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a% 111., tir o Latittta- tg NOTTINGHAM RACES. (THIS DAY.) (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH•) Sweepstakes of 5 SJVS. each. Miss Norton filly ... ... ..• Shropshire Witch ... ... •.. Chesterfield Handicap. Julia Chief Justice Candlewick Grief Oxford Bi Cilcalator Cutler .. Egret I••• • • • Won by a neck. Scarborough Stake,. ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 - f tEctii*zDttion sus 01.-A4 1C E, Seven o' Clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS• - - The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool sack at Rye o'clock. The Earl of LONSDALE presented petitions from several places in favour of the; Ecclesiastical Titles As sumption Bill. Earl NELSON presented several petitions with a simi lar prayer. WREXHAM IMPROVEMENT BILL. Earl TALBOT moved the re-committal of this Bill, en account of he absence from the Committee of one Noble Lord who had been appointed to sit on that Com mittee. Lord CAMOYS opposed the motion. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE could see no ne cessity for re-committing the Bill. Earl TALBOT replied. The House divided, when there e ppeared — Contents ••• ••• 9 Non•contents ••• ••• '•• 34 Majority against the recommittal of the Bill ; ••• ;•• (LEFT sITTING,) -25 HOUSE OF COMMONS. The Sesexert took the Chair at a few minutes bee fore Four o'clock, at which time there was an unusually full attendance of Members. SCENE IN THE HOUSE. Immediately afterwards the House was about to pro ceed with the private businees on the paper, but before the first Bill had been disposed of Mr. Alderman Salo mons catered and took his seat beneath the Speaker's aellery a The SPEAKER observing this, and it yet wanting two or three minutes to four o'clock, said, " Members to be sworn will please to come to the table." Mr. Alderman SALOMONS than advanced to the table being introduced by Sir B. Hall and Mr. J. A. Smith: and the clerk at the table presented the Hon. Member with a boak, which, from what next recurred, would appear to be a copy of the New Testament. Aldermen SALOMONS, without accepting the proffered bock, said in a loud end firm voice, I demand to be sworn upon the Old Testament. The SPEAKER—WiII the Hon.—(Oh)—Member ray why he wishes to be sworn upon the Old Testament? Alderman SA.LeatONS—Beclusa Sir, I believe it to be most binding upon my conscience. The SPEAKER—The oaths, then, may be adminis tered so. The ceremony of swearing was accordingly proceeded with upon the Old Testament, the Hon. Member re peating all the words of the oaths except those in the oath of abjuration, " Upon the true faith of a Chris tian," and then reading from a paper, said, " I have now taken the oaths in the form and with the ceremonies that I declare to be binding on my conscience, in ac cordance with atat. I aid 2 Vice, cap. 105; I now de mand to subscribe the oath of abjuration, and to declare .to ray property qualification." The scene was ex citing to the last degree some Members roaring out at the pitch of their voices, " Withdraw, withdraw !" while others added to the babble of sounds by calling out for " Order, order!" or rising to go through a pen toinimic performance, as if they wished to address some thing to the Chair. The confusion, however, did not in any way daunt the Hon. Member for Greenwich, and he continued reading until he came to the close of the pa pt,rs, when, tossing a roll of parchment across the table, he slowly retired below the gangway, and seated himself upon oue of the trout row ot benches. The SPEAKER. then made an essay to speak, and something like order being at length obtained, he said " The Honourable Member has omitted certain words from the oaths, which is tantamount to not taking the oaths at all, and it A therefore my duty to tell him that he must withdraw." Alderman Salomons did not appear at all inclined to comply with dee request, hut soli maintained his seat, and the consequence was another scene of noise and con fusion wes enacted; the Members on the Opposition side of the House roaring and shouting again until they were nearly black in the face, to use a vulgar expression. The SPEAKER'S voice was again heard above the storm, and, as far as 7.e could catch his words, he said the Hun. Member must be aware that the Act pre scribes that no Honourable Member can sit in this House, or vote upon any question, unless he has taken and subscribed to the oaths pre scribed by law. Now the last of these oaths has not ben taken in the sense which the House under stands the Act—(Cheer;) —add I again repeat to the Hon. Member that it is my duty to direct him to with draw.—(Cheers.) Alderman SALOMONS seemingly at the request of his supporters near him then retired beyond the bar amidst the hoist( rows outburst of Opposition cheering. Sir B. HALL then rose and said he was requested by the Hon. Member for Greenwich, who had just presented himself at the table for the purpose of taking the oaths prescribed by the Act, and by the forms of the House, and who was prepared to take the oaths in a manner which in his opinion was the most binding on his conscience to declare to the Speaker and to tne House that the Honourable Mem ber had withdrawn from the seat which he lately , occupied—(Laughter and ironical cheers) —in de ference to the high authority of the Chair.—(Cheers.) But he was also instructed by the Honourable and Learned Member to state — Sir F. THESIGER rose to order.—(Cries of " Order, order," and "Den's be put down;" "G i on, go on.") I aPPreherd, continued the Hon. and Learned Member for Abingdon, that the worthy Alderman has not obeyed the order of the House by withdrawing.— (Hear, hear.) Il e i s at presen t s t a nding within the House, and I consider it my duty to call attention to that cireumstaece.—(Hear, hear.) [This of course gave rise to another exhibition of feel ing on the part of the Opposition, and again Hon. Mem bers ever and anon partially jumped up and motioned the n- and Learned Alderm an to withdraw, or indulged in strange gesticulations, as if they were addressing some angry observations to the Chair. Sir William Moles worth and Mr. J. A. Smith advanced to the worthy and dauntless Alderman and endeavoured to persuade him to quit the ilo ,, se ; but no, he would not do that; and at length the Sergeant-at-Arms cam to the rescue, and at his suggestion the Hon. Mem ber ;retired to one of the back seats under the Speaker's gall: ry usually appropriated to Peers.] Sir B. HALL then went on to say teat at the time he was interrupted by the Honourable and Learned Mem ber for Abingdon he was about to state that the was requested by the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Greenwich to declare to the House that his on ly o bj ect in taking the course he had adopted was to try the legal question of his right to sit for and represent Greenwich iu Parliament.—(Hear , hear.) It was, however, no t his intention or desire to tak e an y course which might be either displeasing or incon venient to Members ; aa d h e (Sir B. Hall) had, therefore , to ask a q uestion of the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the absenc e of the Noble Lord at the head ot the Govern.. meet which may facilitate the settlement of this disput e . — ( H ear, hear.) As he said before, the Hon. Member fur Gree nwich was on lanxious to try his r i g ht to s it in the Ho use, and in put himself in a order that t h e Hon. Member mi ght position to have the matt er tried in one of the legal trib u nals realm, he bad to ask the Right Hon. the Chance o ll f or the of in consequence the Exchequer whether, place, or, if that proceedings which bad now taken of the fficient, whether, if the Hen. Member came in and took his sea again, Government was hfor the recovery of th e prepared to institute an imme diate prosecution 3 gain penaltiPs provided by the Aim of Parliament?—(Cheers.) The CHANCELLOR spoke in a very indistinct the manner, EXCHEQUER who , was understood to s ay that in the absence of his Noble at the bend of the Government, heoe Friend who stood thought ceedingly desirable that the House should postpone it was ex this question.—(Hear, hear.) No doubt the Ho- DOUrable. Gentleman who had just left the House was very anxious that this matter should be speedily disp osed of, but, however, he submitted to the House whether it would not he beat to agree to a the short delay, and then have question brought forward and discussed in a proper iorm.—(Elear, hear.) It was a question of deep and serious importance, not on l y to the Honourable Gentleman himself, but to all parties, and he certainly did not feel himself competent to znawer tee question which the Hon. Baronet the Member for Mara letone had p ut to him.—(Hear, hear.) He would therefore suggest that no proceedings should be taken now, but that the question should :e"-Tiirbtte tWourned till Monday, a nd in the mean- Fe: went would take care to deliberate upon tire el . , nrwl look into the Acts of Parliament and a uln e on the point at issue, ad as to be in P9. 4 itataftlkilitat it before the House in a proper light. ,that in a observed • wette r of this im • al of his rae3P .ea • , no could be fairer than the pr o p o, ' l . - " cruriend, and for his part he had no objection etV I '45. THE SUN, to postpone the question until Monday, or any other day next week that might be more convenient to the Noble Lord at the head of the Government.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. T. DUNCOMBE wished to know what the ques tion was that was to be resumed on Monday.—(Hear, hear.) It occurred to him that there was no question before the House, and if that were so how could they adjourn the debate?—(Hear, hear.) Let somebody m ,Va something, and then on Monday the question might be taken up where it was left off. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said a question was put to him by the Hon. Baronet the Mem ber for Marylebone, and as he did not feel in a position to answer it, he suggested that it should be postponed till Monday. What he proposed now was, that nothing should take place at present, but that the question should stand over till Monday. Government being in full possession of what had taken place would come down then fully preplred to give the lion. Baronet fur Marylebone an answer one way or another. Sir F. THESIGER said if he understood there was a question for the House to decide he should be dis posed to concur in the suggestion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, but, like the Hon. Member for Finsbury, he felt great difficulty in understanding, from the Right Honourable Gentleman's statement, what the matter was which was to be discussed on Monday.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman had told the House that there were two questions to be decided—first, as to the seat; and secondly, as to instituting a prose cution for the purpose of trying the right of the Hon. Member for Greenwich to sit and vote in the House. Now, he had great difficulty in understanding what was the first question which the Right Hon. Gentleman proposed to take on Monday. There could be no doubt whatever that, according to the decision of the House, the Hon. Member, having refused to take the oath of abjuration, was totally incapable of taking his seat—(Cheers)—and, therefore, he apprehended that no question of that de scription could possibly arise. (Mr. Sergeant Murphy dissented.) Well, then, what was the question ? The Hon. and Learned Gentleman the Member for Cork said there was a grave doubt, but he was not in Parlia ment in the course of last session, and therefore was not aware that there was upon the journals a re solution of the House on a precisely similar erequestion.—(Hear, hear.) Then if these resolutions w vor th anything no question of that description was op en to them to discuss? Be hardly believed that the House was prepared in a following session to rescind a resolution agreed to after a long and anxious debate on th e subject—(Hear, hear)—and, accordingly, he thought there must be some other point which the Bight Honourable Gentleman the Chancellor cf the Exchequer proposed for consideration.— (Hear.) This 1 cry same question was fully discussed last year, when Mr. Baron Rothschild proposed to take his seat. The E'aron refused to take the oath of abjuration, and it wou Id be remembered that upon that refusal he im media'tely rose and moved that the Speaker do issue his es rit for the election of a .new Member fur the: CI ty. That motion was met by his Hon. Friend the then Attorney-General, and now Master of the Rolls, by a statement that a refusal to take the oaths did not vacate the seat, but only rendered the Member liable to certain penalties. He (Sir Frederick Thesi ieer) thought his Honourable and Learned Friend was mistaken. He had carefully considered the su eject since, and he bad come to the conclusion that in lays. a refusal to take the oaths vacated the seat. Tae wi is, therefore, extremely desirous to know precisely what eves the question which was to be raised en Monday. Mr. B. OSBORNE rose to order. He wished to know whether the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was strictly in orth e. if he did Rot conclude by proposing a motion. The SPEAKER said the Hon. and Learned Member would certainly be out of order unless he concluded with a motion.—( Hear, and cheers ) Sir F. THESIGER said he would beg leave then, being i nstigated by the Hon. Member for Middlesex, to move that the Speaker be directed to issue his writ for the election of a Member for the borough of Greenwich, in the roo to of Alderman Salomons, who had refused to take the oath of adjuration in the form prescribed.—(Loud and pr ()longed cheers for the Opposition benches.) The CHANCELLOR , of the EXCHEQUER said he was very much surprised at the course pursued by the H n. and Learned Member.—(Cheer', and cries of Hear, hear.") He had reason to complain of his making such a motion, after the suggestion had been almost agreed to for the adjournment of the question until Mon day. He hoped he would not proceed with the motion. • Sir F. THESIGER said it was certainly not his in tention to do anything more then concur in the ad journasent; but when the Honourable Member for Middlesex called him to order, he felt it necessary to conclude with a motion which would give the House to under stand precisely the course whic he intended to adopt on Monday when the subject again came under discus sion.—(C he,rs.) Mr. B. OSBORNE and Mr. ANSTEY then rose and at tempted to speak, but were met with loud and boister sus cries of " Order!" which compelled them to resume their seats. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said his object in proposing the adjournment vvas to pre vent an outburst of that sort of feeling which was evidently rising in the House. He was sore every Member was anxious to avoid that degree of angry . feeling which prevailed on a similar occasion last year.—( Bear.) He trusted the motion, after this ex planation, would be withdrawn. Sir F. THESIGER said he was ready to de so, as the motion had now served its purpose.—(Hear.) The motion was then formally withdrawn. Mr. B. OSBORNE asked the Hon. and Learned Member whether it was his intention to move the motion again on .Monday?—(`Hear.) Sir F. THESIGER—I am afraid, if I answer the Hon. Gentleman's question I shall be considered out of order.—(Loud cheers from the Opposition benches.) PETITIONS. Major BERESFORD presented several petitions from places in Essex against the navigation-lawn, and pray ing for an alteration of the law in regard to foreign im portat ions. Sir J. WALMSLEY presented a petition from Liver pool against the paper and newspaper stamp duties. Sir P. NUGENT presented a petition from a place in Ireland, praying for protection ageing the importation of foreign Mr. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from a society calling themselves the Friends of Italy, praying that s, - eps might be taken by her Majesty to prevent the continued occupation of Rome by the French troops. IRISH BILLS. Several private Bills having been read and agreed to, Mr. ROCHE wished to know whether the Govern ment would have any objection to fix a morning sitting for proceeding with several important Irish Bills which were on the paper. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said those hills would he fixed for a morning sitting on Thursday next. The House then went into Committee of Supply. After a short discussion, the vote of 9,8331. for the Schools of Industry, at Dublin, was agreed to. Votes aho of 6001. for the Female Orphan Asylum, and 1,7501. for the Westmoreland Lock Hospital, and 6501. for the Lying-in Hospital, in Dublin, were agreed to. On a vote of 38,0001. being proposed for the support of Irish Presbyterian Ministers, Mr. WILLIAMS objected to paying money for the support of Irish ministers. In Scotland and England no grants were made, and ho saw no reason why any such should be made for Ireland. He should move to disallow this vote. Mr. M‘CULLAGH said the Hon. Member for Lam beth had certainly surprised him for once. If any ob jection to the vo'e was to be made, he should have thought it would have been to the smallness of it. Mr. C. LEWIS defended the vote. It had been first granted by the Irish Parliament in the Revolution, and had been continued ever since. Mr. C. ANSTEY opposed the vote on the grounds of consistency, having always voted against the Maynooth grant. Mr. W. J. FOX suggested that the vote should be reduced annually until at last it should cease altogether. Mr. S. CRAWFORD being opposed to all grants for religious purposes should support the disallowal of this vote. Mr. HAMILTON did not see any objection to the vote, as it scarcely amounted to more than 601. per an nual for each Minister. Mr. E. B. ROCHE supported the vote, as he thought this was a very improper time to withdraw it. After a short discussion the House divided, when there appeared — For the grant ll5 Against it Majority ....... (LEFT SITTING.) THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 17th day of July, 1851, present, the Queen's most excellent Majesty in Council. Her Majesty having been pleased to ap point the Right Honourable Charles William, Earl of Sefton, to be Lord-Lieutenant and Custos Rotulorum of the county palatine of Lancaster, his Lordship this day took the oaths appointed to be taken thereupon, instead of the oaths of allegiance and supremacy. BOARD OF GREEN 1 CLOTH BUCKINGHAM- PALACE, JULY 16. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Major Thomas Middletonßiddulph to be Master of her Majesty's House hold, vice Major-General George Bowles, resigned. FOREIGN-OFFICE, JULY 15. The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. Bern hard ileneler as Consul-General in the United Kingdom for his Highness the Duke of Nassau. WHITEHALL, JULY 16. The Queen has been pleased to direct letters patent to be passed under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom, granting to Major-General George Bowles, the office or place of Lieutenant of her Majesty's Tower of London, in the room of General John Sulivan Wood, deceased. b e en pleased to Eapiirs.i,nttoWbiellicamaptJaoinhsn, WHITEHALL, JULY 16 . The Queen has Jordanand Thomas and A S Stephen I Ll T t n n g ry g, Lee,Gent., to be a Supernume rary Lieutenant, in the Artillery Company of London. WHITEHALL, JULY 18. The Queen has been pleased to present the Reverend George Murray to the church and parish of Balmaclel lan, in the presbytery and stewartry o f Kircudbri ght , vacant by th e death of the Reverend William Wilson, late minister thereof. CROWN-OFFICE, JULY 16. :UMBERS RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT Borough of PARLIAMEN T. K nare6borough—Thomes Collins, jun., of Knaresbor oug h, i n the county of York, Esq., in the room of the Right lion. William Sebright LaEcelles, deceased.Burougrt of Aruudel—The Right Hon. Edward etrutt, of Kingston-h a ll, in the county of Nottingham, in the room of Henry Gran v ill e Fi tzalan Howard, come ... 1 ... 2 -. 3 ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 LON BON, monly called Earl of &rundel and Surrey, who has ac cepted the Lffice of S toward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds. WAR OFFICE, JULY 18. 4'h Regiment of Dragoon Guards—Lieutenant Mi clia,.l 11•Creagh to be Cl. - ptain, by purchase, vice Nicolls, who retires; Cornet Ja m , is Robert Scott to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice M'Cireagh; Cornet Robert John Henry to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Wynne William Rudyrrd Williams, who retires, July 18. 3d Light Dragoons—Captain Edward Fellowes, from half-pay, unattached, t,o be Captain, vice William Howe Hadfield, who exchanges, receiving the difference be tween full pay of Canary and Infantry, July 18. 7th Light Dragoons.—Cornet Henry William Mere dyth to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Farrell, who retires; Cornet Frederick Coates, from the 141 h Light Dragoons, to be Corner, vice Meredyth, July 18. 11th Light D r agoons—Sergeant-Major Robt. Richard Harrison Dungate to be Cornet (Riding Master), by purchase, vice Inglis, promoted, July 18. 17th Light Dragoo . ns—Lieutenant William H. Ken nedy Erskine to be Captain, by purchase, vice Hamilton, who retires; Cornet Sir William Gordon, Bart, to be Lieutenant, by purchtuie, vice Erskine, July 18. 31st Regiment of Foot—Staff Surgeon of the Second Class Jelin Burton .S t. Croix Crosse to be Surgeon, vice Malin-gen, who e:tchanges, July 18. 58th Foot—Captai n Charles Lavallin Nugent to be Major, by purchaso, vice Arney, promoted to an Un attached Lieutenant-Cdoneley ; Lieutenant Isaac Rhodes Cooper to be. Captain, by purchase, vice Nu gent; Ensign Frederick Palmer to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Cooper, July is. 96th Foot—Ensign Aifred John Ford to be Lieute- nant, by purchase, vi De Rogers, who retires. Roy al Canadian fle Regiment—Charles Thomas Castle, Gent, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Lane, promoted, July 18. UNATTACHED.—IIiajor Charles Augustus Arney, from the 58th Foot, to be .Lieutenant-Colonel, by purchase, July 18. HOSPITAL STAFF.— Surgeon John Crespigny Millin gen, from the 31st Foot, to be Staff Surgeon of the Second Class, vice Crosse, who exchanges, July 18. MEMORANDA.—The Six Cadets of the Hon. the East India Company's Serivce, inserted in the Gazette of the 27th ultimo, are to be placed under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel Friary D. Jones, of the Royal Engi neers, instead of Lieutenant-Colonel Sir F. Smith, for field instructions in this art of Sapping and Mining. Lieutenant Thomas Cutting, on half-pay of the 3d Line Battalion King's German Legion has been permit ted to retire from tb e service by the sale of his commis sion, he being about to become a settler in South Aus tralia, July 18. Lieutenant• Colonel Samuel Dilman Pritchard, upon half-pay, Unattached, has been permitted to retire from the army, by the sale of his commission, he being about to become a settler in Canada, July 18. Errata in Gazette of July 11. Bth Light Dragoons—For Edward Phillips, Gent., to be Corner, by purchase, vice " Fitz-Gibbon" promoted, read vice " Calthorpe. promoted." The Christian names of Ensign Lowe, of the 81st Foot, are "Stanley John," not John Stanley, as p reviously stated. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, JULY 17. Royal Regiment of Artillery—Second Captain Henry Montresor to ba Captain, vice Turner, retired on lull pay; First Lieutenant Guy Rottun to be Second Captain, vice Montresor; Second Lieutenant Henry Hamilton Conolly to be First Lieutenant, vice Rotton, July 2. WHITEHALL, JULY 1. The Right lion. Sir John Jervis, Knt., Lord Chief Justice of her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas, at Westminster, has appointed Charles Stockdale Benning, of Dunstable, in the County of Bedford, Gentleman, to be one of the Perpetual Commissioners for taking the acknowledgments of deeds to be executed by married womei., untier the Act passed for the abolition of fines and recoveries, and for the substitution of more simple modes of assurance, in and for the county of Bedford, also in and for the counties of Hertford and Buckingham. BANKRUPTS. Randall Acres, jun..lnulteeper, Puckeridge, Hertford shire, to surrender July 26 and Aug. 30, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansteld, official assignee; Jenkinson, Sweeting, and Jenkinson, Clement's-lane, Lombard-street; Richardson, Much Hadham, Hert s . Richard Natty, fancy colour paper manufacturer, Paul's Wharf', Upper Thames-street, City, July 26 and Avg. 30, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, offic.al assignee; Loughborough, Austin Friars. Henry Cnarles Frost, boarding-house keeper, Russell square, July 26 and Aug. 30, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee ; Steinberg, Bread-street, Cbeapside. Robert Summers, pawnbroker, Bath-street, City-road, Aug. 1, at eleven, and Aug. 30, at half-past twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Whittington, Dean-street, Finsbury-square. William Brunakill, ribbon manufacturer, Paternoster row, Juiy 25, at half-past twelve, and Aug. 28, at half past one, at toe Court of ißankruptcy. Carman. official assignee, Birchin-lane; Crowder and Maynard, Coleman street. William Buchanan, picture dealer, Gerard-street, Soho, Jnly 29, at one, and August 30, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee, Guildhall-cham bers, Basinghall-street; Rodman, Bucklerabury. William Henry Barrett, miller, Gloucester, Aug. 6 and 29, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol; Bretherton, Gloucester• ts,fiJohn Welch, coach builder, Nantwich, Chester, July 28 and August 18, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Cazenove, official assignee, Liverpool; Brough ton, Nantwich. /Gunnis Lean Owens, woollen draper, Manchester, July 29, and August 26, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court. Fraser, official assignee, Manchester; Sale, Worthington, and Shipman, Manchester. PRICE OF SUGAR. The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, com puted from returns made in the week ending July 15, 1851, exclusive of Customs Duties paid or payable thereon on the importation thereof into Great Brit From the British possessions in America 265. Bid. per cwt From the Mauritius ... 255. 9/0. From the East Indies ... ... ... 28s. 10id. „ Average price of the three foregoing de scriptions of sugar, jointly, computed as above, and exclusive of duty ... ... 265. 71d. „ By authority of Parliament, HENRY BICE N ELL, Clerk of the Grocers' Company Grocers'-hall, July 18. MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current, July 18.) SuGSR•—To-day transactions in all sorts of West India Sugar were upon a limited scale, amounting to only 515, making for the week 2,467 hhds, &c.; prices closed fully 6d per cwt under those of Friday last; there is also no decrease of supply, and merchants are desirous to realise. REFINED.—To-day Refined Sugar was in good de mand for home trade purposes, but at 468 6d to 49s there are sellers of low to fine grocery Lumps. In Crushed Sugar there is little doing fr.:r. shipping. MAURITIUS.—This aiternoon there was a further decline of 6 , 1 per cwt at the public sales of 5,228 bags Mauritius Sugar, but all sold, low yellAv went at 34s to 35-i, mid to good 35s 6i to 375, fine 38s to 39s 6d, low to flue brown 30s to 133 s 6d, grey 33s to 375, and good grainy eilow 30s to 31s per cwt. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon Bengal Sugar was ope rated in with caution, and of 1,590 bags at auction a part only sold at 6d to is per cwt decline. Benares mid white went at 38s 6d to 395, and mid soft yellow 34s to 355. In Madras little done privately, and none was offered at auction. FOREIGN.—To-day the private operations in Foreign Sugar were upon a small scale, but holders of Porto Rico and Hayannah refused to sell at any further de cline. At Auction 2,420 bags low brown unclayed Mauilla sold at 28s 6d to 293 being rather cheaper.: MOLASSES —ln consequence of rather lower rates having been submitted to operations are upon a more extended scale. Of Porto Rico 250 casks have been sold privately at 13s 6d, 200 puns West India at 15s 6d for Antigua, and other sorts at 13s to 14s with small parcels of Bengal and Mauritius at 12s par cwt. At auction 200 casks Porto Rico were taken in 13s to 14s 6d per cwt. Honey is offered rather under last week's rates. COFFEE.—To•day the Coffee market presented a firm aspect, the home and export demand is also good. At auction 20 casks 7 barrels and 250 bags Jamaica sold at full rates, fine fine ord and low mid 45s to 50s, other sorts 36a to 445, and triage 34s to 40s. Of Plantation Ceylon 55 casks only a part sold, owing to stiffer rates being asked; low middling and middling went at 49s 6d to 53s 6d, other sorts 42a to 495, and pea berry 60s. Native Ceylon in fair demand at 37s 6d to 38s per cwt. Cocoa.—There is rather more demand for Foreign, and rates are firm, Bahia and Para at 25s to 275, and Guayaquil 29s to 30s. West India has been in good de mand and the rates obtained are rather above those pre vailing previously. At auction 402 bags were sold, mid red at 43s to 445, for mid grey 38s to 395, and damaged 36s per cwt. The rates paid privately for Grenada have been from 33s to 40s per cwt. TEA.—To-day holders of Tea were more disposed to realize, and submitted to rather lower rates; the conse quence was, that of 8,200 pkgs passed the public sales 4,500 sold; low and good ord Congou went at Sid to lOid, good common Youg Hyson is lid. The sales will be resumed on Monday. RICE.—To-day East India Rice met with little at tention, and at public sale 2,734 bags Bengal sold at 9s to 9s 6d for good mid white, good 108, and damaged cis to 108; these rates are 3d per cwt under those previously. 251 sacks and 85 casks Farina in part sold at 13s to 15s SPICES.—At public sale to-day 25 cases Penang Cloves were sold at !lid to is lid ; on lot is 2d ; these are full rates. 6 cases Mace realised 2s 6d to 2s 7d for good to fine, being lull prices. The demand for Nutmegs is better, and 40 pkgs went at a small ad vance, ord brown at 2s ld to 2s 6d, mid and good mid 2s 7d to 2s 9d, repacked and wormy 7d to is 7d, ord limed is 3d to is 9d, mid and very fine bold 2s 4d to 2s 11d. SPIRITS. —There are still few buyers of East India Rum, although merchants are disposed to accept the mo derate rates of is 3d to is 3id proof. In Leeward Island sales have been small at is 4id to Is sd; fine brown at is *I to is 6d. With Demerara the market is well supplied, and parcels are offeriing at is 10d to 2s 9d for 30 to 40 over proof; but there are fow buyers. Fine Jamaica continues in good demand both for home consumption and shipping; there is no increrse of supply, and rates rule firm at from 3a 3d to 5s 6d for 35 to 38 per cent over proof. For other sorts the market it in a dull state, with sellers of low to mid at 2s 3d to 2s 7cl for 30 to 33 over, and good mid to good at 2s 8d to 3s 4d for 32 to 34 over proof. For Brandy merchants appear disposed to sell Cognao best; Brandt of the Vintage of 1850 at 45 4d to 4s 6d, 1849 ditt• 4 6d to 4s Bd, 1848 ditto 5s to 5s 2d, olth r Ss 5d to 7s, low and mid 2s 6d to 3s 6d; and Bordeaux 23 2d to 2s 3d. The value of British made Spirits is 9s 5d to 9s 6d; Gin for exportation 2s 6d; Geneva is 7d to is Bd, and fine is 9d to 2s. Innoo.—This afternoon the public sale of 200 chts damaged ERA India Indigo went at moderate rates, but all sold at from 7d to 2s 6d. Of Guatamala 80 stns sold rather cheaper, damaged is 3d to is 6d, and sound 21, 8d to 4s. COCHINEAL.—This afternoon a greater desire was evinced to operate in Cochint al, and prices advanced Id per lb. At public sale 130 bags sold at 3s to 33 3d for low and mid Honduras Silvers, and ord black 3s 3d to 3s 5d per lb. OILS.—To• day at public sale 50 tuns Sperm sold at 811 to 831 153 for British, one lot 861 103, low American 72/; 60 tuns Southern 301 to 32l ss; 170 casks Ed. Teel Seed 291 to 34/ ; 100 pkgs E.I. Rape Oil 311 15s ; 40 casks refined Spermaceti Is llid. TALLow.—To-day at public 99 pipes, 2 blids South American Tallow sold at 37s 6d; 211 casks Australian —Mutton, first quality 37s 3d to 37s 9d, second 36s 6d to 373; Beef, first quality 36s 6d to 36s 9d, second 35s 6d to 363 3d. P. Y. C. is firm on the spot at 37s 9d. FAIDAY EVENING, JULY 18, 1851. CALIFORNIA. From San Francisco, California, our accounts, ex tending to the Ist of June, are of a very remarkable character, apart entirely from the enormous and in creasing amount of remittances reported from Panama. Large quantities of gold, extracted from the quartz near Sonora by the very simple process of crushing the rock with s hammer, were arriving in Sas Francisco, and operations on an extensive scale with powerful machinery had been opened. Nevada journals contain the following striking reports of the progress of machinery in that district c " There are BOW two steam quartz crushing-mills in successful operation, and five more in process of erection, one of which is to be started to work in a day or two, this latter by Messrs. Collins and Cropet, having six stamps, each weighing 650 pounds, and working to gether in a common trough, which is securely built of the most solid materials, and capable of withstanding any force that may be applied, and calculated to crush about 10 tons of quartz per day. " Mr. Abbey's mill was the first one which was set to work, having now been in operation since about the 20th ot February, and does a lair amount of business. About a mile and a halt from Grass valley, and near Ophir-hill, a mill is being put up by Messrs. Richardson and Sowers, with a prospect of doing a very good busi ness when once in operati on . " The heaviest machine in the valley is now in pro cess of erection for Judge Walsh, and is expected to be in operation by the Ist of June. The mill is to com mence work with a battery of 18 5501 b. stamps, calcu lated to pulverize 40 tons of quartz per day. As the business ot the mill increases, the batteries are to be in- creased to 40 stamps. "Ou the Ist of June it is expected that the mill o Messrs. Peck and Co. will also be in operation, driven by an engine of 30 horse-power, and running 20 stamps of 5501 b. each. These will also be worked on the improved trough or box principle.' " The Sacramento City Company, Colonel J. Hays and Company, will have their machinery in operation within a few days, driving the stamps in two equal batteries." The Stockton Journal learns that the quartz veins at Carsom's Crt ek are yielding immense returns. It says— " In one place the workers took out 901 b. of pure gold in one day. In three days the same party took out 150ib. of unalloyed ore. To those who are sceptical as to the value of the quartz veins with which the whole section of the San Juaquim district is diversified, this account may appear somewhat exaggerated; but, from the au thority on which we give this extraordinary news, we can fully assure all doubters that there is not more truth in the most ordinary and well attested every-day occur rences than there is in our statement." A San Francisco juurnal says— "We were shown yesterday, at the office of Moffat and Co., some 501 b. ot gold specimens, brought from a gold mine in Calaversis. They had been hammered b t i hand out of the quartz rock, and, from their appearance, the ruck must be the richest we have yet seen. Indeed, the wealth of this mine appears inexhaustible. " The stockholders of the Deseret Mining Company have just held their annual meeting at Los Angeles. This company are now in active operation at their mine, about 250 miles from Los Angeles, and have two mills at work. Two shafts have been sunk, one 40 and the other 16 feet deep, and about 150 tons of rock have been thrown out. 15 men are employed, and preparations are being made to erect more mills. The company is very sanguine of success, and have exhibited some beau tiful specimens. They have, as yet, had not difficulty with the Indians at their mine, although some of their prospecting parties have been charged upon by the Utah' who, discovering them to be Americans, treated them with the utmost kindness." Letters from Downsieville, dated May 19, in the San Francisco papers, add— " Dry diggings are numerous and are being discovered in every direction, and almost every new 'strike' is richer than the last. Dargan's Flat, opposite the town, has turned out over 200,000 dolls. within the last two months. One claim, belonging to some gentleman from Pittsburgh, having yielded over 12,000 dolls., and was sold a tow days since for 6,000 dolls., cash, and has al most repaid the purchasers already. I have seen 2,100 dolls, for one day's work for two men—all large, coarse gold. Large deposits of quartz have been found be tween this place and Indian Creek, which prospects' very large from the specimens brought in. A quantity has been sent to Nevada to be experimented upon, and but little doubt exists that it will pay at least 50 per cent. Miners are arriving in large numbers every day, and many are leaving here with their piles' for home. Living is cheap: fresh beef, pork, flour, butter, &c., plentiful and cheap, and but few who board themselves spend more than 1 doll. per day." From other sources we extract the following addi tional items:— "Rumours have been rife of late that the veritable 'Laguna d'Oro' has been found. Whatever may be the case, near Rich-bar, on the North Fork of the Feather River, another bar has been struck, where 700 claims were taken up in one day, and those who had gone to work were getting from 10 to 50 ounces per day. This intelligence, from such good authority, can hardly be doubted. The neighbourhood is known to be ono of the richest, 43 men out of 400 having gone home this year with fortunes alter a single season at Rich-bar. "There is a prospect that an unusual quantity of gold will go forward from this city by the steamer of the 15th. Freeman and Co. have already received more than 60,000 dolls., and their entire shipment will probably exceed 100,000 do ll B- The price of dust at present is I not considered an nd . ucearent to sell, and the miners rather prefer to send it on themselves to getting less than 16 dolls, per ounce, even if it is almost one quarter black sand. The accounts of further rich discoveries near Weaverville incline us to the opinion that the Cayota diggings are likely to prove as extensive in this region as at Nevada. " Some hundreds of emigr an t s f rom t h e C e l est i a l Em pire have arrived in this city within the last week. Tnis element ot our population is likely to be a rapidly in creasing one. Tens of thousands of these honest and industrious people will be among us in two or three years more. In all domestic pursuits their services are not surpassed, while in the mechanic arts their habits of imitation make them apt scholars. There is no doubt but that extensive contracts will be entered into to bring the Chinese to California, and their services will be chosen here for any and all duties to which they are suited. As the opposition among the Celestials to emi gration wears away we may expect to find them extend ing their journey to the Atlantic board, and more im portant results than are now anticipated will follow from this movement. In the sugar and cotton fields of the south it is more than probable that this labour could be used as profitably as that of slaves, whose coat of keep ing is far greater than the economical Chinese. There are many strange things in the future, which the Ame rican occupation of California p rom i ses t o h as t en b e f ore our view. The Chinese have only led the way. The Japanese will soon follow in their march." On other points the San Francisco journals contain little intelligence of interest. San Francisco was rapidly , recovering from the effects of the late destructive con flagration; three-fourths of the streets devastated were again rebuilt, and business was resuming its usual course. Stockton also had made considerable progress in re building; and, as regards the markets, neither of the disasters had had the effect on prices which was antici pated, the vast quantities of goods on shipboard and en route being more than adequate to meet the demand. Of affairs in the interior the Alta California says:— " The Whig and Democratic parties have each made their nominations, and the contest for State officers and Congress is now fully opened. The Whig nominations were made with much unanimity, and probably the De mocrats will give quite as undivided a support to their nominees. Rumours of Indian difficulties and skir mishing in the northern part of the state are rife. The despised Indians have proved themselves not lacking in courage, and it is to be deeply regretted that a few indi viduals have had the power and want of principle which has made a war with these wretched creatures quite pro bable. There never has existed in the nature of the case any necessity for such a deplorable condition of things. The prospects of agriculture are very good—much better than was at one time anticipated. The late rains have materially increased the probabilities of good crops. This employment of a portion of our citizens is certain to be an increasing and profitable one. The Indian Com missioners have met with excellent success in their efforts to pacify thelndians, and only need the sustaining arm of Govet nment at home, with reasonable appropria tions, to render the State and nation a most excellent service. The first execution under the laws of this state took place in Stockton on Thursday last. It was for murder. Crime has been considerably checked of late, and there is some hope for a better state of things in future." THE " OLD CITY GAS LIGHT COMPANT."—The " Great Central Gas Consumers' Company," the " great central" example of independent self-supply by "gas con sumers," has sunk from its great central position into a mere addendum to the "Old City Gas Light Company," having no sooner overcome all the strenuous endeavours of the said company t r blackguard it, to obstruct, and to strangle it, than it has fallen into the open arms of this its bitterest enemy— unable to stand alone, we presume, after so much exhaustion. Our opinion of such amalgamations has been often enough expressed. Negotiations such as these have never yet had the public good as their real o bject or result, however obvious it may be that one consolidated company could (if it would) supply that public at a cheaper rate than while in competition as two distinct establishn lents. The real object is a fancied interest in sacrificing the public's ultimate hopes by preventing the further reduction (,1 prices conse quent upon a continuance of competition wit fl each other.— Builder. Tut MOORS.—The young birds are already strong on the wing, are as large as partridges, and altogether pro• raise to be a match for the quickest eye and the steadiest hand on the approaching "Twelfth."—AkrdetniTownial. BANK OF ENGLAND. (From this night's Gazette.) In Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth o 1 Victoria,cap. 32 for the Week ending on Saturday, the 12th day 01 July, 18 5 1. ISBUS DEPARTMENT. Notes i55ued........ 27,450,155 Government debt •• 11,015,100 Other securities .. •• 2,984,900 Gold coin and bullion 13,416.7.0 bullion •• • • • • 33,375 £27,450,155 X 27,450,155 [. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. l. :P.LETNEN T. Dated the 17th day of July, 18 Government secnri- - ties (including Dead Weight Annuity).. 13,464.021 Other securities •• •• 12,3.39,725 Notes ••••••• • • • • • •• 7,159,1r0 Gold and silver coin.. 567,CC0 433,680,426 :. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. .NGE.-(THIS DAY.) Gibraltar•• •• •• •• •• •• •• -- Leghorn ........ •• • 30 35 10130 S, .. ••••..•• • • • • • • 25 i7} Sfilau •.r • • • • • • • • • • • • • Venice.... .... • • Saples •• •• 41% "alerrno, per 0z........ 124 Li5b0n................ Oporto .• .• ••..•.•• • • •• 533 i Rio Janeiro •• • Buenos Ayres .. ••.. • • Sew York, GO days'sight Philadelphia .... • • .. •• tBICEB Or BULLION, MI OS, Foreign Gold inbars.. £8 17 9 Vortmgal Gold Coin • • 0 0 0 Spanish Doubloons .. 0 0 0 New Dollars ••.. •• 0 4 11 Silver In bars ...... •• 0 b ON lIALNKING D, Proprietors'oapital.. 14,553,000 Rest .........• 3,192,04 Public deposits (in cluding Exchequer, Commissioners of National Debt, Sav ings-banks, and Di vidend accouni,s).. 4,319,318 Other deposits 10,440,830 Seven day and other _ - Bllls.• •••••• • • •• 1,175,054 433,680,426 Dated the 17th day of July, 185 COURSE OF EXCH) Anasteruani .......• .. 11 16 y,„ bltto, three months 11 1 iotterdana .... • • ..•• 11 18 Brussels— .• 25 22 yi a amburgh .... • • M.B. 13 7% Paris, 3 days'sisht • 25 2% Ditto, 8 months .... 25 2?% Marseilles •........... 25 0 Bourdeaux ......... • frankforton 11914 8er1in............ • • • • Vienna, effec. 11 46 Trieste, ditto.... • • .... 11 47 Petersburgh, SU. Rble.. 37% Madrid •• •• ........ 49 k Cedis •• ............ 50% Barcelona •• .......... Sevilla.. • • •• • . • • • • • • IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS. July 17. Mr. HEADLAM pr, , sf-nted a petition in favour of the Arrest of Absconding Debtors' Bill. SUPPLY. _ _ On the motion for going; ll:Ito Committee of Supply, Mr. Sergeant MURPHY rose to call the attention of the First Lord of the Admiralty to the want of accom modation for the repair of steam-vessels at Hawlboline; and to ask whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to provide the same. The Hon. Gentleman also moved for a Committee to inquire into the subject. Sir E. BARING opposed the motion on the ground of expense. Mr. E. B. ROCHE was quite aware that the Admi ralty did not spare expense, but ho complained of the centralization of the expenditure to England. It was nonsense to talk of leaving the enterprise to private ape culation, because private resources had not effected these objects even in England. He considered it most unjust that while hundreds of thousands of pounds were ex pended in trying to make Holy head and Devonport packet stations, that all aid was refused to Ireland i❑ that way. Captain BOLDERO called the attention of the Admi ralty to the tact that although Sir 11. Salith had written an urgent letter to have a reinforcemen: sent to the Cape, yet, in consequence of the harbour of Cork not being in a condition to embark troops, the 120 Lancers had to be conveyed to England, and thus a delay of six days was the consequence. Admiral DUNDAS denied that Sir H. Smith had written an urgent letter for troopp, or that any unneces sary delay was cau,ed in the embarkation of the troops. Dr. POWER reminded the House that both the Fir,t Minister of the Crown and the late Lord Auckland pledged themselves that a naval establishment should be maintained at Cork. He remembered being one of a deputation who waited on Lord Auckland a few years ago, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty, and he distinctly pledged himself that such should be done. Colonel CHATTERTON said he never saw a more wretched ship than that on which the port-admiral at Cork hoisted his flag on a recent occasion. He also complained that the horses of the 12th Lancers had to be sold previous to their embarkation. Admiral DUNDAS assured his Hon. and Gallant Friend that he was mistaken as to the flag ship of the port-admiral, for he had a large two-decker and a screw with him.—(A. laugh.) As for the horses of the 12th Lancers it was thought better that they should be mounted at the Cape. Admiral BOWLES said that the late Government al ways looked on the harbour of Cork as one of great im portance, and when he was in office he had always con sidered it as such. It was of the greatest moment that such a harbour should be always lett in a proper condi tion, so as to render it not only a proper port for mer chant vessels, but for men-of-war. Sir W. H. BA .RRON reminded the House that they added thousands upon thousands on the naval ports of this country, but Ireland was to be abandoned, and left to its own tesources. They destroyed her farmers, her landed interest, her milling interest, and now refused to contribute a single farthing in repairing one of the finest harbours in the United Empire. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion ... ... 104 Against it ... 26 Majority ... —7B THE HORFIELD ESTATE. _ Mr. P. MILES next called the attention of the House to the case of the Bishop of Gloucester and Bristol, and the charges lately brought against the Right Rev. Prelate. His object in bringing the question forward was to clear the character of his Right Rev. Friend, and to show that the charges preferred by the Hon. and Learned Member for Cockermouth were totally without foundation. The principal of these was, that there was a moral responsi bility on the part of the bishop not to grant a lease of the Horfield estate, and he grounded that charge on the evidence of two witnesses, and the fact that the two pre vious bishops who held the see made no such lease. The Hon. Gentleman spoke in so low a tone of voice as to be rendered inaudible in the gallery. We understood him to say, as far as we could coils ct from the detached sentences which reached us, that as regarded the ques tion of the renewal of the lease of the Horfield Manor, the Bishop of Gloucester had sufficiently answered. That bishop was under no moral obligation to renew, and was bound alone, with regard to this matter, by dealt h the ,s r is Oder h t ihne estateCcni nc i a l of 1836, sh e a pleased, nd a n t d h a t h t a b t e h was i le object bjec t t t to n o the transaction was to do the best for the public good. Ile said the correspondence stated by the Hun. Gentleman as having taken place in 1822, did not occur until 1847, and that the account green of it was so diffuse, that he could not arrange it. The Hon. Gentleman stated that the bishop was under a moral obligation not to renew the lease. Now, he had the' authority of the bishop to say, there was not a word of r io e ne w rs as fo a r n t e h g e o s t ad ia l t tr io u n th w i t t h h a t t h e s t E a ? e r e : i n a t. 3t c l a n i C lB o 4 m 7 m t ihsts of the estate, and subsequently an offer was made by the bishop to sell it for 11,5001., but that was broken off and not concluded, and that trausac.ion was known to all this other bishops. From that time to the death of Dr. Shadwell nothing wee done to effect a sale. The bishop then appointed Mr. Holt, of Gloucester, his secretary, as lessee, and instead of putting in the fives of his three sons, as alleged, he put in the lives of the three Royal Princesses.—(Elear, bear,) Gteat stress had been laid on the value of the estate , which was said to amount to a rental of 3,4001., whereas it did not exceed 5551., which was also subject to deductions. When he up pointed his own secretary, that gentleman gave up a living of between 7,0001. and 8,0001. a year, and there fore ho would derive a less income; and as a slur had been thrown on his title he appointed his dean secretary to secure the property. He hoped he had said sufficient to exonerate the bishop from any blame. In his own diocese be was respected for his liberality and kindness, and his subscriptions were greater than those of any previous bishop. He therefore thought, to quote the words of the Hon. Member, " that the Right Rev. Prelate would be again able to hold up his bead as an honest man." Mr. HORSMAN said the Hon. Gentleman had cer tainly made his statement with great fairness, and where he had censured it was in the lightest manner that could be unpleasant to him. This was not a question between him and the bishop; it was a charge which, if true, affected others as well as the Bishop of Gloucester. If the indictment was found that the Bishop of Gloucester had devastated the estates of the Church it lay also against others. It was a public question. He knew nothing of it but from evidence taken before a Committee of that House, but the Hon. Gentleman made no refer ence to that evidence. What was the statement that he (Mr. Horsman) made? It was this, that when the Bishop of Gloucester succeeded to the see, the estate of Horfield rested upon one life, and that both the previous bishops had refrained from renewing. That Bishop Grey had attempted to renew, not when the first life fell in, but when the two first lives dropped, but that he re frained from doing so, because he could not obtain an adequate fine. He also stated that when Bishop Allen succeeded to the see, Lord Melbourne required from him a pledge that he would nut renew, and that Bishop Allen had not, during his time, made a renewal. He stated this noon the evidence of Mr. Richards, twenty years per petual curate of Horfield, and well acquainted with the estate, who stated that he had frequent conversations with Bishop Grey on the subject, and that he heard him state he would not renew because he could not get the price he asked, as he preferred the see should have the benefit rather than his own children, and would ra ther let the lease lapse under such circumstences. This was corroborated by a letter written by Bishop Grey's son, in which it was stated that negotiations had been going on for three years previous to the bishop's death, and that the sum was refused as inadequate, for the bishop, as was well known, was not a mac to do dirty work by enriching his family at the expense of his sue cessors.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member had not alluded to the evidence taken before the Church Leases Committee on this subject. The case of the Bishop of Gloucester had been stated elsewhere, not more ably but more artisti cally. Mr. Richards stated in his evidence that commu nication had been made after Bishop G ray's death to Lord Melbourne, with regard to the Hurtle 1.1 estate, and that he knew an attempt had been made for a renewal, and that he knew that no attempt had been made for a renewal during Bishop Allen's time, because Dr. Shai well would have informed him if such had been the case. He (Mr. Horsman) did not say there was direct evidence of these transactions, but that there was strong circumstantial evidence to show that Bishop Allen had been required by Lord Melbourne to give a pledge that he would not renew. Bishop Allen himself stated that a renewal ought not to be for lives. Now, bow was this evidence met? In another place witnesses were referred to. represented as of uninopea-heble verneety. Yrst, there was the evidence Mr. Vine. tit , wi.o stated that the bishop refused to renew because the !east° would not give the price asked. li© added that what he stated was not of his own knowledge, but what he learned from it.hers. He further stat,d that the pre sent bishop would not take the fine offered. Every an swer of this gentlman was given in the most cant ous manner, and showed that he knew nothing of the trans action. The Right Reverend Bishop who defended the of Gloucester said these sentiments were derived from a surveyor in the neighbourhood, who was notorious fir his opposition to the Church end Churchmen. The person referred to was Mr. Stukey. Mr. P. MILES said the person referred to was Mr. Sturge, not Mr. Stukey, who was the grain banker. Mr. HORSMAN—He could only say that every an swer of Mr. Stukey was given on hearsay. Now he would come to Mr. Sturge. He stated there had been negotiafions between tt;i3 Bishop of Bristol and the lessee referring to Bishop Grey, not Bishop Allen, who was then Bishop of Ely. He would now come to a part of the evidence in which the Bishop of Gloucester totally denies the whole matter, and when he alluded to it, be hoped that the House would take the whole matter into consideration.—(Hear, hear.) He saw that there was a considerable degree of ingenuity practised in 1842, and that the plan was also endeavoured to be carried on in 1847, which he looked upon as most unjust, and which he believed the House would totally disapprove of.— (Hear, hear,) He argued this on the evidence of the blue book, which was worthy of the consideration of the House—(Hear, hear)— and which was diametrically opposed to the evidence of the Bishop of Gloucester. — (Bear, hear.) It was said that in 1848 the Bishop of Gloucester offered to make over thi: property to the Ec clesiastical Commissioners on what they considered to be liberal terms, and that the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon (Sir James Graham), who was chair man of a Committee at that time, to whom the matter was submitted for consideration, was favourable to the transaction; but all the agreement then entered into, as it appeared from Mr. Murray's evidence, was, that the Commissioners assented to the terms of the bishop's offer, not because they considered it liberal, but in order to save the estates from indefinite alienation. He con- ceived that the Commissioners mignt have so acted in order to avoid a state of things occurring which would be attended with greater difficulty. He made these charges in that House the other night in the presence ot seve ral Ecclesiastical Commissioners, and not one of them had contradicted them, but so far from that being done, the motion of the Honourable Member for Bris tol on the subject was withdrawn from that House altogether, and introduced in another place, where there were none of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners present to approve or disapprove of it. There was one other point to which he would direct the attention of the House. The Act by which the sees of Bristol and Gloucester were united, was passed in 1836. At the time of his appoint- ment to those sees the bishop was to receive the -tempo ralittes of both, the one being represented at 925/., and the other at upwards of 3,0001. per annum, and the Act uniting them fixed the income of barb at 5,0004 per an num ; but, instead of that, the average income derived from them by the bishop had, for the last 14 years, been 7.228/. per annum, and in 1848, the income was 11,1071. In 14 years, therefore, the bishop had an increase of income of 32 0001., over the 5,0001. he was allowed by Act of Parliament.--(Rear, hear.) He thought the Ecclesiastical Commissioners were wrong in not making proper stipulations as to the property of air field, as their doing su would have prey, rated the evils which had taken place, as the Bishop of Gl , ;ucester bad now renewed the lease of that property for three lives for the benefit of his family. Oa a former occasion be stated :hat the lease was renewed to Mr. Holt, the bishop's sec retary, but that it was for the lives of his own family. That was the infirrination he received, but they were now told that the lives placed in toe lease were those of three of the children of the Royal Family, The Bishop of Gloucester, by doing that, had taken care to have three lives of a family ❑otoriously long-lived, and associated the name of the Queen with a transaction which was anything but creditable.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon Member for Bristol hail said, that for ibis property the b shop bad given up a living of 700/. per annum, but be found that the living referred to was worth only 500/. a year, while the Hot field estate, which he had taken pos session of for three lives, now produced 3,000/. a year, and in course of the three lives might he worth 30 0001. a year. Here, then, was one of the most valuable estates of the Church taken possession of by the Ecclesiastical CommisAenera, by virtue of au Order in Council, alienated from the Cnurch, and assigned for three lives to the bishop's family. Now, though the bishop might have a legal right thus to alit retie the estate, he maintained there was amoral obligation upon him net to do so. Even the law was against granting long leases of ecclesiastical property, tor the 13th of Elizabeth condemned the practice, and the Act of 1836, appointing fixed incomes to the bishops, evidently meaut that tne sum they might receive over 5,0001., the sum specified in the Act, was to be held by them in trust, and accounted for to the Ec clesiastical Commissioners. It was no answer to sty that the Bishop or Gloucester had only done what other bishops had done, for he held that of all others the bishops of the Church, in the management of the pro perty appertaining to their office, ought to act so as to be an example to others; but was such the case? So tar from its being su, did they not find that the bishops were the very worst administrators? For how many churches might not have been built, and schools erected, had not the sums bequeathed generations ago, by charitable individuals, for charitable purposes, been alienated from the purposes for which they were originally intended, by the prelates of the Church? He, therefore, condemned the system of allow ing those parties to have the right of doing with Church property as they pleased, as, were it properly ad ministered, and appropriated to proper objects, educa tion might be extended, and crime diminished by it' and the general well-being of the community greatly ad vanced. Mr. GLADSTONE said, when it was arranged that they should depart from the ordinary business of the night to enter upon an explanation and a discussion re specting the Horfield Mauer, he confessed he little ex pected, after the statement that had been made by his Hon. Friend, that the Hon. Gentleman should have risen —not in vindication of hieueell, which he for one thought was much needed—but that he should have departed— sorely to the inconvenience of the House and the delay of public business—to such topics as the future condition of Ilorfi , Id Manor, to the revenues of the see of Bristol and Gluucest.er, the conduct of the bishop of that see, and thence to the revenues and conduct of the bishops of all the other sees of the Church.—(Hear, hear.) With reference to the state of toe law on these matters, he agreed with every word that had fallen from the Hon. Gentleman.—(Hear, hear.) He fully concurred as to the badness of our legislation; but it was one thing to de • flounce bad legislation, and another to judge with Be.. verity those who merely act under that bud system which the Legislature had established. It was another thing, Lot inertly to deal severely wide, but to misrepre sent ;hem, as the lion. Gentleman had dome.—(Hear, hear.) He would pass lightly over some of the state ments of the Hon. Gentleman, fur he confessed he did not understand some of those with regard to the see of Gloucester. The Honourable Geed, man said the revenue of that see was 10,000/. some huuereds in 1843, end that from episcopal sources alone the bishop tied received 34,0001. more than he ought to have received, (Mr. Hursusan dissented.) The H o nourable Gentleman said, that including the two commendoms which ya lded 1,700/ the revenue of the bishop in that year had been 11,0001.; did he not say thee ? (Mr. Homelike—Yes ) Well, then, taking that 1,7001. from the revenue of the see, that, according to the Hun. Gentlemen, would give only 9 3001. from episcopal sources fur that year. But if he took the agates as given in the return ordered to be laid on the table of the House of Commons for that year he found that the revenue of the Bishop of Glou cester for that year was only 6,2001, subject to a deduc tion of about 200/., instead or 9,3001., as stated by the Hun. Gentleman. Well, then, the Hoo. Gentleman said the Bishop of Gloucester had received 34,000/. beyond what he exited have received from episcopal sources. Mr. .110116M.AN—I said 34,0001. over his own cal culation. Mr. GLADSTONE—WeII, he would take it that way. Over his owu calculation. But he could find nothing of the ]and in the returns laid before the House fur the last seven years. According to these returns the net revenue of the see wa5 .£3,500 .£3,500 For the year 1844 ••• 1845 ••• 1846 ..• 1848 1849 And for 1850 That was for the last seven years, and he must say he was pubaled to know by what ingenuity the Hon. Gen tleman could make out, by these figures how the Bishop had received 34,0004 more than he was entitled to. Mr. HORS MAN said he took the 34,0001. on the Bishop's own calculation, in 1836. Mr. GLADSTONE—That might be, but he had given the returns for the last seven years, and at all events it did not bear the statemeut that the income of he bishop in 1848 was 11,000/., and he wanted the Hon. Gentleman to show how he could justify that statement. —(Hear, hear.) He entered fully into the spirit of every syllable uttered by the Hoe. Gentleman in the abstract as to the duties of bishops, and the spiri t and way in which they should discharge those duties; but he was bound to say at the same time that our law pro ceeded upon a totally different calculation —that it bound he bishops to the world, and connected them with the Mi nisters and the Legislature of the day; and if we placed them in that position, it was not for the Hon. Gentle man to come down u p on t h e m with severity and censure because they did not come up to his abstract ideas —his sound ideas in themselves.—(Hear, hear.) But let them go to the statements originally made by the Honourable Gentleman with respect to Horfield Manor. These statements, as he understood them, divid e d themselves into two separate questions. In the first place, whether the Bishop of Gloucester has pursued a course which calls for the censure o f this House; and, in the second place, whether the Hun. Gentleman had exercised due diligence in the examina tion of the facts before making these statements against a prelate of the Church. The Hon. Gentleman had said the Horfield Manor was worth a great deal now, and that it would be much mere valuable in future. He bad no hesitation in saying that in taking the course he had done be was acting under the conviction that he had l ega l power to do so; and though he might not have taken the course the Hon. Gentleman thought best, yet do not let the House confound the possibility of future wrong-doing with the positive violation of engagements and breach of faith charged against him.—(blear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman would agree with him in one thing, namely, that under present circumstances the bishop could not, as a gentleman, declare what his intentions were at the present moment. If he were to do Bo it would deprive of all grace whatever lie meant to do in future in favour of the Church. He had a right to say, will use my own di,urction as to the time and man ner in which I will /fa shat I istesd to de." But in the useatesitee use douse heti nu groubci fur corideumatioe. If he used the great powers in his possession wrongly, then condemn hire, but not at present, because the law had invested him with these great powers, and et pr,%'&ent they bad no QVI3OIiCe whivever that lie intended 10 COis -11110 thew.—(Hear, hear.) But what was the state' meat of the Hon Member? Iu the first place he sai'd that Bishop Grey at a certain period had eeclared his determination not to renew the lease of Horficid Manor, but to let it run out for the b m fit f the Church. Had that atlegattou been sustained? On the contrary, it had been entirely broken down, and by no one more than the Gentleman himself, because he had read a letter from a son of Bishop Grey, in which it was stated that a few months before his death an offer was made which he refused, because it was inadequate.—(Hoar, hear.) That was a point blank contradiction to the first allege- . tion. The second allegation was that Bishop Allen bad been bound by Lord Melbourne not to renew the lease during his incumbency. The Hon. Gentleman had now withdrawn that allegation, and admitted that he had no reason to make it. Mr. HORSMAN—I do not admit anything of the kind. Mr. GLADSTONE—If the Hon. Member did not admit that, he had, at all events, made a great alteration in the original allegation he formerly stated as one of fact. He now stated it as ono entirely of inference and presumption, and it was on that ground alone the state ment rested, that he did not mean to renew the lease of Horfield Manor. The letter of Bishop Allen to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, in which be offered them the it use of Horfield Manor, showed that he had no in tention of sacrificing his rights, because he proposed to hand over the estate to them on condition that they would build a palace for his residence. Then the Hon- Member made, what he could not help thinking and saying was a very remarkable statement respecting Bishop Monk. That statement was that he knew no thing of moral obligation, but he was determined to stand on his legal right.% Mr. HORSMAN—I said nothing of the kind. Mr. GLADSTONE repeated that was his decided impression of the statement of the Hon. Gentleman. Be had imputed to the bishop that, either in writing or in words, ho had stated that he knew nothing of moral ob.. ligation, and was determined to stand upon his legs' rights. Did the Hon. Gentleman adhere to that? Mr. HORS \IAN—I adhere to all that I said before; but I do not it wept the representation of the Right Hoy* Gentleman. Mr. GLADSTONE did not wish to misrepresent the Hon. Gentleman, but he would only say that the principal of these charges had entirely failed. Well, then, he understood that another capital point of the case was, that when an arrangement had been made be tween the bishop and the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, it was stopped because it was detected as a job. Did the Hon. Gentleman adhere to the principle of that state ment? He had not given one tittle of evidence to sup' port it, and it was important because it bad been states elsewhere, and the Hoe. Member knew it had, that the arrangement had not failed on its merits, but simply be cause the lawyers had advised it to be given upon account of some technicalities. These appeared to him to be the moat material allegations in the speech of the Hon. Gentleman, and they had all vaaiArd away on being subj.cted to the test of examination, nor had the Holt- Gentleman, in his speech of nearly two hours that night, said anything that could sustain these allega tions. But the Hon. Member had made much of .6 letter, said to have been written by the bishop, in which he said it would be disparaging to his character if he thought of renewing the lease of Hcefield Manor. Bar he held in his hands another letter f ro m the bishop. in which he did not treat the mere idea of the renewal o' e the lease as disparaging and injurious. His own word/ were, that it would be disparaging to his character if be were to renew the lease on the same tenure of lives. 16 was to that, and not the mere renewal that he referred , and therefore that charge passed away like all the others. Mr. HORSMAN— When was the letter published? Mr. GLADS'IONE—If the lion. Gentleman thought the iiistiop of Gloucester capable of using fabricated and forged documents to support his statements, there WO an coo or the case. Mr. HORSMAN—I quoted from the blue hooka."' was that pamphlet of equal authority? Mr. GLADS TONE was nut quoting anything cone tradictory to what had been stated by the Hoe. Gen lt man. He was merely showing that the biehoP considered it disparaging to suppose that he would renew the lease on the same term of lives on coPY' hold. Well, but you say " that is the very thing he has done."—(Hear, hear.) Ile was not so sure of that- The bishop was both lessor and lessee.—(A laughs) The Honourable Member for Guildford, who laugheav only laughed at his own mistake, and showed hoe , little he understood the matter. The bishop had great powers, and public opinion would hold him responsible for the use be made of these powers. He must, there' fore, say, as far as he had been able to follow the state' merits of the Honourable Gentleman, that he had efl' tire.y failed in proving these statements, and that he had not shown reasonable care before making thelo' The Bishop of Gloucester had only e x e rcised his tiO' doubted rights as an ecclesiastical proprietor. He alight agree with the Hon. Member in thinking these right° were too great—that they rested en a wrong feundaticab and ought to be amended; but that was a totally diffe" rent question from their exercise while they did exist . ; and it was hard and cruel that a bishop should be hel d up to public odium who believed that he had been steal ) ; with the most munificent intentions towards the Church' —(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Gladstone) had full coati' deuce in his honour, and that he would act on the prir, ciples he bad laid down for his guidance with respee; to Horfield Manor—that he would still act in what IA; been described by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners °' a " liberal" spirit. It seemed clear that his intenti °9 was to apply the money for renewal to the very pur poses the Hon. Gentleman had in view, namely, the augmentation of the smaller livings in his diocese. n' e hoped the generosity of these intentions would be take° into consideration, and that the future acts of the bishoP would be left to be visited with censure if he did notes up to them; but he called upon the House not to 013 ' demn him beforehand. Alter a few words in explanation from D it HORSMAN, Sir J. GRAHAM expressed his regret at finding this discussion going on when he entered the House, and 13 ° was not sure that it was for the public benefit that tb; discussion should be allowed to proceed.—(Hear, hetir' a l But he was afraid that his silerce might be misconstrtl e 4 and therefore felt bound to state briefly his opinion. Pi had not been appointed a member of the Ecciesiati o S. Commission until 1841, and he quite agreed that t he press nt state of the matter was nut, in many reepeet s t satisfactory, especially in the distinction between tP episcopal and the common funds.—(Loud cries of '• hear.") He thought such a distinction was most injurio" not only to the public, but to the prelates thenaself es ' and he rejoiced that last year a remedy had Leen si ) plied to this particular evil, and hoped that would ii° f i been accepted as an indication that other reforms woo d follow. He bad no acquaintance with the Bishop ° Gloucester and Bristol, save that arising from such inte r ( course as arose from bitting at the common board ° which they were members, and he was surprised th s , , ', looking at the high reputation of the bishop ass sc hols' and a gentle mati, and one who was anything but Dig gai dly in pecuniary matters—(Hear, hear)—sn charges shoue) have been made against him —(Heer'' ihe high reputation he had sustained at the Universil of Cambridge, his character in his own diocese, and lb fact that be was now approaching 70 years of age; raving during his long life sustained the reputation 0' ; scholar and a gentleman, made him deeply regret tb li any transaction should have occurred which the H° l3 Member considered it his duty to bring before the BO; in the terms he had.—(Hear, hear.) He must say, h ° ": ever, that the part which he h a d ta k en on t h e Cousso; sion, had led him to entert a i n no d ou b t w h atever , eitbe of the high character or munificent intentions of tb e fi bishop. Ho had a right to exercise the powers invest in him, and believed he intended to do so tor the benefit° the diocese. He only wished they could have a free coif ference where the Hon. Gentleman might enter / o '4 discussion with the bishops.—(Hear, hear.) He woul d find these Right Reverend Prelates preternaturally elefOr in words,—( Laughter.) But he put it to the Hon. Gen ' tleman, was it really worth while to hold up these Prr„ lutes as robb ers , d evastators , and plunderers? The b it , terest enemy of the Church could not use worse le% gunge, and he must s ay be almost blushed to hear etl e f expressions. He was quite sure that the Bishop Id Gloucester's reputation for piety and morality wob ilt survive the imputations which had been cast upon it the matter now under the consideration of the House. to Sir B. HALL wa s quite confident that good wo u ld arise to the public out of the discussion of the quec Lion now under the consideration of the House.—(li ef) ; hear.) What he now principally rose for was, to e press a hope that the Government would appoint a C°: o m i ss i on with power and i nstruct i ons to go i n to s. i j whole question of the t empora li t i es o f th e Ch urc h, to so constitute that Commission that a satisfactory °l l coun t would be gi ven o f such tempora li t i es in e'si i d parish. He wished to as k th e Ri g ht Ho no urable a s- ; tleman, the Member for the University of Cambridgeso, question on a matter which had come under his aut l3 0 rity, namely, whether the return made by the bish d e , of the gross income of their sees, was a faithful r ; turn of the incomes of those bishops ? The bish° ll o were required to make a return to the Ecclesiast ic s Commission ers o f t h e f u ll va l ue of th e p ro fit s of the i r sees, as deriv e d by t h em , a nd they had made a reta:eci but he was given to understand that they had graov,,it leases eith er f or th e ir trustees, or for the benefit of tbj, own families ; but inasmuch as no money had P°5 5 : 3 1 3 0 that no account had been rendered of the matter in return. He found that the Bishop of Durham had r o t ceived 79.0001. more in that way than was fiCCOUnted, • in the fines, and he wished to ask the Right Hon. lirseof tleenan whether he could inform Lim that the bishop "tip greeted any leases for the benefit of his trustees or for° ) 3 0 and whether the full value had been set upon them if had? 01 0 Mr. GOULBURN was not prepared to answe r t to question put to him by the Right Hon. Baronet, oj3 having had any intimation that such a question tv ° .do be put to him. He, however, knew that the pr ioc , i 'to laid down by the Ecclesiastical Cemmissioners tens e ri ff , give a fair result. With respect to the Bishop of h a d don, he was enabled to state that in the leases h e s k t , made he made sacrifices of fines which, under oth er cumstancei of lotting, be might have obtained. ; Re Sir B. HALL thought that the Right Hon. Ge li b iae marl misunderstood the question whichhe put to o d The Right Hon. Gentleman would find in the 0° 1 , 0 3 return, p. 234, that the Bishop of London in 184 3 40 , received 13 5191., and that he had granted leases to ,P. self to the amount of 12,0001., and yet the return . 70 peered to show only 2,161/. The return, therefore, what he should call a fallacious return. Mr. GOULBURN could bear testimony thitt t ie Bishop of London had made very large sacrifices to granting of leases. He granted leases from Y es of year, whereas had he granted there iii the orciieari the whet , eold after sepie.en d. Sir R. INGLIS was glad to Lave an oppertuD i o t) :;" doing justice to a Right Rev. Prelate (the Bis b ep i tst• Gloucester) whose reputation htid that night be