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Captain lliloorsom, the engineer of the line, entered into a ita tnent of the engineering peculiarities of the line, gradients, ftunnels, cuttings, and embankments, which he represented to be avourable. H e put in the plans and sections, and explained them detail, the part i culars of which have already been given in the report of the Commons' Committee. th :lt. M i ll er, civil engineer, was examined generally respecting was adduced li ne, which h e represented to be well laid out. Hi s ev id enc e evidence. principally in corroboration of Captain Moorsom's The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow at eleven o'clock. /XX oxporau, WCIZCEST3III, .AND W°L MIZI-LFLIVIPTON 13,A5:1:4 1 7211r. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday. ) Af eon -ex amined by Mr. HOPE—He had not been examined ore the House of Commons. A line through Birmingham to —on was v ery desirable, yet he considered there ought to be an entrance into London than by the London and Birming. Maui i• the I ne, as then th e p u bli c would b e muc h b et t er p rov ided for by e ompetition. He considered, as far as London was concerned, w° lines-kite through Birmingham, and another by Oxford — would be about equal in advantage to Kidderminster. He sent *out an nually in good s f rom 400 to 500 tons, an d rece i ve d i n re t urn Ir om 700 to 800 tons, exclusive of coals. The goods he sent out were a t ll " s 60.0004 in value. He u sed a bo a t of coals weekly, or 1,000 " tt a Year, vs understood that the low land on which the p .Lendon and Bi rm i ngham station was to be placed was to be em . linked upon - that would c a u se fl oo di ng . If the railway was carried Mo a rches a good d ea l of his object i on on t h at score wou ld be re tWhaeter mnlcculnaul at i th ough then he appr e h en d e d there would still be danger of ng. He attended a meeting in Kidderminster, on 01 April last. He proposed the first resolution. An I - „, n ' me a was proposed in favour of the other line, but bese t hi,e^nva4 negatived, and the resolutions of the Great Western were carried. Mr. Aldis at the meeting, he (Mr. Leigh) represented the advantages of the London and Birming. In i i: ea b r. r c i o n n ging the Banbury wool market in connexion with rgeiddieledirmnle::cn H ne e x tid n bot himself think there was much advan. Mr, Paul Matthews said he was manager of fire-clay-works near Stourbrid Be. They produced about 7,000 tons of manufactured :"vies Yearly, principally fire-bricks and crucibles. They sent a ie e h isiedderable quantity of these to the south. The Great Western - o d ft _ r l 'ae, as far as the town an d su b ur b s were co ncerned, would the greatest amount of accommodation. e "pas- examination of this witness did not elicit any point of eterial importance. The l a i r e . o l-1 , ill, town clerk of the city of Worcester, deposed as to Ile of the people of that place in respect to the proposed b ort ; ne recollected being present at a public meeting of the by u gh in the City-hall last year, when resolutions were carried The a larg e majority in favour of the Great Western scheme. the achetnes were fully explained on both sides before favour to was taken. The vote was almost unanimous in Th e r the Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton. pose of the London and Birmingham then pro. ahandowr:d froth Weedon to Worcester. That was afterwards The T ow „ 1, and a new one brought forward. A meeting of th e , c ;•: Council took place on the 3d of September, at which by a ; " ° ° B were again submitted, and the Council decided and I, m a ,;', °l-it Y of twenty to three in favour of the London, Oxford, w ee ,:""erhampton. A meeting of the Chamber of Commerce I,T e . ? "eld the same day, and a similar resolution passed. In which another public meeting of the inhabitants was held, at Long o the ring line was submitted, with the other parts of the W ee , °4 and Birmingham scheme, along with that of the Great ' w hen a great ma j or i ty, i n fact near l y a ll, vo ted for reso kr: I n favou r of the latter scheme. dep os 2altuel Price Edwards, collector of customs at Southampton, th ee to the great increase in the trade of Southampton, and enahtl i t l he present line from Staffordshire and Worcester would north to be supplied with the produce of Manchester, the and the midland counties. een 7 Thom, Lister Foster, of Evesham, gave evidence as to the The en feel e .noe the line would afford to that town and neighbourhood. Air, Miller of the people was generally in favour of it. erigi e ,„.. : Id ler, civil engineer, was examined as to the comparative Wo r k i . ", rgu if Peculiarities of the competing lines. The expense of ache "t the inferior gradients on the London and Birmingham q ue „ ite would, i n his opinion, counterbalance the expense conse rauco uction i h t on the b reak of gauge by the transhipment to the other line. w Hatt eitness was cross-examined at some length respecting the of the Sco tc h ra il wa y s , but it did not seem to bear n the s ubject.matter of the examination in chief. The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow at eleven o'clock. •COTTISEC MIDLAND RAILWAY. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Tl:e ex amination of the witness was continued at considerable length, but the entire of his evidence has already appeared in the to „Furls which were published in the proceedings of the Committee the .Aollte of Comm ons. Lokosrd If W harncliffe was th en exam i ne d by Mr. Fonairrn—His hi P stated generally the traffic which might be expected ~'5 "ft the proposed line furnished sufficient grounds for the Bill to no brou ght before th e H ouse. If the Scottish Midland R a il way were not " he -e was of opinion that the east coast line would %._afford sufficient accommodation to the pubic. In the valley of tbr nore a con s id erable quantity of cattle were f a tt ene d, which La Wer e o princip a ll y sent to London and to the sou th w estern parts of v3cauteland for sale. Grain and potatoes were also produced in the Y. The weavers chiefly cultivated t h e so il. The proposed line wo uld give an i mpulse to t h e m anufactures of the district, and be believed that the inhabitants and proprietors of land there were d ecidedly in favour of it. The Marquis of Breadalbane was the next witnesse called, and be corroborated, in every particular, the evidence which had been given by Lord Wharncliffe. Mr, Buchanan, merchant, residing at Stanley, spoke generally as to the traffic from that place, and stated that the coals which were obtained from Newcastle could be procured at a much cheaper rate than at present if the railway were constructed. Mr. Jamieson, the provost of Montrose, gave similar evidence as regard. Montrose. Mr. Adams, of Blairgowrie, spoke as to the facilities which the railway would aftbrd for the conveyance of the yarn and manufac. tared goods to and from Blairgowrle, Glasgow, and Dundee. The Committee then adjourned till eleven o'clock to-morrow. WEST LONDON RAILWAY AND EXTENSION. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. Seymour Clarke, the superintendent of the goods traffic on the Great Western Railway, gave similar testimony as regarded that line. This closed the case for the promoters. Mr. M. CHAMBERS then addressed the Committee on behalf ' 3l. Lord Kensington, two.thirds of whose property would be destroyed by the , proposed railway. He contended that the sensington Canal was amply sufficient and expeditious for the traffic to the river ; but, even if it were not sufficiently expeditious, the canal might be easily converted into a railway, without in. Aiding injury on the property or rights of private individuals. Evidence having been adduced to substantiate the statement of the Learned Counsel, Mr. TataoT replied, and the room was afterwards cleared. The Committee having deliberated for a few minutes, strangers were re-admitted, when esTo:ie CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee had come to the ution to postpone their decision till Monday, and in the mean e they recommended parties to come to terms. HOUSE OF COMMONS. GROUP A. TENTEEDEN AND EYE LINE. (Coutinued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) tat Mr. Southerton, owner of fishing-smacks at Rye, spoke to the ; ar 'tages to the Rye H ar b our fi s h er y w hi c h wo uld ensue from b` Making of the proposed line. It was very difficult to get a ra.9tet for All the fish caught. He himself had sometimes been iged to sell AS many as seven waggonloads of fish for manure. rn wa ggon -load was equal to 125 bushels. All that he had sold for r i'i n , nre might be sent to London and sold as food, if there were a baacZaY communication, He was frequently obliged to throw fish 1.. se inetroethae sea, hezving no market for it. The fishery would I ,,, n iVert a much ..sere greater number of men than it does at present, if a . dents of line from Rye to London. The Ashford and Hest' logs would give no accommodation to the fishery. in Mr . Wilsted stated that his father and himself had been super- Harbour for forty years up to the present time, the gave evidence as to the improverneot which would be made in bbe;euxecibet a ht r eo b r o t 1 fer the e ocherb by i t h h e i s s ~ and the injury which would be done e-,i_r' to a farmer and surveyor of roads al Bennington, improvement of the roads of that place which would Pro r Z usd bY the cheapening of material, resulting from the lie, if the Bill were passed. The roads were ma uf sea beach " "b ac ,, - , that is, shingle obtained from the sea- shore. . This the e ,:: " WM obtained at Rye Harbour, and would be carried on th e ;:.:Yesed lin e. It might then be conveyed much cheaper b y rare:Trohed than it could by the present mode of conveyance. ta.ti Moo n° nra Psen stated that he had been employed by Cap 1 such re to take notes of the traffic which might be expected on stati on a j in e as the proposed Tentenden and Rye. He had Itoi ml `" (c ar men at th e follow i ng p l aces—one a t Pl a yden, one at 11ird..2t90, one at Bird's Isle, and one at Tentenden. lie hatiliee was about a mile north of Tenterden. doing ah re Peetedly visited them to see what they were sp o k e ' a ; d to _ eePy the notes which they had taken. The witness noting d llntn e length to the precautions against error,. and been tak e , b. °"/,_l! traffic such as would not be available, which had c row ;: e nun, and by the persons he employed. Were xarein _, ed by Mr. D. HILL—The four persons he employed t . ; hed baneee Sr..-sa , 1-• “iest Goble, Fin, and Snow. Goble, who was sta ;ln-. at nolvington, had been master of the union workhouse; r tdght who w as stationed at Tenterden, was a tailor. He likely to nine of his own trade to a man, but would not be to enlint nine men for one tailor.—(A laugh.) Snow, smualigardener's labourer, and had been stationed at Bird's Isle, and Static, was stationed at Playden. There was another ma n at a fifth 4 bthrsottr,dbut as th e traffic at that place might be conveyed by the taie an d Hastings branch line, it had been struck out of the kr. " the P a ssing of that Bill l ' a bta 4viar Ys a eoaLmerchant at Tenterden, spoke to the asedd line. ge to the coal trade which would be produced by the proposed tine. beCoalconwsuomuledd be rendered much cheaper by the cheaper wo aid ge and the result would be that a much greater quantity Mr. Batch would s tated that from 3,400 to 3,500 tons of lime were imported greerl annually ao Tenterden for manure. This line it rauchYtfactate the carriage of lime, and would therefore make the load cheaner. l' The present expense of carriage of lime from load going to Tenterden was 15s. per waggon load, a waggon ni g elnal Mr ii to two tens. throo' ernes, a land surveyor, said that the value of the land R... 114 Which this line passed was 18 , 2881. I ls. He knew --, 4Etori, Mr. On .. 8 field called " Staving Den," and which was the worst land tv eUld ne "tie ' ;h al .ilniet: bhtle:llte ftizh He thought the part of this land which by the railway would be snore valuable than the as at present. lie thought Major Curtiss's land improved by the railway. i: ..: • Curtiss (a relative of Major Curtiss, a petitioner against the ;:avah'iwas then called, and gave evidence of the advantages de from e front this line. He thought Major Curtiss was mistaken n ° l 3 P o sing this line, which would greatly increase the value of his Property tdll!_trte.ele.frenvaers then said that his evidence was now concluded, be:sig no evid ence to b e produce d on t h e ot h er s id e, t h e thr ii ed Counsol proceeded to address the Committee in favour of the P r °Posed line, and dwelt at great length on the evidence as to v h ,!,_ t atlie Which had been given by the various witnesses, and ca::, e l l : ii sb t ee he n e p o u lti b ut lis h h , cd cif a T t h l e en s g u th . ,. from time to time as it oc ate l: t r , , D. Him. addressed the Committee on the part of the Railway Company, and in reply to Mr. Hildyard, he Pointed out shortly what he considered the advantages of the Ashfordi., and Hastings branch, and th e di sa dv an tages of the enterden and Rye line. The object of the Learned Counsel's Pe terde e _ ch Was principally to show that the greater length of the sin and In Rye line was not sufficient to account for the excess t he estimates of the expenbe of that line over those of the Ash e6ford and Ha st i ngs branch line. The expense of the former was wthuated at 500,000/ . That of the latter would be 140,0001. There ~s _ a a O nly a difference of 11 miles between them, the difference of ex '''„_le b e i ng 360,000/. tesavra.rtcoLf aatsox then addressed the Committee at some length on 414 O ' Ciel Major Curtiss, after which the Committe djourned at IMPORTANT DECISION. YORK LINES. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. ATKINSON valued the land from the River Trent to the Don, a distance of 18 miles, 1 furlong, and 1 chain, and he found the whole of the work to be 28,3421. Mr. John Oliver took it from the River Don, to and including Brayton, and his estimate was 24,245/. Distance, 11 miles, 7 fur long., 8 chains. Mr. George Alderson valued it from Brayton to York, and his total was 24,1361. for 12 miles, 4 furlongs, 3 chains. The aggregate amount was 94,672/. Total distance, 55 miles, 4 furlongs, and 2 chains, Mr. Padley produced a model showing the level of the River Witham, and the fall of the Delft drain into it, the object being to show how the line would pass over the country when the water was out, the criterion being the good which occurred in 1828. Mr. Sergeant WRANGHILM objected to the model on the ground that part of it was constructed on the horizontal principle and other parts on the vertical principle. On Mr. WEBSTER'S re.examination, Mr. Padley stated that this was conceived to be the best plan to construct a model, as it showed both the surface and the slope of the banks of the river and the drabs. Mr. Mance!l was recalled to speak to the traffic-tables, and stated that he had taken one quarter of the traffic between Lincoln and Torquay as due to the railway between Lincoln and Gains borough. He had taken one-third of the traffic between Gains borough and Thorne, and one.third between Thorne and Snaith. The Goo e; raffle by canal he had omitted altogether. He had taken one-sixth of the Crowle traffic for the railway. In the Selby district he had divided the traffic, and the total amount was 67,204/. He had tested these calculations by those of the London and York line, and taking all the calculations to gether he found the whole of the expense of the line from Lincoln to York to be 978,312/., and the net returns would be 67,204/., including coal with the other goods. The cross-examination of Mr. Sergeant Wranghatn occupied a considerable time, and he succeeded in very much shaking the evidence of Mr. Mancell. Mr. Webster's re-examination, however, tended to restore the confidence which should be placed on this evidence, although no new facts were elicited. The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow. MURDER OF MR. PALMER AND EIGHT SEAMEN OF HER MAJESTY'S SLOOP WASP. CONTINUATION OF THE INQUIRY. PLYMOUTH GUILDHALL, JULY 8. Lieut. Robert Douglas Stupart was sworn, and said—l am a lieutenant its the Royal Navy, and in February last I belonged to her Majesty's sloop Wasp, and was on duty in her off Lagos, in the Bight of Benin, on the coast of Africa. On the 26th of that month, at eight o'clock P.M , boarded, in the pinnace, the Felicidade, a Bra zilian two.masted schooner. She had a crew of about 28 men, and was completely fitted for the slave trade. I therefore detained her as a slave vessel, until the Wasp, which was also in chase of her, came up, which she did about ten o'clock the same evening. On the following morning gave up charge of her to the master, and went on hoard the Wasp. In the afternoon of the 27th, between four and five o'clock, I went on board the Felicidade to relieve Mr. Roberts. Captain Usher made a communication to me, and I steered a particular course. At about eight o'clock the same evening the look.out man reported a sail to the leeward. At daylight of the 28th I saw a brigantine to the windward, and after a chase of the whole day I came up to her at about ten o'clock at night. I hoisted the colours in the jolly boat, and fired a pistol, as a signal for her to heave to. She did heave to. I went close to her in the jolly-boat ; some person from the brigantine hailed us in the Portuguese language, asking who we were, I told them we were English, whereon they made sail, and I could not catch them. By the time I got back to the schooner the brigantine was out of sight. The next morning I saw the same vessel lying about five miles to the leeward of us. We gave chase, and came up with her about eight o'clock the same evening. I passed close to her, and told them to haul their sails down, which they did. I sent Mr. Thomas Palmer and eight men on board the brigantine. When he got on board lie hailed me, and made a communication. I kept her in sight all night, and on that night, or the following morning, eight of the prisoners now present, and some others, came from the Echo, the brigantine, on board the Felicidade, excepting one prisoner, the Spaniard. About nine o'clock on the2d of March I called Mr. Palmer on board the Fell cidadc, and I went on board the Echo. I found her full of slaves, there being about 434 in number. There were about 200 on deck. I went below for about an hour to attend to the slaves, who had been confined for about 48 hours. When I left the Felicidade there were sixteen prisoners, fourteen belonging to the Echo, and two belonging to the Felicidade, and eight of our men, and Mr. Palmer, James Mullins, Edward Marshall, James'Mitchell, James Baynom, Thomas Barfoot, Thomas Gold, Jack Andrews, and Joe Wilson, the two latter were Kroomen, and Thomas Gold, a marine, all belonging to the Wasp. I know prisoner Francesco Servia, and the prisoner Jonas Majoural. The Spaniard, left on board the Felicidade, did not afterwards return to the Echo. When I had been about an hour on board the Echo I got on the deck. I saw the Felicidade, with the Brazilian colours flying, coining up on our weather quarter. Some one on board hailed us to heave to. I saw the person calling himself J. A. Cequario on board the Felicidade. We did not heave to. She passed close alongside our weather beam, and fired round and grape. She parsed on, and again fired, and then escaped. I followed her until dark, and then lost sight of her, and never saw her again. On the fol lowing afternoon I fell in with the Wasp, and communicated with the Commander, and in about . five or six days took charge of the Echo, and went in her to Sierra Leone, and gave her in charge to the Mixed Commission Court, where she was condemned as law. ful capture. - The evidence was interpreted to the prisoners, and to its general purport they gave their assent. Thomas Lethbridge deposed that he was a corporal in the Wool. wich division of the Royal Marines, and that he was serving on board her Majesty's sloop Star. Early on the morning of the 6th of March, witness deposed, I saw a strange sail, which, after a chase, the Star came up with, at about three or four o'clock. One of the Star's boats was ordered out, under the command of Lieu tenant Etheridge, to the strange vessel. I went in this boat, and, boarding the vessel, that subsequently turned out to be the Felici dade, her crew was found below. At the command of the officer I went below to search them out, and in the after cabin and other parts of the vessel, hidden away, twenty.one persons were found and brought upon deck. The ten prisoners present were among that number, and so also were the other three persons calling them selves A. Saquirerio, E. F. Royegres, and Saberino de Costa. I was on board the vessel about six hours, and have no doubt as to the prisoners and the other three men being thirteen of the persons found on board. I went to the after cabin in search of papers, and there found a volume of the " Cabinet Cyclopedia" with the duck bof ags, "R. D. Stupart" on the fly-leaf. I also found some azm rk. bags, such as is used by seamen in the Royal Navy. The bags contained fl anne l an d serg e, such as i s us ed in her Majesty' s service. I also found a pa i r of clues used in sling. in gh oc ks, partly made, and a fishing line with the Govern ment In going down the main hatchway I observed several stains of blood upon the slave deck ; I also found a boat's anchor and an awning stanchion, just such as might have belonged to a were ee l b l arr y ree - c. b hns o ni a lng c o . he yade a d c also on found board a theiea lead a ar nd line . about aix Al i hoursth the after things boarding, f o nd being then abouto removed r e aro l n ei h e e n o'clockr, opportunities n in fromh. f e forenoon. steheaitn datyh en until t e ohrnh p eee r; : o 2 n da prisoners have no doubt they are the men that were tak g en fro p m r Felici dade. On the second day after they were taken on board the sentinel on duty called my attention to the heads of four of the prisoners. I looked to them, and found that each of the four had the seventh sword wound on the head. The wounds were fresh, and were attended to by Mr. King, the surgeon. When the pri soners were first brought on board I did not see the wounds, as they wore handkerchiefs tied round their heads under their hats or caps. In consequence of these wounds the four men—viz., Joze Maria Martins, Juan Francisco, Manuel Jose Alves, and Florenzo Riberrero, were placed in irons. When the wounds were discovered, the prisoners accounted for them by signs and in broken English by the falling of some portion of the mast of their vessel across their heads. The prisoners were taken from the Star to the Penelope, and sent home in the Rapid, in which vessel they arrived in Plymouth Sound on Thursday evening. The prisoners, at this stage of the proceedings, wished to know when they would be permitted to state their own case? They were told there were four other witnesses to examine, after whose examination they would be able to make whatever statement they thought proper. It being now five o'clock, the Court adjourned until tomorrow (Wednesday), at eleven o'clock. The prisoners were removed to the borough prison, and the ap provers on board the San Josef. The prisoners are all rather under-sized men. Francisco Ferira de Santo Servia, who is said to have been the captain of the Echo, is rather a fine-looking man. He wore a figured shirt, the groun d of which was yellow, open at the neck, and a cloak loosely slung over his shoulders. WEDNESDAY.—The first witness examined this morning was Lieut. Wilson, late of the Star, but his evidence was not important. The captain of the Felicidade, named Cuquirebio, was next sworn and examined through the interpreter, having first been cautioned by the magistrate that he was not obliged to say anything that would criminate himself. He said—l was captain of the Felicidade, a schooner, belonging to Bahia, in the Brazils, and she was employed in the slave trade. I left Bahia on the 6th of January, and had a crew of 33 men. I recognise among the pri soners Janus Majoural as being the only person whe was of my crew, and he was the cook. The vessel was consigned to the house of Sala and Co., at Ouin, a place otherwise known by the name of Lagos, I arrived at Lagos on the 6th of February, and sent my papers ashore, which were delivered to my correspondents. Six of my crew went in the boat, two of whom remained on shore, and the others returned on board. I then discovered a brig, which I knew to be a ship of war, bearing down upon me; the brig was in chase of us three days, during which time we lost sight of her. On the third day, we returned to Lagos, and I sent four of my crew on shore with a letter, and in about half an hour we put to sea again. The same day I saw the brig's launch and two boats, but we were not within range. I then went to sea, and was away ten days, during which time we sprung our mainmast, which we afterwards fished. In fifteen days more I returned to Lagos, and then I discovered to windward her Majesty's brig Star, and to leeward her Majesty's brig Wasp. 1 then tacked and got out of their way again. In two days I returned to Lagos, and was told that my slaves had been waiting for me on the beach, but that they had been sent back again. In consequence of orders, I was preparing to go to sea, when I discovered one of the brigs under sail. I swept along under the shore until I saw two boats and a launch coming towards us, when I loosed sail. The boats chased us all the day, and as they approached we fired at them with muskets and pistols; about:7 o'clock in the evening we were boarded ; my crew wanted to fire on the boats as they came alongside, but I ordered them not to do so, and, with the mate's assistance, I threw the powder and the muskets overboard. I was then trans ferred to the Wasp, and 25 of my crew accompanied me. The follow ing morning the Felicidade, having on board the prisoner Majoural and myself, proceeded to sea under the command of Lieut. Stupart. On the second day after sailing we saw a brigantine and gave chase. The Felicidade having neared her, the lieutenant got into a boat and went alongside, and the brigantine shot ahead and was soon out of sight. We continued to chase her, and the next morning we saw her right ahead. Between eight and nine o'clock P.M. the officer, Mr. Palmer, boarded her. When the officer heti been on board about an hour, he sent 10 or 12 men, amongst whom were the prisoners, excepting the Spaniard, Majoural, on board the Fell cidade. I had no conversation with these men until the following morning, when the prisoner Serva, the captain of the Echo, wished me good morning, and asked for some coffee. Serva then told me he was not the captain, but that he was merely a passenger. The prisoner Serva also said to me, " The Englishmen are not armed ; I have four men I can put confidence in ; we'll kill all the English men, and then we'll go and take the brigantime." I replied, " Don't you recollect there are the British cruisers around us ? The brigs and the steamer are outside, and if we do it we may be go and taken in the night, and then we shall be put to death. tell the " Serv officer a told me I had no sense, and I replied, " I will if you are that way inclined and are so vicious." Serve's brother.. in-law, who was present, then said to me, " Don't say anything to the officer, and I will say no more about it." Some exchanges took place. and ultimately Mr. Palmer and some English sailors were left on board the Felicidade. The officer having washed himself sat down on the quarter-deck, trlking with the quarter master. I went to the head of the vessel and presently, on looking round, I saw Serva looking down the hatchway and calling to the prisoners to come up on deck. He, Serva, said " Now is our time to commit the murder, for the sentry is asleep; there are three asleep and two of them are drunk, and now is our time, for there are but two men awake aft." On hearing this I ran over to Serva and said " No." By this time the men were coming up the hatchway, and, finding Serva was determined I ran to the officer and the quarter master, and told them by signs what was going on. The quarter master rose and ran towards the hatchway. He then took up a handspike and struck the men on the heads as they came up, with a view to prevent them reaching the deck. I then ran to the English sailor who was at the hel and told him by signs what was going on. He left the helm, strAT I took charge of it. This man THE s N, LONDON, FRIJDAY EVENING-, JULY 11, 1845. went forward, and taking up a handspike, assisted the quarter master. The prisoner Serva then came aft, and called to some men who were in a boat at the stern to come on board, but only one did so. Serve then remained aft, and :called out to the prisoners, " Kill them ! kill them ! heave them into the water!" I saw one of the English sailors receive a cut from one of the pri soners; he fell and was thrown overboard. He did not fall into the water, but seized hold of the shrouds, and then the prisoner Joaquim cut him over his head and arms and cut off' his fingers, so that he was obliged ,to let go his hold and he fell into the sea. While he was being cut he cried out, " Oh, Portu guese, don't kill me !" While this was going on, all the prisoners now present were on deck, taking a part in killing the sailors. Serva continued aft, and called out, " Kill them, kill them !" The prisoners used knives eight or nine inches long, with sharp points and white handles ; and these were concealed inside the waistbands of their trousers. I saw the prisoner Majoural run after the young officer (Mr. Palmer) and run his knife into his side; the officer fell against the bulwarks, and Majoural took him up by his feet and threw him overboard. All this time I had hold of the helm, but did not interfere for fear of what they might do to me. The quartermaster fought desperately; he struck the prisoner Alves on the head, and then pitched him overboard, but he swam round to the boat and was picked up. The quarter master struggled forward with the other men, and knocked several of them down. I believe he would have overpowered them all, but some of them got behind him and stabbed him in the back and side. He then fell, and died on the deck, which was covered with his blood. All the prisoners present except Serve, were concerned in this. The English sailors, who were asleep, were stabbed and thrown overboard. The two Kroo.. men belonging to the Wasp jumped overboard and swam away. When it was all over, Serva came up to me and said " Well, Cap tain, what do you think of it now ? Don't you think we have done the thing that is just in killing these Englishmen ?" Serva then lowered the peak of the mainsail, as a signal to his brother. in-law, who was on board the brigantine. He said it was agreed between them that whoever did the deed first should lower the peak of the mainsail as a signal to the other. At this time the brigantine was within sight. The witness then proceeded to detail the manner of the schooner's passing the Echo, and at the conclu sion of his examination in chief he was subjected to a severe cross examination by Mr. Edwards. _ _ • IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Julu 10. COMMONS INCLOSURE BILL. ( Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Clauses up to 125 were agreed to without a division. The CHAIRMA N reported progress, and the House resumed. MEMBER FOR ABINGDON. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL was introduced by Lord Jermyn and Mr. Forbes M'Kenzie, and took the oaths and his seat, on his re-election for the borough of Abingdon. RETIRING PENSION TO NAVAL OFFICERS. Captain PECHELL wished to ask the Gallant. Admiral op posite (Sir G. Cockburn), whether, and when, it was intended to bring forward the supplemental vote for retired naval offi cers ? They had heard it currently reported that such a thing would take place, and he (Captain Pechell) thought it per fectly fair, under these circumstances, to put the question. Sir G. COCK BURN said that the subject was under the consideration of her Majesty's Government, and he was not prepared to give any other answer than that already given by the First Lord of the Treasury the other evenin4. If fur ther information was required the Hon. and Gallant Member had better repeat his question that evening. COMMONS INCLOSURE BILL. The House again went into Committee on this Bill, and the remaining clauses were agreed to. The Chairman then left, and the sitting of the House was suspended till five o'clock. to obtain any information. If he could have got it he would have been spared the necessity of making the pre sent motion, but as it was he could only term it a gigantic scheme cf connubial collegeality. It was not very likely, therefore, that any of those fellows would choose to leave their domus laxor in Dublin for a waste parish in the wilds of the west. The sc'ence taught in Trinity College was mathematics, and for this he was ready to acknowledge the university had obtained a European reputation, but in divinity he was sorry to say the eminent examples were f.-w and far between. The corporation consisted of a provost, 7 senior fellows, and 25 junior fellows. The senior fellows received about 3,0001. a year for their services, and the juniors about 1,5001. What their duties were he never could exactly make out, but he be lieved that they were precisely in an inverse ratio with their emoluments. By the fees fur tuition, the college had an income of about 28,3161., and from the rent of land in Brunswick-street and the neighbourhood, there etas an income of 21,6841., making in round numbers 50,000/. a-year. And what was the object of all this, but to support Protestant ascendancy ? Now, he did not think that this was in any way meeting the requirements of the people of Ireland. Acade mical professorships in Trinity College were open to Protestants of all nations, whilst they were closed against the Irish Catholics. A few night ago, the Right Hon. Baronet at the heal of the Government pronounced a glowing eulogium upon Dr. Cave, who certainly was one of the first lecturers in Europe ; but yet this very Dr. Cave was unable to fill a professorship in Trinity College. A Frenchman and a Spaniard were eligible, provided they were Protestants, but an Irishman was ineligible because he was not a Protestant. They talked a great deal of repealing the penal laws, and their de sire to put down ascendancy, but they kept up an odious ascendancy in Trinity College. It was their bounden duty to extend the provisions of the Act of 1793, and admit Catholics to participate in the honours and profits of the university. A Commission had been appointed to inquire into the Scotch universities. Why not into the Irish ? The Right Hon. Baronet said there were peculiar circumstances in the case of Ireland. So there were circumstances that should compel inquiry into the Dublin University beyond any other. And if the House declined to interfere, he did not think the Royal hand could be more usefully employed than in giving consent to a Royal Commission to inquire into the state of that college. Such an act would do credit to a Sovereign who, whilst she rivalled Elizabeth in the ability to rule, infinitely surpassed her in all the softer and more re fined attributes which adorn the sex.—(Cheers.) Mr. M. BELLEW seconded the motion. He saw no reason why a test should exist in Trinity College, Dublin, any more than in the Scotch universities, where it was virtually abandoned. It was of no use to attempt to blink this question. Sooner or later this Church question must come on, and they might therefore as well settle it at once. There was one point beside, which he desired to bring before the notice of the House. And it was this. He held that it was the policy of the Government to do as much justice as possible to all the people of Ireland, except so far as it might touch the Church. Now this attempt to ex chide the Roman Catholics from the advantages of the corporate property in Ireland would prove a vain one. The Government might think that it was wise to keep this property in an exclusive position, but such was not the opinion of Edmund Burke. In 1798 he had stated that no large measure could ever be successful which did not do away with those religious distinctions, which had been the curse of the country, and he trusted therefore that no attempt would be made to persevere in this system of exclusion. He wished to say one word before he sat down, with reference to the Landlords and Tenants Commission, and all he would say upon that subject was, that the destitution existing in that country was beyond all calculation. The suggestion of the Right Hon. Baronet a t the head of the Home Depart ment of a royal commission would at once meet all the circumstances of the case, and he believed that the ?re sent Sovereign would prove in no way inferior to Eliza beth in providing for the education of Ireland. The House resumed at Five o'clock. COMMONS INCLOSURE BILL. Mr. GREENE brought up the report on the Commons 'Enclosure Bill, which was ordered to be received on Friday next. Mr. LOCKHART moved that the Committee on th Yoker Road (No. 2) be allowed to sit on Friday next. —Agreed to. The Lerde' amendments to the Lyme Regis improve ments, Markets and Waterworks, and to the Chelsea Improvements Bills, were agreed to. Mr. MACAULAY brought up the report on the South Devon and Launceston and South Devon Railway Bill. Lady Sandy's (Turner) Estate Bill was read a third time, as was the Glasgow, Barrhead, and Neilston Rail way The Lords' amendments to the London and Brighton (Horsham Branch) Railway Bill and the Belfast Im provements Bill were agreed to. Mr. LASCELLES moved—" That it be an instruction to the Committee to whom the Railway Bills and pro jects comprised in Group A stand referred, that they have power to introduce clauses in the Bill for making a railway from Bulverhithe to Ashford, promoted by the Brighton, Lewes, and Hastings Railway Company, authorising that Company to transfer the powers which may be conferred on them by such Bill to the South- Eastern Railway Company, and making the last men tioned Company to exercise such powers, or some of them, in terms of the prayer of the petition." The '.;PE AKER then put the question. Mr. GREENE said a few words, which were wholly inaudible in the gallery. The motion was agreed to. Mr. MUNTZ moved the third reading of the Glasgow, Barhead, and Neilston Railway Bill. Read a third time and passed. Mr. HAWES presented several petitions in favour of the Physic and Surgery Bill from various places in Kent, Middlesex, and Surrey. Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition from New castle, in favour of the Smoke Prohibition Bill. Mr. SHELL presented six petitions from Dungarvon and Charleville, in favour of the Apothecaries Bill ; also a petition from. Cork, in favour of a Ten Hours' Bill. Mr. Sergeant MURPHY presented a petition in favour of a Ten Hours' Bill. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. BODKIN gave notice that he should, on Monday, move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the law re lating to orders for the removal of paupers. NEW ZEALAND. Mr. C. BULLER gave notice that, on the 19th inst., he should move for copies of the correspondence which had taken place between her Majesty's Government and the New Zealand Company since the late debate. SPANISH TREATIES. Lord PALMERSTON said it was his intention, on Tuesday next, to submit a motion on the subject of the correspondence which had taken place between her Ma jesty's Government and the Spanish Ministry on the sub ject of the treaties existing between this country and Spain. IRISH COLLEGES BILL. On the motion that the Colleges (Ireland) Bill he read a third time, Mr. OSBORNEf proposed that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that she will be graciously pleased to direct an inquiry to be made into the amount of the revenues of Trinity College, Dublin, from rents of College lands, endowments and bequests, fees on matriculation, on taking degrees, and from every other source ; also into the scanner in which that income is expended, the number of senior and junior fellows, of professors, scholars, and all other officers of the college, with the amount of salary and allowances to each of them ; with a view to ascertain whether the income or funds at present applied solely to the benefit of Pro testants in Trinity College, Dublin, might not be beneficially extended, so as to make Roman Catholics and Protestant Dissenters eligible, if otherwise quell. fled, to all scholarships, and to all such fellowships, professorships, and other offices in Trinity College, Dub lin, as are not intended for ecclesiastical purposes, or immediately connected with ecclesiastical endowment. He regretted that no Member of the Government had brought for ward this subject. However much ha might regret that the matter had fallen into such in effectual hands, he would endeavour to make amends for his inefficiency by the brevity with which he dis cussed it. He did not think he could he fairly charged with any desire to throw an impedi ment in the way of the proposed measure. He had ab stained, hitherto, from entering on any of the details of the measure, because, the more he considered the matter, the greater would be its inability for the purposes proposed, unless a great alteration took place in the constitution of Trinity College, Dublin. The whole system of that college was unknown—much yet remained to be told with regard to the economy of its internal working. There were subjects which involved much consideration and inquiry before any alteration in the collegiate education was enforced. It would also be more prudent to refrain from voting a large sum of money for a pur pose which the Catholic hierarchy had unanimously de clared would not be acceptable to the Irish people.— He would, at the same time, ask Honourable Mem bers whether they knew how much the Roman Catholics of Ireland contributed out of their own resources to the support of the Catholic religion ? He could tell them these individuals alone subscribed upwards of 10,0001. annually to the propaganda of Lyons. In the course of the present session a considerable sum of money had been drawn from the consolidated fund for the endowment of the Roman Catholic clergy, contrary to the wishes and feelings of the people of England. On the present occasion they were called on to vote another sum of money from the same source—for the establishment of three colleges which had been de nounced by the Roman Catholic prelates. It was impos sible to say what other dips would be made in this great reservoir next session, but the Irish Land Commission had suggested another encroachment upon it, viz , the payment of 400,000/. to the Irish constabulary. By many these points were looked upon with indifference ; and by the Ministry this consolidated fund seemed to be regards] as a sort of Pool of Bethesda, where all the financial souls of Ireland might be healed, whenever they thought fit to trouble its waters. He saw no reason why Trinity College should not be made available to the purpeses of education in Ireland. Almost the whole emoluments of that establishment were swallowed up by its fellows. Only one in 320,000 of the Irish Catholic population were educated there, and these were obliged to pay the tutors, but were never allowed to participate in the emoluments. He had had a notice on the paper, to which the Right Hon. Baronet seemed adverse to the discussion of. On that occasion the Right Hon. Baronet said that this was a question not to he hastily disposed of, and on a late occasion also, the Member for the Uni versity of Dubli n h ad resisted' all inquiry into the sub ject, on the ground that the revenues of the College were private property. He (Mr. Osborne) should like to ask that Hon. and Learned Member if he represented them as a private or as a corporate body ?—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. and Learned Member was a judge of law, and he (Mr. Osborne) would be glad to know from him the dis tinction between public and private property ? In erder to assist him in arriving at a correct opinion, he would refer him to the statement of an eminent jurist, Sir Jas. Mackintosh, upon the subject. The Right Hon. Baronet the Member for the University of Oxford, said that he should vote for inquiry, if any a ll egat i on of abuse were l made against the College.ie (M r . O s b orne) thought that if he could prove to the Right Hon. Baronet's satis faction that the original character had been perverted, he might calculate upon his support, and, in the first place, College Was founded by it had been alleged that Trinity a Protestant Monarch, from Protestant funds, and for Protestant purposes. What was the fact ? The College was founded in 1592, and the very ground "on which it was built was taken from the Roman Catholic convent of AP-Hallows, and the object of the foundation was to extend learning and civilisation among the Roman Catholics of Ireland.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") So far from Trinity College having been founded by Protestants for Protestant purposes, it wa s fo u nd e d out of the public mon e y for public pu rposes. He altogether d en i e d that the original charter of the Dublin University provided that it should be applied to any sectarian or peculiar religious purposes. There was on l y one pas sage in the charter of Queen Elizabeth that could be construed at all to mean anything of that kind, yet that he was sure could not be interpreted to mean that the University was founded for Protestant purposes. There wis not a single word in it to that effect. He would read the extract from the charter, and begged that the Hon. Member for the Univs sity of Dublin would translate it for the benefit of the country gentlemen be hind him. The Honourable Member here read the ex tract to a hich he referred. The foundation of the Uni versity of Dublin to Protestant purposes referred to forty years after, when Strafferd and Laud were in ower, and peay. rsec ution against th e C atholics was order Th a t was the fi rst t i me that the Ito • of the d man Catho'ics were rendered ineligible. In a supple mentary charter, the exclusion of the Roman Catholics was thus set forth. The Learned Gentleman here read a Ion; extract in Latin from the second charter, to the effect that Roman Catholics should be excluded, and apart f or P rotestant purposes. the establishment s et ile therefore denied that Trinity C o ll ege was estab lished for exclusive purposes, and he should be glad to hear what the Right lion. Gentleman the Member for the city of Dublin had to offer on the subject. In fact, Trinity College had been changed altogether in its constitution to what it was originally. It was there provided that there should be no married fellows in the university. This was altogether altered ; and they had now that which would make Queen Elizabeth shudder in her grave —priest fellows who Were married. He had made some inquiry about this, but] he had not been able The examination of this witness occupied upwards of ten hours. The Court adjourned at half.past six, and resumed the examina tion at eight o'clock. SPORTING IN TELLIGEN CE. TATTERSALLS.—YESTERDAY. LIVERPOOL CUP. 5 to 1 agst Mr. Bell's Winesour—taken 6 to 1 agst Mr. Mo. tyn's Milton—taken 6 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Trueboy 10 to 1 agst Mr. A. Johnstone's Rowena 11 to 1 agst Mr. A. W. Hill's Ironmaster 12 to 1 agst Mr. Collett's Corrauna—taken 12 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Lightning 25 to 1 agst Mr. Standish's Little Hampton. GOODWOOD CUP. 5 to 2 agst Mr. Irwin's Faugh-a-ballagh—taken 5 to 1 agst Mr. A. W. Hill's Ironmaster 12 to 1 agst Mr. Gratwicke's Stomacher. GOODWOOD STAKES. 11 to 1 agst Mr. Johnstone's Pythia 12 to 1 agst Mr. A. W. Hill's Libel 16 to 1 agst Mr. Ramsbottom's Pineapple 17 to 1 agst Sir J. Hawley's Venus 18 to l agst Lord G. Bentinck's John o' Gaunt—taken 18 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Queen Mab—taken 20 to 1 agst Mr. Parr's Europa—taken '2O to 1 agst Sir C. Msnck's Glossy 20 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Lothario 20 to 1 agst Lord Howth's Warp 20 to 1 agst Mr. Etwall's iEgis 25 to 1 agst Lord Stradbroke's Boarding School Miss—t. 25 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Wee Pet—taken 25 to 1 agst Mr. Ongley's Roderick. ST. LEGER. 5 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Weatherbit 6 to I agst Mr. Gratwicke's Merry Monarch. NEWMARKET JULY MEETING—THURSDAY. Sweepstakes of 10 toys, each, for '2 yrs old, fist 111 b, and 3 }rs, 93t. New T. Y. C. The winner to be sold for 200/., &e. (Four Subs.) Lord Exeter's Tunick, 3 yrs Duke of Rutland's c by Glaucus, out of Minikin, 3 yrs 2 Mr. Freeman's Stamp, 3 yrs Mr. Parker's Tom Sare, 2 yrs Betting-6 to 4 agst Stamp; 5 to 2 agst Tunick ; 3 to 1 agst Tom Sare; and 3to 1 agst lllinikin c. Tom Sare and Stamp made play at moderate speed, for a quarter of a mile, and were then passed by the Minikin colt and Tunick, the former leading ; half-way down the hill the latter went up, and, after a middling race, won by a length ; Stamp a bad third. The Chesterfield Stakes of 30 soya. each, 20 ft., for 2 yrs old colts, Bst 71b; and fillies, Bst 41). The winner of the July Stakes to have carried 9ibs, and the second 41b extra. Last half of BM. (16 Subs. ) Lord Chesterfield's Free Lance, by Jereed ............(Nat) 1 Duke of Rutland's f by Caesar, out of Ramadan's dam Mr. E. Walker's Guzman Lo. d Exeter's b c by Colwick, out of Mecca .. 4 Lord Albemarle's Nell Cook 5 Betting-6 to 4en Free Lance, sto 2 agst Ramadan filly, and sto 1 agst Mecca colt. The Ramadan filly made the running, followed by Nell Cook aad Gusman, Free Lance waiting at Nell Cook's quarters. They remained in these positions to the bottom of the hill, where Nell was beaten off. Free Lance here show_d in advance, took the lead in two or three strides, and won in a canter by two lengths, the Ramadan filly beating Gnsman by half a length. Handicap Sweepstakes of 15 soya. each, 10 ft for all ages, from starting post of B. 11. to end of New T. Y. C. (3 Subs. ) Mr. Phillimore's Skeleton, 4 yrs, 7st At a meeting of the Jockey Club on Wednesday, Lord George Bentinck was proposed and unanimously approved of as Steward, in the room of the Earl of Stradbroke, whose term is out. The Garden Stakes did not fill. Sir THOMAS FREMANTLE said that he re gretted that it was not in his power to accede to the motion of the Hon. Gentleman. The Hon. Gentleman had made a very humorous speech, and had evinced that he had made very extensive researches, and had touched on a vast variety of topics. If he had made out any case of a malversation of the funds of the college, then indeed there would be some reason for inquiry, but no such grounds had ever been attempted to be adduced, and he must therefore be obliged to resist the motion. The great front of the offence appeared to be that the fellows were allowed to get married. Mr. OSBORNE—AII the fellows ? Sir T. FREMANTLE—He believed only the senior fellows. But, whether only the seniors or all, the princi ple was the same. Now, without going into any length ened inquiry on this subject, he must contend that the circumstance in no way affected the course of education which was given at Trinity College. Then, again, with respect to the Church patronage, he felt compelled to express his dissent from the assertion that thatpatronage was unwisely employ( d. And again, with regard to the income of the College, the Honourable Member appeared to have gone on very insufficient data or the conclusions at which he had arrived. The Honourable Member had stated that the income of the College was 50,0001., and that the emoluments of the senior fellows was as much as 3,0001 a year. Now, from the inquiries which he had male, he was induced to believe that the income of the richest fellowship was not more than 1,700/. a year. Yet, even if it were 3,0001., which it was not, there would still he no impediment to the good education of the pupils, arid he believed that no objection was felt against the emo luments which the professors enjoyed. Then, again, as to Protestant ascendancy, why it might as well be said that they were supporting Catholic ascendancy by in creasing the grant to Maynooth from 8,000/. to 26,0001. a yr( ar. And as to the exclusion of Roman Catholics from the college, it was well known that Roman Catho lics did go there, were educated there, and were thankful for the education they received. Respecting the suppo sition that Roman Catholics were excluded from the ad vantages of the scholarships, all he had to say was that there was a case at the present moment pending in the Queen's Bench in Dublin, in which a Roman Catholic member of the University, who had passed his examina tion, was suing to be installed in a scholarship. Should that decision be unfavourable, an Act of Parliament might be necessary ; but until the decision of the Judges was made known, it was at least premature to accede to any motion such as that before the House ; and con ceiving that no sufficient ground had been made for pass ing it, he should certainly give it his decided opposition. Mr. ROCHE said that the Right Hon. Baronet, who had just sat down, had stated, that in the event of the decision of the Judges of the Court of Queen's Bench in Dublin being unfavourable, that an Act of Par- liament would be necessary. ' That was the very thing he wanted, and why not pass an Act at once? The Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland had referred to what had been said by his Right Hon. and Learned Friend the Member for Dungarvon about Catholic ascendancy. But the Right Honourable Baronet ought to remember that though they desired that the Roman Catholics of Ireland should be educated, they had no desire to establish an ascendancy of Roman Catholics over the Protestant Church there. It had been asserted over and over again that the College of the Trinity in Dublin was open to all sects and classes. This was a fallacy which could not be too frequently over thrown. It was not the case. The Roman Catholics were admitted on the same footing as Protestants ;* and he therefore contended, with other Irish Members, that, since they would not withdraw any part of the funds of that college for the purposes of education, the Government should at least build another college on more liberal principles, and give the same extent of classical learning to the students who might be entered of it. The professors of Trinity, in the anatomical and other chairs were required to conform to the Esta blished Church of Ireland. Now he should like to know what difference the being a Catholic should make in anatomy, natural or moral philosophy, or other chairs, unconnected with theology in that college. He thought that every Irishman who really loved his country would be anxious to see all these restrictions removed, and without it, he thoUght the reconciliation of that country could not be accomplished. _ _ . _ . . Mr. HAMILTON assured the House that there was no indisposition on the part of the fellows of the Uni versity of Dublin to give her Majesty's Government any information on the subject of these colleges, but he thought this motion had its origin in a hostile spirit, as it certainly emanated from a hostile party. It had been said that the system pursued at Dublin College was hostile to education ; but he would remind the House of the names that had emanated from it, distin guished in every department of the classics, the arts, and the sciences. It would be invidious to institute any com parison with the colleges of Oxford and Cambridge, but he could not help saying that there were at present more fellows in the first of these Universities than had been in the Dublin College from its very foundation.—(Hear, hear.) The objections which Hon. Members had urged against the University of Dublin was, that it was a merely Protestant College. But they should remember that it was founded by Queen Elizabeth ; and if they recollected the character of that age, and the opinions which were prevalent, they would not surely express any surprise that it was founded for the purpose of extending the Protestant faith. There were certain offices to which Roman Catholics were not eligi ble, but they were of that kind that the restriction could not be looked upon as a very great grievance. They were the offices of Provost, Vice-Provost, and certain fellowships and scholarships. The Hon. and Learned Memt.er then enumerated the different classes in the college, in order to show that education was there taught on the most liberal principle. The only objection which the Hon. Member seemed to substantiate, and the justice of which he (Mr. Hamilton) would not admit, was, that the university was intended to propagate the doctrines of the Protestant Establishment. He thought that if they interfered with the present system they would, in - stead of conciliating Ireland, be rather adding to her dis tractions. Me. WARBURTON thought that no objection could reasonably be given to a motion, which had only for its object the establishment of a Commission for the pur pose of inquiring if the intentions of the founders of the university had been carried out. They had to inquire whether the funds which had been given had been ap plied according to the terms of the charter, and they found the charter of Charles 1., in 1637, laid down the scalp of emoluments which the provost, and other officers, were to receive. There they found that the provost was to receive 1001. sterling, the senior fellows 9/. 13s. 4d., and the junior fellows 3/. Now, indeed, they, in consequence of the difference in value of money, should be placed on a different footing ; but yet they had to look if a large amount of the available property of the college was not swal lowed up in the shape of salaries, ins tea d of bein g expended in the way directed by the founders. And if they did examine into the history of the Univer sity, they would find that Encroachments had been made at different periods—encroachments which crippled the energies, and limited the usefulness of the Institution to ERITH REGATTA, The third annual aquatic meeting at Frith took place yes terday, and was even superior to any that have preceded it. The presentation of prizes of a 'most liberal character, pro duced one of the fullest entries of gentlemen's four-oared boats we ever remember to have met with, and the anticipa tion of a fine day's sport was realised to the very letter. The heats were so arranged as to afford the several competitors an opportunity of getting as much rest as possible between them, but for the accommodation of the reader we subjoin each race under its own head, without reference to the order in which they were rowed : Watermen's Pair Oars for 20 1 . Robert Chanelor and E. Stebbs (Blue) 1 D. Ward and Collins (Pink) 2 Four others started. Won easily. Gentlemen Amateurs' Four-oared Race for a presentation silver cup, value 70 guineas. First Heat. The Zeander Club St. George's Club (White and Red Gloss) 2 The Nautilus Club (Red and Black) 3 The Leander took the lead and retained it, winning by about a length and a half. The Nautilus kept company with the St. George's for a considerable distance, and then dropped into the third place. Second Heat. The Ariel Club (Blue and white stripe) 1 The Neptune ... The Thetis (Dark lilac) 3 The Argonauts .......................................... (Yellow) 4 The race was contended in the most spirited way to the very finish, when the Ariel won by a length only • the Nep tune being only half a length ahead of the third boat. Grand Heat. The Leander Club ........... , 1 St George •...... 2 .......... ..... Neptune............................................................... 3 Ariel ..... ......................... .................... . It was one of the finest struggles on record, and, had there been no other race on the list, would amply have repaid any admirer of the sport for the visit. A pretty start, at a most rattling pace, was succeeded by the Leander, who were very heavy but fine fellows, who have distinguished them selves at both sculls and oars in many a gallant contest, showing their head in front, but they were waited upon by the St. George's, in a manner which showed that allif they retained the lead it would be at the expense of the physical power they could muster; nor were the other two opponents that would give either an opportunity of easing. Stroke succeeded stroke in rapid succession, and although the Leander worked immensely, they could not get away from the St. George's, who were at intervals a yard, half a length, or three-quarters between, for at least more than half the race, the greater part of which distance found the other two, oar and oar, engaged in a distinct and not less powerful struggle, about a length in the rear of the second boat. As they neared the pier, w ithin half a mile of the coming-in post, the Leander had drawn their boat clear, but the St. George's, amidst the most deafening plaudits, made a splendid spurt, became oar and oar, or within a foot or so of it, and it was anybody's race. The rowing in both boats was most desperate, but the Leander arrived first at the winning post, three or four feet only in advance of the St. George's, whose perfect style of rowing was the subject of general and deserved eulogium. The Neptune third, a boat only astern of the second, and the Ariel, who had been pressed on to a buoy and fouled, or broke one of their oars, half a length only behind. Two or three of the gentlemen in either of the leading boats appeared much distressed, as, in deed, did the other crews. Watermen's Fours, for a purse of sovereigns-30 1 . the first crew, 201. the second, 101. the third, 5/. the fourth. This race was composed of "crack" London watermen. First Heat. Nil Desperandum (F. Lett, Robins, T. Coombes, T. Good rum ; E. Maynard, coxswain) The Merry Monarch (J. Doubledee, Leach, Green, Shel ton ; G. Campbell, coxswain) The winners took the lead directly after the start, and kept it. There was a third crew, who tried hard for second place, and made a sharp race of it. Second Heat. The Unity (Robert Coombes, the champion, Newel, Pocock, Phelps; David Coombes, coxswain) Live and Let Live (Owen, Short, Reeves, Bartlett; Turner, coxswain) . - Won easily. A close race for second. Grand Heat. Robert Coombes's crew took the lead, and won it (1%41, Lett's crew was second. A " scratch" wound up the day's sport. PRIVILEGE OF COUNSEL. In the recent trial in which two men, Gompetta and Witham, were found guilty of conspiracy to defraud Captain Rose, that gentleman felt himself aggrieved by the language used by Mr. Fitzroy Kelly, in commenting upon his evidence. The following correspondence took place in consequence:— " Hampton Court Palace, June 25, 1845. " Sir,—l wish to know If, when unprotected by your privileges as counsel, you will dare to repeat thefalse statements which you made respecting me on a late occasion? " GEORGE PITT ROSE. " To Fitzroy Kelly, Esq." " New-street, Spring-gardens, June 25, 1845. " Sir,—l have received your letter, dated this day, from Hampton Court Palace. " I at present propose to forward your letter to the Horse Guards, with a statement of the circumstances that have led to it ; but I offer you an opportunity of withdrawing your letter if you are de sirous of so doing.—l am, Sir, your obedient servant, " To Captain Rose." " FITZROY KELLY. " Hampton Court Palace, June 26, 1845. " Sir,—l beg to acknowledge the receipt of your note mention. ing your intention of communicating my letter to you of yester. day's date to the Horse Guards unless I withdraw it. " I beg, therefore, to withdraw my letter, and to offer my apo logy for having committed so great a mistake as to address to you a letter of that nature.—l am, Sir, your obedient servant, " To Fitzroy Kelly, Esq." " G. P. ROSE. " New-street, Spring-gardens, June 27, 1845. "Sir,—l beg to return you the letter which you desire to with draw.—l am, Sir, your obedient servant, " To Captain Rose." " FITZROY KELLY. MARRIAGE IN Him' LlrE.—Yesterday was solem niced, in the chapel of Lambeth Palace, the marriage of Edward, Lord Bishop of Salisbury, to the Hon. Clementina Baillie Hamilton, youngest daughter of the Archdeacon Baillie Hamilton, and Lady Charlotte Baillie Hamilton. The marriage was strictly private, the immediate relatives of the two families only being present. a very great degree. And on this subject alone, the Go vernment ought to institute a royal commission of inquiry. Some of the arguments of the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, seemed to him to be carried too far. Surely in this instance, where the college was open to all stu dents of whatever persuasion, awl where office and emo lument might be held by Roman Catholic gentlemen surely, he repeated, at this time, and under present circum stances, the Government might cause inquiry to be made with the view of throwing the university open to all sects, and placing Catholics and Protestants on exactly the same footirg. He should be the very last person to divert the property of the College to other than the objects to which the founders meant it to be orp7ied, but in these days, when they were building colleges in other parts of Ireland, it might be wel to do away with the objectionable statutes which only restricted education, and he should, therefore, deeming the commission sought for by his Hon. Friend truly necessary, support the motion. Sir R. H. INGLIS said that the foundation of the university of Dublin was as purely Protestant as any college in this country. It had been said by the Hon. and Gallant Officer who mond the resolution, that the statutes of Elizabeth did not contain the word " Pro testant ;" but did any Honourable Member mean to say that that sovereign contemplated other than the ex tension of Protestant doctrines ? Having heard nothing in the speech of the Hon. Gentleman opposite in its favour, he should resist any interference en the part of the Crown with respect to funds left by certain persons for private purposes. Mr. HUME was sorry to find this motion opposed by her Majesty's Government. He was surprised at this, seeing that her Majesty's Government had evinced a de sire to conciliate the people of Ireland. He thought his Hon. and Gallant Friend, the Member for Wycombe, in introducing the motion, had made out a very strong case. He thought that the motion of his Hon. Fricnd was particularly well timed, seeing that her Majesty's Government had asked the House to grant certain sums of money for educational purposes. He was right, under those circumstances, in asking what funds were at pre sent in existence for such purposes, and - how they were appropriated. He did not see how her Majesty's Go vernment could refuse this, when they were asking the House to grant more money for education in Ireland. On a former occasion an application was made for money to be voted for Scotland, and a precisely similar course had been adopted to that suggested by his Hon. and Gallant Friend. He believed that his Hon. and Gallant Friend's argument had been very unfairly met. The Government, in opposing the motion, were not carrying out the liberal view which they had lately ex pressed towards Ireland. It was his opinion, that all Irishmen should be placed upon the same footing with respect to education and religicn. He thought that Ire land was justified in callint , for the inquiry which had been demanded. It was the policy of the Government to grant such inquiries, for whenever a party had re course to concealment, the result would not be benefi cial to them. Upon these grounds, he should support the motion of his Hon. and Gallant Friend. Mr. LEFROY was opposed to this motion, because lie believed the effect of it would be to open the honors and emoluments of Trinity Collego, Dublin, to other pat ties than Protestants. lie thought they were bound to sup port that College in its present position, He did not believe that a single argument had been offered in favour of the motion of the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman, and therefore he should oppose it. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL did not think that the lion. Gentleman who had just sat down had shown to the House a very promising example of the logic tau ;lit at Trinity College. He (Mr. M. J. O'Connell) hoped that they would have some further exposition of the principles upon which the Government intended to oppose the motion.—(Hear.) They had, he thought, exhibited as much inconsistency in that matter as they had in financial matters. In Scotland tests were to be imposed, in Cork they were not, but. in Dublin the Government were determined to maintain the tests in full force. lle had supported this Bill in its early stages, because he believed it would, in its ef fect, advance mixed education. But mixed education would never succeed while equality was rot observed. The new colleges were to be thrown open to all, while the old ones were to bo exclusive. Until this inequality was abolished, discontent would continue, and ought to continue. He could not understand the inconsistency that was shown by the Government with respect to this matter of education. That which they believed to be good and essential in one case, they repudiated in another. Their consciences appeared to vary with the position of the places respect ing which they attempted to legislate. As he had said before, they never could hope to conciliate Ireland while the present inequality was allowed to continue. Let them place every creed upon the same footing with respect to the honours and emoluments of the colleges in Dublin. and they might depend upon it that discon tent would rapidly die away. Mr. SHAW believed that this motion had been brought forward for the purpose of alienating funds from the objects for which they were originally intended. Trinity College was founded by a Protestant Queen, by Protestant funds, and for purely Protestant purposes. This had often been repeated, and he would repeat it again and again, for this simple reason—that the truth could rot too often be repeated. There were as it any Roman Catholics now in the University of Dublin us there were formerly, and he did not wish that the Roman Catholics should be deprived of the advantages of acade mical education. The Hon. Gentleman who had hie tight forward this motion had taunted him with being igno rant of everything connected with the government or the University of Dublin. Ile had, however, had considerable experience in that University. He had taken his degree of Doctor of Laws there, and had two sons who entered it. and consequently he must be somewhat acquainted with its internal management. The Ilonourable and Learned Gentleman then tent into details respecting the salaries of the professors and fellows, which he defended on the ground of the onerous duties they had to perform. The senior fellows had more tine for literary pursuits ; the time of the juniors was wholly taken tip in teaching the students, and every one of them was actively en • gaged in giving lectures and instructing the scholars. There was also another duty which the junior fellows had to perform. The divinity students had to attend two years, and the junior fellows, besides their ordinary duties, had to instruct these students. He had, there fore, disposed of two of the objections which had been raised against the fellows. lie would say that the Go vernment could not violate the funds, without doing gross injustice to the intentions of the donors who had endowed the college. Mr. SHEIL entirely coincided with his Hon. Friend the Member for Kerry that the members of the three professions of theology, law, and medicine, should not stand distinct. They started together in the same field of life, and, if he might employ the sublime language of the great poet whose remains were now entombed in the ad jacent cathedral, he would say, " Leaving the world, with no blot on their name, Looked proudly to Heaven, from the death-bed of fame." They lived and they would die together. Surely, in the morning of life, when the sweetest, and finest, and most lasting friendships were formed, which would last through life, religious means for directing those feelings ought not to be rejected. Without the aid of religious education, all secular education would be perfectly use less. The youth was transferred from his home, and was no longer under the care of that best of all sentinels, parental love. It was perhaps in religion that a little learning was dangerous, for it was in silent monitions of a well grounded religious feeling, probably first incul cated by a mother, and sustained by the exhortations of the ecclesiastical adviser, that the rash and headstrong passions of youth were restrained. These statements were not imaginary, and the Government had not pro vided for them. They had not guarded against it. Re ligion, in his opinion, ought to have been made the basis of the system. The Government ought to have made religion the groundwork on which the entire scheme should be founded. The Roman Catholic bishops had asked the Government to erect Catholic chapels as well as Protestant. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Secre tary for the Home Department had said that chaplains must be appointed for the Unitarians and other sects. Was he aware of the fact that in Ireland there were only 500,000 Presbyterians, 40,000 Unitarians, 180,000 Pro testants, and upwards of 7,000,000 of Roman Catho lies? And yet, looking at these facts, he said it was necessary to provide chaplains for the Unitarians. Why, Protestant, Presbyterian, and Catholic chaplains ought to be appointed to the colleges. Ought religion to be left out, when, compared with which, every other object of secular education was evanescent and contemptible? He would now refer to the appointment of professors. He thought that the Catholic bishops, in seeking what they did, were perfectly justifiable. They suggested that the professors of metaphysics, of geology, and ana tomy, should be Catholics. The Government said such a proposition was monstrous. Those professors in Dub lin University were all Protestants, and he would con tend that the bishops were perfectly right in pursuing the course of refusing to recognise the principle of the measure, unless sufficient means for the instruction of the Roman Catholic youth in the proposed colleges, in their proper religion, were fully recognised and provided for. He would not complain of the distribution of offices, of the appointment of magistrates, of the neglect of the interests of Ireland, but he would content himself with a fact. Fifteen years ago Catholic Emancipation was car ried—fifteen years had elapsed since that great measure passed the Legislature, and he, who at that time led the way in carrying it, was now the Prime Minister of Eng land. There were eight millions of Roman Catholics in Ireland, and yet not a single Roman Catholic held office under the Government—not one had the right of entree at the Castle of Dublin or the Home-office.—([fear, hear.) It was not so under the Whigs. Un der their Administration the claims of the Catholics met at least with some consideration. Under the Whigs these were appointed to office—Sir Michael O'Loghlen, and Judge Ball, while Mr. Pigott was the Attorney-General for Ireland. The Whigs in theiFap pointments to office consulted the interests and feelings of the great Catholic community ; the present Ministry had not. When proposing the present Bill, the Academical Education Bill, whom did they consult? Cer tainly not the feelings or the remonstrances of the Catholics of Ireland. The Hon. Member for Louth had told them that it would be inconsistent for Roman Catholics to support the Government so long as they adhered to the present Church Establishment, and refused to open Trinity College. In that he perfectly agreed. There was neither reciprocity or justice in such a system. He now came to the amendment.' The Hon M em ber for Wycombe (Mr. B. O s b orne ) h a d referred to the . original foundation of Trinity College as not being of an exclusive character. Ile could corroborate that fact. It was not intended for ecclesiastical or sacerdotal purposes, but as an i nstitution for the education generally of the youth. This was the object of the establishment, as founded by Queen Elizabeth, who was a good Protestant, but w h o was, nevertheless, a very y heathen in a carnal point. H e h e l d i n his hand a book, descrvive of the state of Ireland, written 200 years ago, written by no less a person than Lord Bacon. The work was entitled the' Queen's Service in Ireland." That great man said, in the work in question, " to tolerate the Roman Catholic religion;" and then he went on to advise the people of Ireland in a state of contentment, to pursue an even course isetween England and Ireland, and to treat the people as one nation ; one great me ins ofacomplishing which was by carrying out a liberal system of education.—(Hear, hear) Coupling this passage, which would be feund in the third volume of the work, with the pas s , ge in the charter of Queen Elizabeth, already quoted in the progress of the debate, he (Mr. Sheil) contended that there was no ground whatever for excluding Roman Catholics from the University of Dublin. But that was not the way to meet the question in 1845. What they wanted were just prin. ciples and practices to conciliate the great majorit y o f t h e people of Ireland. Trinity College, even with its present de. fective constitution, had produced a galaxy of great men, yet that blaze of literary glory had only emanated from 700,000 Iri.hmen, a mere handful of the people.—( Hear, hear.) What then might they not expect if the whole waste mind of Ireland was brought into the precincts of that institution, and that instead of 700,000, there were 8,000,000 of people pro fiting from the mine of intellectual wealth accumulated there. —(Cheers.) Let them not deny the great good that had been done, but endeavour to change the system for a better. The Right Hon. and Learned Gents man then proceeded to notice the fellow,hips of Trinity Colle , which were at present re stricted to Protestants, particularising several instances of the emoluments and advantages, which Roman Catholics were altogether excluded from by the present constitution of the College. He considered it would be of much greater service to education in Ireland, instead of attempting to esta blish dwarfish colleges for academical education, to apply 18,0001. to improve Trinity College, and to throw it open equally to Roman Catholics with Protestants. This course would be returned in full value to England in pacificating re sults, and in the general welfare and improvement of the people of Ireland.—( Loud cheers.) He thought that those conces sions ought to satisfy the House, and the advantages which had been given to the Roman Catholic Church had been materially diminished. At the conclusion of this, their fifth session, it should be a subject for the consideration of the Minis try that it was unwise to take such a measure as 'this at the conclusion of the session. This was no time for half measures, for he felt that if they longer delayed the set tlement of this dispute, the consequence would be that there would he a total disturbance of the peace of the community. and if this we. e not cared f or , h e f eare d th ere would be a fatal eruption, and the measure would be altogether destruc tive of the object for which this Bill was intended. Sir R. PEEL said that the object of the Bill was to give a perfect equality between the several parties. The Govern ment had certainly been very desirous to meet the religious feeling of the country. Their object had been the liberal endowment of the Catholic Church, and it was a little unfair that the intentions of Government should he so misrepresented as they had been n this debate. There was no doubt .but that the feeling of the people in Ireland would,•by this debate, be largely increased. The object of the original grant had been to increase the resources of that country, and he thought that the principle would be erroneous which made any differ ence between the honours. If they were to state any parti cular interest as being affected, they might say that the Presbyterian interest was paramount in the north, and the Roman Catholic in the south. The principle of this had been allowed in the Bequest Act. The Right Hon. Gentleman had given a very excellent speech in favour of the opening of several colleges. The circumstance of the religious principle being adduced, was sufficient to show that the intentions of Elizabeth had not been carried out. The Hon. Gentleman complained of a want of equality. Why, what could be a greater proof of that equality than the:circumstance that the Government had invariably adopted those plans which were likely to in fluence public feeling. Otte of their objects had been to raise religious animosities, and he was happy to announce that those feelings of opposition had subsided. The object of the Govern ment had been to subdue religious animosities, and they sue. needed. There was no sacrifice, however great, or however lasting, he would not incur, if, acting with justice to Protestants and Roman Catholics, he could promote the peace and harmony of the country to which the Right Hon. Gentleman belonged, Sir V. BLAKE wished to correct a statement of the Right Hon. Baronet opposite. The petition from Galway to which he had alluded was not in favour of the Academical Bill, but that of the Maynooth Endowment. The people of Ireland were almost unammously.in.favour of the latt er ; wou ld to G o d the former measure was similarly acceptable to them. Sir R. PEEL—Did not the Hon. Baronet call on me and request that I would make Galway one of the localities in which the colleges should be established ?—( Loud laughter.) Sir VALENTINE BLAKE admitted the circumstance al luded to by the Right Hon. Baronet, but explained that, subse quently, the disadvantages of the measure had become so pal. pable as to change his mind. (Loud laughter.) The Hon. Baronet continued for some time the most emphatic gesticulations, but from the indescribable uproar which pre vailed during his entire address, not one word was audible in the gallery. Colonel SIBTHORP said there was no one single act which he did not believe the Right Hen. Baronet capable of, nor was there a single measure, however monstrous, which he did not think the Gentleman at the head of her Majesty's Government would be disposed to carry in persuance of that course which he ealled " expediency," but which he (Colonel Sibthorp) could designate by no other term than " disgraceful subser viency."—( Loud cries of " Order," and laughter.) Well, if that epithet were too strong, he would withdraw the word "disgraceful," to suit the tender consciences of the House, and leave the designation "subserviency." The conduct of the Government had been of late so eittraordinary that he should not feel at all surprised to see the Pope himself introduced as a Member of that House by the Right Hon. Baronet, or if that gentleman himself took his seat some day as Mussulman, Ma hometan, or Jew.—( Loud laughter. ) Lord J. RUSSELL admitted there were great merits in this Bill, more especially as it contained the distinguishing feature of withdrawing religious tests. But when he came to the general question of education for the higher classes of Ireland, the University of Dublin was presided ever exclusively by Pro testants, and scholarships and all offices of distinction were similarly exclusive. This inequality might he remedied in two ways—either by endowing a Catholic college similarly as Trinity College was sustained; a second way, by giving the meats of equality, as far as secular, if not ecclesiastical, benefits could be attained in the university. But if the Government really wished to remove these obnoxious distinctions and dis abilities, it could easily be effected, whether the political, social, or religious equality of creeds was considered. The people of England would speedily recognise and assent to the principle, I and Ireland would at once be benefited and grateful. He should support the amendment of the Honourable Gentleman for the admission of Catholics into Trinity College, after which he would cheerfully vote for the third reading of the Bill, although it was not so perfect a 13111 as he could have desired. 'The House then divided, when there appeared— For the amendment Against it Majority against the amendment ----77 Sir R. H. INGLIS then proceeded to argue, that Govern ment would fail to make their system of education perfect and effective if they wholly divested it of religion. No man was a fit or competent person to be an instructor in natu ra l philo sophy, or, in fact, in any of the sciences, who did not refer to the name or the attributes of the Almighty, and he should, therefore, move that the Bill be read a third time that day six months. Lord ERRINGTON declared his intention to oppose the third reading of the Bill, because Government had not suffi ciently explained upon what principles these colleges were to be governed. The SPEAKER informed the Hon. Member for the Uni versity of Oxford, that a former amendment having been moved upon the original motion, he could not put the amendment Which the Hon. Member had just proposed. Sir R. H. INGLIS replied that he would meet the diffi culty by withdrawing the amendment, and dividing on the original question. The House then divided, when there appeared-- For the third reading . ..... 177 Against it Majority in favour of it -151 The Bill was then read a third time and passed. NEW ZEALAND. Mr. HAWES asked the First Lord of the Treasury whether he had any objection to lay on the table of the House the in structions recently forwarded to the Governor of New Zealand? Sir R. PEEL objected to their production. They were confidential,'and could not, consistently with the public service, be produced. DRAINAGE (IRELAND) BILL. On the order of the day for reading this Bill a second time being read, Mr. S. O'BRIEN suggested its postponement. Sir R. PEEL objected to such a course. After a few obse - rvations from Mr. Redington, Sir R. Per• guson, and Sir T. Fremantle, the Bill was re a d a second time. PHYSIC AND SURGERY BILL. The consideration of this Bill was postponed till next Monday. The Joint Stock Companies Bill was read a second time; as were also the Geological Survey Bill, and the Arts Union (No. 2) Bill. MERCHANT SEAMEN'S FUND BILL. Mr. CURTEIS moved the consideration of the report on this Bill. Mr. HOWARD hoped that the Bill would be postponed till the next session of Parliament. It would inflict great hard ship on his constituents, and ought not to be passed without full consideration. Mr. A GLIONBY had no objection to the postponement of the Bill, if her Majesty's Government thought that by so doing they coultl introduce the Bill in a more improved form next session. If it was the opinion of the Government that by postponing the measure till the next session of Parliament the interest of all parties would be better attended to, he had no objection to agree to that postponement. He did not wish to thwart her Majesty's Government, but to obtain from them an as surance that in the next session the subject should meet their earliest consideration, and a Bill would be brought in on the subject. Sir GEORGE CLERK 'fully believed that in the recess the Government would be enabled to prepare a more satisfac tory and comprehensive measure, which would be brought for ward next session, and as the present Bill had not been re ceived favourably by the body whom it was intended most to benefit, he trusted the House would allow the matter to be postponed. Mr. W AWN asked the House to read the reports of 1841 and 1844, to see the unjust way in which seamen were treated, and he would only put it to the Right Ho nourable Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government, whether, after these reports, it was not absolutely necessary that some measure should be carried into effect to remove these grievances. After a few words from Mr. CURTEIS the Bill was postponed. The Speaker then left the chair,and Mr. Greene onGreene having taken his place, the House went into Comm it tee E a C nd LA t ß he AT S l p O ea N ker ßlL re L p . orted p r o T a h r T e e s ti s. H E o ü ß s A e N t K h e R n r P e T s u C m Y e d D , The House then resolved itself into Committee on the MERCHANT SEAMEN'S BILL. Mr. HENLEY objected to the first clause, considering the principle of granting licences to boarding-houses for the recep tion of seamen, as undefined, if not pernicious ; and he thought that before the House acceded to it, it should learn from the Government what was the definition of an " honest crimp." After an explanation from Sir George Clerk, and a short conversation between Sir George Cockburn, Mr. Wawn, Captain Corry, and Mr. Lambton, that and the other clauses were agreed to, and the Bill was ordered to be printed and re ported to-morrow (this day). The House having resumed, Sir THOMAS FREMANTLE obtained leave to bring in a Bill to continue expiring Turnpike Road Acts in Ireland. Mr. MANNERS SUTTON obtained leave to bring in a Bill to continue certain Turnpike Acts; a Bill to continue an Act for authorising the application of highway rates to turnpike-roads • another, to continue the Act to amend the law relating to loan societies ; another, to suspend the making of lists and the ballots and enrolments for the militia of the united kingdom; and another, to continue the exemptiognof inhabitants of parishes, townships, and villages from liability to be rated as such, in respect of stock in trade or other pro perty, to the relief of the poor. Mr. M. SUTTON then asked leave to introduce a Bill to continue two Acts, relating to the removal of poor persons born in Scotland and Ireland, and chargeable to parishes in England. Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN intimated his intention of opposi n g the introduction of so pernicious a Bill. The Acts whose con tinuance was now sought for, had been found to work most prejediclally to Ireland; the power of removing wipers, even after long industrial residence had entitled them to a settlement, was a hardship alike weighing heavily on the pauper and the country to which he was removed. lie therefore should strenuously resist the in troduction of the Bill. After a few words from Mr. Robert Palmer, Sir James i , 74