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It 1611 , of course, be - necessary to limit the length of staves, so that they may not be applied to other purposes, but without exceedingly Ininute and vexatious regulations it will be impossible to prevent the use of staves altogether for Ot her purp-ses ; and we think it better to submit to-that evasion than to establish minute and vexatiou, regulations to pre%ent it.—(Cheers.) I hove that by t he remission of this duty we shall restore prosperity to trade which finds employment for some of the most in .genioustend respectable artisansof this country—(Cheers.) T he Rouse, I hope, I that we are justified in will consu kuig these articles out of the category of the timber Mr. L ABOITCHERE—Do you remove the duty alto tether ? _ Sir RO BERT PEEL--Yes, we take it off altogether. :te am ounts to 39,00 0 / . W e di m i n i sh t h e temptat i on to aud for ordinary purposes by making a simultaneous l'eclu etion on all cabinet timber. I now come to the last Mr. LABOUCHERE inquired what was the estimated fterilice on all these articles. Sir R. PE EL said, I think the los: on the w hole of these articles will be 320101. others, is the I that article which, of of the country. the I now come mostto ilriportant to the prosperity Hear, hear)—and come now to cotton-wool—( cotton duty on duty upon it. The present is concerned,. wool s, so far as th e revenue -16ths of a penny a Pound' cable to the whole amount of amount, an It and is about one-fifth of the total of manufactures. u assay available for the cotton-wool Tnat dut3' i i m s pi n s a r P t P e l d i l s , 4 estimated, and alt estimated, to add one-sixteenth to the whole cotton duty. nd order to give the full amount three-eightsoof a penny t a_pi li l ow v'piutrilposgen t e , d ) fi r v e e a - s -s o i n ;tee t t h it a h t s, 3.o in six -sixteenths or i duty on c';"°n-w(l° average. la be the total amount of isu 4d. alb. on the cent. whe n the price of cotton-wool three.eighths of a Id. a I • raw material. the oil the value of thesit is a duty of nine per lf pric e of cotton wool ib late is no a t m d o t re . a mounting to- isa three-eighths i n ,f a l i b l ee p n e o r f than 3d. a lb" less than -12 f per cent. n3 on the value severity on the coarse. o n e ot the - raW material. This duty.coarsest as levied falls with peculiar , , Upon the the Levi of cotton.—.-(hear, near.) hardly estimate finer muslin& you amount of duty, but theeacnoarser the fabric the higher It is in respect to .ia th e amount of duty. the manufacture o r t h at coarser cotton that the m anu f acturers of this country are exposed to the South America and most formid a bl e competition in es......(hear, hear.) China, an d &yen in our own colon_ i O f cours e , i n respect of the manufactured cotton of the d t nited S tates, we labour already tage, f rom the ready access which the p 'atlases& to th e raw material, and they are comp-- titors of ours in a ll t h e coarser descriptions of cotton. upon this Therefore, we conceive that to repeal . the duty generally, there is no article, and abolish it altogether, will be followed by the hey best results. And, speaking removal n- of other duties doubt but that the abolition of the ge d duty on cotton will tire additional claims for the of trade is now teat press equally upon articles csfgeneral consumptiion. know it will be said that this branch we should not dis llourishing I but, at the same the teirarthe competition by which tiin ti of other countries, and therefore anufac home m how we can best enable the tar cheers.) When we Lsbeevin-erameutsbtycon er his meet it.—(Loud tens of thousands enesider the thousands and indebted for their there are in this country who axistence and continual employ amount of it that Ztbis artiele---when we consider the into clothing— meanr went to the manufacture -1314411 Y manufactured in this country there is for w hen consider the extent to t - ; ._ •4 is consider the vast consumption 1- .14 that inform_ when we determination lay we a . • coming to the re well advised in vlllk h our m anufacturers are engaged in this trade, I f t o, • . article '4,,0 olistirng all duty upon the common dloss which the revenue blit'lL(Cheers.) The estimated of this tax—taking of cotton tete sa 'tain by the abolition the revenue re-_ . account the amount of less than 680,000/. (4teti uPon it last year, will not further alterations itteear, he ,it Her Majesty b 's e ri G , overnment did not th r4l to recommend to the House reviewed the cite: dude upon any other articles a c ) f this description.— vviarioes duties levied by the r ' near.) We have closely and carefully . and we have duties of those s t h e 7_, 4 ja detail the various departments ts• individual intere i s t is , but"is press most grievously Excise, admit upon n which of them say Itithout being b ound to at kilt . au ght to be removed, facie case against t ' ki t of the resents a prima and laughter.) list f . T , ee : . DI P shape.—(Cheers we . do not hesitate to its tig, er e is an article, a source of peculiar be open to . .q u... , Vtieh does appear to us to for its reduction, it rttl". There has been no clamour 14it there is its Present si al:' revenue to the Ex t ~taieed 1, 4 true and I don't know whether we had taken the duties et 4 greater popularity if we be the consider it to shuld not have eut, s° greater other articles; but we • not—the remova l el % j °f th e Executive to select those or articles—wheth e r i oft4ni°l:s exist with respect to thelnuentf. _ 1 d with the best 4411 11, "3 ' °T i which is likely to be -duty I am now r . Government may knit, The particular branch . of Nt h g to though the attention of the he. i ore ,"e strictly been called to it, more entitled 4 Sit d demonstrate is one Ne own, to hitherto ad s I have v e Non than many of the object I will undertake. to a duty rt ed s _ It is Aug respect'° ---(Cheers and laughter.) have aabiecte to which the Government , but it is I:11aq,, 4 to peculiar pressure ' meta after great "d ear selected by the not beei a i Govern l will venture to say i fill consideration. It is a duty ost objectionable— be hot"'s e° one will deny to be which ttterkt4e..4,a" latiehter)—and the ren T ni h v e al duty to or, 1 41 . ;rl,, with the best results. transfer of property, rat', is the duty on the free ,of which will (Cheers.) 'This I. a tkt !' r keel is tailed the auction dut3. in each part 0 me ; . ; )11 (buy is a duty which is leviablewas levied for the tr at Wiled Kingdom. It is a duty whichhe commencement ti, the NZwith little discrimination at dui t v from which the 4aterican war, and it is a e is completely . t tith t't' property by any other means dispose of his pity ; hut if a party choose to . , distressed are Itlretreerrty by auction he becomes subje r c e tto it. It is t r e a duty to which those -ectiliari r tka ... Y subjected. Can there short in a ti of the principle of this duty, than that it, several b w e h a o g a t ae aft e . - the that enforced . , ~.. after the Passing of law exe . eater c.ondemna non r -uPteses respect to its opera tu lee , were made with ktr the were was originally passed • e IY 1, as titan different . Ac R . thirty-twolaws grant- When duties. 'aetriptlon from the auction examine the t.,, . there have been to jetu otnteissioners were appointed .eare since, after the P _Xeise duties, some Y they made. this ,examinirig the whole of them, auctionduty : .. Tit ePert with respect to the' the first e t e duty on auctions must be among observe, all aste4the taztes to be repealed," Now,under the di eeeti ( fl anded propertv which take place t from the arle t i t) o 4 °I. the Court of Chancery are - hee l , n duty. It is a fact that there have PleeetitearlY instances in which estates order to be t'ititl ill the Court of Chancery, in tiut ,to the exemption fro m . the auction have been t o t.' *N'hat is the practice now filled with I"ales f t ? Ev er y n ewspaper is tdv 0 ek %tea ertrseree t by auction of landed property.._ 1t i, e ns of sales . . with . respect tea xPostd fur sale, and the value of it is the ascertained, highest bitil general Understanding being that ~ __ _H.. eeteer shall be entitled to buy it '3' V and . the contract. The estate is not sold,. The p i e ante of the law is defeated. The e pro following ur value of the property is ascertained by h sale is 14 ttirely siLieltileg Probably on the following day theh law is e (I . bY private contract, and t i e dea of supersedcd. To give an general re4liropelicy of this tax, let me look the 1 I t 1 ; 1 4 the year ending the Ist of Janu t a o ry , 184 0 1 1 phi 1e thole arciOUnt of property exposed to auction, __E. 11 (4 l , e Excise was obliged to take an account, W" thtit C 5 than 45,232,000/. In respect of the whole _o il !' 4 t , ~ there was the necessity for examination, and f ine tr:?!,lT,t accouists—the officers had exactly the se m I;ll:.ritlsed for:sale it). 4., u.t.cle. to perform in respe c t to the prop d e a .. s auction, aid which was not 501 , l win3uead with r e s pect to property that was sold The total as e,r, 2342 t 'td).lect to the accounts of the Excise w wilt t ' % et, and the total amount on which duty was paid . million`l76B'°°°l. Consequently, there were thirty-st eeera; °I property exposed to sale which was t th at 11 ‘ from the tax. Now are these two fac s t he °I. there being thirty-two exemptioas from . reiliteli,stieti°l:l duty, and there being only eight tw o " 3 .4 which duty was levied —out of forty- Millions eonelusiv , cot of themselves almost a The e Proof of the iropolicy of this tax ? three PreBeat Commissioners of Excise reported, Years . the aueti since, to the Treasury, and more tat • ah duty there was more trouble, v acat e that with at qUestioni arc was on account of attempts Wq"--a e si" ' "4 questions about exemption—there tlak a RI the t.‘ t .. 1. , 11 , b1 % with respect to this auction duty ""° ,O of the; ext.tise revenue reran 1 1 11 - 8 01'4' ) ii..olqrailst, Y'_Atitlßf4ll" 4 -G, PEBA CAA V - IS, 184 g. plates of glass having a layer between th'ent, was reduction of duty. But it is our ohjeat, while we estab as ten to one. The double plates t)! - b'r'ibled the passage lish the principle, at the same time viewing the state of heat ; theref ? re. to 'ell'ituraging the construction of of society,. and the magnitude of the interests involved doeb!t , V . :int...lows, we are t!king measures to improve the the consequences upon those ir`erbsts; a a ha!,ty and health ofthe community. The Land Commission in Trelara - rash InMrterelic'e, our avowed object is to realise the has recently made its report I reeelrid t!tit, report utmost degree of good; wiilonit the disturbance or alarm the day before yostrrde.y., The Cj'ommissioners had not of interests, which cannot be disturbed; and which can the , li6httst notion of the intentions of her Majesty's not be alarmed, without paralysing. the indt!stry or the 'Government, but in that respect they say that few mea- country; fir, I sabibil; therefore; this proposal on the sures will contribute more to theemnfort and i m provement j fisi t o f her Majesty's Government to the judgment of this ' of the loxes classes in Ireland that; giving them the command of glass at a cheap rate. That observation proves how much the condition of the lower classes in Ire land will be improved by the reduction we propose to effect in the duty on glass. All parts of the United Kingdom will he benefited by it—lreland, Scotland, and England, will be equally benefited. Ireland will derive a direct benefit from the reduction of the duty on glass, and I do not see any reason why Ireland should not become the seat of a successful glass manufacture. If it should not, it will benefit by the reduction of the duty, which now amounts to between 200 , and 300 per cent. This reduction will give to the people of Ireland, as well as the people of Great Britain, the command of as article essential to their convenience and comfort.—(Hear, hear.) In every point of view, whether we consider the amount of the duty, more than two hun dred per cant., or the restrictions which the levy ing of it imposes on the manufacturer, or the num berless purposes to which it may be applied, or the direct addition which it will make to . the health and comfort, I hope that the House , acquiesce in the recommendation of her Majesty's Go vernment, and select glass as one of the articles on which the Excise duty ought to be entirely abolished. The loss to the revenue from the reduction of the duty on glass would amount to 640,000/. I have now ex• hausted the list of articles in respect of which her Majesty's Government intended to propose the re • duction of existing taxes. I will now recal to the recollec tion of the House the estimate I made of the amount of revenue, assuming that the income• tax will he continued. I estimated that a surplus revenue, in case the income-tax is continued, would he available on the 6th April, amounting to 3,490,0001:• I - shall -now recapitulate the estimate of the reductions which would arise from the reduction or repeal o the different duties which I enumerated. I mentioned them specifically before, as to their amount, hat I will now state the aggregate amount pf reductions. The estimated loss of sugar, then is £1,300,000 The estimated loss on coal is The loss on the duty of minor .articles im ported, being the raw materials of menu- . ' factures • 320,000 The estimated loss on cotton-wool The estimat e d l oss on auct i on duty 250,000 The estimated loss in glass • 640,000 I include the loss on staves in the 320,0001 The total loss to revenue I am now speaking of the immediate loss—(Hear, hear)—if our reductions are sanctioned by the House, would be very nearly absorbing the actual surplus. from the in come •tax of 3,490,0001. I stated before, that in pro posing the continuation of the ineome-tax, we pro posed it for the purpose of having a large surplus revenue, but I thought it tight to appropriate the surplus, after defraying the recurs ieg ex penditure of the country, to the removal of those bur dens which pressed most heavily on the industry of the country ; and I conceive that the amount of reductions made fulfil that part of the pledge. Now, observe that I have taken no credit for the ultimate saving that will be certain to result by the reduction of the duty upon glass, for I do contend for it, that the result will be a very material saving. Observe also, that I have taken no credit for the increase of consumption that must follow the removal of the heavy duty on the articles of manufacture.—(Hear, hear.) This is an experiment, certainly, and I do not hesitate to say it is a bold experiment.—(Hear.) But, looking at the result of the experiment we made last year— (Cheers) —looking at what is now the state of the Customs' revenue after the reduction that has been _ made—seeing that the Customs' revenue on the sth of January, 1845, presents a surplus as compared with that of the same period last year, of a sum not less than 1,305,000/.—(Hear, hear)—after deduct ing the loss of 122,0001., which arose from cotton-wool last' year, and a sum of 61,0001. On cheeps' wool—the reduction on the revenue, after making this great experiment, will be 1,305,0001.. —(Cheers.) I have already stated that I intend to call upon the house to continue the income-tax fora further limited period, because I have the most confident persua sion that the reductions Made on the articles I have men tioned will be followed by the most beneficial re sults..—(Hear, hear.) When. I proposed the continu ance .of the income-tax, it was met by some objections. It was said that the country would be disappointed at the result, and that the increased amount of tax ation would tell unfavourably on the country. It was said that Sinless there was a reduction in she assessed taxes to ate amount equivalent to the surplus, there would be dissatisfaction, and that at any rate there should be a diminution 'of some sort in the assessed taxes. Now, what is the fact? There is no reduction in the assessed taxes proposed; but look at the reductions hat have been made in the other taxes of the country. There has beep a small reduction of some 40,000!. or 50,0001. of the duties on carriages and horses, but that re duction is traceable to the progress of railway conveyance ; and it is only extraordinary that the reduction has not been _greater ; but if you exclude the operation of those other causes of reduction, my belief is that the net of assessed taxes during the operation of the income-tax ! has been greater than :it was before. I say, 't cannot be contended front the experience of the in ' come -tax, that it must of necessity diminish the revenue Concurrently with its operation our revenue has increased. Remember this, and I don't conceal the fact, and it will enter into your consultations' when you consider whether the income-tax shall be continued or not. Remember this—that during its operation, the revenue has so prospered that the receipts in the present year, independent of the Income- tax, almost amounted to the expenditure of the country. Of course we might have avoided making. this experiment we might have ap tplied the' surplus of the present year without making . . increased taxes ; but we propose the income-tax, not for the supplies of the year, but for the purpose - of enabling us to make this great experis meat. In the reduction of duties, the period for which we propose.. the income-tax will not exceed the period for which it was originally introduced. I cannot* say when making this very extensive reduction—l will not say it might not have been a wiser. course- to give a longer period for the purpose of testing the'effiCacy of the plan, but at the same time I think it natural that Parliament should ask to hate'the control over this tax for a period not greater than it was first proposed. We do not ask that the income-tax should endure for more than three •years—for a less period I hope the House will not see the necessity for its continuance. At the expiration of three years I have a confident belief that that will have occurred which has now occurred, and that -it •will be competent for , you to dispense with theiricome-tax altogether. I have such a confidence in the elasticity of the resources of the country that before three years shall have elapsed the revenue will have increased to such a degree as will enable you to dispense with the tax altogether. Remember this, that the principles on which. we have gone, we have gone on advisedly.. We have in every case absolutely repealed the tax. We have not di minished the tax on glass and kept up a quarter of it. We hare not diminished a small proportion of the tax on cotton.- We have proposed the absolute repeal of the tax, and, 'therefore, from the increased consumption of that article we cannot expect any benefit ; but we do hope that indirect and incidental effects will be produced, and will be the cause of increased consumption of many articles subject to duty, and by . invigorating the industry and extending the commercial enterprise of the country, and by indirect channels, to supply that I void which we cannot hope to supply by direct taxa-' don. Sir, I believe that I have now executed the task which devolved on tee.—(Cheers.) I have, however imperfectly, explained the views and intentions of her Majesty's Government with respect to the financial and commercial policy of the country. I trust the House will, as they did before, without now pronouncing any hasty or precipitate judgment, con sider comprehensively the whole of the plan we have I offered, and • will consider whether or not it will be for the interest of the country to adopt it; and, after mature deliberation, my hope and belief- _ is: , that the decision of the House will. 'be* -in favour of the proposal . which• I have made. Whatever may be the dedi;ion of the House, at any rate we shall have the consolation of knowing that we have not sought popularity by evading the question of continued taxation.-L -(Hear, bear.) We have not acted in deference to any popular clamour, for we have selected taxes for reduction in r spect to which there is no clamour and no agitation. I know it will be said that the principles which. I. have laid down are capable of much further extension, and that I sought to • have, in defeseniae to those principles, thadeikttill more site live I House. We have adopted it after careful consideration, We recommend it on the deliberate conviction that the sanction of it by this Ho es tension of industry House Will et - induce tai the and the encouragement of enterprise, and that the result of that extension of that industry and the result of the encouragement of that en • I terprise to all classes of the country, whether directly connected with commerce or industry, be they manu facturing, be they agricultural, or be they not connected with any particular department of industry, our conviction is, that by the adoption of this proposal, industry and commerce will be immediately benefited, and that indirectly every class in this great community will find its welfare promoted, fromte been The Right Hon. G ent l eman sat down amidst great cheering Opposition put, benches. lie spoke for three hours and a q uarter. The question istion h having Sir ROBERT PEEL said he did not wish the House to affirm any proposition that night ; but he trusted that they would see the great importance, on account of many branches of commerce, of pro ceeding as early as possible to the consideration of the various proposals. He hoped they would be in a condition to pronounce, on Monday, on the general outlines. Of course, the affirmation of the reso• lotion would not bind - the House, but its adoption would enable the House to proceed at once to take the sense of the House with respect to the pro posed alterations. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, considering the impor tance of the subjects which had been brought before the [louse, he quite concurred in what had fallen from the Right Hon. Baronet. He would not ask fir a day's delay beyond Monday ; and on that occasion he would take a general view of his proposals. The sugar duties formed a. most important part of the plan, and one which he thought was open to much oljeetion ;' but he would say nothing on the subject till the debate on Monday night. Sir 11. PEEL said it was desirable to proceed as soon as possible with all the articles except glass, which would require some previous communication with the manufacturers. Mr.- LIDDELL was glad to hear that a reduction was to be made in the duty on coals, but there were some observations made by the sight Hon. Baronet in which he could not con cur. Those observations were entered into with marked atten tion, and appeared to create no small sensation on the other sitle:ef the House; -but he could not allow them to-pass unno tired, because he was naturally jealous of his own honour and of the honour of those whom he represented.—( Hear, hear ) He could not but regret that the Right Hon. Baronet should have felt called upon to comment upon what he termed a com bination in the coal trade. In spite of the evidence which had been given, on a former occasion, by competent parties, a great misapprehension still prevailed en this subject ; but he would nevertheless content himsell by disproving it in one single sentence, which he trusted would put. an end to this too general and unfortunate misapprehension. The Right Hon. Baronet had presumed that this combination existed, but he certainly was in error. No such combination had ever to his knowledge existed, and if any Hon. Gentleman on the opposite side of the House would think proper to move for a Select Committee to inquire into the subject, he would gladly second it.—( Hear, hear.) Lord HOWICK could not help expressing his satisfaction at finding the Right Hon. Baronet was now convinced that his present step was, not quite so bad a move as he seemed to think it was last year, and the year before. His conviction, however, was, that if the coal-owners had sat quietly down under this tax till her Majesty's Government thought fit to repeal it, the year 1945 would not have been distinguished by its repeal. If a n y H o n. Member f o ll owe d t h e adv i ce of • the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last, he thought it could be distinctly proved that the combination not only did exist, but that it did a very serious injury to the City of London as well. He thought this could be proved, and proved to de monstration too. It was a combination adverse and contrary to every principle of fair trade, and it had not only been inju rious to the country, but to the parties who formed it. Com binations of masters were not less serious in their results than combinations of workmen were injurious to them. The strike of last year produced extreme suffering to the labourers in the collieries, and his conviction was, that the regulations which existed for the last few years had been attended with the very worst results to the coal-owners. Having said thus much, he should follow the wish of the Right Hon. Baronet, and avoid expressing any opinion till Monday upon the general character of the Budget. But there was one point upon which he entertained a very strong opinion, and he could not, even at that moment, refrain from making a remark or two upon it. There was an insurmountable objection to the arrangement the Right Hon. Baronet proposed with regard to sugar. He could not help regretting that the Right Hon. Baronet had not fol lowed the same course—and he might have done so without any serious sacrifice of revenue—with regard to sugar he did to coal. He did not agree in his maintaining a distinction be tween free-labour sugar and slue-grown sugar. The Right Hon. Baronet, while he was dealing with the Excise duties, might have removed the duty on bricks without very mate rially diminishing the resources at his command. But he did not mean to ray thus much, tut he could not avoid protesting against the measure which admitted free-labour sugar at a much lower valuation than any other. It had produced much mischief, and he hoped the Right Hon. Baronet would shortly see the necessity of repealing it. Mr. T. BARING, as the representative of a coal-mining district, could not suffer the reflections which had been made upon the coal-owners to pass unnoticed. But at the same time he must thank the Right Hen. Baronet for removing a tax which had pressed very severely on the whole body of coal owners. It was untrue that a combination had existed which allowed the foreigner to have an advantage over this country. There was no such thing as had been asserted as two prices. The fact was, the foreigner would not take the high-priced coal, and hence, probably, arose the mistake into which some lion. Members had fallen. He could state positively that the foreigner did not, nor ever did, possess an advantage over the home consumer. Mr. HUME did not agree with what the Hon. Member said, for having been Chairman of a Committee appointed to in quire into some matters relating to the coal district, he could state that from the evidence which came before him he had every reason to believe in the existence of the alleged combi nation. He merely rose to say, that although the first part of the Right Honourable Baronet's speech required great consideration, his opinion of the last part was fully made up. He fully agreed in the principle which had actuated the Right Honourable Baronet, and he thought the selections the Right Hon. Baronet had made were most judicious. There was but one article to which he could object, and that was sugar. The window-tax pressed heavily on the country, but he agreed with the Right Hon. Baronet that the repeal of the duty on glass would be attended with much more benefit than the remission of the window-tax. He trusted he should see the day when the Excise department would be alto gether abolished, and no other duties suffered to exist but those on malt and spirits, which might be transferred to some other department. After a few words from Mr. TURNER, Lord CLEMENTS expressed some regret that the Right Hon, Baronet had made no f urt h er reduction of the duties on. timber. Such a step would be a great benefit to Ireland. It would enable them to build their habitations much cheaper than they did at present. Mr. H. HINDE did not wish to trouble the House with many remarks, but he could not help concurring in the general expression of satisf ac ti on w hi c h the Right Hon. Baronet's speech had produced. H e w i s hed, however, to say a few words with reference to glass. He agreed in the ex pediency of reducing .the duty on this article, but he thought the Right Hon. Baronet ought to allow a drawback on the stock in hand. If he did not, the property of the manufac turer would be depreciated. An additional tax was to be im posed on auctioneers. This, he believed, would be a tt ended with no beneficial result. Many persons in the country pro. cured 'a • livelihood by following this occupation, but they were subject to this tax, they would be compelled to if re in quish it. notintend t o re duction would be made, the Government did allow a drawback on the stock in hand. the Right Hon. Dr. BOWRING would have rejoiced if Sir R. PEEL said, considering the. period when the it was his wish that the tax should be made permanent s instead Baronet had consented to a modi of transitory. He regretted to hear that it was t he intention naval and of her Majesty's Government to augment the mili tary force of the country. fication of the property-tax. It was quite unnecessary, inas much as the exigencies of the times did not call for the pro.. posed increase. Col. SIBTHORP regretted extremely that the Right Hen. Paronet did not introduce, amongst his list of reductions, a re mission in the post-horse and hackney carriage duty. The post masters had been greatly injured by having to contend with the railways, which now communicated to all parts of the kingdom ; and he (Colonel Sibthor) thought that it would but have been evert-handed justice if, for th e rem i ss i on to b e made in that duty, he had added an equivalent to th e d u ti es borne by the system which had almost ruined them. Mr. ROEBUCK, although conceding that the benefits which the Right Hon. Baronet had proposed would meet with universal approbation, would not disguise the fact that these benefits were quite counterb alance d by the mischiefsarising from the operation of the income-tax and property-tax. Those mischiefs would be a great drawback in the general benefits accruing to the community from the remissions pro posed by the Right Hon. Baronet. This obnoxious law had been termed indifferently the property or the income-tax ; but he (Mr. Roebuck) observed a very great distinction between incomes derived from professional exertions, and those derive - ble from property: If the Right Hon. Baronet had but gone a step further, and modified that tax, then, indeed, his pro positions made that night would be hailed as a relief by the community. Still he gave the Right Hon. Baronet credit for a very great advance made in the right direction—the greatest advance he (Mr. Roebuck) had yet seen or had known of in the course of the Ministry's existence ; and while he thanked the Right Hon. Baronet for the good he had promised, he had felt it but right to point '-out a source of mischief which might have been avoided. Mr. WAKLEY said, that considering the very great good that had been promised them by the Right Hon. Baronet, he could not, for one, find one word of condemnation. He (Mr. Waklev) represented a large constituency in that metropolis, and in their names he could not refrait. from expressing his extreme sat i sfact i on at t h e propositions made that night by the Right Hon. Baronet. All the reductions he had promised had a direct tendency to relieve the poorer classes, and to promote the course . of industry, and in promoting that,- the Right Honourable Baronet did the greatest service to the country. He would not, therefore, as he had stated already, say one word in condemnation of any one of his pro positions, for be (Mr. Waklcy) was hut too much gratified for the good he proposed to the best interests of the working glasses. , • • Sir R. H. .INGLIS, while agreeing in the'commendations passed upon the Right Hon. Baronet, could not help wishing that in a proposed continuance of the income-tax, only the salaries which exceeded 150/. should be affected by it. 'This would relieve a large proportion of the industrious class, who were least able to bear its pressure, from the income tax ; anti he also concurred in the observations made by the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath, that it would be highly expedient were thole exempted from the operation of the tax whose dependence was solely on their daily exertions, or their healths, or on the popular applause. It was hard that persons in public or commercial offices should pay the same tax upon their incomes as if they bad derived them from land. It was hard that the poorer classenhould pay in the same proportion that di, Dyks of prorthnmberland or any other nobleman did; and he trusted it was not too late now to give the subject their best attention. The 'ICS-CHANcEILOH confirmed. Mr. WARD then rose, and spoke as follows : Mr. Vice-Chencellor,—l am bound at once to state, that I shall tiontlttde What I have to say by delivering in to you a formal protest against the legality of this whole proposal. I deny that this vener able house has any power, with the present object in view, to decide on the euestien, whether or not my opinions be consistent with the 89 Article.; much mere I deny that it has any power to deprive me of my degrees. Still I cal.nnt shut ray eye* to the fact, that, should these proposals be unfortunately adopted, they may produce considetable effect:---I do not say on my own personal credit, but, what is incomparably more important —on the getseral well.being of our Church—nay, you must excuse me if I add, on the credit and good name of this University. (Here some •ery marked demonstrations of applause were made in the theatre, com mencing, as far as could be understood, in the semicircle filled with heads of houses, doctors, &c., and spreading partially round the area on which the greater number of the members were stand. ing. Mr. Ward immediately addressed himself to those who had made the interruption thus :—" I am sure all who are here must feel that we are engaged in a very grave judicial inquiry, and that those who are here thus as judges will weigh with judicial gravity what may be said On the occasion ; and that, therefore, there will not be any demonstration of opinion or of feeling, however much it Might be, personally grateful to me to feel that any such demon stration was in my favour." Mr. Ward then continued his speech.) Feeling this, as I do, very strongly, and believing in my conscience that this measure, as a whole, however otherwise intended by many of its supporters, is oppressive and unjust. I cannot bring myself to pass over any legitimate opportunity given me to influence the decision to which this house may come; and I shall therefore proceed to press on your attention the chief topics which occur to me as reasons likely to avail with you for its rejection. In speaking, then, or myself, as of an accused person, and of members of Convocation here present as any judges, you will not understand me to concede that any charge is se much ise alleged against me on which I believe Convocation to have cognisance, but only to concede, for argument's sake, what this is not the place to dispute, in order that there may be free scope for what I have to my. If ever there was an occasion when an accused person was warranted in using the most urgent and cla morous solicitations for a full, calm, and unprejudiced hearing, such an occasion is the present. I stand here the supporter of doctrines which the great majority of you who claim to try me hold in suspicion and dislike; the question which you have to determine is absolutely and entirely distinct from the merit of those doctrines; and yet, unless you make the greatest possible effort to free your minds from undue prepossession, it is quite certain that the dislike and suspicion in which you hold the doc. trines themselves will bias you, even without your own know ledge, in judging of the wholly different issue which you have to determine. I repeat—for I cannot repeat it too often—the issue before you has no more to do with the question whether the doctrine in my book be true or false, than with the question whether my style of writing be good or bad, or whether my expo sition be dull or interesting. You have beard the proposition submitted to you ; it is a declaratory proposition, intended to serve as the foundation for an enactment. The declaration is, that I have violated the engagement on which my degrees were conferred; and the enactment, that I be deprived of those degrees. You see at once that no theological determination is so much as hinted at : my opinions are complained of, not as being false, or dan. gerous, or undutiful, or rash, but as being inconsistent with my good faith. One issue in regard to them, and one only, is placed be fore you—their consistency with certain formularies which I sub scribed when I received my degrees, and my good faith in respect of those subscriptions. If the Oxford Convocation had any claim to represent the Church of England, undoubtedly their disappro. bation of my theology might have the utmost weight in determin ing (even then I don't see how it could determine what has been the meaning of subscription, but) what hereafter it is to be. But you who are to be my judges have no royal road open to discover ing the true sense of the Church of England. You must proceed by the same humble path along which a private individual like my self proceeds : you must judge of her sense by examining her for. faulories. All the wishes in the word cannot alter facts. Your belief that certain doctrines are ever so pernicious can have nothing to do with the question whether they are allowed by the symbolical documents of the English Church; and yet I cannot but fear that vast numbers of you mix up in your minds these ab solutely distinct matters, and spare yourselves the trouble of ex. amining this question that is before you, because of your intense conviction on a question that you have nothing to do with. And this difficulty of procuring a fair hearing is greatly increased •by the necessary nature of my defence—l sub• scribe certain formularies in what I have called a non natural sense. Granted. But is it the intention of the Church of England that they necessarily be subscribed in a natural sense? If it be, then it is the intention of the Church of Eng. land that there shall be no subscribers to them at all. Now, this is an unpopular line of argument from its very nature; and my m , ailing in it has been much misunderstood. The pamphlet which I have put out in my defence I have heard characterised as dealing merely with what is commonly called the to qUOVie argument—as an attempt to prove that we are all dishonest together. It would be much nearer the truth to say that it tends to prove that we are all honest men together. I argue thus—the imponens of subscrip tion cannot be an abstraction or a historical personage—it must be some existing, living person or body. The said imponens, who ever he is, wishes some considerable number of persons to subscribe our formularies; but if he wished them all to be subscribed in a natural sense, no considerable number of persons, nor any person at all, could sign them ; therefore he does net wish them all to be subscribed in a natural sense. It has been replied upon me, that I at least carry the license beyond all bounds. I answer, that where the imponens has spoken on one particular case, that case must be judged of by the analogy of those on which he has practically spoken; and I believe that there is no single party in our Church holding its place there by however long and undisputed prescrip tion, who does not do greater violence to one or other part of our formularies than I do to that comparatively small portion of our formularies which appear on their surface to condemn Roman doctrine. And it Is the minor premises in these two syllogisms at which I have laboured in my pamphlet —I have laboured, namely, to show that every one here present subscribes a considerable part of our formularies in a non.natural sense, and that the opinions which dis tinguish such as myself from the great body of Eng lish Churchmen do not necessitate so violent a distortion of the letter of our formularies as do the ordinary high Church opinions, or what are sometimes called (though I don't wish to use an offen sive term) latitudinarian opinions, or what are sometimes called (though I don't wish to acknowledge that term either) evangelical opinions. This line of argument, it must be confessed, is an ex. oeedingly ungracious one, and there is more than one reason which renders it extremely difficult for you to do it justice. In the first place, I cannot deny that it implie•, more or less, of dispa ragement of our formularies, by representing them as to some ex tent contradictory to each other in spirit, and inconsistent in their prima facie statements ; and we all know, whether it be a matter of praise or blame, there is no one more geseral characteristic of English Churchmen than that an imputation on the existing system is the one allegation for which it is most difficult to obtain a fair hearing. In the next place, persons who have for half their lives held a cettain doctrine and also subscribed a certain formulary, unless they have an unusual power of abstraction, will hardly ever see any inconsisistency between the doctrine and the formulary; a new doctrine is brought before them, and its inconsistency with the obvious bearing of some article is readily discovered. So, to take the strongest case that could possibly be brought, it might have been thought quite impossible that any one should read out baptismal service, and doubt that, according to the obvious and prima Jade doctrine of that service, baptism conveys to infants a real inward gift. Before baptism,—" Thou who didst sanctify water to the mystical washing away of sin, look upon this child, wash him, and sanctify him with the Holy Ghost." After,—" We yield Thee hearty thanks that it hath pleased Thee to regenerate this infant with Thy Holy Spirit." And yet there have been multitudes of religious and upright men, as we all know, who have been quite unable to see it—some, perhaps, here present, full of indignation at my bad faith in subscribing formu laries in a non-natural sense. I refer to these points in no spirit of party recrimination, but to illustrate what I mean. In like manner, on the other side of the question, tic same remarks apply to the sense of the article on General Councils. This, in truth, is the account that must be given of the strange fact, that far a long time past the two main divisions of our Church have been railing at each other for dishonest subscriptions, each side wondering how members of the other can reconcile it to their conscience to remain ministers of the English Church. I believe, myself, one side has about as much difficulty as the other; certainly, for one, I never could adopt the language I have heard used in calling upon " Evangelicals," as honest men, to resign their preferment. I am far too deeply impressed with the difficulty of the whole question as to subscription, and, moreover, lay far toe great a stress on the circumstance that both parties have in fact beets tolerated within our Church, to be able myself to adopt such language ; but I have said this to illustrate my position, how very difficult it is for per sons to see the prima contrariety between their own opinions and formularies which they revere, and by necessary consequence how much they will inevitably exaggerate that contrariety in the case of another. The argu. ment appears, also, in a strong point of view on re. forting to the wording of the 7th article, which says :—" The Old Testament is not contrary to the New, for both in the Old and New Testament everlasting life is offered to mankind by Christ," &C. Nbw, it is held by some that, unless you view this portion of ' that article in some particular light, it means that a future state was not revealed to the Jews. Many think one way on that sub ject, and many another; but the words of the article would seem on the surface to condemn the opinion that a future state was not revealed to the Jews. Two pamphlets have appeared, in which the subject is considered with reference to my own supposed mo tives in acting as I have done in this question, What is said of me in one of these pamphlets would be most painful to my feelings, were it not that I am not conscious of being actuated by the sordid motives imputed to me. The author looks upon me as a man who trifles fearfully with truth and honesty ; warns every one against my principles, and, at the same time, himself adopts an interprets. tion of the 7th Article which is in the highest degree non-natural. He actually believes that that Article, in condemning the theory that the early patriarchs looked only to temporal rewards, does not at all assert that they knew and believed in the doctrine of a future state of rewards and punishment. Such, I say, is an instance of the way in which a man, unquestionably honest himself, can accuse me of trifling with truth, while he himself dis. torts one of our Articles in the most startling manner. Mr. Ward, after having obtained permission to rest for a short time, went on to say, that he had another point to urge, and which would show most forcibly, as he conceived, how much more easy it was for persons to lay down that certain things were wrong, than to define what was right. The point he referred to was, that the Committee of the Hebdomadal Board, after having agreed to and drawn up the propositions for Convocation, applied them selves to a third object—that of defining, in opposition to him (Mr. Ward), what the true doctrine ought to be. This " test," as it was termed, was received with such a general outcry, that they were obliged to withdraw it, and they then substituted for it a ne gative test in the shape of a condemnation of No. 90.—(Hear.) He (Mr. Ward) had three difficulties to contend against at the present time. The first was, the way in which the matter was brought forward. Convocation would be liable to confound two questions—the one the merit or demerit of the opinions; the other the honesty or dishonesty of him (Mr. Ward) in his subscrip tion. His second difficulty was, that his line of argwrent almost necessarily implied a disrespect for the formularies oft he Chu k rch a ; t , and his third was, that, accustomed as he was a I rp l ook the formularies as being consistent with the t " thin r k that he put on them, while some who heard him interpretation inconsistent, he felt the extremkeingd"iffihgcisulety.,picainracturon. scribed as he was as to time, of fully knows+. Another difficulty with which übmeiabfielle tresbepechaLtowcoithntetnhde on this occasion was that, with all as po . body, he could not but highest respect—for the fc !unctions of a judicial tribunal. Such doubt its fitness to fulfil the . a tribunal required habits.ofisidiciaast c a a n lm io i s see tao s, ce a , nd a regular course to the case of the of training. lie need only refer , of the greatest nicety had to be recent Irish trials. There e . and the points difficulty was felt to be so great that the decided ripo , up their functions to a few highly trained and fit Peen gave up would have been the position of the case, if, in. persons. stead of this, the judges had been formed from a body of even th e moot respectable members of the Protestant Association There could be no doubt what would have been the result. It would have been impossible to keep nut of their minds the general impres sion, not that they were deciding on some nice question of law, but on a wide and large general principle. A still greater difficulty with which he had to contend was, that the very nature of his argument required a length of time for its development. Instead of his having to speak within the time to which the courtesy of the Convocation had extended his license, he would require many hours to develop fully his views. He had, however, sense time since circulated a pamphlet containing his general defence. He hoped that all those who were now assembled to judge him had read his pamphlet. But no doubt there were many who had not. Then how was he placed ? Those persons would have had no means of hearing what he had to say in his defence, and from the nature of his argument and the shortness of time, he would not be able to impress it on them at that time. After some further ob. servations on the peculiar pesitien in which he stood, Mr. Ward appealed to the members of Convocation on the injustice that would be done him by their premature decision. It was impossible that I :ParlY of them could be aware of the grounds of his defence, Lord DUNCAN rose to express his admiration of the Budget brmunht flrtvafd b the Right lob. tiafdfia, but he *Wild rt , - mind him that while he granted exemptions in the case of the auction duty, there were instances in which persons should be equally exempted from the operation of the income-tax. Mr. CURTEIS thought that the country ought to have time to exhibit its opinion on the Budget, and to show whether I'ver, rot- lir itg,alnst. tilt?: Right Hon. baronet Thee' were taking the country by surprise, by only allowing them tine post day to exhibit the feelings with which the Right Hon. Baronet's intentions would be received in the country. With respect to the property-tax, he had been one of the Commis sioners under that Act, and it was such an odious duty that he had made a to* that he should always vote against a continu ance of the tax ; and he was determined to divide the House on Monday, if supported but by twelve Hon. Members. He recommended the agricultural Gentlemen opposite to consider whether it would not be better to do away with the property or income-tax, rather than support the Right Hon. Baronet in the measure which he had that night brought forward. Mr. WARD observed that the Hun. Member who had spoken last had said that the country would be taken by stitprise. He ( Mr. W) thought it would, for certainly few had expected such a liberal measure from the Right Hon. Baronet. A measure founded on such sound principles--a measure embracing such a com prehensive view of the extended interests of this country, and intended to further its prosperity in such a degree, he did not expect and therefore he (Mr. Ward) begged to add his evi dence to those whu had gone before him, as to the beneficial effects to be derived from the propositions of the Right Hon. Baronet. With respect to the sugar-duties, a difference of opinion might be expected ; but at present they had only to look to the schemes propounded as conferring benefits on the most widely-extended interests, and as acting upon the most important springs of industry. AGLIONBY considered that the benefits which would be conferred on the country were greater than any for many years past. One point only he would beg to submit with great deference (whether to be considered now or at a future period) was the duty on tea. He had been informed that the coarser qualities paid a much higher rate of duty in proportion than was exacted for the finer kinds, and this pressed particularly heavy upon the poorer classes of the community. He hoped the subject would be considered by the Right Hon. Baronet. Sir R. PEEL expressed himself gratified with the concur rence which had been so readily granted to the propositions he had made, by Hon. Members on both sides of the House. And with respect to the observation of one Hon. Member, that the country had been taken by surprise, he (Sir R. Peel) was sure that the only part of his scheme to which any objection had been raised, viz., the income-tax, had been alluded to at the very commencement of the session, and therefore the country might have been prepared for it. He did not think that any material opposition would be given to the remainder of his propositions. Mr. ROEBUCK said that the Hon. Gentleman behind him (Mr. Curteis) might depend upon it that the income-tax would not be a- measure enacted only for three years, but that it would be permanent for the rest of his life.—( Laughter. ) Lord J. RUSSELL wished to know whether it was intended to modify the income-tax, or to renew it in its present form ? Sir R. PEEL proposed to renew the tax as it at present stood. He did not wish to enter at any length on the subject, as by so doing he would but prolong a discussion which at pre sent was better avoided. Mr. E. BULLER was not so enthusiastically fond of the Iludget as many of his Hon. Friends on that (the Liberal) side of the House appeared to be, fur he thought that the income tax would more than counterbalance the good which would be effected by the propositions of the Right Hon. Baronet. The Hod. 13ii-onet stated, in proposing the income-tax, that it should only Mist for three or five years, and now they were to renew it. There was an uncertainty now as to when it should cease, and he cautioned Hon. Members that, instead of a temporary tax, they would find it a permanent one. Let the Right lion. Baronet not deceive himself in supposing that the reduction of duty would increase the demands for the articles on which such reduction had been made, to sw•h an extent that the revenue would not suffer, for after his experi ence of 1841, could he rely on the expectation that three millions of taxes would be made up in a three years' consump tion.—( Hear.) He warned Hon. Members therefore against being deceived by the fallacious expectations held out to them by the night Hon. Baronet. Mr. WA RBURTON could not agree in the sentiment ex pressed by the Hon. Member who had just sat down. It did appear to him (Mr. Warburton) that the income-tax was one which had not been felt as an oppressive one by any parties, and that it would not be in future.—( Hear, hear.) Surely every person should understand that all those whose income existed but for one year paid the tax but for one year.—( Hear, hear, and a laugh.) And from those upon whom the tax was enforced, whose income was in perpetuity, all objection to the payment of it by that class vanished altogether.—(Laughter. ) He felt quite persuaded that any person who calmly considered this question must see that it never could have been intended to be permanent.—( Hear.) He now begged to mention what appeared to him to be a very important matter as connected with the announcement of the Right Hon. Baro net this evening. He meant with regard to the measure about to be proposed, affecting the duty on sugar. He entirely con • curred in all that had fallen from the Right Hon. Baronet. ex cept that port'on of his statement, for it appeared to him (Mr. W.) that the Right Hon. Baronet was going to give all the benefits of his proposed_ reduction on sugar to the grower, and not the consumer. As this question was to come again before the House, he would not further dwell upon it at present. Lord JOHN MANNERS spoke in favour of the Budget generally, and expressed his approval of the continuance of the income-tax in particular, as a sound and beneficial measure, fur it would press heavily only on those who could afford to pay it. With regard to what had been said by the Hon. Member opposite upon the duties of the Income-tax Com missioners, he was not now prepared to answer upon that question ; but his opinion was, that tke selection made of those officers was most judicious and highly satisfactory to the country. Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN believed that all classes of the community, agricultural as well as others, would derive material benefit from the reduction of the duty upon glass. Sir R. PEEL, in answer to a question from Sir Charles Nap'.er, in reference to the amount of the navy estimates, said that the sum required for that branch of the public ser vice would be about 960,0001., and the Gallant Officer might rest assured that it would be as judiciously and as economically applied as her Majesty's Government could suggest. Sir C. NAPIER begged to assure the Right Hon. Baronet that he did not mean to make this either a party or political question. All he looked for was that the Hon. Baronet would institute an investigation, with a view to discovering the best mode of providing the country with an efficient steam naval force.—The House then resumed. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The motion for a Committee of Supply WS3 postponed until Monday, and the House adjourned at a Quarter past Nine. THE UNEVERSITY OF OXFORD. MR. WARD'S CASE. OXFORD, THURSDAY EVENING.—The members of the University poured into Oxford this morning in vast numbers, as the hour approached for the meeting of Convocation. A great proportion of those who arrived were men distinguished in public life, and who came up purposely to be present at the Convocation. The hour at which the Convocation wres to meet had been fixed for one o'clock, and soon after that time the theatre was filled. It is calculated that there were not less than between 1,200 and 1,300 members of the University present, although not more than about 1,100 voted. Shortly after one o'clock, the Vice-Chancellor, preceded by the bedels and other officers, and followed by the heads of the University, entered the theatre, and proceeded to his seat. Mr. Ward had peviously ascended the " English " rostrum (on the left hand side of the theatre), from which he was to deliver his defence. Among the distinguished per sons who either had seats or stood on the floor in the body of the theatre, were the Earl of Romney, Lord Faversham, the Earl of Eldon, Lord Kenyon, Lord Sandon, Lord Ashley, the Bishop of Landaff, the Bishop of Chichester, Sir Thomas. Acland, the Right Hon. W. E. Gladstone, Archdeacon Man ning, the Bev. Dr. Hook, the Rev. Dr. Moberly, the Rev. Dr. Tait, the Rev. Dr. Saunders, the Rev. Dr. Hume Spry, Sir W. Heathcote, Sir John Mordaunt , Dr. Phillimore, Dr. Mere weather (the Dean of Hereford), Dr. Pusey, Dr. Buckland, Professor Jenkins, the Rev. R. Montgomery, Mr. Mackinnon, M.P., Air. 31 4 Mullen, Rev. Dr. Jenkyns, Master of Balliol; Rev. Dr. ingrain, President of Trinity ; Rev. Dr. Fox, Pro vost of Queen's ; Rev. Dr. Hawkins, Provost of Oriel ; Very Re.r. Dr. Gaisford, Dean of Christ Church ; Rev. Dr. Cramer Dean of Carlisle ; Rev. Dr. Hampden, Rev. Dr. Radford, Rector of Lincoln College ; Rev. Dr. Plumptre, Master of University ; Rev. Dr. Jelf, Canon of Christ Church ; Rev. Dr. Norris, Principal of Corpus Christi College ; Rev. Dr. Thompson, Principal of Edmund Hall ; Dr. Macbride, President of Magdalen Hall ; Dr. Marsbam, Warden of Merton C o ll ege ; R e v. Dr. Bliss, Registrar of the University Trinity P. roGuoirlle;re Rev.ard , Senior n et M.A., Fellow of O r iel College, Junior Proctor ; Dr. Daubeny, Fellow of ; College, Rev. R. ' V. Fe C ll h o u vr rcl, of i Magdalen, Professor of Chemistry, &c. ; Dr. Ogle, Trinity, Clinical Professor; Rev. Dr. Faussett, Margaret Professor of Divinity; Rev. Dr. Ellerton, Senior Fellow of Magdalen ; Rev. Dr. Bandinel, Bodlev's Librarian ; Rev. Dr. Ogilvie, Professor of Pastoral Theology; Rev. Dr. Penfeld, Mr. Henley, M.P. ; Mr. Maclean, M.P. The Rev. Mr. Oakley, of Balliol, minister of St. Margaret's Chapel, London, was in the rostrum with Mr. Ward. After some preliminary business had been disposed of, The VICE-CtiANcELumt opened the proceedings by stating the object for which the Convocation was held, and Dr. Buss read the passages of Mr. Ward's book upon which the first proposition to be submitted to Convocation depended. The following are the passages read by Dr. Bliss, and of which the first proposition to be submitted to Convocation embodied a condemnation : P. 45 (note).—" I know no single movement in the Church, ex cept Arianism in the fourth century, which seems to me so wholly destitute of all claims on our sympathy and regard as the English Rtsforreation." P. 473.—" For my own part, I think it would net be right to conceal, indeed I am anxious openly to express, my own most firm and undoubting conviction, that were we as a Church to pursue such a line of conduct as has been here sketched, in proportion as we did so we should be taught from above to discern and appre. ciate the plain marks of Divine wisdom and authority in the Roman Church, to repent in sorrow and bitterness of heart our great sin in deserting her communion, and to sue humbly at her feet for pardon and restoration." P. 68.—" That the phrase 'teaching of the Prayer-book,' con veys a definite and important meaning, I do not deny ; considering that it is mainly a selection Rom the Breviary, it is not surprising that the Prayer.boA should, on the whole, breathe an uniform, most edifying, deeply orthodox spirit—a spirit which corresponds to one particular body of doctrine, and not to its contradictory. Again, that the phrase teaching of the Articles' conveys a definite meaning, I cannot deny; for (excepting the five first, which belong to the old theology) they also breathe an uniform intelligible spirit. But then these respective spirits are not different merely, but abso lutely contradictory ; as well could a student in the heathen schools have imbibed at once the Stoic and the Epicurean philosophies, as could a humble member of our Church at the present time learn his creed both from Prayer-book and Articles. This I set out at length in two pamphlets with an appendix, which I published three years ago; and it cannot therefore be necessary to go again over the same ground, though something must be added, occasionally in notes, and more methodically in a future chap:er. The manner in which the dry wording of the Articles can be divorced from their natural spirit, and accepted by an orthodox believer; how their prima facie meaning is evaded, and the artifice of their inventors thrown back in recoil on themselves; this and the arguments which prove the honesty of this, have now been for some time before the public." P. 100 (note).—" In my pamphlets, three years since, I dis tinctly charged the Reformers with fully tolerating the absence Rom the Articles of any real anti-Roman determination, soonly I they were allowed to preserve an apparent one --a charge, which here beg as distinctly to repeat." o n Pt.be47'9e.'v;n"g(e)luicrat a be explained sarily') ; of course I think its natural meaning sense." away, for I subscribe it myself in a non - natural P. 565. "We rind, oh most joyful, most wonderful , most un expected ride e Article (observe, is ainpplaiarnticauslawr,orhdes wcoarnd make• nec e i s_ t, dually possessing " Three years have passed since I said plainly, that in e d r th e og ft w i:sor li nat is o graa l d e iy: ihniancgs cycle ht :or re o acta f thb mne ß : o d t : ra h. a,eo a , n n ddpe doctrine r jonap sokw proposition asked him oc which he h a - Lae subscribing the Articles, I renounce no one Roman doctrine." exi r ie . c s ted 67. sight! vi n e um fi b n Ur..VTARD urged in reply that he had received permission wv,E,ihnslgehltledhiesehr:lh(ad:d'ehd-liaveci7srs:n:dycislisipr:eech ? ire ak in English which Now the.total amount which you receive from the auction duty in England, Scotland, and Ireland, is about 300,000 L There is no duty, the remissi.o of which could iu my epiniou, lead to so great a reduction in the expense ;:f collecting. There is i lesys, think, which is so objectionable in principle as a duty on the transfer efprisperty. To select one par ticular mode of transferring property, quite independent of conveyances, which apply to all transfers Mt pri perty, and to subject that to duty, Is a course open to grave objections ; and 1 do hope that I have satisfied the House that although there is no demand far this reduction, and although articles might be selected upen which a reduction would be more popular, yet looking comprehensively at the interests of property, and considering the benefit which is conferred on a great commercial and nettsufactitring country, by facilitating the transfer of property, you could not confer a gra rater advantage upon the United King dom, if you selected other duties in preference to that which is thus proposed to be reduced to the amount of 300,0001.—(hear, hear.) Every auctioneer is, under the existing law, compelled to take out a licence. In the first instance he takes out a general licence of 5/. If be is afterwards called on to sell any par ticular article which is not included in that licence there is then a demand made upon him for another licence of 51.; and, consequently, there are auctioneers who pay 251 for licences, because some articles are expeSed to sale by auction, where they have to officiate as auctioneers, which are not covered by the general auction duty. Now I propose, instead of the principle of requiring separate licences, to enable auctioneers to dispose of every description of property by taking out one licence. I propose to fix the amount of that license at 15/. ; thus enabling the auctioneers who take it out to deal in every description of property. I think it is probable that the number of auctioneers will be increased by the reduction of the duty. The present number of auction eers amount in the whole, I think, to about 4,000. A li cence duty of 151. will raise a revenue of 60,0001., subject, of course, to the reduction in the present auction duty. I do not believe that one general licence of 15/. would be .felt at all as an onerous impost, w hile I think it probable that the number of auctioneers would increase. We propose, therefore, to reduce the duty upon auctions,- and to substitute for the present system'of licensing one uni form licence, the maximum cost of which will` be . 151 With • respect to the article of glass, I must say' that it is one which has especially occupied my attention. The du;y upon glass has been dotibled since 'lBl5, - and I think I can show, with respect to this amide, there a - re grounds or exemp tion more than can be alleged for almost any - other article. Without regard to the esti,• which' might-make "out for the removal of this tax, if there were an abundant revenue, -- there are no other articles entitled to a preference. In the first place, let me recite some of the objections to this charge. The amount of tax is 2001. or 300/ per cent. upon the value of the article ; for instance, the tax was one shilling per foot, and a manufacturer was asked what, he could supply the articles for, if the duty were taken off ; and he answered, that he could sell it for 3d., or at any rate the price would not exceed 4d.—(Hear, hear.) We must not estimate this burden at the mere asnount.—(llear, hear.) There is no duty which requires, in order that it may be levied, such a system of perpetual and such vexatious superintendence. — (Hear, hear, hear.) Now, con - pare the expert of glass, which was subject to this vexatious, and necessarilly vexatious regulations—compare it with the export of an other article, which has the good fortune to be ex- - cepted—earthunware. The export ofearthenware last year amounted to 750,000/., whereas the export of glass. which was subject. to the duty, and subject to this constant interference with the process of manufacture, amounted only in the course of the last your to 388,0001.—.(Hear, hear.) But I wish to state also another most important fact. There is no Excise duty on the manufacture of glass in France, in Belgium, or in Bohemia ; and in Bohemia the manufacture of glass is brought to the very highest perfection. The discoveries of chemistry were applied without restric tion to the improvement of the manufacture,' and owing to the skill to which they had attained, the mast beautiful colours were produced. We have particular facilities in this country for the manufacture of glass ; we have a great command of labour and of coal, and we should be able net only to enter into compe tition with foreign countries, but we should be able to beat them. What is the fact? That there being now no duty on glass in Belgium, Bohemia, and France,. there is no necessity fur interfering with the process of manufacture. What has taken place in this country ? A great import of foreign glass into the, bonded warehouses of this country, and that foreign glass thus brought into bonded warehouies is afterwards exported being liable to no duty, and after all this the ex porters beat us, not only in foreign countries, but even in our own colonies. I think I can make out a case without referring to details. But really theseare most important questions. It is curious to observe the pro gress—the gradual increase of the export of foreign glass over the export of our domestic manufacture. For the last seven quarters I have closely observed the glass manufacture and the gradual increase of foreign glass brought into bonded warehouses, and afterwards exported from this country, as compared with glass the produce of our own industry. Is it not a strong fact, , and does it not demonstrate the pelicy of si ime ne w arrangement in the excise regulations of this country ? (lean) If we permit this article to be manufactured duty free, it is very hard to foresee to what perfection the manufacture of that beautiful fabric may be brought, considering how much it admitted of the applica tion of capital and skill. - When a balance-spring for a chronometer. is -.made _ in this country it is made of glass, • .at . least of late years, it being fOun 1 so much superior to steel for such purposes. It has a gra aver power of resisting the alternations 01 heat and cold, and maintaining its specific gravity. The manufacture of glass requires so much skill on the part of the workman, that I do not believe under the present system •f restriction recent discoveries could be well applied. A chronometer, with a glass balmier-spring, during the late Administration, had been sent out to the North Seas, and exposed with nine other chronometers to the cold of that climate, and the result of that experiment wws reported to be in favour of the chronometer which had the glass balance-spring as compared with the nine others. So much for the application of -glass to articles of the utmost delicacy. lint glass has also been applied to another and very different purpose. It has been manufactured into pipes used for the conveyance of water, at a cost of 30 per • cent. less than .pipes made of iron ; they will bear great external pressure ; they are covered with bitumen, and when used for the conveyance of water, so far as purposes of health are concerned, glass pipes are entitled to- the preference. This has been done where the excise duties on glass have been removed. Now take all the articles thus ranged between these • two extremes, between the balance-spring of the chronometer and- -the pipe for conveying water, and I ask if it is not difficult to say . to what purposes the manufacture may not be applied ? But now we collect our duty on flint glass at an expense of not less than 57 per cent. on the whole amount col- . lected, and it is necessary, in order to prevent fraud, to have' a series of most minute regulations with respect to melting the glass and the annealing, with notices to the excise-officer of every process which make the application . of ingenuity and skill almost impossible. But relieve it altogether from these difficulties, as in Bohemia,' France and Belgium, give full and unrestricted play to the capital and enterprise of ' this country, and with its peculiar facility for obtaining materials, its command of alkali and of coal, I believe that this country may supply almost all the world with glass, or at least enter into active competi tion with' other countries for supplying it. There are many other arguments I might bring forward, but I do think I have shown, in the case of glass, so far as the manufacture of glass is concerned, that there are peculiar reasons for reducing the duty on it. Now a case has been made out for the remission of the window-duty. But take the case of glass, and see what a touch greater effect the reduction of the duty on glass will have on 'the comfort of the labouring classes titan a reduction of the window-duty. It is estimated that in Great Britain there are 3,500,000 houses : of these not more than 500,000 -are charged with the window-duty therefore, there are 3,000,000 of houses which require glass to be used in them, and which, by the removal of the tax, would benefit by the whole amount of the remission. I am afraid I am wearying the House by these details, but I wish to satisfy these who hear me that these remissions are not made from any desire of courting popularity, but that there is good and substantial cause which leads me to adopt the reduction of this duty.—(lmmense cheerima) Then, if we look to the improvement of art, what a greatencouragement it will give to the art of engraving if We reduce the duty on plate glass. Then, if we look to the consideration of health, of what immense import ance is the article ofglass. Nothing prevented the passage of heat like glass. Tho passage of heat through a single plate of glass, compared,_ with its passage thfough two yet many were prepared to say. "placer," or l% the case might be. Mr. Ward concluded in the fof/0 —" And lastly, for the sake of the Church of Englan, sake of that Church of which we are joint members, Lbeseeen you to pause before you affirm the proposition before you ; .it .may AA am possibly have an effect far greater than you imagine in accelerating "."`"• a crisis that may end in the premature dissolution of the present fabric of the English Church. It may seem strange in me, who may be considered myself to have contributed so much in the same direction by the work I have published, to claim at the hands of others that caution and temperance which they may think I have been very far from showing myself. And yet, if my book be really read through, and not judged by a few one-sided extracts, you will find nothing in it at all inconsistent, but rather the very re verse, with the appeal I am now making. A paper put out by a parochial minister in this town has painted in vivid colours the evil and the distress which must be caused by any reckless com pulsion, on men who are unprepared for it, to choose their side. I believe that experience will show that he has under-stated, not over-stated. the amount of the evil. I believe very few of you realise the perplexity, the distress of mind, which would be felt by members of opinions much different from my own, if those who are now urging on their measures of exclusion should succeed in their attempts, and whether the balance of parties which now exists, should compelevery one to take his side with the dffeated or the victorious, the seceding or the established party. Nothing can be a greater misconception of the general drift of ray work than to consider It as having any legitimate tendency at all parallel to this. So far have I been from urging the sudden and premature adoption of those opinions which I myself must fully hold, I have been even clamorous in urging on the consciences of my brethren that it would be a plain sin in them were they to attempt to - do so, A steady and regular growth in belief naturally be accompanied by a steady and regular progress towards true opinions; but the attempt to leap as it were at one bound from error to truth will, I am sure, in the present state of men's minds, precipitate not a few in the gulf of hopeless scepticism. 1 ask you to let our present framework remain, as far as in you 'lies, that under its pro. tection numbers of humble arid dutiful souls, who are quite unable to choose for themselves a side, and shrink appalled from the strife, of words now raging among us, may gradually develop into that which they cannot suddenly become—deeply -rooted believers in the whole truth. I protest that if I thought, as most of you think, that there my ultra and Roman opinions were wrong, I should think I could not do them a greater service than by measure. of punishment on him who holds them. Such measures give momen tary strength even to a weak cause, and an ephemeral popularity to a naturally unpopular party. It is because I believe from my heart that the opinions I have humbly advocated are the very truths of the Gospel, that I believe they will grow and increase among us, if they be allowed fair play ; do you show equal confidence in the truth of your views ? I wish nothing better; it is the one thing I have urged throughout my work, that faithful servants of God should cease from this disastrous civil war, and turn their united weapons against the common enemy. Let ' Evangelicals' and ' High Churchmen,' each according to his mariner and opportuni ties, carry out their principles in promoting their own holiness, and waging implacable war against worldliness and covetous ness, and self-seeking, and heathenish ignorance. Depend upon it, in proportion as they do so will they find them selves in a wonderful manner approaching to union with each other and with the truth. I gladly stake the truth of my own opinions on the issue of this experiment. Why will you shrink from so staking the truth of yours ? Will you say it has ever been the maxim of the church to exclude heretics from her pale and rule, where an unity, otherwise deep and universal, is disturbed by the intrusion of one heretical party. But is that the case with us ? If Evangelicals could hope to exclude from the Church of England all whom they believe strangers to the Gospel; or if ' High Churchmen' could hope to exclude those who deny our baptismal regeneration, as well as those who denounce the English Re formation, the case might be different. Nothing, indeed, is more probable than that the fabric of the English Church may fall to pieces if you begin taking out only a single stone; but a fabric, large in extent, and yet homogeneous, in its composition it will nor be one, or any thing in the least like it, merely because you succeed in dislodging one among its innumerable discordant materials ; and I do implore you then to consider well what you do when you take this first step, which may lead to so disastrous an issue. Let your decision, at least, be the result, not of party and excited feeling, but of calm, and solem deliberation." Mr. Want) then handed in a Latin protest. Dr. GRANT, of New College, then rose o propose this amendment -- " That the passages now read from the book entitled " The Ideal of a Christian Church Considered" are worthy of grave cen sure, but that Convocation declines to express any opinion upon the good faith of the author, or to exercise the functions of an ecclesiastical tribunal, by pronouncing judgment on the nature or degree of his offence." The VICE-CHANCELLOR informed Dr. Grant that no pro position could be made that had not been previously agreed on by himself and the Hebdomadal Board. Mr. DENISON enterest his protest against the whole pro ceedings, and Mr. BODE, of Christ Church, entered a protest against them, as affecting the right and propriety of the proceedings. The VICE-CHANCELLOR put the question, when there was a roar and counter-roar of Placets and Nort-placets. A scrutiny was then ordered. Tke numbers turned out after- wards to be—for the proposition, 777 ; against it, 588. It was therefore declared against Mr. Ward. The VICE-CHANCELLOR announced the result, saying " Majori parti placet." The VICE-CHANCELLOR then proposed the second proposi tion—that for the degradation of Mr. Ward. Mr. WARD again addressed the Convocation, also in English. He said,—l have only to say, with respect to this particular mode of punishment, that for myself, whatever others may think of my opinions, I have shown by my acts and my words that I am most anxious, most desirous, and most ready—l may say, most eagerly desirous and ready, to devote all my energies, such as they may be. and whatever powers of mind or action I may possess, to the ser vice of the Church of England, if I may be allowed. It must at the same time be remembered that certain persona, not holding the opinions I hold, have renounced orders and left the Church and have entered into communion with the Church of Rome, and yet have kept their degrees of B.A. and MA. Therefore it does ap pear that the proposed proceeding towards me, who have not re nounced the Church of England, but am ready to serve it, is busts when compared with what has been done with them. At the same time, I must ever be thankful for the opportunity afforded me of doing justice to my character and opinions before so many members of a Church towards which I do feel the deepest attachment. VICE-CIIANCELLOIt then put it to the vote as before with the same result. The Rev. N. Et.usos, of Balliol College, addressed the as sembly in Latin, in opposition to the motion. A scrutiny was then taken, after which the Vice-Chancellor declared that the proposition had been affirmed. The numbers turned out to be—Placets, 569 ; Non- Placets, 511. _ _ _ The 7. 10 E-CHANCELLOR then proposed the third proposi tion, for the condemnation of Tract 90. The Senior Proctor rose and said—"Nobis Procuratoribus non placet," upon which there was a storm of counter-cheer ing and hissing for some minutes. The proceedings then terminated. Mr. Ward's speech occupied somewhat more than an hour. Ile spoke with remarkable rapidity, but at the same time with great calmness and self-possession—with the air of a man, in fact, who felt a deep conviction that he was right. As he left the theatre he was cheered by the sndergraduates outside. The Vice-Chancellor was saluted most indecorously with hisses from the same source. The decision against Mr. IN - ard on the second proposition could scarcely be said to have been expected. Towards the opening of Ciivrocation, however, the opinion began to gain ground that Mr. Ward would be defeated. It should he stated, that the Fellows of Balliol voted unanimously in favour of Mr. Ward on both propositions. The following address to the Proctors is in circulation, and has been signed by nearly 300 names, among which are Mr. Gladstone's, Judge Coleridge's, Dr. hook's, Archdeacon Manning's, Sir W. lleathcote's, &e. "TO TUE SZTEREND THE PROCTORS. " We, the undersigned members of Convocation, understanding( that you have resolved to put your negative upon the proposal re lating to the Ninetieth Tract, in Convocation, on Thursday, the 13th inst., beg leave to tender to you our cordial thanks for a de terminatiou which we consider to have been clemanded by the principles of our academical constitution." 4 3 Lt*/ -y 4xd--01kNk 1 . 1. :- 7 kreo: • - '-'.9-Ne:) 'rt " - el - 14i 1 Aek ii. t - 114, 14 ,, Atert/ Iglgn 4Wi' :23F: iir • ers, 1 LLOYD'S SHIPPING. LONDON, FEB. 14.—Wind N.W., fresh breeze and fine clear weather, with a brisk thaw. LIVERPOOL, FEB. 13.—Wind S., moderate.—Arrd. Fisher, Shedding, and Isabella Harnett, Newby, Calcutta ; Caroline, and Guard, Ichaboe ' • Globe, and Chilian, Callao (Nov. 3) - Annabella, Cleland, Rio; Bonainza, Young, Bahia; Frisk, Smith, Mexico ; Prince Royal, Bonny ; Britannia, M'Donald, Brass River; Arethusa, Manny, Popo ; Cato, Devonshire, Ilaidee Metoka, Splendid, and Tameirend, New Orleans; Empire and Republic, Mobile ; Tawluita, Apalochicola ; John Canning, Oromoete, and Sterling, Savannah ; Othello, Char leston ; Queen of the West, Woodhouse, New York ; Cam bria steamer, Judkins, Boston, left Ist inst.; Frederick, Jane Hammond, and Odessa, St. John's, New Brunswick , Off, Hope, New Orleans. The two steam-tugs ashore on Mud Wharf, have come off without much damage. The Bolivar, hence to Bombay, has put back, and is in port. The William Henry, Thompson, hence to Campeachy, was aban doned, 28th STovember, off the Coast of Mexico; mate and three men arrived at Manglito. The Lord Seaton, hence to St. Andrew's, was wrecked in Penobscot Bay, prior to Jan. 20 crew drowned. The Pollock, hence to New Orleans, was wrecked on the Chandlier Islands 16th ult., master and six men ar rived at New Orleans; the others supposed to have landed on the islands. The Lord Wenlock, bound to this port, put back to New Orleans, on the 17th ult., leaky. The Emily, from St. John's, New Brunswick to Liverpool, put into Ber muda Dec. 31, leaky. The Glengariffe, Church, from Vera Cruz to Laguna, was wrecked, Nov. 14, in a heavy norther, ear Goasacualco ; mate. and five men saved, remainder sup posed to be drowned. The Cohassett, of Boston, was driven ashore at Buceo, in the river Plate, during a heavy gale, which continued from the 24th to the 26th of November. The Alert, Mackay, ashore at Halifax, United States, has been got off and into Dartmouth, United States. The Emerald Isle steamer was blocked in by the ice, in Schvelling Bay, when the Ocean steamer, in the River, left. P i D he St EAST INDIA SHIPPING off Falmouth, Helena Di,c. 27 , r n h g a a n i ;. Dickson, from Arrivals—Poictiers, Danny, from Bengal, sailed Sept. 15, Cape Dec. ; Earl Wight, sailed Nov. - M`Leod, Cooper, from Mauritius, off Madras, off Portsmouth, sailed Oct. Webster, frum Madras, off Portland, 14 ; Lady Feversham, sailed Oct 3, St. Helena Dec. 18. A rr ivals in Table B ay, Cape of Good Hope—Helen, Pott er , Dec. 18, from , lelighoe ; Marquis of I.orn. Murr a y, f rom London ; Skipto n, 19th, fromlchaboe ; George Henry liar ri,on, from It nysna ; Georgiana, from Ichab o e ; Henrsr Thompson, from whaling , Pacitic , 20 th, from the South S eas ; Loire (11. F. M. S.) from Rio ; Emma, NiThite, from Cal cutta ; Emma, Hartley, 21st, from Bombay ; Belle Creole Purchase, from Mauritius; Thomas Jones, Ha • milton, from Holland's Island; John Bartlett, from Ichaboe. Arrival in Simon's Bay II drabad, Robertson, Dec. 19, from London to Ilobart 'Town. Departures from Table Bay - -Exeter, Dec. 17, Emerald, 17th, Sirius, 18th, I saac , 19 t h , all to Ichaboe ; Chanticleer, to Algoa Bay. Arrival in Algoa Bay—lndus, Cragg, Dec. 12, from De lagoa Bay. Departures from Algoa Bay—Ann, Caithness, Dec. 12, to Mauritius. Arrival at Samarang—Recoverv, Dec. 22. from Hong Kong. Departures from Batavia—Franklin, Oct. 16, to Sourabaya ; Pilot, 20th, to China ; Meg Merrilies, 29th, to Manilla ; Globe, 31, to Bordeaux ; George, Rejan. Nov. 1, to China. COMPETING LINES TO YORK.—We understand the Direct Northern from London to York here lodged the necessary deposit of 142,6101., preparatory to presenting their petition to Parliament. 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