The Sun. — London, England, 1839-09-20 00:00:00

_EVENING EDITION. TEXAS. TO THE FRIENDS OF THE ABOLITION OF THE SLAVE TRADE AND SLAVERY. Two letters have appeared in various London and Provincial Papers on the subject of Texas, and though I was not cognizant of either until I saw them in print, and do not know why the parties thought fit, in publishing their rules, to address so humble an individual as myself, yet I am fully sensible of the momentous importance of the ques tion to the abolition of the Slave Trade and Slavery. The first of these letters is written by Daniel O'Connell, who, it is needless for me to say, has been a consistent advocate of the freedom of the negro from the time he first took his seat in Parlia ment. Without giving an opinion on the details . of the plans he proposes, I consider that both it and i the two motions of which he has given notice for next Session, are worthy of his principles as an enemy of slavery. Whether the language he em ploys is too strong, I leave those to judge who have read a work entitled " American Slavery as it Is, on the Testimony of 1,000 Witnesses," recently published. With the author •of the second letter, signed " William Kennedy," which controverts the state ments and opinions of Daniel O'Connell, I am un aquainted, and, having neither the leisure nor abi lity to enter into the old question of the Texas, which I trust will be shortly laid before the pub lic by parties thoroughly conversant with it, I will only advert to one or two points in this letter. When asserting that the slave trade is made piracy by the Texian , Constitution, he also says. " Population being essential to the very existence of the State, American planters were received on the only terms that could induce them to transfer their capital to the soil."' The English reader will perhaps hardly believe that these " only terms" are, that while the slave trade by sea is made piracy, the American slave traders by land should not only have a monopoly of this accursed traffic, Without any limit or check, from their slave breeding states, but that it should be part of the ,Tex;an Constitution that the subject of the aboli tion of slavery should not even be entertained with outfve years' notice—a time which it is well known ) on the calculation of Southern Planters themselves is about sufficient to work a race of negroes to death.* The writer of this letter professes great abhor , ence of the character of General Santa Anna, but his real crime in the eyes of the American Slave-owners is enforcing the abolition of sla very throughout the Mexican Republic, when they were waiting to seize Texas as a market for their slaves. This object was publicly avowed by them ten yearsago. In the debates in the Virginian Convent ion in 1829, Judge Upsher said " If it should be our lot, as I trust it will be, to acquire the country of 1 Texas, th e i r p r i c e (the slaves) will rise again."— n (Debates, page 77.) At the same Convention, and in the same year, 1829 (page 89), the Hon. Philip Doddritlge statad that the acquisition of Texas will greatly enhance the property in ques tion, that is, Virginian slaves. We are told by the advocate of the Texian scheme, as a cau t ion not to interfere, that the cause of emancipation has retroeaded in the United States, " owing to the intemperate zeal of the northern abolitionists." I need not remind the friends of emancipation in England that this was ever the favourite assertion of the slave-holders and their advocates during the struggle for negro free dom in the British West India Colonies, nor yet record the opinion of American gentlemen most accurately informed on the subject, that the bold 1 and strenuous efforts of the northern abolitionists in denouncing this plague-spot of their social and i political system, h ave w ithi n th e l as t f ou r years done more towards effecting its extinction than the exertions of the previous half century. The slave ! owners of the South know this full well. There is reason to hope that, even amongst the trifling popu -! lation of which the Texas is as yet composed, there are many honest friends of liberty who will assist in destroying this iniquity in the bud. I have a letter by the last steam-packet from l New York, written by a gentleman intimately ac i quainted with that territory, in which he says -1 " The pop u l a ti on co nsi s ts of eighty to one I hundred thousand from all parts of the world ; I though a preponderance from the Southern States. AThere are, perhaps, 20,000 slaves. The egis l •1 a .) tion and laws favour slavery, though they prohibit the introduction of slaves from any country but the United States. Some good men, whose interest on I the subject is confined to their own country, think Jthat it will drain off the slave population of the I United States if the system is continued there, but this is a short-sighted view of the subject ; it will barely furnish a market for the surplus, and no more drain the United States than Louisiana and Virginia. On the contrary, the immense region of I cotton land in Texas opened to this k ind of cultiva tion, will foster and sustain the system of slavery to an extent which can hardly be conceived. Just so fast as the increasing population and the greedy rapacity of the Anglo-Saxon race requires a greater extension of. territory, they will not fail to find some reason for wresting it from the indolent and powerless ' Mexicans ; and, as far as human foresight can ,penetrate, there is nothing to prevent the renewal of the accursed system to the Straits of Darien—. , by .a professedly Christian people, where it has once been abolished by a semi-barbarous race." 1 ..1/ T ere is a general impression in the north that 1 Texas is a fertile and delightful country ; and l it is slavery alone that prevents an immens e ' emigration from this section to that. country. Means might also be taken to turn that current of European emigration which is now setting to the I North Western States of Texas. A strong party . 1 so Texas is in favour of freedom, who have now no;hing to concentrate them and no opportunity of getting their sentiments before the public. It must L :lways be remembered that the present popu lation mr Texas is a mere handful, equal, perhaps, to on of the wards of some of your large cities ; nor need the ISsitish Government entertain any fears of embroiling itself with the United States by such a proceeding (ti:e promotion of the abolition of slavery) ; on the Cow rary, it would meet with the hearty concurrence of .a large majority here." Such, then, being ths , fearful plan for erecting , the new State of Texas, by giving new life and ener g y to a system of crime and injustice, which in , i many of the neighbouring States is sinking under its inherent rottenness, it becomes the duty of 1 e very real abolitionist, whether in England or America, to warn his countrymen against being de es ‘yed within the sphere of its contaminating in . finance. li - . . inched, the strange assertion that " the settlers of 'Texas are under the influence of English Common Law," were one of substantial truth, then would that country be a sanctuary of freedom for the bleeding victims of the American Slave 'Trade, and to every one who reached her soil be. wane the "land of the free," and the enemies of the system would be justified in using every legiti mate exertion in promoting the establishment of such a , glorious Republic, and the recognition of . I its indep,andence. But instead of this, the ccuntry is designers' to " be the home o f t h e s l ave ," an d to p l e d b , v a traffic more hid eous t h an t h e Afri be peo 1 can Slave Traa l e itself. a .-0, very respectfully, JOSEPH STURGE. Birmingham, 9th Month. 18th, 1839. 'rue Rev. Dr. Reed, cf London, wh o wen t t h roug h Kentucky, Virginia, * and in the summer o f Ma.'lland, 1834, gives the followirg testin:ony :--" It was told con. fidently, and from excellent authority, that recently at a meeting of planters in South Carolna, the question was oeriously discussed whether the slave is more profitable to tlie owner, if well fed, well clothed, and worked lightly, or if made the most of wi a t once,sinand favourexhaustedlast in alter native."--Visit eight years. The decision to the Ame r ican Churches, by the Rev. page 173. Dr, Reed and IVattheaon, vol. 2, now pf Buf falo,List Church, Bedford, Massachusetts, . The Rev. John O. Chou es, recently pastor of the Bap- New York, made at New substant:olly the following state ment in a speech at 80, ton '— ist T,'ennial Convention at " While a t ten di ng the :_laPt 1.135, as a Delegate Richmond Virginia, in the s; ring of Nu slavery with from Massachusetts, I bad a co:tyersation . . t,... an officer of the Baptist Church in that r h ei e . , 7 : - .4 pot ap house I was a guest. I asked my host i . a at ehose e a.vi -l'er prehend that the slaves would eventually rise . I __ , , I :d the gentlet. au minate their masters? ' Why,' ca. used to apprehend such a catastrophe, but Cod has "nad e a / providential op en i ng, a merciful safety vave , and ,tote . i rem do not f ee l a l armed in the prospect of w h at i s _s oci.,, W com ing ' hat do y ou mean, ' said Mr. C heu l es , 'by Providet he gen- I openi ng a merciful safety valve?'—' Why,' said f rom the tleman, ' I will tell you: the slave trader come ift.. ,. _ cotton and sugar plentations oa the south, and ar . e .,, i m in u n s g t to buy up more slaves than we can part with. "c keep a stoc k for the pur pose of rearing slaves , but we pact , 1 with th e most valuable, and at the same time the most dun- I gerou a , an d the demand 13 very constant end likely to be ' St)) for wh en they go to the southern states the average existence is ONL Y FIVE YILARS r "—American Slavery As It age 39. r ~ ~ .::: '~ PRETENDER TO THE TURKISH THRONE. The Portafoglio Maltese contains the following ac count:of a claimant to the throne of the Sultan, who is now at Malta :—" Nadir Bey, the Pretender, is said to be the son of one of the ladies of the harem of Mus tapha IV. predecessor of the late Sultan Mahmoud, who escaped when in a state of pregnancy from the murderers sent to destroy the women of Mustapha, and went into Moldavia, where she gave birth to this per sonage. She afterwards proceeded to the Crimea, where she died, confiding her son to the care of an old man, named Joanniza, who was charged to take him to Constantinople. Joanniza died before he could per form this mission ;, and Nadir Bey, when 11 years of age, went with a Greek into the Morea. He subse quently entered the army, and served ultimately in Mol davia, Russia, and Poland, until the war broke out be tween Russia and Turkey, when he went to Constanti nople, and Kosrew Pasha, having conceived an affection for him, gave him the command of a regiment of cavalry. He was lodged in the palace of the Seraskier, but had also an appointment in Pera, where he was supposed to bear some resemblance to a Polish Count, named Moginski, and, in spite of himself, this name was given to him. On the revolution of Poland breaking out, he was sent to that country on a mission by Kosrew Pasha, and on his return to Constantinople is said to have escaped from some act of treason of Kosrew Pasha into Egypt, where he was appointed Inspector of Cavalry and Aide-de- Camp to Ibrahim Pasha. Being unwilling to continue in the service of a man who was making war upon his country, he quitted Egypt and resumed to Constanti nople, where, through the influence of Redschid Pasha, he was appointed commander of the troops of Silistria. From Silistria he returned to Constantinople, and ulti mately to Malta, whence he resolved to write to his uncle, and reveal the secret of his birth and claim his rights ; but Mahmoud having died, he has written to the reigning Sultan, and is waiting for an answer." AFFAIRS OF THE EAST. Text of the last note addressed by the Porte to the Ambassadors of the Five Powers : " It is known that on the accession of the Sultan, his Highness immediatelygranted a full pardon to Mehe met Ali, and was ready to concede to him the here ditary sovereignty of Egypt. A commission was ap pointed to treat with the Pacha on this basis, when the representatives of the great Powers announced to the Porte by a collective note, that they were charged by their respective Courts to concur in settling the ques tion between Turkey and Egypt. The Porte imme diately made this known to Mehemet Ali. But while the Porte was quietly waiting the result of the over tures made by the Five Powers to the Pacha, he ad vanced further pretensions, claiming the inheritance of all the provinces under his administration, and announced that the restoration of the Turkish fleet would depend upon a compliance with these demands. He also insisted on the removal of certain high functionaries of the empire, whose offices were not at the disposal of the Sultan. In fine, he allowed himself to address seditious letters to the Viziers of Rournelia and Anatolia, exciting them to revolt. This conduct of the Pacha of Egypt being a violation of his duty as a subject, the Sublime Porte desires that the Great Powers, who have undertaken to settle these un happy differences, will consult on the best means of in ducing the Pacha to return within the path of duty, to restore the Ottoman fleet, to renounce the inheritance of Syria, and his demand of the dismissal of Kostew Pacha, to abstain from every act which may tend to excite against the Porte its faithful and devoted pro vinces ; and, in fine, to wait patiently for the resolu tions which the great Powers may think fit to adopt, and which may be ultimately confirmed by the Sultan. Con sequently the Sublime Porte requests the representa tives to transmit this note to their respective Govern ments requiring the necessary instructions, which, when received, may be communicated to the Porte." We quote,the following from an Alexandria letter of the 2601 ult., given by the Sod of Marseilles :—" M. Cochelet, French Consul-General, on the receipt of despatches from Constantinople, has had another con ference with the Viceroy, to urse him to release the Turkish fleet, rather than have it taken from him for cibly by the French and English squadrons. Mehemet Ali, however, returned the same answer as before. It seems that he limits his demands to the hereditary so vereignty of Egypt and Syria, and the dismissal 01 Kosrew Paella. At the same time he undoubtedly has no faith in the stability of the union between the Five Powers, and believes that a war must take place, in which he will be able to play a distinguished part. Th , Government has applied for a loan of 400,000 talaris, for the payment of the army of the Hedjas, which is two years in arrear. The sum has already been almost entirely advanced by the merchants connected with the Palace. The troops on board the Turkish ships are exerc;sed every day with the Egyptian troops, and every Thursday they practise firing. The superiority of the Egyptians in precision of movement is evident, although the majority of them are mere boys. At a grand entertainment given by Colonel Campbell, the British Consul, the Egyptian Admiral had by his side the Turkish Vice- Admiral, who is at present the chief officer of the fleet, the Capitan Pacha beinc , at Cairo. The Secretary to the Council of Public Instruction at Cairo is now at tached to the Cabinet of Boghos Bey, for the purpose of drawing up the articles by which the Egyptian Go vernment explains and supports its pretensions. Ad miral Stopford has decided that the English steamer shall cease to run to and from Beyrout in November, when the prevalence of contrary winds will no longer prevent the Indian packets from bringing letters via Suez. The English merchants are annoyed at this resolution, and, if they cannot induce the Admiral to rescind it, will engage a foreign packet to undertake the transit. They have offered 1501. a voyage to the Austrian Company, besides paying for such mer chandise as may be brought, but the Directors demand 300 pounds. More than half of the the depot of coal for the Indian packets at Suez has been consumed by fire. A Turkish frigate, said to be a remarkably fast sailer, is gone with two Egyptian fri gates to the coast of Syria, to make, it is said, a trial of speed. Said Bey was a few days ago at Tripoli, in Syria. He is about to proceed to Candia, where he will find fresh instructions from his father." The Sod of Marseilles has a letter of the 21st ult. from Cairo, announcing that on the 15th a fire broke out in the Copht quarter, which at first threatened to be as destructive as that of last year ; but the firemen and authorities were more active—only five or six houses were burnt, and eight or ten pulled down. Abbas Pacha was present in person, and directed the operations. He cut down with his own sabre a man in the act of throwing inflammable matter into the fire. The dike of the Nile was cut on the 18th with the usual pomp and ceremony. The inundation is expected to be very copious, and the harvest correspondently abundant. Much sensation had been caused in Cairo by the acci dental drowning of M. Usgatt, the director of a com mercial house in that city. DISTURBANCES IN PASTO. From a Gazette Extraordinary, published at Bogota July 14.) - " REPUBLIC OF NEW GRANADA. FROM THE GOVERNOR OF POPAYAN TO THE SECRETARY FOR 110 ME AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS. " JULY 4, 1839.-1 have just received, by an extra ordinary courier, the following dispatch, addressed to me by the Governor of Pasto : " TO THE SENOR GOVERNOR OF POPAYAN. " Government of the Province of Paste, June 30. • In the act of commencing the festival of the church of the holy patron of this town, an ecclesiastic of considerable influence proclaimed from the pulpit reli gion and the non-suppression of convents, without any other motive than the expectation that the decree for the said suppression would be sanctioned. While this act of agitation, which alarmed all, was being per formed, one of the auxiliary militia, which had assembled in the convent of San Francisco, protested that the con vents should not be suppressed, as his corps was armed. This obliged me to give orders that the National Guard should he disarmed and removed from the barracks. Meanwhile a call was made through the streets forithe people to defend religion and the clergy, and they all followed the priest. Nevertheless, the barracks were not attacked, but it is to be feared some mischief may happen, and it would be of great advantage if you would bo pleased to take measures for sending forward all the disposable force in your province, for which object I write, under this date, to the Commander-in-Chief of the third column.' " I transcribe this dispatch in order that the same being brought by you to the knowledge of his Excel lency the President of the Republic, he may take such measures as shall appear to him proper ; informing you at the same time that I have also, through the medium of the Secretary of War and Marine, transmitted a report of the said event, and of the precautionary measures which, in concert with the military chief of this province, I have adopted for the protection of the Governor of Paste, in case the commotion, of which he has given me notice, should acquire consistency. " May God preserve you, Senor, "MANUEL JOSE CASTRILLON, FROM THE MILITARY CHIEF OF THE PROVINCE AND COMMANDER OF THE THIRD COLUMN OF THE ARMY TO THE SECRETARY FOR WAR AND MARINE. " Head quarters at Popayan, July 4. " I enclose a copy of the communication addressed to me by the Governor and Military Chief of the province of Pasto, and which was delivered to me by the courier who arrived here at noon this day. The said courier, Ensign Luciano Torres, left Pasto on Monday, and returns this night to that city. " I have communicated to the Governor and Mili tary Chief of that province the march, which will be effected with the greatest possible expedition by one half of the second battalion ; that of the National Guard of Buenaventura, which has been required from the Go , vcrnor of that province ; and vinc that of all the force which e;thatof a squadronordered couldt o b e A rmed in Patio be collected in Popayan, which appears to me sufficient for repressing the insurgents. But you, Senor, and the Government will take such measures as may be thought proper, while we are advancing to Pasto. V. BUSTANIENTE." THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY. SEPTEMBER 20 1839. TIPPERARY ELECTION. TRIUMPHANT RETURN OF THE RIGHT HON. R. L. SHIEL. Monday having been fixed for electing a representa tive in the room of the Right Honourable R. L. Shied, who had accepted office, the court-house of Clonmel was, at twelve o'clock, crowded to excess by .the friends of the Right Honourable Gentleman. At a quarter to one o'clock, the High Sheriff, Count d'Alton, made proclamation in the usual form, when The Hon. Cornelius O'Callaghan noteiaated, and Archdeacon Laffan seconded, the Right Honourable Richard Lalor Shiel as a fit and proper person to re present the county in Parliament., There being no other candidate, the Sheriff declared the Right Hon. Richard Lalor Shiel duly elected, amidst enthusiastic acclamations. Mr. SHIEL said-1 have been proposed by Mr. O'Callaghan, the Member for Dungarvon, and the re presentetit e of the great possessions of that excellent Noblemen who has, to the credit of the Government, e'en enrolled in the imperial peerage, and who in the House of Lords will never fail to evince that devoted soli etude for the interests of this country by which he has been uniformly distinguished. It Mr. O'Callaghan were t person of less station, yet his individual merits as a oolitician would render me proud of his good opinion ; but the support which I derive from him and front his ;mole father derives additional weight from the high poei don which they occupy in society. They refute the unfounded allegation, that I am returned to Parliament ey the illegitimate excitement of the p o pular masses, Ind that the entire property of the county is opposed - 0 me. I might readily disprove this exceedingly it is erro aeous statement by go i ng i nto d e t a ils ; but elottedi for mle to advert t o t h e f ac t, that am stren. Jowly and zealously sus t a i ne d b y t h e proprietor of an ;estate in which there are reg i stere d more than one third of the numbers to which the Tory constituency, ey the utmost efforts, have been raised. The Tories, n the chief contest in this county, could not poll five leandred votes. In this county the population exceeds live hundred thousand. What a fact is this ? Oat of t population of five hundred thousand, the Tories could not poll five hundred men. (Cries of ‘' Hear, hear.") I do not advert to this circumstence.for the purpose of idle vaunt, but because it affords evidence ,ef the condition to which that party, once so powerful, 's reduced. This county is, perhaps, the most important, in several regards, in Ireland. It is of great extent, sur passsing fertility, augmenting affluence, and its population is not less remarkable for the megnitude of its numbers, then for the attributes by which the energetic and high spirited peasantry are distinguished. The representa tion of this county is, in a political - view, of incalcula ele consequence ; yet the Tories, when they put their strength to the test, could not poll half one thousand votes ; and now; after a great deal of idle bustling, have shrunk from an encounter. Their abstinence from a useless contest does them some credit, and shows that they are less disposed than they formerly were to disturb the peace of the county. Hating been proposed by the Hon. Mr. O'Callaghan, I have been seconded, at my special request, by my valuable and Reverend Friend, Archdeacon Laffan, who, from the first moment at ehich I became your Representative, has been my zealous and powerful s upporter. I appeared in the out set of my political career in this county, sustained by that moister at the altar of the people, who holds a high oa which- he reflects more honour than it im parts, and now, raised myself to a position of some oolitical consequence, I revert with grateful pride to tiro, to whom, under far different circumstances. I wile so deeply indebted, and found my claims to your confl. fence in the evidence of strong reliance in my fidelity to your interests, which has been evinced by my admirable friend.—( Hear.) I account myself the representative of the people of Tipperary—of that powerful body which has proved itself irresistible in the struggles with .vhich Toryism rashly entered with its might—and, being the, representative of the people, I stand forward with that man as my a uxiliary, who, from his personal character and his professional station, exercises so just Hid natural an influence on the great community with Aid) lam associated. You have beard Archdeacon Laffan with that just assent to all that he has said which his character is sure to command—but, if there was one topic beyond every other, which deserved your approbation, it was that on which he dwelt so power ally expressing the necessity of making allowance fo r the difficulties with which the Melbourne Govern alma have had to struggle.—(Hear.) There are many measures for the benefit of Ireland which the Ministers ire most anxious to carry, but which the state of par , ies has unhappily retarded. Archdeacon Laffan tells you that you ought not to condemn the Government for not achieving what it is out of their power to accora elish. There is one other subject to which Archdeacon Laffan adverted, and to which I think it right that eour attention should be called.—(Hear, hear.) He lees spoken in terms of natural and well deserved con demnation of the course pursued by the Tory faction in the House of Lords—and, while he has expressed a hope that no one of the ancient constitutional institu tions of this country should be swept away, lie has inti mated his apprehensions that the rashness of faction may so far prevail in the House of Lords that, under the influence of a just resentment, the people of England [nay at least conceive ;that House to be worse than surplusage in the Constitution. For my part, strongly as I reprobate the factious proceedings adopted by the predominating factions in the House of Lords, I am convinced that that assembly will, ultimately, give way to the imperative d eman d s o f t h e I r i s h p eo ple ; and that whatever resi s t ance t h ey may h i therto h ave o ff ere d, thy will yi e ld, as t h ey b efore have yielde d , w h enever t h e will of the country, co-operating with a constitutional exercise of the prerogative, shall have expressed itself in a per e mpt ory and decisive manner.—(Loud cheer tity)liflie'eett:htbreacteciouuesneitereyl7-1 e e(tH. In htheearl. cheer ing.) Remember what befel on the passing of the Reform Bill, and with what facility the House of Lords was coerced into an acquiescence with the demands Post-office tb emeas popularure was fe2i e d g e i n i o e denounced n h e e e e d n by eee q theev unequivocally recent, far less important, indeed, but still exceedingly last t Session ne e r n et Parliament,more ory party, with the Duke of Wellington at its head ; and manifested, yet, after a great deal of idle protestation, the House of Lords succumbed to the necessity which had been imposed upon them. But what need have we to refer to events in which the conduct of the Lords is to he referred to the operation of public opinion in Eng land, when we may appeal to the extortion of our own great emancipation, from the sense of dire necessity . which we awakened in that party who have always pre dominated in the Upper House of Parliament. As we then succeeded, so shall we hereafter prevail ; and bear in mind that we bring additional means of success in the vast and augmenting power with which the people of Ireland have been invested. Thhrefore it is that I think the circumstances adverted to by Archdeacon Laffeo are not likely to arise, and that we may look to a feeling of self-preservation on the part of their Lordships es the means - of obtaining what their sense of justice ought to have induced them long since to have conceded to the ' Irish people. But to those who conceive that sterner mea sures of enforcement must at last be resorted to with re ference to the House of Lords, I beg to suggest that even now they exercise no strong practical control over the Government, and that, although they may thwart the MiniAers in the passing of' useful measures, eel the Ministers are not affected in their retention of offic e by any proceeding of the House of Lords. Althou g h it is to be lamented that the House of Lords h ave taken the steps which they have adopted, yet one woo d fruit has resulted from those rash proceedings.--(hear, hear.) They have proved their own weakness and in. significance with regard to the constitution.of the exe cutive. They passed resolutions respecting the state of Ireland, and appointed their celebrated Committee. —( Hear, hear.) Had such a proceeding been taken in the Commons the Government could not have lasted one hcur ; but how have the proceedings in the Lords effected the stability of the Administration ?—(Cheers.) On the education question they made a similar mani festation of their evil feeling toerards the Government ; but, in despite of their Lordships' pleasure, the Mi tdsters have persevere d, end have not been in the least disturbed in their .possession of power. It thus ap pears that a majority of only two in the House of Commons, is of infinitely more practical consequence than a majority of one letutdred in the House of Lords. I have thought it right thus far to refer to tin' observations of Archdeacon Laffan, in order to prove to him, that it is not probable that any necessity will arise of r. sorting to such stern proceeding s as those of which he reluctantly anticipates the need. I pass with great sa tisfaction from this topic to another, i n w hi c h Arch deacon Leftist) has, with a glowing eloquence so power fully expatiated—l allude to the forceable terms in which lie declared that the present Government was in the enjoyment of the full, unqualified confidence of the people of Ireland. His testi mony i s of great value upon this momentous fact.--(Hear, hear.) Yes, the Government are in the, full enjoy ment of the confidence and the gratitude of the Irish peopl e ;—and wherefore should they not? Did they not give us Normanby as a Lord Lieutenant?—(Great and long continued cheering.) I rej oice to witness the enthusiasm, and, I mav say, the affection with which the utterance of a name that will be dear to us as long as we have hearts in our bosoms, has been received by you ; nor is this feeling confined to the locality in which I am at this moment speaking. In no part of Ireland could ten men, deserving of the name of Irishmen, be collected together, who, at the utterance of the name of Normanby, would not feel as you do. He it was who first introduced that wise and salutary policy which has won the heart of Ireland. His magnanimous and elevated charactermade him symp.F• thiee most deeply in our wrongs,and while the generosity of his disposition prompted him to take part with the Irish people, his sagacity taught Urn that he should best con sult the interests of England by asserting Irish rights. --e(Fleur, hear.) He determined on carrying Emanci pation into ful practical effect, and between all el:l:sees of Irishmen be abolished all religious tfstinctionse . VO man on account of .his peculiar sect found favour in his eyes—but no man, on the other hand, was disqualify d in his judgment by the religion which he professed. — (Hear, hear.) It is a calumny, never was there a fouler FROM THE MILITARY CHIEF OF PASTO TO THE MILITARY CHIEF OF POPATAN. " Pasto, June 30. " Senor—l have scarcely time to inform you that we have been in a state of complete alarm here to-day, so that I have been obli g ed to shut myself in our quarters, with fifty men disposable from the semi-battalion, N 0.7, which I command. " As I believe that the Governor of this province has informed you m-)re particularly of the facts, I hay. , only to beg that you will send what armed force you can spare for the suppression of the disorder which has commenced in this city, and which doubtless will con• tinue. " God prc , eervP. R: r._ " MANUEL MUTIS." In pursuance of the preceding notifications, the Executive has hastened to take all the measures and precautions necessary for suppressing the revo lutionary efforts and attempts, of - which an account has been given. Tile Government cherishes a hope that affairs will not reach a disagreeable extremity in the province of Pasto, because, though soma perverse men, enemies of public tranquillity, who would wil lingly make use of the sacred name of religion to fan ;he flame of civil discord, may be found there, the generality of the Pastians are patriots, obedient to the laws and to the government of their choice. Even those who may now be momentarily deceived, will re tu:n to the path of duty on recognising the enormity of the crime of which it is attempted to make them thi instruments. Supported by the national opinion, surrounded b 3 confidential agents of firmness and probity, with an obe dient and well-disciplined army, and relying on tin• services of the N:itional Guard, the Government will maintain unimpaired the sacred deposit which has beet confided to its hands ; will defend with energy the laws of the country ; will defeat and stamp with dis :;race these attempts of ►auaticism, and cover the insti gators with opprobrium. NEW SYSTEM OF SECONDARY PUNISHMENT. COPY OF A LETTER FROM THE HON. FOX MAULE TO SIR GEORGE GREY, BART. Whitehall, Jan 30, 1839. SIR,—I am directed by Lord John Russell to ac quaint you, for the information of Lord Glenelg, that in conformity with the intentions of Government on the subject of transportation, he proposes to make the fol lowing arrangements :- Ist. The number of convicts to be employed in the Hulks in Great Britain, during the present year, will be increased to 3,500. 2d. The number of convicts to be employed at Ber muda will be increased to 1,000, of whom 200 will he sent out in the spring, and 200 at the end of the year. 3d. The number of prisoners in the Penitentiary will be, for this year, 800, being an increase of 250. 4th. It is not proposed at present to diminish the number of convicts to be sent from Ireland.. sth. The probable number of convicts to be trans ported this year will, consl?quently, be about 2,000. Gth. It is proposed to improve the system of punish ment and instruction now pursued on board the Hulks. 7th. It is proposed to build a new prison, on the se parate system, for 500 prisoners. While" these changes are taking place at home, ac companying alterations must take place abroad, and Lord John Russell directs me to transmit to you the following suggestions for Lord Glenelg's considera- lon : Ist. That instructions should be sent out to prepare the Governors of New South Wales and Van Die. men's Laud for the immediate diminution and ap. preaching discontinuance of the practice of assignment. 2d. That instructions should likewise be sent to pre pare buildings in Norfolk Hand for the reception o! convicts from the United Kingdom, and that the Go vernment of thlt island should be entrusted to some officer in whose zeal and intelligence Lord Glenelg cat, confide. 3d. That general instructions should be given as to the future treatment of convicts confined in the Austra lian settlements, tubject to such variations from time ro time as experience may suggest, founded on the prin ciple state.il in the Report of the Committee of the [louse of Commons, and in conformity with the views of Government.—l am, &c., ( Signed) F. MAUL E. COPY OF A DESPATCH FROM THE MARQUIS OF NOR MANBY TO GOVERNOR SIR G. GIPPS. (No. 46.) Downing-street, May 11, 1539. SlR,—Her Maj, , sty's Government having had undo their consideration the Report of the Select Cninmittet of the House of Commons on Transportation, I transmii to you, for your information and guidance, the inclosed copy of a Letter addressed, by Lord JGhn Russell's directions, to this department ; from which you will learn the general intentions of her Majesty's Govern ment as to the changes to be immediately effected in the existing system. The first result of the proposed arrangements will be a material diminution in the number of convicts to be transported during the present year. • The instructions which you have already received for the graelual abolition of the system of assignment, with a view to its ultimate abandonment, will have pre pared the colony for this change. With respect to Norfolk Island, it is the intention of her Majesty's Government that an essential alteration should be made in the system of punishment pursued there. The healthiness of the climate, the fertility of the soil, and its entire separation from intercourse with ordi nary emigrants, render it pecu,iarly fit for the reception of a large number of convicts, subject to careful superin. tendence and discipline, and for whom regular means of employment must be provided. Her Majesty's Go vernment hope that this may be effected with little, it any, increase of expense, owing to the facilities which exist for rendering the labours of the convicts produc tive. In order to carry this proposal into effect, a pri son will require to be erected, capable of holding as many convicts as can be conveniently and profitably em ployed in the island, and so arranged as to facilitate the adoption of the most effectual means of enforcing an improved system of discipline ; and that for this purpose. as no correct estimate can be formed here of the expenses to be incurred in the erection of such a prison at Norfolk Island, I have to desire that you will, at your earliest convenience, transmit to me such an estimate, together with a plan of the proposed building. In my predecessor's circular dsspatch, of the 21st of October, 1837, he transmitted to you a volume, con taining extracts from the Second Report of the Inspec tors of Prisons in this country, containing plans of prisons ; and I now transmit to you a subsequent volume on the same subject, which will afford you the requisite information on this subject. In the meantime you will consider yourself authorised to incur such ex penses as may be necessary for the temporary accom modation of an increased number of convicts in thee island ; and of those who shall arrive in New South Wrles from this country in the course of the present year, you will send as large a portio❑ to Norfolk Island as you think can be properly received there. The convicts themselves may be advantageously em ployed in making this temporary accommodation. A small increase in the military guard will probably be required, which you will send from the troops now stationed in New South Wales. The general principles which are to guide the future management of transported convicts are, Ist. That a fixed period of imprisonment should, in the first instance, be allotted for the punishment of the crime of which the prisoner has been convicted. 2d. That the actual period of imprisonment should be liable to a subsequent abridgment, according to the previous character of the prisoner, the nature of his crime, and his conduct during his punishment. 3d. That when allowed to leave Norfolk Island, he should not be assigned to any individual in Australia, but should enjoy advantages at least equal to those of a ticket of leave. No prisoner is to be detained in Norfolk Island longer than fifteen years. In order fully to carry these regulations into effect, it is desirable that, as far as possible, Norfolk Island should be appropriated to convicts from the United Kingdom, and that persons convicted of offences in New South Wales should be confined in some other part of the colony, or employed on the roads. In order to carry the new system fully into effect, the superintendence of it should be entrusted to an ofilur on whose qualifications for the duty the best reliance can be placed : he should feel a deep interest in the moral improvement of the convicts, and be disposed to devote his whole energies to this important object. The opposite faults of over-severity and over-indulgence should be carefully avoided, as alike destructive of any good effect on the prisoners. A residence will be provided for the superintendent, and he ~till receive a salary of 8001. a-year. I leave the selection of the officer in the first instance in your hands, subject to my confirmation. On this arrangs ment taking effect, the civil allowance at present allotted to the military superintendent would cease, and a re vision of the existing establishment would be requisite. I have at present only further to desire, that you will communicate to me any observations and sugges tions which you may have to offer, connected with this important branch of the duties involved inthe adrninis tration of your government. (Signed) I am, &c. NORMANBY. - - D° . N s Life in London, price Bd.C, A'E o f S Sunday next , C .s-Tpttt r 22, will contain an ample and ex clusive account of th e Races at Doncas ter; an Engraving of the Doncaster Cup; an d a Portrai t of the Wi nn er of the Gri icr St. Leg er; t oge th er with a ll t h e Sporting and Miscellaneous Intelligence of the week. Office, 170, Strand. Early orders to country agents are indispensable. Bell's Life in London is out in time on Saturdays for the Birmingham two o'clock train. one, that Lord Normanby, in order to advance the Irish Catholic, depressed the Irish Protestant.—( Hear, hear.) God forbid that he or any other man should ever do so! No ! Lord Normanby did not lower the Protestant, but he raised the Catholic to that just level with the Pro testant, to which by Emancipation the Catholic had been theoretically exllted. But there are those who think that their elevation depends on the depression of those below them, and who conceive themselves to have descended, because they see others lifted up. This is the meaning of the factious exclamation about " the poor perse cuted Protestants of Ireland." The Irish Orangemen have, indeed, been deprived of that bad ascendancy which they converted to purposes so fatal to their country, and their monopoly of all power and all patron age is no more ; to this extent their wrongs have reached, but no farther.—(Hear.) That they should repine, and feel exasperated at this deprivation, is not very wonderful ; but, on the other hand, it would be equally marvellous if the people of Ireland did not feef a proportionate gratitude towards the man who acted, in their regard, a part in which wisdom and magnani mity were combined.—(Cheers.) There has been, in England, a great deal of minute discussion resneeting the merits of Lord Normanhy's Administratio► 'n the Tory papers, and . the smallest and most insignlficant details have been examined in the spirit of factious criti cism Every appointment in the police—every remis sion of a culprit's sentence—every petty incident which befel in a Government of four years' duration, has been the theme of reiterated and most elaborate expatiation. --(Hear.) I have often felt, in hearing debates on these topics, that the advocates of Lord Normanby ought to have disdained all reply to such unworthy at tacks.—(Cheers.) Upon Lord Normanby's Govern ment a larger view ought to have been taken ; and to nothing but to the great political results of his Administration ought any reference have been ever made. He secured for Englaad and for her Queen the attachment of seven millions of Irishmen.—(Cheers.) Where deep discontent had reached, he infused confi dence and attachment, and with a genuine loyalty tilled the nation's heart.--(Loud cheers.) His policy was as simple as it was successful ; for how did he ac cotnplish the great things which he performed ? By preferring the rights of a gteat people to the privileges of a small and fallen party, and thus enlisting the affec tions of the country which his Sovereign had committed to his care.—(Hear.)—This will be the view which history will take of his government, and it is in this view that the merits of his administration ought to be discussed. He has been succeeded by Lord Ebrington, and the appointment of that Nobleman has given to the Government an additional title to the national confi- dence.—(llear, hear.) Lord Ebrington was endeared by his whole public life to the Irish people. Under every vicissitude of adverse and prosperous fortune Lord Ebrington was undeviatingly true to the cause of that country to which he is so cordially attached. —( Hear, hear.) - It is not matter of wonder, therefore, that he has, already obtained so much popu larity, and that we should all look with so unqualified a reliance on so just, so good, so pure, and so sincere a man.—( Hear.) . But it ought never to be forgotten that he had Lord Normanby for his predecessor.— (Cheers.) From Lord Normanby's Government he has derived facilities for success, which, under other cir cumstances, he would not have possessed. It was his boast that he should tread in Lord Normanby's steps, and by treading in them he has walked in that path which has led bins to the eminence h e h as a l rea d y reached.—(llear, hear, and cheers.) The Lords them selVes speak v.ith praise o f hi s G overnment ; b ut he has don e nothing, thank God, to incur their sincere panegyric. Their object is to intimate censure of Lord Normanby, through their encomium of his suuccessor ; but in that process of indirect condemnation they are foiled, by the obvious fact that the Government of Lord Ebrington is founded upon exactly the same policy as that on which Lord Normanby's administration was grounded.—( Loud cheers.) I have dwelt upon these topics, because they are connected with the motives from which your confidence in the Melbourne Ministry so deservedly arise—and to that confidence I ascribe the cordial reception which I have this day met among the people of Tipperary.—(Hear.) It not infrequently hap. pens that when a man takes office, he incurs the disre lish of his constituents ; but in my case the reverse has happily and honourably taken place.—( Hear, hear.) You are gratified, I know, by my elevation to the place which I now enjoy —and the entire of the popular party in Ireland have felt pride and pleasure at the marks of favour conferred upon Mr. More O'Ferrall and Mr. Wyse.—(Cheers.) But let it not be supposed for a moment that it is because we are Roman Catho lics that we have been advanced to office. Oar reli gion gives us no sort of claim—but our religion, on the other hand, ceases to act as an impediment.--(Hear.) Had we been Protestants attached to the popular cause, we should have been promoted from precisely the same motives, to which we may now refer our advancement. We ate Irish Members of Parliament, representing the feelings of a vast and powerful body of our countrymen, and we, in common with a large section of the House of Commons, have given to the Minister a strenuous and honest support. Would it be just that upon the class to which we belonz, and the party to which we are attached, there should be affixed some principle of exclusion ; and would it be wise that offence should be given to that vast community of which we are members, by making. our religious creed the groundwork of our disqualification ? —(H , .•ar.) The Irish people, putting the pretensions of individuals aside, are not to be held in such light ac count, and they send into Parliament too m any mem bers devoted to the Government to permit a system which once unhappily prevailed to be any longer adopt ed.—(Cheers.) By associating with the Government individuals enjoying the confidence of the Irish people, the Government is strengthened, and in this view all reference to the merits of those individuals may be put aside. I make no doubt that at the opening of the next session the Ministers will present to their antagonists a force which will render all the efforts of their antago nists vain.-4 Cheers.) The Tories speak with great affected reliance on their success in breaking up the Government ; hut they have held the same language for three sessions, and none of their predictions have come to pais. It is true that they have been able to baffle the Government in the Lords, but look to the signal success of the Ministers in various great trans actions, and then consider how little ground there exists fur that despondency to which some amongst us are too apt to give way.---,(Cheers.) The civil war in Spain is at an end—the affairs of Belgium and of Holland have been adjusted—the difficulties arising from the Mexican blockade are at an end—the Indian expedition has been t riumphant, and a treaty of incalculable importance with Austria has been concluded—surely the people of Eng land will attach more importance to those great events, than to the declamations against Popery, w;th which an ippeal has recently been made to their religious prediees.—( Hear.) I might dwell at great length on the momentous topics on which I have touched, but this is not the appropriate place.—(Hear, bear.) Igo back to England, and if I had nothing but the success of the Government in this country to rely upon, I might rest on that success as a ground of perfect con fidence in the stability of the Administration. " Yeu have lost Cambridge," said a Tory to me in London, " Yes," I replied, "but we have kept Ireland, and Ireland we shall always retain."—(Loud cheers.) How could the Lords govern this country ? They must re sort to c )ercive measures, which the House of Com mons would probably not carry ; and if the House of COmnionS did carry them, then the army in Ireland inust he'doubled. There were in Ireland 23,000 troops in 1534 ; there are now only 13,000 ; and since 1831 the police has only bccn increased by 300 men. Would such a tni:itary cstablishinerit be sufficient if the Tories came into office ? Rightly did Sir It. Peel exclaim, when he gave his famous explanation—" My great difficult,' lies in Ireland."—(Hear, hear.) True, and the tild e:lloes would he far greater than the Hon. Baronet anticipates. His own party, if in power, would be dis tracted and divided on Irish. questions. In any mode rate policy the Irish Orangemen, and a seetion of his English supporters, would never acquiesce. A vast in crease of force would be indispensable. That increase of force would require new taxes, and, strongly as England may deprecate Popery, England would de precate new taxation more. From Canada the Tories would find it impossible to bring troops to Ireland, for in Canada these difficulties would be augmented by the treatment which Ireland would sustain at theirhands. —( Hear.) " The Irish Catholics were faithful in Upper Canada," says Sir F. Head, "to a man." I rejoice at it, and trust that their fidelity never will be affected. But in the fortunes of this country they take a profound interest, and if they shall see that country prostrate and surrendered to Orange domination again, lown that I ap prehend that the enthusiasm of their attachmeat to Eng land may be injuriously impaired.—( Hear.) These arc most serious considerations, which every moderate Conser vative should reflect and pause before he expresses a hope that a Tory Administration, with all its hazardous concomitants and fearful results, should be again restored to the abuse of power in the British empire. I verily believe that many a man votes on the Tory side from the inevitable necessities to which party subjects men in the House of Commons, who would look with alarm on the realisation of those prophesies in which the To:y journalists so ostentatiously indulge. An opposition of a character more than progressive, an opposition united and consolidated—as oppositions always from their na ture must become—a Government made up of the re presentatives of discordant sections of Conservatism— foreign powers emboldened in aggression by the internal distraction of the country—lreland organised and die ' co ntented, with augmenting power and increasing resent ) ment—more troops, more taxes, more Churtism,more of all that good and wise men concur in deprecating ; these, then, would be the results of a Tory Administration. — (Loud cheers.) Mr. Sheil concluded by referring to topics snore immediately connected with the c ounty of Tipperary, stated that no pledge had been demanded from him, and announced that active measures would be taken to renew and extend the registry. The election then terminated. Count D'Orsay has been staying at St. Leo nard's during the past week. The Count returned to Ken sington Gore on Monday. BIRRINGHAM RIOTS. MONDAY, Strr. 16. The examination of witnesses by tl:e Con mittee of the own• Council, was resumed this morning. Aldo.- ' man Sturge in the chair. William Middlemore, of Edgbaston, currier, &c., ex unlined :--The last witness, Daniel Mason, is in my employ, and has been so for the last eight or ten years. He is thoroughly honest, industrious, and sober, and has acquired the goodwill of the whole manufactory, consisting of one hundred people, from his kindly disposition. On the night on which be received the injuries of which be complained, he had been directed with a shopmate to sleep at the manufactory, for its pro• tection. The place where he states he received the injuries from the soldier is in the direct road from his house to my manufactory. I waited upon the Magistrates the following morning, and saw Mr. Francis Clark, at the Public Office, to whom I made a representation of the case. He expressed regret at what had happened. At the same time, to the hest of my recolleciiou, lidding, " That the soldiers and police had meived directions from the Magistrates to discharge their duties without unnecessary violence." Win. ;ames. of Aston-road, tailor, examined work for Mr. Chilton, in Aston-street. On the sth of July I went on business to meet Mr. Mogg, a customer of ours, at the Wheat Sheaf, in Digbeth. I was returning home a little after 9 in the evening, and was crossing the end of Park -street, where there were, I should think, from fifteen to twenty of the London police standing. With the exception of the police and some soldiers, there was no one about. One of the policemen, who stood outside the others, pushed against me, and forced me into the body of the police. I was laid hold of by several of them ; they searched me all over, as I understood, to ascertain if I had any weapon upon me. They, however, found nothing, and did not pretend to have found an}•thing. Whilst the search was going on, some of them struck tne upon the head. I put up my h Bends to save the blows, which otherwise must have Knocked my brains out. The blows were still continued, and were received upon my arms, whiclrwere bruised. They swore at me, and asked me, what I had been doing. I answered, I had done nothing, and said nothing, which was the truth. One said, " You d—d rascal, come along with me." 1 said, " I will go any where you like to take me, rather than be beat in this way." Policemen No. 1 and No. 27 then took me to the public-office, where two Magistrates were sit ling.. No. 1 charged me before the Magistrates with striking him, at the end of Park -street, and No. 27 said he witnessed it. I denied it, saying it was not likely I should have struck a policeman, when so many other policemen were about him. The Magistrates re manded me until next day, for further examination. About three o'clock next day I was again taken before the Magistrates. Policeman No. 1 being sworn, said I had struck him several blows the previous evening, but he did not say under what circumstances. He said policeman No. 27 witnessed it, and he said he had another witness, Mr. Muntz. I asked Mr. Muntz to be examined, as I believed he would not have taken a false oath, if the policeman would, but the Magistrates said Mr. Muntz was not required, there were witnesses enough. Policeman No. 27 was then sworn, and said he was witness to the blows, but he did not state under what circumstances they were given, nor did the Ma gistrates inquire. The Magistrates committed me to take my trial for the assault. I tried to sand to my friends with the view of getting bail, and for this put pose applied to one of the Birmingham police, and offered to pay any thing in reason for the trouble. He did not do so, and afterwards told ma ha had not time to do it. The next day (Sunday) 1 was taken with others to Warwick gaol, where 1 lay until eight o'clock on Monday night, when I was sent for before a Ma gistrate, to enter into my own reeosrnizances, my father and Mr. Chilter having. as I learnt, already given bail in Birmingham. I was bound to an swer any charge which might be preferred at the Assizes. I attended at the Assizes ; a bill was round for the assault. 1 pleaded not guilty on the Friday, and on Wednesday following I was brought up far trial, when one of the Counsel briefly stated to the Court that I was charged with the assault, but that he declined to offer any evidence, and I was discharged the same night. I never attended any of the meetings in the Bull-ring or at Holloway-head. I was perfectly sober on the night I was assaulted. I had had nothing to drink that night. The policeman seemed sober. When the police laid hold of me, I did not resist or struggle. Even if I bad been guilty, there was not the least ne cessity to have struck me, in order to have taken me into custody. On the road to the police-cflice, police man No. 1 struck me several times with his staff. I was . then walking quietly along with them, and did not re sist, or express any unwillingness to go. I told them not to knock me abaut. I would go anywhere with them. On the way, Policeman No. 1 std to me, " You struck me, did you ?" I said, " I have not, and you know that very well." Whereupon, he gave rue a poke with his staff, with which he kept pushing me on. He was a little behind me, and Policeman No. 27 had hold of me. Policeman No. 1 directly after said to his comrade, " hold him still." 1 did not resist, we ail stopped, when Policeman No. 1 took a pair of hand cuffs out of his pocket, when I said, " What ! are you going to put those on ? are you afraid 1 shall run away ?" To which he replied, •" There is nothing like making sure ;" and p!aced them upon my wrists. We were then in High-street, about ten or twenty yards above the end of Moor-street. Having placed the handuffs on, Policeman No. 1 gave me another blow across the shoulders, and said, "Go on." I had not objected to go on. I found they did not know their way to the Public Office, and so took me some distance round. James Gretton, of No. 5, Ludgate Hill, press tool maker, examined :—I ha‘e observed the Bull-ring meetings on several occasions, when passing down, but never stopped to hear what was said. They were always very quiet, and I never experienced any annoyance or obstruction from them. When I saw them, the roadway and footpaths were always clear, and persons and ve hicles passed along without any obstruction. On Mon day the Bth of July, I had been into Digbeth, about nine o'clock in the evening. As I came up High- street, a large body of the London police were coming down ; there was no crowd, and nothing more than the ordinary traffic going on ; they halted a few yards before they came to the end of New street, whereupon I stopped upon the footpath. I saw two of the policemen running after several persons who were walking along, singly, and, as it seemed, upon their business. One of the policemen shoved a man, who was walking on, with his staff, saying, " you, move on, or we'll put some life into you, or take that out you've got in." I was only two or three yards distant, and distinctly heard these words ; it occurred upon the foot-path in High-street. The man had not been standing, and seemed desirous of getting. on as fast as he could. When so treated by the po liceman, he quickened his pace, and went off. He seemed like a working man. Directly after, there was another respectable man, who seemed like a clerk, coming in the same orderly way, when another of the policemen went after him, and shoved him on with his staff, telling him to move on ; he followed him to the corner of New -street, the man kept moving on, without speaking, and when near the corner of New street, the policeman struck him a blow with his staff; the man said nothing, but moved off. I saw the police go after several other persons, shoving them on ; some they stopped and searched their persons, but I did not see that they found anything. The people I.have de scribed were all moving on, and there was noresistanet. cff!red. Tile people Were not Shouting, or offering any insult whatever to the police, or others. I was not molested ;- and, although I was standing to observe what passed, I was not. told to move on. Edward Savage, of No. 13, Great Bow-street, shoe maker, examined—l work ter Mr. George Haines, of 801 l Barn-road. On the evening of the 15th of July. between seven and eight o'clock, I left my employ, anti went, with two or three neighbours, to attend a meeting at Holloway-bead. The last speaker had just finished, and was descending the chair. A. man got up :.n the chair, and directed the people to go round b\ Lucy's Mill, down Holloway-head, and up Suffolk street, along Ann•street, and down Bull-street, and then they might go where they liked, meaning, as I understood, that they were then to break up, and go home. Another got up, and told them to go across the green instead of round the mill, as the nearer way, which they did, arm in arm. I and William Cooper, who was with me, -went on first to the bottom of Suffolk-street, where we stopped till the procession came up. There was a great number present. Henr) Wilkes then got upon some steps, and told them to go down Smallbrook-street, along St. Martin's-lane. down Digbeth, and along the Warwick-road,iNt,oarnwirceit, Lovett and Collins, mho were coming . from beard that night. I left him speaking, s t a o y c n o o o t p h e in r g , , r , n c or o e me tha o n n, w i ha d t ar l e havehatv the s n e t g at e greaterd . part standof the b r y n mob will Nelson's monument otnburmo%gnitib atnhde seßa:L: i f: l hs ' vet r eirmie) minutes ean s a uas n tin: d as v vv • nf e t c ' 1 the Monument till th, went accordingly, and stai wmobc got t came,t e re . whichThe ow greateras in ab p o pr t y t four wpeien o et a r a, long. S t. Martin's lane, but 300 or 400 came . S o m ns " of l i l m ad N rm The mob having passed, I avid downkniontdt, then, or oerveanyeven Bull-ring sot itc. k t s o . towards , r as s s ID saw,igu n . y T we h a e p Cooper wen t to the end of Moor - street, where a parcel o! op about a dozen, were talking. I observed, in par ,p ticular, a man in a barragan jacket addressing five o s i x persons around him. I did not hear what hu said, but a London policeman came up to him al(' collared him. Tne max said, " What are you goi to take me for ?" Policeman said, " I have lea ti enough of what you have said." Then another policy • man laid hold of him, and the two were taking 'him aw, y up Moor -street. Some of those whom he had been a., dressing cried, " Don't let them take him," and we• t and collared the policemen. A struggle tork I place; in the course of which the man was rescued i l having lost hi s h at . Th e po li ce struc k t h ree o r fon. , who assisted to get him away. Theme were no blow , given in return ; and directly the man was rescued thei all ran away. Th e man ran dow n the Bull-ring with: EV IzNING 1-,MITT ON. out his hat, followed by myself and companion, and about a dozen others. When near the Cock-pump, the man stopped, and we came up with him. The man said, Let's go along the Warwick-road, and tell the mob." They all agreed, and started off ; the man who had been rescued running first, without his hat. I and my companions followed him as far as Deritend Bridge, when we lost sight of him. We continued on along High-street, Deritend, until we got by Trinity Chapel, when we were overtaken by the man who had been rescued, who then had a hat on. There were about a dozen people with him. W e went on towards Spark brook ; and, when about a hundred yards from the chapel, we overtook the mob, who were going on slowly towards the Warwick- roa d. T hey were not then armed even with sticks, and were not shouting, or doing more than encouraging one another to go on to meet Lovett and Collins. They were not so numerous as when they passed by the Bull-ring. TUESDAY, SEPT. 17. Mr. Alderman Sturge in the chair. The examina tion of Edward Savage was resumed this morning, and is as follows : When the man who had been rescued got up to the mob, he went amongst them, and said, the London police were dropping on the people iu the Bull-ring. I was about three 'yards from him when he said this, and I am quite sure he addressed the mob as I have stated. From the way be spoke he might be heard by fifty or sixty, and they directly told it to others, so that it quickly spread through the whole. The man also said, " They (the police) had tried to take him, but he had got away from them ; and that they, (the mob) were cowards it they did not go back and hammer them." One of the mob, a youth about eighteen, then jumped over some wooden pail ings, which were before a garden opposite to the Ship public-house, and in the main road oetweeu Bradford street and Itavenhurst-street ; and, saying, " Come on ' t my lads, we'll give it 'em," pushed down the palings from the inside int o th e roa d. Ab ou t 200 o f the mob, I which was about a quarter of the whole, then broke up the palings, and, arming themselves with them, turned round, and proceeded by way of Deritend and Dig beth towards the Bull-ring. There were a great many women with the mob. I and my companion left . them, and went down Bradford -street ; and many of those who did not arm went in the same direction, and - also down Cheapside. I beard some of these say, they would not go with those who had armed, through fear of the soldiers. My companion accompanied me across Smithfield, and up Jamaica-row, as far as S,mdamore's, when be left mc, saying, h e w as I afraid of the soldiers. I continued on up Spiceal-street and High -street, and stopped at the end of New street. When I passed up High -street the armed mob had not arrived. At that time there were more people than usual moving up and down the Bull-ring, but there were none stationary. It was light, and I could see clearly down the Bullring. I had not stood at the corner of New-street many minutes before I saw the mob coming up the Bull-ring, from Digbetb. They none of them seemed very willing to come on ; and some few walking by their side encou• ra g ed them by beckoning them, and a man who stood a little above Moor -street, cried out, " Come on." I should think the mob at this time - was not quite 200 ; and as they approached Moor-street; I observed one nese among them armed with an iron bar, five or six f,rt long, forked at one end. It looked like a prop. The man who had it had on a velveteen jacket, and ap peared to be a boatman. There were also two other men with flannel jackets on, who looked like lime burners. Most of the person's composing the mob appeared to be under twenty one years of age, and those who came first appeared to be very ' young men. There were no women among them. 1 saw them turn out of the Bull- , ring into Moor-street. Some of the mob, however, stopped at the end of Moor-street. The shops were mostly shut when I first went up High -street, and when it became known that the mob were coming armed, the remainder of the shops were hastily closed. When the mob turned into Moor -street, I left the corner of New -street, and passed down Carr's-lane into Moor area, and stood at the end of Castle-street, with some coachmen. The mob was then in front of the Public Office, shouting and crying, " Come out and we'll give it you." 1 heard some windows broken, and then saw a piece of piling thrown against the Public Office windows. The mob did not stand close together, and I could have passed through them without difficulty. To the hest, of ray knowledge, there were not more than 150 persons, and they were mostly strong lads. Every time a window broke, some of them ran away, as if' afraid. I heard a cry that the police were coining with fire arms, and the mob ran along Moor-street to the Bull-rine'; this was about ten minutes after I first saw them ill front of the. Public Office. I did- not see the police come out. At the state time the cry of. police was given, it was said the soldiers were 1 coming. I then went up Castle-street and Union street, and down the Union-passage into • New -street, when I saw a good many people tong up New-street, looking behind them, as if in'expsetatioreof the soldiers. Some of them hail pieces of palings in their bands, others threw them down in the street. They were not walking in a body, but straggling along. I there again saw the roan with the iron bar. I went down New street and High -street, as far as Philip-street. There was then scarcely anybody in the Bull-ring. I stood at the corner of Philip -street a minute or two, and saw some of the mob with palings at the bottom of the Bull-ring towards Digbeth, and others at the bottom of Spiceal-street, by Mr. Scudamorc.-'s. I walked down towards the latter, and heard some young chaps among them say, " Come on, let's go and drop on the police as they come out.' They then all moved up Spiceal-street and towards Moor -street, and called out to those at the bottom of the Bull ring, and to others near the corner of New -street, to come to them, and they did come. I do not think that altogether they amounted, at this time, to quite a 'winched. I came and stood in the Bull-ring, near .the church gates, and heard some of the mob at the corner of Moor-street say, that if they went up Moor -street, the soldiers would come in both directions, and the police would then come out and cut them up. There were then many parsons standing on the foot paths looking on, as if from curiosity, but in no way encouraging the mob. I then left, and went home to my supper. I am not aware that any windows had been then broken, except at the Public Office. I was not armed myself, and took no part whatever in the proceedings of the mob at any time, but observed all I ave described from curiosity. 1 did not hear the ;el!tnan that day giving notice of a meeting at Hol bvny-head. I had heard that such notice had ',wen given, and that Mr. Attwood was to take the chair. It was in consequence of this that I went to the meeting. After I got home, I heard that Mr. Bourne's house was on fire, but I did not go to see. 1 am in regular employment, and have worked for my present employer four years, and am just turned twenty-one . years of age. I did not bear any of the mob say anything about burning or destroying pro perty. Their only okect seemed to be to drop on the London police. I heard one of the mob say he should 6e glad to help them, for one of them (the police) brake his bead last week. The mob seemed always so much afraid, that I believe, had the police at any time come out, they would have all run away. After the mob passA through the Bull-ring, on their way to tan Warwick-road, I saw Wilkes come up the towards New-street. When the rescued man asked the mob to come bi.ck and drop on the police, some f‘r.7., of them objected, and said, " Let's go on, and net Lovett and Collins, and hear what they've got to. ay ;" but theme was no regular speech made. never he'ionscd to the Political Unions, or Chartists, or. any thing else. SUICIDE FROM DISTRESS.—On Wednesday an uquest was bold hr fare Mr. Wakley, M. P., an i d ,as a .b j e u e ry, f at a w Red House public-house, College -street, Chelsea, on view of the body of S Inlet Hodgson, aged 45, who cora • Tate(' self devra,:ii,. a by hanging himself on "Sunday not &rig last. IC nppeared from the evidence that the un. 'flrokll--tcellar of d h e i his .d, eldesti,ubut 4‘:e or pig :gene.,4o on t u hb i osu a ir t ,s,go e e: banging mart, ap a : :, i,.., ja vi ta :: i inei w cpo a tit s .idrk a di .tai on gea. turner sitiao tHoek b e y i in: tr act a soh d l icie ; nubility t o procure sufficient employment to support his family, who were very much distressed. About setreu D :t__id ,'clock on Sanday morning ionf h s e anno t: a a yv s ,a d ii_ i . scovere u d ite b y lis b o dy was still warm. Medical assistance The ury return_ ' J "" 1" ,, e ; brought on by Poverty." y scv es e t n e c rd h a il y dren cr to u ta e l 3 ly . FLOOD IN THE CLY : r i havtocerlddyext.ten(sf cd, procured,Thea Temporary u pl t (ex w fat a r ays endow unprovided for. lay) the Clyde was swollen to a great extent by the inces ,int heavy Nin a we h ave h a d during the last week. The tat :r was completely over the quay at the time of high :rater, and the banks suffered severely in some places. The •ity wharf was covered, and part of the Pallets' Haugh ; and the people in l3ridegate were alarmed or the water coming up and flooding their dwellings. The 'ootpath down to Govan was inundated, and the passage that way was completely stopped. Two boys (brothers), at the name of Mortison, the one about twelve and the o•her about fourteen years of age, were amusing themselves .vading on the bank of the flooded river at the foot of the Burn-row Paisley. The younger brother of the two ven •ured too f.ar, aia * l falling over the breast, was swept off with the currant. The oldest, in endeavouring to save ,is brother, shared the same fate. The poor &Vows were ,oth seen alive when carried past the old budge (a distance if nearly a quarter of a mile), and the youngest was stopped `iy the supports for the railway arch, still farther down, and 4 . 0 t out in life.— Glnspoze Chronicle. DESTRUCTIVE FIRE.—On Wednesday night, about a quarter past ten o'clock, a fire broke out Ira Frith. .t 04, Soho square, in the workshop of Mr. Serie, book '.finder, situated at the hack of his dwelling-hcuse, No. 19, on the east side of the street. Engines from all guar rers of the metropolis soon arrived, and were brought to ;,lay on the fire with remarkable alacrity. Nearly half an tour, ho,tevcr, elapsed before any effect was I rodneoi on he f 1 .,,,,, whic:, during that time raged with terrible furry foe fire was got tir.7er by half-past eleven. The property lestroyed is to a serious extent. Nearly the whole of the c, , rshcps are reduced to ruins and the contents consumed. there are several houses in Frith-street damaketl. The mhole is said t') be insured. •