The Sun. — London, England, 1851-07-30 00:00:00

Since than, having received no further accounts of what bad taken place, a dispatch from the Court or Directors was approved by the board, and was no doubt dispatched by the mail which left this in the early part of tha month, bringing the subject to the attention of the Go vernment, and desiring that every means be taken to ex pedite the payment of such claims as were duly proved. Every arrangement nad been made by the Court to carry into effect the payments which would be made iu this country, and particularly to insure to the parties a safe mode of remittance. It was not in his power to state at what particular period their claims wool f be settled, be cause he had no information beyond the fact already mentioned of the local Act which was necessary for the purpose of enablin Government to settle these claims baying been read a second time in F. , bruary last. If that Act had passed the Council of India, he concluded the claims must now be in the course of settlement. If that were not the case, the dispatch to which he had re ferred would no ,doubt hasten that settlement. DUTY ON HOPS. Mr. FRE WEN rose to move the resolution of which he had given notice —" That the Excise duty on hops is impolitic and unjust, and ought to be repealed at an early period." He had brought the subject forward in Compliance with the urgent r: quest of a large number of his constituents. His Honourable Friend (11r. Hodges) asked for a partial reduction of this duty ; but, as the amount was not by any means large, the most politic Course would be to remove it entirely. In 1848. it amounted to 388,0001. ; in 1849, to 145 0001. ; in 1850, to 424,000/. A fair average would be 300,0001., or per haps a little under. It fell with great severity upon cer tain localities ; the eastern division of Sussex had to Pay about 100,000/. Thousands of acres had beers thrown out of cultivation, or were left, comparatively speaking, uncultivated, and tenants could not be go't on any terms. A tax might as well be laid upon orchards—upon apples—as upon hops.—(Bear, hear.) A gentleman who was agent to a Noble Lord, a Member of that House, consulted a great number of large planters last Saturday at Hastings, and re quested him (Mr. Frewen) to state that if the wholeEx oisa duty on hops was repealed they should not oppose the repeal of the Customs duty; the If4xcise duty was so heavy that, with free trade in hops, they would be placed in a more favourable position than at present. In fact, the protection they had was not at all adequate to coun tervail this enormous war -tax. The export of hops for 1846 amounted to 448,4971 b.; the import to 228,8001 b. In 1847 the export was 457,0611 b.; the import, 245,2801 b. There was a large export of British hops to those coun tries were hops were grown—Germany and Belgium, for instance. There were large exports to Holland and to Si. Petersburgh. With the Excise duty removed, the English planter would not have much to fear from foreign importations.---(Hear, hear.) His claim was strengthened by the precarious nature of the crop, which was some times abundant and sometimes blighted.—(Hear, hear.) Upon the whole, and considering that war prices no longer ruled, and that we had returned to cash pay tams, he trusted the Hone would see the injustice of Continuing a tax, almost the only war-tax which had not been repealed or mitigated since the war. Mr. FULLER seconded the motion. Mr. HODGES moved, 04 an amendment, " That on 1 41 1 y reduction of Excise duty on hops taking place, it is expedient to reduce the Excise duty on British hops, and the Customs duty on foreign hops by ld. per pound Weight each, together with the five per cent. additional duty thereon granted by the Act 3 Victoria, cap. 17." If the original motion succeeded, it could only be on the condition of the total repeal of the duty on foreign hops; and he believed there was not unanimity by any means among the Hon. Member's constituents upon that sub ject. The planters in Kent were by no means prepared to consent to the repeat of the duty on foreign hops; he (Mr. Hodges) believed very few of them would advocate It.-----(Hear, hear.) He knew the extreme distress of the '°P - growing districts, end felt convinced that they were most unjustly treated, and, however this motion might f uil• he should feel it iiis duty to bring the subject before the House next session. It was easy to say that the Plantation might be reduced, but it must be remembered that the crop WAS precarious, and the plantation must be l arge to secure a sufficient supply. He hoped those who might be in office next year would take the subject into their serious consideration, and endeavour to put an end to the complaints of this interest. Mr. BARROW remarked, that of the three parties unnceraed in this question, the labourer, the hopgrower, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the labourer was m ost interested, for the wages paid on account of hop c ultivation ran from 101. to 131. an acre, which was ten t imes the amo u nt paid f o r cu lti va ti ng lands to yield com mon farming crops. The hopgrower paid above 51. an %ere to the Government, and for years past would have been glad to have gone shares with the Chanc e ll or o f t he Exchequer. He had not risen to second the amend teent, but to state that it was on account of the labour ing classes that he gave his voice in favour of reducing the duty. Sir G. PECHELL seconded the amendment. tar. CURTEIS observed, that the crop of last ye a r h ad been di spose d o f t o mee t th e d ut i es o f 1848 an d 84 9, and where the money was to be got to pay accru ing duties it was hard to say. He approved the motion of the Ron, Member for East Sussex, and hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer ,would promise some relief for next year. e The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought e 'n would best consult the general feeling of the House °Y not going into derails on the subject of the hop duty, be en that the financial arrangements of the year had i 'en made, and an alteration in the duty could not be poduced in the present year. Thu Hon. Member for th e must be perfectly aware that he (the Ch ance llor o f Exchequer) would be exceedingly rash Hire were to t° apromise with reference to the future. H e hoped I'o Efouse would concur with him in opinion that it was advisable to take any step in the matter at this Period. tfte S ir J, TYRELL entered his protest against the course " 4 ell by h e r M a jesty's Ministers in getting rid of p ro - It s3si tinna with reference cili to the burdens on land. Availing e naselves of the imbety of the party behind him— (ur; laugh) —the Government treated the agricultural ts t ilea in a c ava li e r manner, saying they had no case, h ough from time to time cases of gross injustice were /1144 e out. that COBDEN sa id, it might be taken for granted at a free-trade Government and a free-trade Parliament d ° Uld take off the Customs' duty on hops if the Excise t4 ,4 4' were removed. The Hon. Member for East Sussex ad t he Hon. Member for West Kent were opposed in wlt y , views of this tax. It operated so unequally that it oth a a protection in one county as compared with the th e r• If there were no other ground for objection to i t ,,tax than the inequality of pressure, that would of to eir be sufficient to condemn the tax. Bat he objected hu t_la.e hop -tax as a bungling contrivance. Every year a o uher of supernumerary excisemen were employed for 4? a few weeks. The plan of t proceeding was unworthy th, li f e age, and of England. He would, therefore, abolish " 4 - 1 , nn account of the clumsy mode of collection. a great uncertainty of the tax was another objection to ri som etimes it yielded 40,0004 or 50,0001.; at other mes 400,0001. or 500,0001. Such variations not only de ,tuged the Chancellor of the Exchequer's calculations, t:t those of every banker in the hop di str i cts were su bj ect ehe® the same fluctuati ons . Th e r e was no ground on which t ax should b e ma i nta i ne d ; i t was sma ll i n amo un t, oe ptional in its character, and he hoped the Chancellor tot ) " Exchequer w ou ld f ee l i t to b e a t ax w hich ought he dealt w i t h ear l y. Whether the Hon. Mem b er who made the motion p roceeded to a divis i on or not , h e 11 v 7 . .". Cobden) certai n l y went with him heartily i n t h e ualnsition for the removal o f t h e hop duty. d u T 4 '. BASS expressed hi s b e li ef that the removal o f t h e P en malt would bo attended with more satisfactory alts than the concession of theproposition made by the Li% Member for East Sussex. • BODGES withdrew his amendment; and, VREWEN having briefly replied, e Rouse divided, when there appeared—. For Mr. Frewen's motion ... Against it ••• 30 ••• ••• 59 -29 Majority .-- kr CRYSTAL Iity T tv H O E ODt LACE. to move—" That en her Majesty, praying 11,anable address be presented to h rove iA direct, in to • teit her Majesty will be graciously pleased fit, that the Crystal lach manner as to her may seem ---, Ar t, with a !! P ale be preserved until the Ist of l ' ay 11 2 7 portion ,s.ve to determine if that novel structure, or til ty of it, can be adapted to purposes of appropri ation re creation," Among the grounds onpwubhilicch utility L .,,, t, of the building raised in Hyde-park to the object k id . td ' his • desirable, he ica ein motion seemed to be tho ught l p that not the least important was suggested,was til hen it was considered how much larger London was At p , re- EL n any other capital in Europe or America. r 'snt 1 ,, a, most successful exhibition of works of industry a4r , going on in the building to which he had alluded, b 1" hich, though it had assumed the form of a glass re44_4,cZwas commenced with the idea of making it a large it:k building with an enormous dome. Considerable . _ . 41'venience ho was aware, had been experienced by Q ; 8°,1 6 Who had residences along the road near the p ilp 4 e s tal Palace ; but a large glass conservatory for the opt ".n o se of recreation and amusement would . not, in his t F L 4 ° l ; be attended with any such inconvenience as th h a '3e,e;'"ich complaint might have been made.. What the eo mse the House to do was, to give its sanction to tio, ll : n nance of the Crystal Palace for such a length of fe te tis would enable information to be gained with re fer`rlce to its future use, partly for pleasure and partly . v va scientific purposes.—(Hear, hear.) He thought t he l r t e t . ti 3 c , matter well worthy of consideration, whether for t it might be f orme d i nto a good winter garden The the i nhabitants of the metropolis.—(Hear, hear.) b 4t re were gentlemen in that House fond of riding, alightheYfound Rotten-row wet and sloppy. often of it not, then, be considered how far one part redint,,hak Crystal Palace could be converted into a leetel -u cuse? If such a thing were practicable, it part of be a great advantage to that ee." (21, the metropolis. With respect to one of the sci 06e usea to which the palace might be applied, they i.coes, Regent's.. , 1 , 1 an exampl e of what ho meant in the Botanical Gar park. The conservatory there was a But wide range ` t ? del of what he thought might be established within ef the Crystal Palace.—(Hear, hear.) 1 1 . 11 t there was another view of the case. The British fo r was deficient in the toe r the receptionroom necessary of all the antiquities provided _ it ; and the greatest naturalists agreed that the spece 'merle of natural history there would be exhibited to great i'llvsaotage under glass.—(Hear, hear.) The British l e cure would soon be far more than tilled both in the try department and in that of antiquities, arid he to , ußht the third department, that of natural history, T t ilt be suceessfully transferred to the Crystal I;Z i te ar-) The way in Which the Royal Commissioners fleeted Palace. conducted the whole affair of the Exhibition re hi _ great credit upon them, and he must say that tin ', noyal Highness Prince Albert, who was trained great the Astronomer Royal at Brussels, anal made 7eira,'a.t proficiency in his mathematical stuthes, was bly fitted to be at the head of each a body ' Coreagesionere for the promotion of any scientific 'l7 E SUN, object whatever.—(Hear, hear.) There had been nothing about the Exhibition that was not gratifying and successful; but nevertheless it must dis appear by the Ist of June, and therefore he proposed that no steps should be taken towards the removal of the building till the Ist of May, so as to afford time for a Bill being passed next session, if snail was thought advi sable, to authorize the Commissioners to retain pos,es sion of the palace.—(Hear, hear.) The Commissioners would not, in a pecuniary point of view, be held respon sible; and he must at the same time say, that be thought Mr. Paxton and Messrs. Fox and Henderson, who had distinguished themselves so much in the erection of the building, deserved much from the Commissioners in the way of reward, and he should not he sorry to hear that a considerable sum came to them when the change took place.—(Hear, hear.) It had been stated by good judges that a very little change, at a moderate expense, would adapt the building to its new use, for the comfort, re creation, and instruction of the inhabitsns.—(Hear, hear.) In that particular part of the metropolis there was a general absence of places of public resort and amusement. The only place of public resort was Tat tersall's—(A laugh)—there was nothing analogous to the Zoological and Botanical gardens in the Regent's park. As to any nuisance being created rf which the inhabitants could complain, he might observe that the arrangements of the police hitherto had been excellent, end the same order could be easily preserved under whatever character the Crystal Palace appeared.—(Hear, hear.) The particular style of architecture called crystal architecture was new to historians, and the megnifiaent specimen in Hyde-park would, no doubt, be spoken of in future history as one 01 the great features of the age iu which wo lived, and one not unworthy to be ranked with railways, the penny postage, and other inventions.—(Hear.) There were besides, associations connected with this building that ought to create a feeling favourable to its pre3ervation; such, for example, as the magnificent scene at the open ing of the Exhibition by her Majesty. The Crystal Palace might be described as the nearest approach to a ladies' club that had ever been constructed, for there, under proper regulations, a lady might walk about with as much security and quiet as in her own drawicg-roote. —(Hear, hear.) As to the changes to be made in the building, a variety might be suggested for consideration, such as fitting up the lower sashes with glass, intaxsec ting it with streets, and so on; but all he asked at pre sent was the sanction of the House for delay, in order that future arrangements might be well considered. — (Hear, hear.) He was satisfied that the conversion of the Crystal Palace into a place of public resort would tend greatly to promote the sanitary condition of the inhabitants, inasmuch as it would enable many persons to go out frequently for personal enjoyment who would otherwise remain at their firesides, to the injury of their general health—(Hear, hear)—while it could, at the same time, be made conducive to the promotion of scien. tific pursuits.—(Elear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman concluded by making his motion as above. Colonel SIBTHORP would oppose out and out the motion of the Hon. Member. He had declared his op position to the erection of this Crystal Palace from the first, as he considered it a gross attack upon the rights of the people of this country.—(A laugh.) He was somewhat gratified when he found he was borne out in that opinion by such men as Lord Brougham, Lord Campbell, and Mr. Justice Creswell; and ho had never seen any cause to change the views he had at first ex pressed. What had been the resuh of the erection of this Crystal Palace? In the first place there had been, and for a long time to come would be, gross desecration of the Sabbath—(A laugh)—demoralization of the people, and a complete disunion of parties. In the next place, poverty greater than existed before had been engendered. He bad heard with pain that the poor of this country had been seduced to come up to see this palace.—(A laugh.) All that they had saved and all they could borrow had been in many cases spent in this foolish journey, and he knew he spoke facts when he stated that not only had they borrowed money but pawned their clothes to enable them to come up to this " World's Fair," as it was called; and now they were left without a penny in their pockets. One-half of the tradesmen in the metropolis and the provincial towns would tell them that their trade w,.is lost—that they had no customers—all had gone to the Crystal Palace—(A laugh)—not merely for amusement, but, what was worse, to make future orders for the goods of foreigners, who came here to undersell the honest, industrious, and heavily-taxed people of England. The Crystal Palace might be a wonderful building externally, though he scarcely knew anything about it, for he considered it his dirty not to give it the slightest encouragement. He asked if it was the intention to break the solemn pledge and contract that had been made, and signed and sealed by her gracious Majesty, to remove this building? He believed that morally, religiously, and socially speak ing, it was a great curse to the country; and he hoped it was in such a state that it would come down whether they would or not, as it could not be kept up except at very great expense. After the exhibition of meanness on the part of the Commissioners when they came to that House and asked money for the payment of their clerks, he could expect nothinc , at their hands but trickery and manoeuvring. lie had given his might to oppose the erection of the Crystal Palace, though in that they were thwarted by the late Attorney-General ; and now as an honest man he felt it his duty to oppose by every means in his power the motion of the Hon. Gentleman opposite. Mr. LABOUCHERE had no intention of following the Gallant Officer through the great variety of topics to which he had adverted in his discursive speech, but, as one of the Commissioners, he begged to offer a few ob servations. He did not agree with the Gallant Officer in the general estimate he had formed of the merits of the Exhibition.—(Hear, hear.) His belief was that it had not only ministered to the gratification of hundreds of thousands of persons of all ranks and conditions— (Hear, hear)—but that its permanent effects on the trade of this country, as well as on the improvement of all the arts that ministered to the comfort and well-being of the people, would not be little.—(Hear, hear.) He de spaired, however, of making any impression upon the mind of the Gallant Colonel by any arguments he could use, and therefore would leave that question to the general sense of the House.—(felear, hear.) But the Gallant Officer talked of the general demoralization of the country caused by this Exhibition. Now, be be lieved nothing could be more moral, in the highest sense of the word, more humanizing, or civilizing, than the great spectacle they had seen in this coun try.—(Hear, hear.) So different were his views from those of the Gallant Colonel, that though he had seen with admiration the magnificent assemblage of works of industry collected within the marvellous structure which the genius of Paxton had raised, yet there was another spectacle he had seen with still greater delight, and that was the orderly demeanour of the hundreds of thousands of our fellow -countrymen of all ranks and classes, from the hives of industry in the macufacturing towns, as well as from the agricultural districts, almost without a single case being brought before the police, and without the slightest disturbance of the public peace, in spite of those sinister observations they had heard so much of, that the metropolis would be a scene of disorder, if not actually burnt and pillaged.—(Cheers.) Nor could he omit to say how gratifying it was to end that, notwithstanding the great influx of foreigners to our shores, there had scarcely occurred among them any more than amonr , our Own countrymen, a paltry police case or the slightest breach of the public peace.—(Hear.) He therefore formed a very different estimate of the Exhibition from that en tertained by the Gallant Officer; and he could not help re ferring to the circumstance, so gratifying to them as Englishmen, while it had excited the admiration of fo reigners, that all this had taken place without any display of military—(Cbeers)—that the mere staff of the police man, enforced by the love of order and of law which happily distinguished the people of this country, had crushed everything like disorder, notwithstanding that the streets of the metropolis were crowded beyond all former precedent.—(Cheers.) He would now make a few remarks upon the motion before the House. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Heywood) had brought forward a motion, asking the House, not to pledge themselves to the eventual and permanent maintenance of the building, but to consent that a sort of reprieve should be given to it, so as to enable them next session fully to consider the matter.—(Hear, hear.) On that question he, as a Commissioner, and as a member of the Government, would express no opinion whatever. He held that it was a question for that House to decide.—(Hear, hear.) Both as a Commissioner and as a member cf the Government, he considered himself pledged to pull down the building, unless th at H ouse expressed a different op i n i on. F ur his part, not for all that was in the Crystal Palace would he be a party to the violation of that pledge, with out the consent of the House 01 Commons.—(Hear, hear.) At the same time it was right the House should be mindful of how the Commissioners stood in regard to this matter. The engagement which was entered into with Messrs. Fox and Henderson as to the taking down of the palace presented two alter natives. It was, is the first Rlace, agreed to pay a certain sum for the use of the building far a certain time; and that it should then be taken down; but, if it should bo finally resolved to retain the building by the Commis sioners, it was then agreed that they should purchase pay, for the use of the building about it by They had paid, or purchased, they the payment of a further sum. together 190,0001. had engaged to en gagedl 2 0 , ee t e o l. ; p a a y n d 7, 0 , i o f ()toile more, building makingw r e It was also agreed that:unless the Commissioners gave notice to Messrs. Fox and Henderson for the removal of the palace before a certain day they should be bound to purchase it, so that even if the building were to stand they would be obliged to give that notice, unless those gentlemen were ready to release them from that obliga tion. The Commissioners were, in fact, bound to pull down the Crystal Palace, unless the House interfered to prevent it. The whole question was before the House, and he would not give an opinion on the subject one way or the other. Every Member was perfectly competent to form a judgment upon it, and it was pre - emin e nt l y the duty of the House to decide the question. He should not vote on the motion, but wait and see what decision the House came to. Sir R. INGLIS, differing entirely as he did from the feelings expressed by his Ron. and Gallant Friend (Cd. Sibthorp) on this subject, nevertheless concurred with him in the conclusion at which he had arrived, namely, that the House was not at liberty to alter the contract into which the Commissioners had catered wi[h regard to the removal of the building from Hyde•park. He agreed with his Right Hon. Friend (Hr. Labouehere) in all that ho had said as to the bzinefits which had already resulted from the Exhibition. And when they acknow ledged those results, it behoved them not to be proud, but thankful that there had been communicated to a larger mass of their fellow-creatures than bad ever be tore been congregated trgether more rational, gent, and bem.ficial pleasure than had b..en ever before enjoyed. H e di d not hesitate to confess that he was one et thoselast year, though he did net prognosticate evil, did in his secret mind anticipate almost all the evils which ethers openly aoretold. Thank Go.„i! he could now bear his testimony to the truth of all OW his Right Hon. Friend had stated as to the good conduct of the LONDON, people of England, and of their friends and allies, whom ' they had welcomed. Although he did not undervalue the good conduct of the police, he believed that if it had not been from the higher principles which animated the great masses that had been brought together in the Crystal Palace, ten tim-s the amount of police would not have been sufficient to maintain order.— (Hear, hear.) Further, he could not but ecknowle.ige the great obligation the country owed to the prescient sagacity of the illustrious Prince who devised the plan, and who had successfully carried it out, notwithstanding the lukewarm support of many, and the ill-concealed aversion of others,—(Cheers.) That illustrious Prince foresaw, not only the immediate pleasure which his con ception would contribute to his fi llow-subjects, but also the great ultimate and Listing benefits which would re sult from it. Those benefits, ho (Sir R. Inglis) appre hended, would not be of a limited or of a temporary na ture; but, if the building were destined to fall to-morrow those benefits would be felt for many generations to come. It was, indeed, a peace congress, in which were brought together those who were formerly regarded as natural enemies, and who, without the sacrifice of prin ciple, and without any difference of opinion, had drunk at the same spring, and all of whom, he hoped, were equally thankful for the pleasure they had been per mitted to enjoy, —(Hear, hear.) No one could have *visited the Exhibition without experiencing a joy he had never felt before at beholding so many happy faces brought together.—(Hear, hear.) If he differed from his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Labouchere) in any part of his address, it was that in which he withdrew himself from all responsibility as a Minister of the Crown. The Ministers of the Crown, from their posi tion, ought to guide and govern the House. But he did not consider the question to be whether the preservation of the Crystal Palace or the erection of a now one woul 4 or not be for the best interests of the country. He felt that he was not at liberty to take into contideration any benefit that might result from the continuance of the building. To him it was simply a question of contract, end more especially with those whose property had al ready been deteriorated to a great extent by the build ing, and would be much more deteriorated if the build ing should be made permanent. His Right lion. Friend wished to have an expression of the opinion of the House on that point ; bUt if that opinion were unanimous it could not effect the contract. Nothing but an Act of the Legislature could possibly get rid of the contract. He should, therefore, oppose the motion. Mr. EWART (who was very indistinctly heard) en tirely agreed with his Hon. Friend that the House could not alter the existing contract, but he forgot to state who the parties to the contract were, and that if they pleased they could dissolve the contract. As to the proprietors of the houses in the neighbourhood of the Crystal Palace, they were no parties to the contract, but were merely accidentally concerned in the matter. He thought it a most important thing that the building should be permanently maintained. It would serve both as a place for the promotion of science, and as a place of recreation, and for the preservation of health. It might be said that it was not built originally for a permanency, but Mr. Paxton had stated that he from the first con structed the building in such a manner that if it were desired afterwards to be permanent it would remain so; and he also stated that he from the beginning contem plated its conversion into a winter garden. In supporting the motion, he believed he should express not only the opinions of his own constituents, but of the great ma jority of the people of this country. Mr. MACGREGOR said he had built a house in the neighbourhood of the park solely for the benefit of the retirement which it afforded, his wife having been for several years in such a state of health as prevented her from mixing in society. The building, therefore, had been to him a source of great incon venience, as well as to many of his neighbours; but when he considered what was taking place within that palace, when he looked at the gathering of the nations there, and when he looked at the wondrous productions there exhibited, he should consider himself exceedingly , selfish if he were to oppose his own immediate conve nience to that great work of civilization.—(Cheers.) As to the continuance of the palace in its present situation he should give no opinion further than that he thought they would commit a very rash act if they decided upon its immediate abolition. He had doubts of its success as a winter garden, but they might make it a mti.eum. Colonel THOMPSON would suggest as one reason for the preservation of the building that a large portion of the working people of this country would be very glad to see it kept up in perpetuity. The Exhibition bad formed an opportunity to all nations, with the moat harmless and honest rivalry, to see what conveniences of life could be procured for them by exchanging their own productions for the productions of foreigners with greater advantage than if they made them within their own doors. He believed that class of the people would be happy to see the palace applied triennially or septen nially to a purpose similar to that to which it was at present devoted. For that reason its demolition ought, at all events, to be postponed for the present. Mr. GOULBURN, after observing that on many ac counts he might be favourable to the motion now before the House, said that when he considered that no less a principle than the maintenance of perfect good faith with the parties concerned in these transactions was in volved in the question they were then discussing, he felt bound to oppose the proposition for an address to the Crown on this subject. He put it to Hen. Gentlemen, would the building ever have been erected—would the public have consented to an encroachment on 20 acres of Hyde-park, if they had not received a distinct assurance that when the object of the building was answered it should be puiicd down and the park be restored to the people as a place of health and recreation? Nothing could warrant a departure from that arrangement. He would not refer to the strict provisions of the contract, but to the general understanding which took place be tween the Hence and the country. But, even if the building should be retained, Honourable Gentlemen were not agreed among themselves as to the pur poses to which it should be applied. If, as some suggested, it were to be used as a place of re creation for the benefit of Belgravia, or as the scene where ladies' clubs should assemble—(Laughter)—what would be the consequence? Would not the people of Tyburnia demand a similar portion of the park to bo appropriated for their recreation also? The immense annual expense also which the permanent maintenance of the building would impose on the country was de serving of consideration. They must have an extensive number of keepers, whether the building were used as a garden of plants, as a museum, as a ladies' club, or as a new Tattersall's. They were told that public feeling was iu favour of the continuance of the Crystal Palace, but where were the petitions? One would have natu rally supposed they would have poured in from the me tropolis, but whence had the petitions actually come? From Glasgow, Falkirk, and Stirling, in Scotland, and from Falmouth and Exeter, in England, while from London there had scarcely been any. He, for one, had always viewed with jealousy any encroachment upon what might be called the lungs of the metropolis; and for that and other reasons he was decidedly opposed to the present motion. Mr. WAKLEY observed that the Right Hon. Gen tleman seemed surprised that no petition had come from the metropolis in favour of retaining the Crystal Palace. Why, the mass of the population of London never for one ext moment raordina considered ryamind tha asto t there was desire st o its d a e n s y t r b u e c i t n i g o n . of solt impossib leeach t a h a t buildingi oo ul d . e n The t e r into g t h h t e H h e o a n d . o w f a m s a t h n o t u o g d h e t Gentleman was afraid that the public would sustain a great injury from the appropriation of twenty acres of Hyde-park; but, if he would take an unprejudiced view of the question, be would see that that appropriation would bo a great gain to all classes. It was not in tended to devote the institution to any particular class, but to open it to all classes during a portion of the year, without any charge. With regard to the cost, no appli cation would be made to the Government for money to sustain the building; on the contrary, Mr. Paxton had stated that a party was already willing] to take a lease of the structure for twenty-one years, if permitted to do so; and to guarantee the keeping up of the palace. It was a marvellous thing to him to observe that two Hon. Gentlemen out of the three who had opposed the motion were Members for the two Universi ties, when the object contemplated by the motion was in a great measure to devote an institution to objects of which one would suppose those Hon. Members ought to be the most prominent advocates. But, between whom did the contract itself exist? Why, between the public arid itself.—(No, no.) Messrs. Fox and Henderson had signiiied their readiness to accept a notice in the month of May next instead of in September, provided they should be placed in the same position as if the notice had been given at the period first agreed upon. The point, therefore, was disposed of. He could not conceive how any man could contemplate the destruction of such an establishment otherwise than with feelings of pain. The institution was connected with the noblest associations which could engage the mind of man. The original con ception was a grand one; it embraced the universe; and they had absolutely seen its effects manifested in every quarter of the globe. He might be wrong, but it was his conviction that if they determined to destroy the Crystal Palace, the labouring men of London would unanimously resolve not to lay their hands upon it. After speaking of the sanitary advantages which would be derived from the conversion of the building into a winter garden, the Hon. Member adverted to the allegation that the pro perty in the neighbourhood of the park had been dete riorated by the erection of the palace, and said he cone sidered that a cunning trick on the part of the owners with a view to urge a claim for compensation. Would those persons sell their property after the palace should have become permanent at the same price for which they would have disposed of it before the palace was built? But the same plea used to be urged with regard to pro perty near which railway stations were constructed, and yet what was the fact? Why, that property in those localities had increased more than fourfold. He could not ask. the House to come to a unanimous vote, because three gentlemen had spoken against the motion, and they would certainly be objects of great curiosity at some future day — (Laughter) —but he hoped the House would, with the exception of those three gentlemen, support the present motion, which he believed met with the hearty approval of forty-nine out of fifty of the inhabitants of London. Mr. BANKES was not for the destruction of the building. nor was he for its continuance on its present bite, as that would be a violation of public faith. But if there was a great desire for the establishment of a winter garden in the metropolis, the Hon. Member (Mr. Wak ley) vial the propoaer of a new park in Finsbury, and thither the Crystal Palace might be transferred. Mr. WAK LEY—I should be delighted. Mr. BANKES would be most happy to vote with the Hon. Member it' such was the proposition. The Hon. Gentleman was the advocate of the interests of the la bouring classei, and if the Crystal Palace was removed from Ilyde•pttrk to Finsbury-Park the labouring classes would be employe3, the experiment of a winter garden would he triad, and public faith would be kept.—(Hear, hqar.) It was not a question of Fox and Henderson— WEDNESDAI EVENING, it was a question of those residing opposite that part of the park. He (Mr. Bankes) cared not whether it was my Lord Campbell on one side of the Sarpentineor Mrs. Hicks on the other, he was opposed to every sacrifice of faith with any individual. He asked the Hon. Member for Finsbury whether he believed the consent of the two Houses of Parliament could have been obtained for this great project, if it had not been understood that the in terference with Hyde-park would be only for a limited period.—(Hear, hear.) If he co u ld no t an swer that question, as he (Mr. Banke.9 believed he could not an swer it, negatively, whatever might be the wish for the retention of the building, it ought to be removed at the stipulated time.—(Bear.) Lord SEYMOUR thought it far more important to keep public faith than to affirm the motion before the House. It must be remembered that when this subject was under consideration and discussion ire this House, and there was great opposition, the First Minister of the Crown laid on the table a memorandum from the Com miseioners of the Exhibition, which gave their repeated assurance that the building was not intended for a per manency, but would he entirely removed immediately after the closing of the Exhibition.—(Hear, bear.) That being the pledge, he did not see how it could be violated. The Hon. Member for Finsbury argued that all the in habitants of the metropolis would have petitioued, if they had believed that the building was to be rem . ° red. That argument was not very complimentary to th Commis• sioners of the Exhibition. They had given ti leir solemn assurance that it would be removed; the Grovernment had given their solemn assurance that it would be re moved; and every Member of the House lead equally declared that it would be removed; yet the :aon. Mem ber for Finsbury said the inhabitants did not believe one word of it.— (Hear, hear.) The House shoed show the inhabitants that words were not so lightly snaken, and that public faith would be kept.—(Hear, heare) Mr. C. VILLIERS had shared, to a great extent, in the apprehensions that the Exhibition would not suc ceed, and it was upon tee general prevalence of those apprehensions that it was understood the building would be only temporary. Those apprehensions NA been dis. appointed, and now it was proposed to make the experi ment of a winter garden, to see whether the expectations of those who had brought about the agreeable disap pointment of every apprehension would be nand. It was not a motion to perpetuate the building, but to re tain it for four or five months longer, and the feelings of opposition were much changed, because during; those four or five months that part of Hyde-park would tea more in jured by pulling it down than by allowing it; to remain. —(Hear, hear.) There was a fair opportunity for making the experiment, and it seemed rather ungra cious and injudicious, considering the feeling of the people, to destroy and demolish the building at the exact moment at which it was stipulated it should be destroyed.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. CLAY was surprised that one eccentric argu ment of the Hon. Member for the University of Cam bridge had not heen noticed. The Hon. Member said, " If the winter garden would give an advantage to Bel gravia, Tyburnia would put in her claim for the same thing." There might be a question whethe r a according to the old adage, they might not have too mu ch of a good thing; but if the Hon. Gentleman thought Tyburnia would be so desirous to have a winter garden, how could he in the same breath tell them it would be a. bad thing for Belgravia?—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Cl ay) thought property in the neighbourhood would be anaezingly in creased by the maintenance of the Crystal Palace, and he asked the House to pause before voting for its imme diate demolition.—(Hear, hear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, if the object of the motion had been to express well de served gratitude to the illustrious personago who had originated the design of the Great Exhibithon—to the Commissioners who had executed that desiign—to the gentleman who had framed the plan,of the b u.ilding—or to the gentlemen who had executed the work- --he should have highly approved that object. No ex pression of opinion on the merits of those persons had alien from any Hon. Member, with the exception of they Hon. and Gallant Member (Colonel Sibthorp), with Welch he did not cordially concur. But he thought much had been said beside the real question. The Hon. Bn [amber for Finsbury had indulged in a warm eulogium o a the tem ple of peace, in which had been united all the, nations of the earth. No one could admire more tha n he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) did the Exhiteition of it self; and he believed the displaying to the g:Eize of the world a multitude of wonders never before .collected in one place, would greatly promote good fr 'cling with other countries. But if that was to be the o bject of re taininr, the Crystal Palace, it could not be effected in the way proposed.—(Cries of " Hear , hear.") The Honourable Member for Wolverhampton said. ~ .D h e e let us try the experiment of a winter ga rd e n ." B at i the House must take into consider letion the m asse ß n y tinf tj g sato terms proposal oun t of expense of the contract. the Commissioners could hie come par chasers a , they ep w se oul w d hich' sanction, by chasers of the building on payment of 70,0001. They must be prepared to take on themselves the p ayment of that 70,0001. in the first instance. Wheth. eV the Com missioners would feel justified in purchasing the palace, and presenting it to the nation, was another smatter. It seemed to him that at present, consistently' with what was before the House, the Commissioners :mild do no such thing. Therefore they must consider they were authorising the expenditure of 70,0001. in tie e purchase of the building. He would not state any preibable sum, but he was quite sure no one would contradict. him when he said that to put it in a condition for a wi n ter garden would require a considerable outlay, and he apprehended no one imagined that it could be maint 'Lined per manently without a considerable annual cost. This only referred to the building as it stood. its a win ter garden considerable expense must be ii warred to pat it in a state to afford the country tile slightest opportunity of judging whether they would like it or not. He did not suppose his Honourclele Friend thought that empty walls would enable th B public to judge whether they would like it or not as a winter garden. If it was to be a winter garden al3 scientific purposes must be defeated, and the views of! the Hon. Member who brought forward the motion di d not seem very consonant with those of the Honourablio Member for Finsbury— Mr. WAKLEY—A winter garden! The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUI4IR entirely concurred with his Right Hon. Friend that it was ob viously and admittedly constructed for a . ;te mpor ;te mporary purpose, and the most solemn pl e d ge g i ven theft, should be taken down. Even thi s sess i on hi s N o bl e lriend had said he considered the Government was boucnd to have it taken down, unless th e y were re li eve d by the universal expression of public opi n i on . H e h a d t h oug ht it right to state to the House th e amount of pu bli c e xpenditure that would be incurred, that Hon. Members might not give their votes in ignorance of what they w ere about to do. As a member of the Government, he had re frained from expressing any opinion, and he should give no vote on the subject.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HEADLAM denied that the House was pledged to the destruction of the Crystal Palace. He denied the power of the Government to fetter the House, and even if they had the power, he denied that they head done so. They were now to say whether the building should be retained, and he protested against any fancied engage ment precluding their giving the metropolis the advan tages of a winter garden. There was no danger of any expense fal li ng on the E xc h equer, and he b el i eve d t h e public would he greatly disappointed if the building was removed. Mr. GEAC I-1 supported the motion for the retention of the Crystal Palace, which he conceived was calculated to be a permanent building. With the exception of paint ing, the expense of keeping it in repair would not be considerable. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion ... 75 Against it ... • 47 Majority VAN DIEMEN'S LAND▪ . Mr. ANSTEY called the attention of the House to the petition of the native-born colonists of Van Diemen's Land, presented on Monday, the 16th day of June last, for the purpose of moving that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that transportation to Van Diemen's Land may finally cease. It was moved that the House be counted, and only twenty-seven Members being present, the House stood adjourned. Mr. SCSOLEFIELD paired for hearing the Greenwich electors by counsel with Mr. BuxbilLIDGE against. COURT CIRCULAR. OSBORNE, TUESDAY, The Queen, the Prince, and the Royal Family took their usual walks and drives in the neighbourhood of Osborne, yesterday. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent took a car riage airing, attended by Lady Augusta Bruce. The Hon. Colonel and Mrs. Phipps, and M. Becker, had the honour of dining with her Majesty and his Royal Highness. The Princess Augusta of Saxe Coburg Gotha arrived in town yesterday, from Esher, and in the evening took her departure for Ostend. A meeting of the Royal Commission for the promo tion of the Exhibition of the Works of Industry of a ll Nations was held on Saturday, at the Exhibition in Hyde-park, at half-past one o'clock. The Commissioners present were Earl Granville, the Right Hon. William E. Gladstone, Sir Richard West macott, Mr. Cobden, M.P., Mr. Cubitt, Mr. T. F. Gib son, Mr. John Shepherd, and Mr.illopkins, President of the Geological Society. Mr. Scott Russell and Mr. Edgar Bowring, Secretaries to the Royal Commission, attended. Lieut.-Colonel Reid (Chairman), Mr. Henry Cole, and Mr. C. Wentworth Dilke, of the Executive Com mittee, were present. Dr. Lyon Playfair and Colonel Lloyd, Special Com. missioners, were also present. GooDwooD Cur.—One of the cups to be run for at the present Goodwood Races is designed by Baron Mar chetti, and manufactured by Mr. Hancock, ot Bruton -street, Bond-street. The subject is of a striking character. I t re presents the last struggle of Lord Francis Villiers, a noble man who fought on the Royal side, with the Parliamentary troops, when he fell overpowered by numbers. The story is told by Lord Clarendon in his History of the Rebellion, who thus describes the incident In the confusion the Lord Francis Villiers, a youth of rare beauty and comeliness of person, endeavouring to make resistance, was unfortunately killed in a lane between Kiagston and Southbyton (Surbi ton) Common. The young lord having had his horse killed under him, turned his back upon an old oak tree in the hedge, on the east side ot the lane, and fought most va liantly with half a dozen assailants—two of wh om h e h a d killed, when a third coming up on the other s id e o f t h e hedge killed him with a dagger. This happened between six and seven of the clock in the evening of th e 7 t h o f J u l y, 1648." The composition is distinguished by elegance, bold ness, and freedom. The figure of Lord Villiers is designed with spirit, and the horse, which appears just expiring, is modelled with great skill and accuracy. Aa a racing plate WA may be placed in the arot rank. U \I 30 1851. AM E RICAN NE WS. LIVERPOOL, TUESDAY EVENING. By th 3 United States mail steam-ship B1:!tic, Cap tab Comstock, which arrived off the Bar shortly alter four o'clock, we have received advices from New York to the 19th inst. She brings 700,000 dolls. in specie on freight. The United States mail steam-ship Pacific, Cap tain Nye, from Liverpool, was passed at 5 o'clock on the afternoon of the 19th, about 60 miles from New York. The royal mail steam-ship Conway had arrived at Kingston, and the Graat Western was looked for on the 13th from Vera Cruz. The screw steam-ship City of Glasgow left Phila delphia on the 17th l'or Liverpool, with 15,000 dolls. in specie. By the arrival of the Brother Jonathan at New York we have advices from San Francisco to the 14th of June. She had in the hands of the passengers 465,000 dolls. in gold dust. The steam-ship Califor nia, at Panama, had. specie on freight to the amount of 1,420,000 dolls. The Isthmus was generally healthy. assuming a habitable San Francisco was rapidly condition. Lynch. law was in operation to a g great extent. Terence Bellew APlNlanus one of the Irish convicts, succeeded in escapin from Launceston, Australia, and arrived in San Francisco on the sth, about the same time Smith O'B r i en, O'Donoghue, and Doherty attempted to escape. The sum of 6001. had bean put in the hands of an English man to purchase a brig, which was done, and a ft er landing and clearing at the Custom-house a concerted signal was to be given, when a boat was to be sent on shore from the brig. The Government officers, however, were informed of the project during th e day, and as soon as the signal was given for the boat the convicts were secured by the officers and carried back. The Indians being very troublesome in the southern section of the State, crime was fearfully on the increase, so much so that volunteer committees of citizens had been formed for protection. Reports from the " placers" were generally favourable ; agri cultural prospects are good. The market reports state that since the departure of the previous mail a general stagnation in business has been experienced, prices having generally declined ; large quantities of goods had been forced on the market. The prospects for the future were not encouraging. Such was the unsettled state of affairs consequent upon the fire, no regular rate of exchange could b 3 stated. From Kingston, Jamaica, we have advices to the 11th instant. Several vessels were loaded for England, amongst them several foreign ones. A large quantity of sugar would be shipped this season. Business was dull. We have Porto Rico advices to the 3d inst. Sugar was scarce, owing to the heavy rains. At New York the demand for money had been active, but without producing any effect upon the market. The exportation of specie for the week had been upwards of two million dollars. Exchange was without alteration. Sterling was 10+ to 10g. The Independence, of London, had 122,000 dolls. of specie on freight. The cotton market had been exceedingly depressed throughout the week, closing without spirit at decline on the low grades, and lc. to Vic. on the better. Sales for the week, 7,100 bales. The dry goods trade was dull. The flour market had a downward tendency. The iron market was steady. No particular alterations had occurred in tobacco. There was little doing in freights to Liverpool. Cotton was taken at d, to 5-32 d.; dead weight, 15s. To London, oil cake at 2s. 3d. To Glasgow, oil at 255. A vessel was loading with deals, for London, at 4/. 4s. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. Arrived at New York—E. Bulkeley and Henry Clay, from Liverpool; Sir Robert Peel, from London; Primus, from Galway; Duncan Ritchie, from Tralee; Statesman, from Havre; and Howard, from Hamburgh. Arrived at Philadelphia—Tuscarora, from Liverpool. Arrived at Charleston—Margaret and Nomine, from Liverpool. Arrived at Mobile—Stirlingahire, from Newport. Ar rived at San Francisco—Princess Royal, Abyssinia, and John Brown, from London; Ann, from Havre; Alcyone, from Marseilles; Malbra an Antoinette, from Bordeaux; and British ships Java, Cadet, Ark, Martha, and Alert, from Now South Wales; and steam-ship Conside, from Havre. Arrived at Newbury Port—Latimer, from New port, Wales. Arrived at Portland—Caledonia, from Londonderry. Arrived at Halifax—Rambler, from New port for New York, with loss of masts. NEW YORK, JULY 19.—The British barque Royal Mint, from Dundee for Quebec, was fallen in with on the 21st ult. in a sinking condition by the Howard (ar rived), which vessel took off the captain and crew. The Caledonia, Brander, from New Orleans, arrived here, re ports that on the sth inst., in lat. 25, long. 84,she picked up a boat containing six men belonginn• to the barque Mary Ann, of Sunderland, from New Orleans, tor Liver pool, which vessel was abandoned in a sicking state. The captain, officers, and remainder of the crew left in the lung-boat, and parted company in the night, and were not afterwards seen. PARLIAMENTARY 1 .HVISIONS (From Iho Vokt :Ind Froceedings of :e ..house of Commons, TUESDAY, JULY 5 :9. lIOPS. Motion made, and Question proper Sed, " That the Excise duty on hops is impolitic and unjust, and ought to be re pealed at an early period :" - Amendine. at proposed, to leave out from the word " That to the end of the Question, in order to add the words " on any reduction of Excise duty on hops taking place, it is expedient to reduce the E xc i se duty on British hops, and the euitonts duty on foreign h ops, by one penny per pound weight each, together with the 5 per cent. additional duty thereon granted by the Act 3 Vic., c. 17," instead thereof— Question proposed, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question :" Amendment by leave withdrawn :--Main Question put. The louse divided MINORITY—AYE! I, 30. Adderley, C. B. Fox, W. J. Stanford, J. F. Alcock, Thomas Goold, Wyndham Thompson, George Anstey, T. C. Dallewell, E. G. Tyrell, Sir J. Barrow, W. IL Holland, Robert Verner, Sir W. Bass, M. T. Johnstone, James Walmsley, Sir J. Bremridge, Richard Knox, Colonel Williams, T. P. Bright, John Lushington, Charles Willyams, H. Child, smith Mullings, J. R. Young, G. F. Cobden, Richard Pechell, Sir G. TELLERS. Curteis, H. M. Salwey, Colonel. Frewen, C. H. Dick, Quintin Seymour, H. D. Fuller, A. E. MAJORITY-NOES, .59. Armstrong, R. B. Egerton, W. T. Td`Grcgor, John Bagshaw, John Ellis, John Matheson, Colonel Baines, M. T. Elliot, John E. Mitaell, T. A. Baring, Sir F. Evans, J. Morris, David Bell, Jacob Evelyn, William J. Parker, John Bellew, R. M. E wart, William Pusey, P. Berkeley, Admiral Forster, Matthew Reid, Colonel Birch, Sir Thomas Goulburn, Henry Richards, Richard Boyle, Colonel Graham, Sir J. Sandars, George Brotherton, J. Grosvenor, Earl Seymour, Lord Bunhury, Edward Hanmer, Sir J. Stuart, Lord J. Choi"mien Sir M. Hawes, Benj. Stuart, Henry Clay, James Heald, James Thompson, Colonel Cockburn, Sir A. Ileywood, James Thornely, Thomas Colebrooke, Sir T. Ilindley, C. Wilson, James Cowper, W. F. Hodges, T. L. Wood, Sir W. P. Craig, Sir W. G. Hudson, G. Denison, Edmund Inglis, Sir R. TELLERS. Denison, J. E. Labouchere, Henry Hayter, W. G. Dr n:7111, George Langston, J. H. Lewis, George C. Dtineots, Sir D. EXHIBITION OF 1851. M. Lion made, and Question put, " That an humble addre;'L be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to direct, in such manner as to her may seem fit, that the Crystal Palace be preserved until the Ist May next, with a view to determine if that novel structure, or any portion of it, can be adapted to pur poses of public utility and recreation." The Llouse di vided: MAJORITY-AYES, 75. Adderley, C. B. Egerton, W. T. Montt, George Alccck, Thomas Ellis, John Morris, David Anstey, T. C. Evans, John O'Brien, J. Bagshaw, John Evelyn, W. J. Pilkington, James Barrow, W. H. Ewart, William Pinney, William Bass, M. T. Forster, Matthew Rich, Henry Bell, Jacob Fox, W. J. Bumbold, C. E. Bellew, R. M. Fuller, A. E. Saiwey, Colonel Blackstone, W. S. Geach, Charles Sandars, George Booth, Sir R. G. Grosvenor, Earl Scobell, Captain Bright, John Hallewell, E. G. Scrope, G. P. Brocklehurst, John Headlam, T. E. Smith, John B. Brutherton, J. Heathcoat, John Stanford, J. F. Bunbury, E. H. Henry, Alexander Tennent, R. J. Buxton, Sir E. Hindley, Charles Thompson, Colonel Carter, J. B. Holland, Robert Thompson, George Chaplin, W. J. Hudson, G. Thornely, T. Child, Smith Johnstone, James Villiers, Charles Clay, James Kershaw, James Walmsley, Sir J. Clay, Sir W. Knight, F. W. Watkins, Colonel Colebrooke, Sir T. Knox, W. S. Willcox, Brodie Cowper, W. F. Langston, J. H. Williams, W. Craig, Sir W. G. M'Gregor, John Wilson, James Dawes, Edward Mahon, O'Gorman TELLERS. Duncan, George Matheson, Colonel Heywood, James Ebrington, Lord Maxwell, J. P. Wakley, T. MINORITY-NOES, 47. Armstrong, R. B. Fox, S. L. O'Brien, Sir Lucius Bankes, G. French, F. Parker, John Bouverie, E. P. Goulbuni, Henry Reid, Colonel Boyle, Colonel Greene, John Richards. Richard Bramston, T. W. Hanmer, Sir J. Seymour, Lord Clements, CharleS Hayter, W. G. Sibthorp, Colonel Cocks, T. S. Hodges, T. L. Spooner, Richard Coles, H. B. Inglis, Sir R. H. Stuart, Lord J. Cubitt, William Jocelyn, Viscount Stuart, John Dawson, T. V. Knox, Colonel Wigram, Loftus Denison, J. E. Lennard, T.B. Wood, Sir W. P. Dick, Quintin Lewis, G. C. Wynn, H. W. Douro, Marquis of Lushington, C. Young, G. F. Dundas, Sir David Martin, J. ~ , Edwards, H. Masterman, J. TELLERS. Elliot, J. E. Melgund, Viscount Baring, Henry E. Estcourt, J. B. Mailings, J. R. Grey, R. W. TO THE SECRETARY OF THE BRADFORD REFORM ASSOCIATION. (EVERY MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY.) Sir,—On Monday the 28th, the chances of your im proving your postal communications were cut down by the defeat of the Carriage of Mails by Railways Bill, by a majority of 56 to 53. The Government attempted no unfair invasion of railway property for the benefit of the community; but the point the railway representatives stood upon was simply this, "If it were a private individual we would use our power to make him pay, and we will make you." Government, in the name of the community, proffered payment according to existing rates for everything that was carried for the public; but the stag fraternity re plied "No; you will want a man to put things down and take things up at the stations stopped at, and this we will not allow either to you or to an individual." These are the same classes that some time since set up a claim, to open any man's parcel to see if there were more par cell than one inside. And such is the traditional reve rence paid to every kind of job in England, that there is reason to apprehend they to some extent carried their point. Such are the consequences of the legislature and the community making a something like Frankenstein's man, which ends by setting its makers at defiance. On Tuesday a motion to declare the impolicy of the tax on Hops. The visible object of the mass of the supporters, was to maintain the virtual prohibition of foreign hops, and cease to pay the tax on home. Wheu there is a chance of inducing the Government to take off both the tax and the prohibition, will be time enough to join the outcry against the tax. The motion was negatived by 59 to 30. On the same evening was the motion by the Member for North Lancashire for an Address to defer the destruction of the Crystal Palace till May, for the sake of determining in the interval its final destina tion. The grand object and real utility of the building in Hyde-Park, has no where been distinctly stated; but you at Bradford will probably comprehend, that it is in truth a universal market or place of resort, where all nations may compare and determine what are the ob jects of utility or comfort which they can obtain on better terms by giving some of the products of their own country in exchange, than by trying to make them at home. You at Bradford may represent the party in terested in this commerce is your own country; and there is a similar party in every country, which it is the object of the dunces who call themselves Protectors of Native Industry to put down. Your party demands nothing, but not to be put down to serve other people; and their ground for this claim is, that if they are put down, the consequence is a loss to the consumers equal to the difference of price, without an atom of gain of any kind to the indust r i ous i n t h e aggregate. The fraud is simply in holding out, that you at Bradford are not in dustry. The plot is fo r t rea di ng out your industry to divide it among rival shops, and trying to make the com munity consent to th e l oss wh i ch follows, by the quibble of calling it protection to native industry. The thieves and house-breakers might as well call themselves native industry, and expect people to forget that those they rob are natives too. If this is admitted to be the object of the Exhibition in the Crystal Palace, there would clearly be nothing un reasonable in wishing to repeat it triennially or as the case might be; and in order to this, the Palace must be pre served for the present. The Government declared they would not vote; but made speeches against the motion. Notwithstanding which, the motion was finally carried by 75 against 47. Upun which hint, it is to be hoped the country will move in the way of petitioning, and not leave any peg on which to hang a doubt of its desires. I am, Sir, yours very sincerely, AN OLD REFORMER. London, July 30, 1851. THE GREAT EXHIBITION• TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir,--Permit me, through the medium of your journal, to direct the attention of the public to the Sunday per formances of the Executive Committee of the Exhibition, covered though they be by the impeccability of a Royal Commission. Signor Monti, a well-known Italian sculptor, resi dent in London, was one of those who contributed some groups of statuary to the great bazaar in Hyde-park, among which may be remarked two girls fishing—the daughters of an English gentleman—and the statue of a veiled nymph. The other day, on entering Mr. Hen neman's establishment, in Regent-street, Signor Monti discovered a photograph of one of these statues, which had been taken entirely without his knowledge ,or per mission; and he was still more surprised on learning that the counterproof had been carried off to Paris, where, by this time, his statue may be already pirated in clay or porcelain by some of those persons who are to be distinguished from artists as " art manufacturers." Last Friday week Mr. Tudor purchased the veiled nymph, then apparently perfect and intact. On the Monday fol lowing, however, three of the fingers of the nymph were found broken off; and Signor Monti, on inquiring among the police, learned that friends of the Executive Com mittee, who are, it appears, admitted gratis on Sunday in considerable numbers, had removed the statue from its place on that day for the purpose of taking a photo graph of it, without Signor Monti's knowledge or per mission; and it was during this operation that the fingers were broken off or separated from the statue, which has thus led to an exposure. Mr. Tudor has now refused to take the statue; and, although the Royal Commissioners may give compensa tion for the loss of the 2001., I consider it my duty as an Englishman to make known these facts, and to bring public opinion to bear upon such unjustifiable pro ceedings. It is asserted that the fingers had been already broken off and repaired; but that does not in the least affect the question at issue, which is, " whether the Executive Committce is to be allowed the special privilege of pirating the works of exhibitors without their express permission ?"—I am, Sir, &c., WILLIAM CONINGHASI. London, July 28. OPENING OF VICTORIA-STREET, WESTMINSTER...-. It is now definitively arranged that the ceremony of opening Victoria-street, Westminster, shall take place o n F r id ay, the Ist of August, being the anniversary of the accession of the house of Hanover. The new street, which extends from Westminster Abbey to Shaftesbury-te rrace, Pimliw, is about three-quarters of a mile in length, and fifty-four feet in width ; the carriage-way is macadamised, and is thirty three feet wide ; the trottoirs, or foot pavement, on either side, 10 1 4 feet wide ; the houses are all to be of a first class character, with architectural frontage. It will be one of the finest greetgi ul the metropolis, NAVAL INTELLIGENCE: Rear-Admiral-Superintendent Prescott, 6:IZ end the pay clerks did not complete the payment of the Trafal gar, 120, at Spithead, till about nine o'clock on Monday night, there having ben nearly 1,000 men to be paid advance. Commander John Fisher (1814), late principal har bour-master of the port of London, died on the 22d inst., in the 70th 5 ear of his age. Captain A. Forbes took up his commission at Chat ham, on Monday, and hoisted the pendant on board the Calypso, 18, and the vessel was taken into dock to be coppered up to her load draught, and to clean the bot tom, &c. It is expected that she will be manned by the general service men at the ports immediately. The following additional appointments have been made to her:— Lieutenant—C. J. Balfour (1846). Master—R. H. Warren (1847). Second Master—Charles A. Smart (1848). Clerks—J. H. Sheriff and Richard Sainthill. Gunner—George Denham. Boatswain—Thomas Collins. Carpenter—Robert Baird. The following other appointments have been made:— Assistant Surgeon—William A. Turner, to the Styx steam-sloop, et Devonport. Assistant Engineer—Frederick W. Brown, to the Centaur. Gunner—Henry Davidson, acting, confirmed to the Waterwitch, 8, Sheerness, for coast of Africa. Hastings, 74, Captain C. J. Austen, arrived at Trin comalee from Madras in June last. The Commander in-Chief, Rear-Admiral Austen, C. 8., intends to pro ceed early in August to Singapore and China, in his flag- sh ip. Meander, 44, Captain the Hon. H. lieppel, having transferred her freight to the Sprightly steamer, at Portsmouth, sailed about nine P.N. for Chatham, on Monday. The freight was landed yesterday morning, and was conveyed in the afternoon by Messrs. Casher to London. _ _ _ Sprightly steam-tender was employed yesterday, taking out stores, &e., to the Trafalgar, which ship will sail to-day for the Mediterranean with the Oberon steamer. Waterwitch, 8, Commander Gardner, remains at Sheerness to adjust compasses and to be paid advance previous to sailing for her station. Wolverine, 12, Commander Falcon, arrived at St. He lena from her station on the Coast May 29, and remained June 1. PORTSMOUTH, TUESDAY.7Rear-Admiral Henderson, C. 8., K.H., the newly-appointed Commander-in-Chief on the south-east coast of America station, hoisted his flag (blue at the mizen) on board th e Bl onde receiving.. ship, at ten o'clock this morning, and at 10.15 it was hauled down and hoisted on board the Blenheim steam guard-ship, Captain W. 11. llenderson, C. 8., when the latter saluted the Port-Admiral with seventeen guns, which the Victory acknowledged with eleven. This ceremony was merely to enable the Rear-Admiral's pay to commence, as the flag was hauled down again alter the salute, and will not be rehoisted until the Centaur steam-frigate Captain Cannon, is ready to receive it. She is being expedited as much as possible, and was masted to-day. She is now in the hands of the riggers, fitting out. The Belvidera, 38, has had her jurymasts taken out to-day and been returned to ordinary, her masts being adapted to the Pique to carry her to Pembroke. The Southampton Indiaman sailed to-day for the East Indies. WooLwlca, JULY 29.—The number of foreigners who visited Woolwich Dockyard last week, with cards of ad mission from their respective legations, was 620, and some idea may be formed of the number of British sub jects who visited the dockyard in the course of the week when it is considered that the number returned as ad mitted on Friday amounted to 1,48 9. The Hempsyke, hired convict-ship, arrived at moor ings opposite the Royal Arsenal on Saturday last, and after taking in some stores for Malta, her ultimate des tination, she will take on board eleven convicts from the Justitia convict ship at Woolwich. The others will be taken on board at Portsmouth and Portland, for con veyance to Gibraltar, where they will be employed on the works in progress of construction for strengthening that important military station. 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Never forget that it is far easier and better to prevent than cure. Sold by Messrs. Barclay and Sons, Farringdon-street ; Edwards, St. Paul's Church -yard; Sutton and Co., Bow Church-yard; Sanger, 151, Oxford-street; and Hannay and Co., Oxford-street. The fatal collision with the Unionist Brickmakers at Manchester has been brought under the notice of Govern ment, and the Home Secretary has offered a reward of 1001, ort tilt conviction of the offenders. THE STOURBRID GE AND BROMSGROVE BANK FAILURE. BIRMINGHAM, MONDAY.—Tt)(% first proceediugs in. the matter ot the lesnkruptey of Messrs. Rufford land Wragge commeneed here to-day, before Mr. Comm is sioner Balguy. Messrs. Glyn and Co., the London bankers, were re raY'Oxford and; Wolverhampton of London Professor Ken uprceasyenatpepdeabryaiiMrc Mu ort l e Ruilway Company; Mr. Pangeter, of Stourbridge, and Mr. Deakin, of Wolverhampton, for various creditors; Messrs. Motterem, Knight, and Co., for the petitioning creditors. After some preliminary discussion, ..Mr. K n i g h t sa i d that he had placed proofs on the tiles of the court amounting to from 100,0001. to 110,0001., and if it wero necessary, they could tender proofs to the amount of 40,0001. iu addition ; i n th e se circumstances it appeared to him that it was the duty of the gentlemen who ap peared for other creditors, especially for . the Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampto n R a ilway, either to prov e up to this amo un t or t o re d uce t h e sum which he on be half of his clients had placed on the files. Mr. Kennedy persisted in claiming a right to exa mine all the pr oo f s ten d ere d , an d ultimately he suggested en adjournment; but the Learned' Commissioner de clined to accede to this. Another objection taken by Mr. Kennedy was that a creditor in one affidavit was de scribed us a man, and afterwards as a female; but the Commisaion.er overruled that also. Attention was next called to two claims, one on behalf Of a Miss Durant for 15,530/, and another on behalf of Miss Mary Durant for 15,1301. The objection to these by Mr. Ches;dre and Mr. T. Smith was that the original sums had been deposited many years ago, when a Mr. 13igga was in the bank with the elder Mr. Rufford, and before Mr. Wragge joined the firm, consequently inquiry was necessary relative to that proof. It was stated, in answer, by Mr. Whitmore, the offi cial ast,ignee, that the bank had regularly paid the in terest ou both sums at the rate of 4 per cent. ever since they had b een d epos i te d . Mr. Commissioner Balguy admitted proof of both debts; and then Mr. Elgin, on behalf of the Oxford, W . oryester, and Wolverhampton Railway Company, ap plied tor an adjournment, in order that there might be trneto consider, and appoint men of character and atanatug as assignees was much . ground f or further adjournment; upon The Learnee Commissio ner did not appear to thi n k e knight named as trade assignees Mr. Dea lkwhihenri,:hof Stourbrii;ge; Mi-. G. Blskeway and Mr. Downing, and Mr. 0. T. Wil liams, i l a s m o r 4 e o s f id L in u g n(o ne n a . r Stourb ridge ; Mr. Smith objected to the last- named, on the ground that he was clock in the banking-house o f M essrs. Glyn and Co., whose interests might be a n t agon i stic to those of the great body of creditors. Mr. Murray rejoined that Messrs. Glyn and Co. did not wish to mix up with the squabbles of solicitors about the choice of assignees; they were, however, de s i rous of making the most of the estate, and he thought that th e appointment of Messrs. Glyn and Co. would be most ad vantageous. Mr. Commissioner Balguy suggested that some other gentleman should be nominated in the place of Mr. Wila hams ; but this a pp o i n t men t b e i ng presse d, his Honour assented. It was subsequently stated by Mr. Knight that Messrs. Gly n and Co., were creditors for 25,000 L in running bills, besides the debts fur which they held good security. The gentlemen above named were then formally ap pointed trade assignees, and debts against the Stour bridge bank alone were proved for no less than 160,0001 PASSENGERS' LUGGAGE. LIVERPOOL COURT OF PASSAGE, JULY 23. WELCH V. THE LONDON AND NORTHWESTERN RAIL,- WAY COMPANY. This was an action brought by the plaintiff to recover the value of a package containing 181 b. of cigars, under the following circumstances:— The plaintiff drove to the railway station, and was too late for the train. One of the company's porters took his luggage into the yard, placed it on the plat form, and promised to " have an eye" to it until the next train started. When the plaintiff returned to go by the next train, he said that one of the packages he had left, that containing cigars, was missing. It was proved that th© value of the cigars was up wards of 71. odd; but there was conflicting evidence whether the package was ever delivered to the porter. The porter positively swore that he never saw it. It tilso came out, on cross-examination of the plaintiff's witnesses, that there was a depot set apart by the com pany for passengers' luggage, on payment of 2d., and that there was a notice up that the company would not be responsible for luggage left for the convenience of passengers unless placed in the depot. At the close of the plaintiff's case, Mr. JAMES, on behalf of the defendants, submitted that there was no case; that the special contract declared upon was not made out, and, if it had been, that the porter could not bind the company; and that in fact the plaintiff had never taken his ticket, and that there was no contract to carry either him or his luggage. Mr. ASPINALL, on behalf of the plaintiff, contended that he had made out a case, and quoted certain de cisions. The ASSESSOR said there was clearly no case; that the porter could not bind the company; that no ticket had ever bE , en taken; and that the contract was not made out. Plaintiff was nonsuited. Mr. ASPINALL said it was a shabby thing for the com pany to defend the action. . - Mr. JAMES said that the reason why the company had defended the action was, that the plaintiff had de manded 241., nearly four times the value of the cigars; and that it would never do fur the company to admit that their common porters could make special contracts on weir behalf. THE PARIS FETES. The programme of the fetes proposed to be given by the city of Paris in .celebration of the Exhibition of In. dustry of All Nations is definitively settled. M. Sallandrouze de Lamornaix, Commissary-General of France, has just returned from Paris, where he was summoned for the purpose of com bining the necessary arrangements for the in tended hospitality of our Parisian neighbours. He has since issued, in the name of the Prat de la Seine and the Municipal Council of Paris, upwards of 1,000 formal invitations to the Royal Commissioners, the Foreign Commissioners, the members of the various juries, the Executive and Special Commissioners, the mayors of the principal towns of the kingdom, the presi dents and secretaries of the leading scientific societies, and a large number of the nobility and of the distin guished patrons of science and art. On Friday the Commissary-General waited on the Lord Mayor with an especial invitation to him and to the Lady Mayoress, for whom a suite of apartments has been prepared at the Hotel de Ville by the Prefe't de Is Seine, whose guests they will be during the period of the fetes. It is understood that about 250 of those who have been most intimately and actively engaged in the direc tion of the Exhibition will have provided for their use a special train, leaving the London-bridge station on Friday morning, the Ist of August, at half-past it o'clock; a steamer will be in readiness at Folkestone to convey the party to Boulogne, and they will arrive at Paris at 7 o'clock the same evening. The other guests will find ample facility of travelling provided for them by the South-Eastern Railway Com pany, who have kindly promised to give every assistance in order that no difficulties may intervene to thwart the hospitable intentions of the Parisian municipality. The general scheme of the festivities is— On Saturday, August 2—A dinner to 500 visitors at the Hotel de Ville, to be followed by a concert, to which all the visitors will be invited, and at which the orchestra of the Conservatoire will perform. On Sunday, August 3—The National Museum and Palace of Versailles will be opened to the visitors, and the waterworks and fountain will be in full activity. On Monday, Aug. 4.—The President of the Republic will give a grand file at the Palace of St. Cloud. On Tuesday, Aug. s.—There will be a grand ball at the Hotel de Ville, for which it is said that 8,000 invi tations will be issued. On Wednesday, Aug. 6.—There will be a review and sham fight in the Champ de Mars, and in the evening Is grand representation at the Op era . It is understood that every ki n d o f f ac ility w ill be afforded for visiting all th a t i s cur i ous an d ister"t" ing at Paris and in the ne i g hb our h o od, both in public and private est a bli s h ments , an d it is believed that the city of P ar i s w ill no bly vindicate its well-known character for liberality and hospitality on this auspicious occasion, when the distinguished and scientific visitors may do much to cement the more intimate connexion between two nations whose mutual relations must be beneficial. In fact, following up the impression made by the Grand Exhibition of Industry o f all Nations, this visit to our Parisian neighbours m ay be made the real Peace Congress. following published by Messrs. Colbu.rn and o u u st gh-street , and may be hadof and ---- -- - Syria, ad Asia inte- C re o s . t , in l g 3, n G ew rea w t orkcs a are .Ibo rj ICATIONS%The all booksellers :-1. Right Years in Palestine, Minor, from 1842 to 1850, by F. A. 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