The Sun. — London, England, 1851-05-16 00:00:00

FRANCE. - Murder ... •" ••• ••• Cutting and wounding ••• • 86 St a bbing, administering poison::. 13 Concealing births Manslaughter ..• ••• ••• ••• 38 Extorting money under threats... ..„ 10 lisp© •• Assaults with intent 21 Bigamy •-• ••• ••• 27 Assaults, common 5,648 on police ,„ Attempting rescue J •IO6 Obstructing police 304 156 Attempting suicide ... 258 For offences against property commit ted with violence Burglary • Breaking pre,mises • ••• ••• lllOO 8 Robbery „, 61 ,t assaults with intent to rob . . 5 For offences against property without violence:— Stealing cattle, horses, or shop ... 30 Larceny ... 9,328 Misdemeanor ... 686 Embezzlement ••• 242 Receiving stolen goods ... 218 Frauds •-• "' ••• 305 Conspiracy to defraud ••• ... 22 Dog-stealing • •-••-• Pa wiling illegally ••• Unlawful possession of goods ... For malicious offences against property:— Arson Trespasses ••• ••• ••• Wilful damage ..„ Wilful damage to fruit -trees ... For offences against the currency:— Forgery Coining „, ••• ..• ••• Uttering 8 7 0 There is a long list of other offences not included under either of these heads, such as keeping . brothels (8), indecmtly exposing the person (61), exposing inde• cent pictures (1), smuggling (216), perjury (1), poach. ing (10), and riot (18). Of the offences which more immediately show a low state of morality, it must be added that the number of prostitutes apprehended was 2,502, disorderly characters, 4,839 ; drunk and disor derly, 11,420 ; drunk and not disorderly, 12,477 ; re puted thieves, 718; suspicious characters, 3,431; and vagrants, 3,810. ... 199 ... 2,987 -. 2,129 ... 1 The grand totals stand thus:—Apprehended, 70,827; discharged by magistrates, 35,591; summarily dealt with, 30,721 ; censtnitted, 4,515; convicted, 3,589 ; acquitted, 707; and bilis not found or not prosecuted, 219. The number of offences which were summarily disposed of, committed by males of 20 and under 25 years of age, amounted to 4,954, that being the age at which the greatest number appears against the males. The number of females at the same age was 2,017, though the greatest number (2,078) committed by females was at 30 and under 40 years of age. Ot the number committed for trial 1,022 were boys of 15 and under 20 years of age. Of the gross total of offenders apprehended, 10,255 males and 7,582 females, could neither read nor write; 32,750 males, and 15,728 females, could only read and write imperfectly; 3,592, males, and 382 females, could read and write well; and 499 males, and 39 fe males, had received superior instruction. In the pi evious year, 1849, 70,666 persons wore ap prehended, being 161 less than last year. Of that number 34,756 were discharged, being 835 less than in 1850 ; 31,343 were summarily disposed of, being 622 more than in 1850; 4,567 were committed for trial, being also 52 more than in 1850 ; 3.643 were convicted, being again 56 more than in 1850 ; 703 were acquitted, being 4 less than in 1850 ; and 221 were not prosecuted, being twolless than in 1850. Su that, with a larger number of apprehensions, we have a smaller number summarily disposed of, committed and convicted, and a larger number discharged by magistrates, acquitted and not prosecuted. These comparisons might ; be carried to an almost indefinite length, so profuse is the information afforded of the criminal statistics of the metropolis for the last ten years, bat sufficient having been said on the general heads, this article can only be rendered more complete by the brief statement that. of the last year's offenders, 616 have been recognised as having been in custody for felony twice ; 124, three times ; 33 four times ; and 10 five times. There is al so a c l ass ifi cat i on of the callings of the of fenders, which opens a wide field for the investigation of the curious. MINING INTELLIGENCE. (From the Mining Gaze tte. ) ) There has been less activity - ted in mining h m av a i ltft:: shares since our last than we have time, although several transactions bavnentitcall ,, fo l r come ace at the Mining Exchanve since Monday; but on d ti p gate a fair amount of h business has been done.eyaggre ester- day there was more animation in the market •., with every appearance of its continuance. In Foreign Shares business is very dull, and shares generally are on the decline. Australian may be quoted at 4; Coke, 3S to 381; United Mexie:,a, 3:1 to 4. Transactions in the following mines have taken place: -Tincroft, at 5i 6; West Wheal Russell, 14; Mary Ann, 66; Lamherhooe Estate, 721; Trelawny, 51; East Wheal :.teeth , 225. 61; 'East Gurnis Lake, 2; Mold Mines, 164 17; West Wheal Alfred, 1A- I; Garreg,lLl- i; Great W es t Baddorie, 51. to 61; Spearne C:misol*, 1 21.. 10s. ; D evon an d C our tenay, 425.; Catstock United .I, l a t r nes, 61.; East 13orringdon Parks, 205.; Borringdon MP arks, 51. 'V) 51. 10 s .• Warleggan Consols, 20.5. to 255. In consequence of some valuable lodes having been recently• discovered Peter Pa t • Tavy and Mary Tavy, the Mures have risen t considerably, and may now be quoted at fro m 151. 201., with little or no disposition to sell The Austral. Con sols, and East Wheal West Wheal Jewel, Warleggan Con held meetings heal Reeth Mining Companies, have be found in eur this week, full particulars of which will A two.ruouthoither columns. Trethevy mi ne wYa meeting of the adventurers in the sth inst., Henry wa s at the offices in Exeter, on the discoveries lately made, Esq., in the chair. From the of the lode in the eastern level, the favourable appearance resolved that two addition l at the 40-fathom, it ;vas in order as fast as pt men be placed in the end, course, and that four m en ' b o intersect th e grea t cross -e n fl at the 40, to get under e the sh also Placed in the western 30 -f a thom level. It was als o ree oot of on e seen a t t h e Per share be made payable on olved th a t a ca ll o f 1/. or before 20th inst., to which day the meeting Tuesday, the The following is an abstract of the was adjourned. accounts • ceived, 3681. 7s. 6d. ; costs for February,l4iECash re- March, 157/. • 1 la. 6d.; balance paid ,L .118.10 d.; 'ne 66/. 18s. 4d.; leaves balance in favour of mine, 21.trea surer, At the h e al Sydney meeting, held at PlymouthsB.lo3. on the Ist inst., the acco unts showed a balance a the adventurers of SII.I Is. 6d. It was resolvedgatr in order to discharge the liabilites incurred in erecting machinery, and to provide fa' the more efficient working of the mine, a call of 10s. per shar e should be m ade. At the Black Craig meeting, held on the 6th inst., the ii eunts presented showed a bala nce in hand of 5001. 193, 5 3 d d, and a balance of assets over liabilities of 2501. of 4. This balanc e i s exclusive of the e stimated value tons of lead ore to be shipped this week. It was resolved at the meeting to divide the sett into two mines, the new Company to becalled East Black Craig, and the . present proprieto in be offered an in terest pro r,,_ in the Black Craig w In the metalLn markettnew adventure. same position as last iron and lead remain much in the lower prices, althou h week, with rather a tendency to to submit to any redgeutitohe holders do noi, seem inclined Cop per remains firm, with ania' Tin plates arc lower. of foreign copper heve ir home demand; seine small &rate rates. Tin and spel ra te e r t wi'h purchasers at me stock of the latter is daily •i ner reca lin very quiet. The eatang,,bat holders con tinue firm. At the Elerodsfoot meeting held o counts for six months, ending Fe , r the Bth, the an balance in band of 583 /. Is. 3 d., and a u ss u e a , vy, showed a ties of 416/. 163. 63. This did not include over liabili ore sold the same d3y at 12/. 13s. 61 per Bo tons lead Tamar Smelting Company. The shares wereten to the into 1,024ih' , and a dividend of Sc.was declared, ._, divided Th e report of the mine was very satisfactory. At the East Rose meeting, held on the sth instant NtsiWieoounta 11,J, and February w , the , January r-N paid, and Ca- ',Wall(' of 151. p7r share (1,9201.) declared, r lea "'- vi ,g a Nee in hand of 2,1931 ls. 4d. .. :i : At the ii King , -ctionthly m e e ti n g of the • ett and rßedford adventurers, held on - the fi i 3s. _!_l instant, a call of Par Aiwa was made; and it was resolved, in accord ance with-Captain Martyn'a report, that all works in fllomineZst,iimspendid, except ,inking th,e shaft at the s We read in the Messager—" We receive from a positive source some information which will cause a trong sensation, if Ministerial explanations do not promptly lessen the gravity of it. The fourteen re giments of the first military division, which in do not form part of the garrison of Paris, have just . re ceived orders to h o ld themselves readiness to march on Paris. This order, we are assured, has been given confidentially , and directly to the Colonels, by the Minister of War; a n d the Minister is said to , have indicated at the same time the route to be taken by each regiment, and the measures which the troops are to take when they shall be commanded. IVhat signifies thi s mys terious order? With what intention and for what motive bas the Government prepared this concentra tion of troops ? The fear of an insurr ec ti on cannot at present be a serious pretext. The G overnmen t k nows that the present disposition of public opinion and the known resolutions j , of parties, render an e meu t e impos sible. The ournee of the 4th of May, which ex cited such strong apprehensions, fully proved that the Reds do not think at present of raising barricades. What then are the interests which the confidential orders of the Minister o f 'War can protect, or thoie which it menaces ? The wild D ecem b r i sts l oud l y say, it is true, that an end must be come to; they an nounce that the solution will not be long in coming, and that all will be terminated before the 15th of June. We reject the idea that the Minister of WT ar has consented to be the instrument of these absurd and shameful projects, which would have a result so different to that which is announced. But if the Mi• nister of 'War should not wish the public to ascribe bad motive to the orders he has given, he must ex plain them." STATE OF CRIME IN THE METROPOLIS. The criminal returns of the metropolitan police for 1850 bare just been published, with comparative state ments from the year 1831 to 1850 inclusive. The offences are classified, amply but simply ; and from the tables it is found that the number of persons taken into custody have been for offences against the person:— upon the peculiar claims which the society had upon the sympathies of the public. The object of the so ciety was, in the first place, to afford temporary as sistance to female teachers. No less than 879 ladies, in the most varied positions of distress, almost always originating from sickness brought on by the self-imposed labour of the daughter for the parent's support, had received such assistance as amounted altogether to 4,9811. 9s. His Lordship then stated the other object of the society, and said that he had visited that branch of it called " The Home," and he expressed the great satisfaction he derived from the manner in which that department was conducted. The Noble Marquis then made a very powerful appeal to the company on be half of vsonsen, who, as he observed, having been educated in circumstances of comparative affluence, had been obliged, in af%er life, to devote their talents to the training and rearing up of the children of our no bil!!y ; and he pointedly alluded to the very cqeivecal position in which those ladies were placed, depend ing as they did upon the generous and forbearing treat ment they experienced from those to the advantages of whose offspring they were devoting the best energies of their lives. The secretary stated that the dona tions were very liberal :-250/. from her Majesty, 201. from the Duke of Cambridge, 501. from the Noble Chair man (the Marquis of Westminster), 101. from Earl Fitzwilliam, 101. from Lord Feversham, and various other similar contributions, amounting altogether to 1,4801. There was a large assemblage of ladies at the dinner, the greater part of whom were patronesses of the institu tion; the rest were the amiable and interesting recipients of its benefits, to whom the Marquis of Westminster took every appropriate occasion to evince the most gentle manly and cordial recognition. INSTITUTION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS. (William Cubitt, Esq., President, in the chair.) The paper read on Tuesday was " On the Pneumatic Method adopted in constructing the Foundations of the new Bridge, across the Medway, at Rochester," by Mr. John Hughes, Assoc. Inst. C.E. This bridge was described as being designed to con sist of three large openings, a central one of 170 feet in width, and two others, each of 140 feet in width, spanned by cast-iron segmental girders, and of a passage to admit masted vessels to the upper parts of the river, across which a moveable bridge would be placed. Each of the river piers occupied au area of 1,118 square feet, and rested upon a series of cast-iron cylinder piles, 7 feet in diameter, placed 9 feet apart longitudinally, and 10 feet transversely, so that there were fourteen under each pier. The cylinder piles in the abutments were 6 feet in diameter, of which the " Strood" abutment re quired thirty, and the " Rochester" abutment twelve. Each pile was composed of two, three, or more cylinders, 9 feet in length, bolted together through stout flanges; the bottom length had its lower edge bevelled, so as to facilitate the cutting through the ground. The bed of the river was orignally presumed to consist of soft clay, sand, and gravel, overlying the chalk, and accordingly the application of Dr. Potts' pneumatic method for forcing the cylinder piles into the ground, which had been successfully carried out in similar positions, was contemplated; but after a few trials, the ground was found to consist of a compact mass of Kentish rag stone, so that the mere atmospheric action upon the piles, induced by a partial vacuum, would be ineffective in such a situation. It was there fore decided that the pneumatic process should be reversed, so as to give each pile the character of a diving-bell; for which purpose one of the cylinders, 7 feet in diameter, and 9 feet in length, had a wrought iron cover securely bolted to it, through which two cast iron chambers, D shaped in plan, with a sec tional area of about 6 square feet, appropriately called " air locks," projected 2 feet 6 inches above the top of the cylinder, and 3 feet 9 inches below the cover. The top of each "air lock" was provided with a circular open ing, 2 feet in diameter, with a flap working on a horizantal hinge, and an iron door, 2 feet by 3 feet 4 inches, with vertical hinges below the cover; each " air lock" was also furnished with two sets of cocks, the one for forming a communication between the cylinders and the chamber, the other between the chamber and the atmos phere. Compressed air was supplied to the cylinder pile by a doable-barrelled pump, 12 inches in diameter, and 18 inches stroke, driven by a 6 H. P. non -condensing steam engine. At first the expelled water was made to pass into the river, from beneath the lower edge of the pile, but when the stratum became so compact as to op pose a high degree of resistance to the passage of the air, an outlet was formed through the side of the upper most cylinder, by the introduction of a pipe, having the form of a syphon, the long leg of which reached to the bottom of the ,pile, and was subject to the pressure of the condensed air on the surface of the water within, whilst the short leg, leading into the river, had the effect of relieving the amount of compression, provided a va cuum was once obtained in in the body of the syphon. Such an effect was readily produced by connecting the summit with the exhaust side of the air pumps, by a pipe which could be opened or closed at pleasure. 'Co insure the downward motion of the pile, and to give it a weight which should be at all times superior to the upward pressure, two stout trussed timber beams were laid on the top of the cylinder, in a direction suitable for bringing the adjacent piles into action as counter balance weights, by four chains passing over cast iron sheaves. Two light wrought iron cranes were fixed inside the cylinder, the jibs of which swept over the space between the air locks and windlasses, inside and outside, for the purpose of hoisting the loaded buckets and lowering the empty ones. The method followed in working the apparatus was found to be so simple in detail, as to be perfectly intelligible to all the workmen employed. The pumps being set in motion, the flap of one of the air locks, and the door of the other, were closed; a few strokes compressed the air within the pile sufficiently to seal the joints, and whilst the pumping was in progress, the men passed through tho air locks to j their respective stations. When the water was shallow, the pile descended by scarcely sensible degrees, as fast as the excavation by hand permitted; but when the water was deep, the excavation was carried down full 14 inches below the edge of the pile, which then descended, at once, through the whole space, as soon as the pressure was eased off. The most perfect certainty and success had attended the employment of this simple system, and as it pro mised to afford considerable assistance to engineers in the prosecution of similar works, the author laid the ac count before the Institution with the sanction of Mr. Cubit, President Inst. C.E., the Engineer-in-Chief, and : 11 esara. Fox, Henderscn, and Co., the contractors for the wor k s. Mr. E aton H o d g ki nson, w h o had b een recent l y e l ecte d an mem ber, were presented member, and the Chevalier Conrad, l e t r t , presented to the meetin, on attendin side n t for the Brat time since th e ir e l ec ti on . g g t w as again announced from the chair, that the Pre the nr-anbers' s Ann ua l Pre day evenin Co:versus/one would be held on Tues aMay 27th,which the co-operation of collection Of models of engineering con structions,inseeptcieimens of works of art, might be made ; ad the May 20, when the following p aper adjourned until Tuesday, the Isthmus of su, z, and the paper would be read:—" On Joseph Glynn, M. Inst. C.Ee. Canals of Egypt," by Mr. it ONER yanita F w O ou ß ld 'ICE mm o D F oLEdsE , z. A report has just been made I; . 5 , a s p ec i al commit ttee of the Middlesex magistrates, appointed on viih th a e t 17th of October last, "to consider whether e e r be for the benefit of t he count y that an different arrangements shou ld be made for the per formance of the duties now devolving upon ti c o r o ners, or respecting the remun er ation annexed thereto ; also, whether it is desirable that a medical stating officer should be appointed to the coroner's court." ,e,nrdar. 3 The report, which is of some length, enters into the subject of the inquiry with considerable minuteness, but the report of it may be shortly given. After that the committee wore favoured with the at of Mr. Wakley Mr. Baker, Mr. Bedford, and al iiggs, the c-r : Vr. Jardine, Mr. Arnold, and _ mr. ‘. one,s ; A.i. . Broughton, the police magistrates ; and wi'ch cou lartm i cat ., 1 oas from Mr. Paynter and i‘lr. Yardley, THE northern part of the mine, where the bunches of lead are, and with the exception of dressing the ore for market, in consEquence of the men not having sufficient air to work in. At the Wheal Lovell meeting held on the 9th instant, a dividend of 21. per share (8601.) was declared. At the South Wheal Frunces meeting, held on the sth inst., a dividend of 81. per share (1,9841.) was declared, leaving a balance in favour of the adventurers of 1811. 12s. 4cl. At the Carwinnen meeting, on the sth inst., a call of lOs. per share was made. At the Crane and Bejawsa meeting, held on the 6th inst., the accounts for January and February were audited and passed, and a call of 21. per share was made. At the East Tywarnhayle meeting, ,on the 6th inst., the accounts showed a balance in favour of the adventu rers of 353/. 16s. Bd. A call of 31. per share was made. At the Wheal Mary Emma meeting, held on the 9th inst., the accounts showed a balance in hand of 3111. 18s. 3d. Copper ores far sale on Thursday, May 22, at the Royal Hotel, Truro:—Devon Great Consols, Wheal Josiah, Wheal Maria, Wheal Fanny, and Wheal Anna Maria, 1,575; West Caradon, 329; Fowey Consols, 261; Wheal Friendship, 203; Bedford United Mines, 144 ; Poldice, 133; Wheal Maidsn, 36; Wheal Crebor, 33 ; Wheal Jewel, 25; Peopol Regulus, 25; Copper Bottom, 24; Point Regulus, 18. Total, 2,806 tons. Exports of metals from London for the week ending Thursday last :—lron, 534 cwt. to Malta and Alex updris; iron nails, 22 cwt. to Caps of Good Hope; tin, 12 cwt. to Gothenburg, and 199 cwt. to N ew Y or k ; blacklead 67 cwt. to Dunkirk, and 20 cwt. to Rotterdam; spelter, 100 cwt. to Rio Janeiro; quicksilver, 168 lbs. to Stockholm, 737 Ib3. to Lisbon, 15,1201 b. to Dunkirk, and 2131 b. to Gottemburg. GOVERNESSES' BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION. This institution held its eighth anniversary at the Lon don Tavern on Wednesday, when the Marquis of West minster presided, in the absence of the Duke of Cam bridge, who wrote a letter of apology, saying that he was obliged to attend a dinner given by her Majesty at Buckingham Palace. We regret to say the meeting was not very numerously attended, but the Noble Chairman was nevertheless most respectably supported by Lord Feversham, the Hon. G. Rice Trevor, M.P., Mr. E. King Tenison, M.P., Mr. E. Baker, jun., Mr. G. F. Carden, Mr. W. Ewart, M P., Mr. B. Edgington, Mr. F. W. Fairholt, Mr. W. Gilpin, Mr. J. W. Hale, Mr. G. Henderson, Mr. H. N. Nissen, Mr. F. T. Pratt, and several other gentlemen with whose names w eare not acquainted. After the usual loyal toasts, the Noble Chairma - a proposed " Success to the Governesses' Berevolent Institution," and, in doing so, .he dwelt POLICE INTELLIGENCE. BOW-STREET. Yesterday John Mark, alias Cotton, an escaped con vict, John Law, Anne Law, John Hughes, and James Davis, were brought up in the custody of Thornton, the detective officer, charged with being concerned in com mitting a highway robbery. It appeared that on the night of the 7th instant, as Mr. Ebenezer Peacock, of Wilstead, was returning home from Biggleswade market he was stopped by three men dressed as " navvies," who took from his possession 35/. in country bank-notes, a 10/. bank-note, a 5/. note, and 10 sovereigns, in a knitted silk and bead purse, a gold watch, with a short gold chain attached, with the entire contents of his pockets. The first-nrniod prisoner also answers to the description of a convict named Cot ton, who eff.:cted his escape with another from Dartmoor Prison, in Devonshire, on the 15th April. Mr. HALL inquired if the evidence about to be offered related to the escape from prison, or to affect all the prisoners as to the highway robbery? Thornton replied, that from the description given in the Police Gazette, he had no doubt that Mark was the man, the marks on every part of his person answering it in every particular, coupled with the tact of his having found lying on the bed in which he was apprehended, a flannel shirt having the letters D. P., and the broad ar row stamped upon it, and he also found in the same room a gold watch and chain, with a quantity of money, and other property in the possession of the others, which he had reason to believe was a portion of what Mr. Peacock had been robbed of, although he was not yet in a position to prove that they were directly con cerned. The prisoner Mark was under sentence for ten years, and it was a remarkable fact that he found all the prisoners in the same house, which was advertised as being the same to which the escaped con v i c t s were i n th e habit of writing letters. The prisoner Mark denied that he was the person alluded to, his height, age, and other marks not agreeing with what was stated against him; besides, where he was apprehended was a common lodging-house, and the property produced was not discovered until he had been conveyed to the station. Thornton submitted that he had given sufficient evi dence to cause the prisoners to be remanded, particu larly as he was anxious to receive further instructions from the Solicitor to the Treasury as to what course he ought to pursue. Mr. HALL said that an escaped convict could be pro ceeded against whenever he was apprehended, but there was some difficulty in what manner to treat the present case, there being a suspicion of a hi g h way ro bb ery i n another part of the country, and he would order the pri soner to be reminded. WORSHIP-STREET. ' An elderly man, nansed Jesse Ludford, described as a ''lass•melter in Dodd's-place, Bethnal-green, was brought befire lir. Mammal, in the custody of Rowland, the warrant officer, charged with having violently assaulted and otherwise ill-treated his wife, by forcibly placing her upon the furnace in his workshop, whereby she had sustained serious pPrsonel injuries. 'From the evidence of the complainant, one of whose arms was shockingly scorched and inflamed, and her face much swollen end contused, it appeared that on the afternoon of the 6th instant, being in want of money to procure food and other necessaries for her children, she went into a small factory adjoining the dwelling-house, where her husband was at work, and requested him to supply her with some, but was an swered with the most abusive epithets, accompanied by a positive refusal. On renewing her application, and upbraiding him with his unfeeling conduct, she was im mediately seized by the defendant, who carried her to the furnace, in which a strong coke fire was burning for the purpose of melting glass, and thrust her down upon it. She managed to escape at that time without sustain ing much injury, but was again seized by the defendant, who repeated the same barbarous conduct twice after wards, and on the last occasion her hands and arms were dreadfully burnt and her dress partially destroyed. The defendant then renewed the attack upon her, and, after beating her unmercifully with his fist, seised her by the hair, and repeatedly dashed her head against the wall of the apartment. She had been compelled previous to this to obtain warrants against him, and he had been committed to prison for his cruelty towards her. The complainant added, that ever since the last attack she had been under the constant care of a surgeon, and was still suffering severely from the injuries she had received. The complainant's daughter was also examined and fully corroborated her mother's evidence. In answer to the charge the defendant said that his wife had assaulted him first by scratching his face, and that she had accidently fallen into the fire while he was en deavouring to repel her violence. Mr. lislimna, said that a more cold-blooded and brutal outrage had seldom come under his notice, and he should order the defendant to pay a penalty of 51, or he committed in default for two months to the House of Correction. THAMES. ASSAULT AND HIGHWAY ROBBERY.—TWO notorious fellows, named O'illiant Wall and Joseph Prince, who haunt the infamous locality, Brown Bear-alley, and re side at 11, Groen-yerd, Whitechapel, were finally exs mined, charged with assaulting Morris Hackett, a Por tuguese, of the ship Heroine, lying in the London Docks, and stealing 15s. from his person, about one o'clock on Wednesday morning. The prisoners, in their defence, said they merely asked the prosecutor what he was doing with the young woman, when he pulled out a knife, on which they rushed upon him to prevent him from doing them any mischief. The.prosecutor denied this, and said he had no knife about him; a fact which the constable also attested. Th 937 were both committed for trial. SHIP NEWS. GRAVEEMND, MAY 15.—Wind N.E., light, fine. Arrived—Ocean, from Rotterdam; Antwerpen, from Ant "P; Lord John Russell, from Harlingen; Famo, frooa Calais ; Jolliffe, from Havre ; Earl of Auckland, from Rott er d am; Trident, from Porto Rico; Fantoine, fr om Jamaica ; M onarch, from Calcutta; Ca• roline, from Callao ; Ellen from Uddemalla; Nieholaus, roam William Nichol, from the South Seas; Minerva, from Memel; Richard Hindson, from Oporto; Australasian packet, from Cadiz; Calypso, from Jamaica; Anne Maria Elizabeth, from Denmark; Paul, Irina Sff°7 police magistrates ; and from Lord Murray, Court of Session, and Mr. Bach, a well-known German jurist, the report says, " Upon considering the subject with the assistance thus afforded them, as well as with the advantage of some personal experience on the part of most of their own members, and after look ing at the objects of the coroner's office, the objections to its present constitution, and its position relatively to the other institutions of the country, it became a question with the committee whether the main tenance of a separate tribunal for inquiries into the causes of death is, under existing circumstances, really requisite, whether all such inquiries ought not in fact to be treated as a part of the general criminal proce dure of the country, and whether they might not be wholly committed (as they already are partially) to the same authorities which have the conduct of criminal investigations principal objections which have been urged against the existing system may be taken to be its ex pensiveness and (connected therewith) the immo derate exercise of the powers of the office, the cum brousness of its machinery, the exceptional mode in which the coroners are appointed, the want of sufficient publicity in their proceedings, and the in convenience and discredit conseqeunt upon the con current and originally conflicting jurisdiction of the coroners and the magistracy." The following facts are stated in the report :—" In the course of twenty years the cost to the county of Middlesex for inquests had increased nearly sixfold, having risen from 1,2841. in 1828, to 8,1931. in 1848. In 1828 the number of inquests held in Middlesex was 1,151, and in 1848, 2,449, showing an increase of be tween 112 and 113 per cent. In Westminster the number in 1821 was 250, and in 1848, 326, the increase being 30 per cent. only, whilst the increase in the western division was 127 per cent., and in the eastern division 146 per cent. The in crease of population in the same time the committee estimate at 30 per cent., whilst crimes against life have diminished. In 1849, out of 2,674 inquests in Middlesex, the criminating verdicts, including those against persons unknown, were 36, viz., 18 cf murder and 18 of manslaughter, and, taking the average of ten years, the number of such verdicts has been less than 1-4. per cent. of the entire number of inquests. The committee recommend that measures be taken to obtain an Act of Parliament to transfer to the magis trates the preseLt powers of the coroners ; but, should the office be continued, the com mittee recommend the payment by salary, in stead of by fees, as at present; that the po lice should be employed to get up the evidence, and to summon the coroner, instead of the parish con stables, who are now remunerated by fees. The com mittee have no hesitation in condemning the use of juries at inquests ; and with regard to the consolida tion of the office with the jurisdiction of the magis tracy, they recommend that, if that suggestion be adopted, the present appointments should not be inter fered with ; but that as vacancies occur, they should not be filled up, and the duties at once transferred to the magistrates. The committee think that, so long as the coroner's office exists, the expenses attendant upon it should be paid out of the Consolidated Fund, and not out of the county rate." After recommend ing the appointment of a medical gentleman, at a per manent salary, to make post mortem examinations, the report says :—" The committee would advert to one measure that has been on several occasions sug gested by persons who have interested themselves in the reform of the law, and which, though proposed with a view to other proceedings, might, the committee think, be applied with great utility to those which form the subject of the present reference." The measure alluded to is the appointment of public prosecutors on the same footing to a consi siderable extent with the Procurators Fiscal in Scot land, to conduct criminal proceedings on behalf of the Crown. To such officers, if in existence, notices of all deaths apparently requiring the holding an inquest might be given, and it would then be their duty to inquire into the circumstances, and bring them, where necessary, before the proper t r ib una l . It might still be left open for any other individual to bring forward on his own responsibility any case which the public prosecutor might not think proper to take up. The report will be extensively circulated. ~.-- - 1r- den ; Chri:tiane, from Memel ; Laura, ft om anatzic ; Gratitude, from Ceylon; Penelope, from U antzle; Davis, from Porto Rico; Salem, from Charente. Sailed—Ocean Queen, for Constantin ar le; Mary, for Leghorn ; Trident, for Jersey ; James , Shepherd, for Hong-Kong; Mohawk, for Sydney; Rajua t han, for Bom bay ; Ranger, for Bremen ; Heroine, f0:7. , Valparaiso ; Light of the Harem, for Rio Janeiro; Swat m, for Liver pool; Arab, for St. John's; Duke of Novi blk, for Bar badoes; Venezuela, for Havre; Menai, ftx.7 Calais; Soho, for Antwerp; Fyenoord, for Rotterdam. VESSELS SPOKEN WITH. Walker barque, of Newcastle, bound o ,wards, April 22, off Cape St. Vincent. City of Poonah, from London to Bengal,„ May 7, in let. 46 N., long. 9 W. SEABORNE MAILS. 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I Mon., Wed., & Fri. 17th of the month Twice daily .. ! 7 thl7th27thermo !Tuesday & Friday !Wednes. & Satur. 117th of the mouth 'Twice daily.. 20th of the month 17th& 24th ofmonth 20th of the month 7th& 24th ofmonth 2d of the month.. 9th of the month 17 th, 1 7th,19th,27th1 &30th of month sth 15th 25th of mo ' sth 15th 25th of mo i l 7th 17th 27th of mo' jl7th of tho month sth 15th 25th of mo' 17th of the month :2d of the month .. ountries thus mar] and from CaWorn!: Me by every Ameri( IMPERIAL PARLIA3L ENT HOUSE OF LORDS, May 15. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat ai the Woo; sack at Five o'clock. The Duke of ARGYLE presented a p j :ition nume rously signed from the inhabitants of the Is L Ind of Arran against Papal aggression. 'The LORD CHANCELLOR present( d a petition from the solicitors of Bristol against gi i iing to the county courts judges jurisdiction in haukr u ptcy. The Earl or HA RRO WBY presented se , r era! petitions ag-,inst Pcpal aggression. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY pr(n rented a pe tition from a congregation of Wesleyan . 5 letbodists in Durham against Papal aggression.. Ho air 1 gave noti ce that he should pres e nt t o -morrow a piti t ion from the shipowners of South Shields, complainin of the de pre..l - ion of their trade, produced by th e 1.1 Teal of the navigation laws and th e extension of railway 3. CRIMINAL LAW AMENDMENT BILLS. At the suggestion of Lord LYNDHURS! r, the Com mittee on these Bills was postponed till Tu(s iday. CHANCERY REFORM BILL Lord LYNDHURST called the atte3 tion of his Learned Friend on the Woolsack to the pis )nise which he had made at the beginning of the sessio o , that a Bill for the regulation of proceedings in t} ta Court of Chancery should in a short time be press u ited to their Lordships. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that t'h a Noble and Learned Lord had himself presided over the Court of Chancery for many years, during which ha must have been aware of the existence of these evils, arm I yet he had left the remedy to be applied by his SUC,3 ?ssors. His Noble Friend at the head of the Governmet ,t had asked for leave to bring in a Bill in the other 11017 a e to remedy the evils of which his Noble and Learned Friend had complained ; his Noble and Learned Rriend had commented upon a former occasion on that Bill, and had offered several valuatil e sugges tions; he had himself also received see Vera! valu able suggestions from different member ra of the profession, and had requested the Noble 1 .ord at the head of the Government to postpone the nsi ‘asure until he should have had time to consider those s uggestions. He (the Lord Chancellor) had considered the m, and had drawn up a Bill, which would be laid on the, table very shortly. Loid LYNDHURSr wished to know mi hether the Bill would be introduced into their Lordships ' House. The LORD CHANCELLOR was underta toed to say that it would. INCOME-TAX. Lord LYNDHURSII drew thPir Lordships ' attention to a clerical error in the Income-tax Bill. 'll ie tax was voted for one year, and yet mention was made of the last term of one year. Novf, how there could be a last term of one year in a year he could not understand. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that inquiries should be made on the subject. The Noble Marquis then gave notice that he should move the secou d. reading of the Bill on Mo ,, day. Dad LYNDHURST again asked how thera could be a last term of one year itt a tax voted only for I one year? Earl kiREY said that the fault rested with t.l le gentle man who had moved the amendment, and who had worded it very clumsily, but there could be no doubt as to the meaning. Lord BEA UMONT said the Bill read very absurdly, but there could be no doubt as to its interpret tation, as the last term of a year of a tax, voted for a 3 ,, ear, could only be a year. Their Lordships then adjourned. ROUSE OF COMMONS, May 1.5. The SPEAKER took the chair at Four o'clo k. The Stroud and Glouctster Road Bill was r a ad a third .me and passed. The Christ Church (Southwark) Parish Bi 11 was read a second time. PETITIONS. A number of petitions were presented in fav , our of the Ecclesiastical Titles: Bill; also others prayin g that it might be rendered more stringent. Mr. BAILLIE presented a petition from Inverness against Lord Melgund's Education Bill. Mr. W. J. FOX presented a petition from )ldham in favour of secular education. Mr. DUNCAN presented a petition fron Dundee, praying for an alteration in the method of le vying the duti-s on home-made -spirits in bond. Mr. KEOGH presented a petition from 8 pitalfields against the Religious Houses Bill. Mr. S. CRAWFORD and the Earl of ARV:" NDEL and SURREY presented petitions from Rochdale to the same effect. Mr. JOHN O'BRIEN presented a petition from the mayor and corporation of the city of Limet! . ick, in fa your of the Towns' Improvement Bill (I r eland), as amended in Select Committee. MR. KELLY. In reply to a question from Mr. MOORE, Sir WILLIAM SOMERVILLE stated that the Lord Chancellor of Ireland had caused a letter to be addressed to Mr. Kelly, a justice of the peace for the county of Sligo, requesting him to state whether or n.o a report of certain evidence which he had given on a, trial in the Common Pleas, and which bad been published in the Times, was correct. Mr. MOORE gave notice that he should move for copies of the correspondence. COURT OF CHANCERY. On the motion of Mr. HUME, returns;were ordered of the number of persons committed for contempt of the Court of Chancery, from the month of April 1827, to the present time, with a specification of the of ..tiers under which the commitments were made; of the number of prisoners in contempt who have been discharge I since the year 1827, under orders obtained by the solid tor acting for paupers in contempt, the costs of obtaining the order in each case, and the name of the solicitor acts ng for the pauper; and, of the number of prisoners in contempt discharged under the Act 1 Will. IV., C. , 36, by the governor or keeper of any prison, without a a order of the court; and the term of imprisonment in ety oh case. BORD OF HEALTH. --: - Mr. HUME, seeing the Noble Lord at the K sad of the Board of Health in his place, wished to Ltsk him a question on the subject of a Bill that was now before the House. The purpose of the Bill was to render valid the orders of the Board in re spect of six boroughs, one of wii ich was Yarmouth. Now that town was opposed to tli e Bill, but the five others were not, and he should th erefore be glad to know whether the Noble Lord had an 3 objection to make that town the subject of a separate Ba Lord ASHLEY said the Hon. Gentleman sr as labour ing under a mistake, as he had no connexio)3 whatever with the Bill. DINGLE WORKHOUSE. Mr. REYNOLDS wished to ask the Chief Secretary for Ireland a question respecting the investigation held in the Dingle workhouse, county of Kerry; all d wheth er the Protesta n t c haplain, and other paid o ffi cia ls, alleged to have bribed Catholic paupers to become 1) rotestants, are still continued in their respective appoints ants? Sir WILLIAM SOMERVILLE had no iz formation whatever on the subject. INTERCHANGE OF LEGISLATIVE R ECORDS WITH FOREIGN COUNTRIES. Mr. STANFORD asked Lord John Russo 11 whether any application had been made on the part of foreign Governments, especially those of France and t he United Staten, for an interchange of the records of th e proceed ings of the respective Legislatures, and other documents, such as returns, reports, kand political sta cistics; and whether it was the intention of the Govern= ant to bring the subject under the notice of Parliament? Lord J. RUSSELL said applications had been made through the ambassadors of several foreign 4:ountries to the Foreign-office for an interchange of legislative re cords, and that they had been referred to the Speaker to exercise his discretion as to the propriety of acceding to such demands. CHIEF SECRETARY'S OFFICE (DUBLIN). Mr. SCULLY asked the Chief Socratary fbr Ireland, PETITIONS. The Earl of ENNISKILLEN presented, several peti tions from parishes in Galway, Cork, Cara r I, and Long ford, against Papal aggression ; also sever s l petitions in tavour;of a grant to the Church education: t. t societies of Ireland. • NING-, MAY 16, 1851. if Mr. Winter, one of the principal clerks in the Chief Secretary's -office in Dublin, was about to retire; if such retirement was caused by anything which ap peared in the recent report of the Commissioners who tried the case of Duncan Chisholm (alias George Mathews), late clerk in the same office ; if Government were about to give Mr. Winter a pension for his past services ; if any information had been yet received of the arrest of the said Duncan Chisholm ; the date of the instructions to the police authorities for same, and the steps since taken to carry them out ? Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the retirement of Mr. Winter was entirely voluntary. He had been a public servant for nearly 40 years, and after that length of ser vice he had expressed a wish to retire. He had always been a very efficient and able officer. He did not know what arrangement bad been made with respect to his retiring pension. As to the other question, he did not think it advisable at present to state what steps had been taken by the Government for the arrest of Duncan Chisholm, as ho was yet at large, and such information might defeat the ends of justice. SUPPRESSION OF SLAVE TRADE AT BRAZIL. Sir J. PAKINGTO7 . .i asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he intended to make any communication to the House, or to lay any papers on the table, in explanation of that paragraph in her Majesty's Speech at the opening of the session, in which she stated that " the Government of Brazil has taken new, and, I hope, efficient measures for the suppression of the atrocious traffic in slaves ?" Lord J. RUSSELL said his Noble Friend (Lord Palmerston) would, no doubt. if he were in the House, give an answer to the Hon. Gentleman's question; but he was happy to say that the accounts which had been received gave fresh confirmation of the statement as to the extinction of the slave trade at Brazil. MR. FIUME'S MOTION. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE apologised for his absence in the House at four o'clock on Tuesday, saying he thought he should have been in plenty of time at half-past four, and gave notice that, as Mr. Hume had fixed his motion for the 3d of June, he should on that day move an amendment to it, to the effect that the House would at the earliest opportunity next session take into its serious consideration the representation of the people with a view to the extension of the elective franchise. WINDOW TAX. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE then asked the Noble Lord when it was his intention to proceed with the second reading of the Window Duties Bill? He understood that there was no opposition to be offered to the second reading. It was hoped that the measure would have been proceeded with before the income•tax. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the Hon. Member for Finsbury must be aware that there had been certain notices of motion given for the remission of taxes. It was, therefore, a matter of consideration with the Go vernment whether they woull press forward the Win dow Duty Bill before such notices had been disposed of. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE asked the Noble Lord whether there was not a distinct understanding that the window tax was to be repealed? Lord J. RUSSELL had stated distinctly a week or ten days ago that the Government were most i anxious to proceed with the Wi n d ow T ax Bill ; b ut that theft: n tentions respecting it must depend upon the decision of the House in reference to other matters. BOARD OF HEALTH. Mr. HUTCHINS asked the Noble Lord the Member for Bath (Lord Ashley) whether it was the custom of the Board of Health to appoint as their engineers those gentlemen who go into the country for the purpose of reporting upon the propriety or otherwise of extending their operations to particular towns or districts? Lord ASHLEY said he was not aware that it was the custom for the Commissioners to do any such thing. CONFERENCES. Mr. LABOUCHERE reported that the Lords desired a conference with that House upon the subject of con ferences generally, and appointed the same to take place immediately. The following gentlemen were then appointed to con duct the conference on the part of the Commons, and left the House for that purpose:—Sir J. Graham, Mr. C. Lewis, Mr. Bernal, Mr. Disraeli, the Attorney and Solicitor-General, Sir J. Young, Mr. Cardwell, Mr. Herries, Mr. Christopher, Sir F. Thesiger, Mr. Haytor, Colonel Dunne, and Mr. Labouchere. Upon their return, Mr. LABOUCHERE informed the House that the managers on the part of tho Commons had agreed to the resolutions proposed by the managers on the part of the Lords, and they had submitted a resolution to the House of Lords desiring their concurrence to the same, which resolutions they had left with their Lordships. A messenger from the Lords soon afterwards ap peared at the table to request another conference with the Commons. The Hon. Members appointed to conduct same imme diately left the House for that purpose, On ther return, Mr. LABOUCHERE informed the House that the House of Lords had agreed to the resolution of the Commons which was communiolted to their Lordships that day. THE ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES BILL. Mr. KEOGH asked the Hon. Member for Midhurst (Mr. Walpole) whether the rumour which had prevailed that some understanding or arrangement existed between him and the Government with reference to the amend ment of which he had given notice respecting the Eccle siastical Titles Bill was true, and if so, whether his views were in consequence likely to be altered?—(Cries of " Hear," and " No.") Mr. WALPOLE rose for the purpose of giving a reply, but in deference to a general cry of" No, no," he resumed his seat without saying a word. Mr. REYNOLDS then put a similar question to Lord John Russell. Lord J. RUSSELL said the proper time to ask such a question would be when the House went into a Com mittee on the Bill.—(Cheers.) Mr. REYNOLDS presented petitions from the Ca tholic inhabitants of the following places against the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill, and the Religious Houses Bill :—Ballymore Eustace; Culfeightine, Antrim; Kir lanevin, county of Cavan; Dromcree, Armagh; Dran crilly, Leitrim; Donegal, Donegal; Ballinascreen, Lon donderry.; Holloywood, Wicklow; Crosserlaugh, Cavan; All Saints, Donegal ; Angleton, Lancaster ; Lesgon, Armagh ; Ballyneose, Sligo ; Clonclane, Leitrim; Geogar and Rathdowny, Queen's County ; Donagh, Monaghan ; Doorane and Mayo, Queen's County ; Brecon, Brecknockshire ; Kamcron, Antrim; Blessing ton, Wicklow; Navan, Meath; Durcroff, Kildare. The reading of the prayers of this number of peti tions by the Hon. Gentleman occupied nearly twenty minutes. Mr. O'FLAHERTY presented several petitions against the Bill from various parts of Ireland ; as did also Mr. Greene, Mr. Keogh, Mr. Megan, and Mr. John O'Con nell. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES BILL. ADJOURNED DEBATE. Oa the order of the day for the resumption of the ad /owned debate on the above Bill, Mr. SCULLY rose to oppose the motion, upon the grounds stated in the petitions which had just been pre sented to the House, and because ho believed the Bill of the Government was not founded on fact, and that if carried into a law it would be dangerous to the moral and social condition of Ireland. In addition to the other grounds which had been stated by the Noble Lord as rendering the Bill necessary, the Noble Lord had taken this further ground, that the aggression—as ho was pleased to call the ac t o f the Pope—had arisen from a desire on the part of " his Holiness" to interfere with the constitutional liberties, not only of this country, but of every country in Europe—that, in fact, it was a part of the revolutionary tactics now in operation on the Con tinent, and that it was intended to create a disturbance between this country and Ireland. Now he (Mr. Scully) would be sorry to say that the measures of the Pope had been taken with any such object. He knew that his policy previously was the very reverse, and there was proof of it in the Italian states, where he had adopted quite a contrary course, and had never en couraged revolution. He had looked into the reports made to the Noble Lord at the head of Foreign Affairs, and found in them evidence for arriving at a totally dif ferent opinion. The Noble Lord (J. Russell) said that no aggression had been made in foreign countries similar to that which had been attempted here. But the reports to which be referred conclusively showed that that could not be the ground upon which the Noble Lord intro duce the Bill. The Hon. Member then quoted extracts from various papers which he held in his hand, in order to show that in Austria, that in Prussia, in Greece, and in Belgium, the Pope did exercise the power of nomi nating bishops without the previous intervention of the state. It had been said that the proposed Bill would do no more than the Act of 1829 did. But when the Hon. and Learned Member for Athlone (Mr. Keogh) asked the Noble Lord if it would be enforced, the Noble Lord evaded the question, and said if the clergy in Ireland continued to act in future as they had hitherto there would be no necessity for enforcing it. What did that mean? Did the Noble Lord mean to say that there had been no infraction of the Act of 1829 in Ireland? Were not the creation of the bishopric of Galway and the severance of the united sees of Cloyne and Ross, with the creation of a bishop for the latter see, an infrac tion of the Act of 1829; and if so, what meant the Noble Lord's reference to the clergy acting as they had hitherto done? He believed that the reason the Noble Lord could not enforce the Act of 1829 was that the 7,000,000 of Roman Catholics in Ireland would not submit to or endure their bishops being fined 1001. for every episcop a l f unct i on which they dis charged. The Act of 1829 was violated in other respects. In a case that came before the law courts in Ireland some time back, documents were given in evidence which eree ssigned by Dr. Murray as Archbishop of Dublin. lie wanted to know, then, since they had found it impossible to enforce the Act of 1829 in those respects, whether they meant to enforce the present Bill if it should become law, and if they did not mean to en force it, why should they pass it at all? The Noble Lord said that the measure of the Pope in creating the En glish hierarchy had invaded the prerogative of the Crown; if th a t were so, had it not likewise invaded _et_he prerogati ve i n t h e colonies to create bishops there!' t no Bill of thi s ki n d had been suggested for thecoloen dis trust Y es. The only eff ec t o f the i r measure wou ld beto c reeep le of at and susp i c i on i n the minds o f t h e Irish all their A cts , w hi ch m i ght b e well-intended people. It but which would fail of b e i ng r e garded as such entertained of the give consistence to the It would damage the national system of education and couldaffecting ne the t b spiritual deniede t c h u a r t e llo w p i without fu Queen'snc t i s e o e f l l e t g h e e l; theita s uspici onsinacett by any person acquaint priest could be appointed.e twitho his i t s he parochial matter, of the prelate's proper as such his appointment beam i ng . the signature of the bishops of the dioceses L pans priers could r. )t name; but as the insteadThelliprohhibited parish e .bishops., assuming be duly appointed, and the whole Roman Ca tholicany tn-ritorial title, would become and the parochial clergy would be parochial system Ireland dieoreat,Zed, merely as missionaries in the country. It was then said that the introduction of a hierarchy into this country would he aceompanied by the introduction of the canon law, and that i t wits neeessary to protect Roman Catholics from the tyrannical exercise of the powers of that law, rs shown, for instance, in ceses of excommunication. Were Roman Catholic ecclesiastics the only ones who excommunicated? Why refer to the excommunications in Sardinia—.the circumstances of which, by the way, he might observe, hed been greatly exaggerated? Why go to foreign countries for in stances when they hod some nearer home—the excom munications which had been referred to as having been exercised by a Protestant bishop in Scotland? They need not fear any tyranny at this time of day from the undue use of the power of e xcommunication, especially in this country; fur the parties who should be affected by excommunications had their remedy in the law of the land, and a recent case in point had occurred in Ireland, where a layman who had been excommunicated by his parish priest brought the matter before a court of law and obtained damages against the priest. Another rea son for opposing the motion was to be found in the amendments of which notice bad been given, and which, if carried in Committee, would tend still more than the Bill in its present form to drive the people of Ireland to acts of civil vita lance. He advised the Ncble Lord at the head of the Government to withdraw his Bill, and leave the sub ject in the hands of those Hon. Members who had put these notices on the paper. The Noble Lord refused to tell the House what course ho would take with respect to the amendments until they got into Committee. But he told the Noble Lord that it was his duty to declare his intentions on a matter of so much importance before the Speaker left the chair. The conduct of Irish Mem bers with reference to this Bill had been impugned, hut what was the course pursued by the Whigs in 1846 with respect to Sir R. Pool's Coercion Bill? They first sup ported it, and then, seeing that a prospect presented itself . of displacing him from power, they turned round and violently opposed it. This measure would raise a cry in Ireland which would never be subdued until coma mea sures were introduced really beneficial to that country; and be believed that a pledge would be exacted from candidates to oppose all measures oppressive to the Ro man Catholics, and to snare no efforts to put an end to the maintenance of a Church with immense revenues to minister to the religious wants of a small minority. H e again advised the Government to withdraw this 13111, and introduce measures of real utility. The Noble Lord was much mistaken if he supposed that he could suppress the Catholic feeling of Ireland, which was only beginning to manifest itself. This Bill was looked on as the in troduction of the small end of the wedge, which must necessarily be the precursor of ulterior measures. Mr. 'EGG-PROSSER said her Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects asked for religious freedom, not be cause they were Roman Catholics, but because they were Englishmen. Was it right to contuse the instuoce of England with the case of other countries which had never enjoyed the great blessings of religious liberty? The question was, whether Ireland was or was not to be included, and it Ives said that to include it would not fail to stir up a spirit of disaffection in that country. To this, the reply of the Government was, that it was a question of the Queen's prerogative, which extended to both countries. What was the conclusion to be drawn from these conflicting arguments ? Why, that the Queen's prerogative was not concerned in the matter, and that it was a mistake and a fallacy to put it upon that ground. The best argument was, that it was neces sary to prevent the establishment of the canon law, which, totter certain circunattences, was supposed to clash withltho common law of the land. Ito was not enough of a lawyer to say exactly how that might be, but he very much doubted the accuracy of the position. Be that as it might, those who professed the Roman Catholic religion must take the consequences of it, whatever they ucight be, and it was absurd to step in for the purpose of defending them from injuries to which they themselves declared they could never be exposed. Very unfair arguments had been urged on this point, based upon quotations of obsolete enactments, for the purpose of proving that danger existed from the exercise of the Pope's temporal power. This might have been a valid argument in the middle ages, but the usages of those times have passed away, and there was no one who believed that they would ever be revived; nor was the argument brought forward except for political or party purposes. If the Pope had intended to form political combinations dan gerous to England, he had taken the very worst method of carrying out his object. A more plausible argument, perhaps, was, that it was an invasion of the Queen's prerogative, because he had divided the kingdom into territorial districts, and conferred titles of honour. With regard to the first ground, he would observe, that if a bishop were to exercise any authority, it must be within certain districts. With regard to the second, he might remark that the word title wes used in an equivocal sense. It might be a title of rank—(Hear)—or it might be a description of the capacity in which a man acted, and that was its meaning in this case.—(Hear, hear.) Another point which had had great influence on some minds was the supposed insults which had been offered to the British nation, Ho could not help thinking that there was a great deal of national vanity mixed up with this cry.—(Hear, hear.) lie did not think the House of Commons could deny that epis copacy was of divine origin, or that it was improper for the State to interfere with religious matters. There was no danger now with reference to the Roman Catholic religion; there might have been danger at one time, but that time had passed. Because there had been a great outcry in the country, and because the country had been lashed into fury, the House of Commons conceived they were bound to do something, but they did not know pre cisely what. Now this was quite wrong, for it was the duty of the House of Commons to moderate public ex citement, not to pander to it. Would not every one who reflected on the proceedings in Englund during the last six months feel ashamed of what had been done? If every one did not feel ashamed, then he should feel ashamed of his country. He was scandalised when walking the streets of the metropolis to see the symbol of their common religion—the cross, made a mockery of. He should give his strenuous opposition to the Bill. Mr. CAMPBELL would remark that Irish gentlemen appeared to have committed an inaccuracy as to the ob ject they should pursue and the cause with which they were entrusted, in resisting the motion for the Speaker leaving the chair. lle would remind Irish Members that the success of resistance must depend on the talent and energy with which it was conducted. Mr. TRELAWNY would implore her Majesty's Go vernment not to allow themselves to go on with this Bill. He was desirous of supporting Government, but in this instance they had got into a wrong groove, and therefore lie could not support them. If the Bill were successful, it would be a persecuting Bill; if it wore simply a name-culling Bill, then it would be abusive; and in either case it could not have his support. He could not see any harm in giving the Roman Catholic bishops these titles. Where was the consistency of Go vernment in supporting the Bequests Act, the grant to Maynooth, and the Education Bill, and objecting to these titles?—(Hear.) The canon law might be oppressive; but if it were so, it was a matter that concerned Ca tholics and not Protestants ; let, then, the Catholics fight the matter out with their superiors. He considered that a law like the present, instead of checking the progress of the Roman Catholic religion, would tend very much to strengthen its position and spread its doc trines. Mr. P. HOWARD said the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) had stated that the friends of liberty all over the Continent were looking with anxiety at the decision of the House of Commons. He should be glad to learn what continental legislative assembly had expressed an opinion in favour of the Bill passing. It was not the friends of liberty, but the friends of intolerance, who wished the Bill to pass. He advocated a friendly feeling with Austria, and he also advocated liberty of conscience in Eegland and everywhere else. He would remind the House of the liberality which prevailed in France towards other religions than that of the na tional religion. A Protestant at that moment filled a high post in the French Government. Ono of the arguments which seemed to have most effect on the House had been used by her Majesty's Soli citor-General, who spoke of the execrable mixture of the spiritual and temporal which degraded his (Mr. P. Howard's) faith. He would attempt to grapple with that argument. In feudal times, owing to various causes, a very great amount of political temporal power was conceded to the Sovereign Pontiffs. Bat with the fall of feudalism that temporal power ceased. But had the assumption of power been really abandoned? He would prove it had been disavowed by one of the moat learned of modern books. In Pope Leo Xll.'s encyclical letter to the Mexican President this remarkable declaration was made, " That the peculiar office of Pope required that Popes should not interfere with any affairs not con nected with the church." It was a mistake to suppose that the popular feeling of E ng l an d h a d b een un i ve rsally expressed against the pr ocee di ngs o f t h e Pope. not The had great counti es of L ancaster and Middlesex had any public expressio n o f op i n i on on t h e subject. the county represented by the leader of the m Opposition in a g i n o s n t the th e that House (Bucks) had not had a countrstedeeiaign question. From 1793 to 1829 no law Catholics of England having bishops, e a x nd the restriction imported in 1829 on English bishops having titles was en2 As the Catholics of from Irish Acts of Parliament. the State, the Go- England claimed no support . I legal h th nd ei y r tittin spiritual vernment had no claim to interfere in ui te e r r f e er7 ey the affairs.—(Hear, hear.). oxist, and it was • h pain with Catholics of England did not they had read the vituperative language u se d b y the First Minister o f the Crown in his l etter to the Bishop o f Durham on the subject. Such language wa-e he believed , without a precedent eith er i n this or any other country. It ought not to be forgotten that the nation was indebted for Magna Charta, and the great foun d a ti o n of its liberties, to C at h olics. It ought to be kept in mind that the origin of th e quarrel between Henry 11. and Becket was the interference of the King with the election by the chapter of Canterbury, and that when the Sovereign Pontiff assert( d a temporal autho rity, the first person who stood forward to protest against it was Archbishop Langton. The Catho lics of the present day had no desire to interfere with temporal affairs, but they would resist any interference of the civil power with their spieitual rights. He had always bee n , an d would always he, a supporter of poli tical reform and of civil and re ligious liberty; but he would oppose all attempts, such a s this Bill, which inter fered between men and their Malcer.—(Hear.) The LORD ADVOCATE said it would be unpar donable for him at that late stege of the discussion to enter upon the question in any detail. Although the aggression might not have , produccd so strong and immodiato a demonstration of public opinion in Scotland as it had in England, still, as it had excited considerable interest in Scotland, he felt anxious shortly a nd simply to reflect the the opinion of the peeplo of Scotland on the sti Joe. He should confine hia,:itlf and to state hi s owe. to the broad and simple principle upon which it ap peared to Lim the question mainly clopondcd.—(Hear.) In the outset, he might be permitted to say that quite as universal es the feeling of indignation at the proceedings of Rome wes the feeling of regret that ail circumstances should have occurred to render the pr , ' sent measure necessary.—(Cries of " Hear, heart') Since 1829 he believed there had been in this country, and especially among the Protestant part of the comma' pity, a sincere, honest, end growing desire that religiou§ differences should mingle as little as possible with relit giouc diecussions.—( Fit ar, hear.) The removal of dis abilities, whether from Catholic or from Protestant Die' seaters, had induced a more friendly intercourse among persons of all religious denominations, and that increased intercourse had naturally led to greater liberality of opinion on all sides.—(Hear.) So far from their being any desire in the people of this country to revive the old flame of religious intolerance, or to ransack ancient sta• tutes for forgotten penalties against Roman Catholic§ and other Dissenters, he believed the very reverse to be the fact; and the moral which he drew from the expres" sions of opinion which had taken place was, that nothing but a sense of over whelmisg necessity could ever have prompted them,—(Hear.) it was not difficult to disco' ver the real cause of the whole agitation. Several B oa t Gentlemen wh o h a d t a k en a part in the debate bad spoken as if th e b ran d o f discord which had been thrown among the people had come from the hands of the Government.—(Hear, hear.) He should accept that. as , the real t es t o f t h e quest i on at issue. Cons id er i n g tO . a , the measure said t o h e so i nto l erant h a d come from !Ile hands of a party who had fought the battle of t oleration in the worst o f t i mes—who from 1829 had been ti-f, strongest end firmest supporters of the principle h o t toleration, but wh o , i n id ent if y i ng themselves with t a principl e , h a d not escaped the sneers and taunts o f the opponents of Roman Catholic concession, he thought it was perfectly p l a i n that nothing could have pro mpted them to introduce such a measure unless it was a strong and overwhelming necessity.—(Hear, hear.) In hiec au humble opinio n , th e P apal rescript was the caw° o '„ili. the division of opi n i on t h at had arisen, and was i". Merit reason why, at least, some measure should be la; troth:Tod, not SO much For any encroachment it mad e the supsemscy of the Queen, although that alone stroller have justified the meat-tire, nor for the political character of the Church of Rome, hut for that which lay at f ace root of both these points—the assertion on the ' e- af of the rescript, in language not to be mistaken, B ' o spiritual domination and supremacy, not over li° l; :t is Catholics only, but over the whole population of country.—(Llear, hear.) If the Roman Catholics this country, or if the Pope in concert with theta' had come t o th e G overnment l i ko dissenters an d other tolerated bodies, and with that courtesy and humility (Hear, hear)— an d w i t h t h at respect which ought t°.},- b shown•towards the G overnment and institutions o f te country in which th e y li ve d , an d had intimate d :belt , desire to re-organise th e i r hi erarc h y on the foot i n g best adapted to ecclesiasti ca l government, he did not i n )Sin e e that the Government—h e was sure that the peop l e of l ot country, attached as th e y were to to l erat i on—wou ld ap t 6 have been inclined to inquire particularly into the 'OP ) by which they might wish to affect it.—(Hear, h° 61. :1, He did not say that whet had been done could have been done under any circumstances; all he meant to say. wee' that if the Roman Catholics had manifested a desire. re-organise their ecclesiastical hierarchy in conforall'ila with the laws and constitution of the land, they she . 11 , now have had a totally different question to deal wilit' be# (hear.) But he could find nothing of that kind in ' l ,, rescript. So far from speaking the language of one as ing for toleration, it r ea d lik e t h e language of one hod the will, though not the power, to be i n tolerant' o (Hear.) The titles g i ven were b ut t h e reflect i on o f ra he assertion of ecclesiastical su p remacy put forth 1116 a rescript.—(Hear.) It had be en sa id t h at no cla i m had ;',",f, made for tempor a l su p remacy . I t appeared to him before admitting the claim to spiritual supremacy ill 'bt sense in which it was set out in the rescript, they oug ra to recollect that th e l' o p e ' s c l a i m to temporal supra:l%lj —even when his domination was at its beight - f c rra based on his s pi r i tua l supremacy.—(llear.) It ha d be said that the Pop e ' s r escr i pt was necessary , fecal's° i , Roman Cath o li c hi erarc h y was incomp s lete withou t 6 , and the Ho n . an d L earned Member for Athlone had r b ferred the House t o var i ous b odies of dissenters, whop asserted, had the p ower o f do i ng the very thing Roman Catholic bishops and the Pope were now hibited doing. But there was a great difference betwe' tho acts of voluntary associations within the king (lo ,l; and the acts done by persons at the court of a fort r potentate.—(Hear.) Be s id es , no di ssenting body, as r'",, as ho knew, had ever do ne , or h a d ever attempte d to ; what the Pope had done. Neither the Wesleyane 13° 4 the Free Church of Scotland claimed any power ex, r e e i r ie over those who belonged to their own persuasion. Scottish Episcopal Church had been referred to, and a e o lusion had been made t o Bi s h op Ski nner, of A b erd e en ' who, it seemed, had excommunicated one of his clergi; men for an ecclesiastical offence. That case / c e very illustrative of th e argument h o was now m ain taining. The Bish o p h a d pu b l i shed a sentence " excommunication, whi c h t h e c l ergyman d id 0 01 , choose to submit t o , an d conceiving that the Bl a b% had no right to publi s h suc h a sentence, the clergYo3%, brought his action in th e courts of Scotland. The MON' came into court and described himself as Dr. Sirill l3er i exercising episcopal functions within the district °.. Aberdeen. The que s ti on arose whether D r. Skinnecl was privileged to exercise such authority as he b a d exercised. As far as the case went, the Court fa% that there was no privil ege i n th e case, an d t h e ca se wa s terminated by a compromise. That case, therefore, was the worst illustr a ti on w hi c h cou ld b e g i ven o f th power of the Scottish Episcopal Church to assume title° or to exercise power.—(Hear, hear.) He denied that it was an essential element of toleration to grant to ate" lerated body all the privileges which it might think ne cessary for the perfection of its system. A single WO" tration would suffice. It might be essential that their clergy should be protected in the exercise of their die' cipline, and yet the exercise of that discipline might be inconsistent with other laws of the lend. No doubt 0 clergyman of the Established Church could O r anything which the law a ll owe d , b ut i t di" not follow that those clergymen who were only tolerated, and who were not in the same position as regarded the law, could do the same t hings; He (the Lord Advocate) spoke as a dissenter hints!l l, and not as a member of the Church of England. H e should be sorry to think that it was any attribute of th e principle of toleration that any person should come for ward and claim a right to predominate as a spiritual ruler over the consciences of the people of this country . That, indeed, would, in hi s o pi n i on, b e t h e d ea dli es t blot' that toleration could r ece i ve . H e ( t h e L or d Ad v ocate) denied that Honourable Gentlemen on the other aid e were the advocates of toleration ; and he was perfectly satisfied that the measure under discussion did not trench in the slightest degree on the principle of toleration- He (the Lord Advocate) had said nothing of the Ear° . peen view of the matter, though that was insisted 0 111 1 many as of much impo r t ance . I t h a d b een thoug ht tha t the Act of the Pop e was d er i ve d from a source much eider than the apparent sound; but as there had been 6 public assertion made in the most unequivocal languag e that the Pope had a r i g ht to j ur i s di ct i on over t h e lends it could not be passed without noti ce . I t m i g ht be said that this assumption s h ou ld be despised; but seeing the effect the question had in Europe' this country could not afford to despise it.—(Eiear, h ea r.) It was quite plain to him— an d t h e people of this coun try "" was satisfied felt in th e same way—that if it were true this was only a tentative measure to he followed uP by others of a si m il ar nature, the Government cou ld net afford to treat it with contempt, without giving encou ragement to other A c t s , t h e d i rect tendency o f which would be to promote religious intolerance as well to civil discord. H e b e li eve d that it was true policy t stop it at once.—(Hear.) On the other hand, he tboug that the Government could not afford to despise it, h e ' cause the people of England were as strong in their Pr d' testantism at this day as they were in th e y ea r 1650; am:: that if the measure before the H ouse h a d not b e en intr° duced, when an insult bad been offered to their fait h ' nothing would have suffered so much, in his opinion, als the sacred principle of toleration, which might have been swept away in the high tide of public indignation. -- (Hear, hear.) As regarded the measure, what was wanted was a strong expression of feeling on the subject. No party in the country had a better right to complain of the act of the Pope than the true-hearted and loyal Catholics of this of .i others coluntry. that could perhaps be devised to excite bad feeling s, while at the same The measure e b r efoee the House went the least „ time it was all-sufficient for its ob j ec t. Toleration ba d been talked of. Was the measure an infringement of h pr i n ci p l e ? Was the Act of 1829 an i n f r i ngement of the t princ i ple of toleration? Hit was not, th en h ow could.l7. thi s m easure be called an infringem en t o f t h at principle which on ly met an assumption of spiritual authority over the poops of a district on the part of the Pope.- - (Hear, hear.) He did not know enough of the system of the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church to speak positively; he was, h owever, told it was impossible f o r it to exercise its practice unless it took titles from terrie torial districts. But had the Roman Catholic bishops in this country exercised their functions for the last two centuries, or had they not? And if tbey have, had thel taken in t h at period territorial titles from the districts in which they ministered ?—(Hear, bear.) He asked for information on the subject. In the Scottish Episcop al original Church, system, tli'hichconformed as closely as possible to t he orditnaakteinon placeand thefor the ad same administration of the sacrament had d: though it was not until within the last few years that the bishops had assumed territorial titles and eccle siastical dignity. The passing of the Bill would not, therefore, interfere with the functions of the Roman Catholic bishops. R e p resenta ti ons h a d b e en made to the effect that the people of Scotland cared very little for the question at issue. The reverse, t Idovr- hat ever, was the case.—(Hear, hear.) It was true _ they had a great fe a r o f P o p ery i n t h e nor th, and F 7 thought, therefore, that it was not derogatory to t" dignity of his fellow -countrymen that these demonstr.fr tions were not greater; b ut those who t h oug ht t l3° temper of the co un t ry was c h anged were gr i evous ly rol a ' taken when they imagined that the old spirit of Scot land was abated in that respect in the slightest degree, or that because the people had become more tolerant' they were one whit l ess s t rong i n their fetith.—(llear' Mr. REYNOLDS was re j o i ced to hear the legal voice of Scotland in the debate, though it was certainly feeble and moderate ; th e l ega l vo i ce of England his,' been heard from th e mou th s of the Attorney and So: eitor-General; the fi let l aw off i cer of the Crown for Ireland was, however, silent. —(Laughter.) He (fi r ' Reynolds) wanted to hear that lion. and Learned Ge e : tleman describe the law and feeling of Ireland.--( 1 7; laugh.) The lion. and Learned Lord Advocate he" tallied of toleration. —(Laughter.) What was tolera tion?—(Laughter.) Did the Hon. Gentleman mean that ten millions of her Majesty's subjects, who believed ird, the faith of th e i r ancestors, were only to be tolerated' . It was an offensive, Catholics an infamous p s h ould haverase. The Right Hon. Gentlemen said the e i to ,t r :u d g u il ct i e e d r themselve s w i t h h umility. He (Mr. Reyno ld s ) d id n ot ine 3 erstend the a p p li cat i on o f that phrase.—(Laughter and Hear.) He (Mr. Reynolds) did not entertain any fooling of humility.--(Laughter and near.) On tine