The Sun. — London, England, 1851-07-18 00:00:00

THE GREAT EXHIBITION. The number of visitors yesterday, though not reach ing the high level of Tuesday, shows no decrease from the general average. The police returns up to three o'clock were as follf,w:— From 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 1 1 to 2 2 to 3 58,658 At the close of the day the sum of 3,0231. ss. was taken at the doors, and according to the police returns 63,746 persons entered the building. Several Sunday-schools, apparently from the country, were among the visitors yesterday, headed by their clergymen and teachers. liar Majesty continued her inspection, arriving and departing at the usual hour. COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL. Yesterday a Court was held for the dispatch of public business. THE LATE ENTERTAINMENT TO HER MAJESTY. The LORD MAYOR rose and said, I have had the honour to receive a communication from Lord John Russell, which, as it refers to the entertainment lately given by the corporation to her Majesty, I propose may be read to the Court.—(Hear.) Mr. Woodthorpe, the clerk of the court, then read the letter, of which the following is a copy : Downing-street, July 10. My Lord,—l have received her Majesty's command to express to the corporation of the city of London, through your Lordship, her Majesty's cordial thanks for the manner in which the corporation received her Majesty yesterday evening and for the splendid enter tainment at the Guildhall. " The hearty, kind, and enthusiastic greetings which accompanied the progress of her Majesty through the City, bath on going and returning, have afforded her the highest gratification. " The Queen and the Prince Albert were deeply af fected by those spontaneous marks of attachment. Their ottly anxiety has been lest any accident should have occurred through the pressure of the crowd. " The Queen has been pleased to direct that the dig nity of a baronet should be conferred upon your Lord ship, asa proof of her satisfaction and an enduring tes timony of her regard for the citizens of London. " I have the honour to be, my Lord, your Lordship's faithful and obedient servant, cc j • RusSELL. " Right Hon. the Lord Mayor." This 'communication was loudly cheered by every member of the Court. Mr. DARIN, the chairman of the Royal Entertain ment Committee, then spoke as follow s :—My Lord Mayor, I wish to take this opportu nit y of movin g that the letter which has just been read be entered upon the minutes of the Court.—(Cheers.) I con ceive that it must be a matter of great satisfaction to the members of the corporation, and also to the citi zens ofleondon at large, as I conceive that such a communication, from so high a source, will tend in a very great degree to dispel any feelings of dissatis faction which may have been expressed elsewhere as to the manner in whiBh the royal entertainment was furnished. I regret to have seen that from a report of a meeting in the papers, which took place at the Court of Aldermen the other day, some remarks were made 'which, in my opinion, would have been much better spered.—(Hear.) It was there stated that the Court of Aldermen had not been fairly and fully repre sented, and that the memb ers o f t h at court ha d not been allowed the privileges to which they were entitled, The fact is, the arrangements were in the first instance advised by the aldermen, therefore the grumbling which hed taken place in the Court of Aldermen was wholly without foundation. Indeed, the only failure which had taken place in the proceedings of the 9th instant related to the mat ters under the control and authority of the Court of Aldermen and police.—(Hear, hear.) It is therefore quite clear that anything which may have been complained of did not originate with the enter tainment committee.—(Cheers.) It is true an article a day or two after the royal ball appeared in the Times newspaper which reflected most severely upon the committee and the corporation ; but the state ments it contained are untrue, and in justice to my own chaTacter and that of the corporation et large, I challengs the writer to the proof of them. I will, therefore, if the Court think fit, send in my own name a contradiction to it—(No, no) —though I believe the virulence and bad taste of the article will defeat the object of the writer.—(Hear.) I have taken the liberty to name my proposed course in this matter to the Court, in order to sh ow th a t I a m r ea dy t o as k the Tames to allow me the use of its columns to con tradict the unfounned statements which have ap peared in them upon the occasion of her Majesty's visit.—(pheers.) The letter which has just been read, hcelyeve r, goes far to remove this necessity, and I thinV e onsequently, that I cannot d o b e tt er j us t now than move that it be entered upon the minutes of the C&Urt.—(Loud cheers.) Mr. kinEkroN, in seconding the motion of Mr. Dakin, would move that, in addition to the proposal Made by the chairman of the entertainment committee, the following words be added :—" And that a copy of the same be sent to every member of this Court." As to the inuendoes which have been indulged in by the Times, I think that the letter itself is the best answer that can possibly be furnished to the offensive article alluded to.—(Hear, hear.) The !notion was agreed to nemine contradicenle, it being understood that a full report of the matter would be brought up in the course of a few days. ALLEGED INVASION OF CORPORATE PRIVILEGES. Mr. Deputy STACY wished to call the attention of the Court to a Bill which had been brought forward by the Government with reference to the coalwhip pers of the port of London. Since he had been in his place that morning he had received a copy of that Bill, and upon perusing it he was astonished to find that in it a clause was inserted which was calculated materially to interfere with the privileges of the cor poration, and which, if passed, would reduce the power of that Court frLn four-ninths, as given to them in the existing Act, which every one admitted had worked well, to the minimum portion of one-fifth. —(Hear, hear.) Mr. Stacy then proceeded to state that Mr. Deputy Pewtreas had received a petition upon the subject, after which he (Mr. Deputy Stacy) moved that the Bill be referred to the Parliamentary Committee for immediate consideration and report. The petition, and the Bill alluded to in it, were, by the unanimous vote of the Court, referred to the Par liamentary Committee. CITY IMPROVEMENTS. Mr. WATERLOW (the chairman of City Lands Committee) brought up a report " for authority to confer with her Majesty's Postmaster-General and the Improvement Committee in relation to the va cant ground at the west end of Cheapside," which was agreed to. ELECTIO N ACT AMENDMENT BILL. A repo r t was brought up by Mr. Deputy HARRI. soN (the chair m a n of the Freedoms Committee), re commending " th at proceedings be taken against some person, not b e i ng free of the City, who carries on trade by retail, to compel him to t a k e u p hi s free dom." Upon the bringing u p of this report, the dis cussion of the question was opened, the whole of which was important, an outline of it only being given below. Mr. Deputy HARRISON, in that the Court a gree with the Committee t i a n k in t e h:e v ir b in r g eport, observed that years ago steps were parties carrying n on the business corporation i n the legally to compel city of London to take up their an freedom, att and so long as three or four years ago pt to effect this object was tried and failed; so that em now a great ano maly existed i n this res p e ct betwixt the wholesale and retail dealers. — (H ear. ) The Freedoms Committee long considered th e sub j ect, and eventual hady they had come to the conclu sion reco mmended in the report, that being, under the circumstances, in the opinion the members the be st course the y could pursue e iin o in f order to settle the qu estion.—(Hear. ) T one thing it was n ecessary for him to state, and that was was the great atrxiety the committee had felt re warding the large amount paid to t he Government as i_s fee for every freedom stamp ; t h at sum being not less than 31.—(H ear .) This sum they had attempted to a ;et the G overnmen t t o take off, but hitherto with utsuee"s'—(llear, hear.) They (t he Free doms Committee) were willing to remit the sm all am ount on each f reedom but (2/. 65. Bd.) the corporation re ceived,herein lay the difficulty ' • if they did so the Government would compel them to pay the 31. stamp duty in every case effected.—(gear,) that freedom by redemption was of the position in which theref o r e felt the difficulty deale rs 61 they were placed. Against the wholesale it cluesti was useless to proceed, and now, to try the quently, to proceed agai on, they proposed, conse cipal retail traders. He e st one or two of the prin moved., therefore, that the Court agree with the committee ti in their report. e ra st Vo t n h . e Mr. R. TAYLOR seconded Mr. Deputy ens sugg e propriety of giving the committee an oPportunit with the Government, in order that Y of conferring Ministers of the Crown might be obtained opinion of the Probability of their being willing to as to the remit the stamp-- corporation duty of 31. each on the freedoms if the w ould forego their amount of - -2/. 6 s . Bd. ; upp that they agreed to recog nise as a freeman every sosing who had resided in the C it y one y e ar and a day, party was on the Peiamentary roll, and who paid scot" wh o scot" and bore " loff' To this effect he would move an amendment. Mr. Alderman WIRE seconded the amendment pro posed by Mr. Deputy Pewtress. and this he (lUr. Alderman Wire) did because he believed it was ne cessary thiat some such conciliatory step should be adopted, or, without professing to be a prophet, he would not hesitate to say that they, as a corporation, would soon find the end approaching.—(Hear, hear.) They an had jried the power of the law upon the mer .l% tprinces, and what had they done ? (A voice— )railed.") Yes they had failed. And now what did they propose , the to do ? To prosecute and to perse cutepoor retail hucksters, greengrocers, and other THE SUN, small retailers. If they did so they would most as suredly bring down upon themselves the contempt of the citizens. Mr. Deputy HARRISON replied at length. The question was then put, when the amendment was declared to be carried. Upon a division being called for the numbers proved to be-- For Mr. Deputy Pewtress's amendment 28 For the original motion • • ••• 21 Majority ... OATH OF ABJURATION FOR THE JEWS. -7 Upon the motion of Mr. ANDERTON, seconded by Alderman WIRE, it was agreed to petition the House of Lords to pass the Bill to regulate the mode of ad ministering the oath of abjuration to persons of the Jewish persuasion.—Adjourned. THE LATE LORD DERBY'S MUSEUM. The following letter has been addressed by the Earl of Derby to the Mayor of Liverpool:-- "Knowsley, July 8. " Sir,—lt was the anxious wish of my dear and la mented father, as it is my own, that the very extensive and valuable collection of stuffed birds and animals, which it was the labour of his life to form, should not after his death be dispersed, but rendered as far as possible available to the amusement and instruction of his countrymen and neighbours. Among his pri vate papers I find one upon this subject, em bodying an arrangement upon which he had communi cated with me, which so clearly sets forth his views, that I cannot do better than transcribe his own words : With the anxious desire that what I have collected during the long existence that has been granted me may be devoted more particularly to the gratification, and I would hope advantage,of the part o f t his countr y with which I have been more immediately connected, and in which I cannot but feel a more direct interest, I would desire that this museum should be placed in the care of a body of trustees, after the model of the British Museum, to be placed in the town or environs of Liverpool, hoping that the public authorities there may think fit to erect some building for its reception, which might, perhaps, with advantage be placed in connexion with the collegiate institution already established in that town. If this sug gestion should be adopted or favourably received, I would propose that the Earl of Derby for the time being and one other member of my family should be trustees; that my personal friend Richard Earle should also be one during his life, if ho will be pleased to accept the trust, and that the Mayor of Liverpool and the two rectors of the town for the time being shall be mem bers, cx officio, on the part of the town, and the in cumbents of Knowsley and of Iluyton on the part of the country; that the above persons shall be the first trustees, and that they have power to add to their number, to fill up vacancies as they shall occur, and to lay down rules and regulations for the better manage ment and preservation of the museum, and for the purpose of making it as beneficial as possible for the amusement and instruction of the inhabitants of the town and neigh bourhood in the first place, and, next, of the public in ge neral. As it is my principal object by this arrangement to keep together, in one body, the collection which has been formed by me, and to devote it to the benefit of the rising generation, I have ventured to suggest its being annexed to the collegiate institution, as by that means it would appear to be more directly available for the pur poses of instruction and reference; and I would further add my wish that it should bear the name of its original bounder, as some memorial of the interest I have from boyhood felt in the study of natural history, and my earnest wish to make that which has formed a constant pleasure during my own life as far as possible conducive to the welfare and gratification of ray fellow-countrymen and neighbours. " I have only to request that you will have the kind ness to bring this subject under the consideration of the council at the earliest period consistent with your own con venience, and to express an earnest hope on my part that nothing in the conditions attached may interpose to pre vent their acceptance of an offer which seems to hold out no inconsiderable advantage to the population of Liverpool, and which will place my father's extensive collection in a position alike conducive to the gratifica tion of his friends and neighbours, honourable to him self, and on all accounts gratifying to me as his repro sentative.—l have the honour to be your obedient servant, " The Mayor." " DERBY. A GOOD DIGESTION. We read in the Gazette des Tribienaux—" A very singular scene took place at Puy on Sunday last; a person named Rupin, on entering a cafe, said, Gen tlemen, I am a physiognomist, and can, from an exa mination of the face, describe the character and future lot of each of you.' A tradesman, M. 8., requested him to examine his face, which he did with great apparent attention. ' I see,' said he, from the protru berakices on your forehead, that you have great aptitude for works of imagination. You are naturally good, but do not like to be offended. A person in whom you feel int!r est is now writing to you, and yon will soon re ceive a considerable sum on which you did not calcu lat He next made an examination of other people's faces, and talked in the same vague way. He after wards presented his cap, and collected the gratuities of the company. ' Waiter!' he then cried. What shall I serve you, sir?' Some flints.' A plate .full of flints was brought in, and he swallowed five with. a good deal et apparent appetite. I also like five. franc pieces,' he observed, and if any one will be kind enough to give me one, I will swallow ill' This proposition was received with silence; and at last M. B--- said, It is easy enough to swallow a piece of M., and I know a good many people who have devoured all their fortunes. But you could not swallow a watch, lam sure.' I will do so, sir, with great pleasure— give me yours and you will see!' There it is.' The in took the watch, which was in silver and of a ge al size, and swallowed it with ease. After a mo morit of surprise and admiration, M. B— observed, It, is very clever, certainly, but when will you give me bank my watch?' Never!" Oh, that is too much, I did net mean to make you a present of it!' But I thought you did. Besides could you suppose that I would swallow a watch for nothing? We played a game—you staked your watch, I staked my life. lam not yet in safety— tt,e watch may break in the process of digestion.' Bat, S ir—" Possession is a good title in law, and I pos s ass. And, besides, how can I give up the watch? Am Ito rip myself up?' Oh, no; but I will Wait if: you will, but you shall not have your watch.' The t radesman took the man before the commissary of police, hut that functionary, after hearing all the facts of the ca.3e, declared that he was entitled to the watch. HISTORY OF THE SUGAR-CANE IN LOUISIANA. Some interesting particulars respecting the origin, rise, rind progress of the cultivation of the sugar cane in the :3 tate of Louisiana have lately cume under our notice, 'which are deserving of attention. A brief summary of t ;hem will repay perusal. It is now just a century since the first cane was planted in Louisiana, and the circum s.t ances which led to that important step were these:--A 3ssel laden with French recruits for the coloey touched at iispaniole. The Jesuits sent their brethren a few bundles of the cane, that they might try the ex -1 ti3riment. These were planted in what is now the leart of the second municipalty, and were cul t ivated by negroes, who came in the fleet which I xrought the seed. The experiment succeeded, but he cultivation of the cane was not prosecuted with my vigour, and it was only in the year 1759 that person named I)ubreuil put up the first mill. In I he year 1769 the culture was abandoned for a period of venty-five years. In 1794 a person named Etienne . a orb, a native of the state of Illinois, whose indigo crop tit id failed for several successive years, in despair aban -6,c ‘ned that, and attempted the cane with marked success. In the second year of his trial he made a crop worth ,000 dollars, and his success induced his neighbours to imitate his example. It is stated in Stoddard's " History of Louisiana," t hat in the year 1803, at the transfer of the territory, t he delta contained eighty-one sugar-cane plantations. Iri this work it is observed, " Some of these planters are affluent, and possess from 30 to 60 slaves. ri:` he most wealthy of the class reside about the city, ,n d before the cession several had made crops valued rat from 10,000 dolls. to 16,000 dolls. Since that i?e Hod the number of slaves has increased. Sugar estates art I cultivated on a more extensive scale, and the number of them has greatly multiplied, so that the annual crops of some are now worth from 25,000 dolls. to 30,000 dolls. TI: a cane is not raised above the island of Orleans, nor is it believed that the climate will admit of it. No sugar est ates are found more than 100 miles above the city." Such was the condition of the cultivation in 1812. Tt to cane is now cultivated in the southern portions of itchitoches and Tenses parishes, which are 350 miles ab ove New Orleans. In 1830, the Secretary of the United States Treasury ad dressed circulars to gentlemen in different parts of the c. 3untry, seeking information on the various products of i) Ldustry, when a Mr. Josiah S. Johnston replied very e laborately on the subject of sugar. He said that at t he time of the transfer of the territory the duty on pager was 2} cents per pound, which, in 1816, was in. creased to 3 cents, and that it was more than twenty years from the period of the cession before 40,000 hhds. -were produced. At the time first referred to, namely, 1 1830, it was estimated that 35,000 slaves were engaged upon 725 plantatio ns , em pl o yi ng a b ou t 1 00 steam-en g_lnes, with .a capital employed of about 50,000,000 dolls. 1 scion e machinery was es ti ma t e d to cos t on eac h plan ts,ooo dolls., and the whole worked 22,000 h orses, valued at 1 ,500,000 dolls., which were renewed e very seven years, at an annual cost of 200,000 dolls. The prices in 1818 were from 14c. to lie., which, in 1 829, had fallen to 7ie. ! and in 1830 to from 61e. to 7 i e . Such was the position of the cultivation in 1830. In 1840, the number of slaves employed had increased t') 143,890, and the produce of the plantations was a c rop of 119,947 hhds., of I,oo o lb s, each, and 600,000 'gallons of molasses. In 1849-50, the crop was 200,000 hhds., which rea lised 10,000,000 dolls. The census r e t urns of the United States, just made up, gives th e number of slaves in the State of Louisiana at the present tim e at 230,807, an d th e ca pital now employed is estimated at the sum of 75 , 000,000 dolls. It Such is an outline of the rise and progress up t o 1 the present year of the cultivation of the sugar-cane in Louisiana. .... !. .... lei ller...-._". since, as a CRIME 1N F RANCE.— A few n i g h ts pork-butcher, named Baron was returning to Monneville from th e market of hiarquement (Oise), he was fired at, and t. , tt ie ball p ass i ng through his head, he fell dead car in his A part of th e li ghted wadding falling at the same time among tb.e straw s e t fi re to it. The horse continued his road, and ar rived at th e man ' s house with the dead body and the cart pirtly burnt. Th e police have obtained a clue to the author of the crime, and are on the 100k -out for him, . THE Moons. —The young birds are already strong on the wing, are as large as partridges, and altogether pro. mine to be a match for the quickest eye and the steadiest hand on the approaching "Twelfth." —Aberdeen Journal. % LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING-, JULY 18. 1851. ALARMING ACCIDENT. On Tuesday night, between the hours of nine and ten o'clock, a horse and gig passed along some of our prin cipal streets at a flying pace, to the great alarm and con sternation of the inhabitants. What increased the ex citement was the circumstance of a person sitting in the gig, who had lost all power over the infuriated brute, and for whose safety much concern was expressed. Upon inquiry we were informed that the horse was ultimately brought to a stand in Main-street, Gorbals, and that the young gentleman who was seen in the machine met with no injury. The particu lars of the case, as conveyed to us by Inspector Frame of the Cabs, are as follow :—Yesterday afternoon, three gentlemen engaged from Mr. Lawson, in Queen street, a horse and dog-cart to take them as far as Cruickstone Castle and back. The party accomplished their journey in safety, and returning by the Paisley road, they stopped at the half-way house between Glasgow and Paisley for refreshment. When here, two of the party got out, in order to give the horse a drink of water, leaving their companion sitting in the machine, holding the reins in his hands. One of the young men, it is said, took off the horse's bridle in order to allow him to drink more freely, when he being a full-bred beast, and feeling himself without control, started off at full speed to Glasgow. He careered along the Paisley road in furious style, and reached Glasgow-bridge almost in the clap of a hand. The bit being out of his mouth, the gentleman in the gig had not the least command over him. He darted across the bridge like a fury, and passed up Jamaica-street and along Argyll street without meeting an obstacle, the unfortunate indi vidual in charge of him all the while keeping his seat in the gig as best he could, but pale with fright and anxiety. The horse, it is said, made an attempt to turn up Queen street, by way of his owner's premises, when a person who was passing along, threw up his arm, which had the effect of causing the affirighted animal to continue his course by Argyll-street and Trongate. Certain it is he ran down Saltmarket-street, then in a very crowded state, at a furious pace, crossed Hutcheson's-bridge, galloped up Crown-street, and turned rapidly into the Rutherglon road, where his speed somewhat slackened, which ena bled the young gentleman in the gig to get out without sustaining any injury. By this time the runaway was pursued by hundreds of well-meaning but boisterous persons, who kept up a shouting noise, which had the very opposite effect from what they intended, and he continued his gallop on to Shawfield Toll, where the toll-keeper turned out and stood in the middle of the road in order to catch the fugitive. The appearance of the toll-keeper brought the horse to a stand, but it was only for a moment; he wheeled about as quick as thought, and made off by way of Rutherglen Loan, which he reached in a few minutes thereafter. Here his pace slackened considerably, and after turning down Main-street, the poor beast, " reek ing with hot haste," ran right against the wooden pali at the Accommodation Bridge, where he capsized t gig and himself at the same time, and was soon secured and conveyed home to Mr. Lawson, not much the worse for his race. In connexion with this accident, it is al most miraculous, considering the state of the streets and the hour of the night at which it occurred, that no one was injured .—Glasgow Herald. "To BRA.DSHAIV." " Stuff and nonsense, you tiresome man," said Mrs. Lost. "You put me out of patience. What o❑ earth has brought you to this stupid state?" He feebly answered, " BRA.DSHAW." No one knows what he means. —Dickens's "Household Words." not, however, surprised at the Hon. and Learned Member for Newark being so indignant at the sugges tion to disfranchise Harwich, because he repre sented a nomination borough which was very little better than Harwich. It was said once by a learned member of the bar, that these no mination boroughs were of great service to tho country, inasmuch as they enabled members of his profession to get into the House ; but the time had arrived when they had too many lawyers in the House, and this rule held good no longer. He gave notice that when the Harwich writ was moved for he would move, as an amendment, that it do not issue. Mr. V. SMITH had nothing to say in favour of Harwich. Before the House allowed this inquiry to proceed some Member must make himself responsible for the allegations which the petition contained. Mr. HUME said there could be no doubt that Har wich was a most corrupt borough, and it could not be too speedily disfranchised. The petitioners made cer tain charges against Government officers, and, without reference to who was responsible for the correctness of the allegations, it wag the duty of the House to sift such a charge to the bottom. Mr. DISRAELI supported the motion, believing that it was necessary to ascertain the truth of the charges contained in the petition. The House had unfortunately allowed its attention to be diverted from the real question at issue, which was simply whether there should be a Committee or not. It would be time enough after that was disposed of to go into the matter of disfranchising Harwich. Mr. E. DENISON objected to the way proposed of nominating the Committee, and suggested that it had better be appointed by the House. The Committee of Selection might select a number of gentlemen to serve on this inquiry, but they would have no power to com pel their attendanca, as in the case of an Election Com mittee. Mr. BANKES said a similar petition was presented a few years ago from certain electors of Stamford, and in that case the Committee of Selection found no diffi culty in nominating a Committee to ascertain the truth of its allegations. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion Against it ... 80 Majority for the motion ... —2 The motion was conseque❑tly carried. SUPPLY. On the motion for going into Committee of Supply, Mr. Sergeant MURPHY rose to call the attention of the First Lord of the Admiralty to the want of accom modation for the repair of steam-vessels at Hawlboline; and to ask whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to provide the same. The lion. Gentleman also moved for a Committee to inquire into the subject. Sir F. BARING opposed the motion on the ground of expense. Mr. E. B. ROCHE was quite aware that the Admi ralty did not spare expense, but he complained of the centralization of the expenditure to England. It was nonsense to talk of leaving the enterprise to private spe culation, because private resources had not effected these objects even in E❑gland. He considered it most unjust that while hundreds of thousands of pounds were ex pended in trying to make Holyhead and Devonport packet stations, that all aid was refused to Ireland in that way. Captain BOLDER() called the attention of the Admi ralty to the tact that although Sir H. Smith had written an urgent letter to have a reinforcement sent to the Cape, yet, in consequence of the harbour of Cork not being in a condition to embark troops, the 12th Lancers had to be conveyed to England, and thus a delay of six days was the' consequence. Admiral DUNDA.S denied that Sir H. Smith had written an urgent letter for troops, or that any unneces sary delay was caused in the embarkation of the troops. Dr. POWER reminded the House that both the First Minister of the Crown and the late Lord Auckland pledged themselves that a naval establishment should be maintained at Cork. He remembered being one of a deputation who waited on Lord Auckland a few years ago, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty, and he distinctly pledged himself that such should be done. _ _ Colonel . CLI - ATTER,TON said he never saw a more wretched ship than that on which the port-admiral at Cork hoisted his flag on a recent occasion. He also complained that the horses of the 12th Lancers had to be sold previous to their embarkation. Admiral DUNDAS assured his Hon. and Gallant Friend that he was mistaken as to the flag ship of the port-admiral, for he had a large two-decker and a screw with him.—(A laugh.) As fur the horses of the 12th Lancers it was thought better that they should be mounted at the Cape. Admiral BOWLES said that the late Government al ways looked on the harbour of Cork as one of great im portance, and when he was in office he had always con sidered it as such. It was of the greatest moment that such a harbour should be always left in a proper condi tion, so as to render it not only a proper port for mer chant vessels, but for men-of-war. Sir W. H. BARRON reminded the House that they added thousands upon thousands on the naval ports of this country, but Ireland was to be abandoned, and left to its own tesources. They destroyed her farmers, her landed interest, her milling interest, and now refused to contribute a single farthing in repairing one of the finest harbours in the United Empire. The Reuse then divided, wln there appeared— For the motion ... 104 Against it ... ..• ••• 26 Majority .., _7B THE HORFIELD ESTATE. Mr. P. MILES next called the attention of the House to the case of the Bishop of Gloucester and Bristol, and the charges lately brought against the Right Rev. Prelate. His object in bringing the question forward was to clear the character of his Right Rev. Friend, and to show that the charges preferred by the Hon. and Learned Member for Cockermouth were totally without foundation. The principal of these was, that there was a moral responsi bility on the part of the bishop not to grant a lease of the Horfield estate, and he grounded that charge on the evidence of two witnesses, and the fact that the two pre vious bishops who held the see made no such lease. The Hon. Gentleman spoke in so low a tone of voice as to be rendered inaudible in the gallery. We understood him to say, as far as we could collect from the detached sentences which reached us, that as regarded the ques tion of the renewal of the lease of the Horfield Manor, the Bishop of Gloucester had sufficiently answered. That bishop was under no moral obligation to renew, and was bound alone, with regard to this matter, by the Order in Council of 1836, and that he was left to deal with the estate as he pleased, and that his object in the transaction was to do the best for the public good. He said the correspondenc e stated by the Hon. Gentleman as having taken place in 1822, did not occur until 1847, and that the account given of it was so diffuse, that he could not arrange it. The Hon. Gentleman stated that the bishop was under a moral obligation not to renew the lease. Now, he had the authority of the bishop to say, there was not a word of truth in that statement. In 1847 there was a negotia tion with the Ecclesiastical Commissioners for the sale of the estate, and subsequently an offer was made by the bishop to sell it for 11,5001., but that was broken off and not concluded, and that transaction was known to all the other bishops. From that time to the death of Dr. Shadwell nothing was done to effect a sale. The bishop then appointed Mr. Huh, of Gloucester, his secretary, as lessee, and instead of putting in the lives of his three sons, as alleged, he put in the lives of the three Royal Princesses.—(Hear, hear,) Great stress had been laid on the value of the estate, which was said to amount to a rental of 3,4001., whereas it did not exceed 5551., which was also subject to deductions. When la e ap.• pointed his own secretary, that gentleman gave up a living of between 7,0001. and 8,0001. a year, and there fore he would derive a less income; and as a slur had been thrown on his title he appointed his dean secretary to secure the property. He hoped he had said sufficient to exonerate the bishop from any blame. In his own diocese he was respected for his liberality and kindness, and his subseriptions were greater than those of any revious bishop. H e therefore thought, to quote the words of the Hon. Member, " that the Right Rev. Prelate would be again able to hold up his head as an honest man." Mr. HORSNIAN said the Hon. Gentleman had cer tainly made his statement with great fairness, an d where he had censured it was in the lightest manner thiet could be unpleasant to him. This was not a question botween him and the bishop; it was a charge which, if „true, affected others as well as the Bishop of Gloucester. If the indictment was found that the Bishop of Gloucest or had devastated the estates of the Church it lay also against others. It was a public question. He knew nothing of it but from evidence taken before a Committee of that House, bat the Hon. Gentleman made no refer ence to that evidence. What was the statement that he (Mr. Horsman) made? It was this, that when the Bishop of Gloucester succeeded to the see, the estate of Horfield rested upon one life, and that both the pretrious bishops had refrained from renewing. That Bishop C a '-rey had attempted to renew, not when the first life fell in, but when the two first lives dropped, but that he re frained from doing so, because he could not obtain .an adequate fine. He also stated that when Bishop Allen succeeded to the see, Lord Melbourne requi red from him a pledge that he wou ld not renew, and that Bishop Allen had not, during his time, made a renewal. He stated this uon the evidence of Mr. Richards, twen t y y ears per petual curate of Horfielt.! • and well acquain ted with the estate, who stated that he had frequent conve rsations with Bishop Grey on the subject, and tha t he heard because he could not get him state he would not rerenew • el e see should have the price he asked, as he prey erre ' th en, and would ra the benefit rather than h Chu. , is own -r emstances. This ther let the lease lapse under such etre: t. Ws Bishophad death, been Grey's was corroborated by a letter written )? gsoonin,ginonwfhoirchthirteweaysesatrasted previoustha t l l t e o g t o h t eiat Zx, for the a bi n s d ho th p, at as th w e as su w m ell w k a n s ow re n f , us w ed as as not in a man adeq to do dirtuatte-,y work by enriching his family at the expense of his a ."- cessors.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member had not alluded t, l the evidence taken before the Church Leases Committee on this subject. The case of the Bishop of Gloucester had been stated elsewhere, not more ably bet more artisti cally. Mr. Richards stated in his evidence that commu nication had been made after Bishop Grey's death to Lord Melbourne, with regard to the Horfield estate, and that he knew an attempt had been made for a renewal, and that he knew that no attempt had been made for a renewal during Bishop Allen's time, because Dr. Shad well would have informed him if such had been the case. He (Mr. Horsman) did not say there was dirt ct evidence of these transactions, but that there was strong circumstantial evidence to show that Bishop Allen had been required by Lord Melbourne to give a pledge that he would not renew. Bishop Allen himself stated that a renewal ought not to be for lives. Now, how was this evidence met? In another place witnesses were referred to, represented as of unimpeachab le veracity . First there was the evidence of Ur. Vincent Sculley, who stated that the bishop refused to renew because the lease° would act give the price asked, Lie added that what he stated was not of his own knowledge, but what he learned from others. He further stated that the F re sent bishop would not take the fine offered. Every an swer of this gentiman was given in the most cautious manner, and showed that he knew nothing of the trans action. The Right Reverend Bishop who defended the Bishop of Gloucester said these sentiments were derived from a surveyor in the neighbourhood, who was notorious for his opposition to the Church and Churchmen. The person referred to was Mr. Stukey. Mr. P. MILES said the person referred to was Mr. Sturge, nor Mr. Stukey, who was the great banker. Mr. HORSMAN—He could only say that every an swer of Mr. Stukey was given on hearsay. Now he would come to Mr. Sturge. He stated there had been negotiations between the Bishop of Bristol and the lessee referring to Bishop Grey, not Bishop Allen, who was then Bishop of Ely. He would now come to a part of the evidence in which the Bishop of Gloucester totally denies the whole matter, and when he alluded to it, he hoped that the House would take the whole matter into consideration.—(Hear, hear.) He saw that there was a considerable degree of ingenuity practised in 1842, and that the plan was also endeavoured to be carried on in 1847, which he looked upon as moat unjust, and which he believed the House would totally disapprove of.— (Hear, hear.) He argued this on the evidence of the blue book, which was worthy of the consideration of the House—(Hear, hear)—and which was diametrically opposed to the evidence of the Bishop of Gloucester.— (Hear, hear.) It was said that in 1848 the Bishop of Gloucester offered to make over this property to the Ec clesiastical Commissioners on what they considered to be liberal terms, and that the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon (Sir James Graham), who was chair man of a Committee at that time, to whom the matter was submitted for consideration, was favourable to the transaction; but all the agreement then entered into, as it appeared from Mr. Murray's evidence, was, that the Commissioners assented to the terms of the bishop's offer, not because they considered it liberal, but in order to save the estates from indefinite alienation. He con ceived that the Commissioners might have so acted in order to avoid a state of things occurring which would be attended with greater difficulty. Ho made these charges in that House the other night in the presence of seve ral Ecclesiastical Commissioners, and not one of them had contradicted them, but so far from that being done, the motion of the Honourable Member for Bris tol on the subject was withdrawn from that House altogether, and introduced in another place, where there were none of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners present to approve or disapprove of it. There was one other point to which he would direct the attention of the House. The Act by which the sees of Bristol and Gloucester were united, was passed in 1836. At the time of his appoint ment to those sees the bishop was to receive the tempo ralities of both, the one being represented at 9251., and the other at upwards of 3,000/. per annum, and the Act uniting them fixed the income of both at 5,0001. per an num ; but, instead of that, the average income derived from them by the bishop had, for the last 14 years, been 7,2281. per annum, and in 1848, the income was 11,1071. In 14 years, therefore, the bishop had an increase of income of 32,0001., over the 5,0001. he was allowed by Act of Parliament.—(Hear, hear.) He thought the Ecclesiastical Commissioners were wrong in not making proper stipulations as to the property of Hur field, as their doing so would have prevented the evils which had taken place, as the Bishop of Gleucester had now renewed the lease of that property for three lives for the benefit of his family. On a former occasion he stated that the lease was renewed to Mr. Holt, the bishop's sec retary, but that it was for the lives of his own family. That was the information he received, but they were now told that the lives placed in the lease were those of three of the children of the Royal Family. The Bishop of Gloucester, by cluing that, had taken care to have three lives of a family notoriously long-lived, and associated the name of the Queen with a transaction which was anything but creditable.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member for Bristol had said, that for this property the bishop bad given up a living of 700/. per annum, but he tound that the living referred to was worth only 500/. a year, while the Hortield estate, which he had taken pos session of for three lives, now produced 3 0001. a year, and in course of the three lives might be worth 30,0001. a year. Here, then, was one of the most valuable estates of the Church taken possession of by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, by virtue of an Order in Council, alienated from the Church, and assigned for three lives to the bishop's family. Now, though the bishop might have a legal right thus to alienate the estate, he maintained there was amoral obligation upon him net to do so. Even the law was against granting long leases of ecclesiastical property, for the 13th of Elizabeth condemned the practice, and the Act of 1836, appointing fixed incomes to the bishops, evidently meant that the sum they might receive over 5,0004, the sum specified in the Act, was to be held by them in trust, and accounted for to the Ec clesiastical Commissioners. It was no answer to say that the Bishop of Gloucester had only done what other bishops had done, for he held that of ail others the bishops of the Church, in the management of the pro perty appertaining to their office, ought to act so as to be as example to others; but was such the case? So far from its being so, did they not find that the bishops were the very worst administrators? For how many churches might not have been built, and schools erected, had not the sums bequeathed generations ego, by charitable individuals, for charitable purposes, been alienated from the purposes for which they were originally intended, by the prelates of the Church? He, therefore, condemned the system of allow ing those parties to have the right of doing with Church property us they pleased, as, were it properly ad ministered, and appropriated to proper objects, educa tion might be extended, and crime diminished by it' and the general well-being of the community greatly ad vanced. Mr. GLADSTONE said, when it was arranged that they should depart from the ordinary business of the night to enter upon an explanation and a discussion re specting the Hurfield Manor, he confessed he little ex pected, after the statement that had been made by his Hon. Friend, that the Hon. Gentleman should have risen —not in vindication of himself, which he for one thought was much needed—but that he should have departed— sorsly to the inconvenience of the House and the delay of public business—to such topics as the future condition of Horfield Manor, to the revenues of the see of Bristol and Gloucester, the conduct of the bishop of that see, and thence to the revenues and conduct of the bishops of all the other sees of the Church.—(Hear, hear.) With reference to the state of the law on these matters, he agreed with every word that had fallen from the Mon. Gentleman.—(Hear, hear.) He fully concurred as to the badness of our legislation; but it was one thing to de nounce bad legislation, and another to judge with st verity those who merely act under that bad system which the Legislature bad established. It was another thing, not merely to deal severely with, but to misrepre sent them, as the Hon. Gentleman had dene.—(Hear, hear.) He would pass lightly over some of the state ment' of the Hon. Gentleman, for he confessed he did not understand some of those with regard to the see of Gloucester. The Honourable Gentleman said the revenue of that see was 10,0001. some hundreds in 1848, and that from episcopal sources alone the bishop had received 34,000/. more than he ought to have received. (Mr. Horswan dissented.) The Honourable Gentleman said, that including the two commendams which yielded 1,700/ the revenue of the bishop in that year had been 11,0001.; did he not say that ? (Mr. HORSMAN—Yes ) Well, then, taking that 1,700/. from the revenue of the see, that, according to the Hun. Gentleman, would give only 9,3001. from episcopal sources for that year. But if he took the figures as given in the return ordered to be laid on the table of the House of Commons tor that year he found that the revenue of the Bishop of Glou cester for that year was only 6,200/, subject to a deduc tion of about 200/., instead of 9,3001., as stated by the Hon. Gentleman. Well, then, the Hon. Gentleman said the Bishop of Gloucester bad received 34,000/. beyond what he should have received from episcopal sources. Mr. HORSMAN—I said 34,0001. over his own cal culation. Mr. GLADSTONE—WeII, he would take it that way. Over his own calculation. But he could find nothing of the knd in the returns laid before the House fur the last seven years. According to these returns the net revenue of the see was— For the year 1844 ••• 1845 "41 1846 ••• 1848 •• 1849 And for 1850 That was for the last seven years, and he must say he was pubzled to know by what ingenuity the Hon. Gen tleman could make out by these figures how the Bishop had received 34,000/. more than he was entitled to. Mr. HORSMAN said he took the 34,000/. on the Bishop's own calculation, in 1836. Mr. GLADSTONE—That might be, but he had given the returns for the last seven years, and at all events it did not bear the statement that the income of he bishop in 1848 was 11,000/., and he wanted the Hon. Gentleman to show how ho could justify that statement. —(Hear, hear.) He entered fully into the spirit of every syllable uttered by the Hoe. Gentleman in the abstract as to the duties of bishops, and the spirit and way in which they should discharge those duties; but he was bound to say at the same time that our law pro ceeded upon a totally different calculation—that it bound he bishops to the world, and connected them with the Mi nisters and the Legislature of the day; and if we placed them in that position, it was not for the Hon. Gentle man to come down upon them with severity and censure because they did not come up to his abstract ideas —his sound ideas in themselves.—(Hear, hear.) But let them go to the statements originally made by the Honourable Gentleman with respect to Horfield Manor. These statements, as he understood them, divided themselves into two separate questions. In the first place, whether the Bishop of Gloucester has pursued a course which calls for the censure of this House; and, in the second place, whether the Hon. Gentleman had exercised due diligence in the examina tion of the facts before making these statements against a prelate of the Church. The Hon. Gentleman had said a Horfield Mano r was worth a g r ew , deal now, and ti. it would be much more valuable in future. He had that. nation in saying that in taking the course he had no beb- was acting under the conviction that he had done be , , to do so; and though he might not have lega l pawn ." .the Hoe. Gentleman thought best, yet ta k en the cone. se confo s and the posaibility of future do not let the H o e , wrong-doing with the positive violation of engagements and breach of faith charged acainst intonehiro.—(llar, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman would age se with him namely, that under present e i e numiatances the bishop could not, as a gentleman, declitev what his intentions were at the present moment. If he were to do so it would deprive of ell grace whatever h e meant to do in future in favour of the Church. He h ad a right to say, 6 I will use my own discretion as to the, u But in the time and man ner in which I will do what I int end to E 6 • !meantime the Ilea.he had nu groued for eondeanninauh. llf he used the great powers in his possession wrongly, then condemn him, but not g present, because the law had invested him with these great powers, and at pre sent they had no evidence whatever that he intended to ; mis use them.—.(Hear, hear.) But what was the st ate: ment of the Hon. Member? In the first place he ;aid that Bishop Grey at a cer tiin period bad declared his determination not to renew the lease of Horfield Mat ;ori but to let it run out for the benefit of the Churnb. I tal that allegation b een sus t a i ne d? On the contrar2 tea been it I ea been entirely broken down, and by no one more titan the Hon. Gentleman hi mse lf, b ecaus e he had read a lei ;ter from a son of Bishop Grey, in which it was stated'. 4 . ha t a few months before his death an offer was made v rb ich he refused, because it was inadequate.—(Hear, b cur.) That was a point blank contradiction to the first all ItP" tion. The second allegation was that Bishop Allen bad been bound by Lord Melbourne not to renew the I ea se during his incumbency. The Hon. Gentleman had 2/ withdrawn that allegation, and admitted that he had a) reason to make it. Mr. HORSMAN—I do not admit anything of 6 I le kind. Mr. GLADSTONE—If the Hon. Member did m at admit that, he had, at all events, made a great alteratic in the original allegation he formerly stated as ono t fact. He now stated it as one entirely of inference an a presumption, and it was on that ground alone l 'be stab 3 : tent rested, that he did not mean to renew the lease of Horfield Manor. The leteer of Bishop Allen .to tl Ecclesiastical Commissioners, in which be offered tho: the lease of Horfield Manor, showed that he had nt** to tention of sacrificing his rights, because he proposed hand over the estate to them on condition that t bt would build a palace for his residence. Then the I to n ' Member made, what he could not help thinking saying was a very remarkable statement respect Bishop Monk. That statement was that he knew Tic ) ; thing of moral obligation, but he was determined to stt on his legal rights. Mr. HORSMAN—I said nothing of the kind. Mr. GLADSTONE repeated that was his decid 9 d impression of the st a t ement o f th e H on . G en tl eman . I , had imputed to the bishop that, either in writing or 11 ` words, he had stated that he knew nothing of moral of ligation, and was determined to stand upon his legs ii rights. Did the Hon. Gentleman adhere to that? Mr. HORSMAN—I adhere to all that I said befor er; but I do not accept the representation of the Right HO. Gentleman. Mr. GLADSTONE did not wish to misrepresent the Hon. Gentleman, but he would only say that 0 5 0 principal of these charges had entirely failed. Wel le then, ho understood that another capital point of the e case was, that when an arrangement had been made be- • tween the bishop and the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, it was stopped because it was detected as a job. Did the Hon. Gentleman adhere to the principle of that state ment? He bad not given one tittle of evidence to sup port it, and it was important because it had been stated elsewhere, and the Hon. Member knew it had, that the arrangement had not failed on its merits, but simply be cause the lawyers had advised it to be given upon account or some technicalities. These appeared to him to be the most material allegations in the speech of the Hon. Gentleman, and they had all vanished away on being subjected to the test of examination, nor had the Hon. Gentleman, in his speech of nearly two hours that night, said anything that could sustain these allega tions. But the Hon. Member had made much of a, letter, said to have been written by the bishop, in which he said it would be disparaging to his character if he thought of renewing the lease of Horfield Manor. But he held in his hands another letter from the bishop, in which he did not treat the mere idea of the renewal of the lease as disparaging and injurious. His own words were, that it would be disparaging to his character if be were to renew the lease on the same tenure of lives. It was to that, and not the mere renewal that he referred, and therefore that charge passed away like all the others. M. HORSMAN— When was the letter published? Mr. ciLath, t ONE—If the Hon. Gentleman thought the Bishop of Gloucester capable of using fabricated and turgeu documents to support his statements, there was an end of the case. Mr. HORSMAN—I quoted from the blue books--. was that pamphlet of equal authority? Mr. GLADSTONE was not quoting anything con tradictory to what had been stated by the Hon. Gentleman. He was merely showing that the bishop considered it disparaging to suppose that he would renew the lease on the same term of lives on copy hold. Well, but you say " that is the very thing be has done."—(Hear, hear.) He was not so sure of that. The bishop was both lessor and lessee.—(A laugh.) The Honourable Member for Guildford, who laughed, only laughed at his own mistake, and showed how little he understood the matter. The bishop had great powers, and public opinion would hold him responsible for the use he made of these powers. He must, there fore, say, as far as he had been able to follow the state ments of the Honourable Gentleman, that he' had en tirely failed in proving these statements, and that he had not shown reasonable care before making them. The Bishop of Gloucester had only exercised his un doubted rights as an ecclesiastical proprietor. He might agree with the Hon. Member in thinking these rights were too great—that they rested on a wrong foundation, and ought to be amended; but that was a totally diffe rent question from their exercise while they did exist, and it was hard and cruel that a bishop should be held up to public odium who believed that he had been acting with the most munificent intentions towards the Church. —(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Gladstone) had full confi dence in his honour, and that he would act on the prin ciples he had laid down for his guidance with respect to Horfield Manor—that he would still act in what had been described by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners as a " liberal" spirit. It seemed clear that his intention was to apply the money for renewal to the very pur poses the Hon. Gentleman had in view, namely, the augmentation of the smaller livings in his diocese. lie hoped the generosity of these intentions would be taken into consideration, and that the future acts of the bishop would be left to be visited with censure if he did not act up to them; but he called upon the House not to con demn him beforehand. Attrr a few words in explanation from Mr HORSMAN, Sir J. GRAHAM expressed his regret at finding this discussion going on when he entered the House, and be was not sure that it was for the public benefit that the discussion should be allowed to proceed.—(Hear, hear.) But he was afraid that his silence might be misconstrued, and therefore telt bound to state briefly his opinion. tie had not been appointed a member of the Ecclesiatical Commission until 1841, and ho quite agreed that the present state of the matter was not, in many respects, satisfactory, especially in the distinction between the episcopal and the common funds.—(Loud cries of '• Hears hear.") He thought such a distinction was most injurious, not only to the public, but to the prelates themselves. and he rejoiced that last year a remedy had been ap plied to this particular evil, and hoped that would have been accepted as an indication that other reforms would follow. He bad no acquaintance with the Bishop of Gloucester and Bristol, save that arising from such inter course as arose from sitting at the common board of which they were members, and he was surprised that, looking at the high reputation of the bishop as a scholar and a gentleman, and one who was anything but nig. gardly in pecuniary matters—(Hear, hear)—such charges should have been made against him,—(Hear.) The high reputation he had sustained at the University of Cambridge, his character in his own diocese, and the fact that he was now approaching 70 years of age-- having during his long life sustained the reputation of a scholar and a gentleman, made him deeply regret that any transaction should have occurred which the Hon. Member considered it his duty to bring before the House in the terms he had.—(Hear, hear.) He must say, how. ever, that the part which he had taken on the Commis sion, had led him to entertain no doubt whatever, either of the high character or munificent intentions of the bishop. He had a right to exercise the powers invested in him, and believed he intended to do so for the benefit of the diocese. He only wished they could have a free con ference where the Hon. Gentleman might enter into discussion with the bishops.—(Hear. hear.) He would find these Right Reverend Prelates preternaturally sharp in words. — (Laughter.) But he put it to the Hon. Gen tleman, was it really worth while to hold up these pre lates as robbers, devastators, and plunderers? The bit. terest enemy of the Church could not use worse lan guage, and he must say be almost blushed to hear such expressions. He was quite sure that the Bishop of Gloucester's reputation for piety and morality would survive the imputations which had been cast upon it in the matter now under the consideration of the House. Sir B. HALL was quite confid en t th at goo d wou ld arise to the public out of the discussion of the ques tion now under the consideration of the House.—(Hear, hear.) What he now principally rose for was, to ex press a hope that the Government would app o i n t a Com mission with power and instructions to go into the whole question of the temporalities of the Church, and to so constitute that Commission that a satisfactory ac count would be given of such temporalities in each parish. He wished to ask the Right Honourable Gen tleman, the Member for the University of Cambridge, a question on a matter which had come under his autbo rity, namely, whether the return made by the bishops of the gross income of their sees, was a faithful re turn of the incomes of those bishops ? The bishops were required to make a return to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners of the full value of the profits of their sees, as derived by them, and they had made a return but be was given to understand that they had granted leases either for their trustees, or for the benefit of their own families ; but inasmuch as no money had passed. that no account had been rendered of the matter in the return. He found that the Bishop of Durham had re ceived 79,0001. more in that way than was accounted for in the fines, and he wished to ask the Right Hon. Gen tleman whether he could inform him that the bishop had greeted any leases for the benefit of his trustees or family. and whether the full value had been set upon them if he had? Mr. GOULBURN was not prepared to answer the question put to him by the Right Hon. Bsronet, net having had any intimation that such a question would be put to him. He, however, knew that the principle laid down by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners tended to give a fair result. With respect to the Bishop of Lon" don, he was enabled to state that in the leases he had made he made sacrifices of fines which, under other cir' cumetances of letting, he might have obtained. Sir B. HALL thought that the Right Hon. Gentle• man misunderstood the question which he put to him' The Right Hon. Gentleman would find in the second return, p. 234, that the Bishop of London in 1843 had received 13.519/.. and that he had granted leases to hilt" self to the amount of 12.0001., and yet the return or peered to show only 2,1611. The return, therefore, Wa s what he should call a fallacious return. Mr. GOULBURN could bear testimony that the Bishop of London had made very large sacrifices in the granting of leases. He granted leases from year t° year, whereas had he granted them in the ordinary way the who'', fine would have sppcared.. Sir R. INGLIS was glad to fitsveati - cippOrtunity 0f doing justice to a Right Rev. Prelate (the Bishop o f Gloucester) whose reputation had that night been Ate THE LATE MURDER 1N BELGIUM. The sale of a certain portion of the estate of Bitre mont, at Bury, in Belgium, belonging to the condemned Count de Bocarme, took place on Monday last before M. Dugnolle, notary at Baugnies. It was by the special order of the Count that the sale was effected. The land was divided into twenty-one lots, but only about a third was disposed of, and they fetched good prices. The remainder is to be put up for sale on a subsequent occasion. The bidders were mostly the small tarmers or landowners of the neighbourhood. It was only on the 10th October last that Cuunt de Bocarme came into possession of the es tate of Bitremont, though his father allowed him to live on it. Previous to that time he had, in addition to his wife's income, a certain sum annually from his father; when the latter made the division of his property amongst his children, the Count's share was about 240,000 f. Whilst the trial was going on, the Count and Countess de Bocarme joined in raising a loan for supplying their pecuniary wants and paying certain pressing obligations, and they signed a deed autho rising the sale of a portion of the estate, to secure e sale. pay ment. It was to cause the payment of this advance that the Count pressed on the sale. But no sooner was I the trial over, than the Countess, being acquitted, noti fied to the notary that she revoked what she had done. The Count, however, persisted in authorising the Madame de Bocarme's wish was to sell the chateau of Grandmetz, and other houses belonging to her brother, and to preserve the Bitremont estate intact. Finding that the notary declined to postpone the sale, she sent him a summons by huissier, but he paid no attention to it. On the 3d, as already stated, she arrived at Tour nay, and went to the hotel where her brother used to put up. She )eft the town amidst the hooting of the popu lace in the evening of that day, and proceeded, accom panied by her son and a chambermaid, to the house of M. Dugnolle, at Baugnies. She was not expected by him, and, at half-past ten, went to Bury, at a distance of three kilo metres, and slept in the house of Mr. Laurent, a notary. In the morning she walked with her son and chamber maid across the fields to the chateau of Bitremont, and wandered for some time about the old building, though the traces of her brother's murder still exist. Her manners were very easy, and her toilette elegant; but though she appeared in excellent health, her features were vale and contracted. She afterwards went to Mons. Her conduct, with respect to the sale, has in creased the ill-feeling of the public towards her; whilst the delicacy of her unfortunate husband, in persisting to pay a sacred debt, has caused much compassion for him. Madame de Bocarme is at present at Brussels, but it is not true, as has been stated, that she has sought a recon ciliation with her husband's mother. The chateau of Bitremont is under the care of a porter, and is shown to all visitors. The man takes pleasure in relating all the circumstances of the murder. HOP INTELLIGENCE. The Maidstone Gazette of Wednesday giv e s u s the latest news regarding this crop. The following extracts from our contemporary's report will serve as well for the dis- Wets which are not mentioned, as for those which are specified below, the accounts being nearly similar from all the districts. MikIDWTONE.—Some of the experienced planters are of opinion that no improvement is visible, but that the ver min rather increase than diminish—that the strong bines will probably do little, and the weak bines less. We have, however, heard other opinions from persons equally experienced, that it is yet too early to decide against a crop, as in some years much has been done under less favourable circumstances. BARMING.—Some grounds in this neighbourhood have improved, and some have given way. The hops for some miles round here appear much alike, and present very little appearance of a crop. FARLEIGIL—Some of the grounds present a very fa vourable appearance, and promise a capital crop; others are slightly affected with the mould. CANTERBURY.—The bops have presented a bad aspect in the past week, and on Wednesday they appeared worse than ever, particularly those that were inclined to be weakly, and which may now be said as done for. Many acres of this description will not yield any crop. Mould is still visible at places, and there is much fireblast. Seeing that it is impossible for many grounds to produce snore than a bag an acre, we think the duty is too high at 100,0001. General accounts speak of the critical state in which the hops are now pending—by the blue not growing well off the poles, without which it is impossible to get anything of a crop. FARNHAM, ALTON, AND COUNTRY DISTRICTS, JULY 12.—Our plantations have made great progress since our last report, but we have some vermin in the under branches; it is impossible to predict as to the result of their doings. SEABORNE MATLS. [N signifies that the malls are sent from the General Post-offios by the night—and Ai by the morning—dispatch.] When made up in From what When PLACES. General Post-office port die- due. London. patched. America (by Brit. pkt.)N July 18 .. Liverpool .. July 20 America (by U.S. pkt.) N July 22 .. Liverpool .. July 30 America (by U.S. pkt.) M July 30 Southampt. July 24 Africa (West coast)•. N 14th of the month Plymouth Aug. 3 Al exan d r i a * _ N 19th & 30th of MO. Dover .. July 18 Belgium .. .. •• N Daily .. Dover .. Daily Brazil .. 11,9 th of the month Southampt. Aug. 12 Buenos Ayres .• 11119th of the month Southampt. Aug. 12 California(viaChagres)M 2d& 17th of month Southampt. July 20 Cape of Good Hope N 14th of month Plymouth.. Aug. 3 Constantinople* .• N 17th 17th 27th of mo Dover .. July 20 Central America .. Nl,2d & 17th of mon. Southampt. July 20 Channel Isles • • .. N Mon., Wed., & Fri. Southampt. Tn. Tla.S a Chili .. .. • M,l7th of the month Southampt. July 20 France M&N Twice daily .. .. Dover Twicedally Greece* • • . • • • N l 7th 17 th 27th ef mo Dover • • July 20 Hamburgh .. N Tuesday & Friday London .. Tues. Sat. Holland Wednes. & Satur. Loudon .. Moa.Thcr Honduras Nl7th of the mouth Southampt. July 20 Ireland . 31 . & N Twice daily .. Holyhead .. Twicedaily India (via Southamp.) M 20th of the month Southampt. July 23 India (viaMarsoilles) N 7th& 24th efmonth Dover • • Aug. 1 Mediterranean (via Southampton) .. 5120th of the month Southampt. July 23 I Mediterranean (via Marseilles) N 7th& 24th ofmonth Dover • • • Aug. 1 Mexico .. M2d of the month.. Southampt. Aug. 5 Madeira .. M 9th of tke month Southampt. Aug. 12 f l 7th,l7th,l9th,27th M a l ta . • • • • Nii & 30th of month Dover July 18 Naples* N sth 15th 25th ofmo Dover .. July 21 Papal States* N stlllsth2sth of rao Dover .. July 22 Peninsular M 7th 17th 27th of mo Southampt. July 26 Peru .. M 17th of the month Southampt. July 20 Tuscany* .. N sth 15th 25th of mo Dover •• , July 22 West Indies .M 17th of the mouth I Southanapt.lJuly 20 West Indies (exce/it Havaana & Nassau) Id 2d of the month .. 4, The mails to those c ountries thus marl French packet vl,t Marseilles. CALtroiNis.—Mails to and from Califorall are now despatched and due by every Amarii !Southanapt. jAug. 5 Eed (.) are conveyed b) La, via the United States ican packet. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF COMMONS. July 17. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. NEW MEMBER. The Right Hon. EDWARD STRUTT took the oaths and his seat for Arundel in the room of the Earl of Arundel and Surrey. PRIVATE BUSINESS. Upton's Estate Bill was read a third time and passed. PETITIONS. Mr. BROADLEY and other Hon. Members presented petitions, from various parts of the country, praying for the continuance of the Crystal Palace. Mr. DUNCAN presented a petition from Aberdeen against the Public-houses (Scotland) Bill. Mr. HEADLA &I presented a petition is favour of the Arrest of Absconding Debtors' Bill. Mr. M. GIBSON presented a petition from the Society of Arts, and another petition from Manchester, in favour of the Patents Bill. Mr. COBDEN presented petitions from various Wes leyan bodies in the West Riding, complaining of the proceedings of conference, and praying the House to take steps to secure Wesleyan reform. Mr. HUME presented a petition from Montrose, praying that the postal communication between Scot land and the metropolis may be facilitated. YARMOUTH MAILS. Mr. FREWEN asked Mr. Cornewall Lewis, if he had received any report from the General Post-office relative to the transmission of the mails from Great Yarmouth to Leicester and Rugby, in consequence of the discussion which took place in this House more than three months ago? Mr. C. LEWIS said that a minute of the discussion in question was under the consideration of the Post master-General, whose report was expected to reach the Treasury in a few days. COUNTY RATES EXPENDITURE BILL. In answer to a question from Sir J. PAKINGTON, Mr. M. GIBSON said that the County Rates Expen diture Bill, which had just passed through a Select Com mittee had received so many alterations a t the sugges tion of the Government, and as the Right Hon. Baronet the Home Secretary was not able to attend in his place, he did not think it would be possible to proceed with the Bill this session. THE NAVIGATION-LAWS. In answer to a question from Mr. DISRAELI, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the discussion on the navigation-laws would be taken on Monday, if the Committee of Supply were closed. Mr. HERRIES, in reply to Mr. M. Gibson, said that it was his intention certainly to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice on this subject. IRISH BUSINESS. Mr. E. B. ROCHE complained of the manner in which Irish business was set down in the paper, night after night, too late for any chance of being brought on; and, he believed, without any desire on the part of the Govern ment to bring it on. He suggested that one day should be appropriated to nothing else but Irish business. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the House had lately been occupied on Committees of Supply, and that, ha thought, was quite as much Irish as English business. This evening, particularly, out of sixteen votes which had to be proposed twelve were Irish. He could not, at present, fix any day for Irish business solely. After a few words from Mr. MONSELL and Colonel DUNNE, the subject dropped. HARWICH ELECTION. Mr. BANKES moved that it be an instruction to the General Committee of Elections, to select a chairman and six oth er M em bers to be the Select Committee ap pointed to inquire into the allegations of a petition re lative to the last election for the borough of Harwich; and t‘nat the Members so selected do constitute the said Committee, with power to send for persons, papers, and records, and that five be the quorum. Mr. COBDEN said it was not his intention to oppose the motion, as the Government, whose conduct it affected, had consented to an inquiry, but he did BEWILDERED BY BRADS . I IA appointment of a Commtttee. This Committee, if agreed not see that any good result would arise from the to, would make the fourth which had sat on the borough It is an affecting instance of th e in easiness and depression on the mind e smence and un- of Har w i c h durin g the present s ess i on . Si nce 1837, h e af he now commenced wildly to seek r Mr. Lost, that b e li eve d t h ere was not one elect i on which was the object of his not followed by one or more Committees of in journey in the strange s t di re ctior.s. Abandoning the quiry.—(Hear, hear.) The character of Har railreads on which he had under! i ene so mu c h, he began with was well known. The blue books contained to institute a feverish inquiry for it among ' host of a record of its proceedings, and it was well known as boarding-houses and hot els. " Bed, breakfast, pre-eminent for corruption in every possible form. The boots, aud attendance, two an d B;.tpence per last Committee appointed had taken some pains to in day. —g Bed and boot& seven shillinegs per week." yestigate into the circumstances which occurred at the —" Wines and spirits of the ctencest quality." election, and he thought, before a new writ was issued, —" Night porter in constarst attendance."— the minutes of the evidence should be laid on the table. " For night arrivals, ring tie priveste door bell."—" Om- Mr. DUNCOMBE considered it was highly creditable nibuses to and from all Vans of London every minute." to the Government not to oppose an inquiry ; but the —" Do not confound th'ss house with any other of the House ought to ascertain before it consented to the mo same name." Amor.ig such addresses to the public did tion, whether or not there was a prima facie case for hives- Mr. Lost now seek P eor a way to Worcester. As might tigation. No inquiry, in his opinion, was wanted. The have been anticir,ated—as he did anticipate, in fact, borough only contained 140 or 150 voters, and being for he was hop' His intellect elesa now—it was no t t o b e f oun d t h ere. notorious for corruption and intimidation ought to be ',/n8 greatly shaken. Mr. Lost has left, in disfranchised.—(Hear.) Sudbury would have great his diary, P. record so minute of the gradual deadening reason to complain if such a borough as Harwich was of his intelligence and benumbing of his faculties, that not disfranchised. The Noble Lord at the head he cars. be followed downward, as it were step by step. of the Government had promised a measure of Thetis we find, that when he had exhausted the board- reform next session, and if it were worth 'any ing-houses and hotels, family, commercial and otherwise thing it must contain a good round Schedule A when (in which ho found his intellect much enfeebled by the such places as Harwich and St. Albans existed.— constant recurrence of the hieroglyphic " 1-6-51— (Hear, hear.) An example ought to be made of W. J. A."), he addressed himself, with the same dismal all such boroughs.—(Hear, hear.) He had no object, to Messrs. Moses and Son, and to Hr. Medwin, boot- objection to the Committee, but believed that maker to his Royal Highness Prince Albert. After them, the inquiry would be altogether abortive.—(Hear.) even to inanimate things, as the Patent Compendium Port- Mr. J. STUART said the Hon. Member for Finsbury manteau, theimprovedChaffMachine s and Corn Crushers, was ready to disfranchise th e borough w ith ou t t h e the Norman Razor, th e B an k o f England Sealing Wax, slightest trial or inquiry. —(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Schweppe's Soda Water, the Extract of Sarsaparilla, the Member held the rights of electors to be sacred, yet Registered Paletat, Rowlands' Kalydor, the Cycloidal proposed to deprive them in this instance:of those rights Parasol, the Cough Lozenges, the universal night-light, on a principle of confiscation equal to that the poncho, Allsopp's pale ale, and the patent knife adopted by the French Directory.—(Hear, hear.) cleaner. Failing, naturally, in all these appeals, and in He thought the Hon. Member was an advocate for giving a anal address to his Grace the Duke of Wellington in Harwich the benefit of the same laws respecting pro the gentlemanly summer garment, and to Mr. Burton of i perty and the franchise which was possessed by ,the the General Furnishing Ironmongery Warehouse, he electors of Finsbury, and not for depriving them of it sank into a stupor and abandoned hope. Mr. Lost is without a hearing.—(Hear.) now a ruin. He is at the Enston-square HoteL When Mr. B. OSBORNE protested against the electors of advised to return home he merely shakes his head and Finsbury being likened at all to those who returned mutters " Ware Tu . . 6." No cabman can be found Members for Harwich.—(A lauh. They over and who will t a k e charge of him on those instructions. He over aga i n b een brought before g Committees a had nd proved sits continually turning over the leaves of a small dog's- guilty of bribery and corruption, and sb e Hon. Member eared quarto volume with a yellow cover, and babbling bad no right to make so invidious a comparison with in a pl a i n ti ve voice, " Bradshaw, Bradshaw." A the i n d e p en d ent electors of Finsbu r —(H e ar, hear. few days s i nce, ) Mrs. Lost, having been cautiously Again protesting ag a i ns t t h e H on. M e m ber for Newark, made acquainted with his cendition, arrived at the hotel, reps assenting a small and not very I ,are borough, com accompanied by the confidential domestic. The first paring Finsbury with Harwich, he hoped this inquiry words of the heroic woman were:—" John Lost, don't woui 'd be confined to those who had not made up their make a spectacle of yourself', don't. Who am I?" replied, " BRADSHAW." " John Lost," said Mrs. Lost, He mine Is upon this subject. Su • B. HALL said this was no ne ,w case. Harwich " I have no patience with you. Where have you been was long ago proved to be COre" apt, and it ought, put in sriaedule Re was to?" Fluttering the leaves of th e b ook, he answered, wittit but further delay, be CAPTURE of the CARLISLE _HIGHWAYMEN. The cool desperadoes who have recently been causing such consternation in Cumberland, by their audacious pranks, have at length been captured. From the sudden disappearance of two questionable characters from their lodgings in Botchergate, suspicion immediately fell upon them. One of them, named Thomas Tinyon, a weaver by profession, but a poacher in practice, is well known in Carlisle, especially to the authorities of the gaol ; the other, Hugh Monteith, about twenty-two years of age, has been occupied at one time as a gardener in the neighbourhood of the town, but was dismissed by his last employers for dishonesty. The capture was rather neatly effected. Police -constables Snowdon and Ander son set off from Carlisle on Sunday afternoon, in a gig, dressed in plain clothes. They had previously ascer tained that Monteith's father lived at Gretna, so they called there on their way, and contrived to find out that both he and Tinyon were in Maxwelltown. They pro. ceeded at once to Maxwelltown, and at half-past one in the morning, with the aid o f a cons t a bl e f rom Annan, they succeeded in capturing both prisoners, though in different houses of the same street. Each had a female accomplice, but the police came upon them so unex pectedly that they had no time for resistance. Mon teith made an effort to reach the six -barrelled revolver, which was near the bed, whilst one of the constables was securing his clothes; but a second officer seized him and prevented mis chief, for all the barrels of the pistol were loaded with powder and ball, with a cap on each nipple. In Mon teith's pockets were found the watch stolen from the farmer, and a guinea which the commercial traveller had thrown to him with other money in his purse. Tinyon had a brace of pistols loaded, and two boxes containing bullets and caps. Monteith, when frustrated in his attempt to reach the pistol, said with an oath to Anderson, that had he known it was them, he would have sent three bullets through their bodies. However, both prisoners were secured and carried to the county police-station for the night, and the next (Tues day) morning they were brought on to Carlisle, where they will undergo an examination before the magistratee,. It is scarcely possible to estimate the satisfaction w}: g i c h is on all hands expressed at the timely capture of th ese daring highwaymen. thatta tacked, e in tiltlned la3.f great 0. , be en a , it " Per 4 on ti ' le aPPnit d r t a u herael had il°l'itil9°tb:l4:ll4l4'ibt6 that aG i Sgee s sti agtr h i d "" tb • ontirti cone e t w ho g ith re 10 i of air , been n th e Bish o p i g d) t r h :w o : ' moral r* üblic it his 41 ' 1 meets " is nishop id ° again •Fr 04 ust the th a t thi s wa ,, ,uargoa • -- Mr. sli o WANN a fair b e the sub' -11(1 ' i r o bject, a kr, th MA n_esieraber 11. J wR hic , eBti . 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