The Sun. — London, England, 1851-03-12 00:00:00

[The following appeared in our Third Edition of last night :-1 FRANCE. A priest named Dubois, aged only 29,-was on St- - turday tried by the Tribunal of Correctional Police for robbery. He had quitted the diocese of Besancon to come to Paris, in order to take out a degree in the University. He ingratiated himself with the Abbe Otin, chaplain of the cemetery of Pere la Chaise, and occasionally assisted him in his duties, for doing which he was regularly paid. He borrowed several sums of the Abbe, b u t, n ot content with this, he opened his desk and stole about 210 f. He also, at different times, stole silver spoons and forks belonging to the Abbe. He employed the proceeds of his robberies in treating a girl of ill fame named Hebert, with whom he had become acquainted in the street, and with whom he led a life of debauchery. The girl clearly proved that the silver spoons and forks which she had seen in possesion of the accused were those taken from the Abbe Otin, ; and a jeweller fur ther stated that he had purchased them from the pri soner. The Tribunal condemned Dubois to a year's imprisonment. The Slick contains the following :—" The usual ride of the President of the Republic was yesterday the cause of some tumult. About three o'clock Louis Napoleon left the Ely see on horseback, in pri vate clothes, followed by an aide-de-camp. On reaching the Carte de Marigny, cries of Vive Na poleon ! Vive l'Empereur!' were raised by persons standing near. Cries of ' Vive la Republique ! Vive la Constitution !' were then raised in answer, and led to some personal conflicts between the adverse parties." At the instance of the Minister of War, the Pre sident of the Republic has jut authorised the forma tion of a commission of superior officers of marine, to select some place in the French colonies as a pe na l settlement for convicts. Admiral Mackau is named president of the Committee. GERMANY. The sub-committee named by the second com mittee of the, conference of Dresden sent in on the 4th instant its report on the relations which ought to exist between the legislation of the various states and the general legislationof the Confederation. The report declares that there does not appear to be any neces sity for making new laws on the subject, the federal legislation already in force being quite sufficient. All that is required, it says, is to render the present laws co-ordinate with the fins! act and the federal act. The Sovereign is to have the power of regula• Chg., in conjunction with the States, all internal mat ters ; but he can by himself decide all external ques tions. No refusal can be given to vote the taxes, nor can the S7ate9 either reject the consideration of any applications made to regulate the affairs of the Con federation ; consequently, according to the views of the sub-committee, the Germanic Confederation is to resume with regard to the Geroian people the same position as before 1848. The following note has been addressed by the Aus trian Minister to the Governments of the minor German states, which have opposed the Au3trian propositions : `• Dresden Conferences will, according to the ar ranzement come to in the last plenary sitting, proceed on the 8 ,- h of this month to the flow con3ideration and vote the proposals .of Austria and Prussia for the imme diate establishment of the Executive of the Band. " The objections made in tne above-named sitting by several of the Pienipotentiarit 3 against these pro posale scarcely permit the hope of an unanimous decision on the part of the German Governmtnte But as these Pieiripeteritiariee at the same time declared that they, for the moment, only expreasrd their eersonel opinions, inasmuch as the views of tn. it Governments were only known to them in ge neral, those expressions cannot withhold us from ad drese,ing those who invested them pith their powers once :again on the importance of the imliending decision. " It there are in the condition of Germany any re Awns why the several members of the Bend should make some sacrifices far the benefit of the whole—as all the States have frequently acknowledged, and which is our inti mate conviction—then scarcely one of our allies can re fuse to acknowledge that the present state of things more than ever Conveys the admenitiott to make that sacrifice in reality. " After laborious negotiations at Dresden the conflict of claims has been overcome to the point that in the prominent and moat pressing question. the re-organiza tion of the Executive Power of the Bund, not only the votes of the two States of the Confederation, which would at the same time, as European powers, have to represent the result of the work of the re vision of the Band, are united, but those. of the members of the Bund, standing next to them in power, in the north as well as the south of Germany. In the eyes of the world it would be unquestionably an expe rience of seri )us significance, if, under the circumstances that prevail in Gertnety and Europe, such a proposition should be negatived by the contradiction of other votes which collectively represent scarcely more than the tenth part of the population of the Band. " The circumstances of the time appeal so loudly to the insight and patriotism of all, and the amount of what may be gained in decisive movements by unity, and of what may be lost by continued division, must rise so distinctly before any unprejudiced eye, that we should thin k we failed in respect to our allies of the Confedera tion, if we thought it necessary to detail it. " But wsat we car, and must demand, is a free and independent examination and decision, an exemins nation unfettered by previous entanglements. Not desirous to renew a barren contest, we will, on our part, willingly refrain from asking how it was pos sible, and how it admits of explanation, that many Governments which, notwithstanding our invitation to re-establish the legal basis of the continuation of the rights of the Confederation by summoning the assembly of the Bund, refused their compliance with it from anxiety and apprehension as to the return of past conditions, and with exaggerated reproaches against the eonatitu tion of the Bund, are now zealous for the simple return to this constitution, and prefer this step, at all risks, to assenting to a proposal which would place the collective strength of the united States of the Bund against any internal or external peril that might threaten the nation. " That on such a union of collective strength, in the immediate future, the salvation, and even the existence, of the Bund may depend cannot be denied. But neither can it be concealed that then the favourable moment for forming that union would have been lost. The present position of European affairs renders it more necessary than before that the renewal of the Treaty of the 18th of June, 1815, should lie in the hands of the German Governments, and that the alterations in it, required for the general strength and welfare, should be settled by them alone. But no one is in a position to prevent a state of things being produced by a longer continuance of the division in Germany, among other results of such a fault, in which at last only the interference of foreign states could and would give the final decision. Your Excellency will consider the pre sent note a confidential one, and, as such, only to com municate it without delay to the Government to which you are accredited. " Receive the assurance, &c.. " VON SCHWARZENBERG. " Vienna. March 2, 1851. The Cologne Gazette contains a letter from Berlin of the 7th, which states that the general instructions to be addressed to the Ambassadors of Prussia at the several Courts of Germany relative to the German question are to be forwarded to them in a few days. The Breslau Gazette states the coronation of the Emperor of Austria is to take place in the month of August, provided that io the meantime the German question shall have been settled. The Austrian troops began to leave Lubeck on the 6th instant. The letter of the Hanoverian Government relative to the German question was laid before the First Chamber of Hanover in the sitting of Match 5, but the consideration of it was adjourned by an order of the day declaring that, as the Chamber was not yet sufficiently in possession of the circumstances to pass an opinion on the conduct of the Government, it would discuss the question on a subsequent day. MARKET INTELLIGENCE. ----- (From the London New Price Current, March 11.) SUGAR.—To-day the supply at market waa again scanty of West India Sugar, and previous rates were sustained, but there was little desire evinced to do busi ness in either grocery and refining kinds, and only 150 hhds, &c., found buyers. REFINED.—To-clay there was little desire on the part of home dealers to operate in Refined Sugar; but there is ue further decline, and fair brown lumps cannot be ob tained under 48s per cwt. Crushed Sugar is dull of sale at former rates. he Ttiarars.—This afternoon Mauritius Sugar was for full rates; but not much desire was evinced to operate. r. N-if 3,021 bags at auction 2,000 sold; fine yellow at 40a to 42s other sorts 36s 6d to 39s 6d brown 338 to 365, l ow a ' - , ls to 325, and grainy from 363 to 42s per cwt. EAST INDIA-- Tills afternoon the public sales of Bengal Sugar went o ty offered quietly at rather lower rates. The quantit ylow an".l4 middling bags; but nearly the white damp 3"Z tog Benares went at whole 0 6 l ed 5t0014c1,15 6d, 41s, grainy white 44s to 465, fine yellow' ditto 43s to 44 5, middling t o fin e lik e Mauritius 33s to 41a. For isla dras the dull aspect, and fof 3 430 bags at D . • market has a uctton a small part only sold; middling and good soft yellow at 32s to 345, and low middling 29 s to 31s p er cwt, a nd these are rath er ' lower rates, FOREIGN.—To-day there was no public sale of Foreig n Sugar, and privately few p urchases were made, a l t h ough holders evince a desire to tell at the terms of last week, and in some cases rather under. MoLAssas.—Prices are lower for West India, but s , good business has been concluded, and the sales are 500 puns at 14s for old quality, 200 puns better sort at 15 8 to 16s 6,1. The stock is now much the same as last year at this time. Prices for Bengal and Mauritius rule at 12s to 14s, but there are few buyers. Cuba Porto Rico are held for 14s 6d to 17s; no sales are however reported. Cocoa. —The market for West India has yet a dull appearance, but supplies being limited prices are pre ven d te_from gi v i ng way, and rule for Trinidad red at 50s to 555, grey 45s to 503. and Grenada 42s to 478. Foreign is purchased with reluctance, Bahia and Para at 29s to 30s. and other sorts 31s to 32s per cwt. COFFEE. —This afternoon Native Ceylon Coffee is held for full rates, but the trade were reluctant buyers. Of 1,052 bags at auction not above half sold; fine ordi nary at 47s to 41s, whilst the good ordinary was taken TELE in at 465; damaged found buyers at frc itEL 41s to 465. Of Plantation there was no public sale, and privately little was done. Mocha is not much in demand and the public 'sa'les of 189 bales 28 hf-bales went at barely former rates, mid and good yellowish clean :a,rbled selliog at 66s 6d to 68s 6d, greenish 64s to 665, tri age 47s to 50., pea berry 68s, and damaged sorts from :37 sto 675. Costa Rica is cheaper, and 500 bags sold at fr.)t a 45. to 50. for good ord and real good ord, and damage id 41s to 455. TEA.—The trade are much in want of common and medium Congou; whilst prices continue to advance, the former selling at is to is Cid., and the latter at Is Oid to is Oid; there is also a firm market, and with limited supplies. Other descriptions have not improved in value ' • but a good business has been concluded at from is Id to is 9d per lb. The low kinds of Green have sold freely at a small ad vance, whilst better sorts are in impror 'Ed request at the previous currency, and there is a firm market. In Scented and Pekoe Teas sales are upon. a more extended scale, and some holders are not inc.iir Lod to accept pre vious rates. SPICES.- - The private sales to-day made in Spices were upon a limited scale; a few parties are disposed to sell at a decline. Of Cloves 25 bags at au etion went at 6id for damp Bourbon, and 75 bags erpol:t Bengal Ginger at 17s 6d to 18s, and damsged at 17:3 per cwt. RICE.—To-day the private sales in East India Rice were trifling, but there is no further •de , cline. At auction 500 bags good white Bengal were taken in at Ils per cwt, being above the value. Of St. Vincent's Arrow root 56 brls 28 tins were sold at 4d t o 6d. SPIRITS.—There are but few buyers of Leeward Island Rum, and the nearest value is is lid per gallon proof. East India continues to be operated in with caution, and can be obtained at Is 6d to Is aid proof. Orders are small for Jamaica for all purposes; for - fine and good sorts prices are sustained, inferior can h owemr be obtained at a small reduction. We quote hew and mid 30 to 34 per cent over proof at 2s 8d to 3s, goo d to fine 34s to 38s over 3s 2d to 3s 10d, and superior 4 1 1,3 to 4s 6d. The home and export demand for hr Ilndy is limited, and sellers are willing to acce pt for Cognac best brands of the vintage of 18 es° 4s 6d to 4s 8d; 1849 ditto 4s 7d to 4s 9d ; 1848 di Ho 4s 10d to 5s ; 1347 ditto 5s 2d to 5s 4d, and inferi( n sorts 3s to 4s. The value of British made Spirit is 9s 8d to 9s 9d, and Gin 8s 3d for 22 per cent. under proo', but there is a quiet market. Geneva is not much 'wanted, and is offered at is 7d to is Bd, and fine is 9d . 1 e 2s. INDIGO.—To-day at auction 570 erns, Guatemala In digo, very low, clean copper and strong brown coppery Cortes to mid and good Sobres, nearly I 1 11 sold at from 2s 6d to 4s Bd, being about previous prio es. COCHINEAL —To-day at auction of 100 , bags Cochineal, 10 very good Mexican Blacks were to h.en in at 3s 7d, and 90 low to mid and good Honduras 'ditto, nearly all bought in at from 3s 8d to 4s I Id, silver s 3s 5d to 3s 8d; 8 bags Lima 3s 4d to 3s 63. SALTPETRE.—To-day Calcutta Salti astre met with little attention, but holders would not cell at low rates. At auction 2,124 bgs were nearly all to Len in at 263 to 27s 6d for low and mid quality, 81 to 101 :per cent refrac tion, the small part sold realized 29s for: 4 to 5i per cent refraction, unrefracted 28s, and damage id 21s to 24s 6d. OlLS.—Prices continue to decline for, Rape Seed, and dealers operate with caution, the suppi r also yet exceeds consumption. The value of Brown Li, 32s 63 to 335, Pale 31s to 355; Foreign Refined 3.5 s 3d to 35s 6d; end East India 32s to 32s 63. per cwt. Linseed Oil is in small supply, and ns uch in demand for home consumption ; many parcels have also been taken for exportation. The -value on the 'pot is 33s 6d to 33s 9d; and for delivery .several contracts have been entered into at 34s to 34s 3d. Palm Oil is firm in price, and still in goo(' C demand, fine realized 293 to 29s 93 per cc re, whilst the Supply is small. Cocoa Nut is yet purchased with caution for home consumption e a,cl shipping; the supply does not fall off; and the rates , taken for Ceylon and Cochin are 283 to 31s. Olive Oil continues to at tract little attention, and there are se titers at a further decline; Gallipoli can be obtained at 421 to 421 lOs, and oteer aorta at 401 to 411 lOs p er tun. Ground Nut Oil has been selling at 34s to 353; and Gingelly at 33s to 333 6,1 per cwt. Seal has been in goo 1 request, and rates rule firm; pals at 341 to : e 5/, and other de scriptions 311 te 331 13s per tun. :Cod is held for 371 103 to 381; few buyers are, however to be met with. In Southern sales to a fair .extent have been made at from 301 103 to 321 for low to. fine; and larger parcels are not on offer. Holders of Sperm are firm; and sales are upon a more extended se: s:le at from 841 to 851 for Colonial of first quality. Head Is natter is yet in small supply, and 901 to 941 is the vain a. TALLOW.—There is a further adi r: Ince for Russian on the spot; and for consumption c n ily limited par cels have been taken; but the specula ti ye demand con tinues good. Fine new yellow C cedle realized 38s 3d to 38s 6d, and Old 37s 6d to : eis 9d per cwt. For delivery next month new is held for 38s 3d to 38s 63; but there are few buye to. A good busi ness, however, has been concluded for the latter part of the year at 39s to 39s 3d. Home a te‘ lted has met with a ready sale at 37s to 37s 6d net cash. Of South Ameri can 814 pkgs at auction were chiefly a 1d at from 35s to 37s 6d for low to fine; 560 casks Austr a liau 363 to 37s 9d for low to fine; but 134 casks East In( li.a were taken in at 42s per cwt. THE LONDON GAZETV.E, March 11 FOREIGN-OFFICE, MARCH : 8, 1851. It is hereby notified, that Viscount Palmerston, her Majesty's Principal Secretary of S tate for Foreign Affairs, has received dispatches from her :Majesty's Charge d'Affairs at Guatemala, dated respect i vely the sth of November and the 2d of December la: tt, inclosing two letters from Commander Hayes, of h• 3 r Majesty's ship Champion, which had arrived off the cc /tst of the state of Salvador by order of Rear-Admiral Hornby, Com mander , in-Chief of her Majesty's na forces in the Pacific, stating in the first, that he had : placed an em bargo on all traffic in the port of " T be Union," and declaring in the second, the entire coas t of Salvador to be in a state of blockade. FOREIGN-OFFICE, MAB CH 7. The Queen has been pleased to appr tive of Mr. John Watson Bain as Consul in New Zealani i for the King of the Hawiian Islands. DOWNING-STREET, MAE Z'H 11. The Queen has been pleased to appoi itt William Bar row, Esq., to be Chief Clerk in the office. of her Majesty's Treasurer for the Island of Mauritius. WHITEHALL, MARCH 8. _ _ The Queen has been pleased to prese tit the Reverend Grigor Stewart to the church at K i nloch Likart or Kinloch Linchart, in the parish of Cou t in, in the pres bytery of Dingwall, and shire of Roe:: . , vacant by the transportation of the Reverend Dun. 3in Simon Mao kenzie, late minister there, to the chur via and parish of Gairloch. _ _ Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant c.f . Derbyshire. Edward Sacheveral Chandos Pole, j u n., Esq., to be Depty-Lieutenant, March 3. WHITEHALL, MARCH :t. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Henry Simpson Stephenson, of Sheerness, in the county> of Kent, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the :High Court of Chancery. WHITEHALL, MARCH 4. The Lord Chancellor has appointed William Drans field of Huddersfield, in the county of Y rk, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Co art of Chancery. WHITEHALL, MA.RCII The Lord Chancellor has appointed Charles Buxton Ling, of Scarborough, in the county of York, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High.. Court of Chan cery. WHITEHALL, AIARCH 7. The Lord Chancellor has appoint« ;d John Daniel Williams Beeston, of Wellington, in the county of Salop, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in. the High Court of Chancery. BANKRUPTS. _ _ John Barnard Warcup, ironmonger, Kleptford, to sur render March 20, at one, and April 24, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official ass'll pee, Coleman street-buildings; Tayler, Adelaide-place,. London-bridge. Charles Driffield. draper, Beverley, Y: , orkshire, March 21, at one, and April 28, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assign( .1e; Ashurst and Son, Old Jewry. William Buckle, ship owner, Pall-mail, March 28, at eleven, and April 29, at one, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Sambrook-court, Basinghall-street; Towne, Devonshire-square, Bishops gate. George Parker, carpenter, Coventry, March 31, and April 26, at half-past ten, at the Birmingham District Court. Valpy, official assignee, Birmingham; Browett, Coventry. Henry Blakesley, brick and tile dealer, Castle Brom wich, Warwickshire, March 27 and April 29, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court. 'Christie, official assignee, Birmingham; Harrison, Birmingham. Edward Smith, hop merchant, Worcester ' March 28, and April 23, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Birmingham; Reece, Birmingham. Stephen Thomas Walker, horse dealer, Grantham, March 21, and April 25, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court, Nottingham. Bittleston, official assignee, Nottingham; Swan, Gray's Inn-place, Gray's-inn. Manuel Jones, cheese factor, Wrexham, March 24, and April 14, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Morgan, official assignee, Liverpool; Evans, Liverpool. Robert Wade, grocer, Plymouth, March 17, at two, and April 24, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court. Hernaman, official assignee, Exeter; Edmends and Sons, Plymouth; Stogdon, Exeter. 1 Thomas Kinten, furniture broker, East Stonehouse, Devonshire, March 17, at two, and April 24, at eleven,' at the Exeter District Court. Hernaman, official assig nee, Exeter; Little and Billing, Devonport; Stogdon, Exeter; Sole and Turner, Aldermanbury. INSOLVENT DEBTORS. Walter Frith, attorney's clerk, Jewin-street, Alderegate. James Parsons, cheesemonger, Marsham-street, West minster. Charles Simmons, barman, Theme, Oxfordshire. Joseph Bennett, tobacconist, Woolwich. Daniel Gibbon, out of business, Brompton. Thomas Clements, cattle dealer, Chiswell-street, Fins bury. James Pickford, shoe maker, Upper White Cross-street, St. Luke's. Charles Christian Schleiermscher, commission agent, Lake's-cottage, Downhism-road. Wi lliam Thomas, omnibus driver, Morning-lane, Church street, Hackney. W illiam Hu nt , P ort l an d- street, W a l worth. Hutchings, William journeyman butcher, John-street, East-lan e , W a John Hobbs, b a k e w r r. otton-place, New-town, Deptfo r d. Felix Richard Step hens, o di scount agent, M useum -street, Bloomsbury.ena Lucas, Gl oucester-place, Portman athe rin enl C farmer, E ast Prawle, Devonshire. St Ri c hard Randall, J o h n Whittham, jun., journeym an woo comber, Pudsey, Yorkshire. ;0 Wm+ . c64—.4.4ww.4. IA) .1, SUN, LO N DON, Joseph Long, farmer, Berkeley Heath, Gloucestershire. George Alanning, farmer, Corse Lawn, Worcestershire. William Vaughan, jun., shoemaker, Almely, Hereford- shire. Joseph Coiling, auctioneer, Bishop Wearmouth, Durham. John Forshaw, beerseller, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire. James Hacking, coal dealer, Blackburn. John Rich Morris, butcher, Wolverhampton. Edwin Cooke, woolstapler, Hereford. William Cooke, woolstapler, Hereford. William Jenkins, shoemaker, Preston. Thomas Spicer, blacksmith, Barking, Essex. John Simms, grocer, Manchester. Enos Roberts, joiner and builder, Manchester. Henry Bagshaw Leech, silk manufacturer, Manchester. Mark Melville, master of a steamboat, Liverpool. Edward Abbott, miller, Nottinghamshire. Peter M'lntyre, traveller, Manchester. John Eardley Cookson, silk manufacturer, Long Mill gate, Manchester. Thomas Bennett, surgeon, Strangeways, Manchester. Charles Bayley Frampton Stevenson, surgeon's assistant, Babbicombe, Devonshire. William Hadfield, watchmaker, Leamington Priors. DIVIDENDS. At the Court, Basingball-street. J. Murray, Gracechurch-street, Manchester ware houseman and wholesale linendraper, April 1, at twelve — J. N. Harlow, Ramsgate, wine and spirit merchant, April 3, at halt-past two—J. Saunders, Basinghall-street, and Bradford, Wiltshire, woollen manufacturer, April 1, at one—Elizabeth M'Knott and J. Glass, Belvidere-road, Lambeth, and Blackfriars-road, coal merchants, April 3, at one—T. Noires, sen., Upminster and Stifford, Essex, miller, April 3, at eleven—E. May, Oxford- street, iron monger, April 1, at twelve—J. reachey, Middleborough, Colchester, coachmaker, April 3, at twelve—J. R. Yid ding, George-yard, Lombard-street, and Finchley, mer chant, April 3, at twelve. In the Country. W. Miller, Liverpool and Bootle, wine and spirit mer chant and brewer, April 3, at eleven, at the Court, Liverpool. PAYMENT OF DIVIDENDS. S. L. Trotman, Liverpool, merchant, id., on Wednes day, March 19, or any subsequent Wednesday, between eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Turner, Liverpool. W. and A. Miller, Liverpool and Bootle, wine mer chants and brewers, 2s. 6d., on Wednesday, March 19, or any subsequent Wednesday, between eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Turner, Liverpool. W. Drabbes, Askern, Yorkshire, innkeeper, 4s. 6d., on Tuesday, March 11, or any subsequent Monday or Tuesday, between eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Hope, Leeds. NOTICES OF CERTIFICATES. At the Court, Basinghall-street. R. Hills, Downham, Isle of Eiy, grocer and flourseller, April 1, at one—S. Beyfus, Houndsditch, importer of French goods, April 2, at two—J. N. Harlow, Rams gate, wine and spirit merchant, April 3, at half•past two. In the Country. R. N. Jones, Liverpool, merchant, April 4, at eleven, at the Court, Liverpool—W. Randall, Manchester, calico printer, April 4, at twelve, at the Court, Manchester. CERTIFICATES GRANTED. W. Eeley, Horsepath, Oxfordshire, butcher, certificate of the second class—W. J. Sage, Great Portland -street, chemist and druggist, certificate of the third class—C. Robinson, Liverpool, sailmaker, certificate of the first class, after twenty-one days from March 7—J. Moore, Nottingham, cabinetmaker, certificate of the first class. WEDNESDAY EVENING, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Mareh 11. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool sack at Five o'clock. PETITIONS. The Bishop of NORWICH presented several petitions against Papal aggression. Lord STANLEY presented a petitio❑ from certain landowners of Northamptonshire, praying for protection; also petitions complaining of the Papal aggression; and petitions against the admission of Jews into Parliament. The Marquis of LANSDO WNE presented a petition from Bath in favour of the enfranchisement of copy holds. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. J, Garrood and C. Garrood, Fakenham, Norfolk, brass founders—R. Taylor and J. E. Taylor, Red Lion court, Fleet -street, printers—E. Hunt and A. MelliTsh, Maidstone, wharfirtgers—J. C. Watson, W. Frankland, and W. Dobson, Whitby, linen and woollendrapers (so far as regards W. Frankland)—J. Jones, J. Webb, T. Bold, T. Green, and W. Taylor, Liverpool, grocers (so far as re gards J. Webb)-11. Brame, J. Kelshaw, and J. Wil kinson, Elland, Halifax, machineinakers (so far as re gards H. Biluae)-1). Gilmour and W. G. Wilson, Port Durtdas, near Glasgow, and Earl-street, Blackfriars, ironfaunders— R. Nichols and J. Mackie, Huddersfield, cloth merchants—T. W. Kershaw and J. Lowe, Green wich, lineudrapera—E. Barker, sen., E. Barker, jun., J. Barker, end W. C. Barker, Greatbridge, West Brom wich, Staffordshire, drapers (so far as regards W. C. Barker)—J. Culpan and I'. ELvards, Huddersfield, plumbers and glaziers—G. Nicholson and J. Thompson, Liverpool, accountants—Mary Rushworth and Frances H. Johnston, Wakefield, milliners—H. Sheard and G. W. Brown, Strand, woolkodrap;Ts—K. Fenton and J. T. Leather, Thorp hall Colliery. Whitkirk and Rothwell, and at Leeds, coal owners—W. H. Ray, J. Page, and J. W. Rice, Croy dun, plumbers—J. Eales and C. Chalker, Dartmouth, curriers—S. Taylor and T. Gadsby, Man chester, hairdressers—J. Horsepool and J. Artois, Leicester, tailors—Mary Highton and Elizabeth High ton, Liverpool, licensed victuallers—W. J. Joselin and H. J. Morgan, Blackman-street. Southwark, hat manu facturers—G. W. Brett and F. K. Masters, Fleet -street, tailors—J. Walker and C. Brown, Whitechapel-road, silversmiths—T. Baker and E. A. Pike, Plymouth, iron mongers—R. Slocombe and R. C. Slocombe, Charlotte street, Portland-place, tallowchandlers—J. S. Haycraft and S. W. Haycraft, Kingston-upon-Thames, iron mongers—T. Walmsley and E. Jones, Liverpool, sta tioners—J. Horbury and G. J. Bertinchamp, Liverpool, shipbrokers —J. Corbin and S. R. Palmer—R.. W. Baird and W. P. Knowles, Prescot, Lancashire, tar distillers. INSOLVENT PETITIONERS. Henry Springett, Ivy Church, Kent, publican. James Beattie, Reading, draper. John Shaw, Manchester, overlooker. John Read, sen., Helmsley, Yorkshire, farmer. John Read, jun., Helmsley, Yorkshire, farmer. Samuel Steele, Tunstall, Staffordshire, boatman. Charles Dowding, Houghton,, Drayton, Hampshire, shoe maker. Hannah Harris, Bidford, Warwickshire, tea dealer. Arthur Newnham, Alton, Hampshire, surgeon. Felix Padman Hubbard, Studley, Warwickshire, grocer. Henry Rivers, Reading, Berkshire, plumber. John Haisman, jun., Brown's-buildings, Clifton-street, Finsbury. Sarah Bowes, York, lodging-house keeper. SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. J. Miller, Ballumbie, Forfarshire, banker, to meet within the British Hotel, Dundee, March 18 and April 8, at one. J. Brown, Kilwinning, Ayrshire, ironmonger, to meet within the Eglinton Arms Inn, Kilwinning, March 14 and April 4, at one. J. Siitheriand,idinburgh, merchant and commission agent, to meet within Tait's New Royal Hotel, Edin burgh, March 17 and April 11, at two. FRANCHISE EXTENSION. The measure to be proposed by Mr. Locke King on this subject is as follows: A Bill to make the franchise in counties in Eogland and Wales the same as that in boroughs, by giving the right of voting to all occupiers of tenements of the annual value of ten pounds. Whereas it is expedient to extend the elective fran chise to many of Her Majesty's subjects who have not heretofore enjoyed the same : Be it therefore enacted by the Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by, the authority of the same, 1. That, from and after the passing of this Act,* every male person of full age, and not subject to any legal iu capacity, who shall occupy, as owner or tenant, any lands or tenements of the clear yearly value of not less than ten pounds, or for which he shall be liable to a clear yearly rent of not less than ten pounds, shall be entitled to vote in the election of a knight or knights of the shire to serve in any future Parliament for the county, riding, parts, or division of the county in which such lands or tenements shall be respectively situate. Pro vided always that such lands or tenements be not situate within the limits of any city or borough now entitled to return a burgess or burgesses to Parliament. Provided also that such occupier shall not be entitled so to vote, unless he be duly registered as such ♦oter, and shall not be entitled to be so registered in any year unless he shall have occupied lands or tenements of such value or at such rent as aforesaid for one calendar month at least next before the last day of July in such year. 2. That the Act passed in the second year of King William the Fourth, to amend the representation of the people in England and Wales, and an Act passed in the sixth year of her present Majesty, to amend the law for the registration of persons entitled to vote, and to define certain rights of voting, and to regulate certain pro ceedings in the election of Members to serve in Parlia • ment for England and Wales, and the present Act, shall be construed as one Act. * The words printed in Italics are proposed to be in serted in Committee. RAILWAY INTELLIGENCE. CHESTER AND HOLYHEAD. The half-yearly statement of accounts shows that the receipts on capital account have been 3,750,0001. and up wards, including preference shares and loans on deben tures. In addition to this, there has been received for ti.ansfer fees, calls overpaid, interest on cash balance, and tolls from Shrewsbury and Chester Company, some thing more then 19,000/, giving a capital reeeipt of up wards of 3,770,000/ This is augmented by about 51,0001., the balance of earnings previous to the com mencement of the revenue account. There are then ad vances on steam-boats, surplus lands, materials, &0., amounting to 100,000/, so that the gross receipts under the head of capital are not far short of 3,930,0001. The expenditure for the railway has been 3,240,0001., including 7,700/ for carrying stock. The steam-boats, including alterations, have cost nearly 163,0001.; the in terest paid on calls from October, 1844, to December, 1848, amounts to nearly 200,0001.; the interest on loans on debentures, to upwards of 100,000 L; and the divi dend on preference shares to June, 1849, to 40,000/. The Mould Railway has cost 163,0001. The entire ex benditure has been nearly 3,914,000/, and leaves a alance of about 16,0001. The gross revenue receipts for thehalf-year amount to between 77,0001. and 78,0001., and the working expanses (including rates and taxes, &c.), to about 37,0001. or 38,000/. Thera has been a loss of upwards of 2,000/. OD the working of the steam-boats. We believe the balance in favour of the half-year will be about 37,0001. Against the balance of 37,000/. are the following claims, so far as the half-year's working is concerned:— viz., six months' dividend on 629,635/.; preference capi tal at 5i per cent., 17,314/.; six months' dividend on loan of 972,0321., at 4i per cent., 21,870/.; and also on the loan of 112,3001., at 5 per cent., via., 2,8074, or in the gross 41,9911. The summary of outstanding balances in the traffic and revenue accounts, with the charges of interest, &c., upon the same, show that the balance on traffic of the half-year of December, 1849, the June half -year of 1850, and the last half-year is 96,000/. Sir Thomas Fremantle, Chairman of the Customs, had an interview yesterday with the Chancellor of the Ex chequer. THE CENSUS. The NOBLE LORD gave notice that on Thursday he should more for the instructions issued by the Registrar- General for the taking of the census. PAPAL AGGRESSION. Earl FITZ WILLIAM, in presenting a petition from certain Roman Catholic inhabitants of the city of York, against any measure fur inflicting pains and penalties upon the persons professing the Catholic religion, said that he was not aware that any such measure had been proposed to Parliament. He was aware that a measure had been introduced into the other House of Parliament to prevent persons usurping territorial titles conferred upon them by a foreign power, and he approved of that measure. He desired to preserve in this country that pure religion which we had enjoyed for three hundred years, and therefore he desired that their Lordships should legislate on this subject. He entirely approved of the object of the Bill. He found that in the other House 400 Members had voted in favour of it as it originally was introduced, and therefore he supposed that the great majority of the House were in favour of making it effectual. He had, therefore, learned with astonishment that the Government had determined to abandon those portions of the Bill which would alone make it effectual. If the Bill passed without th© means of making it effective, they would pass a law which would involve the Legislature in disgrace and in ridicule—(Hear)—a n d it was to be lamented that Parliament and the Executive Government should have thus disappointed the hopes of the nation. He felt it his duty to make these observations, and to ask if it were true that those who had the con duct of this measure in the other House had de termined so to frame it as to make it ineffective. If the Bill had never been introduced, it might have been said it was a subject not fitted for legislation, but having introduced that Bill they admitted that it was a subj ject for legislation, and having made this admis sion they made the legislation ineffectual. If the Ministers thought they would have done their duty, or have satisfied the country by such a measure, they would find that they had grievously disappointed tho hopes and expectations of the conntry.—(Hear, hear.) He desired to preserve this country as a yt and that no justifiable means untried r to preserve it as suc h. The hard shipshoud Protestant b e l e f c t o u n t was not upon the Roman Catholics, but upon the Protestants of this country, that they should be com pelled to submit to this aggression. A gross insult had been committed, and he should propose that it should not be lawful for any subject of her Majesty to assume any title, civil or religious, without permission of her Ma jesty, and then it would be lawful for her Majesty to permit the assumption of such titles when it might seem fit, and to prohibit others from so assuming an usurped title. He warned her Majesty's Ministers against trifling with this important question. It was a question in which ho felt deeply, because h© was desirous of preserving that religion which he believed to be the truth, and he called upon Parliament and the Ministers not to be treacherous to themselves, if they valued their own reputation and the religion of their country. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in answer to the question put by his Noble Friend, would state that cer tain alterations were intended to be made in the Bill introduced in the other House of Parliament; but this House could not entertain the question until the Bill should have reached their Lordships' House. He him self did not think those alterations affected the princi ple of the Bill. Earl FITZ WILLIAM said the alterations did not af fect the principle of the Bill ; they only made it totally ineffective. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, March 11. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. NEW WRIT. Mr. CLEMENTS moved for a new writ for the borough of Dungarvan in the place of the Right Hon. Mr. Shell, who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. SECO/if) READINGS. The following Bills were then read a second tine:— Derby and Ashhorne Road. Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway (Fifth Shares). The second reading of the Smithfield Enlargement Bill was postponed until Monday next. PETITIONS. A number of petitions were presented against the Ec clesiastical Titles Bill; also, a great number against the Papal aggression. Mr. Alderman SIDNEY presented a petition against the removal of Smithfield-market. Similar petitions were presented by Sir G. Pechell, from Brighton; by Mr. T. Williams, by Mr. Henley, from the butchers of Oxforclahitu; by Mr. Wakley, from Stoke Newington and Islingtimot and by Mr. H. Drum mond, from places in Surrey, Mr. WAKLEY presented a petition from a surgeon at Exeter against the income-tax. Mr. BANKES presented a petition from Dorchester praying for the repeal of the navigation laws. Mr. PALMER presented a petition praying the House to pass a measure for decreasing the number of beer-houses. Colonel FREESTUN presented a petition from the merchants, ship-owners, ship-masters, and seamen of the port of Weymouth, praying the repeal of the Mercantile Marine Act. Mr. lIUME presented a petition from the artizsns of Sunderland engaged in ship building against the Marine Bill of last session; also a petition from Montrose stating that while the Bill was generally beneficial, some of the clauses were very injurious to their in terests, and they prayed that the House would take these clauses into consideration with a view to their amendmen; also petitions from the eastern parts of London, from Linlithgow, Airdrie, and other places against the Papal aggression; and two petitions for an extension of the franchise. The petitioners stated that so long as they were excluded from voting in the election of Members of the Legislature they gave no consent to the burdens imposed upon the people, and were unjustly taxed by the Government.=(Hear.) CEYLON. Mr. BAILEY read the terms of a motion, that he should bring on, on an early day, with a view of again bringing the matters connected with Ceylon before the House. BORNEO AND SIR J. BROOKE. Mr. HUME gave notice that he should, on this day fortnight, bring the subject of the transactions relating to Borneo under the consideration of the House, and move for an inquiry into those transactions, during which more than a thousand people bad been killed by persons engaged in her Majesty's service. COUNTY FINANCIAL BOARDS. Sir GEORGE GREY presented a petition from the ratepayers of Northumberland praying for the formation of county financial boards. RAMSGATE HARBOUR. Mr. MOFFATT wished to ask the First Lord of the Admiralty, whether it is the intention of Government to adopt the recommendation of the Select Committee of last session on Ramsgate and Margate Harbours in re gard to the abolition of dues or tolls now exacted from vessels not actually entering the harbour of Ramsgate. Sir F. BARING said the Government had no control over these dues, and any alteration in them must be made either by the Commissioners or the House of Commons. He had, however, directed information to be collected on the subject, and so soon as he obtained that information he should be prepared to give the Hon. Gentleman a more satisfactory answer. INDIAN ARMY. Mr. EWART wished to inquire of the Secretary of the Board of Control whether any system of examina tion, or test of fitness, on the appointment and promo tion of officers in the Indian army has been adopted, or is contemplated, in conformity with the system of ex amination of officers now adopted in the British army; and whether the subjeots of such examination will be laid before the House? Mr. WILSON said cadets had always been subject to an examination before they were admitted into the ser vice, and within th e last three months a similar, or rather, a strong e r t es t had been applied to officers of every description before they were promoted. If the Hon. Gentleman wou ld move for a copy of the minute appointing that t es t, there would be no objection to pro duce it. METROPOLITAN BUILDINGS ACT. Mr. LUSHINGTON said the Metropolitan Buildings Bill stood for the second reading to-night, and as his con stituents were anxious that it should not be hastily dig cussed, he hoped it would not be brought on at a late hour to-night. Lord SEYMOUR was understood to reply that it would not be brought on to-night. POOR-RATES AND LAW OF SETTLEMENT. Alderman SIDNEY wished, to ask the President of the Poor-law Board when he would be prepared to lay his Bill on the table relating to the more equal assess ment of the rates for the poor, and also to the law of settlement ? Mr. BAINES said ho could not give a direct reply to the lion. Member in the present state of public business, but be would have no objection to state at the earliest possible opportunity when he would bring in the Bill. INTERMENTS BILL. Mr. MOWATT wished to know from the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the Board of Health were likely to carry into effect the provisions of the Act for the prevention of interments in the metropolis? Sir G. GREY said the lion. Member would be aware that in making a change of that important nature a great many preliminary arrangements had to be made. The Board of Health had entered into negotiations with the existing cemetery companies for the purpose of facilitat ing the carrying out of the Act, and ho was not sure they were actually closed; but ho feared they were not likely to terminate satisfactorily. The consequence would be that the Board would have to avail themselves of the powers given to them under the Act for obtaining possession of existing cemetery companies. Every ex ertion would be made by the Board to bring the Act into operation at the earliest possible opportunity. MISMANAGEMENT OF THE WOODS AND FORESTS. _ the gross income d er i ve d from Lord DUNCAN rose to move the following resolu tion:—" Whereas it appears by returns laid befor e thi s House, and before the Select Committee of W oo d s, ( F fr o o rea ra sts l , B W 42 o .3 rk to s, & 18 e 4 ., 8 t21 9 a ): during a period of seven years MARCH 12, 1851 the possessions and land revenues of the Crown has amounted to 2,446,7851, and that out of this sum only 774,0001. has been paid into the public account at the Exchequer; and whereas during the seine period it ap pears that a sum amounting to 1,672,7851. has been withheld for charges of collection and management, and for other expenses charged upon the said revenues, it is expedient, with a view to place the expenditure of this branch of the public service under the more immediate control of Parliament, that the gross income derived from the said revenues should hereafter be paid into the Exchequer, and that the necessary expenses for col lecting and managing the same should be voted by this House, upon estimates to be annually sub rnitted to Parliament by her Majesty's Government." The Noble Lord observed that the object of the resolu tion was Co — this effect, that the gross revenue derived from the Woods and Forests should hereafter he paid into the Exchequer, and that the necessary expenses of collection and management should be voted by the House on the estimates which were annually submitted by her Majesty's Government.—(Hear, hear.) He deeply regretted that it had fallen to his lot to bring forward this motion, but as the Noble Lord at the head of the Government had not shown any disposi tion to take the task in hand, and as he (Lord Duncan) had acted as Chairman of a Committee on the subject, and become acquainted with the many irre gularities which had taken place in the department of the Woods and Forests, he thought he should be want ing in his public duty if he failed to bring the subject thus prominently before the House. It would be recollected that the Noble Lord brought in a Bill last session, but it was postponed from week to week, and at the very end of the session was consigned to the tomb of all the Capulets, wnere so many good things had previously been deposited.—(Hear.) At the commencement of the present session he put a question to the Noble Lord on the subject of the Bill, but having received an unsatis factory answer, he felt himself justified in endeavouring to apply a remedy to the existing evils in this depart ment of the Government. lie wished to make no attack on the Noble Lord at the head of the department (Lord Seymour), but to vindicate a great principle by raising the question, whether it was to the advantage of her Majesty's service that this department should expend money without the control of Parliament? The management of these revenues were entrusted to three Commissioners responsible only to the treasurers; and the only records of their proceedings were contained in a report brought into the House at the end of the session. This, he thought, was not the way to manage that immense property. The gross amount of the property which belonged to the Crown was, he firmly believed, amply sufficient to maintain the Crown in due dignity and spiendour.—(Hear, hear.) He found that the gross rental in 1849-50 was 350,0001.; and the gross expenditure, 192,0001. Considering, therefore, that it required no less than 192,000/. to take charge of 350,000/., he thought there was ample reason for his demanding estimates on the subject.—(Hear, hear.) The revenues of the Crown in the department of Woods and Forests were derived from three sources. The land revenues consisted of household property in London (in White hall, St. James's, Regent's-park, Regent-street, Tower, &c.), of landed estates in different parts of the kingdom, and and of feefarm rents, mines, manors, &c. The Rolls Estate, and several other branches of revenue in England and Wales, Scotland and Ireland, were also committed by Parliament to the custody of the Commissioners. The great national bailiff over all this property was his Hon. Friend the Secretary of the Treasury. Now, with ail due submission, he (Lord Duncan) maintained that, con sidering the demands upon his Hon. Friend's time, he was not exactly the person to have such a large amount of property placed entirely at his disposal. Of much of the property, the Committee over which he (Lord Duncan) had the honour to preside found that no accurate rental was kept. It appeared that no rental had been derived from the property situated in Wales, Scotland, Ireland, and the Isle of Man; and the via countial rents, estimated by one of the witnesses at 1,000/. a year, had been totally lest sight of since 1834, and never collected. The rental had been lost, and was only found, after a long search, in a drawer during the sitting of the Committee.—(Hear, hear.) This fact alone, he maintained, would justify him in bringing for ward his motion.—(Hear, hear.) The second branch of the property committed to the management of the Com missioners was the Royal parks—St. James's, the Green park, Hyde-park, and various other parks in and near the metropolis. The gross income from these, it ap peared, was 11,0261., and the gross expenditure 64,479/. —(Hear, hear.) He understood his Noble Friend, a few weeks ago, to promise that estimates should be furnished in future with regard to this portion of the revenue; and, if so, he thought that they would afford ample scope for economy and retrenchment.—(Hear, hear.) The third portion of the property under the management of the Commissioners consisted of the royal forests, 15 in number ; the largest of which were—New Forest, in Hampshire, 66,000 acres; and the Dean Fo rest, in Gloceatershire, 20,000 acres; the whole forests containing about 110,000 acres, which had been esti mated by an eminent surveyor at upwards of 2,000,0001. value. The income from this •property was stated at 36,3931., and the expenditure at 36,784/., leaving a sur plus of expenditure over income on a property estimated at upwards „of 2,ooo,oool.—(Hear, hear.) He saw many gentlemen present who were well acquainted with the value of land; and he asked them if it was not mon strous that a property of 110,000 acres, and which had been valued at upwards of 2,000,000/., produced nothing to the national Exchequer ?—(Loud cries of " Hear.") He cautioned the House from running away with the idea that this waste property took nothing from the public purse. He reminded them that the property had been made over to their custody by the Sovereign on her accession to the throne, in consideration of which Parliament undertook to vote her Majesty a civil list of 380,000/. a year. If, then, this property was allowed to remain unproductive, it was clearly a loss to the public, for which the House was alone to blame. If the house would allow him, he would now proceed to state how the property originally came into the possession of the So vereigns of England. The Kings of England were for merly supported by the soil, and not by the system of revenue organized in later times. The estates seized by William the Conqueror, and which formerly belonged to Edward the Confessor, were of vast extent, and formed the ancient demesnes of the Crown, as distinguished from those obtained by escheat, forfeiture, or feudal de linquency. The ancient demesnes it was held impious to alienate. The Crown had, in the feudal times, various other modes of augmenting its estates, particularly from forfeitures, and in time might have become possessed of all the lands in the kingdom. But the Kings of England had ever exercised their right of disposing of the Crown lands to needy favourites and courtiers, and such aliena tionf necessarily made them resort to the Commons for supplies. The Commons were in the habit, at the com mencement of every reign, and whenever they were asked for a supply, to have recourse to resumptions of improvi dent grants, held to be granted only fur the life of the Sovereign. Accordingly, in almost every reign, from William the Conqueror to that of Henry the VIIIth, there were Acts of resumption passed, preliminary to or accompanying votes of supply. Up to the time of Henry VIII. the manage ment of these lands had been such as no one could com plain of. Large grants it was true had been made, but throughout the whole of the latter part of his reign large accessions were made to the Crown property by the disso ' lution of the monasteries. A great portion of that property was also granted to courtiers and the needy recipients of ' court favour, and it therefore became greatly diminished. In the time of Charles 1., a large portion of the revenues derived from this property was applied towards the support of his army, and afterwards towards the payment of the Parliamentarian army On the occasion of the restoration of Charles the Second renewed grants were also made to those who had aided in replacing him upon the throne. By an inquiry, how ever, which he had made ho had ascertained that Charles 11. still retained a revenue of 36,000/. a year. On the ac cession of William 111. large grants were again made to those who had been instrumental in promoting his ac cession to the throne. During the time of Queen Anne no return was made for thirty-one years; and yet it was but justice to say that while this property was under the direction of the officers of the Crown there was no waste of the property and no waste made by the assistants, But when it came under the direction of Parliament it was immediately used for party purposes, and he found that several grants were made, and in one instance no less than 10,000/. had been made for one purpose. It was not until 1798 that Parliament entered into any inquiry at all. After that Mr. Fordyce was instituted as an inquirer; and Mr. Fordyce, he was bound to say, had fulfilled his duty in a most admirable manner. In 1810 a commission had been appointed for the purpose of inquiring into the state of this property; and in a most lamentable condition they found it. The first witness called before the Com mittee over which he (Lord Duncan) had the honour to preside, - was the Earl of Carlisle, at that time Presi dent of the Woods and Forests. The Committee soon found, from his Lordship's evidence, that the accounts of the office were kept in a most slovenly man ner.—(Hear, hear.) In consequence of the evidence adduced, a communication had been made to Mr. Anderson, from whom a letter had been received, and he (Lord Duncan) thought that a more disgraceful letter had never been read to the House of Commons.--(Hear, hear)—and he believed that he fully justified the inquiry for which he now moved. From that letter it appeared that no balance had been made of the books later than the 31st of March in 1839, so that there had been no balance whatever struck for nine years; that no accounts whatever had been rendered later than the 81st of March, 1843, so that there had been no account at all for five years. Such a case could not possibly occur in any other department, and perfectly justified him (Lord Duncan) in asking for this discussion.—(Hear, hear.) It should be recollected that these forests had in the first place been appropria ted for the enjoy men t o f t h e Sovereign of the realm. For the management of these forests three officers were ap pointed —one 'Tor the management of the revenues derived from the domains, another for the nur ture and care of the deer, and a third for attending to the growth of, and the profit derived from, the timber. Now it did u n f ortunate l y happen that looking after deer and the growing of timber was not a very pleasant oc cupation, and the consequence was that these duties were dreadfully neglected. When he went down to the New Forest a few months ago, he found matters in a state of great confusion. The hewn timber did not agree with the catalogues which had been sent up to the Commis sioners of Woods, and no wonder that on the frauds that had been perpetrated in the management of the forest being discovered one of the managers ran away toFrance, another cut his throat, and a third bolted from the forest. It then transpired that the public had been openly robbed, and timber sold at periodical sales by parties who had no right whatever to it. Now, if the plan he proposed had been in operation none of these fihuses would have arisen. Again, in the case of the Wichwood Forest, for a long series of years the Woods and Forests had been at law with the ranger, Lord Churchill, and during that per i o d not a stick of timber was cut down. The suit abated at the death of Lord Churchill, but cot until the public had been put to the enormous expense of 7,013/. Walt hum Forest had almost entirely passed into the hands of the neighbouring proprietors, and the result was, there had been an end of litigation, to the great loss of the public, who more than once had been compelled to pay the Attorney-General enormous fees, amounting to upwards of 3001, for doing —what did the House suppose? Why, nothing [wire than putting on his gown and wig. —(Laughter.) lie hoped after this statement of f..cte the House would be disposed to support his motion, and then there would be a chance of diminishing, if not altogether abolishing, these gross and crying evils.—(Hear, hear.) A Mr. Kent was appointed to manage the timber of Selsey Forest, who was a clerk in a solicitor's office in the City, and who knew nothing whatever about the nature of his duties. The consequence was that after the lapse of six years he failed, and on inquiry being made it was found that he had cut down 4,000/. worth of oak, and applied the proceeds to his own purposes. This person soon afterwards disappeared, but was ul timately apprehended, convicted, and transported. Now, what was the use of talking of economy, when such practices as these were allowed? He did not attach blame to the individuals then holding the offices of Commissioners of Woods and Forests, but he did blame the system by which there never was any calling to account of these officers on the part of Parlia ment, and he must again say that if estimates had been laid before Parliament there would have been none of these irregularities. These unfortunate persons were the victims of a temptation they could not resist, and it was the want of control by Parliament, of which the House ought to be heartily ashamed, which had enabled them to commit those irregularities. There were no maps or surveys of the forests before the meeting of the Committee, but all the land had been converted into plantation of timber for the use of the navy. That being so, let the House judge of his surprise when he moved for a letter addressed by Mr. Barrow, the Secretary to the Admiralty, to Mr. Milne, in June,lB33, which stated that " in consequence of a statement of the comparative expense of wood furnished by the King's forests and that supplied by private contract, the Admiralty did not think it to the interests of the public that it should pay some 5/. a load more for that furnished by the King's forests." Mr. Barrow stated that the cost of a load of wood from the Woods and Forests was, indepen dent of all other expenses, Si. 6s. 6d. a load, whereas it could be got from a contractor for 61.—(Hear.) This was not stated in the reports presented to the House, and they had not been able to judge if it was worth their while to incur such an additional expense in the rearing of timber. There had been no opportunity of debating the question or entering into an examination of the true state of things, when they only had such reports, and which never came under the eyes of Members of the House. The question he had now to ask was, whether with such instances as he had given of the position in which the Woods and Forests stood, the House would allow the Crown estates to remain in the condition in which they were a year and a half ago?—(Hear, hear.) He now came to the question of the management of the Crown estates, and he thought he should be able to show such results as fully to justify him in making this mo tion. Previously to the appointment of the Committee the present Duke of Newcastle, who had been Chief Commissioner of the Woods and Forests, moved for a return of the income and expenditure of the Woods and Forests for the last ten years, which had been laid before the Committee, and he would read the results of that return. The gross income of the Woods and Forests for seven years, 1842-3-1848-9, was 2,446,785/. ; the sums paid into the Exchequer during the same period, 774,0004 ; the difference, or amount with held, was 1,612.785/. The expenditure by the re turn appears to have been during the same period, 1,555 085/. The difference is an increase of the balance in hand, 117,7004, to account for the expenditure of which no subsequent returns have yet been laid before Parliament. The gross receipt for the land revenue in the same seven years (in round numbers 280,0001. per annum) was 1,983,9241.; the expenditure charged on the same (about 90,0001. per annum), 637,644/, being a charge of 30 per cent, on that branch of the crown re venue, which consists mainly of rents. The gross re ceipts of the royal forests during the same period was 272,563/., from which, deducting 21,000/. for the mines, they had a net produce for the forests of 251,563/. The expenses *luring the same period amount to 274,9891., showing a clear loss of 23 426/. during seven years on a property of the value of two millions. The gross re ceipts for the royal parks in those seven years were 191,908/., this sum, including 72,000/. secured from the Duke of Sutheriaed for the sale of York House, applied to the formation of Victoria Park. The expenditure in the same period of seven years was 640,4521., showing a surplus expenditure in the parks in that period of 449,144/. Thus only about 32 per cent. of the whole revenue collected reached the Exchequer in seven years, and in the year 1847-48 only 18 per cent. of the sum collected reached the public purse, viz., 61,000/. paid in out of 340 599/. collected. The gross income of Woods and Forests for 1848-49 was 347,2751. ss. Id., and gross expenditure 207,485/. 10a. Bd.; the surplus income was 132,7891. 14s. sd. The amount paid over to the Ex chequer in part of the surplus income of the year 81,000/., leaves unaccounted for 51,7891. The gross in come of Woods and Forests in 1849-50 was 349,0971. ss. 2d.; the gross expenditure, 192,102/. 17s. I Id.; surplus income, 156,994/. 7s. 3d. Amount paid over to the Ex chequer as surplus income, 200,000/. Paid over more than received, 43,006/. When they came to look further into the matter they came to an item of expenditure which threw all others into the shade, and which he would read to the House. It was extracted from the appendix to the report of the Committee of 1848, and which contained a return of the law expenses paid to the solicitors of the Woods and Forests in seven years. It was es follows: In the years 1842, 9,1321. 17s. Id.; 1843, 9,7631. 2s. Ild.; 1844, 11,5241. I Is. 3d.; 1845, 8.2791. 3s. Bd.; 1846, 11,393/. 6s.—total in five years, 50,093/. Os. 11d.; 1847, 15,6391. 3s. 4d.; 1848, 13,5091. ls. ld.—total, 79,2414 ss. 4d. This was the amount paid to the London solicitor alone, besides which there were other solicitors' bills in Edinburgh and Dublin, that in Edinburgh amounting to about 3.0001. a year, besides bills on other places. He (Lord Duncan) asked the House if such a statement as that did not justify his motion. The figures might be right, or they might be wrong, but what he wanted was that Parliament should have an opportunity of knowing the facts. There was a lawsuit, for instance, between the Primate of Ireland and the Crown, which lasted from 1731 to 1802, and which cost 6 602/., yet this suit failed at last for the want of a title on the part of the Crown. That, however, was not the only lawsuit. At this moment there was one going on of a very serious cha racter between her Majesty and her faithful city of London as regarded the soil at the bottom of the Thames. It was commenced in 1844, and consi , erable expense had been incurred; but what had come of it he could not say, as no reference was made to it in the report of the Commissioners of Woods and Forests. What he (Lord Duncan) sought for was an annual estimate of the expenses of this department to be voted by Parliament, and on which, therefore, the House could express an opinion. Parliament, he maintained, could not but look with jealousy upon a department of the State managing its own affairs, without reference to the control of that House. One item which he should mention would cast in the shade all he had hitherto said on the subject. From 1832 to 1848, a period of sixteen years, property belonging to the Crown bad bean sold by the Board of Woods and Forests to the extent of 696,275/., without Parliament being consulted on the subject, though that House was distinctly constituted as the guardian of this property. Parliament, no doubt, was informed of the fact; but it was not until after the sale had been made. Of this property, to the value of 361,0001. had been sold by public auction; but 335,000/. worth had been sold by private treaty. Under the 10th Geo. IV., c. 50, it was enacted that all moneys derived from the sales of Janded estates, the property of the Crown, should be re-invested in the purchase of other property of the same nature to an equal amount. But, according to the statement of Mr. Barrow, an unexceptionable evidence, at least 300,000/. of this money was invea ted in property which was not of a very productive character. When the House of Commons, therefore, was called on to give an account of their stewardship to the country, what an swer could they make to these stetements? He (Lord Duncan) had, he trusted, said sufficient to justify the motion, and he should now only suggest the remedy in conclusion. It was that the control of Parliament should be called in; and that the management of the Woods and Forests should be subjected to annual investigation. In a word, that the gross receipts of that department should be paid into the Exchequer, and no money paid out on its account without the sanction of a vote of the House of Commons. He had no doubt he t,pehe x sho e u a ld es be the y told thatar t h ese were casual expenses— the in question; and t h at as they happened in an e unfortunate peri od the y were not li kely to happen again. management ths 1798,is the p prov ed that such had been I a tl always s. the in 1711, l a 7 s e l l w , it h was the so in sfwtheresewasplain and simpl e: pu bli c ducts en revenues. was so in 1850, on t h e s h owing of the a a n n od t Noble Lord a t the head of the Government. (The Noble Lord read extracts to that effect from the report of the Royal Commission of 1711; from that of the finance Committee, June 8, 1798 ; and from the speech of Lord John Russell, Feb. 22, 1850.) He asked the House, under these circumstances, what reliance could be placed on the miscellaneous estimates under the present system of management; and appealed to lion. Members whether he had not fully established a justification for his mo tion. The Noble Lord concluded by moving:—Whereas it appears by returns laid before this House, and before the Select Committee of Woods, Forests, Works, 84c.., that during a period of seven years (from 1842 3 to 1848-9) the gross income derived from the possessions and laud revenues of the Crown has amonnted to 2,446,7851., and that out of this sum only 774.0001. has been paid into the public account at the Exchequer; and whereas during the same period it appears that a sum amounting to 1,672,7851. has been withheld for charges of collection and management, and for other expenses charged upon the said revenues, it is expedient, with a view to place the expenditure of this branch of the public service under the more immediate control of Parliament, that the gross income derived from the said revenues should hereafter be paid into the Exchequer, and that the necessary expenses for collecting and managing the same should be voted by this House, upon estimates to be annually submitted to Parliament by her Majesty's Government. Mr. HUME seconded the motion. Lord SEYMOUR slid he was no more responsible for the management of the office of Woods and Forests previous to 1849, than any other Member of the House. , •'H arr.) He confessed, when ho entered e hear.) upon his duties in that year, he imagined, after all he had heard, that he should find the revenue arising from Crown lands very much reduced, and the value of the land which had reverted to the Crown seriously impaired. however, en referring to thr, returns on the subject, he discovered that the revenues were not in that lamentable and deplorable condition in which his Noble Friead, had represented them to be. Toe gross revenue seising from Crown lands in 1789, was 19,6001.; io 1799 it bad grovel, to 21,600/.; in 1809, 42,0001.; in 1819, 120,0,e1g in 1829, 183,100/.; in 1839, 188,4001. L . and - .1" 184 9 and 1850 to 203,3001. (paid into the and 200,0001.) Under the authority of Parliament, the rentt of the land revenue were whol'y diverted from the F s. ~c hequer for the purposes of the improvements in Regent' treet and the Strand; in 1837, these purposes hall°,g, been accomplished, the surplus rents were nesde aol, able in aid of ways and means, and continued annually te be so ever since. Between the years 1529 and 183 9 ne t ' tain light-houses, belonging to the Crown, wor e 11 ; 3 , 5 e . (erred to the Trinity Board, by which the rental 0. te, Crown property was diminished upwards of 10,0001. P, e `. annum. The Irish land revenue was transferred to t s n; Commissioners of Woods in 1827. In 1828 it sw °u i e e io to 56,400/; in 1829 to 60,800/.; in 1539 to 53,200'ire, 1849 to 54,200/. The greater part of the Irish lea uOf ‘.enue consisted of feefarm, or unimProvable re nts: o f which there had been sold, in the aggregate newtio:e 6,000/. per annum since the transfer. The sSe°tch cood g revenue was transferred to the Commissioners of % 9.50 t o n 1832. Iw 1831-2 it amounted to 14,9001; iu 18 4 ~ , i , 26,8001. The revenue of the Isle or Man oral VP; f rred to the Commissioners of Woods in 1827-Si; i , 1827-8 it amounted to 1,400/. ; in 1829-30 to 2, l() % z et 1839-40 to 5,4001.; and in 1849-50 to 5,0001. He t h° , -r nir that o that summary, though necessarily brief, Ott of t show that the affairs of the department bed , been n so grossly mismanaged as the representations:: As ) the subject might have left the House to suer s o et he happened to have been in town attending polo bit , and otherwise occupied here during the past Ye ti c r ; t he attention had been turned more to the prop ertY o ' et ry. _Crown in London than to its possessions in the et bro 111 ; i N a o L w o , e the Crown rents, from the property of the slit or London amounted in the year ending on the t est Vlareh, 1850, to 137,885/. The cost of collectil4ooo revenue was only I,oool—(hear, hear.) At sl o t e ,, 00 there was not such bad management there. e`votee came . __ to the statement of his Noble Friend, wh ° t flerti House that the gross income of the Crown P . d b e ea during the seven years to which their attention be d to e during ,'specially directed amounted to 2,446,785 L, s n e bee those years only 774,000/. of that sure hbe wee paid into the Exchequer, his Noble Friend „to time adding that a sum of 1,672,000/ bad b at tee to n oth% 00 0 expended, of which expenditu re he seemed fiilFl'est, that the House bad not been sufficiently inforrnen;oted somehow or other, those funds had altogetbereeePo', tee without the knowledge of Parliament and a,.1) be proper rs exercise of its control. He had, theneede of land place to observe, that the balance to the cre el or revenues of the Crown amounted in the ra°" lo be April,.,. 1849, to 145.269/., and that sum wa s „ e el; 116,920/. for the Victoria-park , whi ch d ducted from the 1 672,000/. referred to in the ' t r ice of of his Noble Friend. There was aof ! og e no part of the expenses of the land revenue. .'"„cr.o• done by Act of Parliament, and was as clear 0 0 leis, ati°" as any vote of the House of Commonl* d c oal' then, reduced the sum of which his Noble Frie n . e a' tion of it. But beyond this there plained to 1,410 000/ which nting P r ' r ble ~ was accou s ides ceriainlf 1 , 1 o lis portion fixed by Act of Parliament with w e y e rec er House of Commons could not Cr ow interfere—there" sir, was a c' bic b the manent charges on the land revenues of the te port, and under the authority pointed by old Acts of Parliament, as old as the the re Charles, which were set forth in the apPendix i t h ° o ,el i paid in the course of the seven years. ParlialOi'irectiOg sad recently interfered with those funds b fl u ecri - dillf , the application of money for improvements ill r 0 0 ° and for augmenting the fund known by th c _ to tlii i i Queen Anne's Bounty. That expenditure ryas extent of 78.000/., which, added to th e be de' already mentioned, gave a total of 216,001. th i s t 136 For all m est i ducted further from the 410.000/. present officers of the department were V ,n,°-ptieir_ I esponsible—t hey were old transactions for wl:rooter mem, itself was responsible. Nothing cou ld bed t° fr e than that; and having said so much, be wie , t e mind the House that last year his Noble Friencirsitos. head of the Government had ahovvn himself most tart of these 138.600. at ive , to divide the Board of Works from the f loe ° ded e and Forests and Land Revenue, and reconoveri,roida for• should be brought in and the exPer ige o t Wo‘,„'" . by votes of that House The department TresselJ„' and Forests would then b e . subordinate to the for Ir moot. Fo It seemed evils which his Noble Friend stated would be tn,"iegle; the Bill that was himselftro him, t h h e e n i , 3ai thatght the say pbreo pwears il : e xi d:: i, ei tte. : ; proposed in the last sessioa.oool: P o b e ; come as well acquainted as he could with thellueesere, in order to be of use in the discussion of I l i on eeer' e that___ e might be introduced on the subjent - "" ( e on° sll* " f t) H e,... was il glad. during the few months tbat he cool o q . e i th L e t e purpose, not only to make himself actin s l u ei o f O t to details of the department, but to eisitns latereforef,„ forests as he possibly could. Be intended, t, thou gle . P t, take art in the consideration of the Bill; elO of Wor; ts every assistance in might be placed at the head of the Be ard e cted ° l e t • therefore, probably not immediately con rl d to t a',, the with r a eg e ll , r h e . e ,L a b l ie eel Woods and Forests he should still be g la d to b °t r , P. tamed might a strong conviction that, though , e ee o° d e ' t. be brought generally from ne o e n te s d c w o t u t l b d tb n e otdeti ye a W s Y e ' 0 " I, g erac e l3 o t re ° l l al re p th er el o m he notice of Parliament, yet surely the 1 1 ° Il eot eilS 6 , ° 3 orniallte " f t he iii i) o , revenues of the Crown and the royal deal collection wi t a h n d all iin i tg e i v a ould be, for instance, the drainage s ° 5 S I C : 5 4tb' hi rc r ti on et'u n tY , the repair of a tarnebottse .- s ip 0 t- i t b, ~ c ontribution for the maintenance of * ro ad oor I lace, assistance for the drainage of 10'1/%oold 13° 0 exercise any effectual control. They ri ii ni g o sure 6 t bei utra d. and principles, they might take — N ish " t o „ m. r ing against the infringement of those xere ise a ll ight, on the Mass of the transactions, ' vita it iti effectual control, but they could not interfere occe ed re details; if they did they would probably setter Balled the undertaking. The House had much befog Orr.ert to some good principle, and insist on it 9 p ot fi S5 0 . out. ri,.. regretted that the Committee dr ow the pr o some broad and general principle, showing t ow it fli b i g a l pe e rty of the Crown might be managed, showing 1 03 0 if " b - e r h bestbest improved. It the House wisbedttboolight t„94, to improve the Crown property, he e o cl l' o d must The law go back to the report of 1,., see .... 0 u law expenses incurred certaini/ ~e d Po, who Oa° enormous but when the House rou e g eed. , or ne much Crown property had bees re, e ct ° s ee ' o9 ed how much had been lost, they wow 00 old Dot ground for this great outlay. The r esole' d coo l o is by his Noble Friend would be ineffectiee, en , i bis ~,., , r O., . 0 ~.. be carried eut, as Parliament could no for ne elonseele note expenditure. It would be better tu.he 0: U . l ) - 0 •.. 0 3 i g Aber permit t the Bill to be brought in, dividinrel" la, frfm the Works, so that all the expendt“" the ..," no confided to one of these departmeets, Whi l e et gir ie en would o become a mere source of reven,„Llee'Des !An t ea d übt true that the metropolitan improvee-beir joie ba d undertaken by the Woods and Works il l a t re eent le Be pacity, and that the security of ,the I°,o leorithll'roech been mortgaged for the executon of t h ", - ,b ooe broach would admit also that the facility with which esP.ttoe; was able to borrow money which the, ° " it ,,ele t ° ,,, too hail led to proceedings which it Was divide t'-eetit° and d he proposed to accomplish this by uig-the occ-,,,,r, departments. It certainly appeared foal ° e ta g last Jod as ras• a r b evenue and expenditure of the For : n ditare o l t ed his Noble Friend, that th e e e l if he ~i ° thit the incom y income were very nearly balanced; e t o fitieber to the end of the Forests' accounts, he W I) the there given t were sums to be received Or sid, tr op, di, as thate the navy which had not yet beep ll3 l3 , fro°, t he was the chief source of ii 3c° , to sink , forests,re ex it seemed to him to be an odd way d g ot 11 ",, for expenditure and the income before you e c i i D ot Pa,l'itir -0• 11: t t se—(Laughter.) The AdmiraltY c",. It 1 / 13 2bick imber until it arrived at the dockyaAutioa The impliedpossible for the House to agree to 9 , 7 reli o e oo / . bfi cl Tv , what was not the fact, that 1. 6 ot. f th e withheld without the knowledge of pan es . wr ests , ° , b the real requirements of the case and the le , to g go' t o-. public y VOCeee" ii r 00 C cf ,, r , service would be best met b m il/ of which Lord J. Russell gale Potle„diogly 0361, "cement of the session. He would aoo ° ` l ot to nye asaa amendment, for leave to bring i f o t i l e w ood% ,ii , ent 0 _ better provision for the manage r° s o for ,t l) . ,„hch forests and land revenues of the Crovvib,, j ot or " tf er reetion of the public works. This was t he _.,d i nto he had spoken, which divided the present bolo ; , Y departments. e. resolut'°- 00 Mr temp, * 11 - said the first part of the which Do jo , Glared that certain results had taken F i bi t c h s 't tbe g r „ e8 , 8 0 0 0 could deny. The second part affiroe"_l;equer, and "Pre come ought to be paid into the Pcvooeur in that ei le, there be any person who would not v o ce that tai position? Ile advised th© HoUse t ° u e the 'Pa s. ' of was before soietioo When the Gover B - Il nmen t tb would be t 1 •Is nee e re seen how fur the detat e.ere,_,,ri the Noble Lord the Member for 13at ,d the collo') V Sir B. HALL thought the House tS`' T.Ord Pineafidilif:l much indebted to his Noble Friend ( ed t ae ' - 'l,oo' the assiduity with which he had Pur5e,,,,,d,..--(-- go into the Crow '"" aD ° • e management of the be o ust eli eo cheers.) As a metropolitan Member, t color eu°l r that h . eying been brought into frequen ~eds sod _ore with the Noble Lord at the bead of thusol-' edieetewol,o rests (Lord Seymour), he never saw re P e / i,ted 1 f ill AI 0 anxious to prevent the ebusee which ha:40,6.) to j times[eparment than the Noble Lord--(('%01005, boa; he had found the Noble Lord 01 ° s ' res ts,O t t.' that which was desirable for the public inte . ,:030 00,00 reference to the individuals in thet esten ° l be eo; l i e (Cheers.) The Noble Lord, bow ever, ha d !Pod. i' ll eel to controvert the statements of his Noble Fll roo gli i ot a vas sure that if the Crown propertY wer e u ,d bop by Year under the notice of Parliament, it would . 0 ° managed . and at less cost to the COVIOtry. t°` 1 or t bb Sir R WILLOUGHBY should rest his supl?„.sts 04 motion of Lord Duncan upon two grounds r l ,_i e I V. b W o P large sums were received and expended Y., le d 01 7 , 0 0 and Works, and secondly, that no check e xisted &not large portion of this expenditure. Se s ' i to ed loe wider range than his Nebl.. Friend, and b e Ao riog ti ro the sum received by the Woods and Forests e eoditooi last eighteen years was 7,340,0001., while tbe e 6 P . o3 o et• during that time had been no lees than j. 0 16 _ 0 It was no answer to say that a large portioo3 013 t, f0L.,.0 penditure was appropriated by Act of Parliirfirs 0,01:1, large proportion was not so applied. Sre,_ 6l oe r, I t g era actual surplus carried to the public Exell ec l t be eY - fi r.) altogether delusive, because it wee created 1,00,13'00 of selling the capital of this preperiy.---0" e a t s t , t o From 1831 to 1849 he believed that n ot 1 e3' 44 1,200,0001. of the capital had been sold. 1', 1.° foto 14 t, 1842 the capital sold amounted to 744,0001.; 0 , 0 lig ti e to 1849 it was 133,0001. A large sale 0 C r „ e 0 00 1 n. houses took place also in 1839, for which 3& o re i c e r obtained. When the Committee asked Air• t 0 e d . i 'be this 300,0001. was expended, they could g" 1 1 3 ' r answer than that it was expended unprocluctice Y o . ese, Board of Words tend Forests bad, i-O truth, hflooee'' cising incompatible functions. '.l hey reee iv i e- L014:; they paid money, they sold their capital, 011 " - Or rowed.—(Hear.) They had not only old dad" 1:, , ' ~..O.A _ , , ~.••