The Sun. — London, England, 1850-02-08 00:00:00

Aleo de• --- -------___________ Na ito " one e o ern , tee s "'• lloth , ?Led to break the pie lee kf a free ' j ovcd fir centuries—they, like Us, heing anxious to adapt of putting down liberty arises, then her self-possession, I a te , , , parties hesitated fur seine instants to their constitution to the times in which they lived, and say, seeces to abandon her, and then she seems no longer telr ea; J deci de st 4atne .11 teetion. hla, at last the disarmed act there- to make it of practical utility—being anxious to asivanee to act by slow and crooked means, but comes forward te tt .eircuinstene Slowly the precession advanced until safely and gradually, and being reformers and not revo- promptly and impetuously in order to destroy all really egae lleed i w ,,_ ee, which has never been pstedei ly as int;onists, ceuld not be content with such a constitution sound and wholesome reforms wherever she fleets ' lt • " considered by the Walia c h e a signal to as that ; hut, above all, they coal:1.11w. a-cept a con- them. In 1791, what occesioned the last partition in ili ull.° "' followed , tar e .. Laed me a horrify ing stitutioa which had not ben agreed to by Poland? The introduction of a reform so well con ete ere cu d scene. One part of the all the different orders of the state, but was sidered end so promising in all its provisions as to call A ere Point e d na fielded to death, others pierced through only granted as a favour by the Sovereign, and, being so forth the eulogies of all writers and speakers . who have Re t . i nsegled ,9 11 , nt althetieles. Some h ange d on t re es gr a nted, might the neat day be withdrawn.—(ficar, lived ever since. In 1829, why did she interfere with e. e bu r o e With hay-forks • others thrown into eitt been) When the Diet saw their legitimate Sivt - Turkey? Because she saw Turkey engaged in intro 'llterci " "der blocks e " retied down upen them. 'Wo• reign deposed, the succession of his heir set aside, and &icing salutary and staple reforms ieto . the state. In 111°4 (he a r d , e ns were mutilated and murdered in the the none, heir, instead of corning to Fresbere, to take the 1848, we find she interfered in Moldavia for the same i nsp Th agu g g i b ra t anner, oath, as his predecessors had done, pouring foreign reeson ; and inlB49,only the other day,w hen Huegary put eta s eete r of Z a i er laded long. Roiebeel, a G e rmain the troops into the couLt-y, and every compait between f , rth the most legitimate of all claims to carry forward g 4 to e atuy a 1 g thei teeaughters not wham clung his wife and two the house uf Hapsburg aed Hungary broken, that constitution which the eeeple all enjoyed, Russia : saw in . prospect a great coestitutio . nal country, and she to g o r ur ealf 1 • , seeing any ossibility of avert- they adopted the precedent set them by um se at d m:strew ulath f a a n t 3, drew out hia double •a t C • Mors and Lords of England; and they immediately lost no time in pouring in her hordes of pee° , which, um s I'f• se % _, ll first h 4. his Companions, he had r e tained, dee,lared the throne vacant, and the further armed barbarians to crush the cause. Sir, I rejoice that l tit,' •• , iu, l ain or° daugi t,rs loaded again, shot his line of Hapsburg to be for ever extinct. No Republic the magnanimity of the Sovereign and the prompt La dtetapt, i n j? killed himself. ' The haste and the (a- was proclaimed, as again and again has been said. Toe cision and energy of my Noble Friend at the head of the''llis b ee lich he achieved this awes! deed, red tendency of the Hungarian people has always been Foreign Affairs have caused . Russia to suffer a cheek to s url rible 1 -7 " c ertain, his mutilated w it', su rviv e d monarchical; their Acts run in the name of the King such as she has not . experienced for a long time. the n i t ilb out 17 0 tpas t roPhe, and related it. Of 1,200 per- until the 4th of March. " Governor- Prosident,"dhe title The Cz tr must, indeed, at this moment bit koat e e e tarad es d en e l i ned wounded amongst th e bode o f given to Kossuth, is one well-known to the constitutional terly repent that .he ever acted in a way O E4' , diem ,—` these survivors, about 70 or 80, history of Hungary; but Hungary would have been at once eo . revolting and stupid as to claim ;elv es b r ' oleedi ne ettle ° , one, the who of the jute . willing to receive any prince as their king, who in his the extradition of the refugees from Htingary. (ari burgfromwas triumphant,hadeverythingh) e g gates of the fortress of Gyula Jet 'lnes rantees that he would adhere to the letter and way, his army cannel all before it, by its numbers and Ider s e e c e e ePid . e s li r t e th e commander of this pl a ce, - Whi c h spirit of th e ir law ; an d, w ithout foreign inter- by the bribes which were scattereJ; and being so sue 'lie r eedictin is '„ee e Austrian troops, drove t h e ax . vention, there is . n o doubt, that Hungary in her cessful, ho managed to stamp out liberty is Hungary, 41 11 1 11 ° 'lee r e • ( ;• it " blowe from the g ates, w h e r e , a ft e r righteous p u rpos e would have succeeded. In fact they he . established a hold on the Danubian provinces; ever) - ~i,greee d. eel entrance, they had sunk powerless had all been successful; there wore scarcely any Austrian thing smiled upon him; but when he came . t) those les here h et troops leL in Hungary, they had been successively brave but unfortunate refugees in Hungary, in order to 1, 1,11_4 fors ra ter ; sortie months were punished . by th e A us t r ians, beaten, until they could only hold one part of satisfy his thirst for vengeance, he found a Noble t i a 4 e n 'alaitt by General later, Puchner w a s d r i v en from the kingdom—a narrow strip of land—and then Sovereign . on the throne of Turkey, who magnanimously see 4 araiss a il h' e aeral Bem, and C san yi as H angs . Prince S c hwartzenberg adopted the suicidal pc- decided to act in opposition to his nefarious designs. e se Porpeo e , o Y, sentenced several of the ' instieators Hey of calling in the Russians. Hungary still, His ambassador showed an insolent tone and bearing, t ll,e g p e s d e e tire ;Ls, of the above-mentioned bioodshed'te b e however, opposed him, but not all the valour and courage and had the audacity to appear in person before the 0 4 -pers a respondents of the Austrianarty filled of their native generals could prolong the contest with Sultan without uncovering his head.—(A laugh.) The 1 14 92ti ati t 4 ' 60 countries with declamations on any chance of success. Not the flower of the Hunga• language employed by him was most offensive, and d es ; I e el . ei rerisei " . Fllt a r LE Ye i s • rise generals, aided by the intrepid and daring Bem, or though it has been said that the Russian ambassador Je st ion wee ' a true picture of the .e horrors. A the experience of his countryman Dexibinsky, or the did not exceed his instructions, I have reasons for be les' aid the sent from the Diet to Vienna on the sub- ardent courage of our own countrymen, General 'loving that such was not the case, but that he was ordered tf p li retee t e. we re formally received b the King and Guyon, could prevail agaimt, the Russian to employ almost , the very terms . and language that fee Pagan, And now the National Assembly hordes, aided by the broken forces of Austria, be did. The Emperor was determined to succeed, and seeteise, has elected by the e ktig il e the Arc; id ° P e e ned at Presburg noenwthea 2d o f j u g ly could not prevail against the overpowering influence of powerless, because the Sultan was supported by the 'lse. - aatee f, - , - , 1" StePhanproZunced a speech in the the intervermon of Russia, which is most pernicious, determination of the Government of this country. t I . say u e e e s i spre sset ci the throrn, and in that speech the and w ill b e f oun d t o militate against the interests of then,. honour to the Sultan, I say honour to toe Brins . h 134 hie eiPeedene his unalterable determination t m maintain Europe at large. The movemeet and cause of Hungary Minister who prevented so foul . a deed disgracing dis h trio:4l.ly slide of Hungary, and uphold all the laws, had t sleets deep root in the minds ( f every civilized country. I know, Sir, many friends of Russia are 's hun% 80:4iMatising the sots of Jellachich. Soon country ; its example would have been followed on all posed to eulogise . what they call . the moderation of the 1 2atie /13 , 8 ent, e i t , ' ; ne cessary laws were sent up fir the sides, and free trade established all over the world Czar . in having desisted from his demands, but he has :Wee ;aeeut a " n o t , answer was g iven, and the Di e t would have been the end ef the struggle. simply taken a leaf out . of the book of the fox, and find llye' of lion, t he L6aded by the President and a large This will he seen if one of the papers which I have ing he could not obtain what he wanted be . cause . the ',tea.'" ev e d" du u'e of Commons, to obtain some moved for shall be laid upon the table of the House. British fleet was in the way, he altered his intentions. 4 Witle g q lo 4 s eae l n i ve one only was given, ' and whilst the Besides this, Hungary would . always have been an effi- That was the true reason why he made the best he could sg es , rieg u , gai Vienna with the Minister, the King, dent barrier on the side of Russia; but now should there of his position, and said he would be content with some "eel e: and d e li g them, sent a letter, dated 31st of ever arise any dispute between Austrian and Russia, smaller concession. Though I have spoken in strong 7.te p e of is a s ee ra ssed to , the Vi cero y, d ec l a ring th a t there is not the least doubt but that Hungary would take terms of laudation of the determination not to give 'esi s e'alited t - em by which a r es po ns ible Minister had up arms on the side of Russia, so gnat is the hatred and up Kossuth and his bravo followers to the li t o d of th e . ( 0 ) Hungary _ fury of the Czar,. I cannot say that I am by the administration of the horror which Austria by her infamous conduct has ex Pti ee b c leti clo t h ountry, i,f its finance and its commerce, cited in the breasts of the Hungariann so great as to by any means satisfied with the result of the they colit.r,. ached from Austria, had been made and cause that nation to throw itself into the arms of its negotiation. lam not convinced that the fleet at the Th e Wer e a l, to the Preematie Sanction, and once-hated enemy. Sir, Ido not hesitate to say that Dardanelles has obtained all that ought to have been . e eg it was d eclared null, u s e r () i s, and of no effece this i n t e rf ere nce on the part of Russia in the affairs of obtained—that all . has been accomplished that might i a te gr avate th n aolinced that the Kin' was determined Hungary was a flagrant violation of the law ot nations; it have been accomplished. Although the Hungarians and 1, 14 4 4114 4 : la ws and subject ever one in Hungary was an interference in the affairs of an independent na- Pelee were not given up Ido not think that the people ;RNee A l to r i wer of Viena. Ile - re Y was the cause tier, with which Russia had nothing whatever to of this country will be satisfied with the fact that the •gaet; •M a th ' r " i w as determined that all the laws do. The pretust put forward by the Emperor Poles are still expelled from Turkey, and . . wilt most 44 411 11 .: constitution should not be carried into for this intrusion had not the slighesi foundation. likely arrive here before long in a state of pitiable indi emit:, and moreover that Kossuth and his brave compa tthiehaPon° e t ! was determined to have those laws In the whole Hungarian army there were not above g wig t wo h ad e h " w as exactly the same sort of quarrel 4,000 Poles, and of these not 40') came from Russian Po- nions arc to be kept in prison in Turkey for a consider % V II butle -ad i n this country, and which led to civil land. The Emperor had not the slightest shadow of a able time. Ido not think the people of this country will Me te Y N ero a countries the King was determined to right to interfere, even admitting the right of the ruler be satisfied with that—they . will not be pleased to find e l)4 tli a det ereage tis ,: e t and in bo•h co tries thepeople of a country to call in foreign aid to tell w hat he may that the Emperor of Russia in this, at least, has " 118 4-. tilt• pined to begoverned ' ' only b the consider a rebellion—a right, Sir, whi c h l a m v ery f i r Pal his way, because no doubt his aim is to prevent ti his c oerc ed " coul&not be said that the y Emperor from admitting. Even admitting this right the Emperor them coming to this country, for he dreads the effect 11 11 5 ett s . °ph tree will the Hunarians, for he came of Austria . had no right to call in Russian aid . to interfere which their presence will have upon public opinion. I eat g to Presburg, and granted his between him and Ilungasy, fir he was neither the de must say, therefore, that I think the Noble Lord ought "hor s, e „aotia ey a s on the first occosion • on the second, i Lire nor the de facto King ot Hungary, for the reasons to produce to the House all the information for which I he t bye sp e ' Q u e n P r Y, he was at occasion; a, when he an- which I have already detailed. I h ave ' also . some a p e r• have asked with regard to this transaction, at least so eetig J els Vi c es to be made from the throne to be to move for regarding the Danubian provinces of P eVal: far as the refugees are concerned. The Speech from 41 u p, C Otte ar , "r°3h As to the pre' erne of the laws lachia and Moldavia. Some two years on one pretence the Throne tells us that the differences terminat id satis tOly ;,:' so ec •i ci to the Pragmatic - Sai l -m . 6;n, there never Or another, Russia had interfere fin tie affairs of those factorily ; but we want to know what has been done, 'fe et , Related of foundation. The Pragmatic Sanction Provinccf. The people of that country had effected some a nd I sa y the House has a right to know what has been 11% 'talen t t ao order o f . successeon. It was an act al t'- at the and reforms, and, es usual, Russia was desirous of putting done in these matters, in order that it may exercise that r e , e ti me nothing mere, and the order ( f soccer- down anything ' which partook of ' the net i re of reform - , supervision over the acts of the Government which the t tr , ed wit ., v teat protection was taken, bad not been Unhappily sho succeeded, the country returned Noble Lord (J. Russell) has on former occasions stated . lif er th at tel It was not interfered with until long to its former state, and the Turkish Govern- to be its right and duty to exercise.—(Elear, bear.) die 1. 46 b a n o Emperor had abdicated not until ment was prevailed upon to sign some sort of Let us know what has been done, and I ti ei tio t e gr°ll e, r° ri t e u s er had renounced his ' claim to a treaty called the Convention of Belta Liman, tell the Noble Lord that all that was required has not „" 1 1 et . had e ' until after the next in sue- by which it was s tipulate I that neither Russia nor Tar- been done; therefore let us know why it has not been s' the i s altine ; t ilt forward claims with an inten- key should have more than 10,000 men in those princi- done, and let us be assured that all that could be done ORlie 4 th e f — :it ) , not until after the constitution palitiee. But even then Russia did not abide by her own has been effected.—(Hear.) I hope that the Noble ' t at 44 ' o• ' l arch, which swept away all the convention of the Ist of May. The troops were not yet eta, all th e institutions of Hungary; lg • e oe at was not until . • , , , papers• withdrawn. One of the which I sheet move for I are sure he will do right to the country by so doing, sg te et sehe things that the throne was declared va- on this occasion is a circular letter addressed by Count and he will give rue leave to say, that it is both essential altri g ettie sae:losing these laws were opposed to the Nesselrode to the Europsan Ambassadors on the subject to the House, and exceedingly desirable for his own hty i i 4 ON g' c tion, what force had it in Hungary unless e f this occupation, an extract from which I am character as a Minister, in order that he may stand e tl llle h tlloegr e th e Diet? None at all. It was notes- enabled to read because the Noble Lord had real right with the people, and continue to enjoy that good ttitcteitnittY. Validity. "41 4 have an h ave the sanction of the Diet before it it in the course of last session. This circular opinion which lam happy to know be has now long en hear) —that he should afford ns all The three estates of the realm states that " from the moment that in Moldavia and jeYed — (Hear, i() 'eer, ` t i it had a ri hteither to abrogate it g Wallachia law shall have established, and guaranteed the information which I have felt it neces- Ike it hy ° r to i nt e e lige to . reduce other laws partially t o thetroops ,- e - ssry and consistent with my duty to require. e e p ee ° th ee lt, or to pass laws which, pt' Ina • mediately the strictly defensive position which I the more earnestly call upon my Noble Friend on this geter e e , ette e e s , did pass,had effect u •t. they occupied before." Now, Sir, I ask the Noble Lord occasion, because, in former times, he has been extremely "410 to ti i L itt the reform carried n° b t DL°llwitss whether he thinks hat a sufficient guarantee for the energetic in pressing other Governments to produce si y to th e m th e e pragmatic S miler information; and over and above this, ho has made ge, " Ite la - °Unt i e : f c Sanction wets just as if e King peace of these provinces has been given? Has the Porte a , t e s 0o lo on 1=1:e, s e ter having given the royal assent e g sufficient uarantee? The Noble Lord knows how anxious it his boast that the Governments to which ho belonged, Otte' th e " e , ' ,should have trio. Ito set aside that Porte is to have the the Sublime Convention of more than any other, furnished information when it was -4 me - Pea that it ' Bette Liman carried out, and yet after this declaration eged of at.-.. (u was coietrary to the law f e required by Members of this House.—(Hear.) I trust, ru ed th Pote eo N ear, hear.) Jellacbetch, formally de- N I I 'll •b • believed that Russi e(`,cunt eSSe roe e a, wi it c .. a still therefore, that we shall have on all these subjects full L el e lt ' was, neve th le s allowed to hold it.retains no less than 4b,000 men in those provinces? The and complete information, which may enable us to form I lls that It '• • r s ' Diet Noble Lordthe head fthe F • Departm en t,in a just and correct feeling upon them; for sure lam thst a ale e te e I ri Ministry resigned. The dc-at o Foreign ells. us aws which lied bean in vain presented i vite -h ich 1)14 in force t e . regal cros sed provisionally, and meanwhile . Member for Youghal (Mr. Ansley), stated his convic- will not be satisfied.—(ll(ar, hear.) Therefore I 1 te eeal , the Danube at three different points, WM that these Russian troops would speedily be with- th ink it is absolutely necessary that all the information i 43 ' ; s nt '. T . Gr eat troops, aided by Austrian drawn. He will excuse me for stating that lam not al- that can be given should be afforded.—(Cheers.) The Hungarians,stoe:ealeted tl e,, in the absence of together satisfied with that assurance on his part. I Noble Lord concluded by moving an address for copies ' . " l d "al' • tuinist in believe my Noble Friend stated in the course of de- or extracts of any correspondence between the British Is t . ee e u nae , ry, and consequent con- . • °te cease "le to oppose any considerable force; le el, en late that it was perfectly (lee for any Mem er to say _, .., , b Government and the embassies at Constantinople, Sc. b land Vienna r „ te e hear t saence was, that the Croats advanced that he did not entirely partake in any opinion which I etees urg t, ~ . . especting the demands of f H ''' the Iy v °t th e ' • • d • might be delivered, on such peints, and I now state that Russia and Austria for the extradition ePolish, un g e ar eet . en country, pills hag and plun ermg i e ser a t aY to te d he Diet then offeeed the commend• . Ido out retakep in chat opinion of my Noble Friend; garian, and Italian re fagees; of any correspondence ba h •ei ti "'Le Arehd k d his •of Captain- the Government of this country and the Govern and I will tell the House why Ido not. the Noble tween , . . le t og e ac ee „, ue in citpacity r e ase a t adett en teed it, and joined nee army, but after Lord will recollect that when these troops first entered b ments of Turkey, Russia, and Austria, on the same sub he - t e es te e Ure,d in vain to effect arrangements Muldavia, I called his attention to the . , fact, and he ject; of any correspondence between the Government hie ut cl te Apposing created the matter very lightly, and said they had en- tthis sy . f countr and the embassies at Vienna and St. Pe w te4 ro u , ug forces, he left the camp and tr . ‘ N Rtiatio ugh Pestia to Vienna, wit ere he tendered ofthe Russian tared without the consent t aaeil 3 tetels e 4 ' whi h I called his attention to the fact again, and the of this country and respondence between the Government . e -are r a c was not accepted. On the 25th In 1848 Pest e higeed et royal ordinance, which had not been Noble Lord said they had entered Molda . via, and wouUl the Governments of Austria and Russia on the same sub tj‘lll "' e a% ' "'cod all of proposal addressed by the late 44 giber er g; but the the Hungaraen troops under Friend that they have entered Wallachia. Again, my national Government of Hungary to the Government of \h ie sit bran illegal, and re Diet declared the appointment Noble Friend, on the matter being forced upon his at- Great Britain respecting the admission of British manta. r 4 e the e e 'l the required the counter signature. . , factures and produce into Hungary; also, copies or ex metl, e decree and was proceedin to• tendon, again said e ltti s " the h ad tei to t a n ' e j - ho But a year and three-quarters have elapsed, and they tree of a y P tract] n corres ondence between the Government eto - ge i n ridge of ec 0 tho commie , when was are nut act withdrawn. My Noble Friend says, "It is of' this country and the Ambassadors at Constantinople e se t h en , whi ns „e n ats by a crowd, dragged from the question of time." Now, I will aele my Noble Friend, and Se Petersburgh, and the Consuls at Bucharest and e et g een u e l: h ad i;leeli madewas seated, and murdered. A n a i supposing that he had a troop of soldiers quartered Jassy, respecting she occupation of the principalities of „„ r t5,,,,..f this event against the l i lung , ariens , i s u al o P n him, lg and hai their horses to keep, and that on re- the Danube by Russian troops; of any correspondence aged be , eis nature , and most des? lovable it was.between tee Government of this country and the Go P e t' with the commandine officer, he were coolly gno a cee perretrated by mobs were not the Monsza ing th' e 't te e u atei e to yuntrY could be fairly judged, and they told, Oh, my good fellow, ,, don't put yourself ' about, it's vernments of. Turkey and Russia on the same subject; the Noble Lord and copy of the circular of Count Nesselrode, dated the bi atie n ation a ny nation, unless indeed it appeared all a question of time. How would pay? And h et, h e.--( 0 ,. h ad manifested an utter indifference to like that if he had all the weekly bills to l9th to the 3lst day of July, 1848, addressed to the re °Pro ° at les of "II hear.") The Hungarian this is just the ca.e with Wallechia and Moldavia. Presentatives of the Russian Government at the different tee. r . Ve r be , ear, __ _ e i eeti ree et wh' at eT passed a resolution expressive of The leuselau Government does not support its Courts of Europe.—(Cheers.) wee tk to e e had occurred, sad they directed own troops, but the unfortunate inhabitants are Mr. ANSTEY seconded the motion. I ; !ilit e t et eireentaken to bring the criminals to justice. saddled with the enormous expense because too Lord PALM.ERSTON—My Noble Friend has tra tsilleh ~!ts e ve nl e stance had occurred there was a series litrueror of Russia chooses to act contrary to hie yelled over so wide a field that I "am persuaded the 'h. "ell e•entilne. f during andenable him to on his designs . • • 14 4 * . achieh had from January to October, treaties, to carry House will not expect I should follow him in detail fee' i ,"d I nad the command of the Austrian against Hungary last year and against Turkey. Abe - at' bapsast say that his e •and d • I think my Noble Friend, if he wire in such a position ja'bot's es h esee exactions atrocities through all those various important transactions to which a. 'gip / •-• Passed,andonlyequalled by the • I have supposed, would soon be very heartily tired of his speech has related. I can assure my Noble Friend tab 'anio n - as ~ t e arc, s and tine .Calledcruelties of It est ' the intrudere, and would do all he could to get rid ef e e or some J. q 0,4, e The executive wer of the committee them. And so would Turkey now if she could. This all the information upon those transactions which t e t al Jed Mme In obey • but immediatelytyranny ought not to be [-thawed. If my Noble • te e oe sts l e , ,atee, was re- with the public • ' it may be consistent ' 'al "'eta rote ' d I was then that tho Friers I had protested at first against the er.- Ae i tetio "on riga . ca.e . t o consistent with those courtesies that are duo between that y et _ t , wa s in st Count Latour was made, and trance ( f those troops which it was pretended - get ant H ies _ en order to put him to death. had entered unauthorised .7 -a very fine way indeed for Governments and countries, to tfferd. The motion Ole:at Bat scandalous reports were circulated Russia to feel her way—it, I say, he had protested then with which he has concluded embraces so large T i 'e fie' eulYany was impl• ated in this act; but energetically, it is my firm belitf that those troops never a mass ( f correspondence, comprising not only 11 14 , k i ,„ E q to ht , ic tli r t 4a r which elated bring whateverofl3 I) ite •1 at all, and that in all probe of her M forward any proof i : i would the ave eenai catastrophes ori N s v e l e ,ich ntpinro all the confidential communications M s-14 deluged 11 4 w of e i o ci p pee _ ap, these slanders in order to justify a r i l l t h yhloodjesty's Government to our Ambassadors and Ministers never teoild have occurred. ussia would gary th o 144Y4t li thit L a nni ; • e, as still Themore atrocious than l a . t et e !lede r t roself w Latour. murder of Count lave . backed out of this as she has done on misty such abroad, but also communications between ether Govern fie, Lo h s of t , as more atrocious, because it was occasions, anthat . , d ' would not have ha ned whichmeets, of which knowledge may have been given to the .pPe lall e e e on ewo the'ieinnocent man. The Government took now all liberal-minded men deeply deplore. say, Government of her Majesty, that I trust my Noble Friend e aet e l . up on ' sentence upon Count Batthyany car- liberal-minded men, for nut only in England, but over and the House will think I am not asking teem much of 4 tB L atour the a • o the A whichall the greatest enthusiasm liar been incited in • ro t N eje ur sea . anniversary es dry on their forbearance if I entreat them not to press the motion e a D eg etat C oll ' murdered, thereby wishing to insin- favour of this brave nation. Nay, the contagion has , ok Per e h oly t it Batthyany a crime which they dare spread across the Atlantic; there I have heard of honour in the words in which my Noble Friend has put it, but re% r _ av, d eclare against him. Now, the news- being done to the Huegarians by tee first magistrate of to allow me to select out of that great mass of papers e eeov e er t h stated tltl it 0 that Count Batthyany was the country, and I believe there is at this present time such documents as may explain to the House the Fours li ion c at uf v _murder of Count Latour, but the under discussion a proposition to suspend intercourse all which her Majesty's Government has pursued, without h e eefea tee seta e le nea dares not to make such a charge, with Austria in consequence of her conduct to Hungary. giving do ails, which would he inconvenient to the pub • * ter li -t d of n ee ° ll Count B h • there is not one I could not help, Sir, being sorry to hear my Noble lie service, or laying before the House those confidential . ee t e te , se ts . • att any t er t kled g raurd er atiete. against him on that account. Friend talk of allowances being made; Ido not like cornm , unications that may have have passed between her her Ministershe ll e l av r l' Jella r de ° ; l , Count Latour Vienna was sue- these allowances, which are always to be made for the Majesty's Government and . abroad, or e'de e reed eetea. The I ' ,l forces cf Hun• great and powerful. I hope my Noble Friend tween then and the Ministers of other countries.— NaN the y to advance mpe . r . ta _ iht have will take the opportunity tc-night of telling (Hear, hear.) With regard to tho war in . Hungary, I et 1 1 4 .° thee'relit which they m g .. tee e wee-e" to have done; but they hesitates . - •1 us what these allowances are that are to be had an opportunity last session of stating the views %Is e T eati sel ekt i eer p uot provided with an authority from male, that he will explain to us the circumstances which I entertain of that question. I can only say that opinions which I know ale enter ‘ll„ e /% ar —v alid '“ n wever, they did advance and fought which call for those allowances . being made. Ido not those feelings and . . on ,EI. th e 'tie • aoil Only battle that was fought during think that there is any subject of more imports ice tamed upon that matter by the great majority of the are rer hotd feelings which Its%ll to a g eye Hungarian. I will not go through which can be pressed upon the attention of my Noble people of this country are opinions an 1 ; ttp: (/ Elo vents of the late war; there is not Friend. lam well aware that when first I brought it have done great cre lit to the country, and which,.trust,. e ell. .se even ot4o r , With : if • I had a desire to weary forward, it did not rivet the attention of the country, I might almost say I know, no , Englishman will differ At the same `fiber, vf" that " n y such details.—(Hear, hear.) but now I think the case is different—the country is from in any respect whatever.—(Cheers.) . et at 13 em 11, 0 ,A,(1 N ., all 10 „.. , who took the command, in De- aroused to the importance of the question,. and it is time lam sure the house will . . feel, that 'a a matter in it eag dee e ee, b y t 'Y that originally did not number more fully determined to maintain the integrity of the Otto- fere, the f • - which England had no direct right to inter ere, urn d to the di •lle 'et tOr T 40 middle of March had cleared the man Empire. Every Government which we have seen, tions of the British Government with regard se ell e e A ran v o . s Ala ussi. J'aula of the Austrians and had the Government ef the I)ake of Wellington and of the rection of events must be necessarily . extremely limited. l ei. Nit ' Thale, who had invaded the terr ' itor from Ilon. Baronet the ML ruler fur Temworth, as vi el as Therefore, however strong may be the interest set e al e Hungarians y On. lei 4 li e re% e who had not abandoned that of my Noble Friend Lelow, and even that Protsc- which the Government ( f England,. as representing ase o hidi se tt Oh the banks of the Th • havin tionist Government, whose advent we have been the public opinion of this country, might take in those In e Ne e n l e fee nd gratz, Welded and all the other Aus g - tau lit to expect, will, I presume, follow this events, the House will naturally suppose that the active ise'Neh u f th e c e rs, and had driven them to te very cou g rse, for I have heard the Honourable interference of the British Government must necessarily rn thalti 4 ad, °lintry. In t t it i _ , t , pt ed • the mean time the Austrian Gentleman, the Member _. . for Buckinghamshire have been restricted within limits, perhaps far more nar policy in strong row than to which their feelings might wish them , s t „ .. ett ri a ey eey certain measures, which had the effect with very great pleasure, advocate this those . , . le' t he e is en l ari in Hungary whO had not already and I must say in 1 quent terms, as that necessary to exceed.—(Cheers.) With regard to tee principah eu/vell 9 .1) " The ,very e o "914 It about • - Emperor Ferdinand had some for the honour of his own country and for the voice of ties of Wallachia and Moldavia, my Noble , Friend and en s 14 0 noon violating an oath. Although it Europe. In areuing this question I would not be sup- myself have discussed that question before. The House °O r ein u tetet his mind was weak, in fact, that ho posed to be an ' advocat m for war, I believe that war in is aware that Russia does stand, in regard to those prin q eon lef t to l ti , t s ter mental imbecilityestill he had sense this case is entirely' in:necessary. A great deal also has cipalitiee, upon a footing different from that upon which f t , 'at o t. ac rum uw that he had taken ' an oath, and he been said about " Russiaphobia," and I have been con- the Government h tt d he, es about a t e, t i t RO actin in the matter, but, N.. sid ere d to b e a ffli cte d with that malady. . Now, I will to Provinces belonging to another country. There was t ala °a • c 'd late • g ti lt° s to _ hd ie _ ttlti no rot his44ollli: throne,and his , , aist 9 e t h te e 4 astri a. rt lels., on the 18th, ascended the voice to Ituesie, and tells her that she will nut have ain thieshape of a convention—by which the two Govern tees e Of WOrk of On the 4th of March a new coned- certain course pursued, that the voice of this country ments . of Russia and Turkey oegaged that the forces of it s ' eve, tttts t cPount liras and Dr. Bach, now Mi- will be obeyedwithout 1 • occasion to make it heard Russia and Turkey in those provinces should, after a a tit Phb • Vienna, laving Ilt id 44 liali d, was published. The constitu- in the roaring of cannon. I know it is a perfect farce certain period, be reduced to the amount of 10,000 hter th e ll e °f all th rd bY it all the laws, customs, and for Russia, to talk of resisting this nation. At men. My Noble Friend is correct in stating that the Pe eh laele e rretri an nations, wore Bought Placed that same time I am so fer a Russiaphobist, Turkish Government has carried that engagement 4 1 n'e, or or us e s ni en atrol, without regard to taeir bee "at I should dread allowing this weakness into effeet, and that the Russian Government has not ~ e f t, the _wheth er ,or whether they were dear to t h e of Russia to turn into an overpowering might. hitherto done so. I stated on a former evening that k ato u t lki l ' W ete et e all ue Yhadanything to recommend them lam not disposed to allow Russia to become possessed I believed, and it is my conviction, that the Rua aueo h ial ger sw ePt ab h• t • tt . f 1 ' 1 • 11 h h . He Government is about to carry that engagemeet into es tr a „, , whi nt . way yt is new cons i u ion ot ie most tertee portion of tae gmee, nor tue most im- ma ee v e Utti nall of ef " was intended to throw allpower Portant btatiens, because if that be done she will be no execution. My Noble Friend, perhaps, does not partake ew ttilt ut Plibliarld more tr • i lt was more sweeping, more longer weak, she will no longer be able to submit to such of my conviction. I can only . say that the information 4104% ZiqS ofd or no n 'y, revolutionary, than anything meneures as this country ma y thi n ', necessar y, but, o n the we have received very latel leads me to think that the nee en e Prat te • la temPlated even by the con- contrary, she will ease mad e a grea t s t re t c h t owar ds un l- Turkish Ambassador recently sent to St. Petereburgh tei to c i °N em ,e iteelf. g e wi v eeply with that The II ' •ht vernal dominion. She will threaten our Indian 'has received an assurance to that effect from the Govern ungarians mi empire; she not "1 cripple ri t , Leh att ach „„ constitution had they weour commerce, and do us an irreparable injury, mont o Russia, f and that the amount of the Russian ategttriana th ey h ed to ad their own ancient mode of and then force us into a sanguinary w a r, o f w hi c h th er e i s troops in those provinces will very speedily be reduced i kest e le s wi I, had e enjoyed for centuries. If the now no danger, nor for which is th ere an •R.• to yoccasion. Russia 10,000 . ._ • lits e at se; s eed to eeen the frantic revolutionists s. theirwill never a b an don her design of traditionalfully e with him as to the severe pressure which the elted s e t h thi ~7,,Opr e sent there, is aggrandise- agree •) e a aeosso t 4 , ere, they might have been meet; but this to be noted in her, that thou ;h she presence of those troops must occasion . to the inh • able- Mel ee , u tlon ; but the i U b • be patient, and though sho may agerandise, not by con- ants of those principalities. It is perfectly evident that e, ce — • . .y, i einz, - eztitution which they had eu- peat, but by insidious means, yet whenever the question 4 the obligation under which they have been laid for sup- polt . ng and providing fur so Large a body must have imposed upon theM sacrifices and privations cl a very painful and ex'eusive character. With regard to that more important transaction connected with tho demand for the e that which took p:a3o between the Governamits of England and Francs on the one hand, and the Governments of Ruszia and Austria avid the Government of Turkey on the other, is generally so well known that little remains f A. me to sate which is not already within the cognizance of the public at large. I shall be perfectly ready to give such papers as will show the course we pursued on that occasion. It is well known that after the termic ation of tl e war in Hungary a very consider• able nvinber of persow, Hungarians, Poles, and some Italians, took refuge in the Turkish provinces. A de ma7id was made by the Governments of Austria and Russia Till key for the sur ren d er o f su ch of those that constitutional obligation which bound the House if Hapsburgh to the people of Hungary, it must be remem bered that England gearantced the I'iagmatic Sanction adopted by Hungary; he meant the constitutional prero gatives of the House of Hapsburgh on the one hand, and the constitutional rights of the people of Hungary on the other; and, having wasted our blood and treasure in support cf it, we had a right, if not a duty, to see that the stipulations then accorded to that people by that House were performed. After a sheet pause, as no other Hon. Member rose, Lord DUDLEY STUART said, as his Noble Friend had as,ured him that he was prepared to lay on the table of the Howe a considerable number of the documents moved for, if the motion were withdrawn, and the selec tion left to himselr, he should be very happy to accept that arrangement; but before doing so he should like to know whether the Noble Lord meant to give some papers on each of the different transactions to which he had alluded, whether he would give some of the correspon dence with regard to the Hungarian war, some with regard to the Moravian question, a ed whether he would give the proposal of submission made by the Hungarian Government. He should like to know what the offer was, and what he had to expect, before lie agreed to accept it. The Noble Lord had sail he did not expect that those persons would be de tained and deprived of their liberty f)r any length of time; that their captivity, for it was nothing else, would at least be short; and he had also expressed his per suasion that the generosity cf the Turkish Government would be such as to take care that, during the time they were kept in its territory, they should receive every pro tection and every comfort they could desire. He hoped so too; but he was not quite convinced that it was in the power of the Turkish Government to provide either for their comfort or their protection while they were in Turkey. It was known that the Austrian Government was unscrupulous in the means to which it resorted to obtain its ends; witness Gallicia, and the scenes which had occurred in Hungary, at tne insti gation of Austria, of which he had read a description in the early part of the evening. In Austria such a thing had happened before now, so that persons disagreeable to certain Governments had been put out of the way by assassination.—(Hear, hoar.) He had information to the effect that something of the kind had been attempted—at any rate, had been planned—with regard to Kossuth, and other eminent Hungarians now detained in Turkey. Some months ago he had this from a person who was then present with Kussuth at Widdin: —A stranger arrived there, and took great pains to come into communication with the cook who dressed the food supplied to Kossuth, and with the physician who ren dered him his medical assistance. And shortly after it was found that some of the liquor which came to the table had been practised on, and had had something infused into it which gave great suspicion that poison was intended. Later or, in December, a number of persons were reported to have arrived at Shumla, where Kossuth and his brave companions then were; these persons were Austrians, or at least furnished with Austrian passports, and the Turkish authority gave nofice to Kossuth that they had reason to believe these persons had come to Shumla with a design upon his life and that of some of his companions. Having given this notice (which he kne e• from Kossuth himself), the Turkish Government added that they were unable to interfere with those Fersons whose murderous inten tions they suspected, on account of their being fur nished with Austrian passports. If this was the pro tection and comfort which these unfortunat ?, but noble and brave, patriots were to enjoy during their cap tivity, or during that species of surveillance which it pleased the Emperor if Russia to subject thorn to, there was no season to be by any means satisfied with the arrangement that had been made. And he rather thought that the Sultan, if any such proceedings could be brought home to the Austrian Government, would be peif_ctly justified in departing from any en gagement to which he had come with reference to those refugees and immediately set them at liberty. Nay, more, if he could not protect them in his dominions, he was bound, doubly bound, to set them at liberty. Lie trusted the Noble Lord would diteet his attention to this matter, and would use his influence with Turkey in order that Turkey might see these men, who were im prisoned under the requirements of a treaty, which treaty, however, was not so positive that it might not be read two waye, might not be assassinated in her do • minions. It was very true that they had no right to press on Turkey a particular line of policy, however desirous they might be to do so in the present case; but they had a right at the same time, to see that Turkey was not compelled by any other power to adopt a ling of conduct which would be pleasing to that power. He was happy to say that tl o Noble Lord had exerted that right most efficiently.—(Hear, hear.) But hi 3 Noble Friend might be sure that, although they had no right to dictate to Turkey, there was a thorough persuasion in the minds of the people of this country, that such was the influence of England with Turkey, they would not believe that Turkey would adopt any line of policy which would be disagreeable to this country. And if they saw the Turkish Government disposed to falter in the noble cause in which they had so nobly embarked, they would not be brought to believe that it was not owing to her not being properly sustained by the legitimate influence of England.—(Gear, hear.) He should be glad if his Noble Friend laid before them such papers as might be satisfactory. Lord C. HAMILTON said that there was nothing in executions since the termination of; the struggle, and he had no he3itition in calling it one of the foulest and bloodiest death rolls that he ever cast his eye upon.— (Hear, hear.) After Hungary had fallen—not by the power of Austria— (Hear, hear)—but after she had fallen by the interl cation of Russia, a foreign invasion and domestic treason.—(lrea:, he ar.) When Austria had succeeded by these means, and when, if at all times the victorious party should show forbearance, there never was a time when ft)rgiveaess and forbearance were more appropriate and necessary, Austria, entered upon those bloody and atrocious executions which were a dis grace to humanity, at least in modern times.—(Lond cheers.) Ile confessed he felt the greatest surprise at hearing any person &fending and advocating Austria in these abominable proceedings.—(Hear, hear.) Ile would read a list of tlose executions, and the House would, he was sure, fed horror-struck at the noble and illustrious blood shed on this occasion:— EXECUTIONS AND PUNISHMENTS. CHURCII. _ _ _ individuals ai wer,; Austrian or Russian subjects. That demand was founded on the treaty of Kaimardji with regard to Russia, and upon the treaty of Belgrade in regard to Austria. The Sultan, feeling that the obliga tions of hospitality, which are considered even ',more paramount, if possible, in the East than in any other part of the world, precluded him from complying with that demand, and looking at the terms of the treaty of Kaimarq, and dug that he had clearly an alternative, and that the engagement contracted by that treaty permitted him to choose that alternative, he refused- to comply with the demand made by Russia of Sltrl °adoring. those individuals, but stated that he was ready to fulfil the other condition of the treaty, namely, that of expelling those chiefly Poles, from his territory. With regard to the demand of Austria, it certainly did not appear, by the treaty of Belgrade, that there was any condition which required the Sultan to surrender Austrian subjects who might have sought reruge within his territories; with regard to Austria's demand, therefore, he was still more at liberty to refuse compliance than ho was with respect to the demand made by Russia. Tne manner in which those demands were made at Constantinople by the or gans of the Russian and Austrian Governments excited alarm in the Government of Turkey a 3 to the conat quences which might follow from a refusal to comply with those demands, even though the Government of Turkey felt that they were not by treaty compelled or liable to comply with them. In that state of things the Turkish Government turned its eyes to those friendly powers to whom it might look for support, and an up peal was made to the Government of England, and also to the Government of France, fur their friendly support in the critical circumstances in which Turkey might find itself. Her Majesty's Government, acting, as I think they did, in strict unison with the uni versal feeling of the country, as it was m anifested on that occasion —(hear, hear, and cheers)—determined to give the Sultan the support which he had asked.— (Cheers.) Friendly representations were made to the Government of Austria and the Government of Russia, explaining the grounds upon which it appeared to her Majesty's Government that the Sultan was not bound to comply with the demands which had been made. It is but due, howea ee to the Russian Government to state that the Sultan having sent a special ambassador to St. Petersburgh, for the purpose of requesting the Emperor to desist from the demand which be had made, and to accept the other alternative of the treaty—it is but due, I say, to Russia to state, that the day before our friendly representation reached St. Peterburgh, the Russian Government had made a communication to the Turkish ambassador, stating that Russia no longer insisted on demanding a surrender of the Poles, but consented to the alternative for their ex pulsion, There followed upon that, however, a long negotiation with regard to the detailed conditions which were proposed on the one side and objected to, iu a certain de?;ree, on the other. Those negotiations ended at last in an arrangement between the Turkish Government and the Emperor of Russia, by which the Turkish Government agreed to expel, as by treaty it was bound to do, the Polish refugees from the Turkish territories. With regard to Austria, the Turkish Go vernmeat undertook to remove the Hungarians—not to put them in prison, as my Noble Friend has stated, but to remove them to a distend° from the Austrian territo ries, and t!,e:e Oetain themiunder that description of ob servation of which, happily, no English word conveys the meaning—under surveillance for a curtain limited time. The diplomatic relations between Russia and Turkey have been reestablished. Diplomatic relations between Austria and Turkey were not actually re-estab lished, but there was every reason to suppose they would bo within a fsav days after the last dispatches came away. During the negotiations which took place at Constantinople the most perfect harmony and co operation existed between her Majesty's Ambassador and the Ambassador of the Republic of France, and no doubt it was greatly owing to the friendly offices of those diplomatic representatives that those questions, involving great difficulty and com plications of various kinds were brought to a suc cessful issue; and I am bound to say that it is impos sible for any man to have acquitted himself in such diffi cult circumstances, and in the execution of such an arduous duty, with more ability, more judgment, and more discretion, than Sir Stratford Can n i ng h a d d one in the task which it had fallen to his lot 'to perform. ) My Noble Friend has expressed an opinion in respect to the arrangement which has been made, and has declared that that arrangement is not altogether satisfactory to his wishes and views. I am free to confess that if had been a matter depending solely upon the will and decision of her Majesty's Government, there are many circumstances connected with that arrangement that we should have wished to be different from what they turn out to be. But there were treat!es to be ob served—there were offers which had been spontaneously made—engagements which had been voluntarily offered, and which could not be altogether retracted; and acting under the circumstances as they stood, and bearing in mind that although it was desirable to support the Turkish Government in resisting the demands which it would have been unfitting for that Government to comply with; yet, on the other hand, we should have been acting an unfriendly part if we hai urged that Government to place itself, without ne cessity, in the perilous position of a rupture with its two great and powerful neighbours—consider ing, on the one hand, the difficulties from which it was desirable to extricate the Turkish Government, and, on the other hand, considering the concessions which the Turkish Government ought not ts be compelled to make, I believe the arrangement such as has been made is the best which, under all the circumstances of the case, it was possible her Majesty's Government could see ac complished. None of the refugees have been given up. The Polish part of them are free to depart to other por tions of Europe, where they will be in a state of com plete liberty; and those Hungarians who are for a time detained in the Turkish territory I hope will not be de tained there long. At all events, I am quits satisfied nand with th a t the Turkish Government, f rom it s gener ous feelings and from its some of the duties o f h o spitality, will take ca re that while they are within it s t err it or i e s every at tention will be paid to them w hi c h i s cons i s tent with their u y n sie distinguished. hot e that m y N o bl e F r i en d w ill consen t begquali ties to e f xw o ph r r t iec sh n s e t tu a h re othe en eminent conclu n, to accept the offer I have made to him, and allow me to submit to the House such portions of the papers he has bey l of ; je i tvn d hne trae u mtrt n eoto o t a n tee.crd t ee h ebl e dayert e t rmt a uos b ysu l tt e bNh stelotwiabeinitethl motioniaoF leururti reasons ie b ai e dw : t: n hti f s esl rf y n o j br injurious moved believer u t i i osswr me when wet s the hhi c eni a nt public b ya b slse power y it Mr. ANSTEY said he saw no reason, after what had transpired thct evening, to alter the opinion he had ex pressed on a former occasion of the noble conduct pur sued by her Majesty's Government with respect to the extradition of tie Hungarian and other refugees now in Turkey. In this instance, and he trusted it would be so on ail similar occasions, they had broken through that system of truckling to Russia which they and their pre decessors in the Government had followed for so many years. Re thought, too, that the noble sentiments ex pressed by the Sultan would not fail to make their due ivapression on the Cabinet, and he hoged that it might be long and lasting. He entirely agreed with his Noble Friend in thinking that th e accommo dation that had been efcctel was unsatisfactory; but he could not con ceal from himself that the chief difficulty to which the Noble Lord the Foreign Secretary had adverted e almost iu express language, w as create d b y t h a t t r eaty of 1841; a nd that with that treaty star i ng hi m in the face, our Ambassador could not, nor could the Ambassador of France, offer to the Sultan that prompt and imme diate assistance which would hate been necessary if the accommodation hail been rejected and war hat been proclaimed. He must also say that the resu l t cf the p roceedin g s was due, not so much to our Ambassador and the Ambassado r o f F rance , as to the Prime Minis ter of the Porte, and he t rus t e d that her Majesty's Go vernment would learn from this a salutary lesson, and that in her 'mut e relations with Russia in respect to the hands as they did iu 1841. With respect to the other Porte they would take care not again to fetter their own part of the question alludel to by his Noble Friend, and to which the greater part of the documents he demanded related, he must say he could not understand upon what principle it was that the Noble Lord the Foreign Se cretary, as well as every Minister, of whatever political complexion he might Le, could come down to that House upon such an occasion and allege that the public service could possibly suffer from the publication cf the entire of every document indicated iu the notice of his Noble Friend. That observation applied rarticularly to the case of the Danubian principalities, for it ap peared that those documents were asked for with reference to the performance of a solemn obligation entered into with the assistance at least, if not by the mediation, of our own Sovereign in the course of last year, the object of which, as hit Noble Friend lied said, and sa'd truly, was to secure peace in the principalities, and ensure the great object of our diplomacy—the maintenance of the Turkish empire; but which had been violated by one party to it —Christian Russia—whilst it had been observed by the other—anti-Christian Turkey. Tho Noble Lord said that, although Russia, had violated the treaty, it was now going to be kept; but it must be observed that the time for its rerforte awe was the 31st of December, 1849, which was now past, so that it was impossible that it could be strictly kept; and it appeared to him that the House would respire something more than the assurance of the Noble Lord that Russia had fixed some other day for its fulfilment. He trusted, however, that if Russia lied done so, she would observe it with more fidelity than she had observed her recent engagement. There was, he feared, every reason to believe that the season for operations would not he suffered to p ass by , and that the numerous forces now qua rtered or et h aepeeple in that Danubian principalities would at the approach of spring be employed by the Czar against this Sovereign power. Su that it was no question of time, but one that called for immediate decision. As to the other question—that Ho would merely w bhea h ti i w cli el w nle a nA s lately ut,rsotrmia p ha ., it nd ing, s). duun an d now, unhappily, Noble ga yrenh de. concurredti between in whate observe that when the Noble Lord_said that England had no immediate right or obligation to interfere in the set tlement of that question, or to enforce the performance of the Noble Lord's first address which called for any serious observation. Any person acquainted with the history of Hungary must be aware of the extraordinary errors into which the Noble Lord had fallen; and the condition of the House—the empty benches, and the frigid manner in which page after page of the observa tions ho had read to the House from a bulky manu script were received by the few who remained to hear him, demonstrated the little interest which was felt in t.c, subject ; but for the honour of the House and the country, he (Lord C. Hamilton) hoped he would be supported in calling upon the Noble Lord, if ho believed in the truth of the insinuations which he had thrown out against the Austrian Go vernment of entertaining the base and inhuman design of assassination, to come forward like a man and make the charge distinctly and without circum locution.—(Hear, hear.) An alcusation of such ex treme gravity ought not to bo introduced into a sort of reply made on withdrawing a motion. The Noble Lord had withdrawn the usual phrases of an old we man's tale, " it was strongly reported," and " it was seriously believed," that somebody came to the place where Kossuth was residing, and had a mysterious in terview with his cook, and, because the wine afterwards was supposed to present an unusual appearance, it was assumed that it had been tampered with.—(llear, and a laugh.) It was derogatory to the dignity of the House that such a gross charge should have been insinuated by one of its Members against an old ally of this country, and one which in past days had stood by us bravely and faithfully.—(Hear.) What! impute t ) the Emperer of Austria the intention of carrying off by poison unfortunate men whom circumstwices had com pelled to take refuge in Turkey.—(Hear.) The House must, he was sure, have listened with indignation to the base calumny directed rgainst a Government which, with all its faults—and ho ai not there to approve of all the proceedings of Austria—had always acted in au upright and open manner, and had cfcen been to this cone try a useful and fai thf ally.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He would stake his existenco as to the ground'eisness of the charge, which could only have entered into the mind of a may who, like the Noble 1. Mr. Razga, Lutheran clergyman at Presburg, hanged in June. 2. Mr. Me:•zaros, Catholic priest, shot at Raab, end of June. 3. Mr. Gonczewsky, Catholic priest, shot at Pesth, in October. 4. Mr. Rudnyanszky, Catholic Bishop of N to five years' imprisonment. 5. Mr. Bartakovics, Catholic Bishop of ' Rosenau 6. Mr. Lonovics, Archbishop of Erlau 7. Mr. Baron Berner, Bishop of Gross wardein 8. Mr. Jaros, Great Prior of Gran 9. Mr. Levay, Great Prior of Erlau 10. Mr. Pupovics, Greek Bishop of Idunkacs 11. Mr. Haubner, Lutheran Bishop, dead in prison. 12. Mr. Packh, Lutheran Uishop, hidden in the mountains, prosecuted by the Hue and Cry. 13. Mr. Michael Toth, Calvinist clergyman at Debreczin (the most eloquent preacher), sentenced to 18 years' imprisonment in heavy irons. 14. Mr. Ilorwath, Catholic Bishop of Csanad 15. Mr. Jekelfalussy, Catholic priest of Zipsen Refugees. 16. Baron Mednyarszky, Catholic canon 11. STATE. 1. Count Louis Batthyanyi, Prime Minister, tried by court martial and shot at Pesth ; his estates confiscated. 2. Baron Perenyi (upwards of 70 years of age), President of the House of Lords, and Judge of the Supreme Court, hanged at Pesth; estates confiscated. 3. Baron Jeszenak, Second Lieutenant of the county of Neutra, hanged; eslatcs confiscated. 4. Mr. Csanyi, Minister under Kossuth, hanged; estates confiscated. 5. Mr. Petocz, High Sheriff of the county of Presburg, shot at Presburg. 6. Mr. Szacsvay, Secretary of the Diet, hanged at Pesth. 7. Mr. Csernus, Counsellor of the Treasury, hanged at Pesth. E. Mr. Novak, Secretary in the Home-office, shot at Pesth. 9. Count Leopold Nadasdy, Privy Councillor, Lord Lieute nant of the county of Comorn, imprisoned for four years, sentenced to pay a fine of 14,0001. 10. Count Stephan Karolyi, inaprisoncl for four years, fined 14,000'., Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Pesth. 11. Count Raday, Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Nograd, imprisoned for two years. 12. Count George Karolyi, fined 10,1100/. for having shown great joy at the arrival of the Hussars. 13. Mr. Marczibanyi, Lord. Lieutenant of Trencsen, the first of the Commoners of Hungary, fined 2,0001. The number of the shot and imprisoned of no high station is much greater. Lord, v 0.3 ready to swallow anything against Austria. —(liear, hear, and laughta.) Ot course the Noble Lord wait not the originator of the atrocious calumny; he was mcre:y put forward by others to utter it; but the Noble Lord basing insinuated it in an assembly of gentlemen, in a hesitating manner, whildt withdrawing a motion, he (Lord C. Hamilton) felt that it would not have redounded to the credit of the House if some one had not stood up and called upon the Noble Lord either to make the ac cusation openly and explicitly, or to withdraw it wholly. —(Hear, hear.) To show the state of misty ignorance in which t so Noble Lord existed with respect to the Hungarian question, it was only eeceseary to remind the House that the Noble Lord had spoken of Hungary as having been always an independent nation and in pos session of a constitution. The Noble Lord had evident'y never heard that for more than a century Hungary wai underithe dominion of the Porte—that a Turkish Bashaw dictated laws to her from Buds, and that the house of Hapsburgh drove back the Turk, and restored her con stitution to Hungary. With respect to the murders committed at Vienna and Pesth, which the Noble Lord represented to he the unpremeditated - acts of a mob, it was well known that they were planned and determined on beforehand.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. COCKBURN said he hoped his Noblo Friend would not press his motion, but would rest satisfied with the aesutance of the Noble Lord (Palmerston), that he would produce such papers as would throw a sufficient light on the course of policy pursued in these matters. Otherwise it would seem to him that his Noble Friend would imply a doubt of the perfect propriety of the course of conduct adopted by her Majesty's Government. lie thought the explanations given by the Noble Lord tha Secretary for Foreign Affairs, on the pretest occasion, and on a former occasion, when he made a speech that gave great satisfaction in the country, should be a suffi cient guarantee that the course pursued by her Majesty's Government, and by the Noble Lord, towards Austria and Russia, in the present instance, was such as became the honour, the dignity, and the interests of this country.—(Hear, hear.) And therefore ho thought his Noble Friend ought to be satisfied with such papers as might be produced by the Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs.—(Hear.) He should not have trespassed on the House on the pre sent occasion were it not for the extraordinary speech of the Noble Lord opposite.—(Hear.) He could quite well understand that a difference of opinion might ex st as to the right and justice of the struggle iu which Austria had bt ea engaged with Hungary. But whilst he al lowed that a difference of opinion might exist on that point Wove , n Hon. Members of that House, he did not mean it to be inferred that he did not himself consider that the cause for which Hungary engaged in that frightful struggle with Austria was one of the greatest and most righteous in w hich any country could be in volved.—(Cheers.) He believed it to be a struggle for the maintenance of an ancient constitution and esta blished laws, and that it was improperly and unjustly designated by terming it a rebellion against a lawful Ste vereign.—(fleas, hear.) He was not, however, going to enter upon the discussion of that mater now. But when, af:er what hal taken place—after Austria had, by the aid of foreign bayonets and foreign hor.!e t—(Hear, hear)—succeeded in putting down the Hungarian cause —wuen they recollected what had since passed—the frightful executions and the bloody murders which en sued—(Cneers)—he was surprised to hear an English gentleman and nobleman, with a zeal worthy of a better cause, but discreditable when employed in such a cause 28 that which the Noble Lord had Just pleaded, enter upon the defence of Austria after the conduct cf which she halt been guilty before the world. — (Hear, hear.) He held in his hand a publication by Austria herself—an official document of the number of ;nsol, sentenced In prison un der trial for high treason; they are tried by court martial. 111. ARMY. 1. General Kiss, shot at Arad. 2. General Dessoffy, shot at Arad. 3. General Schweidel, shot at Arad. 4. c2 d ' 4. General TOr6k, shot at Arad. 5. General Lazar, hanged at Arad. 6. General Knezich, hanged at Aral 7. General Count Leiningen, hanged at Arad. g 8. General Count Vecsey, hanged at Arad. 9. General Nagy Saudor, hanged at Arad.. C.) '0 10. General Aulich, hanged at Arad. 11. General Lauer, hanged at Arad. rn 12. General Poltenberg, hanged at Aral. E-4 13. General Damianich, hanged at Arad. 14. Colonel Kazinczy, shot at Arad. 15. Colonel Prince Woroniecky, hanged at Pesth. 16. Colonel Orrnav hanged at Pesth., 17. Colonel Soll, shot at Pesth. 48. Colonel Baron Mednyansky, hanged at Presburg. 19. Colonel Gruber, hanged at Presburg. 20. Major Abancourt, hanged at Presburg. 21. Major Giron, hanged at Presburg. 22. Major Fekete, hanged at Pesth. 23. Major Murmann, shot at Temesvar. 24. Major Lepier, shot at Panceova. 25. General Moga 26. General Count Lazar, Imprisoned from five to eight 27. General Gaspar, years. 28. Lieutenant Field-Marshal Hrabowszky, under trial. " Seine fifty colonels sentenced to eighteen years' imprison ment in heavy irons; some thirty lieutenant-colonels and majors to sixteen years in heavy irons. All the officers of the Hungarian army who had not served before in the Austrian army were sent to the army as private soldiers, whs can be flogged by the simple order of their officer. This is the case with Count Stephan Esterhazy ; Baron Frederic Podmaniczzky ; Count Gustav Batthyanyi, the son of the Count, well known in England; of Baron Liptay, of Mr. Paul Csuzy, and a hundred others. " Many more than the above mentioned were shot, but the sentence has not been always (officially) published. The sen tences of the above were published officially. In the pre sence of the Emperor Francis Joseph, at Raab, two men were shot, a student and a Jew, for sympathising with the Hun garians. His Majesty did nothing to stop these cruelties." In a Idition to these individuals two women of rank, the daughter of the Bishop llaubner, of Raab, and Mrs. Ma derspach, at Ruskberg, were sentenced to be flogged. And not only was sentence passed, but it was actually carried into execution.—(Hear, hear.) And in the face of all this were they to hear it said that the Noble Lord was to blame when he asked for some security that prc tection would be given to the unfortunate refugees that their lives should not bs practised upon, if not by the Austrian Government, and at their instigation, at least by Austrian subjects, who perhaps knew what would be most agreeable to their Government?—(Hear, hear.) His Noble Friend merely stated a fact, namely, that the Turkish Government had given notice to Kos suth that persons armed with Austrian pass ports, and whom the Turkish Government was therefore impotent to remove, came to Turkey for the purpose of practising on Kossuth's life. That view was corroborated by subsequent facts, and the Noble Lord was perfectly justified in stating the matt r to the House, and in asking the Noble Lord the Secre tary for Foreign Affairs for an assurance that this country would at all events take all the precautions in its power to prot ct these unfortunate refugees against being de livered up to the mercy of persons who, if not actually employed by the Government and Ministry of Austria or Russia, well know how they could best conciliate those Governmentr.—([tear, hear.) lleiug in possession of the greatest of all blessings, constitutional freedom IL elf, this country felt, and the Noble Lord (Palmerston) felt for there who were struggling for constitutional liberty. But whilst this country was prepared t gise a moral support to those vvho were engaged in such a noble and holy strugglr, he admitt d they were not in a condition to go to war or to interfere by force of arms in their behalf. It would, however, offer them the shield and protection of public opinion in England whilst en gaged in a contest for those liberties which, happily for them, their f ,refathers had gained, and which he trusted their descendants would ever maintain.—(Cheers.) Mr. DISRAELI said, that although the House must doubtless be desirous that this unnecessary debate should be brought to a close, the tone taken by the Ilon. and Learned Member who Lad just spoken made it necessary for him (Mr. Disraeli) to say a word in vindication of what he conceived to be the proper course taken by his Noble Friend (Lord C. Hamilton) near him.—(Hear, hear.) Before proceeding further, however, ho must congratulate the lion. end Learned Member and his friends on the sympathy they felt with precedents of the House of Lord-, with the Church in genera', and with bishops in particular.—(Hear, hear.) Such indications of right feeling could not fail to be very satisfactory to the Conservative party.—(A laugh.) Tho lion. and Learned Member had r, al to the House a list of some of the victims t,f the unhappy and unfortunate civil war which had t _then place in Hungary. All must deeply de plore such events, but it was impossible for them, sitting in that House, to form any political opinion on the cir cumstances. There was nothing in the facts stated to show whether the victims were victims tJ their own in- judicious and evil coursep, or heroes and martyrs. Open the " History of England," and you would find a list of confi..caticns and executions which had taken place ever since the present Royal Family, to which we were so much indeht3d for liberty and progress, acce led to the throne.--(llcar, hear.) Would it be fair to refer to the execution of the unfortunate Earl of Derwent water, and the confiscation of his estates, and also the executionof the accomplished Balmerino, and say, " Look at the horrors committed by this dynasty, which could only substantiate its position by such atrocities?"— (Hear, hear.) The list of executions read by the lion. and Learned Member, even if it were authentic, was no thing more therefore than might be found in our own history, at no very distant ca e. But it a as unnecessary to go back to 1740. The echoes of the speech of the Hon. Member for Inverness-shire in the debate of yester day were yet ringing in the IRuse.—(licar.) In Ceylon the executions ordered by courts-martial had, it aY peered, been carried into effect with such a want of dis crimination, that the judges themselves acknowledged that in many instances the victims were not criminals. Might it not be said " What can you think of a Govern ment which sanctions such proceedings, and what of the state of society which tolerates such a Govern ment?" In his opinion his Noble Friend was perfectly justified in expressing his indignation at the speech of the Noble Member fir Marj lebone.—(Rear, hear.) If the Noble Lord felt a conviction that the charge he had made against the Austrian Government was founded on fact, he ought to have given it a much more pro mireat place in the discussion.—(llear.) As it Wag, the Noble Lord introduced into the epilogue of the enter tainment of the evening an insinuation that an old ally of her Majesty meditate I murder and assassination. Now, that was a; unwarrantable a proceeding as ever i took place in that House.—(hear, hear.) If the Noble Lord telieved that the Austrian Government meditated the the assassination of unarmed individuals, who were w e e ; the a certain extent placed under the British Government, he ought to belief in his opening speech. Fur 5 have declared protection e v e s r r e a d e !s ) sympathised with the part, indig t h a e ti p o e n r w fe h et ie ly h u h n is de N rs o n b )o l d Friend had expressed re spectingiebune._ (titacr,ondhuetatroof the N oble toth eM generalem r fof p lr e l s a ti r o y i; beforetheHfind so House, nothing a fe gacouelin could be mote gratifying in favour av to r him than to of the integrity of tae Turkish empire. He had always maintained that the integrity of that empire was essential to the peace and permanent prosperity of the civilized world; but whilst advocating that view it had teen his fortune to find himself in a minotity. It was now 25 sears since the Liberal party, in total ignorance of what he would not call that fallen, but that feeble, power —in total ignorance of its political and social condition —in total ignorance of its resources, ef its laws, and of its constitution—in total ignorance of the genius of its people and of the necessity of its existence t) the stabi . I lity of sea es, commeaced a course of hostility towards . , r it; and it was only lately they had discovered that they'" were in error in exciting the passions of Europe against' • -, • a generous people.—(hear.) It was the- Liberal part which had lashed up the sympathies ( f - Christendom 'till-10i ) their policy ended in the eatastropbe - a4" - Na - varin . l (Hear, hear.) And haling done rslirttishigthoVe?/ had taken the opportunity of' making a n'araii9n o' ' i ' - city there could bo no division—to do what?' s. ~• • - the sympathy of England with a great country 7. , hat which the ignorance and prejudice cf England, occasioned and stimulated by themselves, had caused. The state of Turkey —he would not 'say the fallen state of Turkey, because h e t e li eve d the resources of Turkey were very considerable, and under the Government which it had latterly experienced were better developed than they had ever been—hut he should say the critcal state of Turkey h e e Noble a r L d o t r e d d t e h n e e e n Member filo ambition b M i ti a e r n y l e e r b o e n n e . , was caused by th e i ntr i gues of the Liberal partyof Eng lwahnod. ca l m ' lighten the House on the manoeuvres of Russia, repre sented the very party which fur years had played into the hands of that power, however unconsciously, if it was unconsciously, and which had crested in this coun try a most inveterate prejudice against the conduct and character of the Turkish Government. It was a matter of satisfaction that the present result had been attained— that the eyes of the Noble Lord and his friends had been opened to the errors of the course they had so long pur sued. These barren motions, brought forward generally in a scanty House, might really servo as recantations by the Liberal party of their diplomatic ignorance; and he congratulated the Noble Lard the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, who on this subject had had a very hard time of it, on the debate of to-night—in particular when a Member of that House, who on entering it had sig.. naliz:d himself by the impeachment of the Noble Lord, was now found prepared to do justice to that Noble Lord for the admirable readiness with which he had come forward to vindicate the interests of the Turkish empire. He (Mr. Disraeli) had net considered the Noble Lord a traitor, or given him credit for those con summate abilities which some who had before denounced him were ready to attribute to the Noble Lord. But the Noble Lord, he had always thought, might, gene rally speaking, have managed affairs pretty well, had it not beea for the Liberal party in this House who first hallocel the country on against Turkey, and when they had done almost incalculable mischief turned round and declared that the existence of Turkey was essential to the best interests of Europe. As regarded foreign affairs, he recognised in that party the peculiar charac teristic which the Noble Lord the First Minister had described as the characteristic of their policy in domestic affairs when he spoke of it as the policy of very con tracted minds. They had imperfect knowledge. Un fortunately they possessed some power, which they used for dangerous purposes; and for the last six or seven years they had taken every opportunity of coming for ward to uphold the interests and vindicate the cause of a power, namely, Turkey, the critical state of which was entirely attributable to the excited passions of Europe, which they bad raised against the interests of that country, and to their total ignorance how important the existence and maintenance of the Ottoman empire was to Europe. Sir D. L. EVANS was confident that the emancipa tion of the Greek people was an event which neither the majority of that House, nor the majority of the nation, would look back to with regret.—(Hear, hear.) His Noble Friend had been accused of historical ignorance; but when the assertion of his Noble Friend, that Hun eery had an ancient constitution, was contradicted, he ventured to say without making any preten sions to historical knowledge. that the assertion im plied no ignorance whatsoever. The constitution of Hungary was an old one. [Lord C. HAMILTON—" I never said the coutrary.'] That Has one of the points on which ignorance was imputed. The Noble Lord alluded also to the misfortunes of the Hungarians in the wars with Turkey. But he forgot that the Hungarians con ferred benefits on Austria similar to those which he said Austria had conferred en Hungary. He forgot to tell the House that John Subieski was the man who se lieved Vienna, and saved Austria. Was it, or was it not, that Hungary had possessed one of the most ancieet constitutions in, Europe? [Lord C. I V —AMILTON—" Cer tainly."] With re!creece to the execution of Hun garians by the Austrian Government, the. Hon. Member for Buckinghamshire spoke of the uncertainty of infor mation on such matter?, and thence concluded that they ought not to indulge iu strictures on the Austrian Go vernment. He alluded to what Lad occurred in Ceylon and the lonian Is'ands ; but, if severities had been in flieted in these two dependencies of this country, was there any reason to Lelicve that they would be vindicated by a majority of that House?—(Hear, hear.) That one of the most bloody and horrible lists of punishments ever put on record should be treated co lightly as it bad been attempted to be treated by the Hon. Gentleman was a matter of extreme astonish ment. The Government of Austria stood distinguished • from the ethers as being the only Government in Eu rope which had bombarded every great city in ;its do minions. He was glad to find P'at Hon. Gentlemen had not uttered a single word in disapproval of the con duct of her Majesty's Government on the subject of de • bete—(Hear)—and ho hoped it would go forth to the country and to Europe that this House unanimously ap proved of the judicious and discreet course which her Majesty's Government had pursued.—(He ar.) Lord C. HAMILTON had never said the Hungarian constitution was net an old one. It tock date seven years after Magna Charts was granted, namely, in the )ear 1222. He heard the Noble Lord (Lord D. Stuart) say the Hungarians were always independent, and al ways enjoyed that constitution. The ignorance charged against the Noble Lord was that he did not seem to bo aware that at the first battle of Mohatz the Turks appended Hungary to their empire, that for a century and a half a Turkish Pacha dictated laws from Buds, and that the ancient constitution was restored to Hungary by the house of Hapsburgh. Sir B. 11. INGLIS observed, that whatever support the Hungarians might have given to the house of Haps burgh, John Sobieski at least was not a Hungarian.— (Hear, hear.) He rose merely to make the remark, lest it should go forth that these statements of the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman (Sir De Lacy Evans) had, by pass ing uncontradicted, received the unanimous assent of the House of Commons. Sir D. L. EVANS bad said nothing with respect to the nativity of John Sobieski, but he believed that Hun garian troops were chiefly instrumentality on that occa sion in rescuing Vienna.—(Hear.) Mr. M. MILNES was surprised that the Honourable Member for Buckinghamshire, skilled as he was in his torical facts, should have recalled the great events of 1745, when the royal rase, the Constitution, and the Church were threatened, without stating that only three noblemen were put to death, and certainly not more than 25 persons were executed. That took place 100 years ego, and if Austria were content to go back to that period, they must be permitted to regard her as 100 years behind the age.—(Hear.) When the present sub , hest came before the Assemby of a neighbouring power, who: e the majority was conservative, no single voice was raised to vindicate or palliate the proceedings of the Austrian Government.—(Hear, hear.) He could not avoid animadverting on the imprudence of the vio lence sheen by that Government, as regarded the well being of the Austrian empire. Was the state of Austria and Hungary one that could be viewed with satisfaction? It was the interest cf this country that Austria should exist as a compact empire. They must, therefore, re gard the events of the last few years with dismay, and desire to implore the Administration of Austria to re trace its steps and adopt measuses which should have the effect of obliterating in some degree the feelings of bit terness which had arisen among different portions of the empire. Mr. GRATTAN rose to addtice another instance of punishment inflicted under the authority of the Aus trian Government in order to allow the Noble Lord the Member for Tyrone (Lord C. Hamilton) another opportunity of displaying his generous humanity and fine national fz , eling. The case was described in a paper which was from authority—not from a bishop or a president, but—a lady.—(Laughter, and a cry of " Question I") Question? It was the question.—(Heir, he ar.) He s hout like to see the Member who called "Question!!"—(A laugh.) The document was what he had a right to read. It was a letter from an Hungarian Countess, and said—" In our immediate neighbourhood an army of Hungarians, amounting to 10,000 men, with 40 cannons, surrendered at discretion. Two days after wards some Imperial troops, a detachment of Liechten stein's Light Hor.e, commanded by a captain, a native of this town, entered Ruskley. I was:torn from the arms of my husband and children, from the hallowed sanc tuary of Lome, and hurried before no judge—but 1, a woman, a wife, a mother, in my own native town, before the people, who were accu.timed to trr at we with re spect, was dragged into a square of soldiers, and there unfeelingtheth being e cheek nD emperorst obuhiyko eut bihif bt Noble:vnwgehiworthyG 1 oi ne Lord.ogsrato gnnecy; of I was scourged with rods." Was there any one in that House who could list 3n :o the I. a7rative of such an out rage without indigraqon? Had the Noble Lord com mon faelings of humanity, that he could rise in that House and desecrate its sanctuary by parasitical adu!a tion of women-floggers? She proceeded,—" I can write this without dropping my head for shame. But my hut. : band killed himself. f1..1 drew a pistol and shot himself.' That letter was signed by the Countess de Matters -1 frach. There was a time when, in such a a cause, " a thousand swords," to use the language of Burke, " would have leaped from their scabtards in her k de fence."d If the Marchioness of Abercorn w a 'e t retaen would and flogged before the Grenadier Guard ,, , what la Noble Duchess o o Lord dp and think? ons h d: w walkbe sayg l V h oni if w tt i hh t h ee end slo o i f t upon 6tehbe tsi el n b s y2ott session, ?: in womenlshe y a laugh on his face could hope . to through the streets of Lon? _ ... i r ( e C O i c e er what e r a t a a n k d e would laughter) a call ingandstreets ucph i a o l df blushr L e n o London fordiof ns hishw before em t bf h oae o rs without tot lle had seen another . lady, the Countess Wolkouski, whose husta - al wan a iru nd of the to procure the praise r e o : a . 9 g a l l i se h u a ed s t 1 :. y e n s e e f e tt t l e s ict l n ah u b t he s cm!: atrocities selling s Qr s t s P e d c n m ' c .l assembly. I t T h t h w h r ae a ty s wb diamonds t ee h gr e ae e i r o e _ fit t h e they went on to murd er i ng B att b vany, and he should kt.d li t7r t a h n el st ii — e ( a A gl l s aug ' not t o surprised if t h ey ended by poisoning Kossuth. Those ambhleadlaspeofunthceodseodnOuh!a neo Hun gary to destroy iti independence. Thank God he had lived to utter his execration of those tyr an t s ! He never could think them anything but murderers with diadems on their heads; and if they poisoned this atmosphere with their pesti!ential principles and presence, he trusted tbre was spii it enoug h in the British lion to humb'e them and repel them from these shores.— (Cheerr.) REPRESENTATION OF KENSINGTON. Mr. MACGREGOR having risen for the purpose of bringing forward his motion for erecting Kensington, Chelsea, Fulham, and Hammersmithinto a 1 'arliamen tary borough, Major BERESFORD presented a petition from Sud bury, praying for the restoration o f the franchise to that borough. Mr. MACGREGOR hoped the House would have the same patience with him which they had had with the