The Sun. — London, England, 1851-10-02 00:00:00

Wourtvb tt THE TRAGEDY at CAMBERWELL. (THIS DAY.) (Continued irons our Afternoon Elition.) The evidence of the policeman and others who en.. tered the premises immediately on hz...ring the alarm, and also of Dr. King, who denribed the appearances of the bodies, and stated the cause of death, and the pro bable way in which the wounds were inflicted, was next received by the Coroner, and the inquiry was adjourned to a future day for the purpose of obtaining additional evidence. FRANCE. The Presse has the following on the sub-marine telegraph. This is not the first time that M. de Girardin has done justice to the energy with which the President of the Republic gives encouragement and protection to useful projects : " Tho communication between London and Paris by the electric telegraph of M. Brett is entirely esta blished. Here again a chimera has become a rea lity, thanks to the faith of M. Brett, a faith which has traversed the ocean, and thanks to the perse vering intervention of Count d'Orsay, who obtained a year ago, from the President of the Republic, a promise that he would substitute his own good will in place of the bad one of the bureaux? Perhaps the same success might have been reserved for M. Petin if the same intervention bad in his case been used between the President of the Republic and the Minister of the In terior. It appears that the only function of the bureau cracy in France is to do nothing, and to prevent every thing. If such be its part, it certainly fulfils it in a most irreproachable manner. It will not be its fault if the sub-marine telegraph has taken its place among the list of accomplished progress, it will be that of the Pre sident of the Republic, of Count d'Orsay, and of M. Brett." We read in the Bulletin de Paris of Tuesday evening :7 " The first expedition of emigrants to California, with the funds derived from the lottery of the golden ingots, will take place to-morrow from Havre, if the weather permits. They are to leave Paris this evening by the railroad. They are 140 in number." It has been stated that M. Langlois, Director of the Lottery of the " Lingots d'Or," contracted with M. Savalette for the sale of the last 500,000 tickets. Yesterday M. Savalette brought an action against M. Langlois before the Tribunal of Commerce, to obtain the annulment of the contract, to get back 100,000 f. which he had paid as a guarantee, and to obtain 250,000 f. as damages. He based his application on the ground that the contract was that he was to have the last 500,000 tickets, and that M. Langlois, by fictitious sales, had made it appear that only 500,000 tickets remained, whereas the number was much greater, and he was selling them in competition with his. M. Savalette's advocate demanded that the case should be heard forthwith ; but the advocate of M. Langlois opposed this, and the Tribunal directed that it should come on in the regular order. M. Langlois, having published a letter in the Clement Reyre, the Government Commissioner of the lottery, the Minister of the Interior has ordered a prosecution of M. Langlois, who will thus be called upon to sub stantiate his statement, or to take the consequences of calumisious accusations. Scorn...3El CENTRAL RAlLWAY.—Traffic for the Week ending Sept. 28, 1851 : Passengers (10,926), parcels, horses, and carriages ... ... £1,226 210 Goods, cattle, &c. ... 696 410 Total .. 1,922 7 8 Corresponding week in last year... 1,701 11 Perth, Oat. 1, 1851. FATALAFFRAYAEA R ALV WICK. On bunday week the village of Ellingham, near Ale wick, in the county of Northumberland, was the scene of a serious affray with a number of drunken Irish reapers, which has unhappily resulted in the death of one of them. About four o'clock in the afternoon of that day several Irish reapers broke a number of panes of glass in the house of Mr. Laidlaw, a publican, where they had been drinking, after which they became riotous and per fectly unmanageable. On leaving the house they pro ceeded in a body down a lane in the village, and were followed by Mr. Laidlaw and two men, named Smith and Gibbinson, who demanded payment for the damage done to the windows. The Irishmen used very abusive language, and one of them, whose name was M'Cormick, swung his reaping hook in the air, and threatened to kill Mr. Laidlaw with it, and so violent was their conduct that he was glad to take refuge in a joiner's house. About a quarter of an hour afterwards, three of the Irishmen, one of whom was M'Cormick. met Smith and Gibbin son, and, after threatening them as they had done Laidlaw, struck at them with their hook!, and in flicted a slight wound on Gibbinson's hand. Smith, who at this time had a gun in his hand, threatened to fire if they did not stand hack, when M'Cormick replied that there was no fear, for the gun was not loaded. Smith and Gibbinson then retreated, but were pursued by the three Irishmen, who continued to strike them with their hooks, but Gibbinson contrived to ward off the blows with his stick. The two men were then driven to a place where they could not retire further on account of the bushes, upon which a desperate struggle took place, in the midst of which Smith's gun went off. Gibbinson and Smith then ran away, and the Irishmen again pursued them, and one of them threw his hook, which struck Smith on the shoulder. The two men then escaped from their pursuers. It was afterwards found that M'Cormick had been shot, and Smith, when he heard of it, expressed great sorrow, and said he had no intention to hurt him, but only wished to protect him self. M'Cormick's wound was found upon examination, to be of a serious character, and he died from the effects of it on the following Sunday. Smith has since been apprehended. A jury has been summoned by Mr. Russell, th 3 coroner for the distric', by whom a thorough investigation into all the circumstances will be made. RAILWAY EXCURSION TICKETS. At the Southwark County Court yesterday, before Mr. Clive, an action was brought by an individual named Raikes, against the South-Eastern Railway Company, to recover the sum of 17s. for an alleged breach of contract on the part of the company. Mr. Church appeared on behalf of the railway company. Plaintiff stated that a month ago he took three return tickets for Abbey Wocd and back, and paid a shillog each, expecting to return at eight o'clock. When that train came up to the Abbey Wood station, he W 33 told the train was quite full, and that he and his party must wait for another. Being compelled to be in London at a certain time, he took a conveyance to London for him self, sister, and niece, for which he paid 145.; which sum, with the 33. paid for the tickets, was the amo u nt sought to be r ecovcre d. Mr. Robertson, a gentleman who was on the platform at the time the eight o'clock train arrived, when there were 500 persons waiting to be conveyed to London, said he tried several trains afterwards, but could not be conveyed hence. There were no printed bills posted up stating that there would be other trains run until all the people were carried to London. Mr. Church, on behalf of the company, contended that the Abbey Wood, being an intermediate station, no ad ditional trains could by any possibility be added there, and that they were protected by their by-laws (which were hung up in every station) from taking passengers when the train was full. They (the company) had com pleted their contract with the excursionist 3 by sending additional trains until all the passengers were taken to London and other stations. He considered the contract of the company to be, to convey the passengers by ex cursion trains to their destination and back in one day, _ giving them the opportunity of returning by any train there might be room in, and before they cou!d say the company had broken their contract they must wait un til the last train. His Honour said the present case was one of vast im portance to the public, and as he had some doubts as to the liability of the company, he should take time to consider bis judgmeat.—Judgment deferred until Mon day next. - MONEY ORDERS.—UIceby, Lincolnshire, having been constituted a post town, the office there will be opened for the issue and payment of money orders, ou and after the 6th October next. THE GALE OF LAST WEEK.—SHIELDS, TUESDAY EYENING.—We have now an idea of the extent of mischief occasioned by the gale of last Thursday and F r id ay. Be tweeneo and 40 vessels are wrecked between Holy Island Lowestoft;snd lt are m ens? more would have been drowned it' there had not been a number of vessels on the coast, which assisted in rescuing the crews of the vessels that went down. Inde pendently of the vessels that are sunk and ashore, there has been an immense destruction of property caused by vessels lusing their canvass, anchors, meets, &e. It would be im possible to enumerate the casualties within reasonable length ; some o f the wrecks are of a very h eartrending cha rO acter. The Seven Brothers, of Shields, is lost near the wer, with eight of her crew, and the master's wife. The mater and three of the crew were saved, and have arrived at Shields. Two other vesaele, one at Holy other at Whitb Island, and the 3 7 , and all hands, are lost. From the quantity of wreck observed floating in the Norh Sea it aear that there are are other ve for. The vessels that are w la lo l st that are not accountsd ports on the coast. Two thereeked belong to the various in the Tyne to-day. All of hrQd'rtil oflight colliers arrived except the Freemans; it Is feareiCl4s have arrived safe home war steamer La fiche, which b ee tY are lost. The French night, left for Yarmouth yeeterda rohueglenden and Ilam- IR in the Tyne a fort " burgh. steamship, after encounteii-ng weather, arrived safely on Sunday. THE NEW-DoAD.—Yesterday, at the meet; the vestry of St. Pancras a resolution was -dirneegtel4 the con rectors to pave one half ct the carriedNei - St. l'ancru Church and King's-cross. with there granite e w i n e e r t transversely, that portion with which they are n a i t t- ,;;?s, proceeding being paved diagonally. The object is to e —n " rest by practical exeeri,nce the disputed poiet ot evheAaetr the granite block-paving, laid diagonally or tran 1 • averse y, most durable. GETTING INTO BED.—Mc. J. Dickson, a an of Clifto n , W esttnoreland, lies in a dangerous state fronithe effects of a strange mistake. Returning from Penrith market he went to sleep in a recess on Lowther -bridge; ,ion awaking, be grouped about, found the parapet, and imagining 'he was getting into bed, leaped over and fell into the river, crawl to the edge (the stream, where he was found next morning.— Cumberland Parquet. PILL, OCT. "—The Columbine ship, of London, from Newport, outward bound, has put back leaky, and pro ceeded to Bristol to discharge and dock. HEAL7'HOF LONDON DURING THE WEEK. (From the Registrar-General's Report.) The health of London is much better than it was in the two previous weeks, when the deaths of 1,026 and 1,097 persons were registered. The deaths of 958 persons were recorded in the week ending Saturday, September 27; 473 were males, and 485 were females; 190 were of the age of 60 and upwards, 460 were children under the age of 15, and 308 were men and women in the middle period of life. The decrease in the mortality is general over the five divisions of London. 141 persons died in the public institu tions ; 69 in workhouses, 8 in military and naval asylums, 58 in hospitals, 3 in lunatic asylums, 2 in military and naval hospitals, and 1 in prison. Small pox and typhus have declined, but they were the causes of 13 and 46 deaths. Of the small-pox victims 11 had not been vaccinated ; 2, it is stated, had been vaccinated. 39 children and 2 adults died of scarla tina, which is prevailing in many districts. 7 per sons died of erysipelas, 8 women of childbirth and , of metria, the following fever. Consumption was fatal to 123 persons ; 100 of the 308 deaths at the age between 15 and 60 were referred to this constant cause which bereaves so many parents of their chil dren, so many children of their parents. Violence, typhus, heart disease, bronchitis, and cancer, are the diseases next in the order of fatality at the same period of life. Diarrhoea is declining ; the deaths in the five last weeks were 174, 192, 101, 97, and 91 in numbe r . Th e d eaths from cholera in the same weeks were 28, 17, 17, 7, 9. Half of the cases were of more than three days' duration. It has been men tioned before that half the fatal cases of the epidemic cholera terminate in 24 hours after the first striking symptoms have appeared. Another singular differ ence is shown. The population of London on the north side of the Thames in 1851 was 1,745,096, on the south side of the Thames 616,545 ; numbers nearly in the proportion of 3to 1. Yet the number of deaths from cholera in the year 1849 on both sides of the river was nearly equal, 7,000 and 7,137. In the recent summer cholera the deaths have been dis tributed more equally, and in the proportion of the population. The following are the particulars of nine cases of cholera which were registered and certified by the medical attendants of the deceased during the week. The cause of death is stated in the words of the medical certificate : In Kensington, at Southend, on the 22d Septem ber, the daughter of a carpenter, aged 1 year, "cholera infantum (5 days), hydrocephaloid disease (5 days)." In St. George, , Hanover-s quare , B e l grave sub 41is trict, at Upper Belgrave-pl ace , on 20th September, the daughter of a builder, aged 15 years, " cholera (14 hours)." In Marylebone, Christchurch sub-district, at 10, United-buildings, Lisson-grove, on 21st September, the daughter of a labourer, aged 9 months, "cholera infantum (12 hours)." In Islington, at 20, Rufford's-buildings, on 24th September, the daughter of a baker, aged 11 months, " cholera infantum and dentition (6 weeks)." In Clerken well, St. James sub-district, at 8, Brunswick-street, on 16th September, a messenger, aged 71 years, " cholera morbus, and consecutive fever (8 days), preliminary diarrhoea (13 days.)" In Bethnal-green, at Trinity-ground, on 18th Sep tember, a master mariner, aged 75 years, " low fever consequent on English cholera." In St. Olive, Southwark, at 7, New. street, on 24th September, the wife of an oil cooper, aged 61 years, "choleraic diarrhce I (7 days)." In Lambeth, at 10, Thomas-street, Kennington, on 21st September, the son of a whip-mounter, aged 5 mouths, "cholera infantum (24 days)." In Greenwich, at Greenwich Hospital, on 22d Sep tember, a pensioner, aged 71 years, " alleged cholera (time uncertain fever (3 days).", The followieg are taken from the Registrars' reports : In Fulham, at 16, Star-lane, on 24th September, the daughter of a night watchman, aged 13 years, " childbirth labour (28 hours), died one hour after de livery, supposed in a fit (no medical attendant) ;" had previously applied for admission into the workhouse, and had been refused. In the same sub-district, at Nell Gwynne-cot tages, on 31st September, the daughter of a journey man smith, aged 12 month-, " small-pox (9 days)." Mr. Knight observes that " another child of the same family is Since dead from the same disease." In Somers-town, at 2, Charles-place, three chil dren of the same family died of scarlatina—viz., on Sept. 21, the daughter of a farrier, aged 11 years, " scarlatina (3 days) ;" on the same day, sister to the above, aged 2 years, " scarlatina (3 days) ;" and on 27th, a brother to the above, aged 16 years, " scarla tina (2 days)." The wife of a coach-painter gave birth to twin daughters, born at six months. Mr. Popham, the medical attendant, adds that " the children were united along the chest and neck ; that there wer e t wo heads, tw o arms , and four legs, and that they lived a quarter of an hour." In Shoreditch, St. Leonard sub-district, at Old street-road, on Sept. 19, a domestic servant, aged 30 years, " natural death, sudden in the street, accele rated by want of proper nourishment and care." In quest. In Bethnal-green, at 6, Satchwell-rents, on Sept. 21, a weaver, aged 29 years, " debility accelerated by an extraordinary susceptibility to the action of opium, administered in ordinary doses." Inquest. An out patient at the London Hospital. STATE OF THE WEATHER BUYING THE PAST WEEK. Su:TIDAL—The sky was for the most part covered with cloud throughout the day; cirrostratus. MownAy.--The sky was covered with cloud till 111. P.M., and clear during the remainder of the day ; cirrostratus and light clouds. TuEsDAY.—The sky was clear until noon ; one-half covered with cloud till 6h. P. M., and overcast afterwards; cirrostratus and haze. WEDNESDAY. —The sky, with slight exceptions, was covered with cloud during the morning and afternoon, and clear at night; stratus ar.d light clouds. TDURSDAy.—The sky was overcast throughout the day; cumulostratus and cirrostratus. Rain fell at intervals during the afternoon and evening. FRIDAY,—.The sky was generally one-half covered with cloud till near noon; overcast till 7h. P.M., and the amount of cloud was variable afterwards; cumuli, cumulostrati, and cirrostrati. SATURDAY. —The clouds were broken until noon, and during the remainder of the day the sky was overcast; curnulostrati and cirrostrati. Misty rain fell during the evening. ELELTRICITY.—No electricity was shown during the week. The mean reading of a thermometer placed on the main mast, and read each day at 9h. A.SI. was 55 . 3 ° ; and the mean reading at 9b. P.M. was 53 . 9'; the mean readings at the Royal Observatory for the same times were 55 . 8° and 02•5° respectively. The reading of the barometer decreased from 29 95 in. at the beginning of the week to ~ 9 . 9 0 in. on the 21:t at 9h. P.M.; it continued at about this value till after 3h. p.m. on the 22d ; then increased to 30'0 in. by 9h. P.m, on the 2id ; turned to decrease atter 912. A sr. on the 24th ; it was 29'50 in. at 9h. r or . on the 25th ; and increased to 29 . 67 in. by 9h. p.M, at the end of the week. MORTALITY in the METROPOLIS NI-MBEIt OF DEATHS FROM ALL CAUSES REGISTERED IN THE WEEndEKem EN ic,MI SATURDAY, Diseases SEPT. 27, 1551. Epidemic, and Cont Contagious ...*267 Diseases of Un certa i n S eat ... 43 Tubercular Di seases Diseases of th e B rain, Nerves, and Senses... ... 11 ... 173 0 Diseases of th e H eart and 8100 d -vessels ... 31 Diseases of the Lungs, and other Organs of Respiration ... ... Diseases of th e St omach, Liver, and other Organs 77 of ... Diseases of the Kid ne y s GO, &c. Childbirth, Diseases of the Uterus, &c. ... 9 Diseases of the Joints, Bons, and Muscles ... 9 Diseases of the Ski n , & c . ... 2 Malformations... ••• 5 Preoaature Birth ... 32 22 A go Atrophy ••• ••• ••• ••• ••2 Sudde Old 45 Violence, Privation, Gold, and Intemperan ce 5 8 Causes not sp ec i f i ed ' ~. 2 DEATIIS 711051 ALL CAUSES ... 958 ••• Populatlen Deaths in corre- Deaths flunl eratedi sponding week In the 1851, of 1850. Week. We4t Districts... 376,332 127 North Districts..riets.. 490,441 . • .. 212 ... 189 ... 133 Central Liistriots 392,986 ... East Districts ... 485 , 3 36 170 ... 171 ... 163 190 " ' S)uth District s .. 616,545 ... 301 --.. ... 283 Totals... ..... 2,361,640 ... 981 ... 938 Moles ... ••• &ma ... ••• ... 473 k:a ... ... ... ... 485 BIRTHS IN TIIE WEEK. Males ... ..• 732 • Total ...1,484 It In this number ar© included 41 by Scarlatina, 46 by Typhus Foyer, 91 by Diarrhoea, and 9 by Cholera. INFLUX OF SHIPPING.—A large number of vessels which have been detained in the Chops of the Channel and further out to sea by adverse winds arrived in the river in the course of Sunday and Monday last. The number of ships of all kinds which were reported at the Custom-house on Monday as having arrived from foreign parts was 106, in cluding several from the East and West Indies and the con tinent of America, and also Australia, as well as from every uf the principal States of Europe; and laden with every ' r : m eri "lniett of valuable merchandise. This influx of vessels road add*Con to the ordinary arrivals of steamers The arrivals M i ° ll7 o .v!' 4' "leis fr i um i the adjacent continental States, will were also of ave neBdaY sid e aria I " , h ee e t ot causing a great deal of bustle at the water have made the n t ic oryreral duck establishments of this vast pc), t. in the Thames from foreign parts numerous character; and the authorities Bare of blisjues, i n.ilseay3, arrangements for meeting the prase Dutepltret blip w nience and delay. u nPort trade, and to prevent inconve ington, for Dublin, weni weathe L.-Th e Oxford brig, of Work ou shore here yesterday during a gale at S.E., with for e d Tette she may be got off; lies bilged. It the ra " l a nd topmasts gone, and now r E no crew saved. THE ANGLO-.'AXON RACE. (From the Revue des Deux Mondes.) Of all the races which at this day occupy the scene of the world the most active, and that which possesses th& greatest weight and influence, is unquestionably the Anglo-Saxon race. Other nations may be more noisy and brilliant than England and the United States—they may exhibit more external glory—but not one, if looked at closely. can be considered so necessary as both these people. The Anglo Saxon race is ono of the most im portant spring: of the gnat political machine of the uni verse; without it it would perish, or be abandoned to the contempt of the future some of the most important facts of history, and some of those moral notions which are most essential to humanity. Without England and America Protestantism would exist no longer. Had Protestantism no other support than that of Germany, we would see it now expiring in delirium and in blas phemy amidst the laughter of other nations. Without the example afforded by England the French revolution would not only be anathematised, but abandoned as without reason and full of incoherent extravagances. Had it not been for England, America would on its discovery have fallen back into the barbarism in which u Spanish vessel found it. It is owing to England that the glorious discovery of Columbus has not proved useless, and counts for a great human fact, and for a service rendered to moral order, and not merely a discovery interesting to science and cosmology. It is England who at this day prevents nations from falling upon and devouring one another, and who maintains the equili brium of the Continent by the fear of having to measure strength with so redoubtable an adversary. Thus her very egotism is useful, for it protects our repose. It is her who crosses the projects of Oriental Europe, and says to the two Sclavi races—" Thus far shall ye go and no further." What a destiny! Her form and power are absolutely necessary to the moral order of the world. Let us lay aside all national prejudice and patriotic pride ; many nations of apparently more importance might disappear, and which seem to be more immedi ately interested in the maintenance of modern civiliza tion, but there is not one whose death would leave such terrible results as that of the solitary, the egotistical, and independent England. THE SUN, LONDON, THE COUNTY COURT JUDGE OF _ LIVERPOOL. _ LIVERPOOL, WEDNESDAY.—At the meeting of the borough magistrates yesterday, either seventeen or eighteen magistrates present, including Mr. Mansfield, the stipendiary, after considerable conversation, it was resolved that the Mayor be requested to commu nicate officially with the Home Secretary (Sir George Grey) and the Earl of Carlisle, putting them in possession of a digest of the recent proceedings, and asking their counsel in the present painful state of affairs. This morning, at the sitting of the County Court, Mr. John Whitty, son of the editor and proprietor of the Liverpool Journal, who was on Monday sentenced to fines amounting to 15/. and fourteen days' impri sonment in Lancaster Castle, was summoned for resisting the officers in the execution of their duty, on the occasion of the attempted arrest of Mr. Whitty, sen., on Saturday last. There were in attendance many of the most influ ential inhabitants of Liverpool ; and for some hours during the proceedings William Brown, Esq., M.P. for this division of the county, was accommodated with a seat on the bench, beside the judge. The interest excited was intense beyond description, from the knowledge of the fact that the whole of the men in Mr. Whitty's employment who were present on Sa turday when the bailiffs attempted to arrest that gen tleman upon Mr. Ramshay's verbal order, and the four detective policemen sent by the superintendent to preserve the peace on the occasion, had been served with summonses, and that the Commissioner of Police, with Mr. Clough, the superintendent, and several of the inspectors, were also in attendance. On the case being called on Mr. Dowling said he appeared to watch the proceedings, not to defend the police, in order that if anything wrong had been done by them the officers might he set right upon any future occasion. Sir George Stephen appeared on behalf of the de fendant, and submitted that as the summons charged him with resisting the officers in the execution of their duty, and as they were asked to show their authority, neither of them having a warrant or even a written appointment, no offence had in point of law been committed. The Judge decided that the Act gave him the power to order into custody any one who had insulted an officer of the court, either in going to, or return ing from, that court; and he doubted whether he was empowered to issue a warrant at all. The Act autho rised him to "order" the arrest, but said not one word about any warrant. The order he had given was as valid as though written with his own hand, and sealed with the seal of the court. The Learned Counsel contended to the contrary, and maintained that even the judges of the superior courts were not armed with such unconstitutional powers as those claimed by his Honour. As, how ever, his honour ruled otherwise, he must request that a note of his objection should be taken for ulterior proceedings. The Judge--I will take a note of it, Sir George ; I always take a note of everything. His Honour then ordered Roger Charnley, one of the bailiffs concerned in the attempted arrest of Mr. Whitty, to be sworn. His evidence was essentially the same in substance as that given on Monday, with this more explicit statement of the answer re turned by Mr. Whitty, sen., on the officers telling him they were ordered to bring him before the judge of the County Court :—" When we found Mr. Whitty be refused to go, but said that if we produced a sum mons or a warrant he would attend immediately, and would wait an hour while he went back to the court and told the judge so. We returned, and reported this answer, when the judge said, " Go and bring him here, you have my authority, and that is your warrant." Then followed the resist ance which has already been described in the former evidence ; the bailiffs were given in charge, taken to the station-house, and when the su perintendent esker' them for their warrant, they re plied they had neither summons nor warrant, and the superintendent thereupon told them they could not be assisted in taking Mr. Whitty without a warrant. The superintendent asked the bailiffs, after they were discharged, if they, in turn, had any charge to make against the defendant ; •to which b ot h o f them replied " No," addi ng t h at no blow had been struck on either side, and that, with the exception of young Mr. Whitty giving them into custody, and endeavouring to get them out of the premises, there was no assault committed. In cross-examination by Sir George Stephen, the witness said he was a bailiff, but he had not his ap pointment in his own custody; he believed Mr. Stone, the high bailiff, had. Witness did not tell Mr. Whitts, he was a bailiff, as he knew him to be an officer of that court. He did not know what he was to arrest Mr. Whitty for, nor did that gentleman inquire. There was no blow struck, nor did the defendant at tempt to strike any one. Had been a police-officer before he was a bailiff, but had never been to a private house to arrest a man who was the owner of the house without a magistrate's warrant. By the Judge—Not in a case of suspicion of fe lony or any disorderly person, did you never arrest any one under such circumstances without a war rant ?—The witness replied that he had never had occasion to follow a disorderly person into a house. He got their names and addresses, and summoned them before a magistrate. In a case of felony an officer might enter a house ; but witness always con sidered it was done at his own risk if the party should turn out to be innocent, and the grounds of suspicion were not very strong. By Sir George Stepinta--Were there any grounds to suspect Mr. Whitty or his son had been guilty of felony or disorderly ei,nduct? The Judge here interposed, and said that was irre• levant. The witness was not to ba asked about what was a point of law, but a matter of practice, and the question he had put to him was with a view to show that the judge of the County Court had done no more than the commonest policeman had done, in arresting people without a warrant. The next witness called was William Hartley, the other bailiff, whose evidence was mainly corroborative of that given by his companion. In reply to a ques tion from Sir G. Stephen, he said the defendant struck no blow, nor was witness pulled by him ; ha inter posid no difficulty. Sir George Stephen hoped his:Honour would take a note of that answer. The Judge again replied that he always took a note of everything. Judie (to the witness)—Were you not assaulted with a knife ? Witness—The knife was held up in a threatening manner by Mr. Whitty himself; but his son had nothing to do with it. Judge—Was the son present ? Witness—Yes, your Honour. By Sir George Stephen—l have no appointment in writing, nor ever had. I believe Mr. Stone has. I have a paper, which I generally carry with me. [This was produced, when it turned out to be unsigned, un sealed, and undated.) M r. Whitty, jun., had no knowledge of me as a bailiff. A person named Joyce, who described himself as a collector of accounts, and who accompanied the officers on the occasion of the attempted arrest of Mr. Whitty, was here put in the box, and, before giving his evidence, requested permission, " as a public cha racter, to correct some statements which he said had gone the round of the newspapers in reference to his former evidence. Sir George Stephen said the witness was on his oath on the former occasion, and he objected to his now being permitted to come in two days afterwards, and make any statement upon a case which wa s al ready decided. The Judge held that the better coursa for the witness would be to proceed against those persons who had libelled him. The evidence of this witness was in the main im material. He accompanied the officers to see that they discharged their duty, but not at the request of the ju.lge. He had been an egent of the Court of Requests in Beistol, and had latterly been occupied in getting in debts fur persons in Liverpool and Birken head. He had had a card printed, " Agent to the County Courts of Liverpool and Birkenhead," but that was a mistake of the printer's in putting " agent to," inetPaa of " agent it:,' &e. Did not know what was vo!untary evidence. He saw Hartley sign the book at the station.—[This was afterwards contra dicted by the superintendent, who produced the book.] The former judge of this court had, he believed, or dered the card he referred to to be impounded, and might have said witness must be looked well after. The superintendent of police, Mr. Cloucb, deposed to the nature of the charge at the station. The examiner of the court proved the orders of the judge to arrest Mr. Whitty, when Sir George Stephen, in a powerful speech, ad dressed the court for the defendant, contending that there had been no offence, and that his honour had completely mistaken his powers, and exceeded his juris diction. lie should regret uttering any sentiment derogatory to the character of the profession, but he maintained the right of the defendant's father to com ment fairly on the proceedings of that court. The defendant had not even been proved to have resisted the officers in what he (the Learned Counsel) would I designate an illegal and unconstitutional attack upon Mr. Whitty in his own house. The Judge, in a speech of two hours' duration, re ferred to all manner of subjects, into which it would be utterly impossible in our limits for us to enter. He was twice affected even to tears, and the effect on the audience was of the most painful description. Up to the periud of this report being dispatched no decision had been come to in the case. (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.) In concluding John Whitty, jun.'s, case, his Honour (Mr..liamshay) s a id b e should impose a fine of 21. for insulting Hartley, and 21. for the same offence against Charnley, or be imprisoned seven days in Lancaster Castle. He was also sentenced to pay 21. each to the same men for obstructing them in the execution of their duty. There was no imprison ment added to the latter penalty, because be looked upon it as a debt recoverable by action, and if not then paid, the d e f en d ant would be liable to 80 days' impri sonment. If an action were brought, the damages might, or might not, be laid at 501., and he did not know th a t h e s h ou l d, if he tried the cause, be justi fied in cutting the damages down. The charge against the p&ice officers wa3 with drawn. - • jarnmjaoz.i.ili,Safitio'r-sSaftßei!Er in the POLICE ENTELLIGENCE. employment. Charles sladmr.e6.:n:prgloayPage' a cab proprietor in James-street, serice of Mile•end Old-town, was charged with the wilful murder of a man named Plimpton, a stableman in the John Marshall said, I am also in the service of Mr. Page as a labourer, and knew the deceased, who was engagd in the stables. About one o'clock this after noon T was busy in one of the lofts, when I heard the prisoner and the deceased quarrelling at a stable door on the opposite side. The deceased had a mop in his hand, and the prisoner had the stable-fork produced in his. Some more words ensued between them, and I then saw the deceased strike the prisoner with the mop acros his shoulder; they were facing each other, and he struck him apparently as hard as he could. The prisoner upon that exclaimed, " I will stake the -- with this fork," but did not strike the deceased, and I went back into the loft, and did not see what afterwards took place. About a quarter of an hour af terwards, however, I had ocoasion to go down into the stable, and then saw the deceased lying upon the ground fsintiog and speechless. I lifted him up, but he could not utter a word, and I then saw that he was bleeding, but not profusely, from a wound in the breast, just beneath the nipple. The deceased had only his shirt on, and the prisoner, who was standing by his side assisting him, ran off for a small quantity of brandy, which ha poured down the deceased's throat, but I still did not hear him utter a word. The prisoner, I, and another man then carried the de ceased to some clean straw, upon which we laid him, and I went to get my dinner, leaving the prisoner and another man with him. On my return I still found the deceased lying on the straw, whether alive or dead then I do not know, but he was perfectly still. The other man was at that time looking to the deceased, while the prisoner was getting his horses ready in the same stable, and he remained there for a whole quarter of an hour. A cabman and another horsekeeper then came in, when by their advice we took the deceased to the London Hospital, and upon searching about I found the fork the prisoner had had in an adjoining stable. The prisoner here incautiously asked the witness— Did you see what the deceased had done to me before I struck him with the fork ? The witness replied in the negative, and the magis trate directed the question and answer to be at once taken down by Mr. Vine, the chief clerk. Henry Taylor, a constable of the K division, stated—About half-past two this afternoon I re ceived information of the deceased having been killed by the prisoner, and therefore lay in wait at the and of the Bethnal-green - road to effect his apprehension. A short time after the prisoner came down the road with a pair of horses, and I immediately stopped him and told him he must go to the station-house with me. I was about to tell him what I wanted him for, but before I could do so he said, " I know what you want me for ; is he dead et" I said I believed he was, from the inforinntionl had had ; a n d h e re pli e d, " He threw me down behind a ki c ki ng h orse , an d I therefore struck him with the fork, an d it went i nto his breast." He then said, "Take me straight to the the station as soon as you can, but don't take me into the yard again." I was, however, obliged to take him to the yard, and then transferred him to the station. Sergeant. Curtis, 13 K, said—l went to Mr. Page's yard at two o'clock to capture the prisoner, but did not find him there, though he was afterwards brought in by the last witness, and I overheard him repeat the observation as to the deceased having thrown him down behind a kicking horse, and his dealing him a thrust in return with the fork. The prisoner then added, " After I had struck him with the fork he ran me half-way round tho yard, so that I did not think there was much the matter with him." When the prisoner first began to ma sa k i e d, thi a s s st it ate vv m ,o e u n i t a l t b o e ld u h s i e n to be di againscteluiitmiG,l;3 w and cried he very much and seemed very sorry. The witness produced th e i nstrument w i th which the stab had been inflicted, an ordinary t we pronged stable fork, the tines of which exhibited no stains of blood, as it had evidently been since used ; 'out the witness Marshall positively identified it as the one he had seen in the possession of the prisoner at the time of his quarrel with the deceased, and the former did not deny it. The fi rs t w i tness a l so a dd e d, ia answer to a question, that though the deceased, on his way to the hospital, was p er f ect l y speec hl ess an d rapidly sinking, he did not appear to be dead, but that directly after he reached that institution it was pronounced by the surgeon who examined him that life was extinct. The prisoner, who whila at the bar seemed to be perfectly careless as to the evidence detailed against him, and afterwards went soundly to sleep on being locked up in the cell, offered no observations in reply to the charge, and, the witnesses having signed their depositions, he was remanded until that day week for the a►tendance of the surgeon to depose to the appear ances upon the post mortent examination. THE REGISTRATIONS. FINSBURY. TUE BRETHREN OF THE CHARTER-HOUSE. n e the lists of voters for the barri s t er appo i nte d t o revi s t in the Vice-Chan the bor oug h of F i ns b ury, aga i n cellor of E ng l an d' s 's Inn, for the pur pose of gi v i ng j udgment on a subject that has created considerable i n t erest , an d w hi c h, as had taken time to consider. Mr. Leyt on -: for the claimant, and Mr. Hine, for the Sepulchre, were again in attendance. On taking hi s seat the REVISING BARRISTER parish of St. k de livered th e f o l lowing judgment :—By the 27th section of the A ct passed to amend the representation of the people, the ri g h t of voting for city and borough Members i s d ef i ned. The section enacts that every male per son , of full age and capacity, occupying as owner or t enant any house, warehouse, counting house, S h op , or other building, of the clear annual value of ioi., withi n t h e li m it s o f any Par liamentary C i ty or borough, shall, if duly re that no s uc h gistered, en j oy the elective franchise. But this en ac t ment is accompaaied by a proviso person shall b e reg i stere d un l ess h e h ave occupied such premises for twel ve ca l en d ar mont h s next previous to the last day of July; nor unless where the premises are situated in a parish or town ship, rated for the relief of the poor, such person shall have been so rated in respect of such premises during such twelve calendar months, nor unless he shall have paid on or-before the 20th of July all poor -rates and assessed taxes which shall have become payable from him in respect of such premises previous to the Gth day of April then next preceding ; nor finally, unless he shall have resided for six calendar months previOus of J u l y w i thin such city or borough, o to r within itlit t s dY seven statute miles thereof. I suppose it assumed that Mr. Bani s t er i s a mmaayle be eerson judicially person, and he is of full age and competent capacity. It is admitted that he occupies a house or other building of more than the requisite annual value within the Lorough of Finsbury. And it is clear that he does not occupy it as servant or bailiff to any one, but as " owner or tenant" of the premises, that is to say, in the character prescribed by the statute. It will follow, then, that if I now put Mr. Banister's name on the register he will become enti tled to vote for the election of a Member. But I am in terdicted fromdoing so, unless I find that the requisites EVENING, OCTOBER 2, 1851. prescribed by the pnoviso of the 27th section are satis fied. Now, it appears in the first place that he has occupied the premises for twelve calendar months pre vious to the last day of July, as required by that pro viso. It. appears, in the second place, that the premises in respect of which he claims registration are not "situate in any parish or township rated for the relief of the poor." And consequently he neither has been, nor could have been, so rated in respect of such pre mises ; he is therefore within the exception of the proviso. It appears, in the third place, that no poor rates or assessed taxes had become payable from him in respect of such premises, the fact being, as I un derstand it, that this gentleman's chambers in the Charter -house are exempt from poor-rates, because they are extra-parochial; and from assessed taxes be cause they are either below the standard of taxation, or are saved from taxation, as " being provided for the reception and relief of poor persons ; ' so that in this respect no default is imputable to the claimant. In the fourth and last place, the statutory obligation of resid ence h as b een satisfied, Mr. Banister having for years had no other home but the premises in question. All the requirements therefore of the 27th section, both in the enactin g p a rt an d i n th e p rov i so , seemed to be fully met and answered by the case of the claimant, unless there be something in his status as one of the brothers of the Cearter-house that must exclude him from the franchise. It is said he lives on charity ; so likewise do the fellows of a college. They live on charity, if by charity is meant the bounty of their founders; but they are not on that account ex cluded from civil rights, or deemed incapable of exer cising the privileges of citizens. By the deed of foun dation, the eighty brothers of the Charter-house are to be gentlemen by descent, merchants ruined by the dis asters of commerce, or soldiers mutilated in the service of their country. From the moment of their appoint ment they are independent. They cannot be displaced or disturbed at the caprice of a governor. They seem to me to have a higher estate than is required for the purposes of this legislation. lam therefore of opinion that Mr. Banister's claim is well founded ; and I com ply with it accordingly. The name ofJobn George Fraine Banister was then inserted, and the Revising Barrister having signed the lists, the business of the Finsbury registration was brought to a close. The result of this judgment will be to admit to the franchise eighty " poor brethren" of this establish ment. THE LIBERATION OF KOSSUTH. (From the Times.) SOUTHAMPTON, WEDNESDAY, OCT. 1.-L ouis Kossuth, the ex-leader of the Hungarian insurrection, is daily expected to arrive at Southampton. He will he accompanied by several military and civil officers connected with the Hungarian revolution during the epoch of 1849, and who have shared his detention at Kutahis, in Turkey. From the conflicting accounts which have been re ceived relative to the movements of Kossuth, it is doubtful whether he will land at this port from the American steam-frigate Mississippi (now on her way from the Mediterranean to Southampton), or whether he will come via Paris and Havre. It is most gene rally thought that the former route will be adopted, as, the Mississippi having been specially placed at the disposal of Kossuth by the American Government, and there might be some objection to his passage through the French territory, there is reason to be lieve that Kossuth will reach Southampton about Monday or Tuesday next from Marseilles via Gibral tar, although his positive departure from Marseilles has not yet been announced. The following is the copy of a letter addressed to the Mayor of Southampton by Lieutenant-Colonel Jhaski, the private secretary of Kossuth. It was re ceived last night : " Marseilles, Sept. 27. "Sir,—His Excellency Governor Kossuth (my chief), with thankful sentiments acknowledging the lively inte rest and the high-minded sympathy which the generous city of Southampton, and you, Sir, particularly, were on so many occasions honouring, with the Hungarian cause, the fate .of its exiled leader, end of all Hungarian exiles who chanced to land on your hospitable shore., intrusted me with the agreeable duty to present to you, Sir, his hearty compliments, and respectfully to inform you that, embarked with the generous consent of his Majesty the Sultan, without any previous condition whatever, but rather with illimited liberty, on board the United States steam-frigate Mississippi, sent over by the Congress and Government of the United States precisely for his and associates' liberation from Kutahia, stopped at Mar seilles with the purpose to pass through France directly to England, and to land from Havre at Southampton, having the warm desire to thank personally for the pro tection which the public opinion of the high-minded people of England pleased to throw in the balance of his destiny. " Arrived here yesterday, his Excellency immediately applied to M, le Prefet of this department to grant him and family free passage through France. M. le Prefet judged it convenient to report to Paris by telegraph to the Ministry, but the action of the telegraph being hin• dered by the misty weather, answer has not yet arrived. " So, not being able to give you exact information about the issue, or in case of granted passage about the time of his Excellency's arrival at Southampton, still I feel gratified to be the organ of communication of his said design, and of his firm intention to go, in every case, for some few days to England; which should he be not permitted to execute directly from Marseilles, he has decided to proceed immediately to Gibraltar, and hence to visit England and ask for an asylum to his children there, while he proceeds to the United States, to thank personally for the most generous aid and assistance which the people, Congress, and Government of the United States honoured him with. " His Excellency left Kutahia with the confident hope that the sacred cause which it is his glory to represent cannot fail to have a future yet, being honoured as it is by the powerful sympathy of the English race—:hat mighty, great, and glorious guardian of justice, right, and freedom in both hemispheres. " I have the honour to sign myself to be, with the most distinguished consideration, Sir, your humble and obsequious servant, " JHASKI, Lieutenant-Colonel. " To Mr. Andrews, Esquire, Mayor to the City of Southampton." The statements made in the above relative to the route of Kossuth do not accord with the intelligence which appears in the London papers this morning, to the effect that the Mississippi had touched at Mar seilles on the 26th ult. merely for coals and provisions, and that she left the same day, none of the refugees having landed. It is anticipated that, supposing Kossuth to be waiting at Marseilles for the reply of the French Government to his request for a free transit through France, his disembarcation was effected privately, and fur political reasons. It may also be expected that the desired facilities will be courteously refused by the French Cabinet, as the arrival of Kossuth in Paris would perhaps be seized upon by the Liberal and Democratic party as a pretext for getting up a demonstration. _ _ _ Up to the present time Mr. J. H. C ros kh y, t h e United Stated Consul at this port, has not received any official intelligence leading him to look for the arrival of the Mississippi, but it is understood that Kossuth is desirous of visiting England for a few days previous to proceeding to America. The people of Southampton intend to give the ex- Governor of Hungary and his co-sufferera in the Magyar cause a warm and hearty reception. The Mayor (Mr. Andrews) is e xer ti ng hi mself to get up a demonstration to greet Kossuth on his arrival in a most enthusiastic manner. The people seem disposed to second the efforts of the Mayor, but, as public banquets and receptions on anything like a grand scale are very expensive, we are not aware who will provide the means ; and it is hinted to us that a great indisposition at present exists among the inhabitants to subscribe for such a purpose. The liberality of the Mayor is, however, almost unbounded, and it is very likely that Kossuth will be the guest of his worship for a fe w d ays , an d w ill b e en t er t a i ne d with princely hospitality. The subjoined address to Kossuth is being extensively signed throughout the town, end will be presented to him on his arrival. The Hun garian Committ ee i n L on d on i s a l so d e p u ted to visit Southampton to welcome the Hungarian leader ; and no doubt his la n di ng on th e s h ores o f this country will be attended with considerable éclat. It is understood that Count Batthyauy does not accompany Kossuth, but has proceeded to Paris to take up his residence there. " ADDRESS TO LOUIS KOSSUTII, LATE GOVERNOR OF nobleness of your own soul, the most earnest and cor dial wishes of all the friends of freedom may be realized by the extemied prolongation of your life among them, in the full enjoyment of health, peace, and every other source of human Inippiness." The following is . the text of the diplomatic corre sprmdenc between the Austrian Internuncio at Con stantinople and the Turkish Ministry on the subject of Kos3uth's liberation : " The undersigned representetive of the Emperor of Austria at the Porte has already coromunicaied to you the commissions transmitted through him from the Im perial Cabinet to the Grand Vizier and Minister of Fo reign Affairs, relative to the continuation of the deten tion of Kossuth and his most dangerous companions in Kutahia. The Minister may have seen from the contents of the communications exchanged on this subject what great importance the Imperial Court attaches to this matter, and that the Imperial Cabinet considers itself en titled to suppose that the detention can only cease after the joint concurrence of both Powers shall have been ob tained. Both his Excellency Redschid Pasha and his Ex cellency Ali Pasha have assured the undersigned that the contents of his communication would meet with due at tention from the Ministerial Council, and that the result would be made known to him as soon as it had received the sanction of the Sultan. How great, therefore, must have been his surprise when he learnt from certain sources that the Minister had given the chief of a certain ens bassy the assurance that Kossuth and his dangerous companions would be set free in the middle of Sep tember, and that, in consequence of this assurance, the abovementioned diplomatists had made certain arrange ments in view of the journey the Hungarian prisoners were to make. These details have not been denied by his Excellency Ali Pasha, and the undersigned finds himself under the necessity of renewing more vigorously his exertions in order to turn the Porte from a deter mination, which it has doubtless taken without mature deliberation, and which it will, the undersigned hopes, abandon when it considers al the consequences that may ensue from the liberation contemplated. Before pro ceeding further, ho Never, it will be necessary to call the attention of the Turkish Ministers to certain facts which should be noticed in order to a clear view of the matter in hand. The undersigned does not intend to detail the circumstances which led and caused the flight of the chief of the Hungarian rebellion, although such details would give him an opportunity of offering nume rous points in reference to the demands of the Austrian Government, which the Porte ought instantly to grant. At the same time, he considers it superfluous to refer to the meaning and words of the treaties i❑ force between the two powers, in virtue of which rebels and criminals who aro Austrian subjects, and fly to Turkey, should not be harboured. In accordance with the spe cial wish of the Sultan, the Imperial Court abandoned its right to demand the extradition of the fugitives, although the meaning of treaties clearly gave him the necessary power in the case. But it is for this that the Austrian Cabinet must, with so much the more instance, dwell on the following clauses of the treaty of Belgrade, which (clause 18) says 2 -4 When such rebels fly into the Turkish States with the intention 0t concealing them selves there, the Porte is to seek them out and cause them to be punished; and also whe❑ the said rebels and criminals shall show themselves repentant, and promise better behaviour, the Porte is not to believe them, but to detain them and confine them in a place distant from the frontier.' " Nothing can be clearer or more distinct than this clause. Yet not only did the Imperial Court abandon its rights, confirmed in these declarations of the treaty, but showed itself inclined to come to an arrangement with the i)ivan relative to the confinement (internirung) of the fugitives. What did the Porte to further so friendly a disposition? She pertinaciously fixed a limit of a twelvemonth, and forced the Imperial Court to con sider as of non-effect the negotiations relative to a timitaqon of the period of inspriionnicrit, and to take its stand upon the terms of existing treaties, namely, those which had previously been concluded by the two States under the hand of his Majesty the Sultan and his Ma jesty the Emperor, on the 26th Schewal, 1265 (Sept. 17, 1849), and those which were made between the i'vlinisti r of Foreign Affairs and the Turkish Envoys accredited for that putpoLe in Vienna, with the proviso, that in case of need the elsuses of these treaties would be en forced in all rigour. This 'flit proviso is made known more especially in a di , patch of Prince Schwarzsnburg, dated (larch 19. 1850, which Count Stormer, then Internoneio, commu nicated to his Excellency Ali Pasha. What, indeed, does the note of the Porte itsel% dated the 23d of Gc-masil Evvel (the 6th of April, 185 f), say, which serves as appendix to the above im , ntioned Acts? Why, that the Porte, in order to strengthen the cause of order in Hungary, expresses its readiness to come to a friendly understanding with the Imperial Court before it sets the captives in question free, and that the Imperial Govern ment should therefore express its views in the matter, and communicate its determination. imperial .. Barleymeal, per ditto Peasemeal Flour Vot barley " It is clear, then, that according to the declarations of the Sultan and of his Ministers, the meaning of these words cannot be understood by the Imperial Cabinet, or any impartial parties, in any other way than that the confinement (internirung) should cease only on the joint determination of the two Powers. The undersigned has on several occasions had the honour to hear the Turkish Ministers on this subject declare that in their soul they had not doubts on this point; and his Highness Redachid Pacha assured him at the commencement of last summer that the Porte did not intend to set the prisoners of Ku tahia free without the consent of the Imperial Cabinet. " And now what happens? The Austrian Cabinet de clares that order in Hungary has not yet reached that state when it becomes possible to let Kossuth loose with out danger to the peace of the kingdom. The Imperial Court considers itself alone competent to judge of the internal state of its provinces; but it assures that, as soon as the moment arrives e it will hasten to inform the Porte, and it will then make no opposition to the cessation of the imprisonment of the Hungarians. "In the meantime the Sublime Porte, under all man ner of pretexts, and taking up its position on an inter pretation of the agreement which has not been assented to by the Imperial Cabinet, resolves no longer to take account of engagements which it entered into in the most solemn manner, nor held the righteous and well grounded objections made to its proposed course. It persists in its intention to set at liberty Kossuth and his dangerous companions at the very moment when his Imperial Majesty has sought to give to his sovereign neighbour new proofs of his wish to maintain a good understanding with him, in the nomination of Count Rechberg to the post of Chargé d'Affaires in Constan tinople. Oa all these grounds, and in consideration that the Sublime Porte has proceeded so far as to commence the execution of its design of liberating Kossuth and his companions at Kutahia, the undersigned feels compelled to protest against the liberation of Kossuth and the other Menus of the afore -mentioned city. The under signed repeats his declaration which he took occasion to make on the 17th of February of this year, namely, that the departure of any of the detained persons from Ku tahia without the previously obtained acquiescence of the Imperial Austrian Government will be regarded as a breach of the agreement concluded between Austria and Turkey upon the subject of their detention, and as an event which trint, draw after it the destruction of that good understanding which has hitherto existed Leta een the two Governments. " It is impossible that the Sublime Porte can shut its eyes to the fact that by such a misapprehension of its duties (as well as of the dictates of a wise pokey), su c h fligrant repudiation of its own assurances, such com plete obliviousness of all the proofs of real friendship evinced by the Imperial Government, which fill the annals of its history, the most painful necessities will he imposed upon this Court, arising out of its doubts of the sincerity of the intentions of the Sublime Porte, while finally ranch a proceeding as that now complained of will completely justify Austria, in presence of impending questions, to consider nothing but her own interest in her relations with the Turkish empire. " The undersigned has the honour, &c., " EDWARD KLEZL, Bujukdere, July 29, 1851," The following is the reply of the Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs : " His Majesty the Sultan has taken cognizance of th© varioue verbal c ommunications, and of the official note of Joy 2l of the present y ear , i n w hi c h y our Excel lency the Charts d'Affaires has notified to me that the resolve of the Sublime Porte to set at liberty the Magyar fugitives now at Kutahia at the beginning of September has not the acquiescence of his Imperial Majesty. The friendship which bee existed for centuries between the Sablime Porte and the Austrian Court, to maintain and confirm which i s , even upon tho ground of territorial proximity, so much the interest of both States —this friendship, upon which the Sublime Porte has always set the high est value, it has always sought to preserve by avertin g every occurrence that could cause its inter ruption. I era not able to express with sufficient force how greatly the Government of the Suban regrets the difference of opinion which has lately divided the two Cabinets on the s-abjeet discussed in your last note. The Subli me P or t e gladly entert a i ns the hope that the Cabinet of Vienna will finally acknow ledge the frankness and honesty which h ave uni formly characterised its proceedings in thi s matter, and will put away all those prejudicial suspicions which, from the terms of the communication of July 29, it would seem the Imperial . Cabinet was then incli ne d to enter tain. For, in fact, it is not until all engagements taken by the Sultan's Cabinet have been pu nctua ll y f u l f i lled, and after taking roost anxious measures for carrying out the safe guardianship of the fugitives, that the Sublime Porto has determined to remove them from its terri tories, considering their detention no longer necessary. We find it hard to believe that any one can with fairness characterise this resolution as a breach of the engagJ - merits entered into with respect to the refugees. Your Excv ii ene y has taken occasion, in the note of July the 29th, to allude to ancient treaties, and also to the written assurance given by the Sultan to hie Majesty the Em peror on this subject. But it is superfluous at this time of day to refer back to those old treaties, since the most e xplicit declarations have been long ego made to the I m perial Court as to the limits within which those engagements were and were not to find their application. As to the letter of the Sultan to the Emperor, it contains no more than tho assurance that the refugees whoa; go so guarded that itshould not be in their power to disturb the tranquillity of his Majesty's dominions. The note addressed by the Tnrkieh Cabinet to the Austrian luternuncio, April 6, 1850, to which your Exuelle''''Y finally appeals, rind which contains in the most explicit terms the promises of the Sublime Porte, sqtr,:s 'bat, 'after the reetoraion of order . in Hungary, the Porte, before setting the Magyar refugees at liberty, will iefoern the Auetrian Government of its 'nrJ endeavour to procure its sanction for tile net.' Now, trarq , inlayha i long been re-established in Hungary; arid, it there are some few still occupied with projects of disorder,yet ars they nut, by the express ad mission of the Internuncio, in a situation to excite en insurrection. Besides one might wait in vain for the time when no persons in Hungary could `reasonably be 0 COAL MARK E' Bate's West Hartley 14s fid Chester Main lss Od Eiasting's Hartley 15s Od El o 15s 6d Hartlepool W. Hartley 14s 6c North Percy Hartley.. 14s €d New Tanfield Itavensworth'sW. Hart I4s 9d 'antield Moor Tanfield Moor Butes l3s 6d Townley West Hartley Wylam liVall's End, &c. - -- Acorn Close Cosfortli ..... Marton Hebburn . Northumberland Riddell Walker Gibson Peareth Gas .. ...... Edon Main ....• l6s 3d Belmont l6s 3d Ships at market, Lambton .... 108. Sold, 99. suspected of evil projects, since in all time and countries there exist such. But, although the Sublime Porte has for a km.; time thought that it might liberate the refu gees without injury to any, yet it has not refused, upon representations mode to it, to pretract some% hat the period of their detention, a proof of the neighbourly feeling it ch.?rished tocvsrds Austria. This alone did the Sublime Porto unlertake in its engage ments with Austria—to watch over the refugees in its own states, so long es any rekindling of insurrection WAS to he feared from them. But if, on the one hand, a friendly feeling lc d it to undertake and fulfil that onerous task, the Sublime Pnrie experes, on the other hand, that, in consideration of such self-abnegation, the Aus trian Government will not claim indefinitely to prolong an unpleasant state (it' things, from which nothing but embarrassments and misunderstandings are to be appre hended. It thus, at length, the Sublime Porte has felt itself compelled to liberate the &Venus at the beginning of Sq.iternber, this has not been without the complete conviction that, looking at the subjected state of Hun gary, no necessity for their further detention exists, and that the Porte has fulfilled irs utmost duty, of which conviction the Imperial Court was informed without de• lay, and its acquiescence in the same solicited. Con scious, therefore, that in no particular has it been wanting in its engagements, the Government of his Majesty the Sultan does not surrender the hope that after a candid reconsideration of tha facts, and a just appreciation of what must obviously be the desire of the Sublime Porte, to put an end to a situation fraught with difficulties and dangers, the Imperial Cabinet will attain to the convic tion that the Sultan cannot depart from the resolution he has taken. " I have the honour, &e., " ALI PASHA. " Coneantinople, Aug. 16." To this note the Austrian Internuncio forwarded the following reply : With the deepest regret has the undersigned, Chargé d'Affaires ot his Majesty the Emperor of Austria at the High Ottoman Porte, learned by the note of his Majesty the Sultan's Minister of Foreign Affairs, that the Go vernment of the Porte persists in its resolution to set at liberty, on the Ist of St , ptember, Kossuth and the other refugees at Kutahia, without considering the validity of the weighty reasons urge d b y t h e Government ot 13!3 Imperial Majesty in favour of a prolongation of their confinement. The undersigned must repeat the pretee tations contained in his note of the 29th of July, ad dressed to Ali Pasha, and at the same time hold the Sublime Porte answerable to the Austrian Government for all the consequences of the liberation of the said re fugees without the concurrence of the Imperial Court. "I have the honour, &c., "Bujukdere, August is." "EDWARD KLEZL. THE COUNTRY MARKETS. LEEDS, SEPT. 30.—There has been a fair arrival of vessels from the coast into Goole, and the show of wheat this morning was consequently gcod. There was more desire to purchase, and generally more tone in the trade , and Friday's prices were readily obtained. Barley fully as dear. Oats and beans without alteration in value. Other articles as before. NEWCASTLE CORN MARKET, SEPT. 30.—We have 0 0 change to report in our market to-day, and prices re. mained the same as on Saturday, with it anything rather more inquiry for old wheat. Grinding barley the turn cheaper. Flour slow of sale. Oats and other article• the same as before. NEWCASTLE CATTLE MARKET, SEPT. 30.—The supPli of beasts large, th ere b e i ng 200 head more than 1.6 f market day, most of which were of inferior qualit9' trade dull at drooping rates, with an exceedingly hetiq finish. The number of sheep and lambs 100 less the i/ last week. Mutton trade firm, and nearly a ll sold Lambs in Rood r, (pest at firmer prices, a nd alt cleared of,'. Arri, als-13,-asts, 823 ; sheep and lambs, 6,100, Beef, 43 Od to fis 63 per stone; mutton, 4d to 54ci; 41d to si-1 per lb. EDINBURGH MEAL MARKET, SEPT. 30.—There were i s the meal market to-day 9 sacks oatmeal, each weighing 2801 1 * imperial, which so ld t h us : - 3 at 11 103 (Id, and 6at 1.1 , average price of the whole 1/ Os 43 0-12ths. 1 sack floe' which sold at 275. 5 sacks pot-barley, whereof 4 sold thus :"" 1 at 265, 1 at 25s 03, and 2 at 225. EDINBURGH HAY AND STRAW MARKET, SEPT.. 30 '1 Oat straw, from is Od to 9s Od per kemple of 16 stones tr°, l ‘ , wheat ditto, is Cd t o 8 s Od ; b arley ditto, Os ()d to 71 Hay, from Bel to 10d per stone. DA LKEITH MEAL MARKET, SEPT. 29.—There oer i e s 55 bags of oatm ea l, 3 o f b ar l eymea l , and of pot-barley at w a day's market ; sales rea y. Oatmeal up on the top and sec° P . qualities 6d pe r b ag ; b ar l eymeal Is per bag down on the toil , pot-barley the same as last week. Oatmeal, per sack, of 280 lbs. First Second 29s 6d 283 3d 193 Od —s Od —s 0 —s Od —s Od —s Od 22s Od —s Od :T.—YESTZRDAY. Braddyll etton Pensher Russell's Hatton , Stewart's Whitwell fieepier ----- Cassop Hartlepool Heugh Hall ......... Third. 27s od _s od _ s od —' pd —0 u. ~ 16 5 . 6 1 166 • 165 Ad— ,. 16s 165 v ,va 165 9 i a 15 9 lse „ 1 '. 163 4 34 , 1 169 16s 3 d i , od ~ • 16 5 6 j . 15 5 a j 149 7,4 15 g ▪ 15 65 6,1 -r 15 0 ▪ 159 9j 160 6 0 4 • 19 5 j 149 6 6 4 195 South Hartlepool South Erelloe West Kelloe ...... Whitworth lAdelaide Tees Richardson's Tees Seymour Tees South Durham !Teat Birchg. Graigola Bartley Llangenniech RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. BRISTOL, oc,r. 1. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The share market has been firm to' day, and business brisk. The transactions reported were: Great Western (Original Sto c k), 83—Great N or th er n, 167 `' LIVERPOOL, Ocr. 1. •et; STOCK EXCHANGE.—The share market co n ti nue s V i s o very little business has been done to• day, and price° rather lower. The transactions were as foll o w 0 , shire and Yorkshire, , R London and North-W es ter a New Quarters, 2 % Midland, 47—S ou th-E a stern an Dover, 19%—York and North Midland, 19 1 4. MANCHESTER, OCT. 1. BTOCK EXCHANGE.—T here has been but a trifling busin e _, done in our sha r e mar k e t t o -d ay , an d pr i ces are ra ther easie, l- 6 The transactions were as follow : —Ea s tern Counties, 6 5" --Edinburgh and Glasgow, •16'h—Lancashire and Yorkshire' 554, 1 —London and North-Western, Now Quarters, 3 1-1 6 P: Ditto, Manchester and Birmingham Quarters (C), 1 11-1 6 r Shrewsbury and Chester, Preference, guaranteed 8 per cen e ti: 15 1 ,4—South-Eastern and Dove r , 19 9-16—D u blin and B fast Junction, 22th dis. BIRMINGHAM, OCT. 1. STOCK EXCHANGE. —Prices were, if anything, firmer to-dal than yesterday, but no business of any importance was tral 3 9' acted on 'Change. Sales to some extent were effected private. Shrewsbury and Birmingham Stock continues request, and is extremely scarce. SEABORNE MAILS. „ma [N signifies that the mails are sent fron t th e G enera l Faw l ey— by the night--and M by the morning---4ispateh.] =en made up in From what ibe; PLACES. General Poet-oice port dis- due. London. patched. America (by Brit. pkt.)N Oct. 3 Liverpool .. Oct. 9 America (by U.S. pkt.) N Oct. 14 .. • . !Liverpool . Oct. 8 America (by U.S. pkt.) 51 Oct. 8 Southampt. *I Oct. 2 Africa (West coast).. N 14th of the month Plymouth Oct. 3 Alexandria* ........ N 19th & 30th of mo . D over .. S e pt. 2° 2 Belgium .. •• N Daily .. hover .. Daily Brazil . rd 9th of the month Southampt. Oct, 16 Buenos Ayres 9th of the month Southampt. Oct. 16 Callfornia(viaChagres) M Id & 17th of month Southampt. Oct. 5 Cape of Good Hope N 14th of month Plymouth.. Oct. 3 Constantinople* .. ••• Is' 7th 17th 27th of rno Dover .. Sept. 3 2 Central America .. 2d & 17th of mon. Southampt. Oct. S t Channel Lies .. N Mon., Wed., & Fri. Southampt. Tu. Th. , * Chili M 17th of the month Southampt. Oct. 5 France M& N Twice daily .. .. Dover • . Twiceda lw Greece* • .. • • N 7th 17th 27th of mo Dover .. Sept. 3 11 . Harnburg,h N Tuesday & Friday London .. Tues. Sat ' Holland Wednes. & Satan London .. MeN• Ti ' t Honduras .„ . N 17th of the month Southampt. Oct. 20 Ireland .. .. M& N Twice daily .. Holyhead .. Twiceefa, India (via Southamp.) AI 20th of the month !Southampt. Oct. 21 India (via Marseilles) N th& 24th ofmonth•Dover .. Arrived Mediterranean (via Southampton) .. M 20th of the month Sonthampt. Oct. 23 Mediterranean (via Marseilles) .. N Bth& 24th of month Dover .. Arrived Mexico M 2d of the month.. Southampt. (Oct. 5 Madeira • • • • M 9th of the month Southampt. 'Oct.) 6 Malta* f7t h,17 th,l9th,27th 3 Dover Sept. 28 & 30th of month Naples* .. •. N,sth 15t1125tii of mo ! Dover 'Oct. 2 P apa l st a t es . .. istlllsth 25th o f mo lDover Oct. 2 Peninsular.. •• Tif7th 17th 27th of mo!Southampt. !Sept. 2 6 Peru •• 17th of the mouth Southampt. Oct. 5 N sth th 25th cfciolio/cr .. Oct. 2 West Indies .. M'l7th of the month I Southampt. 'Oct. 5 West Indies (except Havanna & Nassau) M 2d of the month .. (Southampt. ! Oct. 20 * The mails to those countries thus marked ( 1 ) are conveyed hi French packet via Marseilles. CALIFORNIA.—MaiIs to and from California, via the United State. are now despatched and due by every American packet. via the United stato s packet. 1, In conseq uence o f th e large number of passengers boo k ed for Egypt and India on the 20th of October, the day th e next India ma il i s di spa t c h e d from Southampton, steamers, the Sultan and Potti nger , w ill l eave th at por t f°` Alexandria on th e a b ove - name d d ay i nstea d of one. IV, mails will be taken o u t b y th e P ott i nger . T h i s arran ge ment will not interfere w i t h t h e di spa t c h o f an extra steamer to Alexandria on the 3d of November. BIRTHS. OF A SON. On the 28th ult., at lelvorth-park, Bury St. Edmund'il' the Lady Alfred Hervey. On the 28th ult., at Hilton-park, Wolverhampton, Oa wife of Lieutenant-Colonel Vernon, Coldstream Guards. OF A DAUGHTER. On the 28th ult., at Clapham-park, the lady of Williara Thornton West, Erq. On the 28th ult., at Brighton, the wife of B. Gardner, EEIP MARRIED. On the 30th tilt., at St. Marylebono Church, Mr. Frederii Elsworth, of Chancery-lane, to Angelina, second daughter 01 S. G• Pope, Esq , of Gloucester-crescent, Regent's-park. DIED. On the 27th ult., at Athlone, Captain Robert Bluntisbr Paymaster. 9th Regiment of Infantry, aged 66. On the 29th ult., at Blackheath, Lady Nelthorpe, of the late Sir Henry Nelthorpo, Bart., of Scawby, Lincoln shire, aged 71. On tii'e 29th ult., at Leytonstone-villas, Stratford, Majo r Thomas Sherman, late Royal Marines, aged". On the 28th ult., aged 84, at Offham, Sussex, Penelop e Ann, widow of the late T. Partington, Esq. London: Printed and Published by MURDO YOUNG, ° I No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The Sun Office, !k-o. Strand, in tb. Precinct of the Savoy, in the county ° Middlesex, Thursday, October 2, 1854 THURSDAY HUNGARY. " Honoured Sir,—We, t hetiitlersigned inhabitants of the town and county of the town of Southampton, cor dially bid you welcome to the shores of Britain, where your name is well known and dear to thousands, as being identified with the same principles on which the liberties, social order, and prosperity of this country are founded. "Be assured that the feelings with which we hail your arrival among us are designed to express something more than the ordinary formalities of civility. " We have been deeply interested in all the patriotic enterprises which your love of freedom and truth so eminently contributed to originate, for the Purpose of maintaining the ancient independence and free consti tutien of your native land, and which your wisdom and disinterested energies for so long a time served to pro mote; and in your endeavours to obtain for them a suc cessful issue you have shared our sincerest byropathies, and been the object of our most constant and heartfelt solicitude. " We forbear alluding to the various causes which have hitherto interfered with your z• 411 and self-duvo tion, bUt we cherish the firm persuasion that the victory you have sought is only postponed, and that there is an era to arrive in the history of Europe when the prin ciples for which you have contended will bra recognized and established on a firm and enduring basis in that great and glorious nation of which you are the ornament and the boast. " We thank the Almighty disposer of human events for preserving you amiklst innt:na2rahle peril", and we pray that wherever you sojourn you may enjoy that best of earthly portions which is set before the great and good of oilr race—the honest admiration of enlightened minds and the sincere affection of upright hearts; and that while au unanswerable refutation of the calumny of your enemies shall be furnished in the characteristic LIST c CER' Duty G'