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then his duty was done. Could not say Whether or not they had a trumpeter with them. A Juror said, if they were to have that kind of men sent befose them who ptevancated, they would never be able to get at the truth. In such cases he thought the Coroner ought to interfere. The Coroner denied that the witness had prevaricated. He had sworn to . particular facts—whether truly or falsely it was not for hith to say, and he could not make an individual swear to - one - thin,„7 or anoth'r. Several Jurors spoke in behalf of the witness, and some against him, and all at the same time. . Whe witness declared he did not know whether the party had a trumpeter with: them or not, and : that was sufficient. If an officer from his troop had gone, he should have known . it. He could not say ivho - was the . orderly Corporal of Lieu tenant Gore. He had two that week. One of, them fell sick; he knew that,as he saw another come .in his place. He did not know the names of the men who were ordered out from his troop on the 14th. If he were.to -,.make -inquiry he could get the names of the men, but he could not tell them at the moment; did not know who had the - names of the men; he was the only person who should have had them, but he had not got them. —(A laugh.) 7 ----After the confusion of the. day they were marched in, and_their names were not taken. If one of the:. men had deserted they sit ht not have iound it out till_ next day till the . roll was called.;. he , should not:then have known •v"-ihetber or - not the deserter was one of the party sent to Cumberland Gate. No book was kept that this:; . he bad nor stated Lite. ilumber of the 'detachment ; didrt - Ot *Se.e them go. lout a tall.;.whenlie had got them into the,yard his duty was done.- He would endeavour to get:the names . bf - Fritiay, if the Jury requested it; he would do his best. -announced by. the CORONII, that Mr.. -- x-Sheriff Parkins and his servant were .43 at - '..tendance to give . evidence. Some conversation took place-as to which-should be first examined. she ,Coroner thought it due to the forins of so, Ciety tO,examine.the master (unless the contrary:, was his wish) before -the servant. The Jury ac quiesced in this, and the man 'who had been in troduced retired to - make way for the Ex-Sheriff.. Joseph_Wilfred Parkins examined.—Liies at NO. - 10, Bridge-street, Blackfriars; was latelY Sheriff of London. AS the Jury had taken evi 7 .- dente of the whole ofwhat had' passed from the' commencement of the funeral procession, ,he WoOld follow the same routine. He then gave the following. narrative;—" On the morning of that day (the 14th) I proceeded from my. Ow n. - dence with my servant, overAtieStminster Bridge, and to the Horse Guards. Arrived 0 Hyde . Park-corner ; while -passing through the gate of the Park I saw a man in a black cloak. He in formed me- that the funeral .procession..would commence at Brandenburgh House, where I pro ceeded Without seeing:_ any one "till I *arrived at Hamineritnitly who, was apparently connected *with the funeral . . I waited, a short time near the, dopr of Brandenburgh_llouse. There was a con siderable:' disturbance relative to putting.. the . corpse intothehearse ; ,the soldiers came at .that timetothe door. of:Rrandenburgh House." .J . T'A'Juryrnan.coneeivedthese details to be irrelevant. It had • hien ruled fiti some days past that they were to receive no eVi - - denee of what.had passed at Brandenbargh ',House. -Mr. - Parkins—That doeS not matter; Liu , evidence must lie, taken as it is. :The Coroner-Said they were not aware that any thing con-. IPicted 'with the.present inquiry . had Occurred till the procession' Kensington Church. ' Mr. Parkins complained that the juryman who had spoken inte=a;pted - This; ea a Juryman ' he had no right to do. They Must hear.what lie - had tO say, as he wished to tell it. - - The Juryinanlsaid they were willing to hear any thing- rela tiVeto the matter at-issue. -- • • * • . . . Mr. Parkins said the Jury did not know Any thing about the' evidence which he had to give. Ile. had experienced a rude interruption. Such conduct rendered the Jury likely to be disc solved,.an&then they would Nye .all their trouble over again. The extraordinary licence , taken by 'some Jurymen, was in tclerable. The Juryman remarked, he bad only pointed out the necessity olcbservingthe rule which had been established. . 11. Zr. Parkins said their rules ware notlingto hum. , —Re're some of the Jury seemed displeased.— Other.s.were -of opiciion that no harm was meant, and thi§ldea' gaining ground, he was allolypd to . ..proceed'in his own way., - whiCh he did-as follows When that . .was done the_procession . proceeded', aild, followed-by the -Oxford Blues,. moved on. with great solemnity and order, until they ar rived within Kensington turnpike-gate between that and the church ; an interruption then took place ; afte'r stopping-some time (it' rained very proposed to:00--Hon,Mr. Bennett and Mr. hothouse, who *as riding. neXt - tne, to proceed _ forward - to inquire - the-cause of:the stoppage, and when 1 - arrived at..(lie:Church,or - Church4ane, thj9k, they it, .1- fOund the. place stopped up witls dui; •and a.greatdconcourSe. - • - .oftpt , -9ite standing upon them, and round (hem, wtd-"Cheered,rne,-and--exclaimed that they would ,thip - tigh- the :City- - ; - I rebuked then - for sn N - and cautioned them against making a turbanee at the funeral ion turning back, a man .-; ;• of -the tnanne:of ViPir,-Who"had Placed himself at . the bead.of a troop cavalry, made himself very busy in pointing ,out to; the officer corn . manfing , what.._WaS his tine ddlity';';the officer. at troops reconsTried stationary; .Lord- Hood' : "beiig,. very hear,- Spoke- te t.•iin the :impediment : Or'Obtruction 'tO -the futieral and-A-, was • geSted by him- or myself i , to send someone down to Lord Liverpool,. to - communicate to him _the inctual state of the'affair,- and the total impossi bility of getting. through Church-lane ; ,and . I. tic as requested - to bear that information td-Lord • • •Lii - erpool, others refusing to do so ; a gentles-pm,. . . offdring to accompany me, I set off with him,. - • my servant following me at full speed ; when • we arrived at the Park-gate, the man. in 'the ' charge of the gate said, he was ordered- - not 4 admit any one connected with the procession.; - said I was going on particular business to 'Lord, Liverpool, and he must-let me through, on. which he complied ; I proceeded with: the. same rapi- . dity. till I arrived at the Horse Guards, by the." Park; a little distance within the Horse Guards,. I met- Sir R. Baker with a roll of . paper: - in his hand, on a cavalry horse, with two cavalry soli diers, one on each side of him ; I did not stop to speak to him, but went to the Home. Department first. Mr: Ilobliouse sent me word that he was going to Fife house directly; I proceeded be fore to Lord Liverpool's, where I met Mr. Wil mot, who, I think, said that Lord Liverpool was not within ; I then informed him (he knew who I was well) that I had come from Kensing ton Church, where the funeral processions was totally stopped, and that it was morally impos sible to proceed through Church-lane; and that if they did persist in going that way, many ,lives would inevitably be lost, anti that those who persisted in it would have to answer for the same. Mr.:Wilmot said he would communicate that information to Ltird LiverpOol. The gen tleman who accompanied me retired, and I mounted my horse and returned as fast as I could; passing through the Horse Guards again, a troop of the Life Guards (at least I suppose a troop, was drawn-out, the y ar d b e i ng qu ite f u ll on both sides), was out, and three of the officers were in - the gateway, and I. was obliged to request them to let me pass. • • Here Mr. Parkins said this might appear te dious, but it would he-found of great importance. A - Juryman expressed his Conviction that the witness would not trifle with their time. Mr. Parkins assured them that he would not. They wanted information, and they ought' to have it. Mdch of their time had been consumed ''by - witnesses whose evidence was not of impor , . -tame; this he regretted. He then resumed. " I then proceeded to Kensington ; there I found .the procession had gone •on ; I then turn ed, and went throng,h. the barracks at Knights bridge, and_oyertook the procession, or the rear .part of it, at,the turnpikegate, where. sprat de;-' lay took .place but I did not : proceed for . ward to see the cause of '_that delay ; and, after a short the •hearse - turned , round and Went 11trinigh the 'Park gate, and 1., followed it, and Vroceeded• along with the prOcession=that is, followed the hearse. SIX or eight hose `guards were drawn lip on each side 'of 'the Park-gate. Nothing- material occurred till it arrivid near to Cumberland-gate, when an - interruption to the procession was met with, and I proceeded forward to ascertainlhe cause-of it, ac companied by another gentleman. The first thing that attracted - my notice near the gate was a man -of the name of Goold, who was making use of very violent language, urging the soldiers:to do what he called " their_ duty," by fo - rcing the gate. I proceeded .past him nearer to the gate, when 1-sasv one half of it shut, and the soldiers attempting to get it open: A -soldier, Ido not know whether of the Blues or the-llorse Guards, had fallen from his horse at this time—had slipped from his horSe and , rather obstructed the way. As soon as he was removed the passage was free, and we all went through. Passing through the gate, _ I perceived a pool of -blood and water mixed. time I was standing at the gates I heard horrible screams and yells, and the most abusive language towards the soldiers. I then went on, took a position at the corner of Cumberland-street, on the left hand side, close by the corner house on the left hand towards Oxford-street, waiting _ for the hearse to come through, not knowing which way it was to turn ; and when it came th r ough, and . wa s not clear of the gate, I being in front . , could-see that a postil lion , and coachman inclined to draw their reins towards Oxford-street—towards St, Giles's. At this" time a man; you may call. him a gentleman if you please,-. who was dressed _much like "Sir Robert Baker, in coloured clothes and mounted - on a charmer, came with - two or three troopers in full sped. - _ 1 _ • • The CORONER inquired if the witness knew Sir Robert - Bilker ? Mr. PARKINS said,_" . . 'Very . well, indeed, and I had much approved of the conduct of Sir Robert on that occasion. He went on ; the gen- - tle.inart I have mentioned . galloped up to the' leading horses of the hearse, and knocked down a man who appeared to me to be one of the Un dertaker's men, and seized the . rein of the lead ing horse; either the gentleman . or one of the troopers, but I won't swear that _it was not him 'self. The horse reared up and -pearly fell !backWards. Much altercation took place be tween the coaarnan,_ the. postillion, and the 'party. At this time great . .cidaptities of stones Were throWn. These Were the first I had seen thrown, and. they 'fled over the corner of the wall in Park-lane; and many of the stones fell near _me, Who, was standing - at the - corner of .Ctimberland-street. At this time saw a sol "dier, a Guardsman or Blue, I do not know which, pursue a man With a flag inAlts hands, a whitish flag, and _cut him down'. I saw the man rise again, and seize his flag. The screams and yells at this time were truly horrible ; the stones were 'flying in - showers,' all of which came towards Cinnberland-street—tOwards where I was stand ing. None went from that part, but all came to it. The parties must have been near the houses in Park-line ; at - this time I heard- a dreadful noise :Mt 'the inside of 'the Park- more particularly. CC:Fining 'towards the railing:- again,- I saw the `people trying Co pull them down-to get into . the gtreet ;. by this time the hearse had proceeded into- the Edgware-road ; -the -Gentleman in coloured clothes on horseback,- and- the troopers ''Vs-.it -him leading it • on ; I: then- proceeded from my po . :,itiorf . at the corner of Cumberland-street .and came' to ',the corner of Bilinstetne-stret, accompanied .; by a, gentleman on horseback ;" we , had n-ot been . at the • corner of this street one ,winute before a' volley of shot Were fired near the turopike-gate, by the troopers, all. in a mass; that.was the first shot I heard'fired. I remarked 'to-my friend, - 6 ‘ What is the meaning of this ?" „Some one said that they were firing blank Car... , tridge; two. or three of. the troopers came frOm ,the body and with;o ten yards of the end of this :street and began to load their pistols : one - of ,the soldiers let his ammunition fall ; I _picked it up-1 -it• proved to be ball-Cartridge ; he then ,loarled his.pistol, and levelled his pistol arm to wards me.;_he looked, towards me very indig nantly; I called out tohinf that there was no occasion for him to fire in that direction, as no one was -offeriner him any molestation ; he -pro ceeded on with the. other soldiers; I then said to my friend, " go away -from this; I came to a funeral, not a fight." .A.t this time the coach came -passing in which were Lady -Hamilton and Lady Hood ; Lady Hamilton called to me in very great alarm, telling me a man had been shot near her Carriage.—[The latter part of the sentence was here objected to as not evidence. After some conversation of no importance, the witness resumed.] —I beg to observe that much provocation was given by throwing stones and other missiles"; I conceive it was done by a num ber of fellows for the purpose of raising a dis turbance. Examined by a Juror—The man I saw cut with the sword got up immediately, and endeavoured to grapple with the By another Juror—The Centlemamj saw in coloured clothes, and whom I believed to be a lagistrateNs t dblJtiel Cavendish. I begged him not to be rash: I did not then know he was Co lonel Cavendish. Here the witness spoke with so much rapidity upon what he thought, that the Coroner stopped him, and reminded him that he was to speak:only of what he knew. The Colonel rode up to the hearse at Cumberland-gate. I know it is Colonel Cavendish, because I saw him afterwards in regimentals at the barracks^: A gentleman named Clarke then told me it was Colonel Chvendial: Mr. Hanson here rase,' _and begged the witness to be calf tinus; it was a fact*that Colonel Cavendish was not out of the barracks on the day in queition. Witness iesumed—l • can only say that he was pointed out to me as Colonel Cavendish. By Mr.. Hanson—At the time I arrived at Cumberland-gate I saw stones throwing, - -- ,The distance from Tyburn-turnpike to Bryanston-street should think, 100 yards. The first firing I heard was when I was' at the corner of Brycnston street. I was about two minutes going from Tyburn turnpike to Blyanston-street. Perhaps Three minutes. I was then thinking, of going away, but I thought it better not. I cer. tainly saw the soldiers struck very severely at the time of the , - . By a Juror—l know Nr. Gould, he is a shopkeeper, he was urging the soldiers l i o tt : l acts of intemperance ; I m u st sa y t he sodiers beliavd w think it right to info, gr At thamtP t e l l: e ar v .c i e ol and -forbearance ; I rather by a pardel ;of pickpockets than . by en the e -p w o a Pu co la m ce th e i e t n t ?- rally: . .. ~. : . - . ~ ll'y tke Coroner—Of course the soldiers could not distinguish these. These fellows most cruelly pelted the - soldiers ; I did not see a single decent looking person throw a stone. About Cumberland-gate I cannot - say how many persons were ,as sembled. ..._ [Mr. Parkins continued speaking With so much rapidity, that -it was' iMPOssible - tcrkeep up with him.] . . Questio:n by a Juren--I really shouldlike to collect your opi nion on the whole, as.'to the conduct of the soldiers ? . - • ' [This*juestion was objected to, and was not pressed.] Ex pined by Mr. Hanson—l certainly d o n o t pretend tO have seen what other people could not see. The evidence of this witness Was now read over to hiin. In the course bf the -reading-he took occasion' to observe that he had been grossly _libelled by several Newspapers respectirz his conduct in.this business, and that he was determined to uotice• those libeli in a way which would prove very unpleasant to their publishers: The Coroner at length succeeded in persuad ing. ii r. Parkins to be silent. When his evidence thus far had been read over to him, the following additional examination took - place Ity the Coroner—The soldier who loaded. in my presence kept his arm extended as if looking for an object ; he ap peared to have, been very ill treated ; I mean he looked agi tated. I saw no Magistrate or Police officer, even at Ken= sington. . . _ • _ A Juror—Pray don't.go back again to kensington; we have had enough of it ; it's now nine o'clock. The Ju - ror Who' had-fornierly put the question as to the wit; ness's.opinion of the conduct of the soldiers, now repeated the question, but it was objected to, and withdrawn. Mr. Parkins then signed his deposition, and requested' that the examination of hiS servant might be immediately taken, as he was going out of town. The Jury said they had no objection, provided the witness would begin his narrative at Cumberland-gate, or arrive at it as soon as possible. A Juror here complained of the non-attendance of a neigh bour of his, who had been summoned and had not attended., The Coroner order-_d' that he should be served with a second summons. John Hon was then called in and sworn. He deposed as follows : 7 --" I am servant to Mr. Parkins ;,,I was in the procession on the day of the .Queen's :funeral. The first thing I saw. at Cumberland-gate, was the throwing of stones, at soldiers, by the people ; the soldiers gallopped about and cut at the people with their swords'. I saw the hearse go through the gate ; the people wanted to- turn it up Oxford-street ; they laid holtl of the "reigns of the horses ; the postillion then endeavotired to go that ; - the horses went over' the People ; I saw a man thrown down by a - soldier's horse, but he got up again ; I don't know whether he was hurtor not ; I heard firing at the Toll-gate ; we . then went to Bryan ston-street; I saw -a soldier loading his pistol; no stones were then thrown in 13ryanston-street that I saw I: thought the soldier appeared alarmed ; I did:- not see him ill-used ; I was struck on the back by a brickbat hear Camber land-gate ; . I ' don't know who threw it. A Jurorl—lt might have been a soldier, for aught you-know:- Examined by another Juror.—The man I saw knocked down -had not any colours in his hand. Thomas Wheildon was the next witness,-His evidence was as- folloWs live at No.2:,llert ford-street,lilay-fair.• I am an apprentice to a coach carver (Mi. Jacobs) ;'h accompanied the procesSion froni the. barracks at Knightsbridge, through the- Park: to'Curnberfand-gate ; I saw nothing - particular until we came to Cumberland gate ; 1 .- arrived:there before the hearse. The people, -I found, had • shut .the gates--; -the soldiers attempted- to . 'open 'the -..gates, but did not suc ceed ; they attem=pted a' second time,. and sue ceeded in getting half of them open, and the' other half rernained'shut: The .soldiers 'finding they could not completely open : the gates., began cutting the peoplewith their swords; I saw one Man cut on . the - iiat. When they began . cut ting with their= swords, they were assailed by brickbats 'from all quarters. This was when the .bat..was cut ;,.1 did not see whe r titer the man . bled ; I, went through, and crossed to ttim — lleria:nd-Street. By that time the hearse. and a . part of - the procesSion had come: through, ; I was on fhe "opposite side of the way ; the people . dttenipted to turn the horses heads down 0 Xfad-street;•but did not succeed. There was a great ciitittision . between the soldiery and the people ; - and brickbats were continually 'thrown; the& passed into - Cumberland-street; 'when half way up, -heard the- firing of pistols ; "returned,- and-found that by that time the pro, cession wasr•moVing down Edgware-road. When 1 was. at the corner of Cumberland-street and . Oxford-street, I saw the. people carrying away a man who bad been shot. I do not know- by whom.. . , By a-Juror---I do not knOw who opened the . gates, whether the.soldiers or the people. By Mr.. Hanson.-- - --The gate was shut twice ; I mean it was half-opened. The soldiers could not get it.completely open. Up to the time when went up to Cumberland-street brick-bats were thrown; but not continually. I heard the firing just before I got .to -Seymour-street. The time from my entry into. Cumberland-street might be about four or five: minutes. . By a Juror.—The soldiers began clearing away the people before any stones were thrown. The evidence of this witness : being concluded, the Inquest, at a quarter before ten o'clock, was adjourned until Friday next, at two o'clock. rtEDVCTIO OF SALAftIES. COPY OF A 11iE3101ITAL TO SHE LORDS OF THE TREASURY - . . ON THE SUEJECT OF THE PROPOSED REDUCTIOI.! IN THE SALARIES OF THE S RETARIES 'AND CIIMINiIVIc PEA ; LIC • . TOAtI4.-Right honourable rds jesty's Treasury. The humble Memorial of the undersigned Persons holding Offices in the several Public Civil Establishments, men tioned against their respective names-- SuLwETH—That your Memorialists have been employed,, in the Civil ...Service of the public, for, various periods extending from 5 to upwards of 40 years past, and the salaries to which they have become entitled; and now enjoy, hi respect of their past and continuing services, conformably with the establiihed • regulations of their respective departments, as shewn in the an nexed statements, amount only to 901 7 per ann. in the cases of the Junior Clerks, proportionally increasing according to the rank and length of service of the individnal, but in no case ex ceeding the sum of 9501. per annum ; and-on an average of those received by such'of your Illernorialistses have been in the public service upwards-of 20 years, not exceeding 4251. per annum. That your Memorialists have learned with Much sorrow and alarm, that it is in contemplation to reciliCethe scales of salary • now allowed to the civil establishments of the country, in con ' Sequenee.of the alleged increased value of the currency in which they are paid sioce e thoifF scales were foemed and adopted, and the necessity of TeclUding the amount of . the National Ex- penditiire. • . That your Memorialists, in apprehension of the embarras - ments which the execution of this measure will produce fo them and their families, and conceiving that the justice and policy of . it may be lost'sight of, in the anxiety of your Lordships to ef fect retrenchments in all mattets of charge on the public Fie nances, beg leave most reepectfully to offer the: following obser vations to the consideration of your Lordships That having due regard to the class Of persons who are com petent totlie performance of the public busiiieSs, and to the de gree of responsibility which attaches to many of the situations held by your Memorialists, who are , entrusted with the transac tion of important State business, and with the immediate super intenda..nce of the principal biandies of the public revenues; and the expenditure thereof; and upon wheie -faithful and diligent' discharge of. their respective duties; -a, beneficial and ecb nomical- administration of the effairs, of the country greatly depends ; your Memorialists submit that the compensation al lowed for those services has always been not merely inadequate, but below the rate of remuneration at which the ordinary servi ces of clerks in the offices and counting-houses of private indi viluelsare obtained,_ and, generally, much less than is afforded in the public commercial estahliSlimentS; and that there is scarcely a line of business or profession, in which, from their • rank in life and CdUcation e the persons-toklirig - clerkships in pub lic offiess might otherwise have been engeged, which would not afford a more liberal and certain recompence for the like de votion of their time and talents, than they can ever hope to obtain in the public. service. That in this profession alone; the ultimate acquisition of a competent -fortune is absolutely hopeless :—That after toiling from day to day throughout a period of 20.0 r 39 years, and often moch longer, at a seden tary occupation destructive of health, the annexed statement of your Merndrialists' salaries, shews that a 'clerk in a public office may esteem himself fortunate . if he . shall then have at- • tained to a situation yielding a salary sufficient to defray the cosh of .subsisting_ e small family in the . Metropolis, and, un lass he .bat private fortune for his maintenance, that he must . !::pect to sink under the - pecuniary difficulties - whieli the inadee :quacy of the stated salaries during the earlier years of service will produce ; —that it is only -- whme the best portion of his life has been consumed, that he may hope to be able to ap propriate a portion of his official income to the securing some slender prOvision for his fafnily" after his decease, by .iirrance or accumulation ; and that, .from the .slow - progression in which die. can advance tatleeligher situations of his office,—especially where the, class* are numerously occupied —even this hope cannot alway's he indulged, to what ever period oflife his-official labours may be tontinued.' That the.principle on which the propriety of a general reduc tion of. public salaries is chiefly_ urged, not consistent with faCts, nor applicable to the circumstances of the case; for it is assumed that the power of the present currency in the purchase of all necessary articles of ~subsistence; is increased froin 20 to 25 per cent. above thenuriency in which they were paid during the late war, and that the salaries having been increased to their present amount, to meet the amount of the depreciation of the currency during the war, they ought 'now to - be restored to their forniei amounts. Whereas, your •MemorialiSts would call to your Lordships', recollection _the • fact, ..that the salaries in publid offices never were augmented on.. any ,principle•-of coun tervailing the temporary alterations which. occurred in the value of the currency; biit that it the 'diffeetnt periods when the salaries of the several establishments were revised (and not till after the clerks had long been expoeed-to e almost insupport able difficulties, broughton them hy the operation of a two-fold depreciation in the real value of money, as Well as of the cur rency on salaries, preViouSly Very iiiiidequa.fe) reference was had • only ••to that permanent depreciatiofi in the:is:due - of money which had - been produced several years before; that a considerable proportion of the augmentation .was granted in lieu of fees and other contingent Advantages theretofore enjoyed by the holders Of Offices; and then entirely abolished ; and that the expencei 'attending- a residence and subsietenCe in London, comprising the several indiepensible items of rent, taxes., fuel e elothing, and provisious s are net diminished in a degree to produce the effect of.converting a moderate into an excessive stipend. That your Memorialists have naturally considered the schemes of Service and scale's of salary offiCially sanctioned for their re spective departments, as the terms of -their engagement in the public service, and which would not be afterwards varied or al tered to their prejudice ; and therefore, although their present comparative unfitness to engage in __new professions, and the greater difficuldes they would have to surmount in the prose eution of them at advanced peiiods of their lives, andafter de voting their best years of exertion to the public service, would impose on them the necessity of submitting to any new arranee meets to be prescribed for their . ccintineince in that service,. havitig the effect of rendering the remuneration they receive still more inadequate, both prospectively and retrospectively, yet they humbly_ trust, that upon a more mature consideration of the i subject in all its bearings, they shall be relieved from their present apprehensions of an infraction of the understood terms of their engagements. That your Memorialists would humbly suggest,. that in all cases where no contingent advantages of rank or emolument ac crue, to compensate the inadequacy of a stated rate of pay or stipend,. it can be only reasonable to allow to persons daily and permanently employed in the execution of the public business such remuneration and -encouragement as the like services would receive from private individuals, and that, as the due execution of much of the public business of every public, department must depend on the practical knowledge of those who are entrusted With it, and which can alone be acquired' by a long probation through the subordinate situations, and as those situations affbrd none of the collateral anszantages which other professions afford in respect of public consideration, it may be a question whether respectable persons, qualified to fill such offices " would be induced hi ac'c'ept them, if the terms of service w6- ,1 _,,t0 be so A. re gulated to ‘ preslude all extation, that they might either immediately or ultimately obtain such a compensation for their services, as the application of their time and talents to other pursuits would certainly insure them; in which event, the pub lic departments would probably again become occupied by ne cessitous and unqualified persons, having no other object than to avail themselves of a temporary means of employment, care less of the petinarzent interests of the public, and always readY to sacrifice them to their:own ;: reviving all the'abdses, and re newing all the malversations, with which many of the public departments Were formerly justly reproached, and which it was found so difficult to correct when the necessity and policy of s more liberal system of administration towards subordinate pub lic'officers was recognised by the Government. ' That upon these grounds your Memorialists earnestly depre cate any general alteration or reduction in the scales of salary allowed for their respective departments, inasmuch as they fce l assured it will be found that, measured as the means of sub sistence in London, and with reference to the present value of the currency, and haying regard to the nature and value of their' services, the ratio of compensation is below what is usually ° l2)- twined in priFate establishments, regulated and limited as it %s by the most extensive competition. - That in presuming to lay-these representations and sugges tions befoiv your Lordships, your Memorialists beg leave tq state,-that they are not actuated by any desire to impede the execution of such measures of retrenchment and econorl his Majesty's Government shall determine that .the exigencies and interests of the country require; but as they will be the immediate sufferers by the adoption of the particular rnee°: e which is the subject of this memorial, and entertain the oPin i°es of its injurious effects which they.have endeavoured to express, they should have held themselves culpable in abstaining fr ee ' submitting them to your Lordihipe consideration, and that hav ing put your Lordships in possession of these their humble le presentations, they will be-prepared to bow with dutiful sitb mission to your Lordship? matured decision thereon. • - • And your Memorialists will ever pray, &c- July 19, 1821. FOR 'FITE SUN. IJOLY ALLIANCE. . - . MR. EDITOR—Th e impuls e w hi c h th e e v e n t s of the French Revolution gave t o th e h uman m i n d, must 1 evitably- affect the internal tranquillity of every Enropean St ste, and the shock which the fabric of social order '.received 41' France, must cause a re-action which will be felt from one e ' . f tremity of Europe to the oth er . Th e destructive venom- ,I c religious and anti-social doctrines instilled by the writings the pretended philosophers of the preceding century, i n t he ' minds of the present generation, cannot be easily eradica te ' " To scoff at every religious opinion ; to ridicule the yeller* tenets of Christianity ; and to call in question the rationa liti ite, of submitting to any sort of spiritual or temporal antoovev are practices which unfortunately prevail at present in e ,, e , ean e Kingdom in Eumpe, and - which must shake both the, -I " e 'e t a, and the Altar to their - very foundations. Threatening' ann,t3iri indeed, is the present aspect of the political horizon, and fic is the storm, which seems slowly, but inevitably anPr° e-L ' e ancit The baneful precepts of Jacobinism, or of Radialli'n -n7 I take to be one and the'sarne, have principally create the spirit of hostility against exisnng Grnver r&erli which is now so generally prevalent. The doctrines' ° n il! and of equality are too palatable not to have heell o g r e car deVoured by the low and ignorant multitude, syn' e c j" tall ed stitutes • the • bulk of Society ; whilst the more enlia-it have yielded to the temptina• and natural desire of recoe. „ some of the rights and privileges-which were once possessn°, their ancestors. That these feelings have bean long 39 , t ael tively at work, is a fact that cannot - he denied ; and tialecoo, must ultimately produce some violent commotion, iS o f a atf quenee which may very fairly be drawn. The conduct of the Sovereigns of Europe-has tended in no small defies 0 increase the awkwardness of their situation, and P=" r l i "their contribline„:lo, hasten the - catastrophe which menaces the existence chc rag authority. Awakened at length from that stupor %a t hill" ensured the successes .of Boonaparte, to a due sense.° 0 0 dangerous situation, they saw the necessity of Iria k ra l a mighty effort to crash his' overwhelming power. pealed to the patriotism and.. to the loyalty of llle,i r a s ' - t le tnl ll and whilst in the name of their country, they derna n u e ` n reto l great and painful' saerifices,they pledged themselves t e n s e 0. 4 to abandon some portion of their authority. This P T % o f hailed with gratitude and. delight, and' Created ST e r desire° tnotism, and an enthusiasm which produce d t- he doo' f " effect ; the independence - of iurope was secured by the 3caaite• fall ofl3uonaparte. But no sooner was this arren e t!'„; - d i eseilf olished, - than most of' the Soirereigns on the Conn"c — c i eri tet7 decided inclination not to fulfil the engagements ti ley ha „JO into with their subjects, irithe face of the whale world ; c ore unanimous wish • together with a pretty correct idea ° )..t sequences by which such a breach of faith be followed, induced them closely' to unite for their toll e ,t; . on their port, and i..;ay.e, birth to the. Holy Alliance. - What - 6- `' to 11l Alliance has to the epithet prefixed lb it, remaic s discovered. . -1113 ;,-- • The principles upon which this Alliance is foun ded orne";,/ . justifiable in therrseli•es e altho4lin its nature it bear n ee e t asf semblance to a ccrispiracy of Sovereigns opposed to a co - d o ubt,!,. Nations;: Rulers. •It is, however, witlioq e much the interest of every Nation in Europe that, t ,; it hea .e v e i tranquillity of this portion of the globe be not d's`,l",, f ere,:„ -- , any great political commotion, ax it is that of every i , s - to protect his own authority, by suppbrting that 0' • ~,c h Had this Alliance , existed at the early part the 4 00 yolutiOn, thousands of victims had not peiiSlied on tbcipv -nor. had the mangled corpses of millions.of s hninan b . e of 11L-) f strewed over the plains of Germany, of Italy, o f Spah l r e, e tion f , sia, and of -France. If its object b e dilly: the • pFo e itsl4 public . tranquillity, it is Ii adahle. in. its principhlt fricn". a e fluetice 'must prove beneficial to mankind. Ev er r a prov e ;, humanity and of social.ord e r m us t, i n d ee d, wermlY.%,J formation seine powerful and syStem a ti c fostittar e ico s ,l- ing as a barrier to the destructi ve t orren t of .irt e l'nlr ° a ais" anti-social doctrines now so gen era lly an d s a au dacif e ° ace iatr°' rpted. these pestilential principles- :threaten t'' tit . to , tia el i ence. eyery gr.at nod tend ev tit;' eat% duce a system'of anarchy no perniehms l i t' ea tellg , eo ible itds.fatal in its consequences, it is-the duty of 31° ' - a erYP'hen' individually and coll. etivel - . a, to - eradicate theft bY,e,itanCce ve il' meals. If such he the olneet of the Holy ol indeed, it is entitled to the approbation of every '0 and of mankind. .- • . 7• • - f na ti ii 0)1„ e Considered as an abstract question, the riallite-toenet•e change, or to new model, the form of its gns'er'-arecn°'-'flA which cannot be solved so as to give universal sat' t s t ,' t opt i ° o our days, under particular CieCumstanee.s, any a ; , he1",,0? natin to,effeet some change in its coostitution,e• n' r prc the admiration or to the execratioii of the wor k ', °° l;i c such a distinction we are evidently influenced ln e n „ r- a etie n rtic t e l , udices than by . the real nature of the case- ' - '" - il acie r , P yc ° a f is essentially criminal,' cannot become innocent - t rbit'' - e a rni i - O lir circumstances. - It' tooppose the tyrannical or . 0 d i e ce. duct of a Sovereign, andto. make any altesall° ns , ' l or P js o ' a l Government,. be a crime in itself, neither titre , ca . c din e g e " a tice justify the nation that adopts such a mode of P o lsi,n t st S ts ' l object of the Holy Alliance be therefore t h e c a ag,P f il a of re bel legitimate authority, its power must be exer t w alla' i t ivio" - pets that a eV,- the least tendency to raise the 6 ro oVe, e diteCt' lion ;it must boldly avow its resolution to ro t " a triot' every existicg form of government,and its eff" t aa a the : tia i ecl 4 ed not oily agai - nst the ('arbonari of NaPle s h arcelt e ,` o st of Sp .•in aid of Portugal; but also w;ainst rkurkeY ,J;i c a t of the Pine. - The present state of affairs . in a t e st, W' i t , 31i deed bring the intentions of' this Alliance ' it h as assul o no, decide what claims it possesses to the tit') he dictates dy . l e how far its principles are in conformity lc ) t ee , art icle s° -- ea . e tan o `f and of JuStice. Having already swelled In' t that the in l taalc c e, beyond the' usual limits of a letter, I trust _ le et .aenl. -- wy of the subject, and the - 'influence Which rise la a things may have upon the politics. of Europe, 1 " r A. p. r cus.e for continuing it on some future day . 0.- Ewhurst, Aar*,. k. ''' o• tl . • " We sh. li be glad to receive the future CO thisCorrespoildent.