The Sun. — London, England, 1844-06-01 00:00:00

A. LS; )NN ~RSER~' ENCJ prononv; nell and ,1 > TWEL ti ~ . I 00- 11 ' Mr. hard B ' nmen4 aretie St4 r e s 5 000 1 0' ,rav erse ref eacb, sa id the DG de 'a 80 0 , d. into a O k fi i mraitted now a l / I ;ace he l , 9 ; from 00144 tnd a l tb ov °4 ,nds araonE" repeate d ' 11'1 displeaseL" t tody of to the Vlc of the r,f°' Mr. Jo"' 'er took In Mr. o'''d l lueen's ;lace aglbilop the elcePp, rosed el uP°llOl an sll o ., greatlY l l his unlorthi en :bers,cL i perseveTail ,ted War ailed li te Pl. gre e ,„o l , the in'" Jude;en's vs. Le C0° 11 1 1641 ,,g occoPr — i, . E. I .'• !'s,o r averse. io v ed Ca u 4e An, M r * t ) Li e utea tioo of a m° ti e a5 . ., ° 01'6 1 detei— ,rtec_l_2l4bf oppv— ng .ersero t, •in • itt ce i proud mug to I° bo* versw e d folloYl,se ~•.-._. th e. '„ traverse_ ""ciPal terse r intended to carry his great object, vi oleu 'e t Peal of the union, not, I do not say, without'_ means, nor without exciting terror, w h i s t L ° l any infraction of ,the üblic peace, and without tip al g a single drop a blood. Ido believe that the prin k w. , ayerser had this intention firmly in his mind, and that thepess,_. w i reat influence. and the great authr he , g tli the parties who joined with h o im in it h y that is dusign I,4„.'4eet enuablecl him to do so—th at ena bl e d hi m to preserve the ituroken. But, then, let it never be ,'orgotten that a , with all th e mot i ves, and all the desires that could : °4 a human b e i ng --that a person, who would no more _ t a ct of violenc e , or l east o f a ll an as o f bl o od s h e d , k oth o It himself no more than 'he would authorise po w : * Person —let it never b e f orgotten t h a t a person se ver t ag the authority, and having that .design, can th e , r , t ell 'nor know how long he can keep that, or keep sid em - ' 4ll ,trY, or the parts of the country over which he pre din,la,as influe rom the evils of rebellion and the shed ulo,d4 It does not depend upon him, it cannot do so. I , owe a d l eassages in the speech of the principal traverser No, that this feeling, or something like it, was on his do wn wiaell he made speeches for the purpose of putting hik e , io lence. He stated, over andurer again, that it mu.t r e ,„_ i Place, that it should take place, and that he would only , I,`La la their leader as long as they continued peaceable; that he that repeal should be carried, and he added, Lln odsh e_ . linPed and trusted it would be carried withoat riol e and he called upon them not to commit le t e s ee, for, if they did so, he would cease to be their sen t he ' that during his lifetime there should with his con km,' no violence, but that when he ceased to be their t i; ; either by his death, or finding it impossible to con ellnessel; they would then be left to themselves. All these Ite ms 1°_ 13 4 shewed how anxious was his desire by every P!'es, ed his Power to preserve peace ; and whether he ex-- L.114 r al it Or not,. that was the effect of all he said and did„ the n;; these circumstances, however deeply we must lament son, s eery of awarding exemplary punishment to such a per sozsideoil :- there are citcumstai.ces to be taken into cots i r rat ion—and that do not lessen the crime of fou 4 l 4acY. as it was stated in the indictment, and eaeryi,,Y the jury. All these constitute a high misdemeanor kost el l a severe punishment. It is a high misdemeanor, bight Pahl% most dangerous—dangerous to an extent, I ;Dier efo fY4 approaching in its tendency to civil war. It, Ina e 'e - 2, of necsssity leads to severe and sitrual.punishment. lfre lit , °r iling that punishment, the Court feels that however p ti b lie the offence has been—however dangerous to the stictea,velfire—however necessary the punishment to ou b ld e h ave however considering that . the ;emi c roiweu, and did lead, to convulsions of the public the (; , 0 t he effects of which are yet to be seen—still r eds feels that it is not to be led away either by feelings 141, isi l i gELat ion, nor by any desire to inflict punishment for tree ko'nent's sake ; but that it behoved us to bring our minds 4it a , 1 1' t rnbiaSSed from external influence to the subject. A ent i „ a4 been Committed which calls for exemplary punish- Itto e to prevent the same persons from committing the • t r nee again, and to deter others of the same views lfmi.e Perpetration of similar acts. For myself, and I may, ~ei --' l l a d d, all the Court—l am sure that. their minds 'ton : "'ela brought into exactly the proper state to ex-soler the case. We are bound to award punishment of lo.l„fraaplary kind ; but, at the same time, determined not I the anY opinion of our own as to the offence to guide us sue nC en tence t strictly to examine and conclude upon 4,,edracter oft hat offence. With these views the Court hi c h e O r al'e to the judgment now determined upon, and l'ats am about pounce. The Learned Judge here to pronoun . 'eke burst into tears,' and when he was able to resume, ut peet:n almost inaudible tones, these words o l tthe principal traverser, the Court is of opinion that tat f„''' be sentenced to be imprisoned for the space '"„_ the calendar months, and that he is further to be fined ,Mts, - 4 ‘ 8 ,a,n 1 of 2,000/.—(Loud cries of " Oh, oh" in variot . is • s Court)—and bound in his own recognisances in • ( ,„ of 5 ,000/ , and two sureties in 2,5001., to keep the h a ",* S even years With respect to the other traversers, *'esa n .,%cine to the ' conclusion that to each shall be allotted sentence; which is, that they be imprisoned for the calendar months, each of them to pay 50/. fine, liti reti tr ,, into their own recognisances of 1,0001., and two After 5 °Q, to keep the peace for seven years. k r. the lapse of a-few moments, bttei; Ceeonnell rose, and leaning over the table towards the aodlv addressed Judges—l beg to remind your that I Made a solemn affidavit, denying for myself 1 ' 3 ,t 00 4, 41c Part-of the other traversers, that I had entered rat 11 1 ."„ e r.inae of conspiracy with them ; and it is now with litf s isgrot that I have to express that' I am under the e,at e , s - isconviction that justice has not been done.—(Loud '', l tidlre broke forth from all parts of the Court. The pe i c , !lt particularly . the Chief Justice, looked around I.ttlii:s The utterly confounded by this outburst of popular it cheering was continued for a few minutes, and, .„`ute ,4 - 1 4 1 5 ,, ( 1,b0 ,, ut to sub Sid was again renewed in obedience to !!), to " 1 „_ e one _cher more." el The Chief Justice looked ti Bt ,,,‘" gathering, as f desirous of identifying one of • w ers• If such were his intention, he soon aban a. It, f or , be • flung himself back in his chair, where he re until the tumult" had completely subsided.) Z• 4sultation took place in a low tone'of.voice between t' ll ,,ts en l ie e Burton and Mr. O'Connell as to the place of con 011rin They are we understand, for Mr. O'Connell, the * -1 / 4 L tilli (l Penitentia ' ry ; for thei other . traversers the City N t • ea, as being within the limits ofthePlae wherethey : ' kAth? 4 ,l. • 0 , 0, - "'Past four o'clock, when our reporter left the Court, iity th. l4: r 11 :2 11 was in the custody of the High Sheriff . for the ,"ere vr -- , ° was still within the walls of the Court, in which large bodies of . the police.. All sides of the Court Gtte. Th e greatest to it—were inv . ested . by a large multi t'fits,bls:pilh:b:eliegreaeateeest excitement prevailed in all parts o . f Du.b -,4 apprehension was entertained as to any violation ,„ 4 ueb lin ..ination had been universally circulated in all parts Ras it was published by order of Mr. O'Connell, and •Illatgesse'L,position in the strongest language to " peace and . os, Li t e fol • 51 1 w i ng address to the" people of Ireland, from g e , - ' ; w as p_ublished and posted through . the city t •-ae l o v ia anticipation of sentence being passed in the ue day " PEACE AND QUIET. r‘e of Ireland—Fellow-Countrymen—Beloved Fel ',7-41,11,.7an`rYtni,en—The sentence is passed. But there is an tuat sentence. I . ls c ,i a PPeal lies to-the House of Lords. 14s _ lite e ' ll nlY pledge myself to bring an appeal against s that tV E „' e and I ass ure youthere is every prospect that it will I°t ) t eae '' then , ,and quiet. Let there be not one particle of iTil t ! n nit, or violence pie of th e crisis in , which it 'will be shown whether the i t 4 A ril Ireland will obey me or not. -(4tn,l4'aelt who violates the law, or is guilty of any vio ttl,„:44, or injury to person or :property, violates my ol d shows himself 'an enemy to me and a bitter 44- 41 .: :: 1 : 11 11 Ple p e ople of Ireland—.the . sober, steady, honest, religious °f (m e th re ' and—have hitherto obeyed my commands, and 'lr: h Lkt • e - "IT man stay at home. Let the women and chil . - 41 4 a Y at home. Do 'not crowd the streets, and, in path le,* I.l° 'llan approach the precincts of the Four Courts. r all Pc , Ple of - Dublin, and people of Ireland generally, hi'ctt " ° ‘c4 and the world will know, whether you love and I tt or kt si , lied i not.. Show your love and regard for me, by kV o i e llee to the law—your peaceable conduct—and the iles of any riot or iolence. L at.,'" P EACE, 4 r e e.,-,ORDER, QUIET, TRANQUILLITY. 4 1 1 1 41 1 ; peace, and the Repeal cause will necessarily tlim eke ~ yQ • "". quiet I ask for in my name, and as you re- . fea e ,„ • N•, - „ 4 _ 114 quiet I as k f o r in the name of Ireland, and as - ur native land. t he - Nu r q u iet--order, I call for under the solemn sanction - %r,c, I, conjure you to observe quiet, and I ask it in Itt e Zrtit i f 3 „` e ,nanie of the ever living God. 4 i)le, nie . and your friends, by your being quiet and g mi t es of Ir e l a nd would be delighted at your vio ttlicl 481) Pe • a ce, or being guilty of any disorder. qtliet t)° int them—gratify and delight by, peace, order, ever faithful friend, ' 41 41 • • " DANIEL O'CONNELL. change Rooms, 30th May,.1844." Sq rr , T _ R-EASTERN RAILWAY. —..-- 411r,d,-'gq the Proprietors of the above Company washed 4 -' 0 th et Z at the London-bridge terminus, for transacting k,iree k ,,,basines s of the Company, and for the election of '11:'114 4,.:* ` 8 . who retired by rotation. ei t ,, -e 44„ \ I'ALE was in the chair. , )4 1 har' rtisement by which the meeting had been con- I:: t,T,,g,, been read A `virs,' Barg been AI P ' and Gen. Hodgson, the two retiring , t4 , 4 1. :ry: f l 4 ' l e i r e unanim . o ' usly re-elected. ,7'l4sliriet, s tatem.ent of accounts was then laid befo e re .. N I . am j rB * It appeared from the " statement of r that 4 41` t4pi t X, Penditure to the Ist of April, 1844," At, ti i vi ere !' account the receipts to the Ist of October, the ' 12,,,•74 646/ 4 • and for the half-year ending Ist 4 ,4 - 5, ,tic kt 1 1 421 , B ' s. 9(11; s inaking a total of 3,401,468/._l3s. w 3 as d. ' ; r A t ,,r„2/, i;Lure to the Ist of October, 1843, f it - ,',' , 3r,,, 5 • 1 11 ; and for the half-year ending the Ist . ,r ~,4te fu n )°s3l. 198. 103 • together 2,970,1361. 145.. 91 , 1 4.1 , 1 .,1Y xv nd investmen ' t ' to par the Brighton Railway ,'to l 6 l ,'` l 3/, 1 -. „*" 3 26 13"/ 2s. 3d . ..• making a total of •' . 4p . the -,: 3 ' ; lea ' vit:g . a balance ' of 105,1941. 16s. 3d. 1 4,4 ehdi e - statement -- of revenue-account for the half -41.4ek5'4,7015t March, 1844," the expenditure was shown . Gent‘hee -•• 5 3 , 7 d - receipts 79 5761, 35.; giving of Of 26 ,8 r, ~ and the eh 3 1S t ree e i pts ut. 7s. 51 on the half-year. ' The " state , r) * kar e i and expenditure, from Ist October, b 1843, Sr the ~.,11',1844," on account of Folkestone har our, ; 'll . c ," 3 „Slt a'' c e , Pts to be 3,622/ 3s. Bd., and the expencli "f-ar ~"owia- , : B d., giving a balance . therefore of 2,2411. 2s. Id. .‘ l l, ) ,` l alit i ,.,%is the "profit and loss account for the half ')4 oar t4,..•alst March, 1844:"—Amount paid for interest :4,olli„`"allage4tl January, 18,6361. Os. 7d.; dues chargeable ( 4, 4 1"g4e 1 ~!', steam- vessels and passengers to and . from N il , op' 39 , i21/, 05. 3 d. ; balance, 19,2231. 10s., making a tii tt l i kit h 4804 lls. 81 On the creditor side—Balance elap, n G,tiatir,ear, 12 ,750/. 4s. 3d.; ditto on traffic to 31st 1 ' 22 4/ -",; 1 ) 1 1 ,,', 7 ,5• 5 d.; ,Logether, 39,580/. lls. Bd. By '424/"ae,l3l,""lown, 19,223/. 10s. 101 ; less interest on Oh e 010 s, l u O t ,, not Paid, 18,0001., giving a remainder of ‘,`„"r, ati' l lAit tu d' ili A ‘°4s tu - ii, " S aid, he felt it his duty to make a few ob- Ivi.• 4 el "e Prori t Having obtained a Bill, in ti -tha allse b A bee e ors. .2 1 ) of •of tb„ an n introduced to make a more equal 0411,:itC a. ,Year, so that they might not have one por tiec'ent i n oo le t i arge income and another portion with . a much h lt 3 1 R, el, s , , he Directors had made an alteration in their .': dig 3 t of j u i l t the half-years on the 31st of January and .trtieal th e 1,. T ilelresent half-year, therefore, closing as .41,, -et,,.. Ist o f te bortc-r State th an. a i t rc , N h , o ' l f th account in a inuch less ktY ,that " the travelling ul e d t hay e e a been had it taken in rietat he . avlling He begged season of the year. 1 ~-2-Nttikturs togethern of the Directors was to ca 1 the iztl4te 3 04 o again immediately t 7Gt t „ n t lPa n . nist after closing their of July ; and they might therefore cal eat t l" er, Vng convened together in the early part of t eat "tie 'Le Dire li e r to t f What ever th etors consideretLthey would be . a r bl t e by .. hi aicl le Pr°Priet the prospects of the Company mq,h ap d ti. t pit . only s a - .. °ra, to give a dividend—(Cheers)--an e ," i• I;f'Pea r t Ytitliaat, however unsatisfactory the accounts 41 11 e Lf i r‘e xt e ,,,,, meeting, they were to him and his hro -474!t b e f ' te e th e ),, —rn e' unsatisfactory. The Directors had whole giving to them a most honest itn Y' 4ll d e ~," the ' CuMpAny' transactions.--c Hear, ~,,,,t ai h belit,vedn arrear.(Her.) •eahl '4it left r ' 41e be lieved,ther s e was no one thing in ~, ~es l ie i coa it ad era' a lar ge In other railway corn etportion of interest on borrowed tlie."---,9l,ear,hgeeLeallj been charged on the capital ac- O st , e •)- uth-E aste •) r .,in no one instance had ,the Directors i . p4reh k eeo to the rn "" °nl PanY charged any portion of in rtet:ltier4 vou ur traftie account--(Hear hear)—and the shutter'sis had detsi!.4ethat, to the 31st of ' March last, the ti had "ci' the traffic account with 18,000/., one " t akio e n l that "Pn bonds. He thought this would 4 th e the • .11 4 ns to give o f t il bei i N r 497's were clearly not desirous of A i, e 1(44 gtv e 44 fair a t ace °tit39; but that they were it l red , L r „_ _ s atement as pos.ilge.—(Hear, hear.) 'a at;l:e extL y , n - s i ur then. concern he had nivirtyg cunsi ' Nt y,` raent oFra passer ‘l tr gond. He had dra wn ou t a compaia.- those. uotit hif In its 44t1 the for Wte in April and May pf present year, in order to show the Shareholders the progress they were making on' the line. The passenger traffic was, for— Passengers. Producing The first week in April, 1843 ... 5,920 ... £1,724 Ditto. ditto 1844 ... 19,543 3,581 The second week in April, 1843 ... 7,087 ... 2,152 " Ditt.o ditto 1844 ... 19,210 ... 4,273 The third week in April,lB43 ... 8,786 ... 2,124 Ditto ditto 1844 ... 13,295 ... 3,745 The tuirth week in ..ipril,lB43 ... 7,219 ... 2,052 Ditto ditto 1844 ... 12868 ... 3,587 The first week in May, 1843 ... 7,629 ... 2,008 Ditto ditto 1844 13,100 ... 3,691 The second week in May; 1843 ... 7,179 ... 2,021 Ditto ditto 1844 ... 13,375, ... 3,846 The third week in May, 1843 ... 7,624 ... 2,030 Ditto ditto 1844 ... 13,554 ... 3,931 The fourth week in May, 1843 ... 7,223 ... 2,071 Ditto ditto 1844 ... 12,950 4,070 It *was here seen that the passenger traffic had nearly doubled itself in these - eight weeks, and the whole of this in crease would come into the present half-year's accounts. As regarded the Maidstone branch, this branch would in,a short time be opened, and would, he thought, bring in a consider able income • its completion too would cloSe Wan expendi ture of 1,406/. a year which the Company had now Charged. to their account as a payment to coach proprietors for bring ing the passengers to the line. The next point he had to touch upon was the coal traffic. His.feelings upon this sub ject were -exceedingly strong, because he was sure it mould be a source of great profit. Another material item in their 'traffic was the article of lime. His.opinion was that a very extensive trade in lime would be carried on upon their rail way,-and to a far gretfter amount than. any gentleman pre sent could possibly contemplate; indeed, he should be afraid of mentioning what he believed would be its extent. , It was to be recollected : that the lime was made of chalk imme diately on the line of railway. It was not possible for.any thing to be more convenient or less expensive than the pre paration .of it in connection with their railway. 'Since they last met together in that mom the Bricklayers' Arms station had been opened, and . during the 28 days that the public had enjoyed the accommodation, the Company, had taken. from the London-bridge station 11,285 passengers, produc ing 5,260/., and from the Bricklayers' Arms station 19,953 passengers, producing the suns of 6,0601.—C Loud cheers.) At Reigate, the Brighton line and themselves had removed the objections that the pUblic had made to moving from one line to another. A station had at last been built, and every Brighton as well as every Dover train stopped at it. The station still remained the property of the Dover Company. At the present moment the Directors were making arrange ments for. carrying out a branch from Tunbridge. to Tun bridge \Vella, of 41 ; miles in.length. The objections raised by the landowners had been entirely removed; and, looking to the short distance of the branch, it was not possible to con ceive any line to be more beneficial to a company. A PROPRIETOR—Ii will be a single line, I presume The CHAIR3LiN said it would. Ile had now to offer twaor three words respecting the Hastings line. This subject was one' hat had given the Board a good deal of anxiety, and, he must confess, the decision upon-it had disappointea him ex ceedingly.—(Hear.) What he meant by saying that it had disappointed him was this: he had fancied that when Par liament sanctioned the line, and granted the Bill, claiming, as they did in the first instance, that a good traffic case shouldbe shown—he said, that having shown, as part of their ttaffic case, the whole of the Hastings traffic, he did not ex pect Parliament would. then say, " We must take away the traffic from you and place it in the hands of others." Such, however, had been the decision of the Committee.—(Hear.) He could only say that nothing had shaken his faith more in railway property than seeing such decisions as he had seen come to by the Committee of the House of Commons.-- (Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") He thought they must not despair in this matter—(Hear, hear.) The Directors were not remaining pa - ssive, and thew were determined not to re main passive. —(Hear, hear.) He was sure his brother' Di rectors, as well as himself, would not cease pressing the ques tion on the attention of those in whose hands the matter rested, till they foundthere was no chance of success, or till they did succeed.—(Cheers.) He believed that the Hastings people were exceedingly dissatisfied with the decision of the Committee, and they had called a meeting to take the sub ject into consideration. As far as the interest of the county of Kent was concerned, there could not be a doubt that a line of railway through the centre would be more beneficial than one running along the coast. The works at Folkestone Harbour, and the various matters connected with it, were going on in.the most satisfactory manner. He thought the value of the harbour was entirely unknown, and every step taken in reference to it satisfied him more fully of the wisdom and discretion they had shown in purchasing it. The Dover terminus was now (pen. It was very convenient and most spacious ; perhaps some might say, more spacious than neces sary. Those who thought so, should recollect that a great destruction of property had arisen from the stock and plant of railways being exposed to the weather; this had been felt particularly, he bel imred, by th e London and Birmingham Com pany. It was satisfactory to him to know that they now had a station where the stock; &c., could be properly protected, and as to the station itself, he would say there was not in Great Britain one more simple and, at the same time, more con venient. The next question he must touch on regarded the protection of the interests of the South-Eastern Company generally; but especially on the northern side of the county of Kent. If it were necessary for tbe public convenience that lines of railway shmild go on the northern side of the county of Kent, the South-Eastern Company would be the parties to endeavour to carry them out. The Directors would be very much wanting in their duty if they did not keep alive to what was passing on this point, and they therefore thought it right to tell the proprietors that Mr. R. Stephen son had been for some time engaged in looking_to the whole of that 4listrict, that the Directors might see how best to protect the interests of the Shareholders. He had for a long time considered the greatest enemies to railway Companies were the railway Companies themselves.—(Hear, hear.) There had been an endeavour on all sides to get hold of property with which they had nothing whatever to do, and there had been a forgetfulness of the " live and let live" system.—(Hear, hear.) Every railway company had been desirous of entrenching on its neighbours' property. He had expressed' these opinions most plainly and openly before the President of the Board of Trade, in the presence of the Chair men-of the Great Western, the' London and Birmingham, and other lines, in the spring of the present- sear. Then as to the question of amalgamation. The Brighton, Croydon, and Dover lines were working very' harmoniously together, but he thought not so beneficially as they would do under one board. For his part lie was quite willing, and he had so confessed himself to the Croydon and Brighton Direc 'tors, to sound hi 4 retreat the moment anything of the kind. could be carried out ; and he was sure there was not a single Director of the Dover board who would not willingly retire from the position he held, if, by so doing, the desired amalga mation could be forwarded.—(Cheers.) One word as to the foreign railways. It was quite as unlikely that we should be without a railway to the opposite coast, as that the Dover line would be closed. In fact, it was a question that had been again and again argued in the Chamber of Deputies. It was one in which the South-Eastern Company were most deeply interested, and about which he had been in continual commu nication with parties on the other side of the Channel. The Shareholders were not to imagine that, because the Directors 'had not touched upon the subject before, it had therefore escaped their consideration. 'The completion of a line to the opposite coast at some future day would Place the income of the South-Eastern line in such a position as the Proprietors did not at the present moment contemplate. Let them say what they would—if they could have a short passage across to the kingdom of France, and get to the Mediter ranean in the short period -of time that a journey would then occupy, the value of tke South-Eastern line • would become great indeed. He believed that with the exception of stating that there were .400 shares of the last issue which the 'Directors had still in their hands, and which they proposed to sell and apply the proceeds to the credit of the account, he had nothing .further to mention to the Proprietors. If they had any questions to put he should be very happy to answer them. Several questions were put to the Chairman by various of the Proprietors, but they were of no public interest beyond two facts elicited—that the mouth of the Folkestone har bour could be kept Clear of shingle at a comparatively trifling cost, and that the Company would be able to carry on five or six times the present traffic without any addition to their staff. The Chairman's address appeared to give very general - satisfaction. Mr. DlCitEGort moved a vote of thanks to the Chairman and the Directors for the able manner in which they had managed the affairs of the Company. Mr. EDMONDS seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously. The CHAIRMAN returned thanks, and the meetingbroke up. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. ASCOT HEATH RACES. Subjoined is a complete list of all the stakes which have closed. The entry for the Trial Stakes and the Plates will be made to-morrow afternoon at the Grand Stand. TUESDAY. The Trial Stakes of 5 sovs. each ; two yrs, old 4st 4lb ; three, 7st 41b ; four, Bst 71b ; live, 9st ; six and aged,,9st 31b. New mile. The Ascot Stakes of 25 sovs. each, 15 ft, and 5 only if de.. dared, with 100 added ; the second to receive 50 soya. out of the stakes ; the winner of any handicap after the weights are declared 71b extra. Knight of the Whistle, 6 yrs, Bst 71b—Orion, 4 yrs, Bst Parthian, 4 yrs, 7st Illb—Blackdrop, 4 yrs ist 71b—Mania, 4 yrs, ist 61b ; Johnny, aged, 7 st 21b—Priscilla Tomboy, 5 yrs, 7st—Areanus, 5 yrs, ist—Rowland, 4 yrs, fist lOW -Franchise, 5 y rs, Est 101)--Delapre, 3 yrs, 6st 71b—Maria Diaz, 4 yrs, 6st 61b—Ameer, 4 yrs, 6st 51b—Fox, 4 yrs, 6st 31b —lllustration, 4 yrs, 6st 31b—El Mayherry, 4 yrs, 6st— Elemi, 3 yrs, Gst—Robinia, 3 yrs, sst 12 1 b — Donnybrook , 4 yrs, sst 111bAshstead Pet, 3 yrs, sst 101 b—ch c by Ellis, Odessa, 3 yrs, sst Sib—Gaiety, 3 yrs, sst 71b-4 1 halaris, 3 yrs, sst 21b—Deuce Ace, 3 yrs, 4st 101 b. The Gold Vase, given by her Majesty, added to a Sweep stake of 20 sovs.- each. Attilla, 5 yrs, 9st 1 lib—Robert de Gorham, 5 yrs, 9st 71b —Corranna, yrs, 9st 71b—Lothario, 4 yrs, 9st 41b—Alice Hawthorn, 6 yrs; 9st 41b—Bramble. 4 yrs, 9st—Extempore, 4 yrs, Bst 91b—b fby Gladiator, out of Elegance, 4 yrs, Bst 91b—Delapre, 3 yrs, 7st 31b—Odd Mixture, 3 yrs, 7st 31b— ch c by Defence, dam by Reveller, 3 yrs, fist 131b—Princess Alice, 3 yrs, fist 121 b. A Sweepstakes of 100 SM. each, for four-year-olds ; colts, - Bst 91b, fillies Bst 61b—the winner of the Derby or St. Le ger in 1843, 51b extra. Swinley course. M. Jaque's Semiseria, Mr. Thornhill's Extempore, Mr. Ford's Poison. A Sweepstake of 50 soya. each, h ft, for two-year-olds ; colts, Bst 71b, fillies, Bst 31b. The last three quarters of a mile. Lord Albemarle's Scarmentado, Sir G. Heathcote's ch f, own sister to Carolina, by Velocipede—Lord Verulam's c (dead) by Sir Hercules out of his Ishmael mare—Mr. Wood's ch c Elector. The Ascot Derby Stakes of 50 sovs. each, h ft, for three yeay-olds ; colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, Bst 31b ; the winner of the . Derby 101 b; the second horse or winner of the Oaks 51b extra. Swinley course. Lord Orford's c by Elis, out of Miss Julia—Colonel Wynd ham's Master Henry—Lord Chesterfield's c The Miser Seerve—Lord Eglinton's b c Zanoni (dead)—Duke of Bed ford's e Panther—Lord G. lientincks b c King Fisher (late Fleming)—Lord Exeter's c Antenor. The St. James's Palace Stakes of 100 sovs. each, h ft; colts, Sat 71b ; fillies, Bst 41b. Old mile. Lord Orford's Arragon, brother to Angelo—Mr, Thornhill's Eland, brother to Maugo—Colonel Peel's lonian—Lord EX.e. ter's c Sylvitis. The Borough Members' Plate of 50 sovs., added to a Sweep stakes of 5 sovs. each ; threw-year-olds, 7st ; four, Bst 41b ; five, Bst 10lb ; six and aged, 9st ; winners once in 1844 8144 twice, 61b extra. The winner to be sold for 150 sovs. Old mile, WEDNESDAY. The Royal Hunt Cup, a plsae of plate value 230 sovs., by subscriptions of 10 sovs. each, with 1()Q added, for all ages (two-year-olds excepted) ; the winner of au handicap plate or stake, value 100 sovs. ' including the. winner's stake, after the weights are declared, 71b extra. New mile. Attilla, 5 vrs, 9st 41b--Knight of the Whistle, 6 yrs, 9st 21b —Scalteen, yrs, Vst 21b--Parthlan, 4 yrs, Bst-13ishop of Romford's Cob, 4 yrs, 7st 121b—The Cure, 3 yrs, 7st 121 b...- f by Gladiator, out of Elegance, 4 yrs, 7st 12th—The Brewer, 4 yrs, 7st Mb—Bramble, 4 yrs, 7st 101b—Palladium, 5 yrs, 6111,-Trincess of Wales,s yrs, 7st 91b--Fakeaway, 4 yrs, lAalli"-040-11; & Fs; 611,)--We9 Vet, 4 yrs, 7st 61b—m by t 1 - THE ' LONDON, SATU-RD A Y MORN `LTG, JUNE 1 , 1844. Bay Middleton, out of Adriana, 5 yrs, 7st 61b—Amorino, 4 yrs, ist 61b—Epaulette, 5 yrs, Tat 21b—Anonyme, 4 yrs, Est 121b—Poor Soldier, 4 yrs, Est 91b—Maria Diaz, 4 yrs, 6st 91b—Young Lochinvar, 4 yrs, Est 61b—Portumnus, 4yrs, 6st 411)--11 . 1arquiSe, 4 yrs, 6st 41b—ch c by Plenipotentiary, out of Bangtail, 4 yrs, 6st 21b—Dahlia, aged, 6st 21b—Fox, 4 yrs, 6st—ch c by Ells, out of Delightful, 3 yrs, sst 101b—Ernma; 3 yrs, sst 101b--Tiddly Winks, 3 yrs, sst 81b—Advice, 3 yrs, sst 61b--ch c by Elis out of Odessa, 3 yrs, sst 61b—Best Bower, 3 yrs, 4st 121 b. The Fern Hill Stakes of 15 sous. each, 5 ft, with 50 added ; for two yrs old, 7st, and three, 9st ; mares and geldings allowed 31b. To start at the Cup Course post, and run in about half v. mile. _ _ _ Mr. Ford's Piccolina, 2 yrs—Mr. J. Dixon's br g Chevy Chase, 2 yrs—Mr. Worley's Sophy Daws, 2 yrs—Mr. T. Walters's Assay, 3 yrs—Mr. T. Walters's My Mary, 2 yrs— Mr. G. Ongley's b f Mystery, 2 yrs—Mr. A. W. Hill's br c Beaumont, 3 yrs—Mr. Booth's f New Year's Day, 2 yrs— Lord Exeter's Economy, 3 yrs—Colonel Anson's Buzz, 3 yrs—Mr. Phillhnore's Physalis, 3 yrs--Lord G. Bentinck's Prince of Wales, 3 yrs—Mr. Edwards's c Hedgehog, 2 yrs. The Swihley Stakes of 25 sov.s each, 15 ft, with 50 added,. if not walked over for ; for three years old, 7st 41b ; and four, Bst 101 b . ;. mares and geldings allowed 31b ; the win ner of the Derby or Oaks in 1843 and 1844, 10Ib extra. Swinley course. _ Mr. Dixon's , b c Oliver Cromwell, 3 yrs—:Lord Exeter's Phlegon, 4 yrs—Lord Glenlyon's Ben• y-Ghlo, 4 yrs—Mr. Jaques's Scmiseria, 4 yrs—Colonel Peel's lonian, 3 yrs Lord W. Powlett's c by Plenipotentiary, out of Ales., 3 yrs Duke of Richmond's c Pastoral, 3 yrs. 'he Great Ascot Produce Stakes of 100 sovs. each, h ft, for three-ySar olds, with 200 added for the winner, and 100 for the second ; colts, Bst, 71b ; fillies and geldings, Bst 21b ; winners, of the Derby, 71b; bf the Oaks, 51b ; of the 2,000615. orl,ooo Gs. Stakes, 31b extra. Untried horses or mares allowed 31b;, to start at the winning-post, and go once round. Lord Exeter's c Crosby, 31b; Lord G. Bentinck's f (dead) ; by Bay Middleton, out of Camarine, 31b—Lord George -Ben tinck's br f, by Bay Middleton, out of Flycatcher, 31:,—Lord G. Bentinck's b .f (dead), by Bay Middleton—Balustrade, 31b—Mr. Greville's b f Jamaica, 3lb—Colonel Peel's b f Ze _ _ nobia, 31b—Colonel Anson's b c Alassena (dead)--Colonel Anson's ch f Muff'—Mr. Thornhill's b f Example—Mr. 04- baldeston's f, by The Saddler, dam by Partisan, 31b—Mr. Saddler's f Emerald—Mr. I. Day's b c Seaport—Lord Ches terfield's b f The Bee, 31b—Lord Chesterfield's b f Audrey, 31b; Mr. Wreford,• jun.'s b f by Sultan Junior, out of Monimia, 31b—Mr. Wreford, jun.'s b f by Camel, out of Victoria—Mr. Wreford's jun.'s b c by Camel, out of Wadastra, 31b Mr. Wreford, juu.'s b c by Camel, out of Margellina Mr. W.. Edward's • b c Panther—Lord Westminster's b f Thais, 31b—Lord Westminster's br c Lancet; 31b Lord Westmin ster's f (dead), by Touchstone, out of Languish, 31b—Lord Westminster's br f Fanny Eden, 31b—Lord Westminster's b c by touchstone, out of Miss Giles, 31b—Lord -Westmin ster's br f Carol—Mr. Nevill's ch c Valerian, 31b—Duke of Bedford's f by Liverpool, out of Plaything—Mr. Sadler's Folly ( wrong nomination). The Coronation Stakes of 100 sous. each, h ft, for three year-old fillies, Bst 71b each ; the winner of the Oaks 71b, of the 1,000 Guineas Stakes 31b, of both 91b extra. l'he New mile. Mr. Thompson's ch f Victoria—Mr. Thornhill's Example, sister to Euclid—Mr. Thornhill's b f by Albemarle, o►}t of Egeria—Lord Chesterfield's f The Bee—Lord Chesterfield's f Giselle—Lord Jersey's f the Princess—Lord G. Bentinek'g gr fsister to Tripoli—Lord Exeter's f Mocha—Mr. Copeland's b f Assay. Her Majesty's Plate of 100 Gs ; three-year-old, 7st 21b ; four, 9st 293 ; five, lOst ; six and aged, lOst 51b. To start at the New mile post and go once round and in. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, 21lay 31. Their Lordships assembled 'at Five o'oluek. The Duke of WELLINGTON 1r: :tented a petition from Newbury, praying fur an exten,iion of the Great Western Railway to the town of Newbury. On the motion of the Earl of RIPON, the Courts martial (East Indies) Bill was read a first time.. Lord LURGAN presented petitions from Ireland against the Di,:sentvrs' Chapels Bill ; also petitions praying their Lordships to legalise Presbyterian mar, riages in Ireland. Lord CAMPBELL presented twelve petitions from Ireland to the same eff F et ; also a petition from Cole raine against the I)isse►iters' Chapels Bill. THE - LATE MONAGHAN ASSIZES. The Marquis of NORNIANBY rose to -call their Lord ship? attention to the circumstances whi c h h a d_ occurred at the last Monaghan assizes. A general impression existed in that part of the country that there had been a went of sincerity in the intentions of the Govan - 11 - bent in carrying. out the directions which were co,.tained in a circular to the Att,rney-General Brady, with respect to the - cit , ;tom 'of 'challenging jurors. His_ Noble Friend opposite ..on that '(:ccasioif find read a letter from the Crown solicitor, Mr. Hamilton, stating his reasons for striking those persons off the jury. He stated that he had struck off John Hughes because he had been_servant to a ribbonman. - LordWil AR NCLIFFE—Son-in-law to it ribbonman: The Marquis of NOB, NIANBY had understood his Noble Friend to say servant. The fact was . that Hughes had eloped. with the daughter of his father-in-law, many years since, but he had had no cammunication with . her family since. 'With respect to Collield, it was said that he had attended. a faction meeting, and Edward Mackinlay had been struck off for. the same offence. Now with respect to Mackinlay, he was a person of considerable property, who had never been charged with ribbonisus, or indicted, or convicted for any offence. Colfield, also, was a respectable person, who had never been convicted of any offence. and who had frequently before servel on juries. Mr. Hamilton should have taken pains to have informed himself accurately, bet ire he had bronght such charges against these respectable persons. Ile was anxious to hear what information his Noble Fr.trul could give of these circumstances. Lord 'WHARNCLIFFE considered that no imputa tion had been cast by his Noble Friend upon the cha racter of Mr. Hamilton. The seven persons who had been struck off the jury were Roman Catholica, but then it should be recollected that the offoice of ribbonism, of which the prisoner had been accused, ,was confined almost exclusively to Roman Catholies. If Mr. Ha milton believed those statements to -be true, he was .perfectly justified in strikirik thoks . persons off. The verdict of the jury was a discriminating one. —convicting some and acquittiag others. Earl . - FI I'ZWILLIAM—And, therefore, because it was exclusively confined to Catholics, it ought to be tried exclusively by Pretestants ! Such was the reasoning of his Noble Friend. According to his (Lord Fitz william's) understandieg of the theory of . trial by jury that.was a reason why ,Catholics should be on the jury. Would his Noble Friend reVerse the case, and have offences committed exclusively by Protestants tried by an exclusively Catholic jury ?—(Cheers.) Lord ‘VHARNCLIFFE denied that he had said that all Catholics should be excluded from juries empabellvd for the trial of ribbonism ; he hail only said that under the-circumstances Mr. Hamilton was justified in chal lenging these parties. - The Marquis of NORMANBY. said he had heard nothing that induced him to believe that ribbonism was confined to Catholics. He believed that the Roman Catholic priesthood were ainotig the most active in put ting it down. He had thrown no imputation on the jury; on the contrary, he had said that they had done their duty. He therefore regretted that the moral effect of the prosecution had been lost by -the exclusion of Ca tholics from the jury. Lord WHARNCLIFFE referred the Noble Marquis to the evidence taken on the Committee he had referred to; where it was stated• that ribbonism was confined al most exclusively to Roman Catholics: The subject then dropped: ' - FACTORIES BILL. Their Lordships then went into Committee on this Bill. _ . Lord KINNAIRD said though he was opposed on principle to all legislative interference with labour, either with the produce of labour, or with labour itself, yet, as the principle of this Bill had been the law of the land for years, be should not oppose its pass ing. But there was one clause in the Bill which intro duced an entirely new principle. The clause would certainly be quite inoperative, and he wished therefore to know why it had been, introduced into the Bill at all ? When they came to the 32d clause he should move that it be expunged. The clause was then agreed Clauses 2 to 8 inclusive were also agreed to. On clause 9 being propc!sed, Lord TEYNIIA:Sf said he thought some provision ought to be made in this Bill, with respect to. children who had been absent from a factory in consequence of ill health. He thought a clause ought to ,be introduced into the Bill, requiring that no child vk lm had been ab sent, i►► consequence of ill health, should be allowed to go back to the factory until a certificate had been ob tained from a surgeon that the child was in a fit state to go back. Lord WIIARNCLIFFE thought•the Bill already pro vided for this. The clause was then agreed to. Clauses 10 and 11 were agreed to. • On clause 12 being. proposed, Lord BEAUMONT moved that that part of the cl;:use which provided that the cost of the surgeon's certificate should be defrayed out of the wages of the children, be struck out. Lord WHARNCLIFFE said the certificates were for the benefit of the children, and it was but right that they should bear a portion of the expense. • The amendment was negatived without a division, and the clause was then agreed to. • _ Clauses 13 to 17 inclusive were agreed to. On clause 18 being proposed, Lord BROUGHAM. said he had carefully gone over this Bill, and he must say that. he wa,s not much pre possessed in its favour. One clause provided that a factory record office should be established, and that a suitable building should be erected for that purpose. He protested against such meddling, officious, dabbling legislation. If any rot eigner was to look at this legis• lation,. he would think it was an Act of the yepx 844, and not of the year 1844. But in the 18th clause of this Bill, they had exceede I themselves. This clause enacted that, in all cases in which the tops and sides of rooms were not painted with oil they should be lime washed at least once in fourteen months, wherever chil dren and young persons were employed in those rooms. Now, young persons meant women of from sixty to seventy years of age—most interesting young- persons they were—and where the walls were painted with oil, they should be every 14 months washed with soap and water. It certainly was a great omission that the Bill did not state the exact degree of the heat of the water that was to be used.—(A laugh.) Now he hoped that before long, equal care would be taken of the comfort of the peasantry; He expected to see a Bill ordering the cottages of the peasantry to be whitewashed, and enacting that all chinks through which draughts of wind, or snow, or rain, or hail, might pass, should be stopped up with chopped hay, or straw, or blaster, and that the persons living in cottages should 1w provided with a suffi ciency warm clothing, o f course at the expen se o f e thei i riandlords and employers—(Lltighter)—and that a sufficiency of fuel should be provided for them, and that no dunghills or pigstyes should be allowed near their dwellings, for nothing could be mar, ilijuri .us to health than dunghills and pigstyes. They might have a sche dule relating to cases in which cow-houses might be per mitted.(A laugh.) He was perfectly disgusted with ttiis meddling, officious, dabbling system of legislation. —(The Noble and Learned Lord then threw the Bill across the table, and resumed his seat, amidst cheers and laughter.) Lord WHARNCLIFFE said that the clause was only a renewal of the one in the old Bill. The clause was then passed. Clauses from 19 to 28 were passed without discussion. On clause 29 being•proposed, Earl FITZWILLIAM said it appeared that every body was in favour of this Bill—(" No, no," from Lord Kinnaird)—that was, speaking abstractedly. The Government was for it—the Tories were for it—the Whigs were for it—the political economists were for it; but these were not quite satisfied with it—they were disposed to carry it a little further. The clause under consideration proved that there was some little return of common sense beginning to be shown on the subject. The clause substituted "eight years" instead of nine as the age at which children could go to work in factories. He hoped to see a similar return of good sense to the children employed in mines ; but he could not compre hend why all this extraordinary philanthropy exhibited for those employed in factories shoul.l not be carried a little further, and why there was such neglect of the moral and physical evils in the•social condition of other classes of the community. The landed interest had taken this Bill especially under its protection, but he could not comprehend why it neglected the interest of those with whom it - was particularly connected. Those employed in mines and factories enjoyed, at all events, -a warm and equal temperature, which was not so injurious as exposure in a cold open field for many hours during the day, which was the case with children in the agricultu ral districts who were employed in " scaring" birds, and other field occupations. TT -.0 thought that the only 'cases of interfarence with labour should be in those where the 'morals of the p eopl e were affectel. :They ; were interfering with the right s of the working classes, and preventing them from earning as much as e n r eadnus weretr,l-4, obtaining food.— they could.. If they did this, they at the same they ought to feed to do this, it would time, to give them th r e selad in tui act consistently. He wondered how the people. I f If f h t e h y e cramped Parliament would receive a Bill which pr.ivided thee load of hay should not be carried after six o'clock in . he t v ning?—(Hear, hear.) Yet this would not be woi.: , e than the present Bill. This Bill was one-sided legislation, and he could not, therefore, give it his support. The Marquis of NOIOI4NBY denied that there way any retVOgVes4tOn this Bil l. 'He thought no coruparl son could be instituted between the condition of the agricultural and manufacturing labourer. The force of nature protected the agricultural labourer, but the factory , iebollrar had 119 Mich Pr°toCt i ° ll . 11 # lahed to maintfihi rho Bill in its present Integrity. With regard to the argument that the last hour wits the manufacturer's only profit, why, the same thing ha 1 be n stated twenty years ago, when the late Sir ItoLert l'eel had proposed lg reeltiee the hours of iftbour from 1 Sottpan houFs, With regard to the erevisiens elVPreilig cleanliness, thern could he no dean of the , IPefts§ity f l ip plow provisions where hirge numbers a persons were congregated together. • The - *Bishop of - INFON rejoicOd• tit - the I}p9 Q~l3 the lr , urs of labour by this Bill; and only regretted that the li: . nitation had not been carried further. It was im possii,ie ti improve the social, moral, and religious con dition of' the pOpulation of the manufacturing districts, with.,:A limiting the hours of labour.. Commercial pr0p , .::;..; might be purchased at too great a price, and it w 407ng to great es-pence for it to sacrifice to it the m0r.i4;.1;,d religious welfare.of our. population. L.I:.I'WHAIINCLIFFE defended ihe 'clause. The F:arl of WINCITILSEA regretted that a ten hour,' ..louse had not been adopted ; but lie hdmiiled fiat - tlie prawn Bill was an improyemeat on the old law, The was agreed to. • ". Claniei 30 and 31 Were agreed to. 'On clause 32, which provides-that women shall be con sidered a; young persons, being proposed, • KINNAIRD -Moved that the clause be ex pun,4cd, as he considered the clause to be an attempt to interference.with adultlabonr... St -, taeg , rs were iimered to withdraw, but no division took plaee.• On our . teturn-to•the gallery we found L AR NC LIFF de fen :ling; the clause. Lo A BROUG-ll AM concurred with his Noble Friend at Ow table (Lord Kiunaird), in thmking•that the clause ought to be struck out.: Duchesses and Countesses were p,r anitt-d to dance about their children from eleven at night ter five in the morning in rooms . the atmosphere of whk:i a - as quite pestiferous, and yet the Legislature nevcr attempted to infeeere with them. Why, the ope. naive: saw through this, and petitioned the Legislature riot t: :listed to such nonsenSe as this Bill, because they were - convinced that thercould never' get twelve hours' wages for ten hours' work. Coachmen were kept out all night, sitting on their boxes, waiting forparties coming from routes, but nobody attempted to interfere for them, although numbers of them annually fell victims to the inclemency of the weather to which they were exposed. The Marquis of NORMANBY contended that twelve hours ws quite as great a length of time as any woman ou4ht. t , , labour in a factory. The peasantry in the agri cultural districts were better educated than the labourers in th, rninufacturing districts, as was proved by the re turns a the rettistrar. . Lor I 111l01.1GELA3I said education was known by its . fruitii,z-nd he would ask. if Mr. Thom, who; four or five years ago, had, by his delusions, giVen rise to such dis graccful scenes in -the agricultural distrietS of Kent, woulJ have had ten followers in Barnsley, Manchester, or ally manufacturing district. Lord CAMPBELL would support the amendment of his NO'e Friend (Lord Kinnaird). This clause applied to tlw whole female sex. There might be a case of a woman of forty years of age in robust health, who ratio than suffer her children to go into the workhouse would work without injury to her health for more than twelve hours a day, yet the law interfered to prevent her, and to force her children into the workhouse. This was PM unjust interference with adult labour, and there fore he should-oppose it. Lord BROUGHAM said that as this had been dis cussed as a question of morals between the agricultural and the manufacturing districts he would be content to pat it upun that issue. He held in his hand a return of the number of bastards born in the different counties in Engbind in the year 1843. In Bedfordshire, an agri cultural district, they_were five and three-tenths in the thousand in proportion to the whole population ' • in Dorsetshire they were three in the thousand; and in Herefordshire four and one-tenth in thethousand ; in the North Riding of Yorkshire three and three-tenths in the thousand in proportion to the population. These were purely agricultural district:. In the West Riding of Yorkshire,' a manufacturing district, they were only one• and five-sixths in the thousand; and in Lancashire they were only one and two-tenths in the thousand in prOpoyti(kn to the population: That was the proportion of immorality of the manufacturing districts. Now let them come to Wales ; there they would find that in Anglesea the proportion of illegitimate children to the population was .seventy in the.thoussnd! And in Radnor i; was 105 in the thousand!—(Laughter.) He was con tent to put the vote on this issue. Earl WINCHILSEA said it was a notorious fact that where large numbers of people were congregated to gether, there were not so many. children born in pro portion to the population as in places where the numbers were smaller. Lord REDESDALE contended that the return which had been quoted did not show the number of illegitimate children born in the whole population, but the number of children relieved, which were, of course, pauper children. A return of the whole number born it would be impossible to procure. He had been accused of igno rance, but he was quite correct. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE did not believe that the greater immorality of the manufacturing dis triAs had been proved. After a few words from the Marquis of NOR MANBY, Lord ICINNAIRD said the principle on which he moved the rjection of the clause was on the ground that it was an interference with all female adult labour. The Committee then divided, when there appeared— For the clause, Contents Against it, Non-contents Majority for the clause —27 The clause was then agreed to, as were clauses 33, 34, and 35. Clauses 36 to 66 inclusive were then severally put and agreed to without discussion, and the Bill having been reported to the House without amendments, was ordered to be read a third time on Monday next. --- POACHING PREVENTION BILL. The Earl of STRADBROKE moved the third read ing of the Poaching Prevention Bill, in which he wished to propose some amendments. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the proper time to propose the amendments would be on the ques tion that the Bill do pass. The Duke of RICHMOND hoped the further con sideration of the Bill would be postponed in order to give their Lordships an opportunity of considering the amendments. He objected to giving gamekeepers the power of arresting persons on the high road. After a few words from the Earl of Radnor, from Lord Campbell in support of the views of the Duke of Rich mond, and from Earl Fitzhardinge iu support of the Bill, it was read a third time, the amendments were proposed, the Bill as amended was ordered to be printed, and the debate on the question that the Bill do pass was ad journed till Alonday. CUSTOMS BILL. The Custrms Bill passed through Committee. The other 11;11s on the table were forwarded a stage, and the 11, use adjourned. 11011 SE OF COMMONS, May 31. The SPE-11:ER took the Chair at the usual hour. NEW- MEMBER. Mr. BOUVXRIE took the oaths and his seat for Kil marnock. 121. e lion. Member was introduced by Mr. Ellice, jun., Bi.d Mr. Ord. DISSENTERS' CHAPELS BILL. Petitions against this Bill were presented by Colonel Powell, by Mr. Broadley from Yorkshire, Sir J. Y. Buller from Devon, .Mr. B. Cresswell from Northumber• land, Major I3eresford from Harwich, Lord Pollington from Pont• ft - act, Mr. Brotherton from Salford, Mr. B. Hughes from Carnarvon and Bangor, Lord Rendlesham from Suffolk, Mr. Barnard from Greenwich, Mr. Boyd from places in Ireland, and Colonel Fox from Limehouse. Petitions in f.ivour of the Bill were presented by Mr. A. Chapman forth Whitby, and Mr. Strutt-from Derby. Mr. W. O. STANLEY presented a petition from a Wesleyan congregation in Holyhead against the Dissen ters' Cli,irels Bill. Lord ASHLEY presented several petitions to the same eff. et. Captain ROUS presented a petition from Westminster to tile same effect. Sir tV. JAMES presented petitions from several Wesleyan eongregations to the same effect. i•lr. CHRISTOPHER presented a petition from the clergy and adult inhabitants of Andover to the same effect. Sir R. 11. ING LIS presented apetition from the wardens and other officers of Winchester College, against the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill ; also from Cromer, in Nor folk, against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. An HoN. MEMBER presented several petitions to the same Effect. THOMAS TROWBRIDGE presented a petition to the same effect. Mr. MURPHY presented a petition from. Ireland to the same effect. L.•rd H. VANE presented a petition from Hertford• shin in favour of the BilL Mr. IL BERKELEY presented several petitions from Glotwostershire and Somersetshire against the Dissent er' Mr. CARTViRIGHT presented several petitions to tli sune effect. Lord NEWRY presented several petitions to the same eff et Sir C. LEMON presented a petition, from Ireland to the same effect. Mr. CARTER presented a petition from Clitheroe, andl other places, to the same effect. r W. WYNN presented a petition from Devonshire, to the same effect. Mr. VILLIERS presented a petition from Stafford. shire to the same effect. Mr. G. KNIGHT presented a petition to the same effect. Mr. CHRISTIE presented a petition from Wales in fari.ur of the Bill. Mr. M. PHILIPS presented a petition from Mac• ch•sfield to the same effect. Mr. DIVETT presented a petition from Honiton in favour of, and one from Huntingdon against, the Dis senters' Chapels Bill. Mr. BRICiIIT presented a petition against the Bill. PROTECTION TO AGRICULTURE. Sir J. Y. BULLER presented .several petitions from Devon in favour of further protection to agriculture. Lord RENI)LESHAM presented similar petitions from Suffolk. Mr. HUME presented a petition from an agricultural s , .ci,•ty in India, praying for the admission of corn from India• on the sAme terms as' corn coming from Canada. The Hon. Member ave notice of his' intention- to call the attention 6f the HOUSa to thesubject On an early day. EDUCATION IN IRELAND. Mr. LEFROY presented petitions from Cork against the national system of education ill iriilaud. DISSENT iIS I CHAPELS BILL. NEUBLE presented petitions from congregations or Dissenters in Surrey against the DieSentt:T4 Bill. Captain TAYLOR pr4sco t itpd petitions from Hereford shire to the same effect, POOR-LAWS. - 11tr..FERRAiti D. moved for copies of the correspond ence between Mr. Rykr, a member of Oka betard of -film-dial-is of Chelsea, anti OW roPr-14w Cciturnissioners, M m gave notiee that, in Committee upon the 1140 i ()barter Bill, he should move a clause for the re peal of the legal tender clause. ADJOURNMENT cw Tith HOUSE. On thp.lagtign pc air. a. or 4.11 K, it was resolved that 111Aize ittl rising adjourn till Monday. - COURTS-MARTIAL. The Courts-martial Bill (East Indies) was read a third time and passed. INDIAN ARMY.- Mr. HUME called the attention of the Government to the indications-of a mittirioui sirit among the Sepoys of the Indian army. Reconsidered it a most alarming symp tom, and it was of the greatest importance that the in justice that had- caused it 'should not- be continued. He was eiitgoled ty - thethonght that Sir -IL -Hardinge-would do all in his power to prevent it. TRADE WITH - PRUSSIA.- Lord. J. RUSSELL gave. notice, that on Tuesday next, he'should move for the production . of the corres pondence relative to' the commercial relations betvVeen this country 'and Prussia. SUPPLY. On the motion of Sir G. CLERK, the Order of the. Day for going into Committee of Supply, was read t:* the purpose of postponing it. CA'TITOLIC EMANCIPATION BILL. • - 114 Roman Catholic Clergy Grants and Conveyaoces :Ireland) Bill . waS read .a Second time. SLAVE TRADE. On the Report on the Slave Trade Treaties Bill . being brought up, Captain PECIIELL asked What treaties' it was the intention of Government to legislate upon ? Sir G. CLERK said it was.only.intended by the Bill to give her Majesty power, by Order in Council, to carry certain provisions of the • treaties into effect, till -next session, when they would be embodied in an Act of Par liament. • Tu URSDAT. The Gold Cup, by subscription of 20 sovs. each, with 200 added ; the second to receive 50 sovs. out of the stake ; three yrs old, 6st 101 b; four, Bst 51b; five, 9st; six and aged, 9st 31b ; mares and geldings allowed 31b. To start at the Cup post and go once round, about two miles and a half. Semiseria, 4 yrs—ch c by Defence, dam by Reveller, 3 vrs —Prizefighter, 4 yrs—Phlegon, 4 yrs—lonran, 3 yrs—The Broken Down, aged—Orion, 4 yrs—The Bishop of Romford cob, 4 yrs—Atnorino, 4 vrs—Siricol, 4 yrs—Alice Hawthorn, 6 yrs—Jamal, 4 yrs--S`ewcourt, 4. yrs—Corranna, 5 yrs— Vitellius, 4 yrs—Attila, 5 yrs—Lothario, 4 yrs—Ma Mie, 5 vrs—Gorhambury, 4 yrs—Poison, 4 yrs—Qui Tam, 3 yrs. The New Stakes of 10 sovs. each, with 100 added, for two yr-olds ; colts, Bst 711); fillies, Bst 31b; winners preVious to starting of a stake of 100 sovs. value, including the win ner's own stake, 51b extra. T.Y.C. Mr. J. Chapman's b f Alice Lowe—Mr. H. T. Wortley's br f Sophy Dawes—Mr. Griffith's br f Wild Rose--Mr. R. Newman's Bloodstone—Mr. Bristow's b or To f Canis sima—Lord Lonsdale's c by Jerry, Turquoise—Lord Lons dale's c Loadstone—Mr. G. H. Moore's ch f Solace—Col. Anson's ch f Piquante—Mr. G. Ongley's b f Mystery — Lord Exeter's f Timbria—Lord Albemarle's Scarmentado— Lord Albemarle's Alecto—Mr. Booth's b f .New Year's Day— Mr. J. S. Story, jun.'s ch c by Ells, out of Corrigie Bagh, by Glencoe—Mr. T. Stevens's br f Wintonian, out of Lucy Bank's dam—Mr. Heseltine's b c itz-Allen (late Fielding) —Mr. Mostyn's Master Stepney—Mr. Mostyn's c Pantasig— Capt. Vyse's br f Trapola—Mr. J. B. Minor's ch f Bird's-wing —Mr. Bradshaw's gr c Manasseh—Mr. Gratwicke's c by Slane, out of the Margravine—Mr. S. Scott's bl or br fby Sir• Hercules, dam by Comus, out of Laurel-leaf—Mr. Payne Rigolotte—Mr. Payne's Sir Francis—Mr. C. Liley's b f Stamp—Mr. J. May's bl c Corinthian Tom—Mr. T. Walter's ch f My Mary—Lord Rosslyn's b f by Marcjan, dam by Black lock—Mr. J. Day's c Old England (late Bastion)—Mr. Dixon's bl c by Sheet Anchor, out of Mrs. Fry—Lord G. Ben tinck's b f Pulce. The Windsor Forest Stakes of 50 toys. each, h ft, for three year-old fillies, Bst 71b each ; the winner of the One Thou sand Guineas Stakes, Derby, Oaks, or Coronation Stakes, 51b extra. Old mile. Lord Verulam's b f Charlotte—Mr. Gratwicke's Sister to Mary—Mr. Ford's Eccola—Mr. Phillimore's Skeleton. A Sweepstakes of 50 sous. each, for three-year-olds which never-won a stake before the time of closing ; colts, Sst 91b ; fillies, Bst 51b; the winner of either Riddlesworth, the Column, Two Thousand Guineas, One Thousand Guineas, or Oaks Stakes, 61b, or any two of the above, or the Derby, 101 b extra; no horse to carry more than 10Ib extra. New mile. Sir G. Heathcote's Campanero—Mr. Ford's Sir Diggory Diddle—Mr. Combe's Keeley. The Dinner Stakes of 100 sovs. each, h ft, for the produce -of mares covered in 1840; colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 41b; those- got by untried stallions, or out of untried mares, allowed 31b; if both, 51b. Old mile. Lord G. Bentinck's f (dead), by Bay Middleton, out of Ca marine's dam, 31b—Lord G. Bentinck's br f by Bay Middle ton, out of Flycatcher, 31b—Lord G. Bentinck's b f Here-I go-with-my-le-out, 31b—Lord G. Bentinck's b c by Bay Middleton, out of Lady Emmeline, 31b—Captain Williamson's f by Defence, out of Albania, 31b—Captain Williamson's c by 'Defence, Fanny—Mr. Herbert's Antler—Mr. Herbert's ch by Ellis, Nanine, 31b—Mr. Herbert's ch c by Ellis, De lightful, 51b—Lord Orford's c Arragon—Colonel Peel's b f Zenobia—Colonel Peel's b c Orlando—Lord Glasgow's hl f by Velocipede, out of Miss Whip, 31b—Lord Chesterfield's b f Audrey, 31b—Lord Chesterfield's b f The Bee, 31b—Col. Anson's b c Massena (dead )—Colonel Anson's ch f Buzz. The Grand Stand Plate of 50 sovs. (handicap), added to a Sweepstakes of 5 sovs. each ; if fifteen subscribers, the second to receive 20 sovs. out of the stakes. Once round and a distance. A Sweepstakes of 10 says, each, with 25 added if not walked over, for three yrs old; colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 81b;- the winner to be sold for 500 sovs. Old mile. _ FRIDAY. The Wokingham Stakes of 530 VS. each (handicap), for three yrs old and upwards. Last three-quarters of the New mile. The Windsor Town Plate of 50 sovs. ; two yrs old, sst 61b ; three, 7st 101 b ; four, Bst 81b ; five and upwards, 9st ; mares and geldings allowed 31b; the winner to be sold for 100 sovs. T.Y.C. Match.—Mr. Copeland's b f Assay, Bst 71b, agst Sir S. Spry's Botherem, Bst ; 150, h ft. Last mile and a quarter of the Swinley course. Match.—Captain It. H. Vyse's f Trapola, Bst 71b, agst Lord March's c Jewboy, by Mus, out of Jewess (pedigree un known), Bst 41b ; both two years ; 50. Last half mile. Sealed Match.—Colonel - Peel's Orlando received ft from Mr. Copeland's Imsum, Bst 71b. ; 200, h ft. • MANCHESTER RACES.—THURSDAY. Sweepstakes of 10 sovs. each, with- 40 added, for two-year olds. T.Y.C. • Mr. Heseltine's Marian Ramsay (Bumby) 1 Mr. Cook's Yellow Boy ... 2 Mr. Wilson's Cracker ........... Mr. Thompson's cby Monarch, out of Tom Slape's dam 4 The Kersal Stakes of 10 soy& each, with 30 added, for three year olds. One mile and three quarters. Mr. Boyd's Dog Billy (Marson) 1 Mr. J. Osborne's Boniface Her Majesty's Plate of 100 Guineas. Three miles and a dis. Mr. Meiklam's Trueboy, 4 yrs (Templeman) 1 Mr. Cooke's Bedalian, aged EPPING TOWN RACES-TUESDAY, The Sweepstakes of 3 sovs. each, and 10 added, twice round and a distance, were won, in three heats, by Mr. Law's Isa bella, beating Mr. Brown's Latona and two ethers. A Sweepstakes of 2 sovs. each, and 7 added, twice round and a distance, were won, in two heats, by Mr. Law's Isabella, beating Mr. Nightingale's Ascot and two others. - The Hurdle Race was won, in two heats, by Mr. Button's Faith. WINSLOW RACES—WEDNESDAY. The Trial Stakes of 3 soya. each, and 15 added, one mile and a half, were won by Mr. Price's Little John, 4 yrs, beating three others. The Ladies' Purse, for ponies, &c., twice round, was won in two heats, by Mr. Creswell's Victoria, beating four others. The bunters' Stakes of 2 sovs. each, and 15 added, one mile and a half, were won, in two heats, by Mr. Westley's Mary Anne, beating Mr. Brown's Pauline, Mr. Price's Little John, and two others. The Hurdle. Stakes of 5 sovs. each, and 20 added, the second saves his • stakes, twice round and a distance, were won, in four heats, by Mr. Cowper's Independence, 4 yrs (Roots), beating Brilliant and two others. WINDSOR. THURSDAY EVENTSG.—The Earl of Delawarr, Lord Cham berlain, arrived at the Castle a few days since, for the purpose of giving instructions for the necessary arrangements for the reception. of the King of Saxony and suite, who are expected to be the guests of the Queen during the Ascot race week. • The State rooms (a portion of which will be required by her Majesty during the Ascot race week), which were closed to the public on Wednesday (yesterday), will not be re opened until after the races. The grand reception-room, the Waterloo Chamber, and St. George's Hall, are now being prepared for the distinguished guests who have been ho noured with invitations from her Majesty during the ensuing week, when splendid entertainments will be g►ven by the Queen to numerous and distinguished visitors. Preparations were commenced this afternoon at the Queen's Stand, at Ascot, for the reception Of the Court during the ensuing races. There is no doubt that Prince Albert, accom panied by the King of Saxony, will honour the course, on one day at least, with his presence; and, should her Majesty be in the enjoyment of her present state of health, it is most probable that her loyal subjects will be gratified with the presence of their beloved Sovereign. • ROYAL VISITS.—We are enabled to state that the Kin of the French will arrive in this country, on a visit to her Majesty, towards the latter end of September. The King will land at Portsmouth, and will be accompanied by a nu - merous suite of officers and attendants. Marshal Aoult was to have accompanied his Sovereign during his progress, but, AS President of the Council, his presence at Paris is found b be indispensable during the King's absence.—Post. YEOMANRY C4V4144Y.-4nstructions from the Home Secretary's Office baying been issued, authorising the assembling of the undermentioned corps of Yeomanry Cavalry for the .usual annual six days' permanent duty i—fhe Lan gaslllre Corps will meet at Lancaster, on the 14th of June; the Mid-1044 PPF,Ps at Edinburgh, on the 19th of July; And tbe LeicesterslwP clorps at Edinburg h, 9R the Pti of September. The West India Dock Company discharged the Penelope, Ward, from Trinidad, consisting of 358 63 barrels sugar, and 147 puncheons molasses, in seyen and-a-half hours, GLASS DUTIES. On the motion Of the CHANCELLOR of the EX . CHEQUER, the Glass . and Vinegar Duties' Bill was committed pro . forma, . . ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS. On the motion for reading the Order of the Day for going iutO Committee on the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill, Captain PECHELL presented a petition from Brighton against the Bill. Mr. M. PHILIPS presented a petition from the Law Society of Manchester, praying that a clause should be inserted - in the Bill, consolidating the powers of certain of these courts. . Mr. T. DUNCOMBE rose to move an instruction to the Committee to abolish all ecclesiastical courts, and to transfer the jurisdiction of those courts to civil tribunals. His object was to take away all jurisdiction from the ecclesiastical courts, and to put an end to the caprice and injustice that took place there. To effect this there could be no doubt that the whole of Doctors' Commons must be swept away, and that in its place proper tribunals must be appointed to replace the mummeries and impositions that not only disgraced the country, but affected the best interests of religion. He did not believe that 658 gentlemen calling themselves reasonable men would attempt to bolster up a system so inconsistent' with reason. He wished to see all the doctors and proctors who infested Doctors' Commons cast out, and he for one would be prepared to give them all the compensation they could prove themselves entitled to. In all the proceedings which • had taken place from 1829, when the Ecclesiastical Commission was appointed, in all the Bina which had been introduced into Parliament whether by Whigs or by Tories ; they had but pro ceeded from bad to worse till they had arrived at the ne plus ultra of worthlessness in the present matter.— (Laughter.) He thought that the Learned Civilian whom he saw opposite (Dr. Nicholl) would be' obliged to sit down in despair in attempting to improve the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill, for.he would find that his materials.were so rotten and so corrupt that he would be the tinker perplexed, who in curing one hole created twa.—(Laughter.) It was true the Bill got rid of some spiritual jurisdictions and offences, such as tithes, and defamation, and smiting in the church-yard— (Laughter)—which subjected the offender to the loss of one ear, and if he had not one he was to be branded on the cheek with the letter F.--(Laughter.) But that the health of the souls of her Majesty's subject: might, not be altogether neglected, tht y left behind such offences as simony, heresy, brawling, blasphemy, perjury, drunkenness, incest, adultery, fornication, incon tinence, and other evil habits--(Laughter)—over which the jurisdiction of the ecclesiastical court was continue& The jurisdiction of the ecclesiastical courts over Church-rates was continued, though the Ecclesiastical Commissioners recommended that it should be abolished. He knew no reason why this jurisdiction should be con tinued, except that it occasionally promoted fraud, and that it brought grist to the mill of the lawyers in Doctors' Commons. He would give one instance in which the Rev. Theodore 'Williams proceeded ag .inst Mr: J. Hall, and upon which a most absurd decision was given by Dr. Lushington. It' seemed that there was a meeting in the vestry for a church-rate, at which the Rev. Vicar was expected to be present, but he was behind time, apd a motion for adjourning the meeting was car ried. 'He came after this, and no doubt was very angry. Some dispute took place between him and Mr. Hall, who said he was a disgrace to his cloth, for which he was dragged into the ecclesiastical court. The House would be surprised to hear what the costs were in that case. The first was an item " for the soul's health."—(A laugh.) Gentlemen might laugh, but the words were pro salute anime.—(Renewed laughter.) He supposed that this was something for the soul to take with it in its travels to the other world—a sort of viaticuin, he supposed.—(Great laughter.) But the fee had been transferred' from the soul to the stomach. and Peter had been robbed to pay Paul, or rather to pay Theodore.—(lncreased laughter.) Well, what was the next charge ? He did not know very well what the word meant—it was " Fortunate," 3s. 6d. —(Loud laughter.) He really could not throw any light upon the subject. He did not know what the item meant—whether it was fortunate for the clerk, fortunate for the court, or fortunate for the suitors.—(Laughter.) The Right Hon. Baronet opposite perhaps might els - plain the meaning of these charges ; he did hot ask the reason of them, for there was no reason in them, and he would not insult the Right Hon. Gentleman, by asking him to find a reason.—(Laughter.) He must come now to the judgment, and he must say, that he never read so absurd a judgment in his life. The judgment was, that Mr. James Hall should be excommunicated from the parish church for ono week of seven days. The judge said that the words used by the Rev. Theodore Williams were . words of contempt, and that Mr. Hall spoke under provocation when he said that Mr. Williams was a disgrace to his cloth, and he would therefore order that 301. should be deducted from the costs—(Hear, hear)—but even after this de duction, Mr. Hall's costs amounted to ,180/.--(Hear, hear.) But what was the punishment upon Mr. Hall, besides the payment of this money? He was to be shut out for seven days from the parish church, into which he would never enter if he had a spark of spirit.—(Hear, hear.) Now, let them look to the class of offences to which the jurisdiction of these courts extended—drunkenness, idolatry, fornication, incontinence, and other evil praotices—(Great laughter) —for all of which; any of you (said the Hon. Gentle man) may 'be liable 'to be cited to the ecclesiastical courts—(Shouts of laughter)—for all these they were liable to be called on to do public penance, and in any place which the court might appoint—(The laughter was so great, that it was quite impossible to catch cor rectly the words of the Hon. Gentleman)—they might be called upon to do public penance in the church—(Re newed laughter)—and to recant—(Laughter.) Yes, he was serious; they would be obliged to recant.—(Laugh ter.) He was not speaking of imaginary things, for in the district which he had the honour to represent a wo man had lately been obliged to do public penance in the church, because she had spoken, perhaps, too lightly of the chastity of her sister.—(A laugh.) The following scene occurred in St. John's;---Rebecca Cohen, the Jewess, having imputed to Deborah, her sis ter, a total want of chastity,a, process was commenced in the spiritual court of the Bishop of London, and after about 701. had been run up in fees, Reba was allowed to expiate her offence by going to the cluirch in ser vice hours, and then and there, before the church wardens, overseers, and ministers, recanting. The re cantation was, in fact, a fraud, because, instead of being done publiCly in the church, as had been ordered, the parties wore let in and out pri vately at the vestry-door, and hundreds of persons who had heard that this ceremony for the good of Rebecca's soul was to take place, were disappointed.—(Hear, hear.) Well might the parochial authorities and the ecclesiass tical courts be ashamed of such a proceeding ; but that House ought to be more ashamed if it continued its sanction of courts from which emanated 'such an amount of absurdity. What a, hardship was it upon the subject that this individual had to pay 70/ for this process. Now, with regard to•the brawling, what had happened to Mr. Theodore Williams within the last few days ? He had been brought before the bench of Middlesex magistrates for inciting to a breach of the peace one of his own pa rishioners, a respectable freeholder. He certainly did not do this in the churchsyard, but on the highway. The House would recollect the language used by Hall to Williams : let them now compare it with that used - by Williams to Mr. Smith. He said to him." You are a thick-headed fellow," and shook his fist in thezomplainant's face, The clergyman then said, " You are a dirty fellow--you are a shabby fellow—you are a coward," and he added, " You dare not fight." On complainant saying, "If I am a coward, I will meet yousinany spot 'you please ;" the defendant exclaimed, "What, what, we'll discuss the question, Sir."--- . -(A laugh.) What was. the result ? Why that ,the magistrates in flicted dui highest fine which they could impose under the Police Act, namely, 408, I so that, in point of fact, there was one law in the ecclesiastical courts and another in the civil courts ; whereas 40s. was (he highest fine which' oould be inflicted in the one, 1801. for costs, and - seven ' days' banishment from church, could b e imposed in the other, W e ll , then, were all these offences to remain upon the statute book ? He had the authority of a 'tight Rev. Prelate in favour of h i s v i ews . A Bill had. been, introduced into the other House or - Parliament by the Bishop of Exeter, for the purposo o f putting down incontinency; fornication, and-all those other evil habits ; provin g th a t these courts had n eglected their duty and Hera not adequate to suppress the immorality the age — . A Bishop might have better opportunities of' ascertaining the truth than himself. The Ilon. Member was then pro s eecim' g to quote the Bill, when he was int errupted by The SPEAM‘ who stated tha t, the was lot bertgO the 1.4 0 , u4e , i 4 Could at, as , not be quoted. Ails Ts Di.TNOOMBE proceeded--The ecclesias tical courts would - do well to confine themselves to the affairs of their own courts,' could not see why the . courts of assiß were not competent to decide questions that were usually brought before the cede'. 314.stie0 courts. Such tribunals were founded on Com , Moss sense and common justice, and Lord lisle and Laid Uelt had denounced the' ecclesiastical catis , to as iris bunals against common justice to s sd eernmon sense.— (Hear, hear.) The --s n ees Uentleusan concluded by ipoving the .xenon of which he had given notice, ' lIIPME seconded the motion. Dr. NICHOLL said that the prinelpie ofthe Bill had been affirmed on the second reading, so far as related to the.retention of gertAin .portions of ecclesiastical juris • dictleiri but the-110% Gentleman was-not satisfied with ~:( ~ ~ a ~~'°!~O% ice. y,.n~,{i that, and wanted to hand the ecelesi altogether ; but •at the end, of hikk! tleman said that be..was prepares 1 siastical jurisdietion,for ate, thsciplia., was absolutely. essential for be maint_ blished Church, that it, shoulstpossess It t W i thm. With regard to the Pa%e.alluded to -.1- o i y e op. ar ..: tleman, he begged to Ten4ind him that where t ere were two . litigious persons, a case N‘ould be attendel + vtith . • iarge costs in any of their courts of equity or cotta.non . laik:i; but the . case, 'alluded to by the Honourable entieman would be put an end to by- the Bill, if )theibrawling did not take place in:the church ; but if it - ti:olt place in. the church surely the H on . :Gentleman Would not, for decency's sake, wish that there should not be a means to prevent it. The Hon. Gentleman had .alluded to' a Bill broullit in by the Bishop of Ext ter. - Ile had never heard of it, and it would not meet with his POpprobation if it came to that House. , The Hon. Gen- :•'Peinan alluded to him as being personally; connected With those courts. Now he had ceased to have any Connexion with them since 1841, and he would not for the- future have any iaterest in them directly or in directly. There were two Commissions,appointed, the Real Property Commission anti the Ecclesiastical Courts Commission. The Peal Property Commission made their report in 1833, and they recommended, the transfer of . testamentary matters to the Chancery Court. Both these reports were afterwards referred to a Select ~ Committee, before which persons of the highest eminence were examined, and they arrived at the conclusion that it was not desirable to act on the rep: t of the Real Property Commissioners, and accordingly Bills had been brought in, both un:ler Lord Grey's Go vernment and under the Government of his Right Hon. Friend, leaving matters of testamentary jurisdiction to the ecclesiastical courts. He thought, upon the whole, that the Bill was one of the best which could be devised, • and he hoped the motion of the Hon. Gentleman would be rejected by a large majority. Sir G. GREY said that the question had been sub stantially decided by the House as stated by the Right Hon. Gentleman in the second reading, but as he (Sir G. Grey) was in the minority on that occasion, he was not precluded from speaking now.—(Laughter.) The Right Hon. Gentleman said . that a criminal jurisdiction was absolutely essential to an established church. He (Sir G. Grey) did not wish to deprive the ecclesiastical courts of such jurisdiction with regard to offences against discipline, but he objected to their retaining the criminal jurisdiction which the report of the Ecclesiastical Com missioners said they ought not to have. He understood from the Right Hon. Gentleman that, with regard to brawling, he intended to repeal the statutes of FAlward VI., and to leave untouched the common-law jurisdic tion. With regard to incest and adultery, it appeared from the report that offences of such description were brought before the court for a series of years, , and they were of opinion that they ought to be abolished, altogether. The Right Hon. Gentleman s a id th at no Bill which bad been introduced into that Ilou-e went the length of abolishing all the ecclesiastical courts. But every Bill had proceeded, on the assumption that there should be only one court to exercise jurisdiction, although that court should be one which exercised the jurisdic tion which now belonged to the ecclesiastical courts. They had now the option either of abolishinc , these courts altogether, or of submitting to about five-aud thirty ecclesiastical courts, not merely retained but reorganised. Under these circumstances, and looking at the altered circumstances in which they were Vier). placed, he should support th e amen d ment of his "ion. Friend. r~, ~. ~ f -; ~ A 6r - K The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said he had listened with great attention to the speech of the Hon. Member for Finsbury, and derived from it great entertainment ; but his reasoning seemed to lihrrather inconclusive., li e was not there to justify the course of proceedings in, the ecclesiastical courts in all particulars ; but it did not follow from that admission that all the powers possessed by the ecclesiastical courts should be abolished. He was quite sure that the Hon. Gentleman had not consi dered the utter impossibility of the civil courts, as at pre sent constituted, exercising the powers of the ecclesiasti cal courts. Now, he had had some experience of the ecclesiastical courts, and he saw no reas on to compla i n of the manner in which they exercised their jurisdiction. He could not see that the slightest benefit would result from transferring their powers to the civil co urts . He did not understand the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Devonport to be disposed to do more than abolish a part, of the powers possessed - by these courts. He thought no case had been made out for the course proposed thk, Hen, Gentleman. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared— For the motion • Against it 115 Majority —45 The House then resolved itself into Committee. Sir G. GREY moved that the criminal jurisdiction of the ecclesiastical courts should be abolished, and also their jurisdiction witk respect to church-rates. Dr. NICHOLL opposed the motion. Mr, JERVIS trusted that the proposition of the Right Hon. Baronet, the Member for Devonport, would be re-considered by the Governm en t. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said a very strict jurisdic tion existed in the Scotch Church. Dr. ELPHINSTONE said it would be far better to carry into effect the recommendatk o n of the Archbishop of Canterbury and the other Co , lnmissioners, that offences of this nature should be talzett` before civil tribunals. Lord J. RUSSELL thought the recommendations of the Archbishop of "Canterbury, and other bishops, in cluding the lde Bishop of Durham, ought to be carried into effeet. M". ESCOTT said he should vote for the clause as `..mended. Dr. NICHOLL said he considered the recommenda tion of the Commissioners was a hasty recommendation in this respect. Lord J. RUSSELL was surprised at the statement of the Right Hon. Gentleman that this was a hasty recom mendation: The Commission was appointed in 1830, and their report was made in 1832. The recommenda tion was signed by the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Bishops of London, Lichfield, Bangor, St. A sap h , b y Sir N. Tindal, by Sir J. Nicholl, Dr. Lushington, and other Commissioners, and he certainly would be rather guided by the opinions of those persons on a Church question thus solemnly expressed, than the opinion o r the Right Hon. Gentleman, who now said it was a hasty recommendation. Mr. GLADSTONE said that the Bill, in its present form, had come down from the House of Lords with the sanction of the heads of the Church. The question was not now whether the Ecclesiastical Commissioners were right in changing the opinion they appeared to have en tertained in 1832. They had changed their opinion, and it was a very grave question whether the Church should not have a power of correcting abuses within itself. He thought the Church should possess a power of repul sion. The question was not now whether the present tribunal was the best to try those offences, but the ques tion was, whether it wa not right, that till such a tri bunal was established, the power here claimed fir tho Church ought not to exist in the Church. Mr. WARBURTON supported the amendment. The House then divided, when the numbers were— For the amendment Against it Majority against the amendment —lB On-the admission of strangers we found Mr. WARBURTON contending against the clause which gcave to the ecclesiastical courts a criminal juris diction in cases of what was called brawling in churches. Mr. JARVIS insisted that brawling in churches ought to be dealt with as other breaches of the peace. Dr. NICROLL said that the sacredness of the house of worship required peculiar protection. Mr. WATSON thought it was a great offence against morals and decency to interrupt any congregation of worshippers in divine service. But the criminal law of the country was sufficient to repress any such outrage, without the necessity of extraordinary powers to the ecclesiastical courts. Mr. ROEBUCK said the whole object of the clause was to obtain costs, and such was the object of the sole remnant of the old gigantic papal power in this coun try—costs —money. Those old monkish superstitions about its being a greater offence to knock a man down in a churchyard than on the highway, had been long since exploded, at least in a moral sense ; and it was too bad in this enlightened age to perpetuate such a legal absur dity and injustice. He was one of those who did not think that the enunciation of a few words from a human being like ourselves, made that spot the more sacred ; and he, therefore, considered that the punishment for assaulting a man on the highway should be as great as for the same offence in the churchyard, and that there was no reason why it should not be tried in the same manner. Sir G. GREY wished to be understood. He wished to take away ecclesiastical jurisdiction altogether in criminal matters—to leave such matters for the decision of the common law courts. Mr. WARBURTON wished to know why the same regulations should not apply to the churchyards of Dis senters as to those of Episcoralans. Dr. BOWRING put the hypothesis to the House, if a man who' wished to hear the tenets of the Established Church, and yet from religious and conscientious scru ples would not take his hat off, was such a man to be punished by the ecclesiastical court ? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said such a man should stay away altogether.—(Hear, hear.) If he committed any indecency or indecorum in a house of Divine wor ship during Divine service he certainly was punishable according to the ecclesiastical law.—(Hear.) Mr. JERVIS deprecated a system which at present existed in rural districts where the clergymen of the parish turned out sheep and other cattle to graze in their churchyards. Colonel SIBTHORP, in reply to the question from the Hon. and Learned Member for Bolton, as to what would be done to a person, such as a gentleman who wore his hat in a church from conscientious motives, stated that it was his opinion such a man ought not to be turned out only but afterwards placed in the stocks. Dr. BOWRING spoke a few words in explanation, The Gallant Gentleman had misunderstood his question. What he asked was whether if a Quaker should act so injudiciously as to wear his hat in a church; would the Common law reach him, or was that Bill necessary to punish him? Mr. BULLER could see nothing in an offence com mitted In a churchyard which should prevent it bei ng dealt with by the common law of the land. After a few words from Mr.WATSON and Mr. ROE BUCK; the galleries were cleared for a division. None, ilewever, took place, and on our return to the gallery. we found Sir R. PEEL addressing the Rouse. He was under stood to say that there were undefined offences, which could only be dealt with by th e ecc l esiastical courts. Mr. HUME said it was then to be understood" that she offences which wore to be left in the <'hands of ecclesiastical courts were offences which could not be described.—(Cheers.) Mr. ROEBUCK said there was no offence cognizshle by the ecclesiastical courts which was not also cognizable U