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' r q'ff ‘" 4r - 111 :1•Alrol J r 44Y , ' seatit '4O 41. Vit- 49 , 4 P NOTTINGHAM RACES. (THIS DAY.) ( BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPR• . Saterstalses of 5 SA!. each. Julia Norton filly Shropshire Witch Chesterfield Handicap. Chief Jeatice Candlewick Grief ... Oxford Blue Won by a mei:. Sosrborough Stakes. Cileulator Catlor .• Egret • • ... 1 ... 2 ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... 1 ... 2 ~, 3 g TourtsJl_zbttton SUN OP I. iC E, Seven o Clock IMPERIAL PA IRLIAMEN T. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The I.OeD CHANCELLOIL took his seat upon the Wool is.tek at Five o'clock. ;be Earl of LONSDALE presented petitions front several places in favour of the Ecclesiastical Titles As sumption Bill. Earl NELSON presented several petitions with a simi lar prayer. W RF,XIIAM IMPROVEMENT BILL. Earl TALBO Ls moved (he re committal of this Bill, on account of the absence from the Committee of one Noble Lord who had been appointed to ait on that Com sup. Lord CAMOYS opposed tho motion. The Marquis of CLANRICAIIDE could se e no ne eesaity for re-commming the Bill. Earl TALBOT replied. The House divided, when there app Contents ••• ••• •.• 9 •• Non-contents ..• • ••• •** 34 Majority ggsiost the recommittal of the Bill ,••• ••• (LEFT SITTING.) -25 HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAREIt took the Chair at a few minutes be t-ere Four o'clock, at which time there was an unusually full attendance of Members. SCENE IN THE HOUSE. I m mediately aft,rwards the House was about to pro ceed with the private business on the piper, but before t he first Bill had laeti disposed cf Mr. Alderman Salo mons entered and toi,k his seat beneath the Speaker's gallery. Thu SPEAKER observing this, and it yet wanting two or three minutes to four o'eloc , A, said, "Al2mbers to sworn will ploase to come to the table." Mr. Alderwrin SALOM!)1•19 than advanced to the table . b4-in; introdßced by Sir B. and Mr. J. A. Smith, and the clerk At thd pr,srited the Hon. Member with a hock, which, from what next occurred, would appear to be a copy of the New Testament. Alderman SALoivross, without accepting the proffered book, said in a loud and firm voice, I demand to be sworn upon the Old Testament. The SPEAKER—WiII the Hon.—(oh) —Member say why he wishes to be sworn upon the Old Testament? Alderman SaLIMONS-13ecsus., Sir, I behave it to be most binding upon my conscience. The SPEAKER—The oaths, then, may be adminis tered so. The ceremony of swearing was accordingly proceeded vs ith upon the Old Testament, the Hon. Member re peating all the words of the oaths except those in the oath of abjuration, " - Upon the true faith of a Chris tian," and then reading from a piper, said, " I have now taken the oaths in the form and with the ceremonies that I declare to be binding on my conscience, in ac cordance with stet. 1 and 2 Vict., cap. 105; I now de mend to subscribe the oath cf abjuration, and to declare to my property qualification." The scene was ex citing to toe last degree some Members roaring out at the pitch of their voices, " Withdraw, withdraw 1" white: others added to the babble of sounds by calling out tor " Order, order:" or rising to go through a pan toreireic performance, as if they wished to address some- V.ing to the Chair. The confusion, however. did not iu 'any way daunt the Hon. Member for Greenwich, and he continued reading until he came to the close of the pa pers, whrn, tossing w roll of parchment ',cross the table, he slowly retired below the gangway, and seated himself upon one of the front row ot benches. The SPEAKER then made an essay to speak, and some kiting like order being at lergeh obtained, he said "The Honourable Member has omitted certain words ft-en the oaths, which is tantamount to not taking the v , attis at all, and it is therefore my duty to tell him that he must wt:hdraw." Alderman Selomors did not appear at all inclined to comply with the request, but sell maintained his seat, tad the cousequi , one Kai another scene ut noise and can fusion was enacted; the Members on the O t iposition aide the House roaring and shouting again until they were Deg sly black in the face, to use a vulgar expression. The SIE:AKER'S voice was again heard above the 'storm, and, as far as Y. e could catch his words, he said the Hun. Member must be aware that the Act pre- scribes that no Honourable M , :ratier can sit in this House, or vote upon any question, unless he has taken and subscribed to the oaths pre seeibed by law. Now the last of these oaths b nut hen taken in the sense which the House under 'stands the Act—(Cheer.) —and I again re-peat to the Hon. Member that it is my duty to direct him to with draw —(Cheers.) Alt/tat:lmo SALOMONS seemingly at the request of his supporters near him then relit& beyond the bar amidst the hoists roue outburst of Oppesition ch, ering.l Sir B. HALL then rose and said be was requested by the Hon. Member for. Greenwich, who had just pt esented hituaelt tkt the table for the purpose ot taking the oaths prescribed by the Act, arid by the. forma of the House, and who was prepared to take the oaths in a manner which in his opinion was the most binding cie his conscience to declare to the Speaker and to the Itsuse the: the lienourable Mem ber bad withdrawn hem the k,elit which he lately eceupied—(Lauenter and ironical cheers) —in de ference to the high aut , icrity of the Chair.—(Cheers.) Bat he was alio instructed by the Honourable and Learned Membs r to state — Sir F. THESIGER rose to order.—(Cries of " Order, order," and "Don't be put down;" "Go on, go on.") I apprehend, continued the Hon. and Learned Member for Abingdon, that the worthy Alderman has not obeyed the order of the House by withdrawing.— (lieu'. beer.) lie is at present standing within the House, and I con s id er i t my duty to call attention to that yin unsetance.—(Hear, hear.) [This of course gave rise to another exhibition of feel it:4;Bon the part of the Oppoit;on, and again Hon. ever aivi anon parti a ll y j umpe d up an d mot io n ed the n. d Learned Aldermen to withdraw, or indulged strange gesticulatems, as they were aadressing some angry observations to the Chair. Sir William Moles worth and Mr. J. A. SasiJi advanced to the worthy and dauntless Alderman and endeavoured to pereuade him to quit the House ; but no, he would not do that; and at length the Sergeant-at. Arms cam to the rescue, mid at his su gges ti on t h e H on. Mem bare retired to one of the back seats under the Speaker's gallsry usually appropriated to Peers.] Sir B. HALL then went on to say tnat at the time he was interrupted by the Honourable and Learned 3lc m bar for Abingdon he was about to state that the was r-questeo by the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Greenwich to declare to the House that his only object in taking the couree he had adopted was to t ry t h e l ega l question of his riwht to sit for and represent Greenwich iu Yerliament.—(Elear, hear.) It was, however, not his ieteution or desire to take any course which might be '4'.l.her displeasing or inco nvenient to M--Tubers; and he "it' R. H e ll) h a d, therefore, t o ask * question o t t h e Right lion. the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the absence of the Noble Lord at the bead or the Govern ment whi c h Govern or .:sear.) facilitate the settlement of this dispute. for Green wi th As be said irefore, the Hon. Member try his right to sit in the 11,. let). was only anxious to hithat. u l ie t;l a a nd order . that the Hots. Member might put iti4h, Ho g: trieu , nai s ot the le 1 Position to have the matter tried in one of the realm. be had to ask the •the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in euneequence of the proceedings which bead now taken n if that whether, if the Hon. Member u :_ proceeding was not . came in and took his seat again, Government was prepared to institute an imme diate prosecution ega i netb pelialties peovided by the Antn a of f the recovery of the The CHANCELLOR o f the Parliament?—(Cheers.) EXCHEQUER, who spoke iu a very indistinct meet,ea s understood to say that in the absence of his Nob r le Friend who stood at tho bead of the Government, he thoughtsou ldit was ex ceedingly desirable that the House h doubt postpone tpone this question.--(Hear, hear.) N o Ho nonrable Gentleman who had just left the House was very arixioui that this matter should he sperAly t ii . ,p o sed of, but, however, h e su b m i tted to the ff9use wherner it woul.l nut i.e best to agree to a short (relay, and teen have the question brought Lrivard wed discussed in a proper form.— (Hear, hour) It % et , a ouostien of deep and serious importance, nut only to t he Honourable Gentleman himself, b u t to all del out feel himself . competent Pre , Lies, amid hem e Pttainly P answer the questioni which the . Hun. Baronet .. the Mernb. , r for Mere lebone ha il p ut to nim.—(ti.ar, hear.) He would therefore BiLlgest; that no proceedings should be taken now, but that the queetien incited he adjourned tili Monday, and ill the mean while Gevernment would take car e to deliberate upon t " matter, and look into the Acts of Parliament and a uthorities uon the point at issue' so as to be in a positio n to pu p it before the House in a p ro p er light. B. HALL observed that in a matter of this im portance, nothing could be fairer than the proposal of his Right lion. Friend, and for his part he had no objection to postpone the question until Monday, or any other day nexe week that ea.ght be more couvement to the Noble Lord at the head of the Government.—(Neer, hear.) Mr. T. DUNCOMBE wined to know what the ques tion was that was to be resumed on Monday.—(Hear, hear.) It occurred to him that there was no question before the llouee, and if that were so how could they adjourn the debate?—(Hear, hear.) Let somebody meve something, and then on Monday the question might be taken up where it was lefr off. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said a question was put to him by the Hou. Baronet the Mem oar for Nlarylebone, and as he did not feel in a position to answer it, he suggested that it should be postponed till Monday. What he proposed now Was, that nothing should take piece at present, but that the question should stand over till Monday. Government beine in full posses inn of what had taken piece would come down then fully prepared to give the Hon. Baronet for Marylebone an answer one way or another. Sir F. THESIGER said if he understood there was a question for the House to decide he should be dis posed to concur in the suggestion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, but, like the Hon. Member for Finsbury, he felt great difficulty in understanding, from the Right Honourable Gentleman's statement, what the matter was which was to be discussed on Mooday.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman had told the House that there were two questions to be d e cided—first, as to the seat; and secondly, as to instituting a prose cution fur the purpose of trying the right of the Hon. Member for Greenwich to sit veld vote in the House. Now, he had great difficulty in understanding what was the first question which the Right Hon. Gentleman proposed to take en Monday. There could be no doubt wha'ever tea', according to the decision of the Hours, the Hen. Member, having refused to take the ea h ( , )t abjuratii n, was totally incapable of taking his seat—(Cheers)—aud, therefore, he apprehe nd( d that no question of that de (Mr. Sergeact Murphy d sc is r s ip en ti toend could p„u, sibtlhyen , was the question ? arise. what The Hon. and Learned Gentleman the Member for Cork )w , s said there was a grave doubt, but he was not in Parlia ment in the course of last session, and theta fere was rot aware that there was upon the jeurnala a re eolution of the House on a precisely similar question.—(Hear, hear.) Then if these resolutions were worth anything no question of that description was open to them to discuss? He hardly believed that the House was prepared in a following session to rescind a resolution agreed to after a long and anxious debate on the snbject—(Hear, hear)—and, accordingly, be thought there must be some other point which the Right Honourable Gentleman the Chancellor ci the Exchequer proposed for consideration.— (Hear.) This very same question was fully discussed last year, when Mr. Baron Rothschild proposed to take his seat. The Baron refusel to take the oath of abjuration, and it would be remembered that upon that refusal he im mediately rose and moved that the Speaker do issue his writ for the election of a new Member for the: City. That motion was met by his Hon. Friend the thsn Attorney-General, and now Master of the Rolls, by a statement that a refusal to take the oaths did not vacate the seat, but only rendered the Member liable to certain penalties. He (Sir Frederick Theaiger) thought his Honourable and Learned Friend was mistaken. Ho had carefully considered the sutject since, and he had come to the conclusion that in law a refusal to take the oaths vacated the seat. He was, therefore, Extremely desirous to know precisely what was the question which was to be raised on Monday. Mr. B. OSBORNE rose to order. He wished to know whether the Lieu. and Learnel Gentleman was strictly in order it be did sot conclude by proposing a motion. The SPEAKER said the Hon. and Learned Member would certainly be out of order unless he concluded with a motion.—(Hear, a nd cheers ) Sir F. THESIGER said he would beg leave then, being tostigat , d by the Hun. Member fur Middlesex, to move that the Speaker be directed to issue his writ for he election of a Member for the bury ugh of Greenwich, in the room of Alderman Sake:nous, wno had refused to take the oath of adjuration in the form prescribed.—(Lend and prolonged cheers for the Opposition benches ) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was very much surpria, d at the co arse pursued by the , n. and Learned Member.—(Cheer-, and cries of Hear, hear.") He had reason to compl4in of his making such a motion, after the suggestion had been almost agreed to for the adjournment of the question until Mon day. He hoped he would not proceed with the motion. Sir F. THESIGER said it was certainly not his in tention to do anything more then concur in the ad journment; but when the Honou: able M, mber for Middlesex called him to order, he felt it necessary to conclude with a motion which would give the House to understand precisely the course which he intended to adopt on Monday when the subject again came under discussion.—(Cheers.) Mr. B. 0813oRNE and Mr. ANSTEY then rose and attempted to speak, but were met with loud and boisterous cries of " Order!" which compelled them to resume their seats. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said his object in proposing the adjournment was to pre vent an outburst of that sort of feeling which was evidently rising in the House. He was sure every Member was anxious to avoid that degree of angry feeling which prevailed on a similar occasion last ye er.—(hear.) He trusted the motion, after this ex planation, would be withdrawn. Sir F. THESIGER said he was ready to de so, as the motion had now served its purpose.—(Hear.) The motion was then f ermully withdrawn. Mr. B. OSBORNE wiled the lion. and Learned Member whether it was his intention to move the motion again on Wedgy?—(Hear.) Sir F. THESIGER—I am afraid, if I answer the Hon. Gentleman's question I shall be considered out of order.—(Loud cheers from the Opposition benches.) PETITIONS. Major BERESFORD presented several petitions from places in Essex against the navigation-laws, and pray for an alteration of the law in regard to foreign im portations. Sir J. WAL\ISLEY presented a petition from Liver pool against the paper and newspaper stamp duties. Sir P. NUGENT presented a petition from a place in Ireland, praying for protection agaiust the importation of foreign fl , ur. Mr. T. DUNCOIIBE presented a petition from a society calling themselves the Friends of Italy, praying that steps might be tsken by her Majesty to prevent the continued occupation of Rome by the French troops. IRISH BILLS. _ . Several private Bill;l;a7ingl;;;read and agreed to, Mr. ROCHE wished to know whether the Govern ment would have any objection to fix a morning sitting for proceeding with several important Irish Bills which were on the paper. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said those bills would be fixed for a . morning sitting on Thursday next. The House then went into Committee of Supply. After a short discussion, the vote of 9.8331. for the Schools of Industry, at Dublin, was ogred to. Votes also of 6001. for the Female Orphan Asylum, and 1,7501. for the Westmorel,nd Lock Hospital, and 6501. for the Lying-in Hospi al, in Dublin, were agreed to. On a vote of 38,000/. being proposed fur the support of Irish PreNtlyteriin Ministers, Mr. WILLIAMS objected to paying money for the support of Irish ministers. In Scotlaud and England no grants were made, and he =raw nu reason why any such ,hould be matte for Ireland. He should move to disallow this vote. Mr. M'CULLAGH said the Hon. Member for Lam beth had certainly surprised him for once. If any ob jection to the vote was to be made, he should have thought it would have been to the smallness of it. Mr. C. LEWIS defended the vote. It had been first granted by the Irish Parliament in the Revolution, and had been continued ever since. Mr. C. ANSTEY opposed the vote on the grounds of consistency, having always voted against the MAynooth grant. Mr. W. J. FOX suggested that the vote should be reduced annuslly wail at last it should cease altogether. Mr. S. CRAWFORD being opposed to all grants fur religious purposes should support the disallowal of this vote. Mr. HAMILTON did not see any objection to the vote, as it scarcely amounted to more than 601. per an num for each Minister. Mr. E. B. ROCHE supported the vote, as he thought this was a very improp-r time to withdraw it. After a short discussion the House divided, when there appeared — For the grant ll5 Against it Majority (LEFT SITTING ) THE LONDON GAZETTE. (T HIS EVEN IN G.) At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 17th day of July, 1851, present, the Queen's most excellent Majesty in Council. Her Majesty hating been pleased to ap point the Right Honourable Charles William, Earl of Setton, to be Lord-Lieutenant and Custos Rotulorum of the county palatine of Lancaster, his Lordship this day took the oaths appointed to bo taken thereupon, instead of the oaths of allegiance and supremacy. BOARD OF GREEN CLOTH, BUCKINGHAM- PALACE, JULY 16. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Major Thomas Middleton Btddulph to be Master of tier Majesty's House hold, vice Major-General George Bowles, resigned. F OREIGN -OFFICE. JULY 15. The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. Bern hard Homier as Consul-General in the United Kingdom for his Highness the Duke of Nassau. WHITEHALL, JULY 16. Th e Queen has been pleased to direct letters patent to be passed under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom, granting to Major-General George Bowles, the office or place of Lieutenant of her Majesty's Tower of London, in the room of General John Sulivan Wood, deceased. oilt6s.t.toWei,a,m John The Jordan arid Le Ge e Utt g to 4.! ne a Supernume rary Lieutenant, in the Artillery Company ot London. WHITEHALL, JULti 18. The Queen has been pressed to pre6ent the Reverend GeorKe Alurray to the church and parish ot Belmaclel tan, tu the prexbytery end s.ewartry of Kircuobright, vacant by the death of the ItevereLd William Wilson, late minister thereof. CROWN -OFFICE, JULY 16. MEMBERS RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS tftEIIEXT PARLIAMENT. Borough of K naretborough—Thcmas Collins, jun , of Knareahorough, in the county ot York, Esq., in the room of the Right Hon. William S.-bright Latcelies, deceased. Borough of Arundel—The3 c o un t yßight lon Nottingham~ Strutt, of Kingston-hall, in e of in the room of Henry Granville Fitsalan Howard, com- THE SUN, LON DON, monly cal:ed Earl o! Arundel tv_:d Surrey, who has ae 04pted th© cffice of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds. WAR OFFICE. JULY 18. 4 11 Regiment of Dragoon Guarus—Lieutenant Mi cha-1 M•Creagh to be C Train, by purchase, vice N.colls, who retires; Cornet James Robert Sew t to be Lieutenant, by putoila , e, vice M•Cr,.-agla; Cornet Robert Joan 1 - 1 t nry to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vine Wynne William Rudyerd Williams, who retires, July 18. 3d Light Dragoons—Captain Edward Fellowea, from hall-pay, unattached, to be Captain, vice William Howe Hadfield, who exchanges, rec,iving the difference be tween full pay of Cavalry 7th Light Dragoons—Cornet Henry William Mere dyth to be Lieutenant , by puichsse, vice Farrell, who retires; Cornet Frederick Coates, from the 14th Light Drsgoons, t) be Cornet, vice Meredyth, July 18. 11th Light Dragoons—Sergeant-Major Robt. Richard Harrison Dungate to be Cornet (Riding Master), by purchase, vice logli., promoted, July 18. 17th Light Dragoons—Lieutenant William H. Ken nedy Erskine to be Captain, by purchase, vice Hamilton, who retires; Cornet Sir William Gordon, Bart., to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Erskine, July 18. 31. t Regiment of Foot—Staff Surgeon of the second Class John Burton St. Croix Crose to be Surgeon, e a l c o n a A g n r tr l e : einsesei,rL,a July va L l II Lieutenant u promotedt e Nugent nantot a nto Isaac be vice 58 : Mill i F l 1 o kn o g Ltp_ e ui n ercu , c t w haepun h st o ationi, e ttl x .vc c i cc h , Un attachedliujorby Rhodes Cooper to be Captain, by purchase, vice Nu gent; Ensign Fr. derick Palmer to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Cooper, July 18. 96th Futit--Ens , gu Alfred John Ford to be Lieute- nar.t, by puicht,se, ;ice Rogers, who re►ires. Roy al Canadian Itflo Regiment —Charl , s Thomas Castle, Gent., to be En:i b ;n. by purchabe, vice Laue, priunoted, July 18. UNATTACHED.-116jor Charles Augustus Arney, from the 58th Foot, to be LituzeLamt-Colonel, by purchase, July 18. _ _ _ liostirrAL STAFF,—Surgeon John Crespigny Millin gen, from the 31st rout, to be Staff Surgeon of the Second Class, vice Crosse, who exchailes, July 18. MEMORANDA.—The Six Cadets of the Hon. the East India Company's Serivce, inserted in thu Gazette of the 27th ultimo, are to be plic4-d under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel Harry D. Junes, of the Royal Engi neers, instesd of Lieutenant Colonel Sir F. Smith, tur field instructions in the art of Sapping and Mining. Lieutenant Thomas Cutting, on half-pay of the 3d Line Battalion King's German Legion has bsen permit ted to retire from the service by the sale of his commis , sion, he being about to become a settler in South Aus tralia, July 18. Lieutenant Colonel Samuel Dilmaa Pritchard, upon half. pay, Unat; ached, has been permitted to retire from the army, by the sale of his commission, he being about to become a settler in Canada, July 18. Errata in Gazette of July 11. Bth Light Dragoons—For Edward 'Phillips, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice " Fits-Gibbon" promoted, read vice " Calthorpe, promoted." The Chrislian names of Ensign Lowe, of the 81. t Foot, are "Stanley John," not Juan Stanley, a proviourly stated. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, JULY 17. Royal Riltment of Artillery—Second Capt a in H enr y William Slontresor to ba Captain, •ice Turner, retired on full pay; Firtit Lieutenant Guy It.tton to be Second Captain, vice Muntretior; Second Lieutenant Henry 11i mtlton Cunolly to be First Lieutenant, vice Rotton, July 2. WHITEHALL. JUL! 1. The Right Hon. Sir John Jervis, Knt., Lord Chief Justice of her Majeity'r Court of Common Pleas, at ‘Vestwinster, hat. appottited Charles Stockdale Benning, of Dans:able, in the County of Bedford, Gentleman, to be one of the Perpetual Commissionera for taking the acknowledgin ,, nts of deeds to be executed by married women, under the Act paved for the abolition of fines and recoveries, and the aub4titution of more simple modes of assurance, in and f r the county of Bedford, also in and for the counties of Hertford and Buckingham. BANKitUPTS. Randall Acres, jun.. inukly-per,Puckeridge, Hertford shire. to surrender July 26 und Aug. 30, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansfeld, ufficial assignee; Jelikincon, Stveetitrg, and J, nkinsol, Clement's-lane, Lombard-street; Richardson, Much Hadham, Herts. Richard Matty, Lucy colour paper manufacturer, Paul's Wharf, Upper Thames-street, City, July 26 k.nd Avg. 30, ut one, at th , , , Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, offic al assignee; Loughborough, Austin Friars. Henry Charles Frost, boarding house keeper, Russell squlre, July 26 and Aug. 30, at one, at the Court of Bsukrup cy. Graham, official assignee r StAnberg, Bread-street, Cheapside. Robert Summers, pawnbroker, Bath-street, City-road, Aug. 1, at eleven, and Aug. 30, at half-past twelve, at the Court of Baukruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Whittington, llean-stre- t, Fin,bury-square. William Brunskill, ribbon manufacturer, Paternoster row, July 25, at half.past twelve, and Aug. 28, at half past one, at the Court of t ßsnkruptcy. Carman. official assignee, Birchin-lane; Crowder and Maynard, Coleman street. William Buchanan, picture dealer, Gerard-street, Soho, Jnly 29, at one, and August SO, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell. official assignee, Guildhall-cham bi,rs. Basinghall-street; Bodman. Buckle rebury. William Henry Barrett, miller, Gloucester, Aug. 6 and 29, at eleven. at the Brit- 1 District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol; Bretberton, Gloucester' *John Welch, coach builder, Nantwicb, Chester, July 28 lad August 18, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Cezenove, official assignee, Liverpool; Brough ton, Nantwich. _ i6unnis Lean Owens, woollen draper, Manchester, July 29, and August 26, at twelve, ut the Manchester District Court. Frasor, ttEcial assignee, Manchaater; Sale, Worthington, and Shiptu:d3, Manchester. FRIDAY 9s 51 to 93 6d; Gin for Paportation 2s 6d; Geneva is 7d to 13 83, and tine 13 9J to 23. Immo afternoon the public sale of 200 chts da , uag,d East India Ilidigo went a. moderate rates, but all sold at from 7d to 2s 6 L Or Guatamala 80 srns sold rather cheaper, damaged Is 31 to 13 6d, and sound 23 8d to 4e. _ COCHINEAL. — This afternoon a greater desire was evirc,,d to operate in C( chin; al. and prices advanced Id per lb. At public sale 130 bags sold at 3s to 31 3d for low and mid Honduras Silvers, and ord black 3s 3d to 3. 5d per lb. OILS —To dey at public sale 50 tuns Sperm sold at 31/ to 83/ 15; for British, one lot 86110 s, low American 72/; 60 tons Southern 301 to 32155; 170 casks E.I. Teel Seed 291 to 341; 100 pkgs E.I. Rape Oil 31/ 15s ; 40 mks refined Spermaceti is 1 TALLOW.—To-day at public 99 pipes, 2 bhds South American Tallow sold at 37s 6d; 211 casks Australian —Mutton, first quality 37s 3d to 37s 9d, second 361 6d to 375; Beef', first quality 36s 6d to 36s 93, second 35s 81 to 36s 3d. P. Y. C. is firm on the spot at 37s 93. CALIFORNIA. From S%n Francisco, Culifornis, our accounts, ex- tmOing to the Ist of June, are of a very remarkable character, apart entirely from the enormous and in creasing amount of remittances reported from Panama. Large quantities of gold, extracted from the quartz near Sonora by the very simple process of crushing the rock with a hammer, were arriving in San Franci,co, and operations on an extensive scale with powerful machinery had been opened. Nrvuda journals contain the following strikine, reports of the progress of machinery in that cl•stlict:— " There are BOW two steam quarts crushing-mills in successful rperation, and five more in process of erection, one of which is to be started to work in a day or two, this latter by Messrs. Collins and Cropet, having six stamps, each weighing 650 pounds, and working to ge+hor in a common trough, which is securely built of the most solid materials, and capable of withstanding any force that may be applied, and calculated to crush about LO tons of quartz per day. " Mr. Abbey's mill was the first one which was set to work, having now been in operation since about the 20th of February, and dues a Lair amount of business. About a mile and a halt from Urass valley, and near Opbir-hill, a mill is being put up by Messrs. Richardson and Sowers, with a prospect of doing a very good busi ness when once in operation. " The heaviest machine in the valley is now in pro cess of erection for Judge Walsh, and is expected to be in operation by the Ist of June. The mill is to com mence work with a battery of 18 5501 b. stamps ' calcu lated to pulverize 40 tons of quartz per day. As the business or the mill increases, the batteries are to be in- creased to 40 stamps. '• On the Ist of June it is expected that the mill of rs. Peck and Co. will also be in operation, driven by an engino of 30 horse-power, and running 20 stamps of 5501 b. each. These will also be worked on the improved trough or ' box principle.' " The Sacramento City Company, Colonel J. Hays and Company, will have their machinery in operation within a few days, driving the stamps in two equal batteries." The .Stockton Journal learns that the quartz veins a Carsom's Creek are yielding immense returns. It says— " In one place the workers took out 901 b. of pure gold in one day. In three days the same party took out 150,b. of unalloyed ore. To those who are sceptical as to the value of the quartz vein* with which the whole section of the San Juaquim district is diversified, this account may appear somewhat exaggerated; but, from the au thority on which we give this Extraordinary news, we can Wily assure all doubters that there is not more truth in the meet ord,nary and well attested every-day occur rences than theta is in our statement." A San Francisco journal says — •4 We were shown yesterday, at the office of Moffat and Co., some 501 b. of geld specimens, brought from a ;old mine iu Calaveras. They had been hammered le : naffed out of the quartz rock, aud, trona their appearance, the rock must be the richest we have yet seen. Indeed, the wealth of this mine appears inexhaustible. " The stockholdsra of the Deseret Mining Company have just held their annual meeting at Los Angeles. This company are now in active operation at their mine, about 250 miles from Los Angeles, and have two mills at wolk. Two shafts have been sunk, one 40 and the other 16 feet deep, aud about 150 tons of rock have been thrown out. 15 men are employed, and preparations are being made to erect more mills. The company is very sanguine of success, aud have exhibited some beau tiful specimens. They have, as yet, had not difficulty with the Indians at their mine, although some of their prospecting parties have been charged upon by the Utah* who, discovering them to be Aaiericans, treated them with the utmost kindness." Letters from Downsieville, dated May 19, in the San Francisco papers, add— " Dry diggings are numerous and are being discovered in every direction, and almost every new strike' is richer than the last. Dorgan's Flat, opposite the town, has turned out over 200,000 dolls. within the last two months. One cloim, belonging to some gentleman from Pittsburgh, having yielded over 12,000 dolls., and was sold a few days since fur 6,000 dolls., cash, and has al most repaid the purchasers already. I have seen 2,100 dolls. for one day's work for two men—all large, coarse gold. Large deposits of quartz have been found be tween this place and Indian Creek, which prospects' very large from the specimens brought in. A quantity has been sent to Nevada to be experimented upon, and but little doubt exists that it will pay at least 50 per cent. Miners are urrivirg in large numbers every day, and many arc leaving here with their 'piles' for home. Living is cheap: fresh beef, pork, flour, butter, Sze., plentiful and cheap, and but few who board themselves spend more than 1 doll, per day." From other sources we extract the following addi tion *1 items:— " Rumours have been rife of late that the veritable 'Laguna d'Oro' has been found. Whatever may be the cute, near Rich-bar, on the North Fork of the Feather Raver, another bar has been struck, where 700 claims were taken up in one day, and those who had gone to work were getting from 10 to 50 ounces per day. This i nte lli gence , from such good authority, can hardly be doubted. The neighbourhood is known to be one of the richest, 43 men out of 400 having gone home this year with fortunes after a single season at Rich-bar. "There is a prospect that as unusual quantity of gold will go forward from this city by the steamer of the 15th. Freeman and Co. have already received more than 60,000 dolls., and their entire shipment will probably exceed 100,00 0 dolls. The price of dust at present ie not considered an inducement to sell, and the miners rather prefer to send it on themselves to getting less than 16 dulls. per ounce, even it it is almost one quarter black sand. The uccounts of further rich discoveries near Weaverville iuchne Us to the opinion that the Cayota diggings are likely to prove as extensive in this region emigrants from the Celestial Em utlhaitsiuciaityis likely to be a rapidly in within the last week. Toss thousands of these holiest sins industrious people will be among us in two or three s c ep glri element a tSsehiNonta, "Some veeoaoti arrived vdr er l deP;i : nP e f o t y ears more. 11l all dumeetic pursuits their services are not surpassed, while in the mecnanic arts their habits of imitation make them apt scholars. There is no doubt but thet extensive contracts will be entered into to bring the Chinese to California, and their services will be chosen here fur any and all duties to which they are suited. As the opposition among the Celestials to emi at we may expect to find them x t end - in rgc their journey a to the Atlantic board, and more im portant results than are now anticipated will follow from ziin w thi s movement. In the sugar and cotton fields of the tomb it is wore than probable that this labour could be wears away used as that of slaves, whose cost of keep ing s a farsprogfiretslya b ter than the economical Chinese. There i are many strauge things in the future, which the Ame rican o California promises to hasten before our e Chinese have only led the way. The Jupau, u • will • fi:)soti of soon follow in their match." 011 other petota the San Francisco journals contain little intelligence of interest. San Francisco was rapidly recovering from the effects of the late destructive con fl,grEcion; three-fourths of the streets devastated were -,gain rebuilt, and business was resuming its usual course. Stockton also had made considerable progress in re building; and, as regards the markets, neither of the dieasters bad had the effect on prices which was antici pated, the vast quantities of goods on shipboard and en route being more man adequate to meet the demand. Of affairs in the interior the Alta California says:— " The Whig and Democratic parties have each made their nominations, and the contest for State officers and Cougrese is now fully opened. The Whig nominations were made with much unanimity. and probably the De mocrat* will give quite as undivided a support to their nominees. Rumoars of Indian difficulties and skir misning in the northern part of the state are rife. The despised Indians have proved themselves not lacking in courage, and it is to be deeply regretted that a few indi viduals have had the power and want of principle which has made a war with these wretched creatures quite pro bable. There never has existed in the nature of the case any necessity for such a deplorable condition of things. 'rho prospects of agriculture aro very good—much better than was at one time anticipated. The late rains have materially increased the probabilities of good crops. This employment of a portion of our citizens is certain to be an increasing and profitable one. The Indian Cem missioners have met with excellent success in their efforts to pacify thelndians,and only need the sustaining arm of Goveinment at home, with reasonable appropria tions, to render the State and nation a most excellent service. The first execution under the laws of ibis state took place in Stockton on Thursday last. It was ter murder. Crime has been considerably checked of late, and there is some hope for a better state of things iu future." ft • THE " OLD CITY GAS LIGHT COMPANY."--The " Great Central Gas Consumers' Company," the " great central" Example of independent self-supply by " gas con sumers," has sunk from its great central position into a mere addendum to the "Old City Gas Light Company," having nu sooner ove-come all the strenuous endeavours of the said company t bl,ckguard it, to obstruct, and to strangle it, than it has !alien into the open arms of this its bitterest enemy unable to stand alone, we presume, atter so much exhaustion. Our opinion of such amalgamations has been often enough expressed. Negotiations such as these have never yet had 'he public good as their real object or result, however obvious it may he that one consolidated company could (if it would) supply that public at a cheaper rate than while in competition as two distinct establishments. The real object is a fancied interest in sacrificing the public's ultimate hopes by preventing the further reduction of prices conse quent upon a continuance of competition with each other. — Builder. Tu E MOORS.—Tbe young birds are alresdy strong on the wing, are as large tiß partridges, and altogether pro mise to be a match for the quickest eye and the steadied band on the approaehing " Twelfth."..-4bor dem ',lomat PRICE OF SUGAR. The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, com puted from returns made in the week ending July 15, 1851, excluiive of Customs Duties paid or payable thereon on tfia importation thereot into Great Britiiin:— From the British possessions in America 263. Bid. per cwt From the Mauritius ... 253. 9* From the East Indies ... 283. 141 ~, Average price of the three foregoing de scriptions of sugar, jointly, computed as above, and exclusive of duty ... 265. 7 „ By authority of Parliament, HE,NRY BICKN ELL, Clerk of the Grocers' Company, Grocers'-hall, July 18. MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current, July 18 SUGAR —To-day transactions in all aorta of West India Sugar were up,,n a lirnit , d scale, amounting to only 515. making fur the week 2,467 hhds, &c.; prices closed fully 6d per cwt under those of Fraley last; there is alio no decresaw of supply, and merchants ar• desirous to realise. REFINED —To-day R-fined Sugar was in good de mand fur home trade purpoies, but at 463 6d to 494 there are B,llers of low to time grocery Lumps. In Crushed Sug.r tht-re is tittle doing fcr shipping. This alt9lllooll there was a further dectinw ut 6,1 per cwt at the public sales of 5,228 begs Alemritius Sugar, but all sold. low y,ll.tw w,-nt at 343 to 35,, mid to good 35s 6 i to 375, tint 383 to 39. 6d, low to tine blown 308 to ,33s 6:1, grey 33s to 371, and good grainy )etlow 30s to 31e per cwt. EA6T afternoon Bengal Sugar wail ope rated in with caution, and of 1,590 bags at auction a part only sold at 6d to Is per owt decline. Benarea mid white went at 38s 6d to 393, and mid soft yellow 34s to 355. In Madras little done privately, and none was offered at auction. FOREIGN —To-day the private operations in Foreign Sugar were upon a smiAl scale, but holders of Purtu Rico and Ilavannah r:fused to sell at any further de cline. At Auction 2 420 begs low brown unclayed Manilla sold at 286 6d to 29s being rather cheaper.:. MOLASSES —ln consequence of rather lower rates having been submitted to operations are upon a more extended sc.sle. Of Porto Rico 250 casks have been olct priva ely at l3i 6:1, 200 puns West India at 153 6d for Antigua, and other sorts at 13s to 14s wi h small parcels of Bengal and Mauritius at 123 par cwt. At wietion 200 casks Porto Rico were taken in 13s to 14s 6d per cwt. Honey is offered rather under last wi ek's rates. _ _ COFFEE.—Today the Coffee market presented a firm aspect, the home and export demand is also good. At auction 20 casks 7 barrels and 250 bags Jamaica sold at full rates, fine floe ord and low mid 45s to 50e, other sorts 36* to 44a, and triage 343 to 40s. Of Plantation Ceylon 55 casks only a part sold, owing to stiffer rates being a,ked; low middling and middling went at 49s 6d to 53s 6d, other sorts 42s to 495, and pea berry 60s. Native Ceylon in fair demand at 37s 6i to 38s per cwt. (.. , t coU —There is rather more demand for Foreign, and rates are firm, Bahia and Para at 25e to 275, and Guayaquil 29s to 30s. West India has been in good de mand and the rates obtained are rather above those pre vailing previously. At auction 402 bags were sold, mid red at 43r to 445, for mid grey 38a to 39a, and damaged 36s per cwt. The rates paid privately for Granada have been from 33s to 405 per cwt. TEA.—To-day holders of Tea were more disposed to realize, and submitted to rather lower rates; the conse quence was, that of 8,200 pkgs pissed the public sales 4.500 sold; low and good ord Congou went at Sial to 10id, good common Youg Ily son is ltd. The sales will be resumed on Monday. RICE.—To-day East India Rico met with little at tention, and at public sale 2,734 bags Bengal sold at 9s to 9s 6d for good mid white, good 10s, and damaged ds to 105; these rates are 3d per cwt under those previously. 251 sacks and 85 casks Farina in part sold at 13a to 155 SPICES.—At public sale to-day 25 cases Penang Cloves were ecld at Hid to is lid ; on lot Is 2d ; these are lull rates. 6 cases Mace realised 2s 6d to 24 7d for go o d to fine, being toll prices. Thu demand for Nutmegs is better, and 40 pkgs went at a small ad vance, ord brown at 2s Id to 2s 6d, mid and good mi. 2i 7d to 2s 9d, repacked and wormy 7d to is 7d, ord limed is 3d to Is 9d, mid and very fine bold 2s 4d to 2s 11d. sPIRITS.—Therc are still few buyers of East India Rum, although merchants ate disposed to accept the mo derate r ate. of Is 3d to Is 3id proof. Iu Leeward Island sales have been small at is 4id to is sd; fine brown at is 50 to is 6d. With • Demerara the market is w e ll supplied, and p trcela are efferiing at is 10d to 2: ati for 30 to 40 over proof; but there are few buyers. Fine Jamaica continues in good demand both for home consumption and shipping; there is nu iucrerse of sui..pl), and rates ruas firm at brow 3s 3d to 5s 6d for 35 to 38 per cent over proof. Fur other sores the market is in a dull state, with sellers of low to mid at 2a 3d to 2s 7d for 30 to 33 over, and good mid to good at 2i ad to 35 4d for 32 to 34 wear proof. lor Brandy merchants appear disposed to sell Cognac best: Brands of the Vintage of 1850 at 46 4d to 4s 6d, 1849 data 45 6d to 4s Si, 1848 ditto 5s to 5a 2d, old, r 5s 51 to 7s, low and mid 2s 6d to 3s 6d; and Bordeaux 25 2d to 2s 3d. The value of British naG±.!.s.nirits is EVENING, JULY 18, 1851. BANK OF ENGLAND. (From this night's Gazetie.) An Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth o► Victoria,cap. 32 for the Week ending on Saturday, the k 2th day 01 July, 1851. Issuz DEP•B,TWENT. Notes 27,4:0,155 Z 27,450,155 Dated the 17th day of July, 1m Government debt .. 11,015,100 Other securities .... 3,984,960 Gold coin and bullion 13,416 7.0 Ailver bullion .... • . 33,375 X 27,450,155 M. MARSHALL, Cbief Cashier. 51. ETAITXEN T. Government securi ties (including Dead Weight Annuity)— 13,464,021 Other securities • • 12,389,725 Notes ••••••• • • • • • • • 7,259,11.0 Gold and silver coin.. 567A0 83,680,476 ILLE,SIIALL, Chief Cashier. NGE.-(THIS DAY.) •••••••••••• -- Leghorn •• •• •••• •• •• • • 30 3 5 lowa •••••........• .. 115 734 Milan ••-••••••••• • • •• Venizo.....• . • •• •• •• •• Naples .. ••••••• • • • •• 4l }ti nlermo,peroa.... •... 124 .............. 124 1 4 L.sbon• •••••••• • •• •• •• 153!i /port., 53y. gio Janeiro •....... • • , tuenos Ayres .. Yew York, 6O days'elght Philadelphia .... • • .. • • PitIOEB 07 'BULLION, PIA Oi. Foreign Geld in bars.. £3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin .. 0 0 0 ;panish Doubloons .. 0 0 Yew Dollars •• 0 4 11 Ni 1:411;;;In — b - a — rs 0 b BANKING D Proptiotorecapttal.. 14,553,000 Rest • • 3,N2,194 Public deposits (In cluding Exchequer, Commissioners of National Debt,Sav- Inge-banks, and D ividend accounia).. 4,319,318 Other deposits ...... 10,440,630 Sevon day and other sills•. •• .• •• .... 1,175,054 X 23,640,426 Dated the 17th day of July, 185 CJURSE OF EXCHA •• •...•• •.11 164 u Ditto. three months.. 11 1$ 'tottcrdam ........ • • 11 18% Brussels.. • • .• 25 22 h Ilamourgh • • 51.8. 13 7% Parls, 3 clays'sight 25 2h Ditto. 3 months .... 25 2.h 614.r.1.1111e6 •• •• 25 0 80urdeaux......... • trarilrlorton Mains.... 11E' Berlin • • .. • • ...... • • •• Vienna, effee. 50."... 11 46 Trieste, 11 47 Yetersbargk,Sll.Rble.. 37% %Wild •• •• •• •• •• •• •• 49% Cadis •• •.• •• .• •• •• •• 50% Barcelona ............ 5cythe................ IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COM lIONS. July 17. Mr. BEADLAM presented a petition in favour of the Arrest of Absconding Debtors' Bill. SUPPLY. On the motion for going into Committee of Supply, Mr. Sergeant MURPHY rose to call the attention o the First Lord of the Admiralty to the want of accom , modation for the repair of steam-vessels at Hawiboline; and to ask whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to provide the same. The Hon. Gentleman also moved for a Committee to inquire into the subject. Sir F. BARING opposed the motion on the ground of expense. Mr. E. B. ROCHE was quite aware that the Admi ralty did not spare expense, but he complained of the centralization of the expenditure to England. It was nonsense to talk of leaving the enterprise to private spe culation, because private resources had not effected these objects even in England. He considered it most unjust that while hundreds of thousands of pounds were ex pended in trying to make Holyhead and Devonport packet stations, that all aid was refused to Ireland in that way. Captain BOLDERO called the attention of the Admi ralty to the tact that although Sir H. Smith had written an urgent letter to have a reinforcemen , . sent to the Cape, yet, in consequence of the harbour of Cork not being in a condition to embark troops, the 12th Lancers had to by conveyed to England, and thus a delay of six days was the consequence. Admiral DUNDAS denied that Sir H. Smith had written an urgent letter for troops, or that any uuneces sary delay was cawed in the embarkation cf tete troops. Dr. POWER reminded the House that both the First. Minister of the Crown and the late Lcrd Auckland pledged themselves that a naval estabdsharent should be maintained at Cork. He remembered being one of a deputation who waited on Lord Auckland a few years ago, when be was First Lord of the Admiralty, and be distinctly pledged hiarielt that such should be done. Colonel CHATTERTON said he never saw a more wretched ship than that on which the port-admiral at Cork hoisted bis flag on a recent occasion. He also complained that the horses of the 12. h Lancers had to be sold previous to their embarkation. Admiral DUNDAS assured his Hon. and Gallant Friend that he was mistaken as to the flag ship of the port-admiral, for he had a large two-decker and a screw with hitn.—(A laugh.) As fur the horses of the 12th Lancers it was th.,ught better that they should be mounted at the Cape. Admiral BOWLES said that the late Government al ways looked on the her hour of Cork as one of great im portance, and when he was in office he had always con sidered it as such. It was of the greatest moment that such a harbour should be always lett in a proper condi tion, so as to render it net only a proper port for mer chant vessels, but for men-of-war. Sir W. H. BARRON reminded the House that they added thousands upon thousands on the naval ports of this country, but Ireland was to be abandoned, and lett to its own tesources. They destroyed her farmers, her landed interest, her milling interest, and now refused to contribute a single farthing in repairing one of the finest harbours in the United Empire. The Heuee then divided, when there appeared— For the motion ... ... 104 Against it ... ... 26 Majority —7B THE LIORFIELD ESTATE. Mr. P. MILES next tattled the attention of the House to the case of the Bisbrip of Gloucester and Bristol, and the charges lately brought against the Right Rev. Prelate. His object in bringing tha question forward was to clear the character of his Right R. v. Friend, and to show that the charges prererred by the Hon. and Learned Member for Cockermouth were totally without fuuudation. The principal of these was, that there was a moral responsi bility on the part of the bishop not to grant a lease of the Horfield estate, and be grounded that charge on the evidence of two witne:ses, and the fact that the two pre vious bishops who held the see made no such 1, ase. The Hon. Gentleman spoke in so low a tone of voice as to be rendered inaudible in the gallery. We understood him to say, as far as we could collect from the detached sentences which reached us, that as regarded the ques• Um of the renewal of the lease of the Horfield Manor, the Bishop of Gloucester bad sufficiently answered. That bishop was under no moral obligation to renew, and was bound alone, with regard to this matter, by the Order in Council of 1836, and that he was lett to deal with the estate as he pleased, and that his object in the transaction was to do the best for the public good. He said the correspondence stated by the Hon. Gentleman as having taken place in 1822, did not occur until 1847, and that the account given of it was so diffuse, that he could not arrange it. The Hou. Gentleman stated that the bishop was under a moral abligation not to renew the lease. Now, he had the authority of the bishop to say, there was not a word of truth in that statement. Io 1847 there was a ueotta lion with the Eiteleaiastical Commissioeere for tne sale of the estate, told sub-eqeently uu off r was mace by the bishop to Felt it for 11,5001.. but that wan broken eff and nut concluded, and that traws.acf km was known to ail the other bishops. From that time to the de oh of Dr. Sbadwell nothieg was dune to eff et a sale. The bishop then appointed Mr. Holt, of Gloucester, his secretary, as lessee, and instead of putting in the lives of his three sons. as alleged, he put in the lives of the three &lel Princesses.—(Elear, hear,) Gleat stress hod been laid on the value 01 the eacat. , which was said to amount te a rental of 3,4001., whereas it did not exceed 555/, which was also subject to deductions. When he ape pointed his own secretary, that gentleman gave up a living of between 7,0001. and 8,000/. a year, and there fore he would derive a less income; and as a slur had been thrown on his title he uppoina d his decal secretary to secure the property. Ho hoped he had said sufficient to exonerate the bishop from any blame. In his own diocese be was respected for his liberality and kindness, and his subscriptions were greater than those of any previous bishop. He therefore tboughr, to quote the words of the Hon. Member, " that the R'ght Rev. Prelate would be again able to hold up his head as an honest man." Mr. HORSMAN said the Hon. Gentleman had cer tainly made his statement with great fairness, and where he had censored it was in the lightest manner that could be unpleasant to him. This was not a question between him and the bishop; it was a charge which, if true, affected others as well as the Bishop of Gloucester. If the indictment was found that th 3 Biahep of Gloucester had devastated the estates of the Church it lay also against others. It was a public question. He knew nothing of it but from evidence taken before a Csmasittee of that House, but the Hun. Gentleman made no refer ence to that evidence. What was the statement that he (Mr. Horsenan) made? It was this, that when the 13athop of Gloucester emcee+ did to the see, the estate of Horfield rested upon one life, and that both the previous bishops had refrained from renewing. That Bishop Grey had attempted to renew, not when the first life fell in, but when the two first lives dropped, but that he re frained from doing so, because be could net obtain an adequate fine. He also waved that when Bishop Allen succeeded to the see, Lord Melbourne required from him a pledge that he would not renew, and that Bishop Allen had not, during his time, made a renewal. He stated this upon the evidence of Mr. Richards, twenty years per petual curate of Horfield, and well acquainted with the estate, who stated that he had frequent conversations with Bishop Grey on the subject, and that he heard him state he would not renew because he could not get the price he asked, as he pretested the see should have the benefit rather than his own children, and would ra ther let the lease lapse under such circumstances. This was corroborated by a letter written by Bishop Grey's son, in which it was stated that negotiations had been going on for three years previous to the bishop's death, and that the sum was refused as inadequate, for the bishop, as was well known, was not a man to do dirty work by enriching his family at the expense of his sue ' cessors.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member had not alluded to the evidence taken before the Church Leases Committee on this subject. The case of the Bishop of Gloucester had been stated elsewhere, not more ably but more artisti cally. Mr. Richards stated in his evidence that commu nication had been made after Bishop Grey'e death to Let d Melbourne, with regard to the Uortield estate, and that he knew au attempt had been made for a renewal, and that he knew that no attempt had been made tor a renewal during Bishop Allen's time. because Dr. Shea well would have informed him if such had been the case. He (Slr. Horsman) did nor say there was direct evidence of these transactions, but that there was strong circumstantial videnee to show that Bishop Allen had been required by Lord Melbourne to give a pledge that he would not renew. Bishop Allen himself stated that a renewal ought not to be fur lives. Now, how was this evidence met? In another place witnesses were referred to, tepresented as of unimpeachable veracity. First, there was the evidence of Mr. Vincent Stukey, who staid that the bishop refused to renew because the least. would not give the price aAted. Lie added that what he stled was not of his own knowledge, but what he learned from others. Ho furth,r stated that the pre- sent bishup would not take the fine offered. Every an swer of th!s gentitnan was given in the most cautious tninner, and showed that he knew nothing of the trans action. The Right Reverend Bishop who defended the ftiehop of Gloucester said these sentiments were derived from a surveyor in the neighbourhood, who was notorious fir his ovposiiion to the Church and Churchmen. The person referred to was Mr. Stukey. Mr. P. MILES said the person referred to was Mr. Sturge, nor Mr. Stukey, who was the great banker. Mr. HORSMAN—He could only say that every an swer of Mr. Stukey was given on hearsay. Now he would come to Mr. Sturge. He stated there had been negotiations between the Biahop of Bristol and the lessee referring to bishop Grey, not Bishop Allen, who MIS then Bishop of Ely. He would now come to a part of the evidence in which the Bishop of Gloucester totally denies the whole matter, and when he alluded to it, he hoped that the House would take the whole matter into consideration.—(Hear, hear.) He saw that there was a considerable degree of ingenuity practised in 1842, and that the plan was also endeavoured to be carried on in 1847, which he looked upon as most unjust, and which he believed the House would totally disapprove of.— (Hear, hear.) He argued this on the evidence of the blue book, which was worthy of the consideration of the house—(Hear, hear)—and which was diametrically opposed to the evidence of the Bishop of Gloucester. — (Hear, hear.) It was said that in 1848 the Bishop of Gloucester offered to make over this property to the Ec clesiastical Commissioners on what they considered to be liberal terms, and that the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon (Sir James Graham), who was chair man of a Committee at that time, to whom the matter was submitted for consideration, was favourable to the transaction; but all the agreement then entered into, as it appeared from Mr. Murray's evidence, was, that the Commissioners assented to the t- rms of the bishop's offer, not because they considered it liberal, but in order to save the estates from indefinite alienation. He con ceived that the Commissioners might have so acted in order to avoid a state of things occurring which would to attended with greater difficulty. He made these charges in that House the other night in the presence ot seve ral Ecclesiastical Commissioners, and not one of them had contradicted them, but so far from that being done, the motion of the Honourable Member for Bris tol on the subject was withdrawn from that House altogether, and introduced in another place, where there were none of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners present to approve or disapprove of it. There was one other point to which he would direct the attention of the House. The Act by which the sees of Bristol and Gloucester were united, was passed in 1836. At the time of his appoint ment to those sees the bishop was to receive the tempo ralities of both, the one being represented at 9251., and the other at upwards of 3,0001. per annum, and the Act uniting them fixed the income of both at 5,0001. per an num ; but, instead of that, the average income derived from them by the bishop had, for the last 14 years, been 7.2281. per annum, and in 1848, the income wee 11,1071. In 14 years, therefore, the bishop had an increase of income of 32,0001., over the 5,000/. he was allowed by Act of Yarliatnenr.—(Hear, hoer.) He thought the Ecclesiastical Commissioners were wrong in not making proper stipulations as to the property of Her field, as their doing so would have prevented the evils which had taken place, as the Bishop of Gl. ucester had now renewed the lease of that property for three lives for the benefit of his family. On a former occasion ho stated .hat the lease was renewed to Mr. Holt, the bishop's sec retary, but that it was for the lives of his own family. That was the information he received, but they were now told that the lives placed in the lease were those of three of the children ot the Royal Femily, The Bishop of Gloucester, by doing that, had taken care to have three lives of a family notoriously long-lived, and associated the name of the Queen with a transaction which was anything but creditable.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member for Bristol had said, that for this property the b shop had given up a living of 7001. per annum, but he found that the living referred to was worth only 5001. a year, while the Hurfield estate, which he had taken pos session of fir three lives, now produced 3 0001. a year, and in course of the three lives might be worth 30.0001. a )ear. Here, then, was one ot the most valuable estst , s of the Church taken possession of by the Ecclesiastical Cuintnitei , ne re , by virtue of an Order in C.iuncil, alienated hum the Ch =hotel assigned tor. thr. a lives to the bishop's family. Now, though the bishop might have a legal right thus to alit nate the estate, he nuaintaine d there was amoral obligation upon him net to do so. Even the law was against granting lung leases of ecclesiastical property, tor the 13th of Elizabeth condemned the practice, and the Act .t' 1836, appointing fixed incomes to the bishops, evidently let ant that tee sum they might receive over 5,0001., the sum specifisd in the Act, was to be held by them in trust, and accounted fur to the Ec clesiastical Commissioners. It was no answer to say that the Bishop ot Gloucester had only done what other bishops had done, for be held that of all others the bishops of the Church, in the management of the pro perty apperteining to their office, ought to act so as to be an example to others; but was such the case? So tar from its being so, did they nut find that the bishops were the very worst adintuistrators? For how many churches might not have been Ludt, and schools erected, had not the sums bequeathed generations up, by charitable individuals, for charitable purpeses, been alienated from the purposes for which they were origiratly intended, by the prelates of the Church? lie, therefore, condemned the system of allow ing those paniea to have the right of doing with Church property as they pleased, as, were it properly ad ministered, and appropriated to proper objects, educa tion might be txtended, and crime diminished by it' unit the general well-being of the community greatly ad valiced. Alr. GLADSTONE said, when it was arranged that they should depart trues toe ordinary business of the night to enter upon an expatiation and a discussion re specting the Hurfield Manor, he confessed he little ex pected, after the statement that had been made by his Hon. Friend, that the Hon. Gentleman should have risen —not ill vinificiation of hunaelt, which he for one thought was much needed—but that he should have departed— sor to the inconvenience of the Hou s e end the delay ot public business—to such topics as the future condition of Hurfisid Manor, to the revenues of the see of Bristol and Gloucester, the conduct of the bishop of that see, and thence to the reveuttea and conduct of the bishops of all the other sees ot the Church.—(Bear, hear.) With reference to the state of the law on these matters, he agreed with every word that had ialleu from the lion. Gentleman.—(hear, hear.) Lie s fully t way ullycto e ic e u e r t r h e i d eg as t t e o d th e e . badness of our legislation; but tiounce bad legislation, and another to judge with if:- vsrity those who merely act under that bad system which the Legislature bad established. It was another thing, not teerety to deal severely with, but to misrepre sent • hew, us the Hon. Gentleman had deee,—(Bear, hear) lie would pass li g htly o ver ' o w e of the :Awe ments of the Hon. Gentleman, for he confessed he did not uhderataud some of those with regard to the see of Gloucester. The Honourable Gentleman said the revenue of that two was 10,0004 some iiuuereds in 184$, and that fi um epi.copal aeurees alone the bishop hall received 34.000/ more than he ought to have received. (Mr. llorsuitsu dissented.) The Honourable Gentleman seie, that including the two commeraLmv which yet th,d 1,700/ the rev, hue of the biainip in that year had be-eu 11,000/ ; did tie not strj, this , ? (Mr. Ilensmee—Yee ) Well, then, taking that 1,7001 from the revenue of the see, that, according to the Hun. Gentleman, would toy, only 9 30(1 from episcopal sources for that year. But It tie took the figures us given in the return ordered to be laid on the tattle of the House of Commons tor that ) ear be found that the revenue or the lirshop of Glou cester tor that year was only 6,2001, subject to a oeduc twu of about 2001., instead ci 9,3001, as stuted by the lion. Gentleman. Welt, then, the Hon. Genthenau said the Bishop of Glouc,ster had ree,ived 34,000/. beyond what he should have received hens episcopal sources. Mr. 11011 MAN—I said 34,000/. over his own cal culation. Mr. GLADSTONE—WeII, he would rake it that way. Over his own calculation. But he could find nothing of the knd in the returns laid beture the House fur the last seven years. According to these returns the net revenue or the see wa s— For the) ear 1844 ••• 1845 1846 •.• 1848 1849 ..... And for 1850 That was fur the last seven years, and he must say he was pubsied to know by w t h h e e tin fi g g e u e r u e i s the h ty ew the lio Bishop iGeenp tleman could make out by se had received 34.000/. more than he was entitled to. Mr. HOBS al AN said he reek the 34,0001. on the Bishop's 04u calculation, in 1836. Mr. GLADSTONE—That might be, but he had given the returns for the la s t seven years , and at all events it did net bear the statemeut that the income of he bishop in 1848 was 11,000/., and he wanted the Lion. Geiltl e e a mantoehowhowhei sulid tolls justify that statement. —(Hear, hear.) He entered lute t he spirit of every syllable uttered by the Hoe. Gentleman in the i abstract as to the d ut i es o f bi s hops, and th e s pi rit and la way was in bound which tot they say at the nd name nn should t ion—that bound bu t be teh duties;t with that our law t he pro needed upon a tot a lly different llii nisters and th e L eg i s l a ture of the day; and if we pla ce d them in triat position, it was not for the Hon. Gentle man coetCtmlae edluttoth ut he bishops to th e world, a Co cense duvets upon t h e m with severity and c ensure because they did not come up to his abstract ideas —his sound ideas in t hemselves.—(Hear, hear.) But let them gu to the statements originally made by the Honourable Gentlema n with res p ect to Hot field Manor. ese hthemselves a Be ,t 7et them, divided separate questio ns . I n th e first Gloucester has pursued a course which calls f or t h e censure o f h c l whetherntt9t was o two Bishop of understood be this House; and, In the second place, whether the Hon. Gentlemen had exercised due diligence in the examinee Lion of the fared before making these statements *pewit a prelate of the Church. The Hon. Gentleman had said t e e elortield Manor was worth a great deal now, and tbat it .i4would be much more vuluuble in future. He had n saying that i n ta ki ng t h e course ho had done be oneh sl e mac l a n acting under the conviction that he had legal power to du so; and though he might not have taken the course the Hon. Gentleman thought best, yet do not let the House con f oun d the possibility of future wrong-doing with the positive violation or engagements and breach of faith charged against him.—(Hear, hear.) The lion. Gentl eman wou ld agree with him in ore thing, namely, Viet under present circumstances the bishop could not, as a gentleman, &clam what his intentions were at the present moment. It he were to do so it would deprive of all grace whatever he meant to do in future in favour of the Church. He had a right to say, ' I will use my own discretion as to the time and niau ner in which I will do what I itaterel to do," But in the meantime the House had no ground for condemnation. It he used the great powers in his possession wrongly, then condemn him, but not at present, because the law had inr-seed him with these grLat powe rs, and at present they had no evidence whatev.4 that . he intended to mis use them.---(Hear, hear.) But what wad the state: meet of the Hon. Member? In the first place he sc+ l . ci that Bishop Grey at a CPI tAin period had geelarEd bid determination not to r6liew t h e l e ase of Horfield Manor, but to let it run out for the 13 , upfit ,:f the Church. Had that allegatton been sustained? On the contrary, it had been entirely broken down and by no ono more t han the Hon. Gentleman himself, because be had read a letter from a son of Bishop Grey, in which it was stated th at a few months b e fore his death an offer was made which, he refused, because it was inadequate.—(Hear, hear) That was a point blank contradiction to the first alle g e' tion. The second allegation was that Bishop Allen lied been bound by Lord Melbourne not to renew the lease during his incuinhency. The Hon. Gentleman had now withdrawn that allegation, and admitted that ho had 10 reason to make it. Mr. HORSMAN—I do not admit anything o f the kind. Mr. GLADSTONE—If the Hon. Member did Dot admit that, he had, at all cycles, made a great alteratioo. in the original allegation he formerly stated as one fact. He now stated it as one entirely of inference at' presumption, and it was on that ground alone the state- ment rested, that he did not mean to renew the lease h ° o ' Horfield Meteor. The letter of Bishop Allen to t , Ecclesiastical Commissioners, in which be offered the the lease of Horfield Manor, showed that he had no itr o tendon of sacrificing his rights, because he propos ed hand over the estate to them on condition that We.f would build a palace for his residence. Then the 12 - 1 1 Member made, what he could not help thinking fr, saying was a very remarkable statement ropeeii r e Bishop Monk. That statement was that ho kneel I' l l thing of moral obligation, but be was determined to stall on his legal rights. Mr. HORSMAN—I said nothing of the kind. j Mr. GLADSTONE repeated that was his decidt impression of the statement of the Hon. Gentleman . II .: had imputed to the bishop that, either in writing or t b was „ words, he hid stated that be knew nothing o f mural ° ligation, and as determined to stand upon his l e g tights. Did the Hon. Gentleman adhere to that? Mr. HORSMAN—I adhere to all that I said before; but I do not accept the representation of the Right 1 1 ° ° ' Gentleman. Mr. GLADSTONE did not wish to misrepre l , e te the Hon. Gentleman, but he would only s ay thet.c'elit principal of these charges had e n ti re ly f a il e d. " t b t a then, he understood that another capital point of case was, that when au arrangement h a d b een made "i; tween the bishop and the Ecclesiastical Commissioae rll 'o was stopped because it was detected as a j o b. Did i ta s Hon. Gentleman adhere to the principle of that st ° „, ment? He bud not given one tittle of evidence to $ 7:l port it, and it was important because it had been &t at o elsewhere, and the Hoe. Member knew it had, tha t t be , arrangement had not failed on its merits, but simply o pt cause the lawyers had advised it to begieen upon atise hs or some technicalities. These appeared to him t es ° ,o, the moat material allegations in the speech of the Ring theetlemau, and they had all vattiohed away oe b e e- 0 0, eubjected to the teat of examination, nor had the ' Gentleman, in his speech of nearly two houra,',, e night, said any hing that could sustain these 10 ,10 dons. But the Hon. Member had made much ' Tell letter, said to have been written by the biabop, in he said it would be diaperagieg to his character l' eti e thought of renewing the lease of airfield Mena. its he held in his hands another letter from the biaboe; o f which he did not treat the mere idea of the r enessod the lease a 5 disparaging and itijurieue . His o wn " • be , were, that it would be cisparaging to his c haracter ' SI were to renew the lease oil the same tenure of lives. e l, was to that, and not the mere renewal that he refe tr et and therefore that estate° passed away like all the Mr. LIORS MA N— Wron was the letter publiateuoill Mr. GLADS't ONE—If the Hun. Gentleman tb° l T e el the Bishop of Gloucester capable of using laericst' u, torged documents to suppurt his stateu.erate, titer' an Mr. ot the case. 1/ HORS M AN—I quoted from the blue he cli was that pamphlet of equal authority ? title Mr. GLADSTONE was not quoting anythieg t e eee tradictory to what had been stated by the ,"1, 0 9 Gen I. man. He was merely showing that the O cu lti considered it diaperegiug to suppose that hew es-all renew the lease on the same term of lives on ',„ — lto bold. Well, but you say " that is the ver y thiee ho t has done."—(Hear, hear.) Ile was not so sure of t h ,) The bishop was both lessor and leasee,—(A. la vg a rdo The Honourable Member for Guildford, who latigiol only laughed at his own mistake, and show e j d , st es t little he understood the matter. The bishop ha°,7 powers, and public opinion would hold him resP ° ,, l te fur the me he made of these powers. He mug, - : o ta fore, say, as far as he had been able to follow th e :" ev ments of the Henourable Gentleman, that he 11 , 4 " et bs tireiy failed in proving these eiseements, and t'' e - st* hai not shown reasonable care before making The Bishop of Gloucester had only exercised b ee doubted rights as an ecclesiastical p ro p r i e t or . se`" e i ll° agree with the Hon. Member in t hi n ki ng these were too great—that they rested on a wrong fouel,tee and ought to be amendsd; but that wao a totally jaw tent question from their exercise while they did e iel' and it was hard and cruel that a bishop should 1 ' 43 44 up to public odium who believed that he had beee!„ - es' with the moat munificent intentions towards the UP 9 6' —(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Gladstone) had full r dence in his honour, and that he would act on th lt r o ; ciples be had laid down for his guidance with r e, tss to Horfield Manor—that he would s till ac t in whit'. l been described by the Ecclesia s ti ca l Commissionr r- t eS a •' liberal" spirit. It seem e d c l ear th at hi s elle"or, wets to apply the money for renewal to the very'e; t e S' poses the Hun. Gentleman had in view, nanseil' augmeetetion of the small e r li vings i n hi s dioceiesi hoped the g. nerosity of t h ese i ntent i ons wou ld be, s tael t into consideration, and that th e f uture acts o f the w t- t tis' , would be lett to be visited with censure if be did l l° up to them; but ha called upon the House not t° demn him beforehand. Atter a few words in explanation froes HORS STAN, Sir J. GRAHAM expressed his regret at finow'el discussion going on when he entered the Houset! l ,lr l was not sure that it was fur the public benefit , bast oiscussion should be allowed to proceed.—(;fear , r p But he was afraid that his silence might be misc o ° s " 1 1 1 and therefore telt betted to state briefly his opinil;tit ka had not been appointed a member of the Etiel l e s ,:t ff,„ Commis/thin until 1841, and h e quit e agr eed w a re' present state of the matter was not, in many r; 0 1 , 1/1 satisfactory, especially in the distinctiuu betenkr e l episcopal and the common funds.—(L ou d cr i e s of :; o ter hear.") He thought such a di s ti uc ti on was mo st W a is t ! not only to the public, but to th e p re l a t es therP o of and he rejoiced that last ye a r a reme dy had SI 51 plied to this particular evil, and hoped that woli t u, s teen accepted as an indication that other reforee s , o 9, follow, lie had no acquaintance with the Bi s 'ofFe Gloucester and Bristol, save that arising from such course as arose from sitting at the common 1 )°,00, t " which they were members, and he was surprise Itiolitng at the high rt putesioe of the btshep as ti and a geed. matt, and one who was anything 17° > 0 ) M gnrdly in pecuniary matters—(h ar, hest; 'lest; charges ahod have been made y iga i„" hi m eat ef eti, the meltr, petetion he had sustained at t he I J ulf ~t Catubride, , , his character in hi s own di oce se, liv o st, / , fact that he was now approaching 70 years of n of j having during his long life sustain e d th e le putelt°i scholar and a ganclk-tuati, mad e h im d ee ply refi r e /1;; any transaction should have occurred which ftl e ppr i Member considered it his duty to bring before the la);,/./ in the terms he had.— (Hear, hear.) He must te i eP e tive ever, that the part et filch he bad taken on the ti ° "elit h 't sion, had led him to entertain no doubt whatever' a f of the high character or munificent intentions 010( bishop. H e h a d a r i g h t to exerctse t h e power s in him, and b e li eve d h e i nten d e d to d o so for t h e ber e e; the diecese. He only wished they could have a fr e e to l j ferenca where the Hon. Gentleman(Huri hear.) migh e i n ie l e ;s o o: f discussion with the bishop. fled these Right Reverend Prelates preternaturally ea; iu itords.-- Laughter.) But he put it to the LW,' ra tleteau, was it really worth while to hold u p the,i's he , tors, and plunderers? " Ir s° ° o t res enemy of the Church could not use w ail i pe i gunge, and he must say he almost blushed to he ar s la e tes t as robber, dette o li sh ° expressions. no was quite mire that the 111 0 00 Gloucester's reputation tor piety and moraliti d iI survive the imputations which had been cast q° 7 0 e, Ij the matter now under the consideration of the ast ° '"est i e Si r B. HALL was qui t e con fid en t th a t goes' eps: a rise to the public out of the discussion of th e filet, l i o n now under the co ns id erat i on of t h e House. to hear.) What ho now principally rose for wal l ' C 5; press a hope that the Government would appoi ll . .to mission with pj power and instructions to go 01 b• c' whola question of the temporalities of the Cher e r i ° et to ao constitute that Commission that 'fa ct°. e°- a male e count would b e g i ven o f suc h tempora li t ies 1 ", 8 0' perish. H e wish std to ask the Right li on ourah'.dget e tleman, the Member for the University of Caseb, fl o al tl e question on a matter which had come under 1115 0 11 `e • city, nam e ly, w h et h er th e re t u rn ma d e by tbe h ol r e of the gross income of their sees, was a fili t ' h isa,' 7 , 4 l turn of the incomes of those bishops ? The j ott e d were required to make a return to the Eeci e o s i Commissioners of the full value of the profits le vit/ sees, as derived by them, and they had made at atalthel but he was given to understand that they hau t ' e f leases either for their trustees, or for the benefi t 0 0'd own families ; but inasmuch as no money his ° ,.'io that no eccoaut bad been rendered of the nsetl e l i d, - 1 return. He found that the Bishop cf Durba o e tei,ta ceived 79.0001. more in that way than was aceol l ; o ti 'd in the flues, and he wished to ask the Right Ile°„js'oPe'lf' tleniau whether he could inform him that the e l °, greeted any leases for the benefit of his trustees °' ol o the end whether the full value had been set upon had? . 0 r 0 4 . Mr. GOULBURN was not prepared to ar l ' es tt o l; question put to him by the Right Hon. Btir ° „" e e t yl having hal any intimation that such a questi ° ,; r ill It be put to him. He, however, knew that the rad e ( ); laid doers by the Ecclesiastical Commissioncre give a fair result. With telsect to the Bishop den, he was enabled to state that in th e leasei h ar made he made sacrifices of fines which, under r , ° s ti ctunttaneea of letting, he might have obtainew oref, Sir B. HALL thought that the Right 1 1011 to 0 01 man misunderstood the question which he 0; 0 tette The Right lion. G-entlernen would find in l' l Bol return, p. 234, that the Bishop of London is to "or, received 13 5191. and that he had granted lea ses t etP sr self to the amount of 12,0001., and yet the r e fete' , peered to show telly 2,1614 The return, the r° It s what be shoted call a fallacious return. tha t Mr. GOULBURN could bear testimony S -s Bishop of Loudon had made very large sacrifice yePiol granting of leases. He granted leases fodf • 19 ( I -I • 0 , year, whereas had he granted them in the or' 0 0'0 1 the whole fine would have appeared. rol - of' a Sir R. INGLIS was glad to have an oProish e e doing justice to a Right Ray. Prelate Oil s pO 9 Gloucester) whose reputation had that ;lig' Mr. I Pup° of itleotnu country incom e fitl l4 hhnt Af,er lamter SUPT Th,, NAL iu On th 1 48,490 of e.)us Mr. this YO Speech t!ence fain, at Franc e on e wt tor e( and e office healti * as , The e Pent ueeat th e u