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een put and d that order )n. Jr it did tbe the reso income-tax If the tax to. taken in the use deciding' down on the use were the i,rward sut. :ax in 1847-8 &Esher for skpd him to s d o ne—the at his (Mr . lume) then for ilipece Pith: three of )n, but that :Nlr. Hume) Ihequer, ex ard well,anill lers if they' ded by with the ex [ember eon ; of the mat ion. on a forrarr on the di' tard be ar ,at tax. Be nt. eb' ided interest be admitted 1 last week. ewr, to the the Coo' by the Lie& upon it, ex' the income mottunended for the Pre' ee, with the inst its coy on. Member Rice of his rried a mo- Tbe Howe , Idecision 013' eman would irst instance For the West ie tax, if h e would them Hon. Ma r In or sgail 4 other night !rho were in , then, there • After the g , atated that inquiry , h 1 mitten were Dnstituted at conversant received 11 Eject. That itttee to be In had not lace, the and holding It consented would not be Then there should de lellor of the 'eller of the, )f that hin d f his opinion nbers, as to the incotne' to be made elf in Core: mained, and did proceed me to some mbers, who e to the hi been told be udulent.He Metiaber .The le Lord Said the , way be u m b e r- for Ivria wicked Hon. Mem' aid present, of command re he must Ins bed been the preheat of extreme embarras ig with too supporters. ie bad taken of the oo lot to make al. There %s, that the th great ad- serer permit of Inquiry. le could not enrity were ianent tax. ' the House lit by with. position of nly did not anent. Bo the original ►lion of the bt, because hich it was pposite who ition *Mob I public, to forward his hat a Cora' r expected is the one a majority l9tion. He ►lion. The that would d to let the the House the House ion on the )elieve that rd bona fide i rrived at. n the pro f he could nittee. fie Et as it was, he did not at it with necessities )Bd, other sly on the the motion, possible to Tote in &b. would vote 99 ination of me Friday. be Ecelebi- Friday ? from 'ear. e Bill on Dn account )N Lis Bill. ed on Fri ,e with re pose. lie could in ke the Bill furred to - the preamble, so that the preamble was so framed as to lay a proper foundation for it. When they • eame to the preamble he should press on Government the propriety of considerably uttering the preamble Which was introduced, not with reference to the de claratory clause, but to provisioes Kith which that clause had no connexion. Two thiegs were essential; filet, that the measure be framed in scion a manner as to prevent fature legislation. Tney hat declared . the Papal brief of 1850 Hiegel and void; the necessary consequence of that was, that the Howie ought aleolo prohibit by the Bill any brief for the same purpose coning into theconn try,,which Would occasion a similar am unt of excite ment : He might say in the second clause of the Bill it teigb Ibe necessary to introduce a special proviso sub jectit ig persons bringing Papal briefs into this ceuetry to petialty. He would state before he came to the end of his observations the exact words he proposed to intro s duce in the second clause. The third point which he thought essential to the proper working of the Bill was, that if they passed a law of this kind care should be ' taken that it be enforced, and should nut be allowed to Blum ber on the statute-book.—(EDar, bear.) He would rather have no Bill at all than a law which it was nut intend ed to etiforce. Either thiameasure was just or unjus te If unjust, it ought not to be passed into ala ; but if' just, then iebehoved them - to take care that it should not be passed with the intention of not being en fore( id.--(Hear.) That raised the question as to how the liaw was to be enforced. The Government proposed that to the Attorney-General alone should be left the The ter to prosecute for the pen dry. He had suggested that any indivi , uai should be at liberty to do so. He ' tht enght both courses open to o's.j. csien. The Govern -nu Mt plan was clearly open to ebj .ction, because by it • the country' would have no guerante, that this measure Would be enforced any more than the act of 1829. Oe 'the other hand, he could not but feel that leasing to soy - ibot ly the right of prosecution might make the measure • an instrument of oppression and persecution. They all knew that there were persons who were warm partisans —enthusiastic individuals with more zeal than 'discre tion who might be induced to prosecute under the Biel if they had the power to do so, but who would bring to that prosecution their own imperfect intelligence and in ' sufficient grounds, and thus defeat the object of the mem - sure. that were so, two great difficulties had to be d E 'alt with. In the first place, they were all agreed that tb a principle upon which to proceed - was that the law chi mid be enforced, but that in enforcing it it should note be made either vexatious - or oppressive. He thought the, suggestion of the Hon. and Learned Member for • Abijegdon would meet this objection. The Hon. and Lea owed Gentleman proposed that the Crown as well as the subject should be able to prosecute for the penalty. Tht :`effect of that would be that the Crown as well as the subjeet will both of them have the power as well as the iinterest to see that the law was properly enforced. If the Attorneys General should slumber at his post— , he . did' not think his Honourable and Learned Friend ivo aid be liable to that imptvation—by giving to the sat ject the right to prosecute, and by imposing on the Attorneys General the necessity of putting a veto on the proceedings in case he did not think the ' pros ecution advisable—the Attorney-General would be pred ented becoming ' remiss -or negligent when the .Birt became law. So, on the other hand, by giving - to I be Crown the right of vetoing a prosecution by an ind ividual, care was taken as far as possible by legisla to provide against the possibility of any oppressive or vexatious enforcement of the law.—(Hear.) He be . .11.31 •ed he- had explained the greater portion of the amt mclments he had given notice of, with the exception of - eune to which- the Noble Lord opposite alluded at the - eon elusion of the debate on Friday. The Noble Lord had then asked him what he meant to do with regard to' cumulative penalties. He did not think there were e - an.y cumulative penalties in the amendments. A power was proposed to be given to the Crown of deporting a e 'peel ion fur the second offence. Now there were great diffi eulties—he might say there was great imprudence— e ,ny individual proposing such en emendment as that, if t he Government—with whom rested the responsibility of s teeing that the laws were properly observed and en . fon red—should think such an amendment not necessary for the enforcing of a law like this. Considering, there ,' 'forte, that the responsibility was with the Government — cot taidering it - was better to prevent, if possible, the re :pet ition of similarencroaohments by mild rather than by see .ere and oppressive punishments—and considering also the ,t some credit ought to be given to Roman Catholics, the at if the Bill passed they did not intend to disobey it, he had, speaking for himself alone, come to the cot solusion that he ought not to press the deportation cis 'use. Of the three points, therefore, of which he had gieren notice, only one was now before them. The 'HI mse having declared the brief illegal, ought to pro 'hit sit the introduction of like briefs under penalties simi le,: to those that were imposed for the assumption of ee cleeiastical titles. He, therefore, proposed to insert, el !ter the words "any person," the folio eing words: " who shall hereafter obtain or cause to be procured •se from the See of the Bishop of R , me, or shall publish or !put in issue, any brief, rescript, letters apostolical, or • . 'other instrument or wiling, for the purpose of cunetitut - . lug within the kingdom of England a nierarchy of bishops named from sees, and with titles- derived from p l aces , be . ilotegieg to the Crown of England."—(Hear.) Then fol • loived words which would subject him to the same penal lie s as if he had swum , d ecclesiastical titles. The question having been put, .. Mr. ROCHE thought the amendment so important tl oat it ought to be printed before being discussed Mr.. WALPOLE said it was nearly the same as the a mendment on the votes. The only difference was that tl se words " United Kingdom" were omitted with refe rt mace to publication; and instead of "for the purposes aeloresaid," he had made a recital of them, in order to r, take the clause intelligible. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL gave the Hon. and - Learned Member for Midhurat credit for wishing •to niiake the Bill as perfect as possible; but, nevertheless, • thought the clause he bad just proposed open to very great objection. In fact, it would have the effect of mak e. brig the penalties cumulative. (The Hoe. and Learned Gientleman here proceeded to read the amendments as tl my stood on the paper, when Mr. Walpole intimated that he gave up toe third amendment.) He (the Attor siey-General) should confine his remarks to the second, which the Committee, he thought, would see involved Ctemulative penalties. It ,provided that if any person hould publish, or put in use, &c., any brief such as that • referred to in the preamble and in the first clause, he • -should be liable in a penalty of 100/. But, let it be ob served, that if a Roman Catholic ecclesiastic should have - received from Rome a brief or .rescript appointing him bishop of Some diocese, with territorial title, 'he !would be liable to a twofold penalty under this provision in the second clause, because he would be litable if he accepted the brief, and he would be liable ,he assumed the title. The title could not be assumed except by virtue of a rescript of the Pope, and the real. offence, and that against which the Bill was di - need, was the assumption of the title. By the amend • meat, therefore, it was proposed to split one transaction into.two, and to inflict for that which was but one of fence two penalties. It was, therefore, cumulative in its character. If the person who procured the brief was a . different person. from the person who assumed the title, then it might be said that there was a different offence. It the diocese was once constituted the rescript might be - -supposed to have been issued by the Pope for tee pur pose of appointing a bishop, and the parties would be liable under the provieien in the second clause. The :- Attorney-General in framing an information under this Bill against the assumption of title under rescript from • Rome, would state both points, and all the parties would be liable to the penalty. He apprehended that that was not what the Committee desired. Let the law be well known; and he thought it would prevent a repetition of the aggression. . - Mr. S. WORTLEY said that knowing the overwhelm . ingepinion of the House in favour of legislation on this - subject, he had thought that he would best befriend the measure by leavi, git in their hands. It was because be wished to e the Bill efficient that he should support 'the amendment of the Hon. Member for Midhurat. He did not think —.see was any gr, sad for the objection of the Attorn.s General. Indeed, he thought as far as he had heard the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, that he had Shown, act that the penalty was cumulative, but that ' there might be two offences wi-h the penalty attaching to each. The wowing a rescript and the assumption of _ titles. were : different offences. So if a person having as sumed a title should follow it up by issuing et pastoral • - letter, that would be a separate offence. - Mr..ROCHE thought the disagreement of opinion - among those learned in the law showed the necessity of . basing the amenchnene printed and considered before being called on to agree to it. He gave the Hon. and Learned Amber for Midhuret credit for wishing to make ,* bad Bill worse. He had no wish to throw obstacles in the way of the Bill, but felt it his duty to move that the amendment be postponed: The CHAIR MAN said it was not .competent f or the Hon.:and Learned Member to make such a motion. • - Mr, IdIJME had always understood that the consider ' -Mimi of any ameedment might be postponed. The-CHAIRMAN said if ehe Member who_ proposed „ 1 so amondment thought proper toot(rzend ut h t; ed;-r • . nonetn ent• of it, then it might be pos knew an amendment postponed merely on the motion of another-Hon. Member. • Mr. MOORE urged postponement. The lawyers were in doubt, and at variance in their opinions. The fiest.clause was surrounded with difficulties, and the a House had passed it without knowing what it meant. s He begged to move that the Chairman report progress. • Sir R. INGLIS thought the discuss ion which had • -arisen on the amendment bad proceeded entirely on a misconception. It had been assumed that the Honour able and Learned Member for telidburst had added ded .- something to the amendment of which he had • _ notice, while the only alteration he bad made was the omission of a portion of it. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman did not propose to take the sense of the Com mitteeen anything which they had not bad deliberately before them. •e Sir F. THESIGER trusted the Hon. Member for Mayo would not press his amendment forreporting pro great', because it appeared to him that the Irish Members —if he might be pardoned the expression—ought to be the last persons to resist the alteration proposed, for the amendment pointed merely to the kingdom of England. • From the first the Government bad declared their inten tion to extend the Bill to Ireland, and to . have the law uniform. He had ventured to propose an amendment, extending the Bill to all rescripte, similar to that of the 29th September; but had gives way, in the belief that the suggestion of the Hon. and Learned Member for Midhuret would effect the object he had in view. He h a d, however, reserved to himself the right of pro s- posing the amendments in the report in case the Hon. and Learned. Member for Midhurat should not be successful. , The Hon. and . Learned Gentleman, by restricting his amendment to E had se ehangel the character of it , that though he appr ove d of i t as tar as it went, he must fall back on his right to propose his cwn amendment on the bringing up of the report. • Mr. MOORE said the Irish Members had no wish to -obatruct.. the. They 74 114 W .UndeTstaixt that 94 193 It which he did not think the English Members—if he might bo pardoned the expression—(A. langh)—cared much about understanding.—(A laugh.) After the dif ferent statements they had heard, he was not sure that the Solicitor-General would not get up and tell them that the amendment had quite another meaning than that which had been given to it. As he did not wish to obstruct the progress of the measure, he should with draw his motion for reporting progress. Mr. T. M'CULLAGd said, when they were discuss ing a law epplicaole to England, and the principle of which might he extended to leelend. it behoved them to know exactly the positioo in which they stoed. .He would ask the Chairman whether the amendment was ap plicable to the Hulce d Kiegdom or England only ? Toe CEIAIRMAN read the terms of the amendment, by which it appeared to be applicable to Fugland only. Mr. T. M . CULLAGEI said he wanted w know, when the Hon. and Learned Member for Midburst proposed passing ala v affecting the kingdom of Eogland, whe ther he meant to carry out that enactment in that king. dom alont ? If eo, he would have to add many other clauses to the Bill. Colonel RAWDON asked the Chairman whether a clause which wes without the scope of the title of a Bill could be introduced in Committee ? The CHAIRMAN was understood to say that the present clause was within its scope. Mr. W ALPOLE said there were two important questions to be considered in the present legislation. What they had w meet was an encroachment upon the prerogative of the Crown in one place, and the aseump tion of certain titles in other parts of the kingdom Tne sole object which he had in view was to meet those evils; and he did not inamd it .should extend beyond the specific off awes it was calculated to meet—nem-Iv, the constitution of a R , neon Catholic hierarchy in &Ireland. Having le ad his ciausete we Hon. and L awed Member coac'uded by observing that his preamble, his declaratory and his enecting clauses, were all trained so as to follow each other harmoniously. Mr. M'CULLAGLI still complained that They were legislating without understanding or knowing what they were doing. The AT FORNEY-GENERAL said,. after his Hon. and Learned Friend had said he would withdraw his first and last clause, they could not know what he meant ; and he thought his Hon. Friend was involving them in greeter difficulties and inconsistencies every step he took.---(flear, hear.) Sir F. T HESIGER, thought the difficulties of the judges in Ireland, if any case came before them for decision, would be increased by his Hon. and Learned Friend's proposition. Mr. TRELA.W NY said he thohght the law should be the same in both countries on that subject, as well as every other. Mr. WALPOLE repeated what he had before said, with respect to the two points to which he confined his clause—the encroachment on the prerogative of the Crown, and the assumption of ecclesiastical titles in any part of the kingdom. Lord J. RUSSELL did not think the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had got rid of the objections made to his clause. What the Hon. Member did propose about making an assumption of a title an offence here, did make a difference between England and Ireland. Far his own part, his own objection to the clause was of a general nature. It was not framedin accordance with the spirit of the Act of 1829, beyond which the Govern ment did not wish to go. tie would therefore oppose that clause, and every amendment of a similar kind which went to extend the penalties under the • Act. - After a few words in explanation from Mr. WAL- POLE, Mr. NAPIER suggested to his Hon. and Learned Friend nut to press his amendment; as if ever there was a time when it was necessary to have uniformity of prac tice, it was when they were engaged -in legislating on a great constitutional principle. Mr. STANFORD said the Hon. and Learned Member for Midhurst had conducted himself all through that discussion with so much moderation, discretion, and judgment, that though differing in religious belief fr..m many Hon. Members around him, he had never heard one of them impugn that . Hon. and Learned Member's character or conduct.—(Hear, hear,) He confessed he had .not been able distinctly to understand some of the points involved in the particular questions under discus sion; and he thought the Hon. Member for Athlone and other Hon. Members who thought with him had a per fect right to demand a full explanation from the Govern ment of that system which they proposed carrying out for the satisfaction of the Protestant people of this coun• try. Ho was opposed to Popish ascendancy, but had a kindly feeling towards his Roman Catholic fellow-sub jects, and he could say that they never should have an ascendancy of any kind, Popish or Protestant, in this country, which wee not founded on sound reason and ar gument. He bad listened with great attendon to all the speeches which had been delivered in the course of that debate particularly those o f the law officers of the Crown. All parties bad agreed that there was no intention in pursuing that legislation to interfere with the free action of the religion of their Roman Catholic fellow-subjects; and he did sincerely believe that there was nut an Hon. Member on his- side of the House who would not join in that se-ntimi nt. But in legislating upon that suekcit they had many ai d serious matters to take into consi deration. They hid to consider, as he had done, the statute of Richard IL. and the 13th of Elizabeth, and 10th Geo. IV., cap. 27. And having given all these various Acts full consideration, they shuuld weigh how far the present position 0 the Roman Catholics was af tected by the existing law, and bow far it might be af fected by the proposed Bill.- - -(Hear, hear.) By the 9th and 10th Vict., these missives of the Pope were illegal, and we did not therefore require any new legislation to declare that they were so. What had offended this country was the assumption of tides and the parcelling out of the kingdom into dioceses; and the Master of the Rolls had stated that that could not be prevented except by recurring to obsolete statutes; so that there appeared to be no possibility of meeting this case except by the enactment of a fresh law.—(Hear, hear.) If H on . Members were prepared to follow the honest and open line of policy which the country expected from them, then they would adopt the clause proposed by the Hon. and Learned Member for Midhurst (Mr. Walpole). But he could assure them that no sinistrous course—however dexterous it might be—(Laughter)—would give satisfac tion to the public. He (Mr. Stanford) should support amendment. Sir R. H. INGLIS objected to the amendment, as creating a distinction between England and Ireland, and recommended Mr. Walpole to withdraw it, and reserve to himself the power of framing some other clause not open to the exception which was applicable to this. Mr. WALPOLE said that,'feeling his Hon. Friends on that side of the House did not wish him to press the clause, he was unwilling to do that which would be con trary to their better judgment. He hoped, however, if' he did not pat the Committee to the trouble of a division, that neither the Government nor the country would find —as he feared they might hereafter find—another brief coming into the country, and even themselves placed in a mere awkward position than they were then now. Mr. HORSM AN commended the consistency of the course which had been pursued by Mr. Walpole through out. His Hon. and Learned Friend's clause had been found fault with because it drew a distinction between England and Ireland. But that which was urged as an objsction to the amendment constituted in his (Mr. &inmates) eyes its chief recommendation; for nothing could be more absurd, in legislating upon a question of this kind, than to say that the same principle should apply to both countries, though the one were Protestant and the other Roman eatholic—or that because the Pope bad done something which was insulting to England, therefore we were determined to put an end to the Papal hierarchy in Ireland. He should give his hearty sup port to the amendment. After a few words from Mr. SCULLY, in opposition to the amendment, Mr. Walpole'a clause was, by leave, withdrawn. Mr. REYNOLDS said, that two hours and a half had been spent in discussing an amendment which had been at last withdrawn, and he wished to know if all the amendments standing in the name of the Honourable and Learned Member for Midhurst were also to be withdrawn? Mr. WALPOLE had already stated the coarse he meant to take. He would support the amendment of his Hon. and Learned Friend the Member fur Abingdon (Sir F. Thesiger) relative to the prosecuting power, and he vrould press his own amendments on the preamble. After a fee , words from Mr. KEOGH, Mr. 51 1 CULLAGH moved the amendment of which he had given notice, offer the words by , law,' to in sert these words, or who shall have been recognised as Roman Catholic archbishop of any province,. Roman Catholic bishop of any diocese, or Roman . Catholic dean of any deanery, by any of her Majesty's superior courts of law or equity.' " The documents to which he would refer Were either originals er at tested copies. The first was .a. document of. the Court of Chancery in Ireland at the time when Sir Edward Sagden was Chancellor. After the Be quests Act was passed the Roman Catholic inhabitants of Drogheda, considering that certain property which had hitherto been applied to Protestant purposes alone by the corporation, should be also applied for the .benefit of Roman Catholics, brought the case before the Court of Chancery, and Sir Edward Sugden directed an in quiry by the Master as to who should be the proper trustees, and the Master found that the property was applicable, without regard to sect, to the children of the poor of the locality, and its his report the Master named eight Prot estant an d 'e i ght R oman C a th o lic trust ees of the .common fund, th e fi r st of the Roman Catholic trus t e report, a " tees 'proposed by Muter Henn, being, in the words of , " the M ost R ev . D r. C ro tt y , R oman C a th o li c Archbishop of of ex A ce r n al ti a o r i ba' were and taken; Primate of an d I Ireland." a the nd order . "T e o r made by Chancellor S be affirmed Master kimi t l tgden, on the hearing of them, report, and awarded costs, to show the futility eif the death of Dr. Crotty Proceedings were again taken to have the vacancy i An the trustees filled up; and in Master Henn 's second report b e remar kable words, in filli es up .made t use of still more na me of " the Most Rev. Paul. the lle v e, .11. aca lr Roman y withthe Catholic Archbishora of Armagh, end Primate of Ire land." It had bee stated in t h e cours e o of the present all n debate tha t the p resent Rom an Catholic Bishop of Arma gh had been sent from Italy in vi o l at i on of the law of the land and the usage of .the - Irish Ch urc h. But of the four last Archbishops of Armagh only o ne was elected by the clergy—the other three were trans ferred by the Pope from other places: Dr. Curtis from -from Italy, and Dr. Kelly translated from Dr. Cullen from another see in Ireland. There was another cave. A gentleman named But ke left a large sum for chari table purposes to the Romeo- Catholic Archbishop of Tuain, Dr. M'Hale, and a question having arisen be tween the legatee and the inheritors of the estate, a bill was filed in Chancery, and letters of administration were sought in the Prerogative Court by Dr. INI'llale; the letters of administration were granted in the name of the P1%4644 1 4 - r *Beat Um Inagua _hest of f that LONUON I TUESDAY court, to "John, Roman Catholic Archbishop of Tuam, and his Grace the Primate of Ireland;" and the paper bore the siz,nature of the judge of the court, Dr. Keat inge. The present Master of the Rolls, in finally adju dicating caw, the referred in his order to an affidavit made by the " Roman Catholic Archbishop of Team." These were the words. The next ease he would refer to was one in which a bequest was made to Dr. John Cantwell, Bishop of Meath; and Master Litton, in his report, found that the possession of the prop?rty vested in " the Most Rev. Dr, Cantwell, Roman Catholic Bishop of. Meetb." H (Mr. M'Cullagh) was entitled, then, to say /het the superior courts of law in Ireland had recognised the existence of those titles. Mr. NAPIER said that on every point of the ques tion, especially as far as it related to Ireland, it was important they should see their way clearly, because an attempt had been made to confuse the state of the law as rezarded Ireland, and induce the belief that there was a difference between the law of the two countries, and also to induce the people of Ireland to believe that what the House was now engaged in was a species of crusade against them and their religion, whereas they were only employed in declaring what was the law and the con stitution of the country in the matter. And when he inward the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir J. Graham) the other night telling . them that they were declaring war ageinat 8,000 ; 000 of her Majesty's subjects, at a time when they were only explaining the law of the land, he listened pith pain and indignation to the Right Honourable Baronet. What he challenged Honourable Gentlemen to show was, what difflence there was be tween the law of the two countries. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman, in his amendment, spoke of the Roman Catholic archbishops, bishops, or deacons who shall have been recognised as such by the superior courts of law and equity. With nerd to the courts of law, he had heard no instance mentioned of their having re cognised them. But, there were some cases which had occurred, previous to the Act of '29 to which he was eurprised that reference had not been made. The only case in Ireland which would be aff-cred by this new legislation was that of the Bishop of Galway; and even with regard to that it did not make the assumption of the title a new offence, the annexation of a penalty to what was prohibited by the Act of '29 being in fact but a new punishment. With respect to what had been said about letters of ordination, marriage certificates, and the like, and their being put in evidence in certain cases, in all his experience he had never known an instance but one of the kind, and that was the case of a marriage certificate. But with reference to the cases he had re ferred to as occurring in the law courts, one was an ap plication to the Queen's Bench by a priest, who had be come a Protestant, for a mandamus to compel Dr. Murray to give him letters of ordination, in order that he might prove his title, and obtain preferment in the Established Church. Chief Just!ce &she, a man of the most marked courtesy, delivered a written judgment, and throughout he called the Roman Catholic bishop Dr. Murray. Again, in the case of a property demised to a Roman Catholic bishop and his successors, a question arose on the death of the bishop between the heir-at-law and the successor of the bishop, the former claiming by descent, the bishop claiming as devisee; and the heir-at-law suc ceeded, the Court not recognising the official character of the title. Bat what was the opinion of Dr. M`Rale himself on the question of titles? In the year 1830, writing to the Bishop of Exeter, Dr. M'Hale said, "Keep, then, your titles and your palaces. As for your titles, leaving the vein ambition of such baubles to your Lord ship and the Gentiles, we shall be content with the more Christian office of administering to the spiritual wants of those over whom we are appointed." In the case re ferred to by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman the tes tator bequeathed 37,0001. for charitable purposes to Dr. Murray, Archbishop of Dublin, and Dr. Kelly, Arch bishop of Tuem, and their successors. On the death of Dr. Kelly, Dr. Murray and his co-trustees executed a deed of appointment nominating Dr. M'Hale the succes sor of Dr. Kelly, but Dr. M'Hale did not as a matter of course, as being the successor of Dr. Kelly in the see of Tuam, become a trustee without that deed of appoint ment. Again, in the case of the letters of administra tion referred te by the Hon. Gentleman as having been taken out by Dr. M'Elale in the Prerogative Court, how did he sign the administration bond? Why, with the words ".J. M'Hale." As to the case of Sir E. Beg ten, it was to be observed that Sir E. Sugden never saw ire The Master certainly did see it, and did, as he would have done himself in similar circumstances, permitted it to pass where there was no question about it. Such then were the cases on which they were called upon to make a provision. But then they were told of the Bequests Act. Why, the book he held in his band, written by a Roman Cathelto barrister, referred to the Bequests Act, and declared that the rights which the Roman Catholic bishops ex ercised could be so exercised without acknow ledging them to be bishops of any particular diocese; And also that the Bequests Act made no alteration in their status.—(Elear.) And yet it was said that it amounts d to a declaration of war against her Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects when they were called upon to pass a deteneive Act—(Hear)—and in so doing, he said that they could make no distinction between England and Ireland. He denied that the Roman Catholics in Englend were entitled to less liberty than the Boman Catholics in Ireland, or that the Protestants of Ireland were entitled to less protection than the Protestants of Etigland.—(Cheere.) It they made any such distinction be asked what kind of a United Kingdom they were to have ? Mr. REYNOLDS was not, he said, disposed to fol low into the maze of law into which, the Hon. and Learned Gentleman would lead them, and who on this occasion was to be regarded as counsel for the Irish branch of the Protestant Established Church of England and Ireland.—(Hear.) The Hon. and Learned Gentle man had referred, he said " with pain and indignation" to the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon. These were strong words to be used by one of the meek and religious character of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman.—(Hear.) Now, he repeated the words of the Right Hon. Baronet, and he said that the Roman Catholic people of Ireland would consider this Bill a declaration of war against their religion.—(Hear, hear.) He went further, and said that it was his belief that if this Bill became law, the Roman Catholic re ligion could not be carried on in Ireland but by the permission of the Attorney-General for the time being.—(Bear.) Although he intended to vote for the proviso, he set little value on it, as it would-not refer to more than a few bishops, and even if it were carried he would set little value on it.—(Hear, hear.) Neither would he have voted for the amendment of the Hon. and Learned Member for Midhurst, which exempted Ireland, because in doing so it would have imposed penalties on the Roman Catholic Church in England. He believed that the first clause being adopted without any explana tory proviso, the oth er c l auses were of little consequence, for in the fi rs t c l ause m i g ht b e sa id to b e "the Bill, the whole Bill, and nothing but the Bill." The Bill itself was a declaration of religious war; it was an attempt to prop up the religion o f th e m i nor ity i n Ireland, an d to throw obstacles in th e wa y o f th e C a th o li c Church in Ireland—established therein by no human law, but pro vided, maintained, and preserved therein by the law of God; and he now told the Government that the Roman Catholics would sooner sacrifice their lives than submit to any law which interfered with their religion. Mr. J. O'CONNELL remarked that at the timo of gassing the Emancip-aton Bill it hal been officially in tansted to the Roman Catholic prelates that the clause is !It 1.311 aff:cting their titles would not be acted upon. Bearing that in mind, they used expressions on which an argument was now sought to be founded by the son. and Learned Member for the University of Dublin, who, in the same breath, argued that no attention was to be paid to words deliberately inserted in legal deeds. He egr ettc d that the Hon. and Learned Member had not imitated the example of his co-religionists in Ireland, and not joined in that common clamour against the Roman Catholics which was so disgraceful to this country. Sir W. VERNER remarked that the Hon. Member for Dublin told the Noble Lord at the head of the Go vernment that if this Bill passed it would be opposed by the Roman Catholics of Ireland. He, on the contrary, said, if the Bill became law it would be supported by the Protestants of Ireland.—(Elear, hear.) How could they be called loyal subj , eta who dared the head of her Ma jesty's Government to enforce the law? If the Roman Catholics opposed the law of the land, then they would be rebels.—(Rear, hear.) And yet this was said by a couple dozen of Roman Catholic Msmbers who were not allowed to have an opinion of their own, but were forced to obey the wishes of their clergy.—(Cries of " Oh, oh," and cheers) Ho (Sir W. Verner) hoped the English Membrrs would put a atop to this proceeding, they had the mains in their own hands. Mr, M. J. O'CONNELL hoped the Government was awake to the topics of the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman. The opposition of the Hon. Member fir Dublin was lets fatal than the support of the Hon. and Gallant Member. The supporters promised by him were those men whom Sir R. Abercrombie once said were dangerous to every one but the enemy. Remembering past times, the de claration of the Hon. and Gallant Officer gave CIUSO to suspect danger. He flung back upon the Hon. Baronet the imputation that Catholics had no will of their own with calm but perfect scorn. They were, moreover, members of no secret societies. Mr. SCULLY said the loyalty of the men adverted to by the Gallant Colonel was not long since designated "a sixpenny loyalty," and there was no reason to suppose it had changed its character since 1849. He deprecated such imputations as were cast upon the Catholics of Ire land by the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman, and denied his statement as to the number of Protestants in that coun try. In conclusion he called upon the Government not to place any dependence on the quasi Orangemen of Ire land, but to depend upon the love and loyalty of the Ca tholics. Sir W. VERNER explained. The Hon. Member had dared the Prime Minister to pass the Bill on pain of the opposition of the Roman Catholics of Ireland. He (Sir W. Verner) believed that the lion. Member did not re present the opinions of that body; but if he did, then he (Sir W. Verner) had nothing to withdraw from his state ment. Mr. REYNOLDS explained. He bad never dared the Prime Mieiater to pass the Bill; but he told him his threats had no weight with him (Mr. Reynolds); and Lpenal law, the Catholics of this d a y es:tors had done—soff,r even death for would u t ti d i h f ehi actr e a p t. . 60 1 sl theiri s g e i d any n a n if nee-scary. He (Mr. Reynolds) denounced the conduct of the Hon. and Gallant Member, for urging on the Government to cut down his Catholic fellow-countrymen. He would tell him that the Catho ' lies despised his threats, and defied his power, and that such braggadocis was laughed to scorn by the people of Ireland. The Honourable end Gallant Gentleman talked of 2 ,000,000 of Protestants ; but in 1835 there W ere only 750,000 Episcopalians, and 750,000 of all o' her di-nominatn Ili. The Honourable Gentleman, with " l 3 the uf the antnond" courage. said the Protestants of Irel an d were three midiuns.—( N o.) If th ese state ments were no t controverted, they believed their own Honourable Gelitnua .en would go on Poetising until untruth.--(0h, 91 2 i) ge (B ir, Roinoide) hoped there would be an end of this Battle of the Diamond boasting —tbe Dolly's Brae boasting—end that the Government would recollect the rate-in-aid loyalty of the Members for Protestant constituencies in Ireland.—(Cries of " Question.") The boasting of the Gallant General was what he (Mr. Reynolds) called Tallagh Hill " talk ; he could not, and be dared not, carry it into execution. He (Mr. Reynolds) repeated his statement that the Pro testants of Ireland, as a body, were not in favour of the Bill. After a few words from Mr. J. O'CONNELL, in ex- The Committee divided, when there appeared— For the amendment 45 Against it ... 291 Majority against the amendment —246_ -Mr. MOORE then proposed as an amendment, after the words England and Ireland to insert these words, "so long as the said Church shall continue to be the United Church-of England and Ireland." It appeared to him that those who wished that the Established Church should continue as , it was- in both countries would have an objection to that - propeeition; but another section of the House, including the Noble Lord bineself, who did not wish that the said Church should b 3 the Church of England and Ireland, could have no objection to his pro position. The Noble Lord himself had declared, on pre vious occasions, that - such were his opinions. On a memorable occasion the Noble Lord had said that unless they made a sweeping reform in the Esta blished Church of Ireland, there ought to be a re peal of the Union. He would entreat of the Com mittee to consider at that moment what were the feelings of dissatisfaction and disaffection in Ireland in connexion with the Established Church in Ire land. That establishment in Ireland was only continued to maintain a flimsy abate, at which he believed even its supporters laughed in their sleeves.—(Question, gnus tton.) He would leave it to the judgment of the Noble Lord to. bring forward that measure in respect to the Established Church in Ireland that he bad so long led them to anticipate, and which they had a right to ex pect from, his sense of justice. The CHAIRMAN having put the question. Mr. H. DRUM.MOND said he should think that there would be a great want of propriety in him if, upon a clause in a Bill having-objects wholly disconnected with the state of the Established Church in Ireland, he ven tured into any such irrevalent matter. He was not sur prised that there was such a considerable feeling of dis appointment in the House at the stste to which that discussion bad arrived.—(Hear, hear.) It did not become him to offer any advice to the House; but for himself he would pursue this course: he would not attempt to modify, to amend, or to -alter in any way the provisions of the Bill. Let the Government and those who choose to meddle with it, with a view to its perfection or destruetion, treat it as they pleased, for it was their own child. Bat he would ven ture to suggest to Hon. Gentlemen that they should re serve themsrlves- for that which he thought was an exe'odingly likely and the best course, in order not to deceive the country with a false measure ; which was in tended by words to enact' that which it neaer could do, and by which they would really compromise their own character as well as deceive the people.—(Cheers.) Mr. REYNOLD:4 said it occurred to him that the Noble Lord should favour the Committee with his opi nion as to the merits of this proviso, He was- desirous to have the benefit of his opinion, recollecting as he did the many brilliant and powerful speeches that had been delivered by him on the subject of the Irish Church.— (har a hear.) The Hon. Member for Mayo had now furnished the Noble Lord a golden opportunity of ex pressing himself on the subject.—(Laughter.) He grounded his belief upon his last memorable effort upon the appropriation clause discussion in 1835, when he carried his motion triumphantly through the House; the result of which was the dislodgement of the late Right Hon. Baronet (Sir Robert Peel) from office. Would the Noble Lord then divide the Committee now upon the harmless proposition of the Hon. Member for Mayo? Would he enable them to tell the millions of Ireland—aye, and the Presbyterians of Scotland and England, that the Noble Lord was anxious to remove the injustices of the Established Cnurch in Ireland Was the Church ,of the minority to be still forced upon the im mense majority of that country, who were compelled to maintain it slung with their own? He thanked the Right Hon. Baronet in his own name, and in the name of nis fellow-countrymen for the manly advocacy of the interests of 7,000,000 of Irish Catholics, whose grati tude would compensate for the harsh effects of the lan guage of the Hon. Member for the University of Dublin. Lord J. RUSSELL said his opinion was that the speech of the Hon. Member had nothing to do with the amendment before the House, and he should therefore decline the invitation to enter upon the discussion of the question of the Established Church of England and Ireland. The Committee then divided, when there appeared— For the amendment ... ... ... 36 Against it ••• ... 240 MajArity against the amendment ... -204 Mr. REYNOLDS moved that the Chairman report progress. and ask leave to sit again. • Lord J. RUSS consented to the motion. Committee to be resumed on Friday. The Prisons (Scotland) Bill went through Committee. SALMON FISHERIES (IRELAND). Mr. CONOLLY moved for leave to bring in a Bill to consolidate and amend the laws relating to salmon fisheries in Ireland, but stated that it was not his in tention to press it during the present session. Sir W. SOMERVILLE would not oppose the intro duction of the Bill after the statement of the Honourable Member. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill, whioh was read a first time. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND ob tained leave to bring in a Bill to amend an Act of the 11th and 12th years of her Majesty, relating to poor rate poundage and the valuation of ecclesiastical property in Ireland, and to provide for the renewal of leases of lands disappropriated from bishoprics. On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, Mr. Fox Maule was discharged from further attendance on the Select Committee on Kafir Tribes, and Mr. Labourchere was added to the Committee. The other busiuess was then disposed of, end the House adjourned at a Quarter to One o'clOck. DEATH of the EARL of SRAFTESBORY We regret to announce the decease yesterday of that venerable and much-respected nobleman, Cropley Ash ley Cooper. Earl of Shafiesbury, Baron Ashley of Wim borne.St. Giles, county Dorset, Baron Cooper, of Pan lett, county Somerset, and a baronet. The noble de-, ceased was born Dec. 27, 1768, consequently he was in the 83d S ear of his age. lie married, Dec. 10, 1796, Anne, daughter of George, Duke of Marlborough, and aunt of the present Duke, and succeeded to the title of Earl of Shatte,bury on the death of his brother, the sixth Earl, in May, 1811. Four sons and three daugh ters survive the late Noble Earl, the eldest of whom is Lord Ashley, now Earl of Shaftesbury, whose elevation to the House of Peers creates a vacancy in the represen. tation of the city of Bath. The late Earl of Shaftesbury for many years most ably filled the high and responsible office of Chairman of Committees of the House of Lords; and on his retire ment a short time since from that onerous post received t h e well-merited eulogies of the beads of all parties. DEATH OF MR. RICHARD LALOR SHELL. We regret to say that intelligence reached town yes terdayof the sudd en d eath of the Right Hon.- afternoon, of heil, her. Majesty' s recently appo i nte d Riehar Richard t Minister at the Court ot Tuscany. The immediate cause of t hi s m elancholy event is stat e d to h ave been an attack of gout in the stomach; but there is reason to believe that a late tragical incident- in the Hon. Gentleman's family, i nvo lving the lamentable death of his son-in-law, , Mr. Power, of Garteen, occasioned a shock which has proved too great for the highly excitable nervous sus ceptibility and keen sensitiveness which invariably se com panies - the. higher order o f gen i us such as distin guished Mr. Sheil. The Right lion. Gentleman was in his 57th year, having been born in 1794. He married, first, Miss O'Llalloran, neice of Sir. W. Mahon, Bart.; secondly, 1830, the daughter of John Lalor, Esq., of Crane, near Clonmel, relict of Eimund Power, Esq., of Garteen, c o unty Tipperary. H e was called to the Irish bar in 1814; was Vice-President of the Board of Trade from March, 1839—when he was appointed a Privy C ou ncillor —till June, 1841; and Judge Advocate- General from June to September, 1841. LAW PROPERTY ASSURANCE AND TRUST SOCIETY. —The first annual general meeting of this society was held Essex-street. The chair was taken by at the offices, 30, Edward William Cox, Esq., the chairman of the society. There was a numerous attendance of the shareholders. Tne report congratulated the meeting on the entire success of the society. At the end of the first year the income more than doubled the expenditure, so that already it bad becoMe self supporting, a fact almost unprecedented in the history of assurance offices. - They . bad received 313 proposals, of which 192 were accepted and in force, yielding an annual income of 2,234/., and 27 other proposals had been accepted and were in progress of completion. Not a. single lite assured had dropped during the year, All the shares were subscribed and only a few forfeited ones remained. The utility of the ,and of the redemption assurance of leaseholds and copyholds of mortgages and loans, although a novel application of the principle of assurance, was already recognized by the public, and many policies of this - class bad been effected. The assurance of titles was beginning tube understood, and many proposals were before the board. The application of this to the use of large properties sold in small lots by substitution of a policy of assurance of title for the investigation of the whole, and attested copies for each separate purchaser, was likely to be very exte ns i ve ly adopted. The expenses f forming the society, including the registration, &c., and every cost, had been singularly small—not exceeding 1,2001. Their excellent offices coat them only 100/. a year including taxes; they had one of the most efficient actuaries and secretaries in London, and their entire office expenses did not exceed 700/. a year. There was no doubt now that the society would speedily become one of the most extensive and influential, as its objects are the most useful of any yet established in the United Kingdom. The report was unanimously adopted. A sum was voted to the directors and auditors, with thanks for their services. The retiring directors having been re elected, and thanks unanimously voted to the chairman, the meeting separated. 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THE ROUTE TO AMR-AMC—The Parliamentary Committee on steam communication with India, China, and Australia, decided yesterday (Monday), by a majority of 11 to 5, in favour of the rcute to Australia, by the Cape, as being the most desirable for the transport of the mails. 4 SUFI, JUN; , EVEN GREAT FESTIVAL OF THE “LAT TER-DAY SAINTS." The London conference festival of the " Latter-day Saints" was held yesterday afternoon, with all the cere mony peculiar to the order, at the Freemasons' Tavern, Great Qleen-street. Elder Eli B. Kelsey, president of the conference, occu pied the chair. Some time before three o'clock, the hour fixed for commencing the business of the day, the body of the large hall and the galleries were crowded with a very respectable an orderly assembly, consisting of about an equal division of the members of both sexes. The pro portion of young persons, male and female, was rather con.iderable. Admission was procured by tickets, for which adults were charged is.; and children under twelve years of age' 9d.; and in return they received refresh ments, in the shape of _cake, buns, oranges, &c., besides being allowed to participate in the proceedings. In ad dition to the principal leaders of the " Saints' in London and the - provinces, and in Scotland and Ireland. there were also present several brethren from America,France, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, and Sweden, who hap pened to have come to the metropolis to visit the Exhi bition. There could not, altogether, have been less than 1,100 people in the hall, and we believe that nearly twice that number were refused tickets, in consequence of there not being sufficient room to accommodate them. As soon as the congregation had settled down in their places, and perfect order prevailed, the first procession was ushered into the hall by the marshal of the day. It consisted of twelve presidents of branches in plain attire, each carrying a long wooden staff; twenty-four young ladies dressed in white muslin visites, and having their hair ornamented with Wee ribbons, and twenty four young men with blue scarfs. The precession hav ing marched once round the assembly, the presidents took their places for the proper maintenance of order, and the young ladies and gentlemen seated them selves to the chairman's left, preparatory to waiting upon the assembly. Next came the second procession, which seemed to attract much more attention than the first, and was composed as follows:—the " twelve apostles," or fathers in Israel," all aged and grey headed men, each with a staff ; twelve young men wearing large blue scarfs, and each carrying a Bible in the right hand, and a Book of Mormon in the left ; twelve young ladies, taller and better looking than the former, dressed in white muslin, wearing blue scarfs, and upon their heads wreaths of roses, and each carrying a bouquet of flowers. The assembly arose and saluted the procession. It then walked once round the ball, and previous to being seated at the chairman's right sang the following song, " The Mountain Standard," with no lack of vocal power nor of effect:— CHORUS. For we're the true born sons of Zion, Who with us that can compare. We're of the root and branch of joseph, The bright and glorious morning star. Lo the Gentile chain is broken; Freedom's banner waves on high, List ye nations! by this token, Know that your Redeemer's nigh. For we're the true born sons, &c. See on yonder distant mountain, Zion's standard wide unfurled, Far above Missouri's fountain, Lot it waves for all the world. For we're the true born sons, &e. Freedom, peace, and full salvation, Are the blessings guaranteed; Liberty to every nation, Every tongue and every creed. For we're the true born sons, &c. Come, ye Christian, sect, and Pagan, Pope, and Protestant, and priest, Worshippers of God or Dagon, Come yo to fair freedom's feast. Fur we're the true born sons, &c. Come, ye sons of doubt and wonder, Indian, Moslem, Greek, or Jew, All your shackles burst asunder, Freedom's banner waves for you. For we're the trus born sons, &c. Cease to butcher one another, Join the covenant of peace, Be to nil a friend, a brother, This will bring the world release. For we're the true born sons, &a Lo I our King ! the great Messiah, Prince of Peace, shall come to reign ; Sound again ye heavenly choir, Peace on earth, good will to men. For we're the true born sons, &c. After this the choir in the gallery struck up another song—" Ob! say what is truth ?"—and, on its conclu sion, Elder Thomas Squires, the chaplain, read the 6th chapter of Nephi, in the Book of Mormon, and the 10th chapter of St. John, in the New Testament. He then offered up a fervid and eloquent prayer, and the whole assembly afterwards joined in a by mn—" Glorious things are sung of Zion." Elder Coox, one of " the fathers," next advanced upon the platform, and delivered an address illustrative of the faith and obedience of Latter-day Saints, and expressive of their loyalty and determination to up hold the government of Queen Victoria. He said it was with the most ardent emotions of love and esteem that he rose on behalf of his brethren, who were aged sires or fathers of Israel, to congratulate the presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in this kingdom, and the brethren in the apostleship and ministry on' their assembling together on that happy occasion, which would hereafter be remembered as one of - surpassing interest to them as a people whose rising greatness had began to dawn upon the world, whose meteoric appearance above the moral horizon was re garded by the various classes of observers with mingled feelings of wonder, admiration, - and fear, and though there were thousands who would not turn their faces to the quarter from whence the light came, its influences would nevertheless be universal, and its rays would dispel: the gross darkness which covered the minds of the people. They felt gratefully conscious of the protection afforded them by the just and tolerant laws of the constitution under which it was their happiness to find shelter, and they gladly took that opportunity of declaring their loyal and undivided attachment to the person and government of Queen Victoria, the beloved Sovereign of these realms. As it was the teaching of Christ that they should always re spect the laws of the country wherein their lot was cast, they would ever be found ready to defend the lawfully constituted authorities of any state; and should the time ever arrive when the peace of this country was menaced by foreign aggression or the outburst of revo lutionary faction, their loyalty as a people would prove an additional safeguard to the throne, the constitution, and laws of the kingdom. Their prospects on every hand were most cheering, even in that country where the Latter-day Saints weft:, cruelly and relentlessly perse cuted, where unrestrained mobs could assemble with im punity in broad , day and shed the blood of the prophet Joseph and the patriarch Hiram, and afterwards con summate their guilt by forcibly ejecting from their homes, in the midst of severe winter, 11,000 unoffend ing, unresisting citizens, whose only crime was that they wore Latter-day Saints—even in that coun try the hand of persecution has been stayed, and the Federal Government had deemed it just to confer hoeours on the man whom they had dishonoured as the leader of a people whom they bad previously &f -leeted to despise. Their prospects in this country were also very gratifying, for though but a few years ago, when three elders came first from America to preach the everlasting Gospel, they were not known as a people, yet now the Lord had added to their body tens of thousands; and, therefore, with bounding hearts they might ex claim, " The Lord is with us—the God of Jacob is our refuge." The secret of the unparalleled success which had attended the labours of the apostles and the other elders of the church, though opposed by every form of priesteraft, assisted by the madness of ignorance and superstition, lay in that unparalleled union of feeling and readiness to obey those placed over them in the Lord which 'had at all times characterised the saints. While othet communities had been split up into fragments by interest dissensions and sectarian strife, their church presented a mighty phalanx of noble spirits, impregnable to all the assaults of earth and hell, and he predicted they would one day become a mighty people, whose in fluence should be felt and faith propagated through all nations of the earth. The chorus and procession then joined is a song to " the Rising Glory of Zion," after which Mr. JOHN HYDE, jun., delivered an address on be half of the young men, illustrative of the rise and pro gress of the church in America, in the British Isles, and in Landon and vicinity. With reference to America, he said the dark ignorance and superstitions which pre vailed in the world, as well as the divisions among the people, foStered by debate and perpetuated by new sects, Proclaimed that the spirit which baptized unto one body had fled; that the time had come for the commence ment of the seventh dispensation of justice and mercy to man, and it therefore pleased the Lord, on the night of the 21st of September, 1823, to send an angel to Mr. Joseph Smith, jun., native of Sharon, Windsor , c o u n ty Ver mont, to te ll him his sins were forgiven, and that he was the chosen of God to establish his church, and usher in the day of preparation for the millennium of Jesus Christ. The angel revealed many things, the origin of the American Indians, and the existence and locality of certain plates, from which the Book of Mormon was afterwards translated, and the purposes of God in reference to them. After con tinued revelations for four years, on the 22d of Septem ber, 1827, the angel delivered the records into his hands. Mr. Smith, by the power of God, translated some of the inscriptions on the plates, and an edition of such trans lation was published in 1830, on the 6th of April in that year, " The Church" was organised in the town of Manchester, Ontario county, New York, the month of December following. The speaker then went on to re late how the Lord, by revelation, directed them to the western borders of the Missouri, as the place where the Now Jerusalem was to be built; how they directed their steps thither, and met for the first time in conference in Jackson county, on the 4th of August, 1831; how the inhabitants rose en masse, drove them from their chosen city, killing many and whipping others; burning their houses, destroying their crops, throwing their furniture piecemeal into the streets, and compelling great numbers to perish from starvation and exposure; how the heavens opened and angels wept to see the atrocity of man, whilst a meteoric shower of shooting stars struc k terror into the hearts of their persecutors, but infus ed hopes into the bosom of the saints) how they subseq uently settled in Clay county, and were again expell ed and obliged to procure a refuge in Hancock county , Illinois, their way thither being marked by graves filled with their dead, or to be traced by blood from their suffering enfeebled, end emaciated fram es . Th e Missourians. instead of repenting these deeds of rapine, outrage, and murder, rejoiced in them, and thousands of soldiers, under 3, General Clark, marched by the order of Governor Boggs to plunder their property and drive them out once more. The Legislature was appealed to in vain, for instead of heeding the cry of 15,000 suffering, unoffsnding, and doeply injured citizans, it sanctioned the act, and voted 200,000 dollars to defray the expenses utending the attempted extermination and accomplished banishment of the saints. " The Church" arrived in Hancock county early in 1838. Six years from that date the city of Nauvoo was erected, and her temple a as regarded as the masterpiece of architecture in the United States. In 1844, so rapidly had the church progressed that there were 30,000 inhabitants of Nauvoo, and the city militia, commanded and organized by the United States law, numbered 200 young men, but scarcely had they settled dawn in quiet industry to cultivate the soil and dispense a knowledge of the blessings they enjoyed, when the Missourians and Illonians recommenced their persecu tions, and again drove them from Nauvoo, while the crops of their planting were pillaged, ravaged, and de stroyed. But why expatiate on their sufferings, when there were those present who were among the many that had to leave Nauvoo? In the year 1847, 140 left the Bluffs as pioneers, having arrived there from Nauvoo; they were led by God to the Valley of the Great Salt Lake, and the main body of the saints entered it in the same year—and there they would remain at rest, like the ocean rock, amidst the rush and raging of the watery billows around. The speaker then adverted to the progress of " the Church" in England, observing that in 1837, one year before the saints reached Nauvoo, Elders K.C. Kimball and Orson Hyde, together with several others, landed at Liverpool friendless and destitute. They se parated ;and went forth preaching into the towns on either side. Preston first heard and obeyed the princi ples of truth. In eight months seven hundred members met in conference in that town, rejoicing in the power and privilege of the Gospel. In a very short time several counties, among which were Yorkshire, Cheshire, Lancashire, Stafford, Gloucester, Worcester and Hereford had heard and received the servants of God. Thus the church increased; so that in 1840, after three years labour, the general conference reported 3,626 members, end 383 in the priesthood, making in all 4,019 saints. But such aiumphant success was not con fined to Freeland; Scotland ere eyed a portion, and Ire land was elso made to rejoice, and Wales teeti6ed by her thousands how the church had progressed in that pro vince. In Scotlend the blood-cemented pyramid of bigotry and superstition had been triumphantly attacked, .although sustained by the proves bid' wariness of the Scotch. The conference established in Edinburgh, notwithstanding that hundreds had re moved and hundreds more emigrated, still represented more than 1,500 members. Glasgow was also pro claimed, and over 2,063 members were now revelling in the enjoyment of the spirit of truth. In 1851 more than 3,530 had obeyed the mandates of Heaven, and thousands had besides emigrated to the gathering place of the saints. As to Ireland, it was not until 1850 that Dublin had heard the principles of truth ; he was, however, glad to say that a small branch had been es tablished in that city. In Wales their success was still more great and glorious. Jo 1851 the number of saints in the principality was 4,843, including officers. The sta tistics of January last shoe ei there were, altogether, in the United Kingdom, 42 conferences, 602 branches, 22 seventies, 12 high priests, 1,761 elders, 1,590 priests, 1,226 teachers, 682 deacons, and 25,454 members, making a total of 30,747 saints. During the last 14 years more than 50.000 had been baptized in England, of which nearly 17,000 had emigrated from her shores to Zion. He next gave a brief sketch of the progress of the work in London. In February, 1841, the London con ference was organized, consisting of three branches— London, Woolwich, and Bedford, and composed of about 80 members, The number of members in 1842 had in creased to 400 or 500, and the number of breeches had more than trebled. During the last five years 2,981 persons had yielded in obedience to the Gospel. In the present year the conference fell to the presidential charge of the present chairman, Elder Eli B. Kelsey, whose knowledge had been tested, and, whose actions spoke well for his wisdom and discretion. After an earnest appeal that he might be enabled to guide them aright in the blessed path before them, he concluded by ex pressing a hope that this might be a new era in the conference, and that the epoch to come might be one of success, happiness, knowledge, and light. The assembly then joined in a song written for the occasion, entitled " The Mountain Dell." One of the young ladies, dressed in white—perhaps the most handsome and ladylike of the number—then took her place on the platform, and delivered, in a clear and well modulated voice, an address on behalf of the young ladies, relative to the important part sustained by their sex in assisting to elevate the morals and improve the spiritual condition of the human family by the spread of the Gospel, and the upbuilding of the kingdom of God, &c. Miss Lonas JOHNSTONE, of Birmingham, a young vocalist of considerable merit, who presided at the piano throughout the day, next favoured the company with the following song, written by the same author, and also de signed for this festival:— I'M A SAINT, I'M A SAINT I _ I'm a saint, Pm a saint, on the rough world wide, The earth is my home, and my God is my guide! Up, up with the truth, let its puwer bend the knee, I am sent, I am sent, and salvation is free. I fear not old priestcraft, its dogmas can't awe, I've a chart for to steer by, that tells me the law, And ne'er as a coward to falsehood I'll kneel While Mormon tells truth, or God's prophets reveal! Up, up with the truth, lit its power bend the knee ; I am sent 1 I am sent ! dying Bab'lon to thee, I am sent ! I am sent ! take this warning and flee. The arm of the tyrant fell terror may spread, Yet, tho' they oppose us, their strongholds we'll tread, What to us i, the scorn of the selfish and vain, We have borne it before, and we'll bear it again. The fire gleaming bolts of oppression may fall, And kill off the body, death can't us appal ! With heaven above us, and all hell mad below ! Thro' the wide fields of error, right onward we'll go. Como o n, my brave comrades, now's the time you should speak, The storm-fiend is roused from his long dreamy sleep. Our watchword for safety in Zion shall be, 1 am sent 1 I am sent I dying Bab'lon to thee, I am sent ! 1 am sent ! take this warning and flee. ,The people having regaled themselves with refresh ments, were again called to order, whereupon The PRESIDENT, in a brief address, welcomed to London " the twelve," the presidents of the conferences and visitors generally. Elder FRANKLIN D. RICHARDS, president of the church in the British Isles, replied. Elder Jour; TAYLOR, of the French mission, next ad dressed the meeting. He had travelled over the greater portion of the world, and had contemplated man in all his different positions, in adversity and prosperity, in happiness and misery, with all his hopes, errors, joys, propensities, and passions, and he confessed he never saw a people for whom he had such ardent love, affec tion, end regard, us the saints of the Most High. Though they had been persecuted and driven from one spot to another in America until at last people began to say that Mormonism was destroyed, broken up, and scattered to the four winds of heaven, and had uttered its last dying groan, yet they had now had the territory of Deserate, had a legislature and governor of their own, and ae ra going on prosperously, and what was more, they had been recognized as an independent state by the Congress of the United States. The reason that their people were so orderly and united was that they first taught them correct principles, and then allowed them to govern themselves. A great deal had been said about the prophet Joseph Smith. Now, he had known him in public and private, frequently tra velled with him, and was even present at his death,when he was ruthlessly murdered in the gaol of Carthage; and all who said he was net an intelligent, virtuous, and good man, either did not tell or know the truth. After some further observations on the purity of their religion, and its superiority over that of any other sect in the world, combining as it did all that was good in each, while it discarded all that was bad, he closed his address by an exhortation that blessings might be showered on the whole assembly. Hyms, and songs, and addresses from Lorenzo Snow, President of the Italian Mission, and Erastus Snow, of the Danish Mission, followed, and the meeting did not separate until a rather late hour. The utmost cordiality and good feeling prevailed among the large assembly until it was dismissed by the chaplain. PICTURES OF THE CRYSTAL PALACB.--Yesterday we inspected some very interesting drawings of this great edifice at No. 114, New Bond-street, the establishment of the Messrs. Dickinson. They are no other than the sketches produced by that artist in obedience to the command of her Majesty, and represent respectively the eastern nave, the transept, and the. western nave, the latter including the throne, and the Court pageantry surrounding on the day of inauguration. In colouring, the three pictures are really exquisite, and will afford any one who has not already visited the Exhibition an i d e a of the excellence of the theor y suggested by Mr. Owen Jones, the blue and yellow colour ing of the edifice itself being lit up by the scarlet hangings of the different compartments, the azure of the skies visible through the glass, and the green of the beautiful elm trees in the interior. From the circumstance of only half of the structure being portrayed at once, a rather faint notion 15 afforded of the extraordinary perspective of the b u ildi ng perspective that would task the powers of the most practiseda artist to giveit anything like an adequate representation. By the kind permission of the Queen these drawings, which are the personal property of her Majesty, will remain on view a few days longer at the establishment above men tioned, and we are gratified to find that facsimile engravings from the sketches of Mr. Nash, will vary shortly be pub lished by the Messrs. Dickinson. THE JEWELS, SEC., AT THE CRYSTAL PALACL—It is in some degree painful to watch the eager, not to say covetous, gaze of the most beautiful women upon the dia monds at the Exhibition, and no less so to know that we cannot scramble these glittering baubles amongst them. We have nowhere witnessed this infatuation to a greater extent, and the police, under whose charge the caskets are placed, must form a strange notion of the mania, thus strongly does this In no other department of the vast treasuresci e. 7 this feeling manifest itself, excepting, perhaps, in that su devoted_ to the bonnets and head-dresses. Here, however irtaansc assu m e a more healthy tone. Admiration is allowed utterance free vent. In the former, desire was mute anitiiow.e. hopeless,i age that the latter a valve had been provided by: the any one portion of this coquettish head gear could be ob tained at Vyse's, on Ludgate-hill. " CAPTAIN ~ MILMAN'S NEW N O VEL, ARTHUR CONwAr ; or, Scenes in the Tropics," i n 3 vols., is pub lished this day by Messrs. Colburn. and C 2. The Hon. M rs . 0., and may be tat by 0 Ralph" The all the libraries. Also just published: Norton's new novel, " Stuart of,Duthn the author 3.f Rutherford, a Nautical Rom ance, , , a Tale of the Puritans, by the Petrel." 4. Caleb author of " MargaretF ilieidtaland," 1 vol. The following new The English in America, by the works are jast ready: 2 D vols , 2. Scenes from Scripture, 1 vol. 3. Clare Abbey, by the author of "Sam Sack, " L . by the Rev. G. Croy, L . ~ . " author of " The Discipline of Life. 4. The Lady and the Priest, by Mrs. Maberley. SOUTHAMPTON, JUNE 2.—The Great Western Royal Mail Company's steam-ship, Capt a i n B rown, with the West India mails, left this afternoon. She took out by passengers, specie to the mount of 3,0004, and a full miacellaiNOM M.P. COURT CIRCULAR. Her Majesty and his Royal Highness Prince Albert with the Princess Royal, a7ccmpanied by her Royal Highness the Dacheas of Saxe Coburg Gotha, and his Royal Highness the Duke Ernest of Wurtemberg, con tinued their inspection of the Works of Industry of all Nations, at the Exhibition yesterday morning. In at tendance on the august party were, the Hon. Mary Sey mour, Baroness de Wangeuheim, General Wemyss, and Col. Bouverie. The Queen arrived at half-past nine o'clock at the Exhibition, and remained till five minutes before eleven o'clock. The Prince of Wales and Prince Alfred, attended by Mr. Birch, also visited the Exhibi tion yesterday afternoon. The Queen held a Court at three o'clock in the after noon. Baron do Beust, Saxon Minister, had an audience of her Majesty to present his letters of recall from his Sovereign. His Excellency was introduced by Viscount Palmerston, G.C.8.. the Queen's principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, and conducted by Colonel the Hon. Sir Edward Cust, K.C.H., her Majesty's Muter of the Ceremonies. Rear-Admiral Sir Edmund Lyons had an audience of the Queen, to take leave on his departure for Stockholm. as her Majesty's Envoy Extraordi nar y at the Court of Sweden. Sir Edm un d was presented by Viscount Pal merston. The Queen was attended by Lord Dufferin, Lord in Waiting, and Sir Frederick Stovin, Groom in Waiting. His Royal Highness the Duke of Saxe Coburg Gotha, attended by M. B. de Treskow, went to Hampton Court yesterday morning, and inspected the Royal stud. The Queen and Prince Albert, with the Prince of Wales, Prince Alfred, and Prince Arthur, the Princess Royal, and the Princesses Alice, Helena, and Louisa, ac companied by the Duke and Duchess of Saxe Coburg Gotha, and Duke Ernest of Wurtemberg, and attended by the Royal suite, left Buckingham Palace at twelve minutes before four o'clock yesterday afternoon, for Windsor Castle. :Her Majesty, Prince Albert, and the august circle were conducted to their carriages by the Master of the Horse, the Lord Chamberlain, the Marquis of Aber. corn, the Vice-Chamberlain, Viscount Clifden, and Colonel Anson. Ile Majesty, Prince Albert, and the Royal with their illustrious visitors, left the Palace in seven proceeded to the Paddington stanon o the carriages, escorted by a detachment. of L f reatancers, G and Western Railway, where a special train was in readi ness to convey the august party to Windsor. WINDSOR, JUNE 2. Her Majesty and Prince Albert, accompanied by the Duke and Duchess of Saxe Coburg Gotha and Duke Ernest of Wurtemberg, with the Prince of Wales, Prin cess Royal, Pri nce Alf re d . t h e P r i ncesses Alice, Helena, and Louisa, and Princ© Arthur, and attended by the Viscountess Jocelyn, Lady Caroline Barrington, Hon. Matida Paget, lion. Mary Seymour, Lord Dufferin, Lieutenant-Colonel Bon. C. B. Phipps, Colonel Hon. Charles Grey, Sir Frederick Stovin, General Wemyss, I Colonel Bouverie, and Mr. Birch, and the Baroness de Wargenheim and M. B. do Treekow in attendance on the Duke and Duchess of Saxe Cobourg Goths, arrived at the station of the Great Weatern Railway this after. noon. A guard of honour of the Grenadier Guards was on duty at tee station. The Queen and Prince Albert and the august party proceeded to the Castle in seven carriages, where they arrived at a quit ter before five o'clock, and were re ceived by the Master of the Household. His Royal Hignness Prince Henry of the Netherlands, attended by the Chevalier van Rappard, the Chevalier de Casembroet, and Captain May, arrived at the Castle at a quarter before six o'clock, on a visit to the Queen and Prince Ahem _ Her Majesty and Prince Albert walked out in the Homo Park aster their arrival from town; and the Royal Family were also out iu the grounds adjacent to the Castle. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge, attended by his Equerry in Waiting, is expected to arrive at the Castle, on a visit to her Majesty and the Prince. The Duke and Duchess of Norfolk and Lady Adeliza Fitz elan Howard, the Duke of Buccleuch, the Duchess of Sutherland and Lady Constance Leveson Gower, the Duke of Devonshire, the Duke of Newcastle. the Mar quis and Marchioness of Westminster, and Lady Octet via Grosvenor, the Marquis of Breadalbane, the Marquis of Abercorn, the Right Hon. Sir George and Lady Grey, and the Earl and Countess of Bessborough, are also ex pected to arrive on a visit. The Queen entertained her guests at dinner in the Waterloo Chamber, this evening. The Royal circle and. invitations comprised his Royal Highness Prince Henry of the Netherlands, their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Saxe Coburg Gotha, his Royal Highness the Duke Ernest of Wurtem berg, the Duchess of Suther land and Lady C. L. Gower, the Duke and Duchess of Norfolk and Lady A. F. Howard, the Duke of Buccletich, the Duke of Devonshire, the Duke of Newcastle, the Baroness de Wangenheim, the Marquis and Marchioness of Westminster, and Lady 0. Grosvenor, the Marquis of Breadalbane, the Marquis of Abercorn, the Earl and Countess of Bessborough, the Right Hon. Sir George and Lady Grey, the Chevalier de Casembroot, the Che valier van Rappard, Captain May, M. B. de Treskow, and the Equerry of the Duke of Cambridge. The band of the Grenadier Guards attended and per formed in the Castle during dinner. General Wemyss has relieved Colonel the Hon. Charles Grey in his duties as Equerry in Waiting to the Queen. Colonel Bouverie has released Lieutenant , Cfilonel F. H. Seymour in his duties as Equerry in Waiting to his Royal Highness the Prince Albert. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent left town at ten o'clock yesterday morning, for her residence, Frog more, near Windsor. The Royal Duchess was attended by the Lady Fanny Howard, the Baroness de Speth, and Sur George Couper. His Serene Highness the Prince of Leiningen, left Clarence House in the afternoon, fer Frogmore. A deputation from the Commission of Sewers had an interview with Sir George Grey yesterday, at the Home office. The deputation consisted of Mr. Peto, M.P., Sir H. De la Beche, Captain Dawson, Sir J. Burgoyne, Viscount Ebrington, M.P., Mr. Hardwicke, Mr. Stephen son, M.P., Mr. Bendel, Mr. Lawes, and Mr. Woolryob, secretary to the Commission. Mr. John Wilson Patten, M.P., and Mr. Gregory, attending as a deputaticn from Preston, had an interview yesterday with the General Board of Health, at their office, Whitehall. A deputation from the directors of the London Iris sicmary Society had an interview yesterday with Lord John Russell, at his official residence in Downing -street. The deputation consisted of Sir Edward Buxton, Bart. M.P., Mr. Peto, M.P., Mr. Hindley, M.P., M r. Harris,, Mr. Heald, M.P., Mr. Evans, M.P., Mr. Kershaw, Mr. Piper, and the Rev. Dr. Tid man an d the R ev. J. J. Freeman, secretaries to the soeit-ty. Mr. John O'Brien, Mr. Goold, and Mr. John O'Connell had an interview with the Right Hon. H. Labouchere yesterday, at the Board of Trade. Dispatches were received yesterday at the Colonial (Alm from the Governor of the Canadas, and the Go vernors of the other Ncrih American colonies. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATTERSALL'S.--YxrrEn uAy. QUEEN'S VASE (ASCOT). 4 t 3 1 agst Lord Waterford's Monica colt—taken 5 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Little Jack ASCOT STAKES. 9 to 2 agst Sir J. Hawley's Vatican—taken as too Cheerful—taken at tocall 10 to 1 agst Mr. Stephen s on ' s Ninus for rem 7 to 1 apt Mr. C. Formby's Ballot Girl 8 to 1 agst Mr. Batson 's Abderhaman to to 1 agst r. t Gratwicke'sovent w T a b r. ekbetting on EMPEROR'S PLATE (ASCOT). to 4 sgst Mr. H. Combe's Trouncer 5 to 2 agst Mr. Maugan's Russborough--taken At one time 3 to 1 was currently offered agat Russ borough, but on its transpiring that he was on his way to Ascot, he found supporters at 5 to 2. THE NEW STAKES. 7 to 4 agst Lord Eglinton'a Brother to Elthiron 3 to 1 agst Col. Peel's Queen Ann colt • 4to 1 agst Mr. J. Clark's Eleot The above were the nominal :quotations; Mai or nothing was dono. THREE YRS OLD TRIENNIAL. 5 to 4 agst Lord John Scott's Misserima 15 to 1 ast Mr. BT . LEGER. g Gratwicke's Exeter—taken taloa 1,000 to 70 agst Mr. 11. Hill's Mountain Deer 16 to 1 agst Mr. J. C D IL R k B 's Y. Eleot 2 0 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Brother to Elthiron—. taken and afterwards offered 25 to 1 a gs t M r . H arr i son ' s ging of Trumps—taken 33 to 1 agst Colonel Peel's Queen Ann colt—taken 40 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Houlakin—t freely 40 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Homebrevied—. taken freel 40 to 1 agst Mr. Grat y wicke's Maidstone—taken and afterwards offered ASCOT HEATH RACES. The following additional entries have been forwarded to FIRST DAY. The Trial Stakee—Russborough, 4 yrs (71bs extra). SECOND DAY. The Queen'. Plate;--Kissaway, 5 yrs-I(iag Charm. in, 3 yrs. THIRD DAY. Stand Plate—Vasa, 5 yrs. 701. Plate—Laundrymaid. w e are authorised to state that Buckhound will not run for the Royal Hunt Cup. The Ban should have been included in the lot Sir J. Hawley will have at Ascot. The races commence this day at half-past one. The Corporation of the City of London , with their accusto med munificence, i n t en d, we understand, to give all the clerks at the M ans i on-house an d the Guildhall, and also all the officers in their service, an opportunity of viewing the interior of the Crystal Palace and the g or g eous display of foreign and English manu f ac t u res. For this purpose, we believe, they have resc l ve d to give them all a holiday, and topresent each of their clerks with a guinea in lieu of a ticket of admission; but as the public business would be interfered with by giving them all leave of absence on the same day, it has been arranged that each one shall take hit turn, so that not more than three or four may be absent at one time. THE NEW ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH COMPANIES...-. r y t ric i n T e t l h e e g r c a h p a h i r c — o I n tl a n p y re , a o m f Yesterday—the Hoand.omL.ECloecr of the United Kin Magneto-Electric Telegraph Company, and of the Rampant and American Printing Telegraph Company (the objection.. able clauses opposed by the railway companies in the latter instance being withdrawn) were declared proved. The . Bills of the Submarine Electric Telegraph Company be tween England and Franca and England and Ireland wars withdrawn,