The Sun. — London, England, 1850-04-23 00:00:00

ITALY. - The Roman Journal of the 12th instant contains the following : " In the evening of the 10th the Pope proceeded from the Cathedral of Velletri to the Palace of the Legation, which had been magnificently fitted out by Cardinal Macchi, the Bishop and Legate, for the reception of his illustrious guest. The square being occupied by an immense multitude of people, his Holiness placed himself at a balcony and bestowed his benediction on the assistants, who received it with the live liest acclamations. The Pope was met at Velletri by General Baraguay d'Hilliers , who had repaired thither to present him his homage. In the course of the even• iag the Holy Father received a number of deputations and personages of the town and province, and several persons who had arrived from Rome, amongst whom were the Prince of Palestrina, commander of the Noble Guards, and Prince Altieri, captain in the same corps. Until we oan publish the particulars of the reception experienced by the Pope in the different localities which he traversed, we are happy to inform those who doubted the spirit that animated the people that that spirit has undergone no alteration, that it is eminently Pontifical, and that the factious or deluded individuals were very few com pared with the immense majority of the faithful. Tho French and Roman troops line the squares and, streets loading from the Church of Lateran to the Va tican. The edifices and houses aro tastefully deco rated. The people are running wherever they hope the better to see and great the Holy Father, their august Sovereign. Illuminations are everywhere preparing. Half-past 4 rat —His Holiness our Lord Pope Pius IX. has happily entered Rome, at 4 o'clock, amidst the acclamations and excitations of the Romans and fo reigners, who thronged the great square of Lateran." THE STAMP BILL. The majority of our readers are probably already aware of the defeat experienced by her Majesty's Ministers, on Monday evening, on the question of the Stamp Bill brought forward by the Chan cellor of the Exchequer. We understand that during the interval since that event Sir Charles Wood has reconstructed his scale in order to meet the new circumstances of the case, and that some thirty or forty of the Liberal Members who sit on the Ministerial side of the House and voted against the Right Honourable Gentleman's first proposition have now resolved to support the ,oheme as amended. It may, therefore, be anticipated that Sir Charles will on Thursday evening be enabled to carry his measure against all the efforts cf the Protectionist party ; and that the following scale will ultimately form the text of the Government Bill on its final passage through the House ; namely, _ _ _ ls. 0 2s. 61. 4s. Od. ... ss. 6(1. 7;. Od. £175 ..• ••• ... Bs. GI whilst from 2001. up to 100,000/. the duty will be one (parer 'per cent. I, is regarded that concession is necessary in order to approach to something like an ad valorem duty ; and whilst transactions above 100,0001. are E 0 few that the Ices to the revenu , :., will be of little moment, the reduction on stamps of more insignificant amount will prove of most material importance to the public. It is, therefore, proposed that the highest charge o: - i the surrior description of stamps shall be 2.sol.—Liverpool £50.. £75 £lOO.. £125 £150.., UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE. UNIVERSITY COLLEGE. OXPOTID, APRIL 20.—The Rev. Francis Tate, /,1.A., of this College, late Rector of Girton, Cam brilgeshire, has been presented to the incumbency of R.rkeley Chapel, Charles-street, Berkeley-spare, London. NEW COLLEGE The 11 w. IL B. Williams, ALA., of this Col lege, and Fellow of Winchester Ciltege, has been presented to the rectory of Bradford Peverel, Dorset. The Rev. G. C. Rashleigh, AL A., of this College, and Fellow of Winchester College, has been presented to the perpetual curacy of Hound, Rants. ALL SOULS ' COLLEGE. The Rev. George Fereman, .51. A., Chaplain of Christ Church, has been appointed Chaplain and Tutor of All Souls' College, in the room of the Rev. J. W. Hughes, deceased. crinlsT CIIIIRCII. The Vise Clvincellor has appointed Mr. W. Scol toeli, M.A., one oeWs Exhibitioners of Christ Cturcb, to be a Proctor in the Vice• Chancellor's Court, in the room of the late Rev. J. W. Hughes. MAGDALEN COLLEGE. The sermon on St. Mark's-day in the chapel of this college will be preached by the Rev. Alfred Pott, Derny of Aiagdalen. IVORCESTEE. COLLEGE. There will be an election ofa — hicie clerk in this college on the 29th of May next. Candidates must present to the Provost in person, on the 27th of May (at • any hour), certificates testifying that they are destitute of means for their support in the University, and that their character is religious and exemplary. The income of Bible clerks in this college is quite adequate to their support in the university. The Prmlector of Logic will continue his lectures on •the Compendium of Aldrich on 'Tuesday e, Thurs dap, and Saturdays, this term, at one o'clock, begin ning. on Tuesday next, the 23d, in Ballo! Hall. He also wishes to make a class to read the Categories of Aristotle. Those who wish to attend the latter course are requested to call on the Prwlector on Tuesday, the. 231, between ten and eleven o'clock, at No. 23, New inn Hall -street. EXTRAORDINARY CASE. BRIGHTON, SATURDAY.—At the bench of magis trates, yesterday, an interesting young woman came into court to affiliate her child upon Charles Theobald, a servant in livery, not more than 17 years of age. The case at first excited considerable merriment from the wording of a letter in the defendant's handwrit ing, which was read by dr. Upperton, the magis trate's clerk, but towards the close of the case it as sumed a more serious aspect. The younc , woman stated that Theobald was perfectly aware of being the father of the child, and had admitted it in several of the letter which she had received from him. She had destroyed most of the letters, but had preserved one, which she handed into court. It was read as follows : " Ilope.place, Oct. 17. " ' Absence makes the heart grow fonder.'—(Laughter.) " Dear Mary—dearest Mary,—l hope I shall hear baiter news from you when yuu write. I received your third letter last Saturday, and am sorry to find you in such a bad state. Generally people don't feel so faint when they aro so for gone as you are.—(Laughter.) I)ear Mary, I dare say it troubles your mind very ranch, but not more than mine, dear Mary. It is very wick: ;l thing to wish for money, but I do wish for it now.—(Loud laughter.) Dear Mary,' don't leave it too late—(Renewed laughter)— or else you may insure yourself very much. Dear Mare, you said you was glad to think I bad no pain. Oh, Mary, I can assure you it is a great pain to me to hear Etleh bad news from you, and to see what a state we are both in. Dear Mary, to tell you the truth, lam afraid cf writing such letters as these to you ; I dare say you aro the same. I; wish, dear Mary, I could write differ ent ones. Dear Mary, I hope you won't forget to tell the nurse not to bring the child into the world—(Great sensation in court)—for you know what a burden it will be to us. We shall never be able to enjoy ourselves, for every_ Shilling we h ave t o s p are must go for the child. Dear Mary, I have not time to write any more. "Prom yours truly and affectionate, in haste, " CHARLES THEOBALD." Mr. Carpenter addressed the defendant in very severe terms upon the letter h to the girl, especially with regard to that part th ere he requested her to tell the nurse not to bring the child into the world. The magistrate told him to guard, for they should have an eye upon him, and offspringhe offered anything like evil to the poor girl or, he would suffer for it. The defendant was then bound over to keep the peace, and an order was made upon him for 2s. 6d. per week for the support of the child. THE STORY of the SEA-SERPENT. We almost dared to hope, and to express our faith, in the reality of the sea-serpent until the arrival of the last mail steamer from the United States. We had heard that the leviathan had appeared on the shores of the western world ; we had been told that a steam boat ran within thirty yards and " spoke " the monster; we then learned by electrical dispat c h that the leviathan had directed its course up Skull Creek ; and we at last received the crowning news that the greatest problem of the day had " run ashore." Assurance more complete could scarcely be desired; and straightway imagination abandoned itself to contemplate the chance which had at last, for the first time in the world's history, thrown the gigantic denizen of the deep upon the rocky shores of earth, and the wondrous frame which would be dis closed to tempt the curiosity and rebuke the inere dulity of men of science. But it was not the great sea-serpent which had run ashore. We had given wings to ourfancy too soon, and we speedily found our selves cast upon the rocks of error. "No sea-serpent has been seen; no sea -serpent has been spoken; no sea serpent has run ash ore,'' is the new story told in the newest news ; and we than driven of a verity to ex claim, in more homely ha the whole was "very liken elegant language, that a whale." And, truly, sea very like a whale was the deerpent ; too much so, unhappily, for the hope we ha d fallen the lot first to proclaim, c h erished that to us acreature'ith unquestion able truth, the existence of which had long formed " a tale of wonder" to the world. For whales, it has now it appears that the serpent still is ever been, a myth, and that a troop headed by one of superior size and swimmi n g 1 fife, had deceived our American seamen. From l n i the an IV ew York Journal we extract the followi n g notice :—" The renowned expedition of e C aptain os s i t en cl osing Barnwell up Broad River in search of the mo nste r snake were much chagrined, on approaching his worship,, by the discovery that they were in - th e proximity of four whales, one large and three smaller, which generally preserved their respective positions : THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, APRIL 23, 1850. one immediately following the; other, and in their movements having all the appearances of a single animal. The largest whale, which was calculated to be about sixty to sixty-five feet, and the head of which was several times raised about six feet out of the water, had below the mouth what resembled a white beard, the ' floating mane' so often described as be longing to the sea-serpent."—Liverpool Albion. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF EXCHEQUER, April 22. BREACH OF PROMISE OF DIARRIAGE.—ADAMS V. GIBBS. This case was tried before the Lord Chief Justice Wilde at the last assizes at Maidstone, and a verdict was found for the plaintiff—damages 8001. Mr. Sergeant SHEE now moved for a rule to show cause why the verdict should not be set aside, and a new trial had, on the ground of misdirection, and of the damages being excessive. This was an action for a breach of promise of marriage. The defendant pleaded that he did not promise; that the plaintiff was not ready and willing to marry him; that he had no notice of her readiness or willingness; that the plaintiff did not request the defendant to marry her; that a reasonable time had not elapsed after the promise, and that the plaintiff was afflicted with a certain incurable disease called consumption, of which the defendant had no knowledge at the time he made the promise, but was afterwards informed of it. The plaintiff was a young woman about 24 years of age, and was the daughter of a farmer. The defendant was a farmer and a hop grower, residing in the immediate neighbourhood of the farm occupied by the plaintiff's father, and was 49 or 50 years old. These two farms belonged to the same landlord (Lord Gainsborough), and were about three or four miles apart. It was not proved that the defendant was possessed of any property beyond the interest which he had in the farm. It appeared that there had been some intimacy between the de fendant and the plaintiff's family for a considerable time previous to the month of September, 1848, but it was not till that month that the defendant made a proposal to the young lady, and was accepted. The father was called at the trial, and he stated that the de fendant inf aened him on the following day of what had occurred, and that he had consented. No correspondence had passed between the parties, but it was shown that the defendant heel his house newly furnished, and had his initials and those of his intended wife engraved on the plate which was presented to him by his friends, and had gone the length of tieing an early day, viz., the 16th of Dec., for their marriage. It was arranged that the marriage should take place in London, and accordingly the defendant went to town and stayed the necessary time to admit of his getting a licence. In the meatainae, however, he was requested to attend an appointment of the solicitors of the plaintiff's family, on the lath of Dec., for the purpose of making some arrangements respecting the marriage settlement. It was proved that; be plaintiff did go down as far as Reigate, but it seemed a change came suddenly over his mind, for he returned back to London, and went on a voyage to America, and was not seen or heard of until six months afterwards. There was evidence also to show that he had actually obtained the licence, and had ordered the wedding break fest at Morley';; Hotel, Trafalgar-squure, and from the date of the proposal until his sudden dis appearance he had conducted himselk in every way like a man who fairly and honourably intended to fulfil his promise. He (Mr. Sergeant Slice) was instructed t) state that the defendant had not the sli,ghtest wish to cast any imputation on the young lady or her family, and his sole defence was, that the short interval which elapsed between the proposal nod the di.saapointment, had brought to his knowledge matters which showed that she was in a state cf health which would render it not only impru dent and unjust to contract marriage as far as he was concerned, but also as regarded the plaintiff, and any children which 'eighth° horn. And the misdirection which he (Mr. Sergeant Shea) had to complain of, was that the Learred Judge told the jury that there was no evidence to prove the plea alleging consumption. The evi dence which he submitted substantiated the plea, which was as follows :—ln 1846 the friends of the young lady consulted Dr. Taylor, an eminent physician at Maidstone, respecting her complaint. Her father had then lost two daughters of consumption, one aeed 20 and the other 22, and he had a son who was killed by accident on board a ship while on a voyage to a warmer climate, where he had been recom mended to go , in consequence of his medical advisers appreheneing consumption. It appeared that the plaintiff was staying at Hastings from the autumn of 1846 to May, 1847, and while there, suffered get atly from debility and was subject to fainting fit:, and was only able to take exercise to a very slight extent. It ap peared further, that she was in the habit of taking quan tities of cod liver oil, which was generally prescribed for consumptive persons. The CHIEF BARON could not think that these facts went to prove that the plaintiff was suffering from con sumption. There was a great differ:trice of opinion among parties, even supposing her complaint to have any existence, whether or not a man could under such circumstances be liberated from his promise. Mr. Sergeant tE.:HEE said it was clear that she would be unable prot.erly to discharge the duties of a wife while afflicted with such a complaint. Besides, the de fendant was old enough to be her father, and it was his duty t see that he did not inflict distress upon others as well as himself. To marry and have children which, on arriving at 12 or 15, were carried to the grave, was about the most selfish and immoral thing a man could do, especially when ho knew his bride's health was likely to prodeee such a state of thins. Mr. Baron PARKE said a man Must take his chance, and if he chose to break his promise he must be held liable for the injury to which he had given rise. Mr Sergeant SHEE said there yns — suruly an implied condition when a promise was made that the parties were fit fur the married state. A man or a woman had no right to bring children into the world afflicted with an incurable disease. The CHIEF BARON intimated that the Court was of opinion that the plea had not been sufficiently proved to grant a rule upon that paint. Mr. Sergeant SHEE then moved on the point of da mag.,s, stating that the defendant depended entirely upon his farm for subsistence, and was not worth 7,000 L, as had been erroneously stated. He was willing to give the plaintiff 5004 but 8001., he thought was more than she was entitled to. The plaintiff could not have sustained much damage, for what advantage would a young woman have by marrying a man of fifty? He (Mr Sergeant Shea) considered she was much better witnout him.—(Laughter.) The CHIEF BARON—It is very well for you, who are nnd2r fifty, to say so.—(Laughter.) We will consult Lord Chie Justice Wilde before we give our decision. O'CONNOR V. BRADSHAW. Mr. Sergeant Wlmums moved to set aside the verdict entered for the defendant in this case (which was an action for libel), on the grounds that evidence had been very improperly rejected, that the jury were misdirected, and that the verdict was against the evidence. The Learned Sergeant rlad not concluded his applica tion when the usual hour for adjournment arrived. The motion will be proceeded with at the bitting of the Court this day (TueEdAy). POLICE INTELLIGENCE. WORSHII'-ayeaßEJaEmTes Engley, was . A middle-aged man, n placed at the bar, before Mr.Arnold,A having stolen a number of gold and silver watches, the value of 701., the property of hi s late of employer, Mr. Reuben Levi, a watch manufacturer in Wilson street, Finsbury-square. The prosecutor atated that the prisoner had been for a considerable period in his employment as fore man, and so high an opinion was entertained of his integrity, that the whole of his business and premises were entrusted to his entire superintendence when ever he had occasion to leave town. On returning from a visit to the country in the early part of last year, he found that the prisoner, whom he had left, ' as usual, in charge of the business, had absconded, and upon examining his stock in the warehouse he discovered that four flat gold watches, and a number of cases and other portions of watches, had been stolen. Information of the robbery was immediately communicated to the police, and through the exer tions of Sergeant Harvey, of the G division, the whole of the missing property, with the exception of one of the watches, was traced to the shop of a pawnbroker ' in the City-road, and from whom it was ultimately recovered upon payment of half the amount for which it bad been pledged. The prisoner, however, bad ever since succeeded in eluding pursuit until Satur day, when he was accidentally met with while emerg ing from one of the law courts at Westminster, and taken into custody. Mr. Wood, a p awn b ro k er i n the City-road, proved that the property in question had been pledged at his shop at various times, for sums in the whole amount ing to 501., and d identifi e • the prisoner, who passed by the name of Thompson, as the person who pledged it. Sergeant Harvey stated the prisoner, that upon being brought to the station-house, fully admitted his guilt, and expressed his satisfaction captured, as he declared th a t he hadat having been not tasted food for two days, and had wandered about the stre e t s th e whole of the preceding night with out the me ans b y which to procure a night's lodging. The prosecutor intimated that he bad ' attendance who could also establish several l nesses in embezzlement against the prisoner ; but r tha c t ase ' s of was imperatively compelled to leave town immediatelyashe he considered it would be most advisable to prefer a n against him for that offence at the Centralal Criminal Court, in the event of his escaping from present charge. The prisoner declined offering any defence, and was fully committed to ate for tria S N OUT ewg HWARK. I. Yesterday Jane Butler, a woman between 30 and 40 years of age f was brought up from the infir • mary of St. George's workhouse, and placed at the bar be fore Mr. A'Beckett, charged with stealing a purse, containing 50 sovereigns, a 10/. Bank of England note, and some silver, among which were two six pences with holes in them, the property of Mr. Samuel Buckmaster, wholesale warehouseman. The prisoner was labouring under such serious indisposition that she was obliged to be supported into court, and sat down during the examination. Mrs. Harriett Buckmaster stated that she occa sionally employed the prisoner` to assist in her do mestic affairs, and that on Saurday, the 16th ult , she was at her house in Snow's Fields, Southwark. In the course of the afternoon of that day the pri. soner went up stairs to make complainant's bed, and not coming down again to tea it was found that she had secretly left the house. When the complainant's bedroom was subsequently examined, it was then dis covered that two of her trunks had been opened, from one of which a purse contain; 501. in sovereigns, a 101. Bank of England note, and some silver, was stolen. She added that the keys of th e t run k s had been left by her by mistake in the bedroom pre viously to the prisoner having gone there, and that subsequently to the prisoner having absconded with the money, the keys were found underneath the bed. Immediately upon the discovery of the robbery in formation was given at the station-house, together with a description of the prisoner; and she (com plainant) did not see her again until Thursday last. She further stated that she should be enabled to iden tify the 10/. Bank of England note, as it had the name of Gibson endorsed on it, and there were also two sixpences with holes in them. _ She heard the pri soner say, when taken into custody, that the greater part of the money she had stolen was afterwards plundered from herself by the people of the house in which she took up her abode on absconding. Policeman Potter, 212 K, stated that on Thursday last he took the prisoner into custody at a lodging house in Bluecoat-fields, St. George's-in-the-East, where he fnind her apparently labouring under de lirium tremens, and she at first said her name was Williams, but after wards admitted that she was the person who had taken the money belonging to the complainant. He then proceeded to examine the room, and found a purse under the bed, containing three sovereigns and some small coins, amongst which were two sixpences with holes in them. Knowing that a 101. Bank of England note was amongst the money that was stolen, he first asked the landlady of the house, who was present during the whole time, whether she had seen it ; but she declared she had not, and that she knew nothing about it. The prisoner, however contradicted the asser tion, upon which the landlady then confessed that she had deposited the bank-note in the hands of a publican fur safety, adding that she did it at the pri soner's request. Inspector Town informed the magistrate that it had been ascertained that subsequently to the robbery at the complainant's the prisoner immediately went off to the east end of the town, and engaged lodgings in Blue-coat-fields, St. George's-in-the-E Ist. The people of the house, finding that she had a large sum of money about her, contrived to obtain possession of the greater portion of it by hocussing her, and re ducing her to her present dangerous condition of health. He added that cut of the fifty sovereigns only three were recovered, the remainder having been taken from her from time to time since the 16th of Mach by the landlady in whose house she lodged. The purse, with the three sovereigns and silver, amongst which were two sixpences with holes in them, was produced ; and the complainr.nt identified the parse and sixpences as forming part of the stolen propt-rty. - William Smith stated that he is landlord of the Royal Sovereign public-houie in Blue-coat-fields. and that on Thursday morning last the landlady of the house where the prisoner lodged called upon him, and producing a 101. Bank of England note, reTtested he would take care of it, saying that it belonged to a female of her acquaintance who had recently come from Ireland, and that being in bad health she wanted to keep the 101. to put her in the ground in case she should die. He received the bank-note under these circumstances, and the woman who entrusted it to him had since called at his house and obtained 10s. out of the money. Mr. ATECKETT inquired where the note was ? The witness replied that he had since paid it to his brewer, but that he had every expectation of being enabled to have it restored in case it should be re quired. He added that the name of Gibson was en dorsed on it as decribed by the complainant. Mr. ATECKETT gave directions that the landlady cf the house where the prisoner lodged should be taken into custody, and in the meantime remanded the prisoner, who was conveyed back to the infirmary of the workhouse, as she still continues so extremely ill, in consequence, as she asserts, of the deleterious ingredients mixed in the liquor with which she was plied in the lodging-house. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF LORDS, Aprzl 22. Lord LANGDALE (in the absence of the Lord Ch.-Ai:moi ler) took his seat on the Woolsack shortly More Five o'clock. Lord BLANTYRE took the oaths and his seat as one of the representative Peers for Scotland. SMOKE PROHIBITION BILL. This Bill went through Committee after a short dis cussion, and was ordered to be reported. PETITIONS. The Earl of HARE WOOD presented petitions from various parts of Yorkshire in favour of a modera?e duty on corn. Lord REDESDALE presented petitions from various places against Sunday labour in the Post-office. The Dake of RICHMOND presented a petition from Chichester in favour of the claims of the assistant-sur geons in the navy ; also several petitions against Post office labour on Sunday. AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION. Lord MONTEAGLE, after presenting several peti tions, asked the Secretary of State fur the Colonies, the question of which be had given notice, namely, whether any further dispatches had been received from New South Wales and Western Australia on the subject of the proposed change of the constitution of those pro vinces; and whether it is the inteation of the Govern ment to recommend any Bill fur forming a new consti tution for those provinces without the production of further information on the subject. Earl GREY stated that when the Bill came up from the House of Commons he would state what course the Government intended to pursue. As yet he hal not received any information from New South Wales or Western Australia other than that which was already before Parliament. Af,er some observations from Lord STANLEY and Lord MONTEAOLE the subject dropped. IMPORTATION OF SHEEP AND CATTLE. The Duke of RICHMOND moved, pursuant to no tice, for the appointment of a Select Committee to in quire into the operation of an Act to prohibit the im portation of sheep, cattle, and other animals for the pur pose of preventing the introduction of contagious or in fectious diseases (11 and 12 Viet., c. 105), with a view of rendering its provisions more efficient than at present. As he understood his Noble Friend did not intend to op pose the motion, he would not detain their Lordships; and he would, to show that ho did not intend , this motion to be of a party charactr, leave the nomination of the Committee to his Noble Friend. The moton was then agreed to. IRISH POOR-LAW COMMITTEE. On the motion of the Marquis of WESTREA'riI, the Committee to inquire into the allegations contained in the petition from Carrick•on-Shaanou, presented on Friday, was nontinatee. SCIIOOLS DISTRICTS CONTRIBUTIONS BILL. On the motion of the Marquis of LANSDO WNE this Bill passed through Committee. Their Lordships then adjourned. ROUSE OF COMMONS, April 22. The SPEAKER took the Chair at five minutes before Four o'Clock. PETITIONS. Mr.' G. DUNCAN presented a petition from the Convention of Royal Burghs of Scotland, held at Edin burgh a few days ago, against the Public Health (Scot land) Bill; also a petition from the Presbyterian Con gregation of Broughty Ferry against Sunday labour in the Post-Jfice. Sir JOSHUA WALMSLEY presented a petition from Bolton, praying (inter alitt) for the abolition of be Irish Cburch Establishment. Mr. WILLCOX, prey anted a petition from the mem bers of the Society of Friende, at Southampton, p;ay ing for the abolition of church-rates; also a petition from the same place praying for the cessation of Sunday labour in the Post-office. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY presented a petition from Evesham praying for the cessation of Suudey labour in the Post-office. Lord HOTHAM presented similar petitions from places in the East Riding of the county of York. Mr. ELLIOT presented a petition in favour cf the Ten Hours Bill from a place inaudable in the gallery. Mr. CHRISTOPHER presented a petition► from the Spilsbury board of guardians praying for the reduction of the selaries of poor-law officers, in consequence of the agricultural distress in that part of the country; also a petition from Gainsborough, agteed to at a public meeting, complaining of agricultural distress.—(" Hear, hear," from the Protectionists.) Mr. FARRER presented a petition from Stockton upon-Ties against the Secular Education Bill. Mr. SLANEY presented a petition from Salop pray ing for the abolition cf . church-rates. Mr. CROWDER presented petitions from Liskeard, one praying fur the abolition of capital punishments, and another praying that no more licences may be granted to beer shops in that town. Mr. SHARMAN CRSWFORD presented a petition from Lisburne against the Landlord and Tenant Bill. Mr. P. SUROPE presented a similar petition from Tipperary. Mr. COBDEN presented several petitions from York shire against the Ten Hours Bill. Sir JAMES GRAHAM presented a petition from a place in Cumberland in favour of the Ten Hours Bill, but praying that the House may adopt the principle of an eleven hours' continuous labour as a compromise. Mr. LASCELLES presented a petition from a place in Yorkshire in favour of agricultural protection. sir. ALEXANDER IiASTIE presented a petition from Glasgow against the Bill for legalising marriage with a deceased wife's sister. An immense number of petitions were presented praying for the cessation of Sunday labour in the Post office. Lord DUDLEY STUART presented a petition from an individual whose name was inaudible in at, gallery against intramural interments. Mr. BROCKLEHURST presented a petition from Macclesfield praying the House to pass some measure to abolish the shift system. Sir W. MOLESWORTII and Mr. HEALD presented pe titions to a similar effect. Mr. COWAN presented a petition from Berwick praying for the abolition of the punishment of death; also a petition from Edinburgh praying for an alteration in the Scotch poor-law, Mr. HUM.E presented a petition from several indi viduals connected with a benefit society complaining that the funds were illegally detained by one individual, and praying that the House would extend the jurisdic tion of the county courts, that they might sue the individual without going through the expensive process of filing a bill in Chancery ; also a petition from a single individual praying the House to pass the measure for secular education. _ Sir R. PEEL presented a petition from Tamworth praying the House t) pass some measure for the regula tion of railway funds; also a petition from Jamaica com plaining of the infraction of the treaties to suppress the slave trade by Spain and Brazil; and a petition in favour of Lord Ashley's Factory Bill. Sir G. GREY presented a petition from the parish of St. Leonard in favour of_the .. Metropolitan Interment Bill. I exist respecting it. He was not quits s u r e th a t w ith ou t such exielane!ion the Bill weuld be intelligible te the country.—(Hear.) With that general understanding he would make the explanatory statement befere the first order of the day on that day wee,k.—(ifear.) He also proposed to give notice, a; his Noble Friend had pro ! mised for him, of the ceuree he meant to take in respect to the Stamp Duties Bill. The House was aware that they had gone through the clauses of the Bill. Although imperfect as these clauses might be, yet there Was only one amendment made in them. The firet item in the schedule was the proposition of a stamp duty upon bonds and mortgages. Whatever applied to one applied also to the other. The proposal which he had first made, and which stood in the original Bill, am per cent. He received several deputations on the subject, and many representations had been male from parties who considered that they would be mere injured by the operation of the Bill than any others,—he meant the great railway companies, who believed that the measure would inflict a great hardship on them. It did seem to him that these parties would certainly be more injured by the scale originally proposed, and that was the reason why he announced his intention to pro pose that the due) , should be one-quarter in stead of one-half. The House, however, thought otherwise; and a motion was carried which reduced the duty to one-tenth per cent. The actual vote the House then came to would reduce the duties on all securities and bonds up to 50/. to Is. If that proposition was to ho carried out—if a similar priniciple was to be applied to stamp duties upon a'l conveyances, he was sorry to say that it would inflict such a loss upon the revenue of the country that, however unwillingly, he should be compelled to abandon the Bill altogether.— (1-lear, hear.) He held in his hand a report from the Inland Revenue, which he would lay on the table of the House as soon as it was printed. This report would be in the hands of Hon. Members very shortly. The ob jections of Hon. Members against the Bill were not so much in reference to the amount of the stamp duties, hut as regarded their uniform rate, or per tentage, being pursued to a higher amount, us it was considered that they would cause a very heavy pressure upon them. It seemed to be the impression of the House that a graduated scale should be proposed. The present duty was on a graduate l scale, but it was graduated the other way precisely, being infinitely heavier on small amounts than higher ones. If a man borrowed 101. now, he paid 10 per cent.; if he borrowed 100,0001., he paid 60. per cent. There was a graduating scale pressing severely on the poor. He did not propose to ask of the House to increase the scale for a higher sum than was already stated; but unless he c obtain that which would produce a quarter per cent. he could not forego the revenue he had mentioned. What he had proposed to do was to relieve all borrowers up to 3,2001., and beyond there would be some increase. Its confessed that he thought it would be hardly fair that the duty should l. , e carried uniformly up. Ho in tended then to abide by the ls. for sums under 501, and to rise Is. 60. upon every 25/. up to his own scale of 2001., and then carry it ueiformly up to 100,0001. In the present scale of dutiee"there was a limit on conveyances of 1,0001. for 100,0001., which was 1 per cent. He intended to adept that sum, and combine it with the maximum duty which one would have to pay on borrowing 100,0301.—that would be 250/. With re• gird to some other questions which had been put to him by the Hen. and Learned Member (Mr. a - tunings), it would be found that he had acceded to them with some slight variations. He also meant to ascent to what had been said on the auhject of agreemeats; and as to the point that had l een urged respecting settlements and capitalised annuities, he did not propose to insist upon it. There were, hoe ever, some stocks that were now ex empted from duties, and which, consistently with other articles, ought to p:3 , duties. He now laid on the table the report of the Commissioners of Inland Revenue on the subject of stamp duties, and also upon mortgages and conveyances, and reeved that it be printed. Mr. MULLINGS asked whether 250/. was to be paid upon 100,000/.? The CEIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Upon 100,001 the Outy will be 2501. Mr. GOULBURN asked, with respe•ct to contingen annuities, if the Right lion. Geutiernaa proposed town. tinue the duties? Tho CH4.II.4CELLOR of the EXC FIEQUER proposed to givo that up; he had toti.ted so two mioute3 ago. Ito answer to Sir H. WILLOUGHBY, The CU ANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he proposed to present a new scale; and from 200/. it went on in regular progression—a quarter per cent. up to 100,0001., and there it stopped. Mr. HUME said he understood, on the whole, there would be a loss on the present scale. lie hoped tne Chancellor of the Exchequer would reconsider his plan, and not stop at 100,0001, because it would not be doing justice to minor interests. Mr. SANDARS wisht4:l to know if the Right Hon. Gen:lemart intended to make any alteration upon bonds and memorials? The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER replied not beyond that stated in the schedule. Mr. SANDARS gave notice that he would move the duty be reduced to Is. THE INDIANS AT HUDSON'S BAY. Mr. CHRISTY asked if the attention of the Govern ment bad been called to a paragraph in the newspapers with r( forence to a complaint by the Government of the United States against the Hudson's. Bay Company es to the supply of a large quantity of spirits to the native Indians? Lord PALMERSTON said it had come to the know ledge of the Government that the United States Go vernment had complained that the Hudson's Bay Com pany supplied the Indians with spirits as au article of commerce. That representation had been referred back to the Hudson's Bay Company, and their reply was that the agents of the company did not supply spirits to the Indians in any way at an article of commerce, but that a very small proportion had beengive.n to tie hunters when they came to the settlement, which he (Lord Palmer:ton) might say was "drunk on the prernies."—(Llughter.) VANCOUVER'S - ISLAND. Mr. HUME asked whether the Noble Lord at the head of the Government tad any objection to lay on the table of the House a report of what proceedings had taizen place respecting Vaecouver's Island? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he would inquire if there were any papers on the subject, and if so, he would lay them on the table. institutions formed on the same basis as 'those of other countries, and it was with that view the Bill now before the House had been proposed. He fully admitted the importance of extending the quali fication to the squatting interest. Ie the Legislature of New Scuth Wales the popular members were as two to one to the others; and they were able enough to bring about any reform they wished. That being so, the Government wished those matters to be as much as possible effected by the colonists themselves. For these reasons, therefore, he would far rather see that question discussed and the measure originated in the colonies. Mr. ADDERLEY said the Government had clearly given a constituent assembly which could not possibly represent the feelings of the community. Mr. WYLD said he could very well imagine the con stitution proposed by the Government might suit the colony of New South Wales or Victoria, but here they were legislating for a colony which was at this moment exporting a large amount of convicts. In the year 1842 Van Diemen's Land, to some extent, had been in a state of prosperity, because they had almoit altogether ce seed to send convicts there, but since that time the tide of transpe tation had flown in there with renewed strength; and since that time the free po pulation, he understood, were leaving the settlement with all the speed in their power. Ho did .not think that the present Bill gave sufficient control over the convict po pulation to the Government, and ,what he proposed to do was to enable her Majesty and her successors to name an executive council, consisting of the Chief Justice, the Colonial Secretary, the Colonial Tres surer, and the Police Magistrate, to exercise control over the convict population. The Hon. Member concluded by moving a resolution to that effect as an amendment on clause 7. After a few words from Mr. MOWATT, Mr. LABOUCHERE said he hoped the Hon. Member would not at present persist in his amendment. Clause 7 was one which certainly ought to stand. Sir W. MOLES WORTH said that the Under-Secre tary for the Colonies had not yet answered the ques tion which had been put to him by the Hon. Member for Northampton. Mr. HAWES replied that the new councils would have no such power as the Honourable Baronet men tioned ; but that any measure for altering a constitution would have to be sent home for the consideration of the Colonial-office and the assent of the Crown, before it could become law. Subsequently the Honourable Gentleman directed the attention of Sir W. Molesworth to the first part of the clause, which enacted that the proceed ings of the new councils with reference, to the altera tion of a constitution should be in accordance with the conditions now by law required; " consequently, whatever laws were passed with respect to an alteration of the franchise, and the Secretary of State refused to give them his sanction, this House would have an opportunity of'questioning the decision of the Secretary of State. Sir W. MOLESWORTH—Then it followed that no constitution could be established in the colonies untril this Bill had been sent out, and they had agreed to a constitution, transmitted it to the Colonial-office, and it was sent back to them again. Thus they wo u ld no be able to have a new constitution in a shorter period than two years. He suggested therefore that they should not now pass this portion of the Bill, but wait for further in formation frown the colonies. Mr. HUME—The Bill gave the colonists the power of basing the suffrage upon whatever principle they pleased, and of framing whatever constitution they might think fit. They would then send it home for the approval cf the Government here; end this he thcruebt would induee them to take greater care in its prepa ration. Mr. ANSTEY said the colonies with which he was acquainted would infinitely rather that this Bill should be passad in its integrity than that there should be even a month's delay to its progress. Ho thought Sir W. Molesworth had not adopted a fair course towards the louse and the Government in regard to the Bill. Mr. MACGREGOR said that no Bill would give more satisfectiun to the colonies than this would; and he could assure gentlemen who opposed it that they would get little credit in Vale Diemen'a Lend for their op position. Sir W. MOLESWORTH—Was it not the feet that two years must elapse before a new Legislature could be established in the colonies? Mr. HAWES did not think it would occupy that. space of time. Undoubtedly they could not prose e I to legislate until the Bill-was passed. It would have been passed last year but for the multitudinous amendments which were brought forward. Mr. ADDERLEY—It was clear that the plan of the Government would create far more delay than any other plan which had yet bsen suggested. Who was the origin of the delay which had taken place but the Ministers themselves? They had been urged to proceed with the measure before Easter, but they delayed the &bate a month or six weeks, in order to reproduce old dis patches, from which they could draw no information whatever. Mr. WYLD said he would not press the amendment. It was accordingly withdrawn, and clause 7 was agreed to, as also were clauses 8 and 9. On clause 10, giving power to alter electoral districts and the number o:, members of the Legislative Council, Mr. ANSTEY moved the omission of the proviso at tached to the clause, which provided that one-third of the members of the chamber should be nominees of the Crown. The effect of his am,nciment would be to have the absolute number of those nominees the same as now proposed, but it would prevent the Government from increasing that number pari passu with any increase of the elected members which might be hereafter decided upon by the colony in a future change of their constitu tion under the provisions of this Act. Lord J. RUSSELL said the Act passed for New South Wale in 1842, in conformity with which the present measure was framed, provided that one-third of the members of the Legislative Council should be appointed by the Crown; but, of that one-third, only one-half should hold offices of emolument under the Crown, so that, in fact, the number of official members was only one-sixth of the whole Legislative Council. That ap peared moderate enough, but if the Hon. and Learned Member's amendment were adopted it would quite dis turb it. Mr. MO WATT did not think it expedient to giro the Committee the trouble of again dividing upon the point, and he, therefore, suggested to the Hon. and Learned Member to withdraw it, particularly as he himself (Mr. Mowatt) proposed to offer an amendment on the report, requiring that the nominated members should be only one-fourth, on which occasion he meant to go fully into the subject. Mr. ADDERLEY approved of the suggestion of the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Mowatt), and charged the klon. and Learned Member for Youghal (Mr. Anstey) with inconsistency in the course he was taking. Mr. ANSTEY defended himself from the charge of inconsistency. Mr. ROE - BUCK did not understand what the Govern ment meant by the proviso. He wanted to know why they did not leave it to the Legislative Chambers and people of the Australian colonies to decide the ratio which should'hereatter exist between the members no minated by the Crown and those elected by the people. Mr. HAWES, in reply, observed that they recant to stand by the New South Wales Act, and adhere to the proportion fixed therein, which had been found to work well, and against whien no complaias had been made. Mr. ROEBUCK could understand that reasoninr , if this Act was me an t t o establish a fixed constitution for the colonies. But no such thing was intended, and it was required that in any tuture change of the constitution a preponderating majority—he believed two-thirds—of the chamber, should be in favour of it. Under these cir cumstance they ought to allow the colonists themselves to fix the relative proportions of the two classes of Mem bers. It made him rather suspicious to find the Govern ment thus acting. Mr. ANSTEY would not press his amendment alter what had been stated by the Hon. Gentleman of pusite (Mr. Mowat , .) The amendment was accordingly withdrawn end the clause agreed to. Clause 11 was agreed to. On clause 12, repealing so much of the sth and 6th c. 76, as required all Bills altering the salaries of judges to be reserved for the pleasure of the Crown, Sir W. MOLES\VORTH inquired what was the cause of this alteration. According to the clause as it now stood, judges' salaries might be reduced in any of the other four Australian colonies; while in Now South Wales it could not be done without being reserved fir the consent of the Crown. He thought the clauso ought to be reserved for farther considerwion. Mr. HAWES said the point had not before occurred to his; but perhaps the House would consent to let the clause stand as it was for the present, and, on the report, he would see what could be done with respect to it. Mr. ROEBUCK urged the postponement of the clause. Lord J. RUSSELL said it would always depend upo❑ the instructions of the Governor what Bills of that kind he should give his assent to; and for his guidance in this case it was proposed to repeal the restrictions exist ing with respect to New South Wales. He did not now argue whether that was right or not. He only stet :d its purport. Mr. ROEBUCK again urged the propriety of post poning the clause for further consideration. The Honourable Member also objected to the governors of any of these colonies being empowered, without the special assent of her Majesty, to alter any of the judges' salaries. There was no principle more Important than that judges' salaries should not ho altered while in office. Lord J. RUSSELL said the salaries ofexisting judges would not be altered. Sir W. MOLESWORTH said the clause did not agree with the 17th clause, which gave the power of settling the salaries of judges; governors, and "none other," were exempted from the operation. The clause made it lawful fur the colonial legislature and the governor to pass an Ant for altering the salaries of judges. Mr. ADDERLEY said, that the alteration of judges' salaries was entirely a local affair ; and he thought it would be better to leave that question as it was. Lord J. RUSSELL should net object to a proviso to tha effect that no alteration in the salaries of the judges in existence should take place, and he would not oppose the Hon. Gentleman if he proposed one. The clause was then a'i•eed to. Clause hi. Mr. E. DENIsoN moved ai amendment on this clause, " givii,g powor to t!:e separate colonies to ve:l, lease, or otherwise dispsse of the waste lands of the Crown in each several colony." It was desirable to con sider the land of the colonies as the inheritance of the poor. The Govornunnt had left its disposition, how ever, to the federal assembly. and he (Mr. E. Denison) did not believe it could be lel, in worse hesucts. The Legislative Assembly of South Australia had expre3.fd its opinion on the plan propcmed; and it was to the effect that the federative assembly was of no manner of use. The same opinion na.s expret;t;ed by the Gov , ..;rnor of Van Dieraerea Land, though the Noble Lord at the INCUMBERED .ES'T'ATES. TO THE EDITOR OF " SAUNDERS'S NRWS LETTER." Mount Baylee, County Clare. Sir,—Having heard and read a great deal about tho English Solicitor-General's Bill respecting in cumbered estates in Ireland, permit me through the medium of your paper to offer a few suggestions thereon. That English lawyers are now at the eleventh hour most anxious to do all they know ho iv to do for Ire land I am quite willing to admit; however, it unfor tunately often happens that where we are most dis posed to confer benefits a want of knowledge of the mode in which the boon is to be conferred renders our good intentions nugatory, particularly where an English view is taken of an Irish question. Of this we had a laughable instance when Sir E. Sug den was Chancellor here. The whole rural popula tion was in arms at the time of the Terry Alt dis turbances in the south of Ireland—ail law, order, and even common decency, was set at naught in the fair province of Munster, and a Cabinet Council was held at the Castle to devise what was the best mode of cure for such a diseased state of society. The then Lord-Lieutenant thought it only proper to ask Sir Edward, as the first law lord of the Crown, his opinion, when his Lordship stated that in his opinion the posse comitatus should be called out. The late Chief Baron O'Grady, who perhaps understood Ire land as well as any man in it at the time, gave him one of his comical looks, and said " They are out already, but if your Lordship will devise some means by which they may be sent home again we will be obliged to you." So it is, I am certain, with this law, knight or ba ronet=no matter which he is, I am bound to believe as anxious for the welfare of Ireland as Sir Edward Sugden, and there was no honester man ; but he "lacks local knowledge." Supposing him to be as honest as I give him credit for, could he not intro duce a clause into his Bill by which persons whose poperties are not hopelessly encumbered could convert the present incumbrances on their estates into the securities contemplated by this Bill. This would let a large amount of English capital into the market which now lies idle, and enable proprietors who are now suffering " all the ills which life is heir to" from Chancery receivers, to become employers on a large scale, absolutely creating thereby a large class of con sumers of excisable commodities. Surely it is as plain as that one and one make two, that if it is for the benefit of the country that strangers with insufficiency of capital are assisted by the Government to possess themselves of estates, it must be more to the advantage of the community that those who have them already should be permitted to retain them. A thousand asso ciations connected with the old proprietor of the soil will have their value in a neighbourhood which would never exist were a stranger to supply his place. " Bear and forbear" has always been the Irish - pea sant's motto in his dealings with the old blood of the land. How far it would be applicable in the event of the substitution of a new proprietary, I, as an old denizen of Ireland, well know. Tne materials of which said proprietary are to be formed do not. They little know the expectations which the Irish peasant foreshadows to himself of the new master who is to replace the old. They expect that his hand never will be out of his pocket; that the most trifling Irish service will be repaid with English gold ; and,' after all, that the balance will be in the favour of the giver, not of the receiver, as the ready wit, the jest, the repartee, which is inseparable from the Irish lord of the soil, will always be wanting where the plain matter-of-fact—John Bull with his thousands to back him—is concerned. No; trust me; let the English millionaire get fair interest for his capital, all I believe he wants, and he will find it his advantage to leave "Ireland to the Irish"—they best under stand it, believe me. I have heretofore laboured suc cessfully in my vocation to get our properties rid of the trammels of Chancery —may I now see my exer tions as fortunate where the new Act is concerned. Your obedient servant, H. J. BAYLEE. The new screw-steamer Propontis, Capt. Brenan, arrived in the Thames yesterday from Constantinople, with a full cargo and about twenty passengers. The Propontis left Liverpool for Gibraltar, Malta, and Constantinople, with a cargo of 3 , 30 tons of goods, on the Ist March, reached Gibraltar on the 7th, sailed thence the 9th, arrived at Malta on the 13th, and sailed thence the 14th, and arrived at Con stantinople on the morning of the 19th, having made the passage, deducting the stoppages at Gibraltar and Malta, in sixteen days. After remaining a week at Constantinople the Propontissailed for Smyrna, Malta, Gibraltar, and London, and arrived here on the 19th, having made the return passage in seventeen days. INFLUENCE or ASSOCIATION.—I rem ember once seeing an advertisement in the papers, with which I wasminch struck ; and which I will take the liberty of reading :—‘, Lost, in the Temple Coffee-house, and supposed to be taken away by mistake, a n oa k en s ti c k, w hich has supported its master not only over the greatest part of Europe, but has been his companion in his journeys over the inhospitable deserts of Africa : whoev er w ill restore i t to t h e wa i ter will confer a very serious obligation on the advertiser; or, if that be any object, shall receive a recompense very much above the value of the article restored." Now, here is a man, who buys a six penny stick, b ecause i t i s useful ; and, totally forgetting the trilling causes which first made his stick of any consequence, speaks of it with warmth and affection; calls it his com panion; and would hardly have changed it, perhaps ; for the gold stick which is carried before the king. But the best and the strongest example of this, and of the customary progress of association, is in the p ass i on o f avarice. A child on l y loves a guinea because it shines; and, as it is equally splen did, he loves a gilt button as well. In after-lite he begins to love wealth, because it affords him thecomforts of existence ; and then loves it so well, that he denies himself the common comforts of life to increase it. The uniting idea is so totally forgotten, that it is completely sacrificed to the ideas which it unites. Two friends unite against the person to whose in troduction they are indebted for their knowledge of each other; exclude him their society, and ruin him by their com bination.—Sydney Smith. LORD•LIEUTENANCY OF IRELAND. Colonel DUNNE gave notice, on behalf of the Hon. Member for Meath, that on Lord John Russell moving for leave to briny in a 13111 to aboli s h the office of Lord- Lieutenant of Ireland, he should move the previous que3- tion in an amendment, and that the House considered Ireland, and particularly Dublin, to be sufficiently impo verished already.- - (A laugh.) AUSTRALIAN COLONIES BILL. Mr. MOWATT gave notice that, on the, bringing up of the report on the Australian Colonies Bill, he should move an amendment to the effect that the maximum number of members to be nominated by the Govern ment should in no case exceed a fourth of the whole number of such assembly. WINDOW-TAX. Mr. BLACKSTONE gave notic;ihat, on the motion for going into Committee of Supply, he should move that the House do resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, for the purpose of considering so much of the 3d and 4th Viet., c. 17, as imposes an addi tional duty of ten per cent. on the window-tax, with a view to its repeal.—(H ear , hear.) KILRUSH UNION. Mr. P. SCROPE wished to ask the Right Hon. the Secretary for Ireland whether he was aware of the pre sent state of the Kilrush Union. During the last week the out-door system of relief had been suspended, which had deprived no less than 9,000 individuals of the means of subsistence, for the sole purpose, as it would seem, of ascertaining how matsy would live and how many would die without relief, the workhouse being too full to admit of their being taken in. He wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman whether ho thought such a state of things could be . justified. Sir W. SOMERVILLE knew' nothing of the facts officially, but he would make inquiries, and answer the question to-morrow. PUNISHMENT OF DEATH. Mr. BRIGHT presented a petition from a place in Lancashire against the granting of beer-house licences; also a petition from Glasgow against the punishment of death; and se vera l petitions from Monmouthshire, Staleybrid ges and Colne, in favour o f internatio nal ar bitration. METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS BILL. In reply to Lord D. STUART, Sir G. GREY intimated that it was his intention to move the second reading of that Bill to-night. H o un .. derstood no opposition would be offered to it, but an opportunity would be afforded to l'ilirmbers, previous to going into Committee, to make any representations on the subject of the measure. VACANT DEANERY OF BRISTOL. In reply to 11r: STHERBERT, Lord J. RUSSELL said it was not his intention to bring which had b ecome vacan t by the death of Dr. Lamb, in a measure to prevent the deanery of Bristol, being conferred- upon a master of a college. IRISH SPIRITS. Colonel CHATTERTON asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he h a d a ny intention to make an altera tion- tion in those regulations of the Board of Inland Revenue (Ireland) by which Irish-made spirits were charged duty, not on the quantity delivered out of bond, but on the quantity on finall y put into store? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re plied that he had no such intention. SAVINGS' BANKS AND STAMP DUTIES. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then said he wished to give notice, in the fi rst place, that on this day w e ek h e would move for leave to introduce that Bill which he had not been able to introduce be fore, although it was one of considerable interest—he meant the Bill for the future regulation of savings' banks. —(Hear, hear.) It was exceedingly desirable that no discussion should take place upon the introduction of that Bill. H e hoped that the House would allow him to make an explanatory statement in introducing the mea sure, as it was desirable that no misunderstanding should NAVIGATION LAWS. Mr. RICARDO wished to know if any communica tions had taken place between the Governments of France and England with respect to the regulations on British shipping, and more especially with respect to those coming from Asia, Africa, and America. Lord PALMERSTON said there were communica tions going on generally with the French Government respecting those alterations in the French system which would be the natural consequences of the Passenger Act of last teision, bet he was not able at present to state the result. EDUCATION BILL. Tho Earl of ARUNDEL and SURREY said he had that morning received a letter from the Hon. Member for the West Riding, correcting a statement which had appeared in a report of his (the Earl of Aruudel's) speech on the Hon. Member fur Oldham's Education Bill. He had been reported to have said that Mr. Fronde, hat been appointed to the presidency cf the new Manchester College, whereas it appeared from the Hon. Member's letter that the college was not yet formed, nor had any appointment yet been made. ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION BILL. Mr. HORSNIAN wanted to know if he had under stoeci the Noble Lord at the head of the Government that he would proceed with the Ecclesiastical Commission Bill on Friday ? Lord J. RUSSELL said he intended to go through the Australian Colonies Bill in Committee before he could speak with any certainty. Mr. DISRAELI said he wished to notice the statement of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that he did not expect there would be any discussion on his mo tion for next week, and he wished to state that he thought it very probable, considering the interest with which the subject was regarded out of door, and the unfortunate delay which had taken pine; that the sub ject would not be passed over without an y discussion. ADL 7 LTERAYIOIOI6O - FFEE. Mr. ANSTEY gave notice that on an early day he should move for papers in continuation on the adultera tion of coffee. AUSTRALIAN COLONIES BILL. The House th en went i nto C omm i ttee on the Austra lian Colonies Bill. On clause 7, Mr. V. SMI TH said that, at the risk of exciting laughter, he mu s t sa y t h at t h ey were going on much too fast with this Bill. The last clause had been agreed to with very little deliberation, - especially the last part of it. As regarded the New South Wales Bill, its history could not be too frequently told, as it did not, appear to be *very well under s t oo d. N ow t h at Bil l was more a makeshifs than a piece of legislation. From 1788 to 1823, the C o l ony was treated more like a prison-house than anything else, and so illegally did the House act towards it, that in the year 1823 the Government was compelled to bring in an Act of In demnity, and from that year up to 1339 the House was engaged in discussing how they should deal with the colony. In 1840 the Noble Lord at the lased of the Government brought in the Bill under which th e government of the colony at present existed. It was proposed to continue the operation of that Bill for ten years, and now that the period had elapsed, it was high time that they extended to all the Australian colonies similar institutions that were enjoyed by our North American colonies. They now, however, proposed to leave the colonies to shift for themselves; but when he looked at the vast amount of emigration which bad recently been carried on with our Australian colonies, he thought it was too bad to deprive them of the advice of the mother country. Besides, it was proposed to leave the matter to be settled by the as sembly. Now the assembly did not represent a third of the colonists, and he doubted much whether the decision would be satisfactory unless some change was made in its constitution. He had the authority of 23 diff.lent members of the assembly in New South Wales, for saying that there was no objection in the colony to the admission of the "squatting " interest, which was composed of a most in- . fluential, intelli gen t, an d respectable body of persons. He thought the House ought to con sider wh e th er i t wou ld not b e advisable to admit this large class into the new assembly, and make them to have a voice in the decision of those important questions, the settlement of which was afterwards to diverge into the constitution of this important colony. Mr. HAWES said the Bill had been introduced with an intention of leaving the existing constitution of Nev South Wales as near as possible, if not exactly, in the same state in which it now stood. It was possible that various improvements might be suggested in the Bill, but the express wish of the coloeiste was that it should not v.Lry from the old New South W a l es Act. His Right Hon. Friend (Sir Vernon Smith) , said a promise %vas held out when toe Bill was intro- I timed that the colony ;should have represe n t a ti ve ' head of the Colonial-office differed from him on the sub' ject. Under these circumstances was it desirable to Elf' legate to that assembly the management of the Wo re lands in the colonise? In the first place, it was more than probable that assembly would not meet, - for thsr e was no induceme n t ; but supposing it did, the interests of the colonies would cause a difference. Stju tn Australia, for instance, was satisfied with the present stew of things as regarded the waste labels. Van Die; moo's Lend was every d a y i ncteas i ng i n popu l at i on . 0 " becoming less and less waste. New South Wales wei u purely pastural country, where five or six acres wee: required to feed one sheep. The upset price of the Li nd was originally Sc. an ac re, b u t th e Colonial office ba d raised it to 11. What w as t h e consevence? In 1837 ... 360;000 acres were sold. 1838 ••• 315,000 99 1839 ..• ...' 285,000 „ 1840 ••• . . 159,000 ft 1843 ••. 4,000 a 1844 ... 4,000 99 1845 ... ... 7,000 99 1846 7,000 But the population in 1837 was only 85,000, while in 1846 it was 196,000, or more than double. Tee o e ! wua referred to the Colonial Commi-sioners sittieg iu Birdcage walk, but they agreed that the price of thelto 4 was not high enough, and sent out instructions °f cordingly to the colony. Thi s b e i ng t h e case, how w°tla ~b the matter stand in the f e d erat i ve assem bl y , , would be composed of twelve members from New Sou ;b Wales, four from Victoria, five from Van Diems' s Land, and Adelaide four? The majority would be non . stantly in Sydney, and there could be no doubt that they would make the price of all other land equal to that i° New South Wales. lie (Mr. B. Denison) though!, 6 : there was at present no less th an h a lf t h e l an d fajta °. the colonies devoted to emigration, a portion of the r e '. maiuder should be applied to the use of the lahourieg poor. Thee() was now a large Chinese emigration in,s ° the Australian colonies, whos e l a b our as Shepherds 001 11 be had equally good and much c h ea p er thtsa Bugg% labourers. Ile was of opi n i on t h at t h e contro l of the waste lands in each colony should be left to the tures of the respective colonies. This was the amend ment of which he had given notice, and which ho sub mitted to the Committee. Lord J. RUSSELL said the view which the Gofer: ment was disposed to tak e o f t hi s quest i on was WI; The colony of Western A us t ra li a was foun d e d w ith the best intentions by Sir G. Murray, but it never made a n y progress owing to the l arge grants o f l an d t h at h a d been given to the first settl ers , an d t h e i mped i ments o ffered cut' tivation these means to th e c ons t ruc ti on o f roa d s an d the ell`, tivation of the country. These evils were brought be fore the public by Mr. Wakefield, and in 1831 Lord Grey, then Under-Sec re t ary f or t h e Colonies, pro Po ss to Lord Ripou, then C o l on i a l S ecretary, to sell the lan at ss. per acre. After this it was raised to 12sa 1113 d subsequently to V. In 1842, af t er muc h di scuss ion, some inquiry by a Select C omm i t [ { e o f t h e H ouse , passed through Parliament (5 and 6 Viet.), by which was decided that the pri ce o f l an d was no l onger to decided by the Colonial-office, and that a uniform *3 l ; tern of disposing of waste l a nd s s h ou ld b e f o ll owe d. That Act also reduced the power of licensing for pasture t 3 , s i year's duration; audit provid e d th a t the proceeds of ea e i, sale should be divisibl e l i d o t wo parts, one of whie should be applied to the public service of the respective colonies, and the other to the promotion of e migratil from the United Kingd o m. I n t h e present B i l l i t deemed requisite to adhere to the uniformity principle! 1842; because if each colony was to • have a separate tern of disposal and no unif orm i t y o f pr i ce, the I,d9it's; tare of one colony mi 4 l i t cons id er t h at another c e'°"- where land should be cheaper was holding out temP e tions to emigrants, which would he a great evil. (Lord J. Russell) believed that the Congress of ar t United States always d ec id e d t h e pr i ce o f l au ds. '- efts plain, therefore, that the preposition of his 'II °'' Friend wits an objectionable one . But, upon censele'; ation, he believed, also, th at th ere were valid objset ice a , to a federal legislature having power over the lands in colonies; and believing, also, that it' Was 6° , likely, it constituted, it'would come seen into operatl",l he was of opinloa th a t th e b est course to pursue vv°°'d be to, omit the provision for a federal legislature, s u i leave the whole qurstion of was t e l ands as i t e xiste` o under the Bill of 1842. He, therefore, s h ou ld pn°P°?,a that no introduction of the subject should take place the clause. Mr. DIVBTT agreed with his Hon. Friend and the Noble Lord as to toe uselessness of a federal teghilatute.: The colonies of South Australia did not de s i r e to be (I L ,. ridden by Sydney, whi c h would be the resialt „ t clause as it stood. He th oug ht t h at t h e h eat th i n g ti., ,uld be done for the colonies and for the country v l l O to leave lead as it stood under the Bill of 1842. was convinced that if the principles of that Act we"' adhered to there would be an additional emigration South Australia every year. The system of sellinbr land at a minimum price of 1/. per acre was the b est that could be adopted. There could be no doubt lua to the bast and most popular plan in the colonies wa s adhere to the present system. I n a co l on i a l paper the conduct of the Colonial Commissioners had been 7 30 pugned, but this, from hi s own persona l observation was enabled to contradict. Il e h a d a l ways noticed ill these gentlemen the best disp os iti on to d o equa l and . justice between the coloni es an d t h e emigrant labour to, population. The Hon. M em b er hero read an extra ° , from the South Australian Gaz e tt e an d Alining Jouin b a; to which be had referred. With th e exceptio n of 1 1 abuse of the Commi tsious, W. - ash ho had already oa t h , was totally undeserved, the views laid down in 1. paper in question we r e th ose w hi c h he h a d reason 4.0 believe were generally entertained. He wished to apt a a with respect to the squatters generally, but ho woo' wish to state some of the featurosof the system of sclu eti Sorge of the squatter s h e ld enormous tract s of land. The number of l a nd li cences was 2,347, but among those who had .them were 465 persona who bald as follows:- 298 held 73 „ 33 „ 14 19 14 „ ....... 3 Of 4 „ 2 „ ... 400,000 „ 1 „ 2 „ and 2 „ (Hear.) The gentleman who furnished that s tatenl e o l l asked what inducement h a d t h ese men to purchase I:sa at any price? It was to their interest to keep laud re thinly populated as p oss ibl e, and to get labour w'' t o they could get it at the cheapest. He was not goblg t he object to this syst em as f ar as i t went, as he believeo co prosperity of the colony h a d b een i n the first inir'lthe mainly promot e d b y t h ese part i es; but he thong-toe price of land ought not to oome from those parties. fi oc..eration of Lard Stanley's Bill had been most b ene e d mai. The numb e r o f acres so ld i n a f ew years a raoo o , l o% to 201,444, and the amount realised was 250,8731 e bet l es at the rate of 255. 7d. p er acre . S o a d vantsgeo o9 be this system, that capitalists had been attracted t 0 colony, and the best results had followed. It could l be expected that aff a ir s s h ou ld a l ways go on so /ewas well; but his firm conv i c ti on was, if the se stet°, on continued to be carried out, th a t no t on l y t he of te n. but the neighbouring region, would be equally bene" It was most s a tisfa c t or y to h ear t h e Noble Lards sr e m s as it would be found the safest way, under ail cireo stances, to adhere to the Act of 1842. ' cord Mr. ROEBUCK did not agree w i t h t h e N o ble —, is in thinking that a demand for a general assembly er i ca unlikely to be made. With reference to the bound 4l ba of colonies, they ought to b'; perfectly definits--; be limits ought not to be over la rge , b ut they alight 4 t, well defined. When these limits should have been Government would have cleared the way to a P r°l3 l o . system cf management for the land fund. If the c al f nits had the hope and expectation of a general assso, l l ;', left to them, he was satisfied the colonies would rap t de expand and grow up. But it was essential to define ' tss limits of each colony. There should be no dispute t h to boundary between Victoria Colony and New S° 6 i t Wales. It was on e o f hi s quarre l s w i th this B ill that a made no provision for determining the boundary 06 limits of each colony. If thi s was done, it would Luto be ascertained how much of the l an d b e l onge d to th e local legislature, and how much was the apPan t4 ; of the poor, rather the labouring p eop l e of Grej% Britain. All the land within certain li m it s w as ," be considered the property of the colo n i s t s — a ll wits out the limits the property of Great Britain. He a510 .. .': the Noble Lord to look at the question as a states's:l% In planting colonies, let Government get rid' of the of a subject dominion—let Government consider a C O o t lony as an enlargement of this island—an extension England. This /would be acting up to the spirit of age. Give to each colo n y th e area if th e y wo uld, bus A g give the eglonists the full control over that area• the lands Zutside of this area, until there was a geoe.' o , assembly, were to be c ons id ere d as un d er t h e dorninly, and as belonging to England, for the use of the poP O ., And why did h e a d v i se t hi s ? B ecause i t was n ot 11 0 likely Government would create more colonies, an d re .. an indefinite limit were left to the boundaries of the p. sent colonies, the circumstance would ultimately leactle'r, serious disputes and quarrels. Government, now, e r th had hitherto never taken this trouble with our 1 0 , Atnetican colonies, nor with our Australian e0! ° ,, 13 00 and now there was almost a quarrel between Vi e s"' and New South Wales about a question of bound a r y .: —(Hear, hear.) The r eason why he wished 136rfi : s o meat to draw the line of the colonies was, boa" he was not going to g i ve u p t o t en o r tWes. S ti f Y or two hundred thousand colonists, who Is is a d ~ happen to be settled on th e la n d, a ll th e c ontrol A advantage of the whole of the land, which might o%to through a very wide circumference. He would else Sta ou tend the system of limitation an d d e fi n iti o n to bad Africa. In our colonies in America we no longer two the power to dispute the point. He s aw n o precatli t o taken in this Bill to prevent the sa me thi ngs which is occurred in our American colonies from eceurril ob to our Australian colonies. He counse ll e d the f oo d. Lord, when he could get light so eas ily, no t to go ' long into darkness. d 001 Mr. AGLIONBY said, as th e N o bl e Lord dtto intend to make any alteration in the disposal Of ? o f lands, he should' not ha ve t rou bl e d t h e H ouse wit,,u new remarks, hai it not bee n f or th e H on . an d Learneu,a tleman's speech, Mu c h o f t h at H on. and L earn ed A i l i v oy . her's argument he agr e ed w i t h , b ut t h ere was a f" in some parts of it, which he wished to point o f considered the suggestion for defining colonial lito l ,"" % , o f an admirable and valuable sugeestion, and wortt lxv . adoption. The next point of the Hon. and Learned', : to bet had reference to the disposal of the waste lands. ds Hon. anti Learned Gentleman wished the outsickht_a' t ' be should belong to this country, and the lands inside tb ia boundary to th e l oca l l eg i slature . H e did not s!''ia was a necessary conc l us i on to the - premises cf th e t w its Member. H e did rot tea why the lands inside the It of the colony should belong to the colonistr, any iui e a than the lands outside of too limits, lie was of °l3i'aor that colonists h a d 'no right to dispose of or cial t° right over the waste land s of colonies which they p er , :6t - ' .- T3 11 . t. e 'Leh 4 practice wet; ti!e pres.ut case? It ' wi ts pnsser over the ,4%64 Produce ; . 1, ' ! of lag, Bt to. price titU separation trot 'd advi!e the I 1 hada in the hand h. 110BUIi ed Gove C rratent tho' tity of syster e i 0 ow 11 °,,''.e ie ur North Aro [ Mr. 4°. ii, sMITH c tacit reierving a pow n 4 at least in not rett 0, their own expou3' °our eoloaisl sy3ter :t'l,' :Cti oar eOlOllOl :C'4.ll:,raber wai Pr' " 0 , at leut these v ,k"1, cost this count " 4111 Y, if we include iligkr monopoly, whel 1 4r, I)ISR &ELI ro ettitl legislation it kember to enter in tll4. lie was unwil ket fairly and li beral iliPEalt on in atters be ar t he oltmratts Protest al k.te IMAN ; r i n IA R ! Ttober to go on' in ,; elonie analogy be' "4,l.btfore the Cotnntl , 411 %,j, 13. SMITH '44led was not in Strican colonizatit SO 4 the ?resident o tZ4ll%d been entered 40 0 they should supP `lstl haying th e et , k. rI4SOIjOHEI ip4,itttion; and it wa s Zwtoilld be extrenac th'44k. While he '4:l:ijataw4eulodtibtehilBee:oirl ~t gpt e up an the , defeudinc. it s p ea: Wtr part tethe globc h4r. 114131;ICE: .1 ~t'l had changed thi d a d with the elan „it h 1 accerdanc 01% lIA.WtS he' :,14141 not press his' (.71(4 would then rte . I the nlau -No Des Act woa htr' I)4RA.ELI a tAllitaits 1 did of the colt) t,'„not , interf en .4„'44tioti which nnuit t, O r ' 44W ES said „4'411 lievv South IttLY q South Au -<iitheru boandary 16,hwLttigeessary to d ti;kvit , and that 1),,,1 tic; cleans un ;4jP . ""ati4 ; but th at 1,. bIS'II9 be discusser ,ORA,ELI Ptketit,4led tha hied tN4lll9t kerely as (3''lL but hctween '' e "; he ) It 1 iht sr, Is !titteation of th e P. hotaucx k - old-51)4)e cot i;?Ir. 41)411,LE1 ON of the wast t 044 time felt perfe : 1' :::' d''Plitrlid' t P i e e B ei g ndj rill° ed6rilicullic i-: the tameag cull l" Ithich raight to corn e ? II 0;44%, particula i-111.(eheol, to one c t , t eli the latui fin 144',1? whose man tmitOin of which N% of the con kkation which 41.11 t ,000/. wortl 41:gratits 2,000 4 ta ~t4,l'ot 2 61, or o 111'd';',(Elear, hear fait the syste 4.4 t While they fix' '.44,14% offered it t5-ir.e4eit etnigrati 1,104 e It Etatial) ' l iteY" the waste la 141'1ti lt 1 q the poor of Ne, it roust .48144dd be rivl q,'," W. ttoLL's st e t did ti th. ,rhd , . control Ik7 l. d toe ereessit3 R-11:4tiE'S of the r ,s',i,' a. 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