The Sun. — London, England, 1850-08-10 00:00:00

LONDON" AND SOUTH-WESTERN RAILWAY. The usual ktlf-yearly .general meeting of the pro ptiptors t,f the Soutn-Western railway was held yes terday, at the Nine Eft s Station; Mr. Chaplin, M.P., chairman of the board of directors, in the chair. -The advertisement convening the meeting and the minutes of the previous, meeting having been read, the cowmen seal of the company was affixed to the register of shareholders. The SECRETARY (Mr. Wyndham Harding) then read the report, which statad that the net revenue for the balf-year ending Jun t ootn, 1850, amounted, after de ducting interest on ns, and all oth.r preferential charges to. ..• ••• X97.91`3 16 7 The surplus, from 1.);.c. 31, 1849, to ... 3,083 17 3 The balance appliclble to diritiond, therefore,. was ,„ £100,996 13 10 From which the directors recommended that a dividend for the half-year, at the rate of 3 per cent. per annum, should be declared, amounting on 6,608,4811. 103., to ". 99,127 4 5 Leaving to be carried over to the next half-year ... £1,869 9 5 The general result was that the net revenue of the cowpony was better than in the corresponding half-year of 1849, by 8,676/. This however arose in a great measure from eeocomy in the working exr entes, fur the gross revenue did not exceed by this amount that in 149, notwithstanding that twenty-three more miles if railway are now open for traffic. The saving in working expenses this half-year as compared with the corn.- eponding period in 1849 was 8,7241.: the saving for the last half-year in 1349 compared with the corresponding period in 1848 was 8,3541. The working expenses for the year ending June 30, 1850, bad taus been reduced by 17,0781., notwithstanding that the average mileage of - railway in work had been greater by upwards of twenty miles. This result was in itself satisfactory, but that the receipts of this railway during the last half-year, should have increased so little, comparatively with the same period in 1849, was a source of disappointment. With regard to capital, the amount expended on the oviginal•line, viz , 34241, principally consists of the out lay on- the- new engine sheds at Nine Elms and South ampton, now completed; an addition to former premises, •and required for the protectien of the additional stock need on recently opened extensions. The amount ex pended under the bead of plant, 8,9881., includes sums spent in the construction of five engines, of twenty third class carriages, and of eighteen waggons for the branch lines. These are altogether in addition to the n ; present stock, and after the five engines now in course of eonstruction are completed, all which nosy hereafter be constructed, will be considered as in substi ' tution of those worn out, and be charged to revenue, as has always been the- custom on this line in regard to ar tiales of carrying stock so substituted. The expendi -tura under both these heads was provided for in the eitimatee of liabilities, and of additional expenditure on capital account :presented in February last. These esti metes (including a sum of 117,416/., which it was stated •that the surplus property of the eonspany, in houses, land, .and. rails, would, as realised, ewer) amounted to 640,8501 There-hal been expended in reduction of this during the last half-year, 172.1091. In pursuance of the request contained in the resolutions passed at the last general .meeting e the directors have conferred with the committee of audit, appointed on the 28th November, 1849, on those • points referred to in the report of that committee which did not relate specially to the question of audit,—some •of the suggestions made have been adopted, with or without modifications, and among the alterations in the bye-laws whiCh will be submitted to the present meeting, • are some which are intended- to give effect to such sug gestions. The stores' committee have reported that it would be desirable that instead of insuring the property of the company against fire at the public offices, at an annual eipence of 1.200/., a sum of 8001. per annum for three years, and afterwards of 6001. per annum, should be laid aside to -farm a sum out of which losses by fire might be • met. The report et* the committee which will be laid be f ere the met ting will explain the reasons for recommend ing this course, and a resolution upon it will be submitted . to the proprietors for their approval of the plan, if they see fit to accord it. At the last half-yearly meeting, the direc . tors reported that they trusted thet an arrangement would be concluded between the Bristol and Exeter and Exeter and Crediten Companies, under which the Exeter and Creditou line might be brought into work. The direc tors assented to the line being worked by the Bristol and Exeter Company on the broad gauze, at a rent of only • one-third of the gross receipts; the Bristol and Exeter Company thus retaining two-thirds of the whole receipts • on the branch, which would also act as a feeder to their own 'line. This proposition was agreed to by both boards; . but it bas not been carried into effect, owing to n'priint having been raised by the Bristol and Exeter Company, in the wording of the memorandum of agree ment. Out of the annual sum of 3001. per annum, voted bynhe proprietors fsr benevolent purposes in connexion with the establishment of the company, the directors stated at the last half-yearly meeting that they had contributed to the friendly society for the relief of men in sickness, a , :*ihe rate of 1501. per annum. An institution, to in • etude a lending :library and reading room, with lectures .and- evening classes, has lately been organized by the itiedn 'toilette directors consider that they will be act• - in* id e accordenct with the intentions of the proprietors i they cOntribtife'frotn. the bslince in hand of the hene v,olent fund 100/, for the purchase of books, and 301. a year towarit toe curre-nt expenses of the institution; tints. therefore, they propose to do. The powers for con sisucting the exreielon to London-bridge have expired. Tee directors hav aeec.rdingly given instructions fur the Sate.of the propeteiss purchased by the company for this setter' ion, in order ;hat the proceeds may be applied to the reduction of the capital expenditure." • ,The ClieleStAN, in moving the ,adoptien of the report, Ini& he bored the report would h I found satisfactory. ' As etch sticceetieg half-year produced an improved state • meut of the tinateial position of the company, it was hardly nece..sary tor the Cheirttal to detain the pro prietors witu any lsnettisned observations; hut there etere.une, or two points which called for remark on this • C,f4 aa La p , as. they appeered to have given rise to some misapprehension out. of doors. The first of these points was_ the expenditure of money out of capital, and its application to tt.e purposes of the main line. That line , had now been in operation some ten years, and it was - thought ,by some shareholders that . with respect to it the capital account ought long since to have been closed.—(Hear, hear.) It - aboithl. be remembered, ho ever, that the original line . was only some, 80 odd miles in length, involving the . use of some 40 cugines, while now trie length of line extended to upwards ut 240 miles, and the numbersaf loco . motives in work had increased to 114. The money there epee charged to capital this half-year was not for works . reguiren by the original line, but for buildings, stock, and cainveutexices on ;lie br&neht e, .and be could assure the. proprietors that so fur as the original line was con ceirued, the cepital account nas virtually closed. The next point which had (mused come discussion on the Stick Exchange was the London•bridge Extea sloe, sad ,the extent of property which the • directors had purchased, or undertaken to purchase, in anticipation of that short line being eventually made. • Now it was said tha% they had purchased some 10,0001 ur Os of property near to London-bridge, but when that • property came to be resold, it would be tound that very little lees would result from that transaction. It had been reperted that the huildiegs which Alderman Humphery . was.e,recf.ng et London-bridge were being paid for out of the funds of this company. Now nothing could be farther from the truth. Alderman Huntiobery had not Tint . ived one penny from the directors, in fact, had the directors expeilded a traction on the premises in ques t tion.— (Hear, hear.) I; weuitl be remembered that at a former. meeting the liabilities were estimated at 610 8501 Siren then 172,109/ of That earn. had been ex i eteled. These were the points which he had thought . necessary to lay before lbe meeting, and it only remained fir him to trust that the explana tion he hs I given would prove satisfactory.—(Hear, hear.) At meetings lilts this it was usual fur the Chairinan to shadow forth what he considered would be the future prospects of the undertaking; but when he remembered that they had been working upwards of twenty miles of additional line this halt-year, he felt that all the poetry, and imagination which formerly buoyed him ap was completely knocked out of him.—(Hear and et laugh.) He would,, therefore, abstain from indulging in prophecy; indeed, it was now out of his power to do so; but he thought he could safely say that they had got ,over the worst.—(Cries of " No, no.") Well, that was his own opinion, and as there was every reason to believe that the working expenses, and the cost of main tenance of way, were likely to be still further reduced, he hoped .the shareholders would continue to have con fidence in the direstiore and approve of their proceed iegs.—(llear, hear.) Lord MoRLEY secondeinhe motion for the adoption of the report. A PROPRIETOR wished to know in what position this company stood in reference to the seven miles of the Reading, Guildfird, and Reigate line. The CHAIRMAN said the agreement with the South. Eastern Cowpony, by which they were to receive 35 p ee cent. of the traffic passing over that seven miles, was not yet completed. The money, therefore, which the direc tors had received in respect of that line, still remained in the hands of the bankers at Guildford, and no credit bed been taken for it, . Ms . ..LOCKE said the explanation of the Chairman con vinced him of the danger of sending out accounts without comment and remark. Accounts when they were sent . out without a report ought to be dissected, and each item of expenditure charged to the particular branch or sta . tape on which the expenditure had taken place. None of the moneys charged to capital this half-year had been expended either on the original line or anything in the shape of engineering works. The CHAIRMAN said the ledger, which was open to any shareholder, wool 1 aft end such an explanation. There the shareholders would find the expenditure of each lino or branch hip; distinct and separate. Mr. LOCKE insisted that that fact was an additional reason by the accounts which were sent out should be divided into distinct heads, and as the London and North-Western and ether companies followed that course, he should en we a resolution to the effect that the accounts be made up in the same way.—(Hear, hear.) He should also move that an estimate of the value of the land be made, and of' the weight of the rails, cha'ns, &c., not yet used.—(Hear, hear.) The CMAIRMA.N could see no obj tenon to the adoption of the course suggested by the Hon. Proprietor. Mr. KAY, of Maticsener, was ready to second Mr. •Locke's re-solutions an.l point out that if the report were sent round to the st arrhelders with the accounts a good de 11114apprehen ton and discussion would be obvi , Ile/led to brow how it was that the directors • e tee4ed so large a dividend when the net profit. c )se belt-year had not yielded mor e —4ll etr, hear.) Now, he had one or een \OM as to the directors. In the Brat .entice,- 11t neekeatiti-Fai there for keeping up I) large -- • / 'ir ---- 11149 ./ ._::"'".... ' iss----v 1..., \....______.„,. a beard of diiitetors? Why could it not be reduced by • at least one-thin k The offices, too, of architect and solicitirr.m.ight be stfely dispensed with, while the offices of secretary and treasurer might be as safely filled by ono and the same person:. Lord MORTON said it 41d have been perfectly im possible to issue the present report with the accounts. The accounts were not audited till the 30th of July, and therefore the directors had only seven or eight days to prepare their report. Besides, if they were to send out the report with the accounts he was very much afraid 6 that but a very few of the shareholders would attend the meeting.—(Hear.) Mr. Sergeant GASELEE did not think so. The Brigh ton Company, whose line was the best managed in the kingdom, printed their report with the accounts, and yet they always had a very full attendance at their meet ing.—(Hear, hear.) The fact, however, was that the report which they were now called upon to adopt con tained nothing more than every one of them knew before they entered the room.—(Hear.) He wished to know who was to suffer the loss of the 2,0001., the amount of ore of their clerk's defalcations? The report wail so mea,gie and unsatisfactory that he could not adopt it; and whatever the directors might say about the vote of confidence which a packed meeting passed to them, Le still maintained that they were wholly incom petent to manage the affairs of this great concern.— (Hear, bear.) He wished to know if the per-tentage to be given to the officers was to be shared in by the di rectors, and whether a preference had ben given to a particular firm in reference to carting.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HOYES said the auditors had mailing to do with fixin:z the amount of dividend, but the directors did not determine the amount till after the auditors had sent in their statements, including, of course, the balance carried over last half-year. He agreed with Mr. Locke, that in making up the capital account, each branch and line should be kOpt distinct. With regard to the 172,000/. which had been expended on capital account this half-year, the esti mate had only been exceeded by 3,000/, and lithe whole of the 640,0004 of estimated liabilities were not exceeded by more than ten per cent. the proprietors would have no cause to complain. If the shareholders were disposed to appoint any one to act for them the auditors would satisfy him that the accounts were satisfactorily cor rect, and thet there had been no misappropriation of either capital or revenue. He was convinced that the more the shareholders looked into the accounts the more they would be satisfied that they were strictly correct.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. PIINCHARD said the vote of confidence passed at tan last meeting was carried by the directors placing the officer at the bottom of the room to put down those who were opposed to the board. Lord MoBLEY said there was not a word of troth in that statement, and he therefore called upon Mr. Pun chard to withdraw ire —(Cheers.) Mr. PCNCHARD declined to do so, and went on to de clare that the line could be worked by 25 per cent. The working staff could be reduced a third without affecting its efficiency. He moved for a return of the names and occupations of all persons in the receipt of yearly and weekly salaries from the company.—(Oh, oh.) No one, however, seconded the motion, and it conse quently fe ll_ to the ground. The Csaitemo, in reply to. further questions, stated that no more money would be expended upon tbe Lon don-bridge Extension than what was imperatively neces sary. It was not, the intention of the board to decrease their number. They had no longer a chief engineer, while the architect had almost worked himself out of their service. The legal expenses of the half-year amounted to about 7001., and it was intended to appoint a salaried law clerk. _ _ _ Mr. BARER laid it was in the goods traffic that this line suffered. While on every metropolitan line, except the Blackwell, the goods traffic had increased, that on this line had decreased, and so long as Mr. Chaplin remained chairman this company would never prosper in its_ goods traffic.—(Hear, hear.) He should be glad to know the resultoF the cheap trains' system, and while he asked for that information, he must express a hope that before the Exhibition of 1851 the directors would have satisfied themselves that it was successful, or dis continue it.—(Hear.) The CHAIRMAN said the directors would be always open to suggestions from the shareholders, upon points connected with the management of the line. Mr. PuttcHAED—Will you receive a suggestion from me. sir ? The CHAIRMAN—I have already told you so per sonally. Mr. PIINCHARD—WeII, I think I can make a sugges tion that will s a ve ycu 50,0001—(Roars of laughter.) The CHAIRMAN explained, in reply to Mr. Baker, that the line obtained all the goods traffic which the districts through which it passed produced. The firm of Chaplain and Horne had nothing to do with the goods traffic; they had never been carriers on the line, and were only agents for the receipt and collection of goods. In the course of the autumn the directors con templated calling the shareholders together to decide what projected lines, which bad already been sanctioned by the Legislature, should be abandoned in the event of the Railways Abandonment Bill becom ing law. _ _ Mr. SMITU and Lord MORLEY said the directors had fully examined the agency question, and they were of opinion that the agency could not be changed with any a ivant Ige to the cnropsny. Mr. UZIELLI, another d►rector, in reply to a question, stated that yesterday the company borrowed money at 3} per cent. The unpAid calls now due amounted to about 60.0001., but the holders were perfectly solvent. Mr. TITE asked when the contract on the Farehm and Gosport lit.e was likely to close. It involved an ex penditure of 27,000/, a yeah The CHAIR.MAN said all the contracts for the maintc- nance of way would close on the lit of Dec. next. The moti , n for the adoption of the report was agreed to. The resolutions moved as amendments were pre viously withdrawn. The dividend was then declared payable on the 26th instant. Tae otIlf:r matters referred to in the report were then disposed ot. The forfeiture of the shares upon which the calls were in arrear was postponed till a future meeting. Thanks were then voted to the Chairman, and the meeting, which wns numerously attended and protracted to a late hour, broke up. MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (Frow the London New Price Current, Aug. 9.) SUGAR. To-day the demand was good for West India, both for the pan and scale, whilst rather higher rates were obtained, making an advance for the week of '6.1, and in some cases is per cwt. Tne purchases are 752 hhds, &c., including at auction 43 hhds 3 tierces, and 172 barrel's Barbadoes, which sold, fine yellow at 40s 6d to 42s 6d. low to good 35s 6d to 393 61, one lot brown 345, 10 barrels Kitt's•low and middling yel low 35s to 375; 2 hbds 20 barrels Antigua good brown 34s 6.1, ord and rnidd yellow 353 to 375, and 39 tierces of Jamaica, good yellow 38i to 393, and midd 36s to 36's 6d per cAt. 1114:FINED.—To-day refined goods wero in excellent demand for home trade purposes; and fair to good gro cery lumps realised 50s to 525. The market is firm for crushed Sugar at farmer rates. _ _ MAIIIIITIUS.—This afternoon the demand was active fur Mauritius Sugar. and an advance of 6d per cwt took pia•:e. At auction 1863 bags sold; good and fine yellow at 37s 6d to 394 Gd, low to mid 35s to 375, good and fine brown 33s to 34s 6:1, and inferior at 29s to 31W. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon the public sales of 4,733 bags of Bengal Sugar went briskly at 6d per cwt ad vance; midd to gond white Benares realised 39s to 41s, low 381 to 38s 6d, ord to good soft yellow 32s 6d to 355, better sorts 36s to 375, good and fine dry yellow 40s to 42s sa per cwt. FOREIGN.—The market has still an improving appear ance and a very favourable opinion is entertained as to future events in connexion with foreign Sugar. There has again been an axtensive demand here for yellow vannah from exporters, and 6d advance ha; been paid. The full operations amount to 15,000 chests at from 20s to 23s for low to fine quality. 200 chats Bahia white 2186 d, brown 188 6d. At suction 494 boxes of white .Elavannsh sold, good to fine at 31s to 33s 6d, mid 29a te 335, and washed 28s to 28s 6d per cwt. Ia other descriptions sales to a fair ext,nt were made, and the prices paid were rather above Friday last. For refining under bond a good demand has existed this week. At auction 511 hhds, 197 barrels Porto Rico were disposed of, fine yellow at 41s to 41s 6d, good. 39s to 40s 6d, low and mid 363 to 385 6d, brown 34s 6d to 35s 6d; 1,042 chests yellow Bavannab, fine 40s to 425, mid and good 38s 6d to 39s 6d, low 37s 6d to 38s, washed 36s to 40s, and two small lots very ordinary brown 345; -199 cases, 40 hxs, 122 bgs Bahia in part sold, low to fine brown 32s to 365, yellow 36s 6d to 37s 6d, and low white 38s to 40s per cwt. Of Manilla 10,000 bags were sold privately at 35s 61 to 36s 6d. MOLASSES.—Prices are not higher for West India, still purchases to a fair extent have been made—Antigun realised 15s, St. Vincent's and Trinidad 133 to 148 per cwt. East' India is only worth lls to 12s, but demand is getting better, and supply is on the increase. COYFEE.—Tu-day there was mach dullness in the Coffee market, and 408 6d to 41s is the value of good ord Native Ceylon. At auction 591 brls and 27 bags Porto Rico were taken in at 45s 6d to 49s for good fine ordinary. and 200 bags Java were withdrawn. The only public sale of Coffee at present declared for next week is pee c te c d co t o A...... be i an ,re n . v o i u o n u ced s tcr p m ri s or a t r o e th r i i t q t utiimreed for Foreign, . 1,000 bgs B a hi a; b ut several parcels of Ceylon are ex but at the same time little desire is evinced to do busi ness. At auction 93 bags Bahia were taken-in at 28s 6d for red. adders of West India still have confidence, and refrained from 'submitting any to public sale. Ope- - rations have been to a fair extent by private treaty. Red Trinidad at 42s to 475, grey 39s to 43; and Grenada" from 38s to 468 per cwt. TEA.—Tbe advanced rates of last week are well sup.. ported for ordinary and medium sorts of Congou; opera tions are also upon a large scale at 11d to Is 2d per lb, increased. A fair business hats been transacted in good and fine at 1s 2d to is Bd, and the market is firm. Breen Tea continues to meet with much attention, and late terms are well kept up, more especially fur the lower sorts. Scented and Pekoe Teas realised stiff rases, and met with a g ood sale. On Tuesday 4,400 pkgs of Tea were offered at auction, and 800 sold. To day the public sales of Tea went with fair spirit, and of 3,269 pkgs offered 1,280 sold at firm rates. SPIRITS.—In Jamaica Rum sales have been upon a large scale, at rather higher rates. The purchases are 300 puns, plain quality 31 to 36 over at 2s 6d to 2s Bd, 33 to 35 over better sort 3s to 3s 43, 34 to 38 over fine 3s 6d to 4s; East India met with a good demand, and 500 puns sold at is 3d to is 3kel proof. Leeward met with more attention, and the sales are 200 puts at is 4id to is 5d proof. Of Deme rara several Parcels acre sold at 2s to.2a 3d for 30 to 40 over proof. A Government contract for 100,000 galls -Edel iteeleolared tor -next Vlanradar. .Brandy. bp. bell in good demand, and the market is firm. Cognac best brands of the vintage of 1848 at 4s 7d to 4s 9d, and 1849 ditto 4s 6d to 4s Bd. In other Spirits there is no change. RlCE.—There is no advance to notice in prices of East India, but holders have displayed firmness, and refrained from submitting any to public sale. Since Wednesday a good demand bas been experienced, and 10,000 bags have been sold at full terms. The value of middling to fine white Bengal is 9s 6d to I Is 6d,Msdras 94 to 9s 6d, cargo and pearl barley 8s 3d to 8s 6d. To-day the private sales of East India Rice were 5,000 bags at 3d advance, and shippers are the chief buyers. At public sale to-day 224 cases small pearl Sago were sold at 20s 6d for fair quality, damaged at Its to 16s; 120 bags Sago Flour went at 17s 6d to 18s for sound; 152 cases Bombay Arrowroot 2d to 2,1 d per lb; 50 puns Tapioca sicl per lb. SPICES —To-day at public sale 2,284 bags of Penang Pepper sold at *I to 3d for good light greyish, end at 2d to 2fr i for damaged; 45 bags white, good midd 61d to 7d; 302 bags Bombay Ginger 25s to 293, 362 bags African 32s 6d to 335; 125 boxes Cayenne Pepper, damaged 2d to 8d; 192 cases Penang Cloves Is to is 31d, very low 8d to I Id; 76 packages of Nutmegs 2s 2d to 3s; 15 cases Mace 2s 2d to 2s 4d. INDIGO.—The rates obtained for East India are equal to last week, and in some cases rather above ; there is still a good home and export demand, whilst on the part of merchants firmness is apparent. Prices are unaltered for Spanish, and at auction 25 corona went at from 2s 10i to 4s 2d. COCHINEAL.—To-day the public sales of 346 bags of Cochineal went at a reduction of 2d for black. and Id fir Silvers, the chief part sold; ord to fine black Hon duras at 3s 9d to 54 2d, Silvers 3s 6d to 3s lod, fine and superior 3s I Id to 4s 4d, Mexican Silvers 3s 7d to 3s Bd, black midd to good 3s 8d to 3$ 9d, and 24 bags Tene rife small dark Silvers taken in at 3s 8d to 3s 9d. TALLOW.—This afternoon at public sale 514 pkgs South American Tallow went at 32s 6d to 36s 6d, 425 casks Sydney 33s to 35s 6d, 61 casks Odessa 35s 6d. OILS.—To-day at public sale 35 tuns fine Sperm Oil sold at 831 15s to 841 10s, 200 tuns Southern 32/ 108 to 331. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. THE FRENCH AND ENGLISH FLEETS IN THE MEDITERRANEAN. The following is given as the comparative strength of the French and English fleets in the Mediterranean:= English. French. Caledonia Queen 116: Va'my Powerful ... 84 Jemappe Ganges Superb ' ' 80 Jena Bellerophon ... .78 Jupiter 9O Inflexible Steamers. Steamers. Hogue (screw) 6O Magellin Terrible 2l Descartes . Firebrand ' 6 Cacique l4 Scourge 6 Darien • 12 Growler 6 Caton Spiteful The French ships enumerated above form the fleet, ordered to Cherbouig to be reviewed by the President of the French Republic. Another division, however, will remain in the Mediterranean and at Cherbourg. It is stated the fleet will be reinforced by one or two other line-of-baitle ships. The sea-going ships at present in the English home ports are— Trafalgar Albion ' 90 Devonport. Vengeance B4 Portsmouth. Fox ' 42 Portsmouth, for the East Indies. Thetis BB Devonport, Trincomalee Dauntless Retribution 22 Portsmouth. Dragon _ _._ Niger coast of Africa. Inflexible 6 Sheerness, for the West Indies. Salamander 6 Devonport, for the East Indio!. But the line-of-battle ships are only advanced commis sioned ships, and have only a couple of hundred marines on board of each, and about 150 officers and blue jackets. The others are fitting for foreign stations, or for the exercising squadron. APPOINTMENTS. Lieut. G. A. Willes (1844), son of the late Captain of the Vanguard, 80, and who ably commanded the Spit fire, steam•vessel, in the Mediterranean, has been ap pointed first-lieutenant to the Retribution steam-frigate, at Portsmouth, and joined his ship yesterday. Lieut. J. S. Darell (1846) has also been appointed to thelietribution. Mr. Moriarty, who was appointed master of the Dra gon, 6, steam-frigate, has been transferred to the Retri bution, and Mr. Francis Edington (1841) has been ap pointed to the Dragon, vice Moriarty. Chief Engineers—Alexander Langlands, to Dauntless rerew-frigate. Portsmouth; Edward Cassey, to Retribu tion, steam-frigate, Portsmouth. Assistant Engineers—James Taylor, E. Deely, John Saunders, C. H. Houghton, C. R. Chamberlain, and St. George C. Davis, to the Dauntless; W. M. Jones, An drew M'Farlane (second), G. IL Hewlett, Samuel Ste vens, to the Retribution. The following gentlemen passed for gunnery on board the Excellent, on Thursday morning:—Lieut.Jones. late of her Majesty's ship Howe; Lieut. Majendie, late Ven geance; Messrs. Campbell, Green, Gray, Pearson, and Blakiston, late Howe; Dalison, late Excellent; Pechell, late Amphitrite. Lieut. Jones and Mr. Pearson ob tained the full numbers, end all the other gentlemen re ceivrd first-class certificates. (SHOT PRACTICE FROM THE EXCELLENT.—Captain Milne, from the Admiralty, arrived at Portsmouth cn Thursday morning, and was empoljed on official busi ness in the dockyard on Thursday and yesterday. lie went on heard tae Excellent on Thursday, is witness some shot and shell practice at the new butts, under the superit.tendence of Captain Chads. A number of per cussion shells invented oy Captain Moorsom, and other concussion shells invented by Mr. Moore, of the Artil lery, that have been recently tested at Woolwich, were also thrown at the new wood butts, at the distance of 500' and 830 yards. The iron butt with the timber sheathing outside the iron was also fired at yesterday, as we before stated—the oak sheathing plank is three, four, and six inches in thickness. Three shots were fired yesterday—two solid 32-pounders, and one 8-inch hollow shot. We understand the planking had not the desired effect of preventing the shot from breaking to pieces, and the hollow shot was completely smashed. Further practice took place to-day; but we have not heard the result. The shells were very correct in their trusting and the practice is correct. MELANCHOLY ACClDENT.—Yesterday morning, about eight o'clock, Mr. John Wilson Rogers (grandson of Mr. W ilson, late draughtsman at Somerset House), a clerk in the storekeeker s-office at Woolwich-yard, was pro ceeding down the river in a boat, when it upset, and he was unfortunately drowned. The waterman was picked up by the boat of .the Trinity, dredging vessel, lying below Barking Creek. The unfortunate young gentle man was about nineteen years of age, and very much respected in the yard. The rotary engine, upon Captain the Hon. W. E. Fitzmaurice's plan, recently under trial at Woolwich, is to be sent to Deptf )rd.. By the death of Lieutenant Harris, agent of the Prin cess Royal transport, an aut-pensioner of Greenwich Hospital has beOdme vacant. Apollo troop-ship, Commander Rawstorne, is being surveyed at Portsmouth. She will be refitted, and will resume her services as a troop-ship. There are no orders for paying off. Camel lighter, Faber master, has returned to Devon port -IfOra Lone, . after laying down moorings at that port.' ' Perseus, Lient.-Commander Greet, was paid off at Deptford yesterday; and the Crocodile is to be commis sioned t& day by Lieut. Greet. Princess Alice, Dover steam-packet, is to have her iron bottom coated with Mr. Hay's composition. Tiger steamer has been fitted with her engines at Deptford, by Messrs. Penn, and will proceed to Chatham on Monday. • Tortoise lighter arrived at Woolwich yesterday af ternoon from Holyhead and Devonport. Victoria and Albert royal yacht, Captain Lord A. Fitzclarence, returned tqPartsmouth from Osborne yes- - terday afternoon, and will remain till Monday, when she returns to Cowes Roads. DEVONPORT, AUG. B.—Our annual rowing regatta was to have come off yesterday. The morning was floe, and a good day was anticipated, every preparation made, and the sport actually commenced, when it came on to rain, which continued all day and entirely put a stop to all. Bills were printed stating that it was-to coma off on the first fine day; a flag was to be hoisted on the column, and the sport was to commence at one P.M. this day; but there has been no chance, as it has been hard rain all day. PORTSMOUTH, FRIDAY..--The Britannia, 120, adianced slip, had her main and mizen masts stepped to-day. As soon as the Admiralty minute was promulgated here relative to the award of the privilege of the ward room to assistant•surgeons, Captain Sir Henry Black wood, of her Majesty's ship Vengeance issued an order that the assistant-surgeons of the Vengeance should take their seats in the ward-room. RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. • BRISTOL. AUG. 9. STOCK EXCHANGE. —The market does not show any improvement to-day, either as regards the amount of business done or the prices, which still have a tendency to fall. The transactions were principally confined to , Great Western and Bristol and Exeter, without any alteration in prices. LIVERPOOL, AUG. 9. arms EXCITANGE.—There was a moderate business done to-day, and prices were firm. The transactions were as fol low Lancashire and Yorkshire, Fifths, 9 7-16 dis. London and North-Western, 1114 c —Ditto, New Quarters, p.—Ditto Fifths, 1 p.—Ditto, Quarters (C), 1 1 / 8 p.— Midland, 33 3 / 4 —Ditto, Halves, 24 1 ,4 din—Shrewsbury and Chester (oswestry and Chester), 61,x — . South-Eastern and Dover. (No. 4), Registered, 4 3 / I —Ditto, Thirds, s—York and 'North Midland, 16 1 ,4—York, Newcastle, and Berwick (G. N.E. Purchase), 6 per cent. till 1850, 5 dis —Bolton, Blackburn, Clitheroe. and West Yorkshire (No 1), 4. MANCHESTER, Auo. 9. STOCK EKCIIANOK.—The share market to-day was very dull, and prices were rather weaker. i — ce T s h a e re s r h a a th re er m de a p rk re e s t se w d. as dull and in- BIRMINGHAM, Auci. 9. act S i T yrto- E da Xil a n d ib ; Lr. RUSSIAN GIIAIN.-A vessel belonging to Meek lenburgh, which has just arrived from Riga, has brought /5,000 quarters of oats, the produce of Russia. This cargo of oats, whizh is admissible for home use under the repealed navigation laws, is probably the largest which has ever been brought on one occasion from foreign countries. -MARSALA WINE.—A vessel arrived in the docks from Marsala, has brought the following large quantity of this description of wine, preferred by some as a light dinner wine, viz., 114 pipes, 130 ' hogsheads, and 418 smaller casks, besides other 'articles, the firoductioa of the place. 3 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, August 9. The LORD CHANCELLOR t)Ok his seat on the Woolsack at Fivo o'clock. TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE (No. 2) BILL. On the motion of the Earl of GRANVILLE, this Bill was read a second time. FISHERIES BILL. This Bill passed through Committee. PORTLAND HARBOUR BILL. The Earl of CARLISLE moved the second reading of this Bill. Lord REDESDALE objected to the motion. The Bill was, in fact, an Estate Bill; several persons were desirous of opposing it before Committee, and it ought to Lys treated as a private Bill. He hoped it would be per mitted to stand over. The Earl of CARLISLE hoped that their Lordships would not delay the progress of this measure, which was most important. All the parties interested had been already fully heard. The Bill was then rend a second time. DECREES IN COURT OF CHANCERY BILL. Oa the motion of Lord BROUGHAM. this Bill was read a second tim?. PAPERS. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid on the table the reports of the Registrar of Births, Deaths, and Mar riages, and of the Irish Poor-law Ceren3issi,ns. PRINCE OF WALES'S PROVISION BILL. This Bill was read a second time on the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE. LIVERPOOL PETITION FORGERIES. Lord MONTEAGLE moved that certain persons do attend at the bar on Monday next, in order to be ex amined.—Agreed to. BENEFICES AND PLURALITIES BILL. On the motion of the Earl of CARLISLE the Com mons' amendments to this Bill were considered. APPROPRIATION BILL. On the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, this Bill was read a second time. JUDICIAL BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.—CRI MINAL LAW, CONSOLIDATION. Lord BROUGHAM then proceeded, according to his notice, to call the attention of the House to this subject. lie ti thecommenced a history of the l a b ours o f t h e Cr i i vig m n inal Law from th e fir s t i ssu i ng o f himself in 1831 d own t o t h e p resent in review th e use f u l suggest i ons w hi c h tn commissionCommissionersHepassed as s by g they had made from time to time, and mentioned as a proof of their industry that they had digested the crimi nal law into one statute containing 800 or 900 different articles.• In the course of last summer the Commis sioners had completed their labours, and had pro duced another statute digesting all the rules and proceedings of the criminal ' course. This mag nificent work having been completed, it ap peared to Lord Lyndhurst, Lord Cottenbam, and him self that the true mode of passing this legislative code was not by sending these two Bills , containing from 1,500 to 2,000 articles, to the two Houses of Parliament to legislate upon—for no legislative power of either HOttse. separately, or of both Houses combined, would bo able to undertake such a mass of legislation—but by submitting them to another Commission well and care fully selected. It would be bad economy to allow the Commission to fall to the around after the country bad spent from 90,000/ to 100,0001. upon it; and he recom mended its continuance till the members of it had again revised the code which they had drawn up. He denied that the work of the Commission had been performed by the late Mr. Starkey, its secretary, and contended, on the strength of the answers which he had received to a circular which he had himself addressed to the Commis sioners, that, it was their work, and their work alone. It was too late in the day to advocate either the policy or the necessity of having a good digest of the law, which all were bound to obey, and instanced, at some length, the advantages which France bad derived from the code drawn up by the command and under the active superintendence of that wonderful genius the late Emperor Napoleon. He promised to bring the subject matter of this digest under the notice of the House early in the next session of Par liament. OFFICIAL SALARIES. The NOBLE and LEARNED LORD then proceeded to at tack the report recently made by a Select Committee of the House of Commons on official salaries. There were imperfections in every line of it. The savings which it recommended were utterly insignificant in a financial point of view. It trampled upon all considera tions of justice at home, and destroyed all our diplomatic relations abroad. What inf. rotation. the Comm tee;had got, where they bad got it, to what witnesses they bad resorted to enlighten the darkne.s of their understand ings, he could not by any possibility conceive. With regard to the redu ctions . to be made in the salaries of the judges of the High Court of Chancery, they had neither examined Lord Lyndhurst, Lord Cottenham, nor himself. They had passed over all the abuses of that court, and had made no reference to the salaries paid to its subordinate officers. He particularly objected to the. reduction of the salary of the Lord Chancellor to 8,000/. a-year, and of the Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas to 6,0001. a-year. Such a mass of contradiction, absurdity, and ignorance, he had never seen comprised in a single report. They recommended that the salary of the Judge-Advocate .should be reduced on the next appointment froin 2,0001. to 1,5001. a-year; but, as a makeweight, they recommended that the future holder of that office should not be debarred from the practice of his profession. Why, he was not debarred from it at present. The present holder of the office bad recently pleaded before him; and if Mr. S. Wortley had given up practising before the Judicial Privy Council whilst ho held it, it was only because he was himself a Privy Councillor. That gentleman, as Judge Advo eve, had as- much right as any of his professional brethren to practise in tho Courts of Queen's Bench, Common Pleas, Exchequer, and Chancery. He (Lord Brougham) objected to many other reductions recom mended by the Committee, and especially to the reduc tion of the salaries of the Masters in Chancery to 2,0001. a year. He had himself reduced them from 5,0001. a year,:to which their salanes, with fees, in some instances, formerly amounted, to 2,500/. a year; and below that sum he • was sot prepared to go. Some three or four years ago their number had been reduced by not filling up two vacancies which occurred ; but now, owing to the Winding-up Act, they were overwhelmed with work; and their numbers ought to be increased. He had, by means of a connexion of his own, some in sight into the amount of labour they performed; and he would say that eighteen hours a day would net enable them to get through it. Ile then reverted once more to the miserable saving proposed in the reduction of the salaries of the Lord Chancellor and the Chief Justice of the Common Pleas. His Noble and Learned Friend on the Woolsack was, he supposed, to have only 8,0001. a year. Considering that he was entitled to that amount of salary as Lord Chief J us ti ce of the Common Pleas, he was surprised to find that his Noble and Learned Friend bad given up that salary, which he might have retained for life, for the same amount of salary in an office far more laborious, and from which he might be removed perhaps in the course of the next four or five months, it might be with, and it might be without, a retiring pension. Then, did the ignorant men who formed this Committee know the difference in the amount of the labour performed by the Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Common Pleas and the puisne judges of that court? The Chief Justice was to have 6,0001. a year ; the puisn e j u dg es 5,0001. All the judges of that court, the Chief Justice as well as the puisne, had to go circuit. But the Chief Justice besides that labour, had on the close of every term to go the 'Guildhall and Westminster circuit or sittings, which generally lasted two or three weeks after each. term. Anything more ignorant than this arrangement he could not conceive. Then how utterly ridiculous was the plan of cutting down all the diplomatic salaries and offices to the same size, All of them were to be abo lished, and a single mission at - some central point in Germany was to be substituted for the several missions now existing at Hanover, Dresden, Stuttgard, Munich, and Frankfurt. Nay, more, the mission at Florence was to 'be united with one of the Italian missions. He sup posed that the next proposal of this Committee would be that a mission should he sent to one of the peaks of the Andes, to superintend all our diplomatic relations with the States of South America. After some passing sar casms _at the German principalities, the N o bl e an d Learned Lord suddenly crossed the Atlantic, and said that it was one of the grossest of all pos sible delusions to suppose that these reductions could be defended by the example of the United Suites. The Government of the United States, considered as a whole, might be a cheap Govern ment, but then it should •he considered that, besides its expenditure, there was a heavy expenditure incurred in And defenyed_by_each state for its own domestic govern ment and administration. America was not a cheaply governed country, for each of the states swarmed with myriads of placelsolders. After several other remarks anything but eulogistic, on the institutions of our brethren in North America, the Noble and Learned Lord reminded the House that be had been all his life long an advocate for wise and well-considered measures of retrenchment and reform; but he could not allow their Lordships to part without entering his protest against the unwise, nay, he must say , the absurd propo sitions of this C omm ittee on oticial salaries. He hop e d that he should n e ver see the administration of justice poisoned at its source by measures which would render a seat on , the bench unworthy the acceptance of the best and- ablest and most experienced advocates at. the bar, posts t o being filled eitb r by m or e me n of en h of great qualifications without fortune, the by which sr onforthtleeier ddiopeloimhflautiecdazphoyintments of the country stripped t t h un ey e w wi e t r h e o s u p t p a o n id y te q d rli • other business. The House then proceed to THE POST-OFFICE. from Lord BROUGHAM, In answer to a question ARDE tated that the The Marquis of CLANRIC 5 appointed by the Treasur Committee which had been Commonsrelative t o the fications for off met t or three times, and when he hoped they would would meet again to morrow, to a report. be able fi nally to agree d u e p w on p t o b s e ta v l o a te rra o n f g t e h m e e H d o ts os h e ad o oWNE said it was highly • o f LikNS l) The Marquis d Scarcely a day had elapse s ince the new arrangements without complaints of inco nve nience, and in some cases owes had resulted. There the must cal a mitous cousenu oi Mr. Pike's murder in Ire land, and w h en , in consequence manQwas prevented from be ing present at the coroner's f desirable th at this matter s hould be satisfactorily settled. was the case th e other day the postal delay, the brother of th e unfortunate inq u est . T he su bj ect had been one of u nre mitting inquiry by the Committee, who he trusted would be able to p ro p ose a better arrange meat than the present. NS drew the attention of the The Earl of ST. GERM A d House to the debate that ha a l rea dy taken place upon the subject o f the Post-office appo intments. With re ference to the clerks of the Money Order Department of t y o be an imression that the Post-office, there appea red The Net was, that than he had represented it tu crasb,lnYee b ed.epssartnse.npt was better t u h n e til eo r n eo dit n i t o l n y onfotchleerpkroinbattiileonratroy long his services, could recc.:ye more than 701. a year. 13y a recent rtgulation 101. a year additional might be addrd after five years service, but beyond that there could be no augmentation. The otter point he would advert to had reference to the appointment of Mr. Far mer, from Edinburgh, to the head clerkship of the Money Order-office. From what the Noble Marquis had stated on a former occasion, it would be inferred that the other clerks in that office had been passed over on account of incompetence. That, however, could hardly be the case, since it had been represented to him that the vacant situation had been offered to three of the senior clerks in that office, if they would consent to retract certain state ments in a memorial to which they had attached their names. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE replied, that with regard to the first point, relative to the clerks in the probationary class, the Noble Earl was perfectly correct in his stateme Ir. With respect t.) the promotio❑ of Mr. Farmer, he could only say that no offer had ever been made, with his sanction, upon any conditions, to any clerk in the office, nor did he believe that Mr. Rowland Hill would have sanctioned such an offer. lle did not think that the promotion of Mr. Farmer could be sup posed t cast any di:crelit upon the clerks in the Money Order-office; but ho believed, under all the cir cumstane,-!s, that that gentleman was the best qualified to till the place. The matter then dropped. The Police Superannuation Fund Bill was read a e on d time. The Sumriviry Jurisdiction (Ireland) Dill, and tho Grand Jury Ceis (Ireland) Bill, severally went through Committee, and, the other Bills on rill table having been forwarded a stage, the louse adjourned until One o'clock to-morrow (dd., day). HOUSE OF COMMONS, August 8. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) CRIME AND OUTRAGES AC I' (IRELAND) CONTINUANCE (No. 2) Bill. On the motion that the House do resolve itself into Committee on this Bill, Mr. REYNOLDS moved that the Bill be committed this day three months, and, in doing so, said he did not intend to repeat anything which he had stated before, but merely wished to appeal to her Majesty's Government, after they had had another night for reflection, whether they really meant to persevere with the measure, and to inflict another gratuitous insult and injury on the country. He scarcely hoped to succeed, although he believed he - ought to succeed—(A. laugh)—because the accounts which had been received by the last post from Ireland corroborated what he had already declared, that peace and order prevailed throughout, the country. Some of the advocates of the Bill stated that the satisfactory state of Ireland was entirely owing to its operation. He did not believe any such thing, but he would like to know, if the Bill was passed on that ground, when the powers which it con ferred were to cease.—(Hear, hear.) If the order and peace which prevailed was assigned as a reason fur con tinuing the Bill, it might be assumed with good reason that it was to have a perpetual existence.—(hear.) When the Bill was introduced in 1847 they had a long list of crimes- and outrages, and they were told if the Bill - was , not passed, that , there would be an insurrection in Ireland. The Bill accordingly re ceived the sanction of the House for a period of three years and a half. It had now been three years in exist ence, and peace and good order bad been secured, and fie would ask the English and Scotch Members, who voted for the Bill in 1847, if they were pre pared to record their votes in favour of its continuance? Tbe . Bill, in his opinion, was unnecessary, unjust in principle, and . he was, therefore, bound to take the earliest opportunity to divide the House on the motion that the Speaker do leave the chair. Mr. G. THOMPSON opposed the Bill, which he said he had objected to when it was first introduced. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir G. Grey) could not have forgotten that, on the occasion of introducing the Crime and Outrages Bill, he used the significant words that the measure he then proposed was one merely in tended to lessen the amount of evil that had grown out of the then state of the relations between landlord and tenant, and that it would be the wish of the Govern ment to introduce such measures thenceforward al would be' calculated to remove the evils arising from that relationship.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Thompson) could not recollect a single measure which had since passed that House calculated to remedy those evils. Under those circumstances could he, as an English Member, vote with any party in that House in favour of the continuance of this most insulting Act P Had they not had it paraded even from the Throne itself, in the gracious speech of her Majesty herself, that she was received in Ireland with one universal burst of loyal feeling ? And did not the recent assizes in Ireland show that there was less of crime and outrage there than had been the case within the memory of man ? Why then, under these circumstances, were they called on to continue those 'most extraordinary, mot to say unconstitutional powers? Her Majesty's Government might have sufficient reason fur wishing this Bill to pass, but they had not condescended to assign any reason for passing it. The only reason assigned was that Ireland was now tranquil, and that tranquillity was owing to the exercise of .the extraordinary powers conferred on the Lord- Lieutenant by the Crime and Outrage Act. That was an argument that would do for all time and for any country; and it would justify the passing of a similar Act for this coutetry.—(Hear, hear.) He did say the time was now come to a ll ow that Act to expire, and for the House to show that they had some faith in the Irish people.—(Cheers.) The disaffection which gave ri e to the Crime and Outrage Act did not now exist.—(lltaar, hear.) The individuals that promoted it were not now in the country; and the press that fomented that dis. aff-ciion was utterly extinguished, or if not extin guished, had greatly modified its tone. He should support the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Rey - nolds) in the motion he had mad", and he asked the Members for Ireland on this occasion to do their duty.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr, Thompson) saw a state of things yestetday which was discreditable to the Irish Members. Out of 105 Irish Members, 33 only were within the walls of that House—(Hear, hear) —considerably less - than one-third of the entire repre sentation of that island, when a measure was under dis cussion affecting the enjoyment of constitutional govern ment in that country.—(Hear, hear.) He called on Irish Members to do their duty on this occasion; it was not even now too late for them to do so; and he trusted that the House would not give its sanction to so wanton an outrage on the constitutional liberties of the people of Ireland as was contemplated by this Bill. Mr. AGLIONBY had always taken a lively in terest in the. aff Ars of Ireland, and he felt he was acting as consistently as the liqn. Gentleman who had just sat down by giving his support to this Bill. It was only a measure of continuance for a time of an Act which hail worked most beneficially in repressing crime and out rage in Ireland. Mr. MOORE reminded the Hon. Gentleman (Jlr. George Thompson) that when the Irish Members made their first stand against this measure they had neither the voice not the vote of that Hon. Gentleman. Mr. G. THOMPSON explained that he was ill in bed on that occa s ion, or he would have been but too happy to have attended in his place to oppose the measure. Sir T. O'BRIEN believed in his conscience that this Bill was not called for in the present condition of Ireland. Mr. ANSTEY thought the conduct of the Hon. and Learned Member for (Jockermouth was most eatraordi• nary. He had always before voted along with the late Mr. O'Connell against coercion Bills, even where there was a much greater need of them than at pre sent, and now they found him supporting the whole plan of Government for oppressing Ireland, even when he acknowledged that he was perfectly ignorant of any circumstances which called for it. The real question at issue here was, whether the present state of the law was not sufficient to meet all the present cir cumstances of Ireland, and he contended that it was the duty of the Government to prove Chet it was not. He did not deny that there were murders in Ireland. but be did not think that there was anything which called for such strong measures. He did not doubt that the amendment would be lost, but be fur one would give it his general support. _ _ _ Sir GEORGE GREY said, that though the opposi tion to this Bill had been very great, he must say that the Honourable Member for the Tower Hamlets bad been just to Irish Members. Their opposition to the Bill had been strenuous certainly, but still honest and straightforward. The Bill which had come down to that House from the Lords had been laid aside, and leave moved for to bring in another Bill; on that occasion, unusual as it was, great opposition had been off , red to that, and to every subsequent stage of the Bill. The Hon. Member, after such repeated debates on the Bill, seemed entirety to have mistaken the objects .of the Bill. The Hon. Gentleman seemed to think that the Bill, when originally introduced, was to repress disaffection in Ireland, and he argued, after the loyal reception which her Majesty had met with in her• late visit , that there was no more occasion for it. The Honourable Gentlemen ought to have ktiown that this Bill was not introduced to repress political agitation, but it was enacted with reference to the system of assassination, which was unfortunately so prevalent in that country. He must also beg to re mind the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite (Mr. Anstey) that he too had taken a wrong view of this Bill. He seemed clearly to consider it as analagous to the Coercion Bill, as it was called. The Bill, in fact, was a necessary substitution for a Bill of still more stringent provisions. He must say that he thought there had been quite sufficient opportunity for discussion ou this measure, and he hoped the House would now allow them to go into Committee. . Mr. W. J. FOX considered that the system of evic tion was the root . of all Irish evil. He considered that, as the prevalence of crime and outrage was a reason for the extraordinary powers in 1847, so the great dimi nution of crime and outrage in 1850 was a reason why they should leave Ireland in this matter to the regular operation of the laws and constitu tion of the country. But there were other measures of amelioration n,cessary for the peace and prosperity of the country. He thought that encouragement ought to ba given to the division of property in a country which was of so purely an agricultural character. The Government had certainly done something for the redemption of the franchise from utter extinction, but it bad nut been put on the same level as it was in this country. On one question, however, be believed the Government had cont . . rred a very great g ood upon Ireland; they had continued th e i r educational measures, arid be believed that Irish education had done what Eng lish education had left undone, viz. , cc-oper a ti ng as a c h ec k to crime, and in th row i ng up a great barrier against many of the evils which afflicted the country. He fiend that while during th e l ast ten years iu Eng land the pro pdrtion of criminals who had been partially instructed had been gradully increasing as compared with those who had received no tdtication, in Ireland crime was almost totally among the uninstructed. and 'het crime among the instructed was diminishing instf ad of io creasing, as in this country. But he believed that universal quietude could never be secured in the country until measures of a peaceful and of a mentally influenti:l kind, such as he referred to, were further extended. No country could remain contented were the established religion was only that of a small minority, where the worship of one portion of the people was an insult and aggravation to the other, owing to its being supported from the resources of the grew, body of the public, and where the Church of the State, instead of being a monu ment of religion, was an unjust and oppressaive institu tion.—(Hear.) Mr. STAFFORD said be had already spoken in fa vour of the Bill, and be had since seen greater reason for continuing his support, because he considered the conduct of the Government was so calculat d to in flame the minds of the peeple in L eland, to set class against class, and to give rise to deeds of blood, that the Bill was absolutely necessary to suppress the disturbances which he he f. ared were likely to take place. The Governmeat had raised hopes of legislation on a ques tion which was convulsing, the whole of L eland only to disappoint the people. Nothing whatever had tern done to determine the relations b tween lan llord and tenant. though great promises had bean held out to them in the speech from the Throne. Y,t, to the present un• ..a , isfsetory state of those relations, most of the crimes were to be a•tributed, and the Hon. Member for Roch dale had stated very truly that the proceedings of the Commissioners under the Encumbered Estates Bill were another great stimulus to the increase of evictions. He thought no thanks were due to the Government for the course of conduct pursued by the Government during the whole session, for they had done nothing on those im portant questions with which the tranquillity and wel fare of Ireland was so deeply connected. Mr. M'CULLAGII said be could do no more than record the opinion which be had already ex: pressed, that the Bill was unnecessary, and he thought it would answer no good purpose, at this advanced period of the session, to pro secute any further opposition, seeing that the Bill had already passed its former stages by a majority. He thought the course adopted by the Encumbered Estates Commissioners, of declaring that estates put up to sale should be cleared of all persons who did not hold leases, amounted, in feet, to a declaration of war against life and property of a most lamentable and dangerous character. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL supported the amendment. Colonel DUNNE congratula:ted the House that there had been no compromise upon this Bill. His main ob jection was to the proposed duration of the Bill. He considered that the 13►11 itself was rendered necessary by the neglect of the Government. They had passed through the whole of the session, and nothing of consequence had been done. He would not oppose the Bill, hi cause he thought that the state of the country required it. Sir BENJAMIN HALL complained of a Bill of this importance being brought in at so late a period of the session. He thought that the disposal of the public business had now come to such a pass that there was an absolute necessity for a complete change. Be bad never known any session since the passing of the Re form Bill and the two sessions following it in which a greater desire to transact public business had been shown than on the present. With the excep tion of two occasions, no adjourned debate had taken place on a Government night, nor had the House been once counted out on a Government night. The SPEAKER called the Hon. Baronet to order. His arguments were not addressed to the question before the House. Sir B. HALL said he should take another opportu nity then of bringing this subject before the House. With regard to the present Bill, he should oppose it by every me aes in his power. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had no objection to the Hon. Baronet. bringing forward any motion on the business of the session, but he was some what surprised that, after eulogizing the Heine for its desire to get through public business, he should set an ex ample of wasting time by irrelavent arguments. Mr. MOWAT V opposed the Bill. He contended that no case for coercion had been made out by the Go vernment. It was absurd for the Government to look at the crimes themselves without referring to the causes. He did not think that such a people as the Irish would have been driven to such outrages as they read of unless under the conviction of oppressive wrong?. He consi dered this Bill a reproach to the Government, and that they were passing their own self-condemnation. Mr. E. B. ROCHE uas not sorry that the debate had been so long protracted, inasmuch as it had led to an universal acknowledgment that the wrongs of the Irish people were patent to all, and the Government, instead of coming forward to remedy these evils, had been occupied with measures to coerce them. With regard to the measure be bre them he considered that it was unjust and unnecessary, and was not required to tranquillise Ireland, because she was as trenquil as they could expect her to be under her present wrongs. He protested against the Bill, and he held the Government responsible for the consequences which might follow. Mr. P. SCROPE wished to draw the moral of this debate, and to point out the unfortunate position which her Majesty's Government bad occupied during the last two or three days. No one had said a word in their fAvcur, and they had scarcely a word to say for them selves. He trusted that this would be a lesson for them to endeavour to govern Ireland, for the future, on diffe rent principles. After a tew words from Mr. GRACE the House di vided, when there appeared— For going into Committee Against it ... 34 Majority ... —4B The House then went into Committee on the Bill. On clause 1. Mr. MOORE moved an amendment that the duration of the Bill should be limited to one year. He made the appeal on behalf of the whole body of the Irish Liberal Members, who were united in this request. Mr. HUME rose to suggest to the Government the policy of acceding to this amendment. Mr. REYNOLDS said as the House bad negatived his amendment by a majority of 82 to 34, he had no hope of obtaining his object. He hoped the Government would consider the proposition of the Hon. Member for Mayo, for he did not think the Bill ought 144 be continued for a longer period than was necessary. He was glad to find the the names of several English Members, who represented large and influential constituencies, were among the mi nority, particularly that of the lion. Member for the Tower Hamlets, whom he thanked, on behalf of the Irish people, for the good services which he bad ren dered to them. lie should vote for the amendment. Mr. ROCHE said, as Ireland was admitted on all hands to be free from agrarian outrages, the Bill might reasonably be dropped at the end of another year, pro vided the present tranquillity prevailed, and should out rages and disturbances be renewed, then the Govern ment would have very good grounds for applying for its renewal.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped, therefore, the Government would concede to limiting the continu ance of the Bill to one year. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL thought those observations were worthy of more attention than appeared to be given to them by the Government. He thought they ought not to continuo the measure a moment longer than inevitable necessity required. Sir G. GREY said it would be impossible for the Government to ascertain with anyth:ng like mathema tical accuracy the necessity for the continuance of the 1311 in a less period than three years. In re ference to the other topics which had been in troduced into the discussion, he said there could be no doubt that they must come under the considera tion of Parliament next session ; but it was a chimerical idea, which he thought no man could encourage who was acquainted with the real state of Ireland, that Par liament could, by a short Act, produce nothing but harmony as regarded the relation between landlords and tenants.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") Such an object could only be attained by the cu-opera tion of the parties themselves, and all Parliament could do was to facilitate the making of arrangements between tenants and their landlords. The proposed dura tion of the Bill had no reference to the existence of the present Government, for if the Govern ment were to change to-morrow the Bill would be quite as necessary, and the succeeding Government would find that they ought to have such powers con ferred upon them by Parliament as a security against disturbance=. Three years was the period to which Bills of this nature were usually continued. Mr. ANSTEY observed that the Habeas Corpus Sus pension Act for Ireland was limited to one year, and he thought that might be taken as a good precedent on the present occasion.. Mr. SCULLY regretted the determination her Ma jesty's Government had come to on this Bill. Ho was of opinion that, in preference to discussing this Bill in a hurried manner at the fag end of the session, it would have been more desirable to discuss it fully and deli berately at the commencement of the next session. In the interval before the opening of next ses sion the present state of quiet in Ireland might be then in continuance, which would be a state of things that would constitute an unanswer able argument against the continuance of the Crime and Outrage Act. He would vote for the motion of the Hon. Member for Mayo (Mr. Moore), believing that it was in the highest degree important that such a Bill as this should exist for as short a time as possible. Mr. S. CRAWFORD, amidst cries of " Divide " said, that whenever the Bill m i g h t b e made to end, he pro tested against any renewal of it for any period what ever.—(Hear.) He called upon the Government to give some explicit intimation whether or not they would early in next session bring in some measure to settle the re lations of landlord and tenant in Ireland? Mr. NIOURE reminded the Government that this was an appeal made to them by the whole Liberal party in Ireland.—(Hear, h.ar.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL said this was a Bill for the discouragement of murder—(Hear, hear)—and he could not say whether the Liberal party in Ireland could have any wish to continue that crime.—(Hear, hear.) He considered the continuance of this Bill for a somewhat longer period than one year was likely: to have a very. beneficial effect in the discouragement of that hor• tible crime. He admitted that it was desirable that the period for the continuance of this Bill should be very short. He thought what was desirable for Iceland, as it was fur England and Scotland when crime was there rather more pre valent than now, was that the House should induc e habits of order and obedience to the law, and having done that they might then confidently rely on the ordinary operation of the law for the prevention of ordinary crime. But it' they made this Bill last for a very short time, they would, immediately that power was taken away, immediately that the force of repression which bad been placed on that crime had been withdrawn, they would get a revival of the crime; and, with a revival of the crime, they would have a cry from Ireland for extraordinary measures. His opinion was, that if they wished this measure not to be very long „..-- nom in duration, it was far better that they should corierit to, a period of two years than to bare ony r e newal o f this Bill in the INV. session of Perita7 muent.—(Hear. hear.) With respect to the question pa by the Hon. ;limier for Rochdale (Mr. S. Crawford), he might say it. was the intention of the Government tl introduce a Bill on the subject of the relations be ilndlord and I entail t in the next session of Parliament. Mr. MO WATT called the attention of the llouee to the wholesale evictions going on among the tenant class in I; elan', and suggested tta,r. instead of bringivg ia Ilills o f this hind, the Government should in 1100 in9uiry into the cuts° of the crimes it WAS 11101311° suppress. The motion The Committee then divided, when there opPeared--. For the motion . .. 34 Against it ... :•• •• ..: 73 .1 t g ib' .._l".ii.. , — T OLDS then morel en amenurnfn ber '1,,,,,,,,1!.bi1y the same as the motion of the floe. Me°3,0,1 Mo'C'rri. HEY '.°,,\en3:ln'':jef:tnihteyeri tiny • • f r ''''.ll.).o, namely, that the Bill be continued for a Btu n iruinie year. o'llst.3tlet.n: her for ...14-34yto (al".. Be N 4 as of opinion that neither this .3;.00 r ant' c;:eicicn Bill would 1 e of any avail, u n ~, b the peel ) 1 -01” .he substantial grievances under whichW"" '", 40v., of Irehrid hiboured were remised. viola Le the consequences of this? Irish Member: ~t return to their constitutncies Bud tell th na s : i f :. Government refused to adopt condilistorY f°,el,!iots) Ile thought that the people of Ireland had no fib h , so b quiet and orderly while they were oppfessud "'bold measures. On the !bird reading of this 13ili l be r : t ioa of na, va a similar amendment to shorten the " the Bill to one year. 6 th e Mr. ANSTEY intimated that he should not pres ~, amen(men•s of which he had given notice. The ,e(h)kreed the . 10 Houseit third iNtr then e reading; resumed, ediißUSSELL,nu6mpeedn Monday. intimated toordered 19 be reported to-morrow. MEDICAL CHARITIES (IRELAND) - This Bill wits read a third time and Pass ed. nANS TRANSFER OF IMPROVEMENT 14" -- , This , a ß d il a l pihasirsde(clitilmtEeL t, A ), inNol?:r)oßwth.l.eLLl3.ill wditsii:ieret:o° through Committee, an to he r riN rAsf LOUGH CORRIB IMPROVEMENT C - -1 This C ß O il S l l w rE en N t. S th A re T u l g Ti c (01h3RinEiLitAeeN, Dan)dnwiLD.otde'44 to be read a third time t 0 131 pa GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH TIT, (Ne 0 4 0 ,': 3 010 e n The House then agreed to the Lords one Ü be N r l e O ad N a O t F hir L d l t ß i LIBERTIES 115 T This Bill went this Ball. 05 O d a; s of throughtime e tomorrow. IE S ad WITH C 0 dere Committee, and wa PUBLIC BILLS. 0 0 4 0 9 Sir BENJAMIN HALL gave L; tce thaneent,;tbE, r e. next he would evil the attention of the ii oll 70 °5 turn headed " Public Bills," with the Vie w 9 . e ss. some observations on the progress of public bel3ol, COURT OF CHANCERY (IRELAND) c i see r Several Hon. Members were appointed to Ot eli n doeu lt ference with the Lords with reference to the au3e g - ry ( li r land) Bill, Bbyillt,heaihrdLoimrdmshei,plisatienlythleefC, otuhret of Ob enc ' ;OP' : 1 nee with their Lordships' message. gouge in ‘ O Si n the , return of the conference had plplan rp6".PECHELL wished to knoll' Bey t he W hether e s o n t i es Ol e r e t a i n arisener pAoonßsweti Mr. Y d° • bst i the T a h r e r t Dee is h ciih eueirhßeAocrteeOctober, officers eedr fs had ltB 4a acre:, in hpodtne baded irne afterst i a r e 07.: b 0 a been th aengeeamsee,ht. but steps were cforwarde to after ° after House then aejourned at twenty 11311/Utes five till a quarter-psst seven o'clock. t The business was teen resumed at ga ff fro ° o'clock. tiff° IA Colonel CHATTERTON pres ented a P fr e Be d Si t e the fishermen on the river L ee , near Co l. ' r edo- e'oo Reek, complaining of the poverty they t r f rifer b , by the almost total destruction of fish in he employment of bag nets at its mouth. Ol d Mr. T. D'EYNCOURT , as well as ief fed , ; - 0 ( was understood to say that 25,0001. had hello Sell e g " 0 00 h o e o 9/. Thames. only ne forwished sewetros gken_po know r p r g: w ell e t be t ' t I, • with the remainder ? tO et' Viscount EBRINGTON was understooe je O r e the Commissioners had preparel comPre b leld °lig° age plans which, to carry out properly, upwards of a quarter of a million of tte r ° l3 . e lili ejectpinptm precautions I Ll S lt t t hct nn i to s y aa r r i t rer .fi u i h d i nrutemm`toopf. reply 0 1 0 Ii AB y r n i nn tu rn A l tise t a l h B w teto a l uK o c hU e l t tek u , e l ej ina i S ioo n iN rrN e p S n d se lci a r G ßeEuue t r to ec'eL o s r stsc a l:Ltto ei oi i i tn nEoo d n i snns av Ea t io be h di *lLfd lr : e e e f , 'orSSt A M t atnh a i h tr d e n i e rMo m M d ß m s. r: b r b t . NI ' a il 4 00 e d l I t eS Y e. s t 1 1 1 1 0 7b0 :; ::g t n° : i : tc i 91 J opened do t N h ps e teeww r di i es v rh e tsoo r nd.peraetrvoesntk.t burgot ho: e.53 - ergoep4: oc e r . b - 00 .be..o • l l.6 e i t: w eeth e fois r and to ask whether it is not the feats P 1 of I t T e tili r officers and attendants on this House he ve i 0 90 011 at c seriously indisposed by complaints 6 011 1? e.OO from exhalations from drains or graveYeTii°oo"a reasonV Mar garet's hc o t o u b t el E i eßveß churchya r dl N t h G a t T tw O hee N r enserlio,dt drain o h rfa e ra c e : he t : 13 6 , .44 ,3 :0 - e t: di ;17 ,,: c e g e o , I ° A, , with the cases of diarrbosa which ° et ' among several officers of that Hettse• d 6 (Irdertr The Friendly Societies Bill was rer r e ge „;),e, 0 to be read a third time to-morrow (th is „ SUNDAY POSTAI. REGUL 4 re' - gl 4, r ettli k t e In reply to a question from Mr. FOrts;;;-, Ct iv ed bmb eue : at i hb r tel . oe L v,ot. L c,a) k :l ß sani O ydo ebrtirtrO their t E R r E e p o s r a t i d t the h at dPaoys,t T ri a ri e o P i g ie l i e7 1. 1 on the ttaobpleroomt promise any cle'" 0 ou the subject. ri d are if CEPHALONIA. eo ratP, e e i00 9 4 Mr. HUME then rose to move that 511 0 7 be g';d to r b e be presented to her Majesty, that site w" - o rore - 00,'" o f pleased to appoint a Royal Commission tf ; a irs ; 1 0 0ea lonian ',lands, there, on the s ot, te e l i e etbe e i fi,e• causes of the disturbances that occur i n by w' r eetrj halonia, and into the measures tal c slo t ; 0°! Cep W ao a d rd, the Lord High Commissioner, to '-eergeOcetegji into the man ner i n • four which fortr bou pa . t sentenced to death and twenty-one ni „tw o j o • and also into the m anner i n w hich P iee t l ile were flogged, and others banished fronlee L ad - 0 0- e out trial; and generally to institute 1 0 r eeesife e , causes h of discontent in these islands, a/ vps o :l llelst ea f t e best means of promoting their filte r- A O l'''„ e e 'r e i 0 Are. He said it was much to ,be rfg,„ r ;ds ci e ;ro s ,o -° t' choly position in which the lonian 15 ,:: o rese e °F' at the present time. Ilia object on tu" e ifotua ll ;b l V , would be a very concise one. It Wee t f, - e ivee e e'l P' e ces planationt l u v n a i r t d y , t t o h teihape hisr e ßight sepnotwg H oorv o enorinother p ar Gentleman oceebeedilivive fhe,edoetisietirs:lll had never yet been in the possession ° the por ee vr; t lo and therefore he had placed his motion 0 ° 1 ' of t the lonian Isla.nds came under the sw s e i leod er ,"J Crown, General Campbell promised the Oi n n toi, O A - Prince Regent should give a close attendecc'ete?lo calculated to extend the commerce Of tu n e al 160 2 100, afford them freedom, security, and P ee tle s aie e; t eoe These promises were repeated in + a feW °I L erg itol lll o by the same General Campbell. Suchiro, Y o re ' so d ot the promises held out to these islatiee ~eotee e lf of their having been realised, the ts l l . o % eett o ol o ero constant state of antagonism to .tie " the lid not progress in national prosperitY• a o ut i ii ° so. o lo remark that the hopes and promises heletardeillil instance t) the islanders had been a lt o of 'f,oThil or, and that neither freedom nor liberaVoele -I„,ce , had been allotted to them. Had the r o ve reed lg r odt able to . witness the mischief which he", been ° cell,'" the system by which that mischief be d h oe d 105, he was satis fi ed a different result vio ul i een dereol rrild that we should not have had rebet.l- w ig i r life such as had recently taken 1 31 , sce s ' 1 81 ,. - 04 ) 1 condition'Ll' Lord d Jl l o o h nn oo u tu r tu a h b ses l e e oltinnieamn reference b l e s r l a ri h d e , r ,t e oi I r it 73:0:bogioct 1 fbe~?b, itir lions l w i h e e r r e a i promised, tem and o l a . pa r t k i i c e iP sv e t a l e s erg 0 . 0 tb° l o l ,e 0 0 1 p icy. • t e Lord was not better -,acquainted 01 obJ t o those islands. He would know that tu e r be ptli t iont f e islanders was then, and is now, to obtsi:ol,, c ol r eooll two or three impartial men, to insPeetei so 40,00°00 look into their grievances, and to !Deserver ripotel dbe port thereon. He had not found an t he to bring this subject under the notic e ov e r "' t a t. 00 i ,. he could not allow the session to peee h •, rOS ti job e er, charging his duty to the public 10 t '";aer "soisOt Hon. Member here referred t th e outticlit er committed on the 27th of August ' PI/is c o4 o 'ePtlete base already been before the h Gof er that any man representing the Blitl; h ay, I' OOP. a holding the liberties of a people s e ° ' e g o obit e a o e / o,i self in an unworthy situation. P el° 6l9 bilg" 0030 1 Ward the coe s , 00 positive information Sir law, and he (Mr. Hume) trusted that 11 ; to do _:o 0 , 0 01 0 next session some individual qualiflca_pd / 17 00 1 oe bring the subject before the li° llle ' of 1° 11 ; • 0 ' lf country the anomaly of any 1 3 °." 1 1 Brit° er0 1111 0 1) ; being placed out of the protection o d t ee e d 9 0 e s will of any one wan. Sir Ef• Wa r t 00 0 '4 oil 0 0 bus 0,000.0 ties were a body of assassins; ing these assassins, he proclaiel pro teol t ' o c Om o rd; deprived every inhabitant a t° p a rker e i be r ge ° ; civil law, and sent for Adtnire' r a se i o eit os " e li t o l the blockade of the island. Sir • , s e 0 00 1 011 08 right to proclaim martial law, to J o ;be is ,ovi oce itors e pre e g e ' Ve rv el c s h a i o p! o in a t e e n o e ci ed , e a r e a . n o y o e roof° the t o g l r e ee : ti 0 t ri p e 1 / , i tstl e , him was that,he had banished the _ ere o f th es e ownitehootutthteritgahrli,esa—antdtohoattrobtolished the lib er ty 1311 J:i b ° °1 Y et)l meat was poluseihnttsreagoaainceur L.seesobei.oer. to take pl ice after these islands has urovisolooroo stefort under British rule, and had beene,Pbe wee for th 0 de e i and o f advantaes. Sir 11. Ward t yree t v ia g 06 risk he ran being denounced tts.: , lor 136 he had taken, but he had no f ro as;eoW e res, v , be w est t l i oe iae:yeri e r li i ,`,l ith semi-barbarians, when he (Me, Hume) was in ,tu'e nce il,O c h it character of the people for and if they had 3o much degenera ot tO .over , I t was w ise . o ve' On behal of British awe, • oth er e° eri Id l I ca stveielneedrf,a outcts doat that Sir H. Ward would repor t Le d 0 b (0 1 .40 f into l i! n e s ar t e o s_ ra a .) p_ l ite a_ teed much regretted that Sir I; r : t ewals oo glit ie gotten his old principles. el on e e° ve_ Ge te.et H. Ward an excellent rcformer! t o!' a do e ree. e p make a good governor, and belleraieraje Le hao rd illy d out the principles which ood f°re • • w i ' e ' ce O PP " f i.ictehotmehmecraiessiseui.oro.%„,.ra 00,;0, 004, oo_rpri ztehaal in t ofauvsoe.ur Nofermelaignioboasdlib..spotil_ygitti.d I..teurierled:4lo,l regret that he had to complat L e " ed• o f 0e Whale martial law wasp roelaiw, It ‘ N, THE LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, AUG [IS 10, I'Bso