The Sun. — London, England, 1850-10-19 00:00:00

SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FR , .31 TIIE MORNING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. TIMES.—It is reported by those who profess themselves better acquainted than we care to be with the intention s of the Court of Rome that the promo tion of Cardinal Wiseman to the titular Archbishopric of Westminster is only one portion of a complete schem e for the revival of the Psomish hierarchy in this country. Twelve bishops of the Romish Church are said to be designated by the Pope to fill the sees into which it has pleased his Holiness to divide the Queen's dominions; and the Cardinal Archbishop is ere long to return to England armed with full Papal power s for the government of the affairs of the Roman Catholic body in his province. We have no means of ascertaining the accuracy of this statement, and we sheuld be glad to learn that no such project has been entertained ; or, if entertained, that it is not likely that a sche me so calculated to revive amongst the People of England the strongest feelings of suspicion and aversion against the Popish authorities of the Roman Church will be executed. But the spe cimen Pius IX. has recently given us of his po licy and intentions, and the imprudent exultation with which we are told that a lost nation. has fboelednofSt. recovered and re c l a i m ed by this very act t o th e Peter, may justify an apprehension that a mo re ostentatious and ambitious display of the preten sions Of the Papal Court is actually at hand. As ouilingi theref ore , t h at t h ese f acts h ave not b een erculour e d, we inay ask what they mean. For if they have any signification at all beyond an idle dis tribution of spurious titles, they mean that the Pope Conceives that he ca n i n th e 19th cen t ur y resume and realm ethe dir ec t s pi r it ua l governmen t w ithi n this of a hierarchly, considerable portion of the Queen's .811bjects and that by means of a regularly established mild t accountable to Rome only for its actions, Crownenou et the B ‘ l eg as they are not absolutely at variance with the th e our present laws, he can divide with of f flow. countrymen. Iti s allegiance our e i not, as we remarked on a former occasion, on theo- Logical grounds that we repudiate these arrogant claims, :r:d that (to use the term which the Reformation religiousts W a e rn p p ro e UP " opinions, protest our branch of the Church of Christ) a gainst them. We respect the sanctity of of con s • we recognise the inviolable rights p re f. cie nee under every form of worship, and we L a - 7 8 7 the liberal principle of the age we live in, that 11 l civil disabilities ought to be annexed to religious theq uicti om. But with the utmost deference for e s .: P r inciples of religious freedom in the person of ti er ! ' , En glishman, we are not the less, but rather the , eoune to , . . uphold to polity of this kingdom, to 4 , with indignation the attempt of a foreign power to fastenregis .t the reconstruction its authority upon our divisions, and to th e R . glory of our of those .. great engines of foe s etrush hierarchy which it is the if r jrathers to have expelled and overthrown. For Court P r ojects projects are ever fulfilled to the letter the lin of Rome will have recovered a greater power authority th at portion of the nation which admits its Refo rmation than it enjoyed for centuries before the °rnlation, as far back as the reign of Richard 11., when the • e introduction of unauthorised Papal bulls 'llurred With the p ena l t i es of a preernunire; and England e s u a her Prote s t ant esta bli shment and her oath o f hie r- ee tt ey would conce d e t o th e R oman C at h o li c re r i t ,, ,_eny and to the Pope a greater latitude of autho c4ol.all they have enjoyed for ages in the . most be lc states of Europe. That is actually, it must Sy n e o ° , l life ssed, the present state of Ireland, and the Rod de of Alleles with a host of evils which afflict o f its grade that country are the clearest indication —elm 'affects These effects will probably only be d ' b, r ,e when means shall have been found to define eiic°nlpact the mutual obligations of the Romish -.ar c h all ows and of th e St ate ; meanwh i le we ma k e Chu feh c es—eperh a p s too great a ll owances— f or the an, which h as ma i nta i ned so dark a superstit i on por ' v ered so constant a disaffection amongst a large w e l i v e of the Irish people. But here in England is here iv e n..... 1 gem move in the heart of this empire ; it , th e ,. la ws' the that we preserve, in the sanctuary of our ateve traditional polity of the nation ; and fr erne . 1 * humours may affect other parts of our o ''tis by the consent of the free people who in.. aster round these abodes and crowd this island :that W e are what we are. Is it then here, in Westmin ter, sh a ,. "'long ourselves and by the English Throne, If, oiunion of doro `eae Italian priest is to parcel out the spiritual this country —to employ the renegades t , t _ or national Church to restore a foreign usurpa io4ol(llurver .the consciences of men, and to sow division . Political scoiety by an undisguised and syste- Mahe hostility to the institutions most nearly identi fied with our national freedom and our national faith ? Buchanintention must either be ludicrous or intole rable—eithertreason to the delusion of some fanatical brain or pated ou last vestiges ranee sake we h r Romano civil t tholic Countrymen from o th e e have do Proscription, and for tsilho ma ost zealously f -ou g h t in that well ; but of tere was not dire Would man who would have cause atrect e ncroachm ent endured the thought of a fee % ii 1, On the spiritual independence m ons ° n and by that faction from whom these restric part_W.ere to he removed. The destiny of the Whig be en Yoni relation to the Roman Catholic Church has ceriturUrions and perplexing. They spent the first half in a g _Y of their political existence, from 1650 to 1700, whieuherce struggle against the Catholic element T he threatened lave to blast the liberties of the country. o 1 8,56 spent the last half- century, from 1800 t • ) le r est .shoving every , rig to the Romish Church all the liberty and to dente it could claim at the hands of a Protes -,ate 9 , • eve r e • This apparent and ere,h „"e readily explained. They combated pop e: " the Catholics in the 17th century because to tiil,was another name for all that was most hostile ti oas e i .ttleory of constitutional government and na esthr,ll.lidePendence; they laboured to emancipate the Were l es in the 19th century because their claims resin Preferred in the name of a persecuted faith. They Which the pretensions of Rome to a supremacy for three the laws of this country have utterly condemned r thre e th e e ,Senturies ; they admitted without reluctance for qeu_ality of the rights of conscience under every to ever religious opinions. Those rights are secured by the Y r Mani no less by the spirit of this age than thethe less !cent Acts of the Legislature ; but it is not .. incumbent on us to oppose whatever bears which we appearance of an assumption of authority tlOO , thate epphatically reject by the solemn declara nt' potentate no foreign prince, person, prelate, state, Pevver, su hath, or ought to have, any jurisdiction, siestical orrierity, pre-eminence or authority, eccle indeed, 0 t sprir itnal, withi n t hi s realm. " It is not, eof se „e, se the English Catholics so much as to the ad dressed; for our hatit these obj ec ti ons may f a i r ly b e as a body probably n o men Cath o li c countrymen h ave of the ali en authorit ° active part in these proceedings the contrary, the y which they acknowledge. On y are more likely Y such rash innovation kely to lose than to gain hligioue liberties was isi:eand the enjoyment of their tl.lo.re silent. But since Rors• r .espectable when it was rldiculous contrivances, me is itself the seat of these l nempts at spiritual aggre s s:" may fairly regard such Pertinency to be met with as a mark of hostile r t it , 11 Government, not in due vigour by the 13 i In fe",e,Present state of the Po England, but in Italy. the dcminios, l ~iVe r emnant of his temporalexciteswtheecom- 'a„,:'.l°ll of the Catholic statesand d ow h er unt t of his r e Zets i the direct Opposition a of t England ee and erap a bold sei e tion to shake the rotten edifice to its foundations pant s prove more formidable dangers to the occu- I rehb ( i' f ,the Vati can than the presence of a sham Q pr Il uop to th e P rotestant citizens of Westminster. d o as th e vitality of the Romish Church 1) 1 the 4at its centre, it revives at its extremities ; and reigu e e, st r ange contradictions of its nature a Sove agaiost."° is too weak to defend himself in his palace it s ort o f a mob wh o in • suit him with impunity acquires to his parasitic existence in countries not subject Vhiehallthoeity, and distributes dignities and duties Presume not his own. But the Papal See may 4 tabi t i o e t OO much on its weakness as the screen of its Whioh will There is a spirit abroad even in Italy ev er rel 11 not be roused with impunity ; and, how oord , uctant we may be to add fresh elements of dis see not _,the present agitated condition of Europe, we indif fe utsPosed to submit with perfect tameness or foreign rence to l o be interference of band of wanton priests Cale the affairs of this country. t o th - L'ONICLE.--In alluding, on a recent occasion, kre a, contract just concluded g., the Admiraltywith 'Lamb) f by th e c g, or the conveyance of a monthly mail to Cap of Good H • Pay ment of 30 cope, in screw -steamers, for a teral ter ms , ' oo ° l . Per annum, we described, in ge- Sala which i the nature of the three • • l ropo ten • ha ve been. principal p t sive a n d made for establishing more ex- P e rfect l' thween this cou ntry a t tar of steam communication be ose at present exisnr its eastern dependencies than increasing urgency of importance The importance and the t‘hat the questions connected Lat pic render it necessary further discussed; and that with it should be still 7 ) bring under the influenceatte mpts should be made o f vftto?artial public opinion, , an enlightened and 07. 1 eh have now a mass of arrangements the three become a matter of national concern. establish routes by whi:h it has been proposed to to A , a passenger and no t l service Pur usiralia, it m . s A steam-packet - P o ses th at •ma be considered, for all practical at l east ) at, in the present stage of the discussion lef t 1 the Panama Pacific . elatir e l or project may be es tabli s h Y out of view. The thorough of tr_os.taent of a cheap, easy, and expeditious mode eu i ia l a across the Isthmu s of Panama forms so pe te and essential feature in that um,.it the Pacific scheme, p resn. , , ll We are better acquainted than we are at neet ` : °' 'with the actual progress of the plans for con rets'"ng the two oceaes, we can do little than thens°l b e tw e en ssum tio ' n Thean. more lies, is '-' the jape s.nd h question really 4 _ la fortunate that the effortst the Eastern routes; and ° I. rend er the proposed Australian WIC b have been made br each lino from Singapore }ave excitedservice a mere ia p4tos discussion on another, andthea very sa . ‘l - of our great schemes perhaps most ni ce. it will be of contract packet ser- U remembered that, in reply to the THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 19, 1850. Admiralty advertisement of November last for ten ders for the Australian line, the Peninsular and Oriental Company submitted a bold and ingenious scheme for accomplishing the proposed object, as part of an important extension of their present field of operations. They proposed, and they still propose, . to carry a monthly mail to Syd ney Singapore, at a cheap rate, on condition that the whole of the contract packet ser vice to the eastward of Suez be placed in their hands. As we shall have occasion to show presently, this large and imposing scheme is in substance the revival of a plan which was suggested so long ago as 1844, and which was then laid aside, after mature consi deration, because it interfered with the establishments, invaded the rights, and was incompatible with the independence, of the East India Company. - The re vival on the present occasion of a plan which was regarded as having been definitively disposed of, has of course again excited opposition ; and there is every probability that, by means of these disagreements, the public will obtain a full and searching inquiry into the whole question of our contracts for steam commu nication with the East Indies. On the one hand, the pretensions of the Peninsular Company have been espoused by Sir Charles Wood, with even more than his usual beat and , indiscretion ; and on the other, the case of the East India Company has been stated with great force, dignity, and temper, in the letters and minutes which appear in the final sec tion of the blue hook recently issued. The subject, however, is not likely to remain long in the very un satisfactory state in which it is left by the official cor respondence. Taking a wise advantage of the inter val for preparation afforded by the recess, Lord Joce lyn placed on the notice-paper of the House of Com mons, on the 10th of August last, a notice of motion, for an early day in the approaching session, for a Committee "on the question of the existing steam communications between England and India "—his object being to ascertain "whether any improvement maybe made in the conduct of those communications previous to the grant of a further contract to any company proposing to carry on that line ;" and also to inquire "into the most fitting mode in which steam communication between England, India, and Australia may be effected, with due care for economy and with advantage to the public interest." The whole of the questions raised by this notice are of the highest practical moment. They , affect, in a very intimate degree, the in terests of all persons who are connected with India ; and the investigation will bring before a competent tribunal several controversies which admit of no other satisfactory mode of adjustment. The Select Committee of 1849 on the Contract Packet Service has already in a great measure prepared the path, and indicated the duties of the proposed Com mittee ; and if Lord Joeelyn should be fortunate in the selection of his colleages, he will have such an op portunity as very rarely occurs of settling a very in tricate question, and of performing an important public service. It will be desirable, before entering upon a discussion of the points which have been raised between Sir Charles Wood and the East India Com pany,' to state, with all possible brevity and clear ness, the precise position of the facts. The convey ance of passengers and mails by the overland route between England and India is a somewhat compli cated operation, and it is in the hands of several par ties. The Isthmus of Suez may be said to occupy a middle position between the two geographical divisions of the journey and between the two principal authorities under whose auspices it is performed—namely, the East India Company and the Peninsular Company. On the western side of the Isthmus there is no colli sion whatever between these two corporations. The passengers and mails between Southampton and Alexandria are conveyed solely by the Peninsular Company, with the exception of a short service, on every alternate voyage, between Malta and Alexan dria, which is performed by vessels of the Royal Navy. On the eastern side of the Isthmus—that is, between Suez, or Aden, and India—there are two lines of steam communication, the Bombay and the Calcutta. The Bombay line is in the hands of the East India Company—the Calcutta line is under con tract to the Peninsular Company. The former must be regarded as the trunk postal line, and the latter as the trunk passenger line, between India and Eng land. A line of mail steamers from Bombay would be always able to maintain a very efficient postal communication with the whole of the three Presidencies. Bombay is the most direct route to the whole of the Panjaub frontier, and to a very considerable portion of the Upper Provinces. It is within a nine days' dawk, or post, of Calcutta ; and it is considerably nearer to most parts of the territory subject to Madras. On the other hand, the greatest number of passengers are to and from Calcutta. The East India Company, for reasons which will appear in the sequel, have, from the very commencement of a steam-packet communication with India, firmly main tained their command over the Bombay postal line; and they have also as readily extended their counte• nance and support to the introduction of private enter prise in the passenger line to Calcutta. The facts, therefore, at present are simply these :—as concerns the East India Company, the mails and passengers for England, which leave Bombay on the Ist of each month, are conveyed to Suez by steam-frigates of the Indian Navy—these vessels carrying back with them, on their return voyage, the mails and passengers which have arrived in the Red Sea from Eng land ; and as concerns the Peninsular Company, the mails and passengers which leave Calcutta on the Bth of each month are conveyed be vessels of that Company's eastern steam fleet, via Madras and Ceylon, to Suez. The effect of this arrangement is to give the East India Company a full and inde pendent access for postal purposes to their own terri tories, and to give the Peninsular Company the means of completely carrying out their own commercial ob jects. It is quite clear that the maintenance of a postal line to Bombay is a great Imperial as well as a great Indian object ; and in all the financial arrange ments which have been entered into from the first establishment of an Overland Mail, this truth has been fully admitted by her Majesty's Government. The cost of the Bombay line has therefore been divided between the Treasury and the India House; and at present, under an arrangement first entered into in 1837, a sum of 50,0001. is paid to the East India Company for the performance of the Bombay service. The arrangement with the Peninsular Company is somewhat more complex. On the Ist of January, 1845, that company entered into a contract with the Admiralty, for a term of seven years, to expire on the 31st of December, 1851, for the conveyance, in steam-vessels of a specified size, of certain periodical mails to Calcutta and China. For the performance of this contract it was stipu lated that a sum of 160,0001. should be paid annually by the Imperial Government; and at the same time an agreement was concluded with the Court of Di rectors, by which the revenues of India were charged with a early sum of 70,0001., as a contribution towards the cost of the arrangement. Assuming that one-half of the expense of the Bombay line is borne by the Imperial Treasury, and the other half by the revenues of India, the financial part of the question stands at this moment on the following footing : The total cost of the steam-postal services between England, Bombay, Calcutta, and China, is 260,0001. per annum. Of this sum, 120,0001. is provided by the East India Company (50,000/ on the Bombay, and 70,0001. on the Calcutta line); and 140,0001. is pro vided by her Majesty's Government (50,0001. on the line to Bombay, and 90,0001. on the line to Calcutta). And the point recently in dispute between Sir Charles Wood and the Court of Directors had reference to a scheme suggested by the Peninsular Company for accomplishing an apparent economy, by removing the steamers of the Indian navy from the Bombay and Suez station, and placing the entire steam-packet service eastward of the Isthmus in the hands of that Corporation. Such are the leading outlines of the case, and on a future day we shall return to the sub ject and investigate it more in detail. THE SEIZURE OF PLATE.—LIVERPOOL, FRIDAY. —The prisoners Sirrell and M'Auley were formally com mitted to take their trial at the next Liverpool assizes by the county magistrates, at Kirkdale, this morning. Nothing further transpired, and the London officers returned to town by the eleven o'clock train, taking with them the packages of plate and jewellery which they bad brought down here for identification. A list descriptive of the various articles remains in Liverpool, but no additional claims have yet been made, although several persons have visited the police office in the hope of finding some of their lost treasures amongst the property seized at the house of Sirrell. The police authorities here have been in communication with Cap tain Brown, of the Dublin constabulary, and that gentleman has just forwarded a description of plate stolen in Ireland, which, it is thought, will be found to correspond with some found in Sirrell's shop. Since the examination on Tuesday Sirrell has been very low in spirits, and has frequently been heard to say that he wished himself dead or shot. He appears much concerned at thocases in London, and other places, which it is stated ar e in course of p re p aration against him. It is stated that 111‘Guire, who was released from custody yesterday morning, entertained a number of his particular friends at his house in School-lane in the evening. SPALDIS G.—THE MUSTARD - GROWERS.—Just now is the time of thrashing and selling mustard. Although some of the samples are grey, upon the whole the corps are yielding pretty well, and fortunately the price is again very remunerative ; it is considered good for a bushel when it reaches the " teens," and the best seed is a long way on the teens this year. Under present regulations scarcely any of the tenant-farmers are allowed to grow this or other small seeds ; consequently the growth is restricted to those who farm their own laud, and many fortunes have been made. — Stan ford Mercury. At CI erken Police-court, onWednesday, Richard Pickering, the brother of Mr. Frederick Pickering, the artist, was remanded on a charge of having stabbed his step mother. That lady, it appeared, had remonstrated with him on his idleness, when he seized a knife and inflicted several dangerous wounds en her face and head. HIS GRACE THE DUKE OF NEWCASTLE,-ENO Vl"' sible improvement appears as yet to have taken place in the health of the Noble Duke. Apparently he is in much the same state as at this time last week. We fear that the chances of his Grace's recovery are very remote. The Right Hon. f t a h t e he E r a , Earl o w f e L ll in a c s o t l h n e re m mains nbse embers st of hisu bGerralvei Grace's family,— his m il noble .), . Notto Guardian. SMITHFIELD MARKET COMMISSION. MR. BUN NING'S PLAN. THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 1850, GEORGE CORNEWALL LEWIS, Eiq., M.P., in the Chair. Henry Lowm , ln Taylor, Esq.; Thomas Henry Hall, Esq ; Mr. Deputy Hicks; James Low, Lei ; Thomas DAM, Esq.; Mr. Sergeant Merev% ether (Town Clerk of the City of London); Thomas Saunders, Esq. (Comptroller) ; Edward Tyrrell, Ebq. (Remem brance* J. B. Banning, E.. 1. (Architect), attended the Commissioners. 2173. You appear as a deputation from the Markets Improvement Committee of the Corporation of London? Mr. Taylor--We do. We will produce to the Commis sioners a plan that we have prepared, which we hope will show that we have endeavoured to meet the diffi- culties and objections which at present exist. Mr. Bunning—This is a plan [producing the same] showing Smithfield-market as it is at the present mo- ment, with the surrounding property. It is proposet to clear 8-1 acres, extending westward and northward from the present site of Smithfield, upon an inclined plane of lin 100. The bullocks on the south side and the sheep in these pens on the north side upon a regular hanging level. One entrance is provided at the south-cast side. A vast number cf cattle come along Long-lane. A new street is intended to be cut from Holborn-hill to Long lane; and it would be a very desirable thing to do when the market should be removed from this space, but should it be opened now while the market is here, it would be inconvenient that the traffic should pass through where the cattle are, but by this arrangement the cattle will be entirely taken out of the thoroughfares and enclosed; in fact the market could he locked up. Cattle coming down Long-lane would enter the market at this point, immediately opposite St. Bartholomew's Hospital, and, they would go down the inclined plane to the ties and the sheep also. There is another entrance from St. John's-street. There is also an entrance from Cow-cross-street ; there is an entrance from Turnmill street, ono also in the centre, and one at the extreme southern point, so that the cattle and sheep having to pass over Blackfriars'-bridge (which they do in consider able number) would go in this direction through Far ringdon-street. On the upper level is provided space on one side for the pig -market, and on the other side for the calf-market. From one side, round to the east by the other side, there will be a series of arches 32 feet in depth, the light coming into them from the area. These would be formed into layers for the cattle unsold on the Monday's market, so that instead of driving them any distance from the market and returning again, they would remain here to be sold till the next market-day. These layers I propose to ventilate by means of a disc, driving the air through the whole of the cells by under ground drains. There is no difficulty in that, because we should blow the air out immediately through all the openings. Then, at the base of the cattle-market, it is propose to put the dead-meat market. This plan shows the various entrances ; the houses surrounding the markets, and the shops in the interior, all of which will be explained to you on a model which has been prepared. Attached to these markets, it is proposed to arrange slaughter- houses upon this spot. It is considered that about 1,000 bullocks a week and about 5,000 sheep are slaughtered at the present moment, and our plan provides for that number. Well-ventilated slaughter houses could be arranged on this site to any extent, without displacing valuable property. 2174. Will you explain exactly the changes with re ferences to the area which you propose to make? Do you propose to give up any portion of the area of the present market, and to take in any new area?—We give up this portion of the market opposite St. Bartholomew's Hospital, which is now occupied by bullock-rails, and this portion next Long-lane, where the sheep are. 2175. How do you propose to appropriate those por tions of space?—My idea was to put baths and wash houses upon a part, and the Haymarket to surround it. 2176. What is the area taken away from the present market according to your plan?—lt is very considerable. We have 8i acres provided here, and I should think there was very little more than an acre remaining of the present site included in it—the site is shifted more west ward. 2177. What is the present area of the market?—As nearly as possible, six acres. 2178. Out of those six acres you propose to retain about one acre?—Yes. 2179. Then to that one acre you propose to add about seven acres not now used for the purposes of the market? —Yes, le ; there are 12 acres altogether, consisting of 34 and Bi, and the slaughter-homes besides. 2180. What is the entire area which would be appro priated to the live-stock market, the dead-meat market, the slaughter-houses, and all purposes connected with the market, according to your plan?-124 acres ; then I propose to erect a fountain here, by which we should be enabled, if it were considered desirable, to furnish the cattle with water; and it would be used for clean ing the market. There is a good deal of difficulty, in dry weather, in cleansing the market, but with the as sistance of the water, the drains might be flushed and the market swept, and cleansed immediately aLer the market was closed. The. e is great facility for drain age down this large sea er, which runs direct towards Blackfriars. The whole market could be cleansed by those means with the greatest facility, and the cattle provided with water, if deemed necessary. I do not know whether the Commissioners are aware of the miserable property which now covers this ground. It is of the most inferior description. Here is a plan on which it is shown. It comprehends Sharp's-alley, where there is a large knacker's, and sever al slaughter-houses, and where the houses are of the worst description ; and Fox and Knot-court, where the houses are also bad; and Garden-court, which is of a very inferior description of property ; and Red Lion-alley, and Red Lion-place. With the exception of the houses that we pull down in Victoria-street, and some houses surrounding Smith field. the whole is of a very inferior description. 2181. What proportion of that is beyond the City boundaries ?—That is indicated by this line—all south of that line is in the City; all north out. 2182. How far do you go out of the City boundaries? —About 250 feet. 2183. Does this plan provide much better accommodation for both descriptions of steep, cattle and sheep, than the present market affords think so; every portion that is enclosed here will be occupied fur the express use of the cattle. In the present bite the road-ways are it,- eluded in it. 2154. What is the difference between the area appro priated to the purposes of the live-stuck market, accord ing to your plan, and i❑ the present market?—lt is nearly double in this plan. 2185. Will there be room, according to your plan, to tie all the oxen to rails?—Every one. 2186. There will be no ring•droras? —None. Mr. Taylor—At the present time 2,750 only can be tied; we propose to provide accommodation to tie 5.000, which is the maximum number exposed in Smithfield. The accommodation for sheep also in this new plan will be sufficient for the full number that ever has come to Smithfield. 2187. How many do you provide lairage for?-1,000 bullocks and 5,000 sheep. 2188. By what means do you propose to acquire this property which is not in the hands of the City?—By an Act of Parliament. _ . 2189. With regard to the dead-moat market, what is the difference between the accommodation proposed by you and the existing accommodation in Newgstc market ? Mr. Bunning—lt is about three times the area. _ 2190. When you say it is three time as much, do you mean three times the size of Newgate-market as far as it is the property of the Corporation, or do you include the neighbouring houses?—There was a calculation made, that about 60,000 or 70,000 superficial feet would be required, taking the homes alluded to which surround the market. Now in this plan we have 108,800 super ficial feet. 2191. What is the exact difference in point of size beta een this proposed plan and the present extent of Smithfield-market?-1 think it may be fairly computed at twice the area of the present market. 2192. What is the size of the proposed area, not eluding the dead-meat market?—Eight and a (paver acres. 2193. The present market is six?—Yes, that includes the roads; this does not. By the arrangement of the market in the form in which it is here laid out as to carriage-ways, the public will be enabled to pass round the market at every possible point, but they will not pass in any way through it; no vehicle of any kind can pass through it, unless allowed to do so by the authorities. This has been the great object of moving the market place more to the westward. 2194. Was the plan of the dead meat market laid out with the view of superseding all the dead markets in the metropolis, or only Netvgate-market?—Only New gate-market. 2195. What is the nearest point to which any railway comes from this site?—lt is about the same as at the present moment. 2196. C/11 you state the number of animals that could be slaughtered daily 7—They are calculated at 1,000 bullocks a-week, but additional space could be taken to any extent, without injuring valuable property, because from this point of the Sessions-house it is one continuous line of bad property, knackers' yards, gut-spinners, and all sorts of objectionable trades. 2197. Supposing: the area that you have laid down for slaughter-houses should not bo found sufficient, what quantity of land could you add to it ?—Speaking within reason, almost any amount ; it is but to continue north ward. All the property is bad up to the. Session s, house. 2198. Is the burial-ground now used ?—No, it has not been wed for some years. 2199. Is the ;proposed area for the slaughter-houses Within the City, or out of the City ? —That is out of the City. 2200. With respect to the lairage, are the animals all to be tied up ?—Yes. Mr. Taylor—There has been different suggestions made to extend the market. We have had other plans prepared to see which would be the best mode of effect ing the object; but we thought that the remodelling of thee d;ffi a c As u l ei t t ci is,ee s r d andi b n e g t t a e t de r d the t u h g a n pt ol ba it at aht the e l er o owa area the mark et i n t hi s f orm an d i n t hi s p l ace wou ld o b v i a t e m a mar k e t to e n n a g d o t t f h h t e e h r e e m . rem 22 a o in l. more compact than it is at present ?—Exactly so, and it does not interfere with the public roads at all. 2202. Supposing this should be thought sufficient, have you the power still further of increasing the market? Mr. Bunning—By increasing the excavations, and by removing the portion which has written upon it " building frontages." 2203. What space does that occupy—how much could you add?—Not quite half an acre. 2204, Could not the dead-meat market be extended also?—lt might be taken further to the south to that extent. 2205. Are the approaches to the projected live-stock market generally better than those to the present mar : ket?—They are wonderfully improved. '\ 2206. Ate, the approaches to the projected dead-meat market good?—Yes. There is a street 60 feet wide, Victoria-street. The carts never need stand in that street, because there is a 50-feet street on the north, a 50. feet street on the south, and a 50-feet street on the east; and, moreover, it is proposed that on the day of the great market, when there may be 5,300 or 5,400 bullocks brought to the market, as there are far less sheep brought at that time, the bullocks would stand where this line of pens is [pointing it out]; and when the market is not held, the carts that would be waiting upon the dead-meat market could stand between those, and they would be entirely out of the public thoroughfare. 2207. Do you consider that space for the carts, with out Victoria street, to be sufficient for the carts that would come to such a market?—l do; with the facility that could be obtained in the market. It would be very desirable, and it would be the anxious wish of the Cor poration, that no carts should stand in Victoria street. Mr. Taylor—We were anxious in taking up the ques tion to make it as comprehensive as possible, believing that if there were objections to Smithfield Market, there were equal objections to Newgate Market in its present crowded state. Consequently we wished to provide ample accommodation fur the dead-meat market as well as for live cattle. 2208. Is the slope of the proposed site uniform ?—lt is quite gradual. 2209. Will you state what you considered were the in conveniences in the present markets which it was your object to remedy ?—I think it must be obvious, that the principal inconvenience from the present market is the want of accommodation, the want of space. 2210. Do you speak of Smithfield Market, or of Newgate Market, or of both?—Of both. With refer ence to Smithfield, the avenues to the public passing through aro most inconvenient, which is obviated by the plan we now place before you. 2211. Is there any other inconveniences which you think this plan would remedy ?--Another objection to the present market is that the cattle can use the market till three o'clock in the day. But we think that objection might be remedied, by having the market closed at an earlier hour. And there are certain regulations we should propose, which we think we should be able to place before the Commissioners in such a manner as they would approve. 2212. Do you get rid of the riisgsdroves?—Entirely; inasmuch as the room would be sufficient to admit of the full number with ties. 2213. Should, you have sufficient accommodation in the lairs, if the market were closed early in the day to accommodate those that remained ?—I think it very probable that we should have sufficient accommodation for those that might remain after the hour of closing the market. ' 2214. If the market were closed at an early hour you would have an increased quantity left—would these lairs in that case be 'sufficient think if the trade were aware that the market would be closed at an early hour, they would be induced to make their purchases earlier than they do at present. I believe it is in evidence that many ouyers remain, lingering in the market with a view to get the cattle at a reduced price. 2215. Then you contemplated that those who pur chased cattle late in the day would drive them away ? Assuredly. One part of our recommendation would be to make a charge for cattle remaining there after a cer tain time. Supposing seven o'clock to be the hour at which the cattle should leave, if they remain there after that time there should be a certain charge per hour af terwards, so as to offer an inducement to the buyer and the seller to remove their cattle as early as possible. We believe that inconvenience may have arisen to the public from the cattle being driven through the streets at a late hour of the day. And, therefore, wo believe that we should be consulting the convenience of the public if, in any arrangements we make, we were to adopt some mode by which the cattle would not bo in the streets in the middle of the day. 2216. Would some of the regulations to which you advert have reference to that point7—Certainly. 2217.' Can you state whether the Committee who have considered this plan entertain any doubt as to the insufficiency of the present accommodation in Newgate Market, both as to the space and as to the approaches? —We are satisfied that there is a great want of easisfied dead-meat that marketthe sipnayce our whichplan accom modation at present in Newgate Ma rk et; that the space there for the objects of the market is insufficient for the purpose. yo 2 u 2 h lB a . ve assigned would be sufficien t?—l should thi nk, amply sufficient. g y n e e u d to quitethe Indeed, I am not sure whether it would not be sufficient for the sale of all the dead meat which would be neces sary to be sold in London. 2219. Do you speak with reference to the present exigencies or the future?—For the present, and, indeed, I may say for the future. When you look at the space of 34 acres, it would certainly be twice as much as the space occupied by all the houses at present used in the sale of meat in the neighbourhood of Newgate Market. 2220. What would be the arrangements contemplated with respect to the slaughter-houses; are the slaughter houses to be the property of the Corporation, and to be let to the public?—ln carrying out this comprehensive scheme we should make the slaughter-houses part and parcel of the whole scheme, so that we should have a power of control over them. In erecting these slaughter houses we should of necessity clear away a considerable portion of bad property, now occupied for slaughter houses and houses of that description. By having a control over the slaughter-houses we should be enabled to erect them upon the most scientific plan, where there would be as little objection as possible, and I apprehend that upon such a plan there could be no possible objec tion upon any sanitary considerations. 2221. It is proposed that the slaughtering should be carried on by officers of the Corporation, or that the space should merely be le t to p rivate butchers for their use, subject to certain regula tions ?—lt is p ro p osed t h at , subject to cei tain regulations, the slaughter-houses should be let for the purposes of the trade. 2222. You contemplate doing: away with all other slaughter. hutpes except those 7—That would be a very essential regulation if it could be carried into effect di rectly or indirectly. 2223. What is the difference of level between the dead meat market and the top of Long-lane ? Mr. Bunning —About 24 feet. This plan is based upon the assump tion that Holborn-hill is to be raised to a certain extent. A plan has been laid before the Corporation for some time to raise the levels of Holborn-hill, and get rid of that acclivity that we have at present. It was suggested to raise the level 12 feet 6 inches; and if this plan were carried out, instead of raising it 12 feet 6 inches, about 10 feet 6 inches would be advi sa bl e , b ecause i t wou ld g i ve us a greater fall here. By raising the foot of Hol born-hill 12 feet 6 inches, the gradient would be only 1 in 45. A waggon might almost trot upon it, and all the gradients, east, west, north, and south, would be 1 in 45. RAILWAY RETURNS TRAFFIC RETURNS FOR THE PAST WEEK. Miles NAME OF RAILWAY. Receipts. opened, ------. 1850. 1819. 1850. RRITISU. -__ 72 Aberdeen ••••••• • • • • • • • ...... .... £641 £1,381 37% Belfast and Ballymena • . ........„ „ 46,3 518 17 Belfast and County Down.. ........ „ _ 107 16 Birkenhead, Lancashire, and Cheshire 1,046 1,326 27 Bolton, Blackburn, and West York •• • . 413 664 8534 Bristol and Eke: 3r ........,,, 4,145 4,589 160 Ca1ed0nian............. 6,705 7,345 and Perth,A r b an ro d at A h be . r . d . e . e . ,. . 1 J . . unc4i 0 . ; - 3171. 01 667 4.1 943$ Chester and Holyhead. • • 1, 8 2 74 70 2,9!4 32 . Dublin and Belfast Junction 53 Dublin and Drogheda• ..... ........„ 741 926 7 % 1 Dublin and Kingstown .......... „., 709 773 377 3 16 1 119 19 Dundalk and Enniskillen.... .. .. 3 17 5 ' 2 79 East Lancashire ........ 49 15,174 322 Eastern Counties and Norfolk.... ...• 15 . 4- • 2,264 D l) t u u n i d e e e e , 95 Eastern Union . ..... 1,890 4 078 _ ~,, ,_ . 67% 4 East Anglian.... .... 867 35 % 57% Edinburgh and Glasgow .... •,.•,'; 2,636 71 ' Edinburgh, Perth, and Dundee.... • • 2 ' 3 ' 314 18 ' Furness Railway ... ........ • ... • • . -- 0 . , 3 2,968 100 Glasgow, Paisley, and Ayr ........ • • '',„i o 1,052 22% Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock •• • • ", 79 7,219 219 Great Northern and E. L......,,,., '449 5,111 188 !i Great Southern and Western (Ireland) 16'962 17,316 257 Great Western •• • • .......• • • ...• • • 90 Lancaster and Carlisle...... 11,297 14,346 260 Lancashire and Yorkshire........ •• •• 639 1,094 39 Leeds and Thirsk ........ ... • 101 402 123, Liverpool, Crosby, and Southpor t• •• • 46,079 47,437 518 1 , London and North Western .. ' 691 927 55 London and Blackwell .............• 171% London, Brighton, and S ou th Coast 11,002 ,1,12,293 239 London and South West ern . ...... • • ;0,393 130 1362 146 15 Londonderry and Enniskill en .... •• • • 144 137 11% Manchester, Buxton, and Matlock, tic* 4,921 6,280 167 3 / Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire 345 391 9 Manchester and South Junction -- 679 28 Maryport and Carlisle •.••••• • • • • ' • • 23,241 23,858 495 1 4 Midland .•••.--•••• • • • • • • • • " • • 1,2 7 1 1.337 50 Midland Great Western (Irish) ••" '• 2,051 2,239 60 Newcastle and Carlisle.. ••••• • • ' • • ••• 3,180 3,639 1 4 6 North British • • •••• • • • • • • • • • • " ••••• ••• •• - 4,367 5,054 • 222 North Staffordshire •521 47 North-Western ••.. • • ....... •'•• • •• 1,722 1,731 .....- 45 Scottish Central • • • • • • • • • • • • " 32 Scottish Midland •••••••• • • •• • : ; 1,263 1,706 47 Shrewsbury and Chester ••• • :: .. ... o 421 460 30 Shropshire Union .. •••• • • • ..... 58 South Devon ••• • • ••- '... ••" .. ... o 13,003 15,114 234 South Eastern ••• • • • ........... : ... - 895 75 South Wales ...... • • .... . Goole • • - 1,116 69 South York., Doncaster, and 40 Taff Vale .• •••• ' 715 939 330 25 Waterford and Limerick .• •• • • 13 West Cornwall ...... ..... • • •••• ••• _ 211 215 12 Whitehaven Junction ••• • • • • • .,. 4c k 293 York and Newcastle, and Ber', 6,860 8,196 256 York and North Midland ... " FOREIGN. . . 76% Amiens and Boulogne. • • •... . .... 44 Dieppe .. .... • • .. . • ..... ..... 63 Montereau and Troyes •• -.. ....• • • 18,775 22,918 336 Northern of France •• • • *,* •• , , 3,336 3,316 143 Orleans to Bourges (Cent.) .... •.....„ „ 3,531 3,601 172 Orleans to Bordeaux • •‘• •• •• •,, .. •• • • 9,215 9,469 82 Paris and Orleans ••• • ' • •••;,....... 7,258 - 85 Paris and Rouen. •••• '• • • ...... • • 2,642 2,899 59% Rouen and Havre .• •••• • • • LARGE FRIIIT.--SOrile g i gan tic apples and p ears ---- near Paris. Paris. One of the pear s , and weighed upw ar d s o f have been exhibited during t he p resent week,inthesho circumference, a shop garden l a 2 at inches S t . D en girth, of Mr. Mayer, Lord•s trect. They were p rocured from in called Duchess d'Angouleme , measured 11* inches in 14i ounces. The apples. which even surpass the pears in size and weight, are of the sort called Roma, the trees on which they grow having been brought from the Eternal City by one of the officers in the French army of occupation now stationed there. The largest apple measures 1.5 i inches in circumference, and weighs 11b. 01 ounces. Some fine Marie Louise pears, from the gardens of Mr. A. Sinclair, Hillside house, Wavertree, are also exhibited with the above.— Liver pool Mercury. MIDLAND AND SHEFFIELD AND LINCOLNSHIRE. On Monday the directors of both these lines visited Grimsby, to examine the progress of these important works, and from thence to New Holland, to view the accommodation for traffic at this point, with a view, we were given to under stand, of immediately arranging together to work traffic from the North-Western and Midland to Hull, via the Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway, in preference to the Hull and Selby and York and North Alidland, which w i ll be a considerable acquisition to the Lincolnshire line, and no doubt raise it much in value in the railway market. Advertiser, THE ARMY. RETIREMENT OF SIR JAMES M‘GREGOR, BART"— This distinguished veteran officer has resigned his appointment as head of the medical staff of the army. Sir James, who is in the 80th year of his age, en tered the medical department of the army as surgeon of the 88th regiment, and served in Holland and Flanders in 1793 ; in 1796 was chief of the medical staff in Grenada; in 1798 proceeded to India; in 1800 was placed at, the head of the medical staff of the army in Egypt ' - was chief of the medical depart ment in the Walchern expedition, having in 1805 been promoted to the rank of deputy inspector general, and in 1811 joined the army in the Penin sular, and was particularly distinguished by the Duke of Wellington in his dispatches after the sur render of Badajoz and the battle of Vittoria. In 1809 he was made an inspector -general, and in June 13, 1815, was placed at the head of the:medical board of the army. He has altogether been in active service about 56 years, and during his long career has been on halt-pay for only about six months. He is Fellow of the College of Physicians of London and Edin burgh ; he is Fellow of the: Royal Society, and is Physician Extraordinary to her Majesty. He re ceived the honour of knighthood in 1814, and was created a baronet of the United Kingdom in 1831. The late Major-General Slessor served in Ireland during the rebellion of 1798, and was engaged at An trim, and subsequently against the French force under General Humbert, when he was wounded in the head. He was afterwards employed in Sicily and Egypt, when he was again wounded. He was also employed in the campaign of 1815. By the death of Major- General Slessor a vacancy occurs in the list of gene ral officers receiving the unattached pay of 255. per day. Lieutenant-General Sir Edward Blakeney, com manding the forces, has directed that the differences between the Lieutenant-Colonel and Senior Major of the 99th should be amicably arranged, and therefore all further proceedings have ceased. The 28th, 50th, and 82d Regiments were brigaded on Southsea-common on Thursday, under the imme diate command of Lord Frederick Fitzclarence. They went through the practice of pitching tents, encamp ment, lighting camp fires, and cooking. We are sorry to say that on Thursday night another soldier of the 2tith Regiment, named John Bull, a man of two good-conduct stripes, and about twelve years' service, shot himself with his own musket in Anglesea barracks. He lingered a few hours, but died at about one o'clock yesterday morning. No reason is given for these awful suicides. ROYAL ARTILLERY.-GENERAL ORDER. Deputy Adjutant-General's-office, Woolwich, Oct. 17, 1850. His Lordship the Master-General has been pleased to sanction an exchange of companies between First- Lieutenant F. H. Chancellor, of Major Desbrisay's company, 3d battalion, and H. A. Thrupp, of Cap tain Fitzgerald's company, sth battalion. H. D. Ross, Deputy Adjutant-General. A garrison order was issued on the above date, an nouncing that all parades and drills in the afternoon are dispensed with during the three days on which Charlton, or Horn Fair, is held—Friday, the 18th instant, and Saturday and Monday following, to allow the men an opportunity to go to Charlton, which is only one mile west of Woolwich. One lieutenant, four non-commissioned officers, and twenty-four gunners will parade as an extra piquet at retreat beating, during the days of the fair, and patrol the roads to Charlton, to prevent disturbances. The roll is to be called in barrack rooms at nine r.M., and no leave to be granted after that hour. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. APPOINTMENTS-ADMIRALTY, FRIDAY. Assistant-Surgeon—Dr. William Saunders (1844), of the Victory, flag-ship, Portsmouth, to the Birkenhead, steam troop-frigate. Gunner—John Archibold, boatswain • Thomas Harris, carpenter , James Robe r t s , t o the Birken head. Vice-Admiral H. M. Ommanney, and Captain Forbes, of Windsor Forest, are reported to be seri ously ill. PRIZE MONET FOR THE PHILOMEL.—Messrs. Stilwell have given notice that accounts of the balance of proceeds and tonnage bounties for the Brazilian slave brigantine Igual, seized on the 23d January, 1849, of the balance of proceeds and slave tonnage bounties for the Brazilian slave brigantine Andorinba, seized on the 2d February, 1849, and for the slave schooner Astucio, seized on the 11th March, 1849, by her Majesty's sloop Philomel, will be deposited in the registry of the High Court of Admiralty, on the 19th instant. PRIZE MONEY FOR 'FRE SEALARK.—HaIIett, Ro binson, and Co. have given notice to the late officers and company of her Majesty's sloop Sealark, Com mander W. B. Moneypenny, who were actually on board at the capture of the Louisa, on the 4th Sep tember, 1848 (in company with her Majesty's brigan tine Bonetta), that they ,will be paid their respective proportions of the proceeds and bounty received for the said vessel, on Tuesday, the 29th inst., at No. 14, Great George-street, Westminster, where the unclaimed shares will ba re-called for three months.' Com mander, 421. 12a. 9J. ; third class, 51. 13s. Bd. ; fourth, 2/. 16s. 10d.; fifth, 2/. 11s. ld. ; sixth, 1/. 145.; seventh, 1/. Bs. sd. ; eighth, 1/. 2s. Bd. ; ninth, 17s ; tenth, 1 ls. 4d.; eleventh, Bs. 61 ; twelfth, 55. Bd.; thirteenth, 4s. 3d. The Fairy royal yacht tender, Master-Commander Welsh, conveyed from Osborne house to Portsmouth, on Thursday, the Hon. Miss Lennox, who landed at the Victoria Pier, and joined her family at Southsea. Birkenhead steam- frigate, Master-Commander Aylen, is being loaded with provisions and stores with all dispatch at Portsmouth. She has (very properly) landed her heavy guns. Sprightly steam-tender,. Master-Commander Allen, went to Plymouth from Portsmouth on Thursday, with supernumerary seamen for the Portland. Captain Chads, of the Excellent, took a passage in her to visit his son, the captain of that ship, The Royal Albert, Indiaman,sailed from Spithead • for CalcuttavA S l N OF A GOOD ARRANGEMENT.—A o on Thursday evening. E corres pondent, who states that he is a general practitioner, informs us that her Majesty's steam-frigate Tiger, is at this period preparing for active service ; the main obpinusrphoasvees, been and placed main deck has been cleared of all cabins , excepting that of the captain, his clerk's office, and his stewa r d' s , mak ingtor, this "including adapted f officers' warlikecersc cabins every one bei ng prov id e d o gun-room steward," exc e p t i ng t h e a s s istant -surgeon; the cabin allotted for th e c h ap l a i n h as been ordered, " in the event o f h er not carry i ng one," to be made over to the chief eng i neer, a l t h oug h this officer has a proper c a bi n ,hi t h erto f i tted for him t tfa orn deck soc thek good o louver moreod4 tand deck, in the fore part of the ship, near the machinery. This case is very similar to that of the Salamander, where the assistant-surgeon has been treated in the same manner, and a spare cabin in the gun-room given to the engineer. Such is the statement of our corres pondent. It is right that the Admiralty board should be made acquainted with these facts, as we cannot suppose that the members of that body would de sire to act in direct opposition to a deliberately adopted resolution of the House of Commons.—Lancet, Oct. 19. PORTSMOUTH, FRIDAY.—Mr. Penn, master of the Blenheim, and sixty riggers of that ship, who navi gated the Furious to the Thames, returned to-day by rail, the Argus steam-frigate, which they were to have brought back, not being ready. The convict ,whose escape we reported two days since has not yet been taken. PLYMOUTH, OCT. 17.—Her Majesty's packet Petrel went out of harbour yesterday, and sailed for Fal mouth. She takes the November mail to Rio Janeiro, and on her return will be paid off, as the mails, from the Ist of January next, will be conveyed by contract vessels. ----- The Tyne, having been fitted as a transport, will be undocked and masted. . _ __ ..... The steam-vessel Wasp is ordered here, to be paid advance, previous to conveying the November mails to the coast of Africa. The frigate Portland will go out of harbour on the 24th inst. Three divisions of shipwrights and one division of joiners commenced working on Monday on the Phoebe, building in No. 2 slip. The Martyn brig was warped to the sheer hulk and dismasted on Monday, previous to her being put in ordinary. Among the visitors at the dockyard yesterday were at Wellington, s colonists,i na 540 d 0n among t h s to e I n r s . E the lde the e e Bmisehmobperosf for G theloucestheor,rohagnhd Mr. T ev u e ff b n p e o ll r , t, on w e h o o f was accompanied by his Parliamentary agent, Mr. Oram. Mr. Tuffnell and his colleague, Sir. J. Romilly, meet their constitue n t s, b y in vitation, at dinner, at Moorshead's Royal Hot el, D evonport,' to morrow. The ia dsese,a emigrant-shipwngkheorosfr returns o uAustralia, register, Captain R. N. Miller, sailed y es t er d ay f or Adelaide and Port Phillip. Her freight includes two boxes cf specie, value 10 , 0001 ., in sovereigns, f A othe lt r el B pD Elder, , of the firm of Elder and Co., m erc h an t s o f vice Mr. superannuated. rnbseof afterDukeof a hte visit Adelaide; early x months thep,AG,fio George irton. h p rt igeasidreiyeotnal to this Clothier, di tcnhogiiuss:nytoarf Sheerhes Dockyard, will be ap pointed to fill th e office fce vacated by Mr.. . It is appointed timb er inspector, reported that CHATHAM, OCT. 18.—Mr. John Sheffield,foreman Sheffield. The Black Eagle, Master S. B. Cook, sailed from this port on Wednesday, having on board the Sur veyor of the Navy, Sir Baldwin Walker, K.C.8., and proceeded to Woolwich. The schooner Rostock, T. Large master, has ar rived from Riga with a car go o f h em p f or th e d oc ky ar d. 1 The Duck naval lighter, Savage master, has ar- THE HARBOUR OF REFUGE AT DOVER. TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir,—The disaster which is reported to have be fallen the walls of the harbour of refuge at Dover is one to which all similar works are liable while they are in progress. The stability of those at Dover, if finished, was un doubted ; the protection of such expensive under takings while incomplete is, therefore, of great im portance. In volume 8 of the Professional Papers of the Corps of Royal Engineers I suggested a mode of effecting this, and I afterwards made experiments, of which an account is given in number 1,299 of the Mechanics' Magazine, July Ist, 1848. The theory is, that if one spar can be so anchored, in imitation of reeds, as to resist the force of waves, so can hundreds, or any number; by means of num bers, as yet indefinite, still water will certainly be obtained. The late Admiral Sir Edward Owen informed me ',hat during a storm on one of the lakes in Canada he Found shelter to leeward of reeds. I first tried a single spar. I then incurred the ex pense of anchoring 600 short spars, forming a group of 20 by 20. It would require a Government purse to adopt the scale of thousands, so as to have a gr ou p of at least 100 spars in breadth. Supposing that the necessary number of spars were ascertained, they might be placed round a p or ti on o f the wall to be raised, and when that is completed they can be taken up and anchored again at very little ex pense around the site of another portion of wall. I am your obedient servant, P. YULE, Lieutenant-Colonel, Royal Engineers. Edinburgh, Oct. 17. rived from Dover; and the Goodwill lighter, Pledg a Lord Waterford's oh h Lord George, 5 yrs, lost I2lb 1 master, with stores from Sheerness. Colonel Shirley's b g Fogleman, aged, list 3lb 2 Captain the Hon. M. Stopford, and the officers o Mr. J. King' s c h h Shi nrone , age d, f list 51b the Trafalgar, 120 guns, now fitting at Sheerness, Mr. G. Barry's br g Carrig, 6 yrs, 10st slb o intend giving a ball and entertainment on board, on Mr. F. Martin's ch m Lady Sale, 6 yrs, 9st 91b the 21st inst., in celebration of the battle of Trafalgar. Eight paid 2 sous. ft. Invitations have been issued to the officers of both Bitting—Even on L or d G eorge , w h o ma d e a ll his Own running, and won in a can t er . services and the gentry of the neighbourhood. COURT CIRCULAR. OSBORNE, OCT. 18. The Queen and Prince walked this morning in Osborne Park. The Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, and younger members of the Royal Family, walked and rode as usual. Her Majesty and his Royal Highness remain at Osborne in strict seclusion. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent left Cla rence House, St. James's, at two o'clock yesterday afternoon, for her residence, Frogmore, near Windsor. Her Royal Highness, on her way to Frogmore, paid a visit to her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cam bridge, at Kew. Tile . Duchess of Kent was attended by Lady Au gusta Bruce, Baroness de Speth, and Sir George Couper. Dispatches were sent off last evening, from the Co lonial•office, for the Governors of the North American colonies. At Kesteven ,sessions held at Bourn on Monday last, Mr. Thomas Chesterfield, farmer, was summoned to serve on the petit jury, but on its coming to hia turn to be sworn he refused, saying, " I can't take an oath : it is incon sistent with the precepts of the gospel." In answer to the Clerk, he said he was neither a Quaker nor a Moravian, and that when he was summoned on a previous occasion he took the required oath, but he now thought it wrong to do so. The Chairman (General Johnson) read to Mr. Chesterfield the 13th verse of the 6th chapter of Deuteronomy —" Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God and serve him, and shalt swear by his name," adding, " Get over that, if you can : if you still refuse to be sworn, the Court will fine you." Mr. 01 then quoted a part of the 34th verse of the sth chapter of St. Matthew—" But I say unto you, swear not at all ;" and still holding out, he was desired to leave the box, and to remain in court until the Bench had considered the matter. Just before the rising of the court, Mr. Chesterfield was desired to stand up, when the Chairman inflicted a fine of 51., tell ing Mr. C. that if he refused to be sworn on any future occa sion, the fine in all probability would be doubled. Mr. Chesterfield is a member of the Rev. Fred. Tryon's congre gation of Calvinistic Baptists at Deeping St. James.— Stam ford Mercury. FATAL STEAM-BOAT ACCIDENT.-012 Thursday morning, shortly after nine o'clock, a melancholy and fatal accident took place on the river, in Limehouse Reach, whereby the lives of four men were sacrificed. It appears that the Duke of Cambridge, Irish steamer, left Alderman's Wharf, for the purpose of proceeding down the river on its passage outwards. The vessel went in safety until it reached Limehouse, where several steamers passing caused a heavy surf ; at the same moment a skiff, in which were four men and a boy (belonging to the Patent Fuel Works, Deptford), was coming up, immediately in the direction of the Duke of Cambridge. The captain and others on the look-out used every possible exertion to warn the parties of the danger, but before the mem in the skiff could get out of the way, the steamer came right upon it, immediately immersing the four men and the boy. The men never rose, but the boy clung to the fender near the paddle-wheel, from which perilous position he was released and taken on board the steam-boat, where he received every attention. The watermen on either side of the river were promptly on the spot, and were inde fatigable in their exertions to save life, but the violence of the collision was such that' it is fully believed that the men were very seriously injured. The drags were brought to the scene of the sad disaster, but nothing could be discovered until yesterday morning at ten o'clock, when a dredgerman, name(' Tomlinson, brought the body of one of the unfortu nate men ashore at Rotherhithe, having found the same off Cuckold's Point. The body awaits an inquest. THE DODDINGHOEST •MURDER.—The prisoner Drory, who stands committed on the coroner's warrant for this horrid murder, cannot be tried upon the charge for a period of nearly six months—viz., at the Spring Assizes, in March of next year. MARRIAGE EXTRAORDINARY.—In a village not one hundred miles from Laxton lived a tailor and publican, known by the name of " Billy Button." This knight of the shears and goose, on the 2d instant, went to Retford fair, and there met a buxom young widow, on whose heart he made such an impression, that in a day or two after his ar rival at home the damsel made her appearance, termined to become the wife of poor Billy; and he, beinghalf-seas over, readily consented to have the ceremony performed by a larkish gamekeeper who happened to be present. In the presence of the assembled company the ceremony was per formed by the parties jumping ov er a b roo mstick. They were declared man and wife, and this foolish ceremony was considered by them to be sufficiently binding.—Notts Guardian. Mr. Sugden, the almanack maker, of Howden, claims credit for predicting the 'occurrence of the late storm, and states his foreknowledge of what occurred; that " several planets were in powerful aspect during this period, which augment atmospheric commotion, and the more planets are in aspect at the same time the greater the commotion." A MORNING MAIL TO LONDON.—The directors of the Hull Chamber of Commerce, at their meeting yesterday, resolved to apply to the Postmaster-General for a morn. ing mail from Hull to London. The want of such commu nication has long been felt. and we hope that, as the result of this application, it will forthwith be supplied. -1/xll Advertiser. RETIREMENT.—A man who can retire from the world to seek entertainment in his closet has a thousand ad vantages which other people have no idea of. lie is master of his own company, and his own pleasure, and can com mand either the one or the other, according to his present circumstances or temper. All nature is ready for his view, and all ages of mankind appear at his call. He can trans port himself to the most distant regions, and enjoy the best and politest company that ever the world affolded.—.Eliza Cook's Journal. PRESENTATION OF THE FREEDOM OF THE BOROUGH OF INVERNESS TO LORD GOLTGM—The Inverness Courier, in a second edition, gives a long report of the proceedings in the town on Thursday, when the freedom of the borough was presented to Lord Viscount Gough.* The presentation took place in the Town-hall, shortly before three o'clock, in the presence of a large assemblage of the burgesses and neighbouring proprietors. The name of Lord Gough succeeds that of his Royal Highness Prince Albert in the roll of hono rary burgesses. HEREFORD ELECTION.—The election for the county of Hereford took place yesterday, and Mr. Booker was elected without opposition. APOTHECARIES' HALL.—The following gentlemen passed their examination in the science and practice of me dicine, and received certificates to practise on Thursday : George Peal Dunn, Ledbury, Herefordshire; William Hewitt, Reading, Berkshire ; Joshua Hartley, Malton, Yorkshire; Charles Caulfield Moore, Brimpefield, Glouces tershire. A PENNY STAMP FOR RECEIPTS TINDER 501. At a meeting of the Hull Guardian Society, held last night, at the Syke's Head, Wellington-street, John Fower, Esq., in the chair, it was resolved :—" That it is the opinion of this meeting that the interests of the commercial and trading communities require that a reduction in the amount of re ceipt stamps for sums above 54 and under 501., should be made, and that an uniform stamp of id. for every such re ceipt should be fixed instead of the present duties, and that this would, in the opinion of this meeting, produce a much larger revenue to the Government, and remove every fair pretext for the evasion of the duty; and that a memorial to this effect be presented from this society, and signed by the pres•dent, to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and minest ing him to procure an alteration in the law to this effect."— Hull Advertiser. MARRIAGE WITII A DECEASED WIFE'S SISTER.— We understand that a strenuous effort will be made in the next session of Parliament, to carry through both Houses a measure for legalizing marriages with a deceased wife's sis ter. A Bill has already twice passed the House of Commons, and we trust that it will next session become the law of the land. In the meantime, marriages with a deceased wife's sister continue - to be solemnized, utterly regardless of the fact that in law they are absolutely null and void, and the issue are branded with the stigma of illegitimacy. Several persons, occupying respectable positions in society, have married their deceased wives sisters in this neighbourhood, since Mr. Stuart Wortley's Bill was withdrawn This fact shows how utterly inefficient mere law is, when not based on moral precepts, or the Divine com mands. That marriages of this description are not forbidden in Scripture, has been proved over and over again—that they are not inconsistent with the purest moral feeling, is vouched for by hundreds of clergymen, both Churchmen and Dissen ters. The opposition to Mr. Stuart Wortley's Bill proceeded mainly from the very high Church party—the Tractarians, and other semi-Romanists. The great body of the Evan gelical clergy is in its favour; and if the friends of ;the measure are backed up out of doors, their efforts in Parlia ment will, we have no doubt, be crowned with success.—. Western Times. NOTTINGHAM TRADE.—Lace—We have bad but a very limited number of buyers or orders lately, notwith standing the great variety of articles produced under this head. The home trade seems unexpectedly to have fallen cff earlier than usual, and the Germans and Americans are but tardy buyers. There is nevertheless yet plenty of time for them to effect large purchases before the close of the season. Hosiery—Our trade continues good in the hose de partment, whether made of cotton or merino, both for the home and export trades. Silk goods are not in much re quest. Cotton remains unchanged in price. —. Nottingham Journal. LEICESTER TRADE.—Trade continues in a good state, excepting for middle and fine-gauged fashioned hose, which are not in demand equal to the supply. The fancy branch is brisk, and there is every prospect of its continuing so for some weeks to come.—Nottingham Journal. ROYAL WESTERN YACHT CLUB INTELLIGENCE.-- The Sapphire schooner, the property of the Right Hon. Milner Gibson, M.P. tor Manchester, arrived on Monday. She has been to Norway, and also circumferencised, as Brother Jonathan says, the snug little island; she also visited Dublin, Waterford, &c. Yachts about the port:— The Violet, the Right lion. the Earl of Mount Edgcumbe; Sapphire, the Right Hon. Milner Gibson ; Halcyon, Sir Wm. Snow Harris, lint. ; Flora, R. Shurlock, Esq.; Pixie, W. Moore, Esq. Fawn, H. Fillis, Esq. ; Gipsey, J. S. Trelawny, Esq., BI.P. ; Fawn, the Hon. Captain Hare; Grand Turk, T. W. Fox, Esq., arrived from the Channel Islands after a very quick passage.— Plymouth Journal. A fox was crossing the Bristol and Exeter Railway on Sunday, when the three o'clock train was passing : the wheel of the locomotive caught reynard and cut off his head. AN EMIGRANT'S HOME WANTED.—In the dread ful gale of Monday week the emigrant ship Rio Grande, with two hundred emigrants on hoard, was driv en The decks had been swept by the waves , and . bedding to port. eu the d clothing of the poor creatures w ere b back into a b so l ute ly necessary that they should le iren e ch e e t d w ' h to rights. the vessel for a day th wet. It waS or two until the ship c ould be set ghts. As no other plce could be found , they h a d to be sheltered in em and houses, a cellars, ether similar places, totally unfit p for r wome n and children , and sc arcel y fit for men. Fortunatel y , the ship was g ot ready for sea on Wednesday, by great ex ertions, when the emigrants were able to leave their un comtortale places of refuge to proceed on their voyage.—. Liverpool Times. On Sunday evening , as W. H. Kenny, j.p., o f Ro drawingcksavag . m into e, r i oo n the county theount) of Monagan, was p ass i ng from his . , he was fired at from Without and his shoulder grazed by two o r th tce Le h ote. revers ; ether ;bete were found ii the hall. SPO RTIN G INTELLIGENCE. NEWMARKET SECOND OCTOBER MEETING. BETTING ON THURSDAY NIGHT. CAMBRIDGESHIRE STARES. 5 to 1 agst Landgrave 13 to 2 agst Loadstoue 9 to 1 agst The Italian 12 to 1 agst Essedarius 13 to 1 agst Turnus 20 to 1 sgst Trouncer 20 to 1 agst Miss Ann 25 to 1 sgst Russborough 25 to 1 agst Uriel 25 to 1 aget St. Rosalie, 35 to 1 aget Post Tempore 40 to 1 agst Officious DERBY. 6 to 1 agst Grecian 7 to 1 agst Prime Minister—taken 18 to 1 agst Teddington 22 to 1 agst Ariosto 25 to 1 agst Newminster The following is a list of some of the principal visitors during the week:— Marquis—Exeter. Lords—Lichfield, Newport, G. Manners, Airlie, Ux bridge. Stanley, Stradbroke, S. Osborne, Enfield, Glas gow, Exmouth, Strathmore, Walpole, Keane. Ladies—Strathmore, Keane, Pigot. Honourables—Captain and Mrs. Rous, Major Pitt, H. Forrester, F. Villiers, Major Needham, J. Macdonald, Colonel and Mrs. Anson. Sirs—G. Armitage, J. Hawley, B. Pigot, J. B. Neill, W. Codrington. _ __ Colonels -Peel, Newton. Messieurs—G. Fitzroy, Magenis, Greville, Payne, G. Sturt, Newton, Gratwicke, W. R. Read, Jaques, S. Stanley, J. Stanley, J. Bayley, S. Graham, Shelley, Carleton, Lowther. FRIDAY'S RACES. Match, 200 h ft. T.Y.C. Lord Exeter's Phlegra, Bst 41b (Norman) 1 Lord Stanley's Pirouette, Bst 41b (F. Butler) 2 Betting-3 to lon Phlegra, who waited into the cords, and won easily by a length. Run in 1 min. 14 sees. Handicap Sweepstakes of 20 soya. each, and only 5 if declared, &c., to go to the second horse; for three years old and upwards. T.Y.C. (12 Subs, two of whom pay 5 soya. ft.) Sir R. Figot's California, 3 yrs, 7st (W. Sharpe) 1 Major Martin's The Swede, 7st 101 b (W. Abdale) 2 Colonel Peel's Longinus, 3 yrs, 7st 81b ...(Flatman) 0 Lord Clifden'a Strongbow, 4 yrs, Bst 61b (J. Marson) 0 Mr. Jaques's Mildew, 3 yrs, Bst 61b (A. Day) 0 Mr. Delatnere's Fuoco, 4 yrs, 7st 41b (G. Brown) 0 Mr. J. Edwards's Hind of the Forest, 5 yrs, 7st llb 0 Mr. Hobson's Gladiole, 3 yrs, Est 12Ib (J. Osborne) 0 Mr. Oaker's Sisyphus, 3 yrs, 6st 101 b (Charlton) 0 Betting-5 to 2 agst Mildew, 7to 2 agst California, 6 to 1 each agat Longinus and Strongbow, and 10 to 1 agat The Swede. California, Longinus, The Swede, Mildew, and Gla diole laid together in front throughout, the mare win ning by a head, a dead heat for second between Longinus and The Swede, and the other two close up. Run in 1 min. 12 secs. Loadstone was weighed for, and his num ber up for some time. Prendergast Stakes of 50 soya. each, h ft; for two yrs old; colts, Sat 71b; fillies, Bst 51b; winners extra. T. Y. C. Lord Exeter's Midas, Bst 71b (Norman) Mr. Howard's Christina, Bst 51b (A. Day) 2 Mr. Payne's Citadel, Bst Ilb (Flatman) 3 Sir J. Ilawle3's*Brebs, Bst slb (rempleman) 4 Mr. Delamere's GuyMannertng,Bst 7 lb(Bartholomew) 5 Betting— 6 to 4 on Citadel, 4 to 1 agst Midas, and 5 to lagst Breba. Midas made all the running and won cleverly by a length; half a length between ateond and third. Run in 1 min. 14 secs. Sweepstakes of 10 sous, each, for two vrs old; colts, 84t 71b; fillies, Bst slb. The winner to be sold for 40 goys. it demanded. First half of Ab. M. Mr. Gully's Solomon (A Day) 1 Duke of Rutland's f by P anta l oon (Robinson) 2 Mr. Osbaldeston's Staplefield (F. Butler) 3 Betting-5 to 4on Solomon, who won in a canter. Run in 51 secs. Post Sweepstakes of 300 sous. each, h ft, one to the post; colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 41b; 31b allowed, &c. T.Y.C. Mr. Payne's Ariosto, Bst 41b...(Flatman) walked over. Match, 200, h ft. A. F. Lord Exeter's Clelia, re ceived forfeit from Mr. Greville's Cariboo, Bst 71b. Match, 200, h ft. D. M. Duke of Bedford's Bor deaux received forfeit from Lord Exeter's Utrecht, Bst 11b. The sport received an amusing addition in the shape of a time match between Lord Glasgow and the Hon. Captain Rous, the captain undertaking to ride Mahratta from the winning post of the Beacon Course, through the Ditch and back (nearly four miles and one furlong), in twenty minutes. Precisely at 15 minutes past two the gallant captain, attired in an uniform sailor's jacket, plain trousers, and black hat, got under weigh, and sail ing steadily, accomplished half the distance in 7 minutes 20 seconds, and the whole in 14 minutes one second. The match was only for a poney. THE ALLEGED ROBBERY OF 4,sool.—Nothing fresh has transpired with regard to this mysterious affair. No rewatd has been offered, no one has been taken into custody, nor, from all that we can hear, is it likely that any steps will be taken to clear up the matter. The settlement of Mr. P.'s account is deferred until Monday next. CURRAGH OCTOBER MEETING-WEDNESDAY. The racing this day was excellent, the weather favour able, and the attendance large. Subjoined is a return of the running : Sebond Class of Trainers' Stakes, Sweepstakes of 5 soya. 3 ft, with 25 soya. added; for 5 yrs, 6 yrs, and aged horses. One mile and a half on the Peel Course. Second horse to save his stake. Lord Waterford's ch h Lord George, 6 yrs, 7st Mr. Irwin's ch h Ballinafad, 5 yrs, est 2tb Mr. Harrison's b in Lethargy, 6 yrs, 7st 101 b 0 Mr. Cunningham's ch m Miss Fortune, aged, 7st 61b 0 Mr. Courtenay's b m Off-she-goes, 5 yrs, 6st 71b Betting—Even on Lord George. Lord George led from the start to the finish, and won in a canter. Her Majesty's Plate of 100 guineas, for horses, &c.; two yrs old, a feather; three, 7st 91b; four, Bst 101 b; five, 9st 31b; six and aged, 9st 41b; 31b allowed to mares and geldings. Three miles. Mr. Courtenay's gr f Caprice, 3 yrs (Doyle, jun.) 1 Mr. Watts's b c Chatterbox, 3 yrs hifne 0 Mr. Keary's b c Conveyor, 3 yrs ( Il arriso a) 0 Mr. Hyland's b m Allegrette, 5 yrs (Wynne) 0 Mr. Irwin's ch f Mousetrap, 3 yrs (Lynch) 0 Betting—Even on Ch a tt er b ox. Allegretto led to the turn, where Caprice and Chatterbox came up, and the remainder of the race lay between them, Chatterbox winning easily. An objection was made by the rider of Caprice against the rider of Chatterbox, that he had crossed him after passing the blue post, which was de• cided in favour of Caprice, and the race was accordingly awarded to her. Sligo Stakes (renewed) of 25 sovs., 10 ft, for two yrs old; colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 31b. Anglesey post. 31b allowed to untried stallions or mares; 51b to both. • The club will add 40 soya. The winner of the Anglesey Stakes to carry 51b extra. Mr. Colgan's ch f Chaseaway, by Harkaway,Victoria 1 Lord Waterford's oh f by Birdcatcher, Perdita Mr. Quin's br c Whiff 3 Mr. Clancy's b f Kindle-the-wisp (un), Mr. Irwin's b c Lord Edward, Mr. J. Davies' ch c Bamrick, O'Moore's b f by Tearaway, Cerito (un), Mr. Quin's ch f Flame (un), Colonel Westenra's b i Wanton (un), and Mr. Whaley's b or br f Just-in-time (un), paid forfeit. Betting-4 to lon Perdita filly. Chaseaway made the running from end to end; and won easily by two lengths. Third Class cf Trainers' Stakes.—Sweepstakes 5 soya., 3 ft, with 25 sow. added, for two yrs old. Anglesey post. Second horse to save his stake. Mr. Farrar's bl c Tancred, by Tearaway, 9st Mr. L. Keegan's b c Johnstown, 7st 91b Ld.Waterford's ch fby Corranna, Red Rose, 7st 121 b 3 Mr. Kerry's b f by Birdcatcher, Circe, 7st 121 b Mr. M. Dunne's b c Finance, 7st Blb Mr. Irwin's gr fby Tearaway, dam by Rust, 7st 51b 0 Tancred made all the running, closely followed by Johnstown; all the others were tailed off before reaching the road, and the race was left between the two placed— Tancred winning by a neck. Railway Hurdle Race—Sweepstakes of 10 soya., h ft with 50 sovs. added by the Great Southern and Western Railway Company , and 50 sow). by the Tu rf Club. 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