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I 6 66: 6 1,7, 6 1.1 6 6 t-.. ot' 1 C 4.., ..I 1 ' ~, - , 5 CO ..... C 7, CD ?h'o., 0:1 , -.c.: m c--, th c.ri CS - g.::. I - 6 1* lIIIiI I I 6 1 ,1 I:c•-• ci-7i. • :0 `J CO , CA ;w3 ci, i I I I c l 1 ' l ' I . 1' I . 1 - . .. , rt s I . „ LIVERED GRATIS No. 17. A Return of the Amount of. Duties on Timber imported into Ireland, from nth 1801, to sth ,linnary, 1821, distinguishing ,each Year ; and distin guishing the Timber imported from the North of Europe from that imported from America- ~~ . ~,.. l‘f ARRABLE, • Inspector-General of Imports ar. id Eay orts. Custom-House, Dublin, 11 2d March, 1821. 146. 18. Table . :Shoiving the Lengths, Breadths, and ThielMesSes of 'Deals, &r. imported from the North'Of Europe, with the Rate of Duty•thereorilidrload. a ig 7-7 I - tri. ~Hl it! C C C— cr. co s 1 '• s t,r 1. till 1111. 7.215 26 355 32,190 19,659 21,684 51,549 78,354 12,240 514, , ?.28 '..!06,345 516,327 bLtt exported front ST. PXTEnsBURG, RMA, AND ARCIIIiNGET, in the Weir 1820. St. Petcrsburgh Riga - - Archangel - 1,101,821 243,750 516,327 Standard Deals 1,861,898 Average quantity of Standard Dealsfor : B 'years Average annual Export from . Onega - - - 20 cargoes, each of 12,000 Standard I;:-als - - Wyberg. and other ports in Finland, 40 Do. Do. Narva - - - 20 Do. Do. Standard Deals FURTHER PAPERS AND ACCOUNTS Relating to this Subject, not inserted in' the preceding Report or Appendix. Petition of the .i)lerchams of Miramichi, in, favour ef the Timber rutie. LIST of EXPORTS from Iltai'for r the t Xlf. t - , 1820. Hemp, Rhine .:.: • - ----;- Outshot' " T --- -' ..r.--.....- Pass, ••• 4 ''''4"4:- ' + --- Cedilla - - .' i' • • Flax, Ist sort - - ---,-- 2d Ashes - - - Tallow - - - Masts , - - - Bowsprits - - - Spars - - - Timber - - - Deals - - - • The pieces in standard - Linseed, sowing - - , ----- crushing - - tons r il, --' ":t ' 4.! pieces 1,485 14,509 97,560 243,750 95,362 99,979 24,681 84,408 60,1'06 219,925 barrels qrs. Wheat - Rye. - - Barley Oats - - • This line was written in red ink. LEST of EXPORTS from ARCHANGNI:for the Year 1820. Iron - - - - Hemp - - - - Flax • - Tallow - - - Cordage - - - Potashes - Bristles - - - Wheat - - - Rye - - Oats - - - - Linseed - - - Tar - Pitch - - - Mats - Deals - - - - The plc-cc., in standard - tons pieces This line in the copy 'wr Attu in Teti ink. 2,070,799 240,0(X) 480,000 940,000 3,030,799 03 178 •,285 893 121 1,841 1,363 360 ; ~j casks tons casks qrs. ...... barrels cn 4a c. 9 cJ •-• I CZ C. C c cni I I 1 - I I c 0 c c. I, _ _ _ z. 4 :I,l* •44. W CA: , !••:' 0:5.• V...,..4,7.!•••• • 4, 4 111 1- I. -I- • . -.4 • o tr.; r ~~:.:~ . . crt' 4LI" I 1 .. 1 . . 1 _[ 1-r ri 11 1 r. I ' 1. CA I ' •P•• c.a '4 I ,^ .7..71' c"... . I 1 , 1 1 C.Z CC Cc P., 11111 11;111 . ' 1 ; ; I 1 .., . , .. .. - " - - - '.• r., , ~.... •. i ~.e. • ~..., _. ,_ ._.., .... ..t_ ~_ :.: .-_, r.... i . ...,-., :.,--- . _____ I 1 1 1111. L'T )4. 1. _ _ I . t • C: C 0 i • • p (1% t. I. 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A petition of the there-undersigned merchants, ship-owners, and magistrates of Miramiehi, in the province of New Brunswick, was presented, and read; setting forth, That it is not without ii, - eat anxiety and alarm the petitioners have heard that an alteration of the existing arrangement of timber duties is contemplated to be proposed in the next session of parliament, and such an alteration as, if adopted, must ruin a trade which, with due encouragement, will continue to be of incal culable.advantage to his majesty's colonies in North America; that not only are the merchants, ship-owners, and timber -cutters, but all other classes of people in that province, benefited by the trade, and. as one proof among the many the pe titioners could. adduce in support of this fact th e y beg leave to state, that farmers (who a few years ago raised only enough from their lands for the support of them selves and their families, and had no incitement to raise more, because there were then no . ,purchasera for what they could spare) have, since the commencement of the timber.trade, increased their exertions in clearing and improving, their lands, entirely on account of the brisk demand for all sorts' of farming produce required for the use of the timber-cutters and others connected With the trade, and many industrious and deserving, emigrants have heen enabled to settle on the wilderness lands- of that country solely by_ means of the merchants advancing to them. the supplies necessary for their support until their_ landa,Were brought to a state of cultivation to yield them a subsistence; the supplies so advanced were payable in timber, which is generally prepared for market during the long winters, when neither farming nor fishing can be carried on; and that, from a thorough con viction that the imposition of a duty upon colonial timber, or any reduction in the duty upon that from foreign countries, would, by destroying the trade of that country. prove utterly ruinous to,a' large proportion of its inhabitants, without the least possibility of any of them being benefited thereby, the petitioners are non induced to address the house; that in theftillest.reliance upon a continuance of the support of government, and naturally conceiving that the interests of the colonies would never be sacrificed to advance those of fOreign stations, the mer chants of that i lace have expended vast sums in for.i.ing establishments suitable. for carrying on the timber trade, and have been'in the habit of importing, and do still continue to import, British manufactured goods to a large amount, which goods they advance to the timber-cutters, who Lave no other way of making pay.. ment!.but - in the - article of timber; that, in the event of. such a stop to the trade as the imposition of the proposed duty would occasion, those costly establishments must go to decay, the timber-cutters could never pay for their supplies, and all importation of British gOods must cease; for the merchant there depends exclu sively upon the exportation of timber to Great Britain to make his remittances; that white or yellow pine ( of which description the great bulk of the wood of that country consists)was shipped,' and is now - shipping, at from fourteen shillings to eighteen shillings 'per ton, which latter is the very lowest rate at which it can be ' prepared for market: even at these low rates the importation into the mother country this season yielded perhaps in no instance any profit beyond the employ ment of shipping ; and, •in several cases within the knowledge of the petitioners, was attended with lots to the importer ; it is therefore obvious that no duty, how ever small, can he borne, and that the high duty proposed would amount to a complete prohibition of colonial timber; that the ruin of those immediately con nected with th, trade would not be the only evil effect of such .alteration of the duties, , the fisheries of the colonies would be materially injured, for the salt used in those fisheries is, almost *without a single exception, brought out in vessels chartered_ to carry timber home, this return freight enables them to bring the salt at •a - rate , which the petitioners think would be trebled at least in the- event of a cessation of that trade, add that all the timber brought to this market, or of the growth , and manUfacture of the province; ' the petitioners feel a ride in having it in theirpower to say, , that it more loyal 'people than his majesty s subjects in that province, are not to be found in any part of his dominions ; and they are fully per suaded that nothing but the withdrawing the protection hitherto afforded them ; and thereby destroying all prospect of their earning a comfortable subsistence - in that country, could possibly induce them to remove to a foreign state; distressing as the abandonment of the country wo hi be'to individual feeling a alarming as it un doubtedly is; 'in a national point of view, and reluctant as the petitioners are to anticipate a state' of things . so dreadful', yet, from a sense of duty, they feel com pelled to state.. as their decided and deliberate opinion, that a speedy depopulation of some districts of that country will follow that -almost total annihilation of its trade, which would be the inevitable-consequence of the contemplated alteration in the timber duties ; vast numbers of emigrants, as well as of the youth of the country, and others who have not yet acquired a fixed residence in it, atid there fore do not come under the denomination of permanent settlers, and a number, who are now considered of this latter description, would go to some country where farming can (or where they imagine it can) be carried on to more advantage' than in that; and it is but too probable, that that country would be the one, whose ambitious designs all the energies of those provinces may one day be -required to ' counteract; the petitioners beg leave to add to this, - their respectful representation, a staternisnit of the number 'of yeSaelgthat have been loaded in the river Mirainichi alotfe, with the'-quantity` of square timber they carried, during the under-men iieined periods : --- , From May • to 20th November . 1817, 210 'vessels, carrying 7 '2 ',O 3 3 tons square tiniber;:'frorn May to December •1218, 27P, vessels,' carrying p;osl3 , t'orils:SqWire tithbera--from May to December I 819,.-297 vessels, carving it (*MI tons - square timber; in addition to which, masts, spars,. oars.' lathwood, planks, and stares, to a large amount, were also exported to Great Britain during 11 1 b I : . 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