The Sun. — London, England, 1845-06-06 00:00:00

).1) , SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATT ERSALL'S—YESTERDAY. ute asiness closing was too slack to requi re more than a return of quotatio sack , THE ASCOT S TAICES-FIRST CLASS.-(MONDAY. 4to 1 agst Mr. Worley's Perkin Warbeck. 7 ZE AS COT STATES- . SECOND CLASS.-(MO 'WAY. 2 agst Mr. A. J o h nstone ' s Annandale—(taken.) TIIIE EMPEROR'S VASE AT ASCOT.-(THURSDAY.) 7 to o 4 agst M r. I rwin ' s Foig-a-ballagh--taken. a agst Mr. S a l v i n ' s Ali ce H awthorn—ta k en 5 5 10 1 agst Lord St an l ey ' s I thur i el. as t o agst Foig-a-ballagh winning the two Vases, and /30th ta alt his winning them and the Goodwood Cup.— Col • to to Colo Peel has intimated that lonian is not likely to w ho ;f o r ilenti awful Id in teresC oder' 1 2 0 t t o o 1 1 TUE ST. LEGER. agst Mr. A. Johnstone's Annandale—taken 20 , agst Mr. Gully's Old England—taken 4,1 14 I agst Mr. St. Paul's Mentor—taken "'to 1 agst Mr. Watt's The Baron—taken. 500 0 to 4.- TIIE DERBY. 2000 to 7 agst Lord Albemarle's Lot—taken , ken agst Mr. John Day's Camboules—taken q„..,_ 240 to 3-? 0 t,, ~a . agst Colonel Anson's Sombrero—taken 4 uoo i n - " 3 agst Duke of Richmond's Tug Net—taken '" 30 agst Mr. T. Powell's Holloway—taken. ETON ..1 .._ /.4,4""1uual festival attracted , as upon all former occasions, a Ne '"nbe r or d i stinguished families to Windsor anti Eton on id lule 7, thes soon as "absence" had been called at the college, the dsshe4 school, now amounting to between 700 ad 8 h m bet oe it. the Br° cas. Where the most admirable arrangements % 11 ,. Mae, under the superintendence of Luttrell (ma.) kly , 4 11 at fasts, for the accommodation of the numerous corn. L1140,:e assembled and the prevention of accidents. . itt I ,4fter .even O'clock, all the necessary preparations having bd iege, l " t ed, the three " upper" and four " lower boats" of the k ona 7ft for Surley Hall in the following order :- 11° 011bto n ch ,' 1° Dar —Luttrell (na.),captain.—Ethelstone,Richards, w ood mittrell (mi.), Hanbury (ma.), Dickson, Back, Greene, vietz:a. Shaw Stewart (steerer.) kittl,l7--Winter, second captain.—Sutherland, Buller, (steerer). ~ rince°ll44!t__), Leslie, Miller, (ma.), Bagshawe, La He w if f e o r r d d spenser, "IStie.,,E,...._Waies--Tremayne (ma.), captain.— st ssrer. -- uaYne (ni.), Bosanquet, Cook, Close, Morgan (ma.), It il , rit aliela.._ 1 ., 4 4ba 1t „,. Addington, captain.—Parker, Watkins, Caret, o h nad tto i; 4 n, 6 3'4, Gosden (ma.), Thompson, Markham (steerer). -40 ii, A, gut--Bunny, captain.—Evelyn, Marshall, Watson. t I letis - na , u d Lygon, Baillie, Mills (steerer). tt.), 11:Z..e11°Isell (ma.), captain.—Powys, ). 4 :: ( 04 ), Suth er l an d ( m i . ) , Stratton , Aitken 6. 8 t. 0, - „ e r• Miles (ma.), Po'tt, tt, Miles 7 .. 4P e110. "--11 °aid, captain .— Barnes, Battiscombe, M•Naugh es it",:Sail.), Walker, Oldfield, Ellison, Horne (steerer). 'Mt on i , rats were preceded by the band of the Royal Horse % 4 t , e i la their progress to " Old Surief." 1i t.... 4 %W . .. 41 dis tinguished personages whom we observed in i t e h tr e - vsil ‘ ,s the following :—The Earl of Rosalyn, Lord Brown Is/ithtel Btill' ta k , R, le, M.P., the Rev. Dr. Hawtrey, Lord Guern -11‘1,447.,."d Rev. Mr. Cust, Lord Braybrooke. Lord Bate. i t ,:e. Rev. Mr. Coleridge, Rev. Mr. Durnford, H Lord bert rik iL 4 t ß h . . l dr. Skinner . Rev. J. Wilder, .the Hon. Mr. e d r s - A,, - .. ti ' B erm, Mr. S. ' Wyndham, Sir J. Walsh, Dr. i% D i o R. "Plithi:it Rent, Rev. Mr. Bentley, Mr. S. Hankey, r. • '''' R. Harvey, Colonel Richardson, &c. the et ing Irs 81R , „ ____ ____ 4 CI HN RENNIE'S SECOND 1 0 1, 4 40 ,,5e c0n , . CONVERSAZIONE. O N ltes o i e " f the series of conversazione given by Sir % ope n, tool; President of the Institetion of Civil En ti,ses bars ern Place on Saturday evening, and was even I lts obie Sai erda u 3' and brilliantly attended than or. the pre lye and h e r It only requi7ed the presence of Lady te4end ered ti latly friends, as on the previous occasion, to It 1 4 def is one of the most brilliant reunions of the ius e l-.lli ,_ er enee, however, to the establhhed etiquette, . g_ ofth_guness Prince Albert being expected, we were de so: NI 7 Presence of the amiable hostess. -'', Is e " auditions and changes in the arrangement of the th e A w s orks of art had been made. We observed particu sladiedq C up ; a co:1 , of the Warwick Vase, in silver ; Lass se. iitoeyer and salver, by Cellini, from the collection v, b v l i s . &Inner and Hunt • a spirited figure of a grey kzbniinn7r. Thomas, whose group of St! George and 111 4 we noticed last week. and which being ~,., an , better lighted position, we were enabled to 1 1 7, 4 _el i n a i . lnlire portfolios of Scharf's interesting 11 1147Aish . Yeia ; Scanlan's characteristic sketches ill ,1 sir Jon!iners, &C. ; some very good sketches, W _ h_o Rennie, in Greece, in 1820; a miniature, 1," 410 a o f ar d , R.the Duchess of Richmond ; a 4 4 Pert I , lective lithotints of Cattermole's drawings It,taticl e P of Walker's Electrotype. From among L' s fera l wee wmst particularise the Ferraby Sluice, V ei g ti 01 s the .4t4 _ t . i ie. ached outlet of the Ancholme drainage, and a is ti:st detproposed works at Carrickfergus, where, by breakwaters, the run of the sea would iZed, while, by a projecting mole upon arches, ac .af , I°ll vro t dd lod et ea sels be afforded for the loading and unload eotteiishowin•,, theE oth these were by Sir John Rennie —a i , at L ei _Successful method of scupper nailing, kNn, R.ls p . rier, in 1826, at the suggestion of Captain ' N s? Ste h ; Rowan's antifrietion axles ; a beautiful Pat el.e.n!on's improved locomotive engine ; a series of th,spat:lniting the various stages of the manufacture of tthkl e on welded . iron tube ; a very extraordinary example 40 0), 1 1 I machinery was displayed by Mr. John Hick es %i to ta tb r il . s eMe masses of wrought iron, varying from two he tis eni :_e inches in thickness, from the centre of each of Ai it ' s hy ke " an Pleces of eight inches diameter had been punched I (i :i t ' klqesti s of the combined force of four hydraulic .. i‘lits w .1 1 ,R a presoire varying from 1,250 to 2,00.) tons. ...of% ° s een :" not permit the notice of the other models; tth: to kitie t close our notice without honourable mention ki t tti,, Ls r in which the supper arrangements were carried Ili,' sz e l2 . The entertainment was elegantly designed, 'slits c ation - did ample justice to Sir John's well-known rtio ti. l e, o e ' ~ ~:ed -4 Were exceedingly crowded, but among the dis- N I ; Of titors present we particularly recognised th e Zt 4 1 41110nd, the Marquis of Breadalbane, the 1 447 , 11:4 sd ale ! Rosse, Lincoln, and Dalhousie ; ' Lords I, l l ‘4 S itt.l llo , Campbell, James Stuart, M P., Lyt elN4 AcheNa lter ; the Bishop of Norwich, Lord Chief , I,.. r 7gen, , 1 , 1 tit ' General tieral Sir James Cockburn, Bart., M.P., B i ' Sy ,__° .°‘ Veaker of the House of Commons, Count ,k ; 11 , Ja te l o s A tdyng, Major-General Pasley, Captain Sir p ‘ ,alagellia ' r ,,ii,e2. ; Captain Sir George Back, R.N. ; l r ees IL". W„.`va, Bart., John Burgoyne. Bart., John ` Jam es G 4 1., e t t'llacott, John Guest, Bart., M.P., Charles teary Ei Pl . ey, L ° l l. Sir F. Cust, D. J. Norreys, Bart.. M.P., `'fl ee ill r i , ls . H ar t, W. B. Riddell, Bart., Charles Fellows, A Al e ''' T. T. De la Beebe, John Barrow, John 1 I s tlis, -- ',.nde, i Duckett, R. Schomburgh, Frederick Mad.. k katt, le.? xiVanstone, Mr. Hodgson, M.P., Mr. C. W. .F. 4, Al it., ii,7 1. • Ellice, M.P., Dr. Bowring, M.P., Mr. ~ , k, %rt: ', Alt--'. Gore, M.P., Mr. Botfield, M.P., Mr. Mac ,if ' ti.. 1 1.1.1 ). arneby, M.P. Mr. Johnstone, M.P., Mr. ...A. `i , 1 4 , Mr. Pendarves, M.P., Mr. Loch, M.P., ,n 4. , (1., oi l _ .. ,th.! P e ,FOriel, ' 1 , 41 . P., Mr. Ewart, M.P., Mr. Stuart, le; tie .No se i'endas, Shaw, Colquhoun, Sykes, and Jack- Vis e ; Alab r uekland, Von Buch. Lyon, Playfair, Ansted, r . ; It on ° Ask ew, Clarke, and Amsinck ; Doctors AN, izai ku l' e l. Mantel], Roget, Paris, Mayo, and Gran k:Nreeereser Gambier, Washington, R.N., Handcock, ,ileg o kr, W. O'Brien, R.N., Buller, Hosicen, . el, J, ;tenford, Messrs. J. Simpson, Locke, T. llit Iti, kt:liller, B. Cubitt, Giles, Lowe, Barry, iu l q,.,!ritifo n , s l g. Landseer, Bellin, F. Stone, Scanlan, (Zsr t neo, G u , Purges, Grainger, Smee, T. Grissell, Sop ileZa ' Par °°4 3', Planche, C. Stanfield, Bidder, Lough, ),..1%,,' Wi e k s i s t e ll iar, Tycho ing, Solly, Pluwden, Basevi, IL ait e eed G •q 1 4,, , Ma r d ', • Godwin, G. A'Beckett. Leech, J. ' T°oke° l .l°norz. Fairbairn, Bateman, Farey, Etty, t . alker, &c. &c. Pth . t ~.. "S TITUTION OF CIVIL 14, 1 44 it . . 1 0, EN GINEERS. JUNE 3. NII , rtp, er N RENNIE, President, in the chair. hto fr:the, Li,r:'d was On the Corrosion of Metals," by s li t% 4 rve an 1 1)001. The object of the communication h i Nt, 'lrat e ,' "rrimental proof of the fact, of water, ii liis . the w it cor n lt 1,: l low an c ommon salt, preserving, to a great k It, „at 4 " in es of oxidizable metals from corrosion, N i l tt ttil .". l ; Isat e ;:n of . air and water ; and also to show that a saline solution, does not act as kte, l ii i i e Zt ea r e `° t lltais . iin g without the aid of the oxygen of the !N i : ' or These positions were demonstrated by the A 'te sel eral 'N l ltte r t l Pore' - ose_rieti of very interesting experiments, ~ ,,i is e app L . f .on a chsimical . tendency, leav l i t n s g obt t a o in t ed. Glit wer e o f .to practice of the results h ent toe: q uant ?' given of some experiments made to Iti se ,elr eona ity of oxygen dissolved by water under i kti. abet th Sta " v . ; whence it was shown that brine, Ztk -4teseasaloitt.ie solutions, contain much less dissolved etsiNtwt 4,4 tire sl: v t a . e t t e e r rr a :1 , ne , by k hl _ ted t , ordinary water. The. discovery of this .c4 t l t ti s,; 4 4 , er . o f e to experiments on the application of brine The object of the last set of experi trial, the rates of corrosion of 'ks it e ,°!nts itte ,, ~ ea water, and saturated brine. The Ittg: e , leas ra ', Luat sea water corrodes the quiFkest, ca t op nist kie woly, and brine very much slower than either. lop tee tils f or was incidentally mentioned of the use of h i ').: kr t ; betwreserving ships' timbers, for which purposes .444. 7 1 1ae nt e i r ; the ribs of some of the North American n , kein n ,_ packed with rock-salt, and . the effect has Is 4 b,,,Ne s oe , 'sgeon s to the duration of the timber, without I lt l . sil'er e of b y marl f atenings, as would have been supposed. It the , `v• Gale (Glasgow) pointed out the ad kica 14, 1 tas et moveable jib crane for the purposes of build- Vlation, fated , to have been originally invented by ‘as ek teki: fros t ; ;:, / u _e Bell Rock Light-house; but in a c0rn ,40114411, With e ,':: It Stevenson (Edinburgh),. which . was tt . iuv ent rracts from the history of that light \ tlsc t iat th e t l ° was claimed by Mr. Stevenson. It li t lie I eai s t e , i 'lle was used very extensively, but that "ii . li e r etnedi e e " In its construction, for which the author lll'atlre th e s, Which he had applied successfully, and for ,: 41. jet, thenecessary details of calculation and drawings, LI, C4thl y awould be with difficulty comprehended. 0, ich, and took place, when Messrs. Freak Forster, 4 N e z.: 44 P Afars"b•aliLewin were elected as members ; and Lawford, G. Lawford, and W. B. 114 liZ s k.' r a t : e tc iat ee ' w • stn. w ) ,.\l'- . as announced to take place on Tuesday, E. .....z . . ... . . . ..., _....__ _ e. 741 lb Oct, the DP V, I Ois ''elet, 0/sDON.—Monti. Vidoeq, for many -, tt 'rri, 'ated is t, s o it.kro i al i, ~_ Chef de la Police de Suretc , ." in Paris, has, vl ' OF I, ltil ti Niry e , `ois country, opened an exhibition of rather an 15- t e.,, th t ' l.l co,,,i7tracter, at the Cosmorama in Regent-street. The pie!' V°, ti 4 ,• 4 t Di, °of several and rather heterogeneous materials. )01th,11 ''' :m 1 ' 44 try -`e Mons. Vidocq off rs to the public inspection , r tlent, Of - e • tk-'l4,..et,tre__ torture and nranaeles which were usea by bi r V i hip, t `Lth e iri u n of criminals, or against him w hen he was a o cor It.;'tti the " ' t hee of the French Government. In this de. , th e Atist,,lk'tkci t4.xhihition are also inclnded the different disguises C. i t , t11,,, ,, 1e ct5 . rir in order to effect the arrest of prisoners, and reti e 4!' ig horti that belon A 4 „„ on of „ g . ed . to persons famous for their f cr d imos. w. Si,: /„4:'‘er..,,,. the exhibition consists of a collection o ra O rt. s pti ‘st, rl , igp ii ,_ . urs r Ile ' a mong Which are several of the works of SV, 'ls :: Dai nt ? a butch artist of considerable merit, and a t th 4,C at lY of '4Bs Of the Byzantine, Italian, and Flemish ! eel Nt''lti t kirth, wh ich are extremely curious and interesting. ' l ' 1i,, t 4, 1 ors t€ , " of th exhibition will probably be thought by t ie k k 4 lk t iOb k i„ 'jitter the ta q th e ,- val fruit s greatest attractions. It is a collection of i ° ,e 1 11,1 1 4r),, tti 4 eg t jud 'is, executed with such perfection that it would t oe 't , bl r 3 t t t tt h ion. f "' of ho rticulture to distinguish them from the t ' , . li t t :. h y , all 41,Poature• This collection comprises 60 varieties, ils' ‘ l l .1) ,x,i,eareo,, :Pecimens. M. Vidoeq, who is now 72 years bit) i. ye ~hll)l„aitlsto,l,ears mere than 50, attends personally, ais . d o ' „ ' ~, i iio ion . . ivn!.visitors the different objects comprised in 11 't . 0 ...,i4!,ty 0 , 41 7._ 'sit to this singular collection will amply repay le ej tri '4 oq 4 4l ' I\r w ho take interest in subjects of this nature. 1, 6 1 ' ; 44 1 . ESILRII R AlLwAy.—Traffie for week e si rt oij ICI. i ',li d ; ---- Pas senger, ti01.,,,411; Parcels, 17/(4485'1 8 1 ' .(t isl I" , 0 i ndise 3037/. 1 ". P 4 1),2d..; m_ails,. k ''k k . 4, . 1 k 1 98 1 ,, Od. mere! a , ! li ` s rsi P NI 1 , id. • iu. Corresponding week of last year )ri 2 t . 4 i" ' t 'k l): t 'ri a 114 111,... ri i'lltittil:iik-4,..a0ht is n'till‘jon"lt thPeLsAi sick T•— T h e klil.,ttc: tre e 1 ~t Me back but h R o yal Albert Os /I re ,_"e ti list . . v She was . 9 ilk It k oth, er, th _. . , S SO 1 / 1 0 en y tisk , St f,...r. 4 :i:it it was thought that the remedy would be r : e' l " w m h m en end sh ed e `p - ` , a rt _ v Oat been laid up at Portsmouth ever since. ,oleA. vntertained whether she will ever recover the 14001 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 5. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. Several Noble Lords and Right Rev. Prelates presented petitions against the Maynooth grant. RAILWAY BILLS. A number of Railway Bills were brought up from the House of Commons. On the motion of Earl FORTESCUE, the Small Debts Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Mon. day next. The Marquis of NORMANBY presented a petition from the mayor and eorperation of Neweastle-upon-Tyne praying the House to adopt some sanatory regulations for large towns. THE NENr HOUSES - 0F PARLIAMENT. Lord BROUGHAM called attention to the crowded state of the House on the preceding evening, and complained of their Lordships being obliged to meet in a place by no means sufficiestly large to contain the whole of their number. He wished to ask the Noble Marquis aho took an interest in this matter whether he intended to renew his motion on the subject of the new Houses of Parliament ? The Alarquis of CLANRICARDE thought it highly unjust and improper that their Lordships should be compelled to continue longer in the present building. It was absolutely necessary that something should be done to urge on the com pletion of the new House, and this was not merely a matter of public convenience, but a matter appertaining really to the health of their Lordships.—( Hear, hear.) They ought, cer tainly, to have been in the new House before this time, and they most undoubtedly would have been, had proper attention been paid to the subject. They would long ago have been in the other House, had it not been that some hesitation had been felt about the best decorations and ornaments to be used in the House, which were properly introduced as subsidiary to the dignity of the place in which they assembled, but which ought to be entirely a matter of secondary consideration. In answer to the Noble and Learned Lord, he begged to state that it was his , ntention, whenever a favourable opportunity presented itself, to move the re-appointment of the Committee up stairs. —( Hear. ) The Marquis of NORMANBY wished to say a word or two on this subject. It was impossible to endure the sufferings to which they had been subjected for the last three nights, as well from the vitiated air produced by the imperfect way in which the House was ventilated, as from the sudden drafts on that side of the House. He had himself caught a cold a short time ago, which confined him to the house for nearly a week, and he could attribute it to no other cause than the drafts of that House. He hoped, therefore, that some means would be resorted to for the purpose of obtaining an assurance that these evil* would be remedied before the next session of Par liament. Lord CAMPBELL thought that it aas not creditable that these complaints, which had been reiterated so often, should be still unattended to. Lord BROUGHAM said it appeared to him that Mr. Barry did all but set that House at defiance. Mr. Barry conceived he had high protection in that House, but let him take care that he would not find himself mistaken. The LORD CHANCELLOR presented petitions against the imprisonment for small debts. Lord BROUGHAM said the wishes of the petitioners amounted to nothing more or less than this, that they should contract small debts, but never be asked to pay them, or forfeit their go ods for them, or be put in gaol for them. _-(Laughter.) He now begged to present a petition from a Noble Lord a Member of that House, in which the petitioner complained that a branch of the Nottingham railroad in the midland counties, proposed to pass through a part of his estate, would not only destroy his game preserves, but also render it impossib:e that any one could live comfortably in his house, on which he had recently expended 10,000/. He the efore appealed to their Lordships, having in vain sought justice elsewhere. He (Lord Brougham) begged to move that the petition be referred to the Committee. MA YNOOTH GRANT. The Earl of WINCHP..SEA presented twenty-five peti tions against the grant to Maynooth, from the following amongst other places :—Kent. Devonshire, Surrey, Dublin, Sussex, Buckinghamshire, Winchester, Stafford, York, Bles sington, Lincoln, Leicester, Devon, and Derby. While he was now on his legs he would beg to call attention to a matter somewhat personal to himself. He had heard it said that he had been reported to have said in that House that he had ac cused an Hon. Member of the other House of Parliament of having acted dishonestly or insidiously. (The Noble Lord was understood to allude to Mr. Gladstone) He (Lora Win . . chilsea) had not seen a report of his speech, but he scarcely thought it possible he could have used such words—(Cries of " No, no")—for, he believed, there lived not a more honour able or high-minded man than that Hon. Member.—( Hear. ) The Marquis of LONDONDERRY gave notice that he would ask a question on Monday next of the First Lord of the Admiraly, relative to the harbour of Donogliadee. • The Marquis of BRE DALBANE said he regretted to have heard the Noble Lord who closed the debate on the Maynooth Bill, say that the petitions against that measure should not be deemed indicative of the feeling of tke country, or looked upon as genuine. Lord STANLEY said his Noble Friend must be under some misapprehension as to what he had said. What he did say was, that many of those petitions had emanated from vari ous causes, and different expedients had been resorted to to get them up; but he did not say that he had not the highest re spect for tke petitioners.—( Hear. ) TRIAL BY JURY IN IRELAND. Lord CAMPBELL said he had a question to ask bis Noble Friend the Lord Chancellor in reference to the present state of trial by jury in Ireland. At present the state of the law in that respect was this, that the process of challenge to the array had been stopped, and no measure as a remedy had as yet been proposed. Now, he (Lord Campbell) would like to know if any such measure would be proposed before the close of the session, which was now waning fast. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he had more than once stated that the defect, of which his Noble and Learned Friend complained, should be rectified. In fact, he had a Bill pre pared, by which he proposed to supply the requisite remedy, and with the assistance of his Noble and Learned Friend he hoped to be able to introduce that Bill early in the next week. ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS CONSOLIDATION BILL. Lord CO TTENHAM moved the order of the day that their Lordships should go into Committee on the Ecclesiastical Courts Consolidation Bill. The Bishop of EXETER opposed the Bill. He denied that the State had any jurisdiction whatever in civil things, and therefore it could trot confer a power on any judge in reference to ecclesiastical matters which it did not itself possess. He therefore thought that if the Government valued the sup port of an important portion of her Majesty's subjects, they would not lend their sanction to that Bill. He concluded by moving that the Bill be committed that day six months. The LORD CHANCELLOR knew that many changes had been introduced in the Bill when it had been before the Committee ; but he was not aware till that moment from what source those alterations proceeded. As far as he was concerned he approved of the Bill in its original form. Lord BROUGHAM thought that there must have been some mistake in reference to the Bill. He did not know what the Judge Advocate had to do with the alterations that had been referred to. Lord COT TENHAM wondered that the Right Rev. Pre late should oppose a Bill which had been submitted to and sup ported by the Committee in 11336, of which he had been a Member. It was a Bill sanctioned by the Members of her Majesty's Government. It had been reported favourably of by the Committee, and had passed the second reading. The Bishop of EXETER explained, and said the Commit tee had been justified in all they had done. He was a member of the Committee, but at the same time he should have no ob jection to have a Select Committee appointed for further in quiry. The amendment was withdrawn. Lord ABINGER hoped that the Bill would never be al lowed to pass by their Lordships. The Bishop of SALISBURY thought that before such a measure were introduced those who sat on the bench which he occupied should have been consulted. He had been much sur prised, when down in the country, on reading an account of the second reading of the Bill. Ile had come down to the House prepared to suggestthe course which had been already proposed, namely, that the Bill should be referred to a Select Committee. He did not consider the change proposed respecting the Courts involved any essential principle in the character of the Church; it was merely a question of public convenience. Whether it was advisable to make that change he was not prepared to con tend: only he thought the onus lay with those who proposed the alteration. It was their duty to show that such a course was desirable. After a few words from Lords Brougham, Cottenham, and Campbell, it was agreed to refer the Bill to a Select Committee. CALICO PRINT WORKS. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH moved the third reading of he Calico Print Works Bill. Lord CAMPBELL suggested several alterations of a verbal nature in reference to the employment of married women in factories. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH said the Bill had met not only with the concurrence of Parliament, but with the sanc tion of the great manufacturers of the north, Mr. Cobden and others. The Bill was then read a third time. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. _ The Duke of BUCCLEUCH moved the adjournment of the House to Monday night. Lord BROUGHAM would decidedly oppose the motion. They could not afford to lose so much time, and the judicial business would be completely retarded. They had bees dancing attendance upon Mr. Barry, the architect, and now they were going to lose more time. It was a most extravagant proposition to move an adjournment of their Lordships' House on account of a ball in another quarter of the town. Nothing could be more absurd Lord WHARNCLIFFE had no objection whatever to their Lordships meeting to morrow. Lord BROUGHAM said the House would not be detained half an hour, and their Lordships might come down in full dress. He would be very happy to see his Noble Friend the President of the Council in the dress in which he understood he must appear at the Queen's .Ball, that of Lord Burleigh.— (Laughter. ) Their Lordships then adjourned till to-morrow, this day. HOUSE OF COMMONS. June 4. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before Four o'clock. Leave was given to several Committees on Railway Bills to sit until Five o'Clock. ELY AND HUNTINGDON RAILWAY BILL. The Ely and Huntingdon Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. GUILDFORD JUNCTION RAILWAY BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. sYmA. THE CHINESE RANSOM. Captain BERKELEY w:shed to know whether it was the intention of Government, after hoing rewarded the command ing officers for their services in China, still to withhold the distribution of prize -money from the soldiers who had served in the same war, contrary to the invariable practice where captures had been made, and whether the same course would be pursued with the soldiers who effected the capture of Sinde. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that the question of the Hon. and Gallant Member would lead the House to believe that Government were withholding prize money from those parties who were justly entitled to it, but in reality the fact was not so. There was no declaration of war made in China, and Government had therefore no prizes to distribute. Government had only received a sufficient amount of ransom as to indemnify her Majesty's subjects for the injury they had received at the hands of the Chinese Government, and reimburse the expense they had been put to in vindicating the right of British subjects in China. When Sir Henry Pot tinger went out to China, he aminted a number of public agents to take charge of all the property that fell into the hands of the British forces, and at the termination of the war Government thought it right that these parties should participate in the distribution of theransom money. Accordingly there had been two distributions, the first consisting of a sum of 160,0001. and the second of 255,0001. With regard to the second ques tion relating fo the Sinde affair, the subject had only been re cently brought under the consideration of the Treasury, and he was not in a position to give the Hon. Baronet an answer. He might however state that a communication was going for ward between the Treasury and the Board of Controul on this subject. TIIE S ON, LONDON, FRIDAY MORNING, JUNE 6, 1845. Dr, BOWIII NG gave notice that he would, to-morrow, ask a question from the Right Hon. Baronet relative to the destruction of property in Syria. In answer to a question from Mr. L ABOUCHERE, rela tive to the ma nufac:ure of spirits in the Channel islands, The CHAN CELLOR`of the EXCHEQUER replied that a practice had la.tely existed at the Custom-house of permitting plain spirits, T rade from British produce, to be introduced into this country ui ?on payment of the excise duty only, and with out being subj ect to the other Custom-house regulations. Now the importers of these plain spirits had laboured under the im pression that British brandy, manufactured from British pro duce, was p'ai :ed upon a similar footing, and accordingly large quantities of t hat article had been imported from Jereey, upon payment, only )f the excise duties. Government had allowed the spirits to pass into the hands of the retail d. aler, without imposing any additional duty on it, but notice had been given to the parties.. that this privilege could not be extended to any future import ations. 1 hese parties had applied to the Court of Queen a Ben ch for a mandamus to compel the Custom-house to pass the It randy, upon payment only of the excise duties, and the Court bait refused the application. It was, therefore, a settled point of law, that Jet sey had no more right to intro duce British Lrandy, free of customs duties, than either Ireland or Scotland. THE CORN LAWS. Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN, seeing the lion. Member for Galway in his place, wished to know whether it was his intention to proceed with his motion relative to the conduct of Members of the House on Tuesday next. The Hon. Member for Wol verhampton had a motion on the paper relating to the Corn Laws for the same evening, and it was important that no impediment should he thrown in its way. Sir VALENTINE BLAKE was understood to reply that he intended to withdraw his motion to enable that of the Hon. Member for Wolverhampton to come on. DON CARLOS. Lord JOHN MANNERS wished to know whether Govern. rnent had received any intimation from the Government of France of the abdication of Don Carlos, and whether they had made any represiintation to that power for the release of that illustrious prince. Sir ROBERT PEEL said, in answer to the question of the Noble Lord, he had to state that since the Noble Lord had intimated his intention to put this question, a communication had been received from the French Government, announcing the abdication of Dan Carlos in favour of his son. That communication was accompanied by an application from Don Carlos for passports to enable him to go to the Pyrennees for his health, and Government had thought it advisable to grant the request. CORNWALL RAILWAY. Sir J. Y. BULLER presented certain petitions against the Cornwall Railway, which were ordered to be referred to the Select Committee. STANDING ORDERS. Mr. GREENE brought up the report of the Standing Orders Committee ABERDEEN RAILWAY. Mr. F. BARING brought up the report of the Aberdeen Railway Committee. KENDAL AND WINDERMERE RAILWAY. The Kendal and Windermere Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. AGRICULTURAL BANK OF IRELAND. Mr. MORISON brought up the report on the Agricultural Bank of Ireland Bill. NEWCASTLE AND DARLINGTON RAILWAY BILL. On the order of the day for the further consideration of the report on the Newcastle and Darlington Railway Bill, Lord HOWICK called the attention of the House to the facts of the case. The Bill eliab:ed the Newcastle and Darlington Railway Company to purchase the Brandling Junction Railway. That purchase was not detrimental to the public, but it had taken place in September, and the Bill was brought forward in June to sanction it. Now, these purchases ought not to be effected before the House had sanctioned them. In this case no harm had been done, but this very company had recently effected a bargain and sale which would very much militate against the public interest. It was known that before long it would be necessary to have a direct line to York, which line would be iuueh interf ere d w i t h if t h e part i es i nteres t e d in keeping up the circuitous line to York were permitted to be come possessors of the independent line north of York. He thouzht those sales ought not to he permitted to take place un til Parliament or the Board of Trade should have had an oppor tunity of considering the terms agreed on. Sir G. CLERK admitted the importance of the subject to which the Noble Lord had directed the attention of the House; but it should be remembered that those bargains to which the Nuble Lord had alluded were merely preliminary, and that if they did not receive the sanction of the House, they were of no effect whatever. Mr. STUART WORTLEY—When they came to a sanc tion of that kind. he hoped the Parliament would interfere. Mr. L ABOUCHERE said that the Right Hon. Gentleman the Vice-President of the Board of Trade had expressed an opinion quite in coincidence with that of his Noble Friend. The same thing of which he had complained occurred in the Committees last year, and he thought that some means should be taken to obviate the loss which arose from the custom of amalgamation. After a few words from Mr. B. DENtsoN and Sir GEORGE STRICKLAND, Lord G. SOMERSET said, that if the House would look back to the railway Bills of former years, they would find that no power of leasing was given, and it was only of late years that this power had been obtainer!. There was no doubt that the system of leasing had worked well, and many railways had been brought into existence, and had proved great conveniences to the public, which would, if this power had not existed, never have been made. There was, therefore, not that objection to the plan which might at first sight appear. The amendments were then rut, when Mr. LIDDELL presented a petition from Mr. Brandling►, of the county of Northumberland, complaining that he had not had a fair hearing before the Committee, and requesting that a certain clause might be inserted for the government of the raih.vay in the neighbourhood of his property. This gentle man was a constituent of his, anti he felt it so just a case, that he should move that the petition be referred to the Standing Orders Committee. After a few words from Lord WORSLEY on this motion, the petition was referred accordingly. NEWCASTLE AND BERWICK RAILWAY. On the motion that the Newcastle and Berwick Railway Bill be read a second time, Mr. MORISON suggested that a clause should be intro duced into all railway Bills for the modification of the charge for tolls on the several classes of passengers. Lord WORSLEY said, that having been chairman of the Committee on this Bill, he had given it his closest attention. The Committee had spent something like an hour and half to two hours on this very point, and they had not found that any Bill had been passed to which the toll had been less than that stated in the clauses of the Bill, and he did not think that any less charge would be remunerative. Mr. LABOUCHERE said that there was one clause to which his attention had been particularly drawn. It provided that the provisional Committee should appoint two directors, but did not say whether they should be shareholders or not. He wished to know on what grounds these directors were to be appointed. Lord WORSLEY said that the attention of the Committee had likewise been drawn to this circumstance, and they had searched for a precedent, and had found that a Bill had been passed in which the Duke of Northumberland was interested, with a similar clause, and they had consequently been relieved from all difficulty respecting the clause. The Bill w as then read a second time. The reports of the railway Committees were then brought up on the Preston and Wyre Railway, the Blackburn and Preston, and the London and Enniskillen Railway. RUNCORN RAILWAY. Mr. OSBORNE presented a petition against the Bill, which was ordered to be referred to the Committee of Standing Orders. EDINBURGH AND GLASGOW RAILWAY. This Bill wa. read a third time and passed. WEST LONDON RAILWAY. Mr. BAILEY presented a petition from Chertsey against the West London Warty Bill. TO TTENHAM AND FARRINGDON-STREET JUNCTION RAILWAY. Mr. MACKINNON moved that the petition of James Taylor, Esq., against this railway Bill, be referred to the Committee on the Bill, with liberty to be heard, by counsel, against the said Bill, which was agreed to. GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY (IRELAND). Mr. RASHLEIGH presented a petition against this Bill. LIVERPOOL AND BURY RAILWAY. Lord SANDON presented a petition from Liverpool, signed by 36,000 individuals, in favour of this railway. PRESSURE OF RAILWAY Bt,SINESS. Mr. L A BOUCHERE rose to bring forward his motion with respect to the railway business before Parliament. He regretted that the task had been left to him, and considered that it ought to have been brought forward by her Majesty's Government. The Right Hon. Gentleman the President of the Board of Trade said he thought that the course he pro posed would be a very proper one in a month or six weeks hence, but that he was not prepared un' it then to adopt any steps with reference to the quantity of railway business before Parliament. He (Mr. Labouchere ) entertained the opinion that the House would not perform its duty to the immense interests involved if they did not imme diately adopt some measures with regard to railways. The state of the railway business before the House at the pre sent period was notorious, and so many Hon. Gentlemen in that House were members of Committees, that it was alrftost wholly unnecessary to advert to it. He found on inquiry, that out of two hundred and forty-three railway projects introduced into the House at the commencement of the session, one hun dred and forty still remained to be disposed of. He was told that, besides the difficulty the House had in disposing of this pressure of business, they had another labour to undergo in consequence of the course which had been adopted with regard to the reports of the Railway Department of the Board of Trade —a course rendering it necessary for the Committees of the House to refer to them. Surely there ought to be no ad ditional delay and expense which the House could possibly avoid thrown in the way of the promoters of those schemes. It had been, he was informed, stated by a Learned Counsel to one of those Committees, that with regard to the plans on the group of railways, of which the London and York line was one, that no less a sum than 300,0001. had been expended on all the lines before that Committee. It was difficult to say what course ought new to be adopted, but one thing was certain, namely, that it would be impossible now to pass the remainder of those Bills in the present session of Par liament. It would be quite impossible, he repeated, to pass those Bills in the course of the present session through the other branch of the Legislature. Parties opposing the projects before Committees, it was well-known, sought to delay the pass ing of those lines in the hope that they might be continued beyond the session, and that the promoters should then in the next session give up their projects altogether, or commence their proceedings anew. That was a degree of injustice that he was sure that House would not willingly agree to. and he thought an efficacious mode of getting rid of the evil would be to place parties at the beginning of the next session in precisely the same position in which they stood at the end of the preceding one. They had two instances on record in which this course had been adopted. With this view, he had to move the two resolutions of which he had given notice, namely, that, inasmuch as, from the unusual number of railway Bills which have been introduced into this House during the present session of Parliament, and also from the delay which has been occasioned in the consideration of them, in conse quence of the reference of the reports of the Railway Depart ment of the Board of Trade to the Committees on these Bills, it may be impossible for many of them which shall have been reported to this House to be passed into laws during the present session, this House will adopt such measures in the next session as may appear best calculated to prevent the parties promoting such Bills from being subjected to any unnecessary expense or delay. That a Select Committee be appointed, to consider in what man. ner it may be expedient to carry this resolution into effect. He would. say, in conclusion, that if the Government would undertake measures to remedy this evil, he should withdraw his resolutions. Sir G. CLERK said the Government had turned their attention very anxiously to railway legislation, but he did not think the House could then with propriety come to any specific resolution on the subject, nor pledge itself to any particular line of conduct. The course proposed was without precedent, except under peculiar eh cumstances ; and, therefore, looking at the extreme difficulty which the question presented, he preferred referring the whole subject to the consideration of a Select Committee, who might recommend a course much more comprehensive and effectual than that which was recom mended in the resolution. He would, therefore, move, as an amendment, that a Select Committee be appointed to inquire into the several railway Bills, and re port what measures could be adopted to facilitate the passing of railway Bills through Parliament, and what course it might be most judicious to adopt in reference to railway Bills to be brought before the House during the next session. Riilway business had now increased to such an extent, that some systematic line of conduct must be pursued. The Right Hon. Baronet concluded by moving the amendment. Sir G. GREY seconded the amendment. Lord HO WICK supported the resolution of his Right Hon. Friend the Member for. Taunton, considering that an inquiry was absolutely necessary, not only for the convenience of parties promoting, but for the benefit of the dis tricts to be accommodated by, the railways. Lord G. SOMERSET who, from the excessive noise in the House, was almost inaudible in the gallery, was understood to oppose the resolution before the House, deeming it both inex pedient and premature. Sir G. GREY agreed in the views expressed by the Noble Lord who had just sat down. Sir R. PEEL thought that some assurance should be held out by the House to parties having Bills before it that something would be done to mitigate the evil arising from delaying the passing of railway Bills till next session. He concurred with the Right Honourable Gentleman, that the House ought to take the subject up. But he (Sir R. Peel) considered that a Committee should be ap pointed, in order to examine into the subject, and present a report before the House decided on any course. Before passing any resolution on the business under consideration, they ought to have the facts fully before them. It was desirable that parties should not be put to any vexatious delay, and he suggested to the Right Hon. Gentleman to alter his motion fur the appointment of a Committee. They ought to have all the details fully before them in the report of a Com mittee, before taking any step that might be taken in future as a precedent. - After a few words from Mr. F.IBARING. Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET made a few remarks, which did not reach the gallery. Mr. LA BOUCHERE said the Noble Lord was evidently alarmed at the facilities which he (Mr. Labouchere) proposed with regard to railway legislation. There was a material difference between the proposition of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir George Clerk) and that which he (Mr. Laboucht re) had ventured to propose. He thought if a well suggested measure were brought f orwar d b y her Majesty ' s Go vernment next session, that it would be likely to lead to the desired remits, and would obviate frequent discussions like that before the House. Mr. W. PATTEN thought that whatever course they took it would be most desirable that something should be brou . ght in during the present session.—( Hear, hear.) He considered that the difficulties which had occurred mainly arose from the neglect of the House with respect torailway business.—( Hear, hear.) Upwards of six weeks of the present session had been occupied in laying down rules for the management of the Com mittees, and a great deal of time was consumed before they clearly perceived the course which they ought to pursue. A hundred new railway Bills wore to be brought in next session, and unless a measure similar to that recommended were intro duced, they would be in a worse position next session than during the present. Sir R. PEEL said he acquiesced in the propriety of the su_g gestion made by the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite He thought it would be highly desirable to appoint a Committee to consider and frame rules with regard to the futere proceeding s of the House in the matter of railways. He did not s y thi s with a view o f relieving her Majesty's Government from any responsibility, but he thought with the Right Hon. Gentleman that it would be exceedingly desirable that a Committee should be appointed for the purpose referred to in the resolutions. M r . S. WORTLEY agreed with the Right Hon. Gentle man that some rules were absolutely necessary for the purpose of expediting the railway business of the country. Mr. W. COLLETT thought it was rather hard that the promoters of railway projects should be:required, first, to undergo the ordeal of the Board of "trade, and afterwards that of the Parliamentary Committees. He thought that this system should be amended. . Lord \VORSLEY hoped that a more effectual course would be taken on the subject, as great inconvenience hatl resulted to the public from the present state of thiogs. There were a great many railway Bills which, although connected with some of the most important towns in the north of England, and although there was little or no opposition to them, could not yet be passed through Parliament. The motion was withdrawn ; and the amendment carried. MERCHANT SEAMEN'S BILL. Mr. CURTEIS wished to know whether the Merchant Seamen's Bill might be postponed to another day ? Sir R. PEEL said that the Bill had been referred to a Se leet Committee, and the second reading would not take place to-night. _ _ LIEUTENANT COLLINS. Mr. ESCOTT asked whether the dismissal of Lieutenant Collins had met with the approbation of the Government, and whether they had inquired into the matter, and whether it was not competent for the Board of Control to interfere? Lord JOCELYN said that the Board of Control had ap proved of the sentence of the East India Company with re gard to the dismissal of Lieutenant Hollis, and they had no power to interfere in the matter. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. In answer to a question from Mr GIBSON, Sir R. PEEL replied that permission had been given for the Bill for the regulation of Lunatic Asylums to be brought forward to-night. Lord JOHN RUSSELL wished to ask the Secretary of State whether the third reading of the Irish Education Bill would be proceeded with on Monday next ? Sir J. GRAN A M said it could not be entertained on Mon day next, as the House was going into a Committee of Supply, but on Friday it was most probable the Bill would be read. Sir V. BLAKE said he would withdraw the motion of which he had given notice on Monday night. Lord WORSLEY inquired when the second reading of the Commons Inclosure Bill would take place ? Lord LINCOLN replied that he would fix the second read ing to be proceeded with on Thursday week. Lord CLEMENTS wished to know whether the inquiry of the Commissioners appointed to investigate the state of populous towns was intended to extend to Ireland. Sir 11. PEEL stated that the report of the Commissioners would enable the Government to take such salutary measures as would he applicable to the condition of all populous towns both in England and Ireland._ COUNTY RATES BILL. Sir J. Y. BULLER postponed the second reading of this Bill until Wednesday next. SMOKE PROHIBITION BILL. Mr. MACKINNON postponed his motion for going into Committee on this Bill until Wednesday. next. SCOTCH RANKING. On the order of the day being read fur the House going into Committee on this Bill, Mr. P. M. STEWART said he thought he should be guilty of a dereliction of duty if he did not express his decided disapprobation of the Bill which had been introduced by her Majesty's Government with respect to the banking establish ments of Scotland. He regretted that the Right Hon. Ba ronet, in endeavouring to better the condition of banking es tablishments of this country, should have touched those of Scotland, which were acknowledged to be the most perfect that existed ; and this then being the case, and being supported by the opinions of those mo s t competent to j u d ge , he thought it was the duty of every one conneeted with Scotland to express their disapprobation of the 13,11 before the House. The Scot tish system of banking had been held up by many eminent writers—flume among the number—as a model for the adop tion of other countries. After the 11. and 2/. notes had been abolished in England a motion for an iriviry into the Scottish banking system was made, and was resisted by all the most distinguished Scotch authorities in both Houses of Parliament at that period. Since then the system had not retrograded, but, on the contrary, had been greatly improved. The reports of the Committees of Commons and Lords, subsequently ap pointed to inquire into the subject, were to the effect, that no good could come front any interference with the monetary af , fairs of Scotland. The Right Hoaourable Baronet (Sir James Graham) in 1825 and 1826, in speaking of the currency of Scotland, said that if they had not interfered with the currency of 1793, the disasters which occurred during those years might have been in a great m easure aver!ed. He could not then conceive, when the banking syste m of that country was placed on a proper footing, why the Government desired to interfere with it, and he spoke the feelings of the people of Scotland when he said that they considered the measure a wanton inter ference with their currency. He could foresee one intention on the part of the Government, that their ultimate aim was the suppression of all local banks of issue, and the establishment of one national bank of issue. In 1840, a year of much depression ' in regard to monetary affairs, the circulation of the banks of Scotland was much higher than in 1838. Three banks in Glasgow, the Clydesdale, the City of Glasgow and Edinburgh, and the Glasgow Bank, had l a t e l y paid up a cap i ta l o f 3,000,000/. whereas the Bill would restrict their circulation to 300,0001. They had branches in many of the towns of Scotland, and the trade of that country was i n such a state th a t th ose bank s would require the wh o l e o f t h at capital. They must recollect that the provident banks were o f more i m p o rtance to the poor than to the rich man, as w h en t h e l arger banks limited their circulation far provident pu r p oses, t h e sma ller banks established in Scotland for similar p ur p oses comm admitted that the definition o f t h e c i rcu lation of Scotland set forth in the Bill was pe r f ec tly correct . The their T e heßiii, had e li i nfluence e c said, was uncalled for, and a i me d a t a n ad libitum n over the banking syst em o f S c otland.—( Hear. ) The Hon. Gentleman th en re f erre d t o a passage na m pamphlet written by Sir James Graham, advocating not only a free trade in corn, but in money, and opposing the interf e r ence o f the Government with the circulating medium. lie (Mr. P. r M. Stewart.) held that to be an excellent d octrine, and could it to the perusal of all interested in th e monetary affairs of the United Kingdom. Sir IL PEEL hoped the Hon. Gentleman would allow the Bill to go into Committee. in which its details would be dis cussed. In bringing it forward, the Government had fairly dealt with Scotland, and he regretted that the Hon. Gentleman had endeavoured to raise a prejudice against the Bill, and alarm at it, by stating that it was to be the forerunner of a single bank of issue in that country. He (Sir R. Peel) had never been in favour of establishing a single bank of issue in Scotland, a 3 he knew the difficulties in the way of such an es tablishment. The interviews which he had had with persons interested in Scotch banking, had made him fully aware that there would be a most vigorous opposition to a measure intended to effect such a change in their monetary system.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He wished to remove any apprehension on the part of the people of Scot land, by stating that the Government did not contemplate establishing a single bank of issue ; neither did they intend to bring forward any other measure than the one they had pro posed. It was clearly a case in which the whole country was concerned, and there seas a case of res inte9rce. As regarded the money to be advanced to the public, he thought that there ought to be some ground for th e p rinci ples on which the bank ing system should be conduc ted in Sco tland. He was awar e : and in E ng l an d , where it only ent erta i ne d respect that there was a great prejudic e in Sc otland in favour of th e system of paper issues and secu rit y cred it; but yet, even there, ihtnhagedrteihwe‘ev been s rtiel a iset eipdl,e doubt smou o f c f bh t a h rh di i k s oiun s bg y t: te m was not but also as to th e mo d e on which it ought to be conducted. He was not aware of the feeling which was said to be entertained in Scotland in favour of those accommodations that the public enjoyed, and he was rather in clined to think that the feeling of the public was against it than otherwise. A distrust must naturally exist in the minds of all who had property at stake, and unless they saw that there was perfect security for the money which they depo sited, they would of course be very chary of the amount which they contributed to what the Hon. Gentleman was pleased to consider the general benefit. There was not in his (Sir 11, Peel's) opinion anything to justify the assurance of the sound ness of the banks, simply because the paid-up capital of the banks was all deposited for thole trading. He indeed did not think that any paid-up capital could give that security which the public had a right to demand. Unless the director or the governor of the bank had a rower of converting their csireta into cash, there was no probability of the severo able to meet their engagements, This a principle well recognised in comiTierce, a•; . ii a feelin g h a d accordingly been engenderel id the commercial world against it. The Man chester Chamber of Commerce had indeed so decidedly expressed itself, that there was no doubt of I‘.,a course which would be pursued in all th , e kgVta ' w h ere This was h n i ) g ni h m a e u rc th ia o i ri t t r y a , n a s n an d ti en n tit w le e d re t.ri n , f tlii. a2: g ; re i rs L t a ct 6 dit ; and he thought that if a doubt liad been entertained at all upon the subject the safest plan would be to allow the claims of the whri l while they were unable to help themselves, reciuked and were entitled to the g reatest cgoiktleratio n . This perhaps could only be obtained by the nnie system which was pur sued in England, but yet ho felt that th ere h a d no t b een sufficient care taken to render the system even in England so perfect as it might be, The banks in England were ntst bound to a certain amount of issue except so far as the amount. of their capital might restrict them ; but he thought that in accordance with the principles winch had always regulated ;he people of Scotland they should have some other and further security. It was not sufficient that the people should have the assurance of the solvency-of their banks. but that they should also derive from them consistently with their security all the assurance which they derived from that quiet enjoyment of their property to which, from the Const.tution, they were entitled. lie therefore thought that the system which had been proposed was not only wise in itself, but judicious from the way in which it provided for the public benefit; and he trusted, in consideration of these reasons, that the Hon. Gen tleman would withdraw his opposition. Mr. HUME said that, in the restriction of the issues for Scotland he differed from the Right Hon. Baronet, toto em/o. That Scotland had flourished under the present system no one could pretend to doubt, and he thought the people of Scotland would be quite satisfied if they were left alone. They had been able to provide for the general benefit hitherto, and the feeling was decidedly, threughout the country, in favour of the system on which they felt that their prosperity had been grounded. If they were to adopt this system and continue it, they would save the country at least from 200.000/. to 300,0001. a year, and at the same time satisfy the feelings of the people at Scotland from one end to the other. Sir W. CLAY said that the system of Scotch currency could not exist if Scotland were an independent nation. But his ob jection to the measure of the Right Hon. Baronet was, that it attempted too much, for the impression in Scotland now was such, that it would be exceedingly dangerous to interfere with the small note circulation. —( Hear, hear. ) Mr. HAWES said that they must recollect that when the Bill was read the former time it was agreed to waive all discus sion until the next reading He was disposed to ask now what were the grounds on which they intended to introduce this measure to Scotland ? Had the success of the English Bill been such that they wished to extend its advantages to Scotland also ? ( Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet, in introducing the Bill, said they had every reason to be satisfied with the policy and justness of that measure. He (Mr. Hawes) did not see that the Bill of last year had proved that the expectations of the Right Hoe. Baronet had been well founded. He would a•ls again, if the polity of last year was such that the Right Hon. Baronet was justified in extending it to Scotland ? And here he could not help saying that the Scottish bankers had evinced a right and a proper spirit, and he only wished that the English bankers had evinced a like spirit when the measure relating to English banking was first intro duced by the Right lion. Baronet. It had been said by the Right Hon. Baronet that the banks had the power of issuing an alma t unlimited number of notes. But what had been the case last year ? And here he would remind the eight Hon. Baronet that in that year there had been no lack of railway and other speculations. The Bank of England could have issued 30,000,000/., and yet there were notes to the amount of 6,000,0001. in the Batik lying unissued. Now, surely, if the Bank could have forced their notes into circulation, there never was a better opportunity —never a greater inducement, than to have done so at that time. And why did they not ? Because they were liable at any time to be called on to give bullion for their paper, and that was found, and would be ever found, a sufficient check upon any undue circulation.—( Hear.) He was surprised to hear the Hon. Member for the Tower Hamlets, who was connected with a system of banking in this country that was little removed from, if not equally as bad as the American system, complain of the Scotch plan. But upon what grounds did the Hon. Gentleman complain ? The re turns showed nothing to justify such an opinion, or to justify either reproach or complaint. For a long course of Years he found that the banking system had been in Scotland highly sa tisfactory to the people, and the circulation had been ample, steady, and uniform. This clearly proved that the Scotch banking system had been conducted with great ability, great honesty, and great success.—( Hear, hear.) He was therefore surprised to hear any one review the system in a tone or manner otherwise than favourably. The fluctuation of the Bank of England was infinitely greater than that of Scotland. In the years 1839 and 1840, when distress was very pre valent, the circulation of the Bank of England fluctuated 5,000,0004, while the fluctuations of the Bank of Scotland did not amount to mere than 2,000,000/. or in fact not much less than the average issue.—( Hear, hear.) Then, with regard to the failures in English and Scotch banks, he found that the number greatly preponderated on the side of England; and where an English bank only paid ss. in the pound, he found that the Scotch hanks paid from 9s. 3d. to 153. He was therefore justified in inferring from this that the Scotch banking system was a good one. In Ireland they were going to limit the number of banks because an alarm prevailed in that country which was not founded in fact, and, indeed, for which there was no cause whatever.—(Hear. ) How could they settle at the present moment what number of banks will be necessary for the future wants of Ireland ? The population of that country was gradually increasing, and it was to be hoped its wealth and industry proportionably in creased with it. Why, then, should they be called upon to restrict banks in Ireland, while there was every prospect that, in a few more years, the exigencies of the country would render an augmentation of the number of banks absolutely necessary ? He stood upon these facts in opposing the measure so far as it related to Ireland; and he told the House, if they passed this Bill, they would be establishing one of the oldest and worst systems of banking monopoly. Upon these general grounds he stood opposed to the Bill of the Right Hon. Baronet. In England they had a paltry and imperfect system, and they were do . ng their best to introduce their system into Scotland and Ireland, instead of copying Scotland. Mr. BAILLIE said Scotland did not wish to enjoy any privi lege whatever at the expense of England, but the question before them rested upon totally different grounds. What was the difference in the history of the banking system of the two countries? The people of England found, from fatal expe. rience in 1825, that their system of banking w as unsound and unsafe, and injurious, not only to this country, but to the sister kingdom. In 1825, the numerous failures that took place in eery part of the country clearly proved to the world, that the country bankers of England managed their issues in a most reckless manner, spreading periodical ruin and disaster fc om one end of the country to the other. Those accumulating evils clearly proved that some great alteration in the banking system was necessary, and in 1826 the Government of the day, acceding to the general wish of the people, abolished the circulation of one pound notes in England. That was a clear statement of the facts so far as they related to England. Now, what was the case respecting Scotland? Why a system was then established, which was considered to be one of the very best in the kingdom. It had passed through all the storms and changes of the last century— thr ivah panics and internal rebellion arid foreign war. Yes, it had passed through all these changes without ever having raised the least suspicion or doubt in the public mind of Sect land, and always met its demands, and maintained its superiority over all other systems. Although he objected to many of the minor de:ails of the Bill he would give it his sup port. He hoped that some modification would be made in the Committee, but upon the wholeihe believed that the Bill would be both acceptable and beneficial to the Scottish people. Mr. C. WOOD had had no intention to address the House this night upon the subject of the Bill. But the speech of his Hon. Friend the Member for Lambeth compelled him to state his own opinion. It had been prophesied that the effect of the Bill would be to prevent the free circulation of capital in Scot land. But the result had been entirely to the contrary.— ( Hear, hear.) The beneficial effects of the Bill had been esta blished before the Bill had passed. The Hon. Member went then into several details respecting the operation of the Scotch banks, which it would be impossible to repeat without having the papers to which he referred. (The enunciation of the Hon. Gentleman was rapid and indistinct, and for a great part of the time, during which our reporter paid the most anxious and painful attention, he was umble to collect any series of calcula tions which could:be made intelligible.) The Hon. Mr. BOUVERIE ind not wish to say mush upon this subject, but his opinion was that he did nut think the present state of banking in Scotland warranted the interference of the Legislature at all. The losses, and failures, and bank. ruptcies that had attended the interference hitherto of the Le giclature with the banking system in England had been un known in Scotland ; but now the Legislature, having taken up the question, and were about to make laws regulating the Scotch banking system, he had no doubt but that a very short time only would elapse before the same evils would be the con sequence of this interference. They had all seen that evils of the same nature had resulted in America from legislative inter ference, though not to the same extent as in Englaod. On these grounds he contended that the present system of banking in Scotland should nut be interfered with, at least by such le gislative interference as that of which he had been speak'ng, for it certainly would not be attended with beneficial results. Mr. AWN TZ did not intend to say much upon the subject. He would merely observe that the only thing he had to com plain of was, that the Right Hon. Bar one t i n preferring this measure had not gone far enough. He could not see why if one-pound notes were good for Ireland and Scotland, they should not also be good for England ; and, on the other hand, if they were bad for England, why should. their circulation be permitted in Scotland ? Mr. BARING thought that last year's Bill decided the principle upon which they should proceed. They limited the banks of issue in Scotland and in Ireland last year, and the Government would not have granted the monopolies which they had conferred, without reserving to themselves the right of regulating the one-pound note system afterwards. He pro fessed himself a disciple of the old school, and would read to them an extract from Adam Smith, in which it would be found that his opinion was not very favourable to the advocates of the small-note issues. The Hon. Gentleman then read the ex tract, and went on to say that anybody who looked to the com mercial prosperity of this country, which had increased so much for the last fifty years, and asserted that that prosperity was traceable to the banking system which existed here, he would be laughed at. Now, he held that the same system of reasoning applied to Scotland. It was not, he con • sidered, a fair inferrnee that the commercial prosperity of Scotland entirely proceeded from the banking system, which was established there. It was rather attributable, he con sidered, to the prudes •e and commercial habits of the people. There never, too, was a greater mistake than to draw in ferences from the fluctuations in bullion. For in the year 1837, a time of great commercial depression, when the bul lion in the Bank of England was reduced to five or six mil lions, was the diminution in the circulation of the Bank of Scotland proportionally reduced? Quite the oontrarv, So far from being reduced, he found there was an act of 165,0001. And again in A ugust, 1439, woii: h ual increase e the bullion was decreased 2,440,000/. in the Bank of there was an increase (but a small one, however) ',n the circulation of the Bank of out Intland. He was verY "7.uch af r aid t h at t h ey did not followpractice the Pen'.4les which they had laid down. He would not, however, detain the Hou se by repeating the ar guments of the Hon. Member for Halifax, and under all the circumstances he would give the Bill his support. Mr. ROSS thought he should best consult the feelings of the House in adopting the example set him by the Hon. Member for Halifax, in nut mixing up the Irish and the English part of the question. He begged, however, to assure the House, that he would bring the whole system of Irish banking before them on a future occasion. Mr. OSWALD thought that the people of Scotland would be quite satisfied to be left alone altogether.—( A laugh.) He had very careltslly examined the nature and bearings of the measure, and they had no great fault to find with it in the main. Any objection he had to make would be brought for ward when the question went into Committee. The House then went into Committee on the Bill. On the first clauso being read, Mr. BANNERMAN moved as an amendment that the words "said period of one year preceding the first day of May 1E415," be omitted, and to substitute the following words— " period of four weeks immediately preceding the 7th day of December 1844." Sir ROBERT p.REL said, that it was totally out of his power to agroo to the proposition. He believed that the arranucatent that had been proposed would lead to conciliation. Hear, hear.) He believed that without disparaging the issue of the banks of Scotland, the bank would be enabled to provide for it without any increase of the amount of bullion. Mr. HUME thought not one point of benefit had been pre. sented by oy Hon. Member that could be derived from the R\e f ,sura. He thought the present measure was a breach of kith, and they were about to restrict circulation. The very first words of the preamble cf the Bill were at variance with the provisions whic.b the Right Hon. Baronet had obtained leave to introthiee, and as the whole people of Scotland were unnitoonsly against the measure, he concurred with his Hon. Friend the Member for Kilmarnock, in conjuring the :Go vernment to consult the interests of that country, although, perhaps, by a majority, wholly ignorant of the measure and its effects, it might be carried in opp os iti on to the i r wishes. Sir R. PEEL declared that a more unfounded charge had never been made than that of accusing him of having broken a pledge solemnly given to the House, of having brought forward a Bill at variance with that which he had obtained leave to introduce.—( Hear, hear.) He would show that, like many other of the Hon. Member's assertions, this charge was falla cious and unfounded. —( A laugh.) The preamble of the Bill, as originally propounded, recited the i.lentioal provisions iif the prcsatit measure. He proposed to asi-ertain the averages by Cu. issue of the month. The variations in banking in Scotland at certain periods of the year were unquestionable and remarkable. In the months of May and October, the circulation was materially affected, and if the average should be taken during those equivocal periods, the deductions would be fallacious, and, if acted upon, dangerous. The periods, he contended, should be thirteen lunar months from the date of the passing of the Bill. The average issue of the Scotch banks was 3,041,3991., while 3,061,000/. was the average of the last, and anticipated average of the next year. Such had been the computations as originally propounded, and he would therefore ask the House how, when the same were now repeated, he could be charged with'breaking his pledge or introducing a Bill at variance with his previous entmciations ?—( Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME would not retort the charge of inconsistency or error, although it was singular how often the Right Hon. Baronet had followed his (Mr. Home's) advice, alter pre viously and obstinately opposing it; and how often he had changed his course and a'lopted the principle s of these he charged with ignorance and fallacy.—(Loud laughter.) He could prove, from the pi easnble of the Bill, that restrictions were anticipated by it—restrictions wholly at variance with the pledge previously given. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER contended that such was not the provision of the Bill. The bankers in Scotland would not be entitled to issue more than 3,061,0001., unless they had a reserve of gold warranting an increase. such a reserve they fiequently had, and the operations of the Bill merely enjoined a registration of the excess. Mr. DENISON contended, from a statement of a Com mittee of Bankers, that so far from an increase of 30,0001., it would exceed 100,000/., making the average circulation of Scotland 4,000,000/, instead of 3,4411,000/. Mr OSWALD thought the sum of 3,063,0001., as provided by the Bill, too limited for the present wants of the country. The measure would affect the hanks in the agricultural di , - tricts, but the great banks in Edinburgh and Glasgow would not be influenced by it. The real s( fferers would be the country banks in the rural districts, if the Right Him, Baronet did not concede something to the feelings of the people of Scotland, by a relaxation if the restricion he proposed. Mr. ROCHE slid not see that the present measure was called for, as to the former banking system in Scotland that country was indebted for all the good she had achieved, up to that moment, in trade, commerce, and general improvement. Sir G. CLERK defended the restriction of the Bill relative to the issues, and if the principle of a certain amount of gold in pi °portion to issues was to be maintained, he could not see how the amount of specie could be reduced. Mr. FOX MAULE corroborated the statement of Mr. Oswald, as to the influence of the Bill on the agricultural banks, and cited several banks in Scotland that would be inju riously affected by it. They should pause ere they changed a system which had produced such great advantages during the last 120 years. Mr. P. M. STEWART wished that the principle of ave rage circulation was extended to Scotland, for he felt conident that it would answer quite as well there as in England. The returns made were the minimum returns of the circulation of Scotland, and the Scotch banks ought to be allowed to amend those returns; and the fair adjustment of this point would be to allow the Scotch banks to amend their returns, and ob tain the fair average, which would be four millions sterling. It was a motion of great moment, and the practical effect of the measure would be, in many instances, the limiting the metropolitan banks to a very low circulation. They must call in the small banks, which would seriously injure the popula tion of the rural district. Was it worth while that they should risk such an important interest by refusing that which was only a fair working out of the principle of the Bill? An How. MEMBER, whose name we could not learn, ob served, that in considering these twelve months, from which the average was taken in eight cases out of ten, a maximum average had been given to the circulation of England. And therefore he would say that, whether from accident, or any other cause, the English banks, instead of being placed in a worse situation than the Sco:ch, were placed in a much bet ter position. He hoped the right Hon. Baronet would allow the Scotch Banks to amend their returns. Sir R. PEEL said the English bankers had asked to have that period given them which would furnish a maximum re turn, but it was refused to them, and lie hoped the House would not BOW decide upon subjecting the people of England to dis advantages to which the people of Scotland were not subject. The truth was the measure was more favourable to Scotland than the English measure was to England.—( Hear, hear.) There was this difference between them, that whatever amount of gold the bankers held in this country, they were not allowed to increase the issue. He hoped that the Irish Members would not, on this occasion, join with the Scotch—(Loud laughter)—but consider the case of Scotland as separate from England. The Scotch bankers were not entitled to greater advantages than the bankers of this country. He relied upon the general sense of the House for maintaining a proposal which was not unjust, but which, if erroneous or unjust, was certainly unjust in favour of Scotland. Sir R. FERGUSON said, that during the last year there had been increased prosperity in Ireland, and he would im plore the House not to allow such a Bill to pa-s as would put restrictions on their currency. Mr. MUNTZ agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman at the head of the Government that the present measure was decidedly favourable for the currency of Scotland, but he would have wished it to have been extended on a more liberal plan. The House then divided, when there appeared-- For the amendment 59 Against it Majority against the amendment —2s The clause was then agreed to. Oo clause 2 being proposed, a desultory discussion took place, in which the Honourable Mr. Bouverie, iUir. Redington, Mr. Charles Wood, took part. The clause having been put, Mr. DENNIS TOUN said that it was understood by bankers generally, that the Government would not press this clause, and he should therefore beg leave to move a verbal amendment. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment 3l Against it 6O Majority against it The clause was then agreed to. Clauses 3,4, 5,6, and 7, were passed without any dis cussion. On clause 8 being put by the Chairman, Mr. F. MAULE said he had an amendment to move upon this clause, and he should, therefore, move that the Chairman do report progress. The House having resumed, the CHAIRMAN reported ac cordingly, and obtained leave to sit again on Monday next. The other orders of the day having been disposed of, the House adjourned at One o'Clock PARLI .ANIENTARY BUSINESS. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4. RAILWAY Select Committee on Group PP., postponed from Monday, June 9, till Thursday, June 12, at half after twelve. Select Committee on Group QQ. Earl Shelburn discharged from attendance on the Com mittee. The Hon. G. Cavendish (North Derby), selected, and added to the Committee. Select Committee on Group PP. The Hon. G. Cavendish discharged from attendance on the Committee. Earl Slielburn (Caine), selected, and added to the Committee. Select Committee on Group Z. Mr. Rice Clayton discharged from attendance on the Con,. mittee. Select Committee on Group RR. Mr. Cochrane discharged from attendance on the Com mittee. Mr. Rice Clayton (Aylesbury), selected and added to the Committee. Select Committee on Group QQ, Manchester and Birmingham Railway (Macclesfield Branch Extension) Bill,—Referred to the Committee. Order, referring Manchester and Leeds (Oldham Branches, and Manchester South Junction and Altrincham Railway Bills, to the Committee, discharged. Select Committee on Group RR. Manchester South Junction and Altrincbam Railway Bill, — referred to the Committee. NOTICES GIVEN , 'IHE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE. Monkland and Kirkintilloch Railway,—Report, Friday, June 6. Clydesdale Junction Railway, —Report, Friday, June 6. Caledonian Railway, —Report, Friday, June 6. Glasgow, Garnkirk, and Coatbridge Railway,—Report, Friday, June 6. Great North of England and Richmond littilway,—Third reading, Friday, June 6. London a.rieGreenwichßailway,—Report to be considered, Friday, June 6. Guildford Junction Railway,—A clause and amendment to be proposed, on third reading, Thursday, June 5. Belfast and Ballymena Railway,—Third reading, Friday, June 6. London, Worcester, and South Staffordshire Railway,— Committee on petition for additional provision, Friday, June 6. Select Committee on Group AA, adjourned till Friday, June 6, at twelve, Select Committee on Group FF., adjourned till Friday, June 6, at twelve. Epping RailWaY,—Committee on petition, adjourned till Friday, June 6. Select Committee on Group PP., postponed till Thursday, June at half after twelve. - .is royal Highness Prince Albert has fixed Sa turday, the 28th inst., at three o'clock in the afternoon, for laying the foundation-stone of the new hospital for Marylebone and Pad dington. MORTALITY IN THE METRopous.—There has been a considerable increase in the deaths during the last week, the total number being 905, exceeding that of the pre ceding week by 95. The incrcase is chiefly from diseases of the lungs and other organs of respiration. The number of violent deaths was 29, of which 7 were suicides, and 4 from burns and scalds. Sixteen died of small-pox, at the following ages :—Four under 1 year ; seven 1-3 ; three 3-5 ; one 5 ; and one 17 years. RAILWAY BILLS IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS.—Three Railway Bills only have been brought up from the House of Commons to the House of Lords, viz., the Chester and Holy head, the Leeds qnd Dewsbury, and the Huddersfield and Sheffield Junction. They have been read a first time, and referred to the Standing Orders Committee, which met again yesterday. It sits twice a week, on Tuesday and Friday. The Standing Orders Committee will hear evidence to investigate whether the standing orders of the House have or have not been complied with. If they come to the former decision, then the Bills will be read a second time, and should there be any opposition to them, petitions signifying such is the case will be presented to the House of Lords. The next step required is for the Bills and petitions, if any, to be referred to the General Committee ap pointed for the session, and that Committee w ill appoint a Select Committee of five Peers, before which Committee the evidence will be submitted. When that is gone through, a report will be made to the House, favourable or unfavourable, as the case may be. Should the standing orders prove net to have been complied with, then a report will be made to the House stating that fact, and directions will be given by the House as to the futu re p roceed i ngs. THEATRE ROYAL, DUIILIN.—TWO welcome fa vourites made their re-appearance in our theatre on Saturday and last evenings. Madame Celeste and Mr. Webster have come back for a short engagement among us, and on last evening displayed the same excellence in their respective walks of art as had pre viously won for them such hearty applause in our theatre. The entertainments of last night consisted of The Mysterious Stranger, in which Madame Celeste had various opportunities for the exercise of her very versatile powers. The piece is one of those melo dramas, presenting scenes of Parisian life in various classes of so ciety, all the changes of which turn out to be no more than a dream. In The Pretty Girls of S tilberg, a little trifle, already favourably known to the pubic, Celeste and Webster were equal to their former excellence; nothing could be better than the effect produced by the latter where he assumes the air and chess of Na poleon. The resemblance was as startling as if one of his portraits had walked from its frame. The amusements of the evening were terminated by another little French piece, entitled Marie Ducange, in which these accomplished actors exhibited their usual and well known skill and graceful powers.—Freeman's Journal. RAILWAY COMMITiT. (YESTERDA V.) , Ul' LONLO2:, CIIATHA7 9 I, AND NOILTIE LINE. The Committee resumed the consideration of this line this morning at twelve o'clock, by the examination of Mr. Hatt, Messrs. Hal's superintendent in London. He spoke as to the extent of their business, and the impossibility of removing any portion of their premises to a greater distance from the intended line of railway. Mr. Monk, foreman of Messrs. Hall's mills, proved the precau. tion used to avoid accidents by explosion of the gunp.mder, or the materials used in its manufacture. He related several accidents ot a serious nature which have occurred within the last twenty years, in which logs of timber and fragments of machinery have not only been thrown from immense distances, but have even been imperil. nent enough to trespass on the premises of Messrs. Hall's neigh. hours. He stated, also, that on one occasion windows had been broken at the distance of a mile from the explosion. Other witnesses were called to confirm the above evidence. Mr. 'Wilt., of Dartford, spoke as to the explcsion which had taken OAT at hi, mills on Monday last, when pieces of timber were scattered to the extent of 130 yards. He had a film convic tion that the proi.osecl railway would be extremely dangerous to the public and to ‘lessrs. Hall's mills. Captain Crawley and Sr. Austin spoke as to the same facts, and Mr. W. Hall, oneof the petitioners, was called, but not ex:trained. Mr. Waller spoke as to the effect of certain explosions some years since. At one time fifty horses belonging to his lather had been killed. Mr. Mkusiewt:Tima then said that the ea s e for the petitioneill had concluded, with the exception of Colonel Cockburn's evidence. The Committee then adjourned until twelve o'clock tomorrow. GROUP 88. THE WATER.POILD, WEXFORD, wrczLow, AND DUBLIN 7iLAILWAY. The Committee met to-day at twelve o'c:ock, Mr. Colquhoun in the chair, when the examination of witnesses was resumed. Mr. Gibbons' examination continued—His examination com. menced on the gradients, of which the following is an abstract, commencing at Dublin, end going regularly a ong the line :—One gradient of I in 50, one of 1 in 84, one oft in 55, one of 1 in 70, one of 1 in 69, one of I in 84, one of 1 in 91, one of 1 in 1(13, one of I in 107, one of 1 in 103, one of 1 in 104, one of I in 107, one of 1 in 53, one of 1 in 104, one of 1 in 95, one of 1 in 103, one of 1 in 98, one of 1 in 96, one of 1 in 9:4, one of 1 in 105, one of 1 in 106, one of 1 in 98, one of 1 in 105, one of 1 in 94, one of 1 in 103, one of I in 100—total, 27 gradients, all of this severe character. The gradients were made on the supposition that the atmospheric principle would be applied. The gradients could easily be reduced, provided loco motives were to be used. He estimated that the cost, providing the atmospheric principle was applied, would b. 10,0001. a mile for a single line of rails. The worst curve was one in twenty chains. He had b2en a county surveyor of Wexford for many years. He knew the country through which the Carlow and Wexford line passed, and there was very little traffic on it. He had examined the tables and estimates of Sir John M‘Niell, and he thought them much too low. The price of land he considered underrated. He considered that, if they went before a jury of Wexford to assess, the value of these 370 acres, they would be valued at double the amount set down. The witness was next examined in detail respecting the cuttings, embankments, bridges, &c., on the line, and the explanation of these, with the cross-examination which they elicited, occupied the Committee till four o'clock. The Committee then adjourned till tomorrow at eleven o'cicck. GROUP EE. SCOTTISH MIDLAND RAILWAY. The Committee met to-day at the usual hour, Mr. F. Bating in ,he chair. 1 he case far the Bill having closed yesterday, Mr. ANDitEws proceeded to address the Committee on behalf Of the Duke of Athol, the Earl of Mansfield, and other landed pro. prietors against the Bill. In the course of his speech he said that the feeling of that part of the country with regard to the line had heen misrepresented, that the estimates were incorrect. and that the calculation of traflie was grossly exaggerated, for that instead of 30,000/. per annum being realised, the real traffic of the district would not produce more than 7,0001. After commenting at great length upon the several points of the district, the Learned Gentleman concluded by calling on the Committee to reject the Bill. Mr. JkMES next addressed the Committee, on the part of Lady Willoughby D'Ercsby. He maintained that the traffic would not be sufficient to support the line, and that the wants o f t h e d i strict would be better supplied by the' Aberdeen Railway. The room was teen cleared. On our return, the CiI•IRMLN said that the Committee had decided the preamble of the Bill to be proved. The Committee then proceeded to consider the clauses of the Bill. The several clauses were read and agreed to, and the Chairman was instructed to report the Bill to the House. The Committee then adjourned, having terminated its labours, this being the ►ast Bill in the group. lit) UP F. The Committee met again this morning at twelve o'clock, the Right Hon. F. Shaw, Chairman. The Committee proceeded with the clauses of the Great Western Bill for THE OXFORD, WORCESTER, AND WOL— VERHAMPTON ILAILWAIn Mr. 13tTag6 appeared in supr.ort of the clauses of the Bill. Clauses up to Nu. 24 were agreed to with a few verbal alterations. On clause 25, which tel - -tes to the nature of ga u ge , and enacts—. " And whereas plans lind sections of the railway, showing the line and levels theVof, and also books of reference, containing the names br the owners, lessees, and occupiers, or reputed owners LU'd lessees and occupiers, of the lands through which the sane is intended to pass, have been deposited with the clerks of the peace of the counties of Bettis, Oxford, Worcester, Gloucester, Stafford, and Wilts, and with the clerk of the peace for the city of ‘Vorcesti.r ; be it enacted, that, subject to the provi sions in this and the said recited Acts contained, it shall be lawful for the said Company to make and maintain the said railway and works, in the lino and upon the lanes delineated on the said plans, and described in the said hooks of reference, and to enter upon, take, and use such of the sai . lands as shall be necessary for such pur. po , e," an amendment was moved by— Mr. LOCKHART, " to restrict the guage to the width of 4 feet. S i 5 inches ;" which is the width of the narrow guage. The amendment, on a division, was negatived, no other Hop. Member having supported it. The remaining unopposed clauses having been gone through, Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM, on behalf of Mr. Parrott, proprietor of part of the river Haven navigation, submitted that the pro moters should not cross the river at Evcsham without compensa tion to the proprietor. The promoters would cross by two bridges, and unless those bridges were made at such an elevation as wi.uld not cause the vessels passing under the bridges to lower their masts, the Committee should fix a remuneration for the loss which would be sustained by the loss of traffic the delay of those vessels would cause to his clients. Mr. Brunel said he would by morning fix an elevation. This was agreed to, and the point was postponed. Mr. DANIEL said he had to ask power for the Birmingham and Gloucester Railway traffic to go on the Oxford and Wolverhampton line from Stoke to Abbots Wood. He would, however, inform the promoters that the clause, if granted, would not prevent the Bill being opposed in all its stages. Mr. TALBOT thought his Learned Friend was very modest to ask a clause, and then in the same breath, hot and cold, tell his c:ients that, clause or no clause, he would oppose the Bill. He was satisfied to have a clause framed by the next day, which would be at a reduced rate of tolls to the Birmingham and Gloucester Company. It was, however, unfair to ask such power, and then announce a determined opposition to the Bid. _ . .. The CHAIRMAN—I think it is almost unfair. The matter was then postponed. THE OXFORD AND RUGBY RAILWAY BILL. --- The first 14 clauses of this Bill were agreed to without amend. menu, and the Committee adjourned to twelve o'clock tomorrow. GROUP GG. SCOTCH RAILWAYS. GLASGOW JUNCTION RAILWAY. The Committee en this group, consisting of Mr. Evans (Chair. man), Mr. Newdegate, Mr Miles, Mr. Muntz, and Lord Grimston, met at twelve o'clock in the Sessions House, Westminster. The promoters of the scheme called John Leadbetter, an exten.. sive manufacturer, and Dean of Guild of Glasgow, who said that his office constituted him the principal member of the Chamber of Commerce, and he was therefore cognizant of the proceedings of that body. The consideration of the present project had not come before them in a formal manner, and he was not prepared to say what the private opinion of individual members might be. He was also a trustee of the River Clyde, and that trust had come to A re• solution sanctioning the laying of rails along the quay. He con ceived that the proposed junction would iacrease the traffic of the Glasgow and Ayr Railway, and also benefit the harbour trade. Cross- examined by Mr. Sergeant TALFOURD—He had an interest in the Edinburgh and Glasgow, and in the Ayr Railway, both of which lines would be benefited by this junction, but he had a greater interest itt the Glasgow Harbour, and if the shipping inte. rest were disadvantageously affected, his less would be greater than his former gains could repay. Mr. Charles Rees, Surveyor-General of the Scotch Post-offices, spoke to the security which unbroken transmission would give to the Irish mails, which would pass by this junction to Portpatrick. Mr. George Mills, merchant, Glasgow, was called to prove th• traffic tables, but his examination was adjourned by consent till to. morrow. Mr. Miller, C.E., then entered into details showing how he in tended carrying the line across the streets of Glasgow by a viaduct, and in some cases under, by a tunnel. The line would cross the Clyde by a bridge of three arches, the estimated cost of which was 30,000/. The total cost was 280,000/. It was proposed to throw out a branch from the main line to communi cate with the Broomielaw. The estimates were fully sufficient for the construction of the line. The Committee adjourned at four o'clock till to .morrow. GROUP K. NORWICH AND BRANDON LINE. The consideration of this Bill was resumed this morning by the evidence of Mr. G. P. Bidier,C.E., who was examined by Mr. GIRDEN—III en. gineer to the Norwich and Brandon projected railway, and has bad the plans and sections of that and the rival Eastern Extension line submitted to him. The distance from London to Cambridge by the former project will be 58 miles 12 chains; from Cambridge to Brandon, 30 miles, 26 chains; and from Brandon to Norwich, 37 miles 61 chains, making a total from Norwich to London of 126} miles, which would be reduced to 1231 in case the Farringdon.street terminus were accorded and adopted. From London to Attleborough the distance will be 110 miles, and from Attleborough to 'Wyndham six miles, making in all from London to Wyndham 116 miles. From Wyndham to Dereham the length of the line will be 11 miles, and from the latter town to the metropolis 127 N miles ; from Attleborough to Diss 10 3 4, and from Dereham to Diss 27 1 ,4 miles. The gradients on the when must they have e x reported s t d e Norwich and Brandon were unusually f avourable, anu as compare with the Eastern Counties Ext ens i on, were preferable to a palpable i d n egr t e h e e ; minds and of a g t r h ea e t Board of Tr a de misapprehension in favour of the former. The gradients on the Eastern Counties Extension were highly objectionable; for 1,000 yards the decline was lin 88, and for 400 yards 1 in 96. The conse quence of such steep gradients was the difficulty, if not impose bility, of adopting the customary engines to the rail. The cure es on the Norwich and Brandon were unexceptionably small, an d every other engineering point was equally easy. There are no planes or tunnelling on the Thetford Deviation, the length of which will be 5f miles. The steepest gradient is I in 218. Two high. ways, one on the road from Wockham to Thetford, and the oth between the latter town and Wetton.lane, to be crossed, but n engineering difficulties of any consequence are experienced. By Mr. RICARDO—The difference between the levels of Dereha and Wyndham is 40 feet, the level at the latter town being I much higher than at Dereham. Cross.examined by Mr. CALVERT—The traffic tables have be 4 n taken by actual observation, parties being placed oft the Dereha road, just out of Norwich ; the Hingham road, Barford, Shi ton, and other points. Has taken credit for the whole the market at Dereham in his traffic tables. There are a I e coaches running between Dereham and Norwich, and one to t Le metropolis. ihe distance between Dereham and London by Lyn is shorter by five miles than that by Wyndham ; nevertheless he co ciders that traffic will go up, n the latter in greaterproportion than former. The plans and sections of the Eastern Counties Extnid project, as deposited in the office of the clerk of the peace, are ve inaccurate, though he cannot state the extent or particulars of t errors. [This witness, in the comae of a protracted dire 'nation, to which the whole of the day's sitting w a Wir e the exception of Mr. Wodebouse's evidence, exclusi