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Vtirb SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS FROM TAR EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAT. GLOBE.—The extent to which Sir Robert Peel intends to propose an addition to the Maynooth grant has not yet been announced. It seems to be admitted, on all hands, that the increase will be considerale. The present amount voted an nually by Parliament, and which has continued the same for the last 50 years, is 8,0001. If the statements which make the addition to that vote 20,0001.—thus raising the sum to 28,0001. —be correct, the increased power which will be thus given to the Roman Catholics, of propagating their doctrines, will be considerably increased. It is also reported that the buildings of the College are to be placed under the charge of the Board of Public Works, and are to be repaired and kept up at the public charge. From what fell from Sir Robert Peel on this subject in the House of Commons, it is under stood that no interference with, or insp ec ti on o f , the internal management of the seminary, is to be required on the part of Government. All is to be left, as it now is, under the control and direction of the Roman Catholic hierarchy. The grant, thus largely increased, is to be fettered with no condition. What is freely given is to be as freely received. However willing Sir Robert Peel may be to throw his former pledges and promises overboard, upon the plea that State necessity calls for the sacrifice at his hands, we yet doubt whether he has not, on this occasion, reckoned without his host. That his conveniently-pliable majority in the House of Commons would do his bidding in this, or any other deviation from, or contradic tion of, their former sayings or doings, their sub serviency leaves no room for doubt. But in this case there are difficulties out of doors. Principles of opposi tion, from different points of the political and religious hemisphere, are preparing to unite, as in one common centre, against this proposed application of the national re venue to give extension and effect to Popish doctrines. A combined opposition to the scheme will thus be raised, more formidable than has been provoked by any previous measure which the present Ministry has ventured to pro pound. This scheme forms no part of what is termed " justice to Ireland." A perfect equality in all civil privileges with their Protestant fellow-countrymen is the indefeasible right of the Roman Catholics of Ireland. Per fect confidence should be reposed in their loyalty by the Go vernment, and strict impartiality in the distribution of official patronage should be exhibited toward them by the Ad ministration. The secular education of the children of their poor should be aided by the State, without interference with religious teaching, which should be left exclusively to their own clergy. Every means within the power of the Legislature and the functions of Government, should be employed to elevate the condition, and thus inspire the confidence, of the people. The Roman Catholics of Ire land have a right to these, and to all other civil privileges and immunities. But a broad line of distinction exists be tween civil rights and State endowments. This distinction will be insisted upon in the forthcoming controversy ; and we cannot see how Sir Robert Peel will be able to meet the objections, and turn aside the battle which will be fought upon its ground. The education of the young men who are edu cated at the College of Maynooth is emphatically and exclu sively religious. They are there trained for the priesthood o f the Roman Catholic Church. Its doctrines are there instilled into their minds ; the " bodily worship" enjoined by the Romish ritual is there daily and hourly practised. They thus become familiarised by habit with its ceremonies and observances. At the appointed time they come forth, and receive power and authority from the Bishop to preach, teach, and enjoin the same things upon others. In proposing to call upon the Protestant people of England to pay for educating the Roman Catholic priests of Ireland, we think Sir Robert Peel has ventured on an expe riment which will fail. This proposal is neither more nor less than to endow—out of the taxation of the country, principally paid by English Protestants—a Propaganda Col lege for the growth and spread of doctrines which they believe to be impregnated with errors of awful tendency. Transubstantian, papal infallibility, the worship of the Virgin and the saints, the use of images, penance, purgatory, priestly absolution, baptismal regeneration, celibacy, monkery, and all the other dogmas against which the Reformers pro tested, many of them even to martyrdom, are, in the excess of Sir Robert Peel's new-born love for Popery, to be cultivatd and cherished by means of a large yearly Parliamentary grant to Maynooth. Will the Protestant spirit which yet lives and breathes in the Protestant Establishment of the country, and among the numerous and enlightened bodies of dissidents from her communion, consent to this? We think it will not. The Dissenters from the Established Church will also urge an objection, peculiar to themselves, against this proposed formidably large endowment to Maynooth. Ob jecting, as they do, to all State endowments of religion, they will oppose this extension of the principle to a Church to whose doctrines and ceremonies they, as Protestants, espe cially object. The Wesleyans have steadily resisted the extension of civil privileges to Roman Catholics, lest they should employ those acquired powers to the in• jury of Protestants. This powerful and firmly-com pacted body are, we understand, preparing to meet the scheme, on its announcement, with the deter mined and effective opposition which their well-adapted connexional machinery can readily and expeditiously combinB and enforce. A considerable and influential party in the Church of England will join in this demonstration. The stern and jealous Protestantism of Scotland will take the alarm. An apprehension, that Popery will derive increased power from enlarged means supplied b} ;the State, will stimu late all classes of Protestants to resist the Government scheme, while a perception that for questionable purposes, such as this, the income-tax is to be retained, will increase the unpopularity of the Ministry, and will constitute a for midable item in the account which it will have to settle with the country when the day of reckoning comes. STANDARD.—The long debate upon the conduct of the Governor of New Zealand last night was subject to this somewhat important objection, that nobody knew distinctly what the conduct of the Governor has been ; still less was any one in possession of the reasons for his mea sures, as far as these measures could be guessed at. Mr. C. Buller, Mr. Aglionby, &c., however, thought that a distinct and sure knowledge of the facts is not necessary to the discussion of a system of Govern. meat, and so they occupied the attention of the House. Now here let us point to a distinction, the neglect of which may obscure the absurdity of this mode of proceeding. It is true that when any important event has occurred, as the loss of a colony, or even a formidable in surrection in a colony, or the loss of a ship of war, or the like, the Parliament or the Executive, as the case may be, is entitled to call for an explanation ; and if the explanation is not at hand, to proceed to judgment, without delay. And why is this ? Because in such cases as are supposed, there is a fait accompli of sufficient magnitude to interest the country, and a fact which is certain and irrevocable, constituting what our law calls a corpus de licti. But the case is very different where the alleged offence or injury is cumulative, and to be deduced from a long series of facts, in themselves unimportant, innocent, or indifferent. To put a man upon trial, or to call for judgment upon him, without first clearly establishing the whole chain of facts upon which you found your charge, is plainly—first, to gratuitously make a crime that may have no real existence, and then impute it. In the case of a man on the spot thus accused, there would be good ground for complain ing of injustice ; but the thing is perfectly monstrous when the man is at the antipodes. However, Captain Fitzroy found able and efficient defenders; and the waste of so much breath, and the loss of so much time, have been the worst effect of Messrs. Buller and Aglionby's proceedings. These gentlemen have lost nothing in any one's estimation for can dour and generosity—for a reason. FLANDERS MAIL. BRUSSELS, MARCH 10.—Yesterday the King gave an audi ence to Mr. Colombo, the Minister of Spain. His Majesty presided at aCoulicil of Ministers. A letter from Virton says that in the month of March there has not been more intense cold in the Ardennes than at present, and that the snow has never been more abundant. At nightfall all the wolves, in bands of five or six together, prowl about the habitations, and though no person has yet been attacked by them, every body linda it prudent to remain at home. The English steamer The Soho, from London, arrived in the river at Ternenze on the 7th, but being unable to pro ceed any farther on account of the ice, put back, and pro ceeded to Ostend. We learn that sixty-eight petitions for a change in the corn laws will be presented to the Chamber of Representatives to morrow. Some of them recommend the adoption of a system analogous to that which is now followed in France. Some of the petitioners wish that, if the discussion of the new law should be deferred to another session, the land-tax on arable land may be in the meantime remitted.—Brussels Papers, March 10. STATE OF TRADE.--The demand for yarn con tinues very good ; but the spinners being almost all under contract, require higher prices, which have had some tendency to limit the amount of actual business. In goods there is not quite so much doing as last week; but prices remain perfectly firm. ROCHDALE FLANNEL MARKET, MONDAY, MARCH 10.—The market to day has been much the same as that of last Monday. More buyers have attended ; but they have purchased very sparingly, at very low prices. The wool market has also been flat, and the demand very limited, yet the old prices are fully maintained.—Manchester Guardian. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. Mr. ALLIX moved that the Members for the borough of Aylesbury be added to the Committee on the Sparrows Herne Road Bill. Mr. GREENE hoped that the House would not consent to this motion, as it would be establishing a very bad precedent. Mr. ALLIX considered that as the road was to terminate in the town of Aylesbury, it was but fair that the opinions of the inhabitants should, through the medium of their representatives, be consulted in the matter. The motion was agreed to. MIDLAND RAILWAY EXTENSION. Sir W. HEATHCOTE b roug h t up t h e repor t on this Bill. Th e stand i ng orders had been compl i ed with. KENDAL RESERVOIR. Sir J. Y. BULLER brought up the report on this Bill. The standing orders had been complied with. STANDING ORDERS ON RAILWAYS. It was reported that in the London, Bedford, and Birmingham Railway the standing orders had been complied with ; as also with respect to the Trent Valley Railway, and the Norwich and Yarmouth Rail way. SHEFFIELD AND LINCOLNSHIRE RAILWAY. On the motion of Mr. JOHN PARKER this Bill was brought up and read a first time. GLOSSOP RAILWAY BILL. On the motion of Mr. J. PARKER this Bill was brought up and read a first time. NEWPORT AND PONTYPOOL RAILWAY. Mr. DARBY brought up the Bill for this rail way, and it was read a first time. LONDON ORPHAN ASYLUM. On the motion of Mr. TROTTER this Bill was read the first time. NEWARK AND SHEFFIELD RAILWAY. Colonel ROLLESTON brought up the Bill for this railway, and it was read the first time. INCREASE OF THE NAVY. Mr. J. PARKER presented a petition from the Sheffield Peace Society against any increase in the navy, and suggesting that it would be much better to settle national disputes by arbitration than arms. WINDOW-TAX. Sir G. GREY presented a petition from Devonport for the abolition of the window-tax. Lord ASHLEY presented several petitions against the sale of intoxicating liquors on the Sabbath. Mr. F. MACKENZIE presented a petition from the schoolmasters of Peebles, praying the House to take measures to alleviate their distressed condition. Colonel BERKELEY presented a petition from a solicitor residing at Cheltenham, against certain clauses in the Bastardy Bill. Mr. WAKLEY presented a petition from a sur geon residing in Great Russell-street, against the income-tax. Mr. CRIPPS presented a petition from the As sociated Justices' Clerks against that clause in the Clerks at Petty Sessions Bill, which prohibits them from coniucting prosecutions. _NOTICE OF MOTION. Dr. BOWRING gave notice that in Committee on the Bastardy Bill he would move that the justices of the peace should have power to issue an order of affi liation in cases where the mother of the child died before the order was applied for. RAILWAYS. Mr. G. BANKES presented a petition from the inhabitants of Chard, in the county of Somerset, com plaining that the decision of the Board of Trade, in respect to certain railways, was inconsistent with the interest of the petitioners. The HoN. AlEm BER also presented a petition from another place in Somersetshire, complaining that the Board of Trade had given preference to two lines of railway which were not so advantageous to the inte rests of the petitioners as others that might be adopted. PROPERTY-TAX—BENEVOLEN T SOCIETIES. On the motion that the order of the day be read, Mr. E. ELLICE, jun., said he wished to call the attention of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chan cellor of the Exchequer to a class of cases which ap parently ought not to come under the operation of the income-tax—he meant provident societies, whose income was under 1501. He knew of a society which had been established upwards of a century for granting pensions to widows and orphans. That society had been charged with the tax, although the income of the society was under 1501., which was derived from investments in land and loans. The managers of the society appealed to the Assistant-Commissioners, but they dismissed the ap peal on the ground that the property was not vested in Government securities. He (Mr. Ellice) had looked into the Act and there, certainly, he found a clause to the effect, that if the property was not so in vested it should not be exempt from the tax. In other cases the parties might have the drawback ; but in this case that could not be done, because the payments of the society were made in sums of from ss. to 51. He now asked the Chancellor of the Ex chequer whether it was contemplated by the Govern ment to exempt societies established for purely bene volent purposes ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the clause to which the lion. Gentleman referred was inserted for the purpose of exempting benevolent societies which were enrolled according to the Act of Parliament. But in cases where the societies were only voluntary, and their prcperty was invested in mortgages and such securities, it was. very difficult to provide an exemption. Ile had only received the Hon. Gentleman's notice about an hour before he came down to the House, and he immediately communicated with the department to which the notice referred, and he would take care that measures should be taken for affording relief, and it was only in consequence of the construction of the law that a remedy had not been already given. Mr. ELLICE said the reason he had not com municated with the Right Hon. Gentleman before was that he had only received the case within the last few days. Mr 4 ,T. DUNCOMBE wished to call the atten tion of the Right Honourable Gentleman to another case. It was known that the legacy duty department and the assessment to the income and property-tax were carried on under the same Commissioners, viz., the Stamps and Taxes' Commissioners. Now supposing a person left another an annuity of 1,0001. a year, and the person to whom the annuity was left was sixty-four years of age, according to the tables of the officers of the legacy department, that annuity, so granted, was worth 8,0301. The charge on that individual, not being a relation by blood, would be of course 10 per cent., amounting to 8301. To pay that he was allowed four years ' thereby reducing his income in round numbers to 8001. a year. Now any one would suppose when the assessment to the property and income-tax was made, that he would only have to pay 8001. a year ; such, however, was not the case, for he was assessed at one thousand pounds a year. Now that appeared to him to be a palpable injustice, and he trusted the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exche quer would give instructions to have that injustice re medied. He wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentle man another question. He understood that since the property-tax had been established, there had been at the office of the Commissioners of Stamps and Taxes, for the purpose of making assessments to the income-tax, a copy of the Bank of England Dividend Book. Now, it had always been supposed that was a secret record kept by the Bank of England only. [The Hon. Member was proceeding when he was called to order by the Speaker.] He wished to know whether the documents to which he had alluded were actually sent to the Stamp-office ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the documents were not sent to the Stamp-office. COLLIERY EXPLOSIONS. Mr. DUNCOMBE wished to ask a question of the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary for the Home Department, with reference to a petition pre sented the other evening from the miners of the county of Durham, praying for inquiry into the cause of the explosions unfortunately so frequent in the collieries of the north. There prevailed an opinion that the lives of those indi viduals were not properly cared for; and he wished, therefore, to know whether it was the intention of the Government to introduce a measure for the better securing of the lives of miners. Failing any such intention, he would ask whether there could be any objection to the appointment of a Committee to take the subject into consideration ? Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, that the subject had received the especial consideration of the Govern ment and after the recess, he should be prepared to lay on the table of the House the report of the in spectors of mines, together with the objections of the coal owners to the rules which they proposed, and he thought that some measure might then be adopted of a satisfactory nature. SMOKE PROHIBITION BILL. Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition from the Board of Commerce in Glasgow, from the Guild of that city, and from several other bodies in that city ; from a place in the county of Somerset; another from several individuals in London and Westminster; and another, signed by 5,600 inhabitants of Glas gow, in favour l of this Bill. He had also to say that petitions would be presented from Manchester and Leeds in favour of the Bill. The Hon. Gentleman said that in consequence of the great mass of business which was to be brought on to-night, he should merely move the second reading pro forma, and take the discussion on some future evening. Indeed he thought that from the great exertion which the members of the Govern ment had to undergo, and especially from the grievous imposition on the Speaker, Wednesday ought to be a day of rest. For these reasons be should move that the Bill be read a second time this evening, and that the discussion should be postponed till this day week. He trusted that no opposition would be offered to this mode of proceeding, as all would have an opportunity of expressing their opinions when the discussion was taken. He then moved that the Bill be read a second time. Mr. HAWES said he would not offer any oppo sition to the Bill until he had heard the opinion of the Noble Lord at the head of the Woods and Forests ; but he thought it would be better to post pone the second reading for the present. Lord LINCOLN thought it would be much more for the convenience of the House if the Honourable Member would consent to postpone the second read ing until after the holidays.—(Hear, hear.) Ile had already promised that he would examine into the sub ject, and consult scientific men as to the best course to be adopted. Within the last two days he had re ceived some information on the subject. One reason why he was anxious to have the Bill postponed for a short time was that measures of a sanatory character, of much greater importance, and on a far larger scale, were under the consideration of the Government; and he thought the decision of the House, in refer ence to tile present Bill, world be materially influ enced by those measures.—(Hear, hear.) Be would therefore advise the lion. Gentleman to postpone the Bill until about a fortnight after Easter. Mr. MUNTZ hoped the Hon. Gentleman would take the advice of the Noble Lord, and in the mean time consider how far it would be possible for him to alter the Bill as to the appointment of inspect o r s ; if he did not, he should feel it his duty to resist the measure. lle could not approve of appointing in spectors to disc over t h e nu i sance. Only imagine a nuisance so small as to require inspectors to find it out.—(Laughter.) He would go further than this. Suppose these inspectors were in league with those who had plans of preventing the nuisance, they might be continually tormenting the manufacturers to adopt these schemes. Mr. WAhLEI said the Noble Lord himself did not state what course he was prepared to pursue with respect to the Bill if it should be postponed. With respect THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MARCH l2, 1845. to the removal of the nuisance, it was generally felt that it was very possible to effect it, if the House would but provide the necessary powers ; and it might be done without any great inconvenience to the public. He thought the subject could not be satis factorily settled unless it was referred to a Select Committee of the House. He hoped the Noble Lord would consent to the second reading of the Bill, and then it might be referred to a Select Committee. Sir R. PEEL said a Committee was appointed last year, but it appeared that no one had read the report, and the subject seemed nearly forgotten. He would suggest that Hon. Members should read the report of the last Committee, and then they would be able to judge if any further evidence was required. The Hon. Member for Finsbury seemed to have spoken under the impression that there had been no report. Mr. HAWES said, the Select Committee ought to be appointed on the present Bill. As to the report of the Committee itself, he had a perfect know ledge of its contents. Sir W. CL AY thought any measure on the sub ject ought to emanate from Government. The smoke was discolouring all the magnificent piazzas and porticos of the public buildings, and the beautiful architecture of the new Houses of Parliament would speedily suffer from its damaging influence. The public were most anxious for effectual legislation on the subject. Mr. BRIGHT said there was a general feeling that the settlement of this question was a very easy matter. The Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government recommended Hon. Members to read the report of the last Committee; but he (Mr. Bright) thought that the perusal of that report only showed the extreme difficulty of legislation. No doubt parties had been examined before it who said it was a very easy matter, but this was the evidence of inte rested individuals—persons who had inventions to dispose of, and on whose testimony but little reliance could be placed. The expenses of attending these Committees had been alluded to, but there was only one individual, the vicar of his (Mr. B.'s) parish, who asked for his expenses. There was the greatest difference of opinion as to the principle of the Bill, and no lawyer in Westminster-hall could explain its mean ing. It sought to appoint inspectors who were policemen ; and the fact was, that any common constable would, if the Bill came into operation, be in danger of having himself and others blown up, for he would no sooner see a volume of opaque smoke proceeding from a chimney , than he would directly poke his nose into the engine-house, igno rant of the machinery and its operations. He thought the House might employ itself much better than in this meddling legislation, which never could be at tended with useful and permanent results. He trusted, therefore, that the Hon. Member would withdraw this Bill, and turn his attention to some more useful pro ject of legislation.—(Hear, hear.) Mr MACKINNON was surprised to hear the ob servation that had fallen from the Hon. Member who had just sat down ; and it was quite evident he wa; not aware that a local Bill, having precisely the same meaning as this, had for some time been in operation in the towns of Man chester and Leeds; if he were, he could not, of course, have said that this Bill could not be passed. Now what was the real state of the case ? Whether the Hon. Member opposed this Bill in order to please his constituents, or for some personal motive, he (Mr. Mackinnon) could not help saying that it did appear to him rather extraordinary that he (Mr. Bright) should oppose a Bill which he had said he could not understand. Surely the Hon. Member could not say that he would be willing to lend his aid to the poisoning of the atmosphere, merely because it would save him 301. or 401. for the altera tion of his chimneys. He believed there could not be a second opinion that this was a nuisance which could very easily be much abated. He should accede to the request of his Hon. Friend, and postpone the second reading of the Bill. He should certainly press the second reading on Wednesday the 2d of April. Mr. COBDEN said, the Honourable Member in referring to the remarks made by his Honourable Friend the Member for Durham had stated that the provisions of this Bill were now in force in Man chester. Now, he believed the corporation of that town had power to enforce similar provisions, but they had postponed enforcing them until the present month of March. His Hon. Friend had suggested to the Hon. Member, and he would repeat the sugges tion, whether it might not be advisable to postpone this measure until the result of the experiment about to be made in Manchester had been ascertained. The people of Manchester were favourable to putting dewn the smoke nuisance, and the Hon. Member need not, therefore, expect any opposition from that town. After a few words of explanation from Sir R. PEEL and Mr. MACKINNON, the second reading of the Bill was postponed until the 2d of April. PROPE RTY-T AX. On the order of the day for the third reading of this Bill being put, Mr. WAKLEY rose and said that on a former occasion when the property-tax was discussed the Hon. Member for Lambeth had referred to some in justice which had been done by the Commissioners to the Hon. Member for Oldham—he meant Mr. Fielden. Since then he had received a letter from the Hon. Member on the subject, and in order to make the case complete, he would read an extract from this letter to the House. The Hon. Member stated that " We have been very unjustly treated by the Commissioners ; we made a return to them for the three years ending Dec., 1843, which return was true ; but they were not satisfied with charging us at 12,0001. as the profits on our trade, and they in creased the charge to 24,000 L We exhibited a return to them, which showed that, in theaverage of the three years they lost 24,0001. instead of gained that sum. The Commissioners wished the case to stand over till Easter, to which I assented ; but yet they have sent in and demanded the money." Now, really the operation of a tax of that kind was calculated to create in the public mind the greatest possible discon tent. Every person must feel the injustice of it, and though the amendments which had been pressed on the House were rejected, he hoped that the Cern missioners residing in the country, who acted in this outrageously unjust manner, would receive some intimation from head- quarters which would check them in their course. Nothing could be more monstrous than this proceeding. Mr. Fielden had designated it as a robbery. It might be sanctioned by law, but it was nevertheless a robbery, and if there were any parties who had; any general control over those Commissioners, he trusted that some intimation would But after Easter they make a subsequent demand of the money. Sir R. PEEL said that the Lords of the Treasury were exceedingly desirous to obviate any inconve nience or unpleasantry to which those who had to pay this tax were exposed. On the demand for the money, and there being sufficient grounds for objection, the party on whom the demand was made might apply to two tribunals. If he under stood the question of the Hon. Member for Durham (Mr. Bright), he conceived that the Act gave no option of appeal. Now he (Sir Robert Peel) thought that this was very important, and he would take the opportunity of saying that the Government were exceedingly anxious to avoid the unpleasantry which all felt in having their private circumstances investigated by their neighbours, and had therefore felt objection to appointing local Commissioners. And though they had every dis position to avoid the appointment of Government assessors without absolute necessity, yet in , this case it was conceived that their appointment would be less objectionable than the institu tion of local assessors, and they had an additional inducement to this course, from the supposition that fraud against the Government, on the one hand, and extortionate charge on the other, would both be ob viated. The Hon. Gentleman was in error in sup posing that there was an appeal, and if any one felt that the assessors were likely to be actuated by local prejudice, he was at liberty to appeal to the Special Commissioners, so that if he suspected injury from one tribunal, he was at liberty to appeal to another. Mr. BRIGHT said that he was quite censcious that there was this power of appeal, for he had himself applied to the Special Commissioners. He had not liked to be under the finger and thumb of the Local Commissioners, as he well knew some of his neigh bours had been, and he had consequently applied to the Special Commissioners, but the special Commis sioners, had discharged him, and he did believe that the evil which had been complained of existed to a great extent. On the motion being put that this Bill be read a third time, Mr. SPOONER said he would beg to bring for ward the motion of which he had given notice, and while doing so, he would beg to ask the indulgence of the House. The clauses in the Act of Parlia ment to which he would refer affected a great number of individuals, and as the hardship of which he spoke was great, he trusted that no opposition to the object which he had in view,... The clause which he wished to insert was intended to relieve those individuals who were engaged in business, and who were assisted by members of their family without giving them any regular salary from the income-tax, and it was to this effect 1. And whereas by the said recited Act, it is pro vided in the first rule of Schedule (D), relating to deductions, that no sum shall be set against or de ducted from the p ro fits or gains arising under that schedule for any disbursements or expenses of maintainance of the parties, their families, or establishments ; Be it Enacted, that from and after the passing of this Act, whenever the the person or persons so liable to be charged under the said schedule shall employ any member or mem bers of his family in carrying on:his trade or profes sion, it shall be lawful to deduct such sum or sums of money as would have been a fair remuneration for such employment if any other person had been so employed. Now that clause was construed to the following effect :—That where a master of a family carried on a small business, whether it was a shop or a manu. factory, and employed the members of hii own family, he was not entitled to deduct from his profits the value of the labour of those individuals. He admitted that there were exceptions —that where a person was of adult age, and a member of the family of the principal, if the prin cipal paid him a bona fide salary, he was en titled to make a deduction for such salary. But he was not entitled to deduct the value of the maintainance and labour of members of his own family where no salary was paid. The grievan c e o f which he complained was this. He complained that where the wife and the younger children of a trades man, or small manufacturer, were employed principally in assisting in the conduct of the business of such tradesman or manufacturer, he was not entitled to make any de duction from his profits on account of their services. [LEFT SPEAKING.] TUESDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE. WHITEHALL, MAucii..B. The Queen has been pleased to grant to the Rev. James Endell Tyler, 8.D., the place and dignity of a Canon Resi dentiary of the Cathedral Church of St. Paul, London, void by the death of the Rev. Sydney Smith. FOREIGN-OFFICE, MARCH 7. The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. Joseph Gordon, as Consul at Jamaica for his Majesty the King of Prussia. The Queen has else been pleased to approve of Mr. Robert P. de Silver, as Consul at I Louis, in the Isle of France, for the United States of America. Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of the North Riding of the County of York. H. W. de la Poer Beresford, Esq., to be Deputy-Lieutenant ; M. W. V. Milbank, Esq., to be ditto ; M. 'Wyvill, jun., Esq., to be ditto, March 8. IRELAND. DUBLIN, MARCH 10.—The weekly meeting of the Loyal National Repeal Association held to-day was numerously attended. Mr. O'Connell entered the Hall at half-past twelve o'clock, and was greeted with enthusiasm. The,Hon. and Learned Gentleman was accompanied by Mr. W. S. O'Brien, M.P., John O'Connell, Esq., M.P., James Kelly, Esq., M.P., and R. Albert Fitzgerald, sq.. On the motion of Mr. O'CONNELL, seconded by W. S. o'l3ninsr, the chair was taken by Alderman Kerhan, the senior alderman of the city of Dublin. The CHAIRMAN addressed the meeting briefly. Mr. LIVINGSTON, a native of Nutport, county Mayo, but now residing at Liverpool, handed in 51. 55., the renewed subscription of Mr. John Langan, of that town; 51. ss. from the members of his family; and 371. 145., the weekly sub scription of the Liverpool repealers.— (Cheers.) Mr. O'Cosirsem, moved the hearty thanks of the Associa tion to Mr. Langan, who, he said, was as good a patriot as ever stood in shoe-leather, had prospered in life, and was ready to share that prosperity with his country by contri buting largely, indeed he might say munificently, for the restoration of his native Parliament. Mr. R. D. BRowNE seconded the motion, observing that no man deserved more from his country than Mr. Langan, who could show what an Irishman could do when opposed to the Englishman. Mr. O'CONNELL moved that four Glasgow Repealers be i c en e xd d tiec b ua y dt e r td e h f erg r ieu i n g re g o ma t s o : e a. t t h at e xi g proposition h, ym andhaida oerbbraoyepnaMseird: tion. He next adverted to the L an d Commission, and re marked that it had been a total failure, and that its labours were directed to prove what was plain as the immortal physiognomy of Lord Brougham himself, that Ireland was inhabited by a people that were badly fed, badly clothed, and badly housed. He next called upon the men of Ulster to preserve, as they would their lives and honour, the tenant-right of that province, and then said, in reference to the visit of the Queen to Ireland, that the man who compro mised the right of domestic legislation in consequence of the royal visit, was a traitor to his country. If this were offered as a bribe to the Irish people, not by the Queen, but her Ministers, it would be rejected.—(Hear.) Her whole natirre would recoil from the base surrender of national right—by men who would be satisfied with the substitute of scram blings for the crumbs which might fall from the royal table at the Castle, or the lordly board of those who would be for a while the resident nobility of Ireland. He begged of his countrymen, however, to excel their proverbial courtesy and gallantry, and uphold the hospitality of the Irish soil in the reception which they would give the Queen. He was only anxious that when her Majesty returned to England, she would go back instinct with a knowledge of all the feelings of the Irish. When her Majesty came to Ireland she would be received as she deserved to be, with enthusiasm by the Irish people.—(Loud cheers.) Mr. O'CoNsama , here said, that the period had arrived when they should send petitions to Parliament for repeal. Although they did not expect that the Legislature would soon grant the measure, petitions would serve as a sort of caution to whatever wise statesmen succeeded the present absurd Administration, and induce them to look to the state of Ireland, and agree to thpeaceable agreement which they (the repealers) Mr. FITZGERALD, M.P., for Tippeary, having read a com munication from the country, observed, that in the recent debate in the House of Lords, the Duke of Wellington was reported to have uttered a very egregious falsehood, in de claring, that at no monster meeting held to advance the re peal cause was a single petition adopted. He (Mr. Fitzge rald) could give a most decided contradiction to that asser tion, for he had read and proposed a petition at the Cork monster meeting. Mr. O'CONNELL said that the Duke of Wellington was in capable of asserting what was positively untrue, and the re porter must have been mistaken on the occasion alluded to. The matter was of such importance, that he would move, be fore the meeting rose, that a Committee be appointed to in quire and report upon the exact number of petitions which had been adopted at the monster meetings held in Ireland. Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN, M.P., then brought forward the se cond report of the Sub-Committee on the removal from Eng land of poor persons born in Ireland. There was at present a Bill before the House of Commons relating to parochial settlement in England, and it became the duty of the Parliamentary Committee to say how the Irish people would be affected by it.—(Hear, hear.) The Honourable Gentleman then read some extracts from the repOrt, enume rating instances of persons who had resided in England for years being transported to Ireland because they applied for parochial relief, and concluded by saying that, if they had an Irish Parliament, their people would not have to go to Eng land to seek employment.—(Cheers.) He moved that the report be adopted by the Association. Mr. O'CONNELL, M.P., seconded the motion. It was fright ful to think of the cruelty which was practised under the colour of the Poor-law Act. Of what country were these facts related ? Was it of the Hottentot, or the barbarians of Australia or New Zealand? No, it was of England.—(Hear, hear.) Some of the newspapers accused him of hating Eng land. He had no hatred towards England, but he had the most thorough hatred of the crimes perpetrated in the name of that country.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman next adverted to the inquiry between the Poor-law Commissioners and the guardians of the South Dublin union in reference to the appointment of a physician to the union. Gentlemen connectod with the press had attended at the Commissioners' inquiry, but Mr. Gilbe r t, the Assistant - Commissioner , had all but kicked them out of the room. He (Mr. O'Connell) had always been opposed to the introduction of the poor-law into this country, even at the risk of his popularity, and he would like to see the man now who would vote for its continuance. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman concluded by saying that the poor law should be either remodelled or repealed.—(Cheers.) Mr. O'CosrsrEtz, in a lengthy speech, moved that the Com mittee appointed to draw up a report on the Land Commis sion report have leave to sit again.—Motion carried. The rent for the week was announced to be 4771. 15s. 3d. STOCK EXCHANGE, DUBLIN, MARCH 10 . — Government Three per Cent. Consols, 99 1 ,1 % ; Ditto Three-and-a-Quar- ter per Cent. Reduced, 102% 103. City of Dublin Steam Shares, 52%; Dublin and Glasgow Steam Company, 44 ; Mining Company of Ireland, 14 ; Dublin and Drogheda Railway, 82 1 / 2 ; Great Southern and Western, 11 1 / ; Ditto Extension to Cork and Limerick, 7 ; Irish Great Western. Dublin to Gal way, 2% ; Wexford and Carlow Junction, 2%; Dundalk and Enniskillen, 2% 3 / 4 ; Waterford and Limerick, 4% %; Bel fast and Ballymena, 3% 4; Cork and Bandon, 934. be given to them which would check them from put ting the law in practice in a manner which must produce so much dissatisfaction, because of its great injustice amongst those who were to pay it.—Hear.) General JOHNSON said it was necessary that some alteration - should be made in the law, because it was se oppressive that people in trade did not know what they were about. If persons did not know what they were worth, and if they offered to produce their books in case what they said was disputed, and a sum was still levied upon them at the will of the Commissioners, those persons must give up their entire property to the will of the Commissioners. This was a most unjust and iniquitous proceeding towards his colleague, who was in a large way of business, and who was surcharged to an amount of 24,000 L, when he had actually lost that sum. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he had never heard of the circumstances to which the Hon. Gentleman, the Member for Finsbury, had ad verted till that moment when he had heard the state ment. He did not know how that case arose, and knowing nothing of the circumstances it was out of his power to satisfy the House with respect to it. But he knew this, that if Mr. Fielden had lected it, that there was a power of bringing the case before the Commissioners of Somerset House, through an appeal, of which he might have availed himself; to correct the error of the Commissioners in the country, if they made any error at all. The case was, therefore, not without a remedy—(Hear, hear)—and he begged leave to point out that as the best remedy to which Mr. Fielden could have recourse to rectify the error of which he complained. There was an independent authority in Commissioners in London to inquire into the circumstances, and to apply a remedy. Mr. WAKLEY, in explanation, said that Mr. Fielden stated that he had appealed against this 24,0001. surcharge. He made no general accusation against the commissioners, as he knew, in the metropolis, that they behaved with great forbearance, and between 70 and 80 per cent. of the appeals were allowed. Mr. BRIGHT wished to call the atttention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to a circumstance which created great dissatisfaction in his district. The Com missioners were chosen from the Commissioners of Land-tax, who were all of one political party, and there was a general impression that they did not deal impartial justice. It was be lieved that it was of no use for persons of the opposite party to appeal to them ; and he knew a gentleman, of undoubted veracity, who preferred to put up with a surcharge, because he had found that his statements would not be listened to. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the Gentleman last mentioned by the Hon. Mem ber for Durham might have apperled at once to the Commissioners at Somerset-house if he did not _ ehooseto apply to the local Commissioners — Mr. HAWES said it was important to be gene rally known, that the Act gave the power of appeal to the Commissioners at Somerset House, in the first instonce. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re ferred the Hon. Gentleman to the 131st clause of the Act. Mr. BERNAL said the Honourable Member for Finsbury had not complained of the absence of appeal from the local Commissioners ; but the cane of the Hon. Member for Oldham was, that these Commissioners postponed a case till after Easter, but in the meantime sent another demand for the tax. LTMINGTON, MARCH 10.—Part of a wreck was passed on the 7th inst., in eight fathoms, the Dudgeon bearing N.N.E., distant about three miles, by the Revenge, arrived . here. SHOREHAM, MAncti 10. The Fortitude, Vasey, from Shields, in coming in struck the middle pier, and damaged her stern. BANKRUPTS. Joshua Taylor, draper, Whittlesea, Cambridgeshire, to sur render, March 22, at two, and May 5, at ono, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, official assignee, and Soles and Turner, Aldermanbury. Albert Green, apothecary, Brighton, March 25, at half past two, and April 22, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry ; Freeman, Bothomlev. and Benthall, Coleman-street ; Free man and Cornford, Brighton. David Holdforth, grocer, Stratford, Essex, March 19, at half-past two, and April 23, at twelve, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Johnson, official assignee, Baeingliall-street ; Wright, Cook's-court, Carey -street. Alfred Knott, miller, Brighton, March 20, at two, and April 22, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee, Coleman-street, London ; Soles and Turner Aldermanbury, Lond on. William Hardisty, whitesmith, Wakefield, March 26, and April 16, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Young, official assignee, Leeds ; Fiddey, Temple; Brown, Wakefield. John Roberts, grocer, Liverpool, March 24 and April 23, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court. Cazenove, official assignee, Liverpool ; Sharpe, Field, and Jackson, Bedford row, London ; Moss, Liverpool. Thomas Griffiths, auctioneer, Blaenifed, Cardiganshire, March 18 and April 15, at twelve, at the Bristol District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol ; Smith, Cardigan. DIVIDENDS DECLARED. J. L. Heathorn, ship owner, Abchurch-lane—first dic. of Bs. in the pound, March 15, and any subsequent Saturday, at the office of Mr. Edwards, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry. J. Taylor, bookseller, Brighton—first div. of 2s. 4d in the pound, Nlarch 15, and any subsequent Saturday, at the office of Mr. Edwards, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry. 'l'. and T. P. Trapp, tallow chandlers, Church-street, Southwark—first div. of 20s. in the pound, and second div. of Is. 3d. in the pound, March 15, and any subsequent Satur day, at the office of Mr. Edwards, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry. J. Mallalieu, woollen manufacturer, Saddleworth, Yorkshire —first div. of 3s. Bd. in the pound, March 11, and any follow ing Tuesday, at the office of Mr• Hobson, Manchester T. Sherwood, brick maker, Reading—first div. of ss. in the pound, any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Pennell, Basing • hall-street. J. Robbins, bookseller, Winchester—second div. of 2s. 6d. in the pound, any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Pennell, Basinghall-street. B. Wright, paint dealer, Liverpool—first div. of 10s. in the pound, March 13, and any subsequent Thursday, at the office of Mr. Cazenove, Liverpool. Jh. and Jn. Woodhead, worsted-stuff manufacturers, Brad ford—first div. of 4s. in the pound, March 12, and any sub sequent Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Freeman, Leeds. G. Holdsworth, worsted spinner, Halifax, Yorkshire-- the creditors who have not yet received a former div. may re ceive a div. of 3s. 4d. in the pound, and those who have re ceived a former may receive a further div. of Is. in the pound, March 12, and any subsequent Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Freeman, Leeds. DIVIDENDS. At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street. H. R. Stutchbury, bookseller, Theobald's-road, Bedford. row, April 9, at eleven—.J. Stevens and R. H. W. Drummond, road contractors, Rhodeswell-wharf, Mile-end, April 2, at eleven—F. Blundell, grocer, New Sarum, April 9, at eleven —J. Maynard, bookseller. Panton-street, Haymarket, April 9, at twelve—J. F. Barwick, Old-street, St. Luke's, April 1, at half-past eleven. _ . In the Country. J. H. Heron and Sons, cotton-spinners, Manchester, April 12, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court—G. and S. Potter, calico printers, Chorlev, April 10, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court—lL Hardie, commission agent, Manchester, April 12, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court—S. Parsons, paper hanger, Manchester, April 2, at twelve, at the Manchester District Curt—W. H. and T. B. Turner, cotton spinners, Blackburn, April 2, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court—E. Sheppard, sen., and E. Shep pard, jun., clothiers, Uley, Gloucestershire, April 2, at one, at the Bristol District Court—W. Rees and G. Edwards, gar deners, Wells, Somersetshire, April 4, at eleven, at the Bris tol District Court—T. and W. Withell, ship builders, Pad stow, Cornwall, April 8, at one, at the Exeter District Court —J. Hall, cowkeeper, Willington West Farm, Northumber land, April 3, at eleven, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court—J. Tristram, beer housekeeper, Two Mile-houses, Not tinghamshire, April 8, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court — R. Jackson and R. Yale, engineers, Leeds, April 8, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court—J. L. and T. Tabberner, auct ion ers, Birmingham, April 3, at eleven, at the Birmingham Dis trict Court—E. Light, grocer, Hanley, Staffordshire, April 5, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court—H. Newton, colour manufacturer, Derby, April 4, at half-past eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. ERTIFIC ATES to be granted, unless cause be shown to the contrary, on the day herein mentioned. W. Dettmer, pianoforte manufacturer, Upper Marylebone - street, April I—A. Francis, W. Davey, and M. Francis, iron founders, Bagillt, Flintshire, April 3—J. Hegginbotham and G. Peck, machine makers, Manchester, April 3—T. Ross, hosier, Leicester, April I—J. R. King, druggist, Bath, April I—C. Strange and R. Parsons, merchants, Baglan, Glamor ganshire, j a u n n d ., R co . r P n r m oc i t l o le r, r, c l o l a ra ch ke p fi i e -o l p d r , i A et p o r rs il , April I—J. Quinn, painter, Li v erp o ol, pril I—A. builder, C I r l a r e o n l wich, April I—L. H. Folger, cabinet-maker, High- street, Shoreclitch, April I—C. Dotesio, hotel keeper, Slough, April 1 —T. Baines, worsted spinner, Bradford, April I—A. Padbury, jun., grocer, Epsom, April 1. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. S. Hutchinson and R. Binney, share brokers, Bradford— J. Woollright, W. D. Chidson, T. Wait, and J. Lindsay, silk mercers, Liverpool—J. Hilless and W. Todd, tailors, Bourn— J. James and T. W. Richmond, linen drapers, Swansea—R. Pitcher and P. Bates, tar refiners, Surrey Canal-bank, Old Kent-road—W. Allen and P. Long, coach proprietors, Man chester—J. H. Cuthbert and C. S. Bailey, beer brewers, Ips wich—H. Roberts and M. Lawrence, boarding-school keepers —J. Dunk and T. Baker, millers, Brighton—J. Ouston, R. C. Ouston, and J. S. Ouston, wine merchants, Hull (so far as regards J. S. Ouston)—J. Faulkner, J. Pollitt, and T. Taylor, spinners, Stockport—J. Bayley, J. Bayley, T. Kitts, and J. Kitts, cotton spinners, Bolton cso far as regards T. Kitts) — C. Marshall, J. Mitchell, and }. J. Stones, edge tool manu facturers, Sheffield (so far as regards J. Mitchell)—J. Mor ley, R. Morley, J. Morley, jun., B. Morley, and S. Morley, wholesale hosiers, Wood-street, Cheapside (so far as regards J. Morley, sen., and R. Morley)—M. Hooper, C. W. llooper, and B. Hooper, tanners, Grange-road, Bermondsey—T. Cross and J. Barrett, chemists, Bury, Lancashire—J. Smith, jun., J. Smith, sen., F. A. S. Smith, T. Holmes, F. Hurst, and J. Sayer, lace manufacturers, Chesterfield (so far as regards F. Hurst and J. Sayer)—W. Higgins, J. Higgins, J. Higgins, end H. Higgins, machine makers, Salford (so far as regards W. Higgins)—T. Rudkin and H. Hemmings Paddington - street, Marylebone—J. Weymouth and W. Righy, attorneys, Chancery-lane. • SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. 'Thomas Roxburgh, smith, Glasgow, March 14, and April 4; at twelve, at the office of J. Fleming, Glasgow. William Birnie, painter, Aberdeen, March 17, and April 7, at two, at the chambers of A. and J. Webster, Aberdeen. David Keith, merchant, Dundee, March 15, and April 5, at twelve, at the Royal Hotel, Dundee. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF eOMMONS, March 11. Mr. ORD presented a petition in favour of the Newcastle sad Shields Railway._ BUENOS AYRES AND MONTE VIDEO. Lord PALMERSTON said he rose for the purpose of putting to the Right Hon. Baronet a question, of which he had given notice a few days ago, with regard to the hostilities now being carried on between Buenos Ayres and the State of Monte Video. The House well knew that between these two States there had existed for three years past a state of hostility more or less violent; and that the British Government at one time endeavoured, by an offer of mediation, between the two parties to put an end to that hostility. The question which he was going to ask was founded on documents which had been published in the newspapers of Monte Video, in which had appeared a correspondence between the British Minister at Buenos Ayres, and the Minister for Foreign Affairs at Monte Video. Founding himself entirely on that correspondence, he learned that in the summer of 1842 the British Government determined to interfere, and to put an end to these hostilities by foreign interference. Now, without at all expressing any opinion one way or the other upon the policy of the question, as to whether it was one which should warrant the interference of the Government of this country as a third party, he would say he was en titled to an answer.—(Hear.) It was quite true that those two States had an undoubted right to quarrel amongst themselves ; and, therefore, without saying which party was in the wrong— whether either, or one, or both was to blame, he would still contend for it that his question should be answered. It appeared by a letter which he had read, and which had been sent to Mr. Mandeville, the Monte Videan Consul, by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, that it was the wish and the intention of the British Government to use every effort to put an end to the war. However, in the year 1842, Lord Cowley had an interview with M. Guizot, and the latter gen tleman concurred with the Noble Lord that there should be an end to this war, and that he was ready to enter into any ar rangement that might be proposed for that purpose. On the 16th of December, 1842, an official note was sent to the Go vernment of Buenos Ayres, with an intimation to Mr. Mande ville, which he would now read. The letter appeared in a Monte Video paper, and had been translated into Portuguese ; he would endeavour to read it, making allowance for some ver bal inaccuracies. The Noble Lord having read the letter, went on to say :--Ile wished to know what were the grounds which led to that change, and whether that change was fully communicated to the two Governments concerned. And ho would also ask, whether there was any objection to lay on the table of the House such papers connected with the matter as might be communicated without injury to the public service ? Sir ROBERT PEEL said the statement which had been made by the Noble Lord with respect to that which had been presented by our Minister and the representative of France to the Government of Buenos Ayres was substantially correct. He ( Sir Robert Peel) held in his hand the formal note which had been presented, and although there were some variations in expressions, yet still the Noble Lord was sub stantially correct. In December 1t:42, the representatives of the two countries made communications to Buenos Ayres, to the effect stated by the Noble Lord. In January, 1843, they went further, and stated that the fleets of England and France had sailed from Europe for the purpose of forcible intervention. In June, 1843, he (Sir Robert Peel) was asked, whether or not the representatives of this country had been entirely justified by their instructions in making their communications to Buenos Ayres ; and whether they had full authority to inform that Government, that in case of amicable intervention failing, there would be forcible intervention, for the purpose of putting an end to those lamentable hostilities which even then had so long prevailed. He stated that the representatives of France and England had been instructed to urge on the Governments of the two belligerent Powers the policy of suspending these hostilities, and terminating them by amicable negotiations. He stated at that time, that those re presentatives were not justified in holding out the menace of forcible intervention. He thought the Ministers of France and England had gone beyond their instructions. The Noble Lord had alluded to the correspondence which had taken place between M. Mandeville and the Secretary of Fo reign Affairs in France. There was now the most cordial un derstanding between this country and France with respect to the terminatioe of hostilities between Buenos A ) res and Monte Video. Mr. Mandeville had road a communication from the Secretary of State, and it was owing to that communication that Mr. Mandeville drew an erroneous inference with respect to the intentions of the two Governments; and though Mr. Mandeville had exceeded his instructions—though he had done wrong in stating to the Governments of Monte Video and Buenos Ayres, that he had good reason to believe that hosti lities would be put an end to—yet, looking to Mr. Mandeville's position, and the extreme difficulties he had to contend with, he was yet bound to do justice to the motives of Mr. Mande ville. Certainly, after what had taken place, seeing that Mr. Mandeville, the repn.sentative of this cowl - try to Buenos Ayres, had carried on a confidential com munication with the secretary for Foreign Affairs at Monte Video, they thought that he had put himself in such a position that he could not resume his office with efficiency in that effect but at the same time there was nothing in the conduct of Mr. Mandeville to disentitle him to the confidence of the British Government. Acting as he did, on the best intentions, he should be sorry to imply any strong censure upon the con duct of a gentleman placed in his position. As they were about to renew their representations to the Government of Buenos Ayres, acting in harmony with the French Govern ment on the subject, most earnestly imploring that they would put a stop to their senseless hostilities, it was not the time to lay on the table of the House the communications which had taken place. Lord PALMERSTON said he thought that Mr. Mande ville had been officially employed to negotiate a treaty with Monte Video, and that it was necessary on his part that he should be in communication with Mr. Vidal. Sir R. PEEL said that Mr. Vidal was sick at the time, and it was an act of treachery to publish his letter. Mr. HUME moved for a ,‘ return, showing the total number of pensioners received from the army, on the pension establish. ment, from the year 1834 to the year 1843, both years inclu sive ; specifying the number received in each year from each branch of the service, viz., from the Dragoon Guards and Dragoons, Foot Guards, Horse and Foot Artillery, Corps of Engineers and Sappers and Miners, Infantry of the Line, and Marines, with the average effective strength of each branch of the service, for each year, from 1834 to 1843. Also, the ave rage age of the pensioners when received on the pension estab lishment; specifying the average ages of the pensioners from each branch of the service. Also, the average service of the pensioners at the time when received on the pension establish ment; distinguishing the average period of service of the pen sioners from each branch of the service. Also, the number of pensioners who have died in each year, from the year 1834 to the year 1843, both years inclusive, with the average ages of the pensioners at the time of their decease. Also the total nuraber of pensioners of all branches of the army on the establishment, in each year, from 1834 to 1843, both years inclusive."— Agreed to. . _ SUGAR DUTIES BILL. Mr. LABOUCHERE said that he understood that the Sugar Duties Bill had been brought in and read at twelve o'clock this morning, no doubt through inadvertence. He did not feel the smallest disposition to obstruct the Bill in its pre sent stage, but he thought it would be inconvenient to allow any stage of a money Bill to pass without notice. He ob jected to it as a precedent, although, in this instance, he had no doubt it had been done through inadvertence. He trusted that the Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir Robert Peel) would concur with him, and would not object to say that such should not occur again. Sir ROBERT PEEL entirely concurred with the Right Hon. Gentleman in the general principle which he had stated, and he might depend upon it that in future no money Bill would be taken at the morning sitting without notice. Mr. HUME was understood to ask whether, at a future stage of the Bill, there would be an opportunity of bringing forward the question of a drawback ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that notice of a motion on that subject—for the addition of a clause at the end of the Bill—would be brought in upon the third reading. In answer to a question from Mr. F. FRENCH, Sir T. FREMANTLE said that his attention had been brought to the subject of carriage duties in Ireland, and he thought that many parts of the law would admit of an alteration. among these the greatest di s t ress p reva iled, and ther e es o f s" doubt but this distress arose from the maladministra tion ,s local Government. The Company were not in any toe d swerable for those result s . With res p e ct to the se boiti made by the Company. h e cou ld only say that. f rom lei been most nourishing, it h a d be en b roug ht to ruin by ti'ol of the local Gover nmen t ; an d it wa s f ur th er to be obsersseo t the distress in the C om p an y' s di s t r i c t s was not s o , t r e es' those districts immedi a t e ly un d er th e su bjection ot ssi ment. The colony was o n e o f th e greatest iroportasS.loo under good government might become a source of grea t ' . 00 4 1 tags to this country. It had th e fi nes t climate and ' o e ti d e soil of any island on the face of the globe. It had, w oe ere capabilities in point of naval accommo dation, an d 1 harbours and mean s of fitti ng ou t s hip s , w hich, in ti me - se eic" might be most useful. He would 'not raise the q elef whether or not the settlers went out advisedly or not' f eel were there, and must now be p ro t ec t e d. Thedistree' ° , O tie of them was so gr ea t th a t th e y h a d b ee n mainta in of sole expense of the country; an d a lth ou gh the affsiroo country were most depressed, they had expended su t to tbel public works, for the purpose of giving emploS il lseeS l ', l poor people. Some of the colonists had escaped some to Valparaiso, but those that remained were la n' ot e fie to es... a re misery. After saying that, he would in a few (tar era other papers ci nnected with the subject, and ultimatel')lese the affairs of the company before the House. The 1100' 4 her concluded by seconding the motion. sea Mr. G. W. HOPE would protest in the strorge st earnest manner against the course pursued by the heed f o r t°: her who had just sat down. Th e H on . Member 11 10 " d. formation which a fortnight a g o was a t his comesenmeel course pursued towards the Go v e rnmen t by the 1 100 ' f or es l 4 was most unfair. He stated h e wou ld bring the cal eotl by bits, and ultimately bring th e w h o le of it under theorlihtf of the House. The Hon. Member said he would n° t ; 1 , se' ceasion, raise the genera l ques ti on , b u t he had raisee l a r e r insinuated that the Colo n i a l- o ffi ce h a d b e en guil t y n t s he 6 0 ' breach of faith. He went on to make charges aga in ' Vermont respecting their honour a n d p u blic conduct . o , Mr. AGLION BY said lie had not made these c ha i reo. had only stated that such all ega ti ons h a d been in ei reu c hal et Mr. HOPE—No, the Hon. Member did not mak e • Ole"; but he made insinuations, an d ex p resse d his belief o i no , f That was precisely what he complained of. Th e ra r roin er papers was a mere preten ce . All th e p a pers the G ° e ,„ os tlst was in possession of had be en b e f ore the country for Is o n ; The subject had been adverted to in every newseaP er ' o f 9 publication, a full statement regarding the affa hi c a nie Zealand had been made, under the authority of th e pobil e ' The whole question he r e pe a t e d h a d b ee n before the bad b e: and before Parliament, again and again. Why , it ni eelt even stated that it was th e i n t en ti on o f the Gov impeach the Noble Lord the S ecre t ar y f o r the Col on ; e that the conduct in these matters • and it was even hinted (s f r o reason why the Noble Lord ' left the House was to es; c ij tha t these charges. But what he chiefly complained °, l ; ebi c charges were made out of the House by Hon. stem ; they could not substantiate i n th e House. When et Ae yj Member insinuated th a t M em b ers o f th e Govern Me ejil guilty of a breach of faith and want of honour, it sr hi , that that Hon. Member should substantiate his c ha i r 4oiln w h s avow it. Nothing could:be more unfair than the a jest t e , Member's course in making certain random charge' estr! Government, and then moving for papers in ord .r sose sto from them some foundation for those charges. r' ee , a ble O f eidence of untoward circumstances, they h a d n ot l, rbe woe , obtain any official information from New Zealan d ' flos ereln e e s ri s ; the debentures bad not been approved of by the Dist. The, and were withdrawn, at the instance of the Govern,, rh- ea roin e- o g had not been done under the warrants of the 'l e ha d nor sanctioned by it. Respecting the proposed ta x ', to t o t received any information, and, with resp ect had f•- ie recent outrages alluded to, the last advice " mt t er e a no further than to say th a t t roo p s h a d been s- otscs .j i Sidney for the purpose of repressing those With regard to the fifth head, all he had to fay the information the Government possessed had he eu ne tt) ('l,l the House already. Th e lion Member for Cockeriuwe, Oro Aglionby) had taken a most extraordinary ecl ur e l s ee..„,ss seemed desirous of attacking all that had been tiedro seemed to imply that the Noble Lord had acted on oe t o statement, and even seemed to think that he hati ac et, ' P s el exparte statement of the very murderer himself• t t he 1 3 0 contrary, a magistrate had gone out to inquire hat the 0 ] were, and had personally investigated those facts toes ", of Islands. A difference had ensued between the n t . had ti ns the settlers. The former conceived that the lette ii bad ,ti di fringed their rights, a con fli c t h a d ensue d, and blcle io r ee' e jee happily, been shed. Every e ff or t h a d b e en ma"-eeses Q t ' s irf the evils ehich had ensu e d, an d t o d o justice to eei . t n 9 but some individuals seemed t o thi n k th a t some oi ly i beP lie was requisite than that which had b ee n appointe d t bit ioe per judicial authorities. He (Mr. Hope) thong, soill t ee ly need scarcely refer to the di sas t ers produced t y sego,/ under such circumstances as these—he ne e to ies . refer to the little consideration, ind ee- 'fibs want of all law, which necessarily atte u i i s es ° e el who left their native country to settle in remote po t e nir e e k earth, and he could not admit that the feeling ° s uch, elf that such collisions were unusual. Whe n „eoeto, lisions had taken place, it had often bee n ne r e ea l e t ell impossible to apply to this coun t r y f o r j assistan c ` of What was the case in this instance ? A nu elher oe n,sr e li t o colonists had settled among a people rude, savag e ' ie rred n D oe and ab we all, deeply sensible of their rights and " e in the,re; uphold them. Was it to be expected that Sh e h a d ofwies session of their lands, and with such habits as the , g er?„i s tel them, that they would willingly or easily resign r i ce rols'ese Hon. Member for Cockermouth (Mr. Agliony), that the white man was neglected while the b1a73,,,,5di at protected. The Hon. Member had alluded to Or! on' 01 and had adduced letters which he supposed had b e pi to the colony, as if there was some collusion in th e f e eibe r bu t (Mr. Hope) did not know whether the Hon 3 ese Cockermouth had any peculiar means of id °. h e oll ) f ite this he would beg to say, th a t if he (Mr• ° f alluding to the letters of the Noble Lord at the n :top ortv ie Colonial Department, that there were none of any !_e not in this transactio n , th e con t en t s o f which seer' Isfeletio eluded in the reports. The Honourable im ply! alluded to Mr. Shortlands, arid had seemed to this that Gentleman's conduct had been indefensible l'tnbeso casion. He regretted th a t M r . Sh or tlands had 136 ttide' s duced. Mr. Shortlands was acting-governor at tha . lt` yd on his return had requested to be put on his defen ee in terS on s) also spoken of Mr. Bushy, and had wished for thew. Safrors which that gentleman waa able to give, but hei(col toast did not think that Mr. Busby was able to supt-" , G eern mation which was not already possessed by th e ,pd fo r :bifl and the House. The Hon. Member had also wi'''' e - o hir", t of Cotes' letter, and seemed to conceive that the lett e tra nse r fisoe been transmitted to the colony, had been a me re oft °, t at Mr. Cotes' letters. When the fa c t was that the ceieJee to had been sent out to New Z ea l an d before Mr - re feren_ se' formation had ever been hea r d of. Indeed, on B,__a bee the documents he found th a t Mr.. Cotes' letter t o' off to lt i l ej es . ceived the day after the dispat c h h a d been se rt lion' 1 , so ° Zealand. With respect to the observations of th, e opatr, jo rf , her, upon the coincidence of the contents of that str attru t ttre the letter of Mr. Cotes, he th o ught it not at all a e ) th' „ s oil for it was not at all surprising to him (Mn 11 ° P ° f the sam e persons writing on the same subj ec t, in possess ion the,,pse t : information, and entertaini ng p re tty near.' a nd views, should come to the same conclusionivio Seeress themselves in very similar terms. chin o to 5 fel to the circumstance of sending for troops to n . ihe e t it the outrages, he must say that the Hon. t he in e 0,,,,5 1 , greatly confonnded the facts, and he appearcarlh t ro t to be wholly in the dark respecting them. - tbtss o d to the right of pre-emption, the course taken i ," e - ne e, Government deemed it necessary to secure a ° the fir s , an s o f e this purpose had secured to it se lf the right, in h l§ of purchasing the waste lands, and then to s e " he c :Vs'o4 qtr' 0 vance. These had been the instructions of t Normanby and not of the Government of si StO he t Hope) was a Member. He was not now &bon_ in er .a er , those instructions, but he merely referred to theo' ho ing ,t 7ol l ! show how the system had arisen. The natir' l ics e,. 1 " is tamed that land had risen to 20s. and 30s. an - a nd , t h e s ol * O , became discontented at the price they received, o f ?e ft cordingly called upon the Government either to . : f o ths vo advaneed price or leave them open to the off e f t ' on ia 0 ,007, sons who would do so. But their doing 0 . • aa lly t 4e the colony without funds. The land was origt it; . tO 0 0' 0 1 and then an advance of 20s. an acre was put up o o e j eer ' h e 1 1 b applied to the expenses of the colony, and th e . T"f t r used in the transference of labour to the colonel:4'0o 0 ole ot had been introduced by the Pt let i e s c faile d. o eld present Government, but it had enur e ' . the circumstances of the case, Lord St_ a ha d da e an t otherwiso than apply the land fund as he w ee' itle° a : (Mr. Hope) was ready to produce all the. the oere tit s s o , subject; mad, with respect to the papers whic h s f e rtit e ole r , bar desired to Lave, he might have had theen of GO sp ars There was no information in the possessim' s _ on the e r o which the Hon. Member could not o btain I h r es j i be dot ts, themselves ; and from the papers which had r o f all the tb a domed, the House was practically in possessi?nhe 0 0 1 be ;T o Hon. Member required—( Hear, hear)—sa r i s st Iss eat jC , 1 , the Hon. Member would have been better its e nee' framed from moving for a series of papers, n e . ,. t t sen ssiq. ° tot . ), different times, and bringing on a series of o " ost jesh; i ens were as useless as they were unjust and u .71. 0 dns e e s bo u b s Noble Lord under whom he served. In the a.' he (Mr. Hope) intended to more to th is tn° ::Sit 'eb , t e h e oo ' gb° certainly apply for the whole of the eaP er" ster P ur that the Hon. and Learned Member had be t ie° eee course or else abandon his attempt. intend`e rnor e b t Mr. A GLION BY explained that he and e ra t oo t Lieut. Shortlands; and he begged to be Em u s , 04 „d to ° e el motions which he intended to make for pap H; p is ' te o f i t ;;., wish to bring on any discussion whatever. l ' tbe aff i : e per tain information exclusively with respect t F v, but t " bu t Company, and his object was not discussios.,..n.,. j _ Ol necessary to come at the real state of those . : 6 0 0 ° ..f tb!„ t Mr. CHARLES BULLER said that Is to per s ll_7 , reprobate any attempt to put down any. °' elo pee r " sof er" i l e ctl indeed, _„„me W:000'4 Hou. ein the endeavour to obtain informatero..: th e public circumstance. He thought it was pe Member of that house to make any s tatemen t spr io Istw es el o ' o a subject for discussion, and it did, any Member of any Government should Pre_' `i ii , ops s question the right of any Member to ex i ne a r .. . , se ithe u o t Ist w o public affairs, or of any portion of those 11 r ou t aga r )n e e it it amid all those taunts which had been chess u ieng aC er Mention had been made of these matters un° o f , o v„, and July last, and yet it was unreasonable, % 9e , a5 101 1e ' o f circumstances, to ask for papers in the u P te t° t l' arti cer . Colonial-office. He did not mean to iM O I 3 , es 03' 5 _ 0 0 , Member the Under-Secretary for the Col o n , ' nen i be ee r ti i 0 4 , eare or consideration for the country, hut; ein , bel rip were called for, it was, he must confess, t .n . o " ssea tiona o hret crous to turn round and say that all the 0, sessed was before the House, or ready fP ne h e e en , g ' a tion: t v ell t ;se fact, the House was in possession of no l ivi t ailable for b o o t L ao' at least, of any information that was av an „id he ;; Is er —( Hear, hear,) The Hon. Gentleman et . 0 fsft id papers were before the House, in th ° mired them. ' He must say that e _ w ing ? the Honourabli; Gentleman seemed to ,P t the° o te, s the "i the t° loose with the House. 'Why what wa , aet de w 110 0 were no less than six subjects of com k pl . " nth _ n - the Hon. and Learned Member for Coe the b 0° ' 0 ,0 " imposition of taxes, the commission of ou i , _ e s ance of land sales, and the proclamation e o s !_ . 0e..5t di et had been said. Now, on five out of t e lie! . . o _l s ' e at : e l ,c l , O was absolutely no information before th I, ip l e a J et (sie ' li s , it was the duty of Government to expressin a, were lee s i es, application for any other papers except this of table of the House. Was this, he would r a Meow, o pin e st answer from a great public department to s ent ,c! . u t t i e House ? A statement was made that an acctu fis s thalelecn was, but he presumed that it was not the ac ed e°ell' ot 6 %e °? to the correspondence. He did not l ! n e oss: en s tr nien s of ia r in e:l tie se is Hon. Member for Finsbury (Mr. Dunto d ia n re o r t o other night—(Laughter)—and if it were,less. infer": the Government could be in possession of ! ra bl eb that account. j Was he to say that the 0/ " And if they were not, where was the inform y s o ° es" House was said to be possessed? Jen - ' Mr. HOPE intimated his dissent. , Gent th ere o tb Mr. C. BULLER—Did the Honourable tot e js 10 to contradict him ? He would repeat . , o f ih° s 0. 0 .. 0rs not a single itom of information nn five 6 ,M del q e l, l l . jecta in the papers before, the House. e ` tohe r til o ttr e< o enter into any controversy with tha Al none T h e.e sta n eeo Secretary for the Colonies on that subject'ter hobo c otly which he had to complain was one of gre e ° Lati to tile larger question. The matter of which is bu t ,' o f all iiis or v i ti es was not the ill usage of New Zealand only, ate , ette r es e° l lol° nies—of the utter ignorance—the gross, s'and te.A of every person connected with the colonies O ry be tlatnuelyel, from the Governor up to this NEW ZEALAND. Mr. SOMES, without making any observations, and merely stating that he thought the papers ought to he laid on the table of the House for the information of the public, moved for " Copies of all correspondence between the Colonial-office and the Governor of New Zealand respecting the issue of deben tures, and the rendering them a legal tender. Of all corre spondence between the same respecting the taxes pro posed in the Legislative Council of that colony. Of all cor respondence between the some respecting recent outrages by the natives in the Bay of Islands, and the abolition of the custom-house of that district. Of all correspondence respect ing the measures taken by the Governor of New Zealand to fulfil Lord Stanley's agreement of 12th May, 1843, respecting the grant of a conditional title to the lands of the New Zealand Company. Of all correspondence respecting the disallowance by the Governor of New Zealand of any awards made by the Commissioner of Land Claims respecting the Company's lands. Of all correspondence relating to a proclamation issued by the Governor of New Zealand allowing the sale of lands by the natives at a less price than that fixed by the Act of 5 and 6 Viet., c. 36." Mr. AGLIONBY seconded the motion. He should not, in doing so, offer many observations to the House, and even those he should address to the House he should offer with considera ble diffidence and hesitation. From inquiries that had been made from him by several Hon. Men - .bers, he collected that it was imagined there was an intention to hang upon this mo tion for papers the whole question between the New Zealand Company and her Majesty's Government, or rather he should say the Colonial-office department. But it was not his inten tion, nor that of the Hon. Member for Dartmouth, to raise that question now ; it was one that might ultimately come be fore the House. The House and the public were well aware that grave allegations had been made by the New Zealand Company, that they had been treated by the Colonial-office with a gross want of faith and injustice. The House arid the public were also aware that allegations had been made publicly to the effect that the Company had been thwarted in all their attempts to colonise New Zealand, that the progress of their settlements, and the happiness and interests of the settlers had been threatened by the hostility of the local Government of the islands, which was supposed to carry out the views of the Co. lonial-office. It was alleged also that the local Government continued its hostile operations both under the late and present governors there. It was com plained that the late governor had a preference for the settle ments in the northern part of the island, which were partly founded by himself. As to the present governor, he was still more unfortunate, for he was complained of by all parties. Even the papers published in the seat of the local Govern ment stated that its proceedings were now, and had for some time been, of a ekaracter not to be justified by any kind of policy. wes not his intention to raise the question of the claims of the colonists, which had been discussed from time to time, and which had been referred to a Committee of that House ; and he only alluded to the labours of that Commit tee for the purpose of stating his opinion that their report, which em bodied the results of their labours, ought not to be allowed to sink. That report had not keen yet produced, out of consi deration to the Government and to the Right Honourable Baronet who was at the head of it, and who had before them matters which pressed more upon their attention. The question was now brought before the House because the claims of the colony and of the colonists had not met with that consideration which they deserved. The whole statement of the case was well worthy of the attention of the House. He had no intention, however, of entering fully into the subject. He had no wish to make this what was com monly called a New Zealand debate. If he were asked why the Hon. Member for Dartmouth, who was chairman of the Company, and himself, who was one of the Directors, brought forward this motion for papers, he would say that it was be cause they knew more of the evils suffered by the colony—more of the wretchedness and misery endured by the colonists—and which were entirely attributable to maladministration, than any Hon. Members of the House. The attention of the Priiee Minister was seldom called to the colonies, and the Colonial Department, as at present constituted, was utterly indequate to the management of colonial affairs.—( Hear, hear.) The affairs of each separate colony did not receive that attention which they were entitled to. He did not intend to raise the question of colonial management, but he believed that no single office, constituted as the Colonial-office was, could pay that attention to colonial affairs which they demanded. The reason why he addre-sed the 1 - louse on this subject was, because he believed that he knew more about it than any other Hon. Member unconnected with the colony. He would ask, if any other Hen. Member had the slightest idea of the proceedings complained of by the colonists, anti he thought that he might be eliciting information that could net be elicited by any other persan. The Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government was not aware of the state of the colonies. According to the routine of office, the affairs of any particular co'.ony were not brought under the Right Hon. Baronet's consideration, except under special cir cumstances. The Colonial office itself did not know as much of the affairs of this colony as was known from private infor mation and accounts in the newspapers. But that in formation was as a sealed book to the generality of Members. It was not his intention to go into the details of this matter, but without embracing it in some measure, he could not per form his duty either to the New Zealand Company or to the public. Among the regulations of the Colonial-office was one preventing governors issuing debentures wtthout its au thority. He begged to ask whether the Government had sanc tioned the issuing of debentures fur 15,0001. ? He wished to know whether the present system of governing the colony was sanctioned by her Majesty's Ministers—whether the governor of the colony had power to issue debentures without the authority of the English Executive? He should be glad if he could have the governor's minutes produced. It was a document which certainly did not form part of the present notice, but probably his calling attention to it would induce the Under- Secretary for the Colonies to lay it on the table of the House with the other papers. If the policy pursued by the local Go vernment were sanctioned by the English Government, he must say it was highly improper. He gathered this policy principally from those common sources of information which were open to everybody, but he could assure the House many of his private correspondents had confirmed the statements made in the local papers. What would the agricultural Mem bers who occupied the opposite benches say to a Government imposing a tax of 103. upon every sheep imported into the colony—a tax upon the very means by which an infant colony could thrive? But this was not all. What would they think of a tax being imposed upon every dog required to hind their sheep? It might be very well to tax dogs in England, where dogs were superfluous, but Hon. Members must remember that New Zealand dogs were rarely to be met with. One would think that the Government of a new colony would held out an inducement to cleanliness—habits of health— morality, and decency. But what would they think of a local Government who proposed a tax of 1/. upon every room above three ? So that a family, large or small, had to herd themselves together in three rooms. This was a state of things that ought not to exist. He would not go fully into the subject, but he must remark, that in consequence of the course that had been pursued, nine of the countrymen of Eng land had fallen in cold blood, and after they had given up their farms. Had there been any inquiry into this subject? There had not; and when it was demanded it was refused. He saw the Secretary for the Colonies had given a notice to move for the report of the Governor of New South Wales ; that might throw some light upon the subject, but he was afraid it would not be productive of much good. He had to complain of another mode which had been resorted to, which was most unfair. Papers had been sent to the Co lonial-office by individuals, and had been issued thence as if they were official. The grossest acts of cruelty were perpe trated upon the settlers by the aborigines, and even upon wo men. The only punishment which had been inflicted by the Governor was, to take ten muskets from ten of the worst of the rioters ; but lest this punishment might be considered too severe, the muskets were again restored to them. He would not now enter fully into the subject, but reserve himself for a future occasion ; nor would he mix ep the claims of the Com pany with the questions which he now brought forward. He would, on a future occasion, move for papers showing the mode in which the Company had been treated by the Govern ment. He wished to call the attention of the House and of the Government to the sales of land which had taken place in that colony. The House was aware that, by Act of Parlia ment, the minimum was fixed at 1/. per acre. This was in 1843. But it was currently reported that this Act had been evaded, and that the Governor by proclamation had allowed sales to take place by paying 2s. 6d. to the native, and 17s. 6d. to the Go vernment. He wished to know whether that was the case ? It was further said, that the Governor of the Wellington dis trict had felt the injustice so much, that he issued a notifica tion to the effect, that no persons could purchase, excep t from the Crown. The House and the country should bear in mind that the colony of New Zealand contained 17,000 inhabitants, 10,000 Of 1010111 were recent settlers. He was sorry to perceive that