The Sun. — London, England, 1850-03-05 00:00:00

trti lEbittort SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock. THE NEW LORD CHIEF JUSTICE. Lord Campbell was this afternoon sworn in a Ser geant-at Law and Lord Chief. Justice of England in the Lord Chancellor's private room at the House of Lords. Mr. Justice Coleridge and Mr. Justice Wightman were present, and the Noble Lord, after the ceremony, received the congratulations of his friends. The ceremony took place shortly before five o'clock. GERMANY. The Committee of the Saxon Second Chamber on the German question had agreed to a series of recom mendations to the Ministry, urging the policy of ad hering to the Prussian Bund, and using its influence with Wirtemberg and Bavaria to induce them to join it also. There had been some rumours in Berlin of a postponement of the day of meeting of the Erfurt Parliament for three weeks, which, it was supposeN were connected with the pending debate on the iave propositions in the Saxon Chamber. ITALY. A letter from Rome of the 26th ult. says— " Yesterday 6,000 French troops marched out in fine order, commanded by General Baraguay d'Hilliers, when a sham fight took place. An immense concourse of the Romans went to see it. The rapidity (f movement and vivid firing were surprising. No accident whatever occurred, and the day was delightful. The General gave a soiree in the evening, which was attended by all the noblesse of Rome; it was remarked that no Cardinals were present." Letters from Rome in the Nazionale of Florence state that several thousand Austrians are shortly expected there for the ostensible purpose of raising the Imperial arms over the hotel of the Austrian Embassy. Cernuscbi, who was acquitted by the French court reartial of the charges brought against him, has been again arrested by order of the Cardinals, and will be • again tried on the same accusation. Letters from Leghorn, of the 23d nit., state that the fortress of Portoferrsjo is to receive an Austrian garrison. The Austrians are fortifying the fort of Portamurata, at Leghorn, on the land side. A battalion of Imperial cavalry arrived at Leghorn on the 221. Arrests are still the order of the day. M. Antoine Bonaparte has arrived from Marseilles, and proceeded to Florence. COURSE OF EXCH. A niterdam .......... 12 2% Ditto, at sight • ..... 12 1 Rotterdam .... • • ...• 12 2% ♦ntwerp • ....• 25 72% liamburgh • M.B. 15 13 dltona. • ........ • • .... Parts, 3 days'sigb t - • 25 50 Ditto, 3 months .... 25 70 Marseilles ••• • .• • 25 70 . 25 70 Trankfort on Maine.... 12114 Petersburgh, 811. lible .. 37% Berlin.... • ... .. •. • • Vienna, eine. do•- •• 11 48 Trieste, ditto.— 11 48 Madild •• •• •• •• •• •• •• 49% Cadiz 49". Bilbao.. ••• • •• •••• • Barcelona .. • • N GE.-(THIS DAY.) ( G1bra1tar............ •• Leghorn ........ •• ..•• 30 57% .. .. 2$ 0. Genoa .. • • • • .. Milan ........ Venice Naples .. .. ••.... • • 41% Palermo, .... 122 Messina .............. 122% Li5b0n................ 5334 0p0rt0.... • ..... • • .. • • 53% Rio Janeiro • • ...... • • iSnenos Ayres — New York, 21 days'sight Philadelphia .. • • .... rllozB OP BULLION, ?E1 021, 'Foreign Gold in bars.. £3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin 0 0 0 Spanish Doubloons .. 0 0 0 New Dollars • • 0 4 10,4 Silver in bars ...... •• 0 4 11% lieTille.. •• •• .. •• •• .. • MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current, March 5.) SUGAR.—To-day the market for West India Sugar presented a dull aspect, both grocers and refiners made purchases with much caution, but on the part of holders a disinclination was shown to accede to lower terms. Tile quantity sold was only 317 hhds. &c. There was no public sale of Barbadoes, indeed none is left in first hands. REFINED.—To-day there wai a good demand for Thfined Sugar far home trade purposes, and brown grocery Lumps aro not to be obtained under 48s 6d per cwt. Ti the value i f Bonded Crushed there is no varia tion, and litt'e business was done. MAURITIUS.—This nfxrnoon Mauritius Sugar was less in demand, and it a public sale of 5,785 bags 185 casks, not above half found buyers, at barely former rates; mid to good yellow went at 37s to 36s 6d, low 35s 6d to 36s 6d, fiL e brown 34s 6d to 359, other sorts 31s to 33, 6d, low 29s to 30s, refining kinds 34s 6d to 38+, and grainy 39s to 42s per cwt. . . EAST INDIA. - —Thii atteinoon the quantity of Bengal ,Sugar offered at public sale amounted to 3,979 bags, and prices declined is to 2s for brown sorts, whilst other kinds went rather chcaf er ; still nearly the whole sold, Benares, mid to good white went at 38s 6d to 39s 6d, fine 40s to 40s 6J, grainy yellow 40s 6d to 43s 6d, brown di.to 34s to 34s 6d, soft yellow 33s 6d to 37s 6d, low ditto 3ls 6d to 32s 6d, Khanr 26s 6d to 30s, and very low dark 26s 6d to 279. Of Madras 2,392 bags were offered, but a small part only found buyers at ls d. e.ne; ord and vt ry low soft brown went at 27s to 28s better solt 29s to 30s, and low to middling yellow 30s 6i to 33," per cwt. FOREIGN.—To-day holders of Foreign Sugar dis played firmness, and none was offered at public sale. A fair business was concluded by private treaty at fully turner rates, and at which there are not free sellers. :MOLASSES.—TtIe:T arc few buyers of West India; nevertheless, holders are firm in all the business they trans let, and no improvement has taken place in the supply. For luw to fine the prices asked are 15s to 17s 6d per cwt Lest India Treacle is held for 13s 6d to 14s 6J, with few buyers thereat. This afteinoon at public sale 163 casks Mauritius Molasses were taken in At 13, for very 10w.,_ COFFEE.— This afternoon there wai little passing by priv.:tt treaty in home trade or export sorts if C,ifee, and 593 is the nearest value of Native Ceylon. At public ask I:15 bags Brazil were nearly all taken in rather under ihe valuations; fine fine ord coloury Bahia at 57s to , and Good pale at 54s per cwt. Cccoa.--This afternoon the demand was nct better for Cccoa, and at public sale 423 bags Trinidad were all Liken in at 45s per cwt. TES.—Holders of Congou are reluctant to accept lower rates, but dealers halve made purchases with can tion since our last report, whilst the lowest and finest aorta met with the least attention. For common and !good ord Congou the rates asked are 9id to 10d, ill to is 2d forinedium, and is 31 to is 9d tor superior kiss. There has been a good business done in fine Green Tea at full terms, whilst there is only a moderate quantity on offer. Other kinds are less in demand, and can be obtained at rather lower Wei, as the market is better supplied. In scented and Pekoe Tea operations base been upon a limited scale ic a slight reduction. SPICES.—Tc-.lay at public sai• 155 bags of Pod Pep per were taken in at 203 for low mixed, but 650 bales Bengal Ginger :old at 19s 6.1 to 20s for middling export aorta. and damaged-1L 6.1 to 17s. prices rule low for East India, the demand for all perpotes rcn ains small by private contract ; but holders have ltss d( sire to se 1, and bring toward a smaller quantity for inspection. lit auction, a I art only of 1 000 bags found bu;e; 4t. Ss 6d to 9s fur broken Bengal, the supe rior kind being taken in at 103 6d. Cargo must be quo•pl a Bs, pinky white Madras 8s 6,1 to 9i, and good to fin, fengal 101 to Ils per owl. Cleaned Rice is cheaper than I.s,t wet k: Carolina etling at 20s to 24 , . ,k; au( t it 120 ca3lis of American changed hands at 10, to 19.3 tid; au 1 s-ver..l parcels ar, near at hand. ;.:a , _;o only s:nall purchases have been made this week. At public sale 130 chests were taken in at 2;i3 6 t to 24i for good small grain. Sago Flour is °fro:, dat 0 33. Farloa is dull of sale at I:i3 6,.1 to 16s. 1 F t „. j'.;;\ e 1 downw3l:l te7ll , :ricy; at yubl:e Told and tire It u t , t 6d to Bah:a, ordinary st Arrowroot is held for roil rates. _ . be rates asked for Leeward bland Rum are Is 5.1 to Is 6I per gaiion proof, still Jew orders have been executed, and cher., is a more plentiful supply. East India h3s been purchased to a limited extent only, At is 4 t to Is 54 proof, but parcels to arrive can be cote:fled rather under these rates. On tha pat t . of holders of Jamaica firmness is apparent, but the market assumed a quiet aspect, more especially for low and mid sorts. The value of 28 to 33 per cent. over proof is from 2s 6d to 2s 10(1 for plain and mid quality, 34 to 36 over better 33 to 34 4d, .fioe and choice 33 63 to 4s 21 per gallon. For Demerara the market is 6rm, and a fair business has btqn done at 2s 3d to 2s 61 fur 30 t) 30 per cent, over pr,,(,f; C, ,,, DLIC Brandy of the v i ntage of 1848 4s 9d to 4s I Id, 1847 ditto at 5s 4d to 5s 6 , t, and interior sort 3 at 33 to 4s 5d per gallon. Full terms are asked for Geneva, but only small orders have been executed at la 9tl to is 10;1 for export sort, and fine for duty at 2s 31 to 3s 3d. British made Spirit has been in good &Aland at full rates. lxurc --S nce the quarterly sales cf East India operations have been trifling for all purposes, still holders are not disposed to sell but at full rates, and only small parcels are on offer. Spanish is unaltered in value; there are now few buyers. SALTPETRE.—To-day there was not less activity in the market for rough, and at public sale 3,876 bags sold at firm rates, Calcutta 4! to 21 per cent refraction went at 28s to 283 6 ,1 , 6 6i ditto 27s to 283, 8 ditto 26s to 26s 64, not refracted and damaged 243 to 26s 6d. COCHINEAL —This afternoon at public sale 132 bags of Cochineal only in part sold at rather lower rates, and went at from 4s to 5s 4d for Black Honduras. TALLow.—The value of fine P. Y. candle is 36s 6d to 36a 9d per cwt,, and both soap makers as well as chandlers only purchased sufficient for immediate wants. The quantity for delivery in the last three months of the year are 37s 6d to 38s per cwt, :still only limited contracts have been entered into. Mine melted has been purchased with caution, and 36s t o 39. 6d is the value of prime nett cash. Of other I nsts o f 'fallow large parcels have been offered at public sale whi at a sma ll part only of 1100 casks of Sydney found 32s 6d to 35s 9d f or l ow to fine, and buyer. , at from 1300 pkgs of South American at 335 to 35s 6d per cwt. Rough /cat is 2s Old per stone of 8 pounds. tfiLs —At auction a part only of 50 tuns Seal found buyers, Pale at 37 1 is to 3f/ 10s, and stra w 35/ . Th e value of other sorts is from 311 to 341. Southern is wanted, and the parcels sold by private treaty were at full terms. At auction 41 tuns realized from 32110 s to 331 los for good and fine. For Cod price are on the advance, and rule at 34/ to 351 10,. Sperm is less wanted; Co lonial is 821 per tun. Cocoa Nut—Of 500 bags offered at public sale a small part only sold at 33s to 355, mid dling and very low at. 29s 6d to 30s 6d per cwt. exhibit firmness, and a good demand exists, ivhilst the rates paid are 31s to 32s 6d for good and flak; and 30s to 303 6d for low.. A further decrease is appat in operations in Olive Oil, and holders mani aVeater, &sir)) to :ell, whilst prices have fsllen to 481 torn for Gallipoli, and 461 to 471 for other sorts , ) w~ THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVBNING, For Linseed Oil there aro sellers at 32s to 325 3d per cwt on the spot, whilst larger parcels are on offer. The amount of business concluded has been small for delivery at 32s 6d t') 32s 9d. For Rape Seed Oil only small purchases have been made, brown at 40s to 40s 6d, pale 41s to 41s 6d and Foreign 43s to 445, and brown 403 6d to 41s. MPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool ssck at Five o'clock. Lord HATHERTON presented several petitions praying for the extension of the jurisdiction of the county courts. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH presented a petition praying for a better supply of water to the metropolis. ALDERNEY—CASE OF MRS. RILEY. The Duke of WELLINGTON moved for certain papers and orders relating to this case, in addition to those moved for by Lord Brougham last night. COMMONS ENCLOSURE BILL, _ __ „On the motion for the second reading of this Bill, Lord PORTMAN thought this a favourable opportu nity (f direCting the attention ( f their Lordships t , ) the subject of agricultural statistics. A few years since there had been a panic ItintiOrtbe idea that there would be a scarcity, whereas if they had had proper statistical returns it would have appeared that there was an ample supply of corn; MOT or less concealed, and prices would not havetisep as they had done, in the same way, be believed, that in good years farmers had been led to entertain undue ap prehensions of a glut, which they would not have enter tained had they had proper statistical returns. The Earl of GRANVILLE admitted the importance of the subject. After a few words from the Earl of MOUNT CASHEL, the Bill was read a second time. THE EARL GREY EMIGRANT SHIP. The Earl! of MOUNTCASHEL then rose, pur suant to notice, to move an address for—first, a return of all papers connected with the Earl Grey emigrant ship, in order to embrace the dispatches of the Lieu tenant-Governor of Sydney, with its enclosures; and the report of the Emigration Committee therein re ferred to. Second, the communication from Earl Grey to his Excellency the Lord-Lieutenant. Third, the evidence and report of Mr. Otway, Poor-law Inspector. Fourth, all correspondence from his Ex cellency the Lord-Lieutenant, addressed to Earl Grey. Fifth, the reports of the Emigration Commissiorers, ad dressed to Earl Grey. Sixth, the reports of the Poor law Inspectors, Otway and Senior, on this subject; with their marginal notes. Seventh, copies of letters from the Poor-law Commissioners to the Belfast Board of Guardians; with all other correspondence on the subject. Earl GREY objected to the 'motion as unnecessary. The papers laid before their Lordships contained full details on the subject, and if, when they should have been printed, the Noble Earl considered the production of the documents which he now moved for necessary they should be pro duced. He begged to state that he had not said it was Be'fait board of guardians who had made the change of persons complained of but the board of guardians of Dungannon. He trusted, however, that nothing that had passed would tend to check emigration to Australia. He would now state, in order to correct any false ideas that might exist on the sub ject, that out of 29,987 emigrants who had gone out to Australia recently, only 486 deaths had oc curred. Nearly 200 surgeons had been employed in this service, and there had been very few cases of actual misconduct, although there had been some in which surgeons had been reported as deficient in energy. Many of the complaints which had been made on this subject had turned out to be unfounded, and it was clearly the interest of the owners and charterers of emigrant ships to render that service as perfect as possible, and he believed t' at they endeavoured to the utmost of their power to do so, and that, generally speaking, emigration had been conducted in a manner highly honourable to the individuals concerned in its superintendence and highly honourable to the country. The Earl of MOUNTCASHELL denied that the surgeons of emigrant ships deserued the high character e hich bad been given them by the Noble Earl, and the silence of the medical men under the charges which he (the (the Earl of Mountcashell) brought against them proved the truth of those charges. The great majority of the sur geons were incompetent or vicious, because the remunera tion offered was not snfficient to induce men of superior qsalifications, to accept the appointment. Many c f them were merely apothecaries, and some of them only apo thecaries' apprentices. The Colonial-office must reform the system altogether. He should on Friday move for returns of penalties imposed on persons for breaches of duty under the Emigration Act. Earl GREY explained. The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL rose, and was pro ceeding to enter into details on the subject of which he had given notice for Friday next, when Lord BROUGHAM rose to order. It was not com petent for a Noble Lord to discuss a motion, or giving notice of his intention to raise a discussion on it at a future period.—(Hear.) The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL said that the Noble and Learned Lord was the last who ought to have called him to order as no one was so constantly guilty of breaches of order as the Noble and Learned Lord himself. The Noble Earl then proceeded amidst roars of laughter, which frequently rendered him inadible, to show that his conduct was petf , ctly in order, and concluded by giving notice of his intention of moving on Friday fur returns relating to the emigrant ship Sobraon, and the subject dropped. It was understood that the motion made by the Noble Earl this evening was withdrawn. SCOTCH FARM PRODUCE BILL. Lord BROUGHAM moil(' tLe second rending of this Bill. The Earl of ABERDEEN hoped that the Committee would be fixe d for some day nest week. The Bill was then read a second time. PETITIONS. The Earl of CARLISLE presented a petition against a post-office delivery on a Sunday. The Earl of HARROWBY presente I a petition from Liverpool fir a repeal of the window-Asa; also a petition against a Sunday delivery cf letters; also a petition fur increasing the number of bishops. Lord MONTEAGLE moved for certain returns rela ert to the Irish Poor-law Unions.—Ordered. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The EPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. NEW MEMBER. Colonel Rostuxt, the new Member for Canterbury, took the oaths and his seat. The Hon. and Gallant Member w:is introduced by his Learned Brother Sir John Hominy, the Solicitor-General, and Mr. Ord. SECOND READING. The Railway Assurance Company Bill Ras read a se cond time and ordered to be committed. PETITIONS. A great number of petitions were presented against Sunday Ithour in the Post-dice. Mr. HENRY presented a petition from a place in Lan cashire, signed by 4 737, in favour of a reduction of the duty on tea. Mr. TRELAWNY presented a petition against the church-rates. Mr. W. J. FOX presented several petitions in favour of the Marriage Bill; also several petitions praying fur a reduction ut the duty on tes; and sea erial i;etitiolis in favour of a system of secular education. Lord lIOTIIANt presented a petition from tie West Riding of Yorkshire praying fir agricultural protection. Mr. A. HASTIE presented a petition from Glasgow itying fen a Ictiucti , ln of the (ey on paper, and for th, n of the stamp duty on newsi ►Per Sir R. INGLIS preseLt,2d several petitions against the Marriage Bid; also a petition praying for agricul tural protection; and a petition in favour of the Ten Hours Bill. Mr. LEGIT presented a petition from Chester in favour ci agricultural protection. Mr. WILSON presented a petition against the paper duty, and the penny stamp on newspapers. Sir F. THESIGER ptesenteda petition from Don caster against the Marriage Bill. Mr. HUME presented a petition from Norfolk, in fa vour of county financial boards also a petition from Stafford praying for a repeal of the taxes on knowledge. Mr. OSBORNE presented a petition from Middlesex, praying for a reduction of the duty on paper, also for the abolition of the penny stamp on newsi,apers. Mr. M. GIBSON presented a petition in favour of the establishment of county financial hoards. Mr. lIUME presented a petition from the royal burgh of Cupar, in Fife, complaining of the present system of Post-office communication with that place. MONEY ORDERS IN THE POST-OFFICE. In reply to Mr. WILLIAMS as to why the recom mendations of a Mr. Sanders as to an improved mode of conducting the business of the money order department of the Po“ -office had been carried out in preference to those of Mr. Smee, the chief accountant of the Bank of England, Mr. HAYTER said b e Mr. e h ad to give a very simple a nswer to the questio n of Honourable Gentleman. He begged to refer the Hon . M ember to a letter written by the Postmaster - General in the the l mon th of August last, onet h had decided and which letter stated that stmaster-General, after a careful examination of thep lans , that Mr. Smee's wa s inferior to the opera • t i o n, inasmuch as it had nothin g to recommend it but a diminution of security, and an increase of expen se i n the working. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. HUTT gave notice that he should bring the sub ject of the slave trade before the Rouse. Mr. EWART postponed his motion for th• repeal of the advertisement duty till this day fortnight. Mr. HUME hoped to be able to bring on his motion on the subject of the Lord -Lieutenancy of Ireland this day fortnight. Mr. SHAFTO ADAIR gave notice of his intention to move, on Thursday, for leave to bring in a Bill. On the motion of Mr. FRENCH leave of absence was given to Mr. Keogh fur a fortnight on urgent private business. On the motion of Sir JOSHUA WALMSLEY leave of absence was given to Mr. Charles Pearson on account of ill-health. FRENCH POSTAGE. Mr. CARDWELL presented a petition from Liver pool praying that letters passing between England and France might pass by way of Folkestone. WESTERN AUSTRALIA. Sir W. MOLESWOTII asked the Attorney-General whether the persons appointed by her Majesty to make laws fur the colony of Western Australia can at present legally levy taxes on the inhabitants or property of that colony. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL was of opinion that the persons appointed by her Majesty's Government to make laws for the colony, could at present levy taxes on the property of the colonists. Sir W. MOLESWORTH asked if the Attorney- General was of opinien that under the Act which had expired Parliament had vested in the colony the perma nent power of legislating and of levying taxes in Wes tern Australia ? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the question should have been put in writing before he answered it, as it was extremely inconvenient to answer questions thrown out in that way. ROYAL IRISH DRAGOON GUARDS. Colonel CHATTERTON asked the Right Honour able the Secretary at War, if a fund, called the St. Patrick's Fund:in the 4th Royal; Irish Dragoon Guards, has been arranged; and if so, if he has any objection to lay on the table the particulars of that arrangement, and how the sum of 3,0001. and upwards, belonging to that fund, has been divided and disposed of. Mr. FOX MAULE said the Commission which had been lately appointed had revised various funds, and among the rest the fund belonging to her Majesty's Royal Irish Drsgooon Guards. As soon as their report shall have been digested and put into form, there would be no objection whatever to Jay it upon the table, by which the public would see that all had been done which could be possibly desired. This much, however, he might say, that the system of benefit societies would not henceforth be allow ed in any regiment. CONDITION OF THE WORKING CLASSES. Mr. SLANEY then rose to move for a Standing Committee or unpaid Commission, to consider and report on practical plans (not connected with political changes) for the social improvement of the working and poorer classes. In doing this, the Honourable Gentleman said that he was aware how inefficient he was to support the position which ho had undertaken, and how much better it would have been if some Member of more weight had under taken the motion which he was about to make.—(Hear.) One thing, however, there was in his favour, for he was in possession of much information in consequence of having been Chairman of the Committee upon this sub ject some Sears since. From that information he had found that while the higher and middle classes had been daily advancing in wealth and the acquisition of com fort, the working classes had been daily retrograding. In fifty years, that is during this century, the increase cf the labouring classes in the towns had been double of that in the rural districts. And lamentable was the condition of those in these districts. There were many reports presented to that House to which Honour able Gentlemen could refer, but with which he (Mr. Slaney) would not trouble the House. The Commission which was appointed in 1843 stated in their report that in almost all the populous towns in the country the regulations for the health, comfort, and moral training of the poorer classes were very de fective; and the Childrens' Employment Commission, whose operations extended from 1831 to 1842, reported that in the great majority of towns the drainage and ventilation of the dwellings of the labouring classes were entirely neglected, and that no opportunities were afforded them for innocent amuse meat and healthful recreation. The consequence was that their offspring were stunted in growth, delicate, pale, and sickly. That Commission stated that there were no adequate means in existence to effect any material or general improvement in the physical or moral condition of children, and young per sons employed in labour. There was also another class of labourers comprising a population of 600,000 persons—he meant the handloom weavers. The report established beyond all doubt that this state f things was productive of much distress and dissipa tion amongst no less than 600,000. The next class to which the report referred was railway labourers, who appeared to be equally as bad off, and yet with respect to dem nothing bad been done to alleviate their condition, and he would, with the permission of the House, venture to state what had been the effect of all this neglect. The effect of it had been to increase the crime, to increase the pauperism, to increase the discontent prevailing throughout the country • and to prove that he did not exaggerate, he would only point to the wide-spread discontent that always manifests itself amongst the working classes on the subject of their political and social condition.. The Registrar-General's returns also proved the extent of the miseries which the humbler classes of society suffered and endured, showing beyond all question that they endured double the illness and double the loss of life than almost any other class of the community. Surely, .then, there was urgent necessity for some change in the system. The criminals committed in England and Wales in the year 1805, were 4,600 ; in 1815, they were 7,800 ; in 1831, they were 19,000; in 1841, they were 27,000; in 1847, they were 28,800; and in 1848, they were 30,300. Was it not a serious statement to make, and one which could not be contradicted, that the commitment fur crime hal increased six times as fast as the population of this country, in spite ef all the improvements, in wealth, and in spite of all the greatness which we saw around us ? He wanted to suggest some deliberative CommitVe which would consider what were the causes which are preventing the humbler classes seeping a fair share in the advantages of which every other class partook.—(Hear, hear.) He found that the increase of crime had been three , fold. He wished that he could fully look into the cases, I for be felt that the doing so would tend largely to the improvement of the working classes.—(Hear.) If they would only look to the condition of neighbouring coun t tries, and he would take the most prominent, that of France,ithey would find that this increase of crime was not owing to the criminality observable in towns so much as it was to that depreciation of morality which was strikingly obseravable in the rural districts. In France, in 16 4 5, the number] of criminals cf the kind to which be al luded, was 7,060, in 1835 it was 6,500, and in 1845 it was smal;er, while in this country since that time the proportion had increased to fourfold. Between 1806 and 1841 the population of this country had increased by 55 per cent., whereas the increase of crime had been 92 per cent. There was one thing to which he would desire to call the attention of the House, and that was a fact derivable from the invaluable work of Mr. Porter—that fact was the vast increat• in the assessments for the poor. The Hon. Member congratulated the House that there had been a diminution, but he thought there had been little diminution since the 3 ear 1834, when the new law had been passed, and at the present time was increasing at a great ratio. He (Mr. Slaney) bad calculated the sum which could be saved to the country by some measure of this sort at 27,000,000/. per annum for England and Wales, and if they took in Ireland and Scotland, 40,000,000/. would be the sum which could be saved in such items as hospitals, police, transportation, asylums, and gaols. But he was asked what was the remedy for this, and here he btgged the attention of the House. If he had brought forward this motion with some political motive, or entertained some political opinions with it, he would have had no difficulties in obtaining an audience. But when independent Members, who were the only Members, he would remind the House, who ever brought forward their motions for the benefit of the people—when they brought forward their motions they had great diffi culty in gaining the attention cf the House. There were three things which he thought it was their bounden duty to do— to'afford instruction for their chil dren—to render some protection to their health—and to give due encouragement to their industry. He asked no more than this, and less he thought would not be justice. He hoped, therefore, that the House would agrt e to the appointment of a Committee composed of gentlemen on either side of the House with good heads and warm hearts, with the view of inquiring what political measures could be brought forward from time to time for improving the condition of the working classes. This course might be objected to on tl e ground that it would encourage false lopes, but he thought any ohjecticai a such a nature !Light he obviated by stating specifically and clearly the intention which gave rise to the iequiry, via., to site fair play to the working classes, to protect them from f. cud, and to give them those advantages which other classes of the community pose•ssed.—(Hear.) In 1830 a Committee on manufactures! sat, and he would mention the facts that came mit before the Committee, with regard to the three great trades of England cotton, woollen, and hardware. There were three classes of workmen employed in the manufactures. In all these classes they e ere amply sufficient to provide the workmen with comf.ift and support, but they wanted some means of spreading thee over a given period, so as to guard against the fluctuations of good wages and no wages at all. Now could not some measure of that sort be devised without having re course to anything in the shape of a Government to protect the workpeople of this country from those calamities which were constantly coming upon them? True a Bill v; as brought in and pasted that House for establishing benefit societies, but there was sone technical difficulty in the way of carrying that measure into operation on the association prin ciple, and it was ultimately abandoned. With regard to the subject of illness, the House was probably aware that benefit societies were confined to relieving the illness of the man himself, and they were, therefore not calculated for providing against the illness of the man's family; but the matter would be a very pro per one for the consideration of the Commissioners which he was now recommending. He would now ven ture to call the attention of the House to another im portant subject. They had lately had their attention directed to the miserable situation of a number of poor women who could find no employment in this great metropolis.—(Hear, hear.) The interposition of the Right Hoe. Member for Wiltshire to direct public sympathy to this class was worthy of the highest state t w h h in a g t praise, and he had aided it with his own bumble mite. He however, begged the House to remember that that was wa t s h eacau s s ymptomeof the depressed alid no condition t acause. He asked ot of the poor? That cause was the excess of numbers to the demand for their labour in particular localities. To take a few people out of one country and remove them to another was but to take a drop out of the mon. Now, was it not their duty to turn our minds and see what was the cause of that excess ? He had no hesitation in s aying it was the want of forethough. Now, in stead of the ruling powers—instead of the edu cated classes having stepped in for the pur pose of assisting forethought, they had acted in some respects on the other side. The same thing had been done throughout all the manufacturing towns, by the neglect of all those provisions for the decency, for the comfort, and for the self-respect of thos e parties in their sever al localities. la a e sked them whether it would not be perfectly futile to expect any amendment in the persons in such districts. For his own part he thought that they should take to an en tire change of system, and instead of building pri sons and enormous workhouses for the reformation of those who were dark and comparatively black with crime they should turn their attention to the instruction of the docile and the innocent, and endeavour for the future rather to avert than to amend the fault whi•h was now of such serious detriment to the country.—(Hear, hear.) They had found that the working classes had ever been true to themselves. When the principle of savings' banks was first promulgated, it originated with a working man who, while all his fellows were reaping a great reward from his conception, had himself remained in obscurity.—(Hear, hear.) The poor man looked forward to a retirement on his own property, but how could such an idea be realised ? It was a perfect fallacy, a mere farce, for how could a poor man with the expenses of a conveyance before his eyes expect such a result ? If the House would give some induce ment to these classes for saving, they would respond to the kindness. Their industry, their diligence, no man could deny who had seen the vast works which had been consummated during this cen tury. Railways and canals alike attested this. Besides this they had other qualities, the feelings of charity and forbearance one towards another. It was upon these grounds that he had ventured to bring forward the present motion. Mr. TRELAWNEY opposed the motion. He had as high a respect for the working classes as any man in the House, but he could not agree to a motion like the present, which was calculated to mislead them. He thought the Honourable Gentleman, by his own showing, had proved that it would be hopeless and delusive to attempt to remedy the evils of which he complained by any legislative interference, and his request amounted in fact to asking Parliament to give the working classes fore thought.—(Hear, hear.) Believing the motion would not accomplish the object which the Hon. Gentleman had in view, he felt bound to give it his decided Of position. Sir G. GREY complimented the Honourable Gen tleman upon the sincerity and temper which he had shown in bringing forward the motion. He however, doubted whether it was practicable to carry out the plan which the Hon. Gent. propounded, but he did not know precisely what the plan was. No doubt it was important that the information should be col lected, as the Honourable Member wished, though not exactly in the manner which the Honourable Member prcposed. The appointment of a commission in a standing committee of the House would only lead to Parliament being overwhelmed with a vast number of reports relative to a distress the most impor tant causes of which were already well known, but which he did not think was 111 the .power of any legislative enactment to remove. Many private members had attempted, by their exertions, to mitigate the distress, and so much was being done now of a practical nature to improve the condition of the working classes that there was less ne cessity now than there might have been for merly for the adoption of such a plan as this. His Hon. Friend had endeavoured to draw the line be tween !improving the condition of the working classes apart from political changes. He (Sir G. Grey) did not know how it was possible to draw such a distinction. Under these circumstances he (Sir G. Grey) really hoped his Hon. Friend would not press his motion on the House, otherwise he (Sir Geo. Grey) should be reluctantly compelled to oppose it. Mr. SOTHERON said he could not but believe that the proposition of the Honourable Mem ber (Mr. Slaney), however benevolent in its con ception, would end •in general disappointment. He hoped that the Hon. Member would not be be de terred by the ill-success of his present motion, but would persevere in his benevolent intentions. Mr. HUME thought that the objects sought by the Hon. Gentleman would be much better attained by pri vate association than by a Committee of the House, or a Government officer. Upstairs in the library he would find reports of the association, which was set on foot by Sir Thomas Barnard, which would give him information of the best manner in which to proceed. Mr. M. MILNES trusted that his Honourable Friend who had brought forward the question would not be deterred from bringing it forward again and again and urging it upon the Government, nowithstand ing the reception it had met with that night. He trusted the Government would take up the subject upon an early occasion. Mr. H. HERBERT—As the subject hai been men tioned trusted that the Government would ere long do something with respect to savings' banks, and that they would awaken the public mind to the fact that they were not responsible for the defalcations in these establishments. He thought, however, that the Government ought to do something to remunerate the parties who had lost so much by them, under the impression that they had got the security of the Govern ment. Mr. CAMPBELL rose, and was (LEFT SPEAKING.) THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) CROWN-OFFICE, MARCH 5. MEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PARMA- MENT. City of Canterbury—Frederick Romilly, Esq. in the room of Lord Albert Denison Denison, who has accepted the office of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. George Fordham Blow, currier, Great Dover-street, Newington. BANKRUPTS. William Livermore, ironmonger, Oxford-street, to surrender March 18, at one, and April 15, at eleven, at the Court cf Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Stull; Staple Inn. James Brooks, victualler, Winslow, Buckinghamshire, March 14, at half past twelve, and April 18, at half-past eleven, at Court of Bankruptcy. Johnson, official as signee, Basinghall-street; Munday, Carey-street, Lin coln's Inn; Willis, Winslow. Joseph Purssell, butcher, Wellington-street, Water loo-town, Mile•end, March 16, at two, and April 27, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee, Guildhall-chambers; Donne, Princes-street, Spitalfields. Henry Titfore, Worship-square, engraver and printer, March 16, at ore, and April 27, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy, Pennell, official assignee, Guildhall Chamfers; Colley, Bucklersbury. George Smith, cheesemonger, Cumberland-row, King's-cross, March 13, at one, and April 16, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansfeld, official assignee; Goddard and Eyre, Wood-street, Cheapside. Robert Parker, commission agent, Nottingham, March 22, and April 19, at ten, at the Birmingham District Court, Nottingham. Bittleston, official assignee, Not tingham; Campbell, Nottingham. Joseph Chawner, grocer, Kenilworth, March 16, at half past one, and April 15, at eleven, at the Birming ham District Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Bir mingham; Motteram, Knight, and Emmet, Birmingham. ®Edward Hodges, surgeon, Swinford, Leicestershire, March 15 and April 9, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court. Christie, official assigne•-, Birmingham. Bigg, Bristol; Motteram, Knight, an d E mme t, Birming ham. Joseph Downbam, wine and spirit merchant, Harro gate, Yorkshire, March 25 and April 9, at one, at the Leeds District Cour. Hope, official assignee, Leeds; Michael, Red Lion-square; Sh ac k leton, Leeds. John d G 9 u a e t r r e a l e n ! d e e t; at the merchant,Liverpool Liverpool, March 14 an District Court. Tu rne r, official assignee, Liverp oo l ; N ea l an d M art i n, Liverpool. Aprliial, Charles Thomas Glover, dealer, Manchester, March 21, and April 11, at eleven, at the Manchester Di s trict Court. Hobson, o ffi cial assignee, Manchester; Webb, Birmingham; Burdett, Manchester. THE MERCHANT sjA - 1 ---- vi E N'S BILL. At a special meeting of the General Shipowners' S,scietv held on Friday, the 22d of February, to - determine en the course to be taken in reference to the 'Mercantile Marine Bill, the following resolutions were moved, seconded, and unanimously adopted : "1. That while this committee recognise, and are most anxious to fulfil, the obligation to aid every reasonable effort for the improvement of the charac ter and condition of the masters, officers, and crews of British merchant ships, they are satisfied that compulsory legislative enactments for those purposes, enforced by pecuniary penalties, should be adopted with extreme caution, as inconsistent with the prin ciples on which commerce can alone be success fully conducted, and of doubtful efficacy even for the object intended. "2. That the British shipowner is exposed to manyunh injustice harassingi in nd carryingvexat on his business, Irons theious impediments, an d to m operation of regulations now in the statute book which imperatively call for amendment ; and that in consequence of the unrestricted competi tion to which he is exposed by the repeal of the na vigation laws, with the shipping of all foreign nations, it is of the last importance to the mainte nance of that competition that he should, es far as practicable, be released from interference in his pursuits, and from all burdens and restrictions of a disqualifying character. "3. That the whole code of laws affecting maritime commerce is, in the opinion of this committee, in a most unsatisfactory, confused, and defective state ; and that if any legislative action be taken thereon, it should be undertaken in a comprehensive s pi r it, embracing a sea rc hi ng revision and adaptation of maritime laws and regulations to the existing position of the navigation of the empire. " 4. That the Mercantile Marine Bill, introduced inb Parliament by the Right Hon. Henry Labou chere, President of the Board of Trade, is entirely op. posed to these painciples, containing no provisions whatever for the relief of shipping, but imposing on shipowners additional and harassing requirements, enforced by pecuniary penalties, while its probable effects in obtaining the benevolent objects contem plated are extremely doubtful. "5. That a letter be therefore addressed to Mr. Labouchere, urging the withdrawal of the Bill, and the substitution of an extended and impartial inquiry into the laws and regulations now in force relating to British maritime commerce, with a view to conso lidation and simplification as far as practicable, and to the establishment of a comprehensive, and just system of maritime law, control, and practice. " Extracted by order of the committee, " WM. BONAR, Secretary." TARBACH, M ARCH 3.—The Princess Royal, of Bide ford, bound to S wansea , s t ru ck on the breakwater at Porthcawl, and h as b een, got iu here; she fills with the tide. MONDESLEY, NORFOLK, MAncn 4.—The Chance, of Yarmouth, drove on shore last night, and has gone to pieces; crew saved. EXHIBITION OF INDUSTRY OF ALL ATIONS TO BE HELD IN LONDON, 1851. The Committee appointed by the Royal Commis sion to advise on " all matters relating to the build ing," having received the sanction of the Commission, are desirous of obtaining from all parties who are disposed to assist them suggestions for the general arrangement of the buildings and premises required for this exhibition. Upon the general form of the building in plan, the distribution of its parts, the modes of access, and the internal arrangements and contrivances, will depend the convenience and general fitness of such a build ing ; and it is upon these points that the Committee seek information and suggestions, and wish to en courage the most extended competition in the prepa ration of plans. The Committee do not propose to offer any pecu niary reward for such plans—they rely upon the desire which men of all countries will feel to forward the objects of the proposed exhibition. The Committee think it probable that, when the plans are received, they may not be limited to the selection of any one plan, but may derive useful ideas from many ; and that the best plan may be deter mined upon by the help of this general assistance. As the credit of any such plan will be due solely to the contributors, the Committee propose to make a report, in which they will acknowledge by name those whose plans had been w holly or partially adopted, or who had afforded the most useful suggestions ; and the Committee hope to be able to offer such other ho norary distinctions to the successful contributors as the circumstances may appear to warrant. In order to guide the contributors in the prepara tion of such plans and designs, and to facilitate the examination and the comparison of them when re ceived, the Committee have enumerated concisely the principal desiderata for such a building, and have laid down certain rules and conditions to which they ear nestly request the contributors to conform as the Committee will be under the necessity of abiding strictly by the regulation of not acknowledging any plans which may be sent_in a form inconsistent with these rules. Copies of the engraved plan of the ground referred to may be had on application to the secretaries of the Commission, at the New Palace at Westminster. RULES AND CONDITIONS TO BE STRICTLY OBSERVED IN PREPARING A GROUND PLAN AND SECTION OF THE BUILDING TO BE ERECTED IN HYDE- PARK. 1. The communications from contributors must consist of a single sheet of paper not larger than the accompanying engraving, with a simple ground plan upon a scale of 1.1000 of the full size, with such eleva tions and sections only of the building, and on the same sheet, as may be necessary to elucidate the system proposed—such elevations and sections not being in tended to convey more than a general idea of the building, and not entering into details of construction or of architectural decoration ; to be accompanied by a short, clear, written explanation of the system recom mended on a different sheet. Any contributor wishing to send two designs must send separate and distinct communications, each conforming to the above conditions. No communica tions made inconsistent with these conditions, or any plan prepared upon a different scale from that pre scribed can be received. The plans, &c., must be sent on or before the Bth of April next, addressed to the Secretaries of the Exhibition, New Palace, at West minster, London. It is suggested that the most convenient mode of preparing the plan, elevation, and section, would be to draw them upon one of the engraved copies of the plan of the ground which accompany these instruc tions. 2. The building is to be erected upon the space marked A B C D, and must not extend beyond the boundaries of the shaded portion. The groups of trees shown on the plan must be preserved. The principal public approaches are by the roads E F and G H. The road K L will be available only for foot passengers. There will be no objection to the formation of cross-roads between the two last, G II and K L, if the design of the building re quires it. 3. The roofed portion of the building is to cover a space of 700,000 square feet, or about 65,000 square metres; and the whole building must not occupy, in cluding open spaces, an area of more than 900,000 square feet, or about 84,000 square metres. The building generally will be of one story only. 4. No space will be required for cattle, or for shrubs or flowers. 5. It may be assumed, so far as it affects the ground plan, that the light will be obtained entir e ly from the roof, and the building will be constructed of fireproof materials. GENERAL REItUIREMENTS. 1. Simplicity of arrangement. 2. Economy of space. 3. Capability of extending or curtailing the build ing, without destroying its symmetry as a whole, or interfering with the general arrangement, it being impossible to determine the exact extent of roof re quired until a late period of construction. 4. Adaptation fur the erection of separate portions of the building at different periods. 5. Conveniences of ingress and egress, with facili ties of access to all parts of the exhibition, either from the exterior or interior. 6. Means of classification of the various objects of different departments.' 7. Wall space for the display of articles re quiring it. 8. Means of affording private access and accom modation for exhibitors, with counting-houses (if required), committee-rooms, council-rooms, public refreshment-rooms, and all other public and private accommodation. [This portion of the building may be in two or more storeys, if required.] 9. Internal arrangements, by which, under proper regulations, large crowds of visitors may circulate freely, and have convenient access to all parts of the exhibition, and uninterrupted means of examining the various objects exhibited. MARCH 5, 1850 * The Commission have determined upon the following classification Section I. Raw materials and produce; illustrative of the natural productions on which human industry is em ployed. 11. Machinery for agricultural, manufacturing, engi neering, and other purposes, and mechanical inventions; illustrative c f the agents which human ingenuity brings to bear upon the products of nature. 111. Manufictures ; illustrative of the result pro duced by the operation of human industry upon natural produce. IV. Sculpture, models, and the plastic art generally ; illustrative t.f the taste and skill displayed in such ap plications of human industry. Of which sections 11. and 111. will probably require by far the largest space. LORD DENMAN AND THE BAR. The following correspondence has been sent us for publication : (Copy.) Temple, March 1, 1850. _ _ . . My Lord—l should have desired in open court, before the and the public, to give utterance to the regret of the bir that illness compels your Lordtl4 to resign the high office you have long filled with dis tinguished honour t - ) yourself and with eminent aclvan- Lige to your country. I may thus, however, be allowed to convey the ex pression of our feelings, and to assure your Lordship that the learning, fie impartiality, the high sense of honour, the firmness and the dignity which merited and ennobled your administration of justice have always commanded admiration and respect; while every prac titioner in your I ordship's co.irt bears gratJul teiti mony to the kindness and the courtesy that endear( I you to us all. We are sensible that failing health and advancing years entitle your Lordship to lay rode the arduous duties of the Judge; but we pray that you may be blessed with vigour to enioy the I• 2 sure you have justly earned, and to devets to the public service the patriotism and the eloquence rlready so conspicuous the aunrls of Parliament. In the evenincr of an event 7, 0 life your Lordship will carry with you into ref ircmert the alTeltionsve sympa thies of every memb::: of the profeczion, and wili reap some reward for your labours in the knowledge that you will long live in their memory an example to applaud and emulate. I have the honour to be, my Lord, with emtiments of sincere respect and affection, your Lordship's fe.ithfir servant, JOHN JERVIS. The Right Hon. the Lord Denman, &c. 38, Portland-plele, March 1, 1850. Dear Mr. Attorney,—l receive with the highest satis , feotion yoer kind letter, expressing your own sentiments and those of the bar in general, on my retirement from office. If I have merited in any degree your valuable approbation, I am conscious that mainly it must be es cribcd to the learning, ljberality, and candour by which you and your brethren rendered the performance of my laborious duties during so many years both easy and delightful. Fully aware of my many deficiencies in other re spects, I yet will not disclaim the praise of a constant and earnelt endeavour to discover truth and promote justice; and it is my pride to feel that, with the assist ance of my excellent colleagues, I have not failed in my anxious wish to sustain, and even elevate, the character of the English bar. Among the many consolations which support me in taking this painful step, none will be more effectual than to witness the increasing pros perity and honour of the profession which you so worthily represent. With every feeling of esteem and respect towards yourself, I remain, my dear Mr. Attorney, your faithful and obedient servant, DENMAN. him HOPS.—One or two arrivals of small quan tities of hops from Ireland, the produce of that country, have recently taken place, and the vessel Ranger, ar rived from Dublin, Belfast, and Waterford, respectively, has brought 11 bales of hops as a portion of her cargo, which, b&ng the largest importation cf the kiwi from ,Oat country, is of interest. Dispatches from the Governors of the North American Colonies were received yesterday at the Colonial , office. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF LORDS, March 4. LORD GOUGH. Viscount Goucu took the oaths and his seat. The gallant veteran arrived shortly after four o'clock, and proceeded to the robing-room. He then appeared at the table robed as a Viscount. He was introduced by Viscount liawarden and Viscount Hardinge, who were also robed. Having taken the oaths, the Noble and Gallant Lord took his seat upon the Viscounts' bench. The Lord Chancellor then approached him and shook bands with him cordially, as did several other Noble Lords. The Duke of Cambridge was present at the interesting cere mony. The Noble and Gallant Viscount appeared in excellent health. After remaining upon the Viscounts' bench for a short time, he (having previously retired and disrobed) returned and took his seat upon the cross benches. NATIONAL EDUCATION. Lord STANLEY presented a petition from some place in Monmouthshire complaining of the management clauses c the minutes of the Committee of Privy Council on national education. He had no wish to raise a dis cussion on that very large subject on the introduction of thia petition. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was I erfietly pre pared to enter upon tl:• discussion, and to lay before their Lordships a plain statement of facts, which would have the effect of putting an end to the numerous mis rerresentations which had been put forth en the subject of the conduct of the Committee of Privy Council. The Bishep c f LONDON wished to avoid any dis cussion at the present moment. He considered that he stood in some degree in the capacity of a moderator, a d he suggested that the whole subject should be referred to a Select Committee. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY acknowledge d that the Church could not do her duty in providing for the education cf the people without the assist ance of the State, and he acknowledged the libe rality of Parliament in affording that assistance, but he contended that a satisfactory inspection of schools could be made only by the clergy man of the parish, be cause he only was constantly resident. Lord BROUGHAM said he had been all his life en gaged in the attempt to promote popular education, which, whether regarded in a mural, a religious, or a political point of view, was a question of paramount importance; but h• had always found hi s e ff or t s thwarted by the conflicting views of the two great parties interested in the question, namely, the Church of England on the one band, and the Dissenters on the other. Nothing, undoubtedly, was more honest than the good disposition of the Dissenters for the education of the people ; and equally so, nothing could be more honest than the gooct disposition of the Church of England for the same object; but there was always a de gree cf perversity in human nature which made them do nothing good absolutely, but only relatively. All the zeal of the Dissenters on behrlf of education was over gone by a little wish to bliedf.)ld the Church. and, on the other hand, all the conscientious zeal of the Church for education was exceeded by a desire to obtain a victory over the Dissenter?, so that between the two education fell to the ground and was fettered to the earth, or nearly so, instead of winging its way through mid air and mounting to its native skies. It might be asked why it was not so in Scotland? Because there the difference was not with regard to doctrine, but discipline; although he regretted to see that a paltry question of patronage was producing the same lamentable effects as the question of doctrine had produced in England. The Bishop of CHICHESTER presented a petition from a large meeting held at WilUs's Rooms, complaining of the conduct of the Committee of Privy Council on Education; also, upwards of seven hundred petitions from various places to the same effect. He hoped the Government would agree to the suggestion of the Bishop cf London for a Committee of Inquiry fir the purpose of ascertaining some mode of reconciling the ttifferences between the National Society and the Committee of Privy Council. The Bishop of ST. DAVID'S said he was always favourable to inquiry, but he could not agree in the ex pectation expressed by the Right Rev. Prelate (Chi chester) that it would be attended with the result of allaying the excitement which prevailed upon the suh ject. It might indeed be the means of dissipating some of the misapprehensions which were entertained on the subject. The representation made upon this subject, and the vague charges made against the management, acted forcibly upon susceptible imagin-stions. The more vague they were the more difficult to remove or to allay the alarm which was caused by them. He did not think any good result would follow from the inquiry, and, after all, they would have to go to first principles and consider whether they were prepared to abandon them. He thought these Isere principles which could not and ought not to be abandoned. The Ear! of HARROWBY said he had several peti tions on the subject to present. The Government on this matter had made experiments, but had not pro duced any entire plan a manazemebt. New measures were produced from day to day, and the consequence was that there was the greatest uncertainty upon the subjee. He hoped the question would not be allowed to drop, and if no other person took it up, he would take an opportunity of calling their Lordships' attention to it. Lord BROUGHAM said he did not know that this subject would be brought forward, and he was in conse quence taken by surprise. It was but justice to say th t this plan was based upon a report of a Committee of the House of Commons which sat in the years 1816 and 1818, of which he was the chairman. He did not know whether anything had been done upon it, but it met with unanimous approval. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said the Right Rev. Prelate who presented the petition avoided going into the arguments in support of it. Had he done so he would have been prepared to go into the whole plan; and with regard to the facts upon which it was founded, he was prepared to bring forward evidence to set them aside. rine parties who signed the petition did so upon statements which a clergyman of the Church of England can=e torwrrd aZ, a meeting, to eon tradie, but he was not permitted to do so. The Noble Lord opposite said there was much excitement, but that was produced by statements which, where reli gion and chari'y were concerned, should be far from misrepresentation of facts. He would, however, sub mit two or three facts. It had been stated at the meet ing to which he alluded that the Church of England did not receive its fair share of the fund granted fir educa tion, under the dir , !tion of the Privy Council. The fact, however, was that it received four fifths of the en tile grant —(Hear, hear.) If he ha, I expected any complaints upon , this point, it would not be from the Church of England, but from the Dissenters, who did not receive a share in proportion to their numbers. The Church of England received an equal portion—fopr fifths—for building schools, and in the same proportion for pupil teachers. It was further stated that not a single shilling was granted, except upon subscription to what was called the management clauses; whereas a great many thousands were granted for books and pupil masters. It was also stated that there was nothing to be found throughout the minutes but which shoe e l a determination to disconnect education from religion; whereas iu the whole process of examination of the teachers an acquaintance with the catechism of the Church of England was required. If the allegation was true he would have nothing to do with it, and at once give up any share iu the management, and, instead of supporiieg it, would vote for putting a stop to it altogether. There were eight hundred schools already establish( d through its means. The scholars were increasing, and received the most sa tisfactory accounts of the usefulness of these schools, which were superintended by clergymen of the Estab lished Church. He considered that it was a most effi cient mode cf education, and was a vary great contrast to what had previously existed. A debire lied teen ex pressed for a Committee. If a motion was made fn. that objeet, he would state his opinions; but lie warm d them of the danger of granting it, as great difficulties would be found in dealing with the claims of the various scc'arians who would prefer claims for participation in a Government grant. Whenever the motion was brought forward, he would state his views fully upon the subject. There should be made in the Committee of Inquiry, a fall statement of the grounds upon which applications for grants were entertaired, and of the principles upon which, when made, they were to be distributed. The conversation then dropped. The Bishop of LONDON presented two petitions from places, thenames of which were inaudible, praying for an inquiry into the distribution of the funds dispensed by the Committee of Privy Council on Education. The Earl of HARROWBY then presented several petitions to the same effect. Earl POWIS presented a petition from the clergy cf Ripon praeing f)r an alteration in the law with regard to matters of appeal on points of doctrine in the Church of England. PARTY PROCESSIONS (IRELAND) BILL Their Lordships then went into Committee on this Bill. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that he rose to objec':, to the principle of the Bill. He was so unfortu nate as to be in • different part of the country on the day on wi - •ich the Noble Lord opposito moved the second reading of the Bill, and, coneequently, he had . not then an opportunity cf stating his oblectlons. His opinion was that the Bill did not go far enough. As it stood at presee' it would not put an end to the state of disturb ance in Irelard, which it was the intention of Govern ment to put en end to. Besides the disturbances like those at Dolly's Brae, there were other d is t ur b ances which had taken place which would not be prevented by the state of the law es provided for . by this Bill. It was well known that Catholics were in the habit of burying the dead with great formality, which it was the common practice of other parties to int errupt, and this practice cicen led to disturbances really as fatal as any of those disturbances caused by procession. — (Hear, hear.) He did not see why the Legislature should not at once prevent person s i n I reland from appearing abroadin arms.—(Cheers.) For what reason should the peasantry of that country b e allowed the privilege of appearing abroad i n arms when that pri vilege did not exist in any other part of the civilized world?—(Hear.) Why should these parties be allowed to appear in arm!, e xce p t f or : opportunities of amuse ment, ment, and if carried for that purpose why should they not be made to produce game certificates, and be called upon to account for the possession of arms? He thought that the local magistrates, by means of the constabulary et their disposal, ought to protect these parties from being attacked by others who came there in arms.— ',Hear, hear.) H e h oped a clause would be inserted in this Bill to enable th e j ust i ces of the peace to disperse any meetings where parties were carrying arms, and to deprive those individuals cf their arms who should ap pear on those occasions either in procession or attacking funeral processions with arms in their bands. He gave 'notice that on the third reading he would propose a clause to prevent any person appearing in arms in Ire land out of his own house, unless for the purpose of amusement or field sports, as in this country. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that as the ,r,). of the Bill referred o n ly to party procession s, he think it expedient to c onvert it into an arm s Bill, " 1 u s he was not prepared to sa y might not be necessary on future occasion, when the suggestions of th e Noble eke would meet with th e cons id era tion which so important subject deserved. Lord MONTEAGLE said he thought the GOVfr ment would not be doing their duty if t he y were no. pr epark d to e nt er i n t o th e important subje ct of tte !T ioen sf:4,sion of arms by the Irish peasantry.' The p besi ossess arms by th ese p ar ti es was inconsistent wi th the of selves. That had been asserted both by interests of their country, and of the peasantry them, The Pr e d r the Liberal party and Catholic clergymen. sition he would make was very simple. The 2%ct elisred that if the procession did not disperse when t(i© Wet Act was read, the arms should be forfeited. Iles thought the forfeiture should apply whether the dispersed or not. He would leave the suggestion in hands of the Noble Marquis (the Marquis of in deans), believing that were this suggestion crabodisa. _ the leaders et an amendment by the Government the Bill would r e much more perfect.subject The LORD CHANCELLOR thought that the l was worthy f consideration, bet feared that there Ivor' , be cerlsiderable dificulty in carrying it out in Pr 2ctie jd as in many cases the levies carrying the arms we e td be much more numerous than the constabulary Mel to them Lord . STANLEY said he thought that if could be attained of preventing the carrying Drug if public without any necessity, it would be a hee r ".,,d the object ereat importance to the country. He could underi",e the difficulty suggested by the Noble Marquis oPresl'it (Lansdowne) with respect to the title of the Bill, n e s uk , regarded the amendment proposed by the Noble ld (Wellington), but he thought the same objection Noble not hold against the suggested amendment by the 14,°;,,g Lord, for although there might be a difficulty in s e.l "" t v the arms at first, the parties might be sub: eqt.et, identified and deprived of their arms. A be The Bill thea passed throuh Committee, an d t h House resumed, when the report was ordered to t he brought up on Thursday. The Eeclesiss Veal Commission Bill was read a third time and passed. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, March 4. IRISH REGISTRATION BILL. (Continued from our Third Edition of last night.) the Mr. ANSTEY :aid it should be remember ed that ~,e qualification given by that Bill was one o f occolirria. and not one of teaanc. He thought that the Ise ' la be quiring that the party claiming the franchise she° rated to the amount of 81. would be a sufficient P e ' don against abuse. Nat Mr. SHEIL said that at present there existed s g. eat evil in Ireland connected with the system of ficti ti co uld votes. That evil was, that a landed proprietor Lews, grant nominal annuities to five or six sons or neP h ° ag o who were entitled to be placed on the registry, n; bough they derived no real benefit from the land, and although they occupied no portion of it. That was a rel,r's ing evil for which there existed no remedy. NOW, IW—‘ l U S° it was possible that abuses might arise under that c • eae to O s ' • —and he knew no system which was not ha t h e ir —there would at all events be two checks gall!" f t he occurrence; one of these checks was that each of the of parties should be rated; and tee other was that 1 lel them should occupy. But, on the other band, oat were to deny the right of voting to joint occupiers in b injustice would to done to many of the trades': ches towns.— [An Hoer. MEMBER on the oppoEite %tea here observed that that portion of the tb o to the county franchise only.l He was awarewere it related to the county franchise only. But then lei , many large towns in Ireland which returned no v otes hers, and whose inhabitants had very properlY„,heral for the county representati ves . The towns of .I:taots and of Carrick, fur instance, had each 12,000 /nit s° a nd and returned no Members. Now, in these towoB' eeers in all others similarly circumstanced, there wer e 5 d - were joint occupiers care) ing on trade together ; • o f the those men, he would ask, to be wholly depr ive c laus e franchise? He did not deny that under Oil weals some abuse might arise frem the creation of 1 : c o uld votes, but he believed that preponderance of ov ii •„ t i 0 16 he found to lie in its rejection. He would rer °l "l, rd n ° • Noble Lord the Member for the coutity_D ° own° Cast'erengh) that the more the number or c o Ca rry was extended the more difficult a ould it be to ca 0 - for Candi date 's ill . election by means of fictitious votes. seats in that House would then have to fish,with net stead of fishing with lines. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL supported the Mr. SADLEIR said he believed the Noble Lord se e._ Member for the county of Down c lause. d t he was owe' which as to the increase in the number c f Irish voter' No bly that Bill would produce. He could assure te e °t Lord that in attempting to arrive at a corresid be elusion upon that ,point no reliance c°sseated placed on the returns which bad been P re w hich to the House. In the borough of Carlow , he C O' he had the honour to represent, the numb er af„' i n the stituents had a short time ago amounted to 47 1 ; d b oa e l alphabetical list furni s hed t o the House t he y 11 , d i r calculated at 445; but he had asce rtained tha t 5° , -- br e e e,e7 persons narne.l in that list wer e put down,tw, ° ' ' e aero e " e ' even tour times, others h a d di e d, an d others ba d e— e aeouga entitled to vote was only 235. and that the actual number ofpersons in th e t he" Pa in e to ascertain what would be the number of yet' t i e ts pre' borough of Carlow if that Bill were to Pas s t il t :, 10 1°S sent shape, and he found that • 1 at "'" they ;sou amount to only 300. in the Sir R. PEEL said he was disposed to concu r , io rter. He had taken ill t h opinion of the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) at sif before five o'clock in favour of the omission v to re clause— (Hear, bear). He was one of those w l3° bad a° in favour of an extensive franchise; and if beieg, be opportunity of giving his vote the other e' r , tras should have voted f or an 81. franchise instead e' er a t chise of 151. But at th e tarns ;time be 'ls. ',gold aiwous in giving that extensive franchise tin t" , a: a bona fide one—(Hear, bear). He beliei•'„ of t ae ' should by that means be fulfilling tae intend(); f a r legislator. ; but, above all he should attensPt ti t a rea'i possible to discourage that abominable systeo3 of et mg fictitious votes—Hear, hear), to the Pr ev . b 3 u tedra which system, under ( the 40e. freeholds, he aq i a 00 1 1 only much of the laxity and corruption wh ie " an y of in respect to elections in Ireland, but also °; ° ""ife ts —that was to say, that if three social evils of that country. (Hear, hear.), t te neraa willing to admit that if there were bona fide P` e a ,tan ce ' or l beo that rent, he was Killing took a farm and paid 601. of rent, and if each e l t vue eet equally responsible to the landlord for th° P e " s se & ut' those tenants should be entitled to vote. ge we c arrY iag also to admit, that if a number of partners we re d if 0 1 . on a manufacturing establishment tegether, 5 , 13 ,f of them contributed bona fide a certain amount of fray. chise. But he should confess that to admit that , in that %wining. to the concern, they were all fairly entitled te,_,aelea he o prea eaeu pir e great deal of abuse from giving to each joind ena era b i l e w e ll:, might be rated a right to vet . Wh l " n ro Dot bled Gentlemen argued that question, they COIL aelln"a e o talking of each tenant.—(l-Ica , -, hear.) a'a l y resPa t ' that each bona fide joint-tenant, who aas e T 111 „ 1 • is sible with others for the rent, ought list u ° - se Is" t i e place his name on the registry. 'fast san s e oing e y England and in Scotland. But they wcre pc "'ley; '" impose the restriction of tenancy or of joint-tenteatioci)e't used the word occupancy as distinguished fre l l a sali r c e ; although in their speeches they could not h e b-1 that tenancy. It was laid that the OsYrn e e °t .. o in t t P u t would be a sufficieat gainst au°'o,ooo"s, matter. But that he ger atterdoubted. T he _ y t rY et ' rates payable on an 8/. a ing would not be e lanalorti; siderable. It might be for the interest cf ef to Abir o.'ll particularly on the approach of an e ked , ' tr ee common i "P`rn, l'irnFa l f the plement of the tsnart's r s ;lila' vi ()nil amount 4." s Thl et s ay, lot system of eg.o_ne piat,ol.l st a nd w e a t e P t, to aP OY , the whole of the arre3rs of rating due " e - a bt, t " -r to t V l C pv t a i s r f g s:')Pr t s o a tcpoaanysdsi;ula(p)rt,entolti;lo.(:lt thoenae:retalt;:t;bitit: fore to qualify him to vote. He hail 110 u ° , o ifing m o u re lt y p i l l y af t i h n ei lii r aenlyeeCtiaosneeseirVigl eland landlords Cle it4 't eld 1 - 1° II as ' t t o e e p n ay s t o t h o d e a r a l e e . n d ne b e i l g i e b v t e d s i e n ' sy t t he interest accept your SODS as tenants; I shall undoresecele Jo in your rates; but I shall require that You f vorU l t ice o „ l ac t occupiers, in order to increase the nuraber bat r eal my favour." All he said wee, that if t e ag t o could be esaablished thewould introdue alord a • y len A pr e abuse and would give encouragement to . ha d ../Js resort to practices similar to those whl d e f r eell y th e veiled under the 408. freeholds in Ire, liri al t frunric good in the eyes of the law, but as ,dinereete fca e to 40s. freeholds of England it floss's - his' as was he fl oc r oe franchises to be. lie was rcady to give,' wo td trf e be joint tenants, but as " occupancy" ass til e awe „la let the a wl 0 0 could not approve of the clause. should be ready to listen to any proposal "' ai l e d iO O fairly e xl r extend the franchise to all parties a a I, cone] hoar But as then advised, he should come to 1 ' u t an at which the Noble Lord had arrived ab°,ision. tb before, and oppos.e the adoption of that Pro inept 0 , 1 0 of Mr. REYNOLDS thought that the 11,a create rates gave a su ffi c i ent protection a oti° ll fictitious votes. call e st tg e eto ° Mr. HENLEY said he wished to cal' th 3 thee or the Committee to the effect of the clause as 1 of g r occ + h e boa . • u t on the power of rating possessed b y pe r' diens. Let h l ro suppose that there Were 130 , teO loc a pints whose property was rated at She's ' o wes P e jo. sons would all be entitled to have a of lie 0 04 upon the registry; but if, at the 4)1 0 °, 1 ' e t he 0 d o. tion, the board of guardians should reas e e id 0,11 be die . of of their rating by a single pound, they v i . o o t he 0 0 ; auchised. Why that was throwing A blood C,°,l)Wotild guardians a temptation which flesh A U " _for J. d oll . ' ithstand—(lli ar, hear, an d j au ghter) s out of r oo d. always be easy to state that the House w i s e re 'ha' or that the value of the property wa s otli i e oraw ittee hot pe Then, again, he would remind the ' l w o 10 a 0 01 under that Bill a person occupying a s ha ve Lu i o tes might claim to be rated, and rnigin fi titi° h° tit i°ll. placed on the registry. Why , the -c t he -c ) ble be' r. rent-charges were in no way corapara / g e ar, , 0 1.--• votes which that system would create• --a The Committee then divided when there areoe ••• 104 For the clause • a• ••• .• AU „ell. Against it ... ••• ••• --- he PI aorik y for e clause ••• of tder esion The clausecruse was then th ordered to stand Ps i co oS i t e J The Committee then proceeded to tu e arso oe el ya ltie of the third clause, which provides that P e e r ate sea to estates in fee, or in toil, or f,r life, of to failo of 51., should have votes for 'counties. of she 1 0 Sir F. THESIGER moved the additione clan nil o te ing words at the commencement of th ista e 60 44 addition to those qualified by law to reg e v ivtrle oir at any election of a knight of the s hire, f j'e 00Tjaa qualification not requiting occupation. dee to 13 ad ject in moving that amendment was . oi iisr guage of the Bill more complete. A. 131 had been made to the first ciao%