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(,1 !' i.enger f rom the Gann:ions brought up a number . 13 t r ,Ett. 1 1111 S, N 1101 ~% l Ek teverally read a first time. i t „ . ;011LE toRD presented a petition against tee open b 'l' Pllbil e . h.ll:tt'S On Suedays. t ord. c HAR BOURS OF REFUGE. tap ie OLCH ES •ER rose, pursuant to no! lee, to plea, an aldress to her Mej;.sty, praying that she may 1iq1,,,.1 to cider that a copy of the report of the t he sta s'l3n( Ts, appointed in April last to inquire into Ot i th state 4' the harbours in the British Channel, be laid 4iatt: table.,, As he understood that her Majesty's Mi -1Ni:I 'Lid not intend to offer any opposition to the minute' , be oul.l occupy their Lordships but . afew lai;", , ill stating his reasons for considering it L,,,j 3 ;; ; t 4 t that te,, paper should be laid bee.re their erite oi l P i , s • For one hundrcd miles of the southern ea it -"gland extending from Portsmouth, there was ot i i 114le harbour capable of affording shelter to ships, I , i4 le l' e r e ‘‘here a squadron could ride in Hemet). in °llt th e w a i r• Such a state karl been lung complained of; kor ril - ° ! :4 Y ate rept to remedy the deficiency was by the tak o Noll of the Breakwater at Plymouth. On the re rOtle).4,d, a ti °o of a Committee of the House last session, the ll to the beers veer° appointed to inquire and examine ilte xt ue best positions fur the construction of adequate te 'ott Ps ( . 4 refugie and their labours concluded with the 4C. *bleb was the subject of his present notice. He ,44.°111Y add, that he concurred in the opinion of the li ltir- 1844 "tlers, a s exp et ki re P?rt..... ressed in the last paragraph of p c , , tbat in a ma; to of such great national and 441k,ei'141 iM p o rtancepecuniary considerations ought 4terfere.—The motion was agreed to. t j.o r d n„,, LAW OF DIVORCE. rlllble-IIiYUGHAm presented a . petition frc.m areof ,,,Prtt„ 1 , 14 'no named Stephen Pierce, complaining T he " t law of divorce. t r e X L .,, h ill 't) 1 r,; ° 4 ---• LORD put off the presentation o f hi s ~ -' ir.e.°a 4n g the Privy Council jurisdiction in cases qinhlestill next Thursday (this day week). L 'e lt ( p ) „C; 1 3 M MON LAW PROCESS BILL— Ioi -m tl R A . I."P SESSION (SCOTLAND) BILL. ft 41 :t Z-(;',,,111EL1, L mo•sed the order of . the day for in 4 111 e `' (llll lnittee on these two Bills. He said - : 11 , 14 . 4 1 !'"has save troMble if he a ere to e1t.a",, 41 1i111 4 , t he amendment he wished to propose to kaa:eiti l o,,ome difficulty. might urise respecting the 11).1;P aZen the service of the process . ought to be 1 '417 °4 4 . ' 4 5t persons might serve their own . turns k w lily 41 nteigner to swear that the service had Provi d . t ° ol,e tt d properly effected.—( . Hear, hear. ollie d ,l 4 l . t j gt a this, he should introduce a clause t 1 0 ' l ' b e " I t the service of a process abroad i,4l' 4 tot. m a de either by a British subject al: be eat.Y public.—(Hear, hear.) Before he sat 1 14 tilia . - qed to allude to a pint connected with the O l t di e elk Noble milt who was not present - e 4terof 141-41ke of It —on, who was the hereditary 1 41 If e air l Y rood House—was extremely anxious to f ylte e ,tbe rights and maintain all the privileges o 111 4 1 4 e NC ° w hich he belonged.—(Hear, hear.) The l ltt . ti el 'otti t has apprehensive that this Bill would Iti tD. qil e In the liberties of that house, but he bel . ieve . d ql'itte t 7 r d on the Woolsack would confirm him in t h .o e t lot ep pt that it was impossible that they could at Idlitnt; it e d,,,ovith by that enactment. ik' t b',„Nle,,,,',"'llAbl. said the amendment of the Noble '40 4 te - i 'rullY removed, in a great degree, his . ob- Vtia m - i ue first measure. ' The notaries public of 'i`lerMany were mn of high respectability, 4 4 caPonsibie offices which were recognised !4i t tl 'etil l t .' a nd Governments of the two countries. 4, liati t4 , " 41 . 1 Fes of the case might be quite evident, kw leotth i Y might be quite clear, and yet: the . eo -- 4 I nlght not be of the smallest use in the ti n t p . 6 4 ,7 1 eg t i,...a Writ of error. The judgment, no h .eti);"1 knowledge of these facts, would stand. The k . tlk tor 4l° tarY public in France would b e perfectly IklN 4 1 ' th °ugh in other countries it might . trot be OI.P cha t night it would be better to specify in this , I%leitaCtileo.out!tries the service was to be by a notary '!`llii,,,eott'ej,,2e in which it should be by a British subject. N I Nit h , - ..., Where the service was to be by a . British • ktori." i ght Come through the instrumentality of a ~'ll l l , l ll l.io l s. ,In the islands of Corfu and Zante it was llah t Zenend on the notaries public, and he at, be p r oper plan could be adopted f than to let the t ettZ tl tltt r .;: e d by the affidavit o a British subject. 11 4 i li t t () . ' l le amendment might be introduced in '41, 11111.11: : C HANCELLOR said that he thought it 4 4 14 41 " to see the operation of the Bill in the )' n lil „ e 9 s ourt of Equity. 44 1 lie 1 oZ z _tilFeLL aelled - if his Noble and Learned i %}..n/F,alree a day ? 1 11 ( :, Th`: Lai A NCELLOR said the first clay after i l k;eta' n ; t ' be thought, would be a sufficient time " , I ; n R the operation e of this Bill in the Courts 1. 1,4;44" he wished for this time, for he did not t ki,l i tta t te,ln the dark. 4iii,, QU RTON said that he was sorry to say that ,lit let:" ;"tish subject was not a sufficient guarantee r eSfe c 'd faith ; and that, therefore, the b Vdi, re uel, when the notaries public were d not to Si to,l2Pnn i that the notice should be serve ß b i y s !lVeetr't under the supervision of the rti h ill 1 .04 41 t itl that ccuntry. '. Ne . o v., C HANCELLOR then put the motion, and . I tl tit -4 ,1e I,`"t iato Committee, pro forma, on the Com I, q) niprOcess Bill, the Common Law Process ad) l ie , l ' and the Court of Session (Soct a N km , 1 . Of e : 1 1 „i i ,, ....,,r.5... reported progress, and 4 11 eNi t e to sit again on the first day after Easter. 1/ A lll . ll p S r , C LAUSES CONS ")LIDATION BILL, lIii`kgr,,`MIIPANIES CLAUSES CONSOLI iIII 't ai,,43C0 FLAND) BILL. k kh *e te , 4 `t'u of the Duke of BUCCLEUCH these ' 441 4 first time, and were ordered to b t l l4 %h,,, ' ''lt A l 4 ll 4 o , -,4 43LEs (SCOTLAND) BILL. 01 )11. 1 W ent into Committee on the Constables tit t he I ,aa h - kqoti d N 41 of the Earl of DALHOUSIE, words It tpLeteZo to enable a constable to act in any other k n lctot t , 4 l, Its well as in the . district . to which he It le ti t it it i W ent ` 4 ; 'ill ' b ut under the direction of the sheriff. _ p,,, through Committee with this amend - 1 4 4.1t1,, Of SHAFTESBURY repir.ed progress, and 1444t0 Sit again. hi Ps then adjourned. ay g ll O ci s „---- Awe aYtl -4 tej ; OF COMMONS, March k 6 . lOt!„ . erit am t i°ok the Chair at Twelve o cloc , and imme ; Ott; wAy 8 the House went into Committee on the r 4 -4 20 CL AUSES CONSOLIDATION BILL. 1 . 4 140 / 4e i lagpu N t l e oe7o: l , - 4 4 ,SET t' said he understood the Hon. Mem -INe., N eil etd to amend or substitute another clause \ta l :ad n eat just been put. The Hon. Gentleman, lting 4, 1 . welrlet bad an opportunity of . some consulting tion on the , k tl eta, l44l it e w in a position to give him expedient msftorm l t Il t a ll t, t4 a e ll N' ' le; I4ote d r a therefore, 'll'aufuhtturmeeclay. that tAi t I t l l o l' sa r a Prpone t d t t i ain a e _ d great objection to the t: 4 4 N th atoOd. e .I', n o d er oubt the same claus b e e h r a e d m b: m en_ fol . - mer Bills ;. but c ii 1,!4 ~ obieetion to it was it considerably mu de libhai"it w ilti lwaY projects were few and far between. l 'h eti.oottireta allowed to remain in its present form, LitiVopert'any would have power to do what they ) to, '•,,,.tati, - ,„*lth an e s t a t e , and deprive the prc?periaer ;' 7 1 1144 d titre with his right of owners . hip.---( s f: ou ; k s ! km toast admit, if they struck this cl _t_i Y4/401.C, Ttubstituted none other for it, great t di a ffi e c g ulties iS t 4 io , eek7eY would haVe one Committee taking one 't 4, qa tatiithre°;(l another restoring the clause n its pre cesnithe hard 3-4iPkie`ii)rmoian,d fris,eincnionagulnei He thought, i o - mt -.4, 11/ "Al clause leu ought to be introduced, re A cunt , modified than that which the p 7 ' , .. A1 1e t11144 4‘. ' lle d• The next difficulty that had 14 1k,0 to him was, that the Bill had been before 4 il tlik _ liZik,olll.l,p_ time, and all the railway cl *l t 0r,,t0 h t q anee with its provisons.. I 1 however, the 4 N', I°, modified as to meet his views, the pro- L , 1 4 - ft a ,"Y, 4 )? schemes would be put to the expense I,, kil 4 % ipS.til, e -rv ing an immense number of additional l or, ? • 41 a e - ‘ 4 , t wilY could not the engineer state in Com o _ tt tp l tit:. ‘` bii - e.' ar d he would require for the purposes f 7 ‘ t be ' e ra to do this, the difficulty would begot , 11 j, k (kli Vila pass respect to ) He was . 11' With . future tailways, they might th. t4 e4 4 ; ./ 'Ni g a special clause,—(Hear, hear 0, t tO 3 tN i .ed to his Noble Friend for the . course he had 4 ,,t1;1 4, . • w c : l n i t: this clause and he trusted on a futu_re . V . 011i, 44 , be able, in and way or other, toremedy ltil!iinn ~,,,, he mast. confess, from what he had heard, ti‘0,k....1,-ggerated but on the contrary, he thought , At. t , ti 'Crralt t,, , , tt •, 14 ~1- e pr understated. 1 1 6 , 1 4 't, A this ~ "eelYed that the House should . look at this kN i oteZlti,.. 4 , l % There were now 240 Bills for railways l y i.., ti„, - ; 4 it run the risk of now making . a mass of . litjpita;, Which might involve very serious qu . es ' 1 4tl " i lls L P r oPerty, merely for the sake of passing. 0400 Slia ? li o ihette t ,i'lle tßi , 014 tent tu t f hoped that Hon. Members would t I NI Ilti. be call or the consideration of this clause before tjklttlNliled4o hesttt upon to pass it. For his own part, he 41 1 ot kenh.,N. aevertion in saying that the clause as it now 0 'l4 thi ,g I I - t satisfaction to the landowners in this i ° l4lr , e 4 ltlo t e r ,,T )s e i n—that it, in . fact,. meant nothing more 1 11 li, 1 14 t oy k n . otute total annihilation of every estate 4 -- te It t ° kr, the benefit of a few speculators. He 1 17 al ' hnq '''' from the Noble Lord Lord G. omerse . t) 11,441 1 t,f_nt; ,.. :0 tilt:4A4t:otei713idusered this clause with a view to its I, Ili )t i llitt, f- '41•13N' tk 4, ea i i .•. -- The great difficulty • . t, at t of this sort was, that sufficient time ~,d; „ ,,er di 3 4 , h t til t ::::::Z i.f. " full consideration of such a clause iNtltiraNi t . eussion. In the present instance, how could be removed, by postponing the ;,14Vttel) t he e - r ecess • and that interval could he em -1 tl l l at tli lloss -r4 l'lleer in endeavouring to ascertain, as :t t l ile lln: it het s , d e " the quantity of land he would require to 1 0 4440 li'sg-i• Another point to which he wished to I,,att,•totkitcti'onme absolute necessity there appeared to yi 14 1 1 I_ 4l t teln ov - r°lt ate general clause upon this subject, Lo ti , o Pt e t ,'e difficulty tl at Committees had t? en- Ft, „l lit ,S O -tr i ` ee latble in each ' separate Biil. The Noble 1 11 1 ‘ i l . to i i i, ~, t , , n re ci eta had certainly devoted much atten -410111hS'NIC:(k i lear,r. f°r ) u the house should feel much N ts ` lift 14 a - " - 'AN b hoped that this would form one of I,tht4titils; fortoosolidation Bill, instead of being left to a 1 tY 0 ,,t11:„ 1.4 ) tt, tar i ts Present shape it was a source of the .P,tt'All 'tilt '''r lare'ow • in the country. Indeed,. r r i! t i l * l i l lO o f kaliing. N ' v ' hat ne w l ?uld their ancestars say., it ti, eat chi ti , P trom their waves and . heirs tlie l t4 e k., t lup oil ue estates they had left their Y % 114 „ and cut up by these railway companies ? i k ; th th. r, f „,„ t'Vet 4 . 14 0, "11 Colonel Sibthorp.) lie had given clti th it no,,,'etst co nsideration ; but he felt bound to I,,,''V. 'ti '" 'Aced lie thought i 't would be by no means h.tri,,eo,,, he s t ,„„._ B _, 1 , 11 4 I ' ‘ ! . k i -V. " °I '''.6F-, soon ~f . the Noble Lord apposite, to 5het115.44" S';`,`,J3lt /Z,,,i,ation from 1,000 to 300 yards— th, _ 41tir,..-`9r.. I --- Fro Ts t , . eaeL A ,„ 111 1,000 to 500. l'ote'qe,, '. O ren,„ . " , -)----W eh, ev en to 500, was one that kSi l 'ai l l u t ß, ht C o 'J o ! causes of - complaint ; but he thought Lti1.. 4 4,„,,n th e ,„ _;lsider what was the smallest possibie . tNa7l4)'..,,tist4,Bo?uld reduce the power of the engineer geb,.!lt, et kli e4r i _ . ' , With the facilities necessary for making \C ti.VA.. tl4 44a W ! t n ti;; Lel e t r r l .) For, after all, what was it but a '4 ',I I vid B 1 gineer and the owner of the land for _ 1,41 1 tar \ 4 e et. eel.. nks ') a t ,„. a certain quantity of clay or gravel% t, e y'Attteisibi e l6alla i he would say, limit the engineer c ) „ i f t , . .1' q i , even to one hundred yards.—(Hear.) ;le 4 4 j th e ii not quite coueur with the lion. Baronet's ci ttd y ar tse. were to reduce the limit of deviation ' 14 Would, iv. his opinion, put a stop to 4 railways altogether. What he wished to have done was, that the engineer should have sufficient time to ascertain as closely as he could what quantity of land he would actually require. Mr. ENTWISLE had no doubt but that this discussion would hsve the effect of nicking engineers more careful and exact in future. Lord G. SOMERSET had no doubt, but that by Tuesday next, or whatever day the Committee should adjourn to. this clause would be so tressed as to meet the wishes of all parties.—(Hear. ) Mr. HA\VES said, that any course which might be taken must be attended with sonic inconvenience if there were not such a clause as that which was contained in this bill. He was sorry, therefin . e, that the Noble Lord and the Honourable. Gentleman opposite had consented to the postponement of this clause, and he thought they were taking a conside rable responsibility respecting it. He had taken the liberty, when last in Committee, of stating his views respecting the difficulty which was likely to arise from the opera tion of a clause of this kind.—(Hear, hear.) Ile had done this in answering the objection of the Hon. Mem ber fur Newcastle, and he apprehended that the diffi culty would be greater from not adopting a clause of this cha racter, than if they did adopt it. The power at present pos. ses,ed was altogether insufficient for the right direction of engineers. Now he believed that it was impossible for en gineers to ascertain beforehand precisely what they would re quire, and there ought, therefore, to be some latitude given to them. They could not always ascertain what land they would require —and, indeed, the opportunity of making the requisite observation was sometimes denied to them The Hon. Member for Lincoln had made an observation, to the effect that if he had seen a surveyor setting a flagstaff on his land to ascertain what land, and which land, was required for a railway which would pass through his estate, he would resort to a very unpleasant argument to induce him to desist. Col. SIBTHORP—The argumenttzm ad baculuin. Mr. HAWES—Precisely ; and he thought that ibis was a very likely mode of preventing an engineer from obtaining that accurate information which Hon. Gentlemen opposite seemed to require. There were other cases, to which lie need not refer, but they had occurred only last year, and were sufficiently notorious. They should also remember that the Committees were called upon to report specially to the House; that the power delegated would be specially applied to every private Bill in Committee, in which the main ques tion ought to be what course a railway should take. Now the power given by this clause was a definite power, and he thought it was better to know what powers were given, if they gave any powers at all. There was no question but that gentlemen who represented the landed interest were anxious to avoid the inconvenience to which they were sub jected by making a railway. Members of the landed interest, it was true, were greatly inconvenienced by the making of railways in many cases. Many other classes were put to in convenience, but it was the landed interest who in the first instance felt this inconvenience, and he must say that he thought that, as a class, and it was much to their honour, they had readily conceded their property in most cases for the public benefit. They did, it was true, derive advantage from the making of a railway, in common with all the country, but they were the first to suffer the disadvantage of its con struction and the last to enjoy the benefit when it was com pleted; and he was, therefore, anxious that their interests should be secured as far as it was possible to secure them. If the clause which they weodiscussing was omitted the whole power granting land fur deviatiou would be left to the Committee, and the whole of the power of the House would be delegated to such Committee. lion. Gentlemen should recollect that the Committee would exercise its functions judicially, and, aa that was the case, it was, in his (Mr. Hawes's)opinion, better to know what power they were about to give. Mr. TATTON EGERTON said that the Honourable Member (Mr. Hawes) had professed to be anxious to secure the interests of the land proprietors, but he (Mr. T. Egerton) conceived that the course the Hon. Member wished to be adopted was only likely to affect the interests of the large landed proprietors. Now, they were well able to defend their own rights. If they felt a grievance they could come before the Committee and state it. but it was the small landed proprietor whose interest ought to be cared for. If a small freeholder were injured, as by such a deviation which was required by this clause he was very likely, nay almost sure to be, he had no power of bearing the ex pense of bringing his witnesses to London, and proving his injury before the Committee. He (Mr. T. Egerton) therefore thought that the latitude given by this clause was excessive, and ought to be abridged. He thought that the engineers were able to ascertain with more precision than they were accustomed to do, what land they would require, and not take as they seemed inclined to take, one, two, or three miles for their spoil earth. One Hon. Member said that it was utterly impossible for an engineer to tell until he arrived at any particular portion of the line where his bricks for tunnels,:or stone for his bridges, was to be obtained. There might be something in that, but still he thought that it was no justification for giving such extensive powers, and that when a deviation was permitted, notice ought to be given to the small landed proprietors, whose in terest would be effected. Mr. R. PALMER said he thought that a clause of this nature ought to be inserted, but he did not think tha Ithis was sufficiently precise. They could not tell whether it was a thousand yards or only 250 yards that would be required, and he thought that the engineer ought to say what extent he would require. He did not speak from interested motives, for the railway by which his property was affected was finished. In many cases what was called a temporary occupation was, in fact, and in reality, converted into a permanent one. That was the case with regard to a cutting two miles in length, which the Great Western Railway Company made through his property, near Reading. Availing themselves of this power of temporary occupation, they cut through some very excellent land, and left the earth, which spoiled about thirty six acres, besides leaving a miserable eye-sore, and although he took legal advice, and was told that he could bring an action to compel its removal, yet, as lie believed, it would be impossible to remove it, he did not think there would be much use hi bringing an action. He stated these facts to show that a temporary occupation was sometimes equal to a permanent one, and he advised the Committee to be cautious in giving such an ex tensive power.—(Hear, hear.) Colonel SIBTHORP said that what be complained of was that surveys were made during the night—in fact, that the engineers came to poach.—(Laughter.) He heard the manly, good old English speech of the Hon. Member for Berks with great pleasure, and he thought they should pause before they gave such unheard of power to railway companies. He begged to tell the Hon. Member for Lambeth that he had given land for roads. and would do so again, but he thought the least that siseald be done was to ask him. He did not like to have Lis property seized per fas et nefas. He was sure that if some of his ancestors were to rise from their graves—though he had no wish in the world to see them— (Laughter)—they would be very much surprised at such power, and would strongly object to these proceedings. Sir D. NORREYS thought that notice should be given to those persons through whose property the road was to be made, that they were about to take the land.—(Hear.) He considered that the giving of 250 yards, in addition to 100, which would be about a fifth of a mile on each side of the road, was a monstrous power. Lord G. SOMERSET said that the Hon. Member had re ferred to clauses which had not yet come under discussion. He would suggest that it would be better to urge objections when the clauses were before the Committee. Mr. lIAYTER said, that if they intended to limit the power which the railway companies now had, they ought to show some strong reason for so doing. The clause referred to was not idly introduced, hut was introduced in the model Bill after mature deliberation. It was impossible for engineers to define exactly the space which they might require. Mr. WODEHOUSE said that he was precisely in this situation. A railway company had agreed to give a noble relative of his 20,000/., as a compensation for any loss that he or the tenants might sustain. That was a large sum ap parently, but his noble relative did not receive one sixpence of it, for it was applied to a settled estate. It might be a fair and just compensation, or it might be the worst bargain that could possibly be made. If those railway schemes went to decay, who was to maintain the poor on the estate? It was this latter consideration alone that induced him to ask the Noble Lord (Lord G. Somerset)—who con ducted the business before them in a manner which every person must admire—( Hear, hear,)—to postpone this clause. Not only with regard to that part of the country with which he was connected, be with regard to every other part of it, he thought that the course to be adopted should be clearly and explicitly declared. Clause 20 was then postponed, and all the subsequent clauses up to 32. On clause 32, relating to the crossing of roads, being pro posed, Mr. AGLIONBY said he hoped the Noble Lord would con. sent to insert the word " highways" in this clause instead of " carriage roads." Lord G. SOMERSET intimated that he could not agree to the amendment proposed. Mr. AGLIONBY expressed his surprise at such opposition on the part of the Noble Lord, when a majority of the Corn mittee had the other day decided in favour of a similar pro posal. Though the clause was not the same, the principle was ; it was that of extending a just protection to the public in the cases to which the clause referred. He knew the Noble Lord had said that the erect would be in all cases to prevent railways from making roads on a level ; but that was a mistake : such power was reserved to the Committee sitting on a special Act, to say whether, in particular cases, roads should be made on a level, or whether the public safety could be se cured without such a provision.—(Hear, hear.) There were many footpaths by which children were accustomed to go to the sea-shore, or other places for amusement ; and where a level road was made for their accommodation, he was told that in many cases not even a policeman was placed there to protect the public. He had consulted the agent of one of the largest railways, and also one of the ablest engineers in the country, both of whom told him they had for years felt that the public were not sufficiently protected. He had asked them whether the necessity of having bridges or conduits would at all interfere with the progress of the railway business ; the reply was, that it would not interfere with it in the east. The public were often driven to use a ladder in ascending and descending when they crossed a railway. He maintained that they ought not to be put to such an inconvenience. If he did not succeed in inserting the word " highways" gene rally, he should propose to insert in clause 44 these words : " The Company shall make convenient ascents and descents, or bridges, or bridges over, or culverts under, the railway, where necessary for the convenience of the public." Another clause which had been suggested to him was :—" And in those cases where bridges either under or over can be conveniently made and are reasonably required, the company shall, on the requisition of two justices of the peace, construct such bridges in lien of such ascending and descending approaches." The Hon. Member concluded by proposing to substitute "high ways" instead of " carriage roads." Sir. R. PALMER agreed with the Hon. Gentleman on this subject. The case of bridle roads was one well deserving consideration. He should suggest a reference to justices in the case of footways. Mr. T. EGERTOv supported the amendment. Mr. HAWES thought it advisable to make the public Acts as definite as possible, and to leave to the Committees on pri vate Bills as little latitude as possible.—(Hear.) Mr. DARBY thought that the preservation of the foot paths was of the greatest importance. If there was not some thing dune to compel the companies to make proper ways in stead of the paths which they intercepted or destroyed, might they not carry their road across a path, and then make steps in the cuttings on both sides, and leave it to those who used the footpath to find their way as they could across the rails, even when the train was coming ?—(ilear.) Mr. HENLEY approved of the proposition of the Hon. Member for Cockermouth. It v, ould he a most valuable im provement to bring every footway before the Committee, as well as every carriage-way, as those who used the footways were least able to take care of theniselves.—( Hear.) Mr. W. PATTEN thought the aiiiendment would do no good unless the suggestion of his Hon. Friend the Member for Berkshire (Mr. R. Palmer) were adopted. It would be best to leave it to persons on the spot to say whether the footpaths and bridle ways should be crossed or not. Mr. AGLIONBY said, that in proposing that the inquiry respecting footways should take place in the Committee, he had no wish to occasion expense to the companies; but he would not save the expense of the companies at the expense of the public.—(Hear.) Lord G. SOMERSET thought that the amendment would lay down a principle which the Committee would find very difficult to earry out.—( Hear, hear.) However, as the sense of Hon. Members seemed so strougy in its favour, he would not oppose it. But he would propose either as a new clause, or as an addition to this, a provision such as was suggested by the lion. Member for Berkshire. That clause could not be drawn up in a minute, and he would take time until fly; bringing up of the report to prepare it. At present he would not oppose the i.sertion of the words in the Hon. Member's (Mr. Aglionby's) amendment. Mr. JAMES said, tLere could be no question whatever that the rights of foot-passengers were equally as important as those of persons who could afford to keep carriages He therefore congratulated the Hon. Member for Cockermouth upon the course which he had pursued. Mr. LAWS( N wished to express his opinion in favour of the amendment. Foot. passengers had just as much right to protection as any other class of passengers. He had seen on the London and Birmingham Railway great inconvenience arise from the want of sufficient accommodation for foot-pas. sengers. At Harrow they had to go down steps on Ihe one side, and ascend on the other, and this he thought was extremely injurious to the public safety. He would refer these matters, in the first instance, to two justices on the spot, and then let them be referred, as other cases were, to quarter sessions. At the same time, he wished to give every facility to railways. He was not one of those who wished to offer any vexatious impediments to these great projects, but still he must say the suggestion of the lion. Member for Cocker mouth met with his entire approbation. Mr. AGLIONBY said, he wished to insert a clause affect ing all cases, leaving it to an equitable tribunal to say whe ther the necessities of the public required any sacrifices to be made on the part of the railway. - Lord G. SOMERSET said he would consider what other alterations would be required, and then frame a special clause to meet them as well as the views of the Hon. Member oppo • site. This special clause he should submit to the Board of Trade, and if it were approved of by them he would propose it either in the Committee, or on the bringing-up of the report. Colonel SIBTHORP o*!cted to the paragraph in the clause whch imposed a penalty of 40s. upon officers who ne glected to close those gates which were entrusted to them, because he thought it was not sufficiently heavy. This was the course adopted by the House, some few years ago, in the case of what are called " public conveniences," but what he thought were " public nuisances." He meant omnibuses. — (Laughter.) More impudent fellows than those who drove these vehicles could hardly be met with, and when the penalty imposed upon them was only 405., the evil was never abated. When, however, imprisonment was substituted for fine, ac cidents through the negligence of those fellows became less frequent; and he should like to see the same principle ap plied in the case of railways. Mr. AGLIONBY said another paragraph in this clause went in direct violation of his views. The,part to which he alluded made it compulsory for railway companies to build stiles, but said nothing about gates, or men to mind them. Now he wished to establish this principle—that the foot passenger should be protected in the same way as the car riage passenger—namely, by putting up gates; and where it was thought necessary, placing officers to mind them. He was not now arguing in favour of any point by which he could benefit himself; his sole object was that the public should have a right to have gates at all places where there weree footpaths, and men at those gates when necessary. Now, he would ask the Noble Lord, were there not hundreds of cases where human life was endangered by the absence of these precautions?—(Hear, hear.) He had heard of attempts that had been made by certain landowners to stop up these footpaths altogether, they had become such nuisances ; and he quite agreed that many of them were ; but though they were such, yet many of them were necessary for the use of the public, and therefore should ba a:tended to. Now he would ask, was there to be no gate or other protection at both ends of a foet way, which might pass through 'a populous town, and be crossed by railway? On such footways, men and women and children were continually passing, and it was no use to say that the publication of the starting and arriving times of the trains was sufficient warning. Therefore, he would say, have a general clause requiring the erection of gates in all cases, and officers where necessary, and then leave to the local justices the detail. He begged to move the insertion of the words " highways" for "carriage-ways." Mr. D4.118Y doubted very much it even that would have the desired Tact, for he could not see what use a gate would be without a man to mind it. Lord G. SOMERSET conceived that if the Hon. Member's suggestion should be agreed to, it would have the effect of annihilating railways altogether; at least, if a line of any length was to be made, it would be rendered almost useless if it were to be crossed by four or five hundred gates, and men at each, all to be kept up at the expense of the company. He would ask would not a stile be sufficient? Mr. AGLIONBY— How was a horse to cross a style ? Lord G. SOMERSET —Where there were bridle roads horses could cross ; but foot paths were not necessary in .hose cases. Mr. AGLIONBY—The Bill contained no proiision for stiles. Lord G. SOMERSET could assure the Hon. Member that if his amendment were inserted, it would be found to be so mischievous; that it would be rendered nugatory by the number of exceptions that would be intro duced. He conceived that, giving the power proposed by the Hon. Member to local justices, more real harm than good t vi h -o e ulil io b n e a d e on w e ou th ld e p n u o b t li a c g . On thehisashpolreophoesitti,dn, h a o l p ld that should divide upon it he w ould resist it, for he conceived it would be an ill - advised course to adopt. agree if Mr. AGLIONBY thought it would be better for the House to admit that it wa s ill-advised, than that it had been i ncon sistent. If stiles were to be made, he would ask why not gates also ? And surely, if local justices were to be deemed competent to decide as to where bridges were and were not necessary, they were equally competent to form a judgment as to the necessity for a gate?—(Hear.) Clause 49 had been alluded to as meeting this case, and on referring to it he found it provided only for the pr otection of the owners of land, and he had no doubt they would take care of them selves—(Hear, hear)--but were the public to have no pro tection ?—(Hear, hear.) On the whole, he was so strongly impressed with the justice and fairness of his proposition, that he would divide the House upon it, for he conceived he would stultify himself by not doing so. Mr. C.kRDW ELL said that it was not the 49th clause to which his Noble Friend referred, but to the 43d and the 44th clauses. The clauses were perfectly distinct, and it was not at all necessary, because one clause was passed that the other should be passed also, and he did not hesitate to say that if the words were inserted which the Honourable Member for Cockermouth wanted, they would have the effect of preventing the Committee from making any alteration whatever. The parties who were to be protected were not the railway parties, but the public. It was not reasonable, in securing the interests of the public, that they should require that 300 or 400 gates, and 300 or 400 gatekeepers should be appointed, when, perhaps, their services would not be required oftener than once or twice in the twenty-four hours. Doing so would be highly expensive to the company, while there would be no adequate benefit to the public, and he, therefore, h. ped that the House would negative the proposi tion of the Hon. Member for Cockermouth. Mr. lIAYTER said that he quite agreed that if these words were inserted, the Committee would be deprived of the power of making any alteration. He believed that railways were of great advantage to the public, and lie should, therefore, protest against the insinuations which had been thrown out against those Members who came down there to render assistance in maturing these projects. Gentlemen connected with the landed interest conceived that all these projects were detrimental to them, and they entertained a jealousy of all those who supported these projects, and that their object was some private end, and not the public good.—(" No,' from the Ministerial side.) He did not feel that he was actuated by any private end, and he should,. therefore, persevere in his course. His object was to do justice, and that should be done to both parties.—(" No doubt of it," from the Ministerial side of the House.) What was the case? If these gates were erected, two gatekeepers would be required for every single footpath, and thus the company would incur an expense of 1001., a year for every one of them, and if there were 300 or 400 the expense would be 6001. a year for all these footpaths. [The Hon. Gentleman was corrected by a Member opposite, who stated the expense would not be 600/., but 60,0001. a-year.l AL any rate, it would be enormous. In the case of bridle-paths, he ad mitted that some regulation was necessary, and a clause might be introduced for erecting a proper tribunal for direct ing the placing of gates ; but in the case of footpaths on level ground, he thought they were unnecessary. Mr. RICE said that the 49th clause applied to this case, and he hoped, therefore, the Honourable Member would not press his opposition. Mr. WOOEHOUSE protested against the supposition that the landed interest entertained any jealousy of those who supported railways, or of railways themselves. He had lived, during the construction of the Norwich and Yarmouth Rail way, very near to it, and he had never sustained the slightest inconvenience from it, and such had been the case with a Noble Friend in his neighbourhood. In the case of a special train, the adoption of the suggestion of the Hon. Member would cause great inconvenience. In one instance, a phy sician's attendance was requited at Yai mouth ; a special train was taken, and, in consequence of there being no im pediment, he performed the distance between Norwich and Yarmouth in a quarter of an hour, which would otherwise have taken him nearly two hours. With respect to the jea lousy supposed to be entertained by landowners of railway projects, he would beg to assure the Hon. Member for Wells that be never was more thoroughly mistaken than in that supposition. Mr. TATTON EGERTON thought, in the cases of public roads and highways, these gates were necessary, but that in the cases of footpaths it would be a needless expense and trouble to the companies. Mr. ENTWISLE said that the object of this Bill was to consolidate the regulations so as to curtail the proceedings in Committees ow Private Bills. In his opinion, the Hon. Member for Cockermouth would find that the exceptions to the rule which be sought to establish, would be so numerous as to increase the business before Private Committees rather than decrease it, and he, therefore, conceived that the adop tion of the words proposed would be the very means of de feating the Hon. Member's own object, and he therefore trusted that he would withdraw his opposition. If the ex pense were increased to the companies, the public in the end would have to pay it. Colonel SIBTHORP hoped that the Hon. Member for Cockermouth would divide the House at once. They talked of the expense of railways ; he thought that ought to occupy little consideration. He entertained great jealousy of all these schemes, and he hoped the Hon. Member for Cocker mouth would persist in his opposition, and bring this clause to a test. Dr. BOWRING said that the excepted cases were many. He did not think that in more than one case out of twenty would it be necessary to have a gate and a person to watch it. They ought rather to legislate for the nineteen cases than the one case. Mr. GRIMSDITCH wanted to know by what words the Hon. Member opposite (Mr. Aglionby) would get rid of the objection that had been urged against the amendment. Mr. AGLIONBY said that there was an entire misconcep tion of his argument and amendment. He did not mean to put an end to all great railway scbemes. The words which he would 'introduce into the clause were. first, the words " highways," and then, " except where otherwise provided by the special Act." He thought that their first object ought to be the public safety, and that expense ought to be a secondary object. lie considered he was more correct in requiring that the public should be protected where protection was necessary than the Hon. Gentleman near him (Dr. Bowring), who said that they ought not to legislate for one case because there were nineteen cases which did not require legislation. Lord G. SOMERSET thought that the tenour of the Hon. Gentleman's speech was to afford protection, but that the tenour of his clause would not have that effect. He conceived that the public would have less protection under the words which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman sought to introduce than under the clause as it stood. What he would propose would be this, that whenever a public road, in a populous district, interfered with the rail ways going upon a level, a special clause should be intro duced to provide for that. Mr. AGLIONBY thought that would do. Mr. DARBY said that if the Honourable Gentleman meant by his amendment to give th4k Committee the -power of allowing public roads to be crossed, without the railway company being compelled to put up gates, and to keep persons to watch them, he would do well to persevere.—(Hear, hear.) But if that were not his object THE STTN, LONDON, FRIDAY MORNING, MARCH 7, 1845. he would advise him to withdraw the amendment, and pro pose it in a subsequent part of the Bill. Mr. AGLIONBY said he had not intended to impute in consistency in a personal manner to any Hon. Member. With regard to his proposal, as there seemed to be an agree ment as to the principle, and differences appeared to exist only as to the means, it would be better for the present to withdraw his amendment, and re• introduce it at a future period.—(Hear.) His idea had been that clause . 44 might be expunged altogether if his amendment were agreed to. The amendment was the❑ withdrawn. Lord G. SOMERSET thought the Hon. Gentleman bad exercised a very suund discretion. The object of all who had taken part in the discussion was, he believed, the same. It would be much better to propose the words upon the con sider at:on of clause 44. Clauses 33, 34, and 35 were then agreed to. On dance 36 being read, Mr. WAWN said he understood it was the intention of some of the companies to abandon branch lines which had been projected. In such cases they would be compelled to place the roads in the condition in which they found them. Lord G. SOMERSET said that when application was made to Parliament to sanction the abandonment this point might be considered. Clauses 36 to 41 inclusive were then agreed, to. Clause 42, was agreed to, with a few verbal amendments, as was also clause 43. Lord G. SOMERSET then moved that the Chairman re• port progress, and the House adjourned at a Quarter-past Four to Five o'Clock. The House resumed at Five o'clock. SOUTH WALES RAILWAY. Mr. PHILPOTTS presented a Petition complaining that the standing orders in the case of the South Wales Railway had not been complied with. The petition was referred to the Select Committee. TRENT VALLEY EXTENSION. Mr. MARK PHILIPS brought up the Trent Valley Extension Bill, which was read a first time and ordered to be read a second time. BLACKBURN, A'JCRINGTON, AND COLNE RAILWAY. General LYGON presented petitions complaining that the standing orders on the Blackburn, Accrington, and Colne Railway had not been complied with.—Referred to the Select Committee. HEY WOOD WATERWORKS. Mr. STRUTT brought up the report of the Select Committee on the Heywood Waterworks. It stated, that the standing orders ought not to be dispensed with. SHREWSBURY AND BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY. Mr. ESTCOURT brought up the report of the Select Committee on this railway ; and it also wilted that the standing orders otn.;lit not to be dispensed with. Mr. SPOONER moved for the report of the Select Cemmittee on the London, Worcester, and Staffordshire Railway. The HONOURABLE MEMBER also moved for leave to bring in a Bill for the London, Birmingham, aild Sraf fordshire Railway. Mr. BROTHERTON presented a petition from the inhabitants of Heytesbury, the purport of which we could not catch. Mr. SHAW presented a petition against the system of National Education in Ireland. Sir G. STRICKLANI) presented a petition for the reduction of the naval and military establishments in the country. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. BLEWITT gave notice that on an early day, after Easter, he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the several Acts of Parliament which pro hibited the growth and curing of tobacco in Great Britain and Irelamd. Mr. GISBORNE gave notice that he should, on an early, day call the attention of the House to the subject of the powers of the Board of Trade with respect to railways. CONDITION OF THE LABOURING POOR. Mr. BORTH WICK, seeing the Noble Lord, the Member for London, in his place, would beg leave to ask him a question. In the last session of Parliament, the Noble Lord called the attention of the House to the distressed condition of the labouring population. Since then he (Mr. Borthwick) had had many communica tions from most districts upon the subject; and, there tore, he would wish to know whether it was the inten tion of the Noble Lord to bring the subject before the House this session ? Lord J. RUSSELL begged to say, in answer to the Hon. ana Learned Member, that it was his intention to bring the subject forward, with a view to prop )sing some legislative measure upon it, shortly after Eater. CIVIL DISABILITIES OF THE JEWS. Mr. TRELAWNY,sceing the Right llon. Baronet the First Lord of the Treasury in his place, begged to give notice that he would to-morrow ask the Right lion. Baronet whether it was the intention of her Ma jesty's Government to introduce, this session, any mea sure providing fur the removal of the civil disabilities of the Jews. Sir ROBERT PEEL begged to say, in answer to the Hon. Member's question, though the Hon. Member had said he would not put it until to-morrow, that her Ma jesty's Government did hope, at a very early period of the session, to bring forward a Bill for the removal of the civil disabilities of the Jews, at least so far as municipal and corporate disabilities ex tended.—([lsar, hear.) SUGAR DUTIES. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, in answer to a question from the Noble Lord, the Member for London, that with respect to the sugar duties and property-tax questions, he was anxious to make such arrangements for the discussions upon them as would be most convenient to the Home. lie was willing that the discussion upon either of these ques tions should be ta!:en to -morrow, upon the report, or upon the third reading on Monday. Mr. L ABOUCHERE wished to know if he correctly understood the Right Hon. Gentleman, in stating that ft was not the intention of her Majesty's Government to make any alteration in the classification of the sugar duties this session _2 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied in the affirmative ; and, in answe r to the question of Lord John Russell, he begged to say that he would now defi nitively fix Monday next for the discussion on the sugar duties. DUTY ON COALS. The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER, in answer to a . question from Lord llowiek, said apnrxoip(o)usitronbfroirngthe remission of the export heon, at as early * period as duty on coals. possible,'vas mustth e SUGAR DUTIES. The CHANCEI4I,OIt of the EXCHEQUER, in answer to a question from Dr. Bowaisu, said it was not the intention of her Majesty's Government to make any substantial changes with regard to the duties on sugar. Sir R. PEEL was understood to say that, as there were a great number of articles upon which the duty was to be taken off, and about which there was no substan tial difference of opinion, it would be desirable that a selection of such articles should be made, and the ques tion with regard to them fettled.—(Hear, hear.) POOR LAWS (IRELAND). In answer to a question by Mr. BELLEW, on the subject of poor-law unions in Ireland, and the debts to which some of them were subject, Sir J. GRAHAM said that the report on the subject was not yet prepared ; but as soon as it was ready it would be laid on the table, together with the Treasury minute with regard to it. MUSEUMS OF ART. Mr. EWART said that he rose for the purpose of moving for leave to bring in a Bill to enable town councils to establish museums of art in corporate towns. The merit of the measure was almost entirely due to the Hon. Member for Taunton, wh o h a d acte d with him on the Committee which sat upon the subject. That Com mittee recommended the stnblishment of schools of de signiand, first of all, it recommended the establishmentof a central school in the metropolis. It also recommended the establishment of schools in the various manufacturing towns in connexion with the central school. Only one thing was wanted now, and that was, that the central school should be devoted rather to the purposes of a normal school for making masters, than for the purpose of elementary education in art. That was the original design of the school, as his Right Hon. Friend the Member for Oxford, to whom the country was greatly indebted for his exertions with regard to this subject, would well remember. But that design had not been fully carried out. As yet, the central school in London was not a normal school of art, but he trusted that they were making advances towards that more perfect system which existed in foreign coun tries. Another recommendation of the Committee was, that exhibitions or galleries of art should be established in the various manufacturing and other large towns of the country. It was not intended that those exhibitions should be limited to the temporary purposes of mere ephemeral exhibitions.—(Hear, hear.) The Committee were anxious that those mu seums should contain specimens of antique art, of me dieval art, and of modern art. That recommendation had not been carried into effect ; and it was to remedy this omission that the p resent Bi ll was proposed. The Committee had hoped that the Go vernment would have assisted, if not by the formation, at least by its co-operation with those who were willing to form these provincial museums, by obtaining perfect casts of the best specimens of antique and modern works, and distributing them to the various manufacturing towns, to be deposited in their museums. In London such a gallery had been established, but it was by no means perfect. He under stood it would be necessary to procure for that gallery new casts of the various works of antiquity. But the object of the present measure was to diffuse these various specimens of art throughout the country ; them councils os to send them to the museums of Manchester, of Glasgow, passto defray the this Bill in of Birmingham, of Coventry , and of all the large menu ofacrdteurrintgo towns lie e askedtown h ne enable h expenses necessary for these museums by the im position of a small borough rate, so as to admit th e po pulation upon the eas iest p ossible term s. Many per sons were ready to aid in the formation of t these museums, either by the subscription of money, or by presenting them ,with works of art. It was to encourage these exertions that he ventured to propose the present measure to Parliament. There were peculiar circumstances at the present time which allowed a facility for the diffusion of works of art throughout the country which had never been enjoyed in times past. By means of their railways they could send casts of improved specimens of works of art to the different manufacturing towns, and it would be the fault of the Government if there was a single manufacturing or large, town in the country deficient of a museum of ssich a character, as might give a sound taste in art to the population of that town, and thus enable them to apply the skill they would obtain in the arts to manufactures. He trusted, therefore, that they should see before long the system of schools of design perfected throughout the country, and that the central school in. the metropolis would become what the Committee revommended it should be. It was well known that, till the Romans had such an abundance of statues iu Rowe that th wind of the people was improved through the eye, they never became aware of the value of the arts ; and it was the same with the people of this country. It had be, n said that England wouid not mal,e toy great alvancc's in the art-, because it NY::S a c,,matercia! nati n ; hut : e believed, it they a& 'wed th,r rec )mrnendation of.the Committee, that, I;ke Venice, the large manufac turing to mns of this country wo;ild be quite capable of appreciating the value of the fine arts. With this view he called on the Government to assist in pr(rro•ing this o`iject, and to wipe away the stain that hung upon the artistic reputation of the country.—(llear, hear.) Ile had now shortly stated the principle of the subject he intended to bring before the House. He did nt,t think it necessary further to diate upon it, but would conclude by moving for leave to bring in a Bill to enable town councils to establish museums of art in corporate t wns. _ Mr. WYSE seconded the motion. Every day's expe rience showed the necessity for diffusing education not only in great towns but in the provinces. Establish ments had been formed in many principal towns, and the best effects had been produced. Taste. however, for art, was not sufficiently diffused in the country. Many of the schools of design had not the means of availing themselves of the contributions in books or in works of art which might be given them, by reason of their having no place sufficiently extensive to receive them. Without granting the power to town councils to raise such a fund, how could they expect to create a taste for the arts in this country, for they knew how littl , ! guarantee to the success of an institution arose from the exertions of private in dividuals. They were aware that there were institu tions to which individuals were willing to contribute works of art, valuable books or specimens of natural history, but from the circumstance of there befit.- no building in the locality capable of }lidding them, those who would have so contributed were obliged to retain, on their own premises, those articles which they would otherwise have given to the public, and thus an impediment was created to the advance of the fine arts in this country. Ile was anxious with his Hon. Friend to provide a remedy for this evil, and he had some years ago introduced a Bill for a similar purpose. He did not expect any opposition to the introduction of this Bill, and he would defer any remarks of his to a future stage. He would second, with great pleasure, the motion of his Hon. Friend. Sir W. JAMES thought the motion was highly worthy the attention of the House. lie was gratified to state that an Honourable Friend behind him had given to an institution at Hull a large collection of classical casts, and that their value was appre ciated. With respect to corporations, as re modelled by the Municipal Reform Bill, he was glad to see that they were becoming anxious to pos sess colections of works of art. But be remembered that when they were first reformed, most valuable works of art, s.ane of them the pictures of Sir Joshua Reynolds, and others of high eminence, which had been presented to the old corporations, and also antique plate, which had been, in some instances, in possession of the old corporations since the time of Elizabeth, were disgracefully brought to the hammer, and sold by auction. He was happy to see symptoms of a better taste, and, if the improvement went on, perhaps the reformed corporations would send their children to classical schools, where they would become acquainted with the old verse— " Ingenues didicisse fideliter artes Emollit mores, nec sinitesse feros." —(A laugh.) And perhaps in course of time they would recover the reputation for hospitality of which the old corporations used to be proud.—(Hear, and a laugh.) He could only say that he thought the country was much indebted to the Hon. Member for Dumfries for the trouble he had taken on this subject. Mr. MARK PHILIPS thought it was of the utmost importance that a taste for literature and the arts should be encouraged in the rising generation ; and he thought some such proposition as that which had been made by his Hon. Friend should be adopted by the House. He (Mr. M. Philips) hoped that his lion. Friend would give sufficient time for discussion of the merits of this Bill in the country, to prevent any hasty expression of opinion upon that which was intrinsically good in itself. He had great pleasure in supporting the introduction of this Bill. lie hoped that, when the Bill would be carried into operation in large towns, the museums would be opened at such hours and under such regulations as would be advantageous to the working classes. Mr. HUME said he had no doubt of the justice of the motion of his Hon. Friend, and only wished that it would be enlarged, in order to give power to the councils not only to provide museums, but places of recreation for the people play-grounds and public walks. The greatest desire existed among the lower classes to take advantage of the exhibition of works of art, and he believed that every Host. M-mber would bear testimony to the propriety with which the humbler classes conducted themselves in these exhibitiens.---(Hear, hear.) Some years ago Mr. Buckingham had introduced a Bill which comprehended the provisions of that which the Hon. Member was about to introduce, and a great deal more. Ministers should lend all the in fluence they possessed for the establishment of such institutions. They occupied the minds of the people, refined their taste, and prevented them from - being engaged in bad projects. He submitted it was a subject well worthy of the atten tion of the Government, and he was sure, if they would only consent to adopt it, the step would do theta mere honour than any other measure they could bring forward. Mr. BERN AL said the manner in which the Hon. Member for Dumfries had brought forward the subject did him great credit; but he trussed the Honourable Member would not dovetail his plan, but con fine himself to one proposition. He thought it was highly gratifying that, so far as they could learn the outrages which had been committed in public museums were not perpetrated by any of the labouring classes of the country. No operative that he was aware of had been convicted of anoffence of this nature, but he be lieved the outrages which had been committed were per petrated by persons moving in a superior walk of life. This was the only capital in Europe, he believed, that was without a museum of art, and when they saw what was done in a neighbouring country, and the impulse that had been given to a love of the fine arts by the King of the French, he thought that they should stir themselves to form a museum of art in this metropolis which would be worthy of the English nation.—(Hear.) Many of the works of art of the middle ages were going to decay, and he would implore the Right Hon. Baronet to direct his attention to it, for the purpose of finding some means to preserve them. Sir R. PEEL said that the subject of which the Hon. Gentleman had alluded, ha I not altogether escaped his attention. But many suggestions of a similar kind were made, such of which, individually consid:red, was worthy of public favour, and of those suggestions he could only select such as appeared to be most im portant. They had turned their attention to the im provement of the geological museum, and he hoped that they would be enabled, in the course of the present session, to make some proposal for the purpose of promoting greater access to this improved geological museum. Ile concurred with the Hon. Gentleman in the great advantage which would result from the encou raging and promoting a love of art ; but he advised the House to be cautious in giving extensive power of taxa tion to municipal bodies.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman was anxious to see a museum of art. An • other Hon. Member wished to give municipal bodies powers of taxation, for the purpose of purchasing places of recreation; and there was another object, perhaps of more importance than either, for which local taxes should be levied—namely, the ventilation and the im proving of the salubrity of towns. But they ought to be cautious, lest they should make the taxes for those pur poses too expensive ;'and thereby create a prejudice against those objects, which they thought so necessary. —([fear, hear.) He would advise the Hon. Gentleman, therefore, to limit himself to his own particular plan, and not to incorporate other. purposes with it. There was a great disposition amongst those who psospered by manufacturers to remember the obligations which they owed to those through whom they derived their wealth, and to contribute largely to the purposes of art.—(Hear.) Re hoped they would take care not to check this dispo sition to contribute, by making it a subject of local taxation. At any rate, he hoped that these town councils would think it preferable to try to raise as large a sum as possible by voluntary contribution. He believed if towu councils should vote large sums for the purpose of establishing museums of this kind, providing the buildings and purchasing the objects for exhibition, they would in many cases throw the public money away. But, if the town councils would call on the affluent con nected with the place to contribute a certain specific sum for the purpose of establishing these museums, stating that, when established, they would undertake, by an annual rate, to provide for the permanent charges of the superintendence., they wou'd by that means induce many to contribute for this purpose. In the case of building, churches, it had been found that many persons would advance a certain sum of money over which they would have some control, who would not consent to burden their property for that purpose. Where the authorities had said, " If you will provide the edifice, we will guarantee a permanent endowment for it," it was gratifying to observe how willingly assistance was given. He be lieved town councils would find many persons, in places where manufactu'res were prosperous, who would be willing to make presents of objects of art, or of large sums of money to be paid at once, if they were assured that a museum would be permanently provided. He . hoped the Hon. Gentleman would consider this suggestion, and that if he gave town councils any power to raise money at all, it would be made subservient to private contributions. Lord J. MANNERS said he should be happy to see the proposition of the Hon. Member carried into effect. If the Hon. Member for Montrose would renew his Bill he should be happy to support it. There was a growin g desire on the part of the people to provide means of public recreation. He had the pleasure and gratification of living in a large house where there were many works of art ; he had witnessed persons going there who were delighted with what they saw, but he had never heard of a single instance of any of those works being injured by the visitors there. He could not sit down without offer ing his praises to her Majesty's Government for the care they had taken of works of art, and fur their restoration, particularly in Glasgow and Elgin. Mr. BROTH ERTON thought it most important in large communities that something should be done, not only to improve the public taste, but the m n.als of the people. Schools of design were not sufficient, museums were necessary, and if established he would. venture to say they would act as a sort of moral police. In the great town of Manchester a aeons of of a halfpenny in the pound would enable in rti to erect a building that would cost 50,000/., and in that building might be placed works tha t would greatly con tribute to the delight, the improvement, and the educa tion of the people. In the town of Manchester alone, so well did the people appreciate the value of such institu tions, that they had collected about 30,0001 towards making a public park, and he was happy to say that the Bight Honourable Baronet opposi e had contributed the munificent sum of 1,000/. towards this perk.—(Great cheering.) P o ut public parks could not be enjoyed b:. the people at all seasons of the year, particu larly in an uncertain climate like this, and there fore the greater necessity for public measure-, for they would not only have the effect of elevating the minds and improving the morals of the lower classes, but they would also eventually withdraw them from the public house, where they now too ften spent their earn ings in dissipation, and convert them at length into a sort of moral police for the prevention of many cr imes.— (Hear, hear.) Besides, when once these amusements were established, they would he sure to receive contribu tions from gentlemen who could not heretofore entrust their property to the old corporations, for those bodies had no object but their own gratification in feasting.— (Hear, hear.) He had great pleasure in supporting the proposition. He thought it would elevate the minds of • the people, and raise science to a still higher position than it at present enjoyed. Mr. HUTT highly approved of the measure, and ob served that nothing could be more successful than the schools of design. Schools of design had been opened in Newcastle, Sheffield, and Birmingham, which had been attended with the greatest advantage, and works had been produced by them which were objects of admira tion in every capital in Europe. Englishmen ought to be as renowned for works of taste as they were for suc cess in commerce and manufacture, and nothing could more effectually raise the minds of the people from gro,s and sensual pursuits than such pursuits. Mr. LABOUCHERE said there was so little diversity of sentiment on this subject, that he did not think it would be necessary for him to trouble the House at any length. lie would, however, express his hearty concur rence in the views of the Hon. Member for Dumfries, and his hope that his wishes would be realised. The country was indebted for the establishment of schools of design to his lamented friend, the late Lord Sidmouth. Those who live in the principal seats of manufacture ought to have an opportunity of improving their taste by the exhibition of the best works of art. Sir Francis Chantrey had assured him that it was from the fact of these classic models being continually before his eyes that he wa3 induccd to turn his mind seriously towards the fine arts as a profession. In the large towns every stranger, on visiting them, must be agreeably struck with the feelings of pride and pleasure with which the citizens regarded any work of art they happen to pos sess. He did not share in the fears the Right Hon. Baronet seemed to entertain that the councils would spend any of the money entrusted to them for these pur poses wantonly. Let Aim consider the benefits France had derived from the establishment of schools of de sign, and from the exhibition of works of merit, and the superior skill and perfection she had thereby ar rived at in some kinds of manufactures. The question was of national importance, and he was glad to see so much unanimity in the House on the subject. Mr. SHEIL hoped one of the provisions of the Bill would be to enable the working classes to visit museums on Sundays. That was the only day they could attend such places. Surely it could not be said that so harm less a recreation was a desecration of the Sabbath ? Leave was then given to bring in the Bill ; Mr. Ewart and Mr. Wyse to prepare it. PRISONER'S COUNSEL BILL. Mr. EWART moved fur leave to bring in a "Bill enabling the defendant's counsel in civil, and the pri soner's counsel in criminal cases, to address the jury on the close of the evidence for the prisoner or defendant." The most eminent lawyers in Westminster Hall were of opinion that a change in the present system was neces sary, and it was with the concurrence of many of them that he brought it forward. The present hardship was, that the defendant or prisoner called witnesses, two speeches would be made for the plaintiff or prosecutor, and only one for the defendant or prisoner. This, espe cially in criminal cases, was a gross injustice, and many counsel, sooner than subject themselves to a reply from the prosecuting counsel, forbore to call any witnesses. Another hardship was, that if witnesses were called for the defence, and their testimony did not, in any respect, confirm the statement of the defendant's counsel, an unfavourable and unjust impression might be made on the Court and jury, and the defendant's counsel had no opportunity of reconciling little inconsistencies, and ex plaining trifling misunderstandings, which might be productive of the greatest disadvantage to the accused. Again, different modes of practice prevailed on this matter, and it would be desirable to estsblish uniformity. In the Sessions Court in Scotland, in the Committees of that House, and other places, the defendant's counsel had the right of reply, which he thought was but just and reasonable. He did not move to ask for leave to bring in a Bill, but only requested that the House and the Government would devote its attention to the subject. Mr. HUME seconded the motion. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL could not say he ap proved of such a measure as that contemplated by the Hon. Member, although at the sane time he agreed in many of liTs observations. He felt the difficulty in which the prisoner often stood, but at the same time he did not think that any serious evil accrued from the present system. The Hon. Gentleman had alluded to the system in Parliamentary Committees and elsewhere, of hearing the speeches of defendant's counsel, but that system was felt to be so inconvenient that they were about aban doning it, and adopting the same plan as existed in Westminster Hall.—(Hear, hear.) The Honourable Gentleman had not brought in a motion for a Bill, but had moved for an inquiry. He (the Attorney- General) thought the better course would be for his Hon. and Learned Friend to refer this inquiry to the Commissioners who were already appointed for inquiring into the working of the criminal law. On the list of that Commission he would find the names of gentlemen who were men of great experience, and whose decision was, in his (the Attorney-General's) opinion, very likely to be satisfactory to the country. They were inquiring not only into the principles, but also into the details of the effect of this alteration in the practices of the supe rior courts at Westminster. The inquiry of his Hon. and Learned Friend was, in fact, a portion of the duty of that Commission ; but if, after their decision, he was still anxious for further elucidation, he (the Attorney- Genet al) was sure that the Government would have no objection to the inquiry. Mr. HUME, said that after what had fallen from the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite, he must say that nothing could be more proper, or more wise, or better, and he would advise his Hon. Friend to withdraw his motion, and leave the matter in the hands of the Government. _ _ Mr. EWART said that, under the circumstances, he fully saw the propriety of acceding to his Hon. and Learned Friend. He was satisfied that the matter could not be in better bands ; and he should, therefore, under the advice of his Hon. Friend, beg leave to withdraw his motion. The motion was then withdrawn. SALE OF lIAFOD ESTATE. Mr. HUME said, that in the absence of his Hon. Friend the Member for Coventry, he would beg to make the motion of which he had given notice. In do ing so, however, he did not feel it his duty to say a single word, and he should simply put the motion in order to give the Noble Lord at the head of the Woods and Forests an opportunity of making a statement of the facts to which the motion referred. He then, for the Member of Coventry, moved for copies of all surveys and valua tions of 7,438 acres 36 roods of land belonging to the Crown, adjoining to the Duke of Newctsstle's Hated estate, in Cardiganshire, which has been sold to his Grace by private contract for 1,049/ 15s. 6d., by her Majesty's Commissioners of Woods, Forests, and Land Revenues, as stated in Appendix, No. 2 (A), in the said Commissioners' report fur 1844 ; and also copies of all correspondence relating thereto. The Earl of LINCOLN said that he did not shrink from meeting the motion of which the lion. Member fur Coventry had given notice ; and he only thought it both unfair and improper not personally to put a notice of this nature before the House, and be there present to supportit. The House mu t be aware that it was evi • dently intended to cast a slur upon him—to throw a sus picion around his proceedings—and extend that suspi cion to the Government of which he was a member. He should just make these preliminary observations, be cause he felt that, as a public servant, there ought to be no suspicion resting upon him. And he said this, not only in justification of his own feelings as such public servant, but also out of respect to the Go vernment of which he formed a part. It had been sup posed that the transaction to which the motion of the Hon. Gentleman referred was a contract between him ' self (the Earl of Lincoln) and his father, the Duke of Newcastle. That was not the case. The estate of Hafod had been in the possession of Colonel Johns, and upon it certain claims had been made by the Crown, which the Colonel, and subsequently his devisee, refused to admit. The estate had been put up for sale by both these parties, and, in order to clear the tile, and make the estate mare marketable, it had been valued by two gentlemen—Mr. Morgan on the part of the Crown, and by Mr. Adam Murray, on the part of Colonel Johns and his de visees. These circumstances occurred in 1832. when Lord Duncannon was at the head of the Woods and Forests, and they were a c aissqueriee the proceedings of the devisees of Colonel J.l , lThs, with which the Duke of Newcastle need not and had not hal anything to do. The Duke's purchase of the estate was a subsequent transaction; he did not buy it at the auction at all. Mr. Morgan stated that the extent of the property was 8,061 aeres, and that the value of it was I,o9Bl.—,Laughter) This might s'. em very extra ordinary to some Gentlemen opposite, but he believed he should be able very briefly to explain it. The House was aware that no property of the Crown could be dis posed of except under the valuation of an a ccredited surveyor, upon oath.—(Hear, bear.) That valuation had been made and stated upon oatb, and M r. Morgan 's valuation was 1,0981., %%Jule that of Mr. Murray wa a s 632/.—(Hear, hear.) The fact was, in order to makethe sale of the estate at all, it was necessary to ascertain e extent of the rights of the Crown, :val . C of the estate, yet cons to any portion his devisees, though they denied the riFidheotroeoaf raoawna matter of prudence, it was bettt_eeractoripgukrtsausentdhemaciotuerasne they had taken, tha n contest ho unclear sale. Th is valuation was made under the au thority . of Lord D un cannon and Sir B. Stephenson as the tii gods and and Ftokreeshuse would was ld s Forests. li ready a ee by the survey ma de under it, that the exten t of the C d y o m t n m i producess ioner s that of authority; ds land ' was, as he had stated, 8,061 acres. The house was also probably aware that in order to convey an estate in which the Crown had any rate, there must be a warrant of the Treasury. He was ready to produce this warrant, signed by Lord Nugent, Sir John Ponsonby, and Mr. F. Baring, Lords of the Treasury for the time being. In one of the conditions of sale of the Hafod estate, it was stated that the Crown laid claim to a part of the waste lands, but that the right of the Crown had been purchased, and the venders stipulated no objection should be taken by the purchaser in consequence of the claims of the Crown to any rights of common over these estates. It was not universal for sales to be advertised and the warrants to be issued afterwards. They found that the warrant, in this instance, was dated Sept, 29th, 1832, and the sale advertised on Sept. 16th, 1833. The sale was by Mr. George Robins, and as he had stated his father, the Duke of Newcastle, did not buy at the sale, but after it. When the conveyance came to be made out, it was ascertained that there was no koundery line, and upon a more accurate survey of the estate, it was found that instead of there being 8,061 acres there were only 7,438 acres. On this, the Duke of NeWcastle demanded an abatement, and the Woods and Forests allowed 62/. This made the purchase money 738/. This took p'ne.e in 1833. The Ilouse would wish to know.how the diff:rence arose when he said the purchase money was 7351., and the actual amount received 1,049/. The ease was, that in conseeence of those boundary lines being in an unsettled state, a period of ten years had elapsed between the contract and the completion of the purchase. The Duke of Newcastle (his father) had denied, just as urgently as Colonel Johns had done, any right of the Crown at all, and whilst the business was in abeyance he (the Earl of Linco'n) had thought it necessary to place all the proceedings in this transaction entirely above suspicion, and he had aecordingly charged his Noble Father interest at the rate of four per cent. This amounted to 3111. 15s. 9d., and this, with the peineipal sum, made up the whole amount of the purchase-money handed into the Excliever.—(Hear, hear.) This the Duke thought very hard, and perhaps it might be called sharp practice, for the Crown had not a right to build a tenement or plant an oak on the estate. The Crown was lord of the manor, but Colonel Johns had gradually driven off all the small freeholders and pcitsessed himself entirely of the rights of common for more than 20 years. And though he knew it required sixty years to bar the rights of the Crown, yet so worthless are these rights in the event of the inclosure of more than 7,000 acres, the Crown could claim rent fur only one-twentieth part of it. If the House were at all dis:atisfied with his statement —(Cheers from all parts of the House)—he was ready to produce every letter and document that had passed in every stage of the tranaaction ; but the business bad been in hand more than twenty years, and ha was in formed, on application at the office of Woods and Forests. that as many letters as two and three a week often passed. concerning it. The papers were consequently exceed ingly voluminous, and he believed would, if printed, fill one of those large blue books. A desire to save expense to the country—(Hear, hear)—was his only reason for withholding them. But if there was the slightest doubt, he was ready to produce the valuations, all the docu wnts. the contract, the papers, the conveyances, and'all the correspondence that had passed respecting it. He trusted, therefore, that the Hon. Member for 'Coventry would be perfectly satisfied, and if he were so, that ho would come down to that House and state, in a full, fair, and an honourable manner, that his suspicions had been entirely and completely removed.— (Cheers.) Mr. HUME said that the explanation of the Noble Lord must remove every shadow of suspicion from the minds of Hon. Members with regard to this transaction. After the itatements be had made, and the documents he had read, it was impos..ible that any Hon. Member could entertain any opinion otherwise than that it was quite a regular and natural proceeding, and therefore, if allowed, he would withdraw the motion, and he would also say for himself, that the Noble Lord had exculpated himself from any charge, in the fullest., the. fairest, and the most satisfactory manner. After a few words from Mr. SHAW, The Earl of LINCOLN begged to tender his sincere thanks to the lion. Member for Montrose, for )he fair and handsome manner in which he had expressed him self. He thanked the Hon. Member most sincerely ; but at the same time he hoped that the House would allow him, in justice to himself and to his family, to produce the papers relating to this subject. He hoped, therefor 6, that the motion would stand, merely leaving out the word " correspondence." Mr. HUME said that he should willingly concur in any course required by the Noble Lord, and therefore he begged to leave out the word " correspondence" in the motion he had just laid before the House. SCILLY ISLANDS. Captain PECHELL, in moving for copies of all com munications addressed to the Treasury respecting the Post-office arrangements at the Islands of Scilly, with the answers returned thereto, &c., since the Ist day of ,August, 1844, up to the rresent time ; copies of all com munications addressed to the Post-office on the same subject, with the answers returned, from the same date ;• copies of all correspondence that has taken place with. the Admiralty in the course of the year 1844, respecting the conveyance of the mail to the Islands of Scilly ; a return of the expenses incurred for the Speedy and Snipe cutters during the period the same were employed in conveying the mails to and from the Islands of Scilly during the past year ; as also copies of any special re ports that were made by the commanders of the said cutters relative to the said service ; and a return of all places in the United Kingdom having the benefit of money a rder post office;, and distinguishing whether the said places aro established as post-offices, sub-post, or branch offices ;• complaining that the inhabi tants of the Scilly Islands were subjected to the very greatest inconvenience in their postal arrange ments, in consequence of the conduct of the Government. Their communication with the mainland was very much interrupted in consequence, although the many ships that were obliged, from stress of v. e ather, to put into the ports of the Islands, would of itself be sufficient to war rant a regular mail conveyance. He also complained that no attention was paid to the memorial presented by shipowni rs,representing that as no money-orders existed in the Llands of Scilly, the interests of the memorialists suffered very materially. Bills were dishonoured, and insurances upon ships, wind bound there, could not be effected in consequence. He (Capt. Pechell) hoped diet" the Chancellor of the Exchequer would, under all the circumstances, take some steps to remedy the evil ; and, as a first step, he begged to move for the returns upon the paper. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had no objection to grant the returns asked far. Sir C. LEMON had no desire to enter upon the dis cussion of the subject, as the Right Hon. Gentleman had so willingly acceded to the Gallant Member's motion, and he would only hoped that some plan would be adopted to give the Seilly Islands the advantages of a regular mail-packet, and of a money-order office, which were in the highest degree necessary. Mr. HUME hoped that the last return would be moved for separately, as it was of the very highest im portance to the country. The returns were agreed to. Mr. RICE moved an humble address to her Majesty, to lay before the House a copy of the report of the Com missioners appointed by the Treasury minute of the 20th day of April, 1844, to inquire into the subject of harbours of refuge ; together with copies of, or extracts from, the evidence on which that report was founded.— Agreed to. The Bastardy Bill was then read a second time, with out discussion, and was ordered to be committed to morrow. The Consolidated Fund Bill (8,000,0001.) was also read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. The House then adjourned at Eight o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. (Prom the roles and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) WEDNESDAY, MARCH 5. PROPERTY-TAX BILL. _ _ Order for Committee read ; Motion made, and Question proposed, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair :"—Amendment pro posed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words " this House w 11, upon this day six months, resolve itself Into the said Co,nmittee," instead thereof : Question put, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question." The House divided : MAJORITY—AYES, 96. A'Court, Captain Darby, George Mackenzie, T. Adderley, C. B. Dickinson, F. 11. Mackenzie, W. F. Aglionby, H. A. Duncombe, A. Manners, Lord J. Autrobus, Edmund Escott, Ilickham Masterman, John Arkwright, George Ewart,:William Newport, Viscount Bailey, J., jun. Farnham, K. B. Nicholl, John Baillie, Colonel Fitzroy, Henry PeeL.Sir Robert Barclay, David Flower, Sir J. Philips, Mark Baring, F. T. Forbes, William Pringle, Alexander Baring, W. B. Forster, Matthew Rolleston, Colonel ' Barneby, John Fuller, A. E. Russell, Lord J. Barrington, Viscount Gisborne, Thomas Ryder, G. D. Baskerville, T. B. Gordon, Captain Bandon, Viscount Benbow, John Gore, Montague Smith, T. B. C. Bentinck, Lord G. Goulburn, Monry Smythe, George Boldero, H. G. Graham, Sir J. Somerset, Lord G. Borthwick, Peter Greene, Thomas Somerton, Visconat Broadley, Henry Gregory, W. 11. Spooner, Richard Broadwood, 11. Grimsditch, T. . Stewart, John Brotherton, J. Ilsiford, Sir 11. Stuart, Lord J. Bruce, Lord E. Harcourt, G. G. Stuart, Henry Bruce, C. L. C. Henley, J. W. Thesigcr, Sir F. Buller, Sir J. Y. Hepburn, Sir T. B. Vivian, J. Ennis Busfeild, William Herbert, Sidney Wakley, Thomas Cardwell, Edward Hindley, Charles Wall, C. B. Carew, W. H. P. Hope, Charles Wellesley, Lord C. Chetwode, Sir J. Hope, G. W. Wodehouse, Edmond • Clerk, Sir G. Inglis, Sir R. H. Wood, Colonel Clive, R. H. Johnstone, Hope Wood, Colonel T. Colebrooke, Sir T. Legit, G. C. Wortley, John S. Colquhoun, J. C. Lincoln, Earl TELLERS. Corry, Henry Lowther, sir J. 11. Young, John Cripps, William Lygon, General Baring, Henry MINORITY—NOES, 23. Anson, Colonel Marshall, William Strickland, Sir G. B,.tiv,•rie, E. P. Monti, David Strutt, Edward Buller, Charles Muntz , G. F. I) Tancred, H. W. Christie, W. . Murray, Alexan Car Witmlngton, awn, J. T. Sir T. Curie's, 11. B. O'Connell, M. J. W Duncan, George runtridge, Captain Ehrin,gtm, Viscount l'n'siert", Robert Hawes, Benjamin Rice, E. R. Ilumphery, Alderman Sheil, R. L. TELLERS. Osborne, Ralph Blewitt, R. J. (IN THE COMMITTEE.) First Clause (the Rates and Duties by the recited Act granted to be continued and charged for the term of years), page 2, line 1 :—Proposed to fill the blank with " three :"—After wards proposed to fill the blank with " two :"—Question put, " That the blank be fillt.d with The Committ 7 ee divided : MINORITY—AYES, 1. Fitzroy, Lord C. Wakley, Thomas Dawes, Benjamin ry, Alderman Morris, David He nryH. TWoarre: on T. liumphe Osborne, Ralph Strickland, Sir G Tancred, 11.„W Anson, Colonel Blewitt, R. J. Bouveric, E. Busfeild, William Butler, Colonel Christie, W. I). Duncan, George TELLER Curteis, 11. B. lluutz, G. F. MAJORITY—NOES, 69. A'Coart, Captain Farnham, E. B. Newport, Viscount Adderley, C. B. Fitzroy, Henry Nichol!, John Aglionby, H. A. Flower, Sir J. Peel, Sir R. Antrobus, Edmund Forbes, William Philips, M ark Arkwright, George Forster, Matthew Pringle, Alexander Baillie, Colonel Fuller, A.-E. Rice, E. I:. Baring. W. B. Gordon, Captain Roileston, Colonel Barneby, John Goulburn, Henry Ryder, G. D. Barrington, Viscount Graham , Sir J . Bandon, Viscount Benbow, John Grimsditeb, T. Smith, 'f. B. C. Bentinek, Lord G. lialford, Sir 11. Smythe, George Boldero, H. G. Harcourt, G. G. Somerset, Lord G. Borthwick, Peter Herbert, Sidney Spooner, Richard Brotberton, J. Hindley, Charles Stewart, John Cardwell, Edward Hope, Charles Stuart, Lord J. Chetwode, Sir J. Hope, G. W. Stuart, Henry Clerk, Sir George Johnstone, Hope Theelger, Sir F. Clive, Robert It. Legit, G. C. Vivian, J. Ennis Corry, Henry Lincoln, Earl of Wellesley, Lord C. Cripps, William Lowther, Sir J. Wodehouse, m Edond Darby, George Mackenzie, W. F. Wortley, Jolui S. Dickinson, F. 11. M`Ncill, Duncan . TF.LLEES. Escott, Ilickham Manners, Lord J. Young, John ]wart, William Mastcrullaring, Henry The Rev. Mr. Tyler, llectorC)e bt. Giles's, has been appointed to the Canonry in .I.t. Paul's, vacant by the death of the Rev, 6ithrY Nuit4.