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used as any man to the Bi'-'l-11, but he thought it would b e better, in the present .Seesion, to discuss the principle under the hope of convineittg the instigators 'of the Bill, that their views were erreetkous, than put it off till the next. He did not press for any 'particular day, but he thought the adoption 'f that course would be best. ,'".. 7. THOMSON observed that the very course P a mted out by the Right Hon. Baronet was the one he had proposed to the Hon. Member for his adoption. Mr. FORBES objected to the adoption of that course. After a few words from Mr. WA KLEY— The SPEAKER put the question—" That I do now leave the Chair" —which was agreed to. After he had quitted the Chair— Mr. JOHN MAXWELL rose to persevere in his Bill, amidst load cries of " C..;rder, order." LIGHTHOUSES. Without f,,.. then discussion th e House resolved itself into a C om :mittee on the Lightho uses Bill, Mr. Demo' in the Ch p ! de 1 93 uses 1 to 40 were agreed to. Jpon claus e 41 being proposed, Mr. WARBURTON objected to it. He thought that 'the Ballast Board of Dublin, the Commissioners of Northern Lights, and the Trinity-house, ought all to be placed under the control of a central board, that board being under the superintendence of the Admiralty. His second objection Was, that the Trinity-board was to have a control over the other hoards as to the mode in which the lights were to Je used. He remarked that the members of the Trinity hoard received 6,000/. a year in sa l ar i es , while * t oe members of th e B allast -board in Dublin and the C - ,,mmissioners of the Northern Lights acted gratuitously, He did n o t k now why th e mem b ers of one board wee: 6) be pa 300/. a yea each, white the o th ers did not receive or seek id for any pay ment fol. their services. It was his opinion that the past condo c t of the Trinit , •:house Board w as no t suc h as to ,en title it to the exercise of the increased powers proposed to cc.: conferred on it by this Bill. He objected also to the tonstitution of the board, in which there were no scientific mei ' , no naval captains—that it was a board self-elected, and consisting exclusively of the captains of merchant H vessels after the e propoieed as an amen d ment, t h at a ll the words Pur pose of i n word " that be struck out o f th e clause, for the 4 .rodu c i ng an amendment of his own. TrMinir. pr JULETT THOMSON observed, that the ty, : house Board en j oye d. b y c h arter power over the etleasts of E ng l an d , and certain portions of Ireland, and his 4- ikn. Friend proposed to take advantage of this Bill to iteprive them of those powers. In 1822, a Committee of that House not only recommended that the Trinity-house should be continued, but that its powers should be ex- , tended. The Committee came to a resolution, recom tuending that this Board should have the control of all the Public lighthouses in the kingdom. This was more t h an was proposed t o b e d one by this Bill. Th e sa l ar i es re ceived by the Board were objected to ; but his Hon. Friend ought to recollect that the Board had other duties,to dis charge beyond the superintendence of lighthouses—they were also Conservators of the River Thames. They had ProPerty . by chart er — t h ey were a Corporation, and it Rivi n tould not be propos e d t o ta k e away their property without g them compensation. It was to be observed that no 'saving could be effected if the change proposed by his Hon. Friend were adop te d. H e certainly did not favour self elected bodie s ; b ut of this he was bound to say, that there was less danger in leaving the nomination in their hands than if that nomination were placed in the hands of others. It via; the body in his opinion,that it was o f a d vantage to h ave composed of merchant captains ; it would enable them t o h ave a better class of such men, by holding o ut to them the chanc e of filling such situations. He felt the ne essity of improving that class, for when he was engaged in commercial matters, he felt that the captains of mer chant vessels here were an inferior grade to those of the United States. The, an Member complained that the "Irinity-house had refused to put up a light-house in the Isle of Man, but that the Scotch Commissioners had put 'IP two. The question in his opinion was, not how many light-houses were erected, but whether the coast was duly aki, sufficiently lighted. .., Mr. C. FE RGUSSON said that the Board of Northern 4 4ights was a self-elected body, consisting chiefly of lawyers . 9„f Edinbur g h, w h o k new nothing of the matter ; though he must admit that, as far as he could judge, .they acted in at di sinterested manner. The Honourable Member then i nstanc e d th e case o f t h e coast of Kirkcudbright, upon Which sixty-six ship s h a d b een 'l ost w i t hi n t hi rty years for want of a light-h ouse , w hi c h wou ld on l y cost 1,2001. to e 2 t e h t ' e I t h il e i. Hon. Member approved of the general principle Iel,, I : t : G. P. YOUNG confirmed the statement made by T r 1 ight H onourable the President of the Board of nit;',..theolith reference to the good management of the Tri on the h .4 He objected to any proposal for interference r' a r.• of the Crown, recollecting under what circum stances four r , which he iig_iets had been renewed some years ago, to though t %yo u" , hot trust himself_ to refer further. He eoan u r, - Sin," of this i . :zee would derive great benefit from the pas °After ". Is IML "" rely words from Sir E. CODRINGTON, u r. .„ t" ' ROBINSONn spoke in support of the Bill, and de .eed d the Trinity-board. :0 : 4. R. PEEL sa id t h e Committee, consisting of forty c-; e a Members, only seven of whom were what were called ase rvative, had reporte d unanimously in favour of the !present constitution of the Trinity-board. He rested his t s aPport o f the Trinity-board upon this ground, that upon he whole it was the best that could be adopted for the. Pur r'se. Th e Ri g h t H on. Baronet then referred to the ienee of Li eutenant D rummond, who declared that in ‘'er)r- case of exper i ment t h e b us i ness was conducted in the l'air est and most agreeable manner, and with every facility to the tested, f or parties e ngage d. This gentleman, however, sug onsist of the improvement of the Board, that it should four p ersons , name l y, an optician, the hydro the grapher to the Ad m i ra l ty, a chemist, and the President of Board of Trade. Now he (Sir R. Peel) did not think that a Board so constituted would either be as efficient 'or Ait. e waagreeable— t(A laugh)—as th a t w hi c h at present existed. s certainly an h onorary mem b er of the Trinity s'O ,and and he of part might, perhaps, on th a t account, b e suspected being ejudiced upon t h e su bj ect, but he must say, that, a fromad found every consid era ti on o f t h e ki n d, h e t h ought he h, in the evidence before the Committee on this suli Mr iet, th e strongest grounds for confirmin g th e i r R eport . . HA WES supported the amendment. 'Mr. A. CHAPMAN supported the Bill. Mr. WALLACE supported the proposition of the Hon. Member for Bridport. M r. EWART did not see any force whatever in the argument of the H on. Member for Whitby, that the Board !If Admiralty could not attend to the business of the Trinity-hoard without neglecting its own. m eas Sirore.. GRAHAM gave his cordi a l assen t to t h e J Oa w Mrhich. HUME said th at whilst he agreed in the pri nc ipl es his Hon. Friend's proposition was founded, and expressedu his conviction of their being ultimately success f 1 he trusted he would not divide the Committee upon it, particularly when he bore in mind that the present Bill went some way in correcting the abuses which arose from the ex istence of private Lighthouses. Sir C. ADAM was clearly of opinion that the principle of centralisatio n which this Bill was framed to enforce was inecessary ; but he could not see the propriety of placing under the control of the Admiralty estahliahreents which were supported by a tax on the maritime community. Colonel J. PARRY bore his testltriony to the satisfac tion given at present in his cory (x,?keti , s L we suppose) the manner in which the lighti - ' at nf,', at least was conducted under the Trinity-board. Mr. WARBURTON., in r e pl y, felt bound to press his p r oposal to a division, The Committee then divided, when the numbers were— For the clause ........................ 68 For M r . Warburton's amendment 7 Major;:ty against the amendment —6l Clause 64 we,s then agree I to, after a short discussion. Ther r,...em.ai were then agreed to. ',ling clauses of the Bill • n'.., ME moved the addition of a clause to put an end I. .. 1, ( I the granting of further pensions by the Trinit -oaro COr „. This clause he proposed, in pursuance or the re omendation of the Select Committee. Mr . P. THOMSON said that all the information Which he had been able to obtain upon the subject induced .?(I on him in opposite: , the clause proposed by th e 4- , l 'On. Membe r for Middlesex. There had been no com plaint whatever made by the shipping interest against the com plaint of the liglitest suspi,: ',:ensions in question, nor was there the th e h. In, oney, . ~ion of any favouritism or misapplication of The number of persons who benefitted by these s if ns icals. was 8,557, and the aggregate amount of the pen. °xis ells only 93,000/. Mr. WALLACE objected, not to the charity, but to the manne r in which the money was raised. If the Hon. Me mber for Middlesex divided, he (Mr. Wallace would, B a m a tt er of principle, divide with him. ) by the Mr. CHA PMAN concurr e d i n t h e op i nions expressed President of the Board of Trade. Mr. YOUNG observed that this was not a question of in amount c harity. Th e merc h ants of Shields (the se con d p or t eamount of t onnage i n the island) were unanimous for the continuance of these pensions. Mr. HUM E would certainly take the sense of the Committeen on the clause. The Committee then divided— Per the clause Against i t ... lO ....................................... , Majority . B5 —75 , Th e: House then resumed, and th e R eport was ordered to be received to-morrow. TIMBER DUTIES. Mr. H AWES wish e d to repeat a question which he h ad Put to the Right Hon. Gentleman early in the scission specting the timber duties. What he wished to know .~ was, whether it was intended to make any alteration in the timber duties, or in the mode of measurement ? Mr. P. THOMSON said there was no intention to pro pose any alteration in the timber dutieE 3 or in the mode measurement. HAND-LOOM WRAVERS' BILL—CUSTOMS ACTS: Mr. MAXWELL hoped that he Migl.t now be Illdwed to bring on the question of the scuend tea-ling: of the Hand-Loom Weavers' lull. Mr. WAROOktOnI - and Mr. FoRBEs pressed the pro eetdinit with the Bill. 800,000 persons were anxiottsl t-Xpecting the decision of the Legislature on the subject. On the suggestion of Mr. P. THOMSON, however, the House resolved itself into a Committee on the Cus toms Acts. Several resolutions were agreed to, and the House having been resumed, the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. HAND-LOOM WEAVERS' BILL —ESTA• BLISHED CHURCH BILL. Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved the Order of the Day for the House to itself into a Committee on the Es tablished Church Bill. Mr. MAXWELL renewed his solicitations to be per mitted to move t i ne second reading of the Hand-l oom Weavers B;r,. Lor, -JOHN RUSSELL, however, on the ground of its 1 7.c . ing understood that on sueh days as that Government Orders of the Day should have precedence, persevered in his motion. Mr. MAXWELL then moved, as an amendment, that the Order of the Day for the second reading of the Hand loom Weavers Bill be read. The House divided— For the amendment.. Against it 65 Majority On our return to the gallery we found Mr. JERVIS moving, " That it be an instruction to the Committee on the Established Church Bill that they have power to receive a clause that no clergyman not fully con versant with the Welsh language bcrappointed to any see or benefice in the Principality." Colonel L. P. JONES seconded the motion. Lord J. RUSSELL must oppose the motion. . _ _ Sir R. PEEL said that as the principle of. the Hon. Member's proposition was fully recognised by the House, be thought it would be better for the Hon. Member not to press the motion to a division, which might leave him in a minority, and thus lead •to an erroneous inference being adopted by the Welsh people. There was ,no doubt but that the Bishops would take care to carry out the principle in question in the cases of all Welsh ministers without any legal provision to such an effect. After a few words from Mr. Wynn, Mr. Guest, Mr. Rice Trevor, Lord .G. Somerset, and Mr. Chisholm, the House divided for the motion— Ayes . Noes . 64 Majority The House then resolved itself into Committee. On clause 10 being read, - - Mr. LAMBTON moved as a proviso that no portion of the revenues of the see of Durham be devotedto other ecclesiastical purposes until provision is made for the spiri tual wants and moral instruction of that diocese had been adequately provided for out of those revenues. Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought that his Hon. Friend was mistaken as to the affect of the Bill. When he ad dressed the House on the subject of this measure on a former occasion, he stated that there would be a sum of money derived from the bishoprics, as well as about 129,0001. from the suppression of certain dignitaries in the Church, which surplus was to be devoted to the increase of the incomes of the holders of the smaller benefices and to the promotion of the religious instruction of the people. In the diocese of Durham there were some rich canonries, the holders of which had no duties to perform beyond that con nected with the cathedral. It was proposed by the Com missioners that after provision had been made for the service in the cathedral, that the remainder of the revenues of these dignitaries should be applied to the increase of the incomes of the holders of the poorer incumbencies, and otherwise to the making provision for the religious instruction of the people. There were undoubtedly many populous places in Durham where there was not at present adequate provision of the latter kind ; but when he stated that the surplus accruing in this way was to be devoted to the ob jects which he had described, it was not fair to suppose that no care had been taken to provide for the religious instruc tion of the inhabitants of the diocese of Durham. He denied that one of the chief objects of the Bill was to take a consi derable proportion of the revenues of the see of Durham away, with a view of creating two new bishoprics. There were certainly to be two new bishoprics, but these were to be created in subtitution of two others in a different part of the country which were to be suppressed. In short, it was proposed that there should be a new territorial distri bution of the dioceses. The Commissioners proposed to do away with what had been long a reasonable source of complaint—that such rich bishoprics existed in one part of the country which might be contrasted with such poor ones in other districts—that to one bishopric there was annexed a superfluity of income which was not justifiable, while to another bishopric, in order to afford an adequate revenue, they were obliged to annex some prebendship or other office of dignity, or a benefice which then often had not proper care devoted to it. He felt the wants of the holders of benefices in the diocese of Durham ; but when the Commissioners stated that they should by the ar rangement now proposed be able to increase th e reve nues of those populous parishes, and to administer to the in struction of the people, he did not think that it would be proper or expedient to stop at the threshold, as was pro posed by his Hon. Friend, and to make an essential alte ration in the plan for the benefices of the diocese of Dur ham. He could not help observing that if they at °nee proceeded to apply themselves to the wants of each local case, and to the spiritual demands of each benefice, that the result would be that the plan of Church Reform now proposed, or any other which was likely to be proposed, would not be successful, and the hopes of those who now anticipated a beneficial change in the Establishment would be disappointed.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. ARTHUR TREVOR contended that adequate attention had not been paid to the wants of the population of this large and important diocese. After afew words from Mr. HARLAND, the Corn. mittee divided. Ayes Noes , 88 Majority , 80 The clause was then agreed to. Mr. WILSON JONES moved as a proviso to clause 11 that no part of the tithe property belonged to the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor shall be applied to the general pur poses of the Bill, but shall be appropriated to the spiritual wants of those dioceses in such way as he recommended by the Commissioners. Sir L. PARRY cordially supported the motion. Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought that the reasons which he had urged against the former proposition were equally applicable to this he would not therefore trouble the house with repeating them. Mr. C. W. WYNN would recommend his Hon. Friend to withdraw his motion. Mr. WILSON JONES consented to withdraw his • motion. Sir L. PARRY hoped tjiat his Hon. Friend would not do so until he had received a promise from the Noble Lord that the suggestion of his Right Hon. Friend should be attended to. The motion was then withdrawn, and the clause was agreed to. The remaining clauses ►rere then severally put and agreed to. - Mr. JERVIS then brought up a clause to the effect that his Majesty should appoint Commissioners to examine clergymen' nominated to any benefice in Wales, to see that no clergymen not fully conversant with the Welsh lan guage be appointed to any see or benefice in that country. The clause was added to the Bill. The House then resumed, and the Bill was ordered to be reported on Friday. INNS, ALEHOUSES, AND VICTUALLING-. HOUSES BILL. Mr. HAWES moved that this Bill be committed. Colonel SIBTHORP objected to the 'notion, or to such a measure being brought forward at such a late hour. Mr. A. TREVOR hoped that his Hon. and Gallant Friend would allow the Hon. Gentleman to proceed with the Bill. Mr. WA KLEY expressed a similar hope. Colonel SIBTHORP said, that if the Hon. Member persisted in proceeding with the 13111 then, he would move the adjournment of the House. Lord JOHN RUSSELL recommended his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hawes) not to divide the House ; and he would en deavour to fix for him an ear • ll 1 y .ty on which le eoupro ceed with his Bill. The Bill was the n postponed until to-morrow. THE BOROUGH OF STAFFORD. Mr. DIVETT moved that no new writ should be issued for the Borough of Stafford until the first day after the next Session of Parliament. The Earl of LINCOLN objected to the motion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re commended his Hon. Friend to move that the issuing the writ should be suspended for a short time, and at the same time to give notice of his intention to move for the suspen sion of the writ until the next session. . . Mr. DIVETT then moved that the ►wit should not be issued until that day fortnight. The motion was then put and agreed to. THE POOR LAWS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in the absence of his Noble Friend the Secretary for the Home E SUN, LONDQN, WEDNESDAY, JULY 13, 1&z36. Department, begged for leave to bring in ft Bill to facilitate the administration of the PoonlatVs: The Object of the 1.1111 was to make a reduction in the interest of slims of money ohic►',i had boon adVariedd by the TreaStirk for the purpose Of building *orkhonset tinder the Control of the Poorz!ai,v Commissioners j ‘ arid also to 04tencl the time for the repayment Of these loani from Jeri t.a titenty After a few words from Captain Ptexilt and Mr. FORBES, the motion was agreed to. The Bill was then presented and read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Friday. SPIRIT LtegNStS. ....~: The CHANCELLOR-of the EXCHEQUER gave notice that he should on Friday move that the House re solve itself into Committee on the Excise Laws, with the view of proposing a reduction of the duty on spirit licenses. The other Orders o f th e D a y were then disposed of, an the House adjourned at a quarter past two. HOUSE OF LORDS, JULY J. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat 03 the Woolsack shortly before five o'clock. Mr. Campbell, from the East India House, and Mr. Mudge, from the Office of Woods and Forests, presented papers. Lord WYNFORD presented a petition from the Trus tees of the Commercial Road against the London and Blackwall Railway. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER and several other Members of the House of Commons appeared at the bar, and requested a Conference with respect to the Amend ments made by their Lordships in the England and Wales Municipal Corporation Amendment Bill.—Agreed to. Mr. BAINES, and other Members of the House of Com mons, brought up several private Bills. LONDON AND BLACKWALL RAILWAY. Lord DACRE presented three petitions in favour o this Bill. ECCLESIASTICAL REVENUES OF DURHAM The Marquis of LONDONDERRY postponed his me. tion for a Committee to enquire into the Ecclesiastical Revenues of the See of Durham, from Thursday to Tues day next. CONFERENCE. The following Peers were appointed to conduct the Con ference on the part of their Lordships :—The Marquis of Winchester, Lords Hatherton, Radnor, Plunkett, and the Bishop of Exeter. Their Lordships, after a short absence, returned, when the amendments of the Commons were read by The Marquis of WINCHESTER, and ordered to be taken into consideratiOn on Friday next. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. The Dublin and Drogheda Railway, and other Bills, were brought up from the Commons, and read a first time. TURNPIKE 'TRUSTS. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition complaining of the abuses of the present system of Turnpike Trusts. He thought that the best plan would be, for Government to advance a sum of money to pur chase up these trusts. If this were not done, the persons who lent their money would not, in many instances receive a shilling of interest, and in others the roads would fall into decay. Lord DONCANNON admitted the justice of his Noble Friend's observations, and thought a short Bill ought to be introduced to provide against the anticipated evils. It was now too late in the Session to proceed with any general measure. SALMON FISHERIES (SCOTLAND). The Earl of ABERDEEN moved that a message be sent to the Commons, requesting a copy of the Report of the Committee on the Salmon Fisheries of Scotland. — Agreed to. TITHE COMMUTATION (ENGLAND) BILL. On the Order of the Day for their Lordships to go into Committee on this Bill being read, The Bishop of EXETER said that this Bill, if certain amendments were adopted by their Lordships, would not operate very prejudicially to the Church of whose interests lie felt himself a trustee. The Right Rev. Prelate went on to state certain objections to the details of the Bill, which he trusted would be remedied i❑ Committee. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE could not concur in the objections stated by the Right Rev. Prelate. Lord ELLENBOROUGH expressed his approbation of the Bill, and said that much as was the benefit it would confer on the public, the Church would be benefited to a much more considerable extent. Their Lordships then resolved themselves into Com mittee. Upon clause 1 being proposed, Lord ELLENBOROUGH. said he would suggest that the Commissioners described in the clause should be ap pointed in the same way as the Commissioners under the New Poor Law Act. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he had no ob jection, and the amendment was agreed to. The clause was then agreed to. Upon clause 4, Lord ELLENBOROUGH moved as an amendment that the Commissioners be invested with the same power of appointing assistant commissioners, clerks, raid merengers as is given to the Commissioners under the 'Poor Law Act, subject to the control of the Treasury as to salaries and number. The amendment was agreed to, -and the clause, as amended, was agreed to. Upon clause 10, Lord WYNFORD proposed that considering the very important duties to be performed by the Commissioners, an oath should be substituted for the declaration required by the clause. The Duke of RICHMOND objected to the system of requiring oaths from persons appointed to almost every office. The amendment was then agreed to. The clause, as amended, was agreed to. The clauses up to 33 (with the exception of clause 22, which was postponed) were severally put and agreed to. In many of them a number of unimportant amendments were made. Clause 34 was agreed to, with the several verbal amend ments. On clause 35 being proposed, Lord WYNFORD suggested a proviso that the Com missioners in any case in which they .stated they could not find the real value of the tithe, should be required to give reasons for that statement. After a short discussion, the question was put and the clause negatived. Lord WYNFORD should move the proviso again in a subsequent stage of the Bill. The clause was then agreed to. Clause 36 was also agreed to. • Upon clause 37 being proposed, Lord ASHBURTON inquired if the payment of tithes in a parish would not be varied, according to the fact whe ther hops were or were not cultivated. • The Marquis of LANSDOWNE admitted that it cer tainly would be an exception to the principle of the Bill, which was to fix the payment of tithes. The clause was agreed to. Clause 38 agreeSto. Upon the motion ,of Lord ELLENBOROUGH, " orchards " were included in the 39th clause. The remaining clauses were then agreed to with verbal amendments. The postponed clauses were also considered and agreed to, as was also the preamble. The House resumed, and the Bill, as amended, was re ported and ordered to be printed with the amendments. The Murderers' Execution Bill went through Committee. The Holyhead Road Bill was also committed without amendments. The Bills on the table were forwarded a stage, and the House adjourned at a quarter past twelve o'clock. In her new work, " Jonathan Jefferson Whitlaw," Mrs. Trollope has again taken the ground whereon she for merly reaped ,so much renown. Her descriptions in the above product►on of the scenery on the shores of the Mississippi are exceedingly grand and striking ; while in developing the character of her hero (the son of a " squatter in the bush)," she has displayed with irresistible effect, the mind, morals, language and pursuits of a genuine Yankee adventurer. THE PACKET-SHIP INDEPENDENCE.—A few days since we announced the arrival of this ship at Liverpool, in the unprecedented short passage of fourteen and a half days from this port. She returned again on Monday night, having made the homeward passage in twenty days. She has thus performed the voyage both ways in thirty-four and half days, and consequently bears the palm from all other ships that ever sailed from this port.—New York Gazette. TIIE 'VIOLIN, AND ITS PROFESSORS.—Among the signs of the increased attachment to music, now so ob viously manifested in this country, a more extended cultiva tion of the Violin is clearly perceptible ; and the time is exceedingly opportune for presenting a work expressly de voted to the history of this instrument, and to the celebra tion of the chief individuals who have successively figured in connexion with it. This task, it appears, has been attempted by an amateur of the name of Dubourg, wlni has just pub lished a small volume, in which the progress of the Violin is detailed under its principal Schools, and a copious Memoir is given of the marvel-working Paganini, together with a variety of miscellaneous Anecdotes and Sketches of the most amusing description. CURIOUS DISCOVERY.—Weber has discovered a very remarkable fact, that the left hand is more sensible of heat or cold than the right in most persons. Thus, when the hands of a person lying in bed, and of exactly the same tem perature, were plunged each in a separate vessel of hot water, the left hand was believed by the person to be in the hotter medium, even though the water it was in was really one or two degrees colder than the other. Weber has rendered it highly probable, that the greater sensibility which the left hand un doubtedly possesses in perceiving changes of temperature, is Owing to the circumstance of its being covered, particularly on its palm, b% a thinner epidermis, in consequence of being less used. —Dr. (Naves on the Sense of Touch. tr, 4 PI it' T v 1 Tkili PUBLIC Jain:MA L letter td the Isiew Association in Dub UnaVOidalily ptisipOned yesterday, will be fodnd eat' pfeSent lit letter has already called forth :tthiii4 a the Letid ahilse Of the ditty Apostate, whose vapouring toWatde the close of a long and verhlst tira:le, in which pompous phrasal. logy supplies the place or sense, rind scurrility is sub stituted for argument, is as amusing as the ludicrous bluster of the redoubtable 'Squire of Clod-hall. " If," says " fighting Bob," screwing tip his courgge to the sticking place, " if the alternative is to come, and whenever it-does conic, or our beiug the depositories of despotic power, or its irrecoverable viethits, We tell Mr. Daniel O'Connell thatont choice is made, and he, not England, shall surely perish." There is a touch of " flints and triggers for you ! JAW ttlit a band this pugnacious penman would be at " double. barrelled swords, and cut-and-thrust pistols !" Ob serve the rising of his valour. " Our (the scurvy re negade's) choice is made." Ay, good Bob, it is, and that choice would urge you, were confusion to arise, to trust to your heels or to a servile shake hands for safety. But wherefore all this fiery fustian ? Has Mr. O'Connell called upon his countrymen to rebel a g ainst the British sceptre, and to sever all eg i ance by the sword ? On the contrary, he counsels peace not, however, the peace of a base subserviency, not the peace of an infamous submission to the insults of Baron Lyndhurst, and the tyranny of the Tory Lords, —but the peace which becomes prudent freemen whom the law and the constitution have invested with ample power to crush their ruthless foes—the enemies of civil and religious liberty—the confederated and cor rupt foes of human rights—without violating pub lic order. To meet—to associate—to agitate within the law and by legal means—to remonstrate—to pro claim their unmerited wrongs—to put forth, as befits men and British subjects, their legitimate claim to the advantages guaranteed to their country at the period of the Union—to declare their desire for a full participa tion in those salutary British institutions which in 1800 they were told they should have a title to, if they assented to the amalgamation of the two local legislatures in one Imperial Parliament—to demand _ . the fulfilment of the British portion of the contract— to resolve that with nothing less than equal rights and equal laws will they ever be satisfied—to point out to their British fellow subjects the justice of this resolu tion, and the manifest benefits that must flow from generous compliance in so equitable a demand ; to do all this Mr. O'Connell counsels his countrymen, and if he hesitated to propound such advice, his share of English feeling would be contempt. The renegade reviler of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman says : " He abuses wholesale the county constituency of Eng land, and their landlords, for being operated upon by the cry of No Popery.' We congratulate our Protestant countrymen that the shoe begins to pinch. He tells the English farmers that their best interest is the prosperity of Ireland: Then who, in that case is their most deadly foe but the grand disturber and obstructor of that prosperity ?" In this passage we have falsehood flat and false hood covert. Mr. O'Connell does not abuse wholesale the county constituency of England ; but he states a fact, discreditable to the Tory landlords of England, when he asserts what has been demonstratively proved in Warwickshire, in South Devon, in Northampton, mid in other counties, that by the operation of Lord Chandos' tenancy-at-will clause in the Reform Act, the farmers of this country are reduced to the most cruel vassalage, and are driven to the hard necessity of screening their abject slavery beneath the cloak of sectarian animosity. Driven to the poll, like oxen to the pens of Smithfield, by their Tory landlord s an d T ory agents , t h e farmers of Eng land in a majority of instances are glad to hide the shame of a necessary subserviency to the will of a tyrannical Tory proprietory under the veil of a religious rancour. Obeying, in fact, the unconstitutional mandate of a Tory landlord, who has it in his power to cast them forth froth their farmsteads, and who takes care to exercise this power when politi cal honesty, stifling personal interest, affords him an opportunity, the bulk of the farmers of this country are rejoiced at the polemical appeals of the Tory par sons, which in some sort veil their degradation, by giving to subserviency the semblance of religious zeal. Mr. O'Connell is as convinced of these truths as we or any other observer of things are, or can be ; and he does not, therefore, abuse the farmers, who are the victims of a ruthless oppression, but pours out his indignation upon the Tory oppressors. He also tells the farmers of England that they are deeply interested in the peace and prosperity of Ireland, and ' thus urges them to disenthral themselves from the shackles imposed upon their consciences and their free-will by that tyrannous party who abuse the rights of property, and trample the Reform Bill in the dust, in order to promote their own selfish ends—their own corrupt aggrandisement. The Tory party, in order to punish the Irish people for contributing so effectually to extinguish rotten boroughs and to reform Corporations in England, and in order, moreover, to uphold an anomalous Church Establishment in Ireland, for the exclusive benefit of the Aristocracy, the younger shoots of which are there well nourished, to the injury of merit and the ruin of the Protestant religion —this vicious 'faction, for these vicious purposes, refuse to Ireland Corporate and Church Reform ; by doing so, they keep that country in a perpetual ferment, to the manifest and grievous injury of the farmers and manufacturers of England, and not all the knavery of the unprincipled print in question, can shelter them from the guilt and the odium of being the palpable disturbers and obstructors of the prosperity of the United Kingdom. A day of retribution will arrive—it may be nearer than the fac tion, or even the friends of peace in Ireland, and prosperity in all quarters of the empire, anticipate.— Morning chronicle. That portion of the Stamp-duty Bill which concerns newspapers is, it appears, the only part of it which the Chancellor of the Exchequer deems sufficiently im portant to be pushed through Parliament during the present Session. We have often said, and now repeat, that so far as we are ourselves concerned, the novelties of this measure, whether decided on, or threatened only, affect us very slightly, if at all, save in so far as the general character of the press, and through it the puhlic interest, may thrive cr suffer. The chief pro . - position of Monday evening which bore any thino- ° of au unprecedented aspect was one i n t ro d uce d by Mr. C. Buller, that all the proprietors of newspapers, or shareholders in them, should be registered, and this on the ground that at present newspapers " could cir culate all sorts of slander, and he 'therefore insisted that every proprietor should be registered. It was . not right that anonymou s wr i ters s h ou ld h o ld up individuals to infamy, by the lucubrations of obscure and worthless persons, whose obscurity and worthlessness shielded them from responsibility. He contended that every individual having an interest in a paper should be registered by name at the . Stamp-office. It is clear, therefore, that the Learned Member for Liskeard, whose experience leads him to conclude that the ano nymous lucubrations of newspapers must of necessity proceed from ,obscure and worthless persons, has no better nostrum for the responsibility of anonymous slanderers than the registration of the names of all who hold newspaper property. In answer to this gentle man, who, we suppose, holds himself to be as celebrated as we are obscure, we shall merely say, though with perfect indifference as to the result, that the public h a re no business with the details of sleeping partner ships in Newspapers any more than in Magazines, te l ljevor other li terary specu l at i ons . Th e couctry, "Inite'ed%,slias a right to adequate security against the violation of the law, .and that in the case of stamped Newspapers is already well enough pro vided for, while redress for unjust assaults upon private character and feelino is always a ttainable through the editors and acting managers of public jour nals, as they are car r i e d on at present —no instance we presume being o n recor d , w ithin the last twenty years, where the non-existence of an editor, by statitm. and character fully responsible, could be pleaded as an argument for such change s in the law as are now re commended by M r . Ch ar l es B u ll e r. If th e fair dealing members of the House of Commons do not -look about them, there seems reason to fear that cer tain official persons may give the " go-by" to the really important provision urged by Sir Robert Inglis, on Monday evening, for securing a copyright to daily dirt:rids • against the robberies o f p enn yl e ss pirates, ( Ird Witt otherwise prey, trpon their capital and inclus tE lkie adsWer of Mr. gptitig Bice upon that point was singirlarly dsirk and ill-omened. Let that Right Fionsrinisbie: personage dace set Iris Stamp all p asse d, and the e'd44 are; that Copyright limy go whistle for it (hiring WS' tertchle dt office. Tim'e's. From the debate in the fiddle' of Lord ors the New Marriage L z iil rliNd the Registration tit births Bill, it is very obvious that died measures will not Decome law in their present shape. It is equally obvious that it would be a very considerable hardship on the great body of the people if they did. It is impossible to read the statements of the Archbishop of Canterbury and Lord Ellenbotough respecting the vexatious clauses of these Bills without feeling ashamed for that branch of the Legislature calling itself " popular," which should allow such measures to pass. What ever may be thought of these Bills by tie Dissenters, w ho pre for the most part in gold circumstances, with sufficient trioq67 to pay fees and servants, and friends to attend to all the famalities which such measures would render necessary, there can be no doubt that the mass of the people, the working population, would be grievously tormented by them. All the old habits with regard to marriage and baptism must be broken up, new formalities must be learned, and some penal ties be incurred if they are not attended to. And they could not possibly be attended to without a sacrifice of time dud money much greater than is demanded from the common people under the provisions of the present law. These measures, as sent up by the Com mons, are in fact measures of petty but elaborate ty ranny, under the name of improvements. The conve niences and likings —nay, even the most unreasonable prejudices of the rich dissenting middle classes, are in deed consulted and provided for ; but the poor are scornfully loaded with a heap of perplexing restric tions, such as hitherto they have never known. And this is called "liberality'' and "improvement." The real liberality, that is to say, toleration, which allows men to follow their own consciences in :*ratters of conscience, but forces even "impeovement" upon no Man against his habits and convictions, has been !Ll' displayed on the other side. What says the Arch bishop of Canterbury ?, Why this is his really liberal declaration :—That he supposes the principal object of these measures to be to relieve the Dissenters from the necessity of conforming to the ceremonies of the Church, and that, so far as the measures go, merely to establish this principle, they have his entire concur rence, and not only his own, but that of the Church Clergy generally. But the Dissenters, or whoever have had the preparation of these Bills, are not con tent with such enactments as would have this effect, and go no further. They must not only have their own way in their own affairs—which is reasonable, but they mu*, interfere with the ways of others, and pre vent the Members of the Established Church, both clerical loud lay, from following their way—which is not a all reasonable, but most intolerant ; and yet this they call " liberality," and " improvement." Almost erery clause of these measures goes not only to provide new legal modes for Dissenters—to which, if they like them better, they are welsome—but to es tablish equally new modes for the whole people of this Kingdom, of whom the majority being Church of England Protestants, are content to have the law as it stands. We really can scarcely conceive any stretch of assumption more monstrous and unbecoming than this—that because a certain large body of Dissenters from the Established Church choose to be relieved from the legal necessity of complying with its cere monies, in certain important matters, they shall pro pose a law, not only to relieve themselves, but to com pel a change in the habits of the whole body of the people, who desire no such change. We must refer to the speech of Lord Ellenborough on Monday even ing, for an enumeration of the hardships and penal ties which, by these measures, would be imposed upon the poor. The public may learn from thence the mild, tolerant, and considerate disposition of those who cannot bring themselves to conform to the usages of the Established Church. They arc much too " phi losophical " to make any allowance for those who may have the utmost objection to conform to the usages which they prefer. They settle the matter at once by the infliction of a penalty. We speak,' we rejoice to say, only of the measures as they have passed the House of Commons ; hut let our countrymen judge, from such measures, what they might expect if Cie House of Commons were, what so many contend that it ought to be, the sole legislative body in this. country. Lord Ellenborough stated in his speech, what every man who looks to the practical affairs of life in considering new thedries - of law must know to be true, that, as the law stands, a poor man who generally knows the clerk in the parish, has merely to apply to him when he wants to have the marriage ceremony performed—to pay the fee for putting up the bans, if he is able to pay it, and then, after the proper time has elapsed, to attend at the church and be married. By the new Bill, all manner of details and particulars must be set forth, and two people known to the registrar Must be found to vouch for the truth of these ; and this is but the first of a series of forma lities, all requiring time and attention, which the working man cannot afford without great inconvenience. The rules with regard to registration of births are even more stringent. A name must be fixed upon within eight days, and notice sent to the proper officer, and, after another stated number of days, witnesses to the birth must attend to give proof of the circum stances, and a catalogue of penalties are provided to mulct any one who may be found practically insensible of the great " improvement" which liberal Dissenters have devised. Lord Melbourne says that all these difficulties and faults may be got rid of in Committee on the Bill. No doubt they, may ; but is that any excuse, fcir time Ministers who have proposed, and the majorities, who have carried such 'measures in the House of Commons? We think not, and we are persuaded that the country will be of the same opi nion.---Moruing Herald. It has been for some time past a political boast in France that in its public spirit and in its institutions of Government and Legislation it has surpassed Great Britain. The British - Constitution, once the model for aspirants after political liberty even in France, is now considered -to. be an inferior system to that which the French themselves have the happiness to possess. Not only is this gratifying assurance MI" 117011 'awn.. the French people, but they go so far as to believe or to assert, that we in • E:iland participate in the same sentiment. They say that the darling object of our political philosophers is to approach the excellency of their system—that are in short as to our political institutions no longer the imitated of all the world, but the would-be imitators of the French—of the French " resew rated," enlightened, liberalised, by the Revolution of 1830, and the events which liav'e followed it. It is Worth while, we think, at the present moment, to consider how far this assertion is true, and, if so, what reason we have to be proud or to be ashamed of it. They who judge of the national sentiment of Eng land by what the present Administration has been per mitted to do, may very well suppose that wc.are in deed envious of the French system, and desirous of imitating it in practice, even befor e we h ave arr i ve d at a similar theory of political Government.. Let us ' .compare the character of the public proceedings of the two c ountries. A Paris jou rna l, rev i ew i ng the posi tion of t h e Ftench radicals and the Ministerial party, wires such an account as this of the actual state of t hings :—The honest men of the new regime, it says, expected that if the revolution of 1830 went no fur ther, it would at least reali6e the immediate hopes with which it had flattered them. They now perceive, how ever, that, instead of ameliorating the institutions of France it has violated them; but at the same time, While among themselves they condemn everything which is done, they do not dare to attack openly either the acts of the men in power, or the spirit in which they are undertaken, or the men themselves who advise and carry them into. effect. They tremble lest they s hould shake the power itself, and thus in a manner engraft revolution upon revolution. In the midst of this pre caution The national interest is lost sight of. Nothing great or useful can be attempted.. They can find no way in which to oppose integrity to intrigue, and the conceptions of an enlightened patriotism to the petty combinations of faction ; for, intrigue and egotism being the springs of the machine of Government, such •a 3 'the revolution has made it, these springs can • • 41 A -I T. not be changed without stopping the men who one day hope to guide it the hare idea of paralysing its aetio vtsri " fl lama Bill" for " R evolution," w exact description than :lie foregoing of the poSitivei mokilfrf relative condition of oar Government and the Rcdicall patty which supports it? Of the real sentiments of et pd ay We have abundant indication, though not a direct: aYowal, in the political occurrences of every day. Even.: the newspapers which a.e called Ministerial—the: Examiner and the Chronicle—can ill conceal the dis-. gust ttith which they regard the " half-faced fellow-• ship" of theli• Government which they so virtuously praise. But the cleverest man of the party—and, a far as character goes, no worse than the rest—we mealy. Mr. Whittle Harvey—has thrown off all reserve, and let out the bitter truth concerning the contemptible. Government which he can no longer bring himself to support. His description of that Government is sin gularly like the character of the French Govemment which we have quoted. It cannot, then, he denied the the present Government, and especially that mero her of who is at the head of the Foreign Depart ment, gi ve Ksason to the French to believe and to as sert that th e B r it . sh are humble imitators of the French. But the mistake is in confounding the British nation with the present Government, and with the miserable crew of coxcombs in the House pf Commons who mistake their want of principle for philosophy, and their admiration of French frivoDY for sym pathy with a more enlightened system of politics, literature, and manners. We have left out religion in our catalogue, because there is none in France with which that of England may be contrasted : and, if there were, these coxcombs, in the sublimity of their silliness, would hold themselves above such conside rations. The English nation is., however, not so de praved—not so lost to all sense of virtue and dignity— not so deadened to all patriotic feeling—not so stu pidly forgetful of history—not so intcmicated with va nity, or enamoured of the bewildering combination of voluptuousness with extravagance and crime, As to have lost that healthy detestation of French ples which has in times past been a national char. racteristic. We decide, then, that the assertion or French, concerning our admiration of their poli tical siate, is altogether an error, and proceeds from mistaking the impertinence of fops and fools for the declaration of the Englis. l i people. Upon the question whether, suppo'sing this assertion to be a truth, we ought or °tie't not to be ashamed of it, little need he said. Look a:. the trial of Alibeaud. This wretch who, when takeiZ , coldly accounted for his crime by stating, in that ch:trullng style which Mr. Buller so much admires, that an age of egotism he too had his convictions," was m0v,"41 in the course of his trial to a more distinct declaration' of the political morality under which he, and no doubt thousands like him, are abandoned to the commission of horrid crimes. " How long"—said the President of the Court of Peers, addressing the prisoner—" how long have you entertained the idea of arriving at a. Republic by an attempt on the person of the King ?" The prisoner answered with a loud voice, and with much energy," Ever since Louis Philippe put:Paris in a state of siege. Ever since the miseries of Lyons. Ever since the citizens have been massacred in the streets.. Ever since I have seen that his reign was intlamous, I have desired to kill the King." To kill the King—le frapper a mort ; this is the mode which a politiciom of the new school, who acts, forsooth, " upon his con Yic tions,"‘takes to remedy political grievances. This ay . pared to the wretched man, perhaps, to be a convic tion ; but they who look beyond a man's own avowal (perhaps sincere) for the sources of such an act, will trace it to that desperate vanity, uncontrolled by any sense of reverence for things divine or human, which " endeavours to arrive at celebrity by crime." We will not wetiken the impression which such a declaration as that of .Alibeaud is calculated to inspire by further commentary upon it. Let it speak for itself as to the political sentioent of France, and the probable end of literal oppressio3 on the one hand, and godless, law less vengeance on ON other !—Morning Post. On Friday night, irr moving for leave to bring in a Bill for the Reform of the Church establishment, Lord John Russell stated to the House the chief pro visions of' the prOposed measure, which is founded on the fourth Report of the Ecclesiastical Commission. It is proposed that nine sees be redueed from 102,8601. to 70,7001., which will give an excess of 32,1601., which is to be applied to the augmentation of twelve, and the creation of two new sees. The following table shows the items of the proposed arrangement : From. To. Excess. Deficiency. X, 1. 9 secs to be reduced 102,860 70,700 32,160 2. 1 see to be raised 4,220 5,000 3. 12 sees tobe raised t 33,560 54,000 to 4,5001. each. 4. 2 new sees at the same ... 9.000 5. 2 unaltered 9,700 9,700 20,440 9,000 £150,340 148,400 32,160 30,220 148,400 30,220 £1,940 £1,940 , • Thus dividing the proposed income of 150,3401. between the Archbishops and Bishops, it will give to each the following revenue : To the ArchbiAcr of Canterbury X 15,000 ,To the Archbishop 4 , f York lO,OOO To the Bishop of Loni:oo lO,OOO To the Bishop of Durlia.. l l • To the Bishop of Winches):er 7,000 And to other bishops various sums, the highest amount being And the lowest amount being. . . __ _ The Bill provides that every Clergyman must re side on his living for nine months pf:rson to hold two livines except they ::.e•within ten in the year. No mile,' of each other, andriunless under spec:3 l circum stances. No person holding one living of 5004 a year to be allowed to hold another. In future, in eases where the Canons do not take the preferment themselves, the Bishops are to exercise the patroo age hitherto enjoyed by the Dean and Chapters. The measure being one recummended, or rather acceded by the high dignitaries of the Church. it a b e expected that opposition would ,v n,, to t he given by the Tory party, and aceoidingiv—unless proposed by Mr. C. Lush e majority, rescting the i a , o e v e o except n t o a d n lostamendment by a iarg r abolitioa of the right of translating Bishops from one see to another, and a declaration by Mr. Hume and Mr. F. Buxton, against the Bill being ht all considered as a setaotnent of the Church question, as it left many gross abuses still un ceeressed—leave was obtained without much discussion, for the introduction of the Bill, The measure can be considered merely as itself in tro:luctory to a more efficient reform of the Church Establishment ; for it is not to be endured that au Archbishnp or Bishop be left in possession of 16 . .000i. or 10,0001. a-;'ear, while many of the working- cler gymen have not t n ,cre than 501. The safety of •the Church itself requires more equitable distribution of its revenues, and the loiNer a just reformation is delayed the more will the afre L ni:. on and respect of the people he estranged from an esta;ishment which, in Its present condition, is not alone a L:::'.7raCe to the country, but to Christianity. There arc fcv persons now so besotted as to suppose that the zeal mann-!sted by a certain party in favour of the Church arises from a respect for religion. This is but the pretext—the. real motive being either the desire of maintaining po litical ascendancy, or of retaining possession of public plunder. It is an old trick to make religion the pre text for the commission of crime. What persecutions, tortures, and massacres have been perpe is tried in the name of religion I Eut now the nia.k 'n(= remo ved, and like the worshippers of the veile-d , prophet, men stand aghast at the hideousness of the the picture concealed behind it.—Morn. Advertiser. - CHAT EA ÜBRIAND.—This celebrated writer, it is already ,known, has been for a long time engaged in a transla, , tion of Milton. Thi s un d erta ki ng l e d him to a multitude at re.icArchcs respecting English Literature in general, and the result has been the production of a new work entitled ". An Historical View of English Literature." Independently of its in,iirt object, this work will possess a high degree of interest, at e understand the noble author has introduced into the con. eluding portion pretty copious extracts from his Memoirs, which were announced only to appear after his death. ATMOSPHERIC CHANCES.—.OO the morning of Tuesday last, the Thermometer stood, in the shade, in cha. old:am, at eighty-five degrees. The wind was then at Oa Wednesday—the terrific thunder storm having, in terval, taken place in and near London—the The in the rmometer --.tcod at 691 degrees. On Thursday the wind was at N.E. f i ttiti m 1 l iA i';44: 1 a r ririn m. , tkteS Ht &0:)&ciliut&I.