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made a question upon it, Imposition was therefore itennf.sible in this case--The Hon. Gentleman had said that - he was not infallible ; he was glad of that a surance from himse,f, otherwiA he. could not have - been- bohrenough to offer any',anstv'er to him. For want -of that absolute • inhillibility to• which the Honourable Member approached, he had by the merest accident omitted to take notice of one lane which was at the head of this Accoupt, and in the very .Title of it : for it was stated to be an Account of the Affairs of the: East-India Company,. " exclusive of , their Capital Stock." And this was the account . ,thatovas framed. for the purpose of deceiving the Public by omitting that which they:professed to omit, but this was the ob servation of an Hon. Gentleman Wl.O was not infal hide. As to what had been said upon the condua of the NoblA i Lord (Lord M 1,1 ,, LLE) who preceded Nolif..t. Friend in' this Department,. Mr. Dundas . .sai l d - that. he had stood some time in the light of a -. parent to Mtn, that any, thing be could say of him Must, ofeourie be accompanied by partiality as well as veneration. That Noble person,stood upon Isis character in that House, and before the Phlic, by whOm he was well known, and he hoped esteem ed..,.l3ut the Honourable Gentleman had said that ••• that Nolale Person had, for the last twenty • years, held out promises which had not been 'kept, on the, Affairs of the East India Company, that he had made no difference in his comparative • Statements between a. time of Peace and a time of War. In the first place, for twenty years he would not have made this comparative Estimate as between Peace and War at all, because for much of that time there was no War, nor did this comparative Estimate commence until' the year 1793, which was the, period of the renewal of the Charter of the Com pany. But since that period, the Noble Lord al luded to had uniformly made a difference between the Estimate in time of Peace and that. of War, and , that the so° 0001.. a. year from the Company to the Public could (lever be thought of until a time of Peace'; and yet the Hon. Gentleman had roundly • said that that Noble Lord , had made no difference between peace and War, in the Statement of the Affairs of the East India Company, hut then this came froM a Gentleman who was not quite infallible. Mr. FRANCIS explained. Sir F.'1,1 ARING ohserved i that the Noble Lord who' had brought forward this important business, h a d speeulated upon some topics in which he could not follow him ; but the Noble Lord had an ardent mind, and took upon himself a burden which ano ther had staggered under for many years. The Noble Lord who had for many years had, the super ' intendance of the affairs of the Company; had some time siisce published sometliing,of a Political'Testa ment He had sfated that the Company, by great eacerions in time of Peace, might pay off one mil litrit The Company had entertained an idea of doing this in a more vigdrouS Manner, and instead of paying off one million, to pay two mil. lions annually, and not to create one penny addi ' tional Stock. The Noble Lord's Predecessor, .in his calculation for the thirteen years, never alluded to the soo,oool. participation of the Public, which.the Notate Lord this night premised to the Public. He believed, that in a few years the Pub ' lic would have the gratification of seeing that paid, provided peace continued. His principal reason for"rising was, to take notice of what the Noble 'Lord said respealog the increase of Capital Stock, or Debt. That was a matter which the Court of Direetors would receive 'with great reludance ; and by the attention which the Noble Lord paid to the affairs of die East India CoMpany he would observe, that great promos was made by them in •the pay ment of ..their, Debts in India, without raising . Stocka but, the mode propos:al would be taking money away from commercial purposes, and apply ing it to the payment of political Debts. The Capital already in the Service of the India Company was fully adegnate to the pay meat of their Debts. Lord CASTLEREAGII said, lie did not mean .• • to express any opinion how far it would be proper for the East India Company to raise Fonds, by adding to the Capital of the Company's Debt. He had stated, that no more. than two millions would be wanted, and that in the worst point of view, there would be three millions applicable to the purposes --of their Commerce. He would not now enter into the 'question,' of whether it was expedient to refer to these resources for the payment of their Dcbts; perhaps they might raise their Credit by redeemable Securities in Europe. The Company had no diffi culty, fur whether they added to their Capital or not, they wotild in time of war have one million, in time of peace two millions, applicablc'to the re elation of their Debt annually, after providing for An their engagements. Sir T, Al ETC ALFE proceeded to answer the ob. servations of Mr. FRANC Is he said they were un founded, and he defied that Hon. Member to shew wherein the Statement now upon the Table was false. He had abused all the India Company ; he bad said theylnid fabricated accounts, for the pur pose of deceiving the, Public with a false balance : he would tell that Hon. Member that he had assert. ed this inearreetly ; and he would - tell him further, that every' Member of the Court of Direaors of the India Company_ was as incapable as he was of mak ing out a false account for the Public, or of im posing on any body. Hi denied this charge, and he told that lion. Gentleman that he Could not prove it. ,He would .iiso.ask whether it was likely that this was a fabricated Account on the part of the Com pany ?--Had it been fabricated they would have made it in their own favour, whereas this was against theinselves, and in favour of the Public. He wished Gentlemen tO take some care of What they aaid ; that Hon. Gentleman hest - knew why he made this attack on the Areaors of the East India CoMpany, 'but this he knew, it was no light matter to charge them with fabricating false Accounts for purposes • of deCeptioq. The rionobrable Baronet who had lately spokeni had .diffe'red in some .pointi from the,Noble Lord who had brought this subjel for_ ward, but then he h4(.1 too much candour and libera. lity to Charge the Accounts as being false to deceive any body. The truth of the matter was that the real situation of the affArs of the Company had undergone great alteration both at home and abroad. In forme r times it frequently happened that the ..Compauy was rich in Bengal, but poor in England, pogAt 111 ii relt:.:Se was the civic, l for abroad tb")' had we , ro. rirt. Ti'.... .1.. of military operations they were oblige,d to borrow money at very disadvantageous terms, and they had increased their Bonded Debt, which in point of sound , policy ought never to have reached its present state —bUt the whole account was before the Committee, and it was very hard to have it said that they ,fabricated any accounts: this was an assertion which he,did not expett to hear from any Hon. Gentleman of that House. Haying passed over the Accounts of the Company, he . proceeded to take notice of the Capital of 7,780,0001. which the Hon. Gentleman had said, was wilfully left out of the Account ; the faCt was, that by an Ad of the Legislature itself, this was guaranteed to the Company at twelve mil lions, and therefore it would be wrong to state it in the Account ; there was here something which was the reverse of deception, for being guaranteed to the Company at twelve millions, it was the more in favour of the'Company than the Hon. Gentleman had stated, by the difference between that and seven milliOn,.BoO,oool. There was tiowa clear balance in favour of the Company, in comparison of the year 1793, of two millions two hundred thousand pounds, and opwards. He then proceeded to observe on the cotilluCt of the Noble Predecessor of the .Noble Lord who brought this business forward (Lord MEL. if F.) whose whole conduct he approved highly, - it being distinguished by the wisdom of an able and upright Statesman. The Noble Lord now in the same department was treading in the steps of his most able Predecessor, and from the diligent appli cation of his excellent talents, he might become his equal, more perhaps was unattainable. But there was much yet to be done in the subjed of Indian Politics, and if this pleasing prosped held out, the Company would be relieved, and the Public have a participation of 500,0001. a year besides.' Having said thus much on the general question before the Committee, he must beg permission to say a few words on behalf of the Proprietor of India Stock, at whose risk India had been under great agitation, and quartered and divided, bUt yet preserved to the British Empire. The Proprietor had never received more than s per Cent, for his, capital, a s u m w i t h which no shop-keeper in London would be satisfied. He submitted whether or nor it would not be wise to take the subject of India Stock into consideration and allow the Holder it per Cent. which he was convinced would be of ultimate advantage to the Public. India never could be a drain upon this Coun. try, but might assist it abundantly. The granting of this I I per Cent. would raise the price of Stock immediately. Having stated some advantages from this plan, he concluded with observing that India, under wise dire Lions, might become of more ad vantage to this Country than it derived from all its other Colonies together. The question was . then put and carried, and all the Resolutions were voted pro forma. The House being resumed, the Report was received immediate ly.7—Ordered to be taken into further consideration on this - day se'nnight, and that the Resolutions be printed. ALLXA NDE R. brought up the Report of the Committee of Supply, which was read tend agreed to. CIVIL LIST. • The CrtANORIA.OR of the ExcIIEQUZa gave notice that he should on Wednesday Move for the appointment of a Com mittee, to take into Consideration the charges upon His Ma. jesty's Civil List, and the most etredtual means to prevent their accumulation in future. TONNAGE DUTY. The LORD MAYOR said, that in consequence of the pp sent situation of the, Country, he should postpone his in. tended Motion respecting the Tonnage Duty till Wednesday fortnight. The'Committee on ,the Irish Courts Bill was postponed till this day fortnight. Mr. Ar.sxAmoza brought up the Report of the Irish Customs Bill, which was read and agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. • Mr. ALEXANDER also brought up . the Report of the Irish Lawsuits Hill, whiettwas read and agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time on Friday. • A new Writ was ordered for the Shire of Mr, in the room of WiLLI A M FuI.I.A.R.TON. Esq. now one of the Commis „ siOners lOr settling the I sland.of 'Trinidad. IRISH MILITIA. Afro WICKHAM said, the Motion he was abriut to make was not exactly according to the notice he had given, but he apprehended that it came within the spirit and - meaning of it. Tl►e Militia of Ireland had been partly raised by means of Volunteers, to whom a Bounty was given of two pounds per man. This having, however, been found ineffedual for the purpose of completing. the Militia of that Country, the ob. pet of his intended B►ll was .to enable, the Lord 'Lieutenant to increase that Bounty. He..theretbre moved, in the first instance, for a Committee of tha whole House, to-morrow, to take into consideration the Irish Militia A6I of this Ses sion.—Ordered. The further consideration of the Irish Militia Bill was postponed till this . day fOrtnight. GRENADA, The House resolved itself into a Committee on the Report of the Committee ,on the Petition of the Merchants and Planters of Grenada and St. Vincent's ; and the House hav ing resumed, the Chairman, directed by the Committee, moved for leave to bring in a Bill-to extend the tune t)r the payment of certain sums of Money due from certain persons in those Islands. 7 -I,eave given. The Committeesof Supply and Ways and Means were de ferred till 'Wednesday. The .Expiring Laws Bill passed through a Committee. Report to-morrow. Adjourned at Nine o'clock till to-morrow. MAILS. DUE. ARRIVID. 'Tolland o tiarnburgh 6 THE SUN. 801.1E1.4 ta,UIS uicsa a IALSUM At/DIAT ? LONDON, MARCH Is, 1803. YESTERDAY, we stopped the Press to announce the receipt of Paris journals to the r zth instant. Dn the ioth, the French Funds were, by the Moniteur, at 61. 25. ; but according to private,Let. ters, they fell 6n the following day tosz !—This we state merely upon the repurt.of private Letters, without vouching for its truh. An Extraft of a Letter from the Cape at St. Do. »tiny, dated the i ith of January, is given In some of the Paris Papers, which states, that Port.del- Paix had been retaken by 2000 men who had ar rived from Toulon. The Blacks sustained a confiia for five hours, when the French Troops entered the place, and, according to this Letter, with the loss The Expedition destined for the East Indies, was about to sail from Brest on the ad instant. It con. sists of one Ship of the Line, of 74 guns, four Frigates, and one Transport, with two Battalions s 01 the Line on board, a Company of Artillery, a Company of Guides, and the Officers of two Battalions of Sepoys, which are intended to be formed in India. The Swiss Landamman, D'Ar FRY, arrived at Berne on the ad instant, where he was received with all the honours due to his office. REDING, HIRZE L, and AUF-DER-MAUR, are, it is said, to be set at liberty, on condition of declaring to General NE Y what City in France they chuse for their residence. It appears from this that these Patriots are to be exiled from their Country. General NE Y is stated to have declared to the Helvetio Govern ment, that after the loth of March, the French Troops in Switzerland shall no longer be charge. able to the Helvetic Republic, but that they shall be supported entirely by France. When they are to evacuate that unfortunate Country is not stated. A Convention is said to have been signed at Paris, which regulate; the Indemnities of the Et EC TOR of BAVARIA, for the loss of the Bishopric of Eichrrett. The ELECTOR IS to receive several Commander ies of the Teutonic Order, and Ellwangen in Suabia, ceded to the Duxit of WIRT EMB ERG, who will obtain in exchange the County of Hohen. Ilerg, renounced for that purpose by His IMP ER IAL MAJESTY. Two months are, it is said, yet likely to elapse before the Dlfinitive Conclusuns is con. verted into a Law of the Empire. -Great part of these Palters is occupied with the proceedings of the Legislative Body, which are ex.. tremely uninteresting. The illonitear is entirely silent on the discussions between this Country and France. Several English Gentlemen were presented to the FIRST CONSUL at the Diplomatic Audience of Sun- day se'nnight. A Dutch Mail arrived this morning, the con. tents of which are very uninteresting. Mr. OTTO, who resided so long in this Country, will, it is said, be appointed Ambassador from the French Republic to the Court of Berlin. The last letters from Toulon state that Admiral DE WINTER was about to sail from that Port for Lisbon. Yesterday morning, about half past nine o'clock HIS MAJESTY, accompanied by General MAN. NERS, rode from the Queen's House to Kew and Richmond, and after inspeeting the works and im provements cart ying on there, returned to the Queen's House about three o'clock. About 12 o'clock HER MAJESTY and the PRINCESSES, attended by Lady CRANLEY, took an airing in two Coaches, and honoured the Countess of AYLESBURY with a morning visit at her house in Seymotir Place. In the evening, THE IR MAJESTIES had a Con. cert and a SeleCt Party. Yesterday His Royal Highness the DUKE of YORK came to Town from Oatlands, and attended his Office at the Horse Guards, with his Secretary, Lieut.-General BROWNRIGG, who quits his situit. tion for that of Quarter-Master-General of His Majesty's Forces in England, in the room of Ge neral DUNDAS. Coionel CLINTON rakes the situa tion of Secretary to His Royal Highness. Yesterday morning, soon after eleven o'clock, His Royal Highness the DUKE of CUMBERLAND set off from his apartments at. St.. James's, fur Wor cester, to join his Regiment. Yesterday General A NDLEOSSY had a long inter view with Lard HAwitesxturvi, at his Office in Downing-street. Yesterday Sir JOHN, Lady CALL AND ER, and Family, arrived at their house in Mansfield -street, from Paris. Sunday afternoon, at six o'clock,. as His Royal Highness the Pit iptcE of WALES was retarning m his chariot to Carlton House, through Sr. James's street, it broke down, owing to thfi axle-tree of the fore wheels ,giving way. Hisr.Roysil Kighness, we are happy to hear, sustained no material injury, as he walked to Carlton House immediately after the accident. The coachnUa was thrown from his box, but luckily not 'hurt ;' 'and the honies were with some diffi;:ulty stopped, atter drawing the car. riage more than twenty yards on three wheels, Mr.RoaElurs and Mr. BOSANQUET, the Chair. man and Deputy Chairman of the East-India Com pany, waited on the Board of Admiralty yesterday, to represent the situation, in, which the Company's Ships arc placed, by their Seamen being impressed; in consequence of which, protelions have been granted for the purpose of manning their Ships, and enabling them to proceed on their respective voyages. COVENT GARDEN THEATRE.—MUNDEN being indisposed, the part of Dominique; in Paul and Virginia, was performed by WATHEN, from Drury Lane Theatre, The new Comedy of John Bull was so atttaaive, that before the Half-price, the usual board was placed at the door of the Boxes to inform the crowd that the House was full. Sunday morning early several idle persons assem bled in a field.at Islington, for the purpose of seeing a pitched battle, which was to have been. fought there; but the Police Officers having received pre_ .viotri notice of the intention, many of them were taken into custody, with a view of being better em ployed on board His Majesty's Ships,. , The average price of Brown or Muicovado Sugar, computed from the Returns made for the week end ing the gth day of March, 18 031 i s Thirty eizht .... • NilV/IL NEWS• PORTSMOUTH, MAR CH t 4. Tests morning His Majesty's Frigate Caitarcatne into Harbour to refit. The Pigmy Cutter, Lieutenant Wnirr, and Venerable, of 74. guns, Captain SEARLE, this day went out of the Harbour to Spithead. The greatest exertions are employed at this Port to fit the Ships ordercd for Commission. DEAL, MARCH 14. ARRIVED the La Pique Frigate from the Nortlr. ward• LIVERPOOL, MARCH 12. ON Wednesday a warrant for impressing Seamen was received here by Capt. WALLts, of His Ma jesty's Frigate Naiad, now lying in the river, and that night and the fol'owing morning, a most severe press took place ; in the course of which many of the ships in the river, and most of the vessel', coming in or going out, were entirely stripped.- - " The inferior Officers, and even the Mates, were not spared. Yesterday Lord KEITH set off for Plymouth, where he is appointed to the Chief Command. Yesserday Sir SIDNEY SM ITH rece ived his Corn mission, appointing him to the Command of the Antelope, of 5o guns, and a Flying Squadron, to ctuize in the Channel. The Enterprize arrived yesterday morning off the Tower, from Deptford, to receive Volunteers and impressed Seamen. 'T'HE DUTCH MAIL. AUGSBURG, MARCH 2 • LETTERS from Verona say, that movements are making among the French Troops in Upper halls which seem to, announce the projeft of occupying some maritime places in this country. These move• ments may likewise have a relation to the future fate of Sardinia, the prolongation of the stay of the English Troops at Malta, or the cruizing of an English Squadron on the coasts of Italy, BRUSSELS, Frt. 28. A French Courier on his way from Paris to Pe• tersburgh, passed through this City last night.-0 Couriers have for some time past been very ire. quent between Paris and Berlin. It is said that Mr. OTTO, who fulfilled so ho nourably his Mission in England, is appointed Ambassador from the French Republic to PRUSSIAN MAJESTY. cipal Judge t o t h e P re f e et s o f our Acenrdin to a circular letter sent by th e P iqua D epa rtments, those Belgians wh o are i n t h e ser vice of the Emperor or othe r F ore i gn P owers , shall quit that service by t h e 23 4 o f S eptem b er e nsuing, and take the O at h o f Fid e li t y to t h e F reac h Republic ; or if they will not d o t hi s , a certa i n t ime shall be appointed, within which they shall sell their estates in France, and be considered as Foreigners. The Commercial People at Brussels, Antorrto Lowen, Ghent, &c. are now employed in drawing up memoirs relative to the means of promoting the trade of Belgiu:n, which will be presented to tbc First Consul on his arrival in these Departnients. HAGUE, Ft s. za. Txe Batavian Soldiers who were upon furlough, have, it is said, been detained at Fenloo, and will be transported by the French as Prisoners, for having attempted to excite the F renc h Soldiers to desert. AMSTERDAM, Fzs. 26. Ac coaDING to accounts from Vice-Admiral Ds WINTER, of the 3oth of January, he was then with his Squadron of three Shipsof the Line, a Corvette , and the Sauffilaar Schooner, at Toulon, .and in tended soon to sail for Li.ibon. This sufficiently contradias the false report that ,Admiral DB Wi ll '. TM had sailed from Toulon to Sardinia, and Made' French Troops on that Island. ie .1. e. , i YXSTIL 132nk Stock NAvy ;per Cent. 965 7 i , er Cent. *797, shut tish 5. per Cent. 4 per Cent. Con. shut per Cent. Red. shut 3 per Cent. Con. 64 2 3 tjittq Scrip . Bank L. Ann. shut Ditto Short Ann. Ditto Scrip India Stock 207 South Sea Stock L' YLl:B< L,litlli s. s. dis. Furvidoic ditto rcin. 3rl ExclyAkter itilis dis. Orninum 14 t3i linpet. 3 per Ditto Min. dank for opening.. 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