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whole Jed to ceirl d a nd been sup' that that the priests of Maynooth were taken from the very lowest stations in society, and that the fare they got at MMaynooth was a s goo d as what they were accus tomed to at home. He could not conceive how in at a an a ssembly of Ch r i s ti an men i t cou ld be objected 4 thn ed ucation essentially apo s t o li ca l was unmer i te d the priests of Maynooth. It was an important ques tion which might be put, on looking at the degraded state blished in of our vast manufacturing and rural districts, e l• Which has character of a Christian Church, "nit of the teachingof the Protestant Church as este• England, or that of the Roman Catholic Chu up to within a few years since proscribed in Ireland'?" B thi measure England would withdraw the Irish f rora T agit a ation ; and, more than that, would Irish educate the people, for they would much more Iftebably accept the social benefits of either sectarian or Zilgious elevation through the ministers of their faith, e an all the attempts of educational boards. He had ueen disposed rather to look at the question as one of state Pa t li el and undeniable justice, than on the ground_ of he (.°4t t•--(llear, hear.) Still, on that point also, ee eonceived it might easily be urged in consonance ••Iti l just reason and - equity. The seventh article of the tea ° , a provided for the amalgamation of the two coeti , - qtl b religious concessions and charitable endowments. ltienottivapeipr.s.lest ,e quesio, therefore, became narrowed to the one, *bother that amalgamation should be effected under the agreed on. Whether they would make a Plat to which they were solemnly pledged, and to go make a grant commensurate with the re at-ements of an increasing population. And . why enoduld they not? They had given the Presbyterians an seetZtnent for their church, they find given to the Dm- Ce ee l regturn of, they had joined the Prussian ref e : 4 on the faith of a convention_, and were they to th ee "' t Ireland, the poorest, the most needy of wec e , i , that measure of justice and assistance torrselitndeeyhthad unhesitatingly accorded to others? They of justice to Ireland, not only upon con % tl,of political —not upon grounds of expediency . . o t r %mediation, or past neglect, but upon the posit lye men s _ e t, rryiees of Ireland. The Irish had claims upon be" i n regard for services such as no other people ere anrPassed, services in war, whether rendered by her heldte-rhter navy services which seconding those of of : nad secured her lc glory and the safety rviztre-tlin:rehy ; and for such services she claimed and , , common justice of England ; and while ad- Ited n i? *41 3 pride and admiration to the services of Ire ", ' la would express his disbelief of the libel put for te 0 „"! the Pretended friends of that country, that if sta nd fort occurred, they would not, as heretofore, e lm, ::rth t h e champions of the British Crown. That Was a l i b ,rated with disgust ; but be it remembered, it h oe it ibel eet Put forth by any Saxon, and he would Plee--ets Publisher to answer for it to the Irish pen : ile eted wa r a .) Protestantism was in E - igland con Cathoji --` eneoblin associations ; but how had the only as ° l s Irel and end in , the rase 1-- enown it ? They had known . it n e e , - "IlOn of those who imposed persecution vi,oleteeset,i-11Pon them, who framed a treaty only to 1 , 8 401 - •"`L abjure it—who enacted a penal code to rot esta - e a r ad ,,, oPpress them. Such, till lately, the l and ; h e ll ; Church hai been recognised in Ire !lteetion b ee -rI3 "Y a brighter period had arisen—a gene tetd - a P r ang up evincing a spirit of kindliness, to e h f that bitter animosity which bad previously It -*esn3iPation characterised and disgraced the country. lhooleal"t important that the Irish Roman Catholics It ee not misapprehend the present feeling of En.g tarberae rda them, nor mistake the ripple that dis ace% the river, for ' the tide which characterised the thatthaeLand he would impress upon them the . truth, le-7 I °ner lee Wee .. English tyranny but Irish agitation was e -° improvement in that country.—(Cheers.) titeltl'ellerally disinclined to impress his opinions on the se ° e se, and his difficulties were now increased by Ile hwajoh surrounded the question.—(Hear, hear.) ley MI however, thought it his duty, f 'laver did he assert his present conviction, e a a n n d seill44: 4, :81leeou4 n rg tr e y an opinion or give a vote . more t i . tteets trance with his sense of duty towards his eons t end with the dictates of his con trhioe,e• Ile gave' that vote in favour of a measure lib ert he r egarded as the precursor of civil mid religious I% Y th i e n a more extended and truthful sense. In the 4 41' Confident belief that it was calculated to silence i t aiL int and allay division, and if the course, of wh_ie . h .. rise s ilarred tlae earnest, were carried out in all its tut Irlit t _ ,d P e rfection, he anticipated confidently the time eg s ' e w it t hoUt the acerbities of past injustice or the e ltteri t „")°, just remorse, the two countries would with ° f Grey addressed as " The United Kingdom a e„,-zi.dtain and Ireland."—(Loud cheering.) e `ae feel'a ANGLES felt that in the present case all •gatserj and arguraents were in favour of this teve,e`• (Rear.) It was said that they ought to te e e';: Ireland upon Protestant principles. He repudiated ‘l„,liveeitioetrine, although he was as zealous a Protestant „.''' th e : lie thought they ought not to deprive Ireland 'ator s - ' e associations and that religion which their an that the ross_ "ad be ue thed to them. He believed bv - ' a tattt I • ci a in s grip . lash Church, instead of strengthening e th Pin g at everything, was weakenin its ears the structure itself -rtlteessPstettest degree. For three hundredy the y s Church in Ireland had bad in its hands the ; a '"? tri°wlnents of that Church, andwhat was it yet hundred '"ltrs ae 7ar less influential than it was three an nay --°. It was, in fact, a Church supported . by _ n lt Ng 20,000 in ' en, in order that the ministers of ‘' h ureh i• enjoy their benefices. He believed the or th e ~. of Ireland was the principal grievance th e 6rrish people, and was one of the great causes of not see r that were committed in that country. He did etus e , te :w the Dissenters could object to the grant, ee . - lAt ed in the°°%ht to remember their ancestors partici eth,ii.t be eeZtlette%ls he the people of Ireland. They the • P c)e Yets, in ord _ ie. e ,„,, Juries that . er e was, t put their hands into Ireland. h to afford but a poor restitution for 4 " h ad henr,; go been done to the people of . its ef ta e nia . hin en - r o f ll °11 °"-rable Gentlemen e speaking with pe eie re _tand. what, th e ingratitude of of the people of m;cl by this he would ask, was the course pe,ilrieerely reitieountry towards them but that And were the rain ro o f Irela n d ototingi,, 4tl, B ,,,expect thu e g rfit efu injustice.or that ? It was in itie • " e Y were a the Irish people_ would be grateful le b eeest eeen . ccorded a full and entire measure of i. ad h eard g It never do. out by instalments would ie, religion of w* regret comparisons drawn between ::tttor s , Re , atheir Roman Catholic b retbe and to Ma etereeltnisret //inflect_heard that religionlikened 4 .1 ) . But uo oism, and other systems of idolatrous le woul d , risuch as he deprecated such comparisons, • k ee rriae r s t a itn Y' en h t a t , the Government of this country taken te - ' ll O5 Of /_,. the endowments of the Mahometans t e e r `b rae msula, and applied them to the sepport of to le ;Lards thterinreh, he should feel justified in acting 7-Ve °I hone the same way as he would act towardtns the rAlla of Ireland If they had power to re to es'atY support it their endowments, then he should cer tootliedisieueztthlt, but as they bad not that power, he 40 ma Join the Government in supporting the grant f Itt ni. Ita an instalment of justice to the people o to lit e * o fl..t-e whole -O TT said that, having listened attentively -.4 a d e the subject Et e e _ euate that had taken place in that House e ee er gint es e ect, ar o it having heard many debates in which 1714ts,,sey helt_ctreponderated greatly on one side, he kr 4 a.. eil te of" never been present at one in which the w ho opp osed. ''' ar a the opposition told so much in favour of the 1 1 ,,,..1,1 ,_ Many of the Honourable Members Ur' th '... "a part aninst this measure had dwelt his : a t 1 1 arp e „ I . ' bofpublic esaPP 'cation the money to its 4en 5 sown fbiethe Roman Catholic religion. It Y b3' thousands out of doors, and by 114114;i4414:1.,44110711.011:a Members in that House, upon het t° Ppo • • 110 w, he should like those who rested on this ground to draw the distinction prilillow pr oposed of 9,0001., as already given, and 27,000 . 1 It ~,,e e iP ebe l )t l s e d• He could not see any difference in 14.' 4 Wr ee jeen the present and the smaller grant — if bettelife‘tt°ol?Ply 2 7,0001. to Maynooth College, h i L ee eb. ° -eet e ke e F to vote 9,000/. The Hon. 11 . 1 em er su a -4 "lbt' - " l akes) had rested his opposition on fi e - e0 te e e. 4 l that se --4 people of England were opposed e., 11 :1 theillt:ele• In of this, he (Mr. Escott) be the e dope „, oeernber of that H mse could commit a Ik e _ suot believe act than to vote for its rejection. He 4 71 t o i , e're that any class of the people were op b.,. If ,0,11,4 believed the clergy were not opposed t to e slid frnwe_nere were their petitions ? Where was h law w here w of which so much had . been tie deelierineeere the petitions from the deaneries and ht Sd litt e i' against the passing of this Bill T d L 0a.„. 44 74 4.40; liwtyl,Y:tuiPeastsoeride a n b r ou t t w t n en w da n y w s in the country, and h pod to the ke 4 ' la e c , "'le one of the best p orterssupp of it he had Bound, 144 0 t with was a clergyman of the Church of their t Y We re , Was satisfied that the people of this s souse r belief In favour of this measure, because it was not hotrtrtetellwathit would benefit the people of Ireland.. the t i 7 3' th e __, 0 opposed this measure were aga t i s o n st f tol llia r , c' nu ownsent of a college for the pries 4:heferailtierileewaetiinitiltholics of Ireland, but even against the th e tt r ,tire eee o f th religion itself. That course had • `sro '7 Me at dad f 1 d Ihdb ntried during ti p e riod, a b l u e t it had f a ailed ee to put down th d e p e eest th e t une religion. That faith had triumphed -tr itte ' Yr anhy which had been then attempted to 111 1 4 ,1 ° , 1 1,, kict`unThe Hon. Member for the University of inse did L th mk it pr oper to take away the 9,000/. ; le er „ e 4ed he Denot, surely it w as no more t h an j ust Roman Catholic population of Ireland had No that ene. 4 l two and a half millions to seven millions ee t ed f ee ',_'__ 9f 9,000/. was first granted, that an ind 047rue:elm wulttlt should be now given for their enlarge a Os tki ; s hilli a nts ' It was not so much as a question of ereetseret in %, and pence that he supported it, but as Nie lvil i t ° bale a language of the first Minister of the f - tri , s ' 4 11 P a temple of peace between the two °I. he ' • tte did not look upon it as a final measure, W hich wa s 110 s aid a ll . 14 4 , pporte r of the miserable finality policy kstilartideleuroken up the previous Government, but as • . sm,t,lt ofjustice to lay the foundation of freedom, Istdos kee " • good will throughout the United b el t to the (near, hear.) It was said that we should 411eeted, _Present proceedings of the Roman Catholics of 4 iee _a proof that the object sought to be obtained 1 4 1 1 th e l ' a tn ure had failed. Instead of being satisfied Of nad weentsiire, it was said the Roman Catholics of en. els e ,__ , c . l rest short of nothing but the wild scheme f 411 tries peal °f the c ' t Co • bUt he w Le Union between the two th et Cork and „ o say—though the Hoe. Member ,ePelie_seidlose who followed him, no doubt adopted te'eabl e h e " was sure the great body of the good and Cd o '1)414,e444n Catholics of Ireland sympathised with alk" Lath e ' expressed by the Hon. Member for Arun those of the lion. Member for i e %li e r eealuag with the members of the Roman t , th all lai,joh, he would remind the House, 40 1 4 17 1% be tta tti ft et rra of this kind, " to do unto sr e ,7:e T he eY would that others should do unto as . Protestants, should consider what beat 4 4 eq h . feelines if' Placed in the position of their thee, °lle brethbren, and the Government - refused to •I niel -"' or, t,hatjust and enlightened principle. They %et recolle k ei they we re rode that it was to the Roman Catholic faith ee,e,Ptlb snisindebted for the foundation of their colleges a ct ; h t h 4t Ika! ; th by it their Bible had been pre ‘o It tt. —6at Y had been under obligations for rainy of their most excellent statutes and liberties ; and that its generositv and munificence in works of charity and benele'tnce were attested by a cloud of witnesses.—(Hear.) All these were illustratioras of its past greatness. They sliould, therefore, as mem bers of the Protestant Church, and as members of the United Kingdom, concede to the people of Ireland this measure of justice. He thanked the Ministers for the measure. He rejoiced at its introduction, as he thought it was calculated to serve the best interests of that country. Let them carry forward the good work of justice in the liberal and enlightened spirit in which they had begun, and the time would come when those who opposed the measure would regret that they had done so, and when the people of Ireland would enjoy, from a wise and enlightened policy, the blessings of a brighter and a happier day—a never-ending day of charity and peace.—(Cheers.) Mr. SPOONER said, the Hon. Member who had just sat down had begun his address by making a statement in which he would find he had been very much mistaken, for he had contended that he (Mr. Spooner) had argued the merits of this question as a question of pounds, shillings, and pence, or, in other words, that it was a question as to whether 9.0001. or 27,000/. should be the annual grant. Now, he begged to say, that he never did treat this as a money question, or as any other than a religious question, and that he would persevere in opposing it solely from conscientious motives. When this question was first introduced to the House, he said he would be willing to make any sacrifice to conciliate Ireland, short of a measure involving a ques tion of conscience. But now let him ask the Hon. Mem ber who had last spoken whether he had read the thirty first article of the Church of which he had no doubt he was a religious and conscientious member? That article contained these words. (Here the Hon. Member essayed to read a document he held in his hand, but after several attempts he appeared to be unable to decypher its con tents, which caused considerable laughter. Having made out a few words such as " blasphemous," " masses," he then continued.) He begged to re mind Honourable Members opposite, that it was not by clamour that parties could be convinced, or that ridicule could be deemed argument ; and, there fore, he was led to suppose that they had resorted to ridicule becathe argument had failed them. And he begged to tell the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department in the same words, that numbers did not constitute conviction. Let him (Mr. Spooner) not be misunderstood—towards his Roman Catholic fellow• subjects individually he felt the sincerest friendship and regard, and he gave them credit for acting according to the dictates of their conscience. But he looked upon this question as one which asked the House and the county whether the Roman Catholic or the Protestant religion was the religion of the Scrip tures; and if the answer should be in favour of the for mer, then it should be admitted that the Protestant re ligion was a complete delusion. He was ready to admit that this was not the place in which to enter upon a polemical discussion.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) He was aware that many of h's remarks would not be received with cordiality by those who were now listen ing to him. Neverthess he would not flinch from de claring, openly and honestly, what he felt to be his im perative duty. This measure had been reported upon without the slighest inquiry having been made as to the course of education pursued at Maynooth, but he would state what it was. The first book to which he would call the attention of the House was one which they would find alluded to in the report of the Irish Education Committee, at page 449 of that report. The book to which be alluded was that of Badly. In the second volume of that work, page 138, they would find it laid down that the Pope might dispense with oaths ; and in another page of the same book, it was stated that the Supreme Prelate could dispense with vows and oaths in all cases. In this the writer was confirmed by St. Thomas Aquinas, and several others. Dr. M'Hale said that it was laid down as a proposition that the utility of the Church was a just cause of the dispensation from oaths, and that the superiors of the Church were the judges of what was for the utility of the Church. Then there was Gelasius (as we understood)—the name being received with suppressed laughter by several Hon. Members, the Hon. Gentleman continued. The mention of that name might cause laughter amongst Hon. Gentlemen opposite, but the book which he had mentioned was a class-book s t Maynooth. It Hon. Gentlemen doubted it, let them go into that inquiry which he asked for. Gelasius said that bishops had the power of releasing persons from oaths provided just cause existed. And who were to be the judges of the just cause ? Why the Catholic prelates themselves. lie would ask the Hon. Member for Montrose if he was prepared to make this annual perpetual grant, and to give this large sum of money to persons irresponsible to Parliament ? It was!in vain to say that this measure would be a final measure, or that it would be received as such by the Catholics of Ireland. The Roman Catholics would not be doing justice to themselves, holding, as they did, that theirs was the primitive church---holding, as they did, that all who differed from them were heretics, they would not, he said, be faithful to themselves if they accepted this as a final measure. It would be only looked upon by them as a stepping-stone to further concessions. He would entreat the House then to pause before they sanctioned this measure. If they doubted, then was the time to stop this Bill and to demand inquiry. The Pro testant Members of that House had in the most solemn manner declared their belief that the Catholic religion was idolatrous and superstitious, and yet they were asked to give their consent to a measure for the training up of the priesthood who taught that religion. It was the paramount duty of the Government before they did this, and of the Lord High Chancellor of the Kingdom to come down to Par liament and ask that that declaration be no longer bind ing. It had been said that the feeling which had been evinced on this question was not a spontaneous feeling, but the effect of dictation and agitation. But could any sensible man think that without some responding feeling, that any set of men, however talented, sitting in a room in London, could cause to be laid on the table of that House petitions 'deeper and thicker than the heaviest fall of snow on ° Scotch mountains.—(Laughter.) The people of Great Britain thought and acted for themselves. The great body of the petitioners were men who acted on the spur of the moment. His Right Hon. Friend at the head of the Government had described his feelings as a mere effer vescence. He wished to deal with it as a doubtful ques tion, but his Right Hon. Friend should know that re ligious feeling was deep in the minds of the people of this country. The warning which his Right Hon. Friend gave last session did not alarm the country, because they looked upon him as the Pro testant leader of a Protestant country—as the Protes tant adviser of a Protestant Sovereign—as the leader of a party which rallied round him for four years, and placed him in that high and honourable position for the purpose of preserving the institutions of the country as they found them; and, above all, for the purpose of con serving and preserving the constitution, which this mea sure went directly to undermine. He challenged the Right Hon. Baronet to test the feelings of the country —he felt sure be was conscientious, and that nothing but a sense of public duty would induce him to do what he had done—but let not the Right Hon. Baronet pro ceed further in this course before he threw himself on the Protestant feeling of the country; and if he acted in accordance with their feelings, he would find th.it warm support which he could not otherwise obtain. He might depend upon it, the country would not sub mit quietly to this change—the greatest change that had ever been proposed by any Minister of the Crown since the days of the Revolution. He called upon the Right Hon. Baronet to appeal to the country, and if the voice of the country was found favourable to the measure, he would never more give it an iota of opposition ; but let not the country undergo that change at the hands of a Minister who had been placed in power under very different expectations.—(Hear, hear.) They might plaister the wounds of the public mind, but they would break out with increased virulence ; the public feeling might smoulder, but it would break out sooner or later ; and he therefore called upon the Government to pause before they committed this great error, which they could not recal, and which would, he conscientiously believed, be fatal to the honour, the peace, and the prosperity of this country. He thanked the House for the manner in which they had heard him. He had no feelings of ill will towards his Catholic fellow-countrymen,with many of whom he lived in terms of friendship. He gave them credit for honour and honesty ; and he thought that if they did not act as they had done, they would not be performing their duty according to the views of the re ligion to which they belonged. Mr. C. BULLER said he told his Hon. Friend the Member for Waterford that he was doing an exceedingly foolish thing when he entered into the subject of theology, and entered into an explanation of the doc trines of the Roman Catholic Church, for he might be sure Hon. Members on the other side would quote volumes of theology.—(A laugh.) See the consequence. The Hon. Member for Birmingham had thrown aside all other questions, and entirely devoted himself to the study of the Catholic divines—(Laughter)—the 140 volumes of St. Thomas Aquinas, and the voluminous writings of Talacosius, wasn't it ?—(Laughter.) Well, then, Gal la,tias, or some such name. The Hon. Gentleman seemed to have waded through these, and having found in them two or three doctrines which he considered reprehensible, called upon the House to condemn the measure under its consideration. So that they were to refuse this measure of concession to their Roman Catholic fellow-subjects because the Hon. Member for Birmingham had found, among the immense collection of the works of the great writers of the Catholic Church, monuments of the ability and zeal of barbarous times, a few opi nions which he considered repulsive.—(Loud cheers.) After this warning, he heped Hon. Members, in the fu ture discussion of this question, would leave the question of theology where it then stood. The Hon. Member for Birmingham seemed to be fearful of encountering ridi cule. He could assure the Hon. Gentleman that he was not inclined to ridicule him. It was more in sorrow than in anger that he heard such discussions, and in such a spirit. He felt pained that the Hon. Member should think it necessary to declare in that House that their Roman Catholic fellow-subjects were labouring under an awful delusion. He certainly thought that an Hon. Member who spoke in that way—an Hon. Member who took credit to himself for a considerate regard for his Catholic fellow-subjects, and who yetcould insult them in this deliberate manner, was himself labouring under an awful delusion. He hoped there was no occasion to be guided by the advice of the Hon. Gentleman and the Hon. Member for Dorset to dissolve Parliament. He did not see any necessity for it.—(Laughter.) The Hon. Mem ber for Dorset said that the Right lion. Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Department had ad vised a dissolution of Parliament on the Reform Bill ; but the reason of that was, that the Reform Bill had been thrown, of which there was no chance of the' May • nooth Bill. He was one of the very few Members who had received no remonstrance from his constituents on this subject, although he had given the Bill and would give the Bill his most anxious and zealous support, and be thought that his constituents had thereby acted pro- THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAy MORNING, MAY 20, 1845. perly, and shown that they thoroughly understood the re &principle of a representative Government. Helooked upon the provision for the education of the Catholic clergy as a great good, and he regarded it as a step in the right direction—the first advance towards a just and concililiatory line of policy towards Ireland. It was not a mere change of opinion in a particular man, but a total change of policy which must now be persevered in, whatever Government was in office. Roman Catholics were now put upon a level, in point of civil rights, with their Protestant fellow-subjects. The Emancipa tion Bill had been passed—the penal laws had been abolished—ths Catholic Bequests Bill had been carried into operation—and now the Government proposed a measure which would afford a full and satisfactory mode of education to the Roman Catholic priesthood. lie re garded all these things as a portion of that line of policy which would ultimately be found the most beneficial. Coercion had failed. and it was most remark able that the very men who most strenuously opposed those measures of relief to Roman Catholics were now their most ardent supporters, nay, actually brought them before Parliament with a firm determination of carrying them through. He hoped the day was not far distant when the endowment of the Roman Catholic Church would take place, for all these measures led to it. He found that this measure was proposed by Ministers who were put in power to arrest the progess of a principle on which they confessed they must govern Ireland. There was one point on which he would make concession to the opinions of those opposed to him, averse as they were to the policy on which they ought to govern. He did not think the experiment was disproportionate to the object. He was obliged to admit that he could not look upon the measure as a solitary measure. It was not a solitary measure at the present moment. He looked upon it in connexion with the excellent measure for the increase of academical education for Ireland, which was introduced the other night; and in conr*xion with the promise given the other night of assimilating the municipal franchise in Ireland with the municipal franchise in England. Whatever might be his objections to the details still he could not think that he could for a moment bring these objections against a measure which showed a policy of justice towards Ireland. It seemed to him to be the duty of every friend to Ire land—of every person wishing justice to that country, and of every person who wished to continue the con nexion between the two parts of the empire, to support the measure which was row before them. That was a policy to which he gave as strong and as unhesitating a support, as if it were introduced by a Liberal Mi nistry, and as if the existence of that Ministry de pended on its support.—(Hear, and laughter.) If this measure were rejected by them, they would discontent the people of Ireland, and give them a just cause for showing that the repeal o f th e un i on was the only remedy for the evils of the country. The claim of the Irish people to have their religion upheld and respected was Just as great as that of the people of England and Scotland to have theirs upheld, and 36,0001. was a very small sum for that purpose, considering that they had deprived them of that endowment which their ancestors gave them for the support of their hierarchy.--(Hear, hear.) Certain speeches on both sides of the House resolved themselves into this, that they could not support an endowment of a church, because they adopted the voluntary principle. and they ought not to give anything to any church whatever. The application of the voluntary system in the present instance was quite absurd, because they ea.. dowed the Presbyterians and Unitarians in the north of Ireland; but whatever be the religion of the rich they gave them some of the public money, and it was only when poor men came forward for the support of their religion that they buttoned up their pockets.— (Hear, and laughter.) That was a principle which was both odious and ridiculous. It could not be just, for they called upon the Catholics to pay all the Protestant sects, and why not pay them something in return. The arguments used were, that the doctrines of the Roman Catholics were unsound, but though he was ready to submit that many of their doctrines were erroneous, he at the same time considered that the religious opinions of every class of the community should be equally respected. The existing repugnance to the Roman Catholic religion was quite ungrounded. They used invariably to ground their case on the assumption of a temporary expediency to coerce the whale party in power to fall in with their views. Their case was precisely similar to that which was equally tenable for all parties. They considered if a new policy to be pursued towards Ireland was the means of their obtaining the reins of Government they would be fully justified in following it up.—(Hear, hear.) They thought if they could place the Right Hon. Baronet in power, they could make him the instrument of their intentions. The pro posed measure was of far too great importance to the in terests of Ireland to be lightly discussed. It was to the mutual interest of all parties in the House to co-operate one with the other ; and without that mutual union it would be impossible to do justice to the long-neglected claims of the Irish people. He had no great misgivings as to the ultimate effect of giving satisfaction to Ireland; but then it would require the energetic and united efforts of all parties. Every step in the conduct of their policy towards Ireland should be unanimous. He considered if the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government were disheartened in the progress of the policy at present pursued towards that country, a great and glaring wrong would be perpetrated on the Irish nation; and the Right Hon. Gentleman might rely on his (Mr. Buller's) support, not only on this, but on every occasion when a similar measure to the present should be proposed for the amelioration of Ireland.— (Cheers.) Public opinion was more in favour of the measure than was commonly thought. He would suggest. an idea which was more important than the Right lion. Baronet was willing to admit. He would inquire, now that he had done so much for the Irish nation, what did he propose to do hereafter ?—(Hear, hear.) A wise lesson might be obtained from the satisfaction with which the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Home Department had been received, and it was a matter of great congratulation for him. Good policy was now being pursued towards Ireland, and it might be con sidered as the omen of better times hereafter. The Catholic emancipation was not happily the last boon which the people of Ireland were to obtain, nor was it now intended, since they could no longer exclude the Catholics as religionists, to debase them as a political party. Lord Melbourne's Govern ment had done all that laid in its power towards amelio rating the condition of the Irish nation, and the people were satisfied that all that could be done had been done, and it was the satisfaction that resulted from this convic• tion which induced them to place confidence in the Noble Lord's administration. Bad policy pursued towards a country for whole centuries was not to be remedied by the adoption of one solitary measure. The Irish people were naturally suspicious of the good faith of the present Government, when they took into consideration the treatment they had hitherto received from them. They were doubtful what would be the result of the policy at present pursued, but he would advise the Right Hon. Baronet only to persevere in the course he had elected to follow, and Irishmen would soon be satisfied of his good intentions towards them. National feelings were not always the less favourable because they were not always noisily expressed. He was firmly of opinion that the repeal of the Union, about which so much noise had been heard, was the greatest enemy to the in terests of the people of Ireland. The question was one of great importance and considerable intricacy; and, in his opinion, the manner in which it had been met was the only means of obviating the danger which would have resulted had it been less resolutely dealt with. The Right Hon. Baronet had been repeatedly taunted upon the severity which he had exercised on that occasion; but his conduct then, even if it had been reprehensible, had now been amply compensated for by the boon which he had offered to the Irish people. Hon. Members might discuss the question of the Oregon territory at their leisure, but he would remind them that there were many political Oregons in Ireland, the boundaries of which had not yet been settled. And this wrong headed policy of curtailing and restricting the rights of Ireland had been pursued for centuries. Against that policy the Government of this country would now contend only by following such a course as the Right Hon. Baronet was pursuing. —(Hear, hear.) He trusted that the Right Hon. Baronet would go on, and he was sure that it' he did so, he would secure to this country the entire affections of the people of Ire land—(Cheers)—and render the connexion of Ireland with this country a bond of strength, instead of a mark of opprobrium and subjection.—(Hear.) Sir V. BLAKE, at great length, supported the mea sure of the Government, whose policy he defended with great warmth. But he was heard very imperfectly in deed, and many passages of his speech, which excited great merriment in the House, were entirely lost to the gallery. We understood him to conclude by recom mending the establishment of a second university in Dublin, without interfering with the privileges of that which now exists. Lord INGESTRE rose simply to give his vote for this grant. He would frankly confess that if the vote had come from the other side of the House that he should have opposed it, because he had seen, in their conduct when on the Ministerial side of the House, a truckling to public opinion which he should ever oppose. But the contrary was.the case with the present Ministry. They had vindicated the supremacy of the law, and then they proposed measures for the 'pacification of Ireland. He had always been an advocate for what was called justice to Ireland, and he had given a vote, though a silent one, against the grant, for he felt that it was so small as to enable the Roman Catholic priests to teach mischief without any corresponding power to do good. He would have preferred a modification of the term, and would have liked to have a definite period fixed for the grant. Three years would certainly be too short a time for taying the effect of the experiment, but five or seven years might have been so. As, however, he had no opportunity of availing himself of this advantage he should vote for the grant as it stood on the motion. Air. LAWSON moved the adjournment of the debate. Mr. RE DINGTON opposed the adjournment. Mr. LAWSON said that there were several gentlemen who wished to address the House, and it was clearly impossible to finish the debate that night. He had him self endeavoured to catch the Speaker's eye early in the evening, and should desire to state his opi n i ons , w hi c h he could not do that night. Lord MOSELEY opposed the adjournment Sir R. INGLIS approved of the adjournment. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL thought the debate ought to proceed for an hour or two yet. Mr. HINDLEY said that it was not fair to charge the opponents of the measure with not having come for ward to express their opinions that evening, especially after the extraordinary opinion advanced by the Hon. Member for Honiton.. _ Sir - R. PEEL would not oppose the adjournment, al though he thought it better to continue it for another hour or two. If they were to do so he was convinced that any Hon. Member who wished to address the House would have a fair and patient hearing from a full House. He (Sir R. Peel) would v en t ure to pred i ct that from five till nine o'clock next evening the House would be comparatively empty, and he thought that sufficient time for :he consideration o f thi,. question, whieh was to be seen in the diminished a:-;itation egainst the measure. Lord INGESTRE said he was much surprised at the statement of the Hon. Ilember for Wallingford, for he could not discover what conrFxion there was be tween his (Lord Ingestre's) speech and the question of adjournment. LUNATIC ASYLUMS. Sir T. FREMANTLE, after a short discussion, in which Messrs. Redington and Grogan took part, ob tained leave to bring in a Bill for establishing a central asylum for lunatics, and to amend - the Act for the lunatic asylums in Ireland, which was read a first time, and or dered to be read a second time this day - week. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adiourred at half-past twelve o'clock. RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) Group V. THE MIDLAND RAILWAY EXTENSIONS. The Committee sat this morning at the usual hour to hear further evidence in the case of the NEWARK AND SHEFFIELD LINE. Mr. Mansfield Mills was first called—He was land-agent to Mr. Arbright, an extensive land owner at Sutton. Mr. Ar bright had perhaps some 5,000 acres of coal-field in the neigh bourhood of the proposed line, which would greatly increase in value, and do good to the country generally, by lowering the price of coals to Newark and other place. They could then supply coal to the towns on the line for ss. 6d. a ton. The only means at present of g e tti ng coals from these fields was by the Midland Junction, at Chesterfield, and that in volved a four miles' conveyance by waggon. If the line went more to the east it would be carried away from these coal fields, and do. only good to the Duke of Devonshire, whose coals at Stavely were of a very inferior quality. Edward Newbatt, land-agent to the Marquis of Bristol at Sleaford, spoke to the advantages which the present line would afford to the country generally. William Gregory, coal merchant, Stavely, deposed that the price of Stavely coals were in some cases increased 4s. a ton by carriage, and in others 10s. The proposed line would give a better quality at a much lower price. It would in crease the traffic in iron, in linseed-oil, and in rapecake. Cross-examined by Mr. CALVERT—The iron trade would come from Duplington to New. rk, and if the line were car ried on to Newark it would greatly increase the trade. Mr. Bishop was employed to make a return of the probable traffic from actual observation,. and the result gave to the railway, after deducting the working expenses, a clear profit of 45,290/. 2s. ld. per annum. Mr. George Sanderson laid on the table a return of the number of assents and dissents from the owners, lessees, &c., on the line. The great majority of them were in favour of the railway. Mr. Joseph Gibbs, civil engineer, was next examined— The line had been laid out under his direction, and he be lieved it was the best that could have been made be tween Chesterfield and Newark. The gradients and curves were very favourable, there being only one heavy gradient, namely, one in 100 on the extent of the line. The radius of the least curve was about half a mile, and there were three tunnels on the line; but the strata was very fa vourable to the engineering operations. The length of the line was 32 miles 6 furlong:, the length of the first tunnelling 440 yard , , and of the others 286 yards and 396 yards. There would be a connexien at Chesterfield with the Midland j Railway, which would continue the traffic line on to Sheffield. There were some heavy cuttings after leaving Chesterfield, but they were very short, and nearly equalled in proportion the quantity of embanking required in other places. The traffic in lime and stone on the line would be very great, as the railway would not only open up the coal fields, but also the great limestone beds of the district. There were only two highways crossed upon a level. The cost of the line was estimated at 471,253/. This was only calculated for a single line of rails, although land was taken for a double line, so that if the Board of Trade should at an after period require such, there would be no difficulty in laying them. This cost averaged 14,389/. per mile. Mr. Josh. Gibbs, cross-examined by Mr. WHATELE; Q.C. —He had examined north of Hardwick, but considered that the country was not feasible for this line, as, among other objections, it would require a tunnel beneath Hardwick Park, and completely throw the line out of the coal-fields. He was not aware of any agreement entered into by the Company with Lord Middleton or Mr. Sutton, of Kildham, to have the line deviate in other ways than as laid down in he plan. Captain Sir James Salmon, the Chairman of the Pro • visional Committee of the Newark and Shtffield line, put in the agreement signed by Lord Middleton, the Hon. Manners Sutton, and the Committee. The agreement ordered that in the event of the opposition of these gentlemen to this line being withdrawn the promoters pledged themselves to make an application next session to rarliament for a deviation in such part of the line as would suit all parties. Mr. WHATELEY before cross-examining Captain Salmon, would ask the Committee whether under these circumstances this Bill should not stand over till next session ? The Committee decided that the objection was not fatal to the progress of the Bill. Captain Salmon cross-examined — He was not aware that any money arrangements had been come t o b etween L o rd Middleton, Mr. Sutton, and the Committee. Mr. W. Cubitt, civil engineer, had examined the plans and sections of the proposed line. He had heard Mr. Gibbs' evidence, and he thought it was quite likely that the railway could be constructed within the estimate. Cross-examined by Mr. WIIATELEY—There would be no danger in having an incline of 1 in 100 for a quarter of a mile, before coming on to the North Midland line. The heaviest carriages could be stopped within a distance of 400 yards. Mr. Venue, civil engineer, and Mr. Hawkshaw, corrobo rated the opinions of Mr. Cubitt and Mr. Gibbs. The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow. Group DD. THE CALEDONIAN, ANI) THE GLASGOW, DUM FRIES, AND CARLISLE RAILWAYS. The Committee re-assembled this morning hall.an hour before the usual time, and immediately proceeded with the Bills before them. Mr. SANDFORD commenced by examining Mr. Headley, gas engineer, who stated that he had erected numerous gas works in various parts of the Continent, and had been consulted by most of the important gas companies in Great Britain. He had paid particular attention to im proving the illuminating powers of gas, and had eventually succeeded. The Caledonian Company had recently em ployed him in examining the quality of the gas coal to be obtained from the Wilsoetown mines. He had analysed some of this coal, and after having converted it into gas had exactly ascertained its value or illuminating properties, The result of his experiments proved that the coal was well adapted for producing gas of the best quality, and in consi derable quantities. The quantity of gas which it gave was 10,000 cubic feet per ton, and its illuminating power was superior to any Cannel coal lie had ever seen. It was supe rior to the gas coal at present consumed in London in propor tion of 3,000 tons to 1,000 tons of the Wilsontown coals. The coal from Wilsontown was very difficult to be obtained in London on account of the expense of importing it, and the generally insufficient quantities in which it was brought. He had made a statistical inquiry into the amount of gas coal consumed annually in London, and found the result was 400,000 tons. He considered that if the Caledonian Railway were made the Wilsontown coal, which, in his opinion. was superior to any other description of coal for Educing gas, could be obtained in London at a much cheaper rate, and in larger quantities than at present. Mr. Smith of Deanston, w as ne xt examined, generally, as to the mineral fields of Lanarkshire, and the value of the .and necessary to be taken for the purposes of the railway. He went rather minutely into the details for the expenses of ground for the branches, &c., and the gross result was 120,000/., which amount included agricultural damage, buildings, and every possible cotingency. Mr. Locke, the eminent engineer, was next examined by Mr. Cocuourtst—He deposed that he had on several occa sions surveyed the district now under consideration. The first survey was made in the year 1836 ; and he had subsequently at various intervals gone over the line, with a view to making more extended communications. He was perfectly well acquainted with the _country, acd had made a report on the subject of his survey to the Commis sioners appointed by Government, and would still abide by the opinion which he had given in that report in every particular. There had been some trifling deviation since made, but no material alteration had been substituted. He had no hesitation in saying that a line possessing equal faci lities with the proposed Caledonian could net be obtained at a similar outlay of capital. There would be no difficulties in the construction of the works. On the contrary, they were excseedingly light, there being only one severe gradient on the entire line. This was at a place called Beattock, and the whole gradient being subdivided, would give a result of three smaller gradients consisting of 1 in 75, 1 in 80, and 1 in 100. It was proposed to have an assistant engine constantly there. More favourable gradients than those mentioned could not be obtained without making a great sacrifice of capital, and there would also be great diffi culty experienced in finding them ; and, further, the inconvenience of working the line would be increased if other gradients were adopted. A con siderable change in public opinion had taken place in modern times with regard to the nature of gradients. It was formerly considered that a gradient of 1 in 500 was quite steep enough for a locomotive, ,and subsequently 1 in 300 was usually estimated as the maximum. The severity of gradients had been gradually increased, and in fact had grown in proportion as the power of the steam-engine had been improved. Locomotives were now managed on steep gradients with as much facility as they were formerly worked on very easy ones. Mr. Locke then instanced several exist ing lines were there were more severe gradients than any of those proposed on the Caledonian Railway. The increase of expense for an assistant engine would be amply compensated for by the extra convenience and facility which would be afforded, and, generally speaking, it was advisable to h are a stationar y engine on certain di s t ances along the line, asthey were useful not only in assisting the train, but also in case of accidents. He could anticipate no difficulty in the descent of. the carriages dpwn the inclined plane. With regard to the Caledonian trunk line it was, in his opinion, the only line that would be most convenient and generally beneficial for the interests of the people of Scot land, and it would offer the greatest facilities for the purpose of connecting the cities of Edinburgh and Glasgow with the south. The direct communication and shortness of the line would effect a great saving both in time and ex pense. Two lines were unnecessary and almost imprac ticable,would n_ ot . only entail a -very great as they expense, but would be highly inconvenient. The Caledonian line would offer every facility for extending collateral branches, owing to its central position. The Glasgow, Dum fries, and Carlisle Railway, which was the competing line, goes round about, and the difference in point of distance ex ceeds 23 miles, which would occasion a loss in point of time. The gradients on the Caledonian line could be worked at a decided advantage over those on the opposing line without entailing any increased expense on the passen gers or traffic. He had seen the section of the proposed Howick line, and considered it vastly inferior to the Caledo nian Railway, as it would not answer one-third of the purposes which the Caledonian proposed to realise. With respect to the proposed extension through Peebles and Gallowshiels, the com parative merits of the two lines were considerablyin favour of the Caledonian. The distance of the Caledonian Railway from Car lisle and the Scottish Central Railway, was 106 miles. The dis tance by the Clydesdale line was about4o additional miles, and by the flowick line would be considerably increased. Under these circumstances, therefore, in his opinion, neither of the two last-mentioned schemes could be compared with the Caledonian. Since the Railway Commisioners had reported in favour of that line he had made some slight alterations in the sections. One alteration had been made on the Castlecary branch, and consisted in taking the line to the north side of the Pentland Hills, by which change a more facile communication had been obtained to the mineral fields in that district, and a considerable saving of expense in land had been also effected. Another alteration had been made on the site of the terminus at Edinburgh, and a better station had been obtained, which had met with the general approbation of the inhabitants. The proprietors of the various lines with which it was proposed to effect a communication had been consulted, and a general satisfac tory arrangement had been entered into with them. These Companies had agreed to render their lines subordinate to the • Caledonian Railway, to alter the gauge of their rails, and also always to allow the preference to the trains belonging to the Caledonian Company. In addition to the alterations on the original plans previously alluded to, he had proposed a branch to Dumfries, which town he considered would be materially benefited by a railway communication with Edin burgh as well as with Glasgow • and neither of the prop ose d opposing lines w ou ld connect Dumfries with Edinburgh. The termini of the Caledonian Railway were most conveniently situated at Edinburgh, Glasgow, and Carlisle. lie hadloirna it impracticable to form a junction with the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway station at Edinburgh, owing to the die culty of the level ; but it was possible to make use of part of the Edinburgh line at Castlecary. Mr. Locke expressed his satisfaction with the estimate* and stated that the works, including every contingency, had been contracted for by Messrs. Stephenson, M•kenzie, and Brassey, and there was no doubt whatever that those gentlemen would complete the works within the esti mate. The cost for making the excavations and embankments was calculated at 536,0001. The expense of masonry and for erecting viaducts was 342,286/. ; fences, sleepers, and laying down the rails, would cost 293,3407., which items, added together, would give a result of 1,289,4401., from which ten per cent. was to be deducted for contingencies. Then there was the expense of rails arid chains, 410,4871. ; for land and buildings., 120,000/. would be required; for stations, 90,0001. ; and for working plants, &c., 130,000/. The surplus, which would amount to 60,071/., would be devoted to paying law expenses, obtaining the Act of Parliament, &c. The total amount of these sums was 810,4801., which, being added to the former large result, would give a grand total of upwards of 2,100,000/. The working expenses of the line were esti mated at 95,696/., and tolls and payments to existing lines would be 11,342/. more. The total working expenses would be 107,0381. Mr. Locke was cross-examined by Sir THOMAS Pirmurs on behalf of the Edinburgh and Glasgow Company, and by Mr. HOPE on behalf of landowners on the line; but the prin cipal features of his evidence remained unaltered. Mr. M. Wood, civil engineer, was next called by Mr. TALBOT.—He stated he had examined into the merits of the Caledonian, and the Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Rail-, ways, and was decidedly of opinion that the former line was preferable, on account of the convenience which it would afford to the through traffic as well as to the local traffic. The difference in the expense of working the two lines was 12,000/. annually in favour of the Caledonian. He was fully prepared to concur with Mr. Locke in all that that gentleman had stated with regard to the expenses and capabilities of the proposed line. Mr. Collister, civil engineer, was then examined in brief as to the estimates and plans, but his evidence was only a recapitulation of what had previously fallen from Mr. Locke. Mr. Brassey, of the firm of Messrs. Stephenson, M'Kenzie, and Brasses', said that he had estimated the expense of con structing the line at 1,275,000/., at which sum he had agreed to undertake the work. Mr. TALnor then announced, after the examination of 38 witnesses, that the case for the promoters of the Caledonian line was at length concluded. The formal proofs were then put in by Mr. Grahame, the Parliamentary agent, and the Committee adjourned until half-past eleven to-morrow. Group F. This Committee met to-day at twelve o'clock, in room No. 11; present the Right Hon. F. Shaw, Chairman, Mr. V. Stuart, Mr. Lockhart, Mr. Braainton, and Mr. Drummond. THE LONDON, WORCESTER, AND SOUTH STAF- FORDSHIRE RAILWAY. Mr. R. Stephenson, engineer, examined by Mr. Hors—ls engineer to the London, Worcester, and South Staffordshire Railway. The line commences on part of the London and Birmingham Railway. It then diverges on to Aylesbury, and branches off to Oxford, then to Rugby, and on to Wolverhampton. The engineering difficulties on the line were not very great. v There is a very high tract of country at Dudley. The Stourbridge Valley line will open up a connexion between some very importantcoal ,, fields at that place. At present they afford it eommunieation by the Sedgley branch of the line. The approach to the town of Dudley, near Netherton, we ascend by a tunnel passing under the town of Dudley, leaving Baster' on the right. With regard to Dudley, it is already contemplated by the canal to have a communication from that plot* to Birmingham. There was a project called the Birmingham and Shrewsbury Line, which would compete with the present line. It was thrown out in the Standing Orders Committee, and it is now before this Committee as a competing project. At Bicester the line would complete the advantages of the branch line. Aylesbury, to Bicester and Buckingham, would afford every accommodation to the traders on the line. The system pursued by the Great Western, commencing at Droitwich, leaves many towns wholly untouched, and it faces the high ground which we avoid at Dudley ; the lines come almost at a parallel. With regard to a line from Wolverhampton to Dudley, they are trying to come to an arrangement. At Alesowen are most ex tensive coal-fields not yet worked to any extent. A branch to the eastward of the Staffordshire line, about two miles distant from that line, will open up that traffic, which will be most important to that part of the country. Had heard much of the difference of gauge. He had made many experiments himself. On the Canterbury and Whitstable Hee he had tried to remedy the break c. f gauge. but the trouble was so great it was abandoned. The change of gauge was most objectionable, and we give the canals a decided preference for goods traffic. As far as lie had any knowledge the remedying of the break of gauge by loose •, body carriages would never answer, for it would require two stations to work them. The Great Western Company con templated laying down a narrow gauge from Worcester to Wolverhampton. They intended laying it down by the side of the other guage on their line, and it will consequently afford but local accommodation. To do this they will be obliged to have two stations, one for the broad gauge and one for the narrow gauge. With reference to these lines regarding the accommodation to the country, the promoters' line was the best adapted for the traffic of the country. The present. line from the Euston-square station to Wor cester was 1214 miles. With regard to the speed on the broad and narrow gauge, there was no difference. The speed on the narrow gauge was equally as quick as the broad gauge. On the Northeru and Eastern Railway fur the last two years that Company went at the rate of 55 miles an hour. That was a rate of speed which he (Mr. Stephenson) did not fancy for his own travelling. The public on that line, however, liked it. The quickest rate of travelling now was 112 miles in three hours and thirty seven minutes. He understood the nature of engine making, and he could construct an engine which would do 112 miles in two hours and fifteen minutes. On the Loudon and Birmingham line they were lengthening the engines for the purpose of speed. Had examined the estimates, which were formed by him. The estimate from London to Worcester is 2,732,8771. This included all the branches up to that place. There was some opposition to the line from a few of the landowners on the line. The damage they would sustain would not be re sidential, it would be agricultural, and there was no injury which could be done but would be met by a fair system of compensation. Lord Sandys' property, a little above Worcester, we touch— some of his Lordship's meadow land about 50 feet below a large precipice. We are also opposed by a Mr. Hodges: Foley. That gentleman's property was bounded on each, side by canals. One canal came between the railway and a considerable portion of his property. Would rather that gentleman state his own grievances. Mr. Mantz, a landowner at Worcester, examined—The line of railway would pass his residence within 50 feet.. Knew. the house very well, it was called the Commandre, and is of the Elizabethan style. The house was very low, sunk in a valley, and the trains would pass on overlooking the house. Knew of a case almost similar, it was that of a railway passing within forty feet of a clergyman's house, and overlooking it at a height of 14 feet. That gentleman got compensation, but as the works progressed he found the annoyance was not so great as he at first anticipated, and he did not remove his family, but kept the compensation.—(Laughter.) The CHAIRMAN—Mr. Mantz, do you oppose the Great Western line? Mr. Mantz—No, Sir, Ido not object to that line. It does not touch my property, and that line is the most popular with the people of Worcester. Cross-examination continued—We could not avoid -going near your property ; it, would compel us to cross a main road. After some further cross-examination, the Committee ad journd till twelve o'clock to-morrow. Group X. LONDON AND YORK LINE. The Committee appointed to dispose of the li nes compre hended in group assembled, pursuant to adjournment, this day in Committee-room No. 8, and proceeded to hear evidence in reference to the London and York projected line. The Earl of Lincoln was the first witness examined. His evidence was to the effect that, he was well acquainted with the line now under consideration of the Committee, and he was decidedly of opinion that the project would be most im portant and beneficial in its results to a vast district of country n that neighbourhood. The next witness called was Mr. Welby, M.P., for Grantham. He deposed that it would be important to have a line of communication be tween Grantham and Boston, and also between Newark and Sheffield. Therefore it would be of importance that a western line of communication should be made. But the Grantham line would be the most important in the first instance. A line of communication between Newark, Nottingham, and Lincoln would also be necessary. To the Committee—A line of communication by railway, between London and York, would also be very important; but witness's opinion on those projects had been formed in dependent of considerations of expense. Mr. T. Brainsford, a resident for thirty years in the neigh bourhcod of Nottingham, gave evidence as to the ex tensive traffic in corn between that district and Wales. Twenty-five years ago there was not more corn grown in that district than would be sufficient to support the in habitants; but of late it had become a very extensive ex porting county, and the ;farmers had to waggon their pro duce sixteen miles, and to bring back coals, &c., by the same way. The London and York line would open the whole of that farming county on to Rugby, for he had no doubt the London and York Company would form a branch to Rugby, for the country afforded every facility for so doing, there not being a fall of more than forty feet the whole of the five miles. In cross-examination he said he did not think a line could be made at the east side of the river, as the nature of the country was such as to afford no facilities. The London and York line passed nearer to his land than the proposed Grimsby and Spitsby and Boston lines. Sir M. Cholmondely said he had given the different proposed projected lines through Lincolnshire a great deal of attention, and was well acquainted with the nature of that part of the country. His opinion was, that, considering the present, as a national project, it would be of great ser vice to all that district. All the towns in the southern district had become the depots of the agricultural produce of that district. The nature of the country in the southern district was a light soil, and required a vast deal of manure, and therefore it would be much sent to get it cheap by railway. Bark was alsoo h m h sent through that part of the country , and was a very sent y article. From the north of Lincolnshire the f a rme r s heav y their beasts by . Rotherham to Wakefield. Cross-examined—A line between Boston, Nottingham, and Lincoln, would be of importance , but witness was not orn • London and York petent to speak fully on the subject. The Company had not proposed to make any line from the east of Lincolnshire to Nottingham. Mr. Isaac Dodds, merchant, of Spalding— There are about 38,000 tons of coals annually brought into that town, of which 28,000 tons are consumed in the neighbour hood. The coals are brought from districts through which the present proposed line would pass, and thus materially facilitate the transit, and reduce the expense. The country around Spalding was a very extensive corn-growing district, and the communication between it and Bosten was considerable. A line of communication between Boston and Lincoln and Stafford would be of great im portance. Cross-examined—A westward line of communication would also be of importance. Mr. Charles Anderson, son of Sir Charles Anderson, re sides near Gainsborougb. The direct northern li ne wou ld be the most advantageous to him and his brother person ally; but the London and York would be the most advan tage to the public, because it would afford modes of commu nication to a great number of important towns in the district through which it would pass. r Cross -examined—It wou ld b e desirable to have a line be -1 tween Lincoln and London and Peterborough ; but the pro posed line would be four miles shorter than the line proposed by Cambridge. Could not say whether a line between Lincolnshire and Cambridgeshire would be of importance. Mr. W. Mann, of the Boston Provincial Bank, was the next witness, but his testimony was precisely of the same character and tendency as that of Mr. Anderson. Mr. Gooch deposed as to the amount of traffic going on at present in corn, sheep, &c., between the different towns pro posed to be brought into communication with each other by the proposed London and fork line; and the Committee then adjourned. Group R. This group assembled for the first time this morning, Mr. Beckett Denison in the chair. The Committee has to con sider the following lines : The Dublin and Drogheda —The Dublin and Belfast Junction—The Ulster Extension—The Newry and Ennis• killen—The Dundalk and Enniskillen—The Great North Western. The Ulster Extension Railway was the first one gone into. It is proposed to be formed from the termination of the Ulster line to Armagh. It is an unopposed line. Mr. Goodwin, the engineer of the line, was shortly examined respecting the engineering features of the undertaking, which he represented to be generally of a favourable character. The cuttings were moderate, and the gradients unexceptionable. There were several roads proposed to be crossed at the level, but the traffic on them was inconsiderable, with the exception of one at Portadown. With respect to the latter, it would be impossible to cross it without resorting to extensive cut tings and embankments. The inhabitants had held public meetings, at which they had determined not to oppose the railway, as the advantages to them were held to be of the greatest importance. Mr. Grear, a magistrate of the counties of Down and Ar magh, was next examined. He was one of the original projectors of the Ulster Railway, and one of the Board of Directors. The preseat line was very much desired by all the inhabitants of Monaghan, Down, and Armagh. This line was a necessary one to complete the communication between Enniskillen and Belfast. The traffic along the course of the line in butter, eggs, and pigs, he held would be very great. The Ulster Railway, with which this is to be connected, pays from sto 6 per cent. The weekly receipts were 6001., and the opening of the branch, he thought, would make it up to 1,000/. The fares on the Ulster line were about half of the English ones. The charges were—first-class passengers, lid. per mile ; second-class, Id. ; and third-class, 2-3 d. There were six trains a day, and each of them took third class passengers. Evidence was called respecting the present traffic of the road between Armagh and Portadown, which it was alleged would be greatly increased by the proposed railway, when the Committee decided the preamble to be proved. The clauses of the Bill were then gone into, and clauses Ito 10 agreed to. The Committee then passed on to the consideration of the 35th, which was opposed by Mr. Burke, on the part of the Marquis of Hertford. It was in relation to the Directors, the Noble Lord desiring that three of the Directors should reside in or about Lisburn, being a similar clause to one in the Ulster Railway Act. In the present Bill that clause had been expunged, and a fresh one introduced, without any restrictions as to the appoint ment of Directors as far as residence was concerned. Mr. AUSTIN was heard in reply on behalf of the Company, when the room was cleared. On oar return, the CHAIRMAN intimated that the clause proposed by Mr. Burke had been adopted by the Committee. The further consideration of the clauses was postponed till to-morrow. Group G. BRISTOL AND EXETER BRANCHES. The Committee, consisting of Mr. Liddell, Chairman. Mr. Christopher, Sir E. Hayes, Mr. R. Yorke, and Mr. Entwisle, re-assembled this morning at twelve o'clock. The evidence in favour of the preamble having been gone through, the Committee met to consider it; but Mr. MERE, agent for Lady Georgians Fane, appeared on the part of her Ladyship, who presented a petition upon the Bill. It appeared that the petition of her Ladyship was not presented three clear days before the Committee met; and the Committee, under those circumstances, were in doubt whether they could entertain the petition without the con sent of the House of Commons. The Chairman and Mr. R. Yorke went to see the Speaker on the subject, and on their return, The CHAIRMAN said that he had to state that the parties who appeared on the petition were in good time, but if the parties appearing for the petition were not now prepared to go on, it could hardly be expected that the Committee would adjourn for their convenience. The ques tion stood thus :—The Committee had only met before on a project and did not sit formally upon it as a Bill till to-day, because the standing orders came in after the resolutions of the House. Though it might be considered in the first in stance as a project, it could not be considered as a Bill till seven clear days after the second reading. It was held that, in all cases of this nature, if the petition was presented three clear days before the Select Committee entertained the consideration of the Bill as a Bill such peti tics was in plenty of time. Mr. THERE said that as he was now in time he would beg to hear the evidence given in favour of the preamble. Mr. AUSTIN said that the evidence had been already gone through, and it was the duty of those who ap peared for the petition to be there when it was given. It could hardly be expected that they, after complying with the resolutions of the House of Commons and given evidence in favour of the project, should now be called on to go over that evidence a second time. The Committee must suppose that the witnesses were gone home. But as they did not wish to make any formal allegations, he was ready to call evidence against that which he must call an ill-advised peti tion. The Learned Gentleman then read the petition, which stated that she received no notice of the intended line, and that it would injure and spoil her demesne. Mr. Savory and Mr. Ward were then called, and gave evi dence against the petition. They stated that notice had been given, and that the line was nearly or altogether the same as the line which had projected in 1537, to which no objection was taken by her Ladyship. Mr. Ward stated that he did not call upon any of her ladyship's tenants and repre sent to them that her ladyship was favourable to the line in order to get their signature. Mr. Brunel was then called, and the purport of his evidence was that the proposed line would not injure the house or demesne of Lady Fane; that it was not nearer than three eighths of a mile, and could not even be seen from the house of her Ladyship. Mr. Giles, C. E., and Mr. Batten, were called on the part of the petitioner. The former stated that a better and a cheaper line might, in his opinion, be constructed along the river Yoe. _ _ _ The Committee having consulted for a short time, they de cided that the preamble was proved. The Committee then went on to consider the clauses. Group L. The Committee on Group L, comprising Mr. Becket De nison, Chairman ; Lord Clive, Mr. Oswald, Mr. Milne, and Mr. Vyvian, sat this morning in Room No. 16. Having arranged the order of business, the Guildford Junc tion Bill, which was unopposed, was gone through, and or dered to be reported. GUILDFORD, CHICHESTER, AND PORTSMOUTH RAILWAY. Mr. CocKnuleN was retained for the promoters of the line, and opened the proceedings by stating that the only means of commurication between London and Portsmouth was by the South Western Railway to Bishopstoke, and then by a branch to Portsmouth. This was a distance of 87 miles, and occa sioned a considerable detour. The Directors of the present line had purchased the Guildford Junction Railway, and it was intended to carry on by Godalming and Haslemere to Chichester. Guildford was not only the county town, but also the centre of a great agricultural district, and the coun try to the south of Chichester was a considerable grazing country, and if the stock or produce was not sold at Chi chester or Guildford might be rushed on to London. The distance of Chichester from London was 62 miles, and to Portsmouth 77 miles. One of the peculiar features of this railway was, that on reaching Havant it put out a line to Fareham, and by its corn munication with the South-Western Railway, formed the coast communication for which there was already a Bill before Parliament, in order to carry on the line to Dorches ter. It was intended to make the terminus at Portsea, mediately connected with the docks, and there it would not interfere with property of any particular value. The line was supported chiefly by the South-Western Railway, who were its original proprietors, and to whom the line would ultimately be leased. This circumstance rendered the line not so popular in Portsmouth as it ought to be, for ever since the Di rectors of the South Western line had selected Southampton instead of Portsmouth for their terminus, there had been a jealousy in the' inhabitants of Portsmouth of any scheme which the South Western Company might project. After a little conversation in which the Chairman stated his objection to receive the report of the Board of Trade, who had expressed a favourable opinion of the line, as any influential testimony, Mr. Cockburn read portions of the report, in order to bring the comparative merits of the lines to Portsmouth fairly before the Committee. From this it appeared that there were on the 65 planes gradients of 1 in 80, extending over 14 miles 29 chains ; 19 planes of 1 in 100, and the greater portion of the remainder of 1 in 200, whereas on the Guildford, Chichester, and Ports mouth line, there were four planes of 1 in 100, extending over four miles, and 70 chains, 6 planes of 1 in 100 extending over seven miles, 30 chains, and four extending over fifty miles from 1 in 100 to 110, and the remainder not more than 1 in 200. The respective tunnelling of the two lines was 3,717 yards on the Guildford, Chichester, and Portsmouth Line, and 4,234 yards on the Portsmouth Direct Line The extent of railway which would have to be made was in the latter line 69 miles 10 chains, and in the former only 51 miles 60 chains. The distance to London by the Direct Portsmouth would be to Hungerford-bridge 77 miles, while by the other it would be to London-bridge 79 miles, and by Stephenson's line 81 miles. From Chichester (the only important town short of Portsmouth) to London, the distance would be 80 miles, while by the other it would be only 62 miles. By the formation of the Guildford, Chichester, and Portsmouth line, the whole length of communication on the coast line, by the electric telegraph, would be completed, while if the Direct Portsmouth line were adopted, it would be altogether interrupted. The Direct Portsmouth Company proposed to work their line on the atmospheric principle, but the advantage s of this princi ple at present was mere speculative opinion. In c t h h ic e h e e s s - t e e n r t , of its proving a sound principle , the Guildford, and Portsmouth Company were quite ready to place them selves at the disposal of any . branch of the Government, in order to convert the line into an atmospheric railway. Another advantage in favour of the South-Western project was, that it had already expended 400,0001. in the formation of the Bishopstoke line. Mr. Marshall, a gentleman in business at Godalming, and who also farmed a good deal of land in the neighbour hood, testified to the facility which the formation of this rail way would afford to the trade of Godalming and Guildf or d , and especially in the conveyance of timber out of Sussex. Competition would be excited between the Wey and Arran Canal and the railway, and thus a saving in carriage would be effected to the public. The cost to London wadasmaitbllhoseuartbeo9i at . rhe ton, present i e t o t m o o m k u t n h i r c e a e t o o n r fourTh There eys were to several Godalming and Guildford which ground for the London market. The country about Chichester was a grazing country, and great facility would be afforded by the pro posed railway for the conveyance of fat cattle to the great markets, and in procuring coals, foreign timber, a n d o il- ca k e for feeding cattl e , a great advantage would also be obtained. In all these matters, therefore, the formation of the railway wou ld b e a publ ic b ene fi t, and, for himself, a saving of some thousands a year would be effected in preventing the neces sity of hiring horses for the carriage of his goods. Mr. Sergeant TALFOURD appeared for a Committee of the inhabitants of Portsmouth, and stated that petitionshad been presented to both the Houses of Parliament, signed by 10,000 individuals, and that the very great majority of the inhabit ants of that town were opposed to this line and in favour of , the other. Mr. GURNEY opposed the hearing of counsel of parties whom he contended had no right to appear on the ground of its being contrary to the usage of Parliament. The Committee having decided that Mr. Sergeant Tar,- FOURD should be heard, he proceeded to cross-examine Mr. Marshall, who replied that London• bridge would be an i 132.• practicable place for the deposit of timber, and that Vauxhall was a much more convenient site. To the cross-examination of Mr. Rawlinson, Mr. MA RS/IAM stated that he was a Director in the proposed line, and a shareholder in the South-Western line, but that he held three or four times that amount of property in river and canal shares. To the renewed examination of Mr. GURNEY, Mr. Marshall replied that the distance by the Direct Portsmouth Line from Godalming to London would be forty miles, while by the other line the distance would be thirty-three miles. The number of the inhabitants of Petersfield was about 1,500, while the population of Chichester was 10,000 or 12,0000, and the trade between Godalming and Chichester was much greater than that between the former town and Petersfield. Mr. Mangles, M.P., testified to the necessity of communica tion between Guildford and Chichester by railway, and stated that a company had been formed for that purpose last autumn through whose direction the line was to be surveyed. The whole of the district was richly cultivated, and tl:4 traffic would be chiefly derived from the south country, while the atmospheric line passed from Chichester to Portsmouth through one of the poorest and most desolate tracts of the country. The proposed line would be a much greater convenience to Guild ford market than - the direct Portsmouth. This was of im portance, as Guildford market was perhaps the highest corn market in the south of England. Godalming and Guildford were opposing places, but the greatest ad vantage would be obtained for both places b 7 the Guildford, Chichester, and Portsmouth Railway. He had not personally ascertained the population of the district through which the atmospheric line passed, but repeated his impres sion that that part of the country was barren and deficient of inhabitants. The other line, on the contrary, went through a country rich and well peopled. Mr. Edmund Nicholls, a tanner and currier at Guildford, having a tanyard at Midron, and another in the town of Go dalming, said he had a considerable business there, buying his hides in London and his bark in the neighbourhood cf Godalming. He consumed about 13 tons of bark per week. The country was hilly, and the tolls heavy ; and look ing both to purchases and sales, the proposed railway would be in his estimation a great convenience, both to him self and the neighbourhood generally. Godalming contained about 4,000 inhabitants, and near to it were several large mansions and demesnes. The line of railway would pass be tween Godalming and Westbrook, the seat of Mr. Dlu.skett, thus cutting off the communication of that house with Godalming; and as a river flowed on two other sides of the property there would be only one side open to the country. But it appeared, from the cross-examination of Mr. Gurney, that the estate was in Chancery ; the house, which for many years had been uninhabited, was in a very dilapidated state, and the communication with the town very bad. The two lines of railway also passed so as to be equally disadvan tageous to the property. Mr. Chennel, official corn-seller at Guildford, stated that the quantity of corn brought to that market varied from 400 to 700 quarters a week. The supply came chiefly from the south, and but little from Petersfield, and his impression was that the intercourse between different parts of the country would be greatly increased, though of course that would to some extent depend on the number of stations. Mr. George Sayers, a waggon-master at Guildford, stated that the carriage through Guildford to London was chiefly for live stock, and the return was for groceries and other similar necessaries. This witness testified to the traffic front the several places in the neighbourhood, and he stated that by far the larger part of it came from Chichester, and but very little from Petersfield, the business at the latter place being trifling. The Committee adjourned till to• morrow, at twelve o'clock Group E. NORTHUMBERLAND (ATMOSPHERIC) LINE. This Committee proceeded this morning to heir the evi dence in favour of the promoters of the Newcastle and Ber wick line, and against the Northumberland (Atmospheric) line. Mr—Bidder's evidence occupied the attention of the Com mittee the entire day. He stated that he had made several experiments from the formula of Mr. Hawkesley, a large gas manufacturer, and he found that on the atmos pheric system they could not procure a vacuum of fifteen inches in less than nine minutes, with two engines of fifty horse power each, and with twenty-two strokes per minute. The greatest speed which could be attained wculd be CS miles an hour. The resistance would be 14 pounds per tor, and the train would meet the same resistance in return. Forty-five tons could be carried at the rate of thirty miles an hour on a level, with a vacuum of fifteen inch• ; thirty tons would be conveyed at the same rate on a gradiet of 1 in WO. Mr. Bidder was then cross-examined by Mr. A.LExAyt)Eit —He did not think that the valve in the piston wou'd k , e any great effect in stopping the train by admitting atm» pheric air. It would not - admit it quick enough. He thought that it would, in certain cases, have the effect of retarding the train ; but in most cases it would not be brought into play at all. He never saw a piston fitted with valves for retarding. The revolving power was objected to; it wore the engine. They were obliged to use it passing stations, but they always avoided it when it was possible. He adopted Mr. Hawkesley's formula, and it was on that be founded all his experiments, the application of Mr. Stephenson's for mula created what appeared to him to be anomalies, because Mr. Stephenson did not allow sufficient for the friction of the air. When he analysed Mr. Samuda's formula he found the same. He believed Mr. Hawkesley'a formula to be correct, and to account for the anomalies of the formulas of Mr. Stephenson and Mr. Samuda. By Mr. Stephenson's experiments a vacuum of eighteen inches was obtained in three minutes all but two seconds. The leak age depends on the length of the pipe. The experi ments made with respect to the atmospheric resist ance were quoted in Robins's Mechanical Philosophy, and were made many years ago by order of Government. The result of these experiments, he believed, was Mr. Bruners apprehension that he would not be able to attain a high velocity on the atmospheric principle. The Committee then adjourned till Wednesday. NORTHERN RAILWAYS. NEWCASTLE AND DARLINGTON RAILWAY. A general meeting of the proprietors in this Company was held immediately on the conclusion of the special meeting of the York and North Midland Company at the Station, York. Mr. Hudson, Chairman of the Company, presiding at the request of the chairman, Mr. Close, the secretary of the com pany, read the advertisement calling the meeting, who stated the object to be to lay before the meeting a " Bill for making a railway from Newcastle-upon-Tyne to Berwick-upon- Tweed, with branches therefrom, to be called the Newcastle and Berwick Railway," and also the draft of another Bill, intituled " a Bill for enabling the Newcastle and Darlington Junction Company to purchase the Brandling Junction Railway, and to enable the said company to make certain branch railway stations and works, and for other purposes. The Chairman then entered into a statement of the com parative merits of the locomotive and atmospheric prin ciples. The latter, he thought, would not be sufficient to carry the traffic on the proposed line between Newcastle and Berwick. Even Mr. Samuda and Mr. Branel admitted that only forty tons could be carried at a time. He submitted to the meeting a resolution in accordance with these views, which was unanimously carried. After explaining, in an swer to a shareholder, that the Brandling Junction shares would be placed on the same footing with respect to the Newcastle and Darlington, as the Leeds and Selby were with respect to the. York and North Midland, the Chairman pro ceeded to notice some slight opposition on the part of three shareholders, who held amongst them some thirty or forty shares, and then put the resolution approving of the Bill, which was carried unanimeusly. A vote of thanks having been given to the Chairman and the Directors, the meeting separated. YORE AND NORTH MIDLAND RAILWAY. A special general meeting of this Company was held at the Railway station, in York, on Saturday last, for the pur pose of considering the drafts of a series of Bills before Par liament, and now submitted for the approval of the Share holders, agreeably with the provisions of th e s t an di ng or d ers of the House of Lords. The attendance of Shareholders was very numerous. George Hudson, Esq., Chairman of the Board of Direc tors presided. • The CHAIRMAN entered into a statement regarding the dis putes between this Company and the Great North of England Company. He presented four Bills to the meeting con nected with the line, which had all to be considered. The first was a Bill for enabling the York and North Midland Railway Company to alter the line of the York and Scar borough Railway near the city of York. The second, a Bill for enabling the York and North Midland Railway Com pany to make a railway from the line of the Leech; and Selby Railway to Goole. The third, a Bill for enabling the York and York and North Midland Railway Company to make a branch railway from the line of the York and North Mid land Railway to Harrogate. And the fourth, a Bill for en abling the York and North Midland Railway Company to make a branch railway from the lice of the York a n d Scar borough Railway, in the township of Semler, to Bridlington. The CHAIRMAN then submitted the following resolutions : "That this meeting approves of the formation of a branch railway from the York and Scarborough Railway to Pock lington, Market NS eightoh, and Beverley ; and also to Brough, or such other point on the Hull line as may be deemed expedient ; and that the Directors of this Company be authorised to cause the necessary surveys and estimates to be made." " That the Directors be empowered, and this meeting doth hereby authorise them to borrow, under the powers and pro visions of the several Acts of Parliament relating to this Company, such sum or sums of money as they may find necessary for the completion of the works thereby authorised to be made." The resolutions were unanimously agreed to. The CHAIRMAN then referred to the leasing of the Selby and Hull line by this Company, which he thought would be worked with great economy and facility. The trains to Hull would be facilitated by at least half an hour, and at.- rangeinents generally were in progress to benefit that port. The meeting then separated. LLOYD'S SHIPPING. LONDON, MAY 19.—Wind northerly, moderate breeze, and cloudy. SOUTHAMPTON, MAY IS. -- Ski. Trent steamer, West Indies; Paella steamer, Gibraltar. DEAL, MAY 17.—The Queen Victoria, from Newcastle to Hastings, arrived in the Downs, has on board the crew of a vessel which foundered in the Nsrth Sea. PORTSMOUTH, MAY 18.—Wind W.N.W.—Arrd. her Ma jesty's ship Kingfisher, Milford. SOUTHAMPTON, MAY 17.—S1d. Empress, Quebec. OFF DARTMOU Toronto, iarnLox diwo:iE,m:lrcAoTobiruaoai Crawford, MAY oyer; Bombay TR, MAY 15.—Arrd. Rapid, Rib, *Jr Ham burgh (out 42 days); Jean Van Eyck, Rio for Antwerp; 08:111,, brzakayb. Canterbury, —Wind e;th N G . ri NN n ' si n. Malcolm,, Savannah e ns Macao Honduras; rr ; d Royal oii nda Charleston. 16. Sld. Lady Sale, Halifax. 17. Gre ar at asP i r e tE s lan te ng r d' n steamer, New York. 18. Laidmans, Calcutta ; Velocity, Columbia River ; Shannon, Valparaiso ; Helve, Pueta Arenas ; Pomona, Rio Grande ; Cora, Africa ; Lucretia, Barbadoes ' • Diadem, Hayti ; Europ e , S amue l Hi c k s , an d Adi ro ndack. New York ; Asia, Boston ; Belmont, St. John's, New Bruns wick ; Minerva, Halifax ; Lady Falkland, Lord Ashburton, and Malabar, Quebec. MONTROSE, MAY 14.—Arrd. Lord Palmerston, Ichaboe. SUNDERLAND, MAY 17.—S1d. Mary Balmer and Ethel bert, Quebec. SHIELDS, MAY 17.—Sid. Naden, Rio Janeiro. Wnrruv, MAY 17.—Arrd. Pickering, London, with da mage, having been in contact with one of her ligilesty's steamers, off Lowestoff Light, on the 10th inst. SHIELDS, MAY 15.—The Norwegian vessel Holds, is en shore at the lower part of this harbour, but is expected off. PLYMOUTH, MAY 18.—S1d. her Majesty's ship Illelampus, South America; Blomidon, Africa. FALMOUTH, MAY 18—Wind N.N.E. to N., fresh breezes. —Arrd. Penguin packet, Rio, sailed 2d ult. ; on freight 30,0001. in gold, diamonds, &c. 3d L iii n s , t x ., H i ro at o u r. :1 11 0 1 n A . v 33 ,1 GREENLAND FISHERY. Id reports the Straits, arrd. here, has 11,300 seals , al _ Union. Resolu tion with 6,000; Commerce, 6,500; 1 8. —Several licoefbragarrowltoer arrelii4d2-dhanerip.d PETERHEAD, MAY 16.—The Eclipse,Enterprise, 3,ooo;frolm6oa.vaineds 50x); Gleaner, 6,000; Superior, 4,300; ewe, , Hannibal, 7,000. The Mary left Davis' Straita l ,'26th ult., full.