The Sun. — London, England, 1850-05-01 00:00:00

THE ART UNION OF LONDON. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) The following prizes were drawn:- 459. Miss E. Taylo r £lo 2142. Mr. E. H. D e a con 10145. Mr. J. M. Pay ne 4885. Mr. J. Breech , Bradford 10552. Mr. James D ean, Kirkstile 674. The Rev. H. Conway, Workington 7O 3126. Miss Rowe, New Oxford-street 7592. Mr. R. Wingfield, Slough 5O 8632. Mr. WM. Shippery , W orthin g 2316. Mr. Jacob Bell , Langham - p lace BO 8656. Mr. Edgworth , Wrexham 8191. Mr. Davidson Forris lO 7581. Mr. W. Mastin, Sleaford BO 1476. Captain Reynolds, Junior United Service Club 511. Mrs. DiSlafosse, Oxford-terrace, Hyde-park 15 1024. Mrs. Douglas Guest, St. John's Wood 369. Mr. W. E. Eddison, Waibrook 1272. Mr. C. Dooman, Hammersmith 6867, Mr. A. E. Cresswell, Norwich l5O 9750. Miss K. Loder, Albany-street,Begent's-park 2G 1373. Mr. W. Howe, York l5 1368. Mr. F. Macqueen, Tottenham-court -road 6O 9349. Mr. A. Harris, Hartlepool 80 6785. Mr. G. Pratt, New York 6644. Miss R Ball, Merthyr 4220. Mr. William Duffield, Bath 2O 7331. Officers of Marine Library , Chatham 25 901. Mrs. C. Smith, Exeter-place, Knightsbridge 40 2254. Mrs. James Thurlow , Jud d-street 25 2251. Mr. St. Barbe, Stoke Ne win g ton . 15 9512. Mr. W. Gell, Douglas, Isle of Man lO 4546. Mr. Archibald Vickers, Disly, rear Man chester 4O 609. Mr. J. H. Mann, Cha irman of the Artists' Benevolent Fund, Kentish-town 4436. Mr. E. H. Maling, Bishop Wearmouth 4O 2114. Mr. C. Babbing, Lambeth-walk 3511. Mr. G. Bankes, BfOMSgrOVe 6284. Mr. Ed. Lichfield , Li ver p ool l5O 3184. Mr. W. F. Burn, King's-road, Bedford-row 15 2634. Mr. G. W. Newell, ULaidenhead 6O 1000. Mr. D. Wire , St. S within's-lane 2OO 2149. Miss Hooper , R eadin g 25 1212. Mr. H. 11. Armistead, Liquorpond-street 5878. Mr. W. B. Wingate , Dumfries 25 4585. Rev. L. P.r:er, Bolton 25 73. Mr. Jas. Durant , B ank of En g land 8502. Mr. C. W. Benny , W inchester 50 9898. Mr. R. Child, Henley-on-Thames 7123. Mr. William Lavers, jun., Plymouth 8360. Rev. C. Potchett, Grant ham 3866. Mr. C. Jeffries, Limehouse 8249. Mr. George Grant, White Vale, Glasgow 9507. Miss Hodder, Isle of Man l5 10368. Mr. P. Bald, Glasgow 2344. Mr. J. T. Hughes, S'. Martin's-le-Grand 1328. Mr. A. D. Colburne, Piccadilly 4065. Mr,. J. Woodhouse, Ashby-de-la-Zouch 4O 4159. Mr. David Taylor, Kennington-common 2263. Mr. J. T. Armistead, Bank of England 4O 6600. Mr. J. Greenhalgh, Mansfield l5 1640. Mr. E. East, per Mr. Simpson, Blackfriars '7ll road 7205. Mr. Edgar Braithwaite , Pont efract .••• 2040. Mr. 0. Stait ,, , Bernard-st., Russell-square... 6693. Mr. R. ILdeolro, Nairn 3974. Mr. IL Moorhouse, Billiter-street 3950. Mr. E. S. Stillwell 7064. Mr. R. Morris, Philadelphia 2925. Mr. T. J. Young, Great Cumberland-street 9855. Rev. Dr. Penrose, Wrettle, near Chelmsford 4344. Mr. Doidge. of Bideford 9743. Mr. William Moffett, per W. Watson, Syd ney, New South Wales 7069. Mr. R. F. Sneyder, Philadelphia 1222. Mr. Thomas Trollope, Braintree, Essex 553. Messrs Smith and Wheedon, Paternoster-row 667. Mr.F. Graves, Povriz..-place, Hampstead-road 3301, Mr. J. B. Gillingham, Wareham 10362. Mr. T. Robertson, Glasgow.... ..... 4322. gr. J. Bewdlcy 2948. Mrs. R. C. Wilson, Preston 6309. Miss Swift, Liverpool 500. Mr. W. W. Smith, Kentish-town 8886. Mr. E. B. Green, Melbourne, Port Philip 5365. Miss Lewis, Chepstow 3313. Mr. Cha7. Brown, Lower Tocting 5396. Mr. J. Lucas, Choter 10332. Mr. Edwin Nudd, Dunstan-hill 6373. Mr. Wm. Pick ford, Lynn 617. Mr. Edw. C. Proctor, Ball's Pond ...... 2235. Mr. A. E. White, Poplar 1047. Mr. R. Oakden, Goudhurst 1574. Mr. F. Watts, Warwick-square, Pimlico 9215. Mr. S. Commisset.nd, Grenada 233. 11. Carr, Morden College, Oxford 8933. Mr. G. H. Gardner, Bowness, Windermere 1179. Miss E. Lovegrove. Blackwall 5650. Mr. James Bete, Demerara 6360. Mr. T. Watson, Butterworth 1774. Mr. J. A. Ballet, Great George-street 748. Mr. W. J. Bugbee, jun., City Gas Works 70 8351. Mr. W. W. Hardwick, Grantham 5565. Mr. J. Dennc tr. ' Cranbroolr, Kent ..... 10 5016. Mr. Henry Gardner, Bury St. Edmund's 5896. Mr. D. Burrell, Oxfor d-street 5O 9828. Mr. M.Stilss,Biden.terrace, Sheperdess- walk 25 6367. Rev. H. C. Michell, Leam in g ton 4O 1889. Mr. W. Payne, llonlydown lO 4657. Mr. J. Munro, Boston, United States 3073. Mr. R. Lee, Regent's-square, St. Pancras 9504. Mr. W. Beckwith, Isle of M an 4O 5511. Mr. T. H. Penn, Mayland, Colchester The whole of the money prizes having been drawn, the committee proceeded with the drawing of the names for the works of art, and the business terminated. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, April 30, TOLER V. ATTWOOD. ' (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday Mr. NIALINS having finished his reply, The COURT took time to consider. MARKET IN TEL LICENCE. better, supply at .market. East India dull cf sale at is 2id to is 3d proof. Jail:h:ca has been purchased with caution for all purpose 3, and there aro scars at rather lower terms. The value of 20 to 29 per cent over proof is 2s 2d to 2s 7d, 30 to 37 over 2s 8d to 3s 3d, and superior 34 to 39 over 3s 4d to 41 2d. Demerara mast with Ilttla nttnntion_ and has declined in value_ (From the London INlew Price Current, April 30, SUGAR.—To-day there was a good business concluded in the West India Sugar market, but merchants were compelled to accept the rates of Friday, and grocers were the chief operators. The total purchases amounted to 890 hhds, Sze, including two public sales of Barbadoes, consisting of 270 hhds, 49 tres, and 15 brls, which went at steady rates; fine yellow at 40s to 425, mid to good 37s to 39s 6d, low 35s 6d to 36s 6d; but 24 hhds Trini dad were taken in at 35s per cwt. REFINED,TO-day Refined Sugar was purchased with caution by home dealers; still, brown Lumps were not to be obtained under 48s per cwt. Crushed Sugar dull of sale at former terms. MAURITIUS.—This afternoon there was rather more desire to operate in Mauritius Sugar, and at public sale 7,365 bags were all sold at full terms; low to hne brown y 28s ellow went at from 3 4 s to 395, grey 333 6d to 38s, to 343, grainy 35s to 42s per cwt. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon the public sales of 4,079 bags Bengal Sugar went off d qu o ie fi tl n y e w at i f t o e rm ß er terms, and about two-thirds sold; or . t h s tems at 36s to 39,2, good and flue gratny.yellow 39s to 42s 6d, cad fair soft yellow 33s to 34s 611 Of Madras, 2,7a2 bags were all sold, but at rather lower rates; soft brown went at 27s to 273 6d, and ord yellow ditto at 28s to 28s 6d per cwt. FORElGN,—Although bonded parcels can be obtained rather node: previous rates, still the shipping orders completed have been of little moment, and are confined to 500 chests fine brown Bahia at 18s 3d; a cargo of white Pernambuco for 'the Mediterranean at 24s 6d; 600 boxes low yellow Havannab, 18s ; small parcels of better sort, 19s to 20s ; and two cargoes of brown Bahia, at lis 4d to 17s 9d per cwt. At public sale of 1,795 chests Ilavannah 1,200 sold ht from 19s to 21s 61 for mid to fine; and superior at 22s to 22s 6d. Duty paid kinds have been brought more freely to market, and rather lower terms are ac ceded to for inferior, but better sorts remain much the same as quoted previously. There has not been much business concluded by private treaty, still at auction 983 hds 24 try 350 bgs Porto Rico nearly all found buyers. Of Havannah 1,278 chests were in part sold, good to fine yellow at 39a to 41s 6d; low to mid, 38s to 38s 63; washed, 35s 6d to 38s 6d: 706 bags Rio, brown, at 34s to 35s 63; yellow, 38s 6d to 395; and 43 chests Bahia yellow and brown, 343 ad to 38s. Refiners working under bond have made purchases with much caution, and the sales are chiefly finedcon to 1,000 chests brown er w Havannab, at 36s da p --Tcy at public sale 29 casks Bengal .17.0 LASSES. Honey were taken in at 255, but 40 pkgs Jamaica sold at 42s to 439. COCOA.—This afternoon the public sales of 434 bags I Trinidad Cocoa went off quietly, and a part only aold but full rates were obtained; good red realised 44s to , 465, low and mid dark 38s to 40s 6d per cwt. s b egrrester i dulnessdeclined. The in and p CONFEE.—This afternoon theerse m the market for Coffee, f w ur a t of s ord purchases made privately were trifling b hi ors and home dsalers, whilst the nc qare valuegoodl67 bags Native Ceylon is 41s per cwt. At auctio n Rio sold at a considerable reduction on late rates ; good ord at ais 6d, or d 36 3 , and damaged U6s to 295. Of Jamaica 28 packages taken in at 453 to 50s. TEA.—There has been a good demand for common and medium sorts of Congou for home trade pu r p oses; shippers have been b u y ers to a fair extent, and the rates paid are Sid to ls. per lb. In better sorts only limited sales have been made. and sellers are willing to accept from is 2d to is 83, but fine met with the least attention. There has been little passing in Souchong, and prices are on the decline. Of flowery and scented Orange Pekoe larger parcels have been sold, and former terms are well sup ported. A good sale has been experienced for scented Caper at Is to is 4d. Lower rates have been acceded to for common Green Tea; the better sorts have been purchased with caution, and can he obtained at a slight reduction. With Green the market is abundantly sup plied. SPlCES.—Nutmegs have been in fair demand at the former value, and 27 pkgs sold at 2s Gd to 21 9d for mid and rood mid brown. For Mace, prices are rather lower • and at auction 9 caves were sold at Is 10,3 to 2s 6d for low to good. To-day at public sale 11 barrels Jamaica Ginger sold at 85s to 913 for inferior; 20 bags Pimento sold at ail, these are lower rates. 11 cases Penang Cloves, is 43 for fine bold. SPlVlTS.—Operations in Leeward Island Rum:pave been small at from Is 31d to 13 43 proof, and there is a THE SUN, LONDON, and sellers are willing to accept for Cognac best brands of the vintage of 1849, 4s 3d to 4s sd. 1848 ditt o 4s 5d to 4s 7d, 1847 ditto 5s to 5s 2d. Inferior sorts 2s 7d to 43 3d. Gin has been purchased with caution at is 7d, and fine at 2s 3d to 3s 3d. Operations in British made Spirits are limited at 9s 5d to 9s 6d proof, and Gin at is 10d to 8s 4d for 17 to 22 per cent under proof. INDlGO.—Prices are rather lower for Spanish, and supplies continue to get larger. At public sale 150 serons Guatemala were all sold; Cortes, middling to fine at 2s Ild to 35 sd, ordinary and good ordinary 2s 4d to 25 10d; Sobres, good and fine 3s 6d to 3s I Id, and good Flores 4s to 4s 3d per lb. East India is held for former terms, but the demand has become limited for home use and exportation during the last few days. The quantity declared for auction is now 11,630 chts, of which 8,625 are new, and 3,005 chts are second-hand goods. Oils.—For Olive Oil prices have further receded, and operations are not upon a larger scale; sales of Gallipoli have been made at 441 lOs to 451, Spanish 441 to 45/, other sorts 421 103 to 431 lOs per tun. Palm is not much wanted, 30s to 31s is the value of good and fine, and at auction 83 casks were taken in. In Cocoa Nut operations are upon a larger scale, but at lower rates ; sales of good and fine Cochin have been made at 30s 6d to 31s 6d per cwt, but several parcels have arrived. Linseed Oil met with little attention from shippers or home dealers ; and as there is a plentiful supply, crushers are willing to realise, and ac cept 31s to 31s 3d on the spot. There has been little business done for delivery. Rape Seed Oil has been purchased with caution, sellers are willing to accept 38s 6d to 40s for pale, and brown 37s to 38s. Cod Oil is cheaper and few buyers are to be met with; the present value is 345. Only trifling sales have been made in Seal Oil, pale at 361 to 37/, and other sorts 311 to 351. TALLow.— An improvement has taken place in the i demand for Russian on the spot, but not with an advance in prices. A fair amount of business has been con cluded, and the rates paid have been 36s 9d to 37s per cwt for fine P. Y. C. There has been more disposition to operate for delivery in last three months of the year, and the rates paid have been, 38s to 3856 d per cwt, but at which there are not free settlers. A good demand has been experienced for home melted, and the terms obtained are 35s 6d to 36s nett cash. With other sorts of Tallow the market is less freely supplied, and rates exhibit an advance, a I limited quantity baring been brought to market. At auction 600 pkgs of South American were sold at from 33s to 36s 6d for low to fine, and 1,700 casks Sydney at 35s to 37s 6d per cwt. FROM THE LONDON GAZETTE OF TUESDAY. WHITEHALL, APRIL 19, 1850. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Joseph Challinor, of Leek, in the county of Stafford, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. BANKRUPTS. William George Cee'y, omnibus proprietor, Poplar, to surrender May 7 and June 13, at one, at the Court of Bai,kruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall street ; P.l`Leod and Stenning, London-street, Fencburch- street. James Brighton, licensed victualler, Derby-street, Gray's Inn-road, May 7, at half-past one, and June 8, at el-even, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Dimmock and Burbey, Suffolk-lane, Cannon street. Thomas Collingwood, innkeeper, Nand am Courtney, Oxfordshire, May 11, at half-past twelve, and June 22, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee, Guildhall-chambers, Basinghall-street; Ford and Lloyd, Bloomsbury-square. Anthony Edward Corvan, baker, Hampstead-roai, May 11, at half-past twelve, and June 22, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee, Guildhall-chambers; Hubbard, Bucklersbury. James Guest, commission agent, Birmingham, May 13 and June 17, at eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. Christie, official assignee, Birmingham; Raw lins and Rowley, Birmingham. John Brown, builder, Bristol, May 14, and June 11, at eleven, at the Bristol District Cour:. Miller, official assignee, Bristol; Harley, Bristol. James Villar. maltster, Leckhampton, Gloucester shire, May 13, at twelve, and June 10, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton, official assignee, Bris tol; Winterbotham and Bell, Cheltenham. Charles Pearson, licensed victualler, Sheffield, May 11 and Juno 22, at ten, at the Leeds District Court, Sheffield. Freeman, official assignee, Sheffield; Cham bers, Sheffield. Conrad Greenhow, jun., timber merchant, Newcastle upon-Tyne, May 7, at half-past ten, and July 10, at twelve, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court. Wakley, official assignee, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; Hoyle, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; Crosley and Compton, Church court, Old Jewry. 50 40 20 80 10 40 25 80 ATTEMPTED MURDER. An atrocious attempt at murder was made at Barling a village between Rochford and Wakering, about mid night on Tuesday last, the assassin firing through the window at his victim as be was kneeling in bed, and wounding him so dangerously about the upper part of his body that little hopes are enter tained of his life. The name of the wounded man is Daniel Cunningham, a labourer, who resides in a cot tage with his wife and step-daughter,. and it appears they all went to bed about half-past nine; at half-past twelve Cunningham got up for a certain purpose, and was kneeling on the bed when a gun was fired through the cottage window, and about forty shots entered his chest, neck, and left arm; one shot also struck the wife, who was lying in the bed, above the eye. An alarm was immediately given to the neighbours. Mr. Miller, surgeon, of Wakering was called to the wounded man; and information was given to the police, who on inspecting the premises found the glass of the window broken, and the lead riddled with large shot, ap parently No. 1, and that the party who fired the gun ap peared to have stood upon a bank about 12 yards off. Suspicion at once attached to a man named Rison, who had lodged in the house, and had been heard to make use of threats towards the party. It appears that Mrs. Cun ningham was formerly married to a man named Webb, and that after her husband's death Cunningham and Rison lodged with her ; Cunningham married her about two years since, thus, it is believed, thwarting the intentions of Rison, who, however, continued to lodge there till about a month ago, when Cunningham compelled him to go. Since then he had repeatedly declared that he would shoot the woman. In conse quence of this the police proceeded to his lodgings at Wakericg, two miles off, at four o'clock the same morn ing, where they found him in bed with his clothes on, and his trousers and shoes wet. A formidable duck gun, which he had borrowed, was found behind the door, and had recently been discharged, and it was also dis covered that he had bo ug ht powder, shot, and gun caps the previous night. He was therefore at once taken into custody. On Wednesday, the depositions of Cunningham were taken before the Rev. T. S. Stratton, at the man's house, he being considered in danger of death; the prisoner was taken to the room of the wounded man. His evi dence was confined to the fact, that he was on the night of Tuesday last, shot whilst in a kneeling position in bed, and that the prisoner well knew the situation of the bed, as he helped him (Cunningham) to put it up. On Saturday last, the prisoner was fully committed 'or trial.—Essex Herald. 'YOUNG HENS' CHRISTIAN FfaßstlwEaNsDgivSeOnCyleEstTerlCd.a morning a y k ern, in Great Queen-street, y in aid of the public breakfast g at the Freemasons'-tavern, funds of the Young Mens' Christian Friend Upwards of a thousand young people of both sexes Society. eat don to a very substantial repast, over which thell Arthur Kinnaird presided, the chair being taken as ear o l n y . as six o'clock. On the withdrawal of the cloth the Rev. C. Jackson invoked the Divine blessing upon the pro ceedings, and the company having sang a hymn to the praise and glory of the Deity, The CHAIRMAN briefly addressed them on the objects of the association which they had met to support, and which was established some years ago for the purpose of uniting young men in the bonds of Christianity. Its career had been highly prosperous, thousands of the youth of this great country having been morally and re ligiously benefited by the labours and exertions of its officers, to whom too much credit could not be given for the untiring zeal and devotion which they dedicated to the interest of the association.—(Cheers.) Knowing that time was precious, and that the majority of those pre sent were anxious soon to return to their daily avoca tions, he should not detain them with any lengthened remarks, but simply assure them that at all tim es his heart, hands, and voice were at the service of the asso ciation.—(Laughter and cheers.) The Rev. Mr. CHAPLIN next addressed the meeting, observi ng t h at the magnificent hall in which they were assembled w as somewhat typical of the purposes of this association. It was the Freemasons'-hall, and although they were not masons in a worldly, they were at least brothers in a moral sense. They practised masonry of the highest order welfare of the you , n always looking after the religious evil. The main object of and protecting them from of this society was to attach induce . young men to each oher, to there, by a commu nity of interest, to relieve each oth ers ' mora l an d physi cal destitution, and he warejoiced t o k now that the as sociation was daily becomingpurposes better understood.—(Cheers.) ole appreciated, and its Several other Rev. Gentlemen addressed the society in a similar strain, after which a which it appeared that during the past year the total re ceipts had been 2,1511., being an year previous cf 1,5421. While increase over the the x amoun ted to 2,1201., leaving a balance of 301,epiennditure hand. Th e average weekly attendance of members at lectures bad been 200, the total number of young men attached to the association being upwards of 2,000, for whose use 250/. h a d been devote d t o the formation of a library and readi ng - ro om in Gresham - street , C it y. No less than 50,000 book 3 bad been circulated gratis since the society first commenced its operations. A cordial vote of thanks was then passed to the chair man, and the meeting separated. -------,-...........—, THE BIACKENEL FISLIERY.—The catches during the week have not been large, but there has been a fair supply on each day. One smack on Monday brought in 5,U00 fish, which has been the largest catch during the week. The boats have been fishing throughout the " light" nights, and the mackerel caught have .been of an inferior quality, owing, as the men allege, to this cause. Many of t h e b oats have pro cee d e d h om e w ards, in the impressio n that the fishery is drawing to a close. Prices during the week have raled as follows :—Saturday, from Bs. to 102. per six score; Sun , Jay, from 11s. to 13s. ; Monday, from 10s. to 12s. ; Tuesday, from 9s. to Ils. ; Wednesday, from 7s. to 10s.; Thursday, Si. to lls. ; and Friday, from 9s. to 12s. About 100 tons have been sent out by railway since our last. A week or two since the mackerel boat Eight Sisters, while fishing off this port, made a curious " haul," and secured in • •-• .. • IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT ROUSE OF LORDS, Aprzl 30. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. PETITIONS. The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented several petitions from Presbyterian congregations in Scotland and Ireland against Post-office Sunday labour. The Earl of ROSEBERY presented several petitions against any alteration in the law of marriage which should authorise marriage with a deceased wife's sister. The Earl of RODEN presented a petition from some place in Ireland for a grant to Church schools; also petitions against Post-office Sunday labour. The Earl of CARLISLE presented a petition from Wisbeach with a similar prayer. PROCESS AND PRACTICE (IRELAND) BILL. The Earl of CARLISLE moved the second reading of this Bill, the object of which was to render justice in Ireland more cheap, more certain, and more expeditious. Lord MONTEAGLE hoped that sufficient time would be given to the public and the profession in Ireland to consider the provisions of this Bill. The Marquis of WESTMEATII objected to any alteration in the law, which required greater strictness in the particulars of summonses in actions fcr ejectment. After a few words from the Earl of CARLISLE, the Bill was read a second time. WEST INDIA APPEALS BILL. This Bill passed through Committee. TITLES OF RELIGIOUS CON GREG ATIONS BILL (SCOTLAND). _ _ On the motion of the Marquis of BREADALBANE, this Bill was read a third time and passed. ADVANCES FOR PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND). The Marquis of WESTMEATH moved for copies of all communications made in and since February, 1849, to the Board of Works in Ireland, or to the Irish Go vernment by the Marquis of Westmeath, Sir Montague Chapman, Bart., or any other landed proprietors in the barony of Delvin, and county of Westmeath, relative to the public works carried on in that locality under what is termed Mr. Laboucher's Letter, and the replies thereto, as well as all inclosures accompanyiog the same. The Noble Marquis complained that the result of the acceptance, by the landowners, of Government advances had been to bleed the real improvers, and to encourage and benefit the lazy and careless. The persons employed had not done their duty properly, and under theta cir cumstances he hoped the Government would insist upon the repayment of the uttermost farthing of the money, to which those who had accepted the advances had made themselves liable, for the Government officers had taken the management of these works out of the hands of the landowners. He denied that the money had been asked for; Mr. Labouchere had made a proposal, in perfect good faith he believed, and that proposal had been accepted. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that the whole of the advances made under Mr. Labouchere' letter had been made to the landowners fur the improvement of their property; and no later than last year the persons to whom these advances bad been made received a great indulgence in having the time for the repayment of those advances extended last year from ten years to twenty two years. This was a great indulgence. In opposition to the Noble Marquis, he would contend that these ad vances had been asked for, and earnestly asked fur, by the landowners; and if all the letters urging upon Mr. Labouchere the adoption of the measure which was ac ceded to in his letter were produced, the box on their Lordships' table would not contain them. Ile could not therefore accede to any request for a further ex tension of the time for the repayment of those advances. or for giving up any portion of such repay ments. The Noble Marquis had complained that these works had been most ineffectually done. The Marquis of WESTMEATH—OnIy in one in stance. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was rejoiced to hear that admission; but the real state cf . the case would appear from -the papers for which the Noble Marquis had moved, and to the production of which there was no objection. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER said the Noble MarquiS bad been imposed upone Many persons, who were totally incapable of doing a day's work, who could not properly use a spade, and who could scarcely stand, had been employed and paid for a regular day's work, be cause none of those who had the management of these works dared to refuse them. The Earl of MOUNTCASHELL complained of the manner in which persons bad been employed upon the roads. The reads bad been rendered worse than useless by the persons so employed. The effect of the poor-law in Ireland was to drive the ratepayers out of the country and to prevent the employment of the poor. The motion was then agreed to. The Bills on the table were forwarded a stage, and their Lordships adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, April 30. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a few minutes before Four o'clock. Sir R. H. INGLIS moved that the petition of Thomas Marsh Nelson, which was deposited in the Private Bill office upon the 29th day of this instant April, against the London (City) Improvements Bill, be referred to the Committee on the Bill ; and that the petitioner may be heard before the said Committee, pursuant to the prayer of his petition. After a short conversation, in which Sir J. DUKE and Mr. FORSTER took part, the motion was postponed fur the present. PETITIONS. Mr. BROTHERTON presented a petition in favour of international arbitration. Sir J. DUKE presented a petition from the ballast heavers of Wapping, praying the House to extend to them the same privilege as had been extended to the coal-whippers; aud also from a number of respectable inhabitants of that district, recommending them to the favourable noiice of the House. Mr. WILLIAMS presented a petition from a meeting at the Loudon Tavern, praying the House to pass some measure for the efficient supply of water to the metropolis. Colonel THOMPSON presented a petition from a parish in Middlesex praying the House to pass some cfradent Health Bill. Lord DUNCAN presented a petition in favour of a more equitable system of poor-rates. Mr. CAYLEY presented a petition in favour of the Marriage Bill ; also three petitions from Yorkshire in favour of protection to British industry. Alderman SIDNEY presented a petition from St. James's parish complaining of the unequal imposition of local burdens; also a petition from the attorneys of Leek, in Staffordshire, against the Stamp Act. Sir E. BUXTON presented a petition in favour of the ocean penny postage. Mr. FOX MAULE presented several petitions from places in Scotland against Mr. S. Wortley's Marriage Act. Mr. C. PEARSON presented a petition from Lan cashire in favour of the Ten Hours Bill. Lord ASHLEY presented several petitions to the same effect. Mr. P. WOOD presented a petition from the clergy of Norwich in favour of the Vestry Clerks' Bill. Numerous petitions from all parts of the country were presented against Sunday labour in the Post-office. Numerous petitions were also presented in favour of a system of national arbitration. Mr. HUME presented a petition from miners and pitmen in Durham and Northumberland, praying for a remedy to prevent accidents in mines and collieries; also a petition from Stepney in favour of a measure for sanitary reform; also a petition praying for a repeal of the taxes on knowledge, and a petitien.in favour of inter national arbitration. Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition from Stepney in favour of the Government measure for intramural interments. Mr. ELLICE presented a petition from Coventry against Sunday labour in the Post-office. Mr. 11011SMAN presented two petitions from Cum berland, one against granting `additional licences fir beer shops, and the other against Sunday labour in the Post-office. _ . ~Q. ~..•„_. Mr. PORTAL presented a petition complaining of agricultural distress, and praying for the repeal of the malt-tax. EMIGRATION OF PAUPERS. Mr, MILES gave notice that on the 28th of May he would move a resolution to the effect that it was expe dient for the Government, with the assistance and co operation of the b oar d s o f gua rdians, to take immediate steps to forward the emigration cf orphan children, who were the inmates of workhouses, to Australia. SUNDAY LABOUR IN THE POST-OFFICE. Lord ASHLEY gave notice of his intention on an early day to move a resolution to the effect that there shall be no labour carried on in the Post-office during the twenty-four hours of the Sabbath. SLAVE TRADE. Sir JOHN PAKINGTON gave notice that he should move an addition to the resolution to be proposed on the 17th of May, on the NAVY. ct of the slave trade. THE Mr. ANDERSON wished to put a question to the e medium ofpro - Ri g ht Honourable Ba ronet the F i rs t Lord of the Ad m iralty, of which h e had given him noti ce . practicability through the In the early p art of the last session a Committee w as appointed i to inquire nto viding a reserve steam n avy of the commercial stea m service of t he countr y , and, after a long investigation, the Committee came to the resolution that it was not only desirable but practicable. Twelve months had elapsed, and yet nothing had been done to carry out the recommenda tion of the Committee. He did not think, therefore, that ho vvas premature in now asking the First Lord of the Admiralty what means have been adopted to effect arrangements with the owners of mercantile steam-vessels to render such . vessels promptly available for the national defence in case of need, in pursuance of the report of the Select Committee of last session on steam navy. Sir F. BARING said, to carry out the suggestion, it would be necessary either to introduce a measure into Parliament to force merchant seamen, engaged in the commercial steam navy, to enrol themselves, so as to render them li a ble t o b e ca ll e d u p on to s erve in her Majesty's steam navy, or to take a vote of money to secure their voluntary services in a time of reed, and he certainly was not prepared to adopt either alternative, at least during the present session. LIGHTHOUSES IN IRELAND. Viscount BERNARD wished to sik the First Lord of the Admiralty, whether his attention had been called to the numerous wrecks which have occurred on the south western coast of Ireland during the last few years and whether any steps were about to b e tak en t o erect light houses on the Bull Rock, the Forge Rock, and the Gal ley Head, as recommended by the late Captain Wolfe, in a letter dated March 10, 1848 (Second Report, Tidal Harbours Commission). Sir F. BARING said the matter referred to in the Noble Lord's question was under the control of the Irish Government, end he had received ktOrrnation from the Pfdape • BnarsL that three new lighthouses were now in WEDNESDAY EVENING, MAY 1, 1850. other demands upon their funds, and at present th y could not undertake more.—(Hear, hear.) must also take into account the expenses which an Ambassador was necessarily expected to incur in the various countries where the public service required them to go.—(Hear.) Therefore they stand upon sepa rate ground facia al! other branches of the public ear vice. —(Hear.) He came next to the official gentlemen who held seats either in that or the other House of Parliament, who, he thought, he should be able to show stood altogether upon grounds apart from the great body of public servants who held perma nent offices in the various departments.—(Hear.) In the first place, those gentlemen w ere only in and out of office, and subject to a change by a thousand circum stances. But there was this peculiarity attached to their office, that while other servants of the Government were only required to work by day, the servants of the Crown in this and the other House cf Parliament were called upon to work by night as well as by day. Therefore, both ou the ground of not having permanent possession of their office, and of having to work by day and by night, he did draw a distinct line between those gentle men and all the other branches of the public service. If it was thought that the three branches of the public service, the army, navy, and ordnance, stood in need of revision, he wanted to know why it was that larger amounts of the public expenditure, which he should bring before their notice, were not also to be subject to revision and economy, if economy was proper. With respect to the army, navy, and ordnance, those estimates had been annually under the revision of Parliament itself. With respect to judicial offices and official salaries in this and t he other Houses of Parliament, those had been recently submitted to more recent discussion than the larger mass to which he should call their attention. Now, he knew there was a very large number of gentlemen, not only in this House, but out of it, who bad laid down the almost categori cal opinion that no economy could be practised and no saving could be made except in the warlike estab lishments of the country. Great countenance hail been given to that opinion, nut only by the Noble Lord the First Lord of the Treasury, but also by the late First Lord of the Treasury in his financial state went in 1845. He (Mr. Henley) could nut but think tliere was a deal of error in that state ment. When it was considered how large the expenditure of the country was, which never came under the review of Parliament at all, he thought it would be very difficult to show that if that large ex penditure were carefully looked into some con siderable saving might not be effected. He found that under the head of Customs, Ex cise, Stamps and Taxes, Pest-office, and Crown lands, according to a financial return for 1848 to 1849, the amount paid under the head of salaries and wages was no less than 2,818,000/, Ile found also by the same return the sum paid in various salaries to Com missioners was 271,0001.; the diplomatic salaries were 140,0001. ; and the salaries of officers in courts of justice amounted to no less than 1,970,924/.; making altogether the sum of 4,327,0001. odd, not one farthing of which ever came under the review of Par • liarnent.—(Hear.) Then in the navy, army, and ordnance, the return of salaries and wages of persons who had nothing to do with fighting men showed a sum of 1,500,0001.; for salaries in the commissariat 100.000/.• salaries in miscellaneous esti mates, 1,131,000/. go that there was of sala ries which came under the annual revision of Parliament a sum of about 2,647,000/. They had in addnion large sums paid in salaries under the control of Government, though not paid out of the public Exchequer. Taking the expenses of all the courts of law, they amounted to 500,000/. per annum, thus making a total amount of 7,000,000/. in civil salaries. He wished to call the attention of the House to the amount of what W9,S paid to the army, navy, and ordnance. The whole sum paid in round numbers was 6,500,0001., so that at least one million more was paid for civil salaries than to the army, navy, and ordnance; and yet they were told that it was quite impossible to sate anything out of the civil expenses, and that the only way was to go to the warlike expenditure.—(Hear, hear.) That seemed ti him very much like, to use a sporting phrase, giving a " false hollow" to distract attention, and turn inquiry from those items of expenditure where it was possible to make a good case. A gond deal had been said on this subject out of doors, and it was thought that the army was kept up for the benefit of the aristocratic branches of the community. But how did that stand ? Out of the army estimates 1,100,0001. went to the officers, and 2,200,000/. to the men. The men were generally taken from the unskilled labourers of the country. They got afu I share of the army employment. The Noble Lord at the head of the Government had held out that it was n A possible to save more in these estimates than they had done. Ile had made such and such reductions. He had saved 100,000/., and when opportuniny offered, he was going to do a great deal more. Similar language had been held out by the Right Honourable Baronet at the heed of the Government in 1845. Both Prime Ministers very much agreed, and that compelled him to look a little to the actual figures of the case as they stood when those statements were respectively made. The Noble Lord (Lord John Russell) stated, that since 1832, reductions had been made in the stamps and taxes whereby a saving was mede of 259,0001. No considerable reduction had been made since then. The Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) ead, he believed, made the statement in 1845, that it was their duty, to reduce these establishments so far as was consistent with the public convenience and utility, and due regard to economy, and that the revenue should be collected with the least possible cxpensh. But still, after that admission, and although the subject bad occu pied the attention of every Government, nothing effec tive had been done.—(Hear.) He went on to say that he thought it would be a delusion to suppose that they could materially reduce the public burdens by diminish ing the salaries paid to the civil officers of the state. But when be (Mr. Henley) had showed that they amounted to 7,000,000/., he thought he was justified in differing from him in opinion it, upon inspection, it should be thought just to reduce them.—(Hear, hear.) He wished to know how far the Government had realised savings? That he would show from public accounts. He came first in order with a statement of the compara tive expenditure of the country between the year 1838 and the year 1844. When the Right Honour able Baronet (Sir R. Peel) spoke in 1845, he was about to introduce very considerable modifications in the tariff, which they were led to suppose would bring about a very considerable saving. In 1838 the great branches of the public revenue, the customs, excise, stamps, and taxes, cost the country, in salaries and wages, 1,993,5151. He found that in 1844, at a time when they were told that great reductions had been made from time to time, and that the tariff had been re vised, and various articles struck out of it, yet the cost of collection had swollen up to 2,034,0001. That was no thing like a general reduction. But, further, there was a very material item of expenditure. He alluded to superannuation allowances, which should be taken into account, as well as the actual charge of salaries. In some cf the departments a great many persons were oc casionally discharged, and after a little while more were taken on; and so far from reducing these al lowances in 1844, as compared with 1838, there was an actual increase. From 228,0001., in the latter year, they bad swelled up in the former, to 254,000/. They had not only bad an increase in salaries, but in the su perannuation fund, so they bad it on the right and on the left. But that was nut all; the revenue collected in 1844 was larger than that in 1838, and yet the expense of collection, which was only five per cent. in the latter year, increased in 1844 to 51. 4s. 2d. per cent. Theta was an increased per centavo in the cost of collection in the excise and stamps. He was not able to make a comparison in the taxes. Having arrived at the year 1844 he wished to draw a comparison with the present year, but he did not find that there was a reduction. In the year 1844 they had the property-tax, which was on also now, and therefore a comparison might b 3 taken on all the four great branches of expenditure at this period. In the debate in 1845 they were promised distinctly by the First Minister of the Crown that, if they would con sent to the repeal of the auction duties the saving in the collection of the revenue would be very great. The Right Honourable Baronet (Sir Robert Peel), forget ting for a moment his usual caution, travelled some what out of his course, and said that, with regard to plate glass, if the duty was taken off there would be a saving in the cost of collection. The Chancellor of the' Exchequer said the same also with respect to the auc tion duty, but he found that the supposed saving did not reach the sum indicated. In 1844 the amount of sala ries in the four great departments or the revenue was 2,244,000 L, and, with the superannuation allowances, the amount was 2,288,5801. In 1848-9 the aggregate amount of salaries and superannuation allowances in the same departments was 2,294,6481. After allowing certain re ductions, the result of the comparison was, that they had 2,205,0001. against 2,218,000/. Therefore, all the mani fold savings from joining offices together in some in stances, and abolishing them altogether in others was, that they were now better by 83.4981. than they were in 1844. Taking one year with another, the whole expense did not decrease. Looking back twenty years, when there were nearly double the duties to collect, and indirect taxation had not been substituted for direct taxation, there was not that gain which they had a right to expect. He had dwelt more upon the collection of the revenue than upon the other branches of the public expenditure, because it was the largest, and it was most difficult to collect information respecting it. He had trespassed, perhaps, at too great length, upon the patience of the House, but it was not possible, without the dry detail of figures, to make the subject understood. The Government had not made out such a case of continued reduction in these items that they could show that further reductions could not take prace.—(Hear, hear.) At all events he had shown that with regard to the revenue, it could be carefully revised. With regard to Commissioners of Customs, they should consider hew far these Commissioners could come under this revision. Many of these Commissions should be inquired into. The Commissioners of Lunacy, for in stance, received 2,0001. a year salary. Why should they receive 2,0001. a year, and a county court judge only 1,000/.?—(Hear, hear.) It was impossible to say that many of these salaries needed no revision, or that many of them might not be abolished.—(Hear, hear.) He now came to another branch of the subject. He rejoiced at the course taken by the Noble Lord of suggesting inquiries upon such matters. It was ne cessary at periods to take a review of the affairs of na tions as well as those of individuals. It was beneficial occasionally to overhaul their affairs. Unless the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) had seen something special in their circiamstances he would not have adopted that course. He (Mr. Henley) was not one of those who attributed the existing depression to recent legislation. There was certainly extreme depression, but he did not intend to go into that ; but it was perfectly jast and legitimate to show that it was mainly owing to two great causes; first, the great alteration in the value of money; and, secondly, to the consequent decrease in the rate of interest, which bad thus the effect of lowering the rate of profit, and inimulatiag competititim—(Hour, hear.) 1 All these things made it extremely uifficult for rersons of small capital to make sufficient gain to support - • e _nu— ....4 thaw% rtarißOS Of MEMBERS' OATHS. Mr. WOOD asked the First Lord of the Treasury whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to propose any measure, during the present session, with reference to the oaths now administered to Members on taking their seats in this House. Lord JOHN RUSSELL had to say fiat it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce a measure on that subject during the present session of Parliament. He would take an opportunity, so soon as public business admitted, of stating the precise nature of the measure before it was introduced. EVICTIONS IN IRELAND. Mr. POULETT SCROPE asked the First Lord of the Treasury,;whether he was aware that a vast number of ejectment decrees had been recently served on a single estate in the county of Galway, whereby several thousand persons are liable to be in one day forced from their homes, and their houses levelled ; that in that and several other counties of Ireland evictions and house-levellings on a similar wholesale scale have been for souse time past, and are still going on; and if the opinion of the law officers of the Crown had been taken as to whether such depopulations, whereby large bodies of her Majesty's subjects are at once deprived of shelter and livelihood, and many (as may be easily proved) of life, be not ilhgal, and a high crime and misden: concur by the ancient common law of the realm? Lord J. RUSSELL said he had no official information respecting the number of evictions which had taken place in Ireland, and he saw that the Irish newspapers which discussed this subject were very much at variance both as to the extent of the evictions and as to the persons who carried them into effect. It was certainly not his intention to submit any case to the law officers of the Crown on this subject—indeed he thought it would be exceedingly difficult for the law officers to give an opinion upon the point mentioned by the Honourable Member. NAVY ESTIMATES. Colonel CHATTERTON EtA;eolie First Lord of the Admiralty, seeing the sum of 538,6421. charged in the Navy Estimates for the years 1849-50, under the head of " Victuals for Seamen and Marines," what portion of that sum had been paid, or now remains due, to houses in England, Ireland, and foreign houses in the provision trade, for the supply of beet and pork for her Majesty's navy. Sir F. BARING said it would be difficult and inju dicious to apportion the sums among the different houses in England and Ireland. DUTY ON WHEAT. In answer to a questtion from Mr. NEWDEGATE, who complained of certain inaccuracies in the returns presented to Parliament of the duty received on the im• portation of wheat, Mr. LABOUCHERE said he was sorry to say that the Hon. Gentleman bad fallen into error in the method of his calculations. It would require a more detailed statement than he could at present lily before the House to explain them, but be would jut mention one instance. The accounts which the Hon. Gentleman alluded to were from the sth of January to the sth of February, and not from the first of the month, as be had stated. Of those, up to the 31st of January, corn entered at 10s., and the remainder at is. duty. After a short conversation, the matter was allowed to drop, Mr. LABOUCHERE expressint , a perfect con& deuce that the Hon. Gentleman would find that the re- turns were cornet after he had perused the stztemen which he would lay on the table of the House. PRE OGAIItV7Ii COURT—aFFICE OF REGISTRAR. Sir B. HALL rose to put a question to the Noble Lord at the head of the Government with reference to the office of the registrar of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, which he said was a sinecure office, the Emo luments of which amounted to 12,0001 per annum. The Archbishop of Canterbury had the power of appointing to the office, and also of nominating two others in re version. Archbishop Moot° had appointed his two sons, Thomas and Robert Moore, the latter of whom now held it, having succeeded his brother in 1845. Along with the registrarship he believed that gentle man also held a prebend stall, and two rectories, having a net income of 14,0001. per annum. Dr. Manners Sutton, while he was Archbishop, had appointed the present Viscount Canterbury, his grandson, then twelve years old, to the reversionary inte:est, while the late Arch bishop, Dr. Howley, had declined en conscientious grounds to make any appointment at all. The questions which he wished to ask were, whether the present Archbishop had not filled up the vacant reversionary interest with the name of the son of the present Bishop of Winchester, and what the age of that sun was; and, also, whether it was the intention of the Government, in conformity with the provisions of an Act passed in 1847, to introduce any measure for the purpose of revising those appointments? Lord J. RUSSELL said, as the Right Hon. Baronet had given notice of his question, he had obtained in formation on the subject to which it referred, and he found that Mr. John Moore es as appointed to the office by the late Archbishop Moore, and that Robert Moore was appointed to hold it in reversion after the death of his brother. It appeared, as the Right Honourable Baronet had truly stated, that the late Archbishop Howley did not fill up the vacancy which occurred during his lifetime.—(Hear. hear.) He (Lord J. Rus sell) could not say whether the Archbishop made any communication to her Majesty's Government on the subject, but he remembered perfectly well that in a conversation which he had had vvith (him, the Archbishop mentioned that an office had become vacant, to which he did not intend to make an appointment, but he did not state the nature of the office. It appeared likewise that the second reversion of the office had since been given by the present Arch bishop to his nephew, Mr. Sumner, who was a young man now studying at the Temple. (A. laugh.) With respect to the existing law, as it affected that appointment, he might state, a Bill was introduced and passed into a law in 1847 , hich provided that all appointments subsequently made in the Ecclesiastical Courts, should be taken subject to any regulations which might afterwards be made by Parliament, either as to their alteration or abolition.—(Hear, hear.) The nature of the office in question was at present under going inquiry by a Select Committee of the House and it appeared to him (Lord J. Russell) to be one of those offices which, when Parliament dealt with the sub ject, would either be abolished, or so altered that the person holding it should perform efficient duties. — (Hear, bear.) It appeared to him, likewise, that the enormous salary mentioned by the Right Honourable Baronet must be abolished, and, by the provisions of the Act to which he alluded, the person holding the office in reversion would be entitled to no compensation whatever. Sir B. HALL then gave notice that on Thursday next he would move for certain returns connected with the officers of the ecclesiastical courts in England and Wales. Mr. HORSMAN gave notice that on the same day he would put a question to the Noble Lord (Lord J. Rus sell) respecting the purchase, by the Ecclesiastical Com mission, of the Bishop of Gloucester's interest in the estate of Hasvfield (as we understood). DRAINAGE BILL/. In reply to Mr. DISRAELI, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the Bill which he had mentioned in his financial statement respecting drainage would be laid on the table of the House in two or three days. OFFICIAL SALARIES. Mr. HENLEY then rose to move that an humble ad dress be presented to her Mejesty, humbly to request that she would be graciously pleased to direct that . a careful revision be made of the salaries a nd wages paid in every department of the public service, with a view to a just and adequate reduction thereof, due regard being had to the efficient performance of the several duties. He believed this subject had not been to ass fullest ex tent brought undor revision since the year 1821. This House then voted an address to the Throne on the then circumstances, calling for a revision of the salaries paid to all members of the service, and praying for a re duction of the numbers employel. That motion was afterwards referred, by minutes of the Trea sury, to the heads of the various departments, and i more alterations and reductions too k place n conse quence. That measure was afterwards followed up by a Committee of the House, which bad r eferred to its consi deration the salaries paid the officials who held seats either in that or in the other House of Parliament, which was somewhat analogous to the Committee which was appointed a short time ago. Another Committee appointed in the same year took cognizance of the various officers who had heretofore been paid out of the Civil List, and who from that time were thrown upon the Consolidated Fund. These Committees led to re ductions, but not of a great extent., and since that time there had been no further dealing with the sub ject. It would, however, be in the recollection of the House that about two years ago the present Government thought it right to refer the expenditure of the two great branches of the public sery to the consideration of a Committee of this House, and ice he thought that of itself was a pretty strong indication that there was some thing special in the times to induce the Government of the country to take so very unusual a course. It chanced to him to have the honour of sitting on one of those Com mittees, but while the report of the Committee on the army estimates recommended reductions in the heads of departments, that of the Navy Committee was altogether silent on the subject; that brought them down to what took place the other day, when the Noble Lord at the head of the Gcvern meat brought forward a motion which was carried to refer certain limited branches of the service to a Select Committee. With what view the Noble Lord made that motion he did not know. He did not know whether the Noble Lord thought any increase or any reduction were necessary, because the Noble Lord did not tell them ; but he could hardly suppose that the Noble Lord had any other object but a reduction in view. But, however that might be, ho would state shortly to the House the branches of the public service which the Noble Lord selected in the consideration of this Committee. They were first the offices held by gentlemen who held seats either in that, or the other House of Parliament; then there was the diplomatic corps ; and, lastly, there where what were called judicial offices. Now, he was prepared to show that each of these separate branches stand upon special grounds, which some other branches (lid not. He would take first in order the judicial salaries. Now since reference must be had to the remunera tion received by eminent men practising in the same profession of equal dignity, that was an important element which must enter into the consideration of the question of whet ought to be paid to au eminent adv,scate on undertaking a judicial office, and therefore he maintained that this branch of the public service stood upon grounds of its own.—(Bear, hear.) He now came to the diplo matic service. Ot course a separate element which must cuter into the consideration of that question must be - . s —an eal ability from. necessity rendering any fixed salary infinitely ; ment, and also what had been done by the Government more valuable than it was twenty years ago, this to a ldch ho belonged. Reduction, in fact, had been applied equally to salaries as well as to income derived goiee on from year to year, and from day to day, for from other sources. Now, in addition to this, he should a long period, and a gradual revision was constantly not bo considered to trench upon his privilege when he in process. In 1835 a return was moved for by his said that the legislation of the last three or four years lion. end Gallant Relative the Member for Lincoln — had been carried on so as to secure the present low prices (Laughter)---and by that return the House would in every article of consumption. When the interest of rem that while the official salaries in 1815 amounted the public debt increased so much for the last twenty to 3,700,0004,in 1835 they amounted only to 2,700,0001.0 years, he considered that the income must have increased or 1,000,000/. less in twenty years. And if they had in proportion to enable the Government to pay such increased in amount since then, it was because addi high salaries to so great a number of officials as were at tienal labour had been thrown upon the public depart present employed. He would not dwell any further on mentt, and because various duties were now performed this point, but refer to the case of emigration, which was by the central government which had previously been well worthy the consideration of the House, as it tended performed by the several local authorities of the country to show that while the officials of Government were fat- Referring to the Treasury, Hon. Gentlemen would see teniag on the income of the country, the people were that this department, and those offices which were shad forced to seek for sustenance in a foreign land, posed to be the f a vo u rite p atrona g e of the Ministers, had and that, naturally, much against their inch- undergone great reduction. Excluding the lowest class nation ; and be would ask to what was that of clerks (supernumeraries and others), it appeared that attributable ? The only answer that he would whereas in 1821 the duties were discharged by 38 per venture to give was, to compare the number of enai- sons, with an aggregate salary of 42,9601, in 1849 they grants in the years 1843 and 1848. In the former year were discharged by 29 persons, with an aggregate salary there were only 26,000, but in the latter there were no of only 24,6301, being a reduction of 1800/. and UP less than 248,000. Again, he would call the attention wards in 30 years. Again, in 1821, there were three of the House to the state of crime and the Dumber of separate boards of customs for the three kingdoms, with criminals in the years 1831 and 1848. In 1831 there 21 Commissioners in all, who received tin aggregate saw were only 19,601; in the latter year, 30,349. While he ]cry of 29,5001. In 1849 there were, however, only . eight admitted that the population had much increased he Commissioners for the united empire, and their eatariee. could not at the same time admit that there wes city amounted but to 10,900/. In a few months there wood proportion between the increase of population and tin' be another Commissioner reduced: this was a reduction: increase of criminals. This is also a feature worthy the of considerably more than half. Again, in this s ave's' consideration of the House, and worthy of being traced boards of inland re ven u e, in 1821 there were 41 Com te its proper source. He would next direct their att n- miseioners, who were paid salaries equal to 42,531 1 ; tion to the (Bch' value of imports and exports, for in at present there were only eight, whose salaries 1828 the official value of exports amounted to only amounted to 11,200/., and one of that number would 22 000,000/., and of imports to 36,000,0001.; whereas in also be shortly reduced. Altogether 75 superior apt° 1848 the exports amounted to 132,000,0001., and the int- pointmente had be en reduced, with salaries amounting r ports to only 52,000,000/. This showed that the pro- 60,2801. a year, since 1821, by each succeeding Govern duce of the country is fast failing, and that there is went since that period. E v en in the last two y ears there something requisite to be done by a Government that eat leen a reduction in the salaries cf the Treasury derives so great an income from the revenue accruing quivalent to 5,0001. a year—from 1847 to 1849. It was from such an increase of revenue; and it also affords not, therefore, quite fair of the Hon. Gentleman to ien sufficient grounds for considering why so many needle- plicate the Government as unmindful of that economy women, tailors, shoemakers, and other tradesmen are which they professed, and which the House was anxious depressed and penniless, for the value of their work in to carry out, or in that respect at all neglectful of their 1831, 1843, and 1844 was ten times more than in 1848. duty. His (the Chancellor of the Exchequer's) Noble When the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) some time Friend had stated the amount of reduction since 1833 since stated that there were several articles that ob- by the various consolidations of offices that had taken& tained a higher price at present than in any of those place. The number of persons reduced was 2,000, and. years alluded to, he should say in reply that they were she annual expense saved was over a quarter of a mil , not more than four in number, whereas there were nu- lion. At this moment the Paymaster of the Treasury menus others that suffered materially. He would call in old public servant, Sir A. Spearman, and the Secre the attention of the House to those home articles that tary cf the Treasury, were engaged, as they have been were so much depreciated. The articles he (Mr. Henley) for some time past, in revising salaries. The first report alluded to on which a reduction was mule in 1848.9 they made recommended reductions to the extent of were—first, bread, on which 17 per cent. was lost; next 65,000/ a year in the cost of the customs revenue; and groceries, on which was lost 25 per cent.; cotton, 30 per their second, which was not ea adopted, but which cent.; wool, 10 per cent.; beer, 20 per cent.; shoes, 7 per would no doubt be carried into effeco recommended cent.; together with several other articles whic h he could further reduction of 7,0001. per annum. Therefore , enumerate hut that he did not wish to trespass too much on when the Hon. Gentleman said that in some in — the attention cf the House. He therefore could not agree stances the customs establishment was not reduced ia• with the Noble Lord, for the appreciation of the one or conformity with the reduction that had taken place two two articles that he (Lord J. Russell) had previous]) the customs duties on various articles, it was fitting Igo referred to were of a recent period. His principal ob. should know that certain portions of this establishment'. ject in making that motion was to show that ther e was were obli g ed to be kept up for the accommodation of. a general cry throughout the country for more work, the import and export of goads to and from this country' sad as one of the trustees of the public he would never He was sorry to trouble the House with what bad beet e be found to flinch from his duty, particularly as it was tone in various departments, but as the Hon. Gentle a matter of very great importance in a commercial point tnan appeared to have lost sight of the reductions the t of view, and should his opinion be erroneous he had only had occurred, he would briefly enumerate some of then a to console himself that it was not from design, but in the In the Pay-office the offices of paymaster of the cite discharge of a sacred duty that he erred. He hop ed he icrvice end the exchequer-bill audit had been con. would not he understood to make any unfair or unjust fated under one head, and the saving in these vibe es allusion to the men at present in authority—for them alone; was 16,000/. yearly. The Honourable Dilecaher personally he felt bound to say that he held the highest had ref reed to she expenses of collection, and the seilaele 3 respect—but hoped they would consider that as the of those employed, in relation to the revenue. Be had times cbanged so ought Governments. Ho knew that already stated that the diminution of revenue mad cent there were many applications from boards of guardians of collection are nut always in proportion, bewauee, in various localities for the reduction of the expenses of in particular cases, it was found necessary to lit ep the country, and should this question be staved off, and up establishments for the protection of the lenient is, that any oepression should come on the people, he felt It did not, therefore, follow that a reduction of sever al° assured that Governmenment should adopt some plan enabled Government always to reduce the charge of CA' similar to his for the relief and satisfaction of the public. lectior. Government, however, had made consider dill These were his reasons for bringing the questio n before reductions during the last two years, from the stb. 0.1 the notice of the House, and he had to thank t hem for Januar y , 1848, to the sth of January, 1850, as Ti• )0/P their kind indulgence. be proved by a comparison with the last of the two ?re- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said her rious years: — 'Majesty's Government had shown that they were not at In the year 1847, the charge for collecting the mist• arolg all indisposed to the ostensible object of the Hon. Gen- was ... £5 19 6 per c aft' tleman's motion; but, at the same time, they could not In 1849 it was ... 515 5f ~ conceive the motive of the Hon. Gentleman for bringing The charge for the excise was, in 1847 6 711 ~ it forward at that moment. If the Government had In 1849 it Wl3 ..• ••• 513 6 ~ been negligent in revising the public establishments, or For the stamps, in 1847, it was ... 2 1 5 ,s if they and those who preceded them had not exercised In 1849 it was •... 2 0 7de e ,s economy in point of reduction of expense y ear after For taxes, in 1847, it was 3 6 year, his Noble Friend and he would not be indisposed In 1849 it was ... ... 3 5 0 , almost to acquiesce in the motion of tho Hon. Gentle- there was no very material variation in the cost of e'er man; but when they felt that this was a course that had lecting the stamps and taxes, but in the other brancbel been pursued by them for a long period, and also b 3 of revenue the reduction had been considerable. In db r c their predecessors in office, that large reductions had xcise, however, it amounted to about 14s. per cent. 11:1 been effected, as was stated on another occasion by hie the course of the last two years, and Hun. Gentlerae P Noble Friend, he could not see that the motion had an y who knew how to calculate this reduction per col°. • other object than to express a censure which the Go- would know that it would in the aggregate amount CO .1 vernment felt they did not deserve, or to create confusion very large sum indeed. These reductions, as he had Set' in the case, which the Government could not coun. before, bad also been effected in the lace of a consider teuance. He (the Chancellor of th e Exche q uer) able increase of business; for it was well known to 01°2 e a hardly knew what the Hon. Gent leman meant who p aid attention to the subject that a great increar by his motion. He had gone into a number and p ressure of business had occurred in all those do°. of topics, altogether unconnected with th e q ues- partntents. From the highest official to the lowest civ il ': tion et issue ; and when he (the Chancellor of a great amount of additional work had to be perfornie°' the Exchequer) had come down to answer the Hon. them again, it was difficult to say what the pre° Gentleman on the subject of salaries , he w as com p elled amount of salar y ought to be; but lookin g to the mils" to answer also the Hon. Gentleman on the subject cf cies paid by other great establishments in the CI: prices, though he had no notice to enable him to pre - an estimate mi g ht be made to show whether t_ei pare for so doing. The Hon. Gentleman had taken as salaries paid by Government were too high, comps a test the price of haberdashery, and by that test had with the salaries received by persons in private eSt i) : endeavoured to prove his case. But it should be borne elishineets. If a scale of private salaries were furnished' in mind that a great proportion of that article which was the House would then see whether those establish originally prepared by hand , was n o w p re p ared b e meats were carried on at a less expense than the Gu; machinery, in Glasgow and other places. W hen, there- vernment establishments. He believed it would be folio' fore, the Hon. Gentleman argued on that hypothesir, ht that quite the contrary was the fact. He found the el; was utterly and entirely mistaken in hls premises, and: dense of the salaries of all descriptions paid by the the also in his conclusions. The Hon. G entleman had coin- of England amounted to 211,000/. a year. N ow plained of the distress of that large class of poor persons whole of the salaries and wages paid for the er living by needlework, and stated that the tailors said penses of the Treasury, the Home-office, the Foreigti: their throats were cut by their wives and children; office, the Colonial-office, the Privy Con° ° , e 'd t and he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) learned frou affice, Office of the Board of Trade, and S' e t, these persons that the great cause of the depression was Education Department, amounted together to 238• 00 ",,t the low price for making soldiers' clothes. But if All the great offices of the country only ° P ,` . O the proposition of the Honourable Gentleman was in wages and salaries 20,000/. per annum more-than adopted, there wou ld be a still further depression -.um paid by the Bank of England. No one aft er tht ; in that respect, and those who lived by making these could say that the expense of those public departur e° ,, articles would be muc h worse off than before.—(Cries of was greater by comparison than the expense of privPt " Oh, oh.") Their di s t ress in fact would be a g era- establishments. The highest salaries in Governor 0$ vated rather than lessened by its adoption. The Hon. ,ffices varied from 2 000/. to 2,500/, and there were Gentleman seemed to blame his (the Chancellor of the more than six or eight at that scale,—exclusi ve, Exchequer's) Noble Friend (Lord J. Russell) for stating , ourse, of solicitors, who were paid in pro portion K. , that many items in the expenditure of clerks with 120/ . earnings of other professionals of their Web, a year under the Government had not diminished of fake the East India Com p an y , an establishments 'Ohio. late years, but how far was the lion. Gentleman justi- more nearly than any ot her app roached the °t-et, fled in so doing? It was perfectly true that the price of racter of a Government establishment. The secretn'l many articles that necessarily entered into the consump- of the India Company had a sa l ary o f 2,400 L, Iv° of tion of a person of that salary had not only not dimi- house; this was higher than the highest paid officer t h e nished, but had actually increased. Potatoes , fur i u the Government. Several officers bad 2,000/. al ° o ll stance, and other matters. He (the Chancellor of the several others 1,500/., and others had 1,0001 a Ye 3r ; h en Exchequer) held in his hand a return of the expendi• of which, in proportion to the duties, were higher Vi l e ture of the Marylebone Workhouse in 1849, as corn- the rate paid in the Government establishments. pared with that of 18 43 , and he found b y that return secretaries of many of the dock companies and raiirdieg that the average cost of supporting e ach p au p er had com p anies had very large salaries, some excee rive considerably increased, including o f course food, fuel, 2,000/. a year. The secretary of the St. liarh P ,, te e lighting, medical attendance, &c. In 1843 the average Dock Company ha d 2,000/. a y ear and a house to 11!:0 eg rate for each individual in that establishment was 4s. and several railroad secretaries had salaries 11°, 11 ' he ete &id. per week; in 1849 it was 55. 04d. In 1849 the high. Since he had been in the House a paper hattiwitwe Price of wheat was higher t h a n in 1843. The other placed in his hand, showing the expenses of a large 'O, principal items of expenditure stood as follows: don establishment—that of a brewer. In 1846 Ol e o gle 1843. 1849. - penses for salaries and wages were 9,6051., and tiii) r rea F10ur..... 345. 101. per sack Potatoes. 965. Od. per ton lo7s. 6d. —there were the same number of persons employ de vet° Oatmeal.. 1 ls. Od. per cwt 1 is. 4td. as at the above period—and their expense in 18' 0 . 1 00' Therefore, in his (the Chancellor of the Exchequer's) 10,049 L, showing an actual increase for the same 013 ,70 r, opinion, his Noble Friend was full y j ustified in stating of persons, notwithstanding the cheapness of lloPliees' that upon many of the items that compose the necessa- titles of necessity, of 1,3441. per annum. Two addit 4 91. ries of life there had been no reduction, while the in- persons had been taken on, whose salaries were t t crease of what was called the gr e e n- g rocer's bill more more than the sum he had named. This was the resllow than compensated for any reduction that had taken place be gathered from a reference to a private eat s/ 10 0 , in other items of inevitabl e ex p enditure. Ile Oh( meet, the proprietors of which had every tad ne ti p ierit Chancellor of the Exchequer) stood in a very painful to get their work well done on the most econ°oooe and unpleasant position in this m atter, for he was con- terms. In the instance he had quoted it had bee n o stantly appealed to, by the very p e r sons who would tell necessary not to make reductions, but to lucre° hied' him that salaries should be reduced, respecting the hard- pay of those to whom the practical portion of th e ' e s e al e ship of individual cases of clerks in the em p lo y of Go- ness was entrusted. He would now read to the d'ee vernment, and those who reproached him most ,in that the consequences which had followed an attempt°e th° House for not reducing them were those who com p lained that which the Hon. Member sought to enforce )1° most strongly of these cases of hardship at his office. House, or rather to force upon the Government:o It was no pleasant thing to carry into effect motions such would read a short extract from the report of ° t iler as that of the Hon. Gentleman, and the pain that he rectors of the Great Western Railway Come ° i9 ° II felt in doing so was not, he could assure the House, at trative of the consequences that had followed fri t ee ° all lessened by the imputations of cruelt y which were attempt to reduce the salaries of their servants b e Geo; freely indulged in on those occasions. The principle, point that was considered fair and just. The 1 1 ° P ; t however, upon which the Goverment proc eeded,was not demean opposite cheered, but he WAS not awar e th dl' ' s r o as laid down by the Honour able Gentleman. way companies were more unlikely to reduce vas He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) believed ture than other parties; on the contrary, he / I r e a c e that a general reduction such as that Hon. much inclined to think that railway companies w t tb Gentleman proposed would not be wise or just. He tuated by as lively a sense of their own interes"repor; believed, on the contrary, that to exact a greater amount Hon. Gentleman himself could possibly be. T i ll Oc he , of labour for existing payments, and to reduce future tip- was dated April, 1850; it stated—" It is wi t to S on ' pointments, was a mode far more conducive to the ad- regret the board feels bound by their dull e sr„, vantage of the public service, as well as a far wiser proprietors to represent that the 5 11 °,f „ 0 , 0 1 0 and more just economy. But the Government had not rienco of a few months has realised tt e " e d Pi t been negligent in the matter of reduction of salaries prehensions. Since the reduction was nett e " e o 'oo 4 either—not of existing salaries, because they believed whole establishment has become unsettled; t e u t : To be te that would be unjust—but in the case of appointments and principal clerks, with few exceptions , b ee ts made upon the relinquishment of situations—uniformly seeking other employment; some valuable s ereet ei P ep , giving the successor to such situation less than his pre- quitted, and others are about to leave the s erl ei c cles" eff, decessor, and imposing upon him more duties. That was has the effect of the reduction been confined ° eel 0 00_ 0 true economy. To reduce salaries when greater exer- to those whose salaries were reduced; for ` seve h; P re° o l ' tions were required of persons long in office under Go- in despair of improving their position in s _ e ve c eet j vernment, would be, in his opinion, to act cruelly towards service, have also resigned, to obtain more ltlet to e those parties. The Government was bound to stand by ployment elsewhere. The directors have eotelPlies them under such circumstances, and to protect them by practical proof that serious prejudice to tn7 e to ot o f all the means in their power. The Honourable Gentle- has arisen, and they apprehend that still mor seur eac e er man seemed to have omitted all reference to those higher sue, unless steps be now taken to give some ° w hich ;o, salaries which formed the subject before the Committee an established scale of salary and pay uP° P , o f ser t ielf appointed by his (the Chancellor of the Exc he q uer's) , officers and servants can rely. If lengtuee esseo,4o Noble Friend; therefore be (the Chancellor of the Ex- with g reat experience and proved ability,wail to chequer) should say nothing about it. In regard to the in managing affairs towards the prosperityinOt other salaries, he acquiesced, as did also his Noble of any important undertaking, success * a. mete I!, oe s Friend, in the principle of the amendment of the Hon. be attained by the discouragement o e f tu l c u tioo or de' Member for Buckinghamshire, that it was the duty of whom so much depends, nor can a r be' the Government, on their own responsibility, to introduce lanes be expected to counteract Pe w. , tee l e the measures that might be necessary for effecting every pression in times of difficulty.”— reduction tn the national establishments, consistent with lieved the statement of the directors of c .l i n e r d l „, ge to r I the efficient discharge of the public service; but perfectly true, and he was further satisfi ho believed that it would not be consistent with measure of reduction, such as that of t t t a rc ieu ee, t. ; f a the efficient discharge of the public service to reduce, opposite, was likely to be adopted by would P° generally, as the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Ox- great discouragement to public servants be re _ o , ford proposed, the salaries of all public servants. He take place, but that valuable servants did not say that on making any new app it away from their situations, and thus great Qe rvlu alear,th. e r_liwayoeft.si would be unjust to make them It a reduced rate of sa- able injury would be inflicted on to °°` the b ref lary; but he did think it would be cruel to persons who (Hear.) He only wished to refer , 3 „ ed , e 0 had been. thirty or forty years in the public service to because Hon. Gentlemen sometimes t lace 43f 131 sees t e e p u 2 ca lte d i- or itiroo; turn round upon them and reduce them now. A great increase of salaries which had taken p Act ha .cossi deal was said about reduction; but how would that prin- as compared with times gone by- e A I- _, Salar e t,.. l ! cipla apply to the lowest class of clerks in the public brought in which was in the natv B _ o , t and the souit ies e offices? Those persons were not paid io well even as pensation Act. This was in 1 menial servants. Was the House of Commons prepared question would afford means of con 5. _„ tr dee to be unmindful of the service of this excel and able then with these which persons holding enotti ete asel or t gi ele class of public servants? With regard to a reduction of now urjying. s, too, dto bY t he ' of 11 ed eipenses, he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) woold produced on the currency refeteraenk ° t ; ast i n g the th e i cr oi just point out what had been done in past years by the G . eetlemau, and before the 1 . 3 , e _ rec i a t e d cv 'lovernment which bad preceded the present Govern- when payments were wade in P Taiwas beforertehstertioiozeo, 11