The Sun. — London, England, 1851-06-03 00:00:00

THE SUN, TURKEY. Tbe Condi tzdionnel has the following from Con atantinople, dated the 17th :—" An important change has just taken place in the Turkish Ministry. Ifn i fortunately I have no time to obtain exact informa tion in time for the packet. RESCHID PACHA and ' his party are triumphant. The dismissed Ministers are, it is said, MEHEMET ALI Peelle, Minister of War; SOLISIAN PACHA, Great Administrator and Minister of Marine; and MEHEMET PACHA ' Minister of Police. Ido not know wheth er these Ministers have been replaced. The Director of the Octroi, HUSSEIN B E T, hh3 been also dismissed. At the mo ment lam writing the members of the council and • all the high functionaries of the Porte are assembled in;the apartments of the GRAND VISIEE, to hear the • • *man read which names the new Ministers." RAILWAY IN TEL LI GENCE. WATERFORD AND KILKENNY. The half-yearly meeting of this company was held on Satorday, at the London Tavern ; General M•Leod in . the came. The advertisement convening the meeting having been read, s'o the seal of the company affixed to the register of shareholders, Tke SECRETARY read the report. It stated that the eontrae% for the completion of the railway between Reock ittam and Waterford had been concluded on ravonc.-4:J e terms, upon the understanding that a loan of 40,0001. te obtained from the Public Works' Loan Com missioners, and that the whole of the company's liabi lities be forthwith discharged. All the queries proposed previous to granting a loan had been satisfactorily an swered, sod There was no doubt that when a resolution bad b pissed authorising the directors to borrow this 40,0001., ! ,, e first instalment would be advanced by the board. he statement of accouuts showed that the re. otripts for the halt-year amounted to 8321, and the expen. claim) to 3731. The CHAIRMAN having moved the adoption of the re port, it was stated, in answer to questions from a p ro - Trietor, that a sufficient number of preference sharps had been taken up to complete the entire undertaki ng , and the directors had no doubt that they should be enabled to settle the claims of the creditors by paying th ew w i th these shares. The report WaS unanimously adopted, and the meet ing was male special fur the purpose of submitting a bill to•the pri T rietors for amending the acts of the company and for other purposes, which having been explained b the solicitor, was approv e d o f b y 'he proprietors y A resolution was then passed authorising the directors to borrow the sum o f 40,0001, and aft er a vote of thanks to tit , chaircaqo the meeting s eparated. AMALGAMATION OF THE EAST AND WEST. YORK SHIRE WITH THE YORK AND NuRTH MIDLAND RAIL WAY.— mer , ting for the above purpose was held at KnareshorQugh on Friday, and the arrangement, as above - mentioned- was aereed to. NORTH-WE TERN RAILWAY. Extrle,:ivot n the minutes of a meeting of general Man-weri of railways, held in the Euston Station, May 22, i " Lt. Harding draws attention to the position of those cmpinies who are aggrievedby the interpretation put upon clause 9 of 7 and 8 Vie., cap. 85 (providing an •zempi.sr,u from Tax on fares at and under Id. per mile), by the lt4iiiva3 Cowmisiioaers and the Commissioners of Inlaud Revenue, on wbich Mr. Swift has reported that a remedy, by legislative enactment, cannot at present be anticipated. " Revolved,—That the attention of the Committee of the Clearing-hoJ=o bo respectfully called to the unsatis factory position of this question, the Railway Companies being now refused all exemption from tax on excursion fares, though under .Id. per mile, except on the lowest fare; that is to say, if is an excursion train running 100 miles the fares are 75., 55., and 35., it is only on the 3s. fare that the Commissioners will grant exemption from tax. A. penalty is thus practically imposed on giving any but the worst class of carriage accommodation. " This will be much more severely felt in a pecuniary shape, as the excursion train traffic to the Exhibition in creases, and should therefore, it is submitted, be looked to before such excursions commence." RAILWAY MASSACRES. Long lists of figures are periodically paraded before the public, in which they are informed how many pas sengers travel annually upon our railways, and what is the number per cent. that meet with any accident on their journeys. We are then usually informed how many used to travel by stage-coaches in the olden time, and what was the per-centage of accidents among passengers by that mode of conveyance. It was impossible in stage-coach travelling to guard completely against all kinds of accident. In railway tra velling it is possible to do so. No amount of care or skill in the proprietors or driver of a coach could furnish absolute security. The coach might be sound and well built, the horses might be well chosen and well driv.., , ..here might be no overloading, and yet an ac cident might happen.. Horses might suddenly tall, or take fright, or the misconduct of the drivers of other vehicles might bring on a collision ; or there might be an unknown danger in the state of the road over which the coachmaster bad no control. There is nothing of the kind in the case of a railway. Bail. way carriages have inanimate machinery for their motive power. A Bream-engine does not kick or bolt or take triglar. It has no vice; and, if it is unsound, the railway company have themselves to blame. Then, the road is their own. None but their own carriages travel On it. Jr these Interfere with the safe transit of each other, or if the road itself is in an unsafe state, it is the fault of the company, and of the company only. We repeat it, a railway accident cannot hap pen without the railway company being to blame. If they buy defective carriages or engines, or if they allow them to become defective by neglect and wear and tear, but persist in using them; it they start their trains too soon after each other; if they do not keep the rails and the permanent way in good order; if they employ insufficient and incompetent servants; if they do any o f these things, th e y are just l y blameab le, and they ought to be made severely responsible.— Weekly News. STARVATION OF GIRL BY HER FATHER AND Srue-xontkft eer BarnisexAOL.- Robert and Louisa Carpenter, who have been for sotre4;vieeks in custody at Bristol upon a charge of cruelly ill-treating Christiana Carpenter, a girl 16 years old, by locking her u ng a in fu a room, half-starying her, and beating her, undernwnesnarturdrather ramination before the magistrates of Bristol In consequence of the immense crowds which thronged the streets upon th e occa sion e` the former remands, and of thetlreatening and vioe lent aspect which the populac e at those times wards the prisoners, the magistrates deemedrisspuramudednttteo keep the time of the present examin a ti on a secret, d their e intention to proceed with it was only ma d e known to to press and to the parties actually engaged in the conduct of the case. It will be remembered that when she was brought up about three weeks since the poor girl was a complete skeleton, only weighing 591bs. in her clothes; her appearance on Saturday was greatly improved. Mr. Brice, the clerk to the justice, stated that in that short period she had gained 191 b. As soon as the prisoners were placed at the bar, the girl was accommodated with a seat in the witness-box, and having been sworn, she stated the case; but while under ex- F_ninat;on the poor girl became exhausted and excit e d, an d Pr!r. Bern .rd, the surgeon in attendance upon her, expressing J l a in ts y opinion that she was not in a fit state to be questioned further, the prisoners were again remanded, the magis trates e ea expressin g t h e i r read i ness to take respons i ble sureties tor their rw ere remo v e - a p p e a r a n c e . No bail bein g forthcomin g , the y to thestatinen.dhinonTe.stody, and the poor girl was driven back l ay A Sat4rd ay , at Gu s rFAIL—An inquest was held on jury, is to the'sHospital, before Mr. W. Payne and a cab proprietor and death drl of Charles Palmer, aged 43, a on the Derby who died from the effects of in juries received very mysterious in night under circumstances ,f a recently resided in the se' e.. It appeared that the deceased day was engaged wit Kent -road. and on the Derby k th Ps ' c d ab in conveying persons to and from various points 0 Chen road, whereby, it was stated, he had received about AL chtea late hour the deceased stopped at a eublie house near , a:T , were he was engaged by Jemmy Welsh, Bernath ha o i t f tler well-known pugilists, to coavey them to London at -a-crown each. T ney gave d ec eased some meat, bre a d , e ee. home, When the deceased receiv e d P ro ceeded p ro ceeded on their wa y from the box of the cab, or b y ether some injury by falling police. He was m eans, at present u• - known to the taken to ' 1 actur e of the where he had every attention paid to him, but he Guy's Hospital, fall. The Wednesday tram severe injuries to th e Spi l u e t he expired on robbed by leg, and other violence, no doubt caused i h t sister of the deceesed stated that before her brother he informed her that he had been hocussed, end er expired some persons who bad been in the cab, by whom also h e w a y bretally ill-treated by being pushed off the ca b . The Co roner was informed that several persons engaged in th e case were absent, but if time was allowed they , no doubt, would " be forthcoming. Tne coroner thereupon consented to ad.. iourti the proceedings for a few days, and the inquiry was ecoordingly adjourned. MaLascuoir OCCURRENCE.—On Thursday after n°oi, 111 inquest W,I, held at Lytham (a favourite watering place about 12 milts from Preston ), on the body of Hannah 4 °wit 20 4 - years of age, who, together with Thomas Smith, a g ed :` ' was drowned. • River Ribbl e bbl e while on a pleasure excursion , on e th li ow.e son int,ou tl-ie establishment that the deceased, who were l cite , p,- , , ,t0 of Dr. Winstanley, of the West ,:., zy n, sere betrothed to ea c h other, and were to have h e ld t , held o. e i i eu r the very d a y on w hi c h t h e i n quisitions were th ...dei a r n zains. I t appeared from the evi d enc e that with d tht ' l l '' , ' , ' ,i ew et , pr u ,„ r other persons left Preston in a boat, sham. Vie bo a t ( wh ' ic e i i ing on a pleasure excursion to Ly about 23 feet in the keel ' a Was in a good state of repair) was centiv been fitted with neeetßel:il feet in the beam, and had re men of the petty, named Joh . ti se., it belonged to two young with a stroll astham and John Blakey. They lia , l t eueeeded, f ebb tide, as far as Warton a village eet 'it ' three miles from well, the some t tk i. r three miles in breaciL, ), where the river is whentloa in consequence, as Ss statee, of a sudden sq capsized, and the whee l il ely were immersed in the ve l icte n t r, being at the time within a few yards of the shore. gathering spot), Anthony Jordan and Peter Lamb ( ~,,10 - 34.. men, named eoekles en the sands within a short distance; thesore;iz. means rendered prompt and praiseworthy assistance which lay at anchor close by, they were the fortunainttieme of rescuing four of the party. Smith, who clung to 'when the boat c a p s i ze d, was taken prom the water a 18111 e youn g laBt time after the a cc id ent , but life was quite extict. The you woman Jowitt was carried about a mile and a-half down the river by the force of the current, and when the tide receded, her body roar found on the s ands. The inquest upon S m i th was bele at Warton. A verdict of "Accidentally Drowned" was given in tub case. On the evening of the inquest both bodies were interred in one grave in the burial-ground of Wartou Churl. DENMARK AND THE DUCHIES. THE ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC A letter from Holstein of the 24th, in the Cologne RAILWAY PROJECT. Gazette, says :—" The Russian note addressed to the The letter from liti:: Whitney in the Times of the 17th Cabinet of Copenhagen has determined M. DE of April, describing his proposed railway across the- RzEnz, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, to proceed to American continent from the 'Atlantic to the P„catio, Warsaw. W e cons id er it as cer t a i n that complica- has excited atte nt i on , an d l e d to o ff ers i n this country tions of a disagreeable character have led to this sod- to afford hi m any ass i stance h e may rEquire.!- ' t he den journey.' , novelty and simpli c ity o f hi s pl an contrast remarkably The the magnitude of its otj•ct, and suggest a has protested revolution in the modes of conducting public enter- The Duke of AIIGUSTENDURGH prises which may opportunely compensate for the against t h e resolution taken by the King of Dazotemi to exclude him from the throne. destruction of faith dutin- th- . 140 N DON, TUESDAY .E'VEN'ING, Jg le last ten years which has threatened to render it impossible to carry out for the future even the most needful and promising undertakings. His schemes is. to build a railway 2,030 miles in length, not only without a shil ling of Government money, but also without raising any contributions from the public, and, when completed, i f t would be the prop er ty o f t h e nat i on ,o the value whose territorial possessions w o uld also be incal culably augmented. At the same time, the elem e nt of self-int erest , t h e true a dj unct o f p ra ctical philan thropy, would operate as the moving causeineverye stage of the whol e a ff a ir. From New York to th Wisconsin border of Lake Michigan, a distance west of about 1,000 miles, there is already a perfect com munication by steamboat and railway, and Mr. 'the line thence to the Pacific. For proposes For grant of thirty miles of the public lauds on each side of the con templated road, and from these, although they are at tl iis t purpose o h e conti n ue asks a present without value except in the immediate neigh bourhood of the starting point, he would create all the means that are necessary. He would, for i nstance. commence with ten miles of the road, and then sell a portion of the lands on each side, which, owing to their proximity to the advancing rush of popu lation, the existing facilities of transit, and the fact of such an enterprise being undertaken, would at once realize considerably more than would be requisite. thus tar to meet the outlay. The point at the end of these ten miles would then be in nearly the same posi tion as that from which h e h ad originally started and with l another lhe r e t b e u n i road would advance, and with a steadiness and tid h e o o h r w e es watched t rapidity which can only be estimated by those ch e e m d ig th ra e ti i ,n. riiesistiobrletnee firstffec 8 0 0 f o in tne ik g s r t e h a e t land is mo st l y prairie, and fir for instant settlement; and one of the p rov i s i ons of the Bill recommended by the Committees of Congress wbo have reported upon the subject is that not more than halt' the quantity granted on each aide shall be sold in the &at instance, the re maining ha f being reserved to complete the work in those districts where the soil might prove poor. Nut only. therefore, would each prolongation of the road na turally render more certain the completion of the re mainder, but it would provide a fund that would place that result beyond all doubt. Gigantic as the scheme is, the simple calculations on which these conclusions are based are familiar to all who are acquainted with the rise and progress of the inland cities of America, and in this case the projector is to stake the reward of all his labours upon their suc cess. After the road shall have been completed and in operation, all the surplus lands or money are, according to the Bill which has been introduced, to belong to Mr. Whitney and his heirs; but there is no provision for any direct remuneration; and consequently, although every step of the work must benefit the nation, he cannot de rive anything except from its float triumph. The ultimate effects of such a land route between Europe and Asia, and its influence in still further ming ling the productions and races of the world, are to be regarded with equal interest in England and the United States. It has been unanimously reported upon by dif ferent Committees of the two Houses of Congress at different sessions, and has also been sanctioned by legis lative votes in about 20 of the individual States. The party warfare, however, of last session prevented a final re-solution from being arrived at. and consequently caused a delay which, as far as the United States are concerned, jeopardizes the project. So rapid is the progress of set- Element iu the west, that the lands in the neighbourhood of the route are fast filling up, and the contingency pre cents itself, that even before Congress will again meet they may be so far occupied as to put it out of the power of Gorernment to make the needful grant. Looking at this possibility, attention has been turned to Canada, whence a feasible route has long been considered to exist from Quebec to Vancouver's Island. In the offers understood to have been made to Mr. Whitney the pos sible adoption of the latter course has consequently been taken into account, the proposal being to furnish him with the necessary capital for the first 10 miles of the line (in consideration for a share of the results contin gent upon its final completion), whether it may pass through American or British territory,, supposing a similar grant of the latter could be obtained. For the present, it appears be has declined to enter into any ar rangement, preferring to wait until the next session of Congress; but it is satisfactory to believe that his bold conception is now sufficiently appreciated on both sides to insure that it will not be suffered to fail for want of any rational aid that can be afforded to it.—Times' City Article. PENINSULA!? AND URI6N lAL STEAM NAVIGATION COMPANY. On Saturday the half-yearly meeting of this company was held at the offici-s in Leadenhall. street, Sir James Matheson, Bart., M.P., presiding. The report stated that the shareholders were aware that the accounts under the deed of settlement were only presented once a year, but the financial position of the company seemed very satisfactory, and warranted the declaration of a dividend for the next six months, ending 31st March next, of 4 per cent. Arrangement' had been made for extending the steam communication with India, China. &c. Considerable attention had been paid to increasing the speed or the company's vessel., and the Hindostan and Oriental now made the voyage from Suis to Calcutta in eight days less than the time stipulated in the mail contract. The company intended to resume the North Coast of China service, by means of the Pilch& bet even Hong Kong and Shanghai. Va rious improvements were intended with regard to the transit of the mail through Egypt, and the directors could state, on the authority of a letter from the Pacha. that be intended to construct a railway through that country, under the direction of Mr. Scephensoe, M.P. The Canton, which bad run on an unknown sunken rock on the coast of China, had, filer being exposed to a sea for eight weeks which would have destroyed a wooden vessel, been got off and found to have sustained damage only which could be repaired at a comparatively trifling cost. The Sir Charles Forbes had been hired to supply the place of the Canton. The company had made a fourth tender to the Government fur the service to Australia, but no definite reply had yet been received. The report was adopted, the dividend declared, a vo►.e of thanks given to the Pacha of Egypt for the interest he had taken with regard to the communication with India, Btc., and to the directors for their continued atten tion to the interests of the company. MEETING of the NATIONAL SOCIETY. It is with no smell gratification that we tied ourselves enabled to announce to our readers the fact, that at the meeting of the National Society on Wednesday next, a resolution will be moved on behalf of the committee by Lord Redesdale, immediately after the reception of the report, which is calculated to unite the votes of all the friends of the society and promoters of Church education, and which will, we hope, supersede the resolutions and counter-resolutions of which notice has been given. Lord Redesdale's resolution expresses regret at the restric tions continued to be iusposed by the Committee of Council on the founders of Church schools, and at the Sam!) time adverts to the continued co-operation of the National Society with the Committee of Council, as a ground of satisfaction. It is not impossible that men of extreme views, w e dd e d to party strife, may take exceptions to this reso l ut i on, either on the ground that it identifies the society with the demand for greater freedom to the founders of Church schools, or, on the other band, on the ground of its being too conciliatory towards the Committee of Council. But sober minded and reflecting men will not regret the het. that pending the dispute a large portion of the Parlia mentary grant has been appropriated to purposes of Church education, and will deem the recognition by the society, with the full concurrence of the committee, of the principle that greater freedom ought to be ac corded to the founders of Church schools, more likely to conduce to the ultimate attainment of that freedom, than a party victory within the society. The time cannot be far distant when, with a Government more favourable to the Church, and a Parlissueutary Committee appointed to investigate the whole question in all Its bearings, Op Church will have full justice done her; and with this prospect before them the members of the society would act most unwisely if they were to encourage any further agitation of controverted topics within its own bosom. We trust that this will be felt by the great majority of the members present on Wednesday; and that, instead of the unseemly, though inevitable, a rife which h- is cha racterised its annual meetings for the last few years, there will be a unanimous, or all but unanimous, resolve to cottbentrate the united strength of its members upon the vigorous end efficient discharge of the great work for which the society was originally establistied.—John i thei CLAIRVOYANCE EXTRAORDINARY .—On Tuesday, Epsom races week, a clairvoyante, named Miss Eagle, some a great in front of the other, •hall, Chippenham, in the caused some little prs uu ne P e el r min g at the Town way she could see about 30 horses all racing, her, mateci app; :ti : Perso-s, in answer to some questions put to behin ', but there was one about a length er, and its name was Teddington. This were down to ineetnt ;easpdeculation amongst believers and sceptics in clairvoy ance on the following evening some scores tilt lasiedseeven o'clock train. As it approached it was heard on poc k ets pretty deep.—D4yer!z many numerous bets were made. The had to nip their hands in their one she's wrong, ,, &e, 3 Now tor clairvoyance; result is known, and Gazette.REGARDED.— neD is DREAMS NOT ALW furnishes us with a relation o f Cicero ling together, arrived at Mag‘rtaw° Arcadians, who travel- Athens and Corinth, where one 4 titY "Greece, b e t ween house, and the other at an inn, then' lodged ii a f r i en d' s who lodged at the private house wentsutO'per, the person asleep dreamed that his friend at th e i nn :ed. and falling and begged his assistance, because the appeared ppeearred to him, to kill him. The man immediately sot out of was going frightened at the dream; but recovering himself and famllincah asleep again, his friend appeared to him a second time, a ,,ii" desired that, as he would not assist Aim in time, he would take care at least not to let his death go unpunished; that the innkeeper having murdered him, had thrown his body in a cart-, and covered it with dung; be therefore begged that he would be at the city gate in the morning, h e t„ re the cart was out. Struck with this new dream, he vent early to the gate, saw the cart, and asked the oriver what was in it. The driver immediately tied ; the dead body was taken out of the cart, and the innkeeper apprehended and exEcuted. The Durha m Ad ver ti s er states that the potato disease has again made its appearance. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. GUILDHALL. - . A person, who stated himself to be a clergyman of the Clench of England, was brought before the Lord Mayor upon the charge of having stolen a shilling from the plate of the church of Allhallows, Barking. Mr. George Creaton, vestry-clerk of the parish of All hallows, Barking, said, I have been desired by the church. warden of the pariah to charge the prisoner with flaying abstracted money from the plate u.ed last night at the lecture in our church. As I was going to Mr. Plummer, who was holding the plate at one of the doors, to say that there was no use in staying any longer, the prisoner went up to the plate, put his hand into it, and took out something. I immediately seized the prisoner's hand, and upon opening it found a shilling in it. I then took him to the vestry-room, and afterwards by the direction of the churchwarden to the station-house, where he was charged with the robbery. The collection was for the benefit of the evening lecture fund. Mr. Plummer is one of our oldest parishioners, and he was therefore requested to hold the plate. The prisoner told me that he did not take any money out of the plate, and that he had placed sixpence in it. No money was taken from him. The solicitor for the prisoner —Did you see him take the money from the plate? Witness —I could not see what he took out of the plate until I opened his hand. When I saw him put his hand in the plate I grasped it immediately. I saw his fingers go ri,lht down upon the money in the plate. Mr. John Plummer, of Tower -street, said—l was holding the plate at the north door of the church, and I saw the prisoner moving to the plate, and felt a pressure on the back part of my hand as his - fingers went into the plate. I saw a sovereign on the plate, and my suspicion was that the prisoner was attracted by the sovereign. which was a new one and rather conspicuous. Mr. Creaton came behind him, and seizing his hand, said, " Yuu villain, you have taken something from the plate." The plate is a deep dish, and the fingers went into it. The prisoner's solicitor—Do you swear that you saw him take money out instead of putting it in? Witness— I can only SLAW as to my belief; which was that he took money out. Mr. John Silverlook, senior churchwarden of All Hal lows, Barking, said—l was holding a plate at the door of the principal entrance at the south side, and the prie softer as be was passing put his hand into my plate, and I think that he took something out. I observed a belt sovereign In my place, but as I saw that was safe I did not accuse him, as I did not wish to condemn unjustly. Mr. Creaton—Your Lordship will observe that when I took the prisoner 1140 the vestry-room upon the charge of abstracting from the plate held by Mr. Plummer, Mr. Silvrrloca directed me, from the b. lief that the prisoner had robbed his plate, to cause him to be taken to the station- house. The Lome MAYOR—WeII, prisoner, do you wish to make any explanation? Who and what are you? The prisoner—l have been a clergyman of the Church of England upwards of 32 years. The LORD MAYOR —Are you in orders now? The prisoner —I am. I had one church in Worcestershire 20 years; and I have served in Eye, in Suffolk, during the absence of the cl-rgy man there. I have two sons in respectable circumstances in London, and I have letters which were found upon me, and which your Lordship can read as evidence or my respectability. I am most willing and anxious to give every explanation. The LORD MAYOR—I am willing to give you every op portunity°, making the necessary explanation. If you are innocent, your present position is, indeed, most painful. The prisoner —I had in my purse, when I went to the plate held by the witness (Mr. Plummer), a shilling, a sixpence, and a halfpenny. I pulled out the shilling and sixpeace tegether, and I put the sixpence into the plate keeping the shilling in my hand. At that moment ano they of the witnesses seized my hand, in which my shilling was. The whole statement made is correct, with the exception of the point as to taking money out of the plate, for instead of taking money out I put money in. I must naturally wish fur the moat searching in vestigation into this extraordinary charge. I am the father of six sons and three daughters, and I never en tertained a thought of committing such au offence as that with which I am charged. The LORD MAYOR—Where dO you live? The pri soner—On Saturday night I slept in a coffee-house in Bishopsgete- street. The officer who apprehended the prisoner said—l took his purse from him, and 1 found a halfpenny in it, as he states. The LORD MAYOR—Did you make inquiries at the coffee-house about him? Officer —I did, my Lord, and I ascertained that he had slept there; bat the landlord said he went away in the morning without paying for his bed or his breakfast, and something was said about something of the same kind about four years ago. The prisoner —It was my intention to pay what I owed at the house in Bishopsgate-street, of course; but this mistake interferes with my intention. The LORD MAYOR---It is SO important to the priso ner, as well as to the authorities of the parish, that this matter ahuuld be investigated, that I am resolved to cause the strictest inquiry to be made into all the state ments, and I shall with that view remand the case for a few days. The prisoner was then remanded. The City Police Commissioner waited upon the Lord Mayor and stated that he bad received a letter from the secretary to the Ragged School Shoe-black Society, asking permission to introduce the plan which is now being adopted in various parts of the metropolis, into the City, to which he (the Commissioner) had given his consent, provided the names of the boys and the places which they were to occupy had his sanction, subject to the approval of the chief magistrate of the City. The plan rscrived the cordial approbation of the Lord Mayor, and arrangements will be immediately made to carry it into effect. The. LORD MAYOR said he had extreme gratifica tion in stating that he bad received a considerable number of coutributions for the relief of the self-term from the Gracechurch-street calamity ; amongst which were the following limal subscrip tions frous the membtrs of the Stock Exchange, per H. Wilkinson, Esq., 351. 10s. ; the bankers, merchants, and inhabitants of Alihaleiws, Lombard street, per W. Has4-1111tili, 1181. 17.. ; Henry Silk, Esq, Hampstead road, et ; Mr. Pinches, coaster of the. Commercial School, George-) ard, near the fallen building, IL, and 41. 12s. as a voluntary contribution of his pupils; collected by Mr. G. Wesimacott, £Bl. 15e; ditto. Spink and Son. 91. 2s. Bd.; ditt o , J. D. Browning, 31 Ba.; ditto, Glade well, 51. 25.; date, J. aught and Son, 21. 10s. 6d.; di to, it. Howell. 9/ Or. 6,1 ; ditto, W. &Dithers. 5/ 19s. 10d.• ditto, W. Jordan, 31 8 1 ; di tto. G . B eck, 11 1 84.1 A. 1. 8., half note 78 239. 5/ ; small sums received by Rsctor of Ethelburgba, 21. 3s. 6d.; Messrs. Fox arid Barrett. 51.; Mrs. Sapwell, 90, Gracechurch street, in small donations, Si. 2s. 6d.; it quest of ward of Bi.hops gate, balance of account from Mr. Owden, Si. 6s. Id.; Pnilip Salonsons, Eiq., 51.; J. R. W., Lt. C., 21; and several smaller sums. Mr. Bail (of the firm of Bell and Corbett) waited upon the Lord Mayor with various contributions for the fund for the permanent benefit of the sufferers, amounting to 261 175., and The LORD MAYOR expressed his high admiration of the humane exertions of the two gentlemen, who showed such deep interest in the deplorable catastrophe, aid were so warmly met by the public feeling. LAMBETH. Mr. Jarman, managing clerk to Mr. Humphries, the solicitor, with sever a l res p ecta bl e persons, attended ' lie fore Mr. Elliott to support a charge of assault, preferred on a former day, against Mr. or Captain Williams, a member of the Army and Navy Club, Pall-mall. The charge against the gallant captain was that &in dulging , with several of his companions, the occupants of a four-in-hand drag, in the aristocratic amusement of pelting every one who approached them with eggs dur ing their homeward progress on the Oaks days. It was the misfortune of Mr. Jarman, and a party of frieeds in a carriage, to approach the " swe ll d rag " at Tooting, and from that place until they bad reached the turvpike gate at South- Lambeth a continuous fire of eggs and other missiles was kept up, so that on reaching the latter place the party fired at were literally covered and drenched with egg-snuff, the odour from which was not of the most pleasing description. At South Lambeth the offenders-were given into the charge of the police, but the latter not being in sufficient force at the place to secure them, the gentlemen were allowed to proceed on giving their names and addresses. The names and ad dresses given were found not to be correct, but the whereabouts - of Captain Williams was discovered by his being followed by one of the sufferers to the Army and Navy Ciub, and a summer's tees taken out aglinst him. His companions would in all probability have got scot tree out of the scrape had it not been fir ae incident that occurred at South Lambeth, and which led to the disclosure of the names of two others of the parry. When the gentlemen were given into the custody of the police, avid the latter were struggling to take them to the station-house, Mr. Henry Peat, the saddler, in Old Bond street, rode up, and being acquainted with the names of several of them, and also knowing Mr..l armee personally, be undertook to furnish the latter with their names, and on this understanding the aggressors were allows i to proceed. On the summons being called on yesterday Captain Williams Wall not present, and English, one of the summoning pacers, deposed that he hart called at the Army and Navy Club to serve Mr. Williams with the summons, and was told that he was out. He (English) .had reason to believe that was not true. It was his im pression that the gentleman was at the Club at the time, and be left the smmaions with the porter in the hall to give to Mr. Williams. Mr. Jarman, addressing the Magistrate, said he had summoned Mr. Peat for the purpose of identifying Mr. Wilalms as oee of the off-nders, and as Mr. Peat was then present, and was well acquainted with the persons of the other delinquents, he hoped his Worship would call on him to disclose their names, so that he (Mr. Jar man) might be enabled to institute proceedings against them. Mr. Peat observed that he was placed in rather an awkward dilemma in the matter. He understood that a solicitor on the part of those accused bad called on Mr. Jarman and had 4,ffered to pay for all the damage they had dune, and any expenses they might have been put to, provided his Worship consented to the case being so settled. Mr. ELLIOTT remarked that ha could not permit an wised i n any such way, and aided that he considered outrage of so se r ious a pu bli c c h aracter to b e compro- Mr. Peat bound to disclose the names of the offenders. Mr. Peat replied, that in dAerence to his Wiirship's opinion he should give up the names of two of the parties .111 the " drag," and these were Messrs. Henry and Thomas Dimadale, the sons of the banker, who lodged at 10, Bury•street, St. James's. Mr. Jarman sciid that he had in attendance a poulterer t i w nf o o b r . 1 - n f a o t r i e on the of r ;..re.s. Peat and from Newg ate - market, who sold and delivered at the eg ' g f s h The d4Y written r us e , 10, B ury• street, a cask containing 800 or 1,000 was then t a k en and sworn to, and Mr. ELLIorr g ra nted warrant a against Mr. Jarman Captain Wil• liana and the Messrs. Dirasdale. IMPERI AMENT CRIMINAL LAW. Lord LYNDHURs'F wished t'.) know what progress had been made in carrying out the recommendations of the Commissioners for the Reform of the Criminal Lsw?—(Hear, hear, from Lord Brougham.) He wished to know whether it was intended to act upon the report of the Commissioners, or to pass it over entirely. The LORD CHANCELLOR Bald that a tew days ago his Noble and Learned Friend had, in the way of ordinary couv•rsatton, aiuded to it, but not in the way to impress him with the idea that he intended to allude to the subj , -ct publicly. Hi- had no reason to thick that it was the introtion of the Government to advance any more money to prosecute the inquiry. Lord BROCG HA VI said that, before Easter, he had put a nearly similar question, and his Noble and Learned Friend on the Woolsack had undertaken to inform him• self on the subject. He had addressed a letter to the Chancellor of the Exchequer on the subject, and had learned, to his surprise and regret, that it was not his intention to . renew the Commission. He had, three several times, brought in a Bill digesting the criminal law, and it had been admitted that the Bill ought to Le referred to a newly con structed Commission—an pinion in which he entirely concurred; and us he understood it was agreed that such Commission should be created, and that the Com mission should make a final examination, and hat to them the propose I code of cri minal procedure should be submitted for final examin,tion, he was much disappointed when he found that no such Commission was to be appointed. By this refusal to renew the Commission the country would be deprived of any ben. fit they mieht have derived from the labours of the Criminal Law Commissioners. The subject then dropped. REGIS [ 'RATION OF ASSURANCES BILL. Lord CAMPBELL moved that the order of the day for the consideration of this Bill be discharged ant post poned to the first day after the Whitsuntide holidays. After a few words from Earl Foswilliam, Lord Oran worth, and the Marquis of Westmeath, the motion was agreed to. PETITIONS. Lord CRANWORTEI presented a petition in favour of the Absconding Debtors Bill; also a petition from a person who held some municipal office, who complained that he bad not been deprived of his office (which would have entitled him to compensation), but that he had been deprived of the profics of his office. The Earl of ENNIeKILLEN presented numerous petitions from various places in Ireland against Pepel agerression. Lord MONTEAGLE reminded their Lordships that these petitions were not in favour of the Bill beture the other Hou.e of Parliament, because in that case they could not be presented, hut against Papal aggression; and he reminded their Lordships that the petitions against the measure could not be presented until the 13ill was be• tore the Louse; and he declared that there was a stroeg feeling in the country against the measure bt fore the other House, or any measure fur imerferung with the Roman Catholic hierarchy. ARREST OF ABSCONDING DEBTORS BILL. Tee Earl of HARROW I3Y moved the second reading of this Biil, the object of which was to facilitate the arrest of absconding debtors, by enabling county court judges to issue warrants for their arrest in the name manner as such war rants were issued by the Judges of ieVestnainster-hall at present; it ea. propo,el to give a similar power to com missioners in bankruptcy fie. issuing warrants. L ird BROUGUUA believed that. some such measure as this was gr. tidy want d. He thought, however, teat some means shouia be isdept.d to ascertain whether an alleged debtor was reel!) iu debt or not. After a few words free) Lord Cranwortb and the Lord Chancellor, and an explanation from the Earl of Harrowby, the Bill was read a second time. PUBLIC WORKS IN INDIA. Lord WHA IeNCLIFFE then rose, in pursuance of his notice, to move ter papers rely tog to public works and intert•al improvement:, in lodis. As be believed that the Noble Lord on the opposite benches who pre sided over the administration of affairs in that country concurred in the propriety of producing these papers, aad as he did not believe that any other of their Lord ships would oeit-ct to their production, he might perhaps have abstained from offering any remarks to their Lord ,hips; hut, coma& ring the nature and importance of the subject, he hoped that be might occupy the attention of the House for a short time white be explained the grounds on which he made his motion, and the position of the cowry which would be elucidated by acceding to it. It had been s ai d on a former evening by the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Broughton), that the East India Company were the trustees of the Crown for the benefit of the people of led's ; tied if that were true, he trusted that he might add that the Legislature and the Crown were also the trustees of Providence for their benefit. Such being the case, and there being nu question as to the importance of the motion, he must remind their Lordships that in the year 1842 the la'e Sir R. Peel, in proposing a . plan fo r t he arrangement of the finances of that part of our empire, called the attention of the House of Commons to the manner in which the condi tion of England was influenced by the flourishing or depressed condition of the finances of India. He (Sir I R. Peel) spoke of the condition of India in a financial • point of view, but he (Lord Vilharocliff,) should proceed to view it as a great social, moral, and commercial question. He was justified in asking for these papers pu those grounds, but he had also other grounds for requiring their production. The communications made to Parliament respecting the internal improvements of 'lndia were singularly rare. There had been an objec tion to proceed with any public works in that country without the previous consent of the Government at home, and the consequence had been that amid ail the I multiplicity of papers transmitted by the i Ecials of the East India Company to the directors at home, on com mercial, judicial, pelitical, and military subjects, there was only to be found one single paper, from 1834 to 1851, respecting public works. That in its. Ir was a suffieient reason for requiring further information. In tne time when the ancient dynasties of India ruled over that vast empire, large ceuuls and other works for draining and irrigating the country existed in the north-western province. of India and near the sources of the Junius and Ganges. It was a reproach to the present Government of India, that such works had been bellow e d to fall into decay and rune.. The Noble Lord re fermi to the Canals which have been constructed in Incite, and to the returns which they have yielded, but he so low a tone of voice that it was impos sible to hear more than all iiccasiouel word. As to roads, there appeared to be very few parts of India in which hood practical roads existed, and where they did they were ()item rendered useless by streams which there were no regular means ot crossing, so that the eliffieuity of removing from one part of the country to team her was exceedingly great. The stoppage of interne' traffic from the want of good roads and bridges Wes so great that grain was somet i mes so ld at a famine pries in one part f Indi., while at another, not more than 300 miles distant, it was sellieg at the lowest conceivable Price. Though the necessity tor grain in one place was most urgent, and though it might be most abundant in another, the want of th e p ro p er means o f communication rendered it impossible to supply the deficiency. It was a singular fact that in Mysore the roads were in far bet ter condition generally than in any part of the . British territory. B e contended that , as a metier of prireciple it was the du'y of the East India Company to proceed as far as it poss i bly could iu the execution of public works in that country, so as to develops to the ut moist extent its great and growing resources. Of course, the means of doing so must depend very much upon the state or the Indian finances. He found that from the close of the great BUFM-se war down to 1838 there existed in the Indian Exchequer a consi derahle surplus; iu the years 1835-36 37, it amounted t 3 470,000/. Prim that time to this, however, there had been a successien of military events by which the company had necessarily been driven into great expen diture, and in 1848 49 the surplus had been converted int t a d. ficiency (as we understood) of 2,800,0001. This state of matters was, no doubt, inimical to the con struction of public works; but, nevertheless, ho could net help thinking that much more ought to have been done, and that the cessation of public works had in it self proved injurious to the Indian revenue. For the last 20 years the revenue of the East Indic Company had be en 16,000,0001., making an amount of 320 000,000 L during that period, while the greatest sum expended by them in any one year on public works was 238,0001. It was but justice to the 'adieu Government to say, however, that th e r e w ere severa l cana l s now going on. Ho trusted that the prosp• ct before them was better than fer some years past, that they would not have so many military calls upon them as unfortunately had been the case, and that therefore the East India Com pany would be able to enter upon the execution of . . HOUSE OF LORDS, June 2. Tlie LORD CHANCELLOR Wok his .seat on the Woolsttek at Poe &cluck. COURT OF CHANCERY. Lord LYNDHURST understood that the Bill intro duced into the other House by the Prime Minister had been abandoned, and that a now 13111 (with the drawing up of which he hoped his Noble end Learned Friend on the Woolsack had had more to do than he had had with the former Bill) was about to be intro duced. In the last session a Bill for the reform of the Court of Chancery in Ireland had been intro duced by the present Master of the Rolls ; that Bill had passed into a law and the result had been most satisfactory. In consequence of that Bill 694 petitions had been presented and only twenty-nine bills had been filed for proceeding in what had previously been the ordinary mode. That was satisfactory so far as regarded plaintiffs, and as regarded defendants not one had pe tioned to proceed by bill instead of petition. The law officers in Ireland had testified to the admirable working of this Act, and he hoped his Noble and Learned Friend would consider these facts; and he had been assured that at the conclusion of this term there would not be one of these 694 petitions on which a decree would not have been pronounced. He commended these facts to the at tentive consideration of his Noble and Learned Friend. The LORD CHANCELLOR hoped that the Bill now in the hands of the Prime Minister would meet the expectations of his Noble and Learned Friend. He could well understand that all matters now brought forward by bill might be brought forward by petition, but he did nut think that would materially aid the administration of justice. His Noble and Learned Friend had said that upier.rds of 400 oases had been disposed of, and be should have been glad it in an equal number of cases in this c iuntry, counsel would have ceased speaking. He thought that such an entire alteration in the administration of justice should be adopted with caution; he would make inquiry into the subject, and was obliged to his Noble and Learned Friend tor having drawn his attention to the matter; and would be at all times happy to receive any suggestions from his Noble and Learned Friend, on a subject which ho so well understood as the administration of justice in the Court of Chancery. The Cork and Waterford Railway ; Great Northern Railway (No. 2) ; Killarney JJection Railway ; Man chester Improvement ; Manchester Waterworks ; Mary port and Carlishi Railway ; Ulverston and Lancaster Railway ; Waterford and Kilkenny Railway, and Wicklow Harbour. The Newark -upon-Trent Improvement and Market Bill was ordered to be re-committed. NEW FOREST DEER REMOV AL , &c. BILL. On the motion for the second reading of this Bill, Mr. G. BERKELEY moved that the Bill be read a second time this day six months. He complained that the measure would d•prive the poorer inhabitants of the forest of the rights of commonage to 20,000 acres. Mr. COAIPTON would not support the amendme, but he suggested that various additions and alterat ions should be made in Committee. Lord SEYMOUR &fended the Bill, and said it was called for by the present circumstances of the New Forest. The House then divided, when there appeared— Fur the second reading ... ••• 82 Against it •.. ••• 28 Majority ••• ••• ••• —54 The Bill w as th en read a eel:3°nd time, and ordered :o be committed. PETITIONS. Mr. REYNOLDS presented several petitions from places in Ireland twainst the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill. Sir D. DUNDAS presented a petition from a place in Scotland against Papal aggression. Mr. G. BERKELEY presented a petition from Glou cesrershire. praying for an equalisation of poor-rates. Mr. MOORE presented petitions from the county of Sligo against the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill. Mr. HEY WOOD pre-ented a petition from Burnley, praying for the repeal of taxes on knowledge. Mr. F. MACKENZIE presented a petwou from Perth &pilafs; Papal aggremen. JUNE B. public works in- that country with more - vigour and e atneetness than hitherto had characterised the admi nistration of India. The Noble Lord concluded with moving ter papers connected with the cunstruction'of works in India. Lord BROUGHTON agreed with almost every word that had fallen from the Noble Lord as to the impor tance of this question, and he thought the Noble Lord had pursued the course which was best calculated to produce the result he had in view. He had only done justice to the East India Company when he referred to their intentions in this matter, though he (Lord Brough ton) was not prepared to say that on the whole more at tention might not have been paid by Indian Govern ments to the construction of public works. The Noble Lord had stated truly that during the course of many years, especially from 1837 to 1846, the East India Com pany was engaged in the most expensive wars, and that therefore it was impossible for them with the same earnestness to carry into effect any great works. But even during those nine years of war the Government of India bad dune very great things in that direction, for he found a considerable sum annually expended on public works. The Noble Lord had referred to several works in progress and he would now State more in det a il th e expenditure incurred in some of those undertakings. On the Western Jungle Canal, 425 miles in length, a sum of 352,000/. teal been expended ; the Eastern Jungle Canal. 160 miles, 194,0001.. and a canal in the Bengal Presi dency cost 552,0001. The Ganges Canal, 442 miles, with a branch in addition, was calculated, when completed, to cost 500,0001 In the Madras territory there were works also in progress. The Tanjore Canal would cost 30,000/. In Sinde there had also been an outlay, though not vary large; and in the Punjaub the present Governor- General had devoted 50 0001. a-year to the construction of canals. Besides these works, which were of very great importance, there had been the trigonemetrical survey, costing 341,000/. As to the finances, the last balance-sheet presented to Parliament in February gave a rather better account of the state of Indian affairs than the Noble Lord seemed to suppose. The sketch esti mate for 1849-50 showed instead of a deficiency a surplus of 70 0001, [Lord ELLENBOROUGH here made a remark across the table.] He was quite aware that this was only what was called " a sketch estimate," and he would not say that at the end of the ye tr the result was equal to what the estimate held out; but, at any rate, the finan cial prospect was much more favourable than last year they had any reason to expect. He had not only no ob j. coon to give the Noble Lord the papers he bad moved for, but would do so with great pleasure. In conclusion, he would say that it signified little what bad been done in times past, it they bad the assurance that more would be done in future; and he concurred entirely in the hope expressed by his Noble Friend, that no more wars would occur to interfere with those measures that were neces sary fur the improvement of India, and the development of her resources.—(Hear.) The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH expressed his gra tification that the NoWe Lord who had brought forward the motion, and who at an early period of life had given his attention to the affairs of India, should still take an interest in those affairs. If in this country it was essen tial to draw water off the land, it was essential in the East to bring the water on the land for the production of any crop. In England drainage might improve the soil, but in the East that result was to be sought by means of irrigation. He had never seen greater cause for encou ragement than the statements of Lieutenant-Colonel Dickson with respect to the works constructed under the direction of that gallant officer. He had been informed, however, of the prejudicial effect which the Delhi Canal (as we understood) exercised on the health of the inhabitants residing in the neighbourhood. Coming in contact with the chiefs, be had asked them what was the effect of that canal on revenue and on health, and, is answer, he had learned that while they acknowledged a great improvement in the revenue, they greatly deprecated its influence on the health of the ajoining districts. He must be permitted to express the apprehensions he entertained with respect to the Gauges Canal, if it were to be executed in the way proposed; and he wished to call attention to the ex tremely perilous character of the undertaking in at tempting to draw water from the Ganges at the point intended. But there was another matter on which he bed also insisted, namely, that it should first be a canal of navigation, and whatever surplus water there was might be used for irrigation. He was satisfied that in all cases where the formation of the country was such as to render it possible to have tanks, it was better and cheaper and more convenient to have a mode of irriga tion by them than by canals. Of late years there had been great improvements made in the roads of India, but such improvements went on slowly; the persons who superintended their construction were engineer officers, who were not only liable to have their attention occasionally taken off that employment, but among whom there might be expected to exist such varieties of industry and ability as would account for the different progress made in the execution of works, It would be with great satisfaction that the Nobl- Lord at the head of the Board of Control would hear the hope expressed of something like a surplus in India. He (Lord Ellenborough) had at one time gone carefully over the accennts, but he did not see his way to a surplus, though the state of matters was very much better than when he arrived in India. With respect to railways, he would much rather that the Government of India should, if it approved of their formation, dispense altogether with the aid of speculators, and take the mat ter into its oen hands. Tu that Government the estab lishment of railways must be a great benefit, as affording facilities, not only for moving troops, but fur bringing raw produce to the sea. It a railroad could be formed from Bombay to the cotton districts, and measures were taken by the Gov rnment for the improvement of cotton in India. much would be done to se cure the attainment of one of the greatest objects this country could have in view as connected with India; namely, independence of America for a supply; but that cotton would not be found in the British territory; it was to be found rather in the territory of allied powers. Cotton gas to this country as food; and they could as little bear to have he introduction of cotton interrupted as of food. He had examined the subject on the spot; he had considered it deeply; he had sent home the result of his inquiries. Let the Noble Lord read the answer, and he could not wonder that he (Lord Ellenborough) felt disgust that the efforts of a public servant should have been not only met by captious objections, but by a sneer against him fir those very efforts. The Earl of HARRO W BY deprecated what he thought the pitiful expenditure for the benefit of 100 000,000 of British subjects in the East. There seemed to have been from the beginning a radical defect in the Indian Administration: it was the primary duty of a paternal Government to provide for the formation of roads and the extension of irrigation; and he contrasted the con duct of the Ms,homedan conquerors, who had reckoned it a first duty to attend to these matters, with that of their European successors. Th e motion was then agreed to. The LORD CHANCELLOR presented a Bill relating to the regulation of charities, and de'cribed it as being grounded on a report which would be laid on the table to-morrow, and which would go to show the absolute necessity of some Bill of the kind. The Bill was re ad a first time. " CLEOPATRA'S NEEDLE." The Marquis of WESTMEATH wished to inquire what steps had been taken for obtaining possession ot, or for removing, the obelisk called " Cleopatra's Needle," in consequence of the gift made to George IV. by the late Pasha of Egypt in 1320? Tne Noble Marquis adverted to the proposal made for its removal to this country at the end of the campaign of 1801. The opinion of the late Sir Robert Peel expressed to himself was that it was a monument which ought to be brought to Lon don and erected as a memorial of Sir Ralph Abercromby and others who had fought and died in Egypt. The late Sir G. Murray also stated that he joined with all his military and naval friends, who desired that the obelisk should be brought to this country. Some ob loquy had been thrown on the condition of this monu ment, under the impression that it was not of adequate vela@ to compensate for the trouble and expense of re moval. Perhaps the intrinsic value might nut be much, but, as a monument and as a trophy, it bad a value pe culiarly its own. The sculptures, he understood, were in comparatively good preservation. lie had called at tention to the subject solely at the request of several military and naval officers. The Earl of CARLISLE aknowledgt d the importance which attached to the obelisk, not merely as a memorial of the ancieut art of Egypt, but also as a monument of British heroism. He had consulted with his Noble Friend the First Lord of the Treasury, and inquiries had been made on the subject. There were, he appre hended, some mechanical difficulties, and all he could say was that the matter was still under consideration. The Bridges (Ireland) Bill was recd a first time, and their Lordships adjuurned et a Quarter to Eight o'clock, HOUSE OF COMMONS. June 2. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. The ametAtments to the South Wales RAilway (No. 1) Bill were considered and agreed to, THIRD READING adS. The following Bills were then re a third time and pas INCOME TAX. Mr. HITME nominated the Select Committee to in quire into the subject of the income-tax, consisting of the following gentlemen:—Mr. Hume, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Horensan, Mr. Herries, Mr. Lebouchere, Lord Harry Vane, Mr. Disraeli, Mr. Thomas Baring, Mr, Henley, Mr. Cobden, Mr. Frederick peel, Mr. Roebuck, Mr. Ricardo, Mr. Vesey, and Mr. Beckett Denison. The course he thought which would have to be pursue d by this Committee in their labours would be, to as certain the workings of the tax in all its ways, and to see wh e th er any mode couldbe adopted ' to render it more fair and equal, and as little as possible oppressive to the industry e f the people. He looked forward to the present inquiry to render the tax a means of maintaining one uniform system of charges in the country, without this necessity of more extraordinary charges, which they had witnessed of late years, and which he contended, even if they were for the better, yet at first produced has evils. His earnest wish was to retain a permanent system. Mr. HERRIES said when he had voted for the motion of the Hon. Member opposite to limit the tax fur one year, he certainly did not mean his vote to involve au assent to the present inquiry, acid more especially when he now perceived that the intention with which the Honourable Member went into it etas not to abolish the tax but to mend it, cer tainly, if he could ; at all events, to make it permanent. That principle he differed from altogether. There was also another point on which he differed from the Hon. Member, and that was that the chief grievance of the tax was in schedule E. In his opinion it wasachedule D which w as most faulty and unjust. The Hon. Gentleman had adverted to Mr. Pitt, but he had forgotten that there, was a wide difference between the circumstances of 1798 and those of the present time. The tax might have been expedient then, but it was totally uncalled for now. To show the injustice of the tax he might mention an instance of ine quality which had come under his own observation. A certain maeufacturer had returned his profits at 70,0004 a year; but the local commissioners were di.satisfi d wish that return, and in order to avoid a full investiga tion into the wbole of his private affairs he was obhged to pay the tax upon 180,0001. But that was only one instance of its injustice.—(Hear, hear.) Now, with regard to the Committee, be did not think it had been fairly selected, and he was very much afraid that it would accomplish no useful end. The tax was full of inequalities, unjust in its operation, and liable to encou rage fraud, and he therefore thought the best thing that could be done was to abandon the tax altogether. Colonel SIB MORI' thought the tax in any shape would be objectionable, and he agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman that the prop: bed inquiry could lead to no good result. He complained that no Member had been selected to serve on the Committee who would be likely to represent the interest of the army and navy. He, for one, thought officers in the army and navy, who lived upon their pay, ought to be exempted from the payment of the tax, and he was, on that ac count, the more annoyed at the omission referred to. Mr. V. SMI rH had come down to the House under the impression that there was nothing else to do but to nominate the Committee, but it appeared to him now that the appointment of any Committee at all was an open queetion. If it wise he. was quite ready to vote that there should be no Committee, fur he was averse to shitting any part of the responsibility which duly belonged to Government on to the shoulders of a dozen Members of the House. What would this Committee have to du supposing it was ap pointed? At one time it was supposed that the object of its appointment was the equelisation of the tax, but now it appear* d the question to be decided was how far land could be relieved from its operation, and it that really were so, how could the Committee arrive at any satisfactory concltelon on that point, when nine Alembi rs proposed to be nominated would represent towe ,s and only six countie s ?—(H ear, h ea:. ) H e hoped the House would make some alteration in the coustitu tem of the Committee, it they were. to have any at all. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had un derstood that the tax sees to be contihued fur a year, and, in the meanwhile, a Committee was to be appointed with a view of rendering it more equal in its operation before it was rendered permanent. The discussion which had just taken place showed the inconvenience which arose from two parties prolessiug opposite principles uniting to carry a particular motion, because now it seemed that while tree side wished to improve the tax with a view of rendering it permanent, the other wanted to get rid of the tax eltegether.—(aear, hear.) The Government could not accede to the latter proposal, and they had consequently no alternative but to consent to the appointment of the Committee, and now that such a motion had beets agreed to, their object ought to be, so to constitute the Committee that it should represent every shade of feeling in the House. The Hon. Gentleman who had named the Committee appeared to have been actuated by that desire, and he thought on the whole that the Committee, us it now stood on the paper, was open to little or no objection whatever. He, however, thought the sugges- tion ut the Honourable and Gallant Member for Liuculn was well worthy of attention, and if any Gentleman could be placed on the Committee who could represent the feelings of the army and the navy on the subject of the iiicuwee tax, it was extremely advisable to do so —(Hear, hear.) Mr. FRESHFIELD moved as an amendment that the order for the appointment of the Committee be read fur the purpose of being discharged. Mr. DISRAELI said the Chancell it of the Exche quer had referred to an opinion he (Mr. Disraeli) had expressed the other night, but he had not quote d his observations quite accurately. What he had stated was, that in voting for the motion of the Hon. Member fur Montrose he did not vote ter the Committee, but that understanding it was the feeling of the Government, and .hat the sense of the House was in favour of the mo tion, he gave his assent to the Committee; and as he had always objected to sub j ects of importance being dis cussed and (fielded upon false pretence. he had egreed to vote fur the motion. But the Chancellor of the Ex chequer misunderstood him when he stated that he bad agreed with the Hun. Member for Montrose that the subject at issue was one which ought to be referred to a Committee. Whet be did say was, this, the Lev was susceptible of modification in schedule A and in schedule B; that as it had been modified in schedule A by the Government, it was not impos.ible but it might be modi fied also in schedule B—(Lau e hter)—that be had there lore, not objected to inquiry, but that he still hoped that modification would be stlected by her MajeaY 6 Minis' tent. If the Hon. Gentleman, therefore, still wiehed . for a Committee, though he (Mr. Di s raeli) bad no par_tcula r desire on the point, ho sh ou ld g ive him his vote. But he appealed to the Hon. Member to consider all the circum stances by which the question was surrounded. They were on the eve of the holidays—a month been lost in the matter; it was not possible , in the pre. had alread y t bable period that the session wouldlast, o investig ate thoroughly the whole subject, and the Committee would have to make an incomplete report, or to by re-app o i nted again, and again begin their labours in the next session. Teen the materiels of the Committee were not of th a t nature to give satisfection to the House. N one of the authors of the law, for instance, were on i t. Irre spective of their high positions, it would be the greatest some of those point ot stsfactien, t h ave advantage, io gentlemen who passed the Act of 1842 on the Com mittee. There were other Hon. Member s also whose serv i ces were not called into ri quiseien, whom it would be equally satisfactory to see on the Committee. He ( Disraeli) put It to the Hun. Aletnber, therefo,e, whether—commencieg at the fae-euil of the session, with a Committee composed of such ' uwaiisfactory materials —there was any hope of Cowin to a fair conclusion on the subject of his inquiry ? Hon. Gentleman would give the emraeftbterre moreh e t trust considera tionunder the circumsta nces, Mr. AGLIONBy protested against what he held to be a frauduy ti n motion lelnoue!e and on t h e pu bl ic. H e d i d not speak of any in particular, but of the prucei d ings of that House. The majority had limited the in come-tax to One year, and that ma j or i ty was compose d of those H on. Gentlemen opposite who were of opinion that an inquiry might be cv of mak i ng the properly ent ere d i n t o , w ith the vie tax more equal. A large number of Members, however, would not have supported the motion for limiting the tax to one year, but, on the contrary, would have supp,rnd its further continuance tor three years, only that they believed there would be an inquiry as to its operation. The motion fur limiting the tax to a year had been carried on the lot of May, and on the Bth 165 i, Sir E N. BUX I'ON pre., nted several petitions against the Eccit siastica,t Titles and the Religious Houses Bill. Mr. SPOONER presented a petition from Mr. Ed syho was recently committed to Newgate in con sequence of his conduct before the St. Albans' Election Committee, stating that his affairs were going to ruin, arid expressing the deepest sorrow and contrition at the offence ho had committed. The petitioner threw himself on the mercy of the HousP, and prayed to be discharged. The lion. Member gave notice that to morrow he would move that the petition be printed with the votes, with the vi ew o f su b mitting a motion to the House that Edwards be discharged on Friday next. Viscount NEWPORT presented a petition from cer tain Peers for an alteration in the oath of supremacy. Mr. HUME presented a petition from a place in Scot land against the Scottish Sewerage Bill. Mr. SCULLY presented a petition from a place in Ireland against the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill. Viscount CAS FLERZAGIi presented a similar peti tion from the Town Commissioners of Newry. Mr. BRIGHT presented a petition from Manchester against the Negium Donum. ME IitOPOLI VAN POOR'S RATE. Mr. SCHOLSFIELD moved fir a return of the rate i❑ the pound !vied for the relief of the poor in each year from 1831 to 1850 inclusive, on the annual value of pro perty rated for the metropolitan parishes of St. Luke's, Middlesex, Shoreduch, Clerkenwell, St. Marylebone, Hackney Union, St. Pancras with Hampstead, St. Martin-in-the-Fields, Islin K-nsington, St. George Hanover-square, and Bermondsey.—'Agreed to. LOSS OF THE ORION. Mr. HUME moved that there be laid before this Howe, by the Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses (as supplement of the return No. 288, ordered to be printed 14th May, 1851), a return of copies of all cor reapondenc, between the Commissioners a , ,d the Trea sury, or the Admiralty, and of the documents therein referred to. in regard to Portpatrick Harbour Light, or in regard to the loss of the " Orion" steamer. Agreed to. DINGLE UNION. Mr. REYNOLDS rose to ask the Chief Secretary for Ireland, if the It-vpr,nd Mr. 14 , -wis and the R-verend Mr. Goodma❑, the Protestant ehsplaius of the Dingle Union Workliou,e, have been dismissed by the board of guardians, and if sn, whether th it removal has been netioned by the Poor-law Commissioners. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he had no reason to be lieve that the board of guardians had removtid either of the gentlemen. of May the motion for a Committee had been put carried. F or the House, therefore, t o r e scind d oiet re.r e in an indi rect t orn was a dangerous operation. so, he (Jr.' Agl ion b y ) gave eetete that in case the it res " lotion to reseitid the vote of inquiry into the income -t! ! was carried, h e should move the extension of the t w three years. • Mr. lIUME explained th e course h e b a d t a ken iti t he ee , construction of the Cernmittee. On the House decirrlbl that th.re sho u ld b e a C ommittee he bed put down on ' list only tour n ames on h is own side; and these were l o, names of Hon. Gentlemen who had brought forward 90 . stautive motions on th e su bj e c t of the i ncome • tax i n 13 4 ' i He had then crosse d over to the Hon. Mem b e r r„ Buckinghamshire, and showing him his list, asked bits . ; recommend four of his friends, which was t ione--.T i h t, Hon. Member being himself the fourth, only at his ( . ' e , Hume'.) express solicitation. He (Nlr. Hume) l u, v, went to the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for &P o i and asked bun to serve on the Cemmittee with tbre:L l his political friends of the Peel Administration, but tool Right Hon. Baronet declined to du so. He (Nlr. On, after this went to the Chancellor of the Exchequer: e nd pressing a wish to have Mr. Goulburn, Mr. Cardweile . s e Mr. F. Peel. These formed eleven Members if chose to serve. The members recommended by the Chancellor or the Exchequer were put on, with t he ception of Colonel Rawdon, Tne Hon. Member eluded by st at i ng t h at h e would cast the onus o f the v° it• ter on the Government, by pressing his motion. _ met Mr. DEEDEi h a d supported the motion on a Pdis. occasion to limit h e i ncome-tax to one 3 ear, o n the l tinct understanding that a Committee shard be D g e pointed t o i nqu i re into the operation of that 191; could not, therefore, vote for the am en dment. 11 ,, ro t jetted, however, to tho way in which the landed iht was represented ou the Committee, though be admittede the composition of that body was better then last 7, the He (Mr. Dee des) objected altogether, however, to two Members for the West Riding being on the _ 'l /0 , reittee, and he could not, moreover, see why th e e Member for the Q u . en ' s County was pl ace d upon 14 er c e p, w i t h t h e u l terior object of extending the , jeco d o. ed tax to Irelaed.—(Cheers). Be, therefore, recoannec the Hon Member for Montrose to suspend for the Pre' sent the further nomi nation of the Committee, Wit" , . view to meet the obje cuous that existed against i t s cco positien. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said that the Hon. ''w for Montros e fo rgot one step , lie gave notice ° f hie motion on one night, and on the next he carried s turn which had its its terms been changed. The 11 : c o o e teerefore, had no oppo r t unit y of coming to a duels° the question. weak! Lord J. RUSSELL sa i d the Hon. Gentleman e D es have prevented some difficulty had he is the first il e st aclepted the suggestion of the Hon. Member for the be ting by moving fer a me chficatiou of the to, I thea wished to have a modification. The House wound o ' have known what they were about, and the Hoe. ,i e si bers could then have voted for the proposition or °e ° - i bt it. The vote for a Committee of Inquiry the other r i g re a d been aupperted ;he 230 Members who Vie , r b e rs favour on different grounds. No wonder, then , s he should be a m i sun d erseseaing on the matter. Altertbet vote had been come to t h e other evening, he stated bi Government we re wi lli ng. to consent to an inquiryleere Committee int o t h e tax , an d that if a Committee appointed it s h ou ld b e as far as possible constitute d o p rains taken f rom b ot h s i des of the House tosser s by with subjects r f finance, and who would be seeeile‘t the Committee as authorities on that subject. be , was one way in which he wished the Committee t o o t appointed. But th e H onourable Gentleman bad oe succeeded in his object. In the first place, ding certain gentle men b e l ong i ng to the Cabinet and bold office under th e l ate S ir R obert Peel had not cone's be to act on the C ommittee. The Committee would O such a Committ ee as h e could approve of. Then t h ee, was one name on the Committee to which he should cidedly object--it was the name of the Chancellor ef the Exchequer. He did not thiuk the Chancellor eh, rib e Exch• quer o ug h t to go into a Committee of that kis s with two or t h ree gentlemen who might be of his eiP/3i to to contest such points with the other Members, s rne . whetor er thereerw h ehould be a mo difi cat i on of the i DeC- a cje tax, othise. Such propositions ought to be o ' 6 . by the Chancellor of the Exchequer hinsself in C c- a l mittee. Ther e was on l y one thing which remained, 6-61 that was—if the Hon. Member for Montrose did pre ce- e to propose such a Committee, he should tune to °la agreement previ ous l y w i th other Hon. Members, fir might be able to me e t t h e arguments relative to the lb, herent detects of th e . tax b eing, as he bad been tol d b e had once stated, u nequa l , vexatious, and fraudulent. could not vote for the amendment. Mr. HENLEY said it was hard for the Hon. Mem b er for Cock' rmeuth to tak e th e course he had taken. j'd House was placed i n t hi s position—the Noble Lord 56,i,1 the Committee cou ld not b e constituted in the way could have desired; therefore, let the Hon. Member wicl,l4 Montrose hav e hi s C ommittee to work its own will. He had no doubt of the ability of the Hon. n.l e •"„ ' ber, and the s t rong case the Committee would preseej but he considered such a Committee would not commas the confidence of the country, and therefore he WC',t vote for the amendment. Mr. HORS MAN said many similar motions had be e: made with vario us f ortune. But ho far from the prete lt embarrassment having arisen from the views of extrefee parties in that House, the truth was, that the anbarta s ; went had been ca use d b y G overnment relying with to o touch confidenc e on t h e votes of their usual supporter " He considered the Hen. Member for Montrose bad taker the only course that was suited to the nature of the o °' casion. The Hon. Member's object was not to make the tax perpetual, but to make it more equal. Thor° were various epitrions as to the tax—his was, that th e 'ax, as an exp eriment, h ad been attended with great au' ventage. sir. T. BARING said the country would never permit the tax to be continued without a Committee of Inquiry' He could n o r vote ;or the amendment. He could rot consent to shelve the inquiry unless some security wer e given that the tax would not be made a permanent tea' Mr. BOOKER said no one on his side of the "louse would desire to give a shock to public credit by with drawing the t ax at a t i me when the financial position O f the country might re quire it; but he certainly did tOt approve of the proposal for making it permanent. 0 1 approved of it in the original sense, and for the origins, purpose for which it was proposed. Mr. COBDEN had voted against the motion of the Hon. Member fUr Montrose rho other night. because the motion was calculated, in the form in which it veal made, to obtain votes from Hon. Gentlemen opposite Whf did riot entert a in t h e same vices on the question .which he did. He. hail made appeals, private and public, t° the Honourable, Member against bringing forward hie mourn in its oliginal form. He assumed that a Corn' mittee would be granted, but he never expected any good from the Committee as far as the 013 8 year was concerned, because be was satisfied a majority would be decidedly opposed to such a modification. Be wished to vote on the subject of modification. Th e , Hon. Member for C oe k ermouth said if so, that weak' oe assenting to the principle; now he wanted to let the country see what the House said and what the House did on this question. He was of opinion the House and the country were labouriug under tt delusion on the subject. The press had led the country to believe that the House debited credit fur the honesty and bona fidg character of the decision which had been arrived at. He had voted against the Hon. Member when the pro posal was to limit the tax for one year; but be c o uld not vote against the proposition for a Committee. 11 ° confessed he would prefer to have the tax, bad as it We°. for three years rather that, one year, because be did not look at the question per se: ho looked at it with reference to the whole of the taxation and the necessities of the revenue. If the income-tax was bad, other taxes were worse, and pressed more injuriously on the people. He should vote in good faith for the motion, although some Hon. Member said it was impossible to turn round, and, in the face of the country, vote in the teeth of the former vote. Mr. HERMES was understood to say he would vote for the amendment. The House then divided— Fur the amendment 94 Fcr the motion Majority against the amendment... 193 -- 99 On our re-admission to the gallery we found Mr. HORSeIAN inquiring when the nomination of the Committee would take place ? Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to name Friday. Mr. MONSELL wished to know whether the Ecclesi astical Titles Bill would be proceeded with on Friday If so, it would prevent many Hon. Members from leo mg town j .oHn RUSSELL u o d n ott must f douaoieyols,d.L)s withea reason conseuc alleged b yHon. M. mbar. daythoen SIASTIC teL TITLES ASSUMPIONBaBcieIIIIuII the Eof ctehr., ' Friday. e rd u The House then went into Committee on this Bill. Mr. WALPOLE rose, and said he day to stat e t h e course he int en d e d to pursue with re spect to c erta i n ilmflidments he had to propose. lie N wished t o support the promised on Fri' oble Lord as far as he could it! his Bill, and at the same time he wished to make the Bill as compl t o as he could, and as effectual for its purpose, before it passed through to en Committee. He had iu copse. quce given not i ce of amendme nte, which he considered be all right in themselves, anti some absolutely essene tial for the success of the Bill. Feeling this he said that he could not consent to give way as to any amendments on which he laslieved dep e nd e d t h e success of the mea. s ure; nor could he give way in any amendment, utiless slime strong countervailing reason was shown to induce him to do it. Two reasons had been assigned why he ought not to press his amendments. One was, that the declaratory clause, or, as the Hon. Member for Dublin said, the Walpole clause, had given almost all he asked for, in effec —and, therefore, it was unnecessary to press it. The other reason had been intimated by the Noble Lord opposite, that Members friendly to the passing of the Bill, when they saw the various delays and impedi ments to the progress of the Bill that had taken place, would be of opwion that the friends of the Bill ought not to add to the delay or increase these i mpediments. He was strongly of opinion that these reasons ought to have great weierec with him—so much so, that be theught it right, having a little leisure to spare from business in which he was otherwise occupied, to reconsider the whole subject, and , having done so, to state to the Committee what amendments he would press and what amendments he would waive. Having obtained the declaratory clause, which, to his mind, was of more imp, rtance than anything else in the I e should propose nothing but Bill, and fearing to impede the progress of the fill t w h n r a o t ug a h 'as C re o a m ll ra y i e tt s e s e e ' uti a l to the proper working of the Bill. He thought three things were essential. In the first place, he considered it was absolutely essential to the proper working of the Bill that it should clearly lay down, define, and point out the constitutional principles on which the ll.,use proceeded. Since the de bate an friday last he was more convinced than ever that the supposed ambiguity existed Inure in the minds of it/ opponents than in the clause itself. He was sure no ambiguity would be found is the clause if it were re• ■ I 80 WE pe Chi am, the ren afoi ma 11111 C har belt] Lea s bi the araP Hot atio 11,11 E pon , kne ano wer first Hot He Ma: gr!! ohs'