The Sun. — London, England, 1850-06-22 00:00:00

- = ..d separate system for the Catholic Church in Ireland, and endowing it with a separate fund. Where were the funds to come from ? tie was convinced that, besides being more costly from the maintenance of separate esta blishments, the Protestants of Ireland would not ap prove of such a system. It was unfair and unjust for Hon. Gentlemen concurring in the object of the present motion, to tax Protestant clergymen in Ireland who were of a different opinion, with acting in opposition to their ordination vows, and with supporting a system which they well knew to be anti-scriptural. He believed that the motion would destroy the present system of na tional education in Ireland, and, considering how much good that system had done and was doing, he hoped the House would not consent to supersede it by another which was sure to prove expensive and unpopular.— (Bear, hear.) Me. • NEW DEGATE, • in expressing his intention to support the motion .of the Hon. Member for the University of Dublin, said he did.so not from any inten tion of diminishing the privileges and advantages of parties who dissented from the Church Esta blishment, but from the belief 'Which he had that it was quite possible for the House so to modify the.existing system, as to do damage to none, and pro bably advantage to all. The modification which they sought to introduce would not supersede the existing system; and further than. this, ie would be ,a con cession to the religious views of parties. He would call upon the Government to regard these conscientious convictions: not to do so was an net of tyranny. The Noble Lord regarded this principle so far that he would release a few from a durability, although there were but forty thousand of the community in the country. Ile ought then to consider the religions scruples of the Church of Ireland. Was it to be argued because the Church of Ireland had property that they should be ex cluded from these grants. Was not the Church of Eng land richer, and it participated in these grants? Could it be:pretended that the Roman Catholics in this country could complain of. poverty? Ho saW'churches, convents, and monasteries springing up on all sides. He did not know whence the funds came, but he did not think they were English. In Ireland -there were 2,400 schools in connexion with the Roman Catholics, and but 95 under the control of the Church of Ireland. The Bible could not be suspended. , Mr. E. H. STANLEY, after stating the difficulty which he felt in replying to the speech of the Honour able Member for the University of Dublin, said that he recollected that the principle -on which the revolution was effected in Dublin was that of entire toleration. He hoped the Hon. Member would extend to him the benefit of that principle, and would tolerate the conscientious difference of opinion which he entertained on this occa sion. He had been a little surprised to hear something which was urged by the Hon. Gentleman. It was urged by the lion. Member for the University of Dublin that the whole system of national education, as established in 1831, aas irreligious and unscriptural. The Hon. Mem ber for Warwickshire made a charge that they had, in many instances, departed from the objectionable system; Again, he had heard it stated—ia fact, it seemed. to he ttesumed as a point on which no dispute or difference of opinion could .exist—that the Bible was excluded from the natioaal Schools. He entertained serious doubts-as to the accuracy of that statement.. He found that the only sense in which, it could be said that the Bible was excluded was this—that when the Bible was read iu the school Roman Catholic children had the option of leaving the school. He did not see how theprinciple would be strengthened by any regulation which would make it compulsory on , Roman Catholics to make it a rule to attend to reading the Bible. It was a matter of some importance to con sider two points; they ought to consider what was the system superseded by -the new ones, and, if they abolished the present system. what they were prepared to substitute. He would endeavour to show the inten tion with which the national schools were established. He found it was stated by the Secretary for Ireland in 1831, referring to several previous Commissions, which had issued on the subject of education, that the opinion expressed by the Commission of, 1812 was, that no, plan of- education for Ireland, however wisely contrived in, other respects, could be carried into operation if attempts were made to disturb peculiar religious opinions. There was a general concurrence of the Committees from 1812 down to the establishment of the national schools, that no system founded on proselytism could succeed in Ireland. The Society for National Education in Ireland in 1786' was instituted in Ireland to . give instruction - on liberal principles. The society was inadequate .to the wants of the people. In 1811 a similar society wasp set on foot on a larger scale. The principles of the Kildare-street Society, as he understood them, were briefly these.• Tao first principle was that which his Hoe. Friend in 1850 despaired or, viz., that of a united education. Another principle was that the Scriptures should be read, but read without note or com n:ent. The permission or injunction left absolutely un settled the whole of the difficulty of the question, for it was left out of the question how much should be read, when it should be read, or by whom. The Kildare street Society fell almost into the hands of the Protest ants. 'rho reading of the Scriptures at all hours, and all places, was very general. Aeainst such a system the Roman Cath o li c pop u l a ti on protested. It was de clared by them, that they did not intend to go upon any proselytising principles ;• but some years alter their in- , stitution they united their effert4 with those of another society for the diffusion of religious instruction Called the London Bible Society, who pretended to be what the Kildare-street Society pretended not to be—proselytisers. It very much altered the case when in 1812 the Govern taunt took the Society iu baud, and when they found that it had not the least confidence of the Roman Catholic population. BeSire the present system of national education was established, a full and searchine inquiry was made into the state of Ireland generally: In the Committee of 1830, 11r. Musgrove was asked whether the success of any s3berne would depend entirely OTt.the , exclusion of sectarian or religious controversy ? Be said he bad established two school., nud-ha.i told the people that if they wished to read the Scriptures they could do so, hut ho would nut insist upon it. He thought . it , likely that under that system the number of scriptural readers would ultimately be increased, but not in else first instance. Captain Rolt_Ovvert gave exactly similaraesti . mossy. Mr. Barrios stated that this condition of oblige-, tory Scriptare reading led to difficulties. It had trot a tendeucy to increase Scripture 'reading, quite the con trary; there never wee a more effectual way of discou-. raging the reading of the Scriptures. Again, Mr. Denier said that he had lonc been of ()pinkie that compulsory: reading was not likely to attain the object - for which it. was intended. Hero wera three successive testimonies ex actly to the same effect, but there was another testimony which was invaluable, that of R. R. Doyle, Roman Ca tholic Prelate, who said that the societies in Dublin which had been founded to promote education were attended by none of the Roman Catholics. They had been the sources of numerous complaints between its . feriors and superiors. Altegether they have been pro ductive of much evil and dieeord, and he thought it de.- sirabie that they should be put an end to. There was not one particle of evidence on the other side ; but the testimony entirely confirmed the - Opinion which he had formed, that. various jealousies were produced by the Kildare school. This was a pritid facie ground for saying that_ the system ought to be- altered. In the very last report as to the Kildare-street schools, he fond it stated that 240 of these, schools were in Mun ster, 112 in Connaught, 247 in Leinster, and 2,112 in Protestant Ulster. In the report-on this subject which was made two years ago, he found, that Oct of the whole number who attended these schools, more than halt' were<Roman Catholics. Considering, then, what was the whole population . of Ireland, was it not manifest than schools attended in equal numbers by Roman Cat&slics and Protestants, must be schools which did not give equal benefits .to the whole' population? He hadinat heard from any Honourable Gentleman who had spoken one single proposal to substitute anything else. .He would not enter into a defence of the existing system of schools; he would say they had Worked incomparably better than any system which had Preceded theta in Ireland. What. were the means of , *education which it was possible to adopt'? It was cer tainly possible to give secular education. It was equally possible to establish schools for the exclusive benefit of e* . the Protesta n t s . Th at , h e appre h en d ed, was not d es i re d . , . .a l ternativ e gentl eman i n th e H oase. . Wh at, t h en , was t h e nlwati:re ? O n ly one . Th ey h a d i t i n t h e i r power to follow , t he system that, under diff eren t c i rc umstanc e s, bad, to a certain extent, been carried on in England, and • establish separale schools for Roman Catholic and Pro testent education. li e cation to be a very t ought the system o f un it e d' edu important one. B u t h e h a d another an objection, and that I,, i i nsgert i a:at one. He said that in the part of Ireland ac quainted—that in two-thirds iv of c -Ireland, olharnenadt nh,himself throughout was the wide-spread country in which th e popu• lation had a predominant 3n sole effect of establishing separate schools for Protestants and Roman Catholics would be toeleprive the Protestant population of the benefit of education aealla In the nei g hbourhood r with which he was acqua inted ; T ipperary, t he - y, the Roman Catholic population was in the proportion of 200 to 1. a le they were to establish separate schools they victim not be able to get a sufficient number. of Protestant children. In order to establish a school<for .200 they would have to bring them a distance of twenty miles. Therefor e , h e said, the only system which ,he had yet heard any pro penal to substitute for that which now existed was ins. , practicable and -undesirable, audTeeling that be should vote against the motien. • - Lord. JOHN MANNERS said that in the few ob servations which he should offer to the House he should *Wain. from saying one word as to the merits of the respective systems of education that had prevailewa n i Ireland. Th e ques tion b e for e the Bouse.was, what . the best prectical educational system? That was in some degree a Church question. The difference between the educational systems of England and Ireland was extremely perplexing. He entertained great 'doubts whethe r the system in I re l an d w a s a combined system of education; llu thought that whee they talked of the combined system they talked of a system which virtually did not ,exist. Ip the tows of Armagh there were two schoele. • The Oneentirely was devoted to Roman Catholic ct hil I .ren, anti t h e ot h er to the children of. Pro: testaiite• tiff., man could be compelled to do that to which .his confcieece , objected. Oise man says that the Shute can provide a ey stein to educate all the children iu the country; end another man doubts that. One mast epee voting reouey for. educational pus - Pines its Ire.lantl, paid Vera . Government was bound to utsregard the of and " ^ thev sd'aid th" To" rye. .41 ' ; a Mem th b e er p o e f ol t )l h e e uninel Churcl, of Eoglautl and Ireland, he could not be. l a . li a di e tT ". r . e nt te , the feelings of the Church of I re l an d . an d U /4 e vent table primate of that Church, an d 1,700 of the c l ergy petition end , laity expressed their sen ti ments i n a to thus douse, 11 , 1 hoped that' they would not be disregarded. hey tasked for equal justice and facilities for their own children, and, con curring in 'stews he wc old give his hearty support to the motion. • ' - Mr. FIAGAN said that - s tech a change as that de sired in the system of edoca don in Ireland would be extremely darkg9roYs. I q Ibis gountry each association recelving - money-grants from Government, confined themselves to educating their own children, but that was not the case with the Church Education Society in Ireland. The Kildare-street Society was abolished for refusing to carry out a sy stem of education, unless under certain restrictions. The same exclusive prin ciples actuated the Church Education Society in Ire land, . s s e the motion. a n oi d i , o n a . n d up Thereon that we g re rou v n a d rinus alone hoethewroulrdeliogiloPuo so cieties, who were pledged not to carry out. education, except under their own peculiar tenets. If ,they granted the aid required to the Church, then every other religi ous society would be entitled to demand it.—(Hear, hear.) The national system was a most admirable system, considering that it was founded upon the old system. He consider ed that religious instruction was abundantly accorded by all religious denominations to their children in Ireland. The Roman-Catholics held that the Scriptures should not be put into the hands of children of tender years as a schoolebook. There were now 800 schools in Ireland where the Bible alone was taught, and 800 . others in which Bible and Scripture lessons were both taught. That made 1,600 out of 4,400 were.the Scriptures were taught. Therefore the Hon. Member was not justified in stating that the Scripture was not taught in the schohls in 'lreland. It was a mistake to say that the Catholic clergy were opposed to the high scientific and literary instruction imparted by 1 the national system. For these reasons he must oppose the motion. Sir HARRY! VERNEY said that the national edu cation which had been lately introduced into Ireland wa', so far as he could learn, attended with no benefiCial re sult. He contended that the Hibernian Society schools were of the greatest benefit to Ireland, and that the pre sent system was fur inferior to that which preceded it. Again, he would refer to the Kildare-street Socie . y, and he was prepared to prove that never wa; any system of education so , beneficial or so much admired by the Ro man Catholic parents of the children attending those schools. Ho then referred to the thousands of Roma, Catholic children who attended those schools, and who were known to have been educated, not only in the ge neral sptem of temporal interests, but their motel edu cation was fully approved of by the gentry in their re. spective neighbourhoods. lie would ask the Irish Mem bers and the Government whether there was any tate giance_on a late occasion evinced by those Who had been educated at the national schools which were in existence for the last' eighteen years without producing any fruit or benefit whatever? Mr. HEALD said that he felt it his conscientious duty to support the motion' - of th'e lion. Member (Mr. G. A. Hamilton), for he considered that the money to be afforded to the national system of education was not distributed to all parties in Ireland, no matteewhartheir religious opinions might be. He should say that the objection .raised by the Hon. Member for Cork (Mr. Fagan) could have no weight on the House, fur it is the peculiar characteristic of Christians that the members of every religious persuasion should exert themselves to gain to their creed every one whom they considered was in error, and he was glad to say that the Noble Earl (Earl of Arundel and Surrey) very justly advccated the same principle on a very late ; occasion. _ Ile was asto nished that any member in that House should deny that the. Established Church in Ireland was not an integral part of the Church of this country, for, he would ask, was not the doctrine of the one Church the same as that of the othen ee (Hear, hear)—and were not the interests of both churches, the English and Irish, identifiel? This, he contended, served as a proof that they were one and. the same in. interests and benefits, and that on these grounds he should support the motion. Lord J. RUSSELL-Sir, the subject now before us is sufficiently important and difficult to induce us not to mix with it any question with regard to the Church Establishment in this country or in Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) The question now before us concerns a system of education which is aided and supported by grants voted in this House. and collected from the taxes paid generally by the people of the United Kingdom, and is, therefore, •a question totally apart from any question that may be stated or debated with respect to the Church -Establishment in Ireland.—(llear, hear.) , With respect to this question then, I should say, in the first place, that in disposing of - these grants, as a matter of justice we ought to make the benefits of the education which we give as extensive as possible.—(Hear, hear.) We ought to 'diffuse as widely as - possible among the - chil dren the benefits of the education that we propose to aid, and it would not be - a fair and just application of the money thus derived from the taxes if upon any nar 'row and" exclusive principle we were to distribute these grants. Bat, in the next pacer, as a matter of policy and expediency, I should say, if you wish your grants to be useful—if you wish to diffuse the bene fits of instruction upon secular subjects, in morality, and in religion, amongst the people of - Ireland, that it should be your object to have such a' system as would not pro voke opposition and jealousy in the' very outset and cothmencement, and that yOu should endeavour to avoid all those rules and regulations which may induce the suspicion that you are attempting to convert that which is:the largest, the most numerous, and the poorest sec tion of the people of Ireland to the religion of that-other section which has in its hands the greatest proportion of the power of the 'state in this country, which is the richest in Ireland, and which,' by endowments and other wise, is moat likely to use its power fur tho purposes of proselytisin.—(tlenr, hear.) Both on the ground of justice and policy, 'therefore, if you mean to be just and fair towards the people of Ireland--if you mean to dilTuse education as widely as possible—it is your bounden duty to avoid giving your grants in such a manner as may in duce the belief that y,,u mean, in proposing, to promote education, to convert the children of goman 'Catholic parents to the religfoo o late Protestants. Tho• Hon. Gentleman who has just addresied the Housre inde , d, speaking of the earneetnesewith which religion should be inculcated, says that he has no ohjection to proselytism. Ho avows that proselytism would be a part - of his object; but if that were the case, his very ob ject,. I submit to him, would be detested, because immediately that you declare ti-the Roman Catholic clergy and laity of Ireland that your purpose is not to give them a good education,- but that your purpose is proselytism, they are themselves against that purpose, and your grant becomes a grant given only to a small portion of the people, for those who•dread that prosely tiser], or who consider it a fiend upon them to attempt it under the guise of school learning, will indignantly re. ject it.—(Hear.) Now, if - these etc right principles, then we come to that which I shall certainly not venture to attempt to explain to the House alter the able state-. merit which we have heard • from the Hon. Gentleman ( sir. Stanley), who has not only shown great ability in dtfince 'of this cause, but in addition to that great ability has an hereditary right to defend the, cause of education. —(Hear, hear.) In adverting to the speech of the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last, I must refer to the vary clic ferent conclusion which was arrived at by the CoMinis sinners of education—l believe a Commission originally Leeun by one to whom I am nearly related, the Diike of Bedford, when Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, and after wards continued. [The Noble Lord then read an extract from the report of that Commission, to the effect that they indulged more confident anticipations of success if all interference with the particular religious tenets of those who were to receive instruction in the national 1 ai m ed thisan to ho schools were , i n th e fi rs t i nstance , unequ i voca lly disclaimed and effectually importanceded again g to t; that a n y theynetv conceived i establishment for the education :of the lower daises in Ireland; and they expressed their unanimous opinion that no such plan, however wisely and unexceptionably contrived in other respect., could be carried into effec tual execution in that country unless it were explicitly avowed and clearly understood 'as its leading principle that no attempt should be made to influence or disturb the peculiar religious tenets of any sect or description Of persons.] ' This was the conclusion arrived at by men who were distinguished ornaments of the united Churches of England and Ireland, and who had, in addition to their attachment to the principles of their Church,' a knowledge of the condition of the people of Ireland, with whom in they had to deal, and knew what would be a co- . plete and effectual bar to the success of any plan that might be proposed. Now, considering the whole his tory of past events,' and the history also of voluntary societies, it is no wonder that the Catholic clergy and laity should be peculiarly jealous—that they- should be. peculiarly sensitive in regard to any plan of national education for that country. And when they heard that the Bible, according to the authorised version of the Pro testants, was to be resd in these schools, that they shotild regard it with suspicion, as an attempt to seduce them from the religion of their fathers, and induce them to adopt the Protestant religion, was, I must say, natural and almost inevitable.---(Hear, hear.). With this view, then, Lord Stanley, in founding the present eductional system in 'lreland, declared that all suspicion of proselytism Must be carefully guarded against. Well, these schools were thus established, sad aided by grants made by this Weise, and what has been their progress? From 107,000 Children taught in these schools in the year 1833, they have advanced to 480,000 children in 1849.-- e (flear, hear.) They have established admirable normal and model schools' in Dublin and elsewhere, and agricultural schools in various parts of the country, thus aiding and assisting not only in the promotion of religious learn ing, but likewise in the knowledge of those arts which are most likely to adv a nc e the p eo pl e o f I re l a nd in in dustry 7 and civilization.—(Hear, h ea r.) They have, retort+, after seventeen years' experience strong &mind for asking the support of this House. They come before you with a strongtheir case for the further support and con think, entitled to th system. They come before you, I 'overwhelming case f t:, that unless there bo made oat an 'should say, " We havreinbterfering with that system, you which the various sects or n long- in search of a plan by bined education in Ireland. .h ‘ r v istians would receive cony have at length arrived at ,a system which . in the coursee 'Come to this point, that halt' a , of seventeen years has, maintained in those schools and rece iv w e n cd of children are them. We will not intemperately or hu ‘ ti l l icatbin within discard such system, but allow it to go on, and see if it a . will not bear fruits-which will be highly advantageous to the people of Ireland."-;-(Elear.) The Zion. Gentleman who ro -poses to' enterfere with this system does se, lien; upon the ,ground which has always appeared to rue to be a ... ground ' which, t h ou gh plausible,- is entirely. unteastbie, namely—the - conscientious .scruples of the Protestant' clergy and laity. Now, I could understand very well that the parents, whether' Protestant or Catholic; niny sly, " Here is a system of education which interferes with thy religious belief, and does not allow my child to receive that education which I conceive to be necessary\ and you should not'by public grants force one t s support this, aysteue" But the objection m . ade by the' lion. Gentleman (Mr. Heald)is.entirely of a different nature:. It is not that children, being Protestants, are obliged to receive an education which is not Protestant, bat that children of a different faith are not compellei to receive an education which is sufficient for Protestant children.—. ("No, no," from the Conservative bencher.) That cer tainly was what I understood by the proposition made in former years, and by the proposition made this year. Upon the-testimony of persons of great authority, that is, in fact, the principal objection which has been taken It was the Bishop of Cashel, I think, who at a Meeting in Dublin, declared that a Protestant child might receive in the national schools a good Protestant educa tion; but what he objected to was, that the Bible was not admitted as a school-book in the schools in which Roman Catholic children were taught.—(Hear, hear.) I hold in my hand a pamphlet written by Mr. Sadler, a clergyman, in which he gives _an account of his own school, and who, on being asked if he would become the patron of a national school, said he agreed . to it, and then be describes what is done in that school in the way of religious education. (The Noble Lord here read an extract from the pamphlet, which stated that the children in the school were daily taught to read portions of Scripture which contained the essential doc trines of the Gospel, and that when the school hours terminated they retired to separate rooms for the pur pose of receiving the religious instruction approved _of by their parents.) After this, I think no person is en titled to say that the Protestant child is obliged to re ceive a religious education which is at variance with the conscience of his parents. There are some of these schools from which peculiar religious instruction is ex cluded, but this, I believe, has been done at the request ' of the more zsalous Protestants, who would not agree that Roman Catholio instruction should he given in an establishment for the maintenance of which public money has been granted. But, gene rally speaking, the rules whittle: are contained in the last report of the Commissioners are that the.pecaliar re ligions instruction may be given at a certain interval alter the school hours, upon ,condition only that the Bible in the Protestant version shall not be read as is school-book.during school hours.—(Hear, beer.) If this be se, then it is perfectly plain that to the first proposal of the Hon. Gentleman the modification that he asks is not a modification that the religious education of Pro testants may be better provided-for, but a modification which will be contrary tee the. wishes, and, which will arouse the suspicions of the Roman Catholics by declar ing that the Bible shall be read in the schools, not only for the sake of the Protestant children, but for the sake of theßoman Catholic childrea'who belong to those schools. I say that* if. you were to introduce such a change as that, you would at once strike a fatal blow at the whole system. Those jealousies which have been el- : layed, and those suspicions which are now sleeping, would at once. be again aroused. , You .would have 300,000 or 400,000 of those children taken away from the schools, anti all your hopes of a united education for' the people of Ireland would thus be blasted.—(Hear, hear.), But then it is said, " If you do not approve of any modification of your plan, let the national schools remain as they are, conducted according to the .na tional system, but make a separate grant for the sake of the children belonging to the Established Church of Ireland. • IC is very plausible to say that that is what is done in England—that that is your system ' here—and why not therefore adopt it in Ireland? But I see no farce in the objection that these is a difference of system in England and Ireland. What I wish to see effected is the greatest degree of good that is practicable; and if I-find that, according to one system, the moat good is practicable in England, and that, according to another system, the most good is practicable in Ireland, I will take the system that effects the most good. If you say that the members of the Church of Ireland, who are as one-sixth or one-seventh of the population, and at the same time the possessors of the- greatest proportion of the property of that country, shall-have- a separate grant, how will you deny to the Roman Catholic Bishops, who wish likewise for separation, a similar grant for Roman Catholic schools, as separate and as exclusive? -- (Hear, hear.) Considering the advantages which you have in Ireland—considering the means which the ' Church of Ireland now ,possesses s —considering that Archbishop M•Hale and others are as strongly fir separate education as any of, the bishops and clergy of the .Established Church , of Ireland— how could you deny to them their separate schools, conducted ac cording to Roman Catholic maxims, and exclusively and rigidly worked, by the Raman Catholic clergy ?—(llear.) 01 the advance of 120,000/. for educational purposes, you would perhaps have to give 20,000/. to the Estab lished Church, 'whilst 100,00 N. would be given exclu sively to Roman ' Catholic schools. And who can tell me what will be the course of education iu these Roman Catholic schools; when they are entirely set loose from this system of mixed education, which has taught there to know and to love their Protestant brethren, and to act upon the precepts of the Christian. religion? 'Do not think that the effects will be the same in ' Ireland that you see in England, where the grant is apportioned to the Church of England, to the British and Foreign School Society;to the Wesleyans, and the Roman 'Ca- ; tholics. In Ireland; you have it finally different. In that country, where there has been so much of separation and animosity, you would see that animosity revive s , and fostered • by restoring the ' separate system e and yet it would be impbssible to atop. If you say that you will have a separate grant for the Established, Church, it will be impossible fur you to stop there and , say that to it, and,to it elope shall this separate grant be. made—that to no- other religious persuasion in Ireland will you give the same advantage. •, You would thus be introducing an injustice, you would thus to raising an exclusion with respect to a new system which we have" , so much t i deplore with respect to the system that has long been established.—(Hear.) The adventages that I look for from this grant is, that, being a matter of very recant introduction, founded upon grants by Parliament o to which no one has a claim, except on the , rounds of 1 general justice and p ,licy, you have it entirely in your own hands to distribute that sum, in the way that will produce the grc latest inflaenee on the future progress of Ireland. You have it in your power to say that you VI i 11 metre it the means of reconciling persona of different re ligions, of saying that your rule in Ireland is just, and that it is not because one person is called a Protestant, another 4 Presbyterianoind another a Roman Catholic, that you will depart from your rule of doing equal justice. That rule has been lately established. It is working well, and it will be your own fault if it be departed fom. I hope, there fire, on all these considerations, that -tile House will not agree to make any change in the grant as • it has hitherto been distributed-4 hope they will sup port the Commission of Education, comprising, ass it does, men of greet eminence, thouete of different reli gions, like Archbishop Whately and Archbishop Murray. —(Hear, hear.) One of the complaiiste made is that the clergy at the Church of Ireland receive no support, ceun tsnance, or favour from the State, unless they are friends of the national system of education; but I beg to observe, that the clergy who are declared to be hostile to this plan of education, are not excluded from the most valu able beaefices or preferments of the greatest value in Ireland, ,in coitsequerice of their opposition. If it were true that the Statahad the mooopely of all the benefices that might be the case.- But . she fact is that generally speaking the bishops have the "far greater portion of ' the patronage of the Church. I .find that in Armagh the Crown has four. livings and the primate 49, - that in the dioCese of I erns the Crown has 1 living and 'the bishop 44sand that in Cashel the Crown has 3 livings and the bishop 34. 7 --(Hear.),l do not think, therefore, that the worldly prospects of these gentlemen are blighted, in the manner which has beers repreiented. Where the Crown does not favour them, , the bishop, generally speaking, prefers them; and I do not find fault with him' for that. - But if I do not find fault with him, neither is the Crown to be condemned nor Censured, if—in the di..g" posal of such .patronage as may fall . to the Crown, when the dispenser 6f-that patronage meets a man of piety, learning, and character, who is favourable to the system csf.national edecation—they prefer him to one who is its decided ' opponent—(Hear, hear.) I think, therefore, that upon every groudd theTeis no reason for the claim that has been ' preferred. I regret 'deeply to ob serve that the clergy of the Church of Ireland still entertain such strong repugnance to the national system of education in that country. I think that the clergy of the Church of Ireland, in consideration of their merits id every respect, but especially for the charitable exertions they made during the late painftil years of famine and distress, are deserving of every rt - spect on the part ' of this House. I am concerned, there. fore, that, upon this subject I should be compelled to differ from them; and were it not that I think their wishes are opposed to the genenal 'welfare of the people of Ireland, and that we should be committing a serious inroad upon our system of education, I should be glad to comply with the desire they have . expressed. But seeing that such serious consequences must result—seeing that ' many schemes and plans for Ireland have often failed in ourhands—seeing that this is a platens established by Lord Stanley in 1832, which has had good success—which has prospered, and which promises to strengthen religion -to promote good conduct and obedince to the laws amongst the people of Ireland—l earnestly cull upon - the Hoisie to'give it their support, end not to consent to abridge its efficiency. . Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON would not address the House on the present occasion were it not that he had a public duty to perform to those who had chosen him as their representative. He was anxious to correct a' mistake into which tho Hon. Member for Cork (Mr. 'Fagan) had fallen, in stating that the bishops of the ' Established Church were opposed to the national system of education in Ireland. So far from that being the case, seven out of the twelve were in favour of it. With re spect to the Noble Lord who bad been referred to as fa vourable to, this system—Lord Stanley—no one could fur 'a moment doubt that the Noble Lord bad regarded'it as a great social experiment, and that he had given to it all the attention of his mind, with a hope and view of hear.) Be4urtrYtihnegreotwit he er t eg r s e y at st m em ista s k u e e s ce e s o s m fu m ll iti — ed ( i [ n ie.a t r h'e atlas ;ice on this subject in relation to the children in various parts of Ireland of the different denominations of Chris tians. 'No doubt, it was deniable, if practicable, to have the children - of the several religious deoomitiationseaset together within the walls of . one school-room; but the system had been tried, and he did not hesitate to say ,t 'that nd t i lit at a i s t not was t farlt e b . fr e o s m t - being system' a t h p a e t rf: could t s y b s e t e a m d o . p t H e d, He invite I those who boasted' so much of the accuracy of the statistics of the national. education system, us; in ope ration in Ireland, to try and. proye, that accuracy, and he thought be could be able to show that their Caleula tions were fallacions.. ' Sir J. GR.A.H AM said be was a member of the Go vernment along with Lord Seinlty amid the Noble Lord ,opposite who had proposed he eational system; and, therefor•, althozgh he could not hope to add anything to what had been said by the N.,lolti Is . erd and other speakers, he felt bound to address the House, for the purpose of declaring his coi.tiuned adhesibil to that sS stein. lie most cordially agreed with the Noble Lord the Member. for Tyrone that relisious instruCtion was the beat pos sible cure foi the faistest part of ti.e social and - moral evils of Ireland; but it seemed 'to him that the Noble Lord, in insisting upon that, put altogether apart Roman Catholic religious instruction, as a thing not to be re garded in' treating the question. lie .(Sir J. Gra ham) altogether and entirely, dissented from that does trine.'—(Hear, hear.) The Nobhi*Lord in analysing the' proportion of -Roman Catholic children at these schools in Ulster talked of the small proportion of Protestants to be found in them, but did th-i Noble Lord mean to set, aside the Presbyterians ?—(Hear) —and - was not the national system adopted by them in that part of the country as completely as it was accepted by the Roman Catholics 'in the other parts of Ireland ? —(Hear,, hoer.) Ile (Sir James Graham) regretted—deeply regretted—that the members of the Church of &a;- land had not derived all the advantages from the schools under this system of which it had been, proved they. were susceptible of imparting; but why Ras this the case, and what caused it? ,It was simply because the clergymen of the Church of England in Ire land, he was sorry to say, had led the way in a spirit of uncompromising hostility against the national system. — (Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had read the statements Of a clergyman who attended the school in his own parieb, and he hid tald the House that the result was, that though the Protestant and Catholic children were instructed in the history of their religion, it could not be described as religious instruction.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member who had brought forward the motion had described the national system of education in Ire land as latitudinarian, and he (Sir J. Graham) admitted that a greater objection could not be made to it, sup posing the objection to be well founded. But if he was not mistaken, there existed most irrefragable proofs tai the contrary. An annual examination of the children of all the parochial echool's of - Dublin took place in the June of every year, and the Society for the Suppression of Vice acd the Promotion of Religious Education in Marlborough-street gave premiums to thew best versed in the Sacred Scriptures on that occasion t , those children educated in the tenets of the Established Church. Those examinations were made by Protestant cl what was the f ac t? Iu June, 1849. the number ergyinn e oich i ll o d7ren from all the Protestant schools of Dub in, sent up for this examination, was 297; the num ber of those who received premiums was 99, and of this number. 9 out of 24 Children sent up from the National Model School of Dublin were among the recipients of premiums. With facts like this before the House, was it possible to say that Protestant children, though brought,up with , Roman Catholics in the national schools, under the national system, might not obtain the best education in the tenets and history of their own religion. He held it to be indisputably, proved that they could; and be therefore only regretted that PrOtestant clergymen of the Established Church should persevere in their opposition to that system on grounds so -thoroughly untenable. - The Noble Lord at the head of the Government had been taunted with applying all the patronage of the Church in the hands of Government in Ireland t) the furtherance of the national system of education in that country. It was not for him (Sir J. Graham) to defend the Noble Lord—ho was well able to do that himself; but the Government of which .he (Sir J. Graham) was a member had taken quite an op -1 polite course, distributing the Church patronage in Ire- I land indifferently amobg time., clergymen whom they deemed best fitted fir ecclesiastical preferment. But hew had the prelates so preferred acted in, respect to the national system—how had they exercised the patronage w i t h with which they were in trusted in ref erence t o th a t system? If he Lad been rightly inf orme d, they had uniformly used their utmost exertions in the support and maintenance and promotion of those clergymen most opposed to the doc trines of that system.—(clear, hear.) Something had been said with regard to the conscientious scruples of 1 the members of the Church of England in the matter by the Hon. Member fir Dublin; but ho (Sir J. Graham) I would ask wai the system cf education pursued in Trinity College of an exclusively Protestant cbaractsr? ' —(Hear, hear ,), He admitted, in the distribution of honours, emoluMents, and rewards, that college was most [--exclusive—(Bear, hear) —but as regarded education, he t o denied altogether that it was exclusive. On the contrary, he believethat, with the exception of an examination !upon entrance in.the Greek Testament, not on points of 1 doctrine, but in 'scanning verses, Until a degree was tale- n there was no conpulsory interference with reading, as regarded the Scriptures or in respect to a religious edu cation.—(flear ht ar.) There was another fact: in all the workhouie s of Ireland there were echools in con- nexion with the national system of education. All these workhouses, however, had Protestant chaplains. If those religious scruples alluded to by the Honourable Member were, binding upon the universal body of the clergy of the Established Church in Ireland, it would of course be impossible to find chaplains for the work houses.—(Hear, hear.) These chaplains, nevertheless, attended the schools , in the several workhouses, and aided in carrying out the system.—(Hear, hear.) It was true there was one little circumstance to be taken into account in these cases upon which, howeier, he did not desire to lay too great a stress —there was a salary at .tached to each chaplainship.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) It might be said that the building was desecrated by the performance of the Roman Catholic service within its walls; hutlhat was found to bele; objection to the chap lain.—(Hear and laughter.) Again, there were the gaols in Ireland,' to which there were'chapels attached for the calebraVen of D.vine service. Was the Protestant ser vice; ttScording to the iituel of the Established Church, excrusively celebrated iu these chapels? By no means ..(Hear)—mass, according to the forms of the Roman Catholic worship, was celebrated *there also. Still there was no scruple on the part of the Protestant cler gymen to accept the Mlle J of gaol chaplains.—(Hear and laughter.) There was also a salary attached in this caete—(Llear and laughter.) With reference to the question of scruples, it was therefore impossible to overlook these Leta—(hear, hear.) In the shape in which the question was brought before the House, it was put in an alternative form, either the system should be modified, or an exclusive grant should be made to the Eita‘dished Church. , A modification of the ' system, however, mount an enforced reading of the Scriptures in these schools feom the authorised version. . —(bear, hear.) It meant that or it meant nothing, and 1 he believed the lion. 151emter for Dublin would bear him out that this was what was intended by Et modification. 1 But if that was adopted the Government might as well declare at once that the national System of education in [ Irsiand was extitiguishsd ; fir once that modification wsinsi , t2d on--4rom thus moment the schools would ,be completely deserted by the Roman Catholic children .of the.country.-e-(blear, hear.) If they gave to one par ticular religion a separate branch from the Roman Catholic, that would make the systerredifTerthat from the national system ie Ireland. Ile would ask them, there fore, to consider welt what they were doing. The Lion. Gentleman had appealed first to the justice and then to the policy of what be proposed. But if they, were to Make that 'change they ought to make it on a princ:ple of justice; and thot , weuldderaand that, if . they made any exclusive grape - fsr educetion according to the princi ples of the Established Churcls, to the amount of 10,0001. or 12,0904 they would be obliged to make a grant to an extent of about 80,00QL for.-the Romeo Catholics. They bYa penal code, t o e x p e l w hat was ca ll e d a a doctrine, snd th at attempt was a h ars h an d c hi r a u ldl e ab l c . ieo o gu n tisn; e.--- : (fltsr,. hear.) The present attempt had been •made as a aubstitute fir that system, and it bad been intended- to' give by it a united education to both Protestants and R. pah - Ctitholits. By that they sought to .'estabffsh in a more Christian manner that which Imo previously been attempted by other means. If 480,000 persons were deriving the benefit of the national system of education in Ireland, while 400,000 of those might be Roman' Catholics, there,were 80,0.00 who we:n members of the Established (Church.—(Hear, hear.) He could help behoving allthe fruits leving that although that system might not that might have been at first promised n,, eo s ea d from it, yet its success had been signal—(Hear, not hraih hear.) , And he believed there was no Roman Catholic country in Europe (for Ireland it could not be denied was a Roman Catholic country)—(Hear, hear)—where, by the consent of the Roman Catholic hierarchy, any edu cation so Scriptural as that under the national system in - Ireland wits tolerated.-er(Llcarshear;) He would ask them, then, were they to disturb that system? He had heard With inexpressible satizEiction his young friend !vier him (Mr' Stanley) defend that system which his noble father had supported. He might say of his young friend— - - _ _ _ __ Ascanium surgentem et spas keredis Jali Itespice.7 • • • (Hear, hear.) He entreated Hon. Gentlemen at that (the Opposition) side of the House to pause before they ,displaced that great monument of the success of Lord Stanley's statestnanship . and wisdom.—(Hear, hear.) He (Sir J. Graham) had watched the national system of eduCation in Ireland with much anxiety. Amid the darkness which hung over that country, it was the - only bright spot. ..He entreated them not to overshadow that light, not to 'extinguish that Promethean heat, which it might be impossible to resuscitate.—(Hear-) They had thought and talked of similarity of institutions. That was a dangerous topic—(Hear, hear, frenn the Ministerial side)—to touch upon. There could not be an equality of institutions while the Established Church of Ireland was note that of the majority of the people of that country.—(Henr, hear.) The only grant wh ich they had ever . offerel . the Roman Catholics of that country in the nature of an endowment, was that which they had given for the sustainment of the system of national edu • cation. If they . made it an exclusive grant, however. in terms, he believed there were many of the Roman Ca tholic prelates and priesthood, who would rejoice at the succeis of the motion of the Member for the University of Dublin. In conclusion he would warn them against overthrowing that system about which he acknowledged he so much ianxiety, and be would give an unhesitat ing vote againat the motion of the Hon. Gentleman.— (Cheer's from the .kliniSterial side.) Mr. NAPIER tupported the resolution of his Hon. Fiend the "Member for the University of Dublin, and could not lielP.e4ressing his deep regret and pain at the taunt thrown out by the Right Hon. Baronet the Men,lber for Ripon, that-the Protestant clergy were actuated by . •tre:Tcenary motivev•---(Ch eers from the Opposition.) Ile wanted to knew what answer was to give to the Protestants of Ireland when they said the It•Mian Catholics of England get a share of the GovernMent grant for education, and their' asked why the Established Church in Ireland should not be equally 'favoured? l - Was not complain ed in the case of the Roman Cathblica that their schools were proselytisin4; why ahoiald 'the same- principle not be applied to the Protestants in Ireland, who had to pay their proportion of that grant ?-;-(dear, hear.) Was conscience to be respected in .England . and not in Ireland ? W ere those .who did not insist on scriptural education to receive Government assi s t a nce in Engla n d, w hil e those who liud slways—who now did•L-firoaly upheld scriptur a l educati ;n, were refused it simply because they lived in I re l An d ? 11c asked if that was justice (llcar_, hear.) . The N u ble Lord who had made. a most Christina - speech in oppociti o n to the Smul.ir ca ion Bill of the' lion. Alember for Oldham, the other day had abluiloned that principle on the present ec,m. • slim, and insisted that in Ireland they should merely t4lca cognizaraec of secular Education. If either Prot s r tams or Roman Catholics came over to this country, they would be,entitied to share, in the public grants. Al!, in fact, were' so entitled, except those who denied de religion 'altogether, aad thus they came to the conclu sion, th a t i n I re l a nd the members of the Pretestant Es tablished Chuteh' ro e*posed tti the same exclu s i on an d the same .stigma as those altonied nl eel l;lou, (Hear.) But he ptit it to the Noble Lord the Member for King's Lynn, who so ably represented his father, if it was the intemion of his noble relation to exclude the Protestants of Ireland from all participation in these grants? Ho belived that Noble-Lord was most desirous to establish a system of united education, but the result was, according to the report of the Commissioners on. the subject, when it was tried, that scrip tural combined education was impracticable, and that secular must be kept apart from scriptural instruc tion. The consequence was, that instead of schools being open to all, as was intended by the Noble Lord, the conditions laid down excluded a large number of Protestant children from these schools.—( Fleur, hear.) The practical arrangements were of such a character as to exclude all religious education from the common in struction given in the schools. When religious instruction was to be given, a large board was exhibited stating the fact, and the Roman Catholic children left them. la se cular instruction they had unity, but when the name of God was mentioned, when prayer or praise was to be offered up to the Creator, then came separation and iso lation.—(hear, hear.). That was what was celled deno minational . education. The Right Hon. Beronet tee Member for Ripon said he did not understand that term, but he found in a former speech of the Right Hon. Ba ronet that he advocated education under the superin tendence of the Church exclusivety.—(Bear, hear.) Those were the opinions of the Right lion. Baronet when he was a younger man, and he believed they were opi nions in which honourable men would more readily coin cide than they would with -his present views.—(flear.) The Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tamworth had given similar opinions, and he thought he could not ad duce better authority. If the word of God was fixed and certain, he would ask it it was to be changed with the changing whims ‘,and inroads of politicians and states men? A question had been raised; whether it n as pos sible to get clergymen al.eays to superintend these schools; but that was not the point at issue. The ques tion was, whether they should not have the parochial schools in Ireland under the same superintendence, and conducted on the same principle as these schools were in Eugland? Why should we have one rule for the Church of Ireland, and another for the Church of England, when according to law they were a united Church?—(Hear, hear.) It appeared that there were not 100 clergymen in Ireland who hal joined these schools, but it was not therefore to be inferred that the Bishops imposed any test on the clergy. The Noble Lord had referred to the report of the Commission of 1830, but the system was very different as proposed by the Prcletes at that time. They proposed to have parochial schools under the superintendence of the clergy, but they proposed alse to have supplementary scboels, in which lessons con sisting of extracts from the authorised version of the Holy Scriptures were to 'be read daily.—(Divide, and cheers.) The real question was not whether the na tional system was right or wrong; but conceding that it was right, for argument sake, they had come to the de cision that all denominations of Christians should have the power of teaching the Scriptures according to their own conscience. —(Hear, hear.) • Well, then he would ask was education an imperial or a local question? If "it was an imperial quests n, why should the Churchmen of Ireland alone be excluded from its benefits? The Right lion. Baronet the Member for Ripon had do queatly expressed his hopes of a better future for Ire land, from the continuance and spread of education; bat he would say, that the only way to make that education really useful, and to put down political turbulence and discontent, was to place the Prot tenant Churchman upon the same footing as the other denominations in Ireland. Mr. SHEIL said he begged to assure the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had just sat down, and he hoped he might venture to call him his Hon. and Learned Friend, that he (Mr. Shell) should not consider any system of education as deserving the name of" nationat" to which the Irish Protestants could take just objection. —(Hear, hear.) He entertained for his Protestant fel low-countrymen a stronger feeling than mere patriotism. When he considered the wisdom, the genius, the elo quence, the virtue and the talent; when he recollected bow many great statesmen, profound writers, and be would add gallant soldiers they numbered, ho could not withhold the expression of his admiration, and he would say his gratitude, when he remembered, what be never could forget, namely, that within the last century there was not a sig!e one of those great and eminent men that did not take a part in elevating ,the condition of their Roman Catholic fellow-countrymen.—(Loud cheers.) Influenced by those feelings, he would deprecate as much as any man present the perpetration of a wrong to the religious feelings of his Protestant fellow countrymen.— (Hear.) But at the same time he thought that where a grant of money was asked, where the scruples of Hon. Gentlemen took an acquisitive turn—(Laughter)— where the Chancellor of the. Exchequer was called upon to administer spiritual consolation to Hou. and Learned Gentlemen—(Laughter)--it was but reasonable that'the House should inquire whether the objections were well founded, and whether the fears are not visionary_ by ' which the Parliamentary consciences of Hon. Gentlemen are Ferturbed.—(Hear, hear.) . Now he (Mr. Sheil) could not agree in the position that the Protestants of Ireland were opposed to the National Board.—(Hear, hear.) The great mass of the gentlemen of Ireland were in favour of it, because they knew and appreciated the benefit they derived from having the people educated. — (Hear, hear.) They knew that the national school planted in every parish was a means of refreshing and fertilising the minds which otherwise would remain ste rile .and unproductive.—(Hear.) With respect to the Presbyterians, the Hon. and Learned Gentleman ad- mitted they were favourable to the Board. But why was the Honourable and Learned Gentleman so indignant at the mention of the word " salary" by the honourable Member for Ripon?—(Hear, hear.) Was it that the clergy of the Est tblished Church were not to be influ enced by temporal inducement, though the Mosaic system held out such as the reward of ecclesiastical virtue?— (",Hear, hear," and laughter.) B u t in th e same b rea th the honourable and Learned Gentleman told them that when thiePresbyteriaus joined the Beard the Regium Denuin was increased.—(" Hear," and laughter.) The lion. and Learned Gentleman had quoted the authority of S Rift; but as for religion the fellow had none at all, though in all other respects he was an excellent Presby terian --(Laughter and cheers.) It was true the majo rity of the c!ergy ware opposed to the National Board, but there was a preponderance of mitres, and they should not be, overlooked. Seven bishops were too itn portant t ) be disregardel—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) The Archbishop of Dublin (Dr. Whately), who, as a scholar, was worth a host of sacerdotal mediocrities in point of talent, the profoundest of the mitred theologians— (Hear, hear)—was not opposed to the. National Board.— (Hear, hear.) Allusion had been male to Lord Stanley, awl the tone adopted by him in reference to this matter, when Secretary for Ireland; and he (Mr. Sheil) should say that of his progeny, speaking in a figurative sense, the Noble Lord had cause to be proud. Lord Stanley was Secretary for Ireland in 1832, and a member of the Cabinet. That Noble Lord was anxious that religious instruction should be associated with secular education; that the tree of knowledge should be grafted on the tree of life.—(Hear.) Lord Stanley addressed a 1- , tter in 1832 to the' Duke of Leinster. He (Mr. Shiel) had the letter there, and he apprehended a few sentences, of it quoted would set the entire matter at rest. lie would, therefore, read a few for the purpose of disabusing_ the public mind of the wrong impressions made on it. Hon. Gentlemen who might coneeive the system of national education to be - incompatible with religion would do well to study the letter. Here was an extract—" They (the Commissioners) will require that the schools be kept open a certain number of hours for four or five days in each week, at the discretion of the Commissioners a and that the remaining one or two days be set apart for giv ing separate religious instruction as may be approved of by the clergy of the respective persuasions; and that the respective clergy be permitted to give religious instruc tion after school hours on the other days of the week." —(hear, hear.) That was plain language; religious in struction to be communicated on one or two distinct days in each week, and for a certain time after school hours on each of the other days.—(Hear, hear.) Now, with that simple statement he destroyed the whole web of sophistry which the antagonists of the National Beard system had so ingeniously woven. Here was autho rity to teach the children, not alone the great moral truths of Christianity, but also the clegmas on Which both churches dissented; and after that would any Hon. Gentleman assert that the schools under - the National Board were closed against the interference of the Protestant clergymen?—(Hear, hears) He (Mr. Sheil) .was not going to impute factious motives to that body. He thought that amongst the Protestant clergy of Ireland the majority were men conspicuous for virtue. But in saying that he could not refrain from saying what he conceived to be the real cause of the Protestant clergy having abandoned the national schools. It was this—a Protestant and Catholic &orgy were now upon an equality.—(Cheers.) The Protestant clergy could not stomach that equality, becauce they considered it incompatible with the ascendancy which the law had given them.—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) The Hon. and Learned Gentleman had said again and again, and with such emphasis of reiteration as to lead to the belief that he attached great importance to the assertion, that the Roman Catholics of this country had received over-pa tronage and encouragement; but he (Mr. Sheil) would say, restoreao the Roman Catholics the splendid endow ments bequeathed by their ancestors to the Church, and the cases would be parallel—(Hear, hear.) But was it because Lazarus in his poverty re ceived relief, that Dives in the profusion of his wealth should stretch forth a supplicating hand?—(Loud cheers.) Providence had given to the favoured Esta blishment abundant means for extending the - benefits of education, and why did they not avail themselves of them ?—(Elear, hear.) Why not apply for liberty to ape propriate a portion of tlae Church revenues to the main tenance of schools in connexion with the Church?— (Hear, hear, and loud cheers.) He (Mr. Sheil) recol lected seventeen or eighteen years ago it was proposed that part of the property of Durham Cathedral should be applied for the purpose of establishing a university in connexion with the church. He held the charter in his hands, and here were the words. After reciting that the dean and chapter - of Durham Were desirous of establish ing, in Connexion with the cathedral church, a university for the advancement of learning. to be under the govern ment of the said dean and chapter for the time being, and also under the jurisdiction-of the lord bishop of the dio cese as visitor, it recited that the said do an and chapter were desirious that those revenues should be appropriated —appropriated—(Lsughter)—and set apart for the pur poses of the university. He thought the lion. Gentleman would see that the cases were in erratum. pedibes. W hy did not Hua.Merubers opposite veto to the house for an Act of Learliament, and say, o Give us so much of the property of the Cnurch as is m cessary for the support of schools in connexion with the Establishment?"—(Hear, hear.) If they should do so the House would Imr with great ir.terest, mad certainly with some serprise.—(Laughter.) Ile hoped they would forgive him if he ventured to say that a scriptural image was eeai l d exhausted, presented syel t df, o oh ph i je s u is m ohno i n that I should the when he'n an- Irish Churchman, full but wisatiated, cried Gut, `'G subject ive, had been tiguy hear.) con tent hiasself, it conclu-idn, with stating the facts that Lord Stanley founded the National B card--(hear, hear) —that the Right lion. Member for Tam worth, with Lord Stanley as his colleague, largely added to the funds of the National Board—(Bear, hear)—that Parliament had again and again approved of the National Board__ that every distinguished statesman in the country — of course excepting Hon. Gentlemen opposite, from whom unhappily he differed (Laughter) had concurred in approving of the national system.— ( Char, hear.) And he might add, that these authori ties were crowned with a very high and remark able approval. Amongst the most remarkable incidents that occurred when the Queen was in Ireland was her visit to the National Bosrd—(Hear)—which took place (by accident of course) before she visited the College of the holy and undivided Trinity.—(Laughter.) It was a fine spectacle to see the Queen, with the con sort so worthy of her, attended by the representatives of the Presbyterian Church, by the Catholic Archbishop of Dublin, and by the Protestant Archbishop of Dublin —with those venerable ecclesiastics at her side, differing in creed, but united by the common brotherhood of Christianity—(Cheers)—in the performance of one of the noblest, duties which their common Christianity pre scribed; it was a fine thing to see the Sovereign of a great empire surrounded by groups of those little children who gazed on her with affectionate amazement, while she returned their looks with a fondness almost maternal; and, better than all, it was noble and thrilling, indeed, to see the emotions by which that great lady was moved when her heart boat with a high and holy aspiration that she might live to see the benefits of education carried out in their full and perfect develop ment.—(Loud cheers.) Mr. PLUMPTRE said the Right Hon. Gentleman had represented the Protestant clergy of Ireland as re fusiug to take part in the national system of education, because, having been in the habit of maintaining an at cendancy, they did not like to abandni it. He felt it his duty to declare on their behalf that they were ac tuated by far higher and holier motives; and as, on the ono hand, they were placed fir beyond any praise which he (Mr. Plumptre) could give them, so, on the other hand, no blame which the Right Honeurable Gentleman might be inclined to cast upon them would affect their character. Mr. REYNOLDS rose amidst loud cries of 'tDivide'' and much interruption. He said this qsestion was partly a Church question, partly a money question, and partly a party question.—(Laughter, and renewed in terruption.) An analysis of the political opinions of those who were opposed to the system would show that they were the opponents of every movement made in that House to promote rational liberty. He deeply re gretted that the Hon. Member for the University of Dublin had permitted himself to be made the instrument of introducting a topic which was likely to increase reli gious discord, and thus keep alive that spirit which had inflicted so much injury on Ireland. It must be ad mitted that those by whom this motion was introduced might take out a patent for ingenuity in the invention of grievances. As a Roman Catholic Member he com plained of that discussion.—(Cries of "Question.") The agitation of the question was an annual farce. Once a year, about Easter, there waste gatheringjn the Rotunda at Dublin. What was that Rotunda? A pocket edition of Westminster Hall. Who attended in its galleries? Eight or nine intolerant and bigoted bishops, a certain number of expectant curates, a larger number of excited laymen, and a considerable gathering of hysterical old maids—(Laughter) —the Members for the University of Dublin attending ex officio. This might be exceedingly unpalateable to " ears polite," but he had the misfortune to represent a great city—(Laughter)—Hon. Gentlemen should have allowed him to finish the sentence—a city in the centre of which was the great citadel of Orange ascendancy, Trinity College, and in one corner the Rotunda, •in which such unseemly scenes were enacted. He was there to impeach what, without meaning to offend any one, he must call an annual humbug. [Mr. Stanford here rose as if to speak, but immediately resumed his seat.] He begged most respectfully to state that in using the word " humbug," he had not thought of the Hon. Member for Reading (Mr. Stanford).—(Great laughter.) Even if he thought the Hon. Member deserved that name, being aware that he was leading a life of single blessedness he would not like to injure his character with the ladies of Reading.—(Roare of laughter.) He hoped that expla nation would be satisfactory to the Hon. Gentleman. If a Russian or a Frenchman, quite unacquainted with the subject had heard the speeches in favour of the motion, he would have fancied that the Protestants of Ireland were the most miserably-used people on the face of the earth. Now, what were the facts? Including Metho dists and Quakers, the Protestants of Ireland amounted to 850,000 of the population; the revenues of the Cnurch amounted, some said, to 1,000,0001.; others said to 700,000/, aid the Hon. Member for the Univer sity of Dublin would admit that they were not leas than 600,000/. The Honourable Gentleman nodded dissent, but he (Mr. Reynolds) believed the estimate to he a low one; and that amount was quite irrespective of what was given to the diocesan and endowed schools, and of the 100,0001. a year placed at the disposal of the Eccle siastical Commissioners for the building and repairing of churches. They complained that the people were net handed over neck-and-heels to that proselytising asso ciation. It was said there were 43,000 Roman Catholic children within the walls of' the Kildare-street schools. Why, these children had every one of them been kid napped by the influence of soup and oatmeal.—(Laugh ter.) Human food was withheld unless spiritual food was accepted. (Cheers, and " Oh, oh.") The Hon. Member for Stockport (Mr. Heald) was as ignorant of Tipperary Protestantism as he was of the feelings of his own constituents when he said that nine•tenths of them were oppoSed to the ballot.—(Hear, hear.) If he were ignorant of the state of political ft cling in Stockport, how grossly ignorant must he be of the state of Tippe rary Protestantism 1 He would assure the House that Tipperary was not such a wildeiness as the Hon. Mem ber supposed; it was a large and civilized community. He begged to say, in conclusion, that be conscientiously believed this annual motion was brought on for Li e pur pose of guarding the outposts of that overgrown levia than, the Prot. slant Church in Ireland.• He ttelievedin his conscience that, until the temporalities of that Church were entirely abolished, they never would have peace or order iu Ireland; and, speaking as an Irishman, he be lieved, ni t only that they never would have peace, but that they never ought to have peace in Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) Other men might mince the matter; they were not so catalid as he was; but the great mass tithe popu lotion of Ireland considered the temporalities of that Church as an intolerable badge of slavery and oppres sion; and, until the whole edifice was, by the operation of law, levell,d with the dust, he never should consider himself an emancipated Irishman. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the resolution ... ... 142 Against it Majority _ —B3 TFIE SIT-N, LONDON, SAT:UR,DAY EVENING, JUNE 22, 1850 SUPPLY. The House then went into Committee of Supply. bk. COBDEN objected to their proceeding in: Com mittee at that hour, as it was impossible that they could discuss the details of the votes. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it was absolutely essential that he should get a , me money on account, to defray the expenses which had been incurred in some of the minor departments. Colonel SIBTLIORP deprecated the notion of Chan cellors of the Exchequer always asking fur money on account. They should always, know the whole sums that were required. After; further objection on the part of Mr. COBDEN to proceeding with Supply at that live hour. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he would he satisfied to take half the money con tained in the items. The following sums wore then voted on account up to the Ist of March, 1851:• 9,0001. for tha dcfra}ing of law expenses incurred in Governraentprosecutions. 5,0004 to defray the expenses of prosecuting offender! against the Laws of coinage. 10,0004 for the expenses of sheriffs and the fees o their officers' salaries. 5,0004 to defray the salaries and expenses of the Com missioners of the Insolvent Debtors' Courts. 40,0001. for law expenses in Scotland. 30,000/. for law expenses in Ireland. 20,0001. for the expenses of the metropolitan force in Dublin. 7,000/. for the charges of inspectors of prisons. 70,0001. for the expense of maintaining the county gaols and lunatic asylums. 100,0001. for the expenses of maintaining bonding establishments. 50,0001. for the transportation of convicts. 100,0001. for the maintenance of convict establish ments in the colonies. The House then resumed. POPULATION BILL. _ This Bill passed through Committee. LINEN AND MANUFACTURES (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was committed, and the Chairman reported progress and obtained leave to sit again. RAILWAY AUDIT BILL. Mr. LABOUCHERE said that this was a Bill from the Lords, of which he had charge. There were parts of this Bill which were manifestly at variance with the privileges of the House, and therefore he moved that this Bill be laid aside, and he should ask fur leave to in troduce another on the same subject. LANDLORD AND TENANT BILL. On the motion for the resumption of the adjourned debate on the third reading, Mr. CHRISTOPHER moved the adjournment of the debate. The House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment ... 34 Against it ... 86 Majority Mr. CHRISTOPHER then moved the adjournment of the House. After a few words from Mr. PUSEY, Sir J. Y. BULLER suggested that the Bill should be fixed for a morning sitting. Mr. PUSEY was willing to fix Thursday next, at twelve o'clock.—(No, no.) Lord GALWAY said that as Irish Members did not wish t) h....ve the Bill fur Ireland, and many English Members were equally hostile, he would recommend the lion. Member to confine it to Berkshire.—(Laughter.) After a desultory conversation, the third reading was fixed for twelve o'clock on Thursday next. NEW BRIDGE AT WESTMINSTER. On the motion of Ur. FitEWEN, leave was given to bring in a, Bill authorising the erection of a temporary bridge at Westminster. The Hous.! adjourned at Twenty minutes past One. T L L On _LIE -ATE FIRE AND Loss or Wednesday, at eleven o'clock, Mr. Wakley, jun., and a niline. rous Jury, assembled at the King's Head Ta.vern, Castle straei, Long•acre, for the purpose of inquiring into the cir cumstances connected with the deaths of Mrs. Charlotte Harding, aged 54, and Miss Margaret Nolan, aged 14, the two persons who lost their lives at the fire which cccurredin Pluzifix-street, St. Giles's, on Monday last, particulars of which appeared in this journal of the same day. No new facts were elicited in evidence, and the jury returned a ver dict "That the deceased Nuliku was burnt iu the fire, and the deceased Harding )03,the fait, and the jury have no evi- Ciell" tQ tftui Caine 400 Dre." THE COUNTRY MARKETS. A Ve Lav e W . AKEFIELD, JUNE 2l.—The supplies are goo.. % a quiet market, and the business passing in all articles limited. Wheat is held firmly at last week's prices. Oats, shellil'g' a nt beans are sold on easier terms. 0:d s: ...., to' New. WHEAT, per qr. 60Ibs per bushel:— s. Sutiolk,Essex, and Kent, red ... 41 to 44 Ditto, white ... 44 48 Norfolk and Hunts., red 40 42 Ditto, white ... 44 46 Lincolnshire and Cambridge, red ... 39 41 Ditto, white ... 4O 46 Yorkshire, red „ 33 41 Ditto, white ... .. „„. ..„ 4) 46 Dantzic and Konigsburg, white 41 46 Lowerßaltic and Hamburgh, red... 37 41 Mediterranean, red ... BARLEY, per quarter of 8 bushels : Norfolk and Suffolk... , Lincolnshire and Yorkshire Scotch ••• ••• , Grinding per 30 stone 18 19 Foreign ... • 22 24 BEANS, per quarter of 8 bushels 631 b : Small, fine ••• ... 26 29 Ticks Foreign ... ••• ... 25 27 OATS, per stone : 01 Mealing • ••• ••• 94 to 10(1 0 . 1 to 0 j Feeding, „.. :84 to 91(1 04 to Od Foreign ... .81to 91 01 0 , SHELLING, per load of 2611 b 22 23 MALT, per load of 6 imperial bushels 34 36 I'E-AS, per Imperial Quarter Blue and white boilers Grey and Feed AIM] Qrs. Wheat ... ... 11,136 1,242 )ats 1,16') ;ans... ••• ••• ••• VA LS. Peas ... Tares ... _ e.. •••••• ...... ...... ••••• ••••• - ... • . .. ~_~ r - 0.. ..... ~.o. - ••••• ..... .0. ..... ••••• ...... _.... ..... ....- ..... ex. .... ow. •••• ..... ow. .. ..... ...• •• - --- -"" i •••• 0 0 .0. 0.... .0. • 0 .... ••• ....0 ..... ...... ‘..--- ... ....• ...... vo ... ...• ... 24 -- 26 ... 23 -- 25 "*".. Rapeseed ... ••• 433 Shelling ... Linseed .. Malt .• o' Flour ... ... ••• ''' , 0 14 EXETER, JUNE 21.—Cattle—There was a fair sePe t l a pd beasts, but not so large as that of last week. iet, Vegetables—Green peas 8d to is 6d p er p ec k ; g° o '-' b, 2d per quart; strawberries, 5,1 to 6d per quart; Id to lid per lb; new potatoes. 2icl per lb; old d u "'" ja per score. We noticed some very fine cu c umbers, esP e t e d 6i on the stall of Mr. Bustard. Pannier—Goslings sf g d de; each; ducks 3s 6d to 5s per couple; chicke n 2s 6d to 3 ",, t ter fowls 3; 6d to 4; Gd do; leverets 2s Gd to 3 s 6d eaell;. " he st. 8d to 80 per lb; eggs 20 for Is. Corn Exchange''' . od tendance to-day has been small. The market is 5 119 .„'leit prices rather higher than this day w ee k. F or t h e best M" .. e l v. of warranted English wheat, ha Gd per bushel has bet es' rently given, and it is consid ere d th a t th a t pr i ce wib:." o "ger ceeded before the ma r k e t c l oses . F renc h rea d wheat ' , 4 - 6 20 to ing at 3 8 s to 39s per quarter; and w hit e B e l g ian ;dist' 43; (601bs to the bushel). I n malting barley nothing - per ever is doing; oats, 2s to 2 s 3d p er b us h e l ; fi ne flour, 300 sack. BRISTOL, JUNE 20.—With only moderate supplies 0 - d far lish wheat we experience a steady consumptive both it and sweet foreign, at fully last week's prices. per clay's market English now wheat fetched f rom 38; to ‘, 4 l ii ta, imperial quarter ; foreign, white, 42s to 44s per 4801 b; red, extra fine qualities, 40s to 42s ; ditto 6ne ditto, 3 81 1 1° 0 0 ditto, ditto, ordinary ditto, 33s to 36 3 6d; ditto, 11 0 ' 1 ' , 0 : 95 375. The sale of flour is languid, English s ec onds 2 716 bjilt: per sack ; American, &c., sweet, 23s to 24s per barrels! is so' ing barley continues steady ; in grinding barley there g all b much doing, but it attracts rather more attention. •"„ r feri malting to-day fetched from 23s to 26s p er i m perial cle" s od ditto and foreign grinding, ISs to 19s per 4001 b. Qt . ,,O h ° beans are dull, but values are unalt ere d. O a ts, DI" fri 9 Welch, fetched from 15s to 16s per imperial q uarteri 6 ger, white, 16s 6d to 1 Is per 3201 b ; ditt o bl ac k, 15 s 6d to fi eri° imperial quarter. Beans, Engli s h, 24 s t o 27 s 6d per 3 1 0 ',. quarter ; foreign, 22s to 25s per 4801 b. Th e a rrivals week are—Wheat, 2,109 quarters ; oats, 655 quarters:. b arbs 1,610 quarters ; beans, 3.0 quarters ; flour, 500 saclL!'i or ielf average fur the week are—Wheat, 40s ; o a t s , 16s 7d; 23s 1 td ; beans, 28s. , 01 BRISTOL SUGAR MARKET, JUNE 21. —The bilel li n e rth r the past week has been very limited, in. consequence, d e sei small show at market ; prices are steady with a slightift r ico to improve. Refined goods are in fair demand at full r hums sell more freely at steady rates.—Bristol Merclifik s ,6l! SHEFFIELD, JUNE 18.—Wheat, white, 16 s 6d to ri J o, ditto, red, Its 6d to 16s ; beans, lOs 6d to 12s; peal/ 05 ti to 12; per load. Barley, 22s to 24 ; ; ma l t , 48 ; to 52! i ' a rtef . (old), 16: to 18s; ditto (new), Os to Os Od per Tiji, • 1 Millers' prices of flour, Is sd, and is 7d p er s t o ne of if 6 0 9 ' RIPON, JUNE 20.—White wheat 5s 6d to fs Od, red de ° ol; to 5s 6d ; beans, 4s Od to 4s 6d per bushel ; barley lib oats 1 , s Od to 21a per qr. Kt; 3d to : 61 ,, to .ARESBOROUGH, UNE 19.—Wheat 5s r - fis beans 3s 6d to 3s 9d per bushel ; barley 25s to 26s ; oat s ' 21s per qr. oits ScARBOROUGH. JUNE 20. —Red wheat 4s 9d to 55 6 r 00 ° , ditto 5s Od to 5s 9d per 5 stones; black o a t s 6d to 7 0, 0 05 ditto 7d to 8d per stone ; malting barley 19s to 21s, to ditto 17s to l9s per qr. of 32 stones; superfine flour - seconds ditto, 27s to 30s per sack of 20 ston es . f r WETHERBY, JUNE 20.—White wheat 16s Od to 17si 6d ;qt.; ditto 14s 6d to 15s 6d per load ; barley 21s to- 26s Il e , 4 beans lOs Od to 123 Od per load ; oats 7d t o Bid Per s t " ) ;(15 1 1 BANGOR, JUNE 21.—We have had only a s mall atte' t i c ie°, at our market to-day. The trade was quiet in every af t o grain. There was no alteration in the prices of week. s ferti DENBIGH, JUNE 19.—The market to-day Woreii: Ate slack appearance. The business done was very sW I " of ls prices of corn and pulse very simil a r to ' o ur q uotatiof? week. fa 0 0 ell er RUTHIN, JUNE 17.—The averages were about, • _ 4 14s to 14s 6d ; barley, very little inquired after, 7s; 1 0 Iv o Gs, and in some instances where superior samples sbo . 3d to 6d per hobbet more; fresh butter, 81c1 to 9d ; 511 j i 6d to 7id per pound. 6 3 ; ° MOLD, JUNE 19.—Wheat, 14s 6d; barley, Is potatoes, Ild ; for new ditto 2d per pound. i rlet j 'r RUYL, JUNE 18.—Wheat 13 s t o 14 p er h o bbet ; 01 ,0 , to 8s ; oats 53 9d to Cs 6d p e r ditt o ; c l over see d, 5d to pound ; potatoes, 12s p er h o bb et ; f res h b utter 9d " lf salmon lld per po un d. ift, GLASGOW, JUNE 19.—We have h a d b u t modest° - o r i o f from any quarter, yet adequate to the immediate wsrAl trade. At Grangemouth a b ou t 2,289 quarters of whesibn quarters of barley, 375 qu ar t ers o f oats , 215 qua rters °poi) and 40 quarters of peas, reached f rom th e con tinent' /1 the week there was a fair consumptiv e d eman d for 0 " 004 ()fro a good inquiry for flour, at fully last Wednesday's rate' ;o'ol articles though quiet underwent no qu o t a ble chan,e;,,,s P o r day's market was tolerably well attend e d, b u t the bus''"'req u e r, was not extensive. Wh e at and flour were i n moderat e c hes at last Wednesday's currency. Barley was the MT, 0 0, Oats have to be written 3d to 6d lower per boll, 6d to is per load. Beans, peas, and Indian cern il l " favour of the buyer. 6 0 T g INVERNESS, JUNE 18.—Wheat, per , qr, weighinc e igb! o ,‘ bushel, 37s lid to 40s Od ; barley, per quarters . 0 0 1 , 1 01 541 b per bushel, 193 to 20s Od; oats, per q uarter , 42W per bushel, 17s Od to 20s (d. Oatmeal, PI bS rls i sti boll, 155 Od to Os Od; ditto second, 14501 to Os O. t o .yot if j; meal, 12s 8d to Os Od ; peasemeal, 14s Od to Os 6 ‘, 1 ,,; ~0 3 6 , ° 4 10 stone, Os 6d to Os Od ; first fl our, per 2801 b., 34s u" l e second ditto, 26s Od to 25s Od ; oatmeal, best, per s„,,t °3 , 101, 0 0 imperial, is Od to Os Od; ditto second, Is 4d to Os vu d o t r g e, meal, Is 2d to Os 01 ; peasemeal, Is 4d to Os Od ; 014 9 2s 4d cash, 2s 8d credit ; second ditto, 2s Od cash , `Tstly; dit. Potatoes, per stone, 4%d to 5d ; beef, per P3a to sa; veal, 4d to sd; mutton, 4d to 6d; pork, ; ad e op fowls, each, 10d to 12d; chickens, per pair, 12d butt. 0,10 each, Od to Od; eggs, per dozen, 4d to 6d; t' ai ), 6 ol; per lb, 9d to Od; ditto, salt, 9d to 10d • croudie ato lid ; four-pound loaf, cash, Sit to 6d ; ditto, credit, via coals, per cwt, 9d ; hay, per stone, 7d to Bd. tob MINING INTELLIGENCE. - :yer COPPER ORES SOLD AT REDRUTII, JUNIC era; 2,993 tons ; average produce, 91; quantity or si e n r r 275 tons 8 cwt; amount of sale, 18,0411 6s 6v l ' standard, 9518 s Od. Last Sale - Standard, 99 11 1 ~,Of duce, 8. Average price per 21 cwt, 610 s 6d. , ;O. COPPER ORES FOR SALE AT LENDERVOS'IreSSid JUNE 27.—United Mines 835—Par Consols 363-I;faesi 306—Wheal Comfort 233—South Caradon 20- iv" Consols 73—West Trethellan 36—Gonarnena Banns 20—Total, 2,122 tons •e 1 cwts. it/ 15 ; ,c9: 1 COPPER ORES FOR SALE AT CAM80R24%.4 per North Roskear 701—North Pool 6l2—Consols s ,'"iss - ss e d - oti s ' 551—Wh. Seton 419—Fowey Consols 310.—W% I 41 —South Wh. Frances 233—Todd's Regulus COAL MAMIE' Bate's West Hartley 133 Od Begbies Bartley Cresswell Main ..... 123 3d Davison'sWestHartley 13s 6(1 East Adairs Main lls Od Holywell ......... 14s Od North Percy Hartley l3B Od I'anfield Moor ranfield Moor Butes l2s Od Townley l3s Od, Walker's Primrose West Wvlam Windsor's Pontop.... ,T.--YEsTimnat• 159 Barton ....... .*....... 186 36 Riddell .......,•.,.• " Walker ............ ••• J 53 0 4 Braddyll ......... ..••• Hetton .................. 15.4 Kecpier Grange • ...... 04 Russell's Hattori ••"'. 1 41 64 Scarborough ........... 15g c o Bentley ... ........... ° 4 4 j Caradoc ..... ••''.**.' ' 4. " Heugh ........... 04 South Hartlepool ••••• j 46 South Kelloe ........... rjo IWbitworth ........... •••• 15, p 5 Adelaide Tees . • ... 0 Bartley ......... —O4 0j Nixon's Mertlift Cardiff market, 83. Wall's End, &c Acorn Close Bewicke and Co. Brown's Gas Gosforth Ships at pr eve i n ett e! 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