The Sun. — London, England, 1850-02-08 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, . ce i t W hile no one at'empted to break the pledge cf a free joyed for centuries—they, like us, being anxious to adapt ew Phis no Both parties hesitated for some lustanis too their constitution to the times in which trey lived, and selves e any decided step, at last the disarmed set them- to make it of practical utility—being anxious to advance e in tnotioe- Slowly the procession advanced until safely and gradually, and being reformers and not revo me ci rcumstance, which has never been precis( ly as lutionists, could not be content with such a constitution eertsined, was considered by the Wallachs a signal to as that; but, above all, they could. not aecept a con attack. :.. y stitution which had not been agreei to by dis ?Tow follo we d a horrifying scene. One part of the all the different orders of the state, but was mod were cudg e ll e d to death, others pierced through only granted as a f &your by the Sovereign, and, being so point e d mouetain-sticks. Some hanged on trees granted, might the next day be withdrawn.—(Hear, an te ere mangled with hay-forks; others thrown into pits teas.) When the Diet sew their legitimate Seve tio e r n e . under blocks rolld down upon their. next Wo- reign deposed, the succession of his heir set aside, and le,taduruca maidens e m n a s n sv n e e r r. e mutilated and murdered in the the t heir, instead of coming to Presburg to take the oath, as his predecessors had done, pouring foreign 4 The slaughter lasted long. Rainbold, a German, the troops into the country, and every compact between gressopector of Zalatuya, to whom clung his wife and two the house cf Hapsburg and Hungary broken, J /e h up daughters, not teeing any possibility of avert- they adopted the precedent set them by the 87rtheir dreadful fate, drew out his double pistol, which, Commons and Lords of England; and they I °_ 0 distruwul than his companions, be had retained, de:dared the throne vacant, and the further se ,y s t , down first his tvo daughtlrs, loaded again, shot his line of Hapsburg to bo for ever extinct. No ltepu , blic and, lastly, killed himself. The haste he x- was proclaimed, as again and again has been said. fee e e ; re e e nt, in which he achieved this awfsl de fi ed, ren- tendency of the Hungarian people has always !seen his hand uncertain, his mutilated wif • survived monarchical; their Acts run in the name of the King so n - jrible catastroph e , e ' n j re l a t e d . Of 1,200 per- until the 4th of March. " Governor-President," the title te e i r "" ° ut 110 remained wounded amongst the bod•ess of given to Kosqath, is one well-known to the constitutional reo „, co rades. Of these surv iv ors, about 70 or 80, hi story of Hungary; but Hungary would have been ..of them women, on the wife of the jtplge willing to receive any prince as their king, who in his tor z ar, bleeding fame countless wounds, dragged them- turn would have been ready to give them gust; oi l es i before the gates of the fott-ess of Gyula Jet 4-sar rantees that he would adhere to the letter . and wat er abar gh). But the commander of this place, which spirit of their law ; and, without foreign inter het3-2cuPied by the Austrian troops, drove the ex- vention, there is no doubt, that Hungary . in her h avir te g d with blows from the gates, where, after righteous purpose would have succeeded. In tact th . ey to h*-- been refused entrance hey had sunk powerless had all been successful; there were scarcely any Aus . trian t e ground. troops le f„ in Hungary, they had been succes,ively sad" These horrors never were punished by tl'e Austrians, beaten, until they could only hold one part of w trren, hen , some months later, Puchner was driven from the kingdom—a narrow strip of land—and then rie n l'ania by General Bem, and Csanyi, as 'lunge- Prince Schwartz !nberg adopted the suicidal po em neenateissury, sentenced several of the instieators licy of calling in the Russians. Hungary still, hae e ' s e e r Ptrators of th e ab ove - men ti one d hl oo d s h ec rt o b e however, opposed him, but not all the valour and courage th e " —, the correspondents of the Austrian party filled of their Dative generals could prolong the contest with e h Pellets of foreign countries with declamations on any chance of success. Not the flower of the Hunga- Thant9,ltan terrorism." rian generals, aided by the intrepid and daring Bem, or dep et „ L elleve, is a true picture of these horrors. A the experience of his count-yman Deaibinsky, or the jeer ""e'n was sent from the Diet to Vienna on the sub- ardent courage of our . own countryman, General e hi ' " they were for ma lly rece i ve d by th e Kin g and Guyon, could preval against the Russian Of nbrother. And now the National Assembly hordes, aided by the broken forces of Austria, fete:Pry, elected by the new and enlarged and still less against the treachery of Georgey—they i he t , wa3 opened a t P res burg on the 2d of July, could not prevail against th e overpowering influence of n , ,`"e Archd u k e Stephan pronounced a speech i n the t h e i ntervent i on c f Russ i a, which s most pernicious, gin . n ame from the th r on e , and in that speech the and will be found to militat e aga i ns t the interests of th e 6 expressed his unalterable determination t i maintain Europe at large. The movement and cause of Hungary li Pit ,i tit . i n . d a e i r P d e nd so e:e e of Hungary, and uphold all the laws, had t diets deep root in the minds of every civilized afte sw ell ' ar lY stigmatising the acts of Jellachich. Soon country • its example would have been followed on all necessary laws were sent tip f the sides, and free trade established all over the world seetll_assent, but no answer was given, and the Diet would have been the end of the . struggle. ettemel.4putation, heaths Iby the President and a large This will be seen if one of the papers which I have t sPly, °I . the House of Commons, to obtain some moved for shall be laid upon the table of the House. S et eskn evasive one only was give', and whilst the Besides this, Hungary would always have been an effi witheaet°4 Was in Vienna with the Minister, the King, cient barrier on the side of Russia; but now should there A ngus , ac quainting them, sent a letter, dated 31st of ever arise any dispute between Austrian and Russia, ,""e law' and addressed to the Viceroy, declaring that there is not the least doubt but that Hungary would take be e ~ of 1 848, by which a responsible Minister had up arms on the side of Russia, so great is the hatred and , e teirf a t . h ted to Hungary by the administration of the horror which Austria by her infamous conduct has ex am be on that country, of its finance and its commerce, cited in the breasts of the Hungarians, so great as to Pin aed e n detached from Austria, had been made and cause that nation to throw itself into the arms of its they t .,eontrary to the Pragmatic Sanction, and once-hated enemy. Sir, Ido not hesitate to say that •" er e declared null, usele is, and of no e ff ec t, this interference on the part of Russia in the affairs of to a It , a ge , was announced that the King was determined Hungary was a flagrant violation of the law of nations; it to th'evntte the laws and subject every one in Hungary was an interference in the affairs of an independent na scluarreratral power of Vienna. Here was the cause of tior, with which Russia hal nothing whatever to 'Meth• Austria was determined that all the laws do. The pret •xt put forward by the Emperor efre ct; "P u on the constitution should not be carried into for this intrusion had not the slighest foundation. act ed ungary was determined to have those laws In the whole Hungarian army there were not above W hich uP°l ' . It was exactly the same sort of quarrel 4,000 Poles, and of these not 40') came from Russian Po ities i vo had had in this country, and which led to civil land. The Emperor had not the slightest shadow of a rul e b both countries the King was determined to right to interf -re, even admitting the right of the ruler were Y l t erogative, an d i n b ot h countr i es t h e peop l e of a cou n t r y t o ca ll i n f ore i gn aid to quell what he may ramie uete rmined to b e governe d on l y b y t h e consider a r e b e lli on — a r i g h t, Si r, w hi ch l am very fsr Ru a ment, It couli:not be said that the Emperor from admitting. Even admitting this right the Emperor Of hi s coe rced b y t h e H ungar i ans, for he came o f A ustr i a bad no right to call in Russian aid too interfere Lattest ° „ s wn free w ill t o P res b urg , an d grante d hi s b e t ween hi m an d H ungary, f he was neither the de wa s x hat was on th e fi rs t occas i on • on the second, jure nor the de facto King of Hun g ary, f or th e reasons I heri sed n t ° ,t in Hun gar y, h e was a t Vienna, when be au_ which I have already detailed. I have also some papers L a ads e, speech to be made from the throne to be to move for regarding the Danubian provinces of Wal "eitt "la Viceroy. As to the pretence of the laws Ischia and Moldavia. Some two years, on one pretence * a , o.eeetrary to the Pragmatic Sanction, there never or another, Russia had interfered in the affairs of those tinly ; 4e so void of foundation. The Pragmatic Sanction provinces. The people of that country had effected some ° lssO t tlated the order of succession. It was an act reforms, and, as usual, Russia was desirous of putting ee et 'ttlent and nothing more, and the order of succes- down anything which partook of the net ire of reform. a lb s t erfer e t a he t inie that protection was taken, had not been Unhappily she suceeeded, the country returned ;F t , t ; 7 1 th. It w a s no t i n t er f ere d w i t h unt il l ong to it s f ormer state, and the Turkish Govern er h . 'is an Emperor had abdicated, not until ment was prevailed upon to sign some sort of th Is brother had renounced his claim to a treaty called the Convention of Balta Limau, ee tk lsioe rc h n e, not until after the next in sue- by which it was stipulate i that neither Russia nor Tur ab t „,,e4 put forward claims with an inten- key should have more than 10,000 men in those princi ;: the s ",ing it up, not until after the constitution paliCes. But even then Russia did not abide by her own af ßht s t j . tn of March, which swept away all the convention of the Ist of May. The troops were not yet :tee all s institutions of Hungary; it was not until withdrawn. One of the papers which I shall move for Ij4'. B tthese things that the throne was declared va- on this occasion is a circular letter addressed by Count et ;te et ; l e t c !uppo . si ng these laws were opposed to the Nesselrode to the European Ambassadors on tho subject nes oanction, what force had It in Hungary unless of this occupation, an extract from which I am it es out by the Diet? None at all. I t was neces- enabled to read b ecause t h e N o bl e L oy d had vial mild Could have t h e sanct i on o f t h e Di et b e f ore i t it i n th e course o f last session. This circular e h ieb od e aye a °Y validity. The three estates of the realm states that " from the moment th a t i n M o ld av i a an d mitred it had a right either to abrog a t e it d e ther Wallachia law shall have established, and guaranteed he aw ' or to introduce other laws partially to the troops shall be withdrawn from them to go and ocou- TZ th e , a l Whit it, or to pass laws which, py immediately the , strictly defensive position which N i t ; Pre - t, e e rey s did pass, had no effect upon it. they occupied before. ' Now, Sir, I ask the Noble Lord eti ts3 , that the reform carried by the Diet was whether he thinks that a sufficient guarantee for the nit % t he Praematie Sanction', was just as if King peace of these provinces has been given? Has the Porte a Ae the it " L SI , Fourth ° , after having given the royal assent sufficient guarantee? The Noble Lord knows how anxious pro I ,`"rtn Bill, should have tried to set aside that the Sublime Porte is to have the Convention of te ,istu e the plea that it was contrary to the law Balta Liman carried out, and yet after this declaration Ved eT eht.— (Hear, hear.) Jellachich, formally de- f Count Nessolrode, will it be believed that Russia still ter°, th e Power,, was, nevertheless, allowed to hold it. retains no less than 46,000 men in those provinces? The sh th 141Ingarian Ministry resigned. The Diet dc- Noble Lord at the head of the Foreign Department, in o t e at two Scat h e e laws which had be'n in vain presented answer t an observation which fell from the Hun.. I tetti eh put in force provisionally, and meanwhile Member for Youghal (Mr. Anstey), stated his °envie -16 er reg ular o ssed the Danube at three different points, tine that these Russian troops would speedily be with tersestCreat troops, aided by Austrian drawn. He will excuse me for stating that lam not al lied re gui The Hungarians, in the absence of together satisfied with that assurance on his part. I Med Ministr and in consequent con. beliere my Noble Friend stated in the course of de •11(1 Wer e 3 , t ilt the unable to oppose any considerable force; tate that . it was perfectly opens for . any . Member . to . say .. th e h e e n ...nsi quence was, that the Croats advanced that he did not entirely partake in any opinion which of r acy ;ft of the country, pillaging and plundering might be delivered on such points, and I now state that , 4 ar,,,„ e nt• The Diet then offered the command Ido not partake in that opinion of my Noble , Friend; .. h 4 l 'erc:"-s i. to the Archduke in his capacity of Captain- and I will tell the House why Ido not. •The Noble het v , f la g e a_ accepted it, and joined the army, but after Lord will recollect that when these troops first entered r tth eee t , eavoured in vain to effect arrangements Moldavia, I called his attention to the fact, and ho , hi," P riecl is i° opposing forces, he left the camp and treated the matter very lightly, and said they had ens ot - Psi gn "„„rnugh Pe s ie to Vienna, where he tendered tered without the consent of the Russian Gvernment. ilo a nite te ;' ° n , which was not accepted. On the 25th In 1848 I called his attention to the fact again, and the id Vere s r a royal ordinance, which had not been Noble Lord said they had entered Moldavia,. and well. ee t - seed te m i eerbk , placed all the Hungarian troops under not enter Wallachia. But I will remind my . Noble lee t ;° — "rg; b t the Diet declared the appointment Friend that they have entered Wallachia. Again, my * be °n ut ilk 1 1 rg ga , and required the counter signature. Noble . Friend,. on . the matter being forced upon his at -414 3 th e ,;ITel the decree, and was proceeding to• tention, again said that they would soon be withdrawn. d % e ll tb et e l ' t ariel to take the command, when he was But a year and three-quarters have elapsed, they . tee tidge of boats by a crowd, dragged from the are nut yet withdrawn. My Noble Friend says, It is to o ': handle cad he was seated, and murdered. A a question of time." Now, I will ask my Noble Friend, ila t a cille eee "ad been made against the Hungarians in supposing that ho had a troop of soldiers quartered itst i teta of tl _Of this event, and most deplorable it was. upon him, and had their horses to keep, and that on re ishi Ts nature perpetrated by mobs were not the monstrating with the commanding officer, he were coolly e s , e u a country could be fairly judged, and they told, " Oh, my good fellow, don't put yourself about, it's th tth St l i n t e ' ttt . 0 any nation, unless indeed it appeared all a question of time." How would the Noble Lord 14bi s e tite e had manifested an utter indifference to like that if he had all the weekly bills to . pay ? And ' ho e . (Cries of "Hear, hear.") The Hungarian this is just the cam with Wallachia and Moldavia. 11 4 4 ' 4 stew"' had p asse d a reso l ut i on express i ve o f Th e R uss i an G overnment d oes not support its 4 ft ee tir es to shat had occurred, and they directed own troops, but the unfortunate inhabitants are tfeo th at cise taken to bring the criminals to justice. saddled with the enormous expense because the !ahlokineataeunistance had occurred, there was a series Emperor of Russia chooses to act contrary to his N s ' j e l l tending from January to October, during treaties, and to erahle him to carry on his designs iis t r o % ,, t a stid ec i hich had the command of the Austrian against Hungary last year and against Turkey. t's ° 'yet bee Must say that his exactions and atrocities I think my Noble Friend, if he were in such a position t s e l ite e - ' e n surpassed, and only equalled by the in- as I have supposed, would soon be very heartily tired of Its,Vsb er r i rsition s and unequalled cruelties of Itadetzky the intruders, and would do all be could to get rid of T ag so me The executive power of the committee them. And so would Turkey now if she could. This thetied ti in abeyance, but was immediately re- tyranny ought not to be allowed. If my Noble "bstra,rllachich retreated. It was then that the Frionl had protested at first against the en :ktoetetiet " against Count Latour was made, and trance of those troops which it was pretended j~'St Ye t all was an order to put him to death. had entered unauthorised—a very fine way indeed for ey&lee, 2ese scandalous reports were circulated Russia to feel her way—if, I say, he had protested then lisete failed ' l tYany was implicated this act; but energetically, it is my firm belief that those troops never l.herder e i to bring forward any proof whatever of would have been authorised at all, and that in all proba• i htt ahi e l h ' e nlated thew slanders in order to justify a bility the easastrophes which have deluged Hungary Coe P er haPs, was still more atrocious than with blood never would have occurred. R uss i a wou ld Or e et nniy h7 n t Louis Latour. The murder of Count have backed out of this as she has done on m an y suc h nte C orde r o l i n'self was more atrocious, because it was occasions, and that would not have happened which ti ett hav e t ., 411 innocent man. The Government took now all liberal-minded men deeply deplore. I say, all et t set th eir sentence upon Count Batthyany car- liberal-minded men, fur not only in England, but over 0, tit upo n 1 4 ti) .ILto ur ; the anniversary of the day on which all Europe, the greatest enthusiasm bits been incited in Mot phiest Cu as murdered, thereby wishing to insin- favour of this brave nation. Nay, the contagion has I sPer l ti bliely m Batthyany a crime which they dare spread across the Atlantic; there I have heard of honour got h ave de c l are against him. Now, the news- being done to the Hungarians by the first magistrate of °I- et ,:ot the stated that Count Batthyany was the country, and I believe there is at this present time e t uta i. ge t murder of Count Latour, but the under discussion a proposition to suspend all intercourse A ll e ge se Vienna Lennie dares not to make such a charge, with Austria in consequence of her conduct to Hungary. Ol t t e em 0. . en... _ s 0 Count Batthyany there is not one I could not help, Sir, being sorry to hear my Noble iG' L tl titl ed he i, tett.t.tiae;cus,ation against him on that account. Friend talk of allowances being made; I do not like 7 ) , th dell ,(. 1 1 Count Latour, Vienna was sur- these allowances, which are always to be made for the re re a ac uieh. The Imperial forces of Hun- great and powerful. I hope my Noble Friend tiZas e lkikl the a ,- v to advance, which they might have will take the opportunity to-eight of telling ~.at ot he y ought to have done; but they hesitated us what these allowances . are that . are to be lit Tru es At l e r° Oct provided with an authority from made, that he will explain to us the circumstances tt e e via t 'Ylv ent a st, however, they did advance and fought which call for those allowances being made. Ido not ti sti es °ll toil the only attle that was fought during think that there is any subject of more importance th e ° t e - g . ,eg 40t Hungarian. I will not go through which can be pressed upon the attention of my Noble It. do -ve nts of the late war; there is not Friend. lam well aware that when first I brought it o t , so b A s L lte r ,eo en if I had a desire to weary forward, it did not rivet the attention of the country, 1 6%;, 4 1.: 1t n any such details.—(Hear, hear.) but now I think the case is different—the country is e e ".B, es _q l'ens, who took the command, in De- aroused to the importance of the question,. and it is haiNec,'"U, by ar ra, Y that originally did not number more fully determined to maintain the integrity of the Otto- V i a 1 1 41 0 f ra t u li e middle of March had cleared the man Empire. Every Government which we have seen, Otto- Vi ( tel e Fu ss . a) lvanta of the Austrians and had the Government of the 'Nike of Wellington and of the he t at e o ‘te h le i Th l e an 4. who . had invaded the territory from Hon. Baronet the Member for Tamworth, as well as e e t h. ungarians who had not abandoned that of my Noble Friend below, and even that Protec freeettesnidisehd On the banks of the Theiss, having tionist Government, whose advent we have been Pameer:lneeed_grittil, Weldeu, and all the other Aus- taught to expect, will, I presume, follow this 4 1 44' 1 th e e el's, and had driven them to the very course, for I have heard the Honourable teklhti e eeeptemntry, In the mean time the Austrian Gentleman, the Member for Buckinghamshire sititti,_l:tehzt :I..e.eTrhtaei.n measures, which had the effect with very great pleasure, advocate this policy in strong 1 1‘ 4 1ile b° the rY zuah in Hungary who had not already and I must say invery eloquent terms, as that necessary_ Emperor Ferdinand had some for the honour of his own country and for the peace of bls e , ?sv n t , siolating an oath. Although it Europe. In arguing this question I would not be sup -lethl,ept .._etttt his mind was weak, in fact, that he posed to be an advocate for war, I believe that war in - e tios I t to i l : ncl Qr Mental imbecility, still he had sense this case is entirely unnecessary. A great deal also has Is m4 t ler n ° l " that h . upi es he had taken an oath, and he been said about "Russiaphobia," and I have been con- Mott 1 ° a bout acting in the matter, but, fal- sidered to be afflicted with that malady. Now, I will ° abed iitt • or cations, he was induced, or rather tell the House how far lam a Russiaphobist. think Ne e s e t u osep h lu his throne, and his brother's son, the whenever this country speaks out in an unmistakeable eke Fra • ti Its' w est,i ft . on the 18th, ascended the voice to Russia, and tells her that she will not have a e ofs t orl, „ lathe 4th of March a new consti- certain course pursued, that the voice of this country liihhatt4ktli Pe t v4ie•;Queunt Kras and Dr. Bach, now M . i- will be obeyed without having occasion to make it heard h i -sa t , fi shed na, was published. The constitu- in the roaring of cannon. I know it is a perfect farce ~ge th e yel l th and by it all the laws, customs, and for stamen to talk of resisting this nation. At tettoiNtleelelltAosUstriatr_nations, were sought to be placed the time I•am so far a Russiaphobist „h et , or ,„,,e tu ef tuontrol, without regard to their be- th a t I cf l ot , t h, or esshould dread allowing this weakness e , "whether they were dear to the of Russia to turn into an overpowering might. tltegt,,ereell hadanything to recommend them lam not disposed to allow Russia to become possessed tel°,ll4lers, whic h Pt away by this new constitution of the most fertile portion of the globe, nor the most im yes -, th, , 111 of ICU Was e. i ntended to throw allpower portstit stations, because if that be done she will be no "w• It was more sweeping, more longer weak, she will no longer be able to submit to such s7Oei t% sh ed _re truly revolutionary, es or than anything measures as this country may think necessary, but, on the N,, l tall 00 ' zrences?asemplated even by the con- contrary, she will f are made a great stretch towards uni tt7o ~,,tlee htl ateee w i te 'taelf- The Hungarians might versal dominion. She will thte aten our Indian empire; she ett lee ,, that constitution had they not will cripple our commerce, and do us an irreparable injury, Se e h tli e t , 4 ttis In h c l b e " ci e utO their own ancient mode of and then force us into a sanguinary . war, of which there is ei tt t:e t wtsh e 4 d b eeta wfUoYed for centuries. If the now no danger, nor for whin is there any occasion. Russia liemeeftnith4A.tso represent t f h r a e n in t:o th r e e y volutionists their will never abandon her design of traditional aggrandise s eontitution vvhicrah'ight have been ment; but this is to be noted iu her, that though she 14101,11,"On but they like us, being be patient, and though she may aggrandise, not by con they had en- quest, but by insidious weans, yet whenever the of putting down liberty arises, then her self-possession, I , porfaa and providing for so large a body must have say, seems to abandon her, and then she seems no longer ; imposed upon them sacrifices and privations c f a very to act by slow and crooked means, but comes forward painful and extensive chaeacter. With regard to that promptly and impetuously in order to destroy all really more important transaction connected with the demand sound and wholesome reforms wherever she fieds for the refugees, that which took plea() between them. In 1791, what occasioned the last partition in the Governments of England and France on the Poland? The introduction of a reform so well con- one hand, and the Governments of Russia sidered and so promising in all its provisions as to call and Austria and the Government of Turkey on forth the eulogies of all writers and speakers who have the other, is generally so well known that little lived ever since. In 1829, w hy did s h e inte r f ere with remains far me to state which is not already within the Turkey? Because she saw T u rk e y engaged in intro- cognizance of the public at large. I shall be perfectly ducing salutary and staple reforms into the state. In ready to give such papers as will show the course we 1848, we find she interfered in Moldavia for the same pursued on that occasion. It is well known that after reason; and inlB49,only the other day,vvhen Hungary put the termination of the war in Hungary a very consider• forth the most legitimate of all claims to carry forward able number of persona Hungarians, Poles, and some that constitution which the people all enjoyed, Russia Italians, took refuge in the Turkish provinces. A de saw in prospect a great constitutional country, and she mend was made by the Governmeats of Austria and immediately lost no time in pouring in her hordes t f Russia cn Turkey for the surrender of such of those armed barbarians to crush th e cause . Sir, I re j o i ce th a t individuals as were Austrian or Russian subjects. That the magnanimity of the Sov e r e i gn an d t h e p rom pt de- demand was founded on the treaty of Kaimardji with cision and energy of my Noble Friend at the head of regard to Russia, and upon the treaty of Belgrade in Foreign Affairs have caused Russia to suffer a check regard to Austria. The Sultan, feeling that the oblige such as she has not experienced for a long time. tions of hospitality, which are considered avert more The Czar must, ind ee d, a t t hi s moment bi t - paramount, if possible, i n t h e E ast t h an i n any other terly i epent that he ever acted in a way part of the world, precluded him from complying with at once so revolting and stupid as to claim that demand, and looking at the terms of the treaty of the extradition of th e re f ugees f rom H ungary . Kaimardji, and seami ng t h at he had clearly an alternative, He was before triumphant, h e h a d ei ee ythin g hi s oen mad that the engagement contracted by that Ray, his army carrie 1 all before it, by its numbers and treaty permitted him t o c hoose that alternative, by the bribes which were scatterel; and being so sue- he refused to comply with the demand made cessful, he managed to stamp out liberty in Hungary, by Russia of surrendering those individuals, but he established a hold on ta e D anu bi an pr ov i n c es; every- stated that he was ready to fulfil the other condition of thing smiled upon him; but when he came to those the treaty, namely, that of expelling those individuals, brave but unfortunate refu g ees in Hungary, in order to chiefly Poles, from his territory. With regard to the satisfy his thirst for vengeance, to found a Noble demand of Austria, it certainly did net appear, by the Sovereign on the throne ot Tu r key, who magnanimou s ly treaty of Belgrade, that there was any condition which decided to act in opposition to his nefarious designs. required the Sultan to surrender Austrian subjects who His ambassador show e d a n i ns ol e nt tone and bearing, might have sought rouge within his territories; with and had the audacity to appear in person by f o r e the regard to Austria's demand, therefore, he was still more Sultan without uncovering his head.—(A laugh.) The at liberty to refuse compliance taan ho was with respect language employed by him was most offensive, and to the demand made by Russia. The manner in which though it has been said that the Russian ambassador those demands were made at Constantinople by the or did not exceed his instructions, I have reasons for be- gains of the Russian and Austrian Governments excited lieving that such was not the case, but that he was ordered alarm in the Government of Turkey as to the conic to employ almost the very terms and language that quences which might follow from a refusal to comply he did. The Emperor was determined to succeed, and with those demands, even though the Government of did exert his utmost influence, but all that influence was Turkey felt that they were not by treaty compelled or powerless, because th e Sultan was supported by the liable to comply with them. In that state of things the determination of the Government of this country. I say Turkish Government turned its eyes to those friendly then, honour to the Sultan, I say honour to the Brit s h powers to whom it might look for support, and an ap Minister who prevented so foul a deed disgracin g this peal was made to the Government of England, and also country. I know, Sir, many friends of Russia are die- to the Government of France, for their friendly posed to eulogise what they call the moderation of the support in the critical circumstances in which Czar in having desisted from his demands, but he has Turkey might find itself. Her Majesty's Government, simply taken a leaf out of the book of the fox, and find- acting, as I think they did, in strict unison with the uni ing he could not obtain what ho wanted because the versal feeling of the country, as it was manifested on British fleet was in the way, he altered his intentions. that occasion —(Hear, hear, and cheers)—determined to That was the true reason why he made the best he could give the Sultan the support which he had asked.— of his position, and said he would be content with som e (Cheers.) Friendly representations were made to the smaller concession. Though I have spoken in stron g Government of Austria and the Government ot Russia, terms of laudation of the determination not t o gi ve explaining the grounds upon which it appeared to her up Kossuth and his brave f o llo wers t o th e Majesty's Government that the Sultan was not bound fury of the Czar, I cannot ray that I a m to comply with the demands which had been made. It by any means satisfied with the result of th e is but due, however, to the Russian Government to state negotiation. lam not convinced that the fleet at th e that the Sultan having sent a special ambassador to St. Dardanelles has obtained all that ought to have been Petersburgh, for the purpose of requesting the Emperor obtained—that all has been accomplished that might to desist from the demand which he had made, and to have been accomplished. Although the Hungarians and accept the other alternative of the treaty—it is but due, Poles were not given up Ido not think that the people I say, to Russia to state, that the day before our friendly of this country will be satisfied with the fact that the representation reached St. Peterburgh, the Russian Poles are still expelled from Turkey, and will most Government had made a communication to the likely arrive here before long in a state of pitiable indi- Turkish ambassador, stating that Russia no gence, and moreover that Kossuth and his brave comps- longer insisted on demanding a surrender of the nions are to be kept in prison in Turkey for a consider- Poles, but consented to the alternative for their ex able time. Ido not think the people of this country will pulsior', There followed upon that, however, a long be satisfied with that—they will not be pleased to find negotiation with regard to the detailed conditions which that the Emperor of Russia in this, at least, has were proposed on the one side and objected to, in a had his way, because no doubt his aim is to prevent certain degree, on the other. Those negotiations ended them coming to this country, for he dreads the effect at last in an arrangement between the Turkish which their presence will have upon public opinion. I Government and the Emperor of Russia, by which the must say, therefore, that I think the Noble Lord ought Turkish Government agreed to expel, as by treaty it to produce to the House all the information fur which I was bound to do, the Polish refugees from the Turkish have asked with regard to this transaction, at least so territories. With regard to Austria, the Turkish Go far as the refugees are concerned. The Speech from vernment undertook to remove the Hungarians —not to the Throne tells us that the differences terminated antis- put them in prison, as my Noble Friend has stated, but factorily; but we want to know what has been done, to remove them to a distance from the Austrian ferrite and I say the House has a right to know what has been ries, and there detain tbemiunder that description of ob done in these matters, in order that it may exerc i se th at nervat i on o f which, happily, no English word conve y s supervision over the acts of the Government which the the meaning—under surveillance for a certain limited Noble Lord OS Russell) has on former occasions stated time. The diplomatic relations between Russia and to be its right and duty to exercise. —(Hear, hear.) Turkey have been re-established. Diplomatic relations Let us know what has been done, and I between Austria and Turkey were not actually re-estab tell the Noble Lord that all that was required has not Hatted, but there was every reason to suppose they been done; therefore let us know why it has not been would be within a few days after the last dispatches dune, and let us be assured that all that could be done came away. During the negotiations which took place has been effected.—(Hear.) I hope that the Noble at Constantinople the most perf•ct harmony and co- Lord will consent to the requests which I have made. operation existed between her Majesty's Ambassador I am sure he will do right to the country by so doing, and the Ambassador of the Republic of France, and he will give me leave to say, that it is both essential and no doubt it was greatly owing to the friendly to the House, and exceedingly desirable for his own offices of those diplomatic representatives that those character as a Minister, in order that he may stand questions, involving great difficulty and cum right with the people, and continue to enjoy that good plications of various kinds were brought to a sue opinion which lam happy to know he has now long en- cessful issue; and I at bound to say that it is impos joyed—(flear, hear)—that he should afford us all sible for any man to have acquitted himself in such difli the information which I have felt it n eces - cult circumstances, and in the execution of such an sary and consistent with my duty to require. arduous duty, with more ability, more judgment, and I the more earnestly call upon my Noble Friend on this more discretion, than Sir Stratford Canning had done occasion, because, in former times, he has been extremely in the task which it had fallen to his lot 'to perform. energetic in pressing other Governments to produce si- —(Che rs ) My Noble Friend has expressed an opinion miler information; and over and above this, Le has made in respect t o th e arrangement which has been made, it his boast that the Gov ernmen t s t o w hi c h he belonged, and has declared that that arrangement is not altogether more than any other, furnished information when it was satisfactory to his wishes and views. lam free to confess required by Members of this House.—(flear.) I trust, that if had been a matter depending solely upon the will therefore, that we shall have on all these subjects full and decision of her Majesty's Government, there are and complete information, which may enable us to form many circumstances connected with that arrangement a just and correct feeling upon them; for sure lam that that we should have wished to be different from what if the question remains in its present state the country the! turn out to be. But there were treat'ee to be ob will not be satisfied.—(Hear, hear.) Therefore I served—there were offers which had been spontaneously think it is absolutely necessary that all the inf wation made—engagements which had been voluntarily offered, that can be given should be afforded.—(Cheers.) The and which could not be altogether retracted; and acting Noble Lord concluded by moving an address fur copies under the circumstances as they bt ,od, and bearing in or extracts of any correspondence between the British mind that although it was desirable to support the Government and the embassies at Constantinople, St. Turkish Government in resisting the demands which it Petersburgh, and Vienna, respecting the demands of would have been unfitting for that Government to Russia and Austria for the extradition of Polish, Hun- comply with; yet, on the other hand, we should garian, and It Alan refugees; of any correspondence be- have been acting an uthiendly part if we had tween the Government of this country and the Govern- urged that Government to place itself, without ne ments of Turkey, Russia, and Austria, on the same sub- cessity, in the perilous position cf rupture jest; of any correspondence bet ween th e G overnment w ith i ts two great and powerful neighbours—consider of this country and the embassies at Vienna and S. ing, on the cue hand, the difficulties from which it was tersburgh respecting the late Hungarian war; of any cor- desirable to extricate the Turkish Government, and, on ; respondence between the Government of this country and the other hand, considering the concessions which the the Governments of Austria and Russia on the same sub- Turkish Government ought not ta be compelled to make, ject; copies of any proposal addressed by the late I believe the arrangement such as has been made is the national Government of Hungary to the Government of best which, under all the circumstances of the case, it Great Britain respecting the admission of British menu- was possible her Majesty's Governmeat could see ac factures and produce into Hungary; also, copies or ex- complished. None of the refugees have been given up., tracts of any correspondence between the Government The Polish part of them are free to depart to other por of this country and the Ambassadors at Constantinople tions of Europe, where they will be in a state of com and St. Petersburgh, and the Consuls at Bucharest and plete liberty; and those Hungarians who are for a time Jassy, respecting the occupation o f th e pr i nc i pa li t i es o f det a ined in the Turkish territory I hope will not be de the Danube by Russian troops; of any correspondence tained there long. At all events, I am quite satisfi, d between the Government of this country and the Go- that the Turkish Government, from it s g e n e rous f ee li ngs vernments of Turkey and Russia on the same subject; an d f rom it s sense of the duties of hospitality, will take and copy of the circular of Count Nesselrode, dated the care that while they are within its territories every at ttoiesacbcyepat•thhicehofftheerylahraeydeimstiandgeutioshehelim. him, and at 19th to the 31st day of July, 1848, addressed to the re- tention will be paid to them which is consistent with s b u e b g na t t express t th e naouhsoepesutchhat mo upon ni otnhse , and with the eminent presentatives of the Russian Government at the different their unfortunate position quali- Courts of Europe.—(Cheers.) Mr. ANSTEY seconded the motion.Noble o tf a F bthl r e i e e nwpdiatphweiorl without t c hobeneshienan has Lord PALMERSTON—My Noble Friend has tea- to 1 moved for as can be laid u P p yelled over so wide a field that I am persuaded the why itniswvetninamhyaspbower to accede to the motion in the House will not expect I s h ou ld f o ll ow hi m in detail injurious to the public interest. I trust the House will through all those various important transacti ons t o w hi c h b e li eve me when I sly that there are substantial reasons his speech has related. I can assure my Noble Friend that it is the wish of her Majesty's Government to give ANSTEY saideheenrved by my Noble Friend. all the information upon those transactions which transpired that evening, t: w a l a te o r tor m m e t the reason, opiniona fte r h what e h nd had ex it may be consistent with the public intere s t, and pr e ssed on a former occasion of the able conduct pur e. Hungarian and other refugees now in Government with respect to the consistent with those courtesies that are due between sued by her Majesty's Governments and countries, to afford. The motion Turkey. In this instance, and he trusted it would be so with which he bas concluded embraces so large extradition of th . on all similar occasions,_ they h a d br o ken through th a t a mass c f correspondence, comprising not only system of truckling to IS • all the confidential communications of her Ma- decessors in the Government ussia which hnd followed they and their pre for so many jesty's Government to our Ambassadors and Ministers years. He thought, too, that the noble sentiments ex abroad, but also communications between other Govern- pressed by the Sultan would not fail to make their due merits, of which knowledge may have been given to the impressiononthe Cabinet, and he hoped that it might Government of her Majesty, that I trust my Noble Friend be long and lasting, in thinking thatHe the e entirely agreed withon that hisN hadoble and the Hous© will think I tun not asking too much of friend effected was unsatisfactor aeeemni h edti e could not con ceal from himself th at the chi their forbearance if I entreat them not to press the motion unsat i sfactory; but difficulty to which the in the words in which my Noble Fri e nd h as p u t it, but N o bl e Lord the Foreign Secretary had adverted, almost to allow me to select out of that great mass of papers in express lan guage, was crea'ed by that treaty of 1841; such documents as may explain to the House the course and that with that treaty staring him in the face, our which her Majesty's Government has pursued, without Ambassador could not, nor could the Ambaesa for giving do'ails, which would be inconvenient to the pub. of France, offer to the Sultan that prompt and imme lic service, or laying before the H ouse th ose con fid ent i a l diate assistance which would have been necessary if communications that may have have passed b e t ween h e r the accommodation had been rejected and war had been Majesty's Government and her Ministers abroad, or be- proclaimed. TT --es must also ray that the result of the tween them and the Ministers of oth e r countr i es .— proceedings was due, not so much to our Ambassador (Hear, hear.) With regard to the wa r in Hungary, I and the Ambassador of France, as to the Prime Minis had an opportunity last session of stating the views ter of the Porte, and he trusted that her Majesty's Go which I entertain of that question. I can only say that vernment would learn from this a salutary lesson, and those feelings and opinions w hi c h I know ate e nt er - that in her future relations with Russia in respect to the tained upon that matter by the great majority of the hands as they did in 1841. With respect to the other people of this country are o pi n i ons an d f ee li ngs which Porte they would take care not again to fetter their own have done great credit to the coun t r y, an d w hi c h, I trust, part of the question alluded to by his Noble Friend, and I might almost say I know, no E ng li s hm a n will diff e r to which the greater part of the documents he demanded from its any respect whatever.—(Cheers.) At th e sa me related, he must say he could not understend upon what time lam sure the House will feel, that in a matter in principle it was that the Noble Lord the Foreign Sc which England had no direct right to interfere, the func- cretary, as well as every Minister, of whatever political tions of the British Government with regard to the di- complexion he might be, could come down to that House rection of ev en t s mus t b e necessar ily extr e mely limited. upon such an occasion and allege that the public service Therefore, h owever s t rong ma y b e the interest could possibly suffer from the publication uf the entire which the G overnmen t of E ng l an d, a s representing of every document indicated in the notice of his Noble the public opinion of this country, might take in those Friend. That observation applied particularly to the events, the House will naturally suppose that the active case of the Danubian principalities, for it ap interference of the British Government must necessarily peered that those documents were asked for have been restricted within limits, perhaps far more nar- with reference to the performance of a solemn row than those to which their feelings might wish them obligation entered into with the assistance at to exteed.—(Cheers.) With regard to the principali- least, if not by the mediation, of our own Sovereign in ties of Wallachia and Moldavia, my Noble Friend and the course of last year, the object of which, as his myself have discussed that question before. The House Noble Friend had said, and said truly, was to secure is aware that Russia does stand, in regard to those prin- peace in the principalities, and ensure the great object cipalities, upon a footing different from that upon which of our diplomacy—the maintenance of the Turkish the Government of one country usually stands in respect empire; but which had been violated by one party to it to provinces belonging to another country. There was —Christian Russia—whilst it had been observed by the concluded in the course of last year an arrangement—it other—anti-Christian Turkey. The Noble Lord said was not a treaty, it was an exchange of notes, standing that, although Russia had violated the treaty, it was in the shape of a convention —by which the two Govern- now going to be ker ; but it must be observed that the ments of Russia and Turkey engaged that the forces of time for its performance was the 31st of December, Russia and Turkey in those provinces should, after a 1849, which was now past, so that it was impossible that certain period, be reduced to the amount of 10,000 it could be strictly kept; and it appeared to him that th e men. My Noble Friend is correct in stating that th e House would req-sire s omething more than the assurance Turkish Government has carried that engagement of the Noble Lord that Russia had fixed some other day into effect, and that the Russian Gcvernment has not for its fulfilment. He trusted, however, that if Russia hitherto done so. I stated on a former evening that had done so, she would observe it with more fidelity I believed, and it is my conviction, that the Rus- than she had observed her recent engagement. There sian Government is about to carry that engageme .t into was, ho feared, every reason to believe that the small execution. My Noble Friend, perhaps, does not partake for operations would not be suffered to pass by, and that of my conviction. I can only say that the information the numerous forces now quartered onahe:people in that we have received very lately leads me to think that the Danubian principalities would at the approach of spring Turkish Ambassador recently sent to St. Petersburgh be employed by the Czar against this Sovereign power. has received an assurance to that effect from the Govern- Se that it was no question of time, but one • that called mont of Russia, and that the amount of the Russian for immediate decision. As to the other question—that troops in those provinces will very speedily be reduced which was lately pending, and now, unhappily, at an end, to 10,000 men. I can assure my Noble Friend that I between Austria and Hungary, he concurred in what fully agree with him as to the severe pressure which the had fallen from his Noble Friend. Ile would merely presence of those troops mutt occasion to the inhabit- observe that when the Noble Lord said that England had ants of those principalities. It is perfectly evident that no immediate right or obligation to interfere in the set the obligation under which they have been laid for sup- dement of that questbn, or to enforce the performance of that constitutional obligation which bound the House t f Hapsburgh to the people of Hungary, it must be remem bered that England guaranteed the Pragmatic Sanction adept >el by Hungary; he meant the constitutional prero gatives of the House of Hapsburgh on the one hand, and the constitutional rights of the people of Hungary on the other; and, having wasted our bleed and treasure in support of it, we had a right, if not a duty, to see that the stipulations then accorded to that people by that House were performed. After a short pause, as no other Hon. MernLer rose, Lord DUDLEY S WART said, as his Noble Friend had assured him that he was prepared to lay on the table of the House a considerable number of the documents moved fir, if the motion were withdrawn, and the selec tion left to himself, he should be very happy to accept that arrangement; but before doing so he should like to know whether the Noble Lord meant to give some papers on each of the different transactions to which he had alluded, whether he would give some of the correspon dence with, rega-d to the Hungarian war, some with regard to the Moravian question, ald whether he woull give the proposal of sub:ins:don made by the Hungarian Governor; nt. lie should like to know %%hat the offer was, and what he had to expect, before he agreed to accept it. The Noble Lord had said he did not expect that thme persons would be de tained and deprived c f their Ebert . ) for any length of time; that their captivity, for it was nothing else, would at least be short; and he had also expressed his per suasion that the solerosity cf the Turkish Government would be such as to take care that, during the time they were kept in its territory, they should receive every pro iestion and every comfort they could desire. He hoped so too; but he vi as not quite convinced that it was in the power of the Turkish Government to provide either for their com'ort or their protection white they were in Turkey. It was known that the Austrian Cirovernment was unscrupulous in the means to which it resorted to obtain its ends; witness Gallicia, and the scenes which had occurred in Hungary, at the insti gation of Austria, of which he had read a description in the early part of the evening. In Austria such a thing had happened before now, so that persons disagreeable to certain Governments had been put out of the way by assassination.—(Hear, bear.) He had information to the effect that something of the kind had been attempted—at any rate, had been planned—with regard to Kossuth, and other eminent Hungarians now detained in Turkey. Some months ago he had this from a person who was then present with Kossuth at Widdin: —A stranger arrived there, and took great pains to come into communication with the cook who dressed the food supplied to Kossuth, and with the physician vi ho ren dered bim bis medical assistance. And shortly after it was found that some of the liquor which came to the table had been practised on, and had had something infused into it which gave great suspicion that poison was intended. Later on, in December, a number of persons were reported to have arrived at Shumla, where Kossuth and his brave companions then were; these persons were Austrians, or a t l east f urn i she d with Austrian passports, and the Turkish authority gave notice to Kossuth that they had reason to believe these persons had come to Shumla with a design upon his life and that cf some of his companions. Having given this notice (which he knew from Kossuth himself), the Turkish Government added that they were unable to interfere with those persons whose murderous inten tions they suspected, on account of their being fur nished with Austrian passports. If this was the pro tection and comfort which these unfortunet s but noble and brave, patriots were to en j oy d ur i ng their cap tivity, or during that species of surveillance which it pleased the Emperor of Russia to subject them to, there was no reason to be by any means satisfied with the arrangement that had been made. And he rather thought that the Sultan, if any such proceedings could be brought home to the Austrian Government, would be perfectly justified in departing from any en gagement to which he had come with reference to those refugees and immediately set them at liberty. Nay, more, if he could not protect them in his dominions, he was bound, doubly bound, to set them at liberty. He trusted the Noble Lord would direct his attention to this matter, and would use his influence with Turkey in order that Turkey might see these men, who were im prisoned under the requirements of a treaty, which treaty, however, was not so positive that it might not be read two ways, might not be assassinated in her do • minions. It was very true that they had no right to press on Turkey a particular line of policy, however desirous they might be to do so in the present case; but they had a right at the same time, to ace that Turkey was not compelled by any other power to adopt a line of conduct which would be pleasing to that power. He was happy to say that the Noble Lord had exerted that right most efficiently.—(Hear, hear.) But his Noble Friend might be sure that, although they bad no right to dictate to Turkey, there was a thorough persuasion in the minds of the people of this country, that such was the influence of England with Turkey, they would not believe that Turkey would adopt any line cf policy which would be disagreeable to this country. And if they saw the Turkish Government disposed to falter in the noble cause in which they had so nobly embarked, they would not be brought to believe that it was not owing to her not being properly sustained by the legitimate influence of England.—(Eleer, hear.) He should b e g l a d if hi s Noble Friend laid before them such papers as might be satisfactory. Lord C. HAMILTON said that there was nothing in the Noble Lord's first address which called for any serious observation. Any person acquainted with the history of Hungary must be aware of the extraordinary errors into which the Noble Lord had fallen; and the condition of the House—the empty benches, and the frigid manner in which page after page of t h e o b serva • tions he had read to the House from a bulky manu script ,were received by the few who remained to hear him, demonstrated the little interest which was felt in the subject ; but for the honour of the House and the country, he (Lord C. Hamilton) hoped he would be supported in calling upon the Noble Lord, if he believed in the truth of the insinuations which he had thrown out against the Austrian Go vernment of entertaining the base and inhuman design of assassination, to come forward like a man and make the charge distinctly and without circum locution.—(hear, hear.) Au accusation of such ex taime gravity ought not to be introduced into a sort of reply made on withdrawing a motion. The Noble Lord had withdrawn the usual phrases of an old wo man's tale, "it was strongly reported," and " it was seriously believed," that somebody came to the place where Kossuth of as residing, and had a mysterious in terview with his cook, and, because the wino afterwards was supposed to present an unusual appearance, it was assumed that it had been tampered with.—(Hear, and a laugh.) It was derogatory to the dignity of the House that such a gross charge should have been insinuated by one of its Members against an old ally of this country, and one which in past days had stood by us bravely and faithfully.—(Hear.) What! impute ti the Emperor of Austria the intention of carrying off by poison unfortunate men whom circumstances had com pelled to take refuge in Turkey.—(Hear.) The House must, he was sure, have listened with indignation to the base calumny directed rgainst a Government which, with all its faults—and he %as not there to approve of all the proceedings of Austria—had always acted in an upright and open manner, and had often been to this country a useful and faithful ally.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He would stake his existence as to the groundlessness of the charge, which could only have entered into the mind of a man who, like the Noble Lord, was ready to swallow anything against Austria. —(llear, hear, and laughter.) Of course the Noble Lord was not the originator of the atrocious calumny; he was merely put forward by others to utter it; but the Noble Lord baring insinuated it in an assembly of gentlemen, in a hesitating manner, whilst withdrawing a motion, he (Lord C. Hamilton) felt that it would not have redounded to the credit of the House if some one had not stood up and called upon the Noble Lord either to make the ac cusation openly and explicitly, or to withdraw it wholly. —(Hear, hear.) To show the state of misty ignorance in which tie Noble Lord existed with respect to the Hungarian question, it was only necessary to remind the House that the Noble Lord had spoken of Hungary as having been always an independent nation and in pos session of a constitution. The Noble Lord had evidently never heard that for more than a cent try Hungary vs at unders he dominion of the Porte—that a Turkish Bashaw dictated laws to her from Bud, and that the house of Hapsburgh drove b ac k th o Turk, and restored her con stitution to Hungary. With respect to the murders committed at Vienna and Pesth, which the Noble Lord represented to to the unpremeditated acts of a mob, it was well known that they were planned and determined on befsrehand.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. COCKBURN said he hoped his Noble Friend would not press his motion, but would rest satisfied with the assurance of the Noble Lord (Palmerston), that he would produce such papers as would throw a sufficient light on the course of policy pursued in these matters. Otherwise it would seem to him that his Noble Friend would imply a doubt of the perfect propriety of the course of conduct adopted by her Majesty's Government. He thought the explanations given by the Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, on the preterit occasion, and on a former occasion, when he made a speech that gave great satisfaction in the country, should be a suffi cient guarantee that the course pursued by her Majesty:a Government, and by the Noble Lord, towards Austria and Russia, in the present instance, was such as became the honour, the dignity, and the interests of this country.—(Hear, hear.) And therefore he thought his Noble Friend ought to be satisfied with such papers as might be produced by the Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs.—(Hear.) He should not have trespassed on the House on the pre sent occasion were it not for the extraordinary speech of the Noble Lord opposite.—(Hear.) He could quite well understand that a difference of opinion might exist as to the right and justice of the struggle in which Austria had btea engaged with Hungary. But whilst he al lowed that a difference of opinion might exist on that point between Hop. Members of that House, he did not mean it to be inferred that he did not himself consider that the cause for which Hungary engaged in that frightful struggle with Austria n+ as one of the greatest and most righteous in which any country could be in volved.—(Cheery.) He believed it to be a struggle for the maintenance of an ancient constitution and cal blished laws, and that it was improperly and unjustly designale I by terming it a rebellion against a lawful So vereign.—(lli a-, hear.) He was not, however, going to enter upon the discussion of that mater now. But when, afer what had taken place—after Austria had, by the aid of foreign bayonets and foreign hordes—(hear, hear)—succeeded in putting down the Hungarian cause —when they recollected what had since passed—the frightful executions and the bloody murders which en sued—(Cheers)—he was surprised to hear an English gentleman and nobleman, with a zeal worthy of a better cause, but discreditable when employed in such a cause as that which the Noble Lord had just pleaded, enter upon the &fence of Austria after the conduct of which she hal been guilty before the world.— (Hear, hear.) He held in his hand a publication by went of the number of Austria herself—an official &mu executions since the termination of; the struggle, and he had no hesit ttion in calling it one of the foulest and bloodiest death rolls that he ever cast his eye upon.-- (Hear, hear.) After Hungary had fallen —not by the power of Austria—(Hear, hear)—but after she had fallen by the intervention of Russia, a foreign invasion and domestic treason.—(Hea., hear.) When Austria had succeeded by these means, and when, if at all times the victorious party should show forbearance, there never was a time when forgiveness and forbearance were more appropriate and necessary, Austria entered upon those bloody and atrocious executions which were a dis grace to humanity, at least in modern times.—(Lond cheers.) Ile confessed he felt the greatest surprise at hearing any person defending and advocating Austria in these abominable proceedings.—(Hear, hear.) He would read a list of t lose executions, and the House would, he was sift e, feel horror-struck at the noble and illustrious blood shed on this occasion:— EXECUTIONS AND PUNISHMENTS. I. Ciluxot. 1. Mr. Raz ga , Lutheran clergyman June. at Presburg, hangel in 2. Mr. Meszaros, Catholic priest, shot at Raab, end of June. 3. Mr. Gonczewsky, Catholic priest, shot at Pesth, in October. 4. Mr. Rudnyanszky, Catholic Bishop of N to five years' imprisonment. 5. Mr. Bartakovics, Catholic Bishop of Rosenau 6. Mr. Lonovics, Archbishop of Erlau 7. Mr. Baron Berner, Bishop of Gross wardein 8. Mr. Jaros, Great Prior of Gran 9. Mr. Levay, Great Prior of Erlau 10. Mr. Pupovics, Greek Bishop of Munkacs 1 t. Mr. Haubner, Lutheran Bishop, dead in prison. 12. Mr. Packb, Lutheran I.iishop, hidden in the mountains, prosecuted by the Hue and Cry. 13. Mr. Michael Toth, Calvinist clergyman at Debreczin (the most eloquent preacher), sentenced to 18 years' imprisonment in heavy irons. 14. Mr. Horwath, Catholic Bishop of Csanad 15. Mr. Jekelfalussy, Catholic priest of Zipsen Refugees. 16. Baron Mednyaoszky, Catholic canon 11. STATE. 1. Count L ou i s Batthyanyi, Prime Minister, tried by court martial and shot at Pesth ; his estates confiscated. 2. Baron Perenyi (upwards of 70 years of age), President of the House of Lords, and Judge of the Supreme Court, hanged at Pesth ; estates confiscated. 3. Baron Jeszenak, Second Lieutenant of the county of Iceutra, hanged ; estates confiscated. 4. Mr. Csanyi, Minister under Kossuth, hanged; estates confiscated. 5. Mr. Petocz, High Sheriff of the county of Presburg, shot at Presburg. 6. Mr. Szacsvay, Secretary of the Diet, hanged at Pesth. 7. Mr. Csernus, Counsellor of the Treasury, hanged at Pesth. 8. Mr. Novak, Secretary in the Home-office, shot at Pesth. 9. Count Leopold N a d as d y, Privy Councillor, Lord L'eute nant of the county of Comorn, imprisoned for four years, sentenced to pay a tine of 14,0001. 10. Count Stephan Karolyi, imprisonel for four years, fined 14,000'., Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Pesth. 11. Count Raday, Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Nograd, imprisoned fvr two years. 12. Count George Karolyi, fined 10,030/. for hay' great joy at the arrival of the Hussars. 13. Mr. Marczibanyi, Lord-Lieutenant of Trencsei of the Commoners of Hungary, fined 2,000', The number of the shot and imprisoned of station is much greater. !usol, sentenced In prison ur der trial for high treason; they are tried by court martial. ing shown the firs no high 111. ARMY. General Kiss, shot at Arad. 2. General Dessiiffy, shot at Arad. 3. General Schweidel, shot at Arad. 4. General Torok, shot at Arad. 5. General Lazar, hanged at Arad. 6. General Knezich, hanged at Arad. 7. General Count Leiningen, hanged at Arad. 8. General Count Vecsey, hanged at Arad. 9. General Nagy Sandor, hanged at Arad. 10. General Aulich, hanged at Arad. 11. General Laner, hanged at Arad. 12. General Poltenberg, hanged at Arad. 13. General Damianich, hanged at Arad. 14. Colonel Kazinczy, shot at Arad. 15. Colonel Prince Woroniecky, hanged at Pesth. 16. Colonel Orman hanged at Pesth.. 17. Colonel Soil, shot at Pesth. 18. Colonel Baron Mednyansky, hanged at Presburg. 19. Colonel Gruber, hanged at Presburg. 20. Major Abancourt, hanged at Presburg. 21. Major Giron, han ge d a t P res b urg. 22. Major Fekete, hanged at Pesth. 23. Major Murmann, shot at Temesvar. 24. Major Lepier, shot at Pancsova. 25. General Mega Imprisoned from five to eigh 26. General Count Lathr,} 27. General G as p ar , years. 28. Lieutenant Field-Marshal Hrabowszky, under trial. " Some fifty colonels sentenced to eighteen years' imprison ment in heavy irons; some thirty lieutenant-colonels and majors to sixteen years in heavy irons. All the officers of the Hungarian army who had not served before in the Austrian army were sent to the army as private soldiers, whs can be flogged by the simple order of their officer. This is the case with Count Stephan Esterhazy ; Baron Frederic Podmaniczzky; Count Gustav Batthyanyi, the son of the Count, well known in England; of Baron Liptay, of Mr. Paul Csuzy, and a hundred others. " Many more than the above mentioned were shot, but the sentence has not been always (officially) published. The sen tences of the above were published offic.ally. In the pre sence of the Emperor Francis Joseph, at Raab, two men were shot, a student and a Jew, for sympathising with the Hun garians. His Majesty did nothing to stop these cruelties." In addition to these individuals two women of rank, the daughter of the Bishop Haubner, of Rub, and Mrs. Ma derspach, at Ruskberg, were sentenced to be flogged. And not only was sentence passed, but it was actually carried into execution.—(Hear, hear.) And in the Lice of all this were they to hear it said that the Noble Lord was t) blame when he asked for some security that pro tection would be given to the unfortunate refugees that their lives should not be practice 1 upon, if not by the Austrian Government, and at their instigation, at least by Austrian subject 4, who perhaps knew what would be most an ' T(eAblo t) their G overnment ?—(l.lear, hear.) nib Noble Friend merely stated a feet, namely, that the Turkish Government had given notice to Kos suth that persons arm. d with Au.t'ian la4s ports, and whom the Turkish Government was therefore impotent to remove, came to Turkey for the purpose cf practising on Kossuth's lif That view was corroborated by subsequent flcts, and the Noble Lord was perfectly justified in stating the matt r to the House, and in asking the Noble Lord the &ere tar,' for Foreign Affairs for an assurance that this country would at all events take all the pre3autions in its power to protect these unfortunate refugees, against being de livered up to the mercy of persons who, if not actually employed by the Government and Ministry of Austria or liussie, well knew how they could best conciliate those Governments.—(hear, hear.) Being in possession of the greatest of all blessings, constitutional freedom itself, this country felt, and the Noble Lord (Palmerston) felt for those who were struggling for constitutional liberty. But whilst this country was prepared t gii e a moral support to those who were engaged in such a noble and holy struggle, he admitted they were not in a condition to go to war or to interfere by force of arms in their behalf. It would, however, offer them the shield and protection of public opinion in England whilst en gaged in a contest for those liberties which, happily for them, their f trefathers had gained, and which he trusted their descendants would ever maintain.—(Cheer.) Mr. DISRAELI said, that although the House must doubtless be desirous that this unnecessary debate should be brought to a close, the tone taken by the Hon. and 1 - 4( awned Member who had just spoken made it necessary for him (Mr. Disraeli) to say a word in vindication of what he conceived to be the proper course taken by his Noble Friend (Lord C. Hamilton) near him.—(Hear, hear.) Before proceeding further, however, he must congratulate .the Hon. and Learned Member and his friends on the sympathy they felt with precedents of the House of Lord., with the Church in genera', and with bishops in particular.—(Hest-, hear.) Such indications of right feeling could not fail to be very satisfactory to tho Conservative party.—(A laugh.) Tho Hon. and Learned Member had read to the House a list of some of the victims of the unhappy and unfortunate civil war which had taken place in Hungary. All must deeply de plore such events, but it was impossible for them, sitting in that House, to form any political opinion on the cir cumstances. There was nothing in the facts stated to show whether the victims were victims to their own in judicious and evil courses, or heroes and martyrs. Open the " History of England," and you would find a list of confiscations and executions which had taken place ever since the preseat Royal Family, to which we were so much indebted for liberty and progress, acceded to the throne.—(Hear, hear.) Would it be fair to refer to the execution of the unfortunate Earl of Derweet water, and the confiscation of his estates, and also the execution of the accomplished Balmerino, and say, " Look at the horrors committed by this dynasty, which could only substantiate its position by such atrocities?"— (Hear, hear.) The list of executions read by the lion. and Learned Member, even if it were authentic, was no thing more therefore than might be found in our own history, at no very distant da'e. But it was unnecessary to go back to 1740. The echoes of the speech of the Hon. Member for Inverness-shire in the debate of yester day were yet ringing in the House.—(Hear.) In Ceylon the executions ordered by courts-martial had, it ap peared, been carried into effect with such a want of dis crimination, that the judges themselves acknowledged that in many instances the victims were not criminals. Might it not be said " What cen you think of a Govern meat which sanctions such proceedings, and what of the state of society which tolerates such a Govern ment?" In his opinion his Noble Friend was perfectly justified in expressing his indignation at the speech of the Noble Member fur Marylebone.—(Hear, hear.) If the Noble Lord felt a conviction that the charge he had made against the Austrian Government was founded on fact, he ought to have given it a much more pro minent place in the discussion.—(Hear.) As it was, the Noble Lord introduced into the epilogue of the enter tainment of the evening an insinuation that an old ally of her Majesty meditate I murder and assassination. veet I Now, that w as a; unwarranta bl e a proceedin t ga took place in th a t House.—(Hear, bear.) f the Noble Lord believed that the Austrian Government w med e i r t e ated the assassination of unarmed individuals, to aßr certainiti s c la r f d t h h i his Fur his (Mr. Disraeli's) h Government, extent paced lie under theto have. protection d belief in his opening speec h. h. d c i x se pre w ss i e t d ee h l ! indignation r h a u tio p n er w fe h ct ie ly b u h n is de N rs o t b oo le d l a , n ri d en s d ym h p a a d t to Noblethg enerale Member f fur ! s a t i r u y i; ( t H 'in ear, conduit hearo of A he s Fifi nti e en. t —g he House, nothing could be more gratifying to him than to find so general a feeling prevailing in favour of the integrity of the Turkish empire. He had always maintained that the integrity of that empire was essential to the peace and permanent prosperity of the civilized world; but whilst advocating that view it had te?n his fortune to find himself in a minority. It was now 25 years since the Liberal party, in total ignorance of what be would not call that fallen, but that feeble, power —in total ignorance of its political and social condition —in total ignorance of its resources, of its laws, and of its constitution—in total ignorance of the genius of its people and of the necessity of its existence to the stabi lity o f states, commenced It course of hostility towards , t 4.? it; and it was only lately they had discovered tha t they were in error in exciting the passions of Europe againis a generous people.—(llear.) It was the Liberal party which had lashed up the sympathies ef Christendom till their policy ended in the tatastrophe of Navarine. th ( ha f (H h.) e a t a r c , koeu l nl i d e t a h r eb . )0 op p or t un i ty A n o nd d ir having i6i done a ll thi s mischief they oonf_mtaokdinogwahmato?tioln oonexpwhriesaiele the sympathy of England with a great country on that which the ignorance and prejudice of England, occasioned! —he e w i o e u ve ld d not say sraeysotuhrecesfaloileTnusiteeyowf were verb a n d stimulated by themselves, had caused. The state 0£ latterly Tkey because he t 1 . rse and under the Government which it had waatstecrayutseexdpbeyrietnhceeidnwtreigreuebsettfe.radevLe.l,oped than they t ha; land. The Noble Lord the °Mee iber" also came fore ard to denouncealbtheer ever been—but he should say the cri ti cal state of Turks f .ambition I party tn. tiaorny o l f : rb o n enn g e i . lighten the House on th e whicnah an f ce , uvres of Russia, retiree. Pityrotywer howerreryears had played into sentcd the very was unconsciously, and vs hieh had et u e n l c te o d neiFiously, it it try a most inveterate prejudice against the hands of that conduct and hisbscl friends b ee w a as a t h a t a el d Tl presentordreasnuditin this corm bea de t matter character of the Turki.h Government. that t t i h t e ft: e lo s is ot thattile the No b le L opened to the errors of the course they haft so lon sued. These barr e n motions, brought tyretvird gongeepuiy rl in a scanty Hause, might r ea ll y serve as recap teetifionsa b y the Liberal pa , ty of their diplomatic ignorance; and be congratulated tl e Noble Lard the Secretary for Forei gn Affairs, who on this subject had had a very hard time of it, on the debate of to-night—in Particular when a Member of that House, who on entering it b ad mg naliz•d himself by the impeachment of the Noble Lord, was now found prepared to do justice to that Noble Lord f,r the admirable readiness with which he had come forward to vindicate the interests of the Turkish empire. He (Mr. Disraeli) had nut considered she Noble Lord a traitor or given hint credit for thos e Cons summate abilires which some who had before denounced him were ready to attribute to the Noble Lord. But the Noble. Lord, he had always thought, might, gene rally speaking, have managed affairs pretty well, had it not beea for the Liberal party in this House who first hallooe I the country on against Turkey, and when they had done' almost incalculable mischief turned round and declared that the existence of Turkey was essential to the best interests of Europe. As regarded foreign affairs, he recognised in that party the peculiar charac teristic which the Noble Lord the First Minister had described as the characteristic of their policy in domestic affairs when he spoke of it as the policy of very con tracted minds. They had imperfect knowledge. Un fortunately they possessed some power, which they used for dangerous purposes; and fur the last six or seven years they had taken every opportunity of coining for ward to uphold the interests and vindicate the cause of a power, namely, Turkey, the critical state of which was entirely attributable to the excited passions of Europe, which they had raised against the interests of that country, and to their total ignorance how important the existence and maintenance of the Ottoman empire was to Europe. Sir D. L. EVANS was confident that the emancipa tion of the Greek people was an event which neither the majority of that House, nor the majority of the nation, would look back to with regret.—(Hear, hear.) His Noble Friend had been accused of historical ignorance; but when the assettlon of his Noble Friend, that Hun gary had an ancient constitution, was contradicted, he ventured to say without making any preten sions to historical knowledge, that the assertion hoe plied no ignorance whatsoever. The constitution of Hungary was an old one. [Lord C. HAMILTON—" I never said the contrary."] That was one of the points on which ignorance was imputed. The Noble Lord alluded also to the misfortunes of the Hungarians in the wars with Turkey. But he forgot that the Hungarians con ferred benefits on Austria similar to those which he said Austria had conferred on Hungary. Ile forgot to tell the House that John Sobieski was the man who re lieved Vienna, and saved Austria. Was it, or was it not, that Hungary had possessed one of the most ancient constitutions in,Earope? [Lord C. HAMILTON—" Cer tainly."] With reference to the execution of Hun garians by the Austrian Government, the Hon. Member for Buckinghamshire spoke of the uncertainty of infor mation on such matter?, and thence concluded that they ought not to indulge in strictures on the Austrian Go vernment. He alluded to what i , ad occurred in Ceylon and the lonian Islands ; but, if severities had been in« flitted in these two dependencies of this country, was there any reason to believe that they would be vindicated by a majority of that House?—(Hear, hear.) That one of the most bloody and horrible lista of punishments ever put on record should be treated so lightly as it had been attempted to be treated by the Hon. Gentleman was a matter of extreme astonish meat. The Government of Austria stood distinguished from the others as being the only Government in Eu rope which bad bombarded every great city in :its do minions. He was glad to find that Hon. Gentlemen bad not uttered a single word in disapproval of the con. duct of her Majesty's Government on the subject of de • bate—(Hear)—and he hoped it would go forth to the country and to Europe that this House unanimously ap proved of the judicious and discreet course which her Majesty's Government had pursued.—(Hear.) Lord C. HAMILTON had never said the Hungarian constitution was act an old one. It Sock date terra years after Magna Charta was granted, namely, in the 3ear 1222. Ile heard the Noble Lord (Lord D. Stuart) say the Hungarians were always ineependent, and al -1 ways enjoyed that constitution. The ignorance charged a4ainst the Noble Lord was that he did pct seem t'.) be aware that at the first battle of Mohair the Turks appended Hungary to their empire, that for a century and a half a Turkish pasha dictated laws from Buda, and that the anti . nt constitution was restored to Hungary by the house of Hapsburgh. Sir H. 11. INGLIS otierved, that whatever support the Hungarians might have given to the house of Haps burgh, John Sobieski at least was nt t a Hungarian. — (Hear, hear.) He rose merely to make the remark, lest it should go forth that these statements of the lion. and Gallant Gentleman (Sir De Lacy Evans) had, by pass ing uncontradieted, rezeived the unanimous assent of the House of Commons. Sir D. L. EVANS had said nothing with respect to the nativity cf . John Sobieski, but he believed that Hun garian troops were chiefly instrumentality on that occa sion in rescuing Vienna.—(Hear.) Mr. M. MILNES was surprised that the Honourable Member for Buckinghamshire, skilled as he was in his torical facts, should have recalled the great events of 1745, when the royal race, the Constitution, and the Church were threatened, without stating that only three noblemen were put to death, and certainly not more than 25 persons were executed. That took place 100 years ago, and if Austria were content to go back to that period, ttcy must be permitted to regard her as 100 years behind the age.—(H ear .) Wh en the present sub jest came before the Assemby cf a neighbouring power, where the majority was conservative, no single voice was raised to vindicate or pal iate the proceedings of the Austrian Government.—(Hear, hear.) He could not avoid animadverting on the imprudence of the vio lence shown by that Government, as regarded the well being of the Austrian empire. Was the rive of Atotria and Hungary one that could be viewed with satisfaction? It was the interest of this country that Austria should exist as a compact empire. They must, therefore, re gard the events of the last few years with dismay, and desire to implore the Administration cf Austria to re trace its steps and adopt measusea which 111)uld have the effect of obliterating in some degree the feelings c f bit;- terness which had arisen among different portions of the empire. Mr. GRATTAN rose to adduce another instance of punishment inflicted under the authority of the Aus trim Government in order to allow the Noble Lord the Member for Tyrone (Lord C. Hamilton) another opportunity of displaying his generous humasity and fine national feeling. Th e case was described in a paper which was from authority—not from a bishop or a president, but—a lady.—(Laught,r, and a cry of " Question I") Question? It was the question.—(Herr, hear.) He should like to see she Member who called " Questionl"—(A laugh.) The document was what he had a right to read. It was a letter from an Hungarian Countess, and said—" In our immediate neighbourhood an army of Hungarians, amounting to 10,000 men, with 40 cannons, surrendered at discretion. Two days after wards some Imperial troops, a detachment of Liechten stein's Light Horse, commanded by 'a captain, u native of this town, entered Ruskley. I was.torn from the arms of my husband and children, from the hallowed sanc tuary of home, and hurried before no judge—but I, a woman, a wife, a mother, in my own nat i ve town, before the people, who were accutt tmed to tr. at we with re spect, was dragged into a square c f soldiers, and there I was scourged with rods." Was there any one in that House who could listen to the narrative of suck an out rage without indignation? Had the Noble Lord com mon feelings of humanity, that he could rise in that House and desecrate its sanctuary by parasitical adu'a lion of women-floggers? She proceeded,—" I ran write this without dropping my head for shame. But my hut- band killed himself. He drew a pistol and shot himself." That letter was signed by the Countess de Maders frach. There was a time when, in such a a cause, "a thousand swords," to use the language of Burke, " would have leaped from: their scabbards in her de fence." If the Marchioness of Abercorn were taken and floggei before the Grenadier Guards, what would the Noble Lord think? Or what would he say if the Duchess of Devonshire were taken and flogged in the streets of Le,ndon?—(Cheers and laughter.) Who with a laugh on his face could hope to walk through the streets of London without being spit upon by the women and children for base unfeeling sentiments? They m i g ht yet succeed, before the end of the session, in call ing up a blush cf shame to the cheek of the Noble Lord. lie had seen another lady, the Countess Wolkonski, whose bust and was a frit nd cf the Duke of Wf llington; he La I seen her selling her diamonds to procure the means of subsistence. It was the emperors who sanc tioned ench atrocities that were thought worthy of praise in that assembly. They began by bribing Goergey they went on to murderinz Batthyany, and he should not to surprised if they ended by poisoning Kossuth. Those northern eagles were fit emblems of those doub'e necked tyrants—(A. laugh)—tha had pounced on Hun gary to destroy its independence. Thank God he had lived to utter his execration of those is rants! Ile never could think them anything but murderers with diadems on their heads; and if they poisoned this atmosphere with their pestilential principles and presence, he trusted there was spirit enough in the British lion to humb!e them and repel them from these shores.—(Cheers.) REPRESENTATION OF KENSINGTON. Mr. MACGREGOR, having risen for the purpose of bringing forward his motion for erecting Kensington, Chelsea, Fulham, and Hammersmith into a Parliamen tary borough, Major BERESFORD presented a petition from Sud bury, praying for the restoration of the franchise to that borough. Mr. MACGREGOR hoped the House would have the awe patience with him Which they had had with the FRIDA Y EVENING, FEBRUARY B, 1850 a. 14 .2 8 .'! :53 10...