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THE LONDON GAZETTE, Feb. 7. BUCKINGIIAMPALAL, 3, .16.5 i. The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of Knighthood upon James William Morrison, Esq., late Deputy-Master and Worker of the Queen's Mint. BUCKINGHAM-PALACE, FEB. 3. The Queen was this day plensed to confer the honour of Knighthood upon Alexander Bannerman, Esq., Lieu tenant of Prince Edward's Island. BUCEINGHAM PALACE, FEB. 3. This day had audience of her Majesty— Senor Don Jost de Marcolets, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary from the Republic of Nicaragua, to deliver his credentials ; to which he was introduced by Viscount Palmerston, G.C.8., her Ma jesty's Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, and con ducted by Colonel the Hon. Sir Edward Cast, li,C.H., Master of the Ceremonies. ST. JAMES'S PALACE, FEB. 7. [The following notice should have appeared its the Gazelle of Tuesday, July 3. 1849.] ST. JAMES'S PALACE, JULY 2, 1849. The Queen has been pleased to appoint the Hon. and Rev. Charles Leslie Courtenay to be one of the Chap lains in Ordinary to her Majesty. DOWNING-STREET, FEB. 7. The Queen has been pleased to appoint William Musgrave, Esq., to be First Puisne Judge, and Sydney Smith Bell, Esq., to be Second Puisne Judge, of the Supreme Court of the Settlement of the Cape of Good Hope. 4th Regiment of Light Dragoons—Lieutenant Robert Sutherland, from 9th Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice Mallet, who exchanges, Feb. 7. 9th Light Dragoons—Lieutenant Hugh Mallet, from 4th Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice Sutherland, who exchanges, Feb. 7. 4th Regiment of Foot—Ensign James Barton, from 65th Foot, to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Harris, dismissed the service by the sentence of a Gene ral Court-martial, Feb. 7. 21st Foot—Lieutenant James Vaughan Arthure, from the 97th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Shawe, promoted to Captain, Unattached, Feb. 7. 23d Foot—Major.General George Charles D'Agui lar, C. 8., from 58th Foot, to be Colonel, vice General Sir James Willoughby Gordon, Bart., and G.C.8., de ceased, Jan. 31. 32d Foot—Lieutenant William Rudman to be Adju tant, vice Garforth, who resigns the Adjutancy only, Dr.c. 13, 1850. 54th Foot—Ensign Thom as Blakiston Houston, from 67th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Goddard, appointed to 98th Foot, Feb. 7. 56th Foot—Major William Austin, from half-pay 42d Foot, to be Major (repaying the difference), vice John Wegg, who exchanges; Captain Soulden Oakeley to be Major, by purchase, vice Austin, who retires; Lieute nant Fox Maule Ramsay to be Captain, by purchase, vice Oakeley; Ensign John Warren to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Ramsay, Feb. 7. 58th Foot—Major-General Edward Buckley Wyny ard, C. 8., to be Colonel, vice Major-General D'Aguilar, ap pointed to 23d Foot, Jan. 31. 62d Foot—Lieutenant William Lenox Ingall, to be Captain, by purchase, vice Olpherts, who retires; En sign George Hampden Wilkieson, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Ingall, Feb. 7. 65th Foot—Major-General Samuel Benjamin Auch muty, C. 8., to be Colonel, vice Field Marshal Thomas Grosvenor, deceased, Jan. 31; Gentleman Cadet John Owen Jones Priestley, from the Royal Military College, to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Barton, promoted in 4th Foot, Feb. 7. 82d Foot—Lieutenant John Miller Bannatyne, from the 93d Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice M‘Gregor, who ex cha•iges, Feb. 6. _ _ 93d Foot—Lieutenant Evan Duncan Macpherson to be Captain, without purchase, vice Brevet Major John Joseph Grier, who retires upon full pay as Captain; Lieutenant Alexander Edgar IM•Grego:, from 82d Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Bannatyne, who exchanges; Ensign James Dalzell to be Lieutenant, vice Macpher son; Gentleman Cadet Edward Augustus Stotherd, from the Royal Military College, to be Ensign, vice Dal zell, Feb. 6. 98th Foot—Captain Richard Gloster, from half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice Thomas Charles Ormsby, who exchanges; Lieutenant Lawrence Shadwell to be Captain, by purchase, vice Gloster, who retires; Ensign William Henry Joseph Lance to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Shadwell; Ensign Norris Goddard, from 54th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Lance, Feb. 7. UNATTIMED —Lieu:. Arthur George Shawe, from 21st Foot, to be Captain, without purchase, Feb. 7. STAFF.—Brevet Colonel James Freeth to be Quarter master-General to the Forces, vice General Sir James Willoughby Gordon, Bart. and G.C.8., deceased, Feb. 1; Quartermaster Alexander Cruickshanks, on half-pay, 79th Foot, to be Fort Major at Edinburgh Castle, vice Major Thomas Canch, deceased, Feb. 7. HOSPITAL STAFF.—Deputy Inspector-General of Hos pitals Andrew Smith, M.D., to be Inspector-General of Hospitals and to be Superintendent of the Army Medical Department, Feb. 7. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, FEB. 6. Corps of Royal Engineers—Lieutenant-General Gus tavus Nioolls to be Colonel-Commandant, vice Lieute tenant-General Henry Evatt, deceased, Jan. 28. WHITEHALL, JAN. 25. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Joseph Robinson, of Hereford, in the county of Hereford, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. WHITEHALL, JAN. 30. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Andrew Percival, of Peterborough, in the county of Northampton, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. Adolph Berend and Isidore Bioomenthal, cigar mer chant;, Weymouth-place, New Kent-road. BANKRUPTS. John Skam, builder, Studley-road, Surrey, to surren der Feb. 13, at eleven, and March 13, at twelve, at the Court, 13asinghtill-street. Johnson, official assignee, Basicghall•street; Jones, Quality-court, Chancery-lane. 'John Slater Marshall, boot and shoe dealer, Goswell road, Clerkenwell, Feb. 15, at eleven, and March 29, at twelve, at the Court, Basinghall-street. Pennell, official assignee, Guildhall-chambers, Basinghall-street. Jones, Quality-court, Chancery-hue. Abraham Friedeberg, furrier, Houndsditcb, Feb. 21, at half-past twelve, and March 21, at one, at the Court, Bplinghall-s treat. Whitmo:e, official assignee, Basing hall -street; Vincent and Randall, Castle-street, Holborn. James Dixon, dyer, Morley, Yorkshire, Feb. 28 and March 20, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Young, official assignee, Leeds; Firth, Bristol; Bond and Bar wick, Leeds. John Wyatt, jun., grocer, Milverton, Somersetshire, Feb. 18 and Marcia 11, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court. Hernaman. official assignee. Exeter; Stanley and Wasborongh, Bristol; Stogdon, Exeter. James Shirt, provision dealer, Frodsham, Cheshire, Feb. 24 and March 10, at el,ven, at the Liverpool Dis trict Court. Cazenove, official assignee, Liverpool, Roby, Liverpool; Gregory and Co., Bedford-row. PRICE OF SUGAR. The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, com puted from returns made in the week ending, Feb. 4, 1950, exclusive of Customs Duties paid or payable thereon on the importation thereof into Great Britain : From the British possessions in America 275. 100. per cwt. From the Mauritius ... 28s. 7id. From the East Indies3os. sd. ~ Average price of the three foregoing de scriptions of sugar, jointly, computed as above, and exclusive of duty 295. By authority of Parliament, Efr:kinr BICKNELL, Clerk of the Grocers' Company. Grocers'-hall, Feb. 7. , MARKET IN TELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current, Feb. 7.) SUGAR.—To-day holders of West India Sugar refused to sell under the rates of last Friday, and the quantity on offer is yet limited, but the market has still a quiet tone. Only 187 were sold, making 940 hhds &c. for the week. REFINED.—To• day the home trade demand for Re fined Sugar was limited, and the rates taken for brown lumps were 494 to 49s 6d per cwt. Crushed is offered at former rates, but th ere are f ew b uyers . MAURITIUS.—To-pl ay the public sales of 3,800 bags Manritius went off quietly, but lower ra t es are n ot taken; superior yellow went at 425 to 42s 6d, other sorts 38a to 41s 6d, low 37s to 375 6d, brown 33s to 36: 6d, low 31si to 325, grey 373 to 41s, and grainy 36s to 41a 6d per cwt. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon the quantity of Madras Sugar submitted to public sale was extensive, and amounted to 8,600 bags; prices declined 6d to is per cwt for soft qualities; but ail other kinds went at full terms. Good and fine grocery realized 41s 6d to 42s Gd, grainy yellow ditto 42s 6d to 445, soli brown 27s to 293 6 i, yellow ditto 30s to 335, and bright soft yellow 34s to 378, Bengal realised the former value, and 850 bags sold at 428 to 42s 6d for mid white Benares, and fair yellow 37s per owl. FOREIGN.—To-day there was little passing in foreign Sugar, and at public sale 490 barrels Java were taken in at 373 to 39s 6d for sound, but a few lots of damaged sold at 36s to 386 6d per cwt. Privately 630 bags low brown Java were sold at 323 6d. per cwt. MoLAssEs.—T o .. were taken in at 101ai d a p t e a r u c c iv ti t o . n 60 puns of low Madras CdFFEE--This afternoon there was firmness on the part of holders of Coff ee , and no offered at public were sale. The private purchases er n e e was npon asmall scale for all purposes, but prices rem a i n at 47s 6d to 48s for good ordinary Native Ceylcn. Cocoa.—Holders of West India refuse to sell a re duction, and none has been submitt e d to pu t blic salet a Tthhi; week; the stock also remains less than las e value of Trinidad red is 52s to 5 65 , grey 48s y t e o a 5 r. 3s, and Grenada from 433 to 488 per cwt. The market has a dull appearance for foreign, and prices have a down ward tendency, ruling at 30s to 306 6d for Bahia, and Pars, and at 31s 6d to 32s per cwt for Guayaq u il. TEA.—Tbe business co ncluded in fors has b een at lid to I lid for common and g ood ordinar y , lald to i s I d for blackish leaf, is lid to is 3d for strung,' ,an d is 4d to Is 9d for Pekoe flavour. In the market for green there has been much dulness, suppli es are still extending, and rather lower rates are again ac seded to. Scented and Pekoe Teas met with little at tention, and former rates are ma; to be obtained. The pikes sales yesterday went off with much dulness, and I =9 ooo psekaaes offered, oaly 2,000 sold, chiefly smel boxes of Scented Caper u. is 2d to Is Sid per lb. . SPlarrs.—Ther, iQ a firm market for Jamaica Rum, and a good demand prevails at last week's rate s . The purchases are 500'puns, ord and mid quality 30 to 33 per cent over proof at 2s Sd to 3s, good to fine 33 to 38 over 38 2d to 4s, and choice sorts 48 2d to 4s 6d, but sorts' from 35 to 3s GJ are moot in request. Leeward Island is wanted at la 3d to is 9ei proof, few part-ils are in the market. Demerara is in good demand, and former rates are w ell supported, about 250 hds have been sold at 23 6d to 2s 10d for 30 to 40 per cent over proof. Several buyers of East India at la 6d to Is 7d proof; the supply at market is scanty. Brarlidy is not cheaper, but the home and shipping demaoci is limited. Cognac brands of the vintage of 1350 at 4s 4d to 4s 6d. 1849 ditto 4s 73 to 4s 9d, 1848 1:.,t0 43 10.1 to 56, 1547 iito 5. 2LI 5,5 4,1, L.:1:1 infea;- sorts 3s to 4; 3d. Geneva is yep 1.; 7d to 13 Bd, is 9d to 2s. British made Spirit 9s 8d to 9s 9d, and Gin 8s 5d for 22 per cent. under proof. RICE.—The best descriptions of East India have been in good demand this week, avid realized the full value, with only a limited supply. In inferior white and yellow sorts operations are yet upon a small scale for shipping and home trade purposes, although there are sellers rather under previous moderate rates. At auction 4,762 bags Madras were all sold at 93 6d to lOs fur good clean white Bengal grain, but 6,638 bags pinky were only in part disposed of at 7s 6d to 8s for common, 8s 6d to 95 for mid and good, and damaged 5s 6d to 7s 6d. Of fine white Bengal 682 bags realized Ils 6d for sound, but 1,027 bags mid were taken i❑ at lOs to lOs 6d per cwt. There are sellers of Pearl Barley by private treaty at Bs, but few buyers are to be met with. Cleaned Patna is from Ils to 18s, and there is a free sale—town dressed Carolina at 20s to 265, and America at 18s to 19s per cwt. For Sego the demand is better, and 1,062 cases realized 19s to 20s 6d for mid and flue small pearl. For Sago Flour 14s 6d to 15s per cwt have been paid for some parcels. Of Tapioca 135 bas at auction sold at 2id to 4d far fair to good middling; 470 tins 19 brls St. Vincent's Arrowroot 6d to Bid ; 152 brls Jamaica 4-id to sd, and 5 cases good East India 4d per lb. SPICES.—An improvement has taken place in the demand for Pimento, and prices are kd to id per lb higher than last week. Several parcels have been sold privately; at auction 116 bags realized 5d to 5-0 for mid and good. Ginger met with little attention, but prices are not lower, as the supply is small. At auc tion 75 cases sold at 505 6d to 70s 6d for common and middling. Jamaica is held for 21 10s to 31 lOs for ord and fine, and export sorts of East India 18s to 30s. Of Cassia Lignea the supply is trifling, and 90s to 1003 is the value, but little desire is evinced to operate. Cassia Buds are quoted at 108 s to 110 s. Nutmegs have been in good demand at full rates, and 30 cases at auction sold at 2s 6d to 2s 8d for small brown, and 2s 9d to 3s for mid. The value of better sorts is 3s 2d to 4s. Mace in better de• wand, and stiffer rates paid. At auction 16 cases sold at 2s 3d to 2s 5d for mid and good. In black Pepper the private sales have been small, and rather lower rates are taken. At auction 1,308 bags Malabar were sold at 3*d to 3-id. The value of Sumatra is 3 1 id to 3ici. White is less wanted, and 40 bags at :auction sold at 6id for mid, being rather cheaper; for better aorta rates rule at id to 9d. Cloves are not offered at any further de cline; sales are upon a small scale, Bourbon at 6d to 64d, and Penang 9d to is 4d. Only trifling orders have been executed for Cinnamon, first sort at Is 9d to 3s 6d, second ditto Is 5d to 2s 6d, third and fourth is to 2s 3d per lb. INDIGO.—The quarterly sales of East India will com mence on Tuesday next, and the quantity declared is large, amounting to 16,413 chests. Spanish is also held with firmness; although 600 Serons are declared for public sale. The private purchases in East India Indigo this week are 1,000 chests at from last sales' rates to 2d advance. OlLS.—Prices have rather improved for Linseed Oil this week, and at 33s to 33s 3d per cwt, the home trade demand has been good; for exportation there are, how ever, few buyers at present. A fair business has been concluded for delivery at 33s 6d, and with not free sellerE. Rape Seed Oil is not much wanted, and prices continue on the deeline; pale selling at 36s 6d, brown 34s to 355, and foreign Refined 37s to 37s 6d. Palm is yet held with firmness and is wanted; fine quality is not offered under 295. For Olive the market remains in a dull state, with Sellers of Gallipoli at 431 to 431 10s, and other descriptions at 411 to 421 lOs per tun. Cocoa Nut met with little at tention. Holders, however, are not disposed to further give way in price ; and at auction 100 hhds of Ceylon were taken in at 301 per ton. Although Seal is ob tainable under last week's rates, dealers have operated with reluctance, pale at 341 to 34/ 10s, and other sorts 32l to 33/ 10s. Operations in Cod have been limited at 381 to 38l 10s. Southern has been purchased with caution, and the value of low to fine is from 331 to 35/. In Sperm sales have been limited, and the rates accepted for fiae are 851 to 861 per tun. The value of Headmatter is 921 to 941 per tun. TALLOW.—This afternoon the quantity of Tallow offered at public sale was larger than for some time past, still the chief part sold, 1,500 pkgs Australian at from 35s to 378 9d, 440 pkgs South American at 35s 6d to 37s 3d, and 800 brls stranded Petersburgh, 36s 6d to 37s 9d per cwt. LAW INTELLIGENCE; COURT OF QUEENS BENCH, Feb. 7. (Sittings in Banco.) RICHARDSON V. WODSON. This was an action for a libel published in the Yo, Wire man newspaper. The plaintiff was an attorney, and appeared to have been a director in two or three companies in which Mr. Hudson was the chairman of the directors. The alleged libel referred to the connexion of the plaintiff with Mr. Hudson in certain railway companies, and declared that "it would appear as if a charter had existed for defalcation, mis management, and corruption in companies over which they had control." It then went on to allege that the plaintiff was guilty of corruption, and speaking of his situation as attor ney for the Union Bank at York, said, "It is our opinion that such a man is not to be trusted in a responsible situa tion." The defendant pleaded a justification, in which, for the purpose of justifying the imputations of the libel, he set out a variety of facts connected with the railway companies in which the plaintiff and Hudson had been con cerned. The finding of the jury was that mismanagement, artifice, and defalcation did exist in every company over which Hudson and the plaintiff had control; but the jury negatived the allegation of individual corruption charged against the plaintiff. On this finding the verdict was en tered for the defendant, with leave for the plaintiff to move to set aside this verdict, and enter it for the plaintiff. Mr. ATHERTON and Mr. E. PAIGE showed cause against the rule, and contended that the finding might be treated as divisible, and that on the finding that corruption ex isted in the companies over which the plaintiff and Hudson had control, the defendant was entitled to a verdict. Mr. Watson, in support of the rule, was not called on. ' The COURT expressed a clear opinion that the verdict must be entered generally for the plaintiff. The part of the plea on which the finding was in favour of the defendant was on an immaterial issue, and could not be allowed to destroy the I effect of finding for the plaintiff on an issue which was material, and which related to libellous matter. The de fendant ought to have pleaded two distinct pleas, instead of pleading one general justification; and it would be unfair to allow him the advantage of having a verdict entered in his favour, merely because an immaterial issue, which he ought not to have put on the record, was found for him, when the material and libellous charge was distinctly negatived by the jury. The role for entering the verdict for the plaintiff must be made absolute. CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT. NEW COURT. Henry Beaver and 1 homa9 Hodgson were charged with burglary in the house of George Wells, No. 3, Lemon Valley, Rotherhithe, and stealing a petticoat, &c., the property of a lodger. Beaver pleaded Guilty. The robbery was perpetrated on the night of the 14th January. Both the prisoners were afterwards met by a policeman with bundles, which were found to contain the stolen articles. Beaver was taken; the other escaped. The questfon raised for the defence was whether the prisoner Hodgson was really one of the parties seen by the police. A witness was called to prove an alibi. Prisoner lodged in the house of a person named Webb, alias Fin lason. who said tnat Hodgs,n was iu bed on the night of the 17th or 18th (the robbery was committed on the 14th). Guilty.— fen years' transportation. The prisoners were frequenters of a notorious " kit chen" in Fox-court, of which the man Webb (who has g. number of aliases), who came up to prove the alibi, is the principal. BAN( OF ENGLAND. (From last night's Gazette.) An Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria, cap. 32 ~fer the Week ending on Saturday, the Ist day of February 1851. 18817 z DEPARTMENT. X. Notes i55ued........ 27,704,515 Government debt .. 11,015,100 Other securities .. .. 2,984,900 Gold coin and bullion 13,674,848 Silver bullion .....• 29,667 IMPERI A L PARLIAMENT. HOCSE 0? LORDS, Feb. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woo] sack at Five o'clock. PAPAL AGGRESSION. The Earl of BANDON presented several petitions from places in the county of Cork against Papal aggres sion, and praying that any measure introduced might be extended to Ireland. The Earl of ENSKILLEN presented several peti tions from various parishes in Ireland to the same effect. The Earl of EGLINTON presented several petitions to the same effect. The Earl of CARLISLE presented a petition to the Name effect. The Bishop of MANCHESTER presented several petitions against Papal aggression. The Earl of ST. GERMANS gave notice that he should, on Monday, move for the appointment of a Com mittee to consider the complaints of certain persons employed in the inland department of the Post-effice. EXTENSION OF THE JURISDICTION OF THE COUNTY COURTS—LAW OF EVIDENCE. Lord BROUGHAM explained that he intended, on the motion for the second reading of this Bill, to amend the law of evidence which he had introduced on the first night of the session. He proposed to carry out the principle of Lord Penman's Bill, taking away ob jections to evidence on the ground of character or in terest, by enabling parties to the suit themselves to be called and examined either by themselves or by the ad verse party. He would move the second reading of that Bill at whatever time should best suit the convenience of hie Noble and Learned Friend on the Woolsack. Some years since, in consequence of their not having then the benefit of county courts, it became necessary to extend to the pro vinces the bankruptcy jurisdiction, which had been found to work well in the metropolis. Now we had the county courts established throughout the country, and Lord Lyndhurst had, on introducing his measure for ex• tending the bankruptcy court jurisdiction to the country, declared that such extension was necessary, because they had no county courts. The bankruptcy system ofjurisdiction had worked admirably both in the metropolis and in the country ; its superiority in the country districts was even more manifest than it had been in the metropolis. But the establishment of the county court jurisdiction bad at last come, and great satisfaction had been expressed in all parts of the coun try at the extension of their jurisdiction last year. In five years something like a million and a half of suits had been tried; and under the Extension Act of suits between 201. and 501., no less than four thousand suits had been tried during the course of the last five months. He had been informed by a very learned county court judge, that of those 4,000 suits the greater number would never have found their way to Westminster Hall, but would not have been tried at all but for the exis tence of those county courts, and that thus but for those courts justice would have been defeated. The blocking up of a court on account of the great expense attending suits was in fact a denial of justice, and that denial had peen remedied by the institution of their county courts. It was a matter of great regret that these courts bad not been instituted 17 years ago. Another most invaluable part of the county court system was that which enabled parties by consent to give the Court jurisdiction in cases of greater amount than 501. But there was one most important jurisdiction which was not exercised by the county courts. He should wish to see those courts have a reconcilement jurisdiction, which was found to work admirably in Belgium, Denmark, and in every country in which courts of reconcilement existed. He w as now about to take another step for the extension of the jurisdiction of County Courts, and to transfer to them the hankruptcy jurisdiction, which would enable them to effect a saving of the expense of the whole of the bankruptcy staff, except the official assignees. He pro posed that gradually the whole of the bankruptcy ju risdiction should be absorbed: in the County Court juris diction. He wished to make the change safely, and at the same time effectually. He brought forward this measure now, in order that knowing that such a measure was in contemplation which would effect a saving of 42,0001. a year, the Government might not fill up vacancies as they occurred. He saw no reason why, if they had efficient County Court judges in the capital, the bank ruptcy jurisdiction might not be transferred to them for the metropolis, as well as to the County Court judges in the provinces. He proposed to extend the plan of requiring the proceedings in County Courts to he on stamped paper, instead of paying those expenses in fees, which would save the expense of treasurers, inasmuch as by the adoption of that method the whole of the fees would be collected without expense by the Commissioners of Inland Revenue. The average of bankrupts during five years, excluding the years 1847 and 1848, had been 1,304, but during the last year the bankruptcies had been only 800. A por tion of that diminution was attributable to the in creased prosperity of the country, but a portion of it was also attributable to the institution of the county courts. The county court judges might exercise their jurisdic tion either as they now did, not being fixed to the spot, or fix them to the spot;; ho should prefer that they should not be more frxed than they now are, because it was important that they should keep up their constant communication with Westminster Hall. The Noble Lord concluded by moving that the Bill be read a first time. The LORD CHANCELLOR had for many years received acts of kindness from his Learned Friend, and he had never felt more obliged to him than on the present occasion for introduc ing this measure for the amendment of the law. He should be happy to give his Learned Friend every facility, but his Learned Friend could not expect him at once to commit himself by giving an opinion of the measure which had been just introduced, ina.much as he had not yet had an opportunity of considering its pro visions. Lord BROUGHAM did not desire his Noble Friend to aster one tittle of the Bill; all he was anxious for was that his Noble Friend should take it under his care. The bankruptcy law, as it at present stood, was not under stood by any one, not even by the judges, and the result was that injustice was dune. There could be no wonder at the delays in the Court of Chan cery when the judges were unable to understand the law of bankruptcy as they had been propounded and placed on the statute-book of the Legislature. He was sorry to say it, but such was the tact, the Acts of the Legislature with respect to bankruptcy were not under stood by the Legislature. He eould conceive nothing wor,e than a Legislature passing Acts which no one could understand. Lord CRAN WORTH considered the subject of deep importance. As he understood the measure it was not one to alter the law as it at present stood, but to make a difference in the txecutive that were to carry it out. He agreed with his Noble Friend (Lord Brougham) that the operation of the County Courts had been most bent fici,l to the country. No less than upwards of three million of causes had been tried before those courts since their institution, and very few appeals had Ewen made against their decisions. One thing that made those courts popular was the facility they gave for viva voce evidence. After a few othzervations from Lord BROUGHAM, the Bill was order. d to be read a first time, and the second reading WAS postponed sine die. ANSWER TO TilE ADDRESS. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER brought up her Driajesty's answer to the Address which was as follows: " I thank you for your loyal and dutiful Address. I rely wirh ceinfidonce ou your assistance to maintain the rights of my Crown and cordial unity with a measure calculated to strenghen and unite our institutions." THE SUN, £27,704,515 I £27,701,515 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. Dated the 6th day of February, 1851. BANKING DKPAITIEEN T. Proprietora'capltal•• 14,553,000 Rest • 3,235,113 Public deposits (in cluding Exchequer, Commissioners of National Debt, Sav ings-banks, and Di vidend accounts).. 6,051,128 Other deposits • • • • • • 9,787,615 Seven day and other Bills .... 1,182,602 ,Government smut- -- ties(including Dead Weight Annuity).. 14,145,696 Other securities • . 11.946,360 Notes Gold and silver coin • . 642,942 £34,803,458 434,809,458 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. 1851. Dated the Gth day of February, ELOPEMENT —On Friday morning, a young lady, the daughter of a gentleman of great wealth, and possessing considerable property in her own right, was missed from her home in this place. Inquiries were instituted, and it was ascertained that she had eloped with a" dashing young car penter," and that the couple h a d b een safe l y un i te d in Hy men's bonds, in a neighbouring town.— Cheltenham Journal. A DEVONSHIRE CllsT OM. — Allhallows maidens can claim 10s. on being married; and on Monday last, Church warden Balkwill convened a meeting to consider the claims of two maidens who had been married_ e out of service in the „ parish. The fund is called B . yys' Gift," because one Richard Bees, a rightworthiavelcpiti poor zen , maidensknowin t gt hre h e ec t o o m , comfort of the marriage state, and to a property to set up youn g w N omen o ela in im the ha b s ol b y e an en d m c a o d m e for fo t ; comfort able estate of matrimony. - 61., which , s y e i v s era e l lu y a e l a ly rs, d a i n v d i d t e h d e b s e u t m w e i e n n h t a h n e d talvmountedo applicant to s Times. ACCIDENTS WHILE HUNTING...--' We regret to have stehrisiOuwsecehkartahcetetr swkboi which h orecordingoccurred i t n w a o gallant accidents run u o f r i a t t h h er Mr.a Marriott's pack on S a t ur d ay last. It appears the hounds had l a id on to a f ox which on two former occasions o u h n a d d s stood up nobly b e f ore th em, notw i thstan di ng th e ir speed and staunchness of scent, p reserv i ng hi s b rus h un touched in triumph; and the field was in full swing after him, for the third time, in the neighbourhood of Notley. Captain Elton, of Chipping Hill, a veteran in whom 73 years have not in the slightest degree dimmed the spirit of the chase, was maintaining his place among the foremost, with his charac teristic boldness, which defied all obstacles of high bars and hedge rows, when his horse unfortunately slipped, and fell, pitching the rider on his head, and then, it is supposed, fall ug upon him, produced a comps and fracture of the left leg. The gallant captain remained insensible for a quarter of an hour; but the surgical aid of Mr. Tomkin was called in, and the hunt will be happy to hear that the veteran is doing well, as there is not one who would not regret that this accident should lead to his permanent withdrawal from the field. The other mishap occurred to H. Bullock, Esq.,' who, from some cause which we have not heard explained, fell,*and dislocated his collarbone; but here again the ser vices of Mr. Tomkin were called in, and no serious effects fonl the igjury....Zssex Herald, are likely to result LONDON, PAPAL AGGRESSION. Lord STANLEY, referring to what had been said by the Lord Privy Seal last night, wished to know whether any communication had been made to the Noble Lord by the Pope stating that he had measures in view that would affect this country, and whether he had any objection to them. He also wished to knew whether such communication had been made known to Cardinal Wiseman? The Earl of MINTO did not think that any such communication bad been made to him. He had some faint recollection of something being said about ecclesi astical dignity, but he did not recollect exactly what it was. Lord STANLEY thought the statement of the Noble Lord most unsatisfactory. After some further observations the subject dropped, and the House adjourned. HO USE OF COMMONS, Feb 7. The SPEAKER took the Chair a few minutes to Four o'clock. REPLY OF HER MAJESTY TO THE ADDRESS OF THE HOUSE. Mr. LASCELLES, the Comptroller of her Majesty's Household, appeared at the bar, and addressing the Speaker, said, I have presented to her Majesty the Address of this Hon. House. to which her Majesty has been pleased to return the following answer:— "I have received with much satisfaction your loyal and dutiful address. Your expression of attachment to my throne is very gratifying to me, and you may be assured of my determination to maintain the independ ence and uphold the constitutional liberties of my kingdom." OFFICE OF COUNSEL TO THE SPEAKER, Mr. WILSON PATTEN moved for a select com mittee, to consider the mode in which the duties hereto fore attached to the office of counsel to the Speaker, with regard to the private business, shall be performed; and to propose such regulations re specting private business generally as they may think fit: -- Mr. Labouchere, Mr. Vernon Smith, Mr. Bernal, Sir George Clerk, Mr. Evelyn Deni son, Mr. Henley. Sir John Yarde Buller, Sir Robert Ferguson, Mr. Hume, Mr. Sotheron, Mr. Broth er t on , Sir John Duckworth, Mr. Deedes, Mr. Bramston, and Mr. Wilson Patten. The Hon. Member said the House would recollect that a Committee was appointed last ses• sion to consider in what way private business should be conducted during the present sPssion, f e h: rwa came l o a n e to o f e r c m o c s m e r m t o a e f i d i p n r r g o e c s and the Com ofw m h i i t z,e t nthe d u lband m - ing v , wereh n i a c m h clni and the adoption of oth?r forms of proceeding not sub ject to those objections. One of the offices, the duties of which were detailed by the Committee, was that of counsel to the Speaker. That office was of the greatest possible importance, and required not only considerable experieno( , but con biderable legal knowledge on thg- part of the person who reasons he had explained yester da y , th ought fit to had to fill it. Toe Fist Lord of the Trealur ) , f or the abolish the office, but however advantageous such a course might be to the public in a pecuniary point of view, it had involved the House in considerable diffi culties. The object, then. fore, which he had in moving the appointment of this Committee, was for the purpose of considering in what way those tHficulties might be fed. Mr. V. SMITH said the recommendation of the Committee referred to 4 the Honoukahin Member, and over which he (Mr. Smith) presided, was that on a vacancy occurring either in the office of counsel to the Speaker, or in that of chief clerk to the House, the question of the re-appointment of counsel to the Speaker should be considered. The intention of the Ct,mmittee was, that some g.ntleman should be appointed clerk of the Those who would alto be capable of acting as counsel to th. Speaker. Mr. LABOUCHERE said he entirely approved of the motion, as he was anxious that the whole subject should be considered not only on the ground of public economy, but what was of more importance, the due conducting of private business. Alter a few words from Mr. SLANEY and Mr. J. STUART, the motion was agreed to and the Committee appointed. SATURDAY EVENING, BOARD OF TRADE. Mr. DISRAELI intimated that it was his intention to renew his motion to inquire into the constitution of the Board of Trade. PAPAL AGGRESSION. Petitions against Papal aggression were presented from places in Essex by Sir It. Inglis; by Mr. Frewen, from places in Susses; by Mr. Alderman llumphery, from Southwark; by Sir William Verner, from Armagh; by Mr. Plumptre, from places in Kent; by Mr. Fuller, from places in Essex; by Mr. Mundy, from Shirley, in Derbyshire; and by Mr. Alderman Sidney, from Stafford. REPEAL OF THE WINDOW-TAX. Petitions against the window -tax were presented by , Mr. C. LussuNGToss, from the Westminster Reform As sociation, and by Mr. HOLLAND, from the Mayor, Alder men, and burgesses of Lichfield. Several other petitions were also presented against the window-tax. Colonel SIBTHORP presented a petition praying for the abolition of the attorneys' certificate duty. The Marquis of GRANBY presented a petition from the Corporation of Stamford against the Papal ag gression. Sir B. HALL presented a petition to the same effect, signed by 14,500 of the inhabitants of St. Pancras. LANDLORD AND TENANT LAW IN IRELAND. Mr. J. O'CONNELL wished to ask the question, of which he had given notice, viz., as to whether it was the intention of her Majesty 's Government to bring in a Bill to amend the relations between landlord and tenant in Ireland; and if so, at what time it will be in troduced? Sir W. SOMERVILLE said that it was his intention at present to introduce some measure upon the subject but what the particular nature of the measure might be or at what time it would be introduced, he could not at the present time possibly say. STAMP ACT FOR IRELAND. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL wished to ask if it was the intention of the Government to bring in a Bill to emend the Stamp Act of last session (13 and 14 Vic., c. 97), or so much of it as confines the trial of all Stamp appeals to her Majesty's Court of Exchequer at West minster, instead of allowing those arising in Ireland to be, tried in that country ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he was sorry to say he could not answer the Hon. and Learned Member's question satisfactorily. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. Mr. DISRAELI said that, seeing that the Hon. Mem ber for East Yorkshire (Mr. Cayley) was in his place, he would beg to ask him a question, and trusted to re ceive a favourable reply. He had himself given notice of a motion for Tu e sday week f considering the distress which prevailed in the agricultural districts, as it had been remarked upon in her Majesty's Speech. But the Hun. Member (Mr. Ca} ley) had preceded him with a notice for the s one day, tor the consideration of the aho• lition of the malt-tax. Now, as the motion bf Thich he had given notice embraced the while of the suffering endured under the malt-tax, the question which he de sired to ask was, whether the Hon. Member would give way to him and postpone his motion; and he was induced to ask this question because he believed that it would teed greatly to the convenience of the House if the Hon. Member would postpone the motion of which he had given notice.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. CAYLEY said that, seeing the experience which he had obtained last session of the result which occurred when an independent Member consented to postpone his motion; and that if he once allowed an interruption of his proceedings there was very little doubt but that he would find himself postponed fur five months—(Hear, hear, and laughter)—it was with considerable difficulty that he prevailed upon himself to yield to the request which had just been made to him—(Hear, hear, and cheers)—yet, seeing the truth of his observations, and considering his position, he could not do otherwise than ask the Honourable Member for Buckinghamshire (Mr. Disraeli) if, in the event of his own motion failing, he would himself undertake the malt tax? Mr. DISRAELI thankfully accepted the concession of the Hon. Member, and, as it might tend to the con venience of the House, he would now state the sub stance of the motion which he intended to propose. It was to this effect—" Seeing that the distress which so extensively prevailed in the agricultural districts had been markedly noticed in her Majesty's Speech, it was the hope of the House that her Majesty's Ministers would shortly introduce some measure for the relief of that distress."—“Haar. hear, and cheers.) DIFFERENTIAL DUTIES LEVIED ON BRITISH SHIPPING IN SPANISH PORTS. Mr. ANDERSON wished to ilisc7citit Palmer ston, whether he has yet been able to induce the Go vernment of Spain so far to reciprocate the commercial policy of this country as to abandon the levying of higher duties in the ports of Spain and her dependen cies on goods, when imported and exported in British ships, than when imported and exported in Spanish ship? Lord PALMERSTON said that several communica tions had passed between the two countries, but nothing conclusive had yet resulted. Mr. ANDEIiSON then gave notice that on the 18th of February he should bring forward a motion with a view to the abolishing of such differential duties. ADVANCES TO IRELAND. Mr. SADLEIR wished to ask the Attorney-General if he intended to introduce before Easter the Securities for Advances (Ireland) Bill, and a Bill, to amend the En cumbered E,tstes Act? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that it was his intention to introduce a Bill on the subject, but could not say at what time he should do so. FIRE AT Ti iE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT. Mr. LAWLESS said that, seeing the Noble Lord at the head of the Woods and Forests in his place, he would repeat the questions which he had put last night. Lord SEYNIOUR said that before he could an swer the questions he must make a few observations. He had seen Mr. Barry to-day, and that gentleman said he had not been able to ascertain the cause of the fire. There was a great accumulation of wood in the tower. The left of the tower, were the fire broke out, had been locked all the morning, but when the fire was dis covered it was unlocked. With regard to the ne at question, sa far as the tower was concerned, all the wood had been entirely removed.—(Laughter.) Thera were eight tanks for high and low water service about the building. Of the four fcr high water service two of them were erepry—(Laugher)—whil e the water in the other two was nut available at the time the fire was raging.—(Laughter.) The low water tanks ought to have been chsrgea, hut Mr. Barry said they were not.—(Laughter.) There wers two reservoirs available for the (louse, one in Orange -street and the other on Constitution hill, but they were too far cif, and Mr. Barry thonght it would be necessary to have another capable of suppling water copiously in case of fire aboui, the House. —(Laughter.) ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS. Sir B. HALL wished to ask the Right Honourable Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department a question relating to the Ecclesiastical Courts of this country. It would be remembered that last session he alluded to an appointment which had been made by the Archbishop of Canterbury to a reversionary office in the Prerogative Court worth 10,000/., and to a similar appointment by another dignitary of the Church, and he wished now to know whether it was the intention of Go.. vernment to introduce this session any measure to remedy those evils, and generally to reform the system of our Ecclesiastical Courts? He also wished to ask the Right Honourable Baronet whether it was his intention to bring in any Bill for dividing large and populous parishes? Sir G. GREY said a Bill was under consideration with reference to the Ecclesiastical Courts, but he could hold out no hope when it would be brought in. With regard to dividing populous parishes, Government did intend to propose a Bill on the subject. CHOLERA IN JAMAICA. Mr. GOULBURN wished to know if the Colonial Department bad any objection to lay on the table any returns they might have received relative to the progress of the cholera i❑ Jamaica; and whether it was the in tention of Government to take steps to relieve the colony in any way. Mi. HAWES had no objection to produce all the papers on the subject; but with regard to the second question, all he could say was the Noble Lord at the head of the Colonial Department was in communication with the colony upon the matter of relief, and everything would be done that was in the power of the Government, BOARD OF TRADE RETURNS. Mr. BERRIES wished to ask the Right Hon. the President of the Board of Trade when the usual monthly returns of trade and commerce were likely to be forthcoming. Perhaps, at the same time, it would be as well for him to intimate that it was not his intention to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice for Tuesday next. Mr. LABOUCHERE had made inquiries on the sub ject of the returns, and he hoped to be able to lay them before the House on Monday. EC CLESI S TIC A L MATTERS. Sir R. H. INGLIS, adverting to Sir B. Hall's question reported above, said the Hon. Baronet was mistaken in supposing the appointments to which he referred were sinecures, and so he thought the Right Hon. the Secre pary of State tor the Home Department eculd c snfiim. Sir GEORGE GREY said he had certainly received a communication trom the Archbishop of Canterbury to that eff, et. ADJOURNMENT OF THE ROUSE. Oo tlle motion of Mr. C. LEWIS, it was agreed that :he House at its rising should adjourn to Monday. PAPAL AGGRESSION. LORD JOHN RUSSELL'S MEASURE. Lord J. RUSSELL, amid the most profound silence rose at twelve minutes past five o'clock, to ask for leave pursuant to the notice he had given, to b r i ng in a Bill to prev en t th e ass umption of certain eecle-, siastical titles in respect of places in the United Kingdom. The Noble Lord said: . : Mr. Speaker, —It is with considerable anxiety that I now approach the important subject which I have promised to bring FEBRUARY 8, 1851. under the consideration or the . 1 1-icuie. The deep in e,t wi)ich is lelt, :di i L cc,u t yby 2,11 t:las:,es of v:e; tilt, tut-Leto:l6 pet Lions that have ber•t scriti!ci to this House, praying the House to resist any encroachment on the part of a foreign Sovereign; the addresses which have been presented to the Crown—all make it a matter of deep responsibility to undertake the task of bringing such a question under the notice of the House. Sir, that erxiety is net direinithed, but increas by the , symptoms which appeared the other erening of the dis position of a great portion of the House with respect to the motion I laid on the table of the House. One Hon. Gentleman (the Member for Sheffield), who spoke on the motion for the Royal Address, warned me not to take a retrograde step on this subject—(Hear)—and another Hon. Gentleman (the Member fur Buckingham shire) warned me, on the other side, not to intro duce anything less than a complete code to regulate all the relations which may occur be tween the C,Urt of Rome and her Majesty's subjects in the United Kingdom. Now, Sir, with respect to the first observation, that I should not take a retrograde step, I will say that the only retrograde step I pro pose to take is that natural action of a man who finds a blow aimed at his head, and who steps back nerds and raises his arm and puts himself in a posture of defence.—(Cheers.) With regard to the other obser vation, I will not now enter into the consideration of why I differ from the Hon. Gentleman, but in the course of the speech that I shall, have to make I shall have to address throe observations to the House which appear to me to belong to the subject, and state those motives which induce the Government not to pursue that course which he has suggested as the most proper. Sir, in bringing this subject before the House I beg the House to recollect some of the circumstances which have occurred very recently. In the course of the last year the nomination of an archbishop in Ireland by the Roman See was made in an unusual manner.— (Hear, hear.) It was generally understood, and has never been contradicted, that those who usually elected to the office of archbishop en the part of the Roman Catholics of Ireland had sent three names, but that instead of any of the learned ecclesiastics being chosen for that (Mee, a clergyman who had been long resident in Rome, and who was more conversant with the habits and opinions of Rome than the state and cir cumstances of It eland,was appointed by the Pope to assume the office of Archbishop in Ireland. No doubt that ecclesiastic showed very clearly that it was not his in tention to follow the usual practice which bad hitherto been pursued by Archbishop Murray and others, of put ting himself in communication with the Government in relation to any matters necessary to be transacted with re gard to the Irish people. Presently we found theta synod :red been called at Thueles. It was stated that at the synod a question ens put whether or not an address be issued to the people of Ireland, and that that motion was car ried by a majority of 13 to 12, the majority of one con sisting of that very person who had been sent over from Rome, and who was entirely un acquainted with the state of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) If the proceedings of that synod had related only to the internal discipline of the Roman Catholic religion—if it had been flown teat its proceed ings only referred to matters that required alter ation and amendment in the Roman Catholic Church —however unusual, and entirely without precedent the assembling of a synod might be—for no such thing had taken place since the time of the revolution—l should net have telt surprise at the manner in which the synod had acted. But a great portion of theuddtess which the synod issued was taken up by two subjects. 'the one was the danger of the system of education by the €ntablishment of colleges in Ireland by her Alejeszy's Go vernment, in conforisaity with en Act of Parliament, and it stated that the principles upon which those colleges were 'established were principles which were opposed to the inflexible nature of the Roman Catholic religion, and it was pointed out in the address ihat these colleges could not exist without destroying the morals and religinn of the Roman Catholic youth. !he oi her part of the a dress was taken up with a descrip tion of the state of the poorer portion of the peasantry of Irel and, with respect to the manner. in which their landlords had dealt with them, and no' language was omitted that could excite their feelings against the owners of land w.ho had enforced the process of the law against their tt flouts. Now, Sir, lam not going on the present octal ion to enter into a defence of the establishment of the Queen's Colleges in Ireland, nor to discuss the questio,a whether the Irish landlords have acted with discretion iar humanity in asserting their legal rights, but I wish to point out to this House the most im portant circumstance., that on a question of occupancy of land, the synod, composed entirely of Roman Catholic ecclesiastics, from which all the laity were excluded— that Synod had thought proper, at their first meeting, to issue an address to the Irish people on what was their duty to, and what ought to be their conduct towards, theirttlandlords.—(Laud cheers.) I would ask the Honourable and Learned Member for Sheffield whether this was en ttertaining and considering purely spiritual concerns? --(Loud cheers.) I would ask him whether this House tend the Government of this coun try can see a Catholic archbishop appointed and a synod called together—whose first proceeding was to hold forth to the people o IF Ireland, is opposition to an Act of Parliament which h3d been passed for the purpose of educating the peop'e of Ireland, for the purpose of educating the poorer and middle classes of society, and also exciting the , minds of the peasantry of Ireland against their landloisla?—(Hear, hear.) Sir, this is an instance at all events; to show that the synod did not deal with purely spiritual matters. The interference of clerical persons with the temporal and civil concerns of the State has been tatempted for the first time by this synod in Ireland, :not as a beginning only, but as a beginning to be me intained and followed up, and to be asserted on tuture t mcasions with more potent effect.— (Loud cheers.) Th ere is a part of this transaction to which I will direct the attention of the House. I re ceived a copy of n eis address, and on the title-page it was signed by the Archbishop of Armagh as Primate of Ireland. Abc nt the same time I received a communication from the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, a communication to the (AL ct that the matter had been referred to those con . versant with the law, and they had said they could not tio anything in the matter, as the words did not appear upon any document sent to them. I will now refer to an occurrence which took place some time since in Sardinia, It had been the law of that country that ecciesiastics were not liable to civil triounals. Some time ago, the Sardinian Parliamett at Turin altered this law, making the ecclesias tics amenable to civil courts. One of the Ministers who had brought in this law soon after wards became dam serously ill ; being questioned on the subject by the Archbishop of Turin, he replied in a manner which was not satisfactory, and it is known that he died without receiving the sacraments of the Church, in tact as o tie out of the pale of the Church. That is an instance of spiritual power and spiritual censure for the purdote of controlling anti directing a Minister of the Crown and a Member of Parliament, in his conduct mirthh ig to that Ceown and Parliament. — (Hear, hear.) I beg the House to observe these things because they are not altogether foreign to us; they may not yet be introduce el to us this year, but we are, told in that country to which I have alluded that the doctrines of the Church of Pewee are inflexible, their maxims unchangeable.—(tle or, hear.) They may not thick it expedient to introd cice such practices at present into this country, but they retain in their own hands the power of app;yieg those measures and that spiritual power. About the s awe time a manifestation of Romish interference took pierce in Belgium, a Government which had shown more fav our to the independence of the Ro man Catholic body than any other country in Europe, because they had allowed the Raman Catholics to enjoy their right ,c,f appointment to benefices, while the civil Governmen it entirely refrained from interfering with the nomination.; of the ecclesiastical body. The ecclesiastics, by exp .clients of their own, had managed to get the direction of the educational system of Belgium into their hands; and 'when the civil Governmeet had taken some steps to interfere with this subject a document was circulated by the ecclesiastics bearing upon the question at the time when a n election was anticipated for the purpose of influench en the chambers. The chambers, however, came to no ' decision unfavourable to the Go vernment, and it wets thought necessary to instruct the Belgian Minister alt Rome to assure the Secretary of State that no disrespect bad been intended to the Court of Rome. Now I come to the pro ceeding in this cottatry. At the end of September, a letter apostolic, se sled with the fisherman's seal, was received in this coun try altering the ecclesiastical law of this country, doing away with the vicars-apostolic, and proposing,to eatablisl9 an archbishop and bishops, among whom the country was to be divided. Sir, I shall afterwards state the ',flew which I take of that document; what I wish to st a t e now is, that that change was mad • entirely without the consent, and, I may say, without the knowledge of the Government of this country.—(Great cheering.) I had stated in this House, in answer to a question from an Hot,. Member, that I could not approve of any such scheme. I had been told by a private friend, of the Roman Catholic persuasion, that such a project was in contemplation, but I had told him that I should never consent to such a pro ject being carrried mat. I heard nothing more of it, and I concluded, per baps weakly, that the Government of Rome being a friendly Government, would never think it possible to create archbishops and bishops, and of dividing this country without communicating at least that project to this Government.—(Hear, hear.) I could not believe that it would have so insulted the Queen.—(Great cheering, which continued for some minutes.) I may have been like the foolish Italian shepherd, who said—. " Urbem, quam diicunt Romam, Melibcee, putavi, Stultua ego hui a nostre similem t" — (Laughter.) I may have thought most, trustingly and imprudently that the Court of Rome would observe such relations, such discretion, such courtesy in her conduct with the State of England, as all other States that are friendly observe towtarda each other, and as Oee herself has ohserved towards every other State in Europe.— (Hear.) It appears that I must have been mistaken. I have seen in a letter, or supposed letter—(Hear, hear) —of Cardinal Wiseman, at least in a publication ascribed to that personage, that the Earl of Minto was cognisant of th e measures which were in progress, when he was at Rome, for the establishment of a Remish hierarchy in England.—(Hear, hear.) The Earl of Minto has given , emphatica public and denial to that statement._(L,uei and continued cheering from all parts of the House.) We have heard the story, to be sure, that at the inter- view with which he was honoured at the Court of Rome, the Pope, pointing to a table in the room, observed, n There is something there that regards you;" but Lord Minto did not look at the paper, or make any observa- tion whatevor on the subjeet.—(Hear. hear.) He says dc.e.s z, ;,.•. (he eircuinaLee ; ;7.A it )`.c, which he es e:, t:oreaitten, eueposing it taken place. Bug, even if the story be tine, it is eurely , a most astonishing inference to draw from the circum stance that there happened to he a paper lying on a table, which paper was never read by the Minister cf Englanti, that he had given his consent to the aggression which had been made upon this country.—(Cheers.) Be it ob served, suni , oFing the story had been told with cern plete accurac3 , it is not, alleged that the Secvetery of State or the Pope, or eny other person, said, " Here is a paper that we would wish you to take and peruse, and submit to your Government." If anything was said at all, it was only, " That is a project that concerns you."—(ilear.) Now, having said this.. I must refer for a moment to the conduct which has usually been observed by all ecclesiastical bodies in the several states of Europe. It has always been the nature of all ecclesiastical bodies to press upon the temporal powers in every state.—(Hear, hear, and repeated cheering.) I have myself had frequently to repress the ageressive conduct of the ecclesiastical body of the Church of England when it has been partially or unitedly attempted to trespass on the spiritu a l o r temporal liberties of other ecclesiastical subjscts in the realm.—(Hesr, hears) And if this be toe else with ordinary ecclesiastical bodies, how much more so is it with the Church of Rome, the members of which are more than any others devoted to the ser vice of their ecclesiastical soperiors, and subject to a power which claims for itself the quality of infallibi lity.—(Hear, hear.) But in the first place I must refer to the peculiar practice of the church of Rome, and if we may judge of the instances which have come to our knowledge, the Church of Rome has at all times been cpposed to the progress of liberty and civilization, whether exercised over men or states. I will et once show how this power was used when applied to a state which was confensedly Roman Catholic. Sir, this power was asserted in the most arro gant manner by Boniface VIII., when he told Philip the Fair, of France, " It is fit you should know that you are subject to us in temporal as well as in spiritual things."—(Hear, hear.) Now, the country that has had most to contest this power of the Roman Catholic Church, the country which I should ray had most suc cessfully contested it, but at the same time amid repeated danger, is that very country of France.—(Hear, hear.) I have read with great pleasure and instruction the work of Dupin, who is now President of the Legisla tive Assembly of France, but who before he attained to ministerial office had turned his attention to the study of the progress of ecclesiastical bodies. At the beginning of bis work upon the liberties of the Gallican Church he makes an observation to the effect, that though Rome has for the present relaxed many of her pretensions, she never entirely loses sight of them; that she is a power which has forgotten nothing, and learned much— that she is a power which is neither in infancy nor widowhood; hence she can struggle with temporal States at all times with means of which those tempo ral States are not often possessed ; that therefore it re quires the utmost vigilance and the utmost attention to watch against the aggressions of the Church of Rome, and to preserve the temporal liberties of any country with which she is connected.—(Loud cheering.) And here I find a word of admonition for the Hon. Member for Sheffield (Mr. Roebuck); M. Dupin goes on to say that philosophers thought that they would be able to stop her pro gress, but philosophers found that they were mistaken. He held that the greater part of men, whether from re lieioue convictions, whether from habit, or whether from a regard of the opinion of the world, are governed by religious feeling, and do not attend to the opinions of philosophy. Sir, M. Dupin then states in a very small book, bat containing an immense quantity of learning upon tl - ,e subject, what are the rights:and liberties which France has asserted iu its contest with Rome. Now some of these—and so with regard to other states—naturally enough relate to the appoint ment of bishops and other ecclesiastical officers, who are dependent upon it in any way, receiving sala ries or emoluments from the state.—(Hear, hear.) Well, Sir, but even supposing that those who conform to the will of the Pope ought occasionally to bit tolerated, there are maxims that have been establil%ed by law, maxims established by the diets of all the courts of justice in France, which are well worthy of our attention.— (Hear, hear.) One of these is, that no command of the Pope can be received in France without the consent of the Sovereign. This rule applies not only to appointments to ecclesiastical benefices and bishoprics, but it applies gene rally to anything that may be ordered by the See of Rome. There is another maxim which was laid down by these judges which likewise is well worthy of our attention. In order to preserve entire the temporal independence of the King of France, it was laid down, that if any person should introduce any bull or instrument affecting the spiritual excommunication or censure of any persons in the ser vice of the King of France, all his goods and property should be forfeited to the Crown. Sir, that was a very important and strong power, but one which was rendered necessary by the assumptions of Rome herself', for had the King been left without this power, he would occasionally have been in a state of extreme insecurity. Such, then, were the general maxims, such were the laws of France, during the time of Philip the Fair, and the power, too, was ex orcised by the Kings of France under the monarchy. by Lewis the 11th, a saint of the Roman Catholics. A VOICE —N. ; Lewis the eth. Lord J. RUSSELL—Yes, and Lewis the 11th and Henry the 4th. All these princes exercised the power as fully as it had been exercised iu any subsequent time; hut there is another circumstance which I think well worthy of our attention, because it completely an swers the argument that with respect to what has once been done by Rome cannot he undone. Now, according to the concordat made by Napoleon at the commence ment of the present century, in connexion with the Pope, the archbishops and bishops of the Roman Catholic Church of France were entirely de prived of their rights. There is another circumstance of that nature which occurred in 1817, when the King of France, bowing to the wish of the Legislative Assembly of that period, induced the Pope to annul a aecree abolishing the concordat of Napoleon, and from that time to this the concordat of Napoleon and the law has remained the same.—(Hear, hear.) Now, do not tell me after this that the Pope can never retrace his steps.—(Cheers.) Do not tell me that what once is done by Rome must remain in force for ever, and can never be altered.— (Loud cheers.) Do not tell me that whatever re sistance may now be made by the nation to the edicts of the Pope is useless, because Rome will not listen to our remonstrances, or recall her decrees.—(Cheers.) Sir, I pass now to what was once the law of Austria.—(Hear, bear.) Austria is a great Roman Catholic power, but the laws that she made were of the most stringent de scription respecting the introduction of Papal bulls, with respect to Papal appointments, and with respect to Papal offices. She declared that the civil power was supreme, and that nothing should he admitted into the empire without the sanction of the Emperor, that no document should have force without the sanction of the Emperor, and that no appointment could be made that had not his confirmation.—(Hear, hear.) No intercourse was to take place between the clergy he Austria and the Pope without the knowledge and sanc tion of the civil power, and that every document which proposed to inflict spiritu a l censure or excommueication should be subjected to a mi xe d b o d y o f t h e c l ergy an d laity, and should not be v did without their concur rence. This shows, then, with regard to another great Roman Catholic power how greet has been the jealousy of the encroachments of the Church of Rome on the temporal no e'er of Austria. Sir, having stated the prac tice of these two principal states of Europe, I will not go into any of the others, but I will state generally that no Roman Catholic power, which as far as we believe—but before I complete the sentence, I will state that the Emperor of Austria last year (1850) made a new constitution with respect to the clergy, and has per m itt e d i n t e r cou rse, by bulls, between his ecclesiastical subjects and Rome without the knowledge and sanction cf the temporal power, and therefore with out his sanction—(Hear, hear) —but I was going to say that with regard to the Roman Catholic powers of Europe there is no one, so far as I am aware, that would permit any bull to be . brought into the s country without the previous sanction of some civil au thorities of the country. Such is the case with regardto Portugal. Her Majesty's Minister at Lisbon has in formed us that no bull is permitted to be published and inculcated in Portugal of which notice had not been previously given, or which had not re ceived the concurrence of the reigning p owers . We have been told that in Prussia, one of the greatest Protestant powers, that though the Icing, out of regard to his Roman Catholic subjects, has given a power by which the appointment ef bishops is regulated by the Pope, yet that when it was proposed to create a Bishop of Magdeburg and some others in the P rotes tant territories of Prussia, the Government imme diately referred to the articles of the treaty of Westphalia and refused totally and entirely to give their consent to the introduction of these bishops.—(bear, hear.) Well, Sir, at least one inferen ce i s t o b e d rawn from this narrative—that there is no country in Europe in which the Pope would h ave en d eavoure d to pass t h e insult whichis offered to the Queen of England.—(Loud cheers.) I now come to the character of the bull which has been introduced into this country. —(Hear.) This document purports to be issued without the smallest reference to the United Kingdom being P : n independ en t state . Th ere i s not a word in it from be g i nn i ng to en d ac k now l e d g i ng th a t any authority exists whose consent ought to have been asked. The archbishop who is mentioned in it is spoken of as the archbishop of this great city, where the Queen holds her court, and where she meets her Parlia ment. Other bishoprics and other sees are pretended to be creeted in various parts of the country which are now under the bishops of the Established Church. In the document issued by Cardinal Wiseman, in pursuance of the l e tt er o f t h e 'Pope, he declares—" We govern and shall continue to govern the counties of Middlesex, llertford, and Essex."—(Cheers.) Now, I cannot see an; thing in these words but an assumption of terri torial authority. Some may say this is all a mater of form in the custom of the Roman Catholic Church. I do not deny the authority of those forms, but there is another term which has not been mentioned, which begins, " Victoria, by the grace of God," and which is totally inconsistent with the ether.—(Loud cheering.) I am ready to admit that this was only an assumed authority; but I owe no gratitude and thanks to those who do not attempt to enforce it, because I know it is utterly impossible for them to do so. But it is quite enough for me to know that it is an assumption—(Cheer s)—and if any person bad conic during the t ime t h at t h e P re tender was residing at Real e, and said lie had been appointed by him Lord Lieutenant of s Middlesex, the real Lord- Lieuten tint would still exercise authority, but the person who improperly assumed it would be subject to punishment. Now, Six, I must refer for a few minutes to that which has been done in former times in this country. in Bowa n Cettole: ',hales, nth ri ~ ,sera to the ; , e ' I t l' 3 Pori;-. I find cur Cioshol:c. .hue, ore, °' ',. t he jealous as we could b e o f th e encroachments 01 _ Pope. I find in the time of Williem the Co that he would have no se es created by the au' thoi ity of the Pope, but they were create° by the aothority of the King. I find that in the tiro, an othe, of Edward I. a person wes excommunicated by per-on, who pre-:pent: gl the person who exceahnunichtict; him in the King's courts. He was 10 113 d „g U t l i of high treason, and it was only on the suPPil ua-c n . of his counsellors that the King did not carry the se 0 telace into effect. In the time of Ed ward 111. re till iz,,, being were presented to prevent bulls, writings, see" I allowed in this country. It had been found neeessi. nqaeror by our Catholic ancestors to resort to Means again the power of the Pope, and the statute of P r ' o f munire had therefore been passed, the 16th he Richard the Second. I will now proceed to state s t ele course which the Government took, on being 03 ;be aware of the publication of this hull, an ci nt) " ° , course they now propo s e t o t a k e . The first proc , u r , which the Govern ment too k was to as k the law offi ee d of the Crown whether the persons who had asVl a t these Liles came under any known law, and l ieu would be the effect of a prosecution; the opinifier given was, that with regard to the assume' Lion of the titles with reference to the e ; I : wa s statutes and the state of the common law ' L .-. illegal, but it could not be prosecuted with effec th• (Hear, hear.) Furthermore, they said th at wa s introduction of lett e rs a p os t o li c i n t o this country. ht illegal, and was a n o ff ence f or w hi c h a prosecu tion tat e be commenced, a n d the judge would declare th at parties had render e d themselves liable to a penalty' e i ll . but they said that th e s t atutes w hi c h pre vented th rope troduction of any b u ll or wr i t i ng of : e he long, a B o into this country, had not been for time put in force, that if they were used for, the purpose of a prosecution for assuming these title s ii ° :r the ground that it was by the authority of a toS I 00s writing from Rome, such prosecution would feet likely fail, as the statutes had been I n w ith in disuse. The House will be of opinion tha t f„ ou id this opinion before them, th e G ove rnment " Nor not have done right to institute a prosecution• any, do I think that such a prosecution would lea d ea tci t aice useful result. It would h ave been with great reP„nn - eas oa that, on the first occasion w h en we t h oug ht we had feoula to complain of the int ro d uc ti on o f suc h bull, s treed A have ordered a prosecution without first having practice which had so long been carried ene ee itly which had been left unnoticed and a pparentlYrote consented to.• There is a further difficulty, and I Wish ''° No to the House the whole difficulty upon that subject. ease s doubt according to the statute of Richard 11. in certa i o a mica the introduction of bulls containing asill'Aject of power would be a grave offence, and s beett the offender to the loss of his property. This had e ,5 1, decided in the case of Lawler, in the reign of '', 4 lliess There was likewise a statutory prohibition in the 13w iz are. beth, with respect to the introduction of writings fr° ll3 atich In 1846, that part of the statute of Elizabeth " es of fixed the punishment of treason on any such ef feac t the that nature was taken away, and it was declared th e w as repeal merely extended to the penalties, and that th ere s py nothing in that repeal to render it lawful to introduce such ceeded bulls or writings. Accordingly, we might ha r e e s uch ceeded on such grounds, and with such an issue int o re' t probable result, under the statutes to which I et h er , h ferred. But then a further question arises, Wht c iao no ao these statutes have fallen into disuse, it would net ' t i e in advisable to make a new enactment with respect to the troduction of these writings or bulls from , al b' This is an important p ar t o f th e great 09 ject, and it appears to me that you a t o legislate in o ne o f two ways , One i s ell enact a general prohibiti o n aga i ns t th e i n t ro duction gas bulls from Rome whi c h may affect the pe ace of her u will jesty's dominions. Th a t i s one course; b u t then tef o uoi leave the law exceedingly vague , an d it will , deem ed difficult to define in that enactment what shall v i e „,i n ioes' as disturbing the peace of her Majesty'e a' c i oe tio o Then there is another course to prohibit the in tr° ,oo ll " of any bulls until they have undergone the which is sion of some officer or board. This is a course ens of taken in several of the continental na t A ic ' e d with Europe. But the course would be also attenred that this difficulty, that it might be occasionally conce' r " the ore the Catholics had been treated with harshness• ce el" other side that bulls dang erous t o th e sta t e had b e en i. ea' lowed to enter the kingdom which shoed have yet like eluded. In a free country, and with a free Parlianl'discas ours, this would give rise to considerable ,ocert sion, and I should be sorry to introduce that e h ' dells into debates.--(Hear, hear.) Therefore, after Ilin c . with beration on this subject, after very anxious discuss i°ll ;;la be a view to come to the best possible decision that ° ne ither formed on the subject, we have thought it bes t, 00r to to propose to repeal the statutes I have men tioneth i :l e k I propose such alteration or substitut e s as those to t h the have alluded. In the present state of affairs, " the iir great uncertainty that still prevails as to what wat er it is tention of the measure which has been taken, whetTh Wes to be the prelude to future measu re s, or whether will merely a blunder committed on a sudden, and wh ic i eel be retracted or amended, in such a state of affairs' eet visv thought it far better, on th e one s id e , not to re 'le r pot any power which we possess by law, and on the otwn ee of to propose any substitute which might in itself be a c h , ioo of permanent evil. I come now to the immediate clos s e hi e 00 the assumption of titles, and I think it is useful , v, O for this subject, to refer to that which was given as the reauAet. the prohibitory clauses in the Roman Catholic Re lief ' polie Sir Robert Peel, in introducing that great measur e to the following effect respecting the clauses al! m a ecclesiastical titles :—" A practice has ,of late occasl° oa prevailed in Ireland which is calculated to give de af rifc" I may add just offence to Protestants. I allude to the r ai sin tice, on the part of the Roman Catholic Prel a t es , o f e s ' a of ing the names and titles of the Bishops of the 03 111 ' c - the England. I propose that the titles which belong tr 's bi, bishcps of the Church of Engl a nd s h a ll no t b e asselasieo the bishops of the Roman Catholic Ch urc h. Bi s hoP s dips" them, for bishops they are, having had their right of 9 r oe itr tion acknowledged as valid by our own Ch u rch, but ,- P - et yle tarn that it is neither seemly nor decorous to use %stab' and titles which properly belong to the prelates of the epos lished Church, and such assumptions shall be altogetb ec i s ioa vented in future."—(A laugh.) A ccor di n gly that p r t u ha t ia was inserted in the Catholic Relief Act, sand I Bnr a deres o , the following year there wai published a Pa st°l-8 ; Irelse ° to the laity of that communion, and this from the Roman Catholic archbishops and bishops t 9 a l to ih very warm terms of the kindness which the Leg isia • k it it r thin e e shown in passing the Emancipation Act. e e hiaogee worth while also at the present time, when the ' 081 0 which had been used by Archbishop Cullen i s not 11 6 1 ;rvi to, respectful to the Crown and Legislature of this cecloof,t ot recal a little to mind what was the universal seath h i sso , twenty-six Roman Catholic archbishops and bishops ! l ea gth After congratulating themselves that the storm bad: . ' ec i t wit subsided, and that peace and justice were about to 1 7 0ra they blessings on the country, they said that the King ,w e ar ther " were bound in loyalty to honour, was entitled t _ La i! all the honour and gratitude they can bestow; that t f n i e rels odl lature by its labours had raised them (the people 0 . ate ° a s address ptuere bad from a prostrate condition, giving them equal rig aiso 1 , 7 privileges with their fellow-subjects, and that it e A °ll entitled to their gratitude and love. They expre ss e ia i ltii ; fident hope that the feelings of the people would be e to the son with their own, and that respect and adherenc g ot t ° constitution and laws of the country, and attac h :: Soak the person and government of their most gra,° i° e tili a o reign, would be manifested by the entire peoP ie 'id be wets that so far as these sentiments are concerned it wor e if Bishops Cullen and M`Hale would refer to the a' ill hat I°Y 09 thus expressed by their predecessors, to see es' . , turn a e the Crown and what attachment to the Legisia,eot iv _ felt in 18e0, and to consider whether such caw': t hole 13 0 ' • ors not well worthy of limitation. - (Hear, hear.) ro bitet La bishops did not pass without noticing the ee F re joic e ae ust rel i g ioa r clause. They mention it in this way —" ‘v e.' •arie ll "'e the result, regardless of those provisions which affect ourselves, and not only us but tho se din 13e e orders which the Catholic Church has nourisheses wend bosom since the time of the apostles. These dau nt . sol e we believe, sacrifices not required by rea son ev en Dg policy, but by prejudices holding ;captive, rejoj e k... minds of honest men, and they do not prevent " eo otria tO at the good which has been effected for the c- f e rrine or e (Hear, bear.) They did not, therefore, while eel ,113„,j-ici those provisions ask for their repeal, or do OP at sii - le than express a passing regret that such clau s if 0 0 that sion have been introduced. It seems to me, then, rovl lie were the provisions of the Relief Act, and if those Pe e thvo were passed without objection from the Rern e a %siont he t body, but on the contra r y were rece i ve d with sul at id, ' t , 0 obedience by the R oman C at h o li c bi s h o ps in 1 1 '8 stir, o O f we should be perfectly justified i n p ro posing proVi:;ptioeoe, similar nature with regard to the recent a ssa er the eg t or titles in this country. For I consider that wil e " - of - se, sumption had been that of the title of Archbislaiioceege terbury, with jurisdiction as ordinary over that ar„`W, dic' e c h er or, as in the present case, Westminster with a %ore sit carved out, the difference is immaterial to the cla i e s s ' oe reig r3 ",) being equally an assumption of supremacy an T u a d ch ee p? which ought nut to be permitted by law.—( l-.° and It to But there are other questions which are closely,,,,e„ ha , diately connected with the assumption of thesehtal one q v) believed, and I think not without foundation, the born son for this change: from vicars apostolic, Roman Catholics have enjoyed the free e xercise , ° 0 t he !' to under of tbeihea. ligion, and been satisfied with for 200 years, lento dioceses, is not only to make an assumption, c also for some degree to lower the state in England, hot _'s_ etr ol h el p purpose of exercising by such means a great ,c of .estt'ar, the large endowments which are in the ( h c a r n i n e ; o f th T t ' i f o O f Roman Catholic trusts in this country.— fiitnA iKeit; hear.") Now Ido not think it would be should allow that control to be exercised n!,, r ohlv iti the holders of those titles which we are about it: n rb r ieg 4 , and therefore I shall, if the House a Bill, introduce in it clauses providing that all o t etlY 0 1 eons under these titles shall be null and void; ; e c ell , eet s done by the holders of such titles shall a lso ,h o e v a or gl a ‘ to give me leav,e 'l os toP; o t void ; and that, further, that property bequea th a t otic ket ts to such persona and for their purposes, shall pas , t he in' et o the Crown, either to create trusts in harmony w it ; v ie t l io tion of the donor, or to be otherwise disposed ore _ furse% best to the crown. Ido not think that powers le" aor eier of ai l° 0 4 than these would satisfy the justice of the ease aware that in several cases there has been a tran tbers t rithl i f perty from those who have hitherto held it to c art e._ t o o. either directly from Rome, or persons assuming wean tit it as bishops of the Roman Church I was told of an iane , , b, o f this nature the other day. I will not name the P i cte priv,f: jo g was near the sea coast, where a priest wa s he id "wee the income which he had hitherto __ it , o re informed that by ecclesiastical authoritYala 10'00 found that such property and such interestccire7we per4 ie t usefully employed for other purposes. Nowe. ° la ity st o ld to take power to defend the Roman Cathollc we e joo such attacks as 'these. It is desirable tha t _ h i t aro 4 l o , ' t deg r for into the Bill, 'will in a grea ease ree A the do so, and the clause I propose " ee do tD ie Hit should be necet. sary to Introduce other In', Fr ien ,, r , t o purpose in the Bill of my Hon. and Learn ik eh, re ga h i d Attorney-General which he will introduce ." tO ?Of charitable trusts, further securities will be takentraosfeL c ot the Roman Catholic laity against the h as ise ehioa their property into hands for which . I' ol3 eiu S h i o d re dile • a ree originally intended. Sir, there is amo ae so t ter which the Hon. Member for Youghal may rfTb . l _r o ) to 'he means that have , been employed to obtaila tiratinsfo_arnoa, some of this property, a means wai et the in the spiritual censure directed aara" ., g e ar, u' r diy fessors of the Roman Catholic religion. . . aeon lie_ to That, Sir, is a far more difficult question, anct B cot lasv o .,i, be ieachel unless we adopt the spirit of the Stalc . ` preseottn, which I have referred, and import it into 1 110 , _ _ tate a . Dia„f which at present Ido not propose to do. I ha% c_f unip tiolL',' t in the first place, ais Bill is to prevent the an i3t ieg, ; v il l ' e w b e re ct tc any title taken not only from any diocese no from any territory or any place which is sus Hear, hearsti authority or belongs to the United Kingdom. _.... i e slitc hi. That provision is in conformity with the proPv" a f Letiow' saw was made the other day by the Bishop "