The Sun. — London, England, 1845-04-05 00:00:00

GRANT to MAYNOOTH COLLEGE FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. TlMES.—There is something quite ludicrous in the State con. Centrating all its sympathies and all its expenditure on the college Instead of the parish, in making priests instead of maintaining them. Paying clergy when we find them, that is, because there they are, and the people will have them, seems a far less departure from principle than actually producing them, and sending them into the country. Maynooth is, in fact, a missionary college. Sir Robert Peel is a second St. Patrick, sending fresh and more accom. plished emissaries to fight their own way in a barbarous country. We feed the Protestant clergy, but teach and train the Catholic student ; and then send the latter to usurp the former's nominal kingdom. Of course the grant is fated. Even if it had been contingent on the result of a debate, there was nothing last night to damage its prospects. The two University Members, Sir Robert Inglis and Mr. Law, resisted it ex officio, and the former con amore, but with ar. guments which have ceased to persuade the British Legislature. Messrs. Gregory and Plumptre also protested in the name of their several parties, the latter without any compromise et tone; and, strange to say, Mr. T. Duncombe took the semi line. Lord Sandon, however, not having the fear of M'Neill before his eyes, gave in his adhesion to the measure. Lord John Russell supplied to Sir Robert that cordiality which he so painfully is in want of from his own benches, and Mr. Ward and Mr. Shen also brought their quota of support. The Member for Sheffield goes farther than the present Government measure, and also feels an objection, In which we beg to express our entire sympathy, against giving good English money to this doubtful purpose. Ireland ought at least to maintain its own schools and clergy. HERALD.—Our readers have now before them the provisions of the Bill for the increase of the Maynooth fluid. We can hardly expect any who object to the measure upon principle will be recon ciled to it by a consideration of its details ; but we are of opinion that few reasonable men will dispute the justice of Sir Robert Peel's description of the three.fold alternative presented to the country and to the Legislature, viz. —First, to break off all con nexion with the Maynooth establishment, and, after providing for existing Interests, discontinue the annual grant. Or, secondly, to go on as we have been going on for fifty years. Or, thirdly, to adopt the measure now proposed. Sir Robert Peel described, without exaggeration, the penury and sordidness of the establish ment in which the religious teachers and political leaders of the Irish Roman Catholics are prepared. Coming from such a place could they be different from what they are? This is the question to be answered by the opponents of the Minis terial Bill. But though such penury and sordidness of education may, and perhaps do, justify rudeness and disaffection in the indi viduals who have suffered by them, they are no justification of those who ought to have obviated them—the preceding race of Ro. man Catholic clergymen and the Romanist agitators. They have drawn (priests and agitators between them) from two millions and a half to three millions annually from the people for many succes. sive years; they have built gorgeous cathedrals, and given every other proof of great wealth ; but to the college in which their clergy are educated they have not contributed a single penny, though a small per centage on their receipts would endow a college as rich as all the colleges in either Oxford or Cambridge taken together—far richer than the Irish University. They give to Mr. O'Connell fifty-six thousand pounds a-year! and they leave their first theologioal professor to subsist upon the public grant of 1201. per annum ! Such an anomaly, so long continued, :cannot be accidental. It is part of the system b 7 which ftomanifun and democracy—democracy of the lowest, rudest, and most violent character—have been long allied in Ireland, to combat the religion of England and the British connexion. To force a good education open the Irish priesthood, to let the intelligent Roman Catholic laity see that we wish their clergy well educated, and that we are ready to furnish the means, is to out at the root of this alliance; and such is the necessary tendency of the Ministerial Bill, the third and only safe branch of the alternative at our command. ADVERTISER.—Great as is the evil of endowing Catholicism in Ireland, the circumstance is accompanied with no inconsiderable good. It has opened the eyes of thousands of English Episcopalians and Scottish Presbyterians to the evils of religious establishments, and consequently made them converts to the views we have always advocated. The former friends of establishments are compelled to relinquish the ground which they have hitherto taken. They find they can no longer, vith any consistency or justice, plead for the State endowment of one religion, and object to the some favour being conferred on another. Either, as just remarked, all religions ought to be endowed, or there ought to be no State religions at all. To the latter conclusion they are at last driven. Within the last few weeks a greater number of proselytes hare been made to the anti-State-Church principle, than were made for as many years before. If it shall turn out, as we hope it will, that the effect of the endowment of Catholicism in Ireland, will be to create so powerful and universal a feeling against religious esta blishments, as shall lead to their abolition altogether, the event which we now so deeply deplore, will prove to have been one of the happiest that could have occurred. Things cannot remain as they will be after the passing of this Bill. It is not to be expected that the Roman Catholics of Ireland will be content with the pit.. Lance, inadequate to their rights, if the principle of endowment be once admitted—given to them like a bone to a discontented dog. No, they must have more or nothing; they will not be content with less, without becoming parties to their own degradation. Here, we mean in Ireland, we have a population of 500,000 Pro testants, with a Church endowed to the extent of one million and a half sterling, while the great mass of the population—the Roman Catholics of Ireland—consisting of upwards of seven millions of people, are expected to be satisfied with a grant of some 26,000/. the crumbs from their masters' table. The insult to them of such an expectation would be unpardonable, did not the conduct of their own leaders and their own press justify it. BANK OF ENGLAND. (From last Night's Gazette.) An Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria cap. 32, for the Week ending on Saturday, the 29th day of March, 1845. ISSUE DEPARTMENT. Notes issued 29,471,410 Government debt 11,015,100 Other securities 2,984,900 Gold coin and bul lion 13,380,953 Silverbulliou 2,090,457 .£29,471,410 j £29,471,410 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. Dated the 3d day of April, 1845. :PARTMENT. Government secu- titles (including Dead Weight Annuity) Other securities 13,126,469 Notes 9,747,280 Gold and silver coin 732.81n £37,193,938 SHALL, Chief Cashier. g GE.—(YE STE RDAY.) Gibraltar . . Leghorn 3l Genoa ..... ...... 26 20 Milan Venice .... ..... Naples ........ ....... 39A Palermo, I,,er oz llBl Lisbon s2i Oporto . 53 Rio Janciro . . 23i Bahia . Buenos Ay!-.9 NewYork.:::dyssight PRJVKA 9ULLION, DER OZ Foreigt bars.. 43 17 9 Portuga' , )1d Coin 317 5 New Poublaons .... 0 0 0 New Silver t. tars 0 4 10i BANKING a Proprietors' capital 14,653,000 Rest Public deposits (in cluding Exche quer, Savings. banks, Commis sioners ofNat ion al Debt, and divi .....acknlk..7^6larrtntrir " bills £37,195,938 M. MA' Dated the 3d day of April, 18 COURSE OF EXCHA: Amsterdam CF. 12 S Ditto, at sight l2 61 Rotterdam 2U. 12 9 Antwerp 26 20 Hamburgh M.B. 14 0 Altona Paris, 3 days' sight 25 95 Ditto, 3 months 26 15 Marseilles 26 20 Bourdeanx 26 20 Frankfort on Maine 123 Petsrsburgh, 3Us — Berlin Vienna, effee. fl. 3 M lO 4 Trieste, ditto Madrid 361 Cadiz Barcelvaa _ Bevillo — MARKET INTELLIGENCE. COAT. WLAUICET. Prices ner ton at the close of the market :—Adair's Main 15s 6d ; , b h yl.on's West Hartley, 16s ; H as t mg ' s H art l ey, 15, 6d ; Main, 16s 6d ; Nelson's W es t H ar tl ey, 1 6s ; Ord's Redlieugh, l''; Taylor's Hartley, 15s 6d; West Hartley, I6s ; West Tyn;.• Main, 133 ; West Wylam, 15s 9d Wvlam, 153 6d ; Wall's-end i)l9sf.rth, 16s 6d ; Killi ngwort h , 15; 6d ; East Hetton, 16s ; Hetto:l g.hotton, lgs 6d ; Ade laide, 19s ; Lambton, 18 s 6d ; Morrison, 16s ; Richmond, 16s 9d ; 'aide, 17s 9d ; Seymour Tees, 17s; Anthrae, 18s 6d ; Cow pen Hartley, 16s ; Hartley, 153 6d ; Derwentwb:!er Hartley, 153 ; Townley-, 153 ; Hedley, Iss 6d ; Killingwortn, 15s 6d ; Sidney's Hartley, 16s ; West Hartley Netherton, 1 63.---IZips arrived, 115. (From the London New Price Current of April 4.) SUGAR.—This afternoon the first public sale of new Bar badoe3 this season took place, and consisted of 150 hhds, the quality was superior to that of last year, and the proportion of Foots decidedly less than in the firmer season. There was a large attendance of the trade, the biddings were animated, and every lot was disposed of, at prices 2s to 3s above the general valuations for good and fine, and Is per cwt for low and middling kinds. There was an increased business trans acted in the private market. To-day the home trade were free purchasers of Refined Goods, and the rates previously established were supported; the quantity on offer at present is limited. Bonded Crushed hu,9:ar is dull of sale, and 303 9d to 31s have been accepted for first quality. DIACRITIC S--At auction the large quantity of 17,433 bags all fiiund purchasers at and after the sales, low brown went at 3.39, mid 35s to 365, good 37s to 38s, fine, 33s 6,1 to 40s, yellow 418 to 41s Gd, mid 42s to 445, good mid 44s 6d to 468 6d, gond 478 to 493 6d, tine 50s to 51s 6d, very superior 54s 6d to 565; grey low to mid 40s to 435, and good to fine 41e to 479 Gd per cwt. FOREIGN.—BraziI has brought full rates, and a cargo of soo sons of fine brown Pernambuco in bags at 19s 3d per cwt. At auction 50 chests of Babia were sold, good strong white at 255, good grey ditto 233 Gd to 24% damaged 21s ; 50 chests of brown, very fine 20. to 21 s , fine 19x, good IS 6d middling 178, and damaged 17. Gd to 188 6d per cwt. Business in yel low Havannab has been checked, inconsequence of a further advance being insisted upon, fine is held for 2 . 3 s to 245, good 225 to 22s 61, low to middling 20. 6d to 213O,ff;ordeoti'd a aato n d auction.brown l9s 6d to 20. per cwt, none has again been White fine quality is held for 33s 6d to s to 335, middling and low 27s to 29s percwt. Portoßieofetched2oB to 208 Gd per cwt. morAssE..—West India little wanted, and r „.;„ ‘ . ; at auction 402 puns of good Antigua were only gave _ y partly sold a: 18s to 19% and 16 puns of Barbadoes at 198 per East India Ti . eaele sold at 19s per cwt. c wt. EAST INT/lA.—This afternoon there were four public sales of Bengal Sugar, containing 4,772 bags ; of these 1802 bags consisted of Bally Khal, these were taken in much above the value, common syrupy grainy yellow at 36. 6d, middling ditto, -:t2s to 43% good ditto 45. to 465, fine ditto 54s to 558, d r ainage damaged 37s to 445, and washed 43. t o 56 s per cwt ; th ere w ere Latvers at fair market rates. Of other sorts the chief part generally at former rates. TEA.—To44 . .v the transactions in Congou was on a more extended scale, consequence of 9d to 9id per lb having been accepted for eozunon. Twankay sells mor e f ree l y at Is 2d to is 2d per lb , for common, but in othe r sor t s t h ere was little done. COFFEE.—This afternoon there was a better demand for Native Ceylon, and the rates paid were rather above those of yesterday, good ord fetching 46s Cti to 47s per cwt by private treaty, but there are few orders fur Plantation—at public sale 653 bags were offered ; Native all sold, good ord pale a; 46s 6d to 475, ord 455 6d, and sea danlzo'ed 44s to 45s 6d, the Plantation sorts were partly aispv,;2d of at trim rates, viz.—good middling blue at 85s to 90s, maid grey 80s to 82s, fine fine ord 68s to 70s, fine ord pale 54s to 565, very good ord 50s, pea berry 70s, superior 908 to 935, Triage 37s to 49s per cwt. Mocha was purchased with caution, and 185 bales at auction were only partly sold at the former value, viz.: mid brownish clean garbled at 58s, mid greenish 60s 6d to 61s, mid yellowish 59s 6d to 60s, mixed peas 725, and sea damaged 37s to 59s per cwt. Cooot —This afternoon at public sale 30 bags of Bahia ' Cocoa were sold at 365 6d per cwt for Mae bright Red, being rather cheaper. Rum, BRANDY, AND HOLLANDS.-100 puns Jamaica sold at 3s 4d for plain quality 32 to 34 per cent 0. P., and small parcels at 3s 5d to 3s 8d for middling, good 3s 9d to 4s, and fine 4s 2d to ss. For Leewards there are not many buyers, only 120 puns at is 10d proof. The market is dull for Calcutta, and previous rates with difficulty sustained; only 50 hbds sold at is 8d proof with certificate. Demerara 2s 6d to 2s 10d for 100 puns, 28 to 37 per cent O.P. There are not many buyers of Brandy, Cognac best brands of the vintage of 1838, hhds 4s Bd, puns 4s 6d; ditto 1839, hhds 4s sd, puns 4s 3d; ditto 1840, hhds 4s 4d, puns 4s 2d; ditto 1841, hhds 4s 4d, puns 4s 2d ; ditto 1842, hhds 4s Id, puns 3s lld ; ditto 1843, hhds 3s 11d, puns 3s 9d; ditto 1844, hhds 3s 9d, puns 3s 7d; middling and good middling of the various vintages 2e 8d to 3s 7d, low 2s 6d to 2s Bd, and Bordeaux 2s 6d to 2s 7d per gallon. Geneva shipping sort Is 9d, and fine 2s 4d to 2s lOd per wallet'. RICE-Bengal has been much inquired for, but the market has been scantily supplied, and prices continue high ; low to middling white lls 6d to 12s 6d per cwt; Madras yellow 9s 6d to lOs 6d per cwt; Java white at lls to 12s 6d, and yellow lOs to lOs 6d per cwt ; Patna at 14s to 16s 6d, fine at 17s to 18s, and Carolina at 23s to 28s per cwt. SPICES.-This afternoon the market was better supplied with Black Pepper, 1,037 bags of Sumatra, and 1,275 bags of Penang were submitted to public competition ; the former was sold at very full rates ; good light rather greyish free from dust and stalks fetched 2id, to 2id sea damaged first class lid to 2id, second class 2id to 2d, sea damaged and repacked 2id to 2id, good light sound clean brownish 2id to 2id, sea damaged Ist class 2.Ad, 2nd 21J, ditto and repacked 2d, good bold black rather stalky and dusty 2id to 2-id, sea damaged first class 2 1 4 d, second ditto 2%d, inferior 2d, dusty grey 214,d, inferior 21/3d, and sea damaged 2d to 21td, the latter was taken in at 2%d for good light brown beingrather above the value ; there were purchasers at 24d per lb. An in creased desire was shown to buy Cassia ignea. TALLOW.-This afternoon at public sale 439 pkgs, 77 hhds, 7 boxes of South American Tallow went at 30s 6d to 375, and 149 casks of New South Wales at 35s 3d to 38s 6d per cwt. FRIDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE. LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, APRIL 3, 1845. .Notice is hereby given, that her Majesty will hold Levees, at St. James's Palace, on the following days, at two o'clock, viz. :—Wednesday, 23d April instant ; Wednesday, 7th May next. N.B. The Knights of the several Orders are to appear in their Collars, at the Levee on the 23d of April, it being a Collar-day. LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S. OFFICE, APRIL 3. Notice is hereby given that her Majesty will hold Draw ing -Rooms, at St. James's Palace, on the following days, at two o'clock, viz. :—Friday, 2d of May next; Tuesda , y, 27th of May next, to celebrate her Majesty's birthday. 154.8. The Knights of the several Orders are to appear in their Collars, at the Drawing-Room on the 27th of May. BOARD OF GREEN CLOTH, ST. JAMES'S PALACE, APRIL 4. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Colonel George Bowles to be Master of her Majesty's Household, vice the Hon. Charles Augustus Murray, resigned. [Th• following articic i 3 submtitutea tot that which was in serted in last Tuesday's Gazette:—] WHITEHALL, 'Martcit 29. _ The Queen has been pleased to order a conge d'elire to pass the Great Seal, empowering the Dean and Chapter of the cathedral church of Ely to elect a Bishop of that See, the same being void by the death of Dr. Joseph Allen, late Bishop thereof ; and her Majesty has also been pleased to recom mend to the said Dean and Chapter, Thomas Turton, Doctor in Divinity, now Dean of the collegiate church of St. Peter, Westminster, to be by them elected Bishop of the said See. WAR-OFFICE, APRIL 4. Coldstream Regiment of Foot Guards—Captain W. M. Wood, from the 60th Foot, to be Lieutenant and Captain, vice the Hon. F. J. R. Villiers, who exchanges. 19th Foot—Captain J. H. Fearon, from half-pay Unat tached, to be Captain, vice the Hon. C. R W. Forester, who exchanges; Lieut. H. J. M. Campbell to be Captain, by pur chase, vice Hilton, who retires; Ensign R. Warden to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Campbell, April 4. 25th Foot—Staff Surgeon of the Second Class J. M'Gregor to be Surgeon, vice Niviion, who exchanges, April 4. 26th Foot—Captain W. H. Males, from half-pay 55th Foot, to be Captain, vice F. N. Skinner, who exchanges; Lieutentant J. Rodgers to be Captain, by purchase, vice Milks, who retires ; Ensign F. J. Cresswell to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Rodgers ; D. H. Blair, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Cresswell, April 4. 28th Foot—Captain F. Fairtlough, from half-pay Sicilian Regiment, to be Captain, vice Minter, promoted ; Lieutenant P. A. Butler to be Captain, by purchase, vice Fairtlough, who retires ; Ensign J. G. Maycock to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Butler; M. Baumgartner, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Maycock, April 4. 29th Foot—Lieutenant L. Coker to be Captain by purchase, vice M'Kenzie, who retires • Ensign 0. Carey to be Leute nant, by purchase, vice Coker; Ensign J. W. N. B. Parry, from the 41st Foot, to be Ensign, vice Carey, April 4. 34th Foot—Captain N. R. Brown to be Major, without purchase, vice Byron, deceased ; Lieutenant C. F. Hervey be Captain, vice Brown ; Ensign C. W. Randolph to be Lieutenant, vice Hervey, March 23 ; T. L, Faunt, Gent., to be Ensig, vice Randolph, April 4. 37th Foot—Ensign: G. A. J. M'Clintock to be Lieutenant by purchase, vice Davenport, who retires; T. M. Machel, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice M'Clintock, April 4. 41st Foot—R. F. S. L. Jenner, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Parry, appointed to the 29th Foot, April 4. 60th Foot—Lieut. and Capt. the Hon. F. J. R. Villiers, from the Coldstream Regiment of Foot Guards, to be Captain, vice Wood, who exchanges ; Lieut. D. D. Muter, from the 89th Foot, to be First Lieutenant, vice Saunders, who ex changes ; Second Lieut. G. B. Jennings to be First Lieu tenant, by purchase, vice Bruyeres, who retires ; A. C. Gre ville, Gent , to be Second Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Jen- Rings, April 4. 87th Foot—Lieut. W. Houghton, half-pay 15th Foot, to be Paymaster, vice J. F. Duvernet, who reverts to his former half-pay, April 4. 89th Foot—Lieut. H. Saunders, from the 60th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Muter, who exchanges, April 4. Rifle Brigade—Lieut. the Hon. E. F. N. Fane to be Adju tant, vice Somerset promoted, April 4. 2d West India Regiment—Lieutenant M. Stedman to be Captain, by purchase, vice Simmons, who retires ; Ensign J. C. Harnett to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Stedman ; 1). A. Patterson, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Harnett, April 4. BREVET.—Captain W. Fairtlough. of the 28th Foot, to be Major in the Army, July 19, 1821 ; Major W. Fairtlough, of the 28th Foot, to be Lieutenant-Colonel in the Army ; Captain W. H. Mulles, of the 26th Foot, to be Major in the Army, Jan. 10, 1837._ ~,as, vice artiregor, who .Iclianges ' April 4. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, APRIL 4. Corps of Royal Engineers—First Lieutenant J. G. M'Kerlie to be Second Captain, vice James, placed on the Second e d List; Second Lieutenant J. F. M. Browne to be First Lieu tenant, vice M'Kerlie, April 1. Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Nottinghamshire. Southern Regiment of Nottinghamshire Yeomanry Cavalry —J. S. Sherwin, Esq., to be Major, vice G. Robinson, re signed ; C. G. Balguy, Esq., to be Captain, vice J. S. Sher win, promoted ; H. F. S. Robinson, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice Oldknow, resigned; W. Francklin, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice R. Kelham, resigned, March 31. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. William Fielding, silk manufacturer, Taunton, Lancashire. ; BANKRUPTS. John Paulton, stone-mason, High-street, Portland-town, to surrender, April 11, at twelve, and May 16, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basing hall-street ; Letts, Bartlett's-buildings, Holborn. Thomas Dinghy, draper, Stratton. ground, Westminster, April 11, at one, and May 16, at two, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Alsagar, official assignee, Birchin-lane ; Dean, Leeks, and Dixon, Co., St. Swithin's-lane, City. John Currie and Louis Elize Seignette, merchants, Mincing lane, City, April 17, and May 16, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee ; Trehern and White, Barge-yard Chambers, Bucklersbury. Richard George Ward and John Perry, meat salesmen, Newgate- market, April 15, and May 24, at twelve, at the COurt of Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Sambrook court, Basinghall-street ; Young, Warwick- square, Newgate stiket. Alexander Horatio Simpson, engineer, Blackfriars-road, April 15, and May 24, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Sambrook -court, Basinghall-street ; Michael, Red Lion-square • William Giles, boarding housekeeper, Brighton, April 16, at half- past two, and May 16, at one, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Johnson, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; San ford, John-street, Adelphi. Charles Day, Chemist, Acton-street, Gray's Inn-road, April 16, at half-past twelve, and May 16, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-street buildings; Pain and Hatberly, Basinghall-street. John Lampard, printer, Stanhope -street. Clare-market, 16, at eleven, and May 13, at one, at the Court of Edwards, official assig nee , F re d er i c k' s - p l ace, Comyn, Cree, Law, and C omyn , B O a ld iik J r e u Nv pt ry; • Bush-lane, Cannon-...;req. James Knight Cotteref, „rover, Glastonbury, Ap r il 23 an d May 16, at eleven, at the ITristt. District Court. Ky nas t on, official ;,ztwood-on4Vyre, official assignee, Bristol; Nash anaoke, Glastonbu r y. Samuel Parker Bidder, slate dealer, t Lancashire, April 14 and May 9, at twelve, at e Liverpo o l District Court. Turner, official assignee, Liverpool; 2.:idger and Blake, London-wall ; Dodge, Liverpool. Henry Hartshorn, plumber, Shrewsbury, April 14 and May 15, at eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. 'Whitmore, official assignee, Birmingham ; Parker, Boswell-court, Lon don ; Powell, Birmingham. DIVIDENDS DECLARED. W. Robertson, insurance broker, Great St. Helen's—first dig•. of 11d. in the pound, April 5, and three following Satur days, at the office of Mr. Groom, Abchurch-lane. J. L. Gray, tailor, Jermyn-street, St. James's—second div. of 10d. in the pound, April 5, and three following Saturdays, at the office of Mr. Groom, Abchurch- lane. J. Richards, livery-stable keeper, Oxford-street—first div. of 3s. in the pound, April 5, and three following Saturdays, at the office of Mr. Groom, Abchurch lane. DIVIDENDS. At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street. J. Bohn, bookseller, King William-street, April 25, at eleven—F. B. and W. Stacey, warehousemen, Lawrence lane, Cheapside, April 25, at half-past eleven. In the Country. J. T. Nash and J. Tomlinson, jun., mustard manufacturers, York, April 25, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court—H. Lewis, cabinet-maker, llaverfordwe.st, May 1, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court—T. Berridge, tobacconist, Man chester, April 25, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court—C. Evans, banker, Manchester, April 30, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court—R. Greenwood, bookseller, Bradford, April 29, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court—J. Crisp, auctioneer. Liverpool, April 25 ' at eleven, at the Liver p:l;orml Dinisgthraicmt C u o i u s r t t— rit T e . , C ni o rt le . man, J. Morris, J. B. Morris, and T . Morris, bankers L eom i nster , May 1, at eleven, at the CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be shown to the contrary, on the day ' herein mentioned. T. Browning, inn keeper, pR. ianoforte S m i t h, cmhaa wa r eh o usemen,nu manufacturer, ur erPe,r ;Tß ?ld Bailey, April 15—W. and share goe w i lan e , April 25—W. Dettmer, Mavlebone• street, April 25 Brideson, cheesemonger,Clare• S e t ; akefield, April 25—A. Harwar, pianoforte manufa cturer , Clare-market, April 25 it,lll3rer, Charlotte street, Bloomsbury, April 25-11. R. Stntc e dealer in curiosi ties, Theobald's-road, Bedford-row, Apri l W. Sharp and J. H u t c hi nson, common b ewe PA RTNERSHIPS DISSOL VED_ Pudsey, Yorkshire—F. W. Tomlinson an d W. Keary, r dttto rney , l / 2 Stoke-upon-Trent, Staff or d s hi re —S . Perkes an commission agents, Liverp oo l—G . R . Richardson Barton, and j Midglev, drapers, Hull—H. J. B owen an d D . Lloyd, sur geons, lreenwlch—G. Overton and J. Langley, car pent ers, Kirton, Lincolnshire...S. and E. F. Satterthwaite, aner Kilnchester—J. Lewis and J. Turpin, timber merchanntB4 Brighton—J. Mackarell, sen., T. Maekarell, an d J. Macke rel], jun., joiners, Liverpool—. Wilson and H. Harris, coal merchants, Covent —R. Taylor and R. Taylor, jun. , drapers, Bristol—J. Beynon awl J. P. Lowther, ship b ro k ers, Newport, Monmouthshire—J. Kianyou asp.l J. Shepherd, butter merchants, Rochdale, Lancashire—J. eattley, S. Cattiey, I. Carr, and J. G. Cattley, Moorgate-street Kso far as regards S. W, 4's , ttle7)—R. Jusland and J. Baker, drapers, Zxoter. SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. Duncan M'Corkindale, and Co., merchants, Glasgow, April 10 and May 15, at one, at the Black Bull Inn, Glasgow. Douglas Swan, boot maker, Edinburgh, April 8 and 29, at one, at the chambers of J. Gardiner, Edinburgh. David M‘Nlven, chemist, Glasgow. April 9 and 30, at one, at the chambers of W. Burns, Glasgow. PRICE OF SUGAR. the Rocky Mountains and the Pacific! beg your Lordships to mark this—should for a term of ten trs be free to both coun tries. Another convention was ma .lonfirming this for an indefinite period, to be determined athe will of either party ; and yet the President of the UnitoLtates in the very first act of his administration has thght himself justified in announcing to the people of the Und States that it is the duty of the Government to maAin their right to the country westward of the Rocky ountains, and between those mountains and the Pacific ; thrtheir title to the Oregon territory is clear and unquestionableand that the people are about to perfect that title by proceesg with their wives and children to occupy the country ; that is the duty of the Go vernment to afford them adequate ptection—to extend the benefit of American laws and of reptlican institutions to this distant country which they had selted fur their home, and which with the increased facilities (communication will soon be brought within the sphere of ti Federal Union. I re joice, my Lords, to think, that the 'tole question is viewed in a very different spirit here ; that we re ac t ua ted by no anxiety for territorial possessions, but by a sbere desire for peace, and by a most friendly feeling towards ti American nation. So far as lam acquainted with the ecumstances, 1 believe no assertion has ever been made that ouown case is free from all doubt, and I am sure we shill realy concede what can be justly claimed by America : liOn thither hand, I am equally sure that the people of Ibis countrjwill not give up their unquestionable rights, either to encrichment, to clamour, or to menace ; and though I doubt nothat my Noble Friend will use his utmost endeavours to bring t o question to an amicable and satisfactory issue, yet if his eflos should unfcrtunatel3 fail, I trust that her Majesty's Gvernment will not shrink from adopting that course sshich it ray be necessary to pursue in order to vindicate the nation's haour, or to uphold the na tion's interests.—( Hear, hear.) The Average Price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, for the week ending, April 1, 18-15,' is 30s. B%cl. per cwt., exclusive of the Duties of Customs paid or payable thereon on the im portation thereof into Great Britain. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, April 4. The House met at the usual hour. IRISH CONSTABULARY.—SANITARY REGULATIONS. The Maquis of NORMANBY gave notice that he would, on Monday next, move for a return of the appointment of the coratabulary from the Ist of May, 1838, to the present time. He would on the same day also present a petition from the Mayor and town council of Kilkenny, in the county of Lein3ter on the subject of sanitary regulations in towns. The Noble Marquis also gave notice that he would put a ques tion on the same day, in order to ascertain how soon the Go vernment Bill on this subject would be introduced before the House. HILL-COOLIES—SUNDAY TRADING—LOCAL RATES. The NOBLE MARQUIS also presented a petition, numerously signed, from the town of Leeds against the introduction of bill• coolies into Jamaica ; also petitions from Yorkshire against the opening of public-houses on Sunday ; also a petition from the Mayor and Town- Council of Cork, praying that instead of the grand jury, they should have some other tribunal for the settlement of local rights. THE WELSH BISHOPRICS. The Earl of ABERDEEN—I tink it is perfectly natural that, in such a conjuncture as thepresent, the Noble Lord may reasonably expect to receive itch information from her Majesty's Government as they, in to discharge of their duty, may feel it possible to give. I ate far from objecting to the course of putting questions to th Government upon any matter of public importance, and crtainly not on one of such paramount interest as this. My Lrds, if I followed my own inclination in this matter, I should at once be disposed to lay on the table of the House every pat of the negotiation which has taken place upon this subjet from the period of the treaty of Washington up to the preent day. I am sure that if I did so I should not only ieceive from the candour at opinion approving th e course of m which my Noble pursued,but might fairly appeal to the public at large, and even to t ie w h o l e o f E urope f or i ts Friendas been opposite confirmation. A time may come when such a course may possibly be necessary. At present it would clearly be un suitable and impolitic. I could wsh for an opportunity to explain a little snore at length tie state of this question, as affects the interests and the clahl of this country to the disputed territory. The Noble Lcrel has cursorily described the claims of this country and of tie United States with suf ficient accuracy, as far as he has g 0... Tti.. 7 , 1....ie....5e, would WHIM of a much more detailed examination, and, although I might now enter into that examination without injury to the public service, I feel that I could not do it without inconveni ence to your Lordships, and this also I think it better to de fer to a future occasion. I shall therefore only address myself to the inquiry of my Noble Friend. I wish to state that the negotiation which has taken place, and which is still pending, upon this subject was commenced immediately after the sign ing of the treaty by my Noble Friend near me. Without, of course, explaining to your Lordships any of the steps that have been taken in the progress of that negotiation, I wish to draw your attention to the last act of the late President, before his resignation of office. The Senate of the United States having addressed Mr. Tyler so long ago as the month of December, requesting him to communicate with them and inform them as to the progress of this negotiation, Mr. Tyler, in his answer, which was not delivered until Feb. 19, states,—" In my opinion. as this negotiation is still pending, the information sought for cannot be communicated without prejudice to the public service, but I deem it proper to add, that considerable progress has been made in the negotiation, which has been carried on in a very amicable spirit between the two Governments, and that there is reason to hope that it may be Drought to a close withit a short period. I have delayed answering the resoluti yn of the Senate, under the expectation expressed in my annual message. that the negotiation would be terminated before the else of the present session, and that the information called for by that resolution aught be communicated." lam bound to say that I thick the late President took somewhat too favourable a view of the s ate of the negotiation when he made that answer to the Senate. At the same time, as an indication of a friendly feel ing, and of a desire to bring it to an amicable termination, such a eectaration of opinion must be highly sari-factory. My Leeds, in a fortnight er the delivery of this answer to the address the Senate, the new Pr,sident made the inaugural speech re ferret' to by my Noble Friend. I wish to observe that this speech is not an address made to Congress—it is a speech made to the public. The Congress not being sitting. no speech of the kind could be made by the President of the United States without drawing towards it the most serious attention. Nevertheless, it does not possess the importance of an of f icial document, nor can it be regarded as forming part of legislative proceedings. Ido not undervalue its im portance ; but I must observe, that it has not quite the cha racter of an address made to the Congress as the foundation o' any legislative measure. I have already mentioned that that declaration of the late President is the last act of which we have any knowledge as far as the negotiation is concerned. The new President had no Ministry at the time he made his speech. His Administration was not formed, and no communication had taken place between her Majesty's Ministers and any Go vernment of the United States since the resignation of the late President and of his Administration. We therefore stand precisely in the position in which we stood at the time of the _ . The B:shop of BANGOR presented several petitions from places in Wales praying for a repeal of the Act uniting the bishoprics of Bangor and St. Asaph. INCOME-TAX.—IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from a house owner in the district of St. John's-wood, complaining of the oppressive operation of certain parts of the Income-tax Bill. The Noble Lord also presented a petition from tradesmen against the administration of the Act passed last year abolish• ing imprisonment for debts under 201. The petitioners did not object to the abolition of imprisonment, but they complained that creditors had not an adequate remedy. PUNISHMENT OF PAUPERS FOR NON-PAYMENT OF POOR-RATES. Lord BROUGHAM had two petitions to present respecting most unjust and cruel imprisonment of two paupers, not for the mere non-payment of poor-rates, but for the non•payment of charges in the magistrates' office. Thomas Lukin and Ann Ward were sentenced by the " insane magistrates" of Leicester for non payment of poor-rates—the one pauper in the amount of ss. 4d_, *ad tit° othvt iii the amount 01 Os. 71°. some humane person paid the amount of rate due by Ann Ward, but those " insane magistrates" committed her for the costs, in the amount of 205., which was four times the amount of her debt, when, being evidently unable to pay these smaller sums, they were plainly unable to pay the larger sum of 20s. They had stated their utter inability to pay the ss. and the 35., and when having thus shown their inability they were, against all law and reason, sent to prison for a month with hard labour, a punishment which could be inflicted on no man in this country, without a man had committed some crime of so infamous a character as to take it out of the common class of misdemeanours. This was the first time that ever he had heard that debt was to be treated by the laws of England as a crime. He was aware that there was an Act, the Act of the 18th George HI. c. 19, by which a power was given to magistrates to commit anyone to prison for one month for the non payment of the costs which had been awarded to an injured party. But in this case all such power had been exceeded ; and when these persons declared their poverty—when they had stated their inability to pay the ss. 4d in the first instance, they had, in the exercise of their power, committed them to prison. Those magistrates might have acted discreetly, they might have acted legally, nay, he would even go so far as to allow that, deep as the sarcasm might appear, they might even have acted humanely. Of their conduct in the mere committal he would riot complain, but there was one thing of which he did complain, one thing which he would confide not to their Lordships, but to his noble Friend on the Woolsack, and that was the committal without a hearing. He understood that those magistrates were highly respectable individuals. but he would tell them—he would tell any man— he would tell every man, that no respec'ability, however great, could place any man so high, be he lawman or l,e he layman, as to lift him above the law. He must do his Right Hon. Friend the Secretary of the Home Department the jCl3' iCe to say, that as soon as the matter was men tioned to him, he immediately relieved these men from their imprisonment. But he thought that something more than this was required, and he would leave it to his Noble Friend on the woolsack to say whether such men as those were fit to be left in the administration of justice in this country. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that if, after inquiry, he found the conduct of these magistrates was such as it had been represented, that he should feel it his duty to remove them from the Commission of the Peace. The Duke of RICHMOND said that inquiry ought also to be made to see if there was not some remedy for the injustice they had suffered, and if not, the sooner the law was altered the better. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that, in a case of in justice by a magistrate, the injured party was entitled to remedy by an action. The Earl of CLARE presented a petition from the parochial schoolmasters of the parish of Auchterarder, in Perthshire, praying for an increased remuneration. THE OREGON TERRITORY. answer of the late President, with the exception of such a character as the relations may have received from the speech pronounced upon his inaugurotion by the new President. My Lords, I wish also to state, that our position is precisely such as it has been for the last eighteen years with respect to our rights, and the treaty which was ma de in 1827 renewing or rather continuing the treaty of 1818, which was for ten years. The treaty of 1827 continued that treaty for an indefinite period, but with the provision that either party might terminate it by a year's notice. There is nothing whatever to prevent the Government of the United States or her Majesty's Government, if they thought proper, from terminating that treaty of 1827 by giving a year's notice for the purpose, which, however, the seyeet s notice being President has not said he means to give ; but if he does mean it he cannot effect his purpose without a vote of the Congress authorising him to do 30 ; the Congress will not meet unless specially ca tosrether „..se awn toe time at wine the President receives the neces sary authority to give such notice. Your Lordships will see, therefore, that in point of time, the matter is not so urgent as might be supposed. I need not say, that her Majesty's Go vernment will continue to avail themselves of the intervening period which may exist, in the hope of bringing the negotiation which is still pending to an amicable conclusion. The ne gotiation was founded upon the principle of an amicable ad justment by the mutual concession of extreme claims on both sides, and on that principle it will be continued. My Noble Friend has by no means expressed any censure of the mode of proceeding that her Majesty's Government have adopted in this matter ; at the same time I have seen in other places some intimation, some apprehension of too great concessions, of a total abandonment of what is called " the high tone ;" altogether, I am accustomed almost daily to see myself characterised as pusillanimous, cowardly, mean, das tardly, truckling, base.—( A laugh.) I hope I need not say that I view these appellations with indifference, I view them, indeed, really with satisfaction; because I know perfectly well what they mean and how they ought to be and are translated. I feel perfectly satisfied that these vituperative terms are trans lated as applicable to conduct consistent with justice, reason, moderation, and with common sense , and I theref o r e f ee l, as I said before really not indifferent , but positively sa ti s fi e d , when I see s u c h observations. — ( Loud cheer s . ) I b el i eve I s m t itn wh i ch y say,the honour unworthily to h old who felt t hat no man ever fil e d the high situ more ardently desirous than I d o to preserve to the country the blessings of peace, or who would be di sposed to make greater sacrifices to maintain it.—( Cheers.) My Lords, I consider war to be the grea test lo lly , if not the giearest there s the arelimits which must not be passed ; and I say that wi:hout attachin g crime, of which a country could be guilty. if lightly entered into; and I agree with an hon. writer who said, that it a proof were wanted of the deep and tho r ough corruptien of hu man nature, we should find it in the fact that war itself w as some times I : j st y' s to duty,Government and I am sure preserve titirniess ltahwe p f e u a li c n— e c - i(i nL a a t otu t i o he s Loud cheers. ) - h a e om e f re tmere s. g to much weight to questions of honour, for I think, fortunately for this country, th a t we need not be very sensitive on these matters— it is not for us, God knows, to seek the " bubble reputation at the cannon's mouth," or anywhere else ; our power, our cha ranter and position are suet' as to enable us to leek with in difference on that of which other count riesenight be perhaps more jealous—i Cheers) —but our honour is substantially property that we can certainly never neglect, and most assuredly we may owe it to ourselves and to our posterity to adept a course contrary to all our desires—to all our inclinations. My Lords, from what I have said your Lordships will perceive an earnest of the spirit of peace which shall pervade this matter, if I con tinue to conduct this negotiation ; and I cannot bring myself to think that at this day any civilised Government would de sire to see any other course pursued ; and I hope, therefore, and fully believe, that we shall have the happiness of seeing this important question brought to a satisfactory and amicable eoneluston.—(Lovd cheers.) Should it be otherwise, I can Only say that we possess rights whioh, in our opinion, are clear and unquestionable, and, by the blessing of God, and with pour sup ort, those rights we are fully prepared to main tain.—( The Noble Earl resumed his seat amidst loud and general applause.) BASTARDY-LAW AMENDMENT BILL. On the motion of Lord STANLEY, the order for the Com mittee on this Bill, which stood for to.elay, was discharged, and Monday next was appointed in its stead. The Duke of RICHMOND said that as it was impossible for the appeals of those parties who were aggrieved under this Bill to be heard at the he trustedth at some quarter sessions, some provision would be made for the pay ment of their expenses. The Earl of CLARENDON—I yesterday, my Lords, gave notice of my intention to call your Lordships' attention to the subject of the Oregon territory, in terms which, I fear, have given rise to a misapprehensiou—nnt because I propose to enter into the subject or to occupy your Lordships' attention at any length of time, but because it appeared some time ago to be the wish of the House, in consequence of a suggestion from the Noble Duke, that the practice of putting questions to the Go vernment in speeches which did not conclude with a distinct motion should be abandoned. I have no wish to interfere with any rule your Lordships may make upon the su bj ec t. alo from simple mod e o f obtain -ugj h may . be romfaetsi m the Government w hi c h your Lord ships j ustified sonl in asking and the p u bli c h ave a r i g h t L u cn to expect, whether documents or correspondence may or may not exist, the production of which, if they do exist, may or may not be refused. Nevertheless, if my Noble Friend should prefer, in conformity with what appears to be the rule of this House, to lay the papers in this case upon the table of this House, I have no objection. But, whatever course is pur sued, I am sure your Lordships feel that we should not be per forming our duty if we neglect this opportunity of noticing the inaugural address of the President of the United States, and asking from the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs such information as he may think it consistent with his duty to afford, respecting that portion of the address which has a direct and immediate bearing upon Britisb in terests. With respect to the annexation of Texas, which is mentioned in this speech of the President, as it may be said to bear remotely upon British interests, and as our rights in a case so unprecedented, as well as the obli gations contracted by Texas towards us, may not be clearly defined or understood, I shall not trouble your Lordships upon this occasion beyond the expression of my surprise and regret that a body of men so talented and so just as ordinarily composes the Senate of the United States, should have given their sanction to a measure which has been brought about by such means, which will be so deeply in jurious to the cause of humanity, and which may, at no distant time, endanger the peaceful relations of the United States with our country, by affording to the restless and encroaching people of Texas an opportunity of gratifying their tastes for esta blishing a boundary quarrel, and thus creating a cause of wir with Mexico, which must be view e d w ith i nterest i n every quarter o f the world. But it is the Oregon territory with which we are immediately connected, and it is most important to know in what position we are to stand in reference to that territory, and what course her Majesty's Government are pre pared to adopt under circumstances which seem but too pro bable from the extraordinary language of the President's address, and from what I may call the studied neglect of that courtesy arid deferential language which Governments are wont to observe when publicly treating upon international affairs. It is almost impo s sible to believe that any other country but Americn is interested in the pending negotia tions, if we are to draw from the President's speech the in ference which naturally suggests itself—for not only does he make no reference to any other country or negotiation, hut distinctly informs the United States that their claim to the Oregon territory is clear and unquestionable. Conse quently, my Lords, I do not see on what grounds he could jus tify his Government in consenting to a negotiation at all upon a question which admits of no doubt, because the citizens of the United States, whatever predilection they may have to enter into a treaty for what is not their own, have never exhi bited any great desire to give up that to which they have an unquestionable right. Therefore, if the President were to con. sent, it would seem that it could only be upon the basis of an unconditional surrender by England of whatever was claimed by the United States. In fact, my Lords, the whole question j 5 treated as completely settled ; as if all negotiations were concluded, or had never been commenced at all. lam sure that is the only inference which it is possible for persons igno rant of the circumstances—and a great majority of the people of this country are ignorant of them—to draw front the Presi • dent's speech. On the other hand, it is so impossible for us to believe that the question has been neglected by her . Majesty's Government, knowing as they do its importance, and the great and growing excitement which has prevailed for some time past in the United States—l say it is so impossible for us to believe that they would not live used their endeavours to bring about an amicable and satisfactory adjustment of it, that I am sure my Noble Friend will be desirous, either by reply to me or by the pro. duction of such papers as he may think fit, to satisfy the people of England that their rights have not been abandoned, or their cause neglected. Both with respect to the past and future, I think the public are entitled to this information, and it is for the purpose of obtaining it, and thereby satisfying the great and natural anxiety that prevails upon the subject, that I take the liberty of thus trespassing our your Lordships' time. I do not think this a fitting opportunity for discussing the justice of the claims of this country to the Oregon territory. I will, however, say a few words upon it, in order to render more intelligible the character and extent of the President's assumption. In the first place, my Lords, if priority of dis covery could constitute title, our claim would be unquestion able—for Sir F. Drake, when he first visited that country in 1558, found all the land unappropriated, and rook possession of it, giving it the title of New Albion. Ido not mean to say that this constitutes a claim, but owing subsequently to a seizure of British vessels at Nootka, and to a dispute which arose in consequence, it was arranged by the treaty of the Escurial that the subjects of the contracting parties should not be molested in fishing and making settlements in parts not hitherto occupied. In 1791 the country adjacent to the Columbia river was taken possession of by Cooke, and was explored in !813 by the North-Western Company, now called the Hudson's flay Company, who established them selves in Port St. George, under the government of Bri tish laws, continuing to the present day, and being the first establishment in that country of a lawful and national character, and recognised as such by foreign nations. Now, the claim of the American Government derives its origin from the sale of Louisiana by Napoleon in 18')3. Nevertheless, the boundaries had been distinctly described in 1712, in the reign of Louis XIV., and in those treaties with the United States, which h a d f or t h e i r o bj es t t o d e fi ne th e boundaries of Louisiana, reference w as ma d e to an un d e fi ne d li n e running through to the Pacific, having no precise boundary north or east; but in the treaty between Spain and the United States in 1818, called the Fl or id a treaty, this undefined line was defined, and made to run from the Rocky Mountains to the Pacific in the parallel of latitude 42 degrees. Stain celed to the United States all the territory north of that boundary. America then contended a right to it. although we f w oe that we bad no right to the territory north of the parallel latitude of 42 degrees, and that no other e, • t- than Sp ain bad by which 3 . 91114 WI% pq2. 1 , 1 4 181 41 a convention rn s e i rttake i n n pO Y ssesSionnf it, in ~ north boundary line was and the ei44 otgo, by wh. theh gned" between this eountty Axed, and ifecl t44t t•hs cnnqtri Oeticep INCO AX- The Earl o f RIPO N, in r i sing to move the second read ing of this Bill, said it had been his lot in 1/342 to pro pose an Act to their Lordships for the imposition of a tax upon income. He deemed it then a duty on behalf of her Majesty's Government to e n t er i nto considerable detail to show the upon the p resent occasion. But he was reasons why th e y p roposed it. He did not conceive it was to go to th e same extent and variety of explanation a ware that some means were ne cessary to i nduce their Lordships to continue that tax thre e y ears l onger. It was not now requisite to enter into any l engt h ened argument to prove that it was unwise and inexpedient t o con d uct the business of the country with a de ficient revenue. He had on a previous occasion gone into that subject,at some censideraLla length. The income-tax, thus showing that it was the only measure which they deemed calculated to supply the deficiency i n the revenue.—( Hear, hear.) It would be necessary for hint to state, first, what the condition of the revenue was before the ta x House passed the was passe'', as compared with the revenue during the succeeding years. The tax their Lordships were aware, was passed i n 1842 , i n which year revenue to th e amount of 2.139,000/. On the sth of April, 1843, they h a d rea li sed no surplus ; but in 1814, when they had four co m pl ete quarters, the tax produced to Government the sum of 5,356,0004 giving there was a deficiency in the a surplus of 2,750,000/. in the course of the preceding year. If they did not renew this tax, what would be the state of the 'mike Exchequer in 1846 ? In the year ending the sth April, 1846, the estimated expendi ture of the country would be 4 9,643,0. 0/., including all the supplies voted for the use of the army and navy. The ordi nary revenue of the country, supposin e they did not renew the income-tax, would, amount to 47,900,000/., so that al.r would be a deficiency in 1841; of 1,740; 00/. Against that sum there was to be set two quarter receipts from the property-tax, which would amount to 2,600,0004 There would al,o be a sum of 600,0901. which they I expected to receive in the course of the prevent year I from China. If, howev er , t h ey added these sums to the ordi- I nary revenue of April 1846, there would be a surplus, sup posing no change took place, of 1 ,200,0001. Bat from what he had stated it vr , turi be seen that that surplus would entirely be owing to the amount to be deduced for the income-tax in t he course of the pre ent year, and the 600,000:, to conic trim China,consequently in the f o ll ow i ng year. supooSing" the pro., perty ta x to diScontinue, and there was an erase In the &dinars , receipts of the 9nuutre or a Considerable Rfsll- i ttj t m in th e Alic elpenditure, ,that they woad And the ' extranrdinary in- e t same deficiency in the revenue in 1847, which existed in 1842. The effect of renewing this tax would he to give the public exchequer in April 1846, a !mesh'. revenue of 4,560,000/ , which would enable the Government now to remove certain burdens, which at the present moment pressed with great severity upon the prosperity of the country. They proposed to remove all duties imposed on raw materials, with thPexception of timber, and they did so with the view of enabling the British manufacturer to compete with foreigners ateerad. The Noble Lord then went through the various articles upon which the duty is to be taken off. commenting as he went along upon those which he thought most important. In respect to glass, it might he asked why they did not choose soap in stead of this article; but, for his part, he confessed they could not well do without the amount of duty levied on soap, while the removal of the duty on glass would open a wide field for the operation of the manufactures of the country. The amount of duty proposed to be taken off was 6,000/. Then came the ar ticle of cotton wool, the duty upon which amounts to 650,000/, This they proposed to take off, as well as to make a reduction in the duty o; sugar to the extent of 130,0001. This would undoubtedly reduce the price of sugar, and place it within the reach of those who had never been able to enjoy it before. These, and other reductions, when deducted from the 4,000,000/. would still leave a surplus of 890,000/. It might be objected that these reductions would result in making these imposts permanent taxes, but he thought the experience of the past justified the belief that the commercial affairs of the country would be so improved as to enable them to discor.tinue the tax at the end of three years. If they looked back they would find that not only had the national debt been reduced, within the last three years, front 29,452,000/. to 28,365,000/. but that the value of our imposts h d increased by no less than 5,895,000/. Now, all this convinced him that at the end of three years they would be in e position to dispense with both the income and property-tax. The pros pect of commercial prosperity was such, if they might judge of the steady progress of the last few years, as to bear them out in the supposition they had just expressed. Without referring to the two great subjects of reduetion further, and for a moment only touching upon wool and timber, he would lay before the House a few statements of what might be considered the minor articles which had been affected by the reduction of 184:1 The first he would take was coffee, and be would state the gradual increase which had been experienced in the consumption of that article during the lest five years. In 1840, the consump tion had been, according to the Cus'otn-house reports, 28,664,00011e5. ; for 1841, it was 28,370,000 lbs, ; for 1842, 28,593,0001b5. In 1843, 29,979,0001b5. In 1844, 31,294,000 lbs. Showing an increase of upwards of 2,700,0001ba. And be would observe, that in 1g42 the greatest quantity of coffee had been consumed which had ever been known during any pre vious period. There was another article, which perhaps many of their Lordships had never yet seen—(A laugh)—but he had had an opportunity of not only seeing, but using it, and had found it both nutritious and palatable, he meant chiccory. Their Lordships might smile, but it was well known that in France coffee was seldom used without a dash of chiccory. He did not mean to say, that the coffee might not be as well without it, but the introduction of chiccory reduced the expense, and did not in the least degree affect the aroma. The introduction of ebiecnry in 1840 was 1,440,000 lbs. ; in 1841, 1,921,000 lbs. ; in 1842, 2,268,000 lbs. ; in 1843, 2,448,000 lbs, ; and in 1844, 3,164,000 lbs. Cocoa also, which was an article of much request in some ranks of society, had in, creased 2,596,0001b5. within the last five years. New it might be supposed that the increase of these articles might have been made at the expense of tea, which was used fur si milar purposes as the articles he had just named. But what was the fact ? In 1840 the quantity of tea introduced was 32,25 0 ,000 lbs. In 1841, 36.675,0001b5. In 1842, 37,353,0001b5. In 1843. 40,293,0001b5.; and in 1844, 41,366,0001b5., showing an in crease in 1845 of no less than 4.7'22 0001bs., since- the time that the reduction took place, and not less then one-fourth of the whole quantity that had been computed, if ths whole five were to be taken into consideration. As might naturally be expected, there had been a corresponding increase in the can. sumption of sugar. Not only had the comfort of the people been added to, but there had been a great advantage ob. ained in obviating the adulteration of this article, which had been long effected by all sorts of articles. It shou'd be remembered that this was an increase in consumption, accompanied by no arti fice, without any undue extension of the currency, and indeed in the face of a law which had been passed for restraining t e amount, and which had effectually secured it from any deitre eietion in its value. It was evident, therefore, that tc!is was a solid increase, and that they might rely—and they 'might safely rely—on the increase of the Customs' duties for enabling them 'o do away, at the end ef three years, with this obj tctinnsble end most ungracious tax. He, therefore, thought he might safely call upon their Lordships to consent to the third reading of the Bill. On the motion that the Pill be read a third time, The Marquis of L A NSDOWNE said there were three -easons whic'e weul•l justify the imposition of ate income-tax— ha existence anti long continuance of a formidable war, the .tell greater importance of inter ice commotion and civil broil, and the third, a defieiency in the revenue, which they had ne ether means to supply. It was on the first of these reasons that 111 r. Pitt, Lord Grenville, and Lord Seymour, had intro duced it. It was on the third that Sir Robert Peel had pro :rosed it to Parliament in 1842. He saw no reason to hope, even from the statement of his Noble Friend, that they would be able to !emit the tax at the end of the three years. He feared, indeed, there was some ulterior reason fir the proposi tion of the tax, and that it was intended to substitute this system of taxation for that indirect mode which had hitherto prevailed. He found, upon the statement of the Government, that the revenue, with the arrears of the property-tax, would be fifty nine millions. He disclaimed any desire to stint the public service of the country. He did not complain of the increase of estimates for the public service. He would be still le-s dis posed to refuse any grant of public money far the support of that arm of the public service, the navy. There was a pro position of the Government which gave him unqualified plea sure—that was the increased grant for the education of the Catholic priesthood in Ireland. He looked with entire satis faction upon the measures which the Government had adopted to release industry. Still, as he thought, Ministers ought to be sincere in their declaration that the property-tax was only temporary, they should at the same time take measures which would enable them to repeal it. One of the great objections of the present Prime Minister to the repeal of the malt-tax was, that it would lead to the imposition of a property-tax in time of peace. In seven years afterwards the same Right Hon. Baronet, being at the head of the most powerful party in the country, declared that he would not attempt to make up the deficiency of the revenue by the imposition of a property-tax. He did not agree with the Prime Minister in thinking that there were not other means by which the deficiageLesV ii ty , , made u p K;ni,t opposite, that there were persons who called themselves " philosophers," and who " liked " this tax on account of its equality. But he would ask their Lordships could they imagine anything more unequal than the operation of this tax ? The tax was imposed upon persons whose income depended almost entirely upon their state of health. Was it just to subject them to the same amount of taxation as persons who derived their income from fixed property? Again, if he came to the funds, he might ask were all the persons who had pro perty in the funds to be dealt with alike ? The mere fact that a certain amount of property stood in a man's name in the books at the bank was not sufficient to show that he enjoyed that property. So also was it with respect to landed property. The declared income of a man from landed property was not a fair index of his means of paying taxes.--( Hear, hear.) He would not deny that in direct taxation there was this advantage, that every man would know what he was contributing to the necessities of the State. But the difficulties in the way of justly apportioning an income-'ax were not to be obviated by any scheme which he had ever heard propounded. H. would not propose the entire rejection of the Bill, which, however, he looked upon, after all, s a Bill for ultimately taxing labour ; but he hoped their Lordships would modify its pressure. He would not object so strongly to the Bill, as a temporary measure, if he saw it accomeaseed by other measures which would enable the Government to des pense with it at the end of three years.—( Hear.) It had been said that this tax was popul ir. Hut there had been no proof that it was popular except with those who had not to pay it.— ( Hear, and a laugh.) He did not believe that the country would le reconciled to the tax, and he hoped that Parliame n t ' would find the m eans o f i n d uc i ng the Government to abandon it at the end of three years. Lord ASfe RUA ros said that the present discussi on af ford d him an • pportunity of stating the grounds upon which hehal the misfortune to differ with the must prominent mem bers of both parties in Parliament and the ceuntry. He, how ever, agreed with the Noble Lord who had just sat down in condemning the income-tax as a permanent impost. lie re ferred to a passage in the books of NB-. MtCulloch, in which that eeenomic philosopher had shown that it would be great in justice to subject income from land to a peculiar tax, as that would be a bar to al! improvement. Capital was the chief in gredient in the improvement of a nation, and any tax upon ca pital—whether that capital was represented la ) land or by raw material of any other kind—or engaged in commerce—was inevitably a check upon improvement. He agreed with the Noble Lord opposite, that a tax upon income should only be resorted to in times of great emergency. —( Hear, hear.) In the whole of the financial arrangemerts of the Government the great matter which he regi etted was their inattention to the debt of the country. That was the great incubus upon the ineustry of the country. Surly it should have been the duty of the Government—of every succeed ing Government—to relieve the country from that heavy weight. Whilst the debt remained in its present amount, what resource would the country have if a war arose ? Nothing cold be d one but b o r row.—( H ear, and a laugh.) The country only d o as F a l s t a ff did in t h e tavern— " score up." For his part he should never feel comfortable unless he saw some tax imposed for the purpose of grappling with the debt. That was a comfort which, at his time of life, he could scarcely hope to enjoy.—( A laugh.) He had. however, great happiness in saying that, in th e w h o l e course o f h islong life, he had never seen the country in a happier state of quiet and comfort. There was not a speck in the horizon, except in the small territory of Oregon. —( A laugh.) Yet, he could not but express his regret that nothing was done to get rid of the debt. He would not deny that the sinking fund had failed to a great extent of its object, but it ought t o h ave b een susta i ned as a means of reducing the amount of the debt, and of facilitating the system of borrowing if a reso.l to that system s h ou ld b ecome necessary. This was, a year of unexampled prosperity Nothing could be a great er mistake than to su pp ose t h a t t h e l aws of any Government can r prevent those alterations which will assuredly ever he experi enced in commercial .affairs. With respect to the batik'hg measures for which his Noble Friend had taken so mue h he thought th a t th ey m i g h t poss ib ly have done no h ere his great o bj ec ti on was to t h e di sposal of the etutpl a u r sTa' e d l3 l l , l thought the better plan would be t o preveqt en ' y Sgepl ea at ae f per. Lord STANLEY said that he thought that his Noble Friend had hardly done justice to the efforts which had beep made by her Majesty's Government had complained that his Right HO'llsQUNralbti: IfFrrileenndd at the head of the Treasury had made dul relief for the pressure of the debt. It might be true that no actual re duction in the amount of the debt had made place, but the in terest of the debt in 18`28 was upwardsndhereeh wasthere w equal to 32,000,000/ „ an d 4s now it was o n ly 28,000,000/. ; a tion of n o t l ess t h an 4,000,000/ , reduc whi than 1,000,000/. Y et this was opt tit all, f or b y a burdainenntwlietss h which th e y h a d sa d d l ed themselves now for the benefit of the future, in 1854, by the cessation of the t erm i na bl e annuities, there wou ld b e a reduction of above 65 0 ,0001 in the annual interest. In 1864 there would be a reduction fur ther by the cessation of the lo o n n g id an b nuitie s of above 1.2ft0 000/. a year ; and is, 1865 there w of above 200,00N.a a still further ree t uction a year, and he thought that this was a re duction which went very ar re d uce the debt. But his Noble Friend had said that hg e e lad t4 noobjectio n to a surplus at ?resent, but he did object to the imposition o f th at t ax b y which the surp l us was created. Why it was a fact well known, that his Right Honoarable Friend at. the lead of the Government had clearly shown that, w i thout the income •tax. instead plus, ther e would, in 1846, absolutely beadefinf u i ciercy. s — ur (ll ear. ) It wss evident that a surplus of 3, .000 0001. or 4,000,000/. was neeessary. The Nei* Mg• c s QPl'asite objected to the im. Pelitien of this tax. becau said ad that he had an objection to titter imposition of this tax, set he wished that there shod(' be no deficiency, that they might not have to say, cs were up hostess." Why the very first object which tliste had in view in the imposition of f this tax w a s t;,. pea cad the scree which the Government, e Marquis was a member, haq run usu ry " e ie ttis t.n r e 2 l6 th i :y had not oils been Ale to pay off that se to the tune of 70e,e00/. I a tyeir, but at the sante timseototoirigaer:atnht.vely large relief to the c weierce of the coun•ry. Marauis so grievously cerepleisiect ofs to;, which the No6k ' enabled there crieas i e the conthmrieri; anii 4 the sara e s ro tuut, • ; check the nOUSE OF COMMONS, April 4. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. SECOND READINGS. The Newcastle-on-Tyne Coal Tura Shots Road Bill, the Gla.- 81:i, the Timm , — the criu, the Olasgnw and Bridges Bill, the York Road . - eaterworks Bill, the rt. Helen's Canal Bill, -‘. rtelen's Improvement Bill, the Blackburn Waterworks Bill, the Dublin an Drogheda Railway Bill, the Wolverhamp ton Waterworks Bill, ,the Enniskillen and Dundalk Railway smuggler by remitting duties, which raised the article of tea, r Bill, and the Harrogate and Ripon Junction Railway Bill, were for instance, to a price which induced the contraband teyerelly read a second time. introduction of it. The cousumesien of that ariicie had Mr. T. EU:. ren‘ine. gave mei: • leas re should. on the' increased fully cue-fourth within the last five years. Again, mot i on f or t h e third reading of the last of these Bids, mow if they took the arti c le of tobacco, they would find that the that it be rend a third time that day s'x moeths. reduction of the duty upon tobacco had led to a very large in- LIVERPOOL AND BURY RAILWAY. crease in the consum ,feen of the article. In 1842 the quantity I The Bill for this railway was brought is and read a first introduced was 3,448:001 , 1b5. ; in 1843 it was 3,605 0001bs. ; time, on th e motion of the Earl of LISTOWEL, and in 1844 it was 3,863,0001bs So that it appeared the im- SPARROWS HERNE ROAD. position of this tax had enabled them largely to relieve the The Bill for this road was read a third time and passed. trade of the country. They proposed no less a reduction than LOWESTOFT RAILWAY AND HARBOUR. 3,800,0001., and the Noble Lord himself had stated that a This Bill was read a mond time, and ordered to b e corn • better selection of articles on which to remit duty cou ld not b e m i tted. made than that they had adopted. In the price of sugar they had effected a larger reduction than was contemplated in the celebrated scheme of the Noble Lord opposite. He had not heard any one complain that the entire teductien of the duty on Wass had given a. great stimulus to the manufacture. H they had not taken the ditty off glass the manufacture would year by year have gradually decreased, and the duty upon it could not have been relied upon as a source of revenue- ;le had not heard, even in the daily papers or anYwh" else, still less in their Lordship's House, that the relief which they had 7 granted was cue which would 1106 I t7gely tend to promote the commerce of the country teed promote the con sumption and the comfort of the people.—( Hear. ) Another important tese whieh had been passed over by the Noble Lord '. - ersa the 600,0001, imposed on the importation of raw eetton, Was there a more objectionable tax than that? It pressed heavily on the manufacturer, and its removal had long been looked for by the country. Well, then, without the im position of an income-tax the Government cou'd never have ventured upon these important financial changes. It was said, that the tax w-a popular with those who did not pay it, but those who spoke in those terms forgot that all our former systems of taxation had reached their maximum, and those upon whom they were imposed were unable to bear them. Were the Government to blame, then, for removing the burden of the chief taxes to those who were well able to bear them ?—( Hear, hear.) The Noble Marquis had said that the property-tax was not nniy grossly unjust in principle but grossly unequal of its operation s Why, where could they find a tax which was not in enme respects unequal in its operation? All taxation rrlynt bear differently upon those who have - a permanent and those who hive only a temporary interest in property, and in these two instances he could hardly see how the tax could operate with any great degree of inequality. If the tax were raised now to remove a debt some tenor twenty years hence he should agree with the Noble Marquis in thinking it was partial and unjust to tax an annuitant, but where the tax was made to meet the current expenses of the current year, and levied upon the current income of an individual, he could not comprehend the argument which went to show that the tax was either unequal or partial in its operation. At all events, he should sit down convinced that a property-tax was the best and the most equitable which they could impose upon the nation, for removing what appeared to him to be a permanent deficiency in the revenue. Lord MONTEAGLE reminded their Lordships that, when the nati.mal debt was contracted, the assessed property of the country amounted to 56,000,000/. Since then it had increased to 186,0e0, , 00/. ; and they were now about to tax parties to meet the charges of a debt, from which those parties had never derived any interest.—(Hear.) He had heard many ingenious calculations, based upon the resources of this country, but he was convinced of this, the resourcea of the country had never been greater whether in a time of war or peace than they were now. He was inclined to praise some of the selections which the Government had made in the articles upon which they proposed to remove the duty. The article of glass was a very important one, and he had no doubt great benefits would result to the country from the re movel of the tax hitherto imposed upon it. But they were net to discuss a property-tax in a commercial point of view. It was in a financial point of view they must examine into it, and he must say, looking at it in this light, it was founded upon a fallacious and dangerous doctrine which was calculated to cause gnat mischief out of doors if not to jsopardise the peace of the country. There never was a more needless sacrifice of revenue than the giving up of the auction duties. The sacri fice hail not been called for. How could it be expected that the re, eal the excise duties would promote consumption so much as to compensate for the Losses to the revenue? The Go vernnaeet of a tut ore day would be compelled to yield to the demands of the country. He believed that the labstirers of the country were as much .ntereeted in opposing this tax as the richest and most fully endowed. When he com pared the estimates of the ytar le3n, under the same rime Minister, with the estimates of the present year, he coil'd not help stating that no good reason had been given ' for the increase. With respect to the sugar duties, he could see no reason for the measures of the Government. All the authorities , f any value upon the question, were aoainst the aigunients allsged by the Government in favour of its own measure. With reseect to sugar you lose a million and a had ; the President of tne Board of Trade stated the sum of two mill ons The very classification, the very system, was adeptee feint the paper prepared by Mr. Hume, which had been called a rigmarole paler. They lost by the timber ditties up wards of 600,0001., and by the sugar that which made up a loss of two millions and a half. The way in which they had dealt with corn had diminished their resources. In corn, sugar, and tit ber, there appeared to be a fatality ; and it seemed by the pamphlet which Air. Gladstone had written, that there was a reduction of one-half the amount of duty. He was quite prepared to discuss the question as one of ecouomteal science, and he thought that on that principle the Government had mistaken the course they ought to pursue. Lord ASHBURT‘ ,N said, his Noble Friend had not an swered his objection, for be thought the principle of a sinking fund, or that which was equivalent to a sinking fund, was the diminution of the principal, and not merely the in terest of a debt. The Duke of RICHMOND said that he did not object an much to the vote, as to the appropriation of the funds which are to be supplied by it. His Noble Friend had allotted, that he was totally ignorant of the nature of some of the items in the list of duties which he was prepared to 'reduce. Now, he thought, that if reduction were to be made, it ought to be made in some of the articles in which benefits would accrue to the agricultural interests.—( Hear.) But what did they do? They imposed a rate upon a farmer, so that if he had 300/. a year rent, they taxed him after the rate of obtaining 150/. profit—but what was the case? An in dividual who had last year had an interview with Sir Robert Peel, had stated that, in 1843, he had lost 600/., and in 1844 he had lost 700/. He was assured that the distress in the country had been occasioned by the measures of the last threes years. The Right Hon...lle2rst had - • 0R net the interest — wnti . be taken care I,ll — but' he wo u ld be grad to know wh a t would ld be the opinion now, if the country were called upon to express it. One thing surprised him, that every body talked against the Bill, but every one resolved to vote for it. This was very strange, • but still it was a fact, that without the tax they would not have the surplus which appeared requisite for the necessities of the country. Lord BROUGHAM complained that the debate had been a most weariso.rie one, and he thought it was a bad system to use so many figures in speaking of a subject like this. He had waited an hour and a half in anticipation of this debate, but they had heard all about everything but the precise point in question. It reminded him of an anecdote of a great states man, who had expended, like all other Chancellors and ex- Chancellors of the Exchequer;a great deal of labour in getting together a series of calculations, and he went to Lord Lauder dale, who advised him to throw his figures altogether over board, just as he would throw physic to the dogs. The Noble ex-Chancellor was, of course, in an agony of disappointment, but still the advice was good, and if it had been followed, it might have saved a goon deal e f the wearisomeness of this debate. He must say that, notwithstanding the objections to this tax, still he was prepared to vote for it, as he had • done in the first instance for the fist three years on the ground of necessity ; and in the second instance on the ground of something very like necessity. In the abstract, and indeed in practice, there were great objections to the impo sition of a property-tax, especially for a permanency. That there were objections also to in iirect taxes, he was perfectly aware ; any attempt to press upon the mean. of consumption must press upon the etjeyments of those classes to whom the comforts thus restricted were everything. Yet. notwiths end ing this. he still deemed it necessary to refute the supposition that this tax, or indeed, any direct tax, could fall equally rd prop, rty. It was one of the essential elements of preperty that it shoned be cies-yeah and he thought that when the idle ginat ien of his Nob'e Friend was 'teemed to be active, it would riot be a bed plan if he were to call his ju cement into his aid to renderhislucubrationsasusefulasthedetaitofth m was effective, He regretted that Mr. Pitt did net take, in the time of the war, long annuities, instead of contracting an almcnt lasting debt. If that had been done the entnitry would not new have been in such a condition as to render either an income or a property-tax necessary. Improvements might be introduced into the Bill ueder discussion, but he thought the country would bear the it convenience of the measure in its present state, fully relying upon the inteniion of Govern ment to discontinue it at the expiration of three years. '1 he country he was convinced would never object to an income tax in a time of war, or when large funds were required to de f -nd its honour. But God forbid that the present peace should be disturbed ; but knowing the frailty and vicissitudes of hu manity, he could not conceal from himself that a time might come when it might be necessary for the country in defence of its rights or its honour to resort to arms, and then he was satisfied the people would cheerfully pay hot onlyan income-tax, amounting t o th ree , b ut to ten per cant. He trusted that the sentiments he had sees in the President's message would be repudiated by the American people; but if they were not, he relied upon cd a British Government's adopt ing measures to vindicate the national honour, and they might depend upon England contributing a liberal income and pro perty-tax to aid them in doing so. Should, however, no extra ordinary steps be necessary, it was the duty of Government to n k e e c e e p ss t a h r e y ta to x c d o t r w o n in a u s e mitucaht a t s he po e ss z i l b ,i l r e a ; th e n nd o s f ho th u e ld f-, n d such modifications oug h t to b e introduced into it years, it less inq u i s it or i a l and less painful to the. .great would make body of th e people. The Marquis of NORMANIre.- had strong objections to the continuance of the propen e - et tax, because sanctioning it a second time looked ye:J.-fetich like making it a permanent tax. At the terminatio:: Of the Chinese war, it was held out to them that the increase it would occasion to the commerce of the country wonla 'nave the effect of removing the income and p ro pertve'raxes, and he could see no reason why this principle ebeeald not be now fulfilled. He did not think that the other deductions of taxation were equivalent to the increase of impost upon this tax. He, therefore, opposed the proposition of the Government, and would say "non-content." The Earl of RADNOR would also say "non -content" to the imposition of this tax, because it was unequal, unjust, and inquisitorial, in its operation. He contended that, in all seesons of agricultural depression, the laws were chiefly in fault. He objected to the tax because it was unjust and oppressive. He would not object to an income-tax if it were fairly apportioned. He did not think that it could be so. But he was convinced that it c said not be brought forward in a more objectionable shape than the present. The Duke of RICHMOND moved an amendment, as a rider to the Bill, " that, in the even', of farmers suffering a loss through a bad harvest, they should have a power of appe a l against the assessment of the tax. Lord STANLEY thought the Noble Lord's proposition un reasonable, because it was impossible to make such distinction. The Duke of RICHMOND would rather have the inquisitorial power than the real loss. He objected that they were obliged to ascertain their losses, and he thought it very hard if a man incurred a loss that he should pay as if it wete profit. He would not divide the House upon it, because he thought it would be useless to do so. Yet he knew that it was competent for them to alter a money bill, and, with the present power of the Government, he was convinced that the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Treasury would be very well able to make any alteration he pleased in the Bill. The Marquis of NORMANBY said that he agreed with the Noble Duke that this was the csowning iniquity of the Bill ; and though he was among the non-ccatents of the Bil he would not divide the He-use on this occasion. The areeedrnent was then put and negatived. The Bill was then read a third time, and passed; and their Lordships adjourned at a quarter to Twelve o'clock. GRANT TO MAYNOOTH, Mr. Parnell, rlrotherton, Mr. Hamilton, Col. Actc oel lr. Aali.,nby, 73r, Stuart Wortley, Mr. Mr. Diver, Mr. Palmer, Dr- Ito'Aring, and several other Hon. Mainlies pr, served titims from various places, against any addiCpual grant ...I)Maynootb. CHURCH EDUCATION. Mr. BATESON presented a petition from the eMunty of Derry, in favour of the grant for Church education i Q Ireland. JEWISH DISABILITIES BILL. Dr. 130 W RING pre,ented a petition from thg Unitarians of Bolton in favour of this Bill, nod praying the House nut to throw impediments in its way, hut to still further extend the' spirit of toleration which had dictated it. SAWYERS. Mr. SPOONER presented a pattliop from the sawyers of ffit• mingham complaining of the preset)._ system of importing Lica' America, in'o this country, read";-eut boards, free of duty, and praying the House to appe ; .nt a select committee to iu quire into its operation upon tl e operative sawyers of the couv:try. Mr. CO L. VI E presented several petitions from Dw.hysbir g ' against the grant the College of Maynooth. The Steneeturch Road Bill was read a second time. MEDICAL BILL. - Mr. MANGLES said that he presented a petition last ragv frc,'.n a numerous body of medical pra c titi oners i n several 4.xtele* in Surrey, praying for some alteration in the Medical Reform Bill introduced by the Right Hon. B aronet the Secretary OL , State for the Hume Department. He wished to prat the House in possession of the motives by which these gentlemen were actuated. The SPEAKER said the Hon. Gentleman was clearlf out of order in attempting to refer to petitions when there WO nu debate. Mr. MANGLES said that if he were prevented from stet' ing the opinions of those for whom he had acted, he wouldbeg to give notice that he should move certain amendments on the Medical Reform Bill in Committee.. 'AIAYNOOTH. Mr. T. S. DUNCOMBE presented two petitions agains t any increase in the grant to the College of Maynooth. They were numerously signed, and were untainted by any spirit et exclusiveness; but they deemed that any ecctesiastical esti; blishment was an unconstitutional imposition, and they pray the House to mooity or reduce the grant. Air. HINDLEY said he had presented several pe,titioe o against the grant to Maynooth last night, ;lid he now / hed,t: present seventy mor e. H e wou ld not trouble the House e4'112 reading the titles of these petitions, for he did not expect the, would be of the amaliest avail, but he conceivwd that it ica l necessary to present them in order to put thi' a House in session of the feelings of the country. The parties who h signed these petitions we'e not induce?, by any disposition to the " No Popery " cry, but because they conscientiously be" Iteved that any State support to ecclesiastical establisbroen tt was bad in principle. RAILNYAYS. Mr. STUART WORTLEN , seeing the Honourable Member for Oxford in his place, 13( aged to ask him when tbel might expect a notificatitin of the selection of Committees lee railways, and in what order they meant to classify the Bills. Mr. EsTcoUCIT said that the day on which the * House se' parated before the recess, the 20th of March, was the vett earliest day on which any decision could be come to. It some: c iurse clear that some consideration was requ i re d a f ter th e Hods: met again before the result of that decision could be declare° But he expected that the last would appear in the vo'ces morrow morning. With regard to the second portion of the Hon. Member's question, it was impossible to say in what Ws/ the Bills would be classified, for their order must depend 011 the busines of the AYS AND THE BOARD OF TRADE. air. JUNCO: IBE gave notice that, on Ttrzsday next, would (.ali att, mein to the Railway Department of the B° of Tr.ide, with a view of preventing their inflicting fue.De r injory on both public and private interests. On the motion of Mr. TUFNELL a return of the, numbe r of apprentices who have attended at each of the re:hools este Wished in her Majesty's dock yards, during th e year end December 31, 1644, was agreed to. NEW ZEALAND. Under Secretary for the Conies if 'se: had any objection go Mr. FOSTER as ked the Hononre.:ble Gentleman t h , 6 o received from New Zeala n d on e' ne I st inst.lav on the tante of the House th e Government dispatcn Mr. HOPE thought the P.ouse would agree with him these dispatches were for the inform a ti on o f Govern; t ;: went and not for the i n f ormat i on of Parliament. At e same time, however, ' ne could state that these dispatches we r , all ready, and he !r a d no o bj ect i on to lay such parts of there ei" the table as the house might wish to see. RAILWAY CLAUSES CONSOLIDATION (SC LAND) BILL. tit ° Mn. LABOUCHERE wished to call the attention of e.. ._ ct Lord Advocate te a report which had gone abroad, to the I . !, that the Learned Lord had allowed an Hon. Member to esai ' clause to the Railway Clauses Consolidation Bill of Scotlan d ; . without giving any previous notice of its nature, and at a Si% when the Bill was in its last stage, and there pas necessarily but a small attendance of , Members i House. When he mentioned what the clause s- ; he thought the Hou s e wou ld agree w i t h hi m, thatit 7, one of considerable imp or t ance . Th e prov i s i on was no Jr t. than this—that e ver y f u t ure ra il way to b e constructed in sefo, land, should give an indemnity or guarantee to the landed prix prietors of Sc o tla n d for a n y l oss t h ey m i ght s teb, , through any turnpike-road b e i ng a ff ected by ei construction of the line. It h a d create d consi d excitement in Scotland ; and he wished to know whether t- he facts he had stated were correct? The LORD ADVOCATE said the c l ause was similar to one introduced into the Bill rel a ti ng to England, and h did not think the Committe e h a d sanct i one d any unusual or ne.lu clause. MR. MA Z ZINI. • Sir C. NAPIER .sib '4.6 4a in the a statement . ; emit newspape r d ec l ar i ng positively that Mr. Mazzini ba r nothing at all to do with that order for the murder at Red"; which was alleged by the Right Hon. Secretary for the Hale' Department to have been signed by him. It appeared froll the stat ements i n t h e paper t h at the order was a forgery, a°, that Mr. Alazzini was n o t i n F rance at the time the order se: made. He wished, therefore, to ask the Right Hon. Barone: if he stiil maintained his charge, or whether he was prepares' to follow the example of the Hon. Member for ShrewsburiP and make an apology to Mr. Mazzini ? Sir J. GRAHAM said, that the Hon. and Gallant Officer . was not so obliging as to give him any notice of his intention to put such a quest i on . H e should have thought that he went"/ have observed the ordinary rule of the House in such a naatter•• But, as that rule h a d net b een o b served, he could scarcely _ expected to answer the question now. However, he would this, that he had seen letters written by Mr. Mazzini, to r,hiels the question of the Hon. and Gallant Officer referred ; and be (Sir J. Graham) last night laid upon the table of the_ House, by command of her Majesty, certain papers which bore di' rectly upon this question. The House would remember that , , when he was making his statement to it upon this question' he said distinctly that part of the accusation agaizest Mr. Mar zini did not reit on official information, but on certain letter"' which be ( Sir J. Graham) held in his hand,__( H.) He had h ear d that it was the intention of Mr. Mazzi e ni ar, to henr pro' secure the Moniteurnewspaper for an alleged libel contained ie that payer, but that he did nee follow it up; and Irts had all° heard that Mr. Mazzini died take an action against another paper for the sane, and that he had not succeeded 10 proving the allegation. But he told the lion. Member for Finsbury that he had never seen those letters or papers, and, therefore, could rot tell what the nature of the accusation wag -( Hear, hear.) He (Sir J. Graham) really knew nothing" nioee of the subject than this and what he had already stated., except that he had heard that the accusation in the Moniteur was ill-funded ; but he should now say he was bound to state that i.e old oat feel jurtitien in declaring that there eves no foundation for ;he charge ageinst Mr. Mazzini. MAYNOOTH COLLEGE. Mr. VILLIERS begged to know when it was Pee intention of the Right Gen. Baronet opposite to introduce! the Bill for the propo-ed increased grant to Maynooth ? The reason be asked the question was because he had heels requested bY a large body of Dissentora to put off the seecond reading of the Bill tor a 'ortnight. Sir R. PEEL said that, in conrequence of the resolution of the Hume in Loromittee last nis.,'ot, in favour of the Bill, Mr' Greene had received directisens to prepare it; and the House then fixed upon Friday neezt as the day upon which the second/ , reading of t h at Bill should take place, an d i t wou l d, there f ore , receive a second eeading on that d a y.—(O ppos i t i on cheers!) Mr. PLUM :•TRE said he was req ues t e d to inquire wit/ether the time f.':/r the second reading of the Bill might not 'be ex tender'• . ts 2 • bey or; Friday next . LORD ASH BURTON AND LORD, J. RUSSELL. Lord J. RUSSELL said that he win e d to ask a question of the Hon. Gentleman, the Under 'secretary of the Colonies, on a subject which was persore e t to himself. He had seen within the last few hours a s asement, purporting to have been made hy Lord Ashburton;fith regard to a speech made by his ( Lord John Russell) r:4l a late occasion. He would say, in first place, the' (l'at f: . tendship existed between him and Lord Ash Burton, 72.tich friendship began when that Noble* Lord and himself were of the same opinions is P f fetics—( Hear, hear, and a laugh) —and that the difference , which had taken place in their political opinions heed not interrupted the cordiality with which they always met to gest. er whenever it was his good fortune to meet that Noble Lord, and that nothing was further from his wish, in - the discharge of his public duty, than to say anything personally unkind of that Noble Lord. —(Hear.) In the course of the discussion on the navy estimates a discussion, quite unexpected by him, arose with regard to the treaty concluded by Lord Ashburton with America. That discussion was introduced by his Noble Friend• near him, and, in consequence of what had fallen from :her Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, he (Lord John Russell) hat/. ' referred to a matter which he conceived to be correctly stateti, as far as his recollection on the subject served. li e had said that he thought it was advisable there should be some arrangement made by which the forces of G r eat Britain and America should occupy a certain position, which Fshooruld be th e b oundary between the two States. that purpose he had instructed Lord Sydenham to carry on negotiations with that object, with the con currence of his Noble Friend the Member for Tiverton. Lord Sydenham informed him in his answer that he could not obtain from Mr. Webster any terms other than terms by which that part of the 'Madawaska settlement on the right bank of the river St. John should be occupied by the two Powers. It was, clear that Lord Ashburton supposed he (Lord J. Russell) s' j e luded to negotiations for a permanent settlement of the bound? xy, whereas —and be thought it was sufficiently clear from wit' e t he had said—he only alluded to a provisional arrangement to be made between the two Governments. If it was te je intention of the Government to carry on any diplomatire negotiations, they would, of course, be carried on by k...'55 Noble Friend, and not himself, as the Noble Lord retest have known. All he wished to know was, if the Hon. Gentleman the instructiom; which he (Lord . Under- Secretary for the Colonies, had ren: e i ee d a copy of any Lord Syderilsam, and his answer to him ? He Y eohn Russell) gave to spike at the moment from en answer and did not anticipate totally mistaken the who/ a discussion on what he they, stated ; but the Noble Lord had ham could have made transaction, for that Lord Syden- J• Russell observations seemed to him ( Lord imposs;.'ole. He wished to ask the Right Hon. S.Gentlemanßu sell)to pro'auce the documents he had in reference to this subject. Mr. HOPE said he was not aware that the Noble Lord in tended to p ut this search for else question. H e would, however, make every papers to which the Noble Lord referred. Lord JOHN RUSSELL inquired if a correspondence had taken place in respect to a provisional arrangement between., the Colonial -office and Lord Sydenham? Mr. HOPE said there bad been a correspondence wit:b rf,:;,,et to the disputed territory, Mr. HUME said that all dispatches connected wit ) , 4 this dispute ought to I e laid on the table of the House. 8 r ROBERT PEEL said, if the documents conidie pre. sewed without any injury to the public service, he had no ob objection to !nen. pi:dm:two ; but this matter having been settled hi tit eon this country and the United States, he did not see why they should be produced. He did not think any public object would be answered by their production, but if the THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, APRIL 5, 1845 the: up s , one Sir (Sir 1 Bill 1.1 fo r it Sir the aF matte Loi great Hous( trespa to cal jesty's notice