The Sun. — London, England, 1851-07-11 00:00:00

t he *nee (yep` r o ger f life 'h e se 184 6 431;i 10 d pots P re. of for .1 and )Sir the r at coo , ie 'THE " SUN, Sarawak was of an enlightened, paternal, and civilising character. The letter was as follows " I have spent four days at Sarawak. I have conse crated the church according to the request of the dioce lan, the Lord Bishop of London. I have inspected the !tate of the Infant mission, and conferred fully with the indefatigable and zealous chaplain and missionary, the Jut , - T. M'Dougal. I have conversed also with the gen - ti'Ys end have read the several works published on the events which have occurred in the lest few years. It is toY full persuasion that there is no mission on the face of the earth to be compared with that of Borneo. It has been thrown open to Christian enterprise almost by Miracle. One of the darkest recesses of heathen igno. ' l nes, cruelty, and desolation, where piracy, and mur der, and conflagration, and head-hunting stalked abroad i n open day, and the aboriginal inhabitants were in the 80 e Way of being exterminated utterly, is now, so to b 6 Pealt, like the paradise of God. Deliverance has been r r nclaimed—security of person and propasty, equal !iglu% an enlightened and paternal distributive t ns ticet the arts of life, an extending commerce, are already established at Sarawak, and spreading along the whole western coast of Borneo. The Chi- Mlle sea is free from marauders, and all Europe and America may pursue their peace'ul occepaions from si ngapore . to Labuan, 7CO miles. The Christian Inission is. begun, to sanctify and adorn all these secular blessings. Two things, quite unexampled ‘liirour the de s i gn : -I s t. Englishmen have become first ti now to the oppressed Dyaks by a single English gen emtan of benevolence, talent, and singular wisdom and tact of . government, who has received as a token of gra titude from the native princes, a tract of land about ieventy miles by fifty, as his own native territory. To the benefit of the inhabitants of it, this gentleman, who la °iv recognised as the Raja of Sarawak, is devoting time, his fortune, his zeal, his health, his body and , 41 The noble Government of our honoured and be loved Queen, Victoria at home has come forward with l e admirals and brave captains to assist in reducing Pirates which infested the coasts to silence and tran- LiniPity by deeds .4 of almost unexampled heroism. The r t t eng agement with the pirates, about a year and a • f Since, when 120 war-boats, with 2,000 bandits, were rereepted in the very act of plundering and setting heir to villages, sinking native vessels, and murdering e „!'„eir crews, :has humbled and alarmed the whole tribe, .." 11 : _a the chiefs are sending messages to Sarawak, pro- X.ing to turn themselves to honest occupations. In Zie meantime the population of the town has increased, D nineyears, from 1 500 to 12,000 souls, and including e ° Whole terr i tory, to 30,000 . I n t ru th, when I stood ti l l the hill on which the church is erected, and viewed et' s ubJacent town, stretched on the riser's bank, and which the mi ss i on -h ouse and school on the college hill, i; es ie ,.h commands the' opposite shore, I could not but b vete out into thanksgiving to the God of all grace for wolederful wo r k s; and during the very solemn service of _ consecration, I looked with amazement at the neat os wc "pdelt edifice, with its early English arches; its nave, o f eet by 22, and 35 high; its side aisles, and its hand nne communion-plat e pl ace d on the holy table, and its ar st ian congregation-43, of whom 11 were Dyak and in ese--school children seated in the aisle; and when Jnielated in administering the blessed Supper to 19 com ireints, b es id es the clergy, my heart was almost too th i to proceed. . Will England, then, fail to support b o : !° l k thus prosperously begun? Impossible ; it is 111 the nature of our Christian Britain to forget that ea e r Was herself, 1,400 y ears ag o, in as low a state of 4, b h arism as the Dyaks, infested with European pirates, th e l eY are with Asiatic now. No, she is well aware to ' , what the gospel has done for England it can do br Borneo " trw_trasted, if - the name of Raja Brooke were handed e ee ,_ ll in the history of this country as that of a bene d7.2°_rt It would not also be said of him that he had ee'm service to his country, but that it had not been eePreeiated jar ur ) • aJr "QUHART said that the friends of Sir James hisooke should have been the first to court inquiry. For fri e :„ i vo part, he should never stand in that House the -" °any man who, when his conduct was impugned, year rank from • • investigation. He was not present last he w hen the subject was before the House, and he had, ednret studied the papers on the subject which had Oche , aid before the House, and be could not find one the'e_.of evidence to the fact of piracy and justify attack upon the Dyaks. He , had failed to discover tki_eNdence to establish the piratical character attri -0301 to the i n h a bi tants o f S a k arran an d S are b as . The een fe ,' and Learn e d G en tl eman w ho had spoken last had tie n s' u nded the Dyak s a nd the Malays; but the descrip basagiyen in those papers of the pirates of the Indian pi eti , sn owed that the Dyaks were not pirates. The e tt eP had a ll we l l- b u il t vesse l s, armed with artillery, % a ped for open sea serv i ce an d l ong voyages . Th e y %N i l sailed out of the eastern or western ports, ac tenaig as the eastern or western monsoon su i te d, a nd e st 4round the coast pillaging as they proceeded, and ter ne ne4 bY the opposite monsoon to enjoy during the er ea r t TnOus season the produce of their piracy. That Of the Indian Character given in those papers of the pirates flu Dyaks, Archipelago; and it certainly did not ap the fi tt who were described as having vessels e r . _ to continue longer than five days at sea. The that fact, were not irates, fr the best of reasons, the the y had not the means of being so. But supposing b. ete,,, al Ya lta were pirates, what proof had they that the kit e ., .7 had attacked were guilty of piracy? The Ite ee -n "oris of the Admiralty to officers of the navy b a tt4 not to attack any vessel which they had not viewed % e h of piracy, or respecting which they had not kaaevidence as would satisfy a court of justice in Eng ine,. If by their vote that night they decided that no thri!Y should take pla ce into those transactions, then af P. had better ent rust t h e whole administration of the T ye of this gre a t emp i re to the officers of the Crown ti appear to share their responsibility while they only 'caked their crimes. ukr. M. MILNES sa id i t was net denied that the ;Itelays were addicted to piratical pursuits, and he be ,ved it was equally certa i n t h at the Malays had in ',910 instances been en a bl e d t o i n d uce t h e cognacs, but Z u der and weaker, race o f Dyaks to j An them in tho se t rauits. If he were to admit the justice of the charge th e against Raja Brooke, he should beli eve t ea t i aval officers on the station, and that C a ptai n Kep t n his attack of 1845, had been implicated in the Rp j .' es Olot. Nor!, it appeared to him that that eit!,arnoit ross improhability. Sir James Brooke had ti:rolished his fame as a great civiliser in that remote ta t , r t er of the globe, and against such a man those lieu Tits of atrocious cruelty ought not to be lightly be e It appeared that 500 persona were all that had lte th l"lled in the course of those transactions, and it elittiner appeared that the English forces might, by ho„ g off the communication with a small neck of land, 401; slaughtered a much larger number. At the same th tn , t'e Should e x p re ss his sincere gratification that AO l o ad totally abolished that very obnoxious, and he mos e y e :en say' barbarous practice, of granting head those' Tr pirates. He could not help thinking that bad so vehemently discussed that case bad ',eer i e" a most unwise and pernicious course. When he 'es men like his Hon. Friend the Member for the t hose "'ding of Yorkshire (Mr. Cobden) assimilating Ilto ee Zloaeedin gs of Englishmen to some of the worst tetseg s of other nations he; became strongly im eg the with the belief that bis Hon. Friend was inflict tle4h e ii latest injury on two causes in which he no t,b o t a ?_ , lt the liveliest interest—the one, the character of ' che r ' 4 "; and the other the welfare ce mankind at large. t„, t v v "'tad c 4. nothing which tended more to harden the %fi n "' the public than cases like that of false and kite humanity. It was much to be regretted that a th e 0 4 e Sir J. Brooke who had established for himself East sigt.6et reputation ' for justice and humanity in the tre ttah uould be liable to have his character ruined by the p er ,°ha publication of private correspondence. — ` 4 R t 4 l; " e ar.) He could not admit the polfcy of appoint- Proposed Commission. Was that Commission to e alt; e tt d to Borneo; to establish itself at Labuan or Sara by,h.;'d was it to enter into communication with those Roe s? He believed that such a mode of proceeding hefie be perfectly absurd. They had already had laid ihrtoutretutahem, with great accuracy. and . attention, all the of th _ non they could possibly require upon both sides e 0, 21 question, and he thought that they ought then to tc_t_s determine:ikon to reject the motion. te ese r ' bit• DRUM MOND—The Hon. Member for Mon f ,had ftrecarqd the imputation that in bringing this esotion he was g the tool of any one. e t was hot his wish to invalidate any testimony the Hon. ei7oeibratbel might please to give in his own favour upon that Mme ,but he might be permitted to observe that some ] persons were the dupes of others without knowing Rh o (A laugh.) There vsere r e s r s and o for o this, world ta lc , knew how to traduce othe r' part, he pfd not not believe that, trom beginning to end, this *no -41,1 ad any other foundation than a personal deterrni lin4 to ruin the 'elsa:rac'er of Sir J. Brooke He be cehtettato.Lbe fraudulent way in which the Eastern 4 1 1144 t'a *;°l33PanY Was at present proceeding neces st that ruin of Sir l J. Brooke, because he would not 1 4 48 0 ,.,. 1 PIY 4 Y go on cheating. The deprecation of tee Mu. Silumons came with a very bad grace from a 44 Wh • ti tßea N. being in the employment of another, and en beta," mi-epplauding him to the skies, went to a private he °F that man, and slid; " It is wing to my mercy tn sot-convicted.—' (Cries of " Hear, hear.") But At. me to. th; 'Case brought forward by the_Honour e ta`Mber for' Montrdse, the real difficulty of answer iste'dt thie; that there was nothing ldet _ epl y o which had not been replied to itst/l ° °r•--(Elear, hear.). To the Hon. Member for w " - last year was wandering heaven knew Voh, 43, the matter appeared altogether new • but to those e" were, present at the former b discussion ' it was evi -Ite,ltylY.estrhe, old story over again.—(Hear.) It was proved who h a , w °Y r the evidence of every historian and traveller tpe ttion ' 4 , ttten.oo or visited the part of the world in. "ore e i r inat the_ people whom Sir J. Brooke attacked _ger, dia7llB • Liverpool, commercial associations of Manches rerewerivt leteerpool, and London petitioned the Go chant "'foe' protection against them. Were our mar if 8 "elf idiots te eia Ivo _h4 to ask for protection against pirates, salt toof the none in existence?—(Hear, hear.) The for thi; su___ecountry had actually entered into a treaty ;her e ~,e r r.B S tol.l of' piracy. Did not he kuow whether ilawlicsebe epnirates or not ? Was the evidence of Judge 14 4 the fact that point to be thrown overboard, as well kn owi , ss , s five pirates were taken in the act and ac the /I;7%li:heir offence? To avoid these difficulties th o hly , sa r c l i there Montrose started a new dodge. e P e oPle era are pirates there, it is true, but all t 'e deposed, yaks are not so." But unfortunately in g weet„ dangerous n 3 Proved the contrary. A little learn even as regarded a blue-book. e t ut w :s not his intnti th on in t g ‘o read much from that volume; Dyak tell: lion. Member for Stafford had argued that the fegnld not be pirates because they had only small e e iCist he meet quote a passage from page 88, as th e ws:- e[The Hon. Member read a passage in which ri Pirates were described tgged with 0118 roast and aassinhgalveingsmall vessels square sail, &c.] foi c • eause the D y ak s used the sort of vessels best adapted „_ their pirati I raelud ed „ e ca practices the Hon. Member wisely •Stlgieu tte y were not pirates at all.—(H ear and ttn addition to the letter of the )31,4h0p which had been read by the Hon. and Learned Member for Newcastle, he would teke the liberty of quoting a pas sage from a letter written by a clergyman:— " We have now with us several influential chiefs front the neighbouring rivers, and among them the headmen of the Sakarran Dyaks, who have come to ask the Raja to take them under his care, and to send a Euro pean to govern them. Their principal, Oreil l e Kayo, is an especially interesting old man; be has always bees against piracy, and wished to put it down, and, now that his people have agreed to give it up, he is quite happy." When this chief expressed his pleasure because his people had agreed to give up piracy, it might fairly be assumed that up to that moment they had been pirates, —(Hear, hear.) This alone ought to be sufficient to establish the fact in the mind ef any rational man. It might not, however, produce that effect on the Hon. Member for Montrose The Hon. Member would not easily admit that he was satisfied, and, if the House were not to escape an annual motion on the subject until he made The acknowledgment, it would have :o kuhmit to the ir.fliction for many years to come.—(Laughter,) Hear what Captain Hastings said:— "If I cau beef the smallest service to you in giving any assistance to resist the cruel and unjust persecution which some evil disposed persona are waging against you. I beg you will command the services of, my dear Sir James Brooke, yours faithfully, " G. F. HASTINGS." This letter was dated February, 1851.—(Hear, hear.) Again, hear Captain Wallage:— " I offered a reward for all prisoners who should be brought to me, and, in consequence, one Dysk was cap tured, and this man freely allowed the predatory and piratical habits of the Sarebas people and his own share in them for many years past." That letter was dated the 17th of October, 1850. The following passage was from the deposition of a native:— "I, Mahomed Kassim, of Singapore, trader, do sin cerely and solemnly declare, that many years ago, at the time when Mr. Crawford was resident at Singapore, I went from Singapore to Sadog, on the north-west coast of Borneo, on a trading voyage in a prahu of about fif teen koyans. I remained at Sadong about eight months, and during that period went to various places on the coast. In these) expeditions the boat in which I went was always well armed, as I was afraid of the Dyaks. During the time I remained at Sadong seven Malay prahus, belonging to Bruni, Sambas, and the neighbouring islands, were cut off by the Dyaks. The Dyaks cut off the heads of the people found in the prahus, no matter what nation they belonged to, and took the goods." . But it was useless to read these passages, for they were but a repetition of what had been stated before. Mr. Crawford was a great authority with the Hon. Member for Montrose—he was a perfect Godsend to him. Mr. HUME said, he had not named Mr. Crawford. Mr. HENRY DRUMMOND would not let the Hon. Member off on that plea.—(A laugh.) Mr. Crawford came as a witness before a Committee appointed to in quire into some other matter—an Ordnance survey, .or something of that sort—and, having got him there, " Oh, oh !" thought the Hon. Member for Montrose, "I will get something out of you about Borneo." Mr. Crawford was not very well acquainted with the habits of nations in those parts, as was evident from an anecdote related of him. It was stated that he went once to visit the So vereign of Siam; and some person, by way of a joke, told him that it was the custom for strangers to take off their shoes before appearing in the presence of the King. Mr. Crawford accordingly left his shoes at the door; but when he quitted the audience they were gone, and he had to walk home barefooted through the mud.— (Laughter.) The Honourable Member for Montrose exptcted that Mr. Crawford would prove a great card for him; but when he came to be examined he stated that he knew nothing of the matter, except what he had got out of Sir James Brooke's diary.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member was not very nice respecting the quraters to which he applied for information. As long as he could get up a charge against a colonial governor, he did not stick at trifles.—(Laughter.) Some time ago there appeared in the Daily News a letter written by a Mr. Miles, the same gentleman, he believed, whom the Hon. Member had that evening referred to as the author of a letter, without naming him. Mr. W. H. Miles, was a gentleman who followed the occupation of a butcher, with which he united the more honourable profession of a boxer, and it happened that owing to a little misfor tune he went abroad at the Queen's expense.—(A laugh.) Lord Bacon said that there were two ways of making a man wise, by books and by travel. It was Mr. Miles's fortune to profit by the latter:— " Mores hominum multorum visit et urbes." —(Laughter.) This gentleman went out to Borneo, and on his return to this country he took it into his bead to write a letter to the Sultan; and, remembering that great sovereigns, when they visited other countries, were usually treated to a review of the troops of those countries, in order to inspire them with an high idea of their military prowess, and wishing to convey a fine impression of England to the Sultan, he (Mr. Miles) re solved—for great men were never at a loss for resources —he resolved to send him a picture of the Horse-guards —(Laughter)—and here it is (said the Hon. Member, holding up the letter with a vignette view of the Horse guards at the top of it).—(Continued laughter.) The letter was as follows: "My Dear Sultan,—Alth in London 1,600 miles awhay from you I do not forget you and Borneo and when I come back to Singapore I shall come and see you I have told all my friends in London what nice old Gentleman you are—(Laughter)—and are mush pleased with the account of Borneo and the plosent life the Malays lead the Queen had A little boy the other day I should not be surprized if it is not called The Sultan— (Laughter)—l must buy some little present in London for the Sultan Before I leeve Mrs. Miles and all Her friends sends there Kind Complements to the Sultan tender my respects to Pengaren Molmean and Pengaren Maccootar and all the other Pengarens and nobles of Brunie. :Opiug this will find you all well believe me Dear Sultan "Yours Respectfully " 'WILLIAM HENRY MILES, " late Pengaren Miles Labuan. " London, 24th May, 1840. " P.S. This is the Queens Birthday I drank your and Her very good Helth in A bumper and wished you might live A hundred years." Now, upon the strength of this letter, he denied that the letter which the Hon. Member for Montrose had received and published as his was written by this man.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Drummond) would like very much, if the Honourable Member would hand over the manuscript of the letter to him or to some of his friends, and allow t he handwriting to be compared with that of the letter he had just read.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Drum mond) believed that the letter read by the Honourable Member was cooked; for the fact was that. Mr. Miles could not spell, and therefore he could not have spelled this letter, which was published in his name; and he did not believe the handwriting was like this.—(Here the Hon. Member tossed the letter across the House to Mr. Hume.) But he bad no doubt he could easily get ano ther handwriting to resemble the one the Hon. Gentle man had got.—(Hear, hear.) The whole of this trans action from first to last was a very di,croditable one.— (Hear, hear.) There was, he knew, a mock patriotism which thought that it was always doing the public a service by finding fault with people in office, and parti cularly with those in distant settlements; whereas it was to official men in distant settlements that they ought to be more than ordinarily ready to extend their protec tion.—(Hear. hear.) The House should remember the many worthless adventurers who went out from this country to those settlements for the purpose of repairing their broken fortunes and character, and with whom official men were necessarily thrown into contact; and how any mark of just severity which might be mea sured out to those characters was sure to furnish abun dant opportunity for slander.—(Hear, hear.) He did hope that the House would, with a high hand, reject this motion, although he could not hope that that would put an end to the matter. At the bottom and root of it all was the author to whom he had before pointed, and so long as he was alive (so we understood the Hon. Mem ber) he believed that the slanders would live also. Mr. MACGREGOR, on the part of the Archipelago Company, of which he was chairman, denied there was any foundation for the charges of fraud which the Hon. Member for West Surrey bad brought against the com pany ; and said he believed the Government would bear him out in the denial. Mr. DRUMMOND said he meant the manager of the company. The truck system, disreputable in individuals, was more so in a company, and still more so in an inci pient oolon g, where the moat scrupulous faith ought to be kept with the natives. It was managed thus—a shop was kept by the company's superintendent, from which the native workmen and native traders received half their pay and half th e i r money d eman d s , i n goo d s .Tbus a piece of balacher, or grey shirting, costs in Singapore 2 dollars, or 1 dollar 90c., which the native must take i n payment for 3 dollars. If the native refuses, be could t w i i e th co t u h r e t, beeofinorpeanynor work for it. The fact Sir J. Brooke and two other e n a o m t e de c a u l judges, in this way,—to establish a date on a trial in which company's superintendent handed ine was aciaaanwtiittyneosfs,"tp the comp a ny' s (rice in husk), which receipt was signed by the native plaintiff in the case. The receipt was fairly written in English for above 200 dollars, and the native incidentall y stated that half the money-price had been paid in grey s hi rt i ngs; so that either the superintendent b ad cheated t he company or the company bad cheated the p eo p le ; but, in either case, the people were robbed.--(Hear, hear.) Mr. B. COCHRANE said that, after the speeches which had been made, it was u nnecessary for any one to rise in defence of Sir James Brooke. (He hear.) He hoped, however, the House would allow him, es he had been requested to do so, to refer to the testimony of his relative, Sir T. Cochrane, with regard to Sir J. Brooke, in a letter addressed to the First Lord of the Admiralty. The language of the Hon. Member for Montrose led to an impression that Sir T. Cechrane was opposed to the conduct of Sir J. Brooke. Now, Sir T. Cochrane stated that on two different occasions Sir J. Brooke had placed himself under his command, and that his first acquaintance with him was in 1845, when piracy became daring on the west coast of Borneo, to an extent to endanger not only Britich commerce, but the peace of the inhabitants. Sir T. Cochrane further stated that in the following year Sir J. Brooke rendered him important service, and resided six weeks on board the flag-ship ; and that he found him to be " one of the most mild, considerate. single-minded men he ever met with."— (Cheers.) With regard to the attack on the Sarebas and Sakarran tribes, Sir T. Cochrane was of opinion that it would not have been resorted to' if there had not existed an absolute necessity, and that having heard that these tribes were disturbing the Sarawak settle ment, he effered to place a force at the disposal of Sir J. Brooke to bring them to reason; but that so far from availing himself of it, he informed him that he wished to try gentle and peaceful means.—(Hear, hear.) With regard to the loss of life attending the attack, Sir T. Cochrane accounted for it partly by the utter careless ness which Malays, when irritated, displayed concerning their lives, often looking upon self-immolation as a A .. _ .t' LONDOI 4 4T, virtue, and a thing to be desired.—(Hear, hear). Such was the testimony of one every way competent to form an opinion. His (Mr. B. Cochrane's) anxiety on the present occasion was to have his name associated with a debate and with a vote which he hoped would satisfy the public generally that a public man had done his duty nobly and in an honourable manner.—(Hear.) Mr. GLADSTONE said that in his judgment the Hon. Member did honour to himself by availing himself of the very testimony which he had quoted as to the character of the distinguished man accused on this oc casion, against whom, as appeared to him, no inconsi derable amount of personal* animosity existed.—(Hear, hear.) In this hostile feeling with respect to Sir J. Brooke, he did not share. There was nothing which had been said by his Hon. Friend who had just sat down, so far as his limited knowledge extended, in which he shonld not be disposed cordially to concur. He re garded Sir J. Brooke with great respect as a man of energy, truly British, and as being in his heart and in tentions—whatever errors of judgment he may, like others, have fallen into—guided by a philanthropy truly Christian.—(Cheers.) He could not vote for the motion ef the Hon. Member for Montrose on specific grounds, which he would afterwards state. At the same time, he must say, be could not concur in the unqualified lan guage which had been used in opposition to that motion.—(fleir ) He could not vote for the mo tion, because it appeared to him to combine together a great number of subjects that had no proper con nexion, and to assume, in too marked a manner—if not exclusively—the character of a personal charge against Sir James Brooke. Be thought the Hon. Member for Montrose would be the first to admit, if his motion was of such a character, that by voting in favour of it he' would imply a presumptive acquiescence in that charge. In respect to the general position of Sir James Brooke, and to the combination of,-offices in his person, however critical 'that position might be, or however expedient it might be as a rule of administration to combine 'such offices, be did not think that the House, addressing the Crown for a commission efinquiry on the subject, which belonged more properly to the Executive, would be alto gether just. With respect to the 'charge as to the de struction of a certain number of human beings, if cor rect in his view, there was no reason why Sir James Brooke should be selected as either singly or mainly re sponsible for these proceedings. .That was a point upon which they were competent to form an opinion, and he wished to know who those persons were, as it would be the duty of the House to call on them to render an ac count of their proceedings. He understood Sir J. Brooke to be invested with a threefold official character:-1. As Raja of Sarawak; (2) as consul in the dominions of the Sultan of Borneo; and (3.) as Governor of Labuan. But in no one of these capacities bad he any authority over the forces of her Majesty. What he might have done, had the action alluded to taken place in the waters of Labuan, was a different matter; but, as it happened, it took place 100 miles distant. With re spect to that action, he understood Sir J. Brooke to be an -advising and consenting party, if not the party primarily responsible. If the House should think that there was a misuse of the naval power in the waters of Borneo on the 31st July, 1849, it appeared to him that they were not entitled to call on Sir J. Brooke—who was not the person in command—to bear the responsibility, but must deal with it in the ordinary form, and hold the party in command responsible for the use or misuse of the torte entrusted to him. On that ground he could not accede to a motion which served to indicate that Sir James Brooke was the person on whom the responsi bility of that action ought to rest. But he must also confess that with regard to the other and main point, he could not come to the same conclusion as the Hon. Member for Montrose—he meant the point whether the tribes attacked were piratical or not. He was not in clined to say that it was a point placed beyond the pos sibility of doubt, but after having taken the greatest pains in examining the evidence, it appeared to him that the balance of testimony was in favour of the opinion that those particular tribes were to be dis tinguished from the rest of the Dyaks, and that they were what might be termed piratical, though their piracy was not of that formidable kind which led to the attack of European vessels.—(Hear, hear.) If that, then, were the point at issue, he was bound to say that a piratical character attached to these tribes.—(Hear.) Upon this point, be must say, he attached importance to the evidence of Sir James Brooke. He had such en tire confidence in his humanity, honour, and integrity, that he received his evidence, even where he had an ap parent interest, with the most unqualified confidence. — (hear, hear.) This matter, too, he had reason to be lieve had been judicially argued before Sir C. Rawlinson in 1849. That part of the question he believed was before him; and the evidence then was sufficiently mi nute to convince . him that the judge had decided that these tribes were piratical. This matter; too, had been argued before Dr. Lushington. The objection to the payment of head-money had been made by the Queen's Advocate, on the ground"that the parties were not, pi rates; and Dr. Lushington, he believed, had come to The decision that the tribes were of a piratical character. But even if there were some doubt remaining on his mind on this subject, he must at the same time say that no suffi cient ground had been made for an inquiry such as the Hon. Member proposed.—(Hear, hear.) But then he came to what constituted the real difficulty in this case; and after listening to the sarcasm and satire of the Hon. Member for Surrey, he said that this question was not one that was to be disposed of by taunts directed against the Honourable Member for Mentrose.—(Hear, hear.) As to that Honourable Member it was not often his for. tune to vote on the same side with him; but still he was bound to express his conviction that no man brought greater honesty of purpose, or greater determina tion to do justice, in every case like the present that he undertook, than the same Hon. Member.—(Cheers.) They had . now to consider what was the real question that was submitted to their judgment. In his opinion the terms of the motion of the-Hon. Member were liable to objection—that it fixed upon Sir J. Brooke a responsi bility that did not pre-eminently belong to him; but then it was for the House to determine, not bow the blame that attached to these transactions was to be distributed, but of the fact that was placed before them—namely, that there bad been a great destruction of human life, and whether that destruction had been warranted? — (Hear, hear.) He brought no charge of cruelty against those who had been engaged in this enterprise. He be lieved ne such motive influenced them; and if he doubted that there was legality in their proceedings, he did so admitting that they believed that they were acting with a view to what were ultimately the interests of hu manity. But admitting this did not dispose of the ques tion.—(Hear.) When in that House they heard the name of " pirates" mentioned, it was supposed that was the whole question. It was not so. Their relations with pirates were regulated by law; and if they were, then they were found to observe the law when dealing with pirates as when dealing with other criminals who were not pirates, or with persons who were not criminal. What was the law in thus dealing with pirates? It was chiefly needful to refer to two Acts of Parlianient. The first Act referred to head-money, and it was most vague in its language as to the manner of treating pirates. It gave rewards for the capture and destruction of pirates; and there was, in point of fact, nothing in it to impeach the legality of these proceedings. By the Act of 1837 circumstances, however, were changed. It declared that in all cases an act of piracy was not a capital offence. It enabled them to kill pirates, to capture the rest; but by the second section of that Act it was enacted that if a person acting as a pirate resisted his being captured, be was liable to be - put to death ; that all persons en gaged in active resistance were liable to capital punish ment. But then when they came to the third section of the same Act they would find it declared that any man convicted of an act of piracy, not connected with resistance, should be liable, not to theepunishment of death, to which he would be subjected before the pass ing of the Act, but to be sentenced by the court to transportation for life. Instead, then, of piracy being a capital offence, it was one only liable to transporta tion. Here, then, they had to observe that they had in flicted the punishment of death upon 500 persons. There were only two cases in which they could do so—in case of active resistance, or their not submitting to capture, and in the attempt,to capture slaying them. He put this case to the House, to her Majesty's Government, and espe cially to the law officers of the Government. Did these 500 persons thus put to death fall under one or other of these cases? He did not quote the evidence of any men whose handwriting was questioned. He quoted the account of those engaged in the transaction, and who stated the parti culars of it as one that did them high honour. Were these 500 persons deprived of life without a legal warrant, such as there would be in either of the cases he bad sup posed ?—(Hear.) When the action began there was partial resistance from some of the prahus ; but that resistance was partial, and it very soon ceased. The resistance was followed by flight, and the flight by pur suit; but then it was only a nominal pursuit, for the means of flight were ridiculous as compared with the means of pursuit. Now, what said Captain Wallis? That he saw 16 or 17 prahus escaping, and on their com ing abreast of him he fired a broadside loaded with ca nister shot along their whole line—he raked them along his whole line as they were escaping, and not resisting. —(Hear.) Now, what he asked for was a vindication of this proceeding.—(Hear, hear.) , According to this rsi dence, a great number of lives were sacrificed when the men were not resisting. These litres were sacrificed de liberately—(Hear)—but whether from humane motives or not he did not inquire; but they were sacrificed with out that legal 'sanction which was required, when they were dealing with pirates, as if they were dealing with any other class of criminals. This, then, was the diffi culty that presented itself to his mind. This it was which justified them in addressing the Crown for an inquiry, not as against Sir J. Brooke, but into the whole of the proceedings. It was to the Government he looked for a vindication of these proceedings, and he hoped it would have been made through some Member on the part of the Government in the early part of the, ev ening; for it was their duty to inquire into every such nase--to ascertain the legality of the proceedings of their officers abroad as well as at home—it was their duty to the to r r ig d h p ts Al f e v ery do so, as the only permanent security and guarantee for 570% l am sa e i u d i — stt L er ß y confesse m 7— ( I C h n e e e v r e s r . ) 11 e . ard a debate in which the arguments and the facts have been more completely all on one side than in the present— (Hear, hear)—and I must pay the Hon. Member for Montrose the compliment of saying, that though he often brings strong opinions to 'sustain any question he sub mits to this House, yet the natural candour of his mind was shown in the manner in which he proposed his mo tion this evening. I could not but see that his convie lions, which were so strong when, the subject was last, debated, have been somewhat, shaken this year—(Hear, hear)—and although he has not altogether departed from his sentiments previously expressed, still those who heard him—and I am sorry to say that not many of those who are now present did so—(Laughter)—still they must have remarked that be did not show the same confidence in the soundness of his conclusions which he exhibited on a former occasion.--(Hear, hear.) The question Lies, as it has been saiu by the , Hon. Member .for ,Stafford (hir. Urquhart), h? almost, a nuts hell . The g gestiQn EVENING, FRIDAY r simply is, were the persons attacked by the combined force in the Indian service—by her Majesty's forces and those under the command of Sir J. Brooke—were they or were they not pirates?—(hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentkman who had spoken last has remarked that no member of her Majesty's Government has risen till a late .peried of the debate to - state the views of the Go vernment. His Hon. Friend the Under Secretary for the Colonies did rise at an early hour; but he gave way to another who had been more fortunate to attract your eye. The real question, then, here, is this—were the Dyaks so attacked pirates, or were they not? In determining this question I shall first address myself to the argument of the Right Hon. Gentleman who has . just sat down, aid who admits for the sake of argument that they were pirates; but who contends that there was illegality in the manner of dealing with them as pi rates. The Right Gentleman contends that the change in the law effected by the Act of 1837, by which capital punishment imposed upon those convicted before a court of law was abolished, and transportation substituted in its room—that that change prevents the destruction of persons as pirates. The argument has no application to the case in point. If those persons bad been captured —if they bad been taken prisoners, and if upon their being taken prisOeers they had been, without trial, or a sentence of a court, executed, then I should admit that the argument of the Right Hon. Gentleman would be applicable. There can be no doubt that since the law h:.td been altered that courts of justice can no longer ap ply the penalty of death to persons convicted merely of piracy; and it a court of law did order their execution, or persons without trial had executed their prisoners who were pirates, then the objections of the Right Hon. Gentleman would apply. But then to deal with pirates under the law you must have possession of them as prisoners —you must have token ;them.—(Hear, hear.) Now the. peculiar character of the Malays is that they preferred being killed to their being captured.— (Hear, hear.) Take the , analogous case of an ordi nary enemy in common war. It is not lawful to kill a prisoner taken in war ; you are not at liberty to deal with him as you please; but as long as he is en gaged as your enemy, and until he asks " quarter" and puts himself in your power, you continue your hostili ties against him. You do so until he by his own act places himself in your power, and claims your forbear ance. Until he does that you treat him and pursue him as an enemy.—(Hear.) I cannot, then, conceive how the Act of 1837 can have any reference to a transaction of this. kind; but then taking the broader question— were these parties pirates or not? I remember in de bates on this question in former years we had much broader assertions than we have heard to-night. We were told that there might in those Eastern seas be 'tribes who were engaged in newly-described operations, —it was Omitted that they had a strong disposition for amiable proceedings designated "inter-tribal war" — (Laughter)--harmless at the least to others,—but, as to piracy—as to directing attacks upon merchant ships—as to pillaging square-rigged vessels ! Oh ! there was no such thing as piracy like that in the Indian Archipelago! —(Laughter.) Why, I have laid upon the table of this House proof upon proof that there was piracy, in the sense of attacking square-rigged vessels—in the sense of murdering crews—in the sense of plundering every thing; and that this prevailed for years over the whole extent of those seas.—(Hear, hear.) That very document to which the Hon. Member for Montrose has referred as being laid on the table to-day,—and which I regret I could not have • given him much sooner in order that he might have more fully mastered its con tents—is an uninterrupted history of operations of the Netherlands Government for years against a vast and extensive system of piracy in those seas.—(Hear, hear.) I have a dispatch from the Consul at Manilla, giving an account of the operations conducted the other day by Spain against the pirates at Sooloo, and in that dispatch he draws a contrast between the accounts he had to give at former periods and at the present time. He states that—" Whereas it was my duty in former years gone by to record instances of merchantmen attacked, of the crews of wrecked merchantmen carried off into slavery of American, British, and other square-rigged vessels having disappeared' and never been heard of, being pre sumed to have been carried off by pirates ; now, in con sequence of the recent operations of the British ships of war upon the northern coast of Borneo, and the opera tions of the Dutch and Spaniards, trade is becoming secure, and the proceedings of the pirates are, at all events for the moment, considerably checked."—(Hear, hear.) I suppose that no man now Who has r ead the papers that have been laid upon the table will for an instant deny that piracy to an enormous extent has pre vailed all through the seas around Borneo. Well, then, the other question is, and it is a very simple one, were these tribes of Dyaks of Sarebas alone and singly exempt from the guilt which tainted the other tribes and nations in that country ? Why, Sir, there are two proofs that they were guilty of that same crime. We have the depositions of two masters of native vessels who were examined by Commander Butterworth, and who declared, as the papers on the table proved, that the Dyaks of Sarebas were known habitual pirates, and that though they themselves had not been attacked by them, they knew them to be habitual pirates. We have other proofs, which my Hon. Friend could not find in the papers delivered this morning. These proofs, by a singular coincidence, include the report of a person made by him to the Dutch Government years ago, which stateddistinctly the Dyaks were pirates, which described the way they commenced operations in the same kind of light boats and vessels which my Hon. Friend contended they could not, commit piracy in; and the report further said the weapons' consisted of swords, javelins, and spears; in short, he described the very kind of expedi tions escribed by my Hon. Friend as a proof that the Dyaks wore not guilty of piracy. —(Hear, hear.) We have proof that piracy to an enormous extent pre vailed in the seas of Borneo, and it is impossible to say that the Dyaka were exempt from guilt, or to deny, after the concurrent testimony of masters of native vessels at Singapore and the report of a person to the Dutch Government, that the Dyaks bad Ist en guilty of the crime of piracy in a particular way. What, then, has given rise to the charges against Sir J. Brooke?—(Hear, hear.) Ido not wish to purane the inquiry from whence arise the sources of this persever ing, this malignant persecution.—(Hear, hear.) lam not applying these words to any one in this House. But, Sir, lam convinced this House, by an overwhelming thisi majority, will negative the m o ti on o f my H on. F r iend — (Hear, hear)—and by doi ng so pu bli s h to t h e wor ld that ith u S n irj r a n m is (Cheers.) lam persuaded h e w ill cont i nue to en j o y the estimation of his country men as a man who, overc ooling difficulties and facing d angers i n di stant climates—pre viously almost unknown—has done much to promote commerce and the interests of the country, and to infuse civilization into regions which before were in a state of the darkest barbarhim.—(Loud cheers.) Mr. COBDEN agreed with the Right Hon. Gentle man (Mr. Gladstone) that persons employed by the Ad miralty ought to look after pirates. We paid a large sum towards maintaining a force in the Indian and Chi nese seas. The complement of ships to protect these seas was 17, with 3,700 men, which, with their relief, made up a force• of 25 vessels and 4,209 men . This force was kept up n o t t o guard those seas from pirates, but to protect our commerce in the Indian and Chinese oceans. Having a large force there, with a responsible admiral, we ought to look to them rather than to proclamations at Fishmongers' Hall dinners by Sir J. Brooke that he would put down the Borneo pirates.—(oll, oh.) He would come to the Noble Lord's question, were the parties slaughtered in the Bornean seas pirates or not? Let not . the Noble Lord talk of the large majority in that House. He could tell him if the evidence which could be produced was disregarded, that circumstance would give tenfold force to the feeling that existed on the subject. His Hon. Friend had brought forward the evi dence of five letters written by naval commanders stationed on the coast. Three had given their names, two had not disclosed their names, but had furnished them to his Hon. Friend. One letter was from Com mander Daniel, who stated that he never heard that the Dyaks attacked English vessels; Sir Edward Belcher expressed the same opinion, and so did . Commander Young. They were willing to give evidence on the sub ject if called upon. The other two writers both stated that the Dyaks were not pirates. Ho believed that the feeling of these captains in the Indian seas was largely shared in by the service generally, who felt the humilia tion which these actions brought on the navy indiscrimi nately. Here were five witnesses to the circumstances alleged against Sir J. Brooke, and be believed their evidence would have some effect on public opinion. He had not the honour of knowing Sir J. Brooke personally. He might be a very honourable man; but what had been his career in Sarawak? Sir J. Brooke commenced by certain transactions with a Borneo chief, which ended in his becoming master of the territory of that chief and getting a grant of sovereignty confirmed by the Sultan of Borneo. When he heard of this occurrence he was anxious Government should not become partners in this territory, as we had already too much of the same sort of territorial acquisitions under our control. His alarm was not, unfounded, and he believed both Sir R. Peel and Lord Stanley, who were consulted, were of opinion it was not for the advantage of this country that we should have more territory of that kind. The next thing they heard was, that Sir J. Brooke was at war with his neighbour, and that English vessels were called upon to take part in the contest. Sir J. Brooke took credit to himself for putting down pi racy in Borneo, which was 2,000 miles distant from his territory. Why was Borneo imported into the question at all? And when he found ships of war engaged in this warfare, he naturally inquired whether the Dyaks were pirates or not. He would refer to the testimony of Mr. John Crawford, who was as well or better acquainted with the races and language of the Indian Archipelago than any other living man. He was of opinion it was not advisable we should take possession of this new terri tory. Mr. Crawford said, the Dyaks of Borneo were wholly distinct from Malays, and, therefore, when these races were jumbled together, as they bad been in the de bate, he was satisfied the subject was not properly un derstood. He could bring authority to show tbat the Dyaks were not pirates, and ho therefore wanted proofs to justify the cruelties exercised towards these people. He wanted proofs that the Dyaks were pirates. He had never heard an instance adduced in which Dyaks had committed an act of piracy against English ves sels. He demurred to the doctrine that we were to go over to the Sultan of Borneo, and ask him, "Have you anybody to kill ?" Before we killed peo ple, we should have inquired whether these Dyak tribes had not grievances to redress that justified their acts. But then he found there was the occupation of. more than Sarawak. Sir J. Brooke had been lauded for his disinterestedness ; but he found that Sir J. Brooke had already gone into his neighbour's territory carrying on the war there. How had Sir J. Brooke been conducting himself since ho was in Sarawak? Every one, knew where the pirates abounded ; but bad Sir J. Brooke confined himself to those places? From the year 1839 to 1849, Sir J. Brooke had been engaged in attacking, ap d taking , Dyak villages and, vessels. Though Sir J. Broolie went oui as a governor of La- JULY 11, 1851. buan he was always found 300 miles distant—at Sara wak, making war on the Dyaks, not putting down pi rates. The evid,nce adduced did not appear to him (Mr. C.) to prove that Sir J. Brooke was engaged in putting down pirates. On the contra, it show e d th a t he had been carrying on a war with his next neighbours —a war of territory, by which he thought be would bo enabled to take possession of his neighbour's lands as well as those of which he had possessed himself in Sarawak. v The country had a right to ask that some proof should be given that these two identical tribes had ever committed one act of piracy upon any European vessel. The manner in which this question was met was a monstrous insult to their tin derstanding.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped that whatever the decision of this House might be, the country would not let the question rest where it was. He thought the Hon. Member for Montrose deserved the gratitude of the civilized world for his attempt to rescue the country from the stigma that pressed upon it, so long as this matter was allowed to remain as it was.— (Laughter.) They were disposed to think no more of this amount of human life than if it were so many dogs that were destroyed. And the opponents to this iiAuiiy had even mixed up in their arguments professions of religicn and Christianity. But did they present them selves to the inhabitants of Borneo as Christians and as followers of the New Testament, which even commanded them to love their enemies, when they slaughtered 500 unfortunate beings, who had never done them any harm? If the country had not moral force to insist upon an in quiry into this matter, never let them sat themselves up again as patterns of r, ligion and morality. On the con trary, let them at once candidly admit that they had been guilty of the greatest atrocities up:a the coast of Borneo. Sir F. THESIGER called the attention of the House to the many proofs contained in the papers bA fore the House of the tribes of Sarebas and Sakarran being pi rates. This question had been the subject of judicial inquiry and of judicial determination. In 1844, on a question arising as to the right of the crew of the Dido to receive head-money in respect to an engagement had under the command of Captain Keppel, the provisions of the 6th George IV. were discussed, and the question was whether the tribes of Sakarran were really pirates or not? The judge who presided on the occasion was one known for his high intelligence, and whose feelings would revolt from the bare idea of oppression or cruelty. The Queen's advocate raised the question. That learned judge pronounced that the proof was conclusive. On the 31st July, 1849, the same question arose before another judge. Deposition after deposition was produced, which proved clearly and dis tinctly that these tribes of Sarebas and Sakarran were pirates. The decision of the judge proceeded on that ground, and then the Hon. Member for the West Riding of Yorkshire appealed to the House for proof of that important fact.—(Cheers.) He thought that the Hon. Member for the West Riding of Yorkshire must be very hard to be satisfied if he did not take these facts as conclusive of the proof.—(Hear, hear.) He (Sir Fre deric Thesiger) rose principally to address himself to a question raised by the Right Honourable Gentleman the Member for the University of Oxford (Mr. Gladstone); and he was anxious that it should not go forth to the world on the credit of that Right Honourable Gentle man's reputation and authority that any doubt could at all exist with regard to the legality of the proceedings. The point which the Right Hon. Gentleman had taken was this, namely, that an Act having passed in 1837 which reduced the punishment for piracy from death to transportation, that, therefore, it was not lawful to put these pirates to death unless they had resisted, because under the second section of the Act it was only in case of resistance that the parties were liable to capital punishment; and the Right Hon. Gentleman further said that although several vessels had been engaged in this enterprise, only a few of them had made any re sistance, and therefore it was not lawful for those en gaged in her Majesty's service to do more than capture the other vessels that were not so actively engaged in resistance. He (Sir F. Thesiger) should venture to have thought that, where a number of vessels were engaged in one common enterprise, and a portion of them had offered resistance, that that circumstance was quite suf ficient to warrant an attack upon the whole of them.— (Cheers.) He would concede to the Right Hon. Gen . . . tleman that, supposing the case was one which came within the Act of Parliament, it was then not a lawful course to pursue. But let them see whether the Right Honourable Gentleman had not made a mistake upon this subject. They knew well that not the law, for there was no law with pirates—(Hear)—but the general rule was, that pirates were the enemies of the human race—(Hear, hear)—and might be exterminated to protect peaceful commerce throughout the world.— (Hear, hear.) The law in regard to piracy in England was dependent upon the 6th Geo. IV., which, for the encouragement of its suppression, gave head money in respect to every person on board every piratical vessel. But, said the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Act of 1837 reduced the punishment from death to transportation. No doubt it did, but then his Right Hon. Friend must have perceived from the character of the punishment that it was not applicable to the Malays and Sakarrans. —(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") This Act applied only to British subjects.—(Cheers.) It would be extraordi nary for them to think of transporting the subjects of another country under the provisions of an English Act. — (Laughter.) It would bo ridiculous for them to attempt to bring such parties to trial and to transport them beyond the seas to any place where her Majesty might think fit. —(Hear.) At that late hour he would not occupy any more of the time of the House. He trusted that this unfounded accusation, so pertinaciously and unrelent ingly persevered in, would be at last put an end to by a triumphant majority that night.—(Cheers.) Colonel THOMPSON would state the reason why he would vote for the Hon. Member for Montrose. He no more believed in Dyak pirates in Borneo than he be lieved in dragons in Cappadocia.—(Laughter.) The evidence adduced was as convincing and overwhelming on their side as it was possible to adduce. That evidence might not tell in that House, but it would in the country. Mr. FORSTER said if these parties were not pirates he wished to know what they were? He held in his hand an extract from Lloyd's List, giving tho number of vessels captured or destroyed since August, 1539, to February, 1851, upon the coast of Borneo, by which it appeared that upwards of forty vessels had been sacrificed by these pirates.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME, in reply, denied the accuracy of the statement, and declared that he could adduce the most unanswerable evidence (if this inquiry were granted) to disprove these assertions. Everything that bad passed that evening convinced him more and more of the correctness of his original statement.—(Laughter.) The Hon. Member concluded by stating that he would take the sense of the House on the motion. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion Against it ... Majority ... -. 230 ...----211 Tho announcement was received with loud cheering. The Stock in Trade Bill then went through Commit tee, so likewise did the Tur npik o Trusts Arrangement Bill, the Militia Ballot Suspension Bill, the Summary Jurisdiction (Ireland) Bill, the Petty Sessions (Ireland) Bill. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, July 10. (Sittings at Nisi I'riu3 at Guildhall, before Lord CAMP BELL and a Special Jury.) HEAD V. THE EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWAY COMPANY. HEAD AND WIFE Y. THE SAME. These were two actions which had been brought against the Eastern Counties Railway Company to re cover compensation in damages for certain injuries which the plaintiffs had sustained, in consequence of a collision which took place upon the Eastern Counties line on the 23d of December last, by reason of the alleged negligence of the company's servants. Lord CAMPBELL suggested that both actions should be tried at the same time by the same jury, and this propo sition being acceded to by both sides, the cases proceeded toeethor. Sir F. Thesiger and Mr. M. Chambers, Q.C., appeared for the plaintiffs ; vill for the defe n d ants. and Mr. Crowder, Q.C., and Mr. Bo- The nature of the plaintiff's' cases will be fully under stood by simply premising that the collision took place by the Enfield express train running into the Hertford train, while the latter was waiting for only a few mi nutes on its down journey at the Stratford station. The evidence given by the plaintiffs' witnesses was as fol- laws: — William Atkinson examined—l was station. master at the Shoreditch station on the 23 d of December last. There was a book kept there of the times wh en th e trains started. The Brentwood tra i n was advertised to start at 4.20, the Hertford train at 4 . 30, the Enfield ex press at 4.45, and the Norwich express at 5. The Brent wood train called at every station. It was a Stopping train. The distance from Bishopsgate to Hertford is about 31 miles. The Hertford train did not stop at Mile-end or Bow, but its first stoppage was at Stratford. The Enfield express ran by Stratford, and stopped two miles beyond Stratford. The Norwich express did not stop till it got to Waltham. The Brentwood train, to the best of my recollection, started at 4.30, 10 minutes after its time. The book is kept by one of the company's servants, a porter on the platform. He is appointed to keep the time. Mr. CROWDER here objected to the witness's looking at the book. The witness continued—The Stratford train started at 4.40. My impression is that the Enfield express started at 4.52. Cross-examined—The Brentwood train leaves the main line just before the Stratford station. The Hert ford train goes on the Cambridge line. The Enfield ex press goes to Marsh-gate, four miles beyond Stratford. The Norwich express continues on the Cambridge line. About Christmas there is a great difficulty in keeping the time. There was a dense fog on the 23d of Decem ber. It was impossible to see anything worse. Fog sig nals are prepared for use on that line. They explode by detonating powder. All the officers at all the sta tions are provided with them. Persons are appointed to put them on the line. On this day we had given out 1,000 or 1,500, and persons were appointed at 150 or 200 yards apart along the line. I have no doubt they were used on this occasion; at least, I issued mote from time to time. On this occasion you could not see a lanthorn for more than five or six yards. Re-examined—The times of the trains have been al tered since the accident, but not immediately. I cannot recollect exactly the time of the change. I was changed shortly after to another station, which is considered an inferior station. It is the duty of the engine -driver, when he sees a signal which indicates caution or danger, in the first ease to slacken his speed. and in the second to stop altogether and wait for further advice. I dis patched men down the line with the signals. By Lord CAMPBELL—The engine-driver of the En field express was on his engine, close by when the Hertford train departed. The engine-driver's attention was called to the fact that the Hertford train was behind its time. William Wills, examined—l was a porter at the Strat ford station. It was very foggy there on the night in question. The Stratford junction is about 150 yards from the Stratford station. There was no telegraphic commu nication between them, and there is none now. I re member the Hertford train coming at about five o'clock. It was due at 4.41. I cannot say at what tine the En field express train was due. No fog-signals had been put down between the Stratford junction and the Strat ford station. The Enfield train seemed to be coming on fast. I and another servant went to the end of the plat form, and tried to stop the train by shouting. The train did not appear to slacken speed. It seemed to be going about 12 or 14 miles an hoar when it pitched into the train. It drove it the length of three or four carriages. It broke the carriage in which Mr. and Mrs. Head were. The ends were smashed. The middle compartment was not so much injured. Tho train ought not to go more than five miles an hour over the junction point. The Hertford train had been about three minutes at the station. The passengers were all out, and the train was just going on. Cross-examined—The place where the fog-signals would be placed would be on the other side of the junc tion. Signalmen would be between. There were people on both ends. Mr. Richardson was immediately on the platform. Every care and attention that could be paid was paid to the persons injured. The fog continued till about twelve o'clock. The carriages were cleared away as quickly as possible. We sent Mr. and Mrs. Head on to Broxbourne as speedily as we could. Some people were more injured than they were. Re-examined—l don't know whether Mr. and Mrs. Head were told that they must stop at the Water-lane station. I don't know when they were forwarded. By a Juror—The train usually passes the station at twelve milers an hour. After passing the junction they put on their steam. John Murray examined —I was station-master at Bow when the accident happened. I recollect the Brentwood train coming to Bow. I can't recollect the time, but it was too late. While there the Hertford train came up. It gave the Brentwood train a slight shock. There was a fog-signal laid down as a caution. Two were not laid down, because the fog•man was out of signals. lie might hold up a flag, but it could not be seen at any distance. The Hertford train was detained five or six minutes. I sent a man back immediately to stop the Enfield express I believe the man lett one signal on the rail. I observed, or at least heard, the Enfield express coming. It did not stop. It passed Bow at seven or eight miles an hour, and then appeared to put the steam on. It was behind its time when it passed. I cannot say whether the Norwich express was then due. The Bow station is about a mile and a quarter from the Stratford junction. Alter the accident there was an al teration in the trains. I got two dozen EL ore fog-signals that night. It may have been two hours after the acci dent. I had not heard of the accident then. I did no thing to stop the Norwich express. Cross-examined—l had a large quantity of fog-signals that day on account of the fog. Theman who had used up his fog-signals came to me for some of mine. I had a greater supply of men in consequence of the fog. Re-examined—When my fog-signals were gone I bor rowed of the drivers and guards. Benjamin Richardson examined—l am station-master to the Stratford station. I remember the Hertford train coming up. I was attending to a female passenger who had fainted in consequence of the collision at Bow. I was pro vided with fog-signals. I believe none were put down be tween the junction and station. The train came on at fastish speed. I ron over as quickly as I could. The last carriage was second-class, the next was a first•claas carriage, in which Mr. and Mrs. Head were. Both of them were carried out. They were suffering very greatly; but I bad not much opportunity of attending to them, as my attention was otherwise occupied. I promised that they should be taken to Broxbourn as soon as possi ble, and gave instruction to that effect. I assisted in removing Mr. and Mrs. Head from the carriage. Mr. Head could not walk. He seemed shocked. Mrs. Head was carried. They remained in the station until medical aid arrived, for about an hour or more. Ile wished to be taken to Broxbourne, where he resided. At that time there was no telegraphic communication with Lon don. Since that, ono has been made. The trains were not altered for some time, about three months. Now, the Hertford train starts at '2O minutes past 4, and the Brentwood train at a quarter to 5 o'clock. Cross-examined—We are obliged to have a good many trains following one another rapidly. I sent out a man expressly beyond the junction with fog-signals. I believe there were one or two extra hands at the sta tion in consequence of the fog. We got medical men almost immediately. We got every one we could get. Re-examined—The Enfield train ought to have stopped between the junction and the station. The fog-signal was put down, but I cannot say it was attended to. Charles Foster examined—l was a porter at the Water lane station on the night of the accident. That station is six miles from the Stratford station, about 60 yards before the line turns off to Enfield. Mr. and Mrs. Head were in a carriage in the Enfield train. _ The carriage in which they were was taken off, and pushed by hand on to the Water-lane siding. The train then proceeded to Enfield, which is three miles and a half distant. The engine returned as soon as it had conveyed the train. It remained at Water-lane until the down train came. Mr. and Mrs. Head remained in the carriage an hour or an hour and a half, till they were taken on by the half past seven o'clock train from London. That was n slow train, and usually arrived at Water-lane station at four minutes past eight. It was later than usual that night. It was foggy and frosty that night. The engine which remained was idle till the slow train came. Cross-examined it remained for the down train for Broxbourne. George Griffiths examined—l was a porter at the Broxbourne station on the day of the accident. The train arrived at 25 minutes past eight with Mr. and Mrs. Head. They appeared to be suffering from an accident. I carried Mrs. Head to a carriage —a fly—and accom panied them to Hoddesdon, which is about a mile and , 1 1 half distant. I carried them b o th u p s t a i r s. Mr. li c " is of the firm of Charrington and Head, the brewers in the Mile-end-road. Cross-examined—l took them in the best conveyance I had, and took the best care of them I n" ld e ' al man Thomas Ansell examined—l am a meth the e .at Bow. I went to the station at Stratford on They much bothof i t h h that slid Iu vening of the accident. The plaintiffs bad ,r left, were " them at Hoddesdon the same nig" h s o mY w much to the cold. very exhausted state. I can n ry: a ld have a d effect. Mr. downward. " e I eg " n o th lu has k wasT he hewxtphogsutroe the tto accidentcol d concludedan to there l Head was much bruised. t{ very much from the was no fracture, a, Afr. head told me ho walked from the station to the carriage. I applied warm fomenta tions and leeches. I continued to attend him more or less for three weeks. Ho was in bed during the whole o f that time. I then left him, still in bed, to the charge of Mr. Locke, of Hoddesdon. It was impossible for him during three weeks to get out of bed. Ho suffered intense pain upon the slightest attempt to move. lTever might have ensued. If there had been an actual fracture, it would have been infinitely less p4inful. Mrs. Head's system had sustained a very great shock. Tho injuries of both the parties were much the same. i Mrs. Head's legs were also much swelled. Mr, Head COLLECTION OF FINES (IRELAND) BILL. The House went into Committee on this Bill. Mr. Sergeant MURPHY reminded the Government of the pledge given that no Irish Bill should be brought on at so late an hour. Colonel DUNNE also protested against proceeding with the Bill. Sir W. SOMERVILLE denied that any such pledge had been given, but under the circumstances would not press the Bill. The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and ob tained leave to sit again. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Mr. STAFFORD moved—" That when this House meets at twelve o'clock on any day except Wednesday or Saturday, if the business has been disposed of before three o'clock, or at three o'clock precisely, notwith standing that there may be business under discussion, Mr. Speaker do leave the ,chair without putting any question; and that the House do resume its sittings at five o'clock." Mr. BROTHERTON opposed the motion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER also op posed it, on the ground that the adoption of any rigid rule on the subject, especially at so advanced a period of the session, would greatly obstruct the progress:Of public business. The motion was then withdrawn. Tho other business was then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a few minutes past One o'clock. Mr. Peto paired off with Mr. Aldorman Thompson, on Lord Naas's motion. Mr. Baldock paired off in favour of Lord Naas's Spirit Bill, with Colonel Anson, against. 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In cases of sun-burn or stings of insects, its virtues are universally acknowledged. Sold by A. Rowland and Sons, 20, Hatton-garden, and by Chemists and Perfumers. - - - [ADVERTISEMENT.] —Another Extraordinary Cure of a Wound in the Leg by Holloway's Ointment and Pills.— Andrew Milton, a hostler, residing at Burton, about two years ago bruised his shin, and, being of a full habit of body, a severe inflammation ensued, which defied every effort to subdue ; afterwards an obstinate wound formed, and notwithstanding various treatments it would not heal, and his leg became so bad that his surgeon urged him to have it amputated; but, not wishing to lose his limb before giving Holloway's medicine a trial, he commenced, and he has reason to be grateful that he did' for by their use he has effected a sound and perfect cure.— Sold by all Druggists and at Professor flolloway s Establish lishment, '244, Strand, London. REPRESENTATION OF KNARESBOROUGH.--Mr. W. 11. Watson, Q. C., and Mr. T. Collins, jun., the two candi dates who have announced their intention of soliciting the suffrages of the electors (the former on Liberal, and the latter on Conservative and Protectionist principles), have been actively engaged during the week in canvassing the borough. Mr. Watson, on Monday evening, addressed the electors from the Elephant and Castle Inn. Mr. Collins, the Conservative candidate, addressed the electors from the Crown Inn, on Tuesday evening. Th e nomin ation takes place on Saturday and the polling on Monday. A letter from Clonmel to Mullinhahone, a distance of twelve miles, now takes two days to reach its destination —all under the improved system of railroads and steam Dublin Zvening R ~ ~ had an abrasure on his leg, which afterwards sloughed and gave him a great deal of suffering. Mrs. Head had inflammation of the periosteum, which con tinced for some time. It might have been attended with peril. Mrs. Head also kept her bed, and endured much suffering. She had not recovered when I left off attending her. I have seen them both several times since. Mr. Head is now recovered. A month after I ceased attending Mr. Head he was still lame with a contracted leg. I saw Mrs. Head about three weeks ago. She has in a great measure recovered, but I don't think entirely. She has general debility, and cannot walk to the same extent as before. At the latter end of March she was unable to walk without support. Cross-examined— The legs might have been broken, but were not. Fever might have ensued, but did not. I did not meet Mr. Bransby Cooper at Mr. Head's. / knew he went there. I knew ho had given a favourable opinion of the parties. He was sent down by the com pany. _ _ _ - Mr. Locke examined—l am a surgeon at Hoddesdon. I attended the plaintiffs with the last witness. They were not able to move to have the bed made for about a fortnight. At the end:of three weeks they were wheeled into tne drawing-rcora. Neither of them could put a loot to the ground for a month. Mr. Head was obliged to ue crutches. He was not able to attend to business till the middle of February, He has since been bodily ill from the effects of the eh( ek. Mrs. Head is suffering at the present time from varicose veins. That may re main for :omd time, By Lo:d CAMPBELL—I received my professional re monerstion from Mr. Head. Mr. Pertridge examined—l am clerk in the brewery at Mile-end. Before the accident the plaintiff attended to the brewery daily. He was the acting partner. was away about seven weeks. Mr. CROWDER then addressed the jury for the defend antS, and denied that the company's, servants had been guilty of any neglect of Mr. and Mrs. Head. Every possible attention had been shown to them, and, so far w M a r s . Brans the gges o t o i o p n e r ,from m most n e g m t i r n u e e n , t i s t u w rg a e s o p n r , o w ve a d s s t h e n a t t down by the company to Hoddesdon, where he held e, consultation with the plaintiffs' medical attendant, the that he gave a favourable account of their condition. rr r esult of which was _ he main question was, whether the accident was occasioned by the negligence of the defend ants' servants. The Learned Counsel then contended that every thing possible had been done by the com pany's servants in order to avoid the accident. This was to be attributed entirely to the fog which came on, and rendered the accident unavoidable. If, however, the jury should be of a contrary opinion, he was sure they would think that the case was not one in which the com pany should be punished by being called upon to pay heavy damages. Lord CAMPBELL, in summing up the evidence to the jury, said they were now trying two actions, the one brought by Mr. Head to recover compensation for the injuries which he had sus t a i ne d, and the expense to which he had been put in curing hinigelf and wife of the injuries which they had sustained by reason of the negligence of the company's servants ; and: the second sought by Mr. Head and: his wife to re cover compensation for the personal injury which Mrs. Head suffered. It had been agreed that the same jury should dispose of both actions at the same time. If there had been no negligence on the part of the company they would be entitled to a verdict, but if there had been such negligence he (Lord Campbell) thought'the plaintiff had done well (though he was, as had been described, a rich brewer) in bringing this action against the company to recover compensation. He (Lord Campbell) was happy to say that in this case there was no personal miscon duct on the part of the servants of the company. They appeared to be decent men, and had given their evidence very well and very creditably. But it would be for the jury to say whether they had any doubt that the com pany had been guilty of negligence. In the first place they must consider whether the general arrangements which had been made by the company for the starting of the trains did not show negligence on their:part. Ac cording to the time-bill the Brentwood train, which was to stop at Mile-end and Bow, started at 4.20. The Hertford train, which was to stop at Stratford, and not at Mile-end and Bow, started at 4.30. Then came the express train which was to follow the trains which were to stop at Mile-end, Bow, and Stratford; and that train started at 4.45. It was to start only a quarter of an hour after the train which was to stop at Stratford. The question for the jury to consider was, whether this was a reasonable arrangement for all weathers; it being admitted that no alteration could be made to suit a change in the weather, such as the coming on of a fog, to which the Eastern Counties line was peculiarly liable. Even the times indicated by the time-bill did not appear to have been kept, for the trains were behind their time; and, instead of their being a distance of a quarter of an hour between the Hertford train and the express which followed, there were but twelve minutes. The question for the jury then, was, whether it was a pru dent thing for the station-master to start the express train after ho had only twelve minutes before started the Hertford train, which was to stop at Stratford. If the jury should be of opinion that there had been no im prudence, but that the accident was inevitable, and arose from the state of the weather, they would give a verdict for the defendants. Another point for the consideration of the jury was the want of detonating balls which were used as fog-signals. The person at the Bow-station who had charge of the signals found that his stock was ex hausted. He had but one. The consequence was that the Enfield train, not being aware of the danger, came up to the Stratford station where the Hertford train still was. It was detained there for a few minutes in conse quence of there having previously been a collision at the Bow station between the Brenta end train and the Hert- ford train. Here, again, if the jury should be cf opinion that there had been negligence in ti,e:in arrangements, they wouli find a verdict fa. the plaintiffs. if they should come to consider the amount of damages to which the plaintiffs were entitled, the jury would bear in mind that thoze sufferings had been ♦ery great. Lit the jury think of Mr. and Mrs. Head's situa tion, waiting for an hour or an hour and a half in the carriage at the Water-lane station, Is ithout any person to assist them, till the train came from London to take them on. They had also been detained in bed for above a mouth. The jury would not give the plaintiff greater damages became his leg had not been broken, on the principle that "my wound is great because it is so small," but such a fair amount as would be a reason able compensation for his injury. The company had acted most properly in employing that most eminent surgeon, Mr. Branshy Cooper, upon whose professional character his Lordship pronounced a warm eulogium, founded upon a personal knowledge of many years. It was impossible that the company could have acted more properly than they did, sending Mr. Cooper down to Eloddesdon to render the plaintiffs any assistance which might be needed, and which his skill might en able him to afford. If the jury should find a verdict for the plaintiff, they would give him reasonable damages for his personal sufferings, as well as for the expenses which ho had incurred, and for his loss of time. They would also give damages to Mrs. Head, as a compensa tion for her personal sufferings. The jury retired for a short time. and, on their return into court, gave verdicts for the plaintiffs, with 1,000/. damages. The jury were again sworn, and assessed the damages in each action at 5001. COURT CIRCULAR. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent visited the Queen yesterday et Buckingham Palace. His Royal Highness Prince Albert, attended by Lieut.- Colonel Francis Hugh Seymour, was present at a Field Day of the Troops in Hyde-park yesterday forenoon. His Royal Highness the Prince Albert, attended by Lieut.-Colonel the Hon. C. B. Phipps, presided at the Council for the mansgement of the Duchy of Cornwall, the the eE clEu hruereY'r at the Duchy-office, Somerset House, yesterday. Their Royal Highnesses Prince Alfred, the Princess Royal, and the Princess Alice, took an airing in an open carriage and four yesterday. The Queen went in State last evening to honour the Royal Italian Opera House with her presence. The Royal Procession quitted Buckingham Palace at seven minutes to eight o'clock in the following order: — The first carriage conveying three Gentlemen Ushers, Sir Frederic Smith, Mr. Arthur Blackwood, and Col- Diggle; and the Exon of the Yeoman Guard in Wait" ing, Captain Phibbs. The second carriage conveying the Silver Stick i , r . t . Waiting, Colonel M'Douall; the Field Officer in Pages of Colonel Hay (Coldstream Guards); and the il% of Honour in Waiting, Mr. George Grant Gordon, and the Hon. W. F. Forbes. 'co i gn oeymour ; ing, T li L e o third r d A . Charles carriage Fitzroy; conveying Yn; a inaW r k i:W: M k taitni a ht r ge l to the Prince, Lieut.-Colonel Francis the Groom in 'Waiting, Sir Edward Colonel Wylde. Groom in Waiting to the Prince, 1 " e h Bedchamber W O .. The fourth carriage conveying . . the Treasurer of the sisal, Lord Alfred Paget;.,z man in Waiting, Viscountess LorDes, Bowatereri Household, Lord Marcus WI . conveying two Maids of Honour, The fifth carriage lion. the rao the Hon. Eleanor Stanley and to the n. Caroline Caven dish; the Lord in Waiting _ . Prince, Viscount Clif amber am Lard Edward Howard. den; and the Vice -Cb 1 , conveying The sixth carriagethe Maids of Honour in melte Murray a nd the II Lu cy Kerr; Waiting, tho " :i n i . l Wal tin Kerr; the Abe -g, Lord Elphinstone; and the Captain of t he Yeoman Guard, the Marquis of Donegal. The s eventh carriage: conveying a Lady of the Bed_ chamber, th Marchioness of Douro; the Gold Stick in waiting, Viscount Combermere; and the Groom of the Stele to the Prince, the Marquis of Abercorn. The eighth carriage, conveying a Lady ;of the Bed chamber, the Countess of Charlemont; and the Lord Steward, the Marquis of Westminster. The ninth carriage conveying her Majesty the Queen; his Royal Highness the Prince Albert; the Lady of the Bedchamber in Waiting, the Countess of Gainsborough; and the Master of the Horse, the Duke of Norfolk. A detachment of the Lite Guards escorted her Ma jesty from the Palace to the Theatie. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, attended by Lady Augusta Bruce, Sir George Couper, and Lord James Murray, honoured the Royal Italian Opera House with her presence last evening. A deputation of seamen, consisting of Messrs. Smith, Chalk, Oliver, Fraser, and Holman, headed by Mr. Clay, M.P., and Mr. Hudson, M.P., waited upon the Right Hon. Henry Labouchere, on Wednesday, at the Board of Trade. Mr. Falconer had an interview with Earl Grey yes terday at the Colonial-office. Mr. James Haywood had, also an interview with the Noble Earl. Sir Hamilton Seymour had 1 an interview yesterday with Lord John Russell, at his official residence i n Downing-street. Mr. George Hamilton. M.P., and Mr- Maeartney had an interview with the Commissioners of R • ailway s yes terday, at their office in the Board of Trade. Victoria s treet, the new and magnificent communi cation between Buckingham Palace and the Houses of Parlia ent, will he opened for public talic on the let of August. t pO i-~"` --'5