The Sun. — London, England, 1839-11-27 00:00:00

EVENING EDITION. tion which I could not but deem to be not a little shock ing to the feelings of ordinary men. The inference of which your Lordship speaks is one ":hick t e.cr entered into my thoughts. In truth I co, ld not, in my waking hours, have ascribed to your I. rdshl i s the folly of being " desirous" of effecting so very ' hp es an object as "to impress on the House of Lords, tha-. rt ligious instruction WAS not of paramount import ance to every other in general education." What I really said was, that you had avowed the proposition which I have quoted above. Your Lordship can hardly fail to per cei .e, that to avow an obnoxious sentiment, entertained by yourself; is a very different thing from being desirous to impress it upon others. Such an avowal is often in life under the ingenuous impulse of the moment, and is the frankness of free discussion, when the speaker v:m.lil not have the hardihood to attempt, nor even to wish, to impress the sentiment on hid hearers. Now, this is all that I said or thought of your Lordship on thi' occasion. Your Lordship further says, that if I had " adverted to your having previously stated, in the printed corre spondence then under discussion, that a system of reli g Wag instruction forms the most solid foundation on hich public education can be placed, it would have l een impossible," &c. My Eord, it is true that I did not advert to that correspondence, nor should I have thought it necessary ' to advert to it, even if it had been, as your Lordship states, " then under discusson." But I cannot suffi ciently express my astonishment that your Lordship has made such a statement. Has it escaped your recollec tion, that in the very speech from which I quote, you \ had protested against bringing that correspondence then under discussion—that you had yourself demanded that the discussion should be confined to the Minute of Council of 3d June—that you had even complained of the want of candour evinced in including words taken from that correspondence, in one of the resolutions of the day, and that you yourself actually moved and cars rZed, nem. dir., the rejection of those words, because that correspondence formed no part of the question ? Yet you now intimate that I ought. not to asc r ib e to words which you then used the only meaning they cou ld fairly bear, because, in the course of that very corres pondence, you had written something to somebody, s Age months before, of a somewhat different tenor. I say of a somewhat different tenor ; for I am not sure that what you wrote in February was absolutely inconsistent with what you spoke and printed i n J u ly. kßut if it were, are vie to refuse to give to what you last delivered the only meaning the words will bear, because t h a t Meaning does not agree with w h at you may have written live months before ? Is it, then, utterly incon ceivable that: your Lordship may occasionally be a little inconsistent witb you se.l ? Is it an unheard-of thin , that a Parliameetary speaker is sometimes thus incon sistent, especially as subjects which he does not trouble himself to think v:ry - much about? For this, my Lord, is, I apprehead, the 7 , !al clue. An honourable man will, with perfect sincerity, express very different sentiments on the very same subject, if it is a subject which is not much in his mind, and still less in his heart. This is the way in which I should reconcile what may appear contradictory in your Lordship's letter of February, to your speech of July. This im 0, tance or non-im mrtance of religion, seems to strilse P - T iordship very differently on different occasions, your ... according to the shifting convenience of debate, Is this an unc laritabla supposition ? My Lord, I wish it were,- Btu if, instead of adverting to a letter . mo moths before, I advert to a previ ous 1 mitten several p,sssage in this ve.y speech of your Lordship's, I find t n ss si what can bs explained only by your want of due ha4tual and serious attention to the p aramount im -1 portance of religion. Cos:ld any man who had an abiding sense of religion, who .made an habitat:ll prac tical reference of all passing events to the disposal of i Almighty God, could he speak or % - state such a sentence as the one which I am about to quo:.!! After enlarging on the dangers which threaten the ► peace and security of society, from the igNirance of 1 t.he manufacturing population, your Lordship thus pro ; ce eds (p. 16) : " There is no supernatural being on whom your i Lordships can rely to stay the progress of this evil, to t a llay tLe coming dangers—dangers already blackening the itorizon. You can rely upon no other commanding and beoeticent spirit but the diffusion of sound moral and religinls instruction." In other words, man, a nd the devices of man, are all we have to rely upon in thi s w orld! NI,/ Lord, do say, or do I insinuate, that you do . 1. ; not believe in the e xstence, or moral government, of : God ? God forbid ! - gut this I say, that if you had a lively, abiding, practical sense of the blessed truths which the word of God has re,"caled to us, you could not have uttered, much less have L .'eliberately penned and 1 , Tainted, the sentence which I hive cited. And let toe add, which I do with a sincere and' ;yarns desire of t ' ' ournden spiritual welfare, that if the effect of this corres voce shall be to make you think more gravely and . au ra seriously on this most grave and serious subject, , you " v t.II have reason to rejoice that it has been .here ' uroug;'.it before you, however distasteful some of the ) accompar. yin matter may be. Oa theo.ther particular to which your Lordship re g.,_,,,, ~,,, quotation, in a note. from, the Appendix to Me. C-1 ~,,, 7 ~,... 2 -5 ' "7 6 . " R'flui ', i."tis' I 7 D, that .. on the continent a pri.'wipie of economy is the sole motive i tur sobriety" in the m.2nufacturing classes, I thank your Lordship for setting me right respecting the authority of that gentleman on this' ,point. The fact is, that my quotation was taken, not from the report its:4, but from .1 small brochure in quarto, of 20 closely printod pages, itied " The Condition of the Factory and 1-land __di Weasing, Population of France, Austria, Bel gium.. Switzeriand, &c., as shown by the Reports of' the .Assists.nt Hand-loom Commission. London : printed by . Edw a rd Brewster, 1839." At p. 1 7, under the head " Morals, &c. of the Work ing Classes," occurs the passage cited in the note to p. 27 of my charge, to which your Lordship refers. It is stilted to be take; from " Documents communicated 1 e . t 1 1 loth by the Board of Trade, and originating with an engineer (IA manufacturer in Eef.%ium, Mr. Grenville Withers, of Marehinne au Pont, ni .,lr Charleroi," and to have b'en a part of "Appendix to Foreign Report from J. U. Symons, Esq." As there is no intimation given frf the tract from which I quoted that Mr. Symons had dislaimed t: :e sta,'ement, or that the person from whom it proceeded was ,lnknotvn to him, I concluded (too Instily, it ap- pears) that Mr. Symons had given to this document a place in 'lig appendix, because he deemed it worthy of credit. I :vat take care to correct the error, and will ascribe the ; . tatement to its author, Mr. Grenville Withers. My readers wili judge for themselves whether this engineer and manufact:irer in Belgium is entitled to credit, in respect to the : ,, tate of religious feeling among his own workmen and others on the Continent. neanwhile your Lordship will, I am wire,. forgive me, if I add my own testimony, so far as it goes (I admit that it does not go far) respecting the religious know -led4e of some of our own manufacturing people. IN the .!,,r 183 G, a numerous deputation was sent to Loncion, .ondeavour to procure due legislative regulation of the Lour. , of working in the factories. Several of these men, deie j o s 'e3 from different places, I had the gratification hevin t , .at more than one interview. Their general iatelligent.e, and power of explaining their views, much sorpried ate. I was aware, indeed, that they had been B.4eted, and we-e not average specimens of their class. Still they execedeci what I should have expected even in selected men. Bct what was most gratifying was, to th.d that those who wece thus selected for their t:bility intelligence Were also religious and pious men. - I formed this judgment from long conversation with them, in which they stated and deplored the moral condition nf our factorieF, generally evincing, at the same ti►:le, tt. own acquaintance with the blessed truths of the Gr...-pel, and, seemingly, their sincere and deep rever eee those truths. I avow, be it the effect of mere vrejudice or not, that I do not think it would he easy to uroduce a similar deputation from the work ivg classes of Belgium, or Prussia, or France, and that ti,erefore I am predisposed to assent to the accuracy of Mr. Grenville Withers's testimony on this point. Be this as it maj'. your Lordship will agree with me, that it is impossible oot to feel a warm interest in the welfare of such men, anj an ardent wish that measures raqy be taken to giv . e to ell of t.ieir class those institu tions and opportunities of religious instruction and wor ship, which, with God's blessing, may be at means of making many to be like the few whom I lame , thus seen. I h ave th e h onour t o be, my Lord, your L.ord s4iP's most obedient servant. H. EXETER. perceive on inspection, which I did not give to it before, that the printed paper from which I quoted is only a portion of a work, apparently going through the press. It was sent to me by a gentleman who had informed me of the passage cited by me, on my desir ing bins to g i ve me his authority for it. I subjoin another brief citation iron the same Paper, which states that it is part of the same document, taken from the same appendix, p. 173 I have had at different t i me s, and in various parts of Belgium, more than 20,000 workmen under my control, and I m confident that not five per cent. of them could read and write. In the small towns and villages the supt , rsticion and ignorance of the people are amazing; their faculti es ar e locked up and ben umbed for want cf being called iuto exercise." 'INe Marquis of Lansdowne, K.G. THE IiMEQUis OF LANSDOWNE TO THE BISHOP OF EXETER. London, Nov. 25, 1839. MY LORD,—I avail myself of the fiat opportunity t h e post affords, to acknowledge ) 01.1r Lordship's letter from Exeter, which, although dated the 20th instant, I did not receive in London till the 23d. It would not be necessdry for me to do more, if, in endeavow_ring to explain the grounds of your previous miscppreheroion of my meaning, your Lordship had not allow.ed yourself to be betrayed into a ntis-statement ho lens inaccurate than the allusion which your Lordship admit s , ourself to have erroneously made to Mr. Sy mons'a report. Your Lordship states, in referm:ce to your having omitted to advert to a passage in the correspondence :hen upon th e ta bl e b etween Lord John Yusselt and myself, in which I had, in your own words, " written something to somebody" on the subject of education, that 1 had no right to consider that correspondence as " under discussion ;" and subsequently that you "can not sufficiently express your astonishmen%" that I should have so considered it. You further state, that I " protested" against " bringing that correspondence under discussion ;" and you add, in supposed confirma tion of it, that I myself moved that some words" taken from that correspondence" should be omitted in the resolutions on that account. These assertions are equally unfounded. Ist. That correspondence could not have been under discussion, when it was specially referred to in the very terms of the motion, which, though your Lordship sup ported it, you appear to have forgot, which are, "that this house has had under its consideration the various documents which have been presented by her Majesty's command respecting public education, &c., and also the letters of the Secretary of State and the Presid en t o f t h e Council of the 4111, 6th, and 9 th of February respec tively." 2d. I did not, in any part of my speech, " protest" against " that correspondence" being discussed (as your Lordship has affirmed, though you have not condes cended to point out any passage in the report to which you ascribe so much accuracy, in support of the affirma tion), whilst I did protest against one minute of Council being confounded in debate with another. 3d. I did not move and carry the omission of any words simply because they were " taken from that cor respondence," but because, by an error in one of the re solutions, quite unintentional on the part of the most Reverend mover, the exact terms of the appointment of the Committee were incorrectly cited Your Lordship proceeds gravely to declare that, in a passage of the reported speech, prefacing an allusion to the interference of a heathen deity with the ordi nary course of nature, in which you find the words, " W e have not a supernatural being on whom we can rely" to supply the place of education, you discover the absence of " a lively, abiding, practical sense of the blessed truths which God has revealed to us." Can it be necessary for me to state, for the satisfac tion of the commonest listener or reader, that in this passage I could mean to question none of those blessed truths—can it be deemed inconsistent with a reve rence for the divine power, as sincere and as " abid ing" as your Lordship's, to declare and to insist that we must not expect God to effect for us by a miracle, that improvement in our social system which his Di. vine Providence has enabled us to effect for ourselves? I cannot conclude without assuring your Lordship, that I sincerely regret that you consider that there was the slightest want of courtesy towards you in permitting my letter to be published without waiting for a reply. I id conceived that it would be your Lordship's wish that it you had misconceived any opinion of mine, that ruis conception should be removed as soon as possible ; arid that I was strictly following your Lordship's example, who bad so recently published your comments on opi nions attributed to me, without affording an opportunity for any explanation of mine to accompany those comments when laid before the public.—l have the honour to be, Your Lordship's most obedient servant, (Signed) LANSDOWNE. The Bishop of Exeter. BIRMINGHAM GOVERNMENT POLICE. GREAT TOWN'S MEETING AT BIRMING HAM. e esterday a most important meeting of the inhabi- .., .. . all the obloquy. —(Hear, hear.) What does Lord you ,, Le . jigs) wo ,ave the benefit of him to - do so, ev en f or a very few Minutes ; but h e con .ants of Bir m i ng h am , convene d b y t h e M ayor i n accord- sidered that every individual, however humble, was ante with the w i s h es o f about I,bound to sh ow on w hi c h s id e h e was ranged when he for John say? H e sa y s , " H ere i s a popu l ar party as ki ng 500 ratepayers of the one measure—here is another party, opposed to the borough, was held i n th e T own .h.ll, for the p ur p ose ofconsidered the rights and liberties of his country in way of asking f o the people, another—and, by considering wheth er any an d w h at steps s h ou ld b e ta k en rights danger.—(Hear and c h eers . I t was an am i a bl e, b ut in consequence o f th e i ntro d uct i on o f t h e G overnment meting out even h an d e d justice, I will at once reject the sometimes a dang erous , c h aracter i st i c o f E ng li shmen, Police into the b oroug h. El even o ' c l oc k was t h e h our that they were s l ow to suspect t h e i ntr i gues of those who fixed upon for the m ee ti ng , an d at t h at t i me t h e h a ll was wishes of the popular , party, and hand th em o v er t o wished t o a b r id ge t h e i r r i g h ts, an d never was there a their enemies.' —( Hear, hear.) This was the sort o f Government. impartiality manifested by the He had densely crowded w ith th e wor ki ng men o f the town.time when it was more needful closely to wetch them, been told that the reason why Lord John Russell The side and great galleries were also filled, and around to prevent the usurpations of despotic power, which it felt angry with the Birmingham Town Council was, the place appointed in the organ gallery for the Chair- was often vain to attempt to destroy when once ac manthat they had passed a reeolution, which he thought were the most res p ec t a bl e i n h a bi tants o f t h e town. quired.(Hear, hear.) It was only to such a failing y Before the Ch a i r was ta k en , M r . SHEARMAN, one of to be disres p ectful to himself and c o llea gue s . — (Cries us this that h e cou ld attr ib ute t h e fact that every firm of •' Hear, hear, hear.") He regretted what had the Committee, a dd resse d t h e mu l t i tu d e i n t h e h a ll , ex- fi•iend of hi s country h a d not proceeded as one man on Liberal, confessedly Liberal principles pressing a hope th a t th e resu lt o f th a t d a y s ' meeting been founded against the Government police which had been forced they, the men of Birmingham, ' which would give the lie to man y, man y hop e s an d w i s h es , an d —a Government upon them.—(lmmense cheering.) The Town-Council, also put an end to the fears of not a few, th a t it would had helped to fix in their places —he regretted, he in its collective capacity, had done that which they that said, that Government, which was the very creature end in confusion. He knew that there we re many whocould to oppose this Bill, but he thought it only an act should Birmingham, have forgotten those wished that there should be a disturbance, an d th at there of the men of of simple justice to state that they were greatly indebted d i themselves to had rase h hi they l rincipes by which were many others who feared it ; but th ere were some, pto the jealous and able labours of the Town-Clerk for had smarted ower.—(reat cheering.) The people also, and he knew them, who had tried t o ma k e a di s - pthe stand that had been made, for witheut them, con under a disappointment of which they were undeserving ; siderin g th e i nertness w i th which they had to contend i h n ay s e o h m e e en partpara paralysed.—(Hear, e ( H C e o u u r, nc h i e l turbance. He hoped, however, that e very t hi ng t h at they had asked, after patient endurance, to part a k e , a r. a ) l l their u z s e u a l l s 0 might the meeting was a legal, valid, an d p eace f u l one, h e had would be done would be done with goo d f ee li ng, an d if themselves of the benefits of th e C ons tit u ti on t h ey had asked to have a voice in the election of th e i r re no doubt that it would be a p ower f u l one . that the men of Birmingham should be informed that presentatives—they had asked for protection in the . On the Mayor, Puiai it HENRY MUNTz, Esq., mak-the Government Police Commissioners had recently and that of their votes ; the stewards to whom ing his appear ance i n th e organ ga ll ery, h e was received giving offered the Town-Clerk the solicitorship connected with should give an entrusted their rights and liberties with a storm of groans , ye ll s , an d h i sses , i n the m i dst of theythis obnoxious measure.—( Hear, hear.) account of the trust reposed in them more frequently ThY • knew which he stood f orwar d, an d sa id h e w i s h e d no f avour at what a w on d er f u l e ff ect t h ese t hi ngs had upon thlepatrint than they had hitherto done—and which, if granted, he their hands for him se lf, b u t h e w i s h e d a f avour f or t h em- ism of multitudes—(Laughter)—but he had nobly &- believed would have united the present Ministe rs selves.—(Hisses, and cr i es o f " G o away ," " Y ou h ave dined accepting it, o r t o rece i ve any emolument from a with the people, and have rendered their power in-no business here.") As so on as th e meet i ng wassystem which he believed to be dangerous to the liber vni ible.-- : (Hear.) So deeply was he imbued with ties of his country—(L ou d app l ause)—a measure by over he would answer any q ues ti on th ey m i g h t t ese sentiments that he earnestly desired the people to have to propose, and giv e ever y ex pl ana ti on t h ey which the Minister of the day placed within their town desired, but so - long as he pr es id e d as offi assemble again.—(Cheers.) They should not be cer a large body of men drilled and organised under the by previous di i but they h eus sppontments, sould of that meeting, it wa s f or th e i nteres t o f the daunted control of a Commissioner appointed by him, and' who associate . again—they should form to themselves prin- also acted as a Justice of tho Peace, with between forty meeting that they should not consider him as Philip t t lea—insist en having them advanced—and . pursue and fifty officers of various grades 51,ru - j - 31Uutt, but as thc Mayor of Birmingham.—below him.—(Hear, i tu u t i l e d ut they were safely and practically established. (Hear.) He was anxious for their sakes, as well •iii •'• hear.) This force be could order to act without a for his own, that nothing should be done to injure the ( • cheers.) The Rev. Gentleman concluded by moment's notice, with deadly weapons, without even wring the first resolution, which appears 1 . 0 another cause in which they were engaged. He would act fairlyreading the Riot Act, as in the case of the Tmi nam— e() Unlit. and impartially as Chairman of that meeting, and after (Loud of ' Shame, shame.") If they • inn. that did not nu that they might groan and hiss him for a fortnight if BARTHOLOMEW REDFERN, Esq., seconded the reso- plicitly obey, theere ar S t to f State could e y they pleased.—(Cheers and hisses.) He hoped they lution, supplant any of the b o dy, w i t h out a moment ' s notice, would disprove the charge that h a d b een b rought aga i nst Before it was put to the meeting, from the lowest to the highest.—(Hear.) The principles them, that the men of Birmingham were not fit to meet Mr. BROWN, one of the leaders of the Chartist body upon which this despotic measure are based are so en to Jether. This was not the proper time to speak regarding in Birmingham, rose to move an amendment. He said tirely repugnant to justice, sound policy, and the British hims,?lf, so that all the vague reports and aspersions that he had no respect for the police force, an d wou ld Constitution, that had it not been hurried through Par which had been circulated against him might remain do everything in his power to destroy its efficiency,— liament at the very close of the S e s s i on , un d er the worst where they were at present, but when the meeting was (Cheers.) He had not intended to address the meeting, possible misrepresentations, and when the Ministers and over, he would give every explanation they desired. He but feeling the wrongs and insults heaped upon the work- their dependents constituted the majority of the begged, in conclusion, that they would not allow th e ing men he had come forward to do his duty. He cared Members in attendance, that corrupt as was the present course of the business to be interrupted by any personal not if they had a police force of 20 , 0 00 men, providing House of Commons, he could hardly believe that it feeling towards him, because he had that love and the working classes, in conjunction with th e i r wea l t hi er would have escaped.—(Shame.) He knew there wer e f r i en d s hip for his fellow-townsmen which would cause a neighbours, possessed the power of electing and control- some of his fellow-townsmen who thou g ht th a t needl ess feeling of deep regret in his mind if h e s h ou ld prove an ling them. He cared not whether the police were at the alarm had been taken at the operation of this measure, obstacle in the way of the proceedings being conducted command of the Government of the country or a small but the most deliberate consideration he could give the in a peaceable, orderly, and legal manner. section of the people, because under either power the subject, he confessed, tended rather to strengthen his [Th e o b s erv a ti on s of the Mayor, on the whole were force was unconstitutional.—(Cheers.) The object for fears. He would, however, read t o th e mee ti ng th e well received by the meeting, although some p or ti on o f which he rose was to move an amendment on the reso - opinion of some others upon this subject.—[Mr. Sturge the meeting still testified their disapprobation of his lution—" That the public will never be content with a here read an extract from a letter received from the preeenete by conticued hisses.] police force of any description under the command o f Town Clerk of Arundel, in reference to this infringement Mr. Seeeafteta.et informed the meeting that the bo. any body or individual, until the people have obtained on the rights of Corporate towns, to which he said that rough Membt. e s , Messrs. Attwood an d S c h o l e fi e ld, h a d the same political and local privileges enjoyed by only a " should any attempt be made unconstitutionally been invited to attend the meeting. The former gen- few."—( Hear, and c h eers .) Wh at was t h e o bj ect of to i nter f ere i n the local Government of boroughs, the tleman was at present in Jersey, an d th e y h a d rece i ve d the introduction of the police force into Birming- expenses of which were borne by local funds, which no reply from him, but i'eom Mr. Scholefield the Com- ham ? Briefly for the - purpose of stifling public it was to be hoped no Administration in England, would mittee had a letter, in which he expressed his willing- opinion ?—(Cheers.) What was the object of the bru- ever venture upon, the Town Council of Arundel, and ness to propose the resolution: forwarded to him, and cal attack made in that town on defenceless people ? surely every municipal body in the kingdom, would use expresssing his cordial approval of the object of the Simply because the working people, having been gulled all their influence to prevent such a destruction of the meeting. He had since, however, written to say, that long enou g h, had resolved on taking their own affairs liberties of Englishm e n."—(Ch eers .) Th e s eco nd letter he was indisposed, and c o uld not a tt en d,--(This an- into their own hands. Then s a id th Government we he would refer t o , was f rom an i n fl uent i a l Ald erman o f nouncement was received with general laughter.) will break in upo n them, we will destroy their organize- the borough of Manchester, who said "We do not ap- Mr Shearman also announced that a letter had been tian, an d prevent them from u n iti ng . Wheu they prove the principle any more than yourselves. In fact, received from Mr. Wm. Scholefield, who regretted ina- quietly arid orderly met year after year, and poured in the Whig Ministry, instead of being in the disgraceful Lility to attend, being detained on business is London. upon the Government their remonstrances, when they plight, not to be able to justify their own act, under The letter was loudly called for, and Mr. Shearman read proved to them over and over again that they w ere i n the sign manual, ought to have insisted on an Act of extracts from it to the meeting. They were as follows : deep di s t ress , wh en they exhibited to them incontestible Parliament to interpret your rate-.paying clause, and " I much regret that my unavoidable detention here ' proofs of loyalty, and a disposition to support the in- ours also, or else to have resigned ; but they will cling will not permit my also taking an humble part in your stitutioos of /t h e country — w h at did t h e reforming Go. to office, no m a tt er w h at i n di gn i ty accompan i es i t. " proceedings, by publicly recording my unqualified ropug vernment do Did they sympathize with th e poor ? —( H ear , and cheers.) The next letter was from his nance to the principle of the uneonstitutional measure No, no. Did they bold out any hopes of re li e f? . Did f r i en d J oseph Walmslev, who had been this year una which it is the object of the meeting to stigmatise and they take any steps to extend to the peeple those ri g ht s nimosly elected Mayor of Liverpool. "It appears to to condemn. I the more regret my necessary absence, of which they had been robbed? No—th e y met t h e me (h e sa id) to b e one link of the chain of centrali that a communication of my own to Lord J. Ruse!' people with 4i,sdain, they taunted them with their igno- zetiou which the rural police, under irresponsible has been more than once appealed to as a justification ranee, they d etl i ee d th e i r power—and when their po. power, is intended to fill up, and would be an almost of the measure, as though I had of fi cially recommended vette', which was their only crime, became too vital blow to the Municipal Act, the s pi r it ;In d i riten _ the course pursued by her Majesty s Government. My great to be endured, and that under the influence of Lion of which was, that they who pay s h a ll h ave the ' letter to Lord J. Russell was, however studiously framed despair, they spoke aloud, and proclaimed their deter. management and control of their own local affairs.— in a private and unofficial shape ; and so far from mination to be free, then they augmented the army, —(Hear.) Mr. Sturge afterwards read the resolutions, sanctioning the most remote approach to a vesting of initituted police, and rezAlved on cutting down the come to by the Corporation of the City of London, a the appointment of the police in the hands of the Home people rather than listen to their just complaints or try body, he observed, which, at different periods of their his- Office, I expressly pointed out the Council as the de- to relieve them. Did the Government think the tory, made such noble stands against the unconstitutional positaries of the advance required, and the controllers of working classes sure naturally vicious, or anxious t o usurpation s of' the Crown, and in th e i r success f u l re . the force to be raised. Indeed Lord J. Russell himself destroy their country Did they imagine the people sistance against the present Government police measure, neither ma de nor feigned (for of the latter he is inca- had no regard for their country or their comforts ? It they stood alone; but when the Mi n i str y had conquered pable) any misinterpretation of my meaning. His first would appear they did think so, and hence th e y h a d tins and other places, they would probably again renew impulse was to act in close accordance with the recom- driven the rem to desperation. They Wright, however, their attempts up on th e City o f L on d on —( H ear, mendation I had offered—a course from which he was rel y upon it the real state of the coun t r y mus t b e laves- hear.) But t h e e ff ects o f these police w ou ld t e , afterwards diverted by the insidious suggestions of Sir tigdted ; the distress of th e people roust be relieved, or more severely felt in the rural districts. S ome o f Robert Peel, and to which all the efforts of the Coun- , there would ere long be . 4gablished such a union his friends, in writin g to him upon the subject, cil, the advice of most of the leading Liberal Members of the middle classes as wail),) be irresistab ie. expressed themselv es strongly upon this point, in :4- of the House of Commons, and, above all, a consistent That union had . that d a y cominenced,Cheers.) much as th e y could offer no resistance in remot e pl aces obedience to the principl es o f hi s own M un i c i pa l Bill , He was not more m favour of physical force than a n ) Lo the introduction of the measure, or the despotic ex. unhappily failed to induce him to return." of those gentlemen erauMl him, but th e y mus t a ll a , e rcise of the arbitrary power with which the body was The Rev. T. M. M‘DowteeLa (Roman Catholic knowledge, and the G"e'ragiant, no matter of what invested. Contrary to the opinion entertained by some, priest) then rose to move the first resolution, and was party it might be composed, woukt yet be compelled to although the entire control of the police was vested received with much cheering. He said that at the pre- acknowledge, that the working -classes had been despised, in some agent of the Government of the day, the whole sent moment, and under present circumstances, he had neglected, and reduced to that poverty and destitution of the expense was to be paid by a local tax upon the i which their industry and . well-known skill did not de- town ; and the 10,0001, lent—and which, be it remem many reasons, and some very powerful ones, for declin • to address the meeting ; an d mg some tried friends, in serve,—(Cheers.) All he then ask e d o f t h e gent l emen bored, the Council never asked for—was to be repaid remonstrating with him, had gone so far as to say there aroutul him was, that they would give them their as- by the people of Birmingham, with interest at five per would be a row there that day ; but his answer had sistance in destroying all faction, Tory or Whig, and in cent. ; and yet the advance of that paltry sun, was the been, that he never consulted his own interest when he establishing upon their ruins such a just system of !Dais- only excus e ma d e f or depr i v i ng t h em of their municipal thought he could promote the interests of his f e ll ow - lation as would secure to all classes , rich and poor, rights, granted under the seal of their Sovereign.— t own smen.—(Cheers.) It was for others to mi srepre - equal laws, just protection, rose raj o f i n du s t r y, an d corn- (He ar .) Th e hi gh pay,too, which t h ose w ho:enro le them sent an d persecute him if they pleased. Th e y were pensation for capital.—(Cheers.) lifi never would selves in this force rece i ve d , d ou ble the sum which a poor reenonsible for their own conduct ; but having it in his' igein support L oon w ho, mere ly f or their own bare pur- agricultural labourer could earn to s upport himself and power L's utter sentiments which he believed would b e poses, professed Litterel principles, whilst they refuter)his f am il y , w h ile every fifth man was e n officer, and beneficial to :lie people of Birmingham, and which, he to act upon them.—(efteeeee.)the eo s e all, r en d ere d believed, would co to He trusted that from p, pet of pro mo ti on was held out . - . `tribute to the peace of the town, that day the middle arid .working pleases of Birm i ngham them servile instruments in the hands of the party w h o Treenrsfelous cheer- happen to be in • • r „ee l% ) On a late oc efforts of the popular tarty . would forget all past anienoeitieser( . „. , P, Their stand . p ower.—(Hear, s Pv4 .1 , , . which would consolidate :. 6 e ea s eential to the happi- f iny,)—and that they would boldl y . taste etand elision . in their town, did not the so ldiers s eompiel e t h ilt in the attainment of measures that he had •igiiinet the common enemy—that thin, would ,see ,the F i c 1 1!:le the London police received five only 10" nt ngsa-d'l ness of the people at large—briut the opportunity of doing this, he had come to ti,),e meet- necessity foir xerdial co-operation, and that who would g tt : if P,P u w,4r4s / they (the soldiers) had . )....e In shilling, Cheney never cease until ,eeeeey honest man contri- I although "fi t 9 ' 49 y a 4 he Ficrk )177- * I l lea c r e . ; they 4 ustsay, ing willing and determined to do his duty.—(Cheers.) What had they met for ? They' had !net to order to . homed of: the . ,wegare, the eerptection, and . exist- .n more f rbgeulit of some acts of VIO ! . 1 n Lie than showedthe London ! not e encesociety, had a legitirnsito _ voice i police. _uaranee towards tb9 re-,. snuff bo determine whether they were Englishmen „or the G ov;es for In order to determine practically the question, whether thing ernmeat of the eases:JOT. In .hie there . was nee . . Q. „,..._ B 14 t th e y had heard of no hold Stur , e) had we live under a Constitution, or whether we live under , Wa _ ip unjust or_ unreasonable.—(Chcere.) An lae . t t . t ou , i_ ( ()lid hisses.) He (A. late• one becausespoken asion, , dust, and th e working classes had now acquired t . ser , g y of the subecriptiep on a , a despotism.—(Tremendous cheering.) 'Whether the . •.° so t group R. knowledge of their rights, that no power it was calculate'd ih 'hid opinion t o yofter! very material), People through the regular gradations of authority, dale- n on earth .coteld n - ,t,ec,P them from them without the de- the fearful breach already existing between the inicidi'le gated to others, are fit to goyern themselves.—(Renewed chee s e, struction of tb,e best fl t t,re t. f ' It was im- and the workiag classes, and to e3nvey the impression . A-. 7, P ppmety. fig,) Or whether they were 19 exchange the so much boasted but • be feared. . - .. -r.. possible thins amid, fo op L s,s'l4 e,y wo . e . lie knew the that the Police h a d acte d t o the general satisfaction o f nominal, freedom of Engle.. - ' i t ,, b a3;ii .,• iicr e : i 4t i , (b .4 .akic t i n sa le_ the tnhabitantit. But with resnect tn the subject more men, for the real ^ ('Rsp t: . q.ses were - applause.) He had fi ° ilm of the Continent.—(Great middle one, • tte• 'eb• '' ' • ' ''' '• . `'''rnedi 4 tel 'be are' . ' - Ft' L' cr r)• 4 - b • -et no o f th e sy,et e v, • ete,. ~ e• ,y 1, epthem, r e ,youl o servo that tee eerie a great many things 'in de pre- defence they must demand an cation of a standing arm , b enema.. - -h.„ (meet gi Ale pbbed 'o6' I f to . ' bb' the' rel'ention sift) •'- - ef --", , g'' , , ••-•'I ' ' tt ' ut the force which they —(Cheers.) The Government :I. : had met to condemn, an y dtai resist it as -- th e b urg u r v pi N p oipt §,mll,,ir oi Ae nd ets , which they had met, he pleased, they might hang trusted entirely to crush, • and imprison men, and render detectiou e. •-- 'Arniete rind aFffivti, ii).r was neither more nor less than desolate their families, but the evil having its • • in TI new force, however , • origin re wean . --• night, arrneCi en ous cheering.) It had, how- bad legislation could only be remedied by good legisla- he had seen one of them himself, On Frida - ... .-..--.. THE SUN, LONDONI,_WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 27. 1839. ever, this aggravation, that when they bad a standing army, they knew what they had to contend against— they knew all its capabilities and oblizatione ; but here was a set of men, neither citizens nor soldiers—they had the evils of both—they were neither "fish, nor flesh, nor good red herring."—(Laughter.) But under the delusive garb o fcitizens, they had the most extended capabilities of mischief.—( Hear, hear.) Against. a system of this kind he should never cease to protest.— (Cheers.) Against the men themselves they could have no hostility—it was against the system they protested. The sentiment that had fallen from their Chairman was worthy of an enlightened patriot, for the people were never so strong as when they quietly re flected on those questions which affected them, and de termined on legitimate means for their reform. This could never be achieved by two or three individuals, but must be effected by large masses of the people. This might seem a recommendation to them to act in re sistance to anything constitutional, or authority. But the working men of Birmingham knew him too well to suppose him capable :of recommending anything of the kind—first, because it would be wrong in itself, and because he had lived long enough to see that there was a God in Heaven who visited with his malediction .those who violated its sacred injunctions ; and secondly, because these things hardly ever succeeded, and entailed'on the men themselves who took part in such opposition, their families, and their country, greater evils than those which they endea voured to correct.—(Cheers.) He was obliged, in justice, too, to say that he did want the police. They (the men of Birmingham) were said to be wicked fel lows ; the parsons had declared as much in their evi dence before the House of Commons : they said the men were all rogues ; and as for the female part of the community, what they had said was fitter for parsons' tongues than for his, therefore he would not utter it.— (Cheers and laughter.) These parsons had had the men of England and the men of Birmingham in their keeping for SOO years, and sad bungling work they had made of it. They now said they would have " no Popery," plainly implying that they had more of it than they wished, and they were now about to (Jive back to the Church o f R ome th ose w h om they found honest—a parcel of rogues.—(Great laughter.) He was accused of saying his prayers in Latin ; but he confessed he never remembered sinners in his prayers that a pack of Tories did not rush across his mind. —(Renewed laughter.) He bad no objection, on the contrary 4 with every other man in the town he felt a personal interest in the establishment of an efficient police, but they wished to have some control over those persons.—( Hear.) A knife was a useful instrument., but people did not like to place it in the hands of men of whom they had a bid opinion. Therefore, he thought, first, that they should have a police in ar mingham ; and, second; that that police should be ap pointed according to the ancient Constitutioo by those who required their protection, and to whom they should be ameuable for the proper discharge of their duty.— (Cheers.) What had been done ? The charter framed by the Government themselves was declared invalid, or at least was thought to be so, and a par cel of Tories went thereupon to Lord John Russell, and said •"Fhese Birmingham men are utterly unfit to govern themselves, but make an appointment in the true spirit of Toryism. Do you become a second Sir Robert Peel, and do that of which, when we come into office, we will have the benefit, and we will work it in a way worthy of the old days of Toryism in Eng• land, while - (the Wh' ill hr the benefit tion.—(Cheers.) Under this conviction he moved the amendment he had propcsed. JOHN FUSSELL, another Chartist, seconded the amendment, and said he did so because he tel; con , v inced that they ought not to have either a police or any other force in the country unless it was under the control of the pe4ple, and such never could be the case so long as the great mass of the people might be said to be without the pale of the Consti tution. His friend Brown bad advised a union of the middle and working classes. He would caution them against any union not based upon a fixed under standing. They well knew that the middle class( s had already betrayed them, and had driven them to take their affairs into their own hands. What had the Rev. Mr. M‘Donnell told them ? Why, that the appointment of the police ought to be in the hands of the Corpora tion. That was a farce, The working men had no voice in the Corporation, and if they consented to give the power into the hands of that body they would ho in the same situation as at present.—(" No, no !" " Yes !") He would say to the working men, he al ways watchful of men who had once turned their coats. JOSEPH STURGE, Esq. then presented himself, and was received with tremendous cheering. He said, as one of those who wished to live to see the day when every civil and religious privilege was placed within the reach of the poorest as well as the richest man in the community—(Cheers) —h e wished to say a few words in reference to the amendment. They knew they had many powerful enemies to contend again t. They had many excellent but timid frieuds, who had been greatly afraid of the result of that meeting.—(Hear, hear.) He knew that some of the originators of that meeting had b een sent to Coventry because they ha caused that assemblage, and knowing all this he would put it to them whether it would not appear a breach of faith with those who had signed the requisi tion, if they were by any sitiewind to frustrate the object of the meeting. If the working men wished to call a meeting for the franchise, and they had any difficulty in procuring that Hall, he would pay all expense, and guarantee any damage that might be done.—( Loud cheering.) A long discussion then took place respecting the pro priety of withdrawing the amendment, when it was eventually agreed that it should be withdrawn, on the condition that the mover should have the liberty of pro posing it as a substantive resolution. The first resolution was then put and carried, amidst cheers. Mr. BuowN then came forward, and proposed the amendment as a resolution, and in doing so again dwelt on the present distressed condition of the working classes ; and in a sensible and effective speech pointed out the necessity of a further extrusion of the suffrage, as the only means by which they could avert the threatened evils of the country, and do away with that class of legislation to which all their miseries were to he attributed. The working men had on that occasion given up to the wishes of the middle classes, and he hoped there would not be a gen tleman present - who would not vote for his resolution.— Hear, hear.) Mr. FUSSELL seconded the resolution, which was carried unanimously, not a single hand being held up against it. Mr. STURGE, on rising to move the next resolution, was received with enthusiastic cheering- H dh- .e sal. ,e was so little qualified to address such an immense assembly, that nothing but a sense of public duty would have induced with a cutlass.—(Shame.) Now he held that if police were thus armed at all, they should carry their wea pons openly and at all times, and that the soldiers are much less danceereos to the lives of the public, than men who were only armed with mortal arms at the die. eretion of an individual.—( Hear, hear.) This, it ap peared might have been the case when the police at tacked the people on the 4th of July, but if they had been armed as regular troops, the crowd would have known what to expect.—( Hear, hear.) He found, too, that if the persons selected to manage this police (anti be here begged most distinctly to disclaim all personal allusions, as the parties were entire strangers to him), that next to the Commissioner, who was the nominee of the Conservative county magistrates, three out of five of the principal officers had served in the Queen of Spain's army, and obtained their military rank there.— ( Hear, hear.) Now, he left it to his fellow-townsmen to say whether, if this force had been only intended for the legitimate objects of police, men who were so fond of the battle field as to seek it on a foreign service, were the most suitable of all others to command them ? and whether a police under such control was likely to add to the m ora l i mprovement o f the town what it de tracted from its pecuniary resources.—(Cheers ) The feelings of the rate-payers had not been consulted in their appointment, and the London Police (and they knew what they were) appear to have been taken as their model.—(Hear, hear.) Their measure, he con ceived, also proved that they were intended for soma thing more than they professed, and that it was intended as a system of espionage, he need only mention that May, the Superintendent of the London Police, stated, in his evidence, that he had had two of his men in that capacity for months in this town.—(Groans and hisses.) He would also refer to the letter which was published last week, which was addressed by the Birmingham Police Commissioners to the Mayor of Newport.— (Hisses.) Such, indeed, was the character of the force altogether, that he was firmly of opinion, that upon their successful opposition to it—and if the men of Bile mingham could not succeed who could ?—greatly de pended the questioc whether the people of this country were to be governed by moral or physical force, and the: it was the duty, therefore, of every true friend to his country, to use every Constitutional means of opposing it.—(Cheers.) To the advocates of physical force he would say —pause and examine its results before you persist in it further ?—(Cheers.) He felt strongly upon this subject, for he had no hesitation in stating to this v.ist assembly that he believed the taking away of human life, under any possible circumstances, was forbidden by Christianity, and that it was equally con trary to sound policy and true national safety.—(Hear and cheers.) Per himself he would far rather be sent a penniless exile from his country, than a single hu man life should be lost in defending either his property or person.—" Hear, hear," and applause.) They might perhaps be disposed to ask, how persons holding such sentiments, could successfully hope tor protection,:or re sist the encroachments of despotism ? To these he would reply, that in his humble opinion these weapons w. re far more irresistible when universally acted upon, titan all the mortal weapons in the world.—(Hear.) Doing full justice to the people, they would find far greater security than in the most powerful armed po lice.—(lmmense cheering.) He would recommend them in opposing this most obnoxious Police Bill, to have re course to these measures. But he believed there was a legal defect in the Act of Parlia ment which they must have carefully examined. Next, the Press was open to them, which (though at the present moment it might be under the influence of those in power, or of those who hoped to possess power), thy might in the end expect to see this mighty engine employed in its legitimate vocation--exposing abuses, and fearlessly contending for the rights of the people.—(Cheers.) They could also try the result of an appeal to Parliament next Session to repeal the Bid, and even should they fail, it would afford them the opportunity of showing to the world the hideous defor mity of the measure, and, if' needful, they might then consider what steps should next be taken.---(Loud cheers.) He knew there were so many alarmed at the present state of things that they were ready to give up a portion of their liberty for the sake of what they called security ; but that security, it would be recol lected, was to be procured by the introduction of an armed police, and the adoption of measures which alie nated the feelings of the great mass of the working classes. They might suppress the expression of public opinion for a time, but they must be conscious that without doing justice to th e people they were treading on a smothered volcano. He also knew there were some who considered that the few and the wealthy should govern the poor and the many ; but he could not find in his Bible, either in the doctrine or example of Him whom all Christians professed to follow, a single passage to justify such an opinion or such a practice.—(linmense cheering.) It was the conviction of a Christian duty which had brought him there that day, and which told him that he should resist by all possible means such measures as the Government Police Bill.--cs(Cheers.) He felt that he would not be obeying the injunctions of his Divine Master, "to love his neighbour as himself" if he did not use any little influense which by might possess to prevent encroachments upon the liber ties of his country, though they might not affect him personally van d it was also his duty to advocate the rights of the poorest individual in the community to all the religiou, civil, and political privileges of the wealthiest in the land.—(Cheers.) Sonic might be dis posed to blame him for promotiug meetings such a s the present at this time, but he so f.r differed from them that he firmly believed the public and constitutional ex ' pression of popular opinion at the present eventful pe riod was their greatest—he had almost said their only safety.—(Great applause.) The severe censure cast upOn the middle orders of society for their want of sym pathy with the working classes, at some of the nume rous meetings which had been held, had produced an effect which both concerned and alarmed him ; and whilst he would earnestly appeal to all of the former class to remove every such ground of complaint, ohe would warn his working friends against listening too readily to such representations.—(Hea r .) He felt in dignant that they had been included in one sweeping condemnation, because of the wicked and mad conduct of perhaps one in a thousand of the population in the destruction of property in the town ; and did one of that vast asssembly listen with that compla cency with which such sentiments had been heard and responded to in other places—he would im plore him to consider those who uttered such opinions as the most inveterate enemies to the cause of liberty, and to rest assured that for every victim of popular fury sacrificed, the welfare of tens of thousands of the very class must suffer whom they falsely said they w ish to serve.—(Cheers.) He knew that recent events had created, in many honest minds, a feeling of despondency, and that the suspension of holding public meetings for the expression of public opinion, might pro duce the most peaceful consequences ; but i.o all peace. able reformers he would say that their cause was not so helpless as they might suppose. It had been his privilege long to fight under a peaceful banner in a cause which, at one time, appeared much more helpless than theirs—that of endeavouring to obtain the personal liberty of their fellow subjects in the West Indian Islands—(Cheers)—and if anything contributed more than another to the success of that cause, it was under Providence the unexampled patience with which the y Birmingham, bore their suff er i ngs ; and if ' the men at and their fello w - su bj ects i n other parts of the kin g d om were united in th e i r efforts, though their ju rhts might for a ti me b e withheld, they might feel st assu ig red that they would ultimately gain tinan.—(lmmense cheering,) The wise and good of all sects and ell par ties, when they saw they were determined not to gain even a righteous cause by unrighteous means, would join them ; and, above all, they might rest assured of the blessing of Him who could blast the mightiest means, and crown with the most signal success the feeblest effort.—(Great applause.) No, the cause of true free dom was not to be stopped in its onward course even by this formidable Government police ; and the petiee ful name of the men of Birmingham in its favour would again be echoed by millions of their countrymen in accents that should be heard by the Senate and the Tnrone, till the equal rights of alt should be fully achieved and secured, fot they were all equal in the sight of God. Mr. St urge concluded amidst vehement end continued cheering by meting the resolution, Mr. GEORGE EosioNos next addressed the tneet:n;:. and in a powerful speech denounced the folly of physical force, and recalled to the recollection of the working classes the stand he hall made against it in that Hall, when it unfortunately was first broached. He had from his earliest moments advocated the principl, s of Reform. He had stood by them in all their difficulties, and he considered he would be a traitor to the people had he advised them to resort to violence for the attainment of their object. He had always told them, and he would now repeat it, that there was no necessity for physical force. They had only to wish to be free—they had only in a firm but legal and constitutional manner to declare their determination to be so, and they would be so. Ttlis was the doctrine he had always preached to thorn, although in the most unhandserne and unmanly manner he bed been hcld up as a Destructive in the House of Commons by Sir Robert Pool, Mr. SHEARNAN said he rose as the locum tenens of Mr. Giles, the Secretary, and because he had conducted a part of the public press in this town, 140 was still coarieeted with the press, though not now residing in Birmingham. Mr. Storge had alluded to the power of the press, and eulogised m its lib er t y . No an more admired th e lib erty f the press than himself; but no man more abhorred its licentiousness. A part of the public press of this town had lately committed one of the grossest outrages on one of the best teen, if pqt the very best man in the town, He qllu . (led to an article of the ./!ientittrbsset j0w . 4(41, of Ow week be'Ore I.ast, on Mr. urga..; , -(Here . Sturp' , ..' got u:s and iusisted on Mr. Shearmati hot alluding to the subject, but Mr. Shear man persisted most resolutely on going on.) It was not only of the 2irmingham 'Journal he complained. TIM 7 j 'inics and Wiandard, and other of the .Cory Oilers; lied, fór the l as t t h ree tears,, p~biishing articles of the most infamons airoci9ns nature, s s the Queen viiii6l(kiey Qua, insicnatect, a not §Wo, t-q , - * staA tt strumpet, the Court wa s a stew, and the Ni- I nisters were a filthy, infamous, seditious, traitorous set ; and 0 - let they had got up and abetted every out breirk and riot, and deserved the elevation of the scaffold. They had admitted into their columns letters from parties, urging the people to arm and driii, and put down by violence the authority of the Court— and now that the people had learned, add were prac tising the lessons which the brickbat reasoning Times had taught them, with the true spirit of what. Cobhett justiy called, " the Brood } o,d Times," they were now calling for the people's blood, and gloating over the ex pected least of a hanging day. If he had been the Attorney-General, he would have prosecuted the Times for every article of the kind he had mentioned, for the last three years—but, since he was not, he only hoped that such papers would henceforth never be permitted to enter the house of an honest man. The meeting was then addressed by Nlr. Hor .tio Cutler in an excellent speech, and was followed by Mr. Salt, Mr. Blatland, M.'. Porter, Mr. Small oad, Mr. Empson, and several others ; and the resolutions having ben earned, Mr. Eemouds was called to the Chair, and a vote of thanks was carried with acclamation to the Mayor, who returned thanks, and succeeded without any compromise of tither dignity, principle, or duty in s.o satisfactorily explaining his conduct as to call forth from the meeting the most enthusiastic applause. Never was there perhaps a more striking instance of the un certainty of popular resentment or app'ause. Mr. Mon:z called the meeting under circumstances which would have deterred most men. When he entered the hall he was received with the most discordant yeliing, and he re tired from it amidst applause. The multitude then dispersed in the most orderly manner. The troops and police were under orders all day, but the day and night passed off without a single breach of the peace. ARRIVAL OF THE SOLICITOR. GENERAL AT NEWARK. (From the Lincoln Gazette.) On Saturday, Mr. Sergeant Wilde, as her ilflrjesty's Solicitor- General, accompanied by M. D. Hill, Esq., one of her Majesty's Counsel, arrived in his carriage and tour at the Castle and Falcon. The news soon spread around, ,ind both blues and reds were quickly on the move. Congratulation upon congratulation awaited the Sergeant, .Lnd his frien.ls felt proud that at length justice had been 4:one to the talents of their Member, and that a proper mink of honour had been conferred upon them as a consti tuency. Every face was marked with a determination to buckle on the armour of warfare should it be required, and all telt that the battle was their own. In a few minutes the press was set to work, and an advertisement was quickly circulated. Sca - reely had the announcement been issued than the Red Committee assembled, and Thomas Spragging God frey, Esq., was requested to attend, and the offer of sup port was tendered, but by him judiciously refused. A messenger to E. V. P. Burnell, Esq., of Winkburne was despatched, but that failed. At tiao o'clock on Sunday morning Mr. 13ranston and Mr. Burnaby set out fur Lon don to the Carbon Club; and on Sunday forenoon the town was posted with the following pink handbill : " To THE ELECTORS OF NEWARK. -Mr. Sergeant Wilde having accepted the office of Solicitor-General, and there by vacated his seat for the borough, the electors are as sured that a Conservative candidate of high respectability and acquirements will on Monday offer himself, to solicit the electors' suffrages ; they are therefore particularly re quested not to promise their votes." In the course of Monday the Deputation to London re turned, having been successful in procuring Mr. Thesiger, Queen's Counst 1, as a candidate. The following judicious address was ssued in the afternoon : " Brother Electurs,—ls Newark to be again a close bo. rough ? Are the labours and sacrifices of ten years to go for nothing ? Are you to lose your friend and protector ? Is Newark to discard him because the Queen has chosen him ? Even Tories disclaim the insults, which at Canter bury and elsewhere have been showered on her Royal head. Until the Queen stamped your choice with her approbation, the To ies of Newark were satisfied with Ser jeant Wilde; the insult is, therefore, not to him, but to his Royal Mistre,s I Will Newark stand below Canterbury ? Never !! Electors, be active ! Be firm! and you must triumph."—AN ELECIOR. SPEECH OF THE SOLICITOR-GENERAL, MR. SERGEANT WILDE, TO HIS CONSTITU ENTS AT NEWARK. kiVENTING EDITION at tBll ,, / seectise parti e s, an d th e plan which had l subsisted ought not. to be disturbed. Our most restp.'oeir. able (ippon :es, an d among them I e illeene the late Tafleets, an open a n d an heir o urable foe, and al wa) , iare arduous an d an a b le ere . ,wa uric of the first to de'''_sd dist th e di v i s i on o f the representation was satisfac tor y , cught n o t t o b e disturbed. Has not England been dis gusted enough with the exercise of dictation in Nola .,se d nave net the rigtes of power and property been used rave not here, that it has passed into a bye-word H a ve rs. ) rigor to do what I w ill w i t h my own?"—(C twe Newark by her sufferings has aided the cause of R e form is the great question of Ballot is now afleat—(H ear) or y Newark destined to be th e means o f reforming i as . e tha o,t abuse ? Is this election to m an if es t t o a ll the wor ld there is no freedom without the B a ll o t ? I say it is b , escein vi 4 possble for them to defeat me in this election, tee exercise of unjustifiable coercion, and where men, re , be out er s,ible compiled to sacri fi ce their own feelings Bart} to the support of their families—it is as im P t he to remove me from Neeark, (True, , tr c u on i , mountains from the surface of ihe earth.—(True, it is to remove -0.1 But it is said by our opponents that this is to he of test of principle"—l say it is to be a contest of tva,7 t _ o f principle ; I am content to stand or fall on the questr i u nie Principle-_I ask no more. Is it a question of p a ri t l i c eg r e d that men should be coerced to give their vote. It a trust; as an argument against the Ballot 'hat the vote is secs et I agree with it. It is said that if a man votes in 5 9 , , and r his neighbours cannot see how he exercises that 0 "_",„ he may be eiduced to give his vote for base or on hatriil purposes. I agree that on principle every man who I trust for public purposes, should exercise it openlY , f t h e lament in the ,:xtrerne that the honest exe rei ' e 'j ived tru,t should need protection, because it is not porn; h i s that a man should enjoy his own judgment an; On own feelings, but is oppressed on their account ; sr this account is it insisted that the Ballot is ne eess v i. To those who say, this is to be a contest of P o r e l ding plc," I reply, " Will you let your men vote ace w h o ts, their principles and their consciences ?" drive away every temptation from them, except that little is bound up in the welfare of their wives and th eir but ones—men who for them se l ves cou ld bear anythi n g' so . cannot suffer their families to be thstreesed. I cannot the coed on my canvass among these men, without see i i gthat tearful esc, without being met by the a ppreuensa they may be deprived of the means of s families, if they pledge themselves to me. To suppoS.ee England is to be deceived with representing this t he_, ent contest of principle," is most absurd ; I should be C o o n ni sn , to take it on those terms, to meet the contest ro 4 public principle that can be stated. Let ll l ' o t t a t that our opponents have formerly been s neees" t hat we have been beaten; indeed, we have been told wfl the Blues never should obtain a representative, Ye sists have had it, and so hopeless was the attempt at r ; teet , supporting t thatllcir ing you, that twice have I been returned as your her without opp pposition. It was supposed that this per sence of hostility arose out of generout an d Propeltb feelings, and a due respect f or the rights of oth er e s c i , a ed you were entitled to have y our opinions represe nt 'to ad felt that the representation had been placed . oo s° ea t nourable basis. But this contest gives a different asp it to the affair; the blues ar e no t permitted to rese lect be t r to representative, because the r e d s h ave not a l so a 31 1 1 ;seed choose ; when there were two votes to give, they 3 OW one vote, and permitted yo u t o g i ve t h e o ther, hot. that they claim your single vote, although the vacaini of yonr representative. Is this, then, to be the c ha h r e - a tea cte r of the contest? You who have been so often " d e ft, in former times well how that when they talk lou e so they have most occasion to despair. If they ar , ou d. confident of success, they have no call to talk so f t one If you mean to resign Newark into the hands ° or party—if you are to wait till the Carlton Club bliffeod•-' tied that the individual is eligible, well and b f you the cause is as much yours as it is mine ; but if mean to assert your independeuce, if you are " a nd mined not to be again disgraced, you must be u P n s of stirr•iug. I have no fear, no apprehension of the ext ' s ssa ye coercion talked of; I feel they are too ge nerous si „ . some few) and I dis m i ss the imputation w i t h c ontumely Without any caus e , f or upwards of a month, In a l r ° i l d n a y ment was talk e d o f, b ut i t was nut unt il l a te on • p . t and the app ointine last that I saw L or d Al e lb ouree, (which had b een d e l aye d on public grounds) was n r d ' e was then ready t o meet you face to face. Ido nrit real l y know what connect i on i t can have with the Matter, but , hear it has bee n c h arge d against me that I came a t nigh t in this instance, a s it all others, w h en I have felt it 0:YI duty to pre s e n t . m:; se lf before you, f ro m that women' d have let as fete nours pass as possible before I saw y ou, an i that I hay 2 done n o w. It was l ate on F r iday that presented m y se lf to rece i ve the appointment ; hY o'clock on S atur d ay morn i ng I had an address pante in London, ready to announce to you that by accepting office I had resigned the trust again into your haati I started at six o'clo c k by th e ra il way to Nottingham, a % I came from thence as fast as four horses would conv e ,„y me. It is a ; complaint against m e , I suppose , that I 8 " . such a stranger, I ought to have slept at the last stag e ! and presented mys e lf i n th e morn i ng, _ ( Laughter.) only came as fast as I c ould, I eavae near l y all the by " way steam, and I hope we shall get the st, am well up h ere. When I arrived, I delayed not, for within one hour n I Y address wss dissersed as widely as possible, I came as fast as I c o uld, and why should 1 have delay e d Do yo u think it would have been prudeat or resp e ctful that you t vh p io le l a y s o b u c h r a x d v.c elected foure ted and me should hav e l earn t f rom any other than myself that Ihad the va Court catedthe of s c a o t in orn ca o in the afternoon, in the discharge : of my duty, and eug" . ,, - have beee its my place age'est on Saturday morning; seyn absence would by ten o'clock have told every la w . Y f e m r e a l t of Solicitor . General, as fully as if St. Pile s Westminster-hall, that I had received the aOlieg n ` - b a d Buteg apsarwdeonarief bell en , from h my duty, and I never delay when duty " n i fF ig ; ne ver ab s 1 announced it. It is well known that lam ta m lk y in e g "n o i n ng th s i o s s f u a t t lect h , n let gi m veen g l'a-ne- n ne m e e e3 : t the manner in which my honourable opponent has tom As usual, there is a little mystery about the matte- t 'he sin Cot quite in the secret how the candidate and the constituency found each other out. Ido not inclvv fact, but it is reported and believed, that severa l g entle men have been dealt with, have been solicited, and gel, declined becoming candidate,. I know it not mY and I can no t vouch for it, but it is reported and lye it lieved, on ground s wor thy of credit, tha t sev eral we e n ; ago, they exp resse d a d eterm i nat i on to oppose me, yet it is a little singular that they should at last. have been taken by surprise, and missions were sent ° ll i the Lord knows w h ere , t o fi n d can did ates, w h o m I abt, not venture to nam e , an d to o ff er you as a present, but t"'" gentlemen declined. I should very much like to know when it was first that my Learned Friend Mr. Thesige r ' who is not like me so quick in his movement ' , heard of invitetion to offer himself. O n S un d ay after dinner—and it is „thought also, on Sunday before dinner —certain absences from church were noticed, which, however 110' justly or not I am not prepared to determine, were attri butedioLt ne a as s r e nu a tn, t dd a i Fy n r in P ei ng a d r h l t i , a w m i af no o t fiirseta I r sl syebeoonun Mindt iekle. to err an d s o f canvass i ng, not for a seat in church, s day t know f n what n i f e ig,my to hoursoli solicit a seat in Parliament I shoul d Jik° to know what hour r they were scamp er i ng h ere all night, and yet my Learn ed riend compl a i ns o f t h e speediness of my Learned motions' —(Laughter.) There is a striking difference in th e nature of our appearing here ; it is, urged against 0 7 that lam n o t i n d ependent. On what rou nds I s that charge mad e ? H ave I ever supported the vernment in opposition to any opinion of my O Z I / 1 or :for which I was chosen ?—(No, no.) will I ever do so. The office which I have the honour t o be appointed to i fill, is not one of profit to me •in my pro fession I have, abundance of ' • h I Si t ' occupation, for w better pai'' than • in the service of the Crown ; the ofF,ce ea?oh:anent to me, but I value it highly, as an exp.:easion° ciliation i n regar d to my conduct both in Parliame.atand out. lave expressed my approbation of the conduct of the that u le, gran vestment on p u bli c grounds, it was on ht . rounds , the situation was off e r e d to me, and in no other manner have I accept e d it. B ut h ow stands my Hon. ° PP "elitl he has no connection at Newark—l come to deliver it, lie has come to enslave it again.....“ Cheers.) • / " . , - ,t respectable gentleman, Mr. Gladstone, retains his Sc .'" ? as the red member for Newark, why claim a s econd so,' Son,e have said, why do you have Members of oppos it e opinions arid voting different ways ? But there is Sir Rober end to the inconsistency of some people. Peel Las answered them, by mg' in lavour even " g irt to much snialler places than Newer that there be two representatives, and the opinions of the tni"riti where th ere are t wo parties, also ought to be repr esentee. —( Hear, hear.) I s h a ll stand up for your sights , gar; tr ust again to go baste to Parliament. —(Cheers.) IT•e Q l een has affirmed you r c h o i ce of me, I ask if you'. will that of the C rown by choesing me again. The day • s ' a trust, far distant, though our opponents ti, op ,• it is at hall; when New ar k s h e ll b e converted into -a nowt! ation boroeg„ of the C ar l ton Cl ub; on S uedes a it, rniu the !..abitaers fr o are requested not to promise the . er votes till they t-a• ' the Cerhen Club, arid oe M li t tle is nclay orning, as . w ie ld known, but the electors , n ee still requests .d to wit this Club t•erne their votes tie tnea 151 1()111 the Carlton • t his tit to send them • - e , • ,d yet you btold tha t - are. to c btu a "contest of • ptil ogle." m Tb •,r. r band-bill, hair r. ese, by isaoit himself to assume t hat Y takeig, office, I lia arproved all that toe Miiii-t y done preciously. „ o ast t, even where I have voted a ll _, tam? Doesh e come here to approve of all the tur lab . out, the oppre B "nti, and the coercion that has been r ic o / tied, and to adopt them as his own ? With much more truth co I hay I say, that his association makes him adopt they' adopted there measures d of Government, an • petre e l , them, which I d eeme d t o b e cons i s tent ; halt ;. pport th e i r future measures which I may deem o°sl s.itent; but also I s h a ll not a d opt t h ose which mach do nut deem t o b e cons i stent. I c l a i m as muc"‘,"; depvtiden ce i n every great principle as I have ever done in my: life ; and should I find my offi 1 ee inconsistent with th ose views, I shall resign it without hesitati on . I t i s now for you to judge w h e ther deserve a renewal of that confidence I have soli' cited at yo ur h an d s ; as f ar as t hi s d ay ' s ca nvas h as gone, I see no more pretence for their loud ta lking then on f ormer occasions; but it is not for me, it is,_ . f° ;i you to carry th e e l ect i on . If you e l ect me ag ain, I an s act , independ e n t ly ; if my H onoura bl e op p onen t is chosen, lit :s only the nominee of a party, having no pretension s to vote against anything that his patrons may approve. Ie the year 1829, what was it that brought us first ac q (tainted ? 411 Honourable Gentleman, the nominee of the Duke of Nee castle and the reds, desired to vote on 31 , great public ques ti on ac cording to his own conscience, an d they desired Isim to turn out ; the first intimation that you had of this was the presence of Mr. Saddler, to become your eepresentative—l beg pardon—as their nominee. No sooner was the Duke's relative called upon to resign , than he did resign—and is that independence? while I am chosen independent, and would maintain your inde pendeace against such dictation. Whatever may be the the merits of my Honourable opponent, you say that Ihave . - . never neglected your interests, then I have proved m ys elf by feet and in prectice, while he has only his professions to plead. Judge inc fairly and candidly, I claim net to be %vithr.ut imperfection, for that is not in the lot ' MONDAY, Nov. 25, 1839. It having been announced that at the conclusion of this day's canvass, Mr. Sergeant Wilde, the new Solicitor- General, would address the electors publicly from the balcony of the Castle and Falcon Inn, a very considerable number had assembled. Shortly before five o'clock, his eppearance was most loudly greeted, and when silence was obtained, be addressed them as follows : " Gentlemen—l now appear before you for the eighth time to solicit your suffrages as a candidate for the honour of representing you in Parliament. When first I was by your choice elected Member for this borough, I was then only a man of professions; but I trust I now stand before you in a different character, [laving had the honour of serving you in three distinct Parliaments. You have now known the tor ten years, and before I again solicit to be entrusted watt your service, I must render you an account of those talents which have been committed to my keeping ; if they have been buried, or hove been unprofitably used, or what is still worse, if they have been abused, then I am no longer worthy of your countenance arid support, but I shall justly be subject to sour censure and your dismissal. I trust,how ever. that I appear before you in a totally difft , ront cheeaC ter, that I may look you all in the face with confidence and with boldness, that the little which has been committed to my charge has been duly improved, and that I may safely esk for your coutidence still more. Goiniernen, 1 app at before you not un:y as your repieseroative, but also one who has been nominated .0 office under the Cruell—l have teen notnutated by her most Gracious Majesty the Queen as Solicitor-General, —(A voice in the crowd, " God bless her.") Gentlemen, I echo that " God bless her," with all my heart.—(Loud cheers.) It is fit that I should ac. count to you as to the manner in which I have been ap. pointed to that office, for office is not always attained by fair and honourable means; but I approach it without tear, for I have courted no man, I have hawed to no Go vernment, I have pursued an open and independent course in Parliament.—(" You have.") You sent • me to the House of Commons accredited by your opinion that I was competent to render the public some service; it is now for you to judge how far I am justified in accepting office upon such recommendation. Without the patronage of a ingle friend, without influence at Court or with the Government, the office has been conferred on me, not by the voice of the Ministry alone, but by the alm ost unan i mous o pi n i on of the of of London, incl u di ng M em b ers o f b ot h sides the City Houses in Parliament. You could not fail to have heard during the last month, the statements that had been made in various quarters of my having been appointed Solicitor. General, for which there was not then the slightest foun dation, and this was said not only by men connected with the Government, but aleo by those who deem it their duty to oppose them, by the Tories, or Conser vatives as they now choose to call themselves. They were loudest in their acelainetions for my appoiettoe . at„ and they said how mean and disgraceful would be the conduct of the Government, if they were deterred from appointing me, through fear of losing my seat for Newat it, Gentlemen, the sole foundation of that report then was the universal opinion that by the Course I hid pursued, it wes a matter of duty on the part or the !. Government, and for the public benefit, that I ehould be so • appointed; you, gentlemen, in the first instance, gave me the sanction of your opinion in my favour, and her ftldjesty's Government have confirmed your choice. I have said that office is not always attained by honourable means, but yet how could the Government be parried on, if rues of the sane opinions as themselves, and returned by oon , tituenc.es eeterteinieg the same opinions, were to flinch front the post of respossibility and of duty. But lam not the only new officer of the Government, there are others of the most Liberal opinions; the principles which they will advocate will not be retrograde, and I take otfice as no changeling in politics, but ready to maintain every principle which I have previously adveceted. You know that when I first had the honour of appearing amongst you, Newark was a nomination borough, its wieert a large proportion of the el, ctors were insulted, and the ground was proudly held by those whose views were Utica-. sive to a very large body of the inhabitants. I came not among you under the patronage of any great man, I did not come as the nominee of any party, but I came in the cause of the 'people. To you I appealed, I tendered to you tee mead of my humble assistance to redesm you from that thraldom in which I found you, you accepted my services, and you know that ultimately victoty was ours; a victory that was not limited in its effects, but which resounded from one end of the kingdom to the other, and one which had a material influence in the cause of It, fora; througn nut the kingdom generally. After an arduous slruggle, in which we have been etteaged together fo r yedt6, we we Y., NUCC(!;i6IUi. But row it tinter! effuse.; te Le asia unities~, i f vial are to return again to those sieve ot ge, it le of I.ttie conse q uence weelhee you coneS unctur the eotnrol of one iud:viduel oe of a few. The question is, see you now to be deprived of that share 111 the representation, ishich you h ave atta i ne d, an d b e degrad e d aga i n into the character of a norrsinattetn rough ? I stated that when you first elooleel me , y ou knew me only by my professions ; now that I have been in your service, have I forfeited the claim to your es. teem or approbation of my constituents, that ther e i s no public ewse fp- o , ?---(No, no.) I can state, in the vo ce which I have shrunk, there is no local interest ea. indivi dual claim on which I have not emintked P7',th a willing and industrious hand.—(Cheers,) I 'Seise now been re turned at two electiene witheue opposition, and I boldly ask whether there itt any nno, red or blue, high or low, licit or foe wll- o ,, i i I cou ld disch arge t h e duties of eepresentative, or efferd the assistanc e an d advice of a friend, t h at has ever been denied ? Th ere may some Ilia dozen of letters, have escaped my individual attention, give the most reseect rtteedntioton which it was my but ley the empl o yment of other persons to aid me, i4aly..e and 41w4iymstzdndiaetaeraua pgwer to bestow and to procure. Let us note House in the feed from private services to ley House of Commons. That I have been called to office, and the manner in which it has been done, shows how I have disebargei my duties there. I would ask, have I en,sgraced the name of Newark in any one act as her re- Fe'tentati v e ?—(" N o , no.") It is always painful to have to speak of one's self, but ees3essity requires it. I n fees'ierg,s, that I feel called upon; urn so far vain of my ow has done eo discredit to Newaele. If, then, oc9.l.:iu4iiication, my character in the House i tc : or e i (s ti y 7r i '7inc'mtl4iye discharge of vale intercourse with emy [JOU; duty, nor in my pri , c•Aigituents Ivan be charged with negligence, on vet my ' - d is • • stirred ? . grout') this opposition. up sot semembe I h h ; a the bitter , em em ber t heart--eurroge an i n s Mit existed before I Appeared amongst you, and secured your i ndependenese—e re these to be revived Now let us that mark th e s i ncerity of our opponents; they urged ;is the fovea cons i sted of two parties nearly evenly balanced, the Members ought to 1110 named by the re I man ; yet I will to the utmost of my power. do my best U) , r y e 3 ou. I can only express my heartfelt thanks for the kindness you have shown me on former occasions, and to i request a renewal on the present; lam de e ply sensible or -- ...................pwswein