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PARLIAME 'VISIONS (Pr om the Totes and Proceedings of the House qf Commens.) WEDNESDAY, MAY 21. IitIYNOOTH COLLEGE BILL. pti Oad ed. er , for Third Reading read; Motion made, and Question pro- Pre be,,,, That the Bill be now read a third time :"—Amendment 1 44 -4 • to leave out the word " now," and at the end of the Ques . That t o a& th e Words " upon this day s i x months :"— Question put, dlyided„._. the , Word • now' stand part of the Question." The House MAJORITY —AYES, 317. 4 444 - 90 . 1 n. ViscoUnt Ferguson, Sir R. A. O'Connell, M. J. A 2tnel. Sir T. D - 7' 4 , 0 .T.D. * Fitznaaurice, W. O'Conor Don Fitzroy, Henry O'Ferrall, R. M. aa...aZi. Captai n Fitzwilliam, G, W. Ord, William AZ ir e l ' ey V , ia c c . caust B Fleetwood, Sir P. Ossulst on, Lord . Flower Sir Tames Oswald, Alexander A,,,_4l4Werth, Peter Forster ' , ' Mat ' thew Oswald, James '''' a uz. Wils ro ktso Colonela Fox, C. R. Owen, iir John 4,..,,,n, Fremantle, Sir T. Paget, Colonel ...f,!hold, R obert diel French, F. Pakington, J. S. la, arlm „NUT, IVil E lia Gardner, J. D. Palmerston, Visconti Gaskell, J. M. Parker, John .241111 e, Colonel Gibson, T. M. Patten, J. W. Z',4_,!ne, Walter Gill, Thomas Peel, Sir Robert ...alrd, 'William Gladstone, W. E. Peel, Jonathan R"Y, Davi d Barkly scr, Gladstone, Captain Pendarves, E. W. , ...,. B arin g. F T r y Glynne, Sir S. Pennant, Colonel Godson, Richard Philips, G. R. uzsning, Thomas g ai n% W. E Gordon, Captain Philips, Mark e rn ant, E. G. Gore, Montague Phillpotts, J o h n Ori n ,. Gore, Robert Pigot, David Itarro,.on, Vis count Goulburn, Henry Pigot, Sir R. nt. n, Sir 11. , kattliew Graham, Sir J. Power, James -t n, Joh n Granby, Marquis I'raed, W. I'. tell ew, , 1311 ; 41 , 4 , e u 1. i ' k 1 , : l e ... , o 3 : 1 • I d . , G . . Granger, T. C. Pusey, Philip Greene, Thomas Rawdon, Cot. Grey,.. Si_r . George Redington, T. N. i i.we, si r v . i• Guest, Sir J. Reid, Sir John R t o ?enter e ~ Hale, It. It. Repton, G. W. J. k i ,. , ,Ltellard Haltbrd, Sir 11. Rice, Ltold' R. H. krru e l re, R. G. Hall, Sir B. Roche, E. B. Hamilton, W. J. Roebuck, J. A. li otin, P,, C k._, Peter Re"'. Berian Hamilton, Lord C. Ross, D. R. 1/ 0 4. 1./ W r' j A ° L a l Harcourt, G. 0. Round, John ..tav r r i . -- irai Hatton, Captain Rous, Captain Hawes, Benjamin Rumbold, C. E. RI.. g,br. ,qusto n, T. ~,, Ilayter, W. G. Russell, Lord J. irratialle, W. " • F Heneage, G. H. W. Russell, Lord B. BraZ ar T igg, J. s Heneage, Edward Russell, Charles S o p: , , ord B . • Henniker, Lord Sandon, Viscount Iliffil kl eY, Sir Herbert, Sidney Seymour, Lord 8,13 r, Chariest' Heron, Sir Robert Seymour, Sir H. Shell, R. L. lita t ie r _. Edw ar , Hervey, Lord A. T, P. 8 . }Linde, Joins H. Shelburne, Earl Ii:i: Georg e Hoblsouse, Sir J. Smith, Benjamin W Smith, Vernon c w ed rd Holland, Robert Smith, T. B. C. arta % , -Ward Holmes, W. A'Court Smythe, George Ca r ~. S. c.__c, Iv ~, Hope, Charles Somers, J. P. `Kier W. P. Hope ' G. W. Somerset, Lord G. a'' agh .Vs ope, ' Somerville,Sir W enai iik „ c unt Horsumn. Edward W. etc'elali a b ,`-' C. Howard, C. W. Somes, Joseph T'sipt a ,v. 11. Howard, E. Cll e ,„ an, 11. noward, E. G. Standish, Charles CpuTa , Visco unt Howard, Philip 11. Stansfield, W. R. C. Cb Q i„, - *" 8 , J. w "'• Howard, Sir R. Stanton, W. 11. cli - mlntidel e ,'„ Hume, Joseph Staunton, Sir G. Y, Si r -', TT. Hutt, William CI A IV Stewart, John tle rta ,„ n , R R Ingestrie, Viscount Stuart, Lord J. Clerk -.ens. ',... - James, William • Stuart, W. V. , 1 iSeo u ~ ir (.1, 0 „ . nt James, Sir W. C. Strutt, Edward r , Joh T'a Jenn - n, Earl Sutton, Henry el i ,l llt „4: R i g V n Jocelyn, 3 Viscount Tancred, H. W. ~.06d • Johnstone, Sir J. Tennent, J. E. C en . k. Thesiger, Sir F. ,ocisb Kelly, Fitzroy t:01b 0 -`", Sir id Labouchere, Henry Tollemache, F. J. c.. ri le W • Lambton, H. Tomline, George "Y nok • it ' oli o4 ,eit T. Lascelles, W. S. Towneley, John C015„,...0ha Layard, Captain Traill, George tOot7' " Willia Leader, J. T. Trelawny, J. S. Con, ' Sir C. if in Legh, G. C. Trench, Sir F. W. ta,..__ 41.1 Y,.., - ",,* Lemon, Sir C. Trevor, G. R. v,....'.Y, Re n , - "`iew E. Lennox, Lord A. Tuite, H. M. c ., "'Trea a .„. , 1 . Leveson, Lord Vane, Lord 11. 67 . 7 . p t ,„.i.,', ,prd Liddell, H. T. Vernon, G. H. at Isr . ”G . r. Lincoln, Earl Villiers, Charles B l la , Nytu i Villien, Viscount halk a t , alls Lindsay, Hugh ' -•', Lord Listowel, Earl Walker, Richard Dyer...., c ei„. Loch, James Wall, C. B. b7 l .,:_ei ti, A" . e s t Macaulay, T. B. Walsh, Sir J. B. 'T. V. Mackenzie, W. F. Warburton, 11. h! a ik a ts' I V ' J Mackinnon, W. J. Ward, 11. O. : a u c e n a ts c n l s i a y r , a } ,..lNl t ajur Watson, W. 11. Wawn, J. T. gr---'15 3 . 11 t41°,1 : 111 0h i ; MAI blein,,!nUrt, C. T M Neill, Duncan Wellesley, Lord C. tiv e irctl, P . it • Mahon, Viscount Wemyss, Captain ' l:4, v , rd . /dangles, R. D. Westenra, J. 1,71 lar''rge ' Manners, Lord C. S. White, Samuel wai! ~. Sir e Manners, Lord J. Whitmore, T. C. )4,lra, ATarquis* Marshall, William Wilde, Sir T. l alll rn° nJ, IT H. Martin, John Williams, William ... Martin, C. W. Wilshere, W. R:a..,cauLovol'.V.unt Martin, T. B. Wilmington, Sir T. biZlits, p re( i' Is9onlit Matheson, James Wodehcuse, Edmond ksia 4, DavZ iet Milnes, R. M. Wood, Charles tZk. .+ J. 1 1. Mitcalfe, Henry Wood, Colonel T. tiloPe, Sir J. Mitchell, T. A. Wortley, Lord kbri n l , V,n. Mordaunt, Sir J. Wortley, John S. ye. etsn, Vis '. Morison, General Wrightson, W. B. gee, /It. 110,count Murphy, F. S. Wynn, C. W. W. g ee, Ise , ll' E. Murray, AlexanCer Wynn, Sir W. L k a - Ct, ' R V i l e a lth e n it ulit 'Napier, Sir C. Wyse, Thomas Neville, Ralph Yorke, E. T. Xs..l 4 Z, n e, Sir P Newport, Viscount Yorke, H. R. ttiv "rt, T. 4, T. Nichol], John 411, Ral ph ,B. Norreys, Lord trta k 4. C olonel Norreys, Sir D. J. O'Brien, J. kkers, TELLERS. Young, John Baring, Henry . 4 ... . Jam, MINORITY —NOES, 184. _ - .coe.n.., C olonel Eaton, R. J. Maunsell, T. P. Qom,44ll"maler, ~.. Egerton, W. T. Maxwell, J. P. J. 1,..,..1 athaniel Egerton, Sir P. Miles, PW. S. re °4l4 ' Ed Entwisle, William Morgan, Charles . Morris, David 4rehb!ott, iT und Ewart, William Mundy, E. M. c Farnham, E. B. ttin3' aPtain Feilden, W.. Manta, G. F. -, lit 0„„ Neeld, Joseph An - L, e3- ,Lo' rd "'AIM Fielder, John .d,,..74. Win, Fellowes, Edward Neeld, John 11-'44 f•-'la"' Ferrand, W. B. V iey,' - ° l onel Filmer, Sir E. Newry , Ne wde g avties,,Corius. Viscount un t Northland, 1 * Un. Pktorm.'), A. Fitzroy, Lord C. O'Brien, A. S. Thom Ftelliott, John Packe, C. W. 111*t., /,,as Forbes, William Palmer, Robert Ittt,tiord,ll'4u, Forman, T. S. Palmer, George tr • h ! 6 , , (1,. 4.10r Fox, S. E. E. Pattison, James I llee - " 411 1._ . Vi a , Fuller, A. ),; Pechell, Captain lgi„,...sto ne , 01 111 t Gore, W. O. _ Philipps, Sir R. B. tt, b "V. 8 . Gore, W. R. G. Plumptre, J.:P.! tio,`:_J. Goring, Charles Polhill, Frederick r i .L . clei ni t * l'• Grcenall, Peter Pollington, Viscount 8 -4411 aw Gregory, W. H. n l ght , ', J . . Powell„Colonel .1.1,. -thin Crimsditch, T. Price, Richard )1,7°, M. (3rogan, Edward Edward /a 41 IeY, 11. H allyburton, Lord I'mtlieme' , knk'ekleintrat J. Hamilton, J. H. llashle gh, W . tirtl -th erton, J Hamilton, G. A. true4l' . C e -, A,a - ibu nPden, Reim ltei Richards,dlesia ß m i c , h L a o r, r i d Hain, Sir J. Rolleston, Colonel Itruges,ly. rt Haim („: • Round, C. G. Thlek, L. W. - • , aptaiu Zitiekl Ilastle, at, Rushbrooke, Col. ~,, . ey, E dmund Ileatimeat, , 050 Ryder, G. 1). /saber, Sir J. Burrell, Sir 'P. 1111141;.3Ordj W. Shaw, Frederick Shirley, E. J. t kb, i , ,) H sj. Inthile3', Charles Shirley, E. P. li q u A ° / u )e r l i l, J. C / . /. Horhby, J ohn Sibthorp, Colonel eilL _Draan, Aaron Htlghes, W. B Smith, Abel . .r 'We, Sir j. Humphery, Alderman Smyth, Sir H. (C na ,2 o l)ber, R . A. IriusseY, Ambrose Spooner, Richard ode, si r w "asseY, 'Thomas Spry, Sir S. T. tol e, R, 4. • Jervis, John Stanley, Edward to l e , j . e Johnson, General Stewart, P. M. ile' C. ic . Johnstone, Hope Stuart, Henry tc , n. Id. c Jolliae, Sir' W. Taylor, Edward t tin°ll 3'• e 1 C. t9nes, Captain Taylor, J. A. opei.-2 o , onel trawi'.mu, Alderman '',... 1 1!b1 . e . , Henry ei p ,._ • ord , Nv.„ . ..., i eter b‘rb'el3' H. B. ' Kniht, F. W Thompson, Toea ei, e , , Alderman Join, Tower, Christopher ba,„Y , Geor ge linightle3 .• Sir . C. Trollope, Sir J. 4,..' 1 Y, Iv . R Law, c, E. Troubridge, Sir E. b4,.joes, win ia • LaWson Andrew Lefroy, Anthony Turn ,r, Edmund b kk! 'n, t. 13. 14 Tumor, Christopher 'lar QW Otin Leslie, Tyrrell, Sir J. T. 1141,44"'Loftus, Viscount Verner, Colonel Nu las, S iSr b b 11 Q, Lope s, si r R . Vyv - N an, Sir R. itl ks, J. ri Lowther, Sir J. H. Waddington, 11 . S' itnat;" .'' L wther, Colo ne l Wakley, Thomas ;No ' "eorge A[ac kenzie, TT. W e lb y, G . E, Nhe, Th . - 'Ma clean, Don a ld D ~1 , ,, 0. Thy APTaggart, J. thlt.z.t, , Adruir_, Mainwarb,g, Sir T. o ki marton, George Masterman, John TELLERS. Inglis, Sir R. H. Ilankcis, George Spf,„ kyttyriNG CE.N St, (RECEItrm , At Sal P rod • -.D THIS DAY.) I t ht onat P rod -nY RAcEs.—WEDNESDAY. e. tr.. ~ fill! uce Stakes, of 20 sovs. each, h ft. Colts, Th e . ,411 8 s te,, t es, Bst 41b. Mile and a qua:ter. (5 Subs.) s ' t eat ei ' at meat walked over i l k. 4 . 11 ct If' de:4411.4:dd H andicap, of 25 sovs. each, 10 ft, and li t, k os V, - am 8 c ., , with 100 added. About two miles. Itp , 4. Ipti., siiiotoWeetmeat, 3 3 - rs, sst 101 b (Dufflo) 1 sie,44.tut,sici,s.,B n i , 4 . yrs, 6st 131 b Ft °Juan, 3 yrs, sst Ilb , A t ~ .-i.;l,ttle liampton, 4 yrs, Gst 101 b 1 :4 44, 8 L ae st ok " on rather easily by a length. Po`44l4B:.gethertesleY Races on Monday and Tuesday Mr. eri h eat; Maid, 4 yrs won the Cleveland Hunters' kr "(I th n g f our oth i S*l ' 1., e.,,,,,_ e f,,_ , ers, tie i ver Cup, beating th , ree r te,; e i cti'B st`les eland Stakes, beating six others. Ihe te well ° w as Won by Mr. Squire's Isabel. The contested. Dlyi7"..--- ..........,_,........_ qNer sk „ kr . t t. - ,,, lrrk . wi: NEAR GOSPORT. k.-. 44 4 he to as aAv.—A duel was fought last night near ori nes : tod %,0111batants were Mr. Seton, late of the IRh NI, It hd Lieutenant H. C. H. Hawkey, of the Royal 14 4 4 4)e aP P e ars th * ki ai 4ri ach, on k at at a soiree held at the King'srooms, on o lio alterwed attentioonday evening last, Mr. Seton paid 50me tt:411,41.41:44 in .. a to the wife of Lieutenant Hawkey, and .lo,,:ltht h . ono a hi. 'Be Public room, insulted by Mr. Hawkey, rt k .m h. 4. a.he,., 4cketiard and •If d told him if he would bra At ^ou h _ .a vi ian, an a tt , the tinn e d orsewhip hint down the High-street of Ports -4141 l'" e th these words were used Mr. Seton was endea- I s , , 4 Alen e ball-room when Lieutenant Hawkey, who yt , ,„ a sofa ~ ' ietiet - ', l lll, - .+eeti„,„ , rose, and attempted to him as he "11 , ,, , cti - a th e --. Was arranged, and at five o'clock ' ti sa , o' °Pposit corobatants met at Stokes-bay, near Fort I tt at t :l4;, /t oivi ea t It Yde, on the Gosport shore. Lieutenant 4 1 „ to i t tdvm; et " 14 ., acted as second to Mr. Seton; and l'lset' a lth.. - "aUteh. L. Pyrn. of the Royal Marines, was 4 4 ‘,(1 5 -.la - I, 4t ag,' t he „, Daces) Hawkey . The combatants having arrived, N is k oi,, .o r 4 was !_,,a_a measured, and the principals having been 9 4u 'Y h. Ills P. 4 ' e n, when Mr. Seton fired and missed hI I , k it . pistol . olo n ,'Y seco m of Lieutenant Hawkey was placed in his St ai 'rio, did at half-cock and consequently Lieutenant 'elk eh a . . . til, piled c a ve his shot. Other pistols were, Ilth,_ tija, 40 ,, t o the combatants, the word was % et : fi re te nant M , u AJOt h fi red. Mr. Seton immediately 4 0 a l . s a l 4J tOlei.aWk<7, without waiting to see the result NO : 4 144'4, 8. i t i ) to itis antagonist, immediately fled with his e ti tvekel.on and Ow to France." Mr. Seton was conveyed 4 t0 4 , 141 as s .' l4 lt n• - , a Yacht in Waiting, and brought about half tbd,,h_ itt a , e _ , llnt to the Quebec Ho tel, on the water's edge. m _ ! Wa s call • k itt ‘Q :h, h - ''', W 0 4„,, ed in, and it was discovered that Mr. 'N t ,`' .. o_', l ; n o i ttli paZed d angerously on the right side of the "ath et ;`a thia—"hg through and coming out on the left side. t 1,88 thing Ileivi..ening Mr. Seton was pronounced rather ts.. fi t l.4 --------_`. hopes are enteitained of his recovery. '4zi0,4.1.4, I ,:e 11,, - -- --... Vt 114.1 1.43 t Exp ;IN t ook ~,. ......l res LOSION AND DESTRUCTION 1 4.14/ , or Vace ~,ftY morning, about half-past eight, an , itt,, , aog a Wr• tv a 'i t h' the bridge, Old Kent-road, at the steam 4 ..!. h .._ w as se ers, on the banks of the Surrey Canal. gal l‘ ° ,,,th e ' c of t v i c htY feet high was blown about in all itt, 4 4 -4 di air i l fragMents Leended about two hundred 2410 11 11 t o t ,!tbacti 3 , 'e boiler, which weighs three tons and I NS Nell 41 : 0 0 0 fe et s etn by a man in the Kent-road blown N 14, 4 1 4 th e ut 1 4 ',Then it went across the canal at that eleva I 114 Art 0 fer ee of Yards front the premises, in a stone yard, til t 4%111 the I v :pa fall, it was embedded about two feet. The Gr. Iltt ir Ov ont , tleiabboters' house became a heap of ruins, and the ),,,i 1, 01 1 ,.,: 'ef, 2thood are much damaged by housesk Ni l N iel., ' 4 oo ( i we waS forced in all directions The in 0,_ar1 4 4, 1 ,,t th 1 1:, Ids rßen„aiso Muchshake n by . the explosion. h-A t '4 I,.. , ti c i ,„..-- tb rle --. Were fortunately the only persons a _ef,Tr-b 4 .ntild hal,.te men, 12or 14 nni ha'd gone to ;litit3,KkotigZ e,eavp,bseell back in a few minutes. There were . tft;%l4rtet k t i ptlit, ,' . l ; th e ~,,.ib t amon g st the most fortunate was s 4 'll th l a t) ° tail ° se bo ns g. te!' of a gentleman In Afaismov thll t h as o f °Sion t els situate at least 500 yards from the ~,Ni, The to,a4,°°k lace. The I d was in the act of , " 10 10 8 hei,kid ce,ti r roorns, when a large Vece of iron passed . 1 4 4, 4 4 a tia at t m . o Lc eton;:og vYttli the force and velocity of a cannon t 4l , a,, I,4l4ll:s,,htrteen,tired U r ic , k , ‘, f wash-hated stand, which she had but 4 %,„,'lo,, i pey ou ,,- , the room indeed so recently that she had not 14 %h n itik . th e xn ancould not therefore be more than s t, 104 6 :144 k bar ge oa t h n oft he destructive missile. A poor 4 t hs ill tet:Nver e f alling o n . 11° c anal, WAS wounded on the hand ki11,,41,,,:_ Imo !e yin g l ever at the instant the boiler and parts t se a ti ti ti , 4l h, 41 41 a t Reve r ei' lr ?is bead. But the greatest sufferer is ~N%I-7 or „„ di, ti,.s,-.liobinled, while his son, who was also , ti,:,,,a e nie, 41`11111:, explosion took p i alce, escaped unhurt. ' st l, klik t ,PitiiT eve,,, 7.- division were immediate attend si:late. _giet. , lies „id !setstance to a nninber of workmen iii , bzixt,to d 4. _ kihrinn, Jendering the m safe , r is , pr ev ent Vttg Vateatlautnythule day the scene was viewd by many k. i n ‘Ohreredoo C flight of the boiler to such a distance Wthl ' e v,„ 0,„ 'tor -1 P 44 9 , 'less Priria Alliert has purclased —4,%, Plet tir . ' 41 4 -"" Anti" ii, 1 7,7,! /111 1 reeent Eahibi ... • . THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, MAY §2, 184 g: rbirb Wtittion SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock, RAILWAY COMMITTEES (THIS DAY.) Group EE. DUNDEE AND PERTH (NORTH) LINES. The Committee on these railways resumed this morning at the usual hour ; the Right Hon. F. Baring, chairman. The Hon. F. Ponsonby said, that a meeting had taken place since the Committee separated yesterday upon the subject of the terminus, as suggested by the Right Hon. Chairman, with a view to make some arrangement between them. Hitherto all negotia tions had proved abortive, and even that commenced this morning had concluded without a settlement, nevertheless hopes were en t tertained that an amicable issue would yet be attained. Under this anticipation, therefore, he should, on the part of the promoters of the Dundee and Perth line, abstain from touching on the ques tion of terminus and the South Inch. The CHAIRMAN suggested that both parties should refrain from alluding to the subject of terminus altogether. This proposition being acceded to, the evidence of witnesses was continued. John Miller, cross-examined by Mr. FORSYTH—The line he had proposed between Dundee and Perth would proceed parallel to the turnpike-road for several miles, more than a milo and a half or which would be within ten feet of it. No prevision had been made for separating the railway from the road, but in their Bill they had suggested its being left to the direction of the Sheriff. The height of the bridge on the Tay above the ordi nary high water mark would be 7 feet 2 inches. Was aware that a communication had been made by the Admiralty to Lord Kin naird, but was not in possession of its details. (The Learned Counsel here read a letter from the Secretary to the Admiralty, dated May 19, 1845, in which the opinion of that Board was decidedly expressed against the erection of any bridge over the Tay, inasmuch as it would entail con siderable mischief on the navigation of that river, but in the event of its being found absolutely indispensable, they would concede to it on the condition that it should be constructed at right angles to the river, at an elevation of sixteen feet above the ordi nary high water mark, and that a swing bridge should be thrown across similar to that to be erected over the Tamar at Torpoint, on the South Devon line, having an opening of fifty feet to allow of the passage of vessels. •With those requirements their Bill did not comply, inasmuch as the letter was of so recent a date, but their course could now be easily shaped so as to act upon them. The length o f embankment through the Tay would be in the first case five furlongs, in the second a quarter of a mile, and in the third about a quarter of a mile also. The embankment would require 30,000 cubic yards of earth-work per mile, varying in width from twelve to seventeen feet, at a cost of one shilling per cubic yard, and wanting 12,000 yards of pitch-work. Cross-examined by Mr. COCKBURN, O. C., on behalf of the Scottish Midland Company—Had not as yet prepared a detailed estimate of the cost of the undertaking; but would have no objection to fur nish the Committee with the various heads and items of the ex penses, nor with a rough sketch of the bridge he proposed to throw over the Tay, in accordance with the requirement of the Admiralty. Cross-examined by Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM for the trustees of the Perth harbour—The chief traffic on the river Tay was concentrated at the Penitentiary below the South Inch. He did not think that there would be any difficulty experienced in the construction of their line near Sleepless Island. George Lorimer, examined by the Hon. Mr. Postsosry—ls one of the contractors of the Dundee and Perth Railway. Has exa mined the estimates and items of the line in detail, and considers them correct. Cross-examined by Mr. FORSYTH—The amount of cubic yards of embankment on` the entire line will' be 600,000/. ; estimates the cost of the masonry at 12,700/.,-and the laying down of the rails without sleepers, or anything except bare labour, at 11,0001. Ihe sum total necessary for that proportion of the line which he had estimated was 80,0001. (This line of cross-examination being objected to by Mr. An drews, the Committee ruled that either the course should be allowed, or the evidence of the witness altogether struck out. The latter alternative being preferred by the promoters of the Bill, the evidence was expunged.) James Leslie, examined by Mr. ANDREWS—Is a civil engineer, and being instructed by:the trustees of the Dundee Harbour to sur vey the proposed course of the Dundee and Perth Railway, and see whether their harbour would be injured by the embankments to be constructed on its margin, was of opinion, that so far from being de trimental, it would be of the greatest advantage to the harbour. In 1842 the trustees of the harbour contemplated the formation of similar embankments, anticipating the most beneficial results, but had subsequently abandoned the measure, solely from pecuniary motives. Cross-examined by Mr. FORSYTH—The time it would take to pass from the terminus of the Dundee and Perth to that of the Dundee and Arbroath was about four minutes. In January last had made a report to the trustees of the Dundee harbour, in which he said that: Dock-street, being only eighty feet wide, should not remain both a quay and a street, and that it would be preferable that a line should pass, if possible, in any other direction than along Dock street. Had also reported that very serious injuries had been inflicted on the harbour by the embankments already constructed. Does not think the amenity of the houses Would be injured by the line passing immediately by them. Andrew Barless examined by Mr. ANDRCWS —IS a land-valuer of 20 years' experience, and having valued the whole of the line, had made . = estimate of 23,908/. 4s. 9d. Cross-examined by Mr. FORSYTH—That is a high estimate; has taken 185,205 acres. This having closed the evidence of the promoters, Mr. FORSYTH, on the part of the conservators of the river Tay, commenced his rebutting case, by calling David Stephenson, who deposed to the issuing of the original prospectus of the Dundee and Perth Railway in 1844, in which a bridge was proposed to be thrown over the Tay at a place called Macdrum, about seven miles from Perth. That scheme had been abandonei., when it was proposed to erect it at the South Inch, which latter project had also been given up, and a third, according to the suggestion of the Board of Admiralty, finally adopted. He considered from what he could gather of the pro position that it would prove inconvenient to the traffic on that line. The direct examination of this witness being concluded, and the Speaker announced at prayers, the Committee adjourned. Group E. THE NORTHUMBERLAND ATMOSPHERIC LINE. The Committee proceeded this morning to hear evidence in favour of the opponents of this line. Mr. Scott Russell's cross.examination was resumed for the pur pose of showing that his calculations were falsified by certain facts, but his evidence remained generally unshaken. Mr. Locke was examined by Mr. HILDYARD—The tendency of his evidence was to prove that the atmospheric principle would not succeed on a long line. The promoters of the system seemed themselves not to have much confidence in It, as they never tried it for any distance. It was only in such a case as that at Dalkey that it could work well. Mr. Harrison was next examined by Mr. HILDYARD for the purpose of showing that the traffic of Northumberland could not be worked by the atmospheric principle. Mr. ALEXANDER objected to the reception of such evidence. A short discussion then ensued, and after the room had been cleared for some time for the purpose of leaving the determination of the matter to the Committee, The CHAIRMAN said, that the Committee understood that when the traffic tables were put in by the Northumberland Company, the traffic was proved to be sufficient to support the line. The object of the opponents of the Northumberland line was to show that the atmospheric principle was not such as to enable them to convey that traffic, and on that account the Committee were of opinion that the evidence could be received. Mr. Harrison's examination was then continued—He stated that there was an average of 715 head of cattle conveyed to New castle weekly, from the last week in January to the first week in July. There was a market-day once a week in New castle, which occurred every Tuesday, and the cattle should arrive the day before. He calculated that there would be 300 tons weight of cattle conveyed on that day, allowing 8 tons per truck; and there would be a traffic of 4,615 sheep, making 922 tons of sheep and cattle together. 99 tons of coal would be the average quantity carried daily, including the weight of the waggons. The gross total would be 1,197 tons, conveyed on the day before the market-day. The passenger trains would be 38 in one day. The Locomotive Company proposed to run 44 trains per day. The Committee not being able to proceed with the evidence of the witness, in consequence of the absence of some diagrams neces sary fur its illustration, adjourned at four o'clock. Group W, The cross-examination of Mr. Hardy by ➢lr. lUonkliouse—(Con. tinued from our Afternoon Edition.)—The vessels employed by him and coming from the eastern districts to Goole, with corn, drew about seven feet water, and their tonnage averaged nom 70 to SO tons. Mr. William Bingley, of Ellersley Lodge, in the West Riding of Yorkshire, was next examined.—He was well acquainted with the district between Penistonc and Huddersfield. The price of lime now was 255. per ton, and he had no doubt that great quan. titles of it would be used for agricultural purposes, if:it could be conveniently procured. The present consumption would be greatly increased if a line of rail was formed from the Knottingley quarries. There were 50,000 acres of land in that district which required lime. The usual quantity of lime used for an acre of land was two and a half tons. The price of lime at the Knottingley quarries was 6s. per ton. lie considered that the annual quantity of lime used for the district referred to would be immensely in creased, if this line were formed. By Mr. BOUVERIE—A great quantity of land bad been lately inclosed in that district. It had been limed, and this had greatly increased the value of the land. Previously to its being limed, he had let the moors at Is. 6d. per acre for grouse shooting and sheep-walks, but since that he had let It for 20s. an acre. Mr. Henry Biggs, of Overton, Wakefield, was next examined— Was managing partner of the Flockton collieries. Occupied 1,000 acres of land as colliery beds. Turned his attention very much to the subject of the application of lime to agricultural pur. poses. Had lately written a paper on the subject to the Geological Society. If this line were formed he had no doubt but immense quantities of lime would be applied to the land along all that line of country. The average price of coal, at the pit mouth, was 6s. 9d. per ton, This included the royalty of Bd. per ton. Mr. John Walkr, surveyor and mining engineer, had been in prac- tics for twenty-five y ears. Was well acquainted with the coal district of Wakefield. There were ninety-one colleries there within a circle of six miles. The produce of these mines was sent to all the ports on the eastern coast. Immense quantities of coal from this district were also sent from Hull to America, and other places abroad ; and he had no doubt if greater facilities were afforded for its transit to the coast, that this exporta tion would be increased to an incalculable extent. Upwards of 5,000 tons were at present daily raised from the beds in and about Wakefield. Thought that greater regularity would take place in the transmission of coal by railway than by canal. Mr. Richard Pope, 8, Lower Thames.street, City, was joint owner, with his brother, of an extensive colliery near Wakefield. Shipped large quantities of the produce of this mine to London and the ports on the eastern coast. This coal was known in London as the " Cliff Wall's-end Coal." Made a railway of two miles, with a tunnel of 9.60 yards. Before the making of this railway raised an. nually from 35,000 to 40,000 tons, but since that the quantity raised was much greater, The strike that had taken place in the Newcastle collieries was the means of introducing to a very great extent the coals of the Wakefield district, but they were known in the London market before that. He had thirty.two vessels employed in the shipment of this coal, and he was very frequently unable to find as many vessels as he re quired. These vessels brought back nothing, as the delay which would take place in unloading the returned cargoes would throw the colliers idle. This inconvenience would not take place if this railway were carried out. The Hon. Mr. Lascelles deposed to the favourable feeling which existed in Wakefield towards this railway. He knew many of these who signed the petition which had been just presented in its favour, and they were very respectable people. By Mr. HARDY—Mr. Smith's house was of that class of houses generally occupied by country gentlemen. Did not know whether the line came within 'Jaffa mile of it or not. Lord Pollington, M.P. for Pontefract, stated that the feeling of the inhabitants of Pontefract was entirely in favour of this line. Mr. Monckton Milnes, M.P., Pontefract, deposed to the bene fits which the railway would confer on the malting trade of Pon fract and the trade of Knottingley. Mr. George Russell, butcher and cattle.dealer—Lived at Kel lington, within 16 miles of Wakefield. Purchased on an average 1,000 sheep in the year, and 100 fat beasts, which he sent to the Wakefield market. Found that beasts were sent from Ham. burgh to Wakefield in less time than he could bring them from Goole. (In reply to a question from Mr. Wilkins, this witness ca used great laughter by saying that these Germam beasts were called " Sir Roberts.") These " Sir Itoberts " ar rived in better condition from Harnburgh than his beasts i%(:.~ from Goole. If this line were laid done tho facilities which it would afford would enable him to compete better with the " Sir Roberts."—(Laughter.) Mr. John Patty, butcher and cattle dealer, gave similar evidence as the last witness to the advantages which would result by this railway in affording greater facilities for conveying cattle. Mr. James Hymer, miller, near Snake, deposed to the great disad. vantages which those in his line of business were at present labouring under for want of increased accommodation for conveyance. Mr. John Norwood, corn-factor, gave similar evidence. Ralph Creyke, Esq., lived near Goole. Was proprietor of two thousand acres of land. This line of railway would, he consi dered, tend very much to open up the resources of the country, and was in his opinion the most eligible line that could be laid down for that purpose. It received the most unanimous support from the inhabitants of the district, and a petition was adopted by the inhabitants of Goole in its favour without a dis sentient voice. He had no doubt but every department of trade would be benefited by it. Mr. W. Wells, agent to Lord Beverley—Occupied 450 acres of land, and had no doubt but the proposed line would ma terially benefit his interests by the increased facilities which it would give for the conveyance of agricultural produce. He also thought the public would greatly benefit by the in creased stimulus it would give to trade. Mr. U. Wedall gave similar evidence, and it being now four o'clock the Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. • Group 11. This Committee, consisting of Lord Barrington (Chairman), Mr. Leader, Mr. Christie, Mr. Bannerman, and Mr. Botfield, re-asscm bled at one o'clock to-day. LANCASTER AND CARLISLE RAILWAY. The Committee proceeded to pass the clauses. A clause to give compensation to the Lancaster Canal Com pany was proposed, but rejected by the Committee. Alter passing several clauses, the Committee adjourned to to morrow week. Group L. GUILDFORD, CHICHESTER, AND PORTSMOUTH RAILWAY. The Committee on this group resumed the inquiry this morning on the Guildford and Portsmouth Railway. Mr. E. B. Dennison in the chair. After some evidence respecting the traffic to Fare_ ham and Havant, which was precisely of the character of that given yesterday, some suspicion was thrown by the counsel for the promo:ers of the line on the several names to the petitions. Lord Arthur Lennox, one of the Members for Chichester, was called, and to the queries of Mr. Gurney, stated that as he took a great interest in the lines projected for connecting Chichester with London, he gave a decided preference to the Guildford extension line. He positively asserted that there was not the name of one single elector or burgess attached to the petition which had been presented from Chichester against the line of the South-Western Company. The population of Cliches. ter was upwards of 9,000, and in his opinion it ought to be con sidered next to Portsmouth. To the cross.examination of Mr. RAWLINSON, his Lordship stated that the population on the proposed line was far superior to that on the atmospheric line. The gentlemen's seats were cer. tainly more numerous. There was Lord Egmont's house, Good wood, the Midhurst property, and several others immediately adjoining the proposed railway. To the cross-examination of Mr. WADDINGTON, Lord Arthur stated that he had approved of the Brighton Extension line; and To the reexamination of Mr. GURNEY, he stated that he had a belief that several of the noblemen and gentlemen who had signed the memorial to the Board of Trade were in favour of the Guild ford Extension line. The CHAIRMAN here interrupted the Counsel by saying that, unless evidence of a similar kind were adduced, I.e could not put much weight on the Noble Lord's testimony on this point. Some difficulty occurred as to the date of the memorial, and the change of opinion which might have occurred since it was signed. Mr. Waddington ultimately read the letter of the Duke of Rich. mond, in which his Grace intimated that the memorial was expres sive of the feeling of the greater number of the landowners against the proposed line. Mr. Edward Casher, a wine-merchant for the last 42 years at Portsmouth, and who was the mayor of the borough, stated that, in his opinion, the Guildford line was decidedly the best for the town. To the cross.examination of Mr. Sergeant TALFOURD, Mr. Cz.sher stated that he had convened the meeting at Portsmouth in consequence of a requisition presented to him for that purpose. The meeting was numerous, and highly respectable, and there was a large majority in favour of the atmospheric line. The feeling of the town was opposed to the South-Western Company, and if the atmospheric line were as cheap, more expeditious, and more safe, it would be the better one for Portsmouth. The inhabitants had formerly preferred the line by Horsham, and when the South- Western Company had at that time profferred a terminus at Forts mouth, it was refused. On further cross-examination, Mr. Casher stated that he did not think that there was either jealousy or rivalry between Southampton and Portsmouth. The trade, it was true, had been partly diverted to Southampton before the making of the Gosport branch, but much of it had come back. He did not think that the circumstance of both lines being in the hands of one company, would lead, on their part, to any deviations of the traffic, nor was he aware that several of the Directors of the South-Western Company were proprietors of the Southampton Docks. To the cross-examination of Mr. Itawianison, Mr. Casher re plied that he did not think theproposed terminus of the atmospheric line would be more convenient than that proposod for the Chichester and Guldford line. There was certainly an excellent access to the best and most improving part of the town by the terminus of the atmospheric line, while the a j proach t o th e terminus of the other line was by a sufferance road, which was the property of the Crown, and might be stopped if the Government desir ed. He was of opinion that a rich Company would be more likely to provide good accom. modation for the public than a poor one. On being re-examined, Mr. Casher stated that the first project was for a line from Fareham, by Chichester to Portsmouth. The second project was the Brighton Extension line, and the third was the present line from Guildford. The proposed terminus of the atmospheric line would be more convenient for Portsea and Land port, and that of the other for Portsmouth and Soutbsca. The population of the Portsmouth district of the town was about ten thousand, and of Portsea double that number. One of the great objects in forming a railway was to make a navy communication with Chichester, Midhurst, and the rich country on that route, and that this Guildford line effected. Mr. James Warner, a proprietor and occupier of land near the Gosport branch of the South-Western Railway, stated that he knew the traffic to Chichester from Salisbury and all parts in the west. He occupied about 1,200 acres, and was largely engaged in the breeding and feeding of sheep ; and he believed that if the railway were extruded westward to Chichester, and beyond, it would materially increase the facilities of bringing cattle from the west to be fattened, and then returned to the butcher In the west. He had experienced great inconvenience in sending cattle over the floating bridge at Gosport. He was engaged in the timber trade, and testified that there was a great deal of wood on the line of the projected railway, especially at Single ton. There were often great falls of wood there, but the inhabitants experienced such diffic ilty in getting the timber down to the water side that they could dispose of none but that of the very finest quality, and he thought the carriage by the projected lino would be reduced by a third. The quantity of timber ins Singleton Forest was very great, and it had been suffered to accumulate in consequence of the difficulty of getting it away'. Botley was a place of considerable trade from its standing on an arm of the Southampton-road, and the inhabitants of that place bought very largely in corn at Chichester market. One of his neighbours bought, dur ing the year 1844, 1,273 quarters of wheat, and up to the present time during this year 890 half quarters, making in less than 18 months a total of 2,163 half quarters. This corn had been trans ported by coasting vessels, at the rate of 7s. Bd. a load of five quarters. By the proposed railway it would be conveyed at 6s. a load, thus saving Is. Ed. a load, besides avoiding the risk and delay, as it would be brought safely in about four hours. The butchers of Southampton were all in the habit of attending Cliches. ter market, and occasionally Petersfield market. He knew the float ing bridge over the Itchin, and he believed that considerable in jury to the cattle was done by their being driven together in their progress to and upon the bridge ; but he saw no difficulty in carry ing cattle over by the bridge ins vans, He had himself sent great numbers of cattle by railway to London, and had never had any injured. Mr. M'Cheane, an Irish provision merchant at Portsea, stated that there was a great importation of provisions from Waterford, Lime rick, and Cork. The Limerick provisions were always landed at Portsmouth, because the vessels from the former place were too large to get up to Chichester. He had a considerable trade with Chichester, Petworth, Guildford, and all that part of the country; and he thought that the business would be much increased if there was a railway communication with the north. Provisions were sent as far as Salisbury from both Portsmouth and Southampton. With Petersfield he had no intercourse whatever. There was a great trade in provisions throughout the whole of that country, and he thought that Guildford Railway would answer all t,,e requirements of the neighbourhood, while the other decidedly would not meet the necessity of the case. Mr. Henry Clarke, a merchant at Fareham, confirmed the testi mony of the previous witnesses respecting the traffic. The only additional point in his evidence was that the carriage to Botley would be considerably less than had been stated by Mr. Warner. 'Fire price of the carriage would be only 4s. 4d., instead of 6s. a load for cern. The price was 2d. a ton per mile and the distance was 23 miles. The saving consequently would be 3s. 4d. instead of only Is. Bd. a load. Mr. henry Snooke, a merchant and miller at Bedampton, which is a mile to the west of Havant, on the line to Fareham, said that he was in the habit of attending most of the markets around, and he conceived that the Guildford and Chichester line would certainly affind the best accommodation to the district. Mr. Hitkin, who farmed about 1,000 acres about half way be tween Midhuret and Chichester, was next called into the box, but his evidence, which contained no fact, was by no means favourable to the promoters of the scheme, in consequence, as it afterwards appeared of the line passing through his farm, and that circum stance be conceived was a disadvantage more than equivalent to any benefit he was likely to derive from the railway. The Committee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. Group R. DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY. The Committee met to-day at the usual hour, Mr. Gibson Craig in the chair, and after agreeing to the remaining clauses of the Dublin and Drogheda Bill, instructed the Chairman to report it to the House. DUBLIN AND BELFAST JUNCTION RAILWAY. The evidence in favour of this line was then resumed. Dr. Bennett was examined respecting the traffic of Kells and its neighbourhood, which in agricultural produce he represented to be very great. The inhabitants were generally in favour of this line. No material point was elicited in the cross-examination of this witness, beyond an answer to a question, which excited considerable merriment in the Committee—that the parish priest of Kells, the Rev. Mr. M'Avoy, had spoken publicly in favour of the line from Enniskillen to Dublin, through Kells, on the ground that lie would be enabled to go up and see how the proceedings of Parlia maid were going on when the union was repealed. Mr. Russell, of Dundalk, examined—Ho was a distiller. The trade of Dundalk was considerable with America, the Baltic, Eng land, and Scotland. There was a great trade in agriculural pro duce between the interior of the country and Dundalk. Mr. Shillington, of Portadown, said the district through which the line was proposed to be taken was a very populous one. There was a very large Weekly market at Tenderagee, near to which the railway approached. Banbridge was also on the line, and was an important seat of the linen trade, so also was Guildford, at which there was a large linen tnanufac. tory that did business to the amount of 80,000/. Jn a circle of about seven miles around Portadown, the annual value of the linen-trade, he thought, might be about 1,000,0004 The quantity of grain annually sold in Portadown was 10,000 tons, wheat principally. Of pork there was sold 1,040 tons ; of butter, eggs, and beef there was sold 500 tons. The value of cattle and pigs sold was 60,0001. The quantity of yarn brought into Portadown and its neighbourhood to be wove was about 2,500 tons. There were about forty or fifty corn and flax mills around Portadown, principally along the line of railway, There were about eleven or twelve stages running from the town to the adjoining towns. Mr. BELLEW, M.P. for the county of Louth, said that the railway would be of the greatest benefit to the district, by connecting the interior with England and Scotland. He thought the coast line far superior to the interior lines proposed. Mr. Gorten, who resided between Dundalk and Newry, deposed that twelve public conveyances passed his door d a il y, and a vast number of posting and private carriages. It was generally belie ve d that the railway would be of the greatest benefit to the district. Sir John M'Nielle, engineer of the line, was examined. The line went through the busiest and most important district in the north of Ireland, opening up the whole interior t o th e different ports that were in regular communication with England and Scotland The remainder of the evidence, till the rising of the Committee. was as to the general advantages of the line, which h e s t ate d at some ti.~.,y w ~ . .. _ ~: Group V. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) On the public being admitted, it was stated that the Committee had decided against receiving evidence on the Sheffield :and Lin. colnshire line. Mr. Fowler was then re-examined as regarded the actual plan laid down by the promoters of the Newark and Sheffield Railway. He thought the mode of junction with the Midl an d R a il way at Chesterfield, as proposed by Mr. Gibbs, was very defecctive. Mr. Maclean, C. E , had surveyed the line laid down by the pro moters, and he was decidedly of opinion that the line selected by them was a very objectisnable one. The curves and gradients were very objectionab - e. He had laid out another line, which was greatly preferable, and would save i n distance at least I mile and 38 chains. By his amended line the train on the Newark and Sheffield Line would be seen from the Midland Line at two miles distance. By the promoters line it co u ld on l y b e seen at a distance of a quarter of a mile. His curves were better and his gradients less otiectionable. His:amended line had met the approbation of the Duke of Devonshire's agent, M r. C urrie, as it passed the avenue of Hardwick Park by a tunnel, and could not, therefore, by any possibility, be seen from the mansion_ house or the grounds. His line would present less engineering difficulties than the other, it would give greater facility to the coal traffic, and would be less expensive than the other. Mr. Walker, civil engineer, had gone over th e li ne of country which was to be the scene of this railway project, and he decidedly thought that Mr. Maclean's line was a better one. He thought there could be no question that it was superior, as it was a mile and a half shorter, and seventy-seven feet lower in the summ i t level. At four, the Committee adjourned till to. morrow. Group X. LONDON AND YORK LINE. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) Mr. John Boys, cross-examined—Did not include any town south of Huntingdon. _ _ To Mr. Comma - NE—The London and York agents told witness what towns to select.—(Laughter.) The London and York line from Manchester to Norwich would oblige passengers to pass :brough three diffeient companies. Mr. Samuel Jackson, of Boston, had been many years in busi ness in the manufacture of steel and iron. There was a good deal of goods sent from Sheffield to the east and north of Lincolnshire. The proposed London and York line would facilitate that inter course, and the expense of carriage would be materially lessened. Within the last few days the freight of goods from Sheffield to Hull had been reduced to 9s. per ton. Cross-examined—The converting coal, a quantity of which was consumed in Sheffield, was brought from near Elseter. Mr. Ash, eorn.factor, tit Wakefield, deposed that the greater part of the corn brought to that town came from Lincolnshire and Norfolk. Is of opinion that all the corn sent from Lincolnshire to Wakefield would be sent by the Londe n and York line. A machine was then produced, by which a record was kept of all persons passing on the railroad between London and Birming ham, and that a similar return could be made on the proposed line. Mr. Becket Dennison, M.P. for the West Riding of York shire, deposed as to the agreement entered into between the pro. posed Company and the Fordyke and Witham Navigation Com panies. Mr. DARBY, Member of the Committee, asked the witness some questions resree.ting the nature of the agreement, when he was interrupted by Mr. BARING WALL, another Member of the Committee, who said he objected to the witnesses being interrupted in this way while in the hands of ConnFel, Mr. DARBY said he conceived the evidence to be irregular, and would take the sense of the Committee as to whether such evidence should be given. Mr. PAGET said he would give up the questions. The room was then cleared, and after an absence of about twenty minutes the parties were admitted, and The CHAIRMAN said the Committee had agreed agreed not to admit irrelevant evidence, though they were very unwilling to interrupt counsel, or not to afford them any facility. But this was a very important case, and therefore the evi dence should be as direct as possible. On those grounds the Committee would omit from their minutes whatever portion of evidence they had taken that had an individual applica. tion, and would only take that of a general character. Mr. Dennison's examination was then resumed. He said the agreement in question between the London and York Company and the Fordyke and Witham Navigation Companies was entered into with a view to the deduction of the tolls and the accommoda tion of the public. Copies of the agreement were then handed in. Witness continued to give evidence as to the facilities which the proposed line would give for the transit of coals, and bringing the Durham coal into competition with that of Yorkshire. The Committee adjourned at half_past four o'clock. Group N. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition. ) The Learned Gentleman then went into detail respecting the estimates of Captain M. ern, C.E , and of Jr. Whitley, a sur veyor, for the con s t ruct i on of th . , w h o le of the line, and to the evidence of M r. Brunel, and conclude d b y contendin g that those estim a t es were deficient for i ts prope r con struction with safety to the public and with econom y ; an d th a t the Committee could not report in favour of the proposition. He called upon them to suspend their j udgmen t until they had gone inlo the Cornwall and S outh Devon. The CHAIRMAN, after consulting with the other Hon. Membets, said it might be as well to announce that the Committee would de fer their decision on the West Cornwall, until they had heard the Cornwall. Mr. Avs'rlN said a petition, bearing the seal of the Hayle Corn. pany, would be presented to the House to.night, in the event of there being a House. _ _ It was then agreed that Mr. Austin should open the Cornwall to. morrow morning. Group F. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) LONDON, WORCESTER, AND SOUTH STAFFORDSHIRE RAILWAY. Examination of Mr. Matthews, continued by Mr. KINGLAKE.— The proposed Great Western line would open up some most important mining districts in South Staffordshire, by that line the coal owners of Staffordshire would not only be able to compete with the Leicester district, which is an important place for coal consumption, but they would be able also to send a considerable quantity to the west end of London at a mo derate charge to the consumer. In witness's district there were 15,370 tons of coals made up annually. Out of this 12,540 tons would go by the Oxford or Great Western line, and only 2,830 tons by the London and Birmingham line. The charges by the London and Birmingham line had be so high that it was but little used by the iron and coal masters of Staffordshire, but the moment . they saw the prospectus of the Great Western line they offered to carry coals at Id. per ton. The witness was briefly cross-examined, after which Dr. Har. rington of Oxford was called, and the Committee adjourned till twelve e'clock to-morrow. TATTERSAU'S. - THIS EVENING. Six o'CLocx. DERBY. 5 to 2 agst Idas 7 to 1 agst Weatherbit 7 to 1 agst Alarm 16 to 1 agst The Libel 20 to 1 agst Pantasa 20 to 1 agst Doleful 30 to 1 agst Old England 40 to 1 agst Clear-the - Way 40 to 1 agst Jinglepot 40 to 1 agst Columbus 50 to 1 agst Titmouse 50 to 1 ngst Fuzbos 50 to 1 agst Merry Mon arch .00 to 1 agst Young Eclipse OAKS. 6 to 1 agst Lancashire Witch 6 to 1 agst Lady Wildair MPERIAL PARLIAMENT (THIS EVENING.) CO MMONS. At Four o'clock there or not F being 40 Members present, .e House adjourned. HOUSE OF LORDS. Their Lordships met at Four o'clock. Petitions against the grant to Maynooth were pre sented by the Earl of Harewood, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Bishop of Cashel, the Bishop of Glou cester, Lord Abinger, and Lord Ashburton. Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented numerous petitions from' places in Wales against intemperance. THE PUBLIC MUSEUMS BILL. On the motion of the Duke of BUCCEUCH the Public Museums Bill was read a second time. Tho Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition from the Presbyterians of Lancashire and Cheshire in favour of the grant to Maynooth. - _ ~ ,~.._ • !.:r7r• • - length to be superior to any of the competing lines. It was arranged that the engineering evidence should be gone into to. morrow.—The Committee rose at four o'clock. Group DD. GLASGOW, DUMFRIES, AND CARLISLE RAILWAY. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) Mr. Pine, flax manufacturer at Aberdeen, said hist goods were principally sent to Manchester and London, and also to other places, and he considered the Hawick line would be the most convenient for the transmission of his manufactures. Sir Thomas Phillips called Mr. Reever, of the Post-office, at Glasgow. He was of opinion that so far as post. office arrangements were concerned, two lines would afford greater facilities than one, especially as regarded the Hawick line. The proposed lines passed through highly populous districts, and were important en that account. Certginty in the conveyance of the mails was very essential, and, in fact, preferable to an increased speed without security in point of time. The districts in the neigh. bourhood of the Hawick line possess a considerably larger cor respondence than the towns lying on the Caledonian line. For the north of Scotland the nearest route from Edin burgh would be by way of Fife. lie considered the mere shortening of the line from Dumfries to Edinburgh was not of so great importance, as the making of the Hawick Mr. Reeves was then called, but his evidence was only locally important. The CHAIRMASe, at the conclusion of the examination of this witness, stated that it was the intention of the Committee to give their decision as to the merits of the competing companies, before they entered on the consideration of tile Clydesdale Junction Rail way. Mr. Gibbons, cattle salesman at Liverpool, was then called, and said he had dealt extensively in cattle fur several years past. The principal trade was obtained from Inverness and its neighbourhood, and the cattle were disposed of in Cumberland, Lancashire, and the northern pats of England. Considerable numbers were sent from Liverpool to London. The cattle brought into Liverpool travel to Carlisle, for the most part, on foot, and are conveyed from thence to Liverpool by railw.y. Mr. Miller was called to clear up a point on which the Committee had some doubt. He said, that at a meeting in the Merchants' Hall, at Edinburgh, it hat been publicly stated that it was not intended to carry the line beyond Hawick, and it was always dis tinctly understood that it would terminate at that place. But subse quently it had been determined to continue the railway on to Carlisle, The only reason that had induced the Edinburgh people to give their sanction to the Caledonian scheme, was the promise which had been held out to them of a plentiful supply of water. Mr. AP-Adam, farmer, in Kirkcudbright said, that the average number of cattle transmitted from the district of which he was cog nizant was about 19,000 annually, the value of which might be esti mated at 200,0001. He considered that from the advantages which the Dumfries Railway would offer, he could afford to pay Id. per head per mile extra for the transmission of the cattle to Edinburgh. The Dumfries line was far preferable to the Caledonian. He was distinctly of opinion that the fat and half fatted cattle would go by railway, but the lean animals he thought would be driven in order to afford facilities for feeding. The expense of the present transit of cattle from Dumfries into Norfolk averaged rom 20s. to 30s. per head, and he had no doubt that to dealers would not object to make a sacrifice of a penny per head per mile extra for the convenience of having them con veyed by railway, as by that means of transmission the beasts would arrive in a better conditiod at their destined market, and realise a larger profit. The examination of the witnesses generally to-day was not of theslightest public importance. At the close of the depositions of the last mentioned witness the Committee adjourned till half past eleven to-morrow. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition to the same 'effect from the corporation of the mystery of Fish mongers.—(Laughter.) That body was not only most respectable but most hospitable.— (Great laughter.) They had large estates in Ireland, and they were the best landlords in that country._ CHARITABLE - TRUSTS BILL. Petitions were presented from the Corporetion of Cork and'several other of the incorporated companies of London, praying for exemption for the operation of the Charitable Trusts Bill. The Earl of WINCHELSEA thought that he should not do justice to his own feelings if he did not bear his testimony to the excellent manner in which the funds of these companies were managed, and he thought that no evil could possibly arise from exempting them from the operation of this Bill. The Duke of CLEVELAND wished to ask a question of the noble Lord on the Woolsack, with respect to this Bill. It was not generally understood that institutions were to be exempt, and which were to be included under the power of this Bill. The several public schools of the country, for instance, were they to be exempt. There was Westminster, and, still more, Christ's Hospital, which was the most wealthy endow ment in the whole country, and the first amongst them. Ever since the 22d or 231 of George 111., this Hospital had been governed by a president, treasurer, and several managers of its own. No property could have been better managed than theirs, and they naturally felt a latle jealoug at being interfered with—was this school to be affected by the 8.11 ? The LORD CHANCELLOR—I will answer the question when I introduce the Bill. MAYNOOTH. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE and Lard BROUGIIAM presented petitions against the grant to Maynooth; and the latter Noble Lord one in favour of it, from Laun ceston. CONDEMNED SERMON. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE took the opportu nity of stating, that since the subject of admitting the public to be present at the condemned serin'n had been mooted, he had made inquiries respecing the matter, and he was 111 - .ppy to say that the sheriffs were entirely without blame in the admis sion of the public to see Rocker the day before his execution. It was the custom, and the Sheriffs had merely followed the plan of their predecssors. He must however, at the same time, say that the practice of allow ing strangers to bz present to observe the deportment of an individual, at the very time when his whole energies should be directed to obtain spiritual improvement, - was highly improper. LEFT SITTING.) LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY). LONDON, MAY 22.—Wind northerly, fresh breeze, with passing clot ds. It blew hard last night, accompanied with rain. MARGATE, MAY 21.—Part of the mast, four spars, and a quantity of rigging, &c., have been brought in here from the wreck of the Jeane Lucille, sunk on the Long Sand. RAMSGATE, ➢iaY 21.—The Anna, of Blyth, from Fecamp to the north, in ballast, struck on the Goodwin Sand this morning, but came off without assistance or apparent damage, and bore up for the westward. The Fly, of Yarmouth, bound to the north, in ballast, is agiound on the Brake, but expected oft PORTSMOUTH, MAT 21.—Wind N.N.E. to N.N.W.—ShI. Prince Albert, New York. DEAL, MAY 21.-6 P.M, Wind N.N.E. fresh breeze.—Arrd. Monarchy, Robertson, China; M. donna, Miller, Colombo; High. bury, Walker, Jamaica ; Milsom, Bahia; Undaunted, Bahia for Hamburgh ; Venerable, Martin, St. Andrew's, New Brunswick. Sld. Sea Lark, China. LIVERPOOL; MAY 21.—Wlnd N.E., moderate.—Arrd. Madras, Badger, Ichaboe ; Bebe, China ; and Anne, Jeffrey, New Orleans. Ski. Mary Ann, Sydney ; Alice, Barbadoes ; Exeter, Ilayti ; Thomas and Severn, St. John's, New Brunswick. OFF CORK, MAY 16 . — Mountaineer, New Orleans. HARTLEPOOL, MAY 20.—The Dutch galliot Twee Cebroeders put In here yesterday, leaky, pumps choked, loss of sails, &c., and has been hauled ashore to be surveyed. Blowing a gale. COWES, MAY 21.—Arrd. Thomas Kidd, Clmssen, Batavia. DARTMOUTH, MAY 20.—Arrd. Lady Alice Lam!Aon, Altona for St. John's, Newfoundland, to examine her bottom, having been ashore. Orr, Victor, Rio for Hamburgh ; Lucy, New Orlems for Bremen. ST. IVES, MAY 20.—Arrd. Caroline, Jersey for Bristol, with loss of mast, sails, rigging, &c., in a squall last night off St. Agnes. CLYDE, MAY 20.—Arrd. Toronto, White, New York. Sid. Majestic, Montreal. CORK, MAY 19.—Arrd. Andrew White, Murray, rehaboe. GALWAY, MAY 18.—Arrd. Paella, Leggett, Trinidad. BELFAST, MAY 16.—S1d. Victoria and Josepha, Quebec. IdRIDLINGTON BAY, MAY 21.—A rrd. South Esk, lehaboe. GREENLAND FISHERY. Hula., MAY 21.—The Constantia, Graven, arrived here yesterday front Greenland, and reports the following up to April 22:—The Anne, Dean; with 9,000 seals ; Sarah Elizabeth, Willis, 4,000 seals ; Jane, Brown, 3,000 seals; Swallow, Lee, 2,600 seals ; Lord Gambier, Jackson, 1,200 seals ; Bon Accord, Lee, 1,200 seals. PIRATES IN THE MEDITERRANEAN. MESSINA, MAY 6.—The Rowena, Tregarth, arrived at this port, spoke the brig Garnett, of Hull, off Licata, the master of which reports having been chased, and attempted to be boarded, on the 21st ult., fifty miles west of Malta, by a schooner under Turkish colours, of about 250 tons, with painted ports, well armed, and manned, and a very fast sailer, which in attempting to board the brig, carried away her jib-boom, bowsprit, and the brig's maingaff, rnaiutopgallant-mast, &c. coax. ZWARIELET. Prices per ton at the close of the market :—Adair's Main, 14s Gd ; huddle's West Hartley, 17s Gd ; Ch ar l o tt e M a i n, 15s ; Chester Main, 15s ; Hastings' Hartley, I7s 6d ; Holywell Main, 168; Nelson's West Hartley-, 1686 d ; Old Ponlop, 14s; Ord's Redheugh, 14s ; Taylor's West Hartley, 16s 6d ; We s t Hartley, 17s ; We s t Wylam, 15s 3d ; Wyl am , 14s 6d ; Wall's end, Ililda, 15s 6d ; Killingworth, 153 9,1; Pott's, 14s ; •Bel moot, lis 3d ; Braddyll's Hetton, 18s ; East Hetton, 16s 3d ; Haswell, 18s Gd ; Iletton, 18s ; Latubton, 17s 9d ; Richmond, lis ; Heugh Hall, 16s Od ; Kelloe, 17s 3d ; Adelaide, lis 9d ; Barrett, 16s 6d ; Eden Hartlepool, 17s ; Evenwood, 15s ; Seymour Tees, 17s 3d ; Tees, 17s 6d ; Derwentwater Hartley, 16s; Hartley, 16s 6d ; Powell's Duffryn Steam, 22s.—Ships arrived, 44. THE FINSBURY DISPENSARY.— The annual dinner in celchratlon of the establishment of this old and excellent charity took place yesterday at the Albion Tavern, Eishopsgate-street. Lord J. Russell presided, but was obliged almost immediately after the re, moval of the table-cloth to retire, in order to attend the festival at the Fishmongers'-hall, and meet his Royal Highness Prince Albert. The Noble Lord's place was filled by the lion. Mr. 11. Russell. There were also present Mr. G. Ryng, M.P., Mr. W. 11. Whitbread, Mr. Pownall, Mr. Bodkin, M.P., Mr. Sheriff Hunter, and about fifty other gentlemen. Messrs. Robinson, Lloyd, Sporle, and Edney con ducted the musical arrangements. The company, as usual, testified their loyalty and good feeling towards the objects of the dispensary, by drinking the usual toasts. The healths of Mr. Eyng and of the Chairman were also drunk. The amount of subscriptions was an nounced at 2501. The report showed the dispensary to be in a flou rishing situation ; but at the same time urged the necessity of conti nuous efforts on the part of its patrons to meet the demands made by an increasing population upon its resources. The company separated shortly before eleven o'clock. RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) Group B. The Committee met this morning at the usual hour, and pro. ceeded with the LEEDS AND THIRSK LINK Mr. DEmom, on behalf of the Harrowgate Junction Company, applied for a warrant to compel the attendance of a Mr. Joseph Dawson, who was in town, but refused to attend. The CHAIRMAN (Mr. P. M. Stewart) said he would grant a Speaker's order, but he hoped the witness would be worth it, as it was rather an expensive proceeding. Mr. Winkham, banker at Knaresborough, was examined by Mr. BAINES—There is an extensive corn market at Knaresborough, which would be greatly benefited by the proposed line. There is an inexhaustible supply of limestone in the neighbourhood of Knaresborough, the greater part of which is burnt in the districts lying west of the Leeds and Thirsk line. The proposed Ripon and Collingbridge branch from the Great North of England would not be anything like an equally beneficial one to the district. Cross-examined by Mr. B. C. ROBINSON—Some of the districts west of the Leeds and Thirsk line are not very productive. Mr. T. Simpson, linen manufacturer and banker at Knares borough, stated that the trade of the town is not so good as for.. merly, owing to the absence of communication with Leeds. The cost of sending goods to Leeds is now 10s. per ton, which would be materially reduced if the proposed line was constructed. The price of gas in Knaresborough is 12s. 64. per 1,0001. cubic feet, and at Leeds only 6s. Sd. If a competition were to take place between the coal fields of Durham and the West Riding, the price of gas at Knaresborough would be much reduced. The Pilmoor line would do us no good at all. Mr. Hutchison, lead manufacturer at Pakeley-bridge, spoke to the benefit which would accrue to his neighbourhood by the pro posed line. Mr. Fisher, banker at Ripon, and Mr. Morton, agent to Miss Lawrance, also spoke to the anticipated benefit which would acerue to Ripon from the making of the Leeds and Thirsk line. John Nelson had been a carrier from Bassam to Leeds for 20 years. Seventeen men with carts were employed in the convey ance of butter, eggs, and cheese to Leeds. Believes that the proposed Leeds and Thirsk line would be far better than any other to the east. Mr. Mark Melburn, farmer at Thirsk, and Secretary to the Yorkshire Agricultural Society, examined by Mr. BAINES—Has calculated the number of cattle passing from Thirsk to Leeds. At Bedale there is a very Important fortnightly fair held, from which about 6,000 sheep and 1,820 cattle annually are sent to Leeds. Bedale is 7 miles from the Leeds and Thirsk line, and 15 )4 miles from the Pilmoor line. The country for three miles on each side of the Leeds and Thirsk line is one of the richest agricultural districts in the kingdom, especially for barley and sheep. About 40,000 quarters of barley are annually sent from those districts to the West Riding. The town of Thirsk is at present not on any line of railway, and will derive great conve nience from the proposed line. The North of England is in the hands of the Durham coalowners, which renders the coal trade from the south absolutely impossible. Coals are 2s. 6d. dearer at Thirsk than at York. The West Riding coal, which is very valuable, is now practically shut out of the market. The feelings of the inhabitants of Thirsk, with the exception of a few con nected with the North of England, are in favour of the proposed line. At a public meeting of the inhabitants held about six weeks since, an unanimous vote in favour of the Leeds and Thirsk line was passed. Cross-examined by Mr. DENISON—The public meeting was in favour of a line from Leeds to Thirsk. Before the Great North of England line was opened the price of coals at Thirsk ranged from 255. to 165., now they are about 121. 6d. Is not aware of any reason why, in the event of a Leeds and Thirsk line being made, the south coalowners could not compete with the north coalowners. Mr. Morton. recalled by Mr. BAINES—Was present at a public meeting at Ripon, on the 17th April, when the present scheme was unanimously preferred to the Pilmoor branch. Mr. S. Smith, butcher, and Government contractor at Leeds, examined—The conntry about Ripon and Ripley is a great grazing country, and a railway through the district would be of great advantage. Mr. Thomas Fountain, examined by Mr. names—Had compiled the traffic tables from the observations of fourteen days and nights. Calculated a revenue of 73,1131. from passengers, and 64,5051. from goods, making a total of 137,6181. 6s. 4d., from which 40 per cent. for working expenses being deducted, would leave a nett sum of 82,571/. 2s. 3d., which would pay a dividend of 81 per cent. on the capital. This witness was cross-examined by Mr. Sergeant BELLasrs and Mr. ROBINSON, but nothing of material importance was elicited. Mr. Thomas Grainger, civil engineer, at Edinburgh—. Has been engaged in many lines, and is engineer to the Leeds and Thirsk. Is quite satisfied that the present line is the best, taking into con. sideration the line as a link of communication to the north, the interest of the town of Leeds and the district. The line starts from Leeds, about 300 yards from the Commercial-buildings, in the b centreofthe e town. The West Riding Junction, Leeds and Dews ry,proposed line are all on the same level. Th e li ne proceeds and th eds to Hasford, where a branch Is proposed to the L ee d s and Bradford line. On the main line the most severe gradient is lin 100. The land between the V alley of the Aire and the Valley of the Wharf is the most difficult part of the undertaking. F rom the main line branches will run on either side to Knaresborough and gar. rowgate, joining at the same point. The city of Ripon is accommo. dated by a station close to the house, thereby placing it on the direct line. The whole length of the line to where it meets the Great North of England line is 88 miles 68 chains. A saving of distance of the Bradford traffic will be made to the extent of 231/2 miles b the Leeds and Thirsk line. A viad uc t w i ll be made over tho y of the Wharf, and a tunnel of 3,195 yards at Pann 1, h will be ventilated by fbur intern e ] s h a f ts. The curves :—"ie generally 4011 w favourable, the two Most severe ones having a radius of 30,_ and another of 20 yards, but being near stations they are not of any in convenience. The estimated expense of construction is 890,0001. Has estimated the working of the line at 35 per cent, on the gross income, and considered theallowance of 40 per cent, a very liberal one. It would be practicable to carry the line across to join the Lancaster and Carlisle line. The distance from Ripon to Thirsk by the proposed line is 10 miles 69 chains, and by the Pilmoor 18 miles 40 chains. From Ripon to Leeds, by the proposed line, the distance is 28 miles 50 chains, and by the other, 32 miles 16 chains. From Bradford to Thirsk the respective distances are 44 miles 11 chains, and 53 miles 18 chains. The Committee, at the close of the examination of this witness, adjourned until to-morrow (this day), COURT CIRCULAR. The Queen held a Council yesterday afternoon at Bucking ham Palace, for the reception of an address on the throne from the Corporation of the city of Dublin. The Lord Mayor of Dublin arrived at the Palace soon after two o'clock, accompani. d by the deputation from the Corpora tion, and attended by the Rev. Ralph Sadler, his chaplain, and Mr. T. J. Beasley, his secretary. His Lordship wore his state robe, witi, his splendid conic of S. S., and the large gold medal presented to the Corporation by his Majesty King Wil liam the Third. The deputation consisted of Alderman O'Brien, late Lord Mayor of Dublin • Town -Councillor Patrick O'B r i en ; Mr. Wm. Ford, town clerk ; Mr. Thomas L. Sumott, high consta ble; Mr. Thomas Reynolds, marshal; Mr. James Curran, mace-bearer; and Mr. Thomas Ackins, sword-bearer. The Lord Mayor and the deputation passed to the Green Drawing-room. Her Majesty being seated on her throne, having Prince Albert on her left, and the Duchess of Buc cleuch (Mistress of the Robes) and the Countess of Mount Edgrcumbe (Lady in Waiting) standing on her right, the doors of the Throne-room were opened. The Ministers and Officers of State, consisting of the Lord President of the Council, the Lord Privy Seal, the Com mander-in• Chief, the First Lord of the Treasury, the Secre taries for the Home and Foreign Departments, the First Lord of the Admiralty, the President of the Board of Control, the Chancellor of the Duchy of I.ancaster, the Chief Commissioner of the Woods and Forests, the Secretary at War, the Lord Steward, and the Master of the Horse. occupied their usual stations on either side of the throne. Her klajesty's Honour able Corps of Gentlemen-at-Arms lined the apartment, com manded by their Captain, Lord Forester. The Lord Chamberlain received the Lord Mayor at the en trance of the Throne-room, and conducted his Lordship and the deputation to her Majesty. The Hon. Frederick Byng and Sir William Martins, Gentlemen Ushers in Waiting, meow panied the deputation on each side. The Lord Mayor read the Address from the Corporation of the City of Dublin, relative to her Majesty visiting Ireland. Hit Lordship then advanced, and kneel ng near his Sovereign presented the Address. The Queen returned the following most gracious answer : " I receive with cordial satisfaction this loyal Address from the Corporation of Dublin. " I have ever been most anxious to consult the feelings, and to promote the happiness of my Irish subjects. " The wish which you express in gratifying terms, that I should visit Ireland, is an acceptable proof of the warm attachment of the citizens of Dublin to my person and Go vernment. " Whenever I may be enabled to receive in Iceland the promised welcome, I shall rely with confidence on the loyalty and affection of my faithful subjects." The Lord Mayor received from the Queen a copy of the address, and kneeling, had the honour to kiss hands. Alder man O'Brien (late Lord Mayor), and Town-Councillor Patrick O'Brien, had also the honour to kiss hands ; and the deputation th en re ti re d f rom the Royal presence withthe usual reverences. The Court was attended by the Marquis of Londonderry, Gold Stick in Waiting ; the Captain of the Yeomen Guard ; the Vice-Chamberlain ; the Treasurer of the Household; Lord Byron, Lord in Waiting; Hon. Captain Duncombe, Groom in Waiting; Hon. Sir Edward Butler, Lieutenant of the Hon. Corps of Gentlemen at Arms; Sir George Philip Lee, Lieu tenant of the Yeomen Guard; Lord Charles Wellesley, Equerry in Waiting to Prince Albert ; Mr. James Bunee Curling, Adjutant of the Hon. Corps of Gentlemen at Arms; Mr. Ellerthorp, Adjutant of the Yeomen Guard; Sir Benjamin Smith, C. S. ; Messrs. Byng and Gordon, Pages of Honour in Waiting. Sir Robert Peel had an audience of the Queen. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent visited her Ma jesty yesterday. His Royal Highness Prince Albert dined at Fishmongers' Hall, yesterday. His Royal Highness was attended by the Marquis of Exeter, Mr. George Edward Anson, Marquis of Granby, Captain Francis Seymour, and Colonel Wylde. The royal dinne r p ar t y at Buckingham Palace yesterday included her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, her Royal Highness the Duchess Stephanie of Baden, His Serene High ness Prince Edward of Saxe Weimar, the Marquis and Mar chioness of Douglas, the Earl of Liverpool, the Earl Delawarr, Baroness de Strumfeder, Sir George Cowper, and Baron Roth de Schreckenatein. The names of Sir George and Lady Lee and Lady Thesiger were omitted in the list of company at her Majesty's State Ball on Monday. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent visited her Ma jesty the Queen Dowager yesterday at Marlborough House. The Royal Duchess also visited the Grand Duchess Stephanie of Baden, at the Duke of Hamilton's residence, in Portman square. The Grand Duchess Stephanie of Baden visited the Duchess of Inverness yesterday at Kensington Palace. Lord Hatherton, Mr. Beckett, and a deputation, on the sub ject of the Canal Companies' Tolls and Carrying Bills, had an Interview with Sir George Clerk yesterday, at the office of the Board of Trade. Dispatches were received yesterday at the Colonial-office, from the Governor of Sierra Leone. The City Remembrancer and a deputation, respecting the Coal Act, had an interview with Sir George Clerk, at the Board of Trade, yesterday. YIPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 21. MAYNOOTH ENDOWMENT BILL— ADJOURNED DEBATE. Colonel VERNER presented several petitions against ;he Maynooth grant. Several other Hon. Members presenter petitions for and against the grant. Colonel VERNER then rose to resume the adjourned debate, but for some minutes the Honourable and Gal lant Gentleman was inaudible, in consequence of the noise occasioned by Honourable Members leaving the House. We understood the Honourable Gentleman to say, that nothing but an imperative sens. , of duty would have induced him to trespass upon the House on the present occasion. He had not prepared himself with a speech.—(Cheers.) He had heard of an officer, who said he would rather fight a battle than make a speech, and for his (Colonel Verner's) part, he would rather walk twenty miles than have to make a speech. The Right Hon. Baronet spoke in a tone of triumph of the silence of the great bulk of the Irish Protestants on this subject, but it did not arise from any indifference or friendly feeling towards the Bill, but from fear of danger and persecution. Again, many Protestants were ren dered apathetic by the mode in which these petitions had been treated in this House. Manufactories of chain armour had been established in Ireland for the use of the gentry, but these manufactories were not able to supply the increasing demands upon them. The Repeal party were allowed to meet and agitate, whilst the Protestants of the north of Ireland were placed under severe restrictions. —(gear.) The reason of the proceedings of the Presby terians of Belfast, according to the letter of Dr. Cook, was not because they objected to the grant, but that they were fully aware of the manner in which their petitions would be received in that House. A similar feeling was prevalent in Armagh. He would trouble the House with only one letter more, and it was from a Protestant clergyman. The Gallant Member then read the letter, which was in substance that the reason the writer alleged for the Protestants of Ire land not petitioning against the measure, was because they apprehended they would be treated with scorn and con tempt. He then continued by saying he hoped it would not appear that he had taken tOo much upon him self in saying that the Protestants of Ireland were not favourable to this measure. In all his experience as a Member of Parliament he never heard of a measure that had so little to recommend it as this. The argument used in its favour appeared to him to be this:—that for fifty years the Government had been doing wrong, and now they would do a greater wrong. He remembered when the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government proposed a remedial measure for the then disturbed state of Ireland, he said that if that measure should not have the desired effect, he would comedown to this House and ask for additional powers. Let him (Col. Verner) ask had agitation in Ireland ceased since then ? He denied that it had ; on the contrary, con cession after concession had been made to Ireland without any effect. A more than sufficient concession had been made. As to those Honourable Gentle. men who believed the doctrines taught at Maynooth, he could only say he did not understand what they meant by the extension of a belief in such doctrines, when they were to be supported and propogated at the expense of those who differed from them. lie would very much regret to introduce into the House his opinion to influ ence it in any way, but he could not refrain from statint , that he thought it of more importance that the funds should be rather awarded for the propagation of pure Protestantism. than for the spread of the Roman Catho lic religion. There was one observation that be could not refrain from making, and that referred to some ob servations that had been made in the course of the de bate, which, in his opinion, tended to compromise a prin cipal feature of British feeling. He could not but think otherwise than that the present proposed measure had been wrung from the Ministry by fear, although it pained him much to say so. It' (the Maynooth measure was really to be wrung from Ministers, from the appre hension of what the repeal party would do in Ireland, he would tell them to place their trust in the wisdom and courage of Englishmen, and at once let a termination be put to their doubts. He warned them that this measure would not answer the result they desired, nor would it conciliate the repeal party of Ireland. Let them know what Ireland really wanted.—(Laughter.) Let the Government ascertain what would satisfy them.—(Continued laughter.) He could assure the Right Honourable Baronet that this measure wouhl not do so. He had told him so in the must direct terms, and he repeated again that this measure would not satify them. The Government had trifled session after session with that country. made .TbeL o h t a n d er m c a o d n e . concession after concession. They h cession this year, which would be followed by another and a greater. It was but right and proper that t h e House should know the worst, that theytsehowuilidoluendtheari stand what they had t o expect and h they had to expect, an d t h en they would be pr e p are d , as h fa a r p a p s en th a e f y ter c w ou a l r d ds. pos T si hy o b e ly be,r anything th a t m i ght Would have the o th f e p ci re o p v a e r r i n n m g themselves en tinitswisdom for any p d p t o o r t g u r n a i il t t y . after concession that mightbe incline Lord HARRY VANE could assure the House that he would confine his observationslt to as limit e d a coin sptaastse a sthePorsesaisbolne; lie fh e sa lt p n p ec ort e e s d s necessary in m a e a f s e u w re words n t g that he had received e several letters expoguiar;- . with him upon the vote which -"lii the previous given upon. he had Since that time thg in , ...- ° _ '. .,....ge of this Bill. great 0,3 to "" • ...ease of population had been so th" • ...quire an increase of the body who supplied .., spiritual necessities of I re l an d. H e should have thought that an increase to the incomes of those indivi duals who supplied that want would not be considered unreasonable. But he must confess that he cared not so much for that as for the principle of provitfing for the - religion of the majority of the people of Ahat country; ev , and he did think that if it had been so ebritrary_aa_ was represented to be to the sentinitmts .t.tlre - i people of England, they would have ha innustle repeated meetings at Exeter-hall to expres bhe of the people against it. The grant, hem diaress--- derived in his opinion great importance s Government hid itet vtatki ilieiSM way in whi c h her Majesty'ed in making the grant. Their mode of proceeding evi dently showed that there was to be a new policy pursued with respect to religion. Sir R. Inglis, and the Gentlemen who had acted with him, had endeavoured to fasten on her Majesty's Government last night, a disregard of the wishes of the people ; but he had found that the. dislike of the people of this country was rather to the source from which the means were to be derived, than to the purpose to which those means were to be applied. Ile had himself presented many petitions against this Bill, hut there was not one which did not dae II on that particular point. It seemed to him that there could be no grounds whatever for the objections raised by the Honourable Colonel who had just sat dowr, and the Right Honourable Baronet the Member for Oxford, and by the Recorder for the City of London. They at least were not opposed to ecclesi astical endowments They would have no objection to extend them, provided those extensions were made to the church to which they belonged.—(Hear, hear.) It did not seem to him, therefore, that that principle was founded on religious grounds. He could not under stand how lion. Members could imagine that Ireland could be governed successfully by the system of exciud • ing from the benefits of State Provision-, six mil/inns of people, ought of a population of eight millions. Ire had not heard the Hon. Gentleman state by w hat ether sys tem Ireland could be governed than that of concession. The lion. Member who had just spoken Ind said that concession after concession had been made, aryl yet there was no benefit derived. Wns he (Lord 11. Vane) to think that the Hon. Gentleman desired to govern Ire land be force ? lie would like to know whether that had not been tried—whetherithad not been unsuccessful, and nether on account of its non-success the Govern ment had been obliged to adopt the principle of con cession which ha I been so long recommended to th em ? There was one argument which he had heard, that cer tain parties, rather than consent to this measure, would concede repeal ; and they gave this reason, that they could never agree to endow a religion from which they so widely differed. But they should remember that while the doctrines of Roman Catholicism remained the principles of the great majority of the people of Ireland, this was the only mode by which justice could be ren dered an injured, and conciliation made to an exasperated, people. Deeming the proposition expedient, because it was just, he should give the Government, in their attempt to accomplish it, his most sincere and cordial support.—(Cheers.) Mr. COLQUHOUN would abstain from treating the question in a religious or polemical point of siew, as it had already been discussed in that form so ably, by the Right Hun. Baronet the Member for the University of Oxford, last night, although the dense and most legi mate feeling of the country decidedly was oppqsed to it on those grounds. But he would rather treat it as a question of State policy, and follow the Noble Lord who preceded him, in considering it in that light. The rea son why this petition had not been signed by more than nine clergymen was, because, as the Bishop of Cashel had stated to him, it had not been vent to him in time, before the nine clergymen who had signed it had un guardedly put it in the newspapers. —(Laughter.) He could not see that there was anything very ludicrous in that. His correspondent further stand that he had got another petition, signed in Dublin by over 260 Protestant clergymen, and that, in fact, the Protestant clergymen of Ireland were unanimously against it. If his Right Hon. Friend understood the position of Ireland as well as his friend the Recorder did, he would not be surprised at the Protestant clergy not coming forward upon occasions of this kind, because they dreaded being denounced by the Roman Catholic priests. He had received two letters, one of which was from the Rev. Mr. Pool, who lived in the County Tipperary, and the writer stated that in his parish there were eight Protestants upon whom mur derous assaults had been committed ; four of these had fallen victims, and two had been mutilated for life. This showed the state of alarm in which the Rev. Gen tleman lived. The other gentleman, whose letter he held in his hand, was a clergyman of the name of O'Grady, who lived near Castlecary. He st .ted that he and another clergyman had been attacked on their way to church. lie said he knew of nothing that he had done to give offence, except that he had been the means of converting two Roman Catholic f a mili es .— (Hear, hear, fr om Mr. Sergeant Murphy.) Did the Hon. Gentleman mean by that cheer that the people of Ireland were :n such a state of vassalage that they dared not change their religion if they pleased ?—(Checrs.) He would now briefly state his objections to this mea sure. When the Conservative party were in Opposition, the House must well recollect the position which they took with respect to Irish affairs. If that party wished to maintain a character for consistency, they ought to adhere to thos e p r i nc i p l es wh i ch they maintained when in Opposition. However strong the feeling of the lower classes of Protestants in Ireland against the Catholics, he thought that the feeling amongst the better classes had been much modified. As far as the Roman Catho lics were concerned, he believed that the better party then in Ireland had a desire to put a stop to that agita tion which was at present existing in that coun try, and which, prevented the introdr.ction of capital into Ireland. If the Goverrment would act on a straightforward principle, tlyey would have a strong Roman Catholic party upon o .leir side. The Go vernment, however, seem incline?, to conciliate the par ties which were now agitati.:ig Ireland. One party had a powerful organ caitiff, the Nation.. Its articles were full of vigour, fire, and animation, and he had read them with much P l 'asure. Indeed, they were so bell written, that it almost made one wish to be a" rebel to write such fiery language and to read such writing. This party, therefore, was a dangerous one, and it was most dane gerous to attempt to admit its claims. What had been the conduct of the Government in dealing with these parties in Ireland ? They brought in the Bequests Act last session, and no objection was to be raised to that mea sure, It had, however, been denounced by a large party in Ireland ; but it was applauded by the Young Ireland party, or the party represented by the .Nation. Mr. O'Connell, in Conciliation Hall, had said, that before he could give it his support he must have the imprimatur of the Catholic clergy. The .Nation contended that no reference was to be-made to the clergy. In this, how ever, the two parties were cordially agreed, namely, in the wish for the severance of England from Ireland. The Irish part of her Majesty's Government was not so strong as the English part of the Government, while it ought to have been the strongest. Tho Nation, or re publican party in Ireland, said this, and agitation of course sprang up. There was the agitation of the O'Connell party, and the agitation of the Nation party, both parties having one object—the severance of the two countries. Such was the state of the north of Ire land at the time of the monster meetings that the Under- Secretary for Ireland had declared his conviction that the peace of those districts was seriously threatened. A circumstance had been reported to him (the Under- Secretary) that a Roman Catholic and a Protestant who had been previously walking together in feelings of perfect amity, had then separated in jealous defiance; each went out at night armed, having his house 'oar ricaded, and lived in distrust, if not hatred, towards the other. His lion. Friend, Mr. Lucas, had felt that if the Irish Protestants rose in the north, the Roman Catholics in the south would be equally exaspe rated, and the peace of the country be endan gered. In that emergency he sought for powers to prevent a crisis which could only be followed by the most fatal consequences. Ho had applied for powers, but to whom ? Was it to the military Was it to the constabulary ? No, he entrusted the safety of Ireland to the Protestant Church, and to the crergy of that coun try.—(Hear, hear.) Ire besought them to use all their influence over the naturally irritated feelings of .their flocks ; they had, to their honour, adopted that course ; and to them, he feared not to avow, was owing the pre servation of the peace of Ireland.—(Cheers.) If such had been the course of the Protestant Church in Ireland, what had been the conduct of that House towards it ? (Hear, hear.) Why, when that Church approached the Government with a request—not asking for sordid emo lument, nor for increased revenues, but asking fur secu rity throughout the country, urging truly, " You have put down our Protestant associations, put down also repeal organisation; you have put down ottr Orange lodges, put down their monster meetings." And when they asked for a grant to their schools, as was accorded the English Dissenters, not wishing to put down the system of national education, though from its principles they conscientiously differed, but asking the House to give them, for the instruction of their 100,000 Protestant children the same as they freely bestowed on the 35,000 Roman Catholic children, what was the Right Hon. Baronet's reply?--(Cheers.) 'When the request was preferred by the meekest prelate on either Bench, dig.. nitied by noble blood, but better by Christian charity, more ennobling than the pro u d est li neage, his prayer was treated with indifference, ilit he might a l most say with neisy.—.) forsooth, this measure was proposed (H to pa ear cif And now, - y the pe o pl e of Ireland, to concili a t e , to affiliat e]—(llear, hear.) But what had its recepti on there already evinced ? The Nation of the 3d o f M ay last contained an article scoffing important section it represented—(hear, heac) and spurning it as a sop, and that was the feeling of the important Higgins, whom the Right lion. Baronet v, as authority, proofof hadthe workingspe_ken oeqiisi'llacilh)"l.sayier.a. Butof if quoting they a l I s , a a n n teda fond tern as the one now proposed, they had only to look at France, where the Monarch had been obliged to entreat the leader of the Opposition to extricate li . I te diffieulties which the Roman Catholic establishments had entailed. If such were the dance s ec attending a sys tem in a country where the Bisho r pa and clergy of the Roman Catholic Church were hominated by the Go vernment, and therefore fettered by tho obliga tions, and kept in submission to the yoke of their supporters, ss hat was to be - expected from establishmeots held under no eontroul ? The Parliament here had no such hold on the Church of Ireland, they possessed no veto in the nomination of their bishops, they could not degrade for misconduct, nor punish for resistance. Yet, with all these advan tages on the side of France, what was its position ? The Right Hon. Baronet, in 1838, in adopting the views of the Member for Selkirkshire, who, to his honour, had preferred ; Pr4leir!e to place, a somewhat more creditable c ourse th*::lanother Memb er , w h o h a d pre f erre d place to ner principle or reason—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear")—had talked of the progress, not of Popery—for ed from even escaping that word had been sacredly guard nor of the Roman the lips of the Right Hon. I3arone t t the Roman Catholics Catholics, but of that section ied o f to subordinate civil in Europe, wh(2 letustical rule.—(llear, hear.) government to F whether,ecafter the recent uxperienee He would ask him chstraits as that c3untry was of France, reduced to su ch by the ultra-mo ntane party—whether, a ft er scch ex- 4- r :'~, ~.