The Sun. — London, England, 1845-05-31 00:00:00

- ..ar. •••mrs.amoasommile.... who is unconnected with the Grand Junction line, is a me. Mosel)", who is only a bill discounter ? Witness —He is a bill discounter and banker. Rer..`.fr. Walker —Is a professor of mathematics at Oxford, and trnPrefers the broad to the narrow gauge. His opinion was purely athern a tical one, an d wholly apart from a commercial view of h e e , "'e• Could attain a greater velocity Cu the broad gauge thasi on the narrow. . Mr. John Miller, engineer, examined by Mr. Calt.Ps—Was iittrourable to the broad gauge. The change of gauge could be trap viithout danger to the pw,lic, and without delay in the 4'61,11)1/lent of goods. The contrivance for the transhipment Was a good one. i jihe CIIAIRMikX thought it was quite unnecessary to examine sa nesse ' as to this p o i nt of the case, as so much had already been d upon it. i . Mr. Aunty —..I shall only as k t h e witness ouq question. I be. le 're. Mr. Miller, all you know about this lin is from the; plans ? .Witness ass —I' hat . the —I hat is all. I have not surveyed the 'line, nor have rofessionally engaged in the pre Speaker having been an N rned till twelve o'cl• —ouneed at prayers, the Committee to-morrOff, (,',ROUP EE. ite t e At brznzEN RAILWAY. 4?) met to-day, at t we l ve o ' c l oc k . M r . F . B ar i ng, ii;,_. w hen the evidence in favour of the Aberdeen Railway Veralrisj,n()lin Duncan was first examined, and deposed to the ge. al al ong the track of coun t r y th roug h w hi c h th e li ne Aro afr o , Ned to b e taken, which he represented to be very consi- Ist; ,n esPe c ially in a gr i cu lt ura l pro d uce an d catt l e. effect, William Miller followed, and gave evidence to a similar or hs, Adam Barnes of Montrose, said he represented the feeli ngs th t 14,` 4thabi tants of th a t t own, w hi c h was d ec id e dl y i n f avour or In t , V Un der the cons i deration of the Committee. Public meet. Istn el h l a tt been h eld, and also meetings of the town council, at in)oth.it h ad been agreed to support this line in preference to On, lie considered the formation of this line would b e o f kath - 0 7. a . test advantage' to the town of Montrose. Th e h ar b our tar, ti " ayt ' of thawdn all the leading inh a bit a nt s o f th e t own were i n i earn • it ~,, e gte, chairman of the line, was of opinion that,. both 41. the - r id ed time and expense, the advantage would be in favour railw ay mete, ,„ Lson, Provost of Arbroath, and a ship-owner, gave T ev h i e . to ner '. to the large trade between that town and Aberdeen. 8 t o iot a ton or . goods between those towns at present was from s. kr i h er ton. Arbroath contained a population of 14,845. 14r A °V.I gave evidence to a similar effect. Mr, Ileston said, he was an extensive fisher and fish.carrier. 1, 150 - , P°ll ' of fish this year from Aberdeen was, of haddocks, tkied.°Vs; herrings, 2,78 0 tons • lobsters and crabs, 148 tons -Nl ' 318 tons; -- dried - cod, ' 170 tons; and periwinkles, 300 ti.„ l ,' th - a w ow ought that if they had a railway formed, a great por. t am dbe carried along it. t his 441 Barclay, of Ury, the celebrated pedestrian, deposed that ' 4 w : ‘ v oUld b e of the greatest service to that part of the kingdom, dlr. 441 acc ommodate both the coast and the interior. ' - ",,lee, tl 4 thall here p ut i n t h e traf fi c tables, which, after specifying t i -e t, el. a traffic, receipts, &c., presented a genera l resu l t of 40Cra passengers, 43,161/. ; from goods, 38,6791.; total, , tit ki • o a t,. t ti le ser, superintendent of the Aberdeen Market, Said he D o 4k4l o l', a , r ge of the taking of the passengers' traffic. He had A l tf etn y ' ' ti e tables of Mr. Marshall, and was satisfied they were t„ - ' 7 desh 'str eet. The number of steamers plying southward cif o odee Were eight, two going to London, one to Newcastle, one uot t , lb,' Of th ' and the remainder to Leith. He thought the great a ,e, tbe Passengers who went by this means would go by this erv,„.), eopesent mode of travelling was very uncertain, and they 44 1t tr, Git:then detained at Aberdeen. t o erieh iee r the engineer of the line, Said he had been h tt etir,„ e . for twenty years. He was first instructed Lnele e for this line in 1844. At that time the to',larreyaend Arbroath aas formed and in operation. lie o,_theeoneid s everal lines to ascer: tw"eok,o4lsBlon that this wa_ , b oth as it regarded gradients, and I'lati" of t' inhabitants of the country between the 1 1 at 1 3 1 „ Vt • The Itl io .stimate et the line, including . stations, was b eet h2 e ast -4r Mile, This was much less than if he had gone k irk - ` e* fPo tu Stonehaven to Montrose. The cuttings would r and this induced him to go by Lawrence. 4441arket,„70 the How of the Mearns. The line started from abottt theta' Aberdeen, and about 100 feet from the Post. office, Noses*e atne distance from the principal street, Union-street. to 'Tally °n a level with that street. The station was /ki tals t the harbour and docks, and there was to be a ' ,%; (4ii etl e t nb li int " there. The line, after leaving Aberdeen, ti aelh e eirer Dee at Palmuir, and went on by the coast to 'irk -ten e4and ' t from thence into the interior part of Lawrence thes t ,„ ,ernonating near to Froikheim. There were three R'Nkhein," Made in connexion with the main branch ; one to ts4-44,ittit,-Z, one to Brechin and one to Montrose. The average * tat the were i; lin 169, and the steepest gradient lin 100. The ar,. l / 4 7 ,00, n e he estimated at 830,000/. The cost of the land c ot ti . ti`aa r ,; l o t f t , , , e cost of the cuttings, at Is. 2d. per cubit yard, viki n 37 ,000/., being for 4,092,287 yards; the embank. 4th4e2_eitbs;id&c. 11 3,475/. His. 7d., being for 3,529,220 ridges would cost 27,145/. 7s. ; the culverts and . If t kt ati on , l • 9 5.; the rails and sleepers 157,264/. 16s. , 14, wet, warehouses, &c., 75,954 ; contingencies 73,0001. oh ,, n° engineering difficulties on the line ; no i'el ° lily one road crossed on the level. The estimatet ei lan " ge WAS 33 w ao per cent, on the income. The gradient of ylO l atte3 about o ne -fourteenth of the whole line, or about ard., The railway was in length—main line, 48 miles 66,,vranches, to :Froikheim, 1 mile 1,547 yards; to Bream, +h o c0.. 4 Yards; to Montrose 3 miles 169 yards. mrrnttee then adjourned. GROUP FF. t kziti, ..k, ( ,Cont h,• lt Glit AND NORTHERN LINE. mkt ~,.' 4'h 0 , 1-4 ed from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) 14 41.,e ° -as h ussell, an extensive iron founder at Kirkaldy, IN,. ',0,)0'-'l,tilation of the neighbourhood i.. which he resided , 4 ' 4 iilg , La st Wh° Would all be accommodated by the proposed rail.. ' l / 4 ‘41,: d ' 5 and , ) : e ar 34,575 passengers passed over Grantor), in titti:: iti tll. 4 ern Dudee, by steamers. In the sane period there ~k, t/ . 4 7t) ',same way, 5,675 tons of goods, 2,894 head of : l ataiiZea ar , l / 40 t:p, and 270 dogs. e4 N i , o, : t .tri ao , T Gibbs, an innkeeper at Stirling, and Mr. Robert ' t at a t ,..._tlitt!" of the General Steam Navigation Company's .. " 4 ' u'l l 11 ,• gave corroborative testimony, and the Com. 'l' -3° ‘° •• hed. ). J . -....„.... At ) , (C o 7 it h, 1214, GROUP MT. p v ..."ti3 . 11,q'1l d r , AND PRESTON RAILWAY. ttZDost,i- lot e l t k , l our Afternoon Bdition of yesterday.) bPlair;.°lltheapaeting the line of this railway was opposed by Mr. ''Pr epo s 4 t hat h is l.t et Joseph Fielden, Esq., of Blackburn, who 11,, 4 ,,,'eral ~,N ! l ine a „ property would be very materially injured by 4a - .iti be ^ittle.;e""ci without any necessity. to., ine o , a gre at i ' were called to prove that the proposed deviation a' l diet"thent rnPr overnent on the original plan, getting rid of t'e O f t ' te, , n urv e, and facilitating more the access to the h e tbi,-,,"e cost of the whole line would be 55,4681., and hi,. tbPrearrlbi.eviation would be 3 0001. rQ bgh #er ° f the Bill was agreed to, and the clauses were geli , When the Committee adjourned. I .th is c trist: hth lilitt e GROUP 11. ~,, kt - ut. v i : . blot at twelve o'clock, by adjournment from the , T he p jl'X ()tint Barrington in the chair. Oti'tia rl ' ar nbl v , It , AND CARLISLE RAILWAY. t te 4t '"ed at r no the whole of the clauses (with one exception) clti, e dela y ar'ii! Previous sittings of the Committee, the only t he l ane al c' erh sl 4 from a dispute pending between the Railway ti,; t aa rr er bed, " ' l ies, relative to a demand for compensation Ic t ,, abg erne '' 't 4 e 1. 0 1 „ t 5 bob lit , L hav ing been entered into:by the two parties, sa to '"I r etrlain .e Bill received the sanction of the Committee. czt tlovr lng projects comprised in this group were the it I N : 11 °4 hi., 43b91 11 AND WORKINGTON RAILWAY, ' 4 l e 't , :1 11 -e, only 6 . ~ 4 44 thu o i eavo Miles and 6S chains in length, proposed to k,, t, aYs, aor , ',.n with the Whitchaven, Maryport, and Car. I.t , the projected 11- 4117,, ---`. AND FURNESS JUNCTION kh ll ' lin IV th e .•' 1 8 31 ~,. RAILWAY. we tr,C h gin eer ' le s and 75 chains in length, and Mr. Stephen. li Nt bted ht ty ,„ a; tstated that the estimated cost was 350,0001. '4 5 4 tte i .2 )s dift e j. ier ablY level, and the construction of the line th, t i ?e et ' t very good i e', there being no tunnelling, &c. The gra.. 't'' i t Witnesses t, r ` e e ti le . were examined, to prove the necessity for ''lttritiel'l,olltsitrorinew'ghbourhood through which it would pass. "a etralY4litliteedra:tie°,frered to either of the above projects, and, of the Committee were merely formal. se befor ur o'clock. 11, ° kb o GROUP K. - , 'e'llet,e,4ll 411\TD NORWICH DIRECT. ti,,, t i Nt,. f Jalries Lee (confirmed from our Afternoon Edition , kit,t4laterne of yesterday)- 1tia.,4 , 1 bety'.ebY Mr. CRAMBERS- Supposing a railway were l q % 4r e 4 tirrth,. n B ury and Ipswich, he would still prefer to tl,. Or at '' l ' at i 'at t, O 'eser t t f Lond on, through Lynn, inasmuch as the kt, t :ti ll i)d enfo or Russian larch 111. per ton at Ipswich, and t i iir 4' ported , k 4, N , 1 :•e t :, 1 , 11 ). i '' at ' % 4 4 "d l'y I' tr delivery, either at Lynn or Ipswich. Canadian il,tidneot e xtensively, at Ipswich, and certainly I I:1 , , b. N'e tt, Sii,sex, M r . J AMES -Knows the country about ! I tl i : til l)i,"" ees by rh_and contrasting . the benefits that would , A, l'astb4.,Norwieh%nProposed Digs, . Beccles, and Bury I#`l, .irl it f . ''' as i t Will " . es, gives his decided preference to the ;)k 1. ad of merely direct accommodation to the largest (1701, • C r ows su a r he sold timber to the amount of 5,0001. tr eat !rcbaht, Sur very well, but cannot say if there are tik s 4 i a bi o , 'bPorta th that t iwn ; at any rate no line would be , ~atiorr' uee to it, as it already possesses a very good t eoa , I N ht ) --I 04 4 \% , , 4 ty, and , be district. about Bury is very extensive as a tp 'li t l,:tari c i re `uPplies the navy with its choice produce. ''t I N 3t e rd, eXamt . .. , , a l it , t,, ta„,, r, (Jr . „„ ned I.) Mr. tiETIIERINGTON-h llle r-0. 1,,51t1e, ;LnetfOrd, dealing in coal, oilcakes and other 1, 4 1 1e:44: 1 'r 8,,.. 'bout 8 ,000 tons of goods, including corn, ~ to irl a , about 800 I t I , t 4 'e ir 'sale a , 0 beasts, and 40,000 sheep ar.tl ti 'ti 4, rit l 'atiir s , nnu allY at the town. The inhabitants of :1 14, 4 , 11 1, i 'd Pvti t n . sl Y in favour of the Direct . Norwich line, and 14 1, 41,;:% kti ttl. '4l ' in its favour very numerously and in es, kt ;, s lid Qilt rran t i oi ist , ri a a ,4,_, examined by Mr. LEE-18 a solicitor of tFisati_Nrarn'b lioe7_eonsiderable interest in the success of the i i 'A'-'l . r,, i p . .4 41,usnonsiders it would confer great advantages Nt,' , 4, l'i th, i n „, °n ,l, signed by upwards of 6,000 inha t'ir kit , :wri 1 , i '' u ding the influential bankers and rrier -111(4,h; j) i Xal l ,! ii i. ser iteci n , f avour of the line, arid petitions, equally `iti e t ett e tl b y ~ ,i re rn, every town in the vicinity of the line. p p 44 1.14,, "tr wieh 4 r. Cii AMBERS -1S a considerable shareholder . k „st iv ," . (P::, , t in a p r C e ° „ e m _ s P • allY, and acts as agent at Norwich for Vi i. ili t h ~ o et last i s tonal character. Attended a meeting :.t ~ ; 11,4 .ik N ' i e h ad 81 , ,, a ,bd snoke in favour of the line. The peci t, o', k t laet, s 4 the t own ' e n Was signed by Messrs. Gurney, the h 't,Nl'Ot t "'ers ef t he , as well as by the merchants and de ''', 1 1 4/ , ap a t "car ton tow,. L ' , ,,, , , , fht tf,b.sttnetititee(l,,,hy Mr. GIUDEN Has been for the last 1, 1 4 44 1 e t: s, tti_t o ; i ls_, tto t i a - r `eht of the works between Norwich and ti ! , t4 l iq !,4 ~., I , ..I,l._Pe rese nt farms the majority of the tolls on ti .I,; l ii t i t 1 i. 6,5, 3 , stift.i'een ommunication between Ipswich and 1: 1 t kro t . ''st t t , th eet, we t ° support even one coach ; 8,046 tit through the Brandoii.gate from Diu.. i' , ., 4 to 4 to, e hliti e , 4 ' l "ti' 4, 4 't 3 0 to New t s 'k t l t . .. Ili r .(4 , e market during the last year. On h i es, t)4 e e Was 0 asts and 7 000 sheep passed the Thet. ":•444 1 , , 1 4 41 ,f t t% nudsdagt:vern turn by which the toll could ii, b, i ox.2 .i. sh eep ~sk urnproad about 10,900 head Tie 't (I '', ti t . d ' ket t o k i : Yed toll last year. Never heard of a 'Ol 411 ta' °l 3b, b Y M r m arket. 4, 4 4 14 4 ci k, o e, th e c; WIIATELEY Q. C,_ Knows coaches It.t,4ttltt,t,:t,ritittehistve ,: t r eri garl, the Union, nd others, amount. 11:111 1.1,4.4,.111,0(":1441e popuixn.ails, running to Ipswich every day. \tt,,,l.Noht liars Ab out. :tori about Diss and the districts in I .'4 ' t sale b "wee.:.!> lloo . or 12,000 beasts, and 14,000 r pi at.. It ttt h p e , I,e and I 'B' gswich and Norwich. Remembers t l t ql:aral i 4i llv a , I.° ad, '.: l ° sh een, about ten years since, 1 't t - %, . %„ett b f corotmin.e. reason of the decline Was the ktVe u t. ff: kr. j iLati°n• 4 i),.., 4 r the Gave ,,..s.Nis_ qt,i et le kles , • 740/ a year for the Sud nil a,,, 1, 3, and a total for four tunpikes ko '4 k be tit tl, titt,_ teen a.,_ou h Y, t. Lin need at prayers, the Committee k 4 1 .' I tt ( t, t/ b, 4 ‘ lOU 4, , l'' q 4ti Ne d 4Z :l ill elt% . - tle, - fr, - 11; •i ESTER, AND PORTc ' 11 4t v -sq C4 at A , . ".41 XINVIIT ey o „ -..ter tioo _, • 4 ar i d e . Edition of yesterday). 4 .ilin eer, s • tated that he had laid out 4 and constructed the Guildford and Woking line, and had surveyed the line from Guildford to Chichester. The gradient of 1 in 100 was now a very practicable gradi. nt, and he had applied the gradient of 1 in 110 througout six miles on the Goildferd and Chichester. On the Manchester and I , 4vert;oci Einc there Weiv iradlents of 1 in atd 1 in 86 ; and on the Newcastle and Carlisle line, Which had been constructed by himself, there was the gradient of one 1 in 106, which was four miles long, anti ho thißts , ht, that the gradients on the Guildford and Chichester lint Wei* anything but difficult, inquiries of Mr. this -fan; Mr; gileS stated that the gradients of I in 86, andin 89 Oh the Moncliest6r and Liver pool lin e) we r e edek huh anii a half mile in extent, and no extra. orAiihtiVy ':o',:ver was required to surmount them. He had been kill;;Wed on one occasion to stop the trains during the whole day at the feot of the rise, in order to ascertain this very point, and the engines had all gone over the plane without the momentum, and without any increased power, The rrotko on the South-Western line were, in his opinion, much more difficult than those on the proposed Guilford and Portsmouth line. He had laid out a line to Gosport from Bishopstoke, and also to Portsmouth, but in that line he had never contemplated going to the town of Haslemere, although he had intended to go so near as to give aC. commodation to that town. In 1836 he had attended a meeting at Portsmouth, and there a direct communication with London had been sugzested to, and earnestly advocated by, the people of Portsmouth, In which a connexion with Arundel was included, but no scheme kad ever been projected which did not comprise Chichester. Mr. Locke being recalled, stated that the distance by way of Brighton to Portsmouth f}om London was 95 miles; 50 1 / 2 miles to Brighton fl - oin London.bridge; thence to Shoreham, 5 miles 5 chains; thence to Chichester, 28 miles ti chains; and thence tti Portsmouth, 16 miles, making a few chains less than 95 miles. The present line to Gosport was 88 miles long. By Fareham it would be to Shoreham 84 miles ; thence to Corham, 6 miles; and thence to Portsmouth, 3 miles; making the whole distance about 93 miles. The distance to tlun. gerford.bridge would be 1 mile and 6 furlongs further. He was not aware whether there was any decided agreement between the Brighton and the Chichester Company, though he had understood that the Shoreham Company had leased their line for tan years. To the inquiries of Mr. OSWALD, Mr. Locke stated that there were to be two stations at Chichester—one for the Guildford line and the other for the Shoreham line, both, however, communicating by railway; and there was no reason why both stations should not be amalgamated. The distance by the proposed line from Hungerford was 76 miles, being 18 miles in favour of that line. The whole of the earthworks and works of art without land would cost, from Guildford to Chichester 476,0001., and from Chichester to Portsmouth 180,000/., making together 656,0011. for the whole. On the whole line there would be nihe side ellttinga and fourteen spoll banks ; the former occupying about 31 acres, and the latter 56 acres. Between Chichester and Portsmouth there would be eight side" cuttings, which would occupy from 22 to 24 acres, had improved his plan,and had laid the proposed line down as erOsci'ng it. The terminus iToposed to be erected on the Mylor side, in the event of the Admiralty not consenting to the construction of the VAduct ,and cloclts, would run some distance into the creek on an incline of i trto. rottld offer no obstacle to the shipping, nor would it be liable to produce i:Ecidentr to those employed in connexion with it. At Truro River, which they cross by 5 a viaduct, taking the average tides, the distance across was 11 fireli: Re had never seen vessels " beat" up there. The height of the arch froni cleat es high water was seventy feet, and at low water eighty feet. The river at LESt•!Othiel would be crossed by a bridge without arches. It might prevent getefl to some small hottses in the vicinity, but if it were found objectionable to cross the river of tfiq spot they would alter the course of the line within the limits of dei•lationi and would not entail much additional expense, possibly not ro7e than the crossing of the river as laid down in Vit.: plan. This alteration of the course of the line would cause a raditii of geventeett chaiha. At Polbathie they would have a drawbridge three hundred feet in length- , =the height at high water would be four feet six inches. Some vessels came tip f o r whitestone, which would have to be towed or warped. Cheviot and Tre'rol creeks Would also be crossed by viaducts. At Torpoint they would not interfere With hOte. , e property. The distance across the ferry was about six hundred yards. Vesters in ordinary anchored there. The filag.ship of the Admiralty Cortithl:islontr laid about a mile below. 13y Lord SEYMoUR.—Sent corn at present from Wakefield to Manciseetee by rail. By the ctiAinmAN—Sent a larger quantity by the rail than by canal. Sir John Simpson, examined by Mr. KNowLes—Lived at York. Was a director of the York and North Midland line. Was ex tensively engaged in the coasting and home trade in corn. Was 1101 acquainted with the n•ater communication between Goole and WAketleld, and the line of the projected railway. For bulky articles the water conveyance was, in his opinion, better than the rail, but for small articles it was not so good. He considered that corn was one of the former articles, and he would prefer to send it by canal. The advantage by this means was obtained of seeing the corn in bulk, which was not the case by rail. If the railway was resorted to for the con veyance of corn the market would be entirely removed from Wakefield to Goole. T he canal he considered a cheaper mode of Conveyance. The cost of wheat at present from Goole to Wake field by canal was, including charges, about 13d. per quarter. _ . Cromoternined by Mr. KNOWLES—BuIky goods were at pre sent carried on the canal at Id. a ton or somewhat less. Sent his flour to Manchester and other places by rail. There was not more than one-fifth of the business managed by rail. \Vasa large owner of 'vessels, and was building more to accommodate the increased traffic. r 1.14. York to Manchester the cost of flour by rail was Its. per ton. Mr. DENISON, a member of the Committee, said if the eXafffina lion Wetted te it attars on which the Admit - Pity had to decide, he should object to the cotirse thich Mr. Rowe was pursuing. Mr. RowE said he proposed to she* by the examination of Captain Moorsom, that the bridge itself and the eleCtrical telegraph ereuld be exposed to considerable danger, by ships getting their Ateliers fettled In the chains of the floating bridge. The Committee aSsetited, &AI the examination of Capt. Moorsom, which the Committee had frequently Interrupted, on the ground that Mr. Rowe was guilty of irregularity with relpS'tl to the topics on which he sought to rest his testimony, was resumed. He said, the present boat (which is a very Ingenious contrivance for the cori veyance of general traffic across the Hamoaze, being moved by chains worked by a windlass) would be sufficient for the purposes of the railway. Ve , sels dragging their anchors might get them fouled in the chains, but lie had not heard of any serious inconvenience resulting from them. The electrical telegraph would be worked in an iron tube, which would be kept free from damp, lying at the bottom of the water. The ordinary passage was effected In six or seven minutes. When they arrived at the opposite side, the arranging of the carriages would not occupy more than a minute. The present boat would hold six of the Great Western carriages. Thy wculd have stronger chains if it were possible to obtain them. It had hot been finally arranged whether the engine should be shipped or not, because oh Se Impertant a point lie should not come to a deter mination until the very latest Itiotoent which might be allowed for him to do so. It would not take any tlhie to disengage the engine, as she would run on while the train advanced. In I S4O he reported to the County Committee against carrying a railway across that part of the Hamoaze. Since that time he hag had a good deal of experience in that part of the country, and was now in favour of it. If the South Devon Railway, which had supported the proposed railway in every way, had not been in existence, the whole features of the scheme would be changed. The weight of the rails would be 56Ibs. The witness was then examined as to the permanent way, the power and cost of the engines, the electrical telegraph, and engine-houses, which merely bore out the Cstitnate which he yesterday gave in evidence, and which appeared at length in the Afternoon Edition of The Sun. There would be 40 engines, at a cast of 2,000/. each, and 40 stations on the line. With respect to the Bodmin branch, they must construct the line at the back of Lord Vivian's mansion at Glyn, at an impractl. cable expense, and without answering the objects for which the line was proposed. Other lines must be constructed, but there were great obstacles to all in r,ome instances they would have to make a tunnel beneath the town of Bodmin; other spots would also present great difficulties, not only with respect to gradients, but in expense. The Committee then adjourned until to-morrow. By the CHAIRMAN—The comparative difference of freight and insurance between Yarmouth and Goole and Yarmouth and Hull :Its very trifling—about Id. or 2d. a quarter on freight, and as Ad. to Id. ud )nsurance only on Scotch vessels. By Mr. HoME--The tonnage of the largest ♦essels that come up to York was about 80 tons; vessels of 200 tons could come up to Selby, passing the dangers of the Goole navigation; and saw a vessel there above 200 tons register. Tay IVIr, Buss, on the part of the landowners—York was not principally supplied with coals from the West Riding. The time now occupied in going from Selby to Leeds was from an hour to an hour and a quarter, and the cost was 3s. The time table of the tielby and Leeds, before they leased the line, was an hour, but this was not regularly accomplished—he had been himself often dis appointed. By Mr. lisowtris—From York to Leeds the time now occupied was an hour and a quarter. The fare of the first-class was 2d per mile, and on the Selby and Leeds about the same. Their third-class carriages were very commodious and covered in. When he said that Goole could not compete with Hull, it was only with reference to vessels of a large size. It would be an in ducement for vessels to come to Goole that they could have a cargo of coals back. Mr. Edward Ellice examined by Mr. PICKERING—Lived at Leicester; was an agent there for the - scleof lime. In 1840 the amount sold was 5,092 lons. Thegreater part of this was used fur agricultural purposes. The Crich lime was used almost entirely for these purposes, The price at the works was 6s. to Cs. 6d. per ton. The present sate paid per railway from Crich to Penistone was Id. Per ten per mile. To Mr. GuaNct —Mr. Locke replied that there was an arrange ment between the Government and the South-Western Company for the electric telegraph to Portsmouth for ten years, for which they were to pay 1,5001. a year. The London end of the tele graph was to be at the Admiralty, and there would be a great ad vantage by the orophsed line In avoiding the water at Gosport. To the lutpilries of Mr. OssvaLn Mr. Locke replied that it was intended to cross four turnpike levels at a level, near two of which there would be stations. Mr. Long, formerly a resident at Portstnouth, and who, since that time had held an appointment as police magistrate in Van Dieman's Land—He had always taken a great interest in the railway communication with Portsmouth ; indeed every tiitisltion for a public meeting and every resolution had been drawn up by him. In 12136 the secretary and solicitor of the Southampton line had called upon him with a view to establish a communication with their line, but at that time, the desire of the inhabitants was for a line eastward; but he now thought that the proposed Guilford line was the best for the business transactions of Portsmouth. In his opinion the proposed line was at least 40,000/. a year better than the two other lines, and there was, he felt assured—no feeling ofjealousy at all of the South-Western Company, and though he did not now reside at Portsmouth he took the same interest in the town as before. Mr. Horne was recalled, and put in a comparative table of the Cross.examined by Mr. HONE—The Crich was a mountain lime, the other lime refereed to was a magnesian lime. Sold it to farmers, Edward Ward, Esq., examined by Mr. KNOWLES— Was a ma gistrate, residing near Selby. Had an extensive coal proporty. Very few ships get to Selby, as compared with Goole, in con sequence of the difficulty of the navigation. Shipped 38,500 tons of coals during the last five years, and was convinced if he had had the advantages of the rail, he could have shipped a great deal more. The Leeds and Selby Railway passed for eight miles over a bed of coals. The price of the best quality of coals at the pit's mouth was ss. sd. per ton, and if the railway were made, the price of coals at Goole would be the same as at York. Could not send the coals to Hull, as there was no dock communication there with the Humber. The charge from all the pits to York was 4d. per ton. The proposed Wakefield and Goole line would be of no use what ever to the coal-pits about Selby and that district. Had lime quarries in that neighbourhood also; sold lime at the works for 7s. per ton. Cross-examined by Mr. WILKINS—Sent more building lime at present to Manchester than agricultural. The London and York line and two other proposed lines (if any one of them were carried) would by a junction with the Wakefield, Pontefract, and Goole lines, give all the facilities of conveyance which the proposed Brayton and Goole line promised. Cross.examined by Mr. Buss—Could not say how long it would f t ,ko to work out his pits. He could not say whether they would be done in a year. Sold his coals at Selby for 7s. 2d., and at York at 63. Bd. There was no important town on the proposed line—it an:agricultural country which was not very denaely passed through populated. Knew the Hon. Mr. Petre's estate. The Leeds and Selby and four other p 7ojected railways were to go through it, and would completel cut it IC' The proposed line wa s one o f th em . y Mr. Michael Bentley, exai. , f ined by Mr. PICKERING—Was a lime o btirner. Had nine vessels env..yed with Goole i n th e coas ti ng ^ejected Wakefield, Pontefract, fares charged by the Birmingham, the South-Eastern, and the South Western Companies, from which it appeared that the proposed charge was the same, or less, than those charged by other companies. The maximum charges for passengers were intended to be 3d., 2d., and Id. per mile for first, second, and third-class passengers. Mr. GURNEY then put in the agreement for the lease of the Guildford and Woking line, and also proposed clauses for securing the working of the line to Portsmouth as efficiently as it was now worked to Southampton. This closed the case for the promoters. Mr. RAWLINSON then stated that he and Mr. Sergeant Talfourd had agreed to amalgamate their cases, and proposed that the latter Learned Counsel should address the Committee in opening, and he himself, if they thought proper, after the examination of their witnesses. This being agreed to, Mr. Sergeant fALFOURD proceeded to address the Committee on behalf of the inhabitants of Portsmouth. He said that putting out of the question that important connexion of the town with the great naval power of the country, the whole of the population of the district from Chichester to Portsmouth, if taken within seven miles of the line, there was little in excess over that of the town itself, and if it was taken within five miles the disproportion in the numbers was still less, and he therefore thought the feelings of the people of Portsmouth were entitled to great consideration. Now, in the course of his opening, Mr. Cockburn had made the admission that the feeling of the people of Portsmouth was decidedly in favour of the atmospheric line, and against the Guildford line. Mr. Casher, the Mayor, had admitted that on the 7th of the present month he had presided over a meet ing both very numerous and highly respectable, at which not more than fifty hands had been held up in favour of the line of the South- Western Company. From this meeting a petition had emanated, which, in the course of four days, had been signed by upwards of nine thousand persons. trade. Was acquainted with the P. and Goole line. It Would not benefit Is..q ° LbngleY. Lime could be sent at present for Is. (At per ton by can between Knottingley . A and Goole. Water was a mtith preferable uliotlr. of conveyance to rail. The dues in Selby canal were about 15". for' cargo of 50 or 60 tons, and the cost altogether to Goole would be at'iQPt 18s. Wet injured lime very much. A great quantity of this lime went east. ward to Lincolnshire, &c., for agricultural purposes. The Speaker having been announced to be at prayers, the C..'ra mittee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. GROUP X. LONDON AND YORK LEND. GENERAL TRAFFIC EVIDENCE. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday), in about twenty minutes the parties were readmitted, when The CHAIRMAN said he had been instructed by the Committee to state that they could not assent to the proposition of the opposing counsel; but, considering the great importance of this case, the Committee would have no objection to adjourn now until half-past eleven to-morrow, provided the opposing counsel could assure the Committee that they had not had sufficient time to examine the traffic tables, and the Committee would sit until five o'clock to. morrow. With respect to the fictitious signatures attached to that petition he should show that they were put to it in several instances as a mere joke, and in one case the name of the Earl of Dalhousie had been signed by the clerk of Mr. Gauntlett, who had himself ap. peared as a witness to vitiate that petition, and in the presence of that gentleman's son. This he adduced not to throw any stigma on the promoters of the Bill, but to show how in a large place like Portsmouth such irregularities a , ..; these would easily be fallen into, but if he stood there merely as the representative of the five respectable individuals who were appointed by that meeting, and getting the petition altogethvs aside, still the reeling. of the people were entitled to respect. With regard to the feeling of jealousy between the towns of Southampton and Portsmouth, it was quite natural. Considering the position of the two towns, arid the Isle of Wight, and the increase of importance of South ampton, this was quite natural, and when the inhabitants of Ports mouth saw that the whole of the traffic was under the direction of people who, from their connexion with the South-Western line and the place to which it ran, naturally feit a great interest in tl.at place, would, in all probability, give a preference where their interests were so largely cone :med. It was, therefore, to say the least, but little likely that Portsmouth would receive its due share of consi.• deration. Sufficient evidence had been adduced to show that the people of Portsmouth had always desired a line directly to London. And what he would ask, therefore, was, not a preference for the atmospheric line, but that the Committee would pause before they decided. It was perfectly evident that if this line was made. another could not be hoped for ; for if this was once achieved, the capital once invested, no change could possibly be expected, and the people of Portsmouth would be handed over in perpetuity to the South-Western Com pany, who would unquestionably obtain a completely despotic power over the interests of the 60,000 persons who constituted the population of Portsmouth and Pcrtsea. This, therefore, was no case of common monopoly, but it was an entire despotism over an Mr. WEBSTER said he felt he only echoed the sentiments of his Learned Friends with him when he said that he looked upon those tolls to be of such vast importance, that he would feel exceedingly obliged to the Committee for adopting this course. Mr. Sergeant KINGLAKE said, that as the Committee had come to this resolution, he would now propose that the engineering evidence should be entered upon. The reason he mad this pro position was in order to save time, the importance of which to the promoters of the London and York line would be best understood when he stated that these expenses amounted to something like 3,000/. a day. Mr. WEBSTER, on behalf of the Cambridge and Lincoln line, said he believed it would be better for him to meet the traffic evidence by contra evidence, than by cross_examining the witnesses. The Committee then consulted for a short time, after which The CHAIRMAN said the Committee would have no objection to adopting the course suggested by the Learned Sergeant; but they would take up the traffic cross-examination to-morrow morning. Mr. Sergeant KINGLAKE said he hoped that, once the engineer. ing evidence was entered upon, it should be concluded before the traffic cross-examination should be entered upon; for if he were now to call Mr. Cubist, and that gentleman was to be cross examined, and then the engineering evidence to be broken in upon, great inconvenience and confusion would be the result. The opposing Counsel said they would be very glad that the engineering evidence should be concluded first. The CHAIRMAN said he had been told that the engineering evi dence would occupy a week ; however, they would now proceed with it. Mr. Barff was then recalled, and deposed that upwards of 14,000 tons of wool would pass on the London and York line in a year. After one or two unimportant questions, THE ENOINEERINU EViIiENCZ important port, which, notwithstanding their utmost energy, they could never throw off. Then, with respect to the clauses which were proposed to secure the interest of the people of Portsmouth, they all knew, from the experience and the incidents in the courts of law, that this was no sufficient defence, as was shown in the case of Mr. Parker and the Great Western Railway, in which he had been engaged. That Company had thought proper to mark out Mr. Parker as the object of theirjea lousy, and had charged him an extra sum for his packages over the amount charged to their pet contractors, Messrs. Chaplin and Horne; had refused to allow him to put several parcels together; or to deliver to his own customers. It was true, Mr. Parker had succeeded in defeating the Company, partly through his (Mr. Ser geant TalfouriPs) instrumentality, but it was not every person that possessed the gallantry of Mr. Parker, and it was well known that the leading men in public companies brought all their intellect and experience to bear on the interests of the property with which they were connected, and left all their sympathies behind them. He did not mean to throw out anything dispa raging either against Mr. Brunel, the engineer, or against his own late colleague, the Chairman, both of whom were men of the highest character. Mr. GURNEY—The Great Western Company are not repre. sented here. Mr. Sergeant TM-EC/VIM—Nor are they misrepresented, the termini of this line was at London at one end and at Ports mouth at the other. In the one instance at a place Where all interest was lost in the general mass, but at the other it was alto. gcther of vital import. By the proposed line the rates both of car. riage and of passenger traffic would be Mbell higher than by the atmospheric principle. Now that principle was under active expe riment, and he trusted the time would shortly arrive when it would be universally adopted. It would both be cheaper and more expeditious than the locomotive principle. Even Mr. Carter had stated that if the time was to be less, and the expense no more, he would prefer the atmospheric prin ciple—and that that principle was no illusion, was evident from the fact of money and ability having been already extensively pledged to it. And at any rate, whatever be the merits of the two principles, the Portsmouth people said that so great was their jealousy of the South-Western Company that they would endure all the inconveniences which they now experienced, and wait a little longer, rather than submit themselves and their children to a monopoly which it would, if this Guildford line Were now granted, be in all future time utterly impost.ble to break through. Moreover, there was the coast line, which would still give as the advantages to Chichester of a London communication with Portsmouth, and also a connexion with Chatham and the other great areenals of the country. They would prefer that line if they could not get the atmospheric, but would rather, for this session, that things should remain as they are than that this Bill should pass, Mr. G. Sprague was then called, and stated that he hod signed the petition at Hyde-park-corner, in Portsmouth, and testified that several of the fictitious signatures attached tO the petition had been put to it through this instrumentality of Mr. Gauntlett's clerk, and it was his impression that many of the signatures were not genuine. To the inquiries of Mr. MoNewrox MILNES, the witnesses stated that ten out of twelve of the people of Portsmouth were in favour of the atmospheric. Itis reasons for preferring the atmospheric line was, in the first place, the atmospheric company promised them three third - class trains should run during the day ; secondly, that the fares would be lower; and, thirdly, that be believed the railway would be safer. If the atmospheric line were not obtained he believed the Portsmouth people would prefer the coast line. Mr. Erasmus Jackson, a banker at Portsmouth, and now cham berlain of the borough, who hail taken an active part in all that had passed, during the last ten years, with respect to a railway to the town, stated that the feeling of the inhabitants was decidedly in favour of the atmospheric line. He had been chairman of a deputation, in 1838, which hail had two communications with the Directors of the South-Western Railway, who had expressed their inability or disinclination, or both, to give any better line to Portsmouth than the branch to Gosport, and their ex pectation of getting the whole of the trade of Portsmouth and Portsea, through Gosport, and certainly he had never heard of the Guildford line until some time after the atmospheric line hid been projected and published. The witness also bore testimony to the feeling expressed at the two meetings of the inhabitants, and stated his opinion that the London-bridge terminus, which was that of the atmospheric line, would be more convenient to the inhabitants of Portsmouth than the one at Vauxhall. The atmospheric termi. nos at Portsmouth was also better than that of the other line, both for High -street and the Steam-packet Quay. The cross-examination of Mr.GuaNcy, obtained a conformation of this evidence, but further that the inhabitants had thrown out a Bill on its second reading, the object of which was to make a line to Portsmouth by the South-Western Company. To the inquiries of Lord CLIN e, Mr. Jackson stated, that the atmospheric terminus would by a little longer line of rail be enabled to communicate with the dockyard. And to the inquiries of the CHAIRMAN and Mr. OswAtn, he said that, in his opinion, the atmospheric line would be decidedly the best, and this opinion was based on the contiguity of the Isle of Wight, and the attraction of the traffic through the town. The Committee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. GROUP N. CORNWALL RAILVITA.Y. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday). Captain sloorsom said the viaduct would be 500 feet in length. He could not say whether the Admiralty had given their assent or not to the construction of the viaduct. In 1 840 he projected a line which 'multi have avoided Penryn Creek, but subsequently he 11 S - UN, LONDON, SATITR DA Y EVENING, MAY 31, 1845. BEDFORD STATION. Fencing Earth and Vorks Bridges, Viaducts, &c. Contingencies Total Permanent Ways Station Works Land compensation Grand total. STAMFORD BRANCH. Fencing ... Earth and Works Bridges, Viaducts, &c. Fcr Works, total Contingencies Total Permanent Ways Station Tqtal Land and Compensation... ..... .... Grand total Making a grand total for the whole of the six branches, the tributaries, and the loup, 20,978 2,092 23,070 18,000 4,000 45,070 11,868 56,983 distance 328 miles, of Witness believed this sum would be sufficient to cover all expenses, including incidental. It was the highest rate of charges upon any line that he was aware of. With regard to the station at King's_ cross, the passenger station there would occupy ten acres of ground, and the depot for coals, goods, &c., about forty.nine acres; the stations would be placed at opposite sides of the Re gent's Canal; that static*, would cost about 50,0001. or 60,000/. ; he had allowed 150,0001. for it, including the Lind, plant, &c. The York station would be entered at the south side of the old wall of the city, by the gaol, and the Trinity-gardens; it would be small as compared with the London station, and would cost about 50,0001.; it would cross the York and North Midland ticket stage. Supposing that the land was obtained, and all the usual difficulties removed, and in fact that those employed to make the road had their own way—(Laughter)—he should say that the whole line would be complete in three years. In answer to some questions in cross-examination from Mr. TALBOT, the witness said his estimate did not include the Parlia mentary expenses.—(Laughter.) The expenses for locomotive plan, such as carriages, plant, &c., he supposed would be about 3,0001. per mile, or about one million more in addition to the six millions and a half. This was a very expensive line certainly ; the cost per mile for the first 20 miles from London would be about 38,0001. per mile, or 36,000/. per mile for the first 30 miles. Had often heard of contractors being obliged to exceed their contracts. Had heard of an estimate of 1,400,0001. for a South-Western line, and it cost 2,306,0001. The Committee adjourned at half-past four o'clock. RAILWAY RETURNS. RAILWAY TRAFFIC.—The following are the Total Receipts of Rail. ways for the past week—that is to say, up to the date to which the respective returns are made, together with the receipts of the same week in the previous year:— •cr Week Last 3 1 ~.; ending NAME OF RAILWAY, c., , week. .•• ' . 7 - - - :°. O u) L... X X May 24 Arbroath and Forfar •••.• • • 23 Bristol and Birmingham .•••••• • • • • • • 3,738 2,227 25 Chester and Birkenhead ...•.•• • • • • • • 612 431 22 Dublin and Drogheda •••••••. • • • • • • • • 1,002 - 27 Dublin and Kingstown •. • • .... .•• • • . 1,042 1,214 2:5 Dundee and Arbroath .•• • • 24 Durham and Sunderland ............. 333 2 9 24 Edinburgh and Giasgow .•••.•.• • • • • 2,834 2,534 25 Eastern Counties and North Eastern.. 5,068 4,724 24 Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ayr ••• • • • 1,884 1,454 24 Glasgow and Greenock ••••• • • • • •• • • 1,102 890 24 Grand Junction . • • 10,005 8,115 24 Gravesend and Rochester.. • • ........ 158 - 24 Great North of England . ..... .....• 1,873 1,370 18 Great Western ....•.• 24 Hull and Selby ••••••.•••• • • • • • • • • • • 1,352 1,115 24 Liverpool and Manchester 6,406 4,819 24 London and Birmingham .•••.• • • . • • 20,407 18,193 25 London and Blackwall .. . 1,018 915 24 London and Brighton. ••••••• • • • • • • • 4,454 3,531 •27 London and Croydon .••• • • • 24 London and Greenwich ....• 24 London and South Western .•••. • • • • 7,000 8,058 25 Manchester, Bolton, and Bury ...... 981 - 23 Manchester and Birmingham •• • • 24 Manchester, Leeds, and Hull Assoc.. 6,117 5,031 24 Midland Counties ...• • • ...... •• . • • 11,882 8,802 24 Newcastle and Darlington • • .....• • • 1,156 669 24 Newcastle and Carlisle..•••• •••• •• • • 1,571 1,563 25 Newcastle and North 5hie1d5........ 334 823 - North Union and Bolton and Preston - 1,306 - Paris, Corbeil, and Orleans.- ... .... - 5,710 26 Paris and Rouen .•••••.•.•• • • • • • • • • 5,217 5,874 24 Preston and Wyre.................. 444 307 0 4 Sheffield and Manchester..." ....... 826 571 -.. 24 South Eastern.. •.•••.•.•• • • • • • • • • • • 4,861 - 24 "aIT Vale .•••••••••• • • • • • • • • • • • 1,061 871 - Uls: t. er ••••• • • • • ...... ............... ___ 534 25 y arin ,'Uth and Norwich 24 York an.: North Midland ........... 2,623 1,664 ABDICATIOi OF DON CARLOS. We copy the following important documents relative to the affairs of Spain from the ;runes of this morning : (DON CARLOS) TO LETTER OF - KING CHARLES V. ASTURIAS. THE PRINCE OF THE " My most beloved Son,—Having deter..' , lined to retire from po litical affairs, I took the resolution of renourh:ing in your favour my rights to the Crown, and transmitting them to you. Conse quently, I place in your hands the act of my renui.ciation, which you may use when you deem it opportune. " I pray the Almighty to accord to you the good fortune to re store peace and union to our unhappy country, and thus to secure the welfare of all Spaniards. " From this day I assume the title of Count de Molina, which it is my intention to bear hereafter. " CHARLES. " Bourges, the 18th of May, 1845." ABDICATION OF HIS MAJESTY CHARLES V. (DON CARLOS). " When Divine Providence called me to the throne of Spain at the death of my well.beloved brother and lord, King Ferdinand VII., confiding to me the safety of the monarchy and the hap piness of Spaniards, I saw in my new position a sacred duty, and, penetrated with sentiments of Christian charity, and trusting in God, I devoted my existence to that painful task. On a foreign land as in the camp, in exile as at the head of my faithful sub jects, and even in the solitude of captivity, the peace of the monarchy was my only wish, the object of my activity, and of my perseverance. Everywhere the welfare of Spain has been dear to me. I respected its rights. I did nut feel any ambition to be pos sessed cf power, and under such circumstances my conscience re mained tranquil. " The voice of that conscience and the advice of my friends ap prise me at present, after so many efforts, attempts, and sufferings, supported without success, for the happiness of Spain, that Divine Providence does not reserve to me the power to accomplish the task with which I was charged, and that the moment has arrived to transmit that task to him whom the decrees of Heaven invite, as they previously invited me. In renouncing at present for my person the rights to the crown which the death of my brother, King Ferdinand VII., accorded me—in transmitting these rights to my eldest son, Charles Louis, Prince of the Asturias, and in notifying this renunciation to the Spanish nation and Europe, by the only means of which I can dispose, I discharge a debt of con. science, and I retire to pass the remainder of my days removed from every political occupation in domestic tranquillity, and with the ;peace of a pure conscience, praying to God for the happiness and the glory of my dear country. :: Pourges, May 18." ___ " CHARLES. REPLY Or HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS THE PRINCE OF THE ASTURIAS. "My well.beloved Father and Lord,—.l have read with the most profound respect the letter with which your Majesty honoured me this day, and the act annexed to it. An obedient and submissive son, my duty is to conform to the sovereign will of your Majesty. I have in consequence the honour to lay at your feet the act of my acceptance. Following the good example your Majesty gives me, I assume from this day, and for as long as I shall deem it advisable, the title of Count of Montemolin. Grant, Heaven, that my most ardent vows may be accom. puished, and that your Majesty may enjoy every prosperity ever de manded for you by your most respectful son, " Dourgcs, May IS." " CHARLES LOUIS. ACCEPTANCE OF THE PRINCE OF THE ASTURIAS. " I took cognisance, with filial resignation, of the determination which the King, my august father and lurd, made known to me to.day, and, in accepting the rights and duties which he freely transmits to me, I undertake a task which I will accomplish, God aiding, with the same sentiments and the same devotion to the security of the monarchy and happiness of Spain. " Bourges, May 18, 1845." "CHARLES LOUIS. MANIFESTO OF THE PRINCE OF THE ASTURIAS. 9.,720 18,467 13,044 3,423 " Spaniards,--The new situation in which lam placed by the renunciation which my august father has designed to make in my favour of his rights to the Crown, imposes upon me the duty of addrassing you. Do not believe, Spaniards, that I intend to cast amongst you a brand of discord. Su:Ncient blood and sufficient tears have been shed. My heart recoils at sole recollection of strophes, and shudders at the sole idea ot"., their recurrence. past nil: eve,,: s of the last years will, n o d ou b t, have lei.' nrejudices The in some .Y and they perhaps suppose me sn.:mated against me with the desire of avengn.old wounds. There i s no room i n heart for such a sentiment. It, 000 day, Divine Providence throws I open to me the gat( of my countly, will know no party, and make no distraction between Spaniards, ' ' • - " During the different phaiefo of the revolution there have been accomplished serious changes in the political and social organiza tion of Spain. There are some which I hare assuredly deplored, as it became a Christian Prince and a Spaniard. They deceive themselves, however, who believe that I am so destitute of know. ledge of the real position of affairs as to suppose that I wish to accomplish what is impossible. lam aware that the best mode of avoiding the return of revolutions is not obstinately to destroy all that has been constructed, and to reconstruct all that has been destroyed. Justice without violence, reparation without re-action, a prudent and equitablecompromise between all interests, by utiliz ing and turning to advantage so many good institutions bequeathed to us by our ancestors, without at the same time opposing the spirit of till age as far as those inspirations are salutary—such is my policy. " A question is attached to my family which originating at the conclusion of the reign of my august uncle, Ferdinand VII. (Q. S. G. G.), excited a civil war. I cannot forget what I owe to my personal dignity, nor sacrifice the interests of my august family. But I assure you from this moment, Spaniards, that it shall not depend on me if the dissension I deplore be not for ever extin guished. There is no sacrifice compatible with my honour and my conscience to which I am not disposed, in order to put a con clusion to civil discord and to hasten the reconciliation of the royal family. " 1 speak to you, Spaniards, candidly and from my heart. I desire to present myself amongst you with words of peace, and not with the war cry. It would be to me the subject of great grief, if I find myself ever obliged to deviate from that line of conduct. Under every circumstance I depend upon your correct sense of right, upon your love for the Royal Family, and on the assistance of Divine Providence. " If Heaven grants me the happiness of again treading the soil of my country, I wish only to be surrounded by your loyalty and your affection. Ido not wish to feel any desire in my heart but that of consecrating all my life in effacing even the recollection of past discords, and in cementing your union w ith general pros perity and the happiness of all, which will not be difficult to me, if, as I expec t, y ou will aid my ardent desires with the qualities which are stamped on your national character, —with the love and the respect you bear to the holy religion of our ancestors, and that magnanimity which has ever induced you to give your life when it became impossible to preserve it without disgrace. "Bourget, May " CH ARLES LOUIS." FOOT-RACE IN THE LONG WALK, WlNDSOR.—Yes terdav afternoon a foot-race against thne, which excited considerable interest, came off in the Long-walk , Dent, a private in the 2d batta lion of the Coldstream regiment of Foot Guards, stationed at Windsor, having been backed by the officers of the regiment, to a consider able amount, to run one mile in five minutes. The ground selected (half a mile out aid in) was from the Long-walk gates in the Frog more-road towards the double-gates, and back. The backers of time wore the winners, the man lining the race by only twelve seconds. The Court of Aldermen met yesterday, but no busincss of public importance was transacted. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, May 30. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. MAYNOOTH. Lord KENYON presented 130 petitions, signed by 9,742 persons, against the proposed grant to 711aynooth ; and 62 petitions, signed by 6,523 persons, against the permanent en dowment of that College. Lord FITZHARDING also presented petitions against the grant. - The Bishop of SALISBURY presented a large number of petitions to the same effect, and said he heartily concurred in the prayer of the petitioners. The measure, he thought, would have the effect of shaking the foundation of the connexion be tween the Church and the State. The Marquis of CLEVEL AND presented a petition from the Governors of Christ's Hospital, praying their exemption from the effects of the Charitable Trusts Bill, at present before the House. The Duke of CAMBRIDGE presented a similar petition from the Foundling Hospital, and supported its prayer. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from mem bers of the Free Church of Scotland against the grant to May nooth. LORD CAMPBELL presented a petition from Dudley, complaining of the working of the 20/. clause in the Debtors' Bill, and praying its reconsideration. LORD CL ARE presented a petition from Limerick in favour of the grant to Maynooth, and LORD RODEN presented petitions from Armagh, Maiden head, Guernsey, Windsor, Gravesend, Belfast, the counties of Down and Leitrim, and various other districts. The LORD CHANCELLOR presented several petitions from Ireland in favour of the grant to Maynooth. Lord KINNAIRD presented a petition against the grant from a body of persons who were opposed to State endowments. The Hishop of St. DAVID'S presented petitions against the grant, and regretted he could not agree with the prayer of the petitioners. The Earl of ELDON presented several petitions to the same effect. The Earl of WINCHILSEA presented forty-seven peti tions of a similar nature. The Bishop of CASHEL presented petitions from severa places in Ireland against the increased grant to Maynooth. The Bishop of BANGOR also presented a petition against the grant to Maynooth. The Bishop of ST. A SAPH presented a petition against the union of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. Lord COTTENHAM presented a petition against the grant to Maynooth. The Bishop of LLANDAFF presented a petition against the grant to Maynooth, and expressed his concurrence in the prayer. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY and the Bishop of LoN BON presented similar petitions from numerous places. The Bishop of EXETER presented petitions from Clifton, St. Clere, Kingsbridge, and various other towns in Cornwall and Devon, against the grant to Maynooth. The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented 168,petitions, signed by 22,356 individuals, from various parts of England and Scotland, against the grant to Alaynooth. The Earl of DE% ON presented several petitions from Stockport, Bolton, Manchester, and other places in the north of England, in favour of the Calico Print Works Bill. Lord PORTMAN presented a petition, praying the pro ceeds of the income-tax to be applied to the support of the poor. Lord DACRE brought in a Bill upon the game-laws, and moved that the second reading be taken on Monday fortnight. Lord BROUGHAM, in reply to a question from Lord Ash burton, said that he would take the second reading of the Bill to amend the Insolvent Debtors' Act of last year, espe cially in respect to the 201. clause, now, and wait for a further stage any discussion upon its merits. The LORD CHANCELLOR thought that the Bill should be read before any further proceedings were taken. CALICO PRINT WORKS BILL. The Duke of BUCKINGHAM moved the order of the day for the second reading of the Calico Print Works Bill. Lord BROUGHAM protested against their proceeding, year after year. to legislate in a wrong direction. They were doing all they could, by their legislation, to injure the working classes. They were treating them, in fact, with great cruelty, under the guise, false garb, and outside of humanity. It was held, by those in favour of the Bill, that if a man worked at night he did not perform his task so well as if it were performed during the day ; it was, therefore, not intended so much to re lieve young persons, children, and females—which was a very humane, reasonable, and judicious measure—as to make the work in which they were engaged better—to make the patterns better and more accurate than those produced in the ordinary hours of work. He took the same objection to this Bill as he did to the former one. In the preamble, which set forth that it was expedient to limit the hours of labour of children, young persons, and children in f ac tories, h e w ou ld su b s tit u t e for the word expedient. "inexpedient," as he considered it inexpedient to regulate the hours which the people should labour, and that it would be better for the Legislature to regulate its own business and to let other people's alone, especially where their inter ference was no: justifiable. Labour was the capital of the workmen, and it was contrary to justice and sound policy to interfere with what ought to be left entirely free. It must not be supposed that by preventing children working after nine o'clock at night, they alone stopped the labour of the children, both men and masters were equally retarded, and the greatest abuses would be incurred. He objected to the Bill generally, on principle, but the part which he considered chiefly ob noxious was the interference with female labour. If humanity were to be the order of the day, he would ask, why did they allow painters to meddle with white lead, which reduced them to paralytics—steel-workers to pursue a trade from which con sumption supervened—or horse-jockeys to lay up for them selves the most noxious diseases, in order to contribute to the pleasures of those humanity-hunters. The Bill he considered fallacious in principle, and, as such. should protest against it. The Marquis of NORMANBY thought every dictate of humanity, morality, and experience contradicted the argu ments of his Noble Friend, who, with his accustomed ability, had opposed the Bill. The testimony of both roasters and workmen had been satisfactorily evinced as unequivocally favourable to the measure. Petitions had been laid on their Lordships' table from every class of factory labourer and pro prietors, praying for the interposition of the Legislature, and to confirm the views of these authmitative parties, he would refer to the report of Mr. Tremelier, in which the benefits that had accrued to the female colliery miners had been ably and satis factorily established. The Earl of RADNOR concurred with his Learned Friend (Lord Brougham) in protesting against the constant meddling of the Legislature with the private affairs of the people. The system now to be interfered with had existed with advantage to the factory population, and he foresaw nothing but evil in attempting to change it. Lord CAMPBELL agreed with the general principle of the Bill, but considered the second clause as unnecessary, if not prejudicial. There was no analogy between the cases of col liery female labourers and those working in factories. The former custom was productive of immorality, but the latter of industry. A woman of forty years of age, with a large family, would, he conceived, devote the hours from which she was now debarred. to the diselaarge of her duties as a wife and mother. Nevertheless, he regarded the principle of the measure as sound, and its enactments beneficial, and should give it his cordial support. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH wondered that the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Brougham), after assenting to the preamble of a similar Bill in 1833, should now enter his violent opposition to this measure. He had hesrd nothing in the course of the discussion to change his views, and should, therefore, move that the Bill be now committed. Lord BROUGHAM explained that in 1833 he had agreed to the general principle of the measure, apart from the inter ference with female labour. The Bill then went into Committee, and after receiving a few verbal amendments was reported. POST-OFFICE REGULATIONS. On th&motion for the second reading of the Post-office Regu lations Bill, Lord RADNOR expressed his entire concurrence in theprin ciple of the measure—a measure which had been rendered the more necessary, by the unseemly disclosures made last session of a system as unjustifiable as it was disgraceful. Nobody really knew what the law of the case was. Seine thought. the right of stopping letters was vested in the Crown. But he was never able to ascertain that it was any part of the preroga tive of the Crown to open the letters of individuals. If such was the prerogative of the Crown it must have been a practice as ancient as the establishment of the Post-office itself ; but he never knew that it was authorised by any court of law. It was a secret mode of proceeding, and therefore no one could set about disputing it, for no one knew when it was practised. He could not help also remarking on the immorality of the prac tice. He was not one of those who believed that the State had a conscience, though there were some who kindly gave them credit for one. It was, he contended, a betrayal of confidence. They obliged the public to use the Post-office, and that being the case, they should guarantee inviolability to anything com mitted to it. The copying of Mazzini's seals was most disreputable. It was a farce to talk of the morality of the State after that. But if anything was necessary to prove the danger and immo rality of the practice, it was the ewe of the letter-carriers, who had merely copied the example which had been set them by their betters, and had merely been dismissed without any further punishment being inflicted. He spoke from the re ports only which he read in the newspapers of the circumstance, but he believed they were correct. By a reference to the Acts, the 9th of Queen Anne, and the Ist of her present Majesty, he found that the power of issuing warrants for detaining and opening letters was assumed as vested already, rather than granted, to the Lore-Lieutenant of Ireland and the Secretary , of State for England. The power of indemnifying the Post master-general for obeying these warrants was merely given , by the Acts ; but that was a very different thing from i giving authority to the Secretary of State to exercise i s oh powers. If the question were tried in a court of law, he had no doubt but it would be found that no such mes t 'fisted. Whether the mode new proposed to re mits% edy i bi s state of things met with the approval of their Lordahip: it : was not for him to say, but if they ac ceded to the main eatures of it, it would be very easy in Com mittee to regulate th: details of the Bill. The Noble Lord then read extracts from the reports of the Committees in both . Houses which had been em tinted to inquire into the practice . of opening and detaining f e tt,:rs, and commented upon them two lists of warrants issued a fr s om he th p e ro H ee o e m d e e d.o . ffic T e .herlenwteh r e e i rsl l . list, embracing a period of n 2 t t o he l7 o 9 6 B e , r r fernmhuit.77o to 1844, comprising a and one warrants rising and seventy-two Bha6a period rbieoedr years, oi from issued. s u e d 1 l l he considered, very forty-five years, three hundred warrants had been issued. Now, that was, anaroma in _ remarkable. In the first period there had been cent, Of warrants relating to these eight, moreover, only two were . crease of li per cent., and in the other of 8 per resented the least ' feeling was not much enlisted as they p public sedi tion. The rest were criminal warrants, in respect to which temptation to abuse. . himself t ffices esed towo o . Bill. The Noble Earl had prop the conditions under Lord STANLEY felt it to be his public ut to oppose the State should have the power of opening which the Secretary of eA The second office was to ' ' letters at the Post-office. The first was to define the law and define or detaining the exercise of th e power. - alter the law in such a manner as to impose new restrictions upon Now, he would venture to say that the Noble Lord, when he attempted to define the law, : • left the law just as undefined as he found it. He also imposed restriction on the exercise of the power, which restriction ab solutely.rendered the law itself imperative. Now there were ne political considerations connected with this question, it only tended to modify, instead of abolishing the power ; far all they had to discuss was simply whether it was necessary to confer on the Secretary of State the power of detaining or opening letters at the Post-office. It was admitted by the Noble Earl that the power, under certain circumstances, must still be left in the hands of the Secretary of State, but they were now called upon to inquire in what manner that power could be amended or modified. Now he (Lord Stanley) would nut enter into a discussion as to the origin of this power, nor would he venture to say that the power was one of the prero gatives of the Crown ; but this he did say, that the Act of Anne was not the Act which gave the power to the Secretary of State. The Act of Anne was the first Act which made it a misdemeanour, and rendered persons liable to a penalty for opening a letter passing through the Post-office, without the warrant of one of her Majesty's prin cipal Secretaries of State. Previous to that Act no criminal proceedings could be taken against any person for detaining or opening any letter passing through the Post-office, but that Act made it a punishable offence to open any letters without the person had a warrant from the Secre tary of State giving him full authority to d o so. Hehadead certainly with great attention the Bill of the N oble Earl, _and its provisions appeared to:him to be most unsatisfactory. y. The clause defining the law made no allusion whatever to the ques , tion of special or geeeral warrants, and certainly after the doubts which had been raised upon this point the Noble Earl ought to have stated, clearly and distinctly, whether it was necessary that a general or a special warrant should be issued. It had been admitted by the Lord Chief Justice that general warrants cou!d only be used except where a system of espio nage was carried on b y th e Govuninent, and he asked the House whether they were willing to establish such a system as this, in preference to at once d fining dist inctly and clearly whether a special or a general warrant should be used. Now, let them look to the second clause, but before direetine atten tion to that part he must protest against the doctrine laid down by the Noble Earl, that although the House might have to alter every word of the Bill, yet if they agreed with the prin ciple it enumerated they ought to support the second reading. Well, then, the second clause enacted that in case any credi ble information should be given to the Secretary of State, that the safety of the Sovereign or the Government was likely to be endangered, or the peace of the country likely to be dis turbed, it shall be lawful for the Secretary of State to issue his warrant for the detention or opening of letters, &c. Now, he was at a loss to understand the real meaning of this clause. Information was to be given to the Secretary of State? What information? Ought it not to be, "If information shall be given to the Secretary of State of the acts and proceedings of any person or persons likely to endanger the peace of the country. then, &c." The Earl of R ADNOR—We can alter that in Committee. Lord STANLEY—Of course they might, but he was dis cussing the Bill as it stood, and not a Bill which some other Noble Lord might subsequently bring in. —( Hear, hear.) He could not agree with the doctrine that the safety of the Go vernment, or peace or security of the realm were the only con siderations which should render it necessary or expedient that this power should be applied. The Noble Earl excluded al together the majority of the cases where the exercise of this power was necessary for the detection or punishment of crime. —( Hear, hear.) But what did the Noble Earl mean by the peace or security of the realm ? Did he mean the internal peace, or the danger of involving this country in foreign war ? Now he would not conceal his 'opinion upon this part of the question, and although a great deal had been said about the rights of hospitality in this country, he did not think, under existing circumstances, that a foreigner should be allowed to use our Post-office for disturbing the peace of foreign States, and thus involving thia country in a foreign war ? When the Noble Lord said that the information must be signed, he evinced an ignorance of the spirit of the original en actment, which disentitled his counsel to all weight or consi deration. Why, a more effectual mode could not be adopted for preventing the forwarding of all, except perhaps anony- MOW, communications. With respect to the provision of sending back the letter with a mark that it had been opened. a more absurd proposition could not be advanced. It would tend to give a clue to the operations of Government, frustrate the object as well as the spirit of the power previously conceded, and render nugatory the best efforts of the State. As to the provision for allowing the party whose letter had been opened to bring his action at law for damages, and requiring the Secre tary or Lord-Lieutenant to give up the information, or a cer tified copy of it, would be ineffectual to repress any abuse, and be fraught only with difficulties and absurdities. He would suppese a wrong letter opened by mistake, an invitation to dinner, a tailor's bill, or other communication equally unim portant.—( A laugh.) Well, the Postmaster was to notify that the letter had been opened by warrant of the Secretary, and • that no necessity existed for its further detention. The Secre tary was to give up the information, together with the name of the informant, and the convivial friend or the tailor allowed to bring his action for the violation of his secret.—(Laughter. ) He admitted that the power vested in the Secretary of State was obnoxious and open to unquestionable abuse, but he thought, also, there was a sufficient security in the character of the country, and in the honour of the individual Members of both parties in Parliament. Relying on this as surance, and wholly doubting the expediency of the Noble Earl's proposition, he should move that the reading of the Bill be postponed till that day six months. Lord DENMAN considered that the measure was of too vast importance, both as regarded the interests of the com munity and the character of that House, to have been dealt with in the flippant manner adopted by the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies. He would not pursue that course, nor adopt the see-saw opinions contained in the report of the Select Committee—a report evincing only the different views of each individual member. In 1657 the Post-office was first established, and in the lath of Charles If. the same in stitution was placed on a more satisfactory basis ; but it was not till the reign of Anne that a provision was made for the delivery of letters in the universal method subsequently adopted. He had heard with surprise the Noble Lord state that the detached suggestions which he had thrown out when the subject was first brought before Parliament were to be received as the opinions of the Chief Justice. A Noble Lord doubted whether every letter which was to be opened ought not to be described. Why, it was absurd that every letter could he pointed out ; it was likely that instead of the particular letter being at once discovered, others might be opened. Was he, therefore, to be held up as a patron of espionage, because he gave that view of the subject—because he said that letters might be opened under the Act of Parlia ment, the powers contained in which he condemned as incon- sistent with the liberty of the people, and which was intended to cover State delinquencies.—(Hear, hear.) He trusted, therefore, that the Noble Lord, who could not have heard the debates which had taken place in that House on the subject, would not attribute to him that he was an advocate of the sys tem of opening letters. It was not fair thus to deal with any one holding the public office he did, and who, of all men, de tested the practice—( Hear)—an odious and hateful practice which the feelings of all men must especially condemn. Before they came to a decision it would be well to consider what would be the course which juries would adopt with respect to the question of opening letters. They were apt to be car ried away by their feelings. The Secretary of State for the Home Department had stated in the House of Commons that he had no objection to their regulating the power which the Act gave him over letters passing through the Post-office. He ( Sir J. Graham) treated the power as a most odious one, and one which he would wish to get rid of. Then, why should not the p ractiee be in the hands of Parliament if it was to be exer cised at all ? In the time of Charles 11., no Act was in force giving the Government this power, but a declaration was issued by the King, giving his Government the power to open the letter or letters of an individual passing through the Post-office. When that Monarch was carousing with his courtiers, nothing could he more entertaining than to open the letters of the nobility and gentry. But he did not think it was fair to invest the power of opening letters in the present day in the hands of an officer of the Crown, over every other individual in the land. It was a calumny upon them that such a subject should have been so frequently brought forward. They had all felt ashamed of the disgraceful pro ceedings which were carried on under the system.—( Hear.) Mr. Mazzini only discovered by an accident that his letters had been opened. Had he not made this di'coverv, it was not un likely that it might have remained in secrecy for a number of years. One hundred years back the power might be rendered available for the purposes of obstructing an election, or of de-' feating by secret means the Government then in power. From the memoirs of Lord Malmsbury it appeared that the practice was then in use. In a letter from Mr. Canning to that nobleman, he expressed his surprise that his letters had been opened. Mr. Fox, writing at the commencement of the French war, said he should have his letters directed by an other hand, and sealed with another seal, as they would be opened at the Post-sffice. The same expressions were made use of by Mr. Burke and Horace Walpole. In the work to which he had alluded, it was stated, that the Minister of Catherine 11., of Russia, was in the habit. of writing letters with various signatures, which he knew would be opened at the Post-office, and which would have the effect of injuring his enemies and serving his friends. But he (Lord Denman) conceived that the power in this country was utterly useless, and derogatory to the high character of the nation.—(Hear, hear.) The Committees which had been appointed to con sider the subject, had not reported as to any benefits which were derived from the practice. Information so obtained was likely to be fallacious, and they were liable to fall into their own snares. So almost invariably was information obtained from spies, and the money paid to theta for their information was as invariably thrown away.—(Hear, hear.) He therefore called upon them to assent to the second reading of the Bill which his Noble Friend had introduced. God forbid that the scenes of 1842 should be ever again re peated. They had not, however, been met or put down by the system which had been resorted to of opening and detaining the letters of th sse who were supposed to be implieated in those disturbances. The unhappy men who were engaged in them were defeated by the firmness of the Government, the temperance of the police, and the good spirit of the coun try. The present Bill might be open to great objections, but it would prevent many of the abuses which had sprung up during the existence of the system. If it would only put an f end to the hateful practice of interfering in tbeffeeet It concerns w of foreign foreign Governments it would have a beneficial officers fo He did net see why they should lend themselves as policeother confine the system to our own country. e o on He had no doubtbut the Noble Lord opposite had been influenced by the best intentions in the course he individuals nraep (Hear, hear.) r rStates. opposi satcactoesi that account of whom the letters had been opened were shot, he but when he ihfetabred there had was adopted e o great harm even thougi:t their interference was extremely dangerous. On the a grounds, the Pope. the King of Naples, France, and the se Emperor of Russia, might claim their interference. They might even by this means be playing into the hands of their enemies, and betraying the interests of the country; for in Spain and Portugal it was not easy to knoss who was in pos session of power. He did not believe that Sir Robert Peel, even, would forget the cheers which accompanied the announce ment that the Alien Act was gone. He did not apprehend that it was necessary to enter into any defence of the motives which influenced the present Secretaries of State, but they ought not to forget that very unprincipled men were once Ministers of State in England, and such men mightaga s i nfi. again be in office. Even if they did not abuse their trust they had ff cient evidence during the summer months , i d so. From the report of an eminent individual, w no the he affair of the Derby stakes, that their underlings the Post-office, such persons werewould ne th r own in their way, and the ex the temptations which w ere ith respec tto thet proof against individuals i employed in perience which memorable as being the first 1844 was statement. The year opened for a foreign State. It was he himself had enabled him to confirm that year when letters were dangerous and extremely practice—a thing ut terly thepeople unknown to of England. He himself had not statute on the subject till after con known that there was any difficulty he found that Oliver Cromwell had been the con siderable i inator of it. It was to this brutal and hypocritical tyrant, a perfectly new originator existence night and day had been haunted by an appre hension of the evils which his crimes had provoked, that this un-English practice was to be traced. The Noble Lord then read extracts from Hume, desariptive 'of the character of Cromwell, and hoped that the Noble Duke, whose character had in every respect presented such a contrast, every one of whose victories was but a march to peace, would signalise his career still further by lending his influence to destroy and abo lish for ever so disgraceful and unconstitutional a power.— (Hear, hear.) He would call upon him to add to the mea sures which had lately been introduced for the conciliation of Ireland, a measure which would put an end to this abominable practice. Lord BROUGII AM did not concur in the severe attack which had been made on the character of Cromwell. He con tended that, with all his faults and failings, he had proposed and effected many salutary commercial changes. The Noble Lord had also been guilty of a misdemeanour, he had introduced the aerie ?nista jocis, and alluded to the correspondence of Gramont, in the times of Charles 11., the Merry Monarch. His Noble and Learned Friend the Lord Chief Justice had made three charges against the Secret Committee, which lately sat upon the Post-office. The first was, that the Committee in their report had not defined the state of the law on this subject. Now he found, by the first page of the re port. that the power had existed ever since the establishment of the Post-office, and had frequently been recognised, and this he thought was a sufficient charge. The second charge was, that the Committee had specified or suggested no remedy or refor mation whatever in the lax. All the Committee thought it was better to leave it for the Legislature to determine what alterations should be made in the law. The third charge was that the Committee did not stale what had been the utility of the power. Now, in answer to this charge, he could only state that, in one yart of the report the Committee. said that the exercise of the power had frequently led to detection and_tu . pishment . o ad W fa l l h en r fr e regard to crime, t N h 'oble Lord opposite, will had certainly made, a most . adm eBl l a itself, s w e e l fl,l b a to e ee thetre entirely recoveryeeeeerroefd p i L,r detects ;r a t t y b . he might add, a strictly legal speech against the Lord CAMPBELL little thought, a few years age , mabelase,earned., that he should have had occasion to defend his Noble ?tie the Chief GROUP NN. The Select Committee on this gtoUp assembled for the first Oe this morning in Room No. 5. The Committes. was appointed to ascertain the merits of the Epping Railway, promoted by the Lott, don and Blackwall Railway; and the Thames Junction and North Woolwich Junction, promoted by the Eastern Counties Company. The Committee decided upon taking first the THAT ES JUN ::TION AND NORTH WO OL- WiCH R fiILWAY. Mr. AUSTIN, Q.C., stated the ease for the promoters. The Eastern Counties Company, he said, had already obtained powers to make a branch of their railway from Stratford to the east side of Bow Creek on the River Thames, where it was proposed to construct a wharf and depot for goods. The project now brought forward was for an extension of that branch along the banks of the Thames to a point called the Horse-ferry opposite to the Woolwich Arsenal. The length of the line would be two miles and 65 chains, and as its course would be over level ground, it might be easily con. structed. It was calculated that about four millions of persons went annually by steam-boats from London-bridge to Woolwich and Gravesend, and the promoters of the present railway estimated that about a fourth of that number, or one million of persons came from the eastern part of the metropolis. It was, therefore, rea sonable to suppose that that number would come upon the pro posed branch ; but, to keep within bounds, the Company had only calculated upon one-half that number coining upoii their line. Now, the question which was most important for the Commitfet to consider was the question of fare. Well, then, they as sumed that about half a million persons would come upon the line, and the charge on the branch would be 21d. each person, or 6d. throughout from the Eastern Counties' station to the terminus at Woolwich. But then came the question, how are the people to get from Gravesend to Woolwich? Why, they would go from Woolwich to Gravesend by a steamer for 6d , and add this to the 6d. charged on the railway, the sum would be the same as that charged for conveying a person by steam.boat from London_bridge to Graves end. The company proposed to erect a wharf or pier at Woolwich, which would be made a free ferry, and entirely thrown open to the public. Those persons therefore who wished to cross to the op. posite side of the river, would have the advantage of being ferried over without any charge being made for ferry dues. The money the Company proposed to raise for constructing the branch would be 30,000/. He had already told them that the Company fully ex pected that 500,000 persons would annually pass over their branch, and these charged 21d. each, would yield an annual income of 4,1661. For working expenses the engineer would allow 4 per cent. on the gross income. and after this dednetinn had been mado, it left to. annual arstribution amongst the shareholders a net sum of 1,6661., or S per cont. on the gross outlay. The Committee would observe that he had taken no notice of the goods traffic, be. cause at present it was totally hypothetical ; and the Company, therefore, preferred relying upon the passengers, without taking the goods traffic into consideration. The Learned Counsel then produced evidence in support of his statement. As the Bill was an unopposed one, it was merely of a formal nature. Mr. Bidder, the engineer, stated that the line would only be made with a single line of rails, but sufficient land would be taken, so as to enable the Company to make a double line of way, in the event of its being afterwards found necessary. The room was then cleared, and the Committee having consulted for a few minutes, the parties interested were re.admitted, when some conversation arose between the Committee and the agent relative to the proposed ferry opposite Woolwich. The CHAIRMAN wished to know whether the river authorities had been consulted upon this point? The Committee, he said, were anxious that no powers should be given to the Company which would enable them to obstruct the navigation of the river. The agent replied that no powers of that nature could be given by the Bill. The Bill only authorised the Company to make a railway to the terminus opposite Woolwich. The CHAIRMAN remarked that the Learned Counsel had urged upon the Committee that the construction of the ferry was an in clucemeht for them to sanction the line. Now, if the Company did not intend to carry their passengers across the Thames for the 6d., their fares must be reduced. The agent replied that it would be for the Interest of the Coin patsy to carry their passengers to Woolwich, and this could be effected without making a further charge than 6d. The room was again cleared, and after the Committee had con sulted together for two or three minutes, strangers were re-admitted, when The CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee considered that the preamble to the Bill had been proved. The various clauses of the Bill were then agreed to, and the Committee adjourned. GROUP R. NORTH WESTERN RAILWAY, FROM DUBLIN TO CAVAN. At the assembling of the Committee this morning the CHAIRMAN decided that they should go into the project, namely the Great North-Western Railway, proposed to be constructed from Dublin to Cavan. Mr. MALLtV opened the ease on behalf of the projectors. After some observations having reference to the advantages of the proposed line, Mr. Miller was called and spoke to the expected traffic on the line. The counties benefited by it would be Meath, Fermanagh, Cavan, Donegal, Monaghan, Londonderry, Leitrim, and Tyrone. The populaiion of these districts, who were at present sent round, would avail themselves of this railway, and if sent by Drogheda their excess per annum, calculating at only 10 pet cent., would be 14,000/. This was only supposing them to go to Dublin once a year, herd rarnham spoke to the general feeling of the landed proprie toi•s, and the population generally in favour of this line, and against the Kells branch, GROUP S. The Committee re-assembled this morning. Present, Mr. S, \Vortley, Chairman; Mr. Ainsworth, Mr. Ewart, Mr. B. Hughes, and another lion. Member. LONDONDERRY AND CO.LERAINE RAILWAY. Mr. HILL, proceeded to open the case for the promoters of this railway. The Company proposed to reclaim :20,000 acres of land from Loch Foyle, and this would enable them to construct the railway cheaply, Considerable discussion arose as to the right of appearance before ;tit Committee of Mr. Dimsdale, who had a right to certain lands ,hat might be reclaimed from Loch Foyle. The Committee decided that he could appear. This discussion occupied nearly two bouts. Group COVENTRY, EEDAVORTR,A.Z.TXI NUNEATON nausiurAit. - (Continued from our Afternoo❑ Edition of yesterday), Mr. Brown, a ribbon and !lingo mattufattlirer, at Coventry, gave similar evidence. He mid there were five master manufae. turers in the trimming and fifty in the ribbon business l and bin sides these about four hundred minor trianttfattUrers in Coventry, who would be all greatly accommodated by the proposed railway. Mr. Thomas Williams, a ribbon manufacturer, at Coventry, and Bedworth, said he kept from 50 to 60 French looms constantly at work at home, and besides these, he sent into the country every day a basket of raw material, and receives) in return a basket of manufactured goods Ile went once a week to visit his works, but if there was a railway the probability was that he would go every day. In his opinion, a better line of railway could not be laid down than the present one, be. cause it accommodated the manufactures of the district and passed near to some very important collieries. Mr. Thomas Dalton, a silk dyer at Coventry and Bedworth, and other witnesses, gave corroborative testimony, and the Com, mittee afterwards adjourned, GROUP W. DRAYTON AND GOOLE RAILWAY, The evidence ssf Mr. Shepherd (continued from our After noon Edition of yesterday)— By Lord Svirmotin—Had said that railways had not added to the p osperity of Wakefield ; had, nevertheless, signed the petition, although it would be adding an additional line to Wakefield. His reason for doing so was the communication which it would open. with the south. Mr. T. Binney, corn-factor, Wakefield, examine!' by Mr • Knowts-s— Was well acquainted with the corn trade betwee ............................ •.• Goole and Wakefield and Goole and Leeds. Agreed with 'he 13 S t Fencing ....................................... witness in every particular. Did not consider that any adva 'alta/ le Earth •and Works .......... would be gained in point of time by the rail. Increased 'Y Bridges, Viaducts, &c ... would not be at all times an advantage to corn -factors.—(A laugj N..) . ..• Cross-examined by Mr. Ilomn—There was a great many ma .41 k‘ Total . ............ ......... kilns at present unoccupied in Wakefield. Did not know the nom. • I Contingencies ............ ber. Did not know what quautiiy of wheat was malted weekly at Pontefract. Did not hear th a t t h ere was any very great quantity Grand total ......... ••• • ............. ••• ••••• of corn pilfered while on the canal. It would be more profitable a -ermanent Ways, . .. to ship corn to Goole in a l arge vessel than i one, but he would take care le s t these large vessels should strike I,v , mts ...... •••• on the Whitton Sands. The r a t e of i nsurance on large vessels - d Compensation in this trade was less than o n sma ll ones. v bp By Mr. KNOWLES..—aIti small vessels could go up to Cast) nd were on that account preferable to the large ones. -rford Grand total was entered upon. Mr. Cubitt was the first ehginter Called. Examined by Mr. Sergeant KINGLAKE—I am an engineer, and have surveyed the London and York line, and have gone over the principal part of the county for that purpose. I have prepared plant and had them depicted, showing the line; the whole length is 348 miles, and 48 chains, including the various branches ; the length of the direct line was 185 miles, 78 chains; the length of the loup from Peter borough to Bantery was 86 miles, 60 chains ; the Bedfora branch was 7 miles, chains; the Stamford branch 4 miles, 75 chains; the Sheffield 20 miles; the Wakefield, 18 miles, 24 chains; there were also branches to Doncaster, Sheffield, Boston, Gainsborough, &c., making a total distance of 090 miles; the line was a very extensive one, but presented no peculiar difficulties; the mails line frotn London to York was a direct northern road; the line from King's-cross passed near Barnet„ Hitchin, Hun. tingdon, Peterborough, Grantham, Newark, Bautery, Doncaster, Selby, and to York: At Bigewell there was what was called an al. ernative line, but that had now ceased to exist, for the east line had been adopted. The line left the main line at Torrington, and joined it at Stamford ; the line for Sheffield went by Bautery; for Wakefield it passed tbrough Doncaster; there were 14 tunnels on the lint I the first was a mile from London, and was 632 yards long l the tleXt tottenhatn, 637 yards; the third at B arnet, 590 yards; the fourth at Enfield, 070 y ar d s; the fifth at the same Place s 250 yards; the sixth at Scott 1 mile 112 yards; the rieVerith et Welwyn, 499 yards; the eighth at Digswell, 1,047 ygrtit the , ninth a nd tenth were short ones at Sandy, 44 miles on the line) the eleventh at Great Vonton, 1,352 yards; the twelfth and thirteenth at Little Ponton, One Of boo end or.e of 305 yards ; and the fourteenth at Gormsby of 008 yards ; melting a total of 8,266 yards, or five thnhelling. There was no tunnelling abtethe two loop or at Bedford, Stamford, Of AMA& There wo uld at Sheffield, one of 1,245, and ft. , of 1, 0 " yards. The ruling ' • gradient was one in 200, and that was n:lt exceeded on any part o f ' 4 n 108 The curves the line, except at King's-cross, where it was 1. were few on the main line, and of a mild radius; there Was one at of the main line would be as follow ; Fencing the York station, and the others were few an d small. The expenses Earth and Works. Tunnels . .c449,1;2.9 735,840 603,365 Bridges, Culverts, and Viaducts 492,@93 1,882,808 187,992 Total Contingencies at ten per cent Permanent Ways and Ballasting, &c., which included Sleepers, Chairs, Levelings, 1,128,000 Stations Making a Total without Land Land and Compensation (which I learnt only from agents and others) ......••••••••• 596,986 Grand Total for the London and York line... £4,144,986 THE LOUP. ............ £17,92.0 176,690 137,930 Fencing Earth and Works ... .................. Bridges, Viaducts, &c..... ................................ Total ........................................ Contingencies ............................................. 332,942 33,257 Total for Levels, &.e 365,800 Permanent Ways. ............• ............. 616,000 Station . ....................... Total for Works. .......................... ...„. Land Compensation . ....................................... 031,800 117,680 Grand Total. ............... .. .................. 1,049,480 SHEFFIELD BRANCH. -_ ___ Fencing ........................................................ Earth and Works ......................... Tunneßridges, Viaducts, &c. ..... . ..................... ls ............................. .......... ............ ..... £6,720 149,102 193,500 106,702 Total. .............. •• Contingencies ...................• 456,0'24 45,576 Total for formation ••••""" Permanent Ways, &c ..................... Station ................................. 501,600 ••••••••.•..... 126,000 7,000 Total for works ................................ 634,600 Land, Compensation ""•• 59,8,9.5 Grand total ....................................... 694,425 WAKEFIELD BRANCH. 5,840 123,934 38,667 168,441 16,049 185,290 120,00 0 4,500 309,790 32,123 341,915 37,654 30,000 4,000 71,654 15,330 158,635 1,5'20 8,572 10,886 4