The Sun. — London, England, 1851-07-05 00:00:00

7F-1 tt 4 11 4 , • - 44;azi QUEEN'S BENCH.--(THIS DAY.) (Sittings at Nisi Prins, at Westminster, before Lord CAMPBELL and A Special Jury.) "LLA.3I V. THE LONDON AND NORTH-WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANY. This action was brought to recover the value of cer tain packaged, alleged to be worth between 1,0001. and 2,0004, which were entrusted to the railway company to be conveyed from Liverpool to London, but were never delivered to the plaintiff. This was the second trial, the verdict which was returned on the former occasion for the defendants having been set aside and a new trial granted, on the ground that new facts had been disco vered by the plaintiff. Mr. M. Chambers, Mr. Bramwell, and Mr. Henderson. conducted the plaintiff's case; and the Attorney-General and Mr. Lush appeared for the defendants. The facts of the case were briefly these:—Elam, the plaintiff, was formerly a surgical instrument maker, carrying on business in Oxford-street, and in May, 1849, went to America for the purpose of seeking his fortune. He took with him eight large packing-cases, containing various articles of the value alleged, and arrived at New York on the 29th of June following. He then proceeded to Philadelphia, but being taken ill returned to New York, and ultimately re-embarked for England, bringing with him the eight packages he had taken out, none of which had been opened except one, which was broken open by accident at New York. On reaching Liverpool he took his passage to London by the North-Western line, having previously;booked the packages, which were to be left at the Euston station until called for, and ob tained the usual receipt or ticket from the company. Elam had no sooner reached the metropolis than he was arrested for debts which he had contracted previous to his departure, and consigned first to Whitecross-street, and then the Queen's Bench prison. He was released from custody is November, and in the following month applied at the goods station for the packages he had deposited with the company, when he found they had b.•en delivered up to a person who represented himself as Alfred Elam; and this action was instituted in conse que❑ce of their refusing to reinstate the property. The defence to the action was, that it was impossible that a person in Elam's condition could possess goods to so great value, and that the parties who obtained the packages were accomplices of Elam, and directed by him to get tlassession of them in the way described. Evidence was adduced on both sides, and the trial oc cupied the Court the whole of yesterday until eight o'clock in the evening, and also the greater portion of to-day. _ Lord CAMPBELL having lucidly summed up the evidence, The jury found a verdict for the defendants. RACINGFixT RES FOR 1851. Worcester ............... 9 Jersey******** Liverpool 9 . ........ •••• Manafield ................ 11 Kinnril n Dunnington l4 Stamford ..... I 1 Lty Nottingham Abingdon Marlboaough Wenleck Chelmsford 22 Tiverton Guildford Odiham Bridgnorth Goodwood Chew ton Mendip Downtism Park 3O Kautbford rt nbury 3l UST. Ripon Ne,fth Staffordshire Subscription 5 Brighton 6 Leominster 6 Brighton Club 8 Wolverhtmpton ..... 11 Huntingdon l2 , Reading York SEPTE: SJuthport Plymouth Paisley 2l Catgerbury 2l Stour bridge 25 D. , rby Taunton Egham 27 Lynn Stirling Is'lBElt. Scarborough Eccles Warwick Rochester Lincoln Radcliffe 8 Lichfield .... Cheadle (Staff.) 8 Yarmouth Leicester lO Weymouth .. 10 Liverpool Autumn Hunt 10 Morpeth litfoxeter Dover Doncaster Saudbach Bedford ... 24 Egiinton Park ... 23 or 24 Manchester Autumn 25 Newmarket F.O 3O OCTOB ER. Monmouth Richmond Caledonian Chesterfield 1 Hereford Cheater NOVEMBER. Worcester . First week. WEIGLIrS FOR THE GOODWOOD CUP. Age st. lb.' Age st. lb. Voltigeur Little Jack 4 9 3 Iris Nutshell ( .3ariboo - 4 9 'Lae Marquis Beehunter Essedarius Landgrave Lord George Clincher Rassborough The Nigger 4 8 10Glenhawk Co sack Officious Darkie,bySirller- 'Young Altisidora a 6 8 cules, outoi Dark j War Horse 4 6 8 Susan THE ARNIY AND NAVY. (From the United Service Gazette of this day.) REGIMENTS FOR FOREIGN SERVICE.—The following Regiments of Infantry stationed in Ireland are first un the roster for foreign service, viz :-40th, 2d Battalion; Ist, The Royals; 43d Light Infantry; 57th, 31st, 71st, Highland Light Infantry, Ist Battalion; 89th, 39th, 14th, 9th, 62d, 17tt, 52. t Light Intantry ; 63d, 81st, 35th, 27th, and 90th Light Infantry. GAMBLING AT MALT/L.—Some very awkward denoue ment, teading to rather serious consequences, has hap pened at Malts, in connexion with gambling transac tions. Officers of some of the corps in garrison are im plicated. It is said that the Lieutenant-General has taken measures to put an end to such discreditable prac tices. The offito of military secretary to the Governor- General of the British Provinces in America, has been vacated by the appointment of Major Talbot (43d) to the staff of Sir Richard Armstrong, at Madras. The appointment of milLary secretary to the Lieute nant-General commanding the troops in the Windward and Leeward Llands, has been vacated by Captain Elwyn, of the Royal Artill.ry. Captain Lord Arthur Hay, of the Grenadier Guards, has ceased to be an aide-de-camp to the Marquis of Dalhousie. Major the Hon. G. St. G. Foley, Unattached, has suc ceeded Colonel the H T. Ashburnhaw, as Military Secretary to the Governor of B3mbay. Ensign Cannon, 97th Foot, has succeeded Lieutenant Phillips, of the Royal Artillery, as Town Adjutant at New Brunswick. Lieutenant Hayes, of the St. Helena Regiment, has re placed Captain Barnes, as Town Major. Captain D'Oyley, 11th Foot, has been appointed Aide de-Camp to the Major-General on the Staff of New South Wales. The following officers have been appointed acting pay masters of the depO's of their respective regiments:— Lieutenant Weir, 2cl Foot ; Lieutenant Wilton, 11th Foot; Lieutenant Montenach, vice Captain Pardoe, 15th Foot; Lieutenant Hon. G. B. E. Grant, 42d Highlanders. The following officers have been appointed acting ad jutants to the cl,-15 e of their respective corps: —Lieute nant Herbert, 58th Foot; Lieutenant Ewen, 65th Foot; Lieutenant Shuttlewurth, 68th Foot, vice Storer; Lieu tenant Prettyman, 74th Foot, vice Dillon. Toe acing paymasterships of the depots of the 59th and 65th Regiments are vacant. The honorary degree of Doctor of Ciwil Laws has a_-en conferred by the Oxfard University on Lieutenant- Colonel Francis Riccdon Chesney, of the Royal Artillery. THE COMMAND -IN-CHIEF AT BRAZIL.—It is reported an d we believe on good foundation, tnat Rear-Admiral Houston Stewart, is not a candidate for this corn n,„d ; t h e pliant otfl , er preferring his seat at the Admiral Rear-Admiral Sir William Dillon, K.C.EI., %% named as standing a good chance of hoisting his flag for this station ; but we believe it will not be vacated for s ';° , ls time. Other reporte d arran g ements are noticed isewh ere• TO THE ATHOL STORE• SHIP.—We stated acm e tenant-C ommander time 'nee that the Athol, store-sihip, Lieu- Pearse, bad got ashore near Sierra L ePenguin had been sent down t o reached Sie , and th at h er ~rla e b s u tY t 'sshs lliP she had got off and had rrs stances, the Ad,7:ne. upon a report of the circum- Bruce, the Com m hav e n f upon Commodore Inquiry to havesti accident occurr e d g . --A n't'in-Chiel, to appoint a Court of circumstances un der which the MINING IN--- I tLLIG (From the Mi n i ng Jo 1 \ We have little b usiness I E. N y.. CE, Jour . : 41 of this da being a palpable dulness in the scription of shares, and where business has every de teDrt this week, tnere lower range of prices has been submitted sellers are also appearing of shares in ' pas been done a Numerous pm-chased generally at premiums, and n4t` recoilces, , Whiscteixerted v:irtible at tn.,. present Mar even at ° rY con ' coant ; and W49E01101 as a veryg e a raua a hi e ri,`Ais die has been thus expended, a deadening influenc e i ° ' c 4 Pital upon the more legitimate classes of mines require time to ameliorae. 'rho moment is it will , howeve r , favourable for the capitalist who looks beyond temporary influences, and we cannot do better than reiterate our opinion that the best chosen time tl make purchases in mining property, is in a calm like the present. A special meeting of the members of the Mining Ex change, and which was attended by nearly every member, was held at t h e Jam a i ca C,,ff,e- house on Tuesday last, J. Y. Watson, Esq., F.G.S., in the chair. The meeting wus called, as it was generally understood, at the request of a few of the meriThers who had been loud in their complaints against the management of the Exchange, but upon the chairman calling upon those who had com plaints to rask , ) to come forward, no one responded to the e‘ll, arid there was, in fact, nothing before the meeting but t',) go through the rules seriatim, and which was done, some being altered, some expunged, and others made, to sui'.; general requirements. In the Metal Market, copper continues very firm. Xeliere is a great improvement in lead, some extensivo TEtE SUN, transactions having taken place, and large orders re ceived from the United States. British tin is steady, with a fair business; foreign is easier. Tin plates are in request. The London imports include—from Bilboa, 283 bags of antimony regulus • Antwerp, 8 barrels of zinc; Cartha gena, 1,100 pigs of lead; Stettin, 11,625 plates of spel ter; Ghent, 5 barrels of zinc; Rotterdam, 10 casks of barytes, and 27 casks of plumbago. The arrivals at Swansea include—from Hamburgh, 105 tons of spelter; from Cuba, 535 tons of copper ore. The price of gold in bars (standard) was 31. 17s. 9d. per oz.; silver, ditto, ss. cid. per oz.; and new dollars, 4s. Hid. per oz. Wheal Trelawny sold 100 tons of lead ore, at 201. Is. 6d., to the Tamar Smelting Company: the lowest ten der was 181. ss. per ton, by Penpoll. Great Wheal Baddern sold on Wednesday 38 tons of tin, at 131. Bs., to Sims, Willyams, and 22 tons at 11/. 17s. Callington Mines sold 45 tons of silver-lead ore to Thomas Somers, at 161. 16s. 6d., the lowest tender being Pontifea and Co., 131. Bs. 6d. Allt-y-Crib Mine sold 30 tons of silver-lead ore, re alising a profit of 160/. on the month's working. Penrhiw Mine sold 10 tons of silver-lead ore, at 81. 15s. 6d. per ton; the cost of raising being 60/., leaves a profit of 271. 15s. Court Grange sold two parcels of silver-lead ore-52 tons at 15/. 16s. 6d., and 3 tons at 121. per ton = 9581; the cost of raising being 300/., leaves a profit of 5581. There is nothing new since last report. Daren sold 10 tons of silver-lead ore, and 20 tons of copper ore, leaving a profit of 110/. The ticketings for 90 tons of Foxdale lead ore varied from 101. per ton by Thomas Somers, to 111. ss. by Pon tifex and Wood. Bronfloyd sampled 15 tons of silver-lead ore. The western end has got into an excellent course of ore worth 201. per fm.; tne eastern end, shaft, and stopes are all in excellent ground. Among the dividend mines in our journal of this week, we may refer to the Levant, tin and copper (St. Just), which resumed working about 29 years ago, in 160 sh a res, the payment upon which, 21. 10s. each (4001.), brought theta into a profitable state. The total amount of dividends paid since has been 164,8001., or 1,0301. per share, the original cost of which was 2/. 10s., and the selling price now is 1601., or 25,600/. for the concern. The Carn Brea Mines have declared, as their 79th dividend, 2/. per share (2,000/.), making the total paid 204,000 L, on an outlay of 15,0001.; the amount per share (151. paid) being 2041. At North Puul meeting, on Tuesday, the accounts for March and April showed—Balance from the last account, 4221. 12e.7d.; ores sold (less dues), 4,8171. 25. 11d.= 5,2391. 15s. 61—To costs and merenants' bills, 2,374/. 103. 4d.; dividend of 15/. per snare, 1,5001.: leaving balance in favour of adventurers, 1,365/. ss. 2d. The shares were subdivided, and the mine is now considered as being in 200 shares. At West Caradon meeting, on 26th June, the accounts showed-Ores sold, April (278 tons at 71. 75.), 2,051/. 3s. 6d.; carriage paid by purchasers, 66/. Os. 5d.; ores sold, May (331 tons 3 cwts. at 6/. 14s. 7d.), 2,228/. 3s. 6d.; carriage, 781. 12s. 10d.; materials sold, 461. 175.=4,4701. 17s. 3d.-Pureer and clerk's salaries and office expenses, 821. 3s. 5d.; labour cost, March and April, 2,9841. 103. 10d.; rates, 2/. 13s. 10d.; doctor and club, 461. 2s. 5d.; merchants' bills, 7331. 4s. I Id.; lord's dues, 274/. 12s. 7d.: leaving profit. 3471. 9s. 3d; to which add balance last account, 1,5311. 12s. Bd., and de duct dividend of 2/. 103. per share (6401.), leaves valance to next account, 1,2391. Is. I Id. The next sampling, it is estimated, will be about 300 tons. At Wheal Tremayne meeting, on the 25th of June, the accounts showed, Balance of last:account. 324/.2 s.2d. ; black tin sold, 2,487/. Bs. 7d.; copper ore, 2921. 163. 9d.; arsenic, 132/. 6s. 6d.; carriage of tin. 25/. 15s. .=--3,262/. 9s. 91; lord's dues (1-20 r h), 1451. 12s. 7d.; labour cost or March, 805/. 18s. sd. ; April, 8961. 9s. 2d,; mer chants' bills, 7271. 14s. 3d.; leaving balance in favour of adventurers, 6861. 15s. 4d.; less dividend, 5121. leaves A balance in hand to next account of 1741. 15s. 4d., the profit on the two months being 3621. 13s. 2d. Adivi dend of 10s. per share was made. At the Balleswidden meeting, held at the mine on Monday, the accounts for two months ending April showed-Tin sold, 4,488/. 4s. 9d.; sundries, 101. Is. 31.; balance from last account, 1,550/. 1 ts. 9d..=6,0481. 17s. 9d. Mine cost for March and April, 2,864/. 4s. 4d.; coals, 1871. 18s. 10d.; carriage 84/. 153.; merchants' bills and dues, 895/. 33. 10d.; 32d dividend of ss. per share, 4061. leaving balance in favour of adventurers, 1,6101. 15s. 9d. At the annual meeting of Wheal Golden, on Wednes day the accounts showed-Balance from last account, 409/. Ils.; ore sold, 7,2494 13s. 9d.; profit on shares, 99/. 18s. 10d.; received on the new shares, 3,6951. 11,454/. 3s. 7d. By agency and direction, 266/. 15s. I Id.; stems, 4824 4s. Bd.; bargains, 1511. 16s. 5d.; tutwork, 1,4401. 6s. 5d.; tribute, 1,2304 Bs. 6d.; machinery, 941/. 15s. 3d.; coals, 3241. Bs. 3d.; carriage, 2141. 17s. 3d.; freight, 230/. 6s. 7d.; dues, 209/. 3s. 1 Id.; rates, 201. 5d.; stores, timber, &c., 413/. 15s. 10d.; horse keep, &c., 2541. 15s. 9d.; two dividends paid, 2,0004: leaves balance in favour of adventurers, 3,273/. 3s. 10d. A dividend of ss. per share was made. The Fowey Consols accounts for Jan., Feb., March, and April, show-Mine cost for Jan., 3,136/. 17s. 11d.; for Feb., 3,239/. I ls. 7d.;; for March, 3,309/. 18s. 9d.; for April, 3,280/. 1 Is. 11d..---12,967/. Os. 2d.-By sale of 24 parcels of copper ore (including carriage), 10,9291. 4s. 6d.; for three cargoes of mundic, 2061. I0s.; sun dries, 241. Os. 9d.: showing a loss of 1,8071. 4s. lid., which, deducted from credit balance end of December, 7,4401. 13s. lid., leaves in hand for next account, 5,6331. 9s. At Budnick Consols meeting, on Monday, the accounts for January, February, March, and April showed -Balance last account, 1341. 17s. 2d.; costs and mer chants' bills, 1,8351. 19s. 1d.=.1,970/. 16s. 3d. By ores, &c., sold and carriage, 1,0541. 19s. 5d.: leaving balance against adventurers, 9151. 16i. 101. — At the West Wheal Jewel special general meeting, on Wednesday, the resolutions passed on 3d June were con firmed, that the capital be increased by the issue of 3,715 preference shares of 11. 10$. each, the object being to work Ruselobby Mine, which is north of the present workings at Tolearne. At Callington Mines quarterly meeting, on Wednes day, the accounts showed—Balance last account, 2,1141. 15s. 3d.; costs to the end of March. 3,0801. 14s. 10i; London expenses, 1331. 105.; interest and discounts, 15/. 10d.=-5,344/. 12s. 11d. Returns of silver-lead ore, 2,3651. 6s. Id.; reserve fund transferred, 6194 ls. 5d.: leaves balance to next account, 2,360/. ss. sd. At Treloweth Mine quarterly meeting, on Tuesday, the accounts showed—Balance from last account, 7441. Bs. 14.; labour cost to end of May, 3601. Bs. 10d.; mer chant' bills, 1931. 18s. 5d.; law charges and office ex penses, 601. 19s. 10d. = 1,3691. 15s. 21—By call, 7501.; waving balance to next account, 6091. 15s. 2d. The ac counts being audited and allowed, a call of 15s. per share was male. At Heignston Down Consols meeting, on Tuesday, the accounts showed-Balauce last account, 331/.165. 4d.; received on loan, 1501; on account of call, 1001. 17s. 6d. 6321. 13s. 10d.-April costs, 2611. 15s. 9d.; May, 2761. 19s. 6d.; Captain Roberts fur inspecting and re porting, 51. 55.: leaves balance to next account, 881. 13s. 7d.; c 3113 due, 251. 17e. 6d.; estimate of copper ore, 2351., makes 3491. 11s. id. assets. The liabilities to end of August are-June coat, 270/.; July, 3501.; office ea penses,:26l; repayment of loan, 1501. 7961.; leaves debtor balance of 4461. Bs. 11d. A call of ss. per share was made. At the Bodmin Consols meeting, on Saturday, the accounts showed—cash in hand, 107/. 17s. 7d.; balance at bankers, 300 L ; instalments and lien on shares, 2601. 7s. 9d. ; estimated value of the machinery, mate rial 4, &c., 5841. 14s 4d. ; ore at surface 1364...1,6981. 19s. Bd.—The liabilities were, 3201. 9s. ; leaving balance of assets over liabilities, 1,3784 10s. Bd. At a general meeting of shareholders in the Daren Mine, on Monday, W. Adam Davidson, in the chair, Captain Matthew Francis Steward produced the cost-book kept at the mine, and showed that 1,922/. 193. had been expended out of the original capital of 2,0001., and about 7201. received for copper and silver-lead ores ; and further stated that the mine was now making re gular returns, which gave a profit of about 1001. per month. The ten tons of silver-lead ores were sold on the 26th June, at 131. 16s. 6d. per ton ; and about 30 tons of copper ore were in course of dressing for the market. At Wheal Crebor quarterly meeting, on Monday, the accounts were examined and passed, showing-Calls, 2,8471. ; copper ores sold, 1921. 13s. 7d. ; discount, 51. 12s. ,3d.; sundries, 131. ls.; loan, Tavistock Bank, 1504 3,2081. 6s. 10d.-By purchase of mine setts and materials, 4311. 16s. 61.; law expenses, 641. 3s. 9d.; preliminary ditto, 771. 133. I Id.; machinery, 19/.; office expenses, 1191.25. 6d.; books and stationery, 101. Oa. 6d.; printing and engraving, 521.17 e. 3d.; travelling expenses, 101.; lords' dues, 41. 14s. I Id.; labour and cost of mate rials, 1,7951. 4s. 6d.: leaving balance in favour of adven turers, 6231. 135.-consisting of arrears of calls, 279/. ; bills receivable, 113/. Is. Bd.; balance at bankers, 231/. I Is. 4d. The liabilities are : loan as above, 150/.; mer chants' bills, 1751.; steam-engine, 910/ =1,235/ ; to meet which there is the above balance of 6231. 133., and 32 tons copper ore, valued at 1604 ' • but the amount for the is payable, one-half in three mouths, and the other half in six mouths, from the date of delivery. At the Appledore meeting, on Wednesday, the ac count showed-Balance last account, 2701. 55.; sale of materials, 86/. 6s. 7d.; call, 512/.868/. I Is. 7d. By la bour cost for April, 65/. 12s. 10d.; ditto, May, 621. 143. 1 Id.; merchants' bills, 1121. 3s. 3d.; bill due, 22d inst., 2001.; ditto, August, 1751.: leaving balance in hand, 253/. Os. 7d. At Millpaol meeting, on Friday, the accounts, for four montus ending April, showed-Balance from last account, 975/. 3s. Id.; costs and merchants' bills, 1,0871. 11s. Id.---2,062/. 14s. 2d.-By ores sold (less dues), 173/. 14s. 5d.; call in February, 1,024/.: leaving balance against adventurers, 864/. 19s. 9d. A call of 11. per share was made. At East Wheal Ellen quarterly meeting, June 24, the accounts showed-Balance ladt account, 2s. 7d.; costs to end of &larch, 751.2:. 81 ; merchants' bills, 53/. 4s. 3d.; ....128/. 9s. 6d.-Less call, 62/. 103.: leaves balance to next account, 651. 193. 6d. A call of s s. per share was meeting, on the 27th June, the accounts for March and April showed-Mine cost, c1;4:%4:1:t0.2W1.91h3d.e..al Caroline 5.1 materials, 611. 73. 7d.; lord's dues, 2991. I Is. 4d.= leaving balance rigailat in so . 5041. Si. ; b ala nce fromi last 37i. account, Bd . : was made.adventurers, 467/. 4s. 9d. A call of 5!. per share At Wheal a accounts s h -el lnY meeting, on the 27th of June , the 251/. 3 9 . 3d. " e d a balan ce against the company of accounts for March At Gonamene Min Bs. 2d.; materials, a :meeting, on the 26. fh of June, the balance from last acco un t, 4d. 1401 201 4 April allowed-Mine cost, . the adventurers of 202/. 18s?'71e"ing -By ores sold, 211/ Bs. Bd.; 18s, 10J.4141. 74. 3d. ; lord's dues, 13/. 25.11 d.; At Tokenbury Mine meeting, . last account, 1684 15s. 9d.-Mine the accounts for April and May on zee t c ost,haebB2al77a4tnhcle7oefa:Jiauoi Jane, showed - -Balance from LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 6 ) lB5l. materials, 251. 14s. 5d.: leaving balance in favour of adventurers, 551. 2s. 11d. A call of 1/. per share was made. At Craddock Moor Mine meeting, on the 26th of June, the accounts for March and April showed-Ba lance last account, 1171. 18s. 10d.; by call, 105/. 10s.=--- 2231. Bs. 10d.-Mine cost, 72/. 9s. Bd.; materials, 201. 9s. Si; leaving balance in favour of adventurers, 1301. 9s. 9d. A call of 10s. per share was made. At Wheal Mary (Redruth) meeting the accounts for March and April showed-Balance from last account, 1951 3s. 6d. ; costs and merchants' bills, 1,0751. 183.= 1,2711 Is. 6d.-By ores sold (less dues), 591/. 15s. 4d.; call in April, 4951.: leaves balance against adventurers, 1841 6s. 2d. A call of 7s. 6d. per share was made. At the Santa Ana Mining Company's annual meeting, on Monday last, the accounts showed-Expenditure, 46,2621. 19s. id.-Income, 29,9871 leaving a balance against the company of 16,2751. 19s. ld. Shares have changed hands in Alfred Consols, Bed ford United, Devon Great Consols, Tremayne, Tincrolt, East Wheal Leisure, West Wheal Jewel, Butterdon, Venton, South Tolgus, South Caradon, Spearne Consols, Wheal Mary Ann, Trelawny, West Caradon, Merllyn, Garreg, East Wheal Russell, Boringdon, Park, Hennock (lead), Wheal Arthur, South Tamar, East Tamar, Pen zance Consols, and Wheal Lemon. Inquiries are made for West Caradon, Trelawny, Bed ford United, and South Tamar. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 4. MASTERS' JURISDICTION IN EQUITY BILL. On the motion for the second reading of this Bill, Lord CRANWORTU expressed a doubt as to whether the Bill would work satisfactorily. After a few words from Lord LYNDHURST and Lord BROUGHAM, the Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be referred to a Select Committee. CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL. Lord REDESDALE presented a petition from the company of clothworkers of the city of London, praying to be heard by counsel against this Bill. SMITHFIELD MARKET REMOVAL BILL. Lord BEAUMONT rose to move that the standing orders be not insisted on in relation to this Bill. It was of such a public character that it was really to be considered as a public Bill, and ought not to be thrown out upon a mere technicality. Their Lordships had always taken care to defend private interests affected by public Bills, and there was nothing in the motion which he proposed to prevent parties interested from being heard by themselves or their counsel against the Bill. It was the custom of their Lordships with regard to really private Bills, to insist by their standing orders upon the parties affected having due notice of the inten ptthiroaontvios f ii ot t n h sw e oa isfn the t r i m o d pß u oi c sl e is r i s bh la o ed f b t t the i ß mo i fa l l gs ; jun b eeh u tph i u n abt th c i e s vne case e t i the . habitant of the metropolis had not had ample notice. It was true that th ere was no f orma l not i ce given in the Gasette in October last, but such an adver tisement would have given the parties interested no more information than they had before. Communica tions had passed between the Government and the Cor poration of London on the subject, and the latter had in reality had perfect notice, and had no substantial grounds of complaint. In many similar cases, such as the Regent's Quadrant Removal Bill, no reference had taken place to the Standing Orders'Committee. The Battersea Park Bill, the Chelsea Bridge Bill, the Holy head Harbour Bill, had all been treated as public Bills, and the Bill for removing the Haymarket had been treated as a public Bill by their Lordships. In this Smithfield Market Removal Bill there was no clauses repealing any charter, and no injury had been done to the Corporation by their not receiving notice. His individual opinion was, that it was a public Bill, but he put it to their Lordships whether, even if they con sidered it as a private Bill, they would not assent to a suspension of the Standing Orders. Lord REDESDALE considered this motion to be of great importance, as well on account of the importance of the Bill to which it related, as on account of the in nate justice of the case. First of all, his Noble Friend insisted that this Bill ought not to have gone to the Standing Orders Committee at all; and then he argued, that even if it ought to have gone there, and if the Com mittee had reported against it, the report ought not to be regarded, but the standing orders ought to be sus pended. In the other House of Parliament no one ever ex pressed a doubt about sending this Bill to the Standing Orders Committee; and it had been very properly sent there in that House, as it was also sent here. It was esoentially a private Bill, and if their Lordships should once allow the Government the power of bringing in a private Bill without affording to private interests the protection which they had always hitherto enjoyed, they would expose the rights and properties of individuals to dangers to which they bad never hitherto been exposed. The Noble Baron had then maintained that if the Bill were a private Bill, the standing orders ought to be sus pended, and had quoted precedents to show that they had be en frequently so suspended. But on what grounds had that been done? It was always in cases in which the &landing Orders Committee had reported that the stand ing orders ought to be dispensed with. He undertook to prove that there never was a case in which it was so clf.ar that the standing orders should be complied with as the present. One of the reasons for establish ' ing the standing orders regarding private Bills was, that it was only fair that those whose private interests were assailed by bills of attack should have time given them to prepare for defence. Now, what would have been inure easy in the present case than for the Government to give Vie corporation notice of its intention to proceed with this Bill during the present session? It was proved in the evidence before the other House that soon after this close of the last session the Government had sent a communication to the corporation in which they asked whether it was their intention to remove the market, and th at the reply of the corporation was that it had no such intention. He maintained that on receiving that reply the Government should have served the corporation with notice of their intention to introduce this Bill. The con sequence was that the corporation, not having received &Li); notice from the Government, resolved to bring in and did bring in a Bill of their own. He had watched, as it was his duty as chairman of the Standing Orders Committee to watch, all the proceedings in the present Bill, and the protection which he now awarded to the powerful corporation of London he should have awarded to the weakest an poorest corporation in the kingdom. He asked their Lordships calmly and deli berately whether the corporation of London had done anything to forfeit its right to such protection? Uunder these circumstances, unpleasant as it might be to him to oppose the further progress of this Bill — which might be a desirable Bill, although not regularly introduced—he must resist the present Emotion. He did conceive it to Le a very unusual course for the House to se t aside the conclusion of the Standing Orders Com mittee. That Committee had a right to expect the sup port of her Majesty's Government. If it had not such support, it was impossible that its duties could be either ad equately or properly discharged. Alter the title of th is Bill, and suppose that it was not Smithfield but Co vent-garden Market that it affected—suppose, further, that the Duke of Bedford, as proprietor of the latter mi irket, came to the Sanding Orders Committee and claimed its protection—suppose that Committee reported in his favour, would not their Lordships, one and all of them, come down to the House in order to protect him from the attack irregularly made upon him by the Go vernment? That protection which their Lordships would be ready to give to a member of their own body, why sh ouid they withhold from the Corporation of London? H e cared not whether it was a large or a small, a rich or a poor corporation; but so long as he had the honour to remain in the chair of the Standing Orders Commit te P, so long should every corporation and every private in dividual receive from him the same protection. With th at determination on his mind, be must oppose the pre sent motion. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE observed that the question then before their Lordships must be considered, ncit only with reference to the standing orders, but also wilth reference to the importance of the Bill itself. The Noble Baron opposite (Lord Redesdale) had only dibcharged his duty in defending the report of the Standing Orders Committee. Valuable, however, as he cot asidered the services of that Committee in the protec deal which they gave to property, they never were so valuable as to exclude the consideration of the public benefit to society at large in case of great contemplated cb.anges. Although the statute-book was filled with at tempts made from year to year to separate public from private Bills, they would find that in many public Bills private interests were involved, and that in many private Bills public interests were also affected. When he heard it stated that this was a private and not a public Bill, he could only reply that it was a Bill for the supply of this great metropolis with the most important article of food in the best manner in which it could possibly be sup plied. A private Bill, and yet with such an object! In every other country in Europe but our own the means of giving the best supply of food to their subjects was con sidered so much a matter of public interest that the Government would not leave it in any other hands but its own. The best means of supplying good, cheap, and wholesome food to the inhabitants of this great metropo lis never could be considered as a matter of private in terest ; and therefore it became the Government, watching over the public interest, to provide that every one in this huge metropolis should have the means of obtaining meat in its best state and in the most effectual manner. His Noble Friend (Lord Beaumont), in the able speech with which he prefaced this motion, had referred to several Acts of Parliament as prece dents for the course which he advised the House to take with regard to this Bill. He had shown that, in the case of the Opera Colonnade Bill, in the case of Batter sea-park Bill, and in several other cases, private inter ests had been held to be subservient to public interests. The importance of those Bills sank into insignificance when compared with that of the present Bill, which bad not been introduced without notice or without inquiry, but after inquiry continued from year to year—which was in iteelt a sufficient notice—and after discussions, in Parliament and out of Parliament, which had placed every man, woman, and child in this metropolis in a si tuation to know the object of this measure. The grounds stated by the Noble Baron opposite were not, in his opi nion, sufficient to set aside a measure required by the public for the public benefit. The object of the Bill was to set aside a private monopoly for a public good; and it was in reference to that object he now gave his un (pal fled support to his Noble Friend's motion.—(Hear, hear.) Such applications as the present ought not, he admitted, to be made on slight grounds; but, in this case, the grounds were strong and unquestionable. If the day should ever come when there was the same necessity for removing Covent-garden market as there now was for removing Smithfield-market, he should be among the first to assent to a similar motion under similar circum stances, just as he knew that his Noble Friend the Duke of Bedford would be the first, and not the last, to as sent to the removal of such a nuisance.—(Hear.) The Duke of RICHMOND was sorry that he felt himself bound in common justice to vote in favour of his Noble Friend's (Lord Redesdale's) view of the question—for he had a perfect horror of limithfield market—it was injurious to the public, ay, and it was injurious to the agricultural interest, inasmuch as it was not large enough to contain the beasts which they sent to it, and which were thus damaged and deteriorated in value. He wanted, however, to know, why Government had not given notice to the corporation in time, and why it was in such a hurry to proceed with this Bill, when it could introduce another regularly within six months' time ? Let the Bill be thrown out now, let due notices be given, let another Bill be brought in next session, and then he (the Duke of Richmond) would vote for it. His Noble Friend opposite had produced some prece dents for his motion; but his Noble Friend had not told them that the Acts which he referred to as precedents had ever been ref erre d - to the Standing Orders Com mittee, or that that Committee had reported upon them at all. Now, who were the Members of that Committee? Peers of the highest character, chosen from both sides of the House, to see that private interests were ade quately protected. He bad attended many meetings of that Committee, and unless their Lordships backed it with their support, instead of overthrowing its deci sions, that Committee would be rendered worthless, and he doubted whether they would be able to obtain Peers to attend upon it. He repeated that Smithfield-market was at present an inconvenience and an injury to the country—he had a downright horror of it—but he could not get rid of the regard which he thought due to pri vate property. Earl GRANVILLE felt very grateful to the Noble Duke for the admission which he had made as to the merits of this Bill, and for his acknowledgment of the very great evil which it was intended to remove. He (Ball Granville) would not enter at present into the merits of the Bill, but would confine himself strictly to the question on the standing orders. He agreed with the Noble Marquis, that in ordinary cases it was import ant that the standing orders should be complied with. But there was a great difference between a Bill of this magnitude and importance and a private Bill of the .or dinary character. When a public Bill was introduced into the other House of Parliament, if on the face of it any of its provisions affected the rights and interests of any individual or of any corporate body, it was referred at once to the Standing Orders Committee, to see what injury would be done to the rights and interests of that individual, or of that corporation. Then the Standing Orders Committee considered whether the parties would be put to more inconvenience by its being introduced as a public or a private Bill. If the interested parties were put to more inconvenience by its being introduced as a private Bill, then, if the due notices were not given, as in a private Bill, the proceeding ceased; but, if not, then the Committee considered whether they would be placed in the same favourable situation as if it had been intro duced as a privste Bill. In this case the Committee of the House of Commons found that no injustice would be done to the corporation of the city of London by introducing this Bill as a public Bill; but on one particular point it ordered a notice to be given to the corpora tion in the course of March last. The Noble Earl then proceeded to examine the question whether any injustice had been done to the corporation by the course now pur sued, and, after some reference to the evidence given before the Committee in the House of Commons by one of the corporation officers, concluded that no injustice had been committed. When they recollected the notice which the corporation received from the Secretary of State in July last, and when they also recollected the publicity which had been given to the subject by the Committees which had been appointed, and by the in quiries which had been instituted, he thought it quite absurd to contend that any injustice had been inflicted on the corporation in consequence of the notices not having been given, which, it was said, the standing orders required. He was of opinion that, if the House did not agree to the course proposed by his Noble Friend (Lord Beaumont), it would bring its standing orders into disrepute, and would not increase the respect now paid to the House itself. The Marquis of SALISBURY said that the motion of Lord Beaumont, if carried, would deprive the corpo ration of London of a boon conferred upon it by ancient charter. If their Lordships should adopt that motion the conclusions of the Standing Orders Committee in every instance would be called into dispute. Lord BEAUMONT observed, that his Noble Friend had said that if his motion were adopted, we should cast a slight on the reports and character of the Stand ing Orders Committee. He differed from his Noble Friend, and joined issue with him on that point. The Standing Orders Committee could not report otherwise than it had reported on this Bill. That Committee was appointed to investigate into the fast whether the stand ing orders had been complied with, and had properly reported that they had not. It was for their Lordships to decide whether greater injustice would be done by adhering to their standing orders or by suspending them. The report, he admitted, was correct, and in due form; but the right of enforcing the standing orders was not with the Committee, but with their Lordships. The cor poration had not had formal, but it had received suffi cient notice. It could not, therefore, suffer any injury from the adoption of his motion. The Earl of DEVON contended that Lord Beaumont had not described satisfactorily the whole functions of the Standing Orders Committee. It was not correct to say that the Standing Orders Committee had only to in quire into the fact whether the standing orders had been complied with—for that Committee, having established the fact that they had not been complied with, had authority to recommend that the Bill should not be proceeded with. It had also authority, if the justice of the case required such a recommendation, to recommend that it should be proceeded with. Now the Committee had not given such a recommendation with respect to this Bill; and in ab staining from this recommendation had, in his opinion, exercised a just discretion. The question in this case was simply this,—" Is the Bill of such importance that it is absolutely necessary to pass it this year?" He had looked very carefully into the provisions of the Bill, and he did not think that it would accomplish such an amount of public good as would instils , their Lordships in dispensing with their usual orders for the protection of private rights and vested interests. Lord BROUGHAM observed, that in voting for the motion of Lord Beaumont, he merely voted on the point of the propriety of dispensing with the standing orders. All those Noble Lords who were opposed to the removal of Smithfield-market—and he confessed that he was strongly in favour of its removal—would have an oppor tunity of stating their opinions hereafter, tilid would not be precluded from opposing this Bill by any vote they might give now. He had originally been of opinion that this Bill should have been treated as a private Bill, and that the standing orders as to notices ought to have been complied with; but on more mature reflection he had had more than doubts of the correctness of his con clusion. This market of Smithfield was impeachable or rather indictable as a public nuisance. —(Hear, hear.) It might, he repeated, be so proceeded against. [ The Lord Chancellor said a few words—we did not hear them —seemingly in contradiction to this dictum of Lord Brougham.) He repeated that he thought that Smith field-market was a public nuisance, and that the rights of the corporation were endangered by continuing such a nuisance. It was a nuisance as a market, and it was a still greater nuisance on account of the dangers which environed the public in its avenues and approaches.— (Hear, hear.) By the course proposed by his Noble Friend opposite, those who opposed this Bill were not shut out from opposing it; the corporation was not shut out from defending this nuisance. It might still resist the general cry for improvement, and might still main tain its right to stand by its ancient nuisance. —(Hear, hear.) It was not true that the House of Commons had treated this as a private Bill. It was theretore for their Lordships to consider whether they would treat it as such. It, however, he were asked, "Supposing it to be a private Bill, will you suspend the standing orders?" he had no hesitation in replying that he would, and give his support to Lord Beaumont's motion. Lord REDES DALE observed that it was the duty of the Committee under the standing orders to state their opinion, and to report it to the House, on the question whether those orders had been complied with, and whether, if not, the Bill should be proceeded with. In this case the Committee had reported in the negative on both these questions. If this motion were carried it would be the first instance in which the report of the Standing Orders Committee had been disregarded and set aside; and it would open a door to injustice which they would have great difficulty in closing here after. The House then divided, when there appeared — Content ••• ••• ••• 76 Not content ... ... 22 Majority ..• ••• —54 The result of the division is that the Bill for the re moval of Smithfield-market will be proceeded with. PURCHASE OF LANDS (IRELAND) BILL. Lord BEAUMONT moved the second reading of the Purchase of Lands Facilitation by means of Trust Funds (Ireland) No. 2 Bill. Considerable sums of money had been lent on landed property in Ireland under the provisions of the Act known as Lynch's Bill, the trustees being first mortgagees; but since the En cumbered Estates Act was passed, a puisne creditor had power to force the sales of an estate, and the prior mortgagee was precluded from bidding for the property or interfering in the sale. Tue property was thus sold for what it brought, and the mortgages were therefore rendered comparativ,ly valueless. The Encumbered Estates Act by its operation had depreciated the value of land throughout Ireland generally. Unless they took steps to enable capital to go to and remain in Ireland they would make the Encumbered Estates Act, which might have been most useful measure, one of the most dangerous charact 9r, against which the hostility of the country would be undoubtedly directed. The Bill he proposed would pre vent that danger. He moved that it be read a second time._ _ The LORD CHA NCELLOR opposed the Bill. He trusted their Lords hips would not allow the money which had been appropriated for trust purposes, by men long gone t their graves, to be transported to Ireland, in order to purchase land there, and exempt trustees from the liability to which they were subject, and to which they ought to remain subject, to make good the loss arising from their lending money entrusted to them on improper and insufficient security. Ho moved that the Bill be read a second time that day six months. The Earl of GLENGALL supported the Bill. It would in some measure tend to modify the operation of the Encumbered Estates Act. That House would be de graded and disgraced as long as they allowed that in famous and arbitrary Act to stand upon the statute book. Under it, property which was formerly worth twenty years' purchase, now sold for ten years' value; and thus, up to the present, upwards of a million of money was lost to the creditors of Irish property. Lord BEAUMONT replied, and defended the Bill against the arguments of the Lord Chancellor. The Noble Lord said that so convinced was he of the justice and necessity of the measure, that, though he might not succeed in carrying it, be was determined to divide the House upon it, confident that it must puss on some fu ture, if not on the present occasion. Their Lordships then divided, and there appeared— For the second reading 3 Against it ... ... 16 Msjority against the second reading ... —l3 The But was consequently loot. The Survey of Great Britain Bill was read a third time and passed, as was also the Hainault Forest Bill. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMOLVS, July 4: BATTERSEA PARK AMENDMENT AND EXTENSION BILL. A Bill to alter and extend the powers of an Act of he ninth and tenth years of her Majesty's reign, inti toiled " An Act to empower the Commissioners of her Majt-sty's Woods to form a Royal Park in Battersea fields, in the county of Surrey," we, i presented, read a first time, ordered to be read a secon d time on Th ur sday next, and to be printed. MERCHANT SEAMEN'S BILL. In reply to Sir H. WILLOUGIL3Y, Mr. said he proposed to take the Moral ant Seamen's Bill ut twe l re o ' c lock on Thur s day next. _ _ CLESIASTIC AL TIT LES BILL. On the t notion for the third reading of this Bill being proposed, Mr. J. ' , O'CONNELL said, as it had been found that it W enl'd be more generally convenient to take the debate on the question that the Bill do pass, he hoped the third reading would be agreed to without discussion. Mr. REYNOLDS could not sanction the third reading of this Bill of pains and penalties, because his opposition remained unabated and unaltered. The answer given by the Noble Lord at the head of the Government to a question put by the Hon. Baronet the Member for the - University of Oxford yesterday, led him (Mr. Reynolds) and those with who& he had the honour to act, to believe that no one in the House knew what sort of Bill this was ultimately to be. In fact, the Noble Lord who was the author of the Bill, could not tell what new shape it was likely to assume in the next 24 hours.—(Hear.) However, wiser men, and men more experienced in the proceedings of the House than himself, had advised that no division should take place on the third reading, inasmuch as, according to the forms of the House, it would not be competent for the Noble Lord to expunge or alter any clauses until the Bill had passed that stage. In giving his consent, therefore, to the mo tion, he begged it to be understood that it was that kind of consent which an oyster gave when it was going to be opened.—(Laughter.) Ho was not prepared to lend himself to such a farce as dividing upon the third reading. This political and religious camelion had changed its hues on every discussion, and what the next hue was to be, whether green, black, or arab, entirely depended on the collective wisdom of the nation.— (A laugh.) He begged to be specifically understood as reserving to himself the right of expressing an opinion upon this Bill of pains and penalties against his creed and his country when the motion was made that the Bill do pass.—(Hear.) The Bill was then read a third time. On the question that the Bill do pass, Lord J. RUSSELL said the first amendment which he had to make was, as he had stated yesterday, in the second clause. It was not his intention to propose any amendment on the preamble, upon the addition of the Hon. and Learned Member for Abingdon, upon which the House had decided. He would not interfere with that decision. But in the second clause an amendment had been introduced without a debate, which was almost the same in substance as that proposed by the Hon. Baronet on the 6th of June, and which had been rejected by 133 votes to 129. The objection to the clause now introduced had been then stated by theAttorney-General, and was to the effect that if they made a certain act the subject of a penalty they would be, in fact, creating two offences under the Bill. There was another part of the amendment about prosecution for publication in a news paper, which the Government thought unworthy the con stitution, and too small and paltry a subject for proceed ings on the part of the Crown, This part he also ob jected to. What he proposed, therefore, was to omit all the words in the clacse from the words " any person" in _ _ the 27th line to the same words in the 32d line. Sir F. THESIGER, said the Noble Lord at the head of the Government had dealt with his (Sir F. Thesiger's) amendments with his usual skill and dexterity.—(Hear.) On what grounds the Noble Lord opposed his amend ntent he could not see; and more especially as the Noble Lord had said it did not make any particular alteration in the general scope of the Bill. He said he would abide by the decision of the House; and therefore he was now astonished at the Noble Lord's opposition. He would advert presently to the discussion on the first clause as it now stood. In answer to questions put to him, the Attorney General had expressed an opinion that a misdemeanour was created with respect to these briefs and rescripts. But he had not at present to dis cuss that point with his Hon. and Learned Friend. It was clear that any offence created by that clause was an offence with regard to past briefs and rescripts only. That being so, let them consider whether his Hon. and Learned Friend had not conceded all that he (Sir F. Tnesiger) required upon the present occasion—v;r, the necessity of making some provision with respect to any future brief or rescript that might be introduced into this country. What was the nature of the offence, if any, that was involved in the first clause? He appre hended that it was an offence which might be said to be contained either in the Act of the 16th of Richard 11., or in the 13th of Elizabeth. It must be an offence either for bringing those briefs or rescripts into the country, or making notification of them, or executing them in any way, as provided by the statute of Richard IL, or else it must be an offence as provided by the statute of Edza beth for using in any place within the realm " any such bull, writing, or instrument, obtained from the Bishop of Rome." Now they had been warned that the object of their legislation was, as the Noble Lord had expressed it, " to repel a pretension to power over the realm of England, and a claim to sole and undivided sway, which was inconsistent with the Queen's supr,macy. But how were they to accomplish that object? Certainly not by the legislation which the Noble Lord had pro posed, because that legislation had been directed merely against the assumption of titles, and could have no practical effect whatever. It appeared, however, that no brief or rescriot was of any avail until it had been received and published; and it was, there fore, against the receipt and publication of such docu ments that they ought to direct their legislation. In deed he should say he believed it would be impossible for them to reach the root of the evil without directing their legislation to that object.—(Hear, hear.) He felt sure that the Noble Lord and his Hon. and Learned Friend the Solicitor-General would readily concede to him that a brief er bull was of no authority until it was published. That was the doctine which had been ex• pressly laid down by Dr. M•liale in his evidence before the Commissioners of Education, and by the professor of canon law at Maynooth. Now bulls were published by the authority of the bishops. As bulls and briefs were of no avail until they were published, he was anxious to know whether her Majesty's Ministers meant to say that the statute of Richard the Second should be in force at the present day against aggres sions of that kind; and he had frequently asked that question, but he had never been able to obtain an answer from the Noble Lord, or from his Hon. and Learned Friend the Solicitor-General, or from any of the supporters of the Government. In the clause which he had proposed he had considerably mitigated the se verity of the statute of Richard IL, and nobody would think of applying the penalties of praemunire, the very nature of which was almost unknown at the present day, to any offence of that kind. He had framed his clause in the mildest spirit of modern legislation, and ia, the very direction which the Noble Lord had said they ought to pursue. What were the objections urged by the Noble Lord against that particular clause? The Noble Lord had repeated the objection of his Honour able and Learned Friend the Solicitor-General that the clause would iuffict cumulative penalties. Now, the answer to that statement was, that the two of fences—namely, the offence of procuring a brief and the offence of publishing a brief were completely dis tinct; and the penalties attached to those distinct of fences could not be considered cumulative penalties. He could see no reason whatever why distinct penalties should not be applied to each offence. The next objec tion of the Noble Lord was that the words publishing or putting in use within any part of the United King dom any such bull, brief, or rescript" might possibly apply to publishing bulls, briefs, or rescripis in a news paper; and the Noble Lord bad added that that was too paltry an ofThnce for any Attorney-General to conde scend to prosecute. But the Noble Lard was entirely mistaken upon that point. The publication of a bull, referred to in the clause, was such a publication as that which he had already described, by affixing it to the church doors, or by publishing it throughout the different churches in each diocese. The p u bli ca tion to which the Noble Lord had alluded was not the publi cation of a bull, but the publication of a copy of it, and would not come within the operation of the clause. The Noble Lord had further stated that he objected to the term " procuring " those bulls from Rome, because it would be very difficult to obtain any evidence of that fact. Now that difficulty might exist; that might be an unfortunate circumstan )e, but they ought not to refuse to pass an enactment which was right in itself merely because there might be a difficulty in enforcing it. Those were all the objections which the Noble Lord had stated to the clause; and he (Sir F. Thesiger) appealed to the House whether he had not satisfactorily answered them? —(Hear, hear.)—But the Noble Lord bad suggested that those additions to the Bill had been introduced by him (Sir F. Thesiger) in the spirit of persecution. Lord J. RUSSELL—I said quite the con.rary. Sir F. THESIGER, continued—He was obliged to the Noble Lorti for that statement. His object had been to meet the views of the Noble Lord in that matter, and to make the Bill of the Noble Lord conformable to his own declared intentions. It was not a battle of Churches they were then discussing, but a contest between two supremacies; it was a q uest i on, as the Noble Lord had truly stated, whether her Ma jesty the Queen was to be the undoubted Sovereign of her realm.—(Hear, hear.) They were certainly suffer ing considerably from the weakness and uncertainty of their legislation. It appeared that this country had of late attracted the special care and attention of his lioli ness the Pope. He perceived that th ere h ad late ly been issued from the printing press of the " Royal Apostolic Chamber" in Rome an appeal t o th e p i ety a nd charity of Italians, which was of a very singular chara cter. In that document it was first of a ll state d , t h a t " among all the foreign missions, th a t o f London p r esented the greatest hopes and demands;" and he afterwards found in it the following pa ssages ._. The project has been approved by ecclesiastical author ity of building a spie cious church in the centre of L on don, iu a tine position, in one of the most majestic street s in the cit y , princi pally for the u se o f the Italians, and thence of oth er foreigners, as well as of the native?. In this way there will be in the capital of the British empire a church, Roman, not only i n its faith and principle, but also in its rites, i n its ceremon i e s, and . the practices o f sound devotion ; a church similar in its mate rial construction to the ancient .Christian temples; a church which, at t he express wish of the Holy Father, will be dedicated to . theeerince of the Apostles, St. Pter; a church which will be al wa y s kgo verned by a congregation of Italian secular priests founded at Rome, that the Roman spirit may always in- The holiness of our fl uence the same.—(Elear, hear.) Lord Pope Pius IX. has, in his provident zeal tor the good of religion and souls, by means of the holy con gregation for propagating the faith, and of that of the bishops and religious orders, caused this great work to be most urgently recommended to the charity of Italian believers and to the zeal of the bishops of Italy. More over, the Most Eminent and Most R.v. Cardinal Wise man, Archbishop of Westminster, Ordinary of London, has equally recommended this most interesting work. And the Most Eminent and Most Rev. the Cardinal Vicar has published a second notification, dated March 26, 1851, in which he repeats his recommendation to the Roman charity of this most pious object. Finally, his Holiness himself, by his rescript to the holy congregation for propagating the faith, dated ;March 9, 1851, has granted an indulgence of 100 days to whomsoever shall contribute any alms to this end." That document from the Pope was accompanied by a " notification" from the Archbishop of Florence, from which he would read the following extract;—" I should further announce that his Holiness Pius IX., et the r e ,; quest of certein English Catholics, has deigned grant an indulgence of 100 days to whosoever maY three Ave Marias, with after each, the invocation Auxil, Christianorum era pro nobis, and plenary indulgen ce e 4 one day at their own choice, to whoever shall have relit,. them for one entire month, provided that, having c ° 6l fessed and communicated, he shall pray p a rticularly a t; the Catholic Church of England." Now he appee le ,,„ Hon. Members whether a few years ago, before we "of deprived ourselves of the securities against such octl r r aggression, we should have been exposed to those net pealed attacks and insults?—(Hear, hear.) Be ta ,0 we had disarmed ourselves, we had subjected ourse' to constant attacks of that description. It aPP es b r ili that the Pope at present put forth his pretensions /l i d relying upon the unfortunate divisions which preY e a l tri in this country. He called upon Hon. Members be it was too late to be warned by the conduct of the 1 . 0 ; See as to what they were to expect in future, and te;i : deavour if they possibly could at the present mom make their legislation of such a character as wool' adequate to meet the dangers by which they were p compassed.—(Hear, hear.) He confessed it appeare°, him that if they then failed, that could only be heel', the guardians of our Protestant Constituticn, o . having neglected their trust, and after having 0; 4 tiously encouraged the advances of the Roman Cath ee „ had, in the midst of the difficulties of their positw thought proper to support at the last moment a messt,l; which could offer no real security against the aggre ssl of the See of Rome.—(Loud cheers.) The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that his e• and Learned Friend bad certainly shown at the cool sion of his speech that he was animated by a very ferent spirit from that in which the Bill had brought forward by her Majesty's Government. believed that the proposals of his Hon. and Lest's,, Friend would not materially alter the character of Bill; but it was evident, from the latter part of ; speech of his lion. and Learned Friend, that, to opinion, Parliament bad gone too far in granting Relief Bill of 1829.—(" Hear, hear," from the Mie if ) rial benches, and counter cheers from the opposition s !, of the House.) Those cheers of Hon. Gentlemen op r site made their sentiments upon that point perfectly ifo telligible, Those Hon. Gentlemen disapproved Of e measure of 1829; but the Bill introduced upon the P 8 sent occasion by her Majesty's Government went 00 directly opposite principle. The object of the GO, ment was to adhere to the arrangement—he woul d , i ; call it compact, for there had been no compact—of 1° ; ) The Bill recited in the preamble, and afterwards, et d suggestion of his Hon. and Learned Friend the ' At, l , l " l neey-General, it was declared in the measure itself, '" the act which had given such offence throughout d; country was an infraction of the existing law; 1 0 4 proceeded to provide that the restriction wbiob existed in the Act of 1829 with respect to all exis ts ; sees of the Established Church should be extend e d„ any sees named from cities or towns in the T 3 , 111 ,y Kingdom. The Bill entirely abided by the spirit 01 ;) clause in the Act of 1829. which had clearly for its !i ject the prevention of conflicting titles by the assume`") of a right to sees on the part of the Roman Catb bishops. His Honourable and Learned Friend had 1 16 y o i whether her Majesty's Government thought that it tij be advisable to prosecute under the Act of Richard Now he (the Solicitor-General) had no hesitation iD ing that it would not be advisable. No one could tsl at the present day of instituting a prosecution in e i c v to enforce the penalties of premunire. With regat. the Act of Elizabeth, it was well known that nothi liP the penalties of that Act remained, although the ceeding against which it was directed continued to 0 misdemeanour. The Bill, as proposed by her Mili e° js Government, would punish the assumption of titlesl, the amendment of his Hon. and Learned Friend toi punish the publication of bulls. Now, that latter rangement would be an infraction of the Act of 1829. would be an alteration in itself vexatious, while it l°° l l, be productive of no special advantage whatever. ventured to say that the offences which his Hon., h , Learned Friend would create could never be estab lt i against anybody. His Hon. and Learned Y re o would punish with a penalty of 1001. the o ne l i of procuring a bull from Rome; but was it pro b o that any person could ever be convicted of 11 offence upon any evidence on which a jury could t - ' O l , He should further say that he believed the judges o f 1 , country would not attribute to the word ''publish;r o , the meaning which had been attached to it by his P l i f and Learned Friend ; and that the publisher of a e e ) paper, who should insert a bull in its columns, / I° , o l, not escape from the penalties which his Honourabl e Learned Friend would impose, under the plea tsar; had merely inserted a copy of the document. His and Learned Friend seemed to suppose that if he oly, t i persuade the House to agree to his amendments i O lO instance he might hereafter persuade them to leg li o in the spirit to which he had referred towards 4 conclusion of his observations, in a spirit which Wu til ! lead them to repeal the Act of 1829, by which ' p t had effaced from our statute -book the last rano p i of anything in the shape of persecution. The o°s ments of his Honourable and Learned Friend ' c is not framed in the spirit of the Act of 1829 ; an was on that account, and not because he thought t's was any real stringency in those amendments, the'o , hoped the House would refuse to give to them 0 sent.—(Cries for a division.) f pi Mr. ROEBUCK said that from the speech 0 fel Hon. and Learned Friend the Solicitor-General be l l sure that his Hon. and Learned Friend did not to stand—he would not say his own Bill, for it attFe s a at present to be nobody's Bill—but th e measure t', before the House. He regretted to find his Hog; Learned Friend the Member for Abingdon (S ir o o Thesiger) addressing himself to the stale prejudic e o f the House, and employing his powers in endeavetlLA to drag back the public mind to that thraldom "01 which it had been so long relieved. His Hon. l y Learned Friend had talked about insults from Pope, from the Archbishop of Westminster , y f the Archbishop of Florence. Now, as 1'4 111 ;0: the Archbishop of Florence, it appeared that to of had asked was that people should pray for success of the Roman Catholic religion in Engl l/ oli and tbat surely was a perfectly unobjectionable Then the Pope proposed to build a church in Lott). but he could not see how that proceeding differed "d the course taken by the Society for the Propagattewf the Gospel in Fur. ign Parts.—(Hear, hear.) His Poi and Learned Friend the Solicitor• General said thet of alterations of his Honourable and Learned Frien d of Member for Abingdon would not materially affee, t o d Bill; but he was sure that that was not the opini ° Irt his Honourable and Learned Friend the Member o r Abingdon. In his (Mr. Roebuck's) belief his f(on ° o , able and Learned Friend had made the Bill more O f e gent and more mischievous. It was impossible tO veru the country on the old principle of excluding man Catholics. Of this the Duke of Wellington, Lyndhurst, and Sir R. P ee l were we ll aware in I ‘ l ,'e, when they propos e d th e E manc i pat i on A ct . Th e Co t o ll lio religion th e n was recogn i se d, an d it w as impolto for the Catholic religion to exist without communiceol with the Pope of Rome. Parliament knew well woo they were doing in 1829, and no one better thee i y Lord Chancellor of that time, who, in 1828 had 03 ,01 the most powerful speech against emancpation. ko l Duke of Wellington and Sir Robert Peel also, 1 "0 personal honour was almost pledged to resist it Pd these three came down to the House of Commona e d l the House of Lords, and declared that they could Pol govern the country on the old principle—tbat they 133 d it, admit the Catholic religion, and those who professe 0 0 to all the privileges enjoyed by other subjects. It $ 1 impossible for a statesman not to see at that time th ti v broad gulf was drawn between their past and future 0 ghlation, for they then admitted the Catholics in fact o well as in name. Now, no man could be a C a theo unless he acknowledged the Pope to be the head of ,10 religion. This Bill said that eve' bull described in preamble should be null and void. What would be tb°„r suit if this Bill be came l aw ? Th e Attorney an d Solioitvo, Generals and th e N o bl e L or d a t the head o f t h e Goll r o y ment supposed th ey cou ld con trol this Bill. Th ey co uld V ia Suppose he, b r i ne a P rote staut, had a C at h o li c con the result of a C at h o li c marriage. Th e l aw s aid Y„, cousin was a b astar d, and be (Mr. R oe b uc k) w as filo posed to be the next heir to the estate. He brough t bo l act cousint against his cousin, and he proved i t, er t Catholic priest. I , P a oi his was married by a being no registration in Ireland, the parents could haveho married gone t o the themw registry.a was H e proved that the po o l w ordained by no other WV than by the Archbishop of Armagh. He proved t e A. 8., c alling himself A rc hbi s h op o f A rmag h, wag a lO p o inted by a Papal rescript, such as those describe' po this Bill. These consequences would follow. Being r ,) ap pointed, he would b e no arc hbi s h op at a ll . —(fjel!of The priest whom h e h a d or d a i ne d wou ld a l so b e no Prl at all.—(Hear.) The priest was not a priest—the r ° ( I e l iege was not a marr i age—h i s cous i n was b aste r di se d t ~„ the verdict must be for the plaintiff.—(Laughter.) was astounded at the ignorance which that laugh :di played. It w as a ll very well to make li g h t o f the n3rti`,o but did any one believe that such actions would 1 10 419 brought?—(He a r.) C ou ld a ny man suppo se that ' c if Bill would not light up the torch of discord in Irela°oo —(Hear, hear.) Did any one believe that if a 03 0 thirsting for an estate saw such a means open to hirev obtain it he would not try his chance at law? The l3 o ing the H ouse f or t h e a tt ent i on w i t h w hi c h they ~ heardhim, he would go no further. He protested not 013 6 1 agaicst the amendments of the Hon. and Leal Member for Abingdon, but against sanctioning 5 0 . 4 , Bill at all. It would be the groundwork of dissenal"o litigation, and misery, and, if put into execution, W° be be a brand of discord in Ireland, and if not, would be shame of that. House and of Parliament.—(Cheers.) a , Mr. NAPIER rose to speak, but the noise and ic°, l : o ( tience or the House for a di v i s i on was so grea t, that a' d , essaying in vain for some minutes to obtain a heart" - the Hon. and Learned Member resumed his seat. i ho The Irish Members, as on a previous occasion, left House in a body. The House then divided, when there appeared— Fur Sir F. Thesiger's amendments ... 208 Against them ... 129 Majority ——7 9 .0 The announcement of the numbers was rec e ived 1 / 1 loud cheers. oat Mr. FRESHFIELD then rose to mo ve , " T o leave,; - ,. all the word s a f ter the words 'Unit e d Ch urc h,' p. 2, '?0-% 43, to the end of the clause, and to insert the follow s 4 words:—' Every such person shall be deemed to be : o f offender under this Act, and, being lawfully convictet!or any of the offences bereinbefore mentioned upon it' d/ a l ment or information, he shall be adjudged to depart c id , of this realm within a tim e t o b e li m i te d i n su ch .in e l; went, not exceeding three calendar months from o ° l o conviction, and a certificate of such judgment, under k g , seal of the court pronoun c i ng suc h judgment, or the i ve nature of the proper officer of the said court, shall pc forthwith deposited by th e prosecutor o f suc h indictiv e o l ' or information at the office of her Majesty's Prtu ci fl i s Secretary of State for th e H ome D e p ar t m ent ; and if 1 0 person so convict e d s h a ll b e f oun d w ithin this Oa D e after such time in ouch judgment limited, it oh ali THE IRISH CENSUS. The Irish census will show a deficiency of above 2,000,000, as compared with the numbers which would have been attained this year had there been no interrup tion of the ordinary rate of increase. On the last three occasions of taking the census the numbers were— In 1821 ... ... 6,801,827 1831 ... 7,767.401 1841 ... 8,175,124 The report about to be published will show, in 1851, very little more than 6,500,000. The same report will also show a remarkable decrease in the number of " houses," as compared with the number in the preceding census, and, of course, still greater as compared with the number which would have appeared now had the former rate of increase been maintained. The anticipations which we have recently expressed in our notice of the census of Great Britain will, therefore, be confirmed by the facts which have now to be officially reported. The most startling fact of the census will be, that whereas the ordinary law of increase, had it not been interrupted in its operation, would have shown progress at the rate of 6 per cent., the returns now made pres'ent instead, a de crease of about 20 per cent., the decrease embracing above a quarter of the population which it was antici pated that Ireland would possess at the present time. That these anomalous phenomena may be properly accounted for and correctly appreciated, there are some considerations to be taken into the account, which it may not be the duty of the Irish Census Department to pre sent for public consideration, but which it may be well to observe in connexion with the leading facts we now present, and which will be laid before the country in A considerable proportion of the deficiency about to be officially reported in the Irish population is attributa ble to the scarcity of food, to the sufferings of the poor from the want of fuel and shelter during inclement seasons, and to the scourge of the cholera, diarrhoea, influenza, and other epidemic and en demic diseases, which have been carrying on their destructive operation in that country with unusual force during the last 10 years. While these causes will aid the inquirer, in reterence to the d,ficient population generally, it will be seen that some of them will apply to particular localities in a manner highly suggestive to those who for the last 10 years have directed their at tention to the way in which things have been managed in Ireland. The principal cause of deficiency, however, will not be found in these evils, but in the progress of emigration, affecting the population throughout the whole of the term under consideration, and during the last two or three years, as every cne knows, at a rapidly increasing ratio. During the last 10 years the emigration from the United Kingdom has amounted to above 1,600,000, of which amount, as is well known, Ireland has furnished more than its natural proportion, sending out numbers by whose departure the country has been in some parts completely drained of its population. This fact is referred to for the purpose of noticing a feature it pre sents, and which, if it should not at first attract attention, ought to be considered, as it furnishes an element of im portance in any calculations that may be made for the purpose of accounting for the strange aspect which the Irish census of this year will present. It should be then observed, that the emigrants from Ireland generally are not the aged nor the very young, but persons whose removal would in a few years sensibly affect the natural increase of the population by the increase of births over deaths. The necessary consequence has been, that ; great numbers of those births which would have been re-1 gistered in Ireland have been registered in the United States or the colonies, and many of them in this country. If any attempts should be made hereafter to show how the movement of the population from one country has affected the numbers in another, the fact referred to will be found of great importance, and it may be proper that it should now be noticed,as illustrating another tact connected with the increase of the population of England during the last ten years. After making allowance for causes unfavour ably affecting the English population, it appears that the natural increase in this country is not sufficient to ac count for the numbers we have reached, and that amount would not, we apprehend, be fully accounted for by th• numbers of immigrants from Ireland. Our num bers, it will be found, have been augmented by a considerable quantity of Irish children who have had the misfortune, or the good fortune, to be borne out of their own country. The same element will be found to apply very largely to the United States, and to have its influence on the vast increase which they have received during the last ten years. —Times., STEAM CARRIAGES on PUBLIC ROADS. A very ingenious steam locomotive for the conveyance of passenger and goods' traffic over common roads has been lately patented by our fellow-citizens, Messrs. Clark and Motley. The chief peculiarities of the invention will be gleaned from the subjoined description, which has been handed to us by the patentees. The entire machine is intended to consist of an engine of from six to ten horse power, to which is attached an omnibus or long-bodied carriage, capable of accommodating forty persons and a certain quantity of luggage. With this load the patentees assert the capability of their invention to attain an ave rage speed of ten miles per hour on ordinary roads, and the power of ascending inclines of one in six or eight. A speed of sixteen miles an hour might be checked and the engine brought to a stand-still in the space of sixteen feet—an important consideration where there is any dan ger of a collision. The engine comprises-Ist. An appara tus for steering with certsintly and facility at any required speed, on any kind of road. 2d. Suspension of the machinery in such a manner that all jolts or concussions arising from bad roads shall not be injuriously commu nicated to the machinery, so that wear and tear will be considerably reduced. 3d. The power to be increased or decreased according to the state of the roads, or the resistance to be overcome. 4th. A boiler of the strong est mechanical form with the least possible weight of material. Also a means of preventing priming, or the water boiling over into the cylinders of the engine, and likewise a means of insuring the perfect contact of the water with the heating surfaces of the boiler under all circumstances. It is cheap iu fir s t cos t, durable in wear and easily repaired when out of order, and will occupy but a small space for a given power. sth. The most economical application of the steam power, by keeping the cylinders hotter than the steam employed therein, by which all condensation of the steam during its expan sion is prevented, and to work the steam at such a pressure that the greatest effect may be produced by being worked expansively. 6th. To apply the power equally to the two driving wheels under all circumstances of passing curves, &c. 7th. The carriage frame to be made of sheet iron, rivetted together in such a manner, that the water tanks, &c., may be formed of the same, so that it will be strong and of light weight. The im provements in the passenger carriage or omnibus-Ist. To be 12 inches wider than the common omnibus, that passengers may go in or out without discommoding those sitting down. tad. To have a door on each side that passengers may be taken up or set down from the pave ment. 3rd. To have the carriage heated by the exhaust steam in cold weather. 4th. To divide the passengers into two or more classes. A model of the engine has been exhibited during the week, at the offices of Messrs. Hinton and Son, solicitors, Small-street; it met with deserved praise and encomium for its simplicity and evi dent adaptation for the purposes contemplated by the patentees.—Bristol Gazette. SEABORNE MAILS. (N signifies that the mails are sent fron► the General Post-Ofilee by the night—and M by the morning —dispatch.] When made up in I From what PLACES. GeneralPost-otice , port die- When London. patched. due. America (by Brit, pkt.) N July 11 Liverpool .. July 6 America (by U.S. pkt.) N July 8 .. Liverpool July 9 America (by U.S. pkt.) M July 16 .. Southampt. Juiy 10 Africa (West coast).. N 14th of the month Plymouth July 3 Alexandria* • • ...... N 19th & 30th of mo. Dover .. July 18 Belgium .. N pally .. Dover .. Daily Brazil .. . M 9th of the month Southampt. July 12 Buenos Ayres M 9th of the month Southampt. July 13 California( via Chagres) M 2d& 17th of month Southern pt. July 5 Cape of Good Hope N 14th of month Plymouth .. Jul 3 Constantinople* .. •. N 7th 17th 27th of mo 'Dover .. July 10 Central America .. M2d & 17th of mon. Southampt. July 5 Channel Isles • • .. N Mon., Wed., & Fri. Southampt. Tn. Th. S a Chili 31 17th of the month Southampt. July 20 France .. 31 & N Twice daily .. .. Dover • • Twicodaily Greece* N 7th 17th 27th of mo Dover .. July 10 Hamburgh N Tuesday & Friday London .. Tues. Sat. Rolland .. •• M Wednes. & Satur. London .. Mos.Thcr Honduras . N 17th of the month Southampt. July 20 Ireland .. M& N Twice daily Holyhead .. T wicedaily India (via Southamp.) M 20th of the month,Southampt. July 43 India (via M arseilles) N 7 thit 24th efmonth Dover • . July 16 Mediterranean (via Southampton) .. M2oth of the month Southampt. July 93 Mediterranean (via Marseilles) .. N 7th& 24th ofmonth Dover .. July 16 Mexico .. M2d of the mouth.. Southampt. July b Madeira • • . • .. M 9th of the month Southampt. July 12 r 7th, 17th,19th,27th Malta* 1 Dover July 10 / & 30th of month Naples* Nth 15th 25th ofmo , Dover .. July 12 Papal States* M ath 15th 25th elmo;Dover .. July 12 Peninsular.. •• .. 3117th 17th 27thof molSouthampt. July 6 Peru M 17th of the month Southamot. July 90 Tuscany* .. N sth 15th 25th of mo Dover • • July 12 West Indies .. 17th of the month Southampt. July 90 West Indies (except Havanna & Nassau) M 2d of the month .. Southampt. July 5 Southiunpt. July 5 Led (*) are conveyed by * The mails to those countries thus marl French packet vl 4 Marseilles. CALIFOZNIA.—MaiIs to and from Califonii. are now despatched and due by every Ameri, La, via the United States lean packet. DEATH Isom A Su STROKE.-012 Saturday last a woman named Bucket was working in the hayfield at Bourton, about three miles from B.inbury ; she had, in con sequence of the intense heat, been imprudently working without her bonnet, and died 4uddenly from a coup de solid. Banbury Guardian. lawful for he hereby regal give such pe sengerF, ors direct such out of the to his chant; this kingdou part, and sh: said, he shal provided by of his late 11 Jesuits and Member add for nearly h out with suc vide," and o sentence rea As we u motion, Lord the time of i tion of the I —(Cries of derstand thi went of the (Sir F. The ciently argu posed to let cers of the I therefore, n common inf General to Sir F. 'I sufficiently House in al The Hou For Aga Upon thi again divid For Aga The Bill Upon th flan of cert in the Uni Mr. H. ( went. 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