The Sun. — London, England, 1851-07-05 00:00:00

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Tb o rich they hlf ,ested not ow e 4 and Lear n timing ti e r, Of disseo 92° amnion, o°° 4o t, would be ' (Cheers.) b • nse and W 1.% reat, that af t th tain a heari°°- its seat. :anion, left tb Seared .. 208 .. 129 _79 , t i s received °I 00 1 4 ' To les/ e .O itch, p. 2, 1 i U 4 t the iollow%o rnc.d to be," o l ly convicte%t• d upon ihd ! ; to depart , 11 ,, in such jo l ly iths from 51) , 0 ent, under "re or the court, shai l o t ich indictiv.e,ol Sty's Priu.l!.l3, .. n t ; and it ; 0 iin this r o 'oo ed, it oholl TRE SUN, lawful for her Majesty's said Secretary of S t a te, and he is hereby req u ir e d, by warrant under his hand and seal, to glove such person in charge to one of her Majesty's met aeneers, or such person to whom ho shall oink fit to direct such warrant, in order to his Ewing conducted out of the kingdom in such manner as shall be suitable to his character and station; and it he shall return to this kingdom after he shall hive been adjudged to de - Part, and shall have departed or been removed as afore said, he shall be liable to be sent beyond seas, as is Provided by an Act passed in the tenth year of the reign of his late 'Majesty King George IV., c. 7, in t he case of Jesuits and members of religious orders.' " The Hon. Member addressed the House in support of the motion for nearly half an hour, but was accompanied throueii out with such laud and incessant cries of " Read," " Di vide," and other undefinable sounds, that not a single sentence reached the gallery. As we understood there was no seconder to the motion, Lord t 7. RUSSELL said ho would consume as little of the time of the House as possible in replying to the mo tion of the Honourable Member who had just sat down. "(Cries of "It was not seconded.") Oh, he did not un derstand that. In reference, then, to the last amend ment of the Hon. and Learned Member tor Abingdon (Sir F. Thesiger), as that point had been already suffi ciently argued in the House, he (Lord J. Russell) pro posed to leave the question in the hands of the law offi cers of the Crown to take it as a matter of state; and he, therefore, moved the omission of the words relating to a common informer asking the consent of the Attorney- General to prosecute. Sir F. THESIGER said, as the question had been sufficiently argued, he would not occupy the time of the House in any further discussion upon it. The House then divided, when there appeared — For Lord J. Russell's motion 124 Against it ••• ••• ... 175 Majority against the Government --51 Upon the question e that the Bill do pass," the House again divided, when there appeared — For the motion ... 263 Against it ... ... 46 Majority in favour of the Bill ... --217 The Bill was then passed. Upon the title of the Bill, " To Prevent the Assump tion of certain Ecclesiastical Titles in respect to Places in the United Kingdom," Mr. H. GRATTAN had, he said, to move an amend ment. He was in the library when he accidentally heard that the Bill had passed.—(Hear.) He did not complain of this. He intended to have been present at the divi sion, but he understood that the fullest time had been given.—(Hear.) The fault, perhaps, would be said to be with those who ought never to have left the House — (Hear)—hut the Irish Members had no fear of meeting their constituents, and of giving a due account to them of their conduct. The Bill that they had now passed would affect the Roman Catholics in their social condi tion of life—it would affect them in their marriages. and therefore he submitted that there should be another title to the Bill—that it should be called A Bill to in validate Catholic marriages, and to discourage the Roman Catholic religion in Ireland." It was a Bill of pains and penalties, even though the Attorney-General attached no importance to the amendments. Such was the Bill that was passed; but let not Ministers say that it was the fault of the Irish Members. The Irish Slembers who could have voted were no more than 35, and the majority was 80. Hence, the "-ostentatious defection" of the Irish Members,which had been referred to would not have affected the ma jority. The Government had not any claim upon them. Those who sanctioned their proceedings might laugh at the Irish Members. They might call them the "Irish brigad es e and the " Pope's brass band "—they might call them what they pleased, for he told them the Irish did not care for their censure nor their vituperation, for they were determined upon doing their duty, even though they felt that in that House they were powerless. Upon this Bill the House decried against a majority of the Irish Members. It was the same with other questions. Lately upon one question there were 31 Irish Members on One side, 9 on the other. Tho 9 succeeded, the 31 were defeated. Upon another question there were 29 Irish Members on one side, 35 un the other; the 29 succeeded, and the 35 were defeated. And on a third question there were 20 Irish Members on one side, and 28 on the other; the 28 were defeated, and the minority succeeded.—(Rear.) In the course, however, that was now pursued towards the Irish people , he saw the rase i l i zation of a threat on the part of the Govern ment which had been made some time since. It was said , " that the Irish Catholics and Rcpealers should take care what they did, because if they went on as they had been douse for Borne time back, they would be handed over to the Irish Orangemen." These words, he said. were spoken in the Castle of Dublin, and to a person who was at that mo ment a Member of that House.—(Rear.) Tne people of Ireland said of the present Ministry that they were the murderers of the country.—(Hear.) Such had been their conduct; but still, he said, let them not suppose that they would put down the spirit of the Irish people, because they had invalidated their marriages; and to ex- Pose them to the same hardships of which an account would be found in " Howard's Popery Cases," and where the Noble Lord would see how the Roman Catholics had been affected by the legislation of the Noble Lord's pre decessors.—(Hear.) He trusted that they would remain United in peace and amity, notwithstanding this Bill. Re begged leave now to move that the Bill should be entitled " A Bill to prevent the free exercise of the Ro man Catholic religion in the United Kingdom." Mr. REYNOLDS seconded the amendment. Sir J. GRAHAM said he cordially concurred in the sentiment which the Hon. Member who had just sat down had addressed to them. From his heart he wished that no circumstances might ever occur to shake the union between Great Britain and Ireland. Though he was of opinion that the commencement of this affair was unfortunate, yet the termination appeared to him more unfortunate still. He had taken part in two divisions with his Hon. Friend in opposing and endeavouri n g to resist certain alterati ons, which had been termed amend ments, of the Bill, and which gave a greater strin gency to the Bill than the Government thought either safe or desirable. Certainly, under the arrangement, which bad been made, he did expect that a full and ample opportunity would be given for one more discus sion on the principle of the Bill before it was sent up to the other House. He must say that the Speaker hasi given every Hon. Member the fullest opportunity of ex pressing his opinion; and he took blame to himself, under the particular circumstances, that he had not proposed the adjournment of the debate, in order that still further opportunity might be given to those who were—not, per haps, surprised at the speed with which the question was put that the Bill do pass—but absent from the divi sion and had not returned in time. He thought the cir cumstances altogether unfortunate. Still he should sug gest to his Hon. Friends at the other end of the House — with whom be cordially agr eed on the subject of this Bill —th a t it would be more dignified not to take ano ther division or to prolong the discussion of the principle of the Bill, in the form of a discussion on its title. He should wish them also to recollect that the fat ther pro gress of the Bill in its altered shape was under the guid ance and subject to the responsibility of the Government. That resp onsi bility was a grave one , a nd he was sure the Government would feel it as such. They ought also to recollect what this country owed to the Noble Lord with respect to its civil and religious liberties. All that had passed with respect to the present Bill ought, he thought, to inspire not England only, but I reland also, with the hope that in the last resort its religious liberty might still be safe under the Noble Lord, the present chief adviser of the Crown. Under all these circum stances, it his Hen, Friend took his advice he would not Press his amendment to a division, but would acquiesce in the Bill being now sent up to the Lords. Sergeant MURPHY hoped the House would allow him to make a few remarks in answer to the somewhat' ungener o us attack made upon him by the Ho n. Member 1 for Meath. Though hehad been present during the dis- ' cussions of this Bill, he had taken no part in them. The measure had been of so fluctuating a character that he had waited for the third reading in order to take a com prehensive and a correct view of it. He trusted the Rouse would believe that he was a sincere opponent of the Bill. As an arrangement had been made to take a debate on the third reading, he had come down prepared certainly to express his opinion on the Bil,1; that h e i e t a rt ß ai i n ll ly do had pas not i heard the wo rd s fr o m the chair , and when he rose he was told he was too late. The attack of the Hon. Member for Meath was therefore, un generous. Th e Hon. Member wa s familiar with the tone of newspapers in Ireland, and he knew that, in con sequence of the course he (Sergeant Murphy) had p ee _ l' e t te,d on this Bill, he had been maligne d in a manner that ``, ha had gone to the Queen's Benc h for a criminal in formation, he might have visited the persons who had so attacked him with two years' imprisonment. To-night the lion. Member and his friends had the unspeakable folly to walk out of the House, and thought to rid themselves of their own folly by telling the people of Ire land that he was the traitor. Mr. GRATTAN assured the Hon. and Learned Gentleman he was mistaken. He had never said any thing derogatory to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman's character. Mr. REYNOLDS said ho would have been well con tent if the lion, and Learned Sergeant had confined his remarks to the vindication of his own conduct. He would not doubt his sincerity, because he recollected that on the hustings at Cork he had told the electors that he would not pledge himself - to vote on all occasions against Ministers. and that he thought the present Bill a mere brutum fulmen (Ssrjeant Murphy dissented). When the Ron. and Learned Gentleman designated their conduct as sublime tolly—a phrase he never heard before—he must remind him of the way in which they had been treated, and of the breach of faith on the part of the Noble Lord with respect to the clause proposed by the lion. Member for Athlone. He protested against being dictated to as to what course he ought to take by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. With respect to the question before the House he confessed that the request of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon was to him, in a matter of this kind, almost a command. He and those who acted with him owed the Right Honourable Baronet a deep debt of gra titude his conduct with reference to this Bill; anda so far as he was concerned he wa s dis p osed to the occupiers of the Treasury bench. But he had to re mind the Right Hon. Baronet that it was distinctly un derstood that by allowing the Bill to be read a third time _ e they reserved the right to discuss it in its next sta g e. H_ . entirely agreed that the conduct of the Speak er on the occasion was above all blame. On returning to the Rouse he and his friend found the passages choked, and were endeavouring to force their way into the House While the question that the Bill do pass was being p ut. The first voice he beard was that of the lion. Member for Meath chili:ning his right to be heard, when he was overruled. The Hon. and Learned Member for Cork had pleaded deafness, but on a question of such impor tance he ought to have been more upon the watch. He now threw the responsibility of this measure of pains and Penalties against the free exercise a the Catholic reli- &ton on the Gentlemen opposite. The Cathelice cf. this country could not accept the letter ot credit clivett by the Right Hon. Baronet on the Noble Lord itt Eavoer h of their religious li bert y , when they cons.ieered ;3'.. , 67 he ad acted with regard to this Bill. Ou every peel::: occasion he weuid proclaim to the Catholics of -Ireland that even for religious liberties they must rely on their own exer tions, and they must combine if they wished that all the rights and privileges granted by the Act of 1829 should not be frittered away. Mr. LAWLESS protested against the language of the Hon. and Learned Memb- r for Cork. There wee a clear understanding that a discussion shoul take n d be on the question that the Bill d o pass; and the Nobl Lord at the head of the Government ought not to have allowed that question to be put and carried in tee way it had been. Even the Right Hon. Baronet had admitted that such conduct was unhandsome.—(No, no.) Sir J. GRAHAM wished to explain. He had dis tinctly stated that the Speaker had given every Mem ber the fullest opportunity of moving any amendment; but he had never stated that the conduct of the Noble Lord was unhandsome. Mr. KEOGH said that he and his friends were unfor tunately unable to reach the House in time; and unfor tunately the Hon. and Learned Member for Cork had not heard the question put. He rose on the present oc casion to ask his friends to assent to the proposal of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon. The services which the Right Hon. Baronet had rendered at all times to the cause of religious liberty demanded of them, where religion was attacked, the completest acknowledgment. After all these motions ageinst the Bill, it was fortunate that the responsibility of it rested, with the Noble Lord at the head of the Govternmtnt, and that in no ordinary manner; for, though the Noble Lord had altered the Bill, and bad accepted propositions on which he had been defeated, still he said that the Bill was his.—(Hear, hear.) On the Noble Lord rested the responsibility. He believed it was a weight his strength would not be able to bear. Mr. AGLIONBY thought a very unfair attack had been made on the Noble Lord, and that it was unwar rantable in any one to say that the Noble Lord bad pre vented a discussion being taken on the third reading. An Hoer. MEMBER—No one said so. Mr. AGLIONBY continued—lf no one said so, his observation fell to the ground, but his ears could not deceive him. The Hon. Member had charged the Noble Lord with preventing a discussion on the ques tion that the Bill do pass.—(Hear, hear.) The ques tion was deliberately put from the chair, and as if the Speaker expected some one torise he looked to that part ot the Clouse where the Hon. Gentlemen who opposed the Bill sat, and expressed as much surprise by his looks as he (Mr. Aglionby) felt that no one rose.—(Hear.) In fact, the Speaker, in putting the question, had paused twice before declaring that the ayes had it. He denied that the responsibility of the Bill in its present shape rested with the Noble Lord. The Noble. Lord had op posed the obnoxious clause, and he (Mr. Aglionby) had divided on the same side. The public would be of opi nion that the Members who had abstained from voting against the obnoxious clause were as much responsible for the clause as the Noble Lord. Mr. MOORE said that, let their responsibility be what it might, the responsibility of the Bill still rested with the Prime Minister, for he had taken charge of it, con taining a provision diametrically opposed to his own de clarations, even in the present session. There were cer tain bulls of the Pope which were absolutely necessary for the appointment of Roman Catholic bishops in Ireland, and it would be impossible to prevent those bulls. That clause of the Bill. however, rendered penal that twhich was admitted to be essential for the administration of the Roman Catholic religion e in Ireland. The Noble Lord eas responsible for tnat clause, although he accused the Irish Members of being responsible for it. However, they should feel it to be their duty to violate that clause as soon and as openly as possible in Ireland. The Noble Lord might proceed as he was proceeding, but he ought to recollect that he only held his positition as the hack of the opposition, and not as the Prime Minister of Eneland.—(Hear.) Colonel SIBTEIORP had been surprised to hear that a considerable discussion had taken place on that stage sf the Bill. He had not expected it, and that would, he coped, account for his absence. He could not look upon he present measure as other than an act of great poll • deal cowardi aon the part of the Goverement. He oelievtd the Noble Lord did what he intsnded to do— namely, deceive the Irish Members, and did very little to maintain the religion of his country or the dignity of the Throne. Lord J. RUSSELL said there were circumstances which had ocurred within the last few days which might be liable to misconstruction, of which they had a proof within the last half hour. Yesterday, he believed it was the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for the Univer sity of Oxtord had said, as there were several amend ments to be proposed, if they were adopted, it would be desirable to take a debate on the questioq that the Bill do pass. He (Lord J. Russell) had said be thought it would be more convenient no doubt to take the discus sion in the shape the Bill would ultimately assume. It would be for the opponents of the Bill, of course, to de cide when they would take the discussion, whether on the third reading or on the question that the Bill do pass. Now, the Hon. Gentlemen thou g proper to absent themselves; and when the Speaker, immediately atter the discussion, informed the House that the question before it was that the Bill do pass, he confessed he was surprised that no Honourable Member had risen t c ommence the debate.—(Hear, hear.) The Honour o able Gentleman the Member for Clonmel thought proper to charge him with the fact that no debate had taken place, although that Hon. Gentleman and his friends were absent from the 1101183. Surely, then, no blame could rest upon him for that. The Hon. Member for Athlone, too, was angry, because a proposition which he had suggested had not been adopted, and yet he had triumphed over the defeat of the Government upon en amendment which would have carried out that principle of his own proposition. He did not think the clause pro posed by the Hen. and Learned Member was necessary in the Bill. He did not consider that he lay under any responsibility for the Hon. and Learned Member for Abingdon's amendments. He did not want to shrink from any responsibility which he ought to bear; and that which he should incur was this, that when these amend ments were carried, when he took charge of the Bill, could he recommend the House to pass it in the shape in which it then was? His responsibility con sisted in considering whether he could adopt the Bill as it was. On that question those who were in the same situation with him, considering the intro duction of that Papal rescript last autumn to have been a serious aggression on the independence of the Crown and the rights of the nation, would feel with him that it would be a serious misfortune if after attempting to carry a Bill which was to become a legislative act to assert the supremacy of the Crown and the rights of the nation, they had altogether deserted that measure, and left the ag gression unmet.—(Hear.) Having stated his objections to the amendments of the Hon. Member for Abingdon, there was nothing in those amendments which would justify him in the serious responsibility of throwing up that Bill altogether.—(llear.) He did not believe there was anything in that Bill which militated against the principle of religious freedom. The Right Honourable Baronet the Member for Ripon had given him credit for what ho did not deserve; he said he thought that Bill would be safe in his hands even after it had passed, and that religious freedom would not be violated. Now be .had this question to consider with regard to the passing of that Bill. He did not think it would be enough to say that the members of the present Government, whether here or in Ireland, would not feel iuciined to put into operation any such measure as would violate religious freedom. He thought they should be bound not to move the passing of the Bill if they consi dered that any Government which might succeed them would be able to use the power of the Bill to the viola tion of religious liberty. Their responsibility, he thought, went as tar as that.—(Hear.) He did not believe the present Bill would be used for such a purpose. He did not mean to say but that an Attorney-General might use it as many other penal Acts of Parliament might be used —to an oppressive point. But they had always confided in that in which he had strong confidence from the first and time that he had bea rd of that Papal aggression, that was the fact, that this country had been so long in the enjoyment of civil and religious liberty that he did not believe it would be possible to interrupt that long usage, or to violate that sanctity of conscience, or prevent public worship, or the exercise of all the rights of religion, ac cording to the opinions of those who practised them. They did not live in a cou ntr y where a person sit be con t s igned to an unwholes ome g aol for reading a portion of the Holy Scriptures. Hon. Gentlemen who had charged them with being the enemies of religious liberty should remember that those were events of a country in which the influence of the Roman Catholic religion prevailed. But, after all, was there anything hostile to religious freedom in the provision that bishops should use their functions officiating in various parts of the country, but preventing them from officiating under certain terri torial titles conferred by a foreign power ? It occurred to him there was no infringement of religious liberty in that prohibition. The Roman Catholic was not the only Christian Church in Europe, although that feet would be heard as a novelty at Rome. This nation, too, by its division from the Church of Rome, became a great sepa rated body, maintaining its own national Church and existence as a Christian nation. There were other Protestant nations throughout Europe, and great Christian communities. Now, if the Church of Rome could but acknowledge that fact—if she were to say her bishops or were Dub n lin, betot those merely Rea of Wes mantminsCatholic ter, or Birmingham, bishops officiating in certain districts, he did not pretended to re c e 4 o i g ie n ci ise th n ei o r believe there would beanYdiVate whatsoever, even about a greater number than that proposed. The real aggres sion was, however, that they Now, as long as they Christians but themselves. kept up that pretence we should not allow to be erased from our statute-book certain provisions made on that sub ject. He knew, however, that if they were guided by the commonest sense and prudence, if they bishops by none of these titles, they would give offence to no one, neither would they interfere with the prero gative of the Crown. These were his reasons for sup posing that even with the amendments introduced there they wa s nothing like persecution in t he Bill. While reli ion , permitted every person to g wer practise his ow n they did not intend to permit an y foreign re p lie to interfere with the sovereing t y of this empire. trusted, in conclusion, that, after the Bill had passed, the Roman Catholics of this country would see they would have a perfect right to the full exercise of their own religion, but that they would have no right to override the powers of the Parliament of this coun try, or decide as they pleased with respect to its go vernment.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. GLADSTONE said he believed he stated the sentimstos of the Noble Lord as well us his own when he expressed his unfeigned regret at the position in which they were accidentally place , . So many diffe rences of opinion, even amongst legal gen, lemon, existed with respect to portions of that Bill, that it would be most desirable to have a full review of all the arguments used in the c ese before it should be sent up to the Lords. Bat that opportunity was then passed, and he agreed with the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon that it would be better to refrain from any attempt at regaining the position by again opening up the discus sion. He regretted much if, in consequence of any sug gestion which he might have made, he might have been indirectly the cause of whatever had occurred. While he was bound to express his convic'don that neither the Noble Lord nor the Government were chargeable with any blame, he should deeply regret to point out any measure by which it might have been avoided. But the Noble Lord had stated that on the whole he was responsible for that Bill, but that under the particular circumstances he was not responsible for the amend ments introduced by the Hon. Member for Abingdon. Assenting to that responsibility of principle, he differed from the Noble Lord as to the application of that prin ciple. What were the assurances which her Majesty gave at the last opening of Parliament? "I have to as sure them of my resolution to maintain the rights of my crown and the independence of the nation against all encroachments from whatsoever quarter they may pro ceed. I have at the same time to express my earnest desire and firm determination, under God's blessing, to maintain unimpaired the religious liberty which is so greatly prized by the people of this country." Ile did not think that the suggestion made by the Hon. Mem ber for Abingdon agreed with the expression el sentiment which the Noble Lord had counselled the Sovereign to make. No doubt there were many different constructions put on that amend ment. The Attorney-General said there was no persecution, although there might be vexa tion.—(Hear.) It was very difficult to draw a line of distinction so fine as that. He wanted to know whether one man writing a letter to another came within the meaning of putting in use and execution a Papal brief? Then, it appeared to him, the Noble Lord was responsi ble for sending up to the House of Lords, with the weight and authority of his recommendation, a measure which did not correspond with the sense of that great principle and importance of religious freedom which Ministers ad vised her Majesty to use in a sclemn manner in her Speech at the commencement of tee session. The Noble Lord said religious liberty was not likely to be. violated under the Bill—that there was no likelihood of such scenes occurring has had taken place in Tuscany, where a gentleman was unwisely and unwarrantably punished for reading the word of God for the edification of his own soul. It was very well for a Prime Minister to stand up in the House at this time of day, and to point to a coun try centuries behind ours in the expression of civil and religious freedom, and the establishment of these great principles, and say, " Don't be afraid; we are not going back to that abyss from which it has taken us centuries to emerge." He protested from taking the first step backwards towards that abyss. Did the Bill touch reli gious liberty or not? That was the real question. He was deeply struck by an ohservation which fell from the Noble Lord, that the real aggression was this—that the Roman Catholic Church pretended to recognise no Christians but themselves, and to assert that all baptised persons were of right all subject to the Roman Catholic priesthood. That, said the Noble Lord, was the real aggression, and so long as the aggression continued, it would be impossible to erase certain enactments from the statute-book. A declaration more important, or of more fatal meaning, he never before heard fall from a Minister of the Crown. Because what was this aggres sion? Was it a new assumption? Certainly not. It was an essential principle of the religion they professed to tolerate. The Noble Lord founded his justification for the measure not on any new act of the Pope, and be deprecated and lamented the manner in which that act had been done as much as the Noble Lord; but the Noble Lord founded his justification of his measure on the claim to the exclusive principles of the Roman Catholic faith respecting Christians, which, however we may dislike it, has all along been the open, the avowed, and the notorious principle of the Roman Catholic Church—a strictly religious principle, capable of being confined by wise laws to spiritual dominion. They founded their legislative enactments on Papal and Car dinalistic language. They legislated against acts, which whether right or wrong, were apart from the language— acts done in a spiritual sphere, which it would nave been wisdom, as it was our duty, in no manner to interfere with. They had not succeeded in proving the temporal character of the acts. The Noble Lord said nothing was easier than for the Roman Catholic Church to ap point priests with inoffensive titles. It was not possible for all religious persuasions to regulate their tenets so as to make them perfectly palatable to all who did not belong to the same creed. He was pleading for no rights for the Papist—he was not pleading for respect to the Pope from the Legislature—he was not pleading for any prohibition Government might issue against Papal bulls,—but what he was pleading for was equal religi ,us freedom to all classes of her Majesty's subjects. He looked only to the mixed religious beliefs of the coun try, and he cherished an ardent desire that the House would persevere in such a course of legislation which should avoid the calamityof religious divisions, and which should bind us together in civil and social concord. But what said the Noble Lord? something very different to that. Could they show him that the appointment of Roman Catholic bishops was a temporal proceeding? They could not. They might find ingenious arguments to prove such was the case, but he could prove the con trary by the Bill. He could show them that in the case of Scotch bishops, were territorial titles existed, they were saved by this Bill.—(No.) The Right Hon. Gen tleman opposite says these titles do not exist; he meant deubtless they did not exist according to law. Then only just leave as much existence to the titles of the Roman Catholic bishops, and not only the bishops would be content, but the Pope himself would be con tent.—(Cheers.) It was not for the purpose of making a point in argument that he said this, but for the truth and justice of the case. He said did they assert that territorial titles were the object of the penal enact ment, when they caved them in the case of the Scotch bishops. He deeply regretted to see the Bill passing through that House • he knew how vain it was to reite trate intreaty when there was no opportunity of re-exam ining the measure, of examining the whole historical and legal bearing of the measure. Having now stated his sense of the responsibility under which the Noble Lord had placed himself—which could not be extenuated by any argument raised by the conduct of private Members of that House—he must be content, under the circum stances in which he stood, once more solemnly to renew his protest to the Bill, as a Bill hostile to the institu tions of the country and the established religion, because it taught that religion to rely upon other than its spiri tual strength and inviolability, which alone could give it vigour—because it tended to undermine and weaken the law in Ireland—because it departed from those prin ciples of religions freedom on which the wise and under standing people of this country permanently built their legislation of late years—and because it tended to relax those bonds of concord and good-will which ought to bind together all classes and persuasions of her Ma3esty's subjects.--(Cheera) Lord J. RUSSELL wished to explain that the Right Hon. Gentleman, in 'quoting from his speech, had only quoted a portion of his remarks. He had said that the bee of Rome did not avow the existence of any Chris tians but those of her own Church, and went on to say the consequence of that assumption was that the Church of Rome pretended to give territorial titles, and to go vern the whale people comprised within that territory, which pretension to give such titles did interfere with the prerogative of the Crown, and liberty of the people. The Marquis of GRANBY had hitherto avoided either in or out of the House, expressing an opinion on, the question; he was therefore anxious to express his sentiments before the debate closed, and to assign his reason for having given his support to the measure of her Majesty's Government, although he had been obliged to dissent from some of their propositions. In conse quence of the observations made by the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Oxford, he hoped he might be allowed to refer to them. His Hon. Friend said truly, that the question to be decided was, whether they were by this Bill interfering with - the civil and religious liber ties necessary for the due exercise of the Roman Ca tholic religion. On that view of the question was the country to support or condemn the Bill. He totally dissented from the speech of his Right Honourable Friend. He had throughout the whole debate heard no argument to prove that the introduction of the bull was necessary for the proper exercise of the Roman Catholic religion. He bad asked several Irish Members to get up and show him where any re ligious functions were interfered with by penal enact ments in the Bill. Had this been the case he should have been one of the most strenuous opponents of the measure. But what was the language of the Papal brief ? Did it say that the Roman Catholics were labouring un der penalties or unjust laws? No such thing. It went on to say, " Under the system of vicars apostolic the Roman Catholic religion had greatly increased in Eng land." This showed that no impediment was inflicted on the spread or the exercise of the Roman Catholic creed. But in the pastoral of Archbishop Wiseman he found an expression to the effect that the links of the Roman Ca tholic religion were not made stronger or more united by this hierarchy—for that was not needed—but only bur nished and more beautifully wrought. Now what was meant by those expressions? He had asked Irish Members to explain, but he had received no answer. The Bill was not intended to infringe on the civil or religious rights and liberties of the Roman Catholics, but to preserve intact the civil and religious rights and liberties of the people of this country. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for the University of Oxford had said they were descending into an abyss—that they were taking a step backward. If so he (the Marquis of Granby) had the consolation of knowing that the amendments of his Hon and Learned Friend the Member for Abingdon had not made the Bill more penal than it was before on the authority of the Noble Lord at the head of the Go vernment; while on the authority of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for the University of Oxford he had the satisfaction of knowing that the Bill had been by their means made more efficient. He would, therefore, only add, that he rejoiced the amendments of his Hon. and Learned Friend had been adopted; and that the Bill was now of that nature which, while it interfered with 'no rights, civil or religious, of the Ro man Catholics, was 'calculated to. meet the just wishes of the Protestant people of England. Lord Li. VANE agreed with the Right Hon. Member for Oxford, that in the hands of the Noble Lord the Bill would not be misapplied; but he believed, nevertheless, such was the liberal feeling of the country, that it would be inoperative, and that no Ministry would attempt to put it in operation. Mr. FARRER expressed his hope that the Bill would be inoperative, and that it never would be put in opera tion. lie hoped the good sense of the Roman Catholics would, however, render it unnecessary to make it a prac tical measure. Mr. S. HERBERT had heard so many and such va rious statements from authorities upon both sides of the House, that fillppre to him quite impossible to say what the B was, or what would be its effect. In reference to the policy which had proposed the Bill, he would read the speech of a Noble Lord made early in mittee. The Ecclesiastical Property Valuation (Ireland) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Summary Jurisdiction (Ireland) Bill was read a second time, and was ordered to be committed on Mon day next. The Land Clauses Consolidation (Ireland) Bill went through Committee pro forma, and was ordered to be re•committed on Thursday next, at twelve o'clock. Tee other business on the paper was disposed of, and the House adjourned at Half-past Eleven o'clock. Mr. W. 0. Gore, jun., paired in favour of the Eccle siastical Titles Bill with the O'Gorman Mahon against. Colonel Chattertou paired off with Sir De Lacy Evans on Friday night. Mr. Pigott was accidentally shut out of the division on the third reading of the Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Bill, which he intended to support. THE SCOTTISH SOCIETY'S FETE. We are happy to observe by advertisements, that the members of this society have determined to gratify the pleasure-seeking public with a repetition of their Jae on Wednesday and Thursday next, the 10th and 11th, in Lord Holland's magnificent park. It will be remembered that on the two occasions of their last celebration her Majesty and his Royal Highness Prince Albert, with their family and suite, and the most distinguished of the nobility honoured the games and sports with their presence, and moreover that her Majesty was then pleased to cignity her appreciation in the encouragement of such innocent and healthy recrea tion, by adding fifty guineas out of the royal purse to the society's prizes. Such patronage ought to be received with gratitude, not only by the members of the Scottish Society, but by the public generally, for whose enjoy ment such fetes are got up, and we hope that the exer tions making for an agreeable and novel day's amuse ment will be encouraged by the multitude, in whose so ciety and happiness our beloved Queen takes so lively an interest, as frequently exhibited in her visits to the Crystal Palace. The programme announces the various athletic games, sports, and pastimes of the three kingdoms, and the management have judiciously reduced the admis sion fees considerably from their former prices. We will conclude this our preliminary notice of the grand national fete, by a reference to the encouragement given to all sports, by a proclamation of Charles 1., in which he states that it is his will that his good subjects be not dis turbed or discouraged from any lawful recreations, such as dancing, for men or women ; archery, leaping, vaulting, running, or any such harmless amusements for men—nor for having May games, Whitsun-ales, and Morris-dances, or the setting up of May-poles. This regal order was issued in consequence of the ridiculous and meaningless declamations of the zealots and puritans of that age. The great demoralization of this age has not unfrequently been attributed to Sabbath -breaking, in which offence the bigots would include the after-church water parties of the poor cooped-up Londoners, who, on this only day of relaxation, crowd to Richmond-park, to walk in the meadows and admire the beautiful scenery. Surely this is a lamentable mistake ;at any rate the encouragement of such fetes as the Scottish Society's will do much to meet the growing demand for out-of-door amusements. Lord Holland deserves the thanks of all such as appreciate those enjoyments, for the handsome manner in which he throws open his hitherto exclusive splendid park. METROPOLITAN COMMISSIONERS OF SEWERS. A monthly court of the Metropolitan Commissioners of Sewers was held yesterday at the office, Greek-street, Soho-square. The commissioners present were, Viscount Ebrington, M.P. (in the chair), Sir John Burgoyne, Mr. S. M. Peto, M.P., Mr. W. Hawes, Captain Dawson, Mr. P. Hardwick, and Mr. E. Lewes. Payments for works in progress were ordered to be made to the amount of 2 575/. On the motion of Mr. E. Lswes, it was agreed "That 5,300 feet of brick sewer, 4 feet by 2 feet 8 inches, be constructed in Loughborough-park, Brixton, at an esti mated cost to the Surrey and Kent district of 2,3001. Also, " That upon the sum of 1001, being paid into court by the parties interested, 1,600 feet of brick sewer, 4 feet by 2 feet 6 inches, be constructed in King Henry street and Coach and Horses-lane, Newington, at an estimated cost of 1,2801.; and that the remainder of such expense be defrayed out of the district rates of the Fins bury division." Lord EBRINGTON said a question on this subject was asked him the other night in the House of Commons, and he might state that under the old law of sewers per sons wao not only called upon to contribute to the dis trict sewers rates, but to pay certain amounts varying from shillings to pounds for the frontage charges in en tering those sowers. Such charges under the New Sewers Act were p r ohibited, but still it was considered that the benefit received in a district by a new sewer was more than equivalent to the charge for frontage in an assessment to a special sewers rate. [ADVERTISEMENT.] --- Holloway's Ointment and Pills are a universal Remedy for old Wounds and obstinate Sores. —Mr. John Mackie, proprietor of the Northern Ensign, Wick, informs Professor Holloway, by letter dated, April 3, 18 i 51, that he is aware o f numerous instances in which Hollo way's Ointment and Pills have been of the greatest service to sufferers in that part of the country, more especially as regards wounds of long standing, aad that he could, if permitted, give the names of many respectable parties who have been entirely cured by their use. No family should be without a supply of these excellent medicines, which are so justly celebrated throughout the civilised w)rld.—Sold by all Druggists, and at Professor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand, London. APOTHECARIE;-UALL.—The following are the names of the gentlemen who passed their examination in the science and practice of medicine, and received certificates to practise. on Thursday, July 3 : —John Roulston, Helperby bridge, Yorkshire ; Edward William Stephen Davis, Merthyr Tydvil ; Edward Abraham Hancock Head, Stoke, near Ply mouth ; John Tom Gabriel, Royal Navy ; Augustus Florence, Isle of Portland, Dorset; Robert Gordon, Tatham, Newby place, Poplar; Thomas Seal Blackwell, Staplehurst, Kent; Robert Lucas, Burwell, Cambridgeshire. SURVEY OF THE Nonni AMERICAN COAST.—The Admiralty have ordered Commander Shortland, in her Ma jesty's steam vessel Columbia? to proceed from Halifax to survey Sable Island, in the vicinity of which, it will be re membered, the Irish steamer . Viceroy was S lost on her trial trip from Galway to New YorkUnitedService G I,ON DON. SATURDAY the progress of the measure—when it was at its first reeding, ho believed—in Merchant Te.iiore' Hail. In to doing he s'reetild not detain tho House any time. Tn. -, No'd's Lord ac id at the honquct there given him—" I would have proceeded on too . first occasion either by re solution or address, or by a declaratory Act directed against that particular aggression on the pot of the Pope, which was felt at once to be an aggression and an insult to the country. But I added further that the course of policy which was indicated in the Papal re script might require that the subject should be deeper looked into-amight require that the relations of Roman Catholic subjects of this country_to this country and to the Papal See should be carefully and diligently inves tigated, and that on so large a branch of the subject, involving so many delicate and difficult questions, it was not desirable to proceed hastily and rashly, to hold out threats which we were not able to execute, and to show resentment which we were not able to carry into effect. On that large question 1. desired that there should be no hasty legislation that there should be an immediate reply by Parliament to the insult which had been offered to as, but that subsequently a full in quiry should be made upon the subject, which would place our Roman Catholic fellow-subjects in a position that would not only secure and extend their civil rights, but would secure to this country, be it Protestant or be it Roman Catholic, the independence of its temporal concerns from the control of any ecclesiastical hier archy, or from subj ction to any foreign Pontiff. Some have supposed that I proposed the ques ion should he waived for two years. What I said was, that such an inquiry, even if it were to occupy the whole of one ses sion or of two sessions, would be less dangerous end hasty, and passionate and rash, and a more E ffective mole of legislation. I know not the course her Ma jesty's Government now intends to pursue. But I know that on introducing this measure, Lord John Russell laid a basis broad enough to repeal, not only the Act of 1829, but to renew the penal code; and that upon this mighty foundation a superstructure was reared of microscopic dimensions—a superstructure which has ex cited contempt not unmingled with irritation; and mi croscopic as the measure was at first, it is now to be more microscopic still." The opinions contained in that extract he (Mr. S. Herbert) held to be statesmanlike; they were those of a man who, having been himself a Minister, knew the difficulty of governing a country. He (Ur. S. Herbert) was glad to have that opportunity of assenting to these opinions, because of their intrinsic worth, and because also the station and position of the Noble Lord made every word that fell from his lips of the utmost importance. A Noble Lord had said that the Bill wss a persecution or a nullity, and the So• licitor-General had described it as a vexation and not as a persecution. It could not be more correctly described. He (Mr. S. Herbert) did not think it a statesmanlike course to give their tellow-countryman the fullest poli tical powers with no restriction to its use and employ ment, and then to pass a measure which, without in the slightest degree diminishing that power, was calculated to annoy and vex them. Ho regretted to see this done all the more, because the time of the House in so doing had been occupied to the exclusion of other far more important matters. He should have preferred, for instance, to see measures introduced calculated rather to prevent the spread of their religious opinions than to coerce the Roman Catholics. What, however, had happened? The measures for the amendment of abuses in the Church promised to the Hon. Member for Cockermouth had got no further than the House of Lords, and were not likely to get further this session; the church-rate question remained as it was . ; while the motion of his Noble Friend the Member for Woodstock, for preaching the Gospel, had only received the assent of the Government on condition that it contained no specific proposal to that etlect. All these questions were, obstructed by the Bill before the House, which was vexatious in its nature, powerless to prevent evil, and incapable of effecting any real good, at the same time that it deprived the Church of England of the strongest ground on which it stood—namely, the truth, which needed no assistance from penal legislation in its favour. The amendment was then negatived without a divi sion; the title of the Bill was adopted, and the Bill was passed. ASSESSED TAXES COMPOSITION. The House then went into Committee on the As sessed Taxes Composition Bill, which was afterwards reported. PUBLIC WORKS, FISHERIES, &c. The Public Works, Fisheries, &c., Bill was passed through Committee. PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND). The Public Works (Ireland) Bill went through Com mittee. The Chief Justices' Salaries Bill passed through Com- EVENING, COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL, THE SMITHFIELD-MARKET REMOVAL BILL. Yesterday a special Court was held for the perpose et petitioning the House of Lords to be heard by counsel against the Smithfield-market Removal Bill. The members assembled in the Egyptian-hail of the mansion-house, in consequence of the preparations which are being made isa the Guildhall for the reception of her Majesty on the 9th fast, and the Lord Mayor took the chair at twelve o'clock. Mr. 11. L. TAYLOR, the chairman of the Markets Im provement Committee, said he felt pleasure in stating to the Court that some farther step had been taken with respect to the Government Bill since they had last as sembled. The Court would perceive that the Standing Orders'Committee of the House of Lords had presented a report, stating their opinion that the Bill ought not to be proceeded with, inasmuch as certain notices which ought to have been given had not been given, and thus the standing orders had not been complied with. That decision of the House of Lords' Committee was, he con sidered, extremely important to the Corporation, for the members of it appeared to him to be conscientious men.—(Hear, hear.) He most sincerely hoped that the result of their opinion would be to render the present meeting of the Corporation unnecessary; but it was necessary to be armed at all points to meet the attacks of an enemy who, upon their part, were ready and determined to take every advantage which might present itself.—(Hear, hear.) He trusted that th o petition to the House of Lords would not be re quired. It was with feelings of great pleasure and re sp he had read in the Times the sentiments of Lord Redesdale—a nobleman who very justly carried great weight in the House of Peers, and whose authority in matters connected with Parliamentary usage gave him an unquestionable station. The Noble Lord was chair man of the Standing Orders' Committee, and in the Times report appeared the following words were attributed to him: —" The standing orders had been passed for the protection of private rights and private property, on both of which this Bill made a direct attack. A great princi ple was-involved in their Lordships' decision that even ing. If their decision was against complying with the standing orders, a door to injustice might be opened which they might never he able to close. The evidence laid before the Standing Orders' Committee was such that they could not resist the force of it." It was with much gratification he had read that report of the obser vations of a nobleman who had been selected as the or gan of a committee whose duties were of so important a nature, and he placed great reliance upon the decision to which their Lordships would come that evening upon the authority of that opinion.—(Hear.) If the Lords should decide against the recommendation of the Com mittee, it would then be necessary to be heard by coun sel, as the promoters of the Bill have determined to thrust it forward as a public measure, and the exertions of their Lordships would bo necessary for the protection of the important rights and interests at stake.—(Hear.) Here the petition to be heard by counsel against the Bill was briefly read. It ended with the words, " and that the said Bill do not pass into a law." The REQORDER having put the question, that the pe tition be adopted. Mr. BENNOCH rose to say a few words. He was, he said, one of those who considered that the corporation were damaging themselves and their fellow-citizens by pursuing the present course instead of at once accepting the proposition which would give to them the total ma nagement of that which was intended as a substitute for the nuisance still existing in the heart of the city of London. He considered it to be injudicious to continue the agitation upon the question, but he could not allow Mr. H. L. Taylor to compliment some of the Members of the House of Lords upon the possession of con sciences without reminding him that in that praise he accused others of them of having no con sciences at all. —(A laugh, and cries of " Hear, hear.") He did not think it fair to impute to those Peers who thought Smithfield-market a nuisance which ought to be abated a want of honesty as a motive to their opposition, nor did he think it necessary that their Lordships should not have the power, if they encountered a standing order calculated to iuterfsre with the ends of justice, to dispense with its obligation. Standing orders were made to prevent the smuggl i ng of Bills through the House.—(Laughter, and cries of " Hear, hear.") However strong might have been the argument for retaining Smithfield market when it was surrounded with walls, modern improvement required that it should no longer be allowed to exist. lie be lieved that the universal voice of societywas against it. —(" No, no.") He believed that the welfare of the trade most interested in the question of its removal was against it.—(Loud disapprobation.) And he believed that the best course the Court could adopt would be magnanimously to undertake the management of the great Government project, which was still open to their acceptance.—(Loud disapprobation, mixed with cries of " Hear, hear.") (In consequence of the great confusion in the hall Mr. Bennoch was not very well heard.) Mr. R. L. JONES said the real question before the House of Lords was, whether the Bill was a public or a private Bill. The Standing Orders' Committee of the House of Lords said it was a private Bill, and Lord Redesdale was, no doubt, perfectly right in the manner in which his Lordship had represented it to their Lordships, and in his suggestion as to the result of the non-compliance with the necessary regulations. The House of Com mons' Committee had decided in the same manner, and the consequence was that the proceedings upon the Bill had been necessarily postponed for two months in order to supply the defect.—(Elear, heir.) Lord Redesdale had pointed out the fact that the Bill was a private Bill, and that the standing orders with regard to private Bills had not been complied with. If the House of Lords should be satisfied with that decision there would be an end to the Government Bill, and he trusted that the mat ter would terminate in that way.—(Hear.) Mr. T. H. HALL said he thought it was necessary to say a few words lest Mr. Bennoch's observations going out to the world might induce people to imagine that there was something like an equal division of sentiment on the subject of the removal of Smithfield-market in the Court, although there were actually no more than seven or eight individuals opposed to the great mass of the representatives of the citizens of London on that most important question.—(Hear.) Now, the greatest number of supporters the Government measure could muster in the Court amounted to the seven or eight steady resolute advocates who had taken care to speak so much and so vehemently that if it were not for the divisions, which showed their miserable numerical con dition, it would bo really supposed that they formed one half of the whole body.—(Laughter, and hear.) In the matter of Smithfield the fact was that they bud been for year after year endeavouring to improve it, but they had always been prevented from doing so.—(Hear.) We have always desired to make it the most perfect market in the world upon all occasions, but we have been op posed in our attempts to do so.—(Hear.) And who, he would ask, could tell where the market was to be re moved to, and at what hours it was to be held? Had the Government informed them of these facts? The Bill did not state where the new market was to be, nor could they gain any other important information respecting it. Who could tell what was to be the style of management? Experience had shown them that the central part of a town or a city for such a purpose was far better than the outside. They did not oppose the removal of the market on any pecuniary grounds; but they thought that the ci tizens of London would be benefited by its retention. — (Cheers.) The Corporation would not receive any ad ditional amount of cash if it was retained; but this they felt, that though they might not receive any extra amount of income, they should still defend the rights of their fellow-citizens by doing all they could to preserve the market.—(Cheers.) Why did not the Government come forward in a fair stand-up fight between them, as they, on the part of the Corporation, were ready to do?—(Cheers.) The Corporation might give up the mar ket so far as their reception of its income was beneficial to them, the amount they received annually being ex tremely small, but still their object in doing all they could to retain it was to preserve the rights and immuni ties of their fellow-citizens.—(Cheers.) If the Govern ment attempted to try the establishment of a new mar ket, they might depend upon it that the result would prove to be a signal failure, and at the same time a great injury to the city of London.—(Hear.) Mr. ANDERTON said that it was not necessary for him to state his opinions with regard to Smithfield-market. They were well known. He was glad, however, to say, that in his idea the House of Lords was a court of justice as well as a court of appeal.—(Hear, hear.) In all cases, the House of Lords was the last resort for the public to apply to. In this case the charters of the City were at stake, but the Government proposed to abrogate these charters, and to take away the rights and immu nities of the citizens.—(Hear, hear.) This was a quesL tion affecting the vital interests of Englishmen, as well as those of all parties who were connected with their co lonial dependencies.—(Hear, hear.) He thought it right, therefore, that the members of that Court should petition, because ho believed that if they did so, they would receive justice at the hands of that branch of the Legislature of the country. Alderman Weesote remarked that no doubt the oppo sition on the part of the Corporation to the Government measure then before the Court had been well worked out.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. Hall appeared to be afraid that Mr. Bennoch's speech would have an unfavourable effect out of doors, and that it might be supposed there was an exact division of opinion in the Court of Common Council upon the subject. Now, there was no ground for such an apprehension, for although Mr. Bennoch was right, and had the argument all upon his side, it was very well known that he was in a diminutive mi nority. It was known, too, that with the exception of the Court of Common Council, the great majority of the traders of the city of London were against the retention of Smithfield-market.—(Loud cries of " No, no.") He repeated that all engaged in trade, with that exception, were so. It was, in fact, an intolerable nuisance to all but the butchers and the publicans, and the Smithfield backers themselves.—(No, no, and laughter.) Mr. Hall seemed to believe that more cattle would be driven through the City after the removal of the market than had ever appeared there before. Such would not be the case. In all probability four markets would be substi tuted for that in which all the cattle were at present con gregated, and the cattle would then receive no injury in being unnecessarily driven from place to place.—(llis appr, obation and cries of " No, no.") H e rose, there fore, under these impressions to support Mr. Bennoch's view of the subject.—(Cheers.) Mr. H. L. TAYLOR, in reply, said that he thought Mr. Bennoch bad not upon that occasion acted under the control of his leader, Mr. Norris, who, it was rather surprising, was absent, but who had said that he did not intend to pursue any further active opposition. Alder man Wilson had said that the opposition to the Govern ment measure had been " well worked." That was quite hear) —and he (Mr. Taylor) hoped that it tr , ue would— (sliatilelbre worked to a successful issue, for— " Thrice was he armed who had his quarrel just." The debate then closed, and upon a division being called for, the numbers proved to be—for the motion 723, against it eight, namely, Alderman Wilson , and gear& Friday is now, perhaps, the most attractive day of the week at the Crystal Palace. The half-crown admission fee insures a certain degree of selectness on the one hand, while it prevents the interior wearing a too de serted or exclusive look upon the other, Upwards of 26,000 people entered the building yesterday, and the receipts were 2,6131. 3s. 6d. The finances of the Com mission are now in a most flourishing condition, for 126,2341. has been taken at the doors and by the sale of season tickets, which added to the 77,700/. from subscrip tions and contracts makes a total of 273,9341. With this vast run of fortune in its favour the Exhibition is freed from all pecuniary liabilities, and is hopefully entering upon the period when its surplus funds may be made available for those public purposes to which " Denarius" and Mr. Paxton have already invited attention. The scheme of a winter garden seems to meet with general approval and acceptance, and petitions cn the subject to both Houses of Parliament have been set on foot, with every prospect of general support. COURT CIRCULAR. The Queen walked yesterday in the gardens of Buck ingham Palace. The Countess de Neuilly, the Duke de Nemours, and the Princess Augusta of Saxe Coburg, visited her Ma jesty yesterday at Buckingham Palace. His Royal Highness Prince Albert, attended by the Marquis of Abercorn, Colonel the Hon. Charles Grey, and Lieutenant-Colonel Francis Hugh Seymour, re turned to Buckingham Palace at twenty minutes past six o'clock yesterday afternoon, from attending the meet ing at Ipswich of the British Association for the Ad vancement of Science. His Royal Highness Prince Alfred, attended by Mr. Birch, took a drive yesterday morning in an open carriage. Their Royal Highnesses Prince Arthur and the Prin cesses Helena and Louisa, took an airing in an open car riage and four yesterday forenoon. The Countess de Neuilly, the Princess Augusta of Saxe Coburg, and the Duke de Nemours, visited her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent yesterday at Clarence House, St. James's. A Cabinet Council was held yesterday afternoon at the Foreign-office. The Ministers present were Lord John Russell, the Lord Chancellor, the Marquis of Lansdowne, the Earl of Minto, Sir George Grey, Vis count Palmerston, Earl Grey, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sir Francis Baring, Lord Broughton, the Right Hon. Henry Labouchere, the Earl of Carlisle, and the Marquis of Clanricarde. The Council sat one hour and a half. A deputation, consisting of Mr. Aglionby, M.P., Mr. Bruce and Mr. Ellis (directors of the East Indian Iron Company), and Mr. C. Freshfield, solicitor to the com pany, had an interview yesterday with the Right Hoe. Henry Laboucbere, at the Beard of Trade. Lord Belhaven had an interview with Sir George Grey yesterday at the Home-office. A deputation on the subject of the Irish Lands Clauses Bill had an interview with the Railway Commissioners yesterday, at their office in the Board of Trade. The deputation consisted of Mr. Tyrrell, Mr. Jeffers, Mr. Hemming, and Mr. Laylor. Mr. John Wood, Chairman of the Board of Inland Revenue, had an interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday, at his official residence, in Down ing- street. The Westminster-bridge Commission had a naFeting yesterday, at the office of her Majes t y' s Commissioners of Woods and Forests, in Whitehall-place. Present, Lord Seymour, the Earl of Lonsdale, Lord Sudely, Lord Robert Grosvenor, Sir R. Inglis, Alderman Humphery, and the Right Hon. C. Tennyson D'Eyncourt. The Lord Mayor had an interview with Sir George Grey yesterday. Dispatches were sent off yesterday from the Colonial offi3e to the Governor of the Canadaa and the Gover nors of the other North American colonies. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. The Earl of Dundonalkl, G.C.8., ex-Commander-in Chief of the West Indies, having nominated his son for promotion on striking his flag, the Admiralty, in con sideration of the services of the Noble and distinguished Earl, have ordered the commission of Commander the Hon. A. A. Cochrane, now acting-commander of the Sappho, 12, West Indies, to be dated back from the 12th of April last, the anniversary of the action in Basque-roads. Vice-Admiral the Hon. G. Elliot, C. 8., in striking his flag as Commander-in-Chief at Sheerness, having no minated his flag-lieutenant, Fitzjames Stewart M•Gregor (1833), :the Admiralty have accordingly promoted him to the rank of commander. Lieutenant Augustus C. May (1838), late first lieut , ?- nant of the Wellesley, 72, has been promoted to the rank of commander. By his continuous services as mate and lieutenant he has richly ea rned his promotion. Avon steam-tender, Second Master Veitch,lett Devon p ort on Tuesday morning, with supernumeraries for the Trafalgar, 120, at Sheerness. PORTSMOUTH, JULY 4.—The Charlotte and Berkshire freight ships arrived at Spithead yesterday morning, from the river, to embark the 12th Lancers for the Cape of Good Hope. This morning the Major-General com manding the military district went off to them and in spected their accommodations for the soldiers, who will embark from the dockyard to-morrow on board the ships which are in harbour. The Tiger, new steam- frigate, hauled over to sailing moorings yesterday, and to-day hoisted the pendant and ensign, to be commanded by Captain Henderson, C. 8., of the Blenheim, for a trial cruise. The Sprightly steam-tender, Mr. George Allen, RN., master commanding, sailed this evening with supernu meraries for the eastward. The Sidon and Retribution steam-frigates were to em bark the 60th Rifles this day at Queenstown, and sail to morrow with them for the Cape. PLYMOUTH, JULY 4.—Her Majesty's steam-sloop Hecate, Commander Hand, which left Portsmouth on Wednesday, at 3 P. nt., arrived in the Sound on Thurs day, at 7 A,M., and was shortly afterwards joined by a boat from the Belleisle. As soon as the midshipman got on deck the llecate went a-head, and the boat, hav ing been caught under her ladder, was quickly upset, and the crew thrown overboard; they were, however, all saved by the boat belonging to Mr. Thompson, Queen's harbour-master. The Hecate takes spars and stores for the fleet, and will probably sail for Lisbon to-day. The steam-vessel Avoa sailed yesterday morning with seamen for the Trafalgar, fitting at Sheerness. The frigate Eagle was placed in dock on Wednesday, ,e have defects made good. APPOINTMENTS. WOOLWICH, JULY 4.—Second Masters—Mark Netten (1850), to the Impregnable flag-ship, at Devonport; and Thomas S. Hayward (1850), to the Trafalgar, 120, a Sheerness. ; g ar. 1 Masters-Assistants—C. F. Puckett, to the T raf vv a Gunners—John Quin, to the Tiger, 16, paddle; Lem steam-sloop of 400-horse power, making re6d ilie ° Argus, mission at Portsmouth; Robert Thompson , " rf of 500-hors t° liennycuik, 6, steam-sloop at Portsmouth; and H to the Bulldog, 6, paddle-wheel steam- .1 the a s i t ° l - t z mouth . power, making ready for commissiono Tiger• John Boatswains—Robert Knight, „ t tfan, to th e , ar Budd to the Argus; Edward H o the ,„ uildog; and John Millar (acting) , t aterwitch, at Chat Carpenters—John Ed wards, to the Argus; John Cer mody (acting), to the Bulldog; and Ja mes M'Cullam, to the Waterwtcb. . 120, C a ptain the Hon. M. Stopford, at Trafalgar, h a s receiyed about 100 blue jackets from the Sheerness, London, 9 0 , flag-ship, and Monarch, 84, guard-ship in ordinary at Sheerness, and is under orders to proceed roun d to P o rtsmouth, to be comp l e t e d a t that port for service on the Mediterranean station. The Furious, 16, paddle-wheel steam-sloop, is ordered from Woolwich to Portsmouth, where she will remain a s an advanced war -steamer, or for commission. Lieutenant Commander Joliffe arrived at Woolwich yesterday, and hoisted his pennant on board the Myr midon steam-vessel, and it is understood she is for ser- JULY 54 ISM, Benno* Brooke, Elliott, Hoo!e, Laurie, Read, and Rose. vice on the coast of Africa. The gallant commander of The conversation then terminated. the Myrmidon recently brought home the Pluto after a THE METROPOLITAN WATER BILL. period of service on the coast of Africa. Mr. WATERLOW (the Chairman of the City Lands Mr. Atherton, Chief Engineer at Devonport Dock- Committee) brought up the following report:— yard, is to succeed Mr. Humphr3rs as Chief Engineer "TO THE RIGHT HON. THE LORD MAYOR, ALDERMEN, at Woolwich Dockyard, and it is not intended at pre- AND COMMONS OF THE CITY OF LONDON IN COMMON sent to appoint a Chief Engineer to Devonport Dock- COUNCIL ASSEMBLED. yard. " We, whose names are hereunto subscribed, your committee for letting the City's lands in the account of the Chamberlain, to whom by an order of this Hon. Court of the 16th day of October, 1849, it was referred to inquire into the present supply of this essential ele ment, with power to confer with Government and to re port to this Court; also to whom, by an order of this Hon. Court of the 2d of May last, it was referred to watch the progress of the Bill in Parliament brought in by Government ' For the Better Supply of Water to the Metropolis;' do certify that we proceeded in the former reference by hearing evidence at considerable length thereon, and having also heard Mr. Remem brancer thereon, your committee were of opinion that it was expedient to postpone further proceedings rela tive to the said inquiry until the intentions of Govern ment concerning the supply of water in the metropolis had been announced. " That the said Bill for the better supply of water to the metropolis having subsequently been brought in by her Majesty's Government, and, with the other Bills be fore Parliament, referred to a Select Committee of the House of Commons, your committee have further con sidered the subject, and are of opinion that an abundant and choice supply of pure water to the inhabitants of the metropolis will not be obtained by dissolving the present water companies and vestin g the whole proper ties and powers of these companies in the hands of the intended metropolitan water company, as proposed by the said Bill introduced by Government. "That your Committee are of opinion that the inter ference of her Majesty's Government with the supply of water to the metropolis in the manner proposed is un necessary and impolitic, and that the management of the water supply should be exercised by a respo ns ibl e body elected by the ratepayers, who alone are to pro vide the requisite funds. " That your committee, for the reasons before stated, recommend this Hon. Court to present a petition to the Hon. the House of Commons against the Metropolis NVater Bill, and Mr. Remembrancer having, by order of your committee, prepared the draught of a petition ac cordingly, they submit the same to this Hon. Court. " JAMES WATERLOW, " JNO. HILL, JAMES R. THOMSON, Jos. BLADES, W. STEVENS, HENRY BLAKE, THOS. YOUNG, JAMES ANDERTON. G. BRACHER, F. FARRAR, BENJAMIN BOWER, JOHN WILSON, JAS. W. BARNARD, JNO. WOOD." The report was received and agreed to unanimously, as was the petition, which was an echo of it. The Court then adjourned. BOILER EXPLOSION. An additional disaster to the already dire enough catalogue of railway catastrophes occurred this morning at the Edgehill station of the London and North- Western Railway, immediately above the station at the mouth of the tunnel. The particulars of the accident, as we have been enabled to gather them by a visit, are as follow : About ten minutes past seven o'clock an engine was attached to a luggage train of goods which had come from the Wapping station to proceed to Manchesielr when, the station scarcely passed, and owing to seine cause which we have not as yet been able to discover, the boiler exploded, with a terrific crash, blowing the fire man (Griffith) and the engineer into the air, and spreading confusion and dismay along the line. For some minutes nothing could be discerned, on account of the volumes of steam which spread in all directions, but when these had cleared away, the fireman was disco vered up to his artrvits in the roof of a two-story building used by Mr. Wood, the engineer, as an office, and which is built along the line. The height to which he was blown, and the force with which he descended, may be thus conceived. The line wets strewed with fragments of the broken machinery, and the fire-box was discovered in a field, at the distance of 60 yards from the scene of the accident, one-half being buried in the ground. Valentine and Griffith were taken away as soon as possible to the In firmary, where the latter died about ten o'clock, the base of the brain having been fractured, and the whole body very much bruised. Valentine, the engineer, is severely burnt about the head and chest, but is not, we learn, in immediate danger. Griffith has left a wife and two children; the engineer also is a married man, and has five chilren. The pointsmaa was standing on the line, not far from the engine, at the time of the explo• sion, and he is somewhat injured also, but not seriously. Rix cabin was entirely blown away. The windows of Mr- Wood's office were shivered; but the station was not touched by any of the fragments. Fortunate it was that the north mail train had passed the goods train, and stopped at the station only a few seconds before the crash occurred; for, had it passed simultaneouslyhave been the result. with the explosion, a fearful sacrifice of iife w ould doubtless _ _ . Several of the goods' waggons were smashed, but no personal injury or accident beyond what we have already detailed, as far as we can learn, happened, compara tively few men being upon the line at the time, and those employed on the waggons having gone into the works. The event, as may be supposed, caused the most in tense excitement in the neighbourhood, and from the fact of its being known that the explosion happened at the time of the arrival of the north train, th e utmost anxiety was manifested to know whether the pass A. l rers had escaped. An inquiry into the cause of the ca tastrophe, which, at present, as we previously inti mated, remains undisclosed, will forthwith be made. FOUR O'CLOCK, B.M. THE GREAT EXHIBITION. The unfortunate fireman (or stoker). whose ranae was Griffith, has just expired in the Southern Infirmary, leaving a wite and three children; and the drivtr (Va lentine) is not expected to recover. Ile has a wife and five children. The damage done to the goods in the train is very considerable, and for a great distance along the line fragments of the broken waggons and their contents were to be seen for some time after the acci dent. The northern mail train barely escaped the ex plosion, having only lift the station a few minutes be fore the fatal occurrence. —Liverpool Times. RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. BRISTOL, JULY 3. STOCK EXCHANGE.— The share market has been better to-day, and rather more business transactei. Great Western Original Shares, were done at 843! 1 —Ditto, New 171., 14 1 4. LIVERPOOL, JULY 3. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The business to-day was limited, and prices somewhat lower, with a considerable amount of stock pressing for sale. The transactions were as follow : Ambergate and East Junction, 3% dis.—Lancashire and Yorkshire, 52 1 ,x —London and North-Western, New Quarters, 3 7 / 8 p.—Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, Quarters (No. 1), 71,4 till 1853, 12 1 4—Midland, 45 [ 4 —Ditto, Halves, 18%, —South-Eastern and Dover, 23 c.—York and North Midland, 19. MANCHESTER, JULY 3. STocit EXCHANGE. The business to-day was again imited, and prices exhibit a tendendency to droop, though the traffic receipts are encouraging and full of hope. The transactions were as follow :—East Lancashire, 14314—Lanca shire and Yorkshire, 52 3 j4—Londen and North-Western, 123% Ditto, New Quarters, 3 7 ,(. 1 p.—Ditto, Manchester and Birmingham, Quarters (C), 2 5-16 p.—Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 27 13- !6—North Staffordshire, 8% dis.— Shropshire Unions, dis.—South-Eastern and Dover, 23. BIRMINGHAM, JULY 3. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The business transacted to-day in dicated little change in the tone of the share market. No transactions were reported. YORK, JULY 2. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The transactions to-day were as follow—Great Northern, 17,—York, Newcastle, and Bei'. wick, 19 ,L—York and North Midland, Preference, 9. RAILWAY TRAFFIC RETURNS. L O NDON AND N O RTII-WESTERN RAILWAY.—Return of Traffic for the week ending June 29 : Passengers, parcels, &c. £48,395 5 6 Merchandise ... 15,990 11 1 Cattle ... •.. 1,001 8 3 , ••• £3 696 15 3 ••• ••• 1,118 17 3 ... „ „,„ , ••• •• 169 9 8 ... 223 4 2 •.• „.. ••• .... £1,611 11 5 ... 19 10 0 Total .. ... ... £5Ol 11 9 Corresponding period last year.. 618 8 7 ... £lO7 0 9 60 3 5 Total .. 1,781 1 10 )onding week in last year... 1,445 4 9 Total ... £65,387 410 Corresponding week last year 49,077 0 7 Nate.—The returns as published are exclusive of the traffic of the Huddersfield Canal and Shropshire Union, Nerth Union, Preston and Wyre, South Junction, Manchester and Buxton, and Buckinghamshire Railways, and of the propor tion of traffic deducted under agreement with the North Staffordshire Company. EASTERN COUNTIES AND NORFOLK RAILWAT....Traffie return for the week ending June 29 Passengers, parcels, &c. ...£11,574 19 11 Merchandise, cattle, and cartage 6,204 17 1 Total ... £17,779 17 0 Corresponding week of 1850 ... 16,365 12 5 BRISTOL AND EXXTER RAILWAY. —Traffic for the week ending June 22: Passengers Goods Parcels ... Mails ... Total £5,208 5 11 LONDON AND BLACKWALL RAILWAY.—Amount of revenue or the week ending June 29 : Passengers Goods •.. Total £1,631 1 5 Corresponding week last year ... 1,189 11 4 SHREWSBURT AND BIRMINGIIA3I RamwAY..—Traffic re ceipts for the week ending June 29: Passengers ..• ..• L 512 17 10 Carriages, horses, and parcels ... 11 110 Live stock 25 0 0 252 12 1 r t lerchandise and minerals ... MANCHESTER, BUXTON, MATLOCK, AND MIDLANDS JUNG. TION RAILWAY.—Return of traffic for the week ending June 29 : Passengers, &c. Merchandise ... Total ... £167 4 2 Corresponding week last year ... 206 6 1 Scorrtsu CENTRAL RAlLWAY.—Traffic for the Week ending June 29, 1851 : Passengers (12,516), parcels, horses, and carriages ... .£1,015 15 5 Goods, cattle, &c. ... 765 6 5 THE LATE FATAL COLLISION ON THE DIIDI , " RAILWAY.—DERBY, FRIDAY. —At the general quarter mses ,itted sions, held yesterday, Mr. J. Balguy , cha irman, John Th,°l>" , the son, late a guard in the service of the M idla n d K a"waY Company, was indicted for having neglig entl y performance of his duty while conducting a train non the Adefended. 19th of May, at Clay-cross, on the above line, whereby a et r l , ger train left %, h lay-eross the collision was occasioned, and several of dams enge killed. Mr. Willmore prosecuted, and Mr. gl b u rou h g tto a stand- The unfortunate event, it may be recollected, happened on the evening of the 19th of May last. A P. ass Derby at 20 minutes past 9, and on resel lin g f ll am, and have engine broke down, and the train still. It was here alleged that the waved his n and gua ii thoedgtroft'to have t rai , P ne down the line some distance bebin..._ prevented that being done, signalled the goods train, which the side o owing, t o stop . This he did not do, but stood ' Ph ' t w when the goods train came ja e etve his red light for them to stop. The dista c a c g is P. on and the result was that A 1 ' ensued, which was at tended with the naelar!cb l e e r t c onsequences ) previously de scribed. The goods depart ed, erhy five minutes after ths pass one had teririediat and it would appear that on assing Belper, 0 alnconse e station, the train was stopped for a short time, in ( Pence of the preceding one being so little distance a c Mr. Adams, in addressing the jury for the defeae, ommented in rather warm terms on the abominae manageMent of the company. lie contended that the c ompany e stood convicted of recklessness and irre gulariiY ,i tn d ispatch of trains, and instanced the running of „ goo s train, which travelled at times at 40 miles an Dou r, on ly five minutes after a passenger train, which stopped at intermediate stations, -'dof th • • as eN i ence their imprudence In carrying on their traffic. if an example was to be made, it ought to be made upon those in high places, who were over these men, and to whom he attributed the whole of the blame. 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