The Sun. — London, England, 1851-07-19 00:00:00

j‘tte• es 4 „ .* 44 a t! , n SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OP' COMMONS. Th• SPEAKER took the Chair at a few minutes past Twelve o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' amendments to the Midland Railway (Ex tension of Time, &c.) Bill, were considered and agreed to. The following Bills were read a third time and passed : Jackson's Estate. Lethbridge's Estate. National Land Company Dissolving. The Duke of Bridgewater's Estate Bill was read a second time. FEES PAID ON THE DOWAG BURIAL OF THE QUEEN ER. On the question for bringing up the report of the Committee of Supnly, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, in reply to Sir Benjamin Hall, thin the sum paid to the P e ru sod Chapter of Windsor as fees for depositing the remains of tho Queen Dowager i n th e vau l ts o f St. St. George's Chapel, was 2201., and not 1,0001. as had been stated. Sir B. HALL thought this was a most disgraceful charge to compel the public to pay. The Government might depend upon it that these disgraceful ecclesiastical peculations would do more to injure the Church in this country than anything else that could be conceived. He hoped the Government would interfere and put a stop to this system of extortion. The dean and chapter were lot content with the enormous income of 53,0001. a year, but must come to the Chancellor of the Exche quer, who had quite enough to do with his money, for the miserable sum ot 220 1 for depositing the remains of one of the Royal Family in their vaults. A very ad mirable representation of the positiou of ecclesiastical affairs was given in the pages of Punch, in w hi c h t he Bishops of London, Oxtord, and Rot:Ater, were exhi bited as frightened at the ghost of the Hon. Member tor Cockermouth, and hastening away with the property of the Church, the Bishop of London baying mark« d on his load the significant sum of 30,000/.—(llear, bear.) When such facts come bef ore t h e public, there would be an unanimous cry from one and ot the country d to the other tor a thorough r e f o rm in the Established Church. He conclud e d by g i v i ng notice that he would move for a return. of th e sums paid to the dean and chapter since 1837 in the shape of fees for the burial of any members of the Royal Family. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER consi dered that tee irregular manner in which the subject bad been brought f o r w ard, was neither creditable t o the H on. Baronet, nor likely to answer any good purpose. These fees were customary charges oii the burial of any of the Royal Family, and in all vaults in the country sums were charged for depositing the remains of the dead. Mr. GLADSTON E observed that ourial fees of this kind had e xisted from time immemorial, which was an important element to be taken into consideration in dis cussing the question which the Hon. Member had bro brought before the House. In case the Hon. Member should proceed with his motion, he hoped be would ask for a return ot all sums received by the dean and ' chapter from the earliest period to which reference could be made. He had rip doubt those gentlemen would be able to defend themselves when an opportunity was afforded them to do so.—(Hear, hear.) DISABILITIES OF COLONIAL CLERGY. Mr. GLADSTONE then called the attentien of the House to the legal disabilities of the colonial bishops, clergy, and laity in communion with the Church of England, in regard to making provision for their internal religious concerns, and inquired into the intentions of her Majesty's Government respecting the removal of those disabilities. The Colonial Church laboured under this difficulty, that they bad neither the powers which a regular constitutior and the machinery of ecclesiastical eating conferred upon the Church at home, neither had they the power of areligious association to make rules and regulatieas for themselves. It was desirable, therefore, that Parliament should proceed as soon as possible to &floe their condition. Last session the House did not sesm inclined to interfere to give such powers to the Australian Church, but since then circumstances had occurred to strengthen his case. In October last the Bishops of Australia met together, but they found that they were not in a condition safely to attempt any mode of proceeding to form rules for the government of their religious community. They agreed, therefor:, that their meeting should stand simply for a private conference. Something of the same sort had happened in the diocese of Toronto in Canada, where the clergy had met together and addressed her Majesty to confer en them the legal right of assembling in Synod. This was a case in which he hoped her Majesty's Government would provide a remedy. Legis lation was not possible in the present session, but her Majesty's Government might give them an assuranc e that they would be left free. Next session her Majesty's Government might bring in a Biil to remove the dis abilities which pressed on the Church of England in the colonies. If they did not, he should feel it his duty to introduce such a measure. Sir DE LACY EVANS complained of the creation of colonial bishops at all nothing but expense and all kinds of difficulties had been caused by them. Colonel :.-,113r11.0RP thought with regard to the fees for the burial of the Queen Dowager, the Chatact lor of the Exchequer, as he had beeefited so lsrgely from free trade, should be mode to pay them out of his owa pocket, which would teach him better for the future. Mr. W. WILLL .:rIS was sorry to find that the Right Hon. Gentlet - i1,.0 the Member for the Universiry of Oxford had been obliged to travel to the Antipodes to find a bishop contentt d with 2,0001. per annum. The question, however, before the House was not the Colo nial Church, but the rtes paid to the Dea❑ and Chapter of Windsor. He thought the whole affair was a dis grace to every body connected with it—;o the Dean aed toapter for receiving it, the Chancellor of the Ex chequer for paying it, and the House for sanctioning it.. He should, however, again divide the House on the subject._ /Cir. CHRISTOPHER protested against Members of that House vowing forward to make charges against clergymen of the Church of England without first taktug the pains to acquire correct information. Mem bers dal themselves very little credit by bringing for ward ataertions which could not be proved when they were inquired into. Colonel SAL WEY thought the House was very much indebted to the Hon. Members fur Coekermouth and Marylebcne for bringing these abuses under the notice of the. House. He contended that the chapel at Windsor, being a royal property, any one of the Royal Family had a full right to be buried there without any fee whatever. The whole property of the chapter be• longed to the order of which they were merely the priests. Mr. REYNOLDS was very much satisfied at the pre sent discussion, because after Parliament had spent some five months io 6:.;oldieg' the Pope and Cardinal Wiseman, it was now exercLiog its privileges of poking into an other hole. With regard to tho question before the House, as the dean and chapter were salaried officers, he did not bee a hat right they had to fees whatever. —(Hear, hear.) For once he had to thank the Honourable Member for l'ilarylabone, though that did not often occur with them, for that Hon. Baronet had been so long engaged in scolding him (Mr. Reynolds) that he had at last received among them the name of "Conciliation Hedl."—(Laughter.) Mr. HAWES said he had only to state in reply to the Right Hon. Geutlerean (Mr. Gladstone), that. the Go 'erne:ens had no present intention of introducing any me t‘tire in regard to the Colonial Church. Mr. C. LEWIS then brought up the report of the Committee of .Suppl 7. Sir DE LACY ]VANS called attention to the case of Sir George %\ esthall, who, he complained, had not been fairly treated by the Admiralty, to whom he had applied for employment in her Majesty's navy on the American coast, with which he was acquainted. Admiral DUNDAS denied that Sir George West ball had done se. He could bear testimony to the value ef. that officer, but having made inquiries, he found th a t no application h a d b een made by him to the Ad miralty since 1837. Sir DE LACY E,VANS distinctly denied that state ment. Admiral DUNDAS thought such language improper and discourteous, and ought not to be allowed in the Howe. It would not certainly be allowed out of doors. Sir DE LACY EVANS said he was quite ready to meet the Gallant Admiral.—(Cries of " Order.") A brief altercation followed between the Gallant Admiral and General, but, at the desire of the Speaker, Sir DE LACY EVANS withdrew his expressions, and the subject then dropped. On th e vote o f 500001. for civil contingencies b e i ng read, Mr . W. WILLIAMS moved that it be reduced by 2261 , the sure ;:aid to the Dean and Chapter of Windsor. Th e Rouse oivjded, when there appeared — For the reduction Against ... 37 ... 29 Major'ty ••• ••• The vote wiis th v( 1 - ••• agreed to. Upon anoth er etl Sir GEORGE Y te ' LCHELL called the attention of the House to the _ catie of c and marines who were er"iu surviving (Beers, seamen, specially approved by present in a successful action, the Admiralty, w h ose c laims for naval medals had been n rtbj''ete Sir F. BARING said is way tatio'i well k nown t h at t h e ac - . Lion was commenced before de of war, and took place under peculiar circumstances , u rather painful na ture. A Committee had been appointedof a claims of those who claimed to be e to i nqu i re i nto the and the Admiralty had acted upon their report, to medals, Captain SCOBELL said the quescreport, the Uovernment had acted on a r h ton was, whether right or a wrung • eiple in the distribution of the medals ; if wrong to be immedivtely remedied. The effect of the It ought which they had adopted would be to give the smallest ship boy who had no merit of his own a medal, i m w al h le i st able offi,:er:, who by accident were not actually presentle in the engaomect, would be obliged to go niedalless The number who had not received medals was so small that be thought the G.:s..;rnment might properly award them medals, if they found on inquiry that the services in which they had been engaged entitled them to such honorary distinctions. After a few words from Colcncl CHATTERTON and other Hon. Metniwra the subject. dropped. Sir DE LACY EVANS wished to draw the atten tiou.of the Nobl3 Lord at the head of the Woods and Forests- to the case of Anne Hickg, wbo bad been dia. Possessea of a house. He gavo notico that he should, on,fluture occasion, make a motion on the subjcet. lt ( .I.4l, l 4lRiader of the itz on we then received. The Grand Jury Cess (Ireland) Bill passed through Committee. MERCANTILE MARINE AMENDMENT BILL. The House went into Committee on this Bill. Clauses 1 to 15 inclusive were agreed to without die. cussion. Oa clause 17, Mr. ANDERSON moved an amendment for the pur pose of modifying the system of advance notes. He proposed to make these advance notes granted by the shipowner, recoverable from him under all the circum stances, whether the sailor deserted or not. This, he thought, would be to make the shipowner careful to grant them only to sailors of known character and repu tation. Mr. JAMES CLAY supported the amendment. Mr. LABOUCHERE said that though the system of advance nutes was open to many objections, yet he should not consent to the present amendment, because he thought it would lead to to the entire abolition of the .lystem, and be the cause of many hardships to the sailors. After a short discussion the amendment was with drawn. The clause was then agreed to. The remaining clauses of the Bill were then agreed to, as also were the schedules. Mr. LABOUCHEUE proposed a clause to empower any naval or consular officer, in case of a shipwreck abroad, to hold an inquiry into the circumstances of such shipwreck. The clause was agreed to. Mr. ANDERSON proposed a clause to repeal the clause of the Act 7th and Bth Victoria, chap. 112, which exempis merchant seamen who enter a vessel of war from forfeiture of their wages. Sir F. BARING said particular directions had been issued from the Admiralty on this subject, and every recurrencepreceution woofutlhdobsee taken instances to o prevent f ab a the ndo n unnecessary ment T h e present system , ho wever, was a great protection to the s eaman, who ought not to be overlooked in this discus sion; and he confessed it would be imprudent to deprive hi m of that protection by allowing this clause to be in troduced, which would have the efftct of leaving the sea man entirely at the mercy of the master. Mr. RICARDO was very much astonished at the course taken by the Right Hon. Baronet the First Lord of the Admiralty. Hitherto he had laboured under the impression that the law now complained of was insti tuted for the purpose of manning the navy, but now it appeared that a second object of it was to protect the seaman against the ill-treatment of the master. Well, if ihat were so, why not allow the seaman to desert into the merchant service as well as the navy? He for one had no faith in Admiralty regulations, and es he thought the existing law acted unjustly towards the shipowner, he should certainly support the intro duction of the clause. Mr. W AWN also supported the clause. Sir J. GRAHAM would be glad to know if the lion. Gentleman who proposed the clause intended to divide. Mr. ANDERSON said he did. Sir J. GRAHAM said, under these circumstances he must request that the discussion be adjourned. It was not right that an important question of this nature should run the risk of being carried by reason of the thinness of the House. He was not quite sure that it would be possible to man the navy without im• pressmi,nt, but certainly it was not possible to keep the navy in a state of efficiency without this power of aug menting the service upon the volunteer principle. lie should therefore oppose the clause. Mr. FORSTER thought no reason whatever had been given for the continuance of the power, and announced his intention to bring the salvage question under con sideration early next session, unless in the meantime it a as taken up by the Government. After a few words from Admiral DUNDAS, Mr CLAY reminded the Committee, the clause would not prevent the seaman joining a man-of war while he was engaged in a merchant ship if ho so thought fit, but it would prevent an improper influence being used to in duce him to do so. The Committee then divided, when there appeared— For the clause ... ... 12 Against it ... ... ,•• ~, 32 Majority —2O The clause was accordingly lost. Mr. ANDERSON next moved the insertion of a clause to the effect that such provisions of the General Morchsnt Seamen's Act, 8 and 9 Vic., c. 112, and of the Mercantile Marine Act 1850, as compels seamen i❑ the merchant service to obtain and produce register tickets, shall be repeal,d. Mr. LABOUCIIERE opposed the clause. Though he was quite ready to admit that there was ample room for improvement in the registration and ticket system. The clause was withdrawn. Mr. ANDERSON then moved a clause to the effect, that such provisions of this Act, and of the Mercantile Marine Act, 1850, as apply to the personal supervision of shipping masters over the engagements and discharge of seamen, shall only be applicable when the services of a shipping [master for that purpose shall be required by the master, owner, or any seaman or seamen, concerned in such engagement or discharge; and nothing contained in the said Acts, or either of them, shall authorise any shipping master to interfere in the engagements or discharge of any seaman or seamen unless the master or owner, seaman or seamen, shall request the interference of such shipping master for that purpose. Mr. LABOUCHERE said, although this proposal came before the House in the shape of a clause, it was nothing more nor less than a modest proposal to repeal that part of the Mercantile Marine Act which related to the suppression of the crimping system. He bad received assurances from nearly every seaport in the kingdom of the admirab!e working of that Act, and be hoped nothing would be done to disturb its provisions. Mr. 4110FEA L'l: supported the clause, and denied that the operation of the Act had been at all satisfactory. After a few words from Mr. SPAWN the clause was negatived without a division. the preamble was then:agreed to, and the House hav ing resumed the report was ordered to be recived on Mlnday. CONVEYANCE OF MAILS BY RAILWAYS BILL. Mr. G. LEWIS moved that this Bill be read a second tim, pro j orma, in order to be printed with amendments. It involved mere m , itters of detail, which could be better considered in Committee. Mr. GROGAN opposed :the Bill, which he said was contrary to the existing law. Mr. GLYNN would consent to the second reading, on the understanding that the discussion on the priciple of the Bill should take place in Commitee. Mr. B.DENISON considered that the Bill would give to the Post- &Act, authorities much greater control over railways than they ought t' possess. The Bill, after some further discussion, was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday. THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY l9, 1851. COUN IT COURTS. The report on the County Courts Further Extension Bill was brought up and agreed to. NEW FOREST. The New Forest Deer Removal Bill went through Committee, and was ordered to be ck :.-mitted on Monday next. BOARD OF HEALTH. Lord SEYMOUR obtained leave to bring in a Bill to confirm certain provisional orders of the General Board of Health. The Bill was subsequently brought in and read a firs time, and ordered to be rt , ad a second time on Monday. The House then adjourned. THE ARMY AND NAVY. (From the United Service Gazette of this day.) DIRECTOR-GENERAL FIELD TRAIN DEPARTMENT.-- Colonel Gordon, Inspector of the Royal Carriage De partment at Woolwich, will succeed Major-General Lacey as Director-General of the Field Train Depart ment, and Lieutenant-Colonel Colquhoun, the present Assistant-Inspector of Carriages, will be promoted to the office of Inspector. CHELSEA HOSPITAL.—The spirit of army improve ment, which has worked so beneficial a change in the condition of the active portion of the service, has now extended itself to the admirable establishment founded by Charles the Second for the benefit of old soldiers. A new warrant has, we hear, been issued for re-mo delling the position of the in-pensioners, and augment irg their comforts in the decline of life. The whole body has been formed into six companies, under the com mand of as many commissioned officers. Each company has a company or colour sergeant at is. per diem; 24 ser geants, at Bd.; 24 corporals, at 4d.; 6 drummers, at 3d; first-class privates, at 2d.; second-class privates, at lid.; and third-class privates at Id. each, exclusive of rations, clothing, &c. No man is to be promoted to non commissioned rank unless he was a corporal or sergeant when in the ranks of the army; an important change , which will prevent the exercise of undue favouritism Several other changes have been introduced, which' without putting the public to any additional charge, wil' and much to the credit of the noble asylumr s and thel happiness of those who have selecied it as the locality of their declining days. Altair RETlREMENT.—Lieutenant-Colonel Hay, 6th Dr.goon Guards, is about to retire from the Service, after a period of upwards of 42 years in the army. THE CAPTAIN'S Go, ,D SERVICE PENSIO'N The vacant Captain's Good Service Pension, which fell to the p a tronage of the First Lord of the Admiralty on the promotion of Sir Johe Ross, has been bestowed on (1830), an officer who, in the course of his long servic e in the war, received eight wounds,. and who has also at rved in two commands since the peace. A NeLssestail TOIICH.—When her Majesty's ship Investigator reached the Sandwich Islands, on her way to Behring's Straits, she there fell in with ber Majesty's surveying vessel Herald, Captain Kellett, C.B. The Enterprise, Captain Polliuso n , C.B. had not at that time made her appearance, and as the season was drawing on, Commander M'Clure expressed a most anxious desire to proceed. Captain Kellett seemed, however, desirous that h e s h ou ld awa i t t h e arrival of his consort , but at length consented that ho should continue his voyage. Commander hlSClure lost no time, weighed anchor immediately, and made sail. Captain Kellett, however, on second thoughts, decided upon recalling him t • but it was too late, the Gallant Commander of the Investigator could brook no further delay and telegraphed is reply, "Important Duty," " Own responsibility," and dashed on with an energetic determination to accomplish the object for which he had been fitted out. The Enterprise did nut arrive for some days afterwards, and in consequence was compelled to pa h eo s r s e t n h ty e r whole d :s of n t d h e w w . i o n f t r e o r z a e n in. n last spring agelessly at while th e I nves ti ga t or reac hed the ice, made SCKNESS IN THE EAST INDIA SQUADRON.—BY let ters by the overland mall we reg at Madras ret to hear that Captain Austen' of her m' ajesty' s s hip H as tings, had been left behin d tot' t medical treatment, and the ship had p rocee d ed one C command of Actin g Captain i o ticu* Trincomale e under the the .411.1EMOU Lad been very sickly; her W e apaltasoinhmeaarrktheaot had been attacked with small-pox; he was, however, convalmscent, though fearfully disfigured. KILKENNY DISTRICT. Major-General M`Donald, commanding the troops in the Kilkenny District, having proceeded on leave of absence on the 12th July, Lieu tenant-Colonel C. C. Johnson, Acting-Assistant-Quar termaster-General, bas taken the command. THE NEW ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET.—It IS with ex treme regret we hear that the newly-appointed Admiral of the Fleet, the Right Hon. George Cockburn, G.C.8., is seriously ill. The Admiralty have sent out orders to her Majesty's steam-sloop Hermes, 6, Commander Fishbourne, at the Cape, to be refitted in Simon's Bay, and then to pro ceed to the East India Station, and follow the orders of Rear-Admiral Austen, C.B. SALE OF HER MAJESTY'S STEAMERS ON THE LAKES OF CANADA.—Offers having been made to the authori ties to purchase her Majesty's two steamers Cherokee, 752 tons, and 200-horse power, and Minas, 400 tons, and 90-horse power, now out of commission on the Lakes of Canada, the Admiralty have ordered them to be sold, the Cherokee for 4,0001., and the Minos for 1,2004 MINING INTELLIGENCE, (From the Mining Journal of this day.) MINES.—The market continues dull, but without ma terial change from our last week's report. Dividend shares are still sougobt for, as also the superior class of non-dividend mines; and it is almost unnecessary to add that, with very few exceptions, all others are neglected. Looking at the circumstances in which the business is placed, we incline to the opinion that it will now require some months to restore the market to a healthy tone; but, in the meantime, purchases may be effected of the class of mines which may be designated progressive, on terms rendered highly favourable to the capitalists by the price being assimilated more closely than of late to their intrinsic value. At Wheal Bailer meeting, on Tuesday, the accounts for May and June showed-Balance last Recount 1,3381. 11d. ; ores sold (less dues) 4.7951. 18s. 4d.=6,1341. 10s. 3d.- Costs and merchants' His, 1,459/. Bs. Id.; by dividend of 251. per share, 3,2001. ; leaving balance iu favour of adventurers, 1,4751. 2.5. 2d. At North Roskear meeting, on Monday, the accounts for April and May showed-Balance lat.t account, 1,7091. 13s. 41 ; ores, 4,091/. 178. 8d.=5,8011. 1 la.-To costs and merchants' bills, 3 271/. Bd. ; by dividend ut 71. per share, 9801. ; leaving balance in favour of ad venturers, 1,5501 10s. 4d. At the Allied Consols meeting, on Tuesday, the ac aounts showed-Sales of copper ore in May and June (less 1-18th dues), 2,754/. Os. 10d.-By labour cost. April, 3591. 16s. ld.; May, 4371. 12s. 7d.; merchants' bills, 364/. 19s. 2d.; doctor and club, 121. 103. 3d.; sub sist, 401.: leaving profit, 1,539/. 2s. 9d.; to. which add balance last ace , unt, 240/. 3s. Bd., and deduct divi dend 6s, per share (1,5361.), leaves in hand, 2431.6;. sd. At the West Polgooth Tin Mining Company's general meeting, yesterday (Sir George Edmund Hodgkinaon in the chair), the report of the committee of management was read and adopted unanimously, and the number of shares was reduced from 12,500 to 6,500. The balance sheet, showing an amount in favour of the adventu rers of 1,052/. was passed. At the Consolidated Mines meeting on Wednesday, the accounts showed-Two months' ore money, 4.805/. 16s. 4d.; ditto mundic, 1961. 14s. 6d.; ditto tin, 56/. 15s. I Id. = 5,059/. 6s. 9d.-Tutwork and wages for May, 1,1021. 12s. Bd.; tribute balances ditto, 1,013/. 55.; tut work and wages for June, 1,237/. 6s. 6d.; merchants' bills, 2,1601. 6s. 9d.: showing loss of 4544 48. 2d.; add balance from last account, 3491. 2s. Bd.; leaves now against the adventurers, 803/. 6s. 10d. At the West Ding Doug quarterly meeting, on Tues day, the Ist inst , the accounts showed-Balance last ac count, 182/. 16s. 10d.; labour cost to the end April, 3211. 10s. 9d.; sundries, 25/. 2e. 6d. ; merchants' bills, 1151. 3s. 4d.=644/. 13s. 5d.-By tin ore sold (less dues, 13/. 10s. 4d.) 2561. 16s. 10d. ; calls, 245/. 10s. ; sun dries, 2/.165. 6d. : leaves balance to next account, 1391. 105. ld. A call of 7s. 6d. per share was made, and Mr. John Richards, jun., appointed Joint purser with Mr. Batten. At Great Wheal Baddern meeting, on the 3d inst., the accounts showed-Balance last account, 1,3471. 18s. 9d.; labour cost two months , 915/. 95.; merchants' bills, 8941. Is. 6d.; interest and office expenses, 521. 16s. sd.= 3,2101. ss. Bd.-Call 1,2801 ; lead ore sold, 9061.; tin, 1921. ss. 4d.; mundic, 371. 10s. 2d.; materials, 25L 9 s . 10d.; leaves balance against adventurers, 7691. Os. 4d. At the Penzsnce Consols meeting, on the 21st June, the accounts showed-Cost for eight months, 789/. 2s. -By balance last account, 40/. Bs. Bd.; tin sold, 4951. 35.; sundries, 111. 30. 2d.; leaving balance against adven turers, 2421. 7s. 2d. At the Devon and Courtenay Consols meeting, on Wednesday, the accounts showed—Balance last account, 1701. 1 ls. 3d.; labour cost for May, 334/. 2a. 10d.; ditto, for April, 4021. is. 3d..- -- - - 9061. 15s. 4d.—By ore sold, 1151. 55.; call, 6241.: leaving balance against the com pany, when all calls are paid, 1671. 10s. 4d. A call of 4s. per share was made. . _ At Wheal Plenty meeting, last week, a call of 51. per share was made. At the West Phoenix meeting, held on Monday, the accounts showed-Paid purchase of ground east of engine-shaft, 1501.; labour cost, April, 1891. 19s. 11d.; ditto for May, 2151. 12s. 6d.; balance cost of engine, 2051. 12s. 6d.; sundries, 471. 14s. 10d.=808/. 7s. 3d. By balance last account, 811 4s. 4d.; calls, 4921.: leaving balance against the adventurers, 2351. 2s. 11d. A call of 1/. per shale was made. At the Trethevy meeting, on Tuesday, the accounts showed-Labour cost, April, 144/ 63. 4d.; ditto May, 1911 6.. 2d.; Messrs. Nicholls and Co., for ironwork, 1004=435/. 12s. 6d. By balance from last account, 24 ss. 10J.; calls, 3631. 17s. 3d.; leaving a balance against the adventurers, 691. 9s. 2d. A call ut 11. per snare was wade. At the Towan Mine meeting, on the 30th Tune. the accounts from Aug., 1850, to the end of May, 1851, showed the costs and merchants' b►lls to he 1321. ss. 4d ; to meet which, and for the future working of the mine, a call of 10s. per share was made. During the wi-ek shares have changed hands in Alfred Consols, Bedford, South Caradon, Spearne Consols, Tre bane, Mary Ann, Trelawny, Wicklow, and one or two other dividend- paying mires; also in Caradon Vale, East Buller, Great Sheba, Ktrcudbrightshire, Merllyn, Trethevy, Ty wardreath, West Downs, Wheal Crebor, L.mon, Wheal Sydney, East Wheal Russell, and Boring (ion Park. At Wheal John meeting, on the 9d2 instant, the ac counts showed-Balance end February, 401. 11.-. 10d.; March, April, and May costs, 73/. 10s. 5d.: merchants' bills, 711. 18s. 11d..“1861. ls. 2d. By call of 10s. per share, 75/ ; leaves balance - of 1111. Is. 2J. A call of 11. per share was made. At Great Sheba meeting, on Monday, the accounts were examined and passed, showing-Labour cost for March, 2341. 19s. 9d.; April, 2041 4s. Bd.; May, 200/. ss. 11J. J..... 6391. 10s. 4d. By balance last account, 911. Is. 5d.; calls, 3931.; leaving balance against the mine, 1551 Bs. 11 d. A call of 11. per share was made. At Wheal Gill meeting, on Wednesday, the accounts were examined and passed showing-Calls, 815/. 10s. Balance last account, 1611. 3s. 2d.; labour cost, March, 113/. ss. 1 Id.; ditto April, 581. 16s. Id.; ditto May, 1291. 175.; balance coat of engine, 265/. Is. 6d.; sundries, 281.; having balance in favour of the mine, 69/. 6s. 4d. A call of 11. per share was made. In Foreign Mines the transfers have been few-in C.-.bro, Santiago, St. John del Rey, United Mexican, Worthing, and Australian. At the Cobra meeting, on Tuesday, the directors' report was highly satisfactory as to the progress of the undertaking during the past year, and highly encou raging for thQ future. A dividend of 41. was iiieclared, payable on the 24th instant. THE CRYSTAL PALACE. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. SlR,—The greatest objection to the attempted per manency ot the Crystal Palace appears to me to be, money having been subscribed with an understanding that the surplus (if any) should be " applied to pur poses strictly in connexion with the ends of the Exhibi tion, and the establishment of similar exhibitions in fu ture." Certainly the thing has been well carried out, and for a worse execution of the design a debt might be due, instead of an overplus remaining. As you must, however, separate the admission money from that voluntarily subscribed, and when we reflect that a very small portion of the subscribers would take back even all their money devoted to this object, it surely is hardly worth while for a few individuals to show discontent as to the small per-centage which alone could be refunded to them. " Paying back is double trouble," but as the editor of the Tines knows the name of his correspondent, perhaps he can also learn the amount of his subscription, and reconvey it to him, if the Commissioners approve of such a step. I never subscribed a farthing myself to the object in question, but if the medical men of the Bromptou Hos pital were to certify that a sanitary winter garden would aid consumptive patients, I should much wish to contri bute to such an appropriation of the building, the more so if a mineral water reservoir, representing the Spas for all Nations, could be added for the ben,fit o f those who seldom quit London. At Brompton Dr. Struve's plan is extraordinarily successful, and now we have an opportunity to seize what we may regret losing after it is too late—" facilisdescensus averm" (as Colonel Sibthorp would name it)— " Sod revocare gradum, Hui labor hoc upus est." The dinner to Mr. Fox at Derby explained so clearly the enterprise as to the conception, and the combination of lightness and strength, in proving the firmness of the building, and energy in the completion of it, that a few drops ot rain, near the pillars, mubt not make us jeer at a national triumph, but send us to our own shower-baths. I am, Sir, your obedient servant, LOOKER-ON, July 17, 1851. SERIOUS RIOT IN GREENOCK. From a late edition of the Greenock Advertiser of Tuesday, we learn that Greenock has been the scene of an alarming and disgraceful riot, in which many per sons have been very seriously injured. It appears that an individual named Joha Orr, an itinerant preacher, of what persuasion we know not, had on Saturday night last collected an immense crowd on the Steamboat Quay by a vehement denunciation of the Pope. The Roman Catholics of the town assembled in great force at the place of meeting with bludgeons, and a scene of pushing and driving ensued, in the course of which se. "rural severe blows were given. One or two persons were rather severely i n j ured. On Mon d ay even i ng th e disturbed f ee li ng found express i on i n an o p en riot. The Stea m b oat Q uay and Breast, up to t h e f o ot of King William street, was one moving mass, and a series of conflicts took place between the Catholics, who bad come in a b o d y, an d the mo b. The riot speedily spread over the town, and the police were completely baffled in their attempts to supprese it. Several persons were here very severely hurt, and one fellow, named Patrick O'Donnel, was captured on the Steamboat Quay, while in the act of striking a blow with a short stick loaded with lead, which must have caused instantaneous death had it alighted on the per son's head at whom he had aimed. At half-past 10 the mob proceeded by Inverkip and East Shaw-streets, with the view of demolishing the windows of the Ca tholic chapel in Bearhope-street, and suc ceeded in effecting their purpose ; a few of those of the Methodist Chapel in Tobago street in retaliation sharing the same fate. While the mob were passing along Inverkip-street, a pistol was dis charged, and the utmost alarm was excited by the rumour being spread that a man named Hutton, the leader of St. Patrick's band, who was quietly standing at his own door, was seriously injured; and the report was believed from the yells of his wife who insisted he had been killed, which she ran through the streets shouting. We are happy to be able to say that though the contents of the weapon, whieb, apparently, were small pellets, struck him, be yond a cut on one of his fingers no harm was done. The ruffian who fired the pistol was happily captured as he was in the act of escaping to the roof of the house to which he had fled for shelter. Ile gave his name as James Lafferty, and his tongue afforded unmistakeable evidence of his Irish birth. Upon searching him at the police-office. some percussion caps, and a most formid able dagger knife were found; the pistol he had parted with in the course of his flight. Among other damage, the windows of the priest's blouse were almost carried away. Upon the person of another man, the father of Hutton, above referred to, a strong kitchen-poker was found, and another deadly weapon, also a portion of an iron poker, about eighteen inches long, with a knob of an inch and a halt in diameter, was found on a man named Byrne, who is now in custody, and various other most formidable weapons were brought in in the course of the night. About midnight the town was somewhat quieter—the police parading the street, and every pre caution being taken by the magistrates to prevent a re newal of the disturbance. The special constables wore ordered to be on duty in case of further rioting, but the town has since been quiet.— Caledonian Mercury. RACING FIXTURES FUR 1851. Marlborough ......... 22 Wenloek Chelmsford ... 22 Tiverton .. .. . 23 Guildford .... 23 Odiham ... U .... 25 Ripon North Staffordshire 5 Leith Sulscription 5 Brighton Leominster 6 Alvechurch 6 Brighton Club 8 Wolverhampton ..... 11 Huntingdon l2 Reading York Bridgnorth Goodwood Chewton Mendip Downham Park 3O Knutbford Tenbury 3l UST. Southport Plymouth Paisley 2l Canterbury 2l Stourbridge 25 Derby Taunton Egham 27 Lynn Stirling Scarborough Eccles Warwick Rochester Lincoln ... 4 Bungay ........ 5 Radcliffe 8 Lichfield. .. Cheadle (Staff.) .. 8 Yarmouth Leicester lO Weymouth .. 10 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 18. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wocl• sack at Five o'clock. PETITIONS. The Earl of LONSDALE presented petitions from several places in favour of the Ecclesiastical Titles As sumption Bill. Earl NELSON presented several petitions with a simi. lar prayer. WREXHAM IMPROVEMENT BILL. Earl TALBOT moved the recommittal o f Bill, on aocount of the absence from the Committee of one Noble Lord who had been appointed to sit on that Com mittee. Lord CAMOYS opposed the motion. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE could see no ne cesiity for re-committing the Bill. Earl TALBOT replied. The House divided, when there appeared— Contents ... 9 Non contents 34 _ _ _ Majority against the of the Bill , ... —25 The Earl of MOUNTCASHELL presented a large number of petitions from Bath, Doncaster, Sunderland, and other places, against Papal aggression. Earl WALDEGRAVE presented several petitions to the same effcct. The Bishop of OXFORD presented petitions from the parish of Newington Bagpath, county of Gloucester, and from other places, to the same effect; also a petition from the clergy of the Isle of Wight deanery, com plaining of the present system of tithe rent charges; also a petition from Cumberland in favour of a superannu ated fund for officers connected with the administration of the poor-law; also a petition from the ancient and loyal colony of Barbadoes, complaining of the grievous injury done to their property by the continuance of the slave trade with Brazil and Cuba, and praying tor mea sures to repress it; also a petition to the same effect from St. Christopher's, numerously signed. He was sure the petitioners would be pleased to learn from the statement mudo the other night in another place, that our efforts to suppress the slave trade had, during the last year, been attended with so much success.—(Rear.) CBE& - SEPT: Liverpool Autumn Hunt 10 Morpeth lO Uttoxeter Dover ll Doncaster Saudbach Upton-on-Severn Bedford Eglinton Park ... 23 or 24 Manchester Autumn 25 Newmarket F.O. ...... 30 _ OCTOBER. Monmouth Richmond Caledonian Hunt Chesterfield . 1 Holy well Hunt ...... ... 14 Chester .... ... 7 Hereford 23 Hampton Autumn 7 Newmarket Houghton.. 27 Yorkshire Union Hunt 8 NOVI Worcester [BElt. GOODWOOD Cup.—Predestine was struck out at twelve o'clock, noon, on Friday last. (The weights for this race are the same as last week). THE LONDON GAZETTE, July 18. BANKRUPTS. Randall Acres, jun.,innkeeper,Puokeridge, Hertford shire, to surrender July 26 and Aug. 30, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansfeld, official assignee; Jenkinson, Sweating, and Jenkinson, Clement's-lane, Lombard-street; Richardson, Much Hadham, Herts. Richard Matty, fancy colour paper manufacturer, Paul's Wharf, Upper Thames-street, City, July 26 and Aug. 30, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Loughborough, Austin Friars. Henry Charles Frost, boarding-house keeper, Russell square, July 26 and Aug. 30, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee ; Steinberg, Bresd-street, Cheapside. Robert Summers, pawnbroker, Bath-street, City-road, Aug. 1, at eleven, and Aug. 30, at half-past twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Whittington. Dean-stre , t, Finsbury-square. William Brunskill, ribbon manufacturer, Paternoster row, July 25, at half-past twelve, and Aug. 28, at half past one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assignee, Birchin-lane; Crowder and Maynard, Coleman strt er. William Buchanan, picture dealer, Gerard-street, Soho, July 29, at one, and August 30, of two. at the yourt of aptcy. official assignee, Guildha l-chata bus, B4singhall-stre.-t; Bodman, Bucklersbury. William Henry Barrett, miller, Gloucester, Aug. 6 and 29, at eleven. at the Bristol District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol; Bretherton, Gloucester. J o hn W e lch, coach builder, Nantwich, Chester, July 28 and August 18, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Cazenove, official assignee, Liverpool; Brough ton, Nantwich. Gunnis Lean Owens, woollen draper, Manchester, July 29 and August 26, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court. Fraser, official assignee, Manchester; Sale, Worthington, and Shipea,in, Manchester. BOOKSELLERS' PROVIDENT INSTITUTION.—Yester day evening a meeting of the board of directors and other members of the above institution was held at the committee room in Paternoster-row, for general business. The report for the past year was very satisfactory, both as regarded the increase of numbers and finances. The sum of 4751. had been distributed for permanent and temporary assistance amongst necessitous members and their widows, of which granted for t emporar y re li e f t o 23 p ersons. having received upwards of 800/. si n ce the t 2 h l e o/ s . h m a e d p b a e r e t n i e s relief fund was opened. For permanent relief or annuities above 260/. had been expended upon 18 individuals, the same parties having previously received nearly 40b L Four of the booksellers' assistants, receiving permanent relief, have had comfortable homes provided for them at the " Booksel lers' Provident Retreat," at Abbott's Langley, Herts. The whole sums granted for assistance since October, 1840, amount to 2,500/. The number of members now on the books is upwards of 600. The financial statement showed the income from life, annual subscriptions, and interest, to be 1,4441. 14s. 4d. ; the expenditure, after the investment of 810/. 19s. Id., left a balance in hand of 88'. Os. 11d., and the amount of cash and interest in the bands of the Commis sioners for the Reduction of the National Debt at the date of last audit was 19,272/. 16s. Bd. DESPERATE LBAT OP A FEMALE FROM A RIVER STICAM BOAT.—Yesterday afternoon the passengers on board the Bee steam-boat were thrown into a most painful state of excitement, in consequence of the following occurrence appears that about five o'clock a respectably-dressed female, who was sitting on the deck of the vessel, was observed to take off her bonnet, apparently for the purpose of arranging her hair, when, in an instant afterwards, she leaped head foremost into the River, nearly facing Paul's-wharf. The captain gave immediate orders to stop the boat ; but before that was accomplished, the paddle-wheels nearly came in contact with the poor creature's head. Two watermen, named Jasper Clements and Edward ulyatt, having put of in their boats, they fortunately succeeded in rescuing the un fortunate woman just as she was sinking for the third time. She was removed to the nose and Ball public-house, Ben nett's-hill, Thames-street, and owing to the medical treat ment of Mr. Harper, of Farringdon-street, recovered suffi ciently to be taken to the hospital. When restored to con sciousness she expressed regret that her life had been saved, and also that should she recover she would do it again, She also stated that she had left word at home what she intended to do. In a small basket, which she left with her bonnet on the vessel, was a piece of paper, on which was written, "Marian Johnson, No. 23, Greenhill-rents. Smithfield," which, upon inquiry, turned out to be her name and address. MIDXIGHT OUTRAGE DY ARMED MEN.—MT. Hine, of Macclesfield, silk-manufacturer, who resides at a lonely spot about three miles from that town, was placed in circumstances of considerable danger on Tuesday night. He and his family had retired to rest a little after midnight, and was aroused by hearing a loud knocking in front of the house, which they soon ascertained was made by five men, masked, and armed with pistols, bludgeons, and other wea pons of offence, who were attempting to force an entrance into the house. They peremptorily ordered him to open the door, and when asked what they wanted, they said all the money and valuables he had in the house. A parley of some du ration took place, Mr. Hine seeking to point out the illegality of their conduct, of course without any effect; for, instead of going away, they threatened the more violently, and de manded that they should have his son's watch if no money was forthcoming. Mr. Hine, jun., added his remonstrance to those of his father's, assuring them that they had no money in the house; their place of business was at Maccles field, and there all the cash was kept. While this was going on, part of them continued their efforts to get into the house, and broke open a door at the back. There was then only one other door between them and Mr. Hine, and the latter knowing that, capitulated on hearing them approach it. The men got his son's watch and some few shillings in silver, and left the place, swearing that the inmates had got off madly too cheap, and they might console themselves with the reflection that nothing worse had happened to them. We believe there was a blunderbuss in the house, but no use was made of it. CLIARGE OF MURDER AT PLTIVOUTII.—At three o'clock this afternoon (Thursday) information was received at the police-station of a Peruvian, named Frederick de Bezon, having murdered an old naval pensioner, named Cos tello, a shoemaker. It appeared that the deceased last night had been out drinking, and his home being in Devonport, he repaired to Stillman-street, where the prisoner was residing. He attempted to get in, but was unable. He afterwards went away, and returned about one o'clock this afternoon, when he again presented himself at the house in a state of intoxication. He was desired to leave, but refused, and the prisoner, who was sober, went down to him to put him out forcibly. Still refusing to leave, he took hold of nim by the shoulders, and knocked him down in the middle of the street —his head coming with great violence to the paving-stones. He lay senseless for a few minutes on the ground, and was afterwards taken into the house, when he was found to be dead. The prisoner has been in the town only a few weeks, and appears to be on tramp. He was immediately taken into custody and conveyed to the station-house, where he now awaits the verdict of a coroner's inquest. The poor old man is above 6u years of age, and was well known in the neighbourhood. PLYMOUTH, JULY 18.—Wind S.W.—Arrd.' Queen Victoria, Quebec. THE IRISH MILLERS. The Earl of STRADBROKE presented several peti tions from millers in various parts of Ireland, complain ing of the admission of foreign flour, and praying for the imposition of a duty upon it. The Noble Earl in supporting the prayer stated that notwithstanding the skill of the millers in Ireland they found themselves unable to compete with foreign millers, and that great distress had been the cons, quence. He believed the value of mill property in Ireland did net fall short of 3,000,000/. Earl GRANVILLE did not deny that:distresiexisted among the millers in particular districts of Ireland. One cause of it no doubt was the difficulty which in land millers had to obtain the same advantages as mil lers near London and other ports,' who were always in the neighbourhood of large supplies of foreign grain. While admitting the distress, he could not admit that it was advisable to attempt to remedy it, or to improve the condition of the millers by legislation. Unless the Noble Earl could prove that the manufacturer of flour was in a different position from the manutacturer of any other article, his case fell to the ground. Lord REDESDALE thought they ought to consider whether it was politic to encourage the importation of foreign fl Air rather than of foreign wheat. Earl GREY thought that all they had to do was to rake care that. the small duty levied should be the same on flour as on wheat, and to leave to persons to find out for themselves whether they would import wheat or flour. Lord REDESDALE remarked that flour was a ma , nu•actured article. The Earl of GLENGALL having presented several petitions on the subject from Wexford, Armagh, Dun dalk, and other places, stated, that from the Ist of Ja nuary to the Ist of June last the increase in the impor tation of foreign flour was 1,300,000 cwt. over what it was in the corresponding period of the previous year. The result was that the farmers of Ireland not being able to find a market for their wheat, had this year given up the growing of it to a great extent. In one county alone the decrease in the number of acres for wheat was not less than 10,000. Ireland had been de vastated and depopulated under the free-trade system, and such a blow had been inflicted upon her as she would never recover from. Lord BERNERS said his firm opinion was, if the free-trade system was not altered, the English farmer would be totally unable to compete with the foreigner. The Earl of CARLISLE presented petitions from Cambridge, various places in Northumberland, Kensing ton, and other places, for the retention of the Crystal Palace. HOUSE-TAX BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the second reading of this Bill. The imposition of this tax would relieve the country from another tax which was con demned generally—namely, the window tax. The new tax would produce about 700,0001, an amount consider ably less than was raised from the window tax. Lord MONTEAGLE said no one would wish to throw out a Bill that would afford so much relief to the taxpayers of the country. He would, however, remind the House that a possibility existed of the finances of the country experiencing a season of difficulty, in conse quence of toe repeal of permanent taxes, and at a time when the property-tax was only continued for one year, and might at the end of that year not be again imposed. With respect to the window tax, though it might in some cases have operated harshly and unequally, yet it must 1./C, iccollootgd the house. which would De most relieved by the repeal of that tax were the higher class of ma❑- stuns, the owners of which could well afford the burden. He considered the financial arrangements for this year were singularly defective. He thought Government ought to have retained all permanent taxes until the time arrived for them to grapple with the great question of the continuation of the property-tax. He should not oppose the Bill, but be objeeted to the principle of the Bill, as founded on a fallacious system of finance. The Earl of STRADBROKE considered the Bill was objectionable, because it exempted all houses under 201., and would therefore have a tendency to encourage the building and consequent multiplication of that class of houses. rV Earl GREY protested against the declaration that the 'window tax had been repealed because it was unpopular, and not because it was an obj ctionable tax. Now the inquiry that took place into the operation of this tax clearly proved that the health and comforts of the people were seriously affected by the continuance of this tax. 'The house-tax was sound in principle, and be firmly be lieved that the burden would principally fall on the ground landlord. He did not think there was any class of property that could better bear the infliction of a tax than house property. He quite agreed with his Noblo Friend as to the inconvenient s.tuation in which Govern went were placed by the vote for continuing the income tax for one year; but when the time arrived for consi dering the financial condition of the country, he fully re lied on the disposition of the people to do that which would be best for the maintenance of the credit and honour of the country. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE replied. • The Duke of ARGYLL said the whole of this discus sion proved how difficult it was to place direct taxation upon a just foundation, and that they must found their finances mainly on indirect taxation. He was no Pro tectionist. He approved of the removal of all dunes merely for the sake of protection; but if the finances of the country were to be raised on the main from indirect taxation they must proceed on the broad principle of raising small taxes over the largest possible surface, and levy them on those articles which were the most extensively used. A groat deal of nonsense had been calked about taxing food. Abstractedly speaking there was no more injustice in such a tax than in a tax on light or clothes, or anything else. All taxes were in themselves as evil, and if a tax was not imposed upon principles of protection, he knew not upon what abstract ground some part of our taxation should nut be raised from food. They had to raise a certain sum yearly, and the question was how it could be raised most equi tably to all classes. If they wished, as was ju s t, a larger sum from the richer class, tax articles consumed by them alone—tax their carriages, their horses, and their servants • but do not let the other classes be ex em p t alto gether, but raise in small sums imposed on articles univer sally used a considerable amount of taxation. This broad principle bad been very much overlooked, and it was one of the great evils of having a weak and feeble Govern ment, which, incapable of acting on anyone broad prin ciple of finance, oould not resist the pressure against any unpopular tax, but was obliged to substitute in its stead some other confessedly founded on false and erroneous principles. The Earl of CARLISLE said, if the Noble Duke held out to the people of this country that the abolition of the income-tax was to be connected with any design to re-impose duties on the importation of food, he did not think the Noble Duke would do much to advance the views which he advocated of abandoning protective duties. The Bill was then read a second time. Tho Militia Ballot• buspension Bill, the Assessed Tuxes CoMposition Bill, and the Public Works, Fisheries, &c., Bill, were severally read a third time and passed. The United Church of England and Ireland Bill, the Churches and Chapels (Ireland) Bill, and the Eccle siastical Residences (Irelaud) Bill, were read a second time. 'The Duke of ARGYLL presented petitions from Dal keith and Alloa, in favour of maintaining the Crystal Palace; also several petitions against Papal aggression. The other business on the paper was then disposed of, and their Lordships adjourned. ROUSE OF COMMONS. July Is. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a few minute& be fore Four o'clock, at which time there was as unusually full attendance of Members. ALDERMAN SALOMANS.-SCENE IN THE HOUSE. Immediately afterwards the House was about to pro ceed with the private business on the paper, but before the first Bill had been disposed of Mr. Alderman Salo mons entered and took his seat beneath the Speaker's gallery. The SPEAKER observing this, and it yet wanting two or three minutes to four o'clock, said, "Members to be sworn will please to come to the table." Mr. Alderman SALOMONS than advanced to the table, being introduced by Sir B. Hall and Mr. J. A. Smith, and the clerk at the table presented the Hon. Member with a book, which, from what next occurred, would appear to be a copy of the New Testament. Alderman SALOMONS, without accepting the proffered book, said in a loud and firm voice, I demand to be sworn upon the Old Testament. The SPEAKER—WiII the lion.—(Oh)—Member say why he wishes to be sworn upon the Old Testament? Alderman Sid.omoNs—Beoauso, Sir, I declare it to be most binding upun my conscience. The SPEAKER—The oaths, then, may be adminis tered so. The Hon. Gentleman then took without objection the oath of allegiance and the oath of supremacy, and pro ceeded with the oath of abjuration, reading from the form in his hand, until he came to the words "on the true faith of Christian." Tbese words he refused to read, but concluded with the words " So help me God." The Clerk advanced towards the Speaker, and said, the Hon. Member has not repeated . , the words " on the true faith of a Christian." The SPEAKER —Too Hon. Member having omitted to take the oath in the form of words prescribed, it is my duty to inform him that he must retire below the bar.—(Loud cheers from the Opposition side of the House.) Mr. Alderman SILOIIONs, still standing where he was, read the following words from a paper :—" I have now taken the oaths in the form and with the ceremonies that I declare to be binding on my conscience, in ac cordance with scat. 1 and 2 Viet., cap. 105; I now de mand to subscribe the oath of abjuration, and to declare to my property qualification." The scene was ex citing to the last degree some Members roaring out at the pitch of their voices, " Withdraw, withdraw!" while others added to the babble of sounds by calling out for " Order, order!" or rising to go through a pan tomimic performance, as if they wished to address some thing to the Chair. The confusion, however, did not in any way daunt the Hon. Member for Greenwich, and he continued reading until he came to the close of the pa pers, when, tossing a roll of parchment across the table, be slowly retired below the gangway, and took a seat on the Ministerial side of the Huuse next to Sir W. Moles worth. The Hon. Gentleman directly afterwards rose and said, " Sir, I beg leave to say"—but his vuice was drowned amidst the renewed cries of "Order." The SPEAKER then made an attempt to speak, and something like order being at length obtained, he said " The Honourable Member has omitted certain words from Ow oaths, which is tantamount to nut taking the oaths at all, and it is therefore my duty to tell him that he must withdraw." Alderman SALomoNs did not appear at all inclined to comply with the request, but still maintained his seat, Ind the consequence was another scene of noise and con fusion was enacted; the Members on the Opposition side of the House roaring and shouting continuously. The SPEAKER'S voice was again heard above the storm, and, as far as we could catch his words, be said the Hon. Member must be aware that the Act pre scribes that no Honourable Member can sit in this House, or vote upon any question, unless he has taken and subscribed to the oaths pre scribed by law. Now the last of these oaths has not ben taken in the sense which the House under stands the Act—(Cheers)—and I again repeat to the Hon. Member that it is my duty to direct him to with draw.—(Cheers.) Mr. Alderman SALOMONS wont towards the bar, but remained within it until, amidst loud cries of " Ordet," Mr. J. A. SMITE{ moved forward, and conducted the Hon. Gentleman below it. Sir B. HALL then rose and said he was requested by the Hon. Member for Greenwich, who had just presented himself at the table for the purpose of taking' the oaths prescribed by the Act, and by the forms of the House, and who was prepared to take the oaths in a manner which in his opinion was the most binding on his conscience to declare to the Speaker and to the House that the Honourable Mem ber had withdrawn from the seat which he lately occupied—(Laughter and ironical cheers)—in de ference to the high authority of the Chair.—(Cheers.) But he was also instructed by the Honourable and Learned Member to state— Sir F. THESIGER rose to order.—(Cries of " Order, order;" " Don't be put down;" and "Go on, go on.") I apprehend, continued the Hon. and Learned Member for Abingdon, that the worthy Alderman has not obeyed the order of the House by withdrawing.— (Hear, hear.) Ho is at present standing within the House, and I consider it my duty to call attention to that circumstance.—(Hear, hear.) [This of course gave rise to another exhibition of feel ing on the part of the Opposition, and again Hon. Mem bers ever and anon partially jumped up and motioned the Hon. and Learned Alderman to withdraw, or indulged in strange gesticulations, as if they were addressing some angry observations to the Chair. Sir William Moles worth and Mr. J. A. Smith advanced to the worthy and dauntless Alderman and endeavoured to persuade him to quit the House ; but no, he would not do that; and at length the Sergeant-at. Arms came to the rescue, and at his suggestion the Hon. Mem ber retired to one of the back seats under the Speaker's gallery usually appropriated to Peet a.] Sir B. HALL then went on to say that at the time he was interrupted by the Honourable and Learned Mem ber for Abingdon he was about to state that the was requested by the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Greenwich to declare to the House that his only object in taking the course he bad adopted was to try the legal question of hia right to sit fur and represent Greenwich in Parliament.—(Hear, hear.) It was, however, not his intention or desire to take any course which might be either displeasing or inconvenient to Members; and he (Sir B. Hall) had, therefore, to ask a question of the Right Lion. the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the absence of the Noble Lord at the head of the Govern ment which might facilitate the settlement of this dispute. —(Hear, hear.) As he said before, the Hon. Member for Greenwich was only anxious to try his right to sit in the House, and in order that the Hon. Member might put himself in a position to have the matter tried in one of the legal tribunals of the realm, he bad to ask the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in consequence of the proceedings which bad now taken place, or, it that proceedi ng was not sufficient, wnether, if the Hon. Member came in end took his seat again, Government wit. prepared to institute an imme diate prosecution against him tor the recovery of the penalties provided by the Act of Parliament?—(Cheers.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that in the unavoidable absence of his Noble Friend, he would state the course which be thought it would be most convenient to the Reuse to pursue. He wa- , unite sure that all who heard him woutd do justice to the anxiety which the Honourable Gentleman had shown to vindi dictate that which in his opinion was his legal right, as well as to the course he had taken in hi, endeavours to do so in a manner consistent with the deference and re spect due to that assembly. He apprehended that two questions arose in that House—first, the right o f t h e Hon. Gentleman to a seat in that House, and, secondly, the liability to certain consequences. One must be decided ky that House, the other by a court of law. In either view of the case it was matter for very grave and seri ous deliberation, and he wait not prepared to answ e r the question which his Hon. Friend put with reference to that part of the subject. He ;thought that no instant proceeding should take place, but that an interval should elapse, in order to have the opportunity of consulting the Acts of Parliament, and gravely considering what course should be taken. He thought no proceedings should be taken without notice, so that all persons might be prepared to c ome to t h e di scussion on w hi c h they might feel bound to decide, not perhaps in accordance with there own wishes, but, as they were bound to do, by statute and con s t itut i ona l l aw . H e t h erefore propose d , in order that they might consider the question in a grave and deliberate manner, that no further proceedings should take place at present, but that when the Noble Lord was present on Monday they ahonld resume them. — (Cheers.) Sir B. HALL observed that in a matter of this im portance, nothing could be fairer than the proposal of his Right Hon. Friend, and fee his Dart he had no objection to postpone the question until Monday, or any other day next week that might be more convenient to the Noble Lord at the head of the Government.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. T. DUNUOMBE wished to ask what question they were to resume on Monday; because there were two questions.—(A laugh ) It was not an adjourned de bate; something must be moved.—(Laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said 4 question was put to him by the Hon. Baronet the Mem ber for Marylebone, and as ho did not feel in a position to answer it, he suggested that it should be postponed till Monday. What he proposed now was, that nothing should take place at present, but that the question should stand over till Monday. Government bein t s in full possession of what had taken place would come down then fully prepared to give the Hon. Baronet for Marylebone an answer one way or another. Sir F. THESIGER said if he understood there was a question tor the House to decide he should be dis posed to concur in the suggestion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, but, like the Hon. Member for Finsbury, he felt great difficulty in understanding, from the Right Honourable Gentleman's statement, what the matter was which was to be discussed on Monday.—(Hea r ' hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman had told the House that there were two questions to be decided—first, as to the seat; and eecondly, as to instituting a prose cution for the purpos e of trying the right of the Hon. Member for Greenwich to sit and vote in (Awl:Louse. Now, he had great difficulty in understanding what was the first question which the Right Hon. Gentle man p ro p ose d to take on Monday. Th ere could be uo doubt whatever that, according to the decision of the House, the Hun. Member, havi ng re f use d to ta ke the oath ,of abjuration, was totally inc a p a bl e o f t a king his seat — ( Cheers) --and, therefore, he apprehended that no question of that de scription could possibly arise. (Mr. Sergeant Murphy dissented.) Well, t h en , what was the que st i on ? The Hon. and Learned Gentleman the Member for Cork said there was a grave doubt, but he was not i n Parlia ment in the course of last session, and therefore was not aware that there was upon the journals a re solution of the House on a precisely similar question.—(Hear, hear.) Then if their r es old t i on s were _worth anything .no question of that description was open to them to discuss? He hardly believed that the House was prepared in a following session to rescind a resolution agreed to after a long and anxious debate on the subject—(Hear, hear)—and, accordingly, he thought there must be some other point which the Right Honourable Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed for consideration.— (Hear.) Now, the House would permi t hi m to say t h a t h e thou g ht they fell into a great mistake in the course they pursued with regard to Baron Rotbschild.—(Hear, hear.) It might be in the recollection of the House that, on the Baron refusing to take the whole of the oath of abju ration, he (Sir Frederick Thesiger) rose and moved that the Speaker do issue his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown for a new writ for the city of London.—(Hear, hear.) He was opposed by severed Honourable Mem bers, and among them by the Master of the Rolls, then the Attorney-General, who said that under the Acts of Parliament the penalty was not a forfeiture of the seat, but merely a disability to sit and vote. He thought the Right Hon. Gentleman was mistaken in that respect. Re bad very carefully considered the subject since, and he had come to the conclusion that the precedents ee• tablished that the course was to issue a new writ when a Member reused to take the oaths necessary to be taken before he could sit in the House an d vote, and that there was no difference whatever in that respect between the oath of allegiance and supremacy an d the oath of abjuration, and he trusted he should be able to satisfy the House that in either case, where a person who was elected refused to take the oaths, his seat sees void, and that a new writ ought to issue. If that 10,7 the questio n th e Ch anc ell o r of the Exchequer PTV", for their consideration on Monday he was quite p re p ar ! ' to meet it ; but if th a t were not the question, al thougn he could not assume there could be any other , then, es the Hon. and Learned Member for Cork said, that t grave doubt was hanging over the question, he should only— Mr. B. OSBORNE rose to order. He wished to ko° w whether the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was strictly in order if he did not conclude by proposing The SPEAKER said the Hon. and Learned Dieinb e , h r would certainly be out of order unless he concluded 'III" a motion.—( Hear. and cheers.) Sir F. THESIGER said he would beg leave then! being instigated by the Hon. Member for Middlesex,t° nsotion. move that the Speaker be directed to issue his writ fort he election of a Member for the borough of Greenivieht,, i , the room of Alderman Salomons, who bad refused to te'd the oath of adjuration in the form prescribed.--( 1 ° and prolonged cheers from the Opposition benches.), be The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sai d he was very much surprised at the course pursued bY t Hon. and Learned Member.—(Cheers, " Hear, hear.") He had reason to complain of his Insid e !, such a motion, after the suggestion had been 5 1 ° 0 , agreed to for the adjournment of the question until bi° day. He hoped he would not proceed with them otion. Sir F. THESIGER said it was certainly not his 1 / b l. O tention to do anything more than comment on t h e motion for the adjournment; but when the Hon. lgeu l to for Middlesex called him to order, he felt it necessary to conclude with a motion which would give the Sol to end cries o understand precisely the course which he intend s jet adopt on Monday when the subject again came nt)u disc ussion. —(C heers.) Mr. ANSTEY rose to order. The Hon. and Learigati Gentleman was travelling into matter not befo re t il a s House.—(Loud cries of " Order," and confusion.) wished to ask whether the Hon. and Learned Gentleol was warranted by the permission of the Chair i to rile 11 ,1 1 explain, and enter into a variety of matters not prop e ' before the House? The SPEAKER said the Hon. and Learned Bietehl had moved that a new writ be issued for the boroug h . f) t , Greenwich. Any Hon. Member having moved a 01°11° was entitled to reply. tbe The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER nda s l, o permitted to interpose for a moment. The objee., l/ had was to prevent the sort of feeling which was riblea in the House, and the course which the Hon. and Lee° t Gentleman had taken in entering into a discussion. 0 ,„ the House remember the sort of angry feeling tha t a vi tarred during the discussion last year, and he 1191) j. appeal to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman not bu t o et° dress the House then—(Cries of " Oh, oh.")--;n, leave it until they bad further considered the que eti— ts Sir F. THESIGER said he had only been anxiottA explain that the course he had taken was almost fe r t;g npon him by the interruption he had experienced &rifle the time he was addressing the House.—(Cheers.) bof bad not the slightest intention of departing from ° L ., he believed to be the understanding between the GP'' s t '. cellor of the Exchequer and himself. He was n ot '„ I . liberty to call tor an explanation of the course to be P"eo sued on Monday, and no other opportunity being, ° „ P del to him, he made the motion with which he con ° '"A to for the purpose of indicating the coarse he intendee,, pursue. He begged, therefore , to withdraw them ilt; it having accomplished the end he had in view.—(C bee and laughter.) The motion was then withdrawn. Mr. OSBORNE wished to ask the Hon. and Lee — i a t Gentleman whether he meant to make the same 111°t on Monday Sir F. THESIGER—I am afraid, if I answer IDs question of the Hon. Gentleman, he may consid er out of order.—(Roars of laughter.) Before the laughter had subsided the order of the de c t was read for the consideration of the Lords' sw ell meats to the Killarney Junction Bill. Mr. OSBORNE again rose and said—l cannot Ilh de n r i stand—(Loud cries of " Order," renewed laughter , °- cheers.) The SPEAKER said the question before the 11°° ,s fe e was the consideration of the amendments made by Lords in the Killarney Junction Railway laughter.) Mr. OSBORNE—I claim a hearing from the coor- ir t of the House.—(Cries of " Order! order!" " Cbs chair!") 0 1 ‘ The SPEAKER—The Hon. Gentleman cannot sP e , to a question that is already disposed of.—(Litught e i r Mr. OSBORNE rose again, but the cries of "Oru„e'd being renewed more violentl y than before, he relit' his seat. PETITIONS. from places BERESFORD presented several petitions - r places in Essex against the navigation-laws, and Pr. s t # o , ing for an alteration of the law in regard to foreign portations. Sir J. WALNISLEY or,,Lior JIT el. presented a petition frot• pool against the paper and newspaper stamp duties' i fi ce Sir P. NUGENT presented a petition from a P t iotl in Ireland, praying for protection against the import ° of foreign fl, , ur. in Mr. DUNCOMBE presented a petiti o n fr °— ,ips society calling themselves the Friend s o f I ta ly, poi iv that steps might be taken by h er M a j es t y to prev ent continued occupation of Rome by the French troop s . IRISH BILLS. Several private Bills having been read and a greed t ri , Mr. ROCHE wished to know wheth e r the Goye t . vg ment would have any objection to fix a morning olthlolt for proceeding with several important Irish Bills 0 ' were on the paper. f , The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQU Bo va those bills would be fixed for a morning silt" Thursday next. SUPPLY. The House then went into Committee of SopplP, t he After a short discussion, the vote of 9,8831. I °' Schools of Industry, at Dublin, was agreed to. iti pir Votes also of 6001. for the Female Orphan Agb' o ' o 1,7501. for the Westmoreland Lock Hospital, v e to and 600/, for the Lying-in Hospital, Dublin, agreed to. n eorl Oa a vote of 38,160/. being proposed for the Or. of Irish Presbyterian ministers, t he Mr. WILLIAMS objected to paying money fC I dfl o support of Irish ministers. In Scotland and Eng 1111 3,01) grants were made, and he saw no reason why anYli o f should be made for Ireland. He should move to disfo this vote. 0 0# Mr. M'CULLAGH said the Hon. Member for -- I, Thp• heth had certainly surprised him for once. If 09,,fe jection to the vote was to be made, he should P" thought it would have been to the smallness of it. h od Mr. C. LEWIS defended the vote. It had been Pod granted by the Irish Parliament in the Revolution, a had been continued ever since. a cf td th Mr. C. ANSTEY oppose: ae, vote on the grout. 0 0 consistency, grant. having always voted against the Mayo n t /e Mr. W. J. FOX suggested that the vote shoulder, h reduced annually until at last it should cease altoge t "fet Mr. S. CRAWFORD being opposed to all grant 9 ,o religious purposes should support t h e di sa ll ow al of ' vo Mr. te. tb e HAMILTON did not see any objection t°, o • vote, as it scarcely am ounte d to more t h an 60 1. per - num for each minister. 13 1 Mr. E. B. ROCHE supported the vote, as he tho d this was a very improper time to withdraw it. After a short discussion the House divided, For the grant ll5 Against it Majority The vote was then agreed to. ' tio 6,5891. for charitable allowances charged to the cordatum Fund in Ireland. —Agreed to. er 9.569/. to defray the expenses for the General m° of Health. tl)6° Sir W. JOLLIFFE said in reference to the new ° e re' teries that were to be established, that the con ditiooe bo . quired by the Board of Health as to the site and C r jl racter of the burial - g r ounds were such as to ren de bel most difficult to have them fully carried out. If, b ed were to act in this manner nothing would be accomP"" e re in any reasonable time, while the expenses that vl going on were somewhat heavy. Lord SEYMOUR said the scheme had not been eon t ied into operation with that s u ccess which was origi- h - os an icipated No furth er expense i n respect to base an gr ounils would b e encountered, as the lands had all b e si surveyed. The only matter now for consideratio n r, all to how the further operations were to be carried C tl ye d Mr. W. WILLIAMS said that he had rec e r l iol' nu m erous communications on the subject of these 1313. e e; grounds, expressing much surprise and disappoin t° at the delay that had taken place in respect to the ni ,, tic Lord SEYMOUR sa i d t h at b e f ore t h ey cou ld 01°5„-gait the intramural buriul•grounds, it was of course ese e ' - ore that some other cemeteries should be provided for reception of the dead. Mr. MO WATT said that that was a f ac t which t o h ol el, were all perfectly well aware. of. But the public c A lve plained of so much time being lost without any fl' ee measures being taken fur the establishment of theSe uie b meteries, and for putting a stop to the great evil ''',!' . „rd was so generally complained of. Was the Noble Lard aware that in the very churchyard opposite there t wili a considerable number of bodies interred daily? were not arrangements entered into to put the autlior.p? in possession of other churchyards outside the Aa et The measure was pressed f o rward with much :pe e n ot the last session of Parliament, i n account of the urg e • 50 of the case; and yet nothing had been since done to &Id effect to it. He tho ug ht th at th e p u bli c h a d been tr' with by the Board of Health on this subject. ro se Lord SEICIIOUR said that the great difficult,' n ce s' in respect to the raising of money to purchase the n e sary la up nd on the securities offered. • 13 3 Mr. W. J. PDX said that if the cemeteries estab hs l4 by private c om p anies were f oun d t o b e e ligible• t o ci might be rendered fully available for all purpM ee ' r is? make the public ind, pendent of the intramural b u „e, grounds, which, in such case, should b e c losed at 013 ;01 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER that the Hon. Member seemed t o for ge t th a t inclosiupoe churchyards compensation must be paid in lieu °, 1 1)0 0' fees arisieg fiom the burials in them. He did not , ; 1/ 00 from what fund such compensation was to be given, u by the lev)ing of a rate in the different parishes. , n o ld Sir DE LACY EVANS said that if any dim e t he arose as to the framing of the measure last yea: , 0 0 sooner that difficiilt y was removed th e b e tt e r. 29 Act of the greatest importance to the public that t" ,„v should be carried into oper a tion with a s little de'" possible. After an observation from Mr. W. WILLIAM o I' The CHANCELLOR of the EICHEQUB' -., out of I wive a , Mr. "Dabl( 4 ,5004 of the