The Sun. — London, England, 1851-03-21 00:00:00

;lourtf)':.Mbition SUIV OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) WAR-OFFICE, MAR= 21, 1851. 7th R eg iment of Dragoon Guards Lieutenant James Im a m Barfonr, from the 89th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Gray, who exchanges, March 21. 13th Regiment of Foot—Charles William Woodroffe, Gent. to be Assistant-Surgeon, March 2 • 19th Foot—Lieutenant Maurice Lynch Blake, from half pay 57th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice John Phillipps, who exchanges, March 21. 44th Foot—Ensign William Fletcher to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Howard, promoted ; George Ingham, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Fletcher, March 2 1 . 4th Foot—Lieutenant William Roberts Williamson, to be Adjutant, vice Maclurcan, promoted, March 21. 50th Foot—Captain the Hon. James Pierce Maxwell, from the 59th Foot, to be Captain, vice Mackenzie, who ex changes, March 21. 59th Foot—Captain Benjamin Grey Mackenzie, from the 50th Foot, to be Captain, vice Maxwell, who exchanges, March 21. 73d Foot—Lieutenant Christopher Harison to be Captain, ey purchase, vice L'ttlehales, who retires; Ensign Audley Henry Booth to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice llarison, March 21. 74th Foot—Staif Surgeon of the Second Class James Alexander Fraser, M.D., to be Surgeon, vice Affieck, ap pointed to the Staff, March 21. 89th Foot—Lieutenant John Gray, from the 7th Dragoon Guards, to be Lieutenant, vice Balfour, who exchanges, March 21. Ceylon Rifle 'Regiment—Assistant-Surgeon John McGri goir Augustus Thomas Croft, from the Staff, to be Assistant- Surgeon, vice Rambaut, appointed to the Staff, March 21. HOSPITAL STAFF.— Surgeon Duncan Affleck, from the 74th Foot, to be Staff Surgeon of the Second Class, vice Fraser, appointed to the : 4th Foot ; Assistant-Surgeon John Rambant, from the Ceylon Rifle Regiment, to be Assistant- Surgeon to the Forces, vice Croft, appointed to the Ceylon Rifle Regiment, March 21. MitatOftiztnum. The christian names of Ensign Adams, of the 20th Foot, are " George Hewish," not " Huish," as previously stated. The date of the commission of Lieutenant Geddes Sansoni Twynam, of the 61st Regiment of Foot, is the 14th March, 1851. and not 12th March, 1851, as stated in the Gazette of 14th instant. GE S ERAL ORDER. Horse Guards, 21st March, 1851. The Queen having been pleased to signify her assent to a measure, which has been proposed by the Court of Direc t J's of the East India Company, of granting a medal to the surviving Officers and Soldiers of the Crown, who were en gaged in the services in India, enumerated in the accom panying list : Officers and soldiers, who consider that they may have a claim to receive such medal, are each to apply—the Ge ,.neral Officers, through the Secretary of the Commander-in- Chief of the Army ; ~ The Staff Officers, through the General O ffi cers u nder :whom they served—if alive—if not alive through the Ad jutant-General of the Army ; Officers. non-commissioned officers, and soldiers of her Majesty's regiments, battalions, and detachments, through the commanding officer of the regiment, battalion, or detach ment, at the time, if still alive. This will be known by in quiry at the agents of the regiment resident in London. It such commanding officer should not be alive, the application in writing must be made through the Adjutant-General of the army. k The Board of General Officers is hereby, by her Majesty's command, directed to take into consideration—to investigate —the facts stated in each of these several applications, and to report to the Commander-in-Chief upon the same, for the information of her Majesty, in order that the medals may be delivered to the claiments accordingly. The Adjutant General, and the Military Secretary to the .Commander-in. Chief, will transmit to the Secretary to the ,Board of General Offic?rs such information as they may have been able to acquire, to assist in the inveestigations which --the Board will have to make; and her Majesty has been ..graciously pleased to command that the departments of the Secretary-at-War, and of the Paymaster-General, may fur :-riish to the Board such information as the records of those ci,partments, respectively, can furnish, of the names of these serving with the troops of the Crown in India at the periods .of the several achievements specified. The Commander-in-Chief has been required to desire, that the Board of General officers will have alphabetical lists made out of the names of the claimants to one of these medals, together with their rank, and the names of the par ticular patties or sieges at which they may have been present. It having moreover been represented to her Majesty that the officers and soldiers of the Crown who were engaged in the Mysore war, and at the siege of Seringapatam, have already received medals from the East India Company for those services, her Majesty has further been graciously pleased to permit the same to be worn by them with their uniforms. By command of Field Marshal The DUKE OF WELLINGTON, Commander-in-Chief. G. BROWN, Adjutant-General. LIST OF BATTLES, &C., IN INDIA. Storm of Allighur, 4th September, 1803. Battle of Delhi, 11th September, 1803. Battle of Assaye, 23d September, 1803. • Siege of Asseer Ghur, 21st October, 18C 3. Battle of Laswarree, Ist November, 1803. Battle of Argaum, 29th November, 1803. Siege and Storm of Gawilghur, 15th December, liO3. Defence of Delhi, October, 1804. Battle of Deig, 13th November, 180 t . Capture of Deig, 25d December, 1804. War in Nepaul, in 1816, Battle of Kirkee, and Battle and Capture of Poona, November, 1817. Battle of Setabuldee, and Battle and Capture of Nagpoor, November and December, 1817. Battle of Maheidpore, 21st December, 1817. Defence of Corygaual, Ist January, 1818. War in Ava, 1824 to 1826. Siege and Storm of Bhurtpore, January, 1826. ADMIRALTY, Mancir 21. Her Majesty having been graciously pleased to direct that a medal should be conferred on the surviving officers, sea men, and marines, who were engaged in the Burmese war, all • officers, petty officers, seamen, and marines, who consider that they are entitled to receive this mark of their Sovereign's gracious recollection of their services, and of her desire to re cord the same, are to send, in writing, the statement of their claims, addressed to the Secretary of the Admiralty, White hall, London. By command of the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, W. A. B. HAMILTON. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Middlesex. Royal East Middlesex Regiment of Militia—Edward John Ottley, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice Herbert, resigned, March 18. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Gloucestershire and Bristol. Royal South Gloucester Light Infantry Regiment of Militia —Edward Augustus Stewart Hobhouse, Gent., to be Ensign, March 18. WHITEHALL, MARCza 11, 1851. The Right Hon. Sir John Jervis, Lint., Lord Chief Justice of her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas, at Westminster, has appointed Thomas Wilkinson, of the City of Canterbury, Gentleman, to be one of the Perpetual Commissioners for taking the acknowledgments of deeds to be executed by mar ,,ried women, under the Act passed for the abolition of fines and recoveries, and for the substitution of more simple modes of assurance, in and for the city of Canterbury, also in and for the county of Kent. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. Peter Manchee, cabinet manufacturer, Curtain-rod, Shore ditch. BANKRUPTS. Henry Watson and John George ;Hick" (not " Fich,' as before advertised in last Tuesday's Gazette), cement manu facturers, Pimlico. Robert Blacker, innkeeper, Ripon, Yorkshire. John Woodhouse, draper, Ripon, Yorkshire. Samuel Armstrong, glass dealer, Bolton-le-Moors, Lan cashire. Joseph Lucas Horrocks, merchant, Manchester. Willi: Joseph Hawley, grocer, Woolwich, William Henry Tautz and Bass Jackson, linendrapers, Great Russell-street, Tottenham-court - road. James Farley, laceman, Liverpool. Thomas Dean, chemist, Seacombe, Cheshire. Smith Tibbits,:ealer in mineral ores Cotterell,Gloucestes.sh. PRICE OF SUGAR. The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, com puted from returns made in the week ending March 18, MO, exclusive of Customs Duties paid or payable thereon • on the importation thereof into Great Britain : From the British possessions in America 275. lid. per cwt From the Mauritius ... 283. Md. p, From the East Indies 28s. Oid. Average price of the tliree foregoing de scriptions of sugar, jointly, computed as above, and exclusive of duty 27 5 . nil ~ By authority of Parliament, Hxxn.T BICSN ELL, Clerk of the Grocers' Company. Grocers'-hall, March 21. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Woo] Itek at Five o'clock. PETITIONS. : • t arl GRANVILLE presented a petition from Colefiold ' n favour of the Copyhold Enfranchisement Bill. The Earl of LANESBOROUGH presented several petitions against Papal aggression. The Earl of FALMOUni presented a petition from the shipowners of Brixham complaining of the repeal of il le. navigation4 a ,,,, , and praying for redress. Lord Ly TTELTON presented two petitions from the clergy of two diocese s i n C ana d a , p ra yi ng for a better provision for the Church in the colonies. The Earl of WINcuiLsEA. presented twenty peti tions against the Papal aggression. The Marquis of LAN Bll OWNEinesented two peti tions from different bodies of Wesleyan Methodists against Papal aggressio n . Earl FITZ WILLIA M presented several petitions against Papal aggression . COUNTY COURTS EXTENSION BILL. Lord BROUGHAM moved the second reading th is Bill. th's Bill. He proposed, as one of. court, the the alterations, that in ease of a new trial beinggranted a county in ~ venue of such new trial should be laid beforeanother county court judge. It had been s uggested that in , all cases the defendant should be called upon to if g i ve notice that he means to defend , and he does not give such notice h e shall not be permitted to defend, but that t he cause shou ld be treated as an un d e f en d e d cau se, giving the defendant • t r A .d power o f apply i ng to the learne d j u d ge to be permi to defend, if i t s h ou ld appear u p on affidavit thl , t he had in the interim discovered new evident °, ; this was a matter wor thy of consideration. B . 13 proposed to give the county court judges jurisdictio ri in, tithe cases, several clergymen had urged him to ad i this provision to the Bili. It had been held utterly ab surd to apply to the Court of Chancery in any matter in: which the amount in dispute was less than 1,000/. ; he. would not exaggerate, but he would propose to give to the county court judges a Chancery jurisdiction in all eases in which the amount to be decided on was under 100 i. These were the alterations he proposed ; thee() were all the additions he proposed to the contentio, as jurisdictions of the county courts. It had been aug,. THE Bested to extend the jurisdiction of these courts to all cases in which the matter in dispute amounted to 1001.; but he would not propose it, at least for the pre sent. He also proposed that parties might by agree ment give jurisdiction to the County Courts in all cases and under any conditions. He proposed to leave the ju risdiction by agreement absolutely unfettered. In many districts ancient local County Courts were in existence, possessing very extensive jurisdictions. Now, i❑ these ancient courts the expenses were much greater than they were in the County Courts. Now, he proposed that the causes usually carried into these ancient local courts should be transferred to the County Courts, giving ccmpensation to the officers of the ancient court out of the additional fees which would be received in the County Courts. He proposed that whenever a town council should petition the Queen in Council to extinguish a local ancient court, and to trans fer its jurisdiction to a County Court, a Judicial Com mittee of the Privy Council should have the power so to do. SUN, LONDON, had received from Mr. Verney, who had been commis sioned to inquire into the whole affair. The examination had been instituted, and he learned from Mr. Verney's letter that Miss Talbot was not a novice or even a postu late in the convent in which she had taken refuge.— (Hear, hear, and ironical cheers.) This letter said that Miss Augusta Talbot had taken refuge in this monastery, he believed, with the pnrposo of benoming a nun. — (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Now, what did Mr. Berkeley say; why, that he was refused all intercourse and com munication with his step-daughter; but he (Mr. Reynolds) had a letter from the Bishop of Clifton—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear," and ironical cheers)—which was a suffi cient answer to the charge No. 2. From that letter it ap peared that Mr. Berkeley, so far from feeling all the ten derness and regard to Miss Talbot which he had professed, had left it for five or six weeks without seeking any commu nication at all; and yet he said that she was immurred in a convent.—(Oh, oh, and hear.) The Hon. Member for Marrybone.—(Loud laughter.) Well, Mary-le-Bone. But if the Hon. Member would have allowed him to read the document out, he would not be ready to cry either "Oh, oh," or " No, no."—(Laughter.) What was really the state of the case? Why, that Miss Talbot was a ward in Chancery—(Repeated laughter, and ironical cheers) — and had been placed in a convent.—(Renewed laughter.) He hoped this House was not going to be converted into a second Exeter-hall, where ranting was the order of the day.--(Repeated laughter, and cries of " Hear, hear," and ironical cheers.) Miss Talbot was a ward in Chan cery, placed in this convent with the consent of the Lord Chancellor, and enjoying, under proper protection, all the security that she 9r her guardians could desire. She was the heiress of 80,0001., and he had heard from a gentleman high in the Church that she was duly taken care of.—(Hear, hear,) He had heard of such things as Protestant nunneries, and perhaps the less he said about these the better.—(Loud cries of " Hear, bear," the House being much excited, and ironical cheers being frequent from all sides of the House.) That gentleman unwarrantably intruded himself into the convent at Taunton, and being admitted, he hears from the lady herself that she was not suffering under any re straint—that she was disposed to dedieate herself to the service of God, and to employ her time in prayer, and if she thought proper to dispose of her money in educating the poor or relieving distress, why should she and her affairs be dragged before this House? — (Hear, hear.) Why should this House be made a channel for calumniating a spotless lady?—(Hear, hear.) Ho heard last night a second edition of the under current now raging against the establishment connected with the Church to which he belonged. He had heard second hand what the Hon. Member for Surrey had said, and yet no English Mem ber but the Hon. Member for Arundel had the honesty to rise and rebuke the Hon. Member for Surrey. No Member, however, was called to order unless he was per sonally offensive, but though the Hon. Member, in what he said was not personally offensive to one individual alone, yet his language was highly offensive to fifty mem bers of the House, who professed and believed in the truth of the Catholic Church. It was an insult to him, as well as to them, and he could not let this oppor tunity pass without expressing his indignation at the conduct of the Honourable Member. The Hon. Member said nunneries were brothels. Why he (Mr. Reynolds) had visited many of these nunneries.—(Roars of laughter.) He had relations in many of them. In one of them he had two daughters, and there was not a Catholic Member in that House, he would venture to say, who had not a blood relative in some ono of them. Why, then, should they bo maligned—brutally, beastly maligned? He knew of no convent where the Indies were imprisoned, for they were permitted to walk about the grounds attached to the convent under proper superintendence.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) In spite of that ill-timed laugh, ho repeated his state ment. He hoped they were not about to have a repetition of the scenes in Swiss countries whore the inmates of convents were driven out without clothes in the depth of winter, exposed to all the horrors of the ss anon and the inclemency of the weather. The Noble Lord, at the head of the Government was not present when this gratuitous insult was offered to his creed, but although during the hour and a quarter that the Noble Lord was on his legs last night ho pointedly replied to the speeches of the Hon. Members for Plymouth and Ripon, the Noble Lord not only studiously abstained from rebuking the Honourable Member for Surrey for what he had said, but seconded the insult by calumniating the ecclesiastics of the Roman Catholic Church. The Noble Lord talked about the clergy of that Church absolving soldiers and police from their allegiance, and if hi 3 observations were worth anything, they applied with as much force to a Roman Catholic Member of Parliament as to a Human Catholic soldier, sailor, or policeman. He for one had taken as an an oath, both in the capacity of a magistrate and a Member of Parliament, in which he swore that it was no part of his creed that princes excommunicated or deprived by the Pope might be murdered or de posed by the subjects; bu according to the Noble Lord that oath was worthless, because the clergy could absolve or release him from keeping it. He left a bitter feeling behind, under which he smarted, and he hoped the expression would not be repeated.- -(Hear.) Miss Talbot had been dragged through the press, anh that leviathan the Times devoted a column to-day to her case. He had good authority for saying that she had never become a postulant.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped the House of Commons would not be made the arena for the discussion of such subjects. Lord J. RUSSELL said he had thought it advisable in his speech last evening not to allude to the subject, as he was not actually present when the discussion arose. It was his desire to avoid saying scything which was calculated to irritate or annoy the feelings of Roman Catholic Members.--(Hear, hear.) Mr. BERKELEY said the Hon. Member for Dublin had stated what Mr. Craven Berkeley had said was a falsehood; but he dared him to make that assertion in the presence of his Hon. Relative. What the Hon. Member for Dublin stated was totally unfounded.—(Cle ern.) Mr. REYNOLDS, who rose amidst cries of "Order," and confusion, denied that he used the word falsehood, or said that the object of Mr. Berkeley in going to the convent was to obtain the young lady's money.—(" Oh.") Lord ARUNDEL and SURREY observed that as the case of Miss Talbot was fixed for a hearing before the Lord Chancellor to-morrow (Saturday) it was a great pity to enter into a discussicn of the whole circum stances on the present occasion. Sir B. HALL considered that if the Hon. Member for Dublin had examined the letter of a person styling the Bishop of Clifton with fairness and candour, he would have informed the House that this young lady was a postulant.—(Hear, hear.) In that letter Mrs. Henderson stated that, us the convent did not admit boarders, Miss Talbot had herself suggested that she should apply to be admitted as a postu lant, or a person desirous of taking the veil, and that she was accordingly admitted as a postulant into the convent in the beginning of September last.—(Hear.) In his petition Mr. Craven Berkeley had stated that his step-daughter had become a postulant, and the Hon. Member for Dublin had denied the truth or this state ment, and again subsequently reiterated this denial, whereas the fact itself was deliberately admitted in the letter from ono of his own bishops.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. M. GIBSON said, that before the question was put he wished to call the attention of the Noble Lord at the head of the Government, and the Chaacellor of the Exchequer, to the state of public business. It was now the 21st of March, and he believed he might state with truth that the House had only sat one night fur the transaction of public business. He knew that the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill was the cause of this considerable delay, and he wished to put this ques tion, as there was only, practically speaking, a certain limited duration of the session; and as there were many other public interests which had a right to be attended to, whether it was fair to appropriate so large a portion of the whole session to the discussion of this question of Papal Aggression. He admitted that great numbers of of respectable people took an interest in that question— (Laughfer)—but there were also numbers of people who took an interest in other questions—the coffee duties for instance. That important trade was now almost sus pended, and it became the duty of the Chancellor of the Exchequer at once to come forward and propose the re solutions which would enable the Board of Customs to make their regulations. The same was the case with regard to the timber duties, and he thought that he was entitled to make some complaint of this unfair appropriation of the public time. He hoped that if the debate were not concluded, the Noble Lord would give some intimation that the question would not be resumed with undue haste.— (No, no.) Sir T. L. ACLAND reminded the First Lord of the Admiralty that he had not answered the question which the lion. Member for the University of Oxford had put to him. Sir F. BARING said that the Admiralty had come to the conclusion, after much consideration, that the time had come when they were not justified in sending out any more men to risk their lives in this service. In the present instance there was no object to be gained, because Captain Austin was provisioned for three years, and further provisions had been left him at different places. Sir E. F. BUXTON hoped that the Admiralty would reconsider this determination. Admiral BERKELEY said that nothing could be gained by this, as the whalers could bring back quite as much information as any expedition which misght be dispatched with orders not to be shut up in the icz. t LANDLORD AND TENANT RIGHT. Mr. A STAFFORD wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet, the Secretary for Ireland, whether it was the intention of the Government to introduce any measure with a view to settle the question of tenant-right in England and Ireland. Such Bills were generally intro duced without hesitation, and it was the custom of the House to passs the first reading without discus sion, so that no obstacle whatever was interposed to the introduction of this Bill. He asked the question, because unless he received a definite answer he gave notice that he should shortly pus this qunstion with a view to bring some measure in himself. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said that it was certainly the intention of the Government to bring in a Bill on the subject as soon as possible, but that in the present state of public business it was impossible to say on what day it would be introduced. THE BUDGET. Mr. ROCHE said, that seeing the extent to which the discussion on the Penal Bill to be imposed on Roman Catholics bad extended, he, with other Members, were very d es irous of ascertaining th e mo d e in which the public business was to be condu c ted. H e gave notice that if this discussion was to be continued through much longer time, he, with his friends, would offer every opposition to the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill which the rules of the House allowed. lie saw that the Noble Lord had a Chancellor of the Exchequer, and be supposed the Chancellor of the Ex chequer had a budget, and if the great fi nuti .. cial measure was to be postponed for the pur pose of passing the Bill to which be bad referred, he should, with every means in its power, postpone its settlement. He wished, therefore, that the Ministry would give an answer to the question to the Hon. Member for Manchester, Mr. Milner Gibson. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the question of the Hon. Member for Manchester, and that :put by the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, were of a totally different character. The Honourable Member complained of the delay of public business, in consequence of the discussion of the Eccle siastical Titles Bill. All he had to say was, that he wished most heartily that the debate on that Bill had been closed on Monday last, for he thought that the subject had been pretty well exhausted.—(Hear, hear.) With re spect to the future, after the second reading of the Bill had been passed, it was the intention of the Government to proceed with the army and other estimates before bringing the Government financial arrangements before the House. TIMBER DUTIES. Mr. MACGREGOR gave notice that on Monday he should put a question to the Government, with a view to ascertain whether it was their intention to rem , the timber duties with a view to relieve ship-owners. THE CASE OF MR. LEWIN. In reply to Mr. O'CONNOR, Sir GEORGE GREY repeated that the young man Lewin was seen in company with Thomas, the person who had baen convicted of picking pockets near the Ex hibition in Hyde-park. No bail was offered for the ap pearance of either, but on the hearing of the the evi• dence against Lewin was not sufficient to justify his con viction. bpr. F. O'CONNOR said the Right Hon. Baronet had een misinformed. FRENCH POST. Mr. WILLIAM BROWN wished to ask the Under S.cretary of State what steps have been taken with re gard to the English mails from Paris arriving in London in time to go by the morning mail into the provinces, cr whether any negotiation is now pending on the subject, as it was understood last year, when the Postal Com mittee was sitting, that there was reasonable expectation that the French Government would expedite these mails in time? Mr. C. LEWIS said negociation were still pending on the subject. The motion that the House at its rising should ad journ till Monday was then agreed to. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BILL.—ADJOURNED DEBATE. Mr. B. OSBORNE then rose to resume the adjourned debate, and declared that it should not be his fault if the remainder of this debate did not continue in the tone which the Right Hon. Baronet the limber for Ripon had given to it. He was afraid, after the speeches of the Right Hon. Baronet and the Hon. Member for Ply mouth, it was impossible for him to add anything new to the discussion. (LEFT SPEAKING.) SPORTING NOTES. No. XXI. THE NORTHAMPTON AND MEETING. (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. MANCHESTER IMPROVEMENT BILL. The report was brought up from the Standing Orders Committee, stating that the rules of the House had been complied witb. SHEFFIELD AND GLOSSOP ROAD. The report on this Bill was brought up. LEICESTER SEWERAGE BILL. The report on this Bill was brought up. OUSEBURN BRIDGE AND APPROACHES BILL. The report upon this Bill was also brought up, and ordered to lie upon the table. PAPAL AGGRESSION. Sir R. 11. INGLIS presented petitions from Pershore and several other places against the Papal aggression, and praying for a more stringent measure. Mr. W. 0. STANLEY presented a petition, signed by the Corporation of Chester and a great number of the inhabitants, to the same effect. Sir J. Y. BULLER presented petitions from the Wes leyan congregations of several places in Devonshire, against the Papal egression. Mr. DODD and Mr. BECKETT also presented petitions from similar congregations and to the same effect. Mr. MUNTZ presented petitions from Worcester shire, stating that the petitioners were as anxious to pre serve the political rights of the Roman Catholic subjects of the realm as their own, but expressing a trust that the House would pass some measure whereby the au thority of the Pope, or the authority of any other foreign potentate, may be prevented from exercising any power in this land. Mr. SPOONER presented 16 petitions from different parts of the country deprecating any trifling with the subject of the Papal aggression, and praying that the House would adopt some stringent measures for its im mediate repression. Mr. Child, Lord Sealsam, and several other members presented petitions from various Wesleyan congregations against the Papal aggression. The Earl of Arundel and Surrey, Mr. Morgan John O'Connell, and other Members presented petitions against the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL also presented a petition from Ballycotton, in the county of Cork, stating that a peti tion had been presented from that county, signed by a number of children, the eldest of whom was not more than twelve, and many of whom not snore than three years of age. He, therefore, wished to draw the atten tion of the House to the fact, that the petitioners prayed that a Bill, supported by such discreditable means, migh' not pass into a law. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. Mr. CHRISTOPHER presented eighteen petitions from different parts of Kesteven, in the county of Lin coln, complaining of the distress in which the agricultu rists were now placed, and praying for a revision of the tariff. EXPENSES PROSECUTION BILL. Mr. FI I ZROY presented two petitions praying tha the fifth clause of this Bill may not become part of the law. PAPAL AGGRESSION. Mr. W. EVANS presented petitions from several places in Derbyshire against the Papal aggression, and praying for a more stringent measure than that which was now before the House. He also presented petitions from the Roman Catholics of the same county against the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill. Sir J. TROLLOPE also presented several petitions against the Papal aggression. INCOME-TAX. Sir J. TROLLOPE also presented petitions from Sleaford, signed by 4,000 persons, who, in very strong language, complained of the distress into which they had been sunk by the alteration of the corn-laws, and pray ing for a revision of the income-tax. Mr. PETO presented several petitions from the Wesleyan bodies of Norfolk and Suffolk against the Papal aggression. Similar petitions were presented by Mr. Miles from the Wesleyan Methodists of Somerset; by Mr. B. Deni son from the Wesleyan Methodists of the West Riding; by 'Mr. Hildyard: from the Wesleyan Methodists of Whitehaven; by Mr. Williams, from Kennington, Stockwell, Camberwell, Brixton, and other places in the Borough of Lambeth; by Mr. Grogan from the Wes leyan Methodists of Dublin ; by Sir F. Baring from the Wesleyan Methodists of Chester; by Mr. Stewart from the same body in Newark, and by Mr. Disraeli from Buckingamslaire. Petitions against the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill were presented by Mr. Keogh, from Carlow; by Mr. Reynolds, from various places in Ireland; by Mr. John O'Connell, from the county of Dublin; and by Mr. Grattan, from Longford. THE LAND COMPANY. Mr. F. O'CONNOR presented a petition from a large number of the subscribers to the Land Company, complaining cf the conduct of the located members and praying the House to pass the winding-up Bill. THE SCENE IN THE HOUSE LAST NIGHT. Mr. HAYTER at this stage of the proceeding, moved that the House, at its rising, do adjourn till Mon day next, when Mr. MOORE immediately rose to recall the attention of the House to the scene that occurred last night. He said he felt:compelled, however painful it might be to himself and the House, to call the attention of the House to the subject for the sake of his own cha racter and position, and in doing so, he assured the House that if he had given expressions to feelings of indignation last evening which were not called for by the circumstances of the case, it was to be attributed to his ignorance of the rules of that House and the authority of the Speaker, both of which it was their interest as well as duty to maintain inviolate.—(Hear, hear.) He could not, however, allow the slightest misconception to exist as to what were the opinions which he expressed on that occasion. His opinion was that to speak, not only with irreverence but with levity almost amounting to indecency, of that sacred name which all generations ot Chris tians called blessed, ought not to be permitted in any assembly professing to be Christian.—(" Hear," from the Irish Members.) If those allusions, instead of being applied to the mother of God, had been applied to the mother of princes in this country, such profanation would have been immediately checked.—(Hear.) He would not, as the Honourable Member for Ripon had said, sully his lips by repeating such a term, which he considered ought not to be permitted in an assembly of English gentlemen to be used, as appertaining to a community of Christian ladies, dedicated to a life of reli gion and charity. He confidently appealed on such a matter not only to the accomplished and cultivated minds of English gentlemen, but to the intuitive percep tions of all Englishmen against the prurient fancy of obscenity, senility, and dastardly insinuations—(Order, order)—then he would say unmanly insinua tions against English ladies.—(Hear, hear.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he was not present when the discussion arose, but it appeared to him that nothing was more in accordance with the rules of the House than the statement of the Speaker.— (Cheers.) He (Lord John Russell) did not wish the privileges of the House circumscribed, but he must say that every one could not but regret that anything falling from an Hon. Member should give offence to Roman Catholic Members.—(Cheers.) Mr. J. O'CONNELL hoped, for the sake of order and decency in their proceedings, such language would not be used for the future. Sir R. 11. INGLIS said that after the Hon. Member for Surrey had last night expressed his sorrow if he had given pain to any one, and after the statement which the Noble Lord the First Lord of the Treasury had just made, deprecating the introduction of language into the debate which might give pain to any portion of the House, he hoped that nothing further would take place on the subject. Having the opportunity of ad dressing the House on another subject, he should say a few words on the subject of a contradiction which had been given by the Hon. Member for Dublin to a statement contained in a petition which he (Sir R. Inglis) had presented a few nights ago; the most important point of which was, that an individual therein named was at that time a postulant in a con vent at Clifton, about to become a nun in that con vent. The Honourable Member for Dublin, he un derstood, had contradicted that statement most distinctly. It was needless for him (the Hon. Baronet) to state that he knew nothing of the subject from his own knowledge, but be held in his hand a letter from the Hon. Cray en Fitz hardinge Berkeley, in which that gentleman having seen by the public prints that the Hon. Member for Dublin had contradicted the statement contained in the petition, now re-asserted his original statement, stating that he him self had visited Miss Talbot in the convent on the 14th of last month, and bad heard from her own lips and from the superior of the convent that in six months she would take the white veil, and at the expiration of twelve months more take the black, and become a professed nun. Upon hearing this from his stepdaughter Mr. Berkeley stated that he had strongly remonstrated with her, and called to her mind the injunctions of her dying mother with such effect as to draw from her an exclamation that she had yet six months to consider on the subject, before she took the first decided step. The Hon. Baronet, having made this statement, eanutr, during proceeded to put the question, of which he had given notice, to the First Lord of the Admiralty, tion to so entitrheel s to the causes, if any, of the delay in sending out a steamer to meet Captain Austin, R.N., in the Arctic y e different nsul ng s summer? m subject, er Thiscaused su c d o d n e s n i d t e r r a a n b s l i e - Mr. REthYelaCistL amusement in the House. question s t d i o i did nh ew n h o h wish had to been say ut to anythinghim by reply to fnaocttssaoyutatof word • the Hon. Baronet for University of Oxford. In to it, but he would sim intelligence of the House which this inquiry arose, and hp d eleye In deed, d b a t e e could the rely upon the for adopting a fair view a t he matter which had been l aid before them, and he sincerely that it would c ome to some definite decisi on in this matter y He did not int end to enter into the discussion of the who le ques tion, but he wou ld sim p l y refer to a letter which he FRIDAY PYTCHLEY HUNT " Fair Hope, the season, to the turfite yielda— Large stakes, rich handicaps, and sporting fields." Slle—The fickle goddess has befriended my efforts very generally lately, my fancy animals in almost every instance rennin g first or second. At Warwick, on Tuesday, for the Trial Stakes, I placed Aaron Smith first, and Nancy second ; the latter ran home in the place I assigned her, but the former, quite unsuited to heavy ground (the course was in a most wretched state—under water in some parts), was no where ! Mark Tapley, with 51bs. less than weight for age, not backed in the ring for a farthing, winning easily. I was second with Kissaway for the Willoughby Handicap, but very near being first Clothworker, best suited to the mud, winning after a desperate struggle by barely a neck! On Wednesday, I was very successful, not being wrong in any one instance. Concerning the Great Warwickshire Handicap, I remarked in note No. XX, that " The winner, I fancy, will be one of thel Three-years-old, and the SUNRISE tomorrow may be a glorious one; and I have but little DouaT that Mr. Palmer's horse ( Doubt) will be about third;" these remarks were verified to the letter, Sunrise won easily, by a length, from Bushrang•r ' and Doubt was third; the rest of the field , including Mark Tapley, Clothworker, and Zadoc, were in difficulties halfway up the distance. In my selections for the Castle and Two-year-old Stakes, I was on the right scent with the Knight of the Tlistle for the former, and with the Slane filly and Poetess for the latter; the last-named race was a very interesting affa , r, the Slane filly winning by only a neck, after a dead heat with Poetess ! I should have taken the latter for choice, had 1 been certain of her running. With this stake ended the flat races at Warwick, and with this day the winter quarter closed, after two days cold drench ing rain in a most winter-like manner; however, the spring quarter opened yesterday, luckily, for the steeplechases of the military, in a most brilliant style, the air being warm and balmy,.and the ethereal cerulean in great force through out the day. I was very near hitting the first three for the crack Military Steeplechase in Hawksworth, Johnny Oakes, and Oscar; the first two were placed second and third, being beaten cleverly by Colonel Shirley's Fugleman. The first "meet" of the legitimate racing season is at North ampton on Tuesday and Wednesday next ; the anticipations of sport and attendance is first-rate, I hope they may be rea lized. The trial Stakes is the first on the list, among the nominations for which figure the names of Nancy, Peep o'day Boy, Recruit, and the Swede. It is difficult to say at this present writing whether Peep-o'day Boy or Recruit will be found at the post, I should say not ; consequently NANCY must be my winner, with the Swede second best in my estimation. Secoed on the list stands the first Northampton Trierulial Stakes, f. r which 22 youngsters are entered, none of wh a m have ever appeared in public; se lecting a winner from such a lot is hazardous work, but, as I have no public running to guide me, I must judge by the stable raporte, which announce the following facts :—Lord Clifden'a Magnes and backbut, and Mr. Watson's Ambrose, are the Newmarket guns; Lord Eglinton's Pelopidas is something more than a pocket-pistol ; Red Hind represents Goodwood; and Freedom, Hirsute, and Frantic are clashing animals, the property of the confederates, Messrs. Payne and Greville. At present, not knowing which horses Lord Clifden cr the confederates intend to run for this particular stake, I must hold hard until Monday, believing, however, that the representatives of these stables and Pelopidas will b i6e or Stakeser t i off the stake. The Great Northampton the card ; I anticipate seeing a field of St. Rosalie, 5 yrs, Bst 31b—Le gerdemain. 5 yrs 11 astand to the carry nex pto st , on z e 7st 111b—Clothworker, 5 yrs, 7st 91b— Kissaway, 5 yrs, 7st Gib—Bushranger, 4 yrs, 7st 41b—Zadoc, c 4 yrs, 7st 31 b — The Cocktail, 5 yrs, 7st 31C—Mooltan, 4 yr-, ist 11b —Cottager, 5 Sts, Gst 811)—The Swindler, 4 yrs, bet 511) —Nutmeg , 4 yrs, 6st 31b—Torpor, 4 yrs, sst 121 b, or Harpsichord, 3 yrs, sst 51b—The Ban, 3 yrs, sst 101b—Sister to Legislator, 4 yrs, Let 71b—colt by John o'Gaunt, 3 yrs, 4st 131b—Paedemus, I yrs, 4st 121b—Ginevra, 3 yrs, 4st 101 b, or Mouse, 4 yrs, 7st 21b—Leap Year, 3 yrs, 4st 71b. Having carefully analyzed the chances of the animals engaged in this stake some time since (February 7 and 14), in Notes, Nos. 8 and 10, it is not worth while doing this again ; I then spoke favourably of -Legerdemain, Clothworker, the Cocktail, Nutmeg, The Ban, colt by John o'Gaunt, and Ginevra. Legerdemain I still hold in great estimation, and think that she and St. Rosalie will master the top-weights; I also en tertain a favourable opinion of The Cocktail's chance, as well as Nutmeg's, this couple hold the middle weights safe; The Ban is much fancied, he has, however,comparatively with the: other three-years old a rather stiff weight to carry, but, notwithstanding, as be is vet? , game, he may pull Sir Joseph's colours through triutsphant y. Ginevra, with the feather 4st 10Ib up, ought to be in front, as Mr. Payne occasionally wins in a mysterious eaanner , when least expected, he may do so in this instance. The colt by John o'Gaunt, though not very often backed, I have a strong penchant for; I think it very possible if he does not win, he may repeat Sylvan's performance of 1848. To sum up, I opine, the race will lay between St. Rosalia,Legerdemain, The Cocktail, Nutmeg, The Ban, and c. by John o'Gaunt, and I think it not at all improbable they may catch the judge's eye thus : LEGERDEMAIN ... •-• •• • 1 COLT BY JOHN O'GAUNT• 2 ST. ROSALIA ••• 3 the other three close up ; my final remarks on Monday, when I will also touch upon the second day's races in a more general way, merely remarking at the present moment that The Greek's chance for the Althorpe Park Stakes, al though supported very stiffly throughout yesterday at the West-end,and in,the City, is inferior to others in the race, and that Frantic, Flirt, Miss Conyngham, and one or two New market horses will be heard of favourably before the race is run ; the three, I've named, however, stand the highest in my estimatior. For Earl Spencer's Plate, The Old Fox, 5 yrs, 7st 1211); Equiria, 4 yrs, ist 71b ; Visite, 4 yrs, Get 121 b ; Humphrey, 4 yrs, Gst Blb ; and Souffle, 3 yrs, bet 1211), look the most like business, the last-named for choice. The Ten Sov. Stakes ought to be won by Ginevra or Ella; Sunrise, I should imagine will not run. I am, Sir, yours, ec THE SPIRIT OF THE TURF. March 21, 1851. - MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current, March 21.) Sloan.—To-day there was no improvement in the demand for West India Sugar, and the purchases amounted to only 372, making for the week 944 hhda and trcs, and prices close 6d under those of Friday last; there is also a further in crease in the quantity on offer; at auction 115 bhds 31 trcs 42 brls crystalized Demerara were sold, fine white at 47s to 50s, yellow 41s 'o 46s 6d, and low 39s to 403 6d. REFINED.—To day, home dealers made purchases with much cautiea in Relined Sugar, but fair brown lumps are not offered under 4-s. M A cluTlus • —Thi s a ft er noon a reduction of 6d t oo k p lac e at the public sales of 7,383 bags 33 ca sks Mauritius Su g ar, still nearly the whole sold, yellow at 37s 6d to 41s, low 36s to 375, good and fine brown 34e to 365, inferior 30s to 335, very ord 27s to 295, and grey sorts 853 to 40s per cwt. EAST INDIA. —This afternoon Madras Sugar met with little attention, and prices declined fully 6d ; of 5,611 bags at auction not above half sold, good and fine grocery at 40s to 425, mid 38s to 395, and a small proportion at 34, 6d to 35s for good mid soft yellow. For Bengal there is a quiet market, and of 1,068 bags at auction a small part only sold, mid and good white Benares at 41s 6d to 435, damp and washed 39s to 425, and fair soft yellow 31s to 35s 6d; these are about former rates. FoußlGN.—.Today there was no public sale of Foreign Sugar, and the private purchases are small for all purposes, with sellers at rather lower rates. MOl` A ssEs. -- Only limited purchases have been made this and r none ates week. Barbado es an d Antigua at 16 s to 16 s 6d, o th er sorts 148 to 15s 6d ; Porto Rico and C uba 14s to 15s 6d ; Ben g al and Mauritius 12 s to 14 s; there are several buyers rather under these rate s . Cocoa.—Th e lastof hasb e s:7k ° ff h . a r v e e d at begin auctiontil a i maintained a ; i n b e y dfor Wesr, pri vate treaty, ho wever , on ly small purchases have been made ; Trinidad red at 51s to 555, grey 45s to 50s, and Grenada 425. to 48s. The ma r k e t f o r foreign has yet a dull aspect , and the small parcels so ld p r ivately were at rather lower rates : at auction 260 bags Bahia partly found buyers at 29s to 30s per cwt. COFFEE.—This a fternoon holders of Plantation C e y lo n Coffee were not disposed to sell at any further reduction, but home dealers operated with caution ; of the parcels offered at public sale, amounting to 370 casks 752 bags, not half found buyers—fine went at 67s 6d to 70s 6d, mid and good 56s to 63s 6d, low mid 54s to 555 6d, fine and fine fine ord 49s to 53s 6d, goo 4 ord 46a 6d to 48s 6d, and triage 43s to 495. In Native little was done was and at auction 458 bags were taken in at 46 s ;as also the case with 272 bags Bahia at 44s to 4's for good clad. TEA.—Today the public sales of Tea attracted little at tention, and former rates were supported with difficulty for black and green. Of 4,000 pkgs offered, the small part only of 400 found buyers, s ill ord Cougou cannot be ob tained under 111 d per lb. RICE.— In Bengal the private operations have been upon a small scale for all purposes, although there are sellers ra- ther under previous rates. At auction 2,853 bags were however, nearly sold ; mid and good white at 95 to 10s, common, broken and dusty Bs. For fine white not more than Its per cwt can be obtained. There is, however more disposition to operate in Madras in consequence of the low rates that prevail; and privately several parcels have been sold at 7s to 8s 6d for pinkey ; none has been of fered for auction this week. In Cargo and Pearl Barley Rice sales are yet trifling, and 78 to 8s is the value. Imposts have been light this week. Clean -- Rice is purchased with caution ; Patna low to fine at lOs 6d to 17 ; town dresed Carolina 20s to 28s ; and American 16s 6d to 17a 6d. Sago met with increased attention, and prices continue to ad vance. At auction 535 bas a ere so d at 20s to 21s 6d for sma 1 peal; and at 21s 93 to i3s for mid to fine largo grain Sago Flour is wanted at 15s to Lys fd ; few parce s ar , , however, on car. Of St Vincents Arrowroot 41 pkgs, and 567 tins at auction were in part sold at 5 1 /d to 8 1 4 d; SPICES.— At public sale this afternoon 350 bags Pimento sold at 4%d to 5d ; these are steady rates. SPIRITS. —There are still few buyers of East India Rum, and rather lower rates have been taken ; the present value is is 51(1 to is 614 d proof. Leeward Island has been operated is with caution at Is 7 11 ,4c1 to Is Bd, proof being rather lower prices; there is a better supply. Demerara is cheaper; the sales are 300 puns nearly all at 2s 5d to 2s 6d for 36 to 38 per cent over proof. The home and export demand is small for Jamaica ; and on the part of holders there was a desire to sell, plain and middling quality 30 to 34 per cent over proof at 2s 7d to 2s lld ; good middling and goad, 33 to 38 over, 3s to 3s 6d, and tine 3s 8d to 4s 3d. In Brandy purchases have been upon:a small scale for all purposes ; and there are sellers of Cognac best Brands of the vintage of 1850 at 4s 3d to 4s 5d ; 1849 ditto 4s dto4a 8d ; 1848 ditto 4s 9d to 4s lld ; 1847 ditto 5s Id to 5s 3d; and inferior sorts 3s to 4s. Geneva is Is 7d to is Bd, fine is 9d to 2s; British made Spirit is 9s 8d to 9s 9d; and Gin 8s 3d for 22 per cent under proof. COCHINEAL —Me demand is better, and privately several parcels have been so d at full rates; the quantity on offer is also less than last week. At auction 112 bags of Honduras were chiefly disposed of at from 3s 4d to 3s 9d for low to good mid silvers, and a few bags of black at 3s 7d to 4s 4d for low to good mid, but IC bags Mexican silvers were taken in at 3s 3d per lb, being above the value. INDIGO.—The demand has increased f r Guatemala, and there is an advance on last week's rates of 2d per lb. At auction 107 serous were all sold at from 2s 4d to 43 9d for very low lean hard copper and coppery Cortes to mid and fine Sobres. In East India a fair trade has been concluded privately, in consequence of some holders submitting to a small reduction on last quar terly sales rates. At auction 12 chests Kurpah were sold at 3s 3d to 3s 93 for common, but 50 chests Manilla were taken in at Is 9d to 3s 8d for low and mid. SALTPETRIi.—To-day the market for Saltpetre was again in a dull state, and at former rates there were free sellers. At auction 98', bgs Calcutta were taken in at 360 for ord quality 131- per cent refraction. TALLOW.—This afternoon at public sale 700 casks N. S, Wales Tallow were chiefly sold, Sheep at 36s 6d to 393 9d. Ox 26s to 37s 3d ; 800 pkgs South American 35s to 39s for Low to fine. BANK OF ENGLAND. (From this night's Gazette.) AnAccount, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria, cap. 89,fet the Week ending on Saturday, tho 15th day of March, 1851. 113813 Z DZPAZTNEHT. ' Notes issued.. ...... 27,7 1 1,6! 0 Government debt •• 11,015,100 Other securities .. • • 2,984,908 Gold coin and bullion 13,678,315 Silver buillon • • • • •• 33,378 £ 2 ---- 7,711,690 I .Z 27,711,00 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. Dated the 40th day of March, 1851. BANKING} DEIAITMEN T. -C Proprietors'capital .. 14,553,000 Rest .. • • • • ....... 8,616,367 Public deposits (in slading Exchequer, Commissioners of National Debt, Sav ings -banks, and Di vidend accounts) .. 8,227,969 Other deposits • • • • .. 9,287,826 Seven day and other 8i115.... • • .• .• .... 1,024,992 Government securi ties (including Dead Weight Annuity)•• 14,145,250 Other securities •• •• 12,904,218 Notes ••••••• • .. .• .. 8,956,255 Gold and silver coin •• 704,451 A 36,710,174 X 36,710,174 lIA.RSIIALL. Chief Cashier. Dated the 20th day of March, 1: COURSE OF EXCHA Amsteroam •• • • 11 15% Ditto, three months .. 11 17% Rotterdam .... ••.. • • 11 174 Antwerp • • ............ 25 22!C i Brussels • • •, 25 22 Baruburgh ...• M.B. 13 7% Altona Paris, 3 days'sight 25 0 Ditto, 3 months .... 25 20 Marseilles • . .......... 25 22 y 4 80urdeaux......... . Franktortou Maine.... 119% Vienna, effec. 13 15 Trieste, ditto—. • • .... 13 16 Petersburga,Sll. Rble.. 37 Madrid •• •• •• •• •• •• 50 Cadiz •• •• •• •• •• .• •• •• 50 3( Barcelona • • • • • • • • • • • • Seville.. •• •• •• •• •• •• EVENING, MARCH 21, 1851. NGE.-(THIS DAY. IGibraltar•• • • .• • • ..•• •• Leghorn .• .• ••••• • • • • • 30 55 Genoa ••••••• • • • • • e• 25 55 Milan ................ Venice • . .• • • • • • • • • • • • • garbles ...... • • •• 41% Palermo, 125 Lisboa •••••••• • • • • • • • • 153 X, Oporto.. •••••••• •• •• •• 53 % [tie Janeiro ........ • • 29 Buenos Ayres New York,6odays'sight Philadelphia ?AMU OP BULLION, PIB 011. Foreign Geld in bars • . Xll 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin 0 0 0 Spanish Doubloons .. 0 0 0 Now Dollars • • ...• 0 4 11% Sliver is bars 0 b Iyy NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. PORTSMOUTH, MARCH 20.—Vice-Admiral E-ir George Sey mour, K.C.8., in the Cumberland, 70, remains at St. He len's, win , bound. The Penelope steam-frigate, 22, Captain Lyster, was un docked this morning, and came out cf the steam basin. The Pyrenees convict-ship sailed from St. Helen's roads this morning. The Portuguese steam-sloop weighed from Cowes roads this morning at daylight, and sailed eastward. The Prince Regent. 90, Captain Harris, has received a new mast and bowsprit, and will now be docked again to complete her outfit. the American line of packet ship Independence arrived this morning from New York, 20 days out. APPOINTMENTS. WeoLwrcir, MARCH 20.—Paymaster and Purser William T. Grieve (1850), to be secretary to Commodore Peter Al'Quhae, of the Imaum, 72, receiving-ship at Jamaica. Second-Master Daniel hall (1848), from the Impreg nable, flag-ship at Devonport, to the Fisgard, flag-ship at Woolwich. The Leopard steam-frigate when out of the hands of the shipwrights will have ballast put on board, and then be taken round Portsmouth to be fitted at that port for service. Master's-Assistant C. J. Cawley to the Victory, flag-ship at Portsmouth. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF COMMONS, March 20. IRISH POOR-LAW. Mr. SCULLY moved for copies of all correspond ence between the 'nudes board of guardians and the Poor-law Commissioners in Ireland, between the Ist day of January and the 10th day of March, 1851, relative to the refusal by the Poor-law Commis sioners to allow the board of guardians to increase the employment of the inmates in remunerative labour ; and return of the number of inmates in the different work•. houses in Ireland, specifying their ages between 7 and 15, 15 and 20, 20 and 40, and 40 and upwards, the different sexes, the number of able-bodied, aged and infirm. Sir WILLIAM SOMERVILLE asked the Hon. Gentleman to postpone his motion till he had an opportunity of communicating with the department to which it referred. He had no doubt the returns would be readily granted, but as an act of courtesy the Poor-law Commissioners ought to be consulted first, before the Rouse acceded to the motion. Mr. SCULLY could not comply with the request of the Right Hon. Baronet, as the motion he had made was one of considerable importance to Ireland and would admit of no delay. (Oh, oh !) The Thurles board of guardians were anxious to employ the numerous inmates in the union workhouse, so as, if possible, to make it a self-supporting establishment. On the Ist of March 18,1, there were in the house no fewer than 700 able males, and 1,500 adult females. The guardians had had some com munication with the Board of Manufactures and Industry in Dublin, with the object of giving the inmates useful and reproductive employment. The Thurles board of guardians were prepared to make advances for this purpose, but the Poor-law Commissioners wrote, and imperatively forbade the design. They objected to the rewards and stimulants by which the guardians hoped to encourage the industry of the inmates. The board wished to form a fund from this reproductive employment for the promotion of emigration, but the Poor-law Commissioners objected to this, on the ground that there would be such an increase in the applications for relief, and in the expenditure, as to make the rates very oppressive to the smaller ratepayers. It was right the House should know whether the Government adopted this principle of preventing boards of guardians from making use of the labour of the inmates in the workhouses, and making these establish ments self-supporting. Let the board of guardians have due authority to use the power they possessed of employing the inmates of the workhouses as they thought proper, and he believed that not only would it be the means of raising Ire land, and giving a stimulus to those who lived there, but, through that source of industrial education, would confer a blessing on the country. Sir G. GREY was not aware that there was any objection to this motion, but he would recall to the recollection of the House what his Right' Hon. Friend the Secretary for Ireland had stated before the motion was brought on, that on Tuesday, when the Hon: Gentleman gave notice of his motion, he had written to Dublin on the subject, and that there had; not yet been time to receive an answer. He would therefore move that the debate be adjourned to that day week. The debate was adjourned accordingly. SUNDAY TRADING. On the motion of Mr. WILLIAMS, the following Merne berg were named as a Select Committee on the Sunday Trading Prevention Bill :—Mr. W. Williams, Mr. B. Wall. Mr. Anstey, Sir De Lacy Evans, Sir W. Clay, Sir B. Hall, Mr. Alderman Humphery, Mr. Masterman, Mr. Wakley, Lord R. Grosvenor, Mr. Alcock, Lord 11. Lennox, Mr. Bankes, Mr. Kershaw, and Sir David Dundas. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES BILL. ADJOURNED DEBATE. On the order of the day fur the second reading of the Ec clesiastical Titles Bill, ligLord J MANNERS presented a petition from Colchester, praying that the Bill might be rendered more effective. The debate was then resumed by Mr. NEWDEGATE, who said that the part of the subject to which he wished to call the attention of the House was the aggression on the temporal sovereignty and civil indepen dence of this nation which had been committed by the agents of Rome. Let the House remember, that although the Bishop of Rome had taken upon himself to establish in hthose is country a hierarchy under the plea that th e body of t who were adherents of that religion of which they deemed him the head, required it, he had, moreover, sent here a t cardinal, a privy councillor, selected from his senae as a legate, to regulate, preserve, and extend his temporal an. thority. Already that had had its effect. The Noble Lord in his opening speech adverted to the wide range adopted for its operation by the Synod of Thurles, and that that synod had entered into that vast social and civil question between la , dlord and tenant, which was so intricate, so dangerous, and so deep, that as yet that House, the legi timate Legislature of the country, had shrunk from inter fering with it. But that synod, in so interfering in the social affairs of Ireland, merely obeyed the bidding of the Pope's legate in that country. He wanted to show that in this country Cardinal Wiseman was also a legate of the Pope —a legate a W ere , armed with st ill wi der powers than Dr. Cullen, and who, as he (Mr. Newdegate) believed, merely delayed interfering with our social, civil, and tem poral affairs until that House should have separated for the recess. That part of the question had scarcely been touched u pon by any othe r s p eaker than himself; and, as h e was both a layman and A Protestant, he hoped the — H owse would pardon him if he informed them of the nature of the office and functions Dr. Wiseman came here to exercise, and showed them that from the earliest periods of our history it had been contrary to the constitutions and common law of the country that a legate of the Pope, and especial a cardinal, should come into this country without the leave of the So vereign, and without an oath taken that he would attempt nothing against the realm and liberties of the people. If he could prove this, as he thought he could, he should have con tributed his mite to a better understanding of the question, and to relieve the measures that were required to repel this aggression frem the invidious imputation of religious per secution.-(Hear, hear.) He found that there was a meet ing of the clergy of the Established Church a few days ago at Sion College, at which Pr. M.Caul, quoting from a recognised authority of the Catholic Church, stated that the order of cardinals was literally a part of the Papacy and constitution-the privy council, which was the body corporate of the Pope, and then gave an account of how the office and power of the cardinal was wielded throughout. From that account it appeared that the office of cardinal, when the Pope assumed the temporal attributes of the Em peror, was converted into that of privy councillor, and that the cardinals ought not to be absent from the Papal Court except by reason of being sent out as legates. Car dinal Wiseman, then, could only be here as a legate. Tan Espin, whose works were recognised at Maynooth, alto said that whatever might be the case with other legates, cardinal legates were called legates a latere, because they era taken from the side of the Pope. He believed that Dr. Wiseman had been asked whether he had taken the oath of privy councillor, and that his answer was, that he had rot. But he had taken the oath of archbishop in full, and that would be an excuse far not taking the oath of privy councillor; but he (Mr. Newdegate) could find no possible authority for the omission. However, the oath of archbishop was strictly the oath of privy councillor, binding the party to discharge temporal functions, and with this remarkable addition, that for the recovery of such rights and property as had been alienated from the Romish Church he would do his utmost. He wanted to show that Cardinal Wiseman, by his own act as cardinal priest, ad verted to that very function of labouring to the utmost for the recovery of the goods of the Church. It was a very long time since there had been a cardinal legate in England, and for this good reason, that it was contrary to the ancient statute law of this realm that those temporal officers of a foreign potentate should reside among us. Even Cardinal Beaufort, the brother of Henry VI., had found it necessary to have a special statute enacted in his favour before he could reside in England as cardinal legate; Cardinal WoLey was appointed legate at the express instance of Henry - VI I. ' • and Cardinal Pole, after he had been compelled to leave England because he resisted Henry VIII.'s proceed ings with the temporalities of the Church, was ap pointed legate in England, not upon the motion of the Pope, but at the desire of Queen Mary. In the time of Elizabeth, the cardinal whom the reigning Pope had sent to England as nuncio received, in the Netherlands, whence he had sent to request permission to enter England, a prohibition from entering the realm, on the distinct ground that the ancient statutes of the realm declared that no legate from the Papal Court might reside in England. Happy would it have been for this country had the advisers of the present Queen emulated the firmness of those of Queen Elizabeth. Had but the Noble Lord opposite acted up to the professions of his letter. he would by this time have been at the head of one of the most powerful Governments ever known in this country, and the opposition in Parliament would have been extinguished altogether, instead of occupy ing the position they had now attained. The Noble Lord had described the manner in which various foreign countries had guarded against Papal sggression. Of these Prussia was the country in which the latest attempt of the kind had been merle. In 1829 Cardinal A_ bani was appointed by the Pope Roman Catholic Bishop of Konigsberg. Upon his re fusal to take the oath r f allegiance to the Prussian Crown he was, by order of the Government, at once conducted to the frontier, under an escort, and sent home. So again, in 1837, when the Archbishop of Cologne had committed vari ous acts inconsistent with the civil rule of Prussia, he was at once placed under surveillance, until he should be re moved by the Pope. But here, in Engl 'ad, a cardinal legate was allowed at full liberty to machinate, at the head of an organized conspiracy of priests, agitating the whole country, and exciting a struggle painful to contemplate. The Noble Lord said he was anxious to prevent synodical action ; all he need to do was to prevent the presence here of any legate a latere, for, unless by such an official, no synod could be ca nonically summoned, and without his presidency the pro ceedings of no synod were valid. Cardinal Wiseman had stated that the late aggression was based upon four conside rations-', that previous to 1847 the Catholics were still un der the pressure of the penal law, and enjoyed no liberty of conscience; 2. that the religious orders had previously no houses in England; 3, that previous to that period there was nothing approaching parochial divisions; and 4, that the in crease of their chapels and ministers had induced the aggres sion. After briefly alluding to the Bi 1 which had been in troduced by the Hon. Member for Youghal in 1847, for regu lating charitable Roman Catholic bequests, which had been commented upon and objected to by the Law Committee of the Association of St. Thomas of Canterbury, because it made Roman Catholic bishops liable to be examined before a lay tribunal, and which, being opposed by all the Roman Catholic Members of Parliament on similar grounds, was subsequently abandoned, the Honourable Member pro ceeded to observe, that Cardinal Wiseman relied upon the religious orders as the instruments of his tyranny. Now, let the House look at the increase of these establish ments within the last few years, and he had an especial object in directing attention to this portion of the sub ject. In 1847 there were 31 convents in this country ;in 1848 there were 38, and in 1851 they had increased to 53. He did not know that there was anything so pe-uliarly at tractive about these establishments in the eyes of Protestants that they should rejoice at this increase, but he rather thought that that House would not show a due regard to the liberty of the subjects of this country if they did not pass some law for the inspection cf those places.- (Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") It could not be out of the recollection of the House that the Hon. Baronet the Member for the Uni versa), of Oxford (Sir R. H. Inglis) had a few nights since presented a petition from the stepfather of a young lady who was now immured in one of those prisons. Since that occasion the Honourable Member for Dublin had risen in his place and stated that Miss Talbot was not in that place as a postulant.- (" Hear, hear," from Mr. Fagan.) The Hon. Member said " Hear, hear." He (Mr. Newdegate) had the authority of Mr. Craven Berkeley for stating that he had been distinctly informed by Miss Jerningham, who was the head of that religious house, that Miss Talbot was retained there as a postulant.-(" No, no," from Mr. Fagan.) Well ;he had the authority of Miss Jerningham, or Mrs. Jerningham, or Mother Jerningham, for making that statement, and she was the head of that establishment, and ought to know. (Hear.) He must say that when he listened to that petition I e could not help in quiring what was the Lord Chancellor about?-(Hear, hear. ) Were his wards, as minors, to be placed, against the will of their nearest relatives, in convents, secluded from the world? It appeared that the powers of that high functionary must be strangely crippled if such things were allowed with im punity. Let the House consider the case of a young girl separated from the nearest and tenderest ties which nature had interwoven with the best feelings of mankind, and plunged into the cold seclusion of that place of imprison men-, while the keeper of the Queen's conscience, the highest functionary of the land, her legal father, sat impotently by and saw every insidious art made use of to wring from that unhappy girl the means of aggrandizing the order to which she belonged.- (Hear, hear.) It was absurd to talk of reli gious liberty while such things existed. In his own neigh bourhood there were coevents-too many. From one of them some years ago a nun escaped. Unfortunately, she was taken back. What did they know further of that woman? Nothing; except that within a week afterwards 15 cwt. of iron stanchions were put up to barricade the win dows, and to convert the place into a perfect prison. -(Hear, hear.) Women entered there. They died. There was no account of their illness or their death. No coroner's in quest was held. They were utterly shut out from light and life, and, he would add, from the protection of the law, He did heartily trust, that whatever the opposition might be that House would insist upon an enactment for looking into transactions which were thus carefully hidden from the public eye.-(Hear, hear.) Then be came next to the monasteries. In 1847 there were 8 in England, in 1848 there were 11, and in 1851 they had increased to 17. He wanted to know why the Noble Lord, as he was about to enact a statute to give effect to some of the clauses of the Act of 1829, had totally omitted all the clauses with refer ence to these regular orders. He asserted that we ha a right to claim the registration and surveillance which the Act of 1829 imposed, and he could not understand why, when the Noble Lord had had four months to consider what was to be done, he had so totally forgotten those provisions of an Act to which he was for ever expressing his attach ment. He had seen it stated that there had been of late a great decrease of the order of Jesuits, particularly in this town. Now, he had no great admiration of that order, bet he rather entertained the opinion which had been so ably ex'- pressed in a most manly and straightforward speech by the Hon. Member for Tamworth- (Hear, hear) -and it must be remembered that that Hon. Baronet spoke with the know ledge of a witness-that he had seen their working in a re public, in a free country with a population of two-thirds Protestants and one-third Roman Catholics, and that he had seen the happy results of Jesuit intrigue.-(Hear, hear.) He ( Mr. Newdegate) warned the Noble Lord to listen to that opinion, and he begged also to tender him this information - that there were ris Jesuit missions in London until Cardinal Wiseman became vicar-apostolic; that he recommended them and sanctioned their functions; and that they h a d enormously increased since he had presided over this district. Cardinal Wiseman stated, in his appeal, that the increase of the Jesuits, s J e e s m u t g s h , that order was to enable him to enforce the decrees of his t were e ly, master. If so, it was time we looked to those whom in tended to be his instruments. The fact was that the regular had not been withioluetar,thheeiarr.)sharreheiinr the very teeth of this aggression. They were the head and orders of the Church i o n r s t j i l g i :a i m on t l o i e t r E ' y s ,tiwraointphde especially :themselves, which set n sa ation to them as subjects. To them u fr p o o n n t- it t , he th p a r t iac th ip e a y l allaper aside t ec h p ti t ehlsae weret r e i g d h i ts thesetuo r f disturbances f e all institutions were alike in their application to the people, the only difference bein m g which could best serve their pur pose. If they saw amonarchy which they could not con trol, that order laboured like slaves that they might overturn it. It was just the same with a republic. History s h o wed that th ey would not stop at any crime, from parricide to sim p le m urder, to serve their purpose. There agreat increase of thi s or d er, an d for t h at reason said the Protestant su bj ects of her Ma j esty h ad a expect that some account s h ou l d b e ta k en o f t h ese wra st ig g gaa e shi n ntt t h s tblen O f aggression.-(Hear.) With reference to this mustph t a b dated b l table looked kh t e l e dne November rot the uls6b e,0,1th841 head a7icin ew o aa f hi dri F ec, o rh: r g, e i,hr i o g ahu n des b ordereen Affairs, Society o l ioi J dnf e s ua u jp i cdo t si s nus , t tta h sht e ce Noble and in a political point of view. In its religious cha racter it is a society avowedly established to make war upon the Protestant religion. What wonder, then, that in a small country like Switzerland, where two-thirds of the people are Protestants, the introduction of such a society should give rise to dissensions between Catholic and Pro testant, and should be viewed with aversion by the majority of the nation? In its ecclesiastical character the Society of Jesuits is known to be exclusive and encroaching. Can it be surprising, then that in Switzerland, as in other countries, a great portion even of the Catholic . population should look upon the Jesuits with jealousy an d dislike?" Those were the sentiments of the Noble Lord at the head of Foreign Affairs in reference to the Jesuits in Switzerland, and he (Mr. Newdegate) asked whether they were not equally ap plicable to this country? - (Hear, hear.) He wished to ask whether the Noble Lord intended to permit the residence and accredited action in this country of a person intrusted, a 4 Cardinal Wiseman was, with full legatine powers? The powers of a legate were to manage all the affairs-civil, eco nomical, and political-of the nation committed to his charge. 1 , . was true no legate could manage or control the affairs of this country, but that lie might and would interfere with them there could be no doubt.-( Hear, hear.) Ile spoke the voice of the Protestants of England, and he spoke from communications made to nina by peaceful and orderly men, when he told the Noble Lord that they were content to b 3 protected from these aggressions by law, but that if they were not protected by law, they would take the matter into their own hands.-(Hear, and a cry of " Oh.") Mr. KNOX (Dungannon) wished to express his indigna tion and that of the people of Ulster at the conduct of the Government with regard to this Bill. The letter of th e Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) had been regarded by oaf Protestant in the kingdom as an indi cation that he inte lee.. to do his duty to the country in p rotecting its re e l s When, however, the Noble Lord brcug ht forward a meneurey it turned out to be a milk-snd-water affair, and did net h .e. any means bear out the declarations c ontained in his ce,lr brated letter. What followed? Some Hon. Mein cash threatened the Noble L rd with a civil war in Ireland; a 9 ,0 in consequence of that absurd thre at, the Bill was reduced a wretched remnant , and would hav e no effect whatev e l f . ee . preventing the assumption of power by then Roman Po nle .. He (Mr. Knox) wished to take that oppty of thelltqr... il' i ,', dieting an assertion made the other evenint by Member for Dublin made the that leer WAS pe__ fectly icdifferent as to the measures that might be tee eriel this subject. He could only say that the Protestalifeeew Ulster were as angry at the Papal aggression as thee' u e „ t were at the conduct of the Noble Lord, who, with he sieele e ee of a mint rity of that 11. use— (A laugh)—held the re e a goverment. He hoped that Ireland would be included,ir, any measure that might be carried through the breachHot?el` he considered that the omission of Ireland would be a of the Acts of Union. Dr. POWER thought that setae of the speeches fief b 54 been delivered by supporters of the Bill were better stiet: eae e the atmosphere of Exeter-hall than to a calm and 7 3e Y t eer sionate deliberative assembly. The question was l y re ., in the Pope. by the creation of a Roman Catholic biers .7 . he this country, had invaded the supremacy of the Cro . Wn ec , : o f rights of the Established Church, and the indeeenayeuieenee the nation ; and, unless that could be shown, by th e e e reesiself of clear and indisputable facts, he for one would f _ ea . justiff.d in denouncing the present Bill as a persecutiogarand sure—(Hear)—and one that ran counter to the gr e ome nts glorious principles of religious toleration. If the erg, mo ts of the Hon. Member for Warwickshire were tube _ eeo , against the Papal aggression they were still rariitholie ments against the very existence of the strop.Z,e religion in this country. The Pope was charge: ' ,se n otice deavouring to assume territorial jurisdiction in tb's The Noble Lord had taken care in his speech not te i sad a the broad distinction that existed between a e_ foivri Oxford, spiritual jurisdiction ; but the Hon. Member dexterousli seeing the course the argument was taking, between, 3 changed the ground, and drew a distinction , a d i i . spiritual and an ecclesiastical jurisdiction. That such tinction might be made in the case of a Church not g overne d . _,, i d by a hierarchy he admitted; but that the distinc io„ieero"of be drawn in the case of a Church the leadingePri7 v a his • whose discipline was that it should be gev er c g at h o lic kn e w erarchy, he utterly denied. Every Roman . ..s n, ne and believed that the Pope had no civil jurisdivictiitohstsciding or auth rity within this realm, and yet, °t Catholic igen hers of Parliament to that effect, they the oath or declaration taken by all Roman d t h a t thei tha t the held a divided allegiance. He was not awaehurch bed supremacy of the Crown over the Protestaat. 0.. ,, b i t bad ever been questioned by Roman Catholics, tn "e o f the been denied by some of the bishops and illar t i l e ear, hear.) clergy and laity of the Established Church.-- to ot of th e A hierarchy was essential to the proper delel(l);ierarchy hsd Catholic Church ; the appointment of that „ o f s uch sr not been exercised by the Crown ; and the ripe Catholic the pointment rested in the recognised head of , _ ;e ided s Church, to whom the membe•s of that Churen..e t ' hey pre ready obedience. If, then, by passing this Bill, their ecclesiase were to vented the Roman Catholics from perfecting dtoleratioo, tical organisation, what became of their boaete _wined? and of the freedom of conscience they so loudly er a ' ae sg Even supposing the act of the Pope to have been he s teal gression, could it for a moment be supposed the have endeavoured to support that aggression Hon. Member for the West Riding had stated th t 1 " tw o °thee naval force of the Pope consisted of a gunbrig n__ was sr vessels of war; they knew, too, that his Hob t e o "e suppo sst this moment supported by foreign bayonets ; an o ut ni l therefore, that he would have attempted to lorry. iron, measures by force was a perfect absurdity. The Nob e l,: to oe , ber for Bath (Lord Ashley) had intimated that, on _ l ie _ s uci casion, three great Catholic powers, France, S,l 3 ' " e e o uld Austria, gave their aid to the Pope, but that ti es t ot assist him in any designs upon this ccuntry.was a n . he Noble could only present itself to the romantic mind of ' pot hole; Lord. If the measure of the Pope had rendered tha hs ' y were clergy of this country more independent than t .0. sewe d before of the Queen and the Government, if it bed I,"e ion e, by faorc!,.?e ;rob; with the allegiance they owed to the Sovereign of %l i ghts ther _ i r s e e ed or had dimini-hed the revenues, or interfered with tno might of the Established Church; then, he admitted, have been some cause for alarm ; but none of those reeeee he reh been produced. The bishops and clergy of the Catholle_etiegle in Ireland had at an early period maintained a long ee e ' s iog with the Pontiff with regard to the canon e r, or iget to the observance of Easter, and had openly to levy money in that country; and he believed it w e es itf, e a denied e„ t hat resistance which formed the pretext to. a Roman reeendet Englishman by birth, for handing Ireland over to the tender t he mercies of Henry 11. He might observe, also, tbatee'Nete. earlier days of the United States, when the Puritan. T oo of England persecuted the Episcopalians, and the Qer to the Pennsylvania persecuted the Presbyterians, they fie u os t to Roman Catholic colony of Maryland, which was the f i r st proclaim the great principle of religious toleration.-- Voreited How was it that there was such apathy now in the. c oati te States upon the subject, which created so much ext e d n here? They had their archbishops and bishops, A lO 01 118 tinual additions were made to the number; an d t o not heard of no excitement there. But then they v' , e allY shackled with an established church, which was Pe r P e . the trembling for its existence, and at every reform rasi:red cry of " The Church in danger !" If it was inchde n f )e . the its garment was rent, it was torn not so l'' / 0 Roman Catholics as by those within its own Pe e i i t his truth, but for " Puseyistn," we should not have h e r the " Comedy of Errors" enacted in Downing-street, net comedy of " Much Ado about Nothing " uP e e o many plattorms —( A laugh.) Some gentlemen w' the taken part in this debate, seemed nut to be aware thi s tholic doctrine was immutable, but that the discipline B re nt would be required in a country like this would be d'ieeer,) from that required in such a country as Ch ina.—( Hear, se t ee It was surprising that the Noble Lord at the head e; a we Government, who had read history so w ell, had not er se e from it this conclusion, that penal laws w ere not the iiiitilbild by which an obnoxious religion could be checked. feeei been tried in Ireland for three centuries and failed. leee. Bill would not effect in this country the object inters 0 As regarded Scotland, it was palpable injustice, drawit r elt it did, a distinction between the Protestant Episcopa l q . 06 and the Roman Catholic Church, both of which stood ' a 'es , same relation to the dominant Church there. The co l ens it was said, were not included in the Bill, because the Cl ue did ecclesiastical supremacy did not extend to the cola direction it extend to Scotland ?—(Hear.) But in every d! re „ the the Bill involved difficulties. In Ireland it was recall;7' sot Catholic Associatian into existence. If the House f ; , ,i l i tr, e • wish to make Ireland the " difficulty" of every Mffl - 4 1 0,0w tion, and to keep there a standing array of at lea s ' 0 the men, they should reject a Bill so fraught with clinger peace and tranquillity and best interests of the countrYtdoese The moment the Hon. Member sat down, at least $ gentlemen rose to address the House. The SPEAKER called upon the C Mr. HENRY DRUMMOND, who proceeded to say he could not consent to confine the scope of thie e el l '' c t i e rese l to all the narrow limits to which the Honourable,„"eaurate. mond's) opinion was, that the question the who had just sat down would restrict it. His (ee l. ' had to House 0003 0 discuss was nothing short of this, whether the cioe the Catholics should remain a tolerated sect h ul e j t eer t l ' e l spiritual dominion of the Queen, or w" s piri° 1 Queen should be a licensed heritic under the ee er.' s Parliament had to settle whether they dominion of the Pope.—(Loud cries: of " Ileahave Joe, dominion ..-d third of the population of this kingdonet _ , ov ero_e , pretext of " religious developments." to n e m !. (We l t by a law unknown t• the two remaining th ir e d super l !, hear)—a law which was considered paramount: couo tr Por to the law, common or statute, that governed the t debt t he (Hear, bear.) Nor would this night, or this _. fo r t , . this Bili, or a hundred such, settle the oueetvileo"nee not r le . ; Pope bad raised a storm in this country that /Bear, he be quiet again in the lifetime of any present. e pope, erfuie.t, Now, before coming to the main body of the wai ( nl l ti l ise r thtu . hi ll reesr r u u t M hho l lel superiorh I l ad d do pecially those " philosophers" who affected n e ihet 'fig ° t he :b t :e b b e e n e ua u st p i s d u a t l l tl i h k i n e e a t t n h o ba e o s g f a t r y o o iti o art:war . :si ct e vi e b t e ° h i b u e : sro l ! ci gi t rne t l ab d a g i s P; l : ie fi: P o :, dog ? (Laughter.) What signifies to Protestant, take th e i r or ow n Protestantcou course."— e Hear, , r: eh P at. ii n. t s d o l ea so n ; t t vr ia d ;D I ! that these an d laughter). Stand aloof from it al t ) - It We e a • ' or years ago; they condescended from that House specially giving " philosophers" did not tef three from their height, and they did meddle w"„ whY t heY oth tee n : jil t° , tr i o j ul , pope, tbat I " r i l ere• serted a clause which justly offended the a lter s en t ee e * they would not have the Pope send an " e ' lea' i Why, the Pon i an .. ae ; 3 9, _ j' Vi t • e ' - "teed of seieding piece of himself-0 Hear, hear,' and a laugbtreo e d to 1., e ll corpx-is.—(Hear, hear.) But we were ilidilosoPhere l e to gentleman for showing us the value of " Phil the V er g lee st L sublunary matters; and whoever had tea we re te e ,eir. fit to might know that of all men , th eTiear. ) tie tto guide us oil such an occasion—( nea r ' w tlee. o lio Drummond) wished to warn the House he olooe (At did implicitly upon anything asserted by „a R re I le e ele 011 Member. (Laughter, and a cry of a bit more esep did not say that the Hon. Member would be any thing % ea r.) of wilfully deceiving the House, or saYin e g er. ,e(flet t ween as a reo not believe to be true, than any other Men e , 'elineretieee Throb. But still when a question arose as to the ona flooe ser en the Court of Rome and the See of Reen re eie eifeen'e a t for Member asserted one thing, another lion c t g e ' r eor Dublin other. He had applied to the Hon. MerngenlbBr ibrevidenee information, when up started the Be e n . jo g tO that witness with his particular explanation. On roof e r food lie Court of given by Dr. M'Hals on that subject, %lee ohst, man CA" to say, that " the doctrines and rill: c i ',., of t Roman art of tholic Church, which distinguished be the Rome were not the doctrines or princiP ` tow n the see oe f out and the Church of Rome. eeerrnd caballing, Wlens .. might be the scone ot' s- - 3 of the Roman C 5 th e affecting, at the same time,the decrees _ . wieent are .,,n t eL i t lie Church." How, after tbat, could e ler_ uriee the nurse what he had? It was alleged that for c fe._ begged to . _ etit of Rome had undergone no change ; rut lau cil L g ed lveir a , from those who asserted that, for it ba d ose of gi`:; ir 'Agb, every century, and always for the P ur i, ' her ; , , ind eet " 'ect. creased power to the priests. The philosoP __ . ee le this; sisterub) of say, " We ought to have nothing to do e w i l ole a afro' They might be answered in the way in w' meas ures eln' te e Bonaparte addressed the senate when sorae ge had B aia , 1 , Frolic' in g religion were being brought forW erd ee t y of te°. they Court 0 ... Catholic religion was that of the rneJ ° " e a n ano de would nation ; and if they abandoned so powertie __ ve w ho 0 0 .4 would be at the mercy of the first impious lot' w hat w s , wish to convulse France. Now that wo7taite ineasu.rei inevitably take place in Ireland if they did 13 a id, indeed, tn., to prevent such a state of things. 11 vie s t l ' ajo y i r what ariel the Pope had no army. Be should like to eta.. . e (l-leer , f l o e the l'ope had ever had for the last 1,80 0 y ? ee me d yet be bad laughter.) Where was his great arneY le one for centuriesos contrived to do as reto h mischief in e.ureh laughter) tee any other gentleman ever did.—(llear, an ha d e ver cello still, however, had all the arms by which he hanged; vi e l se the mischief; and all his designs still ne owe r of , England had thrown away her arms, and hid no p ope It W e l sistance. It is asked, Where is the Wade . (le s ..ct , doe stem. How came i e loud for the benefit of au hierarchical sy d'nal? It we e - 1 0 however, that the Pope seat a car i o f tI . _ since we had any _, tDo said that it was only a spiritual and conscientious 11., th eo, time, fortunately fur us, _ (Laughter.) To alined:se, sort of gently amongst us. 1 ' t he le ' persons was he ld )) i oe a King of France, resse, e ies , l i i t gli t would inwbheicel only that necessaryc_ss ot t.. 0. of the Popes to. a cardinal of the name of D u i OS the case of a dissolut , tura 1 county and was a reputeu nit. ex po who resided in that co , refer to a brief letter, fr . o ,, n t , f ,, , ne e to 1 „ d The Pope wrote to the King of r l' a pass fib's the king ono w ho Ole effect that he could not send away a cardinal, . eet h i of one of the Bourbons, but whom it was proposed to oes • to the law, and that it was not cousietene 7 5a eree perior zeal which he ought to have for the maintain ing we e , -thiruor to establish here. Such was the law which one ,_ tea r, fe j persons and things. Such was the law which th' , Oft he peop'e asked to maintain, and that more for prien7,,,e b a d laym en. —(No.) The question with the Court of owie ee eal been always that of priest and layman. Once th e eY, to th effe mem bers of the Church, ey were no longer s ubjee w leo Ol e o ther power—they were independent of the Kingl io Wl * dawned his eternal salvation if he interfered Wl'e girl eithl Th e h e th us take