The Sun. — London, England, 1850-02-05 00:00:00

(I ._ O . tip S;)/1. ~_- ?~, . _.„ „. ...._ pulley 6., , , Pereutei - to Lids keereo -, . , -`• ae been , :;ivre 1 :i , ,h•S: ' :t i ,') 11 •- - zebeerers. He a f armer was convereed, fans eie oe. e axe tffe 4 , that if a great ehen e e Au , : net spee,i a. sw eet aw a cted the whole agricultursl ie etereet culd be speedily u‘kil Mr. IIt.INIE ob.eeectl that the Hon. Gentleman who lett tat down might have enjoyed the ad , a stage ( (i f tench experience in the businere of qua , t q. :e.isioni, an In other matt :rs which he had aeliided to; but the lion. ;IPMember certainly did not understatel the principles ,oil which tee he asieess or this countsy was carried on. nut geetlernan seemed to know nothing of the princt- Pies ageing which Englishmen acted in the management 0,, affiire. Surely, nothing cool Ibe more a b sur d 'eau to suppese that stock could tak , ,n at any ( f the mills in this couritry—the values f the maceines and stneing-jennies nreeively ascer eine], and compensation I 'de to the manufacturer f,r any real or supposed deli eiencY i n his profite. Nothing that he had ever heard a PP f eeed to him ' half se preposterou . 3 As to the keen. e , bn , and unwarrantable attack that hal been !cede iiL l "' "is 'lon. Friend the Member for the it in iewtfrusted the., that gentlereal would view 1, 1 .,.. proper,_. es ene and that it with the contempt that it ceserd ~.:I that point he should say no re ;re; but rather Pr, t r t o c ill back the atten•ion of the House to the t' ta le he hs c'eld loathing trade'laratilitiZilY was in this country the rule, end they scarcely hop e .l t o li ve to sriats ther?se itk batik to the ti me w h en moeopei y was ' le t , oly lthe l ono to and, and he rejoiced observe that m. •, t as now derided eves by the advocates of the landed i th: e st• The country gentlemen plainly toll the House nothingtheY wanted no monopoly—that they desired a W i o i With tei lli r foer.lel thano ..-r -subjects. On the whole, such admit knoll ere highly satisfactory, and he could not but e a: : 'wh ich . edge that he sea ; well pleased with the sp n the HOUS3 had he ird from the mover of the olltaieedweet; and, though he could riot egeee w ith all the 41)0t4joes expressed by that Hon. Gentleman, he would t n ns ::. l l that the situation of the farmers was at present Prov e d isise °rY; but every change from an evil to an o im ; de s Y rstem could not fail to be attended withs some e e iC ' e° of mischief to one or other of the parties co rr rnere i tf , .4onour bl un ortunaiely happened . that in times past 146 a e Gentlemen would not listen to propo- Wei d a for gradually establishing free trade ; they leapt, Put it eff so long that they ware at Of . °Weed to take a leap, the consequences which lei wio _ had, as they well knew, proved more or less th ee jles In the year 1829 he earnestly . recommended th e : L° get rid of the extraordinary position in which theft'lv7,r,. placed as t) the trade in corn, and he said to 1 p er l 'ay on any duty you think proper ; make it p er rr (leaner, and reduce that duty by ls. per quarter advgar until it should cease altogether." But such ful sll euse was not in those days listened to, and in _ t it him ! ince :l i e had only thirteen Memelirs t) support t. e Irm o ', eo, however, daylight had been let ,in cerar b il 14e oi the country, and all that the country gen I ..7 with • t a ,, Bl tod was to be placed upon terms of eqiialit o y . tatted he? fellow -countrymen. In that reasonable d . that / I was as read to support them as any man in which eel's°. There was y no portion of our manufactures vot e rr utlght to enjoy protection now that the tra le in cattl e f corn, as I ". Farmers were manufacturers o acr e 4 ' aed various productions of the land, and ther te et i o ° mentlfacturers who possessed any claim to pro- It .efie e l t t ~1,,t Was of no use to talk abou . t the refit of land. els le s . e'''' Worth 403. an acre. It might be worth 20s. eont e ,,' ° llt sehatever it was worth, the landlord uaustibe of th',to take. No doubt it was the duty and the interest la ud : landlord to see that the various charges upon to ree k ti r e reduced to the lowest possible point; bu f t a fes rae. e landlord must take what he could get dorhise eietion Not long,r ago than the year 1842, the e4-rr a Prov ed 11 ° ' capital amour ted to 117,000,000/ : h fc 'tth e T v unjustly the value of land had been inflamed , , former in reater th© depreciation the greater was the Stat ed, testiee to the rest of the community. It was e °nse tee "Y 'he mover of the Address, that the loss to the 4 , ll eu ee -r s of corn was at the rate of 91,000,000/. per b e r th„e' ° I% rather, that the community glieel that now for 'tee adroission of foreign corn. The Hon. Mem el, Gla s .a e 4 t , 0 101 . gow had estimated it at 60,000,000/, and Mr. e . " O ta x -4°,toe pronounced it to he equal to the whole ette e teees,tuat were paid to the Crown. No one could tad W e least hesitation in admitting that the corn-laws oohed a great check to the prosperity of the country. ,f lee e4;"l,olltained a manufacturing community, and hat d i4 tbillig People of this country were manufacturers, -s t e tib ' (3 e e e 4l: ,_ e • One portion of their products, no h e- eer l e w ,„ -- s i lt for home consumption, and tie e - e se ert ',-,l'eQrted• Now, there could be very little 1 - errel e a , l er on this point, ' teat the repeal . of the ,Alu str -2 Must have the effect of greatly promoting the l eiie ti a ° f the COuntry. He was glad that a ge . n t era "Nree t ",s 3 ,f this question had been promised, for i thapir tole h,' hi that some of the Members on the o th at ha', Shirked the real questior. As to the debate e a e r k e rk ad e t1 ; , (11 place on the subject of the Address upo a n t i'llte"gut, he must say that he had listened to O )bate I/ W "' much 1 and he was sure that the he ~, „ Loh i , p r a3ure, h t td it ';* Member for Tatnworth must likewise have j;is.tlasiiewdittll s atisfetion. Before he . sat down, however, f 'entie a '‘; eXpress a. wish fez. some information as to the i°4-futhe eine4thfer Government respecting the present state d already received sorer) tree44°o re g a4ril din i g e for T ei he n y affairs—they had had a ii,a a n tl , t e . b ° 0 1( give therm g about the affairs of Italy, -"iaktl„l,-"er about Hungary; g t he wanted to know some 4thierl,ut our a ffeir -n a a t r3 l -; ome; they had been told neefiraDeb,,,4°llt r emedial ' measures, or about any measure ria tl e e r t- l'i 'an T e h e e respecting the iternal condition of the embers . o the Government gave ten a lai th e tittee t • k 11 " Ti. lOrt to foreign that . they did to domestic ,restest w as ue Noble Lord at the head of the Govern ae.nteli aware of the defects in cur re ae e a ware the Noble Lord must also be :„tibieee of ' • ,anxtety which prevailed on the - ledil y b•"e public expected that something . p ro e„ e clone Raricit:o3, speto.. , not merely as regarded Ireland, which, ivh• e t! thi s , ''''llge had no representation at all, but as rfe ittileh 1 6 Ltreeey. He did think that thesituat h ioN t n s , i seenePeople weee placed—that their orderly e lltl . s er laiese -s o ' f i ° . ri , to . the laws, entitled them to a further TT regretted, then, that . si°,lo7,teljo4oi h a e l -' n '' . 'l in fr r a h n o eh s is p l ch - " o.f the Royal Commas- QIN , t lesion to any extension e . f the suffrage in Do Itit mv,, ' any plan for removing class legisletion, for til t ! "Is t of 7 Y c ' t ninstion in that House, and placing L e st is: on n - tf e hands c f those who ought to o "e Pie ''ee did h teo e i ao n t .- - 0 13 . 0 then that some explaeation would . 401-. would '-s Point, and that the inquiries of the fe,,' well CA receive a satisfactory answer. f. The Noble 41 l'ns in ne w, he could not be ignorant o , the imper . - 4 4: 11 4 : Ze op t " e se e e d_ 4 ; ta e r l .e e f e o t r i ni ve s i y a s p te a m rria they certainly were such 44]ter stimitt, t:on of thewould give a country, or would peep.le.'ne-It, Nothingwith a view to a s 4 k g , 414 1) education in this . 01 0 , e to l ess , eli t e. eses e. , n the amount cf . crime . than such V s g ea u _ - do was much gratihed . with the con ertietyi, i, a ge of her Majesty's speech h et, b y "Pe and her that by d en-ending combining liberty with w h it e h r e at i 4 , Preservinv what is valuable, an • - nee • unree t • •- fabric of our in h 404 lye, You will sustain the , ii ii a d D DY n 4 l the abode and the shelter of a free and be e - t he Pe e -Ple •" Ile asked for nothing more then this, he oreesb was not a single individual sitting upon the thette 11 4; r thine (the Mini3terial) who was net aware i efelee'ete state of the representation. lie trusted i. ilt eati ' 1, - , rd re fer 00 t would tell the House whether it was his c 'res • ° Prop os , °die 'a th e any extension of Parliamentary 'la Drastic Pro sent session, so as to take away the %s ee 6 0 r st s" Il e d , ~of the nomination of Members of this , th, h., as h e r , aii not ask her Majesty's Ministers to go _ rowels], e Ir. Hume) did. For himself, he trusted ki r ; they Zil had. found that if Sou distrusted man peo ° , l Ple of , d distrust you. He maintained that the th p ie th to e - le , ei nstitution of this country was that the te:, llo l)l o 4 L i 'm lee the root of all power. He would ask iOtiota ,iv°l4 then —seeing that the defects of the repre e t , Nee, and so clearly admitted by every one, r efor m Pro ye " that the people were so anxious himselfv,f leLorin in/24,"'t--whether any changes in the nature, r _ h e ' r are ent it e-arliatnent were contemplated by the Go _ * Ifec o ° eenformity with the concluding passage of r il 'ald ges!Y's Speech ? He wished the Noble Lord h 8 11 h - " 3 lCle r th e Nro titia o sp oke f speech he . made on Friday olng night N ee eof di, ° the necessity of ren • all just 1 40 , p , p - e io a ,e a r e: arQr.,:a!itientatierinitiz the best mode of preserving the . the institutionsr f this country, le Y raore"nunt then used by the Noble Lord . would ri le: 4ll .le ttrcin felY to the necessity of granting reform ee i t Of rho as a means of giving contentment the t h 4 ° Pep I ) He (Mr. Home) on t l int e en P e • — (Hear, hear. L ee teil itee " a l frone himself that a large portion of tie ° k ept '; establishment during the last t A oyear!f h r ad , Le t e ‘ s eei r e „P to keep down our people at horne.—(ll" .) It, qe e,°nrable to the pr:neiples of the Charter, t 4 end Ariobated the violent attempts 41 :Z 41 00 c l :1 n had obliged the Government to resort made to carry tie t - unite -- keep down the deaaaud that existed ,.,_ h ee !try rsally in favour of improved Par i i r. e teilN ~ekesentation, particularly among f le th'ossea e l 'eth. 0 p al .. Li t tho Noble Lord placetk.(:the-m -l'erteele to . 1 e n ' 3l the constitution, and tar t restrict the 1!,te"•••-ctie'..u°0000, instead of 6,000,000 , or 7,000,000 ear d l 'e 4 11 ai l d ' 4 ,r , near.) Her Majesty's Speech ct ntai d (I le 44 11 41 " of sanitary measures, and he teiste e a , h °lett •the , inch:ow-tex— t:le/1w 051.\ Were about to remit v% U N e j n t.l tli,l w hich was admitted to be the greatest I 'leet ,"'deei u ‘ ealth and comf prt of the working classes k L ee tet ,'° tell tt : It was indeed a mockery for the Govern y7 air y kr dr c e People throughout the country to raise the P 4 °ll lei ) -l . l age, and to recommend them to get bet ,h'ee 0 ,.,' ebt a '3 7 their legislation, they shut out the best 94) j o lait{ ; 4 45 fresh air. —(Hear.) With respect to `ye ere'lliste' morn''e the whole of it must be changed.. iei t 'rtie e ' possess the means of managing their 41i e h 1 1 11 , 4114 then they might be called upon to pay N 4 tto e rdene. Those persons who were now un leeettieLofaralgrate, and to place themselves under the ere Self .", Would, if our colonies obtained the privi- A I*".4llateternersent, be induced to go and settle 11,141tet°„tlePorcosa,,` going to the United States of America. d ie of Portion i our military force was kept up for the qt, i , 4 14,1 -Nonies, and the Government might re li rati o §e portion of our military strength by an ohl ln tle tv e Lord rcolonial system. He trusted the 1 44 1 ag s Z ° ldd be able at once to give the House as cii% c4/14".rithees upon these subjects. teti t t ° Dort ia a:i:J.PA,,ZI had heard with great satisfaction 4tie vd' this lion. Members had given of the prlos -44, , oil ~ cop a . , La Co n t rary; as the House had already been Ith o 100, (4 ed at the present — moment a picture . of ktivi B peke f e at) The Hon. Member (Mr. Villiers), IvkiN th e r " ) . high authority, told the House, on tt 1 4 auppatiodress, that Ireland, if properly cultivate l i , tf 1 4 7 4 B41(1 what. ur n not only for herself, but for Englan . th in . b lali c i was at. the st.,,,itoter little olmru,eldition of the labouring classes Proved, because they could get every 41slii say tothing But they had not the " lit 1, habuit „cog of the " nothing."—(A laugh.) (4 h e . t t i iit , ,l4ru quis enim negat? et tamen Iliad 11 0 h.., - '411.) la e "' t t°tUra nil." " 4 CI 11041 e e n ulst say h e had never believed half that 4914 ;11.3 44-trw icro --- (Ctteero ir9na the (I,llbt, gticuti I le t t. t:rmc nists)—atid if lion , urable Members would do justice to look over the elivishm list, they would his name in favoar f .t mea-ure.—kCiiei .le ix, hear.") He knew tit , Britisn t r e::eversnee. Voltaire said of the people of this country, that they were des dens flees et hardis, and the agicultural classes might ho able to overcome their present difficuLie , , hut free trade roust be carried out. He had received f, om ahrc a I a letter from a friend who could not drink British port, and who was in the habit of getting over a cask of f ign wine. Well, that wit e paid 5/. duty, and his friend wanted to know how, with free trade, ho was to pay for that Germ .n wine? Well, another friend received some Sicilian wine, which cost 22/. in that country, and for which he paid 15/. duty.— (Rear, hear.) Let there be free trade entirely or not at all.—Hiar, hear.) If an Irish Member should prefer his native wine, and bring over a gallon of 4111141:y with him—(A,latigh)—to Liverpool, he was liable to a penalty of 1001. Here was free trade in spirits!; The very best whisky in the world was at this moment in the Liverpool Custom-Loase, where it had been lying for 30 years.—(Much laughter, arising iron the unctions tone and relish with which the lien. Member indulged in this realinisceace.) If an Irish Member brought over a pun cheon of spirits, and left it e.t Liverpool while he cam, to town fur the session —(A laugh)—tie fotindon his return that a quarter of it had leake I away. He was willing to pay the duty for the three-quarters left, but the Custom house officer made him pay for the whole puncheon, " be cause it was free trade." He had had it from Sir Juhn Newport, that Lord Castlereagh one° told him at the time of the Union, that he had gut from Mr. Pitt the gr,arest boon that Ireland had ever, received—viz., the privile4e of exporting her whisky t) this country free. B.at that intention hail never been carried out, and Irish whisky was taxed to protect the West India interest. —(Hear.) Yes, but let them not impose upon the Irish people by talking of free trade.—(hear, hear.) Irish exports had diminished in every single article, even in that of the whisky exported to foreign parts. Then what was the state of the Irish revenue? It Lad gone down more than one-half. In 1817 the revenue was 7,000,000/., and now it had decreased to 3,968,0001. What did Gentlemen mean to do in that case? They were giving local governments to other parts of her Majesty's dominions, and compelling them to attend on the spot to their own affairs? but would those Gen tlemen who were most clamorous in behalf of these places extend the intro privile,te to Ireland?—(Ht ar, hear.) Would they tell Irish Members to go home and mind their own business? No; on the contrary, they kept them there for six months listening to long ha- NUE i rangues about Ireland, sod when they - e eat back to their respective neighbourhoods they found matters in the same state in which they left them, and, inde eI, generally worse.—(Hear, hear.) Look at the corn ex ports from Ireland. The annual value of corn exported used to be 2,000,0001., but now there was not more corn in all Ireland than of the value of 14,000,000/. They had nothing to export, and the country was lying like a lifeless block on t'ao western waves, unassiste 1 by those who were bound to stretch out a helping hand.—(llear, hear.) In 1792 there was exported 90,000,000 yards of lir en, and now they were told by the Hon. Member for Rochdale—as a proof of prosperity—that Ireland exported last year 87,000,000 yards of linen. So much for the linen trade. —(hear.) They were told that it was their duty to assist the poor-law by employing the people; but how could they do so when they got nothing for their produce for the turnips, the carrots, the mangold wutzel, &c., which the lecturers alio were sent about the country encouraged them to grow.—(Hear, hear.) Ile knew an individual who employed 3,000 persons in 1846, 4,000 in 1847, and who at present employed only 900. The holders of the land were unable to employ the people, who were accordingly to be found standing in the vil lages and by the road sides Legging for work. The question connected with the poor-law amounted to this —not, whether the property of Ireland should support its poverty, but whether tie little property remaining could support the great mass cf the people in idleness.—(Hear, hi ar.) The workhouses were becoming a pest to so ciety, and should be levelled with the ground. Chil dren of the tenderest years were associated with grown-up people of the worst character, and he lied no hesitation in saving that morality was sapped in the union-houses of Ireland. If he was correctly in formed, there war an atrocious syritim going on, by which women were brought from one of the workhouses of his country to supply houses of an improper descrip tion in England.—(hear.) Ireland had, indeed, Leen ruined by tuisgo‘ernment, her trade had teen destroy ed, her debt enornaou,ly increased, an army was sent to keep down her discontented people; and when Ireland roes beggared they reproached her with always asking charity. He would tell them, however, they wanted no charity; they despised their charity; but give them the means and the power, arid they could raise money in Ireland as well as they could do iu Leadenhall street.— (Ele.ar, and a laugh.) He would now give one word of advicu to the Hon. Gentleman opposite, the Member fur the West Riding of Yorkshire. lie would tell him that the worst coarse a man could pursue was to attempt t) advance his cause by calumny and abuse.—(Hear, hear.) He would advise him the next time he spoke about the landlords of Ireland, not to allow himself to be libelled by having put into his mouth the most foul and monstrous atte ks that ever were made upon any body of men.—(Year, hear.) He was prostituting his talents by going about in this way from post to pillar to abuse the few remaining landlords who were endeavour ing to rescue Ireland from the misery in which it had ' been placed by the policy of their predecessors.—(Hear, hear.) If he thought he would propitiate the favour of the party with whom he was now associated by slander ing the few proprict ire who %%ere doing their duty in Ireland, he would tell him that he was mistaken, for he might depend upon it they would, in the end, cut his throat just as (so we understood the Hon. Gentleman) they would cut the throats of the Irish landlords. —(Hear, hear, and laughter.) The lion. Member fur Manchester had spoken of the Irish landlords as being uniaersally despised, but he denied the truth of that as sertion. There might be landlords who had acted un justly and harshly, but was a whole body of gentlemen to be condemned for the misconduct of a few?—(hear, Lea - .) The Hon. Gentleman then read extracts from several letters addressed by Protestant clergymen in Ireland to a society established in Dublin, for the pur pose of showing the extreme distress to which they had been reduced. One clergyman wrote to the eff.?ct that he had four children, but he hod received no income for the last two years; an other expressed his gratitude for a donation of 51. which he had received, and stated that he had only got 41/. to live on, with his ten children; a third, also wit ten children, in addition to the two orphans of a brother clergyman, who died of fever, had been long without tasting animal food, though he had had his tea, and when he wrote had neither food nor money in his pos session. —(Hear, hear.) What did they mean to do with Ireland? When Lord Althorp was Minister, he (Mr. Giattaa) advised him to sell the country and get r.d of her. They were then told by Sir J. Yorke that she ought to be sunk below the sea; and now they were told that they were beggars; but give them back their money, give them back their absentees, and they would no longer be open to that reproach. By a Parliamentary paper it appeared that no less than 275,0001 of Crown rents and quit rents had been taken away from Ireland, and ex pended for the benefit of England, while a number of Irish Protestant clergymen were left to linger in a state of starvation. No less than 700 verdicts had been re turned of " Died by starvation," in the west of Ireland witbiu a very short period; and what had become of their remains? The people were obliged to beat away the (legs from eating the entrails of those miserable and starving paupers. For such things as these the mem• bars of the Government deserved not merely to be called to the bar of that House, but they ought at once to be brought to the block. Mr. P. HOWARD hal seen with satisfaction that her Majesty's Ministers proposed to extend the now contractei limits of the Irish constituency. He felt it would be most satisfactory to the pe Tie of this country if the Noble Lord at the head of the Government would take some stop at this time of profound peace to eattend the limits of English representation. The people:by their lo) ally and orderly behaviour w e . e entitled to the elective franchise; and ho was of opinion that house hold suffrage might be conceded to them with perfect safety, and that they would duly a2preciate the mea sure. Should the Government not bring forward any proposition of that nature, he begged t) give notice that he should take an early opportunity of endeavour ing to forward his o Nn views on the subject. Mr. BENNE r would not have troubled the House but for several misrepresentations on the part of the Hon. Mover or the Address (Mr. Villiers) respecting the condition of the labouring classes e f this country. That Hon. Gentleman had stated that the labourers even in the agricultural districts had never been better off, either as regarded wages or employineat, than they were at this moment. He (Mr. Bennet) denied the fact as to their having more wages; on the contrary, their wages were greatly reduced; and with respect to employment, he was sorry to say teat a gre.t number of able-bodied labourers in West Suffolk were altogether out of work, while others received reduced wages, or were employed only for a portion of every week. Their wages were 75., and in some cases only 6?. a week. Bur, he repeated, great numbers of- able-bodied men were in the union houses, and in many unions these men had become unmanageable. Ile begged to ask the Right lion. Secretary fur the Home Department whether he had received any information as to the military being obliged to be called out to aid the civil power in the unions of Rougham (as we understood) and of New market, in the county of Suffolk? Sir G. GREY was understood to say that no such information had been communicated to the Home office. Mr. BENNET said that such disturbances had occurred, and he thought the circumstance would have been communicated to the Right Hon. Baronet. With respect to the ability of the English farmer to compete with foreigners, no doubt he could do so if he were placed on a level with the rest of the com munity by having all those local taxes which now so peculiarly pressed upon him repealed. The malt-tax, also, which operated as a burden equal to a charge from 31. to 41. an acre, must be remove], in order to place the former in a fair position. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by ex pressing his regret that the agricultural labourers had not been mentioned in the Speoch from the Throne, as well as the owners and occupiers of land. Colonel SIBTHORP had felt extremely anxious to speak the other evening, because he had had the honour of seconding a resolution at one of the most importail public meetings that had ever been held in Lincolnshire. There were from 15,000 to 20,000 men assembled at that meeting. Ile had thought it fair to put a question to one of the most earnest opponents of the landed inte rest in that county—he meant Mr. John Norton, mercer and draper of the city of Lincoln. He asked that gen tleman, " What sort of a meeting do you think we have 1 had to-day ? " His reply was, "An excellent one." "Do you not think that you are dead beat?" Ilis answer was " Decidedly." "Did you ever see a more inguential meeting?" He re pii6d, " Never in my life." This he (Cehnel Sibqiorp) con,idrer(ei m2st s:,tsiactury, corn:nl7, :es it did, Irons ro strong an out:neat. Mr. Noi ton tld that the Hon. i\lefaher for the West RiJing had come dawn to Lincoln: on Tuesday. He (Colouel Sibt7wep) presehned that it was not on any secret matters; teat there was nething going clausis forts. But why was he net at the meeting? If he could not have appeared as a freeholder of the county, there was another opportunity given him for arguing the question of free teak; a meeting was held in the city of Lincoln where every one would have been at liberty to speak. He, however, cause not, but pt.,- 'erred employing himself, like some quack doctor, in disseminating little tracts by which he hoped to poison the minds of the iuhabittnts; but he did not succeed. The other night, indeed, the Hon. Gentleman challenged the Hon. Member for Buckiogharnshire to come fJraviird and enter into the question as to the state of the agri culturist-, or rather, he should ray, of native industry; but as that Hoe. Member had given notice of a motion to the same effect it would have been wrong for him to have entered upon the subject tfo D.—(" No, no!" " The notice as about the poor-law.") lie should like to have i;elLed to the amendment a declaration that the Home of Commons, as at present constituted, was inefficient to e !act. Laws which would tend to benefit the couct-y or to curry out in - ire satisfactorily the administration of its affairs. With respect t 3 protec:i-n to native industry, he was afraid there was very little hope.—(Hear.) WhiL., he saw so many ausociations formed, theic was little chance for pre,toction. There was the National I?eroren Association—what a society !—a sort of Anti- Corn-law League revived—small in numbers, but ex ceedingly deceitful and treacherous.—(A laugh). Then there was the Anti-Peace Society—(Great laughter)— he meant the Pea.ie Society.—(Laughter). Oh! slip, went fir nothing. Well, those he called revolutionary societies; but then there was the Commission fur the grand Exposition in 1851; and who patronized it? He was sorry to say those who ought not to do so. Foreigners would carry off the premiums out of English pursue. Perhaps some of the secret service money might go t)wards them, and be was not prepared to say that it would not—every trick would bo tried. He had looked over the list of commissioners, and he did not see much to give him confidence in the protection of native industry. First, he saw " our right trusty and well beloved Councillor" the Right Hon. Member for Tam worth, and then our " trusty and well-beloved" the Hon. Member for the West Riding.—(Laughter.) If such were to be the component parts of the Commission, he could only augur, for experience had made him wise, that there would be nothing but trick and manceavre— native industry would be forgotten, and the foreigner would be encouraged too much, as hal bo n, in this metropolis and elsewhere—outwitting, if he could, and outselling the hard-working people of this country. But then there was the Emigration of Females Society.— (Hear, hear.) He was sorry to use such a term, but that society was a premium fir whoredom and nothing else.—(" Ileac, hear," and a laugh.) If they gave them employment here, by patting a duty on foreign articles so as to enable them to compete with the foreigner, it would do them some good. He did not place much rel:ance on the apparent prosperity referred to by his Honourable Relative. A man might have 5,000/. at his banker's on Thursday night, but if he paid his debts he might find that he had nothing there on Friday morning. Accounts might be arranged so as to present a favourable appearance; he had he and of such things, and such things might hap pen again. Orders might be given for 50,0001. or 60,000/. worth of timber to be sent to a dockyard, but you might not hear of payment until it was convenient, and then when it was put into the account it was mentioned as a small item. He believed that at that moment items were pat into the accounts to suit various party purposes. His Right Hon. Relative spoke of the Excise as being in a thriving state; but he believed that there were mis state merits and misrepresentations about it.—(Hear, ar.) The most favourable period, from the 10th of October to the sth of January, was taken; but he be lieved that if the statements were analysed and scruti nised the fact would not be found to be as stated. Sir JOHN YOUNG said he entirely concurred in the opinion expressed by the Hon. Member for Cork, that the peasantry cf Ireland were but little interested in the question of protection, and he would - Like tho liberty ( f caling the attention of the Hon. Member for Meath (Mr. Grattan), to a report of a Government Commission issued in 183,;to inqulre into the state of the peasantry, and more especially to that portion of it which relatel to his own county- In giving the detail of the average number of days the peasantry were employed during the year, the Commission stated tLa, the most skilful labourers were employed 150 days in the year—that the general average employment of labourers less ski fal was 115 days in the year—and that the average employ. ment of those who were too young to be employed in labour of a description suitable to the two classes named was 70 days in the year. Now that was at a time when protection, which was said to be of such benefit to those classes, was in full operation.—(Hear.) The fact war, that during tle period of protection famine and fever had been doing their work in Ireland to a fearful ex tent, and the Commission to which he had referred, as evidence c.f its bad effectr, stated that employment in that country bad been on the decrease since the pass ing of the Corn Bill in 1815. As to what was said in her Majesty's Speech in reference to an extension of the elective franchito in Ireland, he would be ready to give the subj 4 ct every consideration. lie held that a well devised scheme of the extension of the privilege in Ire land would be a great benefit, although be believed there would be considerable difficulty found in carrying it out. Before he sat down he would allude to an error which had crept into the report of the Irish Poor-law Commit tee which sat last session. It occnrred in the evidence of a witness of the name of O'Sullivan, the parish priest f KClalla/e. That gentleman stated that he lived on Lord Lansdowne's property, and that the rent he paid was 20 per cent. above the poor-law valuation. The noble ownnr of the property, conceiving that such a statement would lead to the conclusion that his rents were exorbitantly high, addressed the Chairman of the Committee to the effe.,t that the statement was errone ous, and that he bad received a note from Mr. Sullivan, who made the statement, regretting it should Lave crept into the report, and assuring him that the rent paid by him was far below the poor-law valuation. Mr. Sullivan had also addressed a letter to the Chairman of the Com mittee, correcting the mistatement, and remarking that instead of the rent charged being above the poor-law valuation in one townland, they were 8 per cent. below it, and another 17.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. BANKES said, as the Hon. Baronet had thought fit to say that during the existence of the system of protection they were suffering from fever, pestilence, and famine— Sir JOHN YOUNG—The Irish peasantry were so. Mr. BANKES—WeII, that the Irish peasantry were so, he thought it becoming in any one who entertained a different opinion to appeal to an authority to which he conceived the Hon. Baronet would be inclined to pay the highest resle t. He deprecated the system which had been observed during the debate on the Address, by those who supported the free trade system, to appeal to last yt ar, in comrarison with preceding years, as show ing the triumphs of free trade; but in reply to the Hon. Baronet who had just sat down, he would appeal to a year during which he was a member of the Govern ment, and he would compare the state, not only of Ire land, l'ut of the country generally during that year, with that of the last free-trade year. He would, therefore, take the year 1845, and let the House see what account was given of that ear on the opening of Parliament. On rt ferring to her Majesty's Speech on the opening her Parliament of that year he found her Majesty rejoicing that, on again meeting Noble Lords and Hon.*Gentlemen, she was enabled to congratulate them on the improved condition of the country. Increased activity prevailed in almost every branch of trade and commerce, profound peace existed at home and abroad, and among all classes there prevailed a spirit of loyalty and general obedi ence to the laws. The Speech went on to state that her Majesty continued to receive from all fireign powers tikens of their goodwill, and with reference to Ireland this Government, of which the Hon. Baronet was a member, made her Majesty say that she had observed with the greatest satisfaction that the improvements manifested in other parts of the country had extended to Ireland—that their political excitement had greatly abated, and that as a natural result private capital was more largely applied in the promotion of useful public enterprise.—(Hear, hear.) After that, how could the Honourable Baronet rise in his place and say that the continuance of that system of protection, of which he and his party were firm supporters up to 1845, had bean the means of causing such suffering in Ireland as ho had referred to? With reference to the division on the amendment on the Address, he did not think that hia party need at all to be discouraged. In that division there were three parties pitched against one,and he thought in such circumstances that one had no cause to be ashamed of the appearance it had made. As to the di vision in the other House, he did not think the result was at all to be lamented. The question, in his opinion, ought not to be considered a landlord's question. It was a battle which must be fought in that House and in th e country, and he did not think the Peers would be losing much of their dignity if they should altogether abstain from mingling in the fight. The Hon. Member fir Montrose (Mr. Hume) said they were in error, be cause they could not follow his advice. He did not, however, conceive the charge just, for they were address ing, as was their right to do so, those who formerly held different impressions regarding the burdens endured by the'agricultural body, but ,who now, for some reason, had changed their tactics, and calling upon them to do that justice which the case required. Besides the Hon. Member for Montrose seemed at a loss what advice to give them. Mr. HUME—I have given you my advice. Join me to get a reduction of the expenditure. Mr. BANKES had no wish that they should become at' a:ied to an insignificant party, and he did not think it right to taunt them, should they refuse to follow a coure which might at the time seem safe, but which might result in a state of things of a dangerous nature. But the Hon. Member for Montrose bad not been free from error on this free-trade system himself, and that made him less inclined to follow his advice. The Hon. Member told them that the repeal of the cora-laws would raise instead of lower prices; that it would equalise prices—(" Hear, hear," from Mr. Hume)—but the result hal shown how erroneous had been his rea soning. It hal been said that their manufacturers were in a state of wonderful prosperity; but he would challenge tho , e connected with the cotton manufactures of the country to rise and say that such was the case. Ho be lieved the reverse to be the fact. The woollen:trade, he believed, was in a somewhat better condition; and ho mig‘lt mention, in reference to that article, that in order to repay them for repealing the corn and navigation-laws, Spain bad imposed an additional duty on that article cf twopence per yard. Spain was the only country the llefnorurhaihsle great triumph, the West Riding had visited after t w h h e ic ji h o l n i a . d z e o r a t b h e a r d h a a d visitedrevolution. re v 0 I I n u t every iozi n O s tr a country the lio n. Member ha d visited re v olu t ion, instegd Qf free ' trade, followed in his wake. and in Spain an imposition of an a ?ilitional duty e n th e cxporta o f t hi s coun t r y.-- (I-re, lv:,;r.) In regard t o G r , N lun rstood V•at ar tle p cple Manchester were very mach startled at t h intelligence received from that quarter. He was astonished that so trifling and trumpery an affair as that mentioned by the Noble Lord at the head of the Foreign office t_La evening, in reply to the Honourable Member br Sh) ffield, should have given rise to any differences with that power. It was gross misrnansgemement to allow such paltry causes to produce such result:; and he candidly avowed that he thought the time was now come when they could with propiiety consider the reduction of the salaries, or of the number of their Ministers st Foreign Courts.—(Hear, hear.) He thought, without compromising the dignity cf the country, such might be done. The expenditure he would stand up against re ducing was that which tended to the maintenance of their power ned dignity at home, and that, he trusted, would ala ays be maintained in a manner honourable to the country, and calculated to promote its best in terests. Mr. SPOON ER would have been perfectly content to have given a silent vote on the question, if he had not been repeatedly alluded to by the Chancellor of the Ex chequer and by the Hon. Mover of the Address, and been called upon by them to say why it was that his prophecies, us t) the effect cf free Lisle upon the cur rency, had not been fulfilled. He would answer the ques tion without making what was called a " currency speech." He was aware of the impropriety of forcing his particular views upon the topic, when ho had so small a minority with him in that House. But the question was, why had nut the imports of foreign goods drained our bullion, as he and those who held his views had predicted. There were many causes why. The first was, the pe riodical influx of gold into this country, caused by a pe riod of low prices for commodities. He looked with alarm at the prospect before u!. The abundance of gold would promote over-speculation; money would be abundant only for a sufficient time to sot enter prise at work, without giving time for it to return legi timate profits. Since 1819 we had had those periodical al ternations. and they would come again, altogether irre spective of free trade. Another cause was the state of the Continent for the last two or three years, which had induced a great flow of gold into this country. In Bel gium our sovereigns had been made a legal tender, but they were now almost entirely withdrawn from circula tion, and sent to this country to the extent of two or three millions. All these causes contributed to produce the influx of bullion to its present extent of nearly twenty millions. Another cause might also 'be men tioned, which had acted to a largo extent, namely, the number of English travellers who now spent money at home rather than upon the Continent. These causes were, in his opinion, quite sufficient . to account fur the non-Ufilrnent of the prophecy alluded to. But let a demand for bullion arise on the Continent, or a profit be obtained by its withdrawal in consequence cf a rise in prices, and they would soon find on what an insecure and unstable founda tion their system rested. With respect to another pro• phecy, it had been asked why the repeal of the corn laws had not immediately injured the manufacturers, as was predicted ? He had never said so. But what be said was, that it would injure them ultimately. For, inst( ad of those dependent on manufactures being two thirds of the whole population, as was stated by the Hon. Member for Montrose, and the agriculturists only one third, the contrary was the case. If, then, this large proportion suffered from the change, the home market would necessarily fall off, and by consequence the manu facturer would suffer loss. He could not but repoat his decided condemnation of any system of legislation which rendered us dependent upon foreign countries for the necessaries of life, instead of mere comforts or luxuries. On that point he would content himself with quoting the powerful language of the Right Hon. Baronet from whom he learned the opinions be still retained, though the Right Hon. Baronet had changed his.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Member for Tamworth had, in 1842, power fully and distinctly laid down the principle for which he (Mr. Spooner) now contended. The Right Hon. Baronet then said, " Lookii g then at the question from this point of view, I retain my opinion, which I expressed some time ago, that it is of the utmost im portance supply. —(Hear, hear.)thratyo you should this I d beindepeno not of foreign p ro o e s a s b le, absolute and lookingind e independence, e t n o d e n otherc e for in te r that, egs perhaps,nothi would s r be more injurious to this country than for it to pass such laws as would give rise to the opinion that it was in tended to assume such au absolute independence, But, speaking generally, in a country where the labourer sub sisted mainly on wheat, t ) resort to a foreign country for supplies, is to make that country entirely dependent upon those supplies, rit'ner than to support the workman by our owe." lie (Mr. Spooner) believed these opi nions to be as true and as of great importance as they were at the time they were uttered. The Right Hon. Baronet had changed his views, and he for one, did not deny his right to do so, or the right of any other person, when conscientiously convinced that ho had bee wrong. But all that had since transpired—all that was now passing around them, proved the truth and the vast importance if the principle, that we ought to maintain an independence of foreign markets fir the supply of the necessaries of life. Why had they the anomaly of unfilled fields and uneesplo) el labour at the present moment? Because they had admitte 1 the un taxed produce of the foreigner to open competition with the labour of our own highly-taxed people. The result must be to throw the land out of cultivation, and to re duce this ccuntry to the state which Ireland was now in.. —(Hear, hear. If this were a mere question of rent, he would not advocate it. It was because he Lelieved it was a question of labour, and labour only, that he entertained it, and he warned them they would soon find they had been pursuing a shadow and a delusion which would fail them at the last moment, and prcduce a state of general discontent and destitution. As to the state of the manufac- taring districts, ho freely admitted they were at preaent in a state of greater prosperity than for many years past. Their wages had not bee►, yet reducad, while the price of provisions was lower. But be told the Noble Lord that the master manufae- turers were making nothing.—(Hear, hear.) The prices at which they were obliged to sell left no profit, and, deceived by the representations of those who predicted a long run of prosperity, they would go on manufactur ing until they overstocked the markets, and were thrown into all the misery and suffering of a state of commercial distress. Bullion would again become scarce, employ ment would be largely diminished, and the poor-rates, which they now boasted were lower by seven per cent. than they were in that awful year 1847, would again rise, and rise to an amount far beyond that of 1845. It was not the raising of rents or the promotion of manu factures that should be their care. It was not the pro motion of any particular interest, but the raising of bread and the welfare of the whole people. lie trusted in God they would discover, k.,efJre it was too late, that they would not advance these objects by the course they were now pursuing, and conscientiously opposed as be was to that course, he would cordially vote in favour of the amendment. Mr. MONSELL said he rose to take the earliest op portunity of correcting the mistakes into w hi c h the Ho n . atnhda had boldnessl httle o Member for Dorsetshire had f a ll en w i t h respect to Ire land. But, before doing so, h e wou l d remar k , with re ference to the speech o f t h e Hon. Gentleman who th w e a e h c a u s edt assert h in e firtshht that yHt their o . Me h e m c t b e n ae rt t h a t a d i d o o t I h w r e n e use r htwhahedo had j d istressusts legislation. Mr. SPOONER—Why that is in our amendment. Mr. MONSELL—It might be in the amendment, but be had not heard any Hon. Member assert it in that House. But whether it was in the amendment or not, it was opposed to the opinions he held upon the subject. He would not take the more prosperous parts of Ireland, such as the north and the east, but taking Limerick, his own county, where nothing but ruin had stared them in tbs face—where stock and land had alike failed to return a living, nothing but their legislation could have prevented the state of things from t• becoming imperatively worse. The history of the trade of Limerick during the past three years was simply this—that the imports to this port had ex ceeded the exports from it. They may seek about for the causes of distress in the agricultural districts of the west of Ireland as they might, but they would always come back to this fact, that before the failure of the po tato crop Limerick was an exporting port. Subsequent to that event it had been an importing port. He be lieved in his conscience that protection had been the main reason why Ireland had been sunk in the miserable state in which it at . present lay. In the year 1836, ' when protection was in its high nod palmy days in Ire land, the Queen's Speech contained a paragraph lament ing the distress prevailing throughout the agricultural districts. The report of the Devon Commission de scribed the condition of the labouring population of Ireland at that time, as being miserable in the extreme; and this was at the time when, according to the Hon. Member for Dorsetshire, protection was at the height of i ts b ene fi c i a l infl„„e. It was clear therefore that at that time the poor of Ireland had not the slightest interest in protection. He believed in his conscience that the pro tection agitation which had been carried on in Ireland during the last two months had done much to set class against class, and to indispose all parties to act for their mutual good. Ho besought Hon. Gentlemen to consider deeply the probable consequence of the steps they advo cated in this question, and to assure themselves before hand of the correctness of their opinions.—(Hear.) Colonel THOMPSON had just entered the House when the Hon. Member for North Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner) was arguing that it was unfair to expose the English agriculturist to competition with foreigners, on the ground that the latter were untaxed. But he (Col. Thompson) appealed with confidence to the House whether it was not the real fact of the case that the struggle was, not between the taxed agriculturist and the untaxed foreigner, but between the taxed agriculturist and the taxed labourer of Bradford and elsewhere, whose trade it was to manufacture goods for the purpose of being exchanged for foreign corn.—(Hear.) The ques. tion was, whether it was right and just to put the menu , facturers of Bradford down to serve the agriculturists? — (Hear, hear.) What would be thought of the former if, because they were heavily taxed, they were to insist upon taxing home-grown corn ? His constituents said, " If we are not taxed enough, tax us more, but do not stop our trade, the success of which alone enables us to pay our taxes, which is, in fact, our life blood—our all."—(Hear, hear.) A great deal was said about the encouragement of native industry. Are we not native industry ?—(Hear , hear.) Encourage that, or, at all events, leave it alone to follow its honest course, without checking it in order to fill the coffers of another interest. The principle advanced by lion. Gen tlemen opposite was the same as if they recommended putting a stop to omnibuses in order to encourage the ancient body of hackney coachmen, or putting heavy duties upon the port wino of Portugal, in order to give employment to the glassmakers and gardeners of this country—(Hear)—the result of which on the total balance of the account would only h be, t—St . tho consumer of port wine would give an increase of price without ge ting anything for it in return ?—(Hear.) ViAiourit di RNAIZI) denied tt a. frr e trade had done anything to improve the condition of Ireland, a, alleged by the lion. Member for Limerick. He also denied the assertion of that Hun. Member, that the recent protec tion meetings in that country had hr.d Vie mischievous eticet of setting class against class, and aLio in pn.vent ing the cultivation of the soil. These meetings were attended by persons belonging to various &asses, and they were invariably told not to trust to protection alone but t' rely mainly on their own exertions.—(Hear, hoar.) He suggested that the:Government would assist materially in alleviating the prevailing distress in Ire land if they were to extend the time for making repay ment of the advances which had b: en made to that country under the Temporary IlcEe;:' Act, &c., by fa cilitating the construction of railwayc, and employing the able-bodied poor on public works. Ile warned the House against the danger of depending on f)reign coun tries for any large supply of their daily food, and con elude I by saying that, if the farmers were to have no protection in the shape of duties upon foreign corn, he hoped the House would at least do them the common justice of relieving them of the burdens which had been imposed upon them in consequence of their having e joyei protection.—(Hear, hear.) Colonel DUNNE expressed his surprise at having heard the Hon. Member for Limerick assert that In - land had not been injured by recent legislation—seeing that that Hon. Member had recently dra vn up an (li berate report with reference to the Newcastle union, in which lie had proved, in the clearest manner, that the country hal suffered from recent legislation. Mr. MONSELL said he had referred to recent com mercial legislation. Colonel DUNNE, in continuation, said ho would give no opinion as to whether free trade in the abstract was right or not, but taere could be little doubt rf the fact 1 thTt it had inflicted injury on Ireland.—(Bear, hear.) The principal advantage which the Irish firinPr had gained from protection was the possession of the English market; and, considering that the Legislature had de stroyed Irish manufactures on the express understanding that Ireland was to find food for England, England was to supply them with manufacture', he thought that that formed a special case in their favour for the conti nuance d protection. There could be no gnestion but that, viewing the country altogether, it was in a gradually sinking condition. Look, for exawple, at the savings banks. In 1343, the deposits in the Irish savings tanks amounted to 2,927,0001.; in 1843 they had fallen to 1,334,296/. In 1345 the circulation in Ireland was 6,544,0001.; in 1843 it had fallen to 3,311,0001. In 1547 the land in cultivation in Ireland represented in value 16,500,0001.; in 1848 it hal fallen to 12,500,0001. As to the poor-law, it might be true that the number of recipients had somewhat diminished, but the expense had not been reduced. The manage ment of the poor-law authorities remained as costly as over. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, the Noble Lord the Member for Bandon hal spoken of the different pay ments made on account of former advancos to railways in Ireland, and suggested that they should be consoli dated. That question had been for some time under the consideration of the Government, and he hoped that on a very early day his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be able t o state the propositio❑ which the Government intended to make. With regard to the wish which the Noble Lord hal expressed that further assistance should bo give❑ to those rail ways, he hoped the Noble Lord would not forget that not only had there been the advance he had mentioned, lately made by the Exchequer Loan Commissioners, but likewise with respect to the trunk lines, both in the south, south-west, and west, there hal been schemes proposed to Parliarneat, and now carried into effect, for the formation of lines to Athlone and Galway, and to Drogheda and Armagh. In the present state of the north of Ireland, with the prosperity experienced by Belfast and the neighbour hood, there would bo no difficulty in completing the lines which they had been told last year it was de sirable that the Government should undertake. As regarded the general state of Ireland, no doubt there would be other opportunities presented to them of dis cussing that question. In respect to the statement of the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last, that though there had been a diminution of the numbers relieved under the poor-law in Ireland, there had been no dimi nution in the expenses, he begged to state that thin was an error. He believed the difference of expense for last December, as compared with December of the former par, was nearer 60,000/. than any other sum. Comparing the sth of January, 1849, with the sth Ja nuary, 1850, he found the decrea , e of expenditure was upwards of 9,0001. The Hoc. Member for Montrose (Mr. Hume), who spoke early in the evening, addressed several observations to bins on the subject of the exten sion of the franchise in this country. lie would not enter into argument, or give any reasons on the subject at the present moment, as his Hon. Friend had left the House, but would merely state that it was not the in tention of the Government t) propose any Bill for the extension of the franchise in England during the present year. The Hon. Gentlemen and other Members would probably discuss that question iu the course of the pre sent session, and he (Lord J. Russell) would be ready then, as he hoped he should be at all times, to asiert and maintain the opinions he held. He should not fur ther detain the House. Mr. FRE WENhoped the Noble Lord would consent to propose to Parliament that the interest paid by the respective railroads i❑ Ireland should be more equalized. Mr. SADLEIR, thought the lion. Gentleman who moved the Address had expressed too sanguine visws with respect to the recovery of Ireland. Any one who reflected on the awful calamities t) which that country ha i been subjected must be conscious many years would elapse before it resumed the prosperous condition it had e .joyed previous to 1845. He appealed to Hen. Members acquainted with Ireland, whet`ier there were not tem- porary consequ ?pees, resulting from free trade, which pressed on the agricultural classes with great severity? Unfortunately, it was impossible for an agriculturist in this country to emancipate himself without sacrificing, a great amount of capital which ho had sunk in the im provement of the soil, under the expectation of receiv tng prices that were now impossible. In Ireland, if an equitable 'adjustment a rent could bo obta'ned, the farmers could still cultivate the land with suc cess. It was impossible that the Irish people could come to any arranger it on this question if lef% to themselves. The great difficulty was in the vast extent of land in the hands of particular individuals, by far too large both for their own interests and that of the public. Again, there was nothing more common than to find the owner of land in Ireland with a rental of 1,0001. a year, who was not entitled to expend 200!. a year, and a pro position to such an individual to effect an equitable ad justment of rent was equivalent to telling him to retire into the workhouse. Ile trust id that a short Bill would be introduce 1, giving all the railways in Ireland who had still to purchase land, the same facilities that hal been given last cession t) the Mullingar Railway. The Great Southern and Western Railway of Ireland paid no less than 45,000!. as their solicitor's costs for the purchase of land; but if they had the benefit of the Mullingar clauses the costs could not possibly have been more vim 5,000/. The costs of inquisitions on land by the same company paid in fees to assessors and jurors, and in dinners and refreshments, wore no less than 36,0001; and the whole amount paid for land by that company was 371,178/.. no leis than five times the valuo of the land being paid in some instances. Lord NEWPORT did not think the arguments of the Honourable Members for Limerick and Cavan were in favour either of protection or free trade; and he ex pressed his conviction that the country viewed with deep dissatisfaction the omission of such words from the Royal Speech as were contained iu the amendment pro posed to the Address. Protection was not a question electing agriculture only; it concerned all classes of trade; and the operatives were beginning to feel that the principle of buying in the cheapest market and sel ling in the dearest was ruinous to the labourer. He did not wish the country to recur to a system of protection of a restrictive character. Protection, however, was the best principle upon which the country could be governed, but, on the other hand, if free trade was to bo the prin ciple of legislation, he called upon the Government to carry it out by repealing the duties upon tea, malt, hops, spirits, tobacco, and every other article which entered into the consumption of the poor—(llear, hear). Lord CLAUD HAMILTON begged permission briefly to explain his reasons f>r voting in the minority on Friday night. He had not spoken in the debate, t'e cause, having only arrived from Ireland on Thursday, he was too late to speak on that day, and on Friday the House was too impatient and desirous of coming to a decision. He therefore voted, with the determination of explaining at the earliest possible period. The fact was, he liked neither the Address nor tho amendment, and ho voted in the minority, not out of any spirit of hostility to the Government, nor in the spirit of the Ad dress, but merely because he felt that the kingdom of Ireland, as an important part of the United Kingdom, had not met with the proper respect with which it should have been treated in ber Majesty's Speech. There might have been at least some expression of sympathy for its condition, if no hopes were held out of remedial measures ; whereas all that it had met with was a recognition of its deep distress. But even that was glossed over and immediately followed by a jubi lation upon the general prosperity of the empire. For that reason he had voted against the Address; but he at the same time did not coincide in the least in the idea that the distress of Ireland was owing to any late legislation—to any of the so-called free-trade measures. —(Hear, hear.) For ho thought that Ireland could be very prosperous under free trade—(Hear, hear)—if it wore not for the unfortunate circumstances that had pre ceded the passing of those measures. He had listened with pleasure to the most able, eloquent, and winning speech of the :Noble Lord at the head of her Majesty's Government; but not one word about Ireland did ho hear from beginning to end of it.—(llear, hear, and a laugh.) Ile could only say that he wished ho were as ignorant of her miseries as the Noble Lord seemed to be. Colonel SIBTHORP said he had been misunderstood by an Hon. Gentleman opposit e . He firmly believed that protection would be regained.—(Hear and a laugh.) The report was .brought up and agreed to, and the Address was ordered to be presented to her Majesty by the Speaker and al many Members ai chose to accom pany him to-morrow (as we understood). PRINTING COMMITTEE. Mr. CORNE WALL LEWIS proposed the following Hon. Members to form a Select Committee to assist Mr. Speaker in all matters which relate to the printing ex ecuted by order of this House, and for the purpose of selecting and arranging for printing returns and papers presented in pursuance of motions made by Members of this House:—Mr. Cornewall Lewis, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Mr. Pus e y, Mr. Vernon Smith, Sir John Young, Viscount Mahon, Mr. Hume, Mr. Cardwell, and Mr. Loch. Colonel SIBTHORP gave notice that he would move to-morrow for returns of the salaries received by all per- sons holding public effices; and also for returns of all sums of money voted for royal palaces within the last three years, with the sums paid and the amounts to maining due. The House adjourned at Ida'f-patt Twelve o'clock. be. infinitely more grateful for a little wbolesom "letting alone." It is very passible to smother one with -roes; and many well-intentioned people war all excellent meaning by a redundancy of active poli7eness, which vulgarly amounts to " making a fuss." The name of Lord Ciif.kn emitted by mistake from ti.e list of the majority who voted in fAvt,ur of the Address. If we ever vi s it Mrs. C our t ne y agai n , we t rus t s h e will allow u s t o t a k e wa t er , even w ith th e " c h i ll o ff," if we choose. It is a sal thing that such a charming cottage, with a thousand a year to keep it aired, should be rendered uninhabitable by the fatal power she poi senses of "making a fuss;" and, in confidential malice, we can assure her that 31r. Courtney is often to be found dining with his club, when he makes her believe he is busy in his counting-house, and the reason he gives is, that Mrs. Courtney never can let a splash of gravy fall on the table-cloth without " making a fuss."—_Eliza Cook's Journal. Mr. D'Eyncourt paired off with Lord Lewisham against the Protectionist amendment to the Aclress, finding on: his arrival from Park on Thursday, that the death, on tie previous day, of his nephew, Mr. Rus of Bruneepeth Catle, Durham, obliged him to go imme diatdy to the north cf Engl4nd. MAKING A FUSS. BY ELIZA COWL. " Making a fuss" seems very insignificant and harmless in the ab s tr ac t a ll us i on , b u t a l as ! it is no trilling infliction in the practical existence of every day life. Those who have never been placed within full reach of its tiresome and irritating influence are not competent to enter into our feelings on mat ter, for it requires personal experience to enable one to judge of the extent of discomfort produced by such a state if propinquity. Those who have acquired some knowledge of what we complain of will doubtless give us their genuine sympathy, and those who have not will be grateful to us for affording them just sufficient initiation, to con vince them that, in this particular instance—" Igno rance is decidedly bliss." There are various manifestations of the " making a fuss" complaint, which develope themselver differ ently in different individuals. IVe have seal the most distressing and violent symptoms produced in many, by the unexpected visit of a couple of friends, for whom the " family dinner" was not considered good enough—these generally belong to the feminine gender. We have observed the worst demonstrations in others, when a cold, or sprained ankle has con fined them within doors for a few days—these are principally evinced by masculine philosophers; and we have often noted the extreme of rabid restlessness in some at railway stations, where the greatest possible amount of mental anxiety and bodily uneasiness was exhausted, over the safety of a portmanteau, and the choice of a seat. We by no means avow that these are the only occasions on which people who are given to " make a fuss" display their unfortunate propensity, but simply wish to show that there are certain times and circumstances which elicit their peculiarities to the most prominent disadvantage. Indeed, these peo ple are ever reminding one of " industrious fleas ;" and their unceasing activity over affairs of no conse quence, their pertinacious exaggeration of insignifi cant molehills into important mountains, and their system of investing all they do and say with exces sive parade, are enough to create a fever in any natu rally quiet temperament ; and among the minor mise ries of enduring spirits, may surely be reckoned the especial one of spending a day with friends who prove the heartiness of their welcome by "making a fuss." ----- SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATTERS ALL'S.--YESTERD AY . LIVERPOOL STEEPLECHASE. 8 to 1 agst Lord Waterford's Sir John 8 to 1 agst Lord Strathmore's Rat-trap 14 to 1 agst Mr. Mason na The Chandler—taken 15 to 1 agst Mr. J. Fort's Knight or GwyLne—taken 20 to 1 agst Lord &Icon na Little Fanny 25 to 1 agst Mr. Castle na Grande Lumfire—taken 30 to 1 agst Mr. Hughes's Tipperary Boy—t a k en LIVERPOOL SPRING Cup. 7 to 2 agst Mr. E. J. Irwin's Ballinafad THE NORTHAMPTONSHIRE STARES. The only bet on this event was 20 to 1 to IC/. age t METROPOLITAN HANDICAP. 6 to 1 sgst Mr. Gratwicke's Cheerful, 4 yrs, 631-- taken freely 15 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklarn's Snowstorm, 4 yr?, 41b IS to 1 agst Mr. Murphy's Dough, 5 yrs, Bst 51b— t 20 to 1 agst Sir G. lleathcote's Black Eagle, 4 yrs, 7st 111 b—taken 20 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Testator, 4 yrs, ist 2115 t 20 to 1 agst Mr. C. Peck's Melody, 4 yrs, 7st—taken 20 to 1 agst Mr. Gregory's Damask, 3 yrs, sst 101b —S 25 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Quiver, 4 yrs, 761 31b—taken 30 to I apt Captain Lowther's Bastinado, 3 yrs, 4st 71b—taken All the horses quoted were backed, but Cheerful only with any spirit; 6 to 1 could not be got at the close. TWO THOUSAND GUINEAS STASES. 5 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's Epirote 10 to 1 egst Mr. Hill's Pitsford—taken CHESTER CUP. 16 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Glauca, 4 yrs, Tat Mb -17 to 1 take❑ 20 to 1 agst Mr. Merry's Miss Ann, 4 yrs, 7st 20 to 1 agst Mr. St. George's Whim colt, 4 yrs, 6st 71b 25 to 1 agst Lord Howth's Peep-o'-day Boy, 6 yrs, 9st—taken 25 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Roland, 4 yrs, sst 81b-- taken and afterwards offered 28 to 1 ugst Capt. Harcourt's Ellerdale, 6yrs,Bst3lb 40 to 1 agst Mr. Halford's H trriott, 3 yrs, sst 91b 40 to 1 agst Mr. Gregory's Clermont, 6 .yrs, 7st 51b 50 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's Tho Knout, 4 yrs, 6st 81b 50 to 1 agst Mr. Isaac Day's Cockermouth, 5 yrs, 6st 10lb 1,000 to 20 axst Mr. P. Colgan's Horn of Chase, 6 yra, 7st 101 b 1,000 to 13 agst Mr. B. Green's Lady Superior, 4 yrs, 7st —taken and afterwards offered 1,000 to 15 agst Lord Clifden's Lodola filly, 4 yrs, sss 81b-1,000 to 20 taken once 1,000 to 15 agst Mr. B. Green's Pelham, 4 yrs, 7st The only horses in request were Glauca, the Whim colt, and Peop-J'-lay Boy; and on them the investments v+ ere not by any means large. The Augeaa was mistakenly included in the accept ances for this event. We admire hospitality, we love enthusiasm, we re ;pest good manners , but we are acquainted with a lady, whose incognito shall be preserved under the name of Courtney, who has often tempted us to ab jure them all. This lady lives in a very pretty cottage a few miles from town—a cottage intended for a complete bower of happiness, with its trelised doorway, its woodbine shadowed windows opening on to the greenest of lawns, its gothic gables covered with ivy, where sparrows twitter as only sparrows can twitter, its garden in front, its orchard on one side, and its three cornered meadow on the other, in which may be seen the blackest of cows, the whitest of ponies, an d th e most ancient of pet-lambs ; and as for the honey suckle, cowslips, dog-roses, and sweet woodruff which may be found in the immediate neighbour hood, why we would match it against any spot in England, and that is saying something. In short, it is as charming a home as ever suggested the con junction of love and a cottage ; but—oh! these de pressing " buts," they break in upon us like board ing-shoot ushers in a boys' play-ground—but the lady of the house, this said Mrs. Courtney, is alarm ingly celebrated for " making a fuss." Like many others of her " genus," she is " good at heart." She gives away beef and flannels at Christman, puts two orphan children to school, knits warm socks for poor old folk afflicted with rheumatism, and has taken in no less than five stray kittens within six months; but—there it is again !—that monosyllabic impediment—but she ever contrives to create such a busy, dizzy, walking, talking " fuss" ove r every body- and everything in her establishment, that we candidly confess we look upon the place as a domestic anthill, and on herself as the embodiment of all the ants in one. The last time we paid a visit to her we met her at the garden gate, just as she was going into the village, and we expressed our readiness to share and enjoy the walk in the beautiful sunshine ; but her excessive delight at seeing us could only declare itself by in - siccing on our swallowing a glass of wino before we started, though we protested against it with all our own strong disinclination, and the doctor's authority to back our rejection. Keys rattled,' servants hur ried, glasses chinked, cake-baskets appeared in per ceptible confusion, and Mrs. Courtney herself rushed amongst all and each like a locomotive champagne cork. We declined port, and she was painfully disappointed; we put aside madeira, and she grew pressingly ener getic; we scrupled at hock, and she became despe rately imperative ; and when we allowed ourselves to be victimized into a dose of the latter wine, she instantly discovered that we were sitting at an opened window, and the consequence of draught was impres sively dilated on. We were compelled to remove to the opposite seat, when she jumped up in dismay, perceiving that the sun was streaming down upon us, and she was sure it was "so unpleasant to sit in a full light." Down went the blind in rash haste, to the exclusion of the cheerful greensward and shining blackbirds ; and what with being obliged to take golden wine which we did not like, and forbidden to bask in the golden rays which we did like, our sense of freedom was somewhat wounded, and our easy temper began to chafe. Mrs. Court ney then again started up, bells were again rung violently, servants again hurried to and fro, and we were embarrassingly cognizant that a coun cil of alimentary policy was being held. We became bold in our p ining arrangements should be erturbation, and entreated that THE WORD "EMINENT."—It was formerly ap. d no alteration in the plied chi. fly to physicians. But it was extremely un made; but it was in vain. We were silenced by reasonable that the physicians should have the mo no poly of a word which, looking to its deri va ti on , s t r i c tly ina impassioned declaration, and heard the order given plies that its fortunate possessor occupies a height from for a couple of ducks and a cranberry tart, condiments whence he looks down upon the rest of mankind. Ac we happen to pa ss i ve ly scorn , cordingly, in our day, when a ll th e resources o f l anguage of cold chi c k en an d mu tt on chops, edibles we greatly are put under contribution to help everybody into rejoice in, was repudiated entirely as unworthy our notoriety, this word ' eminent' has been gradually drawn refined taste. from it s exc l us i ve app li cat i on to advertise the claims of At last we set off, and it would be useless to multitudes of people who, without some such herald of attempt to relate all the annoyance we suffered their merits, might app ea l i n va i n to an un di scern i ng on our way. We wer e sna t c h e d w ith v i o l en t p pe u o b p i i c e . in The the physicians wor l d s longer o the for o t n h l a y t. eminent tugging from a rosy-faced child that w e f e lt in , clined to propitiat e , on accoun t o f it s h av i ng h a d dancers and uphol s t erers h ave their own heights to climb as well as phy s i c i ans , car di na l s, an d am b assa d ors . the scarlet-fever six months before, and subjected which two latter c l asses are em i nent on l y b y v i r t ue o f to divers illustrations of the dangers of infection, office. So many eminent persons come out upon us and when we accidentally walked in a grassy w-a-d path, where,the dew laid as th oug h th e f a i r i es h a d been n difficulty would be to find one who is not considered by flinging their diamond necklaces at each other, Mrs. himself, or by somebody else, fully entitled to that r , h w Courtney was in an agony o f f ear l es t we s h ou ld ge t honurable elevation, Lich be eithe r stand o s , upon, o , in cold through wet feet ; we di sp l aye d our d ou bl e - so l es b e li eves that he stands upon.—The ' Lad der in all the pride of prudence ; but our endeavours to Bentley's Miscellany. evade the " fuss " wer e use l ess . H ome we wen t, an d hold their annual ball on Thursday next at I THE ROYAL SCOTTISH S O CIETY.....T tliS Willis ist nothing less than a chan ge o f " soc k an d b lls ki o e w i ll , Rooms, is aid a the Scottish charities of London, whoa satisfied her. At last w e di ne d, when lo 1 the ducks the " kilts" arc expected to muster iu full force. We were tough, and never in this eating and drinking hope that the numerous friends who enjoyed their fete world was there ever such a noisy " fuss" over a in June last will not be absent on the forthcoming pair of antediluvian birds. Our appetite was fortu- evening. nately quite destroyed by the mental disquietude LEAMINGTON SPA, FED. !I.—JUllien's annual con. which had been excited in us, and we secretly vowed certs and ball during the present week have formed our it should be the last time we crossed that threshhold. chief fashionable amusement. The arrival-books have We left with our cheeks perfectly hectic, our pulse been recently iascribea by the Viscount and Viscountess heightened, our spirit mortified, and our natural hu- Campden, Lord Elphinstone, Lord and Lady Campbell, inanity retrograding to a savage state ; and all this dis- Lord Bateman, Lord Burleigh, Lord Eastnor, Arch turbance in our moral and physical economy was deacon and Mrs. Beresford, Lady Browne, Lady aid produced by that simple, but peace-destroying cape- Miss Montgomery, &c. city of " making a fuss." RAILWAY BILLS ON STANDING ORDERS.—Yebter• IVe have another acquaintance among the " lords day c the Bill of the North with; t o o Company a c came woanyon from standingbent Continuationß d a r il s wa t y heoj of the creation" who is equally great in this way C an terbury, and perchance the air of Dombeyish dignity Deal, and Dover, with branches to Maidstone, Sheerness, G re which his "fuss" is ever surrounded, is even worse Feversham, and Chilham, and a loop Stroud throug h e ee tbein line fro ' ra cation be gentleman the enthusiastic style of the lady. Poor dear with to Woolwich, so as t s facilitate commun i cation establish. gentleman ! he had the influenza a few months since, tween the naval and military n Government A now feature and never shall we forget the general household meats, works, and harbours England.ilssionrs, similar to those in misery that ensued. Wife, daughters, and servants is the appointme t n ea t d of as c now of directors. The Bill was upon and i th ne e orreet grou nd de l a . were all objects of his dissatisfied grumbling. No read trus b ts ,thinesSouth-Eastern Company, and allegations pillow was rightly placed, no barley water was well opposed nen.eo y p flavoured, no doctor understood his case, no devoted cases ;—Liverpool, attention was prompt enough, no limbs ever ached as his did ; and, in fact, he was a Pandora's box, nition of boundaries. The standing orders wee© declared m and lie S d ou w t i h th por in t, t f h o e r lease i'olor t . i o n g the Lancashire and the bright saving clause said to reside at the w b i o t t h t o e u m t c to ro b s e b c y o , Iv ede c tio re ns ii i e n n t e h e e n w ee er e e ssa e r n y sta n i o n t e ic d es of it. Yorkshire, and other objects; the Monmouthshire Rail. and Perth, for lease to Caledonian Railway, and re la- This gentlema n i s one o f th e pl e a s ant members of way, for amendment and extension of line; and Dundee society, who will lecture his wife for an hourfoerf lion of capital. gu having permitted the cook to place Spanish instead t . THE WINDSOR ELEcTioN.--Mr. Hatchell has Italian olives on the table at his last dinner p t a e r r y , if commenced his canvass, and has issued an address to the who seriously moralizes with his eldest daughter if electors for the borough, thanking the voters for their „ promises, &c. At present he has no opponent in the ce on field, though from a bill published by an " independent she laugh above the noise of a simper, and haggles with a cabman on a wet night for threepence, he is elector," in which the learned gentleman is designated principle," before ladies ; especially en tir;some over the set of his shirts, and to our certain know- as the " Irish Sergeant, " and allusions made to the ledge, his last dozen have been altered four times, " distressed Irish, ' it was inferred that a " gentlessai and now there is a plait or two 7 left a thread awry, well known" to the electors, and understood to be ,Sir S o ver which he invariably "makes a fuss ." Poor, John Cathcart, of Binfield, would offer himself am .C . as yet ' we man! we have often stood in doubt as to whether candidate. The lion. Baronet has not, ho wever, .._ a _ we pity bins or his family most, but his example has come forth, and it is concluded Mr. Mitchell will nothing so imbued us with dread of it, that whenever we hear over the course. The town of Windsor exhibits of a young lady friend being about to wear orange of the animation of election. an approaching , , COLCHEeTER.—Liorg blossom, we instinctively inquire whether the " in- THE REPRESENTATION OF . .. . a requisition very nu tended" is given to " make a fuss." John Manners, who has received himself to be put in nominating We have a profound antipathy touching "fussy" merously sig ned to allow h,yesterday addressed the electors at people ; to be located with them is as pleasant to us for e t h hi l s en bor th ou a g nd was very favourably received. as living in a whirlwind of March dust. We get much LATE g DEAN OF LLANDAFF.—A young lady' nervous and agitated beyond expression, with their of Llandaff has decorated the grave of the late dean of unceasing fidgeting and fuming, and whenever their that diocese, which is within the altar rails of the cathe. tendency is exhibited in our personal interest and dial, every week with flowers since his death.—Enter kfavour, as in the case of Mrs. Courtney, we khold Gazette. DERBY, 1850. 15 to 2 agst Duke of Richmond's Ghillie Callum—. take 8 to 1 10 to 1 apt Mr. W. Edwards na Bolingbroke—taken 10 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Knight of Avenel 16 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's The Italian—take 17 to 1 16 to 1 agst Lord Zetland'a Voltigeur—taken freely 20 to 1 agst Mr. Gratwicke's The Nigger—taken 25 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Mayors—take 28 to I 5,000 to 75 agst Mr. Lay's Charley—taken In the early part of the afternoon 1,450 to 200 was taken about Ghillie Callum, and 11 to 1 to 501.. and 12 to 1 to 3001. laid agst Bolingbroke; 8 to 1 to 751 was afterwards laid agat the first, and 10 to 1 taken in hun dreds about Bolingbroke. Voltigeur was backed for all that could be got on at 16 to 1. THE OAKS. 13 to 2 agst Lord Eglinton's Probity—taken WARWICK AND LEAMINGTON SPRING MEETING, 1850. Nominations for the Trial Stakes—Mr. Stevens's Knight of Gwynne, 3 yrs—Mr. Scott's Warwick, own brother to Yardley, 3 yrs—Lord Strathmore's Tees wat.3., 3 yrs—Mr. E. Buckley's Ar3wick, 3 yrs—Mr. T. Dawson na Msrk Tapley, 3 yrs—Mr. Lucas's Eye-the- Boys, 3 yrs—Mr. W. Mosley's Alonzo, 3 yrs—Mr. B. Green's Osbaldeston, 3 yrs—Mr. W. J. Sadler's Wood sprite, sister to Hind of the Forest, 3 yrs—Mr. Merry's l3rennus, 3 yrs—Mr. Cowper's The Milner, 4 yrs— Captain Archdall's Rose Pompon, 3 yrs—Lord Cllfden's Torpor, 3 yrs. Nominations for the Two yrs old Stakes—Mr. T. Stevens's Britannia—Lord Strtthmore's Faux Pai—Mr. Little's Colibri, by Cotherstone—Mr. Armstrong's Bat.ker—Sir J. Ilaw•ley's b f by Venison, out of Baccha nalian's dam—M-. W. U. Sadler's Fringe—Capt. Arch dall's Quadroon—Mr. C. Jones's lunthe, by lon—Mr. Mee sin's Stafford—Lord Warwick's Leap-year—Mr. Parker's Tho Calculator (late E. O.)—Mr. Casidy's Whisper—Mr. Stebbingi's The Partridge--Mr. Merry. Louis IsTLFoleoa—Lord Clirden's Pe,utbrt. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sits,—You last week inserted an account of an appli cation by Sir P. Thesiger t 3 the Bail Court, for a rule nisi for a criminal information against me for a libel on the Rev. G. R. Prynne. I shall be much obliged to you if you will permit me to say that paragraph which the Rev. Gentleman has applied to himself was never in tended to apply to him—that it applied to another person —and tl at the breath of calumny, as regards the Rev. G. R. Prynr e, has never, so far as I am an are or to• lieve, assailed the moral character of that gentleman. I make this statement myself, ♦oluntarily, being anxious that it should be universally known that the paragraph was never intended to apply to Mr. Prynne, nor to any other clergyman of the. Established Church —a circumstance of which I informed him personally the moment that I heard of its misapplication. I am, Sir, your obedient sersaat, ISAAC LATIMER. Journal Office, Plymouth, Feb. 4, 1850.