The Sun. — London, England, 1850-07-20 00:00:00

MACKINTOSH ESTATE BILL. The Committee of the" Lords on this Bill sat for the second time yesterday; the Earl of Shaftesbury in the chair. The ether members of the Committee were th i Pearl of Eglinton, the Earl of Colchester, and Lord Redesdale. Mr. Hope and Mr. Sergeant Bellasii, and Mr. Rich ardson (Parliamentary agent) appeared for the promoters; and the petitioners against the Bill were represented by Mr. Andrews, and Mr. Webster (Parliamentary agent). The object of the Bill is to effect certain changes in the management of the Academy of Inverness, and for alienating a large portion of the Education Trust Fund, commonly called the Macintosh Fund, for the general purposes of the institution. This fund, which originally amounted to 22,0001., was left by Captain Mackintosh, by his will, dated sth October, 1797, to be invested in lands in the burgh of Inverness, in the name of the magistrates of Inverness, for the purpose of educating boys of the name of Mackintosh. The petitions against the Bill were signed by about e 0 persons, bearing the name of Mackintosh, being members cf the families of Farr, Holm, Dalmi gavie, and Kyllochy, or their descendants and nearest of kin; also by several of the trustees of the fund, and a number of residents in Inverness. They stated that the Inverness Academy was now, and had been ade quate to afford to the bursars of Captain Mackintosh's endowment, a good and respectable education, and that the present Bill would be highly unjust to the numerous parties who had a vested right and interest in the fund. After the reception of the necessary documentary evidence, Mr. Colquhoun, advocate and sheriff-substitute, and one of the directors of the school, gave it as his opinion that the school, as at present constituted, did not afford a sufficient amount of education to the bur sars, and he attributed this to the small amount of remuneration which was given to the masters and teachers. Considerable mismanage ment was shown in the manner in which the scholars were lodged in the town, and on one occa sion he found a boy living in a public-house, and another in the same room with his sister. In consequence of the state of the school, the number of scholars attending it had been considerably diminished. Cross-examined by Mr. ANDREWS—SeveraI excellent rival schools had been established lately in the town, and they might have drawn away some of the scholars. At present there were 184 scholars, but he believed the number in attendance had been at one time as large as 230. He had attended the examination of the pupils and signed certificates eulogistic of the way in which they had acquitted themselves. Two or three of the Mackin tosh boys had been sent to the University, and they had honorably distinguished themselves there. Mr. McDonald, minister ;of the High Church, at Inverness, and Moderator of the Presbytery, said he had been educated at the schcol, and bad for some years directed his attention to its management. The course of education was limited, the means of instruction scanty, and the encouragement to teachers not such as was likely to secure the services of able and efficient men. There was a rector and three masters, and the number of scholars was between 150 and 160. There was no drawing-master, nor any master of the English language, or of natural philosophy. The school was not in as good a state as when he was a scholar, the number of teachers being fewer and the attendance of scholars more limited. In his opinion an outlay of 3001. annually would be required to make the school efficient and prosperous. Cross-examined by Mr. ANDREWS—When he at • tended the school Homer and Demosthenes were read by the pupils of the classical class, but they were not read now, or, if so, by a very limited few. This concluded th© case for the promoters. The Rev. Mr. Clack was then cal!el by the oppo nents to the Bill. He was the oldest member of the Presbytery at Inverness, where he had been a minister of the High Church for twenty-eight years. He entered the academy as a student in 1807, and he believed that as good an education was given now as at any period during his acquaintance with it. All the teachers were as accomplished in their several branches of learning as any of their predecessors. The di minu• tion in the number of scholars was to be attributed to the fees being higher than those of the Free Cnurch School end the Bell's School. The number of Mackin tosh scholars was now ten, and if the Bill were passed, thqt number, he thought, would be diminished to six. He believed that the object of the test ttor was to elevate the whole clan of the Mackintoshes, and that had been accomplished by the persons who had had the management of the fund. Some of the boys who had been educated in the school were now doctors of me• dicine, and others occupied eminent positions; but all derived great benefit from their education, and had not only done honour to themselves, but had elevated the character of the clan to which they belonged. If the school was in need of improvement, it could be done by the trustees without an Act of Parliament. Mr. John Inner Mackintosh, a surgeon, residing in North Lincolnshire, said he had been educated as a bursar of the school, and he believed it to ba an effi cient and well-conducted institution. The course of education pursued would fit a person for any station in life, and was quite equal to that given to the higher branches of the Mackintosh family. The Committee adjourned until Tuesday next, at ono o'clock. FROM THE LONDON GAZETTE OF FRIDAY. FOREIGN-OFFICE, JULY 17, 1850. The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. Ed ward Wallerstein as Consul-General in London for the Republic of Costa Rica. DOWNING-STREET, JULY 19. The Queen has bean pleased, by letters patent under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom, to re-constitute the Bishopric of Quebec, and to direct that the same shall comprise the district of Quebec, Three Rivers, and Gan 6 only, and be called the Bishopric of Quebec; and her Majesty has been pleased to name and appoint the Right Reverend Father in God George Jehosaphat Mountain, Doctor in Divinity, heretcfore Bishop of Montreal, to be Bishop of the said see of Quebec. Her Majesty has also been pleased, by letters patent under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom, to consti tute so much of the ancient diocese of Quebec as com prises the district of Montreal, to be a Bishop's see and diocese, to be called the Bishopric of Montreal, and to name and appoint the Reverend Francis Fulford, Doctor in Divinity, to be ordained and consecrated Bishop of the said see of Montreal. Her Majesty has alio been pleased to appoint Nathaniel Hart, Eeq., to be her 141ajesty's Treasurer, and Robert Shany Harper, Esq., to be Provost Marshal, for the island of St. Christopher. Her Mljesty has been farther pleased to appoint Johannes Cornelius Schade, Esq., to be Financial Ac countant for the colony of British Guiana. WHITEHALL, JULY 18. Her Majesty has been pleased to present the Reverend Duncan .Mackenzie to the church and parish of Geir loch, in the presbytery of Lochcarron, and county of Russ, vacant by the deposition of Mr. John Campbell, late minist,.r thereof. CROwN•OFFICE, JULY 18. MEMBERS RETURNED TO SERTE IN THIS PRESENT PA RLIAXENT. Borough of Devonport—Sir John Romilly, Knight, her Majesty'sAttorney-General. To..vn of Southampton—Alexander James Edmund Coeliburn, Esq., her M:josty's Solicitor-General. WAR-OFFICE, JULY 19. 6th Regiment of Dragoon Guards—Eusign and Lieu tenant Charles Thomas Lindow, from the Ist or Grena dier Regiment of Foot Guards, to be Lieutenant, vice Phillimore, who exchanges, July 19. lit or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards—Lieute nant William Brough Phiilimore, from the 6th Dragoon Guards, to be Ensign and Lieutenant, vice Lindow, who exchanges, July 19. 4th Foot—Captain William Augustus Fyers, from the 40th Foot, to be Captain, vice Arthur, who ea ch inges, July 19. 11th 'cot—Ensign Philip Doyne Vigors to be Lieute nant, by purchase, vice Pettison, who retires, July 19. 15th Foot—Staff Surgeon of the Second Class Thomas Rose Dyce to he Surgeon, vice Dobson, promoted on the Staff, July 19. 18th Foot—Captain Abraham Parkinson Kenyon, from the 50th Foot, to he Captain, vice John Bruce, who retires on half-pay of the 56th Foot, July 19. 21st Foot—Ensign Robert Harkness, from the 71st Foot, to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Robert Nicholson, cashiered by the sentence of a General Court IMartial, July 19. 37th Foot—Ensign Robert Mark Halyburton, from the 68th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Henry, appointed to the 86th Foot, July 19. 38th Foot—Captain Napier Turner Christie, from half-pay, Unattached, to he Captain, vice Thomas Southall, who exchanges; Lieutenant William James Lrif'Ns to be Captain, vice Christie, who retires; Ensign Charles William Watkins to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Loftus, July 19. 40th Foot—Captain Frederick Leopold Arthur, from the 4th Foot, to be Captain, vice Fyers, who exchanges; Ensign Frederick Samuel Blyth to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Cori:nick, promoted; William Hickes Horndon Measenger, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, ♦ice Blyth, July 19. 56th Foot—Lieutenant Allen M'Donald has been per mitted to retire from the Service by the sale of his com mission, July 19. 65th Foot—Lieutenant Christopher Rhatigan to be Captain, without purchase, vice Smith, deceased, Dec. 14, 1549. 71st Foot—Lieutenant Frederick J. Colin Halkett to be Captain, by purchase, vice Dashwood, who retires, July 19 ; Ensign Robert Charles William Stuart to have the rank of Lieutenant, July 18 ; Ensign John Fuller to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Halkett ; Ensign Duncan .Downie Fletcher, from the 42d Foot, to be Ensign, vice flarkness, promoted to the 21e, Foot, July 19. 721 Faot—Captain John William Gaisford to he Major, by purchase, vice Maclean, promoted in 3d West India. Rer;iment; Lieutenant Walter Barrington Odynell Campbell, to be Captain, by purchase, vice Gaistord; Limiters-ant Lydston Newman to be Captain, by purchase, vice Lord, who retires, July 19. 3d West India Regiment—Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Maxwell Maclean, from the 72d Foot, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, by purchase, vice Perry, who retires, July 19. HOSPITAL .STAFF.—Deputy Inspector- General of Hospitals Charles St. John, M.D., to be Inspector- General of Hospitals, vice Henry Franklin, who retires upon halt'-pay; Deputy Inspector-General, with local rank. Andrew Fergusson, rvf.D., to be Deputy Inspec tor-General of Hospitals, vice St. John; Surgeon Wil liam Dobson, from the 15th Foot, to be Staff Surgeon of the First Class, vice Fergusson; Surgeon Alexander Gibb, M.D., from the 45th Foot, to be Staff Surgeon of the' Second Class, vice Dyce, appointed to the 15th Foot, July 19. UNATTAcE7D.—Brevet Majcr Guy Clarke, from the "702 Foot, to be Major, without purchase, July 19. BREVET. To be Majors in the Army—Captain Napier Turner Christie. of the 38th Foot, Nov. 23, 1841; Captain Charles Eustace Mac Donnell, of the 29th Foot, March 2. To be Majors in the Army in the Eastlndies—Captain Herbert Benjamin Edwardes, of the Ist Bengal Euro pean Regigumt, March 22; Captain Henry James titan nus, .of the sth Regiment of Bengal Cavalry, April 17. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Flintihire. The Hon. Richard Thomas Rowley to be Deputy- Lieutenant, July 12. Cammissiou by the Lord-Lieutenant of Lancashire. John Abraharia Tinne, Esq., to be Deputy-Lieutenant, July 12. BANKRUPTS. Thomas Dyson, railway contractor, Newington, to surrender Aug. 2 and Sept. 6, at half-past one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee; Rixon and Son, King William. street. Gilbert Finlay Girdwood, chemist, Maids-hill, July 26, at twelve, and Aug. 29, at half-past twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Johnson. official assignee, Ba singhall-street; Lawrance and Plows, Old Jewry. George Shepheard, linendraper, Modbury,Devonshire, July 30 and Aug. 27, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court. Hirtzal, official assignee, Exeter; Savery, Mod bury; Bishop and Pitts, Exeter. Timothy Bourne Bourne, cotton broker, Liverpool, July 26 and Aug. 29, at eleven, at the Liverpool Dis trict Court. Bird, official assignee, Liverpool; Norris, Liverpool PRICE OF SUGAR. The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, com puted from returns made in the week ending July 16, 1850, exclusive of Custom Duties paid or payable thereon on the importation thereof into Great Britain:— From the British possessions in America 255. 9d. per cwt. From the Mauritius ... 245. Od. From the East Indies ... 28s. aid. Average price of the three foregoing de scriptions of sugar, jointly, computed as above, and exclusive of duty ... 265. 3d. By authority of Parliament. HENRY BICKN au., Clerk of the Grocers' Company. Grocers'-hall, July 19. BANK OF ENGLAND. (From last night's Gazette.) Aniccount, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria. cap. 32, for the Week ending on Saturday, the 13th day of July, 1850. 1881:7Z DEPLIUXENT. Notes i55ued........ 30,044,065 Government debt •• 11,015,100 Other securities •• •• 2,984,900 Gold coin and bullion 15,824,807 Silver bullion ••• • • • 219,258 430,044,065 £ 30,041,065 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. iO. oILIWILTNEN T. Dated the 18th day of July, 1811 Government securl- ties (including Dead Weight Annuity) .. 14,294,582 Other securities .... 10,522,279 Notes •.•• . • • • ...... 9,770,045 Gold and silver coin • • 800,242 £35,347,149 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. BANXING D. ProprietOrs 'capital • • 14,553,000 Rest .. • 3,149,011 Public deposits (in eluding' Exchequer, Commissioners of National Debt, Sav ings-banks, and Di vidcnd accounts) .. 5,090,507 Other deposits • •• .. 11,263,012 Seven day and other bills. •.• .... 1,331,619 £35.387,149 Dated the 18th day of July, lB5 , MARKET IN TEL LIGEN CE. (From the London New Price Current, July 19.) SUGAR.—To-day there has been less activity in the West India Sugar market, and in some instances easier prices were accepted; at public sale 208 hhds Trinidad were taken in at steady rates, low and mid yellow 35s to 365, but 363 hhds 10 tres 216 brls St. Lucia were disposed of, the best sorts at full terms, but inferior sorts rather lower ; fine yellow realisel 39s 6d to 425, mid to good 36s to 393, low 34s 6d to 355, two lots low dark 31s 6d to 335, and 3 pkgs Antigua at 34s for brown. The total sales to-day were 666, snaking for the week 3,564 hhds, &c. REFINED.—To-day Refined Sugar sold freely for home trade purposes, and fair to goad grocery Lumps realised 49s 61 to 525. Crushed in good demand, 13ritish at 27s 6,1 to 283. MAURITIUS.—This afternoon there was less disposi tion to operate in Mauritius, and at the public sales of 1,876 bags rather lower rates are acceded to. For good and fine yellow prices ruled at 36s 6d to 383 6d, mid .15s 6d to 365, and low 34s to 34s 6d, but the whole sold. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon the public sales of 2,842 bags Bengal Sugar went at full rates for white rind grainy, but at rather lower rates for soft yellow. Prices for white Benares ruled at 38s 6d to 41s for good and fine, at 36s 6d to 38s fur low to mid; mid and good strong yellow 423 to 445, good and fine soft 34s to 365, and inferior 32s to 33s 6d. Of Madras 2,000 bags sold at barely former terms, strong white at 445 6d, yellow like Mauritius good and find 363 to 383, and fair soft 33s 6d to 345. _ _ FOREIGN.—Thie afternoon a public sale of SSI hhds 291 brls Porto Rico went at rather lower rates, ord to mid yellow at :36s 6d to 383 6d, good 39s to 40s, and fine at 41s to 42s 6,1, MOLASSES.—This afternoon at public sale 186 pkgs Bengal Treacle were sold at the low rates of 103 and Ils per cwt. COFFEE.—This afternoon there was rather a desire to operate in Native Ceylon, and 43s was; paid for good ord. The public sales of 194 casks 337 bagel Plantation went with fair spirit at full terms, and in some cases rather dearer; mid realised 54s to 565, low mi d 51s to 535, One and fine ord 45a Gd to 50a, triage 43 a to 455, and pea berry 50s to 56s per cwt. Of Jamaiest, 20 casks in part sold at 46s 6d to 51s for fine and fine fine ord, at 43s for good ord, and at 33s to 33s for triage. COCOA.—Although foreign is offered at the moderate rates of 27s 6d to 283 6d, still operations keep upon a limited scale. West India has been in good demand; and at auction 206 bgs of Trinidad sold at full terms, red at 433 to 469, and grey at 40s to 423„ 90 bags of Domi nica 37s 6d to 393, and 6 brls St. Lucf.a at 37s per cwt. TEA.—The market is quiet for Hyso n at barely former prices, but in young Hyson sales i: ave been upon a large scale at rather higher terms. ..E. revious rates are well supported for other sorts of Gree:a ; the home trade demand has been good, and shippers he ve been buyers to a fair extent of inferior sorts. The inarket is firm for Scented and Pekoe Teas. There has been a good deal done in common Congou by home del ders, and further export orders have been concluded. Holders obtain 100 to 11d, whilst the supply is limite J. Sales to a fair extent have been made in medium an d good sorts at is to is 3d, but fine and Pekoe kinds aria yet only in mo derate request at is 4d to is 8d per lb.. SPICES.—With Pimento the market has been more freely supplied, and prices declined /d per lb. At auction 396 bags were all sold at 5,1 t a 6d for ordinary to mid, and one lot 60, the damaged realised 51d to 6cl per lb. Cinnamon continues to be operated in with caution. Black Pepper has been dealt in with caution, and there are sellers by private treaty at !either lower rates. At auction 165 bags fair bright Malabar sold at 33 to 30, the value of better sort is 311 to feicl, and Sumatra 2d to 3d. For auction 5,000 bags are declared. White is wanted at 51 to 8d fur low to fine. I n nutmegs, sales to a fair extent have been made privet sly at 2s 6d to 3s for brown, 3s 2d to 4s for bettor sort, and fair to good limed 2s 7d to 2s 9d. Jamaica Ginger realised last week's rates. At auction 11 casks sold at 5/ to 61 lls for good to fine. East India at 16s 60 to 18s for export sort, but the de mand does not improve. Mace at 21E1 to 2s 93 for first sort, and inferior 2s to 23 40. Of Cassia Lignea the supply at market remains small, and the rates paid are 85s to 90s fur low to fine. Cloves—Po:aang at is to is 63, and Bourbon bid to 7d per lb; of the latter 640 bags are declared for auction. Ition.—Ea,t India is not offered obeaper than last week, but there has been less activity in the market, and the supply is small. In Patna a good deal has been done, chiefly for exportation, and prices rule from 9s ed to 16a for low to tine. Caroline is operated in with caution, at 22s to 255; American cleitned is held for 203 to 21s, but there are not many buyers. In prices of Ar rowroot there is no variation, and none has been offered at auction. In Sago sales; are limited at 193 to 23s for small pearl, and 18s to 193 for Sago Flour. At public sale tc-day 250 bugs Bengal sold at 8s 6d for mid broken, being the full value. CCCHINEAL.—The supply has fallen off this week, and there is no variation in the value, still shippers or home dealers are not disposed to extend their operations. At sale 15 bgs Teneriffe were sold at 3s. 93. 6PIRIT3.—The market has been quiet for Leeward Island Rum; prices aro not lower. Only 200 puns sold at Is 41 to Is 41d proof. East India is not to be ob tained under is 3d; but few sales have been made. The business in Demerara is confined to 200 puns at Is II d to 2s 3d for 30 to 40 over proof. Jamaica met with little attention from shippers or home dealers; but former terms are sustained. The sales are 150 puns at 2s 6d to 3s for 30 to 36 over proof of low to good quality, better sorts 3s 2,1 to Al 80, and high flavoured 33 10d to 4s 4d. The market is quiet for Brandy, but rates are firm, Cognac, best Brands of the Vintage of 184 S at 4s 60 to 4s Bd, and 1849 at 4s 50 to 43 7d. Ten at public sale now.—This afternoon6 fit O on 0 e3 p 63 1: 2, g s a s 6n o dd f South A mer i can T a ll ow i n part so l d at 34s 6cl low to 33s to 34 a; 340 c k s o f S y d ney, low to to 0 35 1 3 1.8.- 6d, Tbe market remains in a favourable p os iti on under 33 s p er e fo w r t, L a in s se gu ed pp o ll i e l s . a T re he li r m e it a e r d e . sellersf F ew or delivery several con tracts have been entered into a t 32 s 6d c 33 c 27 o es a 9 fd N o. ru tßpale,ape met a O sa i d l p 3 r s ic s es te are 3ss firm 6d a f t or 36 b e ro 6 A d n. to with little attention, and sellers are willing to accept 28 a to 31s for Ceylon and Cochin. In Palm ope upon a limited scale , and the best will not r:11 1 11 1 r are than 295, as several parcels are near at hand. e more There has been a better demand for Olive , and prices are firmer, sales of Gallipoli and Span ish havinz, been made a t 421 to 43/, Bartary, Levant. and Portugal 401 lOs to 411. The market is firm for Seal, and a good demand exists for pale ut 311 to 32/ ; of brown, yellow, and straw, susply is still small, and 29/ 103 to 301 lOs is thAvaliv?. Cod is not cheaper, still sales have been limited by private treaty. At auction 20 tans sold at 341 105. Of Sea Elephant 80 tuns were disposed of at 321 to 33/ 5s for first and second sort, and 4 tuns Southern at 321 to 321 103 for mid. Sperm Oil is 203 lower, but Headrustter still realins stiff rates. At auction 134 tuns mostly sold at 831 to 84/ 5s for the former of good and fine quality, and at 901 to 9215 s for the latter. On Thursday the magistrates of Middlesex, to the number of nearly IGO, entertained the Marquis of Salisbury, the Lord-Lieutenant of the county, at dinner at the Sessions House, Clerkenwell. The chair was occupied by Henry Pownall, Esq. The banqueting hall was tastefully decorated for the occasion, and the dinner was served by Mr. Staples of the Albion. COCKCHAFERS.—lmmediately after a violent storm of rain, with thunder and lightning, on Monday morning last at Clifton and the neighbourhood, Durdham Down was visited by a tremendous swarm of cockchafers.—J 3 ath Chronicle. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 19. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat - on the Wool sack at Five o'clock. PETITIONS. The Earl of EGLINTON presented a petition against the Coal Mines Inspection Bill. The Duke of RICHMOND presented several petitions in favour of the Bill. The Earl of HARROWBY presented a petition pray ing for the restoration of the Post office delivery on Sunday. The Earl of EGLINTON presented a petition from Ayrshire against the authorising marriages with a de ceased wife's sister; also a petition in favour of cur • rency reform. Lord STANLEY presented a petition from certain landowners of Lancashire in favour of protection. The petition was very numerously signed, and he believed that the signatures were genuine. lie complained that in the manufacturing districts of Lancashire intimida tion had been used to prevent persons from signing this petition, and that exclusive dealing had been threatened against those who bad given expression to their opinions. I❑ one case a milkman had been obliged to declare he had not signed the petition, or all his customers would have left him. He did not charge this exclusively against Free-traders, but he was convinced that those who on any occasion resorted to intimidation, confessed by so doing that they were advocates of a losing cause.— (Hear, hear.) Also a petition from Bamford to the same effect. _ _ _ Lord BROUGHAM joined with his Noble Friend i❑ deprecating any attempt at intimidation, and as a friend of free-trade he should say, save me from my friends. He hoped the exaggeration wits considerable, but a worse service could not be rendered to a good cause than to have recourse to intimidation. Earl GREY, repudiating as he did all attempts at intimidation, yet when he found that a man de rived his living from the sale of milk, the greater number of whose customers must be among the working classes, it was proof that the working classes were convinced that so much fur their benefit had been the repeal of the corn-laws that they resented any attempt to recur to them as a personal injury. The Duke of RICHMOND denounced the conduct of the Government to the owners of land in not re-imposing import duties on corn. He presented a petition from the landowners of Wicklow, complaining that they were not permitted to grow beetroot or tobacco, and atm butiog all the misery and ruin of Ireland to the repeal of the corn-laws; also from a sergeant of the 64th iegi , meat, complaining of the reduction of his pension. He did not think the petitioner had a very strong claim. THE UNIVERSITY COMMISSION. Lord BROUGHAM denied that he had ever changed his opinion as to the legality of the Municipal Commis sion, as had been represented elsewhere, in the debate on the University Commission. He had given no opinion as to the legality of the University Commission, because it might come before him in a judicial capacity. PE TITIONS. The Duke of RICHMOND presented several peti tions from factory workers complaining of a breach of faith on the part of the Legislature with regard to the Ten Hours Act. The Earl of POWIS presented several petitions to the same effect. COAL MINES INSPECTION BILL. The Earl of CARLISLE moved the third reading of this Bill. Lord BROUGHAM objected to this measure alto gether. He had objected to Lord Ashley's Bill with re gard to factories, and he had entered his protest on the journals against any interference between employers and employed, and he considered this Bill was going a step further, and was an unjustifiable interference with the rights of property in laud, and in mines, and in minerals. The mere fact of authorizing an inquiry by inspectors was a serious interference with the rights of owners of mines. Those inspectors might be tinder tho influence of secret adversaries. Sir Samuel Romilly had objected to all Factory Bills for regulating the labour of children as an undue interference with the rights of parents; he dii nut go so far as that, but he contended that it was absurd to interfere by legislation to prevent a woman of fifty from accepting what employment she might think proper. This Bill even interfered with the manner in which the owners of coal mines were to keep their ac counts. This was a step in the wrong direc tion ; but this sort of legislative interfering. under the guise of humanity, between the employer and the employed, was so popular that he found his opposi tion would be of no avail. No men had such in terest in preventing accidents as the owners of mines themselves, not only for the purpose of avoid ing clamour, but because it was their pecu niary interest their interest as regarded pounds, shillings, and pence —to prevent accidents, for the works destroyed by these accidents cost them three or four thousand pounds, and could it be their intention to destroy this property? The greater portion of these ac cidents were owing to the carelesness of the miners themselves, who smoked in the mines, and neglected to use the Davy lamp, and no inspection in the world could guard against the carelessness of the working miners them selves. The Earl of C ARLISLE defended the provisions of the Bill. He feared that it would be fallacious to trust to the pecuniary interests of the owners of mines for providing for the safety of the miners. The Earl of LONSDALE opposed the measure. It had been introduced in accordance with the dictates of a factitious and got-up agitation, and was opposed to the wishes alike of mine proprietors and of working miners. The inspectors would be sure to find fault; all Govern ment inspectors of that nature always found fault, they got their living by finding fault, their bread depended on it, therefore they might rest assured that all Govern ment inspectors would find fault. The Bill wai then read a third time and passed, after the insertion of some additional clauses. THE LIVERPOOL PETITION. The Earl of EGLINTON moved that the parties ordered to attend be discharged, and that M'Arthur and others be ordered to attend at the bar on Monday next. The LORD CHANCELLOR, thinking that it may be necessary to prevent a failure of justice, to have other persons called to the bar, had suggested to the Noble Earl the propriety of postponing the motion until Mon day, in order to have persons called to prove the hand writing of the parties. Lord BROUGHAM said it would not be necessary to call witnesses to handwriting, because, if a party eon. fessed at the bar, the House proceeded on that confession. . _ The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that when there was evidence, that evidence might be read, and the party might be asked if he admitted it; but here the only evidence against the party was his own. The Esrl of EGLINTON understood the Noble and Learned Lord wished for further evidence. The LORD CHANCELLOR thought it would be as well to call evidence to the handwriting. Lord BROUGHAM said the parties had confessed before a Committee. They could not alter the whole course of their proceedings by calling witnesses to hand writing. Lord BEAUMONT could not uaderstind why they should not at once proceed as two of the parties were in attendance. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the report of the Committee was not so complete as to authorise the Home to proceed upon it without further evidence. (The Noble and Learned Lord here re.d the report.) That report did rot mention the name of a single Lord BROUGHAM considered that the report and the evidence were sufficiently explicit to authorise their Lordships to proceed without further evidence. He did not object to the postponement, as one of the parties was absent, and it was better they should all be present. The order was then discharged, and the parties were ordered to attend on Monday, at five o'clock. 'COUNTY COURTS EXTENSION BILL. On the motion cf Lord BEAUMONT, the report on this Bill v‘as received, and the third reading was fixed for Monday. The Vestries and Vestry Clerks Bill passed through Committee. FACTORIES BILL. Earl GRANVILLE moved the third reading of this Bill, and did not feel called upon to enter again into the arguments which had been £o often repeated in the former stages of the Bill._ _ The Luke of RICHMOND moved that it be read a third time that day six months. He was at a loss to comprehend the conduct of those Noble Lords who op posed him, and who, although they admitted that the operation of the existing Act, while it had been in force, had been productive of the greatest possible benefit, still were for altering it so as to lengthen the hours of lalsour. Under the Bill as it then stood the dinner hour of the operatives should be deferred, and the consequence of that. would be, he fcered, that they would be driven to the beer•Lhops for a stimulus. Their Lordships must know by experience that it was not very agreeable to have people's dinner hour put off, and he always perceived that a greater number of peers left the House at half-past seven o'clock than at any other time.—(A laugh). On a former occasion he had thought it his duty to oppose the proposal of his Noble Friend on the cross benches (the Earl of nar rowly) for extending the operation of the measure to children, because the adoption of that proposal would be equivalent to the introduction of an entirely new prin ciple, and would interfere with the relay system. But he wished to give notice that at the commencement of the next session he would move for a Committee to in quire how the relay system had worked. He wished to enter his protest against the Bill as it then stood, and he should for that purpose move that it be read a third time that day six months. Bat as many of those Noble Lords w h o agree d w i t h hi m upon t h a t p o i n t wer e th en absent fro m t h e H ouse, b e s h ou ld not p ress hi s mo ti on to a division, at e l s e r aisx majority month,ha jpd oorsitayi t httr might gilv that to which er they M jes t y ' s n had te r agr e ob tainedo on a former evening. U n d e r th es e circumstances Le begged leave to mov e th at the Bill b e roa d a t hi r d time that i haitdialsN the operativ e c l asses was not so decidedly measure as som e persons appeared to i Le believed th a t th e f ee li ng o f lieved that the operatives would havetie amendment of th e s l om a o g pi seriousnpeo.t e g d irio t e o u br t i the for complaint up on th e subject if s(the Earl of H arrow b y ) Noble Earl on the cross benche s were adopted. The Duke of RICHMOND said he believed that 99 out of every 100 operatives were opposel to the Bill as it then stood. Lord REDESDALE said it had been alleged that that Bill had been framed as a compromise; but he hadheard no answer given to the question which had been put the other evening—namely, as to who had been the parties to that compromise. He ehould certainly like to receive same information upon that point from her Majesty's Ministers. It certainly would appear from the petitions which had been presented to Parliament that a majority both of the manu lecturers and of the operatives were op posed t. the Bill as it then stood. Earl GRANVILLE said he had never stated that the Bill was a compromise. All he contended for was that it was the most practicable mode of settling a very difficult question. The Bill was then read a third time. The Earl of HARR° W.BY then moved an amend ment, the purport of which was teat female children should not be worked after six o'clock in the evening any more than females and young persons. He confessed that he felt most anxious t) provide against the possi bility of those chii,fren being detained' in factcries for hours after their female relatives and other young per sons should have left them. Ha did not wish to put an end to the relay system; and he thought that a most satisfactory arrangement might be come to upon that point by the employment of female children in the morn ings, and the employment of male children in the even ings. But he certainly thought it most desirable that femele children should be able to leave the mills in the company of their female relatives. The Noble Lord conciuded by moving the insertion of certain words for the purpose of carrying out the object of his amendment. The Earl of DARNLEY said he thought that if it were at all desirable to introduce a provision of that description, it should be brought forward in a separate Bill. He hoped, therefore, that their Lordships would not support the amendment. Earl GRANVILLE said he believed that if they were to introduce a provision of that description there would be considerable danger that the Bill could not be passed in the course of the present session. The Noble Earl had said that certain evils might arise from their allowing female Children to be employed in mills after the hour of six o'clock in the evening. But those evils were merely hypothetical, and there was no evidence to show that there was any serious danger of their occur rence. He believed that it was much better that they should confine the operation of the Bill to the specific ob ject for which it had been brought forward. Lord KINNAIRD said he believed that if they were to adopt the proposal of the Noble Earl, they would be removing the only subject of complaint upon which the agitation of that question could henceforth be continued in the manufacturing districts. In his opinion it would be much better that they should at once come to a com plete and satisfactory settlement upon the matter. The Bishop of MANCHESTER supported the amend ment. It was said that the present was not a favour able opportunity of pressing that proposal. But it was because he believed that that measure would for a long time continue as a settlement of the question that he wished to see Parliament pass it in the most satisfac tory shape. • The Noble Earl (Earl Granville) had said that the evils of leaving female children in factories after their female relatives should have left them were merely hypothetical. But he (the Bishop of Manchester) begged leave to differ altogether from that statement. As the Bill then stood, mills might be open from half pest five in the morning until half-past eight in the evening. Now, the result of that arrangement would be that female children would be compelled to return home, unaccompanied by their mothers or other female relatives, and would be left to the care of adult males, those adult males being any persons over the age of eighteen. He contended that such a sys tem might be productive of great evil; and he should further say that the comfort and happiness of mothers and of other members of families must to a great extent be destroyed by the knowledge that they had left behind them in the mills female children, who would have to return home at an advanced hour of the evening without their proLction. He implored their Lordships to adopt an amendment which, he believed, would greatly conduce to the happiness of families en gaged in factory labour.—(Hear.) Lord MONTEAGLE said, that although he had voted the other evening against the proposal of the Noble Earl upon that subject, he could not resist the. impres sive appeal which had just been made to them by the Right Rev. Prelate; and he should, therefore, vote for the amendment. He believed it to be wise and expedient that they should adopt the amendment, and by that means remove what might hereafter become a dangerous topic for agitation. Lord GRANVILLE having briefly explained, Their Lordships then divided. Tho numbers were— Contents ... ... 14 Non -contents Msj erity —l6 against Lord liarrowhy's motion. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. The Earl GRANVILLE then moved the second reading of the fellowing Bills, which were agreed to without discussiou :—lncorporatioa of Boroughs Confir mation (No. 2) Bill; Militia Ballot Suspension Bill; Po pulation Bill; Population (Ireland) Bill; Lean Societies Bi;I; Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Bill; Linen, &c., Manu factures (Ireland) Bill. Several other Bills on their Lordship? table were ad vanced a stage. Lord MONTEAGLE gave notice that on Thursday next he should move an address for the issuing of a Commission to inquire into the state of the law between landlord and tenant in England and Ireland. Their Lordships then adjourned at Twenty-five mi nutes to Eight o'clock. ROUSE OF COMMONS, July 19. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) MERCANTILE MARINE (No. 2) BILL. The louse then resolved itself into Committee on the Mercantile Marine (No. 2) Bill, Mr. BERNAL in the chai r. Clause 70 was agreed to after a short discussion. Clause 71 was struck out on the motion of Mr. LA BOLTCHERE. On clause 72, At the suggestion of Mr. HENLEY, Mr. LABOLTCIIERE agreed to the reconsideration of this cause. and it was accordingly postponed. Clause 73 was also postponed, on the motion of Mr. BAINES. Clause 74, which provides that a sailor shall not be entitled to wages during any neglect of duty, was agreed to after a short conversation. Clause 75, providing for courts to be held in foreign ports on masters or men accused of misconduct in mer chant ships, gave rise to considerable discussion, but was ultimately postponed. On clause 76, Mr. HENLEY objected to the terms of the clause. Mr. BAINES thought the clause might be dispensed with altogether. The cisme was accordingly struck out. Clause 77 was ag reed to with amendments, as were also clauses 78, 79, 80 and 81. Some discussion arose upon clause 82 as to the meaning of the word coasting trade, but it was cut short by Mr. LABOUCHEIIE stating that it would be explained in the interpretation clause, and the clause was agreed to. Clause 83 was struck out. Clauses 84, 85, S 6, b 7, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, and 93 were agreed to with some slight ierbal amendments. — On clause 94, Mr. HENLEY observed that this Bill would autho rise the Board of Trade to deal with large sums of money the property of private individuals. Now, he bad no confidence in the Board of Trade; as a body it might disappear to-morrow; . and he wanted to know if this . money would be deposited , with some party or parties, give security 13r its safe custody? whB7Irs.hLouAIdBOUCHER,E said some arrangement might be made with the Treasury for the s a f e custo d y o f t h e meney, but he would take time to con s id er the po i nt. Mr. CARDWELL remarked that under this Bill the shipping master would pay the sailors, and his receipt f aggregate ewags to be paid to th e crow o f a s hi p would o t discharge to th e owner. Now what security bt?4gufilen did the Bill give the sailor aga i nst fraud or de for tale b e falcations on the part of the agent? Mr. LABOUCHERE said securities would be taken from the agent, but he would consider the matter before the report was brought up. The clause was then agreed to, as was also clause 93. On clause 96, Mr. CARDWELL said this cla use f orced the master of a ship to give his crew characters at the end of a voyage. Would not this provisi on l ead to considerable difficulties and much litigation in C 1 S2B whore the character given was bad? Mr. LABOUCIIERE did not laink any such diffi culties would arise, and as he attached m uc h i mportance ito this clause, believing that t . woull have the effect o f improving the reputation of the inercantile navy, he must press it. Mr: FOX MAULE reminded t!3e House what was the practice with respect to soldiers who have left the army. In the printed certicate of ts soldier's discharge, a blank was lett to be filled np with a description of his character on leaving the army. If the soldier had a good character that blank was filled up with the word " gocd ;" but if his charac ter was bad the blank was filled tap, of course, with the word " bad," and in the latter case all that the soldier had to do was to tear the °I./noxious word from the certificate.—(Laughter.) Mr. HENLEY thought that the clause as it stood was so objectionable that It was deserving of reconsideration, and he moved that it should be postponed. Mr. CARDWELL objected to :the clause on the ground that it tended to delegate penal powers to the Iloard of Trade, to which he was strongly opposed. Mr. LABOUCEIERE eventually consented that the clause should be postponed. On the 97th clause, which empowers the shipping master to call for the production of evidence, such as the log-book, &c., in the cases of dispt:ted claims, being read. Mr. WAWN proposed the omis3lon of the clause altogether. The gallery was cloarcd for a division, but none took place, Mr. Wawn having withdrawn lo:is amendment, and the clause was ordered to stand part cp:f . the Bill. The 93th clause, as slightly amendad,,was agreed to. Clause 99 was struck out. It being ❑ow three o'clock, Tile CHAIRMAN, 011 the motion of Mr. WAWN, re ported progress and asked leave to agai❑ on Monday next. Tho House resumtd, and then immediately afterwards adjourned until Five: o'clock. The House resumed at Five o'clock.. PETITIONS. Mr. HENRY presented d petition, complaining of the operation of the 9th clause of the riendly Societies Act. Lord HARRY VANE presented a 'petition from Dar lington, against certain provisions of the Savings Bank Bill. supplied to t t h h e e e in v e o t . r_ep ( (i c li h s e , Mr. LACY p resented a petition from Mr. R oss, a surgeon, compl a i n i ng cf the adulteration of the m ilk e r a i n a d n d P l ° ag i u nt : and Scarborough against thedmi vision of Jews into e Parliamnt.Ong out Mr. HAMILTO N presented petiti c ns from Preston a a mode of Mr. BRIGHT presented a . • petitiona froth f a place in Gloucestershire against church-rates. Mr. C. PEARSON presented a 'petition from the vestry c 4 Lambeth, complainiarr that 1 he petitioners were grievously and unjutly treate d by 1 aro Commissioners of Sewers, in that they had been assessed to the extent of 25,000/. during the last y(-ar in the matter of tie wer a ge, of which a very small sum hA been expended, and that there yet remained 18,000 feet oc open sewers in Lambeth, which required to be closed. The lion. Member said it was his intention to move that the petition be printed. and that he would call the attention of the mewbere of that Government to it on Monday next. Mr. B. OSBORNE preil-ited a petition from M. Wm. Yates, of Cornliiii, and Mr. Robert Ford, of Batters.m, praying that the House would promote steam communi cation between this country and our colonial posseisions. THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL AND THE PATEN 1' LAW. Mc. MILNER GIBSON asked the Noble Lord, the First Lord of the Treasury, whether, on the appoint ment of tl,e new Attorney-Genera!, there had been any new understanding that the emoluments of that office, arising out of the procuration of patents, would not be considered as standing in the way of the reform of the patent law, which was highly desirable? He did not presume to say that the Attorney-General had any vested interest in those fees; but ho thought such a change could not be introduced withont some such un derstanding with that Gentleman. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said his ion. and Learned Friend the Attorney-General would be perfectly willing to a=sent to a relinquishment of his fees, arising from that source.—(Loud cheers.) WILLIAIII'S-TOWN IRELAND. _ _ , Lord DUNCAN complained that a report, whit`► be moved for three months ago, respecting the improve ment of William's-town, in Ireland, had never been pro duccd and laid on the table. k Lord SEYMOUR, said he had frequently written to Ireland for the report, but had never been able to get it. PARLIAMENTARY OATHS BILL. Mr. ANSTEY asked the First Lord of the Treasury whether the Government would consent to the present session being prolonged until the Parliamentary Oaths Bill had received the decision of Parliament?—(Oh, oh, and laughter.) Lord J. RUSSELL believed the only answer he could give was to repeat what he stated last night, namely that he should declare on Monday the course he in• tended to pursue with respect to that Bill.—(Laughter.) LIGHTHOUSE ON THE GALI TA ISLAND. Mr. HUME asked the First Lord of the Admi ralty whether, after the dreadful loss of the Avenger, any steps had been taken to erect a lighthouse on Galita Island or the Agluglia Rocks; or, what would be a still more important boon to the navigation of the Me diterrannean (and especially to vessels bound to Malta), on the Sherki Rocks, on which another lamentable wreck took place, the Athenian, 64, in the year 1806. All the surrounding nations would probably join in such ' a noble enterprise, difficult perhaps, but by no means impracticable. Sir F. BARING said the Admiralty could not erect a lighthouse on a foreign territory without the consent of the Sovereign to which it belonged. He was not aware that any correspondence had pvised through the Foreign-office with respect to the erection of a light house on the island in question. COUNTY RATES BILL. Mr. J. WILLIAMS wished to ask the Hon. Member fir Manchester whether it was his intention to proceed with the County Rates Bill this session. Mr. M. GIBSON said it was very obvious what his intentions were with respect to the Bill at this late period of the session; but he wished to state, as his Hon. Friend had put a question, that he had undertaken the charge of the measure at the request of several persons in different parts of the country. The principle of the Bill was sanctioned by the House, and the second reading agreed to without a division, but the House had thought proper to hand him and the Bill over to a hostile Committee, whose real intention was not to amend but to destroy it. His campaign had therefore been unsuccessful, but he hoped, after the strong expression of the country on the subject, that the Government would introduce a similar measure next session, because it was quite impossible for any in • dividual Member to do so with any chance of success. Sir J. PAKINGTON said there was no foundation for the statement of the Hon. Member that the Com mittee was hostile to the Bill; and reminded him that it was a Committee entirely of his own selection, and one to which he (Sir J. Peleington) entertained serious oljections.—(Hear, hear.) Sir GEORGE GREY observed that all he could say in reply to the Hon. Member (Mr. M. Gibson), was that the Committee took a good deal of evidence in re ference to the Bill. That evidence, as well as the pra.:tical suggestions of the Committee, he would take into his consideration during the recess, but he was not prepared to say that the Government would bring in a Bill founded on them next session. CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL. In reply to Mr. GOULBURN, Sir G. GREY said he hoped the House would assent to the third reading of the Charitable Trusts Bill this evening. Mr. - MILNER GIBSON said that he proposed to ask the House to read the Manchester Bonding Bill a third time on Wednesday, but he could assure the Hun. Gen tleman that the Bill was not the same Bill as when it was originally introdoced.___ RICHMOND PARR. In answer to a question from Lord DUNCAN, Lord SEYMOUR said that the lust communication which he had received from the late Duke of Cambridge was to desire that the orders and regulations of the Park might be modified, so as not to interfre with the public convenience. —(Cheers.) LANDLORD AND TENANTS (IRELAND) BILL. In answer to Mr. BRIGHT, Lord J. RUSSELL said that he proposed to take some day in the next week but one for the second read ing. of this Bill. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.—POST OF FICE INQUIRY. On the motion that the louse, at its rising, aijourn until Monday next, Mr. FORSTER asked whether the inquiries respect ing the Post- office, had commenced, by whom it was conducted, and how long it would last, and also whether Government would take any steps before the report was presented. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that it had already commenced, and that it was conducted by Lord Clan ricarde, Mr. Labouchere, and Mr. Grey. He did not ap prehend that it would take much time, and he did not think it advisable to take any steps until their report was presented. - Mr. HUME was proceeding to put some questions re lative to the grant to the family of the late Duke of Cambridge, when The SPEAKER, informed the Hon. Gentleman that he was speaking to an order of the day which was not yet read. The motion for adjournment was then carried. QUEEN'S MESSAGE—GRANT TO THE FA MILY OF THE LATE DUKE OF CAM BRIDGE. On the motion that the House go into Committee on the Queen's Message, Mr. HUME wished to know what was intended to he done when they got into Committee. He wished the Noble Lord to state to the House gene rally what his views end intentions wore, and the con ditions upon which he proposed to make the grant. The House was probably not aware that many years ago an senility of 27,0001. per annum was voted to the late Duke, which he continued to receive up to the time of his death. The allowances to the Royal Family, too, had been greatly increased by the changes in the currency, and on that and other grounds they ought to consider upon what principle the grant should be made. The King of Hanover had most unwarrantably, he thought, continued to receive his allowance of 21,0001. as the Duke of Cumberland, and he had twice asked the House of Commons to recon sider that allowance, but the House, on both occasions, refused to entertain the subject. Besides that allow ance, 250,0001. a year was paid to Hanover as a subsidy, but, according to his idea of the matter, the payment ought to have ceased tho moment Hanover obtained an independent Sove reign. Now these were circumstances which ought to ba looked to before they made any additional grants, nod he had therefore prepared an amendment accordingly, but he was anxious not to move it if it could possibly be avoided. The House then went into Committee. Lord J. RUSSELL then rose, and said he should confine the observations ho had to make to the subject of her Majesty's most gracious message. The question of whether the annuity paid to the present Duke of Cumberland was rightly paid or not nailer the authority of the Act of Parliament, constituted a totally separate matter, and the Committee had now only to deal with the case of the present Duke of Cambridge and his sister, the Princess Mary. Now, the late Duke of Cambridge, by an Act passed in 1778, was entitled to part of an amount of 60,0001., which was allowed to George 111., for the purpose of granting annuities to his younger sons. One of the provisions of that Act was, that none of the younger sons should at any time be allowed more than 15,000/. per annum, while the annuity which. fell vacant by the death of one son was to pass to the survivor. Under this Act 6,000/. was added to the annuity of the Duke of Cambridge, and. afterwards a further annuity of 6,0001. a year was granted to hies. The whole sum paid to the late Duke of Cambridge as an annuity was 27,000/., but. by a subsequent A c t, passed three years ago, ;an annuity of 3,000/. was settled upon the Princess Augusta, which was to come into opera tion at the death o f the Princess Sophia.. The next mater for the consideration of the House was the case of Prince George of Cambridge. The Honour able Gentleman the Member for Montrose was in. error iu supposing that there was a settlement made by Parliament of 6,0001. a year on the present Duke of Cambridge. The further question arose, whether prince , George of Cambridge inherited from his father any considerable amount of property. It had inquire. into his (Lord John Russell's) duty t o into this subject, because there were rumours that a. very large amount of property, which was in possession of the late Duke of Cambridge , had been left to his children. Those rumours, he found, had been very considerably exaggerated. The sum which the late Duke had left to his children was divided into three equal portions, between the present Du ke of Cambridge and the two daughters of the late Duke, the Princess Meek lenburg-Strelite and Princess Mary; and Prince Geor ge of Cambridge was charged with the payment s. of annuitie s to the amount of 1 , 6001 . a yearduring the lives of the persons to whom those annuities were left by the late Duke of Cambridge, which would absorb the whole of the third part of the money which had been left to him. All that remained to the present Duke of Cambridge was the sum of 1,200/. a year, which he , would receive in the shape of rent from the estate at Coombe-wood. The House was well. aware that while it was true that the late , Duke of Cambridge did not exceed his income, and that. when he was Viceroy of Hanover he made some saving. out of his income, it was likewis e t rue t h at those savings. were not to any considerable amount, and that the amount; which the late Duke of Cambridge bes'owed in chitrity was always so munificent as to prevent his amassing I any considerable fortune. The beat statement he (Lord J. Russell) could make of the situation of the present Duke of Cambridge was, that, be ides the income he d..rived from the army, he had no other income exslept the 1,200/. a yr..ar derivcd from the small property of tl,m late i)ako of Cambridge. lle had income which he thrived from his professional nerviccs in the army; but with m spect to the income der:ved from that source Peine. George of Cambridge had always done his duty as a soldkr— (Cheers) —and (gist income was as fairly his right as the income of any oflieer in the army. — (Cheers.) He (Lord John Russell) therefore catne to the conclusion that, in answer to her Majesty's message, the House ought to make some provision for the present Duke of Cambridge.—(Hear, hear.) Now, the question arose as to what that provision should be ; and the precedent to which the Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) has adverted is naturally the precedent which occurs—viz., the precedent of the Parliamentary an• nuity granted to the Duke of Gloucester. The Duke of Gloucester, the brother of George 111., received an in come of 24,0001. a year. By an Act passed in the year 1778 King George 111. was enabled to grant to the son of the Duke of Gloucester (the late Duke) an annuity not exceeding 8,0004 a year. In the year 1806 that sum was augmented by 6,0001. a year, making an income of 14,0001. a year which the late Duke of Gloucester en joyed to the day of his death. The provision made for the Duchess of Gloucester by former Acts of Parliament forms a separate consideration. Before her marriage with the Duke she had an annuity of 14,0001. a year. Considering, then, this precedent, and taking into consideration the position in which the Duke of Cambridge stands, we have to dater mine the sum which it would be right for the Minister of the Crown to propose to her Majesty to ask Parlia ment to grant to the present Duke. Now, in consider ing this proposition, it ought to be taken into account that when the late Duke of Gloucester was granted that annuity there were at the same time living several sons of George lll.—no less than six sons of George 111., enjoying very considerable incomes. The Noble Lord then continued—l say this because it is well known to the country and to the House that a person in the posi tion of a Royal Duke has many claims upon him for acts of benevolence and charity, and that while the Dukes of York, Clarence, Kent, Sussex, and Cumberland lived, there were not likely to bo so many claims upon the Duke of Gloucester as there would be upon a prince nearly connected with the Throne, and who is, at the same time, the only prince of the Royal Family who is living at the time, and who is not the son of the reigning Sovereign. That is the position of the present Duke of Cambridge. Ho is the only prince of the Royal family, except the young princes, the sons of the Queen, who are infants according to law, and who, cf course, are not applied to on subjects of this nature ; he is the only prince of the Royal Family residing in England at the present moment. The House will, lam sure, consider that this must. make a difference with respect to the claims that will be made upon him—that he cannot well say, " I will use the income Parliament gives me entirely as if it were given for my private advantage, and I will be entirely deaf to all those claims of charity to which my father was so munificent a contributor." I do not think that that is a sentiment characteristic of the present Duke, and I therefore come to the conclu sion that, considering these things and the position in which he is placed, an annuity of 12,000/. a year—being 2,oooi.iless than that which was granted to the Duke of Gloucester by the Act of 180 G, would be a proper sum for this House to vote for the present Duke of Cambridge. —(Hear, hear.) I think it would be a sum which would enable him to maintain his present rank, and that it is not at all beyond that which wo ought to give him to sustain the dignity of his situation and to answer those claims which are likely to be made upon him. There then remains the case of the Princess Mary. The HOMO will remember that by a provision made a few years ago the sum of 3,000 a year was granted to the Princess Au gusta from the death of the late Duke of Cambridge. I propose that the same sum should be granted to the Princess Mary; that sum would be of course secured by Act of Parliament, and upon her marriage or her attaining the age of 21 would be absolutely hers for life. The result of this arrangement would be that 6,0001, the jointure of the Duchess of Cambridge, 3,000/. a year payable to the Duchess of Moeklenburgh, and 3,000/. a.year to be payable to the Princess Mary, snaking 12,0001. a year, and 12,000/. a year proposed to be granted to the present Duke of Cambridge, would make altogether 24,0001. The sum that was payable to the late Duke of Cambridge was 27,0001. a year, and the sum, therefore, that I propose now will be 3,0001. a year less than that amount. It is unnecessary to enter into any further details with respect to this subject. Whatever any Hee. Member has to say upon it does not appear to me to be at all connected either with the annuity payable to the King of Hanover, or to any sala ries granted for civil services. These are sums granted to members of the Royal family to enable Prince George, ❑ow the Duke of Cambridge, who has deserved the con sideration of the House, to keep up the dignity of his rank, and I therefore cannot regard them as in any way having reference to other grants. The Noble Lord then moved the resolution, which he handed to the Chair man. It was to the effect that the Committee was of opinion that her Majesty should be enabled to grant a sum of money out of the Consolidated Fund, not ex ceeding 12,00C1., to make suitable provision for his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge. On the question being put, Mr. HU ME said he was exceedingly sorry to differ from the Noble Lord on a question of this nature, be cause no man could be more ready than himself to give credit to the late Duke of Cambridge for the prudent and economical management of his affairs, or to testify to the affability and kind-heartedness which had ever distin guished that Royal Duke. The Noble Lord, however, had not stated the whole of the facts with re (Yard to George HI. George 111. was allowed 60,0001. to divide amongst ten sons. That was 6,0001. a year to each, and it was pro vided that on the death of one his annuity was to be di vided amongst the survivors, with the stipulation, how ever, that none should receive more than 16,0004, for without some such stipulation the last survivor would have received 60,0001. a year. He found that 8,0001. a year was all that was granted for many years to the late Duke of Gloucester. The Noble Lord had omitted to state that 6,000/ a year was granted to the Duke of Cambridge for his son, at the same time thai a similar amount was granted to the Duke of Cumberlo,ud for his son; so that in fact the present Duke had for many years been receiving 6,0001. a year from the country, although indeed it was paid to the father, who received 27,0001: a year instead of 21,000/., which was the allowance of the other brothers. Why should not the Committee adopt in the present case the precedent of the Duke of Gloucester, and vote an annuity of 8,000/.? In 1806 the state of the cur rency led to an increase of all official salaries, and to that of the Royal Duke also. All that had now gone by, and we had now returned to the sober times of bul lion payments. At the same time wo were in a state of perfect peace, ansi now, if ever, was the period for making retrenchment. He spoke as a trustee of the public funds, and he said that he did not wish to see so large a sum taken from the Consolidated Fund when there was so much want and distress around. Ho thought it would be desirable that there should be au inquiry into the arrangement of the civil list for life on the accession of a new monarch, and whether an and should not be put to the allowance of the King of Hanover, who had for many years been receiving a large sum from this country. He was glad to hear that his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge had followed his profession of a soldier, and that he was below(' by tt e army. If his (Mr Hume's) proposition were acceded to, he would have an annuity of 8,000/. a year; he would also have whatever allowance might arise from his military command; and be would have the oce-third of what his father had left; and that he thought, in the present state of the country, would be ample and sufficient. He begged to move, as , an amendment, that 8,0001. a year should be substituted for 12,000/., and ho should t Ike the sense of the Com- mitten upon it. Mr. DISRAELI agreed with the Noble Lord, that the proposition ought to be considered on its own merits, and should not be mixed up with the arrangements pre viously wade to the King of Hanover. The Noble Lord was also right in stating, when the House was called upon to consider a message from the Crown on subjects of this character, that there were two considerations laid before them; first, whether any provision should be made for the illustrious person to whom the message re ferred, and if that were answered in the affirmative, then what should be the amount to be considered as a compe tent provision. There were not, certainly, two opinions uponithe point that the illustrious individual for whom they were now called upon to make provision, was one for whom Parliament w,is unanimously of opinion that some provision ought to be made. The Committee should con sider the conditions under which an appeal was made for an English Prince of the Blood to an English Par liament. The Prince was in a position which permitted of his favourably impressing his claims on the consi deration of Parliament. It was, for instance, the con institutional jealousy of Parliament which had virtually deprived the Sovereigns of these realms of the power of making charges upon their estates in favour of princes of the blood. Therefore, when a prince of the blood came before them under the circumstances of the illus trious Duke, they must always remember that that was a consequence in great part of the conduct of the House of Commons. There was another consideration which ought not to be omitted when the House of Commons dealt with a question of this nature—namely, that that House was a party to the passing of the Act which pre vented any prince of tho blood from assisting or in creasing his fortune in any of the Ways which were open to other subjects, and when also they considered how much the House of Commons bad been concerned first, in the settlement of the civil list, and next in the Royal Marriage Act, they would, he was sure, remember that in reference to every prince of the blood there were peculiar causes which permitted his claims to be urged with great effect. But with regard to the illustrious prince, there were other considerations. The marriage of the late lamented Duke of Cambridge was ono that was very much destbd by the country; for on the occurrence of a most lament able catastrophe it was desired that the sons of George 111. should lose no time in forming those alliances which should ensure the permanence of the Royal family with which the people of this country as sociated their best interests, nor was it i possible they should be insensible to tho claims and character of the illustrious individual himself. He only expressed what everybody felt, thst the conduct of the present Duke of Cambridge had endeared; him to the best feelings of the country—(Hear, hear) —he had shown himself pos sessed of many qualities which were popular and highly esteemed in this country, and he had led a life both spirited and decorous. With regard to the first propo sition of the Noble Lord, whether the provision was one that ought to be made, there cculd be no want of unani mity en the part of the House. To the second question— the amount of that provision—the Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) had addressed himself, It , was certainly impos _ tible to ebut their eyes to great distress which existed in this country, and though he was rather surprised th at the complaint of distress should come from hat esh elleizterial side of the House, still, er were h)ts feeling; under other e . "'"" 0 . stances, he could net consider the Prese n t ! Y e r e ir position without some reference to the state ." was constituents. The proposition of the Noble Lord wt' a tainded upon the case of the Duke cf Gloucesteer,,cet'e'd, upon the weole a more just one could not be s -1 ' ro t But, above tilt, her Majesty's Minister s bad with g oa t t scretion, pru ilenes, and wisdm poposd an atn e . he much reduced from that whicho r had been g iven 1 0 _t _ t Duke of Gloucester. He (elr. Disraeli) the reduction had been in consequence of the si te other circumstances of the country; he could see no - dae . reason for it, and he thought therefore that that i re cum , tion ought to have been made. Under al l th e &tool ettieces of the case, then, taking every point into tree . deration, and considering the state ef the country; 41,, understoq Teid cially those classes with whom they wore parti 11 _7 00 ; connected in that House, it was a fair and by na °j este d, immoderate proposition.—(Hear, hear.) Ito ! 0 0, then, that although the Hon. Member (Meer d ea faithful to his traditionary office, had sugg s t est amendment, he would not eel it his duty to Pre s e w ee amendment to a division, but would rather sgr e si dea the House that under all circumstances the ProP ° wo of the Government et as a just, fair, aad moderate r position. d at the Mr. BRIGHT said he was rather disappointeSe un. statement of the Noble Lord in one particular, ef derstood the Noble Lord to say that the lat e en i n :, lee Cambridge had divided his property equally ;' cis children; but that he had attached to the share oft bste son certain annuities which entirely eat away Li e l a te —equal to 1.600/. a year. The daughter of tu s s oot Duke of Cambridge, on her marriage some ears bad an allowance from Parliament of 3,000 k Yl3.see') life.—(Several voices, " From the deat h of bar lilit'striees It was unfortunate that the property lef s b y the father was left in such a manner that the whole 0 to be now handed over to country.rties leaving bis son. oti provided for by the He (Mr. Brigkt c ? e oet not say one word against the late Duke of Catnb ri Lord looking to the statements of the Noble Lord, it aPareerf that since 1778 he had been in the receipt :f 7,to s o l oca too) 3 l .o i ing, from his share in 60,0001. a year , 21,0001., and latterly, for many years, was not aware of his receipts as the Vi e o e Out Hanover; but Parliament was bound net t t g ee out altogether from its consideration tba t 1 1 , 1 owe a duty to their family in "they 5111 as well as in the other degrees, and that airbe of bound to act by them so as not to throw the he- ibis to maintenance upon the public when it was Pas s she eldt avoid it. That the late Duke of Cambrideon ont therefore, have made some provision for his child _ eo od of the large income he derived from the countryt; tees have been but fair, and not to have cast tbeeltd ve t manner upon the public. The past, bowaver. ee l b t ) tees, be remedied, but the future could. He (gr. n r : g polte s '; not opposed to some provision for the presens otfie jent Cambridge in case his private property was in ' j t he ca se for his station; bat the advantages predicated in et e e otis might be purchased at too dear a rate, and all the_' i de e int of the monarchy should, in his opinime so a rrang_ e ye of of this nature as not to let them come under ttie.:l;tene the public in an unpleasant manner for tha ig y p er ,4o He looked at thefact in this light. The present eo 1 0 0 g of this country had a numerous family , and fortin d; le time provision would, no doubt, have to [n e e W s ; tee oft o children of the Queen. Would the Prime Ivlinis"-eeera day propose, or the Parliament grant, 12,000 k i_kether each of them? He (Mr. Bright) doubted p v' t i lte of even_ a Prime Minister would proposo it. Tb e he Quee th C an a d mbridge, however, was only first cousin to t. g would Parliament be justified in gr aet e in t r sum greater than that which would be here a- 700 0 "; to her Majesty's own off,pring? If, therefliteren a year each was considered too much fort h e her g a.. the reigning jesty's offspringS o Sovereign, egi miive t t h. a w t ou s l o d m h e t 0 11 : 0; e s : t c ; e _ e s n in tai t: t il tia : Queen. He (Mr. Bright) iglatbe taunted withtoy; 19 0 ug certain opinions on the subject of the W i r e frien d i t e t he was quite satisfied that the Minister was n e e " o rop es the monarchical Institutions of the country a vote on such a subject to the House that 01 0 00; commend itself al consideration at once by it s , t tion and by its econo m y. The impression 0 , 5 0 goes ° be made on the country by the vote before t'bisatil was an unfavourabl e one in respect to tn e ,„ ° ' g roan s aga the monarchic a l system on tu ° n ot en t e o expense. Though the question w as soden; so much cf precedent as of principle, still r Glovese, were important. The vote to the Duke of 6 OP' at first was only 5000/., which was increased hY,O',/etele ' —it was said for party purposes—by the Virbig tbe to went of the day. If that was the case,: then Lord should have been the last man in that !l ode er eo: bring such a precedent forward; and of all otbsr;eigb7 dents that was the last which should have a n i r 5,0 0 " with Parliament. In his (Mr. Bright's) oPin i°° ' ° 1) 01 ‘ e a year was an income sufficiently ample for tilo of Cambridge, and more ought not to be grand on that. House. Locking to these circumstances, a n , l et to sidering that the late Duke of Cambridge had arv r make some provision for his family out of thej-eneing years' income he received from the state; and ) , e ,here" that to grant 12,000/. a year would be to preju o,c ' to after the children of her Majesty when they came , provided Th for, he s!nould support the sunendment. ; that e Marquis of GRANI3Y said every Mall t ee house- was anxious, he was sure, to do honour 1° or late Duke of Cs ,mbridge—(Hear)—and the ,nose the; vious and natunil mode, therefore, of testifying se a respect was to grant such an allowance to his Ba n , t ea successor as would suffice to maintain, unimpaireat 4 dignity and con ty of his high station. The elon:0 would, morever, :he was assured, be only too desirous encourage in the present illustrious prince the numeet'i the virtues of his illustrious father, and to encourage r, to transmit that e awe and the memory of those virt unimpaired, to the latest posterity. With respect te;es addition to the income of the Duke of Gloucester, o_loo made not for par ty purposes, but because the pre' income was insufficient. or o tos° Sir. R. INGLIiS said the Hon. Member for eti .° , o for had alluded to the bargain made with the erg; the life of her Majesty as a bad bargain '; oon' country ; but he (Sir R. Inglis), on the contrar•it sidered it to be a bad bargain for the Crown. t W O; peered from returns on the table of the Hous e t "e n wea the beginning of the reign of George 111. to th: ) ,;Thol s : that of William IV. the sums receivable b)' t " - hat o a m ye th ar e a P l u on st o - ) o , ffi a c o e d , foorthtehre sources, dst:tiwe:s(to-.0- 03 :1: 6 1 reign from than 116,000,00 W, while the sum granted urce by I) , s a ri v lii ing • in that period amounted only to 69 000 000/. le a° tri' balance of 47,000,000/, clear in favour of the e l e l" ttb s If that sum were in the hands of the Soverelg' p ro would have no need to apply to Parliament f ar P vision for her chAdren. Vie w Colonel RAWDON rose amidst loud cries of " ora te and so much confusion that he could not b e 11° .e n brik ° _heard. He had known the late Duke of Ca e t'r e fen,u,' from his earliest years—in Hanover an d in P"d le" and he bore the fullest testimony to his unbound°, 0 0 ' berality and Me great charity. He should, th e.° a support the motion of tho Noble Lord. for Colonel OEM TTERTON, amidst loud erhsieed a' division and still louder confusion, was and say that the present Duke of Cambridge P° ss o - e te a l thorough knowledge of the military service; a t - l ibel ( the income Rropo:ed by the Noble Lord was of ° enough. He suggested the same sum as t he - Gloucester—viz., 14,000/. a year. r ed The Committee then divided, when the apPe s For the amendment ... ••• 9 ' o - 6 Against it ' Majority •.• fe The emendment was therefore lost. Mr. HUME then moved that the sum pti - e 10,600/. a year.—(Cries of "Oh, oh;") Th is w a -s of 1° twice the amount of the salary of the First Lone 0 1 t ti f Treasury, who had the whole business of the ° n ee ° oe ° attend to.—(lltaar, hear.) For the e- to' George 111. did not receive so much, yearsrbe i1°13.413:°14 net (Sir R. Inglis) had alleged that . the Crow° ;t3 dt it have been better with the Woods I Forests at posal than with the present arran gementtiu of t ierore s ; list, He (Mr. Hume) begged to refer the ge n ' t f to the debtor and cr e dit or s id e of the accen n n ot 1-8 4 Woods and Forests, as contained is the rep o i r : Committee, of which the Noble Member for 13st - -- Duncan) was chairman—(hear, hear)—and frnlP co utl' it appeared that for the last twenty-five airs s o u r ee< try had derived little or nothing from that he o 6 :l (Hear, hear.) He was not so hardhearted as t h " - Teor Baronet. He was not at all disposed to place t'ele Family on so precarious a fund.—(Lau hter.) e Sir H. 'WILLOUGHBY said thehthatgberlhoarpesi eettolr, Lord replied to the Hon. Me state to the Committee whether, in perhaps oftt e se eaf ring° of the Duke of Cambridge, he should prof addition to the 12,000/.? Lord J. RUSSELL. would rather not au s f r question at present; he would observe, howe'h-r'reP" the allowance to the Duke of Gloucester, ull' erl e i 6 l l / e l e t'a unlwas 14,0001., and he did not at present cot e n te s ti e e ; any circumstances a greater alloweac't 00" k 14,000/. per , annum to the Duke of Cambridge•--ee tio hear.) IV ith reference to the proposition ° f tm eas °ll Member for Montrose, he had already stated tb e eon ni e n which induced him to consider that 12,000 1 . P er p fl lo; was not more than a proper allowance to th e ; i t ; W e ° Cambridge, and he would not detain the Ceran 3- eo repetition of his views. Ho would, however, ta ke t e r of expressing his appreciation of th e I 'sl and moderation with which his Hon. Fried 011 V forwards the views which he entertained on e" - ject.—(Hear, hear.) tier" Mr. V. SMITH thought it would be highlY e s tso l4 ; tory to the country if the Noble Lord wool" to she clause in the Act grautiug the 12,0001. per annnT e f Duke of Cambridge, providing that in the even" f ill" illustrious Duke acceding at any time to the e ll ; '.l ll° Hanover the allowance should COBSP —(fleart d ie s large sum which the present King . of Icia nev e e. tva s every year from the public revenue of Eng isn etlea rJ e source of much dissatisfaction to the country'( to b e e Mr. HEY WORTH called upon the Conalnit t r e le - Wa in mind that all this money was - to come out 11)1 t earnings of the labouring man. • Oe n ' Mr. HENRY DRUMMOND said that if F o sr e l , ll o o/ 0 f had not robbed the Crown of its property--e eesor the Queen w ou ld at t hi s mome nt be the 1 0 ° . " - ona v' such east land e d es t a t es as wou ld re nder it 4 : lite °lit.° cessary to apply to the House f u r any gra ° at the Rot al Fit 1• ). The Committee divided. The numbers evcr. e/ r the motion ••• 17i For the amendmen . t .. f 1 22 The resolutionMea' a j s ority he °' • was t 5 0 then agree to, resolution to authorise the payment oafs num to the Princess Mary, Mr. HUME stat ing s DE P A should not oppose the grant. PA CLERKS IN THE MONEY ORDE R ,--- „ s e MENT 01? THE POST- OFFIG'9• 0 0 ', Mr. ANSTEY rose to cull the attention of th de pOr'' to the petition of 133 clerks in the moncY - Q raor 3,000 t THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 2O, 1850. , 4 te 401