The Sun. — London, England, 1850-02-05 00:00:00

do nothing Of the sort. The lendlordi! had 10-t by the ~) °li eY pursued in this country, and no doubt the farmers , ,l'ad also been severe losers, and so had the agricu:tara 'aboarers, Re was corvine, d, from his owe experience Il e " farmer, tha , if a great ch re. , ,e IN ere not speedily ,. c the whol4e aerieeleard intere.ae nould be speceily I nv , i t aysety, - - h ,' l r. 'WALE ob erved that the lion. Gentleman who ( ie lu just at down might have eejoyed the advantage d f "luch experience in the businevs at qua: ti.r sessions, an 1 '.... 4 °ti ler mettlrs which he had alluded te; but the I . lo e r s . L4iinber certainly did not understand the prineip o l n upo n which the busiress of this ceunt-y was carried .... Th at Pi es - • gPetleman seemed to know nothin of the prim . ' tt .Pen which Englishmen acted in the management ° their affairs. Surely, nothing could be more absurd th an , see; to 60 1) pose that stock could be taken at any ef the ee , a this country—the value of the machines and mad„ loonies precisely ascertained, and compensation ci - e * r ,'' t ? t.he m anufacturer fe• any real or supposed de& eY in his proßts. Nothing that ho had ev.-r heard li PPrar a , NI to him half so preposterous. As to the elliplifreialt.,'l., unwarrantable attack that had been . rnade h e all - ` 3 'ton. Friend the Member for the West Riding, lir,.ttrastcd that that gentleman would view it in its prer tr 4 , and treat it with the contempt that it deserved.l.r Pal th a t • i 1 , i 2 ,no mere ; but rate, pnot point ee should say urn, ..,,to.ctll back the attention of the House to the f rt . v "a monopoly was in e the e . th 8 country the rule,. and ‘o 111 e ,old a tning they scarcely hoed to live to ne .. t s rn t s h - e . I le look ba-k to tho lime toe monepAy w..., p o l y __ , and he rejoices, - tue l and - d intp e3 :" now derided even by the advocates of the landed th at ,: Tilt country gentlemen plainly told tho desired tethit;"°Y wanted no monopoly—that they_ a - Ail , g more than te be placed on terms cf equality 31:• dicir fellow -subjects. On the whele, such amt_ 4011:iwere eighiy sati,facteey, an d he c , uld not bet cuce ehieir,(!p that he was well pleased with the sp o araetwal";el_louse had heard from the mover of the ° Pini a ,,, ( I , and, though he could not agree with all the be would hot c_ expressed by that Hon. entloman, . resent e rhav y that the situation of theta rmers was .. a . t o p n im. Prey ed "e•torY; but every change from an ev. lll 2 some 40, 4 "3 stein could not fed to be attended with c e , d °I Mischief to one or other cf the . parties con- tle r a e o ' It unfortunately happened that in times past o.. ,itio_aurable Gentlemen would not listen to p . l w a 4 4 for eralually establishing free trade , , e they at lenp v , Put it off so long that they were ce ply obli ge d to take a leap, the consequencesless itt a ,,: l o ` e u_ hale , as they well knew, proved more or s . theeth et , L ; .", In the year 1829 he earnestly recommended . ._ the e e“) playd of the Extraordinary position in v . rhich " ra e “) T. e. as t ) the trade in corn, am 20 s pet : 'AY cn any duty you think proper ; make it Per .._ar(loar.ter, and reduce that duty by la. per 4(4! until it should cease altogether.' . ' Bu t such quarter ke g : I tl ll not in those days listened to, and in fu m ll . khe ° th en, ha d Only thirteen Members t )-support hi . trete as the however, daylight had been let in on the 110 a e eoutexy, and all that the country gentlemen With'ted w as to be placed upon tarms of equality kaki ka li e the i rs fslw-co untrymen. In that reasonab in ei W hich °use. There was no portion of our manufactures n earn A sa ere to enjoy prote - ,.tion now that the era . o e r i n, este, n'e,frce. Farmers were manufacturers of Res 4 ' " l 't vario us thereproductions of the land, and I t t et 24. s 41Tatil:faeturers who possessed , any claim to pre tigle e as of no use to talk about, the seat of land. t t lo d r worth 403, an acre. It might be worth 2 t O b s e . 1 °° ,, 4 tP41 ' t,, 111 V hateve r it was worth, the laedlord mus i . the i a - ee ta i ke. No doubt it was the duty . and the interest r lll4 wer "' (141 to see tl.at the various charges upon r el it, te eirlileed to the lowest possible point; but as to . „,Irtes‘ ere-44'1'0rd must take ei at he could get for his nati ee Not long.er ago than the year 1842, the depre- P;t)rove hooftpeuanl).ital amour ted had been inflamed, to 117,000,000/. That f the Justly the value of land , 3 . tt avr great Justly the depreciation the greater was the a elite), Cinstiee to the rest of the community. " w th Nao, 4 ? the rnover of the Address, that the loss to the !,„. 14; tr it e i., q et corn was at the rate of 91,000,0001. per ow ) .Ith, freq, rather, that the community gained that_nm. IP .f°r Gi 44 " 3 ission of f)re!gn corn. The Hon. Me tk e4 con rt tow bed estim ted it at 60,000,000/, and Mr. 17 t aXe s4 a tre pro nounced it to be equal to the whole of aye e et were le d wie l east i . Paid to the Crown.could law s ito,,ed ueseation in admitting ht No coollren thet Wand eontgjeet check to the prosperity of the country. Ilia i l) thie g p eel a manufacturing community, and half it ` l 3 , s o 13,eoPle of this country were manUfacturers, °tee eal,ece ett, et . tv a , iv , One portion of their roducts, no 44 4 11 IPott e 'PE for home consumption , and the !•ota, 3 44l ity o e ti m• .IsTo, there could be very little la r l 46rvs lo a n t ilts point, that the ref cal of the di se il ti ,y of t t l i s t have the effect of greatly promoting the . , el, e c ountry 7 4 1'ed aof t h iB ‘ .. li e w as glad r i that 6et i , a ge . ner p t for it a lit i l„ t 5 1, 4)1 ~_ qaeatton had been p tho 4,4,1 sh irked 'l4 some of the Members on the other -.or` eel til lers the real - question. d i tag. ti},Piece on the subject a the Address upon to it , ti g ‘t, must say that he had listened to that li '', t 1 1 011 ~1111141 pl-asure, and he was sure that the ) , :v it w..ii'lber 1 .e. Tarnworth must likewise have i„tuNredlle, satitfstien. Before he sat down, however, the , (4 t Q l 1 11 ,!;t 1 s oelltelpress a wish f .r some information as to tat e ' t.tcativ fearovern went respecting the present . state tteatlitiori re4a,dehize.. They had . al . rea t d b y ey rec h e a i d ved h s a o d x a e 6 4 , tie I ) , , • Ing foreign affairs— thia'l%ther u i.' t given them about the affairs of Italy, tf l t t) at ; OUp ongary; ho nsaated to knowabout some tliell)k ah' ° , II P affair s at home; they had been told ,t.ealitPpotta:e4(; set edial condition of the measures, or about any measure time 1 . 'eh r°4Pect;tvg the internal con 41: 4 th q e keizb ,41r4 arse ers of the Government gave ten . "`Q't • Te e ~lon to foreign that they did to domestic i l te wa ' ll uble Lord at the head of the Govern sele . 3 41V, ts ar 4t ive aware of the defects i s e n , of th e the Noble Lord must also be on the t i 14 , 1" Tete-a a nxiety which prevailed on would ie ') b e ciT Public expected that som-r which, tie') be sp,,;_' l l, not rnere'y as regarded Ireland, but as re :hieZt thi i e4e'leg, had no representation at all, II 8;11.,he ere•ovpliitrY. ll° did think thatt n h r e d s e i r t i u y at h io a n bi i t n s , - kt e , ni s - • e were placed—that their il '' () o 4.41 to 'ere i 'tled them to then, that tit:14110 been in the .Speech of the Royal Conie . t ql lti li t 41111s iell to any extension of the stiffrage f i , n r je,„,,nit shr) soy Plan for removing I,l444!ttarel.,,tl;°alin,Con in that House, and placing the class legisl. tion, i e . 1„1- IT - I , oa in the 1 d f those who ought top°, 1'1.16'1 op ,i;(1 hoPe'the'an that si some explanation would ''qt ' r *0414'1" PGint, a n tpi that the inquiries of the e ftetOtllk, 444 a satisfactory answer. The . No r_ 1 1 4 de's ie „ e ve he could not be ignorant or, the lave 44;41114r Oeetive s ystem—they certainly were such t e l Ma•e le a reform he Parliament, with a view to a a 1 , 44 4 ) % n r 'otito- resent of the people. .Nothing tr w y ou o li r l g w i o v u e ld I k o re tf , , 0 educ atiamou nt his coue s L II • 1 ' e 4 ttre " „ Le ssen the cf crime than such 1 14 e s • *(10 Was much gratified with the cot- N %.4 -4t3' ' 1 1 4 e of her Mojest .'s speech :—" It is h . e i r t ':, hy pc'Pe and belit f that b ) y combining liberty wita I%it,atiloilltiaer:::7::,4l6 what is valuable, ‘,,A➢ Pei% ti, Pil will sustain the fabric of our m end amendt . ng 1,,,;4111Lrt,1519..,>` a i rde L and the shelter of snore tfhraene this,and „ begs„ 0 asked for nothing nio rho' not a sin 1 • dividual sitting upon the til t 1 , nip?. e hit ©t he g it?. ll . l . n; + l tp . ' aituhterial) who was lee t tr a a w s a te r c e i e at : : Love stat of the representation. I . e lif4 th lt)l4 to 4 would tellthe House whether it was his e Ni e' is l e Propos ' of Parliamentary Ro ° l : 6 pr,,, - ', O pr tse e t any extension t take away the 1 1 1 1 11 1.47‘ a, ii ; 'e d (l ie ti f . iilll-0 sensosreiclin'atsioenaso it,eD,o, h e (4 n o the lair Majesty's Ministers to go ° Members of this li i t' l th P ,L e, zitia had me) f utile) did. For himself, he trusted 4 14 ip1: Would ~ ound that if you . distrusted man th°Ple , q pl., eulatrust you. He maintained that the tt4et'inoiedi")o oustitution of this country was that the i t tl : tti n Lem ~t h e root of all power. He would ask -I I W. 1. len--seei that the defects of the repre Ais e i a,, e ,, -* 60 clear] seeing • d b every one, himself ‘ taillte ee "4 th at th Y a 9:lute b7tlqrt,.. Ilte tt _ .o People were so anxious to have tqh t!1 !eradiate m' ther any changes in the nature of 0 0 - f k t 1 ' t h g.t een,nt were contemplated by te e of qllld testr, OrteitY with the concluding passage kr:„ .l he clll s tli tler' t t ee ch ? He wished the Fr N i oabyl night.ord Pe 4 091% ,: 'Peech he made on d t e e 4 di, " the necessity of removing All just !tDit 0 4 41 al a i ant rti the best mode of preserving the t. ry al.. ataitiing ti,, institutions i f this country,. , 41 411.':1 : 11 1i °4 t u r o ' .nt tonth used by the Noble Lord . would 41 la. )a 1:1:11Y the % tile r th' t 44 a tree ' necessity ° t,u/nent to the tee a ( , t e kepi cans of giving• oo f t granting reform (Mr. Hume) 1,4, mint e04,,,,i ,e. --(Rear, hear.) He v • of . 1 1: 111 e , p tI t t Y eat4lftnu himself that a large portion het k / tti r tI P te k eepL'llinnt during the last two years had It 4 1.,-avo4l) down our people at home.—(Hear.) t 4 43 ' 1 e P i r4 hat e c i t 0 the ,principles of the Charter, ‘l,l")ortiiell he4-titu Jiolent attempts made to carry t e ,,, tt ti ,q, to keepoutiged the Government to resort I)3 4 ' ,. t ''Y 41"e441 down the Oealamd that existed wito4,. ,ti4rese,i).t.,,in favour of improved Parlia- I 's 14 th 34 ses "'le", particularly among the la tleh to l-4 t't the Noble Lord place them ON 1 4ii te ,e t f tt ‘ ro?"---.(111.000,0so'T 0 2nstitution, and net restrict the tl l , , s otta lt ,, a r, 4 , u, instead of 6,000,000 or 7,000 . ,000 Ul ‘4€l4l,4°tier:'",,r.) Her Majesty's Speech centamt d /4 1e ' ,,, 41., hee r rnt et)i. sanitary measures, and he trusted tax 1h ml. t , tif--whi.kre shout to remit the window ta, ee'l t ae (~..? h eal was admitted to be the greatest •eoe i 41 44 - I ' l3 h et-: a nd conaf at r f the worhing classes ter airy fe te tho ~ '4% indeed a mockery for the Gover.n air e t . FoOr,l , ,lly ',, 1 V4„ 41 14 4 , r a tnroughout the country to raise ~,gle „°' ob t ") ll' th l 4 , nd to recommend them to get bet ti, '°lor itlttliee f resh le gislation, they shut out the best t, N I `si sy it.eBll • (11 ) With respect to , wt h () h i , St qul , air.-- ear. ' i le,, lti tai r , l / 4 1 m u , ' the whole of it must be changed . . Iviii i i eh ' 1 : ate i: Possess the means of managing their ti k to s ' lll. den ell th'lY persons called upon to pay I 'tii Otai 8 ' l'ho ho were now un 11ke (4 4 •cA grtlte Sew pr - Bei t . eo, w en ' i l l., ll d t'a plea:* themselves under the . ' li it l4tp .4° l'era,„ - '"f our colonies obtained the privi t'altes e -11l cee,;_ent, be induced to go and settle N4lat or c ttion 4 111 g to the United States of America. q4iB 1 l'afi, ow. 0.14 military force was kept up for the o,3rße pepc:Plet's and the Government might re ftie,e j:` in ee ` t en of our military strength by an q (4 , (11 11 4 , "I' oolo e i 1 Ho trusted the I t y tts, otee be i ti system. . h e 'l'. MINI:Iee aole at once to give the House sa p, re. 411, a 11on these subjects. e l'lt y Ponta ~,,, 4./si had info' i vil or t , ,qiet,. IT,„ beard with great satisfaction 'l4qt'4l te t43 eoite,vri M embers had given of the pros hle/, the c ont t d be only regretted that Ire t, 4 40 4 Pl'eut,t:rT, as the nouse had already been til q , to kC'(l.l t . ' at the present moment a picture of 0, 1) k e., 6 from tit ) The li 1 I tel - - 'le 4 hj h on ; Member (Mr. Villiers), tx, k d ( h. ess g authort, told She House, on ttFi(4l4l qft)l3, 044 ,thrit Ireland, if properly cultivate 1 , e r ' 1 44, 1 11 that tkc,ll°t orly . for herself, but for Englanl• (~,k l ot ~Ass i,.,.. condition of the labouring classes ct%_to llttlA "4PrOVed i s qii 11411,' or nothi ' bec ause they could get every , e hub `.4othiee, , e.g. But they had not the " lit.. 1k erd• .int e 6 °, the ~ 1 ,- , 4 ha l I tht j °O us: ~ • nt-) .t lag. '--(A laugh. ti 4 R 11,) ' a felix t i. u is enini Regal? et tamers, ll id 4 4 lie ot ntu nil" ee ta ~ Must sa .„ , 4 Iroul the Fee Lie h ad never b e li eved half that e-tNlers—(Cheers from the P‘ h, THE Prc#setionists)—and if Honourable Members would do him the justice t look over the division list, they would not find his name in favour of that measure.—(Cries of " Heir, hear.") He knew the character of British nereeverance. Voltsiro said of the people of this country, that they were des yens fiers tt kardis, and the agricultural classes might be able to overcome their present difficultiea but free trade must be carried out. Ho had received from abretel a letter from a friend who could not drink British port, and who was in the habit of getting over a cask of foreign wine. Weil, that wine pajd 5/. duty, and his friend wanted to know how, with free oak, ho was to pay for that German wine? Wed, another friend received some Sicilian wine, which cost 22/. in that country, and for which he paid 15/. duty.— (Hear, hear.) Let there be free trade entirely or not at all.—Hear, hear.) If au Irish Member should prefer his native wine, and bring over a gallon of whitey with him—(A laugh)—to Liverpool, he was liable to a penalty of 1001. Hero was fine trade in spirits:l The very best whisky in the world was at this moment in the Liverpool Custom-house, where it had been lying for 30 years.—(Much laughter, arising from the unctious tone ' and relish with which the Hon. Member indulged in this reminiseeace.) If an Irish Member brought over a pun cheon of spirits, and left it at Liverpool while he came to town for the session—(tt laugh) —tie foand on his return tiett a quarter of it had leaflet away. He w3e willing to pay the duty for the three-quarters left, but the Custom house officer made him pay fur the whole puncheon, " be cause it was free trade." He had had it from Sir John Newport, that Lord Castlereagh once told hien at the time of the Union, that he had get from Mr. Piet the gra Vest boon that Ireland had ever received—viz., fie privi!e,;ar f exporting her whisky to this country free. But that intention had never been carried out, and Irish whisky was taxed to protect the Wr st India interest. —(Hear.) Yes, but let them not impose upon the Irish people by talking of free trade.—(Hear, hear.) Lish exports had diminished in every single arecle, even in that of the whisky exported to foreign parts. Then what was the state of the Irish reveauc? It lad gone down more than one-half. In 1817 the revenue seas 7,000,0001., and now it had decreased to 3,968,000/. What did Gentlemen mean to do in that case? They were giving lecs.l governments to other parts of her Majesty's dominions, and compelling them to attend on the spot to their own affairs? but would those Gen tlemen who were most clamorous in behalf of these places extend the tame privilerte to Ireland?—(Hear, hear.) Would they tell Irish Me - nbers to go home and mind their own business? No; on the contrary, they kept them there for six months listening to long ha rangues about Ireland, and when they w cut back to their respective neighbourhoods they found matters in the same state in which they left them, and, indeed, generally worse.—(Hear, hear.) Look at the corn ex ports from Ireland. The annual value of corn exported used to be 2,000,0004 but now there was not more corn in all Ireland than of the value of 14,000,000/. They bad nothing to export, and the country was lying like a lifeless block on ttte western waves, unassisted by those who were bound to stretch out a helping hand.—(Hear, hear.) In 1792 there was exported 90,000,000 yards of linen, and now they were told by the Hon. Member for Rochdale—as a proof of prosperity—that Ireland exported last year 87,000,000 yards of linen. So much for the linen trade. —(Hear.) They were told that it was their duty to assist the poor-law by employing the people; but how could they do so when they got nothing fir their produce for the turnips, the carrots, the mangold wurzsl, &c., which the lecturers who were sent about the country encouraged them to grow.—(Hear, hear.) .He knew an individual who employed 3,000 persons in 1846, 4,000 in 1847, and who at present employed only 900. The holders of the land were unable to employ the people, who were accordingly to be found standing in the vil lages and by the road sides begging for work, The question connected with the poor-law amounted to this —not, whether the property of Ireland should support its poverty, but whether tee little property remaining could support the great mass of the people in idleness,—(Hear, hear.) The workhouses were becomirg a pet to so ciety, and should b 3 levelled with the ground. Chil dren of the tenderest years were associated with grown-up people of the worst character, and he had no hesitation is saying that morality was sapped in the union-houses cf Ireland. If ho was correctly in formed, there was an atrocious syttnn going or, by which women were brought from one of the workhouses of his country to supply houses of an improper descrip tion in England.—(Hear.) Ireland had, indeed, been ruined by misgovernment, her trade had teen destroyed, her debt enormously increased, an army was sent to keep down her discontented people; and when Ireland was beggared they r e pr oac h e d h er w i t h a l wa y s as ki ng charity. He would tell then,, however, they wanted no charity; they despised their charity; but give them the means and the power, and tt ey could raise money in Ireland as well as they could do in Leadenhall street.— (Hear, and a laugh.) He would now give one word of adv.ca to the lion. Gentleman opposite, the Member fir the West Riding of Yorkshire. He would tell him that the worst course a man could pursue was to attempt to advance his cause by calumny and abuse.—(Hear, hear.) He would advise him the next time he spoke about the landlords of Ireland, net to allow himself to be libelled by having put into bis mouth the most foul and monstrous attaiks that ever were made upon any body of men.—(Hear, hear) Ise was prostituting his talents by going about in this way from post to pillar to abuse the few remaining landlords who were endeavour ing to rescue Ireland from the misery in which it had been placed by the policy of their predecessors.—(Bear, hear.) If be thought he would propitiate the favour of the party with whom he was now associated by slander ing the few propriet trs who were doing their duty in Ireland, he would tell him that he was mistaken, for he might depend upon it they would, in the end, cut his throat just as (so we understood the Hon. Gentleman) they would cut the throats of the Irish landlords. —( hear, hear, and laughter.) The Hon. Member for Manchester had spoken of the Irish landlords as being universally despised, but he denied the truth of that as sertion. There might be landlords who had acted un justly and harshly, but was a whole body of gentlemen to be condemned for the misconduct of a few ?—(Hear, heat.) Tho HOD. Gentleman then read extracts from several letters addressed by Protestant clergymen in Ireland to a society established in Dublin, for the pur pose of showing the extreme distress to which they had been reduced. Ono clergyman wrote to the eft . ..et that he bad four children, but he hod received no income for the last two years; an other expressed his gratitude for a donation of 51. which he had received, and stated that he had only got 411. to live on, with his ten children; a third, also with ten children, in addition to the two orphans of a brother clergyman, who died of fever, had been long without tasting animal food, though he hed had his tea, and when he wrote had neither food nor money in his pits ar, hear.) What did they mean to do with Ireland? When Lord Althorp was Minister, he (Mr. Grattan) advised him to sell the ccuntry and get rid of her. They were then told by Sir J. Yorke that she ought to be sunk below the sea; and now they were Old that they were beggars; but give them back their money, give them back their absentees, end they would no longer be open to that reproach. By a Parliamentary paper it appeared that no less than 275,000/. of Crown rents and quit rents had been taken away from Ire'and, and ex pended for the benefit of England, while a number of Irish Protestant clergymen were left to linger in a state of starvation. No less than 700 verdicts had been re turned of " Died by starvation," in the west of Ireland within a very short period; and what had become of their remains? The people were obliged to beat away the dogs from eating the entrails of those miserable and starving paupers. For such things as these the mem bers of the Government deserved not merely to be called to the bar of that House, but they ought at once to be brought to the block. Mr. P. HOWARD had seen with satisfaction that her Majesty's Ministers proposed to extend the now contracted limits of the Irish constituency. Ho felt it would be most satisfactory to the pe iple of this country if the Noble Lord at the head of the Government would take some step at this time of profound peace to extend the limits of English representation. The people:by their loyalty and orderly behaviour eese eetitled to the elective franchise; and he was of opinion that house hold suffrage might be conceded to theme with perfect safety, and that they would duly appreciate the mea sure. Should the Government not bring forward any proposition of that nature, he begged t give notice that he should take an early opportunity of endeavour ing to forward his own views on the subject. Mr. BENNE r would not have troub!ed the House but for several misrepresentations on the part of the Hon. Mover of the Address (Mr. Villiers) respecting the condition of the labouring classes of this country. That Hon. Gentleman had stated that the labourers even in the agricultural districts had never been better off, either as regarded wages or employmetet, than they were at this moment. He (Mr. Bennet) denied the fact as to their having more wages; on the contrary, their wages wero greatly reduced; and with respect to employment, he was sorry to say teat a Et! e.t number of able-bodied labourers in West Suffolk were altogether out of work, while others received reduced wages, or were employed only fur a portion of every week. 'rhea wages were 75., and is some cases only 6s : a week. Bun he repeated, great numbers of able-bodied men were in the union houses, and in many unions these men had become unmanageable. He begged to ale the Right lion. Secretary for the Home Department whether he had received any information as to the military being obliged to be called out to aid the civil power in the unions of Rougham (as we understood) and of New market, in the county cf Suffolk? Sir G. GREY was understood to say that no such information had been communicated to the Home office. Mr. BENNE r said that such disturbances had occurred, and he thought the eircumstarsee would have been communicated to the Right Hon. Baronet. With respect to the ability of the English farmer to compete with foreigners, no doubt he could do so if he were placed on a level with the rest of the community by having all those local taxes which now so peculiarly pressed upon him repi aled. The malt-tax, also, which operated as a burden equal to a charge from 31. to 41. an acre, must be remov e d, i n ord e r to pl ac e the former in a fair position. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by ex pressing his regret that the agricultural labourers had not been mentioned in the Speech from the Throne, as well as the owners and occupiers of land. Colonel SIBTHDRP had felt extremely anxious to speak the other evening, because he had had the honour of seconding a resolution at one of the most important public meetings that had ever been held in Lincolnshire. There were from 15,000 to 20,000 men assembled at that meeting. He had thought it fair to put a question to one of the most earnest opponents cf the landed inte rest in that county—he meant Mr. John Nort an, mercer and draper of the city of Lincoln. He asked th a t gen tleman," What sort of a meeting do you think we have had to-day ? " His reply war, "An excellent one." "Do you not think that you are dead beat? " his answer was " Decidedly." "Did you ever Bee a more SUN, inauential meeting?" He replied, " Never in my life." This he (Colenel Sibthorp) considered most satisfaetory, coming, as it did, from so strong an opponent. Mr. Norton told him that the lion. Member fur the West Riding had come down to Lincoln on Tuesday. He (Colonel Sibthorp) presumed that it is as not on any secret matters; that there was nothing going on clausis Arcs. But why was he not at the meeting? If he c o uld not have appeared as a freeholder of the county, there was another opportunity given him for arguing the question of free trade; a meeting was held in the city of Lincoln where every one would have been at liberty to speak. He, however, came not, but pre ferred emplo3ing himself, like some quack doctor, its disseminating little tracts by which he hoped to poison the minds of the inhabitants; but he did not succeed. The other night, indeed, the Hon. Gentleman challenged the Hon. Member for Buukinghamshire to come forward and enter into the question as to the state of the agri culturist., or rather, he should say, of tefve industry; but as that Hon. Member had given notice of emotion to the same effect it would have been wrong for him to have entered upon the subject then.—(" No, nu!" " The notice was about the poor-law.") He should like to have added t) the amendment a declaration that the House of Commons, as at preterit constit i:el, was inefficient to e -.act laws which would tend to benefit the couutry or to carry out m re s..t . efecotily the administration of its affairs. With respect t pro& cfien to native industry, he was afraid there was very little hope.—(Hear.) While he saw so many a isociafions formed, there was little chance for Fret ction. There was tl e National Reform Asscciation—what a society !—a sort of Anti- Corn-law League revived—small is numbere, but fx ceedingly deceitful and treacherous.—(A laugh). Then there was the Anti-Peace Society—(Great laughter)— he meant the Peale Society.—(Laughter). Oh! slips went f it. nothing. Well, those he called revolutionary societies; but then there was the Commission for the grand Exposition in 1851; and who patronized it? He was sorry to :ay these who ought not to do so. Foreigners would carry off the premiums out of English purse.. Perhaps some of the secret service money might go t swards them, end he was not prepared to say that it would not—every trick would bo tried. He had looked over the list c f commissioners, and ho did not see much to give him confidence in the profection of native industry. First, he saw "our right trusty and well beloved Councillor" the Right Hon. Member far Tam wortb, and then our " trusty and well-beloved" the Hon. Member for the West Riding.—(Laughter.) It such were to be the component parts of the Commission, he could only augur, for experience had made him wise, that there would be nothing but trick and maeoauvre— native industry would be forgotten, and the foreigner would be encouraged too much, as lad been, in this metropolis and elsewhere—outwitting, if he could, and outselling the hard-working people of this country. But then there was the Emigratern of Females Society.— (Hear, hear.) Ho was sorry to use such a term, but that society was a premium for whoredom and nothing else.—(" Hear, hear," and a laugh.) If they gave them employment here, by putting a duty on foreign articles so as to enable them to compete with the foreigner, it would do them some good. He did not place much rel'a,nce on the apparent prosperity referred to by his Honourable Relative. A man might have 5,0001. at his banker's on Thursday night, but if he paid his debts -he might find that he had nothing there on Friday morning. Accounts might be arranged so as to present a favourable appearance; he had hoard of such things, and such things might hap pen again. Orders might be given for 50,000/. or 60,000/. worth of timber to be sent to a dockyard, but you might not hear of payment until it was convenient, and then when it was put into the account it was mentioned as a small item. He believed that at that moment items were put into the accounts to suit various party purposes. His Right Hon. Relative spoke of the Excise as being in a thriving state; but he believed that there were mis statements and misrepre,entations about it.—(hear, h , ar.) The most favourable period, from the 10th of October to the sth of January, was taken; but he be lieved that if the statements were analysed and scruti lilted the fact would not be found to be as stated. Of port wino would give an increase of Price without ge'ting anything for it in return ?—(Hear.) Viscount BERNARD denied that free trade had done anything to improve tie condition of Ireland, as alleged by the Hoe. Member fa- Limerick. He also denied the assertion of that Hoe. Member, that the recent protec tion meetings in that country had hsd the mischievous effact of setting class against class, and also in prevent ing the cultivation of the soil. These meetings were attended by persons belonging to various classes, and they were invariably told cot to trust to protection alone but to rely mainly on their own exertions.—(Hear, hear.) He suggested that the:Government would assist materially in alleviating the prevailing distress in Ire land if they were to extend the time for making repay ment of the advances which . had been made to that country under the Temporary Relief Act, &c., by fa. cilitating the construction of railwayP, and employing the able-bodied poor on public works. He warned the House azainst the danger of depending on foreign coun tries for any large supply c f their daily food, and eon clitelei by saying that, if the farmers were to have no pro'o.tion in the shape of duties upon fore'gu corn, he hoped the House would at least do them the common justice of relieving them of the burdens which had been imposed upon them in consequence of their having ei. joye.l protection.—(Hear, hear.) Colonel DUNNE expressed his surprise at ba,virg heard the Hon. Member for Limerick assert that Ire land had not been injured by recent legislation—seeing that that Hon. Member had recently d. awn up an ela borate report with reference to the Newcastle union, in which he had proved, in the clearest manner, that the country ha I suffered from recent legislation. Mr. M.ONSELL said he had referred to recent com mercial le,zislation. Colonel - DUNNE, in continuation, said he would give no opinion as to whether free trade in the abstract was right or not, but there could l e little doubt c f the tact that it had infixted injury un Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) The principal advantage which the Irish farmer had gained from protection was the possession of the English market; and, considering that the Legislature had de stroyed Irish manufactures on the express understanding that Ireland was to find food for England, England was to supply them with manufacture, he thought that that formed a special case in their favour for the conti nuance of protection. There could be no question but that, viewing the country altogether, it was in a gradually sinking condition. 'Look, for example, at the savings banks. In 1845, the deposits in the Irish savings banks amounted to 2,927,0001.; in 1848 they had fallen to 1,334,296/. In 1845 the circulation in Ireland was 6,544,0001.; in 1848 it had fallen to 3,311,0001. In 1847 the land in cultivation in Ireland represented in value 16,500,0004; in 1848 it had fallen to 12,500,0001. As to the poor-law, it might be true that the number of recipients had somewhat diminished, but the expense had not been reduced. The manage ment of the poor-law authorities remained as costly as ever. trade, followed in his wake, and in Spain an imposition of an additional duty on the exports of this country. — (Hear, hear.) In regard to Greece, he understood that the people of Manchester were very much startled et the intelligence received from that quarter. He was astonished that so trifling and trumpery an effeir as that mentioned by the Noble Lord at the hea 1 of the Foreign office that evening, in reply to the Honourable Member for Sheffield, should have given rise to any differences with that power. It was gross mismanagemement to allow such paltry causes to produce such results; and he candidly avowed that he thought the time was now come when they could with propriety consider the reduction f the salaries, or of the number of their Ministers at Foreign Courts.—(Hear, hear.) He thought, without . compromising the dignity of the country, such might be done. The expenditure he would stand up against re ducing was that which tended to the maintenance of their power and dignity s t home, and that, he trust - al, would always be maintained in a manner honourable to the country, and calculated t o p ro mote its best in terests. Mr. SPOON ER would have b een per f ec tly con te n t t o have given a silent vote on the question, if ho bad not bsen repeatedly alluded to by the Chancellor of the Ex chequer and by the Hon. Mover of the Address, and been called upon by them to say why it was that his prophecies, as t i the effect of tce trade upon the cur eacy, had not been fultilled. He would answer the ques tion without making what was called a " currency speech." He was aware of the impropriety off ircing his pert' cuter views upon the topic, when he had so small a minority with him in that House. But the question wa., why had not the imports of foreign goods drained our bullion, as he and those who held his views had predicted. There were many causes w h y . T he first was, the pe riodical influx of gold i n t o th is country, caused by a pe riod of low prices for commod i ties. He lookel with alarm at the prospect before-use The abundance of gold would promote over-speculation; money would be abundant only for a su ffi c i ent time to sot enter prise at work, without giving time for it to return legi timate profits. Since 1819 we h ad had those period i cal al ternations• and . they would come again, altogether irre spective of free trade. Anoth er cause was the state o f the Continent for the last two or three years, which had induced a great . flow of gold i n t o th i s country. I n Bel gium our sovereigns had been made a legal tender, but they were now almost entirely withdrawn from circula tion, and sent to this country to the extent of two er three millions. All these causes contributed to produce the infl ax of bullion to its present extent of nearly twenty millions. Another cause might also be meh tioned, which had acted to a large extent, namely, the number of English travellers who now spent money at home rather than upon the Continent. These causes were, in his opinion, quite sufficient to account for the non-fulfilment of the prophecy alluded te. But let a demand for bullion arise on the Continent, or a profit be obtained by . its withdrawal in consequence of a rise in prices, and they would soon find on what an insecure and unstable founda tion their system rested. With respect to another pro • phecy, it had been asked why the repeal of the corn laws had not immediately injured the manufacturer s , as was predicted ? He had never said so. But wh a t h e said was, that it would injure them ultimately. For, instead of those dependent on manufactures being two thirds of the whole population, as was stated . by the Hon. Member for Montrose, and the agriculturists only one third, the contrary was the case. If, then, this large proportion suffered from the change, the home market would necessarily fall off, and by consequence the manu facturer would suffer less. He could not but repeat his decided condemnation of any system of legislation which rendered us dependent upon foreign countries for the necessaries of life, instead of mere comforts or luxuries. On that point he would content himself with quoting the powerful language of the Right . Hon. Baronet f rom whom he learned the opinions he still retained,. though the Right Hon. Baronet had changed his.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Member laidfor Tamworth had,. in for which he (Mr. Spooner) now contended. The Right Hon. Baronet then said, " Looking then at the . question 1842, power fully and distinctly down the principle from this point of view, I reta;n rny opinion, which . I expressed some time ago, that it is of the . utmost im portance to this country that you should be independent of foreign supply.—(Hear, hear.) By this I do interests, not mean absolute independence, for that, perhaps, is im possible, and looking to other nothing would be more injurious to this country than for it to pass such laws as would give rise to the opinion that it was in tended to assume such an absolute independence. But, speaking generally, in a country where the labourer sub sisted mainly on wheat, t resort to a foreign country for supplies, is to make that country entirely dependent upon those supplies, ritzier than to support the workman by our own." lie (Mr. Spooner) believed these opi nions to be as true and as of great importance as they were at the time they were uttered. The Right Hon. Baronet bad changed his views, and he for one, did not deny his right to do so, or the right o f any ot h er person, when conscientiously convinced that he had been wrong. But all that had since transpired—all that was now passing around them, proved the truth:and the vast impel tance e f the principle, that we ought to maintain an independence of foreign markets for the surply of the necessaries of life. Why had they the aloinaly of untilled fields and unemployel Isbour at the present moment? Because they had admitted the un taxed produce of the foreigner to open competition with the labour of our own highly-taxed people. The result must be to throw the land out of cultivation, and to re duce this country to the state which Ireland was now ie--(Hear, hear, if this were a mere question of rent, he would not advocate it, It was because he be`ievcd it was a question of labour, and labour only, that he entertained it, an d ho warned Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, the Noble Lord the Member for Bandon had spoken of the different pay ment; made on account of former advances to railways in Ireland, and suggested that they should be consoli dated. That question had been for some time under the consideration of the Government, and he hoped that on a very early day his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be able t.; state the proposition which the Government intended to make. With regard to the wish which the Noble Lord had expressed that further assistance should be given to those rail ways, ho hoped the Noble Lord would not forget that not only had there been the advance he bad mentioned, lately made by the Exchequer Loan Commissioners, but likewise with respect to the trunk lines, both in the south, south-west, and west, there bai been schemes proposed to Parliament, and now carried into effect, for the formation of lines to Athlone and Galway, and to Drogheda and Armagh. In the present state of the north of Ireland, with the prosperity experienced by Belfast and the neighbour hood, there would be no difficulty in completing the lines which they had been told last year it was de sirable that the Government should undertake. As regarded the general state of Ireland, no doubt there would be other opportunities presented to them of dis cussing that question. In respect to the statement of the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last, that though there had been a diminution of the numbers relieved under the poor-law in Ireland, there had been no dimi nution in the expenses, he begged to state that this was an error. Ile believed the difference of expense for last December, as compared with December of the former yea., was nearer 60,0001. than any other sum. Comparing the sth of January, 1849, with the sth Ja nuary, 1850, he found the decrerve of expenditure was upwards of 9,0001. The Hon. Member for Montrose (Mr. Hume), who spoke early in the evening, addressed several observations to him on the subject of the exten sion of the franchise in this country. He would not enter into argument, or give any reasons on the subject at the present moment, as his Hon. Friend had left the House, but would merely state that it was not the in tention of the Government to propose auy Bill for the extension of the franchise in England during the present Sir JOHN YOUNG raid he entirely concurred in the opinion expressed by the Hon. Member for Cork, that the peasantry of Ireland were but litle interested in the question of protection, and he would take the liberty of calling the attention of the Hon. Member fe. Meath (Mr. Grattan), to a report of a Government Commission issued in 1836,;t0 inquire into the state of the peasantry, and more especially to that portion of it which related to his own county- In giving the detail of the average number of days the peasantry were employed during the year, the Commission stated that the most skilful labourers were employed 150 days in the year—that the general average employmeat of labourers less ski'fil was 115 days in the year—and that the average employ merit of those who were t)o young to be employed in labour of a description suitable to the two classes named was 70 days in the year. Now that was at a time when protection, which was said to be of such benefit to those classes, was in full operation.—(Hear.) The fact was, that during the period of protection famine and fever had been doing their work iu Ireland to a fearful ex tent, and the Commission to which he had referred, as evidence cf its bad effec'e eteted that employment in that country had been on the decrease since the pass ing of the Corn Bill in 1815. As to what was said in her Majesty's Speech in reference to an extension of the elective franchi e in Ireland, he would be ready to give the subject every consideration. He held that a well devised scheme cf the extension of the privilege in Ire land would be a great benefit, although he believed there would be comaderable difficulty found in carrying it out. Befoie he sat down he would allude to an error which had crept into the report of the Irish Poor-law Commit tee which sat last session. It occnrred in the evidence of a witness of the same of O'Sullivan, the parish priest f Kerunare. That gentleman stated that ho lived on Lord Lansdowne's property, and that the rent he paid was 20 per cent. above the poor-law valuation. The noble owner of the property, conceiving that such a statement would lead to the conclusion that his rents were exorbitai tly high, addressed the Chairman of the Committee to the effect that the statement was errone ous, and that he bad receired a note from Mr. Sullivan, who made the statement, regretting it should have crept into the report, and assuring bins that the rent paid by him was far below the poor-law valuation. Mr. Sullivan had also addressed a letter to the Chairman of the Com mittee, correcting the mistatement, and remarking that instead of the rent charged being above the poor-law valuation in one townland, they were 8 per cent. below it, and another 17.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. BANKES said, as the Hon. Baronet had nought fit to say that during the existence of tho system ef protectie n they were suffering from fever, pestilence, and famine— Sir JOHN YOUNG—The Irish peasantry were so. Mr. BANKES—WeII, that the Irish peasantry were so, he thought it becoming in any one who entertained a different opinion to appeal to an authority to which be conceived the Hon. Baronet would be inclined to pay the higliest respect. He deprecated tho system which had been observed during the debate on the Address, by those who supported the free-trade system, to appeal to last year, in comrarison with preceding years, as show- ing the triumphs of free trade; but in reply to the Hon. Baronet who had just sat down, he would appeal to a year during which he was a member of the Govern ment, and ho would compare the state, not only of Ire land, but of the country generally during that year, with that of the last free-trade year. He would, therefore, take the year 1845, and let the House see what account was given of that s ear on the opening of Parliament. On referring to her Majesty's Speech on the opening her Parliament of that year he found her Majesty rejoicing that, on again meeting Noble Lords and Hon.:Gentlemen, she was enabled to congratulate them on the improved condition of the country. Increased activity prevailed in almost every branch of trade and commerce, profound peace existed at home and abroad, and among all classes there prevailed a spirit of loyalty and general obedi ence to the laws. The Speech went on to state that her Majesty continued to receive from all foreign powers tokens of their goodwill, and with reference to Ireland this Government, of which the Hon. Baronet was a member, made her Majesty say that she had observed with the greatest satisfaction that the improvements manifested in other parts of the country had extended to Ireland—that their political excitement had greatly abated, and that as a natural result private capital was more largely applied in the promotion of useful public enterprise.—(Hear, hear.) After that, how could the Honourable Baronet rise in his place and say that the continuance of that system of protection, of which he and his party were firm supporters up to 1845, had been the means of causing such suffering in Ireland as he had referred to? With reference to the division on the amendment on the Address, ho did not think that his party need at all to be discouraged. In that division there were:three parties pitched against one,and he thought in such circumstances that one had no cause to be ashamed of the appearance it had made. As to the di vision in the other House, he did not think the result was at all to be lamented. The question. in his opinion, ought not to be considered a landlord's question. It was a battle which must be fought in that House aad in the country, and ho did not think the Peers would be losing much of their dignity if they should altogether abstain from mingling in the fight. The Hon. Member fir Montrose (Mr. Hume) said they were in error, be cause they could not follow his advice. He did not, however, conceive the charge just, fir they were address ing, as was their right to do so, those who formerly held different impressions regarding the burdens endured by the,agricultural body, but who now, for some reason, had changed their tactics, and calling upon them to do that justice which the case required. Besides the Hon. Member for Montrose seemed at a loss what advice to give them. year. The Hor. Gentlemen arid other Memberi would probably discuss that question is the course of the pre sent session, and he (Lord J. Russell) would be ready then, as he hoped he should be at all times, to assert and 'maintain the opinions he held. He should not fur ther detain the House. Mr. FRE WEN hoped the Noble Lord would consent to propose to Parliament that the interest paid by the rewcetive railroads in Ireland should be more equalized. Mr. SADLEIR thought the Hon. Gentleman who moved the Address bed expressed too sanguine views with respect to the recovery of Ireland. Any one who ref!, cted on tie awful calamities to which that country hat been subjected must be conscious many years would elapse before it resumed the prosperous condition it had e ijoyed previous to 1845. He appealed to Hon. Members acquf.,inted with Ireland, whether there were not tem porary consequences, resulting from free trade, which pressed on the agricultural classes with great severity? Unfortunately, it was impossible for an agriculturist in this country to emancipate himself without sacrificing a great amount of capital which he had sunk in the im provement of the soil, under the expectation of receiv. ing prices that were now impossible. In Ireland, if an equitable 'adjustment of rent could be obtained, the farmers could still cultivate the land with sue , teas. It was impossible that the Irish people could come to any arrangement on this question if left to themselves. The great difficulty was in the vast extent of land in the hands of particular individuals, by far too largo both for their own interests and that of the public. Again, there was nothing more common than to find the owner of land in Ireland with a rental of 1,004 a year, who was not entitled to expend 2001. a year, mid a pro position to such an individual to effect an equitable ad justment of rent was equivalent to telling him to retire into the workhouse. He trusted that a short Bill would be introduce), giving all the railways in Ireland who had still to purchase land, the same facilities that bad been given last session to the Mullingar Railway. The Great Southern and Western Railway of Ireland paid no less than 45,000/. as their solicitor's costs for the purchase of land; but if they had the benefit of the Mullingar clauses the costs could not possibly have been more than 5,000/. The costs of inquisitions on land •by the same company paid in fees to assessors and jurors, and in dinners and refreshments, were no less than 36,0001; and the whole amount paid for land by that company was 371,1781., no less than five times the value of the land being paid in some instances. Lord NEWPORT did not think the arguments of the Honourable Members for Limerick and Cavan were in favour either of protection or free trade; and he ex pressed his conviction that the country viewed with deep dissatisfaction the omission of such words from the Royal Speech as were contained in the amendment pro posed to the Address. Protection was not a question affecting agriculture only; it concerned all classes of trade; and the operatives were beginning to feel that the principle of buying in the cheapest market and sel ling in the dearest was ruinous to the labourer. He did not wish the country to recur to a system of protection of a restrictive character. Protection, however, was the best principle upon which the country could be governed, but, on the other hand, if free trade was to be the prin ciple of legislation, he called upon the Government to carry it out by repealing the duties upon tea, malt, hops, spirits, tobacco, and every other article which entered into the consumption of the poor—(Hear, hear). Lord CLAUD HAMILTON begged permission briefly to explain his reasons for voting in the minority on Friday night. He had not spoken in the debate, be cause, having only arrived from Ireland on Thursday, he was too late to speak on that day, and on Friday the House was too impatient and desirous of coming to a decision. He therefore voted, with the determination of explaining at the earliest possible period. The fact was, he liked neither the Address nor the amendment, and be voted in the minority, not out of any spirit of hostility to the Government, nor in the spirit of the Ad dress, but merely because he felt that the kingdom of Ireland, as an important part of the United Kingdom, had not met with the proper respect with which it should have been treated in her Majesty's Speech. There might have been at least some expression of sympathy for its condition, if no hopes were held out of remedial measures ; whereas all that it had met with was a recognition of its deep distress. But even that was glossed over and immediately followed by a jubi lation upon the general prosperity of the empire. For that reason he had voted against the Address; but he at the same time did not coincide in the least in the idea that the distress of Ireland was owing to any late legislation—to any of the sc-called free-trade measures. (Hear, hear.) For he thought that Ireland could be very prosperous under free trade—(Hear, hear)—if it were not for the unfortunate circumstances that had pre ceded the passing of those measures. Ho had listened with pleasure to the most able, eloquent, and winning speech of the !Noble Lord at the head of her Majesty's Government; but not one word about Ireland did he hear from beginning to end of it.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) He could only say that he wished he were as ignorant of her miseries as the Noble Lord seemed to be. them they would soon find they bad been pursuing a shadow and a delusion which would fail them at the last moment, and produce a state of general discontent and destitution. As to the state of the manufac turing- districts, he freely admitted they wore at present in a state of greiter prosperity than for many years past. Their wages had not been yet reduced, while the price of provisions was lower. But he told the Noble Lord that the master manufse- turers were making nothing.—(Hear, hear.) Tee prices at which *ley were obliged to sell left no profit, and, deceived by the representations of those who predicted a long run of prosperity, they would go on manufactur ing until they overstocked the markets, and were thrown into all the misery and seffering of a state of commercial distress. Bullion would again become scarce, employ ment would be largely diminished, and the poor-rates, which they now boasted were lower by seven per cent. than they wore in that awful year 1847, would again rise, and rise to an amount far beyond that of 1845. It was not the raising of rents or the promotion of manu factures that should be their care. It was not the pro motion of any particular interest, but the raising of beforesvh o whole p i t e o w p a l e s . t o n l o a t t e r t s b t e a d t i b a re G ad od an tb d ey wo thew a e l l d fa d re ise o o f ee th r, e they would not advance these objects by the course they were now pursuing, and conscientiously opposed as he was to that course, he would cordi a lly vote i n f avour o f the amendment. mistakesrose taketo int o th w e b earliest iebthe H o o p e - . had fallen with resp ec t t o Ire r. 8 0, he would re m a r k, w i t h pmo Member t e i M r t y ° fo o l :f B D CO E o r r i s ti L e C t t s s i b n a i g i r d e t h h l e e lion. Gentleman w h o l r a e n fe d r . e u t t o , t lr e fo a r p e e e c d b o ionfg the had just sat down, that he was the first Hon. Member who had had the boldness to assert in that House that the distress in Ireland had been caused by their recent legislation. Mr. SPOONER—Why that is in our amendment. Mr. MONSELL—It might to in the amendment, but he bad not heard any Hon. Member assert it in that House. But whether it was in the amendment or not, it was opposed to the opinions he held upon the subject. Ho would not take the more prosperous parts of Ireland, such as the north and the east, but taking Limerick, his own county, where nothing but ruin had stared them in tLe face—where stock and land had alike failed to return a • living, nothing but their legislation could have prevented the state of things from ' becoming imperatively worse. The history of the trade of Limerick during the past three years was simply this—that the imports to this port bad ex ceeded the exports from it. They may seek about far the causes of distress in the agricultural districts of the west of Ireland as they might, but they would always come back t this fact, that before the failure of the po tato crop Limerick was an exporting port. Subsequent to that event it had been an importing port. Ho be lieved in his conscience that protection had been the main reason why Ireland had been sunk in the miserable state in which it at . present lay. In the year 1836, ' when protection was in its high and palmy days in Ire land, the Queen's Speech contained a paragraph lament ing the distress prevailing throughout the agricultural districts. The report of the Devon Commission de scribed the condition of the labouring population of Ireland at that time, as being miserable in the extreme; and this was at the time when, according to the Hon. Member for Dorsetahire, protection was at the height of its beneficial influence. It was clear therefore that at that time the poor of Ireland had not the slightest interest in protection. He believed in his conscience that the pro tection agitation which had been carried on in Ireland during the last two months had done much to set class against class, and to indispose all parties to act for their mutual good. He besought Hon. Gentlemen to consider deeply the probable consequence of the steps they advo cated in this question, and to assure themselves before hand of the correctness of their opinions. —(Hear.) Colonel THOMPSON had just entered the House when the Hon. Member for North Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner) was arguing that it was unfair to expose the English agriculturist to competition with foreigners, on the ground that the latter were untaxed. But ho (Col. Thompson) appealed with confidence to the House whether it was net the real fact of the case that the struggle was, not between the taxed agriculturist and the untaxed foreigner, but between the taxed agriculturist and the taxed labourer of Bradford and elsewhere, whose trade it was to manufacture goods for the purpose of being exchanged for foreign corn.—(Hear.) The ques tion was, whether it was right and just to put the inanu. factures of Bradford down to serve the agriculturists?— (Hear, hear.) What would be thought of the former if, because they were heavily taxed, they were to insist upon taxing home-grown corn ? His constiteents said, "If wo are not taxed en ou gh , ta x us more, e b e u e t b d les do nuosttse pay successtopouorotrratx,est,hewbicbis,in fact, our lif : - of which alon e bear.)A great deal w as sa id industry. Are we bl about blood—our b o e u r encouragementall."— ( ar, of native not native industry ?—(gear, hear.) Encourage the, or, at all event:, leavo it alone to follow its honest course, without checking it in order to fill the coffers of another interest. The principle advanced by Hon. Gen tlemen opposite was the same as if they recommended putting a stop to omnibuses in order to encourage the ancient body of hackney coachmen, or putting heavy duties upon the port wine of Portugal, in order to give employment to the glassmakers and gardeners of this country—(Hear)—the result of which on the total consumer balance of the account would only be, that the Mr. HUME—I have given to Mr.get a u reduction A N K E sh o a f d the expenditure. ycu m y advice. Join me atia , .:hed to an insignificantshopuald to taunt them, wish party, become a t n h d ey he sh d o i u d ld not coure rnlght whichresult insm ighsttataet it right e ' f hetim° things osfeemhsdafe,thiil think they refuse to follow . a I B .ro u ni t th er e r H or o o n n . Member f b r e e r e. f t o r r ae b e fo sy n s t t r e o m se a ha dangerous but nature. w'hi e h himself, and been free The e d H th o a r t . made him less inclined to follow his ai l l r v n i w Member ouldrai t s o e ld i n th s t e e m ed th o a f t lo th w e er re p p r e ie a e l s . of the t c h (l. t corn it w lairs ould equalise prices —C' Heir, Lear," from 'Mr that but the result had shown how erroneous had . rea soning.been his It hal been said that their manufacturer 's ere 211 a state of wonderful prosperity; but he would challenge those connected with the cotton manufactures of the country to rise and say that such was the case. He be lievede the reverse to be the fact. The woollen - trad e' he behaved, was in a somewhat b etter condition ; and he migitt mention, in reference to that article, that in order to repay them for repealing the corn and navigation-laws, Spain had imposed an additional duty on that article of twopence per yard. Spain was the only country the Honourable Member for the West Riding had visited after his great triumph, which had not had a revolution. In every other country the ROIL Member had visited revolution, instead of free Colonel SIBTHORP said he had been misunderstood by an Hon. Gentleman opposite. He firmly believed that protection would be regained.—(Hear and a laugh.) The report was brought up and agreed to, and the Address was ordered to be presented to her Majesty by the Speaker and as many Members as chose to accom pany him to-morrow (as we undorstood). PRINTING COMMITTEE. Mr. CORNE WALL LEWIS proposed the following Hor. Members to form a Select Committee to assist Mr. Speaker in all matters which relate to the printing ex ecuted by order of this House, and for the purpose of selecting and arranging for printing returns and papers presented in pursuance of motions made by Members of this House:—Mr. Cornewall Lewis, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Mr. Pusey, Mr. Vernon Smith, Sir John Young, Viscount Mahon, Mr. Hume, Mr. Cardwell, and Mr. Lech. Colonel SIBTIIOEP gave notice that he woald move to-morrow for returns; of the salaries recoiled by fill per- LONDON, TUESDAY - EVENING, FEBRUARY 5, um sons holding public (Aces; and also for returns of all sums of money voted for royal palaces within the last three ycarP, with the :ums paid and the amounts re maining due. e House adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'clock. The name of Lord Clifdyn W2S omitted by mist,ke from the list of the trnjority who voted in favour cf the Addresr. Mr. D'Eyneourt paired off with Lord Lewisham against the Protectionist amendment to the Address, finding on: his arrival from Paris on Thursday, that the death, on the previous day, of his nephew, Mr. Rus':ell, of Braneepeth Castk, Durham, obliged him to go imme diately to the north of England. MAKING A FUSS. BY ELIZA COOL. • "Making a fuss" seems very insignificant and harmless in the abstract allusion, hut alas ! it is no trifling infliction in the practical existence of every day life. Those who have never been placed within full reach of its tiresome and irritating influence are not competent to enter into our feelings on the mat ter, for it requires personal experience to enable one to judge of the extent of discomfort produced by such a state of prepinquity. Those who have acquired some knowledge of what we complain of will doubtless give us their genuine sympathy, and those who have not will be grateful to us for affording them just sufficient initiation, to con vince them that, in this particular i ns t ance —" Igno rance is decidedlyi bliss." There are various manifestations of the " making a fuss" complaint, which develops theinselver differ ently in different individuals. We have seen the most distressing and violent symptoms produced in many, by the unexpected visit of a couple of friends, for whom the " family dinner" was not considered good enough—these generally belong to the feminine gender. We have observed the worst demonstrations in others, when a cold, or sprained ankle has con fined them within doors for a few days—these are principally evinced by masculine philosophers ; and we have often noted the extreme of rabid restlessness in some at railway stations, where the greatest possible amount of mental anxiety and bodily uneasiness was exhausted, over the safety of a portmanteau, and the choice of a seat. We by no means avow that these are the only occasions on which people who are given to " meke a fuss" display their unfortunate propensity, but simply wish to show that there are certain times and circumstances which elicit their peculiarities to the most prominent disadvantage. Indeed, these peo ple are ever reminding one of " industrious fleas ;" and their unceasing activity over affairs of no conse quence, their pertinacious exaggeration of insignifi cant molehills into important mountains, and their system of investing all they do and say with exces sive parade, are enough to create a fever in any natu rally quiet temperament ; and among the minor mise ries of enduring spirits may surely be reckoned the especial one of spending a day with friends who prove the heartiness of their welcome by " making a fuss." We admire hospitality, we love enthusiasm, we respect good manners ; but we are acquainted with a lady, whose incognito shall be preserved under the name of Courtney, who has often tempted us to ab jure them all. This lady lives in a very pretty cottage a few miles from town—a cottage intended for a complete bower of happiness, with its trelised doorway, its woodbine shadowed windows opening on to the greenest of lawns, its gothic gables covered with ivy, where sparrows twitter as only sparrows can twitter, its garden in front, its orchard on one side, and its three cornered meadow on the other, in which may be seen the blackest of cows, the whitest of poni es , an d th e most ancient of p e t-iambs ; and as for the honey suckle, cowslips, dog-roses, and sweet woodruff which may be found in the immediate neighbour hood, why we would match it against any spot in England, and that is saying so:nettling. In short, it is as charming a home as ever suggested the con junction of love and a cottage; but—oh! these de pressing " buts," they break in upon us like board ing -shoot ushers in a boys' play-ground —but the lady of the house, this said Mrs. Courtney, is alarm ingly celebrated for " making a fuss." Like many others of her " genus," she. is " good at heart." She gives away beef and flannels at Christmas, puts two orphan children to school, knits warm socks for poor old folk afflicted with rheumatism, and has taken in no less than five stray kittens within six months; but—there it is again !—that monosyllabic impediment—but she ever contrives to create such a busy, dizzy, walking, talking " fuss" over every body and everything in her establishment, that we candidly confess we look upon the place as a domestic anthill, and on herself as the embodiment of all the ants in one. The last time we paid a visit to her we met her at the garden gate, just as she was going into the village, and we expressed our readiness to share and enjoy the walk in the beautiful sunshine ; but her excessive delight at seeing us could only declare itself by in sisting on our swallowing a glass of wino before we started, though we protested against it with all our own strong disinclination, and the doctor's authority to back our rejection. IC-ys rattled,' servants hur ried, glasses chinked, cake-baskets appeared in per ceptible confusion, and Mrs. Courtney herself rushed amongst all and each like a locomotive champagne cork. ' We declined port, and she was painfully disappointed ; we put aside madeira, and she grew pressingly ener getic; we scrupled at hock, and she became despe rately imperative ; and when we allowed ourselves to he victimized into a dose of the latter wine, she instantly discovered that we were sitting at an opened window, and the consequence of draught was impres sively dilated on. We were compelled to remove to the opposite seat, when she jumped up in dismay, perceiving that the sun was streaming down upon us, and she was sure it was "so unpleasant to sit in a full light." Down went the blind in rash haste, to the exclusion of the cheerful greensward and shining blackbirds ; and what with being obliged to take golden wine which we did not like, and forbidden to bask in the golden rays which we did like, our sense of freedom was somewhat wounded, and our easy temper began to chafe. Mrs. Court ney then again started up, bells were again rung violently, servants again hurried to and fro, and we were embarrassingly cognizant that a coun cil of alimentary policy was being held. We became bold in our perturbation, and entreated that no alteration in the dining arrangements should be made; but it was in vain. We were silenced by impassioned declaration, and heard the order given for a couple of ducks and a cranberry tart, condiments we happen to passively scorn, while the original meal of cold chicken and mutton hops, edibles we greatly rejoice in, was repudiated entirely as unworthy our refined taste. At last we set off, and it would be useless to attempt to relate all the annoyance we suffered on our way. We were snatched with violent tugging from a rosy-faced child that we felt in clined to propitiate, on account of its having had the scarlet-fever six months before, and subjected to divers illustrations of the dangers of infection, and when we accidentally walked in a grassy path, where the dew laid as though the fairies had been flinging their diamond necklaces at each other, Mrs. Courtney was in an agony of fear lest we should get cold through wet feet ; we displayed our double-soles in all the pride of prudence; but our endeavours to evade the " fuss" were useless. Home we went, and nothing less than a change of " sock and buskin " satisfied her. At last we dined, when lo! the ducks were tough, and never in this eating and drinking world was there ever such a noisy " fuss " over a pair of antediluvian birds. Our appetite was fortu nately quite destroyed by the mental disquietude which had been excited in us, and we secretly vowed it should be the last time we crossed that threshhold. We left with our cheeks perfectly hectic, our pulse heightened, our spirit mortified, and our natural hu manity retrograding to a savage state ; and all this dis turbance in our moral and physical economy was produced by that simple, but peace-destroying capa city of " making a fuss," We have another acquaintance among the " lords of the creation" who is equally great in this way ; and perchance the air of Dombeyish dignity with which his "fuss" is ever surrounded, is even worse than the enthusiastic style of the lady. Poor dear gentleman ! he had the influenza a few months since, and never shall we forget the general household misery that ensued. Wife, daughters, and servants were all objects of his dissatisfied grumbling. No pillow was rightly placed, no barley water was well flavoured, no doctor understood his case, no devoted attention was prompt enough, no limbs ever ached as his did ; and, in fact, he was a Pandora's box, without the bright saving clause said to reside at the bottom of it. This gentleman is one of the pleasant members of society, who will lecture his wife for an hour for having permitted the cook to place Spanish instead of Italian olives on the table at his last dinner party ; who seriously moralizes with his eldest daughter it she laugh above the noise of a simper, and haggles with a cabman on a wet night fur threepence, "on principle," before ladiei ; he is especially tiresome over the set of his shirts, and to our certain know ledge, his last dozen have been altered four time?, and now there is a plait or two left, a thread awry, over which he invariably " makes a fuss." Poor, dear man ! we have often stood in doubt as to whether we pity him or his family most, but his example has so imbued us with dread of it, that whenever we hear of a young lady friend being about to wear orange blossom, we instinctively inquire whether the " in tended" is given to " make a fuss." We have a profound antipathy touching "fussy" people ; to be located with them is as pleasant to us as living in a whirlwind of March dust, - }V,, ge t nervous and agitated beyond expression, with their unceasing fidgeting and fuming, and whenever their tendency is exhibited in our personal interest and favour, as in the case of Um Courtney, we ;liould f be infi n it e l y more gra t e f u l fur a little wholes om i "letti ng a l one. " I t i s very possible to smother one (with roses ; and many well-intentioned people mar all their excellent meaning by a redundancy of active politenes, which vulgarly amounts to " makin g a fuss." If we ever visit Mrs. Courtney again, we trust she will allow us to take water, even with the ' chill off, if we choos e . I t i s a sad thing that such a charming cottage, with a thousand a year to keep it aired, should be rendered uninhabitable by the fatal power she pos. seises of " snaking a fuss ;" and, in confidential malice, we can assure her that Mr. Courtney is often to be found dining with his club, when he makes her believe he is busy in his counting-house, and the reason he gives is, that Mrs. Courtney never can let a splash of gravy fall on tl.e table-cloth without tt snaking a fuss."—Eliza Cook's Journal. SPORTING IN 'FELL I GENCE. TATTERSALL'S.—YESTERDAL LIVERPOOL STEEPLECHASE. 8 to 1 agst Lord Waterford's Sir John 8 to 1 agst Lord Strathnaore's Rat -trap 14 to 1 agt Mr. Mason na The Chandlf,r—taken 15 to 1 agst Mr. J. Fort's Knight of Gwynne— taken 20 to 1 nest Lord St fLon na Little Fanny 25 to 1 agst Mr. Caltle na Grande Lam;ikee—t a k en 30 to 1 agst Mr. Hughes's Tipperary Boy— ta k en LIVERPOOL SPRING CUP. 7 to 2 agst Mr. E. J. Irwin's Ballinafad THE NORTHAMPTONSHIRE STAKES. The only bet on this event was 20 to 1 to IC/. apt Fernhill. aiETaoPOLITAN HANDICAP. 6 :o 1 eg:t Mr. Gratnicke's Cheerful, 4 yrs, 6st—• taken freely 15 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Snewstorm,4 yrs, 7, t 4lb 18 to 1 agst Mr. Murphy's Dough, 5 yrs,Bst 51b— t ‘.:() to 1 apt Sir G. Heatheote's Black Eagle, 4 yrs, 7st 111 b—taken 20 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Testator, 4 yrs,7st2lb—t 20 to 1 egst Mr. C. Peck's Melody, 4 yrs, 7st—taken. 20 to 1 agst Mr. Gregory's Damask, 3 yrs, sst 101 b—t 25 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Quiver, 4 yrs, 7st 31b—taken 30 to 1 agst Captain Lowther's Bastinado, 3 yrs, 4st 71b—taken All the horses quoted were backed, but Cheerful only with any spirit; 6 to 1 could not be got at the close. TWO THOUSAND GUINEAS STAKES. 5 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's Epirote 10 to 1 agst Mr. Hill's Pitsford—taken CHESTER CUP. 16 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Glauca, 4 yra, 7st 51b -17 to 1 taken 20 to 1 cgst Mr. Merry's Miss Ann, 4 yrs, 7st 20 to 1 agst Mr. St. George's Whim colt, 4 yr• 6.t 7lb ••, 25 to 1 agst Lord Howth's Peep-o'-day Boy, 6 yrs, 9 st—taken 25 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Roland, 4 yrs, sst 81b— taken and afterwards offered 28 to 1 agst Capt. Harcourt's Eller&le, 6yre,Bo3lb 40 to 1 agst Mr. Hallord's H trriott, 3 yrs, sst 91b 40 to 1 agst Mr. Gregory's Clerment, 6 yrs, 7st 51b 50 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's The Knott', 4 yrs, 6st 81b 50 to 1 agst Mr. Isaac Day's Cockermouth, 5 yrs, Est 10lb ,000 to 20 asst Mr. P. Colgan's Horn of Chase, 6 yrs, 7st 101 b ,000 to 15 agst Mr. B. Green's Lady Superior, 4 yrs, Tat —taken and afterwards offered ,000 to 15 agst Lord Clifden's Lodola filly, 4 yrs, sst 81b-1,000 to 20 taken once 1,000 to 15 agst Mr. B. Green's Pelham, 4 yrs, 7st The only horses in request were Glauca, the Whim colt, and Peer-J'-.lay Boy; and on them the investments were not by any means large. The Aegean yi a; mistakenly included in the accept. antes for this event. DERBY, 1850. 15 to 2 agst Duke of Richmond's Ghillie Callum— take 8 to 1 10 to 1 agst Mr. W. Edwards na Bolingbroke—taken 10 to I agst Lard Eglinton's Knight of Avenel 16 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's The Italian—take 17 to 1 16 to 1 agst Lord Zetland's Voltigeur—taken freely 20 to 1 agst Mr. Gratwicke's The Nigger—taken 25 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Mayors—take 28 to 1 5,000 to 75 agst Mr. Ley's Charley—taken In the early part of the afternoon 1,450 to 200 was taken about Ghillio Callum, and 11 to I to 504, and 12 to 1 to 3tlo/. laid agst Bolingbroke; 8 to 1 to 751 was afterwards laid agt4 the first, and 10 to 1 taken in hun dreds about Bolingbroke. Volligeur was backed for all that could be got on at 16 to 1. THE OA KS. 13 to 2 agst Lord Eglinton's Probity—taken WARWICK AND LEAMINGTON SPRING MEETING, 1850. Nominations for the Trial Stakes—Mr. Stevens's Knight of Gwynue, 3 yrs—Mr. Scott's Warwick, own brother to Yardley, 3 yrs—Lord Strathmore's Tees water, 3 yrs—Mr. E. Buckley's Ardwick, 3 yrs—Mr. T. Dawson na Mark Tapl , y, 3 yrs—Mr. Lucas's Eye-the- Boys, 3 yrs—Mr. W. Mosley's Alonzl, 3 yrs—Mr. B. Green's Osbaldeston, 3 yrs—Mr. W. J. Sadler's Wood sprite, sister to Hind of the Forest, 3 yrs—Mr. Merry's Brennus, 3 yrs—Mr. Cowper's The Milner, 4 yrs— Csiptain Archdall's Rose Pompon, 3 yrs—Lori Cliftlen's Torpor, 3 yrs. _ Nominations f,r the Two yrs old Stakes—Mr. T. Stevens's Britannia—Lord Strg thtnore's Faux Pas—Mr. Little's Colibri. by Cotherstone—Mr. Armstrong's Barker—Sir J. Hawley's b f by Venison, out of Baccha nalian's darn—M-. W. H. Sadler's Fringe—Capt. Arch dell's Quadroon—Mr. C. Jones's lenthe, by lon—Mr. IVlc,s 'Ws Stafford—Lord Warwick's Leap-year—Mr. Parker's The Calculator (late B.O.)—Mr. Casidy'a Whisper—Mr. Stebbings's TIP! Partridge—Mr. Merry s Nspoleon—Lord Cli.den's Beiutort. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. SIR,—You last week inserted an account of an appli cstion by Sir F. Thesiger to the Bail Court, for a rule nisi for a criminal information against me for a libel on the Rev. G. R. Prynne. I shall be much obliged to you if you will permit me to say that paragraph which the Rev. Gentleman has applied to himself was never in tended to apply to him—that it applied to another person —and that the breath of calumny, as regards the Rev. G. R. Prynne, has never, so far as I am aware or be. lieve, assailed the moral character of that gentleman. I wake this statemer.t myself, voluntarily, being anxious that it should be universally known that the paragraph was never intended to apply to Mr. Prynne, nor to any other clergyman of the Established Church —a circumstance of which I informed him personally, the moment that I heard of its misapplication. I am, Sir, your obedient aervau►, ISAAC LATIMER. Journal Office, Plymouth, Feb. 4, 1850. I THE WORD "EMINENT.''—It was formerly ap plied chiefly to physicians. But it was extremely un. reasonable that the physicians should have the monopoly of a word which, looking to its derivation, strictly im plies that its fortunate possessor occupies a height from whence he looks down upon the rest of a ankind. Ac cordingly, in our day, when all the resources of language are put under contribution to help everybody into notoriety, this word ' eminent' has been gradually drawn from its exclusive application to advertise the claims of multitudes of people who, without some such herald of their merits, might appeal in vain to an undiscerning public. The physicians aro no longer the only eminent t e Tie in the world. Good reason, too, for that. Repe -1 dancers and upholsterers have their own heights to climb as well as physicians, cardinals, and ambassadors, which two latter classes are eminent only by virtue of office. So many eminent persons come out upon us now-a-days from obscure holes and corners, that the difficulty would be to find one who is not considered by himself, or by somebody else, fully entitled to that honourable elevation, which he either stands upon, or believes that he stands upon.—The " Ladder of Gold" its Bentley's Miscellany. THE ROYAL SCOTTISH SOCIETY.-This society will hold their annual ball on Thursday next at Willis's Rooms, in aid cf the Scottish charities of London, when the " kilts" are expected to muster in full force. We hope that the numerous friends who enjoyed their fete in June last will not be absent on the forthcoming evening. LEAMINGTON SPA, FEB. . — Jullien's annual con certs and ball during the present week have formed our chief fashionable amusement. The arrival-books have been recently inscribea by the Viscount and Viscountess Campden, Lord Elphinatone, Lord and Lady Campbell, Lord Bateman, Lord Burleigh, Lord Eastnor, Arch deacon and Mrs. Beresford, Lady Browne, Lady and Miss Montgomery, &c. RAILWAY BILLS ON STANDING ORDERS.—Yester day the Bill of the North Kent Railway Continuation Company came on on standing orders, the object being to make a r a il wa y f rom St rou d th roug h Canter b ury, eeei Deal, and Dover, with branches to Maidston e , Sh rrs Feversham, aad Chilham, and a loop line from Gree nwich to Woolwich, so as to facilitateolva e n r d _n . ment Anew establish ments, t c o mmunicationfeature li sh m be tweenents, t w he ork n s a , va a l nd rbo a h n a dm u i r t s t . rY En En gland. o is the appointment of comausnfsiodnireernsiosrism.ilar The to Billthose w i a t: road trusts, instead as now opposed by the South-Eastern Company, a nd allegati ons o f non-compliance were sustained uponthe ground of imperfections in the necessary notices and incorrect defi nition of boundaries. The stan ding orders were declared to be complied with in the following cases; —Liverpool, Crosby, and Southport, for lease to the Lancashire and Yorkshire, and other objects; the Monmouthshire Rail. way, for amendment and extension of line; and Dundee and Perth, for lease to Caledonian Railway, and regula tion of capital. THE WINDSOR ELECTION.--Mr. Hatchell has commenced his canvass, and has issued an address to the electors for the borough, thanking the voters for their promises, &c. At present he has no opponent in the field, though from a bill published by an " independent elector," in which the learned gentleman is designated as the "Irish Sergeant," and allusions made to the " distressed Irish," it was inferred that a " gentleman well known" to the electors, and understiod to be Sir John Cathcart, of Binfield, would offer himself as a candidate. The ITon. Bare)! et Lai not, however, as yet come forth, and it is concluded Mr. Hatchell will walk over the course. The town of Windsor exhibits nothing of the animation of an approaching eleatior. THE REPRESEI , TATION OF COLCHEST E R .—Lord John Manners, who ha s received a requisi t ion very nu merously signed to allow himself to be put in nomination for this borough, yesterday addressed the electors at much length, and was very favourably received. Tim LATE DEAN OF LLANDATF.—A young lady of Llatidati has decorated the grave of the late dean of that diocese, which is within the altar rails of the cathe. dral, every week with flowers since his death,—Ezeter Gazette,