The Sun. — London, England, 1839-06-12 00:00:00

-.-EAYANTiNG -EDtTION. THE BALLOT The ridiculous assertion of the Tories, that the Country was with them, is already given up. It was one of the bubbles forced to the surface during a brief interval of agitation, and destined, in the calm that succeeded, to go the way of all bubbles. The country never was with the Tories—it never can be with the Tories. To suppose the existence of any points of agreement between the Tories and the mass of the people, is about as reasonable as to suppose a union between fire and water ; they are antagonist elements, and th closer they approach the nearer they arrive to the certain destruction of one or the other. Like all irreconcileable bodies, the greater distance they keep apart the better for both. The proper position for tl.e Tories in this age, when Liberal principles are in the ascendancy, is the opposition. It is a lucky thing for themselves, as well as for the people, that they must remain in the opposition, whether they like it or In t, for an indefinite period. But the Tories have always been lucky dogs ! The admission of the Ballot as an open question has determined the wavering feelings of the Reformers. They only wanted some distinct ground to meet and co-operate upon, and they have obtained it in this ini tial proposition, which at once frees the constituencies and leads the way to all other Reforms. The reception throughout the country of the cheering intelligence that Government was prepared to allow the Ballot to rest upon its o w n mer i ts g i ves an asseance of support that can neither be mistaken nor undervalued. If any dif ferences yet exist as to the expediency of urging on other measures at the same time, none can exist as to the imperative necessity of straining every nerve to carry this as speedily as possible. It is the " Open sesame" that is to reveal to us the buried treasures of a repre sentative Constitution. Mr. Grote's motion, fixed for the 13th, will decide not only the amount of support to be looked for from the present House of Commons, but the quarters from whence it is to be derived, which is a still more important consideration in reference to the future. When it is seen who are the advocates of the Ballot; the subsequent progress of that question witl either be accelerated beyond all former example, or an advance in other directions can no longer be postponed. The Tory journals, evidently alarmed at the events that are casting their shadows so thickly before, affect to think that the Ballot was always an open question with the Ministry, and that, in fact, the Reformers will gain nothing whatever by the recent toleration of the Cabinet. This is a juggle. The Ballot was not an open question ; it was treated with a reserve and caution that was nearly equivalent to opposition. If the votes of Ministers were not recorded collectively against it, the weight of Ministerial influence was felt to be against it. If one or two Members of Parliament holding subordinate offices under Government, voted in favour of the Ballot, they carried no official influence with them ; there was neither responsibility nor authority attached to their votes ; and the progress of the Ballot was as effectually frustrated, to all intents and purposes, as if the entire Administration had opposed it to a man. But this powerful negation, irresistible though vague, is at an end. A tone of confidence and exhiliration is diffused amongst the advocates of the measure, by a knowledge of the fact that, however in dividuals may vote, the Cabinet offers no obstruction The natural consequence will be, to impart an elasti city to the question which it never possessed before, and to surround it on the instant with an interest and an importance greater than its most sanguine friends could have anticipated, except through the action of some overwhelming pressure from without. The wisdom of anticipating such a provision —of giving to legislation the dignity of independent action—will hardly be denied to Ministers, even by the Tories them selves. Does any man in the country believe that the Ballot, under any circumstances, could have been much longer put off ? Ten years ago its supporters were few, powerless, and isolated. It was dealt with as if it were a mere fantastic theory. It was impossible to muster, at la public meeting, half a dozen individuals of pro perty and station to hold up their hands for it. The most impracticable chimera that ever entered the brain of a day-dreamer, could not have been treated with more derision and contempt. By slow and almost imperceptible dekrees, it began to take a more tangible shape, to occupy a share in general conversation, and to be seriously discussed in the periodicals. Then came the Reform Bill, which for a season lulled the uneasiness of the public mind ; but the Reform Bill failed to work cut the results that were expected from it ; the new constituencies, corrupted and menaced by the Tories, gave way. The reformsd House of Commons presented the monetrotilk anomaly of a Legislative Assembly, nomi nally representative, but really hostile to the people, and from that moment the Ballot became the rallying ques. tion of the country. It ceased to be a speculation ; the failure of the Reform Bill to realize the just hopes of the people, resolved it at once into a strong and urgent necessity. So long as any means of obtaining a true representation in Parliament, more con sonant with English usages, and the spirit of our Constitution existed, the Ballot could never have acquired the extensive popularity by which it is now sustained ; but it was no sooner discovered that all such means were impotent to rescue the con stituencies from the tyranny of a wealthy and active faction, who prostitute their power to the coercion of opinion, than the Ballot was resorted to as the only alternative that remained. It is a corollary from the Reform Bill, as clearly substantiated by the inade quacy of that measure to secure the end for which it was devised, as any known effect may be traced to any known cause. The advocates of the Ballot do not now include merely those who hold it to be good as a general principle, but multitudes who, waiving the principle, embrace it as a special necessity. It has made more converts in a short period, than any question that has ever been agitated in this country ; and so peculiar are the circumstances by which it has risen into importance, that no man need be ashamed of frankly acknowledging his conversion. The history of its progress is full of admonition, and pregnant with useful suggestions. A few years ago it was the clamorous tocsin of a small section of the disconnected non-electors ; in a few nights hence it is to be submitted to the House of Commons in a formal motion by Mr. Grote, one of the Members for the city of London, seconded by Lord Worsley, one of the Members for a large English county, and encouraged to take a bolder position than it has ever yet assumed, by being left on the part of the Government to make its own impres sion. Thus it has gone on increasing the number of its supporters by the force of events, and ascending from neglect and ridicule to the rank of a vital question of domestic legislation. Yet in the face of these facts, the Tories, only one fortnight ago, boasted that the coml.-. try was in their favour. Is it a proof of the Tory ten dency of the country that a measure which is re sorted to as a protection against Tory abuse should have made such an unparalleled progress ? The Ballot may be good, or the Ballot may be bad : but, from ;whatever point it may be viewed, it is unque tionably anti-Tory. Can it be shown that / a single advocate of the Ballot has gone over to the other side? And if it be as clear as the sun at noon-day that this anti-Tory movement has drawn by far the greater number of its present sup porters from the ranks of those who formerly opposed it, we should like to know what becomes of the impu dent boast which the Tory journals have had the effron tery to tine the changes upon so lustily during the las few weeks ? . CAUTION TO MOTHERS. —An invetete drinker in B os t on l ays the whole blame of his degradation upon his mother, who, he says, weaned him on salt fish.— , New York Sun. ; On Thursday, the 30th ult., a eoble belonging to the salmon fi s hi ng stat i on of Messrs. Hogarth, adjacent to Whitehills, left t h e h ar b our at Biackpots, about eleven t 1 o'clock in the forenoon, for the purpose of bringing on shore their bagnet, which, owing to the violence of the serf, was apparently driving among the rocks, where it would soon have been torn to pieces. The cubic was manned by four men, Charles Maclean, James Robertson, and two lads from Rosemarkie, near Cromarty, who, pro ceedin,.; towards the net, the boat swung round broadside on to the wave, and was struck by a heavy sea, and three of the men precipitated into the water. One of them re gained the boat, which had (relieved of the men) again righted, but full de water. This young man, being an ex icellent swimmer, rashly resolved, by the assistance of the boat, to clear himself of the incumbrancc of his clothes, and swim on shore, which, having partly effected, the boat , being then sunk to the gunwales, he left her to make the 1 : io t t e l r e n n p t , t h ; eb wasutthe o tide on ex t h h a e u n s t r e u d n , n a i 7 1 5 wstrong, much and ei aa c h u e i ty. surf he ye-ached the rocks, where he was dashed by a tremendous Wave upon the very first rock ho reached, and killed on the spot; hi s b od . others, for a ver yhaa not yet been recovered. The two ,_.„_,,.._...,_. . y brief space, .wer4 seen struggling Ho ( !iy, '1. 0 ,14 r, ~ .ut soon disappeared. One of them i s c o e P e t i g a cw4 r uitt 'ep,„ 47 ; 2 '.' .t: an.,cl.dr.ifted with h er on shore, but • oubtful: ra I • .e.„,.,, , ims day (M (Monday) his recovery is - - i d. I X i"rtir~~ ~, i ~.4 `1" - ;;A : II S SOUTHAMPTON, TUESDAY MORNING. The proceedings in connection with this interesting event did not terminate until an early hour this morning; and, perhaps, in the entire history of this county nothing has heretofore occurred which has created an equal sense r tion, or drawn together so great a number of people. Winchester, Portsmouth, Portsea, the adjacent towns, and the Isle of Wight, poured forth their thousands to hail the consummation of this portion of so great a na tional undertaking; and during the day the crowds that lined almost the entire way from Southampton to Win ' chester testified their feeling with shouts of gratulation, which evinced that they appreciated the consequence at tached to what they saw, and fully understood that they were individually concerned in the vast effort that was making to open new and extensive sources of commercial enterprise, and bring them speedily into active and gigantic operation. On Sunday all the accessible portions of the line were densely crowded with the most respectable of all classes ; and yesterday morning, at the hour at which the first train was appointed to start for Winchester—namely, seven o'clock—alb the approaches to the branch station-house (the terminus not being yet completed) assumed the ap pearance of the neighbourhood of a popular fair. Booths had been erected, with the double view of affording re freshment and a clear view of the departing and arriving trains, and of such accommodation the multitude availed themselves to the fullest possible extent. At length the interesting period—the moment of start ing arrived,—but, 10, the stage coach, which had engaged a place in the train, for the direct conveyance of passengers to London, had not arrived ; and when it did arrive, considerable time was lost in placing it on the vehicle ' constructed for the reception of such " luggage," and the interim was filled up with " rides" to and from the station and the cistern erected for the supply of water ; this de lay, however, brought a considerable accession of passen gers, and about eight o'clock the train, consisting of five carriages, proceeded onward amidst the cheers of surround ing thousands, and soon accumulated astonishing speed. The beautiful approach to Southampton, on the causeway crossing an arm of the Jtchen, was passed with a rapidity which called forth the admiration of those even who were accustomed to railroad travelling, and the magnifi cent view of the Vale of the Itchen was at once deve loped. The several bridges, crowded with spectators, were then successively passed under ; and the venerable pile of Winchester, the celebrated cathedral, in which the ashes of Egbert, Rufus, and many of our ancient kings and nobles repose, together with the Hospital of St. Cross, and the Palace, broke in upon the view, and the company found themselves in Winchester I The journey was performed in about twenty-five minutes. It was soon found that the regular times for starting would not accommodate the num ber applying for places, and accordingly it was judiciously resolved, not only to place more carriages on the line, but to run the train as fast as it could be got ready from eithor end; and, consequently, upwards of 1,200 passengers were carried to and fro during the day. • This number will, no doubt, increase during the week, taking the average, as the demand for places on Sunday by the predominating classes rho cannot make holiday when they please, will be im mense. burne disappointment was experienced by the non attendance of the Directors;" but it seems they had made arrangements to dine at Murrell Green, prior to the invitation given to them by the gentlemen of Southampton —a deputation, however, met the Directors at Basingstoke, and a most animating scene was there exhi bited, by the number of carriages, the concourse of specta tors, and the hearty greetings which reciprocally passed. The return train brought many of the parties to South ampton, where the dinner, prepared at the Audit House in first rate style, by Mr. Fisk, of High-street, awaited them. At six o'clock, about seventy gentlemen sat down to the repast, and certainly we never saw or tasted of more sea sonable delicacies, nor a choicer selection of condiments and wines. The latter, however, towards the close of the entertainment, rather deteriorated in quality. J. Bernard, Esq., the Mayor of Southampton was in the chair, sup. ported on his right by Mr. Lobb, Mr. Henderson, Mr. John Wakins Drew, Mr. William Reed, Secretary to the Railroad Company, and Mr. Lock, Engineer. On the immediate left of the Chairman were Mr. Parmiter, the Mayor of Winchester, Colonel Henderson, John Easthope, Jun., Esq., Mr. John King, &c. The Vice- Chairs were filled by Mr. Charles Deacon and Mr. Moberly. The Rev. Mr. Shapcott said grace, after which the work of demolition commenced. On the re moval of the cloth Mr. Shapcott having returned thanks, The CHAIRMAN requested the company to charge their glasses to do honour to a toast which would require very few words from him to induce the company to drink with enthusiasm. In proposing the Queen he knew he was treading upon neutral ground. British hearts would ever desire the happiness, the personal happiness of their Queen. He begged to propose—" The Queen," with three times three. Drank with great enthusiasm. The toast which followed was the health of the " Queen Dowager, and the rest of the Royal Family," which was honoured with all due observance. The " Army and Navy" succeeded, and was acknow ledged by Colonel HENDERSON, who said that it was a curious circumstance connected with the event which they were met to celebrate, that Railroads were calculated to work, both good and evil for the Army—good in time of war, inasmuch as they would save the men many a weary ing march, and evil in time of peace, because the celerity with which the Government could transport troops from one part of the kingdom to another, would enable them to do with less men. But, in time of war, the facility for transporting troops to the coast, either for foreign service, or for the defence of our own shores, would be great indeed. He begged to return them his sincere thanks. Mr. JOU-UTE returned thanks for the Navy. MOBERL/ Esq. proposed the " Mayor and Corpora tion of the town and county of the town of Southampton.' Drank with three times three, and again and again. The MAYOR acknowledged the toast. Whenever a measure had been proposed which really was calculated to benefit the town, it bad always met their support. He would instance the grant of land, or the marsh, which had been made to the Railway Company, without any charge, and when ever a like occasion might happen, they would find the Corporation act with equal liberality. The CHAIRMAN said they had already received the first fruits of the opening of the Railroad, in the person of Mr. Parmiter, the Mayor of Winchester, whose health he begged now to propose. Mr. PAhMITER in returning thanks, said that Winches ter and Southampton were more closely connected than sister towns, and they were within 15 minutes ride of each other. He considered the effects of the railway likely to make Southampton a second Liverpool, in which case Winchester must receive advantage; he anticipated the time, when by reason of the extended buildings between the two towns, the passenger would not be able to tell when he left Winchester, or when he arrived at Southampton. The CHAIRMAN then proposed " Success to the Lon don and Southampton Railway." He was convinced the opening of the railway would fotrn a new era in the history of Southampton--it would be a point from which all subsequent events would be d:ltcd. He had been informed—he hoped not correctly—that the name of the Railway had been charged from the Lor.d...n and Southampton to that of the Lon don and South Western.—(Ne, no.) Ile was happy to find it was incorrect, for that name would convey a merely general and not a local and specific idea. But whatever the name, this was the terminus,—that was a fact which would not be altered.—(Cheers.) This was an undertaking not for the benefit of party, but for the general good and prosperity of the town—not for any particular class, but for the gentlemen as well as the tradesman, for the landlord as well as the tenant. One result of the railway had already shown itself; he had received a requi sition for a meeting to endeavour to procure the establish ment of this port as the Foreign Packet Station, in the event of the removal of the station from Falmouth. He would give " Success to the London and Southampton Railway." Drank with tremendous applause. The CHAIRMAN then gave the " Directors," which was received with great cheering. In proposing this toast, the Chairman referred particularly to the exertions of the Railway Company, and Colonel Henderson the originator and great promoter of the undertaking. J. W. DREW, Esq., in acknowledging the toast, adver ted to the claims which the Directors had on the town for the great exertions and ability they had displayed. They would not be so silly as to suppose that there was not something of self at the bottom , of 'the speculation. For his own part, he would plead guilty to the charge, for he had property in the town, and he expected to derive much personal advantage from it ; to use a homely expression, he expected it would bring grist to his mill. He thought that the completion of the Southampton Railroad would act as an example to be followed throughout Europe. They had that day seen the advantages resulting from the open leg of communication between, two towns of comparatively small note ; but when the line was completed to London, and a direct communication opened with Birmingham and other towns in the north, by which the most remote parts of England might be brought within a twenty-four hours' journey, the full advantage of the undertaking wculd be manifested. He was happy in the reflection that he had taken the smallest share in the advancement of so great a work. They were principally indebted to Mr. E sthope for its completion ; it was his indomitable zeal and industry that had enabled them to surmount the difficulties by which they had been opposed for four or five years. Like all other Railway Companies, they had exceeded their estimates ; but from the high character of the Directors they had been able to raise money to carry them through. JOHN KING, Esq., another Director, also returned :banks. Colonel HENDERSON' said he had maintained his confi dence in the success of the undertaking through good re port and through evil report. He had been once a Direc tor, but had withdrawn at the solicit:tion of the other NDON AND SOUTHAMPTON RAILWAY. Directors, in order that he might take upon himself a more active part in the management—that of Superintendent of the works. It ill became Lim to say anything of his own exertions, but his waking hours and his sleeping bows had been devoted to this undertaking, and he had secluded him- corn society in order to carry it forward. Colonel endt.•rson then alluled to another stupendous sub ect which had been originally included with that )f the railway, but wes separated because it was 'eared that they might not be able to obtain both, whereas ,f they once got the railway the docks would be sure to 7ollow. The subscriptions for the docks bad all been en tered into, and the tenders for immediately cummcncing' heir construction, would be received on the 17th. He concluded by again thanking the Company for the honour they had shown him. JutlN EAS ruoPE, jun., Esq., said, that although the last toast had been so ably acknowledged, he could not allow the allusion which had been made to the Chairman of the railway to pass unnoticed. The reason that he was not present on this occas i on was, that several days previous to receiving their kind invitation he and thi. other Directors had plagued a little e n t erta i nment for their ladies at one of the stations at the other end of the line, where he left them very pleasantly engaged. One of the reasons which i OPENING OF THE SOUTHAMP- had also influenced the Directors was, that it would not be TON END OF THE LONDON AND SOUTH- proper to indulge in festivities till their work was finished, becauseit would be required as long as any por. AMPTON RAILWAY. tion of railway remained unfinished that they should not slumber over it. He confessed himself very sanguine with regard to the probable increase in the pros perity of Southampton consequent on the completion of the railway, and, he hoped, without any diminution of their loyalty, that the inhabitants of Southampton would soon have a sovereign of their own to reign amongst them—that the " British Queen" would arrive as soon as the palace was prepared for her reception.—( Cheers.) He congra tulated them on the success which would attend them, and which he was sure had not been overrated, and he could assure them that when the work was completed the Direc ' tors would meet them in Southampton, when he trusted they would be very happy together. The CHAIRMAN then gave —" Success to the South ampton Docks." Drank with great applause. Mr. LE FEUVRE returned thanks. He had hoped that some Gentleman more closely connected with the Docks would have done so. He did not think that the promo ters of the Docks were influenced entirely by selfish con siderations, for they had displayed also a great deal of public spirit. He trusted that they were determined to go forward for the public benefit as well as for private good. He had little doubt that the work would conduce to the pri vate advantage of its supporters, and be had none whatever that it would be for the benefit of the public,—( Cheers.) Mr. PARMITER ( Mayor of Winchester) by permission of the Chairman, rose to propose a toast ; it was —" The Prosperity of the Trade of the Town of Southampton." The toast was responded to with great applause. Mr. E. RANDALL returned thanks. The CHAIRMAN then proposed—" The Health of the Se cretary of the Company, W. Reed, Esq., who was the right hand of the Directors, and who helped to carry into execu tion the measures that they had planned."—Drank with all the honours. Mr. REED acknowledged the toast. As the humble or gan of the Directors, it had been his duty to carry out to a considerable extent their designs, the wisdom of which was not in the hands that administered, but in the minds that conceived them. This great undertaking would bring Southampton within three hours of the Metropo lis.—( Hear, hear.) It was not complete yet—it was any thing but complete, and he hoped that as far as it had gone, it would yield to the inhabitants the greatest possible amount of benefit. It was impossible but that an undertaking of this magnitude must interfere with some private interests, but the Directors had endeavoured to make the change, if not absolutely agreeable, at least gradual, to the parties affected. With that view they had endeavoured to make such arrangements with the coach masters of the line as would secure to the public the greatest facility for travelling, and shorten as far as possible the distance to London. His friend Mr. Lock had informed him that he hoped shortly to reduce the journey within four hours. He was not connected with the original promoters of the undertaking, but be could assure the Shareholders present that the Directors were deserving of the unbounded confidence which they had always given them. The CHAIRMAN then proposed the health of the Engi neer of the Company, Mr. Lock. He need not point out to such talented gentlemen as he saw present, the difficulties Mr. Lock had to surmount in making a road level from Southampton to Winchester. It was now brought within 18 miles of completion, and if Mr. Lock displayed the same energy he had in the former part of the work, the whole would be complete in twelve months. The toast was received with moth cheerincs. Mr. Lome, in returning thanks, observed that he could not have surmounted many of the difficulties which pre sented themselves in the formation of the line, had it not been for the combination of skill by which he was seconded. He had no doubt whatever that the whole line would be completed in twelve months from the present time. Mr. J. W. DREW proposed the health of the resident engineer, Mr. Dickson. He alluded to the excellent manner in which the rails were laid, and the arrangements made between Southampton and Winchester. He had that morning gone up in the first train in twenty-six minutes, and returned in twenty-one minutes, many parts of the journey being accomplished at the rate of thirty-five to forty miles an hour. He had frequently travelled at the other end of the line, but he had never found any travelling so easy and pleasant as that from Southampton to Win. chester. [The writer of this report, who has travelled by most of the railroads in the kingdom, and especially by the Liver pool and Manchester, which is pronounced to be the most finished, can vouch for the truth of this statement, and challenges contradiction.] Mr. DICKSON acknowledged the compliment. The " Trade of the City of Winchester," and other toasts followed, and the Chairman left the room at about half-past eleven, but a number of the company after ap pointing Mr. Charles Deacon to the Chair, kept up the convi% iality until a very late hour. A dinner on the occasion was given at the Yeoman Inn, East-street, at which there was a very respectable at 'endance, and several minor manifestations of the kind ook place in various parts of the town and neighbourhood. A distance of twenty miles addition of this railway was yesterday opened to the public, viz., twelve miles from Southampton to Winchester at the one end, and eight miles from the Winchfield and Hartley-row station to Ba singstoke at the other. A party of the Directors anti their friends left the terminus at Nine Elms, Vauxhall, at half past eleven, and arrived at the Winchfield station at about five minutes to one, where a great crowd of the country people awaited their coming, and greeted them with several rounds of hearty cheers. After a 'bort delay. the train pro. needed over the new groUnd to Baiingstoke, while upon every height, and at every place ;; where a view could be obtained, groups of anxious and admiring spectators were stationed to watch and applaud the progress of ; the engine and its bulky train upon its maiden excursion. 'I he distance was completed in about twenfy minutes, great speed not being the object, with an case and smoothness which seemed to us the very perfection of loco motion, The station at Basingstoke is very prettily situated upon a long line of embankment, and commands on the left a fine view of that ancient town, with its venerable Gothic church peering up in modest grandeur from amid surrounding houses; and on the right, of the picturesque ruins of Holy Ghost chapel, built in the reign of Henry VIII. The town itself presented the appearance of a holiday : young and old, big and little, rich and poor, gentle and simple, came out in droves to see the train, that unusual visitor, but destined to be no more unusual from that day forth, and promising an increase to their prosperity, and that of the towns fortunate enough to be near the line of that great undertaking. The party, in cluding many ladies, spent an hour very agreeably in look ing about them —many of them, no doubt, and ourselves among the number, feeling half inclined to disbelieve even the most positive evidence that we were in so short a time so far from the smoke and turmoil of busy London. At about half-past two the train started on its return to Winch field, accomplishing the distance without the slightest acci dent or annoyance to mar the pleasures of the day. An elegant dejeuner a la fuurchette was provided at a cottage in the immediate vicinity of the station, to which about 60 ladies and gentlemen sat down; including Mr. Easthope, M P., the Chairman of the Company; Mr. T. Dun combo, M.P., Mr. Bainbridge, Mr. Spicer, Mr. R. Nor man, Mr. George Stone, Mr. Eyre, Mr. Wridit, Mr. llumphrys, Mr. 'Ebben, Mr. Chaplin, Mr. M•Gillivray, &c. &c. At seven o'clock the party broke up, and the train finally reached Vauxhall at ten minutes past eight. The railway, as we have already mentioned, was also opened from Southampton to Winchester at the same time, leaving only 18 miles, viz, the distance from Winchester to Basingstoke, to complete the whole undertaking. These remaining 18 miles are performed by coaches in about two hours, so that passengers from London to Southampton can complete the whole journey within five hours at a charge of 13s. by the outside, or second class carriages, and 21s. by the inside or first class. When the remaining 18 miles of railway are completed, the fares will probably be re ductal to 12s. and 18s., and the time to three hours and a half. The line to connect this railroad with Gos. port and Portsmouth is just commencing. It is expected that it will be finished early in the spring of 1841. The Act of Parliament for its completion is obtained and the works are under the vigilant superintendence of Mr. J Locke. IRELAND. ACTION rOR LIBEL.-\lr Sith, Queen's Counsel, applied last Saturday for a habeas corpus on behalf of Lord Westmeath, to bring up the body of Mr. Richard Barret, - pibprietor of the Pilot, in order that judgment might be - passed- upon him for a libel on his Lordship. After some discussion, it was arranged that Mr. Barrett should be brought up for judgment on the second day of next term. TrrnEs.—Several arrests for payment of tithes have taken place in Queen's County. Amongst other victims were Mr. Mulhall and Mr. Perkinson, front whom, in the shape of " debt and costs," were extorted about 1.50/. ORANGEISM —The Orangemen of Wicklow, unawed by law, and unrestrained by decency, it seems have had the hardihood to re • organize their gang. The following treason able flimmery is found in the columns of an evening paper : " Tile Orangemen of Wicklow feel the time has come for unfurling the Orange standard—that standard which, as it has been never raised but in defence of tho Throne, so has it been never lowered save in compliance with the Monarch's wish—the Orangemen of 1836 consenting to lay it down sooner than add to the embarrassment of their well-meaning, but coerced King. When such dutiful and loyal subjects as Daniel O'Connell and Henry Grattan (what hearts the men must have !) talk about the poi soned chalice,' it is high time for the Protestants of the Empire to arouse and defeat their horrible imaginings.' The Protestants of Wicklow know not how soon they may have occasion to emulate the deeds of their fore-fathers, who, in '9B, fought gallantly and successfully in defence of the Throne and the revered institutions of the conntry." God save the Queen, say we, from the " Protestants of Wicklow," and all such barking blood-hounds. These Ascendancy people are Christians in name only—in reality they are barbarians, thirsting for their brothers' blood. Do they not disgrace that pure form of religion which they profess? ,UICIDE FOR LOVE.—Mary Ann Nightingale, aged twenty-six years, poisoned herself on Friday morn ing at'. Boon-field, near Peterborough, under the following circumstances : —The poor girl had been " keeping com pany" with a young man who went to America. She fol lowed him to the United States, under the impression of becominc , his wife; but, on her arrival, he refused to marry her. She lately returued home, and her faithless sweet heart's conduct so preyed upon her mind that she committed the above fstal act. Sir Isaac Coffin, Bart. has sent a fourth dona tion of 1001, to the Royal Naval School through the editor of the Naval and Military Gazette. The Gallant Admiral, who is in his 81st year, thus concludes the cha racteristic epistle which accompanies his munificent sub scription :—" Fearful I may suddenly slip my wind,' and in the hurry of departure forget to order my bankers to set aside 1001. for the Naval School, which has always hid my fervult prayers for its success, I herewith send the neces• nary document." THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 12, 1839. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. Lord MELBOURNE said he had not the least objection to do so. The Duke of WELLINGTON said he - had heard of this circular, and t*o or three thingi bixd occurred to him upon it. *, He' vvislicd*to 'know whether or not the Noble ViSconiat -badiirlYerted to the powers given to Magistrates by the Acts of the late King, requiring them to swear in special constables, and whether those were the persons who it was the intention of Govern ment should be the persons armed under the. directions given by the Secretary of State. That was a point which he wished to understand. In the next place, under the Act for regulating Cor porations, which passed in the year 1835, which was greatly discussed in their Lordships' House at the time, there was a power given to those Corporations to form a police, and to enable them to raise funds to maintain thatlpolice ; and indeed an Act of Parliament, to which he had referred, in the reign of Geo. 11., enabled towns to raise a watch-ward. Were those the people, he wished to ask, who were to be armed in consequence of this cir cular ? Those were points which ought to have been adverted to when considering this measure. Now sup pose that the Mayor of Bath took it into his head to arm, in the present year, a body of men of one political opinion, and that next year another Mayor, of another opinion and of a different party, armed another body, what would be the consequences ? These were points worthy of consideration. He should be glad, therefore, if the Noble Viscount would allow the House to see the papers and circulars connected with the subject, and under the instructions contained in which, the Lords Lieutenant of Counties, Sheriffs and Mayors, acted in arming the inhabitants of their districts. Viscount MELBOURNE had no objection to lay upon the table the instructions that had been issued to the Lieutenants and Sheriffs of counties on the subject. It certainly was not the intention of the Government that the parties to whom allusion had been made should be armed. At the same time he thought it was in the power of the Magistrates, or the Town Councils to arm the inhabitants in certain cases.--(Hear, hear, from the Duke of Wellington.) Unquestionably the in tention of his Noble Friend the Secretary of State was to permit the formation of armed associations for the protectio n of life and property, and that permission had been given to them subject to the centroul and under the instructions of the Deputy Lieu- 1 tenants and Magistrates. The Duke of WELLINGTON said if the Mayors of boroughs authorised the arming of any bodies of men, they were responsible, not to the Corporation, but to the law, for their acts.--( Hear, hear.) In the present case, however, no party was responsible ; the present Mayor of Bath might be a Chartist, and arm 1,000 men, and in Nov. next another Mayor of different politics might place 1,000 men of a different political opinion under arms. Such a state of things could only be productive of the greatest mischief to life and property. Lord ELLENBOROUGH believed some difficulty had arisen in consequence of the contradictory instruc tions given and the want of precision in thc. , two circu lars issued by the Noble Lord the Secretary of State for the Hoine Department. As he understood it, arms were given to certain associations for the protection of life and property, but the Secretary of State issued another circular to the Magistrates, by which they were di rected to put in force the law against any parties found training for martial purposes. Under the first circular, the parties having obtained arms wished to acquire some degree of military instruction, but the moment they commenced training for that purpose they wore taken up by the Magistrates under the second circular. THE BEER BILL. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY brought up the Report of the Committee on the Beer Bill. • Lord BROUGHAM said that as a Noble Friend of his who took a deep interest in the Bill was now absent from town, and would be so for some days, unwillingly he was compelled to postpone the further proceedings on the Bill until Monday next. Lord ELLEN BO ROUG H said though he doubted the expediency of the House passing such a Bill, still it was important to know whether it would really be precsed during the present session. He confessed it was very unlikely that it would be postponed, still as that seemed to be the order of the day with all important measures, such a thing might happen. Lord BROUGHAM could positively assure the Noble Lord that although he sat in that neighbourhood he had not contracted any of what he m i g h t call the dilatory diap e thi s an d t h ere was no t the re motest chance o f hi s Bill being postponed unt il the Greek Kalends, or, wh at was now the same , the year 1842_ (Laughter) —or bey on d M on d a y next. Lord MEL BOURNE thought it wou ld b e as well to suspend the Standing Orders of the House, in order to pass the Bill. Considering the immense amount of property affected by the Bill, they were pursuing a very hasty course. Lord BROUGHAM said it had been proved that parish paupers were the keepers of these houses —that they very seldom had more than a table and chair, with a broken jug or two. 1 t was ridiculous to talk of the immerse property involved in the consideratio n 1 of the Bill. Considering that they had not had any Royal HOUSE OF LORDS, JuNzt 11. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack at Five o'Clock. The Marquis of BRISTOL presented a retition praying for the adoption of a penny postage. Lord LOVELACE presented a petition from tl.e beer-house-keepers of Liverpool, praying for the same privileges as those possessed by licensed victuallers. The Noble Lord presented petitions from the city of Exeter and various other places in the county of Devon, praying for the adoption of a penny postage. Lord CAM PERDOWN presented a petition from Auchterarder praying for the adoption of a penny postage. Earl STANHOPE presented a petition from Brad ford to the same effect. Lord PORTMAN presented a petition to the same effect. Lord WROTESLEY presented a petition from a place iu Suffolk, praying that all business might be sus pended on the Sabbath day. The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented peti tions from the counties of Argyle and Forfar in favour of Church extension in Scotland ; also several petitions praying for a penny postage. The Bishop of EXETER presented petitions from several places in the county of Durham, against the Government plan of national education. ARMING. The Duke of BEAUFORT wished to put a ques tion to the Noble Viscount opposite with regard to a circular letter which had been issued by the Secretary of State for the Home Department to Lords Lieute nant of certain counties, tendering, as it was supposed, arms to certain Assoeiations.—(Hear, hear.) It ap peared to him (the Noble Duke) that that letter must have been very badly understood by some, and very in differently understood by others. Most of their Lord ships would have seen a letter from an Association, calling themselves the Salford Radical Association, asking to be furnished with 12,000 stand of arms. An application of a somewhat similar nature had been made from Bath. Now he could not conceive any thing more pregnant with danger than that a measure of this sort should be carried out to its full extent. Large bodies of men had enrolled themselves in associations, and if they were to be armed the consequences would be the most dangerous. He never could think that that could have been the intention of Government, and if it was not, the intention had not been well understood.— (Hear, licar.) He (the Noble Duke) had received various communications from persons in parts that he was connected with, wishing to form themselves into associations for the purpose of being armed. And the answer that he had invariably given to them was to advise them to do no such thing. If such men were to be armed without being under any military control, he could con ceive nothing they could do but mischief. He objected to those associations altogether, although there was a Reform Association, than which he believed nothing could be more harmless. However, he wished to know from the Noble Viscount what the intentions of the Go vernment were in the issuing of the circular to which he alluded. Lord MELBOURNE entirely agreed with the general principles laid down by the Noble Duke. He quite agreed that it was not expedient that any body of the people should be armed, nor that should they be armed except under the controul of an Officer bearing her Majesty's commission. —(Hear.) That was his opinion, but there might be a case where the danger was so great that it might be necessary in some degree to depart from that principle ; and that he ap prehended had been the occasion of the circular issued by his Noble Friend, the Secretary of State ; such as in consequence of men arming—in consequence of menacing appearances in many parts of the country—appearances which, as upon many other occasions, seemed to be ex tremely menacing, but which, as soon as they ap proached the point of danger, had, as they had done before, dissipated and sunk into nothing. But, in consequence of particular apprehensions in certain counties, he believed his Noble Friend had issued a circular to the Lords Lieutenant of those parts where danger seemed to be the most imminent, stating that if they, in their discretion, and upon th e i r res p ons ibility, would state th a t an y body of men was formed to pre serve the public peace, he should have no objection to furnish them with arms, leaving it entirely to the Lords Lieutenant to decide what bodies should be furnished with arms, and they coming to that decision upon their own responsibility. He (the Noble Viseount) trusted it would not be necessary to act on that circufar to any greater extent than had already been, and he quite agreed that it was not in general quite an eligible mode of proceeding, nor one that ought to be extended or acted upon except in cases of inamineEt danger. The Duke of WELLINGTON wished to know from the Noble Viscount if he had any objections to lay the circular before the House, with the names of the Lords Lieutenant to whom it was addressed, and any other instructions that had been issued at the same time. Message urging Parliament to its consideration, he thought there was a chance of its being fully considered cn Monday.—(Laughter.) The Marquis of WESTMINSTER wished to ex press his dissent from the statement of his Noble and Learned Friend as to the poverty of the beer-house keepers. On the contrary, he knew that there was often capital to the amount of 3004 invested in this trade. Lcrd BROUGHAM observed that, then the Noble Marquis's beer-houses must bed a superior description. —(A laugh.) Earl STA NHOPE rose with great eagerness, and asked if the Noble and Learned Lord would have any objection to refer the Bill to a Select Committee to hear evidence, before he proceeded to confiscate a large amount of property, and ruin numbers of unoffending individuals ? Lord BROUGHAM said he was surprised that the Noble Earl should have allowed the proper time for hearing evidence, the second reading, to pass by : and afterwards see the Bill referred to a Select Committee, when he might have moved an enlargement of that Committee's powers to enable them to hear evidence ; refuse to attend that Committee, and then come down upon the third reading, and ask that, evidence be heard. Surely this was the " dilatory" system with a vengeance.---( Hear, and a laughter.) Earl STAN HOPE went on to complain of some statements of the Poor-law Commissioners, ,which he chraracterised as false and incredible. Part of tho L-e statements were, that the highways of the country were in such a state, that no person could pass them with safety. And this was the ground of their application for a rural police. After a few observations from the Marquis of WESTMINSTER, Lord BROUGHAM said that the statements of the Noble Lord with respect to the Report cast a stigma upon a deserving individual which he did not merit. He believed that that individual was as incapable of putting his name improperly to documents as any Member of their Lordships' House.—(Cheers.) The fact was, the Noble Lord had been led away by a name. Lord ELLENBOROUGH thought that the Noble and Learned Lord, if he had read the Report, would have been of opinion, as all that had read it had been, that it contained a great quantity of valuable material. The great objection he had to the Report was its intolerable length. It was too vo luminous to be read generally by the public. Earl STANHOPE said, that he had not pre tended to give an opinion upon the Report without reading it, but having read it he would venture to assert that it stated that which was false. The Earl of RADNOR thought it was too much for the Noble Lord to designate a public document as he had done. • Lord FALMOUTH begged their Lordships to re collect that the present system was only eight or nine years old, for the Bill had passed in the year 1830. He had then opposed it ; and a Noble Duke who had also opposed it with great power, had stated what the results would be, as they had actually occurred. He believed the publicans had been sacrificed, and that great injustice had been perpetrated on them, while their arguments had been little attended to. He believed in his conscience that much of the mischief that now existed throughout the country, and much of the bad spirit that prevailed originated in the Beer shops. He hoped another Session would not be al lowed to pass without some remedy being applied to that monstrous evil. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER made a remark which did not reach the gallery. The Earl of MAL MES BURY was certain that Col. Rowan would not attach his name to any document which he did not believe to ,be perfectly correct. He was a distinguished officer in her Majesty's service, and had filled one of the most important offices in the me tropolis, with the greatest credit to himself.--(Hear.) Lord STANHOPE had no doubt that the reports were made from facts stated, but he again repeated that the inferences were notoriously false. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE believed three persons more eminently qualified could not have been found than the three individuals selected, from their known talents, their acquaintance with facts, and their unquestionable integrity, to make such a Re port us would bespeak the confidence of Par liament. He bed never seen a Report more especially and particularly bottomed upon inquiries than the present. This was a testimony which it was the duty of the Government to bear to the individuals em ployed, who had discharged their duty in a way satisfac • torily to the Government, and also, he believed, satisfac torily to the public. The amendments were then agreed to, and Monday next was fixed for the third reading of the Bill. Lord BROUGH AM fixed Friday next for the se cond reading of his Education Bill. The House adjourned at a Quarter past Six until Thursday. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Jumm 11. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. • CARLOW ELECTION. Mr. GROTE, the Chairman of the Carlow Election Committee, appeared at the Bar, and reported that the Committee had . met that morning at eleven o'clock, and that they had received a letter from Mr. Protheroe, one of the Members of the Committee, informing them that in consequence of an accident he could not attend, where upon the Committee adjourned till to-morrow. A gentleman named Johnson, the medical attendant upon Mr. Protheroe, was called to the bar, and stated, in answer to questions by the SPEAKER, that Mr. Protheroe had that morning ruptured certain muscles of the leg in running up stairs, and was by the accident incapacitated from attending the Committee. On the motion of Mr. GROTE, Mr. Protheroe was excused from further attendance on the Committee ; and the Committee were empowered to sit without him. COODE'S DIVORCE BILL. The Rouge then went into Committee en this Bill, in support of which Mr. Sergeant Merewether appeared. No Ccunsel appeared on the other side. Witnesses were examined in proof of the marriage and the adultery. Counsel and witnesses were then ordered to withdraw, and the Bill was reported. • CARLETON'S DIVORCE BILL. The House then went into Committee on Carleton s Divorce Bill. Mr. Austin appeared for Mr. Carleton, and stated the case to the House, and then proceeded to call witnesses, who proved the marriage of the parties and the adultery, together with the proceedings in the Ecclesiastical Courts. The witnesses having given their evidence in a very inaudible manner, Mr. D. W. HARVEY wished to know in what cha racter they sat there in such cases? If they sat as Judges, he must protest against giving any decision, as he had not heard one syllable of the evidence which had been given.---(Hear, hear.) The preamble was then declared to be proved, and the House resumed. The Report on the Manchester and Birmingham Rail way was brought up. The Report of the Committee on the Preston and Wyre Railway was brought up. Sir E. WI umoT moved the further consideration of the Report of the Committee on the Birmingham Canal Bill. On a message from the House of Lords to that effect, leave was given to Sir Wm. Somerville to give evidence hefore the Lords' Committee on the state of crime in Ireland. Mr. BARNARD moved the revival of the Deptford Pier Committee. Mr. GREENE resisted the application. After a few words from Mr. WILSON PATTEN the motion was withdrawn., On the motion of Mr. WILSON PATTEN Hodson's Estate Bill was read a second time. Lord G. SOMERSET brought in the Newport Dock Bill, which was read a first time. On the motion of Sir J. Y. BULLER the South, Melton Roads' Bill was read a third time and passed. Mr. D. W. HARVEY in presenting a petition against the Blackwell Extension Railway Bill, wished to call the attention of the House to it, with a view to the better dealing: with it. The petition was signed by upwards or 400 persons, describing them selves as owners and occupiers of houses and property in the immediate vicinity of the Blackwell Extension Railway, in which all the facts elicited before the Committee were argued with great force and effect. This was a petititon against a private Bill, and it was important that the House should be made acquainted with its contents before Tuesday next, when the Report was to be brought up. Unless some such course was taken, much of the time of the House would be wasted on that occasion. He therefore proposed to refer it to the Committee on Petitions, with the sug gestion that it might be printed ; and would, on the bringing up of the Report, call the attention of the House to the petition. After a few words from Sir T. FREEMANTLE, Mr. D. W. HARVEY said that he intended mov ing to the same effect as the prayer of the petition, that the Bill be not read a third time ; and his only object in having the petition printed, was that it contained an elaborate statement of many grave objections against the Bill. And knowing how very difficult it was to arrest the attention oi the House to matters con nected with private Bills, should move that this petition be printed, in order that every Member might havei n his possession the statements on which the opposition was founded. He concluded by moving that the peti tion be printed. Mr. C. WYNN said that he was of opinion that the rule of the House ought to be strictly adhered to, and that, if it were printed, it should be sa at the expense of the petitioners. Mr. D. W. HARVEY had no objection whatever to pursuing such a course. It was then ordered that the petition be printed at the expense of the r , etitionera. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. The SPEAKER said that he should to-morrow take the Chair at three o'clock, in order to facilitate the pre sentation of public petitions HAYTIAN COFFEE. Mr. THORNELY would postpone the motion o which he had given notice, if he were given to under• stand that any negociations were pending on the subject COLONIAL AFFAIRS: Mr. WARD would postpone the motion of which he bad given notice to this day fortnight, in consequence of the motion of his Hon. Friend the Member for London. INVESTIGATION INTO CHARITIES. Mr. WARBURTON would ask the Hon. Member for Southwark whether he would postpone the motion of which he had given notice, so as to give way to his Hon. Friend the Member for London. Mr. D. W. HARVEY did not consider that the question as to whether the Ballot was to be an open question was of more importance than an investigation into charities, but he considered that the excitement would be so great that it would be impossible to get the queAion considered, and on that ground he would give way. Mr. 'WILLIAMS on the part of the Hon. Mem ber for Kilkenny (Mr. Hume) postponed the motion on the subject of the B ink of England till this day week. Mr. VILLIERS postponed his motion on the sub ject of the Timber Duties till July 2. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice that be should, on an early day, move for leave to bring in a Bill to Amend an Act for the better administration of justice in the Court of Exchequer in Scotland. ROMAN CATHOLICS. Mr. O'CONNELL postponed till this day fortnight the motion of which he had given notice for leave to bring in a Bill to enable Roman Catholics to hold the office of Lord Chancellor, and certain offices in the Ecclesiastical Courts in Ireland. The Honourable and Learned Member stated it wou ld t h en b e hi s d uty to explain fully the grounds on which he founded his motion, in consequence of some insane remarks that had been made elsewhere.—(Laughter.) KING'S PRINTER (SCOTLAND). Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, it would be ex tremely ageeeable to the feelings of the people of Scotland, if the Noble Lord opposite would give an out line of the precautionary measure he intended to intro duce relative to the expiration of the Patent of King's Printer in Scotland. Lord J. RUSSELL said it was not intended to give to individuals, or to any Corporation, the exclusive right of printing Bibles, with a view to a profit, which might enhance the price of copies of the Scriptures. The Right Hon. Gentleman was fully justified in asking him the nature of the precaution it was proposed to adopt. What was proposed was that the Crown should by charter incorporate certain limited number of persons, say five persons, to whom should be granted the exclu sive right of printing. That Board would consist of the Moderator of the General Assembly, three Divines of the Church of Scotland, and two laymen, but mem bers of the Church of Scotland.—(Hear, hear.) And if the Board should consist of any larger number of members, it would be constituted in the same manner. That Board would have the exclusive right of print ing Bibles under certain conditions. One would be that they should print only the authorised version of the Scriptures—another, that they should have the power of giving the " imprimatur" to any publisher, upon condition that he should give security to print only the text as the authorised version. With those li mitations it was proposed that there should be no pre ference given to any publisher. That Board would have the same power which the Crown now possessed ; so that in case any person should print a mutilated or unauthorised version of the Scriptures, they would at once he stopped by an injunction. He had consulted with the Lord Advocate and the Attorney-General, and they were of opinion that there was no necessity whatever for legislating upon the subject, as the Crown had the power at once to stop any such proceedings. To-morrow, or next day he would give in writing the heads of the plan as it was requisite it should be known. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said nothing could be more satisfactory than the explanation of the Noble Lord. When the Noble Lord gave the promised plan in writ ing, he would communicate with the authorities in Scot land, and see whether it was satisfactory. Mr. WILLIAMS complained that he presented a petition from Mr. Wells, respecting the finances of the country, which was ordered to be printed—it had not been so, and it appeared on the Journals of the House as if it had been ordered to lie on the table. Sir G. CLERK said lie did not see why that House should be charged with the printing of pam phlets.—(Hear, hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL said, in his opinion, the writer wished to put a speech in the form of a petition, and that such a course ought not to be sanctioned by the House.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. WILLIAMS said the petition contained much useful matter regarding the finances of the country. Mr. P. THOIVISthst said that was just the reason why the petition could not be printed by that House, because it was a mere general discussion upon financial policy.—( Hear, hear.) An HONOURABLE MEMBER of the Printing Com mittee, said the Committee were of opinion that the petition should not be printed, because it went into matters of general policy.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. FIELDEN said the Hon. Member for Co ventry having given notice that lie would bring the subject of th petition forward, had a right to have it printed. The SPEAKER • said undoubtedly. The House had ordered the petition to be printed. Sir G. CLERK immediately moved that the order be rescinded,—(Hear, hear.) Mr. WAKLEY said the Hon. Baronet wished to prevent any body from reading the petition ; perhaps, because it contained matter which would be objection able to the House. The Members of that House were too insensible to the effect necessarily produced upon the public mind, by the manner in which they received the petitions of the people. The restrictions which were imposed in that House upon the presentation of petitions were such, that the other House was really the popular House in this respect—it was in the other House only that petitions might properly he discussed. In this House, if a Member wished to read a para graph or so of a petition, there was such an outcry against him that he soon became confused, and unable even to state the substance. The regulations as to petitions must be revised.—(Hear, hear.) Petitions were, in fact, only " bagged" by the clerk—(a laug'a)— no living being ever heard of them again.—(oll, oh.) To be sure, they were referred to in Committee, which prevented any body else from seeing them—(No, no) —the Committee might determine whether they should be printed, but was that House to be governed by a Committee?—(Hear.) If Members were not allowed to state distinctly the allegations of every petition, that House would, if possible, sink lower in the estimation of the public.—( Hear, and a laugh.) Colonel CONOLLY said the Hon. Member for Finsbury was quite mistaken as to the Printing Com mittee. Petitions could be referred to with the greatest ease, and every facility was given for the purpose. Mr. AGLIONBY thought that notice should be given of the order being rescinded.—(Hear, hear.) If not, he should be able he hoped, to show the House that the petition ought to be printed. Sir G. CLERK said, the order for printing the peti tion had been obtained on Friday night, when it would be recollected the House was deserted for several hours previous to the Counsel being heard against the Jamaica Bill. Certainly had the attention of th.. HouSe been called to the petition, it would never have been ordered to be printed.— , Hear, hear.) Mr. FRESHFIELD said it was not fair in the Hon. Member for Finsbury to represent that. petitions were not attended to in that House, Twenty-seven Reports, of very considerable bulk, had been presented by the Petition Committee—and to punish the Hon. Alember he should like to make him read them all.—(Laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said a copy of the paper had been sent to him ; he could not think it a fit document to be printed by that House. The House divided, when there appeared— For discharging the Order Against it _ •.. 33 `Majority for discharging the Order ... --48 Mr. WILLIAMS hoped that he might be permitted o withdraw the petition. SCOTCH FACTORIES. Lord ASHLEY wished to ask the Hon. Member for Finsbury whether he intended to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice relative to the case of three Scotch manufacturers this evening. Mr. WAKLEY bad come down to the House that evening with the full intention of bringing it forward ; but be understood that the Government intended to oppose it, and he did not think he could bring it forward on this occasion with the slightest chance of success. The lion.Alernber for Penryn, who had precedence ofhim, would occupy the attention of the House for three or four hours, and as he did not think he stood the slightest chance of being able to carry it, without the assistance of the Noble Lord opposite and his friends, he would postpone it to this day three weeks, when he should certainly bring it forward, and press the House to a division. Mr. FOX MAULE would protest against the course pursued by the Hon. Gentleman. Here was a motion conveying an attack upon the character of a public ser vant, and which was put off from day to day, for this was not the first postponement which had taken place — this was not only unfair to the individual whose character was attacked by it, but it was also unfair to those who had that character to defend, and who had other most important business to attend to. lie had come down that night fully prepared to meet the motion. Mr. WAKLEY would beg to state that he had not postponed it, he had coma down with a fixed determi nation to bring it on. He had lost no opportunity o f bringing forward this subject ; but Ile bad no prospect of success if he brought it forward to-night. Th e Government had actually whipped up opposshon to hi s motion. lie begged to state that there was no attack on the character of Mr. Stuart, he was not refer:cd to in the terms of the motion ; at the same time, bad he done so, he shoul d haTo done no more tha n Mr. Stuart had done by three helpless men ; at the same time, he V_EN IN G EDITION. COURT OF EXCHEQUER. Mt. PRESHFIELD then rose to move for certiti: returns relative to th e C our t o f E xc h equer, of w hi c h h had given notice, and was proceeding, when b e An nom. M EMBER move d that the House counted, and the re b e i ng only 31 Members presen t ) tbe House adjourned at Half-past Seven o'Clock. " George Evcs, Esq." Another meeting of the parishioners will shortly be hell, we understand, to take thi s re pl y i nto cons ideration. --- I Vitulsor Express. should not spare Mr. Stuart when he brought forward his naotior, an -1 I , e thought he should show that Stuart's conduct was deserving of censure rather than of approbation.---( Hear, hear, from Lord A.sliley.) TURNPIKE TRUSTS. Mr. MACKINNON rose to move for leave to bring in a Bill to alter and amend the Laws regarding Turn pike Trusts, and to allow Unions of the same. Ile thought this was a subject that should have been taken up by the Government, and he trusted that he should satisfy the House that this Bill which he brought for ward as Chairman of a Committee which had sat on that subject, was deserving of its approbation. The subject was one of very great importance. The debts of the Turnpike Trusts now amounted to upwards of nine millions, and were hourly increasing. One of the chief causes of this was, that when Turnpike Tres' tots found themselve s una bl e to pay the interest due to the creditors, they gave bonds converting the interest into principal, and thus increasing their debts at nom- pound interest. The increase of Railroads was a nother great cause conducarg to this effect, and an other, was the p ower w hi c h any cred i tor possessed ° I taking possession of the tolls, and dividing them amo ng th e cre di tors of the Trust, as be might think proper. The abolition of Statute Labour also was a loss to the trust of 200,000/. per annum. An attempt had b een ma d e to remedy these evils by 1 1 Hon. Friend, t h e U n d er S ecretary opposite, who had brought in a Bill f or conso lid at i ng the Turnpike Trusts: and placing them under the superintendence of a Board in London, which, however, he had not been able t° carry into effect, in consequence of the opposition which the country gentlemen had raised to the system of c elP tralisation. In his Bill he proposed not to consolidate trusts but to form them into unions under superint en : dents, who should be appointed by the trustees ; but it would be necessary to have a Central Board in London to arrange the making of the unions. He proposed also to arrest the traffic which went by railroads by enabling the trustees to place their gates on the cross roads leading to the termi n i o f ra il roa d s, an d t h us o aten the traffic,an apply the sums so raised to the repair of the roads. Ifsome measure of this sort were not adopted the debts would increase, the creditors would lose the 5 05 they had advanced, and the lines of communication be' tween populous towns would be entirely destroyed. If a union was made and money was borrowed on the new line that led to the termini of the railroad, it wa s possible that th e y wou ld b e ena b led to pay off not only the interest but the principal. The Hon. Member concluded by moving for leave to bring in the Bill. Captain BOLDERO seconded the motion. Mr. FOX MAULE did not rise for the p ur pose of throwing any difficulty in the way of the Hon. Membe r in bringing in his Bill. He thought that for the pains he had taken upon this subject he was entitled tf the thanks o f th e H ouse, b ut he doubted very much whether those pains would be repaid by the measure he now proposed to introduce. He thought the Commis; sion that had recently been appointed would have 5°, 1 ,i ficient duty t o per f orm, as he very much feared the Bill of the Hon. Member would meet with the same fate is the one he (Mr. F. Mettle) had introduced sometiale, since. He cou ld not d eny that the p resen t state ° things ought t o b e reme di e d , b ut he doubted very rouell ' , whether th e H on . Al em b er ' s Bill would have that egg' . He was in hopes that by the next year the Commiss i°° would be enabled to make such a Report as would end' ble the Government to bring forward some specific ine B. sure on the subject. had Colonel WOOD was g l a d that the Government , issued a Com m i ss i on on th i s subject, for he thought t'oll, less the question was taken up by the Government , ' t difficulty th a t surroun d e d i t would never be got r'el After a few observations from the ATTORN 6 GENERAL, leave was given to bring in the Bill. ANTI-CORN-LAW LECTURES' (From the Glasgow Argus.) vi) Mr. Pault on d e li vere d hi s secon d lecture (in Misr • 0 on the bread-t ax , t o a numerous and attentive audience,it the John -stre e t R e li e f Ch urch, yesterday evening (1 is e Wednesday). This evening he lectures again - in the 331% place. On the even i ngs o f Monday and Tuesday,'he lecture in th e C owca dd ens di str i ct, in the Churc h o f 1 I Rev. Mr. Eadi e . Th e arrangements for the lectu res Anderston and Calton will be announced hereafter. , Arrangements h ave b een ma d e by the Anti-Corn -a t e Committee in G reenoc k, f or M r. Pau addrusaing.tui inhabitants on this all important question, on the evenu t g e of Friday (to-mo r r ow ) an d S atur d ay. Preparat i ons ate making in Paisley for his lecturing there, on, we belie/ the evenings of Mond a y and Tuesday se'nnight (the 17t and 18th instant). In our next and subsequent number!, we will continue these announcements of Mr. Paultoll° motions in this district. With a view to his ulterior movements in Scotland, it II at present in contemplation to select Dundee, Aberdeen', Edinburgh, and Dumf r i es as bead- quarters of systems 01 lectures, such as we a r e n ow carrying into execution in and around Glasgow. Communieationshave.already beet' opened with friends of free trade in theieinartersio whom the arrangement of details in each district must be left. When Mr. Paulton has finished in this district, it is at present proposed that he should proceed to Dundee taking Stirling and Perth in the way. When he has, finished the work cut out for him by our Anti-Coro.law friends of Dundee in that neighbourhood, he will go 0 0 to Aberdeen. (There is a fine field, yet totally untilled , stretching from that northern metropolis northward alon g the shores of the Moray Firth.) F rom Ab er d een he $ O , return southward to Edinbur g h, a n d, a ft er com pl e ting tbab circuit, will repair to Dumfries, whence he re-ente rs England. This first missionary incu7sion of the Lear:: into Scotland must necessarily leave many important iol d , untouched ; hut other lecturers will, it i s to b e 10 ;t h succeed Mr. Paulton, an d even h e may f avour u s v b another visit. The work is only begun. Mr. Sluarman, Secretary to th e A n ti-C orn .l a w Lac tte, arrived here yesterday. This lecturing process is the fairest method of bringil an important question before the public. It will, w e tru a s s : henceforth be the mode of agitating all great questst administrative, legislative, and constitutional. I n a Ur. cause it is irresistible. We claim a candid hearing for ;. Paulton from Conservative, Whig, Radical, and Chat tl i st. e , The question upon which be addresses them is one of gislative Reform, in which men of the most different c ° stitutional opinions may concur. he HULL POST -OFFICE ALTERATIONS.—'-:r.ho following alterations in the arrival and departure of th e mails at and from this town has been announced t 'Th to public :—" On and after the 19th June, the first 1 108 ;' York will be dispatched from this office at one o'e.c c On the P. M., and the second at twelve at midnight. 21st, the first mail from York will reach Hull at u l`i , be minutes past eleven o'clock, A.m., as 'at present. second at forty minutes past eight, P.M. On the il e a a second b ag f or L on d on w i ll be made up and dispat'edo-0 via York, a t one , P. rd., and a se con d b ag f ro m Lc° 0 - 0 will be received at fifteen minutes past eleven the 21st." These changes are consequ en t on the open. ing of sev era l o f t h e ra i lways. The mail for Lon.,":" J , is forwarded via York, by the York and North land and Leeds and Selby Railways to Leeds, then toll d mitted by coach to Manchester, thence by the G ean to Junction and the London and Birmingham RailwaY s London. By thi s arrangement considerable advantag d will be gained. There will he two mails daily to an from Lond o n. L etters an d the Yarning Papers bY,tpro new mail will b e d e li vere d i n H u l l at noon , and let — a sent by the one o ' c l oc k ma il f or L on d on will be delivere in the metrop lis on the evening of the following tisY l de r livered Evenin g Pap ers an d letters from London will b e livered here the f o ll ow i ng a f ternoon as hefore. Grote, facilities will al so b e a ff or d e d t h ere b y fir come-pow:lac with Leeds, Manchester, Li verpoo l, I re l an d , an d t h e North' —Bull Advertiser. • OPENING OF THE EASTERN COUNTIgSe RAILWA the course of a w ee k or t en days h genius of steam, with all its attendant cogs and tly-wl' ee d 4 and cylinders, will b e i n f u ll operat i on between R o mford and the Metropolis, whisking the gcod people t) and fr r/ i and pouring th e w h eat an d t h e oxen, aye and t h e ca lves a Essex, into the lap o f L on d on. T he line, i n fact, will be opened to the public generally on the 20th instant from the temporary station in Devonshire.street, near the iilc a end Turnpike, to Barrack-lane, Ro m f or d ; bur the formal opening will t a k e pl ace on t h e 18. h, when the Director, accompanied by m an y o f t h e no bi it and and a large party of the friend s o f th e undertaking, will give it wha t we in the country call a hansel." Romf or d i s e xpected to be busy and gay on th e occasion. Trio Dukes of Cambri d g e, Sussex, Northumberland, and others of high title, we are told, will be p resen t ; a cold eAlation will be provided f or 400 persons in the Ba r r ac k- groun d, an d 21 pieces of ord nance are to announce th e fi rs t s tep in this revolution or Essex travelling.—ln the mean time everything is pre paring to get the line in order for the day. The public arc now turned u p on the road over the bridge at the eighth mile-stone, and the temporary r oad is partly cu t through, between which point and Romford several engines are at work, and on Saturday last many individuals took a trip along this portion of the line on the new system. - "" Essex Herald. THE REV. MR. STURMER AND THE P. 3-- RISHIONERS OF HAYES.—The . Chairman o f t h e l ate meet ing at Hayes bas at length received a reply to the mem°' which was addresspeadribito,hneemr meeting to the ArchbishoP orifalCanterhury, and front it there appears no probability thadi any measures can be adopted to allay the excitement an 11-feeling which have SO long prevailed between the R ev ' reply l . y S o t f u t r h m e e rAarcnhdbliisi Archbishop op: ..... s. The following io the " Sir—l have considered again and l a i gan theern emoroli which, as c h a i rman of a meeting at Hayes, you transmitt.e, Lambet,N i lay3,l3. 39 % to me som e wee k s ag ; o, and which was signed by many 'o f habitants o f t h e p Irish and lam under the necessity stating that, in the allegations therein contained, I can not discover any l egal grounds whatever for instituting .Pro ceedings with a v i ew t o th e i n fli ct i on o f ecc l es i as tical c e .. Jr! , sure on th e R ev . M r . Sturmer, and that such is the or nion o f t h e high authoritias whom I have consulted on subject. remain, Sir, your obedient and humble servant► " W. CANTVAg _ _ i