The Sun. — London, England, 1851-07-12 00:00:00

'".Cr-irt : 17. +7741160 '4.4wd LONDON, BRIGHTON, AND SOUTH COAST RAIL WAY. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sza,—l beg to inform you, that the accounts of this eompany for the past half-year having been this day submitted to the board of directors, they have decided upon recommending the payment of a dividend of 365. per mt. upon the consolidated stook of the company. I am, Sir, your obedient servant, FRED. SLIGHT, Secretary. Secretary's Office, July 12, 1851. DENMARK AND THE DUCHIES. The lndependance of Brussels says : —" Our Ham burgh correspondent writes that the Ministerial crisis is far from having arrived at a conclusion in Den mark. There are great difficulties in forming a new administration. The principal of these is to the modifications to be made in the Constitution of 1848 in order to render it applicable to the Duchies. It is the King himself who, by a unique exception at present, feels great repugnance in modifying the fun damental law, which is characterised by the demo cratic spirit which prevailed in Europe when it was voted. He will have to cede, however, for it is stated that his Government has entered into engagements with the European powers, which will render that course necessary ; and besides modifications are ad mitted to be indispensable in order to establish poli tical and administrative unity in all parts of the Monarchy. The Assembly of Notables of the Duchies, at Flensburg, has suspended its delibera tions until the result of the Ministerial crisis at Co penhagen shall be known. The Correspondent of Hamburgh states that the King, as a concession to the Duchies, has resolved that there shall be a special Council for the Duchies, consisting of three Members—The President of the Council of Ministers, Count Charles de Moltke, and Count de Criminill." SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. WEIGH TS FOR THE GOODWOOD CUP. Age st. lb. Age st. lb. Voltigenr Little Jack 4 9 3 Iris Nutshell Cariboo Beebunter Essedarius Land grave Lord George 6 12 7 0 6 8 10 Mentes ........... Olin; her 4 8 10 Pandenins Rut:shorough ...... 4 810 King Charming The Nigger 4 8 10,Ciamus 3 6 10 Cossack Officious Darkie, by Si r H er - i Predlstin 63 a 6 8 cules, out of Dark , Young Altisidora a 6 8 Susan ............ 4 8 1 War Horse 4 6 8 ---_ RACING FIXT U RES FOR 1851. Dunninv,ton l4 Stamford 15 Nur t la Woolwich l5 •• 16 Itsley Nottingham Abingdon MariboYough Wenlock Chelmsford 22 Al7l Tiverton Guildford ......... Othhana Bridgnorth Goodwood Chewton Mendip D'wnham Park 3O Kautsford Tenbury 3l UST. Ripon North Staffordshire Leith Subscription 5 Brighton 6 Leominster 6 Brighton Club 8 Wolverhampton ... 11 Huntingdon l2 Reading York SEPTE. Southport Plymouth Paisley 2l Canterbury 2l Stourbridge 25 Darby 26 Taunton ligham 27 Lynn Stirling Scarborough ]seeks Warwick Rochester Lincoln Radcliff , . 8 Lichfield . Cheadle (Staff.) 8 Yarmouth L'Aceeter lO Weymouth .. 10 Liverpool Autumn Hunt 10 Morpeth lO Uttoxeter Dover Doncaster S indbach Bedford ... 24 Eglinton Park ... 23 or 24 Manchester Autumn 25 Newmarket F.O 3O OCTOBER. Monmouth Richmond Caledonian 1 Newmarket S.O l3 Chesterfield 1 Holywell Hunt ..... 14 Chester Hampton Autumn 7 Newmarket Houghton.. 27 NOTE. [BEA. Worcester First week. MINING INTELLIGENCE, (From the Mining Journal of this day.) The characteristic features of the market have not materially changed since our last publication, when we presented a report not of an over sanguine character; whilst to do business lower prices are submitted to generally. On the other hand, there aro pleasing ex ceptions to this state of things, and, though few in num ber, they demonstrate the sound opinion entertained of csrtain stocks, which cannot readily be had, even at the advanced offers made for them. These anomalies exist a; the sequence of an almost unprecedented bygone amount of speculation, but which has now entirely sub sided, and left a reflecting period for the capitalist, which will be, no doubt, usjully employed, and, ere long, show itself in an increased &mind for all sound mining property, on a basis bounded upon intrinsic value alone. In the Metal Market—Copper is very brisk, and the smelters are full of orders.—Lead continues in request. —Tin is firmer, and a sale of Banca is reported for America. The price of gold in bars (s•andard) was 31. 17s. 9d. per ounce; silver in bars (ditto), ss. Old. per ounce; and new dollars, 4s. !lid. per ounce. At East Wheal Rose meeting on Monday, the ac counts for March and April shooed-Balance from last account, 2,498/. Is, 4d.; ores sold (less dues), 8,0181. • Cargoll adventurers for water charge, &c., 1251. Bs. 6d. ,=10,641/. 9s. 10d.-Mine costs, coals, and merchants' bills, 5,7851. 14s. 10d.; Stannary Court dues and other taxes, 243/. 9s, 9d.; discount on ore bills, 4/.175.; car riage of ore and coals, 196/. 2s. ld.; by dividend of 151. per 1,9201.; leaving balance in favour of _ _ • sha"e , adven turers, 2,4911. 6s. 2d. Lewis Mines Company have declared a dividend of 10s. per share. At South Wheal Frances hi-monthly meeting, on Monday, the ac?,ount3 showed-Balance end March, 1811. 12s. 43. ; copper era sold, 3,310/. 103. ; tin, 519/. 15s. 4d.±---4,0111. 17e. Bd. Labour cos*, April, 6801. 13.. 9d.; May, 7481. 195.; merchants' bills, 633/. 2s. Id.; dues, 255/. 05. 7d.; rates, taxes, &c., 571.55. 3d.; dividend, 1,4881.; I,aving balance in favour of the mine, 148/. 10s. 7d., the actual profits on the two months' workings being 1,4541. 18s. 3:.1. At Treliane meeting, on the 30th of June, the ac counts showed-Balance last account, 4561. Bs. 5d.; sucdry receipts, 15/. 10s.; received for silver-lead ore, 1,2491. Is. 3 d.1,720/. 19s. Bd. By labour cost for January, 324/. os. 3d.; February, 3341.35. 9d.; merchants' bills, 2671. 33. 3d.; dues, 81/. Bs.; dividend, 30th April, 2561.; balance for engine, 501; carriage, 35/. 9s. Id.; leaves balance to next accoun*, 352/. 153. 4d. A divi dend of 11. per share was made. At Pendarves and St. Aubyn Consols meeting on the Ist instant, the accounts for four months, ending May, showed-Balance from last account, 3,048/. 75.; costs and merchants' bills, 715/. 2a. 7d. 3,763/. 9s. 7d. By amount of contract by the lessees, , 3500/.: leaving due /0 purser, 2632 9s. 7d. At Towan Mine meetin., on the 30th June the ac counts showed-Coat from'August, 1850, to end of May, 1851, 32/. ss. 2d.; merchants' bills, 80/. Os. 2d.= 133 / . ss. 4d.; to pay off vvhicfli, and assist in further pro secution of the mine, a call of 103. per 612th share was made. At East Wheal George quarterly meeting, on Tues day, the accounts showed--Balance from last account, 1281. ss. 101; sales of ores for March, April, and May, 67 tons 11 cWts. 3 qrs., which realised 7171.05. ld. The cost for April, May, and June, were 545/ . 155.: leaving balance in favour of mine of 2991. 10s. 11d. of the Mining At the half-yearly meeting d g Compan y of Ireland on accounts showed Atkinson, a profit of 7891.195. Bd. f rom 468/. 18s. 9d. f rom the the Luganure Lead Mines; Slievardagh Collieries; 3411. 63. sd. from the Ballycorus Lead works ; and 75/. 4s. 6 d. insurance accounte‘..-.1,6761. 4d. Less, part of the extr a outlay at Knockmahon, 9951. 4 5.; loss at the Cairn° and Ballycorus Lead Mines, 12/. 93. 6cl ; Lisnacon Colliery, 11/. 3s. 33.; Kilosurrin Copper Mine, 21. las 3d.; interest account, 2321. 12s. 10d. se. 1,254/. 7a. led.: IZavig a net profit cf 4221. Is. 61, exclusive of 1,75 2/. 14s sd. expended in operations for the future benefit of th; vailable assets amounted to 49,1481. 18z company. The 5 ; the liabilities, 17,251/. Os. 9d. At the first meeting of Wheal Zion adventurers, on the 26th of Jute, it veas found that the 2,155 new wero ell taken up and paid upon, and o f 53. per share was made on the 1,941 original shares on s4tutrh a d h e a - res, to eqnal ise them with the new issue, payable on At Wheal Violet meeting,7th of August.s showed-Balance last account, 731. cost end May, _a O Y, the accounts cost I Is. 81 1 8x. 6d.; ; four months less call received, 1851. 163. 21.; leaves balance ,364.; 62/. 2i. 4d. Thu mine henceforth is dividedti nto 512 account, shares, and a call of 7 s. 6 d. per share was m a d e , At the Peter Tavy and Mary Tavy Consol s two monthly meeting on Tuesday, which was numerously attended (Henry Gibson, Esq., in the chair), the rep or t s from the mine were read, and gave general satisfaction t h e shareholders as to their suture pros to pects. The stamps, it was stated, would be completed by the b eg i n _ rin g o. O cto h q r. The ba ati,o in favour of advent urers r was 8201. 4s. 63. Az . N or th Wheal Buller quarterly meeting on Tues. , day: th acc ounts shoved-Balance la st acconnl - „ 1,052/. 143. 23. ; less oxponde3 durin4 tno quarter, .1661..6 3 . ; leaves balance to next account, 851. 18s. A call of 11. per share way made. At WarlegPn meeting on Tuesday, the ac -5 7_1 d 1 . 2. 43.; calls = s counts showed-Balanc e last, ,account,unt, received, 1231.; sundry receipts, 311. I Se. 7 ecretar2lll. 17s. y's salary 113. C os t s f o r April, 1 33 /. 49 . 11c.; s and expenses, 91. 9.5. 4d.: leaving balance to next ac- count, 691. 3s. Bd., besides 561. 6s. 2d. for tin sold the 27th June. A call of 2s. 6d. per share was trade. Tran,actions have taken place in Spear De Consols, Bedford United, Alfred Consols, Tremayne, St. Aubyn and Gr 3115 Wheal Providence., Arthur, Merl lyn, Cook's Kitchen, Bodmin Consols, Carvannal, Trehm mny, Mary Ann, Margaret, South Tamar, Tincroft, ESA t Leisure, Garreg, Wheal Tom, Trefusis, Wheal Violet, and Vin cent. Inquiries have been made for Devon Grea t Consols and Kenmare. A valuable gold mine has been discovered at a point equi-distant, or nearly so, between Tunis and Algiers. The French and the Bey of Tunis equally claim it, and some very sharp letters on the subject have passed. Unless matters can be adjusted a serious disturbance may probably result. At Amsterdam and Rotterdam the tin marltet is in active, parties awaiting the great sales, which a ommence on the sth proximo. The London imports of the week comprise--from Rot terdam, 49 casks plumbago; Ceylon, 233 casks plum bago; Antwerp, 137 barrels 12 cases zinc, 30 casks 24 cases spelter, 96 casks spelter nails. At Liverpool—from Valparaiso, 1,261 l'arrels 907 casks of copper ore, 620 bags of silver ore, 541 bags mixed ore, 546 bags regulus, 475 barrels coppi r ; Ham burgh, 10 casks manganese ; Rotterdam, 41 0 tons 69 casks manganese ; Dordt, 178 tons manganese. At Hull—from Hamburgh, 26 casks cobalt c.re, 2,097 plates of spelter ; Stockholm, 26,083 bars iron ; Stetti n . 748 plates spelter ; Cronstadt, 588 bars iron; Antwerp, 43 bars zinc; Gottenburg, 1,214 bars iron; Pettlrsburgh, 597 bars iron ; Rotterdam, 135 bars steel iron- THE ARMY AND NAVY• (From the United Service Gazette of this d ay.) TROOPS IN LONDON.--It is expected that °the addi tional number of troops brought into London and its vi cinity on the occasion of the Great Exhibition will move to their respective quarters in the course of the ensuing month. THE LATE CANTEEN AT THE HORSE GUARDS.—In addition to the appropriation of the Canteen fc r offices, an additional building is to be erected in the T ilt-yard, in order to give further accommodation and r own for conducting the business of the Secretary-at-1 Arar ; great portion of the building now occupied as of fices for the Adjutant-General will be vacated by that ofl icer and turned over to the War-office, and he will have, we un derstand, possession of that which is to be new built. DIRECTOR GENERAL FIELD TRAIN DEPART! PIENT.— In consequence of the promotion of Major. Gene' •al Lacy to the command of the 6th battalion Royal Artillery, the situation of director general of the field train depart ment falls vacant, but we believe no appointment ; will be made to it until the close of the year, when it will bo seen whether a Brevet takes place or not. In all pro bability Lieutenant-Colonel Hardinge, the brother of Lord Hardinge, will ultimately be the successor. Major- General Lacy, an old and distinguished soldier, has re sided for many years at Woolwich, where he ; justly greatly beloved and respected. Good Service Pensions of 2001. per annum earn h, have been granted to Lieutenant-Generals C. Gordon and A. Lloyd, and Major-Ge neral T. B. Aylmer. One hundred pounds per annum additional have been confisrred on Major-Generals Sir Da Lacy Evans and Fleming, and a pension of 1001. on Major-General A. Me Lachlan. The services of Lieutenant-General Gordon date from the days of Argaum, Asseergbur, and Ga wilghur. We have failed to di,cover on what whits vemeets the claim of Lieutenant-General Lloyd rests. Major- General Aylmer is a particularly distinguished soldier. The Helder, Egypt, the Peninsula and W,-; .Icheren were successively the scenes of his service. Of Major- Generals Evans and ,Fleming we have had occ asien to speak so recently, and to refer to their merits 'ould be simply to repeat ourselves. We only wish that. Sir De Lacy Evans was more active in the soldier's cause in his place in Parliament. Major-General M`Lachlan, says the brief biographer of the army, " was hot tourably mentioned in Colonel Gillespie's dispatch, for his con duct at the suppression of tee mutiny at Ve lore, in 1806, on which occasion he was the senior effieer pre sent, and severely wounded." _ I _ BEER FOR THE TROOPS IN INDIL.—It is mentioned that the Government of India has applied for 1,000 hogsheads of ale nod 1,500 hogsheads of po:rter, for the use of the European troops in India, in the place of spirituous liquors. We are glad to hear this., but we cannot help, at the same time, remarking upon the 'slow pregrese of wholesome changes in India. Thirty years ago the late Mejor- General Sir Lionel Smith recommended the importation of beer for the troops on the irresistible ground of its superiority to arrack, brandy, or rum—and the advice was disregarded. The ex pense was in the way, and even now we saepect the cost will be found to ba very considerable. Have not the attempts to brew beer in India proved sieccessful? There was a person in Mussoorie, if we are not much mistaken, who used to prepare a tolerably palateable and wholesome beterage• and we have somewhere seen it stated by Captain Ochterlony, of tho Madras filmy, that hops can be grown on the Neilgherries, and bee r brewed of a sufficiently good quality. After the proofs afforded at the Great Exhibition of what India can do for her self, the Government would only act in perfect harmony with its ordinary economy to direct that groving and brewing experiments be tried on the spot. THE BRAZILS.—In consequence of the threatened hostilities, the Commander-in-Chief, Rear-Admiral Reynolds, C. 8., in his flag-ship Southampton, 50, Cap• Lain Cory, proceeded from Rio to Buenos Ayres, and remained there with the Thetis, 38, Captain Kuper, C. 8., and Rifleman, 8, screw-schooner, Lieutenant. Commander Dalton, May 28. There were at Rio, June 11th—Tweed, 18, Commander Lord F. Russell; Con flict, screw-sloop, Commander Drake ; and Sharp shooter, screw-schooner, Lieutenant-Commander Bailey. SIR JAMES BROOKE. Mr. flume succeeded last night in bringin g forward his motion for an inquiry into the career of Sir James Brooke in the East Indian Archipelago. It was high time that this point should, one way or the other, be brought to a determinate issue. On the one band, it would ill become the dignity of the British Government to lend the sanction of its name to projects of individual ambition ; and on the other, if Sir James Brooke be really a meritorious servant of the Crown, it is in the last degree impolitic in a public, and unjust in a private sense, to hamper his proceedings and dog his steps with constant accusation, not to say with perpetual slander and falsehood. Mr. Hume's moti in of last night was but a mess of warmed-up pottage after all. So far from bringing any fresh matter be fore the notice of the House, it appears to have been his studious endeavour, in his introductory speech, to disconaect Sir James Brooke, as far as pos sible, from anything like exclusive responsibility for the coercive meaeures pursued towards the pirates of the Indian Archipelago. This is in itself a fact of sufficient significance. It would be absurd to give those persons who have set Mr. Hume on to make this attack credit for any abatement of rancour against the object of their hostility. The fact is simply teat the charges against Sir James Brooke have absolutely and at all points broken down in their hands. It should be remembered that this ii not the first time tne case has been dis cussed. There has been ample opportunity for amending any errors in tactics—for raking up Singapore smell talk, and hitching together something like a plausible tale. Well, then, how stand the facts? But a short while back the endeavour was made to fasten upon Sir James Brooke personally the guilt of a wholesale mas sacre, undertaken for the advancement of his own per sonal interests. Last night nothing more was heard of this accusation. We are, however, well content to accept the issue as tendered by Mr. Hume. Hero are his own words:—" It was supposed by many that he wished to attack the character of Sir James Brooke. Undoubtedly, so far as Sir J. Brooke was an actor in those scenes, his character might be affected; but this was a question of such a nature that he implicated her Majesty's Minis ters and all parties who permitted those enormities with out taking; the proper and constitutional course to pre vent them." The gist of the whole charge must of course depend upon the truth or falsehood in the two words we have italicised. Are these sea rovers of the Indian Archipelago—we will not call them merciless and bloodthirsty pirates just yet—addicted to the sei zure of ships and slaughter of their crews? More espe cially, are the Sarebas and Sakarran—yacht clubs shall we style them?—affected with this taint? Was the " ex perimental squadron"—shall it be ?—destroyed byCaptain Farquhar in the Nemesis on the night of the 31st July '49, really engaged in a scientific cruise, or on less cre ditable business? Now, let us exemine this question as a mere question of evidence. With regard to the squadron destroyed by Captain Farquhar, the certificate of Sir Christopher Rawlinson, and the minutes of evidence taken before him, which have been so often quoted in the course of argument, would be sufficient to bring con viction to any disinterested person. But, as though this were not enough, there has been brought to light within a few weeks a dispatch from Colonel Butter worth, the Governor of Singapore, to the Indian Govern ment, in which that officer, present on the scene of ac tion, and bound by his position to ascertain the truth officially, informs the Indian authorities of the enormi ties committed by these Sakarran and Sarebas tribes, and eulogises the efforts for their extirpation made by her Majesty's forces under Capt. Keppell. Even this evidence —decisive as it is—is thrown into the shade by a paper which was laid yesterday morning before both Houses by her Majesty's command. This document gives an ample a ccount of the p i rac i es comm i tte d i n t h e I nd i an Archipelago and of the measures adopted by the Ne therlands Government from the year 1816 to 1845 for their repre ss i on. We recommend this paper to the de liberate attention of our rea de rs as the most compl e t e justification of Si r J. appeared print. Brooke's measures that has yet They will find it an account of such terrible and systematic atrocities as must make every friend of humanity desirous that the might of the Bri tish name may be directed against ruffians who perpe trate them upon the open seas and in the broad eye of day. Nor must it be supposed that the north-west g w i %n o s free live from up coast of Bornetoh,atthethoenlyps Dyak ttrbiebsseere piraey, or the course o f the Sakarran and Sarebua rivers constitute a kind of Moravian settlement; whilst all around them violence and bloodshed reign su preme. We must ask par don for the len g t h of the ex tract we are a bout to give, but it is of the last i mportance actuall to bring th e charge of habitual p irac y home t o the tribes s the Nemesis up on the unimpeach able testimony the Indian officers of the Netherl an d s Government. Thu they write—" The schooner Haai, stationed a t S ambas (Borneo), succ eeded in inflicting severe loss up on a dared to lay in wait for her. In the same manner the flotilla of 30 Dyak prahus which had coasts of Pontianaek were disturbed At Manpawa theywith them. Sherif that nine of then© Mohamet, the commanderby Dyak pirates. came to blows . lear nt ghat of the district, having mouth of the river, each manned by from 30 to 40 prahus e r v e i ere t . a the , th em w i th only three . bandits, resolved to attack prangs. Theq fought so closely that scarcely any other weapon than the kiresang (sabre) was used. The commandant had 37 men killed, the loss of the enemy amounted to 80. It appeared that the Dyaks came from Seribas, a locality situated in the interior of the countries to the north of Sambas. which is only accessible to the small light vessels of the Dyaks, of slender form, and of which alt the parts are united by means of canes. In their voyages they burn and massacre along the shore all that is within their reach. As trophies they carry off the skulls of the victims of their ferocity. They have no firearms, but generally use the klegang, and javelins or spears of wood har dened by fire." The document in question goes on to complain of the difficulties thrown by th e English in the way of the Netherlands Government in their endea vours to put a stop to piracy in this particular region of the Archipelago. It would be idle to follow the speakers in the debate. The;e was little room for oratorical display or ability in argument. Arguments that have been used a dozen times before fall flat upon the ear, and a proposition for a commission for inquiry .where there is nothing to in quire about appears sufficiently absurd. What was to be done with the pirates when they were fairly brought to bay? " Catch them and try them in regular form," says Mr. Hume. Lord Palmerston's answer was un answerable—" But they won't be caught." The alterna tives were, either to inflict upon them a severe and ex emplary chastisement, or to let them sail away in triumph. The British officers upon the spot decidtd upon the first course, and the sound policy of the measure has been evinced by the comparative tranquillity which until recently has reigned on the coast. The overwhelm ing division of last night-230 against 19—is, however, the best proof of the opinion entertained by the English people of the whole Borneo controversy, and a tri umphant exculpation of one of the most remarkable men of his country and his time.— Times. THE SUSPECTED MURDER NEAR NORWICH. No further remains have been discovered, nor has any thing transpired during the week calculated to throw light upon the circumstances, beyond what was reported in the Mercury of Saturday last. Some pieces of flesh, which had been found in Chapel-field, were brought to the station-house in the beginning of the week, but the medical gentlemen have pronounced them not to be human. It is the opinion of many criminal lawyers in London, that these remains have been brought from a long distance by railway, and afterwards distributed by the party bringing them.—Norwich Mercury. THE BISHOPS AND THEIR INCOMES A morning paper, "in order that the case may be thoroughly understood," gives the following scheme of the English bishoprics, as settled in 1837, with the re spective incomes then assigned to them, and adds the annexed list of revenues actually received by them in 1850, as given under the signatures of the bishops themselves in the return just laid before Parliament:- Assigned in 1837. £ Received in 1850. X Canterbury ... 15,000 Canterbury ... ... 15,000 York ... 10,000 York, 1849 ... 19,217 „ 1:50 .. 9,457 (Paid Commissioners, 3,7501) London ... 19,89 Durham ••• .. 38,619 ( Paid Commissioners, 11,200/4 Winchester ... ... 28,388 St. Asaph ... 6,355 kFaid Commissioners, 1,3001.) Bangor •.. ... 6,163 Bath and Wells ..„ 6,971 Carlisle ... 4,324 ' Chester ... 2,725 IChichester ••• 5 ,31 9 (Paid Commissioners, 65 1.) St. 11 a 88 v 45 id 04 's ... 5,029 Ely, 9,223 4,232 (Paid Commissioners, 3,0001) Exeter ... 1,919 Gloucester and Bristol 4,170 , Hereford •• • ... 4,468 Lichfield ... 6,034 Lincoln •• • ... 4,961 ILlandaff ... 4,398 Manchester ... .. 4,200 4,500 Norwich ... 7,571 ▪.. 5,000 Oxford „„ ... 6,402 • 4,500 Peterborough ... 4,456 ... 4,500 Ripon •• • ... 4,770 ▪ 5,000 Rochester ... 4,607 ... 5,500 Salisbury ... ... 6,128 ... 5,000 i Worcester, 1849 ... 12,813 ~ 1850 ... 5,430 '(Paid Commissioners, 1,1011.) London 10,000 Durham ... 8,00111 Winchester ... ... 7.000 Bt. Asaph and Bangor 5,200 Bath and Wells ... 5,000 Carlisle ... ... 4,500 Chester ... ... 4,500, Chichester ... ... 4,2001 St. David's .. 4,500 i Ely 5,5001 Exeter ... 5,000' Gloucester and Bristol 5,000, Hereford 4, - 200 Lichfield ... ... 4,500 Lincoln ... ... 5,000 Llandaff 4,200; Norwich ... Oxford ... Peterborough ... Ripon ... Rochester ... Sali.bury Worcester ... LAW INTELLIGENCE. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 11. WRITS OF ERROR—TILE BARON DE BODE V. THE QUEEN. In this case judgment was delivered this morning. The LORD CHIEF EARON said he appeared for the purpose of delivering the opinions of his brother judges and himself. The question put by their Lordships' House was this :—" An individual claims compensation under the treaties mentioned in the statute 59th George 111., cap. 31, or under one of those treaties, or under the treaties and the statute, or under the statute; has he any and what remedy to recover such compensation, other than by an application to the Com missioners appointed and acting under the statute, and by appeal from their decision to the judgment of the Privy Colwell?" He had to report the unanimous opinion of the Judges, that, according to the construction of the:statute, all the money received from the French Government was re ceived by the English Government under the provisions of the statute, and ought to be applied according to its di rections, and that the suppliant, therefore, had no claim ex cept under the provisions of the statute. There was conse quently no foundation for this claim under the petition of right. The statute did dispose of the whole fund. The argument was, that the judgment of the Commissioners appointed under the statute had disposed of such part of the fund only as was sufficient to satisfy the claims of all those whose names had been registered before the passing of the Act, leaving the claims of those who had been afterwards ad mitted as claimants undecided; and it was said that the sup plicant's name was not entered on the register, and therefore was not decided by the Commissioners, but must now be referred to the facts found in the inquisition returned by the Commissioners on the petition of right to be true. If so, it would become a matter entitled to great consideration what would have been the liability of the Sovereign if that Act had not been passed ; but such was not the construction of the Act, but it might have been had the Act provided for the application of the whole fund. The Judges were, there fore, of opinion that no case was made out for the claimant; for any claimant on the fund must proceed according to the provisions of the Act of Parliament, and he had no other remedy. In answer to the question put by the House, the Judges had not thought it necessary to go into the reaso , a in detail, as they entirely concurred with the opinion of the Judges, as expressed in the Court of Fachequer Chamber. The LORD CHANCELLOR expressed his entire concurrence with the opinion of the Judges, and moved that the judgment of the Court below should be affirmed.—Agreed to. MCADDING V. LORANT. This was a writ of error on a judgment of the Court of Exchequer Chamber, by which it had been declared that a rate for the relief of the poor of the parish of St. Pancras, ordered at a meeting of the 12th of August to bl made, but the details of which were not completed till another vestry meeting, held by adjournment on the 14th of September, was a valid rate. There were several objections to the rate; but the principal objections were, that the meeting f or l e vying a rate could not be adjourned, or at all events could not be adjourned without the notice of the purpose for which the meeting was to be held being again given ; and no such notice had been given here; and further, tht the form of the avowry was not sufficient, and was not sup ported by proof. Mr. Needham (who was with Mr. Prendergast) was heard in continuation of his argument on the former day for the de fendant in error. Mr. Peacock (with whom was Mr. Denman), was heard in reply. The LORD CHANCELLOR, after stating the nature of the action, and the questions raised in it, put three questions to the Judges. If an authority is given by a statute to the ma jority of a vestry, there being more than seven vestrymen present to make a rate, would such rate be unobiectionable in respect of its validity if the seven persons, or any of them, were seven vestrymen de facto but not de jure? Secondly, by the statute of Geo. 111. authority was given to a vestry to make a rate for the relief of the poor ; notice of the meeting to be held for that purpose was to be given on the preceding Sunday ; and by the same statute it was enacted that notice should be given to each vestryman. At a vestry held on the 12th of August, it was resolved that a rate should be made, but as all the forms of the rate could not then be completed, adjournments were made to several different days, the last being the 14th September, when the details of the rate were completed. There was a notice of the purpose of the meeting of the 12th of August, but the notice of the meeting of the 14th of September contained no mention of the pur pose of making a rate. Supposing the rate to be otherwise valid, was it invalid by:reason of the notice not stating the purpose for which the meeting assembled ? Thirdly, in an action of replevin, an avowry alleged that a poor-rate wat made after the passing of a certain statute, and before the taking of the plaintiff's goods, and whilst his goods were liable to be rated—namely, on the 12th of August, a rate was made. Would such allegation be supported by proof of the following facts? (The Lord Chancellor here read a summary of the facts as already given.) These three questions embraced all the points, and he moved that they should be the questions put to the Judges. The motion was agreed to, and the judges requested time to consider them. _ Vv The LORD CHIEF BARON, after an absence of about three quarters of an hour, returned, and read the opinion of the Judges. The LORD CHANOELLOIL and Lord BROUGHAM entirely concurred in the opinions of the judges. Judgment for the defendant in error. IS COMMITTEE FOR PRIVILEGES. THE DUNRAVEN PEERAGI. Mr. S. Rice appeared for the claimant. The claim of Lord Dunraven to vote for representative peers was heard and allowed. VIZ BANTRY PEERAGE. This was another claim to vote for representative peers for Ireland. Mr. Parnell appeared for the claimant. The Earl of BANDON and Earl LISTOWELL, from their places, proved the death of the father of the claimant, and the fact that the claimant had borne the title by courtesy given to the eldest son, and that they believed him to be the son of the late Peer.—The claim was allowed. CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT. OLD COURT. (Before Mr. Justice WicarrmAN.) THE TRIAL OF JAMES HUGGINS FOR ARSON. (Continued from our Third Edition of last night.) Mr. CLARICCOX briefly replied, and contended that the de fence set up on the ground of insanity had altogether failed. Mr. Justice WIGHTMAN then summed up. He said that before the jury could acquit the prisoner on the ground of in sanity they must be satisfied that at the time he committed the act he was in such a state of mind as to be incapable of distinguishing between right and wrong in reference to that act. It was not sufficient to excuse a person from the conse quences of his acts, that he was labouring under sone delu- Eioll upon other subjects; but the law required that, at the time of committing it, he was incapable of distinguishing whether it was right or wrong. The law, in such a case only, held a person to be irresponsible; and it would be dangerous thheinpgristooner urge w a w s h t y h , e i n udgm e indeed to the interests of society if any other rule prevailed. The jury, without being in deliberation more than five minutes, returned a ver di ct o f G u ilty. 1.: say death should oul d whether not he be had anything re corded against hi m • lie made no reply. The Learned J UDGE , addressing him, said he had been convicted upon the clea rest calledntu o p f on de t a o possible evidence of haying wil f fully caused the fire, whichin its results might have been the means of sacrificing tb lives of two innocent persons, and would have been so o doubt but for its timely dis covery_ His Learned Comel had exercised every possible I ingenuity in urging every opic that could be introduced in his behalf, but he telt himilf compelled to rest his defence upon the ground that, fronthe state of his mind, he was not responsible for his actions. The jury were not satisfied with the evidence to support tat defence, and he thought they had come to a right concision, for it would be dangerous indeed if a man who hafor a great many years exercised all the ordinary duties of Fe without any suggestion of his incompetence to perform hose duties, was to be excused from the consequences of aiesperate crime because he might, from irritability of tempe or any other cause, have some delusions upon other subjecs. The offence of which he had been convicted was stillmpital, but in his case the law would not be carried out t , that extent. Judgment of death would, however, be recored against him, and it would rest with the Crown to decid to what extent that sentence would be commuted, but he least punishment ho might ex pect would be transportatrn for a very long period. POLICE 1 I HER MAJESTY'S " IAT DESTROYER•"—CHARGE OF ROBBERY. —Amongst thcpersonages who do good and faith ful service to the Sovereign of this famed isle is one James Black who, in addition tc his being a beer-shop keeper, at 26, Edward-street, Beget's-park, has the high honour of being (according to printd bills which he hai disseminated) " rat and mole destroyer to her Majesty Queen Victoria." The charge preferred by lira was against William Fowler and Frederick Fowler, fa having stolen ten live rats, his (complainant's) property. Mr. LoNo, to complanant—There is no such offence known to and punishable by the law as the stealing of rats, which are looked upon and described as vermin. Complainant—l purchased the rats, sir, and they cost me 20. each. I sometimes five 6d. a piece for them. Mr. LowG—Sixpence £ piece for rats? what for? Com plainant—l procure then for officers in barracks, who get them for the purpose of taming their little terriers with, and I can get plenty of custon in that way. Mr. LONG said he coild not interfere under the circum stances, and that the prisoners must be discharged. Police-constable 239 3 (by whom a cage containing ten full-grown rats was profficed)—What am I to do with these " animals," your Worshi)? Mr. Lows —Give then up to the complainant. His Worship's order vas complied with, and in about an hour afterwards "her Aajesty's rat and mole catcher" re entered the court, when he set forth that he had ferrets on his premises to the value of at least 201., and he wished to know if, in the event of the said ferrets being stolen, he could look upon them as beng " property" or not. He (com plainant) had been threatened by the parties accused, and he was fearful that attempts would be made to steal his ferrets, upon which he placed se much value. Mr. LONG gave him to understand that if his ferrets should be stolen, he might have his remedy by a civil action at the county court. He (the Magistrate) did not think that a criminal prosecution for such an offence could be maintained. Her Majesty's " rat and mole catcher," after thanking his Worship for the attention which he d paid to the case, and making such a salaam as the Grand Sultan would have looked for and expected to receive from one of his vassals, then quitted the court, taking with him a large wire cage in which the ten rats were secured. He then, followed by three or four moustached persons of military appearance, repaired to Ashbridge's, the Coach and Horses Hotel, where they in dulged themselves with the landlord's" kill grief," and other beverages, to their hearts' content. At three o'clock" her Majesty's rat catcher" had a strong presentiment that he had had quite enough, and in a few minutes he took his seat in his drag, which was waiting for him in Paradise-street—the said drag showing the loyalty of its owner, inasmuch as on each side were painted two rats, with the letters " V. R.," and a crown above. As he stepped into the vehicle he was saluted with cries of Bravo, Black, keep your spirits up, my boy, in spite of all muffs, and stick to rats and ferrets as long as you live." The horse was then driven off at the rate of fourteen miles an hour. THE LONDON GAZETTE, July 11. BANKRUPTS. Thomas Edwin Southee, advertising agent, Fleet-street, to surrender July 21, at one, and August 28, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basing hall-street ; Buchanan, Basinghall-street. William Taylor and James Wylde, flock manufacturers, Wood-street, London, July 21, at twelve, and Aug. 22, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Lepard, Bannatyne, and Gammon, Cloak lane. William Edward Johnson, coal merchant, New-wharf, Little Abingdon-street, Westminster, July 18, at twelve, and August 21, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assignee, Birchin-lane, Cornhill ; Jer wood, Ely-place, Holborn. James Murray, woollen warehouseman, Gresham-street, London, July 18, at one, and August 15, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansfeld, official assignee; Link later, Charlotte-row, Mansion-house. William Williams, builder, Ashford, Kent, July 19 and August 15, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Scans feld, official assignee ; Laurance, Plews, and Boyer, Old Jewry-chambers. Thomas Barber, bookseller, Cambridge, July 18, at one, and August 15, at half-past eleven. at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Graham, official assignee ; Pickering, Smith, and Thompson, Stone-buildings, Lincoln's-inn; Archer, Ely, Cambridgeshire. Elizabeth Thompson, brushmaker, Reading, July 22, and Aug. 23, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, official assignee, Abchurch-lane; Finney, Furnival's-inn, Holborn. Philip Rufford, Francis Rufford, and Charles John Wragge, bankers, Stourbridge, July 28, and Aug. 18, at half-past ten, at the Birmingham District Court. Whitmore, official assig nee, Birmingham ; Harward, Stourbridge ; Motteram, Knight, and Emmet, Birmingham. _ _ Philip Rufford and Francisßufford, bankers, Bromsgrove, July 26, and Aug. 16, at half-past ten, at the Birmingham District Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Birmingham; Harward, Stourbridge ; blotteram, Knight, and Emmet, Birmingham. Samuel Street, shoemaker, Devizes, July 24, and Aug. 21, at eleven. at the Bristol District Court. Acraman, official assignee, Bristol ; Abbot and Lucas, Bristol. SVilliam Ayre , s, grocer, Cardiff, July 24, and Aug. 21, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton, official as signee, Bristol; Stanley and Wasbrough, Bristol. Fletcher Clarke, wine merchant, Hawes, Yorkshire, July 28 and Aug. 21, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Hope, official assignee, Leeds ; Robinson, Leyburn ; Bond and Barwick, Leeds. Richard Brumwell, draper, Halifax, July 28, at twelve, and Aug. 20, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court. Putt, official assignee, Manchester; Sale, Worthington, and Shipman, Manchester. James Pownall and James Youil, brewers, Manchester, July 21, and Aug. 12, at twelve, at the Manchester Dis trict Court. Fraser, official assignee, Manchester; Lycett, Manchester. — James Hoyle and Thomas Hoyle, cotton manufacturers, Salford, July 24 and Aug. 15, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court. Lee, official assignee, Manchester; Rowley, Manchester. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS. July 11. EPISCOPAL INCOMES. Sir B. HALL wished to ask Lord John Russell, whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Govern ment to propose any Legislative measures for obviating the inconvenience and occasional hardship resulting from the present uncertainty of episcopal incomes, in ac cordance with the desire of the Committee on Episcopal Incomes (Parliamentary Paper, No. 400, page 294)? Also, whether the bishops who have received larger in comes than were assigned to their sees have paid the surplus over to the common fund, or have retained it? Also, whether the Ecclesiastical Commissioners intend taking legal proceedings for the recovery of the sums which, according to the last report of the Ecclesias tical Commissioners, appear to be due from certain bishops, and if not, what course they propose , to adopt that the common fund may not be deprived of that amount so long due, and, as appears by Parliamentary Paper, tis No. that demanded? Also, whether i oflisbury has intimated to the true l st3h, the Bishop repeatedly Commissioners that he will receive from them, as a fixed income, the sure assigned to his see, and whe ther any other bishop has acted in like ',manner? Such being the case, of courso all the bishops who had received their sees since that time came under that Act of Parliament. Lord J. RUSSELL said he had to state, in answer to the Hon. Baronet's first question, that of which the House was perfectly aware, namely, that an Act of Par liament had been passed many years ago by which the incomes of bishops were fixed, and those who received anything over the income assigned to their diocese were required to pay a certain sum. Other bishops were to receive a certain sum to make up the incomes of their re spective sees to the sum assigned. Lately a Bill had been passed, which provided that the Ecclesiastical Commis sioners should make arrangements by which the incomes of the bishops should neither exceed nor fall short of the sum assigned to them.—(Hear, hear.) That was to take place from January, 1849, and with regard to the bishops whose incomes were greater since then, the Ecclesiastical Commissioners were considering a scheme for carrying into effect the provisions of that Act, so that they would receive an exact sum. With regard to the other bishops he was not called upon to speak, but it was evident they were entitled to the incomes which were settled on them, and that Parliament was no more kis tified in in terfering with them than they were in interfering with any other private property whatever. These who had received more than the sums assigned to them by law, had retained it according to their rig ht by law. The Bishop of Durham had paid over a much larger sum to the Cummissioners than they Were entitled to receive from him; 11,0001. was the sum settled for him to pay, besides giving up an estate of 2,0001. per annum, which it was calculated would reduce his in come to 8,0001. It should be stated likewise that the present Bishop succeeded two prelates whose in comes were 23,0001. per annum, said whose charities and contributious were .of course commensurate to their incomes. This created a very considerable demand on the present Bishop, to which he had responded as far as he was able, to the amount of no less than 45,000/,—(Hear, hear.) The next question of the Hon. Baronet refertaset to certain bishops who were obliged to pay over certain :aims which were in excess of the sums fixed for their incomes. Some of these had received much less than had been fixed for them, and could not have paid over the sums required from them without great inconvenience. The Bishop of Ely was indebted in a considerable amount to the Commisioners, and at no time had his income exceeded the income assigned to him. The Commis sioners had not proceeded by law for the re covery of these sums, but had merely written at intervals to acquaint the Right Rev. Prelates of the amounts due and request payment. The Archbishop of York had paid all that was due, and the Bishop of St. Asaph was now making arrangements for that purpose. In the case of the Bishop of Ely there was every reason to believe that it he lived the whole sum due from him would be paid, though the Commissioners, from the consideration that his income had never reached the suns estimated, were naturally desirous not to press. With regard to the last question, the Bishop of Salis bury had put into his hands a letter written by him to the Conamissieners so late back as February last, by which ho voluntarily came under the bands of the Com missioners. COURT OF CHANCERY AND JUDICIAL COM MITTEE BILL. On the motion for the third reading of this Bill, Mr. M. MIGNES rose for the purpose of giving a denial to the statements which had been made with re gard to the Biehop of St. David's ; but he was inter rupted by The SPEAKER, who informed the Hon. Gentleman that the remarks he was making had no reference to the subject before the House. Lord J. RUSSELL suggested that the Hon. Member should defer the subject until the motion for going into Committee of Supply. The question that the Court of Chancery and Judicial Committee Bill should be read a third time having then been put, Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said he did not object to the Bill, but he objected to the proposed mode of paying the new judges. He thought that payment ought not to be made out of the suitors fund. He repeated that he did not mean to oppose the passing of the Bill, but he protested against its being considered a measure of Chan cery reform, for it would merely strengthen the judicial staff in the Court of Chancery, while it would leave the flagrant abuses of the court wholly untouched. He hoped that for these abuses some efficient remedy would yet be devised. Sir G. STRICKLAND said he agreed with the Hon. Baronet opposite (Sir H. Willoughby) that that could not be considered as a measure of Chancery reform such as the public had at length began loudly to demand. He en tirely concurred in the statement of the Right Honourable Baronet the Member for Ripon (Sir James Graham) that the Bill began at the wrong end, for it merely increased the means of carrying out the present most imperfect Chan cery system, instead of effecting a complete reform of that system. He knew a case in which the Court of Chancery had spent nine years in deciding upon the preliminary points of a suit, while the real merits of the suit had afterwards been settled by a common law court in the course of nine hours. Lord J. RUSSELL said, that undoubtedly the Bill could not be considered as a reform of the Court of Chancery ; but he should observe that, in order to obtain that reform, it was desirable that the heads of the Court should have at their disposal some time for considering the best means of carrying it into effect. Mr. SLANEY said he did not mean to oppose the Bill. But as he had been the Chairman of a Committee for in quiring into the mode in which the suits of persons engaged in commercial transactions were conducted, he felt it his duty to warn the House and the Government of the pressing necessity of passing some measure for facilitating the settle ment of those suits. No judicial arrangements could be more cumbersome, expensive, and unsatisfactory, than the present mode of terminating before the Court of Chancery disputes which arose out of commercial partnerships, The Bill was then read a third time and passed SUPPLY.—THE BISHOP OF ST. DAVID'S. The order of the day for the House resolving itself into a Committee of Supply having been read, and the question having been nut that the Speaker should leave the char, Mr. M. MILNES said he had been requested by the Bishop of St. Oavid's to give his unqualified contradiction to an assertion which had been made the other evening by the Hon. Baronet the Member for Marylebone. The Hon. Baronet had asserted without proof that that distinguished prelate had forbidd n his archdeacons to visit that diocese. Now he (Mr. M. Mimes) was authorised by the Bishop of Sc. David's to say that he had never forbidden any arch deacon to visit any portion of that diocese. When he had been raised to his present prsition in the diocese he had found that the archdeacon generally had not been in the habit of visiting it. He had found that one of the arch deacons had been the vicar of Carmarthen, with a large cure Red a small living; he had found that anothet archdeacon had been the master of an academy at Edinburgh, and had been residing altogether out of the diocese ; and he had found that the third archdeacon had been in the continual habit of visiting his archdeaconry. He (Mr. M. Milnes) was sure that that distinguished prelate would be the last person to wish to impose on that House in any way as to the con dition of his diocese, and he believed that the Right Rev. Prelate agreed with the Hon. Baronet in all fundamental points as to the duties of dignitaries of the Established Church. It should be remembered that the archdeacons had not been appointed by the Right Rev. Prelate, and that the melancholy state of a large portion of his diocese had arisen from circumstances over which he had no control. In his (Mr. M. Mines's) belief, the Hon. Baronet had no just , grounds for bringing forward a charge such as that he had adduced against a prelate not more distinguished by his Eu ropean reputation for learning than by the simplicity and frugality of his life and his Christian virtues.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Baronet had on a former occasion charged the Right Rev. Prelate in print with having appointed him self to the deanery of Brecon; and as the Hon. Baronet had afterwards withdrawn the former charge he (Mr. M. Milnes) trusted that he would also think it his duty to with draw the assertion he had recently made. Sir B. HALL said he had been asked to withdraw the statement he had made the other evening, but he declined to do any such thing. The statement he had made was this : In discussing the condition of the diocese of Sc. David's, and quoting from the reports laid before the House by the Com missioners appointed by the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon to inquire into the state of education in Wales, which report showed a most lamentable condition of the churches in that diocese, he said, that notwithstanding the fact that these reports had been laid before Parliament, not withstanding the fact that the greatest publicity had been given to them, notwithstanding the fact that they had been brought under the notice of the Right Rev. Prelate himself, he had reason to believe that of the four archdeacons in that diocese, not one had made a single visitation during the eleven years Dr. Thirlwall had been bishop of the diocese. He had further said that he had been informed, in the course of conversation, by one of the archdeacons, that the Bishop had prevented him from making a visitation. That was the statement he had made to the House, and by that statement he abided. It was for the Right Rev. Prelate himself to settle the matter with the archdeacon who had given to him (Sir B. Hall) the information on which he had founded his state ments. It so happened that that very morning he had received a communication from the archdeacon to whom he referred, enclosing a letter from the Bishop of the diocese, and he thought his Hon. Friend would have done better if he had waited till he could see the answer which he (Sir B. Hall) was prepared to make to that communication, before he had brought the subject under the notice of the House. That answer to the archdeacon he had just concluded, and had brought down with him to the House. In it he recalled to the archdeacon a conversation he had with him in his (Sir B. Hall's) own house, in the course of which he ex pressed his regret at the lamentable and disgraceful condi tion of the diocese of St. David's, as well as his regret that the archdeacon had not made any visitation in the diocese; while the rev. gentleman had told him in reply that he bad been prepared to make a visitation, that he had got his charge ready in the Welsh language, but that he had been prevented by the Bishop from making the proposed visita tion. That was his statement, and by that statement he was prepared to abide. He should further say that he bad never seen any diocese or any place in the United Kingdom in so disgraceful a state as the diocese of St. David's as regarded the state of the churches. That declaration was corrobo rated by the evidence of the Government Commissioners, to whom he had always referred. Any gentleman travelling in that diocese will find the churches there without windows and with ut roofs; and yet the archdeacons were not allowed to make any visitation. Mr. MORRIS had never heard of the Bishop of St. David's preventing his archdeacons from visiting their arch deaconries. He bore testimony to the excellent manner in which the Bishop discharged his duties. CATHEDRAL TRUSTS. Mr. MOWATT called the atte .tion of the House to the case of the Rochester Grammar School. It was one in which the oppression of an individual was mixed up' with the great subject of education. In the year 1848 the Rev. Mr. Whis ton, the head master of the Rochester Grammar School, ap plied to the dean and chapter, pointing out that the four ex hibitions attached to the school were not sufficient for the original purpose for which they were intended; and though in the year 1542, when the school was established, with the cathedral, the sum of 51. was amply sufficient, being equal to 801. at present, it was so no longer. The dean and chapter desired him to close the correspondence,, and Mr. Whiston appealed to the public; and then, having published a book, entitled "Cathedral Trusts and their Fulfilment," for this he was dismissed. The facts could not be refuted; and to show how education was connected with cathedral trusts, he would refer to several documents —to the preamble of the statutes, and then to the cathedral statutes, which provided that 21 poor boys should be maintained out of the cathedral re venues, and four scholars sent to the university, and maintained there. Amongst the provisions made were—for the dean, 1001. ; six prebends, 201. each ; and so on with others, until they came to 20 students, at 1/. 13s. 4d. ; and four students, at 61. 13s. 4d. each—the value of money then beins sixteen times as much as at the present day. All parties in that House—every one in the country —was in terested in the progress of education - and they could not but see the benefit that would be derived from the faithful execution of the cathedral trusts for education. Canterbury should have 50 boys with 4/. each—equal to about 54/. Westminster had 40 boys, which it maintained ; but it took 1,8001. from the 40 foundation scholars, and 1,7001. from the Queen's scholars, under the pretence of additional build ings. Worcester, 40 boys, had reduced its stipend from Si. 10s. to 2/. 13s. 4d. Ely, which in the sixteenth century had NO scholars, two years ago had but 24 ; Peter borough, 20 boys; Rochester, 19 or 20 ; Durham, 18 scholars —in all, 212 free scholars and 50 or 60 exhibitions at the two universities. Then the following four were bound to maintain scholars :—Chester, 24; Bristol, 24; Carlisle, 20, but two years age it had no school ; and Gloucester, 20. He next referred to the opinions of the counsel ; the Attorney- General and Mr. Lewis stating that the dean and chapter were bound out of the cathedral funds to provide for the maintenance of the different scholars in proportion to the other stipends, and declaring that desuetude would not re lease the dean and chapter from the original obligation as to making due and proportionate provision for the purpose of education. He would now state what the actual conduct of the Dean and Chapter of Rochester was in respect to the na ture of the trust confided to them. The sum of 53/. 6s. Bd. was allotted to the school in 1542, which in the present day would be worth sixteen times that amount, making, there fore, the sum of 853/. 6s. Bd. Bat the increased stipends amounted to thirty-four times the original amount. During the years 1833, 1834, 1835, 1836,1837, and 1838, the amounts paid out of the prodigiously increased revenues of the cathe dral institutions of Rochester were but 6/., 51., 51., 61., 31., 11., and 11. again, and in 1839 there was no school at all, the building having been taken down and the site sold. So that in that year there were no boys to receive any of the advan tages. Some time afterwards, in consequence of the comments of the press upon these facts. there was another school built. It appeared that daring the present century the Dean and Chapter of Rochester divided amongst themselves about 5,0031.. which had been given for educational pur poses. The Rev. Mr. Whiston published a pamphlet, entitled " Cathedral Trusts and their Fulfilment." And in con sequence of certain statements made by him in such work he was declared unworthy to be entrusted with the functions of head roaster of the Grammar School at Rochester. It was true that the Rev. Mr. Whiston, in mentioning these facts in his pamphlet, characterised their conduct as unbecoming any man, and still more a clergyman ; but he (Mr. Mowatt) submitted that the language was strictly applicable to the facts of which he treated. The Bishop of Rochester, when Dean of Worcester, it appeared, had allowed the rules ap pertaining to this grammar school to be set at naught in the way he had described. It was impossible for the Bishop to interfere on behalf of Mr. Whiston, without at the same time passing condemnation upon himself. Mr. Whiston made an appeal to the Bishop on behalf of the charity, and after an interval of 15 months he was told that he ought to go to Chancery. He then appealed to the public by the publication of the pamphlet referred to, upon which he was dismissed from his office of head master, Mr. Whiston then applied to the Court of Queen's Bench, and obtained a mandamus to restore him to his office. He was in hopes that they would have met him on the merits of the case, but the Dean and Chapter abstained from putting in their case, but met Mr. Whiston upon purely technical grounds — namely, that on his being dismissed he should have made an appeal to the Bishop as visitor in the first instance; and it was only in case of his refusal to reinstate him in his office he would be justified in going into the Queen's Bench. Now, Mr. Whiston was, comparatiyely speaking, a poi man,who they knew was unable to bear the heavy expenses of a law suit; and, acting upon that knowledge, they did not find it difficult to defeat him in his operations against them. The total amount of the endowments in 1542 was 547/. L' , s. 341; its present endowments amounted to upwards of 4,5001. The gross receipts as returned by the chapter on an average for several years, down to 1834, amounted to a very large sum for Canterbury. In 1542 there was expended on the school there 4201., being one-sixth of the total revenue, whereas in 1834 there was only expended about 1-164th part. The Hon. Gentleman having quoted at some length from the returns before him, for the purpose of showing hew these funds had been diverted from their original applica tion, and having referred to the oath taken by the dean and chapter, which was to observe all those ordinances and sta tutes passed in the reign of their founder Henry VIII., be then proceeded to contrast with them tho manner in which other trusts were observed. A prebendary of Canterbury asked Mr. Whiston what useful object did he hope to obtain from the publication of his pamphlet, for the exposure of such facts as were therein contained was calculated to do grievous injury to the Church. Upon. inquiry into the facts connected with this gentleman, it was found that from his prebendary income of Canterbury he received 1,0001. a year ; from the tithes of various parishes about 3,0001. a year; from a certain rectory, 6851. a year ; from the rectory of Cliffe, near Rochester, 1,3911, 10s. 10 1 ,d.; making in the whole 6,2171. ss. received by this prebendary of Canterbury. Tne statutes allowed these members of the Dean and Chapter of Rochester to hold one ecclesiastical benefice, provided such benefice was not more than 24 miles distant from Ro chester; but still three of these prebendaries held more than one benefice, some of which were more than 100 miles from Rochester, and the value of the livings held by the Dean and Chapter of that cathedral was 4,8301. ; the value of the revenue which they enjoyed in connexion with the Lepers' Hospital, 5,707/. ; and their patronage was 4,940/. one of these prebends of Rochester, who refused to augment the original allowance of 51.—and his was not the largest income—received 2,2511. 4s. sd. directly from the cathedral, and held a living worth from tithes alone 953/. 7s. ld. a year, and had received for the renewal of leases 3,0001. in a single year. He would not do any member of the Government the injustice of supposing that he would offer any resistance to his motion, but anticipated that his motion would be opposed by the Right Hon. Member for the Uni versity of Cambridge. But that Right Hon. Gentleman was the hired advocate of the abuses which would come within the cognizance of the Commission which he wished to have appointed. He received 1,000/. a year as one of the Eccle siastical Commissioners, and what were his duties? To come to that House aed st p the mouth of any inde pendent Member who might ask a question reflecting in the slightest degree on any part of the Church Establish rnent. Fur his own part, he had no object in making this motion but an honest conviction of its necessity. The State stood in loco parentis towards these schools, and Henry VIII. in founding cathe .ral bodies never intended to part with all control over such institutions. It might be urged by some that 12 or 13 grammar schools, more or less, could not have any great effect upon the education of the country; but on the other hand, he agreed with the Right Hon. Member for the U ;iversity of Oxford in thinking that incalcu:able ad vantages would flow from the existence in every cathedral town of the nucleus of a first-rate grammar school. The Hon. Member concluded by moving that an humble address be pre sented to her Majesty, praying that she will be graciously pleased to appoint a Commission to inquire into and report upon the a.balinistration of the educational trusts confided to the cathedral establishments of the kin _dom. The SOLICITOR GENERAL gave the Hon. Member full credit for the motives to which he had laid claim, but re gretted that the Hon. Member had not exercise t the same charity towards the Bishop, Dean, and Chapter of Rochester, mei the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for the University of Cambrid e e. The real questioa was, whether the House should go into a Committee of Supply ; and there were many who felt as strong an interest on the subject of education as the Hon. Member, but who nevertheless thought it more im portant, at this late period of the session, to proceed with supply.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member had rested his argument, from beginning to end, on the case of the Dean and Chapter of Rochester. He had undoubtedly mentioned others, but the whole of his speech, of more than two hours in length, with the exception of about 10 minutes, was de voted to the case of Mr. Whiston. Lie had known Mr. Whiston at college, and he had read his able work, in which he had certainly collected a great deal of useful information. He would not follow his Hon. Friend through all the refe• rences which he had made to that w rk. The great objec tion which he had to the motion was thatit was founded en tirely on a matter in the course of adjudication before a com petent tribunal; and though he had no doubt that he would conscientiously discharge his duty, still the Bishop, from a natural hesitation to decide grave legal questions, had called to his assistance one of the ablest of our judges, Mr. Baron Parke. Besides this he would have the official assistance of Dr. Lushington. Mr. Whiston's case was, therefore, in very good hands. But the state of the law and the position which the Legislature had assumed with regard to cathedral funds rendered this motion peculiarly inappropriate, irrespective of the period chosen for bringing it forward. Mr. Whis ton's book had given the fullest information on the .subject, so that there was nothing to inquire into. It might be a question whether it would not have been wise— he should have thought it very wise— to have taken care, when the distribution of the cathedral property was made, to have made some provision for education in connexion with the Church. But the Legislature had not taken that course. By the 3 and 4 Vic., c. 113, the incomes of the dean and every prebendary of every cathedral was fixed, and they had no longer any interest in the question, for the whole surplus was handed over to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners to be applied to the relief of spiritual destitution. The House might undoubtedly revoke its decision, but the ques tion was, whether it would be better to apply relief to spi ritual destitution or to the maintenance of grammar schools. This was debateable ground, and the House a few nights ago, in agreeing to an address to her Majesty, had shown no disposition to retrace its steps. He (the Solicitor-Ge neral) was sorry time did not allow him to enter into the observations which the Hon. Gentleman had made in refer ence to the attacks on private individuals which were con tained in the pamphlet. He entertained the most perfect respect for Mr. Whiston; but they all knew how easy it was for a person to be led into the use of strong expressions who took a one-sided view of a case; and, for his part, he, could only look on the pamphlet as the production of an ad vocate.— (Hear.) Mr. BERNAL said that his Non. Friend (Mr. Mowatt) had mixed up the case of Mr. Whiston with some very important matters; but lee would do him the justice of saying that he had used that case as an illustration of the more general subject, and only as a part of a whole. He agreed with the Solicitor-General that Mr. Whiston's case was now sub judice pendente lite. He (Mr. Bernal) deeply bewailed the facts which had been placed before the House. He regretted that these things should become matter of open scandal, for they prejudiced the 'benefits which ought to be derived from our old and excellent institutions; they dif fused a large degree of malevolent gossip throughout the land; they did no good to anybody whatever, and they excite i a universal feeling of disgust and contempt.—(Hear.) He had observed that Mr. Whiston's case was only a part of a general question, and that being pendente lite, it was not for the House of Commons now to pronounce judgment upon it. There were other equally important questions—that respecting the poor alumni and other things, which were touched upon but Blighty by his Right Hon. Friend. One point to which he wished to call the attention of the House was the reading which the Solicitor-General bad given them of The Act 3d and 4th Vic. If, as the Hon. and Learned Gentleman said, the deans and chapters had no funds with which to act, at once there was an estoppel put upon the question. But was he right in his constructio of the statute? Were the funds so completely removed from the control or the possibility of application on the part of the different ecclesiastical bodies? If the lion, and Learned Gentleman were co-rect, not another year should be per mitted to elapse before Parliament altered the provisions of that statute. —(He4r, hear.) He granted that the motion of his Hon. Friend had not been brought before the House in the best form; but certainly the points on which he had based kis motion were points of the greatest importance, and it behoved every and aly Government to give their most devoted attention to them.—(Hear, hear.) The time was come when it must not be left to the contingent chance of individual rooting out the real uses of a trust, but the Go vernment themselves were called upon imperatively to look into these matters. This was demanded by the spirit of the age; and if Government manifested some genial harmony with that spirit, they might proceed with safety, and effect great good. But if, on the other hand, they slumbered on —at one time defending the ecclesiastical bodies, and at other times carping at them for doing nothing—they would be laughed at out of doors, and by their apathy find torpor go far to pull down the bulwarks of the Church, and destroy that respect for religion which was inherent in the bosom of every Englishman.—(Hear. ) Mr. MILNES bore his testimony, the result of a long and intimate acquaintance with Mr. Whiston, to that gen tleman's ability and excellent character. If in his pamphlet Mr. Whiston had used any phrases which appeared to par take of unnecessary acerbity, Hon. Gentlemen should not forget that that pamphlet was published only as a last re source, and after every attempt had been made on his part to bring about what he conscientiously believed to be just by fair and courteous means ; and, secondly, that when sum moned before the chapter, he stated in the most positive way, that he extremely regretted any violent expressions which he might have used, and that he entirely disavowed any intention of injuring or insulting any member of that body.—(dear.) And he (Mr. Mines) could not but think that the chapter would have done greater justice to the re ligion they professed and the establishment to which they belonged, if they had treated Mr. Winston in a different spirit, and met his advances in another manner. If the case was as it had been stated by the Solicitor-General, then, indeed they had nothing whatever to do with the matter, and they would have had merely to refer Mr. Whiston to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, and to say that they would be extremely glad to dispose of a larger portion of the cathedral funds in favour of this educational establishment, but they were prevented by law from doing so. The fact was, however, he could not find that the dean and chapter had ever used that argument. On the contrary, so far from that, they had always, in their communication with Mr. Whiston, stated that the question of i ncreas i ng t h e ad vantages of his educational establishment was one to which they were not opposed, and to which they were perfectly willing to direct their attention. They never seemed to think for one moment that the case was out of their hands.--4 Hear , hear) There could be no doubt that the legal question had gone against Mr. Whiston—that the question whether these cathedral trustees were trustees in a legal sense or not had been decided against him; and his removal from the office of master was a secondary matter to that. Mr. Whiston had certainly failed; but that was no reason why, upon a representation of the case before the Hause of Commons, some remedy should not be applied to the difficulty.— certainly ( Hear, hear.) In asking for a Commis sion his Hon. Friend ( Mr. Mowatt) h a d d one n o more than circumstance s of the case fai r ly warran ted him in doing; vote went to a divi s i on h e (Mr. Milne° should Dean this and Ho us Chapter of Rochester , that it was the o p inion of with him. If the present debate w as followed by no o th er consequences, he trusted that , at the e y rate, it would re ac h t h e ears of that important body. s House that Mr. Whiston' case was deserving of at least very generous con sideration, and he didhopleiktehteoyezt o actulds ah eeth ov at e a it ll w su o s u p l i d eio b n e becoming in a great body of petty motives, personal feelings,_ personal pi que , or per sonal profit.—(Hear, hear.) He trusted tha t th ey wou l d see that they could not ao greater justice t o t h emselves than by even though p u tting the most le nient, it might not be a strictly just, interpretation upon the pest, and by retaining Mr. Whiston in the situation to which he had done so much honour, really confer honour upon themselves.—(Cheers.) Mr. ROUNDELL PALMER lamented that on occasions like that, when a gentleman brought forward a question affecting the Established Church, it should be deemed a fitting opportunity of introducing personal attacks upon in dividuals. The injustice was great, and in the present instance peculiarly so, for this reason. The offence imputed to the Dela and Chapter of Rochester was, that there being certain estates provided for other excellent purposes, as well as for the maintenance of the dean and chapter, they had suffered some of these purposes to remain in a state of decay, whilst others which were beneficial to themselves had been kept up.— (Hear.) Now what. he asked, could he more un just than making a practice which had endured for centuries the subject of attack upon individuals who might fill these fthis Pennparticular u ha d periodheen introduced? o rt ffi l L e i s be a r t ner and in a different spirit, with reference to the question l2 Ifthe involved in it—though he readily admitted there was m ati o„ thing acrimonious in the tone of the Honourable Gentleman remarks—(Hear)—if personal questions had not b .o 4 v e innloatiodniffeefretnht° issEll3; largely imported into the discussion, then he should h e must or It was and -, ubtedly a very large subjeet, and thought the Hon. Gentleman had dove considerab le service that the coarse, which the Legislature had taken in thematter y. -- of Church reform had been too much in the isa ture of a div er genes from the original destination of ChurCh P.sepert-. (Hear.) The cathedral bodies many of them derived largo wo uld incomes from the tithes of different parishes, and on„°' . ‘ stide , have thought that it was a plain obvious principle DlP,,,ese that when dealing with the surplus revenues of e s cathedrals these tithes should be restored to the par , 7 3o which paid them, t o p rov id e f o r the spiritual wants of t h parishes. He regretted to say, however, that that prineiP had been lost sight of in their Church reform, and had u°" , been recognised on the face of the Cathedral Act. It see nu r to him to be one of the most harsh and unjust things in t°6 world, for individuals out of doors, the public press, or Mein' hers of this House, to introduce a subject of this kind for ci consideration, in language which implied that wrong , been done by:individuals, and that their acts had been uncoil__ scientious, when they had merely abstained from taking LIP?n themselves the work of effecting an extensive reform by the restoration and revival of institutions decayed centuries D • fore they had anything to do with them. lie regretted that in writing his pamphlet, and throughout all his proceeding Mr. Whiston had not borne in mind what was due to duals by those who desired to reform abuses for the benefi t _ la of the public. Mr. Whiston might have done grea t good : the public without suffering injury himself if he bad 3 ,, e dressed himself either to the law affecting the case, or ssd expediency and policy of a reform of cathedral schools, a g e he ,Mr. Palmer) thought it was most to be regretted for _t sake of the Cathedral of Rochester and for the public , t n ; he should have done it by attacking individuals who wen after all, his superiors, to whom he was subordinate , ar, who could not but expect some degree of consideration the position they occupied as his superiors in the Church 0 England. Mr. HUME said he felt there was no ground for the CO, plaint of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had just!„ dressed the House, that those questions were brought set . % ward in the absence of the persons most deeply interested !LS them; for surely the Hor end Learned Gentleman con not man that such a dis.. •as that should be deferr% until the bishops and the S s .* and chapters should h a 's scats in that House. Those souses had, in many instanc i e e y continued for centuries ; but that circumstance only afforded an additional reason for their removal. His experience c 0; wince , him that there was no class of men more ana_ l °4 than clergymen to hold fast to every misapproprialieu s : Church property, by which they themselves benefited, nul y withstanding their appeals to others for liberal cotributt. to the purposes of the Church. It appeared to him that . 1 1 Whiston had been most unju s tly tre a t e d i n th a t matter, 1 1 3 that the deans and chapters had acted most unreasona bl y' It was time for the friends of the Church to attempt to ri form its abuses, in compliance with the general reeling ‘' d the public. Let a Commissien, such as his Hon. Frier', had suggested, be appointed to inquire into those abu s la and let the abuses be removed, and then the Church WC n st occupy a much safer position than that in which she wa s present placed. Lord J. R SSELL said he would not then enter into t 1 1 . 6. special case which had been brought under their notic e the Hon. Member for Pen rbyn (Mr. alowatt). But he wish.ed to say a few words on the general question which had ber 3t introduced into the discussion. The great object which s s, Ecclesiastical Commissioners, since their first a ppoint/ 0 , had had in view, was to provide for the spiritual destitu tl ; which existed in many parts of the country, in which population bad increased from ,0 0 or 1,500 persons,st° 40,00 or 50,000 persons. All the measures taken by.1:17. Commissioners had been directed to that obJ; although he would not undertake to say wh e s t sa s or not those measures had always been the hest cal rof lated to attain that end. They had taken large portio., of cathedral property, they had abolished sinecure re tories. and they had made other changes for the Pan of erecting and endowing new churches. That was, events, a clear and definite mode of proceeding. But et' ja persons would adopt a different course, and would retsiut a reformed shape, cathedral establishments. They won't! , fact, restore the cathedral system to what they concel y- t ; to have been its original purpose and condition. Now t h o lo too, was a perfectly intelligible proposal, and it was which had been supported with great ability in the press a° oo in that House, But when the House had come to a discus' o s upon the subject there had been but a very small amoinats votes in favour of that view of the question; and he belieT, that it had never received any extensive support in 5 , 6 country. He had only further to add that it that co w s. were pursued they should relinquish that object which U ste Ecclesiastical Commissioners and Parliament had hitlit; steadily kept in view, and they should altogether abann,ld their present mode of proceeding. He repeated that he f not mean to enter into the question whether the Deal an d b ; Chapter of Rochester had behaved properly or not in particular case which had been brought under their 0, °":„ sideration. That case would soon be heard, not only by . Bishop of the diocese, but also by Baron Parke; and un' it had been so heard he th oug ht it would be premature .on the part of the House of C ommons to pronounce any decision in the matter. cola Mr. HEYWOOD said he th oug ht th a t grammar scha ss had at least as good a right to be maintained as cathed . 2 establishments. Indeed, those latter establishments 0 0 ,! 1 :, not possibly be conducted, since the Reformation, in corut , mity with the wishes of their founders, while gramn i l t schools would be pr o d u ctive of the greatest national been if the prin c ipl es on w hi c h t h e y h a d b een es t a blished 10 7 steadily adhered to. Mr. MOWATT intimated that he would not press his In° tion to a division. The motion was accordingly neg a ti ve d w ithout a divist • SUPPLY—THE MISCELLANEOUS ESTIMATES The House then resolved itself into a Committee of stir ply, Mr. Bernal in the chair. A vote of 46,824/. having been proposed for the Brit Museum, Mr. HUME said that that was a large sum, but he no objection to make to it, as it was to be applied to a at 0 valuable national object. He wished to see the whole of tu t+ magnificent collection, and more especially the library,. vi ° o extensively thrown open to the public. The Commissic'ne who had inquired into the state of the Museum had rec° l 4 mended a change in the system of its management, a nd th,, instead of a committee of thirty individuals, it should managed by a small executive committee, whose menabr rs should be paid, and sho u ld b e i n di v id ua ll y respons ible ,V the trust committed t o th e i r care . H e ent i re l y approvensa that recommendation, and he hoped it would speedll9 "- carried into effec - . • Ai' Sir R. H. INGLIS said he believed there was no one inert, tution in which the people of this country took so much terest as in the British Museum, and that there was n; .ss which offered such striking marks of increasing poi:111 18 . 1 4 Forty years ago the number of readers had amounted to le only, and last year the number of readers had amounted„ 72,000. In the year 1835 the number of books in the b e ' rary had been 235,000, while they were at present, be sa e lieved, twice that number, or 470,003. Not less than 1,07 0,u 7i . persons had entered the Museum as visitors in the course v a a t year, while the number of visitors five years ago ha only been 680,000, and had only be e n 70,0 .0 in the Y° o 1810. And he could further state, that while the number:li visitors had so greatly increased their conduct had he beyond all praise.—( Hear, hear.) He believed' the libral of the Museum was at p resen t o p en d ur i ng a geode number of hours, and was accessible to a greater numb 4 of persons, than any similar establishment i n th e w or ld.. °'`f trusted that during the recess the Noble Lord at th e bead 0 . the Government would take into his consideration the in creasing wants of the establishment, a n d w o u ld g i v e his tention to the necessity of adding to the buildings. Mr. W. J. FOX suggested the opening of the British O r seum in the evening, as it would be useful to many yOll men, who would take advantage of the opportunity afford t o to them as students. This might be done with the duplin copies, now about 70,000 volumes, which could be distribut ° in rooms adjoining to the Museum. Mr. E WART supported the proposition of his gory Friend. In some places the libraries were open in O st evening. Even the Pope had such a library opened at nig h in Rome. Sir R. H. INGLIS observed that if the proposition wens/, adopeed it would require an additional staff. As fir a° experience went, it was seen that the numbers decreased at . the evening hours approached . He would wish to see tvr o • or three public libraries opened in other parts of Londoa• As to the duplicate Copies of books, many of them were in use at the same time ; and books specifically given to th e Museum could not to be transferred elsewhere. Mr. STANFORD, from ten years' experience, could 10 10 , testimony to the excellence o f accommo d a ti on , the a tten d ' ance, and attention of thosr engaged in the library of the Museum. The means at the disposal of the young men this metropolis of reading in a public library were less tha'" in other parts of Europe. He did not think there were more than 1,000 regular readers in the Museum at this tif s °' though the return s ma d e t h em appear much larg er . 11.° supported the proposition. Mr. M. MILNES complained of the state of ventilation in the library. A change had been recommended by the Corr , missioners in the constitution of the governing body. 0° wished to know from the Noble Lord whether that recorir mendation was to be carried into effect. Mr. SLANEY suggested to the Noble Lord to follow out the proposition of tue Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Inglis), of este' blishing several public libraries in the city of London. Mr. ANSTEY wished to know why the Home Office ha d the power of interfering in the management of the Museum' INGLISaII ow r e e d m t orskeeedmthaapts a t o h f e th d e o te m dw en a ts y. so as to prevent persons having access to maps. He referre d to a letter he bad r e ceived from a gentleman complaining be wouldsir k tOthe a ll u d e d 14) were co nsidered as setting f or th th e titl es o f th e C re st/ certa i n possessions, and w hi c h could not.t h erefore be shown ordJ. without the consent of the Crown. ~ L RUSSELL said that some of the suggestions/ °,I I the Commissioners were adopted by the trustees. He did, not think it advisable to adopt other parts of the reporr s The report itself was a most valuable document, and wod' ? from time to time influence the Government. As to an in; crease of the n um b er of libraries, he had, when the library 12` George 111. was given up by George IV., suggested, instead of placing it in the British Museum, it should be transferred," to a diff erent part of the town. The su bj ect, however, establishing other libraries was one that required COnl3l': deration. Mr. HUME said it was absolutely necessary to have small executive management board. The present constitu tion of the managing body was most objectionable. The sa' Lilies of the establishment amounted to 25,000. Lord J. RUSSELL said he found that there was a constant attendance of the most able men in the country at the meet' ings of the trustees. Amongst them were Mr. Hallam, UPI Macaulay, Mr. Goulburn, Sir D. Dandas, and Sir Robert" Inglis. air. HENLEY hoped that the trustees would take I nes' sures to have such information placed before them as would . enable them to judge of the number of individuals that . availed themselves of the advantages afforded them in the library of the institution. The N o ble Lord said he though'y it desirable that several public libraries should be este' blished throughout the country, but he had not applied him. self to the immediate question at issue, having been led aw ay from it by the observations which had fallen from the boa. Gentleman behind him. If the Get were, as the Hon' Member for Reading h a d s t ate d it, he .hought it very extra' ordinary that only 1,000 persons should have availed them' : selves of the benefits of this library. Sir R. H. INGLIS said that such a statement was incot' rect. The number of persons that used the library wee nearer to 40,e00, and the number of visitors exceeded 78, 000 within the last year. The least number of volumes furnished one day was 100. Mr. STANFORD said he was in the habit of using the library, and never found more there than 30 persons on an average, who were generally the same that he usually met there. He therefore felt himself justified in saying that be thought there were not more than 1,000 persons who availed themselves of the advantage of the reading-room. He be lieved that the 70,000 visitors alluded to by the Hon. Baronet vivre made up of the same persons that attended there del , after day. Air. HENLEY said if these statistics were kept he WO sure there would be no objection to inform them of the evict number of persons that frequented the place. „ 7 0,1 ( ain b. .Lor( Gentle be thin nature plied. THE SUN, LON DON, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 12, 1851. M ncli than Ilex i, 3,5 Est