The Sun. — London, England, 1821-04-18 00:00:00

,~ ; 4 1 . , ,0 „,, '• . ',, . • . .. . ' >, 7 7 / ..,” .., / / „.. ~: ..,., 6.--",••__,,,, ,r K•,- t ' i ?'•5 - -,...z! >I --,,, C) l ir '''' a A . 4 .1 •S k ~ _. - t . eiry' _4: tt • . ~,,, A * ' A • 1 0.•-•: A e'e, ' ~,,: ..,„ g . .,??,,iri , t .- ---5 .:4 ;k:•7: v, •-2 _: _ ..--.....-,, Ait _ • ' • 4 14 . 4.- - ,:- #3 ,•••, t,,,...• 4 .17 . - • ,-,, , , f,;., ,, ..? , ,i- , .4,,..% ...-,--. Q.; ,•,• • - 2 7r,t241,4", -• /p: ; 4 irr r oi.etk, `‘. 4 6/ ir. <c i e .•••••• .... 7" - r, c r: . - At, , i,4„..,, -.% , , 1 ' frrii ' l ' M' v 4 , ~ .1 ...m. ., 4 A , ilniC•;:' '." 7 0 ;,..\_ : , t, . g. i" ' • ' 4.• • • ..... t'..: vor i r— ----: fY :.._ /- i . / ./ /" -/41- i --- "" 't *---• _ ..- . NIT7,IIIER 8937.] WEDNESDAY, APRIL 19, 1,:c.121. riiick StirtNit, V itlV-ILLING-OFFIGLI, dpril 17 P riE GOMMISSIONE RS ,for VICTUAL -4k His .I.l.l.lEB7't'S herRG7 A'ofice, that oN Frilau, the,e7th insteinf, Mr,/ will IT ready receit:e 74.veres in writing (rirlcrl up), 7#4 trrlt_fl.• • • NE 1R HENLEY-UPON-THANIES, rro BE LET, _Furnished or Unfurnished. on moderate Tsrms l • fora long or a short period, a Handsome Modern 111:1NS1ON, beautifully situated, with a PARK of 60 'Acres, 'hod an Arable FARM of 200 Acres.— The House is in complete Rep:iir, and calculated for a re spectable Family, containing spacious and lofty .Sitting and Bed hors, good Offices, lately elected, and suitable Ser rants' Apartments, with Coachbonses, Stabling, Walled Gar.' dens, shrubbery, &c. An excellent supply of hard and soft water., The whole, or any part of the Lam), nit be had at the option of the Tenant. Apply for partieulais he Letter, post paid, addressed to .1. 13. Imperial Hotel, Corent Garden. PARLIA .ENT: o,l e Hunth.ed Tens of MUSCOVADO SUGAR, ter he an sweraidc z'oSsnphes (of not b'sa than two poundi weight eoch), prodoced u•ith the Tenders. ,•••• • • • • ot J.X LEAF TOBACCO.. T ;'' liontfeed,QOartersl t . Nero Pate and Or- 'Hundred Quarters of New•Clo.ie dried AMBER MALT; to he e nhaerasto to sanifil•es of one Quart Ettc ~ to b•e, also pro. • „.c i ", , ,00d witis the'renclers: • Thotaand Sachs of PISKF:T BAL . . . `' ta w One Thousand Quarters of new ENGLISI4'PEASE, r;e wicle to he delivered jots ills Majasty's .▪ tore.s.sa Deptford, in the ..vpnce of one -month, (the Solzor, • •‘",..rroi, an d Pease, hl equal we e kly proportinov), nod to he P1z1 .1;7 6 B;1 1 s, ptrya 'S/ w 'tha interest, slrty says after . • (•anditia,, of the Contracts may be spot at the Seers „A' !••• , ; (ord will he had to ante .Tender in which the Pri,f et f, jrot is inserted in lFortis of 1eng . 14,,0r. that shall n6t to the. Board before One o'Cipi•..4 00. • ttie 17t1s ins:lent fibir untess the Persia wk . * nuviee ;". re1A4A... , , or some Person on kis bchql,l, - attends, to an swerl • for# OBLEMEN and GENTLEMEN who are .1-11 desirous of ha►•ing PORT. WINE of extraorilin3iy A , ze, High .Flavottred, and full 13otlicrl, may have sample ILAtles of Pore Wine of the vintage of _ . 1302, 1:3 years in Bottle, at 7s. per Bottle, ditto of 1806, II years in do. 6i. 6d. ditto of 1808, 7 years in do. 6,, 6d.— • by applying at 340; °aft,' d Street.—Please lit observe that nn Person can hare !Imre than two Samples of each or arty ►one sort, nor can any order be executed except foe Sanntles till three days after the order is Oven, as ,the Stock of in a Gentlorali's Cellar in the country, and will only be re moved as sold. Just Published, • A N EPISTLE from the High Priest of the •JEWS to the . Archbishop of CANTERIWItY, on the FATENSION. of cATHoue EMANCIPATION to the JEWS. , . CO N3,ID E ABLE' REDUCTION Iti PRICE, for the Drawing on the t7tb MAY, ALL in DAY il 14 ► ner a ; T • " wenty Shillings for a Si Gui xte as enth fo Chance; tet th oer Chance Shares onl in y propciti on. • of .11,0001. besides 4,005 other Prizes of 4.0001. &c. Consols. and Nlonev, sure to be drasrO 17th TW betides the additi ona l C hance of 103 Numbers fur O of toanol• • be * 4' 4 Every Chanc: Y. !. bought on o r bef ore 17tb May, is sure to decided 17th Ahl d; 3 40 4 No Classes !—Fvety Ticket to be draWn..singly, decid lits own fate, and nq other. Tile Tickets are is.uc i l in Ch ances o f Ti c k e t , Hslf, Q,utr r.Sl .lith, and Sixteenth Chatires, which, are selling by Stock-hroker, No. 4, and F. C K larin '°ll.London, and by his Ag e nts i n th e C ountry, w h o shared, !tild scld in the hist Lottery, - 2,053, Class A 2,888, Class A Three of ,121,000 2,888, Class B , * **Schemes, with full Particulars. Printed for Effingham . Wilson, Itoyd Exchange ;. price is. Ti; is dal , were publi‘tred, in t>vo. price Gs. EMARKS on the Bishop of Peterborough's A, Comparative Views of the CHIAMIES of ENGLAND and ROME. By the Rec. G. GLOVER, Rector. of Southreeps and Billingford, Vicar of .Cromer, an Chaplain to his Royal Highness the Doke of Stir.x. London :Printed for Baldwin, Lradcck, and Joy, Pi,ter noster-row.. NEW VOLUME OF BISHOP O'BEIRNE'S SERMONS. Chis . Da y was pni;lished, in Syn. - c 10s. 6d. in boards, Volume the Third, of, SERMONS; on IMPORTANT SUBJECTS. gratis, , By T. L. O'BEI.ItiVK. 11. D. Lorel Bishop of NI nth. Printed for F. C. onel J. Rirington, 62, St. Paul's Chure yard, aid 3, Waterloo 7 place, mall. Of ‘vhom may be !tail, The First Volume of Sermons, preached on sereral occa sions ; Scn, Hs. The Second Volume of Sermons, nn important subjects, aro. 10s. 6d. • MESSRS. BOYD, BF.NFIELD, ANT) DRUMMOND. ADVERTISEMENT FOR PROOF OF DEBTS. T.HE Commissioners in a renewed Commis. • r „ sion of • Bankrupt awarded and issued forth against ALTER BOYD, PAUL BSNFIELD. and JAMES DRUM. 'OND, o f the ' City of LONDON, Merchants and Copatt. " 4 , intend to meet on MONDAY the nib day of April in iant, at Ten o'Clock in the Forenoon, at Guildhall, Lon- Qc tl. for the purpose of receiving proof of Debts, and sub stantiating the claims already made under the Commission. ADVERTISEMENT FOR DIVIDEND. r rtte- Commissioners in a ren e w e d Commission of Rank ; u Pt, bearing date the sth Day of April, ifrit, awarded and rfped forth nizaichl Walter Boyd, Paul Penfield, and James .11nitnond, of the City of London, Merchants and Copartners, /jnt`'cl totneet on the 3d day of May • at Ten o'Cluck in the t ,, t )on, at Guildhall, London, in order to make a DIV!- , 'ND of the ESTATE arid EFFECTS of the said Bank .`nts, when and wh ere th e CREDIT O R S, who have not ti:!: 4(1 7 proved their D e bt s , are to come prepared to prove st . i la tile, or they will be excluded the benefit of the said Di •';in,‘l • and all Cl a i ms no t t h en proved will b - e disallowed. •_ tt - .'k * P. in order to facilitate the proof of ri wider the above Conmission, the Solicitors to the As- Will attend at the George and Vulture Tarern, Corn. it s ti ' ,l ) the 26th and 47th days of April inst. Prow Ten o'Clock ,Credit morning untill Three o'Clock in the afternoon of each in order to receive it for the Depositions of teors. Every Creditor holding securities far his Debt, is `tied to bring them with him. Ae r , , DAWES AND CHATFIELD, ftes t, Thromorton• street, Solicitors to the Assignees. kr a MEETING of the DEPUTATIONS h of the several TURNPIKE TRUS'fy: trcomttui_the_i_l_.: Irt-r'OLIN,. held at the CROWN and ANC f - 1 1 rii rlv_ i E_ . ItIN , 8 i to 447 Strand; 011 WeiltteSdaY, th e ,. tO 1.744 consideration the Ldp BILL" " ME,I I R I O th POLiS ? TURNPIKE ` J AME'S RICE WILLIAMS', Esq. in the Chair. 1'1k t ,,, , FRESENT, N`I'ATIONS from the following TRUSTS; namely, wis ' r n Trust Uxbriilgt Trust, • ~ _., • 'lie I"l)fine Trust, Kensington Trust, CIA = t ' Trio t. Hallow Tost, • "te a nd l H stead Brentford Trust, !,,. tt,ltasap Isleworth Trust, - ot'Y a l Stamford Hill ' f 'rust, esi r t , ' id Sussex Trust, ~. r 042 T . 1 City Ruud ' Trust. . , N., - ros., I II " '"ew Road Trust, j ' 'tte ° Nlowing Resolutions of the 26th Day of March last, • R te ad :-- .44escolveds the " Me trop,,i! the Meeting having maturely conidered tt t the b pre 'liable'''. Road Bill," are unanimously of opinion, la : Th,, is ""t founded in fait. l'lt r , - , t the present system of local Trusts, ii, bo!h in.p.t of Iten,r;,ll Practice btter calculated for the maintenance r, st ')f ti , ,3sids than extensive Districts, which the state of most 14, 11 .4 'loads round the Metropolis at this time incontesta bl y 4 1t . 1- ":, at t he pri nc i l e and provisions of the said Bill are in ,,f r c if the unde P rstandin , rs and. der,rading to the feelings Nte,pable bodi es o f men who give th e i r ti me an d service "toe,4ill.t°usly, who, from their local residence, are most inteo sokft 'II the state of the Roads, and from their knowledge I.)(Petience, fully competent to their inanugFinciit. t o h 'ln though the Bill permits a few individual T rus t ees t he P °lP 'sens yet, in e ff ect, they will be mere cyphers un d er ‘6,,e,ont rood of General Trustees and the Surveyor Gen : eral, It '''''ll have the entire superintendence and management, *44 ~i.rilitoited power to appoint Sub-Surveyors, . Inspectors, Ae..-tber Officers, to purchase Materials, to make Contracts, f ,•!k t. sp'r. 4, .. Tit .nppears to this Meeting,. that the evident tend i. ency s 1 , .1111 is, to Create unneceSsary offices with .sa Aries "1,,' ' l ? , lk ' ances, which will cause mooch additional expense, 1 14 I':,-ai `heavy burdens on the adjoining Parishes and on .1 14''' 'II, .4.,i,-.a -Alit! opinion of this 'Sleeting, it is mile necessary for all tt,... ,tiill to perceiv e that it will he weak and inefficient th'.l4,zoefol purposes. ly ttt 4t It sitt>, , titut es a rash and hazardous experiment- for-a 4 ,4 14 lanctin ned by longexperienc e , and that there i s reason 1114 r, ieistea,l of improviiig, it may Ultimately be injurious 'l' l c Z.:ids_ t i t t the Nie, oting feel it a duty which they owe in them 'llo:3 and•to Übe Public, to make use of all lawful means to ti,.. t be sail Bill, and do 'recommend it to a general 1 41c1rriti",,n, Its•t, should this Hill he passed onto a Law, ki 4 5' peel, • ' followed by ' •I• spills throughout 11 5, 41.). QV slim ar the je'. an. ft; A:95 as the:li ti 1, tte-salved, That the sa id R esolutions be re- And k,:as forthcr esolved, float this Meeting observing the t''''tt VT - ' • A t t oPo bc •eo up , 6 , , Road Bill" to have heel) read a seco n d tOit I , , n the House of 1-'ontimins, and referred to a Coniniittee; !'tcontationcled to the several Trusts, not to relax in their ',,r„tfons irenpposing Ili said Bill. And 'oat h,s ;',o.eetin,^es l• • ; .•. • ••• • • 1 a Iti . el __,,,.. ... acs! i c , uni.n., all ' , rotate I teas, ant c a e '7 ,.. 1 , 7 . 1 1 mot of general good, feel it their indispen ti,t, fin:' .;, scs call Atte attention of all the' ni . npiLe 'frosts in 1„ :cloni of the acijoioting Parishes, and of the Public at i re ' td' the .• ~• vi, t ,„, .• pc 0r..c...;, t0 and provisions of the said Bill, c,•.1- 1.44 i"t,Lroro its, riatrire, and tendency, and mode of operations . "" 14 l'"?re, ea:4 rernely injurients. • Signed by Order , of the Meeting, j „ rt„ „, . •L. 11, ILLIAMS, Chairman, juAi,..t. -.".Th-nri,, hlving• ,eft cot ' " I. ' ' . j. !IN. w eTe i ._ t . Chair, the . iiani.s or the ' I CIOUS c„,,,, 11,2.niznsl d r., bine for his able anti , wiet to the Oh air. viDi...r., , , . air. , ' 41(4.,,1NELL c' I s • . , ier . to the said Deputation. ARMY ESTIMATES. MINORITY • IN FAVOUR OF REDUCTION IN THE CIVIL. DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY ESTIMATES-bIONDAYI APRIL it;. Allen, J. H. DaVies, T. H. • Noel; Sir G. Bright, 11. Denison, W. J. . Ossuiston, Lord Birch J.. Ellice, Ed.• Parnell, Sir H. Bernal, R. rergusson,Sir R.C. Palmer, C. F. Barrett, S. M. " Fitzroy, Lord C. Price R. Beaumont, T. P. C-ordon, Robt. . •Ramsden, J. C. • Bennet, John . Graham, Sandford Robarts, A. Bury, Viscount Grant, J. P. Robarts, 0. Bennet. Hon. H.G. HoneywOod, W. P... `Rickfofd, Wm. Bating, A.. - "- - Hurite; Joseph Ricardo, David Brougham, 11. llobliouse, J. C. $t 'ton Earl of Crespigny, Sir W. Hurst, Robt. ' Stuart, Lord .J. De H ea th ccte, 0 . J. Smith, Hon. R. Chaloner, Robert Haldimand, W. Smith, R o bt. Cavendish, C. J ames, W . Smith, W. Concannon, L. L us hi ng t on, S . Townshend, Lord C. Crompton, S. Lambton, J. G. Ti erne y, Rt. li n. 0. Creevey, Thos. Milton, Viscount Whitmore W. W. Calcratt Je!tn Maberly, W. Wyvill, M. Duedas, Hon. T. ' Monck, J. B. Wood, Ald. . Duncannua, Visct. Ma r ti n , John • ' Wilson, Sir R. OLD BAILEY. ILLEGALLY ASSEMBLING IVITII FIRE. ATlML—Yester day Richard Wraight, aged 33, and Cephas Quested, agel 311, were capitally indicted for ass2mblin , r, with several other per sons, armed with fire arms, at Lydd, in the County of bent, and carrying away prohibited goods, liable to pay duties. It appeared from the evidence of Mr. Newton, master's mate of the ship Severn, that on the night of the 11th of February, perceiving a flash in the direction of the west, he repaired thi ther in company with others, having first ordered a party to go .to intercept any smuglers. On arriving at the spot from which the flash proceeded, he fired his pistols as a l arm signals, and saw about three hundred men on the ith, an ar me d party of one hundred covering the retreat of two hundred more, who were laden with spirits. Repeated volleys of fire-arms were discharged by the smugglers, and Mr. Newton and his party lay on the ground, the shots passirlg over them in all directions. At length a running fight was kept up for about five miles into the country ; and whenever the smugglers got sight of the blockade party, they fired volleys of musketry, in - consequencenf which nearly every on e o f M r . N ewton ' s party was wounded, and a person, named Mack e n z i e , killed. Seve ral tubs of spirits were seized, and others found on the fi,.1(1 'Of action ; and n e ar one o f t h e tubs a dead smuggler was found. It was during the running fight that the prisoner Quested came up to Mr. Newton and threat a musket into his hand, - saying he was done with the affair. The prisoner was of course taken into custody ; and shortly afterwards the party met the other prisoner, raight, in who se p oc k ets t h ey found some wet powder and W shot. His hands ands face were, also dirtied with powder. This witness was confirmed by many others, who saw the landing of the spirits on the beach. At the .close of the-ease for the prosecution, the counsel for the prisoners took several objections, which were overruled. The pris6ner Wraight put in a written defence, in which he denied any.knowledge of the transaction; and accounted fur his being on the spot, by saying That lie missed his way and wander ed during the night till he fell in with the preventive party. Se veral witnesses were then called, who confirmed his sqternent All in giving the prisoner a good character. Several re spectakle persons also gave Quested a good character. The Jtiry immediately returned a verdict of against Quested, and acquitted Wraight. COURSE Ol' ,EXCI-lANGE, Aratt. 17. Atnstet dans ' Ditto, at Sight is 11 Rotterdam 15 Antwerp 12 11 tu Haburgh 88 7 23 Cs • A Rona 38 8 if Us. Paris, 3 Day's sight 25 80' 0 Us. • Ditto 26 15 Y Us. Bourticaux, ditto MFradrid atiiifortun the Pain f .. 1561 Ex.ftioney So E Ire ctirt Cadiz Bilboa Barcriona • M st ir, Seville 4.... ...... Gibraltar ani Leghorn 46/ Genoa 4 3i-Venice, Ital. Lir. 27 60 Malta 45 --Naples aak Paierwo per .oz. Lisbob • 49i Oporto 49 Rioiatteiro 49 8 BULLION. Portugal Gold, hi Col ii / .0 0 0 per 0:. Fortigii Gold, iu 13:u s New Doublo o n s New Dollar 4 0 4 10 Silver in Burs, Stand:Lrtl , u I.i 1 I fa OF ,L4OI,WS, APR IL 17. The LORD CLIAN:r,L,L ocn; presented :Petitioit:l from four different parishes in :LeicesterShire ainst the .Catholic 13111.--Laid on the table.- 1 — Mr. Richardson, front the :CoMmission ers f or building New Churches, "presented an Account of thO rixpepces incei red beyoed the provisions' of the .59th of his late Laid .on the I;rogqen, and o o iers b roug h t up from, the Commons ;the Irl s h judicial Officies Bill, and several private were read a first time.--Petitiofts against the Catholic Bill were presented from the Corperatiou of Kendall, in Westmor e l an d, an d from the D e ane r y of lire 7 con and several.other Deanries in Wales. The lar, ter by the Bishop ofSi. 04 vid's. Laid on the table. The Earl of .00: . 4)4.:n7niultr. rose to correct ini porta mistakes which had inadvertently crept into sonwof the reports of what had fallen from hith last night. First, when he presented a petition from the Catholic Warden and Clergy of Galway; and when he ad verted to the'Resolutions ofanotlier respectable body of Cathelics, those of county of Kerry ;in 'both cases - the parties objected to the part of the Bill which restricted the inter course with Rome, whereas the reports inadver tently stated both to be in favour of was also represented, at the conclusion of his speech, to have stated he had no , o bj ec ti on to t h e veto, whereas the greater part of what he said was in tended to reprobate that restriction, as . entirely unnecessary, and he considered'it as a heavy and unjust infliction upon them by the Catholic Clergy. Ills Lordship added, that, though standing as he did with the public as the advocate for this mea sure to that house, it was i m p or t an t f o r hi m to have the grounds of his argument correctly un 7 derstood ; yet he felt himself no less bound to state how just a sense he entertained of the gene ral accuracy of the reports of their Lordships' proceedings upon that important question. CATHOLIC BILL. The Order of the Day for resuming the ad journed Debate having been read, The Bishop of ST. DAVID rose to oppose the second reading of the Catholic Bill. The Con stitution of this country, though originally not exclusively Protestant, had been formed from the Cons,titution of Clarendon downwards, by a series of checks given to the authority of the Pope, and completed by the laws passed in the time of Henry 'VIII. Since that period the ex clusion of Catholics from the enjoyment of poli tical power had , become an integral part of the Constitution. With respect to the present Bill, he objected to it, becauselt did not seem likely to produce the effect which the supporters them selves•had in view. The security of the Church of England could never be increased by giving power to her rival, the Church of .Rome. Ile objected to the oath proposed, because the oath, as it now stood, expressed his real sentiments.— "Te meant to keep it when he took it, and shot'? falsify it that night, if he gave his vote in favour of the bill. He objected to the bill, because it infringed the great privilege of the King as head of the Church, and allowed the Roman Catholics to look upon the authority of the Pope as superior. The measureappeared to him a complete anomaly, for it would permit the professors - ofa religion, the dogmas of which were hostile to the Established Church, to hold seats in that House without first renouncing those dogmas. He objected to the Bill, because it proposed an oath which no con scientious Roman Catholic could take, whilst the whole tendency of the preaching and ministry of their church was directly or indirectly to over throw the Church of England. He objected to the Bill, because it was contrary to the Acts- of Union, by which the Protestant religion was de clared inviolate, and .removed the securities hich alone could make it so, without a satis factory equivalent. It. was impossible to con template without alarm the consequences of the 'great change which such a measure would effect in a system, NI hich had given the countrylts pre sent dignity. The opponents of the Bill had been frequently pressed for proofs of its dangerous tendency. What could be more dangerous than to commit political power to persons, whose fo reign interests made it impossible that they should give the securities required, and who would not even swear to give those securities ? The Duke of Yonle rose with the utmost re luctance to oppOse the second readingof the Bill; but there were occasions oh which it became an individual-not to step aside, but to come forward, and boldly avow the sentiments which he enter tained. The present he considered to be one of those occasions; for were not their Lordships called upon to sanction a measure, which it was admitted, even by its advocates, would effect a great change in the Constitution established at the Revolution of 1688, and in the system which had placed his Majesty's family on the throne ? When mehsures similar to the present had been proposed by a Statesman, who had rendered the most eminent services to his country, he ,(llis Royal Highness) had strenuously opposed them, on a thorough conviction of their dangerous ten dency. The more he had since heard the sub ject discussed, the more he had been confirmed in the opinion which he had then expressed. He had always understood that the Church of Eng land was an integral part of the Constitution : long might it ren.iitin so. But let not their Lord ships imagine deli he was an enemy to toleration. lie should always he happy that every sectshoold have the full exercise of ifs 'religion, as long as it did not affect the security of the Established Church, and as long as its members remained loyal subjects. But there was a great difference between allowing the free exercise of religion and granting political power. As he felt him self inadequate to the task of entering into the details of the question, and wised not to detain .those Noble Lords who Were better qaalkfied to take air expansive view of the subject, he should Only repeat, that his opposition to the Bill arose from piniCiples which he had embraced ever since he had beet able to judge for himself,-and which he hoped to unlictain to the last . day of his life. The Earl of DA n r.rY felt the deepest regret' at having had the Misfortune of hearing what had just been delivered by the _Heir apparent to the Grown. Lie was not surprised, however, at the sentiments e'xp'ressed bS that - liltistious Indivi dual,. however be might regret them but .he ,could not help feeling some astenishment at those delivered by some of the Noble Lords opposites ail particularly at the speech Or the Noble Lord who had OloVed - the A Meodel - e:i.t yesterday,The line of argument pursued by that Noble Earl appeared to him completely misplaced ; and on being asked whether the speech wars not a good one, he could only answer, 'that it might be good, but it should have been spoken a cen tury ago. It renewed all those charges made against the Roman Catholics during the irritation produced by the calumnious evidence Of Titus Oates, and when a Noble Lord had been ap plauded in that House for saying that he would not apprOaelia catholic woman, nor have a Ca tholic dog, or a Popish cat. The doctrines then changed upon the Roman Catholics bad over and again been-disclaimed on oath by them, and they . had given sufficient proofs that their oaths were to be trusted. lie had been also astonished to hear a Rev. Prelate state, that the Catholics still adhered to the doctrine that no 'faith was to be kept with Heretics. !lad they not every way disclaimed that abominable doctrine ? He should remind those Reverend Prelates of the declaration. of Scripture, that true Christian " charity be lievetli no evil," and that it was against the true spirit of Christian charity to attribute to Roman Catholics a thictrine which it was well known they had repeatedly and most solemnly disclaim ed. When he recalled to his mind that constel. !talon of talent arrayed in favour of the Catho lics. When he recollected a' Burke, a Fox, a Pitt, a Wyndham,a Sheridan, a Dundas, a Romil ly, a Whitbread, and that illustrious patriot who had dedicated a long life to the service•of his country, whose name wouldlive in the annals of Ireland, as long as gratitude :itself could exist whnrn'he had lately seen followed to the grave • by the regrets of all parties, and whose (last, in the absence' of the mighty spirit, still rested dose to the place of their ''Lordships' deliberations. When lie recollected that - all these great men considered it an act of justice, as well as a mea sure of security, to restore to the Catholics the enjoyment of their rights, he felt consoled at dif fering in opinion with the Illustrious Individual and the 'Right Rev. Prelates who opposed the Bill. When also he looked before him, and saw not the least distinguished of his Majesty's Mi nisters advocathe; the measure When he beheld the friends by whom he was surround ed, he felt confident ,that so great 'a concur rence, of talent had never been united. before on one point. Thi s un i on was not t h e effect of ac cident ; as well might chance be thought to have created the world. It would never have taken place bad there been no grounds for the opinion which he was now delivering in support of the Bill. If the force of long continued opiuli;ns and prejudices had not warped the judgment of the opponents of the measure, they at least'viewed its dangers through 'a medium which distorted and magnified their nature. What would be the only immediate effect of the Bill ? The admission to their birth-right of the Duke of Norfolk, the Earl of Shrewsbury,—in all five or six represen tatives of the most ancient families in the country. Wou.ld their Lordships seriously contend that any danger would accrue to Church and State from the restoration of such characters to their rights ? It had been asserted that a system of exclusion had always existed, and was coeval with Magna Charta itself. But those who expressed such opinions forgot the times of Queen Elizabeth.-- Then indeed might she have considered the Popish 'Religion as inimical to her interests. She was assailed by every dang er ; s h e was even ex communicated by the Pope, and yet did she re fuse a Catholic Counsellor, or a Catholic Com mander of her fleets and armies ? No, she did not even exclude the Catholics from sitting in i 'arliament. In the Test Act, passed in the reign of Charles If. - a provision Was made to guard against its affecting any Peers sitting in that House.' It was only five years afterwards, after the panic produced by the agency of Titus Oates, that the measure had been made general. But it Might be said, that although the Bill would only introduce six Catholic Peers into that House, the House of Commons, being formed by popular election, might become wholly Popish. The small number of Catholics -in this country ren dered the danger, as far as E ng l an d was concern ed, imaginary. fow stood the matter with re spect to Ireland ? Might not the one hundred Irish Members be all Catholics ? These Mem bers were chiefly for comities and for open bo roughs, and those who knew any thing of county elections in Ireland, must be aware that they were any thing but popular. He would rather call them aristocratical, for though the people were Catholics, vet they acted entirely under the influence of - Protestant •landlords.— Four or five Catholic Members might possibly be returned to Parliament, and supposing them to be conspirators ag - ainstChurch and State, would not the Protestants still retain the rod in their bands ? Would it not be in their power to tread back their steps ; to say you have deceived us ?--- And could a doubt be 'entertained of the conces.. sions being repealed ? HOw was it possible that a King, surrounded withProtestanrCOUnsellors,"- should admit a Catholic to 'any office of high trust • • except by the thvice of these Counsellors.? But it might certainly, - happen, after the lapse of ' few. years, that transcendentmerit would audio; • • rise such an elevation. Had a Noble Thai , op--• posite (the Duke of Wellington)6eit a Cathelic i . he •did not believe that the most. Protestant Mi.- nisters would have been disposed to reftise to great services the honours with which they hatr been rewarded., He could- find no - reason to :sup., pose that the power pr o p ose d to be g ranted :to the " - Roman Catholics would - be =Tied to any #x'-' tens, but if it were be was convieeed•it would no! • be abused. They had given every 'pledge of sin- • cerity in agreeing to the oaths proposed, , atid• ,they ought to be. believed on their - oaths, waien, they were only excluded from all the -adyanta?.,ea of their birth-right by their, respect for oaths. • Instead of endangering, be felt confident that the .• present Bill would confirm. and' strengthen the .. • best interests of .Church and State. • , That great measure of Christian charity,. of true policy and • substantial justice, must. ultimately pass. He would tell the Roman Catholics to pursue- the same line of moderation and forbearance which they had hitherto adopted ; he would-te)l th,!ist that the spirit of liberality would progressively .increase, and that sooner or later, and whatever might be the fate of the motion this night, it would be soon, they would be met by their Protea • tant brethren in the enjoyment of coalition right,. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he"rose to op. pose the second reading of the Bill, because, whatever distinctions the Noble. Mover might think proper to make, the real question • before them was, whether they could agree so far in the enactments of the present Bill, as to think it worth while to attempt a remedy to its imper fections in the Cominittee ? lie had heard with. regret the observations of the Noble Mover With resPect to histonduct and that of a Noble Earl (of Liverpool), when the first reading of the Bill was proposed ; but as they felt it to be thei_.• duty to adopt the course which they had takea with regard to the measure, though he regretted the observations, he could not say that he -wars sorry for the conduct which produced them. Ire would beg leave, in the first instance; _to make one obserVation on the view which the Noble Lord who had just sat down had taken of that • Bill. Ile was pleased to say, that sooner or later it must be •carried; still, however, attached'as he was to the civil, and religious liberties of this country, including in his notion of them the to leration of all, he would continue to do his duty by expressing his sentiments,.." through good and through evil report," and if the majority.of their Lordships should be of opinion that he was in error, he would at least enjoy the satisfaction of feeling that his error was not willingly com mitted. The question now was, as he had stated in other words before, whether the Bill was cap.; able of such improvement, that their Lordships would make up their minds. to pass something• like it? If lie was .of opinion that any rneasurt. with a similar object ought to be"adopted, was not the measure, but aoother and a •different one. The Noble Earl was , pleased to say, than.' those who opposed the Bill constantly changed their ground, but he might have said with more, correctness, that' its advocates _were, constantly changing their ground. had been his painful duty to oppose motions for going into Committee on the question from time to time since th • Union ; for he thought it was not by _a Com mittee, but by a distinct measure that any 'proceeding should be . takers, if it was- lit that it should be taken at all. He had al ways disapproved of the former course, because he was unwilling to hold out expectations to his" Majesty's Catholic subjects, as he was willing to call them, though a march was attempted to be stolen on the Protestant in the very language of the Bill. He did not say that the object of those who brought in the Bill was such, but if it was . such, it could not have been better provided for. , There was no man who entertained a more affec tionate regard for the late Mr. Pitt than he dill, and if he did net feel it to be his unbending duty not to surrender his own opinion, even, to the opi nion of that great man, he would have seconded the Resolutions which were proposed after th Union.. But he felt that unless Mr. Pitt could show him what securities he meditated, he was bound to oppose him ; and he would state tha he had never heard from that distinguished indi vidual, the mention of any particular securities, though he had always admitted that they ev er .: necessary. In had pleased God to deprive this country 'Allis services, 'and he lay buried in th, sepulchres of mortality. But still they had great men left. The Noble Baron near him was one whom he had always looked up to with the high est reverence, and he thought that securities were necessary. They were both great and constant friends of the. Protestant Establishment; and they felt that while it was.proper to conciliate the Catholic mind, it was essential that the Pro testant mind should not be disturbed by the a teration. But lie would ask,, was there ever a description'of securities proposed which the pre : , would he willing to give and the other to accept I —Were they not at the present moment in the situation ofsgranting privileges without any seri , - rifles at all ? lie was ready to admit that if ;t could be done without danger, it ought to be done. He, denied that they coutd legiatt•e: on the principle a hich was stated by a Right Reverend Prelate last night.--It was; in, his opinion, .the duty. of a State •to lake , care of the religion. of the country. 'Fortunately,. for the country, it had adopted that •re li,gion