The Sun. — London, England, 1851-08-05 00:00:00

rtiro WiOitto SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS DAY.) THE SUN, the constituencies of certain Irish boroughs had been reduced to 8,000, and considering the unequal and unsatisfactory state of the representation in that country, he will include Ireland in his new Reform Bill; sEcondly, whether he, will consent, early next session, to appoint a Commission to inquire into the state of the statute law in Ireland, with the view to its amendment and consolidation; and, thirdly, whether he had any objection to grant copies of any letter which had been written by the Lord Chancellor, the Lord Chief Justice, and the Attorney-General for Ireland in reference to the unsatisfactory state of the law in Ireland? SUNDAY IN THE CRYSTAL PALACE. HOUSE OF LORDS. Tho LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool asok at Five o'clock. CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was read a second time. PETTY SESSIONS (IRE L AND) BILL. This Bill was read a second time. SUMMAR Y JURISDICTION ( IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was read a second time.. CHUR CH BUILDI'N BILLG ACTS AMENDMENT On the motion of the Earl of CARLISLE, the Com mons' amendments to this Bill were agreed to. COLLEC TION OF FINES (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion of . the Earl of CARLISLE, this Bill Was read a second time. CANTER BURY ASSOCIATION BILL. On the m otion of the Duke of NE 4CASTLE, this B ill was read a third time and passed. GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH (No. 2 A) BILL. T he House went into Committee on this Bill. The Duke of NEWCASTLE moved a clause, giving additional powers to the Board of Health. The Earl of CARLISLE d id not ob j ect to the p he rin ciple of the proposition of the Nob le Duke, but trusted that, to secure the passing of the Bill, his Noble Friend would abstain from urging his a mendment. After a few words from the Earl of SHAFTES BURY, The Duke of NEWCASTLE considered that if the'' present organization of the Board of Health was unsa tisfactory they ought to be abolished, but if they were continued they ought to have additional power. Lord BEAUMONT said that the amendment proposed to give to that very touchy body, the Board of Health, powers of violating, an Act of Parliament. He thought that after what took place last night they ought to keep a sharp look-out on the Board of Health. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY defended the Board of Health. Lord BEAUMONT explained. The amendment was negatived without a division, and the Bill passed through Committee. VATE BILLS. On the motion of Lord REDESDALE, several private Bills were forwarded a stage. Messengers from the House of Commons brought up several Bills. Lord REDESDALE gave notice that on another occasion he should move ate a that it be an addition to the standing orders, that no priv Bill should be for the future read a second time after the 7th of J RESS uIy ED DIS. EMIGRATION ADVANCES (DIST TRI CTS OF SCOTLAND) BILL. The Earl of MINTO moved that this Bill should be committed. Lord MONTEAGLE opposed the Bill on the g that round it w ould open he door to jobbing. Earl GREY p co nsidered that the second clause of the Bill completely met all the objections of the Noble Lord. After a few words from Earl MINTO, The House resolved itself into Committee. The Bid then passed through Committee. NEW ZEALAND SETTLEMENTS BILL. This Bill passed through Committee. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION ACT Col. SIBTHORP wished to ask the Government if .t was true or not that the Sabbath had been desecrated in the Crystal Palace, by allowing parties to remove articles from that building for the purpose of copying them? Mr. C. LEWIS said no articles had been removed from the Crystal Palace on Sundays. Colonel SIBTHORP asked if parties were not allowed to enter the building on Sundays, for the purpose of making sketches? Mr. C. LEWIS could not answer that question. He had nothing to do with the committee of management. PUBLIC BUSINESS. Lord J. RUSSELL appealed to Hon. Members, who had notices cf motion on the paper, to postpone their motions until the Committee on the Patent-law Amend ment Bill had been disposed of. Unless they did so, ho was afraid there could be no chance of passing the Bill this session. Mr. MUNTZ said he was exactly in the same posi tion as the Hon. and Gallant Colonel, for he also bad a motion on the paper. He should be sorry to detain the House with the motion, but ho had other people's in terests to consult besides his own. Nothing was more important than a Bill on the patent laws, but still his motion had been put off from time to time without any fault of his own. Lord PALMERSTON observed, that the Gallant Colonel must be aware that a motion for a Committee at the present state of the session, was not likely to be at tended with any satisfactory result. Mr. bIUNTZ said, if the Government would guaran tee him a Committee next session, the subject would be at an end. Lord DUDLEY STUART rose, and was met by a cry of " Order." He then moved that the House do now adjourn, and said he thought it extremely hard on independent Members for the Government to call upon them to put off their motions. Mr. SPOONER considered that no practical good would arise from the motion of the Gallant Colonel, while if he pressed it, great practical harm might be oc casioned, as it would prevent a most useful Bill passing. Sir B. HALL said, seeing Colonel Salwey's motion on the paper, concerning the Military Knights of Wind sor, he had come down to the House to take a part in it, and he and other Members would be put to considerable inconvenience if it did not come on. The motion had appeared on the paper during the greater part of last and during the whole of the present session, and yet the Gallant Colonel had never been successful in bringing it under the attention of the House. Lard J. RUSSELL said the only ground the Govern ment bad for proceeding with the Bill respecting patents, was that of public interest. He could not see how the Government could derive any particular advantage from a Bill on this subject.—(Hear.) Colonel SIBTHORP supposed the Noble Lord also appealed to him to postpone his motion with regard to the case of a female (Ann Hicks) who, in his opinion, had been most grossly treated by the First Commisioners of the Woods and Forests, and other Members of the Government. If they possessed a giant's strength they surely out not to use it as a giant against a defenceless creature. But she unfortunately was not the only person who bad been badly treated there were five or six other respectable individuals who had held stations in the Park fifteen or eighteen years, and had been unmercifully ejected; and all to suit the foreigners and the Crystal Palace.—(A laugh.) He would not put cif his motion either for the Noble Lord at the head of the Treasury or any other Mem bers of the Government batch. Mr. ROCHE considered that, owing to the growing business of the empire, something ought to be done next session to classify all the business before the House. Mr. URQUHART asked Viscount Palmerston if he would lay on the table of the House all correspondence which bears upon advice given to the Ottoman Govern ment with reference to the internal government of that empire? Lord PALMERSTON said it must be evident that no such communications as those alluded could have been dispatched or received except on the understanding of perfect confidence, and therefore he could not consent to produce the correspondence. After a few words from Mr. MUNTZ, Lord 1). STUART withdrew his motion for adjourn ment. • MILITARY KNIGHTS OF WINDSOR. Colonel SALWEY then proceeded with his motion for a:Select Committee, to inquire into the case and claims of " the Military Knights of Windsor," as set forth and referred to in their two petitions presented to this House upon the 7th day of August, 1346, and 23d day of February, 1847, and which are further set forth and referred to in the petition of the 20th April, 1849, by several electors, tax and rate-payers of the borough of New Windsor. (LEFT SPEAKING.) MARKET IN TELLIGEN CE. (From the London New Price Current, Aug. 5.) SUGAR —Today there was more disposition on the part of refiners and grocers to operate in West lodic Sugar; a good business was concluded, and the rates obtained were equal to those of Friday; merchants are also less disposed to rcaliz% The purchases are 756 hhds, &c., including at auction 170 hhds Bar badoes, which went at 398 to 408 6d for flue yellow, and at 35s 61 to 38s 64 for low to good; 20 hhds Deme rara, good brown 32s 6d; 7 hhds 84 tierces 130 barrels Trinidad, good mid yellow 36s to 368 6d, ord 33s 61 to 34d; 26 barrels St. Kitts mid yellow 35s per cwt. The quantity on offer of both colonial and foreign Sugar is less than last week. REFINED.—To-day there was a reluctance on the part of home dealers to operate in Refined goods, and there is mores desire to sell; the value of low to fine grocery Lumps is 46s to 49s per cwt, and supply is rather better than last week. Tho market has a dull aspect fur Crushed Sugars, and rates incline downwards. MAURITIUS.—This afternoon there was no public sale of Mauritius Sugar; privately rather more business was concluded at full terms for all sorts. LEAST INDIA.—This afternoon Bengal Sugar was rather more in demand, and at auction 1,479 bags went at full rates good and fine white Benares 40 s to 41 s 6 d , low and mid 38s to 39s 6d, damp 37s to 41s, and good soft yellow 35s 6d to 36s 6d per cwt. Madras is in steady demand, but holders were compelled to accept low rates for soft quality ; vt auctidn -137 bags sold at 26s 61 to 283 for brown, and at 29s to 31s 6LI for ord and mid yellow. FOREIGN.—To-day there was a fair demand for Fo reign Sugar for exportation and refining under bond; the rates paid are equal to those of last week, at which there are not generally sellers of floating cargoes. None was offered at public sale to-day. MOLASSES.—On the part of holders a desire is evinced to sell, although stocks remain less than last year, and deliveries are rather larger. West India of low to fine quality can be obtained at 12s 6d to 15s 6d, Porto Rico and Cuba 13s 6d to 14s, Bengal and Mauritius 11. 61 to 12s per cwt. For Honey the rates paid are from 3Us to 503 for low to fine. Cccoa.—On the part of importers of West India a reluctance is evinced to sell at lower rates. The private operations have been small, and none has been offered at auction. We quote low to middling red Trinidad at 403 to 435, good to fine 44s to 505, grey 363 to 40s, and Grenada from 333 to 403. In Foreign purchases have been upon a small scale, and there are sellers of Bahia and Para at 26s to 275, and Guayaquill at 29s to 30s per cwt. COFFEE..—To day Native Ceylon Coffee was in active request, and prices further improved; sales of good and real good ord were made privately at 403 to 403 6d. The supply remains limited of Plantation, and several parcels were disposed of by private contract at is to 2s per cwt advance on previous terms ; at auc tion 145 casks 21 bags were, however, only in part dis posed of, owing to the stiff rates demanded, mid and good mid realized 53s to 58s, low mid 50a to 525 8 7 fine ord 44s to 465, pea berry 60s to 61s, and triage 40s to 435. Of Costa Rica 300 bags realized 43a to 44s for good ord; these are rather higher prices. Jamaica went rather dearer, 50 casks selling, good at 65s to 70s, mid 57s to 60s, good to fine fine ord 44s 6d to 50s per cwt. TEA.—Public sales will take place on Tuesday next, and already 15,000 packages are declared. In Congou transactions have been upon a small scale, and the mar ket being well supplied prices have a downward ten dency; there are sellers of low and good ord at 10d to 101 d, medium to rather strong blackish leaf at lld to le, and superior sorts Is Oid to is 6d per lb, but sorts above Is are least in demand, an impression exists that lower rates will prevail on account of an increased stock. In Oolong little has been done, and a desire is evinced to sell at is to is 4d, and superior is 5d to is 7d. Green has been operated in with reluctance, and rates are still on the decline for good and fine, of which the supply chiefly consists, but low and medium suatain the previous cur rency. In Scented and Pekoe sorts the limited trans actions have been at rather lower terms. RICE.—To-day there was E 0 public sale of East India Rice, and privately little was done, although rather lower rates were taken. Of Arrow Root 727 tins and 9 barrels at auction in part sold at 4i to lid for St. Vin cents, and two lots lid per lb. SPICES.—To-day the public sales of 270 packages Ja maica Ginger went off flatly, and at prices in favour of buyers, a part only selling at 72s to 97s for mid and good, and other sorts at 495 to 70s per cwt. SPIRITS.—East India Rum has been in good demand at Is 3ief to is 4d per gallon proof, and there are not free sellers. Several transactions have taken place in Leeward Island 'at Is 5d to is 63, and the market is firm. Demerara met With greater attention, and tho purchases are 300 hhds at is 10d to 2s 3d for 23 to 4U per cent over proof. A good business has been concluded in Jamaica for home consumption and shipping, and on the part of merchants there is more confidence. The rates obtained for fine and superior sorts 35 to 38 over 33 2d to rather lower rates are 30 to 34 over 2s 8d to 3s inferior 2s 3d to 2s 7d. In the vintage of 1850' 4d, good middling and good ' Brandy purchases have been upon a small scale, and 41 5d to 4s 7d, _ B4B a se re i.lin t g ak a e t n 4 . i 4 C d og to na 4 c s , best brands of 6d, 1849 ditto ct7ta)au,,t,laioolwnd.aatna,B , 13:nrii5Ldid l ,.. ht 2 so 0.4 a s d add l a t etd t 0 0 . 4 3 :141 to an d ss ß , ooludredresasux4id 2s s o 2 51 St i lt is yet operated in with l a i fo G r en ex ev p s or s t a a e t s 2 a s re 6d ;i ld lower a 7rfittsects laireadlrikaecidrufoiro. 1 46 14 tg 31 Per 101194. LONDON, INDIGO.—To - day a public sale of 24 chests Manilla Indigo went at firm rates, and realised 9d to 2a for very ord and common qualities. SALTPETRE.—The amount of business concluded in Calcutta has been upon a small scale for all purposes, and rates are yet on the decline, low to fine selling at 25s to 28s 6d per cwt. Stock is 1,300 tons less than in the previous year. British refined met a slow sale, at 29s to 29s 6d. In Nitrate of Soda little has been done, and 13s 9d to 143 per cwt is the value. COCHINEAL—This afternoon the public sale of Cochi neal attracted little attention, and of 215 bags offered, a part only sold at barely former rates. Honduras silvers low to fine went at 3s to 3s Bd, black 3s ld to 4s 9d, Teneriffe 3s 4d to 3s Ild. Of Lao Dye 135 chests ware nearly all sold at full terms; fair Native marks went a) 9d to Sid, and mid to good factory is 3d to is 9d. Taei,ow.—There is still a firm mar ket for Russian on the spot, and good business is doing; fine yellow Candle realize 37s 9d to 383 per cwt, and some parties will not sell at these terms. Many contracts have been entered into for delivery, and the rates paid are 39a to 39a 6d for last three months of the year. Home melted met with a free sale, and cannot be obtained under 37s net cash, although supply is plentiful. Other kinds are in greater request, and prices are firm, with only a limited quantity on offer. At auction 630 casks Australian were chiefly sold; Beef 36s to 36s 9d; Sheep 34s 3d to 37s 6d ; and 360 pkgs South American 36s to 37s 6n for mid to fine. Of Colonial and Foreign stock is 9,000 casks more than last year ; deliveries exceed those of that period, and prices aro higher by only is to 2s per cwt. For auction 700 casks, &c. ; are declared. OlLS.—There is a good business doing in pale Seal Oil ; holders have confidence, and obiain 351. to 361 per tun, Other sorts remain in small supply, and the parcels sold were at 321 to 341. In Cod little has been done, and 361 to 371 is the present value. Southern has been in greater request, and prices keep on the advance. A: auction 40 tuns were sold at 321 lOs to 331 for mid and good quality. Sperm met with greater attention, and realised better prices. At auction 39 tuns colonial sold at 841 to 861 ss. Heath:natter realised 901 to 921, and is in small supply. Colonial Nut is still much wanted; the rates paid are 32s to 34s for Cochin, 31a 6d to 33a for Ceylon, and Sydney 28a 6d to 30s. Linseed Oil has been in brisk request both for home trade `purposes and shipping; prices have also improved to 32s 9d to 333: there is a decreased supply with a fair consumption. Several contracts have been concluded for delivery at 32s to 32s 3d. Rapeseed Oil is less in request, and more desire is evinced to sell, pale at 34s 6d, brown 36s 6d. T he authoritie3, having in vain wed every argument, tc I persuade them, at last bad seventy-four of them a crested and shipped off to the fort of Favignana, N thile a sufficient number of journeymen from the c .ou,ntry were pressed into the service of the bakers of the capital. THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) PALACE OF WESTMINSTER, LORD GREAT CHAMBERLAIN'S-OFFICE, Auo. 4, 1851. All Peeresses, on announcing their intention of being present on the occasiun of the prorogation of Parliament, will have places reserved fur theca in the House of Lords, if the announcement be made, at this office, be fore five o'clock on Thursday, the 7th instant. Peers' eldest suns will have tickets for the Peers' eldest sons' box forwarded to them, upon a written or personal application at the office. No strangers can be admitted except by a ticket from the Lord Great Chamberlain's Office. The doors will be opened at twelve o'clock. WILLOUGHBY DE ERESBY, G.C. CROWN-OFFICE, AUG. 4. MEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT. Barcelona .• ••.... .... Beville.• •• •••• •• •• City of Limerick—Henry Granville Fitzalan Howard, commonly called Earl of Arundel and Surrey, in the room of John O'Connell, Esq., who has accepted the office of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds. The Gazette of this evening contains a notice for the election of a temporal Peer in Ireland, in the room of Charles William, Earl of Charleville, deceased. TUESDAY _ EVENING, AUGUST 5, 1851 COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-(PHIS DAY.) Amsterdam .• •... •• .• 11 16% Gibraltar•• •••••••• •• •• Ditto, three months.. 11 17s\ Le;horn ........ •• •• 30 45 Rotterdam .......... 11 18 Genoa •••—• •• •• 25 40 Antwerp • ••••• •• •• •• •• 25 25 51118 n.. ............. .- Brussels • •• ...... 25 25 Venice................ 11amburgh M.B. 13 8% Naples ...... •....... 41% &Rona.— ........ •• Valermo,peros........ 124 Paris, 3 days'sight ...• 25 5 Messina 124 1 4 Ditto, 3 months .... 25 25 Li5b0n................ 53% Marseilles ............ 25 25 0p0rt0................ 53 80urdeaux......... • . Rio Janeiro FrankfortonMaina.... 119% I3orlin.. • • ......•• Vienna, effec. 50...... 11 60 Trieste, ditt0.......... 11 51 Petorsburgh, 811. Rble.. 37 Madrid •• .. •• ........ LO Cadiz•• •• ............ 60U Buenos Ayres New York, 60 daya'slght Philadelphia . .. • -- PRICES OF BULLION, PEN 01. Foreign Geld in bars.. XI 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin .. 0 0 0 Spaniah Doubloon' .. 0 0 0 Now Dollars •..... 0 4 11 Silver In bars ......•• 0 5 OS IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, August 4. CHANCERY REFORM. The Earl of HARRINGTON moved for certain papers relating to reform in the Court of Chancery. The Noble Earl in the course of his speech contended that the granting of law reform was absolutely necessary, not only for the advantage of the suitors, but as a compensa tion to the landed interest for the repeal of the corn-laws. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE reminded the Noble Earl that according to the rules of that House he could not bring forward his motion without notice. The Earl of HARRINGTON gave notice that he would move for the papers to-morrow. The Duke of RICHMOND complained that a Bill which had been sent down to the House of Commons for doing away with a sinecure office had not been pro ceeded with, although three mouths had elapsed since it had been sent down. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE explained. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition from Croydon for the preservation of the Crystal Palace. Messengers from the House of Commons brought up numerous Bills, which were respectively read a first time. Earl FORTESCUE presented a petition from Honi ton, praying for the retention of the Crystal Palace. Lord BEAUMONT presented several petitions from Yorkshire with a similar prayer. The Earl of MALMESBURY presented several petitions with a similar prayer, but he thought that if any agreement had been entered into for its removal it ought to be removed. He saw nothing in the architec tural character of it to call for its retention, and he could not see what interest persons residing in the country could have in its retention. Also a petition from Worthing praying that that town might not be in cluded in the Health of Towns Bill. He thought it would be advisable that the town of Worthing should be excluded from the operation of the Health of Towns Bill. _ _ _ The Earl of CARLISLE presented a petition from certain inhabitants of Worthing, stating that the drainage was most defective, that the smells and odours lett upon the beach in consequence of the defective drainage were most offensive, and praying that Worthing might be in cluded in the Bill. The Earl of MALMESBURY said that the majority of the rate-payers were against the Health of Towns Bill. After a few words from the Earl of SHAFTESBURY and Lord FOLEY, Lord BE AUMONT said ho was sorry to see that the Board of Health was adopting a course which rendered them generally unpopular. They ought to come forward with a general Bill instead of adopting a bit-by-bit legis lation. The Earl of CARLISLE explained. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said that it was no fault of the Board of Health that the system had been adopted of which the Noble Lord complained. After some further conversation, The Earl of HARROW BY presented a petition from Blackburn against the Bill, and praying that it might be referred to the Standing Orders Committee. GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH (No. 2 A) BILL. On the motion for the second reading of this Bill, The Marquis of SALISBURY presented a petition from Hertford, praying to be exempted from the opera tion of the Bill. The Noble Marquis then proceeded to oppose the Bill on general grounds, and particularly with reference to its effect on the town of Hertford. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY protested against the hasty manner in which the Bill had been forced upon towns the populations of which were altogether opposed to its application to themselves. In one case, both the representatives of a town had voted against it, and yet that very town was included in a Bill thus sent up to their Lordships within three days of its prorogation. The Earl of WALDEGRAVE rose to present peti tions from Bristol and Hull against the Bill, but was in formed that he could not do so consistently with the rules of the House. The Noble Earl then proceeded to oppose the Bill. Lord REDESDALE said it would be gratifying to the towns which were disinclined to receive the Bill, if the Board of Health would not proceed further with the Bill this session. At this late period it would be im possible to give it due consideration, and at all events all the towns which objected to it ought to be excluded from its operation. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY defended the applica tion of the Bill to Hertford. There was no town which had greater need of sanitary reform. Earl POWIS urged the postponement of the Bill till next session. The Earl of CARLISLE admitted that there was some force in the argument witk reference to the lateness of the period, and was, therefore, inclined to recommend, though with some reluctance, the exemption of Hert ford and Worthing from the operation of the Bill. But there could be no objection to proceeding with the Bill, if its operation were confined to those towns which did not object to it. After some conversation, The Earl of SHAF TESBURY consented to the course proposed, and The Bill was read a second time. EMIGRATION ADVANCES (DISTRESSED DIS TRICTS, SCOTLAN D) BILL. Earl MINTO moved the second reading of this Bill. The Duke of NEWCASTLE objected to the Bill, because it was intended to divert funds raised last year by the Government, under the sanction of an Act of Parliament, for the purpose of promoting the drainage of lauds in England and Ireland. Atter some further conversation, Tho Bill was read a second time. Lord MON TEAGLE said he wished to ask the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies whether any in struction bad been seat out to the Governor of the Cape of Good Hope in respect to the constitution of that colony, subsequent to the papers already before the House? Earl GREY was understood to say that he was in daily expectation of receiving a mail from the Cape of Good Hope, and he thought that it would be extremely inconvenient that he should then make a statement with respect to papers which he was not prepared to lay be fore the House. METROPOLITAN INTERMENT BILL. The Earl of CARLISLE having moved the second reading of this Bill, The Bishop of LONDON said he regretted that some comprehensive measure had not been introduced for the prevention of intramural interment, but he thought that no Bill ought to be adopted for the abolishing that indecent practice without giving compensation to the parties interested in the existing church yards. He was sure that their Lordships had no desire to deprive the parochial clergy of the small pittance which they received in the shape of burial fees, and which formed in many instances their only livelihood, without affording them some substitute for that loss. He should take that opportunity of returning his thanks, and the thanks of the clergy over whom he presided, to the Noble Earl opposite (the Earl of Shaftesbury) for his great efforts in carrying out sanitary improvements. He had long believed—and the experience of every year had only tended to confirm him in the impression —that although they might build churches and establish schools, they would do little good in the great towns unless they could remove a considerable portion of the evils which had sunk the labouring classes of this coun try into the lowest depths of degradation, and which had prevented them from obtaining access to the sources of spiritual life and consolation. He believed that one of the most important objects that could engage the attention of a Christian Legislature was the amelioration of the physical condition of their poorer brethren, by the improvement of their dwellings, and other measures for extending their domestic enjoyments. Earl GREY said, that he cordially concurred with the Right Rev. Prelate in the tribute to the Noble Earl opposite for his services in the cause of sanitary reform; and he also concurred with him in regretting that some effectual measure had not been adopted at an earlier period for the prevention of intramural interment; but he hoped that their Lordships would withhold their opi nion as to the conduct of the Government in the matter until the papers with respect to it should have been laid before the House. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said he feared that the Bill would not effectually insure the objects for which it had been framed. He wished to take that opportunity of protesting against a statement which had been made upon the subject in another place by a member of the Government. It had been said that the Board of Health had asked for a sum of money, with a view to promote extramural interment; but he could assure their Lord ships that that Board had not only not made any such request, but that they had entirely disapproved of the means by which it had been proposed that money should be raised for the purpose. Tho Government themselves pleasing a b l e portion a s k tof their p e - m h a e d n t t s h f o o u r g t h h t e p a r d o o p p e t r i o t n o e o n f t r a u s s y t s t t o e h e o f B c o x a r t d r a t m h u e r a a r l r i a n n t ge- e r . ment, and he could assure their Lor d shi p s that the Bo time in inquiring into facts of the most revolting f m or e m m , be i r n s ofsp etnhdaitnZaardv ehrayd consh ad n d e o r cha racter, and in collecting evidence which, although it might seldom be read by the public, could never be for gotten by those who had heard it. The Board had cer tainly thought that, under these circumstances, the Go vernment would have given them an honest and con scientious support, and would have helped to extricate them from difficulties which were not of their own crea tion, instead of contributing to accumulate upon them public odium. The Earl of CARLISLE said he could not go into the consideration of what had taken place in the other House, not knowing the circumstances under which any observations might have been made; but he could cer tainly say no intentionally disrespectful remark towards his Noble Friend had been used by him. Indeed it would be impossible to watch the course of the public life of his Noble Friend, and not acknowledge how much was due to his exertions in the cause of sanitary reform; and whatever were the result of the present Bill, he (the Earl of Carlisle) could not forget what benefit his Noble Friend and his colleagues had conferred on the cause of the public health.—(Hear, hear.) Very few could be aware of the gsrtealatcldiftuctoultoveies which i exishteedgae way often disposed to urge upon Government to take up en tain measures, and then when difficulties started up the public were too often apt to become not only lukewarm in their support, but even opponents to the Government. As to the present measure, notwithstanding all the diffi culties which surrounded it, the advantages in the end would be found so great that it would ultimately be suc ceestul. The Earl of HARROWBY said it did not appear to the House what were the advantages to be derived from that Bill. It would put the Board of Health forward as a trading company, but the question remained to be solved, Ras it desirable to put the Board of Health in that position? He thought they should have a more distinct statement of the advantages which were expected to flow from that Bill. It did not appear to him that _ _ th e object they had in view would ho gained by that Bill. The Esrl of CARLISLE said the Government thought ,hat by enabling the Board of Health by means of that Bill to purchase two of the cemeteries, they could sooner undertake the closing up of existing graveyards. After a few words from the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, the Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be com mitted. COAL-WHIPPERS (PORT OF LONDON) BILL. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY moved that tho House should go into Committee on this Bill. Lord BEALiVIONT objected to that portion of the present Bill which went to neutralise the operation of the original Act, by which publicans were prevented from paying the parties they employed in kind in their own houses. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY supported the propositions of tho Bill, which passed through Com mittee. AMENDMENT BILL. Lord MONTEAGLE moved the second reading of a Bill which he had introduced to modify, amend, and explain the Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Act. The object of his Bill was to enact as a substantive law the clause which he had proposed on the bringing up of the report. (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly after Twelve o'clock. RIPLEY FREE SCHOOL. Mr. BROTHERTON moved thet all the :standing orders applicable to the Ripley Free School Bill be suspended, and that the said Bill be allowed to proceed forthwith. Sir J. Y. BULLER opposed the motion, as it would be establishing a bad precedent if it were agreed to. It was exceedingly inconvenient that Bills should come down from the Lords at this late period of the session. Mr. BROTHERTON said there was nothing objec tionable in the Bill. and as it would inflict great injury upon the parties if the Bill were delayed till another session, he hoped this indulgence would be granted to them. Sir JAMES GRAHAM thought that as a general rule, when Bills came down too late to admit of their being fairly considered, they ought to be rejected, but in this particular case he would offer no opposition. The motion was then agreed to, and the Bill passed through its various stages. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' amendments to the Charing-cross Bridge Bill and Farmers' Estate Society (Ireland) Bill were con sidered and agreed to. METROPOLIS WATER BILL. Sir JAMES GRAHAM, in moving that the mi nutes of the evidence taken before the Com mittee on the Metropolis Water Bill be printed, at the close of an inquiry ',extending over thirty or forty days, he would just state to the Home how the matter stood. The Committee thoroughly investigated the evidence on the part of the promoters of the Bill. That part of the evidence was now entire. The Committee then pro ceeded to hear the evidence of those who contended for the advantage of the control of some municipal body elected by the popular voice. That portion of the evi dence was also complete. The Committee then heard the evidence of the existing water companies at very con siderable length, but that evidence was not entirely closed. It was the opinion of the Committee — and it was in pursuance of that wish that he made the present motion—that the evidence should be printed, inasmuch as they thought it would be conducive to the formation of public opinion during the recess on the entire subject, and facilitate future legislation. Oa the other hand, if it were the pleasure of the House to call u pon the Committee for an expression of opinion, they did not think themselves in a position to give any opi nion which could be satisfactory to the House. He, therefore, moved that the evidence be printed. The motion was agreed to. PETITION. Colonel SIBTHORP presented a petition from Lin coln against the Episcopal and Capitular E,tates Bill. DUCHY OF LANCASTER_(HICTH PEAK MINING COMPANY) BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. COURT OF CHANCERY AND JUDICIAL COM. MITTEE BILL. The Lords' amendments to this Bill were considered and egmed to. PATENT-LAW AMENDMENT BILL. The House then went into Committee on this Bil On clause 14 being propcsed, Mr. MENTZ ohjectc•d to novelty and utility being made conditions to the granting of a patent. He moved that the word " utility," should be struck out, on the ground that no tribunal could determine the utility of a patent. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the original word used walk " novelty," but " utility" had been intro duced at the suggeation of the Manchester Society of Arts. Sir J. GRAHAM said the objection held to the Bill was that the responsibibility of examining into, and ad vising the Crown to grant patents, was taken from the legal cfficers of the Crowr, and placed in the hands of a body of examiners. He deprecated the practice of bringing forward important legislative enactments at so late a period of the session, when it was impossible to discuss the provisions with any satisfaction. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the responsibi lity would not be shifted from the Attorney or Solicitor- General, who would treat the report of the examiners as helps and au xiliaries to enable them to form & judg ment on matters cf which they were ignorant, owing to their defective scientific knowledge. After a short discussion, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he would have no objection to strike out the word " utility." The ob ject of introducing it into the Bill was that scientific examiners, instead of a jury, might determine the utility of patents to the public. After some er furth observation s , th e H ouse di v id e d, when there sppeared— For striking cut the word " utility" ... 48 Against it —• "• Majority ••• —47 The clause, as amended, was then agreed to. Clauses 15, Di, and 1 7 wer e a g reed to. The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and t h e Ilouso resumed. EPISCOPAL AND CAPITULAR ESTATES MANAGEMENT (No. 2) BILL. The report on this Bill was brought up and agreed to, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to.morow. COUNTY COURTS FURTHER EXTENSION BILL. This Bill was read a third time. Several amendments we ‘ a agreed to, and the Bill then passed. ?,1 1. ; 1141:tkNS BRIBERY COMMISSION BILL . u the consideration of the Lord's amendments on this Bill, Mr. BOUVER IE to this Bill be disa moved that the Lords' amendments the preamble of t to, LI being inconsistent with The motion Was agreed to, and a conference pp pointed. The House then adjourned until Five o'clock. The House res timed at Five o'el k PETITIONS,te poeftiti from a body on Mr. G. F. YOU N G presentwedat o f Chartists, complaining of an employment, and praying the Bons? to adopt the Ch arter. r. 1:10BHOUSE presented a petitio n from a Baptist commun ity io favour of international arbitration Mr. SC EIOLEFIEL.D pre3ented a petition from th for the repeal of the Society of Arts, praying duty on paper. MOULTAN PRIZE MONEY. Sir DE LACY EVANS wished to ask the Secret ary of the Board of C , ntrol when th© Mcultsn prize mone y was likely to be distributed? Mr. WILSON said thnt matter was now under cent& deratt4a4ut it was mixed up with so many complicated questidna , • • was quite unable to form any idea when the distributL, • ; 1, ' rake place. PARJ- 4 - 1 . 1 : ' ' -RY REFORM IN IRE LAND. , ( '.." 11..11-0C t 1 gate noti,.e that to-morrow or en C . 4 c c -,Z. ; ~ .' '., .e,:aitould ask the Noble Lord at the head o f the ; -- 'l ' .. ."- ''' - - , *.following question:—First, whether, Az - ~ --, _.. pet under the ltew..frachito Dili Si•—"" BANKRUP TS. Edward Agar WYne and John Lumsden, builders, East-street, Manchester-square, to surrender Aug. 13, at twelve, and Sept. 10, at eleven, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Stansfeld, official assignee; Barnard, York road, Lambeth. Thomas Marriott, seed merchant, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, Aug. 13 and Sept. 12, at half-past twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Carman, official assignee, Cornhill; Willmott, High-street, Southwark. George Stringer, wholesale Italian warehouseman, Chamber-street, Goodman's-fields, Aug. 13 and Sept. 12, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assignee, Birchin-lane • Fry and Loxley, Cheapside. Edwin Parke Quadling, railway carriage builder, Ips wich, Aug. 13, at one, and Sept. 12, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assignee, Birchin-lane, Cornhill; Chilton, Union-court, Old Broad street. _ __ _ _ ......... George King Matthews, bookbinder, Paternoster row, Aug. 12, at two, and Sept. 12, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assigne, 13irchin lane, Cornhill ; Young and Son, Mark-lane. John Lascombe, miller, Llandulph, Cornwall, Aug. 21 and Sept. 18, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court. liernaman, official assignee, Exeter; Edmonds and Sons, Plymouth; Stogdon, Exeter. INSOLVENT DEBTORS. John Wicks Wood, woollendraper, Deverill-street, Do- ver-road. Georgo Bristow, baker, Clare-street, Clare-market. John Dear, baker, Blackfriars-road. Charles Mokler, cheesemonger, Holywell-street, Shore ditch. Wm. Fermenta, labourer, Salem•gardens, Bayswater. J. Howard, general contractor, Chandos-street, Strand. George Strutt, dealer in building materials, Canterbury place, Walworth. Mary Ann Hancock, lodging-house keeper, St. James's street, Piccadilly. Philip Allworth Carter, foreman to a horse dealer, Lon don-street, Paddington. Benoit Tourniare, equestrian artiste, Vauxhall-walk, Lambeth. Charles Bishop Grey, clerk to a lighterman, Trinity place, Wandsworth-road. Henry Middleton, builder, Upper Ebury-street, Pimlico. Richard Thomas Clement Gray, provision merchant, Bull and Mouth-street, St. Martin's-le-Grand. Henry Burrage, zinc worker, Plumber's-row, City-road. E. Biding, assistant to an hotel keeper, Oxford-street. William Powell account book clasp maker, Wardrobe place, Doctors' commons. Charles E. Pritchett, hosier, Park-street, Camberwell. John Gray, superannuated inspector of police, Guild ford-place, Bugnigge- wells-road. Charles Fleay, house and general agent, Sherborne street, Blunuford-square, Regent's-park. Harold Stanley, attorney-at-law, Gerard• street, Soho. Thomas Emery Aleock, Silk throwster, Macclesfield. James Barton, stone mason, East Moor, Wakefield. John Barker, porter dealer, Birkenhead, Cheshire. John Barber, baker, Portwuod, Cheshire. Thomas Baron, twister in a cotton factory, Blackburn, Lancashire. Thomas Cole, fishmonger, Gloucester. Richard Cleaver, publican, Princethorpe, Warwickshire, Daniel Garrett, carpenter, Liverpool. John Osbaldeston Hayes beer-housekeeper, Salford. Edward Howe, tailor, Chilvers Coton, Warwickshire. Thomas Harris, builder, Nuneaton, Warwickshire. John Arthur goes, commercial traveller, Sheffield. James Monks, dealer in ale, Manchester. Wm. Shepard, tailor, Yrincethorpe, Warwickshire. William Ward, - wheelwright, Rugby, Warwickshire. Thomas Beesley, warehouseman, Preston. William Bick, beer-shop keeper, Devonport. Thomas Davison, jun., caravan builder, Leeds. _ _ John Dean, grocer, Manchester. James Jeffery, turnpike-gate keeper, Pilton, Devonshire. Thomas Smith, carpenter, Hayes, Kent. Tames Wingyett, painter, Plymouth. James Batho, book-keeper, Huddersfield. William Dibb, innkeeper, Wortley, Yorkshiro. Thomas Fearnley, shopkeeper, North Bierley, Yorkshire, Barnabas Dalby, chemist, Wetherby, Yorkshire. George Harriott, stationer, Birmingham. Thomas Bingley, farmer, Leeds. Jos. Mawson, saddler, Bolton-upon-Dearne, Yorkshire. G. L. Williams, builder, Greenwich - road, Greenwich. W. Waterhouse, farmer, Sheepridge, Yorkshire. J. Leaper, saddler, Cawood, Yorkshire. W. Taverner, farmer, Moretonhampstead, Devonshire. BOSNIA. The Osairva - tore Dalmato has advices from Niksik and Montenegro up to the 10th ult. Hostilities are, it would appear, as rife as ever between the Turks of Niksik and the Montenegrins of Povie. A party having been fixed upon for the 7th at Slovie, between the two contending parties, with the view of coming to an amicable arrangement, two Turks, named Mus 80VIK and ANZE, repaired thither, for the purpLse ; the Montenegrins having sent a aid named Juao NESSEVITCII, with ten of his followers, to represent them. But instead of coming to terms, the two par ties fell out, and after some high words, one of the Montenegrins fired at Mussovis. and wounded him ; the latter returned the fire and killed NESSEVITCH. The consequence was that the Montenegrins fell upon the two. Turks, killed there after an obstinate combat, and returned to Povie with the beads of their victims, their arms and horses. The families of the two Turks, afterwards, sent some Christian women to ne gotiate a ransom for the two heads, which were in fact returned and buried with the bodies. TUNIS. The Breslau Gazette, under date of Vienna, 27th inst., says—" The Bey of TUNIS has arrived here. The object of his visit is to offer to the Goverment some concessions in favour of Catholicism, in order to obtain its protection against the English, who have declared in favour of the Ottoman Porte, and have already appeared before Tunis to support their de mands. We doubt not that Austria and Russia will be disposed to support the BEY against the pretensions of England; but the questien is to know by what means the blow will be warded off. This question presents some gravity in another respect. If the English act for the Ottoman Porte against the BEY, it is less from friendship for it than to establish them selves near Egypt, and to wait for the solution of the question of the East, in order to eventually get pos session of that country." It should be remembered that the Breslau Gazette is not the very highest au thority in the world. SICILY. The Official Journal of Sicily gives an account of a strike among the journeymen bakers of Palermo, which goollo4l or 4 tb 6 0-) for * iIiCP:O4 witivi POSTAGE STAMPS. At the instance of Mr. Muntz, the House of Com mons has ordered to be printed a copy of all the corre spondence that has taken place since 1847, between the Lords of the Treasury, the General Post-office, and Mr. Archer and the Commissioners of Inland Revenue, rela tive to Mr. Archer's machine for perforating sheets of postage label stamps. The inconvenience which Mr. Archer proposed to remedy—serious enough to persons of voluminous correspondence, and still more so to a postmaster during the last half-hour for receiving letters —is the trouble occasioned by the present mode of cutting or tearing sheets of postage stamps into single heads. For this purpose he invented a machine, which, it is stated, can be worked by two boys, and by the aid of which stamp sheets may be so minutely indented in the directions of the white lines as to allow the stamp to be instantly detached from the sheet, with out the operation of cutting. The plan, it was argued, would secure the folding of stamp. sheets with out creasing them, while the rough or dental edges given to the stamps would cause them to adhere to the letters much better than when cut by scissors. Mr. Archer, feeling confident in the success of his plan, proposed that his claims for compensation should be contingent upon the unqualified approbation of the public, the Post master-General, and her Majesty's Commissioners of Stamps. The superintending presidents of the inland and London district post-offices thus referred to Mr. Archer's machine, under date the 14th October, 1847: " The machine appears to be a very clever and useful in vention. . . . . We aro thoroughly con vinced that postage-stamps separated by it, having jagged edges, will adhere to letters far better than those cut from the sheet by knives or scissors. . • • • . We submit it is most de sirable that the invention be recommended to the notice of the Commissioners of Stamps." The machine obtained the approval of the Board of Stamps and Taxes, and of the Lords of the Treasury, and after one or two experiments it was found to answer the pur pose for which it was intended. A sum of 2001. was proposed to be given to Mr. Archer as an adequate re muneration for his invention, besides a further sum of 4001. as compensation fur expenses incurred in the con struction of the machine. The inventor was dissatisfied with the arrangement, urging that it was inadequate to defray the mere outlay, end proposed (March 26, 1851) to enter into a contract for perforating, engraving, printing, and gumming postage label sheets for 11. 1.55. a thousand less than was then paid for engraving, print ing, and gumming them. The agreement with Messrs. Bacon and Fetch was to print postage labels at the rate of 6d. a 1,000. Mr. Archer proposed to do so, and to perforate them besides, at 41d. per 1,000. The original printers reduced their charge to scl. per 1,000 in consequence, and a contract . was concluded with Messrs. Bacon and Fetch for five years at that rate. Mr. Archer, on the 30th of May, signified to the Inland Revenue Office, that it was his intention " to appeal to the honour and justice of Parliament for redress with the least possible delay." EPIDEMIOLOGICAL SOCIETY. A monthly meeting of the members of this society, instituted last year for the purpose of investigating the causes and conditions which influence the origin, propa gation, prevention, and treatment of epidemic diseases, was held at the house of the Royal Medical and Chi rurgical Society, 53, Berners-street; Dr. B. Guy Babiug ton in the chair. The proceedings of the previous meet ing having been read and approved, Mr. Tucker, one of the honorary secretaries to the society, proceeded to read a paper by Mr. Grove upon epidemical diseases. Mr. Grove argued that the poisons inducing epidemic, endemic, and infectious diseases must be ranked among the things endowed with life. The faculty of reproduction was a distinctive characteristicof animation as contrasted with mechanism or inanimate matter. It was during the reproductive period of existence, he said, that the most energetic operations of the vital force were manifested, and it was during the reproduction of the poison germs within the body that the force of diseased action called for special attention. Whether they examined an epidemiz or infectious disease of plants, of animals, or of man, it would be found that the essence of the affection was a something which had the power of reproducing its spe cies. Taking this faculty of reproduction as indicative of the existence of a germ, he classed the agents of dis ease among living things, and regarded reproduction as the primary law. To account for epidemics and infec tion upon the chemical basis he held to be impossible, seeing that in no purely chemical process was there any multiplication of the agents, and that, as far as the phy sical forces were concerned, one always increased at the expense of the other, as the heat increased by the che mical change taking place in combustible bodies. The lecture concluded, a conversation arose upon the subject. in which Dr. Silvester, Dr. Snow, Mr. Charles Cochrane, Dr. M‘William, and Mr. Tucker took part. A vote of thanks was then accorded to Mr. Grove for his able paper. In consequence of the lateness of the season, the society adjourned till the mouth of November, when, it was an nounced, Dr. R. Gordon Latham will read a paper upon epidemical diseases in Iceland. The committees of the society will continue their operations during the recess. SEABORNE MAILS. [N signifies that the mails are sent from the General Post-obles by the night—and M by the morning—dispatch.] When made up in I From what When PLACES. General Post-office; port dis- due. London: patched. America (by Brit. pkt.)NAug. 8 .• •• Liverpool Aug. 11 America (by U.S. pkt.) NlAug. 5 .. • • Liverpool .. Aug. 12 America (by U.S. pkt.) 13 Southampt. Aug. 7 Africa (West coast).. N 14th of the month !Plymouth Aug. 3 Alexandria* • • ...... N 19th & 30th of mo.lDover .. Aug. 18 Belgium • • .. • • NiDaily .• Dover .. Daily Brazil .. Ml9th of the month Southampt. Aug. 12 Buenos Ayres • • .. M 9th of the month Southampt. Aug. 12 California(viaChagres)M ld & 17th of month Southampt. Aug. 5 Cape of Good Hope Nil4th of month Plymouth.. Aug. 3 Constantinople * .. •• N 7th 17th 27th of mo Dover .. Aug. 10 Central America .. M2d & 17th of mon. ,Southampt. Aug. 5 Channel Isles • • • • N Mon., Wed., &FrLlSouthampt. Tn. Th.Sa Chin •. M 17th of the month (Southampt. Aug 5 France .. M& N Twice daily .. Dover .- Greece* • • •• •• Nl7thl7th27thef mo !Dover .. Aug. 10 Hamburgh N Tuesday & Friday I London .. Tues. Sat. Holland .• M Wednes. & Satur.' London .. Mms.Thcr Honduras .• . N 17th of the month ;Southampt. Aug. 5 I re l an d „ M & NlTwice daily .. I Holyhead .. Iwieedaily India (via Southamp.) *2oth of the month Southampt. Aug. 23 India (via Marseilles) N 7th& 24th efmonth l Dover At 4. 15 Mediterranean (via Southampton) • • 3~i.20th of the month Southampt. Aug. 23 Mediterranean (via Marseilles) • .• N 7thBz24tk ofmonth Dover .. Aug. 15 . Mexico .• 11112 d of the month.. Southampt. Aug. 5 m a deira .• .• M 9th of the month Southampt. Aug. 12 Malta. f 7th,17th,19th,27th Dover Aug. 10 & 30th of month Naples* •• N sth 15th 25th ofmo Dover .. Aug. 12 Papal States* •• N . I th 15th25th ofmo Dover .. Aug. 13 reithisalar „, • • .. M 7th 17th 27th of me Southampt. Aug. 15 p ew „ 17th of the month Southampt. ,Aug. 5 Tuscany* ,„ N sth 15th 25th of mo Dover .. !Aug. 12 West Indies . • .. 17th of the month Southampt. (Aug. 20 West Indies (except Havanna & Nassau) hi 2d of the month .. Southampt. Aug. 5 12d of the month .. ountries thus mar] ISouthanlipt. lAug. 5 :ed (*) are conveyed by . 0 The mails to those c French packet viA. Maned CALITOBNIA.—MaiIs to are now despatched and d and from Californi lue by every Amer via the United states Ln packet. BLACK WALL REGATTA. The annual regatta, " to commemorate the day on which the first meeting was held at Blackwall for the establishment of that valuable institution, the Free Watermen's and Lightermen's Asylum," came off yes terday at Blackwall, for a new boat and other prices subscribed by the residents of the vicinity. The race was in five heats, with six scullers, well contested, and most numerously attended. FIRST HEAT. J. Jeffries (green) 1 G. Atkins (yellow) 0 J. Corey (light blue) 0 The courso extended from the Folly House to the East India Dock buoy (once round). Green won easily. SECOND HEAT. W. Milton (red) 1 J. Walland (dark blue) 0 W. Walland (pink) 0 A smart heat, but the winner ultimately showed great superiority, as in the previous heat. THIRD HEAT. J. Walland G. Atkins .... J. Corey W. Walland They were all four together for some time, and a smart contest ensued for the right to be placed, ultimately acquired, as is above described, after very plucky work. FOURTH HEAT. J. Jeffries (green) 1 W. Milton (red) 2 J. Walland (dark blue) 0 G. Atkins Yellow jumped off with a slight lead, but the pair beat him, and Green and Red took the shine out of him very soon. The losers were thoroughly tailed. FINAL HEAT. J. Jeffries y (green) 1 W. Milton (red) 0 Red got the start, and kept it as far as the eye could reach; the winner then came scull and scull, and a fine race followed, ending in Jeffries coming in first by a couple of lengths. FRENCH RAILWAY TRAFFIC. The following are the last returns of the gross re ceipts of the principal French Railways : NORTHERN.—From July 23 to July 29: Passengers, 362,5641.; goods, 189,85 4 E; total, 552,418 f. ROIIEN.—From July 20 to July 26: Passengers, 115,2141.; goods, 80.4061.; total, 195,6201. HANRE.—From July 20 to July 26 : Passengers, 42,805 E; goods, 35,099 E; total 77,904 f. ORLEANS.—From July 21 to July 27 : Passengers, 89,010 F. ; goods, 97,6171.; total, 186,627 f. BORDEAUX.—From July 15 to July 21: Passengers, 46,3541.; goods, 42,539 f.; total, 86,693 E VIERZON —From July 21 to July 27 : Passengers, 38,039 E; goods, 38,159 E; total, 76,1981. BOULOGNE.—From July 21 to July 27 : Passengers, 42,4281.; goods, 14,777 f.; total, 57,2051. NANTE9.—From July 19 to July 25 : Passengers, 21,5821.; goods, 12,3851.; total, 33,967 f. STEASBURG.—From July 23 to July 30: Passengers, 110,688 E; goods, 64,582 E; total, 175,2701. BALE.—From July 7 to July 13 ; Passengers, 29,9961.; goods, 19,470 f.; t0ta1,49,4661. MONTEREAIL—From July 16 to July 22: Passengers, 10,029 E; goods, 13,416 f.; total, 23,4451. MARSEILLES.—From July 16 to July 22: Passengers, 54,9301.; goods, 28,883 E; total, 83,813 f. LYONS.—From July 13 to July 19 : Passengers, 223,462 f.; goods, 71,705 E; total, 295,167 f. CHARTREL—From July 14 to July 20; r43:04010) 3 6,6 1 3 Li pa1ii,17,475f.; tat4l•43l9elf. CUSTOMS BILL. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY moved the third reading of this Bill, which was agreed to, and tho Bill then passed. COMMISSIONERS OF RAILWAYS ACT REPEAL BILL. On the motion for the third reading of the above Bill, and after a few words from Lord AIONTEAGLE, Lord REDESDALE moved that the Bill be read a third time that day three months. Their Lordships divided, when there appeared— For the Bill ... ... 11 Against Majority ... —4 The Bill was then read a third time and passed. NEW ZEALAND SETTLEMENTS BILL. _ _ Earl GREY moved the second reading of this Bill. The Duke of NEWCASTLE expressed his satisfac tion that certain clauses in the original Bill, involving constitutional questions, which would have caused great discussion, had been withdrawn. After a few words from Earl GREY, the Bill was read a second time. _ _ _ The Board of Health (No. 2) Bill passed through Committee. The Board of Health (No. 3) Bill was read a first mP. _ _ _ The Lunatics (India) Bill passed through Committee, and was subsequently read a third time and passed. On the motion of Lord REDESDALE, the CoDec- Lions of Fines (Ireland) Bill, the Constabulary Force (Ireland) Bill, the Summary Jurisdiction (Ireland) Bill, end the Petty Sessions (Ireland) Bill, were severally read a first time. Their Lordships then adjourned. FIOUSE OF COJIMOIVS, August 4. (Continued from our Third Edition of yesterday.) EPISCOPAL AND CAN rULAR ES PATES MA NAGEUENT (No. 2) BILL. The House then west into . Committee an this I3ill. On clause 1, The SOLICITOR-GENERAL intimated that an al teration had been introduced into this Bill for the pur pose of recognising more fully and protecting the claims of the 1• BSPeS. Mr. YIGO IT objected to going on at all with the Bill, because the majority of the II ,use bad left town under the impression that the Bill had been abandoned for the present session. The rights of the lessees had never been brought under consideration before the present moment. _ _ _ _ _ ----- Colonel SIBTHORP also objected to proceeding fur ;her with the Bill. _ Mr. HEADLAM thought the best course to adopt would be to go through the Bill now, and to consider, on the third reading, whether, after all, it would not be better to postpone making it law until next session. Lord H. VANE also contended for the propriety of protecting the lessees. Sir J. DUCKWORTH said the Bill was introduced as a compromise between the ecclesiastical corporations and the lessees, and was, therefore, essentially permis sive in its character; but the words proposed by the So licitor-General would render the measure compulsory, and to that he objected. Sir B. HALL said that his opposition had arisen from the late period of the session at which so important a measure was brought in by the Government, when it was impossible to do justice to the subject. Millions were at stake in the matter, and yet the B►ll was urged on with indecent haste, and if it were passed, precedents, which would be injurious to the interests of the lessees, would be established. With regard to the proposal of the Solicitor-General, ho considered it important that they should pass those words, and then when the clause was agreed to they should cease legislation on the sub ject, and let the proposition thus approved by Parlia ment go as an instruction to tho capitular bodies and bishops to guide them in their dealings with the lessees.' As for a permissive measure it would he of no use. Out of 2,000 tenants which the Bishop of London had, he had only enfranchised 60. That showed the value_of permissive measures. Mr. AGLIONBY approved of the words proposed by the Solicitor-General, but thought that they ought to go on with the Bill, and endeavour to im prove it. He (Mr. Aglionby) would support the amend ment, as he had the greatest confidence in the Church Estates Commission. Mr. CARDWELL said the clause was the hinge of the whole Bill. He contended that the strangest of all reasons for not making a change of the nature proposed in the Bill was the tact admitted by the Hon. Member, that a large number of Members interested in the subject bad arrived in town to support it. The insertion of the words in question was a total change of the Bill, and di rectly at variance with the recommendation of the Select Committee. He submitted that they would effect a change in the law which should not be attempted at this period of the session, and he called on the Commit tee not to assent to such a change without evidence. There was only one of two courses span—either to pass a comprehensive Bill to meet the whole subject, or to pass one which should not change the entire relations between the lessees and the lessors in the case. Mr. E. DENISON thought it was just and reasonable that the words proposed should be aaopted, seeing they formed part of the report of the Select Committee as well as of the resolution of the Committee of 1839. At present there were no rules for the administration of Church property, because the Commissioners would nut act until Parliament hAd interfered to trame such regu lations. It was, therefore, most important that no mea sure should pass that did not include instructions to these Commissioners. He thenglat the words proposed were a great amendment to the Bill, and that they were absolutely necessary. For this reason he should support the amendment. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY opposed the insertion of the words, because it cast a discretion upon the Commission which it was most unjust to place upon any three gen tlemen. It was also doing injustice to the lessees to act without laying down any regulation. The Bill was not founded on the report, for it dealt with all kinds of pro perty—houses and mines inclusive—though the report of the House of Lords excepted all but rent -charges and annuities. Until distinct rules were laid down for the administration of any class of property the Bill would be of no advantage. Colonel SIBTHORP said the speeches of the Right Hon. Member for Liverpool and the Hon. Member for Exeter were for postponement of the Bill. Ile (Colonel Sibthorp) believed the best way would be, to put a stop to the further progress of the Bill, as to let it go on would be most dangerous. He should, therefore, m ove to report progress. Sir J. GRAHAM thought the importance of the Bill was too great to obstruct its further progress, but he was not prepared to agree to the insertion of the words proposed without further notice. The question was a most important one, affecting, as it did, the lessees of Church property as well as the Church itself, in respect to the provision for spiritual destitution. Six years ago (1845) general rules were laid down by the Ecclesiasti cal Commissioners in respect of the administration of their great trust. The Hon. Member for Cirencester said those rules embodied principles which were dis honest, and he complained that, in estim s ati f ietthe cent.inte rest of the lessees, two different tables— and 3 1 per cent. — were used. But this was tables— a s o the simple imple difference between the fee simple and the leasehold, and he (Sir J. Graham) could n o t a d m i t i ts d is h one sty. He could not admit that a bishop was disho nes t man; nor that men like Mr. Hobbouse, Lord a Chichester, and others —excluding himself —would be parties to a general rule, eontrary to their conscience. There was the interest of the lessee on the one hand, and that of the Church on the other.—(sear.) He (Sir J. Graham) had always been opposed to the difference between the episcopal and common fund, as well as to the fluctuations of the bishops' incomes, But he held it to be impossible that the spiritual wants of the community could be hereafter relieved out of the taxation of the country, seeing the spread of dissent that unhappily prevailed. That from which it should be relieved hereafter, therefore, was the property of the Church, and no trust could conse quently be higher or more sacred than that of keeping up this property. There were seven modes of dealing with this property on the part of the lessors, and it was time, therefore, to frame a general system of regulations. They were discussing a question of four years value of the leasehold property of the Church, involving millions —(Hear)—in a House composed, for the greater part, of lessees or those having an interest of that kind, and scarcely any one representing the interests of the Church ___(n ear .) . If ever there was an opportunity on the part of the Legislature of dealing with this point, it was when the Committee had reported; but six years had, nevertheless, been suffered to elapse without any at tempt to frame resolutions foe the management of this property. It might be right to say, power for the first time shall be given to sell the property of the Church. The principle came down unaltered from the House of Lords, but to this was added a clause by the Solicitor- General, that a favourable consideration, as far as lessees were concerned, should be permitted. He was not pre pared to combat either proposition, but considering the past history of the Church, and the interests of the people, spiritual more especially than temporal, for Par liament at this late period of the session to come to a decision on such an important proceeding v as , i n h i s opinion, not safe or expedient. Lord J. RUSSELL said if it was right to consider the question, which ho considered it was, as it was in cainmity with the wishes cf the llouso of Iderdaa-if it were right to consider the terms on which Church pro perty should be dealt with, he did not see how it was jaet to say that equitable consideration towards lessees should be lefi out of the case; though with respect to an alteration of the proposed terms he considered the House was precluded, by the lateness of the session, from taking that matter into consideration. He thought lessees had greater reason to complain than he at first supposed. What he understood was, that the Ecclesias tical Commissioners, on the one hand, ware to make an agreement with lessees and others for the purchase of their property; and on the other, that the Church Estate Commissioners were to have a superintending control, so that neither the Church nor the public could be injured. But judging from the course of the debate it would only be the strict legal right a court of equity Would enforce which would be attended to, and tne Commissioners were only to say whether any agreement that might be come to was within the strict meaning of the law or not. This was the view of his Hoo. and Learned Friend the Solicitor-General and several others who represented the interests of the lessees. Now what was proposed was not compulsory—binding on the Commissioners — it only give them a certain latitude to consider cer tain things—it empowered them to have a just regard to any reasonable claims arising from long practice. There was no question about the character or fitness of the Commissioners for their office. They had been jointly ap , : oiuted by the Crown and the Bishops, and in considering the just and reasonable claims of lessees they were to be restrained from going beyond what they might consider a fair and reasonable compensation. The whole question received itse:f into this: whether equitable cleuns—not claims that could he enforced in court of law—should be compensated in any case. He wished the plan had been placed in another shape before the House of Lords, it would have been fairer, and be should have been better pleated than with the Bill as it at present stood. But he considered the House were not in a condition to agree to the Bill unless they took care that the interests of the leeees in some degree were re garded. He could not deny that when it had been the practice for ecclesiastical corporations to renew leases as riot only the bust mode of managing the property, but because income would cease unless they adopted this renewal, that the lessees ought to have some considera tion, when not only a practice existing for years was to be altered, but the property was to be dealt with in an other form, and either sold or purchased. With these views he was quite ready to support the Solicitor-Gene ral's motion, as it was not compulsory, but only gave the Commissioners power to do what was just and reason' able. If legislation did not take place now with regard to those rights it would be necessary next session to con sider other measures. But if measures of a more com pulsory character were proposed, still they must have those elements of justice in them from which he was not willing to depart.—(hear.) Mr. J. A. SMITH wished to retract any objectionable expression that might have fallen from him in relation to the Church Commissioners, but he could not help thinking the rules he had referred to were unfair. Be would give an illustration of his meaning. The estate of the Church was valued at 30 years' purchase, the es tate of the lessees was valued at 20 years, and this he could not consider fair. The Bishop of Lincoln had ex pressed his opinion that the rules were unfair, and he believed the Church Estates Commissioners had refused to act on those rules, because they also considered the/ were unfair. In ordinary transactions of life it would be deemed unfair to estimate the seller's interest at one rate and the buyer's at another. Though he raised these ob jections, he was as strong a friend to the Church as there could possibly be—but he was not disposed to ant unjustly by sacrificing the interests of the lessees for the benefit of the Church, nor would he consent to depri ve the lessees of their just rights and p ro p er ty, even thoug h advantage and benefit were to be conferred on t hat Church. It was not the charge of not b e ing friendly t° the Church that would frighten him from, t h at course which his sense , of duty constrain, d him to take. Mr. CAYLEY said the interests of the Church would .. not be advanced by acts of injustice. The rules la down down by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners outraged the sense of propriety of every man throughout the cone' try. It was necessary, therefore, knowing the bias of their minds, that something should be done to alter th,e . system and to prevent injustice from being perpetratee. The rules of the Commissioners, if act e d upon, svotlia have the effect of taking 12,000,000/. out o f the pockets of the lessees. Mr. SPOONER said the Right Hon. Gentleman had stated he was a lessee und e r th e Ch urc h. lie vra s ; so to a very small amount, but h e cou ld assure ,e Right Hon. Grentlernan his conduct would not be blase" by that circumstance. He was at one time willing to take the Bill without the instruction to take into co° . sideration the interests of the lessees, because he be. lieved the interests of the lessees would otherwise be considered in other clauses of the Bill and the reports and because he considered the Bill would do mu? good. But after the turn the d e b a t e h a d t a k e n, and the declaration that Parliament had never recognised , s a e. the equitable, but the moral right o f th e l esse es, he ecli sidered it was essential to have th e wor d s inset ill which would put the question beyond doubt. The was to be passed as a permissive Bill, a n d the! ebY the f recommendations in the report would have a chanc ° ° being carried out. Besides the question of the tesse e.si: there was even a more important question involve d , i h it. He referred to the interests of the Church, s/ 13 ' 13 , 1 ,, would be seriously affected if the Bill, professing t ° an act of justice to lessees, were thrown out on that ea d : count. If the Bill were thrown out on that groan Government would find that future legislation on tb6) subject would become very difficult. Mr. BARROW was anxious to have the words acloP tec i l l in the Bill. He considered, a s tl. e l essee h a d road i e ,ah the improvements on the soil, whi c h b a d i ncrea se" value of the Church property, he ought to have aonie turn for his outlay. Mr. HENLEY said that the ques ti on b e f ore them 1 1 that the Chairman report progr ess , an d b e UMW, say t l l l everything that had taken pl a c e s i nce l as t the su b i e b . o was discussed strengthened him in the opinion that ta d measure ought not at present to be further proceedede with. One thing quite clear was that no one had des74 the justice of the amendment, which, in his opinioo,cl;. not interfere with the permissive nature of the Bill• to difficulty which he felt was that they were asked 13 come to a decision upon it with imperfect inforinsti°4 and in too great a hurry. If compelled to vote he shun t e vote in favour of the introduction of the words, beestlshalo without such words the Commissioners would not the power to give that favourable consideration to th e claims of lessees which all agreed they ought to reeelvee„ But, as no notice had been given of an intention to Pr beZ pose such words, he thought the better course would ..t to stop at once, and not compel the Committee to Wei' words which might not saisfy any party. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL, in answer to those Honoureble Gentlemen who urged delay, asked them t° recollect the mode in which the Bill had been intro duced. The Bill had corns down tea them founded upot; ` been affirmed at every stag e, and the members 0 the report of the Committee. T he p rinciple of it bee, the Committee were u nanimous in opinion that the claims of lessees s hould be dealt with this Be l a won. He could not agr ee that the pro p osed words won alter the V principle of the B ill. for it they week) do of then the Bill must h ave been founded o n a prin ci e le.° he t h e se hear.) ) he wished t o d o by In his opi n i on the I I ore e s ie injustice—(Gear , j e u d s e t d i c et that which he had proposed. Unless some step was taken to 5 011 1 the matter amicably this session, they would be s t h i l e further removed next session from any agreement en s o question. In his opinion it would be most dist" use true interes of the Church to leave the qu estisie settled. Mr. J. STUART raid it was in vain to expect on a Aof tbhleueLobrodosk, Committeecon subject of so much importance that anything could be se t i is d f e a r ctorily done without full information and d ue ci ld proce a e t d i° i n nies just been issued, and time ought to begiven for the P - ; rusal of it. The im g g • was vend portance of the question eid great, for there was not a county in England W h ` c • h not contain property of the nature of that Wi th °hie d n they were asked to deal. His Hon. and Learned Fr- e t a the Solicitor-General was not correct when he stated that they were asked now to deal with the Bill ati " 9 der come from the Lords, for they were called on to con l and a most important alteration proposed by his 1 1 ° n ' r i n e tit i n ill o the t e h e e Yeindheintelcitti ab Learned Friend himself. Although friendly to the P a ciple of the Bill, he should certainly under the circ stances vote in favour of reporting progress. Mr. ALCOCK approved of the principle o f the key , but thought that some notice ought to have been : 3 0 3 of sub-lessees, a numerous and important hods% ~ i t he drawn up a clause on that point, and had placed' it 1 4, hands of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, bu t be ro.. not aware how the Hon. and Learned Gentleman P posed to deal with it. lalls e The SOLICITOR-GENERAL thought the en e and the point to which it r e f erre d we ll worthy °- sideration. for Mr. NEWDEGATE said that the Hon. Member Surrey had anticip a t e d hi m on t h e su bj e ct of sub' c ou ld The point was o ne d eserv i ng consideration, for it res t not do to allo w su b-l essees , among whom were f e on many tenant-farmers, to be handed over like set " f o r change of lessees. No doubt, if due time were gip s hi c k consideration, some decision might be come to vi erty would avoid all injustice to lessees, and save the p r°P 0 0 of the Church from confiscation. A short time t o e, meeting was called of persons interested in thi s q u F o s e, l a and it had separated without coming to any decist too the belief that Parliament would not legislate viatu further information on the subject. a re The Committee then divided, when there apP ea 20 For reporting progress ... Against it ••• ••• ••• •• 58 8 Majority ••• 3 e ta: , The Committee then proceeded with the consi der of the clause. th e Mr. CARD WELL proposed to add at the end °f that clause the following words:—" Provided alwal 9 9 o irP to nothing herein contained shall be deemed or Dik e s o r vary or affect the legal or equitable rights, estat.e!theit. interests of such ecclesiastical corporations, o r of lessees respectively." the The SOLICITOR-GENERAL objected to t bs amendment, and said. that, without thi s proviso,6,.joi clause in no degree altered the legal or equitable re of the parties. consented t° Mr. CARD WELL, upon this assuranc e, copse withdraw the proviso• but divis ie° ' Ler. CAYLEY and M ' r. AWN insisted upon a The galleries were then cleared of strangers. et i e ed No division took place, the proviso being "leg' by consent. The clause was then agreed to. bad gense Sir B. HALL complained that after the of log es come to a unanimous decision that the ri g l il fe ber f or should be fairly considered, the Hon. of the fi cele- Liverpool (Mr. 'Cardwell), who was one resolution staetical Commissioners, having proposedvr from l e t ' e directly opposed to that decision, wit" pored out of tu ° House—or he should rather say come to a decfsioti on House—when they were about to come . . _ s _ g provi o RIM; hi (Min that be Wight Puw 4 "4 . 7:v iddi c Ac .ur , yeti li 111, it , , lore 1 cliku, th e l / 4r: