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iitELAND. THE STATE TRIALS. FOURTH DAY-BY EXPRESS. ~.; ( FROM OUR OWN REPORTERS.) bUBLIN, THURSDAY, JAN. 18. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH. • THE QUEEN v. DANIEL O'CONNF.LL AND OTHERS. The vicinity of the Four Courts presented a busy seene this morning, it being generally known that the evidence on the part of the prosecution would be com menced by the examination of Mr. F. Bond Hughes. Though persons are only admitted to the body of the Court by ticket, so that more than a certain number ottnnot get in, the Rotunda is daily crowded with per sons who obtain some knowledge of what is going on within from those who occasionally pass in and out. The Court sat precisely at ten o'clock. The traversers wore in punctual attendance. The jury having been called over, and having answered to their names, The Clerk of the Crown—Direct the crier to call Fre derick Bond Hughes. Mr. Hughes entered the Court with a large bundle of papers under his arm, and ascended the table. His ap pearance in Court excited much curiosity. Having been sworn by the Clerk of the Crown, he proceeded to give evidence. SOLICIToR• GENERAL---What is your name? Witness —Frederick Bond Hughes. You are a short-hand writer? Witness—Yes, I am. You have been constantly.in the habit of reporting ? Witness—Yes, I have been reporting for the last seven teen or eighteen years. -Upon different occasions ? Witness—Yes, upon dif ferent occasions. - Do you remember having come over to this country in September last ? Witness—Yes,l do. .On what day did you arrive ? Witness—On the 29th of September—on the 30th, I mean. •On what day of the week'? Witness—On Saturday. I never was in Ireland before. I recollect the following day, the Ist of October. I went to Mullighmast on that day. I think I arrived there about half 7 past twelve o'clock. There were a •great many persons assembled about the grounds when I got there—a large number. I should think about thirty or forty thousand persons, as near as I can guess. I could not see over the whole ex tent of the ground. I saw persons coming from different places with banners.. If you will allow me to refer, to my book I shall tell you the inscriptions I took on that occasion —a note or memorandum .of what passed ; that is, of the speeches. I haveit here. I saw the inscriptions. " Hurra . for the Repeal !" was one of them. "A Nation of Nine Millions is too strong to be dragged at the tail orally other eountry ';" in front of the platform wasan inscription, " The Man who commits a Crime is an Enemy to . this Country," " Ireland must be a Nation." There were seve ral persons in and about the platformovith papers round their hats, and staves in their hands ; there was an in scription on the papers, " O'Connell's Police." I know the traverser, Daniel O'Connell. I see him' in . Coart. [lre Mr. O'Connell who sat at the table, immediately under the witness's chair, rose and boWed with a smil4 to the witness.] Mr. O'Connell arrived 'at the place of meeting abOut two o'clock. •I am not aware that I . saw Mt. John O'Connell on that occasion. There were some of the gentlemen present whose names I. learned, Mr. Ray and Dr. Gray. •I think should recollect Mr.. Ray (the witness here turned to the traverser's box in which Ma Ray and Dr. Gray sat and - identified - both gentle men.) I know Mr. Thomas' Steele.' I - saw him at that Meeting. I See him now in Court. Mr. O'Connell was dressed that 'day in a sort of velvet robe,' scarlet or claret colour. Some gentleman pro posed that Mr. O'Connell should take the chair. That motion was put and carried. Mr. O'Connell addressed the meeting on his taking the chair.; I took notes of what Mr. O'Connell said upon that occasion to the best of my ability.. I took my notes in short-hand. I have both the transcript and the original notes here (a large parcel which lay before the Clerk of the Crown was here opened, and several neatly bound boo (s were taken out,'one of which was handed to the witness). The SOLICITOR-GENERAL then desired the witness to read to the jury what Mr. O'Connell said, which he pro ceeded to do. When. he came to a particular passage the Chief Justice desired him to read it over again, which he did as follows 1-•:--u I admit that the union has the force of law, because it is supported by the policeman's trun cheon, the soldier's bayonet, and the horseman's sword ; but it is not supported by constitutional CHIEF JUSTICE-What is the niimber of that paper or page from which you are reading ?" • Witness—Page 5, my Lord, from No. 1., book The witness continued to read Mr. O'Connell's speech on taking the chair. Wheri the witness had read as far as the passage, " and take pitibm - xne that the union is void," The SOLICITOR-GENERA :- said that if the traversers wished they might extuidne him as to the other portions of the speech. Mr. HATcHELL, Q.C.,. said it would be better to read the whole of it, as there were portions of it still unread, which might be important on the cross-examination. Witness—The whole of the speech? . Mr. HATCIIELL—Yes ; there are passages here and there interspersed that we think most material to the traversers. • • Witness then proceeded to read the remainder of Mr. O'Connell's - speech at the meeting at Mullaghmast. I &lard resolutions proposed at that meeting. The first resolution was proposed by Mr. Aylmer, see page 313. I heard the Second resoltition, which was proposed by Joseph Hacket,of Kilkenny, and seconded by Alderman . Keshan; it was as follOws; We, , the . geetry, , clergy, freeholders, and other inhabitants of the province of Leinster, here assembled, do deelare,in the' face of Hea ven and our country, that no power on earth save the Queen, Lords, and Commons-of ; Ireland, can make lawi for Ireland." That resolution was put from the chair and carried. SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Who, was the chairman?—Mr. O'Connell was. The resolution was carried. After that I saw some gentlemen come forward and present Mr.' O'Connell with a velvet cap. It was a round velvet cap. It was presented to Mr. O'Connell by Mr. O'Cal laghan. Mr. O'Callaghan said he was deputed by the Committee, whose names were attached to the address, to present him (Mr. O'Connell) with the national cap. Mr. O'Callaghan also presented an address to Mr. O'Connell (witness read the address). Mr. O'Connell—Who is that signed by?—By Mr. White and other gentlemen. SOLICITOR-GENERAL. —What was done with the cap after that ?—lt was placed on the head of Mr. O'Connell. Did he then say anything ?—Yes ; he said he ac cepted the gift with pride and pleasure. The witness went on to read the observations of Mr. O'Connell on the occasion. There Was another resolution read at that meeting. SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Look. "to page 46 of your re port. Witness—lt is before .me. SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Read the resolution which you find there. The witness read the resolution, which was to the *effect that a pittitioh ,be prepared and presented to the Imperial Parliament for a repeal of the union. SOLICITOR-GENERAL—WAS that resolution put and carried ? Witness:---It was. SOLICITOR-GENERA .-- 7 14c0k to page 49 of your report, and read the resolution contained in it. , • ' Witness • read the resolution, which' was a vote of thanks to, and of confidence in, Mr. O'Connell. Witness in continuation , --That resolution was not put by Mr.' O'Connell, but by. a' gentleman who took the 'ohair after him. The meeting was held in open air at 'the Bath of Mullaghtnast. I saw several gentlemen there that dax. (lie•pninted out and identified Mr. John O'Connell, Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Steele. He looked about, . apparently' for Mr. Barrett, but that gentleman was 'not then in Court. He then . identified Dr. Gray and Mr. 'Ray.) . • . SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Did you know the persons .o,f the traversers before that day ? Witness—No, I 'did not. I knew• the persons of . Mr. Daniel O'Connell and Mr. John O'Connell. Mr. John O'Connell was in the chair after dinner. I heard him speak after dinner when proposing the toast " The Queen." (He read the speech): I heard several letters read ; there was one read from Mr. Thomas Ffrench, of Castle Ffrench. (He read the letter). It was dated the 2Gth of September. There was a gentleman pre sent at the dinner who, I was told, was Mr. Barrett. That person spoke, on that occasion. (He then read a report of the speech made by Mr. Barrett). To SOLICITOR. GENERAL—Mr. O'Connell spoke at the banquet. This followed the meeting. (Referred to his notes, page 27.) Mr. O'Cennell then said—This was a most delightful day for him, a day full of consolation and hope. How glad he was to be at Mullaghmast. Mr. O'Connell—Speak a little louder. Witness continued to read from.his notes the speech of Ms. O'Connell to the part, " We had not one So vereign of her family who was not a decided enemy of Ireland ?" Mr. HATCITELL, Q. C.—You have omitted the refer ence to the' Queen. - Witness—" We had not a Sovereign save herself, who was not a decided enemy of Ireland. ' Mr. O'Connell—Read correctly, Mr. Hughes. Witness continued—" She was the first sovereign of tie House of Brunswick that treated this unfortunate country withjustice, and it is nfflicting to think that her Ministry are so base and perfidious, So paltry and selfish, as to endeavour to obtain advantages for themselves and . their party at the expense,of the high andchivalrous feel - ing of exalted allegiance which the people of Ireland bore, aye, and still bear, to their Queen." Witness read . till he came to say, f. a proof that each man • Witness-4 might have misunderstood him. He proceeded to read to the words present o r i , - ' pressore—= Mr. FrriainnoN, Q.C.—Oppressors? • • Witness continued And when he came to that " portion of the speech in which Mr. O'Connell spoke of the hostility of the Minister to Ireland, considerable ex • citement was manifested in Court, at the different allu : sions and expressions, of the Hon. Gentleman. The fol lowing passage in , reference to the Duke of Wellington, was received with great laughter. " The poor old Duke! what shall I say of him? To be sure he was born in Ireland, but being born in a stable does not make a man a horse." The witness continued to read to the close of the speech, when th e examination was resumed. The SOLICITOR.;GEDIERAL—Tarn to pages 6,7, and 8 ; see if the name of Mr. Ray is mentioned there. Witness—Yes, - it is there. The Chairman having given the toast attic " Re.al Association," called upon .Mr. Ray to answer it. Mr, Ray rose and spoke to toast. [The witness here read Mr. Ray's speech, and then at Ake direction of the Solicitor-General, tnrning,to 7,8, 9, read Dr. Gray's speech in answer to the toast 7 ,-" The dismissed magistrates, and Repeal Arbitrators." Natantiaation continued--I remember attendinl a mee ing at the Corn Exchange the day after, the meeting at Mullaghmast ' • it was on the 2d October ;_ I got admis sion there by having stated that I intended to report; on the following day I obtained a ticket of admission from Mr. Ray; the words upon the ticket were, " Admit the bearer, Mr. Hughes, of the press, to all our meetings ; at the time I got that ticket I said, " You had better mention that I am the reporter for the Government ;" Mr. Hay said, "No, that will be sufficient, it will admit you ; the Conciliation Hall will be open soon, and we will have a different place then for yourself ;" it was un derstood at Mullagbmast that I was - the Government reporter. At the conclusion of Mr. O'Connell's opening speech there he stated that he understood there was a gentleman there on behalf of the Government. I then got up, and said that I attended on behalf of the Go vernment to report the proceedings. Mr. O'Connell then said that on former occasions, when Government report ers had attended, he had afforded them every facility, and furnished them with documents, and that he should be happy to afford the same accommodation to me. I believe it was also through Mr. O'Connell that I received a ticket for the banquet. (Witness here iden tified Mr. Barrett as one of the persons who attended the meeting at Mullaghmast.) On the 2d of October, did you take notes'of what oc curred at a meeting of the Association at the Corn Ex change?-4 was not there at the'connriencement A Juryman here withdrevy. The Solicitor -General not having observed it, was apprised of the fact by the Court, and the examination was. suspended. • The Foreman of the Jury complained that they had difficulty in hearing. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL desired the witness to speak lender. Mr. O'Connell also begged the Foreman of the Jury to desire the witness to speak louder in giiing his evi dence, as he occasionally sunk his voice. Mr. FORD said it would be well ifthe'CoUrt would re- • Move that parcel of barristers from the Court who were :getting phthisical and coughing.--(Laugliter.) .The-Sommon-GENERAL then resumed the examina tion;,desiring the witness to speak as load .as he could and slimly. Have you got.the notes of the meeting at the Corn Exchange of the 2d October have. • DD you find- there a . speech of. Mr. O'Connell, deli ilered'after a - letter from Lithetick had been read - by Mr. Ray" 7 2 -. I do. 'Witness then' referred' to his notes and' read the speech of Mr. O'Connell on, that occasion, 'who referredto a paragraph that had dppe4ed in the papers, beaded !‘ Military- organisation l et Clontair," and, stated that though a good . quiz it . never, ought to have been printed •, he hoped the Government would take no-notice of it, and pointed out that sonic arrangements as to.the horsemen and carriages was absolutely necessary to pre bent confusion among'so great a number. • Now turn to the notes of what occurred at the meet ing of the 3d October;' but before - We go to that, state which of the traver§ers were present at the meeting Of the 2cl'of October ?—Arr. O'Connell and ,Mr. Ray. Was-Mr. Steele there ?—lie ivaB. Which of them were present at : the meeting' of the 3d ?—Mr. O'Connell,, Mr.. J.: O'Connell, Mr,l-)uffY, Mr. Ray, Mr. Steele, the Rev. Mr. Tierney - , and br, Gray. Do you see Mr. Duffy in Court ?—I do. And the Rev. -Mr. Tierney ?—I do. • • Look at page 13 of your notes, and state whether a letter was read from Loughrea ?—I must state that all the letters and papers - in my notes are- not copies of the originals. I had, applied t 6 Mr. Ray for them, but had been told that I could not ohtain them. staving also been told that the copies printed in the papers were authentic, 'I copied them. . Who told you they were authentic .the first in stance I applied to Mr. Ray at Mullaghmast; for copies of the resolutions passed-at the meeting, and. when I saw. Dr. Gray he appeared to have 'some reluctance to give. them. Mr. FITZGIBBO2-1 . beg your. pardon, please state • ex actly what Dr.' Gray Said.' • The CHIEF JUSTICE—When did you see him first ? Several days afterwards. Mr. FITZGIBBON—State exactly, what Dr. Gray said ? —Dr. Gray told me he could not find the resolutions that were passed at the Mullaghmast meeting. I did not procure them subsequently. Dr. Gray told me expressly that he could not find them. • I told him I had applied to him, because Mr. O'Connell had promiied them to me, and that I wished him to communicate with Mr. O'Connell on the subject. He replied he would take an hour to consider, and that he would write me a note at the end of that period stating what his deter mination was. I said, " Oh, no ; do not write to me, you bad better see Mr. O'Connell." I was then leaving the room, and as we were going out of the door by the staircase of the. Corn Exchange, O'Connell was coming up, and I said, " Oh, here is Mr. O'Connell; now, Dr. Gray, will you speak to him ?" Mr. O'Con nell addressed mc, and said, " Well, Mr. Hughes, are you here for documents ?" or something to that effect. ',think that that is nearly what he said. I answered that I had applied to Dr. Gray for the resolutions paasen at Mullaghmast, and that he had told me he could not find them. Mi. FITZGIBBON—You are !quite certain that Dr. Gray used those words ? If you are,not certain do not swear it ? Witness—Yes, I am pretty certain he said that. - SOLICITOR-GENERAL—GO on and state what next happened. Witness—Dr. Gray 'then - took Mr. O'Connell aside into a room; shortly' afterwards Dr. Gray came out. On his coming out I asked him, " May I have the documents, or do you,refuse them?"' He replied, " Oh, no, I do not refuse them ; I do not mean any disrespect to you, but I can't lay my hands on them." And he further added, "I do not think I - should waste my time in wiating these':oht: for Sir Robert Peel." I replied that "Iliad 'nothing to do with Sir Robert Peel, and that I wai applying tci him in my 'character as a short-hand , writer 'for those documents." He thereupon replied, " Oh, ythi may take • them from the newspapers ' • they are authentic." On the following day I was in the Corn- Exchange, and -Mr, O'Connell was there. I addressed him, and told him that Dr. Gray had refused to give me copiesof the resolutions, but told me they were authentic as, they, appeared it the newspapers. He replied, " Yes, yes, they are authentic." A letter from Loughrea was read-at the meeting of the Association on the 3d of Oct. I got this copy of a letter from Mr. Ray ; it is dated Loughrea, Oct. 2, 1844, and was read at the meeting of the Association on the 3d of Oct. (The witness then read the letter, which inclosed 141. as the subscription of 14 of the Town Commissioners, and was signed Patrick Skerrett, chairman, Wm. M'Carthy, secretary.) It was Mr. O'Connell read that letter. SOLICITOR-GENERAL -- Did Mr. O'Connell make any observation immediately after reading the concluding passage " that they were determined to remove two or three recusants from the body with all possible dispatch, when the opportunity offered ? Witness—Yes ; he said they were right to turn out those who would not become 'Repealers. Judge PERRIN—Is that letter addressed to any one ? 7 —Mr: O'Connell said " I received this letter this morning." Judge PERRIN—Is it addressed to anybody ? Wit ness (after again looking at the document)--This is a copy, and there is no address on it to any.—(The wit. ness,then went on. reading Mr. O'Connell's observations in moving that the letter be inserted on the minutes, and the thanks of the Association conveyed to the writer, and the Other worthy gentlemen named therein.) Mr. 'Steele Was • present at that meeting. He said he rose to' second - the motion of the Liberator ; that he had ex 'pressed some very strong opinions on the Louglirea meeting ;' that" he considered that meeting more lin :portant thin that at Mullaghmast, where "Behemoth, biggest born of earth, . Upheaved its vastness." (Seniation thiciughout the Court.) Dr. Gray was at that meeting ; he read the names of certain persons, whom he moved should he appointed ; arbitrators ; Mr. O'Connell seconded the. motion, and it was carried. , Dr. Gray then said he had a short' report trent the:A.rbitration Cora mittee -to present, and he had to move that some gentle men be appointed arbitrators, the first of whom was a gentleman who was recommended by no less than eight millions of people. He was known by the name of the Liberator, and he moved - that -he be appointed arbitrator for the city of Dublin, which motion was seconded and carried, and Mr. O'Connell said that lie accepted the' office, and would devote one day in the week to the-duties' of it, with the other gentlemen who were named. , Dr. Gray,*at that meeting, read a list of arbitrators that were admitted, many of whom were gentlemen who had been dismissed from the commission of the peace. SOLICITOR-GENERAL--Did Mr. O'Connell make any observations respecting that document ? Witnesslle said " I hope I shall live to see the day when the hall of the Four Courts will be very empty."—(Laughter.) SOLICITOR-GENERAL —Look to passage 64, and see if any observations were made by Doctor Gray. Wit ness—Atter •he had moved the admission of Mr. Balfe -Is an arbitrator, and the motion was carried ; he said, " I wish to state, before we •leave the question of arbitration; that all the necessary documents have been forwarded to the districts where the arbitrators have been appointed. I recommend the parties not to open the Courts until those documents be for Warded." SOLICITOR - GENERAL—Which other of the traversers was at that meeting? Witness—The Rev. Mr. Tierney was present. In page 97 I find the speech of Mr. Tierney, delivered at that meeting of the Association. (Witness then went on to read the Rev. Gentleman's speech.) Mr. O'Connell spoke after the delivery'of the speech by the Rev. 14.1i..Tierney: 'and said the Rev. Gentleman • de served the thanks of the Association,' and that he (Mr. O'Connell heard .the speech- with pride and pleasure. The motion was 'carried by acclamation,, and Mr. Q'Con. nell_moved- that .the Association should .adjourn to the next Monday, when „he.(Mr. O'Connell) s said _he would revive a resolution of which he had formerly given notice, and that it was useless to expect any redress from the English Parliament. H e . ( Mr. _ O ' Connell ) said he-hoped the members of the Corporation who attended in their robes at Mullaghmast would meet him (Mr. O'Connell) on the following Sunday at Clo'ntarf, but at all events he (Mr. O'Connell) would be there in his robes. I attended a meeting on Monday, the 9th of October, which was held at Calvert's Theatre, in hr Aae There. be. Mr. y .were s ro t re pe r e ffe i ys . nm M ti r .m . s J rt.e o ej b l zi oeh, O'Cn nanod o vth n oen el nß l ee w l,vl a ,. s AA t Rhe Tyrrell. ep a ir rG. r. SOLICITOR-GENERAL —Oh, the Rev. Mr. Tyrrell is dead. Witness, in continuation—l see page 43, 44, and 47 of my notes, and see the resolutions. He proceeded to read them, - but was interupted by Mr. HATCHELL, who said, let him read the report of the entire meeting, if you please. SOLICITOR-GENEnAL—That would occupy a consider able portion.of the day, and at present I will only read the resolutions passed at the meeting. Mr. HOLMES—You have a right to any one particular speech, but not to the entire. . . Mr. HATCHELL—I beg your pardon. I have a right to.it all. The witness then, in accordance with the direction's of thu solicitor-General, read the speech delivered on THE , S-UN, -LONDON, JANTTAR,Y,- 1844. that occasion by the Rev. Mr. Tyrrell, and all the reso lutions passed at the meeting, which were the same as those passed at Mullaghmast. Witness—l see page 30 of my notes. SOLICITOR-GENtRAL—Do you find an entry there of anything that was said or done by Mr. Duffy at that meeting ?—Yes, he said I have to hand in money from Mr. blank, of blank parish, and blank county. I mean by blank I could not catch the name or residence of the person. SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Look at page 35, and see if Mr. Ray took any part in the proceedings at the meeting on the 3d of October ? Yes, he said it was essentially necessary that every accommodation should be afforded to the press, and the passage to their table kept free ; if the reporters were inconvenienced they cannot perform their duty, and the public will be disappointed. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL — Look at page 35, and read what Mr. O'Connell said upon that occasion? Witness read what Mr. O'Connell said; which was to the effect that the passages should be kept clear, and that Mr. Ray should have the passage clear, on account of the manifold letters. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Look at page 52, and see if any money.was handed in by Dr. Witness—Yes; I have a memorandum to that effect ; and thete were several sums handed in by him; I was never - present at any meeting of the Association when applications were made for newspapers. At this period the Court and jury retired for a few minutes, and the witness being told by Mr. Ha tchell that he might retire from the witncss-box, did so. After the lapse of about fifteen minutes, the Court again sat, and Mr. Hughes commenced reading a speech delivered on the 9th of October, by, a Mr. Green, of Liverpool, at Calvert's Theatre, Dublin. He (Mr. Green) professed to represent 400 Repealers enrolled in Liverpool. Mr: HATCTIELL, Q.C., cross-examined/the wittess on behalf of the traversers—l am - not a reporter for the public press. My business is that of a short-hand writer ; I never was connected - with a journal. I have been reporting in England, and 'from an early period of my life have been pursuing that prd!ession. I was par ticularly employed by the Government to come over to Ireland, and act according to directions, but not to report any particular meetings. I had with me a letter addressed to the,Attorney-General. I waited on him on my arrival, but he was not at home, and I was directed to Mr. Brew ster. 'this was-Saturday night, Sept. 30. The meeting - at Mullaghmast took place next day. I went there, accom , anied by an assistant in a fly-boat. I got there a b out twelve o'clock:• had no person with me but my,as sistant:from London, who was there for the purpose of transcribing my 'mites: He is not learning the business *----he is a good reporter. He might occasionally take notes, hut not :to assist me. His name is Leatham. He is now in .Ireland. We came over from and returned to England together. Leatham came over with me after my first return, at the time I was sworn before the gra nd jury. Ilealso came over -with me on the present occa sion. He came over, I suppose, to be examined. 'He ;took some notes of the proceedings, and transcribed some portions 'of them.'• No other person came over as a witness. We do not belong to Mr. Gurney's office. When we. arrived 'at Mullaghmast there, were a few on the grouna; We were there about three quarters of an hour . hefore . the arrival of Mr. O'Connell. We got on the platform., ,and had a good view of the meeting. Parties c.ame.on the ground playing music. I heard nothing about their being temperance bands, nor am I certain they-were from anything I saw. I dare say some of them were temperance bands, but cannot say. I can form no such opinion ; all I can say is that there • were bands there, and I think one or two of them had temperance incriptiOns oh them. Never attended any county meetings. I have attended public meetings at Manchester, - which are the only'meetings I had ever attended. At - that at Mhllaghmast there was a great number of women and children: _in the crowd. The movement was one of a perfectly peaceable character. Did mit perceive any proneness tb riot or disturbance. • Whenever the Queen's- name was mentioned it was received with the loudest applause. After Mr. O'Connell's arrival I heard it stated that I was on the platform as the Government reporter. On Mr. O'Connell asking whether any gentleman was pre sent.: Its 'a reporter on the, part of the Government, I stated the object of my attendance, and every possible accommodation was immediately afforded me. Ido not think Mr. O'Connell shook hands with me. I received a ticket for the banquet. - I mentioned that Mr. Letham was my assistant. A very great number of persons of respectable appearance were present at the banquet. It took place at about five o'clock, and terminated at nine. The same order and regularity was preserved at the din- ner as at the meeting. From what you know of public meetings, do you, think it necessary that persons should be appointed to preserve order?—l think that parties on the platform weuld have been much incommoded at the meeting at. gullaghmast had there not been persons present to pre vf t the people getting on. f t • s a fair man, I ask you, would you not consider it an i uential mode of procuring order, peace, and regu -1 *y, thefhaving such persons present as those whom Mr. O'Connell appointed ?—I thisik it very proper that siich persons should be present. The Queen's health viras given at the dinner, ard was received with very great applause. The health of Prince Albert was also given by the chairman, Mr. John O'Connell, and was re ceived in the same manner. Before the, loyal toasts were given, the letters apologising for non-attendance were read. Have some or them with me. Took no short-hand note of them, as documents are generally furnished to the. re porter. The next letter I have is from the Right Rev. John Cantwell, expressing his deep regret for not being - able to attend. Have not the, letter from the Eight Rev. James Keatinge. 1 was promised :espies of the letters that should be. read. When I ap plied afterwards at the office, could not get them. Was referred to the newspaper publications as authentic. Hold in my hand a Freeman's Journal of .the 2 d of October. , I . see . a letter from Dr. Keatinge. To the best of my belief, that letter was read at the, meeting. Have no note of my own of it. Have a note of Lord Ffrench's letter being read. Have a memorandum of two letters from Castle . Ffrench being read. Have also a note of a letter signed by Michael Boylan, of Hilltown-house. When I was refused copies of the letters at the office, I took them from the newspapers. There was a letter - from Sir Colman O'Loghlen read. Did not pay. much attention to the letters,: as I was pro mised copies. Have anote of a motto which was inscribed upon a banner, " That a nation of eight millions is too great to be dragged at the tail of another nation." Mr. HATCHELL—Do you not know that was taken from the Morning Chronicle ?—Oh, by no means. I did not take it from the Chronicle. Do you - ever read that paper?—l do nOt.—(Great laughter.) I suppose you only read the Standard ?—(Laughter.) —I read neither. Having to attend Committees of the House of Commons, I do not read many newspapers. Did you ever attend a trades' meeting?—No. • Were you ever a member of any institution in England for the fostering and encouraging of native manufac turesi—No. , Have you heard of the repeal cap, manufactured by Mr. White, of Thomas-street?—l have. Did you go there to fit yourself with one?—l did not. Did you ever hear what the cost of one would be ? —No. . Do you understand anything of the nature of puffing? —I do not. Don't you know the distinction between the puff direct and the•puff indirect?—No. Don't you think it would be a very good way to puff a cap or a coat to mention the name of the maker at a public meeting ?—No doubt of it.—(Laughter.) You- would have no objection to encourage native manufactures in any way you could? Not the slightest. You see . no great harm in that ?—No. • If Mr. White could have made a cap to fit you, would you have worn it?—l did not wear it. Did you handle the cap at all?-1 did not, but I ad mired it.-,;(Lnughter.) Would it. not be an excellent travelling-cap to go about within the paaket?--(Laughter.) . " - Do you not know that gentlemen who visit Paris often come back with the tricoloured Republican cap as a com fortable cap, to sleep in?—l know they bring caps home with, them sometimes. Now you, as a man of the world, did not think there was any treason in that cap ?—I formed no opinion. Were you patriotic enough to buy anything to further Irish manufactures?—l did.—(Laughter.) • I suppose you bought a tabinet for your lady ?—I did. (Great laughter.) It was a great advantage.then that you were brought so tar for the encouragement of Irish manufactures, and if you had been disengaged you would have had no ob jection to have got a lady for the tabinet 7—Probably no t.—(lmmense laughter.). . Indeed you might be worse off.—(Great laughter.) Mr. HercHELL—How long,did you remain in Ireland after the meeting at Mullaghma,4t ?• Witness—l left on the 18th of October. 1 • . • Mr. HATCHELL— Did you attend a meeting of the Re peal Association on the go of: October ? Witness—Yes, I did. There, as at all other 'meetings, I was treated with the ntinosepossible ;civility. I received' every courtesy and kindness at the Association. • Mr. HATCHELL—You only:read such extracts from Mr. O'Connell's speeches, ,if I mistake not, as the Solicitor- General requesteil you to read ? Witness —That was all. Mr: 111FCALi,- - --Then you have note's of several other expressions which fell from Mr. O'Connell; independently of the. extracts which you retnljn Court ?- Witness— Qh f _yesi : have notes of very many passages from Mr. O'Connell's . .speeChes whiCh I did not read, but I will read ahv'part you require. • Mr. kbaciaLt;--4•Look through your notes, if you please, for some remarks of Mr. O'Connell'p ,on Rib bonism at the meeting of Oct. 3 . ; they come immediately, before . a letter. from Tallow, signed by a person named , Jackson... The witness looked over his notes, but was unable to find the passage. Mr. HATcHELL--The passage I allude to came before the reading of a letter from Sharman Crawford ; t rather think you havelt not, for I believe you did not takes notes until after the reading of that letter. Witneas—The first remarks I have from Mr. O'Con nell are in allusion to a meeting in Donegal. Mr. HATCHELL—Read what Mr. O'Connell said on that subject if you please ? The witness .here read from his notes his report_of Mr. O'Connell's observations with respect to the Done gal meeting. The report of the same remarks whioh appeared in the Freeman's Journal of October 4th, was as follows :—" Mr. O'Connell said he did not know that this gentleman was not inaccurate in stating that they did not take notice of the meeting in Donegal, but in general meetings were not taken notice of except they received some letter respecting them. What could they say of the Douegal meeting but what had appeared in the newspapers, for they heard of it only through the newspapers, and the, pubhe knew of it in like manner. It was as obvious as the sun at noon day that they - must have been exceedingly gratified at that splendd meeting, and that they should feel the highest gratitude to the people of Donegal for meeting in the numbers they did, and for acting so peaceably, and returning without the slightest accusation of a breach of the peace, and all this peaceable determination - exhibited by them showed their firm resolve to join with the rest of Ireland in seeking for Repeal. He moved a vote of thanks to the persons who called and managed that meet ing, and especially the inhabitants of Innishowen, and that the letter should be inserted on the minutes. They might rely upon it that nothing would gratify them more than any Repeal meeting in the north, When it was confined within the limits of the Constitu tion-,and the more numerous they were • the more they would be gratified, provided 'they created no rancour in any party. The Donegal meeting had this advantage, that it irritated no person ; on the contrary, it rather had - the effect of soothing any bad feelings that were raised in the minds of the Orangemen : The Anti-Re pealer could not retard the question except by giving it a sectarian complexion ; and it shoald be understood that it was not a sectarian question, or a measure intended for the advantage alone of any particular persuasion, or to do mischief to the people of any :particular creed. It was intended for the good of all persons of every - creed, and would prove as advantageous to Presbyterians, to the Catholics, and to the Episcopalian Protestants, as to either. It was intended for the good of all Irishmen.:-(Cheers.) They did not mark them out in sections or divisions, and 'say some are Pro testants, or some are Catholics, or Presbyterians. They would have no sectarian distinctions ;' the only mark they recognised was the name of Irishman. Their object was to give ,Ireland to the Irish, and the man was a bitter enemy of Ireland that attempted to create any other feeling amongst them.—(Hear s hear.) They should expel from the Association any man that made use of a phrase of a bigoted nature, or one reflecting on the religious profession of any class. The great evil of Ireland was its religious distinctions, for the . tree of liberty could only flourish when it was „watered by the grace of charity. They had opened the portals of the Constitution to every class and-creed, and they should dismiss for ever from amongst them the foul fiends of religious distinction that had So lon g desolated the land.—(Cheers.)" Mr. IIaTcHELL—Go down a good way farther, if you please, and readyour report of the' remarks which fell from Mr. O'Connell in reference to a remittance from West Canada that day.. • . . .The witness read from his notes his version of the re- Marks in question. The ne*spapar report of same runs thus Mr. O'Cgnnell ithd he was delighted that their fellow-subjects in Wnada West were advancing to their assistance,- As • long as the ~Canadians kept within the limits of .the law they.found hire an ungifted but a most zealous advoCate. He acknowledged that he deserted them the moment they had recourse to violence, and vio lated his principles by breakinpainto rebellidn. At first it caused every kind of Misfortune to their native Country, but Lord Stanley, whO Seeme.d_to him to have the oddest idea of things in the: world, was now, conferring every 'kind of favour on those who survived the rebellion.. He found that .a general .amnesty had been . granted to those engaged in it— that the bills of indictment against Papineau and offier's . had heen' quashed, and• that the Attorney-General had a nolleprosequi on those indictments. A. rebellion in Ireland had been attended with the worst .consequences. He was convinced that a rehellion would ruin:lreland. There never should be a rebelliOn while he lived, but he would not carry the question of Re peal less securely on thht account. . He.would not: give one straw fur Repeal if it were not carried without the shedding of one drdp.of human blood. The people stood by him, and would obey his advice, and he never saw a readier acquiescence in it than was exhibited on the pre ceding'day at Mullaghmast. He would tell their friends iii Canada of that.meeting—the most gigantic and mag nificent assemblage that he had ever attended, with the {single exception of Tara.- Nothingeould equal thebeau tiful scene that presented - itself to the eye as they passed • up the long avenue ascending the Mount of Mullaghmast —the-countless thou Sands that lined the way—the many 'black-eyed women—aye, and the beautiful women, too , that were with their husbands, and fathers, and bro thers. They did not entertain the least idea that there would be the smallest encroachment on their delicacy, for there was not one man among the hundreds of thousands that were assembled that would not sooner have died than offend one of them.—(Cheers.) They were there perfectly safe and secure in the high-souled honour and protec tion of their countrymen—blessings on the lovely wo men of Kildare. And his (Mr. O'Connell's) police were there with their cards upon their hats, 'and signifying they had authority to keep the peace if there was an opportunity of keeping it, which there was not. No thing could be more cruel than marching the unfortu nate green-coated police to these meetings; for what were they wanted there? If any of the stipendiary ma gistrates came to hiin he would tell him off as many 'men as would be sufficient to keep the peace.—(Cheers.) They might keep the police at home, and not have them wearing their shoes traversing the country in cold wea ther.--a(Laughter.) There were two things in the con duct of Sir Henry Hardinge and the Government that he cor4lained of, and this was marching about the police in this way (they had given up the practice of harassing the army, and he was glad of it), and having in fortifying Athlone cut down • two beautiful trees near its walls to make the fortifications more secure. A tree was a public loss to that country. He loved a fine old tree; nature never produced anything more delightful to the eye than the waving branches of an aged tree .that was still green and in vigour. He would forgive, •Sir. Henry 'Hardinge anything but that. To ,come back to Canada next,- was it not delightful to them to have their brothel . Irishmen chirping to them from such a-alistance ;. but he begged of them, as he did of Mr, O'Ferrall, not to abuse the Orangemen so much, and in use civil language to them. It was quite manifest they were not afraid of the Orange men ; and why, then, should they scold them ? for persons only had recourse to scolding when they were afraid.' He. heartily thanked their friends in Canada, but he was, glad that they had got over their rebellion, and that Vieir country was near a free coun try, and had a Parliament . freely elected. The English Government had the good sense to let the Canadians govern Canada. All offices were filled by Cana dians, or were being filled by them, and no man got into o ffi c e who did not concur in opinion with the majority of the Parliament. It showed how wise it was to give every dependency in England the power of self-govern ment, with a local Government; for Canada was now declared by the Ministry themselves to be, for the first time, in a state of unbroken quiet, except where it was interrupted by the decaying Orange faction. It was now settling down in security and quiet. How little did they know' the Irish people, to make any distinction be tween the two countries. If they had a mind to strengthen the empire—make it invincible against the world, and make the throne stable and secure for ever, they would' make no distinction between them. He moved that the letter and lists of names be inserted on the minutes—that the persons'named be enrolled as as sodiatei andinernbers,. according to the amount :of' their subscriptions; and that Mr. Ray be directed to convey the most respectful thanks of the AssociatiOn io the gen tlemen individually. and generally, who- had subsCribed." Now, Mr..Hughes ,.w ill you be good enough tp refer to the report of the meetingatt the theatre in Abbey:street, and turn to' Mr. O'Connell's speech there—but that re minds me to ask you a question that I intended awhile a go. You said that Mr. O'Connell was dressed in crimson or scarlet at Mullaghmast ?—Yes, he had a robe on; Wasn't that the robe usually worn by the Lord Mayor of Dublin? — And • - were there not several other aldermen and•town councillors there wearing those robes?—Yes. at the theatre in reply to the ß a e d a d d ie M ss r.enn o(rth°eßeler s speech Repeaters of Manchester.—The wit ness read the rep l y , as previously published in the report of the proceedings at the meeting. • After reading the resolutions which were read by the Crown, will you read Mr.O'Connell's speech. at that same meeting in Abbey-street2—Wit ri ess here read the speech at leng th, froth his ow n notes, • Mr. HATcriELL—Were you' in Dublin any time after the Clontarf meeting 2—l was, for four or five days. • Mr. HATCHELL—Perhaps you were there ?—Yes, I was there.. • • - Mr. HATeHELL-L-What were the directions you re ceived with the attendance at these meetings ; were you to attend all the meetings 2—l was to attend 'the meet ings at the Corn Exehange andthe . monster meetings. Mr. llATcriELL—Were you , kware of the proclamation being issued to supi3ros the r e tbatarf meeting?—Yes, I was aware of it: Mr. HATcHELL—Did you receive any orders to attend tbere?—l.received no .particular orders to attend, I,went from curiosity, Mr. HATcHELL--Did you report what occurred there? —No, I had nothing to report, I saw nothing there but troops. • Mr. HA.Teutu.—Do you recollect anything occurring at a.meeting o f th e A sso ciation, previOus to the Clontarf - meeting, whilst discussing. the preparations for that , meeting ?—.N o . ave you any that Mr. O'Connell mentioned an H application f rom some Protestant clergym en in res p ect to ' the propriety of conducting the procession so as not to interrupt Divine service ?—I do not think I have any such note. • tn to the m Mr. HaTcriELL—l believe that t ook p lace at the n ag g, , you asked or he would - give . cor poration was not at the corp oration. Mr. HATCHELL—You stated that when you came up n Dublin, Mr. Ray Tor some documents rela tive to that , meetin g . , after the ui m ia e g e i t l i ra ng as a t t meeting, M ee u t ll i hmast What did Mr. Ray say to you 2—He said he was not the secretary 'them. . Mr. HATenELL—Yon have - stat ed the names of several persons who attended a t, the adj ourned meeting at the Corn Exchange.: Have you not proved a speech as de livered by Mr. Steele there 2—l have. • Mr. Hatchell :concluded his cr oss-examination, and it was resumed by Mr. Moore, Q.C., for another of the traversers. Cross-examined by. Mr. MoonE—Direct your atten tion to the meeting at the Corn Exchange, on the 3d of October. Did you see Mr. Ty.rrell there?—l did. Mr. MooßE—Were you acquainted with his, person before that?—i never saw him before that day. MootiEWlint time did you enter the meeting?— I. went there - about twelve o'clock, and remained till half pdst four or five. Mr. MOORE — Was it a very considerable meetine— No, it was not; the place was not very large. Mr. DlooßE—Well, was not the meeting fully at tended?—There were 300 o r 400 persons present. Mr. MooßE—Were there many speeches delivered ? —Not a great number. Mr. MoonE—Did not several persons speak there that day, who are not now on their trial ?—Yes ; I believe there were speeches made there by persons who are not now on trial. . Mr. Moore concluded his croEs.examina.tion, and Mr. M‘Donotigh resumed it on behalf of Mr. Barrett. 1 Mr. DlToNouou—lnform the Court and jury what was the toast Mr. Barrett spoko to at the Mullaghmast dinner. The witness hesitated for a:short time, and then re plied, " The People." Mr. M‘DoNotiGH—Look to your note of the meeting held on the 9th of Oetobor in Abbey-street. Witness—l have got it. Mr. APDoNouGH—Enumerate the names of the tra versers who were present at that meeting ?—John O'Con nell, D. O'Connell, Mr. Steele, the Rev. Mr. Tyrrell, Dr. Gray, Mr. Deify, and Mr. Ray. _ _ _ Mr. M‘DoNoircx—You have not named Mr. Barrett —was he there ?—I made a mistake about him on a former occasion—he was not present. Mr. M'DoNouGn—Then, I presume, he did not speak here ?-11e did not. Mr. Nl'DoNouGH—When you were under examination by the Solicitor-Gerieral he asked you nothing about the dinner at the Rotunda— was Mr. Barrett there 7—Mr. Barrett was not there either. I mistook some one else fOr him. I think you stated you took the earliest opportunity of correcting your mistake ?—I did. Where was it?—At the house of Judge Burton. Were you at the house of Judge Burton at the time :he recognisance was entered into, and did you then swear your informations?—l saw Mr. Barrett there. I did not swear my information on that but on a prior oc casion. I swore an affidavit that day ; it was an amended affidavit. Do I understand you to say you amended the mis take with reference to Mr. Barrett by affidavit ?—I did not. Were you present on the occasion when the recog nizance to bail was subscribed by Mr. Barrett ?—Yes, I then mended the mistake. I mentioned it to Mr. Ray and Mr. Kemmis. Were they attending for the Crown ?—Mr. Ray is clerk to Mr. Kemaas. Did you apprise them of the mistake with respect to Mr. Barrett ?—I mentioned to • them I had a doubt about having been correct in stating Mr. Barrett was at the meeting. Where was this ? On leaving Judge Burton's house. What did Mr. Kemmis say ?—I can't recollect what Mr. Kemmis said. When was this ?—ln Kildare-street. Before you reached Mr. Kevamis' house ?—Yes. . On the way can you not recollect what Mr. Kemmis iaid ?---He made no observation, Then it was left as it was ?—I mentioned it to Mr. Ray before 'caving Judge Burton's house. Whcn leaving the room, in the passage, was Mr. Bar rett then-in the house ?—He was. What did you say ?—"I was mistake* i,n regard to Rotunda, Mr. Barrett ; I had doubt that he was at the or at the meeting at Calvert's theatre." What did Mr. Ray say ?—I do not recollect what he said. • Did you return to have the error corrected ?—I did not take any steps further ; I thought it enough to in form them of it. Then it was the mistake as to Mr. Tierney that was Corrected by affidavit ?—Yes. I did not correct the mis take as to Mr. Barrett ; merely mentioned it. • Did you make that affidavit on the same day with your original depositions?—No; I corrected the mistake as to Mr. Tierney the day the parties attended at the house*of Judge Burton. Then you called attention to the mistake with respect to Mr. Barrett ? On that occasion. Cross-examine] by Mr. WIIITESIDE, Q.C., on the part of Mr. Duffy—When did you -see. the traverser, Mr. Duffy?—l saw him at the meeting at Calvert's Theatre. Did he speak there?—He did. Was it there he made the eloquent speech, " I beg to hand in• pounds for ?"—(Laughter.)—He handed in some money. • Had you a distant view of the.meeting?—The place was dusky. • • . _ A dark, dusky affair—perhaps, now, you could not see the platform ?—I saw Mr. Duffy. You reported fully and faithfully the meeting at Mul- laghmast ?—I did, to the best of my skill and ability. Now, you have seen large meetings before ?—I have. Do you remember the immense meeting whiCh took place some years ago in London—l allude to that at which Dr. Wade attended in his robes, and a small body of 150,000 people paid a morning visit to Lord Mel bourne ?—I was in Parliament-street, and saw Dr. Wade in his robes. I should say there was more than 100,000, perhaps 200,000. Then they really do great things in England as well as poor Ireland?—l never saw so large a body of men as was assembled on that occasion. Do you attend the debates intheflouse Of gommons? —Sometimes. Now, whether were the Irish or English Intiltitudes best behaved—there was no Crushing, - youltnp,w?,,,—The people were exceedingly weli behaved ret Mullagghast. In the House of Commons there are is .number 'of ill mannered gentlemen, who 'keep' bad hdurs Loud laughter) —now, as I know you- are a man .of candour, don't you give the preference fOr propriety of behaviour to the Irish people?—They Were very well-behaved when I saw them. Who did you get the letter of introduction to the At torney-General from ?—Mr. Gurney. What is, the date of the meeting at Calvert's? I think 3d October—l thought it was the 9th. Re-examined by the SOLICITOR-GENERAL—I saw Mr. Ray.•at the meeting and asked him for the documents. He said he was not the secretary of the meeting. I ap plied to him in his character of secretary to the Repeal Association. He said be was not the secretary of the Mullaghmast meeting. I saw Mr. Barrett at the Mul laghmast meeting. I saw him afterwards when I went to Judge Burton's to swear my amended affidavit with respect to the Christian name of the Rev. Mr. Tierney. I did not expect to see Mr. Barrett there. I knew him to be the person I saw at Mullaghmast. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Road the address to which the speech of Mr. O'Connell at Calvert's theatre, on the 'sth, was an answer. Mr. HATCHELL objected, and submitted that the Crown had no right to go back to the meetings again. Hit was necessary, it ought to have been produced on the direct examination. The CHIEF JUSTICE said he did not see any objection to the Solicitor-General reading the address in answer to the speech. The witness then proceeded to read the address of the members and wardens of the Repeal Association of Manchester to Mr. O'Connell, presented on the 9th of October. After the reading of the address was concluded, the witness was permitted to retire—his examination having occupied the Court from its sitting to half-past four. Fleming Mathias Leathern examined by Mr. BENNET, Q.C.—I know the gentleman who gave evidence last. I came•over to Ireland with him for the purpose of being his assistant. I was present at the meeting at Mallagh mast. I have been engaged in taking notes for the last ten years. I transcribed Hughes' notes from his dic tation ; that was a very long time after the meeting at Mullaghmast. Hughes took the notes in short hand, and read them to me, and I transcribed them in long hand, I 'know Mr. O'Connell. I have seen him in London. I took notes at the meeting for my own amusement, but not full notes ; my sole object was to assist Mr. Hughes ; he is a particular friend of mine, and I wished to come over to Ireland and see the country. I copied some resolutions at the banquet, which were thrown upon the table, to the best of my belief, by Mr. Ray, but I am not certain that it was by Mr. Ray. I attended a meeting of the Association on the Monday fol lowing the Mullaghmast meeting ; that was on Oct. 2. I•he witness went on to detail that he had transcribed the notes of Hughes into long-hand. On his cross-examina tion he was asked by one of the traverser's counsel if the resolutions published in the papers were not similar to thoe which he had copied fbr Hughes? but the At torney-General refused to let him answer the question, observing that counsel oh the opposite side might identify the - papers in which they were published, and put them in evidence if they chose. Mr. Frrzclnnort observed it would be long enough without adopting such a course, and would, therefore, withdraw the question. Charles Ross then appeared on the table, and, having been sworn, was examined by Sergeant WARREN—He stated that he was a native of England, resided in Lon don, and was a newspaper reporter. Is a short-hand writer, and has been so for upwards of twenty-ye us. Came to this country at the end of August last. Was in this country before.. The first time became here was on July the 4th.. He was not certain ; it might have been June ; at all events, it was the night before the Don nybrook meeting. On referring to his, notes it was on the 4th orJuly that he came here ; it was suggested to him to 'conie over here ; the Suggestion was made on the part of 'the' Goiernment ; ,witness took notes of Mr. (Non speech at Donnybrook ; has not got that note ; recollects to have had it about a fortnight afterwards ; took a transcript of the original note. Sergeant WARREN (in continuation)—What became of the original note ? Witness—l carried it with me to London, and kept it in a drawer. About a fortnight after I recollect having taken it out, and placed it along with some other papers, and I fancy that one of my children --(Laughter)—who had access to the drawer, destroyed it, but what became of it I have never been able to dis cover, though I have searched for it diligently. The transcript which I took was very correct. Sergeant WARREN—HOW soon did . you take a tran script of the note? Witness—Next clay, . Attended the meeting of Donnybrook. Had a connexion withi•a news paper at the time. I wish to state that fact, as there were some observations made Concerning me which I did not then, notice, be . cause I wished to reserve myself for this occasion. • Sergeant WARREN—You were quite right. You have a copy of the speech of Mr. O'Connell at the meeting at Donnybrook?—l have. Sergeant WARREN—Read it, if you please. (The witness then commenced reading the speech of Mr. O'Connell :—".What a glorious sight is here ! I have seen many mighty assemblies, but never such a one as this. It is impossible for me to have more power, for I have enough," &c. The witness still continued to read Mr. O'Connell's speech at the Donnybrook meeting, those parts exciting great merriment in the Court which referred to the cheapness of tea, sugar, and tobacco, and the hilarity it would produce among the families of the poor. Sergeant WARREN, to witness—Have you formed any opinion as to the numbers present at the meeting ?—I estimated the numbers at about 40,000. Sergeant WARREN—Where were you placed ?—On the scaffold.—(Universal laughter.) I mean I was on the platform. The people came in procession with the band. A great number of flags were exhibited. I saw Mr. O'Connell as he approached. There was great con fusion at the time. I cannot recollect how long the people remained on the grounds—it might be two hours. I remained in Ireland the next day, and returned again at the end of August last. I saw Mr. John O'Connell at the meeting, but do not recollect seeing any other of the traversers. I attended no meeting of the Associa tion in July, but did shortly after my return on the 28th of August. Ido not recollect who was in the chair, as the Chairman was appointed before I got in. Mr. J. O'Connell was there. I saw Mr. O'Connell, Mr. J. O'COnnell, Mr. Steele, and Dr. Gray there every day. I saw Mr. Ray there on two or three occasions. I took notes of what was said. I got some papers from Mr. Ray. Mr. Sergeant Warren then handed the witness a pa per, which he identified as being handed to him by Mr. Ray. The witness then handed in the documents, and also others having reference to the Arbitration Cotirts. He received all-these documents from Mr. Ray. -He was at a meeting of the Repeal Association on the 4th of Sep tember. On the 13th of September, I gat a document from one of the clerks of the Association. Mr. Ray told me to go to a particular room to g•t it. The document was "The Address to the . .People'of the United Empire." ' The CHIEF JUSTICE sap it was now near half-past five o'clock. and probably the Court had better adjourn. Mr. Sergeant Warren assented, and the Court rose at half-past five o'clock. IMPORTANT LIBERAL MEETING. (From the Dublin Monitor of Thursda3.) A most important meeting—indeed it is•impOssible ta overrate its irnpor,ance—was held this day at the resi dence of the Earl of Charlemont,- Rutland square. The object of the meeting—which has been contem plated for some time—was to consider the course must judicious to be adopted in - the present state of Ireland. There were upwards of fifty Liberal noblemen and gentlemen present, among whom we may mention the following ' . Duke of Leinster; . Marquis Clanricarde,-.Marquis of Kildare, Earl of Charlemont, Earl of Leitrim, Earl of Meath,'Earl of Miltown, Viscount Acheson, Lord Stuart De Decies, Sir Thomas Esmonde. Sir Percy Nugent, Sir John Burke, Sir Valentine Blake, Sir John Power, Dublin ; James Power, Esq., M.P. ; Robert Archbold, Esq , M. P. ; Mathew Corbally, Esq., M. P. ; Thomas \Vyae, Esq., M.P. ; Right Honourable A. R. Blake.; George Roe, Esq. ; Thomas Hutton, Esq. ; William Murphy, Esq. ; Peter Purcell, Esq. ; Shafto Adair, Esq.; James. O'Brien, Esq, ;,lion. Charles French ; Stephen Diekson, Esq.; Leland Crosthwaite, Esq.; Joseph. Stick, Fsq., 111.1):; JOhn'll. Talbot, Esq.; Ron. ColonelSouthwt:ll; Marmaduke C. Roberts, Hun. Frederick Ponsonby, = After an animated conversation, it was finally resolved that a petition to both- p [uses . of Parliament should be prepared, setting forth the adMitted leading grievances Of the country, among which we may mention the state Of the representation, the acknoWledged abuses of the Church Establishment,, •' the ,oppressive and -unequal amount of taxation to whiCh this country is subject. -A petition embodying the above views having . been prepared, was Unanirnously adopted by the meeting, and was entrusted to the Marquis or Clanricarde for pre sentation in the Lords, and to Mr. Thomas Wyse, M.P., for presentation in. the House of Commons. It was furthermore resolved' that this petition should forth the groundwork of a substantive motion in both houses, and after motion of thanks having been passed unanimously to the Duke of Leinster, and to the . Earl of Chariemont,the.meeting separated. This meeting, we are certain, will produce the most benefiCial effects. We know that the Liberal party in Ireland are not scattered -beyond the power of rallying effectually when the voice of - Charlemont calls for union and action. In seasons of anxiety and' peril' like the -present the true patriot is tested, and when was a Charlernont tried and found wanting ? We trust that out of 'this meeting a new union of parties will result—that the good of Ireland will be the sole object sought to be attained by political combination, and that the welfare of our people—the promotion of industry = the inculcation of peaceable and orderly habits—the re dress of admitted grievances —and, in fact, the improve ment of the moral and material condition of Ireland, may prove-distinguishing characteristics of the wise and enlightened policy which, as applicable to the govern ment of Ireland, we may date from the meeting to-day at Charlemont-house. MR. MORE O'FERRALL, M.P. We have been requested to publish the following letter:— Tonbridge Wells, Jan. 14,1843. My dear Sheil,—l will feel obliged by your attaching my name to the petition to her Majesty, agreed to at the meeting held in Dublin on the 13th inst. I regret that the short notice of the intended meeting prevented my being present, to express my indignation and disgust at the pro ceedings of the law officers of the Crown, acting under the direction of her Majesty's advisers. What are we to expect from their assumption, that twelve honest men are incompetent to try an issue by reason of their religious opinions upon a public investigation in a court of jus tice, as to whether illegal acts have been committed in proceedings taken to obtain the repeal of an Act of Par liament? Ido not doubt that a Protestant jury will do justice, but I protest against the insulting insinuation that a jury of Catholics would not. We owe it to her Majesty and ourselves, to oppose a system of which this is only the first step, tending to in fuse the worst spirit of the penal code into the adminis tration of the law, and to throw distrust and discredit on institutions, which are the best guarantee for the se curity of the Crown, and the liberty of the subject. Very faithfully yours, MORE O'FERR ALL. —Dublin Monitor. STATE OF TRADE. The cotton market has this week attracted the attention of all parties, and considering that this town owes its rapid extension mainly to the astonish ing increase of the cotton trade, it is not surprising that, when such excitement prevails amongst the brokers, the public in general look on and take lively interest in the matter. Such has been the case this week, and various indeed are the opinions enter tained with regard to the immense speculative opera tions that have been engaged in. The result of the manufacturing business last year proved that the consumption of raw cotton had largely increased; but then low prices, lower indeed than were ever known before, fostered this branch of trade ; and even now there are good grounds for believing that the advance of the last few weeks is diminishing the demand from spinners, whose profits do not keep pace with the prices of the raw article in Liverpool. It is well known that the market here is now in a great mea sure under the influence of the American shippers, who, being assisted by the southern banks, are not satisfied with raising the prices in the States to such a pitch that places all the important English orders quite out of the market, but they go further, as it is known that the last steamer brought instructions to buy largely in this market for American account, and many of the recent purchases are believed to have been en tered into under these instructions. It then remains only for the manufacturers, knowing the dangerous ground on which they stand, to act with firmness and caution, and not by any acts of theirs to assist the projects of those whose interests are directly op posed to the low prices which the spinner looks to for stimulating the consumption. The last accounts offer no data on which to found an opinion of a crop lOU than two millions of bales ; the receipts into the ports fully confirm this estimate; yet we find that opera tions, amounting to 70,000 bags, have been entered into within the last five days, chiefly on speculation, and at an advance of fully id. per lb. It remains to be seen whether this animation will continue ; it cer tainly would not if the market were left to its usual course. - The export business is good for the season, and prospects are cheering, but many prudent merchants begin to doubt the full realisation of those very san guine opinions which were so generally expressed at the close of last year. Although the shipments of all goods are on a large scale, the profits on invoices are thus far but small, much less indeed than exporters have usually enjoyed in good times. The country , trade is improving gradually, and an increase is per ceptible in the amount of goods of all descriptions forwarded into the interior.—Liverpool Mercury. ADVENTURE AT A MASKED BALL.—But now for the joke. You know that K-- likes well enough to relieve the monotonous routine of her arduous duties with a little frolic when chance favours her. And an occasion occurred lately. You know, at this lively epoch, all Paris is turned into a ball-room, and masks and revels are high in the ascend ant. For myself, I got so - zrfiuch of this sort of thing in the way of busineis, that I condered it a treat to escape such dis tractions. I never saw but one masked ball, and that offended me in so many respects, whilst I admit that it was the gayest thing my eye ever dwelt upon, that I never desired to see another. K--, however, must needs go to one of these masked balls; and an acquaintance of mine, Mademoiselle de was to accompany her, to be en lightened, under her sage guardianship, in all the mysteries of a grand opera ball. K- astonished me by a flight of fancy uncommon in her; she declared she would go in no other way but as my double. - She insisted upon wearing the Cracovian costume. Bien, ma , there, if you will risk it, comme t o _ . voudrais, but I repeat my warnings ; and I have my mis givings of the result.". With the thoughtless glee of a child, she dressed herself; a' Cracovienne ; red boots, blue skirt, White jacket, and velvet cap. There she stood, arrayed in all the panoply of the capering Bohemian. My carriage set them 'safely down a 1' Opera, and they soon found themselves ,threading its brilliant labyrinths, thronged to suffocation almost, by its merry mobs of blithesome revellers. The . masqued " Cracovienne" assailed her numerous acquaintances, and perplexed their lives nut of them ; right and left she distributed her lively raillerie. M. Duponchell declared she could be no other than Mile. Fanny ; and he said what made him quite sure was, the little feather in the cap was fastened in by a pin he knew I wore. The game was up, and the news soon spread; the curious crowd rapidly gathered; and as, pro bably, it was the first time that some hundreds had ever met the supposed one, they thought it a good occasion to exchange a remat k or two, with all the innocent freedom that a masque ball sanctions. But another and most unexpected attack await ed her ; she was suddenly accosted by a pink domino, who in good round terms told her she was no better than an arrant thief, to come as she had done that very day, and swindle her out of the costume she had then on ; that she did not choose to waste words on such a baggage; and that she must either take off instanter the costume, or pay for it, else •he would hand her to the police. K-- saw all argument was vain ; and if she had had the eloquence of a Berryer, she was too much frightened to give utterance to it. So she took the course that it would be wise if all women did when they get into dilemmas—to run for it. She scampered as though for life across the vast area of the opera house, down the grand flight, spreading havoc among the gay flower-pots, and out into the cold streets but her relentless pursuer followed her close, and pressed hard upon her, aided at last by the impos ing arm of the law in the shape of a policeman. ♦way they went, helter skelter, till K— shot into the ports coder e of her own house, and left the hounds at bay. She came fly ing breathless into my bed-room, at three in the morning, her hair dishevelled, and her eyes looking wild. This little event has led to all sorts of speculations, and my declaring positively that I was not the heroine of this droll vaudeville has only thickened the general confusion.—Fanny Ellsler's Sayings and .Doings. LITERATURE. CHRONICLES OF GRETNA GREEN. 2 Ws Bentley, London, 1844. The title of this work will be pretty sure to recom mend it to the favourable consideration of our readers , —especially those oithe - iciTseX - --To;WITO is there that does not feel an interest in Gretna Green —tile celebrated scene of so many run-away marriages, where Lord Erskine figured in the disguise of an old woman; where the young and briefless John Scott, afterwards the wealthy Earl of Eldon, received the hand of a lady, against whose father he subsequently , in his capacity as Lord Chancellor, signed an act of bankruptcy; and where, at a more recent period, Mr. Edward Gibbon Wakefield laid the foundation of a three years' imprisonment within the veryunsentimen t4 walls of .Nevvgate ? The volumes before us give '" historical account of this celebrated border locality, from the earliest times down to the present day ; an d. the " materials and anecdotes"—observes the a uthor , .•in his preface—" were collected in the parish of Gretna Green itself; and that, too, from such source' as - may be held 'worthy of credit." Much of ti' d early history of the place is, of course, intimately connected with the border skirmishes between Eub land and Scotland, wnich continued with more or les 4 violence for so many ages; and, accordingly, we I "i ve many quaint and singular anecdotes respecting these conflicts, and those who took part in them, which serve to relieve and enliven what otherwise wou“ 1 have been a mere dry detail of facts. In the coupe of his historical investigations the author devotes a chapter to what he calls the " Raid of Solo ay Moss,"—the term applied to a celebrated conflict that took place, in the middle of the sixteenth century, between the Scotch and English borderers; a nd In, -another chapter he sketches the rise and progress ( a the "Loves of Mary and Bothwell," which, however, are far too .yell known to stand in need of repetitio u • The volumes are amusing enough, though the ir interest is not a little diminished by the quan' t7 rugged, and frequently careless and flippant manner in which they are written. The author's serious moods are decidedly his best; when he attempts tl be facetious, he fails as signally as an elephant woul d fad- who should undertake , to dance a gallopade. T h e . subjoined passage is a fair specimen o f hi s s tyle ; t commences a chapter, entitled a " Visit to the Gretna Priest" : " Simon Laing, ' weaver and priest,' son and heir, and SQ forth, to the most notable David the pedlar, i 6 personage f much, nd most espt cil respect a person age whose o interest a is great, whose a power is , confessed , whose influence is extensive, whose friendship i_s worth obtaining, whose reputation is unbounded, &c. In hie custody are the most important volumes of marriage register, come down to him through a long succession. • and by him hereafter to be transmitted to the latest Pis' terity. This register descended to its present possess ` from his father, who received it we know not whence. I probably originated in him, when the plan of monor; lising the trade began to be systematically establisheui It has been the policy at Gretna Green, for the princir marrier to associate unto himself some partner in th e business; thus, old Paisley took into his co nfidenc e , David Laing, and when , Paisley died, David connec ted his son Simon with him as his partner; furthermo re ' when the' Angel of Death breathed upon David, and Sim° was left alone, he, the said Simon, became associated il l partnership with one Robert Elliott,of honourable rniontie n ; Now, this apostolic s ucces sion is not thus scrupulous l y maintained without good reason, that is, in so far as th. e Y themselves are concerned ; and, indeed; it was the dig" covery of certain advantages to be derived therefronif that at first established this consecutive dove -tailing , r, this concatenation—of priests. In the first place , enables them, by the extreme exclusiveness of the ir body, to secure to themselves the whole of the traffic' and, above all, the emoluments arising therefrom ; in th e second place, it gives vast importance, considerati on, and notability to him that thus holds " the keys ;" an d, in the third, this concatenation tends to prevent the les!' dispersion, or injury of the sacred books, so reverent ly looked upon and so carefully guarded. In these volume s are entered the names of all those whom the guardi ol priest has united in holy hands ; and the custody of thef e gives to their possessor his chief ability to continue 0 1 ,, prevailing system of monopoly. Their importa n ce therefore, is manifest. Hence, that they may not Pr n into the hands of strangers, the necessity of partnersoir is acknowledged, so that, when the principal dies, tile other being heir by devise, succeeds to the mheritari ce. By looking well to these things; they engross much O ra ; merce and much lucre to' themselves, of course not little to the envy and prejudice of their neighbours in the parish, whom thtidestinies have made less fortunate. INSTITUTION OE CIVIL ENGI' NEERS. The annual general meeting of the Institution was held on Tuesday evening, when the usual report of th Council was read. It appeared that the progreag of the Society was satisfactory, and the incr ease of members was equal to that of preceding Yea! but the amount of arrears of subscription was larg er ' The members were pressed to transmit pigoi; for reading, for, as was justly stated, scientific sociall e • can only be supported by useful and interesting COol' municattons, and by raising such discussions upon the° as are the distinguishing features of the meetings of g hr Society of Engineers. Memoirs of Professor Wallace, of Edinburgh ; of rti. Buddle, of Newcastle, and of several other decease members, were read. F N igr ' • Telford medals were presented to Messrs • ns ' ru Simms, W. Pole, and T. Oldham, for eomuniesti°,.; presented by them to the Institution. Telford all:). Walker premiums of books were also prese nted, to Mesers. D. Mackain, D. Bremner, D. S. Hope, IL 3441 „., ° - W. J. M. Rankine, W. L. Baker, S. C. - Ii J. O. York, G. D. Bishopp, and G. B. W. Jackson, ' d their papers and drawings, which had been read a n exhibited at the meetings during the past session. , Mr..J. WALKER, the President, addr esse d the rneetlfl.o upon the internal management , of the Society , 111° er‘ election of his Royal Hi g h ness Prince A.lb as an honorary member, the valuable additi Qu to the library presented by the Duke of Dui clench, the course of study and practice most bennfiZi for young engineers, and the opportunity affor; re by the institution for coming advantageously be the world; he then, among other novel subjects en netted with engineering, spoke of having lately vier t+ the atmospheric railway near Dublin, and said tbliri,e without prognosticating as to the future, the exP e o ments he witnessed appeared more promising than th ey with locomotive engines at a corresponding el l i f s period of their introduction upon railways. „f then gave a short notice of the connection -0. Col. Stoddart with the institution, as its Honorary Se c t i ;,. tary in the years 1834-5, alluding to the exertions n__ making by a committee of gentlemen, under the trrill. tion of Captain Grover, fur ascertaining the fate, ful i , ° ' „ I t possible, of obtaining the release of Colonel StOlu t ' to and Captain .Conolly, who, there was every reason v believe, were really still alive, although detained in of captivity. .. In confirmation of. this, Lieut.-Colonel Humfrey st gg , that Captain Grover had been informed by Lord Abernen, that authentic intelligence had been received from c ° o stantinople, and from the-British Consul at Tresibeno, the effect that some pilgrims recently arrived direct fr° l , Bokhara had seen both Col. Stoddart and Capt. Coa oi e r alive and at liberty, although strictly watched; that were both employed in the military service of the Itol e e ` t ,.. and that evidently th e y, were r es t ra i ne d by some pow . o n ful reason, from attempting to make their situatto known, as it was not probable otherwise that two offlae of such merit should_ allow themselves to be rer -1-° I. ! • dead, and their names to be s tr uc k o ff th e Army -„tig The favourable reception of Mr. Woolf a t the for .. . A . ' places he had hitherto passed th roug h was not i ce d, 11 ," - „al spirited subscription to the St o dd art an d C ono lly h p was immediately commenced among the members a hg Institution, who all appe are d anx i ous to a id in h t j, restoration to hii native co untr y o f a gen tl eman OW '- whilst connected with them, gained so many friends' fl- The ballot for the Council took pl a ce, when thet,:ter, lowing gentlemen were elected :—Messrs. J. NV 6 lrit. President ; W. Cubitt, B. ."" Donkin, J. Field, and Palmer, Vice-Presidents ; H. 'l'. Clark, F. Gi.., les „' n ie f 1 " 2 Lowe. J. Miller, W. C. Myhre, J. M. Rendel, G. ',"„ n " R. Sibley, J. Simpson, J. Taylor, F. B ra ithwaite' , W. Cubitt, other members and associates of Council', t he The following papers were anno unce d t o b e re ad next meeting, on the 6th of February, until which ' l the meeting adjourned : No. 582. "Descripti on o f a W ater Wh ee l , c onstruc t ei by W. Fairbairn, E sq ., an d erecte d i n Lom b ar dy - S. B. Moody, Assoc. Inst. C.E. No. 586. " Des cr ip t i on o f a new Ch a i n -b uc ket Wv atcr' wheel ;" by J. Wight. No. 588. " Description of Whitelaw 's noris° lits Water Wheel ;" by J. Whitelaw. No. 613. " D escr ip t i on o f a W a t er M e t e r ;'' by Carmichael. . A deputation of licensed proprietors of h ile m ber , carriages,. consisting of Mr. Thompson, .Mr. Ft l : ',"" ne st, Mr. Bell, Mr. Powell; solicitor, and - Mr J. 0. P h liith their secretary, had a long interview yesterdsf 'Mr. Manners Sutton at tne Home-office. it.l RUMOURED RENEWAL OP THE BANK ClL.— yr - „ S oto Bank Stock continues to rise, being up Ito 1 P er coa" and we may 'Mention as a " great secret," that it ' fi ne voi fidently believed the Corporation will obtain a -16-bate of its Charter, and that the present MinistrY era or, already intimated to the .Governor and Deputy o ,.. °v „vera.: - at a recent interview, that it is the intention of y men t to support the claim for it.• The quid pro 7 f th e our information be' correct, will be the assistance:wit Bank in any conversion plan, by a large advance: d oor the demands of those who may dissent from a r e ve r, to 'of the interest mi n their Stock. The matter, h ( o ve ft•e re e ' kept so close, that very few are aware of the terms l o pe ENii an t remarkably dense . fog e nve of the town d' neighbotirhocd in darkness that .toig ht liter The Derbt: pig felt, in the afternoon and night of Monday lart. which leaves Nottingham at half-past eight; or a que rter n SO da in the evening, was upiet whilst going dovin the Le the bel e ?. The coachman, a very careful driver, was unable to lee re•- .A_ " of his horses, and kept so much on the left side of the paree:ie• Na run the coach into the deep h o ll ow adjoining mr. breaking the springs and other parts of the coach The ind, pee iolfsr sengers, the Dean of Lincoln, Mr. Richard Enfield, end , e st tunately escaped unhurt ; but one of throe outside paeser4;o:sio.- Dixon, of Stanleford, was mush bruised, and taken UP tp ov He was conveyed to Nottinghain, and his friends ele' e ne st dam' fetch him, but he was unable to bear a removal till the prod', I The coachman was also slightly bruised. The coach weetoople"' home in a very ahattertd condition, and the mail bilge to Derby by the railway.—Nortingharn Review. ot n Ce r BRITISH TRADE WITH CHINA.--A GOVe rn ro „ abtP s titleation, containing rules to be observed in dravvickilbotail, raanifests to be presented at the British Consulate latortbe•pir and the other ports; has been forwarded to LloycelL l ,4 Ch mid of merchants, captains, and others is the trams .9gt.