The Sun. — London, England, 1845-05-23 00:00:00

METROPOLITAN COMPLETE SUFFRAGE SOIREE. On Wednesday evening a tea party and soiree of the members and friends of the Metropolitan Complete Suffrage Association took place in the great room of the Crown and Anchor Tavern, Strand. The hour fixed for the company to assemble was half-past five o'clock, by which time the room was completely filled by a respectable assemblage, a considerable proportion of whom were lads. Among the gentlemen present, in addition to the chairman, Sharman Crawford, Esq., M.P., we noticed Lawrence leyworth, Esq., of Liverpool ; Dr. Price, editor of the Eclectic Review ; Mr. Miall, editor of the Nonconformist ; Dr. Epps, the Rev. Mr. Spencer, the Rev. Mr. Dawson, of Birmingham; Colonel P. Thomp son, the Rev. T. Thomas, of Pontypool ; the Rev. P. Murcell, of Leicester; Mr. W. H. Ashurst, Mr. H. Vin cent, Mr. W. IL Wilson, of Birmingham; the Rev. C. Stovell, and the Rev. R. S. Bayley, of Sheffield. On the removal of the cloth, The CHAIRMAN rose to address the assembly amidst lotid and continued cheers. He said he had been called upon to preside over the present assembly, which was a meeting of the Complete Suffrage Association of London, and the nucleus of a body which he hoped would ere long extend its influence into a larger sphere, and which relied upon the truth and justice of its principles for ultimate success. It was not his intention to enter into any lengthened observations on the subject which had called them together. It was to take an ex pression of their opinion on the course he had proposed to take on the resolutions of Lord John Russell, about to be submitted to Parliament in a few days. On these resolutions he proposed to move an amendment, and he had given notice of that intention. That Noble Lord had intimated that his resolutions were for the improving of the present circumstances of the working classes ; but they contained one important omission—they left out altogether the recognition of the great question on which public liberty could alone rest, the extension of the suf frage to the working classes.—(Loud cheers.) He had seen that it was omitted, and he thought it was his duty not to suffer the House of Commons to entertain any such aesolutions without forcing the great subject of Parliamentary suffrage upon its notice.—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) He could hardly think how any man, entertaining a sincere desire of benefiting the working classes, could refuse them the only efficient means of protecting themselves—the power of selecting parties to represent their interest in the Commons House of Parliament. On that account he had, there fore, considered it his duty to test the House on the subject, by giving notice of his amendment. He did not enter into any lqpgthy arguments of the justice and ne cessity of the steT he intended to take, as that in such a meeting would be unnecessary, but he would call their attention to a few facts, well calculated to strengthen the position they had taken, and to illustrate the present defeetive state of the representation of the country. According to the population returns, the inha bitants of Great Britain were 27,000,000, and the elec tosal body 1,012,000, while the male adult population was 7,00,000. Thus the number of electors was but 1-27th of the population, and only 1-7th of the male adults. The whole enactments of the laws of the coun try and the imposition of taxes were thus placed in the hands of 1-7th of the male adults and but 1-27th of the people. Ought such a system, therefore, to con tinue ?s--(llear, hoar.) The viciousness of the system was further shown in the " distribution of the electoral franchise. He found that 330 Members of the House Of Commons, or more than one-half of its number, were returned by 300,000, or one twenty-third of the adult male population; and 27 boroughs, with a popula tion of 172,297, and 6,943 electors, returned a greater number of Members than all the important towns in the empire, having a population of 3,129,000 and 149,889 electors. These facts spoke for themselves. This wasa most vicious state of the representation and one that ought not to be allowed to continue. After further pointing out the anomalies and evils that resulted from this restricted mode of representation, and the justice and utility of en larging it, so as to include the whole people, the }kn. Gentleman sat down amidst loud and continued creering. The Rev. T. SPENCER, of Bath, proposed the first sentiment :—" The complete suffrage movement, which is based on the principles of truth and justice, and is thoroughly christian in its character ; may its principles soon become the political creed of every earnest and up right man." He saw no reason whatever in the present system of representation. They found in one corner of the country that certain parties, called freemen, without property had votes ; in another, a man who had a small property worth 403. a year; in a third, one who paid 501. a year rent for land; and in a fourth, one who paid 101. per annum for the use of a house. Yet no reason whatever could be liven for this distinction. The system was so anomalous, that a man who paid 101. a year in a town had a vote, whOle the man who rented a house in a vil lage worth 401. had none ; in one place he who was said to be a freeman, but without property, was enfranchised, ',while the man of property in London, if he only happened to occupy lodgings, was completely disqualified. He would say, give votes to all who pay taxes. They would find many a rogue in a 10/. house, while many an honest man occupied houses of a lower rental ; yet the former had a voice in making the laws of the country, the latter had none. All men who paid taxes, he contended, should have a vote. It was said that man was made in the image of God, aid God never intended that his image should be trampled upon and oppressed.—(Loud Cheers.) He supported complete suffrage, because the Scriptures said they should be no respecters of persons, and that they should do to others as they would that others should do unto them. At the present day there was a.great amount of false religion current in society, and its professors were continually telling them that Christianity had nothing to do with politics ; but if such was the fact—if religion had nothing to do with the common affairs of life, then he for one thought it had better walk off the face of the earth at once.—(Loud cheers.) But this was not the truth. They had before them the example of Christ himself, who stood up against the rulers and oppressors of his time, and laid down the great principles of human equality and political freedom ; and they had also the example of his disciples and apostles, to show that politics was essentially a religious question.—(Cheers.) 'The Hon. Gentleman then proceeded to point out the ad vantages of an extended suffrage. At town and parish meetings, at Exeter-hall, at county meetings, they saw the principle of universal suffrage in operation. In fact, the ancient state of things at their county and borough elections was election by this means. Among Dissenters they beheld the ministers elected by members of congre gations by the general suffrage of all those who were to receive spiritual instruction • and, surely, if a man was qualified to elect those who should watch over his eternal interests, he was equally qualified and entitled to elect the maker of the temporal laws by which he was governed. With respect to education a great deal had been said, as if a knowledge of geography, of astronomy, of Latin, of Greek, or of the sciences generally—as if a knowledge of the nature of the moon, or any of the other questions involved in those branches of study, were neces sary to make a man understand a political question. In his opinion, the education necessary for the exercise of the suffrage was not initiation in grammar, and logic, an d literature, and science, but into the operation of th e taxes, into the laws sit affected industry, into the influence of monopoly, and into the general bearing of the government on the condition of the people. If they wanted to teach a person to swim, the way was to throw him into the water ; if to skate, to put him on the ice. And so should it be with the exercise of the suffrage ; tnee rive it to the people, and then they would soon learn to exercise it ; they would soon inquire how the ques tions of the day operated upon the welfare of the masses, and upon that knowledge so acquired, they would decide upon the merits ' o f all men who might seek to represent them in Parliament. Further, in addition to the general and equal extension of the suffrage to the body of the adult population, they (the complete suffragists) sought to equalise districts according to population, so that Yorkshire might be placed on the same footing as Dorsetshitre, according to the ratio of population. They sought annual Parliaments, because they would secure faithful representatives, and operate in making Members watch over and respect the interests and opinions of their constituents. After glancing at the other six points advocated by the complete suffragists, and reviewing the history of those principles since the time of the French Revolution until now, in the progress of which he strongly ittrked his condemnation of the proceedings of the Chartists, he coneiuded a very eloquent address, amidst laid cheers, by moving the sentiment already given. Dr. Ergs responded to the sentiment, and said the reason why the principles which the Reverend Gentle man who had just sat down so eloquently advocated had not progressed more than they had done, was attributa ble to the apathy of the people to their true interests. That apathy, however, he was glad to say, was gra dually disappearing under the teachings of the Complete Suffrage Association, and by the labours of such elo quent advocates as Mr. Vincent.—(Cheers.) The prin ciples of complete suffrage, as Mr. Spencer had well re preiented, were those of justice, of truth, and honesty, and had their foundation in that book of books—that book which he was sure they all respected—the Bible. Mr. LAWRENCE lIEYWORTH proposed the next senti ment, which was as follows:—'• The representation of the people. May the present electoral system, which is de structive of all mental honesty and self-respect, clothes vice the garb of virtue and equally opposed to true wisdom an d genuine liberty, be speedily replaced by one of equal justice to all." He supported the principles of the sentiment, because he believed that they would be the means of advancing truth, moral goodness, and introducing better feelings and practices in the intercourse between man and man. He wished representation to be co -equal 7ith . taxa tion. He desired that the applied to the freeman of former times should be ap plied to the people of the present day. Then l those who were subject to the burden of taxation were a cntisled to meet in popular assembly, and elect their re presentatives to Parliament. Now taxation, instead of b e i m? , restricted to a portion of the people, was extended en all, and so he held should be electoral rights.— (Cheers.) To tax the poor to the extent of 30 per cent., a rate far higher than that imposed on the rich, and yet deny the poor having a vote, was nothing but an act of wholesale robbery.—(Loud cheer 4.) Their movement was one based on Christian truth, on the Scriptures, unlike similar political movements of a former day, and on that account alone, if on no other, he was sure would suoce.A. By courage, perseverance, and temper dnee the great object they all sought to obtain would surely be real'sei. The Rev. Mr. DAwsoN, of Birmingham, responded to the sentiment. Colonel P. THOMPSON next addresssd the meeting. He looked upon the present meeting as a w reck of the former great, energetic, and powerful party—the part that i once passed under the name of Reform. H e would ad dress himself to the principle causes that, n his estima tion, had brought about the breaking-up of that . once powerful p a rty. Th e first cause of evil was the letting in the 561 tenants-at-will. The next great slip was giving a preponderating influence to the landed interest. The next source of mischief was the bad practices of those whom the Reform Bill brought into power, the Whigs. That party stayed the progress of those prin ciples which had carried them into power, entered into unjustifiable wars, and narrowly escaped a devastating war with France, from their folly, only from the Government of that country being muzzled, from having 60,000 men locked up at Algiers. Another event that led to their depression was the fatal and foolish compact entered into between certain sections of the Reform party to reduce their efforts for further reform, from the hopes of obtain ing certain boroughs in Ireland, and for exposing which he had been denounced, and suffered. Another.and a last reason for their breaking down, was the conduct of the operative classes—or at least those who gave them selves that name—he meant the advocates of the Charter, who, by their wild and foolish proceedings, had brought disgrace on the just principles which they set up, and separated from them the great body of the middle and the intelligent classes. Having assigned these reasons for their present conduct, the Gallant Colonel proceeded at some length to illustrate the sentiment in his usual graphic and happy manner, mid concluded by proposing it amidst loud and continued cheers. Mr. Edward Miall, Dr. Price, the Rev. Mr. Phillips, Mr. Vincent, and the Rev. P. Murcell, subsequently addressed the meeting, which broke up at half-past ten o'clock. OREGON TERRITORY. CONVENTIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES TO THE OREGON TERRITORY. The conventions in force have evidently been founded upon a treaty between England and Spain, concluded at the Escurial, on the 28th October, 1790, and well known as " the Nootka Sound Convention." It is upon this convention that the right to the Oregon territory really turns ; for, in the treaty between Spain and the United States for the purchase of Florida, Spain conveyed to the United States all its rights, privileges, and immuni ties, with respect to the north-west territory of North America, held by it under the Nootka Sound Conven tion, to the United States ; and any rights they possess therein or thereto, they possess in virtue of their stand ing in the place of Spain. The following are the articles in the convention of 1790, which relate to the territory now called the Oregon : " Art. 1. It is agreed that the buildings and tracts of land, situated on the north-west coast of the continent of North America, or on islands adjacent to that conti nent, of which the subjects of his Britannic Majesty were dispossessed, about the month of April, 1789, by a Spanish officer, shall be restored to the said British subjects." The second article of this treaty authorises reparation for all acts of violence and hostility committed, subse quent to April, 1789, by the subjects of either power ; and by article 3, " It is agreed, that their respective subjects shall not be disturbed or molested, either in navigating or car rying on their fisheries in the Pacific Ocean, or in the South Seas, or in landing on the coasts of those seas, in places not already occupied, for the purpose of car rying on their commerce with the natives of the country, or of making settlements there ; the whole subject, nevertheless, to the restrictions and provisions specified in the three following articles : " Art. 4. His Britannic Majesty engages to take the most effectual measures to prevent the navigation and fishery of his subjects in the Pacific Ocean, or in the South Seas, from being made a pretext for illicit trade with the Spani-h settlements ; and, with this view, it is moreover expressly stipulated, that British subjects shall not navigate, or carry on their fishery in the said seas, within the space of ten sea leagues from any part of the coasts already occupied by Spain. " Art. 5. It is agreed, that as well in the places which are to be restored to the British subjects, by virtue of the first article, as in all other parts of the north western coasts of North America, or of the islands ad jacent, situated to the north of the parts of the said coast already occupied by Spain, wherever the subjects of either of the two powers shall have made settlements since the month of April, 1789, or shall hereafter make any, the subjects of the other shall have free access, and shall carry on their trade without any disturbance or molestation. "Art. 6. It is further agreed, with respect to the eastern and western coasts of South America, and to the islands adjacent, that no settlement shall be formed hereafter, by the respective subjects, in such part of those coasts as are situated to the south of those parts of the same coasts, and of the islands adjacent, which are already occupied by Spain ; provided that the said re spective subjects shall retain the liberty of landing on the coasts and islands so situated, for the purposes of their fishery, and of erecting thereon huts and other temporary buildings serving only for those purposes. "Art. 7. In all cases of complaint, or infraction of the articles of the present convention, the officers of either party, without permitting themselves previously to com mit any violence or act of force, shall be bound to make an exact report of the affair, and of its circumstances, to their respective Courts, who will terminate such dif ferences in an amicable manner." The Americans having stepped into the place of the Spaniards, we now come to the convention between his Britannic Majesty (George III.) and the United States, signed at London, October 20th, 1818. This convention sets forth, that, these two powers being " desirous to ce ment the good understanding which happily subsists be tween them, have for that purpose named their respec tive plenipotentiaries," viz., the Right Hon. F. J. Robin son (afterwards Lord Goodrich), and Henry Goulburn, Esq. (then one of the Under Secretaries of State,) on the part of Great Britain ; and Albert Gallatin, Esq., then the United States Envoy Extraordinary and Mi nister Plenipotentiary to the Court of France ; and Ri chard Rush, Esl., then holding the same office at the Court of London. The first article of this treaty settles the boundaries within which the Americans may take, dry, and cure fish, &c.; the second is the memorable one with respect to the disputed boundary line between Maine and British America, which is only noticeable here for its reference to " the Stony [now generally called 'Rocky'] Mountains;" the line set forth therein being agreed "to form the southern boundary of the said territories of his Britannic Majesty, and the north ern boundary of the territories of the United States, from the Lake of the Woods to the Stony Mountains." But it is with the next article in this treaty of 1818 that we have now to do, as it forms the basis of the ex isting convention with the United States in reference to the Oregon territory. We give it entire:— " Article 111. It is agreed, that any country that may be claimed by either party on the north• west coast of America, westward of the Stony Mountains, shall, to gether with its harbours, bays, and creeks, and the navi gation of all rivers within the same, be free and open for the term of ten years from the date of the signature of the present convention, to the vessels, citizens, and subjects of the two powers, it being well understood, that this agreement is not to be construed to the preju dice of any claim which either of the two high contracting parties may have to any part of the said country, nor shall it be taken to affect the claims of any other power or state to any part of the said country; the only object of the high contracting parties, in that respect, being to prevent disputes and differences amongst themselves." The other articles of this convention have no reference to the Oregon or north-west territory. We now come to the " convention between his Britannic Majesty and the United States, relative to the territory on the north west coast of America," which was signed at London, August 6th, 1827." It recites that his Majesty the King of Great Britain and Ireland (George IV.) and the United States, " being equally desirous to prevent, as far as possible, all hazard of misunderstanding between the two nations, with respect to the territory on the north-west coast of America, west of the Stony or Rocky Mountains, after the expiration (in October, 1828) of the third article of the convention concluded between them on the 20th October, 1818 ; and also with a view to give further time for maturing measures which shall have for their object a more definite settlement of the claims of each party to the said territory—have respec tively named their Plenipotentiaries to treat and agree concerning a temporary renewal of the said article ;" viz., the Right Hon. Charles Grant (afterwards Lord Glenelg), and H. U. Addington, Esq. ; and Albert Gallatin, the United States Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to his Britannic Majesty. As this convention indefinitely extends and continues in force, all the provisions of the third article of that of October, 1818, and is the treaty of the intention to annul which notice (it is understood) has just been given by the British Government, we insert the whole of its articles en tire : " Art. I.—All the provisions of the third article of the convention concluded between his Majesty the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and the United States of America, on the 20th of October, 1818, should be, and they are hereby, further indefinitely' extended and continued in force, in the same manner as if all the provisions of the said article were herein speci fically recited. " Art. ll.—lt should be competent, however, to either of the contracting parties, in case either should think fit, at any time after the 20th of October, 1818, on giving due notice of twelve months tl the other contracting party, to annul and abrogate this convention: and it should, in such case, be accordingly entirely annulled and abrogated, after the expiration of the said term of notice. " Art. 111. Nothing contained in this convention, or n the third article of the convention of the 20th of October, 1818, hereby continued in force, should be con • strued to impair, or in any manner affect, the claims which either of the contracting parties may have to any part of the country westward of the Stony or Rocky Mountains. "Art. IV. The present convention should be ratified, and the ratifications should be exchanged in nine months, or sooner, if possible." We may add, that on the 23d May, 1828, Mr. Secre tary Peel presented to the House of Commons, by his Majesty's command, a copy of this convention, together with copies of other conventions with the United States. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION -HOUSE. YESTER - 15AY.5 A young man, n ( amed Thomas Peat, a cab proprietor and driver, was brought before the Lord Mayor, in the custody of John Forrester, charged with having committed a forgery upon the house of Curtis, Robarts, and Co., bankers, of Lombard -street. Mr. Bush, of the firm of Bush and Mullins, solicitors to the Committee of Bankers for the protection against forgeries and frauds, appeared for the prosecution. Mr. George Brackett, clerk in the banking-house, stated that oa the 30th of December, 1844, he received from his principals instructions to enter a bill for 350 i., as discounted for a gentleman of the name of Richard Latham, who was an old customer of the house. Th e 9 t t n h e &a of found July, an entry of the discount o bill was discounted upon the supposed application of Dir. Latham. (Here the bill w f a t s h pr oduced.)onWl 2 it to Mr. Baron, one of his fellow cer 1844. He made a calculation e of the k discount, and gave The LORD MAYOR—Was the bill accompanied by any document? Witness replied that the bill was accom panied by a letter, vthich was supposed to be Mr. Latham's. Mr. Henry Barrow, clerk and cashier at the banking house, stated that he entered the particulars of the notes with which the bill was paid upon the bill. They were -300/., 49,099, 11th January, 1844 ; 301., 37,794, 6th March, 1844 ; and 51., 17 099, 2d July, 1844. Mr. Dennis M`Donnel, manager of the Loan-office, No. 144, Great John-street-road, stated that the house to which he belonged granted loans to tradesmen upon security. He knew the prisoner, had transacted loans for him on respectable security, and had frequently seen him write, and had received letters from him. Witness believed that the letter which accompanied the bill was in the prisoner's handwriting, and also that the name of Richard Latham was written by the prisoner. (Here a letter, dated 4th September, 1844, addressed to Messrs. Robarts and Co., and signed Richard Latham, was produced. Witness had a very strong belief that the writing in that letter was the prisoner's. He had a stronger conviction as to the writing on the bank-notes. If the notes had been shown to him unconnected with the name of the prisoner, he did not know that he should have said at once that the name on the notes was in his handwriting. He believed the writing to be the pri soner's. Mr. A. W. Robarts stated that he had knows Mr. Richard Latham, whose name was attached to the bill, for many years as a customer of the house. Informa tion was sent to Mr. Latham that the bill had been placed to the debit of his account, and he called at the house and disclaimed the bill. The LORD MAYOR desired to know whether the pri soner wished to say anything in his defence ? The Prisoner---I have only to observe that lam quite inno cent of all the charges which have been brought against me. — The prisoner was then remanded till Monday next. Mr. Latham was formerly a partner in the highly re spectable firm of Sir Henry Meux and Co., the brewers, and we understand the prisoner is the son of one of his old servants. A man, named George Harris, who is employed as a time-keeper for the omnibuses near the Bank, was charged with having excited a person to resist the police. Alexander Scott (policeman, No. 448) stated that at a few minutes before seven o'clock on Monday evening he asked the inspector and a sergeant to go with him to Princes-street, to apprehend a man for cruelty to a horse. Witness called out to the driver to come down, but the defendant said to him, " Sit where you are— they dare not take you into custody;" and then turned to witness, and used abusive language, and stated that the coat should be dragged off his back before two months were passed. If some assistance had not been rendered, the possibility was that the case would have been serious. The prisoner was ordered to be sent to the Compter for fourteen days. In this case there was less, perhaps, of resistance to the authorities than had been exposed for some time in charges of this nature. The LORD MAYOR said, that as it was his intentioff to inflict imprisonment when the penalty was left to the discretion of the Magistrate, he hoped the fraternity of drivers of cabs would make themselves acquainted with the charm by which individuals secured the respect and affection of those around them. [ln a former report, the name of the time-keeper of Gracechurch-street, who is a very respectable man, was mentioned by mistake.] MANUFACTURING AND WOOL MARKETS. BRADFORD TRADE, MAY 15.—There is nothing more animated in the long Wool trade ; the consumers con tinue to supply themselves on the narrowest possible scale, and as the quality in the market is only bare, prices remain firm. Short Wool is still eagerly sought after, and commands full prices. Yarn.—We regret that we cannot record a change for the better. There are great complainings, and the operations of the spinners will continue to be curtailed till the prices for Yarns are improved. Piece.—Being holiday week there has not been so good an attendance of either merchants or manu facturers, and the business done hardly an average of se veral weeks past. I❑ prices there is no change. NOTTINGHAM HOSIERY AND LACE TRADES, MAY 16. —The wrought Cotton Hose branch, which is the prin cipal manufacture of the county of Nottingham, as re spects the number of workmen employed, is gradually retrograding in about the same ratio as it advanced for the last twelve months ; this is in part attributed to the increase of drop-offs, or hose made at three separate ma nipulations from three distinct frames. The cat-up, like the wrought branch, is gradually declining. The Drawer and Pantaloon branch is considerably worse ; some of the houses delivering out their materials with a sparing hand. Shirts are now made upon the rotary frames, propelled by steam, of which there are 24 in Leicester, and 84 in Loughborough, and some few at Hinckley. The Silk Glove Trade is still brisk, and hands are as scarce as ever, and likely to continue so. there is a slight movement in the Silk Knotted Hose trade for low priced stockings, where more than a third of the courses are taken out. The Plain Silk Hose branch is lamenta bly bad. The Fancy Bobbin Net trade is not amended. We hear on all hands of machines stopping, and appre hensions from the workmen of more stopping. This ma nufacture, from the number of extra guide bars used, and the complication of threads, is found to be so prejudicial to the eye, that many young workmen are apprehensive of losing their sight, and scarcely regret the loss of their employment. The plain and plain quilling branch has not felt the depression to anything like the extent of the fancy trade ; this is attributed to these nets being made traversed. Some attention is now being made to making fancy figured nets traversed, which will no doubt renovate this important manufacture. We have received some information from Vienna. It appears that the commercial treaty between England and Austria has paralised the speculations in ma chinery. The Austrians are in possession of both warp and bobbin net machines upon several principles going by steam power ; but such are the impediments that the same workmen who could make 300 racks weekly in Nottingham, cannot make more than 200 from the same machine in Vienna. The German workmen, though diligent and ingenious, are very slow, and cannot be got to exert themselves. The warp lap and press branch is to a certain extent stagnant; still there are considerable hopes of a revival. The blonde fancy trade is ►ery good, and is likely to con tinue so from the elegant articles made. The silk blonde branch is gradually reviving, but very slowly. The tatting and cotton branches have met with a depression, but not to a serious extent.—Nottingham Journal. WAKEFIELD WOOL MARKET, MAY 16. —We con tinue to have a dull sale for low deep combing Wools this week, but have experienced a little more inquiry for the finer qualities; prices steady without any change. Short Wools are ready of sale, and prices in them very firm. LLOYD'S SHIPPING. NOTICE TO MARINERS. Admiralty, May 21, 1845. I am commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit to you herewith, for the informa tion of the Committee for managing the affairs of Lloyd's, Copy of a translation of a dispatch received from the Danish Government, reporting that three Green Buoys have been laid down in the channel of the Grounds. (Signed) Wm. Dobson, Secretary of Lloyd's. Notice is hereby given, that the buoy over the middle most neck of the Middle Ground, the colour of which has hitherto been half black and half white, will now be painted green, like that which lies over the wreck of the ship of war Infodstretten ; and, furthermore, that as soon as the sea marks shall be laid out in these parts this spring, three additional green buoys, similar to the one above-mentioned, will be laid dow, viz.:— One buoy off the wreck of a stykpram, in the Hollwn derdyb, in 41 fathoms water ; one buoy off the wrecks of two merchant vessels in the Skudelobon, in three fathoms water ; one buoy off the wreck of the Style pram Haien, outside the Stubbensand, in 5} fathoms water. T. L. CORRY. I‘llt. ROBERTS, LATE LESSEE OF THE STRAND , THEATRE.—We understand that this gentleman sailed last week for New York, and that it is his intention to take a professional tour through the States before he returns to England. We augur favourably of his success, for cur transatlantic brethren are not only excellent patrons, but excellent judges of actors, and they will, no doubt, appreciate the refined manners and the joyous abandon of our friend Roberts in light comedy parts. We understand that he takes out with him Don Cesar de Bazan, in which we have no doubt ha will make a hit. Mr. Roberts is not only an excellent actor, but a good singer and a dancer—witness his Lord Allcash in Fra Diavolo, and his Polka. The Polkamania is now over, but we must confess that of all the Polkas, that Glanced by Roberts and Mrs. Montgomery pleased us the best, and the public were of our opinion, if we may judge from the fact of its having been repeated upwards of 150 times. We wish him every success during his transatlantic trip, although we should certainly have been better pleased if we could have kept him amongst us, for dramatic talent is now-a-days so scarce that we cannot afford to spare any of it. Lord Lincoln s Inclosure Bill, which stands for second reading to-night, is one of the most important measures of the session. Agricultural improvement has been most seriously retarded, from the fruitless opposition which has been given to Lord Worsley's Bill on the same subject in the last two sessions. We say fruitless, because the House of Commons has twice ap proved of it by large majorities, and the Committee appointed at the close of last session reported all but unanimously in favour of its leading principles. As to the clamour which it has excited in some quarters on behalf of the poor, nothing is more certain than that Lord Worsley's Bill could never have been read by those who have thus spoken of it. If there is one feature in it more marked than another, it is that it pro. tects and provides for the poor, and those having small interests, to a degree quite impracticable and unknown under the present system ; and as to its encouraging im provident inclosures, to the injury of the public at large, it might more properly be entitled a Bill "to prevent such inclosures." It is useless to reply to arguments and declamation which have no sort of foundation in fact. Let the objectionable principle or pro vision in the measure be pointed out, and then discussed, as it will now be, If any, in Committee, and that will be time enough to reply to the objections. A correspondent strongly objects to the alterations made in this Bill from that of Lord Worsley, and In much that he urges we fully concur, but this is mere detail which may be dealt with in Committee. In rendering the Bill less efli. cleat, it may be less objectionable to those who wish to throw ob stacles in the way of all further inclosure ; but so senseless a course we are satisfied will not have the support of Parliament, and we expect to find the details efficiently corrected by the full experience and inquiry which the subject has received in the House of Com bpayruagr. o a n ph F h ri u day be l e . n t, g fr o o in in g a th G e la r s o g u o n w d p o a f pe th r, e s p ta r t e i s n s g , and w as Silt ROBERT PEEL.—ESTATE OF CLOSEDURN.—A This statement we un derstand to be incorrect, Peel had purchased the estate of Closeburn, in Dumfriesshire, belonging to Sir Charl e s Stuarttu Monteath, for the,sutn of 290,0004 authorised to give it this anewewhSaiur, eR copiedbeenb rt THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 23, IMS. RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) Group ER. DUNDEE AND PERTH (NORTH) LINES. The Committee on these railways resumed this morning at the usual hour ; the Right Hon. F. Baring, chairman. The Hon. F. Ponsonby said, that a meeting had taken place since the Committee separated yesterday upon the subject of the terminus, as suggested by the Right Hon. Chairman, with a view to make some arrangement between them. Hitherto all negotia tions had proved abortive, and even that commenced this morning had concluded without a settlement, nevertheless hopes were en tertained that an amicable issue would yet be attained. Under this anticipation, therefore, he should, on the part of the promoters of the Dundee and Perth line, abstain from touching on the ques. tion of terminus and the South Inch. The CHAIRMAN suggested that both parties should refrain from alluding to the subject of terminus altogether. - This proposition being acceded to, the evidence of witnesses was continued. John Miller, cross.examined by Mr. FORSYTH—The line he had proposed between Dundee and Perth would proceed parallel to the turnpike.road for several miles, more than a milo and a half of which would be within ten feet of it. No prevision had been made for separating the railway from the road, but in their Bill they had suggested its being left to the direction of the Sheriff. The height of the bridge on the Tay above the ordi nary high water mark would be 7 feet 2 inches. Was aware that a communication had been made by the Admiralty to Lord Kin. 'laird, but was not in possession of its details. (The Learned Counsel here read a letter from the Secretary to the Admiralty, dated May 19, 1845, in which the opinion of that Board was decidedly expressed against the erection of any bridge over the Tay, inasmuch as it would entail con siderable mischief on the navigation of that river, but in the Event of its being found absolutely indispensable, they would concede to it on the condition that it should be constructed at right angles to the river, at an elevation of sixteen feet above the ordi. nary high water mark, and that a swing bridge should be thrown across similar to that to be erected over the Tamar at Torpoint, on the South Devon line, having an opening of fifty feet to allow of the passage of vessels. With those requirements their Bill did not comply, inasmuch as the letter was of so recent a date, but their course could now be easily shaped so as to act upon them. The length of embankment through the Tay would be in the first case five furlongs, in the second a quarter of a mile, and in the third about a quarter of a mile also. The embankment would require 30,000 cubic yards of earth-work per mile, varying in width from twelve to seventeen feet, at a cost of one shilling per cubic yard, and wanting 12,000 yards of pitch-work. Cross-examined by Mr. Common, 2. C., on behalf of the Scottish Midland Company—Had not as yet prepared a detailed estimate of the cost of the undertaking; but would have no objection to fur nish the Committee with the various heads and items of the ex penses, nor with a rough sketch of the bridge he proposed to throw over the Tay, in accordance with the requirement of the Admiralty. Cross-examined by Mr. Sergeant WILANGRAM for the trustees of the Perth harbour—The chief traffic on the river Tay was concentrated at the Penitentiary below the South Inch. He did not think that there would be any difficulty experienced in the construction of their line near Sleepless Island. George Lorimer, examined by the Hon. Mr. PONSONBY—Is one of the contractors of the Dundee and Perth Railway. Has exa mined the estimates and items of the line in detail, and considers them correct. Cross-examined by Mr. FORSYTH—The amount of cubic yards of embankment on the entire line will be 600,0001. ; estimates the cost of the masonry at 12,7001., and the laying down of the rails without sleepers, or anything except bare labour, at 11,0001. The sum total necessary for that proportion of the line which he had estimated was 80,0001. (This line of cross-examination being objected to by Mr. An drews, the Committee ruled that either the course should be allowed, or the evidence of the witness altogether struck out. The latter alternative being preferred by the promoters of the Bill, the evidence was expunged.) James Leslie, examined by Mr. ANDREWS-48 a civil engineer, and being instructed by:the trustees of the Dundee Harbour to sur vey the proposed course of the Dundee and Perth Railway, and see whether their harbour would be injured by the embankments to be constructed on its margin, was of opinion, that so far from being de trimental, it would be of the greatest advantage to the harbour. In 1842 the trustees of the harbour contemplated the formation of similar embankments, anticipating the most beneficial results, but had subsequently abandoned the measure, solely from pecuniary motives. Cross-examined by Mr. FORSYTH—The time it would take to pass from the terminus of the Dundee and Perth to that of the Dundee and Arbroath was about four minutes. In January last had made a report to the trustees of the Dundee harbour, in which he said that' Dock-street, being only eighty feet wide, should not remain both a quay and a street, and that it would be preferable that a line should pass, if possible, in any other direction than along Dock-street. Bad also reported that very serious injuries had been inflicted on the harbour by the embankments already constructed. Does not think the amenity of the houses would be injured by the line passing immediately by thern. Andrew Barless examined by Mr. ANDREWS —IS a land.valuer of 20 years' experience, and having valued the whole of the line, had made an estimate of 23,9081. 4s. 9d. Cross-examined by Mr. FORSYTH—That is a high estimate; has taken 186,205 acres. This having closed the evidence of the promoters, Mr. FORSYTH, on the part of the conservators of the river Tay, commenced his rebutting case, by calling David Stephenson, who deposed to the issuing of the original prospectus of the Dundee and Perth Railway in 1844, in which a bridge was proposed to be thrown over the Tay at a place called Macdrum, about seven miles frem Perth. That scheme had been abandoned, when it was proposed to erect it at the South Inch, which latter project had also been given up, and a third, according to the suggestion of the Board of Admiralty, finally adopted. He considered from what he could gather of the pro_ position that it would prove inconvenient to the traffic on that line. The direct examination of this witness being concluded, and the Speaker announced at prayers, the Committee adjourned. . Group E. THE NORTHUMBERLAND ATMOSPHERIC LINE. The Committee proceeded this morning to hear evidence in favour of the opponents of this line. Mr. Scott Russell's cross-esamination vas resumed for the pur pose of showing that his calculations were falsified by certain facts, but his evidence remained generally unshaken. Mr. Locke was examined by Mr. HILDTARD—The tendency of his evidence was to prove that the atmospheric principle would not succeed on a long line. The promoters of the system seemed themselves not to have much confidence in It, as they never tried it for any distance. It was only in such a case as that at Dalke) , that it could work well. Mr. Harrison was next examined by Mr. HILDTARD for the purpose of showing that the traffic of Northumberland could not be worked by the atmospheric principle. Mr. ALEXANDER objected to the reception of such evidence. A short discussion then ensued, and after the room had been cleared for some time for the purpose of leaving the determination of the matter to the Committee, The CHAIRMAN said, that the Committee understood that when the traffic tables were put in by the Northumberland Company, the traffic was proved to be sufficient to support the line. The object of the opponents of the Northumberland line was to show that the atmospheric principle was not such as to enable them to convey that traffic, and on that account the Committee were of opinion that the evidence could be received. Mr. Harrisen's examination was then cont i nued—He stated that there was an average of 715 head of c a ttl e conveyed to New _ weekly, from the last week i n J anuary to the first week There was a market - d ay once a week in New castle,occurred every Tu es d ay, and the cattle should castle t y. whichT in j arrive the day before. He calculated that there would be 300 tons weight of cattle conveyed on that day, allowing 8 tons per truck; and there would be a traffic of 4,615 sheep, making 922 tons of sheep and cattle together. 99 tous of coal would be the average quantity carried daily, including the wei g ht of the waggons. The gross total would be 1 , 197 tons, conveyed on the day before the market-day. The passenger trains would b e 3 8 i n one day. The Locomotive Committee nCompany ot proposed to run 44 t ra i ns per day. The being able to p roceed with the evidence of the witness, in consequence of the absence of some diagrams neces sary fur its illustration, adjourned at four o'clock. Group F. LONDON, WORCESTER, AND SOUTH STAFFORDSHIRE RAILWAYS. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. William Matthews, i r onmaster at Staffordshire, examined by Mr. Sergeant KmLana—Was extensively engaged In coal collieries and pig iron, was also an extensive shareholder in canals. Felt the want of a railway communication, and had no doubt that the Great Western Company would be the best line for the importani districts of Staffordshire. The proposed Great We s ter n li ne wou ld open up some most important mining districts in South Staffordshire ; by that line the coalowners of S taffordshire would not only be able y would be a bl e a l so to sen d a to compete with the Leicester district, which i s an I mportant place west end of Lond on a t a mo- In witne ss ' s di s t r i ct t h ere Berate for ticdeoearlacbhci charge rngsgeuumatnpott quantity e , t () bn t th tel consumer.e were 15,370 tons of coals made up annually. Out of this 12,540 tons would go by the Oxford or Great Western line, and only 2,830 tons by the London and Birmingham line. The charges by the London and Birmingham line had been so high that it was but little used by the iron and coalmasters of Staffordshire, but the moment they saw the prospectus of the Great Western line they offered to carry coals at ld. per ton. . The witness was briefly cross-examined, after which Dr. Har. rington of Oxford was called, and the Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. Group I. LONDON AND YORK LINE. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. John Boys, manager for Messrs. Watson, the largest mer chants in Manchester—The proposed London and York line would afford great facilities for the transit of goods from Man chester to Norwich, and all the towns In the midland counties ; the traffic between Manchester and those towns was very extensive. Mr. John Boys, cross.examined—Did not include any town south of Huntingdon. To Mr. Cocaoarm—The London and York agents told witness what towns to select.—( Laughter.) The London and York line from Manchester to Norwich would oblige passengers to pass through three different companies. Mr. Samuel Jackson, of Boston, had been many years in busi ness in the manufacture of steel and iron. There was a good deal of goods sent from Sheffield to the east and north of Lincolnshire. The proposed London a nd Y or k line would facilitate that inter. course, and the exp ense o f carr i a ge would be materially lessened. Within the last few d a y s t h e f re i g ht of goods from Sheffield to Hull had been reduced to 9s. per ton. Cross-examined —The converting coal, a quantity of which was consumed in Sheffield, was brought from near Elseter. Mr. Ash, eorn.factor, at Wakefield, deposed that the greater part of the corn brought to that town came from Lincolnshire and Norfolk. Is of opinion that all the corn sent from Lincolnshire to Wakefield would be sent by the London and York line. A machine was then produced, by which a record was kept of all persons passing on the railroad between London and Birming ham, and proved that a similar return could be made on the pro posed line. Mr. Be c k e t D enison, M.P. for t h e W es t Riding of York shire, deposed a s t o t h e agreement en tered into between the pro. posed Company an d the F or dyke Corn. panies. and Witham Navigation Mr. DARBY, Member of the Committee, asked the witness some questions respecting the nature of the agreement, when he was interrupted by Mr. BARINQ WALL, another Member of the Committee, who said he objected to the witnesses being interrupted in this way while in the hands of counsel. Mr. DARBY said he conceived the evidence to be irregular, and would take the sense of the Committee as to whether sueh evidence should be given. Mr. PAQ ET said he would give up The room was th en cleared, and after an a b s ence of about twenty minutes the parties were admitted, an d The CHAIRMAN sa i d the Comm ittee had agreed not to admit irrelevant evid ence, th oug h they were very unwilling to interrupt counsel, or not to afford them any facilit y. B ut this important ease, and t herefore th e evi_ was a very the questions. dente should be a s di rect as poss ible. On those ground s the Committee would omit from their minutes whatever portion of evidence they had taken that had an individual applica. tion, and would only take that of a general character. Mr. Denison's: examination was then resumed.—He said the agreement in question between the London and York Company and the Forsdyke and Witham Navigation Companies was entered into with a view to the deduction of the tolls and the accommoda tion of the public. Copied of the agreement were then handed in. Witness continued to give evidence as to the facilities which the proposed line would give for the transit of coals, and bringing the Durham coal into competition with that of Yorkshire. The Committee adjourned at half-past four o'clock. Group N. WEST CORNWALL RAILWAY. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday, Mr. Rowe then went into detail respecting the estimates of Captain Moorsom, civil engineer, and of Mr. Whitley, a sur veyor, for the construction of the whole of the line, and to the evidence of Mr. Brunel, and concluded by contending that those estimates were deficient for its proper con struction with safety to the public and with economy ; and that the Committee could not report in favour of the proposition. He called won them to suspend their judgment until they had gone into the Cornwall and South Devon Bill. The CHAIRMAN, after consulting with the other Hon. MembeJs, said it might he as well to announce that the Committee would de fer their decision on the West Cornwall until they had heard the Cornwall. Mr. AUSTIN said a petition, bearing the seal of the Hayle Corn. pany, would be presented to the House lo.night, in the event of there being a House. It was then agreed that Mr. Austin should open the Cornwall to. alsprrow morning. Group V. NEWARK AND SHEFFIELD LINE. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) On the public being admitted, it was stated that the Committee had decided against receiving evidence on the Sheffield and Lin colnshire line. Mr. Fowler was then re-examined as regarded the actual plan laid down by the promoters of the Newark and Sheffield Railway. He thought the mode of junction with the Midland Railway at Chesterfield, as proposed by Mr. Gibbs, was very defective. Mr. Maclean, C.E , had surveyed the line laid down by the pro moters, and he was decidedly of opinion that the line selected by them was a very 'objectionable one. The curves and gradients were very objectionable. He had laid out another line, which was greatly preferable, and would save in distance at least one mile and 38 chains. By hisamended line the train on the Newark and Sheffield line would be seen from the Midland line at two miles distance. By the promoters' line it could only be seen at a distance of a quarter of a mile. His curves were better and his gradients less objectionable. His . amended line had met the approbation of the Duke of Devonshire's agent, Mr. Currie, as it passed the avenue of Hardwick Park by a tunnel, and could not, therefore, by any possibility, be seen from the mansion house or the grounds. His line would present less engineering difficulties than the other, it would give greater facility to the coal traffic, and would be less expensive than the other. Mr. Walker, civil engineer, had gone over the line of country which was to be the scene of this railway project, and he decidedly thought that Mr. Maclean's line was a better one. He thought there could be no question that it was superior, as it was a mile and a half shorter, and seventy.seven feet lower in the summit level. At four the Committee adjourned till to- morrow. Group L. GUILDFORD, CHICHESTER, AND PORTSMOUTH RAILWAY. The Committee on this group resumed the inquiry this morning on the Guildford and Portsmouth Railway. Mr. E. B. Dennison in the chair. After some evidence respecting the traffic to Fare. ham and Havant, which was precisely of the character of that given yesterday, some suspicion was thrown by the counsel for the promo:ers of the line on the several names to the petitions. Lord Arthur Lennox, one of the Members for Chichester, was called, and to the queries of Mr. Gurney, stated that as he took a great interest in the lines projected for connecting Chichester with London, he gave a decided preference to the Guildford extension line. He positively asserted that there was not the name of one single elector or burgess attached to the petition which had been presented from Chichester against the line of the South-Western Company. The population of Chiches ter was upwards of 9,000, and in his opinion it ought to be con sidered next to Portsmouth. To the cross-examination of Mr. RAWLINSON, his Lordship stated that the population on the proposed line was far superior to that on the atmospheric line. The gentlemen's seats were cer. tainly more numerous. There was Lord Egment's house, Good. wood, the Midhurst property, and several others immediately adjoining the proposed railway. To the cross-examination of Mr. WADDINGTON, Lord Arthur stated that he had approved of the Brighton Extension line; and To the re-examination of Mr. GURNEY, he stated that he had a belief that several of the noblemen and gentlemen who had signed the memorial to the Board of Trade were in favour of the Guild. ford Extension line. The CHAIRMAN here interrupted the Counsel by saying that, unless evidence of a similar kind were adduced, he could not put much weight on the Noble Lord's testimony on this point. Some difficulty occurred as to the date of the memorial, and the change of opinion which might have occurred since it was signed, Mr. Waddington ultimately read the letter of the Duke of Rich. mond, in which his Grace intimated that the memorial was expres. sive of the feeling of the greater number of the landowners against the proposed line. Mr. Edward Casher, a wine-merchant for the last 42 years at Portsmouth, and who was the mayor of the borough, stated that, in his opinion, the Guildford line was decidedly the best for the town. To the cross.examination of Mr. Sergeant TALFOURD, Mr. Casher stated that he had convened the meeting at Portsmouth in consequence of a requisition presented to him for that purpose. The meeting was numerous, and highly respectable, and there was a large majority in favour of the atmospheric line. The feeling of the town was opposed to the South-Western Company, and if the atmospheric line were as cheap, mare expeditious, and more safe, it would be the better one for Portsmouth. The inhabitants had formerly preferred the line by Horsham, and when the South- Western Company had at that time profferred a terminus at Forts mouth, it was refused. On further cross-examination, Mr. Casher stated that he did not think that there was either jealousy or rivalry between Southampton and Portsmouth. The trade, it was true, had been partly diverted to Southampton before the making of the Gosport branch, but much of it had come back. He did not think that the circumstance of both lines being in the hands of one company would lead, on their part, to any deviation of the traffic, nor was he aware that several of the Directors of the South. Western Company were proprietors of the Southampton Docks. To the cross-examination of Mr. RawrawsoN i Mr. Casher re plied that he did not think theproposed terminus of the atmospheric line would be more convenient than that proposed for the Chichester and Guldford line. There was certainly an excellent access to the best and most improving part of the town by the terminus of the atmospheric line, while the approach to the terminus of the other line was by a sufferance road, which was the property of the Crown, and might be stopped if the Government desired. He was of opinion that a rich company would be more likely to provide good accom. modation for the public than a poor one.. On being re-examined, Mr. Casher stated that the first project was for a line from Fareham, by Chichester to Portsmouth. The second project was the Brighton Extension line, and the third was the present line from Guildford. The proposed terminus of the atmospheric line would be more convenient for Portsea and Land port, and that of the other for Portsmouth and Southsea. The population of the Portsmouth district of the town was about ten thousand, and of Portsea double that number. One of the great objects in forming a railway was to make a navy communication with Chichester, Midhurst, and the rich country on that route, and that this Guildford line effected. Mr. James Warner, a proprietor and occupier of land near the Gosport branch of the South-Western Railway, stated that he knew the traffic to Chichester from Salisbury and all parts in the west. He occupied about 1,200 acres, and was largely engaged in the breeding and feeding of sheep ; and he believed that if the railway were extended westward to Chichester, and beyond, it would materially increase the facilities of bringing cattle from the west to be fattened, and then returned to the butcher in the west. He had experienced great inconvenience in sending cattle over the floating bridge at Gosport. He was engaged in the timber trade, and testified that there was a great deal of wood on the line of the projected railway, especially at Single ton. There were often great falls of wood there, but the inhabitants experienced such difficulty in getting the timber down to the water side that they could dispose of none but that of the very finest quality, and he thought the carriage by the projected line would be reduced by a third. The quantity of timber in Singleton Forest was very great, and it had been suffered to accumulate in consequence of the difficulty of getting it away. Botley was a place of considerable trade from its standing on an arm of the Southampton-road, and the inhabitants of that place bought very largely in corn at Chichester market. One of his neighbours bought, dur ing the year 1844, 1,273 quarters of wheat, and up to the present time during this year 890 half-quarters, making in less than 18 months a total of 2,163 half. quarters. This corn had been trans ported by coasting vessels, at the rate of 7s. Bd. a load of five quarters. By the proposed railway it would be conveyed at 6s. a load, thus saving Is. Bd. a load, besides avoiding the risk and delay, as it would be btought safely in about four hours. The butchers of Southampton were all in the habit of attending Chiches ter market, and occasionally Petersfield market. He knew the float ing bridge over the Itchin, and he believed that considerable in jury to the cattle was done by their being driven together in their progress to and upon the bridge ; but he saw no difficulty in carry ing cattle over by the bridge in vans. He had himself sent great numbers of cattle by railway to London, and had never had any injured. Mr. M`Cheane, an Irish provision merchant at Portsea, stated that there was a great importation of provisions from Waterford, Lime rick, and Cork. The Limerick provisions were always landed at Portsmouth, because the vessels from the former place were too large to get up to Chichester. He had a considerable trade with Chichester, Petworth, Guildford, and all that part of the country; and he thought that the business would be much increased if there was a railway communication with the north. Provisions were seat as far as Salisbury from both Portsmouth and Southampton. With Petersfield he had no intercourse whatever. There was a great trade in provisions throughout the whole of that country, and he thought that Guildford Railway would answer all the requirements of the neighbourhood, while the other decidedly would not meet the necessity of the case. Mr. Henry Clarke, a merchant at Fareham, confirmed the testi mony of the previous witnesses respecting the traffic. The only additional point in his evidence was that the carriage to Botley would be considerably less than had been stated by Mr. Warner. The price of the carriage would be only 4s. 4d., instead of 6s. a load for cern. The price was 2id. a ton per mile and the distance was 23 miles. The saving consequently would be 31. 4d. instead of only Is. Bd. a load. Mr. Henry Snooke, a merchant and miller at Bedampton, which is a mile to the west of Havant, on the line to Fareham, said that he was in the habit of attending most of the markets around, and he conceived that the Guildford and Chichester line would certainly afford the best accommodation to the district. Mr. Hitkin, who (armed about 1,000 acres about half way be tween Midhurst and Chichester, was next called into the box, but his evidence, which contained no fact, was by no means favourable to the promoters of the scheme, in consequence, as it afterwards appeared of the line passing through his farm, and that circum. stance he conceived was a disadvantage more than equivalent to any benefit he was likely to derive from the railway. The Committee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to.morrow. Group R. DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY. The Committee met to-day at the usual hour, Mr. Gibson Craig in the chair, and after agreeing to the remaining clauses of the Dublin and Drogheda Bill, instructed the Chairman to report it to the House. DUBLIN AND BELFAST JUNCTION RAILWAY. The evidence in favour of this line was then resumed. Dr. Bennett was examined respecting the traffic of ICells and its neighbourhood, which in agricultural produce he represented to be very great. The inhabitants were generally in favour of this line. No material poi n t was elieited in the cross-examination of this witness, beyond an answer to a question, which excited considerable merriment in the Committee—that the parish priest of Kells, the Rev. Mr. M'Av o y, h ad spoken publicly in favour of the line from Enniskillen to Dublin, through Kells, on the ground that he would be enabled to go up and see how the proceedings of ' , arils. mant were going on when the union was repealed. Ur. Russell, of Dundalk, examined—He was a distiller. The trade of Dundalk was considerable with America, the Baltic, Eng land, and Scotland. There was a great trade in agriculural pro duce between the interior of the country and Dundalk. Mr. Shillington, 01 Portadown, said the district through which the line was proposed to be taken was a very populous one. There was a very large weekly market at Tenderagee, near to which the railway approached. Banbridge was also on the line, and was an important seat of the linen trade, so also was Guildford, at which there was a large linen manufac. tory that did business to the amount of 80,000/. In a circle of about seven miles around Portadown, the annual value of the linen-trade, he thought, might be about ,000,000/. The quantity of grain annually sold in Portadown was 10,000 tons, wheat principally. Of pork there was sold 1,040 tons ; of butter, eggs, and beef there was sold 500 tons. The value of cattle and pigs sold was 60,0001. The quantity of yarn brought into Portadown and its neighbourhood to be wove was about 2,500 tons. There were about forty or fifty corn and flax mills around Portadown, principally along the line of railway. There were about eleven or twelve stages running from the town to the adjoining towns. Mr. BELLEW, M.P. for the county of Louth, said that the railway would be of the greatest benefit to the district, by connecting the interior with England and Scotland. He thought the coast line far superior to the interior lines proposed. Mr. Gorten, who resided between Dundalk and Newry, deposed that twelve public conveyances passed his door daily, and a vast number of posting and private carriages. It was generally believed that the railway would be of the greatest benefit to the district. Sir John M`Nielle, engineer of the line, was examined.—The line went through the busiest and most important district in the north of Ireland, opening up the whole interior to the different ports that were in regular communication with England and Scotland The remainder of the evidence, till the rising of the Committee. teas as to the general advantages of the line, which he stated at some length to be superior to any of the competing lines. It was arranged that the engineering evidence should be gone into to. morrow.—The Committee rose at four o'clock. Group 11. This Committee, consisting of Lord Barrington (Chairman), Mr Leader, Mr. Christie, Mr. Bannerman, and Mr. Bottleld, re-assem. bled at one o'clock today. LANCASTER AND CARLISLE RAILWAY. The Committee proceeded to pass the clauses. • • A clause to give compensation to the Lancaster Canal Com pany was proposed, but rejected by the Committee. After passing several clauses, the Committee adjourned to to morrow week. Group W. , . . WAKEFIELD, PONTEFRACT, AND GOOLE RAILWAY. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. William Bingley, of Etersley Lodge, in the West Riding of Yorkshire, was next examined.—He was well acquainted with the district between Penistone and Huddersfield. The price of lime now was 255. per ton, and he had no doubt that great quan tities of it would be used for agricultural purposes, if it could be conveniently procured. The present consumption would be greatly increased if a line of rail was formed from the Knottingley quarries. There were 50,000 acres of land in that district which required lime. The usual quantity of lime used for an acre of land was two and a half tons. The price of lime at the Knottingley quarries was 6s. per ton. He considered that the annual quantity of lime used for the district referred to would be immensely in creased, if this line were formed. By Mr. BOUYERIE—A great quantity of land had been lately inclosed in that district. It had been limed, and this had greatly increased the ♦alue of the land. Previously to its being limed, he had let the moors at Is. 6d. per acre for grouse shooting and sheep-walks, but since that he had let It for c2os. an acre. Mr. Henry Biggs, of Overton, Wakefield, was next examined— Was managing partner of the Flockton collieries. Occupied 1,000 acres of land as colliery beds. Turned his attention very much to the subject of the application of lime to agricultural pur poses. Had lately written a paper on the subject to the Geological Society. If this line were formed he had no doubt but immense quantities of lime would be applied to the land along all that line of country. The average price of coal, at the pit's mouth, was 6s. 9d. per ton. This included the royalty of Bd. per ton. Mr. John Walker, surveyor and mining engineer, had been in prac. tice for twenty-five years. Was well acquainted with the coal district of Wakefield. There were ninety-one colleries there within a circle of six miles. The produce of these mines was sent to all the ports on the eastern coast. Immense quantities of coal from this district were also sent from Hull to America, and other places abroad ; and he had no doubt if greater facilities were afforded for its transit to the coast, that this exporta tion would be increased to an incalculable extent. Upwards of 5,000 tons were at present daily raised from the beds in and about Wakefield. Thought that greater regularity would take place in the transmission of coal by railway than by canal. Mr. Richard Pope, 8, Lower Thames-street, City, was joinf owner, with his brother, of an extensive colliery near Wakefiel, Shipped large quantities of the produce of this mine to London and the ports on the eastern coast. This coal was known in London as the " Cliff Wall's-end Coal." Made a railway of two miles, with tunnel of 260 yards. Before the making of this railway raised an nually from 35,000 to 40,000 tons, but since that the quantity raised was much greater. The strike that had taken place in the Newcastle collieries was the means of introducing to a very great extent the coals of the Wakefield district, but they were known in the London market before that. He had thirty-two vessels employed in the shipment of this coal, and he was very frequently unable to find as many vessels as he re quired. These vessels brought back nothing, as the delay which would take place in unloading the returned cargoes would throw the colliers idle. This inconvenience would not take place if this railway were carried out. The Hon. Mr. Lascelles deposed to the favourable feeling which existed in Wakefield towards this railway. He knew many of those who signed the petition which had been just presented in its favour, and they were very respectable people. By Mr. HARDY—Mr. Smith's house was of that class of houses generally occupied by country gentlemen. Did not know whether the line came within half a mile of it or not. Lord Pollington, BI.P. for Pontefract, stated that the feeling of the inhabitants of Pontefract was entirely in favour of this line. Mr. Monckton Milnes, M.P., Pontefract, deposed to the bene fits which the railway would confer on the malting trade of Ponte fract and the trade of Knottingley. Mr. George Russell, butcher and cattle-dealer—Lived at Kel lington, within 16 miles of Wakefield. Purchased on an average 1,000 sheep in the year, and 100 fat beasts, which he sent to the Wakefield market. Found that beasts were sent from Ham burgh to Wakefield in less time than he could bring them from Goole. (In reply to a question from Mr. Wilkins, this witness caused great laughter by saying that these Germam beasts were called " Sir Roberts.") These " Sir Roberts " ar rived in better condition from Hamburgh than his beasts from Goole. If this line were laid done the facilities which it would afford would enable him to compete better with the " Sir Roberts._"7(Laughter.) Mr. John Patty, butcher and cattle dealer, gave similar evidence as the last witness to the advantages which would result by this railway in affording greater facilities for conveying cattle. Mr. James Hymer, miller, near Snake, deposed to the great disad. vantages which those in his line of business were at present labouring under for want of increased accommodation for conveyance. Mr. John Norwood, corn-factor, gave similar evidence. Ralph Creyke, Esq., lived near Goole. Was proprietor of two thousand acres of land. This line of railway would, he consi. dered, tend very much to open up the resources of the country, and was in his opinion the most eligible line that could be laid down for that purpose. It received the most unanimous support from the inhabitants of the district, and a petition was adopted by the inhabitants of Goole in its favour without a dis sentient voice. He had no doubt but every department of trade would be benefited by it. Mr. W. Wells, agent to Lord Beverley—Occupied 450 acres of land, and had no doubt but the proposed line would ma terially benefit his interests by the increased facilities which it would give for the conveyance of agricultural produce. He also thought the public would greatly benefit by the in creased stimulus it would give to trade. Mr. M. %Vedall gave similar evidence, and it being now four o'clock the Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock to.morrow. Group DD. GLASGOW, DUMFRIES, AND CARLISLE RAILWAY. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. Pine, flax manufacturer at Aberdeen, said his goods were principally sent to Manchester and London, and also to other places, and he considered the Hawick line would be the most convenient for the transmission of his manufactures. _ _ Sir Thomas Phillips called Mr. Reeves, of the Post-office at elasgow.—He was of opinion that so far as post-office arrangements were concerned, two lines would afford greater facilities than one, especially as regarded the Hawick line. The proposed lines passed through highly populous districts, and were important on that account. Certainty in the conveyance of the mails was very essential, and, in fact, preferable to an increased speed without security in point of time. The districts in the neigh. bourhood of the Hawick line possess a considerably larger cor respondence than the towns lying on the Caledonian line. For the north of Scotland the nearest route from Edin burgh would be by way of Fife. He considered the mere shortening of the line from Dumfries to Edinburgh was not of so great importance as the making of the Hawick line. The CHAIRMAN, at the conclusion of the examination of this witness, stated that it was the intention of the Committee to give their decision as to the merits of the competing companies before they entered on the consideration of the Clydesdale Junction Rail. way. Mr. Gibbons, cattle salesman at Liverpool, was then called, and said he had dealt extensively in cattle for several years past. The principal trade was obtained from Inverness and its neighbourhood, and the cattle were disposed of in Cumberland, Lancashire, and the northern parts of England. Considerable numbers were sent from Liverpool to London. The cattle brought into Liverpool travel to Carlisle, for the most part, on foot, and are conveyed from thence to Liverpool by railway. Mr. Miller was called to clear up a point on which the Committee had some doubt. He said, that at a meeting in the Merchants' Hall, at Edinburgh, it had been publicly stated that it was not intended to carry the line beyond Hawick, and it was always dis tinctly understood that it would terminate at that place ; but subse quently it had been determined to continue the railway on to Carlisle, The only reason that had induced the Edinburgh people to give their sanction to the Caledonian scheme, was the promise which had been held out to them of a plentiful supply of water. Mr. M'Adam, farmer, in Kirkcudbright said, that the average number of cattle transmitted from the district of which he was cog nizant was about 19,000 annually, the value of which might be esti mated at 200,0001. He considered that from the advantages which the Dumfries Railway would offer, he could afford to pay Id, per head per mile extra for the transmission of the cattle to Edinburgh. The Dumfries line was far preferable to the Caledonian. He was distinctly of opinion that the fat and half-fatted cattle would go by railway, but the lean animals he thought would be driven in order to afford facilities for feeding. The expense of the present transit of cattle from Dumfries into Norfolk averaged from 20s. to 30s. per head, and he had no doubt that to dealers would not object to make a sacrifice of a penny per head per mile extra for the convenience of having them con veyed by railway, as by that means of transmission the beasts would arrive in a better condition at their destined market, and realise a larger profit, The examination of the witnesses generally today was not of he slightest public importance. At the close of the depositions of the last-mentioned witness the Committee adjourned till half-past eleven to-morrow. Group B. The Committee on assembling proceeded with the LEEDS AND THIRSK LINE. Dlr. Grainger, the engineer, cross-examined by Mr. AUSTIN, Q.C.— Witness has gone over the , country to form estimates of the expense. Declines to give in a detailed estimate. Can do so by copying it from his book. That would show cuttings, embank ment, tunnels, and most of the slopes, and the prices. Mr. AUSTIN submitted to the Committee that it would save con. siderable time if a detailed statement was furnished, instead of having to extract the same result by a long series of questions. The engineer objected, as if it got into the hands of a con tractor, it would enable him to estimate according to the en gineer's estimate. The CGmutrrEE thought they could not order any written state. meet, as it was objected to on the other side. _ Cross-examination resumed—The cuttings for two miles are on a slope. Had obtained the level by taking the depth of the centre line. Has compared the country with the section. Was to have consulted two contractors, but no contract has been concluded. Has surveyed the country north and south from Leeds to North allerten, and Poole and Weatherby west and east, By Mr. WHITEHURST, Queen's Counsel—Has examined the soil in Bramholt, of which the principal part is sandstone. It is not a solid bed, but consists of large blocks. Has examined the springs at Bramholt, of which there are three or four. Two other gentle men have examined that part of the line, Mr. Jerdein, and Mr. Sopworth. Has made five borings. The second boring is about half a mile from the first, and the others about 500 or 600 yards apart. One borehole is opposite Bramholt-hall. When that bore hole was making one or two wells became dry. At this stage, Mr. OvERENo, for the promoters, proposed certain terms to Mr: Whitehurst ; but that gentleman stated that, appear ing as lie did by order of the Lord Chancellor to protect the estate of a lunatic, and having no power to take any sum of money, he only sought to be placed in as good a situation as before. Examination resumed—The tunnel commences near the first borehole, and there is a cutting of 78 feet 10 inches, about 5-Bths of a mile. The cuttings at the other boreholes are 130, 216, 270, and 72 feet respectively. There are three or fuur springs in the northern extremity of the tunnel. The tunnel would probably affect to some extent all the springs in the nelghbourhocd. Is not aware of any proposal having been made to the Leeds Water works Company for the conveyance of water to Leeds. The width of the four permanent shafts in the tunnel will be 30 feet in diameter. Is not aware of any means of preventing the drainage of the springs by the oonstruction of the tunnel. It would be practicable to put a pump at the end of the tunnel and force the water up to the highest level of the township. It is impossible to tell what effects will arise to the springs until actually tried. . By Mr. Sergeant BELLasts—The branch connecting the r with the Leeds and Bradford line quite the m aine line at a di': tance of .II miles from Leeds. That branch run e chiefly t hrou r Lord Cardigan's property. The gradient is partly lin 33, in I , ' A n 102, and partly level. It is a descending level to the Bradtteer': line. The gradient lin 33 continues for one mile and a eni ir ,. o and will be worked by an assistant engine. Another branch been abandoned, which was to run through Lord Cardigano,l)7o petty. The main line also runs through Lord Cardigan's PrwPoed, for two miles and half. Part of that property consists of but t not ornamental. The cost of the main line from the Pa i .. ,", whence branches the Leeds and Bradford line, and the .. ,i station, about four miles and three.quarters, 120,000/. The reason for making an entire line toss i'7,,, parallel with the Leeds and Bradford line, was the differenolLsre" leve:s. The excavations and embankment on the main line 4,353,605 cubical yards, • all ° Mr. Servant BELLASIS then inquired the price per cubic of embankments at certain spots. • n 0 41 Mr. OYEREND objected that an answer to such a questio will be !n u t, it compromise the interests of the Company assts wer4( . j The Committee decided that the question m i g ht be The witness thee said the cuttirg would be Is. 2d. and . pe d. The w Wind ;"- r yar d i irN le itness was then most minutely exa mined er elk of the individual works to be executed on th e line, an tive e. HALL, on stimated prices. , I ' l4 Mrthe part of the Leeds Waterworks Core Pan i r j ue . that he was quite satisfied with the protective clauses t o reeled by th prooters. t o °ll' Mr. James Fenton, civil engineer, was o f opinion Oa " go ted , laid down by Mr. Grainger is the best tha t has been and was perfectly sotisfied with the estimates. .130 4 Er-. Mr. C. Vignolles, civil engineer, examined by „ e ster Has been over the Leeds and Thirsk line, and over tbe'l,l.ooll grated to the east, and considers Mr. Grainger's as a link of communication with the north, the interest ef i r ord b aler the western districts of the West Riding. It w ill ~,,r o ch e ; accommodation to Knaresborough than the Pill - n h Tho le Ripon is on the line, which goes right up to Thirsk. their carefully over the estimates, and is quite satisfi ed . ° , f e d no la ° clency. The cross-examination of this witness elic it ed of importance. tea l e.° :, Mr. J. Evans said be had been a railway contractor for g o ota a . nd had been engaged on the Manchester and Lee" : 0 0( 0 lines to a considerable extent. Has examined the estbna . sod iisa line, and would be happy to take contracts at the Price.' _,,,iih signed a bond to that effect. , ..if salds 6 '' to the be 526,041 it:ekrilmeflonr:...bJ.tßherawy,oarklsoatahraisilpwraicyeeso.ntractor, was sitni ab '' OW the estimates of Mr. Grainger, and had signed a the 3111. C c :sine:loi t f t e e no e pues rn rnse..bo e cc- t raeo:cedml a cco t ropinswri t idm w aoiitnu e inhtc l ggt v ehetl e yehtw.s o :tii ' o f the W yCothopeemr,ailnanlitesutrovebyeo6r4,9st4a9tied., atthwe value of bole, t hel' i n a d chl t" d i4ba lii ii at twelve o'clock. the Leeds station, 104,000/. The Committee at this point adjourned until day), 6. oft risßS. ~., SELECT COMMITTEE ON STANDAII:to inquire into rej v a r i t ' o h i i i s s folloWine .. g Ortle " r p e a p rT o t ih r e t as e t d ati htl allowed standingei d e H t e to the . d ill to them from th cisions with respect to the Bills hereafter pain ' rn. AILWAIrei.d the THE GOOLE AND DONCASTER Il e d witb, - VW '. RA ID THE DISS, BECCLES, AND YARg A similar report will be made in favour of thisAcTiaN• din g THE SHREWSBURY AND GRAN D J 0 the l ien The Committee will report, that in this case orders ought not to be dispensed with." bot h The same report will be made with respect W 0. ,t THE HARWICH RA1L0.9,,,e0911. id. The Committee adjourned shortly 1 ........ ) .. / ENT. IMPERIAL PA RLIAN . HOUSE OF LORDS , 1 " 65 ore' Their Lirdships met at Four o'clock. i. w ere x 0 „,,,,, n ooto, ~,hoP Petitions against the grant to i t "V" AreDu i " G ioty sented by the Earl of Harewood, thel3ishop of Canterbury, the Bishop of Cashel, th ee ton , tester, Lord Abinrer, and Lord Ashbutoenro. us pett Earl FITZWILLIAM presented flume. from places in Wales against intemperioino, 0 t he THE PUBLIC MUSEUNIS.„-"6ogge On the motion of the Duke of B. e , t i t ion Public Museums Bill was read a second titn te d s Pe. r , is The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presen t' ckesill from the Presbyterians of Lancashire p re y O s GI of s • ii favour of the grant to Maynooth. lion fP' Lord BROUGHAM presented a pett vr y 0 , 0 0 effect from the corporation of the InY s no t oloY ht er.) mongers.—(Laughter.) That body was not lsog,. the respectable but most hospitable.—(u' they and t They had large estates in Ireland, an best landlords in that country. S BILL' Lion CHARITABLE 'TRUST cor pors . 0 of Petitions were presented from the d co mPe ni ftbe Cooks and several other of the incorporate . tio p o the oper. 13 London, praying for exemption from sii° ll . e i i Charitable Trusts Bill. bt that 13 sr ii The Earl of WINCHILSEA thong did n ot b e f olo not do justice to his own feeling's if he b'ela t he 00 1 r ill w 1 gbt a testlin • oterr tli',eto,t_aldii.n. testimony to the excellent manne ahe t hou frO of these companies were managed, an ..,...,„ t heto no evil could possibly arise from e xemlatwa , tio o U se- , , a A the operation of this Bill. i b e d to ask - to The Duke of CLEVELAND "'''' • reap o 0 with re • t ie of the Noble Lord on the Woolsack, , ve_ych iosot gilor Bill. It was not enerally understooa oi, include 000 g and h; 11 were to be ,., ,h 0 were to be exempt, w..c-- - ' _„bke the power of this Bill. The several y , e , 0 _ were L. , , d in re, of the country, for instance, smithystill jor be exempt? There was Westminster, estbo, Christ's Hospital, which was the most w vo id 0 01 1 1 ment in the whole countryand the first ° t his P ° pfP , Ever since the 22d or 23d of George -'-:',, r , and a b e tte r had been governed by a preiident, treas l , l "; e " been 'Oa managers of its own. No property could " i s it ," felt l ' i to Is l manaed than theirs, and the nature boo ley this $ c jealousy at being • interfered with —wa s .. f .tili affected by the Bill ? i gas per LORD CIIANCELLOB- 4 wll , question when I introduce the Bill. 0 4 MAYNOOTII. 0 0 T. ,. Do , h; a ll 3 The Marquis of LANSDOWNE and ,--- 00. - fr Ilsl ll Pi' presented petitions against the grant to from the latter Noble Lord one in favour of it , ceston. nßbedilic.:ovvearediigWibinecithr ( i nhogwr se i tffvr ebrn: The M 'of Mar CLANRICARDE too.doittisboi nity ma m t o to o r t , ed, and he hohadwams andeappyinclittoir!:_aytheh,Pfhtli; of statingC, CONDEMNED SERINIONI,. the oppall; execution.s ion ofthe I pt that since the subject of . 5 0 0 ging public to be present at the condemned s ro pe t be the matter, wgadeetirrrsteehtceoteensbdateirely withou.t blso e 1 , 1 1 he l rbo ti shouldanindividual, at th m to er u w b a li s c t t h o e sceuestHomo,aeorathteh ua..4beriv3_lloot, e ge 0 m il erely followed the Plan of their predecessoc`a9;o of "' et of mt_f a e g ewa a nt i ,r n ti s hew t oh hu a gomhe ß wnt i ho l , highly • A g pAit g. sly improper. parish h of St. eto tt INCLOSURE OF NOTTINGII'„;fIe, 0052,-,,b00' every esien obtain t ; i s m t o a sep observ e wi t .r h h teu t t l b b is th e o p r vir s I a ir; et : e t e:oZ r , g w i o e . Lord BROUGHAM presented a Pet.'"o-(Notrf:l7 the, and respectably signed by the burgesse,s d e Witil l oi, focrofommm Parliament ao Bi ll for td f a o iwrn r yruoi i iuo n clis c edhu l i ovrbseeetihnvmagnetoirgcthecoirtosvnt Exibi a nue l . v roi ofreitit ii go v oa e ° roe " ), t f ln 0 0 r e oi : r n bo r c i i g y h , ts. y pensa t same NOBLE LOAD begged atit i°° but of equal from the Gene ia9 r The to pre s ; e o e ither ot ioO , NEWFOTJNDLA)III at a TIRO ° j u o ahr t lii isAotdfifsetrshtoeiommusabesi who Assembly ioatfshsis l e o reh o we l h c ifi e riui: l oa r ri i il o rs, fi bd e . r i,ps i o n i s k o w l e: ss o: on behalf of the Assembly, by the SP e t e ; of 1' & jog too long to read, he would state the he , soc iea, ee to s petitioners stated that theirs was the 03°5(thrsotth'istbei of the British empire. They had seen."' ba gs, sv bd ° the packets pass on to Halifax with their T hey _ 4 OO , had five hundred miles of sea to return. 0,003,1:01; I, le vs d e tiliu fr i d harbour which was fit to receive the w A. ° 50 0 l ichA ; vc b : l e t re alway s :s e a m It was only 1,800 miles from hence to IsTewforlf,ter week, uld go oefo,ver people appeared to think that they silo is sy .0 , - ni th hei r ° fre g point in order to reach the nearest. with 0 t pondenee. Sometimes they were 2 ' f erl bich sv ils ot 91/ it serioui att , ntion to. in summer, and a month in winter, i'v , rb ie w .0 t he serious evil to a mercantile comnaunitP h ips g t he ject which he ho d pe to see their Lora . of I d at least, in arrear eielight i n 0 1 , lain a b eeklery odd that the te oe,,,they covrPo li en . e lf Lord STANLEY said he could not nec i . ee t 10 4 manner in which his Noble and Le ttr t b e sahl ert tr io brought this subject forward, or tha t d ba ve i b a e ifea ' hel l was not an important one; but it w (51 ( 1 1 F r iel: os od t' . convenient had his Noble and Learne s b e ite , have turned his attention to it. be t notice of his intention to introduce it, 5 a itha " 1 w ill -- Seble Lord BROUGHAM—VireII, then , '- petition, and give you notice. Lord STANLEY did not wish to e- eh.' e t fr et e ve t y afrel bi(sDstlgi,b; and Learned Friend to make another sPeetrecewith t t ter.) His Noble and Learned Friend T si s j e red ae t iell, there were various questions to be _ itte ots. `;., for m spect to the various post .office arrange Jobe's 4 i h o e t it also recollect that the harbour of St. b ie, w t . . ccessi es, at considerable portion of the year Ina _, t he Y ot io o , o harbour of Halifax was open throught.'",e t he 9,.aatv,.. was, therefore, more advantageous to ,„J asc7l'r tie Halifax. This was not a subject whiev : 0 "" % , 000' ~ attention of the Government, but it o'l s _ f te d, ~.0 j fio consideration, and it would not be neglected, fr_lrer fi ef Lord BROLTGIIAM said that his l'44bere n e t O Lord BROUGITAM said that his , rbcre atete rue rather premature in his pleasantry. es pleasantry less founded in fact. t,",,ontrY was 1 111 ..il the D ee Oleo pleasantry to be founded in fact. pre:' d i n /0%007 6 entertaining when it was not founuey. the fa T he o, was the case in the present instance, y r 'Ol-gbter.),, p ie ; Noble Nathe eet4l was neither lively nor ainusing.--("5 eod re por was neither fact nor joke Friendhis santry. Had his Noble e_ovs,itre;waorriLg'ool, which was attached to the petits r a te bor reP itie °°. •• deal of importance in that most - 1 a litt le .10 , in, yet his Noble Friend called it 0 1 4 Gn iy a.% te, vience. He would ask whether it .1.1r0v,5_,,5, 0010 r, ' We: , convenience for the people of St., John raovrfooth , Newfoundland to receive their leite r .. „,, 1 er I. o i tir, It was not very likely iv i'; c s i five „,i0 to from the mother country during tltei st'o-pinioilveharfoo the mail bags would be ear r ' c bt back ','"i" i f th the harbour, which would be factinahthat v°lll folii miles round by sea, and then be brought the resrP.ino. the petition was acted on. He thou, communication originally by aeration' 4311 ! i s op of fax would be a most difficult P.,, 4 . 0 1 ln 1 , fro T COD3`"C d Ole ,be the intervention of the sea. he what b 5 O a had been ver y } much confirmed by: iy bu t his 43 be " I viousnow cl his Noble Friend in reply. Pre . , O, oti I had seen only one side of the quesilot2,,_felt ve 0,. the , been made acquainted with bulb. !11e0,,ttee._its or inclined to refer this petition toi hulawo g ive D Lordships' House ; and be certain y Newfoundland on ce°oo; 0 „ 1 1, port to it. o va . 0 Pap ;n' TURKEY AND ," f ,„. orts t ter 1 l'u""-j hat 5 ccs of which he had given notice °n.n aft t _ ls om ~ Lord BE.AI.IMONT rose to move ,3 ' ,0 , last , ¢d t o' formation with respect to certai,evrn,o circul'... WI cently transpired in the east , t-, tn,tition v._:sstorev recently and that country had only very had occurred in Greece, since the re' been r.