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Wynne, who was the on..y s i ,, 4 • 4 2 ti °n to the preamble, said he would proceed, with the permis. t 4 the Cowl-Mace, to call evidence for the purpose of proving Preamble. • Mr vs, t l i he ; "BM 'Watkins, land.ag p ent and farmer, was then exa -10 ts• Mr. Balmy—He deoeed to the present want ot ' 24 e for traffic by the district through which the line was • : i t ", Which c ompr i se d t hi rty . s i x agr i cu l ur el parishes—that this t- Z a Y would afford the inhabitants the means of carrying . or ' n engeneee; Ftc ,to the manufacturing districts, and also 41 Iing coals from Flintshire at a considerably diminished rate from with the present cost of carriage, and that the junction t ; a enefit s to u! . b ‘e Cheste r and Ho'yhied Railway would add greatly to be derived from it by that district. The under. %Tit was v ery acceptable to the inhabitants. so \Vi l'urdon, engineer, deposed that the railway wa s constr ucted as that it could at any time be brought into coin. I,letec gitnexion with the Chester and Holyhead line, and the Nr ni `nus at th e ot h er end of the l i ne was to b e i n conn exion with tk_ harbonr of Portdielliten. ' • of t ; Tarn " Spooner, engineer, was next examined as to the details at estimate. He had gone into all the particulars of the i;ll:rer:ruPrd ample on fo v.a to he constructed on the line, and he considered the estimate l' the s completion of the railway. again called and examined as to the cost of para. ett th "'lke on the li ne . H e gave s i m il ar e vidence on these points 'eat witness, that the cost of tunnelling had been calculated tibe"v tb i • Per yard, and working expenses of the line , wouwl lY undei 40 per cent, on the proceeds of the traffic be co (LEFT SITTING.) • Group X. Ih LONDON AND YORK RAILWAY. Committee reassembled at twelve o'clock, and proceeded lth the co nsideration of this scheme. `yr, Pit man handed in a table of the traffic along the line be , et Huntingd on an d L on d on. Il e h a d comp il e d this tab'e from ~ Ur ,8 which h a d b eenmade to him by the witnesses who had been ' l l l t ravelli ng i y a4lin ed before th e Committee. He had estimated that the cost c was &I. per mile for each passenger. He L ov elt hnated b the oach income of the railway between Huntingdon and t . mo n from a ll sources except coal at 242,380/. per annum. mr • Palm er, a miller of Stamford, was called to prove that the nePr° P o sed would be a great advantage to that town and Grantham c_ Group V. cp con° orarnitte on this group, consisting of the Chairman, The Ael4 r Do n. Mr. Hope Johnstone,' Mr. Davies, Sir John Rae ;and Sir Denh am N orreys, met a t twelve o ' clock t hi s morn _ tai n ct Proceed( d to take evidence on the part of the opponents of , Tile . NOT TINGHAM AND LINCOLN LINE. hep ro , ql lt wit.seis called was Mr. Rastrick, civil engineer, an d pe ase e d . %at another line might be adopted at an increascd ex. lev e l ir ' h iell 'would obviate the necessity of the Flood-road at a , " !tar -_ ould cross by either of two f des, by taking the rail_ ~ e ll e „ h m' ~. L r the road, nr the road over the railway. There were no l s• '-'," gre at requir ' t engineering di ffi culties to be overcome. There wou ld i I Ali ; to be a gradient of one in a hundred for above a quarter of ise etys ' r i n order t o cross the road, and an equal gradient would be tlilty , :Y ( ” 1 the other side. This would occasion no great ditti -ceinbg, as he h a d already stated, on the score of money. The c (Group B.) *ith th e lan 61,arnitdholde ee rs re opposition kr. 1 3 WEST RIDING LINE. grant t ''es appeared on behalf of a Dr. Lister, the heir ,_ l 'Weet ~c , ' „ B l), ,i P lY Hall, an ancient and romantic mansion in a plc 'ate 31 , u ; sera about a mile and a half from Halitax. The es * Period Learned Counsel stated, had been in the same family for aad n or upwards of 200 years, and it was desired by the owner • en Riding Company would totally destroy it, and Dr. Astor x,, iri h ad. therefore, petitioned Parliament against the line. the C eDe e having been adduced to substantiate the statement of NI 'lulled Counsel, len t r ' 4LaxaNnan addressed the Committee on behalf of the pre. W h i k cie uPant of Shipley Hall, a lady named Miss Mary Ann Nt r er :. who is, unfortunately, a lunatic. 'Nowtts appeared for several petitioners against vrb, ie pis IE WEST LINES, gr of the lin TF roPert f Y w ould beinterfered YOßKSHlßE with or destroyed by the pro. Group N. ti l th part_ a.t4,,, ,, l r in . : ln to s made by WEST CORNWALL RAILWAY. -- asse • • xi AUSTI N replied to the "bse Nt , mbling of the Committee. ,r. .. Mr. Sma!e yesterday, who objected, on the a l .._ llre Bev. Mr. Millet, to a small branch running from the a place called Carnscw wharf, which, it was argued,. v 74, Ist serious! ' T:„„, Y injure his property, and that there was ample rail. e q c — unnadation at the present moment. 141 w e e, 14 Itlee suggested that an understanding might be made A „ . I r. Millett and the Company. . aii d t h e " much discussion, however, no arrangement was come to, am id we•biection was deferred until tine Committee have termi 4lat 4 r I r i aVemigatios of the main line. It was then stated 4 Nigh t Th arnas's opposition to the Bill had not been withdrawn, • 14, m hat e been surmised from what occurred yesterday. trip rtiki A ekta.sr, the Chairman, said he was labouring theu i n a d d er been settgni from what had taken place , that the matter had ..., h et _ u r. 80 ‘seen the parties. t %ree - ' ence h wa said an arrangement had not been come to, though a lir. 8 had taken place. 44a ail., informed the Committee that an amicable arrange. 114 rail., b •els come to between Lord Vivian and the projectors of ' ''ith c i -4 Y, and that his opposition to the Bill, therefore, would be .44 em s Captain Moorsom hal endeavoured to effect an ar 'ket - " P X °n the part of the company with Mr. Thomas, with re i the N t Z - -e alterati on of the proposed line, so that it might not run .. 44:suingc,,, 1; 1 - 'i t l n P : Ii ° , P g erty , but he had been uasuccesiful in coming to ' • k r. .l,h:MA cA uLAy said ( a dd ress i ng Mr. Rowe, w h o a pp ea red for had 1,,,, t rn , 4%), it would b e satisfactory to know that Mr. Th omas 115. •, , ,. r etuned a reasone ) l e offer. m a d e. " ° w e said he was instructed to say that no offer had been (LEFT SITTING.) I'E CALL Group DD. 1)"14 N. AND GLASGOW, DUMFRIES, AND The Co_ C ARLISLE RAILWAYS shortl y an'mern i ttee re a ssembled at the usual hour this morn i ng, an d before th e ,: Pruce eded with the further consideration of the Bills )Ir 7 , ,, I " ,: ft all e ed t 17Tg°neirnielnrae ll n y ce s d up b e y ri e n x te a n m il i in 'i g ng the getting P ge a t r t e i , ng who had been up of t the on rail 41 ". Ile said he had been for a long time engaged ways, and corin g had had considerable experience . in „ pi n e. - tio tables of traffic fur various lines. His a ! raii, e l4 first called to the route which the Caledonian ::: }l , ll ,oc .: k it e : e . , upwards of three years ago. an to the ttrlantlione fer e ,„" S . haw and other gentlemen, well.acquainted with the in - He had enga d ge if t hrough which the line passed, to make ever y 1 .. 0 and from their observations, together a f ith h i d , rnai np ,,, d PrePared the tables now before the Committee. f e a I he ra.,,,V0 Scotland during a month at two several times to verify of ~,,,:n " 1 ,4 of his researches. In order to get at the probable amount ' P ith thu.ractured goods to be expected, he had made . acquaintance oral:4ri pal' Principal m anufacturers in Edinburgh, Leith, G asg h o to , in ' l el, and inquired as to their traffic north and sout ,a 4,1 Dundee. He also visited the other principal towns tA 'sch - ,: ine , and made every inquiry as to the coach traffic from 'Mk 140Prieters and others, and substantiated this information tou_sclual returns made to the Stamp.offite. He got his ae k,4o., of the number of goods exported and imported from the INtle, makeU at Leith, Glasgow, and Dundee. For the mineral : 41 "oPloyed several eminent engineers to inspect the mines VsParer,-the necessary inquiries. The agricultural tables were Z: 4l . f — s et ' e r Z u actual experience, and from information derived !-ite r , -, farmer., and others acquainted with agricultural ~.t t a ' N lNi r• Pare then went minutely into the details ,ho rter:Cc e xPected along the proposed line. The ''rived 'eselts are as follow :—The income to , 2 . 4 tat NtrQrn passengers of all classes by land amounted to V I4 Ele e " s ' 911 .9 which being doubled, according to Parliamensary . s . -4 serL Csll waY affairs, would yield a sum of 64,896/. 7s. 6d. 7 4 's by st eam-packets and other sea vessels realised a sum ft 1,4,°121. I Is. 3d., but this amount had not been doubled, as *.etlldnibtrul whether the stearn.vessels now sailing to and fro tt, do, t .1 Y so Many passengers when the railway was made as I..l e sent,.. k a t Present. The total amount expected -", to -- ", "7 every means of conveyance was 85,708/. 600,1 8 —., revenue which would be realised from the conveyance of t°rat'el°,lld amount to 140,302/.2ed. The gross total f 4 24 A , ie l , would result from these items would yield the sum ISI 1 ;, 12 , 1 ' 1 7a. lied 4.) e:, a ' , d, of the Garthsherrie ironworks, near Old Monk -4tlfqto"4l then examined. There were fifty six iron ma. I, erst , 'l ' s in Airdrie and Its neighbourhood, which pro. k ._4riti t . ° _n the average, seven thousand tons weekly. The i, ITis, .I.},uil:lirnestone consumed weekly in its manufacture was 3 33 , „a .) 1. It itne used was principally obtained from a place called Bed e Was not of the best quality, but sufficiently good for the " lk U Q f. " 'king iron. The reason why the best limestone . was e s s (4l , - . 41 . beeatue the carriage at present was too expensive. "Orl eu,':'or setts Of limestone were obtained from Netherwood i N itti, i"l'esnaUld, and were extensively used in building and a - 1414%caat""es• The q t aantity brought weekly from these -ves 1.000 tons. l ' °11 1) Group F. Mr Shaw In the cehntnrnittee resumed today at twelve o'clock, her. it,°°ll, WORCESTER, and BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY. 4r air. ,r ~ . Ttiri,r, °f or Worcester, examined by ,r` did ' greater portion o good. d et Was very considerable. The Binning. l'a " - 144" ofthe district went north towards . Mr. Hone.—The traffic f a t fli h e e lc,. ..,.., Ms There 'was .fle Proportion might be two parts out of three. Th.., considerable traffic in hops, but it was rather u w n o c n er l - t , a f i n n r . whi'retenas likewise great traffic in fruit, vegetables, fa a n n tn t red goods, groterie. e_xchange, were received various man: nuld best serve the i r , t ._ A . 'e• Ile considered the narrow gauge eest, r w•-,:sts of the district. The Great Western party in Wor idedrk,a,re7ery strong, and highly respectable. They ble lawyer to or. Jnrity. The Great Western party had a very a 1,,_ .anise them, and they had likewise the advantage of superior were t—l c U re4 en , e_ a x. , s o that they had been able to carry public meetings. ki,Dott. arninedSergeant KINGLAKS—DT . Oit . W . iC iI h y was an derived TN, s!nt Place, and used a great amount of coal pr i nc i pally in_..ll,Blitrtnthiei purse of going t4-t L eh "t Staffordshire. In the passengers of which he spo n ke . 1,440 t northwards, a number of them no doubt went to Einrtma fir.i g to Loudon by the London a That, that 'no. That route at present was a more convenient one Cross. by Cheltenham, and the Great Western. rallorexacnined by Mr. COCKBURN, who appeared for the Cori 4 6 "",..". Worcester against the Bill, as far as it effected that city._ An, .7new that to a considerable extent the Pr.Pooeed, , . r,,,,r‘thrersed the property of the Corporation. It was caul: Pert, t a- -ProPert Iby a raised viaduct of 23 feet high. The p d rlo e o "''lsted principally of houses of an inferior character, an w_ .Uot considerable damage would be done to it. The Great I,tsteern line was not liable ' to the same objection. Istion4Mincd—The houses were inhabited by a very poor popu evert ' an d It would be an advantage to the city if many of them e tio . ed k r. .. ,as at present the locality was very unhealthy. gtia titi , 4‘ Wells, sop merchant, of Worcester, examined—The 1 ,4q0 t Y °!1,013s raised in the distriot was 17,000 pockets, or about fro N. In addition to this were received about 4,000 pockets weeln the t e , d e th '' ft' market. Some times the crop failed there, and e greater Proportion was received from London. The hops tra..rneiPally sent to the north. The seed trade of the district I, er :' 0 very considerable. His own trade was about 1,200 tors ~...U. O l. ve, lie was not prepared to give an opinion ow the rela },aBtl.7ts of the gauges, though he considered the change of car- Ught to be avoided. R othi n irir r . t.4 g material a•as elicited in the cross.examination of this C r. Jamey'btineit Wall, carrier, and a member of the Worcester Town , t4onr 01..exnlineci.—Nearly all the carriers of Worcester were , in T„, i„c l the narrow gauge, and there was a growing Z_ ouncil in a similar direction Ilibr.yte_tho: L.wa.asrcnaeldledGebnytleNmira.niiope, but no feeling in the question being put to tc o. .._‘-:. h e said he wished to ask the witness a question or :trt4l_7nane understood he was from Droltwich. In answer to the i kt b rn . i nt to him, this witness stated that the annual make of et, Soul'ieh was 80,000 tons, which was sent to the London c.941i4a Waits, the West of England, and the midland g9_441:,_ Tile coal ufeil ii; Aking tin at was derkpl , from South Staffordshire. He thought the Great Western scheme would be the best of the two, providing that a narrow guage was run parallel with the broad gauge. A connexion was wanted with the broad gauge to the south and west, and the narrow gauge to the north. Mr. G. Smith, market—gardener at Evesham, said there were about six hundred acres of garden.ground at Evesham, the pro duce of which was about four thousand five hundred tons. Their chief markets were Birmingham and Liverpool. Fruit was apt to be damaged very much if it had to be changed from one waggon to another in its progress to its destination, Mr. Richard Greaves, a resident of Stratford-upon-Avon, exa mined—There was an extensive coal trade in that neighbourhood. About 2a,000 or 30,000 tons went through his hands annually. The quantities of coal brought into Stratford was 45,000 tons, of which about 16,000 tons were used in the town, the residue went into the surrounding country. The coals were brought principally from South Staffordshire, and the average price was from 14s. to ISs. per ton. The carriage was 6s. 6d. per ton. The return traffic might be about 16,000 tons. They had a trade with London, Leicester, and other parts of the surrounding country. At present groceries from London cost in carriage about 21. per ton. Tke broad gauge did not come anywhere near to Stratford. rtirbf 9littitton SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (T HIS DAY.) Group X LONDON AND YORK RAILWAY. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) Mr. Palmer was subjected to a long cross•examinatien, but nothing material was elicited. The Committee then proceeded with similar evidence with respect to Newark. Several witnesses, tradesmen in the town, were called, and they stated that the proposed railway would be a great advantage to them. The Committee then adjourned to Monday week. Group E. NORTHUMBERLAND ATMOSPHERIC RAILWAY. The Committee at its sitting came to the determination of ad. journing the consideration of the Newcastle and Darlington. At the request of the Chairman, Mr. Cubitt, said that he would en. deavour to get a diagram ready, showing the manner in which it had been proposed that different trains running on a single line should stop or pass etch other, and lay it before the Committee in the course of the day, in order that the cases now before the Core. mitts e should be brought to a conclusion this week. Mr. Fawcett, chemist, of Gateshead, on examination by Mr. Sergeant Witaxansm, gave instances in which the proposed viaduct would be productive of serious danger, especially as Dean-street, through which it would pass, was a very great thoroughfare. The fueling of the people at Gateshead was decidedly against the New. castle and Berwick line, as they were now convinced from the re. port of the Committee if the superiority of the atmospheric system. Cross-examined by Mr. HILDYARD—In witness's opinion the height of the viaduct would not tend to diminish the danger of acci dents. Mr. Robson, a member of the Town Council of Gateshead, was examined, and corroborated the evidence of the former witness. On being cross.examined he stated that a resolution had been pro posed by the Town Council of Gateshead in favour of high level bridges. Mr. Busby was called to prove that the feeling of the inhabitants of Alowick and that district was favourable to the Northumberland atmospheric line. The traffic tables were then put in, and Mr. Kennedy stated that the case for the promoters of the Bill was closed. Mr. Avails, having been permitted by the Committee to ad. dress them on behalf of the landholders, for whom he appeared, against the proposed Northumberland line, produced a general plan of the line, and pointed out the circumstances under which a painful interference would take place with most valuable property. The line between Hawick and the sea shore. which would have been a practical level, had been rejected because it interfered with one estate ; but now the inconvenience would be felt by two estates, one belonging to Sir Matthew Ridley and the other to Mr. Brandling. In order, then, to avoid injuring one property they were now called upon to inflict a serious injury on two. The injury would be sufficient to preclude the adoption of the atmospheric line. The railway trains, according to that plan, would pass within earshot of two houses on Mr. Brandling's property. The injury would admit of no compensation, but the injury done by the formation of the locomotive tine would not be very material:to their estates. When it was evident that all the purposos of railway communication could be effected by the latter system, he trusted that the Com mittee would not sanction the formation of a railway which would inflict such serious injury on the owners of these estates. The Learned Counsel then produced several drawings of the grounds and houses alluded to. Mr. J. Dobson, architect of Newcastle, the Rev. R. Brand. ling, and Mr. Turner, the steward of Sir Mathew Ridley, were then examined for the purpose of showing the serious injury that would accrue to the estates of Mr. Brandling and Sir Mathew Ridley, .if the proposed line of atmospheric railway were adopted. After which the Committee adjourned. Group DD. THE CALEDONIAN AND GLASGOW, DUMFRIES, AND consumption in Oxford was about 50,000 tons. The coals were derived from South Staffordshire, Leicestershire, Derbyshire, and Somersetshire. A considerable portion was from the north, and brought by canal. The average price at present was 255. per ton. There was very little through going traffic at Oxford. The heads of the University were in favour of the Great Western scheme; but the popular feeling was with the narrow gauge. If they bad the broad gauge to the south and west, and the narrow gauge to the north, it would be all that they required. Mr. Robert Houston, of Gloucester, said he had been fifty years in the employment of Messrs. Pickfced and Co., the exten sive carriers. One of the chief advantages of the narrow gauge was, that small quantities of goods could be sent long distances without being disturbed, the carriages required being so much smaller than those employed on the broad gauge. Great delay often took place at Gloucester in taking goods from one gauge on to the other, so much so, that parties often preferred using canal, it being found equivalent in point of time. As an instance of this delay, a quantity of fish, lately sent from Bristol for, the Birmingham market, that left at half-past six o'clock on Saturday morning, did not reach its destination till the market was over (half-past ten o'clock) in the evening, so that the fish had to lie over Sunday, and could not be sold, exeept at very depreciated prices. The parties who sent the fish were now seeking to recover 10/. for the damage done. He considered the best points for the break between the two gauges would be Bristol and Oxford. Mr. W. Harding,manager of the Bristol and Gloucester Railway, which was a broad gauge line, he considered Bristol a better posi tion than Gloucester, as there was much less through traffic at the former than at the latter place. As a proof of this, while during a week they shifted at Gloucester 470 tons from one line to the other of through going traffic, they only shifted at Bristol on to the Great Western line thirty-six tons. Birmingham and Wolverhampton had an immense amount of through going traffic which would require shifting, while Bristol and Oxford had very little. Nearly all the traffic at the latter places was ter. mlnal. He considered Oxford a much better point for a break in the gauges than Wolverhampton. The narrow gauge was connected with 12,000,000 people, the broad gauge with about 3,000,000, while 2,000,000 were unprovided for. He thought it much better that this remaining 2,05e,000 should be connected with the larger than the smaller number. The number of miles of both gauges already completed, in progress, or projected, was as follows. This was including Scotland : CARLISLE RAILWAYS. Mr. Baird's examination (continued from our Afternoon Edi. Lion)—lf the railway were made, the quantity of lime brought into the district would be increased to 10,000 tons every week. The expense of conveyance from Netherwood to Garthsherrie would be Is. 6d. per ton. The want of sufficient lime for agricultural uses was greatly felt in the neighbourhood of Airdrie. His iron works were situated near the Castlecary branch. He was in the habit of sending large quantities of iron to Grangemouth for shipment. He exported at least 25 per; cent. of the iron made ; and a similar proportional quantity was sent away by the other manufacturers in the district. At least 85,000 tons of limestone were consumed annually ; and the expense, in cluding carriage, from Netherwood to Garthsherine was 3s. Gd. to 4s. 6d. per ton. If the railway were constructed it would tend to open up many mineral fields at present unexplored, and he had no hesitation in distinctly saying that the line when made would be generally of great public advantage. Mr. John Miller, manager of Lord Elphinstone's estates in Ambernault, was next examined. He said the:neighbourhood of the Castlecary branch abounded in minerals of various descriptions. There were great quantities of lime at Cumbernault, of two kinds, that were sold for 3s. 6d. to 4s. Gd. per ton. Ironstone was occa sionally used for smelting purposes, particularly at the Carron Iron Works, but it was not sent to Garthsherrie, because there was no direct means of conveyance. If a railway were made ironstone would be taken in considerable quantities. Ihe Castlecary branch in conjunction with the Scottish Central, will form the best and most direct communication between Grangemouth and Coltness. The present price of burnt ►ime was Bs. per ton, but it could lie sold at a cheaper rate if the railway were constructed, arid at least 15,000 tons yearly would be sent north from Cumbernault. The quantity of grain consumed an nually in the district of Airdrie amounted to 14,561 tons, the principal pert of which was brought from Stirling and Falkirk. A very large number of potatoes were alto sold in the neighbourhood of Airdrie, amounting annually than 8,000 to 10,000 tons annually, and of this amount 2,000 tons were sent from the north. Another article of produce of great consumption in the district was turnips, which were conveyed from the ❑orth to the extent of 500 tons every year. The further evi dence of this witness was merely corroborative of previous state. ments. Mr. Bruce, raper-manufacturer, at Leith, was then called. The quantity of paper which he manufactured in the course of the year was 300 tons. There were eight other paper manufactories in the neighbourhood, and the quantity produced by these amounted to 2,000 tons annually. Coal was extensively used in the different factories, and the price when delivered at the canal side averaged from 95. to 105. 6d. per ton. Gas coal was also con. surned to a Inge extent, and its present price was 55. per ton at the pis mouth, the cost of cartage from which was 17s. per ton, which amounts, added together, would give a result of 225. per ton—the present price of the coals. If, however, the coals were brought by the Edinburgh branch of the Caledonian Railway, the cost would be considerably reduced. All the manufacturers would consume more coals, if they could be procured at a cheaper rate. The produce of the paper would also be greatly increased if more facility was afforded. The paper-works were for the most part carried on both during the night and day. Rags and old ropes used in making the different kinds of paper were principally brought from Ireland by sea, arid they could be pro. cured at a much cheaper rate if there was a better and more direct mode of conveyance. Mr. Holdsworth, cotton.spinner at Glasgow, the next witness, stated that he could concur generally with the evidence which had been previously given, and was distinctly of opinion that the majo. rity of the mercantile community of Glasgow was in favour of the Caledonian Railway. Mr. Hill, paper-manufacturer, gave concurrent testimony to that given by Mr. Bruce. The Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock on Friday, the 15th instant. Group V. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) Cross-examined by Mr. MAcsut.►Y—By his proposition a gradient of 1 • in 100 would be required, and that would entail an expenseof 1,000/. per annum for an assistant engine at Nottingham. This gradient was certainly objectionable, if it could possibly be avoided, especially in the case of heavy trains. if he were called on to lay out the line, he should certainly propose to cross the Flood.road at the level. Ile did so propose in a line of his own at Worthing, but the House of Lords compelled him to build a bridge. •" Mr. Wood, architect and surveyor of Nottingham, was called to give evidence corroborative of that given by Mr. Rastick. The witness also from his knowledge of the country was enabled to speak of the traffic on the Trent Navigation Canal, none of which, he thought, would be transferred to this railway In the event of its being formed. James Fenton was of °pluton that it was perfectly practicable to work single engines on gradients of lin I AO. He had done so on the Manchester and Leeds line, mad the inclination on the Edin. burgh and Glaegow line on leaving the station at the latter eity was I in 42. The witness was under examination at four o'clock, when the Committee adjourned. Group B. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) Mr. RNOWLES called evidence to prove that ti.e line would seriously disfigure an estate In the valley of the Calder, called the Pyeness Park. Sir G. Law's adduced similar evidence on behalf of thr Low. more Iron Company, and Mr. GURNEY on behalf of Colonel Tern. pest, whose family it was stated had been the owners and occupiers of Tonge Park, for a period of upwards of 700 years. Counsel also appeared to oppose the line, on behalf of the Bradford Sur veyors of the Highways and the Bradford Canal Company. Mr. Hut then proposed that counsel on either side should say nothing in reply, but pair eff. Mr. TALBOT accepted the proposal of his Leartictl The room was then cleared, and the Committee having deliberated for upwards of three-quarters of an hour s strangers were then re.ndmitted. The CHAIRMAN then announe:.o that the preamble to the Leeds and West Riding Junctio had determined to had been proved, and the Committee ',..egative the West Yorkshire line, Group F. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition. ) Cross-examined by Mr. COCKBURN—The Moreton Railway, at present le tbnnexion with Stratford, has been purchased, he be lieved, by the Great Western Company, conditionally on their getting their Bill. He did not think, however, it could be applied to the purposes of the broad gauge. Re examined by Mr. HOPE—The London and Birmingham had made a similar conditional purchase of the Moreton Railway, and intended to carry it forward so as to connect Stratford with Tang. Mr. William Caylis, corn and coal dealer and farmer, at Ban. bury, examined— Ile farmed about 170 acres of land. The quan tity of coal used in the town and neighbourhood was about 60,000 tons. It was derived principally from South Staffordshire ; a small portion came from Hawley. The carriage from South Stafford shire was Ets. per ton ; that from Hawley, which was 57 miles dis tant, was a halfpenny per ton per mile. The corn trade of the town was also considerable. About 35,000 quarters were sent from the neighbourhood principally northwards. Birmingham was the market to which dealers generally went. The feeling of the inhabitants of Banbury was at present decidedly in favour of the narrow gauge. If the wide gauge was carried out as pro posed to Rugby, great inconvenience would be created ill the car riage of coal by the breakage in the gauger. Mr. Robert Peel, of 13annuty, generally confirmed the evidence of the previous witness. 3 ;gr, Willi& Wlrd of Oxford said be was a daalcr in coal. Th e _ _ ,ev.7 , ctrOffo-lizi • . - • ot,l-f • ' 4 4 - $-,.. ' TILE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVEN“VG, MAY 9 1845. NARUOW 0 ktiGE. Completed In progress 615 Projected and before Parliament this session 3,098 Total DROAD GAUGE. 5,557 261 Comp' eted In progress 550 I'r jected, Total Mr. COCKAURN examined this witness at soma length without materially affecting the main substance of the evidence given in the examination in chief. . . . . The CHAIRMAN wished a great discrepancy that existed between the map before him, and the figures given by the witness respect ing the miles of the broad and narrow guage, corrected. Either the witness or the map must be very much in error. The witness made the number of miles of the narrow gauge much more than the map, and the miles of the broad gauge considera bly less. He Loped this would be explained at the next sitting of the Committee. The Committee then adjourned till Wednesday next, at twelve o'clock. Group N. WEST CORNWALL RAILWAY. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition ) Mr. BIRCHAM said an offer had been made to the effect that Mr. Thomas should be paid for any loss he might sustain inconsequence of t he line crossing his land. Mr. RONVE thought it was not advisable to go into matters which had occurred out of the Committee-room. Captain Moorsem was examined at great length by Mr. Rowe —His evidence went to show that the line beween Trur• and Itedruth, seven miles, would have steep gradients. In one place they were 1 in 22 ; at other places 1 in 26 and 1 in 40. At the other portion, rive miles and three quarters, the ruling gra. dient would be 1 in 50. The trains would in weight average from 20 to 25 tons ; the weight of the engine and tender would be from 14 to 15 tons. On these gradients the speed would average thirty miles an hour. The rate of speed on the steepest gradient would be twelve miles an hour. The whole line, including branches, would be twenty.three miles and a half, and the expense of construe. Lion would be about 6,7001. a mile. Eleven miles and a half would be worked by atmospheric traction, and ten miles and half by locomotive power. The expense of constructing the loco motive portion would be between 2,3001. and 2,4001. a mile. At some portions a double line would be laid down, and the expense, as a matter of course, would be con. siderably increased—nearly double that of the singe line. With respect to the atmospheric portion of the line, the coat of construction would be 2,001. a mile ; where a double line was laid down 1,3001. more. This would be distinct from the atmos pheric apparatus, which was not included in the 180,0001., the estimated expense of constructing the line. Arrangements, he believed, had been made for laying down the apparatus. He would allow 3,3001. per mile for the atmospheric power. The charge for the use of the patent, he believed, was 500/. a mile. That expense would not include the engine-houses and the engines. The witness was examined on minute details respecting the atmospheric system in connexion with the line, also with respect to the locomotive portion. His general evidence went to show that the line would be constructed in accordance with the latest improvements, not beyond the usual cost for such •ast undertakings, in which the public safety would be carefully attended to, and with advantage to Cornwall. Mr. AUSTIN, on the part of the promoters of the Bill, said he understood from Captain Moersom that he would carry the line off Mr. Thomas's property, and within the limits of deviation. On these grounds he held that Mr. Thomas could not maintain his locus standi as a petitioner against the Bill. He therefore took that objection to the course he was pursuing, and should request the decision of the Committee upon it. The Company were by this opposition to their scheme put to considerable expense, while they were willing to meet the views of the petitioners. The Committee expressed their willingness to go on with the in quiry until five o'clock, if the matter was likely to be decided within that time. At the suggestion of Mr. Ausritt, Mr. Macaulay left the room for the purpose of consulting the Speaker on the subject of Mr. Thomas's right to oppose the Bill, after the offer which had been made by the Company. On his return he said the Speaker was of opinion that the locus slandi of Mr. Thomas was not lost, and that he had a perfect right to continue his opposition. After much conversation it was arranged that the Committee should aejourn until Tuesday, the_2oth inst. Group Q. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) Mr. Daniel Breese, solicitor for the Bill, was then examined as to the traffic anticipated on the line. It appeared from this wit. ness that the yearly number of passengers calculated to pass along this district was 64,334, which was a daily average of 413 per day, and would amount to 125,0001. per annum. The slates and mine. rats were calculated at 2'23,004 tons, producing 27,6751. ; live stock at 60,026, amounting to 3,0011. ; miscellaneous goods, 4,489 tons, amounting to 5601. ; and f reign goods that were likely to be landed at Perblynllaen for Manchester and the inland parts of Lancashire, at 20,000 tons, amounting to 2,5001. This witness proceeded at great length to detail the sources of traffic and its amount which was expected en this line, with the modes which he adopted to come to such conclusion. Other witnesses were then examined as to the assents and dis sents of the owners along the line, and the number and character of the shareholders. This closed the evidence of the promoters. The CHAIRMAN wished to examine Sir John Rennie as to some of the engineering points, on which he was not entirely satisfied, before the Committee came to a decision on the preamble. Mr. CALVERT was sorry that Sir John Rennie was not in at. tendance (he being at present engaged elsewhere on other rail. ways), but had he imagined that his presence would have been ne cessary he would have had him in attendance. The room was then cleared, and on our readmission The CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee had come to the resolution of posponing the further consideration of this Bill till Monday, the 26th inst., when they expected the attendance of Sir John Rennie, to give evidence on the points referred to. NORTH WALES MINERAL RAILWAY. Sir WALTER RIDDELL, on behalf of the promoters of this Bill, explained its objects, and the necessity which existed for its for mation. Last year a Bill had been passed for the construction of a line from Chester to Wrexham, and this year a Bill had been moved for another line from Shrewsbury by Oswestry to Rhuabon, and the object of this line was to con. nect the two lines, and thus maintain a complete line of connexion between Shrewsbury and Chester, the line to commence at Wrexham, and to join the Shrewsbury and Oswestry line at a village called Cefn Mawr. The branch would be about six miles and a quarter in length; there would be two tunnels on the line—one of 398 yards, and the other of 220 yards. There was no great engineering difficulty on the line. The cost of tleg main line would be 105,2501. Mr. H. Robertson, the acting engineer of the railway, was next examined.—He deposed to the correctness of the statements made by counsel in opening the case as to the favourable nature of the ground through which the line was to pass, the comparatively easy and inexpensive nr.ture of the works which would be required, and the competency of the amount estimated to complete the line. He also referred to the advantage which would be conferred on the district by this line opening up the valuable coal•fleids of Rhuabon and Wrexham to Chester, Birkenhead, and Liverpool en the one side, and to Shrewsbury and the different towns in Shrop. shire on the other. The Committee then adjeurned till twelve o'clock on Monday, the 26th inst. I'HE LONDON GAZETTI? (THIS EVENING.) ST. JAMES'S PALACE, MAY 7, 1845. The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of Knighthood upon John Macpherson Brakettbury, Esq., late her Majesty's Consul at Cadiz, Knight of the Royal Ilano verian Uuelphic Order. ST. JAMES'S PALACE, MAY 7. The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of Knighthood upon Charles Fellows, Esq., of Russell-square. CROWN-OFFICE, MAY 8. MEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT. County of Peebles—William Forbes Mackenzie, EN., of Portmore, one of the Lords Commissioners of bar Majesty'i Treasury. CROWN-OFFICE, Mal 9. My.MBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PIIMNT I'ARLIA~tI N 7 County of Denbigh—Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, of Wynnstay, in the county of Denbigh, Bart. \VAR-OFFICE, MAY 7. her Majesty has been pleased to promote his Royal High ness Prince George of Cambridge, K.G , Colonel of the 17th Regiment of Light Dragoons, to be Major-General in the Army, May 7. WAR-OFFICE, MAY 9. 4th Dragoon Guards—Ensign and Adjutant W. G. Sutton, from the 69th Foot, to be Cornet, without purchase, May 9. 7th Light Dragoons—Cornet G. F. W. Miles to be Lieu tenant, by purchase, vice Savile, who retires ; William -Vis count St. Lawrence to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Miles, May 9. 3d Foot—Ensign E. Portal, from 83d Foot, to be Lieute nant, by purchase, vice Cameron, who retires, May 8. 16th - Foot—Ensign E. N. Dickenson to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Wall, who retires ; C. C. Grant, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Dickenson, May 9. 18th Foot—Captain W. Evans, from 44th Foot, to be Captain, ♦ice Staveley, who exchanges, May 9. 24th Foot—ll. F. harclay, Gent., to be Ensign, by pus• chase, May 9. 31st Foot—Lieutenant J. B. Travers, from the 25th Foot, to be Paymaster, vice Matthews, appointed paymaster of a Recruiting District, May 9. 32d F o ot—Assistant-Surgeon C. Scott, M.D., from the 36th Foot, to be Surgeon, vice Bamptield, deceased, May 9. 36th Foot—W. M. Dowding, Gent., to be Assistant- Surgeon, vice Scott, prcmoted in the 32d Foot, May 9. 37th Foot—Lieutenant-Colonel the Hon. G. A. Spencer, from the 60th Foot, to be Lieutenact-Colonel, vice Bradshaw, who exchangek;, May 9. 41st Foot—Lieutenant R. Portal, from the 3d Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice C. A. Morshead, who retires on half-pay of the 3d Foot, May 9. 43d Foot—Lieutenant the lion. C. 11. Lindsay to be Cap tain, without purchase, ;ice Wright, who retires upon full pay ; Ensign J. S. Kennedy, from the 45th Foot, to be En sign, without purchase, May 9. ~,., . i 44th Foot—Captain C. W. D. Staveley, from , the 18th Foot, to be Captain, vice Evans, who exchanges, May 9. 45th Foot—T. J. Grant, Gent. to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Kenneth , appointed to the 43d Foot, May 9. 60th Foot—Lieut.-Col. J. Bradshaw, from the 37th Foot, to be Lieutenant Colonel, vice Spencer, who exchanges, May 9. BCith Foot—G. S. Nunn, Gent. to be Ensign, without pur chase, vice Macneill, whose appointment has been cancelled, May 9. 90th Foot—H. M. Eager, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Thurston who retires, May 9. 2d West India Regiment—J. T. Shower, Gent, to be En sign, without purchase, vice Robertson, whose appointment has been cancelled, May 9. 3d West India Regiment —Ensign F. J. Hills, from the Ist West India Regiment, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Smith, whose promotion ) by purchase, has been cancelled, May 9. Ceylon Rifle Regiment—Lieut. J. M. Macdonald to be Captain, by purchase, vice B. E. Layard, who retires ; Se cond Lieut. I'. O'Gorman to be First Lieutenant,by purchase, vice Macdonald ; D. I). Greentree, Gent., to be Second Lieutenant, by purchase, vice O'Gorman, May 9 ; J. Meade, Gent., to be Second Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Muller, deceased, May 10. BREVET.—Capt. G. E. Turner, of the Royal Artillery, to be Major in the Army, May 9. tisarracnEn.—Brevet Major J. .Algeo, from the 77th Foot, to be Major, without purchase; Lieut. J. Hay, from the 15th Foot, to be Captain, without purchase, May 9. MEMORANDUM.—The Christian names of Second Lieut. Tinling, of the Rifle Brigade, are Charles William Francis. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, MAY 8. - Royal Regiment of Artillery.—First Lieutenant W. 3. Smythe to he Second Captain, vice W. Smith, resigned ; Second Lieutenant R. IL Carlyon to be First Lieutenant, vice W. J. Smythe, May 6, 1845. Ordnance Medical Department. Temporary Assistant Surgeon E. Gilborne to be Assistant Surgeon, May 1, 1845. ADMIRALTY, MAY -5 . Corps of Royal Marines—Second Lieut. T. A. M. D. Pen nington, to be First Lieutenant, vice 11. Crispin, to half-pay; Second Lieut. J. Elliott, to be First Lieutenant, vice J. P. N. F Clapperton, deceased. WHITEHALL, Arm 19. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Henry Tucker the younger, of Plymouth, in the county of Devon, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. WHITEHALL, Arm 26. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Thomas Mitchell Charlesworth, Gent., of Horbury, near Wakefield, in the county of York, to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. WHITEHALL, AriuL 29. - - The Lord Chancellor has appointed John Dendy Sadler, of Dorking, in the county of Surry, Gentleman, to be a Master Extraordinary in the high Court of Chancery. W lIITEHALL, MAY 7, 1845. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Simon Peter, of Lis keard, in the county of Cornwall, Gent., to be a Master Ex traordinary in the High Court of Chancery.. BANKRUPTS. Thomas Foot Piper, stay manufacturer, Cheapside, to sur render the 20th instant and June 18, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-street -build ings, City . Cox, Pinners'-hall, Broad-street. Edmund ' Baldwin and Richard Garrett, grocers, Henfield, Sussex, May 16, at half - past o ne, an d Ju ne 11, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-street buildings, City; Hill and Mathews, St. Mary Axe, City. William Harrison, pattern dyer, Woodhouse Carr, Leeds, the 21st instant and June 9, at, eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Hope, official assignee, Leeds ; Sudlow, Son, and Torr, Chancery-lane, Lond on ; Naylor or Tempest, Leeds. George Walker Gee and John Fearne Gee, drapers, Leeds, June 2 and 30, a t twelve, at the Manchester District Cour t. Frazer, official as signee, Manchester; Sale and Worthington, Manchester; Reed and Shaw, Friday-street, London. John Jones, innkeeper, Aberystwith, Cardiganshire, May 23, and June 20, at twelve, at the Bristol District Court. Acraman, official assignee, Bristol ; Heaven, Bristol. George Rudman, mason, Bristol, May 23, and June 23, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Kynaston, official assignee, Bristol ; White and Co., Bedford-row, London ; Short, Bristol. Thomas Cooke, glove manufacturer, Leicester, May 20, and June 30, at twelve, at the Birminaham District Court. Christie, official assignee, Birmingham ; Toiler, Leicester ; James, Birmingham. James M'Dougal, draper, Leicester, May 23, at half•past twelve, and June 24, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court. Christie, official assignee, Birmingham ; Hoskins, Loughborough ; James, Birmingham. Henry Pares, plumber, Loughborough, May 27, at twelve, and June 13, at half-past twelve, at the Birmingliatn District Court. Christie, official assignee, Birmingham ; Brown, Nottingham ; Harrison and Smith, Birmingham, John Mears, grocer, Leeds, May 21 and June 9, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Hope, official assignee ; Rush worth, Staple-inn, London ; Sanderson, Leeds. Jacob Newton, John Ward Newton, and Francis Jacob Newton, spirit and porter merchants, Rotherham, Yorkshire, May 20 and June 12, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Young, official assignee; Badger, Rotherham ; Blackburn, Leeds. PRICE OF SUGAR. The Average Price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, for the woek ending, May 6, 1545, is 295. 34d. per cwt., exclusive of the Duties of Customs paid or payable thereon on the im portation thereof into Great Britain. COURSE OF EXCHi Amsterdam CF. 12 8 1 Ditto, at sight Rotterdam 2U. 12 9 Antwerp Hamburgh M.B. 14 0 Altona Paris,3 days' sight 25 90 Ditto, 3 months 26 10 Marseilles Bourdeaux Frankfort on Maine Petereburgh, 3Us — Berlin Vienna, effec. tl. 3M. 10 2 Trieste, ditto Madrid 36i Cadiz Ltilbao Barcelona Seville ,NGE--(THIS DAY.) Gibraltar:— .• •• Leghorn . ... .......... 31 Genoa ..... Milan ...... ..... Venice Naples 391 Palermo, per ox ll9 Lisbon .... 59/ Oporto Rio Janeiro Bahia .•.......... Buenos A vies NewYoik .1! dys si Philactl 1 , 1 rtuoc.s TIULLION, TER OZ Foreign ;1.11, bars. .E 3 17 9 Portuga: G•Ad Coin 3 17 5 New PoublaOns 0 0 0 New D(,..A.is 0 4 91 Silver it, flats . 0 4 10i BANK OF ENGLAND. (From this Night's Gazette.) An Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria, cap. 32, for the \V eek exding on Saturday, the 3d day of Nay, 1845. ISSUE DEPARTMENT. Notes issued ...... 29,167,095 £29,167,095 M.ll Dated the Bth day of May, 1 BANKING DI Proprietors' capita 114,553,000 Rest Public deposits (in cluding Exche quer, Savings. banks, Commis sioners of National Debt, and divi- Government debt 11,015,100 Other securities.•• 2,984,900 Gold coin and bul lion 13,088,142 Silver bullion ..... dend accounts) 2,712,041 Other dep05it5......10,355,640 Seven day and other bills £29,167,095 lIARSIIALL, Chief Cashier. .845. ;PARTMENT. £31,943,736 Government secu rities (including Dead Weight Annuity) ...... 13,616,966 Other securities... 9,857,686 Notes .............. 7,827,9 25 G o ld and silver coin ............... 641,159 £31,943,736 IiSIiALL, Chief Cashier. [845. M. MA' Dated the Bth day of May, 1 - - PROMISSORY NOTES. (From this Night's Gazette.) An account of the Average Aggregate Amount of Promis sory Notes payable to bearer on demand, which have been in circulation by the Banks in Scotland, by the Bank of Ire land, and by all other Banks in Ireland, during the four weeks ending the 26th day of April, 1845, pursuant to the Act of 4th and sth VictOria, cap scoTLANm. Chartered, Private, and Joint-Stock Banks £3,001,240 IRELAND. Bank of Ireland ................................. 4,036,400 Private and Joint• Stock Ban ks .......... 3,016,231 .......... £10,053,571 Total . IL L. WICKHAM Stamj and Taxes, May 9, 1845. (From the London New Pri ce Current of May 9.) SUGAR. —Today there was more activity in the Wea MARKET IN TELL I GEN CE. India Sugar market, a large business was transacted ; 850 hhds and trcs finding purchasers, but holders were unable to obtain any advance in prices. The total sales for the week are 2,330 hhds and trcs. REFINED.—To -day there was a much better demand for Refined goods for home consumption, and many parcels were sold at 66s to 67s for brown, and at 675 to 68.8 for standard lumps. MAURITIUB.—By private treaty there has been little doing, and at a public sale yesterday, of 7,304-bags and 38S casks, prices gave way Is Gd to 2s p er cwt f or Refining descripti ons, and Is fa other eorts, a part only wa s di s p ose d o f, b u t near ly the whole Wit; EAST I smik ,—This afternoon Bgn;al Sugar was ptirchased more freely" and 530 bags at public sale wets sold at very full rates. fine white at 57s 6d, good 54s to 54s 6,i, middling 51s, damp.sos Gd to 53s 60, and washed 48s to 52s per cwt. Manilla is wanted, but higher rates being insisted upon, checked business, and 1,686 bags at public sale, with out certificate, were taken in Is per cwt above the value. FoitistriN.----The market is yet - sparingly supplied with all descriptions of Foreign Ftupr, And Importers are still san guine in their exp ectations ; at public :gin only 463 boxes of yellow and 197 boxes of white Havannah have bej:: offered this wee 7, which went at stiff rates. Porto Rico has met with increased attention, and three floating cargoes, consist ing of 1,200 hhds have been disposed of at 21s per cwt for re fining here in bond. In Brazil Sugar an extensive busi ness has been transacted at advaoeed rates ; a cargo of brown Bahia has been sold at 21s 6d, deliverable at Konigsburg ; swo cargoes of Pernambuco, one brown of 280 tons at 26s Gd for a near port,'tho other 300 tons white at 27s 3d for the Mediteranean, an d 300 chests of bailie on the spot at 20s Od to 21s Gd for brown, and at 24s to 278 per cwt for white. Yellow Havanna!' much wanted, and stiffer rates offered. By private contract 600 chests of fine fetched 26s 9(1, and 120 boxes ditto 26s 6d, and 400 chests good 25s 60. In white business is prevented by the stiff rates that are insisted upon, 328 to 39s per cwt being re quired for common to fine ruality. ' rho business transacted privately in other kinds of loreign Sugar has been at further improved prices. aloi.a.,,NEs.—The purchases have been extensive by pri vate treaty this week, amounting to 500 puns of Antigua at 17s, 250 old ditto 15s, 100 Demerara at 18s, and 20 Funs of Dominica at 20s. 28 puns 4 casks of new Trinidad at auc tion went at lis per cwt. Bengal Treacle is worth 163, and Madras 13s 6d per cwt. Fitt:LT.—For Currants there has been rather an improve ment in the demand; prices, however, are much the same, but in Raisins there has been a further decline. Red Smyrna • and Chesme Raisins selling at 38a, and Black Smyrnas at 275, Valentias 425, Dennis in baskets at 3ls to 325, Sultanas 58s to 60s, and a parcel of Lipari Currants, 400 barrels, now landing, has been sold to the grocers at 41s. COFFEE —This afternoon Ceylon was less in request, and the sound of 864 bags Native at auction was - nearry all taken iu at the former value; there were buyers of the best 455. 50 casks 86 brls Berbice found purchasers at fair mar ket rates ; 69 brls coloury Rio went rather cheaper-mid at 528 to 545, and low mid 49s to 51s per cwt. TEA.-The market has a quiet appearance, and only a limited business has been transacted privately in Black and Green; at the public sales yesterday of 6,700 pckgs the bid dings were languid, only 1,800 were actually sold upon firmer terms, excepting Hyson and Gunpowder which went a little cheaper; Twankay but middling coarse Is 2d to is 21d, but mid rather strong flat is 21c1 to is 3d, mid strong is 70 to Is lid, Hyson Skin, but mid flat Is Id to is 2d, but mid rather sourish Is to is Oid, Souchong rather strong 2s 10d to 2s 1 lid, but middling is id, Hyson middling good Tea fresh 2s 5d to 2a 50, middling fresh and rather strong burnt 2s 10d,- Gunpowder, but middling rather strong scented 2s 3d to 283 id, Canton kind 2s 2id to 2s sd, Young Hyson good fresh and strong burnt 4s Id to 4s 30, Scented Caper 2s 3d to 2s 3d. COCOA.-To-day Trinidad Cocoa met with little attention; 138 bags 86 brls at public sale went rather cheaper-good mid red at 42s 6d to 435, mid 41s to 425, low 38s 6d, and one lot of good 48s Ed per cwt. Smcns.-To-day Malabar Pepper was in limited demand, and 550 bags at auction were nearly all taken in at the former value, half heavy brown at 30, good light 3d, and fair 3d per lb. RUM, BRAFDT, AND HomAiins.-The market quiet for Jamaica Rum, and the limited busine , s has been at a slight decline; 30 to 36 per cent over proof selling at 3s to 4s 4d, and superior 4s 6d to 4s 8d per gallon. In Leeward Island a good business has been done, rather lower rates have been taken, 300 puns having been sold at is 7d to Is. 7d. proof strength. Demerara brought former prices, the sales are 130 puns at 2s 8d to 2s 9d for 34 to 37 per cent over proof. Of Calcutta 180 casks have been sold at Is 5d proof with certificate. There has been more life in the Brandy market, and many parcels have been sold:at full rates ;-Cognac, best brands of the vintage of 1838, !Ms 4s sd, puns 4s 3d; do 1839, hhds 4s 12d, pulls 4s; do 1840, hhds 4s id, puns 3s lld ' • do 1841 hhds 4s Id, puns 3s lld ; ditto 1842, hhds 3s 10d, puns 3s 8d ; ditto 1843, hhds 3s 9d, puns 3s 7d ; ditto 1844, hhds 3s Bd, puns 3s 6d ; middling and good middling of the various vintages 2s 8d to 3s 6d, low 2s 5d to 2s 7d, and Bordeaux 2s 5d to 2s 6d per gallon. The stock is on the increase of Geneva, and at pre sent there are not many orders ; is 7d to Is 8d is the value of common shipping sort. RICE.-I'o day a good desire was shown to purchase Bai -1 gal Rice, and 1,975 bags at public sale all sold at the former value, viz.-mid white dusty rather small grain at Ils to Ils 6d, sea-daMaged first class lOs 6d to I Is, second class lOs to lOs 6d, third class Os 6d, and sea-damrged and repacked 10s per cwt. Ofts.-This afternoon the market was much better sup plied with Southern Oil, 180 tuns were offered at auction and sold at 2715 s to 28/ 15s fur fine, and at 261 to 2715 s for low to good, being, however, a little cheaper; 90 tons Sperm of Fo reign Fishing 851 per tun. Tii.Low,-This afternoon, at. public sale 542 casks of New South Wales Tallow sold at 35s 9d to 38s 9d ; 5,486 pkgs American 345-6 d to 3Ss ;45 knapsacks Cape 40s 3d to 40s 9d ; and 8 casks East India 38s to 39s per cwt. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. NEW MEMBER. Mr. F. Ma cxENzIE took the oaths and his seat on his re-election for Peeblethire. The London and Brighton Railway Extension Bill was read a second time. The Boddam Harbour Bill and Stoke-on-Trent Market Bill were read a third time and passed. The Guildford Junction Railway Bill was read a second time. RAILWAY COMMITTEE. Mr. GISBORNE moved, " That in all cases in which the Members of a Committee on a railway Bill, or group of Bills, shall be reduced to four, the proceedings on such Bill or Group of Bills shall be suspended until the Committee of Se lection shall have discharged one of the said four Members from further attendance on the said Committee." In doing this he should merely state to the House, that from his own experience great inconvenience had been suffered by the diffi culty of coming to a decision in the Railway Committees which were now sitting. In the Committee of which he was a mem ber, there were projects submitted which involved the ex penditure of 5,000,000/., and he thought that was too great a sum for three gentlereent to decide upon. He certainly saw great difficulty in adjusting the matter, but he believed that it would be advisable to return to the plan of the Election Committees. By a resolution of the House, passed on the 26th March, 1836, it was agreed that the Chairmen of Select Committees should have double votes, but as in a Committee of four only, this would not answer the purpose, he should propose that the Committee in such cases should be reduced to three. This course, he was aware, was a very exceptionable course ; but still it was, under the circumstances, he thought, the best that could be devised. He did think that the House ought to be careful how it inter fered with the influence of the Chairman, or with his votes. Let the House remember that the Chairmen of Committees were not appointed by those Committees, but by a Committee of this House, which feet alone showed the importance the House attached to that office. He had brought forward this question with no other object in view than those he had stated ; but he did not mean to say that it was the best remedy that eould be proposed; but he had, at least, the satisfaction of knowing that he had called the attention of the House to it, and with these observations he begged to propose the motion of which he had given notice. Lord G. SOMERSET said he was not by any means pre pared to contend that it was not a misfortune that the business of the House could not be reduced to a smaller amount ; but in the present state of the public business he was bound to admit that this question was one of a very serious character. He did not recollect whether the Hon. Member opposite was present when the subject of the Chairman's rote was discussed ; but amongst those who were present there appeared to be but one opinion, and that was that each Committee should be com posed of five Members, and also that the Chairman of each Committee should have a double vote when a necessity should arise for a casting vote. But what was the remedy proposed by the Hon. Member? It was this, that when a Committee did happen to consist of only four Members, the proceedings of that Committee should stop until the Members had been reduced to three. Now he ( Lord Granville Somerset) did think that such a course would be extremely inconvenient. He did not propose that three should be an absolute quorum. Now, if they took one member off, and the Committee should be reduced to two, that would be, in point of fact, giving the decision to the Chairman. In cases where property to the amount of several millions was concerned, that would not certainly be right or judicious. How. ever talented and honourable the Chairman of a Committee might be, what respect, he should like to know, would the House be inclined to pay to the decision of one gen tleman ? Besides, it was asking a gentleman to take upon him self such a responsibility as they had no right to ask from him. It was exposing him to all sorts of mis representations, and if he were chairman of a committee, he should hesitate long before he ventured under such circum stances to come to a decision. The House ought not to place any Hon. Gentleman in such a position, and he considered that it would be most unfortunate if the House were to adopt the pro position of the Hon. Gentleman. Mr. LABOUCHERE agreed with the Noble Lord who had just sat down in opposing the motion of his Honour able Friend. At the same time, he thought that the House ought to be much obliged to his Honourable Friend for having brought forward the subject. The case to which his Hon. Friend had referred was not a mere speculative one. It actually occurred; and one of the most important of the Railway Committees had been reduced to four Mem bers. Now, what was the course which, under such cir cumstances, the House ought to pursue ? He thought that the Chairman ought to be deprived of the power of voting. He did not think that a Committee should be left in such a state as that it might be possible that a question involving mil lions of property should be decided by two members of the Com mittee, in opposition to the opinion of the Chairman. He was decidedly of opinion that the best course which they could adopt would be to allow the Chairman to have a double vote on such occasions. Mr. WARBURTON thought that the very best plan pro posed was allowing the double vote to the chairman, but he should support the tertium quid, as the determination of the Committee was not final. He did not think that the chair man should be deprived of that influence which he would pos sess on other occasions. Mr. G. VERNON ventured to say, that in no other as sembly was there such a practice as that at present followed in Railway Committees. Mr. WARD thought that whichever of the propositions were carried, some means should be devised for rescuing the Chair man of a Committee from the position in which he would be placed in those circumstances, if liable to such accidents. He did not see why the Chairman should be prevented from ex pressing his opinion because two gentlemen expressed their opinions before. Sir G. GREY said he would propose an amendment to the motion of his Hon. Friend—that upon all questions before Railway Committees, on which there was'a difference of opi nion, those questions should be decided by the majority of voices; but where the members on the Committee were even, _ _ ;hat the Chairman should have two voices, or a casting voice. Mr. F. SHAW seconded the amendment. He entirely con. curred with the Hon. Gentleman opposite. Under all the cir cumstances, he believed that the best way to meet the difficulty of this question was to give a double vote to the Chairman. Any other mode would only lead to irregularity and confusion. Mr. GISBORNE conceived that those Hon. Gentleinen who had done him the honour to attend to his few remarks would not be surprised at his proposing to withdraw the mo tion which he had submitted, in deference to the strong opinion expressed on both sides of the House. Mr. BROTHERTON thought that the analogy proposed by the amendment was in accordance with the analogy of the House, and be should, therefore, support it. Mr. GRANVILLE VERNON said at the quarter sessions it was the custom for the Chairman to be deprived of his casting rote when there were only three beside himself, but when the numbers were equal the Chairman retained his casting vote, and he thought this plan ought to be adopted in the Select Committees. Lord EBRINGTON said, that in the Committee on the affa'rs of New Zealand, of which he was a member, this prin ciple had been adopted, and Lord Stanley had so arranged that there should always be a majority of one. Lord H. VANE said that as the opinion had been so strongly expressed on both sides of the House, he hoped the Noble Lord would accede to the request which had been so strongly expressed. After a few words from Lord G. SOMERSET, the motion was agreed to. On the motion of Mr. GREENE the Gravesend and Ro -- Railway Bill was read a second time, and ordered to Xstt- be comnutft- .1 : ^/ 4 brought up the report of the Great Mr. LANGSII,... •-n R a ilway Bill. Grimsby and Sheffield Juhcc..._ from Perth in .. Mr. FOX MAULE presen ted a "111. favour of the Edinburgh and Northern Railway The Great North of Eng land Railway (Clarence and ru... pool Junction) Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. Sir R. PEEL moved that the House at its rising should ad journ to Thursday the 15th of May.--(Cries of " Friday, Friday.") In answer to a few observations from an How. MEMBER (inaudible in the gallery), The RIGHT BON. BARONET said he had given notice of his intention to move the adjournment of the House to Thursday, and he felt bound to adhere to his original notice. Sir ROBERT PEEL said the Hon. Member opposite ap peared to rely upon the fulfilment by him of a promise upon this question ; but he feared he should postpone doing so until after the holidays, the Government business was so heavy. The O'CONOR DON asked for leave of absence for three weeks for Colonel White, which was granted. MR. WALLACE'S PETITION. ..,_tl e Mr. DUNCOMBE said he would beg leave to move that the petition he presented from Robert Wallace, Esq., last night be printed, with the votes. — ( Laughter. ) Mr. FOX MAU LE wished to know if the. Hon. Member for Finsbury was really serious in pressing this, with a view to found a motion upon it ?—( Laughter. ) Mr. DUNCOAIBE said it really..v,•as his intention to found a motion upo4 the petition, but he would promise that it would not be quite so long as the petition itself.—( Hear, and laughter.) His motion would be to this effect, that the petition be referred to a Select Committee, who should inquire and report to this House upon the pra3er of the petition, which was to the effect that the House should inquire how far it was expedient to discontinue the Railway Department of the Board of Trade.—( Laughter.) If the House should agree to the printing of the petition, then be would move the resolution he had read.—( Hear.) But when he received the petition he wrote to Mr. Wallace, to say he did not think the House would do so—(Laughter)—but Mr. Wallace did not agree with him—(Laughter)—and he appeared to know those matters better than be did.—( Laughter.) However, as he (Mr. Duncombe) believed that petitions of this sort were not usually printed with the votes, he would withdraw it. Mr. Sergeant MURPHY, at the suggestion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, withdrew the motion of which he had given notice, and which was, that the petition of the churchwardens of the town and parish of Wokingham, in the counties of Berks and Wilts, be printed. IRISH BANKS BILL Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet opposite when it was his intention to proceed with the measure on Banking in Ireland? S;r ROBERT PEEL sail that the Bill had been brou-ht in and ordered to be printed. As far as the Treasury business was concerned, he was anxious to proceed with it as soon as possible. He could not state with accuracy the pre cise day, but he could say that it would be an early day. The Right Hon. Gentleman then took the opportunity of saying that as he was prepared to take estimates on Friday night next be would, on that night, state what particular estimates it was his intention to take. PAROCHIAL SETTLEMENT BILL; Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD asked when it was in• tended to proceed with the Yarochial• Settlement Bill? Sir JAMES GRAHAM replied that it was not his inten tion to proceed with the Parochial Settlement Bill, which stood upon the orders of the day for that evening, until after the resolution to be moved by the Noble Lord the Member for London should have been disposed of. He would, therefore, postpone the second reading of that Bill till the 9th of June. As he was about to trespass upon the indulgence of the House somewhat out of order, in bringing forward an im portant motion, he would, if the House, cho e, sit down, until the public . pet itions had beeen yr!sented. r --( _pc. on. ) ACADEMICAL INSTITUTIONS(IRELAND). Sir. J. GRAHAM, who had resumed his seat for an in stant, then rose, and addressed the House as fellows:—Sir, recollecting that it is the disposition of the House that I should at once proceed, I will now address you, though not at very great length, on the subject of the motion which stands in tay name on the books of the House, and in so doing it is not my intention to trespass long upon the attention of the House. I shall not dilate either upon the importance or upon the difficulty of the subject which I am about to bring under your notice, not that lam disposed to underrate either its importance or its difficulty; neither will the House under rate its importance when I state that the object of the motion is the improvement of the social condition of the people of Ireland; nor will they underrate its difficulty when I state that the means suggested by her Majesty's Government for the improvement of that social condition, consist in diffus ing the benefits of education among the middle and higher classes in Ireland. Sir, in dedong with this subject of edu cation, it cannot be concealed, :n fact experience has demonstrated that religious differences constitute the great di Fculty in the way of the establishment of any genet al system of education. In Ireland certainly this difficulty is not of the same character as that which we have had to deal with in England.—( Hear, hear.) We have not in that country the same different modifications of religious opinions which we have in England. Still in that country we meet with one great and striking anomaly. The religion of the great majority of the people of that country has been for centuries treated by the State as a hostile reli gion.—(Opposition cheers.) Even now that has not been entirely removed.—( Hear, hear.) Civil equality has been granted to the Roman Catholics of both countries. The penal laws have been removed, or are in process of removal, still there are traces remaining of that disposition on the part of the State to which I have referred, and these traces are nowhere more perceptible or more nox ious than when they interfere with the education of the people. Now, Sir, I have stated this difficulty—a difficulty which has been clearly ascertained and admitted. It has been the subject of repeated inquiries—by Commission—by Committees of this House from a very early period since the passing of the Union, and, in later times, we have not only the advantage of the pre cise nature of the difficulty being ascertained, but we have the far greater advantage of considerable practical experience of the made by which that difficulty may be satisfactorily encoun tered, and certainly overcome. I will shortly, Sir, refer to some of the inquiries which have been instituted on this subject. In the first place I will refer you but before I make reference to the report to which I shall shortly advert, I will simply make one observation, that the various plans for educating the people of Ireland with the aid of Go vernment grants which have been made, and the various attempts which have been made have gene rally failed wherever there has been an interference with conscience in matters of religion.—( Hear.) 1 state th.s broadly as my opinion. Now, Sir, I would first advert to a very remarkable inquiry that was instituted by commission in 1806, I will advert to the report of that Commission, made in the year 1812. It is important, with reference to the subject to which it is now my duty to call your attention, and I hope you will pardon me if I read a few ex tracts from that report, - because this report appears to me to contain the germ of the sound principles on which the difficulties of establishing a system of national education in Ireland are to be met, and, also, it contains the principle on which the measure which I am now about to pro pose to you is generally founded. The Commission was ap pointed in 1806, and its report presented in 1812. I beg the attention of the House to these remarkable words—" We have applied our efforts to the forming of a system which, whilst it will afford the opportunity of educa tion to every description of the lower classes of the people"—in passing, I may observe, that the prin ciples on which we stand, are not limited to the lower classes, but are capable of extension to all classes in Ire land. The principle is that the proposed system is open to every description of the lower classes of the people, while at the same time by keeping clear of all differences with respect to the particular religious tenets of any, it will induce the whole to receive its benefits as one united body, and under one and the same system and the same establishment. (LEFT SPEAKING.) SECONDARIES.--(THIS DAY.) (Before Mr. Secondary JAMES.) BROWNING V. CLARKSON. This was an action to recover 12/., the amount of a bill of ex change, of which the defendant was the drawer. The defendant pleaded payment of 91. on account, and 3/. 10s. into Court. To prove the payment two witnesses were called, who stated that they were present when 9/. was paid to plaintiff, who re marked, " This is not busiLess at ter a bill being over due a month. I ought to have the whole of the 124 Mr. CIIARNOCK, for the plaintiff, said he did not deny the re ceipt of the 91., nor that It was originally paid on account of the 121. bill, although the plaintiff had discounted several others for the defendant ; but should prove that the latter requested him to bring an action against the acceptor, and that the defendant said that the amount paid might be appropriated towards the costs of the action. Mr. Dennithorn was called, and proved that he paid the 91. on account of defendant, whom he afterwards accompanied to the plaintiff's. Defendant said he should like to give Childs (the ac ceptor) a turn, and if plaintiff would bring the action he would see him clear. Defendant afterwards went again and said he had no money, but plaintiff had better go on, and he would send two carts as a security for another bill coming due. William Bull, clerk to plaintiff's attorney, proved the service of the writ on defendant. Defendent then said, " I was never served with a writ in my life before. I intended to pay him, but now he shall never have a farthing." Defendant ordered the action against Childs to be stopped. Mr. Tisomss contended that this evidence did not prove any direction to appropriate the money to costs. The UNDER.SIIERIFF said, that if the money was originally paid. on the bill, there must be an express direction'or permission to apply it to any other purpose. An action might be recovered for costs incurred at the request of defendant, who ought to pay. Mr. CLARKSON considered that where an action was brought on behalf of another on a bill of exchange, a written guarantee was requisite to secure costs, but here the money was the security. The jury gave a verdict for defendant. DEATH OF THE REV. Dn. WELSH.—It is with sin cere regret we announce the death of this eminent gentleman, which took place at Drumferk House, near Helensburgh, on Thursday evening. He was a man whose mental ciltivation and intellectual stores were of no ordinary kind, and which eminently fitted him for the academical chair which he occupied, first in the University of Edinburgh, and latterly in the New College con nected with the Free Church.—Ayr Observer. MR. BALFE'S NEW OPERA, " THE ENCITANTRESS."— Mons. De St. Georges has arrived in town to superintend the re hearsals of this opera, the libretto of which he has written. Mr. Balfe seems to have been inspired by the beauty of the poetry, as he has been very fortunate in composing many melodies remarkable for their beauty and freshness of style. There are thirty pieces of music in the opera, ten of which are sung by the charming Anna Thillon. Many novel effects are introduced in the overture. Die anise en scene is worthy of a theatre royal, and the scenery is indeed splendid, Madame Anna Thillon changing her costume seven times. THE KING OF TILE FRENCH . . His Majesty the King of the French has beets pleased to give the Society of the French in London another mark of his paternal solicitude, by for. warding, through Cuunt St. Aulaire, the sum of 50/. in aid of their funds. TRUE ClVlLlSATlON.—Prosecutions have already commenced against the press in Algeria. This is the strongest proof we have yet heard of the colony becoming every day more and more French.--Punch. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, May 8. RAILWAYS. Lord REDESDALE said there was one remedy, and one re medy only, which would he for Parliament to throw out a few Bills which grossly interferred with the rights of private property. If that wore done in one or two instances, rail way companies would be snore careful to frame their Bills in a proper manner. Of late years there had been an opinion that railway schemes were so much to the advantage of the country that Parliament was bound to look at r ailway Bills favourably, and the consequence had been that the railway com panies had become completely careless of the private rights of individuals. Earl FITZ\% LLIAM said that thekffieulould be the same. In order to avoid consenting Wit hardship ty w infliated on a private individual, they would prevent the completion of a railway which would be a great public good. Lord BEDESDALE—It would only be postponing it for a year. Lord CAMPBELL thought there could be no difficulty whatever in the present instance. The railway actually cut through this gentleman's property, and in that case a jury would experience that juries remainder, and he h would g ive him compensation, not o t n o ly th f , o , r It . as a hard ) a y y s came gave closeam p t l ample indemnity.an estate through, but m bu p t be f l o i k tl i) e ew it f r o r n y i without touching -'dual •t anecs -- 'dual had no remedy. is Noble Friend was labour iner stated that the meaning of eireu—. case where a 1... it, because then theinui... Lord 13 RO UGH AM thou gni. ... ing under a misapprehension; th e re ,„._ railway raked his land---,a most expressive term, .... whitli was well understood by his Noble Friend opposite. Noble and Learned Friend was also mistaken if he supposed that juries were now inclined to give proper compensation in rail way cases. Formerly they used to give extravagant compen sation, but they did not award extravagant compensation now. He was sorry to see that the railway speculators were now setting themselves up as an interest in opposition to the landed interest. He was sorry to see in the Railway Gazette such an expression as the following : " This is another job cf the land." This was said in allusion to the appoint ment of the Railway Commissioners for Scotland, as if the landed interest was against railways. This was very short-sighted on the part of the railway speculators. He believed that the landed interest profited by the extension of railways. He believed that the Syston and Peterborough Railway would be of great public advantage, but he thought it would be of great advantage to postpone for a year, as had bean recommended by his Noble Frieud, this and all other ralway schemes which "raked" the private property of indi viduals without their cowerit. lie wished on every scow, ... ... public as well as private, that Parliament should be prorogued 03 speedily as possible. He hoped the Government would ex pedite the public business as much as possible; and whenever the public business would admit of the prorogation taking place, it ought not to be s ticlayed one hour on account of any Railway Bills ; these that it was proper to allow to go on could be admitted ad eundem next session, and in the meantime the ..... railway fever would have had time to subside. The Marquis of SALISBURY complained that railway speculation existed to such an extent that it was almost im - possible to find a jury the persons composing which were not interested in railways, and they never awarded landed proprio. tors proper compensation. Earl FITZ WILLIAM said that Mr. Sowerby's case was a peculiar one ? I.e was the lessee under a gentleman who was again a lessee under some ecclesiastical body, and under these circumstances it was exceedingly probable that a jury would not award him that compensation to which their Lordships might consider him entitled. He wished that some principle should be laid down for the purchase of land used by railways. On the one hand, each individual was left to make his own bargain with the Company, without any principle to guide him as to the price he was to ask ' • and, on the other, there was no principle to guide the Railway Com pany as to the sum they were to offer, or the arbitrator, as to the compensation which he was to grant. All persons had not the same chance, and that was the difficulty which they ought to get over ; and if they could not do that, they ought to do something to palliate the grievance. He thought some principle might be laid down as a guide for that purpose. He was glad to see the Noble Duke in his place, as he was sure he was of the same opinion as himself. He had no doubt if those who were in power would put their shoulders to the wheel something might be done. The Duke of WELLINGTON had long been convinced of the hardness of the situation of proprietors of property, and particularly small proprietors.—(Hear, hear.) Considering that the undertakers of railways monopolized passengers and goods to an enormous amount, and made most extensive profits, he thought some principle ought to be adopted in order to en sure the proprietors of land full compensation for the injury and inconvenience inflicted upon them. The Duke of GRAFTON believed that in all compensations in the case of railways the same principle was acted upon with re'pect to the poor as the rich. The Earl of WINCHILSEA thought there had been no principle acted upon in giving compensation, and he believed that the course that had been pursued by railways had dune more to set the middling class against the higher then anything that had ever taken place. If Railway Companies chose to speculate and gamble, he for one would do all in his power to put an end to it . . Lord BEAUMONT complained of the Bill being hurried through the House, and said, that according to the principle laid down by the Noble Duke, no land could be taken for the purposes of railways, without due compensation ; but this was net the fact, for ac. cording to the Railways Consolidated Clauses Bill, parties were obliged to give up their property for railway Firm and take what was agreed to be given them for it, or i they submitted to arbitration or a jury, they had to pay half the ex penses of the proem ding,. If they did not pay this, and if the property taken did not meet the expenses, in the event of such adjudication, they were liable to have a distress issued out against them. He considered a clause ought to be introduced into the Bill founded on a more just principle to meet cases of this kind. Lord STANLEY thought the Noble Lord who had just sat down laboured under a misunderstanding respecting the provisions of the Bill to which he had referred. What re lated to compensation in that Bill was what was introduced into every railway Bill that passed through Parliament. If any case of hardship respecting particular individuals existed, such parties were in no worse a position, as far as this Bill was concerned, than they were before, and he was sure that in any case not su ffi ciently met by he provisions of that Bill, Parliament at any time, on good reason being shown, would interfere and protect them if it were necessary, even to the throwing out of the railway Bill complained of. It had been said, that Government had hurried through the Bill. So far from this being the case, it had undergone the most rigid examination in the other House. It underwent many night's discussion in that House, and all its provisions were most carefully criticised: It was difficult to lay down any general principle upon which compensation should be awarded. The difficulty was not so much with regard to land, as with reference to other kinds of property . — the interference with the comforts of individuals, and , questions of nuisance. All that could be done in such cases was to assign to each party, be he rich or poor, a just and equitable tribunal to assess damages. It was impossible to lay down any general principle that could meet complaints of nuisance or matters in which individual comfort and convenience were involved. It was provided in the Bill that parties whose claims were sub jected to the adjudication of a jury, if they got greater damages than they originally claimed,the railway company was bound to pay all expenses. But if the jury gave a less sum than that previously claimed, however exorbitant that sum might have been, he had still only to pay his own expenses, the company being necessitated to pay all theirs. Parliament, he was sure, had done its duty, and if at any time cases should arise that could not be reached by the ordinary channels, Parliament had full power to interfere, and he had lie doubt would interfere were good reasons shown. Lord BEAUMONT considered that the Noble Lord (the Secretary for the Colonies) bad not fairly met his statement. He (Lord Beaumont) denied that the poor man had equal jus tice with the rich. No doubt that both had equally the privi lege of petitioning against a Bill, but the rich man could ap pear iu defence of his petition by counsel, whereas the poor man had no means in his power of doing so. His petition went into that large blue bag and was no more heard of.—( Hear.) The Earl of DALHOUSIE begged to correct the state ments of the Noble Lord who had just sat down. He was sur prised to hear it complained of, that the Government was hurrying the Bill through with undue haste. Their Lord ships would recolloct that he did not place the Bill on the journals of the House till a week after it was introduced, when a day was fixed for its second reading. On the evening fixed upon for the second reading, the greater portion of the House went to dinner before the debate came on. It was, however, read a second time, and afterwards fully debated in Com mittee. Noble Lords were therefore not justified in saying that the Bill had been hurried through the House. With respect to the right of petitioning,the rich and poor were on an equal footing. It was true that the rich man could appear by counsel, which the poor had not the means of doing, but tbis was not a grievance peculiar to this ques tion;; the same difficulty, as far as the poor man was con cerned, existed in courts of law, and many other places. The machinery introduced into this Bill regarding compensa tion was much improved, and afforded the poor man, as far as the circumstances of the case would admit, equal access to justice with the rich man, and equal opportunity of command ing full compensation. Earl FITZWILLIAM disclaimed all participation in the sentiments expressed by his Noble Friend against the Govern ment, but he did nut think that railway Bills were of a satisfactory character. A railway company, in his opinion, ought to be placed, so far as taking land was concerned, in precisely the same position as a private gentleman who wished to construct a road for his own immediate convenience. He gave notice that, after the holidays, he would move for a Com mittee to inquire whether the mode of dealing. between rail way Companies and the proprietors of land, could not bo placed upon a better footing than it was at present. Lord BELHAVEN thought a railway Company ought to be compelled to arrange with the landholders whose property would be interfered with by the line before Parliament granted them an Act to construct it. After a few words from Lord Vivian and Lord BROUGHA m, The Marquis of LONDONDERRY remarked that, as many of the projected railways would pass over coal mines, it might so happen that, in the course of time, they might give way, and inflict serious injury, not only upon the owner of the mine, but the public at large. He, therefore, wished to ask the Noble Lord whether the Railway Clauses Consolidation Bill made any provision for the purchase, by the railway Company, of the mine as well as of the surface of the earth? Lord DALHOUSIE was understood to reply in the affirmative. The matter then dropped. The Bail in Error Bill went through Committee, and the report was ordered to be brought up after the holidays. The Privy Council Appellate Jurisdiction Bill was read a third time and passed, a clause being introduced to postpone its operation to the Ist of January, 1846. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. On the motion of the Duke of WELLINGTON, their Lordships then adjourned for the holidays till Friday, the 6th instant. HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 8. • ACADEMICAL EDUCATION (IRELAND.) Sir J. GRAHAM gave notice that he should to.morrow (this day) move for leave to bring in a Bill to enable her the convenience learning i ll n l a j l e r s e t l y a n t d o , e a n n d d o w h e two h c o o u l g l e h g t e si it would th e advancementbe to of the House if he brought forward twat motion at five o'clock, giving it precedence over all other public businees.—( Hear.) Sir C. NAPIER wished to make some explanation respect ing the strong expressions which he had used on a former oc. casion upon the conduct of Lord Seaton towards the Ban dieras. Since he made those remarks he had received further nforrnation, and was better able to judge of the facts. lie bad received a letter from a relative of his, now in the Mediter ranean, containing the whole facts of the case, which he read to the House. The substance of the letter went to show that Lord Seaton had exercised sufficient discretion in the course he had pursued in refraining from.apprehending the brothers i Bandiera while n Corfu, and in refusing to send a vessel to prevent them from landing at Calabria. With this explanation he expressed his regret at having spoken so strongly on a pre vious occasion. RAILWAY COMMITTEES. Mr. GISBORNE, seeing the Noble Lord the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in his place, begged e to s ask t him mm w i h t y . there had been a change in the system of . th 1 in several they t e e o e n s s ? isted W o h t en fi v e t hi‘esieemberMembers, while Committeeshile now w re hl e or f t o g , : n na d ll e Y t ' h f a o t rm i four. He wished to of these Committees there p y lace, and the Commit ,ivi,:iho:ntehtreaerkinottne ayes were to have it whether the chairman was tehgeuaelvleyntodroi divided, rice t a ii.cee d d against the Watts, know,tee was ln d vote? to be entitled to a secon . of which the Hon. Member complained. He avoid the evil versa, or Lord G. SOMERSET' said that it had been impossible to presumed, that in the case of a division, the chairman would not be entitled to a second vote, but, when there were two against two, the question would be carried in the affirmative. Mr. GISBORNE gave notice that he would, on an early day, shou l i d no s v u si sp t e h n a al d t til l Committees eir,,peratien n s e u o nt si il st t i i n ie g c o al f only four lofthe lemhers House. LUNATIC ASYLUMS IN IRELAND. Colonel RAWDON said he was anxious to know if it watt the intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce this setsion iny measure in reference to the laws of debtor and creditor, and the confinement of criminal lunatics in Ireland ? Sir T. FREMANTLE said there was a Bill in preparation in reference to the law affecting criminal lunatics in Ireland, and it would be laid before the House immediately alter the holidays. But he was not prepared to say that there was any mea ore in reference to the other subject mentioned by the Gallant officer, in preparation. AUSTRALIAN GRAIN AND FLOUR. . . .. - . Mr. HUTT begged to move, " That the House resolve it self into a Committee of the whole House, for the purpose of considering the following resolution : That it is expedient to permit Grain and Flour, the produce of Australasia, to be im ported into the United Kingdom (0 payment of the sane amount of duty as is now levied on Grain and Flour the pro duce of Canada." In proposing this motion, he hoped he woulA be heard with patience while he made a few observations on this important schject. The House should be aware that the attachment, of the Colonies could only be secured by a system -ood government, and their amount of usefulness to ;he AI . t , . -•ry by the measure of prosperity they themselves Parentr - , - , --1 d beg leave to remind Honourable Members "i 6 S"' lie w '''''" • <fuse his motion, by alleging that a who might be disposed'', r grain fr om that colon; would be likely he t° , f in re j e ur i e ir ;h p e or a ta4i i n t protection lads, to which they were so much . attached; ° Lists of this country? by trenching upon t he manded the attention of the House with those of the _ would remind them that there were Interests whicfhequaally,d7-.. the Australians. IN hat and they refused the same liberty to . that treatment? They allowed the Canadians to introduce their corn , free, , anel .. they done that they should be subject to . liable to to the same laws, and why shou,ld they Why not they in the same favour and proteetinon .between portions of the They were subject to the same Soverelgorit, ba.end obedient stitute a legislative distin ction 01 c o nsiderations of juatiee warslio; of expeOrPce? d $ , to set . aside all the sane people? What could to_i,rtricloaruede them ..0......,. 49 - Y•) ►dy. ' r ipe. ost inAm* estYl J • 1. 011- x :fa if. • I cc' el " 041 11 d e ' übt etl Pe an d 15e 111 : 1 dill -3 r 'orpt; 11 rot* O O'Y I to lOn