The Sun. — London, England, 1845-04-05 00:00:00

Noble Lora wiFhocl for any p-rtien:ar pines which Pritild 119 produced wi:hoie :‘, •tat• the,, 'Pr. MILNER 1; 111 . •-• •N eerhed to al; a qmstien of the Right Hen. Baronet on ter ..uhjert of the pros - .et state of our relations with the Br. - z•le It wai• sv.el eeewn that we Th-1 had a enremercial treaty' with that coeette ,;Mach had e expired in the inrit e b t ee,,e e eee e e list: ' et l e r the 1 11 0 v , sions of its ',tette nett subjetes reeelieg in the "'ls 'vete ebtirl: ei certain privileges, which were nut pos ?s` cl b3 . Brazilians, le reference to the dispesal of th••ir " 61141 ; by will, the i'nelish Corisul taeieg care that in the reeitt of the death of a British sehject. his prop••rtv were to his h e'rF• That treaty expire in November ; anal it. ev.s the Reneral opinion that the priviges wt, ch had been e .jejed by British subjects hat expired with it. .% c:se had tecerely a isen in which consider • hie alarm had , eeti fee as souse disp••sel Of the property et 13 ilish sot jects djiee in the Brazils, or dyiee intlti. country. and leavine er• - pertj in the Bielz:ls. Hr wished to ask the flight Hon. Baronet first, if the Give-re - 11,e had taken the matter into their conside , al 'on ? Secondly. if sir. Hamilton had made any eon munieateen to them on this sue bull? And thirdly, if he coma old out any bops that the af hprivileees wonli l be • onfitetee to Rtetise subjeet : s in ;be Il raells, whi c h the 3 h a d e e j +yet: previ .oily t' the exteration of the treaty ? ' l r• Be PEEL replied th t it often hapeened teat the mer chants of Liverpool and Manchester received earlier in;elligence Of Matters of this nature than was received by the Eareien °ffice• The Government had not received any account of the teettlaction to which the Hon. Gentleman referred, lett he Would make this general statement that by the treaty which ee- Tered in 1844, on tee death (if any subject iv the Brazils the administration of his effects develved upon the British Consul and not upon the Brazilian authorities. Her Nla ife;ty's Governm en t h a d ma d e a proposition to the 13rdzilian G overnment on the subject of the treaty, and that stipulation *as a part of the proposal which they had made. THE ASHBURTON TREATY. Lord PALMERSTON did not think that the answer Which the Right Honourable Baronet had given to his Honourable Friend the Member for Montrose on the sub ject of the extracts from the dispatches which had been read lay Lord Ashburton in another place was altogether M ltufactory. He did not know exactly the extracts to which Its Hon. Friend had alluded, tint, from what he had beard, he Understood that Lord Ashburton had read elsewhere e _ sam e extracts from. certain dispatches, for the pur v4e of showing that some statement that had been shade by a member of that House (the House of Commons) was erroneous. Now he would assume that to be the fact— Mear, hear," from Mr. Hume)—and he would ask where did Lord Ashburton get those dispatches ?—( Cheers.) He must have procured them either as a negotiator, in which ease they would be his own dispatches, either written by him or sent t o him, or they were dispatches which had been ob tained from the Foreign-office, or they were dispatches Which had been laid before Parliament. 11 they Were dispatches which had been laid before Parliament, had n o thi ng more to say. The Noble Lord h a d a per f ect right to use them. If the dispatches were his awn—were dis atches which had come into his power as a negotiator, having h ad eith er wr i tten b y hi m or to hi m— if t h ese di spatc h es uat'l been furnished to him by the Government, then he would 11l that, in the first case, he had nu right to read his own dis- Patches without having obtained permision of the Government, and if ho had obtained that permission, or if they herl been furnished to him by the Foreign-office, then it was the inva -I),lable practice of Pa r li amen t t o l a y th os e dispatches on the ta *, in order th a t P ar li ament m i g h t k now w h at th e y con t a i n ed, ill of being only made acquainted merely with extracts read in Parlia ment . Th e Ri g h t H on . Baronet would see that was not sufficient to say that the diseatches merely related tee • question which had been settled. The question was not in reality as to anything t h at h a d passe d le in the negotiations •t wet n , nUnited 'states and this country, hut it was to see if err in state men t s ma t e in that H ouse b y persons f ormer l y hold eege e ffiejal situations, were or were not erroneous, whether o r n ot the'e statements had been far the ;.urp -es of deceiving. Ile wish d t i i ° ask anoth er questiee. O n t h e pith July, he moved 8, r eturn of the number of tiegroes landed in each year, from 181 5 'downwa r ds, on the coast of America. That return t he Rieht Hon. Bareret acceded to with the greatest rea diness. and he (Lord Palmerston) eou'd only wish that tire iosapidi re adiness had been =hewn in furnishing it. The Riche • Baronet had ecild him that he ha:! ,ir•eented it, het this t "'" not hi s ( L ord Palmersten's) return. but same other. Ile .I.2;‘lied the Ri g h t Hen. Baronst would make itiquiries into the - eeiect. and see that the returns were presented. PEEL •'d •t detsfar what dispatches the se en. i • co nett un AerP alember for Montrose had alluded to. Of course. it •5 necessary, any dist•atches which had been produced , the other tleu-e• Parlisvrent might be produced the b_ OU.P commons, (se we understood Right HowB a r°net, "buraernnet, but f rom t h e l ow retie of voice ys h i tch he spoke, and iee whit'.. prevailed in the House, e creed ••eaTeely Leer net) rall!_r. UTNE said he had alluded to dispatches which hal eferred t o b y a N o bl e L or d i n anot h er place, which Ind e" t been laid before thet House. te 'S e ,ir B. PEEL, with reseect to the return allud•-d to by e `le i`trible L or d, cou ld oi ly saj th at was very difficult to Rot, P s 'uch returns, but he would use every exertion to have this (I le Made, BUENOS AYRES. EWART wished to put a question to the Right Hon. M B aronet v r i t h re f erence to t h e a il a i rs o f B uenos Ayres and onte Video. His only object in doing so was the protection h,Of British property and the resto ation of commerce. Since e had last mentioned this subjoct he had understood, from l kOthority which he could not doubt, that the blockade had b_e %vac a general blockade of the town of Mmte Video. He also understood that the commerce on the river Plate had been pro. hibited. He had also understood that duty had been levied on foreign ships, and that an edict had been issued by the Go tornment of Buenos Ayres for suppressing the English, Scotch, 14 u1 Irish sc h oo l s i n th a t t o wn. The question he had to ask * tstfirst, whether such measures had been taken as would en. s ere the safety of British property ; and, secondly, whether It 2til pleasures were in progress as would restore the commerce of =t part of South America? L e t' . ft • PEEL could only make the same statement which made sometime since, namely, that steps had been ._`en by the British Minister in conjunction with the repre lotative of the Court of France to put an end to the unhappy heb. te ot things to which the Hon. Gentleman referred. With thaV e e t to the protection of British commerce he could state of t r 7 TPle means existed in the river Plate for the protection thellllll property and British subjects. There were six the Gofish vrar in the river Plate. With respect to the schools •ertnent had received no communication. The Bri ed, and .cotch subjects had a right to private schools for the Wvand of their children and any edict prohibiting their aate schno's would b et by an effectual remonstrance thle'le,•lo.inc,tut,•naenanforeeememnt toof w t a h s atedict. The last thing B referred important , he said that 4a l : Government of A s claimed the allegiance of ,British subjects. A uen foreigner born within the dominions ." Majesty was a re British-born subject—if a subject of her 'lefty w as b orn mit Buenosof j z e n tt s t, ..e d e e b r e o d nia atmiti n a o n s Ayres, then he could not be sub'ect. But if the son of a British sib- A j res then they had no right to object . cont end aP ei P t. lie4 W ti t° f that y principle for which they themselves Buenos" lle Ito was entitled to the citiz. nship of Ayres he `las liable to the burthens of the State. Sir R. MAYI,IOO l'H. (Sir reef p,, `..LIS wished to rsk the Right Hon. Baronet Bill for itl ettin g to the Maynoothgrant at the time now appointed • Sir th e , • PEEL said it was a matter of great tmport , nce that b e i t :e of the Howe e.huld be taken on s impotant a 'V, but it was his desi o re that it should be o read a r second on Friday next. THE OREGON TERRITORY QUESTION. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he had a question of eery great importance to bring before the eonsieeratien of the- Rouse, and he hoped he wood, th refore, be t ardoned if he trespassed Upon it for a shoe time. to call in question eith- T It was not his int en tio n the general foreign p o li c y o f her Ma jesty's present Government, er of that which they hats given isotice with respec t to the particular question I , ow before the House ; but what he intended to d,r was, to bring before Oil' Legislature the question of the Government of the United States in reference to the Oregon territory. His Hon. ann Learned Friend the Member for Bath had inten•!e 1 to hat — Put the same question to the Government, but- he eid not (to say expecting to tare had a sa•isfactery expianatto., from the " Gov ernment ; and ho (L ord John Rulieli) would "ave Pursued the same course had it not been f•tr the i naugural addl.- sees of the two P. et•idtmti of the titat , s, by which it appyared it we., intended to take ~ un i ted qUesti on out o f th e (military cours e of dii la-Eerie que-- d., "aav, and tkerefore it demanded more than ordinary consi a-Zilatift from that House. Had this question been left be b-"'ea the_ Executive Goren merit of this cour,try, and the ":•jecutive. Government. of the United States, as ee tu t usual c • r s , whateter might have been the r e sult he Ltauld have ')" waited e in deuce, until the ..lo se of the roceed t`at bettre he should have interfered —( Hear, hear.) But if ';' e did not very much nestake. he believed he would be war litte la saying, that the P• . esident ef the Unitid States eour se entlre y new . — (le -4 th e present instance, ad•ipted a ear)„4 course which , if not met by something ileeisi,e 0 0 ,. 11 d t i „ h e Part of this country. n y threateeed to overthrow all the ---`arY inter cn t ur is se e w o h u i• h r- * should exist between the Execu tive Gover cisio n is amours of the two nations, and leave the de to be d ecid ea d estions one e reat national importance hand by popular a - the of dress" frm a the Government to the people art the other. by a course which would put an end to all e pe t a h ee e , I ", i d lity, and that national dignity which charact t eri t s he d dist%''"g intercourse, and which was so necessary t o hts due eoon. e r , discharge of that duty to the rights of the People 4 .,""ieh the British Government had taken under their e w ll--- -( Hear, hear.) He should here mention--though he reillottltl_ionly do so as a passing allusion—that this message 2tea et that vast territory of the United States, the annexe ,h, af Texas, and of which he would not state the boundary, :": m.lalreits remained still undefined ; bat he would merely 13 "‘Y that that east extent of territory was a most fruitful soil, s u r j . ;! u tine cotton and other articles used in this country, and xt Pirated by slave labour, and extending, as it would no doubt e thi s elk l , aver that portion of the country. He had alluded to f ,h owi part . of the question only for the purpose o ti e ng that the present conduct of the Execu i.! Government of the United States tended entirely to tillai.Vin territorial aggrandisensent.—( Hear, hear.) He said flo es ue cause it was in direct contradiction of the political declare 14i Made by_ Mr. Webster, who had declared that the true . o , 7 of the United States was to seek for increased strength, „ e ;am territorial aggrandisement, but by the cultivation of 7,', esources which lay within their own immense territory. 17,„,_ b el_ief was that, in declaring that Opinion, Mr. Web ster . of aid coepanot only what was most likely to preserve relations tty with foreign powers, but that which was most • he ar ° N rl naLle to the interests of his country.— (Hear, s i n ••1 But be that as it might, such a curse had ot:e.been departed from. In the next sentence of the message, kr : d eclaring his intention, by all appropriate means, to con- Dr _ laate at the earliest period the annexation of Texas, the ~_!'ldent goes on with the following remarkable paragraph, ~Teli I will read throughout. The paragraph is as ohows : ti_lvat).r will .it becom e less my duty to assert and tr , taintain, 111_11 eoustitutional means, the right of the United States to t i r_ t s Portion of our territory which lies Le3ond the rocky muun. que u st . i Our title tu the coutrry of the Oregon is el. er and ue htheatrti°tlfleatbjiye ; and already our people are preparing to perfect occupying it with th it wives and children.—( th e a • s About Clgiity years AtTO OW' peopl e were confined on ~._ ,r't by the ridge of the Alleghenies. Within that period „,.7,!hiti the lifetime, I might say, o• some t•f my hear. re—cur tea)'qle increasing to many millions. have flied the east.rii of the Alissi:sippi—adventurothis ascended the Alts , ou-i Llei:s. head springs, ants are alreactv et,gpged in estabhsbmg the ",,,, ,,e ill . ng s of our Government in the valleys the rivers of w .ich !1,, t. itr.to the Pacific. The world beho•ds tke p•atteful triumeli , !h e r industry of oar emigrants. It is our duty to piotect them il' a la_ srever they may h.. upon our s oil.isdietion of our t _ w _ t el the bent -fit cf ~ur public institutions, should be ex -17. tad o(ver them In the distant regions which they pace ses Iv t, e f . rr their homes. The increasing facilityof ' in-ereour,e part easily brieg the States, of which the formation in that , 'LIO oar terri,o r y e.tinot he long delayed, within the sphere .. ;Lai!r fedefati ve union. In the meantime the obligations int i' by treatie s or conventional armngemseats should be th a t Y s te *Peated '' Here teas, in the first place. in as4rtion 010. trio title of the United States was clear and unquesttona 11l tin 11,Xt Vale, that the title. 7u perfrecvd by till ir *LIE SUN, LONDON, SATITIIDAY EVENING, APRIL 5, 1845. Teethe countries, he would, in getter/ill tents; alludo to the negotiations which had taken place Rtweeri thettt. Att inea r taut negotiation was ;:aric4l en in London between Mr. R " h t on I he part, of :he United Sip et, and Mr. II uskisson and L. s'=etratrord Canning, on the part of England. Certaid Itrof. gets were made by Mr. : Rush, amone , er others that no colonisaiinn M should teke pace on the American boundary. The claim was at one- denied by Air. Canning. The claim to the Oregon ter ri: . ity was also peremptorily denied. bat at the same tmis Mr. Canning dal authorise Mr. fluskisson to propose a cern promise on this subject. ;rad the line which had been agree d On rUnetug alone the .39th perall, I ef north latitude to the Rocky A - am:anis should be earl ied on beyond the Rocky Mom:tales tea brai.eli of the Cirlumbian rives called the Magilieuddy River, thence to the main stream of the Columbia, and this was to be the boundary line between the two nations. Mr. Canning would not give up the settlement north of the Co lumbia, because he w islied to litter , the full advantage of the ha: hoar. iii. (L-rd J. Russell) thought this was a very equitable proposal on the part of Mr. Canning, The proposal was rejected by the American Government, and it became necessary to renew the convene ion, by which it was agreed thet Great Britain and the UuLed States should have the power io occupy and settle, without claiming sovereignty over any part of that territory. Such was the state of the que.tion down to the present time, but new events had now arisen, The President. of the United States had made a peremptory claim to the whole of that territory, and, in an unusual manner, had called upon the people of the United States, with their wives and children, to occupy it. The territory was becoming of more importance every year. After this ;ter-merit of the President it was impossiele that the Government would not endeavour to have a speedy solution of this difficulty. If they would feel it impossible that the present unsettled state of re lations between the two countries should be allowed to con tinue without the danger that the people of the United States, acting on the suggestion of the President, would endeavour to disturb British subjects in the enjoyment of their rights, which they held by treaty,:and thus promote a state of relation dangerous to the price of both countries.—( Hear.) He would say, with all moderation, that this country should not abate anything of their just pretensions.—(Hear.) He would not pretend to define what course the Government ought to take, nor where they ought to draw the line, but he would say that they would not propose anything less than Mr. Canning had done with any regard to the interests of Great Britain.— ( Hear, hear.) He might be told that the Oregon territory claimed by the United States was not of much value, and that it did not matter much who possessed it. " Yes, Sir," (said the Noble Lord), "hut I say it does matter."—(Hear, hear.) A large territory cannot be a matter of indifference, particularly where our title is better and jester, nor should it be yielded under such eircunsstances to what he might call the blustering announcement—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear," in which Sir R. Peel loudly joined)—ou the part of the President of the United States. A communication with China and East India, and the whole of South America, could not be a matter of indifference. The surrender of such advantages to a foreign power could not, he repeated, be regarded with indifference. It was not a matter of indifference that the tone and character of England should be lowered in a transaction carried on with the United States. He thanked the House for the patience with which they had listened to him whilst he made this imperfect statement.— (Cheers, in which Sir Robert Peel joined.) He should not have interfered if the matter had been left to sliplornatic arrangement between Lard Aberdeen and Mr. Buchanan ; but he felt that a Minister, from his position, could not well introduce the matter; and so he thought it right to tell the House and the people of this country what were their rights.—( Cheers.) With this statement he would leave the matter in the h of the Government of the country, and he would not express the smallest doubt that in all their proceed ings they would duly consult the interests of the country and the honour of the Crown, wiiose Ministers they were.—(Loud and prolonged cheering Reim both sides of the House.) - - which the late President declined to produce these papers. On the 4th of March, lells, the present President made his inaugural address—the address which has caused the observa tions that have fallen from the Noble Lord. I think it right to state to the House that since that inaugural address was de • own Minister in ses trier I !ve have had no communication whatever from our the United States. He wrote a letter trans mitting that address. Lot ne d the . yr , esent Presi servations upon it. The Government se c s n ' ot time to make any ob emetic come dent has been appointed very recently, and no clip.— munications, that we are aware of, have taken place teteZn our Minister and that Government; they may have since taken place, but at the date of the last accounts the installation of the President's Government was so recent that no diplomatiss communications with it had been entered into. I think it highly probable that Mr. Pakenham would have continued with the present Government of the United States the pending ne gotiation, but since the resigeation of Mr. Calhoun, arid the appointnont of Mr. Buchanan. we have had no intelligence of the state of that negotiation. All we know of the subject is the statement contained in the American President's address. I have said it is highly probable that these negotiations have been renewed by Mr. Pakenham with the Government that has been appointed, and at no distant period the result of that renewal must be known. Sir, I consider it my duty, not withstanding the language of the President of the United States, not to despair of a favourable result to that negotiation.— (Cheers.) But in case there should be an unfavourable issue, and by an unfavourable issue I mean only if the proposal we make should be rejected, and no counter pi oposal likely to lead to an amicable adjustment should he made by the United States —should this be the issue of the negotiations, then her Ma jesty's Government will not object to lay on the table of the House all the communications that have taken place on the subject.—(Loud cheers.) I trust, however, that this may not be necessary ; I still hope an amicable and equitable ad justment of the claims of the two countries may be made, not withstanding the language of the address. I must, however, express my deep regret, that while this negotiation is pending, the chief executive officer of the United States, in a public address, should, contrary to all usage, h a ve referred to any , other contingency than the f r ie n dly and satisfactory termina tion of these differences.—(Cheers.) Such a reference is not likely to lead to that issue which every friend to the con tinuance of amicable relations between the two countries must desire, namely, the equitable adjustment of the differences that have arisen.—( Hear.) I deeply regret, not only the re ference itself, but the tone and temper in which that reference is made.—(Loud cheers.) As the subject has been brought under discussion, and 1 think not improperly, by the Noble Lord, I feel it my imperative duty, on the part of her Majesty's Government, to sate, in language the most temperate, but most decided, that we consider we have rights in respect of the territory of Oregon which arc clear and unquestionable ; that we trust still to effect an amicable adjustment of these claims— that we desire to effect that adjustment—but having exhausted every effort to effect that arrangement, if our rights are in vaded we are resolved, and are prepared, to maintain Chem.— ( Immense cheering from both sides of the House.) That de claration on my part may induce the House, although I believe each individual Member of it has a right to enter into the pre sent discussion, to refrain from raising one, considering that such a discussion in a public assembly, although it may be jus tifiable, may yet have a tendency to prevent that result we must all desire. I confess, therefore, it would be satisfactory to me, if, notwithstanding the provocation to discussion, indi vidual Members of the House will leave this matter Where it is —in the hands of her Maje-ty's Government.—( Cheers. ) Lord J. RUSSELL, after making an explanation concern ing the proposal which was made to Mr. Canning, said that he carefully abstained from making any motion, and, after what the Right Hon. Baronet had said, he would not make any motion of the kind until the Government were prepared to answer t. ht Honourable Lord PALMERSTON agreed with the Rig Baronet that it was not expedient for Hon. Members to press this matter any farther. He would take the opportunity of looking to quotations made by a Noble Lord in another place. He found that those quotations were taken from dispatches which he himself had laid upon the table of the House. He should only say that upon the points which had been alluded to, or with regard to the o bjections which might be made with re spect fo the arguments made by him, and which the Noble Lord called the Ashburton recapitulation, nothing that had been said in that other place could be taken as an answer to those arguments which two years age he took the liberty of making to this House. Objection had been taken to the manner in which he had stated his views on this subject. He trusted that on every occasion in which it was his duty to state his opin'ons on this subject. he had always abstained as much as he could from any personal attack upon anybody. The subject then dropped. POST-OFFICE ESPIONAGE. Mr. WAKLEY (on the Speaker leaving the Chair for going into a Committee of Su pp l y) said that, as there had been a misunsierstanding with reference to the bringing on of his motion—his Hon. and Gallant Colleague was not in his place—he would, if possible, postpone his motion ; but as there would not be a Committee of Supply on Monday even ing, he should now go on with his motion. If the Right Hon. Baronet the secretary for the Home Department would pro duce the warrant moved for, he would be saved the trouble of bringing the matter under the discussion of the House ; but as he refused to consent to do so, he should take the sense of the House upon it. The Hon. Gentleman then moved for a copy of any warrant or warrants sent to the Postmaster- General by any Secretary of State, directing the detaining or opening of any letter or letters to, or written by, Thomas Slingsby Duncombe, Esq. It would be recollected that, im mediately before Easter, be presented petitions to the House from a number of his constituents, praying that the House would institute an inquiry which would satisfy the public at large as to the necessity of opening Mr. Duecombe's letters, that they might know whether he was any longer entitled to represent them. That was the object of his motion. It was considered in that borough that he had been subjected to un just treatment by her Majesty's Government. It would be harassing to go over the details of the matter, but it seemed most extraordinary that his Hon. Colleague, who first brought the subject before the House in reference to Mr. Mazzini's letters, that he who charged the Government in that transac tion should have his own letters opened. He (Mr. Duncombe) made every effort in his power to prevent the effect of those aspersions which might be cast upon him, for he brought it under the consideration of the Hoese frequently, and offered to maintain his charge at the bar of the House, and called for an examination of the parties concerned at the bar of the House. The motion he now made, he believed, would share the same fate as that of his Hon. colleague, but it would only convince him of the unjust treatment which he had re ceived. If his letters were opened, why not state the circum stances under which it was done, in the same way as the facts relative to the opening of Mr. Mazzini's letters were laid before the House ? The Right Hon. Gentleman stated to the House from the communication he received his information with reference to Mr. Mazzini. He stated that the warrant issued by him was dated the Ist of March, 1844, and that he had received a dispatch, stating that the Belgians had re fused to allow 111 r. Mazzini into their country in consequence of disturbances he had raised in France, and said that if any fault was committed it was his fault. Nothing could be more satisfactory than the manner in which he showed that he acted upon the information which he believed to be true. But what was the course pursued by them with respect to his Hon. Colleague? He (Mr. Duncombe) said that his correspondence had been violated in the Post-office, but they got no acknow ledgement from the Government as to whether they were opened or not, and in that refusal the Government were supported by a majority of the House. Had not his Hon. Friend a right to know wh s assailed his character at the Home-office ? He knew not by whom his character had been misrepresented, and he had a right to urge that he had been ill-used by her Majesty's Government. His c instituents did not know what to believe, they had good reason to believe that he had acted as a good representative, but still when they had found that her Majesty's Government had considered it to be their duty to open his letters at the Post-office, they had a rig ht to kno w under what circumstances that had been done. If the facts are stated in one case, why are they not mad e known in the other ? The responsibility r es ts on the majority o f this Hous e , and if they decide, no m a tt er h o w unjustly or in consiste ntly , there is no appeal from that decision. If this warrant were issued and a prosecution instituted in any of the courts of law against one of the servants of the Post-office for having, opered the letters of his Hon. Colleague, that warrant should be produced on the trial, arid the absence of it would defeat the prosecution, or submit the party to the consequences of a conviction for a miAlemeariour ; and what means of escape would they have under the statutes of Anne, or the other Acts, without the production of the warrant, for such a course of procedure ? But he saw clearly that the Goveroment, so Jar from meeeng this question in a fair and open mariner, were fencitee with it in a fashion not at all creditable. Would it not be more creditable on their part, either to prod uce the wet rant at since, or do Clare fra n k l y that no such warrant existed ? ( Hear, hear.) but the Right Honourable Baronet (Sir J. Graham), so far from adopting either of these courses, declines both, and reties entirely on his tyrannical majority. It was not upon an adherence to law, but upon a reliance on force that the Right Hon. Baronet fall beck upon. It was not reason, it was not. justice. How, he would ask, would any Member of the Government like to be so treated? The answer was obvious. A Noble Lord opposite had said that. his (Mr. Wakley's) Hon. Colleague was a degraded person.— (Cries of " No, no," from the Opposition.) Well, then, could it be believed that his Hon. Colleague's letters had been opened without some such alleged cause ?—( Hear, hear. ) But notwithstanding every argument that his Hon. Collea g ue had urged, with the view to elicit an answer, the only ore ever vouchsafed was, " We are determined not to say whether there was any warrant for opening the letters or not."—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Wakley) begged again to repeat that great diqsatisfaction existed out of doors upon this subject, and the feelings of his constituents in particular were most intense, for they could not understand why his Hon. Col league, who had discharged his Parliamentary duties with so much ability and zeal, should be so treated by a majority of that House. The question then narrowed itself into this. Was this warrant to be produced, or was it not? He feared that the latter would be the answer ; for it appeared to him that the Government were as obdurate now as they were in the begin ning cf this discussion. Considering the manner in which his Hon. colleague had dealt with this question from the com mencement, the wound which his feelings had endured, the bold tone in which he had atterneted to vindicate himself, and the whole character of this transaction, he (Mr. Wakley) felt bound to say that but one feeling could exist in the public mind, if this motion should be refused, and that was, that great injustice had been done. He knew there would be a majority against him, but that did not alter the tone of the public mind, and particularly of the constituency of Finsbury, who felt that their representative had been aggrieved, and was entitled to re dress.—( Hear, hear.) It had been said that his Hon. Col league hadbeen engaged in illegalpractices, which had induced the Government tq take this step in his regard ; if so, would it not be but fair to let him know who his calum niators were. The Hon. Member concluded b y p ro p osin g his r esolution. Mr. WILLIAMS said be rose to seco nd the proposition of his it doing he but begged to assure the for a very few mi nu t es . Hon.Friee wouldnd, House that h , He did think that this was a Motion to which no objection could be mad., because g reat r eflections and aspersions had been cast upon the character of Mr. Duncombe, which were most unjust and unjustifiable. He (Mr. Willi ams ) regret t e d that this motion should have been brou ght forward in so thin a House, and therefore he hoped t leit his Hon. Friend would end occupy i n not persevere in it, but if he did he should vote With him. Sir J. GRAHAM said, the Hon. Member who had brought forward this motion had stated in his address that if 'he had consulted hie owti felitigs and judg ment he would not havo brought it forward at all ; and he ( Sir James Graham) believed it was not more painful to the feelings of the Hon. Member than it was to the majority of that House. The Hon• Member had also expressed his regret that his constituents should have required him to adopt this course, but having done so, he had exhausted all his ingenuity, though he had failed to introduce any new topic or argument. The Hon. Member had spoken of ministerial responsibility, as if it was matter of no moment, but he (Sir J. Graham ) begged to say that his feelings wet e n ot so callous ai riot to he painfully alive to this responsibility. The Hon. Member had also spoken of the decisions of that House as tyrannical, but he (Sir James Graham) would ask what in a popular assembly was to decide any question but the majority e—( Hear, hear.) He stated before, when this subject was first discussed, that he did conceive it would be inconsistent with his position as a Minister of the Crown to give an answer either in the affirmative or the negative to this question. But he would say now, and he said then, that he wo u ld p l e d ge himself as a Minister and as a gentleman , that he h a d gi ven the fullest and most ample information before that tribunal, appointed by the Plouce to investigate this question, and the report of that eribunai had been before the House, and rocciud its sanction ass apyrwal t But tits 119 n. Member Wl** that bis sot= league had been spoken of, by a Noble Lord, as a degraded man, by which it appeared quite clear that the Hon. Member thatthat in their h s t a e d r s passed, power from ron l had was not in his pla c e at the time of the alleged charge, for if be had been, he wou!d have found that no such charge had been made. In c ( n e lusi o n, he begged to say that, alter all a ni y he othera:nd e vb never rt motive tboe ebeen repeatthan exercisedha is : e n formersense her e painful declaration,i‘nifaulesetnye, 11 he admitted, and perhaps, in some instances, a mistaken one— of public duty. He would not move any amendment, but he hoped the lion. Member would withdraw his motion. Mr. RUME sa id th a t i t a pp e ared to him that this subject had notecompl etely exhausted ; and therefore he wou!cl !nerd: express a ;,,:; , e that it would act as a caution for Minis ters in future not to rapes: such practices. He was sorry the Hon. Member should press the House to a division, but if he did he should divide with him, as he was most anxious to see this document. Mr. 'MON CKTON MILNES declared that he should vote in favour of the motion, as he could not see why this Warrant : if such there was in existence, should not be produced as welt as any other public document. Dr. 130 W RING bore his testimony to the high character of Mr. Mazzini. A more honourable man—a more sterling patriot, or purely moral character, did not exist; and though his love of country was great, his abhorrence of crime was greater, and therefore it was that a total ignorance of his cha racter by those who suspected him of those crimes, the sus picion of which had caused his letters to be opened, had led to the course adopted towards him. Colonel WYNDHAM said he knew nothing of Mr. Mazzini, but he would be very sorry to be placed in his position. Mr. BERNAL OSBORNE said he considered that the speech of Dr. Bowring was one that did him honour, for he spoke from his knowledge of the character of a man who was alone and friendless in this country; while Hon. Members opposite, who knew nothing of Mr. Mazzini, had pronounced a contrary opinion. Sir J. GRAHAM said he had already answered the ques tion this evening. He did not trump up statements, but had laid dispatches upon the table of the House from foreign Courts ; and if it should appear from these documents that an act of in justice had been done to Mr. Mazzini, he need not say that no Member of the House would be more ready than he should be to make him the most ample reparation ; and he begged to add, that he would be more ready to do so to an unprotected foreigner than to any Member of that House. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion 22 Against it Majority against the motion —3l LIFE AND FOOT GUARDS. Mr. WILLIAMS said that, in consequence of what had taken place that night, he had altered his intention of asking the House to agree to his proposition for reducing the army. —( Hear, hear.) After what had transpired it would be most injudicious on the part of any Member of that House to pros pose a reduction of the vote now before them.—(Hear, hear.) No person was more anxious than he was to see economy in troduced into every one of their public establishments, and particularly in the army, where he thought it could be prac used to a great extent, and to the'great benefit of the country ; but if he perceived threats in any quarter from which he could infer danger or hostility to the country, he would be the last man in that House to stand in .the way of the Government if he thought they had good grounds for keeping up a force which would be sufficient to maintain the credit and the honour of the country..—(Cheers.) It was his intention to show that the army estimates were considerably larger this year than they had been for several preceding years. In 1835 the vole was for 100,100 men, but it was greater this year by 48,000 men. With regard to the more immediate object of his motion that of a reduction of the Life Guards to one regiment of 400 men, he begged to say that the statement which had been furnished by the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite was not at all in con formity with the statement which he (Mr. Williams) made. The cost of maintaining and clothing each man in the Guards was 651. 17s. each, and the cost of horses and accoutrements wac 44/. 3s. each per annum. Making the cost of each 1001. per annum. Now, he was informed that the cost of each man was 1301., but he would take it at 100/., and calculating the expenses of every kind to the country, he found that the three regiments of Horse and Foot Guards amounted altogether to 355,e691. Now, the cost of the 43d, 52d, 68th, 85th, and 90th regiments of the line, consisting of 4,515 men, was but 132,5521. 10s. The cost of the 20th, 23d, 42d, 45th, 91st, and 97th, consisting of 8,026 men, was 232,0001., making a total cost for those eleven regiments of 355,84e1., being just a few pounds more than the cost of the three regiments of guards. Now, he did not see any reason, why this state of things should continue. He thought that one regiment of horse guards, consisting of 400 men, would be amply sufficient to discharge all the state attendance which her Majesty would require. The regular regiments of the line had to perform all the hard work which the exigencies of the country required, both at home and abroad, while an unfair distinction eith regard to pay was made in favour of the guards, who, he maintained, could live at a less cost in bar racks in the Regent's.park, or Hyde-park, than in any other part of the United Kingdom. There were fifty-eight captains in those regiments who ranked as lieutenant-colonels in the regular army. He saw no reason (and he considered it un wise) that the captains in the guards should be elevated two steps in advance of the captains of the regiments of the line. It created great dissatisfaction and jealousy. And what, he would ask, was the use of the guards? They performed none of the services of the country except what was confined to the metropolis and its neighbourhood. When the Emperor of Russia was over here the Guards were always brought out at review, but it was stated that he said he did not want to see those troops, but the troops who had won their battles and overcome the difficulties they encountered in every part of the globe. It was the reliance which Charles the Tenth of France reposed in his Guards that lost him his throne and kingdom, for were it not for the blind confidence which he reposed in his Guards be would never have issued those foolish ordinances which led to his de thronement. The whole amount of half-pay for the widows and children of officers was 3,689,000/. This heavy burden might be greatly curtailed. He was willing to make a proper recompence in age or infirmity, but he objected to officers in perfect health, and unimpaired by age, retiring from the army on half-pay. They ought to sell their commissions, as they had made no claim for reward on account of public service. He would, however, withdraw the motion. Mr. HUME objected to the large number of Guards, which were maintained at a great expense, and did not go through the usual routine of duties, nor were they obliged to face the hardships which the other departments of the army were obliged to encounter in foreign countries. Be ' sides, there were mere promotions in the Guards than in any other part of the army. He thought every regiment in its turn should serve in the Metropolis anti at the Palace, then a saving would be made which would enable the Government to employ 1,000 men more in the service. The time had come for a saving, and economical principles should at once be carried into effect. He trusted the Government would reduce, at as early a period as possible, the increase which was Low proposed to be made to the army. He came down to the House prepared to resist the further in crease of a vote to the army, but, after what had taken place, he would not do so ; he was as well disposed to economise as any man, but also as far from subjecting this country to be trampled upon by anylforeign Power.—( Hear, hear.) He was anxious for peace, and to save the people of this country, al ready heavily taxed, from further burdens, but not at the ex pense of national honours and national character.—( Cheers.) He hoped the manifestation, so unanimous, which had taken place on that night, would have its effect in the proper quarter, and that p ea ce would yet be restored and that good feeling es tablished between the people of two countries which was so essential to their welfare.—(Hear, and cheers.) The House then went into Committee. ARMY ESTIMATES. Mr. S. HERBERT then rose for the purpose of moving the army estimates, but previous to doing so congratulated the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down upon the sentiments which he had given utterance to. The Right Hon. Gentle man then went on to combat the statements made by the Hon. Member for Coventry (Mr. Williams) regarding the expense of maintaining the Guards, and the salaries to officers. Such troops were necessary, and the salaries to the officers were greater than in the other regiments, because they had greater expenses to sustain. The Honour able Gentleman then went through the different de eresees that were made in the expenses of the army. A de duction, amounting to 6,0001., was made in consequence of the discontinuance of a militia raised by Colonel Read. The expense for the transfer of clothing through the Ordnance was less than usual by 1,000/. in consequence of the regulation of the Committee. In the Volunteer Corps there was a decrease of 1,000/. The decrease upon the Widows Pension, the Ge neral Pensions, the Half-pay, and the Reduced Half-pay, am oun ted to 52.000/. Great benefit would result from that. 'f he total expense of officers, in 1821, artioun'ed to 17,4261. ; in the year 11345 they did not exceed 11,00(1. lie concluded by voting the sum of 2,630,499/. to the support of the army this year. Mr. HUME objected to the custom of paying one corps more than another which may be stationed in the same place. In the Guards the allowance given to one regiment was double that given t o the other. There should be an equality of allow ance or the worst results would follow. In Hong-Kong the effects of such a practice proved to be very dangerous. He hoped they would give every . corps the same allowance, other. arid not attempt to take from one regimen t to support the duc , ion in such a case would require great consideration. Colonel WOOD said that the Hon. Gentleman opposite had made a speech which would reflect upon the character of a Mi litary man. He thought that he was exceedingly unjust to the Household Troops if he supposed that such a thing would give rise to revolutionary ideas in their minds. The Hon. Member for Coventry made a mistake when he stated that since the peace there had been only one battalion of the House hold troops employed ; there were two battalions in Canada, who rmained there for the space of two years. He thought that the Hon. Gentleman ought not to reflect on the character of the Household troops unless he made a substantive motion. Colonel RA WDON referred to the state of mortality that prevailed in the army which was quite sufficient to call for the Interference of the House. He read a letter from Canton stating that that portion of the army stationed there and at Hong-Kong was in the worst state of ill health, He also al luded to Demerara, where a regiment lost lately twenty 'soldiers during the frost of a few months. For the sake of humanity the House ought to interfere, the soldiers ought in the present time, when the world was so peaceable, to be kept in healthy localities. Mr. S. HERBERT said that when Hong-Kong was taken possession of by this country there was nothing to indicate that the climate was detrimental to the constitution of Europeans. He was happy . to say that lately the mortality in that island had very materially decreased. Within the last three years it had been less than in the previous two years. Capt. 13. OSBORNE said that although he could not agree with the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman opposite (Col. Wood) that the abolition of the Household Brigade would tend to re volution, yet he could not support the motion of the lion. Member for Coventry. He would, while he was on his legs, call the attention of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary at War to the slate of the regiment called the Blues. In that regiment the officers were not allowed to exchange, but were obliged to rise step by step. He had heard, too, that the funds of the corps were in a very ba d state ; in fact, that the corps was aloolutely in a state of bankruptcy. Colonel WOOD explained. He did not say the abolition of the Household Brigade would lead to a revolution. What he had said was that it would be revolutionary. Lord ARTHUR LENNOX could assure the lion. Member for Coventry that the jealousy which he had described did net The Gentleman exist amongst the officers of the army. was mistaken when he said that the household troops were been nev er sent abroad. He ( Lord A. Lennox) had f abroad with his regiment for two years together, and if the corps wee to be called out to serve ab r road, he had no doubt Middlesex would be that his Hon. Friend the Member fo ready to vacate his seat and accompanyhisregim.ent abroad e , and the Hon. Member for ,Montrose would then have another opportunity of sustaining a defeat. Mr. WILLIAMS did not wish . to do away with the house. hold troops, he only wished to reduce them. Lord J. MANNERS trusted that a feeling cf economy would not induce the Government to accede to the wishes of t h e lion. Member for Coventry, and he trusted they would take no step which would have a tendency to degrade the household troops in the eyes of the country. After a few words from Mr. S. HERBERT and Mr. C. BEE,* KELEY, Mr. HUME did not think it was fair to attempt to put his Hon. Friend down by saying his motion had a revolutionary tendency. He thought his Hon. Friend was erfectly jus tified in the coarse he had taken, for the Noble Lord olivoiite Sir R. PEEL—I cannot be surprised—l must say that I canbot regret—that the Noble Lord has taken the opportunity of delivering the sentiments winch he has expressed in tl.e course of his speoch.—( Hear, hear.) I think that the Noble Lord has justly defined the limits within which it is wise to intrialtu e into a poliukr as , .etnbly and pending a negotiation matters aff.setiug imp it interests of two great countries. I think that the Noble Lsrd has justly defined the line within which a Niember of Parliament should limit the exe.'cise of his right to discuss such matters. —( Hear, hear. ) Uhile these matters are pending, throu4ll negotiation, between regula'ly constituted authorities, then undoubtedly it is politic, unless great reasons for the exercise of the right exist, to abstain from thst exercise of free discussion in a molar assembly on mat , erg still pending and negotiating between this country and others. It is so easy to excite puidic feeling, th. , t unless there should he some grave and cogent argument in favour of a contrary course, it is much better to leave such matters I have re ferred to to the dispassionate consi l.eratien of tlioe en triliteil with the guardianship of the honour and interests of the respective countries.—( flea-, hear. ) But if the Noble Lord felt it his duty to depart from this course, I must say he is not resp:.nsible f,r any con , equetices which may arise therefo can —( Hear, hear.) Ile says, and with truth, that it would appear from the latest communications from the United States that this important matter has been withdi awn from the cognizance of those authorities to whom, up to a recent period, it had been entrusted. —(Hear, hear.) Appeals have been made for the decision of this matter to other authorities than those who were previously recognised.—( Haar.) The Noble Lord has ju tly said, that in speaking on this subject, a Minister of the Crown speaks under obligations and engagements of reserve from which he, as an individual Member of Parliament, is free. Ido not thin k it consistent with my duty to follow the Noble Lord through a consideration and discussion of the grounds on which the United States have urged their claim. It would be impos sible for me to do so without expressing, or at least implying opinions, which I think it would be more consistent with my duty not to do. I will only correct the Noble Lord in one part of his speech in which I think he was mistaken. 'The Noble Lord is in error in supposing that the ultimate offt-r made to the United States by Mr. Canning was the line of the Al‘Gillivery and the Columbia rivers as the boundary between the two countries. A further offer was made by Mr. Huskisson and Mr. Addington to Mr. Gallatin in the year 1.2e1, of which probably the Noble Lord was not cognizant. It included a harbour its the Straits of De Iruca, and a consi derable tract of country to the southward of the Straits of De Fuca, and bounded by the Straits on the north, a canal called Hood's Canal on the east, the Pacific on the west, and a line drawn from the southern point of Gray's Harbour to the southern point of Hood's Canal. This peninsular is to the north of the Columbia River. I think I should abstain from the further discussion of these claims; but I do feel it open to me to inform the House of what is the general state of our ne gotiations with the United States. Perhaps it will be conve nient for roe to ref:r to the statement I made the other night, in consequence of a question from the Hon. Member for Bath. I stated, that in 1813 the northern boundary of the United States, and the boundary of the British possessions to the east ward of the Rocky Mountains, were defined. It was carried to the point where the 49th parellel of north latitude intercepts the Rocky Mountains. No definite agreement was made with regard to the territory westward of the Rocky Mountains, but a convention was agreed to in 1818, which gave a right of joint occupation to the subjects of both countries, and which convention was to endure for ten years. In the course of 1824 arid 1828 efforts were made by Mr. Canning for an amicable adjustment of the respective claims of both countries. Those efforts, continued under the auspices of a man of great ability, entirely failed. The proposal we made to the United States was rejected by them, and the proposal thy made was rejected by us. At the expiration of the ten yea: s, as the Convention woull expire, a new convention was en tered in 18'27, which continued in force for a further period of ten years. The convention of 1827, with this additional proviso distinguishing it from the eett cention of 1318, namely that the corvention of 1827 sho..ld :aot necessarily be determined by the lapse of time, but shout , 1 ei.eitinue ui f tree fur tin indelitlise per.oei, each party having she power of terminating it at the expiration of a Year, by notice given a year before; and in that case the rights of the two ,artier were to revive and not to be prejudiced. That is the eoliveotion which now doteimines our relations with the United states with reepecs to the territory in question, which I will sli the Oregon territory. Thinking it of great importance that the cau,es of future difficulty should be prevented by tin amicable settlement of our claim, Mr. Pakenham was directed to enter into negotiations wiih the Government of the Unit. d States for Ow purpose of effecting that amicable arrangement peinc:jile s equitable and jist to the two countries. T he ne gotiation was continued dining the presidency of Mr. Tyler, almost frotu the hour when Mr. Pakenham entered on the performance of his duties in the Uni'ed States; and perhaps it may be useful that I should read the notize taken ciao' progrets of those negotiations, in a mcseage of the President of the United States tr, bo:h Mouses of Congress, so late as the period of the 3d of December, 1344. The President states : Since the (Owe of your last session a negotiation has been normally entered upon between the Secretary of State and her Britannic Majesty's Minister Plenipotentiary and Envoy Extraorditiary reading at Washington, relative to the rights their e.pectise nations in and over the Oregon territory. That negotiation is stiil pending. Should it, during your session, be brought to a definite conclusion, the result still be [multiply communicated to Congress. I would, however, again cad your attention to the recommendations ccntained cu previous rre.tsages, design, d to protect and facilitate es:nest atton to that territory. The establishment of military posts, at suitable points, upon the extended line of land navel, would enable our citizens to emigrate in comparative safety to the fertile regions below the falls of the Columbia, and make the provision of the existing convention for the joint oecupation of the territory by the subjects of Great Britain and the citizens ot the United States more available than heretofore to the latter. These posts would constitute places of rest fur the weary emigi ant, where he would be sheltered securely against the danger of attack from the Indians, and be enabled to recover from the exhaustion of a long line of travel. Legislative enactments should also be made, which should spread over him the ;isegis of. our laws, so as to afford protection to his person ant' property when he shall have reached his distant home. In this latter respect, the British Government has been much more careful of the interests of such of her people as are to be found in that country than have the. United States. She has made necessary provision for their security and protection against the acts of the viciously dis posed and lawless, and her emigrant reposes in safety under the panoply of her laws. Whatever may be the result of the pend ing negotiation, such measures are necessary. It will afford me the greatest pleasure to witness a happy and favourable termi nation to the existing negotiation upon terms compatible with the public honour ; and the best efforts of the Government will continue to be directed to this end." That was the message to hoth Houses of Congress, delivered by the late President, Mr. Tyler, so late as December 3, 1844.—( Hear, hear.) Nothing conid be more generally friendly or show a greater desire to effect an amicable arrangement by negotiation.—( Hear, hear.) But at a later period still, a motion was made in Congress for an address to the Executive Government, praying that all papers 'elating to this negotiation should be laid on the table of the House. It was necessary for the President, Mr. Tyler, to reply to that address, and the reply he made is as late as the :9,11 of February, 1t545, about a fortnight betore this inaugural speech, for it is not a message, was delivered, to which the Noble Lord has referred.—(Hear, hear.) And what is the answer at Mr. Tyler? It is as follows : "To the Senate of the United States,--In answer to the resolution of the Senate of the 11th of December, 1844, re questing the President to lay before the Senate, if in his judg meut that may be done without prejudice to the public inte rests, a copy of any instructions which may have been given by the executive to the American Minister in England, on the suklect, of the title to and etteupat ion of the territory of Oregon, since the 4th day of Alsti eh, 1841 ; also a copy of any cor respondence which may have pasted het ween this Governreent and teat of Great litl;ain, or lit2twven either of the two Go vernments and the Minister of the other, in relation to that subject since that mine—l have to say, that in my opinion, as the negotiation is still pending, the information sought for cannot be communicated without prejudice to the public service. I deem it, however, proper to add, that considerable progress has been made in the discussion, which has been car tied on in a very amicable *pica between th-, two Govern ments; and . that there is reason to hope that it may be terminated, and the negotiation be brought to a close within a short cried. I have delayed answering the re solution under the expect tion expressed in my annual message, that the negotiation would have been terminated betore the close of the presesit session of Gongeess s and „that the inftirmation called for by the te . soltitietilsof the Senate might be communicaSed. " Washington, Feb. 19, !S.C.'. "JOHN TYLER." certtisly, nothirg m mon kindly than the wirit i* , tn'arat , ort of eert-in parties f7om the finit , .-d States. In , 11,ce, that i>-tor, ai y tong tiro, OIL! RP!' ould hr, exten,W 10 rilt fotm a i:art of the federal union. was time this subjeet that. he wished, after the appeal of the President to the people of the United States, to call the attention of the !louse.—(Near.) H !shed to show hoe tar the Pres.idetet of the United States was justified in declaring his intender], wiihout the sanction of any trieey or eenvention, of occupying tl.is territory. In a sr s ter „f •be s - kind it. was necessity to ireplire taro the usage 3• 'sleet' a right to env territory hells.' te unfixed and un el.em st was claimed With reesrd to an uninhabited ce, ',try there n i ght be a tlfe 113' i , 10•0 111 t, list ever , , by treaty or eon veetierr, or :knotty by se , ni n! and oceueatien. Now what wry the riebi iif the Unit/eV:stet. e, as he eathered it from re l. r? , made er Loss neer as 1•.'.5 snd ISs.6. by a Committee of tee Fleuse Beres-tonsil es ? rseard to ancieot dis covers the Un'ted saes e!l the rielos that. were de r semi Spanish discovery. but he would not much regard a discovery at t..e end of the 16 , 11 century. which consisted of a landing of a few hours on the coast, witheut any attempt made to p, re ee t it hy occupation. But even on tire point of prior dis cover, he would. hs ready to meet the Presitteet ot the United - , eiat• - •, and weld eonteret for the discovery of Sir Francis Drs:.•e as compared with the discor , ry of the Spanish navieetur in 1592. l hew with regard to the question of treety ; but before he went into that he would state what was the oesition of what was called the Oregon Territory. It might be couseiered RS the territory lsing between the Runty mountains and the Pacific, from vas's to west, and be t wren latitude 4tl 1r 42 and 59 from north to seuth. Now, as far as hr could ascertain, that large 5.. rritory did not ap - p ear to have been the •übj ct ot stipuletiens between the countries of Europe till late in the last century. It was said by America that the treaty .if Utrecht referred to that territory, but he maul! not find any reference to it in that treaty, and there did not appear to him to be any claim on that ground. It was said again t •at the treaty of 1763, the treaty of Paris, gave to France or Spain. or to one or other, all the territory to the wear of the Mississippi. it so happened that on a late occa sion he found it necessary to read the negotiations which had taken place with regard to the treaty of Paris, and had con sulted the various dispatches which passed between the Duke of Bedford arid the French Minister, and it was clear from those documents that the racily question between France and England at that moment was as to the set tlement between Canada and Louisiana.—( Hear, hear.) By the treaty Canada was ceded to England, and Louisiana to France, with the exception of some parts to the east of the Mississippi. They must then consider whether Louisiana, as it was then held by France, comprehended any portion to the west of the Rocky Mountains, and upon this a very excellent pamphlet had been published by Mr. Faulkener.—(Hear, hear.) It appeared. from the instructions sent by Louis XI V. to M. Croissade, who was at that time at the bead of the Go vernment of Louisiana, that he did not consider Loui siana extended so far as the Rocky Mountains. It would appear that it was corisidered to extend to the country westward of the Missouri and the Mississippi. There was nothing, therefore, in the treaty of 1763, from which it could be inferred eves by implication that any title was created to the territory beyond the Rocky Mountains. Next they came to the claims which it was said arose from the discoveries of navigators, and the settlements made on the coases. In the year 1785, the question arose with regard to Nootka Sound. That settlement was attacked and destroyed by the Spaniards. The Enolish Government demanded re dress from the Spanish Government, that iedress was given to them, and terms were agreed on with re , rard to the future oc cueation of the country. Those terms showed that the country was censidereci as one to which no valid claim of sovereignty could ts • established by °title Party. it appeared that neither the English nor the Spanish Geveroments had formed such settlements there as to give a valid tole to the territory. He could refer the Haute to the Convention agreed on at the Escurial, in relatten to this subject. witch would be formed in " Hertsist's Cermeer cial Treaties." fis the Sir article '.l that Convention, it was agreed that the subjects ef either ceutory should have f-ee access to the tern o• y to carry on iheet kdo v% h .ut nit festal ion from the o' le r. It was agreed that al pars ot the e.t.a) if the spanili settlements should he open to the -uojecis of both countries, but that neither Spain nor England shoule timothy settle there for the purp• - ose of assuming tire ,ot.Trunty ot the country. Now it did not appear that spent bad any serf.emeets t ro tire nerth of laei'ude 40. At all even-s. she had Lone s , far north as the mouth of the Co leo hie River. By the treaty, it NAai open either to Great lb to n or 'r Spain to perfect the di -ouster) , of the corietry, and to e_talnish aed make sertlemente in consequence of such dise iveries. Captain Vancouver, after that convention had tieen elm red into, sac nett by the British G .veroment to make (1 a °err ies, and to tak • pes , essimi, io the name of the King of Gr, at ieetair. of ush ter ritori.-s as he might discover. He now came to smeller part of the claim of the United statee— viz., :cat ohieh was founded on alreged priority ot discover's'. I! atepsated that a merceant yes' 't, called the Coalmine. tem mended to, Captain Grey, 1 - all di cevered an inlet, which Capt. Grey surer:cal io se th.• islet to some laver. 'Tins was in the mar hof May. 1792. After remaining at anchor in that inlet ter some rime, .net serebnes out boats for the purpose of ascer tainieg the limits of the bay, and ascer tearing that it was not. the inlet of any river, the vessel sailed cut 4110 the Pacific Ocean. This was clear from the statemerit made by Captain Gres, for he said, that after sonic days having found what they thought was the channel of a river. they discovered their mis take, for what they had discovered was clearly no channel, and they returned. Shortly aftsr, Captain Vancouver arrived, and he not only entered she inlet, hut he sent his fist-lieutenant, Liaut- tiant lirou.hton, in his boat, to go d. , wo th; river. Lieutenant Broughton was mere successful than Captain Grey had been, for he not only &seers/erect the eetrance to the Columbia river, but he proceeded up that river to a considerable distance. Captain Vancouver took possession of it arid Nootka Sound in the name of the King of England, and this was a valid pos ses.ion. He sailed up its course for some days in a boat, to a distance of ninety or one hundred miles from the mouth, and discovered much of the territories surrounding it. It was agreed that the river should be called the Columbia ; and Lieutenant Broughton returned to the ship. But Captain Vancouver took possession of the river and the coast ad jacent to Nootkha Sound, in the name of his Majesty the King of England. Here, then, was indeed someth,ng like a regular and weil-foundul title, the taking pos session. red, by the commander of a merchant vessel, but by an officer in the uniform of the King of Etigland, for the purpose of occupation and settlement. --(Much cheering.) These wee the most important diplomatic transactions that had taken place in relation to this subject. But there are other transactions on which the Committee of the House of Representatives had attempted to found some claim, and which, I thi n k, w ill not h e f oun d to sus t a i n th a t claim. In 1803, France surrendered to the United States all its rights with respect to Louisiana; and, in 1819, Spain ceded to the United States all its rights in connexion with Florida. But, unless it appears that the territories of France and Spain, arising from the possession of these countries, ex tended to the west of the Rocky Mountains, it is manifest that no treaty made by them could convey to another party a title to countries to which they themselves had no title. It bad been stated in an American pamphlet, which he held in his hand, that the district of Louisiana included all the land on the east side of the Mississippi and the Rocky Mountains—that district included between the land claimed by Spain on the one side, and by Great Britain on the other ; but wiless Louisiana was included in that part ot the territory vrest of the Rocky Mountains, it ought not to have been in clu!'ed in the convention. The words of the treaty, too, were worthy of oleservation. They did not ray the territory belonging to or ackeowledged to belong to. but the territory " claimed by" Great Britain.—( hear.) With regard to the cession by Spain. the only ces-ion they had aria right to Rinke was under the convention with Great 116 , ain relative to Nootka Sound. There was a convention bstween Span on one side, and Gres , Britain on the other. The two Powers afterwards went to war, and it was used a, an argument, Our the part of the Unites States, th.it in eons.- p en ce of that Great. Britain had l e st a il tVe flier) it claixed teeter the converitien. The f act was, that the cent:omen wis very' wed by an htid . t;nnal articl e in the .r, -at' between this ceuntry avid Spain in 1814, then - fore they could onls su•areed to sueh tin e es Spain held in 1814. It was a role to settle arid trs de in that ti rritory. Thee he woule l i m er n e 10 the third cursetion, shies was the ITI s st important of all the mires title—re meant the titl e b y occusancy sit -tern nt. The quo stem new for them to e.qi•ider was, weether !here 'c-,4 whit the Preedent of tie- Uni ed states cailed a tide, real and unquestienahle, to be made out of necup.ocy and seetlement, He had etre-arty stated that thsre w.a a sett' neut. in Neotke Sound, and that ths•re was aiso a settle-iient to de by the ilutson's Bay Com. pney in the Orsgum territery. II 1:311, as wit stied ha Wa s hie t er..n Irene!, Mr. Ast, n mede a settirtineet In Colour. his. Sherri% afterwards there was a war, arid the question W , R who shou take possession if tee osinnien territory. The settlers, in the me .ctime. agreed o ld ) a company, called the No-th NVestern Company. for this sale of t'-at c luny. Thai sale was effscied but under the tr. ate of Ghent, in 1815. cwilig to some misaeprr•heneron on the part it the English Go ver nment, Loot liathurst th,eght it right to restore the settle ment under the lint artless. of the treats, whit` - : provided that all possessions previously belonging to either of the two Powers. Aryl r aptured by erthsr(arty during the war, should be re cto -ed to their former p .sseesors. It, was urged on tits pin of this ceunrry that the covenant of restitution did not apply to It,:toria, for that settlement had not been cap tursd, but regularly sold by private purchase. The transaction, however, tank place ; but though this was :so, and though tire settlement was given up to an agent ot the United States, the Americans, in point of fact, did not re-establish any sietthenent in Astoria_ —( Cries of "hear, hear.") A few years afiersvarde, the Hudson's Bay Cele pany and the North West Company united, and were joined into one company by Act of Parliament. The company oceutried the rettlermmt, and called it Fort George, and Air. Farnham found established there a clerk of the Hudson's Bay Company, who was called King of the Indians, exercising the greatest influi nee over the natives, found no one else in power, and who, in fact, was the only person having any influence or authority, Mr. Farnham gives an account of a company established in the United States, and called the Pacific Fur Company, and he expresses his regret that this specula tion was a total failure. He relates, very fairly, that the reason of this failure was not violence or ageression by British subjects, but because the Hudson's Bay Company acted with a more en larged spirit of enterprise, understood the trade better, and took a more accurate a- d comprehensive view of the best mode of oc caoation, the manner of dealing with the natives, and of the safest and best way to conduct the trade in every respect. They were obliged to sell their settlements to the Hudson's Bay Company. It was taken, on good authority, that there were 20,000 people living in this part of the Oregon territory, very few of whom were citizens of the United States, and at the same time the Hudson's Bay Company had agents who had made settlements throughout the country.—( Hear. He liked to quite American authority, and was glad to find another American citizen—a lieutenant in the American ser vice—hearine the highest testimony to the intelligence, the integrity, and the benevolence with which the Company guides its course in all its transactions with the natives.—( Hear hear.) They all knew that dreadful story in the history of American civilization which told of civilized people prevail leg with the unfortunate savages, by giving them intoxicating drinks, to part un uniair terms with their furs and other goods —of e , vilized men, thus brutalizng the wretched savages with the rum and brandy they self them in exclia!,ge for the pro duce of their hunting excursions. Now the gentleman to whom he had altoded—a lieutenant in the American service —said that the Hudson's Bay Company did every thing to pre. vent such transactions un the part of their agents. Ihe Com pany had large sores of rum, but this is not allowed to he sold to the 13va. e 4, and a ship having latch arrived with a cargo of inerie:, the Cempiny actually bought up the whole cargo,. to prevent the degradation of the Indians eau,e't by that immode rate u-c of spirits which has been the ruin and de.truotion of so en-ny of that peopl , . Sui-li was the high eli,atacter that the C im pany deservedly la,ro—sueli the eat , ut of their transactions and the ii-it wherei, the!, I . :iri y them on. It was ohv:ous, seeing the inerease of relations cahich must take pine,. be tw.,en this ettutery and our Indian . possessirins arid China, it was of the very first importance to have the com mand of that part of the coast. 'There might be ports as good. I or better, further to the rio , th, in the nen , hbouihri d of Nen ka Sound, but th' torts were uoliproachabie. What was the result of the stabeneet which he had endeavoured to make to the Meese on this difficult subjeci ? Why, that with regitet anr!ent tiiseoveries, Ernzland had a better claim than the United St.tes. Welt respect to the treaties, the tinted States 'had no (:round whatever to rest. Upon the ground of tii , corery, ttten, as well as by treaty, the c'aims of thi c o untry were stronger to that disputed territory than those of the United States.—( Hear, hear.) Enid sh 'subjects, for the o,i part, occupied it. and English subjreis were now en gaged in carrying on a traffic of greet importance thane. Hieing thug, in a mere manner, gated the ela of the re. himself was more indebted for his position in the army to his birth than to any merits of his own.--(Cries of" Older.") Lord ARTHUR LENNOX could assuretht Hon. Gentle man that during the twenty-four years which he had been connected with the army, he had always followed his regiment wherever it had been quartered. He would not say more than that he was convinced the Gentlemen on the opposite side of the House were wrong in supposing that any jealousy existed on the part. of the officers of the line with respect to the officers of the Guards. _ . _ V. Captain B. OSBORNE thought that his Hon. Friend near him (Mr. Hume) showed too much sensitiveness on the pre sent occasion. His Hon. Friend was generally so good humoured, that they did not know how to draw him cut ; but at last they discovered that his weak side was Middlesex.— (Laughter.) With regard to what his Hon. Friend said of the Noble Lord opposite respecting his promotion, he (Captain Osborne), who had served with the Noble Lord, could say that he was entitled to his promotion long before he got it. Mr. HUME said that he could name persons who were ten years longer in the service than the Noble Lord, and who did not get promotion ; but he did not wish to create any jealous feelings, so he would not name them. Colonel WOOD said that though the Hon. Gentleman was not Member for Aliddlesex, he was glad he had a seat for another place, where he could be as useful to the country as ever. He did not mean anything personal in saying that the motion of the Hon. Member was revolutionary. He believed it was perfectly Parliamentary to characterise emotion by that epithet. The vote was then agreed to. 155,0991. was voted to defray the expenses of the staff officers. 89,412/. was voted to defray the expenses of the officers in the different military establishments throughout the country. 13,200/. was voted for the Royal Military Asylum and the Hibernian Military School. 86,168/. was voted for the Volunteer Corps. 56,593/. was voted for former unpaid services. 14,1481. was voted to defray the expenses paid for distinguished services. 73,0001. was voted for the expenses of general officers not being colonels of regiments. 62,0001. was voted to defray the expenses of full pay to re tired officers. On the vote of 341,0001. being proposed for the cost of re tired half-pay officers, Sir H. DOUGLAS said he believed the time had come when he should, according to the notice he had given, call the at tention of the Committee to the cases of regimental staff offi cers, surgeons, paymasters, and quartermasters, with a view to allow them to retire on their full pay, after thirty years' ser vice. '1 his could be effected at a small expense, and he only threw it out at present as a suggestion, which he hoped would be adopted on a future occasion. He thought that, after thirty-five years' service, the officers he had named should be enabled to retire on full pay, and he hoped all Hon. Members would concur in the justice of his motion. Capt. B. OSBORNE wished the Gallant Officer had included veterinary surgeons. The whole thing was so small, and would conduce so much to the efficiency of the army, that he thought the House should not refuse it.—The vote was agreed to. A vote of 52, - 452/. was then proposed for the half-pay re duced allowance of foreign officers and the widows and orphans of foreign officers.—Tke vote was agreed to. A vote was then proposed of 141,8481. to defray the ex penses of the widows and orphans of officers of the land forces. Agreed to. A vote of 105,000/. was then proposed as an allowancefor the compassionate list.—Agreed to. A vote of 920,5531. was proposed for Chelsea and Kil mainham Hospitals.—Agreed to A vote of 38,500/. for superannuated allowances was pro posed.—Agreed to. NAVY ESTIMATES. Mr. CORRY proposed a sum of 1,289,543/. for the wages of seamen and marines. _ _ _ Captain PECHELL said that he wished to eall the atten tion of the Committee to the situation of captains' clerks in the navy. They were called upon to perform eminent and im portant services, and they received for these the most paltry pay. They had scarcely any hope of advancement, and having no rank in the navy, were subordinate to the smallest mid shipman or the lowest officer, although they messed with mates and midshipmen. The pay was now but 561. per annum for the highest, and 521. for the lowest, and he thought their situ ation deserved the attention of the Admiralty. Sir G. COCKBURN said there were great difficulties in the way. The captains had the appointment of their own clerks, and might appoint whom they pleased, and discharge them when they pleased, so that the Admiralty had no control over them. The clerks who passed were taken care of in the navy, and the Admiralty had a hold of them, but that was not the ease with captains' clerks. It would not be easy to say that no clerks should enter the navy except through the Admi ralty, because if they required a captain to take a clerk under such circumstances, the captain might very reasonably say, " Then you must not hold me responsible tor this man's acts. ' He did not know whether a half-pay system might not be adopted, with proper restrictions, but great difficulty existed in adopting the extensive changes suggested by the Gallant Officer, on account of the number of applications for situations of this description. Sir C. .NAPIER admitted that it was extremely difficult to make any material arrangement on this subject, but he did not see any difficulty in the Admiralty appointing clerks after they had passed their examination, and then holding them responsi ble. He did not think the captain would have any objection to the Admiralty appointing clerks in this way, provided the clerk was held responsible. Mr. WILLIAMS thought that persons who were employed for a short time as clerks by captains and then dismissed, had no claim to support afterwards at the expense of the public, but if they were placed upon the establishment, they then acquired a right to a provision for their subsistence. Captain PECHELL said what he wished was, that this class of persons should be made respectable, taken from the list, and rewarded with a modicum of half-a-crown a-day when the Admiralty could not give him a ship. Mr. HUME hoped the Gallant Admiral would state what check there was to prevent extravagant expense. In some ships the expenses were so great as to more than swallow up a young man's pay. Sir G. COCKBURN said directions had recently been is sued to commanders of vessels to inquire into the state of the messes, their expenses, and general management, and to exer cise their discretion in controlling them. The House then resumed. The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again on Monday. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter to One. LLOYD'S SHIPPING. EAST INDIA SHIPPING. Arrivals at Calcutta-Clifton, Feb. 8, from Bristol ; Proto melia, from Newcastle; Mary Somerville, from Liverpool ; Romeo, 9th, from Greenock ; Windsor, 17th, from London ; Audax, from China ; Nitts, 18th, from Ceylon ; Coromandel, 19th, from Greenock; Palatine, from Liverpool; Duke of Wellington, from Alloa. Departures from Calcutta-Fire Queen, steamer, Feb. 17, to the Straits; Queen, 180, Tudor, 19th, to London ; Vernon, put back, 9th, with loss of cutwater. Arrivals at Madras -Emily, Feb. 13, from Newcastle ; Deva, 15th, from Liverpool; Lady Flora, 15th, from Cudda lore ; Duke of Argyll, 7th, Cuddalore ; Glasgow, 21st, from Glasgow. Departures from Madras-Her Majesty's ship Pilot,o Feb. 15, to Trincomalee ; Frances, 17th, to Barbadoes oct, 19th; Orestes, Diana, and Duke of Roxburgh, to China; Marie Mathilde, to Bordeaux. Arrivals at .Aden-John Line, March 1, from Madras; her Majesty's ship Serpent, 9th z , from Bombay. Depai ture from Aden -Niagara, March 4, to Bombay. Arrivals at Hong-Kong-Java, Dec. 21, from London ; John Christian, from Liverpool ; Eagle, 22d, from Bristol ; Annie, 24th, from Sydney; Isabella Anna, from Hobart Town ; her Majesty's ship Vestal, 27th, from Sydney ; Advo cate, 28th, from Bombay; Alligator, Jan. 4, from Shanghae ; Packet, from Calcutta; Mary Ann Webb, from Shanghae ; Sarah, from Sydney. Departures from Moil;-Kong.-Mersey, Dec. 17 ; Path finder, 17th ; John Laird, 22d ; Eagle, 22d ; Lady, 23d ; Royal Albert, 29th ; Lysander. 31st ; Forfarshire, - Jan. 1 ; Castle Eden, 5 ; all to London ; Vanguard. Dec. 22, to Manilla ; Eleanor Russell, 31st, to Manilla; Kestrel, Jan. 6, to Sydney; Penang, to Liverpool. Arrivals at Colombo.-Afriea, Feb. 14, from Calcutta ; Sharp, 15th, from Shields and Galle. . Departure from Trincomalee. Broad Oak, Jan. 2, to Liverpool. Arrivals at Bombay.-Imann of Muscat, Feb. 16 ; Linton, 23; Murray, 24; John Moore, 28 ; Competitor, March 1, all from Liverpool. WINDSOR STEEPLE CHASES. WINDSOR, THURSDAY EVENING—SECOND DAY.—The course to-day was not attended by more than one-fourth of the number of persons who were present during the afternoon of yesterday. The company, however, included a great per tion of the nobility and gentry of the neighbourhood. and several sporting characters from the metropolis and its vici nity. The racing, which was excellent, came off as follows : A Sweepstakes of 5 soya each, p.p., for horses bond fide the property of officers in the Army or Navy, or members, or sons of members, of White's, Crockford's, Boodle's, New Croxton Park, Bibury, Glinton Park, or members or sons of members of a racing or hunting club ; to be ridden by the same, or professional riders, if approved of by the s tewards. To carry 12st each, and thorough-bred horses 71b extra, Horses that never started prior to this meeting allowed 71b. Mr. H. N. Penrice's ch g Du p rez (Saith) I Lord Glamis's b h Buc e p halus 2 3 Mr. Flemming's b m D anseuse Mr. Innes's b g Deception ( late Fire King) 0 Capt. Powell's ch g Rega lia. At the start Bucephalus took the lead over the hurdles and first rails and fence, followed closely by Regalia, who first cleared the brook, and kept well in advance the first time round the corner, being at least three hundred yards ahead on passing the Grand Stand, followed by Duprez next, and the others far behind. Regalia, . who Pap next, safe to win, refused the first leadingfence course, bolted at the brook, thus losing all chance up. The ra ce the brook a second time, and wasof w i offn i the g, and was walked back. Deception thre wiledoe, after taking on to the the last three fences being neck and neck over l by about half a length. was then between Duprez and Bucephalus, both horses ' course. Duprez won clever the jockey who rode the win a n n mg h appeal being made to the All in this race were gentlemeltyrld.eorrss,ewitHhethNie.asexobc objected dn to before starting, but upon - e she thampton, on Thursday last, Re stewards, tary Steeple U...." the objection was overruled. At the Grand Mili _lwinner,jri.. Box-keeper, and was then onlyc o n d Halfto a lera!h" ~,i th 10 added, by subscription, A indsor, one month A g be a st s li t w a en e ra e b pvt n y s a e ' l ' 2 . miles ot nro ert of farmers for horseS that have been the . p,,,,.Y and kes o . f d2insogv:hic 1., , 1 2 ridden by the tradesmen rest prevrou. • cly to the day of running, and to same. The winner to be sold for 501., if de[7-nded, &c. The selling articles as the 2d and 3d race of the fia t da y' Mr. 'l'. (Mr. Rance Shackel's g g Monarch „ Mr. Lovegrove's b h Jamie (Owner) -.. The horses were neck and neck over all the fences u p to the brook, when Monarch took the lead. The rider of Jamie was thrown in taking the third fence after the brook, and appeared to have lost all chance of winning; the horse fall ing, with his off fore knee on his chest, and striking him with his hoof, drawing blood under his ear. Monarch, how ' ever, in the first round, having gone - tl. e wrong side of one of the toning flags. had, to win, to go a third time over the mile and a half, he beat Jamie by at least 30 0 yards. There course, and notwithstanding he had to perform thisadditional was some dispute as to the stakes, but upon an appeal being made to the stewards, they were awaided to Monarch. A Scurry Stakes of 1 soy. each, with 5 soya. added. The winner to be sold, if claimed, for 251; the rules of claiming being the same as the two selling stakes of the first - day. list. Once round the Military Luse. 1 ..(Owner Mr. W. Scott's Algar, outof Gift Mr. Langton's b g C o nspirator ( Rackley 2 Mr. Foster's eh m Haidee, aged ... .. (Templeton) 3 (Cannon) Mr. Clive named Miss Fidget ) ) 0 Algar won in beautiful style, beating Conspirator by only half a length, Haidee being about five lengths in the rear. A second. Scurry Stakes was afterwards got up, of I SOV.a each and 5 added, by a gentleman en the ground, Which were won by Mr. T. Carter's oh h E>ampEma, beating two others, belonging to :,U. Fagg. PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS. THURSDAY, APRIL, 3, Standing Orders Committee,—Resolutions reported ; 1. " That, in the case of the Dunstable and London and Birmingham Railway petition, the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the parties be permitted to pro ceed with their Bill." 2. " That, in the case of the Liverpool and Bury Railway petition (Bolton, Wigan, and Liverpool Railway and Burt• Extension), the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the parties be permitted to proceed with their Bill." 3. " That, in the case of the Wilts, Somerset, and Wey mouth Railway petition, the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the parties be permitted to proceed with their Bill." 4. " That. in the case of the Southampton and Dorchester Railway petition, the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the parties be permitted to proceed with their Bill." 5. " That, in the case of the Lyme Regis Waterworks Petition, the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the parties be permitted to proceed with their Bill on inserting a provision that the Commissiomers shall not make any lateral deviati-an from the line or situation of the Aqueducts and Re servoir, as delineated on the Plan." 6. " That, in the case of the;Cromer Protection from the Sea Petition, the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with That the parties be permitted to proceed with their Bill, and that after the first Reading thereof the Bill be referred to the Select Committee on Petitions for Private Bills, who shall examine and report to the House whether the Standing Or ders for Bills of.the Second Class have been complied with, substituting in the said Standing Orders the months of Fe bruary and March for the months of October and November for giving the notices in the Gazette and Newspapers, and re quiring proof to be given of the deposit of plans, &c., and Ap plication to Owners having been made in the course of the said months." 7. " That, in the case of the Totnes Market Petition, the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the par ties be permitted to proceed with their Bill on referring the datum line to some fixed point, stated in writing on the See tion. " That the Committees on this and the twopreceding Bills do examine, in the first place, how far such Orders have been complied with, and do report the same to the House on the Report of the Bills." 8. " That, in the case of the Dublin Cemeteries Petition, the Standing Orders ought not to be dispensed with." First seven Resolutions agreed to.—Report to lie on the Table. The following Bills were referred to the Select Committee on Petitions for Private Bills : Londonderry and Coleraine Railway. Londonderry and Enniskillen Railway. London and SoUth Western Railway (Epsom Branch). London and Brighton Railway (Wandsworth Branch). London and Brighton Railway (Dorking Branch). Liverpool and Bury Railway (Bolton, Wigan, and Liver pool Railway and Bury Extension),—Report from Select Committee on Standing Orders read; Bill ordered to be brought in by Mr. Wilson Patten, Mr. Greenall, Dr. Bow ring, and Mr. Walker. Dunstable and London and Birmingham Railway,—Report from Select Committee on Standing Orders read ; Bill ordered to be brought in by Mr. Mangles, Mr. Henry Stuart, and Mr. Ast ell. Southampton and Dorchester Railway,—Report from Select Committee on Standing Orders read; Bill ordered to be brought in by Mr. Mildmay, Mr. George William Hope, and Colon,' Darner. NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE. Epsom and Dorking Railway,—Committee on petition, Monday, April 14. North Woolwich Railway,—Second reading, Monday, April 7. Cornwall Railway,—Second reading, Monday, April 7. Great Southern and Western (Ireland) Railway,—Second reading, Monday, April 7. London and South Western (Epsom Branch) Railway,— Committee on petition, Monday, April 14. London and Brighton (Wandsworth Branch)Railway,— Committee on petition, Monday, April 14. London and Brighton (Dorking Branch) Railway,—Com mittee on petition. Monday, April 14. Staines and Richmond Railway,—Committee on petition, Monday, April 14. Eastern Union Railway Amendment,—Second reading, Monday, April 7. FRIDAY, APRIL 4. Direct Northern Railway (No. I ),—Committee on peti on, postponed from Monday 7th till Wednesday, April 9. Wells and Dereham Railway,—Committee on petition, adjourned till Friday, April 4. Bristol and Exeter Railway Branches,—Committee onpeti tion, adjourned till Tuesday, April 8. Dublin and Belfast Junction Railway,—Committee on petition, adjourned till Tuesday, April 8. Surrey Iron Railway Company Dissolving,—Committee on petition, adjourned till Tuesday, April 8. Hull and Gainsborough Railway,—Committee on petition, adjourned till 'Tuesday, April 8. Grand Junction Railway,—Committee on petition, ad journed till Tuesday, April 8. Rye and Tenterden Railway,—Second reading, Tuesday, April 8. Bedford and London and Birmingham Railway,—Second reading, Tuesday, April 8. Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton Railway,—Second reading, Tuesday, April 8. Kingstown and Bray Railway,—Committee on petition, postponed from Monday 7th till 7 fliursday, April 10. Manchester, Bury, and Rossendale Railway,—Second read ing, Tuesday, April 8. Middlesbro' and Redcar Railway,—Second reading, Tues day, April 8. Wear Valley Railway,—Second reading, Tuesday, April 8. Blackburn, Darwen, and Bolton Railway,—Second reading, Tuesday, April 8. Bridgwater Navigation and Railway,—Committee on peti tion, 11I.onday, April 14, at one. FRIDAY, APRIL 4. The following Bills were read a second time and colas mitted, and referred to the Committee of Selection:— Dublin and Drogheda Railway. Saint Helen's Canal and Railway. Dundalk and Enniskillen Railway. Waterford and Kilkenny Railway. Lowestoft Railway and Harbour. The following Bills were presented and read a first time : Liverpool and Bury Railway (Bolton, Wigan, and Liverpool Railway and Bury Extension), Southampton and Dorchester Railway. Dunstable aad London and Birmingham Railway. COURT CIRCULAR. The Queen and Prince Albert, accompanied by the Prince of Wales and the Princess Royal, took an airing yesterday morning in an open barouche and four. The Equerries in Waiting, Colonels Arbuthnot and Bouverie, were in attend ance on horseback. The Princess Alice and Prince Alfred were taken for pony and walking exercise yesterday, in the royal gardens of Buck ingham Palace. His Royal Highness Prince Albert presided yesterday afternoon at a meeting of the Commissioners for promoting and encouraging the Fne Arts in the rebuilding of the Palace of Westminster. His Royal Highness, attended by Colonel Bouverie, arrived at Gwydyr House at a quarter before three o'clock. The Commissioners present were the Marquis of Lansdowne, the Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Colborne, the Right Hon. the Speaker of the House of Commons, Sir Robert Peel, Lord Mahon, the Right Hon. T. B. Macaulay, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Mr. Benjamin Hawes, M.P., Dar. Henry Hallam, Mr. Samuel Rogers, and Mr. Thomas Wyse, The meeting broke up at half-past four o'clock. Her Majesty, accompanied by the Prince of Wales and the Princess Royal, and attended by the Lady in Waiting, took an airing in a carriage and four yesterday afternoon. Colonel Arbuthnot, Equerry in Waiting, attended on horseback. The Queen had a dinner party yesterday, at Buckingham Palaee. The company included her Royal. Highness the Duchess of Kent, his Serene Highness Prince Ernest of Hesse Philippstahl, Sarim Effendi, Turkish Ambassador, and Monet Agop, Secretary, Interpreter of the Embassy; the Saxon Minister and the Baroness de Gersdorff; Lady Anna Maria DaWson, the Marquis and Marchioness of Douro, the Earl of Aberdeen, the Earl and Countess of Hadding - ton, the Countess Wratislaw, Lord George Lennox, and the Hon. and Rev. Charles Leslie Courtenay. Iter Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester has been slightly' during the last few days. Yesterday her Majesty the Queen Dowager, attended by the Hon. Misses Mitchell and Eden, paid a visit to her Royal Highness at Gloucester House. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent left her resi dence, Frogmorellouse, shortly before three o'clock yester day afternoon, for town, and arrived at Clarence House, St. James's, at five o'clock, attended by Lady Anna Maria Daw son, Countess W ratislaw, and Sir George Couper. Her Majesty the Queen Dowager visited the Princess Sophia yesterday at Kensington. The Grand Duchess Stephanie of Baden.—Her Royal Highness, attended by the Baroness de Strumfeder and Baron Roth de Schreckenstein, visited the Bank of England yester day forenoon. The Chevalier Bunsen, Prussian Minister, accompanied the Grand Duchess during her inspection of the different departments and offices. Her Royal Highness and suite afterwards partook of a dejeunt. In the afternoon the Grand Duchess, attended by the Baroness de Strumfeder, visited her Majesty the Quee n Dowager at Marlborough House. The Commissioners for the Reduction of the National Debt had a meeting yesterday at the Treasury. The Chan cellor of the Exchequer, the Governor of the Bank of Eng land, and the Deputy Governor, were present. Mr. Higham, Secretary and Comptroller General, was in attendance. His Excellency M. Dedel had an interview with Lord Aberdeen yesterday at the Foreign-office. Mr. John Wood, Chairman of the Excise, had an interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday. Dispatches for the Governor-General of Canada and for the Governors of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia were sent off yesterday evening from the Colonial-office. The Duchess Dowager of Cleveland has arrived at her re sidence in Seymour-place for the season, from her seat Newton House, Yorkshire. MAIDS OF HONOUR, A TALE OF THE COURT OF GEORGE L—This work is exciting considerable atten tion. Besides affording us (observes the New Monthly Magazine) a view of almost all the celebrated characters of the period, the work 'introduces us to the scenes in which they flourished. At Court we are taken to the levee, to the state ball, to the King's musical parties, to his Majesty's curious interviews with his mistresses, to the King's Cabinet, to the private apartments of the Prince and Princess of Wales, to the pleasant company in Mrs. Howard's room, to the love-making going on in the apartments of the maids of honour, to the Arcadian amusements at llampten Court, and to behold various `her glimpses of Palace life. Besides which, we enter d m , .^:shionable chocolate-houses, participate in one of the evie ,:sals of the Hell-fire Club, and stop at a certain . jr ,,,.:kenham to see Pope declaring his pas sion villa at for the seducc y.' Lady Mary Wortley Montague. More `ratall the assignations, elopements , over we are p rep,,: con ,:arences, and con fi dences, in which abductions, duels, and aro thus enabled the maids of honour are ca.:ncern ed, antry, sentiment, and to enjoy as varied a dish o; gallantry, the reader in the shape humour, as ever was preaeatectte: of three volumes_ ROYAL S URR EY ZOOLOGICAL G.46l.2 ) m. — T his fa* not fort with h its v oured place of amusement wil l shortl y a ttractions for the season. We have been twlN:ured a view of the works, so nearly , nt arrived a t con i l ;2etion, and could scarce believe our eyes--neW and eleg* erections in every part, and the entire eorepletelY renal' vated and decorated. . On Thursday morning , -between two- end threo o'clock, a fi re broke out on the premises .of Biwa:Church. Tack field, wholesale watc h manufacturer, No. 7, street, Spitalfields, which was not subdiNti Wail Ong. derable property had been destroyed.