The Sun. — London, England, 1851-05-03 00:00:00

ONDON, SATU RDA Y EVENING, TILE SUN, ftutr-Yheult the. Hon. Member for Cockermouth brought forward , the temper of the coun t ry wou ld su b m i t to a permane nt her. DISRAELI-Sir , the question before the House hb l a s hb t i.ii g t l e \ s a ti s on in le4B the numbers were two to one against income-tax-(Cheers) -but he did think that the objectsthat is, ' it more likely now? Was there any more pro- could be obtained through its agency were well worth the ,of three years or one year ? The amendment to the mo- Y now that his Hen Friend would be able to get a endurance of its weishit for a further period-he would cite whether the property tax shall be continued for the space concession from the owners . of real property in favour of the ' the case of coffee and timber, for instance. With respect to t r _ adi ng and professional classes? up on w hat ground could modifications in the tax, he had little hope of a satisfactory by a distinguished membertheMinister, y o e f ar t is i atb continuance, o doi li h o nee. Gentlemen een made alien a n i i l "' expect it, when he remembered the na rrow ma j orit y result, seeing that both ' Mr. Pitt and Sir R. Peel had beet who support the Government ; but all the arguments of her of 1 3 dens, for the purpose q ues ti on regarding th e b ur dens on land, able to devise none, though no man was more keenly alive Majes , h's Ministers have been addressed, not to the amend trades, evidently intended to get rid of those bur- to e fiscal injustice than the latter. The income-tax meat, but to this side of the Houee.-(Hear, hear.) The perry was e so p d urpose of imposing them upon to the industrious professions and would, therefore, have to be taken as it stood-but taken Hon. Member for the West Riding says there lane common posed of-a tra' sfer of taxes from real pro- for a short period-(Cheers). lie knew what that cheer classes?-(" No, no," from the Op • meant-it meant one year.-(Hear, hear.) But they Petition aidobject between the Member for Montrose and Gentlemen on n _., . eof the [l ouse .) It m eant that, migh t meantshouldthat He be asked inquire what means existed of replacing the five millions support the amendment of the Hon. Member for Montrose. has twoknew that the result of the division on real p ro p erty whi ch would be caused by its loss. lion. Gentlemen bah!, -(Hear, hear.) Sir, the reason I support the amendment the resentpte one, what was the advantage of bringing forward "Try an import duty um , gra i n ~, but by what process was is simply this, that I think the assessments made under the felt that in it. He motion. There might, nevertheless, he advantage that t o b e done? He' h a d l ate ly heard of countervailing property-tax ere not equitable-(Cheers)-and I think it h wa s not one for avoiding the question ; when he instead o f prospective d u ti es o n grain ; but he confessed he not impossible to render them less unequal.-(Cheers ) Prepa re d e had tight and justice on his side he was quite could on ly regar d i t as a di s tinction without a difference. - That, Sir, is the main-the real-reason why 1 support the 'were • 0 to goon, and to see what the minorit and major l tY (Hear. ) He apprehended it meant to make grain dear, or proposition of an amendment. But it is said in cense side.' my le t him have a question where he hid right on hi s it mean t nothing. No, n o.) If not, then, of what good was quence of certain speeches made at this side of the House, cotton of ear, and a laugh) What he wanted was a dis- protection?-(He , n) He had been told by a great agricul- that Honourable Gentlemen are supporting the to th e °t th is question there, and then he would leave it tural authority th a t a 55. duty would not affect the farmer amendment of the Hon. Member for Montrose for other fore who il e i ountry out of doors ; but that was not the case with favourably; that when he asked a reduction of his rent his reasons and with other objects. - (Hear, hear.) Let us the einbers in that House. Furter, he would show bee landlord would point to protection.-(Cries of " Name." see if there be any justice in these allegations. The lion. lord and rho was over the difference between the land- He (Mr. S. Herbert; could name many. (Laughter and Member for Wiltshire (Mr. S. Herbert), in answering the the ''" e4 farmer - for the farmer, in fact, belonged t o c h e ers.) It was said that this duty could be imposed with- speech of the worthy Alderman (Thompson) the Member for for trading class. The Honourable Member for Devon- out raising the price of corn, but that was an absurdity. Westmoreland, said that a great deficiency would be the _ tattedrelieve of agricultural distress ; stated that he wanted Checking importation was the project, but there were consequence of the amendment of the Hon. Member for Mon tetheht ve the agricultural aopulation from the burden of 9,000,000 of quarters of grain imported, and if these were trose being carried, and that he had a specific to supply that ef th rn, and cl ear ly , pp ese d the income-tax for the benefit wanted, would not the cheek on their importation raise the deficiency, and that it was the imposition of an import duty ben f or c :sbut what did the lion. Alderman, the !hem- price? lie only mentioned these things to show that a ss. the secron foreign corn. Now the worthy Alderman never made the Westmoreland, say ?He let the House a little into duty was no t so soun d a p r inciple as a transference of local slightest allusion to foreig i corn-(Hear, hear)-but he did ..,,,.... 2. et when he recommended them to remove the in- burdens to the Exchequer in the form of compe , sation for mete one specific proposal to supply the deficiency, and I ti7lo, our and make up the deficiency by imposing duties protection. He could not vote for the motion, because there g ive no opinion on that specific. No doubt his proposition man hitt . imports. When that Ras said by the Hon. Alder • was no better budget than that before the House, but, look- was of a very important character, and will lead to vast con oppostitnee House must have observed how Hon. Members ing forward to the effects of future years, he should vote sequ ences. He was to supply the deficiency by dealing to teat el ' i t i tery frankly cheered him ; and when they listened against it. with the terminable annuities ending bete een this and hundred" to la, cheer they could not fail to understand that he meant Mr W. MILES eas a great deal astonished at the speech 1860 and 1867 ; and, therefore, as far as my Honourable Customs' duties, that he meant to restore a few of his Right Hon. Friend. He was willing to give the in- Friend is concerned, it was not only a most erroneous repre his Bof those Customs' duties which Sir Robert Peel, to come-tax for three years towards somebody s buaget, but his s entation of what occurred, but it was contradictory to the rimgreatAlderman honour, had most wisely and justly removed, the observations perfectly wandered f oni the subject. His Right course pursued by the worthy Alderman.- (Hear.) Well, cultural duty fixed er man at the same time recommending a moderate Hon. Friend said that the income-tax was passed for the pur- what occurred next ? Another county Member, the Hon. e n corn for the purpose of relieving the agri- pose of repealing import duties on two occasions, but he Member for Devon ( 1 1r. Buck), made a very able and in be at th , i , nt erest• And at whose expense? It could only forgot to state that it was, in, fact, to make up the annual teresting speech. W ha's was its subject? He entered has 4:lid they pay alre a d y e xpense of the industrious classes. How much deficit of 2,000,0001., which had accumulated to upwards of into a detailed description of the county he represented, ?-not less than 20,000,000/. annually 12,000,000/., , hough afterwards it was employed for the of the condition of the various classes of his consti upon import duties, Let those who talked of the purpose of revising the system of taxation.-(Hear, hear.) tuents ;he showed us that the proprietor, the farmer, the Pressure countries they never duties. real property consider that fact. Perhaps The Hon. Member for the West Riding appeared to he in mercantile man, were all equally suffering. lie showed us had had the curiosity to inquire what other what the Americans called a "fix," because it he opposed the that the consequence of that suffering was the increase of that theF es l derived in the shape of revenue from import motion of the Hon Member for Montrose, he would displease pauperism ; and he gave an opinion on the cause of that dis- per cent. ofa this country the Customs' duties amounted to ho his constituents. The question before them was this-should tress. All he said was, that you ought to modify, if it be in 1 the whole revenue ; but 10 or 11 per cent. was all they have a tax, stated to he unjust by all parties, placed on your power at all, this distress by a remission of taxation. the import duties derived from a similar source. In Spain the country for three years, with a surplus income of two But how does this justify the sentiments of the Hon. Member revenue, did not exceed 8 Per cent. of the whole and a half millions, or should they adopt the motion of the for the \Vest Riding, or the speech of the Hon. Member for Chan was - Wilts, or the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman the E about paid same as in Spain. It was evident, then, th a t then more unobjectionable than the latter. The whole argu- c alor of the Exchequer, who all say that the Hon. Member wanted t under try, at aP id nearly three times as much as any other coun- ment of the H o n. Member for the West Riding went to show for Devon was in favour of protection, and that protec ion such circumstances Hon. Gentlemen opposite that the agriculturists were not to be relieved ; but he was his specific for all the grievances and distress which he °us lasses. o burden still further the great mass of the industri- would find that they would make themselves heard in the enumerated? r ow, a word did not escape from the lion. 33,00 0 27; The Customs and Excise amounted to between matter, and that they would have justice The Honourable Member's lips about protection, but he most carefully ab this cou u" and 34,000,000 a out of the 50,000,0001. which Member then referred to the case of Mr. Ba.sett, as one of stained from even referring to the possible or probable cause by thehtry annually yielded as revenue , and that was paid peculiar hardship in respect to the income-tax. One word of the suffering be described.- (Hear, hear.) There was a thhindustrious classes. Surely , then , those who desired as to the distress of the agricultural classes. Let the House third gentleman who spoke on this side of the House, my 407 PX: further import duties sought to Place the burden look calmly and dispassionately at the privations which they , Noble Friend thee Member for Stamford (the Marquis of se of erS°nS who were least able to bear it, for the pur- were enduring. Let the H ouse reco ll ec t t h at the Speech Granby). Hi peech has been describ:d as that 2Df one pose , a. relieving those who could best endure its pressure. from the Th ro ne declared the landlords and tenants were the giving support to the lion. Member for Montrose, who had Claret ; 1 bohrer when he drank his beer swallowed as much only classes in a position of suffering-and then let the entirely changed the character of . the de hte ley_ anis aYing liquid as the nobleman did when he drank his House recollect, though th e sess i on h a d cons id er ably . ad- gesting the putting of a duty on thhimportation of foreign nearl It was impossible to put these two classes more vanced, that not an atom not a farthing of relief, was given agricultural produce. My Noble Friend never referred to no additional a level than they were at present, and, therefo r e, to them.- H ear , h ear .) It G overnmen t wou ld n ot give the subject - (Hear, hear.) He only gave his otehn.hlewe and.. W hy should burden should be imposed on the weaker, any direct thief, at least let the House do the distressed opinions on the subject of indirect taxation. Notin t n h g co t u h id pose h a hould they mulct the labouring classes for the pur- classes some justice by saying that this tax, with all its in- be more erroneous-nothing more unjustifiable, an madee h earh i easing the wea lthier portion of society ? By bearing equalities, should only last one \ ear, in preference to the pro- statements put forth, that there has been an attempt larg„Y'hen the w or ki n g classes, and making them pay a position of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who, having a on this side of the House to change the character be of this pr share than they ought of the public revenue, their surplus, proposed to con lode the n the overtaxed debate, to divert the lion e from the true question fore f i , ogress wa s and that we have been arguing for another reason and or retarded, and they were aware of that them- people for three years longer.-(Loud cheers.) t gleriev_es. selves ; it was no longer a mystery, it was known to th e The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he ter- another cause.-(Hear.) Our conduct was tra h nsparen , coulh° l:4 dY of the people. Of the tendencof the plan there tainly felt himself under some difficulty when the Hon. said the Hon. Member for the West ding;R t e Roush actin no doubt ; the People kne w it to be a mode of ex - Member for Montrose sat down to know what course he should be aware of what was going on; tcom-tax is eon Hon, public income from the Poorer Portion of the country. should take - whether he should deal with the speech of the at stake-the income-tax, that foundation of our prosperity,_ eons ? . • Friend the Member for Montrose took a course Hon. Gentleman or with his proposition ; for the one had that only future guarantee for the greatness and safety et Friendin effect was on the side of the tax , yet his Hon. little to d o w ith the other. The Hon. Gentleman had put this empire•-(Cheers and laughter.) The only objection I and h e was at all times in favour of a reduction of t axa ti o n ; the House into some difficulty, as to whether they were to have to a p r operty-tax and income-tax is this, that it has that (Mr. Cobden) would willingly vote against any tax deal with a modification of the tax as a permanent tax, or to always been . brought into the House with representations we ' s Opposed to sound Principle, but if called upon to renew it for a short period only. And, although the Hon. which, to use the mildest phrase I can towards them, have supportmight the only tax that was sound in principle, though it Gentleman who had just spoken had complained of his Right never been fulfilled.-(Hear, hear.) Happy would it have Other be faulty in its details, he should do so. There were Hon. F r iend the member for Wiltshire wandering from the been if the Minister who felt it to be his duty to support such thoualee income-tax which he should rather see repealed than the subject, he thought his Right Hon. Friend was one of the a policy had made a bold appeal to the country, and asked -tax ; h e wante d ot h er taxes repealed before he few persons who had addressed himself to the question before them at once, are they of opinion that the financial system Mem bers b t of r e p ea li ng th a t. But Honourable Mem- the House; a nd that he gave a reason which satisfied him, of this country should be changed or not; but, unfortunately, of this opposite would compensate for the repeal though it might not satisfy Hon. Gentlemen opposite, why the the income-tax had been renewed, and renewed, and renewed w tax by putting on others that he (Mr. Cob- tax should be continued for a period beyond one year; and again, while the community are led to believe on every occa ed,,n ould still more object to- There were 15,000,0001. he did not thi n k hi s Ri g ht H on . F r i en d h a d gone further from sion that it was on the point of being ended.-(Hear.) But, the community ", customs and Excise duties that he would take off, in pre. the subject than the worthy Alderman, who declared that his unfortunately, the deception practised on hfehenhcte to the income - tah, if he could get a reduction of ex- object was to get rid of the income-tax altogether, and to had not bee i limited alone to Ministerial representations to rhui ure that would enable him to reduce taxation. Upon impose a tax on foreign produce, or the Hon. Member for which I have referred. Other great authorities, when treat- U'ury ground he should decline to join his Hon. Friend (Mr. Somersetshire, who talked of nothing but protection to ing of this impost, and endeavouring to persuade this e) in this motion--(lronical cheers from the Protec- the farmers. Now, the Hon. Member for Montrose said he House and the country to effect great changes in the law, Oen° tionist benches.) If his Hon. Friend,or any Hon. Gentleman thought the income-tax should be made permanent, b u t w h en a ll u di ng to t h a t unfortunate tax always made use of hr h e rh s s ite, would tell him how he would advance one step to, that it should be modified ; and to effect that object, the step the delusion which has ever been used to influence public • vote for th r B remodelling of this tax by bringing 150 gentlemen to he took was to propose that the tax should be continued for th e op i n i on . H ere i s a speech, not delivered in this H' , use , but duty upon who wantedto get rid of thistax andvotean import shortest possible period.-( A laugh.) If the lion. Gentleman b y one w h ose f am e, like the income-tax , is likely to be tem mohourn grain in its Place, he (Mr. Cobden) would vote for this obtained a majority he would not advance one step toward s a p „ ary . Thi s i s a speech described as the speech of Mr. He did not admit that this tax would remain in its modification of the tax, but would go a considerable way in Cobden on the subject of the income-tax, made in the year P res ent . form as a ermanent tax. lie hoped the country preventing its being a permanent one.-( Hear.) But t h e 1845 , b e f ore the re peal of the corn-laws. " The income - tax Would before 1 have the power to remodel the income- Hon. Gentleman went further than he (the Chancellor of the is a fungus growing out of the tree of monopoly."-(Cheers t ax • --- (A laugh.)en Hon. Gentl 'men opposite might laugh, E x chequer) had ever gone. He never advocated it as a r- an d laug ht er .) It is a tax that is the foundation of anew but he looked forward to changes in the representation manent tax. If the Hon. Gentleman took the course which would give the great body of the people more power was proposed by the Hon. Member for Cockermouth in that House than they had at present.-(Hear.) When posing a modification, and would take the s in ro- for the continuance - of free trade. " The income-tax is a that commercial system. This is the tax that is the only security that sense of the was the case he did not believe that the present income- upon it, the question would then be discussed, and his motion nopoly, the corn-laws, alone renders that tax necessary." tax would be allowed to continue in its present shape. Did House fungus growing from the tree of monopoly ; that great mo would have been in consistency with his speech • but the -(Cheers and laughter.) Talk of public opinion, indeed ! Hon. Members ever investigate the mode of levying the pro- Hon. Gentleman spoke of referring • hhrty-tax in the United States? In Massachusetts, in the ' W h New England States, the State expenditure was raiser by it to a Select Coen- I know not who can praise it, to men ; but when we see how the rieitte s e. b.eet hy a , a t d e i r t e was was no new information necessary on this opinion is directed, instructed, dealt with, one must m eans o f a property-tax. But did it exact as much from the Gentleman uj 'to propose any perfectlymodification competent to the Hon. honour the common sense and spirit of a nation that can, on professional man-from the doctor who wore out his brains thought of the tax he the whole, generally act right - (Hear.) in midnight watchinga for a fee, and whose income was proper. The objections the Hon. Gentleman had But the Hon. Member for the . West Riding, commencing in or 1,0001. a ear-as from the man who possessed 15,0001. a but th 5001. stated that evening were stated in 1842, in that highprophetic tone which he has indulged in so 1845, and 1848, year in real property? No. They took pro ert h the were always negatived ; and he must be permitted often, exclaims, " With free trade there will be no they found it. and assessed the tax upon the')37 wherever erever to say that he did not know whence the Lion. Gentleman income-tax."-(Loud cheers and laughter.) Now is hroperty.-(Hear, hear.) They did not touch capital of the had derived the notion which he and the Hon. Member for it to be tolerated that men representing, as un and this was a great deal fairer than our income at all, Falmouth appeared to entertain, that he (the Chancellor of fortunately a majority of Members on this side present system. He the Exchequer) had intendedmodify this for hadofthe House do, class of the corn vras prepared to advocate a revision of this tax, but he to not prepared to do anything to endanger the was stated as distinctly as words could express his meaning, in munity, a elites whose suffering has been recognised by the . proposi commercial ' principles of 184 9 that he thou ht no modification . Sovereign and lamented by the Minister, when a proposi of the tax w h as ch pos polic established when this tax was imposed, sible , and he repeated that t* is brought forward for the continuanceof a great tax and b he could not csnsent to take off from real property the subject was discussed. Fea Membercasion on for which the the details d etailsof •• hich particularly uponthem-isreas it to , hOO ,000'. which it paid under the income-tax. He could renroached him with having •ifi .be tolerated, Ithat because p constitutional sti ed inquiry; and he and the say, in a manner not afford to let it escape that tax Ilewouldask of his friendswho I'd - - they express the feeling and vindicate the interests of their ( I not wish to see the principle of free wincedendangered that Sir R. Peel intended to' modify this tax. He constituencies in this House, these men are to get up, who to resist this transparent attempt of the believed it to be quite true that Sir R. Peel had attended to have made such speeches in other places (Cheers) -and other side of the House-(" Oh!" and ironical cheers) to this subject with the greatest care, to see if it was possible pretend that this constitutional expression, that this ful tro a system that had been eminently to the advantage of to make this tax mere just ; but he would read what Sir R. fitment of our duty as representatives of ' the people, are the great mass of the community.-(Cheers and " Oh, o h !e) Peel said in 1848, on the last occasion of this tax being nothing more than a mask to the attempt to get back .. M e r. JACOB BELL sa id the House had now to consider brought before the House, when he was not hampered, by those abrogated laws after the passing of which, accord 9, a property-tax in its present form against no property-tax being in office, with any of those difficulties which might ing to the Honourable Member for the West Riding, at 11. They were all agreed, first, that the tax was unjust, otherwise have been forced upon him, and had had the ex- i , was impossible that an income-tax could ever inquisitorial, and exceedingly opppressive, and in the next penance of six years for coming to a deliberate opinion upon exist?-(Cheers.) We are told by the Chancellor of the Place that it was impossible to do without it for the present it. Sir R. Peel said- Exchequer that no modification of the grievous details ef hettr.-(Hear.) The House was unanimously of o pi n i on n I m ust say, after having given the subject repeated this tax is to be expected, and that the motion of the Hon. ,w, that the tax must be levied for one year, but could th e y d o cons ideration, that I think the tax ought to be on income, Member for Montrose only applies to this. There is no one 'Government it for the two years next afterwards, and would the a nd th a t th e re s h ou ld b e no di s tinction made in the amount in this House who has expressed opinions more directly the . he ve rnment lose anything by limiting the Period to one ear?y o f th e t ax on accoun t o f t h e diff er ent sou rces from which the contrary to this than the Chancellor of the Exchequer him- W heY would lose two-thirds of the total amount that the t ax i ncomes are derived. I never would consent to relieve from self. 1 give the Right Honourable Gentleman every adean ofhueld raise, but they would gain an amount of Popularity out th e t ax i ncomes d er i ve d f rom t ra d e a nd from professions, tage he can make use of on the change of the corn - laws if doors that would be of great service to them. - (Laughter.) for th e urose o f ma ki ng an i nv idi o us, and, as I think, an for the change in his commercial policy. I think such a we bad a c h an ge o f Administration this year the unjust distinction, 13 1 •such tax upon funded, or defence is a very legitimate one • but his opinion as to the sew Ministers y evying a . , would reap the benefit, and the present Mi- what is called realized property. ••• • By repealing fixing of the assessment of the law does not depend upon Ih l s e try would b ear th e w h o le of the odium of having imposed the taxes on articles of luxury you benefit all parties the existence or non existence of the corn-laws. The Hon. went should for three years. On the other hand, if the Govern- equally, a nd th er ef o re it seems to me that the onus of the Gentleman has spoken thus in 1845 With regard to the equally easy, remain in office for three years, it would be tax which you su b s tit u t e f or those you have repealed ought general argument, the inequality, injustice and inconvenience tax as easy, at the expiration of the year, I o continue the to be borne equally by a ll, w h atever m ay be the source of of the taxation, no attempt is made to answer." It is to this the a s h, it was at present. He should like, therefore, to see their income. . . . . Subsequent con sideration (since objection that 1 understand the motion of the Hon. Member -x imposed for one year, and to consider in the mean- the imposition of the income-tax in 1842, and ita renewal in for Montrose applies. It is only to remedy this injustice, this felt while,. som e d e fi n i te p l an f or re moving its injustice. But he 1845 ) has confirmed me in the opinion that any attempt to inequality of taxatior, that I support the amendment of the e i tit h u nself placed in an unpleasant predicament. He must impose a greater annual b ur d en upon i nco me derived from Hon. Member. The Hon. Member for the West Riding, play either vote vote to continue the income-tax for three years, realized property would, a p ar t f rom t h e o bjection that the ing the critic on his Hon. Friend, says the course he is (A which if he did he should be unable to look his friends out public faith is pledged t o t h e contr ary in the case taking is most unwise and unadvisable. There are 150 Pro hteer°ers in the face (A laugh) -or he must vote against the of the funds, lead to consequenc es w hi c h l a m not prepared t aking opposite ready to take you at your worhp free ehee er hment at a period when he, for one, considered it an to contemplate, and w hich I s h ou ld d rea d to see aceom- trade trembles-totters on its base.-(Hear, hear.) called thungly improper time t , place the Government in an plished." you had brought forward the question properly, and em barrassing6: au position by putting them in a minority.- It was difficult for any man to say, after that, that it was the the attention of the House to the in, qui able manner in L o g li ter from the Opposition benches.) He would appeal intention of Sir R. Peel t o mo dif y t h e tax in the way sug- which the profits on trades and professions are assessed , you h _ the Noble L or d a t the head of the Goverument whether geted by the Hen. Member for Montrose or the lion. Member would have a chance of not endangering the existence of hhht was a proper pos ition for his friends to be in, to be for Glasgow. It was no trifling modification of a tax, as Government (according to the opinion of the Hon. Member boor of to vote either against the Government or in fa- levied on one person or aliother , to which the Hon. Gentle- for the West Riding) ; but, though you would be quite sure o un wi r of a measure which involved such extreme hardship man directed tne attention of the House • but he was pro- be ng well beaten, you would have taken a straightforward y' °ll the community. If he (Mr. Bell) supported the Go- p o sing t o d ea l w ith a g reat p r i nc ipl e , w hi c h o ught to be con- course.--( hear.) But why hid not the Hon. Member for the fraMent upon the present inotion-(" Oh !" and laughter sidered by the House in some other way than as a mere West Riding make cause roposition himself?-(Hear.) I te ( 1 ) ; 111 the Protectiouists) - it was only because he saw that , question of the modification of a t ax . ef s uch were the will tell you why-blie has an idea that these terrible T h was being made a party question.--e Continued laughter.) lion. Gentleman's views, let him come down to the House Protectionists are not so callous to the sufferings of the pro b r• S. HERBERT was not influenced by the same em- and make a distinct proposition th a t 10,000,00 /. or fcssional community as he has stated. Let him bring for thrrassing feelings as the Hon. Member, nor did he hold 15,000,000/. of these taxes should he repealed and their place ward his proposition, however, but I will not guarantee elf under th e sam e, n ecessity of relieving the Govern- be supplied by a proportionate direct tax upo n realized pro- him that he will be defeated by that large majority. I give meathe had at the exphnse of his own convictions. The conclusion perty. That would be a clear p r i nc iple u pon which the the Hon. Member for the West Riding, therefore, notice, that tin in come to on t he q uestion was also irrespective of par- House might give its decision; and if t h e d e cision were fa- when he has made his statement, and when he finds that be7,hi that House. If the n ight was one of cross-votings , as vourable to the Hon. Gentleman's vie w s, the Hon. Gentle- free trade and the Government are in danger, he shall not In-0" been stated, it was lik e wise one of cross-reasoning. The man could state in what manner he p r oposed to carry out the say that while he thought us dealing with the details of tax . tion of the R Member for Montrosehad certain striae- new taxation The Hon. Member for Falmouth fairly stated tons f ee ,. on.ing professional income, we were all the time dealing with Rive for (Mr. S. H er bert) u ntil the Hon. Member had that his object was to impose upon realized property double his new commercial policy.-( Hear, hear.) I call upon the 'srl his arguments in it s favour, which were decidedly the duty that was paid by income; this, again, was a broad House now not to be diverted from the real question before against it. He - it by that stale old ruse, that this is going backward in our distinctro t la„ T from th ose a dd uce d i n its support. Ile self in Committee, was best fitted to decide.-(Hear.) The commercial policy.-(ilear, hear.) Let the House recollect in com . h f `ierb h ert) could not f org et t h e gr ounds on which the Hon. Member for hlontrose admitted that his object was to that this commercial policy, be its merits or demerits whet --. ` ax "ad been imp o sed i n t h e fi rs t instance. It was render the income, or, rather, as he preferred to call it, the they may, is too vast a thing to be shaken by a vote of .this imposed pu distinctly as a temorar t a x-(Cheers)-for the property- tax, a permanent impost- He wondered that, with House.- (Cheers ) This is not the way we mean to assail it, thepuoosue of effecting certai n changes in the fiscal system of this object ifate' h , -, t he , Hon . Member himself did not prefer if we feel it to be our duty to dive take that course.-(Hear, country in 1842 these chan • , and to cover the ueuciency cause to e its re • gas in the rand The of the tax caused nearer approach to his principle-(A laugh)-for his own c o urse on the subject of taxation because our opponents at -unposition for three e• success d part, he differed from his lion. Friend on that point-(Hear) tempt to establish, for the five hundredth time, that we are that it was re • years longer, on the special ground 1848 it w have been requisite to test the effect of these changes. In -he had never proposed or contemplated the tax as a per- trying for the restoration of the corn-laws. We . as again i 1 the manent impost, but always, to borrow an expressive phrase treated to-night, by Members competent to do so, with lee famine in Ireland mposed for other urosee name.y, and; but the that it was famine to be especiall in the latter, RS the cover of which certain further changes in our financial ar- scribed an attempt which I myself made to obtain some would that pass away. It was the 3 feelin of the country rangements might be effected. He would just put it to those small relief for the sufferings of the farmers; and he _ ean income-tax should only be resorts i to on special who agreed with him in that object, whether any Chancellor said it was not an attempt in accordance with the spirit h h h, anions-in times of pressureand , (Loud of the Exchequer would be mad enough to propose any such of the age, nor made by one acquainted with the circum shes of " N e e emergence - tax as ° -and that was the meaning of the term war further changes in our fiscal system, with so large an amount stances of the times. Now, I will not stop to argue these and a .applied to it. He Mr. S. Herbert) thought it a fair as nearly 5,500,0001. dependent upon an annual vote?- points with the Honourable Member for Wiltshire. He has ne ces est Proposal to continue the income tax if it was (Hear, hear.) The only possible condition under which given his opinion on the important subject of a protective furtherrY ; but he he had to look to its justification for a such changes could be ventured upon was the approximate duty on foreign corn, lie said it was called by different with t Je e riod. H e l a mented that th e B u d ge t did not deal security Bent e-tain amount of revenue for a definite period. names -now it was designated a protective duty, and now a the 44 articles' •111 their nature elastic, instead of dealin with Lord G.inck, a high authority with Hon. Gentlemen countervailing duty, although he was not able to u nderstand relieved, sit did ;by that means the community would be oposite, had always been most anxtous, for example, that the the'difference. lam not here to argue on the question of tax _ . and while income would be obtai ne d the i nc ome duties upon tea shout Ibe considerably reduced, and the Right the difference between those two. '1 hey may be good or b ut ir e uti be abolished. Malt and tea were elastic taxes ; Hon. Member for Wiltshire had just referred to those duties they may be bad ; but lam certain of this at least that there to see Y had not been touched- He (Mr- S. Herbert) hoped as of the elastic kind which he wished to see touched. Now is a great difference between them.- (Cheers.) The opinion them touched; but he knew that could not be if the it would be quite impossible for any Chancellor of the Ex- of no less distinguished a man than Ricardo, that great light in come-tax was not retained . for a further period.touch those duties with an income-tax continued informed olitical economy another as painstaking and well rnight be There chequer to into sanitary reasons for transferring the windowyear to year. Very true, the reduced duties as M`Culloch was, that countervailing duties were , h a house-tax h e _ . ; but it was now too late to deal with them, mi -tax merely from five years, by increased consumption, re- always held to be a compensatory duty, giving compensation oe questa() h ght, in four or get e h th ti e Leen , was , whether there was a ny other bud - cover their pristine amount, but what, meantime, was to be for some tax which the community does not share ; while a the which he could agree. He could not agree with done,' the 5 000 000/. of income-tax relueed by the protective duty is one granted to a class, in consequence of supposing , , Honourable Member for the West Riding local burdens as rega r d e d H ouse i n an y o ne of those four or five years ?- (Hear, hear.) general taxation which all share. And thus we object on rdens; but if they were to be transferred to the Ex- To effect the fiscal improvements which he, in common with principle to protective duties, and are amongst the warmest i chequercompensation it should be distinctly understood that it was in a larg e p roportion o f t h e House, desired, it was absolutely supporters of countervailing duties. The Hon. Member was tha t for the loss of protective duties. That it essential tllat the income-tax should be continued for a having fully described the difference between the two classes th: destroyed the ground on which the proposal of lo nger per i od than that pro posed by the amendment. If of duties referred to then continued-The only reasons for bystander Member for Bucks was based. As a that amendment were a d opte d, its mover must be responsi- which I support the amendment of the Hon. Member for ' der he (Mr. S. Herbert) thought the Honourable ble t o th e d • •„it o f those fiscal reforms Montrose are these I have stated. They are that this tax bears Member and his country for eprivin h i n ~ party had taken a wro n g course whic h the continuance of the income-tax could alone secure. no regard to the agricultural position of this country ; that , h u h u ° matter. Finding himself in the position of - (Hear, hear.) It h an dsomely suggested the assessment of this unequal tax should if possible be made had been very tng two bud e tresented to him, neither of which he that the Government oe s p could accept, merely wanted to keep up particularly to the position ,i ti . pt, he f e lt th a t h e oug ht not to vote for a propo- for thr ee years, inorder keep themselves afloat a the tenant-farmers whos3 distress has been recognised by on which to that the would put a stop to those financial arrangements while longer in Were they• üble of snch mean, Government, and also to that of professional men, and I feel House hadoffice. cap meatcouldassented t o , more especially as the Govern- Pe.tty motives,e the amendment of his Honourable Friend persuaded that whatever Minister be in office, whether he be not, in single fur 1 .year's income-tax.-( Her. He had stated his reasons simply say, in reply, that in the first place, his object for any length of time the assessment under which the pre °elute'', on the - were many income-tax as a temporary tax; but there was to effect a public geo d, an d , i n t h e seco nd, that if' sent income-tax is made. - (Hear.) All these anomalies and gins.' understanding other reasons besides those implied in the ori- official changes should take place, he desired to put no sue- inequalities might have been borne when the Ministry who in did not rstanding why it s h ou ld not be permanent. He cessor of his in a worse fiscal position than h e hi ms elf oc- introduced this law, believing it, no doubt, to be such, in nut he contend h that it was the mo st u nequal tax imposed, cuPiel- - ( ll eart hear.) When h e cons id ere d t h e cour se of troduced it audit temporary nleasure, to meet a temporary equality was most that it was the tax o n which the in- public events during the last few y ears , h e f e l t it t o be ex igency ; was thought useless to indulge in criticisms daect . distinctly visible. Taking indeed the in- utterly tmpossible . for any . man t o re di cate w h a t would be against the cone and grievances which time would soon re .,taxation paid by the working en the position of Europe in any given tete necessaries of life the temporary h man, for example, up and, wills .. feelin g , Illere was far r , lie believed it would be found that hence ; the income-tax. eaOneplace , however, w as v i s ibl e , b u t the other mere precariousness as would he occasioned by the successqualities becomes a portion cf the management of life for merit of indirect sensible, and t axa ti on was that it was in- of this amendment.- (Hear, hear.) The enactment of the g all those who live under its influence.-( Hear.) There is ee _ , , not perceived by the three years, let it be remembered, would " ar.) There was person paying it.-(Hear, tax for . , not preclude another reason why we should deal with these two points, es come -tax should another reason, however, why the in- himself, or any successor of hie, or any Member of the House p cially the latter one. The temporary measure which we sup come -tax not be perrnanent-namel th • e immense : from proposing, in the ensuing session, such reductions or , e first introduced a greater degree of direct taxation , of fraud it engendered At it 37' modifications ported at then seem expedient. but as time • first was honestly paid ; as might But he put it into the financial system of this country than it before of eh e passed fraud was • for the public 13 coming greater and greater, practised-small at first, but to the House whether it was geniously carried until at l engt h i t was so in- I should be a financial crisis every year, or that, from year to rect taxation, it severe could enter largely into the financial ti _ , ..out as to defy all , wet investigation • At the the scrutiny of the closest I , year, there should be the risk of the sudden deficit of syetein until it w . That rep ly of taxation was in modifyh • same time he saw a difficult ' r iportion of the revenue as 5,500,000/.- gettii 1 1 heard, but it was with those rg popular, have fie ing or al el . ' • • d that if it ' y 1 so enormous a p , t ing it , while he felt satin : (Hear, hear.) He trusted that the House, by a large wit° were not taxed at all. This system, however, is not Member for was 'left to thole' whom the Honourable ' daffirm the principle that for the future, as in taxation, but hontiscaion. Carry out the system on a would be .the West Riding alluded e majority, wont to as th e p eo pl e it the past, the finaeces of this country ought to retain that broad scale, as taxation is carried ou by your present legis lizah raised to what had been 14-- V 1 h• 10 i per cent. Hebepower of • termed its natural character of stability on which the credit and t latiou, and you are attacking the capital of the country, and (Dlr. Herbert) did not think i the country depended.-(Cheers.) diminishing the paeans of giving employment of aim who MAY 1861. now support labour. It is because it deals most is n e i l t y s rent than he would otherwise be able to do. And then con- 1 Ireland. The officer whom it ems proposed by this Bill to eider what discontent you may excite among the great mass compensate was the registrar an d clerk of this court, whose with the principle of direct taxation, because it . s la i sses of the people.—(Hear, hear.) Sir, we had only yester , lay i office was a freehold held by pattint under the Crown. This mode of assessment unjust and injurious to certainc we, a magnificent sight in this metropolis— (Cheers) a sight I office had been filled for twenty-live years by Sir E. Tierney, and more especially to the professional classes, whom ought carefully to support in this House—it is for these which was gratifying on many accounts. It was gralfying who had a salary of 2601. per annum, and fees averaging reasons that I feel it MY duty to support the amendment of to see that this nation, and other nations of the world, had 3001. a year,. which were fixed by the. Act constituting the t h e H on , member for Montrose. If it w ere an amendment assembled in one Place the various products of their talent court , passed m 1803 , and a subsequent A c t regu l a ti ng t h e that either on that or on this side of the House would and of their industry. It was gratifying to see that means court, passed in 1833. It was proposed to give him such crudely ask us in the pre s ent state of our affairs to negative have been found to place, in a splendid and magnificent compensation as the Treasur miht award for anreduction I s etn ef en the w C er e e nr n t ow of E re x d c u h e e e q d u t e o r Chamber, but the imposition of the income tax. I could not sanction sue h building, the products of art and of industry. But what i a n lt t e h ra es t e io f n e s es in w t h b i e ch p m ra i e g t h ioe t takeand placeprocess in consequence of the of the court which a course ; half 'll' but because it does not interfere with the financial . w_aspenaopoiset_g(roatityeirnsg) —sumo say was to s a ee rn th i e lo g n re_at o r h a e s r s s ffieulties of the say near a million of persons—in the utmost good humour, LEIR did not consider th • ample time to the Government to meet the d: will Gene al for Irelande information given arrangements of thin year or the next year—hecause it gives of mi u gh r t . bseAtected ender this Bill. case—and because lam sure no Government attempt to with content upon their countenances, with loyalty in their by the Attorney r . aa all satisfactory. attempt 1 h meet those difficulties and to remove those grievances un ess eerts—(Cheers) assembled to see the spectacle that was Before Easter it was said that this Bill was to compen we take up such a course , I shall feel it my duty to support e th x e hi p b o it o e r d es b t e a fo n r a e t m h e e a m n . est Sir h , a t b l i i l e i s m e e p n e ts e , pl s e h , o s w o i m ng e t o h f a t t hem the i y n s t a h t e e se th th re r e ee offi ge c n e t r the amendment.—(Loud checre ) one. He be had a difficulty by their industry to gain their daily 1 iveli- lieved that, as long as had been connected with profes sinecure, so hood, they saw without envy, without repining, with- sional practice in Dublin, this office had bee hßeliciSueSsEtilo.nLt—hlaft i t s li n e o l v l ,r o b u e s f e or i e s iptl,acietdis ionwianngytoditte out complaint, the equipages of the rich and the splendid far as the personal service or attendance of n STr E Tierney cu L lty or o d n j t course which t t h o e p in pass before them. They did so, as I believe, because they ' went; he had been , for a laege part of his life an absentee in ions.— felt that injustice was not exerc any duties promote his boewrnfovrieMwsonatnraoseprloiepsostitaken • (Hear, and a laugh.) The Hon. Member for Montrose says hear.) But if you are to tell the people that the rich are to they were discharged by a ised towards them.— (Hear, England and upon the Continent,_ epnty. and if h p e ro h t aedstedagainst endeavouring have their incomes 3 increased by adding to the price proceeding with the measure at nearly onneerarelfeorcklrinl the that he wishes for a permanent tax upon property e of the daily food of those masses—(Hear, hear)—l ray morning. He wished the Attorney b G wishes for direct taxes in preference to indirect —he wishes you can then expect no longer to see those cheerful coun- would follow the practice icl.opatteteltg y e the Master o; a tlre for a modification of the present tax upon property and in - tenances—you can then expect no longer that the institu- Rolls last . session, o f not ',origin i debates on Irish Bills come. It would seem that the natural, the usual, the Far- tions of the country will meet with a ready and contented after midnight, except with the concurrence of Irish Mem obedience. But you must expect the heart-burnings, the ill- hers, who might be disposed to take a prominent part in liamentary way of proceeding to effect such an object was, will, and the discontent which muet follow the imposition of their consideration.— (Hear.) when the income-tax was before the House, to propose such unjust laws.—(Cheers.) Sir, I have found it necessary to Lord JOHN S RUSSELL had always understood that it a modification as he thought equitable—to make the tax, say this in consequence of the turn which this debate has was an established rule that, when any change was made cos if he could obtain the assent of a majority, such as he taken. I should have been willing to argui , this question the administration of justice, those who held patent . ffi .n es . solely on the ground of the continuance of the income-tax for should receive compensation for any diminution of their i should consider to be just; and having obtained this modi one of the principal powers of the justice, and it certainly would be lt a licatiou of the tax, then to propose that the tax, instead one year or for three, on that ground I should have argued comes which might take place. ro of being a tax for three years, should be a tax of perms- that as a nation— as nent duration. That was the natural and Parliamentary world—it was improvident and unsafe to risk the duration dented to take away such an office—which had always been H A M q l nu L i r y T t h O he N e sfsoeaulwencdtn that Commh a r t e a s si o r n t tEe f .e or o o n lo 0 a course for him to pursue. But, says the Honourable Mem- of a considerable part of your revenue.. I should have argued,. considered a kind of freehold—without compensating its her, " I cannot take that course, for it is a matter of ac- wouldtbing whollyh e ee. knowledged difficulty to make this tax equal and just. I promotersniesantaxnonicipllemtbellye gtaoinosbajye,ctsioonms,nwebhicthhe n m on o e re of is it i s t holder. A. cannot make a propositi 'n which is so complete as to enable desirable that we should not, year by year, have it dragged clause of this kind, which left the matter afterwards to be the laws of me with confidence to tender it to the House, and therefore into popular discussion. I should have said, that at this settled by the Treasury. that n s t time above all is it desirable to show that your financial Mr. GOOLD asked if Sir E. Tierney was the only person. I ask for inquiry." But if the Honourable Member wished system is secure and solid. These are grounds which, as to receive compensation? for inquiry, how comes it that during the time this tax has lasted, from 1842 to 1851, he has never proposed such an they affect the whole of this House, so they . more pecu- Mr. HATOHELL denied, as asserted by the Hon. Mem inquiry ? liarly affect those who take Conservative views upon this her for Carlow, that Sir E. Tierney was either a sinecurist or air. FIUME—I have, three times.—(Cheers and laughter.) Tierney was the Lord JOHN RUSSELL—I do not remember any case of the kind, and certainly since the present Government came subject. The Noble Lord, the Member for Stamford, a n sk e ed absentee. On o d in Friend, that he wished for a direct tax almost resolutionthen universal, The was agreed to, and the House re into office such a motion has never been opposed.—(Hear.) me to mark with attention the declaration of my n. only pe-son to be compensated. If the Hon. Member wished for an inquiry, he ought to have would make those who paid it discontented with . the amount On the motion of Mr. HEADLAM the following Members proposed it, and conducted the inquiry. But, so far as I re- of the establishments, which the present Government were appoint e o and very large in amount, because he thought that that sumed. member, he has done nothing of the kind. Having allowed consider necessary for the safety, for the honour, for the mortmain :—Mr. Headlam, Mr. Attorney-General, Lord the tax to be imposed in 1848 for three years, the Hon. power of this country. Sir, I did mark that observation; Member now said, "Let me have an inquiry!" It is obvious but the moral I drew from it was somewhat different Mr. Fitzpatrick, Mr. Roundel' Palmer, Mr. Heald, Si; he could hardly succeed in that during the present session, from that of the Noble Lord. I drew from i . ,'t indeed, the RobertHarrylnglis , Lord Harry Vane, Mr. William Mar and at the beginning of the next he would hardly be able to moral, that it is not desirable to lose your indirect taxation,. shall, Mr. Anstey, Ma. Shafto Adair, Mr. Hardcastle, and state the result of such inquiry, and a renewal of the tax to allow that the revenue of this country should be derived Mr. Drummond. tor another year would be necessary. Now the course in by far the greater 13roportion from direct taxation. Bet Mr CORNEWALL LEWIS obtained leave to bring in a pursued by the Honourable Member had led to this very I also drew the moral that it is not desirable to make this o simp y Bill t . • lif the forma of appointments to certain offices, absurd consequence. The Honourable Member wishes the tax, giving more than five millions a year, a tax which if and the manner Sill of passing grants under the Great Seal. tax to be permanent. He is immediately supported by lasting only for a short time would be exposed to perpetual The Bill was subsequently brought in and read a first time. those who wish it to be done away with altogether.— criticism, and to a fresh examination in the course of every Mr TRELAWNY moved the a pointment of the Select p (Laughter.) The Honourable Member is for direct taxationchurch rates. year, and thereby entail the risk of either your income fall- Committee on c in place [of indirect. He would abolish many millions of RD ted ing below your expenditure, or of reducing that expenditure Mr. BERESFO suggas that the hour was too late indirect taxation, which he says is excessive, and would below what you deem necessary for the safety of the country. to appoint the Committee. supply its place by ' a general direct tax. He is supported And let the Noble Lord be assured that lam not mistaken . Mr. TRELAWNY said, if they did not app in this —that whatever views may induce him and others mittee, oint the Com by those who are in favour of indir ect taxation, and wouldthe people out of doors would say they were not sin carry it to a greater extent than it is now carried, and would to support the amendment of my Honourable Friend to- cere on the question. diminish and abolish the tax which is a direct tax with a i ht, that if they succeed in that amendment it will not Mr. SPOONER then moved the adjournment of the view of diminishing direct taxation.—(Laughter.) The Hon. night, topromote either the maintenance of the establishments question. Gentleman is for making the tax permanent, and he is sup- n ported by those who would do away with it at the first pos- the safety of the country, nor will it tend to The House divided, when there appeared— ecessary for the safety of those institutions which he thinks ought to For the adjournment ... ... .. ... 17 Bible opportunity.—(Laughter.) I think the Hon. Gentleman be preserved. On the contrary , your sy stem of finance, Against it must have been rather alarmed at t he c are taken of his child your system of taxation, ought to be known to the world by those who are opposed to him upon every view which he as a stable and a settled system; for nothin g tends more to takes. During the whole course o f the debate the dandling and nursing of his infan t must have alarmed him as shake a Government, nothing te nds more to endanger a to the future fate of that u niversal permanent tax which state, than when its taxes are exposed to p er p etual un he has in his imagination. — ( Continued lau c ghter. ) But there Inty —(Cheers, amidst which the Noble Lor d resumed have been other grounds on w hich Honourable Gentlemen hise certainty.—(Cheers, Mr. MUNTZ rose amidst calls for a division. ThelHon. opposite, in very considerable numbers, have supported the proposition of the Honourable M ember : and these grounds, Gentleman said he could not understand on w hat p rinci p le the House should grant a tax f o r three y ears when the y lead it h ow ever much the Honourable Gentlem an who s p oke last has in their power always to prolong it f o r an additional y ear en d e avoured to conceal it from the Hou se, are the necessit y of getting rid of the income - t ax, of g ettin g rid of as much if it was found to be necessary . Neither the Noble Lord direct taxation as we can, with t he view of im p osin g import nor the Chancellor of the Exchequer had assi g ned one' valid reason shouldvote the • come-tax for three years why they duties on foreign corn.— (Cheers.) The words" foreign pro duce," used by the worthy Alderman, who, as the fugle- at one time any more than they should vote the army and man of his party, supported the amendment, were under- navy estimates for three years at once instead of for the cur stood by the House to mean "foreign corn."—(Cheers.) rent year.—(Hear, hear.) They were told that the ine qualities and iniquities of the tax could never be removed. Many Honourable Gentlemen opposite, when speaking of Were they then to say that all the improvement was to local taxation and the malt-tax, and questions affecting the stop, and no remedy for a crying grievance to be adtainis landed interest and the general taxation of the country, tared? Let them follow the example of the United States of speak out with the manliness which belongs to their charac- America, which had been already referred to, and they w ould ter as a party. and say, "Our real object is the restoration collect a property-tax much more sound, equitable , and free o f protection," and then the Hon. Gentleman the Member from vexation, and therefore much more satisfactory to the for Buckinghamshire has always to rise after them— people at large. Whatever the Government might think, (Laughter and cheers)—and say " Don't take them at their he was sure that out of doors great anxiety was word—whatever you have hoard I have not heard." The felt on this subject. The people said with justice; Hon Member always happens to be in the situation that he that the tax was at first conceded for a limited has not heard a word of protection, although most persons period, and for a special purpose; and yet time after time on this side of the House and on the other side hear a great it had been renewed, and they could not see ' when deal of reiteration of the necessity of the restoration of pre- there was to be any end to it. The Noble Lord taunted the tection. I think the Hon. Member will at length get tired Hon. Member for Montrose with receiving support from the of this continual obligation to remind them of the necessity opposite side. Pray, was the Noble Lord never supported by of being more prudent. If they will always march forward the opposite side— (Hear, hear)—and had he not many a when he wishes them to march back—if they will always time courted the assistance of Hon. Gentlemen opposite? be getting out of line—if they will always be firing off their He (Mr. Muntz) intended to vote with the Hon.' Gen muskets when they ought to restrain their fire, the tleman, and lie hoped he was determ ined to do what he be youorable Member will at least say, "Upon my word a nd accept support in doing it wherelver he lieved to be right, are too bad ; I'll not march through Coventry could get it.— (Hear, hear.) with you, that's fiat."—(Loud laughter.) But then Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he did not reproach the Hon. the honourable Member says that the Honourable Member Gentleman for being supported by the opposite side. He for the West Riding goes and makes speeches in other had said that Hon. Gentlemen opposite supported his Hon. places. That certainly is a dreadful crime. But if the Friend for reasons totally different and, contradictory to his Hon. Member for the West Riding makes speeches in one own views. place, the Protectionist party make them in another. If the Mr. GEACII thought the compensations d e rived b y the Anti :Corn-law League met in Covent-garden Theatre , is there country during the existence of the income-tax mores than not a party which meet in Drury-lane?—(Laughter.) It is counterbalanced the injuries it inflicted by its inequalities. said that the members of the Anti-Corn-law League some- He had at first felt favourable towards the Hon. Member for times carried their speeches beyond the bounds of discretion. Pilontrose's motion; but he 11:q1 since beenconvinced that the But we were told the other day that if the corn laws are re- practical effect of his vote would be in a totally opposite di stored 100,000 persons are ready to follow a leader in su pp ort rection from the result he desired , and therefore he must vote of the law which would be thus restored.—(Hear, hear.) against the amendment. These are the speeches made out of doo rs, and if we hear Mr. ROEBUCK hoped he would be allowed to defend him something of the same kind in this House, it is no wonder self from the extremely unfair speech of the Noble Lord— if we suppose the object is to restore protection.— (Hear, (Hear)—as he intended to support the amendment of the hear.) The character of the motion of the Hon. Gentleman Hon. Member for Montrose. Now, let the House see how has been entirely changed by the support given to it. The the ceae stood. The Noble Lord himself did not object to Honourable Member wishes to have the inquiry. His sup- the groundwor k o f the amendment —namely, the inequality porters do not say that that is their object. *They do not and injustice of this tax ; but then the Noble Lord wished to want an inquiry to make the tax more equal. Nobody but fix upon his Hon. Friend and all who voted with him an bli the Honourable Member for Buckinghamshire said that putation that they wished to bring back the old system of was his object. The Noble Lord the Member for Stamford protection. Now he (Mr. Roebuck) took the amendment to said that this tax, unfair as it was, could not be made be this —they had to raise a certain sum for the p ur p oses of equal and devoid of faults, and that, bad as it is, its faults Government by taxation, and his Hon. Friend always are incapable of amendment.—(Cheers.) If the Honourable wished to make that sum as small as possble ; but he said, Member succeeds in his motion, he will be no nearer his ob- ' If you will raise a sum so large as you do, and which I be ject than before. He will find that those who go with him lieve, with proper economy, would be totally unnecessary, into the lobby to limit the tax have a different object in then, for God's sake, raise it fairly 1" Look at the case of a view - that they do not wish an inquiry for the purpose of man deriving a settled income of 1,0001. a year from land, making the tax equal, but that their real object is to put an end or from some other fixed source, as compared with the man to the tax, and in so doing make such a deficiency, that then deriving an income from a profession. Another man was their favourite views might be carried out, in the restoration obliged to keep his mind on the stretch, oppressed with all of foreign import duties upon grain.— ( Hear, hear.) Sir, the responsibilities and difficulties of existence, and might the language in this respect, and in the House to-night. was lose his income at a moment when his powers were di not at. all equivocal. The Hon. Member for Devonshire, who minishing, and he was no longer able to provide for the speke in support of the motion, gave, as an example that support of his family. Compare this wi th the condition of the we ought to follow, the President, and Legislature of the man who derived his income from land. He might be para- United States of America, where,k said all native industry lytic, ignorant, idle, anything, but his thousand pounds was protected. Every one ienovis pat none of the manufac- a year remained to him. He said this was a gross injustice, Curers of this country want any protection for their cotton and it was this that Government were fighting for. When or their woollen goods—that that protection was taken the Hon. Member for Coventry (Mr. Geach) told them that away many years ago. They were not sufferers by it, be- he had sounded the feelings out of doors, he would te ll the cause they go into the markets bf the world and compete H on . Member that he would meet him before any meeting with other producers on equal term. Therefore, the only of his countrymen, and he had that confidence in their persons who requires protection the only kind of spirit of justice that he believed they would be for t he work native industry that now ,:raquires protection asks for that protection which ing man and his interests. Those who support ed the amend was formerly given to ment wished to raise the funds required for the public ser the landed interests of this ,- country. Sir, when, in ,• • 1846, the protective duties were - eery much diminished with an e uitable wax The Noble Lord told them they A ice la q . y. regard to some articles of our nt,nufact but he must ask if that were endangering the Government; urers, many consti- was so serious a result, because he must say, seeing the tuents of mine came to me, urging me not to vote for the . tariff which was then proposed by Sir R. Peel ; and they u ter injustice . of the Noble Lord's policy, that, if it was ne said, not unnaturally, "We codid bear this for the public service, it cessary to raise the present sum . competition with would become that House to find a fair means of doing so. the foreigners if we were not obliged to pay an extra and in- —(Hear hear.) When questions of economy arose, he ceased price for our food in consequence of the corn-laws." hoped My answer was, " I cannot cotapi), with your request : I ' Hon. Gentlemen the other side would show that on. on the force of their convictions by taking the same line as must vote for the diminution of those duties on your mane- thernse'ves. He was Aston ishea that the Hon. Member for factures. But you must depend upon this—that this country will not long suffer the injustice, that you should be exposed , • the West Riding (Mr. Cobden), who had proposed so many the competition of the foreignsweeping schemes of retrenchment, should withhold his sup toproducer and be obliged pay an artificial price for your bread in consequence this • if wouldstint the taxa to port from motion ; the House of the tion of the country, they would find it an easy matter to cut acts of the Legislature." And I found myself perfectly jus- down titled by the event; because in a few years that protection He was not to be deterred from expenditure... was taken off. In the course Of some of these debates ' supporting this motion being told that Gentlemen opposite by opinions have been much alluded to with regard to the income andoustwhat my were about to take advantage of the proposal, - was called a Liberal Administration. He wished to see an tax. The Noble . Lord the Member for Stamford to-night w ` • • • • h • 1 Opposition,for said that we were justified on this side of the House if had illiberal Administration with . a Liberal he changed our opinions w ith respect my opinions inis ra on the income - t ax, although the y would be justified if Ad ' • t tion with a downright illiberal Opp osition. m have really they had been altered,. . undergone very little ( sin le ) . . Hear hear. They had seen the greatest reforms, without it in 1842 little a single exception. carried out when Gentlemen opposite change. I opposed a ., i . , , and I still, think I was justified in that o 13po "ll' I think that if the pro- were in office, and those who now occupied the Ministerial tective duties on corn, wa s u. gar, and timber had been benches were in opposition. He really thought the Noble very much reduced, it so liablelel then have been possible Lord and his colleagues were cut out for the functions of op to impose a tax even_ . . to objection. In dB4position.—(A laugh.) They rendered much more benefit to however, I supported the Income-tax ; and I di so their country in that capacity - (Cheers and laughter)—and o n whver, the ground of the great benefits to be received as atoms it would not be with pain that he would see the occurrence pensation for suffering that . tax. I said I thought it was of circumstances which would place them where he believed they would shine with peculiar lustre, and to the great liable to the objections of inequality, vexation; and fraud; benefit of their country.— (Hear.) If this were a just tax ' and I cannot deny that I think the tax still, in its nature, make it permanent—the Noble Lord's argument went to that ; liable to these objections. I cannot see in what manner if it were not a just tax, adopt it only for so long a time as these objections can be removed ; and lam afraid that those was absolutely necessary for the public service, and take who think they can be removed, when they come to examine those precautions which would enable them to provide some the question of imposing !I lees tax on professional men, and more just tax, better suited to the public exigencies.— come to compare professional men with others who derive (Hear.) Let not the Noble Lord shift his ground ; he meant only a life income on land; and again, when they place a to make the income-tax permanent, but he could not say it reduced tax on one class and a higher tax on all who re- though he meant it.—(Cheers.) ce i ve incomes from the funds, and have to consider what Mr. HUM E t h oug h t t h ere wa s no man who ever made a justice requires towards the holders of the public funds, I motion in the H ouse w h ose o b jec t had been more misrepre think they will find the difficulties o great that they will not be able to get rid pf . that inequality. But when I said seated than his own. The Noble Lord and the Chancellor that I was of that opinion, I stated at the same time that of the Exchequer must have been absent from the House the only way for getting rid fivally of the income-tax was when he made his speech; the Noble Lord was most unfair by the diminution of protection. _(The Noble Lord here in attributing to him a course which he took special care quoted a passage from his own speech on the income-tax in at the commencement to guard himself against. Both the Noble Lord and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and indeed 1845, which was, as nearly as we could catch it, as follows • he tax had described it as —Be was confident .that, 'if they wished to get rid of • every one who had spoken of t , abominable, unequal, unjust, and in every way unworthy to the income-tax they must take the mode of endeavouring be cntinued. Let the Noble Lord meet the wishes of which to improve the condition, end to increase the prosperity people o out of doors, and remove the inequalities of of the empire, by opening up new markets and eaeryone tom lained. Let the tax be imposed for one year, admitting large importations t and increasing the ex- and an inquirypmeanwhile instituted, from whichestalivy.mi,fbhet ports, thereby oreaing , an additional demand for judge wbether it could not be made less . oppr i e in the consu • labour, and an augmentatione. favour mption of articles Noble Lord had submitted his naval, and • 1- military, misce which they restrict dby imaginary and protection. and even the Ceylon in restricted estimates to a Committee, Then they might look at the end ofthree or five years to Governor. He quirt', which was directed against an absent romany the abolition of t ee property and income-tax ; but if the side of the c_i M r r Y' Hume) would accept support f question lay between the continuance of the income-tax and •his duty. quessatisfied that he had done of the s sten' of mono o' h louse the continuance Y , , la Y, e should declare The divided,when there appeared Committee then for the income-tax and the ,final diminution of protection 244 For Mr. home's amendment .. and monopoly,) The Noble Lord then proceeded:—Such 230 was the statement made by me in 1845, not concealing the Against it • ._ ..... .. ..... - . Ministers 'rave objections to the income-tax, but thinking that we Majority agains t - d wit f the numbers was receive wi f'should obtain more than an equivalent for the country by The daft'ann ounc e e b the Opposition. The blank in the diminishing and reducing the taxes which pressed upon in- vociferous cheeri with the words year ;" the Chair dustry. Sir, it is impossible to conceal from one's self that Bill was then filled up s - c and the House resumed. to-night, as on all other nights when we have had similar man reported vaegrea ELL ' gave notice that he should propose to questions, the view of those who are to appear in opposition to Lord J. RUaS Committee on the Property-tax Bill on Men us, is that by making the income-tax less likely to subsist they go on with the the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill till the lion may have a return to protective duties. And, be i; observed, clay, and postpone(Hear, hear.) that whereas in former tithes, when protective duties had day Niel ng iBOUCHERE said that, with regard to the Steam tto be imposed, but only to be maintained according to an Mr. L . no Bill, which was ordered to be committed that ancient system of policy, the arguments which were derived • Navigation . . from national independence , from the necess' ity of the food d b ay n , he had no objection to assent to the wish which had derived fro expressed, that it should be referred to a Select Corn of the people being t depend' form your own soil, in order Meiettee. He thought it desirable that the Committee should that you might no . the necessary articles of ot be numerous —seven or five Members— and he pr subsistence on foreign nations—those and similar argu- n nomina te the Committee on Monday. , mea ts were the ch ief ob j ections ur g ed a g ainst a change , to PRACTICE AND PROCESS (IRELAND) BILL. of your policy ; but now we_ leave almost the naked state- On the next order of the day being read from the chair, meat that for the purpose of doing f justice to one interest in me SADLEII4 said that if it was proposed to proceed with this country—to enable the enable to continue their occu pation with a profit, and to _ them to pay their rent on the information which was a iked for before Easter respecting the landlord, it is necessary to have proteceive duties Sir these corm—, Hear, hear.) No!. , ese duties, whateveri the officers of the Court of Exchequer, whom it was proposed as 1 to compensate, he should move that the Chairman should they may be, involve one of . two consequences: eit or i f d er e — nee , report progress. the Right lion. Gentleman the Member for Stain, mode- , The AT lORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said that argued in this House, in a very able el -)eech—ei'llendain that ' this Bill was introduced in order to remove doubt& which rate fixed daty will not raise the price of corn, an , ..,‘ and will case the farmers will be disappointed, sto w h •11 protest exisd a ether art Act passed last session at the ii-, against your ineffectual legislation, and will ask for further stance of the Master of the Rolls for England, for regulating and more efficient protection ; or, on the other loan , i d 't will ', the general process and practice of the Irish courts extended Pay raise the price of corn, and enable the farmer to ; I for a larger Ito thO 4154 L4checitter Chamber, the ccart 9 , AO Majority The Committee was then nominated as follows :—Mr. Trelawny, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Mr. Henley, Sir David Dundas, Mr. Bright, Mr. Pole Carew, Mr. Alexander Hope, Mr. Horsman, Sir Charles Douglas, Mr. Hardcastle, Mr. John Ellis, Sir John Duckworth, Mr. John George Smyth, Mr. Littleton and Mr. Hey worth. The other orders were disposed of and the House ad journed at Half-past One o'clock. (From the Times.) We have received by express courier from Marseilles our dispatches in anticipation of the Overland Mail from India which left Bombay on the 3d ult. - The following is our correspondent's summary for the month of March:— ".British India is generally tranquil, and the improving state of its public finances is at present the prevailing topic of the Indian press. " Lord Dalhousie arrived at Peshawaur on the Bth of March and left it on the 17th. He was expected at Yizera bad by the sth or 6th of April, and would thence make the best Of his way to Simla. Robbery and murder are still rife at Peshawur. Captain Grantham died of his wounds on the 15th of March. On the same day one of Lumsden's Guide Corps was shot in the Kohat pass, and on the 16th a Resildar in attendance on Captain Daly (who was at the time proceeding through the pass towards Peshawur to see the. Governor-General), happening to go off the road, was also shot dead. _ " Most sum mary measures are, however, being adopted for the repression of these outrages. Mr. J. Lawrence is in vested with f u ll au thority, as a single member of the board , to pass sentence on them, and hangings take place almost daily ; four men were executed on the morning of the 15th , one of them the fellow who stole the trumpet from the artillery lines and fired on the Guide Corps sentry. It is, moreover, proposed to transport summarily to the lower pro vinces any border tribes' men caught trespassing on our a l t u p d re s d . at D io i n ar s ti a a n l d la m w u is rd t e o rs b n e ew de s c e l a p r to. , The negotiations with D me ntioned in my last, a r e ar nt am ar o e un p t ut un an til e t n h d e re de v A a l ll3 a e h o which I host mmed., said to be progressing most fa y. o , u . r T a bnley' hill tribes on the Ind us f rontier, sout h o f P es h awur , are also disposed to be troublesome; the Vizieries having been hovering about the Bunnoo frontier for some time, ready to pounce down en any unproLected part of the line, at last assembled in force at t he foot of the Goomuttee Pass on the Walsh, Commandant at with three of a squadron of the B l4 n t n h n o e f e , March, teek o t n ne v , which Captain against thm cl 2d 2oo Pu p the approach Hammond's guns, n 3 j li au ce b , Cavalry (under' Lieutenant Browne); the 2d' Pun jnaebrelenafanndtriyee(tutudnedrerLLieinituetenannant tEcckefze.l),Oann of this force the enemy showed no inclination to await its attack on the plain, but took to the hills on each side of th e head of the pass, occupying them in groups, which were soon dispersed by the excellent pr=ics of the artillery. A s the force was, however, insufficienr to follow up the advan tage thus gaihed, it was determined to withdraw it; which was accordingly effected, the movement being masked by three or four companies being thrown out as skirmishers, to keep the enemy from making a rush at the guns. " A gaol emeute occurred at Deva Ghazee Khan on the 2d of March, at midnight. Two prisoners took advantage of the inner door of the gaol being momentarily opened to make a rush past the sentry into the outer enclosure of the building, and then threw themselves over the enciente wall, the drop of which (being 25 feet) had been considered sufficient to preclude the possibility of such an attempt; 15 were shot dead by the guard and one wounded in the at tempt ; some were recaptured, and parties of horse have been sent out in all directions after the 26 who got clear off. A court of inquiry was investigating the matter. " Military preparations are quietly • going on at Peshawur ; a force has been ordered to hold itself in rea diness to m eve on the frontier at a moment's warnin g, provisions for two months and the requisite carriages are being collected ; the destination of the force is unknown, but it is rumoured that the Governor-General has offered the Vizieries a certain ultimatum, which it they refuse, coercive measures will be immediately taken. Whatever measures be adopted, there is no doubt but that they will have been careful, considered, and will be effectively carried out. We are now much better acquainted with the various passes, and with the general nature of the hill country, than we were at the time of the former expedition. " The Indus frontier of the Punjaub has been so well de scribed in Major Edwardes' late work that any comment on its present state is almost superfluous. It cannot be expected that the hill tribes of the Dejerat border should discontinue their troublesome predatory habits all at once, and it is as much as could be hoped for to be assured that they are held much more in check than they ever were in Rungeet Singh's time; and that the revenue of Djeerat is now much more fully collected, and that life and property in that province are now more secure than they ever were under any former Government. " No territorial acquisition to our Indian empire has ever been so carefully settled and organised as the Punjaub, and already no province of the empire is more prosperous ; though more lightly taxed than any other district in India. it already yields a considerable surplus revenue (325,5001. exclusive of the sums realized for confiscated property), which will be much increased when the extensive canals fur irrigation, now in progress, are completed. The employment to native workmen afforded by these works and by the new stations, which are everywhere progressing, has caused a de mand for labour in excess of the supply, and thus removed one of the principle sources of danger to which every newly acquired country in which large establishments have been disbanded is at first exposed. An order has appeared for re gulating the enlistment of the Seikhs in our Indian regi ments; not more than 200 Punjaubees are to be admitted into any single regiment, of which not more than 100 are to be Seikhs, who are to be distributed equally among the different companies. No Seikhs are required to cut either their beards or hair, and every means are to be adopted to preserve intact their distinctive national and social cha racteristics. " The improvement of the navigation of the Indus (and incidentally that of the port of Kurrachee) is now the great desideratum for the Punjaub. The little steam-tugs now on that river are altogether incapable of developing the com mercial capabilities of the stream, and it is most desirable that river steam-boats of a larger size, and on the American model which has recently been adopted with so much ad vantage in the Ganges, should be substituted for those at present in use. It is stated that a depot is about to be formed at Kurrachee for the reception of military stores from England destined for service in the Punjaub. " The trial of Jolts Persand still stood for the 27th of March, but it was nut quite certain that all the witnesses would be able to be present by that date. Mr. Wyllyt, C.S., is to conduct the case on the part of Government. Mr. Tandy has been elected secretary . _ to sie North-West Bank, and it has transpired that Sir W. Gomm has addressed a letter to Captains Blois and Watt, exempting them from the imputation of fraudulent motives. but saying that their laxity in monetary dealings was mos', unpardonable, and he advises Captain Watt to pay back the sum received from Captain Barlow. The Nawab of Bahawulpore •s now on a pilgrimage to the Mahometan shrines of Delhi and the North West Provinces, and Sir W. Gomm was expected at Umbella by the 31st of March. "It is said that the Court of Directors have left the ques ion of the augmentation of the Bengal artillery and engineers entirely in the hands of the Governor-General. Major Baker, of the latter corps, succeeds Major Kenedy as Consulting Railway Engineer to Government. " There is nothing new from the .Nizam's territory ; he still continues his own Alinister. The naval Commander-in- Chief, with her Majesty's ship Hastings, 74 ; Fox, 42 ; and Sphynx steam-sloop, were, by the latest accounts, at anchor in the Madras roads. “ The committee appointed by Government to report on the frauds in the collection or the Bombay municipal taxes, while under the superintendence of the police department, is now sitting; as is also another committee, appointed to in quire into the existing system of public works, both as re gards superintendence and execution. The prospectus of the Baroda 'Railway is is ued, and a wooden tramway, 4i miles in length, for the purpose of facilitating the shilmnt,enat of cotton, has just been completed at Dholera, in Goozerit.. a the cost of a few native merchants, at an expens e of 1,4001 mile . _ COMMERCIAL INTELLIGENCE. BOMBAY MAR iiiE D T O S F , Evil : I F: G I:. INCLUSIVE. ARML 2. WEPNEtssnAThere is no stir in moue ',ROl& THE ILTOHMOBFAI,A,RCH TO THE y 2 The Money and Share Mamrkaerk,- unless we went into the tary matters that calls for r r e ary tightness, which has shown bazaar and noticed a tempo generally appears dull, and days,rrincipally amongst Marwarrie - a start at all this season, it would should it intend taking about it, as the monsoon is not now very inththealasdrat drug., Business itself dealersre quire ftoor be quick curities are inactive at the following quota tions Loan, Mrs. ; Sicca Fives, 101 to 102 ; 8 Company's Fives, 98 ; Company's Fours, Sicca Fours t ta jo r n d a i : sta l ut r . ansfe6; Bank of Bombay Shares, 13 per cent. premium; 0 82 rie to nt 8 a l; Bank shares, 17 per cent. discount ; Commercial Bank Shares, 16 per cent. discount; Agra Bank Shares, 8 per cent. discount. - As was anticipated, the past fortnight has witnessed a re vival of business in the import market, though scarcely to the extent which was looked for. In exports there has been very little doing, and the prices of cotton have since the receipt of last English advices further declined. In other articles we do not hear of any transactions. Cotton Pima Goods-For some few descriptions of gray goods an improvement in price has taken place during the fortnight, and generally the market for most qualities ap pears to be looking up, owing: to the diminution of stocks, and the smallness of the shipments known to be on the way out. Business has, as b e f ore , b een con fi ne d almost exclu sively to gray goods, and th e on l y d escr iptions of.blea b a fabrics which have been inquired for were median twill, and shirtings above 66 reed. lies , have been Gray Goods-Madapollams, of coarse n - uall tent of 11,200 Jacconets in good demand, and have sold to the and 2r• pieces, at prices ranging between 2r. piece. Shirting have also been 56 reed 40-inch qualities, for which so on have been obtained. There has also 45-inch CO-reed, and above make _ r. to 15,700 pieces, at from 3r. Jacconets-Sales, 25,600 pisea 2 4a. 6p. per r wan d, particularly in Tri - e wl2 a t better prices b seme inquiry for The sales in all amount to I%r. at I l l ; . 108. tlp. per piece. price has been obtained. been taken for the Per- On these goods also an advance, 3,040 pieces, at 83ir. to In domestics the sales amount races more favourable to Ste ketg, at P sian and Arabian mar 12V. per piece. sellers. Of long and T cloths stocks purchasers than to the , d A nd for the former an advanced are now much red uc•s d The sales have bees 2,000 pieces, These have chiefly price has been obtain-piece. . at 4r. 13s. to 5 1 ,4 fr• Per ~.a goods remain in the same depressed con- Fancy an d '''',;:iy noticed, and the only sales reported are dition as of bleached mulls, 40 >t 20, 2r. 5 1 / 2 a. ; '4OO ditto, 400 Piece - i O O bleached lappets, 30 X 10, at 2r. lla.; 600 at 2 3 A r. ;a n , 38 X 10, at Ir. sa. ; and 1,746 Turkey red str:ps PI t 2r. 514 a. per piece. For most other descriptions scaf* a " . • has rno inquiry been made. li ttle ° The rates of the day are-To London, 21. 58. to Freights- a nd to 21. 128. 6d. ; to Liverpool, 21. 10s. to 31. per ton; ort as i i i ii s, 114 r. to 12r. per candy. For the former p_ in a high as 31.25. 6d. has during the fortnight been paid first-class going ship, and to China 13r. months' sight, Exchanges-For first class credit bills, Si (it had7ceome days since the rate is now 2s. Md. to 2s. %d. "... .s the nominal rate fallen to Is. 11%d.), and for document bru sight, Is. 11%d. ; is 2s. 'Ad. The hanks' rates araw six months'ontbs' sight, Is. 11d.• three months' sight, Is. 11 1 4 u. , two: day's sight, Is. 103 a. one months' sight, Is. 10 - Ad. ; and ° and sight Or. per 100 r., and on On Calcutta we quote 60 days' g China 216 r. to 217 r. per 160 doll s. CALCUTTA. (From Campbell and Burgett's Overland Price Current, March 2 4 .) The Bombay mail ex press letters , with London dates to the 7th of Februa reac h e d us on the 16th instant, and the general dispatch the nex t day, with market reports showing a continued dull tendency of most East India produce, with a further sligh t depression in its value. Shortly after the departure oft f last mail, our export market developed in creased spirit for more extended general business, in a great leading staples still continuing moderate, the measure encouraged. by the downward turn of exchange d o . i ' d not assume the importance commons urate ua t c l i Pt : ii° i in n ess chnation evinced. This tendency has, under a b twr u ilt t sh s s similar influence of a further depression in exerlange, con tinued since the arrival of the abovenamed,berne. advices, a free current of activity being impeded by the intervention beta of three native holidays during the put weet. Indigo PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS, (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) FRIDAY, MAY 2. PROPERTY-TAX BILL. (IN THE COMMITTEE.) Clause 1 (Rates and Duties granted by the said first re cited Act to be further continued for ) : Motion made, and Question proposed, " That the blank be filled up with' three years :' —Afterwards moved, "That the blank be filled with' one year :' "—Question put, " That the blank be filled with 'one year.' " The Committee divided :- -MAJORITY —A Y ES, 244. • ---- - Acland, Sir T. Floyer, John Mowatt, Francis Adderley, C. B. Forbes, W. Mullings, J. R. Anson, Viscount Freshfleid, J. W. Mundy, William Arbuthnott, lion. H. Frewen, C. 11. Naas, Lord Archdall, Captain Fuller, A. E. Napier Joseph Arkwright, George Gallwey, Sir W. P. Neeld, John Bagge, William Galway, Viscount Newdegate, N. Bagot, Hon. W. Gaskell, J. M. Newport, Visct. Baillie, H. J. Gilpin, Colonel Noel, G. J. Baldock, E. H. Goddard, A. L. O'Brien Sir :LueluS Baldwin, Barry Gooch, E. S. Ossulton, Lord Bankes, G. Goold, Wnydham Padre, C. W. Baring, Francis Gordon, Admiral Pakington, Sir J. Barrington, Viscount Gore, W. R. 0. Palmer, Robert Barrow, W. H. Gore, W. 0. Patten, W. Bateson Th om as Granby, Marquis of Pechell, Sir G. Bennet, ' Philip . Greenall, G. Pigot, Sir Robert Bentinek, Lord H. Greene, John Plumptre, J. P. Beresford, William Grenfell, C. Pascoe Portal, Melville ~, Bernard, Viscount Groga n, Edward Prime, Richard Best, John Guernsey, Lord Prinsep, H. T. Blair, Stephen Hale, R. B. Pugh, David Blandford, Marquis Raiford, Sir Henry Reid, Colonel Boldero, George IL Hall, Sir B. Rendlesham, Lord Booker, T. W. Hall, Colonel Repton, G. W. J. Booth, Sir R. G. Halsey, T. P. Ricardo, John L. Bramston, T. W. Hamilton, G. A. Richards, Richard firemridge, Richard Hamilton,tJ. H. Roebuck, J. A. Broadley, 11. Harcourt, G. G. Rufford, Francis Brocklehurst, J. Harris, Captain Rushout, Captain Brooke, Lord Hastie, Alexander Sadleir, John Brown, li. Hastie, Archibald Salwey, Colonel Buck, L.W. Henley, J. W. Sandars, G. Buller, Sir Y. Herbert, H. A. Scholefield, W. Bunbury, W. Herries, J. C. Scott, Francis Burghley, Lord Hervey, Lord A. Scully, Francis Burrell, Sir C. Hildyard, It. C. Seyneer, 11. K. Burroughes, 11. N. Hildyard. T. B. Sibthorp, Colonel Cabbell, B. B. Hill, Lord E. Sidney, Alderman Campbell, W. F. Hodgson, W. N. Smyth, Jelin George Carew, W. H. P. Horsman' Edward Somerset, Captain C as tl e reagh, Vise. Hotham, Lord Sotheron, R. T. H. S. Chandos, Marquis Hu dson, G. Spoo n ord, AugustusChichester, er, Chichester, Lord J. Ilumphery, Ald. Staff Child, 61 - rah Jolliffe, Sir W. H. Stanford, J. F. Chohnehty, Sir M. 'Jones, Captain Stanley, E. 11. Christopher, It. Keating, Robert Stephenson, Robert Clifford, IL M. Kerrison, Sir E. Stuart, Lord 1). Cobbold, John C. King , P. J. Stuart, John Cochrane, A. D. Knigh tle y , Sir C. Stuart, H. Cocks, T. S. K nox, Colonel Sturt, Henry G. Sullivan, Michael Codrington, Sir W. Lacy , henry C. Coles, H. B. Langton, W. H. P. Sutton, II M. Colvile, C. It. Lascelles, W. S. Talbot, C. R. Compton, H. C. Legh, Taylor, T. E. Conolly,Thomas Lennard, T. B. Thesiger, Sir F. Copeland, Ald. Lennox, Lord A. Thompson, Alderman Cotton, W. H. Lennox, Lord H. G. Tollemache, John Cowan, Charles Lindsay, Colonel. Trevor, G. R. Crawford, W. S. Lockhart, A. E. Trollope, Sir S.J. Cubitt, William Lockhart, W. Tyler,ir G Darner, Colonel Long, W. Tyne r ,, Sir J. Dashwood, Sir G. Lopes, Sir Ralph Verner, Sir W. Davies, D. A. Lowther, Colonel Vyse, R. H. W. H. Deedes, W. Lowther, Henry Waddington, David Dick, Quintin L ushin g ton, C. W a ddington, H. S. Disraeli, B. Lygon, Gen. Walsh, Sir J. B. Hod, J. W. Macaghten, Sir E. Walter, John Dodd, G. M'Gregor, Johq Welby, G. E. Duckworth Sir J. . Whitmore, T. C. Duke, Sir james Meagh er, Thomas Whiteside, James Duncan, George Maudeville..Vis. ' Williams, John Duncombe, 0. Manners, Lord C. Williams, Sir U. T. P. Dundas, George Manners, Lord G. Du l're, C. George Manners, Lord J. Wodehouse, E. East, Sir J. March, Earl of Worcester, Marquis Edwards, 11. Maunsell, T. P. Wynn, 11. W. Egerton, Sir P. Maxwell, lion. J. P. Moran, E. T. Egerton, W. T. Meux, sir li. Einlyn, Viscount; Miles, Philip W. S. Farnham, E. B. Miles, William Fairer, James Moody, C. A. Fello %yes, Edward Morgan, 0. TELLEZB. Ilume, Joseph Mentz, G. F. MINORITY—NOES, 230. kliy, Sir T. N. - Fitzwilliam, G. W. Oswald, A. Adair, Hugh E. Foley, J. 11. Owen, Sir John Aglionby, H. A. Fordyce, A. D. Paget, Lord A. Anson, Colonel Forster, Matthew Paget, Lord C. Anderson, Arthur Fortescue, Chichester Paget, Lord G. Anstey, Thomas Fortescue, J. W. Palmer, Rounde.ll Armstrong, Sir A. Fox, W. J. Palmerston, Vis. Armstrong, R. B. Freestun, Colonel Parker, John Bagshaw, John French F. Peel, Sir Robert Mille% M. T. Geach, ' Charles Peel, Frederick Baring, Henry R. Gibson, T. M. Pet°, Samuel Baring, Sir F. T. Glyn, G. C. Pilkington, Jam es Bass, M. T. G ran g er, T. C. Pinney, W. Plowden Bell, Jacob Greene, Thomas , W. H. B P Bellew, lt. M. G renfell, Charles W. Ponsonbowlett,L y, C. ord F. W. ' Berkeley, Admiral Grey, Sir George Berkeley, H. F. Grey,;R. W. Pr i ce , Sir B. Berkeley. C. L. G. Grosvenor, Lord R. Pusey, F. Rawdon, Colonel Birch, Sir T. Guest, Sir John Blackstone, W. S. Hardcastle, J. A. Rißiccteu:do, B. man E. IC Bowies, Admiral Harris, Richard Rich, Henry Boyle, Colonel Hatchell, John Bomilly, Colonel Bright, John Hawes, B. Russell, Lord John Brockman, E. D. Hayes, Sir E. Brotherton, J. Headlam, T. B. Russell, E. Russell, F. C. Bulkeley, Sir A. B. Heald, James Bunbury, E. H. Ileneage,:Edward Scrope, G. P. Henry, Alexander Seymour, 11. D. Busfeild, W. Herbert, Sidney Seymour, Lord Buxton, Sir E. Shafto, R. D. Cardwell, Edward HeYwood, James Heyworth, L. Shelburne, Earl of Carter, J. B. Ilindley, C. Sheridan, R. B. Caulfeild, J. M. Ilobhouse, T. B. Smith, Vernon Cavendish, C. C. 'lodges, T. Twisden Smith, John Abel C ave ndish, G. H. Hogg, Sir J. W. Smith, John B. Cavendish, W. G Hollond, Robert Smythe, George Chaplin,,W. J. Howard, Lord E. Somers, J. P. Charteris, FranCiS Howard, C.. W. G. Somerville, Sir W Childers, J. w. Howard, J. K. Spearman, H. J. Clay, Jaglefl Clay, Sir W. Howard, E. G. Stansfleld, W. R. Clements, C. S. Howard, Sir R. Stanton, W. H. Clerk Sir G. Hutchins, E. J. Staunton, Sir.G. Cobden, Richard Hutt, William Stuart, Lord J. Cockburn, Sir A. Jermyn, Earl Tancred, 11. W. Coke, Hon. E. K. Johnstone, Sir:J. Tenison, Edward R. Colebrooke, Sir T. Kershaw, James Thicknesse, R. A. Collins, William Labouchere, H. Thompson, Colonel Cowper, W. F. Langston, J. H. Thornely, T. Craig, Sir W. G. Lawley, B. R. Tollemache, F. J. Crowder, R. R. Lewis, Sir T. Towneley, John Currie, Ralkes Lewis, G. C. Townley, E.G. Curteis, 11. M. Locke, Joseph Dalrymple, Captain Mackinnon, W. A. Trelawny, J. S. Trevor, Thomas Davie, Sir II M`Taggart, Sir J. T u ih e ll, Henry Dawson, T. V. Mangles, It. D. Vane, Lord H." 'Denison, Edmund Marshall, J. G. Villiers, Charles Denison, J. E. Marshall, W. Vivian, J. H. D'Eyncourt, T. Martin, C. W. Wall, C. B. Divett, E. Masterman, J. Walmsley , Sir J. Douglas, Sir C. Matheson, Colonel Watkins, Colonel Duff, George Manic, Fox Wawn, J. T. Duff, James Melgund, Viscount Wegg-Prosser, r• Dundas, Admiral Milner, W. M. Wellesley, Lord C. Dundas, Sir David Manes, R. M. Westhead, J. r. Ebrington, Lord Mitckell, T. A. Willcox, Brodie .: . "'Alice, Edward Moffatt, George Williams, W. T .,. , Ellice, E., jun. /dolesworth,Sir W. • Williamson, 6 7 ''''' Ellis, John Moncrieff, James Wilson' iiNiatthew Elliot, John E. Morgan, 11. K. G. Enfield, Viscount Morison, Sir W. Evans, J. Evans, William Ewart, William Morris, David Mulgrave. Earl Murphy, F. S. Fergus, John • Nicholl, J. Ferguson, Col. Ferguson, Sir R. Norreys, Lord Norreys, Sir D. Fitzpatrick, J. W. Ogle, S. C. Fitzroy, lion. H. Ord, William Wilrodo: sSirir Charles Enfield, WortleY , J. S. Wrightson , W. B . wyvlll, Mannaduke sod —...... TELLERS. 1.1111, Lord MaroUS liityter, W. G. [ADVERTISEMENT -]—A. 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