The Sun. — London, England, 1850-05-08 00:00:00

ffourtt A4bition SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. IRISH FISHERIES BILL. Mr. CONOLLY (in continuation from our After noon Edition) proceeded to say, that no justifica- ' tion of the Honourable Member could do away with the unconstitutional principles which were con tained in this Bill. The Hon. Gentleman then went at some length through the several clauses of the Bill, and stated his objections severally to each of them, and con cluded by pointing out that the whole principle of the Bill was in entire opposition to the recommen dation of the Committee which had sat on this sub ject, over which the Hon. Gentleman himself presided, and he hoped that it would meet with the decided oppo sition of the House. Mr. SCULLY supported the amendment, because he thought that several clauses were calculated to injure a very large and important class in Ireland, be meant the holders of mills on streams, and he thought that the interests of this class would be very largely affected by the Bill of the Honourable Member for Youghal. The Bill as it now stood would have a very injurious effect upon existing interests, and he would advise the Honourable Member for 'roughen to withdraw it for the present, and t 3 bring • in an amended Bill in which all the objectionable clauses • might be omitted. • Lord NAA.S said, as his name appeared on the back of the Bill, he thought it right to state the grounds on which he supported it. The present law respecting fisheries in Ireland was so vague and contradictory that it was necessary some measure should be introduced to consolidate the law and to recon cile the contradictions which now unhappily existed. That was the object of the present Bill, and, if passed, he thought it would put an end to much litigation and clear away many difficulties. The leading prin ciple of the measure was to consolidate the old Acts, and the new clauses which had been introduced did not interfere with that principle; he trusted, therefore, that the House would consent to its being referred to a Select Committee of the House. Colonel DUNNE objected to some parts of the Bill, but supported the motion for sending it to a Select Committee. There were already seven Acts of Parlia ment on this subject, and as they had given rise to great ambiguity, the necessity of farther legislation, with the • view of consolidating the law, was apparent. Mr. NAPIER said the contradictions and ambiguity of the present law did not arise from the law itself, but from the way in which it was construed and ad . ministered, and he deprecated the practice of apply ing for Acts of Parliament to rectife mistakes which were not inherent to the law itself, but arose from its maladministration. A Bill wasintro-- • duced and passed in 1842, to clear up the doubts which previously existed, and further legislation, he thought, would have the effect of launching them again info a sea of difficulties. • • Mr. FAGAN said he should support the second reading if the Bill was afterwards to be referred to a Select Com mittee. It was evident that some legislation was necessary in order to protect farther the salmon fisheries of Ireland, but this Bill was a very cumbrous one, and would require considerable amendments before it could be of any benefit to the country. Unless something was im • mediately done to preserve Irish fisheries they would •• • dWindle away to nothing, and great numbers of the la bouring classes who were now engaged in that occupa tion, who deserved and ought to receive protection, would be thrown out of employment. Mr. GROGAN thought that some legislation was ne cessary to protect the millowners on the one hand and the proprietors of salmon fisheries on the other. He would support the second reading, but as he thought the Eiji would require considerable amendment, he suggested ' that the best mode of dealing with it was to refer it to a Select Committee. " Mr. S. CRAWFORD opposed the Bill, because it " 11 . , . proposed to give to a triumvirate of commissioners the most arbitrary powers which were ever conceded to any body. Mr. O'FLAHERTY supported the second reading on the understanding that the Bill would be referred to a Select Committee, which, if properly constituted, would no doubt send it back in proper dimensions, and obviate the objections of all parties to its provisions. Sir J. YOUNG opposed the Bill as an unwarrantable !interference with private rights. Mr. LAWLESS supported the Bill. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he felt the great impor • tance of legislating on the subject of Irish fisheries, and he had wanted to hear what the opinions of Hon. Mem bers were, but not one in the course of the debate had ventured to approve altogether of the present Bill. He gathered, however, from the discussion that all were agreed that some further legislation was necessary; therefore the real practical question was as to the best mode of effecting that object, whether by referring the Bill to a Sleet Committee, or by withdrawing it for the present, and introducing another which was more likely to meet with the approbation of Honourable Members. • He thought the latter course was the beet, and he would advise the Honourable Gentleman not to persevere with the Bill on the present occasion, for though some of its provisions were unobjectionable, it would not, on the whole, give general satisfaction. Mr. MAURICE O'CONNELL supported the Bill be cause many of its provisions would be extremely useful. Mr. ANSTEY briefly replied to the different speeches, and concluded by expressing his determination to per severe with the second reading. • The House then oivided, when there appeared— For the second reading ... 37 For the amendment 197 Majority --160 The Bill was consequently thrown out. EXTRAMURAL INTERMENTS BILL. Mr. LACY moved the second reading of this Bill, and in doing se said he proceeded on the principle that interments should nct be made the subject of private specula ion and profit. He proposed by the Bill that land should be purchased- at a distance of twenty-five or thirty miles from the metropolis, where facilities might be afforded for the conveyance of bodies by railway. Another provision of the Bill was, that it should be penal for two persons to be buried in one grave. The Hon. Gentleman, after alluding to the proposed ce metery at Erith, and stating the inconvenienc es con nected with that sight f or a burying ground, stated that he did nut think the Government measure practicable, but that the one he proposed would be produc tive of the best results. If the House allowed his Bill to be read a second time he had no objection to its being referred to a Select Committee. Mr. Alderman SIDNEY supported the second reading of the Bill. The Bill of the Government was so faulty that he was fearful unless the present Bill and the one introduced by the Government were both re ferred to a Select Committee there would be no effectual legislation on the subject during the present session. Mr. LABOUCLIERE opposed the second reading of the Bill. The Bill involved a principle that was so ob jectionable that he felt convinced the House would not sanction it; he alluded to the fact that the Bill empow ered railway companies, under the direction of the Rail way Commissioners, to conduct ;the business that had hitherto been conducted by cemetery companies. He belived that no railway company would be found , who would consent to perform such inconsistent duties. The Right Ilea. Gentlemen concluded by moving that the Bill be read a second time that day six months. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Home divided, when there appeared— For the second reading ... . . 4 'Against it ... 123 Majority agai n st th e second reading 119 GAOLS BILL. On the motion BOROUGH of Mr. MUNTZ the Borough Gaols Bill was read &second time and ordered to be committed on Friday. MEDICAL CHARITIES IRELAND. ••••• On the motion of Colonel DUNNE a return was ordered of the medical charities in Ireland, the county les. hospitals or infirmaries, _the f ever h osp i ta l s, and other chariti es , supported wholly or in part from county funds. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and tna elouse adjoured at Six o'clock. FRAN CE. The Prime says—" M. de Lamartine who had de manded leave of absence for two months to proceed to the East, yesterday withdrew his demand. M. de Laanartine thought that it would not be right for an . . elected of universal suffrage to leave his post at the " ' 'moment at which universal suffrage is about to be p . He has, ther e f ore , a dj ourned his . d in question. journey, and sacrificed, ,_t. without hesitation, a great in terest to a gre at 7 duty." The e publishesy the following at the head medium of a huissier : ."of i ll ls he'l? number ePll 'i to qu -day, transmitted to it by the Prefect " 6th May, 1850.. of Police through the The _Republique published in its 1 dissolution of the Legion the following recital: It " - number of this morning jII di , e i appears that ' di . St. Hubert has not discouraged the Legiti artL a ".A *mists in their project of l n organization. Welt i n f orme d, the sof th the ion lf of we the e p buches s of Berry assemble every Neuve St. Augustin, great num bersand at a place in the Rue . .; discuss, without any police annoyances, than eleven evenin • - and projects. Thia meetin has in n olitical ideas . We have hundred members at one franca MPhil' hid the means of witnessing a to us. In ramoo.nreth enrolment which had been pointed out distri a cafe of the Quartier of the Bank there is . plan of bated gratuously a demi chope of beet, or a small glass a pipe of brandy, two sous' worth of tobacco, and pipe or with a fleur-de-lis in white enamel, sur mounted by a crown of the same material, to every ci:izen who comes to that establishment. Those who accept these articles are in a moment accosted by two or three individuals, who invite him to attend the. meeting in the Rue Neuve St, Augustin. One of our friends, who voluntarily yielded to their entrea ties, made the stran ges t revelations to us as to the honest • and moderate conversations of the member s of that meeting. The Prefect of Police is perfectly well aware of what is done at the meeting in the Rue Neuve Saint Augustin, as well as at several • others of different colours, which the Republique per ) hope also knows of, but which it does not point out. The • •men of order may rely on the vigilance of the authori • ties, who will know how to deal with both one and the other of these meetings, whatever may be the colour to • Jvhich they belong, as soon as they become a real cause ' - 'of uneasiness fur p u bli c or d er . A s to the cafe to which the democratic journal alludes, it is situated In the Rue Coquilliere, and also perfectly well known to the police. It is necessary only to add, in j•. PAPER 8 THE SUN, order to complete the recital of the Republique, that in addition to pipes ornamented with fleur-de-lis, there are other pipes to be found there, and in greater number, ornamented with red flags crossed, with the famous Phry gian bonnet, and a poniard in the middle. We know not which of the above emblems is the most sedit ous; but when found together in the same establishment, it affords another proof that extremes touch." LONDON, ing their utmost exertion to interest the workpeople, and the result at present reported is that the establish ment of Messrs. Gott have subscribed 78/. I Is. 10d., and of Messrs. John Walker, 11/. 3s. NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.—The workmen of Messrs. Newell have subscribed 1/. 17s. to the general fund. NORTHAMPTON.—A " provident society" formed to enable the working classes to visit the Exhibition by the payment of weekly contributions. NORIFICH.—The workmen of Messrs. Clabburn hare subscribed 3/. 13s. 6d. to the general fund. OXFORD.—The workmen employed at the University Press, and in Messrs. Spier's establi s h men t, h ave sub scribed upwards of 1$?. to the general fund. PRESTON (LANCASHIRE.)—A committee of working man has been formed, and the local commissioners have opened a bank for deposits, to enable the operatives to visit the Exhibition. ST. AUSTELL.—At a public meeting, on the 16th of April, it was resolved to form a workmen's association in the district, for the purpose of enlisting their co operation in aid of the Exhibition. SOIITHAMPTON.—NearIy 401. was subscribed by work men in two days towards the general fund. The mayor, in his letter which accompanied the list of subscribers, states that, independent of the general fund, an " Ex hibition Travelling Fund" is established, by which, in contributions of one penny a week, means will be raised to enable the workmen to visit London during the Exhibi tion. They have also another fund, called the Admis sion and Provision Fund, by which the members will be enabled " to go to the door of the Exhibition with a sil ver key in the shape of a shilling." WHITEHATEN.—A working class committee formed to collect weekly subscriptions of one shilling to provide for visits to the Exhibition. WooLviacn.—The foremen from the Royal Dockyard hate been added to the local committee. BRITISH AND FOREIGN SCHOOL SOCIETY. A public meeting of this society was held on Mon day at Exeter Hall, the Right lion. the Earl of Car lisle, vice-president, in the chair. On the platform we saw John Abel Smith, Esq., M.P. The Earl of CARLISLE said he always felt it a sa tisfaction and distinction to be called upon by the committee, and permitted by the meeting, to have the honour of presiding over ;the annual meeting of the British and Foreign School Society ; though when he recollected that, in addition to previous occasions, he believed this was the third consecutive year in which he had enjoyed that privilege, he almost felt that he had some reason to complain ; but he was sure the meeting had reason to complain that there was not more of variety in the arrangements. He had also found on those occasions, by experience, that all possible information and detail concerning the present condition and immediate operations of this society were so fully as well as so ably brought before them in the report, which would be read after he should have con cluded these observations, that little indeed, com paratively, was left for the speaker who initiated these proceeding to enlarge upon. But with reference to the more general views of the whole question, which on all such occasions must engage their attention, he confessed though he thought both those whom_he ad dressed and himself had reason to regret the want of novelty in the organ which addressed them from the chair, yet there were circumstances in the pre sent complexion and features of the times, in con nexion with those masses of the people upon whom education and religion and public instruction gene rally were intended and required to operate, and on the questions which affected the subject of education, of religious and moral instruction, which rendered him not indisposed or reluctant to avail himself of any opportunity to raise his voice, and to impart some portion of his feelings, not with the presumptuous expectation or hope of correcting or amending, but of still bringing something of testi mony, and protesting against what seemed to him to be something of the prevailing tendencies and dispositions of the day. Society at large, notwith standing there were many most encouraging symptoms of improvement and progress, appeared to him to be still labouring under evils which he could portray by no epithet short of terrific. They wore a hundred forms, and presented themselves in a hundred ways; but perhaps they might roughly be classed as mainly coming under the general heads of ignorance, poverty, and crime. These, not sithstanding the better prospects and cheering promises which may break the moral and social clouds here and there, still seemed to him to be the pale, and angry, and menacing forms which stalked around the camp of the Gospel. Now, he looked upon it to be the mission— the true, the obvious, the paramount mission, both of individual men and corporate bodies, to wage inces sant war against those evils which still disturbed and desolated the globe. To do so was the real voca tion of Christian men ; and thus would they spread the glory of the Christian church. Then the question came upon them—to what extent were they to achieve that end ? Whilst partially he hoped and believed that they were doing so to a large extent ; professedly he knew they all were ; but still, when they looked attentively to the matters which seemed most to oc cupy their attention, and to engross their interest, and kindle their passions, and to engage, as it were, their heart of hearts, did they find them prominently em ployed upon those common objects and against those common foes ? Was it not too frequently that their attention and energy—that that attention was diverted and distracted upon differences sometimes trivial, and more frequently uncharitable, often wholly imma terial as to any practical issue ? Were there not too frequently differences about the mode and form and ceremony of doing the thing, instead of deter mining that the thing should be done ? Was it not too frequently a jealous exclusion, or a vexatious worrying of themselves and each other, instead of the hearty wish to combine, and a sincere effort to co-operate. Now the pith of these charges did not appear to him to lie exclusively at the door of any Church or denomination, but in some degree to in fluence or infest them all. At one time the charge was that some Church or denomination, or some party or section in it, omitted to teach a truth; at others, that they interpolated a gloss. At one time they were told that they unduly straightened the reins of au thority; at other times they were told they were open-- ing the door to dangerous licence. One was said to rely on empty ordinances, another on uncovenanted mercies—if they joined such a party or such persons, they were told they confounded truth and error ; if they received assistance from such quarters, they were accused of touching the unclean thing. Ile would not be supposed, for a moment, to under value the duty which was incumbent on every person to conform to the clearest p recep t s w hi ch he could form in relation t o every thi ng con nected with the will of the Supreme Being, and of the true meaning of His word. But there were frequently matters which must lie between the soul and its Maker. But with reference to the position of the Christian in the world in which he was placed, let:' him but remember that ignorance, total ignorance was what he had to enlighten ; that p over t y was what he had to raise and to relieve; that crime was what he had to discountenance and to subdue And here he did not say that other questions would not arise, that other duties would not present themselves ; but after all that was done, they would be apt to as sume their proper place and proportion, for he was inclined to believe that there was hardly a single dis pute or difference which seemed so much to distract the quiet of many of our Christian bodies and commu nities, however great might be the truths, however awful the mysteries with which they seemed to deal, yet they ought not to stand still and silent, before that seething and fermenting mass of degrading sirs and bru talising vice which was threatening to engulph so many more of our teeming population. He should be very sorry, and should be the last person to introduce any political topics; still less willing should he be to com ment in :any unfriendly spirit on the proceedings of any foreign country, yet, by way of illustration, he might be tempted to observe that the same charge which they heard often preferred against the various sects of those who were called the friends of order in the neighbouring republic of France, that instead of offering a combined and organized front against the advances of Socialism and the onward march of anarchy, they were distracted by mutual jealousies and repulsions, one party being for Henry V., and the other for Louis Philippe, and another for Bona parte, forgetful of the preponderating mass of those who were for nobody and nothing. He was tempted to observe that the same charges seemed, in a degree, to attach to those Christian bodies and communities, or some . portion o f th em , who expended upon jealousies without and re criminations within that zeal and energy which ought to fight out the battle of our common faith against that infidelity which denied, and the vice which dishonoured it.—(Hear.) Such con siderations as these would tend to discourage and to d if is h p e iri b t e h l i i m eve w d it t h h r a e t ga su rd ch to d t is h p e u p t r e o s s p a n e c d t s d i o ff f e t r h e e n f e u e t s ur a e s , those he had lamented—if he might not say he had condemned—leavened the entire mass of them to any great extent. But ha derived his chief grounds of consolation and comfort from the hope that those very differences and disputes did not extend far beneath the surface. There was a very large and growing mass of humble-minded, peace-loving, and unobtrusive per sons whose cry was not heard in the streets, but who, whilst Scribes disputed and Pharisees denounced, were ready to bend over the stricken by the road-side, and to pour oil into their wounds. There was now an opportunity afforded of acting in this spirit—the spirit of peace—and pouring oil into the wound, which seemed to him immediately prescribed to the meeting by the plan and operations of this society. The Noble Earl, in eloquent terms, made an appeal on behalf of this society. The report, which was read by the Secretary, first alluded to the claims of the ignorant on all classes of the community. The model schools were full, 1,000 children being in daily attendance. b 0,986 children had been under instruction since the schools were opened ; thirteen pupil teachers had been ap pointed in the boys' schools, and eight in the girls' school. In the normal schools 142 students had GERMANY. In the Chamber of Deputies of Saxony, on the ht, some Deputies blamed strongly a declaration of the Minister Zachinski, to the effect that the Government would not put into execution the fundamental rights not yet in vigour, and that it would even propose the revocation of those already existing, which may ap pear to it to be injurious to the prosperity of the country. One Deputy proposed that a Committee should be appointed to decide whether the Govern ment ought not to be impeached, but a formal vote on the matter was delayed until the official publication of the declaration complained of. CRICKET. ELEVEN OF ENGLAND V. TWENTY-TWO OF SCOTLAND. Phis match was commenced on Monday, at Edinburgh and the following is the result of the two days' play : ENGLAND-FIRST INNINGS. Wisden, c Sopp, b Usherwood Clarke, c Sopp, b Lawrence ........... ............. A. Mynn, Esq., b Lawrance Parr, c Doherty, b Lawrence Box, b Usherwood 3 Martingell, b Usherwood N. Felix, Esq., b Anderson . ........ .... ... 58 Adams, run out 1 Guy, c Hutchins, b Usherwood Chatterton, not out ... l6 Hillyer, st Sopp, b Anderson . Byes, 7 ; wide, 9 ; no ball, 0 Total 134 SCOTLA,ND-FIRST LNNMGS. W. Hersburgh, Esq, c Mynn, b Widen Whigham, Esq.. rim out Mr. Atkinson, b Wisden ... Wright, c Hillyer, b Wisden .. Capt. Hutchinson, b Wisden Lieut. Dickins, c Felix, b Clarke ... Lawrence, c Mynn, b Wisden T. Crcft, Esq, b Wisden Anderson, b Clark H. J. Wylie,Esq., b Wisden .• ..... .... 0 W. Moncrieff, Esq., run out l7 Sopp, b Wisden 1 A. Imrie, Esq., b Mynn .... W. McLeish, Esq., 1 b w, b Mynn R. Walker, Esq., b Martingell J. Dewar, Esq., c Wisden, b Mynn 2 Mr. Thomson, c Felix, b Clarke 1 Usherwoo4, c Hiliyer, b Mynn Major Doherty, b Mynn Sir J. Carnegie, Bart., not out T. Mackenzie, Esq., run out W. Home, Esq., run out .... 0 80,1b1,w3,nb4 4 Total EYGLANDSECOND INNINGS. Parr, not out Adams, b Lawrence Guy, not out Chatterton, c Moncreiff, b Wright l9 Byes, 4 ; 1 b, 1; w, 5 ; n b, 0 Total 6B STATE OF TRADE. (From the Manchester Guardian of this day.) MANCHESTER, TUESDAY.—Last week an advance of fully id. per lb. was realised to a fair extent, both in yarns for home consumption and for shipment to the European continent ; while in goods there was a tendency in the same direction, which, however, through the backwardness of buyers, did not result in a positive rise. To-day the market has shown, as it has so often done before, how sensitive it is of the least check. Al though the stock of yarns in the hands of producers is very light, and light also in those of our foreign customers, while the accounts of sales are favourable from the east, still, a day or two's quietness in the Liverpool market has very perceptibly diminished the spirit there was in our own. The Germans and the home buyers have at once held back, and the eastern merchants have not ventured upon any operations; so that the amount of business has been inconsiderable. In goods, also, there has been a general inactivity, and a some what increased difficulty of selling. But spinners, working without profit, or to a ruinous loss, and seeing no immediate prospect of cheaper cotton, are much more in the mind to lessen their production in a still greater degree, thaa to make any concession from their present demands. In this department, therefore, the greatest firmness prevails ; and, if it is not equally marked in goods, there are rea sons fur the difference in the absence of improving accounts from the Levant and the west coast of America, as well as in a certain degree of disappoint ment from the eastern advices ; yet manufacturers adhere to their quotations with much steadiness. ROCYDALE, MONDAY.—We have had very little change in the flannel market to-day, either in price or demand, from that of last Monday. There has been considerable competition for the Government order of 200,000 yards of flannel awarded some ten days ago. Several of the manufacturers who have been suc cessful in former years in obtaining a fair share of this order have failed doing so this year. So low have been the tenders that many of those who have got a fair share of the order are unwilling to acknow ledge it, and those who do own it say they have got more of it than they wish. Report speaks of a Man chester merchant as being one of the successful com petitors. All has been quiet in the wool market, and prices steady. MACCLESFIELD, TUESDAY.—There has been a fair inquiry since our last for manufactured goods, parti cularly of fancy styles, which have found ready buyers. The business done is not large, as this description of goods were only held in limited quantities by the trade. Some houses are now directing their attention to an alteration of patterns suitable for the autumn season. We hear, also from Manchester, that the silk manufacturers there hare been selling silk goods more freely during the last week ; should this state of things continue, we hope, ere long, to see a better demand for thrown silk, when manufaclurers are expected to make pre paration for the autumn trade. The mills continue working full time. In thn raw silk market only a limited business was transacted, but a better inquiry exists the last few days. Prices are reported firm, with the exception of Italians and,Brutias,which have latterly been considered above the market, as compared to other classes of silk. Letters from Italy, however, mention that prices of the new crop were expected to rule high, in consequence of the ungenial weather experienced there. We regret to note the failure of an influential firm engaged in the shipping of silk manufrctured goods in Liverpool, who stopped payment on Friday. The liabilities are said to be about 30,000/. ; of which between 17,0001. or 18,0001. falls: on silk manufacturers of Macclesfield. The creditors of this town had a meeting yesterday at noon, and agreed to let the firm go on as there is all probability of their paying the whole amount if sufficient time be allowed. The bad spring trade in America is said to be the cause of the failure ; it is one of the severest blows our ma nufacturers for many years ; and nearly one-half the amount falls on one house, which, however, is for tunately well able to bear it. HUDDERSFIELD, TUBSDAY.—We cannot report any favourable change in the state of the market at present : two or three of the warehouses have been doing pretty well, but buyers are scarce, and, gene• rally speaking, business is slack for this time of the year. Of course the weather, which is unusually cold, must have great influence. HALIFAX, SATURDAY MAY 4.—There WSS but a slender attendance of merchants in our Piece flail to day ; and, with the exception of a little more inquiry for job lots, there was no particular alteration in the amount of business transacted or in prices. The yarn market is steady, and the spinners are fully employed at late ra t es . Th ere i s no g reat quantity of wool changing hands, and where sales are forced a reduc tion has to be submitted to. EXHIBITION OF 1851. The following proceedings of working classes in the country, in support of the exhibition, have been re ported up to Friday last : ABERDEEL—At a public meeting on the 23d of April, it was resolved that a committee of twelve, to be named by the working classes, be added to the local committee. BLACIEBURN.—The workpeople in various mills have handed in subscriptions to the local committee there. BIRMINGEIAM.—The clerks and workmen of Messrs. Winfield and Son have subscribed 141. towards the ge neral fund. BOLTON.—A separate subscription fund established, called the " Operative Fund," for assisting artisans in perfecting objects for the Exhibition. BRADFORD (I onasarat).—A Working -men's Corn mittee formed, and mon e y c l u b s established, for the par o p se of providing funds to visit th e E x hib ition. BRIDPORT.—A " Friendly Society" formed, to enable the members, by small weekly subscriptions, to visit the Exhibition. --- CARLISLE.—About eight guineas have been subscribed by working men towards the general fund. DARLINGTON. —At a meeting on March 1, •t re solved that a number of practical working I was men be in ' vited to join the ccmmittce. Drrtnr.—The workmen in the employ of Messrs. Holmes have su bscribed, without solicitation, the sum of 51. 6s. 3,1. towards the general fund. DUNDEE.—The Provost has announced his intention to call a meeting of the working classes, in order to procuro their co-operation. EDINBURGH.—An address to the workmen of Edin• burgh has been published, wherein it is proposed to 0,000 classify the different trades,. and hold sectional meetings, such meetings, to the number of fuurteen, commencing wi the evening trades of April 30, and ending May 15. The raise 10,000 are reported to have declared their intention to g e T ntr alitind. sixpences from working men towards the ....axxna.......T i nued __ he executive of the local committee have 44 "dugs to the foremen,. &e., of mills, request- . WEDNESD AY EVENING, MAY 8, 1850. been under instruction during the year. Great diffi culty was experienced in obtaining the services of qualified men ; 132 female teachers had been under training during the year; 72 new schools for 7,000 children had been opened during the year ; 50 schools had been supplied with temporary teachers ; 166 had been permanently supplied. In the agency depart ment 339 towns and villages had been visited ; 41 public meetings had been held. The report concluded with an earnest appeal for enlarged and liberal support. J. A. SMITH, Esq., M.P., moved tha adoption of the report, which was seconded by the Rev. GEORGE SMITH, and carried unanimously. The ReT. Mr. PENNINGTON moved the second reso lution, which returned thanks to the Queen and Prince Albert, and other members of the Royal Family, for their continued support. The Rev. W. CHALMERS secondad the resolution, which was carried unanimously. At this moment the Noble CHAIRMAN stated he was compelled to leave the chair, having other en gagements to attend to. Sir Thomas Edward Colebrooke, Bart., occupied the chair in the absence of the Noble Earl. On the motion of Mr. W. TOOK E, seconded by Dr. BACH, of Wirtemburg, thanks were voted to the Earl of Carlisle and Sir Thomas Colebrooke. Sir T. E. COLIHROOKE returned thanks, and the meeting separated. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF COMMONS, May 7. The SPEAKE R took the Chair at Four o'clock. P RIVATE BUSINESS. passeThe : following Bills were react a third time and d Dundee and Perth and Aberdeen Railway Junction. North Staffordshire Railway (Extension of Time for Purchase of Lands, &c.) South Staffordshire Railway. The following Bills, as amended, were considered and agreed to:— Waterford and Limerick Railway. York and North Midland Railway. PETITIONS. Petitions were presented against Sunday labour in the Post - office by Mr. W. Patten, from Southampton; by Mr. Duncuft, Sir R. H. Inglis, Mr. Scholefield, Mr. Henley, Mr. Ewart, and Lord Dudley Stuart, from the Scotch Church, Regent's-square. Mr. LOCKHART presented a petition from the Chamber of Commerce at Glasgow praying for the adoption of measures fur the more effectual suppression of the slave trade. Mr. G. BERKELEY presented a petition from a Place in Glou cesters hi re t o t h e same effect, and pray ing that a hi g h er duty m i ght b e i mposed on slave-grown sugar; also a petition from Gloucestershire in favour of international arbitration. Sir R. H. INGLIS presented several petitions against the Marriage Bill. Mr. S. CRAWFORD preseate d a petition from the county of A ntr i m i n f avour o f tenant r i g h t. Mr. BROTHERTON presented a petition from a place in Cambridgeshire against gra nt i ng a dditi o n a l licences to be er - s h o p s . Mr. Alderman SIDNEY presented a petition from St. Brides, London, against the law of settlement. Mr. CARDWELL presented a petition from Liver pool Praying that impressment in the navy might be abolished. Mr. BECKETT presented a petition in favour of the Ten Hours Factory Bill. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD presented a petition from Bir mingham in favour of international arbitration, and a petition from the same place in favour of a secular sys tem of education. Mr. HUME presented a petition from Abercorn in favour of international arbitration; also a petition from Arbroath against the Public Health Bill for Scotland, and a petition from Great Yarmouth against church. rates. Captain PECHELL presented several petitions from Brighton against church-rates; also a petition from the bakers of Brighton praying for the appointment of a Select Committee to inquire into the grievances of their trade. , Dr. POWER presented a petition from a place in the county of Cork in favour of tenant right. Sir DE LACY EVANS presented a petition from bakers in Westminster praying for an inquiry into their trade. Mr. O'CONNOR presented a petition from Chester against any alteration in the Factories' Act. Mr. CLAY presented a petition from Hull against the Highways Bill. Sir E. BUXTON presented petitions from Hackney, Bethnal-green, and Dalston, in favour of the Extramural Interments Bill. Several petitions were presented against the adver tisement duty. ATTORNEYS' CERTIFICATE DUTY. Mr. BAILLIE wished to know whether it was the intention of th• Noble Lord (Lord Grosvenor) to extend his Bill for the abolitio❑ of the attorneys' certificate duty to Ireland and Scotland. Lord GROSVENOR replied that owing to an error in drawing up the Bill Ireland and Scotland were omitted, but it was his intention to include those por tions of the kingdom in the proposed measure. Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition from St. Paul's, Whitcchapel, in favour of the Intramural Inter ments Bill, TAX ON MERCHANT SHIPPING. Mr. FORSTER gave notice that on a❑ early day ho should bring under the consideration cf the House the 4ubject of levying taxes on merchant shipping, with a view to their reduction. SLAVE•GROWN SUGAR. Sir E. BUXTON said, having last night, at the re que,t of the Noble Lord the First Minirter, put off his motion on the subject of slave-grow❑ sugar, he had now to inform the House that the Noble Lord had pro mised to give him an opportunity of bringing the motio❑ forward on Friday.--(Hear. h•ar.) CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. Mr. EWART deterred his motion on the subject of capital punishment till the 30th inst. MALT-TAX. Mr. FREWEN, on behalf of Mr. Cayley, gave notice that on the 30th of May he should move the repeal of the malt-tax. COTTON TRADE—INDIA. Mr. BRIGHT gave notice that on this day week he should move that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty to appoint a Commission to proceed to India to inquire into the obstacles which prevent the growth and increase of cotton in the presidencies of Bombay and Madras. THE LORD CHANCELLOR. Mr. IL BAILLIE asked the Secretary if State for the Home Department whether he was able to give the country any intimation as to the probable period when the Lord Chancellor might be expected to resume the duties of his office? Sir G. GREY said that within the last few weeks the Lord Chancellor had been suffering from a severe fit of indisposition; but he was happily so much recovered that, though he had been unable to attend court, he had been hearing cases o f great i mportance a t his private residence for some days past, and had given judgment in some of them.—(Hear, h ear. ) INDUSTRIAL EXHIBITION OF 1851. Mr. ARKWRIGHT asked the President of the Board whetherofteTrireardeeinanysiay he intended to ask Parliament to in with respect to the Exhibit ion of the Works of Indu s t ry i n 1851, and whether he coul d g ive an assurance that no appli cat i on f or an advance of public money in aid of th a t E xhibition w ill, under any cir cumstances, be sancti one d by her M a j es ty' s Government? Mr. LABOUCEIERE said he certainly did not antici pate that it would be his dui to ask Parliament to in terfere in an exhibi t i on which he thought would entirely depend on the voluntary contributions of individuals. The only way in which he might ask Parliament to in terfere would b e i n order to a mend the Act of Registra tion of Designs, with the view of protecting from piracy those articles w hi c h m i ght b e s h ow n at the exhibition. With regard to th e secon d ques tion, having the honour to be one of the C omm i ss i oners , he believed nothing was further fro m t h e i ntent i on of the Commissioners than to apply for any advance of pu blic money, except it might be for som e or di nar y and trivial incidental ex penses. remaining INCUMBERED ESTATES COMMISSION. Lord NAAS asked the Secretary for Ireland, whether the notice appended to some of the advertisements of the Incumbered Estates Commissioners, stating " that the whether a Con?missioners will ive the purchaser the option of consent of o fur h e the present,Majesty's Government;hal mill Y's Billmshottielltybenthepurcb?.se money, th e disposedot to be o t,, ,h requiredas b euntilen issued Sir theo Parlia mentary- title will under such circumstances, be given by the Commissioners to the purchaser on the payment of the first moiety ; an d, if so, what security the Commis sioners will require fur the payment of the remaining half. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said with respect to the first question he was not aware that the consent of the Go vernment was necessary. With regard to the other questions he could give no infor mation on the subject. GOVER NOR BARKLEY. In r e pl y to a quest i on from Mr. G. BERKELEY, Mr. LABOUCHERE said the dispatch of Governor Barkl ey f rom Br i t i sh G u iana was to be found in t h e blue-book conta i n i ng the various reports of the Gover nors of Colonies to the Colonial-office, page 343. CAPTURE OF A SLAV E F RIGATE. In reply to a question from M r. G. B ERKELEY, Mr. HAWES sai d, be was able to state from in quiries made that morning at the Admiralty, th at in formation had been received at that department of the captur e of a slave steam-frigate on the coast of Brazil, called the Providentia, and she was found to be empty. PUBLIC PETITIONS. In reply to Mr. H. HERBERT, The SPEAKER said that the s i gnatures attached to publicptitions ought to be attac h ed to the sheet on which the p et i t i on was . Lord CAS TLER EAGH said he tho ug h t t h e publi c ought to be put in p o ssession of th at infortna ti°n, as he himself often received petitions, the signatures to which were on several slips cif paper, and before pre senting it he was obliged to paste them together. Mr. N'E WDEGATE inquired whether there had been any alteration in the course taken by the Committee of Public Petitions. Mr. THORNELY said there had been no alteration whatever. Honourable Dlrnibers were entirely unaware of the very irregular manner in which the petitions presented to the House were got up, bearing in many cases signatures which naight;he the signatures torn from letters, and often many different signatures written in the same hand. Above 8,000 petitions had been pre sented to th e H ouse d ur i ng the present session, o f wh i ch 800 had been printed. Mr. lIUME hoped it would be made known publicly that no person had a r4ht to sign the name of another to a petition, Mr. TIIORNELY said the Committee had referred to it a petition fry m a grand jury to which the names of all the jury were affixed by the foreman in his own handwriting, and the Committee had it printed as a petition coining from the foreman. The matter then dropped. EXTRAMURAL INTERMENTS. Lord DUDLEY STUART wished to put a question to the Secretary for the Home Department with respect to the Nletropolitati Interments Bill. That Bill stood on the paper for Friday n.:xt, and as it was one in which the public took the greatest possible interest, it would be a great convenience to Hon. Members if his Right Hon. Friend would state whether he thought he could really being on his Bill on that day or before the Whitsun holidays. Sir G. GREY replied that the Bill referred to could not be brought on either on Friday or Monday, in con sequence of the pressure of other business; that tl e recess would begin on Friday week, but he would fix it for the Friday after Whitsuntide. The business for Friday next would be the third reading of the Irish Franchise Bill. ROI3BERY AT DUBLIN CASTLE. lier. HUME wished to know it the Government had received any information that au official in Dublin Castle had decamped with a considerable sum of public money?—(A laugh.) Sir W. SONIERVILLE—I would rather answer the lion. Gentleman's question to morrow.—(Laughter.) REPEAL OF THE ADVERTISEMENT DUTY. Mr. M. GIBSON presented several petitions praying fur the repeal of the advertisement duty. Mr. EWART presented petitions to the same effect from the Worcester Chronicle, the Wilts Independent, the Edinburgh Weekly Register, the Newcastle Chro nicle, the Reifi-ewshire Advertiser, the Illustrated London IVews, the /I;eics of the World, Bell's Weekly Messcng r, the Atlas, Reynold's Miscel lany, the Farmer's Herald, the Derbyshire Advertiser, the Sheffield Free Press, the Bath Journal, the Kent Herald, the Nenagh Journal, the Nottingham Mercury, and a.number of other metropolitan and provincial journals. The petitions presented showed the deep interest that was taken in this motion by the class to whom it re lated, but he brought it forward upon public grounds. He considered this tax was one of the most objectionable taxes which could possibly be imposed on the commu nity; it stood in the same predicament, though it had stronger grounds for its abolition, as the auction duty, which the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tam worth repealed. The Right lion. Baronet repealed that duty because he considered it was a duty on transactions. He held with the Right Hon. Baronet that no duty could be more objectionable in a political, moral, or com mercial point of view than a tax on transactions. He held a duty on advertisements to be a tax on transactions between man and man, and, therefore, strongly objec tionable. He objected to it on general grounds ntore than he objected to the taxes on knowledge, which his Right Honourable Friend the Member for Man chester brought forward the other day, though he participated with him in his hostility to those taxes; but this tax on advertisements was more than a t.ex on knowledge, it was a tax on commerce, on agriculture, on literature, and the wants of the commu nity. Could any one of them take up any commercial newspaper without seeing how fettered were the inter communication between merchant and merchant—the buyer and seller, by this very tax on advertise ments? Do not let Honourable Gentleman, who made the agricultural interest their great care, think that he advocated the repeal of this tax on commercial grounds alone, for to-night he had had the honour of presenting petitions, signed by the proprietors and publishers of newspapers, which were almost con fined to the promotion of agriculture, in favour of this motion, and therefore those Hon. Gentlemen who so zealously supported the agricultural interest would do well to suppers this proposal. This duty, moreover, was a tax upon literature; indeed, Mr. M'Culloch proved that the advertisement duty was the heaviest of all taxes that pressed upon the lite rary man. It was a tax too upon religious communication, and he had also preseatel petitions from the printers and publishers of religious newspapers, and even their circulation was affected by this prohibitory duty. It was a tax also upon art, a nd suc h p u bli ca ti ons as the Illustrated News and the Art Journal severely suffered from the operation of this duty. It was a tax too upon wit, since it affected such publications as Punch, but he objected to it principally on general public grounds and the unjust principle upon which it w a s levied : Why should the poor author, who published a sixpenny pamphlet, or a sempstress, pay the same advertisement duty that was imposed on a wealthy man selling a,large estate. In a word, the tax was objectionable upon all grounds, no matter whether it had reference to commerce, agriculture, or religion. The advertisement duty was almost as bad as if they were to tax people going to a corn or a stock-exchange; it was the same thing in principle, though different in degree. Not only was this tax so generally objection able, but it was one of great inequality. 11 was levied only on advertisements in newspapers, and not on ad vertisements in books, or in Bradshaw, for instance, and other works of that kind. There was another hardship attending it that a newspaper pro prietor sometimes paid as much for one line as he did for a column and a half. It gave rise to all those advertising vans and that unfortunate class of in dividuals c Wed walking advertisements, whom they met in the streets. Some years ago Mr. Poulett Thompson stated in the House that whilst there were 10,000,000 of advertisements in America there were only 1,000,000 in England. In 1837 there were in England, Ireland, Scot land. Wales, and the Channel Islands 565 newspapers ; In the same year there were 1,700 in America. Before the 3s. duty was reduced in 1833 to Is. Gd. the number of advertisements amounted to about one million in the three kingdoms, and since then they had increased to two millions. The amount of the duty levied amounted to about 170,0001., and since the reduction the amount was 157,000/. So that it was pretty evident that the amount would speedily mount up to the original sum. He proposed the total repeal of this duty, and not wishing to weary the patience of the House, ho should conclude by denouncing this duty as one of the worst ever imposed, and one of the first which the Chancellor of tie Exchequer should have taken off, as it was one which equally pressed upon all classes of the community. The Hon. Gentleman then sat down, after moving, in the words of his motion, that it is ex pedient that the advertisement duty should be repealed. Mr. M. GIBSON seconded the motion. Mr. TRELAW NY opposed the motion as being in consistent with a motion which he himself had upon the paper relative to the national debt. The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER also op posed the motion. He could only repeat what he had said on former occasions when this sub ject was brought before the House—that the question was not whether the tax was a burden on the class who had to pay it, but whether our w h o l e system o f taxat i on unjustly was imposed. Many objections might be urged to particular taxes, which he should be happy to remit if possible, but he had not arrived at that happy state, nor had any of his predecessors in office, which would enable him to carry on the government of the country without money. The Government had made all those remissions in taxation which they were enabled to do, and which they thought advisable, and he should, therefore, call upon the House to resist any further attempts for the reduction of taxation. Mr. HUME said the Right lion. Gentlema n ' s ob servations amounted to an appeal to this effect—" I have male up my mind, I won't listen to any change, I consider what I have already done in the way of the reduction of taxation the best, and therefore I will not answer the particular objections to this tax." Now, he (Mr. Hume) objected, in the first instance, to the remissions which the Government had made, as not being necessary, and he would remind the Right Hon. Gentleman that it was the duty of the Government to repeal those taxes which pressed most heavily on the community.—(Hear, hear.) The Chancellor of the Exchequer having a surplus ought to be told that he had made a wrong selection, and this tax was the one that had the strongest claims upon the House fur its repeal. But why could they not reduce the expenditure so as to relieve the products of the country from all those objectionable taxes? He could see no reason why they should not pursue that course, and he called on the House to adopt it.—(Hear.) Mr. EWART replied, stating that he had brought forward this motion because he objected to the tax on principle, and all he now called upon the House to de was to express an opinion that, on principle, the tax was wrong.—(Hear, hear.): The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion ... •-• ..• 39 .Against it .., 2OB Majority against the motion...-169 The motion was consequently lost. SLAVE LABOUR. Mr. G. BERKELEY postponed his motion respecting the exclusion from our markets of the produce of slave labour, to Friday, the 31st inst. JOURNEYMEN BAKERS. Mr. COWAN presented a petition from Edinburgh; Lord D. STUART and Mr. B. OSBORNE presented other petitions from other places in favour of a Select Com mittee to inquire into the sanitary condition of the jour neymen bakers. Lord R. GRO SVENOR said his motion was not for relief from taxation, or an appeal to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, but was an appeal to the heart and feel ings of the House, and therefore be trusted it would re ceive due consideration. He bad on a former occasion stated the evils under which the journeymen bakers laboured, and he could not bring himself to believe that any serious objection would be made to the motion be fore the House. A previous motion for a Select Com mittee made by him had been met by the Right Hon. Secretary of State for the Home Department with this reply:—" What necessity can there be for inquiry, when the e hole case is so well known from papers that have been ino‘ed lor and laid upon the table of the House." Afterwards he had moved for leave to bring in a Bill to limit the hours of working in - - bakehouses ; but in this be had alio Igen. unsuccessful. He was told at the time that the remedies he proposed would not meet the evils they were intended to cure, and all sorts of dismters were prophesied from the working of such a Bill, should it becomo law. fie had a petition in his hand, most re- spectfully worded, which prayed the House t consent to an inquiry, as the petitioners were satisfied that the ad mitted evils would then demand from that House a Bill SI to reform them. He considerei thpse poor p. nons had great reason to complain of the manner in which their grievances had hitherto been met. He thought they had a right to claim the attention of the House on sanitary grounds. But in addition to this and other arguments,' he thought the House ought to grant the required Com mittee, if it were enly because the journeyman bakers rrquetited it, and they surely were the best judges of their own condition and grievances. He begged to move for a Select Committee to inquire whether any measures can be tak e n to i mprove t h e san i tary c ndii i un of the jour neymen bakers. Sir G. GREY would gladly agree to the motion, if he believed it would lead to the pra3tical results the Noble Lord expected. But the reasons he had urged two years ago against a similar measure were still unchanged. It was impossible not to feel the force of the argument used on two former Occasions, that it was in expedient to grant a Committee of Inquiry founded on petitions such as that presented by the Nobl. Lord, if no clear idea was given at the same time of the legisla tive measures intended to be founded on the report. On the former occasion the remedy for existing grievances proposed by the Noble Lord was rejected by a large majority, because it violated the principles of political economy, and would not effect its purpose. Ag,in, if this Committee were granted, the Noble Lord could not ensure the House frAn being called upon by other trades to have similar Committees to it quire into their condi tion and to suggest alterations. He believed that ar rangements might be made between the bakers and their employers to remedy the evils of which they complained; but by looking to Parliament for relief they were divert ing their attention from the remedy which lay open to them.—(Hear, hear.) Believing that no good would re sult from the appointment of the Committee, and that it would only end in disappointment, he felt bound to op pose the metien.—(hear, hear.) Mr. A. STAFFORD said when the petitioners found that so skilful a debater as the Right Hon. Baronet could bting forward no better arguments than those which he had adduced, they would conceive that their case had to; br en fairly met, and that he hafd trusted to the advocates of political economy and to Ministerial influence rather than to argument. It had bean said that it this motion should be agreed to, other trades would bring forward their claims. But if the claims of the working classes were to be met by a refusal to in quire into their grievances he could prophesy that they would not be frequently preferred. But he could not congratulate the House on the alternative that would he adopted by the working classes. Neither did he think the experience of what had taken place in other coun tries ought to make them indifferent to turn a deaf ear to those who exhibited such a perfect unanimity in their object and the mode in which they proposed to obtain it.—(Hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman intimated that any sanitary regulations ought to be proposed in the shape of a Bill. But, supposing that to be the proper course, would it not be better, in the first in stance, to hear from the bakers themselves a statement of their grievances ? Sir G. GREY intimated that the evidence was already on the table. Mr. STAFFORD—When the Noble Lord came for ward with a Bill, the Right Hon. Gentleman objected to it; and when the Noble Lord propertied a Committee, the Right Hon. Getleman said, " Why do you not bring in a Bill?"—(Hear.) The bakers could draw but one conclusion, namely, that Parliament was unable to miti gate their grievances, and refused to inquire into them. Such a mode of proceeding was not likely to attach the working classes to the institutions of the country, and when they saw a refusal to legislate for them, they might think it necessary to do a good deal more for themselves, and the result would be an increase of the dissatisfaction and ill-feeling which now prevailed —an exhibition of which would not conduce to the prosperity of the country.—(Hear, hear.) Let the House take care how they rejected the claims brought forward by a body of men whose good conduct entitled them to the attention, sympathy, and solicitude of the House. They would consider that the Noble Lord had done his duty towards them, but their feeling would be very different towards the Right Hon. Baronet. Considering this a fair subject for inquiry, as affecting the lives of his fel low-subjects, he should support the motion of the Noble Lord.—(Hear.) Mr. BRIGHT said the Noble Lord had expressed some dissatisfaction at a remark made by the Hon. Mem ber for the West Riding—that the objects occasionally brought forward by him bad a tendency towards the doctrines of Socialism, especially with reference to the course taken by him in the case of the bakers. If the Noble Lord was not one of that celebrated order of men, he was at least, their advocate. lie proposed an inquiry into their condition, which extended to the places of their work and their hours of labour, and he spoke of their horrid dens and their dirtiness. Now, he (Mr. B.) could not understand how Parliament could proceed to alter the arrangement of the buildings and bakehouses; nor did be understand how they could interfere with the labour of adult men, who were perfectly able to advocate their own cause, as might be seen in a publication entitled the Bahers' Gazette and General Trades' Advocate—a pub lication which did Lot bear the impress of the stamp authorities. He did not believe there was anything in the projects of Robert Owen, or in the plans of the So cialists of France, which savoured more of Communism than some of the articles in that paper. The clients of the Noble Lord were men, and not ordinary men, but Scotchmen.—(A laugh.) If there was one class of men on the face of the earth better able to take care of them selves than any other, there could be no doubt that the class consisted of Scotchmen.—(Laughter.) It their situation in this country as bakers was so horrible, he took it for granted they must have fled from something still more horrible in their own country.—(A laugh.) He (Mr. Bright) should feel ashamed of standing up as the advocate of hundreds and thousands of stalwart Scotchmen, who, having found their way from their own country, and being employed in the useful occupation of baking, should publish a gazette, and write articles of considerable literary merit, and then appeal to the House to remedy their grievances, instead of acting for themselves. If they could not protect themselves, there was no power in the House which could do so.—(Hear.) Lord D. STUART did not see why the publication of a gazette by a party should interfere with the redress of their grievances. He always considered publication the best way of making grievances known.—(Hear.) The House, in refusing inquiry, would not make itself more respected by the public at large; and as he bad seen nothing to justify the refusal of the Committee, he should support the motion.—(Hear.) Mr. G. THOMPSON said, if the views:of political economy entertained by the Hon. Member for Manches ter (Mr. Bright) could be supported by no better argu ments than those which he had adduced, he (Mr. Thomp son) would instantly separate himself from them.— (Hear.) He believed that more evidence on the subject was wanting, if not for purposes of legislation, at least for the purpose of influencing public opinion out of dcors; and be was of opinion that the appointment of a Committee would have a salutary effect, and that it would tend to the reformation of a trade which was ruining the health of a large portion of the industrious population.—(Rita r.) Mr. S. CRAWFORD said the House ought not to turn a deaf ear to the complaints brought bef.ire it, and he considered it his duty to support the motion. The House divided, when there appeared— For the motion Against it Majority against the motion —46 DUBLIN AND HOLYHEAD MAILS. Sir R. BULKELEY, in bringing forward the motion of which he had given notice on this subject, said he should very briefly state the points which he thought called for the appointment of a Committee. After re ferring to the offers made, in the first instance, for car rying the mails by the Chester and Holyhead Company, the Hon. Baronet said that the Admiralty offered the contract for public competition. The Chester and Holy head Company, finding that there was a strong feeling against them at the Admiralty, did not make a tender, but, nevertheless, gave the Admiralty to understand that they were ready to contract for carrying the Dublin and Holyhead mail for 30,0001. Information of this was given to the Dublin Steam-packet Company, and the result was, that the Ad miralty closed with them for 25,000/. The effect of this would be, that seventeen or eighteen hours would elapse before a person could reach Dublin from London. The contract having been given to the Dub lin Steam-packet Company, the Chester and Holyhead Railway Company would be compelled by circumstances to cease running their express trains in connexion with their express steamers, and the consequence would be that as much time would be required for the journey be tween London and Dublin as was required ten years ago. He deeply lamented that any department of the Government should have so far impeded private enter prise, and hoped the House would support the motion as one of great importance to both England and Ireland. He begged to move fur a Select Committee to investi gate and report upon all matters connected with the contract for the conveyance of the mails between Kings town and Holyhead. Also, how far the engagements en tered into by the Admiralty with the City of Dublin Steam-packet Company tend to develupe or otherwise the full advantages of the direct and continuous line of communication between London and Dublin, which the Chester and Holyhead Railway Company are, under the provisions of their Act of Parliament, now labouring to effect. The question having been put, Mr. FRENCH did not think the Chester and Holy head Railway Company . had the slightest cause of com plaint, for it never sent in an offer, but at the last mo ment, for the purpose of thwarting the Dublin Steam packet Company, gave the Government to understand that it would carry the mails at a lower rate. The Government had offered the contract to public competition, but nothing could be fairer than their conduct. Sir F. T. BARING said, that thinking at first that this was a mere squabble between two companies, he was disposed to oppose the motion; but as a charge had been made against the Government for the course they had taken, it was their duty rather to court than to shrink from inquiry.— (Hear.) In acceding to the motion he wished it to be understood, that he was far from ad mitting the correctness of the statement made by the mover of it. He believed there had been negotiations with the company who now complained, and that they had offered to the Treasury to carry the mails, but as the Admiralty thought they , asked too much, their offer was not accepted. After wards came the report of the Committee, and in accord tmw with it the contract was offered for public com petition. The Chester and Holyhead Company did not send in an offer. Duly one tender was sent in, and com munications were entered into with the parties making it, with the view of ascertaining whether they would not accept rower term:. The Chester and Holyhead Com pany then offered to contract for a less sum, but as that seemed an unfair way of doing business, the contract was again offered to public competition and the other company obtained it. The Government Lad no other course to pursue. In granting toe Committee he re garded the complaint as ono against the Government. They had entered into an agreement with a company— the faith of the Government was pledged and must be observed whatever might be the different:tar of parties. Mr. S. HELISERT was rejoiced that the Right Hon. Baronet had given the explanation they had ju.t heard, for he had been informed that with respect to the first tender the communications between the Government and otop , the Dublin Seam Company had been of a privated best' Fhougi..t it that e Carernit . e 7 0)4 0,0 0 pointe,t, for he doubted whether the Dublin vi ties ai would b, ifect service required., , 1 111 slated ha• ; , he other company was absurdly inu'•,;s Asking company hat spent enormous (1 j o cos r Asking th at g i gant i c wor k over the Menai, on into la ti pleting th e h ar b our at H a l h ea d, a nd had , in b is n ei) b e ade 4 the fir s t c l a i m on the GOvernment. app that what w ou ld happen would be this:—.lbte D teed e but Company being obliged to contract to carrY u id soli w ould acro3rsChicano!.e Chanel, the railway concompanyhght et , g , ne Kith the maids only, a nd the.Pub,'o ca patsy would b e o bli ge d to carr y t hem across °cored* nel without th e pas•engers, w h o would be bos re cen ts. little later by one o f t h e ra il wa y companies both result would p ro b a bl y b e di sa d v antageous to to tios panics and to the public service Mr. OSBORNE said, his and would probably be r t eferr w ed a.s t a o n in irn t Ph:r;ltg l iiry'l. motion fur the abolition of the Lord-Lieutens3 aus° land. Considering thegreat inducements ass° to money : he t the railway company expend which great national interests were locairdrblille. thought the impreision in the country Mee all they had not been dealt with in a WaY their 2° °.° mended. They had become responsible for b oos' for the improvement of Holyhead harbour, ile d Jib e strutted the tubular bridge over the Idena i--e t i be 0 1; tfreatest wot ks of modern limes He thougu'i r of,t, Member for Anglesea deserved the t t, hitli th - s u - Members for Ireland for having h g ut —e rou of forward. directo r Mr. MANGLES said that it was not as a the Chester and Holyhead Railway that 1 1 "itated i a t " say a word or two on the motion. Thel hr.„;, ° . icy take the contract at 35,0001., but the 10`, a a ality„ pooh-poohed the proposal. he Admiralty 41° ,7 8 0 4 sum absurdly large; but in their own e stie3 s sel, 13°I made no allewance fir the prime cost of the ° o dor' fur wear and tear, nor for insurance. The re tir aat dye pany did not seek to make profit by their o i r;of deputation that had waited on the Cha t • 0 111 Exchequer entreated him to look at the q ue : tie rsin s ; national one, and then to consider whether t.,,, e he ir cat e , company's offer would not be the cheapest . 10 1 '; had been over and over again rejected by ,it on h i t ralty. The G ov e rnmen t was pluming It h ee l our saving of 5,0001. on the contract, bu t com et to recollect it was save d by re t a rding 01, nication between L on d on an d Dublin. T i he °d ment had taken a d vantage o f t h e m ania a i get ( 4 .- road world, to pr ess severe l y on the n e the 'ls Holyhead Rail wa y. They had frankly to" c on vernment that they would not colare en f ee oo o / i o v o: works unless they obtained an assurance h the mails between Dublin and Holyhead. v"" ~,•0 0 0 .4 vernment had taken advantage of the Pe P O Vat company then having a Bill before ParlialDent l og I , them down to th e sum o f 30,0001. The ne i l tb e abee in the affair of the Brit annia -b r id ge . Title 10 1 " b ei the engineer, had a t fi rs t p ropose d to cross a l l) means of an arched bridge, but the Adn 3 ift i f fe ll re, f/1 0 . 1 1 in, and said, " Oh, won't allow you to l u., o r sl e h a the navigation in this way; you must cross I '. noia",l or not at all." This was then believed to be i e ll t r e asied but the erection of a tubular bridge was t hey de te r o h n, at an estimated expense of 250,0004 .n.00,v; T t at sum, however, he believed it would cost'in, be company had said, over and over se f r they did not want to ma ke 'l° any pro fl oe rying the mail; all they wanted was to be s{etit do it for the bare cost. Their desir e rid au bet" been all along to make the comm unaicati°llibm,bd London and Dublin in the most rapid way Pt' s % O' . in furtherance of that object they had built lilt; ye s'i were now doing their work in awa which a oel a ago it would have been thought im y ossible. thing the Government had said P that thei - r bow undertake to lay out 200,000/. in constructing II :0 11 0 1 1 o va l es of refuge at Holyhead. When the corr „mit 0 lative to that harbour came before the Liel; beg would be found that that which was M e t': is: invitation was much more—asort O f 3 :O P LOPU' S. : IIIv i was not accusing the Government of doingLaja 0 01 0 that was unjust ; but he thought it bad not u e '„stio D a, helping hand to the company in that great undertaking, which, as lied been obserou' 1f of „, perhaps, in a few days be laid do n as grounds for doing away with the Lo rd-Liou'-ilil br Ireland.—(Hear.) ltd+ The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECP B 6e ; thought it would be more convenient for the li s ° o lj l postpone a good deal of what had been said on that postpone cutsion until they went into the pr posed C°' for (Hear.) He would only trespass o o n the 11°° :: sentence or two. A great part of these tr the --9° rap e d which had been referred to had taken plac e e f i v ib ago. The whole of th e arrangements with ce office had been made,_ not during the exist en : present Government, but the former one.--(D tie b leg a trl Would it not be far better, th en , that so t should be entered into before the Committecailit'oeVai the present Government should not be 0b1ige e „,"4 4 , 13 " into explanations of matters with which ti 3e ti, 14 '6,t acquainted.—(Hear.) He would appeal to P";lif Friend, when he said that nothing had been d °ll , - Llis . ) present Government, whether he was not 1 09 ' 1 , 1 ;" One t a a h r d as any transactions between himself (Sir "i'dlo ed the company in question were concereetbielill had paid the company, which he might ha ve ,...ad - Y i bl d doing (as the Right Hon. Baronet was underaw — L. o i /.4 abstained from asking them for money, have demanded.—(Hear, h which at l• er advisable, however, that ' the e s a e r. ltat H em e en t t h s etj a; a c° , ° :r t statements should be reserved for the 01° the whole question could be fully goneCrinto.„rober, pit° Mr. H. HERBERT begged, as an Irish ca` m ite „It tender his best thanks to the Hon. Baronet opP — o f ofr having brought forward a subject which iv,L is o ti great importance to Ireland. Sir R. BULKELEY e ,in briefly r °h f t ts that he had moved, befor e E aster , for certain Ptird bell' connexion with the present q ues ti on , which WI:, et told would not take five m i nutes to Prepare. ae"' had not been furnished up to that moment. haell, l os Mr. COWPER said the p a p ers were iu the it the printer, and would be on the table very seta sat Hon. Baronet had seen them, he would have hri a n making some of the observ a ti ons w hi c h he had sir, P. The motion was then formally p u t f ro m the agrc ed to. bi MOTIONS. iur ober s ho is The SPEAKER called on severa l H on . w- e o f t name who had notices on the paper, but 1 100 mentioned answered. 04 'O l 11 61 There seemed to b e an understanding' 00,„° the House to av o id en t er i ng upon any Ws"- ,00 might lead to a prolonged discussion. ORDERS. dia The orders of the day were th en ca ll e d on. The Committee on the Wood used in SNP Bill was postponed. co ls ' e The Beuetices in Plur a lity Bill as amended'w p ot 0 sidered, read a second time, and ordered to be V 11 , 3 0 1 11 ° 1 The Committee on the Elections (I r elsow., del l understood to be po s tp one d unt il to-morrow (Ltb,ll-risP The House then adj ourne d, am id some eu`" near Half-past Eight o'clock. z -ETS' RAILWAY SHARE MARA r — 0 .4 BRISTOL, MAY 7. ap p 1/3 IV sa to STOCK EXCHANGE.—The market again Pr.e s ,,, g o„ r ie activity, after a lung period of depression, and prices &0 Y,40 have improved. The business today, hovrever , " o d ( P ej o cipally confined to the shares of the Midland a 1y04 j .4 Western Companies, and the closing price of GreA,A C' Quarter Shares was 13 3-16 c.—Ditto, 17/. Midland (501.) 233 c. dis. all MANCHESTER, MAT 7. (1011Ln STOCK EXCHANGE. Our share market was „ ,-„vp and the amount of business done has been ye r i 'o'oo „ an ~t but there is a slight advance in prices. The f l io o ' Shares , v were as follow:—Lancashire and Yorkshire, 35 —D: — :' tiliv o ti lON, dis.—Ditto, Halves, 17—Ditto (West Ric"' best 40% -dap 6 s li o o 9 3-16 dis.—Ditto (Preston and Wyre), re ) Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Grimsby (50/. Sha- Q i nroP u—nDiointtso:4ll42/d. dis. Shares, lih —Ditto, 3 1- 1 6---w dAP BIRMINGHAM MAY 7. n. fi 0 ., t h e; or l STOCK EXCHANGE.—The share mar k et w... , r v tle.-.„0 but there were few transactions on the Stock -" l ferj London and North-Westerns as well as Great ~. Or' were a trifle better, and, generally speaking, railway looked up. YORK, MAY 6. mer e sit4o STOCK EXCHANGE.—The transactions A fow :—Great Northern, 5/. 18 s . 9d.—Y or k and Nord [and, 15—Ditto, Preference, 6%. GLASGOW, MAY 6. ift o/ STOCK EXCHANGE.— The o n ly t ransac ti on to de Glasgow, Kilmarnock. and Ayr, 43L/9. ttesemeEmetemmimmorg to , t - of [ADVERTISEMENT.] A Remarkable "( e l Dropsy of the Chest by Holloway's Pills.—Extract i td, Or • from Mr. Munday, farmer, Kennington , near 0% 0 ; 1 4 I s e Dec. 2, 1848 :—To Professor Holloway% Sir ,-01 ;* ' l OO former occasion apprised you of an extraordinary e lest o t myself by your invaluable medicine, it gives me grer t i;e to testify again to its efficacy in a case of dropsy °' , o ro j e:4o with which my shepherd was afflicted, te whom, ti le 0 0 '1 was informed of the nature of his complaint, I recoos le ts trial of your Pills, which advice was adopted with e cni lregh ye t cess, for by taking a few boxes only he was perfectliffro 9/ is now in sound health.—S o ld by a ll D rugg i sts ,ania. 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