The Sun. — London, England, 1851-07-15 00:00:00

- THE SU N. .14 ic) N 1..) 0 “ N 5 . - 7IIE GREAT EXHIBITION. THE AR . C ,„ T s lC frorn EX th P e number of visitors to the Great Exaibtion yes- 1 By the latest ._ E Un D ite l d T Tte N s,. we i The following is the official statement of the quantities cf • i seas fully equal to the usual average. The numbers ; learn that the position . and . wants of the Arciio ships I corn, &e., received in the port of London from the ports ha . • ee the day were-- lin search of the iong-missing expedition of Sir Essex, from the 7th July, 1851, to the 12th July, lesl, as itsreta 10 t 0 11 intereat, and that step are being take to intro s• sl , , 11 to 12 duce a measure to Congress, in l)ecemb-r next, for cs et' •• t . = 12 to 1 the equipment of a steam-boat for Behring, Straits, with .0 s s , 01l ai 4) . ,-. in 1 tot ... ..• the v.eiv of advancing from that direction to the relit f w 2 to 3 of Franklin, or of the allied searching squadron. It Colchester --..' ....... -- --e-- - ......seee. _i _ e ,.. 1 e.. , L• c may be in the recollecti o n of some of our readers . , Total number of visitors who had Leigh ) 2o b that in April last we mentioned the probabi OOO • '7B ---- passed in at three o'clock ......... 53 - 878 3119 it Tee bays of the Duke of York's School were among lity of such a msasure, and we rejoice at this nearer Malden 450 34 ..... 700 _ a were acoompa- prospect of the fulfilment of our anticipations , the esrltest visitors yesterday. They nied by their juvenile band, which stationed itself round It remains to be seen whether our own shor t " Cnn-msrofte, JOLT in—Prices to-day were as follow: 'I the esystal fountain, and played several airs in a fi • rst- comings m . ity not e pi • tesent to our spirited allies Wheat, white, old —, to —, ; new 42s to 48s; re e d v , ah old e res . e .Lyle . /heather feature in the day which excited the necessity of doing the rest of . our . work h ---istto.--sa;; nizerwin,di3nBgs t200e4t20. 2 ; 6bsar;leoya,ts—issitoto-25_si;;cmh.1.1_t 53 er , fi b geeta, attention was a beautiful addition to the attrsc• for us also, by effecting a communication wit to 555; chevalier 5 , 4 s to 56e; peas, opaLtsridge old, 31.; old, new t 2 084 s tn Ii ei ot the cryst a l fountain, consieting of the motto, the searching ' ships from the eastern side—a measure .p 29 —s-- 2c;:s t "GA bless the Q u een," traced out in fresh roses, plant -d of still more importance than the other. We are p„,,- T-uini the basin e t .he fountain in a bed of moss. Mr. suaded *rest the interest felt in the subject in the United to , 5 0 , . b — eer s t.ow:icsk;s,wnheitwe, 27 n! 5 w, t0 27 3 . 0 t s .; Old ; —1 to —e; ma- I t dun, new, 27s to &is; beans, tick, new 2bs to a ; old, D aid F erguson , of Aylesbury, was the artiste. The States will receive additional stimulus by the know- l e z l d . - - W s h t e o a — t, w e per e i t e r recent circumstances and facts qr. 6red 40 1 viel'ere were-composed principally of the working ledge of those more b 1 "44 to 27e ; beans, mazagan 27s to 30s; midrib ci isit•eS, as is usually the case on Saint Monday. which we have lately brought forward. For, if the to 4ss ; se ey •- zag co an 1. , ennewx:rtszt,o fa.% ---••••"'""''''''''--"--- arguments were sound which we used a few months and small 30. to 335; peas, grey 28s to 30s, dun 28. to 308 SIR JAMES BROOKE. since, when the question of sending a steamer perpcturit.Tii, into Barrow Straits was brought at an unlucky Imo- JULY 11.—Wheat, old, Os Od to Cs Od; ditto, c new, 41s to 4.5 s ; barley, new, 23s ed to 26. Id; oats, 15e to , Two years ago Miss Mertireau completed a "History the Thirty Year,' Peace." In that went before the House of Commons , to be 18s ; peas and beans, *As Od to 328 per quarter. Oatmeal, Of E itgland dur in g smothered by a few flimsy assumptions to which To' , t original produ c ion our Ees ' ern p olic y receives, as the forms of debate did not admit of rep l y , how much per sack, 34e to 365. Beawicit, JULY 10.—Wheat, 43. llid ; barley, 2 4 1 8d ; 1 tit e s t be conj ectured, no ver y com p limentar y review. have they been enhanced by recent facts? We refer to oats, 00s Od; rye, uos Od ; beans, 00. Od; peas, tOs Od l Oue Indian doings ar e e q uivocal ; our Chinese wars de- the failure of Commander Pullen—to the revelatio n lately average per imperial quarter. ~,..„1,., tale. One little spot of light redeems alone the ma de with an much di s ti n ct n e s s o f the existence an d i - STIPA•II I c, JULY 11 . —Wheat, foreign, 00 s to ()Cs; ditto, dal kneee of the tsetse, and this salutary brightness ghm- bable position of a cairn left by Sir John Franklin' s home, 2 6 1s to 9 s d h ; e _ s ditto ditto new; '2os Od to zas 6d; barley, per we re frem the coast of Borneo. Unlike conquerors or party—and lastly, a n d s till more, to the ro o - i b o o ats, f co ar, 0 1 4. 0 0 s d ad to t ( oxiOss.Odd;ittdoittnoewnew14IsSL " to to 1 2 5T 0 6 d d : tra-iera, with no view but the improvement of his kind, bability of the whole Arctic squadron belngn they relied ditto, Flemish, P Os Od to Os Od; ditto ditto ' new, 00.0 d; malt, ' 5 .d little aid but tram his own resource., an Eng lish a deposit of stores and provisieus, °on whichoteer misfortune, distillers, 331 Od to 35s ; ditto brewers, 35s Od to 375; beans get. l , : man, Brooke by tiarne, had proceeded to Sarawak, its case of losing one of their ships, ' r n Lancaster Sound. per boll, 00s Od to 60e Od; ditto new, 15.6 d to 19.0 d; pease 16, and was there successfully eegsged in extirpating having been left by the North Star i . Od to Oes Od; flour, new per sack, 33s to 34s Od; ditto common 1 piracy, reclaiming savages from barbarism, and in- This as,ertion may require farther explanation. ditto, 19s Od to 2ls odl oatmeal, per load, 00s Od to 0 Is Od: tte,ductug the ideas of civilised life among the roving It appears that, ou meeting Captain Penny in Lan- eNer hSar hl ditto new 34s Od to 35s 6d; ditto per peck of 71bs, It to I Id; tribe• of the Archipelago. What Miss Martineau be- caster Sound, the commauder of th i . t ., , . • fresh butter, per Ib, 7d to 9d; eggs, per dozen, 7d to 8d ; lite•ed it is natural to suppose the red of the world Saunders, received supple mentary orders requiring him hay, Kerne, per ton, 75s to 77e 6d; ditto, Dryfield, 00s to 745. weuld believe too; bad they did so. Mr. Brooke won to land his cargo (which, it will be remembered, had KxLso, JULY 11.—Wheat, old, 00. tu 00s ; ditto, new, 30v the good opinions of hie uountry men and the patronage b. en sent out the previous year fur the purpose to 373 Od ; barley, new, 20. Od to 22. Od ; ditto old, Os to Os; of (;overt meat. He was made Knight, Governor, and of re -provisioning Sir • James Ross s' ships, and ar- potato oats,oos to 00s ; ditto new, 17. Od to 19s 03 ; common Cuu l•universal se , was field up to admiration, and ho- resting the return of the Investigator) at oats 00s Od to Oes Od; ditto new, 16. to 17s Od ; peas 25e 00 ta ud, on the east side of Davis Straits to We Od; beans, 25s to 26. tel per boll of six imperial bushels. buil, el with general esteem; when suddenly a cloud Disco ls risk a farther detention. Mr. Saunders HAwICL, JULY 10.—Wheat, new, 30. Od to 349; barley. appeared on the horiz in, whispers get abroad, dark rather t ha n 3 • tato oats to perceive that the (that of new , lia i se s were exuhaneed, cearges gradually took a definite was unable . , contingency 2 sto e2s Od ; ditto OOl Od to 00s 0, po 17s to 18s 6el ; common oats, 16. lid to 18. Od ; peas, 22. oe his not having crossed to the west side) upon which shpt:, end on Thursoay evening this popular hero was to 24s Od ; beans,. 23s Ud to 24s Od per boll • imperial of six virtually arraigned betura the Commend of England. the have been framed orders must no longer existing, bushels. bound to throw aside this reference and h --- ; e as a ruthless exterminator of his race ter the sake of he was KIKrALDr, JuLY 12.—The' fon - awing . are the quotations gsmni, "rho House, to bs sure, decided by a majority ot not only was not moved by the arguments brought f or grain :- 230 I. and forward by Captain Penny, but even 'rejected Wheat. ;Rarley. Oats. Beans. Peas. 230 against 19 that the accusation was inali g"nerued, his fe, and iu so far, therefore, as fair trial is cense . offer to stop for the purpose of assisting First 48s Od 2te ad 27s Od —s Od I—s Od the reion him to land the provisions. Ca tarn Penny was coin- eecond 4is 03 25s 93 25. 61 —s Od I—s Od the ca.e has been conclusively removed from 4 of dieoussion. But there undeubtedly eseete an ' opinion pelted to pursue his voyage under the impression that Third 4ls Od 24. o e , 23s 01 —8 Od I --s 00 kind presumed Mr. Saunders would wend his back to Oatmeal, tier ba. of 28010. imperial, 34s Od to 36s Od. out ot doors," though not exactly of the . • , • actually way HADDINGTOW, JULY 11.—Thit.following are the prices of hi, Mr. Cobden, and 0 this opinio n the question may be Disco, and thus place the formidable barrier of the Middle . our 0f respect to the Sea between the searching squadron and the ine.stimably grain at our market to-day : once more briefly carried, ouch 0 character Wheat. I B a eley. I Oats. Beans. tritsurtal, and in consideration of the singularprecious freight which should nave been at their comment!. , First 46s 63 303 03 I 263 93 36s 03 of the etory. Aft& r the departure of Capt. Penny, Mr. Saunders was in- James Brooke, after beln Second 4' lOd I 26 3 gct 1 25a 23 3,3 s lOd Toe charges against Sir g duced to act upon the advice he had so strongly urged; but [bird ... .. 37e Od I 234 Od I2?e bd 29s Od blOti . d according to conve- we severl times shined and di-sse" .repeat that Captain Penny, through whom alone it Total quantity of Wueat in market 240 qrs., 240 sold Ireduced subs-antiai y • by Mr. isienoe, w.re at length could be made known to the other ships if he tell ir, Do. Barley do. 24 qrs., 24 sold that Sir James had, on the night w i t h threes to the allegation any of them, is unable to make any such commis Do. Oats do. 122 qrs., 94 sold and d • d . o r Lin 3 " t ot J u ly, 1849, attacked destroyed cer- nication ;so that the deposit alluded to might as well Do. Beans do. 46 qrs., 19 sold Dysee crews on t .he assumption that ti—Cheese • 33s to 341 Od tAiti boats carnytesig never have left Woolwich, for anything the Arctic ships GLASOOw, JULY 9.—Provision . . . ,_. _ niratee, such assumption being unwarranted r cwt • retail, 5d to 6d per lb. Skim milk, 20sura to Os per iii.-y were e- probably know about it. We must deeply regret the: pe 1.. ) tease , e•ne question, teetee.ati, turucd on the pi- st,Xiety of tee Admiralty to hurry home their ship l': tr trash butter, I , 'd to its Od per .kl 3. Irish pow cwt. _out' y reeo ,i or bon-teratical mares, •r ot the vessels attacked, siniuld have led to this, now perhaps irretrievable, " h 1 I Bid dared, in lumps, ed tottad; country powdered, IN 0 esa e, and a eery strange qa.eition it was. In iof point fact , blunder. to Od. Country eggs, rid per dozen ; carried hen ditto, 4. 103 if .... s et aside presumption, arid discard fur the occa- per 120, or 6d per dozen. Hens, 2. led p er p a ir ; Ducks, A few mon'hs may or may not throw light upon this 2, (id . sio i u :he ntormation drawn from the v e ry psrriea tut- end other suhj cis, but if we should not hear anythii g F ALKIRK , JULY 10. —The supply of grain in te\is day's peauhed, the evidence before us, both on one side a, d the teem Captain Austin this a utumn, ou r G overnme nt will market was 150 bolls; wheat at 20s 6d to 22s 3d per' boll ; O LII 1, is of the scantiest description. Of the island of find itself compelled to pay the realty of former barley, Otis ad to Ms Od ; oats, 18.03 to Otis Od; beans, Os 63 B ,rust we know about us much as of the great planet oeelect and resistsuce, bs having to double the meat a to Zes Od per boll ; oatmeal, Os to Os per load. w e e s habir. Cer ant points or its coast and surface have and , xpencitture which would now suffice to communicate - COAL MARKET.— YESTXRDAT. beeti*XvoirlPd, but its netelior r e mai n s a my s tery. Only with the searching squadron, in order to meet an emer- date's West Hartley.. 12s 90 Lumley the week the Btittsh As s oci a tion can been engaged gency which the tepee of another season may have in• dhester Main l2. 6d itussell's Hatton in V-1311)ing an additional fact or two reseec.ieg its crease d ten f o ld.— Ch, onicle. Stole well be. teseaetera cutiti:uretitee and in speculating on fledhugh Main ..• lls Ou Scarborough l3s Or tee chances of ditcovering within it communities SING UL AR A lag US PII 6 - ItIC P H ENO .11ENON :infield Moor ..5...... 12e 9d Denison vo.kaursu to our geographers. An inquiry, it ere- "THE SPECTRE Or THE IiaOCKEN" IN SCOTLAND. West 1Y lam tore, into the cogniz.ble h.sbits ot cerium 01 its tribes following Wall's End &c. Hartlep00l —The remarkable phenomenon, perhaps ac ' ui Lies prueeed upon slender teetim , ny•, and to assert a acorn Close bee sine upon e ttist - point is obviously aenest impossible. . , unprecedented iu this country, was witnessed by a Eden Ant erdiegly, we tied that Mr. Hume's evidence, even highly- respectable aridintelligent farmer in the neigh- tiestorth le-eyed 1.1 Inc must f a vourable light, amount. to nothiug g over a Welkin 11 buurhood of Hawick. hill on his Morrison us +«? 10411 the cumulative assertions of four or live in - farm earl y on the morning of the 13th of May laat, Walker Eden Main ....-. ...... 13- 3d Maclean's Teas l2s 6 vivid:ea!, that they have never persunatly kno w n an y his attention was arrested by a light cloud of pale Lambton Primrose ... 13s 6 ,- Seymour 'lees ...... te , a .eal (Ling: of the communities in que.tion—these mist of remarkable form, being perfectly circular, Belmont 135 Os rees ...... .......... .... 14 3 el t .rseas and Oak man. One man only ceulet pl, ad a slowly uprising from the neighbouring valley. The Braddyll co.o,,ereet expert() -no of their habits, and that man was sun was shining brightly around him from the other eaten Sir James Biouke him-elf. side, and as the cloud gradually floated up, still re- Elaswell l 4, 60 Cardiff ............. 2le 0 fussing to what is within our knowledge, we can put tabling its form, which was v lake that of ery togetner the following fact:: —Bay cud all queetion the Ships at market ,83 ...Sold, 64. halo often observed round the moon, he found it pre e...t& ot Borneo swarm with pirates—either natives or sent an inner much circle smaller, but well defined, revers. The whole Archipelago has been infested with SEABOLtNE MAILS. teeat time out of mind; treaties have been ar- and containing, as in a frame, a human figure of most EN signifies that the mails are sent teons the General Postestee, ra iged between powerful states for their de colossal proportions. Instead of standing aghast in se the night—and Mby the morning—ltspatch.) et rue:Aon, and the suppression of this inveterate the mute amaze of motionless horror, as many would When made up in From what when pue• Lot was the principal arid most overt duty have done, he saluted the spectre with a bow, which PLACES. :General Post-othce port di,- due, as- owed by Sir J. 13rouke in - his mission. He was returned by the airy phantom with the utmost _ — ceeteantly declared that the one great impediment promptitude and civility. He then walked away for I to u vilization in these parts was the prectice of piracy, a little, and, on returning, found the shadow still vi - America (by Brit. pkt.)N July 1$ .. ..ILiverpeel .. July 20 a .1 ebet toe extirpstiou of piracy must be the one great sible, which continued to bow and otherwise imitate AmericaAmarica (by yy U.S. p it?) (I T July july ' 1 2 5 2 ... • ... l ru e t r h P°d'i pt: lj u u l l y y 24 17 utiject of any European estaotisbesent. Nothing of every motion he made, thus proving it to be a reflec- Africa (West coast).. N 14th of the m . onth Plymouth Aug. 3 trii,,ls denier; but it is alleged that the people in tion of his own form in the cloud. This appari- rrg.,""dria* .......• I l i i 19th l & 30th of mo. Dover uver ... Jut b y IS q tes t ate were not pirates, or that at any rate they were tion is identical in appearance and cause with the Beriazil um :: 7. :. Id 9th , ' f . the month Southampt. Aug. t 2 nut the pirates of previous history. A German once .9th of , he month Southampt. Aug.l2 wrete a book to prove that Heiner was not Homer, famous "Spectre of the Bracken," with, perhaps, t c te i tr e .t.Yrvs -••Ai . • . , 1 rni (viaCha.gres)M 2d &17th ot month southampt. July 20 er that, if he were Homer, he was some other Homer, the additional beauty of the enclosing circles, which Cape of Good Hope N 14th of month Plymouth - Aug. a anti not the Homer generally understood. In like we nowhere find recorded in the accounts of the constantLeoplev .... N 7th 17th 27t of mo Dover .. July 20 central America .. M'24 & 17th ohmon. Southampt. July 20 manner it is argued that Sir James Brooke's German travellers. Of course, owing to the great Channel Isles .. .. N Mon., Wed., & Fri. Southampt. Tn. Tk.S a pirates were only pira•ee, if pirates at all, of some ano- difference in altitude, and the vast extent of that Chili .. .. . M 17th of the mouth Southampt. July 20 maloue and inoffensive description, and undoubtedly reflecting surface of Harsian mist, it will be deficient (reel* ..." .. 31 .. 1k If 7th l i c 7 e t d ri a 2 l 7 l3; h;f ii,;(:; lo o v v e e r r .... j zi;s 2 e n ete nut the genuine pirates of the Archipelago consigned by in magnitude to our Germanic ghost. It is a little Ilamburgh ... .. N Tuesday & Friday 'London .. Tues. Sat. common consent to destruction. As we have already curious and worthy of mention that the celebrated Liolland .. .. .. id : Wednes. & Satur. London .. Mes.Tktr rema , ked, the question is somewhat intricate. Touch• travellers, M. J L. Jordan and M. Hane, the former Ireland .. ... Ai . Nil7th i of the mouth r eouthampt. July 20 inn the differences or identity, ethnologically speaking, , In re di sa a & ala'w ce daily .. .. Holyhead - 1 wicedail) of whom ascended the mountain of the Brocken i (via sOuthampO 31,20 th of the inonthSoutharapt. July 43 Of elaleye and Dyaks, we have Mr. Menckton Milnes twelve times for the b - "- purpose of o serving the famous , India (viaMtu-sellles) N.7th& 24th ofmonth l Dover .. July 16 (It untt side, and Mr. Cobden on the other; but, even if editerranean (vie spectre, and the latter no less than thirty times, were De a,ks be not Malay, we nave the deposition of a real Southampton) .. M 20th of the month Southampt. July 23 Melay (to 2leat quantum) that the It) ski were every ,s e . a esenterninean (via I each rewarded for their trouble about Whitsuntide , xi illeo . .. N 7th&24thofmonth Dover .. July 16 bit, a. piraecel as ininselt. It is not denied, however, season of the year corresponding with that at which - mexico .. .: .. M 24 of the month.. Southampt. Aug. 5 of these e communities of Seiebes and Sakerran,"—the the above interesting phenomenon was witnessed.— queer; .. .. .. 31,9 th of the month Southampt. Aug. !! veritaule icuiteduals attacked—that their habits are, to Berwick Warder. malts,' „ „ 2,1- 7th,lth9tlt,27th Dover July 15 C &aeto or month say the least, enstigreeeble and peculiar. Whatever Naples. .. .. .. N sth 15th2hth of mo Dover .. 'Jul 21 they way do at sea, they are perpetually at war upon CALEDONIAN RAILWAY PLEASURE P , ap a l States* .. .. N sth 15025th of rao Dover .. Julyl 22 hied. Whatever weapons they may want, they have EXCURSION. , eninsular .. .. M 7th 17th 27th of mo Southampt. ;Arrived Peru • • •• •• .. 51 17th ul tho month southamot. IJuly 20 eneugh, at at.y ra'e, to cut 01 the heads withal of any On Friday morning this railway company gave a Tuscany* .. .. .. N sth 15th25th of mo Dover •• I July 22 neiehoours they may catch, and these ab,cineled members 1 • ,vest tunes .. .. M 17th of the moath Southampt . ; July 50 pteasure trip to their servants, accompanied by their ~,, Le. y Have an ugly fektion of smoking and curing. More- west Indies (except wives and eweethearts. in all to the number of 1,500 . , Havanna & Nassau) M2d of the month - Southapapt. Aug. 5 3 4. 1 . ; -; 4. 4 8, al 4 :=4 © ----- Colchester ._ i „... 1 . .... ..... Harch ... . ) 20 Leigh3ll9 78 Maldon 459 3 ..... 7,x) l'aesieg to what is within our knowledge, we can put together the following fact::—Beyond all question the co..ta 01 13orned swarm with pirates—either natives or rovers. The whole Archipelago has been infested with teeas time out of mind; treaties have been ar raeged between powerful states far their de ruotion, and the suppression of this inveterate pue• eat was the principal arid most overt duty as, toned by Sir J. Bruuke in ; hie mission. He celesta - tidy declared that the one great impediment to a vilizatiun in these parts was the practice of piracy, a ef diet tee extirpation of piracy must be the one great object of any European estapiishe3ent. Nothing of tt,is'is denier; but it is alleged that the people in q ies t i e i t were not pirates, or that at any rate they were not the pirates of previous history. A German once wrote a book to prove that Heiner was not Homer, or that, if he were Homer, he was some other Homer, anti not the Homer generally understood. la like manner it is argued that Sir James Brooke's pirates were only piratee, if pirates at all, of some ano malous and inoffensive de.cription, and undoubtedly not the genuine pirates of the Archipelago consigned by common consent to destruction. As we have already rema , ked, the question is somewhat intricate. Touch• inn the difference or identity, ethnologically speaking, of Alalays and Dyaks, we have Mr. Menckton Mines on one side, and Mr. Cobden on the other; but, even if Desks be not Malays, we nave the deposition of a real (usleat quantum) that the ll)aki were every bit as pitch:el as inceself. It is not denied, however, of these " communities of Seiebes and Sskerran,"—the veritaule inuividuals attacked—that their habits are, to say the least, disagreeable and peculiar. Whatever th.ey may do at sea, they are perpetually at war upon hied. Whatever wespons they may want, they have eneugh, at sty rate, to tut tel the heads withal of any ueiehoours they may catch, and these ab,cinfied members th; y have an ugly feehion of smoking and curing. More ovee, they must certainly take to their boats sometimes, f it WAS in their boats that they were overtaken; but e.e are assured that there is no evidence to connect their Via er expeditions with any tut unexceptionable objects. `To t they are pure savages and practicel cannibals every beefy aflowa, tint they were nut " pirates;'' tiointeg so respectable—not up to any such mark, as Mr. Urqu hive very naively put it. Why, tnen, ohould they be ate:: with so summarily ? The argument of Sir James Brooke's accusers, either expressed or implied, avers that he treated these people as pirates in order to rid himself of troublesome neigh. hours. They disturbed his sAtti'mEnt, twerted his Lio. vet omen!, Lad plundered his subjects. In a regular war after Buraean fashion they might have eltried his pursuit, if net overmastered ni3 tortes ; co he made them term*, fur the nonce, eniisted on his aide the ter 'ltd., resources of steam arid powder, caught them iu their prenue, pounded the in into cerrien with grapeshot, and thud i,ettlei the Weir out of band. This is the !Lad bite [refit or his aq•ged offending, and, as none knows Su well as he whether they were pirates or not, so no where but in his owe conscience can he find a conclusive acquitter. For ourselves, we ere left to gripe fir evi "hce in comparative darkness. The two cobfl,cting 11 "4 1 .onsla from Singapore residents show that the ,i,uestion, even there, wa4 made wholly one of party le. ling. Tia,, negative testimonies on one aide we may allow fur argumen rake to be set against the positive ti btELOllieS entire s tome of ti the other, but w e do n u t s e e h o w it is to be det t ecel th a t th e presumptioq is in Sir Jewee's lay, ur. I. i ' 9 , hewha:. singular that no one tnotight ot asking ;or what pacific purpose these people w, r.. assumed to be at sea in n body. Whether or net, they were confessedly !dandy-minded "pirates whether or nut they would have boarded a vessel, they iie Id queetienatrilyn not have they i chance ot a sate 11181 eeire; wheth r would h wand against a Keg, they valeuld notorioual m e With san d es s h; t hhd views, n Fir tight within reach of their knYlvescut any throat therefore, did they put to sea by cheer sweat preautasption is it argued that those whose whole o I,!t, oil land is one ot war and butchery, eecordieg to their „ ne e:el:wane, should be metamorphosed . c e e ee when they set out on a cruise, 1 , 1 h s omething more than p robability has this whole 941 ion bee n traced to what may be either the con nity of a bet. minus outapeaking or the privat e „ wiz , amiss, mare We tug own opini ons on t h e Lave uu7 el,ernative stiggP st "' t thin is not the questio n w ith which.the public are c oncerned. The ch arge against Sir Jain .8 Brooke has bee n overtly made,and it is upon the ev et ,,,, ce. adduced t h a t a judgment is to be f orme d . 1.44 ' cannot doubt that the conclusion of Every twe et ," mind will concur with the de e i s i o - „ t " s `' Misuse. If there is iueutficient evidence to ut i°'''iate that the expedition attacked bad been p i ra . tweet, " ee' a gaged the absence of s uch p roof is no more the n nrr,t U r sx under the circumstances. and the probabilitie s 'lnt! ~ho l ly • Piracy is no toriously ttid , in favorer of the assumption. exereletton clai med 1.0 these" particular " breath of these islanders' lives, nor is any commu reties, except r systetnatizs their incapacity to to kill and the ground of these undoubted propensities hr.e.l. Tuey could nu t, il murder to such pert, talon; 11i we are told, carry oU and Y might du a little killing l to curingin neighbo ur - 1 the tactics of Chi nun ,Y r :"3 , but they were unequa licete diecrirefeatt en of butche r y tin Such is t oe de watch Sir James Broolie'e utc-h ' rY on the strength of Zevtleearned renown was to be commteted for ;perpetual h.re said, admits of ku,,wa r"e". The attempt, as we. a explanation, nor need the lupport it experienced We verily believe that if od ist e i t:atter of surprise. 'P Usher were nue' liu ng, and a discarded servant accused him of cruel' u.etnetu, t lie inthterhaps nine ') tog Hied.° f,,r daily peculiarity charge would find backers in England,a Leers votes iu the Rouse of Commons. of sentiment has its edvedt,igea in the atten cures l e every posef i ble grievanc e o f I, it S e' C sundaeses in) rise r s under our rule, but we need go no furth er t h an Ft td y's re port In discover the extrav agance , into which it may he hurried by concerted agitation and secret laf e ite.— 7 sees. On Friday morning this railway company gave a plea-ure trip to their servants, accompanied by their wives and sweethearts, in all to the number of 1,500, as far as Edinburgh. Tne train started from Greenock about hal - •past five, and arrived in Edinburgh at 20 minutes past 10. On the way they had an addition at Glasgow of three carriages, making in all 31, which were all beautifully festooned with flowers and decorated with flags. Having arrived at Edinburgh each took his several way—some to visit the Castle and its environs, and others to see the preparations that were the , . being made for the teetotal reception on the following day at the Queen's Parks, not for getting to ascend the lamed Arthur's Seat, and obtain a drink of pure water from St. Anthony's well. Many others made still further pro gress by making exit from the romantic city, visiting Hadd in gton, Dolkeith, Lssswada, Portobello, arid Newhaven, thence to Bruntis land. One piny, at least, traversed the whole of this ground, and returned again to Greenock the same evening—so much for railway travelling now-a days. About tour o'clock the fair city's streets were again crowded by the visitors, and before six (tile hour for starting) matey of them were very ill prepared for setting off, not having seen all their eyes would fain have feaa'ed upon. The hour having, however, ar rived, a few were rather behind. We were pleased to see the great good humour that was displayed through out the whole day. The immense train having reached Carstairs Junction, a vacation of ten minute' was allowed for recreation, where there was a good demand for lemonade and not a little for the " ardent," but the place being " teetotal" they could find none to quench the unibating thirst. It was rather amu sing to see the many tumblers of water that were fetched by the more gallant to their lair partners, more especially being met by some who wished to share the spoil before reaching the destined aqua drinkers. The train then moved off and reached Greenock at half-past ten P.M., and we are sure all were delighted with their day's excursion, and at the same time thankful to the Caledonian Railway Com pany, and to the management of Mr. Symington and his assistants, for the kindness of the one and the care of the latter. Such excursions as this cannot but be conducive to the interest of the company, by creating a good feeling between employers and employed.— North British Mail. • The mails to those c , rench racket vi.Marsei (2d of the month .. ountries thus mar illes and from Callforni lue by every Amer! gouthavapt. I Aug. 5 Led (*) are conveyeit C A_LIYORN IA SIRS to %re now despatched and d la. via the United state• Ican packet. RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. BRIS tst)L, JULY 14. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The share market ruled extremel3 flat today, and, consequently. but few transactions toot plan•, nor have we any variation to note on our late quo. tations LIVERPOOL, JULY 14. mrocic Excaamie..—The share market is again worse, and prices are lower, with scarcely any business doing. The transactions were as follow :—East Lancashire, 14 k.—Lan cashire and Yorkshire, 4 t —Di t to, Fifths, dis.—Caledonian 10% London and North-Western, 121% Ditto, New Quarters, 331, p.—Manchester. Sheffield, and Lincolnshire. z 7 1.4 —Midland, 42 , 4 Ditto, Halves, 40 1 4 dis.— South-East ern and Dover, 22—York and North Midland, 18fi. MANCHESTER, JULY 14 STOCK Exclisnos.—The share market has been ti tit to day, and prices 1 rwer. The transactions were as fallow:-- -East Lancashire, 14 5 16 Lancashire and Yorkshire (Preston and Wyre), 43'4 —London and North-Western, N e w Quarter& 3% p —Ditto, Manche ster an d Bi rm i ng h am , Quarters (C), 2 Ip. South- Eaats en a nd Dover, BIRMINGHAM, JULY 14.: STOCK FX(JFIAstot.— The share market continues weak, with very little b ?3iness doing. The transactions to-day were altogether unimportant. TFSTIMONIAL TO HIS GRACE Tile DUKE OF RICHMOND —The great exertions to procure a distribution of medals to the surviving heroes of the Peninsular, &c., wars, made by his Grace the Duke of Richmond, have in duced a subscription for a testimonial, which has been pre sented to the Noble Du,e. The whole, a most admirable work of art, has been completed by Messrs. Hunt and Roskell, and is of massive silver. The design exhibits a qua drangular pedestal, on the summit of which is an allegorical group representing the Duke directing the attention of Bri tannia to the merits of her military and naval powers. The Duke Is in the costume of a peer of the realm, having in his left hand the memorial to her Majesty, while with his right lie directs the attention of Britannia to the fiture of Mars and Neptune. In the hands of Britannia is the war medal which she is about to distribute. At the angles of the pedes tal are grouped military and naval trophies, between which are panels containing, first, an appropriate in cription ; second, the interview of his Grace with her Majesty in relief, his Royal Highness Prince Albert standing on the left of her Majesty ; third a , d fourth, the names of the engagements in which the troops we - e engaged to whom medals have been given. On the base are four groups, viz , two military, the first conisting of a Light Dragoon dismounted, Light Infantryman, a Riflleman, a British Grenadier, and a Hussar mounted; the second of a Royal Hone Artillery-man mounted, Foot Artillery soldier of the line, a Highlander, and a heavy Dragoon dismounted; two n tval, consisting of marines, sailors, and boys. The at titudes selected in these composi ions are those of applause for the action of the Duke pourtrayed on the summit Be tween each group are panels containing the arms, and the lower base is empanelled with two military and two naval subjects, viz., the Battles of Vitt ria and Orthes ; and those of the Nile and Trafalgar, which are placed at the appropriate groups. TO MASH YOUNG PEAR TREES BEAR.—I was af• flicted by the sight in my garden for four or five years, of the most luxuriant and thrifty young pear trees which would not bear, but all their streng h ran into wood. Vexed at this, I resolved to try the experiment of bending down the branches, so as to check the flow of the sap. and cause them to form fruit buds instead of wood buds. Accordingly, the first week of December, 1847, I filled my pockets with stout twine; I drove down some pegs into the ground underneath my trees (which had branched low so as to make dwarfish heads); I then tied a string to the end of every long shoot, and gradually bringing down the end of the limb till it curved dt.wn so as to make a considerable bend or bow, I fastened it in that position, either by tying the other end of the string to the peg, or to another branch or a part of the tru nk . Accordingly, to my expectation, the tree next year changed its habit of growth, and set an abundance of fruit. buds. Since that I have had plenti fulsgteld.—caHre not to let erticuituriat. ma nfyruibtrcarnocphseswgitrhoowutontrothueblue—pritgaLintsgy RAILWAY TRAFFIC RETURNS. GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY.—Return of traffic for the week ending July 6 ..• .£23,46 0 0 Corresponding week last year... 19,953 14 () BRISTOL AND EXITER RAILWAY. Traffic for the week ending June :H : Passengers Goods Parcels Mails ... ... £3,8 14 9 3 1,072 2 1 ... ..„ 170 16 5 ... ... 223 4 2 Total £s3to 1 t 11. LONDON A`rD B LACKwALL RAILWAY.—Amount of revenue for the week ending July 6 : Passengers Goods _ £1,548 18 4 13 0 0 Total 18 4 Corresponding week last year 1,079 1 7 , e SHREWSBURY AND B IRMINGHAM RAILWAY. ...T rADEIC ceipts for the week ending July 6 : Passengers £370 5 4 Car iages, horses, and parcels ... 10 0 8 Li ve stock • ••• 22 110 Blerchandlie and mmarals 244 5 5 Total .£646 13 3 Corresponding period last year.. 601 16 11 MANcHEsTga, BUXTON, MATLOCK, AND MIDLAN DS riot; RAILWAY.—Keturn of traffic for the week ending July 6;_ Passengers, &c. .•• Merchandise ... YORK AND LONDON MST:MANCH r a o n u k g y t in th ebyd reeColiPANT.— On Friday an adjourned meeting was held before Master Blunt, tic:discuss the balance of a claim amounting to 1,3001. thetorL:ndon and Westminqter Bruit. The Original luau was ~b out 5,000/., which has been repaid to the with the exception of the above ba. lance. Mr. Roxburgh appeared in support of the claim, which Mr. Hetherington, on the part of Mr. Goodcbap, the official manager, opposed, mainly on the ground that the di• rectors had not Abe power under the deed to borrow money for the purpose of winding up. After a dry legal argument , his Honour decided upon allowing the claim, being of opinion that in the present case the directors had not exceeded their power in concluding the loan. ASSAULT BY A CLERGYMAN: AA the Hitchin petty seiriwjs some considerable anxiety was manifaated by the attendance of a large number of persons, attracted nom the fact* . the Rev. W. Norveale, rector of that parish, being sumnorod before the inagi-trates, at the instance of the Is 4 oraern Railway C.mpany, fur aft ssaault committed by the rev. gpntleatan on Suaday last on a servant of that tsllway, engaged in the dilcharge of his duty. After ;:!erY Protracted hearing of the case , with the ar g uments of 371*t great length, ttie magistrates convicted the defen. dent ' a tIA auni of 41. and" cost& f £137 1 4 ... 57 1 9 £194 3 1 '267 9 3 Total "' Corresponding week last year_.. .__ throughout the THE POTATO CROP.—ThiS crop damage is from Trost. In the Carse of G,,srie the counti es of Fife and Perth has sustained considerable injury repre sented as extetiive, while in Fife and Kinross the attacks. seem to have been capricious_ portions damp while other portions were untouched ; but generally and mussy boils the blackening is most complete.—ScoL ni s mal " portions of tielda being thipatcoes Were rtc-ived yeatt rday a; the C 0194 4" ". cfriee, from thy GOTOILIQT Of the C audits. injured I.IPIA,LAL P4ItLIAMENT HOUSE OF LORDS, July 14. The LrIRD CHANCELLOR took his seat un the Wool sack at Five o'clock. THE CRYSTAL PALACE. Lord CA.MYBELL presented a petition from certain ladies and gentlemen, among whom were Justine Cress well and a Noble Earl a Member ot that flous., praying their L irdships not to consent to the continuance ot the ,Crystal Palace. These pets loners resided in the neigh bourhood, and had therefore a greater interest in its removal than the petitioners from Aberdeen and places at a distance could have in its continuance. The Noble Lord quoted the Quarterly Review to show that a winter garden would be most insalubrious. The best use to which it could be put, if continued, would be a shower bath, for it was that now during every storm. This was the last opportunity he should have of troubling their Lordships on the subject, for on Monday he should go circuit, but he could r.ot believe that Par liament would acquiesce in the breach of faith ve.icti would take place if it were continued. PETIrioNs. The Earl of ABERDEEN presented petitions from Tipperary and other places in Ireland against the Ec cleeitnitical Titles Assumption Bill. He also presented a petition from the Archbishops and Bishops of the Roman Catholic Church iu Ireland against the Bill, because its provisions militated ugliest the privileges of the Raman Catholic Church, with which no secular power had any right to meddle. PUNJAUB 800 FY. The Earl of ELLENBOROUG El asked what bad been done with regard to the Puiejeub booty. The usual coarse was to memorialize the Court of Directors for the distribution of the booty. Lord BROUG HTON said ehat was precisely the course which bad been adopted. HORFIELI) MANOR -ESTATE. - The Bishop of OXFORD moved that copies of the correspondence touching the Hot field Manor Estate be tween the Copyhuld Commissioners and the Eccle siastical Commissioners, be laid on the table. He moved for these papers on behalf of an absent orother, who had, as he believed, been most grievously misrepresented in regard to this matter. He should sesame that every mis-statement which had been made nett been accidental, and that the parties making them had been actuated by the purest motives. I; had been charged that his Right Rev. Friend, when he had succeeded to the diocese of Bristol, was morally and equitably bound to deal differently with the marsor of Hut-field from any other part of the property of his diocese, that he had sought to make a oargain with the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, a bargain which had been prevented by the intervention et a Mem her of the other House of Parliament. Now, he would -how that the Bishop of Gloucester received the estate ot Horfield manor upon precisely the same conditions on which he received every other portioti of the property of the see of Bristol. He had done with that property what the Legislature intended he should do with every portion of the property of the see. He had entered iutu ttegotiations with the Commissioners tor the purpose of carrying out some singularly liberal views with respect to the Church to which he belonged. The Right Rev. Prelate bad taken such steps as be thought best calcu lated to forward those views, but he would nut now state what they were, lent it might be supposed he had been famed by the clamour which had been so unjustly raised against him. and not by his own tree will. The state• ,scut against him was, first, that because his predeces sera bad refused to renew the lease in order that the -state might tali into the Church, his Right Rev. Friend lad ieftteted injury by doing so. For his part, be (the t-liehop of Oxford) never knew a case in which every step of the preceediegs had been so entire ly misrepre sented, and in which trial had been so mixed up with falsehood. New one predecessor of his Right Rev. "'fiend, namely, Bishop Grey, had been negotiating with ti ,e lease() for a new lease when he died. It had (wen . alleged that Bishop Allen, the next in succession, (lad eiven a pledge to Lord Melbourne that he touldc .net renew; yet the fact was that Lord had lett it entirely in his o w n di , cr e • Melbourne' bo . u n r d ne too, had bean about renewing when ne was trent'erreto . f d the see of Ely. Ia the Committee on Scclesiestical Leases it had been proved that *nen tenures a that of Horfield were very injurious. qu ence some correspondence to 1842 it bad been ei meured that the bishop was abeat ham and the Eeclesiastical h o a d r e n t e a w k , e h and a t c h e a t b e i w e e r: Commissioners. No such correspondence, although some ° dlu 847b7ewn new scheme had been started by the Commissiener e as to the char g es which e ought to be levied on certain see's, it had been thought teat the unitel diocese of Gloucee eter and Bristol °tide& to bear a larger charge; and it war ` intended to add the 1-lorfield.Manor estate to the episcopal fund, after the pseseut bishop should be removed. T o that he had ob• e jeered as being unjust to his successor, nd some nego tiations(Hear.) accordingly took place between him end tne commissioners, with the view of entering upon some ar rangement relative to the property. The bishop had considered that the peculiar holding of that estate wos a most injurious tenure to the Church, inasmuch as it prevented the possibility of improvement. He had never intended to renew the lease on the same terms upon which it had been originally granted, but never enter tained the idea of not granting some kind of a lease the Right Reverend Prelate here referred to and read some extracts from letters from the Bishop of Gloucester to the Commissioners, in which he had stated that he treated the imputation of renewing the tease "as heretofore" with con•empt. Another accusa tion was that in 1848 the Ecclesiastical Commissioners having desired their secretary to remind the bishop of his moral obligation not to renew the lease, the bishop answered that he knew nothing of any moral obligateeu on the subject, but that he had a 1-gal right, which he would not alienate except for 11,5004 Now not only was no letter of the kind alluded to written by the secre tary, but the bishop himself, in February, 1848, opened A negotiation with the Commissioners, and offered to part with his interest to them. That proposal was re ferred to a Select Committee, of which Sir J. Graham was the chairman. Trey entertained the proposal, and a communication was made to the bishop announcing to aim that the proposal had been laid before the Ftnauce Committee, and that they had expressed an opinion of the liberality of the offer.--(Hear.) The negotiation went on. It had been asserted that the Commissioners endeavoured privately to transfer the estate to themselves, out that when the deed of transfer had been transmitted the solicitor refused to be party to the Lair. The fact was that the Commissioners having satisfied themselves that there was neither t quitabl-, legal, nor moral re eraint on the bishop to act &If rently with the Elorfield estate from the teller estatee or his see, consulted one or .he most eminent c-nveyancers as t i the best mode of ranswitting it, who gave an opinion that the proper Way ~f transmitting it was not by deed, but by order iu Coun cil.—(Lleur.) Such an order was drawn up, and sent, as usual lu such cases, fur the approval of the law ofli .ters of the Crown, who at the end of the month returned it with the answer that there were leg .1 difficulties in the way, us consequence of the limited power given by the Act of passing such an order. On that ground atone -vas the order in Council set aside.—(Hear.) Feelitee chat the matter might be misrepresented, the bishop called on the Commissioners to express their opinion on he. subject; and at a meeting of the board, at which the A.rchbishop of Canterbury was present as chairman, a resolution was drawn up and agreed to, to the effe,.t that the bishop having been under no obtigetion, 1 gal or otherwise, to deal with the flor6-1.1 errete differently from any other estate of his see, and having made vvith regard to it a most li,laersl off-r, the board ha i been noxious to avoid ell needless delay in bringing the neg detion to a close. The remaining charge was that on the dropping of the last life the bishop had renew- d the lease in a way in which he had fetid he would never do. Now , if his Right Rev. Friend bad evaded the law, by .elling it to a second party, in a way to allow him to transform it into a lease fur three lives, then he would have dune the thing with which he had bee., chsrg'-d; but. to prevent that, he had put the name of his secre tary in the lease, retaining in his own hands full power to carry on those improvements which from the first it end been his object to effect, and had already laid out a large sum in enfranchising the copy hold. In ord.. rto avoid any reproach of grasping at income, he gave up his legal claim to what he held in commeadani to an amount equal to what ho retained.—(Bear.) On this point it had been remarked that what he held in coot mendum was only for lily own life, and that it would not I:einefit his children to the same extent as the renewal ..t• the lease. The terms which his Right Rev. Friend had stipulated for in his negotiation with the Commie stoners was 11,5001., and he had accidently learned the way in which he proposed to apply that amount. It appeared that he had engaged to advance a sum of 5,0001. for the erection of a college at Bi istol, provided •it were repaid to his children. Circumeiances oc• Burred which rendered it problematical whether his children would receive it, and in ca-e they del not h • proposed that of the 11500/. the sum of 5,0001. should ge to his family, and 6 5001. to endow small livings in the diocese of Bristol.—(dear.) Such was the answer he bad to make to the charges brought against his Right Rev Friend. In a letter which his Right Rev. Friend had written to him he stated that under present circum stances he should not enter upon arty promise or engage ment with respect to his particular views and intentions on this subject. " These, said his Right Rev. Friend, "must be inferred from what I have already don,. Speeternuragendo. True, I have ulterior views; but I will not at present make any engagement with regard to them; for if I were to do so it would be attributed to tear of him who, per fas et nefas, is determined to de stroy my character. " , (Hear.) His Right Rev. Friend had, without fear or favour, won his way to an eminent station in the national Church, and had left this coun try sick in body, depressed in spiri; aed he was sure any expression of their Lordships' sympathy would be dear to him under these unexampled misrepresentations. The Bishop of LONDON said the Bishop of Glouees ter had been his intimate friend for 45 years, and he could assure their Lordships that the interests of the Church might safely be left in his hands. Lord CAMPBELL bore testimony to the character of the Right Rev. Prelate, as being that of a kind heart- d and generous man, and added that it had been demonstrated that there was not the smallest pretence fir saying that he held Horfield in a different manner from any other estate of his see. He believed the Bishop of Gloucester had consecrated more chutchee within his diocese since he had been appointed to it than had been consecrated within it since the Reformation up to his time. The Earl of HARROWBY bore testimony to the cor rectness of the statement of the Right Rev. Prelate as regarded the transactions with the board. Tee Bishop of Gloucester had not departed from the usual ceuree of procedure. It was with regret that he noticed a desire czitdieg to presume everything evil of those who were at the head of the Church. The motiou was then agreed to. MISSION AT FLORENCE. Ie reply to Earl Fl I . Z A ILLI d. el, The Nlerquis ef LIN N E said that there was no found eion for the rep.at that Government intended to diseontinue the tniesion et. Florence. COURT OF CHANCERY AND JUDICIAL COM MI f PEE BILL. The Marquis of LANSDUWNE moved the first reading of this Bill. L ,rd BROUGHAM said his Noble Friend had moved the first reading of this 1111. which, eccordiug to the practice of their Lord-hips' House with regard to Bills brought up from the Commons, would otherwise have been read a first time without remark, in order to give him an opportunity of saying a few words on this Bill, and of addressing their Lordships for the last time this session. He entirely approved of this Bill, hut the change to which he wished to advert was with respect to that branch of the Biil which referred to the adminis tration of justice in the appellate triburfal of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. The first question to be carefully considered was whether the quorum ought to be reduced {rum four judges to three. His opinion was that tour was the best number, and the experience of Westminster-hall was strorgly and clearly in faveur of four judges in preference to three. Toe reason was, that on nil occasions of cliff-lance you had the great authority of a msj irity of three to one in favour of the judgment of the Court, and if such a maprity was essential to the courts of the first instance, how much mere necessary it was to give effect to the deci sions of an appellate jurisdic:ion, deciding in the last re sort the most important questions, and which decisions nothing short of an Act of Parliament could over:urn. He agreed in the propriety of a change in the presi dency of this b .dy. The president of such a body should be answerable for the regulation of the proceed ings, for the attendance of the members of the court, and the distribution of its business, duties which a lay pre sident could not well undertake. The propriety of ap , pointing such a president was admitted 18 years age, when it was proposed by him. It it were said that there was some inconvenience in four judges being equally divided in opinion, be had only to reply that during the last 18 years the judges bad only divided two and two upon one occasion, and the incouvenience was ea .ily re moved by calling in one teber member. the appoint ment of a vice-president of the court had been recom mended, and he thought well of it. There were other parts of the Bill of which he approved, and he re garded the measure altogether as a step—not a great or a long step, but still a step—in the right di rection. He ought to add that one want still retsiained to be supplied. No provision was made in this Bill to eueply another very ma terial defect in the appellate jurisdiction, in cases which rarely Occurred, but which had occurred, and which were likely to be of more frequent occurrence, namely, cases involving spiritual questions of a highly important nature, of an exceedingly difficult nature, and which very often, with reverence be it spoken, were of an exceed ingly obscure nature. They of the Judicial Committee were admirably adapted to deal with the common law, with questions of colonial law, with cases from the Con sistorial Court, and embracing the learning of the civil law. It was a tribunal well adapted to deal with ques tions of evidence, whether that which was deserviue of the name, the evidence taken at common law, or that which passed under the name, which was taken, or which appeared to be taken, in courts of another descrip tion. But with regard to iho e other matters which his Noble Friend the Lied High Commissioner of the Ge neral Assembly of the Church of ectelanci, who d fired to hold an episeopa,lian conversation during this non-sitting of the session —(Lord Belhaven was at this moment conversing with a Right Rev. Prelate) —would admit were spiritually diffi ult questi ns, the Judicial Com mittee had a confused authority, and his brethren had authorised him to confess that with those subjects they felt themselves wholly unfitted to deal. Upon this class of subjects they desidereted control. The y did not want to be dictated to. but they wished to have what it was right they should have, the aid, the in. stitnable benefit of the assistance of learbei men in that. branch of the law. The present measure, then, was a step—but not a stride, not along step—in the right direc tien; but if any man thought that this or any other struc tural alteration in the Court of Chancery—if any man dreamed that each a measure laid the axe to the root of the greyest and most grievous of the many crying evils that afflicted the subjects of this country, not the judges or the practitioners, but the unhappy suitors of the court, although he admitted that it would, nevertheless, do justice to the suitor, and enable him to obtain that which he had a right to obtain. at a reasonable cost of money, of trouble, and of time—if any dreamer, he rep ated, believe d that any structural alteration of the Court of Chancery would do alt that was wanted, such a dreamer was in a tool's paradise, and would awaken in the moron g to a sad reality that would belie all that he had fancied in his blucotwr a. It would alarm their Lordships to hear the proofs that bad been brought before the Committee as to the state of things iu all the courts of equ ty and in all the branches of those courts. Their Lordships had victims among them selves, and be saw a Noble Friend of his who went into Chancery for a debt of 5001., and who had the misfor tune to deal with a somewhat insolvent party and his professional adviser. 1,2001 was the cost of obtaining that 500/. His Noble Friend had succeeded, and to might believe him he ought to consider it very che.p.— (Rear, and a laugh.) At any rate, his Noble Friend would have been 7001. better off if he had left alone his 5001 and made up his mind to its loss. But nineteen tw- ntietha of the cases were not those of contested debts for 5001., but cases where parties were perfectly ready to wind them rip and arrange them without going into the Court of Chancery. One case of infancy had lasted four years. The estate was of moierate amount, the income being 1551. in stock. The infant was placed out, orders were wade, considerable expenses were incurred, and 681. 4s. was the cost that the estate had to pay in order to get the infant's own money laid out for the infant's own use and benefit. The deduce tion of 70/. a-year from the income of the in fant was incurred for orders of Court where there was so contest or dispute whatever.—(llear, hear.) In another case, where a simple contract debt was claimed against the estate, costs amounting to 1,200/. or 1,5001. were incurred on one ride, and, in all, costs to the amount of 3,0001. were incurred to recover 1,000/. In the case to whicn he alluded the suitor was a gentlemen residing in India. In July, 1840, his case was before the Rails; in 1851, when he came over to ask tater his cause, he was odd it was still uudecided, and that it, was before the Rolls again, where he had lett it 11 years ago. This gentleman was mte sewer told that his had tour or five years more to wait It might be expected that this gentleman would say that in India they hid the cobra capells, the jungle fever, the tiger, and various other evils anti dangers, but that at I- ast they had net a coon which be (Lori Brougham) dared not to name—(.a laugh.) Tne taxing-mister, Me. Follett, had a case be fore turn in which 90/. costs were incurred in deciding whether la should be laid out in repairing a necessary and convenient part of a house, but which he should no more dare to name to their Ler letups than the court in eu r eaion. In one edge a reference was made to the ylaster for impertinence—that was for putting irrel. - vent anti unnecessary matter into an answer, and the Master had to inquire whether a number of documents had not been so put upon the answer. The case was glaring and gross, and the master decided, sf er hearing counsel, who were not prolix—they were never prolix hut ouly fall—that relief must be given to the amount of 201. The party thus d coed against appealed to the Vice-Qoancellor, who agreed with the Master. Another appeal was made, and the decision again affirmed, and the expenses of getting this 201. struck off amounted to 800/. —(Hear, hear.) But the wrongdoer bad to pay that? y s .., almost the whale, but not quite the whole. Between 401. and 59/. of hese expenses he never received. so that he would have been 301. the richer if he had submitted to pay the 201., which the taxing-master decreed he ought not to ply; and this dispute lasted for two or three years. In the Day and Martin case, which was psr:ly litigated and partly administrative, the value of the estate was about 400,0001. Ile h..,(1 head that the bill of coeta in this case araounted to between 70,000/. and 90 000/.—(Hear. hear.) Now, was it possible that their L irdships could much long- r resist the conclusi n at which the people of this country had arrived, that the axe must be laid to the root of this crying and unbearable evil, and that, to use the words of Lerd Chatham upon another subject—if they did not reform themselves, the people would come in upon them and reform them from without with a vengeance? Ha wished for no rash and imprudittit changes. He had constantly maintained that to make reform wholesome it must be safe, and that reforms of the law, to be safe, must be left in the hands of skilful and well-informed men, without cuff-ring the rude and the ignorant to in terfere. But in propel Lion as that reform was delayed which was wanted and, indeed, exigently required, it their Lordships should no longer do their duty in ad ministering relief where it might safely be given, then he said that the result would be inevitable, that the good would be swept away with the bad, and that (as he had once before said). hevine the good and the bad swept away together, the juiieprudence and the judicature of the country would be put in a state and reduced to a coedition of ruin such as to afford a sad spectacles of the vanity of human plans and the instability of institutions, and to supply a wholesome warning t i those who, from a fear of granting moderate and tide reform, exposed their Lordships to the dangers of a violent revolu:ion. —(Hear, hear.) Re trusted that, instead of stopping at this measure, the other House would adopt the valua ble measures sent d 'ern from that House, and particu larly one of the most important weasares that had ever passed through Parliament—he meant the County Courts Extension B:11, to which might ba add-•d the Law of Evidence Bill. If these Bills were adopted by the wisdom of the other House of Parliament, they would greatly diminish the evils of the present system. To those measured might be added a reform to which the public mind was beginning to be directed, and which had the sanction of home of the most learned men, v.s., the adoption, as far as possible, of the com bination of the two systems oft quity and law, by what what was called, after the experience elsewhere obtained of its working, "the fusion of the two branches of the that ib" system." He hoped that those who were younger would g ha re v it e te t s h . t e i h m a p P r P = s en i' t f s they might at length say that a real and effectual pro gress . hed been made towards the amendment of the law. ships s in o g n s t h h o e u m ld ot h i usual and unprecedente . d, a course as to address their L ,rd but that during the last five or six weeks be had with with the utmost difficul y, and against the opinions of his medical advisers, attended the service..f their Lord• &lupe' House. During the last week or ten days this difficulty had increased and become more severe. In the hope of assisting in the passitig of this great noes-. sure in a cause to which his life had been devoted — (Cheers)—be had struggled to the last, until he found that he could struggle no longer. It was with great pain that he was compelled to withdraw himself from their Lordships' Howe, when he considered that the tempted tenetpj ttn this d i B 4tP h h l ri l us mdbalmi iengviootpb, e e dr so of great cause of religious I%t,et ty. io more shapes than one, was ic danger, avid -thee. he d..sired t t co-oyeate is the philanthrepie measures 4:,1 his N,ible Friend (the Earl of Seattesbure) It wee 2, great pin !o him to leave the service of the House at slice a time, but it was his bounden duty eo loieger to incur the risk which he had no t hesitated to ruts, when he thought it ah4olueely nee cesaary.—(Clheprs ) The LORD CHANCELLOR was extremely glad to find that the Bill now on their Lordships' table met with the approbation of the Noble and Learned Lord. He would not follow the Noble and Learned through the statements be had made on other important matters, be cell.° the present was not quite the proper occa.ien for doing so; but he wished to observe, that as he was aware of the many di facts in the Court over which he presided—defects which were the growth of time, and which had existed during the period when his Noble and Learned Friend and others had held the great seal —immediately upon his entering upon the duties of his present office. a B , l , cien w,s made of gentlemen 8113 , WK the must informed at the Chanc -'y ttv, the mcet alive to the di facts in the Court. and the most fitted to bugged a remedy; and those gentlemen aere milled upon to am as a commission to rteeew the whole system of Chat cry practice. They had since been most diligently eta cloyed, ard his Noble and Learned Friend beitl aware of the character and ability of those gentlemen would doubtless derive ceesidershle comfort from the confi dence he must entertain, that an inquiry conducted by such gentlemen must be followed bv some af..ctive measure of reformation. There wits already a report on the table from the commission, which had reviewed the whole proceedings at c-mmon law, and a Bill, which he hoped to present to their Lordships before the close of the s.fssioe, was being prepared from the materials of that rep rt. It was not I,ki•ly that a report from the Chancery Commission could be so fir advanced as to allow of a similar step being taken with respect to it in the present session, but it weed& ao ter as it mieht re ceive their Lordships' approba ton, be most carefully carried into eff ct. Tne Noble ant Learned Lord's sug gestions with respect to the present Bill would receive the most careful attention. They had principal reference to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council; but the present Bill addre , eed itself to the remedy ut a particu lar evil, namely. to prevent the recurrence of the incon venience which wan felt to arise last year from the ab sence of several of the Learned Judges in the courts of equity in consequence of illness. It did tot profess to • go further, because, as the Commission to which he had alluded was in tweed operation it was thought better to wait for the report with a view of then applying a ge neral remedy for existing &fects. Consideriug that the Noble and Learned Lord had presided over a court such as he had described, the details which he bad given cer ainly entitled him to great By repathy. Lord BROUGHAM said that he had endeavoured to apply as much remedy as he could to the defects which were justly complained of. lie sheul , l like to know when steps would be taken to turn to public account the criminal law digest. It was thirteen mouths siec t that he received a letter from the Chancellor of tee Exche quer, stating that no time would be lost in doing so. Were proceedings in respict to that to be conducted with the same snail-like pace as business in the court to which he bad just directed their Lndshipie attention? The Bill was then read a first time The Duke of RICHMOND presented thirty five pe titions from parishes in Essex, against, as the Noble Duke described it, that most iniquitous law, the peseta corn law, the present navigAiou law, and the currency law; also petition*. from Elgin and another place in Scotland against Paps' aggression, and a petition agsivat any 13:11 tor the abolition et religious testa. The Burgesses and F , eemen's Parliamentary Fran chise Bill went through Committee. The Attorneys and Solicitors Regulation Act Amend ment Bill and the Representative Peers for Scotland Bill were severally ripurted. The Ge❑eral Bard of Health Bill was read a second time. Lord MON I'EAGLE gave notice that on a future stage of this 13111 he would put a question to the Earl of Stiafcesbury with relerence to the condition in which the metropolis %as lett in regard to interments. The Lodging-Houses Bill was read a third time and passed. The Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Bill, the Highway- Rates Bill, aid the Loan Societies Bill were severally read a secui.d time. The Earl of SIIAFFESBUR,Y gave notice that on Friday tie would m •ve for a copy of the report made la) Mr. Grainger on the sanitary state of certain parts of the metropolis, and at the same time call the attention of the House to that report, wish the view of showing that un less some remedy were speedily applied [hare was reason to fear a recurrence of the cholera. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF GO 11 401 V S. July 14. The SPEAKER Look the et.i.ir F ,ur u elyek. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' amendments to the fulluwing Bills were considered and agreed to:— Eist Anglian Raikays. El. ctric Tel-graph Company. Ulverstune and Lenca►ter Railway. THIRD READINGS. The General Rev rsionary and luvestment Company Bill, and the Lincolnshire Estuary Bill, were reed a third time and paused. The Hove Improvement Bill was considered and agreed to. Moore's Estate Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be commits.-d PETITIONS. Lord BROOKE presented a peution from the county of Warwick, praying tur an alteration of the ecclesiastical Mr. DIVETT presented a petition from Exeter, pray ing the House to pass a Bill to compel physicians to write their prescriptions in English instead ot Latin. Mr. 60 ['HERO A presented a pqition from Bradford, in Wiltshire, praying that the Crystal Palace might be devoted to the purposes ot a winter garden. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from Mr. R. Owen, praying for inquiry into his system of edu caion. Lord MAHON presented a petition from Hertford in favour of the continuance of the Crystal Palace, Mr. BES P presented a similar petition from a place is Worcestershire, and praying that the building mi g ht be converted into a self-bripporting winter garden. Mr. P. BU CLER presented a petition from the millers of the county 01 Keity, complaining of the introduction of foreiet fi ur,_ _ _ Admiral GORDON pre ented a petition from Aber deen aginist the Sal.n..n Fisheries Bill. Mr. WILLIAMS and several wrier Hon. Member. presented ue itiona in favour of the Pharmacy Bill. M?. HUME presented a petition trom a place tu Es4ex, implaining of the in. quality of the property and ine,ime-tax; vlso a peition, very numerously sig,ed, iron) GI , at Y.,irmoutn, complaining of the proceedings ut the Board of Health, in taking the diainage of the I„ ca l t ry of the hand, of ihe lucal authuritieg. Mr. E. B. ROCIIE presented a petition from the millers of Ktus-Oe, pray tug the Hou.e to past, some mea .ura to relieve the present depressed state of the millers of Ireland. METROPOLITAN CEMETERIES. Vise , unt DU NOAN asked Mr. Cornewail Lewis what number of ct-m.!tertes the Commissioners of the Board of Elealtn have purchased, under the Act 13 and 14 Vic, c. 52; what am.,unt of money has been expended in such purchases. the nam s of the cemeteries which the> tve in !real for; and also the name of the fund from whin() the money., ate to be taken for defraying any part ~f preset t or future purchases of ground rrr burying her Males "'s igthj eta in or near the metropolis? Mr. C. LE .VIS sail that no cemeteries bad yet been purchased, but the Government were in treaty for tho Nunhead and Brampton. WATER SUPPLY. _ _ Mr. THOMAS I.SUNCO - Al Eis,ked a question of Lard J , ihn Rus,ell, as to the totentii,ns of the Govern went with respect to legislation on water supply this tesmion. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the intentions of the G,,vernment would depend very much 0 , 1 whether the Committee at present sitting reported in time fur any Bill to be introduc r 1 this session. Mr. T. DUNCO MBE sini he II h• • aid repeat the clues• Lion in a more dr•ct(leif form on Wecke•day. HOSPITAL FOR TI-IE CONS rABULARY, PIICENIX PARK. Mr. GROGAN asked . toe Chief Secretary for Ire land it any plan tor the erection of an hospital in the PlCl3'kiX Park for the use of ihe constabulary had been bubtoitted to the Irish Government, and whether such plan nay been approved of or not; it he will place on th, table or the Ilou.e a copy of sacs plan, of th e est i mate d cost of erecting such hospital, and of the number of beds which the proposed hcepital will contain; if any appli cation has be n made to the Woods and Forests for a grant or lease of the ground upon which such hospital is proposed to be erected; and if he will lay a copy of such application betere the House? Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he had not received any information ou the subject alluded to by the Lion- Member. FLAG PRO NIOTIONS. Sir GEORGE YECRELL rose to ihquire of the First . Lord of the Admiralty what arrangem ents bed tn en made with resp-et to the civil upp,;iumaants of Vice and Rear-Admirals of Great Britain since the late pro motion and the revision of the list of flag off'e'rs. Also, whether the flag off.ters 12 , 0,v removed from the Active List are to firm a beparare list, or to be amal g amate d with the Retiree' List . f 1846, Also, whether the lists of retired ()Eters and the promotion of commander s and lieutenants, acciuding to the plan tan ly laid before Par liarntrut, will be announced in the Gizette. Sir F BARING said that the late promotion would m A : i t r i a lo hi di o f f f G re r n o c a e , inl Britain, the , p p o inttnent of Vice an d R ear. which did not rest, with the Admiralty but the Treasury. With r.'gsrd to the recond a reherved li s t. were to totin question, these fhg of belonging tienher to the active nor retired lists. Of 0,) ,,, a ,, , al l these altA-ations would be anui tweed in the usual manner. INSULT TO lIER MAJESTY. Sir W. VEttNER at,ked the A ttorney Grneral for E , igia „d, whether his attention had been dir, cted to certain passatt s 111 t% ee*sitrpt . r, published July 5, enti tle.' The Catholic Vindiaitor, and amongst thrzia to ore l'hat if h er M je,ty th• Que , •ti to the followitig eft et :.__... should place her bigi; a t u r e to a certa i n a b o minable Bill (the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill), she will compel all real Catholics to regard her in a manner we are certain she will have cause to reg , e' ?" Lord J. RUSSELL (in the absence of the Attorney. General) said his atten ion hal bee directed to certain paasatles c.inia, fle d i n a p news -,. p r, called the Catholic Vindicator, arid pirticularly to this passage :.--`• That it her M. j. sty the QU en sh uld tilice her erg-return to a certain ab.itaiti,itile Bill ((he Ecclesiastical titlsi Bil ), she will c, mpcl all tel Catholics to regard her in a man• ner we are certain she will have cause to rkgret." He (Lord John Runell) had somo conversation with the Att orney-Gi-nPral cu the subject of th 1 1:, p,rog .e,ph, two it e.Lr:ainly Et pp, coxed to him that it wouiu oo very ucalvisah.n to rf...ise into iftip Atauce a newsp a p er which ,e,retsd to be one of the must worthless descor tion, and which enntained setitimerus, which. ab - min able as they were, ho was persuaded we're totally different tromt he , 4. litiawnts of the Roman Catholic people ge- nerell) . —;Hear.) ANNUAL GRANTS TO DUBL I N HOSPITALS. On the question fir goieg into Committee of SuPPif on the Mime,llene oas Eriimates, Mr. REYNOLDS moved that, considering the P ub l ii ' importance of maturaining as national institutions t he very valuable schools of medicine in Ireland, w hich 113 e di riv- d th. it chi e f e ffi c i enc y f rom th e i nstruc tion afford." by ihe Dublin hospitals, to the support of whict-' tor long series of years Parliament ha. contributed, it w a unjust, and impolitic t o re d uce t h e amount o f the annul grant which was allow e d i n 1848 an d t h e p re ceding Yea rs to those bosp:tels. The Government had come to the House year after year to move th il : these grants should be di m i n i s h e d 10 per nen," annually, and all they re s t e d t h e i r j ust ifi ca tion upon a l adopting this course was the evidence of a Scotobtosn re joke eg in the name of Drummond Chisholm. This person was attached to the office of the Chief Secretary for Ire land, but bad betrayed his trust, and robbed the chola° under his charge. Be was now a fugitive in Amer ica his name having appeared in the flue and Cry of b oth countries, and the Government having o ffered a rewar d for his appr. hen s ion. Y e t it was u p on th e un supnotte d evidence of such a character that the charitable inetitu: lions of Dublin were to he destroyed by the withdrawal of these grants. Though he (Mr. Reynolds) wished to save Dube from this infliction, he had nu hope cess, stetie li g the total disregard which was paid to Irish Memoera in that House when they b r ou g ht forwa r d sutj-ct relating to the welfare of Ireland. W fiat ch slice had he under these circuar stances of pleading ti e cause of the wretched Pa uti; r itect , -(1 pan ho were sick within the walla of these hospitals? If ever Irish M mbers were unanimee S n e on an quievien at/ ctieg Ireland they were unanimou s upon this. This very day he had had the ter nour or forming a portion of a deputation that waited upon the Prime Minister against the with" driven( or diminution of these gr into, the address which was presented to his Lordship, was signed by 0 ° less than ninety-four Irish Members of Parliswen 6 and twelve English Members who w ere con' nected by property with that country—in all 106 mbers; and all the Prime Minister did was to drily rear them to the Chancellor of the Ezell: tine r l who, he said, would State to the House what be intended to do. Even that promise was rot kept, because the Chancellor of the Exchequer peremptorily refused to state what his real intentions were on the subject. The R . chtnond and Hardwick Hospitals certainly bad been spared from the consideration that they were schools of medicine, but in truth that was the ease wit` all the hospitals, and the same excuse might have been urged for them. This was one of 'the evils which hit been predueed by the unfortunate Act of Union, which had peculiarly damaged the city of Dublin. Sir L. O'dRIEN seconded :he motion. Ha ft It hie" self imp retively called upon to seesk in support of rh e inetion, becau.e he represented the feelings and the er: nionr of the majority of the Irish repre s e u t a tiv es on subject. The hospitals of Dublin were scheol a art' medicine, standing very high in the e l l " mot ion of the profession; they were f ur she d with lecturers and must Inns necessary for complet e , es t ee the eoical educ itien o' a large nu m ber al stueents, but if this grant were withdrawn the lecture s would h,ve to he curtailed, and the mu-sums altogether abolished. Tne advantages which these echeols con' erred upon srciety w: re incelcuiable and he did eat' neatly appeal to both s id es ef the Huse nut to sill their effictcy to be aeetroyed in the manner propose' oy the Gev. rnment. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought this discussion ought t:: have been brrugnt on in Co®' mittee, but as these who proposed it had not pursued that course, he had no alternative but to state now 11613 / he should object to the proposal. Only five o' these in' sututio received aid from the Irish earliament, subtle at the pre,ent time no less than thirteen we . ,,r ° 4niataily in the receipt or Parliamentary grants. e. was therefore at a 1,8 to understand h o w it could I , ' contended that the Dublin hospitals were worse off Vo l ! then they were prior to the Union, unless it was that I they received lees support from ihe publics of s voluntsll -- character. - Mr. E. 13. ROCHE said the Right Hon. Gentlenl, lll had urged a strange rea s o n against this m o tio n . P . would riot tam the grant because it was not originallY made by the Irish Parliament. He contended that Oi l of all others v , a4 not !he time to withdrelr the grant. With Ireland almost in a state of ...hat power had tier people to support hospite' e with voluntary contribution.? None whatever; and he hoped the House woull pause before it perpetrated the injustice of withdrawing this grant. Mr. GROGAN admitted that bimilar grants well not made to hospitals is this country, but they bit received toundationa upon highly favourable terms 10)0 was t quivalent to a grant, and therefore, in order that th • in.iitutions of the tw i countries should remain on the same foiere. his grant ought not to be withheld. Mr. V. BM CH, having presided over the Committe e which hair tiepin-1i into this quesuen, must say that hi ° Riot Hon. Friend the Chsecellor t f the Exchequer' in the course which be had proposed , was os rre ing 0° the views of that Committee—views which bad bee o founded upon the evidence that came before them. could iee nothing in the. condition of Ireland, as regard% those institution -, su dttferent from th is country en°l Scotland as to induce them to a d e p t t h e course propos ed by the Irish Members. Mr. S. HERBER I' admitted that the giving of an' nual grants to such institutions wive generally speaking , defenceless, but the question was, whether in the pre sent case there ought not to be an excepuion to th e general rule ? They should recollect that the circuar, stances of Ireland were very different from those °: England, inasmuch as ther e was no l aw of settlement or powtr of removal there as there was in England. A l fever appeared to be the national disease of Ireland, be hoped that the Chancellor or the Exchequer would take the case of be fever hospitals into his consideration. i ts place of making a foal withdrawal of the grants iroe l these establishments, he hoped that the Chancellor of the Exchequer would think it advisable to make one cool, plete grant, amounting to about ten or twelve year,, purchase, for the support of these institutions, and the' t rid of the evil that neeesaarily arises from cereiri% eeriest') to Perlterneut for these sums of money. Colonel DUNNE characterised this as but a specs" tnen of the justice that was generally meted out to Ire' laud by the British Government. Nothing could be more unfair or unjust than to withdraw these g renti from the hospitals in Dublin, which they knevr tt would be impossible to supply by voluntary marlins; tions in the present misetable end overburdened state that country. Mr. REYNOLDS said, under the advice of his triad. he would not trouble the House by dividing. He would' however, reserve to himself the right of again brineAr the question before the House on the next favoural2 lo opportunity. The SPEAKER, therefore, having pat the question , and a division being called for by some of the Irisb Meads -tee The gallery was cleared, when the numbers were the amendment 43 Against it .. •.• 106 Majority against the amendment —63 The amendment was consequently negatived. THE SEE (IF GLOUCESTER. • Mr. EtUME was understood to ask the Hon. Member for Bristol whether tie was prepared to make any answe r to the statements of the Ron. Member for Co fkermoet° relative to the income of the Bei(,op of GI =ester, t . which a reply had been attempted iu a place where the evidence was not t o h e f ound on wh i ch his Hon. Friend hid relied. The Hon. Member for Bristol had in a let' ter in toe newspapers promised to give an Lamer to the atatedwit ,, tit his Hon. Prised. Mr. P. MILES said that ho bad called upon the pub; lie to suspend their judgment uutil information could be r. ceived from the Bishop of Gloucester. He was now prepared to answer any charges that might be mad• against the Right Rev. Prelate. He was now prepare , ' to give any iniortnatton that might be called for. Mr. HORSMAN explained Out he had made a SiatV meet which was grounded upon evidence given be Committee of that House. He had made the stateme o4 too, in presence of several Ecclestastwal Commissioner" , and there was no answer ur explanation to that state' mesa. That douse kne w nothing of what had beau Bishop of Gl oucester. H e had commue i; with the Hun. etetnber for B r i s t o l, and peirlietl cared the out to him who; were the specific parts of the evidenc e on * e tc h he grounded his statement. He agreed wil l ; the Hen. Member that it th e y coo ld b r i ng t hi s ma tte' before the House it would be very desirable to do o °' but he found it was not possible to do so either on • Government eight or upon a motion day, as each rev Lion day was fully ocoupied up to July 29th. He norfo then, reiterated the former statement he had wade' He had, however, heard with great surprise that the Right Rev. Prelate bad given an explanation elsewhere' iu a place where the evid rice was not accessible to those who listened to the Right Rev. Prelate. If the Bishop of Gloucester did not think a statement made that House worth sn answer, and it he were satisfied with making a statement in a place where the evidence was not in existence, and in an assembly that was he oe:eerily ignorant of all the eircurne; ahces—if the &Owl s was contented so to act, the public would draw their own conclusions. He (Mr. Huremae) stood there anxiou s to sOstautiate his staletnents; and the orcurnstanefel he said, tweed out atmr ger than he had first put thei° forward. It was not his fault that the explanation are. made elsewhere, and the discussion removed to another assemble . . He remerked that the Hun. Member for Brim,' was riot a part ) to these proceedings. Lord J. MANNERS remark, d that while the ROD M. whet' wise su peroculer about this discussions tha t occurred in this House, he should be so inconsistelo as to refer to debates' in smith •r place. He co ns idered that the charge that had been made by the Hon. 141f 03° ber had been satisfactorily rupee,* d of by the bishop" (Hi al)— and be v.. 8 serty to tied that the. Hon. Member had taking ti is opportunity of indulging in another in' vective against the Right Rev. Prelate. CLADS I ONE ssel he could not quite under' stand how they we re entering upon this subji et at tb e present moment.—(Hear) He excused himself for ery wine; upon it, as the discussion then seemed to him t 4 be both imp ro p er an d i rregu l ar, b ut h e must, i n a ll frankness, say, that they were b o und t o go f urt h er with the peewee du gs.—(hear.) Iu his judgment the stare' went of the Hon. G.-lineman hail been impugned 0/ every moat material petit ;—(Hear)—but still he taus r say that it was most d, sir abl e they should have a furth er Oteieube4,.ii on this sulijec..—(Hear.) I t was with great pain he had heard the charges made by the Hon. Mem o tier against the Bishep of Gloucester, because there we_ no one on the episcopal ben c h m o r e d ist in guis h e d for!, character of liberality and charity than the Bishop of th“ n 3 6 0; LONION, TUESDAY EVENING, JULY is, 1851 Glop,, Bt aLd, t 4 gt , i11. 6 uep.ft Af. ( '`roPi.( Th e °4 Pol) 4,04 , I,Soi tish7,67 13 "rh, tr t , ( , ru b,„ k dr aw Th' 50