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AILWAY COMMITTEES (YESTERDAY.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The Committee on Standing Orders' commenced its sittings this day at twelve o'clock, Lord Shaftesbury, Chairman. The Committee, at five o'clock, declared that the standing orders of the following Bills had been complied with :—The Brighton, Le'ves, and Hastings Railway (Keymere branch), and the Belfast ao.d Ballymena Railway. COMMITTEE ON UNOPPOSED RAILWAY BILLS. The Standing Orders Committee having resolved itself into a Committee on Bills, their Lordships took the following cases The Dunstable, Birmingham, and London Railway Bill, the York and Scarborough (Deviation) Railway Bill, and the Whitby and "Pickerington Railway Bill. The Bills, being unopposed, were declared to have gone through Committee. The Scottish Central Railway Bill was called on, and after opening the proceedings, the case was adjourned to twelve o'clock au Monday. The Committee adjourned at half.past six o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS. GROUP A. SOUTH-EASTERN LINE. The Committee met at the usual hour this morning, when Mr. MERREVIETHER proceeded with the examination of Mr. Bidders, who gave evidence in reference to the manner in which it was intended that this line should avoid danger from passing near Messrs. Hall's powder mills. It had been in tended to pass within 300 yards of the powder-mills, but on the representation of Messrs. Hall, the design had been altered so that the distance from the line to the nearest part of the works would be 580 yards. Mr. Bidders then spoke as to some occurrences at a public meeting at Faversham, at which this subject had bees discussed. The two lines, the South-Eastern and North Kent, - passed from Faversham to Chilham. Mr. Bidders then pointed out an objection to the extension of the North Kent line from Canterbury to Dover proposed by Mr. Vignolles. At Canterbury the North Kent line formed an angle, which was almost a right angle, so that the distance from Chilham to Dover would be much greater than it need be, the only argument in favour of this mode of passage to Dover being the saving of distance. Mr. Bidders then stated that there was an error in Mr. Vignolles' statement of the gradients necessary on the North Kent line, which could not be remedied without aw alteration in the direction of the line, and this could not be made within the limits of deviation. The witness then pro. .ceeded to several points of difference between the two lines, which were mostly uninteresting to the public. Mr. Bidder pointed out several inaccuracies in Mr. Vignolles' 'estimates, which he said were insufficient. He also pointed out • the superiority of the South-Eastern line in this respect. Mr. Vignolles' estimate of the total expense of the North Kent line was 1,249,7491., whereas the actual expense would be, according to calculations made by him, 1,970,9341., the estimate of the total expense of the South-Eastern line being 2,160,2211. Mr. Cocicatnot here said, in order to avoid the confuaion which - would ensue if the witness were examined with regard to the London and Croydon line, at the same time that he was examined - with reference to the North Kent line, it was proposed to obtain a body of evidence against the latter, and then to recal the wit. limes for the purpose of obtaining another body of evidence against the former. Mr. MILLAR and Mr. AUSTIN objected, on the part of the Lon don and Croydon Company, to this course, on the grovnd that it would occasion loss of time, as it would cause the witnesses to be examined twice on the same subjects. Mr. Sergeant SHEA objected to the course proposed by Mr. Cockburn. After a short discussion the Committee decided against the se. parate investigation of subjects connected with the two lines. Mr. MEIMEWETHEIL was then proceeding to ask some questions of Mr. Bidders concerning the applicability of the atmospheric principle as to locomotion, when Mr. AUSTIN objected to the examination of witnesses as to the principle. Mr. Merrewether could not ask any questions of the witnesses against the principle, except as regards this particular line and the particular localities through which it passed. Mr. MERRIWETHER insisted on his right to examine the wit messes on this point. After some discussion it was agreed to adjourn the argument to-morrow. The CHAIRMAN then proposed that the Committee should meet tomorrow at eleven. Mr. Austin, Mr. Millar, Mr. Alexander, Mr. Sergeant Shea, and Mr. Merrewether, requested that the Committee might adjourn till twelve. Mr. ALEXANDER said that that hour was sufficiently early, and that an earlier meeting would cause great inconvenience to himself and his Learned Friends. They were all agreed on this subject, and hoped the Committee would encourage their harmony. The Committee accordingly adjourned till to-morrow, at twelve. GROUP FF. ran-rninraGs AND DIRECT NORTHERN. The Committee met to-day at the usual hour, Lord Ashley in the chair, when the clauses of the Bill were entered into. Several clauses, cfter ♦erbal amendments. were agreed to. On the clause relative to the terminus on the South Inch at Werth being read, a discussion arose between Counsel as to the pro. priety of postponing the clause till such time as the Board of Trade had given its decision respecting the most eligible site for a Leneral terminus. The room was then cleared for a division. On our return, The CHAIRMAN intimated, that the Committee had decided to refer the question of terminus, as had been done with other lines terminating in Perth, to the Board of Trade. The Committee further required that the construction of the Sine should not be carried into Perth beyond the point at which it crossed the Scottish Central Railway, until such time as the Board of Trade had given their decision, and the Lord Provost and town council had given their approbation for the occupation of the South Inch, in case it might be fixed upon for a terminus. With the exception of amending the Bill, by the introduction of clauses to the previous effect, and to increase the capital from 550,0001. to 650,0001., so as to meet the extra expense of a double line, no other material alterations were made in the clauses, the 'whole of which, after being read, were agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be reported to the House. This terminated the business of the group. SCOTCH RAILWAYS. GROUP GG. GLASGOW JUNCTION RAILWAY. The Committee, consisting of Mr. Evans, Chairman ; Mr. Nunts, Mr. Newdegate, Mr. Miles, and Viscount Grimston, sat tt his morning at eleven o'clock, in the Sessions-house. Mr. Lockhart, M.P. for the county of Lanark, examined by Mr. Fergeant TALFOCRD—The universal feeling in Glasgow, and more particularly in the parish of Govan, consisting of 60,000 iahabi_ rants, was against the project. He considered that the line Traversing the city of Glasgow by viaduct would greatly injure the beauty of the city, and any bridge over the Clyde would certainly injure the property there. Argyle_ street, certainly one of the finest streets in Europe, would be very greatly deteriorated, and to any resident of that street the viaduct would be a great eyesore. He had known accidents arising from such viaducts, one for instance in Tradeston, where a respectable firmer from the parish of Govan, in charge of a horse and cart, had been killed in consequence of his horse taking fright from the noise of the railway engine Cross-examined by Mr. TALBOT—He had seen the bridge of •!ghs, but thought that a bridge which would ornament a canal would ruin a public street. Mr. Walker, civil engineer, was examined by Mr. Ausefar— Ead been acquainted with Glasgow for the last forty years, a great portion of which time he had been consulting engineer for the River and Bridge Trustees. He had been called as a witness in all the Acts of Parliament which authorised the improvement of the Clyde, and he had no hesitation in saying that no river in Europe had been so improved within the same period as the Clyde had been. That portion of the harbour which was intended to be occupied by the piers of the proposed bridge over the Clyde WAS most valuable, because that part of the harbour being the narrowest, and the whole traffic there finding its outlet, any diminution of it would be most disadvantageous. He was aware that it was intended to cross Argyle street 4certainly one of the finest in Europe) by means of a viaduct. He understood that it was intended to mask the engines in passing along it, and that would require a screen of at least ten feet. This would be, in tacr, al, impervious wall to any view from east to west, and would quite destroy the beauty of the street. He knew, also, that it was Intended to lay rails upon the quay, and if these were intended for a coal trade, he thought it would be most objectionable, because the strings of waggons would completely obstruct the traffic of the harbour. There could be no analogy between the rails on the quays of Hull and Liverpool, and the proposed ones at Glasgow, because in the former cases the passenger trade was separate from the goods traffic, which could not be in the latter case. With refe.. rence to the effect which the screen would have in deadening the noise, he was of opinion that the effect would be very little indeed. The witness then described his proposed line of junction, which, passing to the eastward of the city, thus crossed the streets, and formed a junction with the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway, to the northward of Glasgow. The witness was cross-examined by Mr. HILDYARD, but without eliciting any additional facts. Mr. Errington, C.E., had heard Mr. Walker's evidence, and perfectly agreed with him in his objections to the proposed line. This finished the case for the Clyde trustees. Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM then addressed the Committee on be half of Mr. Campbell, of Blytheswood, and the feuars on his estate. Mr. John Campbell Douglas was called to speak to the damage done to the estate by the proposed line. I The Committee adjourned at five o'clock. GROUP K. DEREHAM AND NORWICH RAILWAY. The Committee on the lines for affording railway accommoda tit ,n to these districts, continued this morning by the resumption of evidence on the Deretiam and Norwich Direct project. Mr. Chamberlayne, examined by Mr. J•MES—Is a very exten sity e woollen dealer, resident at Norwich, trading to an amount of be I:veen 100,0001. and 120,0001. annually ; the majority of goods, er at least to the amount of 60,0001 , is obtained from Huddersfield. Ti , rkshire, and the north, the cost for transit from the former place be mg 50s. per ton, and the average 555. per ton. 1,000/. a year la expended by his firm in getting goods to Norwich, one-third of Co ming via Yarmouth from London. The great amount of the ex erisive trade carried on in the districts contiguous to Norwich, fin , Is its way among the towns through which the Direct East bet chain and Norwich line will pass. Last Saturday, more than 1,1 00 customers visited his shop and warehouse, a vast proporti m of whom were country people residing in the vicinity of that line, but no trade of any moment is carried on between Wyndham and No rwicb, or with any town situate on the diverging line. The fah abitants of Norwich are unanimous►y in favour of the direct lint , ; and at a public meeting passed a vote confirmatory of that pre ,jeet. .Cross.examined by Mr. ANDREWS, Q.C.—Norwich is the great stay, ital of the north-eastern districts, and the chief motive of the tra.lesmen of that town opposing the indirect, line through Wynd har n to Dereham is their wish to retain the present extensive trade to Lhernelves, and excluding it from Lynn. :By Lord S&NDON—Does not think that the adoption of either Sine would materially decrease the number of 1,100 customers, who attend his shop on the market day. By Mr. COBDEN—The object of the people of Norwich preferring the direct to the diverging line, is both to accommodate the northern pply districts.to Norwi ch and to get the co nsumption of those parts directed for su . Mr. Richard Buller, examined by Mr. JAMES-11 member of the firm of Buller and Walds, brewers, maltsters, and corolactors at Norwich. The business has been carried on for the last thirty. seven years, during the last fifteen of which witness has been con neced with it. Upwards of 30,000 quarters of corn, and 3,000 tows of coal are annually imported by the firm at Norwich. 17!,453 tons of coal come into Yarmouth annually, but does not knew the amount imported at Norwich, but should imagine about 410,000 or 60,000 tons a year arc con Fumed at the latter town. If the Direct East Dereham and Norwich line were completed, coals could be carried from Yarmouth to Dereham for 2s. 6d. a ton; the price from Yarmouth to Norwich being Is., and the pro posed rate by rail from Norwich to Dereham, Is. tid. a ton. At present the coal from Yarmouth is either carried by canal h a nersei a t. D g u r r e i a n t g c t or ,e p s e e: or the Yarmouth and Norwich Railway. There of T tr Winn existing between the two m were frost last winter the water navigation was closed, when the rail way immediately raised their traffic f a res, and caused great in. convenience to the districts. The cons truction of the Direct East (Dereham line would, in all probability, prolong that competition, and thus afford a cheaper means of conveyance between Yarmouth and Dereham and Norwich. -• sir. Ricardo expressed an opinion, that the line by Wyndham would be just as likely to compete with the water navigation be:ween Yarmouth and Norwich as the direct line to Derehani, both being `,dependent pro;ects from Norwich. Cross-examined by:Mr. ANDREWS, Q. C.—The charge of 2s. 6d. a ton from Yarmouth to Dereham would not include delivery at the door, the present price at Norwich for cartage being fts. 6d., be. sides the cost of conveyance by rail. Knows a bridge called the Foundry.bridge at Norwich, which ships coming from New castle could not pass; they would, therefore, be obliged to unship their cargoes below that point and transfer them to lighters. Did not think the coal would be much deteriorated by such frequent changes. Believes the terminus of the line to Dereham, via Wynd ham, is to be situated below the Foundry-bridge, and will, therefore, avoid the necessity of transhipment. Mr. Liddellow, examined by Mr. CALVERT, is a cattle dealer of Colney, a town situate a few miles from Norwich. During the years 1838, 1839, and 1840, he was toll-collector at the Norwich market. During the year 1840, 300,000 sheep, paying a toll of Bd. a score, passed for sale to Norwich; 400 pigs, paying a toll of 10d. a score, and 30 horses, paying 2id., pass weekly to the same market. The circuitous line from Dereham, through Wyndham, would not confer the slightest benefit on Norwich, but the direct rail was calculated to be very advantageous to that town. Mr. Thomas Burney, examined by Mr. CALVERT—IS proprietor of Morton Hall, an estate comprising 5,000 acres, in the neighbour. hood of Attlebridge, and considers the circuitous line by Wyndham to Dereham would confer no advantages whatever on the dis tricts north of the river Waveney, while the direct line, by becoming a feeder to the traffic existing in those parts, would be highly beneficial. The terminus of the former line at Norwich would be most objectionably situated for the cattle, from their being turned out at the foot of a steep hill, which they would have to ascend in order to reach the market ; and to the passengers from their being obliged to pass through the cattle market, when ar riving at Norwich, before they could enter the town. Cross-examined by Mr. GIRDER—Did net think either the Heldesdon mills, or the inhahitants) of Costessey, Taverham, Kingland, Morton, Weston, Attlebridge, Aldetford, Great or Little Witchen law would avail themselves of the Directi East Dereham line, though in all probability the proprietors of paper and flour mills in those districts would make use of them.) John Barber, examined by Mr. CALVERT—IS an extensive grocer residing at Norwich, and thinks that that town supplies to Suffolk, Norfolk, and Lincolnshire, more than 9-10ths of the grocery consumed in those counties, as well as the great proportion of that used at Lynn. Upwards of fifty tons of cheese and a similarly large amount of salt is passed annually by him into the adjacent districts. Mr. William Wilde, examined by Mr. CALVERT-11 an auc. tioneer, stover, and dyer, resident at Norwich, having a branch manufactory at Manchester, conducted by his son. The direct line would unquestionably confer greater advantages than the diverging rail to Dereham. Neither of the latter witnesses were cross-examined by the pro moters of the line through Wyndham, and at four o'clock the Committee adjourned till eleven o'clock tomorrow. GROUP KK with one or two landholders on the line, and consequently their op.. position was withdrawn. The Committee then ordered the room to be cleared, and after remaining in consultation for upwards of half an hour, strangers were re-admitted, when— The CHAIRMAN intimated that the Committee were unani mously of opinion that the preamble was proved so far as it reified to the trunk line, the line to terminate on the south o Long Eaton and north of Pye-bridge. The preamble was also proved, as regarded the branches running to Ilkeston and Heanor, respectively ; but it was not proved in regard to the other branches. The Committee, at the same time, wished the preamble to be amended accordingly, and a clause introduced into the Bill re serving to the landholders the power of crossing over or under the course of the railroad to the canal. Mr. MACAULAY asked if the Committee intended to authorise the extension of the line to the Mansfield and Pinxton Railway ? The CHAIRMAN replied in the negative, and reminded the Learned Counsel that, in coming to a decision on the point of ter minus, the Committee had been guided by a desire not to give one colliery an advantage over another. The remainder of the day was occupied in considering the various clauses in the Bill, which, after considerable discussion, were agreed to with amendments. A clause was introduced giving the colliers power to make the negatived branch, and the Company power to make bridges across the canal to accommodate such branches. The Chairman was then directed to report the Bill favourably to the House, and the Committee adjourned till Monday GROUP X. CAMBRIDGE AND LINCOLN LINE. ENGINEERING EVIDENCE ON THE AMENDED SECTION. At the sitting of the Committee this day, Mr. Rendall was called, and deposed to the amendments made in the section on that past of the line where an error was disco. vered to have been made in the levels, namely, at a distance of 16 miles from Cambridge towards Lincoln. In answer to the question, he said that when he accepted of the appointment as engineer to the line, in April last, he requested to be made acquainted with any errors that might exist in the sections, for if there were any that would render it difficult to make the line he would have nothing to do with it ; the section as amended was that deposited in the Private Bill office, and he made use ef a copy of the section so amended. Did not in any way make use of that sec. tion, so amended in his evidence before the Committee in his exa mination in chief. The amended section exhibited a compensation for the loss of level of 10 feet at the distance of 16 miles 1 furlong from Cambridge, by a horizontal plane of 3 furlongs 11 chains and a descending gradient of 7 furlongs and 51 chains, in a gradient of 1 in 215, which made up for the error of ten feet leas of level at this particular point; up to that point the original section and the amended section are identical. The witness then produced a model of the section, by which he showed, that in order to amend the error, and bring the line from the point where the error commenced, the whole way on to Lincoln, to a level with the line, of sixteen miles from Cam bridge, he proposed to raise the whole surface of the country ten feet. In answer to some other questions, as to more minute de tails, the witness said, his belief was, that not one section in three deposited would be found to be so correct as to stand the test of the scrutinising examination the counsel was now putting him through. He conceived it was wasting the time of the Committee to be putting questions to him which could be more satisfactorily answered by those who made the survey, and who were then in the room, waiting to be examined as witnesses. Mr. TRIPP examined the witness on behalf of Mr. Pemberton, with a view of ascertaining how it was proposed to save the mea dows from inundation by the River Cam, at Chesterton, where it was proposed to build a bridge. The witness said it was to be done by embankments, varying in height in accordance with the surface of the country. The witness was re-examined at some length by Mr. WEBSTER, with a view to show that Mr. Rendal had received the appoint ment of engineer to tLis line so recently that he had not had time to ascertain whether any error existed or not in the sections. Mr. R. Stephenson, engineer —Had heard Mr. Rendal's evidence, and he (Mr. Stephenson) would say that he agreed with him (Mr. Rendal) in every particular, and could see no difficulty whatever in earrying out the project, notwithstanding the error. An error of the same kind occurred on the London and Birmingham Railway in thedatum line, which was a mere imaginary line, and had nothing whatever to do with the works. To Mr. Sergeant KINGLAILE—The correction of the error would at all events cause an alteration in the works where the error oc. curred. To the CommirrEE—A line of railway was never laid down with reference to the datum line, but with reference to the gradients ; the datum line was a mere imaginary one. Mr. Bazolgette, engineer— When the section was deposited, he was not aware of any error except the omission of marking the radius in two certain curves ; it was only on summing up the books that . _. . the error now in question first came to his knowledge. To Mr. Sergeant KINGSLARE—It was after the section had been deposited that witness had heard rumours of the error of ten feet. Cannot say how soon after, but it was a very short tine. Will not say from whom he had heard these rumours, as that was a matter of confidence. Witness will now abide by the amended section, and believes the rest of that section to be correct. It was Mr. Thompson who took the level at the point where the error was alleged to exist, and he was accountable for it. Mr. HILDTARD conceived that this was all evidence that should only have been gone into before the Committee on Standing Orders, but, however, he would let it go on. The CHAIRMAN presumed that this line of cross-examination would not be persevered in, unless with a •iew to ground some point on which the opposing counsel intended to rely as objections to the line being made at all. Mr. HILDTARD read the standing order, showing that it was only before the Standing Orders Committee that such evidence as this could be given. Mr. Sergeant KINGLLER contended he was in order in this line of cross.examination, inasmuch as his Learned Friend opposite was now examining his witnesses upon an amended section, which had never been before the Standing Orders Committee. He (Mr. Sergeant Kinglake) sail he would at mace state his object in fol lowing up this line of cross-examination—it was this, to show that there were inaccuracies all along the line, and that, therefore, Mr. Rendal was not correct in saying that this was the only error. The CHAIRMAN asked the Learned Sergeant if his object was to contend that those inaccuracies were such as would be sufficient to prevent the line being made P Mr. Sergeant KINGLAKE said that would depend on the extent of the inaccuracies which they should establish. Mr. HILDYARD—If that were the object of the Learned Sergeant he (Mr. Hildyard) did think that nothing could be farther from it than the frivolous questions put to the witnesses. The Committee then retired to consider whether they would per mit this course to be persevered in, and after a short absence returned, when The CHAIRMAN announced that he had been instructed by the Committee to state that the witness under cross-examination by Mr. Sergeant Kinglake having been called by Mr. Hildyard, the cross. examination should be proceeded with. Mr. Sergeant KINGLIKE said he would endeavour to shorten the cross-examination as much as possible by resorting to figures. He then asked the witness as to the state of levels from the 2.lst mile to the 22d mile 7 furlongs ?—At that part there was a differ ence between the original and the amended section of two feet. At 62 miles 5 furlongs the height of the ground by the original section was 69 feet. By the amended one it was 75 feet; that was a cutting of eleven feet deep. At the 81st mile the original level was 48 feet between the sth and 6th furlong; by the amended section it was 58 feet. Mr. Thompson, engineer, deposed to having discovered the error in question. Cross-examined—lle discovered it first about January or February last. Went over the ground again with another person for the purpose of correcting the errors; after doing so he found the inaccuracy at the point sixteen miles from Cambridge, already spoken of, and nothing more. A witness was next - examined as to the traffic to the town of St. [yes, after which the Committee adjourned. GROUP Z. THE DUBLIN AND GALWAY LINE. At the sitting of the Committee, Mr. Lynch, formerly a breerer at Galway, whose evidence was not concluded at the rising of the Committee last evening, was recalled, and examined by Mr. TAYLOR—He stated that the cost of conveying a ton of Lliz.r or of ordinary shop goods from Dublin to Ballinasloe by canal was 205., or 21d. per mile the land carriage from Ballinasloe to Galway was sd. or 6d. per ton per mile. Ihe imports to Gal way during the last year amounted to 17,18'2 tons, besides such articles as wine, dried herrings, tobacco, tea, and sugar. in round numbers the imports amounted to 18,000 tons. The exports during the same period were 2 6,6031 tens. From the reports of the Railway Commissioners, in 1830, it appeared that the imports in that year were 12,000, and the exports 20,000 tons, showing an increase in 1844 of 50 per cent. on the one and 30 per cent, on the other. If there were a railway from Galway to Dublin both would be greatly increased—the imports immediately, and in a little time the exports would also be greatly increased. There are two marble quarries in the vicinity of Galway, the black marble raised in which is of a superior quality. One thousanal tons were raised in 1838. It is conveyed to Galway, where it is worked into chimney pieces, &c., from which a great portion of it would be transmitted to Dublin, by railway instead of by sea. Two hundred fairs were held in the county of Galway during the year. Ile had taken pains to ascertain the number held within tour or five miles of the proposed line, and found them to be eighty. A certain portion of the cattle, horses, pigs; sold at these fairs would go by the line. The railway would offer great facilities to those transacting business at these fairs. Galway and Ross common are breeding counties, and cattle are sent to Dublin, Meath, and Kildare, for the purpose of being fatted for the English market. The fisheries at Galway are of an important character, about 500 boats being engaged in the trade. The cost of transmitting a ton of fish to Dublin by the mail was 181. 13s. 4d.; by the line it would be considerably less. The fisheries could be greatly extended. The trade in seaweed, which was highly valued by the poorer classes as manure, especially for potatoes, was con. siderable, as many as 5,000 boats, carrying about three tons each, being engaged in connexion with it. To witnesses and others coming to the assizes in Galway, and to those coming to the markets, of which there were two a week, the railway would offer great advantages. Mr. Martin. 31. P. for the county of Galway, said he had in terested himself in the fishing trade of Galway, in which occupa tion many of his tenants were engaged. Taking the average earnings of the iioo boats engaged in the trade at 351., the total would be 17,5001. The total earnings of the whole of the beats could not be less than 30,0001. Cod, ling, pollock, turbot, and salmon, from the rivers, abounded in large quantities. There were also lobster and oyster fisheries. The evidence of the Hon. Mem ber went to show that the proposed railway would offer great faci. lities to the population and to the extensive trade carried on. Mr. 31`Lachlin, formerly M.P. for the borough of Galway, and one of the harbour and town commissioners of that town, and well avquainted with its trade, considered that a railway would be of great advantage to the county. Mr. N. Williams was well acquainted with the steam navigation of the channel, which was now in the course of improvement. The railway would be of great service to the trade of the channel and to the interior of Ireland, that manufactures would be Introduced into remote parts, and that it would give employment to a great mass of the industrial population. The canal was wholly inadequate for the trade, and was badly managed. The sympathy of the inhabi tants was certainly not with the canal, but with the proposed line, besides a great portion of the goods went by land conveyance. Admiral le Poet* French, residing at Ballinasloe, and holding the ancient office of " Baron of the Fairs" in that part of the county, uncle of Lord Clancarty, and having charge of his estates at Bal litiasloe, the population of which is 5,000, said there were two fairs yearly there, one in May and the other in October ; the October fair was the largest fair in the world for cattle and sheep. The bay of Galway could accommodate ships of any size. The Cashel Railway was nothing more than a trunk line. The proposed line would be of great benefit to the trade. Could not understand how any one could ask the question, whether the proposed line could be of advantage to the county ? Mr. AUSTIN—WouId you like to see a gentleman who entertains such a doubt? Witness—lndeed I should,—(Laughter.) Put him up and examine him.—(Roars of laughter.) The Rev. D. Arcy, vicar of St. Nicholas parish, Galway, proved that in the event of the construction of a railway, mills would be called into existence, the water power in the lake and canals in the county being considerable ; that the fisheries would be greatly im proved, as also the trade generally. The great difficulty at present of finding a market for the produce of the town would be removed, as improved means of transit would be obtained. A railway was the best, perhaps the only means, of developing the industry of the county, and of calling into existence the energies of the unem ployed. By Mr. Rowe — Anticipated immense passenger traffic from Galway and other towns on the route. Mr. D. Vernon, High sheriff of the county of Galway, and Mr. H. C. Hancock, of Athlone, were in favour of the line. Lord CLaNcaaTir thought there could not be a question as to the utility of the project. There was an unanimity of feeling in favour of it against the landowners of the county. The present internal c ommunication was most imperfect. which he was of opinion would be remedied by the line. He looked upon the project THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY MORNING, JUNE 14, 1845. in a national point of view, and considered that the benefits which would accrue to the country would he very great. Mr. Brown gave evidence with respect to the traffic tables. The Committee then adjourned until Monday. GROUP L. PORTSMOUTH .TMOSPHERXC MINE. The Committee on this group resumed this mornleig—Mr. E B. Denison in the chair—when Mr. Alexander, on behalf of the pro. rooters, called Mr. Gibbons, engineer of the Dublin and King stown Railway, and also: of the Dublin and Dalkey Atmospheric Railway, which line he had laid out. On this railway, which wasa mile and five-eighths long, the worst gradient was 1 in 57, but over this the engines were able to carry trains of 40 tons, at a rate of 45 miles an hour, without any extra power. The sharpest curve was one of a radius of 527 feet. The railway had completely answered all the expectations of its projectors, and as he .vas con nected with the locomotive line between Kingston and Dublin, he had fully tested the respective merits of both plans, and he decidedly preferred the atmospheric. On that principle there was not only no necessity for sending the monster trains, but there were no petty annoyances either from noise or smoke. The trains could be sent with as pinch frequency as was desired without any chance of collision. The line bad been opened ever since the autumn of 1843. The tube was a fifteen. inch one, and supplied all the convenience that was requisite. He had seen the Direct Portsmouth line, and believed it to he a highly satisfactory one, and one which would answer all the expectations of the promoters. A great saving was eff •cted in the preservation of the permanent way; indeed, in the Dalkey line during the last year there was no expense whatever, except the laying down several new rails. The piston carriage altogether passed over 3,050 yards each journey during 15 hours in the day, the trains running every quarter of an hour, two sets of men being employed so as to enable them to relieve each other. The trains were carried from one end to the other by the stationary engines, and returned by the force of gravity alone. The average number of the carriages on the atmospheric railway was 3.75, carrying a weight of 18 tons ; on the locomotive line there were 7i carriages, with a weight of 38 tons. The gradients on the line were-1 in 100, for 160 yards ; 1 in 104, for 215 yards; 1 in 115, for 770 yards ; 1 in 131, for 280 yards ; 1 in 166, for 610 yards ; 1 in 218, for 170 yards ; and lin 328, for 390 yards. The expenses during the eleven months from March in last year to February in this,were— for coals, 467/. Os. 3d. ; for engines, 3521. ss. 6d. ; for oil, 43/. Os. 4d. ; for mechanics, 1971. 3s. 4d. ; and for materials, 1271. 125.; cost of engineer, 1271. 12s. The cost of coals was from 310. to 38s. a ton, and coke 165., but these prices were the result of a deficient market. The atmospheric railway could carry sixty, tons with as much ease as the locomotive could carry twenty tons. Mr. Cubitt stated on Thursday that the difference between the gradient of 1 in 80 and 1 in 100 was as an 18-inch tube was to a 15-inch tube. But in this he was wrong, for it really was as 2,240 divided by 80, and the same number divided by 100. The results therefore were, that while it required a tractive power of 281b5., that required for 1 in 100 gradient was 22 1 Albs. The difference between the 18. inch tube and the 15-inch tube was as the squares of their diameters, the area of the former being 245 cubic inches, and that of the latter 176—50 that the respective powers of the two tubes was as 176 is to 254. He had laid down the tube on the Croydon line, and he was satisfied that the wear and tear on that line would be much less than that en the Dalkey line. With respect to the power to work a single tube line both ways lie was perfectiy satis fied that it might be done. On the Dalkey line they could hear the first blow of the pumping-engine at the ether end. As soon as this was heard the vacuum was evidently beginning to he formed. On that line there was a barometer con nected with the tube, and as simultaneously as the eye could ob serve the sound of the blow of the pump and the fall in the mercury was perceived. He thought that the safety of the atmospheric prin ciple was much greater than that of the locomotive, for most of the accidents on the latter occurred at the stations, at which places the atmospheric trains were quite out of the way of each other,and lie believed that a train might start with perfect safety every hour from each end on the Portsmouth line. Indeed, in his opinion, there was no need for a double line, unless the traffic were as numerous as that of the omnibuses between the Bank And Piccadilly. The shares of the Dalkey line had so increased in value in conse quence of the facilities given to the citizens of Dublin for getting into the country and back, that those which, four years ago, were at 70/., could now be quoted at 250/., and were not to be had even at that price. In his opinion, the formation of a double atmospheric line would be a mere waste of expense. The engineering staff for each train was three, one of which was a breaksman. The object of the break was to stop the wheels, by rendering that a sliding motion which before was a rolling one. The engineering staff, in deed, was less than on a locomotive line, for the man at the engine station acted for all the trains during the day. Mr. Brunel had looked at the sections, and thought them good. He had seen the estimates for the line, and thought the prices quite sufficient. A single line would carry a very large traffic, and he thought that it would certainly serve all the purposes of the traffic on the line. Fifteen trains a day each way, might pass with perfect safety. An 18-inch tube would convey very heavy trains, cf from 40 to 60 tons, 40 or 50 miles an hour with perfect case, and he saw no difficulty whatever in the gradients, for much steeper gra dients might be very easily worked. With a moderate traffic, the expenses would be in favour of the atmospheric line, and the dif ference would be increased as the traffic increased. He was ac quainted with the country to Portsmouth, and he felt assured that trains might be run as often as the public would require, and the cost of working would be not more than 35 per cent. Certainly if the returns were 170,000/. or 180,0001., 35 per cent. would meet all the expenses. He gave these 15 trains to the 14 or 15 hours in the middle of the day, but he thought that on all lines communicating with London there must be night trains, and some of these would, of course, be goods' trains. To Mr. OswaLD—Mr. Brunel stated that the steepest gradient on the South Devon line was 1 in 41 for a distance of four miles, and 1 in 52 on a plane of ten miles. To Mr. MILNES—Mr. Brunel stated that he thought the loco motive principle capable of considerable improvement. To Mr. OSWALD Mr. Brunel) replied, that they had a gradient beyond Swansea, on the South Wales line, of lin 70. They had several gradients of 1 in 60 on the Great Western line, and its branches, which were now aetually worked. He conceived that the application of the atmospheric principle presented nothing more than mechanical difficulties, and would be easily overcome. To Mr. M. MILNES Mr. Brunel stated, that though a locomotive atmospheric engine had not yet been used, nor was it what was termed the atmospheric principle, yet he would not say that it would not be applied. He thought it very unsafe to say anything could not be done, for so many things had been done which it was said could not be done, that he thought it would not be wise to say that anything could not be done. In safety certainly the atmospheric principle was far superior to the locomotive. He thought that in estimating the permanent way they ought to take the original derartments about as equal in the first instance. Mr. Keene, a land-agent and valuer at Godalming for the last twenty-five years, stated that he had looked over the line from Epsom to Portsmouth, and thought that 143,9701. 14s. was a sudicient sum for the land. The traffic from the Petersfield side of the country, through Godalming, was at least four times as much as that from Midhurst and Petworth before the Gosport branch was made. He had presided at two meetings at Godalming, as also of another of the Town Commissioners, at which the bulk of those present were in favour of the Portsmouth Atmospheric line. In his opinion this line was the best, hoecause it was the richest and most populous. There were a great number of mills and manu. factories in it, an it was totally unprovided with water carriage. There were twenty. seven corn-mills and ten paper-mills on the road. He was the tithe apportioner of Godalming, the parish of which contained between 6,000 and 7,000 acres, and was not aware that the bulk of the landowners of Godalming were opposed to the line, though a few, he believed, were so. At present he thought that the traffic on the Midhurst and Petworth road and the Petersfield road were about equal. The Committee then adjourned till Monday at twelve o'clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS, June 13. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. Several petitions were presented against the grant to May. nooth. Lord CAMPBELL blamed the Noble Lord (Lord Broug ham) for raising the question of the reversal of judgment, who, although not a Member of the Government, as far as he knew —( Laughter )—rose up and answered the speech of the Noble Lord who brought forward the motion. One of the principal °Ejections raised was that the jury list had been fraudulently made up, and that the parties could not have had a fair trial. Lord STANLEY said the assertion was made, but it was not proved. Cord CAMPBELL held that it had been proved. The fact was admitted in the demurrer. He referred to the judg. ment of the Learned Judges to show that what he had stated was correct, The LORD CHANCELLOR considered it very painful to enter into a controversy with respect to the judgment of that House in the case of Mr. O'Connell, which was reversed subsequently on technical grounds. He considered that no one could misunderstand this. Saying that the judgment was reversed on technical grounds alone, inferred that they had been acquitted on other grounds, whereas the parties w-re liberated from the punishment to which they were sentenced by a slip in the entering of judgment. He felt confidence in the correctness of his decision, and regretted that any judgment which he had pronounced, after mature deliberation, should be called into question, as he considered it had been. After a few words from Lord DENMAN and Lord BROUGHAM in explanation, Lord STANLEY said, that notwithstanding the discussion that had taken place with respect to the reversal of the judg ment he still held his opinion that it was reversed on the technicalities in the case. He did not understand the speech of the Noble Lord who brought forward the subject, and was of opinion that it would only have the effect of aggravating the feelings of the Irish people towards England, more especially at a time when a better feeling was being promoted between the two countries. He considered that no object would be answered in bringing forward the subject. He denied that the assertion of the Noble Lord with respect to the difficulty of obtaining a fair decision from a jury was true, and considered such an assertion would also aggravate the feelings of the people of Ireland towards England. Politi cal and religilus feeling might in some degree interpose wilh trial by jury, but that was no argument in favour of the abro gation of trial by jury in Ireland. The question of the state of the country must be left to the Executive, who would not fail to see that the law was not violated with impunity. But the Noble Lord had not shown that the state of the country was caused by the neglect of Government. With respect to his quotations from newspapers, the acquittal of a person pro secuted for libel or for violating the law, was looked upon as a triumph, and the person prosecuted as a martyr, and did more injury than could bo easily conceived.—( Hear. ) With regard to the state of the courts of Leitrim the Government had taken every precaution for the protection of the peace, increasing the number of magistrates and police, and he thought they should be able to suppress any of those distur bances without seeking any further powers of their Lordships. With regard to party processions, the Party Processions Act, which had expired, was in every sense of the word one-sided, and was introduced to suppress the dangerous proceedings of the Orange societies, which caused much bloodshed and po litical and religious animosities among the people. ft was not the intention of the Government to renew the Party Processions Act, believing that there was no ocmsion for doing so, as the time, he believed, had gone by when such a law was necessary. The Ea.l of WICKLOW was glad that the Government did not intend to renew that Act, and blamed the Government for renewing the Act last year. The Earl of ST. GERMANS said if they had not done so parties who might have rendered themselves amenable to the law would have escaped punishment. The Marquis of WESTMEATH blamed the Government for not adopting measures which would give greater security for the lives and property of persons in Ireland. At the late assizes at Leitrim great difficulty was experienced in obtrining convictions on account of the prejudices of juries ; in one cape, the murder of Captain M'Lough, the jury was taken from the very class of which the prisoners were members. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE replied, and, after ad verting to the State trials and the reversal of the judgment, concluded by saying that he considered it his duty to bring the state of the county of Leitrim before their Lordships. The subject then dropped. LICENSING TOLL-BARS IN SCOTLAND. The Duke of ROXBURGH presented a petition from Kelso against licensing toll-bars in Scotland for the sale of spirituous liquors. THE TURNPIKES ROAD BILL. This Bill went through Committee. Their Lordships then adjourned. RUSE OF COMMONS, June 13. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY BILL. The Dublin and Drogheda Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. LANCASTER AND CARLISLE RAILWAY. The Lancaster and Carlisle Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. - SHAW'S WATERWORKS BILL. The report on Shaw's Waterworks Bill was brought up, and the amendments were agreed to. GLASGOW, GARNKIRK. AND COATBRIDGE RAILWAY. The report on the Glasgow, Garnkirk and Coatbrid ge Rail way Bill was brought up, and the amendments were agreed to. ABERDEEN RAILWAY. _. The Aberdeen Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. . DUNDEE WATERWORKS. The report on the Dundee Waterworks Bill was brought up, and the amendments were agreed to. SHEFFIELD AND LINCOLNSHIRE JUNCTION RAILWAY BILL. Mr. J. PARKER moved that the Sheffield and Lincolnshire Junction Railway Bill be removed from Group X, and be re ferred to the Committee of Classification. The Bill had been before the Committeee on Group X for seven or eight weeks, and the expense to the parties had already been 2,0001. They had not yet been heard; and, in consequence of the length to which the proceedings in relation to the London and York line had run, there was very little probability of their being heard this session. The railway had been placed in Group X by a mistake of the Committee of Classification. The Committee had imagined that it was a competing line with the London and York, when, in fa c t, th e t wo li nes did not come into competition. Sir R. INGLIS, as Chairman of the Committee of Classi _ . fication, did not appear to defend this Act. Admitting the classification to have been wrong, still this Railway Company had acquiesced n it for seven weeks— had gone before the Committee, and now at the eleventh hour, when perhaps they found that the cross-examination of the witnesses was rather against the scheme, they wished to be removed from the group, and to have all the work done over again. They should, if they had felt they were placed in a wrong group, have applied before the Committee was struck. They now came too late, and he hoped the House would re fuse the application. Mr. GRAN VILLE VERNON was a shareholder in the railway, and as such supported the application. The object of it was not so mush to protect themselves against the expense, as to enable them to be heard during the present session, which would be impossible if they continued in Group X, as the London and York line had not yet concluded their case. He denied that it was a competing line with the London and York. 111 r. WILSON PATTEN, as a member of the Committee of Classification, would state that the Committee had en deavoured to lessen the number of Bills referred to Group X, and ht.d particularly considered the case of this railway, but they had found that it was so completely a competing line with the London and York, that it was impossible not to refer them to the same Committee. With regard to the expenses, they were equal to both parties; and if they went into another Committee the other railway must follow them for the purpose of cross-examination. After a full consideration of the evidence, the Committee of Ciassificatiun had been reluctantly obliged to place this railway in Group X, and he hoped the House would uphold the dect. sion of the Committee of Classification. Mr. BROTHERTONsaiI the application could not have been made earlier, inasmuch as it was impossible for the parties interested to have foreseen that the London and York line would have occupied so much time. Mr. ESTCOURT opposed the application. The classi fication had been made on the 19th of March, the Committee had commenced its sittings on the 28th of April, and now, on the 14th of June, this application was made. It came too late, and he hoped the House would uphold the decision of the Committee of Classification. Gofe"; LIGHT GOLn• oho c hall - Mr. HUME inquired if it was the intention des , meet to appoint a place where the public c ov . _ d tba light gold ? rtEnreP...ll' goo, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQ' f L ' e sugg estion 0 he was not prepared to adopt the sub.— N p.) Member for Montrose. „,nI,A our /IP into A), ACADEMICAL INSTITUTIONS."' fl i n g 1 , 111 0;4 On the question being put for the hiou' e g ta - t ionn 300% mittee upon thegrant for the Academical 'net' that on nol o Sir J. GRAHAM was understood to s eY h i e of tbe dspf er nest he should take occasion to lay on the tl et iej; el ie ges.. ce certain propositions relative to the mode of o,.', ite , e co e iti ,. tioning the funds necessary for the support or ' ever y pl st ro 't , Sir R. INGLIS, while intending to orPe s e b such the ecn likely to further a measure he regarded w' t ive to would not object to any arrangement cond ee , rt set ? • A t on , bui , venience of the House. a t he die, e h Mr. W. SMITH O'BRIEN observed th t he all 5° offer any opposition to the measure then befe r .. e flar ded 7 e . in the wished to address a few words on a question Th`s'e was hes sl of i, interest by the Irish people, for he belle the wis ! , ctle dertaking to represent the feelings a nd Irish e e°P rtbi 'y , people of Ireland on that sub•eet. The t e.° j o tb ie r dered the subject of academical ) education on:pious e o pe i , attention of the Legislature, and they were un h sc as t l i l le eP c , i . a t ed ing that a portion of the Irish revenue lied to ! e se e os sion of the Hon. Member) —should be e i P of °P i i n ls We t b e ment of those institutions, but a differene-foodea 0- t ou T%e j as to whether those institutions should be at the sam e for his of united or of separate education. not ..dvoca te e ileoit the was justified in saying, though himself au , : nar ate ll bl ci io edueation, that those favourable to ' i ,r t fort ' e pee, t he would not be content with the Bill he et t"„e te tr r isl e l e pi• Government, unless certain modifications _ e me te oho th e it, containing the recommendations in °tint ther m lot this Catholic Bishops of Ireland. Upon one r e pro li ' l a cle in r eed nion of Ireland was unanimous —that se,gl, to be u s i ver e sg do relivious instruction of the students ou gn' lrele ed whi eh i ,ooW Bill. The clergy of all denominations in the co urse tt oic ' d ie upon this head.—( Hear, hear.) BY to, the 1 1 ,0 r e m iit Right Gentleman pursued —not let r , the i ja g t'l he i • trode ee-- pre ° r 0 ' what amendments he idtendeu to in ~., dot „ r olA Ati eo would, in the interim, have no opportunn::7.re to tit jolt m ust opinion regardino them. He would ' ye . n .. L .r di ci i r ' Ea ,'ted• Government, and tell them that if tn . v/ . ,,, , t he . wo o noa amendments satisfactory to the Irish et e h :e i o tire l l t he fl . e ity o f become " a dead letter," and its obie ets co nsul te ere gu t es' He thought the Government s hould have .. the y W _ tit be d to Catholic clergy, and that, by not doing w' f i e tho_e 6 e bieo,t oa rs disrespect towards that yen -rated bod . Y l. ;_, w b e. he .e proi t e ri ot , pressed the opinion of the laity of Ireland tha t thos e pe e 0 i f the loth clause of the Bill, which enat e me nt. , e c latO ti o 0 should be appointed by the Gov o e: r e ah j e to the o t tee t hos e heard any one express an opinion fay . a f it wa s to t° w alc c e ieet ie f now stood. Many were of opinion 0 ' / ,atrona-e' Noll. n ee the Government, by engrossing the .1 . , e H l ght _ 00 6(1e, ta le. institutions a job. He need not tell tn .e9 , the m e ent oni a d man that the Government did not P° o s f ' G everi troo age' in tej' the Irish people, who, after centuties lit pa . 00 0 r. to Governn". wo nt 's Loe ', O were naturally jealous of toe Govern jok ed city ' 0 suspicious of those whom tn .ntrusting t tad He should menteriou object to ' re to be a i r iting o a t 11 0 the Govern. And if h e ' e reply by P erni ee uhY" should object in this way, he would _. the po: Norm„ 3 th e way in which the members of t f ne r the Marqu'scrupolee'e;sore: acted towards the Government ofo e d to use e ‘ r ti s , the l_ e a tt! The Government had not hesiteadt of th''' . — For ;11 qtio,st. power which they then possess which had been proposed by their Pre de for bini9elotellet:', should iao° t, hos It powers which they had used ely fut , bee he l o g , ca r.. , re measure was calculated to bear ref,e b e ver) tie has wee, of the country, and he should tbc t r prine ip e les .eocdu tio r i r.. gave his assent to so importa,". which th 1 ri,cheo.ooriliu. f i t; a member of the Committee o the ac3dewica rese le" trct °l passed from which emanated. , e , o f those the dis, , ast o land. He had seconded the chief see s e e in ernl earle r '''' r rat he o he had earnestly hoped, for many 3'e 3r ' great ' Of alo e ''' w ould e, r ~,ed which he was connected, Wished. But great as wa o s ne h ploy . - 0 00 t b e all expectation of this advantisa.s.:,.i(l.:Le)h'reeatorsent° rgegil'ercifitie'r which the ‘-''' id b e on than see the measure hat it w ou innner,redt., carried, so much did he feel t , ,i n ,noeta •- a bo ut t. In a 1 0 such as that which they had as. Parliament we n c e o : e y of d l re e ;tlo ol° 'urious to the country. , s the t op money of Ireland—( Hear, hear t ; ,_ uii ,b u yen the money of Ireland, in the tow Sir G. GREY feared that, unless the Bill were removed from Group X, there would be no chance of the case of its promoters being heard this session. Mr. B. DENISON said that in fifty miles the lines ran within eight miles of each other. Then their termini too were identical, and therefore there could be no doubt but that they were competing lines, and that it was necessary that they should be referred to the same Committee. There was a re medy for the evil of delay. The Committee might a•k the House to remove it out of the group, but they had not attempted to do so. No such application had been made by the Committee, and notwithstanding anything that might be said to the con trary, he could not but be of opinion that the cross examination of the witnesses had occasioned this application. If that cross-examination had been favour able to the line, he doubted much whether this application would have been made. He called upon the House to refine this application, which had been made at the eleventh hour. Lord WORSLEY supported the motion. The question was one which had created great excitement in the county which he represented. When the London and York and the Cam bridge and Lincoln lines were first entered upon, it was not expected they would have taken so long, or that they would have been considered competing lines. It was his opinion they were only partially so, and if the branch were not formed there would be an end to the question of competition. The non-formation of the branch would not affect the main line ; and with that arrangement the Cambridge and Lincoln could easily be considered in another group, without any inconveni ence. Mr. DARBY rose merely to state a fact. In the Committee the whole exunination was conducted upon the grounds of the two lines being competing lines. After a few words from Mr. Parker, Mr. Wilson Patten, and Mr. Guest, the motion was withdrawn. LEEDS AND THIRSK RAILWAY. On the third reading of this Bill being moved Sir G. COCKBURN moved the insertion of a clause, au thorising the sale by the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster of certain glebe lands; and that the standing order requiring such clause to be referred to the Standing Orders Committee be suspended. - The SPEAKER directed the Right Hon. Gentleman 1° bring it up, and Hon. Members havittg uncovered — 'I he SPEAKER read the message from her Majesty, Which, was to he following effect :—" That her Majesty, en of conferring a signal mark of her favour on the Right Hon. oh . , H. Pot finger, G. C 8.. for the seal, ability, and temperdisplaY" by him as her Majesty's Plenipotentiary in China, in COncludil a treaty of commerce with the Emperor of China, recornraaou' the Commons to bestow a pension of 1,5001. a year upon Olt during his natural life."—( Loud cheers.) Sir R. PEEL moved that the most gracious Message . 11 her Majesty be taken into consideration on M onday nest! (Cheers). Dr. BOWRING wished to inq asur u i re whether the Covey, meat had received any official accounts of the destruction_.; persons and property in Syria, and whether any mees biT been taken to put a stop to these outrages? Sir R. PEEL said her Majesty's Government deeply gretted the con ti nuan ce of those unfortunate disturbances, of the last o ffi• ! i a l i n f orma ti on s tated that the representatives' the Five P owers h a d wet in Beyrour, and had made. ° dos strong representation to the Pacha respecting these 0. turbances, and th e urge nt necessity of suprressing t h int . Colonel Hose had done his utmost to put down the' e t r no s between the Drusees and Maronites, and h e was Al i , to say they were not so genet al as they ha d br at, These men were much pressed, and nearly 600 women, and children—had passed for nearly 40 miles thr,,t e a dfficult country. They had been Lccompanied by three nt, ll, chiefs, and it was owing to their presence that these .575 o rn it women, and children, had been protected through a . 11 r s. country from so many evils, and possibly from massacre itsen The subject then droFped. t,f thern--00:_nis ht Sir CH ARLES NAPIER wished to ask tl:e nig"' - sit s Baronet at the head o f th e G o vernment,i,vrhether any coope it ton had bean awarded t o those officers who had suffered the t siege of Acre? s; r R. PEEL said that he could hardly at present fi re d d l u et t the Gallant Officer's inquir so precisely as he desiret, put' there had been a specified ) s ' urn set apart for this especia . ' sto pose by the Turkish Government, but to what e stent it vito be applied in the way of compens.ation—he hoped it was solo applied in the way of compensation—he could not saY• an d be ddit i o na amount had been se t a p ar t for this purp ose before, ol c ' trusted that this su m wou ld be added as an al 'this clause, in addition to two others already amented to and proposed to the House by Mr. Lawson, were agreed to, andtheßill was read a third time. YORK AND NORTH MIDLAND (HARROGATE BRANCH) RAILWAY. This Bill was moved to be read a third time—Agreed to. DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY. The third reading of this Bill was agreed to. LANCASTER AND CARLISLE RAILWAY. This Bill was read a third time. ST. HELEN'S RAILWAY AND CANAL. The report of the Committee on this Bill was brought up and received. perisat ion. B up it l ac N cHe , E A Rh N eE D w Mr. LA Baronet in Cß h ij i? BRAZILIAN thoat,a the Big w ' so y --• whether. _itieegia saidi h d t rs the sugar otl y b u ot eer rangement had been made respectin Irons Spanish possessions into Cuba estop Brazilt---"of the he had any objectio 1, the talde n to lay he pap House We e. ' Sir R. I'EEL said he must allow that sugar bad beee ijoat ien ieeGAR. ~ go. doted into those territories, as was stated, and 3 ,° l3 o l s ter t ° had been made to this country by the Spenie°,„_%„" t es ' ile• which a reply had been sent, but no rejoinder No T a i o thee As soon as it w as ma d e h e . wou ld h a ve no ° W ectie te n ble of the rejoinder and the original communication on the House. NEW ZEALAND. , s - wheel ° Mr. CHARLES BULLERwas anxious to k,° ° : goielf the Right Hon. Baronet would oppose into Committee. tbe Ce eeti l Sir R. PEEL had no hesitation in answering o , fell of the Hon. Member for Li k d He hould erie! ' o • bet s ear . e e c•ntanutte I. ht his duty to oppose ,the resolutions going into s.'y t h e e ntig" ' the Noble Lord the Member for London had, the 0 , d e ll introduced a series of resolutions much more ueefilhe 50 4 ° the trade of the country, to the whole House , and pol ite. be , recommend the same course to the Hon. Me inber if °f t 'nue Mr. C. BULLER would certainly avail bi suggestion, and amend his notice ..., ... . a strt SLAVE TRADE.the lr` Go- Mr. FORSTER inquired of the First Lord of of thief' whether there were any documents in possessiol ari vernment, confirmatory of the participation' dire° ith ., T7le` ,o, ' of British subjects in the slave trade, eberg e f l as ie e; ant lob his resolutions message whether ttoheCreonmg.asresasn,ydeahteedetl.2th t F e b t r h u e ar p y .l 4: or t os ien tle e t l tioieg tb et e, documents. Also, whether j do o v n ern o ment or.; ve ssels tra de, fbh H ayyc o toi‘ u uri s r e reo. t rn h i: e biyne n l he a trai m ll tefw e names Unitedoh f a a n v ae d n hy d eeKesncirnli Britishag p dd t i eo o nm n c s wa opi or i hrtaanii in any goods t o ; n f t n e yf u oe e or ; ih h e e ar e n 0 it s , 1 a s no : e - t 00 we ra : i0 0 0 ; alleged in the said message? ' ,me _ , ide Sir R. PEEL said that the question hea t "4posill„, - idea' some weeks since by an Hon. Member on w e t by al o`,"-of the the House. With respect to the message e e „ ° l , - f t a lsosebies- that United ithetperdeUss President e t t n e e United carriedth States oug h ttootnhether there w Congress,slavee r were subjec ts trade,its t s 0:1 1 . 1 . 4 stateos. rot : trf e sys iiciitt b ..h‘. : of eh l feel) s • lent were concerned in the same trade . He (° l ' the ' a id 1 ' was not prepared to deny the fact * mentioned bi fitt y she a dj.. of the United States, and the law of this 10,11,4;1:aeries enforced to put a stop to the nefarious traw e ; t o e t': „" GO; cable. The message also declared that eh e riihe g el °- ,, Os" should be put in force to abolish the trade. ,•p a isr ee -n t st' tleman was already in possession of every Par e &collie% to with the subject, as they were included in tu, T s bre e g, •- r ieso tached to the President's message. The e c o •s• tb A l° „ - ,01 1 9, Monte Video, and some other laces . on the . ": 1 were ; r ibs.° coast, were the property of Americans,p and t",, i e ' t i e s pre 9 ;bieb transhipped to Rio for disposal. All the Pe n- t he cese f i ri lide by the treaty would be rigidly enforced. If i ll " e t that . '_'i s hill was now under investigation, it should be lOweoold eel . subjects were engaged in the slave-trade th e y w oe/ suffer the penalties.--( Hear.) ht 11°11. ere se. Mr. FORSTER wished to ask the s.g -- d fi cers w whether he was not aware that British n ava l ,ad cooed of conniving at the traffic ? , , t here W• - ni s to Sir R. PEEL said that he did not dor' t ,,, - as ring - ground for such an accusation; but all 4 3 '1 11111 - reference to the subject. Gen tle' CHANNEL ISLANDS . goo. frai l , Right Mr. ROEBUCK wished to ask the bet ben II t o man the Secretary for the Home Department ". he l i ned circumstances which had come to his knowledge' 4 e „. I opinion that the paritieular state of the Channel Isla o !'d IP' for inquiry, and whether it was his intention to rec alw .0 tbe If(i t ri Majesty to institute such inquiry ? in telling . , , Sir JAMES GRAHAM had no difficulty a w ineo ' s ' ot and Learned Gentleman that, from eircumstanie_ads, he _ O4 come to his knowledge respecting the Channel Is'il le VAS t hat convinced that some inquiry was necessary' a iry I° Oer however, prepared to recommend such an P L g o raed ll 00 which had been suggested by the Hon. e° it 't hi',,," •- „ t. I , tleman on a former occasion. He had tbe v g - t i the '''' fi t c h l e address a letter officially to the Lord President 0 . , into 4 recommending the Council to institute an ini °l l 3 lsnde , - t he present state of the criminal law of the Channe a nd al e° the mode in which that law was administered; constitution of the tribu I f • NIGL I S , 411 .01 be t In answer to a question from Sir Bli doe ' j •cl oe - Mr. ROEBUCK said, that after the intisne h a di jo t had just received from the Right Hon. Ge ntlei r s e n isich be motion o think it necessary to go on with the previously given notice. As order PRIVILEGE. ht be w" d ire' na s or its execution. owfh L per o no r et d he e J e d O ri en H pgo N wr t i R tfhr U o tmh S e S th E hue L s iLneinquiredson o w n h df a e e py .r ee iv e Hi u frog ea Is o sco ol e - d hO O i Committee o ready to be presented to the House ? co nsele e r tbe The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that in health, o the the absence from the Committee, through ill- wiriliqsbie Right Hon. Member for Montgomeryshire (All' va s dee i ' oa fil report would not be ready by Monday' and as l eo , fse tt l that the discussion on this subject should no! o . o ld eMsl the House was in possession of the report , d ay to Ow" that the debate should be adjourned from Al° nday 4 ) llre liP week. Sir R. PEEL said he should take the C elle° % O.) Bill on Monday. es I 01) o° °. LAW OF LANDLORD AND TEN ANT ` Big ht esc h Mr. BELLEW w i s h e d t o know when the Gentleman expected the Bill upon this subje ct ijoe 'llfa lijs ci I D that House ? ( Laughter. ) ive 1 teP Sir R. PEEL said it was very difficult to g ot pre o the r respecting Bills in that House, and be could e i ' n jo se give information as to the progress of a l3 t oot° 6e ll -,10 4 place.—(Laughter.) Lord J. RUSSELL—Perhaps the Ri g ht ft tl t ' ha iew" go could say what Bills he will proceed with and le°` Of to drop.--(Laughter.) ~ ate 0 The motion for the adjournment of the Ile ' was then agreed to. MANCHESTER, BURY, AND ROSSENDALE RAILWAY. The report on this Bill was brought up and received. DUNDALK AND ENNISKILLEN RAILWAY. Mr. G. CRAIG brought up the report of the Committee on 16 Bill, which was received. ___ MANCHESTER, SOUTH JUNCTION, AND ALTRINGHAM RAILWAY. The report of the Committee on this Bill was brought up and received. SCOTCH UNIVERSITIES. Sir R. INGLIS presented a petatonfrOnaThe presbytery of Dunbar against the Bill for the ab)lition of tests in the Uni versities of Scotland. PROTESTANT DISSENTERS. Mr. HINDLEY presented petitions from the congregational unions: of England and Wales,: praying that the Government provision to Dissenters, .and th a t p ai d to the Episcopalians in Ireland, called the .Regtum Dolma, should be discontinued. IRISH GRAND JURY ACT. Lord CLENIENTS presented petitions from Langford and other places in Ireland, praying for certain amendments in the grand jury law. MESSAGE FROM THE QUEEN—SIR HENRY POTTINGER. Sir R. PEEL Ainounced that he had a message from her Majesty, LIVERPOOL AND MANCHESTER ERTEN. SXON zrivie . The preamble of these lines were declared to be proved, the se veral points which had been lett for compromise having been sa tisfactorily arranged between the Companies. The Committee then proceeded to consider the clauses of the Li verpool and Manchester Bill. Mr. LOWNOES proposed a clause to protect the Company against the repetition of a series of indictments, in one of which a verdict had been returned against the Company in the Court of Queen's Bench. That indictment was for a nuisance in encroaching upon a footpath by a bridge, forming part of the rail. way over the town of Salford, and the verdict returned, under the direction of Mr. Justice Creswell, was founded upon the assumption that the provisions of an Act of 1839, which related to a single hedge, were embodied in the subsequent Act of 1842, which autho. rised the construction of the whole viaduct. He submitted that if this was not a misconstruction of the Act, the provisions upon which the verdict was founded had got into the more recent Act by a slip, and as the works of the company had, in thy first in stance, received the sanction of all the authorities of the borough of Salford, and were only subsequentiy objected to by the boroughreeve and two others individually, and of a population of 55,000, he hoped the Committee would protect the Company against the continuance, and insert a clausedeclarative of the fact that the viaduct and other improvements were in conformity with Acts of Parliament, and thus putting the matter beyond the possibility of litigation. He hoped the Committee would see that what he sought for was absolutely requssite, and that it was in order to pre vent future expense and contention that he made the request. Mr. MALLINOBY opposed the clause. The CHAIRMAN said the Committee were agreed that the clause could not be introduced at this stage of the proceedings. Mr. BROTHERTON, 31. P., said that before the Committee came to a final decision he was anxious to impress upon them the hardship to which the Company would be subjected by the rejection of a clause which would enable them to prosecute with safety works which had originally received the sanction of the authorities of Salford, and were only opposed upon a technical objection. The CHAIRMAN, however, intimated that whatever might be the hardship to the Company the Committee felt themselves bound to reject the clause. The clauses of the Bill were then gone through, and the report agreed upon, after which the Committee proceeded to dispose of the clauses of THE LIVERPOOL AND BURY BILL. The preamble of this Bill having been declared proved, The Committee went formally through the clauses, with which they were occupied until their rising, which was not until five o'clock. GROUP P. THE SOUTH WALES RAILWAY. On the re-assembling of the Committee at twelve o'clock, Mr. MONTAGUE CHAMBERS addressed them on behalf of Mrs. Hannah Rooke, who, with her infant son, had a contingent interest in the Aust Ferry, which had been from time immemorial the usual passage of communication between England and Wales, and which would be materiall) deteriorated if the proposed line of railway were allowed to be constructed over the river in its vicinity. The CHAIRMAN, at the conclusion of Mr. Chambers's address, said that the Committee were of opinion that he had no locus standi before them, and that his application could not be en tertained. Sir T. PHILLIPS then called Mr. Lopwortb, civil engineer, who was one of the Commissioners appointed under the Crown for the adjustment of the Government rights in the Forest of Dean—He stated that he was well acquainted with all the productions of the Forest of Dean, and that in the lower series of the forest there were about 16,000 acres of coal-fields, and in the centre there existed a field, the area of which was 7,000 acres. The forest abounded in iron ores, limestone, and coal. The supply of coal was almost inexhaustible, for supposing there should be an annual consumption of 300,000 tons, the coal would last for 600 years, The coal basin was perhaps the most perfect in the world. He was decidedly of opinion that the construction of the proposed rail way through the forest would be of immense advantage, and he be. lieved that to be also the opinion of the Commissioners of Woods and Forests. Mr. CARROW was about to commence the cross-examination of Mr. Lopworth, on behalf of the Severn end the Navigation Railway Company; first, on the ground that they were landowners on the line; and secondly, that the Forest of Dean Railway would be in terfered with, against which interference several Acts of Parlia ment existed, but was objected to by Sir Thomas Phillips, when The Committee decided that Mr. Carrow could not be heard against the preamble of the Bill, but might examine the witness with reference to the extent to which the interest of the Petitioners might be affected by the passage of the proposed line across the railway. The cross-examination was not continued beyond one or two unimportant questions. Mr. Lopworth was cross-examined by Mr. Law, on behalf of Sir Richard Phillips, a landowner on the line; by Mr. Cooke for the Stroudwater Canal Company; and further, by Mr. Davis, the agent of Sir T. C. Bovey and the Rev. Mr. Smith, but the general tenor of his depositions remained unaltered. Mr. Atkinson, deputy gaveller of the Forest of Dean, was then examined by Sir T. PHILLIPS, as to the mineral productions of the forest, and the accommodation there existed at present for their transmission to various parts. He corroborated in every parti. cular the testimony adduced by Mr. Lcpworth. Sir THOMAS Puriates then announced that the can for the pro moters was concluded, with one limitation, for the purpose of calling witnesses, if necessary, against the opposition of Colonel Lewis, in case the preamble of the Bill should be decided to have been proved ; the Committee, however, overruled the reservation, and the case was definitely closed, Mr. Morgan Hughes, proprietor of a colliery at Tenby, was examined by Mr. Las, on behalf of Sir Richard Phillips, a land_ owner, for the purpose of showing that the line, as at present laid out, was inadequate for the transmission of the products of the country which it traversed to a profitable market, and that a better and more eligible route might have been selected. On cross-exa. mination, it appeared that an alteration of the present line would have the effect of increasing its length, without affording any very extensive additional accommodation commensurate with the extra expense. The Rev. John William Hughes, Captain Child, and Mr. John Longbourne, were then called and severally examined, but no point or importance was elicited. Mr. Fulljames was next examined. He expressed a very strong objection against the construction of the intended railway.bridge at Hock Crib, as it would, in his opinion, interfere materially with the navigation of the Severn. The ac cumulation of sand would choke up the entrance to the canal, which would, eventually, become useless for navigation. Glou cester was decidedly the most favourable point for crossing the river. Mr. Sayce deposed to the same effect. Sir John Rennie way next examined by Mr, Cooxe—He was decidedly of opinion that a bridge, in every way suitable for rail. way purposes, might be constructed over the river at the Aust ferry at an expense of 500,0001. The erection of the bridge would have a tendency to improve the navigation of the Severn, as many, dangerous eddies, which at present existed in the vicinity of the ferry, and which impeded the navigation, would be destroyed. He was not acquainted with Hock Crib, and therefore was not in a condition to say that the construction of a bridge there would have a stmilar effect. Messrs. Dean, Williams, and Wheeler were also severally examined with a view to show that a briJge across the Au st ferry might be constructed with considerable public advantage. The Committce adjourned till Monday. GROUP PP. IMPORTANT DECISION. WEAR VALLEY RAILWAY. This Committee met at the usual hour, Hon. Eliot York in the chair. The proceedings commenced with the examination of Mr. Joseph Pease, who stated that there was a Parliamentary line, sanctioning the Bishop Auckland and Wendle Railway with the Stockton and Darlington Railway ; this was disputed by some of the petitioners, and counsel said that they (the petitioners) would reserve their opposition for the Lords. Mr. Thomas M`Nay, of Darlington, Secretary, stated that the proposed capital of the company formed for the execution of the whole of the present project is 82,0004, divided it.to 1,640 shares of 501. each. That the :.mount of money which the company are empowered to raise under the provisions of the Bill is 27,3001. That the amount of shares subscribed for is 65,0001., in 1,300 shares of 501 each, of which shares a deposit of 2/. 15s. each has been paid. That the table he produces contains the names and residences of the Directors or Provisional Committee, and the amount of shares taken by each. That the list he produces con tains the number of shareholders who may be considered as having a local interest in the line That the number of persons having a local interest in the line is 24, and the number of shares taken by them is 893, or 44,6501. That the number of other par ties is 31, and the amount of capital taken by them is 20,3501., or 407 shares. That the table he produces contains the shareholders subscribing 2,000/. and upwards, with their names and residences, and the aggregate amount for which they have subscribed is 36,700/. That he has made extracts from the population returns, and will produce a table of the whole popula. lion of the district through which the railway passes. That he has ca refully examined and checked all the calculations of present cal cu l a ie t i , o w n h o i f ch B , A i n o h L is G o s p . m 2d io . n r , ev a e re nu c e or ig r , ec i t n ly h m is a o de i . nion An ni d c t o h e at e t n l;i: Lair and liberal basis, and produces the tables of revenue p marked. engi neering dif f iculties to be encountered in theformatio n rweeoartnfe theb n l eo tine.of th . John Dixon, engineer, deposed th a t there were The Committee gave it as their opinion that a Bill was proved the clauses of the Bill were thhe and the Chairman was directed to report en gone through, merits to the House. the Bill with its amend- GROUP SS. IMPORTANT DECISION, THE ETZEWASH VALLEY RAXLWAY The Select Committee on this group reassembled at twelve o'clock this morning, and proceeded with the opposition against the Erewash Valley Railway Bill. Mr, CALVERT announced that arrangements had been come to IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from a person named Mason, at present confined in Stafford gaol, for the costs in an action brought against him for a debt of 10/., which amounted to 37/. JOs. MANCHERSTER AND LEEDS RAILWAY. The NOBLE and LEARNED LORD also presented a petition from Mr. George Sutherland, of Shipley.. Hall, Yorkshire, against this line, which was referred to the Committee on the Bill. MESSAGE FROM HER MAJESTY-SIR HENRY POTTINGER. The Earl of ABERDEEN said—My Lords, I have to de liver a mesFage from her Majesty. The LORD CHANCEL' (having received the mes sage from the Noble Lord) read it as follows:—" Her Majesty being desirous of conferring a signal mark of her favour and ap. probation on the Right Hon. Sir Henry Pottinger, G. C.B. for the services rendered by him in China as her Majesty's Plenipo tentiary, and for his zeal, ability, and judgment in negotiating ith the Emperor of China, with 'respect to the commerce of this country, recommends the House of Lords to concur with her Majesty in making a provision for him of 1,500/. per annum for the period of his natural life."—( Cheers. ) The Earl of ABERDEEN said—l move that your Lordships take her Maje-ty's Message into your consideration on Monday next. CHURCH EDUCATION IN IRELAND. The Bishop of CASHEL postponed the presentation of ce -fain petitions of which he had given notice until Tuesday next. The Marquis of NORMANBY was sorry the Noble Lord had put off the presentation of his petitions, because he (the Marquis of Normanby) had received some communications which he wished to have taken the opportunity of reading to their Lordships. These com munications were from the Rev. Mr. Mackessy, who con sidered that his character had been impugned by a statement which the Right Rev. Prelate had made on a late occasion of the Reverend Gentleman's overweening and unfounded estimate of his own abilities. Now he held in his hand extracts of testimonials of the ability of the Rev. Gentleman, which ex tended over a period of nearly a quarter of a century, and cer tainly these testimonials contained as strong a claim for professional promotion, founded on professional merits, as any clergyman conceded with the Established Church of Ireland. t They had been communicated to the Right Ron. Gentleman, the First Lord of the Treasury, and so struck was he by their contents, that he had held a commu nication with the Lord-Lieutenant on the subject. The rev. gentleman protested that he never knew that the charge of the Right Rev. Prelate, which had been so often alluded to in that House, had been published, until he saw a report of a debate which had lately arisen on the subject amongst their Lordships ; but having been present at its delivery, the rev. gentleman said it struck him at the time, as not being cal culated to produce a good feeling between the Protestants and Roman Catholics of the Right Rev. Prelate's diocese. In the letter of Mr. Mackesey, which he held in his hand, he distinctly says that the Right Reverend Prelate had stated in the charge that no Protestant clergyman could, consistently with his duty, attend any national school, even to see that the rules were observed. He had taken down these words when he went home after hearing the charge. He had also two other letters from Protestant clergy men in the same diocese, both of which were to the same effect, and when he named the writer of one of them, the Rev. Mr. Hogden, he was sure that the Right Rev. Prelate would admit that he had been rather precipitate in so solemnly denying the truth of statements which were deposed to by an individual whose respectability even the Bishop himself would vouch for. He (the Marquis of Normanby) did only what he considered to be his duty in reference to this matter, after what had fallen from the Right Rev. Prelate on a former occasion. The Bishop of CASHEL denied in the most solemn man ner that he ever rebuked Mr. Mackesey on the subject of na tional education. The only time he was ever in his company was at the visitation in 1843, and the only remarks he then made were in reference to the propriety of every clergyman keeping a school in connexion vs ith the Church of England in his parish. He might then have sug gested to the Rev. Gentleman his duty in this respect, but he did not do so in harsh or severe terms. He had a letter in his possession from Mr. Mackesey, written in May, 1843, when he was a few weeks in the parish, recommending the establish ment of a Church Society's School, and stating that the first thing to be done was to consult the bishop of the diocese. Ile would show, on Tuesday, that he did not rebuke Mr. Mackesey with respect to the school. The Marquis of NORMANBY considered that no further time should be occupied on the subject. He still adhered to his statement that the Right Rev. Prelate rebuked Mr. Mackesey, in the presence of an assembly of clergymen at Lismore? Did he deny that? The Bishop of CASHEL—I do deny it.--(Cheers.) The Marquis of WESTMEATH could not understand how a person could recollect the exact words of the charge, after being in a crowded assembly for some hours, and after going home and eating his dinner.—(Laughter.) The matter then dropped. MAYNOOTH. Lord KENYON presented a petition from the Rev. Arthur Percival against the grant to i%laynooth, and praying to be heard at the bar of their Lordships' House. The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented a great number of petitions against the grant from various parts of England and Se.tland. ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSIONERS. In an answer to a question from the Duke of RICHMOND ; Lord WHARNCLIFFE stated that the report of the Ec clesiastical Commissioners would be presented to their Lord ships in the course of a few days. STATE OF IRELAND. The Marquis of CL ANRICARDE presented a petition from the county of Leitrim, complaining of the lawless state of the people, and the system of intimidation prevailing in that part of Ireland. The Noble Lord said it was quite impossible that the outrages complained of could be committed without the cognisance of several persons residing in the neighbourhood, and, to a certain extent, the whole country were indirect ac cessaries to the fact. He held in his hand the copy of an in.. formation laid in the county of Leitrim on the 24th of last May, wherein the deponent stated that he was returning home about seven o'cloek on a particular evening, accompanied by his wife ; and, when he came to a certain spot, a man turned out, dressed in female spparel, and fired three times at him. For tunately he missed his aim each time, but the following day no one could be found who could give information of the party. He had given notice of a question which he intended to put to the Ministry regarding a subject of not less importance than the one he had just alluded to, which he should have felt inclined to put without any preface were it not that he wished to notice some speeches which had lately been delivered in that House. He thought it necessary to say a few words before he put the question, because those speeches were calculated to produce no good effect. He understood it had been stated by Noble Lords on the opposite side of the House, that the late State prosecution had had the effect of suppressing the desire for repeal in Ireland. Now, if Government had done any thing effectual to put an end to the repeal excitement, it would be as well for them not to talk about, it, but he still thought a strong feeling yet prevailed in Ireland in favour of repeal. Those persons were undoubtedly found guilty by a defective jury, but even if that jury were good in point of law, he should like to know for what purpose their Lordships sat as an ultimate tribunal, if not to reverse a decision so much at variance with equity? If those trials had succeeded, they might have inspired confidence in the law as administered in Ireland, but as they did not succeed, the result had been to increase rather than abate the agitation. Their Lordships themselves admitted the injustice of the imprison ment, or if not, why did they pass the Bail in Error Bill ? This imprisonment, he might observe, would make the 30th of May long memorable in Ireland. And, as proof of the feeling which at present existed in that country, he would take the liberty of reading extracts from letters which he had lately re ceived from Members of their Lordships' House, and others of a lower station, in reference to the late meeting that had taken place in Dublin, to honour Mr. O'Connell on the anniversary of his incarceration. One of those letters stated that there never was so numerous and disciplined a military mob assembled on any occasion, and the writer went on to describe the formi dable appearance they presented, marching with banners and music in military array. The other letters were in unison with that account. He would now, then, beg to ask their Lordships was there ever anything more ridiculous than to state that a triumph had been obtained over the repeal agi tation ?—( Hear, hear.) It was a most extraordinary fact that every attempt which had been made to suppress it, only added new strength and vigour to it. The unseasonable proclamation had failed. The State prosecution had resulted in disgrace, and the dismissal of the magistrates ga ye an im petus to the agitation, and co m pl ete l y rev i ve d it. W hat effect had this on th minas of the people ? About a fortnight before that, the repeal rent was only 1171. weekly, and even that sum was commented upon by the Irish papers, and considered a strong indication of the feelings of the people in favour of re peal ; but immediately after the dismissal of the magistrates it got up to 3001. And though it has risen to some thousands, it has never fallen below that sum since. Stronger language had been used in Conciliation-hall and elsewhere, since the re versal of the judgment in the Court of Queen's Elenik in Ire land by the House of Lords, than before. At every me of the Repeal Association, an authorised reporter from the Govern ment was admitted, and took notes of the proceedings. Was this intended as a check on their proceedings ? He conceived that this course of proceeding would not have that effect. The newspapers advocating the repeal cause, more particularly the Nation, the principal organ of the repeal party, in which strong language against this country and the Government abounded, were read by those who could read to those who could not on Sundays and holidays. He regretted that the talent exhi bited in these newspapers was used in fermenting disturbances among the lower orders of the people. A more fearful state of things could not exist than at the present moment when they saw great masses of the people arrayed in hostility against the Government, and setting the law at defiance ? to what might it not lead ? Much anxietylhad even been expressed as to the conduct of Ireland in the event of a war. This contin gency had been frequently referred to of late by the members of the Repeal Association. He referred to a report of a meeting held on the 30th of May in Ireland, to which Mr. O'Connell was conveyed in a triumphal car, and at which the people car ried banners, and at which exciting language was used. He gave the Government great credit for the measures which they had lately brought forward for the benefit of Ireland, and hoped they might have the effect of conciliating that country. He should not have taken the present course if it were not for the assertions which had been made on the other (the Ministerial) side of the House, as to the law having been vindicated, and that the Government was as strong vs ever. He denied that this was so—he denied that the Government • had either vindi cated the law, or was a strong one. But if they could answer for the safety of Ireland he should not interfere; but, in his opinion, Ireland had never been in so dangerous a state as it was now. He apprehended that the Act for affording compen sation to tenants would not have the effect of satisfying the people of Ireland, or of rendering them peaceab'o. Lord BROUGHAM wished it to be distinctly understood that he totally and entirely denied the statement that the result of the reversal of the judgment of the Queen's Bench inlreland by the House of Lords, bad led to disturbances in that country. He denied that the judgment was reversed on technical grounds, but on the merits of the case. Several of the counts in the in dictment were left untouched by the defendants in error, then prisoners econvicted, and the judgment was reversed on the four pleas found to be bad. It was not a technical piece of good fortune. They did not reverse the judgment on the panel, but on the question of special pleading. He was sorry that what he had said with respect to his Noble Friend bringing forward this motion without notice had given his Noble Friend pain. He (Lord Brougham) understood that his notice referred to the "county" of Leitrim, and not to the whole of Ireland. He was of opinion that the law, if properly administered, and it was in good hands, was sufficient to meet the objections of the Noble Lord with respect to party processions. Lord DENMAN said his Noble Friend bad stated the grounds on which the judgment was reversed with much cor rectness. He purposely obstained in giving hia judgment from referring to the epithets used against the Government. Lord FARNHAM said he had always been opposed to party processions, as they had an injurious effect, and tended to revive matters of history which, but for such demonstra tions, would be buried in oblivion. A magistrate mfght act on a sworn information to prevent any meeting being held which might be expected to interrupt the public peace. It was his duty as a landowne r , anxious to promote the interest of his country, to d o what he could to prevent a breach of the peace. PARLIAMEN TAR Y DIVISIONS. JUNE 12. of the house of Co mmons . ) (Prom the Votes a T nd mi lloce sp e A d y in v g j s BANKING (IRELAND) BILL. Clause (to repeal so much of the Act 21 and 22 George 111., for establishing a Bank, by the name of The Governors and Company of the Bank of Ireland, as restricts the Company from lending money on mortgage) brought up, and read a first time ; Mo ion made, and Question put, " That the said Clause be now read a second time." The House divided : MINORITY-AYES, 12. O'Brien, W. S. Wawn, - .T. T. O'Conor Don Wyse, Thomas Roche, E. L• TELLERS. Somerville, Sir W. Redingion, T. N. Trelarrny, J. S. Ferguson, Sir It. A. Blewitt, rt. J. Blake, 31. J. Duncan, George Ilami:ton, Lord C. Norreys, Sir 1). J. MAJORITY-NOES, 51. Baird, Wiliam Darby, George Lockhart, William Barkly, Henry Evans, William Mackenzie, \V. F Bernard, Viscount Fitzroy Henry INPNeill, Duncan Bolder°, 11. G. Flower, Sir J. Masterman, John Borthwick, Peter Fremantle, Sir T. Manic, Fox Bowles, Admiral Gaskell, J. M. Nieholl, John Boyd. John Gordon, Captain Pringle, Alexander Iroadley, 11. Goulburn, H. Rashleigh, W. Brotherton, Joseph Graham, Sir J. Richards, Rishead Bruce, Lord E. Greene, Thomas Scott, Frances Bruce, C. L. C. Harris, Captain Smith, 'P. B. C. Bruges, W. 11. L. H a wes, Benjamin Stuart, Henry Buckley, Edmund Henley, J. W. Sutton, H. M. cardwell, Edward Herbert, Sidney Thesiger, Sir F. Chute, W. L. W. I lope, G. W. Wellesley, Lord C. Clerk, Sir George James, Sir Walter TELLERS. Curry, Henry Jermyn, Earl Young, John Cripps, William Lincoln, Earl of Lennox, Lord A. STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEE, (YESTERDAY.) This Committee met at three o'clock to-day. MIDDLESIMIZOUGH AND 12 , EDCAR. RAILWAY. This was a Bill to give the Company additional powers. Standing orders to be dispensed wi , h, and the parties to be allowed to proceed with their Bill. TAFF VALE niIILWILY. This was a Bill to give the Company additional provisions. The Committee decided that the standing orders ought not to be dispensed with. The parties therefore cannot proceed with their Bill this session. PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS. THURSDAY, JUNE 12. The Bolton and Leigh, Kenyon and Leigh Junction, North Union, Liverpool and Manchester, and Grand Junction Rail way Companies Amal.:amation Bill, was presented, and read a first time. The following Bills were read a third time, and passed Caledonian Railway. Clydesdale Junction Railway. Dundee and Perth Railway: NOVICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE. North Union and Ribble Navigation Branch Railway,— Report to be considered. Tuesday, June 17. North Union and Ribble Navigation Branch Railway,— Clause and amendments to be proposed on consideration of report, Tuesday, June 17. Newcastle and Darlington (Brandling Junction) Railway, —Third reading, Monday, June 16. Blackburn and Preston Junction Railway,—Third reading, Monday, June 16. Sheffield and Rotherham Railway,—Third reading, Mon day, Juno 16. Newry and Enniskillen Railway,—Report, Monday, June 16. Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway,—Third read ing, Monday, June 16. Richmond (Surrey) Railway,—Report, Monday, June 16. Eastern Counties (Cambridge and Bury St. Edmund's) Railway,—Second reading, Monday, June 16. West London Railway Extension and Lease,—Report, Monday, June 16. Great Western Railway (Ireland) (Dublin, Mullingar, and Athlone Railway,—Report, Monday, June 16. London and Brighton ( Wandsworth Branch) Railway,_. Committee on project, adjourned till Monday, June 23, at half alter twelve. WRESTIANG.—On Monday last a wrestling match came off at Slough, between Geodmin, of the Royal Horse Guards, and Dyer, the celebrated Cornish wrestler, for 251. a side. Some fine play was shown on both sides, when Goodman caught his man on the hip and threw him cleverly, amidst the loud applause of the numerous spectators. In the second bout both entered the ring smilingly, and each appeared confident. Some hard play oc curred, and many good points and stops were exhibited on both sides, when Goodman, after a hard struggle, picked up his man with a cross-buttock. The fall was disputed by the umpires; but ultimately decided in Goodman's favour by the referee. Goodman had decidedly the advantage over his opponent in point of strength, youth, activity, and science, and he is now open to any man in Devon for 251., in the Devon style, and without shoe. ~~ • a. eq