdAiprnen—Edward Tongue and Edward W, Dillon, to the Sealark. Second Master—Samuel Braddon, to the Illus. triou=. Naval Cadet—Edward Adeane, to the Phaeton. THE EFFECT OF SHOT AND SHELL ON THE HULL OF IRON VESSELS. The first experiment for testing the effect of she; and shell on the sides of iron vessels took place on 'Wednesday at Portsmouth, under the superintend ence of Captain Chads, on board the Excellent. The Commander in -Chief, Admiral the Hon. Sir Bladen Cape], Rear-Admiral Prescott, and a number of naval and military officers, were on board her. A large butt, being a copy of a section of the Simoom's main deck, had been made in the dockyard, representing the two sides of an iron vessel, each side of the strength and consistency of one of the large iron steam-ships. This butt was erected on the mud, at a distance of 460 yards from the Excel lent, and the practice took place at high water from guns of several calibre, and various charges of pow der, both shot and shell, were fired. At intervals between the firing boats visited the butt to examine the effects of particular shot on the iron work. It was found that on the side that the shot entered a large and tolerably round hole was made in the iron plate, the circumference being much jagged an d t h e e d ge turne d i nwar d. O n th e opposite side where the shot passed out the hole was larger and also jagged, the edge of the hole turned outwards, with occasionally some rivets started. Some of the s h o t on enter i ng , an d from striking against angles of th e ir on r ib s , w ere broken in pieces, the fragments passing out at the opposite side, making holes of various sizes and formations. Shells also ironwork in to have a destructive effect on the in creating splinters, and the pieces of shell passing out through the plates at the opposite side, the off. side in all cases suffering most. Of course neither shot, aor shell, nor grape, nor canister, would lodge in iron vessels, as would be the case in wooden vessels. To test the effect of the splinters inside the vessel, a alight plank bulkhead had been run yip between the iron sides of the butt. This was found entirely shattered, and shows clearly how dread fully the crew of an iron vessel would have suffered, more especially when it is considered that the splin ters from the jagged iron inflict the most dangerous description of wound, even a slight one predisposing the party hurt to tetanus or lockjaw, and otherwise being most difficult to cure. From the experiments made yesterday, we conclude that iron vessels are not fit to cope with vessels of wood, neither are they fi , to go against batteries, for it is now tolerably certain that the fatal effects of every shot received on board would be quadrupled by the tendency of the iron work to splinter, .fly off, and destroy everything in the immediate vicinity of the concussion, more espe cially when the ball itself is also likely to split and break to pieces likewise. The experiments were further tested to-day by Ciiptasn Chads, and instead of the plain bulkhead, canvas is stretched across, which will show the effect of the splinters and broken shot more effectually than hoards. Shot and shell were both fired to-day, and Captain Chads will continue the test till he can make a satisfactory report. THE UNIVERSITIES. Lord MONTE AGLE then rose to move for copies of letters addressed by the First Lord of the Treasury to the Universities of Oxford and of Cambridge on the subject of the issue of a commission of inquiry; and copies of any resolutions or communications entered into or made on behalf of those Universities in relation to the same subject. He did not see that any objection could be made to, or that any inconvenience could arise from, their produc , ion • but, in moving for them, he thought it neussary, in order to prevent any misconception, to state the grounds on which he wished to bring them under their Lordships' consideration. He should be sorry to be understood as inferring that the Government, in advis • ing the issue of this commission, had been actuated by any adverse feelings to the Universities. On the contrary, ho believed they intended to pro mote the interests of those seats of learning, and the cause of education generally throughout this country. But while ho gave them credit fir such in tentions, he might be allowed to doubt whether the course taken by them at this time, and under present circumstances, was really calculated to promote that ob ject.—(fleir.) This measure originated, purely and exclusively, in the decision of the Government them selves, without any communication whatever with any university authority at Cambridge. Indeed, from the letter of his Illustrious Friend the Chnneellor of that FRIDAY EV E NING, JUNE 14, 1850, this description. But in the inquiries to which he had alluded the Universities u ere cerefuily exempted, be I cause it was known that improvements were going on, and nothingsvene — kO much to be avoided as interfering with the course of then. It was said that the inquiry then was compulsory, end this was to be voluntary ; so much the worse. We should have one-sided information —(Hear)—those who were discontented with all that was done, and all that was not done, would come forward readily enough, while those who wero attacked by these informers—the persons giving this information --would have no means of de`ending themselves. Their evidence would be, not themselves, but other persons, and they had not the power of summoning any ono. It was as if he were indicted for an offence, and the Crown had the power of summoning witnesses, but he had not. Then, too, there were parties who had taken oaths, which would not allow of their producing their docu ments before such a voluntary commission.—(flesr, hear.) There Fore he (Lord Brougham) objected to this proceeding. HJ had b-en rather astonished to read the letter of the illustrious Prince to whom the Noble L had referred. _He was the Chancellor of a university, and he (Lord Brougham), for one, deeply reeretted that that illustrious Prince was placed by the tni.tsken zeal of his friends in that false position ; and for this obvious reason, that the chancellor of a university ought to be a person wholly unconnected with the Crown, wholly in dependent of the Crown, because it might be his bounden duty as Chancellor of the University to be is conflict with the Crown. His Noble and Illustrious fsieed (the Duke of Wellington) was unconnected with the Crean, and might well perform his duties as a chancellor; he was in no Lase position; Prince Albert was in a false position, because ho was connected with the Crown by certain ties, anti yet he was bound to stand up for the University against the Crown. The consequence was a very great unpopularity incurred by the illustrious Prince. And, by the way, he mistook the law of this country a little, when he said that a Royal Commission spoke the sense of the Parliament. It was a very natu• ral mistake for those to fall into who lived in countries where the Legislature and the Sovereign were one and the same person. But the Royal Commission spoke the sense of the Crown, and in no way of the Parliament. With respect to what the Noble Earl had said, it would hardly he thought much comfort perhaps that the model upon which this commission was framed was the Chap ter Commission; that was not supposed to be very po pular with the cathedral bodies. He denied that the proceeding at all arose from a want of respect to the Uui versities; but was it from a deference to the prejudices or feelings of certain persons, whom the Noble Lord not obscurely adumbrated? For be said—" We must not leave it to the colleges to reform themselves, because that would not satisfy those who had strong prejudices against the colleges." Now that was not a reason for issuing a commission. The cvsestion was, whether it was right or wrong, not whether these peo would be satisfied or not.—(Hear, hear.) Just in the same way we were going to have the Post- office ar rangements altered, and no letters delivered in or sent out from any town on the Sunday; and so you might write your letter on the most important subject, about some bill of exchange falling due, or any other matter, and you might put it into the Post-uffice, but it would not leave the place till the Monday. The Saturday let ters might arrive on Sunday, but you must wait till Monday to receive them; the letters that had hitherto left on Sunday would not go out at all, and you must wait till Tuesday to receive them; working a degree of inconvenience which would prove most hurtful to mer cantile men. But all this was done because there was a pressure from without, which must be yielded to. The Earl of CARLISLE would be sorry that an in ference should be drawn from any words of his which he had not intended to convey. When he referred to the commission relating to chapters, it was not his intention to indicate that the same results were likely to follow from this commission as followed from that.—(llear, hear.) T heir revenues wore tran4e;Ted, be it right or wrong, to other persons and purposes. There were no others to whom it was proposed to transfer the property of the Universities. Lord BROUGHAM was not sure of that. The Earl of CARLISLE disclaimed any such inten tion. He only referred to the former commission for the purpose of showing that this proceeding was dictated by no want of respect.—(Hear, hear.) The Duke of WELLINGTON was happy to hear the explanation of the Noble Earl. He must confess he Was perfectly satisfied with what was stated in the first instance, on the understanding that the intention was to make choice of the per sons w h o s h ou ld compose this proposed commission on the principle on which the per sons were selected who composed the Ecclesiastical Corn mission. —(Hear.) Lord BROUGHAM observed that if a commission was appointed, though it should consist of angels, this must inevitably follow—they must open their doors, and their ears, and their books of notes to receive the infor mation and all the accusations that any discontented per sons chose to lay before them ; nor could they suppress this. It must ,be, reported and printed, and laid before Parliament. His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge. Duke of Rutland. Marquises—Exeter, Drogheda, and Downshire. Lords—Cardigan, Lonsdale, Hewth, Stanhope, Airlie, Besborough, Enfield, Villiers, Jersey, F. Fitzroy, G. Manners, C. Manners, Clifden, Cuntilupe, Canterbury, Stanley, Eglinton, Newport, Stradbroke, A. Lennox, Vivian, A. Vane, Dunkellin, Sefton, Osborne, W. Pow lett, Wilton, Chesterfield, Exmouth, Runelagh, and A. Fitzclarence. Barons—Rothschild, Osten, and Count Bathyany. Honoutables—Captain Somerset, C sprain Boyle, Major Pitt, Captain Roux, H. Curzon, Col. Anson, 11. Forrester, Fres. Where, Fredk. Villiers, Lawley, S. Herbert, and H. Baring. Sirs—H. Peyton, R. Pigott, 11. Campbell, S. Spry, F. Peicock, G. Heathcote, G. Houston, G. Armitage, W. W. Wynne, and Baird. Generals—Wernyss, and Charritie. Colonels—W ) ndhatn, Peel, Vyse, Hall, Ferguson, Murray, Drummond, Knox, and Newton. Majors—Needham, and Pearson. Captains—Lowther, Foster, Carleton, Mills, Archdall, Hervey, and Seymour. Messrs.—Shelley, S. Stanley, Bastard, Crawford, Des Viseux, Newton, Batson, Greville, R. H. Neville, Gre gory, I'. Williams, Milner, 'Williamson, Shafto, Wigram, Balfour, &c., &e. The racing commenced at half-past one, and finished, as we have before stated, at five, time having been well observed, and the arrangements in all respects satis factory. The Windsor Forest Stakes, of 50 soya. each, h ft; for three yrs old fillies, Bst 71b each; the winner of the Derby, Oaks, Coronation Stakes, or 1,000 Guineas, to carry slb extra. Old Mile. (3 Subs.) Duke cf Richmond's Officious...(Flatman) walked over. Sweepstakes of 50 sovs. each, h ft; for three yrs old colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 31b; 41b and 6lb allowed, &e. Swinley Course. (25 Subs.) Mr. Greville's Cariboo, Bst 31b Mr. Batsou's Thistledown, Bst llb (Sly) 2 Mr. Etwall's Bushra nger , B st l lb (Matson) 3 Lord Exeter' s Cl e li u, 7st 13: b (Norman) 4 Colonel Peel's L ong i nus, Bst 31b R asers 5 Lord Exete t ' s Li tt l e J ac k , Bst 31b (Marlow ) 6 Betting -6 to 4 agst Longinus -3 to 1 Kest Cariboo— and 4 to 1 e.ch agst Thistledown and Bushranger. Cariboo took up the running at starting, a :d with a lead of a clear length, carried it on into the ().d Mile, he was then joined by Little Jack, but shook him off at the last turn, was never kfierwards caught, and won easily hy a length, half a length betwe en s econ d and thira; Clelia well ue. Run in 2 min. 45 sec. The Visitors' Plate of 100 aiNs., and 25 for the second horse, by subscription of 5 sore. each. Once roiled and a distance. (26 Subs.) Sir J. Hawley's Fernhill, 5 ) ra, Bst 4th (Templeman) 1 Lord V. Powleta'e Give•and- Take, sst 10 b (Ellett) 2 Sir H. Booth's Retail, 4 yrs, 74t 31b Mr. Freemen's Impression, 3 yrs, 55t...... (T. Smith) 4 Major Pitt's Mary, 4 yrs, 6st (Coll.ns) 5 Betting-5 to 2 egst Fernhill (t)-3 to 1 apt Envie.- sion-7 to 2 agst Retail—and 4 to 1 agst each of the others. Feruhill went away with a clear lead, which, followed by Mary to the Brick-kiln turn, and thence to ti e straight-running, by Impression, he maintained to the distance; here Impression and Give and-'fake cles,d with him, and they ran abreast for a few strides, Fern bill then resuming his lead, and won by a length, a length separating the second from the third. Run in 3 min. 55 sec. A piece of plate, value 500 sous., the gift of his Majesty the Emperor of all the Russias, added to a Sweep stakes of 20 soya. each; for three yrs olds, 6 , 4 101 b; four, Bst slb ; five, 9st; six and aged, 9st 31b; mares and geldings allowed 31b; abont two miles and k hdif. (14 Sabs.) Lord Eglinton's The Flying Dutchman, 4 yrs(Merlow) I Lord Lonsdale's Jericho, aged (Rogers) 2 Lord Stanley's Cara zeal, 5 yrs (F. Butler) 3 Lord Exeter's Little Jack, 3 yr5............(J. Mann) 4 Lord Ifowth's Peep-o'day Boy, 6 yrs (A. Day) 5 Betting -7 to 4on Flying Dutchman-2 to 1 agst Cate:eat—and 7 to 1 agst Petp-e'day-Bees Peep-o'day-Boy made running, followed by Caro zou end Little Jack, the favourite next, and Jericho last; they ran so, at a capital pace, to the 3winley Post. where the mare took a strong lead, which she retained to the last turn; here The Flying Dutchman, who had been drawing up from the Brick-kiln tuna went up, quitted her in an instant, and won in the commonest of canters by 8 lengths; Jericho, who came inside the distance, beating the mare by two lengths. Run in 3 min. 40 sees. The St. James's Palace Stakes of 100 soya, each, h ft., for three yrs-old ; colts Bst 71b., fillies, Sat 41b. Old Mile. (12 Subs.) • Lord Exeter's Nutcracker (Marlow) I Mr. Payne's Sergius (Flatman) 2 Lord Orford's Zadoc (S. Rogers) 3 Mr. Bowes's Mickleton (F. Butler) 4 Duke of Rutlend's cby Mus, out of Virago (Boyce) 5 Betting-5 to 2 agst Virago colt-3 to 1 agst ISlic kleton-3 to 1 agst Nutcracker-4 to 1 agst Zadoc -4 to 1 agst Sergius. Nutcracker took the lead at starting, and made slow running to the turn, where he was joined by Sergius, Zadoc, and Mickleton; a splendid race between the lot ended in favour of Nutcracker by a neck; a head hetween second and third, with 'Zadoc very close up. Run in 1 min. 57 sec. Tne New Stakes of 10 soya. each, with 100 added; for two yrs old colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, 84 31b; winners previous to starting of 100 SM. value, including the winner's own stake, to carry 51b extra. T.Y.C. (47 Subs.) Mr. I'uyne's Citadel (Flatman) 1 Mr. Cowley's - Heart of Oak (Marlow) 2 D. of Richmond's Buckhound (51b extra) (S. Mann) 3 Mr. Tarrenee's Grosvenor (W. Day) 0 Sir J. Hawley's Mee ry Peal (Tsmplemee) 0 Mr. S. Herbert's cby Sir Hercules, out of Adele (Sly) 0 Lord H. Lennox's Turtle (R igere) 0 Mr. Oliver's Sir Rowland Trenchard (A. Day) 0 Mr. W. Stebbings' Knook Knoll hitehous e ) 0 Lord Strathmore's Faux Pai ............ (J. Marson) 0 Mr. Thompion's Jack Robinson ......... (W. Aba a l e ) 0 Betting-5 to 2 agst Ci ta d e l -3 to 1 agst Faux Pas -4 to 1 each agst Merry Peal and Buckhound-5 to 1 aget Grosvenor—and 7to 1 agt..t any other. Knook Knoll, Heart-of-Oak, Merry Peal, Buckhound, Citadel, and the Adela colt, formed the front rank at starting, and ran together to the distance, where Citadel quitted her horses, and ran home a very clever winner by two lengths. Run in 1 min. 18 sec. 'The Stand Plate of 70 BOYS. j three yrs old, 7st 7lb ; four, 9st ; five, 9st Bth ; six and aged, 9st 12,1) ; mares and geldings allowed 31b ; horses entered to be hold for 4001 allowed 31b ; for 3001., 71b ; fur 200/., 121 b; for 1004, 121 b. Swinley Course. 'tr. S. Herbert's Radulphus, aged (200/0 ...... (SI)) Lord Exeter's Preslaw, 3 yrs (2001.) (W. Harlock) 2 . Mr. Comb a ' s T rouncer, 6 yrs Captain Lowther's Watehdog, 6 yrs (1000 (Rogers) 4 Mr. Sr. G eorge ' s Whi m co l t (2000 ...(Wakefield) Mr. Death' s L a dy F rances , 5 yrs (1000 W.Ab,"daloe ) 0 ) 0 Mr. G. Cr ewe ' s 13elissint (h b), 3 yrs (1001.) , ( Mr. Cowley' :; Second Sight. 4 yes (10 0 /) (I)ckLeor a Y? 0 _ Mr. Stebbings' s C o u n tess of Albenterl:, 1 (100/0 (Nitta) 0 Betting-2 to 1 ugst Preslaw-4 t Albemarle (1001.) agst Rs dt4hu and Second Sight—and 5 to Ithgt b 1 agst any other. h Won very cleverly by two lengths---,1 (tweet second and third. Run in 2 min. 45 , sec : ST. LEGER BETTING. 5 to 2 agst Voltigeur 8 to 1 agst Pitsford. 7 to 1 agst Clincher The races commence this day at one o'clock. The Duke of WELLINGTON entirely agreed with his Noble and Learned Friend (Lord Brougham) upon the abstract question of the appointment of a commis sion t inquire into the Universities of all.—(Hear, hear.) He (the Duke of Wellington) had stated his opinion upon that question, and he did not think it necessary to ststo it again. That upon which he intended to express his satisfaction was the explanation of the Noble Earl respecting the choice of the members of the commis sion. —([leer, hear.) The Noble Lord himself, who had declared his in'ention of advising the appoiLtment f this c , nirnission, had stated in his letter addressed t•J the illustrious Prince and to himself, as the chancellors of the Universities, the object to which the inquiries should be directed. He (the Duke of Wellington) eel tuinly did not desire that those inquiries should be made; lie did not think those inquiries were necessary. But we were to have a commission, he did desire that it should bo composed in the manner referred to by the Noble Earl. The motion was then agreed to. The House udj.:urned :it ►lab-past Seven o'clock. NAVAL IN TELLIGEN CE. The Ajax, GO, Captain Quinn, was to have sailed from Portsmouth o❑ Wednesday evening fur Cork, touching at Plymouth, but the strong westerly gale (which still blows) prevented her—she has orders to sail when the wind moderates. The Sprightly went out to her yesterday with some supernumeraries for Plymouth. The 'Tecate, steam-sloop, went out from Ports mouth to try her engines and machinery aftsr re• pairing, yesterday, but something being amiss she came in again, and will be again tried in a few dap. The Elfin was brought on the graving•slip of Portsmouth on Wednesday, and came off again the same tide. Yesterday Major-General Lord Frederick Fitz clarence, and staff; with Colonel John Owen, pro ceeded to Cumberland Furt to inspect the Royal Marine Artillery, under Colonel Commandant Gib sone; the usual gun target, shell, and rocket practice was gone through. Colonel Gibsone and the officers of the corps entertained, at a splendid lunch, Lord Frederick Fitzclarence and staff, Colonel Owen, and a large party of officers. T HE P A VILION AT BRIGHTON.—M T . Sli ght (clerk to the Commissioners) has negotiated a l oan of 60,0 W/. for the purchase of the Pavilion estate. The lenders are the Bank of England, and the rate of interest 4 per cent. As sriou as the necessary legal steps for completing the loan have been taken the Palace ground will be thrown open to the public.—Briyhton Gazette, SPURTING INTELLIGENCE. T AQUATICS. ASCOT RACES.—Tutraspe.r. ' . ROYAL LONDON YACHT curxt. , - Althn!i g h the 'jle cric of the weather," to the great 1 The entries for-the G alai C xllenge Cup Mat e eh, taen,.. terror of the holiday folks, seemed very much inclined . poi n t e d f ur the 19th instant, heverclosed, and a_D — as in th e early part or the day to give his fiat in favour if fellow:—Moor Park. 18 tons, Brown—Whisper, 19 tone, rain, he ultimately compromised the matter for two or Eveleigh—Phantom, 20 tons, S. Lane—Frolic, 12 tons, three smart showers, which herdly served to lay the A. Cox—Alligator, 22 tons. J. H. Leeth—Rival, 10 tons, dust on the road, and had nn effect on the course, which ,J. T. Holmes—Linnet, 10 tons, Hollis Knox. The in some parts was as hard as bricks. To see the crowds 1 beautiful sailing of the Whisper in the Royal Thames of carriages and pedestrians, which kept arriving up to Yacht matches last week, in which she was a winner, the moment of st a rting fir the first race, no one need makes her the favourite in the above. It will be a fine have been und e r th e slightest apprehension that the race, on a graduated scale, the distance extending from glories of the Ascot Cup Day were on the wane, as the Blackwell to Gravesend anti back. The Gem steamer is assemblage equalled what we have observed on many chartered to uccorupany the race. former occasions. Still the knowledge that what has MAIDENHEAD REGATTA. been well termed. " the handsomest procession of the The first regatta of Clifden, Maidenhead, and Cooke year," would not issue from the gates of Windsor Castle, ham, under the patronage of the nobility and gentry of and thus give her enthusiastic subjects their annual peep the neighbourhood, and conducted by a committee ofthe at her Majesty, had undoubtedly the eff e ct of keeping most influential residents, took place ou Wednesday, and many away. N o t w i t h stan di ng t hi s d raw b ac k , every I was most f as hi ona bl y and numerously attended. The form and manor o f man seemed present, down to the priass were valuabl e , an d t h e races, fifteen in number, indigenous " Paddy," of Queen's Hounds notoriety, and affirded much graritiestien. Paddock, who jeered at his scars in a booth, and about WATERMI,/i'S PAIR OARS. the death of whose recent antagonist, Bendigo, a vary First Ilk - -kt. general rumour was afloat. All the " humours of the Andrews end Wilder. Maidenhead extraordinary evoluti o n s , ae d the sun burnt followers of A gelidrace, won by two l engths. 0 Lady Moore Carew muttered their ;e ee l horoscopes to Second Heat. as merry as chose to cross their hands with a bit of Windsor and Joel. Eton silver, whi t a; muc h energy and mystery as ever. All Centaur and Emery, Eton .. 0 the interest of the day was concentrated on the meeting ' A hollow i ace. of the Fl du Dutchman an] C am z na for the Ems , —Final Ilea'. ror's Plate. It will be remembered title in the lust Andrews and Wilder, Maidenhead — a 1 Houghton meeting Lld Stanley forwarded a challenge Cannon and Emery, Eton to Lord Egliuton, to run him over the T. M. M.. t h e T he second pair were swamped shortly after the start. mare to carry Sit 101 b, and the horse Sst 21b. This AMATEUR SCULLERS' MATCII, Lord Eglinton declined, on the ground that he was not First Heat. sure of a walk over in the Belroir Sfakee, which came off on the last day of that meeting, though it was said at the time, that if Lord Stanley would have consented to have his mare weighted at Sit 131 b, his challeoge would have been accepted. The present was the first chance they had of meeting since, which they did at a difference of 61b for the year, and we seldom remember so much general interest excited about any cup race. To the surprise of nearly all, it turned out a most hol low affair; Cam zou, atter forcing the running from the Swinley starting-post, not only finishing ten lengths behind the Dutchman, but being caught and cleverly beaten at the Stand by old Jericho. In both the Visitors' Plate and the St. James's Palace Stakes the winners made strong running. The lat er evert was a very hear thing with four out of the five, and much delight wee experisnced when Lord Exeter's number was hoisted on the telegraph, as his horses had been running all the week with very moderate success. The New Stakes produced a good field, and a fair day's rac ing was brougnt to a close by five o'clock. The Rept! Stand, and the Stewards' Room in the weighing stand, were fail of elegantly-dressed women, and great numbers were congregated on the lawn in front of the Grand Stand, where, by the way, a better supply of seats would have been very acceptable. Of theprincipal male visitors we can furnish but a brie! list:— C. Clifford, London .... C. L. Vaughan, Oxford A good race for some distance, but won easily at last. S.cond Heat. J. Erskine Clarke, Oxford W. Hope, Oxford 0 Final Heat. J. Erskine Clarke, Oxford 1 C. Cliff )rd, London A capital race throughout, won by half a length only. DISTRICT PAIR-OARED MATCH. Webber and Jacobs, Eton C. W. and A. K. Grentell Cook and Plumber, Maidenhead . The winners took the lead shortly after the start, and kept it. _ WATERMEN'S FOUR-OARED MATCH. Oxford Crew 1 Cook, Venal)les, West, Penn; Cook, steeror. Eminaney's Eton Crew .Erninaney, Cannon, Wirdsor, Joel. K.emoster's Eton Clew Kempster, C. Hill, G. H.ll, Woodhouse. It was a beautiful race, all three being together for some distance. Then the winners went slightly in ad lance. The two others came in oar and oar. AMATEUR PAIR-OARED MATCH. First Heat. Vaughan and Bengough, Oxford Howard and Sherwood, London 0 The latter pair went off at a rattling pace, but were unable to maintain it, and their adverannes won by two two lengths. Second Heat+• Messrs. Chitty and Hornby, Ox!ord 1 Messrs. Rich and Hisnbury, ditto won easily. Final Heat. Messrs. Chitty and Hornby Messrs. Vaughan and Bengough It was a capital race, wo❑ by half a length. The second party claimed a foul, but it was disallowed. FOUR-OARED RACE. Gentlemen Amateurs. Lincoln College Club, Ovord Messrs. Ihrris, 1; Craven, 2; Isles, 3; Howard, stroke; Bent, steerer. Christ Church Boat Club 0 Messrs. J. Nick, 1; Hanbury, 2; Armand, 3; W. Rich, stroke; Cotton, steerer. It was a most animated close contest throughout, and won by only half a length. GRAND CHALLENGE CUP, for eight-oared boats. The Lincoln College Boat-club, Oxford, rowed over the course to claim. DISTRICT FOUR-OARED MATCH. The llebe Club, Windsor and Eton Messrs. Webber, Crook, Jacobs, Pearl,. Royal George Club, Bray Messrs. Middleton, Bedbury, Saunders, Druid. There was a third entered. It was a smart race all the way, and won only by a length. The arrangements were altogether very good. Mr. Reynolds, of Oxford University, officiated as umpire. THE COUNTRY MARKETS. BRISTOL, JUNE I3.—English Wheat, with fair supplies, sells freely at 15 per quarter over previous prises. Foreign in really good conditi on i s i n narrow compass, and prirae parcels of Polhill and French aro held for Is per quarter advance. At this day's market English new wheat fetched from 381 to 42s per imperial quarter; foreign, white, 421 to 44s per 4801bs; ditto, red, extra fine qualities, 385 to 425; ditto fine ditto, 38s to 391; ditto, ditto, ordinary ditto, 35s to 36s 6d ; ditto, hard, 344 to 375. For grinding barley there is rather more inquiry. Eng halt maiting fetched to day 235 to 26s per imperial quarter; i ditto and foreign grinding, 18s is 21s per 4031 b. Oats of fine qualities were scarce, and fully maintained previous rates. Devon and Welsh sold at Iss to 165 per imperial quarter ; Irish j w h ile, 16, 61 to 185 per 3201 b; ditto, black, 15s tid to 16s per imperial quarter. Beans met a dull sale, but former rates Were maintained. English brorght from 24, to 27s flif per imperial quarter ; foreign, 22s to 24s per 4SGIb Flour, Engiisla second, sold at 27s to 295 per sack ; American, &c. sweet, V.3s to 45 per barrel. The arrivals for the week are— Wheat, 379 quarters; oats, 1, 95 quarters ; barley, 2,' 64 quarters ; flour, 1,166 sacks. The average• for the week are : Wheat, 43s 2d ; oats, 17. 9d ; barley, 19s 6d ; beans, 3 2d. BIRMINGHAM, kNE 13. —At Gloucester and Worcester markats, en the 8:11, wheat was Cd to Is per ginner dearer ; but the trade ruled dull. Barley sold in retail parcels, fur rather more money. Oats held for fully as high prices. On beans the turn was in favour of the buyer. We had few in quiries fur peas. This week the sales reported in wheat are at Previous currency, but the weather having been very fine, the trade has been void of animation. Very little doing in barley. Same black oats have realised rather higher rates. beans neglected, but not lower. At this day's market there was a large supply of English wheat, and the trade ruled dull, at the currency of this day se'nnight. Grinding barley rather more inquired fur. Not much doing in oats, their Tattle is unaltered. Beans rather lower. We had more inquiry for peas. BOSTON, JUNI 12.—Wheat, red 35s to 39s Od, white 38. to 425, extra 44s ; barley 008 to 00s ; oats 128 to 161; beans, 23s to 28s peas Os to Os per quarter. LYNN, JUNE 11.—Wheat 34s to 335, fine 408 to 438; barley Os to os, fine Os to Os per qr. UPPINCHA 31, JUNE 12. —Wheat 37s to 41861; barley 23a to 243 ; oats 16s to 19s ; beans 25s to 27s per quarter. Butter 6d to 7d per lh ; eggs 24 for Is. MELTON Mowa:iAY, JUNE 11.—Wheat 388 Od to 418; barley 23. to 26s ; oats 17s to 20. ; beans 26s to 30s per jr. Butter 841 to 941 per lb ; eggs 24 for Is. Nuwans, JUNE 12 —Wheat, white 44s to 465, extra 488, red 40s to 425, extra ; oat., feed 16s to 20: beans, 27s to 283, extra 29s per qr • Saale and Bohemian malting barley 2:s to 2's Od, Danish and Russian grinding 191 to 201 ; tares, feeding, 20, to 21s per qr ; linseed cake, English 616 s to 71 Os per ton. Gr.asc o Jusig 12.—Coastw.se and from Ireland, the supplies have continued light. From abroad we received about 3,043 quarters of wheat, 190 qu ar t ers of peas, 1,323 quarters of Indian corn, 386 barrels and 738 casks of flour ; besides another cargo of sour from France, not yet reported. At Grangemouth, about 5, 52 quarters of wheat, 375 garters of oats, and 1 44 quarters of peas, arrived from the Continent. There was not a large business transacted during the week; yet there was a fair con sumptive demand for the leading articles of the trade at last Wednesday's currency. This day's market was thinly attended. Wheat and flour sold to a limited extent, without quotable change from last week's rates. Grinding barley brought rather better terms. Oats, oatmeal, and beans unaltered Ist value. Peas for grinding scarce, and the turn dearer. Indian corn 6d to Is lower the 2801 b. EDINBURGH GRAIN AIARKET, JUNE 12.--Wheat _There were 618 qrs of wheat in the market to-day, being 262 qra mere than last week. Prices were 6d down on the top, and lld upon Td t h at e ly:.t a om v p e ap r r a rk g i ce e et — w2 3 o : 6l G q q d r r ss down, barley, w ns n old 6d being nh li ge a r alv l s e eu y r — aq gr semorelTheres 7d tdhwoaewnr down_ n 23 ast q i week. o• r t unsold. Oats—The quantity of oats in the market was 476 Tr, being 70 qrs l ess th an last week. The top pric e was fief doss n, and the average 2d down-169 qrs unsold. Beans—The supply of beans was 21 qrs , Prices were Is up on t h e top, beingand 45 2. qr 2d s t les p s 2 than the las s t ve w r e ag ek e .. 12 tire unsold. Top of Wheat • Oats • 611 lb. 41s Cd " Barl ey 57 lb. 25s Od •" Beans 44iIb. 22s 8d ; -•• s, J U NE 12.--The number of cattle was 431, or 126 l ess t h an l as t w eek. Top price, is tid; 6411 b. 311 6d EDINBURG H CATTI.,; •. MAR BT, current, 73 to Us Od ; middling and inferior sorts, 58 6d to 641 per Dut c h stone. ' At the close a good clearance was effected. The number of sheep and lambs this morning was 2,189, or 173 more than last week. Top price of best mutton, 8d to Od per lb ; current, 5d to sad ; middling and inferior, 4d to 4 id. Lambs, top, 21s ; current, 151 to 18s a head, and down to 1 s. A ll sold. Coax, de 9s tolls ; thirds, is to 9a seconds, 11s6d to 12.6 d ; househol ds 6d JNE 12.—Flour—First Its 6d to 131 ; extra 144 ; meal 7. te t 05 2 8: (MU; what_ meal, t ios O t a o tr o e s tl i p O e s r to evi lO t s . 6 1 1: d linandica,normnper too. Bran 3/15s to 4/10s per ton. Hay—Farmers 361 to 40s; average 388 • dealers 40s to 44 s 0 . 1 ; average 42s per ton. Straw—Farmers 258 to 355 Od; average 281; dealers 00s 04 to 00s Od; average per ton. Bread—Wheaten loaf 8d t o bi d; household iold°°lO °d af 5d to 51d per 41b. Fresh butter, id to Coals-- 9J per lb. Eggs —4s 5d to 48 6d per hundred. Be Ie C4 Newport 14s; Lydney 15 . ; Landore 14s Culrn 13, per ton. Tallow 401 Od to 00s per cwt. Whisky, 25 o. p., 5s lid per imperial gallon. Meat —Beef 441 to 4id ; mutton 5d to 60 veal 4d 1* 5d ; 31d to Od ; bacon 6d to 7d sumps bd per lb. Hops 131 Os per cwt. Bangor slates 3/ 2s 6d to 31 5s per ton. Bark—Barbary 715 s to Si 58; Valonia 14! tool; French 715 a; Spanish 9! per ton. Fleece Wool 10. to los per stone. Hemp 32/ tot 4:1/ per ton. Fish—Scotch herrings 13s to 14a; red ditto 158 to 20s per barrel ; Newfoundland 9' Os to 101 per ton. Timber—Memel, 855 per ton ; deals, first quality, 18e. second quality, 168 per 100. Hides—Market 14a to WI; salted 158 to 21s per cwt ; calf skins lid to lid per lb. Potatoes, white 10d to 12d; Minions 14d to Ed ; Guano— Peruvian, 11l 10. !chams... 9/ per ton ; Tar—A relsangel. Ws per barrel. New South W a l es, was ADVERTI SEm j-- certified Cure of Scr o f u l a b tr y om ilo i‘ l i h r i .. vr A ay:: o o rn i , n o tm t e j n e t r a r n y d s P p i l l a ls in .— s, The following cert ifi cate forwarded to Profe-sor Holloway by Mr. Pinks], chemist, of the same place. " This is to certify that my daughter, aged seven years, was afflicted with scrofula for three years, and tbal, after she had been attended by several respectable practitioners. without success, 1 was induced to try Holloway's Ointment and Pills, which remedies in about three menthe corepletely cured her, and she is now in the best of health. This ran Me verified by various persons in this vicinity, where 1 have raided for twenty-two years. (Signed) 11. Alcorn. Jan. 1, 1849." Sold by all Druggists, and at Professor Holloway's Establish ment, 244. Strand, London, ST. MART, NEWINGTON.—CLOSE or rut POLL. —Yesterday, at five o'clock, the poll on the question of pass ing a vote of censure on the guardians finally closed, when the numbers were—For the amendment 214, Apical it ls 3; majority fur tho sardias 1. ~.. t .'' `/; ~.,i ~ :/ ,d