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tee had been put and to rescind th4t ord.t is operation. If it did that in case the reso y into the income -10 tension of the tax he had taken in the lu the House decidivi had put down on the "; and these were tie brought forward sok, income- tax in l84;• 1 e Hon. Member fd his list, asked hits rhich was done -0 all, only at his ( 50 (Mr. Hume) t bell Member for Ripp e ' linfttre with Weed frustration, but tbil 0. He (Mr. Hung) the Excht quer, ex' . 13 . Mr. Carda tll,ssd I Members if tbel commended by t he ut on, w i t h the es. Hon. Member coo' the onus of the taSt' his motion. motion on a fortoer 3 e }ear, on the che' ttee shoutcl be or nof that tax. ... nendment.. fle the Isuded inttrest bough he advoided tier !ban last week. r, however, to the eing on the Cosi. s e e why the Lion. pl ace d upon it, er , nding the incase: fore, recommendeu !spend for the P re ' umm i tt e e ,,with the ed against its COr the Hon. geotber I," not i c e of bio e carried a re e' u ged. Tba Llotaer rig to a decisionos Gentleman Would a the first i sotssa Inbar for tbe est i of the tax, if b e House would ale° id the lion. geol. )thsilion or sgai lss ry the wheel:light berg who were la Dn der, then, tbeo latter. Alter tbe 'g, he stated tbet to an inquiry bi Committee s , e f hie constit ee• Souse. C on/ 001 Id be r eceiv ed it subject. be Os' )01nrattteo, t° derail!) had Doi fi rst plane , ate llnet and 004 4_note canopied,e t tee would not of. Then ‘bell eh he should dr !hanoellor of the de "Fleenor of ee of that kin , be of his 0000 M em b ers , so to of the Woe right to be 01. Illes‘lf in C ol d h remained , 10 1 rose did proeo: I come to 0011 : Members, fie ative to the ad been tol d," fraudulent . Do 5 Hon. Mei ad taken. Tra , Toble Lord in the wet for n. Member ;s own wick e d she Hon. M would prese l3 3 d not comn3s l3 l °fore be 0311. Alone bad We ll Dm p f° reboot .we o f *Strafe the etnbarre r ying with £ OO al supporter° . ,rose bad taken are of the O s I not to mak e qual. _Thera was, that tb i e with great Au' d never permit ,ee 01 In q uiry' , He conic! 1 3 ° 1 security well manumit tax• of the Hons. redit by with, ial position of ainly did 1 301 manent. r the original notion of the [ght. because which it WO opposite who tuition .which nd public, to forward his that a Coto: 'er expected as the coe d a majority iestion. ration. The. that woul d ed to let the t the House the Boos sioo on the believe that nd'bohafidg arrived at. ?n the pro t could nittee. A as it was, be did not at it with necessities other 'sly On the the motion, possible to rote in the would votl -- 99 [nation of ne Friday'. le Eceleig- Friday ? rom Bill on n account itkl to ly Is/ ciples .te OA ,t the of its re no II r•. . _ tarred to the preamble, so that the preamble was so 1r sated as to ley a Ft...per fouteia.ion tor it. Vti lieu they name to the pr,ambic he should press on Government the propriety of considerably altering the preamb e which was introduced, not with reference to the de claratory clause, but to previsions with which that clause had no connexion. Two thiegs were essential; first, that the measure he framed in such a manner as to prevent future legislation. Toey haf declared the Papal brief of 1850 illegal a - nd void; the necessary consequence of that was, that the House ought ulso to prohibit oy the . Bill any brief fur the same purpose coming into the conn try, which would occasion a similar amount of excite ment. He might 'say in the second clause of the Bill it might be necessary to introduce a special proviso sub jecting persons bringing Papal briefs into this country to a penalty. He would state before he came to the end of his observations the exact words he proposed to intro duce in the' second clause. The third point which he thought essential to the proper - working of the Bill was, that if they passed a law of this kind care should be taken that it be enforced,- and should not be allowed to slumber on the statute-book.—(Hear, hear.) He would rather have no Bill at all than a law which it was not intended to enforce. Either the measure was just or unjust. If unjust, it ought not to be passed into a la w; but if just, then it behoved them to take care that it should not be passed with the intention of not being en forced.—(Hear.) That raised the question as to how the law was to be enforced. The Government proposed that to the Attorney-General alone should be left the power to prosecute for the penalty. He had suggested that any indivi rust should be at liberty to do so. He thought both courses open to objection. The Govern ment plan was clearly open to objection, because by it the country would have nu guarantee that this measure would be enforced any more than the Act of 1829. Oa the other hand, he could not but feel that leaving to any body the right of prosecution might make the measure an instrument of oppression and persecution. They all knew that there were persons who were warm partisans —enthusiastic individuals with more zeal than discre tion, who might be induced to prosecute under the Bill if they had the power to do so, but who would bring to that prosecution their own imperfect intelligent- and in sufficient grounds, and thus defeat the object of the mea sure. If that were so, two great difficulties bad to be dealt with. In the first place, they were all agreed that the principle upon which to proceed was that the law should be - enforced. but that in enforcing it it should not be made either vexatious or oppressive. He thought the suggestion of the Hon. and Learned Member for Abingdon would meet this objection. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman proposed that the Crown as well as the subject should be able to prosecute for the penalty. The effect of that would be that the Crown as well as the subjeet will both of them have the power as well as the interest to see that the law was properly enforced. If the Attorney-General should slumber at his post— he did not think his Honourable and Learned Friend would be liable to that imputation—by giving to the subject the right to prosecute, and by imposing on the Attorney-General the necessity of putting a veto on the proceedings in case he did not think the prosecution advisable—the Attorney- General would be prevented becoming remiss or negligent when the Bill became law. 5,), on the other hand, by giving to the Crown the right of vetoing a prosecution by an individual, care was taken as far as possible by lrgisla tion to provide against the possibility of any oppressive or vexatious enforcement of the law.—(Hear.) He be lieved he had explained the greater portion of the amendments he had given notice of, with the exception Of one to which the Noble Lord opposite alluded at the conclusion of the debate on Friday. The Noble Lord bad then asked him what he meant to do with regard, to cumulative penalties. He did not think there were any cumulative penalties in the amendments. A power was proposed to be given to the Crown of deporting a person fur the second offence. Now there were great difficulties—he might say there was great imprudence— in any individual proposing such an amendment as that, if the Government—with whom rested the responsibility of seeing that the laws were properly observed and en forced—should think such an amendment not necessary for the enforcing of a law like this. Considering, there , fore, that the responsibility was with the Government— considering it was better to prevent, if possible, the re petition of similar encroachments by mild rather than by severe and oppressive punishments—and considering also that some credit ought to be given to Roman Catholics, that if the Bill passed they did not intend to disobey it, he had, speaking for himself alone, come to the conclusion that he ought not to press the deportation clause. Of the three points, therefore, of which he had given notice, only one was now before them. The • House having declared the brief illegal, ought to pro hibit the introduction of like briefs under penalties simi lar to those that were imposed fur the assumption of ecclesiastical titles. He, therefore, proposed to insert. after the words "any person," the following words: " who shall hereafter obtain or cause to be procured from the See of the Bishop of Rome, or shall publish or put in issue, any brief, rescript, letters apostolical, or other instrument or writing, for the purpose of constitut ing within the kingdom of Evgland a hierarchy of bishops named from sees, and with titles derived from places, be longing to the Crown of England."—(Hear.) Then fol lowed words which would subject him to the same penal ties as if he had assumed ecclesiastical titles. The question having been put, Mr. ROCHE thought the amendment so important that it aught to be printed before being discussed Mr. WALPOLE said it was nearly the same as the • amendment on the votes. The only cllff-rence was that the words "United Kingdom" were omitted with refe rence to .publication ; and instead of "for the purpose s aforesaid," he had made a recital of them, in order to make the clause intelligible. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL gave the Hon. and Learned Member fur Mtdhurst credit for wishing to make the Bill as perfect as possible; bur, nevertheless, thought the clause he had just proposed open to very great objection. In fact, it would have the effect of mak ing the penalties cumulative. Cribs Hoe. end Learned Gentleman here proceeded to read the amendaients as they stood on the paper, when Mr. Walpole intimated that he gave up the third amendment.) He (the Attor ney-General) should confine his remarks to the second, which the Committee, he thought, would see involved cumulative, penalties. I: provided that if any person should publish, or put its use, &c., any brief such as that referred to in the preamble and iu the first clause, he should be liable in a penalty of 1001. But, let it be ob served, that if a Roman Catholic ecclesiastic should have received from Rome a brief or rescript appointing him bishop of some diocese, with territorial title, b e would be Hanle to a twofold penalty under this provision in the second clause, because be would be liable if he accepted the brief, and he would be liable if he assumed the title. The title could not be assumed except by virtue of a rescript of the Pope, and the real offince, and that against which the Bill was di rected, was the assumption of the title. By the amend ment, therefore, it was proposed to split one transaction into two, and to inflict for that which was but one of fence, two penalties. It was, theretore, cumulative in its character. If the person who procured the brief was a different person from the person who assumed the title, then it might be said that there was a different offence. If the diocese was once constituted the rescript might be supposed to have been issued by the Pope for the pur pose of appointing a bishop, and the parties would be liable under the provision in the second clause. The Attorney-General in framing an information under this Bill against the assumption of title under rescript from Rome, would state both points, and all the parties would be liable to the penalty. He apprehended that that was not what the Committee desired. Let the law be well known, and he thought it would prevent a repetition of the aggression. Mr. S. WORTLEY said that knowing the overwhelm ing opinion of the House in favour of legislation on this subject, he bad thought ti at he would best befriend the measure by leavi' git in their hands. It was because be wished to e the Bin Efficient that he should support the amendment of the Hon. Member fir Midhurst. He did not think was any gr aad for the objection of the Attorney General. Indeed, he thought as far as he had heard the Hon. and Leaned Gentleman, that he had shown, net that the penalty was cumulative, but that there might be two offences with the penalty attaching to eaoh. The procuring a rescript and the assumption of titles were different offences. So if a person having as sumed a title should follow it up by issuing a pastoral letter, that would be a separate offence. - .Mr. ROCHE thought the disagreement of opinion among those learned in the law showed the necessity of having the amendment printed and considered before being called on to agree to it. He gave the Hon. and Learned 3.letsber for Midhurst credit for wishing to make a bed Bill worse. He had no wish to throw obstacles in t h e way of the Bill, but felt it his duty to move that the amendment he postponed. The CHAIRMAN said it was not competent for the e p o o d Hon. and Learned Member to make such a motion. BE IM bad always understood that dt.he consider ation of any .' amendment might be postponed. The CHAIRMAN said if the Member who propos e d an amendment thought proper to consent to the post ponement of it, then it might be postponed ; but be never knew an amendment postponed merely on the motion of another Hon. Member. Mr. MOORE urged postponement. The lawyers were in doubt, and at variance in their opinions. 'e .he first clause was surrounded with difficulties, and the House bad passed it without knowing what it meant. He begged to move that the Chairman report progress. Sir R. INGLIS thought the discusston which had arisen on the amendment bad proceeded entirely o n a misconception. It had been assume f that the Ho our able and . Learned Member for Midhurst had a d ded something to the amendment of which be had g iven notice, while the only alteration he had ma de was the omission of a portion of it. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman did not propose to take the sense of the Com mittee on anything which they had nut had deliberately before them. Sir F. THESIGER trusted the Hon. Member for Mayo would not press his amendment for reporting pro gress, because it appeared to him that the Irish Members. —if he might be pardoned the expression .ought to be the last persona to resist the alteration proposed, for the amendment pointed merely to the kingdom of England: From the first the Government bad declared their inten tion to extend the Bill to Ireland, and to have the law uniform. He had ventured to propose an amendment, extending the Bill to all rescripta, similar to that of the 29th September; but had given way, in the belief that the suggestion of. the Hon. and Learned Member fir Midhurst would effect the object be bead in view. He had, however, reserved to himself the right of pro posing the amendments in the report in case the Hon. and Learned Member for Miohurst should not be successful. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman, by restricting his amendment to E (gland, bad so oh tnge I l the character of it , t h at though appi o v e d o f it a s ar a s it went, he must f.ll hack on his right to pop /se his own amendment on the bringing up of the report. Mr. MOORE said the Irish Members had no wish to obstruct the Bill. They wished to understand that .:: J J 94 193 T TUE- which? he did not think the English Mernb-rs—if he might be pardoned Vie expression—(A laugh)—cared much ab !tit utoierstanling.—(A laugh.) ' f: rent statements they had heard, he was net sore that the Solicitor Geheral would not get up and tell them that th- , aurndinent had quite smother meaning than that which had neti given to it. As he did not Wish to obstruct the progress of the rn-asure, be should cith draw hi, in.tion for r-porcing prneress. Mr. T. NI‘C.ULLAGiI said,- wh,n they were dissuss ' ing a law applicable to Efigl - and, and the. principle of . Which might be extended to Ireland. it behoved them to know exactly the posi , ion in whieh • they sto He would ask the Chairman whether the amendment was ap plicable to the United Kingdom or England only ? The CHAIRMAN read the terms of the amendment, by which it appeared to be applicable to Fagland only. Mr. T. MCULLAGR said he wanted to know, when the Hon. and Learned Member for Mid'nurst proposed. passing a law affecting the kingdom of England, whe ther he meant to carry out that enactment iu that king dom alone? If ao, he would have to add many other clauses to the Bill. Colonel RAWDON asked the Chain:inn whether a clause which was without he scope of the title of a Bill could be introduced in Committee ? The CHAIRMAN,was understood to say that the present clause was within its scope. Mr. W A.LPOLE said there were two important questions to be considered in the present legislation. What they had to meet was an encroachment upon the prerogative of the Crown in one place, and the assump tion of certain titles in other parrs of the kingdom Tne sole object which he had iu view was to meet those evils; and he did not intend it should extend beyond the specific off noes it was calculated to meet—namely, the constitution of a R .man Catholic hierarchy in Eagland. Having read his clauses, the Hon. and L. arned Member conclud.d by observing that his preamble, his declaratory and his enacting clauses, were all trained so as to follow each other harmoniously. Mr. 1 11`CULLAGEI still complained that they were legislating without understanding or knowing what they were doing. The AT f ORNEY-GENERAL said, after his Hon. and Learned Friend had said he would withdraw his first and last clause, they could not know what he meant ; and he thought his Hon. Friend was, involving them in greater difficulties and inconsistencies every step he took.—(Gear, hear.) Sir F. THESIGER thought the .difficulties of the judges in Ireland, if any case came before them for decision, would be increased by his Hon.: and Learned Friend's proposition.. Mr. TRELA WNY said he thought the law should be the same in both countries on that subject, as well as every other. Mr. WALPOLE repeated what he had bef ire said, ,with respect to the t.vo points to which he confined his clauie—the encroachment on the prerogative of the Crown, and the asbumption of cccleamtical titles in an) part of the kingdom. LordJ.RUS:iELL did not think the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had got rid of the objections made to bii clause. What the lion. Member did propose about making en assumption of a title an off nce here, did make a difference between En4land and Ireland. Far his own part, his own objection to the clause was of a general nature. It was not framed in accordance , with the"spirit of the Act of 1829, beyond which the Govern ment did not wish to go. tie would therefore oppose that clause, and every amendment of a similar kind which went to extend the penalties under the Aet. After a few words in explanation from Mr. WAL POLE, Mr. NAPIER suggested to his Hon. and Learned Friend not to press bis amendment; as if ever there Was a time when it was necessary to have uniformity f prac tice, it was when they were engaged in legislating on a great constitutional principle. Mr. STANFORD said the /lon. and Learned Member for Midharst had conducted himself all through that discussion with so much moderation, discretion, and judgment, that though differing in religious belit-f from many Hon. Members around him, he had never heard one of them impugn that Hon. and Learned Member's character or conduct.—(Hear, hear) He confessed he had not been able distinctly to understand some of the paints involved in the particular questions under discus sion; and he thought the Hon. Member for Athlone ant other Hon. Members who thought with him had a per fect right to demand a full explanation from the aivern ment of that system which they proposed carrying out for the satisfaction of the Protestant people of this coun try. He was opposed to Popish ascendancy, but had a kindly feeling towards his Roman Catholic fellow-sub jects,.and he could say that they never should have an ascend .ncy of any kind, Pepisti or Protestant, in this country, which was not f eluded on sound reason and ar gument. He had listened with great attention to all the speeches which had been delivered in the course of that debate particularly those of the law officers of the Crown. All parties had agreed that there was no- intention in pursuing that legislation to interfere with the free action of the religion of their Roman Catholic fellow-subjects; and he did sincerely believe that there was not an Hon. Member on his side of the House who would not join in that sentimtnt. But in legislating upon that suttjci they had many and serious matters to take into consi deration. They h)d to consider, as he' had done, the statute of Richard 11., and the 13th of Elizabeth, and 10th Geo. IV., cap. 27. And having given all these various Acts full coosideretiun e abey should weigh how far the present position of the Roman Catholics was (e -rected by the existing law, and how far it might be af t ected by the proposed Bill.—(Rear, hear.) By the 9th and 10.12 Vice, these missives of the Pope were and we did not therefore require auy new legislation to declare that they were so. What had offended this country was the assumption of titles and the parcelling out of the kingdom into dioceses; and the Master of the Rolls had stated that that could not be prevented excel) , by recurring to obsolete statutes; so that there appeared to be no passibility of wetting this case except by the enactment of a fresh law.—(Hear, hear.) If Hon. Member s were prepared to follow the honest and open line of policy which the country expected from them. then they would adopt the clause proposed by the Hon. and Learned Member for Midhursi ( Ur. Walpole). But he could assure them that no sinistrous course—however dexterous it might be—(Laughter)—would give satisfac tion to the public. He (Mr. Stanford) should support amendmithe Sir R. H. INGLIS objected to the amendment, as creating a distinction between England and Ireland, and recommended Mr. Walpole to withdraw it, and reserve to himself the power of framing some other clause not open to the exception which was applicable to this. Mr. W ALPOLE said that, feeling his Hon. Friend:. on that side of the !louse did not wish him to press the clause, he was unwilling to do that which would be con trary to their better juifgment. He hoped, however, if he did not put the Committee to the trouble of a division, that neither the Government nor the country would find —as he feared they might hereafter find—another brief coming into the country, and even themselves placed iu a mor e awkward position than they were then now. Mr. HORSIMAN commended the consistency of the course which had been pursued by Mr. Walpole through out. His Hon. and Learned Friend's clause had been found fault with because it drew a distinction between England and Ireland. But tbat which was urged as an objection to the amendment constituted in his (Mr. foreman's) eyes its chief recommendation; for nothing could be more absurd, in legislating upon a question o► this kind, than to say that the same principle should apply to both count:les, though the one were Protestant and the other Roman Catholic—or that because the Pope bad done something which was insulting to England, therefore we were determined to put an end to the Papal hierarchy in Ireland. He should give his hearty sup port to the amendment. - After a few words from Mr. SCULLY, in opposition to the amendment, Mr. Walpole'a clause was, by leave, withdrawn. Mr. REYNOLDS said, that two hours and a half had been spent in discussing an amendment which had been at last withdrawn, and he wished to know if all the amendments standing in the name of the Honourable and Learned Member for Midhurat were also to be withdrawn? Mr. WALPOLE had already stated the course he meant to take. He would support the amendment of his Hon. and Learned Friend the Member for. Abingdon (Sir F. Thesiger) relative to the prosecuting power, and he would pr. as his own amendnwnts on the preamble. After a few words from Mr. KEOGH, Mr. M'CULLAGH moved tae amendment of which he bad given notice, after the words 'by law,' to in. sert these words, ' or who shall have been recognised as Catholic archbishop of any province, Roman Catholic bishop of any diocese. or Roman Catholic dean of any deanery, by any of her Majesty's superior courts of law or equity.' " The documents to which he would refer were either originals or at tested copies. The first was a document of the Court of Chancery in Ireland' at the time when Sir Edward Sugden was Chancellor. After the B quests Act was passsd the Rowan Catholic inhabitants of Drogheda, considering that certain property which bad hitherto been applied to Protestant purposes alone .hy the corporation, should be also applied for the benefit of Roman Catholics, brought the case before the Court of Chancery, and Sir Edward Sugden directed an in quiry by the Ma.ter as to who should be the proper trustees, and the Master found that the property was applicable, without regard to sect, to the children of the poor of the locality, and in his report the Master num- d eight Protestant and eight Roman Catholic trustees of the common fund, the first ..f the Roman Catholic trus ,r.-. Proposed by M as t e r Henn. being, in the words of the report, " the Most Rev. Dr. Crolly, Roman Catholic Archbish op o f Armagh, and Primate of Ireland." To, that report excentitins were taken; and in the order mad e by Chancellor n,H Sugden, on the, hearing of them, he affirmed mastto show the futilit ent.'a r e po r t, and awarded cost., yof the objections raised. Ou the death of Dr. Crolly F u roctedings were again taken to have the vacancy report be made use of still more Master Henn's second th" trustees filled up; and in remarkable words, i n wy. og p tip the vacancy. with the name of " the Most Catholic Archbishop of Armagh,ul Cullen' R i oni tb 4 e n colsrse of the present D.D., Roman n . and Primate of ail Ire hid beer 4 sent from Maly or Lind" It had been stated &bite that the present thein violation of the Catholic Bishop of law of the hnd and the usage But of the four last Archbishops of Ar Irish Church. Armagh, was elected by the clergy—the other threw w ere onlyone trans ferred by the Pope from other places: Dr. C u rt is Spain, Dr. Cullen from Italy, and Dr. Kellytranslated from from another see iu Ireland. There was another e ase. A gentleman named Burke left a large sum for achari table purposes to the Roman Catholic Archbishop of 'foam, Dr. ;PHale, and a question havit g arisen be tweeo the legate,- and the inheritors cf the estate, a bill Wai fi:ed in Chancery, and letters of adrninistr a ti, n were sought in the Prerogative Court by Dr. M'Hale; the letters of administration were granted in the name 1 of the Pros4otaut Primat e, the n o min a l head of that j L'ONDON, court, to "John, Roman Cathelie Archbishop of Them, awl his Grace the Priinete elf Ireland;" awl the paper bore the-signatre or the judgeef the court,•Dr."Keat inge. toe preteat Master of the Roby, in finally adju dicating the ca•c, riTeire'd - is his - order to an affilavit made by the " imaft Catholic Archbishop of Nene" These were the words. The next case he would refer to was one in which a bequest was made to Dr. John Cantwer, Bishop of Mean; and Master Litton, in his report, found that the possessiWn of the property vested in " the Most ft tiv. Dr. Cantwell, Roman - Catholic Bishop of ,eleeth;" (Mr. M . C4lragh) was entitled, then, to say that the superior courts of law in Ireland had recognised the existence of those titles. • Mr. NAPIER said that on every point of the ques tion, especially as far as it related to Ireland, it was important they should nee their way clearly, because an attempt had been made to contuse the state of the law as reearded Ireland, and induce the belief that there was a diff-rence bet eeen the law of the two countries, and also to induce •the people of Ireland to believe that what the House was now engaged in was a species of crusade against them and their religion, whereas they were only employed in declaring what was the law and the con stitution of the country in the [natter. And when he heard the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir J. Graham) the other night telling them that they were declaring war against 8,000,000 of her Majesty's subjects, at a time when they were only explaining the law of the land, he listened with pain and indignation to the Right Honourable Baronet. What he challenged Honourable Gentlemen to show was, what difference there was be tween the law of the two countries. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman, in his amendment, spoke of the Roman Catholic archbishops, bishops, or deacons who shall have been recognised as such by the superior courts of law and equity. With regard to the courts of law, he had heard no instance mentioned of their having re cognised them. But there were some cases which had occurred previous to the Act of '29 to. which he was surprised that reference had not been made. The only case in Ireland which would be affected by this new legislation was that of the Bishop of Galway; and even with regard to that it did not make the assumption of the title a new offence, the annexation of a penalty to what was prohibited by .the Act of '29 being in fact but a new punishment. With respect •to what had been said about letters of ordination, marriage certificates, and the like, and their being put in evidence in certain cases, in all his experience he had never known an instance but .me of the kind, and that was the case of a marriage certificate. But with reference to the cases he had re ferred to as occurring in the law courts, one was an ap plication to the Queen's Bench by a priest, who had be- r come a Protestant, for a mandamus to compel Dr. Murray to give him letters of ordination, in order that he might pr eve his title, and obtain preferment in the Established Church. Chief Just ce Bushe, a man of the most marked courtesy, delivered a written judgment. and throughout he called the Roman- Catholic bishop Dr. Murray. Again, in the case of a property demised to a Roman Catholic bishop and his successors, a question arose on 'he-death of the bishop between the heir-at-law and the successor of the bishop, the former claiming by descent, the bishop claiming as devisee; and the heir-at-law suc ceeded, the Court not recognising the official character of the title. But what was the opinion of Dr. M. Halo himself on the question of titles? In the year 1830, writing to the Bistiop of Exeter, Dr. M'Hale said, " then, your titles and your palaces. As for your titler, leaving the vein ambition of such baubles to your Lord ship and the Gentiles, we shall be content with the me,' e Christian office of administering to the spiritual wants of those over whom we are appointed." In the case re ferred to by the Hon. and Larned Gentleman the tes tator bequeathed 37,0001. for charitable purouses to Dr. Murray, Archbishop of Dublin, and Dr. Kelly, Arch hishop of Tusm, and their successors. On the death of Dr. Kelly, Dr. Murray and his co trustees executed a deed of appointment nominating Dr. M.liale the succes sor of Dr. Kelly, but Dr. M'Hale did not as a matter of course, as being the successor of Dr. Kelly in the see of Tuam, become a trustee witbt,ut that deed of appoint ment. Again, in the case of the letters of adcoinistra- cion referred to by the Hon. Gentleman as having been taken out by Dr. *Hale in the Prerogative Court, bow did he sign the administration bond? Why, with the words "J. Al• Hale." As to the case of Sir E. Sugden, it was to be observed that Sir E. Sugden never biniW it. The Master certainly did see it, and did, as he would have done himself in similar circumstances, permitted it to pass where there was no question about it. Such then were the cases on which they were called upon to make a provision. But then they were told of the 13 , vests Act. Why, the book he held in his hand, written by a Roman Catholic barrister, referred to the Bequests Act, and declared that the rights which the Roman Catholic bishops ex eroi,ed could be so exercised without acknow- !edging them to be bishops of any particular diocese; and also that the Bequests Act made no alteration in their status.—(Hear.) And yet it was said that it amounted to a declaration of war against her Majesty's Roman Catholic subj,cts w hen they were called upon to pass a defensive Act—(Hear)—and in so doing, he said k hat they could make no distinction between England and Ireland. He denied that the Roman Catholics in England were entitled to less liberty than the Roman Catholics in Ireland, or that the Protestants of Ireland were entitled to less protection than the Protestants of England.—(Cheers.) It they made any such distinction he asked what kind of a United Kingdom they were to have ? Mr. REYNOLDS was not, he said, disposed to fol low into the maze of law into which the Hon. and Learned Gentlemen would lead them, and who on this occasion was to be regarded as counsel for the Irish branch of the Protestant Established Church of England and Irelarid.—(Hear.) The Hon. and Learned Gentle- Man bad referred, he said with pain and indignation" to the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member fur Ripon. These were strong words to be used by one of the meek and religious character of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman.—(Hear.) Now, he repeated the words of the Right Hon. Baronet, and he said that the Roman Catholic people of Ireland would consider this Bill a declaration of war against their religion.—(Hear. hear.) He went further, and said that it was his belief that, if this Bill became law. the Roman Catholic re ligion could not be carried on in Ireland but by the permission of the Attorney-General for the time being.—(Hear.) Although be intended to vote for the proviso, he set little value on ir, as it would not refer to more than a few bishops, and even if it were carried he would set little value on it.—(Hear, hear.) Neither would he have voted for the amendment of the Hon. and Learned Member for Midhurst, which exempted Ireland, because in doing so it would have imposed penalties on the Roman Catholic Church in England. He believed that the first clause being adopted without any explana tory proviso, the otherclauses were of little consequence, ir in the first clause might be said to be the Bill, the whole B i ll, an d nothing but the Bill." The Bill itself was a declaration of religious war; it was an attempt to prop up the religion of the minority in Ir'eland, and us tnrow obstacles in the way of the Catholic Church in Ireland —established therein by no human law, but pro vided, maintained, and preserved therein by the law of God; and he now told the Goyernment.that the Roman Catholics would sooner sacrifice their lives than submit to any law which interfered with their religion. Mr. J. O'CONNELL remarked that at the time of ~passing the Emancipation Bill it had been officially in timated to the Roman- Catholic prelates that this clause iu that Bill affecting their titles would not be acted upon. Bearing that in mind, they used eXpressions on which an argument was now sought to be founded by the Hon. and Learned Member for the University of Dublin, who, in the same breath, argue d that no attention was to be Paid to words deliberately inserted in legal deeds. He regretted that the Hon. and Learned Member had not imitated the example of his co-religionists in Ireland, and not joined- in that common clamour against the Roman Catholics which was so disgraceful to this country. Sir W. VERNER remarked that the Hon. Meniber for Dublin told the Noble Lord at the bead of the Go vernment that if this Bill passed it would be opposed by the Roman Catholics of Ireland.. He, on the contrary, said, tithe Bill became law it would be supported by the Protestants of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) How could they be called loyal subjects who dared the head of her Ma jesty's Government to enforce the law? If the Roman Catholics opposed the law of the land, then they would be rebels.—(Hear, hear.) And yet this was said by a couple dozen of Roman Catholic M4mbere who were not allowed to have an opinion of their own, but were fOrced to obey the wishes of their clergy.—(Cries of " Oh, oh," and cheers.) He (Sir W. Verner) hoped the English Members would put a stop to this proceeding, they had the means in their own hands. Mr, M. J. O'CONNELL hoped the Government was awake to the topics of the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman. The opposition of the Hon. Member for Dublin was le.s feral than the support of the Hon. and Gallant Member. Thee upporters promised by him were those men whom Sir R. Abercrombie once said were dangerous to every one but the enemy. Remembering past times, the de claration of the Hon. and Gallant Officer gave cause to suspect danger. He flung back upon the Hon. Baronet the imputation that CatholieW had no will of their own with calm but perfect scorn. They were, moreover, members of no secret societies. Mr. SCULLY said the loyalty of the men adverted to by the Gallant Colonel was, not long since.designated "a sixpenny loyalty," and there was no reason to suppose it had changed its character -since 1849. He deprecated such imputations as were cast upon the Catholics of Ire land by the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman, and denied his statement as to the number of Protestants in that coun try. In conclusion he called upon the Government not to place any dependence on the quasi Orangemeq of Ire land, but to depend upon the love tied loyalty of the Ca tholics. Sir W. VERNER explained. The Hon. Member bad dared the Prim,- Minister to pass the Bill on pun of the opposition of the Roman Catholics of Ireland. He (Sir W. Verner) believed that the Hon. Member did not re present the opinions of that body; but if he did, then he (Sir W. Verner) had nothing t) withdraw from his atate- Mt !It Mr. REYNOLDS explained. He had never dared the Prime Mit.istar to pass the Bill; but he told him his threats had no weight with him (Mr. Reynolds) ; and thtit if be passed any penal law, the Catholics of this day would act as their ancestors had done—stiff , r even death for their religion, if nec , ssary. He (Mr. Reynolds) denounced the conduct of the Hon. and Gallant Member, for urging on the Government to cut down his Catholic f•ilow-countryrnen. He could tell him that the Catho lics despised his threats, and defied his power, and that such braggadocia was laughed to scorn by the people of Ireland. The Honourable and Gallant Gentleman talked of 2 006,000 of Protestants ; but in 1835 there were only 750 000 Episcopalians, and 750,000 of all Wal e o, her &non:lnert, The Honourable Gentleman, with Diamond" courage. said the Protestants of IN-l au d were t h ree m i.li one.— (N o. ) If th ese state re( nts were not controverted, Honoura bl e G ent l eman woul d go on Poetising until they believed their own gulruth.—(ol3, oh 1) So (Mr. Reynolds) hoped there ~c~. ~~ EVENING. wollidiso an end of this Battle of the Pismond boasting —the Dolly's Brae lot thet the Government would rec,,lle c t th e r a te -i n - a i'Ellil tta the Membsrs for Protestaat eonslituenciei in /reland,—(Criee of The London eonference - TestiVal of the "Letter - day . " Question.") The boating ef the Gallant Genersl was-, Saints" was held yesterdey wnat he (Mr. Reynolds) coiled " Tellegh Hill " talk afternone, with all the cm ! , ; mony peculiar to the order, at the Freemasons' Tavern, he could not, and heolared not, carry it into execution. Greet Qesen-street. He (Mr. Reynolds) repeated his steternent that the Pro- Elder Eli B. Kelsey, president of the conference, occu testents of Ireland, as s ts belly, were not in favour of the pied the chai r . • - Bill. After a few words from Mr. J. O'CONNELL , in ex- commencing the busi ness o f the day, the body of the plsnati on, large. hall and the galleries were crowded with a very The Committee divided, when there appeared— ' respectable an i orderly assembly, consisting of about an For the amendment 45 ' equ a l di v i s i on o f t h e members of both sexes. The pro;. Against it ... .........291 - portion of young persons, male and female, was rather Majority against the ainendment —246 considerable. Admission was procured' by tickets;` Mr. MOORE then propo se d as an amendment, aftei which adults were charged Is., and children under twelve the words England and Irel an d to insert these words, years of age 9d.; and 'in return they received refresh "so lone; as the said Church shall continue to be the tents, in the shape of cake, buns, oranges,:&c., besides United Church of England and Ireland." It appeared to being allowed to participate in the proceedings. In ad him that those who wished that th e Fitablished Crioreh dition to the principal leaders of the "Sainte" in London, should continue as it was in both countries would have and the provinces, and in Scotland and Ireland, there objection to that proposition; but another section of were also present several brethren from America,France, the House, including the Noble Lord himself, who did Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, and Sweden, who hap not wish that the said Church should. be the Church of pened to have come to the'raerropolis to visit the England and Ireland, c 'aid h ave n o objection to his E h 1 Pro' bition. There could not, altogether, have been less than' position. The Noble Lord himself had declared, on pre- 1,100 people in the ball, and we believe that nearly vious occahle asionoccs, ithat the such 'were his opinions. On at twice that number w ere re f use d t i ckets, in consequence memoreson N o bl e L or d had said On there not being sufficient room to accommodate them. unless they made a sweeping reform in the Este- As soon as the congregation had settled down in their blished Church of Ireland, there ought to be a re- places, and perfect order prevailed, the first procession peal of the Union. He would entreat of the Com-, was ushered into the hall by the marshal of the day. mittee to consider at that moment what were the It consisted of twelve presidents of branches in plain feelings of dissatisfaction and dis a ff e ction in Ireland attire, each carrying a long wooden staff;" tiventY-foar in connexion with the Established Church in Ire- young ladies dressed in white muslin visites, and having land. That estlbl'shinent in Irela n d was only continued their hair ornamented with blue ribbons, and twenty to maintains flimsy sham, at which be believed even its four , young men with blue scarfs. The precession hay supporters laughed in their sleeves.—(Question, ques- ing marched once round the assembly, the presidents tton.) He would leave it to the judgm ent o f the Noble took their places for the proper maintenance of order, Lord to bring forward that measure in respect to the and the young ladies and gentlemen seated them- Established Church in Ireland that he had so long led selves to the chairman's left, preparatory to waiting them to anticipate, and which they had a right to ex- upon the assembly. Next came the second procession, pect from his sense of justice. which seemed to attract much more attention, than the. The CHAIRMAN having put the question. first, and was composed as follows:—the tiwelve Mr. H. DRUMMOND said he should think that there apostles," or "fathers in Israel." all aged ,and grey would be a great want of prop r i ety i n hi m if, upon a headed men, each with a staff; twelve young men clause in a Biel having objects wholly disconnected with wearing large blue seeds, and each' carrying a the state of the Established Church in Ireland, he veil- Bible in the right hand, and a Book of tured into any such irrevalent matter. He was not sur- Mormon in the left ; twelve young ladies, prised that there was such a considerable feeling of dis- taller-and better looking than the former, dressed in appointmet4 in the House at the state to which that white muslin, wearing blue scarfs, and upon their heads discussion had arrived.—(Hear, h ear .) I t did not wreaths of roses, and each carrying a bouquet of fhwere. become him to offer any advice to the House; but The assembly arose and saluted the procession. It for himself he would pursue this course: he would alien walked once round the ball, and previous to being not attempt to modify, to amend, or to alter in any seated at the chairman's right sang the following song, way the provisions of the Bill. Let the Government " The Mountain Standard," -with no lack of level power and those who choose to meddle with it, with a view nor of effect:— to its perfection or destruction, treat it as they pleaSed, for it was their own child. But he would ven ture to suggest to Hon. Gentlemen that they should re serve themselves for that which h e th oug h t was an exceedingly likely and the best course, in order not to deceive the country with a false measure, which was in tended by words to enact that which it never could do, and by which they . would really. compromise their own character as well as deceive the people.—(Cheers.) Mr. REYNOLDS said it occurred to him that the Noble Lord should,fvour the Committee ith his o nion as to the merits a of this provi s o. Ile w was desirous to have the benefit of his opinion, recollecting as he did the many brilliant and powerful speeches that had been delivered by him on the subject of the Irish Church.— (Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member for Mayo had now furnished the Noble Lord a golden opportunity of ex pressing himself on , the sutsject.—(Laughter.) He grounded his belief upon his last memorable effort upon the appropriation clause discussion in 1835, when he carried his motion triumphantly through the House; the result of which was the dislodgement of the late Right Hon. Baronet (Sir Robert Peel) from . office. Wo u ld the Noble Lord then divide the Committee now upon the terteless proposition of the Hon. Member for Mayo? Would he enable them to' tell the millions of Ireland—aye, and the Presbyterians of Scotland and England, that the Noble Lord was anxious to remove the injustice of the Established Church in Ireland Was the Church of the minority to be still forced upon the im mense majority of that country, who were compelled to maintain it along with their own? He thanked the Right Hon. Baronet in his own name, and in the name of nib fellow countrymen,' for the manly advocacy of the interests of 7,000,000 of Irish Catholics, whose grad tude would compensate for the harsh effects of the lan guage of the Hon. Member for the University of Dublin. Lord J. RUSSELL said his opinion was that the speech of the Hon. Member had nothing to do with the amendment before the House, and he should therefore decline the invitation to enter upon the discussion of the question of the Established Church of England and ireland, The Committee then divided, when there appeared— For the amendment ... 36 Against it ... 240 Majority against the amendment • -204 Mr. REYNOLDS, moved that the' Chairman report progress. and ask leave to sit again, Lord J. RUSS Ii:LL consented to the motion. ComfMttee to be resumed on Friday.. The Prisons . (Scotland) Bill went through Committee. SALMON FISHERIES (IRELAND). Mr. CONOLLY moved for leave to tiring in a Bill to consolidate and amend the laws relating to salmon fisheries in Ireland, but stated that it was not his in tenttbn to press it during the present session. Sir W. SOMERVILLE would not oppose the intro duction of the 'Bill after the statement of t h e H onoura bl e Member. • . caoause • - For we're the true born sons of Zion, Who with us that canrcompare We're of the root and br anc h of compare, The bright and glorious morninotar. Lo the Gentile chain is broken; • •, . Freedom's banner waves on high, List ye nations! by this token, ' Know that your Redeemer's nigh. For we're the true born sops; &C. See on yonder distant mountain? . t • Zion's standard wide nnfurled,. • , Far above Missouri's fountain, • Lo! it waves for all the world.. . For we're the true born sous; &a. Freedom, peace, and full salvation, Are the blessings guaranteed; ' Lib arty to every !wawa, Every tongue and every creed. • For we're the true born sons, &c. Come, ye - Christian, sect, and Pagan, Pope, and Protestant. and priest, • Worshippers of God or Dagen, Come ye to fair freedom's feast. For we're the true born sons, &c. Come, ye sons of doubt and wonder, Indian, Moslem, Greek, or Jew, All your shackles burst asunder, Freedom's banner waves for you. For we're the true born sons, &a. Cease to butcher one another, Join the covenant of peace, Be to all a friend, a brother, This will bring the world release. For we're the true born sons, &o. Lo ! our King ! the great Messiah, Prince of Peace, shall come to reign ; Sound again ye heavenly choir, ' Peace on earth, good will to men. For we're the true born sons, &c. After this the choir in the gallery struck up another song Oh! say what is truth ?"—and, on its conclu sion, Elder Thomas Squires, the chaplain, read the 6 h chapter of Nephi, in the Book of Mormon, and the 10th chapter of St. John, in the New Testament. He then offered up a fervid and eloquent prayer, and the whole assembly afterwards joined in a hymn—" Glorious things are sung of Zion. " Elier COOK, one of " the fathers," next advanced upon the platform, and delivered an address illustrative of the faith and obedience of Latter-day Saints, and expressive of their loyalty and determination to up hold the government of Queen Victoria. He said ' it was with the most ardent emotions of love and esteem that he rose on behalf of his brethren, who were aged sires or fathers of Israel, to congratulate the presidency ut the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in this kingdom, and the brethren in the apostleship and ministry on their assembling together on that happy occasion, which would hereafter be remembered as one of surpassing interest to them as a people whose rising greatness had began to dawn upon the world, whose meteoric appearance above the moral horiz m was re garded by the various classes of observers with mingled teelings of wonder, admiration, and fear, and though there were thousands who would not turn their faces to the quarter from whence the light Caine, its influences would nevertheless. be universal, and its rays would dispel the gross darkness which covered the minds of Leave was then given to bring in the Bill, which was read a first time. The ATTORNEY-GENER,AL for IRELAND ob tained leave to bring in a I3iil to amend an Act of the 11th and 12th years of her Maj , -sty, relating to poor rate poundage and the v,dustion of ecclesiastical property in Ireland, and to provide for the renewal of leases of lands disupproptiated from bishoprics. On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, Mr. Fox Mettle was discharged from further attendance on the Select Committee on Kahr Tribes, and Mr. Labourchere was added to the Committee. The other buNiu,as was then d sposed of, and the House adjourned at a Q,uurter to One o'clock. the people. They felt gratefully conscious of the protection afforded them by the just and tolerant laws of the constitution under which it was their happiness to find shelter, and they gladly took that opportunity of declaring their loyal and undivided attachment to the person and government of Queen Victoria, the beloved Sovereign of these realms. As it was the teaching of Christ that they should always re spect the laws of the country wherein their lot was cast, they would ever be found ready to defend the lawfully constituted authorities of any state; and should the DEATH of the EARL of SHAFTESBURY. We regret to annouuce the decease yesterday of that venerable and much-respected nobleman, CropleY Ash ley Cooper, Earl of Shatesbury, Baron Ashley of Wim borne St. Giles, county Dorset, Baron Cooper, of Pau lett, county Somerset, and a baronet. The noble de ceased was born Dec. 27, 1768, consequently he was in the 83d 3 ear of his age. He married, Dec. 10, 1796, Anne, daughter of George, Duke of Marlborough, and aunt of the present Duke, and succeeded to the title of Earl of Shane bury on the death of his brother, the sixth Earl; in May, 1811. Four sons and three daugh tera:eurvive the late Noble Earl, the eldest of whom is Lord Ashley, iiow Earl of Shaftesbury, whose elevation to the House of Peers creates a vacancy in the represen tation of the city of Bath. The lace Earl of Shaftesbury for many years most ably filled the high and responsible office of Chairman of Committees of the House of L ards; and on his retire. went a short time since fr om t h at onerous post received the well-merited eulogies of the beads of all parties. time ever arrive when the peace of this country was menaeed by foreign aggression or the outburst of revo lutionary faction, their loyalty as a people would prove an additional safeguard to the throne, the constitution, and laws of the kingdom. Their prospects on every hand were most cheering, even in that country where toe Latter-day Saints were cruelly and relentlessly perse cuted, where unrestrained mobs could assemble with im punity in broad day and shed the blood of the prophet Joseph and the patriarch Hiram, and afterwards con summate their guilt by forcibly ejecting from the it homes, in the midst of severe winter, 11,000 uuoffend ing, unresisting citizens, whose only crime was that they were Latter-day Saints—even in that coun try the hand of persecution has been etayul, and the Federal Government had deemed it just to confer honours on the man whom they had dishonoured as the leader of a people whom they had previously af fected to despise. Their prospects in this country were also very gratifying, for though but a few years ago, when three elders came first from America to preach the everlasting Gospel, tbey were not known as a people, yet now the Lord had added to their body tens of thousands; and, therefore, with bounding hearts they might ex claim, " The Lord is with us—the God of Jacob is our refuge." The secret of the unparalleled success which had attended the labours of the apostles and the other elders of the church, though opposed by every form of priestcraft, assisted by the madness of ignorance and superstition, lay in that unparalleled union of feeling and readiness to obey those placed over them in the Lord which had at all times characterised the saints. While other communities had beeps split up into fragments by internal dissensions and sectarian strife, their church presented a mighty phalanx of noble spirits, impregnable to all the assaults of earth and hell, and he predicted they would one day become a mighty people, whoso in fluence should be felt and faith propagated through all nations of the earth. The chorus and procession then joined in a song t o " the Rising Glory of 'Lion," after which Mr. JOHN HYDE, j u n., delivered an address on be half of the young men, illustrative of the rise and pro gress of the church in America, in the British Isles, and in London and vicinity. With reference to America, he said the dark ignorance and superstitions which pre vailed in the world, as well as the divisions among the people, fostered by debate and perpetuated by new sects, proclaimed that the spirit which baptized unto one body had fled; that the time bad come for the commence ment of the seventh dispensation of justice and mercy to man, end it therefore pleased the Lord, on the night of the 21st of September, 1823, to send an angel to Mr. Joseph "Smith, jun., native of Sharon, Windsor, county Ver mont, to tell him his sins were forgiven, and that ho was the chosen of God to establish his church, and usher in the day of preparation for the millennium of Jesus Christ. The angel revealed many things, the origin of the American Indians, and the existence and locality of certain plates, from which the Book of Mormon was afterwards translated, and the purposes of God in reference to them. After con tinued revelations for four years, on the 22d of Septem ber, 1827, the angel delivered the records into his hands. Mr. Smith, by the power of God, translated some of the inscriptions on the plates, and an edition of such trans lation was published in 1830, on the 6th of April in that year, " The Church" was organised in the town of Manchester, Ontario county, New York, the month of December following. The speaker then went on to re late how the Lord, by revelation, directed them to the western borders of rho Missouri, as the place where the New Jerusalem was to be built; how they directed their steps thither, and met for the first time in conference in Jackson county, on the 4th of August, 1831; how the inhabitants rose en masse, drove them from their chosen city, killing many and whipping others; burning their houses, destroying their crops, throwing their furniture piecemeal into the streets, and compelling great numbers to perish from starvation and exposure; how the heavens opened and angels wept to see the atrocity of man, whilst a meteoric shower of shooting stars struck terror into the hearts of their persecutors, but infused hopes into the bosom of the saints; how they subse quent l y settled in Clay county, and were again expelled obliged to procure a refuge in Hancock county. Illinois, their way thither being marked by graves filled with their dead, or to be traced by blood from their suffering, enfeebled, and emaciated framcs. The Missourians, instead of repenting these deeds of rapine, outrage, and murder, rejoiced in there, and thousands of soldiers under DEATH OF MR. RICHARD LALOR SHELL. We regret to say that intelligence reached town yes terday afternoon, of the sudden death of the Right Lion. Richard Lalor Sheil, her Majesty's recently appointed Minister at the Court of Tuscany. The immediate cause of this melancholy event is stated to have been an attack of gout in the stomach; but there is reason to believe that a late tragical incuitnt in the Lion. Gentleman's family, involving the lamentable death of his sun-in-law, Mr. Power, of Gart e en , occasioned a shock which has prove d too great fur the highly excitable nervous sus ceptibility and keen sensitiveness which invariably ac c. mpanies the higher order of kenius such as distin guished Mr. Sheil. The Right Hon. Gentleman was in his 57th year. having been b orn i n 1784. He married, first, miss O'Halloran, neice o f S ir. W. Mahon, Bart • secondly, 1830, the daughter of John Lalor, Esq , of Crane, near Clonmel, relict of Eimund Power, Eq, of Garteen, county Tipperary. lie was called to the Irish bar in 1814; was Vice-President of the Board of Trade from 1839—when h e was appointed a Privy Councillor —till alloarrc_hd 11 June, 1841; and Judge Advocate- General from June to September, 1841, LAW PROPERTY ASSURANCE AND TRUST SOCIETY, —The first annual general meeting of this society was held at the offices, 30, •Essex-street. The chair was taken by Edward William Cox, Esq., the chairman of the society. There was a numerous attendance of the shareholders. Tue report congratulated the meeting on the entire success of the society. At the end of the first year the income more than doubled the expenditure , so that already it had become self supporting, a fact almost unprecedented in the history of assurance offices. They had received 313 proposals, of which 192 were accepted and in force, yielding an annual income of 2,234/., and 27 other proposals had been accepted and were in progress of completion. Not a single life assured had dropped during the year. All the shales were subscribed and only a few forfeited ones remained. The utility of the assurance of leaseholds and copyholds, and Of the redemption of mortgages and loans, although a novel application of the principle of assurance, was already recogniz e d by the public, and many policies of this class had been effected. The assurance of titles was beginning to be understood, and many proposals were before the board. '1 he application of this to the use of large properties sold in small lots by substitution of a policy of assurance of title for the investigation of the whole, and attested copies for each separate purchaser, was likely to be very ext- nsively udcpted. The expenses of forming the society, including the registration, &c., and every cost, had been singularly small—not exceeding 1 ,2001. Their excellent offices cost them only 100/ a year including taxes; they had one of the most efficient actuaries and secretaries in London, and their entire office expenses did not exceed 7001. a year. There was no doubt now that the society would speedily become one of the most extensive and influential, as its objects are the most useful of any yet established in the United Kingdom. The report was unanimously adopted. A sum was voted to the directors and auditors, a ith thanks for their services. 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THE ROUTE TO AUSTKALIA.—The Parliamentary Committee on steam communication with India, China, and Au.;tralia, decided yesterday (Mo• day), •Jy a majority of It to 5, in favour of the route to Australia, by the Cape, as being the most desirable for the transport of the mails. Gaa liweitm.iiti IL risAitcm walui iJa4i erwod z. nal TUESDAY JUNE 8,, 1851. GREAT FESTIVAL OF THE "LAT TER-DAY SAINTS,": • General Clark, marched by the order of Governor Bove to plender their property and drive them out once more. The regi-lature was appealed ro in_yain, for instead_ of heeding the cerdr ls , o , o o - siifferlyg, unoffending, and deeply iniureil-reftizons, it sanctioned the act, and voted 200.000 . aAluis to defray the expenses att en di ng t h e attemPted exterraineeien and accomplished banishment of the saints, " The Church" arrived in Hancock county early in 1838. Si x years f rom that date the city of Nauvoo was erected, and her temple was regarded as the masterpiece of architecture in the Uoited States. In 1844, so rapidly had the church progressed that there were 30,000 inhabitants of Nauvoo, and the city militia, commanded and organized by the United States Law, numbered 200 young men,' but scarcely had they settled down in quiet industry to cultivate the soil and dispense a knowledge of the blessings they enjoyed, when the Missourians and Illoniens recommi need their persecu tions, and agaiu drove them from Nauvoo, while the cro p s of their planting were pillaged, ravaged, and de stroyed. But why expatiate on their sufferings, when there wore those present who were among the many chat had to leave Native.? In the year 1847, 140 left the Bluffs .as pioneers, having arrived there from Nauvoo; they ware led by God to the Valley of the - Oleg Salt Lake, and the main body of the saints entered it in the same year—and there they would remelt). at rest, like the ocean rock, amidst the rush and raging of the watery billows around. The speaker then adverted to the progress of " the Church" in England, observing that in 1837, one year before the saints reached Nauvoo, Elders K. C. Kimball and Orson Hyde, together with several others, landed at Liverpool friendless and destitute. They se parated ,and went forth preaching into the towns on either side. Preston first heard and obeyed the princi ples of truth. In eight months seven hundred members met in conference in that town, rejoicing in the power and privilege of the Gospel. In a very short time several counties, among which were Yorkshire, Cheshire, Lancashire,. Stafford, Gloucester, Worcester end Hereford had heard and received the servants of God. Thus the church increased; so that in 1840, after three years labour, the general conference reported 3,626 members, arid 383 in the priesthood, making in all 4.019 saints. But such triumphant success was not con fined to England; Scotland er joyed a portion, and Ire land was also made to rejoice, and Wales testified by her thousands how the church bad progressed in that pro vince. In Scotland the blood -cemented pyramid of bigotry and superstition had been triumphantly attacked, although sustained by the proverbial wariness of the Scotch. The conference established in Edinburgh, notwithstanding that hundreds had re moved and hundreds more emigrated, still represented more than 1,300 members. Glasgow was also pro claimed, and over 2,063 members were now revelling in the enjoyment of the spirit of truth. In 1851 more than 3,530 bad obeyed the mandates of Heaven, and thousands had besides emigrated to the gathering place of the saints. As to Ireland, it was not until 1850 that Dublin had heard the principles of truth ; he was, however, glad to say that a small branch had been es tablished in that city. In Wales their success was still more great and glorious. In 1851 the number of saints in the principality was 4,848, including officers. The sta tistics of January last showed there were, altogether, in the United Kingdom, 42 conferences, 602 branches, 22 seventies, 12 high priests, 1,761 elders, 1,590 priests,, 1,226 teachers, 682 deacons, and 25,454 members, making a total of 30,747 saints. During the last 14 years more than 50.000 had been baptiz , d in England, of which nearly 17,000 had emigrated from her shores to Zion. He next gave a brief sketch of the progress of she work in London. In February, 1841, the London con ference was organized, consisting of three branches — London, Woolwich, and Bedford, and composed of about 80 members, The number of members in 1842 bad in creased to 400 or 500, and the number of bra , ches h,d more than trebled. During the last five years 2,981 persons had yielded in obedience to the Gospel. In the present year the conference tell to the presidential charge of the present chairman, Elder Eli B. Kelsey, whose knowledge had been tested, and whose actions spoke well for his wisdom and discretion. After an earnest appeal that he might be enabled to guide them aright in the blessed path before them, he concluded by ex pressing a hope that this might be a new era in the conference, and that the epoch to come might be one of success, happiness, knowledge, and light. The assembly then joined in a song written for the occasion, entitled " The Mountain Dell." One of the ycung ladies, dressed in white—perhaps the most handsome and ladylike of the number—then took her place on the platform, and delivered, in a clear and well modulated voice, an address on behalf of the young ladies, relative to the important part sustained by their sex in assisting to elevate the morals and improve the spiritual condition of the human family by the spread of the Gospel, and the upbuilding of the kingdom of God, &c. Miss Louise. JOHNSTONE, of Birmingham, a young vocalist of considerable merit, who presided at the piano throughout the day, next favoured the company with the following song. written by the same author, and also de signed for this festival:— I'M A SAINT, I'M A SAINT! I'm a saint, I'm a saint, on the rough world wide, The earth is my home, and my God is my guide! Up, up with the truth, let its power bend the knee, I am sent, I am sent, and salvation is free. I fear not old priestcraft, its dogmas can't awe, I've a chart for to steer by, that tells me the law, And ne'er as a coward to falsehood ril kneel While Mormon tells truth, or God's prophets reveal! Up, up with the truth, let its power bend the knee; I am sent ! I am sent! dying Bab'lon to thee, I am sent ! I am sent! take this warning and flee. The arm of the tyrant fell terror may spread, Yet, tho' they oppose us, their strongholds we'll tread, What to us is the scorn of the selfish and vain, We have borne it before, and we'll bear it again. The fire gleaming bolts of oppression may fall, And kill off the body, death can't us appal! With heaven above us, and all hell mad b e lo w ! Thro' the wide fields of error, right onward we'll go. Come o n, my brave comrades, now's the time you should speak, The storm-fiend is roused from his long dreamy sleep. Our watchword for safety in Zion shall be, lam sent I I am sent dying Bab'lon to thee, I am sent ! I am sent ! take this warning and flee. The people having regaled themselves with refresh ments, were again called to order, whereupon The PRESIDENT, in a brief address, welcomed to London " the twelve," the presidents of the conferences and visitors generally. Elder FRANKLIN D. RICHARDS, president of the church in the British Isles, replied. Elder JOHN TAYLOR, of the French mission, next ad dressed the meeting. He had travelled over the greater portion of the world, and had contemplated man in all his different positions, in adversity and prosperity, in happiness and misery, with all his hopes, errors, joys, propensities, and passions, and he confessed he never saw a people for whom he had such ardent love, affec tion, and regard, as the saints of the Moat High. Though they had been persecuted and driven from one spot to another in America until at last people began to say that Mormonism was destroyed, broken up, and scattered to the Luc winds of heaven, and had uttered its last dying groan, yet they had now had the territory of Deserate, had a legislature and governor of their own, and were going on prosperously, and what was more, they had been recognized as an independent state by the Congress of the United States. The reason that their people were so orderly and united was that they first taught them correct principles, and then allowed them to govern themselves. A great deal had been said about the prophet Joseph Smith. Now, he had known hint in public and private, frequently tra velled with him, and was even present at his death,when he was ruthlessly murdered in the gaol of Carthage; and all who said ho was not an intelligent, virtuous, and good man, either did not tell or know the truth. After some further observations on the purity of their religion, and its superiority over that of any other sect in the world, combining as it did all that was good in each, while it discarded all that was bad, he closed his address by an exhortation that blessings might be showered on the whole assembly. Hyms, and songs, and addresses from Lorenzo Snow, President of the Italian Mission, and Erastus Snow, of the Danish Mission, followed, and the meeting did not separate until a rather late hour. The utmost cordiality and good feeling prevailed among the large assembly until it was dismissed by the chaplain. PICTURES OF THE CRYSTAL PALACE.—Yesterday we inspected some very interesting drawings of this great edifice at No. 114, New Bond-street, the establishment of the Messrs. Dickinson. They are no other than the sketches produced by that artist in obedience to the command of her Majesty, and represent respectively the eastern nave, the transept, and the western nave, the latter including the throne, and the Court pageantry surrounding on the day of inauguration. In colouring, the three pictures are really exquisite, and will afford any one who has not already visited the Exhibition an idea of the excellence of the theory suggested by Mr. Owen Jones, the blue and yellow colour ing of the edifice itself being lit up by the scarlet hangings of the different compartments, the azure of the skies visible through the glass, and the green of the beautiful elm trees in the interior. From the circumstance of only half of the structure being portrayed at once, a rather faint notion is afforded of the extraordinary perspective of the building, a perspective that would task the powers of the most practised .artist to give it anything like an adequate representation. By the kind permission of the Queen these drawings, Which are the personal property of her Majesty, w il l remain on •view a few days longer at the establishment b a °ye Men from the sketches tione, and we are of gratifi M . Nash, will to find tat ver c facsimile engr av i ngs lished by the Messrs. Dickin s o n . y s hortly be pub- THE JEWELS, &C., AT THE CRYSTAL PALACB.--It is in some degree painful t o watch the eager, not to say covetous, gaze of the most beautiful Women upon the dia monds at the Exhibition, and no less SD to know that we cannot scramble these glittering baubles amongst them. We have nowhere witnessed this infatuation to a greater extent, and the police, under whose charge the caskets are placed, must form a strange notion of the mania, thus strongly ex hibited. In no other department of the v as t t reasures d oes this feeling manifest itself, excepting, perhap s , i n th at d evo t e d to the bonnets and head-dresses Here, however it assumes a more healthy t one. Admiration is allowed utte r ance and free vent. I n t h e former, desire was mute and hopeless, in the latter a valve had been provided by: the knowledge that any one porti on o f this coquettish head gear could be ob tained at Vyse's, on Ludgate -hill. CAPTAIN MILMAN'S NEW NOVEL, " ARTHUR CONWAY; or, Scenes in the Tropics," in 3 vols., is pub lished this day b y M essrs. Colburn and Co., and may be rat all the libraries. Also just published :2. The Hon. Mrs. Norton's new novel, " Stuart of Dunleath." 3 . Ralph Rutherford, a Nautical Romance, by the author of " The Petrel." 4. Caleb Field, a Tale of the Puritans, by the author of " Margaret Maitland," 1 vol. The following n ew works are just ready: 1. The English in America, by the author of "Sam,S ick," 2 vols. 2. Scenes from Scripture, by the Rev. G. Croly, LL D., I vol. 3. Clare Abbey, by the author of " The Discipline of Life. 4. The Lady and the Priest, by Mrs. Maberley. Brown, hen with the took out SOUTHAMPTON, JUNE 2.—The Great W estern , Royal Mail Company's le s f t , e a t m h ;a s h iapit Captain Br West India mails , 50 passengers, specie to the moult of 3,0001. a and a full miscellaneous cargo. / 5 - y z. - :Ff.\ 1 ~~.~ 17i COURT `'_':~ tr'l CIRCULAR. -:-•:, !7:7At' Her Mojeety and his Reyal Highness Priree A lbert . ./- "'eTe with the Princess Royal, accompanied by her Royal 7' ~; ::: t Highness the Duchess of Saxe Coburg Gothljoand his ; ''' . l;!; VI Royal Highness the Duke'L'recet of Wurterdberg, con- ezTl . e l 1 ,- ; tinued their inspection of the Works of liid.ustry of all e..' m te, - X Nations, at the Exhibition yesterday morning. In at- ' - - ----- tendance on the august party were, the lion. Mary Sey mour, Baroness de Wangeeheins, General Wemyss, and Col. Bouverie. The Queen arrived at half-past nine o'clock at the Exhibition, and remained till five minutes before eleven o'clock. The Prince of Wales and Prince Alfred, attended by Mr. Birch, also visited the Exhibi tion yesterday afternoon. a: a: The Queen held a Court at three o'clock inlhe after noon. Baron de Beust, Saxon Minister, had an audience of her Majesty to present his letters of recall from his Sovereign. His Excellency was introduced by Viscount Pslinerston, G:C.B.. the Queen' "principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, and conducted by Colonel the Hon. Sir Edwaid Cast, K.C.H., her Majesty's Master of the Ceremonies. Rene-Admiral Sir Edmund Lyons had an audience of the Queen, to take leave on his departure for Stockholm. as her Majesty's Envoy Extraordinary at' the court of Sweden. Sir Edmund was presented by.,yiscouct Pal merston. - The Queen was attended by Lord Dufferin, Lord in Waitine, and Sir Frederick Stovin, Groom in Waiting. His Royal Highness the Duke of Saxe Coburg Goths, attended by M. 13. de Treskow, went to Hampton Court yesterday morning, and inspected the Royal stud. The Queen and Prince Albert, with the Prince of Wales, Prince Alfred, and Prince Arthur, the Princess Royal, and the Princesses Alice, Helena, wedeLeuisa, ac companied by the D u k e an d Duchess ofs eeCobarg Grebe, and Duke Ernest of Wurtembe e eattended vby the Royal suite, left Buckingham alaceeektwelve t te e minutes netore four o'clock yesterday after/ Windsor Castle. Won, for Her Mejesty, Prince Albert, and the august circle were conducted to their carriages by the Master of the Horse, the Lord Chamberlaineethjt Marquis of Aber. corn, the Vice-Chamberlain, ;Viscount Clifden, and Colonel Anson. ,e . ~ He Majesty, Prince Albert', anti the-Royal Family, with their illustrious visitors, left the Palace in seven carriages; =escorted by a detachment of Lancers, and proceeded to the Paddington station of the Great Western Railway, where a special train was in readi ness to convey the august party to Windsor. WINDSOR, JUNE 2. . . . . ' Her Majesty and Prince Albert, accompanied by the Dtike and Duchess of Saxe Coburg Gotha and Duke Ernest of Wurtemberg, with the Prince of Wales, Prin ces Royal, Prince Alfred, the Princesses Alice, Helena, and Louisa, and Prince Arthur, and attended by the ttNiTaistcidouanti.,ass Jocelyn, Lady Caroline Barrington, Hon. Lieutenant -Colonel Hon, C etiond Mary Seymour, S B e . yr ,i3 o i u p r p3, , L c o o r l d on D el uff H er o i n. n, Charles Grey, Sir Frederick Stovin, General Wemyss, Colonel Bouverie, and Mr. Birch, and the Baroness de Wangenheim and M. B. de_Treskow in attendance on the Duke and Duchess of Sixo Cobeurg Gotha, arrived at the station of the Groat Western Railway this after noon. A guard of honour of the Grenadier Guards was on duty at the station. The Queen and Prince Albert and the august party proceeded to the Castle in seven carriages, where they arrived at a quarter before five o'clock, and were re ceived by the Master of the Household. His Royal Highness Prince _Henry of the Netherlands, attended by the Chevalier van Rappard, the Chevalier de Casembroot, and Captain May, arrived at the Castle at a quarter before six o'clock, on a visit to' the Queen and Prince Albert. Her Majesty and Prince Albert walked out in the Home Park atter their arrival from town; and the Royal Family were also cut in the grounds adjacent to the Castle. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge, attended by his Equerry in Waiting, is expected to arrive at the Castle, on a visit to her Majesty and the Prince. The Duke and Duchess of Norfolk and Lady Adeliza Fitz elan Howard, the Duke of Buccleuch, the Duchess of Sutherland and Lady Constance Leveson Gower, the Duke of Devonshire, the Duke of Newcastle, the Mar quis and Marchioness of Westminster, and Lady Octa via Grosvenor, the Marquis of Breadalbane, the Marquis of Abercorn, the Right Hon. Sir George and Lady Grey, and the Earl and Countess of Bessborough, are also ex pected to arrive on a visit. The Queen entertained her guests at dinner in the Waterloo Chamber, this evening. The Royal circleand invitations comprised his Royal Highness Prince Henry of the Netherlands, their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Saxe Coburg Gotha, his Royal Highness the Duke Ernest of Wurtemberg, the Duchess of Suther land and Lady C. L. Gower, the Duke and Duchess of Norfolk and Lady A. F. Howard, the Duke of Buccleuch, the Duke of Devonshire, the Duke of Newcastle, the Baroness do Wangenheim, the Marquis sad Marchioness of Westminster, and Lady 0. Grosvenor, the Marquis of Breadalbane, the Marquis of Abercorn, the Earl and Countess of Besaborough, the Right Mon. Sir George and Lady Grey, the Chevalier do Casembroot, the Che valier van Rappard, Captain May, M. B. de Treskow, and the Equerry of the Duke of Cambridge. The band of the Grenadier Guards attended and per formed in the Castle during dinner. General Weir...yes has, relieved Colonel the Hon. Charles Grey in his duties as Equerry in Waiting to the Queen. Colonel Bouverie has released Lieutenant- Colonel F. H. Seymour in his duties as Equerry in Waiting to his Roy al Highness the Prince Albert. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent left town at ten o'clock yesterday morning, for her residence, Frog more, near Windsor. The Royal Duchess was attended by the Lady F..nny Howard, the Baroness de Speth, and Sir George Coun.r. His Serene Highness the Prince of Leiningen, left Clarence House in the afternoon, fir Frogmore. A deputation from the Commission of Sewers had an interview with Sir George Grey yesterday, at the Home ctice. The deputation consisted cf llir. Peto , M.P., Sir H. De la Beebe, Capt a i n D awson, Sir J.Burgoyne, Viscount Ebrington, M.P., Mr. Hard ivicke, Mr. Stephen son, M.P., Mr. Rendel, Mr. Lswes, and Mr. Woolrycb, secretary to the Commission. Mr. John Wilson Patten, M.P., and Mr. Gregory, attending as a deputation from Preston, had an interview yesterday with th© General Board of Health, at their office, Whitehall. A deputation from the directors of the London Mis sionary Society bad an interview yesterday w i t h Lord John Russell, at his official residence in -Downing -street. The deputation consisted of Sir Edward Buxton, Bart., M.P., Mr. Peto, M.P., Mr. Hindley, M.P., Mr. Harris, M.P., Mr. Heald, M.P., Mr. Evans, M.P., Mr. Kershaw, Mr. Piper, and the Rev. Dr. Tid man and the Rev. J. J. Freeman, secretaries to the society. Mr. John O'Brien, Mr. Gould, and Mr. John O'Connell had an interview with the Right Hon. H. Laboneher• yesterday, at the Board of Trade. Dispatches were received yesterday at the Colonial office from the Governor of the Canadas, and the Go vernors of the other North American colonies. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATTERSALL'S.—YESTERDAY. QUEEN'S VASE (ASCOT). 4 ti 1 agst Lord Watertord's Monica colt—taken 5 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Little Jack ASCOT STAKES. 9 to 0 agst Sir J. ilawley's Vatican—taken 7 to 1 agst Mr. C. Formby's Ballet Girl 8 to 1 agst Mr. Batsoo's Abderhaman 10 to 1 agst Mr. Gratwicke's Cheerful—taken 10 to 1 agst Mr. Stephenson'a Ninua The betting on this event was too flat to call for remark. EMPEROR'S PLATE (ASCOT). 7 to 4 agst Mr. H. Combe's Trouncer 5 to 2 agst Mr. Maugan's Russborough—taken At one time 3 to 1 %as currently offered agst RUSS. borough, but ou its transpiring that he was on his way to Ascot, ho found supporters at 5 to 2. THE NEW SCARES, to 4 agst Lord Eghnten's Brother to Elthiron 3 to 1 agst Col. Peel's Queen An n co l t 4 to 1 agst Mr. J. Clark's Elcot The above were the nominal quotations; little or nothing was done. THREE YRS OLD TRIENNIAL. 5 to 4 agst Lord John Scott's Misaerima ST. LEGER. 15 to 1 agst Mr. Gratvvicke's Exeter—taken 1,000 to 70 agst Mr. H. Hill's Mountain Deer—we" 16 to 1 agst M DERBY. r. J. Clark's Elcot 20 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Brother to taken and afterwards offered umps _ Tramps —taken 25 to 1 agst Mr. Harrison's King of Tnr colt taken 33 to 1 agst Colonel Peel's Queen4n , ,_. . n t freely 40 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's d i is Ilomehrewed— Elthiron—. 40 to 1 agst Duke of . Richmon taken freely i s Maidstone—taken and 40 to 1 agst Mr. Gratwicke_ afterwards offered ir , r RACES. ASCOT HEA T S Gave been forw ar d e d The following a dditional entries ;15 us:— FIRST DAY. The Trial Stakes—Russborough, 4 yrs (71bs xtrs). SECOND DAY. 5 yra—King ph alli . ,v...... 4„ ing l:ll 3 e y Q n en's Fla te — TH l :D sa D w A a Y y: naJW.—ou‘..:' 171 St a nd Plate—Vasa , 5 y rs. .77 4 ..: * 4 70/. Plate—Latindrymaid. 4 4til We are authorised to state that Buckhound ardos n for the Royal Hunt Cup. Ban should have been i ncluded in the lot Sir 471 ru The H aw l e y will have at Ascot. The races commence this day at half-past one. The Corporation of the City of London, with their accustomed munificenc e , i ntend, we understand, to give all the clerks at the Mansion -house and the Guildhall, and also all the officers i n their service, an opportun ity of viewing the interior of th e Crystal Palace and of foreign and E nglish manufactures. For this purpose, we o e g orgeous display believe, they h ave resolved to iv • e them all a holiday, and to present eac h of their clerks with a guinea in lieu of a ticket of admission; but as the Public business would be interfered with by giving them all leave of absence on thy same day, it has been arranged that each one shall take his turn, so that not more than three or four may be absent at one time. TH E NEW ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH COMPANIBS.—.. Yesterday—the Hon. L. Corry. in the chair—the preambles of the United Kingdom Electric Telegraph Company, of the Magneto -Electric Telegraph Company, and of the European and American Panting Telegraph Company (the objection. able clauses opposed by t he railwa y companies in t h e latter instance being withdra wn ) wer e declared p roved . The Bills of the Submarine Electric Telegraph Company be:. tween England and France and England and Ireland were withdrawn, . '