The Sun. — London, England, 1845-06-05 00:00:00

~7 : 3 . 2 287 7 6/ ".'""" '"'"""'"""www....—.................................. ' - ' r 1 ' 5 9 Ithis 2,651/ . was for passengers, amounting in each tyl e and , . The passengers that travelled along the New. 20,p, CuPar Angus, taking an average of three years, were 4,*, and for the Newtyle and Glammis 13,328. The receipts both lines ed to were 1,804/. The two last lines were those pro , b e • Lostrnittee. i ncorpor a t ed in the line under the consideration of the kr t,...., th e w rizilgton, civil engineer, was examined as to the nature of The sum of 4,00 A The steepest gradient was one in 693. it N, ' Was, in his opinion, amply sufficield for all the purposes — nstro • est. 1 et'nn• The working expenses he estimated at 4 . 5 per ceetr,ali the like was worked, as had been named by the Scott is hoebthorb. theitti)euuk: T his hie, this amount would be wry much reduced. . aosf subjected to a close cross-examination on be... i Athol, the Earl of Mansfield, and Lady NNI . Thu closest b'Ereally, all of Whom had petitioned against the Bill. T he c he ease for the Scottish Midland Bill. °l4rnitreti adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. The e n , 411 0 AD GROUP F. AND NARROW GAUGES. 4'4 'ltet 111°n '-atetittee met again at twelv e o ' c l oc k thi s d a y, an d soon • 4 e • Members had taken th e i r sea t s th e room was or d ere d ared It to • L 'tetio q al ,aid that in no other railway case during the NMi t W bs 4 80 mush interest manifested. The passages ed - „', the door of the Committee-room were be. e ked - " it is not too much to say that hope and fear were nd tle k k rsi :e the countenance of each person. Stockbrokers . a iotttlitillty.itnhdthai:Zerelsere standing in groups, discussing the probable were making bets on , the success of either Com. the Much cool certainty as if they had found the key lin o "gilds of the Committee . The speculation was in favour of i tNi t4 „ ° 0 western, though upon what grounds it was difficult to IL ' Ole - 4 1 ". that the London and Birmingham had gone down o, l4i betl are . ra w ar ket- The whale mystery will in a short period be t. 4 14 Made visible, to the no small satisfaction arid • tee the vice versa to the great joy of others. Express horses t eto,, rival • -tey the Railway Companies were in waiting . in Palac t e nn yar s d n , , top u „ e decision to the London and Birmingham .sta the %Ar t nlar" eXpress train to Liverpool for the information of It ' toi let there, e itar, Ntht the Committee will not decide today, but from Se t t tty h r i - -ng the matter to an end, there is but little Itosyll4.l' declaring for one side or the other this day, though A t 4 7 too late in the evening for speculation. ad tl 'e Ca u tes Past three the parties were called in and Informed to r ' : that tC 4 e that he had to announce to the parties on both Committee had decided that the preamble of the Bill Ok u 4.440.' 'WO RCESTER, AND WOLVER er4NcI; —ll°) T, AND ITS BRANCHES, w e nd also that the preamble of the 44 : 4) 411 1) RUGBY RAILWAY BILL Niland t hat the p reambles of the '11 1 1:4) 2 , XXV AND WORCESTER, kt h th , e b trziasy AND SLEDGLEY, — wirtzsz tib ,„ ""'llvz AND GLOUCESTER DEVIA ILN teZ,„ °t Proved. TION kokt,--kera 84 Will report accordingly. - ‘ 4 toittltilant was received with loud cheering. tt et then adjourned till twelve o'clock tomorrow. GROUP FF. Th AND NORTHERN LINE. t, - 14 from onr Aft ernoon E d i t i on of yesterday.) kit l N i,44,10 eviden ce i n favour of the line was then resumed, Th:diebt;lteesses having b een exam i ned at this point of the ktrii; ,11 ; , l eir own accommodation and at their own request. -9( Pal* considered the line would prove of great ~Oth1 14: eenfer extraordinary advantages on the north of 44 eri t tli a ,„" e similar nature was adduced, and the COM -. 4 determined upon adjourning till Fridy next, GROUP GG. it,:tottb, flour ZITNCTION RAILWAY. . 1 / 4 _ 4414 t0 Liat4h trona our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) L ; „ 411 . Dundee, spoke to the trade carried on between ;tl i o kt ."4l4 lo7t t'aft 'rP° e froolma t n h el e Ireland, via Glasgow, and the price place th of debarkation at Port Dundas 1 / 4 , 4 1, 44 0 „,, 4 ; Broomielaw (the port of Glasgow), which 1,,,04.1 41 be l' e nth of the whole cost of carriage to Liverpool. %oh r'ened by the proposed junction line, and another 6. 4 4114 4 4% ,1 be i gaaled to the trader by the better condition in he ettp u icc,W e nld arrive at the m ar k e t. H e did no t t hi n k " 1 0 th ik eh tted any inconvenience sustained at the Broomielaw tilt, e av,„„ r ! il way, and, at all events, it would be greatly less ,itL4,4,..-..etained by the cartage of goods. :6 Cgthorth:tittrn, engineer, Dundee, was . called to speak to qk:t,"eett .Wn. and that proportion of it which would . . go eel* eln order to avoid transhipment, and the facility 1 11 NI: 11 "Jan would give to the speedy transit of goods to e i l . an d• k blit itt w il , the , 44,1 D unfermline, gave similar evidence with i„ te t , l i atle of that town. The witness said that the ':,t4t4l,44lttethe Forth were greatly in favour of the project. d or p nzi eei Partner in the firm of James Stewart .. an . tek „ ail leY, proved that they imported grain in corm. 'Mr(' the east country, and that they exported tyli,t,thett.._"keed line would be of great advantage, as it would lkoZtee.of transit. ' 4 l .11 ah 4.,-IPowner Glasgow said that the proposed junc %lN% sl';th_ee_aPpro'bation of ? the shipping . interest in that tli t q wp t were loaded at the south side of the Clyde, I,S t ,Ziald ,sktcl Mi nerals came from the north, a railway across ac N oflis , vr ev,nt th e necessity of transhipment, and lessen IN Doff 420 11 Of ‘,;4biaster, Dundyvan, exported from 7(4,000 to i ron annually from the Broomi e l aw ; an d a t ah --4 tons of c oa l entered G lasgow from the district Zt l / 4t - 4 4 1._ b-41 123 . 0 00 tons out of that number were shipped The present project would lessen the expense \t n. It, Lt . 44410 111 amount, and he was, therefore, heartily N, % his Under examination when the Committee ad. atk % GROUP K. A, e „,_ qo k 41 4,74 , t `No Voßwsca RAILWAY. Ith ot -it 4 ,:.) 4441 c ontinuation from our Afternoon Edition t : 11 tb e "The next part of the project, wholly un. k'''ttteoo/, the ~_D tee eding propositions, was the line from At -"tbee4.7,!oPrising a distance often miles, at an expense on kJ's eov Imp 111 Was one of the largest corn growing dis arvilitotyose produce could now obtain no other outlet th I t he, tb e advantages of a line connecting such tte„ °I ov er att t) e t • 101 4 , e cot t ane tki i.o the midland manufacturing districts, as le,Ntei, %k id Ner ith ing district , of the south, were as palpable Ti ll ', led :dot tk l e. On all these combined grounds, there. - T •4114,."e Committee a preference to the Bill of the g• "Ne i '4l line, rather than to undefined and un. Ntih t l e vol t „,,' p. -tr e k' n Is an ironmonger trek' --. by Mr. .--IRDEN— 514.04 e Of Dereham , at which town there is a con . - h itt, h Pre s Cs e 4 losterially crippled by the want of communi. ri t h tc 'hirnunication from Birmingham to Dere. or --4 .11 Y -1 and Yarmouth, including a great deal of nth and . ° ,t 5 5s eighteen miles of land carriage, at tt ." Its'iliird.l"'r ton. A railway would effect a 14t ttii ti ‘itie t ° Nc1 1 - ', The . e of bringing iron from Yar- Ntlfb, - ,, , t0 1, T 5 is. 6d. to 2s. 6d. per ton cartage from Nor t ,P; i eh. 2s. 6d. per ton, and 10s. per ton h, 04, - iath 'en to Dereham. Remembers meetings at the tclitc:,,,i.ticitlissZotsci,ine since to dis cuss the Merits of the rival lines. ," With ; ' l ' 4 mi:clone in favour of the line to Windham. b -"o fourteen miles round, and even as far as N ho ;ib io - con e s r i e d h r itt market. Taking both . the imp ort and ki„ l / 4 41 4 ev er , ration, he conceive s the line to W indham tk'r "Qrrner r a tion, to that directly to Norwic h . . i t l h ,lior , 4 11 at affords a readier access to the metropolis. ,gonea,,,Al-lereharn is 40s a ton , and gas, which is now of bic feet, materially ily enhanced in value i e 4 be r , . The feeling of the farmers is decidedly 14 I t nto h""aro and Windham branch. tii 4 kid 7,_24r. CHAMBERS—The trade at Norwich is h tts t r „toe ro. 4rTeat competition and consequent low prices to t Zi tt Oibe r „ here were two meetings at Dereham, but k i, p , k, 444 towil 'at by Lo'esrodlUtition.s against the Dereham and Windham f N t ti 0 not no _ a , t ing. Three - f . ourths of the produce e xt ,' ln ,lenased by Norwich dealers. 1 1'‘ii, -w eb% 'bed by Mr. ANDREWS, Q.C.—ls a general ob, of *0 'dealing in seed, wool, wine, and spirits. In 4 0 . '4 °I 'Peed hoti t 7 transit is of great importance, a s . in tiei adve rt ,. ". and thus loses considerably in weight. Oth l te - ,ft ect " l ge to obtain a speedy change of market. IN: 3 k ',oltotto ap t° Prance passes through London. He 1 '1;401 4 Waiteall:°at 6 ,000 or 10,000 tods of wool. At ki t h c: 1 1 to b oth am there are also two other extensive kikN: t 4 ti: Lb tes 'whom railway communication would be ltie_ etef ore a 'ne transit of corn and seeds are very in . - to,,li tt 7ti, deeid,,,: transfer of such articles from one train bit„7l ob jectionable. Mr. Blake was present te-111tro4 inhabitants of ereha . m, and instructed a St..e42,tndEast Dereham and Windham scheme R 411740 b voeate its advantages. t / *l4 4 ,,the 4.'. Ca cvEßT—ig perfectly sure that Mr. me 4 . ' in th e capacity of promoter of the l i ne Sto4,,Y* co o in o - an g n i.... eed_ a cross-e . xam . inatio . n of this witness, to proo f e vide ooe I ""astY considering it irrelevant, lie was th. vas t. rejected. '444 iee t ab fi l en given of the . assents and dissents, the "t and the Committee adjourned. "1441%744400z.GR0UP KK. S i hei t Joh ni , JI ND BURY LINE. LY IS Jinn. Xclitio urner (continued from our Afternoon IttvOo,ot coal n of yesterday)— bN 4l k h ‘de ° „? °fte r , ‘ , 6 elds, calculating in this way, would ‘te it I , ll ‘ , ' tak en . aft er supplying the immediate neighbour. tom Into calculation any coal lying lower than lcy coals taken to Liverpool in one month Was 22 ,5301 tons. The coal imported into ottlt,cO%ib,hlble'' fast 1.183,844 ton s.. The coal fields in L ki ), .01 . 1 ave rs 1 t 2 67 years—in effect they were b. Vitt r „.eapo rt ge export was 109,435 tons from fr o , s ' rti ta Liverpool had been of late years ~p t ot as ir4itt r ood -I _ l o h* higher price of coal but from the the ooka•per ton. f transit by the Leeds and Liverpool i t 1Z o ,4 ' 27 nstio tption T he people of Liverpool would save azo.ally. 3' the projected line 107,4441.; . for Thus the whole yearly saving )\ to e Tbe iv erl l ool by the new line would A' thi COM, f _ V n , 111, 4 e4 e to 4 r export from Liverpool would 1:;1:klit *o ut s. b e a 0 . 4 ,927 tons annually from the superior Itt l t4 I, a l l ent er 7°lnt of 3 0,3691. 10s. 6d. Was . aware op e ,.° a contract to open new mines if the i l l ittik iN th e 0 -six th : ea. Bolton consumed of coal annually titst kil, t °ll „_Proje ot ., ti t Which would be carried from to k line, or 5 ' 512 tons, which, paying S ll 44 lti e t :to Nv c e6k 1 5 on the proected line, would pay i ttl e roo 4 '• The carriage of coal to ti ht , c 'itior ti 01; average annually 4351. 6s. The witness Oh, t ito. °*, ld t z , o ,g that the general coal traffic on the 1 14,."* "t 776/ k t : ii tooo q Thought the superior facilities would lessen the price of coal so ti t t ,et ko m iti; g tile t t 't oitealartely exported to Ireland and other N Y „ _Per. be used as ballast. thl'oe gre't.eraber of the Committee of the pro- NVii t ,* ti t : 4 4o, 4 ; r body of coal lay rather to the east of etit Pr opo, lb ,.e the gradients were, in his opinion, k1 1 ;4 D i t t oti oti as e troi, - -st tine. ;Ze k r 'Ptis ett r i ho e t ;: l za in . tiled at great length, respecting the 4 ti 0 .4 4 , 0 1ie. e, and their contiguity or distance li t S to k i N it " eVidence was of no public interest. 1, Ear l ,„arra.. *...Principal bookkeeper at the collieries $ 1 ,1 !, t 70, 1 71 vv i Of Bai in three years 2 , 300 tons of coals, be t tifillittiheitao M the o o ca i t r a., had been plfered in the transit of e.kt tu e Leeds and Liverpool Canal. This i ) h et op toigh tir to et eer, l ' h r v ic e of the Preceding one. k 7tt.,, H att ed at Newton-in-the -hulls, and was th l t l t f t 1 ,4 been ae,,,,: educated as a land-agent and col tioct.lll.4eett*,:4Wttobli;t "D'aosised with the district through which th 1•1), ab d generally agreed in the evidence , 4 1`ti: h 4 11 / I tl t ' a l Proprietor at .500.„,,_, near Wigan, and mining 4 1 4 41 110:heti 0\1,14479 to ofcoal were annually raised in the 4 1.. 1. '5 11 0 t e 1.0, 4 'tatted C°b firined the testimony of Messrs, r te e 3 1 new material fact. s tt til itr t 4l N ' lent to 4t ony i ll Mr. Bankes, mine proprietor at , otgd corrobor • N 4 4 .) m et ation of Mr. Peace's. The i t ' i tt k ' l ,*o e v 'es, 4 aci i ts vi s o c. rn . e 45 or 50 per cent. to the coal tite.,*o4enliger the y. In't 6 41 1144 14 b. 4 11 y or •t e 04 aequ ai Manchester and Leeds line of t .ll l Liverpool nted with the district proposed h ef a tit e otal cif and Bury line. Thought if the line * th e igan "u viould be carried to the West lwa 7 Was made between Rochdale and Oldham, two coaches a week were the only conveyance. Last year, by the railway, there were 40,000 passengers, not including pleisure excursions, and the number would be greater but that a change of carriages took place on this line. In his opinion, the sama kind of intercourse would occur between Wigan, Bury, and Bolton, if the projected line were carried out. Mr. Richard Manly Foster. superintendent to Messrs. Bromelaw and Foster, coal mine proprietors at Bickerstaffe—Knew but of one line which would be beneficial to the public, and that was the proposed line. At the conclusion of this witness's testimony the Committee adjourned, at four o'clock. GROUP L. The Committee on this group sat at twelve o'clock, and re sumed their inquiry on the Portsmouth Atmospheric line, Mr. E. B. Denison in the chair, with Mr. Oswald, Lord Clive, Mr. Vyvian, and Mr. Monckton Milne present. Before, however, entering on the main business of the day, an application was made to the Committee to take the Horsham branch of the Brighton line into consideration on Friday. The line was only eight miles long, and as all opposition to it had been withdrawn, the evidence was not likely to occupy more than half an hour, The CHAIRMAN said that the only consideration with the Cam. naittee was the public benefit, and the only obstacle was a doubt of the time which would be occupied to the detriment of the line they had now under consideration. On the assurance of the Counsel for the line that he would pledge himself that the evidence should not occupy more than h.,lf an hour, the Committee undertook to take the Horsham branch on Friday afternoon, at three o'clock. Mr. George Hillyer was then called by Mr. RAWLINSON, on behalf of the Corporation of Portsmouth. He stated that he was a miller and coal-merchant at Hemsworth and Havant. He sent about 12,600 tons of coals to the interior,' at the rate of eightpence to tenpence per ton per mile, making up to Petersfield from eight shillings to ten shilling per ton. He knew the lime works of Mr. Seward at Buxter-hill, and the quantity of lime sent down to Portsmouth was very considerable. There were 27 mills in that neighbourhood, which could grind from 1,800 to 3,000 quarters weekly, and the weight of corn and flour carried to and from those mills was probably 200 to 250 tons a week. To the cross-examination by Mr. M. SMITH, witness stated that from 1,500 to 2,000 ions of coals were sent from Hems.vorth to Petersfield, which contained about 2,000 inhabitants. About 2,000 tons of timber were exported to Sunderland, Swansea, and other places equally distant, but he could not, from his own knowledge, say whether the Guildford line went through a finer timber coun. try, but he thought that they were about equal handed. In the Pe tersfield district there was the Bear forest and the Weimer forest, but he knew nothing of the timber on the other district. He believed that barely halt of the corn ground in the neighbourhood of Mid. hurst and Petersfield came from Chichester market. To the re-examination by Mr. RAWLINSON, the witness replied that coals were from Os. to 4s. a ton cheaper at Hemsworth than at Chichester, as there were no port dues, but only pilotage, to pay at the former place. Mr. Gale, a farmer, residing about seven miles from Petersfield, stated that he had purchased about 2,500 quarters of oats at Ports. mouth, and had bought more hay than any other individual in that neighbourhood, the supply of the latter coming chiefly from about Petersfield. He also brought a considerable quantity of malt from Portsmouth, and the atmospheric line would be a great advantage, and the country was at present suffering from the abstraction of the traffic by the South. Western Railway. For several years he had sent three or four horses daily from Petersfield to Portsmouth. There were three people in the neighbourhood of the former place to whom he had sent 300 quarters of oats yearly. He named several villages to which this railway would ea ; eat convenience, but same of those places were as much as seven miles from the line of railway. To the inquiry of Mr. OSWALD, the witness stated that coals were about the same price as in London. To the inquiry of Mr. M. MILNE, the witness stated that the trade in the Petersfield line had very much declined since the formation of the South-Western Railway. Sir W. dolliffe, M.P., stated he resided at Meratham, in Surrey, and had considerable property in and about Petersfield, and was Lord of the Manor of that place. The •alley of Petersfield was, in his opinion, as productive as any part of the county, and he thought that this line of railway was absolutely indispens able to the prosperity of the county. Hundreds of horses had disappeared from the county since the formation of the South. Western line. He was anxious for this line, as it would open the communication with Portsmouth, and buyers from Portsmouth would have less competition in the Petersfield market than at Chi cheater. Since the formation of the South-Western line the means of communication had been very defective ; in fact, they had no land carriage whatever except common cartage. He paid 10s. a ton land carriage for all the coals which he consumed. There was a good deal of timber growing about Petersfield, especially oak, fit for ship build_ ing. The advantage of railway communication, therefore, with Portsmouth, was self-evident. Some very good hops were also grown in the neighbourhood, which they were now obliged to send to Weyhill, which, if this railway were formed, they coald send to the Borough market. The country between Petersfield and Godalming was traversed by several sterile hill ranges, the most prominent of which was the Devil's Dyke. Large plantations of oak had been made by the Government during the: last fifty years about Petersfield. He had himself sold con. siderable quantities of timber this year, but many of the trees had been cut down, and the new wood would not be ready for cutting for nearly fifty years to come, except for tillers and saplings. He was Member for Petersfield, which by the Reform Bill had been put into schedule B, and he had taken a large interest in the atmospheric line, and had become a Director, because he thought not only that the district would be greatly benefited, but because upon it the very existence and the whole prosperity of Pe tersfield depended. He felt assured that the Company was a bona fide Company, and, if the Committee passed the preamble, and Par liament gave them an Act, the line would most certainly be made. The atmospheric line was the first that had been projected, and he (Sir William) thought that he had heard of it some months be fore the South-Western line had been at all spoken of in public. Certainly the population in that district were unanimously in its favour. Mr. Chace, a farmer, residing within about lye miles of Peters. field, who, in addition to a farm on his own hands, also managed 2,000 acres for Sir Harry Featherstone—The land was exceedingly good for pasture, and he had about 390 sheep on his own farm, and there were from 1,400 to 1,500 on Sir H. Featherstone's ground. Sir Harry had also another farm, where there were about 1,200 sheep. He had about 700 ewes which lambed, and,:together, about 240 to 250 beasts of the best quality, fed on the farms. They sent a good many:calves to London, the cost being about ss. each for calves, and Is, lid, for lambs. He had attended the market at Chichester, which was about fourteen miles distant, since he was sixteen years of age, and it was attended by people from ail round the country. There were two great stock fairs in Petersfield in the year, which were by far the greatest fairs in the neighbourhood. There was also a considerable quantity of game sent up to London during the existence of the coaching system, especially during the early part of the season, Mr. Parsons, a resident at Petersfield, confirmed the testimony of the other witnesses as to the abstraction of the trade. Mr. King, of Buriton, stated that he held 1,100 acres in one farm and 240 in another, and that the whole of the country round Petersfield was admirably adapted for feeding stock, and was very rich in all kinds of agricultural produce. Mr. Munday, a cattle-dealer, residing within two miles of Petersfield, stated that he had about 2,300 sheep on his own lands, and purchased 500 to 600 beasts, and from 10,000 to 12,000 sheep, yearly. The land throughout the whole district was ex ceedingly good for grazing, and the stock was of the very finest description. He had himself obtained several prizes for show cattle, as had also some of his neighbours, and he believed that there were at least 1,000 beasts fatted every year in the valley of Petersfield. The cost of conveying sheep to market was Pd. a head to Vauxhall, and 2d. from there to Smithfield. The expense of getting beasts to that market was from Bs. to 1 is. a head, and this railway would be a very great advantage. This witness also testi. fied to the growth of a considerable quantity of timber in the district. - ..... Mr. Hallam, a butcher at Calmore, said he had slaughtered be tween 800 and 1,000 sheep since February last, and sent most of the carcases to London, at a cost of 2s. 4d. a cwt. During the existence of the coaching system they had sent their meat for 2 Y 2 d. a stone, and at present they were suffering much from the distance of the railway. Mr. Canky stated that he and his father had farmed the tolls of Peterafield market for more than 50 years, and that the number of sheep penned at the December fair was from 7,000 to 10,000, be. sides which there were about 600 or 700 beasts. He was also an auctioneer. Had sold 2,663 oak trees at 41. a load this year for Sir W. Jolliffe, but the price would have been at least I/. a load higher If they had had any good conveyance to the coast, and the country was altogether well wooded. Mr. S. Chace, a farmer at Steep, north of Peterafield, confirmed the previous witness as to the quality of the land, and stated that there was as good malting barley grown in the neighbourhood as anywhere in the country. He also dealt in provisions, and had paid 2001. a year for carriage for the last thirty-eight years. Mr. Hearsay, a farmer in the ,neighbourhood of Liss, which was a le farther up the line, gave similar testimony, and stated that a farm had lately been sold in that neighbourhood at 501. an acre. Mr. Simmons, a paper-maker and coal-merchant at Haslemere, stated that there were fifteen corn-mills and seven paper.mills near that place, and that the formation of the proposed railway would reduce the price of coals nearly 15s. a ton. Beside this paper and corn business, there was also a large turnery in the town, the wood about the place being well adapted for that purpose. There was also a manufactory of pyroligneous acid and of naptha. The ter minus at London-bridge was decidedly the best, and the formation of the railway would save him at least 3001. a year in carriage, and to another firm there would be a saving of double that amount. The Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. GROUP LL. THE LONDON AND SOUTH-WESTERN RAILWAY EXTENSION. (Continued from our ♦fternoon Edition of yeiterday.) Mr. M. CHAMBERS suggested that the Counsel on the opposite side should produce evidence with respect to the traffic tables. Mr. SmtexE raid that, if heithought that the branch of the line which had been before the Committee would have taken so short a time, he would have been able to produce evidence on that point, but the principal witness was at present under examination before another Committee. .. _ The CHAIRMAN wished to be certain that the evidence would be ready to morrow if they did adjourn. Mr. SMIRBE assured the Committee that it would. After a short discussion, the Committee adjourned to twelve o'clock to-morrow. GROUP N. CORNWALL RAILWAY. Mr. ROWE, counsel for the petitioners (in continuation from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday), said—He held that the promoters of the Bill had obtained a favourable report from the Board of Trade by false colouring, on the assumption that the line would be worked by atmospheric traction, whereas they had not sufficient money to construct such a line ; and even for the construction of a double locomotive their estimates were 300,0001. below the sum which would be necessary. Captain Moorsom had stated that the crossing of the Hamoaze could be effected in a minute, while Mr. Stevenson, Mr. Rendell, and other scientific gentlemen whom he had called before them, had shown that such an opinion was absurd, as the passage could not be accomplished in leas than half an hour, and that they would rather go several miles round than cross the Hamoaze by means of a floating bridge. The electrical telegraph could not be properly or safely laid down. Then the drawbridge over the Penryn-creek, which was navigated by large ship., would only be four feet and a half high at high-water, and if the Admiralty did not consent to the construction of the bridge, a dangerous pier, projecting a considerable distance into the creek, was to be constructed. Why, what could be greater obstacles to the fre•passage of the shipping than such a bridge and such a pier ? A line might have been constructed from Plymouth to Falmouth in a more northern direction, avoiding the Hamoaze alto gether, end offering greater accommodation to the mines in those districts than the coast line could. He eulogised the central line, and referred to the small obstacles which it would have to encounter in comparison with the proposed line; that the gradients and curves on the one were moderate and practicable, whilst on the other they were not only imprac• ticable, but dangerous in every sense—opinions substantiated by the evidence of gentlemen well competent to judge—not only of engineers, but of Members of Parliament, and persons of high standing and influence in the county. He concluded by call ing upon the Committee to reject the preamble of the Bill, as its adoption would, its a political, commercial, and social view, be most injurious to the county of Cornwall. Mr. Sergeant KINGLAKE said the real question was, whether Cornwall was to have a railway or not, and he held that if the proposed scheme were not carried out th e coun t y wou ld no t h ave a railway 71 all. Looking to the south coast of Cornwall—to the wants of the mining interests—to the wants of the inhabitants of Liskeard, St. Austel, Truro —the line laid down by Captain Moorsom, whom his Learned Friend had most unjustly calum. S ( N, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING. JUNE 5, 1845. niated, was the one which the inhabitants of Cornwall required. No evidence on which they could depend had been adduced to show that the unknown line advocated by Mr. Thomas was practicable. No levels or sections had been properly taken. Were the Committee satisfied, then, that suffi cient evidence had been adduced to prove that that line was a better line than the one proposed? They had not had sufficient evidence to show that that line could be properly constructed ; and in his opinion it had been improperly intruded on the Com mittee. If they bad not the gradients complained of on the proposed line, they would be compelled to tunnel to a great extent and no line could be constructed on account of the expense; but in a county like Cornwall—a county which undulated more than many other counties—such gradients could not be avoided. Mr. S'evenson's dictum with respect to the rate of speed on the line was most - exaggerated. Somehow or other engineers were actuated by a strong feeling of hostility towards each other, and were apt to exaggerate when giving evidence before Committees. Mr. Stevenso❑ was a most suspicious witness. The Learned Counsel then referred to the report of the Board of Trade to show that they had not been imposed upon, and had con. sequently given a preference to the coast line ever the central one. The Board of Trade considered that the central line was impracticable on account of its expense, that the gradients and curves on the coast line were not objectionable for an atmospheric line, and that with ordinary locomotive power they would not be dangerous ; that on public grounds they could not report in favour of the central, but saw Ito reason why they should not report in favour of the coast line and recommend it for the sanction of Parliament. It was true in the sections one gradient had been put down as I in 60 whilst it should have been lin 40. Upon that solitary fac this Learned Friend had grounded the assertion that the favourable re port of the Board of Trade had been obtained by misrepresentation. The other deep gradient was at the Penryn station, and could not be dangerous, as the carriages, as a matter of couse, did not run at the top of their speed, but were almost stationary. The other steep gradient was on the Bodmin branch, and the objection there fore could not apply to the main line. Then the Hamoaze would be crossed on a plan which would be perfectly safe. No deception could have been practised by either Mr. Brunel or Captain Moor s= as it was a special provision in the agreement, between the Great Western and the other companies who had agreed to take shares to the amount of 250,0001. in the Company, that the estimates should be made with a view to atmospheric or locomo tive traction. The estimates too were not fallacies. He con cluded by contending that the promoters had proved their case ; that taking into consideration that no landowner opposed it, with the exception of Mr. Thomas, whose opposition arose from his being interested in another line, he, submitted, therefore, that they must report in favour of the preamble. the town. He considered that the favourable gradients on the Brayton and Goole line more than counterbalanced the shortness of the distance by the other. Besides affording greater facilities for the accommodation of traffic to the towns in the west, it was also a less expensive line. By the CHAlRMAN—Assuming the superiority of the gradients on the Brayton and Goole line, and the shorter distance of three miles by the Wakefield, Pontefract,. and Goole line, there would, in his opinion, be very little difference in point of time in going by either line from Goole to Bradford. Ater the examination of Mr. Robert Stephenson, which con. eluded the engineering evidence, and the estimates having been handed ii, Mr. KNOWLES proceeded to address the Committee on behalf of the Brayton and Goole line, but he was interrupted by the an nouncement that the Speaker was at prayers, and the Committee adjourned. GROUP X. LONDON AND YORK LINE. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) The Committee then entered upon the engineering evidence; but even in this, toe, there is a species of hiatus, inasmuch as the opposing Counsel called for certain tabular statements, setting forth the length, width, depth, and expense of certain cuttings, which the witness, Mr. Cubitt, was unable to furnish until yesterday. What remained then of that class of evidence was proceeded with, and closed yesterday; then came on the testi mony of the valuators, and it is now proceeding; and when that has closed then the competing Company's Coun sel resume their cross-examination on the traffic tables ; and. if an idea of the length of that cross-examination may be formed from the vastness of the rr.aterial that is to furnish it, it is impossible to say to what period it may not be ' protracted; and when that has closed, then comes on the speeches of Counsel in summing up the case they conceived they have made out, to warrant the Committee in de claring that the preamble of their Bill has been proved; then, after that comes the speech of the Counsel in laying before the tribunal the merits of the case of a competing line; then follows the evidence in support of that statement, the crass-examination of the witnesses, the summing up, and the reply; and then the same round of speeches, witnesses, cross. examinations, and replies of the various other competing lines, the claims for compensation arc. &c., and so it will go en, ad infinitum. before the Committee can bring their minds to bear on the vast mass of testimony they have heard, pour a contre, with a view of declaring whether or not the preamble of the Bill for the London and York scheme has been proved; and all this must be gone through and disposed of before the Committee can take into consideration any one of the other lines attached to Group X. The first witness called to.day was Mr. William Simpson, land-valuer. He was called to prove the value Of the land on that portion of the line from Bawtry to Doncaster, and Doncaster to Wakefield. The quantity of land proposed to betaken in was 355 acres, and he had esti mated the value at 53,5551. 18s. Bd. Mr. Paver valued the land between Doncaster and York. The quantity of land to be taken up was 347 acres, and he had esti mated the value at 84,5311. Mr. Keyworth handed in tables of the tolls received on the Fordyke and Witham Navigations. The Rev. Mr. Sibthorp was called to prove the advantages that would result to both parties by the arrangements made between the two Navigation Companies and the London and York Company. At the close of the examination of the last witness, the cross examination of the goods' traffic witnesses was resumed, and occu pied the Committee to its rising. The object of it was to show that the tables had not been - formed on correct data, and that the assumed traffic between the places stated, such as Lincoln and Boston, Sheffield and Hull, Gainsborough and Hull, &c., as exist ing at present, and which it was alleged would be transferred to the London and Yorkshire, had been exaggerated. At the conclusion of this witness's evidence, the Committee adjourned at half-past five o'clock. SUB—COMMITTEE ON STANDING ORDERS. This Committee assembled at three o'clock. Present, Sir J. Y. Buller, Mr. Aldam, Mr. Brotherton, and Mr. Broadley. FORM AND NORTH MIDLAND RAILWAY, GOOLE BRANCH. (ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS.) In this case the standing orders were declared to have been com plied with. CAMBRIDGE AND BURY RAILWAY. Standing orders complied with. LIVERPOOL AND MANCHESTER RAIL WAY-THE NORTHERN AMALGAMATION. In this case it was found that the notices in the Gazelle were de. f ective in one trivial point.—The Committee reported accordingly, TUESDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE. DIVIDENDS. At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street. L. J. Nicolay, draper, Woolwich, June 26, at eleven—J. Wilson, boot-maker, Jermyn-street, Westminster, June 26, at one—S. Hoadley, coach maker, New Bond-street, June 26, at half-past twelve—J. Welch, licensed victualler, Holloway, June 26, at eleven—B. Bright, licensed victualler, Wigmore street, June 26, at twelve—R. Barham, linen draper, Ems worth, Hampshire, June 26, at one—R. Tucker, farrier, Dean-street, Westminster, June 26, at half-past one—W. H. Williamson, tobacconist, Dowgate-hill, June 24, at half-past twelve—G. Jackson, upholsterer, Hertford, June 24, at one. In the Country. _ _ P. Murray, travelling draper, Manchester, June 27, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court —N. P. Wood, banker, Manchester, June 27, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court—J. Crump, miller, Stanway, Gloucestershire, June 26, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court—W. Fergu son, draper, Liverpool, June 24, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court—G. Brocklehurst, H. Dircks, and J. B. Nel son, millwrights, Liverpool, June 25, at eleven, at the Liver pool District Court—T. B. Golborne and A. A. Dobbs, wine merchants, Liverpool, June 25, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court—W. Oliver, printer, Darlington, June 26, at twelve, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court—W. Granger, pal)er manufacturer, Relly-mill, Durham, June 26, at half-past twelve, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court—J. Hall, cowkeeper, Wallsend, Northumberland, June 25, at half. past twelve, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court—R. Currie, stationer, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, June 26, at eleven, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court—C. Murcott, coal dealer, Birmingham, June 24, at half-past eleven. at the Birmingham District Court—J. Hayward, miller, Milverton,Warwickshire, June 24, at half-past eleven, at the Birmingham District Court—J. Clarke and G. Clarke, carpet manufacturers, Market Harborough, June 24, at eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be shown to the contrary, on day herein mentioned. J. Myatt, victualler, Commercial-road, Pimlico, June 25—D. P. Rees, iron merchant, Crooked-chambers, King William-street, City, June 25—C. M. Firth, lithographic printer, St. Michael's •alley, Cornhill, June 25—T. Jop lin, linen draper, Sunderland, June 25—W. Granger, paper manufacturer, Relly-mill, Durham, June 26—T. S. Stuart, jun., drysalter, Liverpool, June 24—John Nield, Jas. Nield, John Nield, jun., and J. Holt, cotton spinners, Dukinfield, Cheshire, June 26—J. Nicholson, woollen draper, Blackburn, June 25—J. S. Rowe, draper, New cas tl e . un der Lyne, June 25— NV. Ferguson, draper, Liverpool, June 24—G. C. Smith, builder, Kensington-park, June 24. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. W. Smart and A. Tullet, stationers, Old Fish-street—R. Beaumont and F. Kennedy, stockbrokers, Leeds—T. Wick ham and C. Brooks, town carmen, Swan-street, Newington —H. Rawson and W. Field, manufacturers, Leicester—T. Luscombe, W. Bryant, and E. James, coal merchants—B. B. Powell and S. Bromfield, jun., rnaltsters, Tattenhall, Cheshire —R. Beaumont, F. Kennedy, and G. Clark, stockbrokers, Bradford—W. Ramer and J. Bleaklev, cotton spinners, Bolton, Lancashire—J. Barrett and J. Myers, painters, Brad ford—J. Hamilton and J. Baines, ship brokers, Liverpool— W. G. Watson, G. Tyrrel, and H. Cory, white lead manufac turers, Narrow-street, Limehouse—P. Webb and J. Irving, starch manufacturers, Liverpool—T. Graham and W. Hay ward, chemical light manufacturers, Queen-street, Mile-end New Town—H. Glynn, and R. P. Glynn, brokers, Liverpool —E. Tassiker and J. Southworth, coal miners, Wigan—R. Askew, T. Barlow, and S. Davenport, dyers, Manchester— S. H. Gorringe and L. E. Blanc, milliners, Manchester—E. Fielding and J. Craven, cotton manufacturers, Chorley, Lan cashire—J. Garland, C. Garland, and J. L. Garland, wine merchants, Leadenhall-street—T. F. Triebner and W. F. Conquest, Russia brokers, Old Broad-street, City—T. J. Feldwick and G. Feldwick, boarding house keepers, Pancras lane, City—C. Raisbeck and J. Rutty, timber merchants, Hull —J. Thompson and G. Ellerkanip, rock salt proprietors, Northwich, Cheshire—G. Corry and E. Edge, cotton cloth manufacturers, Preston—J. Stephenson, jun., and W. Hyde, jun., ironmongers, Liverpool—C. J. Jordan and W. Dal e , general agents, ater-lane--J. Williamson and P. Harrison, dyers, Pendleton, Lancashire—T. Heydon and C. Handley, attorneys, Warwick—E. Patterson, S. Pascall, and A. G. E. Field, haberdashers, Church-street, Hackney—J. B. F. W. Heimann and J. G. W. Kuper, wire rope manufacturers, St. George's-terrace, Camberwell. SCOTCH SEQUESTRATION. J. Burnside, bootmaker, Glasgow, June 10 and July 2, at one, at the office of Mr. G. Kippen, Glasgow. recollection of his wife being close to him when he was at the foot of the steps leading on to the trap, and he thought she had followed him up the steps. After placing his child in safety, he returned to aid his wife, and then saw the body of a female lying senseless in the gutter, on the roof of the house. The smoke was rising in such dense volumes that he did not recognise the features, and, supposing it to have been his wife, with the assistance of Mr. Robinson, his partner, he conveyed her into the attic of the adjoining premises, where he first discovered that it was the servant, and not his wife, that he had rescued. Wit ness returned to the roof of his own house, and, as well as he was able, called out to his wife, but received no reply, and was at last driven by the flames to make his retreat. Mr. Satchell added that under the trying circumstances in which they were placed his wife had shown the greatest presence of mind, and he was utterly unable to account for her having at last failed to follow him up the ladder on to the roof of the house. The room in which the body was found was witness's bed-room, leading to the supposition that the unfortunate deceased had retraced her steps after accompanying him to the ladder leading to the trap door. Witness had no idea how the fire occurred. A long and desultory conversation ensued as to the means adopted to obtain fire-ladders on the occasion, and as to the manner in which the engines had been sent for. A close examination into the circumstances satisfied the jury that, with regard to the latter, everything that was necessary had been done, but as to the fire escapes or ladders, it was too painfully evident that no attempt had been made to bring any one of them, calculated to be of service, to the spot. After some further evidence of no importance, 1 he jury, after a few moments' consideration, returned a verdict of " Accidental Death" in both cases. LITERATURE. MACGREGOR'S COMMERCIAL STATIS TICS. 3 Vols. THIRD NOTICE. In his section upon " Belgium," our author de scribes the physical aspect and natural resources of the country as being exceedingly varied and fertile ; both Flanders and Antwerp are flat, with a soil generally composed of sea-sand and alluvious, ex cept in the immediate frontier adjoining Brabant. I'he coast is low, with ridges of downs, pastures, and a highly cultivated country inland (yielding in per fection all the crops common in England and the North of France) ;—intersected by the Scheldt and various canals which traverse the provinces. The district features of these may be thus described : Brabant and Hainault, highly cultivated, ex hibiting corn-fields, fruit-trees, pastures, and woods. Liege and Namur have the same aspect, but more undulated; and near the Sambre, Meuse, and the Prussian frontiers, hilly and somewhat moun tainous. For a small kingdom, Belgium possesses abundant resources. In the forests, plenty of oak and other ship ti m b er ; b e l ow th e soil, mines of iron, seams of coal, rich ores of copper and lead, and great store of alum, marble, limestone, potter's clay, &c. The Meuse and the Scheldt, with their numerous tributaries, improved and carefully connected by canals, form an inland navigation of which the branches extend to every corner of the kingdom. Railroads, admirably constructed and extending from Ostend to Liege, open a cheap and speedy inter course between Ostend, Bruges, Ghent, Antwerp, Malines, Brussels, and numerous intermediate towns. The cloth, cotton, linen, and hardware manufactures of Belgium have very much extended themselves since 1814. The several provinces of Belgium are South Brabant, East and West Flanders, Hainault, Antwerp, Namur, Liege, Limbourg, and Luxem bourg, covering an area of 12,797 square miles, and peopled by 4,022,677 souls. The chief towns are Brussels, Ghent, Bruges, Mons, Antwerp, Namur, and Liege, with populations, respectively, of 112,500, 95,000, 45,500, 20,500, 77,000, 21,000, and 65,300. Though Antwerp and Ostend are, properly speaking, the only seaports of Belgium, yet vessels of from 200 to 300 tons can come by sea from Ostend to Bruges, and Nieuport will admit small vessels which may communicate with the interior by the canals. These, with the rivers of Belgium, extend many of the a d van t ages o f seaports to the inland towns, as Ghent, Bruges, Brus sels, Liege, a n d mos t o f th e towns and seats of in dustry in the kingdom. Vessels sail from Louvain, which is in the very centre of Belgium, with their cargoes direct for England. The port of Antwerp, with its spacious dock,:basin, and quays, and its safe an chorage, is one of the best in Europe, but approached from the sea by a tedious navigation. It has sufficient depth for the largest vessels, and every convenience for ship-building. In 1838, the total value of all imports into Belgium was no less than 9,522,1001. sterling (738,052,659 f.) Of exportsfrom Belgium, 7,743,1801. (or 193,579,520 francs). The annual average navigation of Belgium for the eight years, 1831 to 1838 inclusive, was as follows : Sailed, Belgian vessels, 470; tonnage, 57,694. Fo• reign vessels, 1,411 ; tonnage, 173,057. Total, 1,881 vessels, of total tonnage, 230,752. The annuli ave rage arrivals in same year were, Belgian vessels, 475 ; tonnage, 59,207. Foreign, 1,339 ; tonnage, 172,707. Total, 1,874 vessels; of total tonnage, 231,914. The chief articles of import were—coffee, grain, and seeds, sugar (raw), woven goods, cotton, metals, lea ther, wool, tobacco, lead, rice, potass, dye stuffs, wines and spirits, fruits, drugs, oil, spices, salt, and tea. The chief exports, flax, woven goods, namely, cotton, dyed and plain ; linens, table and other kinds; woollen cloths, refined sugar; metals (nails, zinc, and other kinds) ; glass (window and glass wares) ; bark for tanners' use; arms; green and seed tobacco ; dye stuffs ; wool ; leather, and seed oil. Out of the annual num ber of 45 vessels which sailed from Louvain for all parts, 18 measuring 1,526 tons departed for England. The value of those exports amounted to 226,500 francs. Total amount to all other parts only 11,700 francs. The French flag does not appear to have been at all engaged in this (Louvain) branch of the Belgian trede. Ile total estimated income of Bel gium for 1841 was 3,381,0001. sterling. POST-OFFICE ESPIONAGE. PROTESTS. The following protests have been entered on the journals of the House of Lords by Lords Clanricarde and Radnor, after the vote of Friday night on the Post-office Amend ment Bill : "1. Because we think that the law, which in a matter directly affecting the rights, interests, and comfort of every class of the community, ought to be perfectly clear and distinct, is in the matter to which this Bill applies obscure and doubtful, affording neither a guarantee to the subject against inquisitorial tyranny and the arbitrary caprice of a Minister, or certain protection to a ser vant of the Crown who may be led by unsound precedents to ex. ceed his lawful authority. " 2. Because it does not appear from either of the reports of the Secret Committees of this and the other House of Parliament, or from any other authentic source of information, neither has it been alleged in debate, that any danger to the State from foreign foes or from domestic treason has ever been averted or discovered by the stoppage or opening of letters in the Post-office; and we therefore gather from the experience of nearly two centuries, that no benefit arises from a practice which is so unconstitutional, odious, and de moralising, that nothing but the highest interests of the State, in volving the peace of the country or the security of the Sovereign, could justify or palliate its continuance without some such limit and restraint as this Bill is calculated to impose. " 3. Because even if we could believe that the opening of letters in the Post.office may have been at any past time useful to the Government and beneficial to the community at large, we should nevertheless be convinced that it cannot in future be attended by advantages at all eommensurate with the evil of maintaining a sys tem disgraceful to our Government, repugnant to the feelings of the British people, and contrary to every principle of popular or individual liberty. " SOMERHILL." Protest against the negativing the second reading of the Post-office Bill on Friday last : " 1. Because it is doubtful whether by law any power exists of detaining and opening letters passing through the Post-office. " 2. Because this power, as now exercised by the Secretary of State in England, and in Ireland by the Lord-Lieutenant, is ab • horrent from the feelings of the people, and is immoral in itself, being in violation of confidence, and requiring for its useful exercise secresy, which in practice has been obtained by the forging of seals and the falsification of stamps. " 3. Because being exercised secretly, it cannot be questioned, and the person who exercises it, not being known, cannot be pro. ceeded against or made responsible. "4. Because, if necessary, as is alleged, for the safety of the realm, or for the purposes of police, .it ought to be clearly re cognised by law, regulated, and well-defined ; and the provisions of this Bill were intended for that purpose. "5. Because the clauses and provisions against which in the debate strong objections were urged, might have been altered in the Committee if the Bill had been allowed to proceed, and were not legitimate grounds for objecting to the principle or refusing the second reading. 44 RADNOR. " DENMAN." The following protest has also been made against the negativing the second reading of the Post-office Amendment Act on Friday last : "1. Because I think the law with respect to the detaining and opening letters at the Post-office extremely doubtful ; and that in a matter of so much delicacy and importance, it ought to be pecu liarly clear and well-defined ; and because if the law really is what it was contended in the debate to be, I think it ought to undergo immediate amendment. "2. Because, despairing at present of the entire abolition of the practice, I highly approve of the principle of the Bill which was meant to restrain it to cases in which it might possibly do some good, and to limit its operation within reasonable bounds. "3. Because, if the clauses of the Bill were liable to the objec tions urged in the debate, these clauses might have been corrected, and the objections obviated in the Committee. "4. Because two most desirable objects would have been obtained by this Bill— " Ist—The suppression of the immoral and fraudulent practices naturally arising out of the power itself; and " 2dly—The limiting the exercise of the power claimed to mat ters of internal government, and the preventing of that inter ference with the concerns of foreigners, relying on English hospi. tality, which I deem derogatory to the character of the country, and which, as late events have proved, is likely to be prompted by false information, and may, I apprehend, endanger the general peace. "DENMAN. "RADNOR. " CAMPBELL "KINNAIRD and ROSSIE." RAILWAY GAMBLING.—The Committee on the London, Chatham, and North Kent Railway having stopped Mr. Sergeant Wrangham in his reply on behalf of the Company, by saying that "there appeared to the Committee to be no objection to the line," a gentleman, who had been for some days observed as an eager member of the antagonist group, said hastily to a friend, "We lose 100,0001. by that," The announcement of the chairman was followed by rather in temperate manifestations of triumph on the part of the supporters of the Bill; and in the hearing of our reporter, it was stated with great exultation that the shares of the North Kent would rise to three per cent. by morning. MORTALITY IN THE METROPOLIS.—There has been a considerable increase in the deaths during the last week, the total number being 905, exceeding that of the pre ceding week by 95. The increase is chiefly from diseases of the lungs and other organs of respiration. The number of violent deaths was 29, of which 7 were suicides, and 4 from burns and scalds. Sixteen died of small-pox, at the followi ng ages :—Four under 1 year ; 'seven 1--3 ; lime 3-5; one 5; and one 17 years. IMPERIAL PA RLIAM EN T. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 4. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. Petitions were presented against the grant to May nooth by the Marquis of Downshire, Lord II itherton, Lord Clancarty, the Bishop of St. David's, Lord Hill, Lord Kenyon, and the Bishop of Gloucester. The Earl of Fl'l Z WILLI A M presented a petition from L• rd Harborough complaining of acme of the clauses of the Syston and Peterborough Railway, which provided that the railway should pass through his park. Lard BROUGHAM agreed that the hardship upon the Noble Earl who complained amounted almost to a fraud. After an observation from a Noble Lord, Lord BROUGHAM said, that as a general rule that was all very well, but there might be particular cases of outrage on private property which might merit particular notice. MAYNOOTH. The Bishop of NORWICH presented several petitions from congregations of Dissenters in his diocese in favor of the grant. THE BISHOP OF CASHEL'S CHARGE. The Bishop of CASH EL wished to say a few words respecting the observations made last night in their Lordships' House by a Noble Marquis (the Marquis of Normanby) upon a charge which he had delivered at Lismore. He had thought at the time that what he was represented to have said could form no part of his charge, and LOW he was able to give it a most positive contradietioa. He had succeeded in getting two copies of that charge in London instead of, as he feared, being obliged to send to Ireland for them. One he had placed in the hands of the Noble Duke behind him and the other he begged to lay on the table of the House. He could say that the passage which had been read was rot only not a perversion of his charge, hut that it was a complete and entire fabrication. As he intended to re-publish that charge, he should wish to have a copy of what was said to be his charge, in order to give it with the charge itself, and his own defence. He hoped the Noble Marquis would have no objection to state on what authority he had made the accusati ; for in these stormy times, when no man's character was safe, it was some protection to know from what quarter he was assailed. The Marquis of NORMANBY regretted that he had not received, according to the Right Reverend Prelate's pro mise, an authenticated copy of the charge. But he had no objection to state that the report, from which he last night read an extract, was furnished to him by Dr. Fogarty, the vicar-general and parish priest of Lismore—a man of the highest character in the Roman Catholic priesthood. He believed there was no person who knew Dr. Fogarty but would speak in the highest terms of his moral character. He thought that it was due to the Right Reverend Prelate to give him the earliest opportunity of contradicting that letter, and when he perused it he would see that Dr. Fogarty had endeavoured to procure a copy of the charge but was unable to do so. It had been generally reported that the Right Reverend Prelate had given utterance to such pernicious doctrines as exclusive intercourse, and he considered it much to be regretted, and was a great loss that the Right Reverend Prelate had not given an extensive circulation to the charge which he had 'really de livered, and which he now laid on the table of the House. He felt it unnecessary to say more. He was sure their Lordships would acquit him of any intention to affix any unjust stigma upon the character of the Right Rev. Prelate. He would ask him, however, was the charge which he delivered an extem pore charge? The Bishop of CASHEL—It was not an extempore charge; it was a written charge, and the copy on their Lordships' table was printed from that written charge. The Marquis of NORMANBY—The reason why he asked the question was, that he might set the matter for ever at rest. When he had asked the Right Rev. Prelste last evening whe ther the charge he delivered was the same as the printed one published afterwards, he had said that it was so as nearly as possible. The Duke of WELLINGTON •bserved that the Right Rev. Prelate having done him the honour of putting the charge into his hands a few hours ago, he considered it his duty to affirm that it did not contain one word on the point al luded to by the Noble Marquis opposite. It was a regular ecclesiastical charge, such as a person in the situation of the Right Reverend Prelate ought to have delivered. There was not one word of unkindness, nor one word calculated to wound the feelings of any man, of any belief whatever. No one could read it without satisfaction, nor without entertaining respect for the person who composed it. For himself, he could only say that he had derived great and sincere pleasure from its perusal. Lord CAMPBELL, notwithstanding the denial of the Rev. Prelate, the qualification of the Noble Marquis, and the testi mony of the Noble Duke, must say, that on casting his eye over the document in dispute, he could not wonder at the mistake. The Right Rev. Prelate had adopted the language of another eminent divine, who had styled Popery as the master-piece of Satan. With such a strong and unequivocal expression he did not wonder that the charge had met with the interpretation so naturally put upon it, yet so loudly complained of. The Bishop of CASHEL—I said that some one had so said. —( Hear, hear.) Whatever I said was against Tractarianism of the present day. religion that the Sovereign of the State was bound to protec and support, and, further, the prerogative of royzlty would be annulled by the superintendence and control, whis..h of right belonged to it, being surrendered into the hands of Catholic priests, and finally to a foreign power. He did not believe that the present Bill would establish or promote any improvemeo in the social condition of the country for which it was intended, and the policy that instigated such a measure was, in his opi nion, indefensible and ineffably bad. He would not enter into ! any discussion on the heavy charges that had been brought against the College of Maynooth. Several Noble Lords, during last night's debate, had borne testimony to the erroneous nature of the doctrines dissemina'ed there. and the Noble and Learned Lord who had concluded the debate had confirmed the whole case by his lucid and incontrovertible arguments. During a long series of years no effort had been made. to obtain an in creased support . for the institution at Maynotath. Nothing had been said during that interval, and the inference to be drawn from the silence would be that it was not necessary to squander so large a sum of the public money in propagating Catholicism, as was contemplated by the present propeeed measure. Commissioners had been appointed to investigate generally into the condition of education in Ireland, and they had reported very voluminously as to the present state of the educational regimen at Maynooth. Evidence had been brought before the House, but it would consume a vast deal of time to consider singly the papers in which that evidence was con taioed. It might, perhaps, be an interesting inquiry to make, but in the absence of that evidence he would briefly refer to the statements of a late celebrated Lord Chancellor, who, in his official capacity as one of the visitors of Maynooth, had said that the young men there were brought up in a condition more servile and more degrading than at any college of the Jesuits ,• and that it was impossible not to notice the countenances of these young men, whose eyes were continually cast down to the ground, and whose whole demeanor showed they were discip lined to submit to the power of despots. Such was the testimony of a most respectable witness as to the condition of dings at May nooth, hut perhaps the principal question to be consiJered was, whether the proposed measure would be generally beneZcial to the interests of Ireland. All that had been heard and pub lished of the conspiracies, murders, and outrages of every de scription in Ireland had been the result of misgoVernment. The true character of the Irish people was excellent. There were none who were naturally more attached to the sovereign authority or more grateful for benefits received. And, on the contrary, there were no people who possessed so keen a sense of injustice and oppression, and, above all, there existed no people who had a more profound contempt for inconsistency, whether it was of a political tendency or of a religious nature. Ireland had been for too long a period subjected to be governed by the miserable resort of expediency—( Hear, hear)—and a wretched expedient was now contemplated in the proposed endowment, by making a weak concession to the priests, in order to gain their support in conciliating Ireland. The only true system, which was the Scriptural education scheme, had been thrown aside as ineffectual and was lost, and the domination of the priests, which had been tacitly allowed by the late Government, was openly encouraged by the present Administration.—( Hear.) The Bequest; Bill had not produced a contrary spirit in the country. They were still true to their Spiritual Lord, the Pope, to whom they had sworn to be faithful ; and nothing would induce them to sell their support of that principle on behalf of any other authority. This feeling was borne out by the whole history of Ireland, and it was afeeling which the Government could not but respect. No doubt there was a great difference in the state of Ireland now, compared with what it was before Sir Robert Peel took office, and for what he had done he considered him entitled to the confidence of the country. If, however, he forced the establishment of this institution of Maynooth on the country, it could scatter that confidence to the winds. Before that Right Hon. Baronet took office, Ireland was agitated in a serious manner, but on his accession to office, a state of comparative tranquillity was induced, arising, for the time, from the high constitutional feel ings which were aroused in the country by that event. Bat that state of tranquillity did not last long. Under the guidance of the able repeal agitator of that country, the people were brought into a state of unexampled excitement for the repeal of the union. While this was going forward, the Government was looking on with mute astonishment, witnessing the whole population of Ireland brought together to monster meetings, in tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands. The excitement showed the people of that country ready to follow one man wherever he chose to lead them, and then only restrained from acts of bloodshed, and actual rebellion, by that man, who exercised over them such unbounded control. At length the country was filled with troops, and the meeting at Clontarf was put down; then it was to be said to the repeal leaders was due the credit that no collision between the sol diers and the people did take place. In his (Lord Clancarty's) opinion if at first a vigorous effort had been made by the Go vernment to put down these proceedings it would have been successful, but ithe attempt was made too late. The people had become organised, they had learned to despise the Govern ment, and had active and intelligent leaders to guide them. Then followed the prosecution of the leaders, and that course was a failure—it did not serve the purpose of a vindication of the law of England.—(Hear.) Instead of this, - it weakened respect for the law, and caused the people of that country to lose all respect for the judges of Ireland, The Duke of WELLINGTON—My Lords, in debating this subject, I beg leave to submit that the question is a Bill for the establishment of a college at Maynooth. I do not know that the monster meetings, or the conduct of the Government in re gard to those meetings, bears any relation to the question. submit that the Noble Lord should attend to the question, and not refer to the Government respecting that which might be a proper subject of discussion at another time ; but is not at pre sent. The subject now is Mavnooth.—( Hear.) Lord CLANCARTY said lie did notconsider he was leaving the question by referring to the monster meetings, and could not bow to the opinion of the Noble Duke. He referred to the monster meetings, to show that if no respect had been shown to the law f England, great submission at least had been shown to another authority—that that deference which was not tendered to the Crown, was not withheld from the leaders of the Roman Catholic popula tion. Though the authority of the Government was so weak in Ireland, the power of the Pope was well known. Their Lordships would recollect that what he referred to was the submission of the people of Ireland to the Pope's rescript, at a time when the law failed to work out a similar submission. After the receipt of that document, a consultation of the bishops of Ireland was held in Dublin, and the result was an agreement to the principle of this endowment to Alaynooth. A strong feeling had been expressed by the Protestants of Ire land that the present Government was unable to govern that country, and he had stated these matters in order that their Lordships roight understand the true bearings of the question. Two years ago, when a measure was proposed to educate the poor factory children in the principles of the Church of England, a feeling was raised against it, and it was aban doned ; but now, while the voice of Protestant England and Protestant Scotland was unanimously raised against this en dowment, it was altogether disregarded.—( Hear, hear.) He admitted that healing measures—measures of improvement— were necessary for Ireland, but they should be such as, would tend to social improvement. But of all the measures origi nated within the walls of the English Parliament, that now before their Lordships to endow the College of Maynooth, and to recognise the Papal authority, was the last that should have been expected from an English Parliament, a Protestant Go vernment, and a British Sovereign.—( Hear, hear.) The Duke of CLEVELAND said ho was anxious to occupy a short time in the discussion, not so much to occupy their time in the consideration of the measure before them, as to vindicate his own consistency, inasmuch as he differed on this question with many of those with whom he usually acted. In supporting this Bill, which he conceived it was his duty to do, he was only pursuing that policy he had taken as his guide ever since his entrance into public life. The debate had hitherto been taken on religious grounds. Now he under stood from the Noble Duke who introduced the measure, that it was more of a political than a religious subject. In that view he (the Duke of Cleveland) wished to consider it. He supported the measure for the relief of the Roman Catholics in 181.5, when it was introduced, and supported it up to its being finally carried in 18A. He had been a regular sup porter of that principle from the time he entered the House of Commons in 1812, until it was brought to a happy termination under the auspices of the Noble Duke (the Duke of Welling ton) and Mr. Secretary Peel. For 17 years he acted with the Whig party, and supported every measure brought forward by them, with the exception of that of Parliamentary Reform, which he had always opposed. Since then, he had supported the Conservative party. His motto was now, as it had always been, " measures not men. " He could not see that any new principle was involved in this additional grant. It was true that the arguments which bad been adduced laid great stress on this being an annual grant. But if they were to take the circumstances under which the grant was made, the number of years which it had been allowed, he would ask them whether they could suppose that it was ever likely to be withdrawn ? Could they suppose that they could ever retrace their steps? Whatever might be the case, they might advance, but they could neverretrograde; to retrograde now was an utter impossibility. He did not think, therefore, that there was anything wrong in giving his consent to this grant, or any real distinction between a grant which was sure to be made annually and one which rendered that grant perma nent. With respect to ulterior measures he would not look at them at the present moment. There were persons who took a much more comprehensive view of the question than he did, and who conceived that this was only a prelude to other mea sures. He knew not that such would be the case, but he felt that he could only look at the measure before their Lordships as a measure isolated—as one without any consequence. It was in that way that he must consider it. He could not take it in connexion with any measure in the back ground. If it were so connected, and if were so put forward as a feeler to ascer tain the state of public opinion, and with a view to introduce measures of an ulterior consequence, though of a similar kind, it was a most complete failure. if they at all doubted that, let them look to the petitions which daily crowded their table. Those petitions were countless, and emanated not from any dis taut or obscure corner of the country, but they had poured in by thousands from every district, and from every town, from Beachy Head to John o' Groats. They might disregard public opinion now, as in some instances it had been disregarded, but they might carry the principle too far, they might push it to an extent which was not quite safe, and, in this instance, it bad been expressed with too much loudness and fervour not to be heard. In the advocacy of this measure, however, he had heard some sentiments expressed which be knew not how to comprehend. When he first heard those opinions stated he knew not rightly how to believe his senses. They had been expressed by a Noble Lord a member of the Government, and who held a position in her Majesty's household. He kne w not whether that Noble Lord (the Karl of Hardwicke) bad held any conference with the chief officers of the Government, but it did seem strange that that Noble Lord had stated that if the Roman Catholic Church was to be endowed the endowment should not come from the consolidated fund, but from the resources of the Protestant Church in Ireland. Ile (the Duke of Cleveland) knew not that such a project was in contemplation, but if it were so be trusted he should never live to see it. It was not for him to solve the difficulty, but it did seem extraordinary that one s whomi embe h r e o h f a n d e a r lw i‘ -a ia y j s e lo t o yt ed mo u u pe se n ho a l s d a , who w C h o o ns h e a r d vat be iv e % p p 0 i was t eh a d abeL supposedord of the t o kßedchambernow what by the the intentionsGovernment,of the and waho Governmentmight been were, should have held suc h op i n i ons. There might have a change in the vi ews o f t h e C a bi net, and of thepol . y which they intended to pur s u e , b ut w h en he recollected th e s peeches of the Noble L or d, f ormer l y the Secretary for Ireland, and who was now Secretary for the Colonies (Lord Stanley), as well as tho se o f S ir R o b ert Peel and others, to which hehad listened with so much delight in the House of Commons, he was led to believe that they would speak in the same way in which they intended to vote. Had the Noble Lord forgotten that it was for this very reason that Sir Robert Peel had re signed in 1835, and that for a similar reason Lord Stanley had left Lord Grey's Government? He had thought it his duty thus to express his sentiments, and he had done so with con siderable anxi e ty, an d repea t e d he saw nothing in this Bill to which he could not completely assent. He should therefore vote for it, though he was aware that in so doing he should be opposing the opinions of a great portion of the people of this country. Another course remained for him. He need not vote at all, but tbat was a course which he had never pursued in any debate, and it was one of the shabbiest expedients that could possibly be adopted. It was nothing else than publishing to the world that a man was not compe tent to form an opinion at all upon the subject. This was a measure which in some degree intimated the policy which they intended to pursue towards Ireland. They had many grievances to be remedied, and these remedies could only be ob tained through the means of conciliation or by the power of the sword. Whatever might be attempted, the sword of the State must ultimately prevail in any contest which might arise, however dreadful that contest might be. He was, therefore, glad that a policy of conciliation was affected towards Ireland ; SMALL DEBTS' BILL. The Earl of HARDWICKE presented a petition in favour of the Bill for the better security of small debts. MAYNOOTH. Earl RODEN presented petitions from various parts of Wales against the grant to Maynooth. Lord CHARLEVILLE presented petitions from Helstone, in Cornwall, against the grant. Lord DENMAN presented a petition to the same effect. Lord BROUGHAM presented a similar petition. ADJOURNED DEBATE. The Earl of CLANCARTY, in resuming the adjourned debate, said he thought it was a sufficient apology for his hav ing moved the adjournment, that only two in dividuals were suffered on the preceding evening to address the House in support of the amendment moved by his Noble Friend • but, independently of this fact, not one single Irish Member had yet had an opportunity of ad dressing their Lordships. He thought the admissions made by the Noble Lord who closed the debate last night, on the subject of the Roman Catholic Church, were strictly in favour of the amendment, and the Noble Lord was acting rather inconsistently in opposing it. It would be a consideration for her Majesty's Ministers how far they intended to carry out the principle of the proposed Bill.—( Hear.) The Noble Earl had asked if there were 151 benefices without a single Protestant in them. It appeared there were 10 with no Protestants in them, and 42 with 10 or less. In 24 there was no provision for them at all. He spoke of the saving truths of the Roman Catholic Church, and he spoke of its approximation to the Presbyterian Church. He (Lord Clancarty) could not agree with the Noble Earl in the explanation he had given of the proposed Bill. He thought the Scottish Church was a pure church, and were he in Scot land, he would willinglingly go and worship with the pro fessors of the Presbyterian faith ; but if, on the contrary, he were in a Roman Catholic country, he should feel that he could not conscientiously bow the knee before an image, or address himself in prayer to the Virgin.—(Hear. ) With the Noble Earl who followed him on yesterday's debate, he would most cordially agree with his sound and Protestant feeling. In every sentiment :that had fallen from him, with the exception of his observations on the Act of 1829, he would cheerfully coincide. He saw nothing in the emancipa tiors of the Roman Catholics that could argue danger to the Protestant Church.' It had not been argued that the Roman Catholics in Parliament supported any measure in opposition to the interest of the Established Church. They took oaths to bind them in respect to the interest of the Church, and they observed them with the strictest regard. He could say that many of his tried and most consistent friends in Ireland were Roman Catholics, and he always found them most desirous of acting for the general good of the country. He mixed with them at meetings of the boards of guardians and elsewhere, and he invariably found them anxious to do everything in their power to forward the interests of Ireland. He would say a few words in reference to what fell from the Noble Marquis on the other side of the House, who spoke last night. That Noble Marquis had brought a charge against a Right Hou. Prelate; but it was a great relief to him (Lord Clancarty) that the reply of that Right Rev. Prelate had been most satisfac tory. The Noble Marquis had withdrawn his charge, but he (Lord Clancarty) would have been better satisfied if he had done it in a more unreserved manner, and if he had given the Right Rev. Prelate notice of the charge he intended to bring forward. There was a great distinction to be drawn be• tween the course which the Noble Duke had adopted towards the Right Rev. Prelate, and the course taken by the Noble and Learned Lord opposite, in reading the garbled extracts which he had done. Though he could not look upon the Go vernment of the Noble Marquis with so much respect as he de sired to show, yet he felt deeply obliged to him for his admi rable Church appointments, as was evident in the appointment of Dr. Ponsonby. He would now allude to what had fallen from the Most Rev. Prelate the Archbishop of Dublin. He said that there appeared to be no distinction between favour and endowment, and persecution and intole rance. By the solemn promise which he had given he had engaged to drive away all error, and sooner than break his faith with this promise, he would resign his sacred profession and retire to a humble sphere. The real question was, whe ther the Roman Catholic was to be encouraged and made a friend of, or whether he was to be regarded as an enemy ? There could be no denial of the claims of the Roman Catholic people of Ireland to the consideration of her Majesty's Go vernment. But he did not think that the Government was under any obligation to uphold what the Noble Lord opposite ( Lord Beaumont) called the" immutability" of Roman Catholic doctrine. His Noble Friend, he thought, had made a sufficient case to justify an inquiry or examination into the tenets taught at Maynooth, and what bad fallen from a Noble Earl (Lord Hard wicke) with reference to Dr. Eaton onlyshowed the necessity for the amendment of his Noble Friend receiving the utmost consideration of the House. He certainly could not possibly agree to this measure, because it was in direct opposition to the oath he had made on first taking his seat amongst their Lord ships. He had sworn to sanction no measure which should give power to any foreign Prince, and vet he was now called upon to sanction an institution under the authority of the head of the Roman Catholic Church. There was a very strong feeling abroad on this question, for it was supposed out of doors that the Members of that House were bound by something more than their oaths. He, for one, would say he always held that the Members of the Legislature were bound by ser tain principles of legislation by which they were bound not to recognise the papal authority in any way in this realm. He had no doubt that their Lordships attached paramount im portance to their oath of allegiance, and it was because he knew that fact he had deemed it his duty to call their attention to this particular point. He would not trespass much further on their Lordships' attention, but he did hope that before their Lordships should make any hasty legislation on this important subject, they would consider well the points to which he had called the attention of their Lordships. He would never con sent to establish such a college for the education of Roman Catholics, as it would be interfering with her Majesty's right of supremacy over the ecclesiastical seminaries within the kingdom, and, in that respect, would be highly unconstitutional. Great stress had been laid on the fact that the religion of Maynooth had received the sanction and support of successive Governments. It was said that Mr. Pitt had founded May nooth, and that Mr. Percival had subsequently supported it. For his own part he could not justify an act that Tfi as e di in oittrelrfwu'ne justifiable, and in his opinion no act could be just _ otherwise than on its own intrinsic merits. It was an Act for the endow ment of a college for the education of Roman Catholics, and at the time it was considered objectionable that Roman Ca tholics should be obliged to resort to the Continent for their education, when they might, by an Act of Parliament, obtain that advantage nearer home, and in that respect it was con sidered a fair enactment ; and in 1795, and the three follow ing years, money was awarded for the purpose of establishing acollege, but it was kept under the power and control of the State. The Noble Earl had referred to the Charitable Bequest Act of last session, and he had some foundation for his objections, for it conferred upon Maynooth a corporate character for enjoying the endowments bestowed upon it, and on that principle was recognised the Roman Catholic church in Ireland, as subject only to the Pope's domination and con trol ; but that Act did not so positively acknowledge the Ro man Catholic church as the present proposed Act did. He would put it to the Noble Lord whether the present measure was not calculated to encourage the Roman Catholic religion? He would contend that no expediency could justify this mea sure for religious education in Ireland. If it was intended that such an Act should pass, let the oath of supremacy be at once abolished, and then might the policy now proposed by her Majesty's Ministers be proceeded with. He felt it his duty to give his support to the motion of the Noble Earl in the inquiries he had suggested should be made, and it would become Noble Lords to consider well before they gave their assent to the Bill before them. The principles of the Bill were to teach doctrines that were damnable to their recipients, and highly objectionable to the country, and which were opposed to the FIRE IN FENCHURCH-STREET. Tuesday a jury of the ward of Langboars were empanelled be fore Mr. W. Payne, City Coroner, at the Ship Tavern, Lime-street, to investigate the deaths of Mrs. Isabella Satchel!, aged 27, and Timothy Satchel!, her infant son, aged fifteen months, both of whom lost their lives in the distressing fire which occurred on the premises of Messrs Satchel], hatters, No. 100, Fenchurch-street, on the morning of Sunday last. Police-constable 599, William Riding, spoke to the discovery of the fire. He admitted his knowledge that a fire-ladder was kept on the wall of St. Dionis Church, but added that it was only 30 feet long, and would not have reached to thetop of the house. He had no knowledge that fire.ladders were kept against the East India warehouses in Lime-street. Police-constable 586, wins.= Dolby, deposed to having been on the spot a few minutes after the outbreak. He denied having seen any person at the windows of Messrs. Satchell's premises, but thought he recollected that Mr. Robinson told him, on making his esoape through the next house, " that he feared Mrs. Satchell was up stairs." He admitted to a juror his knowledge that there were flre.ladders against All Hallows church, but said that was not in his heat ; and in answer to the que►tion of an inhabitant as to whe ther he had not heard the exclamation of" For God's sake save the woman," he replied that he had heard Mr. Satchell Make that remark. who resided w ith M r. S atc h ell Ellen Goodwin, a young female, as domestic servant, said—l hare lived about six weeks with Mr. Satchell—l went to bed about half-past twelve o'clock on Saturday night. The k tchen fire was out before ten o'clock. Mr. Satehell and myself were the last up in the house. I did nut perceive any smell of fire when we went to bed. Mr. Satchell wentup stairs first and I followed him. I was awoke by by my master running up stairs. I heard him getting out of the trap-door, and I came out of my roo m a nd followed him. I had heard no alarm in the streets previou sl y . When I came out of my room the staircase was se full of s mo ke, that I could scarcely breathe. I did not see any flames at that time. When I got o n to the top of the house I saw dames proceeding upwards from the direction of the finishing shop. I did not see my mistress, but I recollect hearing her call me by :lame. She appeared to be waitin g on the stairs to see me out safe. I did not answer her. I could not speak. John Piercy, one of the office's of the Fire Brigade, proved find ing the bodies of the deceased is the third floor front room. The elder deceased was seated on tte floor just beneath the window, and the infant was partly resting upon her. A gentleman here stated this: Mr. Satchell was in attendance, and would be glad to state all that he knew of the circumstances. A chair having been placed for his accommodation, he was led into the room, and said that it was the habit of himself and his partner to take it in turns to go round the h ouse a f ter t h e busi _ ness was closed, in order to see that the fire and lights were all ex tinguished. It was his turn toperform the duty on:, “turday night, and he did so after closing the shop about half-past eleven o'clock. Ile found everything perleetlY safe, and having turned off the gas at the main, vas proceeding up stairs, when he met the maid servant coming down for some water. He accompanied her isto the cellar, and they re turned up stairs together. Mrs. Satchell had j us t gone to bed, and witness, after a short period, followed her. Mrs. Satchell was engaged in arranging some linen, and w it ness , being very much fatigued, undressed, got into bed, and fell asleep in a few minutes. He recollected Mrs. Satchell getting into bed, and was very shortly afterwards a'oused by her putting her hands on his chest, and begging him to get up, as the house was in flames. She was then standing on the right side of the b e d. Witness im mediately jumped out of bed, and taking his eldest child in his arms, proceeded with bis wife up to the attic floor, in the direction of a trap-door leading on to the roof. Witness had a distinct IMPORTANT DECISION. The Committee-room was then cleared, and, after remaining in de'iberation for nearly an hour, strangers were admitted, when The CHAIRMAN said it was no doubt known that the Committee could do nothing that evening, as there was no House, but as it would save much anxiety he would state what the Committee would do when they met to-morrow :—THE COM. MITTEE WOULD PASS THE PREAMBLE OF THE CORNWALL BILL, BUT THEY WOULD NOT PASS THE PREAMBLE OF THE WEST CORNWALL BILL. He should wish to know, to.morrow, whether, after their deci• •ion on the West Cornwall Bill, the St. Ives' Bill would be pro ceeded with.. The Committee then adjourned. GROUP R. BELFAST JUNCTION RAILWAY. The Committee met today, Mr. Gibson Craig, Chairman. ... The CHAIRMAN referred to an advertisement which appears in the Morning Chronicle of this day, from the solicitor of the Dublin and Cavan line, stating that the Committee had yesterday expressed an opinion in favour of that line. He (the Chairman) begged leave to say that such was not the case. The Committee had purposely abstained from the giving of any opinion at all ; and the publishing of the advertsement in question was highly Improper. Jt was here stated by Counsel that the arrangement suggested yesterday to be come to between the Belfast Junction and the Newry and Enniskillen was in progress, but not completed. The adjournment of the Committee was therefore requested in order to effect that object. The Committee, in pursuance with this request, adjourned for an hour. On resuming, the result of the negotiation was given in the fol.. lowing important agreement entered into by the competing Com panies :—" The Belfast Junction Company agree by their counsel to withdraw all opposition to the Newry line, upon condition that the Newry and Enniskillen Company, by their counsel, consent to the preamble of the Belfast Junction being forthwith reported as passed, and to the Committee so reporting it. " The Newry Company to be at liberty to proceed with their Bill, and to take their line from Newry by Armagh and Clones, and the Dundalk Company to be at liberty to proceed with their Bill, and take their line as far as Clones, all without opposition from the one Company to the other; the best line from' Clones to Enniskillen to be forthwith selected by Sir John Rennie and Sir John M‘Neil, and both Com panies to combine in constructing, and afterwards in working the line from Enniskillen to Clones, on such terms as they may mu. tually agree upon. or the Board of Trade may settle if the parties differ. The counsel for the three Companies to concur in re questing the approbation of the Committee on these Bills." This agreement having been completed, the Committee pro ceeded to hear evidence in support of the DUNDALK AND ENNISKILLEN. Several witnesses were then examined respecting the traffic on the line, the points of whose evidence presented no material feature worth recording ; at the close of which the Committee adjourned till to.morrew at twelve o'clock, when the evidence will be resumed. GROUP SS. COVENTRY, BEDWORTH, AND NUNEATON RAXIAXTAY. The Select Committee on this group re-assembled at the usual hour this morning, when Mr. Calvert made an application for an adjournment. All parties, he said, now concurred in the propriety of an adjourn ment, and if the Committee agreed to it he had no doubt of a saving of the time of the Committee, and a settlement of the differences subsisting between the parties. He therefore prayed the Com. mittee to put off the further consideration of this Bill till Mon. day next. The CRAIRMAN wished to know if all parties concurred in this application ? Mr. Spat:ass, on behalf of the London and Birmingham Com pany, was prepared to acquiesce in the application for an adjourn ment, but he was not in a condition to say that the result of this adjournment would relieve the Committee from further entering into this case, Mr. HUMPHREY, on the part of petitioners for whom he ap peared, would be extremely unwilling to throw any obstacle in the way of a satisfactory adjustment of the differences existing between the parties, but he must confess that he did not think the result of the adjournment would prove so satisfactory as his Learned Friend anticipated. Mr. DANIEL concurred in the adjournment upon the same grounds, and hoped some satisfactory adjustment of the differences would be made. The CHAIRMAN said the Committee were willing to assent to the adjournment, but they wished to iroceed at once with the EREWASH VALLEY LINE. Mr. CALVERT said he was not aware, until he entered the room, that an adjournment would be required in the other case, and he was therefore quite unprepared to proceed with the Erewash line. In fact, he thought most of his witnesses were engaged in another Committee. Under these circumstances he trusted the Committee would not press him to proceed at once, or 4t all events until he had had an hour or so to glance over his brief, and get his witnesses and clients together. Eventually the Committee decided upon adjourning . till twelve o'clock to-morrow, when it was understood ail parties would be prepared to go fully into the case for the Erewash Valley Railway. GROUP V. MANCHESTER, SHEFFIELD, AND MID- LAND JUNCTION RAILWAY. The Committee, consisting of the O'Conor Don, chairman, Mr. I. A. S. Davies, Mr. Hope Johnstone, Sir John Rae Reid, and Sir Denham Norreys, met this morning at half-past eleven, and Mr. JOHNSTONE proceeded to cross•ezamine Mr. Paul Bright, who had estimated the value of land required for spoil banks, sta tions, and other purposes on part of the line. The witness stated that he had received the quantities of land required from Mr. Fairbank, and had estimated it at the rate at which he really thought it worth. Mr. William Flockton—Was an architect and surveyor in the town of Sheffield, and he was also proprietor of some 150 houses in that town. He knew the value of land upon the line, and had carefully examined it lately, with a view to valuation. On the two miles reaching from the town of Sheffield he placed the value of 23,7291. That value was accepted in every case, with but one exception. He had been instructed to be very liberal in his valua tions, and he had followed out his instructions. He had also valued the ground which would be required in the hay and cattle markets of Sheffield ; and the ground required for piers be had esti. mated at 1,4821. The estimates, he was sure, were not taken be neath the real value of the property required. Mr. Fall, on the part of the Duke of Norfolk, was called to prove that the amount of toll paid on the Dumfries-road was only 181. per annum ; and that, therefore, the statement of 1,200 tons of coal passing along it was preposterous, because, averaging 9d. per mile for toll, that would be 2251. a year. He was certain, therefore, that the statements already given in were founded in error. • Mr. L. R. Reed had gone over the line, and he was certain that the estimates for the construction of the project were greatly underrated. Mr. John Barlow, a farmer, near Sheffield—Was in the habit of using the hay and cattle.market of Sheffield, and he knew that the epace now was much too limited for the purposes of the mar. kets, and any partition of it, or contraction of the space, would com. pletely destroy it. The Committee then adjourned at tbur till to-morrow. GROUP W. BRAYTON AND GOOLE RAILWAY. The Committee on this line met at twelve o'clock, Mr. Faking ton in the Chair ; Mr. Bouverie, Mr. Maxwell, Mr. Whitmore, and Lord Seymour present. Mr. Sheriff, whose evidence was partly heard yesterday, was cress-examined by Messrs. Bliss and Wilkins. He could give no evidence on the passenger traffic, being only engaged on the goods traffic on the Selby and Leeds line. Mr. Singleton, land valuer, had valued the land between Bray ton and Goole. A great deal ,` it was poor land, chiefly a sandy soil. The length of the line twelve miles, and he valued the cost, allowing 10 acres to mile, at 11,4001. He consi dered the line would eonfc tt benefit on the trade of that district. By Mr. W11.1E1115-11 we . an advantage in affording facili ties for the trade in lime a .uals, and also for the conveyance of agricultural produce. Mr. Birkenshaw, engineer of the line, was examined by Mr. KNOWLES—He had considerable experience in the working and construction of railways—laid out the Brayton and Goole. The line was nearly level, except that part near the River Aire and the Selby canal. The length of the line was 12i miles. There were not many curves, and these were not objectionable. The greatest curve was only three.quarters of a mile in radius. The worst gradients were 1 in 130. The line did not interfere with any ho , ise or park, &c. The line would afford a good communication with Leeds and Bradford, and even Wakefield, and would also open a communi cation with the North of England. Comparing it with the Wake field and Goole line he did not hesitate to give the preference to it, even as a communication with Wakefield itself. By Lord SEYMOUR—The reason he thought so was the more favourable gradients it afforded. The difference in distance was very little. By: Mr. KNOWLES—The engines on the Brayton and Goole line would carry out a load 50 per cent, greater than engines of the same power would do lay the Wakefield and Goole line. The ruling gradient on the Wakefield, Pontefract, and Goole line, was 1 in 150. That continued for 11 miles. The population on the Brayton and Goole line was about 31,000, and on the other line about 21,000. The witness then gave evidence on the gradients on the line of country between Goole, Leeds, Bradford, and the west, to show how much greater facilities, both in gradients, economy of construction, and in accommodation of goods and passenger traffic, the proposed line would afford as compared with the Wakefield, Pontefract, and Goole line. Cross-examined by Messrs. WILKINS and Buss —Got his popula tion returns from the census of 1841 that had been officially pub.. fished. Did not omit any town he found in the official returns. The reason he omitted Rocklin was because, in his opinion, it naturally belonged to the Goole line.—(A laugh.) Mr. Good, engineer, examined by Mr. PICKERING—Had consi derable experience in railways. Lived in London. The station at Bradford of the Leeds and Bradford line was very near the town, and was as favourable as could be selected for the public accommo dation, The Leeds and Dewsbury line was 60 feet above the level of 0 ° :t 63 ' i f (06 'die _~~