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Arbroath' ,the 3 90 14 1' the the ighc aP I Y true , . i t; it it of A the the that t here r use ith" L ;gilt a tent li iiiht L A O' CS' )1 t,lOl l and ' in be ate pf a , for tin Mt. nazi re •w fsT tEev aid rot mean to put down the Roman Catholic hierarchy ' , ten ; u.e) might .ey so, for they durst net 'Tapt it. As th e measure s t oo d i n it s diminished form, he defied any bishop of the Rom Catholic Church to exercise big l ,!PiseOpal functions, withoet being subject to a penalty of He saw the Attornev-General for Ireland in his place, and he should like to heir fram him, whether or not what ,7 . l v_as slating idrespect of the effect of the measure was the 4 ., 4 ct e He trusted in God that nothing the Legislature could r would prevent the Roman Catholic subjects of the Sovereign from obtaining the advantage and support of the Ify,P ial clergy. Could any sincere Protestant dread any the 1 7 between the clergy of the ' Roman Catholic and of Protestant f ' o , r e . Churches? He asked the House - to pause he s! tlley interfered with the free action of the Roman millions in Ireland, or before they gave their sane ,Tin a to the measure which, in point of fact, would be more "'1 repeal of the Act of 1829. Mr. STANFORD found it exceedingly difficult, not only '..!ote, but t o s p ea k, on an i ssue such as that raised in the rises Um then under consideration. Still , he should g ive Pert v°6l prin ciple or , not according to what men might say was the pur meaning of the motion, hut according to the _ ti. _of the proposition. Suppose the motion affirmed, what I I?, id it lead to. It would lead to Nothing. Now, it could 4 ,1 3 be said that he was opposed to the Pope. He had ;ended the sum of 2.11. in printing and publishing a 1 8 ' 1 1 phlet on the patriots of Italy, of which he had only sold c ueiei.--(Laughter.) He was anxious to give every an to the Bishop of Rome in 'the re-establishment of l u asitutional government, but he had reason to rind fault with the steps which the Noble leader of the Whig Adminis tration had taken. The Noble Lord had endeavoured to go !sera Ireland through the Bishop of Rome. It was quite true theat task was a difficult one, and that the wishes of seven the trillions of people were obliged to be consulted; b ut still course adopted by the responsible head of the Govern ,s4;l*z laid him open to censure. The Noble Lord was more dud statesman than a Protestant in the government of the them After seven months delay, the Noble Lord had given th 1 .. 11 ,1 nothing but words. The Noble Lord had consulted , 0 7 law officers of the Crown, and he knew something of the ,_untion law himself, for he had written a book on it, which t ;(dr. Stanford) had read.—(A laugh.) He was, there fore, surprised that he had taken the course he had done. If t rio ought that the Pope had committed an aggression on ,„_-• Prerogatives of our Sovereign, and upon the law of na na,:which he undoubtedly had • done, he might have avoi ded the revival of an obsolete statute. After the as eo: "tal',Ption of these titles, and the publication of th e rescri p t tty which they w ere conferred, he might have issued iP ro clamation, declaring the assumption of all such titles by pubjects of her Majesty, unlawful, prohibiting their use, or , 1 , 112 P; the circulation or publication of any bulls , rescr i p ta, er documents of that nature. Such a proclamation ,w.snu ad have come in support of the statute, and any subse ;ant infraction might have been punished with fine and irn oftunualetas But he did not believe that any loyal subject th. her Majesty would have, after that warning, assumed 1/,`,' 13 . He thought the terms of the motion of the 11 our able Member for Stafford were quite correct. rd John Russell, in his letter to the Bishop Wino • ,• _ a xt am, had produced expectations of l e gis lation m u ... lead not been realized. The Noble Lord had also letter used language which could not but deeply o :l'und the feelings of the members of the Roman Catholic the The, terms " suerstitious mummeries," though Noble Lord had had the good sense subsequently to fr e fY and explain them, were phrases which ought not to b( ten used, because we had no right to insult any man aceo not of his sincerely entertained religious convictions. r, hear.) He gave all credit to the tact of the Hon. hetalberfor Stafford, who had framed his motion so well that It t hou ght no Hon. Gentleman could deny the propositions .1 411 -Wined. The Noble Lord, no doubt, relied upon his in raj!), in tact ; and it was said that where it was passible wriggl e in it was also possible to wriggle out; but, giving the Node Lord credit for all .the tact he possessed, a t ~,suouldl support the motion of: , the Hon. Member for taord, because its propositions were indisputable. ir R. INGLIS had listened to the very last sentence of 'e slate& of the Hon. Member far Reading, without clis trerin,g on what side he intended to vote. Whether the and Learned Gentleman was a„Brahmin, or, as he had rsiled himself, a Pariah, whether, like another professo r of ~a ' eratur e, his works had gone through thirty editions , skip - V ie g sotee—or expended 25 solid pounds on a pamphlet , of si " h the people of had the bad taste to, buy only copies —(Laughter)—whether he was consistent in ex e"ing his confidence in the honesty of the Noble Lord, and yetfinding fault with and voting against his policy— r'!( all these and other ques ti o ns connected with the auto rgra.phy of the Hon. Member—(A. laugh) —he would not i!: He would notice only o ne sentence of the speech ;in 'Which t Lie Honourable' and Learned Gentleman said if the action of the • Hon. Member for Stafford were carried it .nuld hove no evil consequences in the country.—(Hear, 'ar.) Now what was the effect of that mot ion. The question which the Speaker had to put was , " that he do now l eave the chair." The amendment of the Hon. Member was to leave out all the words after that, and to insert instead uric t . l•rea linen Moved by the Hon. Member for Stafford. As -nun g for 'a moment that that amendment was unfortu bluely carried; what would be the result? Was it of no c anseqttence to the country? On the contrary, the amend *lA mt would destroy the Bill. (Hear, hear.) The question Wt is not whether the Bill was good or bad. He believed it As .5 good so far as it went. It was not so good as it might ve been. He had hoped for a better, but when the qnes tick n was taken, it would be whether they would go in Com -411 tee to - amend it as far as possible, and on that question he cot old have no hesitation in giving his vote against the ani endment,--(Hear, bear.) Was there any on e in that „ , use who believed that no legislation on this subject would be satisfactory to the great majority .of the people ?—(Hear, , e 0 or.) On the contrary , such a course would be hostile aOl da to their feelings and their judgment. The Bill had ate 'n carried by repeated and increasing majorities ; the firs t was 394; the second 414, and the third was 434, while Its opponents bad never mustered more than 90.—(Cries of Hear, hear.") With the exception of the Honourable Met nber for Ripon, and the gentlemen who voted with him, and the Hon. Member for Dublin and his friends, no Mem bern that side of the House had voted against the Bill. He had t i high respect for the Hon. Member for Ripon, and the ;gentle. men who occupied those benches ;lint the memberi of • 1 45 last.' Cabinet, the Irish brigade, And all the stray sup- Porters they could secure, never amounted to more than 90. Hear, hear:) Well, then, were the people of England to yi d now?-(Hear, hear.) To call, on the Noble Lord at . *(1 head of the Government to abando n all that he had done t his matter, was more than he hoped any of h is friends rot old, assent to. But whatever they might do, his (Sir R. luisLis's) course was clear.— (Hear, hear.) He now saw a Pro position in the hands of the Speaker, which, if adopted, t pot old: ann ihil a te the Bill, and therefor e he most earnestl y aulaild that the general way in which they had hitherto sup- Porte d the people of England on this question would not now be depawted from by the supporters of the Bill. He for one would t~ of vote for the amendment of the Hon. Member for Stafford ,; and he most earnestly hoped that his motion would r reject ed by a great majority, so as to leave the Bill ot the Noble Lead undimiuished in its provisions, and enable the - Noble Lord to carry out his views, so as to call into exist „taces upern ument resistance to Papal aggression, a perma 'est support' to the Protestant Church in this country. Lord DUDLEY STUART ;sSid, that the speech of the o▪ ri. Baronet who had jiist, sat down, in favour of the Bill, had almost convinced him that he ought to give his vote t,h orour of the 'motion of the H on , Member for Stafford. th regard to the resolution of ,the Hon. Member for Sts fford, it appeared to, him ,that it was a perfect truism, sad .it would ,be childishness to waste time in disputing it. Ta, Government, it - was said , had gi ven encouragement to "ue Pope to act as he had done, and no doubt that was 4 , 6 ° it some respects ; but had not, other Governments done ule same thing ? To what hadbeen stated in the discussion " t he question he could add little; but as, at the beginning 13 ,..f tote discussion, he had not an opaort unit y of ex p ressing ~Irrts elf, he trusted the House would perm it him now to ex l'4.o(' es his, views on the subject. — (He ar, hear.) He had, !ra m the first, a great objection to this Bill, and very early in the session had declared his 'decided repugnance to uh y legislation whatever on the subject.— (Hear, hear, from e oppunents of the Bill.) He said that it should not be -" Kansa' to be from any leaning towards the course of Bo ra madam, nor from any leaning towards those who leant to w aids Romanian' in disguise, and who were known as Pu s* Sites, that he was a bout to take the course that he had rti; salted out for himself. He hated all persons in disguise. Th e reason why he was opposed to 'the Bill was not, as he had 'already intimated, from a n y leanin g towards the Roman Caul. dies, nor from any leaning to p seudo -Roman Catholics, but la .cause he was opposed to all interference with civil and religio u s liberty—(Hear, hear) —and but that he had been kept as way from the House by sickness, he would have offered to it hi e most strenuous opposition, before now. He con aid ered that to interfere with any people in the exercise of the rel igion which they believed to be true was most unjust, un ve. ise, and daugerons.....(Hear, hear.) He bad his own °pi ma ons on matters of religious belief, and he should say that tie e greatest benefit that could be conferred on mankind cot tld be in their conversion to Protestantism.—(Hear, hear.) But instead of taking the right course, they were doing the soma Ary, and were pursuing that which was opposed to all right. Let every man, he said, be free to exercise his reli gion, z.cod let them act upon the principle, " Do unto others as you -would be done by."—(Hear, hear.) With regard to tile insult which it was said had been offered by the Pope, he Ilai eat say it assumed that character, `and was introduced with adt the paraphernalia of offensiveness. It did, in his opinion, s o nstitnte an insult to the nation and the Sovereign of the ois lion ; and he was quite satisfied' that the Pope had been hada atdhvroisweditn i. n euced to resort to the step by thole who were the known tug , nice of this country, and who' 'wished to " throw the a ppi e of disecl A d: tt i str a the Pope's pastoral" letter& much of the poe Ih tmn a e m i o n n t gs hi t' it u e s m iness n , and expnretstiesci._Thefcould see also what the 1 a ILI the a f t h I tt a W A s I 'folicy he had alwaysibustetts. Recollect the feel s • tr i es witli.whic ,those Governments. had always denounceEt' e til enl whenever he had attachment to a d how' he even his objec t e opportunity, and he was not surprised to see them med ddi ; but his ng in the step taken by the Pope Yet he was sure th le is, and religious liberty was greater tha n is as to those powers. at the people of if necessar t hi s country would rise up, be offered h to " (ma man, to Mt alga a ny insult that might _their Gracious wer—(Hear)—and it were an • log rereign an Y P ° la on th ' insult of ih a it description that wou tin e prerogative of the say they ght to have recourseshould to h 1 altr b o • han the melanc p y, a 'tree ma • rune other paeans t to. repel it. He said that h u e Is lure now before the Houser a case, to sen a d fleet to enrce an • iourse should be in such , ) But the step taken b y the t i pology from the Pope.—Ci-•ea r • him ready to exercise spiritual ope was one which showed howls themselves ready to do bower, and all Popes h a d ever s if they .had sent a force against t site same thing. No doubtf Rome whe him dead Strom ea where I lie Pope, they would drive b foreign bayonets. They le was at that moment kept y send cot one to Rome? I tad sent a fleet to Greece, and why .not I t thorn not reed the weak, e em —Wear, hear.) Whilst they hade4e no occasion to adopt * accumb ' to the strong; but they,had been insult—if it was one— o my such course, because an ittsu weak, and he said that the t ) , tiered .e Sovereign who was f dealing with 13 etter cOnrse would be to take another course of succeed.—(Hear, It than that 011egislation,which would not ent Roman Ca ".) •The •ht b their legislation ptb rey y mig y. but they could tol bishops.from assuming territorial titles, h 't Otl prevent, them front exerc i s ing spiritual ant ori y over tl ter r people. As a Protestant , he.rejoiced in his religion; In he_could give no support or count enance to a measurean ho se object was to interfere with the p rinci p le of civil eat d la lig ious liberty.—(Hear, bear.) He was aware that • tut se which he was taking was unpopula r with the gr ade s , of the constituency which he had the honour of repre ,a, timings but he had determined on ta kin g that course, 1 ( mg before he had heard the speedies of the Right Honour s' tole Baronet the Member for Ripon, and other distinguished • [embers of that House. On the very second day of the aF seion, on the report on the Address, he took the liberty of r stating t 9 the House what his opinions on this sub ct were, and of expressing his opposition to any legisla th ne upon it. The Eon. Baronet the Member for the Uni rye. ra,ity of Oxford bad said that; whenever there was a di e is ion on the Bill; there bad been immense majorities in _fa' von r of the Bill ; but that did not influence him (Lord •Ut Idle y Stuart) in the course which he thought right to pur au( 1, He had proclaimed his opinions, uninfluenced by any /713 la° x . he had heard expressed on this Bill, and seeing that the a e ,a jorities were so formidable in favour of it, it appeared t o nate be only a waste of time to b e still discussin g it, and " 6 'ln Shied that Hon. Members, seeing that that was the "Sao ' u,. tld withdrali Naar bpposition tathe Bill, and THE set the House free to proceed with the business of the country. lie maintained that the course taken was not creditable to those now in the Government, and he believed that the time would come, when the people of this country would be ashamed of such legislation. —(Hear, and cheers.) Mr. BANKER said he should give his vote on very dif ferent principles from those expressed by the Noble. Lord who had just sat down, and the Hon. Member for the Uni versity of Oxford. He had agreed commonly with his Hon. Friend the Member for the Uaiversity of Oxford, but he thought that ha would be but discharging his duty in voting for the amendment. now before the house : .for when it came to a question of " Ayes" or " Noes," he found that " aye" was the truth, and he .should give his vote on the " aye" sides Ha agreed _with the Noble Lord (Lord Dud ley Stuart) that not only the present .Government were had in fault with regard to the . encouragement which they given to the Pope, but other Governments had also g iven en coaragement to Roman Catholics, and for these reasons he should vote for the resolution of, the Hon. Member for Staf ford. When these discussions ,began, and when he found Lord Beaumont and other Roman Catholic Peers of rank and talent giving their assent to the measure, he was in hopes the discussions upon • it might be conducted witnout any religious qaestiens being raised as between Protestant and Catholic. He (Mr. Bankee), could assure them that such was the feeling :of his mind, and that he never considered it a question as between, catholic and Protestant, but as a political question ,in which he was bound to support the maintenance of tlje. Established. Church. • But that should not drive him to adopt a course most pitiful and in jurious to the feelings.„ of others. It was perfectly true that the , Cntholia hierarchy in Ireland was recog nised, rot only by collusion, but ,by acts which took place under the eye of the Sovereign - they were encouraged by the Government , and hopes heldi out to them that what they aspired to was not only not distasteful to the Government, but they had a. right to think that no such course as that adopted would have been pursued, He was convinced in his own mind that the terms of the motion were perfectly true, and he should be ashamed of himself when celled on to give judgment—to say aye or no —if he 'did not unhesitatingly pronounce an opinion in its favour. The Noble Lord at the head of the Government, so far back as the month of November last, published his famous letter. ,Parliament did not meet for three months after. For three months the Cabinet was employed in pre paring a measure,,and it was submitted at last for the con sideration of Parliament. The Roman Catholic Irish Mem bers, no doubt, opposed it; but the minority was the smallest perhaps on record., A large majority sanctioned the propo sition, and the speech of the Noble Lord which introduced it was perhaps the most eloquent he or any man ever delivered in that. House on that particular subject. The House met early he F e bruary, but before the end of t h a t month the Noble Lord resigned his office, abandoned the Bill and his Sovereign, for causes which were never fully ex plained; but among which, as he (Mr. Bankes) understood, that very Bill formed a portion. Perhaps the Noble Lord would that night give a reason why, with a majority of 14, and a minority brought about by accidental circumstances, he abandoned his Bill and his Sovereign who opened Parlia ment with the speech to which he had just alluded. As to the question of majority or minority, there was a majority the other night of 14 against him, and yet, instead of re signing, he still remained in office. He would tell his Hon ,1 Friend the Member for the University of Oxford, that to oppose the present motion was not. therefore, to place the Bill in peril, because the Noble Lord having abandoned his Bill, could his Hon. Friend believe that any Minister who might come into office would not dare to bring it in, or introduce a better one.—(Hear, hear.) According, to the oath which he (Mr. Bankes) had taken, he was bound to vote for the Bill; a measure, it should be recollected, which was in its full perfection when the Noble Lord left office, since whose return it had been emasculated, which led him to believe it conned the main cause of his resignation. That, however, would be a subject for discussion in Committee, when the Noble Lord would have to vote for the clauses he had himself originally proposed. Believing, as he did, that the fears of his Hon. Friend were visionary, ho would not blame him (Mr. Bankes) if he shrank not from voting for the proposition of the Hon. Member for Stafford, knowing that the opinions it set forth were perfectly accurate. Mr. PLUMPTRE would vote for the motion that the Speaker leave the chair, and against the resolution of the Hon. Gentleman, the Member for Stafford—because it seemed to him they had quite enough of bandying words backward and forward—and that the time for action had arrived.—(Hear, hear.) That was the feeling of the Protestant people of this country. Therefore whether there was more or less in the proposition before the House—and it did not contain the whole truth—be had not a shadow of doubt that the best course he could pursue was to vote agaidst the motion of the Hon. Member for Staffoed.—(Cheers.) Mr. REYNOLDS observed that the Hon. Member who just sat down used a phrase for which he was cheered by the Treasury benchese—that in regard to this Bill of pains and penalties, the people of this country had exhibited great pa tience. Did that mean that they were impatient of all con trol—that they 'f ere so anxious to forge manacles on ten millions of their fellow-subjects, of whom he was one—(A laugh) —that they had lost their patience? The Honourable Gentleman would allow him to say that, although three months had *peed since the. Bill was introduced on the 10th of February, it was very likely his patience would be put to the test a little farther, for if he were not very much mistaken, both himself end . those who acted with him, feeling it was 1111 aggression on their creed, a declaration of war was determined to protect themselves in opposing the measure by every means in their power. He (Mr. Reynolds) heard with great pleasure and con siderable pain the speech of his Noble Friend the Member for Marylebone. He heard the sentiments he expressed with. pleasure, but he felt pain in hearing him say it was no, use to oppose the present measure any further, because it was hopeless. He did not expect to hear such an opinion from a man who stood by the patriotic Poles in their hour ,of peril and of need—who raised the Polish standard' when it was trampled in the gutter.— (Laughter.) He had been told by more than one Member that they would pot vote for the Bill, because they were sure to lose their seats. There were, however, two Hon. Gentlemen who voted and spoke against it, for which they deserved—as they received—the thanks of every lover of civil and religious liberty - id the` United - Kingdom. Those Hon. Members, who represented Manchester, were told also that they would lose their seats; and yet, hen they went among their constituents, and called a meeting during the recess; when they declared they would rather lose their seats than vote for the Bill, they were not only not censured in that bee-hive of human industry, but a vote of confidence in them was pasSed unanimously. They may talk of their majority of 400; but if the ignorant, bi goted, and fanatical portion of the people of England were to be respected, were not his Catholic countrymen entitled to some respect likewise? The Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary for the Home Department, in his eloquent speech of that night, said that in Ireland the Catholic and Protestant hierarchy were side by side, and that, therefore, there was a difference between England and that country. Ye admitted there was a difference, but he applied the same Bill to both, he (Mr. Reynolds) supposed in consequence of his particular love of uniformity. An Irish patriot, whom he regretted not to see in his place, had said of him that he (Mr. Reynolds) had ventured to avow in a society of English gentlemen his determination to vote against the Government on all questions. He (Mr. Reynolds) repeated the avowal that from the period of the, publication of that letter, and the introduction of'this Bill of pains and penalties against his creed, and the speeches, which were an aggravation of it, he not only appealed to • them, but to the Catholics of Ireland, in aggregate meeting assembled on the 29th ult., in the Retunda at Dublin, w i t h reference to this Bill, and to that of the Honourable Member for Bodmin—the 'Religious Houses Bill. T hat aggregate meeting was convened by a requisition having 1,400 signa tures, amongst which were those of four Roman Catholic archbishops, twenty-three bishops, and one vicar capitular, representing a see now vacant. It was signed also byof the Roman Catholic Members of that House , and by 1,250 the Catholic clergy and laity of Ireland. The resolutions passed at that meeting were unanimously concurred in. They might not value their opinions , perhaps, but they were the opinions, nevertheless, of seven millions of people combined against their Bill , and themselves (the Govern ment). He had heard it said that what the Pope had done was an insult to the Queen. Now he was not given boasting, but he "felt bound to say, that there was no p art of the United Kip,gdom wiere her,Majesty's name was held in more affectionate remembrance than it was in Ire land— (El ear, hear) and particularly by the Roman Ca tholics of, Ireland. The Noble Lord at the head of the Go vernment was running the risk of breaking up that affec tionate loyalty with, which the Queen was there esteeme d ; for whilst they Were prepared to adhere to their allegiance, even at the risks of their lives, they were prepared, to sacrifice their lives rather than see their ancient creed insulted.—(hear, hear, and cheers.) The resolutions to which he adverted vindicated the cause ofreligious liberty and declared that the. Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Bill was an intolerable:violation of it.—(Hear, hear.) And far ther than that; they declared that opposition not only to the Bill itself, but to the Administration by which it bad been introduced. Nnw need he blush for what he had said ? If he did, seven millions of people ought to blush with him, for they bad endorsed his own opinions.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. and Venerable Baronet, who usually occupied the place he then sat in, called his party in the House " the brigade," and himself the leeder of it. To that charge he pleaded not guilty. He was not the leader, but he was one of their body, and he would say that it had only combined to protect itself against aggression. They maintained a state religion in' Ireland, whicli Seven Millions of Roman Catholics, out of a population of eight; millions, .bowed to in submission. They forced the majority. to support the creed of the minority, and although they (the Catholics) yieldedywitli Christian for beateureeth,ey. avd not lee them eilone, but passed a Bill, • by which if MurrayM should sign his name to a priest's appo i n tment, he, would be fined 100 1 ., and in default" b e sentenced to the common felons' gaol.' Bat he (Mr. Aleseaolds) doubted very. much whether the Bill would pass. Lord Stanley had said were he in power he would endeavour. to pass a resolution Condemning the aggres sion, and then, he'would get a Select Committee to inquire into the relations- subsisting between Roman Catholics and the State. The Noble Lord at the head of the Government ‘‘ having said, we must do semeth ' ing," although Honourable Gentlemen on . his:(Mr. Reynoldsa) side of the House said, " They are doing nothing," and the Hon. Baronet who usu ally occupied that, place said, "it is a good Bill—it is not so good a Bill as I could wish ; but still it is a good Bill." It was a bad Bill fa . the Roman Catholics, or else it would not have got so good a name from the Protestant watch-dog.— (Cheers and laughter.) He would implore of the Noble Lord, now at the eleventh hour, to withdraw his Bi ll. He was not . anxious i to remove the Noble , Lord from office, but as this her who sa rn id . a declaration' of war against his country and religion, he . should oppose it. . Mr. SPOONPIi said be did not agree with the lion. Mem- . Pope. He coul the j :adoption of this resolution would destroy the Bill conduct of this ney were only called upon to declare that the and n other Governments had encouraged the it was true. who brought it forwa At refuse to affirm that resolution, because the with the time he wished to state that he had no sympathy Undoubtedly they thought' nor forward, speech of the lion. Gentleman contrary woo would with those who supported it. considered they would destroy the Bill, but teach a r r t sson to the Government, that that it would etrengthen it, those they sought to conciliate hbeecoanusteheit would not be satisfied. No Mi n i s try could do otherwis e than pr esent Government resigned, another on with the Bill. If the would w ould bring ip a more stringent lie saw no danger in be found which the delay, but great da n ger in refusing to affirm the resolu lion. With, thes e views he sh ould veto in n support of the amendment. Lord J. RUSSELL—I should hardly have b necess ary to speak at th is sta g e o f the debate, butt itught is le that some part of.the House at least may be misledp pas- sible the stateme nt which fell from so distinguished a Member of the House as the Hon. Member for Dorsetahire. Th e Hon. Member said, 4 , Here is a proposition laid before the House, and lam obliged to say `aye or no' to that proposi-t tions" Now, nothing can be a more mistaken view of the question.—(Hear, hear.) The real question is one of a totally diffe -cut nature. The real question is this—a Bill is introduced by the Members of the Gov theernment, and which upon its second reading, met with support of y I believe, to 95. The large. majority—upwards of 4 . 30 , House having thus approved of the s econd reading of this Bill, it is now p r oposed, in the us ual course of our proceed ings, to is, into Committee upon the Bill, and the leaye t regular, he' queitibif roivied time the 'Speaker -do• chair ;" upon which an lion. Member gate up and moves a vote of censure upon the Government, which, as be says, will sweep away the Bill and the Government; and Lion. Gentle men supported the Bill on the second reading take ad vantage of this paltry and shabby proceeding-( Hear, hear) -to vote against a Bill which on the second reading they haet supported. -( Hear, hear.) Sir; the bare technical questiart will not be-to affirm or to deny the proposition of toe 'lnes Member for Stafford. The regular motion is, that you no* leave the choir, and the question you will have to put is, that those words stand part of the question, so that there is not the least foundation for saying that the Hon. Member is obliged, if he approves of that proposition, and thinks it true, to vote against the motion.-(Hear. ) It is the reverse of accurate, and it is quite astonishing that an Hon. and Leatned Member of his experience should be thus misle'. Well, then with less authority, at an earlier part of the evening; :the Noble Lord the Member for Colchester says that it is quite impossible that he can refuse his assent to that proposition-that it is merely a proposition that two and two make four, mid that he cannot possibly deny it. I really think that the Noble Lord is not in such a di lemma as he seems to suppose he is, because, with regard to any other Bill that he was favourable to, suppos ing that identical proposition to be made, and an Hon. Member, were to rise and were to say, " Before the Speaker leaves the chair I have a curious arithmetical proposition to lay before the House, that two and two make four," would the Noble Lord say, " I shall not think it necessary to discuss that proposition; If anybody can bring any arguments against it, let him do so, but that arithmetical proposition must be discussed before we can possibly think of going into Committee."-(Hear, hear, and laughter.) Such, Sir, I say is the unfounded excuse for giving a vote for this amendment ; but the Hon. Member for Dorsetshire, and lastly the Hon. Member for Warwickshire, gave an explanation which must be highly edifying to those alembe i rs who think they are going to get rid of the Bill by means of this proposition. They. say, "To be sure, this is a vote of censure upon the Government, and no Govern ment can remain in office with such a vote of censure;" but then Ault haVe a batter Government and a better laugh.) You'll get a better Bill, and the Hon. Member for " W arw ickshire delights in that antie i p ation- (" Hear, hear, from Mr. Spooner)-a better Bill, in his sense of the word, being of course what those other Hon. Gentlemen would re gard as more stringent, more penal, and more persecuting.- (Hear, hear.) Well, then, what is the proposition which they say is so valuable that it is quite impossible to pass it by ? It is this-" That the recent act of the Pope in dividing Eng land into dioceses and appointing bishops thereto was en couraged by the conduct and declarations of her Majesty's Government." Now, Sir, the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last said that those words-and I suppose he has some au thority for that interpretation-apply indeed to the present Government, and also to preceding Governments. Then I think I understand a little better what it is now proposed to affirm. It is, that all the conduct of recent Governments with respect to Roman Catholics has been erroneous; that those Measures of fairness, of liberality, of justice, as I think them, were totally erroneous, and have led to this aggression. Now, Sir, I totally deny that proposition, .and I totally deny also that the conduct of recent Governments, or of the present Government, has been legitimately the cause of the present Papal aggression ; fOr, Sir, I should say according to all the usual motives of action (unless you suppose that there was some Peculiar meanness and unworthiness in those who ad vised the See of Rome upon this occasion), that if a Govern ment treated the Roman Catholics with indulgence-if they were disposed to listen to any of their grievances, and to obtain, if possible, a remedy for those grievances, that so far from that being a reason for throwing every ,insult upon the Crown of the country-so far from its being a reason for attempting, against the consent of the Government, to establish titles and dominion in this country, it would, on the contrary, be a reason for the head of a body which *as thus treated to pay some deference to the Government which had been thus liberal towards them, to consult them, if necessary, and, at all events, not wantonly to insult and exasperate, the country, the Government of which had behaved to them in a friendly manner.- (Cheers.) Now, Sir, I believe that I should be casting a very unjust imputation upon the Pope if I were to 'esty that his conduct had been actuated by motives different from this, and that every 'act of indulgence and liberality. had only tended to provoke him to aggression and insult. I think I should be accusing him of most unworthy motives were I to say so. What 1 do believe is, that the acts of the present and former Goverriinents have not been at all the cease of the present aggression.-(Hear, hear.) I am . ready to defend the con duct of those with whom I have acted during the time I have been in Parliament, and of those who preceded me, and who acted in a manner to restore the Roman Catholic rights of which they were deprived at that time without justice.- (Hear, hear.) All that conduct of 24 years, from 1805 to 1829, and of 22 years, from 1829 to the present time-all that policy of conciliation towards the Roman Catholics has been, I believe, a wise policy, and I am not disposed to de part in any degree from the defence of tha t p olic y .-(Hear.) But, Sri, I do believe that this aggression has been part and parcel of a great plan which is aimed against civil and reli giousi liberty in every country n Europe.--(Great cheering.) 1 believe that, whether the Government of this country had been favourable to Roman Catholics or unfavourable to them, in the present circumstances of the world this attempt would have been made, and I feel the more secure in resist ing this aggression, because I can say that there was nothing in the Conduct of the Government to which I belong, or in the conduct of the Government which immediately preceded us, and nothing in our conduct as a party out of office, which tended in any l way to provoke or to make us justly liable to this aggression.-(Hear. hear.) The Hon. Member for Dublin speaks as if everything were perfectly quiet and un disturbed, and, all persons were living in harmony, until we provoked an outcry and introduced the present Bill. He must recollect that we on our sides were totally guiltless of any act which' could be styled persecution or enmity against Roman Catholics. On the contrary, the only political at tacks which were made upon us were on account of too much favour shown by us to the Roman Catholics; and at that period there arrived that famous rescript, not excited or invited by us, but which came into this country and was thus the cause of the exasperation that ensued.-(Hear, hear.) It was dot, therefore, any aggression or any act upon our part. It was the act of those who advised that aggression, and we know now, by testimony which is to be believed in this matter, by the testimony of the Earl of Shrewsbury, that those who were in the habit of advising the Pope were known enemies of England. We know, likewisee, from other information, that about the time' when that rescript was promulgated it was said, and said by persons who had, I suppose, good resson for saying so, that a measure was being adopted which would set all England in a flame, and create great disturbance among the people of the United Kingdom. Well, I believe that was the object, - and• 1 believe it was to counteract the liberal influence of this country, in Europe, and to enforce the views and plans of those who cannot bear the progress of constitutional, freedom-(Cheers)-I believe it was for that purpose that an aggression was framed which might disturb the mind of England, and excite a dif ference between, the people of England and of 'lreland.- (Hear, hear.) I am unwilling to enter into the details of the Bill, but the Hon. Member for. Dublin has made repre sentations so much at variance with the fact that I cannot but take some notice of them, for he says that we :prohibit Irish bishops from taking their titles, that they have a right to take their titles, and that we now 'propose by a Bill to prohibit them. Now, is it not the casee-I certainly believe it is-that most of.the Roman Catholic bishops in Ireland in their relations with the clergy assume the same sees which are likewise i the sees and dioceses of prelates of the Protes testant Established Church; and, if that be the case, here is an Act whiCh was framed in the 10th year of 'George IV., which says that if any person after the commencement of that Act, other than the person thereunto authorized by law, shall assume or use the name, style, or title .of archbishop of any province, bishop of any bishopric, or dean of any deanery, in Engtend or Ireland, he shall for every such offence forfeit and pay the sum of 1001.- (Hear.) There is the Act which applies to Ireland.' It is not a Bill introduced now for the first time ; but it is an, Act existing upon your statute-books. And yet the Hon. Member for Dublin, and almost every one who speaks on that side of the House, talk as if this was a measure of legislation introduced nosa 'for the first time! Why, they have been Hieing .under it since 1829; and yet they come forward 'now and characterise the Bill we have introduced as one of persecution and penalty ,such as never had been thought of beforel-(Hear, bear.) What we at tempt to meet, and what I think we are bound to attempt to beet, is the assumption of titles, and the assumption of power to govern certain districts .of England, in conse quence of a certain rescr i p t from the Pope of Rome-(Hear, hear) and, had it not been for that rescript, I myself shentd have been perfectly satisfied with the existing state of the law in Ireland.- (Hear, hear.) I do not think it doubtful 'that any question as to the case of that the A rc hbi s hop of Tuam, or the Bishop of Galway , could have been raised would have been met by the jus tice of the case, and that the administration of the law might have been safely left in the same manner in which it has been 'left since 1829.-(llear,l bear.) But it was the attempt to assume titles in England, to assume to rule and govern certain districts in. England, and virtually to assume a temporal sovereignty that cannot be carried into effect without the consent of the Sovereign of the realm-it was this that made legislation necessary.-(Hear.) Now, I wish to explain the reason why I think the House cannot vote on the assumption of the lion. and Learned Member for Dorsetshire, that there is a proposition before them that they must either affirm or deny. It is not, as I apprehend, necessary either to affirm or deny that proposition.-(Hear , bear.) If they choose to act in conformity with their former vote they will go into the consideration of this B ill, discuss its clauses, an examine its provisions; bat if, on the contrary, they wish to take this opportunity of coming to a vote'of censure against the Government, let them take.' that opportunity if they will ; but do not let them say they are under any obligation to do so.-( Hear, hear.) On the contrary, I should have said that the fair course would have been, if they thought it necessary to move as vote of censure, which, according to the Hon. 'Member for Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner), includes' all the measures with regard to Roman Catholics that have for many yeari been carried into execution by successive Governments,,-if that be their in tention, their batter course would have been to bring forward a substantive proposition for the consideration of the House. -(Cheers.) As it is at present, all those, who are opposed to this Bill will vote with them to get rid of the Bill, they themselves, at the same time, wishing to make the Bill more stringent, or to introduce another Bill with severer provi sions.-( Hear, hear.) If they choose to take that course, undoubtedly it is in their power to do so, but I do not think that that is such a course as the people of England expect them totake.- (Cheers.) I think they expect that, what ever may 'be our party differences, the proceeding with this Bill is not the proper occasion to exhibit those differences (Cheers) -but that we ought rather to .tarn our attention, after the second reading of the measure, to devise those mea sures that may be necessary for the security of the Crown and the security of the nation.-(Cheeri.) Whether or not the present provisions are sufficient or insufficient is another question. All we can do is to introduce Such a measure as we think will be sufficient for the purpose.. Iwould not go one inch beyond the necessity of the case, because I wish, while resisting aggression, to maintain that religious liberty which I hope will never be lost in this country.-(Cheers.) Mr. DISRAELI-The Noble Lord . has correctly placed before the House the form in which this question will now be put. He has said there is no neceasity, to give any opinion on the amendment proposed by the Hon. Member for Staf forda and the statement of the Noble Lord, so far as regards the forms of the House, cannot be controverted. But the amendment, is, to express it briefly, that the recent act of the Pope was encouraged by the conduct mid declarations of her Majesty's Government, -a very important assumption, a statement 1 have virtually made myself often and often in this House in the course of these discussions, and a statement that months ago I expressed in a letter to my constituents.- ( Hear, hear.) Now , w hen a gentleman' not connected with me or my friends near me in any political way places that statement before the House, if were to take advantage of the plea of the Noble Lord, and say thatby the forms of the House I was not bound to give any opinion on the question, I think I should be taking a , mean and shabby course. - (Cheers.) If this issue is placed before me I cannot avoid giving an opinion on the subject.-(Cries of a Hear, hear.") cannot shrink from expressing an opinion on this occasion that I have attempted to establish on other occasions in the course of the session, and which, from all I have heard from the Govern ment, after giving to their statements and their arguments the maturest consideration, I cannot in my con science find yreafton to doubt th e 'fie eufacyjof.-41/ear hear.) is it true, or is it not true, that the aggreseion of the Pope has been encouraged by the conduct and declarations of her Majesty's Government?—(Cheers.) Is it a fact or not that the First lllinister of the Crown has himself, in this House, expressed an opinion that he saw no harm in Roman Ca tholic bishops assuming territorial titles in the realm of England ?—(Oteers.) Is that a fact, or is it not, in the ex perience of every Hon. Member of this House, and still in the throbbing memory of the country?—(Cheers.) Is it a fact or is it not, that a Secretary of State in another place expressed his hope that the Rtmtan Catholic bishops of the United Kingdom would take their seats as Peers of Parlia ment in the House of Lords? Is that a circumstance of which there is any doubt ? And is it not an opinion that still echoes in the indignant ears of the people of England ? Is it a fact, or is it not, that a member of the Cabinet was sent as plenipotentiary to Italy, and held frequent and encouraging conversations with his Holiness?—(llear, hear.) Is it a fact, or is it not, that, influenced by his counsels, and animated by his presence, the Pope him self condescendingly intimated to him that he was about to interfere with the domestic affairs of this country? ("No.") " There is something that affects Englaml," was the intimation, according to the statement of the Noble Lord opposite, and I at the time expressed my surprise that the p l en ip o tentiary did not deem it necessary to inquire what it was. Lord J. RUSSELL—I wish to state what I did say. I observed that it had been stated that the Pope used these words, but that Lord Minto denied that he ever heard any thing of the sort.—(Cheers. ) Mr. DISRAELI-1s it a tact, or is it not, that the Vice royalty of Ireland was in indirect communication with the Pope, and expressed affection for his person, and reverence for his character?—(Cheers.) If these be facts, I ask, whether, in the language of this resolution, the aggression of the Pope may not fairly be described to have been encou raged by the conduct and declarations of her Majesty's Go vernment?—(Hear, hear.) I do not now enter into the question of the policy of that conduct on the part of the Government. I do not now ask whethee it was proper, or politic, or constitutional, or religious. What I ask is, if these statements be facts, how can we avoid giving our assent to the amendment?—(Hear, hear.) Whet is the danger of this amendment? According to the statement of the Hon. Gen tleman who introduced it, his object is not to destroy the Government, but their Bill; but the highest authority in the House will inform us that it is not in the power of any one who moves such an amendment to injure the Bill one whit, because it will be in the power of any Member of the House to proceed with the measure. — (Hear, hear) Is there any . one who actually believes that the existence of any legisla tive Act against Papal aggression is in jeopardy by assenting to the truth contained in this amendment?—(Hear.) If so, then what is the peril if the House declares formally that to be true the accuracy of which no one denies ?—(Hear, hear.) But is there any adyantagb in it? The Hon. Member for Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner) says he looks to the whole legislation of the Government for many years with respect to the Church of Rome. I have opposed measures of former Governments on these subjects myself, and I might with ad vantage widen the issue, but I will not take refuge in such a line of policy. No one has denied that the conduct of the exist ing Government in those notorious instances to which I have referred has encouraged this aggressive conduct on the part of the Pope of Rome; and I believe that will be the opi nion of the country now, as it has been from the first.— (Hear.) Then, is there any great waste of time in this discus sion ? The Noble Lord boasts of his large majority in favour of legislation three months ago ; but the greatness of the ma jority has not tended to accelerate the measure.—(Hear, hear.) Surely, therefore, this night is not to be grudged if it terminate in a profitable result, and if any advantage is to be gained. There has been delay since the aggressive act occurred ; and, though a vast majority of the House came to the result that it was wise and necessary to legislate, still nothing could be more salutary than by a resolution of this kind to give now a great and dispassionate expression of opinion with respect to the causes and events which we have all so much lamented (Hear, hear.) That is the prac tical result of the amendment. We state calmly that, in our opinion, the conduct of the Government has encouraged this aggression, while we are prepared to support even that Government in such a measure as will check and control it. —( Hear, hear.) I sea nothing in the position of the House adopting this amendment but such as is calculated to raise the House in pubic estimation ; and in acceding to it, I, for one, believe that we shall be performing a great public duty.—(Cheers.) Mr. ROEBUCK did not call the recent conduct of the Roman Catholics in England aggression, because he consi dered that it had been directly encouraed by the conduct towards the Roman Catholics of her Majesty's Government. Now, up to the time of the Noble Lord ' s unfortunate letter, did he at all consider that conduct of the Government objec tionable? On. the contrary, he regarded it as most wise, politic, and generous. Called upon as he was to vote as a matter of fact, whether he thought the Government had en couraged the conduct of the Roman Catholics, he could not do otherwise than say " aye." Mr. DEEDES had hitherto supported the Bill of her Ma jesty's Government, with the purpose, if possible, of rendering it more efficacious in Committee, and he could not consent to stop its progress. Sir T. ACLAND called upon the House to allow no other consideration to interfere with the progrees of a measure ab solutely required to put down Papal aggression. The House then divided, and the numbers were, — For Mr. Urquhart's resolution ... 201 Against it 2 8 0 Majority for Ministers ... —79 The Committee on the Ecclesiastical Assumption Titles Bill was then adjourned to Monday next, to be made the first order of the day. On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, it was agreed that the House at its rising do adjourn to Monday next. THE KAFIR COMMITTEE. Mr. KEOGH moved that the Committee on Kafir Tribes consist of 17 Members, and that Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Sadleir, and Colonel Dunne be added to that Committee. On the first name, Sir G. GREY proposed that the names should be postponed till Monday, when the names his Noble Friend (Lord J. Rus sell) spoke of would appear on the votes. Mr. HINDLEY said he thought some one connected with the African Missionary Societies should be placed on the Committee. - - Mr. KEOGH having persisted in his motion, Sir B. HALL said he must decidedly object to Mr. Rey nolds being placed on the Committee, because he had de clared, solemnly and openly, that he would oppose every proposition of the Government, right or wrong, and there fore could not be regarded as an impartial person.—(Hear, hear.) If the Hon. Member spoke truth, he must go into Committee pledged by that solemn avowal to be in different to the ends of justice.—(Hear, heir.) But for that statement he would have been a very proper member of the Committee. Mr. REYNOLDS rose to vindicate himself. The Hon. Baronet had had the boldness—he would not ray audacity, for that would be unparliamentary—to sae he (Mr. Rey nolds) would go into a Committee where he was called on to do justice between party and party, in the same way as he would go into the lobby to record a vote of want of confi dence in Government. There was no analogy between a vote is Committee and a vote in the House. Ihe Nestor of Reformers said once he would vote black was white for his party, but ho had nevertheless been placed on Committee after Committee. Was he (Mr. Reynolds) to be excluded because he declared that, so long as Government had charge of a certain Bil, he would look on his votes as expressions of want of confidence? Mr. J. WILLIAMS must, as a Welchman, express the deep indignation which he felt, and he was sure the whole principality would feel, at there being no lion. Member from Wales on this Committee.—(Great laughter.) A country man of his, who had lately returned from Kafirland, had told him there was a great similarity bet Ween the Kafir and the Welch languages, and he therefore flibl i tiht that if a Com mission on this subject was appointed, on. Members from Wales should be upon it.—(Great laughter.) After a conversation, in which several Hon. Members took part, Mr. KEOGH said he was willing to, withdraw his motion, but, Lord NAAS suggesting that it would be better to adjourn the debate, moved the adjournment accordingly., The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion ... 25 Against it 1 .. 87 Majority Sir J. Y. BULLER then moved that the House adjourn, and it was agreed to without a division. The adjournment took place at a Quarter before Two. Mr. Hutchins paired, against the repeal of the malt-tax with Mr. Baldock. The Marquis of Worcester paired, with Colonel D. Pen nant, for Mr. Cayley's motion for the repo .1 of the malt-tax. Mr. Sidney paired, with Mr. T. Smith, on Lord Naas's motion. Mr. Richards, who was in favour of Lord Nasits motion, paired with Mr. Ord, who was against it. COURT CIRCULAR. Her Majesty and his Royal Highness the Prince Albert, accompanied by their Royal Highnesses the Prince and Princess of Prussia, and the Prince Frederick Wiliam of Prussia, left Buckingham Palace at two o'clock yesterday afternoon fur Stafford House, to honour the Duke and. Duchess of Sutherland with a visit. The royal suite con sisted of the Countess of Gainsborough, the Countess A. de Harke, Colonel the Hon. Charles Grey, Lieutenant-Colonel Francis Hugh Seymour, and Count Goltz. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent attended by Lady Fanny Howard, also honoured the Duke and Duchess of Sutherland with her company. A select circle, including the Marquis of Westminster, the Marquis and Marchioness of Breadalbane, the Countess (Dowager) of Carlisle, Earl Granville, and the Hon. Charles Howard, had the honour of meeting the Queen. Luncheon was served to her Majesty and the august circle, after which the QU3ell and Prince Albert, the Duchess of Kent, the Prince and Princess of Prussia. and ,Prince Frederick William, , were conducted through the Picture Gallery and State Rooms to view the valuable collection of pictures. The Queen and Prince Albert, the Duchess of Kent, and the Prussian Royal Family took their departure from Stafford House at four o'clock. Their Royal Hignesses Prince Albert, the Prince and Princess of Prussia, Prince Frederick William, and the Princess Louisa of Prussia, visited the Exhibition of the Industry of all Nations yesterday morning. The royal suite consisted of the Countess A. de Harke, Countess Oriolla, Colonel Hon. C. Grey, Lieutenant-Colonel F. H. Seymour, Count Pukler, Major Von Bayen, Count Goltz, Colonel Fisher, and Lieutenant Heinz. The Queen, with the Princess Royal and the Princess Alice, accompanied by the Princess of Prussia and the Prin cess Louisa of Prussia, took, a drive yesterday afternoon in an open landau and four. Prince Albert, the Prince of Prussia, and Prince Frederick William of Prussia, rode out on horseback. Colonel the Hon. C. Grey and Lieutenant- Colonel F. H. Seymour, were in attendance on horseback. Th e Princesses Helen a and Louisa took an airing yester day in an open carriage and four. Prince Edward of Saxe Weimar visited the Prince and Princess of Prussia yesterday, at Buckingham Palace. Her Majesty and his Royal Highness Prinee Albert, ac companied by their Royal Highnesses the Prince and Princess of Prussia, and Prince Frederick William of Prussia, ho noured the performances of the French plays last evening with their presence. The Royal suite consisted of the Countess A. de Harke, the Countess Oriolla, the Hon. Eleanor Stanley, the Hon. Beatrice Byng, Lord Waterpark, Count Pokier, Count Goltz,' Colonel Honourable Charles Grey, Lieutenant-Colonel F. H. Seymour, and Lieutenant von Heinz. Her Royal highness the Duchess of Kent, attended by Lady Fanny Howard and Lord James P. Murray, a l so h o .. nourel the performance of the French plays with her pre sence last evening. Her Majesty's private band attended after dinner, in Buckingham Palace, on Thursday evening, and performed the following pieces : Overture (Op. 44) Kalliwoda. Auber. Aria, " Acteon" Duetto, " Die lustigan Weiber von Windsor" Otto Nicolai. Pas de Schal, " La Bayadere" Auber. Der Gruss un Alpenlande Marsch Kuhaer. A Cabinet Council was held yesterday, at the. Foreign office, Downing-street. The Ministers present were Lord John Russell, the Lord Chancellor, the Marquis, of Lana , LONDON, SATTJRDAt EVE TING, . MAY 10, dowiv., tin Earl of pinto, Sir George Grew, Viscount P4l- merston, lied Grey, the Chancellor of the Exchequlr, Sir Fran ,- !is Baring, Lord Broughton, the Earl of Carlisle, the Eight lion. Henry Lahouchere, the Marquis of Clanricarde, and the Right lion. Fox Maule. The Council sat an hour and a half. Mr. Sheriff Gordon, of Mid Lothian, Mr. Logan White, of Kellerstein, Mr. Gibson Thomson, and Mr. Murray, had an interview with Sir George Grey, a', the Home-office, -yes terday. The Lord Advocate was present as the interview. Mr. Currie, M.P.. had an interview yesterday with the Chancellor of the Exchequer at his official res;dence in Downing-street. Mr. Pressly and Mr. Timm had also an interview with the Right Hon. Baronet. Dispatches were sent off yesterday from the Colonial office to the Governor of the Oanadas and the Goveruors of the other North American colonies. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. From tLe Kies and Proceedings of the House of Commons ) FRIDAY, MAY 9. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BILL. Order for Committee read; Motion made, and Question proposed, " That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair :" - Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words " the recent act of the Pope in dividing England into dioceses, and appointing bishops thereto, was encouraged by the conduct and declarations of her Majesty's Government," instead thereof :—Question put," That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question." The House divided : MAJORITY—AYES, 280. Abdy, Sir Thomas Fitzpatrick, J. W. Ord, William . Arland, Sir T. Fitzroy, Henry Osborne, Ralph Adair, Hugh E. Fitzwilliam, G. W. Owen, Sir John Adair, R. Shafto Foley, J. H. Paget, Lord A. Aglionby, 11. A. Fordyce, A. D. Paget, Lord C. Alcoek, Thomas Forster, Matthew Paget, Lord G. Anderson, Arthur Fortescue, J. W. Pakington, Sir J. Anson, Colonel Freshfleld, J. W. Palmerston, Vis. Anson, Viscount Glyn, G. C. Parker, John Anstey, Thomas Goddard, A. L. Pechell, Sir G. Armstrong, Sir A. Gordon, Admiral Peel, Sir Robert Armstrong, R. B. Granger, T. C. Perfect, Robert Ashley, Lord Greene, Thomas Peto, Samuel M. Bustle w, John Grentell, C. Pascoe Pigott, Francis Bailey, Joseph Greaten, Charles W. Pilkington, James Baines, M. T. Grey, Sir G. Pinney, William Baring, Henry B. Grey, Ralph W. Plowden, W. 11. Baring. Sir F. Grosvenor, Lord R. Plumptre, J. P. Barrow, W. H. Guest, Sir John Powlett, Lord W. Bass, M. T. Hale, R. B. Pusey, Philip Bell, Jacob Raiford, Sir Henry Rawdon, Colonel Benbow, Jehn Hall, Sir B. Reid, Colonel Berkeley, Admiral Hallyburton, Lord Rendlesham, Lord Berkeley, Henry F. Hamner, Sir John Ricardo, Osman Berkeley, C. L. Harcourt, G. G. Rice, E. R. Bernal, Ralph liardcastle, J. A. Rich, Henry Bethel', Richard Ilastie, Alexander Hominy, Colonel Birch, Sir T. • Hastie, Archibald Romilly, Sir John Blackstone, W. S. Hatchell, John Rumbold, C. E. Bouverie, E. P. Hawes, Ben]: Russell, Lord John Bowles, Admiral Hayes, Sir E. Russell, Edward S. Boyle, Colonel Ileadlam, T. E. Russell, F. C. Broadley, Henry Heald, James Sanders, George Broeklehurst, J. Heathcoat, John Sandars, Joseph Brockman, E. D. Ileathcote, Sir G. j. Scrope, G. P. Brotherton,'J. Heneage, G. H. Seymer, H. K. Brown, 11. Heneage, Edward Seymour, H. D. Brown, W. Hervey, Lord A. Seymour, Lord Bulkeley, Sir R. B. Heywood, James Shelburne, Earl of Bunbury, E. R. Ilindley, C. Sheridan, R. B. Buxton, Sir E. Hobhouse, T. B. Sidney, Alderman Carter, J. B. Holland, Robert Smith, M. T. Caulfeild, J. M. Ilotham, Lord Sinollett, A. Cavendish, C. C. Howard. C. W. G. Somerville, Sir W. Cavendish, G. H. Howard, E. G. Sotheron, T. H. S. Cavendish, W. G Howard, Sir R. Spearman, H. J. Cayley, E. S. Hughes, W. B. Stanley, W. 0. Chaplin, W. J. Hutt, William Stanfield, W. R. C. Childers, J. W. Inglis, Sir R. Stanton, W. H. Clay, James Jermyn, Earl Staunton, Sir:G. Clay, Sir W. Johnstone, Sir:J. Stuart, Lord J. Clerk Sir G. Kershaw, James Stuart, 11. Clifford, H. M. King, P. J. Talbot, C.R.i Cockburn, Sir A. Labouchere, H. Ihicknesse, R. A. Cocks, T. S. Langston, J. H. Thompson, Colonel Collins, William Lawley, B. R. Thornely, T. Copeland, Alderman Legh, G. C. Tollemache, F. J. Cowper, W. P. Lemon, Sir C. Tollemache, John Craig, Sir W.G. Lennard, T. B. Townley, R. G. Crowder, R. B. Lewis, Sir T. Townshend. Captain Cubitt, William Lewis, G. C. Train, George Currie, Raikes Lindsay, Colonel Trevor, G. R. Curteis, H. M. Littleton, E. R. Trevor, Thomas Dalrymple, Captain Locke, Joseph Tufnell, Henry Dasliwood, Sir G. Lockhart;A. E. Verner, Sir W. Davie, Sir H. Loveden, Pryse Vesey, Thomas Dawson, T. V. Lygon, Gen. Villiers, Viscount Deedes, W. Mackinnon, W. A. Vivian, J. H. D'Eyncourt, C. T. Macnaghten, Sir E. Wakley, T. Douglas, Sir C. M'Gregor, John Walter, John Drumlanrig, Viscount M'Taggart, Sir J. Watkins, Colonel Drummond, Henry Mangles, R. D. Wawn, J. T. Duckworth, Sir J. Marshall, William Wellesley, Lord C. Duff, George S. Martin, C. W. West, F. R. Duff, James Masterman, John Westhead, J. P. Duke, Sir James Matheson, Alex. Wigram, L. T. Duncan, Viscount Matheson, Sir J. Willcox, Brodie Duncan, George Matheson, Colonel Williams, John Duncuft, John Maule, Fox Williams, W. Dundas, Admiral Melgund, Viscount Willyams, H. : Dandas, Sir D. Milner, W. M. Williamson, Sir M. East, Sir J. B. Milnes, R. M. Willoughby, Sir R. Egerton, Sir P. Milton, Viscount Wilson, James Ellice, E., jun. Moffatt, George Wilson, Matthew Elliot, John E. Molesworth, Sir W. Wodehouse, E. Emlyn, Viscount Moncreiff, James Wood, Sir cuarles Enfield, Viscount Moody , C. A. Wood, Sir W. P. Estcourt, J. B. Morris, David Wortley, Euston, Earl Mostyn, E. M. L. Wrightson, W. B. Mulgrave, Earl of Wyvill, Marmaduke Evans, J. Evans, William Muntz, G. F. Ewart, William Nicholl, J. Fergus, John Ferguson, Colonel Ferguson, Sir R. Ogle, S. C. Norreys, Norreys, Lord Ferguson, D. TELLIES. Ilayter, W. G. Hill, Lord M. MINORITY—NOES, 201. Adderley, C. B. Fellowes, E. Mundy, William Archdall, Captain Floyer, John Murphy, F. S. Arkwright, George Forbes, William Napier Joseph Arundel, Earl of Forester, G. C. Neeld, John Bagge, William Fox, S. L. Newport, Viscount Bagot, William Fox, Richard M. Noel, Gerald J. Baillie, 11. J. Fox, W. J. O'Brien, Sir T. Baird, James Frewen, C. IL O'Connell, John Baldock, E. H. Fuller, A. E. O'Connell, M. J. Baldwin, C. B. Gallwey, Sir W. P. OTlaherty, Antkony Bankes, G. Galway, Viscount Ossulston, Lord Barron, Sir H. Gaskell, J. M. Oswald, Alexander Bateson, Thomas Gilpin, R. T. Packe, C. W. Bennet, Philip Gooch, E. S. Plgot, Sir Robert Bentinck, Lord H. Goold, Wyndham Ponsonby, C. F. Beresford, William Grace, 0 . D. Portal, Melville Berkeley G. F. Grattan, Henry Power, Dr. Bernard, Viscount Greene, John Power, Nicholas Best, John Grogan, Edward Renton, J. C. Blair, Stephen Guernsey, Lord Repton, G. W. J. Blake, M. J. Hall, Colonel , Reynolds, John Blakemore, R. Halsey, T. P. • Richards, Richard lllandford, Marquis Hamilton, G. A. Roche, E. B. Blewitt, Reginald Hamilton, J. H. Roebuck, J. A. Bolder°, li. G. Harris, Captain Raiford, Francis Booker, T. W. Henley, J. W. Rushout, Captain Booth, Sir R. G. Harries, J. C. Sadleir, John Brernridge, Richard Higgins, George Scholefield, William Brisco, M. Ilildyard, R. C. Scott, Francis Broadwood,:11. Ilildyard, T. B. Scully, Francis Brooke, Lord Hill, Lord E. Seaham, Viscount Bruce, Lord E. Hodgson, W. N. Sibthorp, Colonel 13ruen, Colonel hope, Henry T. Smythe, George Buck, L. W. Hope, Alexander Somers, J. P. Buller, Sir J. Y. Hornby, John Somerset, Captain Bunbury, William Howard, P. H. Spooner, It. Burghley, Lord Jolliffe, Sir W. IL Stafford, Augustus Burrell, Sir C. Keating, Robert Stanford, J. F. Butler, P. S. Keogh, William Stanley, Edward Cabbell, B. B. Kerrison, Sir E. Stanley, E. H. Carew, W. H. P. Knightley, Sir C. Stuart, John Castlereagh, Visc. Knox, Colonel Sturt, 11. G. Christopher, It. Knox,7W. S. Sullivan, Michael Christy, Samuel Langton, W. H. P. Talbot, J. H. Clive, H. B. Lawless, Cecil Taylor,;Thomas E. Cobbold, J. C. Lennox, Lora A. Tenison, Edward K. Cochrane, A. D. Lennox, Lord H. G. Thesiger, Sir F. Colvile, C. R. Lewisham, Viscount Thompson, Alderman Compton, H. C. Long, W. Towneley, John Conolly, Thomas Lopes, Sir Ralph Trelawny, J. S. Cotton, W. 11. Lowther, Colonel Trollope, Sir J. Crawford, W. S.' Lowther, Henry Tyler, Slr G. Devereux, John T. Mackenzie, W.F. Tyrell, Sir J. Dick, Quintiu MlCullagh, W. T. Verner, Sir W. Disraeli, B. Maher, N. Villiers, F. W. Dod, J. W. Meagher, Thomas Vyse, R. Dodd, G. Mandeville, Viscount Waddington, H. S. Drax, J. S.'W. Manners, Lord G. Wegg-Prosser, F. Duncombe, A. Manners, Lord J. Wclby, G. E. Duncombe, 0. March, Earl of Whitesid, am Jes Dandas, George Mannsell , T. P. Williams e , T. P. Dunne, Colonel Maxwell, Hon. J. P. Worcester, Marquis Du Pre, C. G. Meru, Sir Henry Wynn, H. W. Edwards, Henry Miles, William Wynn, Sir W. Evelyn, William J. Miles, P. W. S. Yorke, E. T. Fagan, James Monsen, William TV...LIARS. Farnham, E. B. Moore, G. H. Urquhart, David Ferrer, James Mullings, J. R. Naas, Lord KAFIR TRIBES. Committee to consist of seventeen Members :—Motion made, and Question , proposed, " That Mr. Reynolds be added to the Committee:'—Debate arising; Motion made, and Question put, " That the Debate be now adjourned." The House divided MINORITY—AYES, 25. Arkwright, George — Hobhouse, T. B. Sullivan Michael Beresford, William Hodgson, W. N. Taylor, Thomas E. Blake, M. J. Keating, Robert Verner, Sir W. Broadwood, H. Lawless, Cecil Vyse, R. H. Christopher. R. Maher, N. Waddington, H. S. Cobbold, Johu C. Reynolds, John Dunne, Colonel Sadleir, John : TELLERS. Feßowes, Edward Scully, Franc'? Keogh, William Goold, Wnydliam Seaham, Viscount Naas, Lord Grogan, Edward Sib thorp, Colonel MAJORITY-NOES, 87. Adderley, C. B. Fitzpatrick, J. W. Pigott, Francis Aglionby, H. A. Foley, J. H. Pilkington, JameS Armstrong, Sir A. Fortescue, J. W. Plowden, W. H. Baines, M. T. Gaskell, J. M. Ricardo, Osman Baring, Sir F. T. Greene, Thomas Rich, Henry Bass, M. T. Greaten, C. Pascoe Russell, F. C. Bell, Jacob Grentell, Charles W. Seymour, Lord Bellow, R. M. Grey, Sir George Smith, M. Tucker Berkeley, C. L. G. Grey, R. W. 1 1 3 1 e o r o n th al, S B ir alt G. Bate Hall, Sir B. lle% John Brotherton, Joseph Hawes, Benjamin Buller, Sir Y. Carew, W. P. Carter, J. B. Childers, J. W. Coctburn, Ski l. Iteneage, G. H. Hindley, Charles Hernby, John Smollett, A. Somerville, Sir W. Sotheron, T. Spooner, Richard Stanton, W. S. Bunbury, E. H. Stuart, Lord J. Stuart, 11. Howard, C.W. G. Tenison, E. K. _ Hutt, William Kershaw, JameS Lewis, G. C. Loveden, Pryse W. Duncuft, John Moncreiff, James Th o mpson, Colonel Thornely, Thomas Tufnell, Henry Cowper, W. F. Tyler, Sir G. Craig, Sir W. G. Hawn, J.T. Deedes, W. Mackinnon, 'Williams, John Duckworth, Sir J. Martin , C. W. Willyams, H. Duncan, George Maule, Fox Wilson, James Wood, Sir Charlet Dundas, Admiral Mostyn , E . M. Wood, Sir W. P. Dundas, Sir David Mulgr ave, Earl e wpm, 11. W. Elliot, John Paget , Lord Claren : c Estacnosu, ilii r w t, J. B. Palmerston. B. Paget, Lord er W. G. n, Viscount Hill Ferguson, Sir R. Parke r, John TrIXERS „ Ilayt,rd Marcus FEv , Lo --............1.0..... GCr .............. NORTHUMBERLAND Ilouse.—His Grace the Duke of Northumberland appears determined not to do things by halves—in addition to the privilege granted to the public of viewing his suburban residence, Sion House, which we refer red to a few days since, his Grace has given instructions to have the state apartments at Northumberland House, Char ing-cross, also shown on stated day fin e d ch we hemselek, and of yes terday a large num ber of persons avatves kindness of the nob le proprietor. We have no doubt tha pub lic will properly appreciate this act of considerate kindness on the part of the Noble Duke, as we feel satisfied that the conduct r egret t visitors will be such as to leave his Grace no r his liberality , and his confidence in their good cause to feeling and propriety. Great men differ from common ones in moral more Holloway's Pills wonderful ly efficacious eaLrievCoderopLkoiosvle:ro.l—autrneAliayrl..i informed than 1. inp ivnLeil,lreicstiiiilailsqNuTa.l3i Lite.; customer of his (a lady to whom he ecriorcktaeascsisluroshHeimnolilthos tweoafycputhrreaetsooaof eel is at liberty to refer) has been cured by the use of these in valuable Pills of a liver complaint with which she has been trembled for several years ; and so vir ulent nthis that even her li fe was despaired of .ialarming her, state andsh e t r ied Holloway's Pills , the first dose of which rel i eved by continuing their use for a short • pe ds o he has been restored to the enjoyment of perfect health ") sld by all Druggists, and at Professor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand, leOntien. 1851. THE KAFIR WAR. PLYMOUTLI, FRIDAY, MAY 9.—The Guncral Steam s'rew , Navigati on C om p an y' s p a cket Hellespont, Captain Watts, arrived at six if.leck. this 'wining. She left the Cat* at noon ea April 4, Sierra L !one the 20th, and Cape de Venda on the 25 h, and has, thsri:fori-s, a2ooni plished the paassge in rather less than thirty-five days. The intelligence by her makes very little alteration in this comiLion of affairs is the Caps Colony since the last date 3. Sir 11-irry Smith, with about 2,200 troops o all surs, was at King William's Town. Havint , - been rippris; - .d of the intention of the Kafirs to assault Fort Hare with the intention ut rescuing the Hottentot prisoners, he antici pated their attack by moving ugainst theta. Upwards of 100 were, killed, many wounded, and a large number of cattle captured. Ca the part of the British forces only a few rank and the were killed and %rounded. Colonel Mackinnon's patrol from King Town had made a raid ou the Kafirs, destroyed several of their kraals, and, by the aid of the Fingoes, taken a quantity of stock. Sir Harry Smith, having since the desertion of the Cape Mounted Rifles threatened to act only on the . de fensive unless assisted by the colonists , has at length in duced a number of the frontier farmers to join him. They, however, contend that unless the Kaars all along the frontier districts are exterminated no sezurity for life or property can be expected. In consequence of 46 armed Cape Mounted Rifics having connected themselves with the disaffe3ted Hot tentots at Blinkwater, about one half of that body have been disarmed, and 200 of their horses are now appro priated to the me of the levies from the western district. Three or four of the deserters from the Rifle corps have been shot. The Fingoes continue faithful, but the band of Her menus, now led by his son, refuse to surrender to Ge neral Somerset. They hang about Blinkriater, and as sisted the Kaars in their abortive attempts to rescue the Hottentot prisoners. Sandili, with the prophet Umlangeni, was taFO iu t he fastnesses of the Anetolas. Leyola, the T'Slambie chief, who took up a strong po sition on the llehe Neck, interrupting communications between King William's Town and Graham's Town, decamped on the appearance of a strong patrol sent to OXpal him. There has been no open demonstration at Cape Town either favourable or otherwise to the Governor-General, bat the feeling of the inhabitants is for the adoption of some determined course to prevent the protraction of the war. We take the following from the Monthly Despatch of the 3d ult.:— " In our last issue of the 6th of March we gave all the in telligence which had reached Cape Town from the frontier up to that date—the latest being the successful attack upon the rebel Hottentots and Kafirs at Fort Armstrong by the Burghers and the force under General Somerset on the 22d of February ; at that time Sir H. G. Smith, with Colonel Mackinnon, was at King William's Town, and General Somerset's head-quarters were at Fort Ilare. In our post script we also mentioned the suspicions which had been excited by the supposed desertion of a number of Pato's Katirs from Albany, taking with them a large herd of cattle belonging to Mr. Cockcroft, one of their employers. That chief's ignorance of the circumstance is strenuously asserted by him; had it been otherwise, and the desertion been general, this occurrence would have been ominous of further mischief. " In Kafraria, the first operation we have to record is the march of a strong patrol on the 25th of February, under Colonels Mackinnon and Eyre ; which was so far successful as to capture, with the assistance of the Fingoes at Fort Peddie, 1,635 head of cattle, and to devastate the country ; but no other result 'appears to have been the consequence of this march, and the troops returned in two divisions—that under Colonel Erre by way of Fort White and King William's Town on the 28th, the other under Colonel Mackinnon first proceeded to Line Drift. " On the sth of March Colonel Mackinnon marched with 2,500 men and two guns to throw supplies into Forts White and Cox ; ou his return from the latter place, on the 6th, the Kafirs made an attempt to cut off the mule waggons, which the colonel's able arrangements entirely frustrated, and en abled him to inflict a loss upon them of 100 killed and many wounded ; only two of the Hottentot levy were killed and two wounded. " On the 13th another of those unexpected and mysterious occurrences happened at King William's Town, which de monstrate most emphatically the extreme difficulty of dealing with the coloured population of the colony, and of their systematic and deplorable faithlessness : this was the desertion of 70 Hottentots, 46 of them belonging to the Cape Mounted Rifles, including three sergeants. This corps has hitherto been distinguished for its a and loyalty, and the necessity fcr disarming the remainder stationed there, which was done on the following day, besides the party at East London, is a misfortune not easily repaired. The horses and arms of 100 were transferred to a selected number of men belonging to the western levies. What makes the circum stance more remarkable is, that some of them had been long in the force, and were considered decidedly steady, religious men; still more inexplicable is the fact that that portion of this force stationed at Fort Hare, though nearer their Kat River confederates, profess continued and stedfast loyalty to the Government, and are confided in by General Somerset, who mustered them ou the 19th of March, and addressed them respecting the defection of their companions in arms at King William's Town, when they unanimously declared that they would light till the last with their veteran leader. " On the 18th Sir 11. Smith, in censcquence of information received by hint of a contemplated attack on Fort Hare during the absence of General Somerset, marched there from King William's Town; some skirmishing occurred with the Kafirs on his route, which resulted in their loss of 40 or ZO, among whom were three of the deserters from the Cape Mounted Rifles. Only one man was wounded on our side. " These repeated marches and countermarches have led to no practical result bearing upon the fate of the campaign; they have, however, tended to make soldiers of the raw wes tern levies, who were on their arrival undisciplined and un accustomed to act in concert; but, on the other hand, they have excited surprise and distrust among that portion of the coloured population whose continued fidelity is of the greatest importance at the present critical period. It would be far cheaper to bring troops from the Mauritius or St. Helena, and to have reinforcements from England at once, than to prolong the war for an indefinite period by endeavouring to crush the rebellion with the troops on the spot, who are too few to effect anything of consequence, entailing an ultimately ruinous expense, as many more will have to be brought .be fore there can be a semblance of security on the frontier. Moreover, it should be remembered that the Hottentots can not be kept in the field for ever, and that the time for which they were first enlisted has already half expired. " The defection of the Cape Mounted Riflemen greatly en couraged the Kafirs, who assumed an insolent tone, and even attacked some men with a waggon within two miles of King William's Town ; two of the Englishmen accom panying it were severely wounded, and the party had some difficulty in reaching that place. " With respect to events within that colony it was confi dently hoped that the capture and dispersion of the Fort Armstrong traitors would have had a most salutary effect upon the tribes in arms against the colonists; but the tem porary reoccupation of the Kat River districts by rebel bands,. in consequence of the numerous calls upon the services of troops and other untoward events, speedily dispelled any such expectations. The further pro ceedin g s of General So merset in this district on the 25th and 26th of February, and the capture of a quantity of booty and a number of waggons at Philipton Eland's Post, and other p laces on the Kat River, will be found in his dispatch published below. " During the operations against Fort Armstrong, and upon other occasions, the eagerness of our Fingoe allies to capture cattle, whether belonging to friends or foes, has caused their commanders much trouble, while the chaotic confusion of races, and the diversity of interests among the frontier inhabitants, render the conducting of the war in a satisfactory manner one of the most arduous undertakings possible. " On the north-east the Tainbookies are kept in check by the Burghers, but a small party under Commissioner Cole, of about 140 men, composed of Boers, English, Bastards, and Hottentots, who advanced from Sterkaspruit against the Chief Moroise, unsupported, met with a severe reverse, and the English lost nine of their number, who were killed. The troops under Major Warden happily came up and saved the remainder of the party. " Small parties of Kafirs are in the colony doing much mischief, but the occupation of Kafraria by the troops und2r Sir H. G. Smith has no doubt prevented their swarming in the Addo Bush and their other favourite lurking places in former wars. " A public meeting was held at Graham's Town on the t 19th of March, and resolutions were pass ed to the effect tha a memorial should be addressed to his Excellency , pr:Ya in . that he will appoint a judicial commission to a e qu t ir t s into the causes of the present rebellion among the Hottensoc. chiefly coloured inhabitants of the colony. The proceedings Jai referred to the Kat River affair and the conduct of the mis sionaries. "In the Cape Town Gazette of the 27tohuno B rghers of clamation appeared, calling upon tfetlVlaruch a pro the western districts, to the nunbetrhoeM liberal, and from the the front; the pay and allowances are oto proceed to I will be promptly known gallantry and loyalty of the me,z! ho addresses, we have no doubt that his Excellency's all" and cheerfully responded to. England in the Maid " Sir A. Stockenstront sailed for stone on the 23d of March.: full and valuable cargo, con- The Hellespont s_ ha d skies, eight packages contain sisting of ivory, ing specimens of onialluarnal history, 30 packages of sun dries, and gold du st value!! at 1,0001. Her passengers from , Cap Town are—airs. Coleman, children, and servant; Mr. and Mre. Kuhr, child, and two servants; Mr. PsieGregor, of the naval department at Simon's Bay; Mr. W. P. Smith, of the Mixed Commission, Cape Town; M. and Malmo Feillotte, three children, and two s ervants ; and Mr. Richard Sealbrook, of Cape Town. From Sierra Leone—the Chevalier de Guillemard de Arragon, Spanish Consul-General and her Christian Majesty's Judge at Sierra Leone ; Mr. J. B. Elliott, of the barrack department at Sierra Leone ; and Captain Staf ford and six distressed seamen, lately be longing to the brig John Cabot, of Bristol, 158 tong, condemned as unseaworthy while engaged in a trading' voyage on the coast of Africa. Mr. who is is gentleman of colour, has come to England Elliott,On leave of absence, with a view of making arrangements, through the Countess of Huntingdon's connexion, for the propa gation of the gospel in the interior of Africa. Just previous to the departure of the Hellespont from Sierra Leone the commissioners sent by the Governor to treat with the chiefs of the Nunez and Pon rivers had succeeded in their negotiations with the go c hiefs of Nunez, but thole of Potrro tu,d not yet accepted the pro positions of the cammislonere. The successful rest.ilt of this commuxication is likely to be attended with great advantage to these British merchant s who trade on that part of the coast. 'is Commander The Admiralty agent in charge of Robertson, has landed bags from the Cmapaheleo'f.strod Hope, uadrons at Sierra Leone, and Cape Verds, and frourticat. Hitherto the u .. uth by the first the Cape and on the West Coast of 1 . 1 1 ati arrangement Cape mails have been dispatched from y h ia i train starting after ship's arrival, by . w they could have been in London o rida afternoon ;rives they are 110 W detained for the regu mail trai n y , which ar London on aturdl_Ly.2o,...2lill2,: ; _ r_ ______. • ADMIS3ION T O WESTMINSTER ABLEI.— In Conse quence of the large increase in the nutaber o f f ore i gn visitors arriving daily i to mpect the abbey, the d ean an d chapter have appointed two interpreters to assist the ordi nary offi cer s of t h e sacred edifice in explaining its chief feat features. There is no charge for admission to this venerable structure, t h e whole, with the exception of the Chapel of Henry VII., having been opened to the public several years ago, when . the s?r . vants were al s 0 expres s ly f or bidden to ac cept fees from visitors. • BA.TTV'S HIPPODRO. The inauguratioe of the marvellous Crrate in which the coetlibutions of the various neat); earth are arranged for the iiaspectitsa and admit\ myriads of ail sorts and coadittous of men, il4l been unaccotapanied by the production of novelilills contributions to the pushc enterteintaent such as hoes nither:o been unexampled in the metropolis. Amongst such attractive develops-seats of artistic skill the unique tad gigantic structure at Kensington, opened on the ateinorasie Ist of May, under the auspices of Mr. Batty, is eminently entitled to popular !lease. An uercofed oval area, measuring 500 feet by 400, is stureuuded by an amphitheatre rising is seven rows of seats, and cepable of atl'ording accommodation to 14,000 specta tots, ail 'of whom have equal facilities for an unob structed view of the performances, although divided into four classes, at as many different prices of admis sion. The nature and diversity of the amusements presented to the frequenters of this hippo-dramatis nonpareil may be gathered from the following outline of the feats which, in company with a few thousand sight seers, we have had the pleasure of witnessing. First of all, the crimson hangings at the southern extremity being d rawn aside, there issued forth a royal pro cession —herald s glittering in embroidered tabards, knights armed cap-a-pie for the tournament, and gor geously dressed dames on champing palfrey's, preced ing a car in which his Majesty King Henry the Eighth of uxorious memory, and his briefly. beloved consort, Anne Boleyn, Were seated in great majesty. Behind ponies, rode a pair of jesters; and them, on Jerusalem thrice traversing the periphery of the arena in solemn splendeur, the pageant 'vanished whence it came. Next our nervous admiration was commanded by a elack rope acrobat, who performed fearful pranks at a dizzy elevation, and, on the safe descent of the ceenobates, a race ensued between two charioteers in classic garb, the one in scarlet robe being the Automed9n of four bay coursers yoked abreast, and afte r an exiting neck and riho neckin "verdure conte s t , clad" lbearinga„smote th e palm he t from his competitor, flanks of a similar pace, and te e m of greys. Then came a race ri g ht gallantly run n between o t n h d re r o e u m s otdoerbaehjouledk,eyas caotnteastslbspetpwinegen two os triches, mounted by Arab youths, producing an effect as singular as novel. Four equestrians, each bestrid ing a pair of coursers, then displayed their prowess, an d were succeeded by a beautiful horsewoman, whose well trained chesnut displayed an ear for music fully equal to that of the clean mare who was wont to caracole be neath the hand of Pablo Fanque. After a struggle be tween four Spanish muleteers, each borne by as many quadrupeds ' a chariot and a pair race, beautifu ll y con tested by three Romun ladies—an equestrian display by sundry apes, wh o c li ng lik e gr i m d ea th to their ponies' bacl:s—and a hurdle race excellently done by Six im personations of Di Vernon, in scarlet habits, the wonder of the ring appeared, the master of the globe roulante. Forwards and backwards, up and down the eloping planks, with happier fate than the ever-toiling Sisy phus in Hades, he pedully rolled the magically-pro gressing ball, which seemed in bulk and material to be such a oae as, in days gone by, was shot from a 1 mighty culveriu by the jealous guardians of the Dar danelles at Duckworth, when his noble fleet paid an unwelcome visit to their sacred waters. This exploit alone is well worth the payment of the entrance fee, and the second weed of approbation we assign to the vivid struggle between the female charioteers. The sports concluded with a " Corso" race, in which tea riderless steeds, discriminated by scarfs of several colours, contended the mastery with evident self-enjoy went. The entertainments were enlivened by the strains of two efficient brass bands, stationed in galleries at each extremity of the major axis of the ellipse. Th ere is not, we can fairly say, a single place of amusement in the capital really better worth a visit than the Grand National Hippodrome. It is calculated to afford a large amount of pleasure even to adult Londoners, whilst juveniles and provincials will be fairly enchanted by its multifarious novelties, which are produced, as Mr. Batty with perfect truth asserts in his programme, " on a scale of extent and grandeur hitherto unexampled in England." Paxton's Palace of Glass, Batty's Hippo drome, and Alexis Soyer's Symposium, are the three grand metropolitan lions of 1851. ACCIDENT to 111R.COXIVELL'S BALLOON. Mr. Coxwell, the English aeronaut, who, from his frequent and succesAul ascents, has acquired quite a German reputation, has suffered a severe loss by an accident that occurred to his balloon, on the 6th, at Berlin. He had announced that he and Mr. Risley, the proprietor of the Panorama of the Mississippi, would undertake an aerial journey of undetermined length • and duration, whether they landed in Austria, Russia, or Bohemia being a matter of indifference. For this purpose the balloon was inflated at au early hour in the ground; of the Schutzm-flaus, and at noon all was ready for thu departure. The weather, however, was unfavourable, and strong gusts of wind made the ma chine surge violently while still fast to the ground. The car was packed with all the necessaries for a long trip, in which many frontiers might have been crossed with out passports, and soon after 12 o'clock the two voyagers took their seats, and the balloon was disengaged. At the moueeut it was slowly rising one of the frequent gusts of wind drove it against a group of trees in the grounds ; it seemed to contend a moment with the ob struction, but an unlucky branch had torn the silk, and the gas rushin,,. , out, converted the hole into a huge rent; the balloon collapsed, and in a few minutes its stately fabric was lying shapeless, shrunken, and void, on the earth. Neither of the voyagers sustained any injury. An immense crowd of spectators dispersed, not without many expressions of regret at the accident, which to Mr. Colwell will prove a heavy loss. RAILWAY RE TURNS TRAFFIC RETURNS FOR THE PAST WEEK. NAME OF RAILWAY. S U .e?„. r 4 - a, smahi BRITISH. Aberdeen ...• • • .............. ..... Belfast and Ballymena • • Belfast and County Down ••••• • • • • • Birkenhead, Lancashire, and Cheshire Bolton, Blackburn, and West York • • • • Bristol and Exeter •• • • • - •••• • • • • • • • • Caledonian... ....... ... .. •• • • . • • • • • Chester and Holyhead • • • • • •• • • • Dublin and Belfast Junction Dublin and Drogheda. ... • . .. Dublin and Kingstown • • • • • • • • • • • • " Dundee suid Arbroath •• • • • • • • • • • • • • Dundee. Perth, and Aberdeen Junction Dundalk and Enniskillen.. •• • • • East Anglian.... East Lancashire .• • • •• • • • • _ • • • • •• .. Eastern Counties and Norfolk.. • • ... Edinburghlo m Edinburgh,lttGreategrol Glasgow,iiociilrtlirvdi a t)toi o ia i l i dni in ' e d e s.r . l r s.i . e G t io.3 h . 1 ,.. . a, , a5 .t . n1.a i 1 idn... n 0. N.a . d: E,. . ec ~ .D. . s rLt i ee. 1 . : er. i . .d ni..i . e . . 0.. 1 e c... . k . ....................... .............. Furness Railway ... ................ Great Southern and Western (Ireland) Great Western .• • Lancaster and Carlisle• • • Lancashire and Yorkshire.. ...... • • • • Leeds and Thirsk •• • • ••••• • • • " •• • • Liverpool, Crosby, and Southport• • • • London and North Western. ....... • London and Blackwall.• • . • • .. • • • i • - London, Brighton, and South Coas • • London and South Western. • • • • •• Londonderry and Enniskillen ..4).e..;„_ Manchester, Buxton, andr_tLl.K iiii.a"e Manchester, Shetneld,an , ineu ::,mmlaaidrili,phioedrstter.i.l.idal.lio.suiiteh.n.J..u::rci.ts.iho:): ... ... ....•.: Bs s s ' SS-NNIC' CI - l o n rhce;°e:irdrr:ettittlissinSlsbidV:CGeecillt:uf:a li s i til. :11 1 :" : • C are:: 1 5 . 1 •.l. ti e : :s ir t e... .e .:: :r .:: : ..... .. 1.. ....? : : :: : . ::: : :::..........:::::::::::::::: astern.... .... •• • • • • • • ... S o uth Wales .. •.••. • •• • .... • • • S o uth York., Duncasta•, and Goole : N ly N % : o ft ers t k e t r ea fo io : , k . l nii\ a v n ea l i Limerick .. . • •. • . W li i tt: hav en Junction ca . stl ' e . , . . a . 1 . 1 1 01 :: 1 • 1 . e l r .. . w .. . .. ic .. k .••• . : York and North Midland FOREIGN. Amiens and Boulogrie. • • ...... Montereatt and Troyes Northern of France Orleans to Bourges (Cent.) Orleans to Bordeaux . Paris and Orleans Paris and Rouen . . Rouen and llavre • • . 965 15,134 2,519 3,089 7,524 5,843 2,467 1,028 18,44 0 3 ,654 3,886 8,507 6,480 2,353 RAILWAY TRAFFIC RETURNS - , no , T lIE GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY. —( Miles Ivor., •Return of Traffic for the Week ending Ap ril 27, 1851 : Passengers, parcels, carriages, horses, dogs, and mails „f nd r 349 8 6,1 '405 13 f 'Merchandise and minerals - '4 95 15 7 Cattle ..• ••• "• Corresponding week, April 28, 1850 ( 1 Total ... £9,750 17 7 Passengers, parcels, &c. £1,934 0 6 43 miles) Cattle ••• ••• 1 450 0 5 Total •• 13,784 0 11 May 4 : return for the wee k ending cattle ' , and cartage 6,223 19 6 EA S TERN COUNTI ES AND NORFOLK RAmWAY.—TraffiC £8,234 2 3 Passeugera, Parcels Merchandise, Total ... £14,458 1 9 Corr espondin6 -. week of ',coy 15,730 8 8 LoNper r AND BLACKWALL RAILWAY.—Amount of revenue ror the week ending May 4 Passengers Goods Total ... Corresponding week last year ... MANCHESTER., BUXTON, MATLOCK, AND TION RAILWAY..ItetUrII of traffic for May 4. : Passengers, &c. ... Merchandise Miles opened, 322 95 116% 171% 22 34 236 262% 121- 518 M 173!i 239 11% 1671 9 28 496 M 2991 2 1 24 10 0 ...X1,015 12 1 791 5 9 blinr.A.rms the'dek ending £7O 10 9 57 18 8 Total „. £l2B 9 5 Corresponding week last year ." 105 5 1 SHREWSBURY AND BIRMINOBA3I RAlLWAY.—Traffic re ceipts for the week ending May 4 : Passengers ..• Carriages, horses, and parcels Live stock Merchandise and iniserals £283 16 17 17 6 12 265 17 1 1 6 5 Total .- —•— X 574 3 1 Correspon di n g period last year.. 520 19 9 SHROPSHIRE UNION RAIL W AY. (Open 29 miles.)—Traito for the week end in g 'Slay 4 Passengers, parcels, &c. ... Goo d s and live stock 1-401 11 11-, ... '268 1 8 Total .. ... .. £669 12 9 i Corresponding week last year ... 476 e* Receipts. 1851. 1850. £1,012 60 1,028 424 4,210 5,938 2,357 267 938 1,276 1,344 430 1,431 477 1,433 10,160 1,052 2,078 943 307 175 13,600 7.029 1,377 1,518 ; take c :by, vg? the