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, A • *,'",, 4 ) It f l ir 141 4xj 4 , kfj ..te% SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock. GOODWOOD RACES. (THIS DAY.) (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH•) (Continued from cur Third Edition). Sweepstakes of 300 soya. each. Nutshell... ... ••• "• William the Conqueror ••• ••• Won by a length. The Gratwicke Stakes. Hernandez Barcelona Phlegra .•- Won in a canter. The Craven Stakes have been given to Runneymede. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OF LORDS. - - - - - The LORD CHANCELLOR took his scat upon the w OO , P sack shortly after Five o'clock. -COPYHOLD ENCLOSURE AND TITHE COll MISSION BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. PE TITIONS. The Earl of HARROWBY presented a petition from some pariah against beer-houses, and several in favour of the Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Bill. Lord LYTTELTON presented a petition from Wor cester in favour of the preservation of the Crystal Palace, and its conversion into a winter garden. The Earl of ENNISKILLEN presented several peti tions from different Wesleyan congregations in Ireland in favour of the Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Bill. Lord 71EI.ONTEAGLE presented a petition from Clare against the Papal Aggression Bill; also several petitions in favour of the preservation of the Crystal Palace. The Earl of MOUNTCASIIELL presented several petitions a gainst Papal aggression. POOR RELIEF ACT CONTINUANCE BILL. On the motion of the Earl of CARLISLE this Bill was read a second time. PRIVATE BILLS. On the motion of Lord REDESDALE several Bills were forwarded a stage. CIVIL BILLS (IRELAND) BILL. Oa the motion of the Letarvis of CLANRICARDE this Bill was read a third time and passed. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the third read ing of this Bill. Tile Earl of ABERDEEN, although he had on a former occasion occupied a considerable portion .ef their Lordships' time, yet could not permit this the 1 ast op portunity he should have to pass without again en tering his pro." • t against this ill , omened Bill. He was almost a l on e in his opposition to this measure, and therefore at least he was entitled to the credit of acting from conscientious motives in thus placing himself in opposi tion to the great majority of their Lordships. Yet, alt hough this Bill had been carried by large majorities in both Houses, he had not heard of any single individual! who expressed himself as entirely satisfied with this Bill. All that the supporters seemed to be agreed on was that " something must be done;" and nothing could be more dangerous than to legislate under the pressure of pas sion, which was always the case with those who said " something must be done." The arguments of the Noble Baron (Monteagle), who the other night moved the omission of Irclana from the Bill, were conducive against any legislation on the subject. (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly after Twelve o'clock in the New House. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords amendments to the Thames Haven Dock and Railway Bill wero read and agreed to. The Dorward s Eatate Bill was considered and agreed to. The Duke of Bedford's Estate Bill was read a sec and time. PETITIONS. Mr. OSBORNE presented petitions from Kensingi on, Knightsbridge, and the neighbourhood, praying that the Crystal Palace might be retained; also a petition from St. Luke's in favour of coroners being paid by salary instead of by fees. Mr. R. PALMER presented a petition from Maielen head, Berkshire, in favour of the retention of the Cry stal Palace. Sir B. HALL presented a petition from Marylet one complaining of the inefficiency of the Board of Sew° rs. Mr. GEORGE DUNCAN presented a petition fi •om the fish-curers in the district of Fraznburgh. !filo petitioners state that great benefit, in a national poin t of view, has been derived from the creation of the Fishery Board in Scotland, and the satisfactory resnits have only been equalled by the very great increase of production, the capital invested, and the great number of inhabitants to whom the fisheries gave employment ; and they pray that this House will continuo the ;said Board of Fisheries for Scotland. THE CASE OF ANN HICKS. Mr. B. OSBORNE asked the First Commissioner of Woods and Forests, whether Ann hicks held a hems i in Hyde-park by the gift of George IL, or by what tent ire she occupied the house from which she had been evicted. Lord SEYMOUR said in answer to the first question of the Hon. Member—whether Ann Hicks held a house in Hyde-park by the gift of George IL—ho had to state that she did not hold any house in the park by the gift of George 11., or by the gift of any other Royal person age.—(Hear, hear.) The first time he ever heard of her claiming to be entitled to a house in Hyde park was about two weeks ago, when he save an account of her case in the newspapers. The way in which she had obtained possession of the house, was as follows :—ln 1843 Mrs. Hicks, like many other per sons, had a little stall in the park, where she sold apples and ginger-beer. Before this she had occupied or kept an old conduit in the park, but this was pulled down, and in 1843 she wrote to the Commissioners of Woods and Forests, and requested to have a place in which she might lock up her ginger-beer bottles.—(A laugh.) After some correspondence the Commissioners toldt her she might have a wooden stand, such as those at the cow-stands in St. James's-park. Shortly after wards she wrote again, and said she was -very much obliged to them for the wooden stand, but would like very much to have one made of brick, as the other was liable to be broken open. On this subject she renewed her applications, but in none of them did she once allude to any royal gift, but always dwelt upon having fifteen children.—(A laugh.) After the lapse of some time the Commissioners allowed her to make' a brick, instead of a wooden stand.—(Elear, hear, from Colonel Sibteorp.) See then again wrote, stating that her stand was not quite large enough, and that it must be increased in aizl, she bad so many ginger-beer bottles.—(Loud laughter.) After receiving several petitions on the su bject, tne Commissioners gave way so far, that they allo we d her to have a stand five feet high, but no higher. In the following year she wrote again, saying that she was very much obliged to them for her little hut, which was a great conve nience to her— (A laugh) —that she did not wish to make a residence of the hut, but that if they would allow her a little fire-place, it would be of great use to her, and allow her to make a cup of tea.—(A laugh.) The Commissioners told her that they would not on any account allow a fire place or a chimney of any kind to be erected, and that they had no objection to the roof being repaired. However, when he (Lord Seymour) came into office, in 1850, the hut had not only had a new roof and a chimney, but had got a little garden around it.—(Hear, hear, and lautehter.) His attention was first directed to the subject in con quence of the frequent collisions which took place between Mrs. Hicks and the park authorities, in con sequence of the former advancing the hurdles in front o f t he dwelling ; and he was inf orme d th a t w h en they were placed back by the park authorities Cure was always great noise, abuse, and clamour. Thinking:, however, that an un f avoura bl e ac count m i g ht have been given of her conduct by the officers, he requested a gentleman of great experience in tho park, but unconnected with the office of Wood!' and Forests, to inquire into the matter, and he gave an account equally unfavourable to Mrs. flicks. He then considered that it was time some proceedings should be tak en , b ecause the House must be perfectly aware that any such en croachments on the park were entirel y ille g al ; and he Was told, besides, that if the encroachments were sanotioe.ed for a few y ears there would be greater difficulty in removing her.—(Hear, hear.) Before adopting any proceedings he wro te to the Du ke of Wellington as ranger of the park, and the nuke. after paying that degree of attention to his com munication which he did to every s ubject of importance, intimated that he entirely concur red in the I'm' that the e rect i on ought to be removed from the was then served with • " with a notice. soon as possible. She told her that if she allo would leave ' p ark he would take care that some e( - Lord Seymour) plied that it bas was made to her, but she re she would not remove. w her own ground, and that were Finding, however, that the au thoritiesdetermined to , pull down the hut, she ultimately removed. As she said she owed some thing for the repair of the to her to discharge the debt, some money was given the next he allo we d her ss. a week for house-rent du r i ng neepitxtair year. Th e person to w hom the money was owin g for repairing the roef called u pon him (Lord Seymour), and elated that given her th i at Mrs. Hicks bad spent the sum he bad T h ieirint l ing bills and placarding them a bout the park. b u ildings erected in the park were the model oa l y od gi ot hger classes, n ear the cavalry bar racks, for the labourin g which the Commissioners had allowed to be built by Prince Albert, on condition that his Royal Highness undertook to remote them at the end of a cer tain period.—(Heer.) In reply to Lord DUDLEY STUART, Lord SEYMOUR said that no cottage was erected on the spot occupied by Mrs. Hicks previous to 1842. Mr. WAKLEY wished to know whether she would . el have been ejected if the Cryst Palace had not been raised? —(Hear, from Col. Sibtnorpe. ) Lord SEYMOUR said her ejection had nothing to do with the Crystal Palace. VENTILATION OF THE NEW HOUSE. Mr. OSBORNE asked whether it was not the case that instructions had bean issued to Dr. Reid, which prevented him from ventilating the new House of Com mons in the manner ho desired? Perhaps the Bon. Member;(Mr.Greene) would also state whetherit was in tended to decorate the House with additional heraldic devices? Mr. GREENE replied that some degree of change was necessary in the ventilation of the building in conse quence of alterations in the architect's design, but no special instructions had been issued, which at all affected the plan of Dr. Reid. As to the other question, it was intended (as we understood the Hon. Member) to place the arms of the different Speakers beneath the gallery above the chair, and the arms of the different corpora tions and towns in the compartments under the Members' galleries. Mr. B. OSBORNE wished to know if the sittings of the House during the remainder of the session were to be held in this House, as Members were put to great inconvenience in consequence of having to go so far to the library when they desired to consult any books or journals. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was desirable that the remaining sittings should be held in this House, as they would then have an opportunity of ascertaining what additional alterations would be re quired in the new House. Mr. WAKLEY observed that the atmosphere of the House last night was injurious to health.—(Hear.) Unless some alteration were made they could not sit there without actually endangering their lives. He understood no provision had been made for the ventila tion of the House. Some Members must have suffered from the bad state of the atmosphere.—(Hear.) He therefore hoped they would resume their sittiugs in the old House until some arrangements wero made for the ventilation. While on this subject ho would suggest that the green baize which shut out the ladies' gallery from the House should be removed, and that ladies should be treated like other strangers, and not, like wild animals, be shut up in a eage.—(Laughter.) MEDICA L CHARITIES (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. METROPOLITAN SEWERS BILL. Oa the m otion for going into Committee on this Bill. WAKLEY rose to move a; an amendment that the Bill be committed this day six months. The me tropolis had much cause to complain that a large and comprehensive measure upon this subject had not been brought in by the Government. This Bill proposed to continue for twelve months an expensive and useless board, whose proceedings had hitherto been exceedingly mischievous. The board was perfectly irresponsible, and paid no attention whatever to public opinion. The income of the Commission last year was 90,0001., of which 77,0001. was derived from rates, and 13,000/. from contributions, while the expenditure amounted to no less than 1,259,000/., and of which 23,463/. was for the cost of management. Rather than this board should continue the metropolis would be content to have only one responsible managing commissioner, and he there fore hoped the House would not proceed further with this Bill. WILLIAMS seconded the amendment. The whole of the inhabitants of the metropolis looked upon this board as a job, and Government had no right to force it upon them for even; a day longer. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said this Bill was only intended to be of a temporary cha racter, as the whole subject of the water supply and the sewerage of the metropolis was now under the conside ration of a Committee, and the result of that inquiry , was likely to lead to the production of a large and com prehensive measure on the subject. Under those circum stances, nothing would be more inexpedient than to throw out this Bill, which was simply brought forward to give the House and the Government ample time for devising some new system of managing the sewers of the metropolis. Mr. B. OSBORNE said the argument of the Right Hon. Gentleman would be very good, if it were in tended to continue the present Act. The fact, however, was that the Bill did no such thing. It was a new Bill, to reduce the quorum of the board from six to two, :and to empower the Government to pay the head commis sioner a selery of 1,000/. a year. The present Com missioners had no time to attend to the business of the Commission, and he objected to the Bill continuing the Commission over fur another year, at an expanse of 1,0001. It would be much better to continue the old Act, and then begin in good earnest to reform the system next :spring. Lord DUDLEY STUART wished to obtain some information with regard to the Victoria sewer. He wanted to know what was the original estimate of the sewer; secondly, the contract price; and thirdly, the actual cost. He was decidedly opposed to this Bill, be cause it had been brought in at so late a period of the session. They were told that it was too late now to hope to pass any other Bill but this, and therefore they must pass it. The whole of the metropolis was crying shame upon the Government for their misconduct in re ference to these sewers, and yet they had the temerity to introduce a Bill to reduce the quorum of the Commis sioners to two, and enable them to pay some official 1,0001. a year. Viscount EBRINGTON said it was a gross misre presentation to say the present Commissioners had squandered the money of the ratepayers in executing use less public works. If the Commissioners bad not done everything that was desirable, at least they were not liable to the wholesale imputations which had been heaped upon them. Tho Noble Lord then proceeded to relate the history of the Commission, which he said was nomi nated by the Lord Chancellor. It was calculated that under the old system no less than 240,0001. of the public money was wasted owing to the de fects in the plans aad levels from which the sewers were constructed, and immediately that the existing Commission came into the charge they set to work in reforming and amending the plans until they succeeded in obtaining a comprehensive and accurate survey of the whole metropolis. The result was that a great saving was effected in the sewer expenditure, and the rates were reduced 7s. in the pound, at which they stood in 1847, to something under 4.. in the pound. W hen the Commissioners were first appointed they entered upon their duties by restoring order in the sewers' office, and propounding two great schemes for an arterial survey of the metropolis. The underground survey was complete, while the Ordnance survey only required four streets to be added to make it complete. The block plan was also in a state of great forwardness. While these preliminary plans were beicg prepared, great complaints were made against the Com missioners for not entering upon actual sewer works, but the Commissioners did nut allow any public clamour ►o drive them into the commencement of works upon insufficient data. Directly however their plans were matured] they entered upon the construction of works, and up to the 26th of July works had been executed to the extent of 200,000/., while work to the ex tent of 150,0001. were in the course of construction, thus making the total value of the works which the Commission had undertaken during the nineteen months in office amount to 350,0001. The benefit which the public derived from those works might easily be estimated when he told the House that the present Commissioners executed their works at about half the cost of the old Commissioners. He had been asked three questions about ;the Victoria :sewer by an Honourable Member who had preceded him, and in reply to those questions h© begged to state that the estimated cost of that sewer was 8,2724 the contract price was 7,7001., and the actual cost up to the present time was 12,3601. The probable cost at its completion would be 13,5061. Many of the works of the Commission remained in a state of abeyance, owing to a technical defect in the Act of Parliament, which prevented the Commissioners from raising money by way of loans. Government was applied to for assist ance in the difficulty. Government, however, declined to render them any assistance, and the Commissioners, therefore, had no alternative but to put up with public odium, and levy rates whenever works were required to avert disease or promote the welfare of the poor. As for the charge of corruption, which had been brought for ward by the Hon. Member for Lambeth, be would not condescend to refute it; he had often challenged Hon. Members, who had thrown out insinuations against the Commission to move for a Committee to inquire, r.nd they themselves knew best why they had not done so. He could not help complaining that the Commissioners had not received that support from her Majesty's Go vernment which at the commencement of their task had given them courage to undertake it. He acknowledged the deep interest which the heads of the Government took in the sanitary reform, but they had been too studious to conceal their real views on the subject of sanitary reform. _ _ . Sir B. HALL could not see what relation the statement of the Noble Lord had with the sub ject before the House. At any rate his speech had had one effect, and that was to damage the cause which be had risen to support. The Noble Lord had taken great credit to the Com missioners and himself for having reduced the per centege from 7s. to 4g., whereas, in truth, the rates had been actually increased from 3d. to 4d. in the pound. The chief occupation of the Commissioners had been, in fact, more to write letters to different parts of the country instead of occupying themselves with practical affairs. He thought, however, after the sins of this Commission they had great reason to complain that the Bill to renew its powers had been brought in at so late a period of the year. However, in this case, he thought the best thing they could do would be to tie the hands of the Commission as much as they could, and not allow it to raise rates beyond a certain amount. He could only apply to the present Commissioners those epithets which he had applied to their predecessors, that they were " an inefficient and incompetent body," and the sooner they were annihilated the better for the inhabitants of the metropolis. Mr. HENLEY thought the Noble Lord opposite had been very unfortunate in the attacks which he bad made on his: predecessors, because, in fact, figures showed that in eighteen or nineteen months the rates of Westminster bad risen under the auspices of the Noble Lord and his fellows from aid. to 9d. in the pound. He did not think either that the Noble Lord had given any satisfactory account of the labours in which they had occupied their time. With regard to the Bill before the House, he thought it would have been much more satis factory if it bad been to continue the Commission simply for a year without any attempt to give pow era to it for rating beyond a certain limit. Lord JOHN RUSSELL was astonished at the objec tion made to the appointment of a Commissioner pro posed by the Bill, who should be salaried, and be in constant attendance to wind up the affairs of the Com mission. That, in his opinion, was the chief merit of the Bill. They were all agreed that it w as necessar y , in order to bring the affairs of the Commission to an issue, to renew it for a year, and be therefore could not see what objecti on th ere cou ld b e t o pass the Bill. After o _r a short c onversat i on M , . WABLEY replied, and the gallery was clear ed for a divisi on , b ut ne Bill,took place, and the House went Mr. WAKLEY into Committee on the eved the omission of clause.l, ap pointing M r . B ERNA L in the chair. WILLIAMSman xtr, yir ehair seconded th e motion. The Committee then divided, when there appeared For the clause Against it '2 1 ••• ••• ••• Majority —l4 then The clause was agreed to. On clause 2, giving a salary of 1,0001. to the Chairman, Sir B. HALL moved the rejection of the clause. The Committee divided, when there appeared— For the clause Against it ... ••• ••• •" 22 Majority ..• —l3 The clause was then agreed to. Clause 3 was agreed to. On clause 4, Mr. WAKLEY moved that the Chairman do report progress, in order to give time to the inhabitants of the metropolis to make themselves acquainted with the pro visions of the Bill. After a short conversation the Committee divided, when there appeared— For reporting progress ... ... 7 Against it ... ... 50 Majority ... ... —43 The motion was consequently lost, and the clause was then agreed to. On clause 5, Mr. HENLEY moved to insert, " Provided also that no rate or rates amounting to more than threepence in the pound shall be made by the said Commissioners." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the motion, on the ground that if it were carried the Commissioners would be unable to olear off their arrears of debt. After a short conversation, Lord JOHN RUSSELL agreed to the motion. The words were then inserted. Mr. HENLEY then proposed another amendment, the object of which was to deprive the Commissioners of all power to borrow money. The. CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the motion on the same ground as ho opposed the former proposition of the Hon. Member. After a short conversation the Committee divided, when there appeared— For the amenament 33 Against it Majority —ll The clause was then agreed to. The remaining clauses of the Bill were then agreed to, and the House adjourned at Half-past Four to Half past Six. The House resumed at Halt-past Six o'clock, and was (LEFT SITTING.) THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) DOWNING-STREET, JULY 29, 1851. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Henry Samuel Chapman, Esq., to be Colonial Secretary for the island of Van Dieman's Land. Her Majesty has also been pleased to appoint Thomas Falconer, Esq., to be Colonial Secretary for the terri tory of Western Australia. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, JULY 25. Corps of Royal Engineers—Lieutenant-Colonel Alex ander Brown to be Colonel, vice Vavasour, deceased; Captain Montgomery Williams to be Lieutenant-Colonel; Captain John Hawkshaw to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice Brown; Second Captain Andrew Beatty to be Captain, vice Hawkshaw; First Lieutenant Fairfax Charles Has sard to be Second Captain, vice Beatty; Second Lieute nant George Montagu Stopford to be First Lieutenant, vice Hassard, July 14. _ MEMORANDIIM.—The date of the commissions of the under-mentioned officers has been altered to the sth of July, 1851 ; viz.:—Colonel Blanshard, Lieutenant- Colonel Wolff, Captain Hamley, Second Captain Sim, First Lieutenant Fisher. THE SUN, LONDON, ADMIRALTY, JULY 24. Corps of Royal Marines—Second Lieutenant Charles Louis Atterbury Farmer to be First Lieutenant, vice Gerard Montagu, resigned; Second Lieutenant William Kelly to be First Lieutenant, vice W. 11. W. Branch, resigned. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Somersetshire. Ist Somerset Regiment of Militia—William Speke,j un., Esq., to be Captain, vice Baillie, resigned, July 23. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Dursetshire. _ _ Dorset Regiment of Militia—Morgan Devenisb, Gent, to be Lieutenant, July 21. WHITEHALL, JULY 26. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Thomas Miles the younger, of Leicester, in the county of Leicester„ Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court o Chancery. BANKRUPTS. Edward Herring, manufacturing chemist, Southwark, to surrender Aug. 7, at half-past one, and Sept. 11, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assignee, Birchin-lane; Wood, Alderegate. John Limbird, stationer, Strand, Aug. 8, at half-past twelve, and Sept. 11, at twelve, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall•etreet; Smith, BaEinghall-street. Richard Keeping, watchmaker, Ryde, Isle of Wight, Aug. 7, at two, and Sept. 11, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall street; Whittington, Dean-street, Finsbury-square. Edwin Gates, grocer, Aylesford, Kent, Aug. 6, at half past elven, and Sept. 6, at half-past one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stange°ld, official assignee; Wilton and Blackman, Raymond's-buildings, Gray's Inn-square. Walter Levy, maccaroai manufacturer, White's-row, Spital-fields, Aug. 4, at eleven, and Sept. 6, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansfeld, official assignee; Jenkinson, Svveeting, and Jenkinson, Lombard-street. Alfred Hinton, stationer, Portsmouth, Aug. 6 and Sept. 6, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Weir and Smith, Basinghall-street. Edward Davis, currier, Northampton, August 6, at half past one, and Sept. 6, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Heath, Artillery place Nest, Finsbury. Thomas Irlam and Vincent Wanostrocht (and not Wanostrocht Wanostrocht, as before advertised), brokers, Liverpool, August 7, and Sept. 5, at eleven, at the Dis trict Court, Liverpool. Bird, official assignee, Liverpool; Sharp, Field, and Jackson, London; Miller and Peel, Liver pool. Robert Heath, William Welch, and John Heath Barber, ironmongers, Tunstall, Staffordshire, Aug. 16, at ten, and Sept. 2, at one, at the Birmingham District Court. Valpy, official assignee, Birmingham; Stanier, Udall, and Knight, Newcastle-under-Lyne; Motteram, Knight, and Emmet, Birmingham. Thomas John King, innkeeper, Stourport, Worcester shire, Aug. 12, and Sept. 9, at twelve, at the Birming ham District Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Bir mingham; Watson, Stourport; Hodgson, Birmingham. David Phillips, linendraper, Cardiff, Aug. 13, and Sept. 10, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Acre mann, official assignee, Bristol; Bevan, Bristol. Betsy Daw, miller, Lumber mills, Tavistock, Aug. 7, at one, and Sept. 18, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court; Hernaman, official assignee, Exeter; Elworthy, Plymouth. John Searle, builder, Brixhara, Devonshire, August 12, and Sept. 17, at one, at the Exeter District Court. Hirtzal, official assignee, Exeter; Stogdon, Exeter. INSOLVENT DEBTORS. Robert Sparro.v Paxton, coachmaker , ~ Cannon-place, Whitechapel-road. Thomas Pearce, beer-seller, Belgrave•place, Pimlico. Thomas Merser, tailor, Thames Ditton. John Vevers, woollen agent, Snaresbrook, Essex. Edwin Andrade, butcher, Newington-place, Surrey. Ge)xge Newman, livery-stable keeper, Grove-road, St. John's Wood. James Martin, labourer, North Cheam, Surrey. Charles Jackson, bootmaker, Felix-street, Hackney-road Thomas Grant, dealer in furniture, Princes-street, Lei. cester-square. , _ Thomas L - unniss, greengrocer, Brunswick•street, Black , friars-road. John Wedge, furniture broker, Oldbury, Worcestershire. Benjamin Bailey, clothier, Golcar, Huddersfield. Nathaniel Morling, licensed victualler, Brighton. Samuel Norcliffe, publican, Wakefield, Yorkshire. Charles Steele, blacksmith, Worth, Sussex. Peter M'Cabe, lodging-house keeper, Liverpool. James Balmer, chemist, Liverpool. Samuel Godwin, pattern designer, Manchester. William Rotheroe, carpenter, Saint Edrin's, Pembroke. shire. Joshua Clegg, joiner, Birkby, Yorkshire. John Dickinson, beer-house keeper, Manchester. W. Hallam, labourer, New Linton, Nottinghamshire. Thomas Holman, shoemaker, Farnham Royal, Bucks. James Williams, cabinetmaker, Manchester. Emma Atkinson, linendraper, Silsden, Yorkshire. Charles Lawson, grocer, Utley, Yorkshire. John Stewart, auctioneer, Wake Held, Yorkshire. Robert Bishop, miller, Asthall, Oxfordshire. John Foster, worsted spinner, itanningham Yorkshire, Thomas Hall, licensed victualler, Friarage:Lancaster. Richard Lynch, boot and shoemaker, Manchester. George Robertsham, butcher, Hightown, near Leeds. MARKET IN TEL LIGEN CE. (From the London New Price Current, July 29.) SUGAR.—To-day importers of West India Sugar were again desirous to realize, and accepting prices rather under those of Friday occasioned a good demand to pre vail for both grocery and refining purposes; the pur chases are 693 hhds, &c., including at auction 190 hhds Barbadoes, which went off quietly, fine yellow at 393 to 403 6(1, good 37s 6d to 38s, mid 36s to 375, mid grainy yellow 47s 6d to 48s; 220 brls Antigua, good yellow 37s 6d to 38s 6d, low to mid 33s 6d to 365, brown 31s 6d to 324 good to ffne 32s 6d to 305 6d; 50 brls Grenada, low and mid yellow 33s to 355; 107 hhds 24 trcs Jamaica, good mid yellow 36s 6d to 375, mid 35s to 36a, low 34s to 34s 6d, good to fine brown 33s 6d to 345. REFINED.—To-day Refined Sugar was purcbarge with caution for home consumption, the supply is rather larger and 46s to 46s 6d is the value of brown lump. Crushed remains dull of sale and lower rates are taken. Afsunrrrus.—This afternoon the public sales of Mauritius Sugar went off heavily at rather lower rates. Of 7,798 bags offered not above 3,500 bags were sold, low to mid yellow at 33s 6d to 365, good mid to good 36s 6d to 37s 6d, fine 38s to 39s 6d, ord and mid brown 28s to 31s 6d, good to fine 32a to 335, good to fine grainy yellow 40s to 435, ord and mid 36s to 395. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon there was a quiet market for all sorts of Bengal Sugar, and of 1,400 bags at auction a small part only sold at about former rates, very fine grainy white went at 47s 6d to 481, mid and good white Benares 39s 6d to 40s 6d, low soft yellow 31s 6d, and mid brown ditto, 28s. Of Penang 615 bags were taken in at 38s to 398 for low and mid white. _ _ FOREIGN.— To-darthere ;;;;faiTexpo;tdemandfor Foreign Sugar, but h o ld ers were d es i rous to realize. There is no decrease of supply; a cargo of brown Per nambuco in bags sold at 17s per cwt. A mixed cargo of Bahia ;realized 18s 3d per cwt. .• TEA.—An improvement has taken place in the de mand for low and good common Congou, many parcels having been disposed of at 10-41 to 1044, and holders evince firmness ; there is also a less quantity on offer. In medium and rather strong blickish leaf rather more business has been transacted at lld to ls, but good to fine sorts continue to be operated in with reluctance, and are offering at from is Oid to is 7d. In Oolong transactions are upon a more extended scale at is to is 7d, but of this sorts there is an increasing supply. Tho good and fine qualties of Green met with little attention, and are offered rather under previous rates, but common and medium have been in good demand at former terms. Clean Canton Gunpowder, and sorts from is 4d to is 9d, as well as Young Hyson from ild to is 2d have been in most re quest. Scented and Pekoe Teas met with little atten tion, and prices have still a downward tendency. RICE.--To-day there was little business done privately in East India Rice, and in some cases rather lower rates were taken. Of American cleaned 70 cks at auction were taken in at 17s to 17s 6d. Of Sago 926 boxes only in part sold at 17s 6d to 18s 6d for *mid and good small pearl. 200 packages Arrowroot; Bermuda, Is; St. Vincents, 4d to 40, and Mauritius, lid to I,ld per lb. SPICES.—To-day Nutmegs were in good demand, and realized full rates. at public sale 19 pkgs sold; ord brown at 2s to 2s sd, mid 2i 7d. Of Mace , 7 cases went at 2s to 2s 2d for mid pale and lone lot low Is 9d. Of Cloves 2 cases sold at 2a Id for flenang ; 60 bags Bourbon 6fd to 61d. Ginger 453 bags African were only in part :Add at 25s to 259 6d ; bat 200 bris Jamaica all found buyers at 55s to 73s for low to mid. Of Cayenne Pepper 15 cases taken in 103 per for sound. CINNAMON.—On the part of merchants there was a desire generally to realise at the quarterly sales, and the demand being limited, prices declined 2d to 3d per lb for Ceylon of the first and second quality, and 3d to 5d for thirds, inferior and broken. Of the 1,856 bales 96 cases offered, about 1,500 brls sold ; first quality realised is Sd to 33 4d, damaged Is 4d to 2s 9d; second sort, sound is to 2s 4d, damaged 9d to Is 10d; third and fourth sort, sound 9d to is 10d, damaged 8d to is 6d, broken from 8d to 2s. The Tellicherry consisted of 126 bls 34 cs, and nearly all found buyers at 2d to 3d reduction; first sort, sound realized is 7d to is 10d; second ditto is 2d to is 4d, damaged and broken from 7d to is sd. The next sales will,take place on the 27th October. SPIRITS.—Esst India Rum has been in good demand since this day week, and the parcels sold werg L at is 3id to 1s 4d per gallon proof. In Lessard Island ope tions are upon a more extended scale at Is 5d to is 64 proof. A good demand prevails for Demerara, and full terms ate paid; the transactions are 300 puns at is 10d to 2s 2d for 28 to 40 per cent over proof. Home and export orders have increased for Jamaica, there is however no advance, and best sorts are most in request. The rates obtained for fine and superior 35 to 38 per cent over 2 p s r oBodf to o r e 3 6 3, 1 0 2 w d a t n o d 4 m s i 6 d d 3 , o go to ot mid 313ovetro 2s s oo 3 d d 3 t 2 0 2 t 7 3 d 5 . over For Brandy the market Is inactive, and holders are desirous to sell, Cognac best brands of the vintage of 1850 at 4s 4d to 43 63, 1849 ditto 4s 6d to 4s 83, 1848 ditto 4s ild to 55 Id, older 5s 4d to 7s, low to mid 21 6d to 35 6J, and I,a sbe a e nnd operated Bordeauxin2s with 2 d to c 2 a u t s io 3 n d. at ß O r s it sd th to m9a s de9 d S , P a i Gin for export at 2 s 6 d. Geneva is Is 7d to is Bd, and fine Is 9d to 2s. COCUINEAL.—The drained has much improved, and there is an advance of Id to 2d per lb. At auction 250 bgs sere disposed of; and Honduras Silvers realized from 33 to 3s 9d for low to fine. For auction 400 bgs are declared. INDIGO.—The market has an improving appearance for East India, and since the termination of quarterly sales shippers and home dealers have been purchasers to a fair extent at full rates. For Spanish there is an proving demand, and rates are firm; Corres at from Is 6d to 49; Sobres 33 6d to 4s Bd, and Flores 4s to 5s per lb. On Friday 106 serons Guatimala will be offered at auction. SALTPETRE.—Prices for British Refined remained at remain at 29s to 29s 6d, there are, however, now few buyers. For Rough, prices continue to decline, and rule for low to mid Calcutta at 253 to 265, good to fine 26 to 28s 6d. Of 1,230 bags at auction a small portion only sold at 25s 6d to 27s 63 for retraction 74 to 5 per cent. Nitrate of Soda is 13s 9d to 14s per cwt. TALLOW.—The demand is on the increase for Russian on the spot, and holders manifest more firmness. Ope rations have been to a fair extent during the last few lays, and the rates paid are 37s 9d to 38s for fine yel ow Candle. A good business has been transacted for de livery; the prices paid being 32s to 39s 6d for the lest 3 months of the year. Home melted met with increased attention, and 37s paid net cash; on the part of mehers there is also less desire to sell. At auction 418 casks Australian were sold; Sheep 36s to 37s 9d; Bref 35s to 375; and 332 pkgs South American 35s 6d to 37s 6d per cwt. For auction 900 casks, 86c., are declared. OlLS.—Orders continue to increase for Seal Oil, and prices are still on the advance; many purchases have been made, and the latest rates paid for paie are 34/ to 34/ 10s, for other sorts 32/ to 331 lOs per tun. Cod is not much in request, and can be obtained at 36/ to 37/ Southern is in small supply, and wanted at 31/ to 33/ per tun for low to fine. Sperm continues to attract little notice, and rates to decline ; fair British selling at 801 to 83/. Headmatter has been operated in with caution at 901 to 93/ per tun. Cocoa Nut is in good request, and stock keeps on the decrease; Cochin has realised 32s 6d to 34', and Ceylon 315 6d to 33s per cwt. Linseed Oil con tinues to be operated in with caution for exportation; there is, however, a fair home trade demand at 32s 63, and supply is moderate. For delivery several contracts have been entered into at 31s 63 to 31s 9d. Rape Seed Oil continues in brisk demand, pale at 34s 6d to 353, brown 33s to 33s 63 ; Refined Foreign 35s 6d to 365. Palm is in better request; but tine is to be obtained at 27a to 27s 6d. There is a good business doing in Olive, and rates are firm at 38/ to 39/ per tun for Gallipoli, and other sorts 361 10s to 371 10s. Of Mustard Seed Oil 20 cases at auction realized 293 3d per cwt. COURSE OF EXCHI Amsteroam .. •• • • 11 16% Ditto, three months .. 11 18 itotterdam .• ••.. •• 11 18h 3 Antwerp • • ............ 25 25 Brussels • • 25 25 Haniburgh .... • • M.B. 13 8 Paris, 3 days'inght .... 25 5 Ditto, 3 months .. .. 25 25 Marseilles ••• • • • • • 25 25 80urdeaux......... . Vrankforton Maine.... 119 U Berlin • • • • .. Vienna, effee. flo.• •• •• 11 42 Trieste, ditto.... •• • • 11 44 Petersburgh,Bll. Ebbe.. 37 m Madrid •• •• 60 Cadiz • • ............ 60% Barcelona • • • • • • • • • • • • GE.-(1HIS DAY.) Gibraltar.... •• •• •• •... Leghorn •• •• •• •• •• •• ISO 45 Genoa 25 45 Milan o• •• •• •• •• .. Venice.— Naples 404 Palermo, perm .... 124 Messina •• •• •• •• •• •• •• 124 1 4 Lisbon.... .. .......... 53 4 0p0rt0.... Rio Janeiro Buenos Ayres New York,6odays'sight Philadelphia PRICES 01 BULLION, PEI OZ. Foreign Geld inbars.. XII 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin .. 0 0 0 Spanish Doubloons .. 0 0 0 New Dollars 0 4 11U Silver in bars •••••• •• 0 5 0% ROYAL ORTHOP2EDIC HOSPITAL.—This morning (Tuesday) the grand day fancy sale and night fete com menced in the beautiful gardens of Vauxhall, in aid of the building fund of the above most excellent charity. Many interesting articles of fancy needlework, &c., were displayed, and the stalls were presided over by many distinguished ladies. Although a great number took tickets with the intention of confining their visit to the show of the bazaar, there is no doubt that the attractions of the night fete will prove in reality the mainspring of assistance to the funds of the hospital. The performance at the Gardens both to-night and to.morrow includes an extended and most un usual list of attractions, and we make no doabt that the wonder-seeking public will feel high gratification in being enabled to mingle a work of charity and benevolence with their pleasure and enjoyment. MARYLRDONE DISTRICT SURVEYORSHIP. The district has been divided into two, and new surveyors ap pointed. Mr. White, son of the late surveyor, was elected, without opposition, to the northern division; and Mr. Jen nings by 64 votes, to the southern. Mr. Cantwell had 33 votes, and Mr. Little 25. The other candidates were Mr. Bales, Mr. Christian, and Mr. Roberts. Mr. Mozeley was nominated as a candidate, but withdrew his name from the list. MoLASSlis.—Operations are yet upon a small scale, i lion was, that the corporaion had a charter, and that and rates are on tae decline, ruling for low to flue Weat their Lordships ought not to meddle with the vested India at 13s to 153 6d, Porto Rico 13s 6d to 14s, Bengali interests which they erjoyed under it. Now the corpo and Mauritius lis6d to 12s per cwt. Honey is cheaper, ration had stated that they had no interest in Smithfield and low to fine West India can be obtained 30s to 50s market, and that they had not claimed compensation in per cwt. the House of Commons on that account. When he re- Cocoa.—To-day at public sale 200 bags Para have minded their Lordships That the Bill had been passed by been taken in at 28s per cwt. a large majority in the House of Commons, and that it COFFEE.—This afternoon Native Ceylon Coffee met was the universal opinion in both Houses that Smithfield with a good demand, both for home consumption and market, es now conducted, was a public nuisance, he exportation, and full rates were obtained. At public thought that they ought not to pt...ss the Bill in its pre sale 1,433 bags were nearly all disposed of at 37s to sent state—which would insure its rejection in the House 38s for good and real good ordinary, and at of Commons during the present session—but:that they 32s to 375 for damaged. Plantation continues to be should adopt his amendment, and restore the Bill to wanted, and the public sales of 180 casks went briskly at the condition in which it was when it first reached fully previous quotasior* middling to good realised their Lordships. 51s 6d to 58s 6d, low middling 493 to 51s, fine to fine fine The Earl of POWIS observed that these clauses had ordinary 43s to 48s 6d, triage and inferior 40s to 42s per been adopted by the Committee after due deliberation. cwt. Some parcels of Foreign Coffee were sold privately We considered whether the demand for compensation at full former terms. On Friday 5,000 bgs Costa Riga was just, and, upon mature consideration, we thought will be offered at auction. that the corporation had a claim to it. The judges had been called in three times upon the point, and in conse quence of the opinion which they gave the compensa tion clauses were inserted in the Bill. If the reports of your Committees are to be set aside in this manner, of what value are they? It would be a mere mockery to sit in Committee hereafter. With respect to the privi leges of the House of Commons, of which these clauses were said to be an infringement, there was plenty of time, if the House of Commons would not waive the ob jection, to bring in another Bill this session and remove the nuisance of this market. If you take away markets in this way, without compensation either to in dividuals or corporate bodies interested in them, you will do much to shake the security of all private pro perty. The Bishop of OSSORY (we were told) also defended the report of the Select Committee. The market yielded 5,0001. a year to the corporation. He therefore could not understand how it could be said that the cor poration had no interest in it. He had said in the Com mittee that if compensation were not given he should certainly feel himself bound to vote against the Bill. The present would be the only instance in which corpo ration property was ever taken without compensation. It had been said that Smithfield-market was a nuisance; but their Lordships seemed to be unaware how much had been and could be said in its favour. The Earl of LONSDALE observed, that ever since he had been in Parliament he had entertained but one impression as to the nuisance of Smithfield-market. He thought that the corporation of London ought to suffer the penalty which it deserved for not having claimed compensation, if it had any claim to it, in the House of Commons. This market had been voted a nuisance by both Houses of Parliament, and, instead of giving the corporation any compensation for its removal, he would rather fine them 5,0001. a month until they should re move it.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH observed that when he first came into their Lordships' House he had taken the part of the corporation of London on this matter. He recollected well that as he was leaving the House on that occasion the late Earl of Liverpool stopped him and said, " Let me, as an old Member, give you, who are a young one, a little piece of advice. Never have any thing to do with the corporation of the city of 'London. Its members are the greatest jobbers I have ever known in the whole course of my political life."—(Cheers and laughter.) The recollection of that anecdote would pre vent him from voting on either one side or the other on this occasion. Viscount SIDNEY stated that, as a member of the Committee, he had been of opinion that no case for com pensation had been made out by the corporation. He should therefore give his vote in favour of the amend ment of the Noble Earl opposite (Granville). The Marquis of SALISBURY considered that Par liament ceuld not fairly or sately abrogate the charter under which the city of London bad for so many centu ries enjoyed the advantages resulting from this market, without g iving adequate compensation. The Earl of HARROWBY supported the recommen dation of the Committee. Lord BEAUMONT said, that when the Committee declared the preamble of the Bill to be proved, the charter was ipso facto abrogated. As to compensation, the erased clauses of the Commons provided the amplest compensation that the city could lay fair claim to. Do not let it be forgotten that the charter was granted for the public good, and not fur the private benefit of the corporation purse. Lord COLCHESTER considered that it would be a dangerous precedent in a constitutional point of view to withhold adequate compensation from any individuil or corporation deprived by an Act of Parliament of char tered rights. Lord REDESDALE supported the compensation pro posed by the L'irds' Committee. Lord ORAN WORTH said, that in point of fact and of law, the corporation of London was entitled to no compensation at all. It so happened that the charter, as it was called, under which the corporation claimed, was in reality an Act of Parliament of the reign of Edward 111. Had it been merely a Royal charter the corpora tion chartered would have been long since liable to have its charter abrogated upon scire facias, as having alto gether failed to carry out the purposes for which that charter was granted, and for having converted that which was designed for a public good into a public nui sance. All that the corporation could ask of Parliament was to be equitably placed in the same position that it was in before the passing of the Act, and this was am ply provided for by the clauses introduced by the Com mons, and now proposed to be restored. After a few words from Lord BATHURST, which were not heard in the gallery, Earl GRANVILLE replied, and their Lordships then divided, when there appeared— For the motion of Lord Granville ... 59 Against it ... ... 15 Majority ... ... —44 Sections 37, 38, and 39, were ordered to be restored and stand part of the Bill. The report was then received. THE LAND-TAX, The Marquis of SALISBURY moved for copies of any correspondence between the Commissioners of Land-tax and the Boards of Revenue on the subject of the land-tax from the year 1845 to the present time. Agreed to. MERCHANT SEAMEN'S FUND. Earl GRANVILLE moved that this Bill be read a second time. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said, that when he addressed their Lordships on this subject on a former occasion he was induced to hope the Government would reconsider the measure. He believed that, in conse quence of those observations, an alteration had been made in one of the clauses to which he had more parti cularly called their attention; but the Government could hardly be aware of the extent to which the revenue would be affected by the inconsiderate manner in which that clause had been framed. It would involve a loss for the first three years of 120,000/. Then by the Bill future pensions were to be granted on an average of. the last five years, to be determined by the Board of Trade. In his opinion it would be better, in framing Acts of Parliament, to ascertain distinctly what were a man's rights, and not to leave them, except in cases of extreme necessity, to any board or any man at his discretion to determine what they should be. No Bill touching on financial matters should be permitted to pass the House of Commons without the strictest inquiry as to its finan cial operation. Earl GRANVILLE believed it to be utterly imprac ticable to have introduced a Bill, previous to the difficul ties of working it being ascertained, which would not have required renewed legislation. It was true that Mr. Fielaison had shown it would have been cheaper to have continued the present system than to wind it up, but that continuance was impossible, because it implied not only an advance from the Treasury, but increased contributions by the seamen themselves, and that in crease they rejected. The object of the Government, when they found that the old system must be wound up, was that the seamen should be put as much as poi ' sible in the same situation as they would have been in bad they continued under the old system, either as re ceivers of pensions or contributors, or rather in a better situation. • The Bill was then read a second time. The Civil Bills (Ireland) Bill and the Charitable In stitutions Notices Bill went through Committee. The Leasehold Tenure of Land (Ireland) Act Amend ment Bill and the Farmers' Estate Society (Ireliind) Bill were read a second time, the latter Bill with a view of being amended. On the motion of the Earl of ROSSE, certain returns relating to arterial drainage under the Board of Works in Ireland were ordered. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. July 28. MR. ALDERMAN SALOMONS. (Continued from our Third Edition of yesterday.) Mr. ANSTEY was astonished at the course taken by the Attorney- General. If the petitioners had attempted to afford additional information they would instantly have been charged with a breach of privilege for al luding to proceedings in a former debate of that House. In his opinion, one well-considered speech of a learned counsel would afford greater information to the House on the subject than twenty speeches of Hon. Members. Upon the occasion when the House decided against two freeholders, and obliged them to give up their holdings to two Members of that House, even then the House heard the freeholders at the bar, and offered to hear them by counsel, but now they would violate both the form and the substance by refusing to hear the petitioners at the bar of justice. By-and-bye they, would have a ge neral election, and then an appeal would then be made not only to the constituencies of Greenwich and London, but to every large constituency in the country, and they might dQpend upon it, it would not be the two seats of Greenwich and London they would have to consider, but the case would be made one in which every consti tuency would feel itself affected.—(Hear.) The result would be that the House would find itself in that posi tion in which it would be brought into collision with the people of England and the courts of justice, and they would then be obliged to do that which they had always done in all such cases —namely, recede from their position and give way to the power of the law. It was to save them from this humiliation that the ad vocates of the petitioners supported the motion before the House. Sir F. THESIGER said the real question before the House had been departed from by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who last addressed it. That Hon. and Learned Gentleman did not apply himself to the argu ment of the Hon. and Learned Attorney-General, who urged that the whole question had been fully canvassed last year, and decided upon by the House. What was the use of hearing counsel at the bar? The whole ques tion could and had been fully argued in the House, but the only thing that could arise by hearing counsel at the bar would be to hear the case argued on one side. This was one reason against hearing the petitioners at tho bar, but there was another. The petitioners asked to be heard at the bar in defence of their right to elect their own representatives. No one objected to their doing so. Tho dnctora might elect whom they pleased. They might elect a minor or a clergyman, if they liked, hut that did not entitle a minor or a clergyman to take his seat in that House, the law being against their doing so. —(Hear.) He should therefore oppose the motion before the House. Sir JOHN TYRRELL—As one of the Hon. Mem bers far constituents protested against some of the views he had advanced, cud begged to remind him that although now loud in what ho alleged to be a question of religious liberty, he was silent us a mouse during the repeated and protracted discussion Pin the Papal question.—(" No, no," from Mr. Osborne.) The Hon. Gentleman was voting in direct opposition to the wishes of most of his constituents, but it was his (Sir John Tyrrell's) belief that he had not the most distant idea of again presenting himself to a Middlesex consti tuency.—(" Oh, oh !" and expressions of dissent from Mr. Osborne.) He took the liberty of saying that he consi dered the House had suffered itself to be drawn into a discussion totally irrelevant to the question raised by the petitions presented tor consideration. Mr. HOBHOUSE denied that the Hon. Member for Middlesex had ever been as the Hon. Baronet stated, a platform orator. The Hon. Baronet might cavil with the sentiments of the Hon. Member; but he had no right to express himself deceived with them, for they were precisely those which he entertained when he repre sented Wickham. His Hon. and Gallant Friend was determined again to seek the suffrages of the electors of Middlesex, and he believed he would be returned as their representative. He (Mr. Hobhouse) was quite prepared to give his adhesion to the motion of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman the Member for Youghal, as he felt anxious they should hear all the arguments that could be adduced on a question involving as it did the rights and privileges of the people of England. If the Hon. Member for Greenwich were disqualified from sitting in Parliament, why did not the Hon. and Learned Member for Abingdon, as he had so repeatedly threatened, move that a new writ be issued. It was much better that a new writ should be issued than that things should re main in their present state. Mr. VILLIERS said the Hon. Gentleman, who had a motion on the paper for a nc,w writ for Greenich, said he had no desire to deprive the electors of that borough of their rights. But the Hon. and Learned Gentleman might carry his motion, and if so, the choice of the electors would be set aside. He was anxious to hear the :case of the petition at the bar, because the li•gal gentlemen might give them information on the question under consideration. The majority in that House had decided against the right of the people of Greenwich, and they now came to the bar to ask that the whole question would be fairly heard. Could anything be fairer ? The question was not fully and fairly discussed last year, for the House were told that a Bill was about to be brought in to adroit the Jews into Parliament. That Bill had been introduced, and Mr. Alderman Salomons had shown great respect for the •House, by not coming down to it until the question had been settled. (Hear, hoar.) The House of Lords had rejected the Bill, on the ground that they woeld not admit Jews into Parlia ment. There was, then, no likelihood of their altering their decision. Sir R. H. INGLIS rose to order, and observed that the Hon. Gentleman had referred to the House of Lords, which waq a violation of order. Mr. VILLIERS said he would keep in order by con fining his allusions to another place."—(A laugh.) He had only to add that the arguments used in another place were such as left little hope of their ever consent ing to admit Jews into Parliament.—(Hear, hear.) So it was desirable that they should consider whether they could not admit Jews into that House, they doing all tbat the law called upon them to do.—(Hear, hear.) That was what they were called upon by the petitioners to do. He would support the prayer of the petition. Mr. NE WDEGATE denied that the electors of Green wich were so deeply anxious on this subject as Hon. Members had suggested, because from 1,500 to 2,000 electors of Greenwich refused to vote, for they had no confidence in the contest, owing to the previous relation s which existed between Mr. Alderman Wire and the Jewish body. It was well understood that, at the elec tion for Greenwich, treating was notorious, and even Alderman Salomons acted in a most extraordinary man ner by drinking beer from a pot when addressing the electors from the hustings.—(A laugh.) He saw no reason that the electors of Greenwich should be placed in a better position than the electors of London. He should, therefore, vote against the motion. Sir J. HANMER said that when Mr. Salomons was elected alderman, he could not take the necessary oaths. To meet the difficulty Lord Lyndhurst brought a Bill into Parliament, and this passed. The consequence was that Alderman Salomons took the necessary oaths. The same course was now proposed by the Noble Lord at the head of the Government, and that was the course he should support. Sir ROBERT INGLIS said it was the law, and not the House of Commons, that interfered to prevent the Gentleman returned for Greenwich from taking his seat in that House. He contended that on ineligibility hung the whole question, and as Alderman Salomons could not comply with the conditions of the law, he could not sit. Mr. AGLIONBY did not consider that the Hon. Member for North Warwickshire (Mr. Newdegate) should raise the objections that he did against the right of Mr. Salomons with respect to his seat in that Hume; and he should say, in addition to that, that the opposi tion offered was most unfair and unjust.—(Hear.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL contended that the loeus standi totally depended on the principle of taking the oath, and he was astonished that auy Member who knew the usage of the House should offer any objection. Alderman SIDNEY was fully assured that the Hon. Member for Greenwich had a right to exercise his pri vilege as a Member, to take his seat and vote, and he would go further and say, the Baran Rothschild. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion ... ... 75 Against it ... ... 135 Majority... .. ... —6O ADMISSION OF BARON ROTHSCHILD. Mr. RAIKES CURRIE said, on Friday night he presented a petition, agreed to at a large meeting of the electors of the city of London, held on Friday last, of which he was chairman, praying that the oath of abjure , tion might be swept from the statute-book, and that they might be permitted to be heard by their counsel at the bar of that House, in support of Baron Rothschild's claim to take his seat as their representative. After, however, the decision the House had just come to in the case of the petition of the electors of Greenwich, and as he must confess that he did not agree with the prayer of the petition, that the oath of abjuration should be swept from the statute-book, he did not think it re quisite to persevere in asking the House to come to a decision upon it, and he would therefore with draw his motion, that the House should take the petition into its consideration. At the same time he would press upon the Government the necessity of doing something in the matter. The Noble Lord at the head of the Government, at the close of last session, got the House to pass a declaratory resolution on this subject, accompanied with a recommendation that the subject should be considered early in this session. That was an intimation that the Noble Lard was pre pared to legislate on the subject, and stake the existence of his Government upon it. He would, therefore, press on the Noble Lord the necessity of bringing forward that question now, or, at all events, in the very commence ment of next session of Parliament.—(Hear.) Mr. ANSTEY rose to discharge a duty, which he considered the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down had neglected, and to move that the petition be taken into consideration of the House, in terms of the notice on the paper, and that the House hear counsel at the bar, in terms of the prayer of it. The petition was dflerent from that of the electors of Greenwich, as it prayed that the House should hear counsel at the bar, provided they refused to rescind a resolution passed by the House last year, preventing Baron Rothschild from taking his seat. Mr. Alderman Salomons was differently placed, he had already taken his seat in that House, and he could not now be heard, except by himself, in his proper place; but Baron Rothschild appeared in a different form, and those who returned him urged the case on different grounds. He had not yet taken his seat.—(Hear.) He was waiting for the decision of that House upon his case, and he craved, and he (Mr. Anstey) could state, was now desirous, that he should be heard at the Bar by his counsel. It was his (Mr. Anstey's) intention to press this motion to a division. He had pledged himself to the eleotors of the city of London that he would leave nothing untried whieh could by any means forward their case, and he would not, therefore, be prevented by the solicitations of less timid friends of the cause, from fol lowing out that course. The Noble Lord at the head of the Government, in his speech on the previous motion, said that this was similar to a person who refused to take the oath of allegiance, but hero such was not the case, for they had decided last year that the seat for the city of London was full, and that they could not issue a new writ. Baron Rothschild did not refuse to take the oath of allegiance. He took that oath, and he took the oath of abjuration in the form binding on his conscience, and he would, therefore, move that the House hear counsel in behalf of the electors of the city of London in support of the petition presented to this House on Friday last. Mr. AGLIONBY said he was present at the meeting at which this petition was agreed to, and a more or derly and unanimous meeting he never saw. He thought the electors of the pity of London had a right to be hoard, and although he did not agree with the state ment of the petition, that the oath of abjuration ought to be swept from the statute book, he trusted that the House would not think it disrespectful to it, for the elec tors of the city of London to ask it to rescind its decision of last year, and bear counsel in favour of the petition. Mr. RAIKES CURRIE agreed that the meeting al luded to was most numerously and respecably attended. when The business was carried on in the most regular man ner , although he admitted, that after two resolutions h a d b ee n passed, fully expressing the feelings of of meeting, and agreed to unanimously, a petition was about to be proposed upon them, his Honourable Friend the Member for Youghall (Mr. Anstey) made his appearance with a counter petition, which no doubt would have given rise to great discussion. Just, however, at that juncture, Minerva came to their aid, in the shape of his Hon. Friend the Member for Cockermouth (Mr. Aglionby), who knowing that the Hon. Member for Youghall car ried a gun of no inconsiderable range, and of no incon siderable bore—(Laughter)—instead of showing fight, the two made up the matter, and a compromise took place, the result of which was, that the petition was al tered from the terms of the resolution which preceded it to the form in which it had been submitted to the House. —(Hear.) He must say that he did not think the peti tion a proper and fair echo of the resolutionseand that it would be useless, after the fate of the petition of the Greenwich electors, to ask the House to divide upon it. Mr. NE WDEGATE said from what he had heard, it appeared to him that the one-halt of the meeting of the electors of the city of London held upon the subject did not know what the other was about.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) But even though they did, the citi zens of London were but a small body of the constituency, and should the question come before the country at a general election, they would see a far different expres sion of feeling upon it. Mr. BERNAL OSBORNE said while the Honourable Member for Northampton (Mr. R. Currie) might make a very good chairman of a meeting, he did not think he had on this occasion done his duty as a representative of the p eo ple.—(Cheers.) fled it not been for his Hon. and Learned Friend the Member for Youghal, he took leave to say that this question would not have stood in the position it at present occupied, and he tendered his thanks to that Honourable and Learned Gentleman for the bold, manly, and spirited stand he had taken. He (Mr. Osborne) was present at the City meeting, and he told the House that the opinion of the city of Lou dou was invariably carried out by the country. He did not imagine the question of conceding to the Jews that to which they were entitled would be carried during the present session; but this he would say that unless the Noble Lord at the head of the Government took up the matter in sincerity, a re form of the House of Lords would be called for. It was not his (Mr. Osborne's) wish that that question should be agitated, but if it were, they would raise a devil that might not be so easily laid. He hoped the Noble Lord would take that circumstance into consideration, and bring for ward a measure early next session, fur the abo lition of all tests and Parliamentary qualification. The question should not be delayed session after session, and the farce gone through session after session of bringing forward resolutions of promises to pay whi c h were never performed.—(Hear.) Mr. ANSITY briefly replied, when the House di vided— 41 ... . . ... ... 77 -36 For Mr. Anstey's motion Against it ... Majority against ... The motion was consequently lost. CASE OF MR. SALOMONS. The order of the day was read for the resumption of the adjourned debate on the following resolution pro posed by Lord John Russell on Tuesday latit:--"Tb/!t David Salomons, Esq., is not entitled to vote in thi s House, or to sit i n t hi s H ouse, during any debate un til he shall take the oath of abjuration in the form aP' pointed by law." • Mr. ANSTEY reminded the House that to this reso lution be bad proposed to add by way of amendment the words, "And that this House, having regard for the religious scruples of the Hon. Member for Greenwich, will use its undisputed privilege on his behalf by forth with making such alteration in the form of the oath to will enable the Hon. Member to take the same." The proposals they had made had been one by one rejected, they were not in a position to renew them, and they were obliged to accept the resolution of the Noble Lord , the Prime Minister. The effect of the oath was the sub' stance of the oath, and that had been accepted by th e Hon. Member for Greenwich, apart from the mere so' lemnity of the oath. They had Acts of Parliament tbet declared how much was form and how much was sub' stance. These Acts were the let and the Bth of Ge°• 111., and though they applied to the oath of abjurations it was remarkable Veat in neither of them were the words, "on the tru'a faith of a Christian," to be found' In the case of Pease these words were struck out, an d were not substituted by others implying faith in the Christian religion, or that that religion was the tre e one. So, als o , i n th e common oath, the words "S e help me God!" did not mean to imply a belief in the existence of the Deity, but an invocation of his divine, interposition i n a tt estat i on of the truth of a statement under oath. If the oath of abjuration was to be talon at all, it must be tact' under the 6th of George 111., e. 23, which did not propose the objectionab le words, "So help me God.' They were supplied, ho e ever, at the i;able, to meet the common form of s wearint persons in thi s cc untry . If t h e argument were to b „ held good that the mere sub st it u ti on o f o ne word W l r . another was immaterial, provided only that the wore " true faith" 'were retained, then it might follow the ; the Hon. Mexnber for Greenwich might have been sworn " on the true faith of a Jew," which would he ll amounted to a solemn declaration of Judaism, or lobe lief in ChrissSanity. There was yet another observatio n that he would address to the Hon. Gentlemen o pposite' Her Majesty's Ministers had set up the difficulty of thei r / position a s an excuse f or the conduct which they it e i iliedly adopt e d. Y et , w h at was the line of conduc t the great leaders of the opposite party, when under Ci f ", cumstances which l e ft t h em a t lib erty to e epren their real opinio ns on t h e su bj ect ? Wh a t d l " Lord Stanley say when he was consulted 00 the matter in his capacity of privy councille r ; and a memb er o f th e C a bi net, an d when he was not acting a s th e mere l ea d er o f a f ac ti on ? 1) he say that those words were part and parcel of the cOO atitution; that they am oun t e d to a profession of Chri s ' tianity, and that to change them was to change the re ligion of the state? No, he did not. He (Mr. Anste" , . held in his hand a p a p er re l at i ng to c i v il disabilities In Jamaica, with correspondence on the subject. It I: peared that on th e sth o f M ay, 1829, w h en Si r G. I", ray was Colonial. Secretary, Sir J. Kemp, the governOr! requested the opinio n o f hi s A t t orney• Gener al a s to th. u _ effect of a local Act t o ex t en d certa i n pr i v il eges to tef ,` Jews, which had been m e nti one d i n i t . By a clause ti. the anada Act, any religiou s f o r m , or mo d e o f religion worship, was app o i n t e d not to b e a l tere d , excep t a fter certain specific conditions had been observed. T 136 question was well considered by the Duke of welling' ton's Cabinet, and a l so b y t h at of L ord Groy, and 1,°"" Stanley, in transmitting the decision of his Governmen t, said he could see no reason why the difficulty should 1 0 be removed by an enactment of the province. The pre sent Earl of De r by t h oug h t these religious di s tinctiott o of so small i m p ort i n that i nstance, that he said it $ not worth whil e t o trou bl e t h e I mper i al Legislature Oen, them, but that the difficulty might be readily dispose; of by the local assembly. If Jamaica received that rou e , sr attention, would they d en y it t o th e c ity o f L o ndon, v ) even to the borough o f G reenw i c h? H e (M r . Anetl 3o believed that, in 1833, th e E ar l o f D er b y un d ers t o od t ilt question hi its tru e sense , an d t h at h e was wrong noW o 1851. Why did th e y swear J ews i n courts o f l a w OPo_, the Old Testament? Because, as Jews, the Old Te.e,": o ment was binding u p on th e i r consc i ences , an d they gt on the authority of the common law. Following t4 lO precedent, and th e example of the courts, they swore Hon. Member' for Greenwich on the Old Testsn 3 e u _ o There had been decisions, even in the illiberal and it v e times of Jewi s h l awyers, t h at t h e bi nd i ng boo k s o f it Jewish gospels were contained within the PentatenT, They swore him three times as a Jew, and in doing o f made an asserti on o f t h e i r op i n i on that h i s forth, v t , oath ought to b e accepte d . But on the main pofit, of the question they had not heard a single smut:Be ea The Honourabl e an d L earned Mem b er for Abinge'd, had assented to opinions which last year he disput e He should l i k e to see them ta k e an opposite coulee',' suspend th e St an di ng O r d ers , an d sen d t h e Bill ti„ f, to the Lord s aga i n . If t h e N o bl e L or d could not II: sent to a resol u ti on w hi c h went i n f avour of the 1:1°, ; Member f o r G reenw ich, why did t h e N oble Lor d brier; forward a resolution which destroyed the Hon. Member._ position?—(Hear, hear.) If they send the case hefo,r; a court of justice, they w ou ld , probably, abide by tP... decision of that court. Th e difficulties which might tly; pear to be in the way m i g h t b e easily overcome. W'hbee s it should be shown to a court how inconsistent -0 House of Comm ons h ad been with itself—when it sh°l/ be shown that it h ad in one instance, by its resoluti on; declared the seat for the borough of Greenwich t° 0t full, and i n another resolution that it was 'is full, he th ought that the decision of court and would bo in favour of regarding the oath taken by fir' Alderman Salomons as most binding on his c onsoienf j ; and as all t h at could be required from him by law. be trusted on those grounds that the amendment which proposed would meet with the support of the Hou se , He did not t hi n k i t necessary to offer any further ob se h r e vations to the House on the subj ec t. H e f e lt that.' ; had done his d u ty—(Hear, hear)—he was not speeh l i e w against time, and should conclude with repeating his tention to press his:amendment. Mr. HE ADLAM had not tak en any part i cu l a r P,.4 art in this question before; but n ow t h at t h e quest i o n P" assumed a different aspect from that which it before spa peared in, he would state shortly to the House the vie 0 , which he entertained on the subject. the first p ifi i c r i". he did not think it possible that the House could e0 . .,b rate itself from the absurdities and inconsistencies 40 , 1 0 1 existed on this subject, under the present law. To o bit with the oath of abjuration in the manner proposed 0 1 0 the Government was utterly impossible; and under tb„,, c 0 circumstances, to compel Members on the most sol e occasions, occasious, whether Christians or Jews, to take W ho oath in the manner prescribed by the forma of t House, was moat inconsistent, and calculated to imp s e the solemn sense which the oath might have under othtot circumstances. Ile contended it was improper first of place in the hands of a Jew, who came to the table e 0 the House to be sworn on the Old Testament, and t h 0 , to requi re hi m to swear on the true faith of a Christieo It was m os t un j ust, he ma i nta i ned, to attempt to rettlebe those obsolete oaths formally, and making thens means of interfering with men's rights and privilego He mu s t p ay , i n express i on of his opinion, ttije if the evil s apprehend e d an d expressed by se,,,ot were ten times as great as th ey were, t h ey would ; l e justify them in maintaining those laws. He was P, 0 % fectly willing to admit th a t it was a most difficult %if; to say what was the co ns t ruct i on o f t h e statute en „tooe question. He had now, h owever, very strong himself on the subject —a subject on which very P i a misconception prevailed, i n consequence o f t h e i r ha ° 0 0 admitted the Hon. Member for Greenwich to swe et oth the Old Testament at the table of the House. The, o f Geo. 111. prescribes two things. First that the oe t ti or abjuration should be taken, and, secondly, the man e in which it shall be taken. When the statute ey e , it that the oath should be taken it did not enact 11 °" $ he was to be taken, but left it to common law; and in w S case of Christians, it resulted merely from whet, 00 6 the practice in this country. Such was in accore e tu te with the decision of Lord Hardwicke. The et e 'w then enacted that the oath should be taken a of cordance with common law. 'Thus, in the can the Christians, it was enacted that they should take he r oath oath in accordance with common law, and the e e 0 0 words of the statute, that they should take it he the true faith of a Christian." Now those se o r u3 ; o o" believed, were i n t ro d uce d b y t h e 10t h Geo. I V . , i s e ver sequence of the position i n w hi c h t h e R oman Cats, then stood. He could n o t fi n d an y authority svie e a' that those words could possibly be left out by t ije st ooa thority of the House of Commons. A s t h e law t t he when Mr. Pease, th e Q ua k er , presente d hi mse lf at table of the House, th ere was no statutor y enactor a n that enabled him to come t o th e t a bl e; b ut t h e re ^ tb oo Act which bore the form of affirmation, and he we t he enabled to comply w ith th e requ i rements o f the l aw ' ts , do House having dr awn up a new f orm to ena bl e hin 2 „ t he so. There was no di st i nct s t a t utory aut h or ity ,t it Sgs subject, and th e y s h ou ld so f rame t h e l aw as to aer . „ oo . ter the oath in the manner most bindin g on a 11341/. ~ . 1 .. . C) ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 TUESDAY EVENING-, JULY 29, 1851.. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 28. SMITHFIELD MARKET REMOVAL BILL. On the motion for bringing up the report on the Smith field Market Removal Bill, Earl GRANVILLE then rose to move certain amend ments on the report of the Select Committee on this Bill. His object was to obtain the omission of certain clauses which had been inserted in the Bill by the Select Com mittee, and the insertion of oertain clauses which the Com mittee bad struck out. He did not mean to impugn the conduct of the Committee, but he must just say one word on the mode of its constitution. It was a Committ ee of five; and one of the five was either a Whig Member of the House, or a Member of her Majesty's Govern ment, and yet there was only a majority' of one against the view taken of the Bill by her Majesty's Ministers. The clauses to which he objected were those which di rected compensation to be given to the corporation of the city of London. He thought that those clauses must have been introduced inadvertently by the Committee; and were, as he bad already stated, only carried by a majority of one. The Committee then thought that there was no reason for retaining the optional clauses of the Bill introduced by the House of Commons, inasmuch as the corporation of London had declared that it had no interest in Smithfield market, and had declined the option of managing the new market, as tendered to them. Now, he thought that it would be fairer to the corporation that the compensation clauses should be omitted. and that the op tional clauses should be re-inserted. He hoped that no member of the Committee would feel that he was a ctin g unfairly by them when he endeavoured to reverse their decision; for, if their Lordships, on referring a Bill to a Select Committee, were to be bound not to deviate from its report, there was no occasion for having further stages in the Bill. They would, indeed, be stultifying themselves by such a decision, especially in such cases as the present, where the report was carried by a narrow majority of one. The other plea offered against his mo.