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The SPEAKER directed the Right Hon. Gentleman to bring it up, and Hon. Members having uncovered— The SPEAKER read the message from her Majesty, which Was to the following effect : That her Majesty, feeling desirous of contesting a signal mark other favour on the Right H on . Si r H. Pottfilker,G. C. 8., for the zeal, ability, and temper displayed by him as het Majesty's Plenipotentiary in China, in concluding a treaty of commerce with the Emperor of China, recommends the Commons to bestow a pension of 1,5001. a year upon him during his natural life."—(Load cheers.) Sir R. PEEL moved that the most gracious Message from her Majesty be taken into consideration on Monday next.— (Cheers ). Dr. BOWRING wished to inquire whether the Govern ment had received any official accounts of the destruction of persons and property in Syria, and whether any measures have been taken to put a stop to these outrages? Sir R. PEEL said her Majesty's Government deeply re gretted the continuance of those unfortunate disturbarces, and the last natial information stated that the representatives of the Film Powers had met in Beyront, and had made a stung representation to the Pacha respecting these dis turbances, and the urgent necessity of suppressing them. Colonel Rose had done his utmost to put down these riots between the Drusees and Maronites, and he was happy to say they were not so general as they had been. These men were much 'pressed, and nearly 600 of them —men, women, and children—had passed for nearly 40 miles through a dfficult country. They had been accompanied by three of the chiefs, and it was owing to their presence that these 575 men, women, and children. bad been protected through a hostile country from so many evils, and possibly from massacre itself. The subject then dropped. Sir CH ARLES NAPIER wished to ask the Right lion. Baronet at the head of the Government,iwhether any compensa tion had been awarded to those officers who had suffered at the siege of Acre? is'lr R. PEEL said that he ()Quid hardly at present answer the Gallant Officer's inquiry so precisely as he desired, but there had been a specified sum set apart for this especial pur se by the Turkish Government, but to what extent it was to be applied in the way of compensation—he hoped it was to be applied in the way of eompensation—he could not say. Some amount had been set apart for this purpose before, and he trusted that this sum would be added as an additional com pensation. SPANISH SLAVE SUGAR. Mr. LABOUCHERE wished to put a question to the Right Hon. Baronet, with regard to a rumour which had been very prevalent for the last few days, and which had excited considerable interest amongst the persons engaged in the sugar trade in this country. The rumour was to this effect—that the Government of Spain have claimed admission for sugar the growth of their colonies, Cuba and Porto Rico for instance, on the terms of the most favoured nations. He wished expressly to guard himself against giving any opinion on the subject, and would merely ask whether, under the circumstances of the case, the Right Hon. Baronet was prepared to say that such claim had been made ; and if so what course the Government had taken ? Sir It. PEEL said that a claim had been preferred by the Spanish Minister, on the part of the Government, founded on the treaty of Utrecht, of the right to introduce sugar the produce of the Spanish colonies, into this country. That re prom:mita:l was made a short time since, and no answer had yet been retrzned ; but whenever the answer was returned, he shoull not have the slightest objection to lay on the table of the House the communication which had been made by the Spanish Government to this country, together with the an swer . The Right Hon. Gentleman, who had exercised a prudent re serve on his own part, would excuse him (Sir R. Peel) if he declined at present making any further stateonent on the subject. NEW ZEALAND. Mr. CHARLES BULLER was anxious to know whether the Right Hon. Baronet would oppose his resolutions going into Committee. Sir R. PEEL had no hesitation in answering the question of the Hon. Member for Liskeard. He should certainly feel it his duty to oppeee ithis resolutions going into Committee; bat the Noble Lord the Member for London had, the other night, introduced a series of resolutions much more nearly affecting the trade of the country, to the whole Nouse, and he would recommend the same course to the Hon. Member opposite. Mr. C. BULLER would certainly avail himself of the suggestion, and amend his notice. SLAVE TRADE. Mr. , FORSTER inquired of the First Lord of the Treasury, whether there were any documents in possession of the Go vernment, confirmatory of the participation, direct or indirect, of British subjects in the slave trade, charged in Mr. Tyler's message to Congress, dated 12th February, 1845 ; and if so, whether there was any objection to the production of such documents. Also, whether Government could produce to the House the names and descriptions of any of those vessels alleged by Mr. Tyler t• have been laden with goods for the slave trade, by or on behalf of any British capitalist, merchant, or manu facturer, in the United Kingdom, or in any other manner, as alleged In the said message? Sir R. PEEL said that the question had been put to him some weeks since by an Hon. Member on the opposite side of the House. With respect to the message sent. by the President of the United Stater to Congress, it stated that subjects of the United States carried on the slave trade, and it stated also that the President thought there were subjects of this country who were concerned in the same trade. He (Sir R. Peel) said he was not prepared to deny the fact mentioned by the President of the United States, and the law of this country should be enforced to put a stop to the nefarious traffic as far as practi cable. The massage also declared that the laws of America should be put in force to abolish the trade. The Hon. Gen tleman wee already in possession of every particular connected with the subject, as they were included in the document at tached t• the President's message. The slaves brought to Monte Video, and some other places on the South American coast, were the property of Americans, and they were usually transhipped to Rio for disposal. All the penalties prescribed by the treaty would be rigidly enforced. If in the case which was near ender investigation, it should be proved that British subjects were engaged in the slave-trade they would certainly suffer the penalties.—( Hear. ) Itir. FORSTER wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet whether he was not aware that British naval officers were ac cused of conniving at thetraffic? Sir R. PREL said that he did not think there was any ground for such an accusation; but an inquiry was going on in reference to the subject. CHANNEL ISLANDS. Mr. ROEBUCK wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentle man the Secretary for the Home Department whether, from circumstances which had come to his knowledge, he was of opinion that the particular state of the Channel Islands called for inquiry, and whether it was his intention to recommend her Majesty to institute such inquiry? Sir JAMES GRAHAM had no difficulty in telling the Hon. and Learned Gentleman that, from circumstances which had come to his knowledge respecting the Channel Islands, he was convinced that some inquiry was necessary. He was not, however, prepared to recommend such an inquiry as that which had been suggested by the Hon. and Learned Gen. tleman on a former oceasion. He had thought it his duty to address a letter officially to the Lord President of the Council, recommending the Council to institute an inquiry into the present state of the criminal law of the Channel Islands, and the mode in which that law was administered; and also the constitution of the tribunals for its execution. In answer to a question from Sir R. INGLIS, Mr. ROEBUCK said, that after the intimation which he had As& rewired from the Right Hon. Gentleman, he did not think it necessary to go on with the motion of which he had previously given notice. PRIVILEGE. Lord .rOI-IN RUSSELL inquired what would be the order of proeeeding with the business on Monday. He also inquired when the report from the Committee of Privileges would be ready to be presented to the House ? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that in consequence of the absence from the Committee, through ill-health, of the Right Hon. Member for Montgomer3shire (Mr. Wynne) the report would net be ready by Monday, and as it was desirable thit the discussion on this subject should not come on until the Hoes• was in possession of the report, he would suggest that the debate should be adjourned from Monday to Thursday week. Sir R. PEEL said be should take the Colleges (Ireland) Bill on Monday. LAW OF LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND.) Mr. BELLEW wished to know when the Right Hon. Gentleman expected the Bill upon this subject would reach that House ?—( Laughter. ) Sir R. PEEL said it was very difficult to give information respecting Bits in that House, and he could not pretend to give information as to the progress of a Bill in another place.—(Laughter.) Lord J. RUSSELL—Perhaps the Right Hon. Gentleman eould say what Bills he will proceed with and what he intended to drop.—(Laughter.) The motion for the adjournment of the House to Monday was then agreed to. LIGHT GOLD. Mr. HUME inquired if it was the intention of the Govern ment to appoint a place where the public could exchange light gold ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that he was not proi'ared to adopt the suggestion of the Hon. Aleinber for Montrose. ACADENIIC AL INSTITUTIONS.—(IRELAND.) . . •. . On the question b e i ng p ut f or th e House going into Com mittee upon thegrant for the Academical Institutions (Ireland), Sir J. GRAHAM was understood to say that on Monday nest he should take occasion to lay on the table of the House certain proposition. relative to the mode of effecting and appor tioning the funds necessary for the sapport of those colleges. Sir R. INGLIS, while intending to oppose every proposition likely to further a measure he regarded with such distrust, would not object to any arrangement conducive to the con vknienee of the House. Me. W. SMITH O'BRIEN obser red that he did not rise to offer any opposition to the measure then before the House, but wished to address a few words on a question regarded with such interest by the Irish people, for lie believed he was safe in un dertaking to represent the feelings and the wishes of the people of Ireland on that subject. The Irish people consi dered the subject of academical education one well worthy the attention of the Legislature, and they were unanimous in think ing that a portion of the Irish revenue—(such was the expres sion of the Hon. Member)—should be applied to the endow went of those institutions, but a difference of opinion existed as to whether those institutions should he founded on a system of milted or of separate education. But at the same time he was justified in saying, though himself art advocate for mixed education, that those favourable to separate education would not be content with the Bill brought forward by the Government. unless certain modifications were introduced in ieontaining th e recommen d at i ons i n t h e memor i a l o f th e Catholic Bishops of Ireland. Upon one point the public opi nion of Ireland was unanimous—that some provision for the religions instrnetion of the students ought to be made in this Bill. The clergy of all denominations in Ireland were agreed upon this head.—( Hear. hear.) By the course which the Right Hon. Gentleman pursued—not letting the public know what amendme n t s be idtended to introduce—the I r i s h p eo pl e would, in th e interim, have no opportunity o f ex p ress i ng t h e i r opinion regarding He would ven t ure to f orewarn the Government, aid teelilLth em that if they did not introduce amendmenta satisfactory to the I r i s h c l ergy, t h e i r Bill must He th become " ht a deed letter ," and it s o bj ects b e entirely frustrated. oug the Government should have consulted the Roman Catholic clergy, and that, by not doi ng so , t h ey were guilty of disrespect t owar d s that yen-rated body. H e t h oug h t he ex pressed the °p i n i on of thelaityof Irel a nd w h en h e objected to the I Otti obtus e o f the Bill, which3naeted th at t h ose professors Bilotti(' be appointed by the heard any one express an opinion fa o v v e ern a m hl e e n t t ; the ' e el a h u a s d e ans not n was the intention of now stood. Many were of opinion that i make those the Government, by engrossing the patr i o t institutions a job. He need not tell the Right to; man that the Government. did not the Irish people, who, after centui les of Governmthe ent t of pos;egs p ion. Gentle_ were naturally ,jealous of Government patronage, in" 'l and suspicious of those whom the Government appointed. He should very seriously object to entrusting these powers to the Government. And if he were to he asked why h e should object in this way, he would reply by pointing at the way in which the members of the present Government had acted towards the Government of the Marquis of Normanby. The Government had not hesitated to use unscrupulously the power which they then possoved of thwarting the measures wh;ch had been proposed by their pre . deee , ,sors, and the powers which they bad used he should elann for himself. This measure was calculated to bear very largely on the intellect of the country, and he should therefore be very careful how he gave his assent to so important a principle. lie had been &member of the Committee by which the resolutions were passed from which emanated the academical scheme for Ire land. He had seconded the chief of those resolutions. His had earnestly hoped, for many years, to see in the district with which he was connected, one of those great seminaries esta blished. But great as was his desire, he would rather waive all expectation of this advantage for years to come, rather than see the measure which the Government had proposed carried, so much did he feel that it would be emp'oying a power such as that which they had assumed in a manner most in 'urious to the country. Parliament were about to spend the money of freland—( Hear, hear, " the money of Ireland l") — the money of Ireland, in the establishment and endowment of institutions which were opposed by the feelings of the greater portion of the whole community. Mr. COLQUHOUN said that he should have said but little on this question had it not been for the last words which the Hon. Member had uttered. This question had been sub jected to discussion during several weeks, and he had now come with his single protest against a measure which had received the approval of the community at large, and yet stating that he is the representative of the whole people of Ireland. The Hon. Member desired this measure for his own neighbour hood, and stated that he was a member of the Committee over which the Hun. Member for Waterford (Mr. Wyse) had presided, and by whom the resolution for those very institu tions had been passed ; and yet he came down to the House at this the last moment to set aside the resolution to which he was a party. He came to set aside the Hon. Member for Waterford, and all the other Members of the Committee on this measure, and assuming the position of dictator, or, rather, deputy dictator—( Hear, hear, and a laugh )--sought to undo all that hitherto had been done. He came fresh from the Conciliation-hall, where, having abandoned his duty in that House, he had aided in promoting that most mischievous agi tation—( Hear, hear)—which was destroying the capital, and uprooting the best interests of the country.—( Hear, bear. ) Ho (Mr. Colquhoun) would now turn to the question which he desired to put to the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Home Department. He referred only to one clause, and he did not desire to raise a debate upon it. The 23d clause stated that " no student of each or any of the acade mical institutions should be compelled by any rule of the col lege to attend any theological lecture or religious instruction other than those which should be approved of by his parents or guardians." He (Mr. Colquhoun) could not clearly un derstand this, and there was a doubt whether the students at these institutions should attend any religious instruction what ever or not. Sir J. GRAHAM said that the words had been inserted with a view to make the clause as precise as possible. There would be no regulation imposed by the Bill, for the object was to render education as free as possible. But it was quite open to the professors and other authorities of the college to make bye-laws which would be of force after they had been submitted to the Queen. So that each college could make its own re gulations. Mr. M. GIBSON protested against any Member presuming to blame another for taking the particular course which he thought best. To his view this was the most important stage of the Bill, and the one in which he individually as a Member was most deeply interested. What was it they were going to vote away the money of the country for—the establishment of these colleges? We are not going to appropriate the money of any particular party. We are going to appropriate the money belonging to the general revenue of the United King dom.—( Hear.) He was beset by various opinions from dif ferent parties on the subject of collegiate education. He had been told by several individuals that it was very questionable whether the endowment of these colleges would accomplish the object which was contemplated. It had been contended that these corporate establishments were places in which ignorance would be taught and wickedness inculcated, rather than encou • ragement being given k learning and morality; but he would hope, that from these establishments the advancement of learn ing might be - expected ; there was, however, one point in the measure which appeared to him susceptible of improvement. It was not sufficient to put professors into the different chairs of the colleges with independent incomes, without some gentleman would move stringent inducements to exert them selves for the good of their pupils. He considered that no man would make any strenuous exertions without being necessarily compelled to do so ; and therefore he thought that professors, with comfortable incomes, who were t o t a ll y independent of support from their pupils, were not the persons who were likely to he very active in promoting learn ing among them. He would have wished to have seen them provided partly with salaries from the State, and partly with emoluments to be derived from their pupils. 'W ithout this accelerative agent to exertion, they would relapse into mere Oxford and Cambridge professors. They would only remember they had their salaries to receive, and would forget that they had a duty to perform.—( Hear hear.) There was one point in the College Bill, which provided that the Civil Government of the coutry should interfere with the administration of the institutions. If the Civil Government should persevere in making this endowment the mere instrument of priestly power and domination, it would never be possible to achieve any per manent improvement in the progress of learning. Priests ought not to be allowed to interfere with the teaching of science, mathematical philosophy, and secular things. There were cases where they could administer their duties—there were cases in which their consolation might be given. There were many Honourable Gentlemen who were adverse to him in opinion, and his opinion was that a priest or a clergyman was the last man, instead of the first, who ought to control educa tion. Knowing the part that his HON. Friend had taken in the question of education,he regretted to hear him give counte nance to that unfortunate position that they could not teach secular education without mixing it at the same time with religions instruction. He could not see why they could not teach mathematics or astronomy without making it the medium of conveying religious truth. He regretted that he had occu pied the time of the House so long, and he sat down expressing his desire to exclude all religious interference with secular education. Mr. VERNON SMITH wished to know from the Speaker, whether giving his support to the resolution on the present oc casion would preclude him from opposing it at a future period? Sir JAMES GRAHAM thought that it did not preclude any Gentleman from rejecting any clause introduced into the Bill in Committee. He only knew that no larger sum from the Consolidated Fund could be proposed. He did not know whether there was any power of reducing it. The SPEAKER said that it depended entirely en the Com mittee on the Bill to reject it or not. The Committee on the Bill might either reject the clause or reduce the amount. Mr. ROEBUCK thought that this was peculiarly a ques tion for the House of Commons, and it ought not to be allowed to go over as merely private. It could not be doubted for a moment that that was the time for discussing the principle of the Bill. If he wanted to discover the wisdom of the House, he found it on the present occasion, for he found a proposition put, which, if allowed to pass in silence, might be turned against them afterwards, and it might he said that they had allowed it. He took it that religion should be mixed tip with education as well as anything else. It was one of the means by which men's minds might be directed to action. A great deal had been said in Conciliation-hall about the Bill, and about the conduct of that House in regard to Ireland generally. The Hon. Member for Limerick (Mr. Smith O'Brien) had ac cused that Howe of neglecting the interests of Ireland.• (Hear, hear.) He had, in his addresses at Conciliation-ha , accused it of endeavouring, through the instrumentality of that Bill, to corrupt the intellect of Ireland. How this was to he done, however, he (Mr. Roebuck) could not conceive, unless the teaching of scientific knowledge was to do that.— Hear, hear.) It was proposed to teach the students surgery and mathematics, and also, he presumed, chemistry, geology, and arithmetic; yet this, according to the language of the Hon. Member, was to corrupt the intellect of Ire land.—( Loud cries of " Hear, hear." and cheers.) Such a proposition could only be made as a clap-trap to attract vulgar observation, and by those who were afraid that good measures would put an end to their selfish agitation.—(Hear, hear.) Those who paid attention to the proceedings of these parties would see what value was to be attached to the words of men who asserted that the measure was intended to corrupt the intellect of Ireland. This was a true sample of the assertions made use of against the people of England, and against that House. This cry was raised against those who supported this and similar measures in that House, at a time when, in a spirit of just and honourable conciliation, they were endeavouring to do what, he admitted, had not previously been done—to act justly and fairly towards Ireland.--( Hear, hear. ) The Members of that House bad laid aside religious feelings, and gone in the face of their constituencies in supporting mea sures for Ireland ; and yet, in the face of this, they were met by a charge of improper motives—(Hear, hear) — that of attempting to corrupt the intellect of the people of that country.—( Hear, hear.) He would ask what could be the state of mind, what the intellects of those parties who could have suggested such a proposition ?—( Hear, hear, and cheers.) He had the highest respect for those Irish Members who attended that House to assist them in the examination and discussion of questions affecting Ireland. He honoured them for the great sacrifice they had made in doing their duty notwithstanding the brow-beating and intimidation that had been resorted to, to deter them—but ho could not understand what it was that took certain Members at one moment to the stage of Conciliation-hall,to excite national animosities, narrow minded bigotry, vulgar prejudice, and to spit their venom be cause they thought themselves secure, attributing every im proper motive to that House, and then coming over here to repeat the trash which had gained them so much approbation there.—( Loud cheers.) This was a course of proceeding which he could not understand, and which it would be hard to justify. He could not understand what the Hon. Member to whom he referred was after, unless it were to excite the base passions of the vulgar, for the purpose of selfish gain.—( Hear, hear.) On no other plea could he understand the proceedings at Concilia tion-hall, for hej could nut see the necessity of such proceed ings for the freedom of the people. He had shown no want of respect for the people of Ireland in the observations he had made, as he was sure the people of that country would under stand the measure by and by. He was willing to rest the mea sure on the power of truth. Let them do their duty, and their duty it was, without fear or affection, to educate the people of Ireland—and a large body of the people of that country would, he was sure, respond to them in a becoming spirit. If they acted from a sincere desire to do justly towards the Irish people, and would in a spirit of kindness, toleration, and goodness, bring forward such measures as the present, they would not only secure their hearty sympathy, but soon witness the last throes of an expiring faction—( Loud cheers.) Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN said that, considering the very per sonal remarks that had been made upon himself, he wished to say a few words in vindication. The Hon. Member had brought to bear on the subject the concentrated venom of three months. Sir R. INGLIS rose to order. He did not object to the Hon. Member vindicating himself, but considered the House ought not to permit a personal attack on the Hon. and Learred Member who had just spoken. An opportunity ought certainly to be allowed the Hon. M em b er f or Li mer i c k o f de- fending himself, but he (Sir R. Inglis) thought the present personal altercation should not he allowed.—( Hear. ) Mr. OSBORNE would call the House to the question. The Hon. Member for Limerick had no doubt acted as he had done from the want of practice in speaking in that house, and the mode of address he had acquired at Conciliation-hall.—( Hear, and laughter.) The Hon. Member was proceeding to address the House on the question, when he was interrupted by Sir H. BARRON, who rose to a question of order. If the question of order was disposed of, then the Hon. Member for Limerick was in possession of the House, and no other had a right to speak until that Hon. Gentleman had given his ex planation.—(Cries of " Order" and " Chair, chair." The SPEAKER said as the House was not in Committee, the Hon. Gentleman ( 51r. S. O'Brien) had _a right to speak in explanation, but had no right to reply. lie considered that the lion. Member for Oxford (Sir Robert Inglis) was jus tified in calling the lion. Member for Limerick to order. ‘.. Sir R. INaLIS said he had only called the lion. Gentle man to ord er b ecause t h e course h e was ta k ing was not a vin dication of himself, but a personal attack upon another party. Lord J. MANNERS moved that the Hon. Member for Limerick be heat d by the House. Sir J. GRAHAM suggested a course which would get rid of the difficulties. If the House was allowed to go into Com mittee, the Hon. Member for Limerick would then have an opportunity given him of making any statement he might think prope r to offer.—( Hear.) Mr. OSBORNE intimated that be would postpone his mo tion relative to Trinity College till Monday next, as it could not be brought forward Conveniently at the present time. After a few wor d s f rom Lord J. RUSSELL, the Home itself resolved into a Committee of Supply. Sir J. GRAHAM then moved that the sum of 1 00,0001, be appropriated out of the C onso lid ated Fund for the fou n ding and establishing academical institutions in Ireland, and 21,0004 from the same fund for the annual endowment of the said in stitutions. Ou the Question being put, Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN said the Hotue had listened, not only with contentment, but approbation, to invectives couched in the most insulting terms, and directed against his person alone. The Hon. and Learned Member to whom he referred, had had the satisfaction of discharging his accumulated venom of three months' concoction. The same gentleman hod also, about three months ago, made an attack on himself (Mr. S. O'Brien), having taken him to task for what ho had stated in Conciliation-hall, and at a time when he was not there to defend himself. He (Mr. S. O'Brien) had not come there with a prepared reply to the attacks of that Hon. and Learned Gentle man, but he was certain that in that House be had always maintained the character of a gentleman—(Cheers)—and never receded from the expression of his opinions of a bad mea sure, or shrunk from the declaration of his sentiments ; yet, in doing so, he had always avoided doing anything that would give pain to individuals.—( Hear, hear.) That though he had never uttered anything that could give pain, he could not, on the present occasion, avoid expressing his unutterable contempt and intense pity for the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had made the attack. Sir It INGLIS asked whether any Member of that House was justified in using such an expression as " unutterable con tempt" towards another Member ? The elements of that ex pression were such as 4pplied to a person, and could not he admitted. Mr. S. O'BRIEN would settle the matter by abandoning the expressions he had used. He had no personal enmity to any Member of the House, or to the Hon. and Learned Mem ber for Bath. But at the same time he would say, that the words which that Hon. and Learned Gentleman had attributed to him (Mr. S. O'Brien), as having been spoken at Concilia tion-hall, had never been uttered by him there. The lan guage he had made use of was, that he would not attend Par liament, unless his doing so would be the means of doing good to his country. He had never said that he would nut attend this House under any circumstance;. What he said was with the qualification he had just stated to the House. He had, he admitted, expressed an opinion that Members would best serve the interests of Ireland by staying in that country, instead of attending the House of Commons. The Honourable and Learned Member had represented Conciliation-hall as a scene of corruption, and that those whe attended there did so from selfish and improper motives ; but he (Mr. S. O'Brien) would tell that Hon. and Learned Gentlemen that the probity and propriety of all who attended there, and were concerned in its proceedings, were such as would contrast with the best-conducted assemblies in this coun try. He would speak mere especially of the humble classes, with respect to whose conduct he prided himself, for its superiority, as compared with the proceedings of similar bodies of men in this country. Another Hon. and Learned Gentle man had, along with himself (Mr. Smith O'Brien) been attacked, who was much better able to defend himself than he was; but to that attack he would only answer, that that Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. O'Connell) had given up a most lucrative practice and the most profitable sources of income, that he might devote himself to the interests of his country. To attack the motives of such a man, whose whole life was devoted to the arduous duty of obtaining justice for the pooplo of Ireland, could only be the suggestions of a low and grovel ling mind.—( Hear, hear.) He repeated what he had already stated, that if this Bill was permitted to pass in its present form, it would give the G overnmen t th e p ower of appointing, as professors, parties from out of families whom they (the Government) considered most adapted to serve their political purposes. The Bill placed the whole power in the hands of the Government; and, while it did so, he maintained it was an attempt to corrupt the intellect of Ireland.—( Hear. ) Lord JOHN RUSSELL wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary for the Home Department for an explanation on two points in reference to the proposed vote. The one was, why the proposition of 18,000/. had been raised to 21,000/. ? and the other was, whether any alteration was contemplated in the mode of appointing the professors ? Sir I. GRAHAM said the amendments contemplated would he thought meet the objections of the Noble Lord. He could assure the Noble Lord that there was every disposition on the part of the Government to make the measures palatable. On Monday he would fully explain the nature of those amend ments. 21,000/. a year was the vote proposed for the three colleges instead of 18,000/. a year as originally proposed. On Monday he would likewise explain the views of the Govern ment with respect to the appointment of professors. Mr. WILLIAMS objected to an additional grant of 3,000/. a year unless the application of the money was previously clearly defined. It was not his wish to offer any opposition to the measure but the Governme n t s hould no t ask" them to legis late in the dark. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, in accordance with what he conceived to be the opinion of the House, he had proposed the additional grant of 1,0001. a year to each college, for the purpose of granting prises and exhibitions. Mr. VERNON SMITH said that it was quite true they were asked to legislate in the dark, and these colleges might turn out to be nurseries for rebellion and agitation, for any thing:they knew to the contrary, or anything that had been stated to the House by the Government. In fact, it did not appear for whose benefit the measure was intended. Hitherto, upon the question of education, the House seemed anxious to educate the poor, but now the measure seemed; designed for the higher classes, for he doubted that the middle classes could send their children to these expensive colleges. He thought that if the people of Ireland were really anxious for educating their children, he did not see why they should not contribute towards such an object, and pay for the support of those seminaries out of the county rates. Sir R. PEEL said that if it were the wish of the House to carry out this measure they should not dispute about the mode in which the money was obtained. Grand juries were not in Ireland always the representatives of public opinion, and it was clear that a difference of opinion among grand juries as to granting the money would render the measure wholly nugatory. Mr. WYSE differed entirely from the course taken by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. V. Smith) and thought the mode of supporting the colleges suggested by him could not be carried out. The Right Hon. Baronet was well aware that there were many institutions in Ireland, but th e y are compu l sory b y the grand jury. And inasmuch as they had compulsory as sessments he thought that there ought to be some control over the parties by whom the assessments were made. He objected to any assessment by bodies which are not elected by the people, but as they had such endowments, they could not d o better than to supervise th e mode in which those assessments were applied. He would have wished that it should have been otherwise, but seeing the difficulty of getting any money from that House, he hod been obliged to decline carrying his propo sition further. He had proposed that there should be thirty. two county colleges, which should have their funds made good by the country, and that they should be connected with the University of London. They would thereby have the elemen tary schools, the more advanced seminaries, and then the county colleges intermediate between them and the University, and this last might be the crowning of the whole edifice. By this plan they would have as perfect a means of education in Ireland as in any other country. Ho was not so unreasonable or so unjust as to complain that the whole of this plan was not I carried out. His system would have given a continuous, analo gous, and well-founded course of education, but he could not regret that it was not at all adopted. It might be better to go step by step. The country might not be able,to bear it • and, at any rate, there was a great ad vance; an d h o should, therefore, rejoice in its adoption, and lament if there was;any indisposition to receive it by the Irish people. Mr. P. BORTIIWICK said that the Hon. Member, who had just sat down, had stated that such a system of education as he had described existed in Germany, but he had not been able to find it. Nevertheless, he would most willingly vote for the establishment of these colleges, and thought it a measure worthy of a great Government, and adapted to the necessities of a great people. Sir D. NORREYS wished to know whether it was still pro posed by the . Government to prevent any religious test in these colleges or not. Sir JAMES GRAHAM stated that the Government still adhered to their original resolution on that point, and whatever deviation they might make in the plan would be seen in the amendments of the Bill. Mr. COLLETT wished to know whether the 100,000/. was to be paid in the first instance for the establishmenf of these colleges, and the 21,0001. a-year for their support; and next, whether it was intended that the payments should begin this yeir ? Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that it was intended to appro priate 100,0001. to the erection of the colleges, and then to apply the sum of 7,000/. a-year for the support of each, but that the payments would not begin until after the colleges were founded, and it was therefore at present problematical whether they would begin this year or not. Perhaps a portion of the money might bo received. Sir T. D. ACL AND could not clearly understand how the colleges and halls were properly to be distinguished. Ac cording to his apprehension the halls might enjoy the benefit of religious instruction or not, although the colleges were ex cluded from that advantage. Sir JAM ES GRAHAM said that it was not the intention of Government to provide any religious instruction, as it would interfere with their plan. The halls might be endowed for the purposes of religious instruction by the benefactions of private individuals. Mr. SHELL said he wished to put two questions to the Right Hon. Baronet opposite; but as his object was not dis cussion on these points, the answer might, if the Right Hon. Gentleman thought proper, be postponed till another night. The first question was—Was it the intent on of the Govern ment that the appointment of the professors should be reserved to the Crown? The second—Was there to be any stipend awarded to a chapel attached to, or in the neighbourhood of, the college; and was there to be any ecclesiastic, Protestant or Roman Catholic, to be appointed for the purpose of giving religious instruction, and performing Divine worship, within the precincts of the college? If it were not convenient to give the answers now, they might be postponed until Monday next, when there would be a good opportunity of stating the decisions of the Government. The Right Hon. Baronet would be aware of the memorial which had been forwarded by the Roman Catholic bishops upon this question. In that memorial they were unanimous. It had been signed by Dr. Higgins, Dr. Murray, Dr. Croly, and Dr. Denver, among the other bishops, all of whom were members of the Board of Education. This was not only the expression of the Roman Catholic bishops, but he might say of the whole of the Roman Catholic body, or, it. other words, of seven-eights of the whole of the Irish peo ple. These were the questions—whether the appointment of the professors was reserved to the Crown, and whether there was to be any religious instruction provided. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that he bad already replied to the inquiries of the Noble Lord the Member for the City of London on these two points, and it had been agreed, as a mat ter of publics convenience, that the answers should be deferred until Monday. His Right Hon. Friend at the head of the Government proposed to bring on the Irish Bank Bill on Mon day, and as the debate !was not likely to occupy the whole of the evening, he himself proposed to bring up the report on the academical institutions, after that debate was concluded. He would go into the subject in detail, and state the whole of the plan he proposed to adopt. This course would be more conve nient, and he should therefore defer his reply untirtliat evening. Sir R. PEEL said that there would be no indisposition to give the answer at the present time, but as it seemed m ore t o consort with private conve n i ence . The House had had an in timation of the plan intended by his Right Hon. Friend, and there would be ample opportunity of detailing it fully on Mon day, that would be evidently the most convenient plan that could be adopted, as the House would then be put fully in pos session of the several points in the Government plan, and give time for the consideration of them. Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN was exceedingly anxious to see how far the wishes of the Irish people had been attended to in the proposed scheme of the Government, and trusted that the report would not be delayed longer than Monday. Sir J. GRAHAM said that the time which he had named, would be the most convenient, and as the Irish Bank Bill was not likely to occupy the whole of the evening, there would be sufficient time for discussion on bringing up the report. Mr. WYSE had intended to put similar questions as those asked by the Right lion. Gentleman the member for Dun garvon, but would defer further mention of them till Monday next. Sir H. W. BARRON hoped the Government would re consider the question of the appointment of profesiors, other wise the measure would very naturally, if not truly, go forth to the people of Ireland as p , opounded only with a view to its bein a source of patronage. Mr. WILLIAMS regretted that the Government had departed from their original intention respecting the amount and source of the funds for endowing these colleges. He thought it quite a novel circumstance for 100,0001. to be appropriated out of the public taxation of a country for the foundation of academical institutio ns , and to be a nnua lly requ i re d f or t h e i r ma i ntenance. Similar stuns were expended on colleges in Scotland, but pro cured from different sources, and no premium was held out by overninent for their permanent endowment. If the Right ion, baronet would agree that 6,0001. instead of 7,0001 . should be tak en out of the consolida,l..ed fund, and trust to the voluntary benevolence of individualo in Ireland to raise the remaining 1,0001., he would not oppose th o vote. He felt sure that the generosity of the Irish higher classes would snore than supply the amount required for pre miums, and on all grounds, he thought, not so much for the amount as the principle, the first proposition should be adhered to.—( Hear. ) Sir JAMES GRAHAM reminded the Hon. Member for Coventry, that the case of the Scotch colleges was of ancient date, and the principle originally established continued as if by consent, while that of the Irish Academical Institutions was novel, and he could not perceive the objections suggested by other Hon. Members. Lord J. RUSSELL advised Members on his side of the House, who had amendments or questions to propose, to defer further discussion on the Bill till Monday next, when a more favourable opportunity would be afforded for investigating the subject. Sir T. D. ACLAND having tendered his approval of the vote, The resolution was put and carried. THE MEDICAL BILL. Mr. BERNAL begged to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, whether the clause of the Medical Bill re lating to druggists would interfere with the previous enact ments affecting that profession. Sir JAMES GRAHAM replied that the Medical Bill would repeal such provisions of the Apothecaries Act as inter fered with its subsequent enactments. Sir GEORGE COCKBURN, in answer to a question put by the flon. Member for Marylebene a few nights since, stated tint the Admiralty were guided by the regulations respecting the grant of pensions in the case of wounds. Sir CHA It LES NAPIER said the regulations specified that unless the wound was equal to the loss of a limb, no pension shsuld be granted ; but if the Queen had the right of using her discretion and commanding its payment, even in cases where the wound did not amount to the prescribed severity, such an un certain method he considered objectionable, and suggested the adoption of a more definite regulation. IRISH FISHERIES. Sir W. BARRON wished to call the attention of the House to the unsatisfactory state of the Irish fisheries. The Irish Parliament had passed no less than twenty Acts to protect those rights, and subsequently the United Legislature had adopted similar protective measures. But the Board of Works in Ireland had neglected their duty, and the Acts of the Le gislature had been rendered nugatory by their remissness. The Commissioners who should have inquired into the state of every river in Ireland had only laid down the boundaries of 15 rivers, eight of which were in the eounty Kerry. Again, in the veer 1843, the first report was net made till May, in stead of the February preceding, as required by law. In 1844 it was not made till July, and about a fortnight since that for the present year was furnished. This delay was not merely neglect, it was a positive violation of the 112th section of the Act.—( Hear.) Last winter a certain number of gentlemen in Dublin, usually supporters of her Majesty's present Government, wishing to call a meeting of the board in unison with the injunctions of the Act of Parliament, consulted Lord Eliot as to the best mode of effect ing their object. That functionary had very properly referred them to the Commissioners themselves, but the Commission ers flatly refused to accede, pleading that the qualifying term, " when practicable," in the Act, meant " when convenient," and thus, forsooth, consulting their own convenience, they would neither convene a meeting nor give information. The reply would probably be, that the board was overburdened ; but, if so, why did they not admit the pressing character of their numerous engagements, and acknowledge their inability to perform their duties? He wished to call the at tention of the House to the report which bad been made by the various officers in command of the Coast guard in Ireland. Under an existing Act of Parliament, they were required to register all the boats employed in the Irish fisheries, and in the discharge of their duty they had re ported to the board in Dublin, that the fisheries in almcst all instances under their knowledge were in want of protec tion. There was scarcely one of these officers who did not bear testimony to the steady character and good conduct of the fishermen, and at the same time they seldom or never forget the distress they suffered from a want of large fishing-boats or smacks for carrying on their trade. But it was impossible that such boats could be employed in the Irish fisheries until there were piers made or harbours erected in which the fisher men could take refuge in time of danger and storm. Until Government made grants for this purpose, as they had most judiciously done in the case of Scotland, they could not expect to see any Improvement in the fisheries of Ireland. Government had alrendy granted 14,0001. for improving the fisheries of Scotland, and another grant of 3,0001. for building piers and improving the harbours of refuge; but to Ireland they had not granted one single farthing, although it was notorious that Ireland was a much poorer country than Scotland, and much more in want than Scotland. This was one of the chief causes of complaint which he hoped Government would take into their earliest consideration, and recommend to Parliament the ex pediency of making the same grant to Ireland as they had to Scotland. On the 26th of July, 1843, Lord Glengal, who was a supporter of the present Government, brought forward a motion on this subject, and on that occasion the Noble Lord stated that nothing could be more deplorable than the state of the Irish fisheries, from the want of proper attention being paid to them by the parties whose duty it was to see the Act of regulation carried into effect. Lord Carberry, another sup porter of the Government, on the same occasion gave a similar opinion, and his Grace the Duke of Welliington promised that the subject should receive attention in the proper quarter; but up to that moment his Grace's promise had not been fulfilled. Now these were the opinions of the Noble supporters of the Government, and he might add, the opinion of almost every gentleman in Ireland who had turned his attention to the subject. In certain towns in Ireland the rights of the public and the rights of pri vate property were constantly clashing from the want of being properly defined by the Board of Works as the Act di rected. But it appeared to hint that the present policy of the Board was to do nothing; for, in their reports, they openly confessed that they thought the best system for them was to let things alone. By the Act of Parliament, the Commis sioners were to decide the boundaries of fresh water and sea fisheries, but they had only done so in the case of 15 rivers out of 150, and eight of those were in one county. The Act also required them to take steps to prevent the destruction of breeding salmon, but they had failed to comply with the pro visions of the Act in this respect too. It would naturally be expected, that after making so many complaints, he should suggest some remedies, and, with the permission of the House, he would venture to do so. In the first place, he would sug gest that the fisheries of Ireland should be placed under the control of a separate board, but not to consist of a large number of persons. The Board might consist of one paid officer, who should have the aid of assistants for the purposes of inspection, and of three or four Iri sh gentlemen who, he had no doubt, would be most willing to act on the board without any pay or remuneration. would also have four or five deputy inspectors to act, and the board in the various districts of Ireland under the control and direction of the central board. In the next place, he would facilitate the building of large boats, and make grants of money to build piers or small harbours of refuge for such boats in time of peril and boisterous weather. He would require inspectors for different parts of the coast. And he asked no more than it was in the power of the Government to grant. It was not to be denied that the fishermen of Ireland were a hardy and brave race, and in 1780 the Parliament voted 10,000 men for the naval service of the country and the supplement was completed within three months.—( Hear, hear.) A similar necessity might arise within a short period, and he hoped the Govern ment would not allow dust to be thrown into their eyes in a matter which so much concerned the interests of humanity and of the empire.—( Hear, hear.) Sir T. FREMANTLE was sorry to hear the Hon. Ba ronet speak so disparagingly of the intentions of the Govern ment and so hopelessly of the prospects which might be opened to the Irish fisheries by this Bill. The Hon. Baronet had not made out by his statistics the case which he had alleged against the Government and the Bill. No exertion would be neglected to bring all the information available to the Government which would be laid before Parliament before the end of the present ses sion. The Right Hon. Baronet then went into a minute an .lysis of the products of the Irish fisheries for several years past. The system of giving boats and nets had failed, and with every at tention which the Government had been able to give to the subject, he was not prepared to say, th at P ar li ament oug h t to be asked for increasing the sums of money to be given for piers and harbours to extend the fisheries. Mr. SHELL said that his Hon. Friend deserved much com mendation for bringing the subject before the House.—( Hear.) Sir John Burgoyne was unquestionbly a very able man, but he was not equal—nor could any man be equal to the dis charge of that gentleman's manifold duties.—( Hear.) He thought that it was not just to confound the system recom mended by his Hon. Friend with what was called the " Bounty system," which every reasonable man deprecated. He would recommend the loan system in preference. Mr. WYSE concurred with his Hon. and Learned Friend, and condemned the measure before the House. He was in favour of the loan system, because, in no instance, had loans been advanced without repayment, and great advantage to the public, as well as to the individuals. Lord BERNARD could not concur in the reproaches cast upon the Board of Works in Ireland, and he believed that there could be no better means of promoting peace and happiness in Ireland without providing the means of industry to the people. Immediately upon the Noble Lord's conclusion, Sir C. NAPIER rose and said that he thought it was now the time for him to put his question respecting the state o the navy—( Order, order, and laughter.) The SPEAKER explained that the Gallant Officer was out of order, and after some short discussion, the Gallant Com- modore gave way. Mr. FRENCH believed that Ireland had sufficient capital in herself to carry on her own affairs. From the construction of railroads in that country he trusted that Ireland would never again call upon that House for any assistance. He did not think that any benefit accrued to Ireland from the enactment of laws respecting fisheries in that country. Lord JOHN RUSSELL then made a few observations, after which the subject dropped. ORDINANCE ESTIMATES. On reading the order of the day for going into Committee, Sir C. NAPIER drew the attention of the House to the state of the defences of the naval ports and arsenals, and also the harbours for the protection of the mercantile marine. He • referred to the motion made by Mr. Pitt, in 1786, recommend. ing the defence of their naval ports and arsenals. He would ask them whether it was not much more necessary now, after a peace of thirty y ears, to turn the i r attent i on t o t h e defence of their naval ports, than immediately after a war, when such a thing was unlikely. He then alluded to the opinion of the Prince de Joinville on the subject. It seemed to him that this country had changed sides with France, and stood with their arms folded, while the French were engaged in fortifying their ports and arsenals with works of the most extraordinary strength and magnitude. He then detailed the diffe rent steam-vessels, and the respective amount of their horse power. They had 23,000 horse power in their steam navy, while the French had 56,476 horse power. The French depended less upon their tonnage than horse power. All the French say is, let them look at our horse power and the facility we have of embarking men on board those vessels, and they will see that they cannot prevent us. The size of the former was 2,000 tone, whilst the tonnage of the Terrible was only 1,800, and they had thus great facilities of embarking men. The French had an army of 320,000 men and 80,000 horses, and by means of their rivers, canals, and steam-boats, the) could bring into this country an immense force if the exigency of war rendered such a thing necessary. That, at least, ought to cause a dread in the minds of the Eng lish. Then take Plymouth. He would contend for it that al though a breakwater had been recently put there, yet it pre sented no feature whatever calculated to resist the successful attack of a determined enemy from any quarter. Ports. mouth was in the same, if not a worse position, and it had nothing to prevent the entrance of a strong fleet. Then he came next to Pembroke ; that had a very large hos pital and very largo vessels were built there ; but still it was quite undefended. Sheerness was still worse; for although the docks and harbours there cost nearly five millions of money, still it had no solid, formidable defences. Now, he would ask, was this a state for this country to be in? or was it po s _ s,ible that it would be suffered to continue? The Gallant Officer then stated the number of instances in which the French had put successfully to sea, and evaded the English men-of war, notwithstanding all their watchfulness,' and arrived in Egypt, and landed an army of 40,000 men in that country, in spite cf all that the English fleet could do, though under the command of one of the ablest officers the country ever had. Even supposing. that a fleet of steam-vessels were ready for action at any of the ports of this country, with soldiers ready to embark, yet if a gale of wind sprung up, the steamers would not be able to get out, unless at an expense of all their fuel, titihile in the meantime the F renc h, or a ny other foreign would have a start of five or s i x h ours of us, and would be enabled to land forty or fifty thousand mon either in Ireland or in this country, before the English war-steamers could be ready; and, then, let him ask what would be the position of this country if such an event took place ? lie had heard Dover spoken of as a harbour of refuge, but he doubted very much if a convoy could get in there in a South-Easterly gale of wind ; at the same time he doubted very much if it could not be made a safe harbour of re fuge, and he did not disapprove of its having been recommended by the Commissioners, who, he per ceived, had also recommended a place between Portsmouth and Dover, and Portsmouth itself and Dartmouth ; but the latter was a tidal harbour, and, therefore, could only be entered in deep water. The Commissioners had also recommended Dun • geness, but taking that and the whole of the rest of the coast, he did not know a single place that afforded a harbour of refuge. He had detained the House thus long upon this question, but his object in doing so, was to try and impress upon her Ma jesty's Government the absolute necessity there existed for making an immediate survey of the whole coast of the country, with a view to ascertaining which were the best places for harbours of refuge, and to take measures for their prompt formation ; for if they did not they would per hap find, when it was too late, that they had reason to regret not having taken his advice. There was one other point to which he would refer, before he sat down, and that was the increased danger of collision which was likely to arise off the coast of Africa, in consequence of the recent treaty that had been entered into respecting the slave-trade. He thought that the dangers from this source were increased to an extent far greater than what they were by the right of search treaty, for it was scarcely possible now to avoid breils and collision, especially where choleric and hot-headed men came in contact. On a consideration of all those things he hoped the Right Hon. Baronet would not ask for a small sum, but a very large sum, to place the country--particularly the southern portion of it—in a proper state of defence, for the day might come when they would have cause to regret if these precautionary steps were neglected. Captain BOLDERO said that the Gallant Officer entirely overlooked the fact, that to enable any power to effect the mis chief he pointed out, they must first have the supremacy of the ocean. He felt satisfied that the officers who were appointed to superintend the fortifications on the coast were persons who might be confided in as having taken every precaution which the greatest skill and patriotism could sug gest for that purpose.—( Hear.) When he mentioned the name of Sir Geo. Host and Colonel Mercer, he thought he gave a sufficient guarantee for the confidence of the countly that nothing was wanting to place the country in a proper state of defence. With respect to the attacks of a foreign foe, that had been so forcibly dwelt upon by the Gallant Member, he thought that if we had nothing else to depend upon but the steam-boats and common tug-boats that were plying on the Thames, they could in a very short time be placed in a condi tion to repel any such attack, however formidable. Mr. RICE said that after the two commissions which had reported upon the subject, after the opinion expressed by Sir Robert Peel and the Duke of Wellington, he thought that something ought to be d one t o i mprove the fortifications at Portsmouth. He was not one of those who allowed their minds to be influenced by groundless alarms, but he was certainly of opinion, when he looked across the channel, and saw the acti vity which prevailed there in the fortification of Dunkirk, Boulogne, and Cherbourg, he thought that something ought to be done with regard to the ports on the southern coast of Eng land. He hoped that the Government would look to the subject in time. It was a question on which every military man, every naval and civil officer, were agreed on, and he was sure that if a sum of money were asked for this purpose, the House would gladly acquiesce in the justice and propriety of the demand. Sir R. PEEL said that the Gallant Officer opposite (Sir C. Napier) hart a great advantage over her Majesty's Govern ment in discussing this subject. Still he did:not ace how the Gallant Officer could believe that it would be to the public ad yantage to point out the weakest parts of the kingdom.— (Hear.) The Gallant Officer mitht think it consistent with his duty to point out the weakest harbour in the kingdom, but he (Sir R. Peel) thought the House would be of opinion that it would inconsistent with the duty of the Government to point out in what respect the Gallant Officer's views were er roneous. if the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman's views were to be carried out, it would involve an expenditure of something like 25,000,000/., at the very least.—(Laughter.) The Gallant Officer wanted harbours of refuge at Dover, Portland, and Harwich, which had been recommended by the harbour Commissioners, and he complained that there was no har bour recommended to be made at Portland, and between Portland and Portsmouth. The Gallant Officer then looked to the West Coast, and said that the only safe harbour these was Liverpool. The Gallant Officer then wished the East to be supplied with harbours of refuge. He doubted not if all these were granted, the Gallant Officer would conclude with a sup plemental request for similar harbours to be established on the west coast of Ireland.—(Hear, hear, from Sir C. Napier. ) And if that was granted, no doubt the Gallant officer would end with some request for the Channel Islands.—( Hear, hear, from Sir C. Napier, and laughter.) He (Sir Robert Peel) did not think it was at all prudent to rest with confi dence upon pacific declarations from other Powers, but he thought it would be very impolitic to involve the country in expenses equal to those necessary in time of war. The Ord nance estimates and the estimates for the navy had this year been increased; but in that increase no provision was made for the better fortification of the Channel Islands. Her Ma jesty's Goverment had appointed Commissioners to inquire into the subject of harbours of refuge, and those Commis sioners had made a full report. With respect to the harbours of refuge, he could tell the Hon. Gentleman that the sub ject had not escaped the attention of the Government. If there were one point which required the utmost eaution, it was that of spending millions of money upon harbours of re fuge. He had seen hundreds of thousands of pounds spent upon harbours of refuge, and ho had lived to see the harbours filled up in consequence of precautions not having been taken with respect to the sedimentary deposit. Since the report of the Commissioners, her Majesty had been pleased to summon some of the most eminent engineers in the country upon this subject. They had been requested to consider the points upon which the report of the Admiralty Commissioners was not considered satisfactory. Those gentlemen reported that it was necessary, in the first place, before a harbour was esta blished at Dover, to le have experiments made as to the amount of sedentary deposits. Those experiments had been made, but the report of the engineers had not yet been made. When that report was made, it would then be for her Majes ty's Government to consider the course. The subject had re ceived, and was receiving, the fullest consideration from her Majesty's Government, and he trusted that this assurance would be satisfactory to the Hon. Member for Dover Lord PALMFRSTON said that it was not perfectly fair that the Right Hon. Baronet should bring the charge against his Hon. and r _ant Friend, that he had given no previous notice of this question, for it was perfectly well known that his Hon. and Gallant Friend had consulted on this matter with the Right Hon. Baronet, and therefore the Right Hon. Baro net ought to have been prepared for the motion of his Hon. and Gallant Friend. It was very surprising, indeed, that any Prime Minister —that any Minister of the Crown— should say that he was ignorant of the proceedings in foreign Courts ; for if this admission did nothing else, it certainly proved that the Ministry did not do their duty. This matter was one of real importance, inasmuch as it was the duty of the Government to call the attention of the country to the efficient state of the ports. He thought there should be no mystery in the state of their defences. Did foreign countries imitate that mystery ? No. For in the Chamber of De puties there were the most free discussions on the subject of the fortifications of Paris, and no attempt had ever been made at concealment. What was the number of the French army ? 340,000. And our whole army only con sisted of 100,000, which, after supplying our colonial posses sions left only 50,000 at home. The French army numbered 340,000 men, and, deducting those sent to their fo reign possessions, there were still left at home 280,000 men. Although we were separated from France by the sea, he should think the security of the country was not adequately provided for by a force of some 40,000 or 50,000 men. We should imi tate the example of Prussia and Russia, and other continental States, and keep an army in reserve to protect us from any sudden inroad from a foreign enemy. The extended applica tion of steam navigation, and the multiplicity of railways, did practically bring the opposite shores of the Continent into contact with this country.—(Bear, hear.) When he had had the honour of being at the head of the Foreign-office, on one occasion Prince Talleyrand was talking about some very animated debates in the Chamber of Depu ties, and observed to him that the duties of the office which he (Lord Palmerston) had to perform were easier than those which had to be performed in the similar office in France. He asked for an explanation. Why, replied Prince Talleyrand, your naval force has placed you in such a posture of defence from foreign invasion, that your attention is not much directed to the state of your defences at home. The Parliament was called on to give greater attention to this matter. Then the Hon. and Gallant Officer had said you need not be under any apprehension, because no danger can accrue to this country from a foreign invasion, while our navy retains the supremacy of the sea. After the numerous instances in which large fleets had escaped and re turned safe into harbour, it was perfectly manifest it was not necessary to have the supremacy of the sea while steamers sailed for the transportation of troops. Th e case i n w hi c h hi s Hon. and Gall an t Friend required Parliamentary interference, and which he wished to impress on the attention of the House, was not the conducting of operations during the carrying on of a war. If you had time to increase your army and had equipped a sufficient fleet after a certain period, he admitted the means which his Hon. Friend considered inadequate might be trusted to, but when the Right Honourable Baronet talked of the plan of his Hon. Friend as a way to give information to the enemy, he would wish the Right Hon. Baronet to make inquiries, and to ask the French Admiral who brought last year into this country the French King, what was his opinion as to the nature of the defences at Portsmouth har bour ? Pie had already expressed surprise that the harbour had not been put in a better state of defence. The Govern ment had been told that if a dash were to be made by a number of armed steamers, there was no obstacle to prevent them from entering into the harbour. He (Lord Palmers on) had been told that the Government did not like to interfere with the present defences, because it would be a breach of the negotiation existing between the two countries ; but so far from weakening the negotiation, improved defences would strengthen it, by placing the country in a condition to repel any sudden invase n. Cherbourg, Dunkirk, and other ports on the Continent, had been put in a state of defence, and he would contend that it was the bounden duty of the Govern ment, considering the facilities which steam afforded for a sud den transportation of troops, not only to go on increasing the number of the steam force of the country, but to place those vulnerable points, the dock-yards, in a state of security, to repel any sudden attack which might arise from numerous unforeseen causes. That was the answer he would give to the little attempt at ridicule which the Right Ho nourable Baronet had endeavoured to throw upon the statement of his Gallant Friend. If it was intended by France to undertake the destruction of Portsmouth or Plymouth dockyards, thousands of Frenchmen would be found ready to undertake the task, or perish in the attempt. It was necessary to have harbours on the coast, not only for the protection of commercial fleets from the dangers of the boisterous elements, but also to appoint points of concentration for steamers to de fend the coast. The Right Hon. Baronet had said these mat ters required great' and serious attention, and ho had stated that large sums had been expended without suf ficient previous inquiries having beers made, and that he was unwilling to incur any further expense without being first assured that the place intended to be strengthened was really practicable for defence. He (Lord Palmerston) considered the Government were right in pausing in their expenditure, as regarded extensive points, b u t t h ere were several sm a ll er harbours, about which there were not two opinions, that they should be put in a posture of defence, and the Government ought, as speedily as possible, to commence the erection of the works. When a Government, having an important object to accomplish, sets about to inquire foe facts which no person had ever asked for, it was going out of the way altogether unnecessarily. lie hoped that another year would not be delayed helore something was done to remedy the defenees of the country. Several years might elapse before the works would be made useful, still, he considered they ought to begin the harbours of refuge against which nothing had been alleged, and the advantages were admitted to be great. They ought to take example of the French nation, who had made great exertion to put their country in a state of defence. The fortifications of Paris had cost 14,000,0001., yet they had only occupied four years in the erection. This was a course worthy of example, and it was of the highest national importance that the dock-yards should be placed in a proper state of defence. The great increase that had taken place in steam navigation during the last few years required that dock-y ar d s s h ou l d b e placed in a better state of defence than before. He hoped the Government would take the observations he had made in good part, as his only object was to place the defences of the country on a proper footing. He believed the present Government was no more to blame than previous Governments • it was the altered circumstances of the country that required this matter being entered into. Mr. DARBY hoped the Government would take active steps and attend to this question. He considered that no time should be lost in putting the harbours in a state of defence. Mr. C. WOOD hoped the subject would be taken into their earliest consideration. It was indispensably necessary to the welfare and safety of the country that no time should be lost in constructing harbours of refuge. Colonel WOOD quite agreed with the Noble Lord opposite respecting the general defences of the country. He had every confidence fn the valour and bravery of the British sol diers and seamen, still he thought, in the present aspect of affairs, the defences of the country ought to be placed in a proper state of repair. Mr. HINDL EY rose to movo for a return of the names of the persons receiving the allowance granted to Protestant Dis senting ministers ;in England with the names of the trustees administering the same. He was induced to bring forward this motion, from what had arisen at recent meetings of Dissenters in opposition to the Maynooth grant. '1 he Dissenters had op posed the Bill on the ground of opposition to all ecclesiastical endowments, and had, in consequence, been accused of taking money from the Government, at the very time they were pro testing against the grant to the Roman Catholics. It was in order to set this matter at rest, and to see who really among the Dissenters received Government money, that he had brought forward this motion. Now, he did not make any charge, and he should feel that he did injustice to the Cabinet if he did not name the parties who made it. Now, as the Dissenting body was divided into three bodies—the Pres byterians, the Baptists, and the Calvinists—he thought that it would be better that this return should be made. Sir R. PEEL—Name the party. Mr. HINDLEY—The Lord Chancellor, as it was reported to him, though he received a large sum of money, yet he paid no income-tax whatever. There was a sum voted, he believed, for the use of the Protestant Dissenters, but it was not known to whom the money was paid, and it ought to be known who received it. Mr. CARDWELL felt it his duty to oppose the motion. The fact was that this grant of less than 1,700/. had been dis tributed through a board, composed of three of each of the several connexions and three of the Established Church, ever since the time of Geo. I. He read a letter from Dr. Rees, who was looked up t o with much deference by the Dissenting body, in which the doctor stated that this was distributed among a great number of men of education and position in society, and he thought that if this motion were agreed to it would lead to the repudiation of the grant as an eleemosynary aid to men who I were unable from their devotion to their duties—were quite unable to obtain those advantages in society which men in their position ought to enjoy. In consequence of this statement, the Hon. Member for Montrose and the Hon. Member for Coventry, had felt it to be their duty to move for similar re turns, but on being convinced of the error of their conceptions, had both withdrawn their motions. On the question being put, Mr. WILLIAMS thought that while it might appear invi dious to require the names of particular parties beneficiaries of the State, no objection ought to bo raised to the publication of the names of the various sects receiving the grant, the amount accorded each, and a classification of the various grants. Dr. BOWRING would like to know the exact amount of information which the Government would he willing to afford. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not consent to furnish any further information than that hitherto conceded, and hoped the good sense of the House would not press for the return. . _ - Lord WORSL EY thought that the public should be per fectly satisfied with the names of the trustees, without know ing who the actual recipients of the bounties were. A suffi cient guarantee already existed in the publication of those trustees, and no advantage could possibly arise from any more specific returns. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD could not help thinking that while, during the late debate en the Maynooth Grant, the Dissenters had affected to abhor the principle of State endow ment, they were very ready to receive any bounty which the country would concede, and as he believed that an expo sure of those who thus were dependent on the State would be useful, he should vote for the return demanded. Sir W. SOMERVILLE remarked that repeated grants had been voted at various times to different bodies of Dissenters, which the Hon. Member who moved, and the Hon. Member who supported the motion, never attempted to oppose, although they had had every opportunity for doing so, and he should, therefore, support the Government in refusing the required in formation. After a few words from Mr. SHAM AN CRAWFORD in explanation, The House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment Against it Majority .. _ _ On our re .admission to the gallery, we found Mr. CRAVEN BERKELEY addressing the House on the subject of the expense to which the soldiers of the Guards might be put by the compulsion to white-wash their clothes.— (Laughter. ) They, the Life Guards, were especially favoured by the saving of the overalls—they absolutely saved 451. 16a. This was the proposition of a Member of a Conservative Government on the paltry advantages of the Household troops. But the gravest charge was yet to come. In the report which had been made on this subject, there was a statement that the regiments of the Household troops could not possibly be deprived of their benefits. This economy was most injurious. He had himself once been quartered at a low public-house, where, in consequence of a diseased animal, he lost half his horses by the glanders. Now, the quarter-master of a regiment of cavalry had an un limited authority to purchase as many horses as he required for the service of the Government. If the Queen of this country were to have any body guards they could not de prive them of the little advantages which they possessed. Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT was unwilling to follow the Hon. Gentleman through the whole of his argument. But to adduce an instance. Sir H. Hardinge had summoned a num ber of individuals to attend a Court, chiefly composed of ge neral officers. It was on the decisions of that Court that the Governmentaeted. They all reported in favour of the alteration. It was quite true that the band of the Life Guards was a larger and more expensive one than any other in the service, but then the officers of the regiment voluntarily offered to pay many of the expenses attending it ; and it was upon that fact that his Grace the Duke of Wellington recommended the al terations that had taken place in the regulations not only in this respect, but in others of which the Honourable Member had complained, and in which he (Mr. S. Herbert), though not as competent to speak upon the subject as he could wish, entirely concurred ; and he did think they were such, as while they contributed to the efficiency of the corps, did not give dissatisfaction to the men. Believing, then, that the public took some pride in beholding this fine regiment well equipped and appointed, and that the portion of the expendi diture which the public paid for upholding their state was cheerfully and willingly contributed, he should say that he did think it would not be well to interfere with the present regu lations, and, in this opinion, he believed he was borne out by the Board of General Officers. The contemplated changes spoken of by the Gallant Member were those sanctioned by the highest military authorities, and such as, he (Mr. S. Her bert) felt assured, would not make the men of the respective corps uncomfortable. Here the subject dropped. Sir C. NAPIER said he wished to correct a mistake into which he understood some Hon. Members had fallen in reference to the observations he made regarding the fortifica tions of Portsmouth. He by no means meant to say anything in depreciation of those fortifications, and therefore he did not wish that it should go forth to the public that he had meant to convey such an impression. _ The House then went into Committee pro forma, upon the Bill, when various sums of money having been voted, Mr. WILLIAMS said he had several objections to make to the money clauses of the Bill, but, at this hour of the morning, he could not think of trespassing on the House, and, therefore he hoped it would be adjourned. The House resumed, and the Chairman reported progress, and asked leave to sit again on Monday. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter past One o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. (From the Voles and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) FRIDAY, JUNE 13. SUPPLY. Motion made, and Question proposed, " That the Order of the Day for the Committee of Supply he now read :—Amendinent proposed, to leave out from the wont " That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words " there be laid before this House a Return of the names of the persons receivin4 the al ow:ince granted to Pro testant Dissenting Ministers in England, with the names of the Trustees administering the same," instead thereof:—Question put, " That the words proposed to he left out stand part of the Question." The House divided : MAJORITY-AYES, 54. Ackers, James (;orlon, Captain Napier, Sir C. Baring, W. B. Goulburn, 11. Ogle, S. C. Berkeley, Craven Graham, Sir J. Palmerston, Viscount Blake, M. J. Greene, Thomas Peel, Sir It. Bolder°, 11. G. Hamilton, G. A. Peel, Jonathan Bowles, Admiral Henley, J. W. Inside gh, W. Bowling, Dr. Herbert, Sidney Scott, Frances Boyd, John Jermyn, Earl Smith, T. B. C. Brisco, M. Lambton, H. Smollett, Alexander Brotherton, Joseph Lincoln, Earl of Somerville, Sir W. Bruce, Lord E. Lowther, Sir J. 11. Sutton, 11. M. Buller, Sir J. Y. Mackenzie, W. F. Trench, Sir F. W. Cardwell, Edward M'Neill, Duncan Wellesley, Lord C. Clerk, Sir Georgo Marjoribanks, S. Williams, William Cockburn, Sir G. Martin, John Worsley - , Lord Corry, henry Martin, C. W. Wyse, Thomas Ferguson, Sir P. A. Masterman, John TELLERS. Flower, Sir J. Meynell, Captain Young, John Gardner, John Dunn Morris, David Lennox, Lord A. :MINORITY-NOES, 3. TELLERiI. Hindley, Charles Crawford, W. S. Buller, P. S. Trelawny, .1. S. Wawn, J. T. BANK OF ENGLAND. .(From Last Night's Gazette.) An Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria, cap. 32, for the Week ending on Saturday, the 7th day of June, 1845. Fitll).e4Y NIGHT'S GAZErf.E. FOREIGN-OFFICE, JUNE 12, 1845. The Queen has been pleased to approve of Don Adolfo Gail leotard y A r a g on, as Consul at Sierra Leone for her Majesty the Queen of Spain. WAR-OFFICE, JUNE 6. d MEMOR A N DUM. Her Majesty has been graciously please to permit th e 34th Regiment to bear upon its regimental colour the words ~ Ar r oyo dos Molinos," in commemoration of the gallant conduct of the second battalion of the regiment in the operations at Arroyo dos Molinos, on the 28th October,lBll' WAR-OFFICE, JUNE 13. of 15th Regiment of Foot—Lieut. G. Tovrell, from half-pal the Bth Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice Sewell , E pointed Adjutant ; Ensign W. D. Hague to be Lieutenant~ '; purchase, vice Towell, who retires; A. F. Warburton, Ge° to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Hague, June 13. t'. 18th Foot—Lieut. C. A. Coates , f rom the 74th Foot, to Lieutenant, vice Mayo, who exchanges, June 13. ...lb 19th Foot—Quarter mas ter R. Barrett to be Adjutant, ' the rank of Ensign, vice Deacon, promoted, June 13. 0 24th Foot—Ensign S. G. Cart er, from the Royal Canaeah Rifle Regiment, to be Ensign , vi ce Li py eatt, who retire J 37 une 14. th Foot —E. J. N. Burton, Gent., to be Ensign, by P r ' chase, vice Gordon, promoted in 98th Foot, June 13. ot b 60th Foot—Lieutenant C. A. B. Gordon, from tha ',, 2 ‘ the " Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Vavato ur, a pp ointed to Foot, June 14. purchase, ti 5t h F ov o i t c — e E L n a s m i g b n a r R i., . v, H , h . o lg r a e c t G i r e r s e ; gor j r . t B o a b: t o f ; i , ec u l t e e: t a „ n t t • o te b l Ensign, by purchase, vice MacGregor, June 13. Lieutenant, 74 h Foo t vice—L i eut. Coates, J. Captain, 72d FO,O ti vice Coayßtraiienn O'Brien, who T T. e ß x c o h w a e n n g , e froms, Juneth e 1 38 6. t h F oot, tobe t te° 86th Foot—Captain D. O'Brien, from the 72d FOO 9 P w . 11 o May o exchanges,m Captain, vice Bowen, who exchanges, June 13. , se l ite 98th Foot—Captain W. Edit to be Major, by pure ° in ' t .1. Brevet Lieutenant Colonel Tripp, who retires; Lie ute°7 o C. Moritresor to be Captain, by purchase, vice Edie; Ell i g t ire A. B. Gordon, from the 37th Foot, to be Lieutenant, OP chase, vice Montresor, June 13. Rifle egimen en junellB3th. Foot, to be Carter,Roal Canadian R • t G tleman Cadet 5. .. 6 1.: from the Royal Military College, to be Enaigyti,l:73l% out purchase, vice Macdoriell, appointed Adjutant, J carter , S. P. Jarvis, Gent., to be Ensign , b y purchase, vic i & a i on ell appointed to the 24th Foot, June 14; EnE i g n R 'S] a t FOOtt to be Adjutant, vice Bentley, appoin ted tothe June 13. t o b e Captain, m i s East Middlesex Regiment of Militia --F. W. IlamilW' 25, a t si j o u n n h e y 6 t . he Lord Lieutenant of AliddieFeS. Esq., BANKRUPTS. Henry Wood, draper, Cheltenham, to surrender,JuneAl two, and July 25, at one, at the Court of Bankrulul: Old sager, official assignee, Birchin-lane ; Tillieard and 0 1 " Jewry. Illid dlesel , John Hill, licensed victualler, Hammersmith, krup tcy. June 20, and July 25, at one, at the Court of 13 g u .,d Soo , Pennell, official ii..i i t • Helmer s'" Bridge-street, Southwark.tee 2 3 ' at wards, a t r l e e e stationers, t offlc Solesi official l a a n Bs and Barge-yard, assignee, g ' n u ee u r -e n y : James Mabbs, jun. • b t Sussex, '"- f pant , baker, Chic es er,-,_ 0 half-past one, and JI o eleven, t the Court . Aiall eaeFr:,,drBA,,:aladesutri:nc.er,kgmkil,eiasas..nlbpl-busuart,yrary,e.,ejue 27G: : te rt, c 0,10.6, 3r,,, a, ruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Sambrook-00413'514 w hole' George How Green and George Courthope July 22, at half-past eleven, at the Court of BankraP Olen , Frederick's -place' . e ow Jewry' ucklersbury. at " e ' B John Squiers, fruiterer, Ipswich, Suffolk, Ju n .-. 'for' and July 21, at eleven, at the . Court of 11ankrogoefi; got, Wilson Wood and John Holmes, quand, official assignee, Old Jewry-chambers, L° Lincoln's-inn-fields. jaidstonet, eleven, Kent June 20, at half-past one, and July 2 Zi a j assignee, Coleman-street at the Court of Bankruptcy. Grahain,r Lon don. 28; Court. Stanway, official a . 1 e ; Dodds and Co., Billiter-sireeb' ster , J uPe • t William Gibbons, licensed victualler' ivia" eboter Distrioco at eleven,and July 22, at twelve, at Dupee . a i t los , tea dealer!' 35 0 11. 1 0 0 and Sanders, Temple, Losnscltnne, 'Atkinson u° • hester d , san der i fu ly I, Manchester. bon' " o. Thomas Clifton, printer, Barnard at two, and July 29, at half-past one, at he i e nee• rt av a e lor e t• John Braithwaite,Castle, sPeuwrostle-or:i Tyne District Court. Baker, officia l , 111 !"vryas , -u upon-Tyne • , Richardson, ;inoi Brnard Cas tle ' MO' , g o, buildings, London tlru° ape e ° l e • t Woodman, cas joy D otrie 6., and July 29, at two, at the Neweaftle.° tle-nr";eourt, Court. iorpeth ; innkeeper,'' e r o d s e b w y i a_ll:;:rpe, poo . Ty . Tyne , ; Wakley, official • e riewer," Church Crosby assigne ; wo rt° , Old Jewry, London. DEC' contra tore 111 1 16. DIVIDEND DEv'm oretra c ;,,; d, Jane wharf,J. A Stevens Mile-end-road—second r ß oa . d l. s N e V co . n D d rdujinv.inoofti6s.a, .uifinetehoefkitiri: Groom, 14, and three follow' s at the ° following Saturdays, Abchurch-lane, DIVIDENDS. tlapteeet. ow e At the Court of Bankruptcy, 110111'4, at O H) s tal e —G.C. Kettle, brewer, Tunbridge-vrells,Ju'Ydeo, .1019,4;ippast Payne, tailor, King-street, Covent-eft 1 4,at " uly 4, —W. Dale, boot maker, London-wall, j.,dilicuowaY,'!",;too• at twelve—W. Poynter, warehouseman, Dlgi e „„' „ Catherine oa Hampshire, half-past July twelve—W. e l 7, at— W.C. one—R. THuapifpeerrd,, g w rl ev ß eti a .... l : l4 s, . j, B l , I; 0. Snoulten, bankers, Canterbury Jul Jermyn-street, St. James's,a 'ltourliiiretr,' watch manufacturer, M ddl t jeet, two—W. Cawthorn Y e °I-s hant , S s eriO n ' , jun., wine mere 1 Gibbs, Strand, July 8, at h If 1 e" --* c t one. vor In the Country. Krkburt°Nroen, J. Booth, woollen-cloth manufacturer, ' t ,... •et p a Julyst t w 4 e , shire, July 7, at eleven, at the Leeds District CouLeed, Distost factor, Sheffield, July 10, at eleven, St the Leeds % l e Court—W. Hardisty, whitesmith, Waltefi, , m oo, the eleven, at the Leeds District Court -41. ' 1 _ 1 : c l e ver , ' st jell burner, Knottingley, Yorkshire, July 10, ab..,,_ ke fieltl , ,_ s o, Leeds District Court—G. Rothery, currier, " 1 „ . A lsro h. 10 , at eleven, at the Leeds District Court,et COI, builder, Hull, July 10, at eleven, at the Leeds D i st , ". o to iv' vat YhCaBl:'r.apk-e: v a e l i l s i b ' CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be eg o s G. dotted. 4...- contrary on the day herein-men ic i, . 0 , 1 C. Jacobs, fruit salesman, Farringdon-markes. lo•iberl; Gardner, tavern keeper, Gravesend, July B—G . , c ifieltl , and S. Russell, Britannia metal manufacturers, Slav Jelll4'; 7—E. R Newnes, brewer, Newton, Chesbirem'..nchesteto 111 8 0 - 4..rkeand W. Birks, commission a gents , ''' xii " - pishir e, "4./ R. Knott, druggist, Bolt 1 m r§ 1 ' A itili B—A. Mason, coach . on- e- 004,00uSt v u ltpo? James M wir proprietor, Bury St. i', 4.... J. l a w, ac i iam, hosier, Gloucester , JO 1 4.J. V ° marble mason, High-street, Portlnd-town, Jug t , - ,,. e I.' e' ley, draper, Strutton-ground, J a uly 4---1* `--D5e111;°,111, mason ; Notting-hill,. July 4—Vir. Atwater, dYer , ClitN e r street, Queen-square, July 4--W. g all, grocTortboe,r,j, , July 4—J. Hall, cowkeeper, Wallsend, r joy %et, land, July 4—J. Scott aper dealer, Liverpool, _„„ o or . r . Breekels, bedstead North -street, insbor/00" July 4—C. Bones, - Bath, July 4 ---6. shoemaker, draper, Bloomsbury-square, Jvly 4. ED. ter ers ' PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLV etc . 00 ,, E. and T. Hope, elastic India r ubber weh Pipe , 1 A. :Manchester—J. Hope, sen., E. flope, and J.,•,, iiith e en 0, calico printers' engravers, Manchester —J. W• " 00. ° c olt, D. Cookson, surgeons , Gloucester —R. Badcock,. fiecLa, Bacicock, jun., linen rapers, Abingdon—ft. an u acc ll'. Ti o t. linen drapers, East Isley, Berkshire —A. Dutton ... in erOt or groc , ers, Liverpool—W. Mason and J. Coupe, go e rs, or ting iam—J. Percy, sen., and J. Percy, jurl• n , 0 13irT re e , gent-street—A. Harrison and J. Smith, atOro*,e;ere".!,cers ham—E. Smith and M. Burt, dress m akers , " ? e, OA' t ell , Cavendish-square—H. Hawgood and W. Scrott,ro rotor, Newington-causeway—J. Green and J. I et , go cpter , Kingston-upon-Hull —W. Norton and J. 11 " e ' d' G. e t chants, East Cheap E. Coleman, T. Grant. an , • bo 03 4 MooLe , s t. c ot- tre e wine merchants, Dover—G. — Slater and . coffee dealers, Mincing-lane—F. T. Mackreth,,lllol:yrs, J. Downes, jun., wholesale tea dealers. upper carpet 0 0 . chth e ---C. Mogg, F. G. Mogg, and A. Ilrew n 0 0 , IWO , Bristol—J. Wray, W. Crabtree, and " • " -a e .od ° J',„ettr°l - Bradford—J. Newland, W. Do wn ' " te nt s t o o d ',' tea dealers, Rochdale—R. and G. B o wden , pateecar sod [1• nufacturers, Pump-row, Old-street -road—J; c, $. Fearoley, woollen cloth manufacturers, Leeds-- J. Smith, accountants, Sheffield. 1 0,14 ' TBATI°II..j jell SCOTCH SEQIILS Andrew Fell, tailor, Edinburgh, June 19 °- twelve, at Don ell's Rooms, Edinburgh. t he for PRICE OF StiGAR. d e e c hoir" • The Average Price of Brown or Muscov per 00 ado ; 0 , t,elr.he tin. ending June 10, 18 45 , is 31s. 1 lid. „o v of the Duties of Customs paid or paya bl e ther portation thereof into Great lltitain. held so OF RESPECT.--On 14° 11 t° P e ~,b i n: _ , .... of v rco , in week a soirees was in the Town.hall Mtiss eibu ill 1 01c1 ;0 101 W iiiilniairorTsaalilty writbycharisttoiakoesn ofo fall hdecuroeinSlatt:ooolo.s%olliklie town, before his leaving for Edinburgh. Oeiwed of Oct large and respectable, and the chair svas 51711,,,, b 1 i l e tlo es Kemp, who opened the business of the even —the 0 " con' and complimentary address to their guest, statingeariej,l°°%fgeo -25 under which the town lay to him for his ' lnv' OPP ° t 14 tinned, and gratuitous services chiefly among t he , 1 . tho let -4 °P ' being treasurer to the Destitute Sick B ete „ g oo', J. .• ~ io• • ,p , 9, Years. The meeting was then addressed In e a, fie': se , I C , r a n i : rpibaet Campbell, , sapnedechßesev.byc.thße atßeemva.n..l:ofriroaintha;ciSinVbfrihol tilelielscitiegr,' don e e red so a a l‘ s ie t s h s e rs t i ath ß e o r much iuge b hz e fe r Robertson and n ina d sfowr ehl Diann, li. i : o p. : : h:lei nuesoss e6lgbaburigahcoji ag on d u: 5:; 64 - 1,13 ;P o : o in fr presenting Mr. ' rail with a air o f elegrt falitnte 111 the Congregational Union of - 0 o ld 0001C0,11 throughout the country. —Scotsman. _LHAB Two lACDTABS.—The Ch ie with 100 c 10 41 e: fof ° , rr__ _ Heolan.ntii,ripilNlrieelivachnigata,,ttlia,osrloantewlyheernciaglriactdeodatohi?Zliai ~:nu,trisoi7l:ilin Allan, and left his card as " The Al nega i . 0 311' to c i s turned his visit, leaving his card," The °Met Dia dd itioll ot ghe• E 6r. owd n S : ii 3 Hutcheson-town, , , 1 0, 0 ws : nef o : ra - T T ee l r Al l y E in ß e n j : i) and V : co l V: : : i f a t .In oft" TOO workmen, at once consented toce the WO , re ii roo icie• hour is og,triattleitidetdotboonnedt.hittal‘falrsi. 00 0 ----:-:=------ fesPti° Mit T.H - 8 . 'Atli , f o• e On the sth of April last. at Mussouree, the ot. of Aen,ll.' J. S. Do Vernet - , lid Madras European ite t g i i r h e e orlfe nri , ° , ,. . id , On the 9th inst., at Castle -bill, Bake , st ill'''' tia l M. Nestield, Eiq ,barrister -at-law, of a son, , i WS. 'clv On the 10th inst., at Lee-terrace, 131aeliteai., W 1 ford ichardso n, of daugher. f 0 1°85 On R the 10th inst., at Old Ford, the la- „ , ° gro• steed, Esq., of a daughter. aughef.rle, - On the 11th inst., Mrs. 11. Ritchie, of a h ..„t, 1 e On the ' 1 lth inst., at 'rut-uses llill, Giles " iscitiaret W. Ward, of a son. O h the 12th' inst., at Grenville .street, 131.°115slic' Mrs. 11. S. Selfe , of a son. the 10th fre,titer of C le p o t Merles, of Holbeach, Diary's n U.Stittor Fsq., of the Inner Tetnple, va r ' FA ' sham, I,vfioltus'r.tll daughter of the late W. tire: eo, ~e ph J ° , ll t o irabet the Uth inst., at St. Patlerft; Church, de°•' of t$ AI.D., t o Mary Thomas Ince, third dauglit r I.:sq., of Upper Gower-street. On Wher Mr. I On Edw' Mel k, Oa Erg., John . eci l :i On the 11th inst., at Cliespteirto-np,. near Canibriclgi-er ,„,a1 cialiw 4 years and 4 month_, Louiqa Ainev, set'^- NV ilhain Atkinson and Beth Wit-rwic ~. of Jades Templer, Esq. " P ' 151lbeibl On the 9th inst at Bodilicott 'louse, 0i10.rd,,, Bth hilt at Brid ort Catharine, the Wile M a ria, the youngest"danghter of \V". fl. liitcoco(leOr. li• Ritchie, ofrt.shcei.,wrnaantdesowfoliretirfrioaajdes.ty'ssiliP Ilec:arr.ri.itiCrrb°l° On the wth inst. ! Jane the twin ch u g , to 0t . , - 9th inst., at the .oval nospital, NV- 01,.n, On the 10th inst., Charlotte Julia, wife 0f jot! , On the llth inst., Chatham, second So ° PS:Olll:ll:lttgljih:Pper Hamilton-terrace, St. John s-woodirr. Tbotnio Esq., of Upper flomerton. on: ranted and. l'ublishod by - ,1,0, of Lend. ' 112, Strami. Printer. at The ago Oiliethcrooti the Precinct et' the Savoy, is Use Middlesex, s4turday, Joe 14, 1645. g111:1)0.1:0u1/4i0. jig( ISSUE DEPARTMENT. X. X. Notes issued Other securities... 2,981,900 Gold coin and bul lion 13,605,716 Silver bullion 2,126,884 £29,732,600 j £29,732,600 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. dated the 12th dad• of June, 1845. BANKING D. :PARTMENT. Proprietors' capitall4,ss3 ,000 Rest L'ublic deposits (in chiding Exche quer, Savings banks, Commis sioners of National Debt., and di vi- Government secu rities (including Dead Weight Annuity) Other securities 11,470,805 Notes 9,362,505 Gold and silver coin 779,486 dend accounln) 5,745,482 Other deposits 10,561,624 Seven day and other billa £33,017,694 M. MA Dated the 12th day of June, £35,017,694 .11SHALL, Chief Cashier. 1845. ATTACK OF A MANIAC GENTLEMAN ON UTS KEEPER —Yesterday morning, between nine and ten o'clock, a desperate attack on his attendant was made by Mr. Sayer, a gen tleman of fortune, residing at St. John's Wood, who for many years has been in a deranged state of mind. The unfortunate gentleman had an attendant eight years, who quitted about a fortnight since on ac count of illness; another was appointed in his situation, but the unfortunate gentleman could not become reconciled to him. At the usual time for taking his morning walk yesterday, Mr. Sayer suddenly rushed at his attendant, threw him backwards down the stairs, and immediately following him, beat him over the head with great violence with a abort stick he had secreted under his coat. The cries of the man for assistance being heard by the domestics, they immediately ran up and rescued him, but not before he had sustained extensive and alarming Injuries. Mr. Sayer was with difficulty shortly afterwards properly secured. )r o llus e 'i4 44 l °4 ' 44 11 144, , 00 1 1 k4 N 'tel l • r °f 04 44 1',1 N an, NI e It t : l 4t l4t itel ti i 4 4: 4 I 11 41 441 4 • t*4 > ti°l 1 to ti ,‘"N tAt111), N eh4 ll ? - 41, ti „ 'kell us T l itt 1(71111; 1 ' til 13 t1 '14, ky 4 Brie. ');\• l , ) , l l] 1) 141' 1 4,1 ll] N ' tl t l l)ti 4ll -y J itl N 41y er (`l 44 ih v. ,•- , at) ' L • ate k eg s t 1 N h 4t 4ri fig 4 411' 4 t 44 1 °' 1 1, 141, t' ,4 1 t 4 1, 14 t11 e tn 1)1, ith e e , 4 4 "'AP t " re n g ' o llt e 4 fiti 411 ( 4 .4 4 , c 't'dl 41 k% 1 / 4 ' 4 4, 1,,5 4i 101,4, 1 . 4 11, 1 v 4'4; 4 ) , Z1)11 4 1't lie 4 ko"tvu 4 I+ i t l; o 4 ''r 111 1 4 k Y,1 1 ;;? t\tt kh ) I), t 4 q ta , t , lat 4 THE SUN, LONDON, SATU RDA E VENING, JUYE 14, 1845 ,