The Sun. — London, England, 1850-07-10 00:00:00

F tamend hhe M em b er for Meath (Mr. Grattan) rose after the and spinet the rescinding of the recent resolution passed by h' and allud e d t o certa i n measnre3 not immediately under the House. ycon sideratienof the House. Hon Member for Mr. FORSTER presented a petition, which. as well as we ann ee , a . to ,e'"ga nishire, upon the assumption that he wasto reply t could understand amidst the noise and confusion, was from 'ose extraneous observations of his Hon. Friend, up ' the underwriters of Lloyd's, which he said contained several tibs Th e wvoicillt?sted the rules of that Assembly.- ( Hear, h g l:e ' are) important facts, and the petitioners declared that it . whin , e''ll4fluen °f the Hen. Member were in . subst i anee t at, in force.le te carry on their business wnile the restriction na l s in Also another petition very numerously and highly deb ate ee of new matter having been introuuced, a new was generated. n. Gentleman. one would pew e thau g h t 'd -. s haveadd re himself to that and professional men, again respectably . signed by admira st le, th g e en n e e r w al r o e :i n c l e a r t s i , ot h i l;ysi a c l i s a o ns a , iirloe , evour at eras a r e • nb at h. ,S . rwould at least have made some reference to third petition from a place, the name of which we could not ho e • e utrom the Hon. Member fur Meath-that he would hear, to the same effect. ha Srtitied the pretended cause of his rising; but the fact Mr. DISRAELI presented a petition from a place in Bucks, je7t i V ti l did not even allude to it. Upon the main sub- . t . te ni• we believe, of the new regulation. Voted ;educed by his Hon. Friend (Mr. Grattan) the -e in - 1.1;. e ni ., GIBSON presented a petition from the meeting weah , s h 3 time and opportunity for discussion, but this he held . the night bsfore at the London Tavern, signed by the the ;e-s o nr a , ti t o liat he hoed the house would now be firm in chairman, against the continuance of the restriction. Wh en the le a 11111 Ch it had passed.-(Hear, hear.) But Sir E. BUXTON presented . a petition . in favour_ of the new arrangement, but whence it was impossible to hear, er e for a h on. Gentleman said we are tor a monarchy-we Sir J. PAKINGTON apprehended that Hon. Members re oas louse of Lords-we are for a House of Corn ho representing petitions desired that the debate should senti ete r n e ,P e rTnting the people, he only echoed the elan sal.o.,himself and his friends. But the Hon. Gentle- I go w on,w were it ep be ehjected-(Cries of "Order.") th e y ha n , , t U hat do you want ? " lie would tell him what Mr. I ' ROEBUCK said that it was not competent to the f en but which hail wanted that which they had often asked 1i0n. , , Member to speak and make oljectionsto pe! The SPEAKER had not observed that the H: at. I:l leaers e ht_e.n, w s il o i n ch bad net been conceded to them -they wantedn Member of the franchise.. It was now nearly twenty I was_ making, objections to the petitions, or that he was out sinc e .'!• n ee the P.eform Bill had been passed, and they had of order. Si- J. PAKINGTON said that it was not his intention to to the`gueotolten attempted to obtain a franchise more suitable make ' any observations on the petition. ha d hee le r ifl', l g !rents and wishes of the ovulation, but they for ehten i ened in almost every _instance. Even a proposal i _M sr uch confusion, and cries of "Go on," amidst which . M LOCKE rose. He said he felt himself placed in a month s , ( oten the period for the payment of the rates three 1 until af.'..°e'n ta lia n the original Period had not been cerried ! diPicu ' ll had a petition of importance to present that kaia th her. a gade of thirteen Years. The Hon. Gentleman Iw . a ' s of personal intereet to himself. Ile had certainly said, th e p _':: , it hehad been in Parliament hew s have opposed in the early i art of the evening, that if his motion could epitho'7?riti Bill ; let me ask him if he was always of that not come on between .. eleven and twelve o'cloc n k, o h n e tt w e ot o i p k ., l not press it fo, aa, d. Two or three Gentleme m...,,e,-(flear, hear.) si;n.l A L L olSlienELl intimated that he wan ' petite side had addressed him personally, and he had told ri Priei n re - Will the Hon. Gentleman 'wok my Hon. them he would not bring it on after eleven o'clock. 'The ei nahs e net Hama) in the face and say that he. has been i Hoa. Meraber. was proceeding, when disorder was renewed, hi - . „el that opinion? $, SR ELI- Certainly. ' ' . i during which .. Si r 1 Mr. COLiDEN presented a petition, but neither the pur `'ilio e s , • ''' - Certainly - Certainly ! Why the Hon. Gentleman ! port nor the name of the place from which it emaciated could at Iv stands forward• - one ras the great champion of protection , ' ' Sir R. INGLIS was understood to move that Mr. F. Mac be heard. thi s hhanne held opinions now entertained by Gentlemen ou ! . ' W ° t the House. The 1 kenzie be heard. r esolvede h are , .e. Hon. Gentleman s d l i in effect- „ , The SPEAKER put the question that Mr. Mackenzie be :, t , a ue!ermined upon the Reform Bill, an ' we have. 'heard.-(No, no, and go on.) a th ese a.. ? t it . strait be a final measure." Let me ask him The SPEAKER said that the Hon. Member for Honiton g 9 deivarttere always his principles ?- (Hear ) Did he , not I hadrisen when called upon to bring forward his motion, and kr. 0• 00 0 the borough el High Wycombe as the protjge cf . heapprehended was iii strict possession of the House. Ap- Re do n "ell and . Mr. Hume? -Hear, hea Did he not ; tle a l l under th •putoff l • mo ; peals Liao been made to the Hon Member to tem , n , reDid he not en- t lion, but the Hon. Member was in possession, and ought to •to present Marylebone? - (Hear.) Did he not , Dti , , go into Parliament have the option of proc - eding or not.-(Cheers.) Wnen ev es? for that borough on Liberal ,1 eh and ea .„, - (Hear.) Why, I can tell the Hon. Gentleman the Member sat down any other Hon. Member might Hen. fire s ' ttouee the ' ' in • s, and ~ e very shape which he framed his ad- speak. „eV eta, that place in which he wrote it ; and if I had any ela •• I - 1.1 LOCKErose again, but as the noise pretiented a word ee ae --• teat the debate . he uttered from being heard he resumed his seat. (Le' be en ere c pared would . have taken this turn, I would that excellent address.- ess - i Sir R; INGLIS then rose, but was received with a storm he tighter and • with a copy of ? of calls to order and for Mr. Locke, and " Chair, chair." `'! Leti tia , cries of "Hear." les, I can tell the lion. ‘ ~ , , , Wai neh a n of the place in which that address isubmitted that, after the I Sir R. INGLIS respectfully 4 eet it hed ' and I will t very I Laughter. lt wasin Crawford- I Speaker had called upon the lion. Member for lloniton, he 1 110 _ ryanston 00. -e ho of n. I I ) , e i had put another question front the chair-namely, " That Was • lielt h Gentlemane-sq°are' in the borough i ary e en . . and lel hi s ,_ u visited a tallow-chandler there, and it 1 the petitions do lie upon the table ?" Upon that question the Hen. Member for Droitwich rose, and, therefore, the e r h a On h se he wrote that address.-(Great laughter,. . Hon. Member for lioniton was not in possession.- (Much Peeti oih ut . Question.") Question! Aye but tlos is the ! cheering, and renewed confusion.) He took this ground 11 4 e l i . u ater, g )4111'11:ery ugly question it is too.-(Rene with the utmost respect to the Chair, that the Hon. Member n eth lte . t, hehhh, e sits the . lion.. Gentleman . (sahl i for limiter, had not that audience of the House . to which he ith °Wet i g to Mr. Disraeli), the champion rf the Pro ' would have been so well entitled if the intermediate question e had Lent}' -theta sits the lion. Gentleman-who says toe lt et nln the House, he would have voted against • hadnot been - t -(Cheers.) ph . . ee n4 I d ' The SPEAKER said that, accor on o e el' t th rules of the la si ,. w eh It yet that Benne lion. Gentleman went i ' House - no debate could arise on p , ,titions. The Hopi Mem f.4,. nei ne, „. 7 2,', nnbe under the auspices of my Hon. Friend ; b f ; Droitwich had risen to speak to that subject, and the Venal t "" of the late Mr. O'Connell, and put himself i er h 'We ° represent , respecting the petitions had been put. He had h. 8--(ni entinarylebone borouh on Liberel vin- _ question . . . Igil 'eel ' 1 -* of Question.") 1 h • the i I. es re- '`, aln cries "me • • Han. Member fur Honiton should thought it right that the .of . n dal Feet f to speak on the subject putting off , et ati „ or the talents of the lion. Gentleman ; but have the opportunity -44 L "g facts -facts in which,his motion, and he thought that Hon. Member was still in to_re anted Met _ poeses-ion.-(Hear, hear, and cheering.) If the House thre I. ine ;„ nber fir Nottingham (Mr. O'Connor) con ti - lthe debateshould not proceed further, any Hon. mug it e „ lam wrong -and 1 again assert that, under rose 1- -e and Member was at liberty to move the adjournment of the ~ a on seal of the Honourable Member for Mont- . "Na ti w age late Mr. O'Connell, the Honourable Gen- Ba . House. The question, however, that Mr. Forbes Mackenzie Patin)' the II „II down to High Wyc mbe. Ido not be heard must be first put. Patin 1"n• Gentleman " of Mr. A. HOPE attempted to address the House, but in Dies ut . went to the whole extent the . ei e .. , the Charter. Ido not say he was quite up to vain. is shag e, but that h ed nearly Mr. DISRAELI said a few worda, but was render . do ant •• -e was a decided Liberal, I think there done „,,,, evidence to rov . -(Q te-tion ) I have now 0 b , the buzz which prevailed. We understood hire inaudible 3 the n With the te, liht been kon of the , It Gentleman. 'There he now sits the ' tosay t _ that the n, _ ea s rotectionist party-the Hon. Member who said, that after r e . 1 ven o'clock he would not bring on the i l 'heeo eihe 4 ndidate for Marylebone-a candidate for High arrangements were made fur the motion. But when these arrangem "Nai l ;.„Ort . Liberal principles Iho ie the Hon. Gen- ' 'of Members the Home should,not be too severe coavenience ) 4 loteni n l ,',' , In the spirit of lii own prop ' hecy-that if the ii their interpretation. When the. House retur t n h e a d n fr a o t m uta ti o ie f ; I , s eotea hn"n.bee carried, we on this side of the House will be division it was eleven o'clock, an t el hi c n oneideri g required n a very long ;`,t3- so hrhnh electors -but meet nie on the bus: fags-and it, the question-which . he did not. later,k Ayr t on Mien that lea ma • meet that same tallow• chandlerwhat mattered ? it debate, if they did sr up a little . d etirsoetne-Ueaugliter and • " . . e) I will no t was much more desirab'e that the subject should be disposed peon i t ",, 14 question further, cries ofQuestion.") touched of than that they should all go away; and lie collected the !hali te the Hon nor would I have at all feeling a nee Ho - use to be teat the Hon. Member for Honiton n e „ r r eeh , , • Member had not in a most unusual, , . ~ No no " and "Go on.") H! bef ore t tneen the debate and gone into the whole sub- anatud speak.-( " , • . P. Frip , e House I ++ ill t the motion of my here arose, with cries of Sdll greater noise and confusion . , . ale - -aft th e si . l Filippo!' " Withdraw, withdraw." We understood Sir Robert Inglis hed w hit( ns ember for East Surrey. libl e '! t Ps th e n" 1 41 rtae, after a pause of a few moments- to refuse to withdraw his moti n that Mr. F. Meckenzie be le no . House will not think it obtrusive or objection heard, and that motion was then put from the chair, and '(Il '' i f I answer tried ar, h eath the questions of the Hon. Gentleman. negatived. 111 4 Qpl t i finti / o _ Ido not propo.se to offer any very length- Mr. LOCKE then rose, but Is as heard with difficulty Il ea 4a el wi t h a us of my conduct. What the Hon. Gen le- amidst the buzz and incoherent sounds which filled the at het" twe tny tiueh an air of originality was said in the moepherh of the House. feeling He said ' he would re-pond, to the trtaitt..a3sta. .. nes befor. The House may not remember best ot his ability, to the and wishes of the House, i t ., 4e ly wets ( Innen so insignificant a subject; it' they did, it and would detain them for as short a period as possible; for I4' hi s e ,_ quite unnecessary for the lion. Gentleman to he felt that at that time . _ of the e i ;aan a i e " a a,,rgee, or that I should give an•answer to them, that attention with which at a n earlier period of the evening te,'"atl 1", however to Corr t eerrors in matters uf correct some . . they might ossibly have favoured him. ~ lie a-sured the lit._ trust the fl ' ou House, however, that the stoppage of the I ost-office was a Wien •( Hear i ee will hear use whilst I explain ti ne gin h i ,, , near,) t , , I ' The Hon Gnitleman was entirely t subject of very great importaiece, an -d one that demande n d s a o the Plac e ", "'bolo statement, larger and much more careful consideration than the . Hu I never - was a candidate (Jr i lee(lrowil'en the meritiof.t he Re orin Bill were in ques- li had y« t bestowed. The House might be ae l au b re t d ,. t t hni o n nt a i n o y n . Geri ore waalepalaeheering, and cries of " Hear, hear.") ' I That remarks .. he might bl make Ice theha o d no n n o r t ai)itt Li e g mb e er, but this any l e i gt att alleend at the period to which the Honeurable 1 of imptiting nme nee eve b ee es--(Renewed ironical cheers.) Whatever 1 much he . would say, that ial i r .he day on which the debate on nee and, nth - -(n e i ca ‘' a n always coneistentiv °noosed to the be a day on which some races were held, c on se quen tly , House. Miley Hon. I ''g ha ' t '` Heir h ~ ' •• • • • Reform there was a thin attendance in the . al w4 . Part and : , . ear. ) I was in opposition to the eleinbers, therefore, had been taken by surprise.-(Hear.) entert.s3ie ea rnehe 'n :;.pposition from no interested motives- : Th Nimble Lord the Member for Bath had undoubtedly made 4r1,1,r, meal ( he 'as 01 the opinions I have done to-night-I I , . e . saw a n 'Y opi e ieT as the traditionary., hietorical, legiihnate. I his statemera. with great moderation, and however much be 1 b in opinion with him as to the ap aght greet , h a ns of the peodle of tins country, and when I (Mr. Teee'he, might differ dad • there ti n or wrung,e !once] movement made by a er ' t •to which, plication of the rules he . laid doyen, . could be no hree.ets whets I waiopposed, I gave utterance to my sen-, doubt of the i urine , and charity of his motives, or of the ino iihst!gs, as "f . 1 the Reform Bill Was proposed I 000sed the 1 deration with which de had propounded his-views to the th e ( lties l i sa uo now, Hone. The Noble Lord had dwelt much upon the great I oppomd the %Whig ' settlement of reaae'i'seritey acre( (clear, hear its number of pet ititions which had been presented to the House ) -and I only accepted it bees e Poses , totati •nt . ed inn (Chtere.) init the lion. Gentle- in favour of the views he advocated. He ( t.o r. oo L t o o c J;),tmeata hieat or thal y netaken wh-ii he says that lam new op- not prepared to deny the number of petitions dee 'bec ause S ever at any tiine was - o posed to that settle- Let, or to deny that the greater number might .. be ' the be re e d e how ie n h 4th at / :hetrWanin favour of Parliepmentary fi na li ty . I : siee of the Noble Lord ; but . a.....hen i it t was toa rtr ( l ti le e .n ar hear)_ rests„ W OW(' j ust ,P l anything in this House or out of it e say was the process of gettera h up N l i I • petitions-(Hear, justified in con tain:gem, flu "en the Hon. Gentleman it making that he doubted whether th_e-Ilo b ese to her f e °a the 4a d I went down to the borough of W • a ' basis for settlina such sidering the greatness of num er aerie . . le , • •e ree o ) • l this-( Hear, hear) accepting sue 1 a test hOO or 111olitro min, ndation of in Ilan. Friend the Diem- a question as 44 f t be rn to j'' W ha, I lived in thati mu eh ; I was bred of pubic opinion. These i petitionswer not the safest guides the e Noble Lord and tee tilt roo t eh h er t let t in legislation, and he WOU c d remind how incidentsw ;and Eisen this ci o rcuiu 6 stance, as well it was, to set in ea:,eanty i n ni, it is I believe that I now represent House how easy it was, uh dangerousof the conventicle as to the 4 , th e p nich that boron •I is (II ar )As to motion the organized machinery b, , . ath 'cm. (rent' , i situated. this coun.r • - e ' ' peculiar mode of Sabbatical o ..ereanees in , 3. rot , e tallo w , , eman says about Maryleboae borough 1 t te ge, th, Hun, enandler I w• 11 That ho- 1 (Cheers.) The proceedings of those who once set that ma keTh ' did not he is, arohr I hrOtlet: by some dwell . tin. now re re_ ehinery in action was moot unjustifiable. e O 3 ns who did Prio ll e ?, w repil e a , re 8 , 4 5,' by the aid of that Ft3ill chanceowye hen d 1 e r whom and this nen:Pall supn' ..- ". lau gh) -although Ihe is his ' , riot choose to subscribe to their_ pee 1 o 0 eti on e roller._ (g eth , ~ , - dare say last ' he had ihe could prove to the House. During thesession b re y e ~ .ou the circumstances, 'tea laughter.) I have no re f,lt it his duty to call the attention of the House to the su - Pr se wire man except that I believe I ern- .L• of . 1 , ex,„, t on in thi s • oPeaking generally, I can recall no ex- J ect rai wae communication an Sundays, and he had made e n ea r Phr a s es address a motion respecting lines of railway not running trains on I cannot of. •answer for the h. opi n i oes e - which i 3 not in , _ t eourne, ht theh. that day. At that time the same active machniery was at pi es th e a.i o , I h ave ohiimse. _perfec l u d nisr . w i h . p, „ work, and be had received several letters . on the subject, the lis h l . t , io n t4 l , ' e ' n .nate of parlianidenhtere. finality se h ann T l tt ae t in , g e t e i e le r tenor of which provei to him the mischief that was pro l'ittlihe frieron by e the Noble Lord ar eLor Russel a l) N a ‘ t as t his 1 duced by such agency. A short extract . from one . of' these . he n ie hnee nta h'. s I repeat, I was opposed . to that system of would read to the House, merely as an instance of the vicious s ead ts o e th3er settlement, motives and feelings which actuated men w . lin resorted to , because it was o oeed to the in- ' in e eco n fa in Party with those means for influencing or coercing the °pinups and col!, which I was con P r P iected and not ' 'Th e h °t fern?' mind to the true interests of the county }•. e I duct of other men. and of the spirit that prevailed on this ees °Pini oh er notice those ludicrous •' - .n . question. The Hon. Member then read the following extract ear o s I upheld • mierepreeentati ms. . 're it t o in , h , In my youth I now maintain, and will from the et er .- 1 t • "Although lain not personally acquainted "e Worthen'°ld•--(C) . 1 with you, nor have ever seen you, but as I hear and read in divided, when there appeared- I the papers about you, and see the way you want to disturb motion 100 our peaceful land, Scotland-my conscience compels me to Th Against. it ... .• •.. ... 159 write you against the cursed Bill you want to pass in The rnotio,..ilajoriy again; the -••• 59 motion,., - Parliament for compelling railways to run on Sub . was accord' I bath, and to carry second and third•class passer'. ing ,e lost. kr. A 3 to JAL e ger& 1 will demand of you, and answer me as phn NaTE-h• then A ND FOREIGN COFFEE. in Scripture doctrine (if you are able), are you and s o led to i n • moved that a Select Committee be I really thinking that you are greater than your Maker, who 4 1.4. re ign hacrtre into the declining state of the colonial 1 the whole universe? Are you making a law of your !ho ni e ; and whet coffee, and of the public revenue thence 1 made set the hol • law of Enod at detiatice? Do you want to the i s pra ct i se nether such decline is attributable to any ' own to day tit, ' p eat /n ear "' ,bY the sellers ofcoffee,d as to rob us of the which holy God gave us to rest upon and to 'ef ceee ' 8 °I preventi , or others, an keepworship that • holy ? D , you want to rob God of the ° e ll e whi h e e e entered f no such frauds. In 1846 the quan- due to Him on that day ? Do you want us to become agents "' 3 2o e • the dut • or foreign export was 51,813,65i1b5., for the devil because you are one? Do you think that th s •506 i ns 3 was 7 86,654/. In 1819 the quantity was ni . ( latie t i f •, uPon which rho you are a geld yourseit ? Do you think that you will rule al e • Y entered f u, duty was 643,218/. In 1846 y over us like the-Pope of Rome? Do you want to turn the n hs , in B4n . or home consumption was 36,793,0611b5. kingdomf Gel into a kingdom of devils' It to me Of "le °W i n, " 1 ! had sunk to 84 434 0941b5• During the °• • • and aa nal ten • neriod there was decrease''in • - • that you think all these. 0, may open your • eyes r nele, ee, while there w s a the consumption let you see your error, and make you wise (for indeed you ee halel ei as an increase of' the fictitious d. n't appear to be wise enough when you take anything to :erred the eLACKALL seconded the '0 He do with the law of God). Don't you hear God . crying them haliehiathientffee planters of Ceylon, whonldnetsiir motion, that nrepdries: Heaven to you, saying , O, do not this abominable r th i tal The " n ir3? shouldlllY ,should be levied n chicor but tVatosorne which I hate?_ Now, , what vi r o s ia t t l i i n is abominable iasial% _ o t D you n ' think t'a eats. rntias,_ealere place into the sudden depression in coffee. .God says here? ItisNOU n ee ta u s e`h-e,, S ohe 25.000 to 30 000 acres of land, with a you are able to contend with Gof? You . want to force eaooo / I, zen,oo, /. embarked ' andt Y t t deprove people from God to serve sa an. ou wan o . eee ni 0 • or 400•0Z0/and , a 3 . outlay f •early o - them of their resting day, Art thou more just than God in i n th e „hi m Of '' were, therefore, entitled to be fee h e Clikein i ' et • You are crucifying the Saviour a second time. You want , e t E., v an.. ELLOR of the You need go no to rob him of his glory } . Have you never read the it u n .." .. the Hon Gentleman's bcok of the law °flied? Knowest thou not that God worked I sere cneae., e Committee own statements to show six days himself, andrested on the seventh day. and he corn here aamifteh...,walint would be. When the facts (lie r eu ggested : it • were they to inquire about? Remedies d 1 his creatures to do the same? not man aline he man e( d d but also the beasts of the field that work ill a e t.. ) ne wonldl‘ita.:t ett(rnitted they were _applicable.- f c o o r in t r i . o e n man. thus,He saw that they would need a day of rest, Int o t nrlner occasion. li t into the arguments he had used and the gave them a seventh portion of time to rest from all b e k r _ne manner in which the r t o t tseu an excise inquisition their earthly labours; and he said unto them, 'Remember Th ,a month was over have the l'as carried on, he would the Sabbath day to keep it holy.' It is a day made for man' to the irninution which had been refersvole country in a flame. • • ha t lntleortatiof foreign ed to was attributable it is aday or f the worshipping of God particularly ; all at at tuts on Pro tuts period of the session the ' n conclusion he said prove to a e I nquiry the Sabbath command was given to the children of Israel, Ai r „ s e a most. bootlegs one.- (Hear • proposed would Co • ttt• GIBSON agreed it would b .' , they were bound to keep it under penalty of death. Your Ivirnmittee •doings vex my soul greatly, for I entirel3- disapprove of your i but -‘, had been e use•ess to appoint a . the h e _ha a reinedh._ stuggested in a petition Bill. If you would send a 8 . 111 before Parliament to stop al 4 4 e dut y o v n 'e,sen . ted, which was, that tater ehould equal 8- railways running on Sunday :n Great Britain, then I would Prete ut i„ foreig n and colonial coffee. e . Coloniel coffe e b a n' ! not only be pleased with you, but would pray God for a bless ,et the Cg, (nay of 50 per cent., and it kept out of the' i mar_ i rug on your head • but since you have actedquite the reverse, "or t 'gn. flew) ff and chicory was ti .1 • '- • - '• ' spiritual lti i l. CWI,, ane flavoured co ee, they le eel with t he lin try to establish a carnal law against the law (lie ie .prinhoe ee Ceylon, They declared. of h _ n., a _ confidence s tat . God, my prayer will be for a curse on your head as movie sold, the re 9. free trade.-(Cries OL,.011. "; (wive long as you centinue in your evil practices, and on every oat Lat ritieh farmer the benefit of buying his c o ffe e one else that is of the same mind as yourself." That (sSie n.ueilingithurdened with'protection. I letter was °nil , a sampleof the man • of the same . . ) eoatiel YE L •of chicory._ I kind which 1• d It eater.) i t r e said he was a grower had come to him during the year. [The i reading b r ietai 3hen was considered a profitable crop.-(Laughter.) g u of i the ter. Passage paesage was received with much laugh. n,,,gie h i,"haolttreat amount of labour, for the purpose ef : ing the IZ,lliZtra.liudee to this letter for the purpose of warn ennnie t i„,,"S ‘ he market in a proper state.-(Hear.) Up 1 voting fur the ord and his supporters in these opinioes, that put a a ni 7 . n! a Chancellor of the Exchequer bad refused to peculiar doctrine of and practical enforcement of this i h hed to ,';'. i t ," e F: ),_ n e 1., It was used with coffee, as it was sup- 1 sible good, and wouldef Sabbatical observance could do no pos taantad sn ood the Mocha flavour.-(Laughter ) He repeated 1 hear)-and toaltowonly end in a violent re-action-(Hear io.ittatter , byin. Then as to the price, it was , r 1 iinpor- dangerous question vrh° puhlic men who entered upon this ..Prised u „... 1 _ 11 toe c onsideration of this subject. As to being ! 1 whom this agitation wasetca"nt of persons they were by e o o f ; nenn'Sn s the agriculturists suffered in the pu chase of ; 1 to move WAS as follows: -hriiied on.. The resolution he had a " s e n_e i.t but f l ou r as the use of chicory was concerned, the ledges with satisfaction the i, whilst thin House acknow nh.2 r ifll attic] fund beneficial to the poor, who got thereby ' s dov labour effected by the diminution in the amount of ah reen os eh e than they otherw - 11 bt • I?' . s . „ tin .„ _ , recent arrangements in the b a t , te at i the E uhe Ise eon k!) ant e • eon 1 ost-effice, it cannot . ut .e sensible of the put' . ' • PPosit e interest would cbleneje became an agriculturist him- 1 vecience which has amen from the total cessation le oitren- Alr, ANe „, better protected upon the benches delivery or collection of letters on Sundays The ° IEY • , and that any e lieus replied. humble address be therefore presented to he DI • an For n, e then divided I r an Y, pray ing that she will be graciously pleased to cause an inqiiirito Age' e motion , ev len there appeared met i t •. „., h be made, whether the amount of Sunday labour might not ... ~. 60 be reduced without c moletely putting an emit to the collee su,„ Majori . t . y . "• ••• n. ... 206 lion and delivery of letters, fee., on Sundays; and that, pend ohnnliAle jtp r ,,,, ••• ... „„ ~,___l4s • mg such inquirs, • •- - her Mejesty will be graciously pleased to k i n tit ular r eem ehe is ten. e ATIONS IN THE POST-OFFICE, l ive orders that the collection and delivery of letter,, s in ,, r esol ut e turn of 134 ' I P te the gallery • televen ' ' f. Sundays, shall be continued as heretofore." In the first tea ni enon o f. Ihh . r• Locke had -1 was . o clock, on the ing of v ieli he had • ' arrived to bring forward the place he would say that .h her Majesty's Government had not endelatnernae recent ee ho i nf 4" en . "two, for the virtual re- received that credit for reducing the . amount of labour in justly entitled the i„ ~r. e 0 a a r e Sund ay _ s .et o t ns in the Post-office regarding Post- efiice on Sundays to which they wereJ - t i' la t t he i n i,T a i t s , 1 )4Achall4r‘s and newspapers, ( Hear, hear.) The Noble Member for 13 ' ath had ;d -al:IL t he lieu: noise and • was upon his lege, speaking ntitted, indeed, that great efforts had . been I made, and n r , "Oar._ ,„ e would __. r union, and exprtssing the hope great good had been etlected by those exertions, b the flt u l' d d e , mg it „f eke° arm.) nentp oeeed with the motion at so I. t t d•th t the a e 'legate amount of good they .a ony 'Go on ~,"'rare fef rue Hon. Move had • ae s rot% 3 a en, , , nai eh , " N e , n ,er ten or eleven r said he would not had not been preperly or sufficiently )laced before the public t_o• several Hem°' and o'clock.-(nOe oh •" who seould become better acquainted with the great I t -educ eld not obi. u nn.. , great confusion, • t ' • 1 an a ,. ,‘, h e n! °era tried to not b e l l L AGLis " s_.ing.) address the House, but Post-oflice labour. The lion. Member here quoted extracts Ii ad o n th e 'ln tha t a full t . • in order to show the • from the report of Mr. Rowland Hill, o'clo c k a ver had sa a l ton at that ;wt.] fair discussion could great extent of the reduction of labour in the in nay-order 4„,_ n _t_nighf,_(,. (lo e ( Wouhl ho L t l°l s . l r . of the night. The department of the Post dike. On this point Mr. Hill said "4'l Henenrable Go g' ) on ." Jing it on after elevcn -" St ill I watt of (pillion that with whatever inconvenience er a then ' • ) • • the improvements might be attended, they would be ac- Preiented petitions for cepted by the public if accompanied by auothez measure TUE STJV, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVElqiNer; conferring an equivalent advantage, an opinion which, not withstanding some complaints, has, on the whole, been jus tiLd by the result. Such a measure, as your Lordship will remember, was at that time under consideration, and hal long been regarded as a desideratum, viz., the transmission of the forward' letters through London oa the Sunday, with a view to their delivery en the Monday morning, a measure which I felt confident might be effected, not only without any addition to Sunday labour, but even, when taken in all its bearings, with a great reduction thereof. Even in the London office, on which alone the labour of such transmis sion would fall, I saw reason to believe that in the event the total amount ot Sunday labour, so far from being increased, would be actually diminished by the improvement. I need not remind your Lordship how fully this anticipation has been confirmed by experience. With these views I pre pared, under yourlordship's instructions, the minute of the 3d of February, 1849, submitting the combined measures, of closing the provincial offices throughout England and Wales on the Sunday, as a general rule, from ten o'clock to five; of restricting their Sunday deliveries in all cases to' one, and, on the other hand, of providing for the transmission on the Sunday of the forward' let tees through London, s' as to be delivered on the Monday." There was an epitome of the whole report in an able article in the last number of the Quarterly Review, to which he requested the attention of the House- Tee Honourable Member then read the following extract:—" On the 7th of January, 1849, the money order Sunday business was finally suspended throughout England and Wales, thus suddenly relieving 450 provincial poet-offices; on the Ist of April, 1849, the Auspmsion of the money .order Sunday business was extended to Ireland and Scotland, thus re-' lieving 234 additional offices; on the 28th of Octobee, 184 P, the provincial post-offices throughout England and Wales were not only as a general rule-closed on Sunday from ten o'clock to five, but their deliveries on that day were restricted to one. By these measures 508 provincial post-offices were closed for about three additional hours. In 191 post towns, 233 deliveries were discontinued, and 3CB letter-carriers re• lieved of one hour and a half each of Sunday duty. On the 29th of December, 1549, in the suburbs of London, beyond the three-mile circle, the early Sundae , delivery was trans ferred to a very late delivery on Saturday night, by which 191 persons were entirely relieved from Sunday duty; on the 13th of January, 1850,in the provincial post-offices through out England and Wales, further extensive relief was given 1, by the discontinuance of a large number of Sunday mails; 2, by the disuse of money pre-payments for all inland letters, by which restrictions 576 provincial post offices and about 4,000 dependent offices were closed on an average for four additional hours." The effect of the several measures adopted by the Post-office had been to relieve every Sunday upwards of 6,000 persons, on an average, for five hours and a half each.—( Hear, hear,) Those general reductions were in the act of being made when the Noble Lord the Member for. Bath introduced his meesure to the House, and when.the House, forgetting all that had been done and was being done, stopped the entire postal service of the country on Sundays, in the expectation that Sunday labour would be slopped at the same time. He (Mr. Locke) was strongly of opinion there was no reduction of Sunday labour. There might be the shifting of labour from one class of employes to another, but there was no re duction in the amount of labour necessary for carrying on the required communication of the country. (Hear.) It was true that letters and newspapers must remain in the Post office until Monday morning, but arrangements were made for the employment of persons to deliver newspapers totally distinct from the Post-office. The railway companies had set the example of carrying newspapers to every station of the line, and had them delivered on Sunday. In the great towns of Liverpool and Manchester, and in ether towns, there was a distinct class of persons organized to deliver newspapers. (Hear, hear.) In a letter from Mr. Heywood it was stated that he was ready to establish boys, like the Post-, flies, for the delivery of letters. In a letter from Williner and Smith, of Liverpool, they stated that they would deliver newspapers by their own messengers on the Sunday morning.— (Hear.) He also begged to refer to another communication from a correspondent in the Times, who stated that be and his father for thirty years had been booksellers and news paper agents, and that they never had sold any newspapers on the Sunday. The newspapers were sent to the sub scribers, and they visited them for the cash ; but now they had to employ several messengers to go about the town and perform what had been done by four postmen. Then there were placards posted on the walls stating that newspapers would be delivered; tmd'there was scarcely a beershop in the town that was not taking in Sunday newspapers under the new regime.—(Hear, hear.) Could any one doubt that by the division of labour it was necessary to employ a larger amount of persons than were employed when the business was conducted through one channel? But that was not all. Those facilities were open only to the rich.—(Hear, hear.) The poor man could not get a special messenger or send par cels by the railway train.— (Hear, hear.) He begged to read an extract from the letter of a surgeon, who stated that he came from the country to attend a funeral which was to have taken place on Monday, but on his arrival be found a letter had been cent to him, stating that the funeral was postponed to Tuesday. The consequence was, that during his absence one of his patients died. He (Mr. Locke) also called attention to a letter from the superintendent ot a 'unatic institution, stating the difficulties that would arise in communicating with the relatives ot patients under the new system. He likewise read a letter from a medical gentleman referring to the hardship which that system would cause to the poor in cases of sickness, and a letter from Dr. Laycock, of York, to the same effect.—(Hear, hear.) A letter posted on Saturday afteruoon would not be delivered until the Mon day morning following, though the destination was only a few miles, and that delay would be felt throughout the whole country.— (Hear, hear.) The morning mails would be only available to the extent of 200 miles, and the detention of the delivery beyond that extent must cause serious inconve nience. A vessel sailing from tire Thames callel at certain places on the court, at Dover, Plymouth, and other places, to receive dispatches, and that vessel might sail on a Sunday, or a vessel from Hull might sail on Sunday, and in such cases Urn passengers often availed themselves of the Sunday night's mail to communicate with their friends, but that ad vantage was now taken from them, and it should not be• taken away on light grounds.—( Hear, heir.) hut is the Noble Lord to limit the application of this measure to the Post-office ? Why not comprehend other public depart tnents and private establishments? Why were doines.tic ser vants to be deprived of that rest which was essential for the Post-office?—(Hear, hear.) Because, if they asserted that principle in its entirety, the whole country would see the extent of the mischief, and that it would, in fact, overturn the whole framework of staiety.— (Hear ' hear.) How, he asked, were they to rest on the Sabbath , and what was the rest they were to enjoy? Was it relaxation, or fa mily intercourse, or innocent recreation ?—( Hear, hear.) It was the preparing a the mind for great religious and moral impressions —purifying the heart by the contemplation of God's works, and resting from labour—stirring up in the mind the precepts of Christian charity and duty, on which a man may meditate during hours of toil—that was the rest of christianized and humanized men, and constituted that so. t of society that made families happy, communities contented, and nap ions free and prosperous. In conclusion he begged to move the resolution. Mr. ROEBUCK seconded the resolution. and did so be• cause he had not had an opportunity of expressing any opi nion with respect to the resolution that had been passed by the House. He took it that those persons who had aided in passing that resolution had been actuated by one of two opinions. One opinion was, that the matter was a religious matter; the other wes, that it was one of mere policy and convenience. When they came to discuss the matter those opinions crossed one another, and, as the disputants might happen to be affected, each opinion was employed in refe rence to this subject. He would take the liberty to separate theta, and bring them, as far as he could, clearly and defi nitely before the. House, and would ask the House upon which of the two, or upon both, they were determined to rest their decision.—(Hear.) Directly and broadly he would assert, that as a religious question the House of Com mons had no right to deal with it. He had been told by those who claimed for themselves the right to express an opinion to the House that their opinion was that the House had no right to thrust down the throats of laymen a religious opinion.—(Hear.) Who would come forward to vindicate that right? Was it the Dissenters of this country? Were they, of all other men, to do so, who instructed their repre sentatives to come to that House and say there should be no State Church, and who asserted also that there should be perfect freedom of religious opinion?— (Hear. ) How could these very men sign petitions insisting that it was the duty of the House to enforce what they called the observance of the Sabbath?— (Hear, hear.) Now he (Mr. Roebuck) de nied totally.that the Sabbatn was known to the Christian religion.—(Hear, hear.) He spoke it seriously and gravely.—(Hear, hear.) He was not speaking there fcr the purpose of exciting any opinion but that of conscientious and deep concern for the interests of the country, and he asserted that so far as Great Britain was concerned, Cris was not a question within the competence of the House of Commons, for it was not the Jewis:l Sabbath they were endeavouring to enforce, it was the. Christian Sunday—a thing very dif ferent from the Jewish Sabbath—(Hear, hear) —and none of the canons against the breach of the Jewish Sabbath could be properly directed against any act performed on the Christian Sunday.- (Hear, hear.) If he wanted an autho rity, he could go back to the great fathers of the Protestant Church, beginning with Luther and going on to Calvin and other authorities of that Church; and every one of them said that the Christian Sunday was what the Church called a feast day—it was not marked by ascetic observances, it had nothing to do with the Biblical Sabbath, it was a day of rest, a day set apart for human obsrevances and for hu man purposes, and upon human grounds Inc was to justify his proof of . that assertion.—(Hear, hear.) He did not pre tend to argue with any other man respecting his religion— with that he had nothing to do; it was a question for him and the great Author of his being, he had no desire to inter fere with them, and would that the same humility would persuade other men to abstain from forcing their opinions upon others. - (Hear, hear.) The second matter was the political observance of the state; and he came to it with a full knowledge of the great benefits which mankind derived from a day of rest. Every marl wino worked with anything like seriousness or consecutivness with head or hand no st be grateful to an institution that gives him peace one day in the seven. No man could more fully understand the value of such a day than one who belonged to his profession; and if what that tl f) a r t meant. Let it no t be him.— (H ear , h ear. ) an bservance was established that gave him rel axa ti on on the seventh day, he was m o st humble and grateful fo r s b u u c t il letmeansthem understand bdeienrgstanpdruei: run away with by a word or a name, and let them ask what they wished to consider as rest.—( Hear, hear.) Rest to the body and to the mind to the largest number of the commu nity to whom it can be afforeed.— (Hear, hear.) How could it be afforded to the largest number? There were certain works of absolute necessity, that could not be got rid of; but necessity was a narrow word.—( Hear, hear.) Then came:that which mankind might consider trot altogether a matter of need or necessity, but of habits become almost such. - (Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord talked of the work of postmen on Sunday—that he would discuss presently.-- (Hear, hear.) Where was the difference between the post. man's work and the labour of the servant, who in the morning laid with parade their Sunday's breakfast table, and 'who prepared the coach to go to church, and brought it back again fur that humble servant of the Lord who had ridden to church to pray ? (Hear, bear.) How many of them who had signed the petitions had confined themselves to the necessities of the Sabbath?— ( Hear, hear.) IVlrat were the necessities of the Sabbath ? A healthy man required a crust of bread and a glass of water for his - food for twelve hours. Was there any man who con fined himself to that? (Hear, bear.) There is an lion. Gentlem an oppos i te w h o i s a t th e b ea d o f a l a rge br ew i ng in . S a c n m a a a i e fe ? r — o I( necessity i h r e ‘ a p r. ) It I u n .1; ,(1 . t w u er a e it t i hey workers concern, and he w an t e d t o k no w from trim if they malted oa a siting required eight d a y s, and that i f , • said g t s l o r ; v as necessary to give the communii y good beer, therefore M eux and Co. malt on a Sunday.— (Laughter.) And fu ther than that, he wanted to know how many public-houses (Oh, ob.) Had he -es men open in which beer was sold. works of necessit, not a right to illustrate an argument upon allusions.)— Ife j r [An Hoer. Blamnsa—Not by personal Mem bers of teat House— .o,t.know that Meux and Co. were Metn vain hypocrisy, not, of augh)— but Inc knew there was much world; and that that whicerrse, in that House, but in the was called necessity, when we spoke of things which touched' ourselv es , b eeeme muc h m ore imaertant when it a ff ected work of necessity ? The poor man interests. But what was a in the week. His education wa s worked b ar d f or s i x d a ys a in that Reuse, The mere wr i ti n g not like th a t o f gen tlemen of a letter for a working r i man was a matter of trouble, it cost him time; but he wrote it on his day of rest. Take the case of a factory worker, I employed from six to six, managing to write a letter to his wite, or some member of his family in the country. He wrote it upon the Sundry. According to the old system he deposited it in the Post-office on the Sunday, or, as the case might be, receiv e d hi s l e tter on the Sunday. There was no such thing now.—(Hear, hear.) But with regard to the education of the poor man, it was im possible he could be all day -at church; or that his mind could be dedicated for so many hours to religious observance. Which then was the best—that he should have a Sunday paper, or go to the potheuee? The pothouse was open, but the newspaper box was shut; and he might not hays his newspaper, though he might have as much gin as he liked. (Hear, hear.) Then it, was said that the new system was an abridgment of Sunday labour; but, he asked, did it abridge Sunday labour? As he had already said, it was the duty of the State to secure the greatest qnantity of real rest for the largest portion of the people ; but how was that to be done? By combination, and by employing the great arts which had been discovered for facilitating intercourse, which had made towns nearer to each other than villages in their suburts were formerly. - Liverpool was nearer London now than Highgate was a hundred years ago, through the use of those same means, why, then, should we be pre vented from enjoying the advantage of these great dis coveries? The Post-dike was a eheitp, easy, and expeditious messenger for th e l e tters of tha poor man. To shut it up, then, for a time, was to prevent the poor man, during that time, from availing - himself of that cheap, easy, and expeditious mode of rending his letters. Let the man be placed 100 miles from London, with his family in the metropolis. He was taken suddenly ill on the Satutday night, and evelybody knew how . sudden were such visitations; but tie next day, being Sun ay, he could not send a letter through the post to communicate his condition to his family. But if he were a person who was rich, he could dispatch his servant by the railway. The railway car ried the rich man's servant, who was his messenger; but the railway would carry a hundred thousand letters which m'ght be so many messengers for - poor men.— (Hoar, hear.) But the poor man was cut off from all possibility of sending his message, and he was obliged to linger, away from his family, unable to communicate with them, just because a pharasaical House of Commons had said the Post-office should be closed upon the Sunday. They had, however, been told that the House had been taken by surprise. The word was a very happy one. Though they voted for the resolution, a large number of Members never believed It would ever be carried into execution— (Hear)—and he believed the only surprise had been perpetrated by the Noble Lord at the head of the Government.—(Hear.) The Noble Lord took the House at its word; he accepted an unexpected majority for a defined and positive opinion; he had put it into effect; and the Noble Lord had done great evil (as we understood) by so doing. But it was said there wera many petitions for the change. Yes; there came the clergyman and the minister with," Will you not sign the petition against postal labour on the Sabbath ?" and down went the name. The petition then came up to the House of Commons. " What are you going to do?" said one Member to another. To which he replied, " I know it will not be carried, so I will vote for it."—( Hear, hear.) Unluckily it bad been carried.-(1-1e,ar, hear.) He must say he had now, for twenty years, seen the question fought in that House with a full belief that it would never be carried; but it had been carried, and - the very people who had signed petitions for it—hutdreds and thousands of them—now turned round and said they never contemplated such would be its consequences.—(Hear, hear.) He appealed to Hon. Gentlemen on both sides whether they had not in converse with Members of that H use, and in converse out of the House, frequently heard the statement, "I never be lieved it would be carried, and I could not believe that such would be the consequence of it."—(Hear hear.) What was it then, which had been done ? Why, all that had been done was this—that a letter arriving at its destination lay there the whole of Sunday without being delivered. The railway travelled upon the Saturday night and the Sunday night, but the letters would not be delivered until Monday. The only persons, therefore, who were freed from labour were the deliverers of the letters. By the combination and arrangements of the Post-office a very few persons had been enabled to do the duty of delivery upon Sunday ; but, wanting those arrangements and facilities which the Post office necessarily acquired, a great number would rudely do that which the Post-office had done well ; and, so far from abridging labour on Sunday, it would be multiplied fivefold, But there was yet another step. By Act of Par . liament society had been' told there was one thing which they should not do, and that was to carry a letter. Now, the ordinary habits of society would induce the public to say "You are not justified in inter fering with the free exercise of men's liberty; and what is there to justify the State in saying that a sheet of paper folded in a peculiar way, and addressed in a par ticular manner, shall not be carried except by the State ?" But what did the State, on the other hand ? Whilst prohi ' biting individuals from carrying letters it undertook to carry them itself ; and therefore if he could prove he had de rived injury fairly and clearly from the arrestation of his letters by the order of the Post-office, he had a fair action against the party who had so injured him. What, how ever, was taking place, and this affected the moral part of the question? The onourable Member for Houiton had read scope adyez tisements-announcing the measures that in• dividuals we e taking in consequence of the closing of the Post-office on Sunday; for, could any body think that this moving energAie society would be " cribbed, cabinned, confined " by a resolution like that which had been carried ? Not at all ; for society would be obliged to do rudely that which the Post-office did well, which would re quire the employment of five men where only one was employed before.—(Hear, hear.) Looking, therefore, at the question in a practical point of view he asserted that the House t f Commons bad no right to inflict such a resolution upon the community; and if any man said i was one for the observance of the Sabbath, he denied his right to make that assertion, and declared it was nothing less than re ligious bigotry. The House had nothing to do with the re ligious question; then it came to a question of political exi genet'. On this point it was clear that the pretence of abridging labour upon the Sunday was leading to a direct and positive increase of it. That increase would progress from week to week; and It would gradually break up all the arrangements of the Post-office. It would eventually shake that institution to its base, for when once the people had been taught to look to themselves for the carriage of letters, great difficulty would certainly be found in inducing them to return to the Poet office.- (Hear.) Lord ASHLEY said it was by no means his intention to enter into the length and breadth of this question, because he considered it already to some extent decided. (Hear, and some cries of " Oh, oh.") The House hid adopted a re so:ution upon the subject. The resolution so adopted had been carried to her Majesty under the advice of her respon sible Ministi:rs, her Majesty had givenorders for the closing of the Post-office, and he ( Lord Ashley), in the name of those he represented, demanded that a full and fair trial should he had of that resolution. Let the House consider how the _ _ _ question stood. The resolution was carried on the 30th May, and shortly aftirwards the Minister of the Crown de clared her Majesty's intention to carry its terms into etf,ct. But within twenty days after the order having been given for the closing of the Post-office, a proposition was made to rescind the resolution • and he wished to ask whether within so short a period anybody could undertake to say a full, fair, and sufficient trial had been given ? Let the House see the manner in which it had been brought into operation. Let them read the terms in which the order was couched. Let him, too, call attention to an almost unprecedented matter in the history of Parliament. A question was asked from a Minister of the Crown, whether certain facilities would be given for the purpose of carrying the resolution into effect, when not only was the answer that no facilities would be given, but a very strong opinion was expressed by the Mi. nister that petitions should be got up and presented to the House to reconsider its decision.—(Hear, hear.) He there fore maintained that there had not been a full, fair, and satisfactory trial of the re so l ut i on. T he num b er of signa tures to the petitions presented in its favour had been very nearly 700,00), whilst those presented against it amounted to only 3 ,509 ; and the number presented in its favour, since • notice had been given of an intention to rescind the order, had been as ten to one against, compared with those for it. Surely, then, some strong grounds were requi re d to call upon the House to re vere a deci-ion of such a nature; and he asked the House whether either the mover or the seconder of the proposition had adduced any facts to shake, in the slightest degree, the previous opinion of the House? Wh.re was the inconvenience, and to what extent did it prevail, of the existing system? True a certain number of instances had been quoted, but none to counterbalance the great comfort which had arisen from it. There had been no deputations from the great towns pointing out commercial inconvenience; but, on the contrary, there had been deputations pointing out the great benefit which had resulted from it, and praying the Govern ment not to be a party to rescind the resolution.--(Hear, hear.) The facts, therefore, did not prove inconvenience ; but they showed this, that iithose who wished to rescind the resolution were true to their own principles they must open the Post-office in London..— (Hear, hear.) Every evil that had been quoted in. the country would exist in a tenfold degree. if the Post-office in the metropolis were opened. The Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Locke) bad quoted it-stances of inconvenience to parties connected with lunatic asylums; bat was not that precisely the case of every lunatic asylum in the metropo lis? The metropolis was the great concentration of all the lunatic asylums in the sountry— (A laugh) - and the cases were precisely ana!ogous. He maintained, therefore, that there was something more for the house to consider than the mere rescinding of the resolution, inasmuch as all the argu ments cf inconvenience to the country pressed with tenfold more force upon the metropolis. But he did not, believe incon venience had occurred here, for the system had prevailed for several years, and be had yet- to learn what difficulty re sulted from it. Was it not, further, the case when a pro, osi tion was made a few years ago to open the Post-office in the metropolis, that it excited 'a degree ot opposition w Lich made it quite impossible for the establishment to advance a single step towards it ?—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman, how ever, said he must warn the House, Itemise of the way in which petitions had been got up. No doubt there were various arts employed in the getting up . of some peti tions; but some reference must be made in determining both to the quality as well as the number of persons signing. Could the petition from Glasgow be sup posed to have been got up as the ho . Gentleman had de scribed? The gentlemen who signed that pet e, ca pable of judging for themselves. They were not _liable to the charge of influence. Yet cut of fitity.onemeli 1 petition;b also members of h the town-council, f o rty-one twenty-two surgeons, sixty-eightsign e d t aa procurators, and brokers, merchants, manufacturers, and capitalists d the to the number of no bank less than 500. Nearly . 200 merchant s, iser end ers ' and others had signed the petition from 13 All greatiiese number of the same class that from Birmingham. petitions bore a character of not having been signed by par ties ignorant of what they were doing. He therefore was not prepared to say thst the new system had bad a full, fair, and satisfactory trial. The question had been argued al ready, and lie stood upon two points first, that there was the example of the metropolis, in which no mischief bad ever occurred from closing the Post-office upon the Lord's day; and n ex t th a t the resolution had been carried, and that her aaajesty's Ministers accepted it. Ie therefore i demanded a full, fair, and satisfactory . trial of it. The Honourable Gentleman had warned him against en couraging a spirit of puritanism. He i denied that he did. he put it mainly upon the ground that it was an act of ju s tice to over-worked and under-paid men; and he denied that there was any right to call upon them to do work not ab,olutelynecessary. r impression on his mind—(lleal )—and he only alluded to it to show the Hon. Gentleman that the strong feeling to which he had alluded was not all confined to one side on this ques tion. He would conclude by e bound in respect to the large rea t i ng that the House was number of petitions to which lie d had referred, in respect to the ig o nits i • v o e f ti t i h is e Crown, and a andfoili, in respect to its own consistency, I perfect, A and sufficient trial.--(1 - Toar.) g- Mr. GLIONBY rose amidst cries of "Divide." He said the Noble Lord had asked if this measure bad bad a full and sufficient trial. He (Mr. A li on by) would answ er t h at i t had already been tried too ' g ong, and lie regretted exceed. ingly that it had had any trial at.all.—(Hear, hear.) No thing co. Id so much tend to the desecration of the Sabbath as the very measure of the Noble Lord (Lord Ashl ey). I t i was sowing the seeds of vice n the large towns in the court trv, and in his own borough (Coek ermouth) he could state that it was driving to public-houses on a institute, Sunday th ose who formerly frequented the mecbanica ' JULY lO, 1850. Sir IL INGLIS, in flung to address the House, fslt that he was about to take the place which ought to be occupied by a member of her Maiesty's G.vernment, because the present was a question in which the honour r f their Jtoysil Mistress was concerned.—(oll, oh.) The Ministry - might have come down to the House and asked them to rescind the order before they submitted it to the Crown for approval; but, after what had taken place, the Government now ought to defend the course which they had recommended the .Sove reign to adopt. Did the House know how the employes in the Post-office had spent the first Sunday during which this measure had liberated them from their ordinary dutie? At Bristol between 40 and 50 of them assembled to render thanks to God for the boon which had been conceded to them; in Manchester, 65 of them attended the church of the Rev. H. Stowell, who took art active part in the movement; and at Liverpool, 75 Post-office clerks and letter carriers walked to church four abreast on the occasion. The Hon., Gentleman then referred to the evidence adduced by Lord Overstone (then Mr. Jones Loyd) before a Committee in 1838, with regard to the great moral good accruing from the cessation of the, ordinary pur.uits of the week on Sundays, and concluded by calling on the noose to adhere to its Iyevious decision. Lord JOHN RUSSELL—Sir, the Ilonoureble Gentleman who has just sat down has appealed so directly to the GJ vernment, that I cannot 11.1 p rising to explain the position in which wo stand with regard to this questi 3n. My Hon, Friend will not deity , that the proeositien erleinally mate did cot meet wish our support. But my Hon. Friend seems to forget the circumstance that it is not in our own power to withheld from the Sovereign an eddreee reseed House.—(Hear, bear.) Tile House haying; agreed to the address, and u Members of this llose bel g ' Slenthers of the Privy Council, we did not thielt we could have been, justi fied in withholding that address from the Crown, which this HOili.e had directed chunk! be presents I to her Iflajesty, and this is a cue of the particular difference which, as I stated on a former occasion, draws a distinction between an address and a simple resolution of this House which remains on its journals, and may be erased or rescinded on the following day. Well, having accordingly presented the eddress to ter Majesty, we were bound to give come edelee respecting it, and I own it appeared to me, aesnin a consultation my col leagues were of the same opinion, that the only course we could pursue was to advise her Majesty to comply with the address,—(ffeer, hear,) At the same time I did not disguise from the Sovereign, any more than my Honourable Friend has not disguised his sentiments from the House, that that vote of the House of Commons was not in accordance with our opinions.— (Hear, hear.) T certainly could have wished that this sub. ject had not donee on again so soon for consideration. How ever, the question is now brought before me, and I am bound to express my opinion and record my vote on the subject. I own that I do not think the shutting of the Post-office on Sundays is a question perfectly analogous, to the practice of ordinary labour on the Sunday; nor do J either think it a question that is to be deterunned by the number of great bankers in easy circumstances who are ready to support either view with ,respect to it.— (Hear, hear.) With regard to the Post-office, there is this distinction between Sunday labour there and other classes of Sunday labour, namely, that the cessation of Sunday labour in the Post-office does not confine the delay in the trans mission of letters from one place to another to one day only, but extends to two days. A party writing from London to Glasgow has his letters delayed partly in London, partly on the road, and partly at Glasgow. The con sequence is, that if you shut up the Post-office on Sunday, there will be one day of the week which is a day of rest at the London Post-office, and another day's rest from the labour performed in the provincial post offices. ' But if you decide that in every part of the country the Post-office shall be closed in the same way on Sunday, it is evident that there is more than one day out of the seven during which the interruption of the communication will extend. Letters could not be delivered until Monday morning, and, there- fore, postal communication is not similar to those questions which regard most other species .of Sunday labour and the laws and regulations which the country has adopted with respect to them. Now, as to the consequences which flow from such a regulation as the one new enforced in compli ance with the recent address from this House, I do not think, as I have already stated, that commercial correspond ence is the ckief matter to be considered.—( Hear, hear.) I think if it was merely commercial correspondence that is concerned, it would be quite right to stop all labour in the Post-office on Sunday, and that persons at Manchester or Glasgow, who are engaged in commercial affairs should not have their business correspondence delivered to them on Sunday. As far as concerns commercial men in these towns, there is nothing to prevent them from carrying on their business on another day. But it is a very different question as far as regards the family and domestic affairs of the community, because it concerns their gene ral well-being, or the voyages of individuals from abroad, and still more because it concerns the illness, and it may be the imminent danger, of near and dear relatives. And, &r, I cannot lose sight of this circumstance, that here is a par ticular department of the state peculiarly charged with the business of carrying letters, and armed with all the powers of the state for preventing other persons from interfering to perform that duty.—(Hear.) It is therefore ch.srged ex clusively, and takes upon itself exclusively to perform this particular duty. Supposing it conveys aletter on a Saturday evening from London, informing a daughter that her father is dangerously ill, and unless she sets out immediately she may never see him again alive, or receive his blessing; and supposing that that letter having arrived in a provincial town early on Sunday morning, is there detained for 24 hours, in the post-office, while the daughter, knowing, perhaps, of her father's illness, is sufftiring all the agonies of protracted anxiety during these 24 hours, until she is at length i permitted to see her letteg. remember there was a case that excited much attention not very long ago—the case I of the Duchess of Sutherland—whose father was dying at 1 Castle Howard. It was generally thought at the time very hard that she should not have been allowed to enter the railway carriage to proceed to see her father.before he ex pired, and the occurrence attrac'ed much attention, owing to the rank and conspicuous position of the person to whom the refusal was made. But this very circumstance which shocked the minds of so many people, from the apparent barbarity and cruelty of preventing a daughter from going to her father, we might have repeated at present, under the recent postal change, every Sunday; but with this differ ence, that the hardship would be confined to poor families, who could pay a penny for a letter, but who could not afford to send a telegraphic message or a parcel by railway; and this might occur in 50 or 100, or even in 300 instances for what we know, every time we detained letters in the Pos..- office on Sunday. 1 own that I think, if we are to adopt this motion, we should take it in the sense in which I con ceive it is intended, namely, for an inquiry , whether yon cannot confine the delivery- of letters on Sunday witt,in such a short time as will enable the clerks in the post-chines of these towns to attend Divine service, and enjoy some re creation. I think that is an object which is very desirable, and which, as far as I can judge, it would be far from impos sible to attain. If that is the case, then, I certainly should consider it would be better to omit the last words of the reso lution, and that, instead of reverting to the former rule pending the proposed inquiry, it would be advisable to con. tinue the present regulation in the interim, care being taken that the inquiry should be conducted as speedily as p ssible,—(l-lear, hear.) • Mr. MUNTZ had supported the former resolution of the House on this subject, because he regarded it as a great ob ject to the working man not to be employed on Sundays unless upon business of necessity. He had had a personal reason fog it, because he had not had for years a comfortable quiet Sunday, owing to the multitude of letters he received on that day.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) During theshort time for which this regulation had keen in force he had never sustained the slightest' inconvenience from it, and he had had the pleasure of enjoying what he never did before, comfortable Sundays. He had received letters from various parts of the country, approving of the resolution, and stating the advantages experienced from it ; but never one against it. It was true he had seen anonymous letters in newspapers complaining of it ; but he put them down for what he always believed such letters to be—the composition of the editor, or of some person employed on the newspaper.—(A laugh.) He had given the resolution his support in the first instance, after a very large meeting of his townsmen, at which ten persons out of eleven were in favour of it. Mr GLADSTONE was not quite certain that he had ac curately gathered the meaning of the Noble Lord. Did he propose simply to omit the last clause of the motion of the Hon. Member for Honiton, praying her Majesty that, pending the inquiry, the delivery of letters should be continued, leav ing the rest of the motion unaltered? Lord JOHN RUSSELL—Yes. . Mr. GLADSTONE would then suggest to the Noble Lord that alteration would not meet the reasonable objections that were entertained to the motion. If the Noble Lord would take a day or two to consider—(No, no)—the precise form of the motion that should be submitted to the House, he thought that would be the totitse most likely to meet the convenience of the House, and to lead to an amicable settlement of the question. if not, the Noble Lord, .how ever well he might intend, left the motion cpen to the, most important of the substantial - objections that were urged against it. He for one decidedly objected to come to a vote , lento: ing that sensible inconveniences had been experienced from the arrangements lately adopted, as the resolution would be left. Having heard the statement of the Government, and theobjections which had been brought against the motion of his Noble Friend (Lord Ashley), he very much wished that the subject, when first brought forward, had received a more full discussion. But the moth n was passed by the House, and to rescind the decision of the House was rather a serious matter, the more so when it was done so suddenly that it was perfectly plain that it was not done from expe rience. —(Hear, hear.) However anxious he might be to secure to working men the immense boon and blessing of cessation from Sunday labour, he was not prepared to say that in somecases for the public convenience that boon should not be withheld, but you could not say you were sensible of the public inconveniences that arose from the cessation of the delivery of letters, when, in point of fact, you had not watched the -working of the new system any length of time, and were merely acting upon a foregone conclusion -eetertained before the motion of his Noble Friend with the same force as it was en tertained now.—( Hear, hear.) But if it were objectionable to rescind the resolution of that House, much more was it objectionable that they should now take the course they were invited to take as regarded the measure. On the 30th May an address was agreed to, praying the Crown to put a stop to the delivery of letters on Sundays. It by no means followed that the answer of the Crown was to be a mere echo, of the address; it was in the power of the Crown to 'eke en inter mediate course, to institute inquiries, and proceed with caution ; but Ministers . hougbt themselves bound to give at once full and absolute effect to the address voted by the House. The answer to the address was received on the 10th of June, end the 23d of June was the first Sunday on which the delivery of letters was stopped. He was not prepared, and he hoped the House was not prepared, on the 10th of July, to come to a vote declaring that they were convinced, meaning of course that they were convinced by observation, of the results of the great public inconveniences resulting from the new arrangement.- (Rear.) The Noble Lord now virtually called upon theta to retrace their steps, by condemn ing a course that had been in, operation only three Sun days, and he did not think it fair to the Crown that, having induced the Crown to take a 'very decided measure in consequence cf the address of that House. they should now, within three weeks, virtually invite the Crown to take a different course.--( Hear, hear.) The question was not now the same as was before them on the 30th May. With respect to the personal and family inconveniences, on which the Noble Lord had dwelt, it was perfectly obvious that this was a question of degree, and that the same thing might arise in towns where there w no second delivery on Sunday, and they must place against this the immense ad vantages that would flow from the strict observance of the Sunday. If they wished to preserve their own consistency, their due relations towards their. Crown, or the dignity of the Crown itsaf, in the face of the country, this was not a time at which they should re-open the question.—(Hear.) Mr. RICE - concurred with the Right Hon. Gentleman who had just addressed the House in thinking that they ought not to vote the resolution as it would stand with the omission of the last clause. Mr A. B. HOPE supported the motion, wishing to esta. Wish a rational and Christian, and not a Judaising observ ance of the Sunday. Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought, after what had fallen from the Right Honourable Gentleman the Member for the University of Oxford, it would be desirable to come to some understanding as to the proper form of the resolution. It appeared to him that it would be quite aufdelent, leaving out the latter words, to vote that an humble address be lee- i . . - PARLIAMEN TA `t Y .DIV isr 0 ii ki - s stinted to her Majesty, "p re yi ng t h at her Majesty will b e 1 i graciously pleased to cause an inquiry to be made whether the amount of Sunday labour may not be reduced, wit'. ;. (Fr°l3li- tr- h i C Vote: " I i piV " e ' lin ' ll. ' 't '''" e " " se If 1-7 '"'"w"' ) TI.IESDAY, JULY 9. completely putting -, an end to.the collection and delivery of . letters."— (Hear, } b lear.) I'OST- OFFICE. Sir T. D. ACLAND would b e h a p py to concur in the reso- ! M otion madeeend Question proresed,—." That, .whilst this lotion as proposed to be amended by his Noble Friend, be- House acknowledges will safisfection the diminution in the lieving it to represent justly the feelings of the House. amount of Sunday labour effected. by the receivi arrange. Mr. HUME was sorry to see such excitement manifested ! merits in the Post-office, it vannt t but be sensible eftLe great on a question which ought to be gravely debated. The pi., - ; public incenyebience welch has arisen from the total cessa vious vote, in a House of 140 Members was agreed to hastily ton of any delivery or collection of letters o: Sundays, and and in consequence of Members being taken by surprise. Ile i that an humble Address be therefore presented to her Ma thought the opinion of the House ought n ow to• he - expressed !,ieeVerraying that She writ- be graciously pleased to cause an on the e riginal motion, as it would always be in the power of inquiry to be made, whether the amount of Studay labour the Government to institute an i nqu i ry . - - might nut be reduc e d w i t h out completely putting;aa cud to Mr. CARDWELL, after baying given a painful attention the collection and delivery of Letters, &e., on 'Sundaes, and to the debate; rose to express his opinion on this subject, as 1 that, pending such iequiry, her Majesty will be graeiouely he represented a constituency which, more tha n a n y ( ne er ' Plsased to give orders that the collection -ard celivety of perhaps, had taken an interest in it. He thought the cou-se letters, &c. on Sur4eye shalt i,e continued as heretothie :"._. proposed by the Noble Lord was one which, in such a junc- Atueudineet propesed, to bele, e u fi,.m the vJoiti `• '1 . :.,:t" to ture, would be approved of by the great majetity of the pen- the end of the Qw. tioD, i-: , 1d..1 To 4, - ill ; us 7 ,• rk; "i t pie. It was one which would tend on the one hand to mid- humble Address be presented i e her 2d, je.i.t, I,•;, , ing. b e gate the inconvenience which would flow from a continuance She will be gracieusly pleased to ceuse at: require - to be of the restrictions, and un the other, to pay a li,inagu t o snide, whether the soneuet of Sureeoelen o ue in tee Peet. those religious feelings which had been so stroegly expressed (dace might liCt he retlia,ii ‘sitilit -comp - Li:tell - puttieg au on the subject. end to the collt.clion :::,i.l iieltvory ci 1.. , 1 Et:L.4 &e. to Sul, Mr. SCHOLEFIELD dissented from the views which had days :"- Queetien ern, " "ii het the uo,d, proi,csed to Le lett been ex eicssel by his colleague (Mr. Muntz), and expressed out stand part of tie Question." The house divided:— his belief that a majority of his constituents were in favour Mi NORITY —A Y ES, 92. of the removal of the newly-imposed rest' ictione. A hdy, Sir 'llEinnts Fortescue, J. W. He tom, C. W. J. Lord 1). STUART considered that the House was bound Adair, !high E. Fi W.. 1 Ricardo, Join L. to express an opinion at once upon the motion of the null. Agnelli)", 11. Gibson, Thomas M. Roebuck, ~ A k.ntsvirrigo , 1: g t : 14s Sir ,1. i t e ii ; ,,,-,t l ; : ..ii.ii l l : LL,r,d, deer. ,;:sis i Si l a u tui t i i l , :lie l.) : ‘, l l .. :r . : . ,.:J: : ( l , \ l l , ;i s ; , l .113 Member fur Hoei•on. . Ansley, Tkomas Green.% .; Uilh Mr. DISRAELI did not think the wording of the amend .lerr ment had bei n ssfficiently considered. It. referred to Sun- Baring it. fl i.. 0. day labour hi the Post-silica, when in fact there was no Berk e l e y, e. waekan, S. Iv. ille s jz o r r di h , 1 , 1 .Le. C. S S , l , l , e l i t l i r 3 7, 1 1 . '.. ,.. r k i e c r a Sunday labour. Thee therefore cculd not address her Ma jesty to mitigate a thing which had no existence, Believing Make, M. J. that the amendment proposed would stultify the object in Blewitt, Reginald Ilobliouse, T. B. Smythe, George , s. view, ho suggested that the b e st s t e p wou ld b e to ad j ourn B"3le ' " looe. 110d..,e5, T. Twis e l en Somers, J A the debate. Bright, John Herlihy, John - Spearman, U. .r Sir GEORGE GREY said that if th e H onoura bl e Member Brown, Humphrey Knight, F. W. S tephenson, Itobertclay, James - - En ix, CoVnel Talbot, J. 11. had read the wJaole of the 'amendment, the inconsistency he Cobden, Richard Lowther, Colonel Taiicred, U. we would lenlicate would not be found to have any existence. Cochrane, A. Lowther, Henry Thompson, George Of course the amendment had in view the past Sunday labour cote. burn, Alex. APCullagh. W. Thor rely, T. in the Post-office. Coke, Edward K. Mahon, O'Gorman Tollem a ch e , F. I. Collins, William lilanners- ' l.ord C. Towneley,Johu Lord J. M ANN ERS denied that the motion securing the Crawford, W. S. 'Mardiall, J. G. Wall, C. B. present restriction had been carried by surprise. Crowder, It. B. Marshall, William Walmsley, Sir I. The House then divided, when there appeared— Devereux, J. T. . Mitchell, T. A. Wa wil t J. -T. For the original motion ... ... 92 D'Eyncourt, C. T. Moffatt, George 'Willcox, Brodie Against it ••• ••• ••• ••• '233 Divett, Edward Molesworth, Sir W. Williams, T. P. Dodd, George No rre y s , Si r D . Wilson, Matthew Majority ••• .•• •• • •.. 141 D Douglas, Sir C. Nugent, Sir Percy Worcester, Martini! On our return to the gallery, Drax, J. S. W. O'Connell, Maurice Wvill M. Mr. ROEBUCK asked whether, as it was no t lik e l y that kbrington, Viscount O'C o n ne ll, M. J. y , the House would sit many weeks longer, it was proposed to Fagan, William Osborne, Ralph institute inquir y without further application to the H ouse ? Fitzwilliam, G. W. Pelham, D. A. Lard JOHN RUSSELL thought the best course to adopt- Forster, Mathew Pilkingten, James under present circumstances would be to leave the matter to the discretion of the Crown. He thought it was com petent to her Majesty's. advisers to advise the Crown to make regulations permitting the transmission and delivery of letters. Lord ASHLEY wished to know whether he was to under stand from his Noble Friend, that supposing the inquiry was to take six weeks or two months—(oh, oh, and cries of" One week")—was he to understand that her Majesty's Ministers intended to act upon the report without previously commemi-- eating their intentions to Parliament? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that if Parliament was sitting, he would certainly state to the House the result of the in quiry, and the directions given by the Crown in consequence. If Parliament should not be sitting, he certainly thought it was competent in the advisers of the Crown to issue direc tions respecting the delivery of letters. An HON. MEMBER asked what sort of inquiry was in tended to be instituted? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said be could not at present state the exact mode in which the inquiry would be con ducted; but all the means at the disposal of the Treasury and the Post-office would be employed for the purpose. The amendment of Lord John Russell was then put from the chair, when Lord ASHLEY said, after the explanation the Noble Lord had given of his intention to take the matter altogether out-of the han 's of Parliament, he must say, and be said it with great regret, that it was impossible for him to agree with the motion of the Noble Lord.—(" Oh, oh," and cheers.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL reminded the Noble Lord that his own original motion proposed an inquiry which was in every respect as vague and undefined as the present. Lord ASHLEY rose, but was received with loud cries of " Spoke." Lord JOHN MANNERS acid the Noble Lord opposite had reminded him that the motion of his Noble Friend, which was carried, did propose en inquiry upon this subject. He would now ask whether it was not the duty of the Go wrnment, before this time, to have institute.[ that inquiry, and to abide by the advice he had given to the Crown till that inquiry was made? . . - Lent ROBERT GROSVENOR could not consent to leave this matter kettle hands of the Government, recollecting that the Chancellor of the Exchequer had on a previous occasion avowed that Ministers advised the Crown to consent to the motion of his Noble Friend, in the hope that thereby the people would be roused to petition against it. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said his Noble Friend had unconsciously misrepresented him elle never used any phrase that could bear that meaning. Mr. PHILIP HOWARD rose to denounce the closing of the Post-office as a tyrannical measure amidst loud and continued shoutings, which rendered nearly every sentence inaudible, - . Mr. FORBES MACKENZIE. moved the adjournment of the debate, but subsequently, at the instigation of some of his friends, withdrew the motion. In answer to Mr. PLUMPTKE, Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that if Parliament should be sitting at the time the report was made, he would have no objection to hey that report on the table of the House, and at the same time state the advice he meant to tender to the Crown upon it, so that any Member would then be at liberty to move an address to the Crown upon the subject. The House then divided, when there appeared— - For Lord John Russell's amendment ... 195 Against it ..- _ 112 TELLEILI, Locke, Joseph Hume, Joseph MAJORITY-NOES, 233. Adair, R. A. Shaft° Galway - , Viscount Mulgrave, Earl Adderley, C. B. Gaskell J. M. Mundy, William Alcock, Thomas Gladstone, W. E. 31untz, G. F. • Arbuthnott, Hon. 11. Gip), G. C. Newt', gate, C. N. Ashley, Lord - Goddard, A. L. Newry, Viscount Bagge, William Gooch, E. S. Noel, G. J. Baines, .M. T. Granby, Marquis of Norreys, Lord • Baring, Sir F. T. Greene Thomas O'Brien, Joha Baling, Thomas Greniell, Charles W. Ogle, S C. Bass, Thomas Grey. Sir G. Ord, William Bateson, Thomas Grogan, Edward Packe, C. W. Bellew, R. M. GI osveuor, Lord R. Paget, L or d U. Beresford, William Guernsey, Lord Pakington, Sir J. Berkeley, Admiral Guest, Sir John Palmer, Robert Berkeley, H. F. Gwen, 'rowel Palmer, Roundel! Birch, Sir T. Halsey, T. P. Palmerston, Vie. Blackstone, W. Hamilton, G. A. Parker, John Booth, Sir R. G. • Hamner, Sir J. Pearson, Charles Bouverle, E. P. Hardcastle, J. A. Perfect, Robert Boyd, John Elastic, Alexander Pigott, Francis Bramston, T. W. Hustle, Archibald Plowden, W. IL Brand, Thomas Hatchell, John Plumptre, J. I'. Bremridge, Richard Hawes, Benj. Portal, Melville Brisco, 31. Hay - ter, W. G. l'rice, Sir It. Brocklehurst, J. Heald, James Pusey, Philip Brothertou, Joseph Heueage, G. H. W. Reid, Colonel Brown, W. Henley, J. W. Rice, E R. Buller, Sir J. Y. Hervey, Lord A. Rich, Henry Bunbury, E. H. lllldyard, T. B. T. Richards. Richard Burghley, Lord Hill, Lord E. Robartes, 'l'. J. BurroUghes, H. Hill. Lord Marcus &ninny, Sir John Buxton, it E. Hodges; T. L. Russell, Lord John Cabbell, B. B. Hollond, Robert Sandars, George Cardwell, E. Hood, Sir A. Scott, Francis Carter. John B. llotham, Lord Seymer, H. K. Cavendish, C. C. Howard, Lord E. Seymour, Lord Cavendish, W. G Howard, C. W. Shell, R. L. Chict,ester, Lord J. Howard, E. G. Sibthorp, Colonel Childers, J. 'W. . llow.ard, P. H. Simeon, John Clay, Sir W. Howard, Sir it. Slat ley , Robert A. Cure, H. B. Hutt, William Smith, Vernon Colvile, C. R. Inglis, Sir R. Smith, John Abel Compton, H. C. Jenny'', Earl Smyth, J: lin George Conolly,Thornaa Jervis, Sir John Somerset, Captain Cowan, Charles Johnstone, Sir J. Somerville, Sir W. Cowper, W. F. Jones, Captain Sotheron, T. H. Craig, Sir W. G. Kershaw, James Spooner, It. Dinner, Colonel - Labouehere, Henry Stafford, Augustus Dick, Quintin Lascelles, E. Stanford, J. F. Dickson, S. Lascedes, W. S. Stanley,. Edward Disraeli B. Legh, G. C. 'Stuart, Lord - Dudley Dod, J. W. Lemon, Sir C. Stuart, Henry Duncan, George Lennard, T. B. Sutton, Ii M Duncombe, A. Lewis, Sir T. Thompson, Colonel Duncornbe, 0. Lewt,, 0. C. Dundas, Admiral Lewl,ham, Via. Dundas, G. Littleton, E. K. Dundas, Sir D. Lockhart, W. Du Pro, C. George Long, Walter East, Sir J. Mackenzie, W. F. Edwards, Henry Mackie, John Egerton, Sir P. Mackinnon ' W. A. Ellice, Edward M'Gregor, John Ellice, Edward, jun. M'Taggart, Sir J. Elliot, John E. Meagher, 1 homas Evans, William Manners, Lord J. Evtlyn, W. J. Martin, C. IV. Farnham, E. B. Martin, Samuel Farrel*, James Masterman, J. Fellowes, E. Matheson, J. Ferguson, Colonel Ma.heson, Colonel Ferguson, Sir R. Maule, Fox Fitzpatrick. J. W. Miles, I'. W. FlOyer, John Miles, William Forbes, W. Milner, IV. M. Forester, G. C. Mines, R. M. Fortescue, Chichester Moody, C. A. Fox, S. L. Morgan, 0. Frewen, C. 11. Mostyn, E. M. L. Thompson, Alderman Towneley, John Townley, IL G. Trollope, Sir J. Tynte, Colonel Tyra, Sir J. Vane, Lord 11. Verney, Sir li. Villiers, Charlel Vivian, J. H. Vyse, It. 11. Wakley, Thomas Walter, John Watkins, Colonel Welby, G. E. Weathead, J. I'. Williams, John Wilson, James Wood, rir Charles Wortley, J. S. Wyld, James ••• • •• 3lujority •• ••• _•• ••• —B3 Sever:A Bills were passed through Committee pro forma, Tbe other orders of the day were then dispOsed ot, and the ouse adjourned at a Quarter to TErea-o'clock. TELLIES Hope, Alexander Aeland, Six T. 1). Main Question, as amended, put. The House divided : MAJORITY—AYES, i 93. Abdy, Sir T. N. Gibson, T. M O'Connell. M. J. Adair, 11. Shatto Glyn, George Carr Ogle, S. C. Aglionhy, IL A. tirnii:..y. Alarquis Osborne, Ralph Anstey, T. C. Greene, clOills I'acke, C. W. Arkwright, G. Grentell, Charles W. Paget, Lord George Armstrong, Sir A. Grey, sir (.I. .Pnlinerston, VIA. i;gittes, M. T. Grey, Ralph W. Parker, Joni. Baring, IL B. Gwyn, nowel Pearson, Cborlea Baring, Sir F. Hall, sir B. Pennon, A. D. Bass, M. T. Haul-Mon ' Lord C. Pigot, Fran c i s Bellew, a. M. Hamner, Sir J. Piiitington, James Berkeley, Henry F. liateliell, John Frice, Sir It Berkeley, C. L. G. -- Hawes, B. Repton, G. W. I. Birch, Sir T. llayter, W. G. Ricardo, J. L. Blackall, S. W. Ileneage, G. 11. Rice, E. It. Blake, Martha. Henley, J. W. Rich, henry Blewitt, R. J.. Henry, Alexander Roebuck, J. A. liouverie, It. F. Hervey, Lord A. Romilly, Colonel Boyle, Colonel Heyworth, L. Romiliy, Sir John P rand, Thomas Hildyard, R. C. Russell, Lord J. Brernriage, Richard Hill, Lord E. Sadleir, JOm Bright, John Hill, Lard Marcus Satwey, Colonel . Brocklehorst, J. llobhouse, T. B. Sanders, G. Brotherton, J. Hodges, T. L. Scholefield, William Brown, H. Hodges, T. T. Scully,Francis Brown, William .llollaral, -Robert Seymour, Lord Bunbury, E 11. -Ilornby John Shell, B. L. Burroughes, H. N. Howard, Lord E. Shelburne, Earl of Cabbell, B. B. Howard, C.W.O. Slaney, R. A. Cardwell, Edward Howard, E. G. Smythe, G. Carter, J. B. Howard, P. H. Somers, J. P. Cavendish, C. C. Hume, J os.eoh Somerset, Captain Cavendish, W. G. Jervis, Sir John t-ome vile, Sir W. Clay, James Johnstone, Sir J. Spearman, H. J. Clay, Sir W. . Kershaw, James Stephenson, Robert . Clive, Henry B. Knight, F. W. Stuart, Lord D. Cobden, It. Labouchere, Henry Sutton, J. H. Cockburn, Alex. Laseelles, W. S. Talbot, J. li. Coke, E. K. Lemon, Sir C. Tancred, 11. W. Collins, William ! Lennac!, T. B. Thompson, Colonel Cowper, W. F. Lewis, G. C. ThompFon, George Craig, Sir W. G. Lewis, Sir T. Thornely, Thomas Crawford, W. S. Littleton, E. R. Tolleniaehe, 1 , . J. Crowder, It. B. Locke, Joseph Towneley, John Darner, Colonel Lowther, colonel Townley, It. G. Do ereux, J. T. Lowther, Henry Tynte, Colonel D'Eyneourt, T. M`Citilagh, W. T. Tyrcil, Sir J. Divett„ Edward Mahon, O'Gorman Villiers, Charles Dodd, i i., Marsh 11, J. 0, Vivian, J. H. Douglas, Sir C. E. Marshal!, William Wakley,:iThomall Dundas, Admiral Martin, C. W. Wall, C. B. Dundee, Sir David Matheson, James s Walinsley, Sir J. Ebrington, Lord Matheson, Colonel Walter, John Ellice, Edward Maule, lox Watkins, Colonel Ellice, E., Jun. Mitchell, T. A. Wawn, J. T. Elliot, John Moffatt, George Westhead , J. P. Fagan, William Molesworill, Sir W. Willcox, Brodie Ferguson, Col. Morgan, 0. Williams, T. P. Ferguson, Sir R. Mostyn, E. M. Wilson, James Fitzpatrick, J. W. Mulgrave, Earl Wilson, Matthew Fltzwilliam, G. W. Non eys, Sir D. Wood, Sir Charles Forester, G. C. Norreys, Lord Worcester, Marquis Forster, Matthew Nugent, Sir Percy Wyvill, Marmaduke Fertescue. Chichester O'Brien, J. TELLERS. Forteseue, J. W. O'Brien, Sir T. Gaskell, J. M. O'Connell, Maurice TO THE SECRETARY OF THE BRADFORD REFORM ASSOCIATION. Sir,—O, 'Monday the Bth, the Mercan:ite Marine Bid was proceeded with to a certain extent in Commit ee. The rest of the night was expended on the Eccleiias tical Committee Bill. An obscure subject, on which very little light can be got by an ordinary intent et, from study of the Bill. The glimmering to ho ob,ained is, i.t.at something is tr be done by the Bill, which the Eccles'ar tical Establishment would not do of itself; from which the conclusion with many will be, to incline them to its support. There seems so little danger of the present Government doing anything infuriate or rash in that direction, that average minds will lean towards giving it assistance. On Tuesday was an important debate on Mr. Locke King's motion for extension ,of the Suffrage. The language of the Opposition was remarkable for its osten tatious boast, that " nut one-tenth of the Liberal side of the House waild be returned on a new election." This is the simple consequence of the nullity of defence made by the Free Trade party in the House. Everything has been allowed to go there by default; so that the boldness of the adversary has been encouraged to a state of full blown recklessness. The division nevertheless Showed a substantial in crease of the Suffrage party. 100 voters. making with the tellers and six pairs 108, is a strength considerably greater than has been before exhibited. The Prime Minister as good as recommended, that a motion to the effect in hand should be made at the commencement of the session, when there would be a prospect of its being attended with success. . And it was a lathes in the Liberal party, that none of them stood up and closed with the tempting recommendation of the Premier. The arguments of the Opposition were peculiarly feeble. That there were traditions in the English mind favourable to the preservation of abuse; that England was a monarchy, and a monarchy wes incompatible with justice; that it was essential to the preservation of public peace that' one vote, of the Protectionist ply should count for ten cf the other's, or which is the same thing, that one thousand of their voters should send us many Members to Parliament as ten thousand of the others; were the grounds on which they maintained the indispensableness . f wrong. The House afterwards proceeded to Mr. Locke's mo tion for an Address to the Crown, praying for inquiry whether the amount of Sunday labour in the Poet•utlice might not be reduced without completely putting an end to the collection and delivery of letters &c. on Sundays, and that pending such inquiry the collection and deli very of letters should be continued as heretofore. The mover and the seconder (Mr. Roebuck) maintained their case with great ability. Lord John Russell with great tact moved an amendment, consisting nearly in the sime terms as the other, with the omission of the final clause relating to returning to the old practice pending the inquiry; which was filially carried by 195 again,t 112. The talent of the Premier in this manner relieved the country from a dilemma, which was every day grow• ing more serious, and tending to consequences which everybody must have finally deplored. I am, Sir, your obedient servant, AN OLD REFORMER. London, July 10, 1850. Hope, A.: Aeland, Sir I'. MINORITY—NOES, 112. Adderley, C. B. Frewen, C. Jr. Newdegate, N. A leock, Thomas Galway, Viscount Newry, Viscount Baggo, William Gladstone, IV. E. Noel, Gerald J. Baring, Thomas Goddard, A. L. Pakington, Sir J. Bat eson, Thomas Gooch, E. S. Palmer, Robert Berestorct, William Grcene, Thomas Perfect, Robert Blackstone, W. S. Grogan, Edward Piowden, W. H. Booth, Sir It. G. Guernsey, Lord Pluinptre, J. P. Boyd, John Halsey, T. P. Portal, Melville Bramston, T. W. Hamilton, Geo. A. Pusey, P. Buller, Sir Y. Hardcastle, J. A. Reid, Colonel Burghley, Lord Ileald, James Richards, Richard Buxton, Sir E. nestle, Alexander RoVanes, T. J . Chattertou, Colonel Llastie, Archibald Scott, Francis Chichester, Lad J. liildyard, T. B. Seymer, Henry Ker Childers, J. W. Hood, air Alexander &Whop, Colonel Colvile, C. R. Hotham, Lord Simeon, John Compton, H. C. Inglis, Sir it. H. Smith, .M. Tucker Conolly, Thomas Jenny'', Earl Smyth, John G. Cowan, Charles Jones, Captain Sotheron, T. H. S. Dickson, Samuel Knox, Colonel Spooner, Richard Disraeli, B. Lascelles, E., Staffmrd, Augusta Dod, J. W. Lelh, G. C. Stanford, J. F. Duncan, George Lewisham, Viscount Stanley, E. Duncombe, A. • Lockhart, IV. Stuart, 11. Duncombe, 0. Long, W. Thompson. Ald. Dundas,',George Mackenzie,:W. F. Tollemachr, John Du Pre, C. G. lII' Gregor, J ohn Trollo, - ..e, Sir J. East, Sir J. B. APTaggart, Sir J. Verney Sir 11. Edwards, 11. Manners, Lord J. Vyse, R. 11. R. 11. Egerton, Sir P. Martin, Samuel IVel by, G E. Evans, William Masternmi, John Williams, John Evelyn, Wi Liam J. Miles, William Wortley, J. S. Farnham, E. B. Miles, Philip W. S. Wyld, James Ferrer, Milner, James W. M. . _ _ _ __.. A LADY Cur TO PIECES.—An accident of a truly appalling character occurred on the Ycrk and Scarborough Railway on Thursday last, by which a lady of independence, named Martin, met with a terrible death. It appeared she had been staying at Roldgate, near York, and left her resi dence between three and four o'clock, with the intention of taking a walk along the banks of the River Ouse. "Soon afterwards she was observed by a gentleman walking on the railway near the viaduct which crosses the stream in ques tion, and at the same time a train was approaching at a rapid rate towards York. She remained evidently uncon scious of its coming up, having her parasol before her, and was walking leisurely along the permament way between the line of rails until the engine-driver gave the whistle alarm, which attracted her attention, when seeing her dan ger she turned round and ran back with the intention of es caping. Unfortunately, however, the train was too close upon her, for in the next moment or so the engine struck the unhappy lady to the ground, and the whole of the carriages, 17 in number, passed over her body. She was dreadfully mangled ; her body, in fact, was literally cut to pieces. It was its much difficulty her person could be ider.tified. Not the least blame could be imputed to the engine driver, who did all in his power to prevent the occurrence. An inquest was held on the body yesterday, and a verdict of Acci.tental Death was recorded. FeHowes, Edward Mines, R. M. TELLERS. Moyer, John Moody, C. A. Ashley, Lord Forties, Wm. Mundy, William Grosvenor, Lord P. Fox, S. W.L. Muntz, G. F. It was accordingly resolved, " That an humble Address be presented to her Majesty, praying that She will be graciously pleased to cause an inquiry to be made, whether the amount of Sunday labour in the Post. office might - not be seduced w•it.hout completely putting an end to the caection and de livery of Letters, on Sundays." E 1 DVERTIEMENT.] - Skin. Disowns, CI Wm - its Eruptions, Ringworm, and Scorbutic Humours, cured by Hol loway's Ointment and Pills —The virulence of these com plaints is very much increased by the impurity c f the blood, therefore to cleanse the same is the first step towards cheekir g the baneful effee• s of these maladies on the constitution, any there is na medicine so efficient for this purpose as Holloway's Pills, with which should be applied his invaluable Ointment, as, when combined, there is no disease of the - skin that can resist their curative powers. For the cure of old wounds, glandular swellings, and ulcerous sores, these medicines are unequalled.—Sold by all druggists, and at Professor Hollo way's Establishment, 244, Strand, London. The most agreeable reunions mvsicales et dansantes of the season have been those of Madame Anna Georges, of Soho square. The manner in which they have been conducted reflects the hi4hest credit upon the good taste of the charm ing hostess. At the request of several of the habitues of these pleasant soirees, we understand Madame Anna Georges will continue: them to the end of the season. At these reunions several of the most talented Italian artistes now in town lend their valual?le assistance to the evenings§ ammement. At N LIFE IN INDlA.—Captain Albert Hervefts ay rativ. , of his Ten Years' 11( sF:er.ce'in India; or, the Life of a Young Officer," will be published on Saturday next, by Mr. Shobe 1, of reat Blarlborough•streel,_wellolliass also now Secret; or, the Days of James the First," an historical romance, by a ready the following new works:-1. historical 11 i er's distinguished writer, 3 vols.-2. Mr. Sirr's account of his residence in the far-famed Cinnamon Island, entitled " Cey lon and the Cingalese," 2 vole., with plates.-3. Cdouel Keelingrecived a.,;(l' Napier's " E xc ursions in Southern Africa, including a com plete History of tie Cape Colony, ,, 2 vols., with plates.— 4. Ryan's " Tao Years' Personal Adventures in Californi a ," 2 vols., with plates, which, says the Nornirog _Hera d," i s one of the most attractive books of the season, and the f irst really authentic INDlA thent PlNEicandrelia A hl r e p in L f E or s. m ..... ati riv o i n e m ss • e r APPLES.—.Messrs. have e Hunt, in answer to numerous applications, beg to state that their publie show and sales of pine apples will take place at their warehouses, Monument-yard, City, on every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, between the hours of one and three until further uytice. ,