The Sun. — London, England, 1814-07-20 00:00:00

' , • . . . 0 rune ' a'nd en tleaV;6iiie.a . . CO -A'n, i , a Plac of re= , i fu in his ship ?. - Amid it was ittipi°nestiibltlise..;infs:i).; li the is 7 . `bl Lord to have §eeti hint r toation without having , been i facts ( acti"u; The Jurv . had been told these p r i v y to the ii by the Noble Judge; but he Left them to consider.not ilvliether front these facts they could or could race the connection. But there were o•t}i-lit gtounds why the Noble Lord (Cochrane)- er , lititled tte,,,pte•to the ,protection of the House; ‘ ? 5 eliad d to tnislead the House by misrepresent men tate, i - I's tlie transaCtion ; for if the Noble Lord's t were well founded," a gang of conspirators 1 ,,, 4 1 :' 5 t have been presumed to exist in the J z 1 1 win' appeared 'in evidence Ilene oath's would he, invalidate(} by a fullneces against-hlin:,Ywjlciorese- z en ce in this statement. It was therefore to ~arY, wheit talking' of .Lord Coehrane'si oath,. 'zei!ollect that these first °. When he saw the n tl of oaths ial el perSo a n l s De l s ve o f f e n o ie n n of the . ',- It at the bar, men who, -he was sure, if po i l l i ii the ?rseentions could exist,- would not Le party pleen, a„ n "elves to its could exist, from 1,1•11sed of im it • •conduct, - ' s illi„ ,I °PA }she w' '''ll4tion. 'the :Solicitors . he coulditr s e - s , tra t in sio u . °"'‘ . • by Lord. te as lion - able men as any in tbepro : k.:0,14,41:nd even those were supposed ofa geoss dere -1("eltion-,1f• (tit'''tYli•avie'llbeeeNnobgl'eliLltoyrd. 1 d been in but he la had complained footled -ission iii the brief ; ics,rott.'hat that brief was drawn up from the the j\r o i ) l , a °3 of his Lordship hinisell ;- it was.._ ,_ r _ ea r d i l l y s le Lo t - appr„bati ri. of Vittits w...°11. Tile examinations of one of'these e Xanii n .',. ( read to him, and a partthe his four ser- Noble Lord bilbsett.4'lons was corrected by bets Vac e, ' a"d,yet,the Noble Lord and NI (• r s afis he was careless about this ge evidence. up in his !1.4-itthi,tivie hole ' of the circumstances- arising _ _ Li d, as to o'4", the vie Lord's conduct were to t i •, til e c extending; the mercy ei t hat town . froin e te I .` 'vas solicited, if the other w NiTheir delinquents 'tgal,tho s 'e,suller the full sentence of the la • Noble ‘l , a , ° felt for the sihiation of the th e ( jr a iled f o . i • e p er „ ,, 1 tins extraordinary House should re- Iteolk.,t tl'ilwittre of the Crown .the interference with as," o e Person on whose account the appeal Ninetita% and xvliether he had noittisltowences• If fallen from•the t he pin: °0 which he stood by the Pvlia -11144 „ f r ,?; ()figh t to be abolished, e :t'olll, , 1-'o,l4land abolish it 5 Itcli vi "" set a s •i d . the punishment in favour r but not . ad . dr u e r ss o.. t a h t e l th ° oat. -n ' r ` i d at ti'tr'e 4.,esioes, Gentlemen should 1114 tii,,was a nother .Hoi . ise of Parlamen_ , recollect 4 ' 1 14 l ` I "`v or tro,land cannot be tl. e of e Gen - altered by the "kil l , °ominous alone.. .The Learned 0, 4,. toe!, vati Proceeded to eomment ti, ons , e eu in by Lord Cochrane on other U got lAlPliti -It c N 'et anew I -- of his Lordship thatrefl)aetivceoutiod I f adants tete64,:„ trial, _because all the te el ige ,/,,,t,,.! Colirt.. ' He considered the answer of '',°ql e ' ' ' ""' be wise" and _legal ! t he 1 ,,., ' t that be hail statcdno grounds t when' e infohned la 1',,,,41 lilt of the rule. It was , a r o o le authorize l Itvoiliti leachaod wisdom, any aberration from which as L ve ,'Y ri,, - to the most serious consequences ; Ile ll'e'" ii, ei'mal would thenceforward conceive e % ) n ' ' ll g t° do when convicted, but to t r y It ~.-eriaiel), ~..1 . o n the wholc, 14,, sof „t; .'t a PC'. thatlll"l,t t- . was not time • t ,'et fur ~1-nion tuat IL: , i , siirk'aietlt ts'"etion, if he might so say, to execute dlie ti t ." 1 1(1 . (Io n " the subject now before it ; an right, whirv() oftevellaoi that he neither thoughtui.tas‘.v:us'ere.,.l: , 1 'stittitional, for them to interfere i that 41 elll er ti e N -Phle Lord. - But he v 'Y ti i i i, 'e punishrueut were or were not inflicted,say ‘ v 4 - t his a '' wl 'ielt he had deemed it his duty i t kith the.ceasl(ln would not weigh ii,,,The ' i ,, e who could advise the Crown to •T en . l as one- feather t it Beat ti earned Gentleman concluded with advanced 11, 44 tio Mier all the arguments he had hi l l ! th ere '"1. object- than to convince the House ; 41 1 le !' o t jtvira nothing in .Lord Cochrane's cas e 4: 1 4 4 1 ' 6 tl;,.', lt e to call for their interference. , r(s --..elore v 0.., ao ., • 15 . s • the 4, 1 1 ;r• 11 1 „, Lc b ainst the Motioti for • t k ' f loli, ;Li" was of an opinion entirely diffe7 I ,, Pre ss thi"le Learned Gentleman, and he would i l l ' s ( lty, ds this "Pn- as decisively, though not so 4,.' wit s a e 114(1 done. He felt convinced. that . Ivi i e f ar th e lit °l)Portunity for _the Irouse,to •in tet -, a part of li,'sQ ii%„; i ell efit of L•nd Cochrane, tviietoo, Qintilent did ;lot st mt to .bt . ....ca , 11ed for. 'li r ' , l 'e wi t , ead the report of the trial and the til n It t o 6 11 411 possible attention ; and he de qle \V HS i i e his firm conviction that Lord Loch 1,, to 'l','..lcleent. It had not been fully proved, lie "os t its n-lin‘cl, that Berenger had gone to w a , (4 bis Lordship with, his privi t y, Iv sex li,. 'lt p, P'(:t e it or that I I *" . •,, t --tl in •( (1 , 4 :re ; and the way in which this '44 -41 glit it i ' ti Ile proved was unsatisfactory. b(11-4'een hi,h, w its not proved that Lord Cochraue ull'h'ci, he 0r ‘Vollill have seen tit,e Nzitisn, was stated to have worn as Ete him, in the tif, lawore,"Qdthat liewas not guilty, he, f.. 4. .reachil), ae(loailited with Lord Cochrane, had, though i, i , I his j,,,;"„ ith,e trial, introduced himself, to in •it,e4te, .''11) that be was coiivinced of his c iiMail, un i ' l t° ask if he had any objection val,l Nu e ( I ) , t e °r two points which appear t(i the ('Lgree doubtful. Ilis Lordship had 41,1;ive l' ciltest favour a l , 411 t 'll any y one could 'l•4, t app eur •,( : opportunity of explaining what ti,,, 1 (le r sn ~ ,t ) l iiin of a doubt Itil nature. It 't ow el an : (-;1 circumstances , that he had con t.i. hi •01 uyttinaey .1 t i).lr it,,, oe 1, , with Lord Coc.hrane, w._,h,ichi. 'e(l, ''''t of f l it " "nig as he lived. - He wished ii4:(444'11'01 "e Noble LOrd's. motion to be omit •!raii, hvpraYed that the punishment of Lord th,,,i'lliol, 4th,e, Pillory might be remitted in con ,i:;tl,l6.oellet:rizi),,tl;isatpast services. He wished the that part of the sentence Might thicie` 1.0,,,,(1: Into execotion, withoot stating on 'Ft!, 1 ' it,„ ,!beir Prarer was founded. He eon fje 1 ' n ig as ari a in. i -e ciun e s •, it,„ ~ ,__ lin Mein, 'the, MTh... t1(11\l' "I ennSniCratiou of his_ past ser ,o•p•r . .. i i • •Ie \ I . P.gL eN , 1 • '''l l ' oti o °userved the Noble Seconder .lei t ii ".l k t : l'a (Sail, 'tho'se- who on a former p . -ir a . , a l ,- e t.w...0t, w ere ty zoubt of ' the guilt of Lord , l e " of 4(1:11...u"Und tO vote for the address.— Nittl'e ‘,l'''re th e rt:ent opinion, and begged to state i;(ettsjuil ~,tisoit Il•hicii. influenced his Vote 0 " I'le 1)1)3 " I I ' il 1.,,,,, se th e nt. . t e , 4 tO, and ‘vlly lie should this a c i t . o (i,„ r I ,lotioli before them. Tile No it,"ll,ii::',. tiaa, ijo(4rane),. in the statemeiat lie kyi I 11, 1 p,..1 1 , 1 , , had asserted the Judge, in ' Nee ° given tloit I 1• .oved )of whi e , . to tle.my ab pi u- no proof had been giveu— , ,;...i, ,I)11' ior r C OO . 1 7cr rel 1 , that - - name e erenger la( gone to )a wned in the COsttime of hi 4 crime. .Had it turaed out that .the Judge, - in - iniiritning uji; had made any, material miS;statentent, this was a circumstance which would have had great weight with niaiiv:—' He had since read the trial iYith as Winch attention as he could' read any tiling, and the effect of it on him was to re-establish that conviction which had at first hail of Lord Cochrane's goilt. De Beren ger had been traced from Dartford in the costume of ibis crime: Every witness had spoke to the star,&e. which he wore till he arrived in London. The waterman who saw him into the coach 'did not mention the star, but he stated' his.coat to bave been red ; and crane, the hackney coachman, bail most distinctly sworn to' its having' been of that colour. Now, if it was not asserted by these witnesses that they saw the star and order sworn to by the Others, as they had g i ve n ev id ence to the colour of his coat being red, he thought, it of little importance that they had not mentioned the star, &c., and considered Lord Cochrane to, have .greatly overstated the conduct of • Lord Elleo hoyough,' in his description of that Noble Lord's summing up. Here heread part of Lord Lfleti borough's Address to the Jury, from which it ap'- peared that he had said, they believed he (De Berenger) had gone to Lord Cochrane's in the dress and with the insignia described, they must, find his Lordship guilty, but, on this, he added, it was for them to form their own judgment. He thought the _colour of his coat' having thus been proved to be • red, justified his Lordship in the di rection which he had given the Jury, and for him self, after giving the evidene . e the most attentive perusal, he was sorry to say it, but with the Soli citor-General. he must declare that had he been on the jury he could bare given no other verdict than guilty. With respect to the motion before them, he certainly thought the present. was riot a case in which that House Was called upon to interfere, and should therefore vote.against it. - Lord A: HAMILTON, from his knowledge of Lord Cochrane, was *much disposed to believe him innocent. It was possible for all those cir cumstances, to have Occurred which had been, stat ed to hear against • Lord Cochrane, without his being guilty. If he could,believe the Noble Lord capable of making the statements' he had made, knowing them to be false, from the evidence given on the trial, he should (in that case) consider guilty of the offence of which he had been convicted; brit not believing him capable of such falsehood. he must come to a very different con clusion. He proceeded to comment on parts of. the evidence, and to argue, from these, in ,favour of the presump t i on , t h at L or d Cochrane was in nocent. He thought the sentence'imusually se vere,- both as to the offence, 'and 'as to the son; but when Laid Cochrane denied this, it was not for hint to urge it further. Puy himself, as be had very strong doubts of his Lordship's guilt*, he should vote for theanotion; as it was proposed to he amended. • • Mr. M. A, TAYLOR objected to the motion, as calling on the House to 'Overstep their: duty by interfering in this case. He' had not .read the trial ; the verdict was sufficient . for him, and if it, were not thought so by the - House, he begged of them to consider into ivhatn labyrinth they would' be led, if they took upon 'themselves to re -try the _case. The punishment of. the pillory, as applied to Lord Cochrane, had called forth much disap probation. He regretted the sentence,:but Would not arraign the conduct of the,Judges, nor did he think it was for that House to address the .Sove reign on the subject. If it were too severe, the confident: ! Ministers of the Crown could advise the Prince Regent to remit a part of it, and he thought the case bad best remain for decision where the Constitution had left it. Mr. W. WYNNE contended, it was in no Way a violation of the Constitution for that Hot's° to interfere - on this, subject, as there was no prero gative of the Crown with which they had not a right, and with which it might not, iii some in stances, he their bounden duty to interfere. He could not consent that that House should' be . shorn ofits importance, and sa id to ' h ave no r i g h t to address the Crown on such an occasion. If they thought the sentence too severe, it Was .as much their diity to address the Sovereign to remit part of it, as it was that of his Ministers, if they. thought so: He had from the first been of opi nion the evidence given on the trial was sufficient to warrant the conviction of Lord Cochrane,' and this opinion was confirmed by every thing he had heard. As to What was said of Dc Beriniger hav ing a dhange of clothes in his portmanteau, he thought it would be very extraordinary if it could be proved that he had taken the precaution of taking with him a change of clothes, in which he could not he seen when he returned to town, and which lie was obliged again to 'change at Lord CoChraue's. This was certainly possible; but it . was very far from being probable, and' it was for the Jury to decide if it Was entitled to cre dit. Entertaining no do-nit whatever of the guilt of Lord Cochrane, he would be the last- man to inculpate the sentence, br to at- • tempt to obta,in. from that House •declara tion that it was .too severe, but he would put it to them whether his Lordship's paSt ser vices did not entitle him to some indulgence? . He . did not know that he could vote for,the amend ment, but still he wished that part of the punish ment remitted which - had been so generally ob jected to) and he submitted, that Lord C, de prived of his Naval command, and of his honours, as a Knight of the Bath, though the other-parties convicted stood in the pillory, and he -did not, would ,Still be punished as severely as' they were. He thought the past services of the * Noble Lord might be allowed to operate somewhat in his fa vour, or that, a t a ll events, they should not be considered' as . aggravations of his crime. They ought not to be considered as written on sand— soon effaced as, though they had never been, still less ought they to make against him—that be cause he had formerly deserved well of his coun try, he should now be punished .worse than ano ther man for doing ill. Heishould vote in favour of the original motion, and if Minklers could not agree to it, he hoped they would prefer moving - Ore previoui question to meeting it with a flat negative. Mr• HURST spoke in favour of the original mo tion, and contended, to, Vote the Address- pro posed would be nu improper interference with the pr'erOgatimeS of the Crow n . The sentence of pH,' lory, - he maintained the piddle had been Of °Pi ni'dn; might have been spared: Ii fras more ig mithinious-ilian the alleged offenee called for: . Lord CASTLE REiG-11 adaiitted the .right o£ time I-muse to interfere jsi cases is here a sentence was held too severe ; but in Modern times . , -- Since the independence of time Jthiges was establisliel, this practice had seldo . m been resorted to. On the ground that- it had not been the p l ractrce . Modern times, an d on ' t h e ground that there was • nothing Id this :Particular case to call for such interference ; he ahodld object both to the : original motion and the amend ment.,, The Noble Lord then adverted to the strictures which the speech of theSolleitor-Getithii had called forth, add defended the coarse be had taken in interposing his powerful arguments and' character in defence of that system of which he was_ the ornament, to rescue the Judges who pre sideds-on the trial from the charges preferred' against them, and in explaining that which had been represented to be a material Ink-Statement on the part-of the Chief Justice. Looking attire • evidence given on the trial, it was impo ss ibl e f or him to call in q ues ti on the propriety of the con viction or of the sentence. He- wits sorry to be oblig-etito believe Lord Cochrane guilty, after' . reading the -affidavit he had made, 'but - it was some consdlation to iris mind to know that that affidavit had been before the, Jury, when they gave their verdict, having hen given 'in on We trial, and given in On the part. -of the prosectm; tioo. it was a ,most, grievous feature in the, case, that a man of 'Lord Cochrane's rank and character should -fait so- low as to receive such . a sentence as had been passed`•on him ; but he (Lord Castlereagh) - could . not cons - ent, because this was a distressing case, to establish a pri vileged order in this conntry, who, 6'llollld lie exempt from those punishments which won't, fall on the heads of their inferiors in rank, offend ing the same way as themselves. - He was not for supporting an aristocracy, who, if their .minds were so debased as to commit those crimes, which - , in the: tower orders would be, severely punished, should be suffered to escape,with impunity. The great merit of our laws was this, that they made no distinction between the rich and the. poor, be tween the man of,tank• and the humble ilbouLer:. He.did not mean to say, the cirettnistanceS of this case . did not add to the pain of the transaction, but he could not consent - that the punishment should, be remitted, because it was the case of an Officer winmse splendid services-.had formerly gain ed the approbation of his countrymen. Jt would tae a most dangerous principle to establish, -that either rank or professional merit should screen crime fi'bin punishinent. He thought it Material thatit'shotild be well known what. was the malignity, he ,should rather say the tOrpitude Of - the crime (which an attempt had been to treat lightly omit doors) and. what its appropriate punishment. Such . an offenae ought not to be yiewcd with indifference; regarded •as an exercise of in , genuity, utsr :spoken of with so munch tenderness as it had been Spoken of in that House: by an Hon. Baronet. For stn.!) a f ri c t,L, uk, t,U331 . 114, cheat largely`tte - King's"Silbjects ; he did'not think the sentence - which -had been awarded, at all ob- - : jectionable. lie did•not sneak abstractedly of the punishment of the pillory ; that, if it were drought d 'improper, might he one away, but it 'W as enough for them to know, that the 'Offenee which had been committed,. Was an infamous crime, and as such, While the punishment referred to Was -sanc tioned by the law of the land, time Judges were not only competent, but it was their bounden duty to apply it' •in such a case. In giving that -sente nce ‘vhicii . 'they had p asse d on time conspirators, they had npbeld the justice . Of the country, and supported its best •intekests ; for the offence in question, if held to no crime, would make all property insecure, and subvert the whole system of British jurisprudence. The law had done its duty, the Bench had done its dmity, and nothing now remained but to leave the Crown to act as it should think proper under all the cir cumstances orthe case. No case was made out that could justify Parliamentary interfere nce , an d he should therefore,' however painful the task, be - obliged to resist the AddreSS. The proper course would be to leave the remission of any part of the sentence to flow from the legitimate and ordinary fountain of mercy ; and he had no -he sitation in saying,- for he thought he might as well then state time fact, the Crown had al ready-taken steps for interposing its mercy, and remitting the punishment of. the pillory., not only in the case -of Lord Cochrane, but in that. of •all the parties included in the sentence. —(Hear, hear !)—This step- had been- taken not in consequence of any doubt of the propriety of the conviction or of the sentence, but it had been found the crime for which it had been awarded, was happily so little known in this Country, that i(was thought, after the waning given of the ignominy attached to it, part of the punishment might in this case be dispensed with, from the infrequency of the crime, without danger. It was on these grounds that the Crown hail been advised to in terpose its mercy. He was anxious that this sin - mid be distinctly understood, in the hope that - the mo tives by which the Sovereign had been actuated should not be perverted—that it , should not be. supposed to originate in any doubt as to time pro priety of the conviction, or of the punishment awarded by the Judges. • Sir FRANCTS .BuRDETT was desirous of/vindicat ing the character of Lord Cochrane, and coin= plained that the Solicitor (general had, -in sonic measure, departed from time general fairness •of his character, in the manner in which he had spoken of Lord Cochrane that night, as speaking i n the character of Solicitor -General he-could not have a turn in his mind 'against time subject of the Motion. The Hon. Baronet then went on to , show that Lord•Cochrane bad not been Well de fended-7-that'from the unjust and unconstitutional proceedings out of dOors, which preceded the he went into Court prejudged'. • Even his Counsel, from the manner in which theyhad defended him, seemeditohave felt this. This was proved by the circumstance or a much greater impression hav ing, been made ,on 'the public by the speech of Lord•Coehrane, in the- Court of. King's Bench than bad previously been caused by time State tuentof hiS Counsel. He believetfthe brief might have been read twice over to his Lordship, as , . • • . Afaied by iLeOr-General, yet laS bead, 1114 topliiiis to attention this from tent on oth er se he Mes and pay little fir tt>i WhiCh Ise t : n a e i : s s e ), ,it , 641 that the c t t‘ h r voted his tithe, had Catiged'hini to e Betenger's coat Was red; which was- refund in h' and Which could not have escaped bini; if he had,. consideration,given it any 1..,1.,ea.ei.,ffn n t. Fri the,chatge of it in his `aflidarjt to : e (limed. This word was a . great peace-maker; ws it not known that this trial had been Sent by the short-Blind writer to Lord EllenbOrciugh to be corrected ? At present he did tint know that this was actually the charge - deliirered by his Lord alp, and the only w a y b y which fit conld ascertained, was to call the • short-band Writer beldie them, and eitamine him at the bar: ,The Coachman and post4ioy who had given .evidence - against Iris Lordship vereperson3 of had character ; • but Tassin i t over thi.; .and admittin g that Lorit Elleaborough had used the -word he \ manlier i n w hi c h i t was set &hen . in the reports the trial, he still contended the summing up was ,incorrect. He gave the Regent credit for the inn- 'tires by which_ he Was actuated in remitting the most ignerninioos part of his putiiShment; but he acted On the Most extraordinary 'advice he had o'er heard. If he were to go into the'lobbv, and tell any one that the offence - of Which LoNI Coch rane had been concreted was little known in - this country, he.should expect the person, to laugh iii his face. He was pleased with the determination of the'Prinec 'Regent, bat surprised at the utivree on which it s was founded: The motion before . the House . , though was noi3 useless to go inter it, in no way 'interfered improperly with the pre• rogatite of the Crown. The ATTMINEV-GENERAL wit of opinion; that marking the crime as int:anions, the sentence awarded,: though ..not carried into effect, would • operate as alvarning, and prove a salutary ex-! ample.- He : commented if) severe terms on the language held by the friends of LOrd Cochrane and the Honourable Baronet on the subject Of trial by Jury, when its decisions .were unfavour ... `able to them. They were ready, to pull down.the most sacred ;imitations of the land when they did not appear likely at the moment to further their views. ' Idc thought it probable that the report of the ti A 1 had been sent to Lord Ellenborough, brit he was sore not otily that he would not, but that no, one of t the Judges of th‘ land would alter a report by the insertion of a single Word, wickedly introduced.to take from, or to add to tile strength of what he had said on the trial. Tire -person who hail reported phis trial, he ol3f•• served, was we ll known to .theme as th e sw o r n short-ha r d wr i ter of that Ilouse, and had any . Judge proposed to alt er , hi s repOrt, he Was stir# that honourable am! respectable person would OE , have consented to it. He noticed the arguments used against Special Juries, and asserted; that it ' • it were attempted, it woukl be as impossible to pack a Jirry i n London, disposed to lead them selves to a Judge, - as it would be in any other part of the empire. He defended the Solicitor-Geotriad trwti tue-cnarge or coming to the disciilsion of this question with any unfair bias on 1 is mind, and-declared bot,li his Learn e d F r i en d and himself; effectually t o avoid lids - , had declined taking part in the proceedings. 'lt Vvas said that the Noble Lord had been badly defended, but it was well ,known that the Geotlemen Who conducted his de fence were men of skill and - experience, and his • Lordship'had only been unfortunate iii advocates" this evening. The Learned Gentleman:then exa mined the nature of the application for a new andsthe contradictions ip WhiCh it inVolled Lord Cochrane. On that occasion the :Noble Lord humbly . prayed the Court to grant• him a new trial, on the ground of error in the brief, which, so little was he conscious of having com mitted. any crime, he had suffered to be used with out his reading it. How could he find that error.. without reading the brief ? Now it had been po sitively :stated by his Right Honournable and Learned Friend (the Solicitor-General), and even admitted by the Hon, Baronet, the advocate of the night, that Lord.. Cochrane had read the brief; and he was surprised that it should have been attempted to excuse his LordThip, even in . ease lie should have read that document, by saying that it was drawn in a technical manner, and might easily not be understood. by such a plain roan as Lord Cochrane. He maintained t h at t h e examination of his Lordship's servants had been taken before 1101, and, in some .instances„ cor .rected by himself. 'He . could not bring forward any thing new, and as he had not made out any case of surprise or error, the Court could not g 0..) beyond its usual rules, and grant the object of his application. The I-16n. Baronet had. complained of want of information on the merits of the case; he should point out a way ,how to ob tain that information. Lord Cochrane's Counsel and Solicitors were now mute; •but it de'pended • on his Lordship to unseal their lips. Let him therefore empower them , to reveal the na ture of the evidence which they had to bring for ward, and which, through the supposed error, and it would be seen whether the motion for a new trial would have been well founded. The Learn ed Gentleman then descanted on the pretended in- • noeence of De Berenger, and asked the Hun, Bart. whether lie thought that this had been a Govern. , ment plot to hunt down a politi ca l r i va l , whose rivalry too-was. totally uniniportant in the House He had asserted, the pillory would be dreadful punishment for Lord Cochrane, both on account o f his birth, - and. his public services, but unless hp • h a d been - sorely misinformed, the Honourable Baronet himself, was represented as thinking that -the pillory could. be made honourable by the rank and distinction of the individual con.. demned to stand in it.—(Hear, hear !)—Tlic Learned Gentleman then recapitulated theevidence brought forth on Lord Cochrane's trial, and thought that the pr9Ofs against Mr. Cochrane Johnstone, as far as Mr. De Berenger-was COW.' cerned, were - not as ample as against his Lord— . • ship. He would lay•his hand upon his heart, and • say that he believed, that when 'the prejudices'oi the moment should have lost their force,-the pub lic would do justice. to the Grand Jury, time ' Judges, and the Court who had passed the sen tence, and would confirm their opinions. He re joiced; at the same time, in consideration of the feelings of the Noble Lord, 'and still more of Ouse \