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LEG E: R. 5 to 1 agst Weatherbit 5 to 1 agst Merry Monarch 18 to 1 agst Pantaaa 20 tJ 1 agst Pam SIX O'CL , WK. , AILWAY COMMITTEES (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OF LORDS. EREWASH VALLEY LINE. the The Committee met at eleven th morning, Lord Lyttelton in , Chair After a short discussion is as to the admissibility of evi -"..,ce 4 , to a li ne not before the Committee, ult. MACAULAY suggested that the most regular course wou ld b e for Mr. Calvert to object to some particular question, and the point ":" i °R been ra i se d i n this manner, it could be argued at l engt h , -"the Committee would then give a formal vote on the subject. „ The CH AIRMAN observed that Mr. Calvert had said y ester d ay c, at he was u nw illi ng to take an objection. If the counsel did not - atse the point, the Committee hail a right to do as. - h 1 t would arise in the course of th ACAULA sae. t tle po. be much mo eb e e e se, and that 1 it would then te convenient to discuss Point. The Committee b e i ng o f t h e same opinion, the point was re. -er ved, and the evidence was resumed. r • Wm. Wilsn, a resdent t lfrdtown, and M. arding a ;, - "ent at Ilcano o r, were i then a called A , e and gave local ev H , in idence "to dents of the line. 4 r. Jessop, engineer, was then examined, and corroborated the tevid enee of 51r. Woodhouse and Mr. Bidders. The proposed line ", fi rst laid don by Mr. R enn i e , i n t h e year 18 34. Mr. Vig 'ielles w had laid d own a s i milar line in 1835, but it was on a higher :repel than Mr. Rennie's, and was, therefore, opposed by the colliery T er & The witness laid down the present line in the year 1843, )C,. i t was the same as Mr. Rennie's, except that some deviations a bee n Ti made at the desire of various coal pit proprietors. wie witness was under cross-examination by Mr. Macaulay when ent to press. Z °ee ected to state that he was engaged in draining the fens of rt‘ecoltishire, on which he engaged seventeen engines, of 900 horse t ell ," in the agregate. Draining was much retarded by the ex. e on e t which would be materially decreased by a reduction in the by 4 ,,, <1f ue1• The proposed line would render coals much che a p er , a cheaper and readier transit. 1741 witness having been cross examined by Mr. MACAULAY, tea Vi gnolles was called, and gave evidenc e in support of that of J 4 , 0 1 ' Woodh ouse and Bidder, given yesterday, and of Mr. the given this morning. This line was originally proposed by 1 4, -land Company. spok e ' ll Unsom, the Ch a i r m an (p ro t em .) o f t h e M idland Company, efth, t ° au agreement between that Compa n y an d t h e promoters e :, e r tll., to the effect that tire former were to construct the line, 14, ,000/ n ion of th e l atter ta ki ng stoc k of them to the amount of BIT. '?'his •oo dhouse was recalled, and spoke t o th e same agreement. Air Concluded the case for the promoters of the Bill. ALIEXANDER then opened the ease for the opponents of the 411,4 eddressing the Ceinmi tee at great length. The first w it ness k r b j Mr. Alexander was tate "elentine, engineer, who was about to descri be the Amber. Wh eo u tei and to point out its advantages over the proposed line, , 1,4, t SLI'ZR'r objected to the examintion of a witness as to an y h at befor e the Committee. tlsrioer'. laca t r i , Av replied, and urged the p ro p r i e ty o f ca lli ng evi -114,,,_( Prove that a better line might be, and is likely t o b e , ma d e Aft tlhthe same vicinity. I% era e li ng disc ussion the CHAIRMAN desired the room to be ;') e nd, a ft er consulting for a few minutes, sia '°llunittee decided that it was not competent for counsel to Ihltlskat t ," a wit ness as to to the details of any particular line, but "e ° P o nents of a Bill m i g ht g i ve ev id ence as to t h e proba. h efr i i . . e nt' soine line b e i ng made wh i ch would be preferable to that e lso the Committee. Th e w it ness m i g ht b e examined le t o 4 " ., t 0 the P o i nts which a preferable line might approach, and The", general points. etee,,,,,,etanaination of Mr. Valentine was then confirmed, and Et tlio4, - ,`" their Lordships up to half-past four o'clock, when they RZes'lied till eleven to-morrow. 4° W, BARRHEA.D, AND NEILSTON Th e ' t RAILWAY. I %lre i-s'etent Committee appointed by the House of Lords to in. the merits of this scheme re assembled at the usual he li ne nt orning, and resumed the general evidence in favour of Mr Na g , — Joh n Williamson, an eminent mining engineer, had been elf th e Ua surv e yi ng the route of the direct line sod of the branch er 'lreehire Company and had found that the country tra t'eal I) / the direct line contained almost inexhaustible mines of 'i Nt 4F • lll ironstone but the route of the branch line was sadly deb. to ,this respect.' i h s l lr. -er nes Gai innkeeper at Barrhead, who ran an mu se . et', nes ' an 'Pie t een that place and Paisley, was called to prove that the 51° 0 I, °f the passengers going to Paishy from Barrhead did not atsley, but went on to Glasgow by the railway. tritietneeseveral witnesses had been examined to confirm the former that t h e w es called to pro v e the traffic tables. He estimated attu er dethigertioss inc ome of th e li ne wou ld b e 16,982/. 10s. 9d., and 4 net incomenr!fB.7M. for working expenses, there still remains Per ce nt. 8,190 4 10s. Pd., which would yield a dividend of Mr. tied Pun the capital of 142,500/. l e Robs ° j i - e, P th ni the engineer, who had laid out the proposed wet ad be a t there were no engineering difficulties on the line. TM 'egiii err, J oh si x, wanes and five furlongs in length. reci f urs Mill ar, a land.valuer, estimated the cost of th e l an d e etthe P r oposed line at 20,2051. 14s. 4d. Co tinnittee then adjourned. C; RMAT WESTERN (DUBLIN AND The GALWAY) RAILWAY. C urt ,,, ` -- " LnThi ttee met at eleven o'clock i n the ,ord Chancellor's Th e '4'l Bathurst in the chair. to t he eletl 04 n !lasta-N then said that the Committee had come to the 40'4. re porting the evidence which they had already heard kaUs e 3 , us e of Lord s, an d t h at they would take the orders of the he e bill t ° whether or no they should proceed on the merits of a,; 3 T hey would be qu it e ready to hear the other side rebut -ISl r. nh had been made out by the petitoners. t a th e 11(:l?o'r said he thought the better course would be to report In t evis eile ° eat on . ee. He would ad m it th a t th ere m i g h t h ave been t ny ra_ the Part o f t h e Company, though even that was not r on t pt,:cine cl ear, but h e d en i ed emphatically that there was any treeetatio ed a gainst them, except want of caution. There was no :Art", whatever upon th em. tot So,,_4°llle further discussion the Committee retired, but did itZ e 4 , ; n k e . e how soon they wou ' ld meet again, whether in an hour Ztar xv CCI RAT 41.111'D PRESTON BROOK RAILWAY. I. i , „ today at 1 lIIPORTANT DECISION. et 'halt i,"Mmittee to whom this line was referred t;:'t eleven o'clock and resumed the consideration ,au otfbtehue Duke e ri o ts f t 'eri s .41W5Y• Present, Lord Camoys, I. et' t _ ',Ole Earl of Kinnoul, the Earl of Uxbridge, hairm and the Marquis iiiitugonderry. ~ loWlvoEs counsel for the promoters, then addressed the . ~,, -4 , itte e thatre ti ,..on , the rebutting case brought forward by the opponen b t Part i t . 1 he principal ground ot objection w li as ue st t a u ted uta to ke it vart ''''' the intention of the promoters of the I et a r he u r g 4nd s cheme, by which a mompoly would beconf H er e re c el u o u n . te drei '11,141 'lLielion Railway of the traffic of the count Y. and p' " -at that was a gratuitous assumption, and wholly unfound ed, A the Pro a a t pl th ri e . real ground of opposition was the utu d o e t s e ir t e be o t p rade of and4l4 1,,,,, I of the port of Runcorn, and Pr ':',p,''se''.• After referring to the various points of the goods hehaicniter._ traffic which had been referred h. " , 0 i1i•,.... Of Petitioners he concluded a very ' lengthened i address ,74 ',, • °4 the Committee to confirm the decision w '" e it litea r. d . T co tne to by the House of Commons, and not to lend 4441‘ tr . "" to An opposition which, if successdfuplr,ow.eoumldusgtrietaituly_ do the to .e,ProliPerity of the port of Runcorn, an The iliee wirellare of the district. - Th e z ,_ el : as then cleared, and on our re admission etNide4 IRMAN announced that the Committee had carefully eon 4 Ttiusio the merit s of the proposed line, and had come to the he ,- th e th v preambl e o f the Bill was not proved. .00z ,otli rnitte e then b ro k e up, ~,,... AlvaEXB RAILWAY. -MONMOUTH lhe C IIREPCbRD RAlLWAYconsider theseCreseußt i llra e t t , t h e i e t a d P a Po y inted by the House of Lor , els to t Peers 4tr q ..I,°r4 Portman fe(crhth ai e rm fir a s n t ) t , im t e he in ll th u e ke ßo o li f s Norfolk, Cour the ,Ph 4 e l . ' „°f. Westrninster, the Earl of Roden, and Lord Leigh. ale Tall'fo9tna,Oters of both Bills were represented by 4rard_Etulkeley Philli• kettbr, wiik%ri,a. b P a h A il i l r i p s, m a . n r d re l‘ w l e r. tb ß e e r nt s o u n i Mr. Austin, :ported the case of Sir Phillips M.P. for Haverfordweq, o fth tiriil/4,"°1 o pened the case for the promoters. The pre a mble is, _ o r o ` l et oUt that it was proposed to make a line from F n kept') Pembroke Docks to Chepstow, in the county of Mo n_ lie (ittrhece to be continuedco by a branch railway to Monmouth. ther .., , Talbot) not inform their Lordships that a hi eth "nPortant line than this had not been considered 4, oh e eourse of the present session It was su 48,,erve that the railway passed through a large tract of ad at present unoccupied by any other, a country, too, which -, 4 to ~,„ pererogatory l'acter rticoend it thatmmercial intercourse of no common cha lie ~, He believed the best introduction of this case would ZiN; t eed to their Lordships some portions of the report of the , let, h , ef T rade on the subject. That report was made at consi th„ i'tet!errg.t, and it liras, perhaps, as well at the outset to stat , e . he tt ,_ o n I ad reference to a larger scheme than their Lordships ti,otisn7Obnsider, The scheme at that period referred to a sill con ,,,"iherittowt e Who le of South Wales with the town of Gloucester by th But it must be borne in mind that though one part •Je 5t connexion was severed at present, they would tioabled • lie,t, , m the nest session of Parliament, t oent, renew their ap eree kin. But to the report of the Board of Trade. They stated . , vi that th ,_ , YI 0i ..... e South Wales and Monmouth and Hereford Rail. "kY c "itogether a comprehensive Scheme for extending rail. fiiiii,:e42Municatione in connexion with the existing Great Western f , r1,1 4,4: t est of the Severn to Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, •uar c i ; !e whole course of South Wales to Pembroke and Fish. t e tri tt ;1 after giving the respective length of lines, and re. .' be ....,_.° the Map—after stating that they were proposed tlibisetil ,;"" 11 . Id Out in conjunction with the Great Wes ect h -t ,n s they spoke of the gradients. On thi, 1 * I t) se,pe: r!port said that the gradients of both lines are in parts :44i.t. btt(eeri bartiattiirieoutt impracticable, and there is reason.ttioiubuetlieutve. bciocubldu:doetr t have hm been obtained without 11/2011N:p:14 el Penso ir 'i l ould have ' , nth -- Y tnidesrble. The works for the greater portion of the he t,ea line are it ht • d the whole , the lines present ter'et eliaerdie'arY engingeerinegodifturulnties Then , after expressing Its,. Y th e i 4,.'ve the 72ZPortance of the lines to *t_he respective districts, . it arise, ' ',le towns of Moninouih, Newport, Cardiff, Neath, th e . La n 11 ' I th -,..7 Carmarthen Pembroke, and Milford Haven, he ° le of ' Unti the great mineral districts of South Wales, and the 2 , 11.,, ' ll Of -,rorok Hereford Monmouth, Glamorgan, Carmarthen, and b), tbis I:3t. Will ~ all Participate directly in the advantages afforded thri this P•oved communication ; and that the south of Ireland— qaste4 v?"43 an important point, and he particularly re. Irela t heir r - lb, 4(1 al s o, ..-.ordahips attention to it—that th• South of 00.01 *IC to the whole of which the South Wales n..atilbltd. the shortest which to London, -glilitt; 4"%tbo fIOWAt of communisation will alao pac4fipate IlVtbF 7" UlkiletC.3leing ;' and the advantage in a national point of view of a line which covers such a great extent of coast, and affords a ready communication with the dock.yard at Pem broke, and with the station at Milford Haven is also considerable. He (Mr. Talbot) was not much in the habit of passing any en eomium on the Board of Trade, but in this instance he thought they deserved it. Of the 832 landowners on the line there were but dS dissentients, and a similar difference was observed In respect of the mileage. He would now call their attention to the im. portance of the several affected towns in detail, and first he would refer their Lordships to the town of Chepstow. It was the market town of an important agricultural district country, connecting the vallies of the Usk and the Llandaff— and the utmost facilities of these districts were brought into play by the contemplated railway. The town of Newport also was the centre of a great coal and iron trade, and in the same way as John Frost and Co. precipitated themselves on Newport some years ago, so was the iron traffic precipitated on the same town now.---(Laughter.) Then it also supplied a market for the large and fertile districts of Glamorgan and Carmarthen. With regard to Cardiff, it was in precisely a similar position, and their Lordships were probably aware that a large stimulus would be given to the trade of that town by the enterprise of a patriotic individual of their Lordships' House. The Learned Counsel then re. ferred to the peculiar advantages which would be given to the towns of Neath, Bridgend, Swansea, and Llanelly, as well as the minor towns on the route. The mineral trade in the district was ,im. mense, not less than 9,000,0004 sterling per annum. There was but one opponent, Sir Richard Bulkeley Phillips; and after their Lordships had heard the ground on which he sought to confront them in that Committee, he thought that their Lord. ships would decide that the Hon. Baronet could have no lose: standi before them. After some further remarks the Learned Counsel concluded by expressing a hope that their Lordships would pass the preamble of the Bill. Mr. TALBOT then called Mr. Benson, who described himself as a magistrate for the county of Glamorgan. Had resided in South Wales for fifteen years. There are large copper mines at Combe Avis and Swansea. The coalowners export an immense quantity of coals, and 30,000 tons of manufactured copper, which would be sent by railroad, if one was constructed which would se cure an expeditious transit and save marine insurance. A great trade in tin was carried on at Combe Avis, and it exists all along the valley. There was a great quantity of coal in Glamorganshire, some of which, not yet wrought, would be opened if the proposed line went through the district. There could only be a line along the coast, as the nature of the country would exclude any other. Witness presided at a meeting last year at Swansea, and every one was in favour of it. In cross- exatnination by Mr. WILKINS, the witness said, that coals are at present brought by sea. The carriage would be much cheaper by railroad than by the present mode. The district be tween Carnarvon and Swansea is nearly level, Colonel Cameron, of Dun y'Greig, Swansea, way next called, and his evidence proved that the present water communication was very defective. The proposed line would be of incalculable advan tage to the district, and he hail advocated some scheme of a similar character for many years. The railway was supported by all the inhabitants of the principality. lie was the owner of a large coal field, and had recently opened another colliery, which at present had Ro ptoper outlet to market. He would, if the present railway were constructed, send all his coals to Swansea, so as to be Iran. shipped to London. His pits produced 120,000 tons annually. Mr. Buckland knew the manufactures and trades of South Wales. He had assisted in making up the traffic tables. The trade from Newport was very considerable, not less than between 30,000 and 40,000 tons of iron. The iron and coal annually ex ported amounted to 660,000 tons, and a very considerable trade was carried on with Ireland. The traffic with the district was of a very extended character; and at least two.thirds of the population on the route were in its favour. The Committee then proceeded to the consideration of the MONDXOUTH AND nrazzrolan (SOUTH WALES), Mr. TALBOT appeared for the promoters, and Mr. WORDSWGRTU for the Canal Company, which runs paralel with a part of the line. Mr. TALBOT briefly opened the case on the part of the pro. moters, and detailed at length the advantages which would accrue to the districts thsough which it would pass. Although it was opposed by some landowners, he apprehended that it would do them no serious injury. The further hearing of the case was then adjourned until to. morrow, on account of some of the witnesses, owing to the uncx petted termination of the former Bill not being in attendance. OXFORD, WORCESTER, AND WOLVICE, HAMPTON, AND OXFORD AND RUGBY RAILWAYS. IMPORTANT DECISION. The Committee met today at eleven o'clock, Lord Auckland in the chair, and immediately afterwards retired to consider the preamble of the Bill and the clauses. After waiting for about three hours and a half, during which time considerable anxiety was manifested by those present in. tereated in the two great Companies at issue, The Committee returned at half-past three o'clock, when the Chairman said that he had to intimate to the counsel on behalf of the two Bills, that the Committee had decided the preambles of both to be proved, and had directed him to report the Bills, with the amendments, to the House. The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow at three o'clock when they will meet to agree to their report. Turd GLAXGOW JUNCTION RAILWAY. The Committee met this morning at 11 o'clock. The firs; witness called was Mr. Ciibitt, the eminent engineer, who was examined at great length with respect to that portion of the line which is proposed to be laid down on a level on the quays at Glasgow. He was of opinion that the adoption of this plan would materially interrupt the business of that part of the city; and that the navigation, but more particularly the landing of coals, would be seriously impeded. He even doubted the practicability of the scheme crossing the quays this way at all. On his cross examination by Mr. ANDREWS, on behalf of the promoters, he stated that much of the inconvenience which could not fail to arise from constructing the line along the quays might be obviated by carrying the rails completely above the quays ; but what he strongly recommended was that they should construct a quay and docks for their sole use. The quay should be from twelve to fifteen feet above the water. By effecting this, they would increase their traffic, and by charging a small additional tonnage on the goods which they would convey, they would be fully remunerated for this additional outlay. Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM then proceeded to address the Com mittee on behalf of Mr. Campbell, the proprietor of the Blythes wood's estate and on behalf of the " feuars." To show the in creasing value of this estate, he stated that upwards of thirty years ago it let at 601. an acre, but that during the last few years por tions of it had been let at 7501., and that a sixth part of it, equally as valuable, had not yet been " feued," which would no doubt realise a rental of about 10,000/. per annum. By the line passing through the ground the property would be greatly reduced ; and, tesides, there was a general feeling amongst the " feuars " against it. He therefore hoped that they would not press the preamble of the Bill. The CHAIRMAN then desired the room to be cleared, that the Committee might deliberate whether they should hear any further evidence. On the admission of the parties, The CHAIRMAN intimated that they were prepared to bear addi tional evidence on the line before thsm, and not with respect to any other. The following witnesses were then called : Mr. Douglas said he had been land.agent for the Blytheswood es tate for the last twenty-fiveyears. The " unfeued" portion was the most valuable part of the estate, and he had no hesitation in saying that at least nine tenths of the most valuable buildings of Glasgow were built on the Blytheswood estate. The carrying of the pro_ posed tunnels through the estate would be highly detrimental to it, and nithing could warrant the carrying of a tunnel through a portion of such a thickly populated city as Glasgow but the most urgent necessity. He understood that the Company would not pay Mr. Campbell for the land which they proposed to take for the tunnel. Mr. ANDREWS said they would pay for what land they took. They would reimburse the owner for any damage or injury which they might cause from the construction of the tunnel. They would secure compensation to Mr. Campbell by a clause in their Bill. Mr. Thomas Kyle, surveyor, of Glasgow, said he had been well acquainted with Blytheswood estate in his professional capacity for many years. The line would pass through a quarry and other valuable property, to their great Injury. He had no doubt that the houses at Wellington Arcade would be rendered dangerous by constructing the line in that direction, the soil being clayey and the houses apt to sink. At the spot where they proposed com mencing the construction he found soft clay. By drawing off the water they would endanger the safety of large manufactories erected over its prepared route. A •ery good line might be made without interfering with the thickly-populated parts of the city. On cross examination by Mr. ANDREWS, he admitted that a quiet possession of the tunnel in the Blytheswood estate would pass through a strata of firm blue clay. Mr. Locke, civil engineer, knew the town of Glasgow well, and had had his attention particularly directed to this line, and it ap peared to him that the line had not been judiciously selected—. that a better one might be constructed. There was an objection able curve in the tunnel. Cross-examineel—The difference between a curve in a tunnel and one in the other part of a line was this—that if an accident happened it would occur in the dark, and a train coming in a contrary direction might come in collision with the other, and serious accidents might be the result. The Committee then adjourned until to-morrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS. GROUP X. LONDON AND YORK LINES. The Committee on these railways resumed this morning at th• customary hour. After the late excitement kept up with uninterrupted intensity for so protracted a period, the temporary lull of this morning afforded a striking contrast to the previous tempest of conflicting elements, and it was really refreshing to see the altered air of both members, counsel, and shareholders. The self.complacency of the former, as if revelling in the delicious contemplation of the progress hitherto effected, and the important result yesterday attained, and the comparative composure of the two ►atter more interested parties, were conspicuous evidences of yesterday's decision. After a brief interchange of mutual gratulations, The CHAIRMAN, addressing the counsel present, said that as no decision was come to in the House of Commons last evening, the Committee thought it better to defer going into consideration of the clauses of the London and York Bill till a future period, and In the meanwhile to proceed with the case of the Cambridge and Huntingdon line. Mr. PAGET urged that the clauses common to both the accepted and rejected Bills, when divided, and all that were unopposed, might be discussed immediately. Mr. AWHTIN, Q.C., contended that the Committee could not proceed with clauses of a Bill which had no existence; and seconded the proposition of the Committee to posipone the London and York case till a subsequent occasion. The CIiAIRMAN, aff consulting with the Co mm itt ee, sa id , t h at while differing from r. Austin's opinion that the London and York Biil had no existence, and therefore that it could not be discussed, they had decided on proceeding with the case of the Cambridge and Huntingdon scheme, and as it was unopposed, and would not occupy much time, immediately after its termina tion the clauses of the London and York Bill would be taken into consideration. IMPORTANT DECISION. CAMBRIDGE AND HUNTINGDON LINE. Mr. AosTIY, Q.C., then proceeded to open the case of this line, stating that the promoters sought authority to construct a line of railway from a point on the Eastern Counties line near Cambridge to the town of Huntingdon. The project was one of considerable utility to the district, traversing the important market town of St. Ives, would be about 18 miles long, and cost 150,000/. No engineering difficulties existed, and as it was unopposed, lie felt assured the Committee would pass the preamble of the Bill. Mr. Borthwick, examined by Mr. AUSTIN, Q.C.—ls an engineer, and, in conjunction with Mr. Robert Stephenson, has been engaged to lay out the Cambridge and Huntingdon Railway. The line would be 17 miles long, presenting no engineering difficulties, there being no tunnelling whatever, and its course being a practical level. Throughout its entire length the worst gradient is 1 in 270, and the curves are unusually favourable. By the plans, as deposited, it was proposed to cross two highways on a level, but they now intended to cross it by a bridge of the ordinary Parliamentary height. The cost of the undertaking will be 150,0001., including 81,700/. for the land required. Mr. Duncan, solicitor to the company, under examination by Mr. JAMES, deposed to the income anticipated on the line being 1,8441., and handed hi a list of the assents and dissents, the share holders of 2,0001. and upwards, and other formal evidence. The preamble of the Bill was then announced to be proved, and the various elausee were, without opposition, agreed to, the Bill being ordered it be reported to the Huse, with amendments, to- MOM% THE SUN, lAINDON, THURSDA X EVININO, JCI Y 24, 1855. Mr. Sergeant WRANGIIAM denied that it was an unopposed On our admission to the gallery we found Bill, as it was undeniably a competing line with the London and Mr. HU3IE moving to strike out the clause that con- York. tinued the penny duty. His objection to the tax was, that it was Mr. AUSTIN protested against the injustice of such a propesi- pact by the poor, who were not so much interested in the pro tion. It was monstrous, after they had been refused, to oppose perty it was intended to improve as the proprietors, and that, the London and York line, because they did not compete therefore, they ought to pay the tax. to be told by that very Company that first suggested their non- Mr. FORSTER seconded the motion. compeiition, that they had no right to be considered unopposed, The Earl of LINCOLN objected to the motion. This was: because, lorsooth, they were competing li nes . why, if th e argu_ not the imposition of a new tax, but:the continuance of an old. ment was good in the first instance, that the London and York one that was of little or no importance to the consumer. was not a competing line with the Milford and Doncaster, Mr. STUART WORTLEY objected to the continuance and therefore the latter could net oppose ; the converse was surely of the tax; he thought it highly improper to continue it on the: tenable, that the Milford and Dmcaster did not compete with the face of the report of the Committee. London and York, and therefore could not be opposed by the latter. The h f t e e rHsoounasee divided, o bservation s,,he nf r t o h mer e L a o p r p de a ßr e .d _Grosvenor, Mr. 8.. The Committee h av i ng ret i re d to d e lib erate , a ft er h a lf an h our ' s E sco; t, Si r G . Clerk, Mr. Tuf ne ll, an d M r . W a kl ey , absence, The CHAIRMAN having returned with his colleagues, said that For the motion ... the Committee were of opinion that the Milford and Doncaster i Against it line did not com p e t e w i t h t h e L on d on an d Y or k, i n I Majority against the motion —l7 respect of a through conimunication, but that it, as I The motion was consequently lost. well as the Swinton line, did compete with the Wakefield branch I Mr. WAKLEY congratulated the Noble Lord (Lincoln.") of the London and York. Th e y, moreover , a dhered to the original that he had not made the tax 6d., and the period of its resolution of proceedi ng i mme di ate ly w ith th e clauses of the duration fifty, instead of seventeen, years, because he was core-- latter Bil, vinced that in both cases the House would have adopted it. Mr. AUSTIN wished, before the consideration of the clauses was I Mr. HUME thought that measures like the present ought proceeded with, to understand aright the decision of last evening. not to be brought forward at the morning sittings. It ap- Either the Bill still remained undecided on, and its preamble as a peered to him that the course that had been adopted was a most whole unproved, or the Bill was in its amended form—viz., by th e shameful uay of conducting the business of the House. He erasure of the worth empowering the construction of the Wakefield was determined to divide the House on the question that the and Sheffield branches, declared as proved. I Bill do pass. TheCH•lareaer (who appeared astounded at themanifestdilemma) I strangers were then ordered to withdraw, but no division read the minu'e of their decision yesterday, by which it appeared took place, and the Bill passed. that the Bill was declared proved, omitting the branches in dispute SMALL DEBTS BILL. which had consequently been erased. The Small Debts (No. 3) Bill was reported, several clauses :Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM contended that though the branches were added, the Bid was ordered to be engrossed, and read. a were omitted in the favourable resolution of the Committee, it did I third time on Monday. not preclude their being subsequently considered. CHURCH BUILDING ACT AMENDMENT BILL. Mr. AUSTIN, Q C., urged that the matter was quite clear; if the The House then went into Committee on the Church Bill be declared proved, and the branches had been struck out, Building Act Amendm en t Bill . they had no longer an exist ence . Mr. Building objected to the Bill. It contained no pro.- The Commerree declined given any i n t er p re t a ti on o f th e i r d e . visionore o w bi h e a e t t e n v m er ab f l o e r tinhe a p u r e o t t h e e c v tio p n ei o n f t the ef l v a i i e ty w . , I fo t v w i a t s g s a t v il e i , l chili., as Parli a me n t mus t p u t t h eir own explanation upon it. more The discussion of the clauses being then proceeded with, power to the Commissioners to appoint the church-• Mr. AUSRIN, on the 2d being put, said—My Lord, before the wardens, which was in effect giving them the power of making: Committee go further into this case I wish to make a remark i church-rates, for, according to the opinion of Lord Chief Justice which, though of vast importance, will occupy but a few moments Tindal, churchwardens had the power to make rates when. of iyour time. Whil e I enterta i ne d t h e hi g h est respect f or the inhabitants refused to do so. Under these circumstances, the intelligence and impartiality of this Committee, a nd d o no t i n - he thought the Bill ought not to proceed ; there were. tend to impugn the justice of their decision—for G o d fo r bid, th a t already no less than forty-eight Ecclesiastical Bills on the statute: I should ever utter one word disparagingly of any tribunal book, and 400 orders in Council. The House ought not, there-- in the land—l must, on th e p ar t o f th e Y or k an d fore, to add another Bill, but try to consolidate the present- I North Midland' the Midland, and the Eastern Counties C, rnpanies, Bills. protest against this Bill being further proceeded with. And my Mr. S. HERBERT said that the arguments of the Hon._ Lord, I have my protest upon these grounds :—first— Member for Lambeth against this Bill were the strangest he- Just at this critical juncture of th e Lear ne d C ounse l' s a dd ress , had ever heard ; because there was a large number of Acts of when excitement was at its highest, and the greatest astonishment, Parliament in existence, and the law was in an anomalous, not to say dismay, was depicted on the countenances of the London state, therefore they were not to proceed to amend. and York adherents, the state of the law by any act of legislation. With. Mr. DARBT, who had shewn great signs of restlessness during these regard to church-rates, nothing had been introduced in the' few remarks, whispered the Chairman, who whispered Mr. &rope, Bill which would at all affect that question. who passed the word to his neighbour, Mr. Hall, and the conclave The clauses were agreed to with some amendments, and the romained in anxious deliberation sonic fifteen or twenty minutes. report was ordered to be received to-morrow. Mr. Creed, the clerk, was then summoned to their councils, and the The Lords' amendments to the Westminster Improvement: whole body impetuously withdrew to the adjoining room. (No. 2) Bill were agreed to. After the absence of somewhat more than half an.hour they Tho Lords' amendments to the Bermondsey Improvement. returned, and the CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee Bill were agreed to. refused to hear any further observation s from Mr. Austin, which in CALEDONIAN RAILWAY. the present stage of the proceedings were wholly irregular. The Lords' amendments to this Bill were agreed to. Mr. AUSTIN attempted to remonstrate, but it was useless; the SCOTTISH CENTRAL RAILWAY. Committee were obdurate, and the counsel compeled to submit. The Lords' amendments to this Bill were agreed to. At length the clauses of the DUNDEE AND PERTH RAILWAY. LONDON' 11.14 - D ronx BILL The Lords' amendments to this Bill were agreed to. were entered on. And after all th ose w hi c h were unopposed were ABERDEEN RAILWAY Lords' amendments to this Bill were agreed to, The agreed to.: Mr. WILDE, on behalf of the tru s t ees o f S t . B GRIMSBY DOCKS. artholomew's This Bill was read a third time and passed. Hospital, opposed the 16th clause, which empowered the Company LIVERPOOL AND BURY (BOLTON AND WIGAN to make the railway according in the deposited plans. The plans AND LIVERPOOL) RAILWAY. specified 60 acres as requisile fur the purposes of the line at a point wh i ch i n t er f ere d w ith th e p ro p er ty o f t h e h ospital, and The Lord s ' am en d men t s to this Bill were agree d to. the Learned Couns e l di s p u ted th e n ecess ity o f suc h an amount. The South-Ea s t ern R a ilw a y (bran c h t o D ea l an d extensionof the South-Eastern, Canterbury, Ramsgate, and Margate Mr. Cubitt deposed to the absolute necessity of that quantity of Railway) was read a third time and passed. land being taken. On the motion that the Bolton and Leigh, Kenyon and Mr. Hardwick, the architect of the London and Birmingham, Leigh: Junction, North Union, Liverpool and Manchester and. and Great Western lines, deposed to those Companies not requiring Grand Junction Railway Companies Amalgamation, be read a more than twenty or thirty acres for their stations. third time, Mr. PAGET cffered to effect a compromise, and give the trustees Mr. WILSON PATTEN moved the amendments of which the right of pre-emption of any land which the Company might he had give n no ti ce . not requir e . Mr. ESTCOTT doubted the propriety of suspending the The Committee reserved their decision till to-morrow, and ad- standing orders. journed at a quarter past five o'clock, Mr. PATTEN said that his only object was to prevent the Bill from being thrown out for the session. The amendments were not of a very important character. After a few words from Mr. BROTHERTON, Mr. DUNCOMBE said he objected to the motion being withdrawn, and he hoped the Committee on Standing Orders would not sanction such a proceeding. It would be better to throw the Bill overboard altogether. Dr. IIOWRING would have no objection to the motion provided it would not have the effect of causing the Bill any risk ; but it would be a very serious step to take if it would have the effect of throwing out the Bill altogether. After a few words from Mr. STEWART WORTLEY and Lord G. SOMERSET, the motion was withdrawn, and the third read ing of the Bill ordered to be resumed to-morrow. COMMITTEE—GROUP X. Mr. B. DENISON said he begged to move that it be an in struction to the Committee upon Group X of Railway Bills, that they have power to divide the London and York Railway Bill into two or more Bills, if they think fit. Mr. ASTELL said he would second the motion. Mr. WARD asked a question of the Chairman of the Com mittee in reference to the Sheffield and Wakefield being left out in the decision on the preamble of the Bill. Viscount COURTNEY said it was desirable that he should state the particular circumstances under which the preamble of the Bill had been passed by the Committee. In the exercise of their discretion they had left out Sheffield and Wakefield, as there were other parties who had competing lines to that portion of the London and York:that accommodated these parties. They (the Committee) did so, on the grounds that having heard the evidence on the one side, it would not be fair to decide until evidence was also heard on behalf of those who had competing lines to propose. They considered it was but fair that they should give these parties the chance of being heard, and, accordingly, they thought the best course to pursue was to postpone that portion of the Bill which related to those towns, and come to a decision on the main point. They therefore decided that the preamble of the Bill was proved, omitting Sheffield and Wake field. They how ever gave noopinion on the merits of the branches. They purposely avoided doing so. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Ward) seems to object to mar deciding only on a part. In doing so the Committee thought it was the best course to pursue under the circumstances. If that was not satisfactory the only way would be for the House to refer the portion of the Bill omitted to the Committee so that they might decide on that as well as the other parts of the case. If the House could suggest any course to take in the matter, the Committee would be satisfied to follow it out. After a few words from Mr. DARBY, in explanation, Mr. P. M. STEWART said ihat it was sufficiently evident that the Committee ought to have applied for leave to divide the Bill, and after thus disposing of the branches they might have gone on with the trunk line. The House could knew nothing of what the Committee had done, but from their own confessions now, and therefore the House was not competent to decide on what the Committee had yet done. The SPEAKER was supposed to say that they were irre gular, in that they had no power to strike any portion out of the preamble of the Bill ; but, as the Honse was in so many cases out of order, he supposed that this must also be passed over.—(Laughter.) The motion was agreed to. (LEFT SITTING,) MPERIAL PARLIAMENT (THIS EVENING) HOUSE OF LORDS. Thair Lordships met shortly after Five o'clock. DIRECT LONDON AND PORTSMOUTH RAILWAY. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from the promoters of competing railways to the Direct Landon and Portsmouth line, and praying to be heard by counsel be fore the Select Committee as a competing line aiainst the Direct London and Portsmouth Railway Bill. The Noble Duke moved that the petition be referred to the Select Com mittee on the Bill, which was agreed to after a short discussion. DUBLIN AND GALWAY RAILWAY.—REPORT OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE.—PRIVILEGE. Lord BATHURST said he had been directed, as the Chair man of the Committee appointed to inquire into the charges brought against the Dublin and Galway Railway Company, to call the attention of the House to their report. The Committee had met and considered the petitions which had been referred to them, and had heard counsel, and had examined witnesses in support of the allegations in the said petitions, and had arrived at the opinion, that most systematic frauds had been used fur the purpose of obtaining the necessary number of signatures to the subscription contract. No pro per attention had been paid to the letters of al lotment. Names had been inserted without the consent of the parties, and letters had been sent to country postmasters, with a request that they might be returned to London through the Yost• office. It also appeared that 260/. were to be paid to a person on his not bringing certain charges against the Com pany, and 500/. more on the Bill passing the Standing Orders' Committee. The subscription contract did not amount to three-fourths of the estimates. The result of the delibe rations of them had induced the Committee to express entire concurrence in the report of the Committee, and that the reduction in the amount of deposits last session, by the House of Commons, had given a facility to frauds like those mentioned in their report. Uunder all these circumstances, they had come to the decision not to inquire further into the Bill without further directions from the House. The Earl of BESBOROUGH said the report was a peculiar one, and he thought it better to give a notice respecting it. He should therefore move to-morrow that the Bill be no further proceeded with. Lord BROUGHAM said he had now to state that having brought forward a statement with regard to the privileges of the House, that he had seen a statement giving an explanation with respect to the report of the newspaper in question, and that their Lordships ought not now to call the reporter before] the House, or proceed against the Editor of that newspaper. The Noble Earl opposite would forgive him if he said that he never intimated that he wished to do so. They had had too much experience en matters of that sort, and he thought it better to leave him (Lord Brougham) as the ag grieved party to proceed at law by means of a criminal information, if he wished to adopt that course. No doubt he could prosecute ; it was no excuse whatever that the matter occurred in the House of Commons, but he had to state that it appeared the statement was made and was published in another newspaper, against which he might proceed, if he pro ceeded at all—namely, the Morning Chronicle, as it had published the same speech in the same words. (LEFT SPEAKING.) IMPROVEMENT OF HALIFAX HARBOUR. (From Williner and Smith's European Times.) We intimated our intention, in our last publication, of throwing out a few suggestion s for the improvement of Halifax harbour. In fulfilling this promise, we do so ith a becoming sense of our inability to treat the subject in a manner becoming its importance, as our acquaintance with the locale is necessarily imperfect, and was picked up during our passage to and from the port in question in the spring and autumn of last year. B u t, however unworthil y we execute the task, we only c l a im for our crude conception s the attention to which, upon investigation, they may be found entitled. If they are worthy the consideration of the practical and expe rienced our object is answered, and being so, their p' tt paved. pl place e I w n i t adoption cannot be too s p ee di ly enforced ; if other wise, nothing less h um ili ating ,can overtake them, than s labour, h said, good eedy intentions" transit arethat such as it is, will not h ave been fruitless, for we it w he h r ic case h it the shall have eased our mind of a d uty which we owe to our friends in Nova Scotia, in wh ose welfare we shall ever take a lively interest —to th e sp l endid steamers, and to the lives and property whi c h t h ey are constantly carry ing to and from their destination. The present age excellence, the a ge o f me chanical triumphs of art over ob stacles times have defi e d h uman in genuity,p'. des which i s progression,showe lf u p oin upon thatbeing, thee nother ag n, par Creator has not limited man's faculties in working out his own redemption. The chief, merit, however, of the suggestions which follow is, that they are readily executed ; they involve, in pro portion to the magnitude of the interests at stake, but a trifling pecuniary outlay, and cannot possibly deter by their vastness or complexity. The present position of the port of Liverpool—with one exception the greatest maritime port in the wor l d — demonstrates sufficiently how science and capital can triumph over great, and all but insuperable difficulties, and vessel s of the largest tonnage can now at any hour enter a harbour where, formerly, such an advantage was unknown—unlooked for—undreamt of. HOUSE OE COMMONS. The House met at Twelve o'clock. COAL DI/TY BILL. On the motion of the Earl of LINCOLN, this Bill was itti a third time. On the motion that the Bill should pass, Sir JAMES DUKE moved," That it be enacted, that from and after the 31st day of December next, there shall be allowed upon the exportation from the port of London, westward of the City boundary on the river Thames at Stained, of coals ex ceeding in quantity in one barge, lighter, or other vessel, twenty tons, which shall not have been landed, a drawback of the ful! amount of all the rates or duties which shall have been paid n respect of such coals, subject, however, to such rules and regu lations as may from time to time be made by the mayor, al& r men, and commons of the City of London, in Common Council assembled, to prevent fraud in respect of such drawback, such rules and regulations to be approved of by the Committee of her Majesty's Privy Council for managing the affairs of trade ; and if the master of any vessel, or any coal-weigher, shall in any certificate or otherwise state any circumstance which is net true, for the purpose of enabling the owner of such coal , , or his agent, to obtain any such drawback as aforesaid, or if any lighterman or other person employed to carry such coals to their destination westward of the City boundary on the river Thames at Staines, shall not deliver the whole quantity of such coals at some place to the westward of the said boundary, every such master or coal-weigher, lighterman, or other person, so offend ing, shall for every such offence forfeit and pay any sum not exceeding one hundred pounds." Mr. HUME thought that there should be a modification of the duty. . . Sir 6. CLERK said that he could not consent to the in troduction of this clause. He was perfectly ready to admit the fact that the South Sea trade had diminished, yet he was at the same time confident that the amount of shipping and the number of seamen had increased. Since the introduction of steam navigation, the coasting trade had certainly declined, but yet the business and the prosperity had increased, and there was a larger quantity of sea-borne coal introduced into the port of London than had ever before been carried. The largest portion of this tax, viz., eightpence in the shilling, was mort gaged by the Woods and Forests to pay for the iml rove ments in the City and port; and be thought, therefore, that it was incompetent for the House to interfere with this tax. Mr. FOR ST ER said that on the 4th of this month there were 266 tons of coals in the port, which cost 7s. 6d. a ton ; the freight on this cargo was 7s. 9d. ; and there were other ex penses, to the amonnt of 2s. ; and this, with the port-dues, brought the cost of coals to 1/. 3s. 6d. a ton to the buyer ; and on the consumer the charge was, of course, proportionably heavy. The first approach to the shores of N ova Scotia is marked by the inconvenience and the dangers o f t h e n, so h onourable to fogs so prevalent at seasons of the year,in othe r respects the most favourable. The system of bell buoys intro duced at the entrance into the Mersey, at Li verpool, would obviate much of the difficulty and d anger arising from the state of the atmosphere on the shores of Nova Scotia. the The of the world, proves that they require. but a hi n t to for ward any design in the cause of humanitesta of f li N bsh o m va establishment on Scotia, S , ab andle s I so slan beneficial t o th e trade y ; and we take the liberty of suggesting that bell buoys should be laid doe n in such places as may be found, after careful atten tion to the subject, to be the most suitable. The loss of the noble steamer the Colu m bi a would, in all probability, not have occurred, if a bell buoy had been near the place where she struck ; and wh en we consider the extraordinary difficulties which the uncertainty of the tides at the entrance of the bay of Sundy presents, we should say that the extreme point of th e western ' coast would be a suitable place for one. As the eastern coast is much lower than the western. and less bold, and very dangerous ledges of rock run ' out on different parts of that coast, it would seem to be absolutely necessary to have bell buoys there, and a selection of the points would he easily made. For in stance, a bell buoy on the Rock Head would be a great advantage, There is at present, we believe, a buoy, but it is dumb, and the bell would be f ound of incal culable utility in giving warning to the m ar i ner of his position. Another bell buoy on the I olluck Rip, moore d in thirty-five fathoms, is desirable. In addi t i on to these there ought to be another bell buoy in forty-five fathoms gravel, which are good soundings, off the li g h thouse N.W. by W., distance about five miles f rom the light house. The dumb buoy at Thrumpcap shoals ought to be converted into a bell buoy. A light on Jedore -Head one of the most dangerous parts of the coast, and another ' on the White Islands, about twenty-seven miles from the harbour, would complete the necessary safety g uides • at present 150 miles of the eastern coast is without solitary light. The detention of the mail for a few hours (and hours may be said to be days with the steamers when com pared with sailing vessels), i n which all America, vre M. STUART WORTLEY said that his Noble Friend was proposing to continue this tax for seventeen years longer, it having been previously continued for only seven years, and was thus placing the coal trade in a worse position than any other trade in London. There could be no doubt if facility were given to parties to bring commodities into the City of London, a great portion of those commodities would be brought in.—( Hear.) The Earl of LINCOLN opposed the clause upon the prin ciple of justice to the creditor IN ho had lent money.—(Hear. ) He could not understand how it could be just, having borrowed money f a certain purpose, and under certain conditions, to attempt to reduce the security. He thought it would be much better for the Honourable Member to withdraw the clause now, and in another session to introduce a Bill em bodying the clause. 111r. - MASTERMAN could not agree to the clause, as he believed the tax of Bd. a ton on coals was mortgaged to the full extent, and, therefore, that the House had no right in honour or justice to interfere. Mr. WAKLEY hoped this would he a lesson to the House how it taxed the necessaries of life. This tax had been fas tened on the public, and when they would get rid of it, Heaven only knew. There was no common-sense or justice in charging one price on coals coming one way, and another price on coals going another.—( Hear, heat.) If there were any common sense Members present, he knew well which way they would vote.—( Hear, hear. ) Mr. R. PALMER supported the clause. After a few words from Mr. WA WA, Mr. MUNTZ protested against the inequality of the principle of taxing the inland consumption, white they were easing the continental consumer in every way. Mr. SPOONER opposed the clause. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared— for the clause ... 24 Against it Majority against the clause ... —l3 The clause was oensequently lost. may say the whole world is interested, is a subject of so much importance, that should it be deemed necessary we doubt not that all nations would readily contribire to carry out so useful a design, even upon the most ex tensive scale, But besides this, there have been times, and those times may come again, when hundreds of men-of-war have been employed on the North American station ; and we respectfully solicit the attention of the Admi ralty to a subject in which the highest interests of the empire are involved. The coasting trade of Nova Scotia, as well as the fisheries, the great business of large portions of the people of that province, are deeply interested in what ever would facilitate the approach to the harbours all along the coast ; and the general trade with all parts of the world which is carried on from Halifax would like wise feel the benefit of these well-intended suggestions, should they be carried out, as we hope will be the case, with the spirit and judgment that the undertaking de mands. The just pride; of science, which has produced almost a magical precision in the passage of our celebrated steamers, is indeed humbled, when, at the moment the voyage may be said to be completed, a barrier is sud denly presented to her entrance. How cheering at such a moment would be the welcome sound of the mariners' bell, giving confidence to the commander, and happin ess to the pasengeis ; and the splendid steamer, bursting boldly through the fog, would afford another proof of the power of art to overcome the obstacles to human enterprise, and give delight and satisfaction to thousands whose deepest interests are concern( d. CHAINING FEMALES AGAIN AT KINGS WIN FORD. There are men on whom wholesome advice is entirely thrown away, on whom even threats produce no effect, who set law, justice, and humanity at defiance. The brutal treatment of Eliza Price called forth from Sir J. Graham a declaration that chaining a female was illegal, and that the party guilty of such an outrage should or ought to be indicted. Pubic opinion con demns the practice, and yet, after the formal inquiry insti tuted by the Home Secretary into the allegations contained in the petition of Eliza Price, and ere the public indignation consequent on that inquiry is allayed, we have to record another case nearly, if not quite as disgraceful, in the same locality, and by some of the same parties. It having become known that two girls were in the custody of Onions, the con stable, at his own house, an inquiry was instituted, and the following statement was taken on the 15th inst , in the pre sence of a magistrate, who also directed Capt. Roberts, In spector of Police, to make inquiries and report to Mr. Hatton, the chief constable of the Staffordshire police. Margaret Perry states as follows :--My sister, Susannah Hill, aged 14, was taken into custody by Onions, the con stable, on Wednesday, the 9th of July. I heard of it, and be tween eleven and twelve o'clock went to Onions' house and found my sister in the back kitchen ; Onions was at Higg's public-house; I went to him and asked him to let my sister have a bed ; he said he had not a bed, and if he had, he dare not put her in it. I asked him if he would take bail for my sister's appearance, he said he 'would not; I then left; I went to Onions' house the following morning between eight and nine o'clock, and found my sister in the hack kitchen with a handcuff on her wrist, .and a chain fastened to it, the chain being fastened to the grate. She was sitting on a stool, and had not been in bed .all night, but chained in the kitchen. I left her. I went -again on the Friday morning between seven and eight o'clock. .iNly sister was then in the back kitchen, chained to the :grate. Emma Woodhall was handcuffed to her, and both chained to the grate. I left them there. My sister told me she had not been washed, and asked me to take her some soap 1 and a cloth to wipe herself with. After the first night they fl were allowed to lie on the ground upon some bags, against the grate, with the handcuffs on and chained. Mary Rowley states—Emma Woodhall is my sister. She is eleven years of age, she was taken into custody by Onions on 'Thursday morning. I went to Onions' house between eleven ;and twelve on Thursday morning and found my sister with Hill in the brewhouse. Onions said he was going to take them to the Cross Inn, Townsend. I went with them (more :than two miles). I saw Mr. Lea, the magistrates' clerk. There •were no magistrates at the Cross Inn, and Onions brought :them back to his own house. Between nine and ten the same s(Thursday) night I went to Onions' house, and saw both the ;girls in the brewhouse. hook my sister some supper. I went the :next (Friday) morning between 8 and 9 o'clock. No one was up ;at Onions' house. I waited till 9 o'clock before I was let in. The !two children were sitting upon a low bench against the grate, ;they were handcuffed together and chained to the grate, they said they hail sat there all night. There was the remains of some fire in the grate. There was no appearance of bed or bed 'clothing. I did not see Onions; I understood he was in bed. I remained until ten o'clock. I went with my brother to Wol •verhampton, more than seven miles, on Friday; Onions told me he was going to take them there that clay. When Onions got to the public office at Wolverhampton the magistrates had left. He then left Wolverhampton and brought them •to the Cross Inn, Townsend (seven miles). Onions left them at the Cross Inn whilst he went up to Mr. Briscoe's, at Sum :merhill ; he was away about half an hour. He then took the .children back to his own house and told me they were going to the Crosss inn the next morning. On the following morning -(Saturday) I went to Onions' house and saw the children, they informed me they had been chained and handcuffed during all -the previous night. I went to the Cross inn, with Onions and -the children, we stopped there more than an hour, and then - went to Mr. Briscoe's house, at Summerhill. We saw :Mr. Briscoe ; he was lying on a sofa with pillows on it. Mr. Briscoe asked the girls if they had ever been at Stafford ; he said they must go now. Mr. Fothergill, the prosecutor, was there. • 'There was another person at the same time at Mr. Briscoe's :house. He was committed to Stafford by Mr. Briscoe. A police man took the man away to the station-house ; Onions took the •two girls to his house, and on the way passed near to the station-house, where they could have been left in custody of the police. Onions told me that Mr. Briscoe ordered him - to keep the girls in his custody till the Monday following. I saw the two girls in the brewhouse on Saturday evening. I went again on Sunday morning ; they were th en i n th e brew :house, and sa id th ey h a d been chained, as usual, in the kitchen Al night. I saw them again on Sunday evening ; they were in the brew house. I saw them on Monday morning ; they - were in the brewhouse. They said they had been chained all the previous night, as usual. On Monday night the girls were removed to the station-house. I saw Onions taking them. He told me he was obliged to take them, as somebody had - been telling the Stourbridge magistrates of their being at his ;house. He took them to the station-house at Brierly-hill, and delivered them to policeman Simmonds. Simmonds told me I Iliad better go to Stourbridge, and he would go with me. I re monstrated with Onions about his chaining the children. He said he would not chain them any more so heavy. This was on Friday. My sister complained, saying the handcuffs and chains liurt her wrists, and asked me to name it to Onions. This is the statement of the sisters of the unfortunate chil dren ; and we arc further informed that on the warrant of com mitment there is an endorsement, authorising Onions to detain them in his custody till Monday; and also that on Wells, the policeman who had charge of the man committed- by Mr. Briscoe, asking Onions on Saturday whether the children were committed, he said no, not at present. Our readers will naturally inquire, with what dreadful crime were these girls charged? S ure l y it must b e one o f f ear f u l magnitude !—murder, arson, or some such heavy offence. But no, gentle reader, it's not quite so bad ; " the head and front of their offence bath this extent—no more," that they had each stolen coals of the value of one halfpenny ; and this in a dis trict where picking small coals from the pit bank is scarcely looked upon as an offence, and of which, till of late years scarcely any notice was taken.— Worcestershire Chronicle, LLOYD'N SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY.) LONDON, JULY 24.—Wind N. by E., light breeze and hazy. DEAL, .TELY N.E., moderate.—Arrd. from the river and sailed Agostina, Volum, Sydney, New South Wales; Gloriana. Webb, Calcutta ; Mary Alice, Masterton, ditto ; Reliance, Robertson, Ascension and Singapore ; Atalante, Murray, Africa ; Sandwich, Mann, St. Lucia. PLymot-Tit„TELY 23.—Wind E.—Arrd. off 22, Speculator, Pear son, Miramichi. FALMOUTH, JULY 25.—Wind E., fresh breezes.—Arrd. off, Triton, Poulson, St. Croix ; and Jonas, Havannah, both for Copenhagen ; Sa lamandre, Daviller, Aux Cayes for Ilavre ; Pandora, Antigua. 19. Urania, Broden, St. Croix, for Copenhagen. 21. Mary, Porto Rico for Bremen ; Wave, Quebec for Yarmouth ; Katherina Stewart Forbes, ditto ; Caxton. ditto. 22. Lady Falkland, St. Jago de Cuba. LIVERPOOL, JULY 23.—Wind E., moderate.—Arrd. Amity, Allen, Montreal; Asenuth, Vickers, ditto. Sld. Glenroy, Blacklock, Africa; Lady Worsley, ditto ; Llama, Partridge, ditto; Nautilus, Ward, ditto; Agnes Sophia, Bourne, Barbadoes ; Meteor, Stephens, Bath ; Ben Nevis, Heron, Quebec ; Albatross, Mills, ditto ; Rory O'More, M`Master, Montreal ; Dash, Carpenter, Newfoundland ; Gazelle, Smith, Cape de Verds ; Red Rover, Rosse, Beerod ; Ottoman, Rivctt, Constantinople; Heroine, Mernary, Gibraltar. Arrd. off, Harvest, Quebec; Iclare, Indies. OFF PORTLAND, JULY 19.—Cornelia and Henrietta, Schut, Batavia for Ainsterdam. 21. William, Porto Rico for Amsterdam. BARNSTAPLE, JULY 22.—Arrd. G. Dobinson, Hornsby, Quebec ; British Lady, Scott, Prince Edward's Island. IlaisroL CHANNEL, JULY 23.—Arrd. Caroline, Brooks, Tobago. NEWPORT, JULY 21.—Sld. Serious, Jamaica. CLYDE, JULY 21.—Arrd. Atkinson, Bathurst ; Walter, Johnson, Montreal. 22. Aleeste, Frazer, Trinidad; Phcenix, Kerr, St. John's, N.B. ; Eclipse, Duncan, St. John's, N.B. ; Lord Sidi - Jacinth, Fraser, Quebec. Sailed 20, Maclnroy, Paterson, Trinidad ; Dalmar nock, Burns, New Richmond. 22. Mary Ann, Young, St. John's, N.B. W'IIITEHAVEN, JULY 22.—S1d. Sella, Corlet, Pugwash. DunLIN, JULY 22.—Wind E.N.E.—Sid. 21. Grace Darling, Quebec. OFF KINSALE, JULY 18.—Limeney, Messirner, Nassau, N.P. OFF GLANDORE, JULY 19.—Asia, Gallilci, Richebucto. OFF CAFE CLEAR, JULY 19.—.Manteo, Baker, New Orleans. DROGHEDA, JrLY 22.—The Mary, of and from Washington, for this port, came on shore to the southward of the bar to-day; crew and materials saved. SIIERRINGIIAM, JULY 23.—A headboard marked Prince of WalQs, in gilt letters shaded in black, carved in the form of a fish, with a thistle at the head, plated, apparently belonging to a steamer, was picked up on the beach yesterday. _ . VEssELs SPOKEN WITH.—A large brig, supposed American, aban doned and full of water,was seen 4th inst., lat. 43 long. 50,W. of Paris, by the Salamandre, arrived off Falmouth ; Willem, ichroeder, from Rotterdam, off Anger; Koning, Willem 11., Van der Brugh, from Rotterdam, June 8, lat. 6, N., lon. 22, W., both bound to Batavia, by the Borghorst, arrived at Ilelvoet ; Ajax, Quebec to Liverpool, 16th inst., by the Manteo, Duxbury, arrived off Cape Clear. BRUSSELS, Jurfr 21.—The anniversary of the in auguration of the King was celebrated to-day with the greatest solemnity. M. Van de Weyer will arrive here in the course of this week, but will not immediately go to the Spa, as has been an nounced. ESCAPE OF A LUNATIC.—On Wednesday morning the inhabitants of Westbourne-street, Pimlico, were alarmed by a man who was declaiming in the most horrib:e and blasphemous lan guage, and otherwise exhibiting the strongest symptoms of in sanity. After having attacked a truck which stood in his way, he ran towards a drayman, who was in the act of letting a butt down one of the cellars of the Pine-apple, and nearly knocked him into it ; and then catching hold of a horse, began to beat it about the head, until he was taken into custody by several policemen and others, who providentially came up before any serious accident occurred. It appeared that the poor fellow had only just broken out of an asylum in the neighbourhood. He was conveyed with the utmost difficulty to the station-house, and afterwards carried back in a cab, under the care of a keeper, to the asylum whence helm,: escaped. [AI) VERTISEM ENT.] BAD HEALTH FOR TWENTY YEARS.—IMMEDIATE RELIEF EY HOLLOWAY'S PILLS.— Extract of a Letter from the Rev. George Prior, Curate of Mevagh, Letterkenny, Carrygart, Ireland, May 2, 1845 : " To Professor Holloway.—Dear Sir,—Within a short. dis tance of my house resides a small farmer, who, for more than twenty years, had been in a bad state of health, and never got but a moment's relief. Mrs. Prior procured a box of your Pills for him, which did him so much good, that I heard him say that for twenty years previously he never ate his food and enjoyed it so much as since taking your Pills. Signed, George Prior." Sold at Professor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand, and by almost all who sell medicines throughout the civilised world. THE BATHING IN HYDE PARK.—An alteration took place yesterday in the hours during which bathing is permitted in the Serpentine River, Hyde Park. The hours during the re mainder of the season will be from five to eight o'clock in the morning, and from eight to nine o'clock in the evening. During the sitting of the 17th the Helvetic Diet discussed the question relative to the revision of the Federal com pact. A majority of eight against the expediency of discussion caused It to be put off till next year. The principle of a total re vision of the compact had, therefore, only gained the concurrence of five cantons—Berne, Arsovia, Basle (country), Glaris, and Vaud ANTI-3IAYN OOT II CONFERENCE. (From the Scotsman.) REPORT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PR D 'FE:STANT DISSENTERS' ANTI-MAYNOOTH CONFERENCE, held at Crosby-hall, Loudon, May 20th and 21st, 1845. When this Conference was held, we were unable to do more than give a few short scraps of the pro ceedings, as our columns were then crowded with the discussions in the two Assemblies and in Par liament. We have since looked into the report, which is published in a neat small volume of eighty pages, price sixpence. We have read it with great interest, and only regret that we can not tell our readers in this quarter where to find it; for, strange to say, there neither are nor have been any copies on sale in this town. The im portance and influential character of the meeting may he inferred from the fact, that within a fortnight after the circular was issued, about seven hundred gentlemen obeyed the summons, many of them from distant localities. This Conference must not be con founded with the contemporary assemblage in Exeter where a small nu:nber of Dissenters united, in our opinion very injudiciously, with a crowd of vio lent Churchmen, in raising the No Popery cry, the primary political effect of which is to strengthen the " monster church of Ireland." It is time to strike a blew at the root. The cry should not be against Popery, bw against the /I:tablishinent principle which corrupted Popery, and corrupts every sect on whom its blighting influence falls. The resolutions of the Crosby flail meeting, as the prefatory notice states, "were based upon sound and intelligible principles; and whilst the religious ditii. , rences between Prwestant Nonconformists and Roman Catholics were fully re cognised, and due importance attached to them by the Conference, it will be dlficult to discover in the re port a single expression upon which a charge of in tolerance can be grounded." This is high praise, and justly merited. 'Pile proceedings were generally con ducted in an excellent spirit. The only very violent proposition submitted to the meeting (calling upon Dissenting electors to withhold their votes at next election from every member who had supported the increased grant t o Maynooth) was r e j ec t e d, after an ani mated but temperate discussion. The sober argumenta tive cast of the speeches, and the liberal spirit which they breathe, form a beautiful contrast to the noisy and intolerant declamation of Exeter Hall. We cannot describe the pleasure with which we read the follow ing short address by the gentleman who seconded the first resolution. Our readers will see that it em bodies the precise opinions we have expressed respect ing the Maynooth Bill, and the project of endo fling the Catholic clergy. We wish those who charge the Dissenters with narrow-minded bigotry would pe ruse it : The Rev. THOMAS TOLLER, of Kettering, in se conding the resolution, said—This question, con cerning the grant to Maynooth College, has been to me one of the most trying questions on which I have ever been called to take any practical steps. Holding, as 1 do, in common with my brethren, the utter inadmissibility of all State endowments of reli gion, I have yet felt that, if' ever it would be safe and innocent to depart from a great and sacred prin ciple, it would be so with respect to the proposed grant to the College of Maynooth. When I con sider the gross injustice which has been inflicted on my Catholic fellow-subjects in Ireland, especially in connexion with the existence of an opulent and domi neering religious establishment in that country, I cannot hut feel that, if it were proper that there should be an endowed Church in the world, we ought not merely to grant them the paltry 29,0001., but to transfer the whole of the ecclesiastical pro perty of Ireland to their hands. And having done this, we should hare rendered them but a very mode rate compensation for the many acts of misrule and oppression under which th y have for ages groaned. There is a further ground on which I should have been glad, if possible, to grant them this endowment. I am persuaded it would be the most effectual means of depriving their system of all its moral power. If the voluntary principle be right, then the most effectual way of putting down the force and vital influence of any religious system on the mind of its adherents is to endow that sys tem. Another consideration that made me reluc tant to join in opposition to the endowment of May nootli was this. I have some scruples with respect to political agitation, and the convention of large numbers, with a view to promote any particular object we may have before us. Certainly I never could have joined with those meetings that were convened in another place (Exeter Hall) a short time ago. I hold in the utmost abhorrence that arrogant spirit which would expect that the Legis lature should withhold its patronage from the Roman Catholics, just beca use we te ll t h em that the Roman Catholics are in error. This appears to me to imply the assumption of infallibility. When we endeavor to prove a thing, we depend, for pro ducing Conviction, upon the force of argument ; when we merely assert it in strong terms, without attempting to prove it, we rely, for producing the effect we desire, upon the xveight of our personal or collective authority. But how can we expect our rulers to take for granted, on our bare dictum, that we are certainly right and the Catholics wrong, unles we suppose they will concede to us a claim to infalli bility ? If we are infallible, ou r assertion s.:fficient proof that the opinions we disapprove are false ; but if we are just as liable to be mistaken:is those whose opi nions we condemn, an impartial judge will, of course, before he receives our dictum, compare the numbers and other qualifications of the two parties. And, supposing this rule to be followed, what appearance would the evangelical bodies of England and elsewhere make, in contrast to the vast body of the Roman Catholic community ! I hold that all evangelical bodies, en dowed and unendowed, throughout the world, are a small company, compared with the whole Catholic church ; and, therefore, if mere authority is consi dered, the scale must decidedly preponderate in favour of the presumption that truth is with the Ca tholics, and error with their opponents. So that, I repeat it, unless we assume that we are infallible, we cannot reasonably expect the Government to withhold from Catholics any patronage which it is fit to extend to religion at all, merely because we, forsooth, pronounce their opinions erroneous. The foregoing considerations would have led me, if a great principle had not been at stake, to have sup ported rather than have opposed the endowment of Maynooth. But high and sacred principles must never be abandoned. No considerations of conve nience or expediency—no prospect of good or fear of evil—can ever justify, or render consistent with an enlarged prudence, a departure from them on any occasion. Seeing, therefore, that such a pri nc ipl e is involved in the qu es ti on before us, I feel myself compelled to resist a measure which assumes the right of civil governments to apply public money to the en do wmentor religion. The resolution which has been put into my hands by the committee exactly meets my views on this subject. I apprehend that, in coming forward with such a resolution, I shall purge myself from the imputation of holding any sympathy with those who oppose the grant simply on religious grounds. It appears to me that the only intelligible and solid principle on which we can go forth in oppo sition to the Maynooth grant is the Voluntary princi ple itself. This is the only ground that will stand firm under us. We must go against all endowments of religion, in every form, as offensive to God and unjust to man. Were we to be silent with respect to the endowment bestowed on the Episcopal Church in England, and the Presbyterian Church in Scotland, and to complain only of that now proposed for May- nooth, it would be like expressing alarm at the ap pearance of a pimple on a man's face, when you know there is a cancer which has been for years preying on his vitals." That our readers may be in a condition to appre• date the speech, we subjoin the resolution in support of which it was delivered:— " That this Conference view with serious appre hension and unqualified disapproval, the Bill feu the permanent endowment of Maynooth College, recently , submitted to Parliament by her Majesty's Govern ment, and now proposed for a third reading in the House of Commons; that, differing widely, as they are well known to do, in religious faith and worship from those of their fellow-subjects whom this measure is professedly framed to conciliate, and attaching to such difference the highest importance, they feel it the more incumbent upon them to declare that they would not on this account withhold from others a single advantage which they should justly claim or accept for themselves at the hands of the Impe rial Legislature ; that looking to the circumstances which obviously suggested the Bill, and to the avowed opinion of many of its warmest supporters, they are compelled to regard it as a cautious but de liberate approach towards the establishment of the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland ; that, in their judgment, the alliance of the civil power with any form or forms of religion, and, as the fruit of that alliance, the support by compulsory enactments of religious teachers of any denomination, are dan gerous to the liberty o f th e subject, subversive of the of rights of consci ence , pre j u di c i a l to the cause Christianity, and offensive to God; that, under nderthis conviction, th e y recor d their solemn protest against the Protestant church establishments already exist ing in these realms, as well as against every grant Of public money for ecclesiastical purposes ; and that seeing in the Maynooth Endowment Bill a further extension of a principle, every embodiment of which they hold to be detrimental to the best interests of the empire, they pledge themselves to make every legitimate effort to prevent it s b e i ng passed into 8 law, It is reported that Captain Sir Thomas Hastings (lou thS3O), wills now Captain of the E xce l lent, gunnery skip at Ports. m,Mr. Bonham as Storekeeper -General of the Ordnance Department. Sir Thomas is a distinguished war-officer; his services have been much in requisition by the departraents in all matters connected with the Ordnance since he has been at the head of gunnery instructio n on board the Excellent. THE FRENCH IN ALGERIA< The followirg defence ler the atrocious masses-se in the Dahra appears in the Moniteur Alyerien, of the nth instent : " In order that the public may be able to appreciate: that fatal event, it is necessary that they ehaulo know . how important it was, in a political and humane ,soint of iew, to destroy the confidence which the people of the Dahra and other districts placed in the grottoes of ()tiled Rhin ; all those tribes, considering perfectly secure ihose abodes, proved themselves at all times extremely unruly. Under the Turks, they repeatedly refused to pay the taxes and when the cavalry or the Government pre sented itself, the entire tribe sought refuge in the caves and could not be compelled to pay their quota of the tribute. Abd-el-Kader himself was treated in a similar manner by the Ibehas, in their two revolts against him. He succeeded, however, in reducing them by means of his great moral influence, which enables: him to prevail upon the neighbouring tribes to blockade them and cut off their supplies, but such an expedient would be inifficient in our hands ; the Arabs do not serve the Christians as they would serve Abd-el-Nader. Colonel Pelissier, after a successful ghazia on the terri tory of the Beni Zentes, summoned the Ouled Rhias to submit. A portion of the tribe reluctantly acquiesced, but the others having declined doing so, the Colonel was obliged to attack them. Their warriors, beaten in the field, withdrew into those famous grottoe,s ; where they had beforehand placed their wives, children, ere:We, and furniture. Colonel Pelissier invested them, not however without the loss of several of his men. When the ;r -vestment was complete, lie attempted to persuade theist to come cut through the medium of some Arabs who had repaired to his camp. The latter were fired upon anti one of them was killed. Nevertheless, by dint of per seam raece, the Ouled Rhias were prevailed upon to open a parley, which lasted the whole day, to no effect. They always replied, " Let the French camp be re moved, and we will quit the caves and submit." Colonel Pelissier repeatedly promised to respect their persons and property, not to treat them as prisoners of war, and merely insisted on the surrender of their arms. From, time to time they were told that an abundance of fuel had been collected to warm them, but they obstinately refused to capitulate, and night was fast approaching. \Ves Colonel Pelissier to be deterred from his purpose by their obstinacy ? The soldiers and chiefs would have loudly blamed him. The political consequences of such a de termination would have been fatal, for the confidence of the natives in the security of their grottoes would have increased. Should he attempt to carry them by force ? This would have been almost impossible, and, at all events, he would have lost many men in that subterra nean war, a result equally unsatisfactory for humanity. Should he content himself to blockade them for fifteen days ; he would have lost a most valuable time for the submission of the Debra, and could have afforded no assistance to Col. St. Arnaud, who was also operating in that district. After consulting awhile he determined to recur to the extremity suggested to him by the Governor-General, in a case of such emergency. A number of faggots were thrown from above into the entrance of the cave, which were afterwards set on fire. At one o'clock in the morning Col. Pelissier, moved by pity, caused the fire to be extinguished, but, unfortunately, it was too late, the catastrophe had oc curred. This cruel event, which afflicts us all and strikes our imagination by its novelty in the annals of war, is nut, in reality, more barbarous than many other prac ttees in European warfare, which are not reproved, be. cause of their being regarded as indispensable evils. \\Tar, policy, and even humanity require that recourse be had to every means, however energetic they may be, to hasten its termination as speedily as possible. This is also serving the interests of philanthropy ; for wars,. protracted by the use of feeble means, are the most ruinous and the most destructive of human life. Those incontestable principles once admitted, we ask If the siege of the grottoes is more cruel than the bon.l - and famishing of the entire population of thee a towns in Europe. It is apprehended that the catastrophe of the Ouled Rhia will fill the hearts of the natives with a deep hatred for us. The Arabs will cer tainly feel hatred towards us: that feeling has always existed, and is likely to last much longer. This event will not increase it much; but it will inspire them with a salutary terror, which will be equally favonrable to the victor and the vanquished. The Arabs now per- , ceiling that they must submit to the French yoke, that they possess no longer any secure retreat, will lay down iheir arms and quietly employ themselves in agricultu ral and comm rcial pursuits, which will soon repair the evils of war. If, on the contrary, they had merely ex perienced an easy repression, in accord with the in judicious ideas of philanthropists, they would be often tempted to revolt, in order to recover their indepen dence, and these repeated insurrections would be at tended for them with disastrous consequences, which would render their situation much more cruel than it is at present, in consequence of the terrible blow with which they have been visited. It has inflicted upon them a serious injury, it is true; but its effects are merely momentary. " The interests of the victorious army, and of the en tire of Franc, have also their rights. If, by our forbear ance, we suffer the spirit of revolt to endure, we shall often be compelled to repress, and consequently to sacri fice the limes of a greater number of soldiers and more money than if, from the onset, we had made an example. To follow such a course would not be serving the inte rests of humanity and philanthropy. Energetic repres sions produce the same results in all countries, whether in ordinary warfare, civil wars, or erneutcs. It is prefer able, for the sake of society and humanity, to strike cue decisive blow, than to be obliged to strike often." IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF Gu,d,PluNS, July 23. COUNTY RATES BILL.—PRIVILEGE. Upon the motion that the House go into Committee no the Conrey Rates Bill, Mr. F. FRENCH rose and said, I see, Sir, in the public papers a report that a breach of the privileges of this Howe has been committed, in reg.rd to a speech being published in the Times newspaper of testerdey morn ing, which is attributed to me, and declared to he in correctly attributed—in fact, that I never made such a speech. Now I dare say that there are many Ho nourable Members in the House at the present moment who can bear me out in stating that every single word reported in that speech was spoken by me in this House. I sat by the Noble Lord the Member for the City of London, and on the Ministerial Benches sat the Prime Minister, the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment, and many other persons, and every one of them will vouch that the report in the Times is literally and wholly correct.—(Hear, hear.) I came into the House without any idea of speaking on the subject, but an opportunity appeared to rise to offer itself, and I made some notes while in the House. I happen to have those notes still in my possession, and I have compared them with the speech, as reported, and they bear out literally the accuracy of everything in the speech. Now a reply to that speech has come from another quarter —a very powerful quar ter. It is perfectly true that from long practice the individual may wield his weapons with greater dexterity than 1 can, but I have yet to learn that, when occasion may require it, I can not :strike as hard a blow as he can. I neither court nor fear him, but it is not my intention to carry on a war of abuse, which would neither accord with my own feelings, or be con sistent with my position as a Member of this House. I think I may trespass on the House for a few minutes, while I state my position with respect to this matter. The House is aware that for many years I have taken a good deal of interest in the subject of railways for Ireland. Some years ago, when a pro position was made for constructing railways in the south of Ireland out of the public fund, I opposed it, believing that a line to the west would be more conducive to the interests of the United Kingdom, and tend more to develop the resources of Ireland. In the year IE4I, shortly after the Right Hon. Gen tleman at the head et the Government came into power, I brought the subject at considerable length under the notice of the House. The railway—the Irish Great Western—which gave rise to the present question, was not got up by solicitors or engineers, as these things usually are—it was a Noble Friend of mine and myself who were the promoters of the line. We expe rienced the greatest hostility as well from a rival company as from all the stock-jobbers in the kingdom. Every possible ex pedient was resorted to, to throw obstacles in the way, Not withstanding all this, shares to the amount of from two to three millions of money were applied for. I will now state shortly the circumstances connected with the allotment of these shares. All applications were placed in a committee of directors. It had been stated, however, that considerable negligence had been shown with regard to these applications. I can say, how ever, in reference to this point, that a respectable company in Edinburgh, Messrs. Miller and Hope, stockbrokers, had the selection of the applic a nt s i n th a t part of the country, and lam quite sure that they would allow no individuals on the subscrip tion list unless such as were respectable. In London the lists were deposited with Mr. Hazeltine, and several persons, including the solicitor for the Bill; and Mr. Harris, another solicitor, went round and inquired into the respectability of the parties. A provisional Committee was also appointed to inquire into the application, and to make the allotments. Shares to the amount of two millions were thus allotted. Notice was subsequently given, that unless the subscribers paid up the calls, the deposit on the shares would be forfeited. In consequence of the deci sion respecting the standing orders, the money was not to be had. General Caulfield and others then came forward and said that they would pay up the money and take those shares. It was a mis-statement, however, to say that the direc tors had held any shares in the company for the pur pose of trading in them with a view to profit. I never in my life held above forty shares in this or any other railway. 1 hold these at this moment. I have never parted with one of them ; and, under these circumstances, I think it very hard that it should b e i mpu t e d to me t h at m y exertions in behalf of this line had been influenced by any o sordid motive. I assure the House that to _theeuxns could tienatyh ore not, ofr fortyot, i n any as shares claem, exceed interested, w There and of u h r ai t cr h he e r a; a d n o d nomyt think it fi other number loss things connected with this m atter, ~ore th w House. I a d m i t they necessary occur in I m e ade ; but I must advert to one s tatement which represents m e as canvassing for the support of a powerf u l i n di v i dual in a nother place. to That is perfectly true.—( H ear.) I did see introduceth: speechbf that gentleman for about two minutes, and that was all ; and I asked him to withhold his opposition until my Noble Friend should be in his place to answer the allegations. I was not be fore aware, that my powers of reasoning were so great, that in an interview of two minutes I could convince this gentleman. It has been asserted, also, that the statement I made with respect to the agents were untrue. The statement which I did make before was, that there were interviews with the agent, and that five letters were written—anti that, I repeat, is true. So far, I was correct. It was said that the agent wag not permitted to open the subject. As to browbeating the witnesses, I had not done so. I received the evidence from themselves; and with reference to Mr. Parkes, whose name was mentioned, he merely proved that in forty railway schemes the system was thevery same as in this one. There is another circumstance to which I wish particularly to refer ; I allude to some words which I speke under great ex citement. lam anxious that that imputation should not re main, and I am prepared to state that the strong personal ex pressions which I made use of towards that individual was under a mistaken feeling, as I have since found that he did .not make use of the expressions which I did; but although he made use of words to the same effect, I have no hesitation in with drawing all the personal expressions which I made use of to wards that individual : and further I will state, as every man should do, who has made a mistake as I did, my regret that I used any expressions, offensive either to that individual or to any other person. Mr. CLIVE said, as Chairman of the Comittittei to which the House had referred the Bill, he might • be permitted to say a few words with respect to the tin T olonel ERS. chard obert Sir W. r. .ptaix L. count onel :ander ichard °tint rd 0. lard RS rd C. ward .1)i .pher E. of the er:"