The Sun. — London, England, 1850-05-14 00:00:00

9'" /1011 ,1 ,00 o' ' irl io utY c on- o ai jab : v 0 Pop gi et t i he I for oof h .oo 4 ) an deriposi e oe cipP r c e f o t hi ' 010° i ciJo the c of I s deo r s if , b ep-, 0 op r. OlO l, aier i p iteo of oiaeor or._ bor o tfii 6b er CIS :a le ig ao ° °O o 6 _ll° rove ' 000' 0 0 v s tio re go vie es' 40 0 _ oo ov I , 3 tO 40 ,4 fortco ll h 9 O .• .30 P .; le ~talne Or e „ as ti " of I t Dlit' Petli Die o . 0 c• O 0 t belr 0 0 ..04 it:10° 0 01P o OS, r , v 0 0, its 1 3 7 9 e 0 ,a L e „e o ' 11 ' 3 • 00' ;oJwit „a ilea' 0 0 0 Loalit 4:i , -* e f ge d iesan the Member far Oxford. The Bill was liberal any colonial m easure ever proposed to the House, The wag acceptable to the great b o d y o f t h e co l on i sts . only objection to the Bill was with reference to a wouguie chamber; b u t even t hi s ob j ection the colonists th e ',have power by th e Bill itself to get rid of i f ei _ n y . snould so thi n k fi t. He appealed, then, to those 7° Memb ers w h o had hitherto supported the Bill still t•hegive it their votes in this, its last stage, and not fur aff• ,t , e delay legislation on the subject. The Right Hon. Iseeneteman pposite had, in the course of his remarks, thoe:red tot e question of waste lands. He considered gr : st u s hjeet of waste lands in the colonies as one of the lead e t importance, 8,3 well fn. the people of Eng zisatitce)sn was the people of the colonies. The sole how they could be best managed for their ) 'meat?i The Houour a bl e G ent l eman thought they t ei d e best managed by the local legislatures. He ~,0 , ,t-rot deny t h at there were in the colonies persons ; res;capable of dealing with the subject, but, at the u tne, he thought they might be exposed to local tiee, sure, not, perhaps, amounting to jobbing or corrup vhieliout s e e, t might end in their passing measures lar ge h w °ald transfer the waste lands to a number of Rou. elder s f ar a very low price. When the Right thee IGe ntlerletee talked of two chambers being better f org,a re for the management of waste land, he mint have t ,. t e en the ease of Canada. [Mr. Gladstone made a re marte ross the table.]:The Right Hon. Gentleman seemed e h e :u a teilt that all the difference lay in having the two two ehere elective, but could he suppose that even with f ece „ 'active chambers there would be so essential a dil e letel:ebetween the members of each as to constitute a fich e R ee the subject of the disposal of waste lands ? `with „'ght Honourable Gentleman had found fault ee arite t 4o Bill because it did not provide for a fa auprn Project of his—the establishment of a dife er - i tr te court.—(Hear.) But the case of Australia of 1. - , 14 from America, inasmuch as it had not one body be e ` 4 ! but four. The question of the franchise theala• ught would be bett e r dealt with by the colonists th e 11 00 e that H ouse . Th e Ri g h t H on . G en tl eman and t ale e . and Learne Member fr Seffield had referred w Zealand, and— d making use of h a hack neyed phrase ~t ' o P °ke of it as one of the blunders of the Colonial ep,se'r, But with regard to New Zealand, the House had 'pr e % e n ' unanimously and bona fide a Bill establishing re peod relative institutions. Thit measure had been sus ell n ed e bir nPlY on the statement of the Governor that in te4 u eability the laws made by so small a minority as Pop el „ 4 ,7 ) Peatis would not be submitted to by the native rev ers t one paying, as they did, nearly the whole re eei ," e• That was t wo y ears ago . A ccoun t s h a d b een laidnd the other day from the colony, and would be eet a , a4 the table shortly. It appeared from them, so ta',er was the Governor with the progress that had e ',Place, and with the tranquillity that prevailed, that le 1 , 1 4' intimated to the Secretary for the Colonies that, 1) had opinion, representative institutions should not ar.onger withheld. Without making any positive iiteetigttilootin the subject, he might say that he had every of laying oa the table this session a measure •!... jr (ie ra nting to New Zealand representative institutions. tt,""tr, hear.) Under all those circumetances, he hoped ''` r e House would read the Bill a third time. e f' 4 ,,• E. DENISON said that on looking at the state eo tee !louse he perceived that it would be useless for tee Y a l lm. Member to propose an amendment of which t ti Go vernment disapproved. The Bill having reached ehiarest stage, he could not refrain from stating that, in t a ut °Pinion, it was, in its present state, objectionable in '"'Y points,and particularly so in the form of consti nej . th „, n which it would confer on the colonies. He f a `lfehe it wrong as respected the federal assembly, and el ' M ore wrong in withholding from the colonists the ja e a xl agetnent of their own waste lauds.—(Hear, hear.) th'had alway s t h oug h t that t h e p r i nc iple of the Bill was !e e granting to the colonists the management of their e h 4 nf rairs. True, a en power was given them of altering c stitution conferred by the Bill; but that power 4h'eh th ey most desired—the power of d eal i ng w i th °4 ' waste lauds—was withheld from them. The Right f ° r4 the Uner-Secretry had alluded to - the feeling in th at of the d Bill, but a it had been announced to them e ato theY would have the management of their waste ' HALVES—Ia General Assembly. y e a r • B. DENISON—When the Bill wa introduced last tt no mention was made of waste lands, and on L o que stion respecting them being put to the Noble rd St the head of the Government, he answered that „e 4 - ,„'cm l ,d take so me days to consider the subject. After s ' i ng deliberat e d upon the subject, the Noble Lord • e eown and announced the determination of the Go te!Teeent to grant the management of the waste land, of t ar! colonists. That declaration had been the source teat satisfaction to the colonists. So much impor -1- , did the colonists attach to the question of waste e. ,l'`'ei that h e b e li eve d th e y wou ld ac ce pt th e manage s..74l of them without this Bill, rather than this Bill 17„theut the management of them.—(Hear, hear.) The 1r "I originally deleeated to the federal assembly the ma agement of waste lands; but when it came to be dis en'sed in Committee, the Noble Lord withdrew the ma ae-Ceeneent not only from the federal assembly, but from colonies altogether.—(Hear, hear.) One reason ef si gned by the N'oble Lord for placing the management w aste lands in the Colonial-office, was the necessity tn . " r etaining uniformity of management. Uniformity' tr . e ant that one rule should be directed to the adminis tite of affairs which were similar; but nothing could More dissimilar than the condition of the separate ▪ ° i n e ies, and therefore uniformity of manage !), h e would be deformity of management in eh i -e " a case. The Noble Lord had also referred to a haP,etch of the Governor of Van Diemen's Land to show et his opinion was that it was desirable the discussion ?r4tiweete lands should not at present be proceeded with. .a• great object of that dispatch was to point out the Nip L s:rence between the colonies, and to show the injury ev h ee, would be done to Van Dienaen's Land if New South e at ea had a preponderating influence in any federal as- Port`'lY In this dispatch reference was made to a „, frona the Legislative Council of New South Wales, I t - 7 °B t important - document, and to which he begged the fb`ention of the Under-Secretary for the Colonies. th e the report had not reached the Colonial-office, r „ e ° aiithor of it had arrived in this country. He had rred with the author of it that very day. [Mr. e, -4 .es intimated that he had got the report.] That re ste.ted, in the strongest manner, the inconvenience, wVe la ,, e ,, ll '-ert and injury of maintaining in New South ets an upset price of 20s. an acre for waste land, rod recommended a reduction to ss. per acre, with a l it or pre-emption to leasehole. He believed that e attempt to keep up the pric d e rs of land had been rtrl .ductive of mischief, and that the scheme of which t e w as a part had failed. The colonists would not ale satisfied unless they obtained the manage- R nt of their waste lands. It would be better to 4e them that management now, and produce satisfac i4F4 a than to have it'wrested from the Colonial•office o a t ' 'rwards. He also regarded the principle on which federal assembly was to be based as vicious. The 'al e and Learned Member. for Sheffield had said that ee tit , federal assembly would be of great use in questions Co i , h r°ad 3 , canals, and railways. He had had some com b —al unicrition on this subject with gentlemen con iloected With the colony, and he wished the House to see le - „,''ne policy of the management of the waste lands in ee n - , .„ (I .onial- e ffice, and the keeping up s high price, b ad operate operate in such a work as a railway. Suppose it ter'totcarred through some waste land, the parties ee ? .ld have pay 20s. an acre, or if they desired con k( miens, would have to make application to the Govern // ; tit in England. Much time would thereby be lost. ii noble Friend said that the present Bill did not inter "'re with an A ct o f P ar li amen t. Now, that was one ie s ° ll why he (Mr. Denison) thought it objectionable. j e t i d Bill as he a did d that the t would not Bill in its present do that shwhape chi was t peased rof a goo to do ,n in the most expedient manner, and that : 1; w ay not such a us e ful measure as it had been described, le . ° would not hesitate to give his vote against the third eading of the Bill.—(Hear.) 4 r• ANSTEY would suggest to the Hon. Gentlemen : ,e- ePrisite who represented and supported the Govern )46'4, the expediency of considering the questions th, o ught under their notice by the Hon. Member who ei nh. ," last soken. With resect, however, to the waste ` - 7 3 or Van Diemen's Land p he did not think that sub liZts excited much interest in that colony, seeing that the r 415 had b een i m p ru d en tly di str ib u ted by various Go . e i rl atuonts which had preceded the present. Of the ad '''`nistration o f t h e l an d fund in that particular colony, I th ought the colonists had every reason to complain. 'lad taken the liberty of proposing an amendment, h he hoped would be favourably entertained by her A t i a ei n e stre Government. Between the years 1824 and `"a system of free emigration to Van Diemen's Land 4,ae prevailed, which had been attended with favourable The emigrants who had proceeded to that co °Y Within those years had done so in the hope and , e nder the impression that the system of penal settleme its 4 4 ' about to be abandoned. The proportion then of ~r t e Population, as c om p a r e d with convict, was not half bad at it w as i n 182 e. B ut i n 1840 th e Governm en t for determin e d u p on ma ki ng th e co lony a receptacle ban convicts, an d s i nce th a t p er i o d the latter population 4 4 increased in proportion to the free population to such of e etent as would c ause great difficulty in the working e an t he new cons tit u ti on , G re at expense had been eeeileti by the increase of crime; and the taxes levied, as is as the corks produce of the land sales, had been absorbed ti le %pence of that additional expenditure. From th year 1828 to 1840 the amount of money invested in 4,seed by th e co l on i s t s h a d b een no l ess th a n 218,000 Z., 1 845' 4 , according to a dispatch from Sir E. Wilmot in i t was not calculated to exceed the sum of 2,0001. fairjost criterion with respect to the administration of 44, 14° ought to be adopted with respect to all the colo retti ' Other colonies might be interested in the propo bet" of the Ron. Member for Melton (Mr. E. Denison), 40 Unfortunately, Van Diemen's Land etas not. The br ,Member h a d sa id th a t if the prop ose s Bill were ei e iegnt under the consideration of the other colo that ~,t i h e Y Would reject it, because it contained sur e Anne ; and he had contended that the mea did nr which they might have expressed their approval that contain s uc h a clauee. Now he (Mr. th at 5 0 Y) thought th e H on. Gentleman was in error in ha r elPpositio n ; f or a l t h oug h such a clause m i g h t not zep,lerleeen in the Bill submitted to the colonists, the and i t of the Committee of Council was before them, th© lams, position know n t o b e the opinion of the Governor that L ams , positi on of the waste lands ought to be left in the teat the the Government. He had, theref o re, cont en d e d the ';'aPProbation of th e co l on i s t s h a d b een g i ven to whi e er,:ecut measure, notwithstanding the provision lead s, " was known to contain with respect to the waste eor iee , An far as popular opinion was concerned, he alth e Z i lthad been expressed in favour of the measure, 13 3' th e had many defects. It was vitally demanded pr ofess mrcurnstancee of all the colonies with which it t il t a t, t bl e hi l e t w o d . eal, but one, and that .. one was New South etch a sort of constitution bad been already Pre set . ) , (1 , and which was therefore indifferent to the eho a le" measure. Was it not strange, then, that they al be d iffere nt asked to d e l ay i t b ecause t h at co l ony was in wateed • ".° its progr ess , a l t h oug h th ree other colonies r luad Van Diemen's Land was in favour of the Nand a repolutiou of censure, al a Mat Til meeting, on the Government for having deferred it last year. He trulted the anendnaer,t of the Hon. Member for Maltoa on the subject of the waste lands would re ceive the favourable attention of the Government, as wok as that which he had himself suggested with respect to the police expenditure, and more especially as he be lieved the principle of the Bill would not be at all affected by either. Mr. AGLIONI3Y begged to make only one or two remarks in that stage of the debate. On the subject of the waste lauds he would not cuter, because he conceived that to be out of place on the present occasion. With respect to the civil list he would only observe, that he thought it ought to be put under the control of the local legislature, and the sooner the better. Now with re spect to the present Bill and the various amendments proposed, it seemed to him that the question raised by the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Oxford was simply this, "would they take the Bill as it was, or post pone it for another session?" Now, weighing the balance of good and evil, he (Mr. Aglionby) was for assenting to the Bill as it was at present. He concurred in a great deal of what had fallen from the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, and agreed with him in some of his objections; but, at the same time, he considered iL was better to take the Bill now than postpone it. It would be of import ance to show the colonists that the Imp trial Legislature was disposed to take a step and then a vote on the management of their own atfa:rs. If he thought that was a coal measure, he would oppose it; but as it recog nised a proper principle of self-government, and gave a means for improving and reforming the constitution hereafter. if toil . nd expedient, he did - not think it ought to be put off for another session. Mr. SCOTT said the Honourable Member who had last spleen supported the Bill because it was not a final one. He considered it a bad and a faulty measure, and therefore he hid come to the conclusion that he ought to vote in favour of the Bill. Now he (Ur. Scut) hoped other Hon. Members would come with him to a different conclusion, and vote for the postponement of the third reading. because it was a bad and o, faulty Bill. It was not at all astonishing that some of the colonies should be anxious to obtain representative institutions; bat he denied the assumption that the present Bill was so much desired by the colonies as had been stated. They who thought with him maintained that there was by no means sufficient evidence before the House to show that the colonists were in favour of the Bill. That was the reason why they moved that the third reading should be postponed until further advices were received from the colonies. They were not to take statements from newspapers as authoritative documents with respect to the state of public feeling in the colonies. They shotild look to the reports of the Legislative Council, the ad dresses of the governors, and the opinions expressed in their petitions by the colonists themselves. The Go vernor of New' South Wales, in two separate dispatches, hal strongly stated his opinion in favour of two assemblies; and the Governor of Van Diemen's Laud had expressed a similar opinion—an opinion which was also entertained by the Legislative Councils of South Australia and of New South Wales. Her Majesty's Ministers themselves had stated that the measure was not in accordance with their own views, but had been brought forward to meet the wishes of the inhabitants of the colonies. Then, again, it was laid down in the report of the Privy Council, which might be looked upon as the portion of the Government most capable of torming a wise decision upon the subject, that a double chamber would be preferable to a single one. Such an arrange ment would at the same time be more consonant with the principles of the British constitution. With regard to the proposal for the establishment of a federative as sembly, be should say that, in his opinion, it would be more desirable that the colonists should send their repre sentatives or delegates to this country than that they should send them to a federative assembly in any of the colonies. He believed that the measure as it then stood was not approved of by the colonists, while it was con (lerened by the Privy Council in this country, and by a large portion of the House of Commons; and he there fore thought that they ought to postpone the third read ing, end endeavour to bring in a Bill ot - a less objection- able character, and one more likely to produce satisfac tion in the colonies. _ _ Mr. SIILEON said he could not help feeling much surprise at the course which her Majesty's Government had pursued upon that subject. At the commencement of the session the House had heard a most liberal colo nial policy clearly pointed out in the Speech from the Throne. The establishment of a double chamber had been strongly advocated by Honourable Members on both sides of the House. The colonial assemblies and the colonial governors had expressed their opinions to the same effect ; and yet the House was then called upon to pass a measure of the directly opposite character. He was not one of those who looked upon the colonies ab incumbrances to this country. On the contrary, he thought that the Imperial greatness of Great Britain was bound up in their maintenance, and he would never be a party to a course of policy which would, at whatever distance of time, present the . *ista of a severance. The two prominent points broughterward in this discussion were, the question of a double chamber, and that of Im perial control over the local tiNina of the colony. With resuect to the first they were fad - that the Bill gave a power to the colonists to modify the it constitution ; but they ought either to have legislated for the colonies, or have Liven them the power of legislating for themselves ; but they had done neither one thing nor the other. It was said that the materials for a second chamber did not exist in the colony, and it was pos sible that a difficulty might be found at present in form ing such a body; but the course which they were asked to pursue would tend to perpetuate this utifirtunate state of things. With reference to the second point, it had ly:en asked what were local Acts ; hutithis he thought had been sufficiently answered by the lion. Baronet the Member for Southwark. After all that had been said by the Noble Lord at the head of the Government what did they see? A Bill brought forward, under which the Co lonial-office was left an incubus still pressing upon the colonies and paralysing their energies. With these views be would support the amendment of the Right Hon. the Member tor the University of Oxford.—(Hear.) Mr. HUME agreed with the Hon. Member that the Colonial-office had b-en an incubus pressing on the energies of the colonies ; and it was because he was anxious to get rid of its baneful domination that he had decided on giving his support to the Bill. His aspira tions had always been to see the colonies governing themelves, for he felt convinced that if they went on in the old track they would lose every colony they had. The Cape of Good Hope afforded a good example of the advantages of self-government. That colony had the power of forming its own government on the broadest principles. There were two chambers there which ho preferred, but then they were elected Chambers and had no nominees among them. In fast, one of his principal objections to this Bill was the mixture of nominees in the representation. The 35th clause gave the colony the power of remodelling its constitution ; I true, it must come home for approval, but this would only cause a slight delay, and would be much better than waiting a year to legislate. Mr. ADDERLEY observed that even the Hon. Mem ber for Montrose and the other adherents of the Go vernment on the Treasury benches who had spoken, while they supported the Bill, yet one and all censured the measure in detsil. The Bill, in fact, if it passed, would owe its success partly to the apathy and partly to the antipathies of the House. The professed objects of the Bill were to consult the wishes of the colonists and to avoid delay. There was an old adage, " more, haste, worse epeed," of which the conduct the Government in this instance efforded an admirable illustration; for it was not likely that any permanent settlement wouti be arrived at under this Bill for twenty years to come. A complete innovation was attempted to be made in the principles on which the British constitution rested, and upon a measure of this kind, anomalous in its character, founded on no precedent, having no analogy with that constitution, ho maintained the colony had a right to be consulted. The same could not be said of the project of the Honourable Baronet the Member for Southwark, which was founded on the British constitu tion. The measure proposed having four different parties in the chamber—there was the Government party, the representative party, the local South Austra lian party, and the federal party. He was satisfied that such an arrangement would never work well. Then with regard to the franchise, it was evident that there would be a general demand for an extension of the franchise in the colony. Questions of that nature Would constantly turn up, and the effect would be that they must be referred t i the mother country. Endless delay would be, the result, and dissatisfaction would inevitably ensue. The Hon. Gentleman the Under-Secretary for the Colonies had told them that the question before the House that night was between the possession of the eolo ni,s and their total loss, and he was ready to admit that such was the case, but be denied that the retention of the veto had anything to do with the retention of the colonies. He would remind the House that it was the exercise of the veto that had caused the loss of the North American colonies, and in the case of South Aus tralia he had no doubt it would lead to endless disputes. He hoped if the Government saw any means by whielt they could more effectually carry out what thea , laid were their two objects namely, the retention of the colonies, and the avoidance of delay, that they would have the courage to postpone or wiiilaraw the present measure. Mr. DIVETT and Mr. Macg7egor rose together, but the latter gentleman gave "...ay. Ho (Mr. Divett) must complain that the Hon. tientleman who had spoken last had made the same speech three times over. He com plained, also, ttat the members of the Colonial Referee Associatior. monopolized all the talking to theithselves; and they were also endeavouring to reftrieile extreme RadUcaliem with extreme Toryism. The present was the third session in which this Bill was brought for ward; and he was thoroughly persuaded that it would give satisfaction to the colony. Mr. STANFORD regretted that he Was not able to giveal ways his Gentleman s d s u i s p p; po oas r eu t dd t oht he regretted e pay a a y a l e n a t d t me this t io nt of h et om th au e nrey ß ta i h g si h nbg t e H tuh o ,aa n st . fell from the Right II onou roalvbaelnredu Government was m aos a o n itilut stohoguill.cel up p eg t r h e e t ir e u x un tr t e r m ul el u y ve i r f teed the G he had always considered that control as most im portant in enabling the Government at home to send out the surplus population. He did not think that the arguments against the exercise of the veto were very happily urged, because the instances:referred to could not under any point of view be brought forward in eases cf it tyrannical interference with the wishes or feelings of the colonists. In the speech of the Hon. and Learned Seconder of the amendment, which he (Mr. Stanford) had lost a very good dinner by remaining in the House t 3 listen to—(t_ laugh)--be thought that Hon. and Learned Gentleman had done himself injustice. He had compared himself to a British Diogenes, seeking for the constitution, and yet he had objected to the Bill because it was not analagous to the constitution which be could not find. The Hull. and Learned Member had also described the people in the colonies as being ar , rayed against and hatine each other, and he must there , lore express his astonishment that he should have urged as an argument against the Bill that it would not make LONDON, S t 1 N, the people of the ,colony happy. Although he did not thick the Bill by any means a perfect measure, he should vote against the amendment. Mr. MACGREGOR, though not content with many of the provisions of the Bill, yet looking to the evil of further delay, and considering the good that it con tained, he would support it, that it might be sent out to the colonies at once. If the Bill were to be a final mea sure, like the constitution given to the American colo nies, he should not give it his assent; but seeing that it lett so much to the colonists themselves, and having confidence in the Noble Lord at the bead of the Government, that he would not deny to the colonists any measures which appeared to them to be practical, he saw no reason for rejecting the Bill. With respect to the local affairs of the colonies, he thought the Colo nial-office ought to leave to the colonists themselves the management of all those concerns which were of a pecu liarly local character; but he would make some excep tions to these. He would not allow the colonies to im pose heavy or restrictive duties on goods imported into their own territories either from the home country or a foreign country, or from one colony to another; and the various matters included in the schedules of the Bill he would have to the colonists themselves to regulate; and with respect to salaries, while he would leave the sala ries of the governor and the chief justice a matter of ar rangement for the home Government, he would leave all other public salaries to the management of the colonies. He considered also that some alteration should be made in the price of land in those colonies, which was so high that it drove many to the United States who would otherwise proceed to Australia. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the amendment ... 128 Against it ... ... ... 226 Majority Mr. ROEBUCK moved to extend the provisions of the Bill so as to enable the legislatures of the British North American colonies to' estahlish a federative assembly fir those colonies. He considered that the only way to create a national feeling in those colonies so as to prevent their being absorbed by the United States. _ Lord J. RUSSELL objected to the clause being brought up. He did so without entering into the ques- tion whether it was wise to establish such a federative assembly. He considered it fir better to keep the Bill to its purpose of providing fir the legislature of Australia, without having mixed up with it any question of a federative assembly for the American provinces. Mr. ROEBUCK would not press his motion. He only wished to record his opinion on the subject. The motion was negatived without a division. Mr. MOWATT withdrew the amendment which stood in his name. _ _ Mr. AGLIONBY proposed the following clause, pro viding fur representative institutions and the means of self-government within the islands of New Zealand:— " Whereas an Aot was paased_in the tenth year of the reign of her Majesty, intituled 'An Act to make far ther provision for the Government of the New Zealand Islands;' and another Act was passed in the twelfth year of the reign of her Majesty, intituled 'An Act to suspend for five years the operation of certain parts of an Act of the tenth year of her present Majesty, for making further provision for the Government of the New Zealand Islands, and to make other provisions in lieu thereof;' and whereas it is expedient that earlier and other provision should be made for securing the rights of representative institutions, and the means of self-go vernment, within the islands of New Zealand: be it enacted, that so much of the said last-recited Act as suspends certain parts of the said first-recited Act be hereby repeated, and that the said first-recited Act shall be in full force and effect until and unless it shall be hereafter repealed or altered." Lord J. RUSSELL said the Government had received very recently letters from the governor of New Zealand, stating that the condition of the colony was so satisfac tory that the constitution could be safely applied now. At the ssme time, there were points in it which the Go vernment wished to amend. But as there would not be time to do so this year they would, he hoped, be enabled to bring in a satisfactory measure next year. Mr. AGLIONBY would, under these circumstances, withdraw his motion. In reply to Mr. V. SMITH, Mr. HAWES said the stockholders beyond the 19 counties would have the power of sending representa tives to the Legislative Council. The franchise would not be touched by the Bill, but would be left to the Co- lonial Legislature. Mr. E. DENISON then moved that the Legislature of each colony should have the management of the waste lands within its limits. Hit amendment was upon clause 13, line 35, and was as follows, after the word " respec tively," to insert the following words:—" And for sell ing, demising, granting licences for occupation of or otherwise disposing of waste lands of the Crown within the limits of the colony, and for the appropriation of the money to arise from such disposition of such lands, any thing in an Act of the 6th year of her Majesty. intituled An Act for regulating the Sale of Waste Lands be longing to the Crown in the Australian Colonies,' or in an Act of the 10h year of the reign of her Majesty to amend such Act, and to make further provision for the management of such land, to the contrary notwithstand ing; provided always, that one equel half part of such gross proceeds shall be, and the same is hereby appro • priated towards the expense of removal from the United Kingdom to the colony wherein such revenue accrued of emigrants from the United Kingdom." Mr. HAW ES said the question was certainly one of great importance; but still he thought it would be better the Bill should stand as it was. Opinions even in the colonies were divided on the question; a fact ho proved by extracts from ti memorial of certain stockholders, asking Government to adhere to the old policy. Under the existing Act nearly 2,000,0001. had been raised and expended on labour and emigration to the colonies. The objection of the Legislative Council of New South Wales was not to the principle or policy of the Act. but to the price of land; but out of every 205., the price of an acre of land in the colony, 10s. were spent in local improve ments, and 10s. upon the emigration of labourers. The present price prevented the absorption of more land than could be satisfactorily cultivated, and hindered the evils of accumulation of territory in the hands of individuals. He hoped, therefore, the motion would not be pressed to a division. Mr. HUME thought the question should come sepa rately betore the House; and he trusted a division would not be taken on it at that moment, but that the subject should be deferred for discussion to an early day. For that reason he should vote against the motion if it went to a division. _ _ Mr. SCOTT said the principle of 201. an acre had been adopted because the South Australian Company had obtained land at that price and did not wish to sell it for less. That was the reaion why an Act of Parlia• went was passed raising the price of land in the colonies from ss. to 20s. an acre. During six years prior to the Act the land sales brought 800,0001. Mr. MUTT denied the statements of the Hon. Member as far as they related to the South Australian Company. The House divided, when there appeared — For the amendment ... , 82 Against it .., „, „, 222 Majority against the amendment --140 Mr. ANS rEY then moved to insert in schedule C the figures " 5,0001.," instead of " 13,3001." Mr. HAWES eculd not consent to the amendment, and eventually Mr. Anstcy withdrew it, and the Bill passed. STAMP DUTIES BILL. The House went into Committee on this Bill, and The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER placed in the hands of the Chairman the resolutions which formed the foundation of the Bill. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY wished to know the nature of the resolutions, otherwise the House would be sanc tioning something which they did not know the na ture of. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was un• derstood to say, that the resolutions he now proposed strictly carried out the scheme which he had previotisly stated on Friday last, for reducing taxation to the extent of 300,0001. There was to be a duty of one per cent. on conveyances, and one-eighth per cent. on mortgages and bonds. The only alteration was with respect to the schedule for Ireland, which would be deferred. Mr. DISRAELI thought the resolutiont ought not to be printed berore they were submitted to the house. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it would be competent, at the next stage, far any Hon. Member to propose any alteration or reduction in Com mittee. Sir WILLOUGHBY was of opinion that, instead of a reduction to the extent of 600,0001., as stated, then-, would be really an itiotease of taxation: This showed the necessity of the Cominittee understanding *hat the resolutions *ere before they agreed to let theth be brought IN lie was perfectly persuaded that a firm conviction pervaded the minds Of the mass of the people that if this Bill were Oaisedi the nation would be grossly deceived etect; for, instead of reducing taxation, the result would be to increase it. He wished the Right Hon. Gentleman to lay on the table of the House those calculations on which he arrived at his conclusion, so as it might be seen where the loss of 300,000/. would arise. He thought the Right Hon, Gentleman ought to afford the data, showing whore the loss to taxation or where the gain would be. For his own part, he believed the loss was greatly overrated, and he suspected there was some great error in tha Right Roth Gentleman's calculations; therefore, he coneeiiied it *as but fag' to the house to lay before it some documents which could easily be obtained from the Stamp-office, to show the am (met of loss anticipated with respect to leases and conveyfincm Mr. 11011111 thought the resolutions ought td be printed, and ntit into every Member's hands, so that all might liiicieritand where the loss or where the increase would arise. Mr. GROGAN *Isl.:n(1 to ittiow if it were competent for any Member in donatilittee ,to move a reduction in any one of the.proposed . The CHAIKCIitibOO dt tle tIdEIEQUER said fe &Ants *att'it not be included in the reductions. He in tended to confine the measure to certain items of the stamp duties already enumerated, without intending to include anything else. Mr. FORBES thought the schedule ought first to be printed, for the information of Members. Mr. MULLINGS having given a list of the items which were to be affected by the proposed alteration, wished to know if ho had name] them all? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER remarked that in the schedule agreements were included which were not included in the previous schedule. Mr. GROGAN desired to know whether it would be competent to move for the reduction of any other of the stamp duties in Committee? Mr. GOULBURN thought the resolutions ought to be adopted. They would then appear in the votes, and any Hon. Gentleman who might have an aolon'- nant to move when the report *us, brought up won) d find himself ;placed in the same situation as he was at present. The re§,olr ttions were then adopted. TITESD AY THE RAILWAYS ABANDONMENT BILL The amendments to this Bill were inserted, and or- dered to be printed and reported o❑ Friday next. FACTORIES BILL. Lord ASHLEY wished that the Bill should be re committed pro forma for the purpose of withdrawing his clause, and having the Government amendments in serted. _ _ Sir G. GREY said the amendments would be the same as he had stated previously, with one exception, making provisions for loss by water. Colonel SIBTHORP objected to compromises of any kind. He could not say that the support he had pro mised to give to the Noble Lord would be continued. In answer to Lord J. MANNERS, Sir G. GREY stated that he would have the discussion on the Bill as early es possible. The Bill then went through Committee pro forma, and was ordered to be recommitted on 23d May. MISCELLANEOUS ESTI MATES. _ _ In answer to a question from Colonel SIBTHORP, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re marked that six classes of the civil service were printed on the table for some time. He hoped the House would allow him to take the votes on the civil contingencies on Friday next. The House then went into Committee of Ways and Means. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER pro posed a vote of 8,558,7001. Exchequer-bills, which was ag reed to. The Fees (Court of Common Pleas) Bill was read a third time and passed. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL brought in a Bill to alter and amend the law relating to proceedings by pro cess of attachment of goods in the Borough Courts of Record in Ireland. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX CHEQUER, the follow ing Committee on Savings' Banks was nominated :—The Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Lord Mayor of Dublin, Mr. Henry Herbert, Mr. Goulburn, Mr. John Abel Smith, Sir George Clerk, Sir William Gibson Craig, Mr. Herries, Mr. Poulett Scrope, Sir John Yarde Buller, the Marquis of Kildare, Mr. Ker Seymer, Mr. Shafto Adair, Mr. William Fagan, and Mr. Eramston. The House adjourned at One o'clock. VULCAN AND VENUS. (In consequence of several typogr a phi ca l errors occurring in its previous quotation, we have been requested try reprint the fallowing stanzas from Aletheia; or, the Doom of Mythology, a new Poem just published by the Messrs. L 91101411 and Co.) White though the Goddess, black the God of Fire, Black with the reeking of his dusky forge, light aspire, mouth of gorge W p hi a le rk lr m es u ta le b ib ts h h i e s r f t u o r nAu c e e s m o o f With the loud blasts his windy bellows blow, Snorting the cinders to a rosy glow. Before his anvil stands the brawny lord, His forehead smirch'd with labour's grimy tan; His del) breath heaving to his work abhorr'd; i His body crippled by ts earthward ban; On smoking thunderbolt with batter'd flank His ponderous hammer whirls with leaden clank. Down from his shaggy chest, in glistening drops, The warm sweat falls, as fromthe fainting noon Of sultry autumn days, .o er bristling crops The cloudless skies rain forth their scanty boon; So from the fruitful season of his prime Ooze the rare showers that nurture deeds sublime. tumult dire, Gnome; dire, Whene'er to him the vi ctim boars ex p ir e. The Subterranean thus, with gnarl 6 I thews Melts 'mid the disma l discord of hi s home , Where, hurtling blocks t hat stu bborn metals bruize, There il v the e k lu n g t e h C r i y u c s l , o a p na 7 d d tthhee Yet sweeter thrill'd the pulse of his rude life When, from the creaming of the ruby tide That lav'd the shores of Cyprus with a strife Of shells and blossoms scatter'd side by side, Born from the foam, his naked spouse, between The opening valves, shone forth of pearls the Queen. And wafted stately to the floral strand By cool ambrosial breathings from the lips Of the gay zephyrs, o'er the glittering sand Of purple Cytherea, on the tips Of the fresh billows, like a flower afloat, Glode the strange glory in its fragile boat. Then downward press'd the Seasons to the beach Of all things beautiful, to her the fair Young goddess of all beauty, fondly each, And lavishly, their treasures proffer'd there — The summer citron, and tile harvest rice, The vernal crocus and prismatic ice. A gorgeous carpet for her path lay strown, The jonquil, and the pansy , and the musk ; And luscious banquets from the trees were blown, Figs from the bough, and almonds from the husk, The Pleasures numberless, and Graces three, Around her frolick'd in nude ecstasy. And still she stands, as stood her marble shade In Paphos, or as, yet, the magic mould Smiles from the pedestal—a shrinking maid, Dazzling the oaring pilgrims who behold That miracle of art, whose timorous arms Veil, yet reveal, inebriating charms. 'Round her lithe waist th' elastic girdle spans, Rising and tailing as her passions swell, Token of man's futurity, which fans The life that ♦acillates 'twist heaven and hell, Typo of eternity, whose round duth roll— The zone of joy, the cestus of the soul. Down, from the slacken'd stress of her small hand, Flutter the damask petals of the rose, With greenest myrtles twia'd, a vermeil band, To bind the pallor of her brow's repose, While to her loving pa'm yet cliogs the prize, Pluck'd in proud Ids's orchard paradise. The prize awarded in the lists of lore — A red-gold apple ripen'd to the core By sunny looks, that, coming from above, Lived in the thoughts of Paris evermore, Visions prefiguring with carnal joy His dream of bliss, the nightmare of old Troy. Close to her dimpled feet the ringdoves press, Her feet like ivory flush'd with shadow 'd pink; Full in the splendour of her loveliness Bask the twin swans that from her goblet drink; And sparrows, dear as that which Lesbia mourned, Whose lowly tomb Catullus' lays adorned, Flit in gyrations of congenial glen, O'er the blithe Queen of laughter, from whose smile, Rays forth the happiness that fitfully, With jocund mimes dejected hours beguile; So to the Paphian dame flock Cyprian With haggard cheeks and gay disorder'd curls. So with half sad and half exultant air, Pandemus twangs his silken-bridled bow, Driving his poison'd shafts now here, now there, Piercing the bosoms of the high, the low, The greybntrd peasant, and the child-like prince, Who, thrilling, sigh, and--sighing—thrilling, wince. Love tempering thus, like acids in the plum, The gladness and the grief that Beauty wears, When Youth, with sudden rapture stricken dumb, Her fleshly form with fancied shapes compares,— Though high o'er Venus Cupid reigns above, Beauty's the mother of celestial Love!" AMERICAN NE WS• There is but little news in addition to that brought by the Atlantic. A Philadelphia correspondent, writ :—" There have been few i mn g ail o i n ne th o e fy O o th ur ult l . e , tt s e a r ys of the 27th inst., but I am or no political movements wor thy o f note since the o i f v t e h g e en N e i r c a a l ra s g at u i a sf t a r c e t a io ty n t . c le o a o r t n ai t n h e a ci t , athpepetaenie g r r to The canal, however, goes on slowly. Mr. White, glad therein th e American company's agent, is in Nicaragua, and endeavouring to get a modification of the charter. Ply the original terms one half of the stock must be held by American cit izen s; but this is found imprac ticable, and M r. White is trying to have the charter changed, so that the stock may be thrown open to the world. A steamer and barges are soon to be put on the lake, and carts will transport freight over the fifteen miles of the almost level road between the lake and the shore of the Pacific. About 900 miles will be saved by this route, and the Ni ca r a gua cli mate is said to be delightful. The following decree, dated at Leon de Nicaragua , j and issued by the Go vernment of Nicaragu a, has .ust reached us :-- " The Supreme theater of the state of Nicaragua, being informed that on or before the lat of May next, the American line of ~stea.mers in the Pacific Ocean pro pose to establish depots in the port of Realijo, and to tench there in their voyages o o btains . upplies of coals and provisions, therefore, and i n virtue of the powers con ferred by the law of the 4th of October last, he does " DECREE. " Art. 1. The said lines of steamers shall have the right to enter and depart from the said p or t free of all anchorage or tonnage du ties. " Art. g. All vessels exclusively carrying coal for said steamers" ball be Allowed to enter said port and dis charge their cargoes Upon the same terms. " Art. 3. Each of the said lines of steamers shall have the privilege of erecting su ch wharfs or d o ck s as may be necessary for the objects above indicated, under such regulations as may be agreed upon with the Go vernment, " Art. 4. All regulations conflicting with the provi sions of this decree are hereby suspended. " Dated in Leon, the 7th N day of March 1850. " ORBERTO, RAMIREZ." A shocking occurrence took place a few weeks since on tit entities.. Mrs , Ireland and her daughter, from Illinois, were froten to death. They were on their way to California,Witli their husband and father. Conscious that they were dying, they requested him to save his own life and leave them to their fate—and this brave and affectionate man left them accordingly ! Some months ago, at Fox River, on the prairies, a young man named Green, impelled by a diabolical spirit of evil and cruelty, shot an Indian squaw. Her tribe demanded him, was at first refused, but at length threatening the lives of the whole party, the murderer was given up, and the Indians then skinned him alive before his father, and brother, and friends! He lived four hours after being flayed. Such is an instance of the revenge of savages—horrible indeed, but wan tonly and most wickedly provoked. THE TEA. TRADE, MAT 13.—The deliveries of lea last week were 631,490 lb., being a decided increase upon he last two or three weeks. The market, nevertheless, has tiled heavy daring ate last few dais fVr Moat doricriPtion& MAY 14, 1850. EVENING, PARLIAI TARY DIVISIONS. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) MONDAY, MAY 13. AUSTRALIAN COLONIES GOVERNMENT BILL. Order for Third Reading read ; Motion made, and Ques tion proposed, "That the Bill be now read a third time:" — Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words " this House, adverting to the numerous provisions of the Austra lian Colonies Government Bill, which require the interfer ence of the authorities at home in the future regulation of the affairs of those Colonies, and desirous to reduce as far as possible the occasions for such interference, and to place the political institutions of the said Colonies upon the basis most likely to be permanent, will not give its further sanction to that Bill until there shall have been afforded to the governors, legislatures, and people of the said Colonies an opportunity of considering the provisions of the measure as they stand, in conjunction with the several propositions varying from them which have been submitted to the notice of the House," instead thereof : —Question put, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question." The House divided : MAJORITY—AYES, 226. Abdy, Sir Thomas Fordyce, A. D. Pechell, Sir G. Acland, Sir T. Forster, Matthew Peel, Sir Robert Adair, R. A. Freestun, Colonel Pelham, D. A. Aglionby, H. A. French, F. Perfect, Robert Alcock, Thomas Glyn, G. C. Peto, Samuel Anson, Colonel Grace, 0. D. Pigott, Francis Anstey, Thomas C. Graham, Sir Jame• Pilkington, James Armstrong, Sir A. Granger, T. C. Pinney, William Armstrong, R. B. Greene, John I'lowden, W. 11. Bagshaw, John Greene, Thomas I'lumptre, J. P. Baines, M. T. Grey, Sir George Power, Dr. Baring, Sir F. Grey, It. W. Powlett, Lord W. Barnard, E. G. Grosvenor, Lord It. Price, Sir Robert Bass,M. T. Grosvenor, Earl Raphael, Alexander Berkeley, Admiral Harris, Richard Rawdon, Colonel Berkeley, Henry F. Haste, Alexander Reid, Colonel Berkeley, C. L. G. Ilatchell, John Reynolds, John Bernal, Ralph Hawes, Benjamin Ricardo, J. L. Birch, Sir T. Ilayter, W. G. Ricardo, Osman Blackall, S. W. Headlarn, Thomas Rice, E. R. Bouverie, E. P. Heald, James Rich, Henry Boyle, Colonel Heathcoat, John Robartes, T. J. Bramston, T' W. licnea,ge, Edward Roche, E. B. Brand, Thomas Heneags, G. 11. W. Roinilly, Colonel Brocklehurst, John Ilenry, Alexander ltomilly, Sir John Brockman, E. D. Heyworth, Lawrence Rumbold, C. E. Brotherton, Joseph Hobliouse, Sir John Russell, Lord John Brown, W. Hobhouse, T. B. Russell, F. C. 11. Browne, R. D. Hodges, T. L. Rutherford, A. Burke, Sir T. J. Hodges, T. Twisden Salwey, Colonel Busfeild, W. Howard, Lord E. Scrope, G. P. Buxton, Sir E. Howard, C. W. Scully, Francis Cardwell, E. Howard, P. 11. Seymour,.Lord Carter, J. B. Ilume, J. Shatto, It. D. Cayley, E. S. Ilumphery, Ald. Sheil, it. L. Chaplin, W. J. Hutchins, E. J. Sheridan, R. B. Childers, J. W. Hutt, William Smith, J. A. Clay, James Jervis, Sir John Smith, J. B. Clay, Sir W. Keogh, William Somers, J. P. Clerk Sir G. Kershaw, James Somerville, Sir W. Clifford, 11. M. King, P. J. Spearman, H. J, Cobden, R. L?bouchere, Henry Stanford, J. F. Cockburn, Alex. Lascelles, W. S. Stanstleld,lW. R. Collins, W. Lemon, Sir Charles Stanton, W. H. Colvile, C. R. Loch, James Stuart, Lord Dudley Cowan, Charles Locke, Joseph Talbot, C. It. Cowper, W. F. M'Cullagh, W. T' Talbot, J. 11. Craig, Sir W. G. M‘Gregor, John Tancred, 11. W. Crawford, W. S. Mahon, O'Gorman Tenison, E. K. Crowder, It. B. Mangles, R. D. Thicknesse, R. A. Cubitt, William Martin, C. W. Thompson, Colonel Dalrymple, Captain Martin, Samuel Thornely, T. Dashwood, G. H. Matheson, James Townshend. Captain Davie, Sir Henry Matheson, Colonel Tanen, H. Devereux,'J. T. Maele, Fox Tynte, Colonel Divett, Edward Mitchell, T. A. Vane, Lord H. Drummond, Henry Moffatt, George Verney, Sir H. Duff, George S. Monsell, William Villiers, Charles Duke, Sir James Mow. e, G. H. Vivian, J. 11. Duncan, Viscount Morgan, 11. K. Walmsley, Sir J. Duncan, George Morison, Sir,W. Walter, John Duncuft, John Morris, David Watkins, Colonel Dundas, Admiral Mostyn, E. M. Wawn, J. T. Dundas, Sir David Mowatt, Francis Willcox, Brodie Dunne, Colonel Mulgrave, Earl Williams, John Ebrington, Viscount .Muntz, G. F. Willyams, If. Ellis, John Mare, Colonel Williamson, Sir H. Elliot, John E. I%.Torreys, Lord Wilson, James Evans, Sir De Lacy O'Brien, Sir Timothy Wood, Sir Charles Evans, J. O'Connell, Maurice Wood, W. P. Evans, William O'Flaherty, Anthony Wrightson, W. B. Ewart, William Ogle, S. C. Wyvill, M. Fagan, William Ord, William Ferguson, Colonel OsborneAltalph Ferguson, Sir R. Paget, Lord C. Fitzpatrick, J. W. Parker, John Foley, John H. Patten, J. W. TELLERS. Hill, Lord 31. Bellew, R. M. MINORITY—NOES, 123. Adair, Hugh E. Farnham, E. Napier, Joseph Adderley, C. B. Farrer, James Neck!, Joseph A rkwright, G. gellowes, E. O'Brien, Sir Lucius Bailey, Joseph Filiner, Sir E. O'Connor, Feargus Baillie, H. J. Floyer, John Oswald, Alexander Baiikes, George Forbes, William Palmer, Robert Baring, Francis Fox, S. L. Portal, Melville Bateson, Thomas Galway, Viscount Prime, Richard Bentinck, Lord 11. Gooch, E. S. Rendlesham, Lord Beresford, William Goulburn, Henry Repton, G. W. Berkeley, Grantley Granby, Marquis of Sandars, George Bernard, Viscount Grogan, Edward Scholetield, W. Best, John Gwyn, Bowel Scott, Francis Blackstone, W. Hale, R. B. Simeon, John Blair, Stephen Halsey, T. P. Smith, R. V. Blandford, Marquis Harris, Captain Smyth, John G. Booth, Sir R. G. Herbert, H. A. Smollett, A. Boyd, John Herbert, Sydney Somerset, Captain Brisco, M. Hildyard, R. C. Stafford, Augustus llroadley, 11. Hildyard, T. B. Stanley, Edward Bromley, Robert Hodgson, W. N. Stephenson, Robert Brooke, Sir A. B. Hood, Sir A. Stuart, Henry Campbell, W. F. Hope, H. T. Stuart, J. Carew, W. P. Hope, Alexander Sullivan, Michael Castlereagh, Vie. Hornby, John Sutton, Henry Cliatterton, Colonel JollilTe, Sir W. G. Taylor, Thomas E. Christopher, R. A. Jones, Captain Thesiger, Sir F. Christy, Samuel Law, C. E.: Thompson, Alderman Clive, Henry B. Lennox, Lord A. Thornhill, G. Cobbold, J. C. Lewisham, Vise. Tolleinache, John Cocks, T. S. Lindsay, Colonel Turner, 0. J. Codrington, Sir W. Lockhart,:A. E. Vesey, Hon. T. Cole, H. A. Leng, Walter Vivian, J. E. Corry, 11. Mackenzie, W. F. Vyse, H. Deedes, W. Manners, Lord C. Waddington, H. S. Denison, J. E. Manners, Lord G. Walpole, S. H Disraeli, B. Manners, Lord J. Welby, G. E. Hod, J. W. Meux, Sir Henry Wortley, J. S. Drummond, Home Miles, William Yorke, E. T. 1 Duckworth, Sir J. Molesworth, Sir W. loung, Sir John Dundas, George Morgan, 0. East, Sir J. Mailings, J. R. TELLERS. Estcourt, J. B. B. Mundy, William Gladstone, W. E. Evelyn, W. T. Naas, Lord Roebuck, J. A. Amendment proposed, page Zr, line 35, after the word " respectively," to insert the words " and for selling, demising, granting licences for occupation of, er otherwise disposing of waste lands of the Crown within the limits of the Colony, and for the appropriation of the money to arise from such disposition of such waste lands, anything in an Act of the ' sixth year of her Majesty, intituled, ' An Act for regulating the sale of waste lands belonging to the Crown in the Australian Colonies,' or in au Act of the tenth year of the reign of her Majesty, to amend such Act, and to make further provision for the management of such laud, to the contrary notwithstanding : Provided always . , that one equal half part of such gross proceeds shall be, and the same is hereby ap propriated towards the expense of removal from the United Kingdom to the Colony wherein such revenue accrued of Emigrants from the United Kingdom." Question put, "That those words be there inserted." The louse divided : MINORITY—AYES, 82. Adair, Hugh E. Estcourt, J. B. B. Mundy, William Adderley, C. B. Farrer, James Naas, Lord Alexander, X. Filmer, Sir E. Napier, Joseph Ansley, P. C. Forbes, Wm. O'Connell, M. J. Arkwright, George Forester, G. C. Parke, C. W. Ilagot, William Fox, S. L. Palmer, Roundell Baldock,7E. 11. Galway, Viscount Portal, Melville Bankes, G. Goddard, A. L. Prime, Richard Beresford, William Gore, W. It. 0. Rendleshatn, Lord Bernard, Viscount Grogan, E. Repton, G. W. J. Blackstone, W. S. Halsey, T. P. Scholetield, William Blair, Stephen Hamilton, J. If. Sibthorp, Colonel Booth, Sir It. G. Ileneage, G. H. Simeon, John Brisco, M. Hood, Slr A. Smollett, A. Buller, Sir Y. Hornby, John Somerset, Captain Cabbcll, B. B. Hudson, George Stanley, E. H. Carew, W. P. Johnstone, Sir J. Stuart, 11. Chatterton, Colonel Jolliffe, Sir2W. G. Sturt, 11. G. Chichester, Lord J. Knight, F. W. Sutton, H. M Clive, 11. B. Knox, Colonel Thompson, Ald. Cobbold, J. C. Lennox, Lori A. Vesey, T. Cocks, T. S. Lewi,iam, Vis. Vyse, It. 11. Cole, Hon. 11. A. Lockhart, A. E. Willoughby, Sir H. Deedes, W. Mackenzie, W. F. Walpole, S. H. Disraeli, B. Manners, LCrd J. Dod, J. W. Meux, Sir H. TELLEEs. Drummond, Henry Miles, Philip W.. 5. Scott, Francis Duckworth, Sir J. Miles, William Denison, J. E. Duudas, George Mullings, J. it. THE PROJECTED L11P1?0 VEATIENT OF ST. PAUL'S CHURCHYARD. Yesterday a deputation waited by appointment upon the Dean and Chapter of St. Paul's Cathedral with reference to the projected improvements proposed by Mr. Barber. of the firm of Barber, Howse, and Meade, St. Paul's Churchyard. The deputation consisted of Alderman Wilson (the Alderman of the ward), Sir James Duke, William Hunter, Mr. Deputy Pel.;cock (Chairman of the Commission of City Sewers), Mr. Deputy Harri,on, and Messrs. Blake and Barber. There were present also the Dean of the Cathedral, the Rev. J. E. Tyler, the Hon. and Rev. H. M. Villiers, M.A., Archdeacon Hale, and the Rev. T. Dale, Mr. Cockerel' (the architect to the Cathedral authorities), Mr. C. Hodgson (the clerk of the Chapter), Mr. Haywood (the surveyor of the Com mission of City Sewers), and Mr. Daw (their clerk). This deputation waited upon the ecclesiastical autho rities at half-past 11, and the interview lasted until a quarter before 1. The Dean took the chair. Aldermanmos endeavoured to point out the necessity of setting back the rails, should it be de termined eventually to preserve them as a venerable testimonial of antiquity, and reminded the Chapter that 80 years ago Parliament had foreseen the pro. bability of such an alteration at a future period. Mr. BLAKE and Mr. Deputy HARRISON contended for the total removal of the rails as likely to cause a great public improvement both as regarded the Gl thedral itself and the traffic convenience. Mr. COCKERELL denied that the removal of the railing would at all improve the appearance of the structure, and strongly contended fur leaving things as they are. Mr. BARBER said the opinions entertained by se veral surveyors and architects of first-rate eminence were opposed to that of the gentleman who had just opposed the project. He had received letters from such advocates thanking him for the efforts he had been making to accomplish the object of removing what almost everybody now considered to be a nui sance and an eyesore. Mr. HAYWOOD showed that the carriage-way was not at present as wide in all its parts as either the entrance from ChPapside or from Ludgate-hill. Sir J. DUKE said, the City had further improve ments in contemplation, and had ab'tained from building on the vacant ground at the end of Cheap side because of the contemplated formation of that F street in a direct line with Newgate-street. He hoped the heads of the Church would reconsider the subject, and feel disposed to meet the wants of their fellow-citizens, and to further the interests of this great city when they could accomplish such an object with great promptitude and without any inconvenience to themselves. He thought the Court of Aldermen would agree to remove the cab-stand if that were considered desirable. The DEAN could not see that there would be any use in widening the churchyard unless the end of Ludgate-hill, where, he contended, all the stoppages occurred, were widened. The authorities, he said, intended to open the church-yard for the use of foot passengers, and the Chapter, now they had heard the deputation, would re-consider the subject and send an answer. METROPOLITAiV INTEMIENTS BILL. Last evening a crowded meeting, convened by the Metropolitan Sanitary Association, was held at the Crown and Anchor Tavern, StratO, in favour of this Bill. Lord R. Grosvenor, M.P., filled the chair, and on the platform were Lord Ebrington, M.P., Air. Mac kinnon, M.P., Mr. G. Thompson, M.P. Mr. Wyld. M.P., the Rev. Dr. Worthington, Dr. George Alfred Walker, and many others who have distinguished themselves in the cause of sanitary reform. The CHAIRMAN, in opening the proceedings, ob served, that the subject they had assembled to discuss was one of extreme importance to every single mem ber of the country—the decent interment of the dead, or, as the Patriarch Abraham had more appropriately described it, " the burial of the dead out of our sight ;" because when the spiritual part of us had winged its way from the last remains of mortality, however much they might have been cherished during life, nature spoke to us in a warning voice, not to be misunderstood, that if we had any regard for the sur vivors we must consent to bury the dead out of our sight. Until recently it was supposed that our system of sepulture was carried on in a decent manner; but public feeling had been sud denly disturbed by the revelations contained in Mr. Walker's pamphlet, which revealed to their astonished eyes that scenes were enacted in this coun try which not only were not creditable to us, but which would have disgraced Hottentots and Esqui maux. The parties impugned had loudly denied the fact. Inquiries were made; a case of most crying evil was established ; and it was discovered, that of all the nations of the earth between Calcutta and Ca lifornia, England was the only one, with all her boasted civilization, that had failed to make provision for the decent interment of the dead ; and not only , that, but we had suffered interests to grow up in per petuation of that horrible system which it almost de fied human ingenuity to remove. We had at last a practical remedy in the shape of a Bill now before Parliament.—(Hear, hear.) The principle on which that Bill was founded would meet, he thought, with universal concurrence.—(Cheers and " No, no.") The principle to which he alluded was this—that that which was of universal concern should not be left to chance arrangements or isolated exertions ; but that in the case of the interment of the dead it should be carried into effect by those who had no particular in terest to serve, who should be entirely responsible to public opinion, and who should carry their duty into effect in such a manner, that every man, woman, and child, who chose to inquire, should be able to ascertain exactly in what manner the remains of their friends and relatives were to be disposed of.—(Cheers and uproar, and cries of "So they can now.") The reason why that measure most strongly commended itself to his sympathies was that it was for the benefit of the working classes.—(Oh, and cheers.) He firmly believed that there was implanted iu the work• ing classes of this country the strongest sentiment for the dead. He knew instances in which they had almost starved themselves to secure the decent inter ment of their friends ; but that honourable, honest, dignified feeling had been most grossly outraged by the scenes they bad been compelled to witness. They might think it a sentimental or fanciful,idea of his ; but he did indulge a hope it these national cemeteries should be established, as was contemplated by this Bill, at no very extreme distance from the metropolis, that on the Sunday the working classes of this great metropolis would go forth on the railways for the sake of searching out the spot and planting a flosser on the tomb of some dear lost one.—(Cheers.) He was not going to discuss the Bill in extreme detail; their object was, while the danger was imminent, by an overwhelming majority that evening to show to the Government that they participated in that honour able feeling, and were anxious to apply the earliest possible remedy to a state of things which every man must sincerely deplore.—(Cheers.) Mr. :MACKINNON came forward to move the first resolution, but was subjected to annoyances and in terruptions of such a nature as rendered his remarks almost inaudible. He observed that underitakers (from whom the opposition appeared to emanate)!could not suffer by this Bill. It could not be supposefl that the Government could consent to tura underbla, and those who were already in the bus iness would no doubt continue to be employed. If there were nothingn else, he should support this measureivoentaoccthotert poor the present high charges, so oppress that they were often compell e d to keep t or a mouth d p h. (A'storme ead in their houses for three weeks . the speaker which lasted for of interruptio t n he h a er tt e em m p e some time, the Chairman and other attempts of gentlemen to obtain order being wholly ineffectual.) The Hon. Member at length was able to add that it was for the welfare of the community, the health of the great metropolis, and the happiness of the coun try, absolutely requisite that the system of extra mural interment should be adopted. The resolution he had to submit was this : s , That in the opinion of this meeting the present sys tem of burial in the metropolis is prejudicial to health, incompatible with decency and solemnity, demoralising i n its tendency, and unnecessarily expensive. After a few words from Mr. G. Tuomrsox, who successfully appealed to the meeting to hear the speaker who was to follow, Lord EBRINGTON, M.P., presented himself in sup port of the resolution. It had been calculated that in and around the metropolis about 52,000 persons died annually. What became of their bodies—where were the spaces provided to bury the dead out of sight ?—(A Voice—" Plenty of cemeteries.") Yes, but how was the poor man to convey his relations thither ?—(Cheers.) From a Parliamentary return of 1843 he found that there were of parochial churchyards about 170 acres ; of Protestant Dis senters, 20 acres ; of private or commercial bu rial grounds, 13 acres ; and about half an acre belonging to the Roman Catholics. Now, about 110 coresrees might be annually put away in an acre , and before the the ground was re-opened those corps es bad tbuursal to their parent dust. The average in t_ grounds had been about 19 1 , or nearly weredhoneussbenilea;nybuats 3,000 to an acre, and there w ere ten others in one, St. James', Clerkenwell , th ere up wards of 1,000 to the acre. T he effect was the wit n soil h t s h en at se i s t t a u n r d ne m d o b s l t ack, ditchy, a prejudicial to health. Was not thi s a disgrace to the countr y and revolting to the feel ings'T of a civilized man ? his was a task whi c h t h e ndgreals.y, offensive to th e Government had not u ndertaken as a chivalr ous cru sade against publi h c e o uninvited o rg . t a t n bargaining i y n suc any body ; but in compliance Principle with al most unanimous public feeling. T h ma tt e rs as the burial of the dead was most revolting, e a ily at a time when such ba rga i n i ng h a d o f speci ne cessity to be made; and he denied that, under parochial control, such arrangements as the Govern- ment proposed could satisfactorily be carried out. Let the details of the Bill be discussed as much as they pleased, but let them assert the principle of the Bill. Mr. NODES, who announced himself as an under taker, after considerable uproar was permitted to ad dress the meeting from the platform. He objected to the term " unnecessarily expensive" in the resolu tion, and denied that funerals as conducted by under takers were more expensive than was absolutely ne cessary. Let the cemetery companies consent to re ceive the bodies at any hour, and not confine the un dertakers to one particular time, and the charges would be considerably reduced. There was, be con tended, nothing in the Bill to guarantee that charges hereafter should not be as high as at present. He looked upon the p rocee di ngs as a "d ea d se t ag ai ns t his profession," intended to fatten those who were already fat enough. Mr. Box, another undertaker, moved an amend ment to expunge the objectionable words, insisting that the competition amongst the trade was too great to admit of exorbitant charges. The question was then put, and the resolution was carried by an immense majority, not above thirty hands appearing to be held up for the amendment. Mr. G. CRUICKSHANK was then announced to move the next resolution, and essayed to speak, but a dis turbance that had commenced amongst the crowd, which was swaying backward and forward at the rear of the meeting, prevented his proceeding. Suddenly a rush was made—the temporary barriers which sepa rated those who had tickets from the great mass were broken down, the reporters' table was upset, and their notes dispersed. All was immediately in the utmost confusion ; and though Lord R. Grosvenor manfully maintained his post, it was evident the pro ceedings could not go on. His Lordship at length in timated as much, and the meeting abruptly terminated. The disgrace attending a disturbance of this nature was greatly enhanced by the circumstance of a large number of ladies being present immediately in front of the platform, many of whom fainted, or suffered in some way or other from the rudeness of the mob. MAJORITY-NOES, 222. Abdy, Sir T. N. Fox, Richard M. O'Flaherty, Anthony Acland, Sir T. D. Freestun, Colonel Ord, W. Adair, B. Shaft° Glyn, George Carr PagetZLord A. Aglionby, 11. A. Grace, 0. D. Paget, Lord C, Alcock, Thomas Granger, T. C. Paget, Lord G. Anson, Colonel Greene, John Palmerston, Vie. Armstrong, Sir A. Greene, Thomas Parker, John Armstrong, R. B. Grenfell, C. I'. Patten, W. Bagshaw, John Grey, Sir G. Pelham, A. D. /seines, M. T. Grey, Ralph W. Pennant, Colonel Baring, Sir F. T. Grosvenor, Lord R. Pigott, Francis Barnard, E. G. Grosvenor, Earl Pilkington, James Barrington, Lord Guest, Sir John Plowden, W. H. Bass, Thomas Ilallyburton, Lord J. Plumptre, J. P. Berkeley, Admiral Hardcastle, J. A. Power, Dr. Berkeley, H. F. Harris, Richard Pusey, P. Berkeley, C. L. ItaStie, Alexander Raphael, 'Alexander Bernal, Ralph llastie, Archibald Rawdon, Colonel Birch, Sir ThomaS Batellell, John Reynolds, John lilackall, S. W. Hawes, B. Ricardo, Osman Bouverie, E. P. Ilayter, W. G. Rice, E. R. Boyd, John Headlam, T. E. Rich, Henry Boyle, Colonel Heald, James - I Robartes, T. J. Bramston, T. W. Heathcoat, John Roche, E. B. Brand, Thomas Heathcoat, G. J. Romilly, Colonel Bright, John Henry, Alexander Romtlly, Sir Joan Brocklehurst, John Heyworth, L. Rambold, C. K. Brockman, E. D. Hobhouso, Sir J. Russell, Lord J. Brotherton, J. Hobhouse, T. B. Russell, F. C. Brown, W. Hodges, T. 1,. Rutherfurd, A. Browne, R. D. ?lodges, T. T. Salwey, Colonel B u lkeley, Sir R. llollond, Robert Scrope, G. P. Burke, Sir Thomas Hope, Henry T. Scully,Francis Buxton, Sir E. Howard, Lord E. Seymour, Lord Carter, John B. Howard, C. W. Shaft°, R. D. Cavendish, C. C. Howard, E. G. Shell, R. L. Cavendish, G. 11. Howard, P. 11. Sheridan, R.B. Cavendish, W. G. Howard, Sir R. Smith, J. A. Cayley, Edward b. Hughes, W. B. Smith, John B. Chaplin, W. J., Hume, Joseph Somers, J. F. Childers, J. W. Hutchi ns, E. J. Somerville, Sir Vr• Sp Clay, Sir W. Hut t, William earman 11. J. J Clay, James Jerv is, Sir John Stanford. .F. C. Clifford, 11. M. Keogh, William Stansfield, W. R. Cockburn, A. J. Kershaw, James Stanartton, W. S. Stu, Lord D. Collins, William King, P. J. Colvile, C. R . Labouchere, Henry Ta lbot, C. R. Talbot, J. IL Corry, Henry Lascelles, W. S. Tancred, H. W. Cowan, Charles Lemon , Sir C. Tenison, E. K. Cowper, W. F. Lewis , George C; Thicknesse, Ralph Craig, Sir W. G. Lindsay, Colonel Thompson, Colonel Crowder, R. D. Littleton, E. It. Thornely, Thomas Davie, Sir Il Locke, Joseph Pawson, T. V. 31•Callagh, W. Townley, R. G. 9evereux, J. T. M'Gregor , John Townshend, Captain Mahon, O'Gorman Tufncil, Henry Div;4t, Edward Mangles. R. D. Turner :George Douglas', Sir C. Duff, James M a rtin, C. W. Tynte, Colonel Mas t e nnan, J. Villiers, Charles Duke, Sir J. Duncan, Georg e Matheson, J. Vivian, J. 11. Dun John Matheson, Colonel Walmsley, Sir J. Dundas, , Admiral Mende, Fox Watkins, Colonel Dundas, Sir David Mitchell, T. A. Willcox, Brodie Dunne, Colonel Moffatt, George Williams, John Ebrington , Viscount Monsell, William Willyams, H. Ellice, Edward Morgan, 11. K. Williamson, Sir H. Ellis, John Morris, David Wilson, James Elliot, John 3lostyn, E. Wilson, Matthew Mulgr a v e , Earl Wood, Sir Charles Evans, Sir De Lacy Muntz, G.Y.` Wood, W. P. Evans, William Mure, Colonel Wrightson, W.D. Fagan, W. Norreys, Lord Wyld, James Ferguson, Col. Norreys, Sir D. TELLEII S. I Foley, J .H. O'Brien, Sir Timothy Hill, Lord Marcos Fordyce, A. D. O'Connell, Maurice Bellew, kt . 31. r - - __ HER MAJESTY'S BIRTHDAY.—To - morrow (Wed- ! nesday) being the day appointed for the celebration of her Majes:y's birthday, the Government offices, and most of the public establishments, will as usual be closed for business purposes. With the exception of Christman day and Good Friday, this is the only day throughout the year which is observed as a general holiday at the Custom-house and Dock establishments in conscquence of the complete stoppage which is thereby necessarily caused to the import and ship- ! ping trade of the country. THE A RMY. We understand that Lieutenant-General Sir John Forster Fitzgerald, K.C.8., is to succeed Lieutenant • General Sackville Berkeley, us commander of the troops in the Windward and Leeward Islands of the West Indies. The inspection of the Household Troops will take place to-morrow morning, in the presence of his Grace the Commander in -Chief, at which his Royal Highness Prince Albert, Colonel of the Fusilier Guards, and his Royal Highness the Duke of Cam bridge, Colonel of the Coldstream Guards, are ex pected to be present. TROOPS FROM INDIA.—CHATHAM, MAY 13.—0 n Sunday afternoon, the 12th instant, the following de tachments of regiments serving in India arrived at the invalid depot, Fort Pitt, viz. :—Six sergeants, with Sergeant-Major Macdonald, and 38 privates of the Bth Foot ; 4 private', 64th ; 4 sergeants, and 26 privates, 78th Highlanders ; 3 privates, 83d, and 21 privates 86th, in charge of Captain H. Wellesley Pole Welman, 86th, with Lieutenant John Biggs of the Bth, and Assistant-Surgeon James Coghlan, 86th, who had medical charge of the troops. These de tachments came by the ship Emily, 700 tons burden, Captain Wilson, from Bombay, whence they embarked on the 25th January last, and arrived at Gravesend on the 12th, after a good passage of 106 days. During the voyage five men died. Six women and 18 chil dren came home with the invalids. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. PORTSMOUTH, MONDAY.—The Dauntless ste 4111- frigate, having had her machinery repaired since the accident which occurred on Friday, left the harbour this morning, at half-past nine o'clock, under the command of Captain Henderson, C. 8., of the Blen heim, to have her speed tried in Stokes bay. She was fully rigged and equipped, and having on board all her guns and stores, except provisions, she was brought to her intended draught of water, 16 feet fore and 16 feet 8 inches aft. The object of this trial was to determine the effect which had been produced by an additional length of 8 feet at the stern which she has lately received. Before this alteration (in August, 1848), she was tried at the same draught of water, and under steam alone her mean speed at the mea sured mile was 7.36 nautical miles. She was then tried under sail with steam also. On a wind her speed was 10.14 nautical miles, and with the wind aft the beam it was only 8.33. The mean speed of the engines with steam alone was 24 strokes per minute, and under sail they were 26. She made eight trials this morning under steam alone ; the average speed of the engines was 30 revolutions in a minute, and that of the ship was 10.266 nautical miles per hour. There was a fresh breese a-beam, and the state of the weather was very favourable. It appears, therefore, from this experi ment that the result of " the alteration is highly satis factory. Mr. Berthon's instrument for measuring the speed of the vessel was deranged, and so no trial could be made of it to determine its accuracy. Mr. Grant's cooking apparatus was in force, and cooked the dinner for the Blenheim's men on board the Dauntless. The pea-soup was excellent, and the seamen declared that they never had such good soup on board the Blenheim. The peas boiled in the distilled water were reduced to the most perfect pulp imaginable. The tea, we understand, that is made from this water is also much better (from the absence of all calcareous matter) than that made from the common water. _ _ _ The distilling was also more perfectly developed to-day. During the twelve hours that the galley was in operation there was no less than 420 gal lons of water distilled, quite sufficient for the crew aad stock consumption for one day ; a calcula tion of the fuel was also made, when it was found that 11b. of fuel made eight gallons of water. This is by far the most approved apparatus that Mr. Grant has had manufactured, and it may be said to be perfect. Rear-Admiral Berkeley, third Lord of the Admi ralty, and Captain Sir Baldwin Walker, surveyor of the navy, arrived at this port at S 30, A.M., to-day, and visited the ordinary and steam guard-ships. They went on board the Britannia, 120 ; the Neptune, 120 ; tho Ajax, 60 ; the Blenheim, 60 ; the Excellent, gunnery-ship, where trial practice with Captain Moor som's shell was going on ; and the Basilisk steam vessel; and after duly surveying them returned to the George Hotel. The Britannia, 120. in dock at this port, is to have her poop taken off, and a top. deck battery, similar to steamers, substituted. A draught of the Ist battalion of Royals, and Dr. Theingdon, Royal Canadian Corps, which embarked in the ship Earl Durham at Gravesend on the 2d of May, landed at Cowes this morning, and proceeded to Parkhurst-barrack!, that ship having sprung a leak. The embarkation of the draught of the Ist battalion, 97th Regiment, has been postponed . . PLYMOUTH, MAT 11.—Her Majesty s ship Hiber nia, 104. will be taken into dock on Monday. her Majesty's steam-vessel. Prometheus, on arrival from Woolwich, will be paid . wages, and take the June mails to the coast of Africa. Her Majesty's f r igate Thetis, 40, Captain H. J. Codrington, on arrival from Lisbon, will be paid off here. The Greenock steam-vessel, of Greenock, is ordered here to take Mr. Davey, master-attendant's assistant, and a party of seamen riggers, to Liverpool, to con duct the lazarette frigate Lavinia to Pembroke, and not to this port, as previously stated. The steamcir will return from Pembroke to Liverpool, and conduct the frigate Bacchus to Plymouth. The Royal Dockyard Battalion will commence drill on Saturday, the 18th inst. During the season of drilling, those men who do not drill will have their holiday on Saturday. The merchant brigantine Jessie, Captain C . old], 13. Lieutenant of Africa which left London fifty-seven days since, with a valuable cargo of teas, general goods, &c., for New foundland,N was on the 19th of April,. in long. 35 lat. 47 - W., struck by a heavy sea, which awefetddaewck4, broke bulwarks, stanchions, &c., and f h o o r l e d s , a theil and er mainsail. ew w er e obliged Having t o arrived here yesterday. APPOINTMENTS . Charles A. Prometheus steam pfiuvte back, a fe c e k t: a w a n a r d t r e water the in shiphe r steam sloop at Woolwich, for service Wise (recently promoted), to t . o lit t e h o u n e on the Mediterranean station. .._ _ to the Seagull, Midshipman H. L. Crozier,. to the Racer, 12, sloop, Master's Assistant James Gillard, 6, schooner, Brazil mailpacket theßirkenhead, 6, steam -frigate, at Portsmouth. n Captain Alexander 1 ne, one of the Lords of the Gunner John Archbold, packet. Admiralty, visited, Woolwich dockyard this afternoon. Commander I oote, who has commissioned the Pro metheus steam-sloop, and several of the officers ap pointed to her, arrived here to-day, and joined the v essel after taking up their commissions. The Lizard steam-vessel was taken to Sheerness on Saturday by the steamers that brought up the Crocodile. Two convicts were drowned yesterday afternoon. The accident occurred while raising a boat at the stern of the convict hulk stationed at the Royal Ar senal ; the tackling giving way,. three of the convicts were precipitated into the river, and two were drowned. FOREIGN YIN EGAR.—The Lords Commissioners of her Majesty's Treasury have directed Mr. Hayter, one of their secretaries, to state to the Commissioners of the Cus toms department that he has been commanded by their Lordships to authorise them to add foreign vinegar to the list of articles allowed to be shipped from the bonding ware houses in future as stores for vessels, as recommended by them ; and in transmitting a notification of this order to the collectors and comptroller a, and other oflicers,of the Customs at the several ports throughout the united kingdom for their information and government, they have been directed to ob serve, that the quantity of vinegar to be allowed to be ship ped is not to exceed half-a-pint per week for each person for the voyage out And home.