The Sun. — London, England, 1850-08-03 00:00:00

FRANCE. In February IA an order was given by the Go vernment to allow the luggage of passengers and small parcels of merchandise for Paris arriving by the ports of Calais, Boulogne, Havre, and Dieppe, to proceed without being examined until their arrival in the capital, but a condition was annexed to the order that the wag gon in which this luggage and merchandise were conveyed should be accompanied by two custom house officers. The Director-General of the Cus toms has just abolished this restriction, on the ground that a verification of the way-bill will be sufficient to show that no abstraction has taken place on the route. MM. Legres Devot and Auguste Gros have pre sented an amendment on the budget of receipts for 1851, proposing to reduce to 21. the price of passports for foreign countries fixed at 10f. by the decree of July 11,1840. GERMANY, The congress of the representatives of the rail ways assembled at Aix-la-Chapelle on the 29th ult., under the presidency of Dr. Rhades, of Stettin. The first question discussed was the proposition to establish a general system of insurance for the forty-six German railways represented by the pongress. But although the utility of such a measure was recogrAsed, it was represented that no. authority existed to come to a decision which would bind the shareholders, the representatives not having full powers so to do, and the congress con sequently only passed a resolution, expressing the wish that such an association should be established, with the mutual guarantee of the real and personal properties of the com panies. It was afterwards decided that each of the companies should draw up the statistics, which would be required to serve as the basis of the arrangement. A proposition for establishing a certain uniformity of tariff for the conveyance of goods on the railways from Cologne to Vienna was referred to a special committee, which was charged to make an early report. The Prussian Government has appointed M. d'Auerawald Chief President of the Rhenish pro vinces, Eichmann of the province of Prussia, M. de Flottewell of the province of Brandenburg, M. de Dut.s..hirg of the province of Wes•phalia, M. de Benin of the province of Posen, M. AVitzleben of the province of Saxony, and M. Manteuffel Vice-Presi dent of Keenigsherg. The Cologne Gazette, on authority of a letter from Berlin of the 29th ult., states that it is• now certain Olt Austria has invited the G?rman Governments to nominate seventeen envoys to the Germanic Diet. W read in a letter from Frankfort of the 29th ult. —" This morning M. Mathis opened the dispatches which 'Teal him as Plenipotentiary to the Congress, and all the representatives of the states which have adhered to the Prussian •Union withdrew with him. M; rle Petickes, who is a member of the Federal Com mission, will remain here. It is thought that Austria will withdraw the .members of tha Commission named by her. . MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (1: 1 rota the London New Price Current, Aug 2.) :f!UGAIL—To-day former rates were :supported for West. Ihelia Sugar, and a far buaieess was concluded, but better sorts yellow and grey were most in demand. The quantity sold. was 627, making. for .the week 2,t.:16 hiete, &v. The only public sale to-day was one of Bengal. 4EEINND.—The rates paid fur brown grocery lumps are 413 9d, standard lumps 50, tittlere, low to fine 49s sa to 53, double ale to 54. 6d; Ilembro Loaves 503 to 54J, anti double sis6l to 55s per cwt. Wet lumps continue iu good u_ wand, at from 463 63 to 475, and better sore at 47s 61 to 48s 6tl per cat, and only limited parcels are on offer. For pieces rates rule for low and mitt at 37e to 395, good to tine 40s to 45,. mind operations have been to a fair extent. In Bixards sales are. upon a large scale, but not a: any ad- • vanee; brown selling at 27s to 325, and ellow at 33s to 361. Prices have cetteed to decline for Treacle, and opera tions are larger than in the former week. We quote boiled from West India Molasses at 13s 6d to 14s 61, Patent 143 6d to 15s 6d, Golden Syrup at 16 ► to 18s, and there is a slight decrease of supply. For British Crushed Sugar prices rule at 27s to 28s 61. Wet lumps are quoted at 2ss to 263 Ed, but little has been done. For exporta tion, orders continue limited for Treacle at 11s 6d to 13s. A steady demand has been experienced for pieces at 24s to 26s fur low to fine, aad Bastards sell more readily at 13s to 19a for brown, and at 20s to 203 6d for yellow. For Loaves the export demand has been good, whilst former rates are well supported. We quote Turkey 1 to 5 lbs at 41s to 465, llecuhro 6 to 71hs 34s to 355, 10 to 10i ditto, at 333, 14 to 15 ditto 323 Tittlers 22 to . 30 ditto, 29s to 29s 6d, Prussian 40 to 45 ditto 283 to 23s 63, Dutch 10 :Cs 30 to 305 63, 6 diqe.234, and Belgian 10 ditto 213, In Foreign Crushed Sugar a good deal has been done, and prices rule firm, Dutch at from 24s to 25s 6d, superior at 26s to 235, and Belgian at from 24s 61 to 26s per cwt. MAURITIIIS.—A. much better &Bland has been expe rienced this week, and supplies have been less plentiful; the rates obtained are fully equal to those current pre viously, indeed in several cases 6d per cwt advance has been paid fur good and fine grocery. At auction 6,176 bags were all sold ; fine yellow wee: at 383 61 to 39s 6d, good mid to good 36e 6d to 38s, mid 35s to 365, low 34s to 34s 62, good to fine grey 36s 61 to 38s, infnior and mid 33s to 36 , , and good to fine brown 325 6d to 33s 6d per cwt. By private treaty several parcels have been disposed of at similar terms. INDIA.—This afternoon Bengal Sugar was in good deniaud, and at auction 2,500 bags sold at stiffer rates, fine white at 403 61 to 41s 6d, mid to good 383 6d to 40s. FonElGN.—There has been a fair business con cluded here in duty paid sorts by private treaty, yet holders are firm, and offer only a moderate quantity for sale, whilst previous rates are sus tained. At suer on .5,029 bags of Manilla were nearly all taken in at the full value, good greyish clayed at 36s 6d; a few lots were sold at 35s 6d to 365, and low dark broken Muscavado at 28s 6d to 293. At public sale 200 cases Manilla, in bond, were taken in at 17s 6d to 18s per cwt. The auctions at present advertised are small of all descriptions. MOLASSES.—West India cannot be obtained at any further reduction, still operations have been upon a small scale, and prices range from 13s to 163 for low to fine quality. East India met with little attention; and Ils to 12s per cwt is the value. COFFEE.—This afternoon there were sellers of Native Ceylon at rather lower rates, still sales are upon a limited scale at 42s to 423 61 for good ord. Of Plan tation 56 casks 42 bags at auction realised the former value, good went at 57s 6d to 6ls 6d, low mid 503 to 518 6d, fine flue ord 473 to 495, and inferior 438 to 465. Cocoa.—The market is still firm for West India, and none has been submitted to public sale daring the week. Operations have been to a fair extent by private treaty, and the value of Red Trinidad is now 42s to 478, grey 39s to 435, and Grenada from 383 to 46s per cwt. In Foreign operations have been to a fair extent by private treaty, but the rates paid are not above those of last week: At auction 403 bags of Para were however , taken in at 283, and 19 bags Bahia at the same price. • Tee.—There has again been a lart. ,, business trans acted in common and good ordinary Cougou, prices also continued to advance and rule at 11?sd to is per lb; holders also have much confidence, and do not offer an enlarged quantity for sale. Initsedium a good deal has been done at is Id to is 2d with not free sellers. Other sorts have been sold to a larger extent at Is 3d to is Bd, with a firm market. In the trade' for Green there lase been much activity, and rather higher rates had been obtained, still lower sorts were most in request by ship pers and home dealers, more especially Canton Gun powder and Young 'Tyson. Scented Caper has sold freely at full terms, and in Orange Pekoe a good bnsi - nest bas been done at the former value. At auction 7,400 pkgs of Tea were offered, and 3,300 sold. Recs.—The market for East India has presented quite a different appearance from the preceding week, the demand from speculators having nearly ceased, whereas few export orders .have been completed, and home dealers operated with much caution. Supplies • have been upon a larger scale, and prices exhi bit a reduction of 3d per cwt as compared with Friday last. At auction 5,230 bags Bengal were offered, a small" part only of which found buyers, ord white 9s 6d, mid and good mid 10s to- 10s 6d, fine I is 6d, very broken and dusty 8e 6d, and damaged 7s to 9s 6d. , Of .Madras 1,533 bags were nearly all taken in at 9s to ces 63 for fine yellow small barley kind, being above the value; a few lots sold at 9s for good'white, being rather cheaper. In all sorts • - • the private operations for the week do not exceed 4,000 bags. Previous terms are required for Patna, and a good demand exists at Ila to 16s; town dressed Carolina has been operated in with caution at 22s to 28.1, and Ameri can 193 to 20s. Of Sago none has been offered at auction this week, and private operations are small, at from 20s to 225. Sago Flour is still operated in with caution at 16; 61 to 17s per cwt. Of Arrowroot 200 pkgs were offered aCauctian—Bermuda sold at Is Bd, St. Vincent's 6d to Bd, Jamaica 6d to 7d, Grenada 3d; 13 pkgs fine East India 3d to 3-id, and 38 kegs .Grenada Tons les Mots 3d per lb. To-day there was no public sale of Rice, and little was done privately; mid and good white Bengal 9s 6d to I Is. SPICES.—On the part of holders of Black Pepper there is firmness, and none has been offered at auction this week, whilst a fair business has been concluded by pri vate treaty, Malabar at from aid to 3Ad, and Sumatra 23d to 3iel per lb. White is held for former terms, but few buyers are to be met with. The market is in a quiet position for Nutmegs, but sales have been upon a limited scale this week, brown 2s 4d to 3s 2d, better sort 3s 31 to 4s 4d, and fine limed 2s 8d to 2s 9d per lb. To-day at public sale 100 chests of Cassia Buds were taken in at 1008; 170 taws of African Ginger sold at a decline of 23 per cwt. and went at 34s for good.. CINNAMON.—There was little disposition evinced to purchase Ceylon of first quality at the quarterly sales, although importer; were disposed to realize, and submitted to a reduction on April rates of 2d to 3d per lb. The second and third descriptions met with little attention, and there was a decline of 2d, but low and course sorts were in good demand, and realized an advance of Id to 2d per lb. Of the quantity offered about 1,200 bales, &c. were sold. Of Teilicherry about half went at low rates. XLTPETRE.—To•ddy former rates were required for tea, but there was little desire evinced to oeera.e, d at public sale 1,7e0 nags"of Clic:zeta were all taken • 4s 6LI to 25s for 101 to 191' per cwt refraction, , 4 per cent. at 37s per cwt. Ckr.;-Operatieas -in East Indialave been done to . i t ~~- ~~ THE SUN, a fair extent by shippers and home dealers ; the rates paid are fully equal to last sale, and in some cases rather above. Prices are well sustained for Spanish, as there is no decrease of demand, and at auction 33 srns Guatemala were sold at from 2s 10d to 3s 8d for low lean Cortes to mid Sobres. For auction on the 14th instant nearly 900 serous are declared. SPIRITS.—There has bean a good deal done in East India Rum this week; bat prices remain low, and the sales are 600 puns at is 3d proof. A fair demand exists for Leeward Island, still holders were compelled to accept Is 4d to is 4-1 d proof, at which about 200 puns have been sold. Former terms are required for Jamaica, but.shippers or home dealers have operated with cau tion; prices for 30 to 36 per cent over proof, are 2s 6d to 3s 3d for low to good, fine 34 to 38 over 3s 4d to 3s 10d, and choice at 4s to 4s 4d per gallon. Demerara has been purchased with caution at from is lld to 2s 2d for 30 to 40 per cent over. In Brandy sales have exceeded those of last week, and holders were firm. We quote Cognac best brands of the vintage of 1349 at 4s 6d to 4a Bd, 1848 ditto 4s 7d to 4s 9d, 1847 ditto 5s 2d to 5a 4d. Geneva dull of sale at is 6d to is 7d for ord export sort, and fine is 9d to 2s 3d. In the value of British made Spirit there is still no variation. TALLOW.—This afternoon at public sale 700 casks Sydney Tallow sold at 32s 6d for low to fine, 650 pkgs South American 32s 3d to 353 6d per cwt. OlLS.—This afternoon at public sale 50 tuns pale Seal Oil taken in at 321 to 331; 258 casks Palm Oil sold at 28s to 28s 6d; 140 pkgs Cocoa Nut Oil taken in at 29s for Calcutta and Cochin, but 64 cases sold at 25s to 275. THE COUNTRY MARKETS. WAKEFIELD, Auc. ..—The supplies are less than for some weeks. The trade, influenced by the fine weather, is very quiet to-day, acd the business limited. Wheat is is per qr. cheaper, whilst other articles sell in retail at late prices. New. Old. WHEAT, per qr. 60Ibs per bushel:— s. a. s. Suffolk. Essex, and Kent, red ... 42 to 44 Ditto, white ... ... ... 45 49 Norfolk and Hunts., red ... ... 41 —43 Ditto, white ... ... ... 44 46 Lincolnshire and Cambridge, red ... 40 42 Ditto, white ... ... ... 44 46 Yorkshire, red ... ... ... 40 42 Ditto, white ... ... ... 44 46 to Dantzic and Bonighurg, white .. 40 —42 —— - Lower Baltic and Hamburgh, red... 33 41 - Mediterranean, red ... ... 34 36 - BARLEY, per quarter of 8 bushels:— Norfolk and Suffolk— ... - Lincolnshire and Yorkshire - Scotch ••• ••• ••• ••• Grinding per 30 stone ... ... 19 —2L —— - Foreign ... 29 —25 —— - BEANS, per quarter of 8 bushels 631 b : Small, fine 23 31 - Ticks Foreign ... - OATS, per stone:— Keating . 9d to 10d 01 to 01 Feeding ... 81 to 91 Od to Od Foreign ... 81 to 9 , 1 01 to Od SHELLING. per load of 2611 b ... 22 —23 MALT, per load of 6 imperial bushels 34 36 PEAS, per Imperial Quarter Blue and white boilers Grey and Feed 25 - 27 - - - . 23 - 25 --- ARR, Qrs. Wheat 8,350 VALS. Barley Rapeseed ... ... ... Shelling ... ... ... 50 Linseed .. ... .. Malt ... ... • . ... Flour ... ... ... ... .... Oats Beans... ... Peas ... ... Tares... ... - I EXETER, Arc.. 2.—Corn—There were several complaints in the market to-day that the wheat had been attacked by rust. In case of the backward wheats being thus attacked, the yield of grain is light in proportion to the severity of the attack, and the retarded growth of the grain. Where the grain has be.. come nearly ripe before the attack of rust, it will suffer little injury, but the straw will be more or less damaged. There were also complaints that the wheat had been laid in wooded and hilly districts by the late stormy and wet weather.. From these circumstances, as may be supposed, holders of wheat did not press sales. Some bargains were however made in grain At the following quotations :—Wheat, 5s 9d to 6s 3d; barley, :34 to 3s 3d. We did not hear of any sale of oats. Cattle— There was a middling supply of beasts, and a pretty fair supply of sheep (815) at market to-day, and there was a good attend. ance of purchasers. Fat beef, 8s to 8s 6d per score ; barreners, 4s 6d to 5s 6d ; cows and calves, 8/ to 12/ ; fat wethers, 5d per lb; ewes, 41el per lb. NORTHALLERTON, JULY 31.—Wheat, 5s 9d to 6s 03; red 4s 93 to 5s 4d ; oats 15 10d to 2s 6d ; beans 33 3d to 3s 6d ; barli 2s 6d to 2s Id per bushel. RIPON, Ann. I.—White wheat 53 6d to 6s Od, red ditto 5s 03 to 5s Id ; beans, 3s 6d to 4s Od per bushel ; barley nominal ; oats 1 -'s Cd to 21s per qr. KNARESBOROUGH, JULY 31.—Wheat 5s 6d to 6s Od; beans 3s 9d to 4s Od per bushel ; barley 24s to 26s ; oats, 18s to 22s per qr. ScARBOROUGH. Aun. I.—Red wheat 5s 9d to 6s 03, white ditto 6s 3d to 6s 6d per 5 stones; black oats aid to 9d, white ditto 9d to lid per stone ; malting barley I9s to 21s, grinding ditto 17s to 19s per qr. of 32 stones; superfine flour 37s to 38s, seconds ditto, 30s to 33s per sack of 20 stones. WETHERBY, Aun. I.—White wheat 16s 03 to 173 6d. red ditto 14s 6d to 16s Od per load ; barley 2is to 26s per qr. ; beans lOs 03 to 12s Od per load ; oats BAd to 90. INVERNESS ' JULY 30.--Wheat, per qr, weighing 621 b per bushel, 3's Id to 40s Od ; barley, per quarter, weighing 5-11 b per bushel, 19s to 20s Od; oats, per quarter, weighing 421 b per bushel, 22s Od to 00s Od. Oatmeal. per imperial boll, 16s 6d to Os Od ; ditto second, 15263 to Os Od ; barley meal, 12s 8d to Os Od ; peasemeal, 14s Od to Os Od; bran, per stone, Os 6d to Os Od ; first flour, per 2501 b., 34s Od to 36a i d ; second ditto, 26s Od to 2t3s 0d ; oatmeal, best, per stone of 141 b imperial, is 83 to Os Od; ditto second, Is 6d to Os Od; barley meal, Is 2.1 to 03 01 ; peasetheal, Is 4d to Os Od ; first flour, 2s 4d cash, 2s 8d credit ; second ditto, 2s Od cash, 2s 3d cre dit. Potatoes, per stone, 93 to Od ; beef, per pound, 4d to 6d; veal, 4d to 3d; mutton, 4d to 6d; pork, 3d to 4d; fowls, each, 10d to 12d; chickens, per pair, 12d to 16d; ducks, each. Od to Od; eggs, per dozen, 6d to 7d; butter, fresh, per lb, 8d to Id ; ditto, salt, 9d to 10d ; croudie (curds), 2d to 21(1; four-pound loaf, cash, 53 to 6d ; ditto, credit, sid to 6k3; coals, per cwt, 9d ; hay, per stone, 7d to Bd. MINING INTELLIGENCE. COPPER ORES SOLD AT CAMBORNE, AUG. I.—Total, 4,518 tons ; average produce, 7 ; quantity of fine copper, 318 tons 12 cwt ; amount of sale, 20,3611 18s 6d ; average standard, 102! 18s Od. Last Sale Standard, 10016 s Od ; pro duce, 7i. Average price per 21 cwt, 41 9s 6d. COPPER ORES SOLD AT SWANSEA, JULY 25.—Total, 1,956 tons ; average produce, 16 ; quantity of fine copper, 313 tons 1 cwt ; amount of sale, 22,6261 Os 6d. COPPER ORES FOR SALE AT REDRUTH, AUG. B. Cam Brea 706—Tywarnhayle and Nancekuke 692—Par Consols 317—Wheal Buller 233—Levant 166—Wellington Mines 150—Alfred Consols 146—West Wheal Treasury 114 West Wheal Seton 95—Wheal Agar 93—Wheal Vyvyan 56 Botallack 42—South Wheal Fortune 27—Michell's Ore 25 W heal Prosper 23—Total 2 882. COPPER ORES FOR SALE A? SWANSEA, AUG. B. Burra Burra 820— Cuba 388—Kapunda 197—Burra Burra 180—Spanish 131—Waterloo Slag 67—Kaw-aw-56—Gloster Slag 4—Total, 1,843 tons. COAL MARKE' '.... , YESTERDAY. Buddle's W. Hartley 14s 3d Degbies Hartley l3s 9d Chester Main 139 Od Davison'sWe4tHartley 14s 3d Hasting's Hartley l4s 3d Holywell ... 143 Ocl Ord's Maiu ............135 Od 'Vanfield Moor ......... 13s Od Canfield Moor Butes... I3s Odl west Hartley Hetton Haswell l6s 3d Russell's Hetton Stewart's Whitwell Bentley .. 14s 01 Howdon Kelloe lss 3d South Kelloe l4s Od Whitworth l3s Od Wylam Wall's End, &c. I Cowpan Hartley Acorn Close Bewicke and Co. Gogforth ... Walker l3s lid l Cardiff ... .. Briddyll Shipa at market: 50. BANK OF ENGLAND. (From last night's Gazette.) An Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria.cap. 32. fer the Week ending on Saturday, the 27th day of July, 1850. ISSUE IMPARTMENT. Notes 155ued........ 30,181,795 Government debt 11,015,100 Other securities .. • • 2,984,900 Gold coin and bullion 15,982,537 Silver bullion • • . • • • 219,258 £30,181,795 I 30,181,795 3fIRSIIALL, Chief Cashier. Dated the Ist day of August, 1950. BANKING DEPAZTZKN T. Proprietors'capital.. 14,553,000 Rest • • • ...... 3,187,155 Public deposits (in cluding Exchequer, Commissioners of National Debt, Say ings-banks, and Di vidend accounts).. 5,022,745 Other deposits • • • • 10,404,440 Seven day and other _ _ . Government securi ties (including Dead Weight Annuity) • . 14,28.5,583 Other securities • . . 10,166,075 Notes •.•• • • • • ...... 9,421,020 Gold and silver coin.. 659,926 bills.• •• .. ........ 1,3G5,264 £31,532,604 £34,532,604 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. Dated the Ist day of August, 18: RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. BRISTOL, AuG. 2. &root Exunsfeaft.—The ;market has again receded in price, and busines was rather slack, being principally con fined to the Great Western, Bristol and Exeter, and Midland Stock, the latter of which was done at 34 c., being a decline of I /2 from yesterday's quotation. LIVtItPOOL, Ana. 2. STOCK Excrimmit.--There has been a moderate business done at our share market to-day. The transactions were as follow :—Lancashire and Yorkshire, Consol., .37—London and North-Western, 111 c.—Ditto, New Quarters, 15-16 p. —Ditto, Fifths, 13-16, p.—Ditto, Quarters (C), 141 Midland, 34—Ditto, Halves, 24%—South -Eastern Dover, 14—Ditto (No. 4), Registered , 43 , 4—Dutch Rhenisanh 5%. BIRMINGHAM, AUG. 2.- STOCK ExCHANGL—We have little change to notice in the share market. A small business has been done, but rates generally were atlast and Nth uetatoiorns4Tell or North-Western, y b t u r y an er s ; actions rep orted were—London silhOrl;sbsellers, l and , w b e u r y e e d r o s , n : e 3 a 3 4 4 ; yB se d il uis e . rs, d 4l4.... and Birming h am (A) , b u y ers, ; no South Staffordshirea sellers. ESCAPE OF A CONVICT FROM YORK GAOL AND ms RacarrunE.-0a Thursday morning week, shortly after seven o'clock, George Marshall, who was sentenced to be transported for ten years at the last City sessions, effected his escape from the day yard of the House of Correction, it is supposed by climbing to the top of a door, and reaching to the top of the wall, about five yards in height, from which he descended on the other side by fastening together the shreds of his rug and thus sliding down. His jacket was found in the moat, and it is supposed that he went to the house of a female named Gibson, living in "Hagworm's nest," Skeldergate, where he was supplied with another jacket. Policeman Hudson met him on the bridge at twenty minutes past seven. On seeing the officer, Marshall imme diately ran down North-street, entered Mr. Ackroyd's yard, and leaped into the river off the wall. A sandman named Benson took him into his boat, and on being requested to bring the fclon ashore, Benson said he would have nothing to do with it, and got into another boat, leaving Marshall alone, when he culled across the river, and got into Mr. j Jackson's garden. where he was stoppe-d by some workme 1, and ultimately taken into custody by sergeant Turner. The escape was immediately detected, as the under-gaoler (Rey nokls) arrived at the scene of capture directly after it had taken place.—Eastern Counties Herald. . LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, AUGUST 3, 1850. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, August 2 . The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack at Five o'clock. BOROUGH GAOLS BILL. This Bill was read a second time. MUSEUMS AND LIBRA.RIES BILL. This Bill was read a second time. PETITIONS. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition praying for the enfranchisement of oopyholds. lIYDff-PARK. Lord BROUGUA NI understood that it was intended to pave the road from Hyde-park-corner to Kensington with huge blocks of granite is the nature of paving stones, and he wished to know if it was true or not, and if a similar operation was to take place in the park itself, which would render it more safe for waggons to go upon, but not for persons to ride upon. This was one of the consequences of the new law that the Attorney- General was the sole judge of all cases be tween the subjects and the Crown, and exercising judicially a more than judicial power, a power which no attorney had any right to`assumo ; and the Attorney- General was, according to Sir Robert Filmer, only the attorney to the King, and he exercised it by giving judgment in his chamber in favour of his client. There was no petty prince in Germany, Turkey, or Russia, who was more absolute than the Sovereign of this realm, if the opinion of the Attor ney-General was to be taken in opposition to the opinions of those lawyers who had been engaged in hundreds more cases than the Attorney or Solicitor- General. He had never received more heartfelt thanks than he had from the persons engaged in this case. There was dead silence in this House and in the other House when the case was mentioned, which proved the power there was when the name of Prince was uttered. The LORD CHANCELLOR had not on a former oc casion thought fit to eater on the discussion, because he thought it was irregular. He did not think it right to express an opinion so long as the case might come before the House in another manner. When his Noble Friend said the other House was silent, he thought his Noble Friend could not have consulted the ordinary channels of information, because the Attorney-General had given an answer which ho considered perfectly legal and satisfactory, as' he should be prepared to show when the subject should be brought before their Lord ships in a regular manner. As to the quotation of his Noble Friend from Sir R. Fame:, it merely went to show that the Attorney-General represented the public as an attorney represented his client. He represented the pub lic, but in a case of this sort did these people represent the public and complain of public wrong? They did not. If they were private persons they could proceed by indictment if they had suf fered wrong ; if they came as representatives of tho public, the Attorney-General was the proper judge. This park was the property of the Crown, and he took it that tho Attorney-General had exercised a sound discretion and wa3 responsible for what he had done. Let his Noble Friend then bring this before the House in a regular manner, and he would not fail to prove to the satisfactionof every impartial man that the Attorney- General had exercised a sound discretion.—(Hear, hear.) Lord BROUGH Al`ri said it was a common course to raise questions of this sort on presenting a petition, and if his Noble Friend hal no better foundation for his law than for his knowledge of the rules of Parliament he would fail in proving his case. He had a perfect right on presenting a petition to open the v. hole case. No one ever denied that the Attorney-General had the right to act as he had dune, but . the whole question was as to dis cretion, and he repeated that this was not a free country if the Attorney-General refused access to the courts of law and 6 (pity. The LORD CHANCELLOR explained. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE rose to answer the question about paving. fie contended that his Noble and Learned Friend had departed from the orders of the House in entering into a discussion as to the functions of the Attorney -General on the presentation of a peti tion. In answer to the question, he had to state that the persons who had to erect the build:rig hail undertaken to pave the way from the gate to the building. Lord BROUGHAM—Not the road? The Marquis of LANSDOWNE—Not the road. Lord BIiOUGHAM was very glad to hear it, and placed the most implicit trust in the statement of his Noble Friend. certain sum to support the dignity of tho Crown, and every particular was stated most minutely. A state ment was made of the necessary expenses, and upon that statement a certain sum was voted. The sum total was dependent upon the details. If the details altered in the course of time, might not the sum total alter too. Why was the whole sum voted? Was it not because it was composed of the details? The reason why the esti mate was made with these details was, that Parliament might be able to apportion a certain sum. He wanted to be sure that there was no diminution in the sala ries, or in the number of the office-bearers, and that the same officers were employed, and the salaries given. That was his object. If there was no check, every one of these officers might be placed in abeyance. Parlia ment had a right to inquire into this subject. He had made similar motions over and over again in the other House, with the countenance of Noble Lords who sat opposite. But a singular change had come over his Noble Friends. There was now great delicacy enter tained with regard to these subjects. That used not to be so when he led them to the attack in the House of Commons. When he moves for a statment of the droits of the Admiralty, did any one suggest that he was doing an unconstitutional act ? He urged that, session after session, until at length the Government gave in, and now it was regularly returned to Parliament. Lord ICION fEAGLE—That's merely a return of a branch of the public service. Lord BROUGHAM said it was not so at the time ho referred to. It was in consequence of similar perse vering motions, that Mr. Pitt consented to give up pri vate property of the Crown to the value of 3,000,000/. That was just after the battle of Trafalgar. Since then the whole details of the Duchies of Cornwall and Lan caster were produced regularly, and he thought there should be a similar annual return of the expenditure of the civil list. _ _ Lord MONTEAGLE said that his statements were supported by the fact. The salaries of the great officers of State had been the subject of Parliamentary inquiry and the civil list went to the Crown. Ia the reign of George the Third and George the Fourth debts of the Crown amounting to 3,700,0001. were to be paid by Parliament. They had then upon such applications a right to inquire into the expenditure of the civil list, but he thought his Noble and Learned Friend wrong when he said that because they inquired then they should in quire now. He saw no necessity for any such inquiry, even if it wore a I,gitimate subject for their Lordships to entertain. _ _ The Marquis of BREADALBANE said that when the civil list was granted regulations were drawn.up re specting the number, the amount of the payment of all salaries connected with the great officers of state, and no payments were read; and no alterations could take place without the counter-signature of the Queen and three Cabinet Ministers. The Lord Chamberlain had no power whatever to make any alt.rations. And it should be also borne in mind by their Lordships that no less a sum than 12,000 i. per annum, out the civil list reve nues, was paid as an income-tax. He should therefore oppose thy: motion being put. Lord BROUGH A. ~ .1-1), ) you mean a vote of censure on me?—(Cries of " Order, order.") The motion then dropped. MERCANTILE MARINE BILL. Earl GRANVILLE moved the second reading of this Bill, and expre3sed a hope that no opposition would bo offi:rel on the present oce.lsion,particularly as persons of the highest intelligence and respectability bad given evidence before the C. , romitteo that such a Bill would have a vary gre•:t infiaence on the morality of naval officers. Lie th , .iught that nothing could be more effec tually beneficial than that captains and mates should be subject to the super vision of the Board of Trade, Ile did not wish at that I Ate hour to en:er into the details of the Bill, but, while he hawed that it would not then be ob jected to, he would be pteparel to discuss any objection able point in Cotninitt.io. Elrl WALDEGRAVE said that he would not oppose tho second reading, though there were some clauses to him objectionable. _ _ _ EArl COLCHESTER joined in the same sentiment, and hopLA that tho Bill would be rererrcd to a Select Committee en Monday, which suggestion was agreed to. The Bill was then ryal a second time. The Turnpike Acts Continuance Bill was read a third time, and passd. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, August 2. CRIME AND OUTRAGACTSIRELAND) CON- TIN UA&C E BILL. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. NA VIER supported the Bill. He was desirous of legislating in the most equitable spirit towards all parties in Ireland; and ho hoped that, at all events, a very short period would elapse before she House of Commons would honestly and fairly legislate with a view to the settle ment of the question of landlord and tenant.—(Hear.) But when the Right Hon. Baronet (SieeW. Somerville) came to ask the House for a measure which did not sus pend the constitution of Ireland—(Hear, hear)—which did not seek to interfere with the privileges of any honest man, which only asked for the continuance for a short and limited period of powers which, if called into action at all, would only be called into action in the event of disaffection and disturbance again arising in Ireland, he (Hr. Napier) did not feel himself justified in withhold ing his support from such a measure. He thought it was quite right that the House should extend that power which they sought to thu Government. Iu legislating IT Ireland, it was their deity to take the country as they found it. It was their duty to proceed with temperance and faircess—to look at both sides, and with a just regard to the circumstances of the p nor. With regard to the murder of Mr. Mauleverer, to which the Hon. Gentleman had referred, he had looked into the circumstances of the case, and had in quired into the eroceediugs el that gentleman for many years back, and he was unable to find one unjust or cruel act on the part of the victim of that bar barous murder. All his proceedings had been marked with the utmost moderation and temperance. The Hon. and Learned Getleman then went at some length into the; case of Mr. Mauleverer and others, in order to show that there was a deep-seated agrarian combination among the peasantry against the rights of property. Mr. FLUME rose to order. They were at present called upon to vote on a Bill for the remedy of present evils, and Hon. Gentlemen were going into circum stances which had happened long ago. Mr. NAPIER defended the course he was taking. Hon. Members had attacked the landlords, and oppor tunity ought to be allowed fur defence. He should give his cordial support to the present measure, and also to their Landlord and Tenant Bill, when it came on. Lord J. RUSSELL said he was anxious to address the House, because the Hoe. Gentleman who seconded the motion had refused to grant a continuance of these powers to the Government for a limited time, on grounds with which he (Lord John Russell) could not agree. What the Hon. Gentleman in tact said was this — You have had a law subsisting for some time by which you have changed the state of society from one of pre valent crime and outrage, and of terror on the part of peaceable inhabitants—from one of murder and assassi nation, frequently and repeatedly committed, into one of peace, order, and tranquillity. Crime has greatlrdimi nished ; these outrages have been far less fre quent than formerly—the peaceable inhabitants, whether they be landlords, tenants, or labourers, have felt greater confidence than they have hitherto done— the country has consequently had those means of im provement which it did not possess when crime and those et undeserving hnpadotewdye or powers. —( Hear.) outrage were the rules and orders of society; and c n eo d w o d fh e declare o r o because you have done this, and had powers entrusted to you by Parliament which we do not allege you have abused in establishing that tranquillity,dgtnooirofdaatnnshmtkoo means —a e continuance the new at eirnr.ask.—(Hear.) GovernmentaritlN con fidence; and therefore wo refuse you such a continuance un worthy of the powers for which you now come forward that_ar(etuhulatf at t our r er w) ly a slibyeowth e e rs w il e o r u e s e t r b e e fu f s e i r ng ere to r a m n e s an a to j s u a s y tifi th ca a t t i s o u n ch o p f o continued, but at the same time, when the Hon. Gentle man described them as subversive of the constitutional rights of the Irish people as British subjects, he did mean to contend that that was an erroneous de scription of the powers which were given by the Crimes and Outrages Act.—(Hear, hear.) It was not an Act giving powers which in 1833 and 1834 were granted by Parliament to prevent any discussion in public meetings of any alleged grievances of the Irish people.—(Hear.) It was not an Act like former insur rection Acts, by which even peaceable inhabitants of a district were prevented going out at nights. It was not - an Act which at all, as he thought, affected the legitimate rights of the innocent and peace able. On the contrary, it was an Act which gave power to the Lord-Lieutenant, when a district was in a state of disturbance, and when offences against the law were frequently committed in it, to pro claim that district, and thereupon certain con sequences followed. The Lord-Lieutenant might place in that district an increased constabulary, which would be protection and security to the peaceable inha bitants of that district, and at the same time orders might be issued that fire-arms should not be held by any one except by persons to whom licences were granted for that purpose ; and those powers were not granted to local magistrates or persons at all affected by the local or political pas sions of the die:tint, but they were committed to per sons named by the Executive Government.—(Hear, hear.) It was then not a right description of this mea sure to say that it was subversive of the constitutional rights of the people. He was quite ready to admit that such powers should not be asked unless they were necessary for the welfare of the people for whom they were enacted; but he thought enough had been said on this subject to induce him to observe that the Govern ment would not ask for powers for preserving the public peace if they did not feel confident that the ordinary law, without such extraordinary powers, would not enable them to maintain that peace.—(Hear.) At the very commencement of the present Government it would be recollected they proposed the continuance of an Arms Act, which they found existing on the statute book, from the month of August until the following May, so that in the meantime they might consider how it ope rated and how it was received. But it was said that the people of Ireland should have been allowed to exercise their own discretion on the subject, and that no arbitrary measure of the kind should ' have been imposed on them without their consent. What, however, would have been the consequence if the Government had trot consented to take such powers from Parliament, and -had left the peace of the county to be preserved without the interference of any act of the Government? The open purchase of arms by persons who pritoured them fir the purpose ot disturbin g the peecelif the country, to make the high "Y"' ""fe, eoul.; have het tie industrious farmer unAsfe and unprotect e d, and plecod the whole country in I a state o f insecurity.---(Hear, bear.) Ile confessed he never felt the weight of responsibility more than when he had to consider the propriety of abandoning the continuance of a measure which had tended in a great degree to abate the state of disturbance and insecurity which then existed. And if on that occasion he hid a lesson read to him as to how he should act in future, it was that he should not prematurely part altogether with such powers as were given by the present Bill. Ho must, however, admit that though he did not consider that these powers were, as the Honourable Gentleman the 2alember for the city of Dublin had stated, subversive of the constitutional rights of the people, yet he did think they were extraordinary powers, and ought not to be granted by Parliament fur any long period, and he confeseed a very fair objec tion might be taken to the period for which the continu ance of the Bill was originally proposed, but he should be quite satisfied if the Bill was allowed to continue from the 31st of December next until the end of next session, instead of for four years, as previously intended.—(Hear.) At the lapse of that time Parlia ment would again have the question before it, and would have to consider whether these powers ought to be continued ; but he would entreat the House not at present to declare that such powers were quite unnecessary, and that the Lord- Lieutenant should be left during the whole of the autumn without any effectual means of quelling disturbances. The Hon. Gentleman the Member for Rochdale, who proposed the amendment, referred to the sub ject of legislation on the relations between land lord and tenant. Now the Government had re pentedly endeavoured to introduce a Bill which might give satisfaction on the subject to the coun try. Last year a Bill was referred to a Select Committee, and that Committee made a report, which was laid on the table of the House; and in the present session another Bill was introuced by the Government, founded mainly on the result of the deliberations of that Com mittee, but the subject was one of such extreme difficulty, and so much opposition was manifested to its provisions, that the Government were forced to come reluctantly to the conclusion that, so far from remedying the evils complained of, it would only aggravate the discontent and excitement that already existed on the subject. Then the Honourable Member for Rochdale was constantly starting objec tions, and while he opposed the Bill he asked for the insertion of other provisions, which he (Lord John Russell) did not think to be of a nature that Parliament could sanction. He (Lord J. Russell) thought that while on the one hand they should give • every security to the tenant which legislation could give, it was not right on the other—when the engagement between the landlord and tenant is that the tenant should hold his land for a certain term, such tenant being known to the law either as a tenant at will or for a term of years—it would not be right for the Legislature to step in and E ay, " We will make such a condition between the parties as will place the right to the property not in the land lord but in the tenant."—(Hear, hear.) It would be cererary to all principles of law and justice that Parlia ment should assent to such a principle. He thought that principle was not only unjust, but contrary to all the rules and maxims which guided the rights of property. Under those circumstances the Government were com pelled to say they would pause for a time and endea vour to see whether such provisions as they had proposed could not be modified or amended, or whether other measures could be introduced which would give to ter aets all the rights they could possibly ask for with out interfering with the acknowledged rights of landlords. —(Hear.) Ho did not think, however, that the absence of some provision:, of that kind was a reason for refusing the sanction of the present Bill, though he was free to Iconfess that the law as it at p resen t stoo d w a s i n a ver y uneatisfactory state. He did not think it advhable to enter into th - e consideration of other mcazures; such, for in:Aline.), as that suggested by Mr.'Napier, with regard to waste lands. Though the Government did abandon a Bill on that subject, they very much increased the sums which were advanced by the Exchequcr fcr the purpose of what was called arterial drainage, and he thought it of much greater importance that they should increase the productive powers of land already cultivated by . measures of that kind than apply their re J - _)nrces to entirely waste lands. which could not yield crops until after the lapse of a considerable period. hear.) He had no wish, however, to enter into any disputed question on that or other subjects at present, but would at once ask the House to give the Government leave at least to bring in this Bill. It should be limited to two years, end he thought it would be imprudent on the part of the House if it did not concedw these powers for the preser vation of the peace of Ireland, to which it was deemed on all bands the Acts of Parliament and the conduct of tho Administration had tended.—(Cheers.) _ _ Mr. MORGAN J. O'CONNELL said that the cir cumstances under which this Bill had been origin ally introduced were very different from the present state of Ireland, when everywhere there was tranquillity and obe dience to the law. He hoped that no time would be lost in settling this question, for they might rest assured that, if they did not, it would speedily settle itself. Mr. BRIGHT said that he had intended to havo entered into the case of Mr. Mauleverer, in defence of the coroner, had he supposed that the Honourable Gentleman the Member for the Uni versity of Dublin would have brought, it forward. With respect to the Bill itself he thought that no case had been made out for it. The cessation of crime and outrage in Ireland he attributed to other causes than the ; existence of this Act, and he certainly should vote against its continuance. Mr, NAPIER explained, stating that he had not gone so fully into the case as he might have done. Mr. MOORE moved the adjournment of tho debate. Lord J. RUSSELL hoped that course would not be pursued, hut that the House would allow the Bill to be iutroduced, and reserve any further discussion till the scud reading. Mr. C. ANSTEY complained that the rules of the House had been violated by the introduction of this qucAi3n without notice, and he should therefore oppose the progress of the measure, and vote for the adjourn ment. Sir G. GREY observed that, the former Bill baying been withdrawn, no notice for its re-introduction was necessary. Mr. SCULLY said some returns bad been laid upon the table within the last few days connected with the state cf crime and outrage in Ireland, and the debate ought to be adjourned till the House had had an oppor tunity of looking into them and seeing if there really was any necessity for the Bill. Mr. M'CULLAGH thought the statements of the Hon. Member for the University of Dublin were calculated 0 create so much misapprehension, both in Ireland as well as in this House, that he could not allow the Bill to be introduced till he had attempted to confute it. Mr. HUME called upon the Government to consent to the adjournment. The Bill praposed to suspend to a certain extent the constitution in Ireland, and it ought not to be hurried through. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the adjournment ... 29 Against it ... ... 89 Majority ... —6O Oa our retain to the gallery we found Mr. HUMS still urging upon Government the pro priety of adjourning the debate. He would not vote for the Bill tilt he had heard further reasons for it. Mr. BRIGHT complained that Irish measures were being hurried through in a most unseemly manner, and he protested against this mode of proceeding. Lord J. RUSSELL proposed to adjourn the question till after the other orders of the day, but be would pro mise not to bring it forward after 11 o'clock that night. Lord CLAUI) HAMILTON looked upon the Bill as a measure of protection for the peaceful and orderly portion of the people of Ireland, and ha fur one hoped it would be pressed forward with as much rapidity as pos sible. He hoped Government would not listen to the opposition of the mock friends of the poor, to be found amongst some of the Irish Members who misrepresented their constituencies. Mr. REYNOLDS denied that those who opposed this Bill were the mock friends of the poor. Mr. BROTHERTON protested against the continu ance of this discussion, which had no connexion with the Bill they had been debating. It was wasting the time of the House.—(Cheers.) Mr. A. STAFFORD pressed the House to accept the proposal of the Noble Lord, and adjourn the debate at once. After a few words from Mr. C. ANSTEY, who moved the adjournment of the House, to enable him to speak again, the debats was adjourned till• after the other orders of the day. The House then adjourned, at halflaet three, to half past five o'clock. The House resumed at Half-past Five. PETITIONS. Mr. HUTCHINS presented a petition from coal miners in Forfarshire against the Coal-Mines Inspec tion Bill. 11 1 Ir. REYNOLDS presented a petition from the Lord Mayor, aldermen, and burgesses of Dublin, praying that the House would not pass into law a Bill for the amendment of the Municipal Corporations of Ireland, and that if the Bill should pass into a law that the House would insert ts,elause to relieve the ratopayers from the payment of more than one moiety of the paving and lighting rates. Mr. ELLICE presented a petition from the trustees of the Coventry Savings' Bank against the Savings' Banks Bill. MOTIONS FOR RETURNS. Mr. BOUVERIE laid on the table of the House a huge bundle of papers in the shape of returns relative as we understood, to turnpike trusts in Scotland, which had been moved for by one of the Members for Glasgow. He said they afforded a striking exemplification of the inconvenience and expense resulting from Hon. Members moving for such returns. In this instance it had taken the clerks in a public department two yearS to compile these returns. Mr. ROEBUCK hoped the House would have some protection in future against the recurrence of such a circumstance by the appointment of a Committee or otherwise. Mr. DISRAELI thought the House should pause be fore it came to any decision which would restrict the facility of obtaining returns. No doubt there were con siderable abuses, but there would be considerably more if it had not been for many regulations, for which they were indebted to the Hon. Member for Montrose, and there would be still more if any serious restriction were s a h n o d rt c m on r v . ercsaotbidonen, in to w o h k ich pa lS r l t r : Li e u in subjectM r. placed upon the orderin g o f returns. T h A o r f n e e r ly a , dropped. _ COUNTY COURTS BILL. Mr. GREENE appeared at the bar, and announced tin:, in compliance with the request of this House, thvir Lordships had agreed to a coniennne on the but , j,?ct of the County Courts Bill, which they had ap pointed to take place immediately in the Royal Gal lery. The son. Gantleman tied seTeral other Membere then left the Souse. On their return, Mr. GREENE, as manager, announced the result of the conference, which was ordered to lie upon the table. SMITHFIELD. In reply to Mr. HEATHCOTE, Sir G..GREY said that he had stated on a former (w -ee, Yion the ''eneral recommendation contained in th e re port of the Commissioners for the removalof Smithfield market, in which recommendation the Government con curred. A copy of that report had been sent by the Government to the City Remembruncer on the 24th of June, with a communication calling the attention of the corporation to the recommendation and to the present state of the market, and desiring to know whether the corporation of London was willing to undertake the con struction of a new market. On that day (yesterday) he had received an answer from the City Remembrancer to that communication, which ho would read with the permission of the House. It was dated July 31, and was as follows: " Guildhall, July 31. " Sir,—ln answer to your letter of the 24th of June, I am directed by the Markets Improvement Committee of the corporation of London, in pursuance of an order of the Court of Common Council of the 23d of July, to state teat your letter, and the reports accompany ing it, have been fully and maturely considered; and the notice of the corporation having been drawn by your letter to the recommendation of five of the Commissioners for the discontinuance of the present market at Smithfield, and the establish ment of a new market for the sale of cattle without the City, the corporation are advised to protest against the commission being used for the purpose of affecting the rights prescriptive, chartered, and parliamentarily and judicially confirmed to the corporation of London, and cannot concur in the proposed removal of the market from the place where it has been held by the citizens of London from time immemorial, under the common law and their charters, which prohibit the establishment of any other market within seven miles of the City, and which charters have been confirmed by Parliament, and lately supported by the judgment of the House of Lords, assisted by the judges. The corporation of London, therefore, feel themselves called upon to maintain those charters for the sake of the public and of their fellow citizens, and rely with confidence that no such Bill as that referred to in your letter will be proposed to Par liament. The corporation having recently prepared a comprehensive plan and model for the purpose of meet ing tee suggestions pointed out by the reports of the several Select Committees of the House of Commons, and proposed means for effecting it, they cannot under take the task of constructing a new market without the limits of the City, for which no site, nor plan, nor esti mate is suggested; whilst the plan proposed by the cor poration is ready when sanctioned by Parliament for im• mediate execution. " I am, Sir, your obedient servant, " E. TYRRELL, City Rtmemurancei. " George Cornewall Lewis, Esq." Ho received the letter that day, and be could only say tbattha Government still concurred in the re2ommenda tion for the removal of the market. Mr. STAFFORD —Has tho Right lion. Gentleman any objection to lay that paper on the table of the House? Sir G. GREY—None. Mr. STAFFORD—Does the Government mean to bring in a Bill this session to authorise the removal of Smithfield-market? Sir G. GREY—Not this SCESion. COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL ON EDUCATION. Mr. HENLEY asked whether Sir J. K. Shuttle worth heft' any office at present under the Committee of Privy Council for Education, and if not, whether any person was appointed to fill the office lately held by hia3? Sir G. GREY said that by an order in Council, dated January last, Mr. Lingon was appointed to succeed Sir J. Shuttleworth, who had retired from the office he htld under the Privy Council, and now held no office whatever under it. SALE OF POISONS. Mr. STAFFORD drew the attention of the Govern ment to the subject of the frequent occurrence of murde r by means of poison, and asked when a Bill would be brought in to restrain the sale of poisons? Sir G. GREY said there was considerable difficulty in tramino• a schedule of poisons to be referred to in any Act of the h kind, and it was not the intention of the Go vernment to lay a Bill on the subject on tho table this session. LIVERPOOL PETITION FORGERIES. Lord BEAUMONT brought up the report of the Com mittee on the Liverpool petition forgeries. The report stated that the Committee were of opinion that due precau tion had not taken place, but that there was no evidence to prove that the parties engaged in fretting up the petition had abetted the commission of these forgeries, although there was great carelessness exhibited on the part of the promoters of the petition, and that they were guilty of gross neglect. The report and evidence was ordered to be printed. Lord MONTEAGLE gave notice that he should on Thursday draw the attention of the House to this subject. _ _ COUN'T'Y COURTS EXTENSION. Lord Beaumont and other Pears were appointed to manage the couterenee with the Commons on the County Courts Extension Bill. • IRISH COURT OF CHANCERY BILL. Lord BROUGLIAM moved that this Bill do pass, and he hopei that the Bill would not be stopped in the House of Commons, as it was of the utmost importance to the poor suitors that it should puss. The Bill was then passed. CIVIL LIST. Lord BROUGHANI then rose t move for th© returns relating to the retrenchments in the civil list, oF which he had given notice. He begged to premise that he had not the remotist idea of touching the bargain made at the beginning of the reign between the Sovereign and Parliai2sent, and ho had net the slightest view of making indecorous economies in the civil list expenditure ; but they they had a right to know what the amount of actual savings was. He saw his Noble Friend (the Marquis of Lansdowne) shake his head, but thera was nothing in that.—(Laughter.) He did not mean -the head—no doubt there was a great deal in that, h • meant the shake.—(Renewed laughter.) They had the returns of the gross saving, which for the last 3 ear was 38,7191. 4s. 2 , 1.; but he wanted the particulars. lie wanted to know how much was in the Lord Steward's , office, how much in the Lord Chamberlain's office, how much in the Master of the Horse's office, and how much in salaries, pensions, and allowances, and whether it was on consumable commodities or for officers ? What he wanted to get at was, whether the vacancy caused by the death of Sir Thomas Marrable, the late Secretary to the Board of Green Cloth, had been filled up, or a reduction effected. He found that a slim of 2,0201. had been voted in 1837, on the set tlement of the civil list, for the expenses of the Board of Green Cloth; now that sum had been voted for a specific purpose, and they had a right to expect that it should be applied to that purpose, and not appropriated to any other. A saving of 38,0001. had bean effected, a great portion of which might be attributed to the reduction of prices consequent upon the repeal of the corn-laws. He thought the estimates of expense were taken at too high a standard. Ile had to observe that the charges for services amounted to between 60 and 70 percent. on the income, which was more than any private person would siAbmit to. He wished to know whether any, and what part of this saving had been on account of salaries, pen sions, and allowances. It was a mistake to suppose that the Crown received the full amount, for it was charged by her present Majesty's predecessors with not less than 28,0001. It was not the principle of the constitution that the Sovereign of this country should amass private property, but be dependent on Parliament, and upon this principle whatever property devolved upon the Crown became the property of the public. It was not his in tention to press his motion at present, but he gave no tice that, early next session, ho should call attentioa to the subject. The - Marquis of LANSDOWNE objected to the mo tion, and considered it would be highly objectionable to state the items upon which savings had been effected,which would entrench on the independence of the Sovereign, and detract from its dignity, if items were sifted to ascertain if there was a horse too many on one occasion of the visit of a foreign prince, or a dinner too many on another. The Act of Parliament provided that when a saving was made in one department it might be transferred to ano ther. If the Crown came to ask for assistance, it would be consistent to institute an inquiry into the expendi ture to ascertain the necessity for the demand, but that was not the case here. Her Majesty bad never applied for any assistance. He was sure the Noble Lord bad no intention to review the contract entered into between the Crown and Parliament. He could not consent to the motion. Lord BROUGHAM explained. The Dake of WELLINGTON said his Noble Friend omitted to state that it was the principle of the settle ment, that no inquiry should take place. He recollected that Lord Althorp at the time declared in the House of Commons that no inquiry should take place, and the Act was framed in strict conformity with that declaration. The Noble Lord was then a member of the Administra tion, and must have been a party to the arrangement, in direct opposition to which his present motion Iva : , directed. On the two occasions on which the civil list was fixed he complained that it was not sufficient, ar.d he found that in many instances it was inadequate. to meet the demands upon the bounty of the Crown; and in cases where in the war parties were bereaved of t heir husbands the Crown was unable to make a competent allowance. Lord MONTEAGLE opposed the motion. The con tract had been framed upon the surrender by the Crown of the hereditary revenues attached to it.—(Hear, hear.) They had no right to ask any of these questions relating to the civil list, or to receive an answer. That was the first time when, without debt and *without embarrass ment, such questions were asked. That was the first time, and he hoped it would be the last time. The civil, l n i s rqs t uti was gree t a a br iodu bargaintoftt th eire with x i pb t e h anr gdPiataiunr expenditure Parliament. olff e tnhi be civillf a t list, they wished t w ahi i en s y he , t ot d hue should stand t o i t , b ut if not, tt) .t, they should repudiate it altogether. They could not re-open the civil list during the life of the Sovereign. The revenues of the DrY y from of Cornwall h a d now passed awa the Crow n, L a c i n h d the civil list w as t h erefore smaller than it h ad many years. Th e r e h a d b een no application to ;anrroar ment to defray debt s o f t h e Crown either during the present or the late reign. B oth Sovereigns wereactu ated by economical feeling,. The late King, upon going into the new palace, expressed to him a fear that it would lead to and involve the expense of a large estab lishment. He remembered the emphatic words in which he expressed these apprehensions to him. He observed, I never asked Parliament to pay any debt for me, and so long as I live, so help me God, I never will. The ever:wily of the present reign was 'finally remarkable.' U::der Oust! circumstances, he hoped the motion be rejietcd. Load BROUGHAM, in reply, said that there had been much inaccuracy in the statements of the Noble Lord. Parliament was at intervals called upon to vote a STAMP DUTIES BILL. Mr. MULLINGS asked the Chanceller of the Ex chequer whether it was his intention to proceed with the Stamp Duties Bill, as at present framed, during this ses sion of Parliament; end if not, whether he will endea vour to pass the Bill in this session in a modified form, so as to repeal the duties now payable as for a bargain and sale, or lease for a year, and for livery of seisin on feoffments, and upon admissions to copyholds, con sequent on grants or surrenders made on sates and mortgages, and for removing the doubts and difficulties as to the proper stamp duty payable on transfers of mor gages, and further charges and additional mortgage se curities ? The CHANCELLOR OF the EXCHEQUER—It is both my intention and my hope to pass the Bill as it stands. EXTRADITION OF POLITICAL REFUGEES. Lord D. STUART said that he understood that a person had been apprehended in Hull, on an application from the Government of Frankfort, upon 'the ground that he had been implicated in the murder of Prince Lich nowsky and General Auerswald—that ho had been de livered up to the Frankfort Government, and that others had been likewise demanded, and not been given up, solely because they had escaped to America beforehand. The qtiestion he wished to ask was, wheter it was true that any foreigner had been demanded as a criminal by any of the Governments of Germany; whether they had in consequence been given up to any Government, or what answer had been given to any such demand from any Government? Sir G. GREY said he had no information whatever with respect w the case referred to by the Noble Lord as having cccterred at Hull, and he had reason to know that no such case had ever happened. An application had been made by a foreign Government not long ago to the Foreign-office, for delivering up two 'persons on the ground that they were implicated in the murder of Prince Lichnowsky and General Auerswald ; but ns there was no treaty existing between the British and that Go vernment fur the extradition of offenders, the answer that ho had returned was, that the law of this country did not authorise tho extradition of such persons. lie might mention that there was no treaty between this country and any other, except France and America, which authorised this country giving up persons charged with crime. SEWERS. Mr. D'EYNCOURT asked for some information with respect to the statements which had been made in two petitions lately presented, on the condition of the sewers south of the Thames. Lord EBRINGTON wished the question to be post poned for the present, as the statements referred to were too well founded. The consideration of the drainage south of the Thames had occupied the Commissioners that very day, but they came to no conclusion owing to the absence of three most important members of the commission, Messrs. Rendel, Stephenson, and Peto. However, on Monday they expected to see them in town, and if the Hon. Gentleman would postpone his question to Tuesday or Wednesday ho would be able to give him a satisfactory answer. CORONERS' DEPUTIES. Lord R. GROSVENOR rose to present a petition from the members of the English Homoeopathic Association and others, complaining of the conduct of the deputy coroner for Middlesex, in the case of an inquest upon the body of a man named Richard David Pearce. The cir cumstances on which the petition was founded were so notorious at the time, and were so much commented on, thatsit would be unnecessary fur him to enter into a statement of them on the present occasion. Lie would merely state the complaint and the remedy asked for. The Hon. Member for Finsbury (Mr. Walcley) had appointed a deputy as coroner for Middlesex in the case of the inquest in question, which, from misdirection of the jury by the deputy coroner, resulted in a verdict of manslaughter against another man, named Pearce, the brother of the deceased, who was accordingly committed to the felons' ward in Newgate on the charge, where he remained seven days. Mr. WAKLEY interposed—the Noble Lord had been so good as to show him the petition, and the Noble Lord was stating what was not stated in the petition. Lord R. GROSVENOR would then state, in the words of the petition, that Mr. Pearce was committed to New gate, and when the case was brought before Mr. Justice Mal, he said, spaaking of Mr. Pearce, " This man seems to have acted as well as he could. How any per son could be found to say that this person is guilty of manslaughter I cannot possibly imagine." The remedy requested by the petitioners was that the House:would pass a law in order to prevent coroners of counties appointing their own deputies. The petitioners con cluded by stating it as their opinion that the deputy coroners should be elected in the same manner as the coroner. An Hoer. MEMBER moved the petition should be read. The petition was read accordinglyamidst great laughter. Mr. WAKLEY subsequently addressed the House, and said he considered the petition of a trumpery cha racter. He was surprised that the Noble Lord should have presented it, seeing that the Noble Lord was himself the President of the Homeepathic Society. The affair alluded to had taken place last October; why, then, if there was any illegality in the course pursued by the deputy coroner had not an application been made to the courts to quash the promedings? There was, how ever, no illegality in the case ; a nd the object of he pe titioners, therefore, was not to deal with it, but to ad vertise their quackery. He hoped the House would set it face against that system of advertising, because he balieved that a more audacious set of quacks never existed. The society consisted of tINO classes—noodles and knaves. The noodles, however, formed the great majority; a,ad when the knaves contrived to catch sun° amiable Lord, and make him their pre sident, then they advertised it all over the world, and victimised the nowiles. In this case the parties had the audacity to cox° before the House and attack a public officer in the discharge of his duty. They had, no doubt, a natural oiread of a coroner—(Laughter)— and therefore they sough: , to deter him from perfurming his duty. In reference to the char g e contained in the petition, he (Mr. Wirakley) had sent the constable to the coroner's jury; and be held his hand the statement of twelve of the jurymen that :he deputy coroner had in vestieated the case in the most patient, able, end exem plary manner; that he had repel.' teNy told them that he . did not think the evid ence agains.l; I he accused person suffic';.ent; and that when he was in.cormed by them in their own room that ten were fur a verdict of man slaughter and two against it, he expra ssed it at his opi nion that this verdict was not sustained by the wituesser. The lion. Member then called the atteltti\ ,n of the Home .~ ......---------------,..... Secretary to the mode in which criminal ministered at the Old Bailey, and supported his vkw 13 ; the necessity of a public prosecutor by a long statelnej:" respecting the practice of mock attorneys and the intuit; cient manner in which criminal cases are conducted :1 , justice ie. aci ; teat court. He hoped, as no other good could come 4:!1 the paltry petition that had been presented, ha': 1; would h a t h e mea n s of calling tie attention of tl to Government to the subject of appointing a public lit o' secutor. . Lord R. GROSVENOR said the case alluded to he the petition was sufficiently serious to justify him in i on course he had taken. He would make no remarks , the manner in which the lion. Member had a lluded r e him in connexion with the Homeopathic Soleil, but. b e 0f would say for the society itself that it was compoSe ad di ~, entlemen of te hihest abilit and largest scientific se professional att h ainme g y nts, some o f them in extensive pr°' p tice as medical men, and all of them of the Most 11 14. doubted respectability. Mr. ROEBUCK hoped the House would protect ,itet' self in the future from cases of th is description Ag el n d ral object was made to subserve a particular pu rpose, a -__ the House was dragged by a side wind into a diseu sal o w on a petition, and an involvement of personal squabbi _,.. contrary to its own regulations for the conduct _of to business. Mr. HUME said the appointment of a public pi' , a e e 3 ; cutor was well worthy of consideration . that such au appointment would prevent maul. tir s'ho parties ' w prosecutions, while it would bring guilty now escapcl to punishment. The petition was then ordered to lie on the table. It, Mr. SCULLY asked the Chief Secretary for Ire! , sof the following questions:—ls it a fact that true bills Georgee Ile belie Is . ii e; indictment were sent up and found against , Mathews, alias Duncan Chisholm, at the recent W 0. mission in Green-street, Dublin? Will the Eight a Gentleman explain the nature of the charges 1 n e.: A the said clerk, and if any and wha t ste p s have been 61 ' taken to arrest the accused? , Sir %V. SOMERVILLE said that a true bill had he l i g found against that individual for forgery, hut tha L re would be exceedingly inconvenient to explain the ed ge of of the charges that were made by the law officers to the Crown against him at that moment, and also ' c f state what steps had been taken to secure possessio)l his parson. L'OS Mr. SCULLY asked was the individual in cl ue° - put in the Hue and Cry? Sir W. SOMERVILLE could not say. Oa r Sir B. HALL asked the Home Secretary whe f t be there was any Bill under the consideration o Mier ttvernment for the division of populous parishes 11l oho authority of the Ecclesiastical Commission? fife, s t . wished to know whether the livings of .A Mary, Southampton, held by the Rev. Lord GUild f ; P eed the former containing three parishes, would bo div.' fan under the same authority, and whether the Bight "- 'Ar with the Baronet had communicated on the subject ocesan, the Bishop of Winchester? Iresford ano .;d. r Sir G. GREY said . it was the intention of ~ t i e ment to lay a Bill to the effect stated on the table oi rai i d H h ouse, to be considered during the recess. A g e ett re e ki l S o : t e livis in question, he had only very formation but he believed they ware not PlurAlld be being united by law. Ile did not think he we ll 1 ,0 justified, therefore in making any communication .t , o p Bishop with regard to that particular benefice, as l' only one of a class. : th e Sir B. HALL then asked a question respeeti gaa management of the sewers of the metropolis. ..,, is' November 1847, to January 1849, the expense ef " a pot t l efauce was about 107,0001., the surveys wer e 4 o ( Old 5,0001., while the cost ofmanagement was abou t 4.-- - d 0 9 or about twenty per cent. on the whole. Il e ons e t d 0 rs Government would turn its attention to the subj ec t i io . o g sn i t r h e G r e c , e s s .., .- il e s ' : GREY had no objection to consider tneoldlzi i f . the law imposed on the Home Secretarl t u du n '. of appointing an arbiter, which had been dulYshoui d assent to the suggestion of the lion. lgerah er ne glat % 1 ofno not, however, be token to imply a belief in any duty on the part of the Commissioners. BARON ROTHSCHILD. Dell is ...m p o ne , 0 s Mr. ANSTEY stated that he proposed to vsntopei. j notice of motion to huts Baron Rothschild hi f' „ to o t u: the bar of the House till Monday. He did so ' s ",,f t)1 at ance with the views of the professional dvise r° " 00 10 l e gentleman, though he was of opinion that th e they sukre'ested was not the wise one. ibis 1,1 or t Lord J. RUSSELL said if Baron Rotbsoht no el 1 - protessional advisers wished to' be heard hi cones - pil V D ' the bar of that House, and if that wish was dtation. to lied, he would be ready to pay it evert 6 t teil • which it was entitled. In reply to an SapApVliclaNtiGonS nßyAlri.fiS.E.,..,oo,l3lg, 01;10 The CHANCELLOR of -tle EX.0 0 "" „dog ' I that he could not postpone the Totes resPo'-- 10 savings banks until Monday. 00 0 Sir H. WILLOUGHBY hoped the vote w posponed altogether. SUPPLY. ~e „ ,011. ; 0 The House then went into a Committee or ",, i i; e tti ~ 1,6501., for repairing and fitting up 0.,P 3r :,,:ty, a l - Holyrood Palace, for the reception of her XIV" then proposed. In reply to a question from Mr. SWIM ere 1.5 Lord SEYMOUR said that the apart i' paired and painted, but nothing bad O en w-- tei ° furniture. P si° in Mr. ”. HUME said the vote was for repairing s . a it Holyrood Palace, and ho objected to it. er rs Ps i ;eb The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECi Ij A P Odif 3DIV 47 she should desirable h that when her Majesty vis i e te- ecotio e ' I it . 'M s od be enabled to sleep at Holyrooti„,%;estY s , t e b Mr. HUME did not wish to grwige her ' - j'eere r 'of able accommodation; but, considering ther e h o 151Sif ibt excellent hotels in Edinburgh, be thought, mr-- o ne_tvl3l ref would be sufficiently well accommodated in - re f a b th e r e/ 111 by their means. East, west, north, and 5 0- t .lbe • tt.s nothing but expenditure on royal palaces, and to to, ei thought those Hon. Members were not ti tr u ed Me . : tir . Throne who countenanced such a coutin - ,geSS " jog Public money in that direction. He would eo - Dre go to g self with entering his protest at the way theY,,er'lo o' . on, knowing what a waste of time it woul d 110 . 70 b tbe House. t or ~ oe Colonel SIBTHORP said the vote was a t er te ll ameonvgotpea t r o ti B es oo i l. n Scotland. He should wove -° °,PSi ed the s ..g As Lord J. RUSSELL explained the necessitYtot 0, Lo s of putting some rooms in Holyrood Pelee° j u :0; 0 r for her Majesty's reception. He really be i a the Queen of the country, when going to dr r - spe et i to the benefit of the air, was not a s ubjeev h - l e olge „, 00 which that House would be disposed t° „"idlis " je Majesty. He considered the sum of I,6ool.o;relscs expended in putting those rooms in 110 ) Y r°°‘' lift repair. hetb st e O' f Colonel SIBTHORP wished to know W „ m esa' Majesty had the slightest knowledge of til e P r. "' fie 3 penditure? ee e sig,i 41 her J. RUSSELL replied her Majesty "'"el r' fl( er wish to occupy the apartments in Un i L r loti ld b when on her visit to Scotland . Her Majesty I i 4 self pay for the furniturc. pe Colonel SIBTHORP, in that case, would - - r - lje another word against the vote. ion on i 0 . Mr. HUME denied having cast any rene , 0 0 , filed it , Majesty in the matter. But when a larg e et l'' he' ante fur royal , expenses was made, he tb ee t ere I/ right to interfere in east of additional exPeeill ther here or in Scotland. The vote was then agreed to. IP e t 5 i tt 9,4001. for making alterations and exper t *Ms e ,e' new House of Commons. ee e Os p` new Sir D. NORREYS wished to know whe._tu: til e : ; W. sent House would be allowed to stand wne-0000d• louse was finished. He thought it would b e a la t f ,", 6, deprive themselves of a House in which they costa the itii act their business comfortably as it was Pn s , s ,: h - t tar' t periments going on in the new Houses inlb" IV unfavourably. n Eg"b ° The CHANCELLOR of the EXCEMejI„ gol d b tie, was never contemplated that the old tient: the d e lj ti' pulled down. It was not ever believed t t 00 - 11$ House a _ would be available permanently for b1 19°3 0 0 ! I x madelter Easter next year. Tee experiments Pole had reference to a more perfect hes' o r tt iri le g O re out the House, and he hoped the House iv fil l to have those experiments fully completed. v et fe e _ Colonel SIBTHORP did not think win die body, the reporters, would find much hoL 3e ;b" Al be' experiments, whichever way they went. that ece:ol4 monstrous construction of the new Ilouse, in bre to fore hie dinner a Member stood in great dtog er ° Oss ible b e estimate ln li ere n a e t_h w e h ad il e e a x u t g af e h d ar s o d g i l e r P ti e g o o s i l o ci re i o ea increased.—(Laughter.) dinnerwhiehit that in the present way. How much money had I ' Sae away already, anti foolery d er bs p l ro t p ,a e .a r a ly time to with what an absurd r estl 3 %. s o ba il . thought the only purpcse to which such a gewisoreill;te devoted was that of LI t he s h oti He protested agsjahgeo fo!)Aii put an 6ad to se OS b 0 1 been n ery going forward and to the vast O pen Wit 00 , already incurred to no useful Pu r a ll ie for b esil ie t t. our expenditure we had not a chamber ie . Dr' ' It was Mr. Barry here and Mr. Barry th i e f e tbd D. 513. here, and Dr. Reid there. That w ile n a o et - ie let° .) while a more gross job than this new # 0 iot er be conceived, and Hon. Members ought " il og I) once effectually. r ate se oboe Mr. HUME said no vote oneht ~ to n. O - 0 l os olt shame and disgust as the present vote. waste shag 0 11 . 1 ished that the House should continue notwnity h money in assisting a person who had f ir.!'l Derriololl out properly the public requirements. f st kind oc ek no doubt, ability of one kind, but not o t h a t was P s' d ° oosti 0 13 qualified him for the position in which b e yid be Even if the 9,0001. were laid out, the rit 00 ► IC be then be adopted to useful purl:w iles :we" the r _.' .15 Sv al much better to build a new roorn aiVl i e to P - .., - .0 P in peared to him as if trouble bad teen ta pe- exPe ° " ed building as little convenient and possible. He wished some architect to b e POP '' t e complete the House who would architect Sbli building to its purposes. He could onii j .0 1 1,, 00 the vote, and that ho did most sincerelY., the the Mr. STAFFORD said every bodY l e in th e le °) a disgraceful at recognised the truth th h p a x l e h c l e a r ooln irope ss laot ed. blame on . i t a h il e o p re rnc l l P p. o w l as 0 h coo , g fi nay one fur if the architeo . 1800 , deo; .00 the architect charged it on the Coroini mittee charged it on the Woods end Fore sy s t a ' s to b i o et He e s difficult to fix on the real party wb e i 0200ei:oielli could nut refuse the grant of additionsbet, wal 0 0 1), 8 present there was no doubt that the choin toe et I ge hoin' ' unsuited for business. 110 hoped tho P r ocil e the last time they would have to rcfar ta It o Is Eating subject. 0 he B P?c ' e llifi e Mr. SPOONER said if 800/. WO % f ood ° ob er putting up and tilting down a temperer,' s „, go 0 0 in ,ht Oa fit the new House, in order to ascertain DO cbe rg . . flee' could hest be he a . rd, he really thou g h t ...ee IV - B e' most extravagant. (21 119 ' .- 'Bo 1)- I' Tlie t he v as • ,es e , 0 it WllB not Scl'ila:lble to revert to l te hs "j 1/!;"ed Houses had cost a large sum of m oneY , I ! .at itte ' o ilP , 1 for it. The room, however, it 'Mat te a lp li esl3 ' failure. A Committee of 29 Alec:Mrs 0' .10