The Sun. — London, England, 1844-03-19 00:00:00

is , s t i t i rm - . • SUN OFFICE, 'Seven o' 'loch. PRICES OF SHARES IN CANALS, RAILWAYS, BANKS, ASSURANCE AND OTHER COMPANIES' STOCK. LONDON, TUESDAY, MARCH 19. Dividend per • Amount (Names of Com- of panies. I Share. Paid. i Price. Aiimun. Canals. .€ s. d. Ashton and Oldham... 97 18 0 Ashby.cle.la.Zouch_av 113 0 0 Basingstoke ....» i 100 0 0 Breckneck & Ahergay. : 150 0 0 Birmingham,l.l6ttish. 915 0 Do. and Liverp. Jut.C. 100 0 0 Chehner & Blackwaler 100 0 0 Coventry ....„„..... . 100 ( 0 Crom ford .—...... ..... lOO 0 0 Dudley ....___ ..... „ 160 0 0 Derby.... .. ..„,.. lOO 0 0 Danube an.d.Mayne.,„ 41 13 4 Ellesmere and Chester 151 0 0 Erewash .. —. ..... lOO 0 0 Forth and ...... lOO 0 0 Grand Junction......._ 100 0 0 Grand Union lOO 0 0 Grand Surrey lOO 0 0 Grand Western........— 100 0 0 Glamorgansh., ay. coat 172 13 4 Gloucester & Berkeley 100 0 0 Grantham ....... ...... -.. 150 0 0 Huddersfie;d ..... ....ay 57 6 6 Kennet ..id Avon ...av 39 18 10 Lancaster .. ........ ...av 4 7 6 8 Leeds and ILiv e rpool lOO 0 0 Leicester l4O 0 0 Leicester & Northamp. 83 10 0 L oug hborough ........av 142 17 0 Monmouthshire lOO 0 0 Monjapmcryshire lOO 0 0 Melt. 'llNowbray lOO 0 0 Mersey and Irwell lOO 0 0 Macclesfield lOO 0 0 Neath lOO 0 0 Oxford lOO 0 0 Peak Forest 2v 78 0 Regent's (or London).. 33 16 8 Roch 125 0 0 f e av 85 0 0 Shro ire Some set Coal. l5O 0 0 Da. Lock Fund Stock 12 10 0 Statibrd and Worcester 140 0 0 Shrewsbury 125 0 0 Stourhridge 145 0 0 \Stratford.on.Avon...av 7 9 9 8 Swansea..„.... .......'._ „ 100 0 0 Severn & Wye & Rai 26 9 3 Trent & Mersey, 1 4 sh. 50 0 0 Thames & Medway..av 16 5 8 Warwick and firming. 100 0 0 Warwick and Natiton... 100 0 0 W,,rcester & firming. 78 8 0 Wilts and Berks.,....ae 67 10 0 Wisbeach Wry and Arun..... 110 0 0 .. Docks. Commercial East and West India London Ditto Bonds Bristol av Do.Bnds,var. amounts St. Katharine. Ditto Bonds Ditto Bonds Southampton 100 0 0 Stock Stock 147 9 0 Stock 59 - 0 0 "'ridges Hammersmith ... Southwark, new Subs. Ditto New of 7% pr c. Water 100...„....„........ Ditto Old Ann. of S/,. Ditto New thi to of 71. Ditto Bonds _.. Vauxhall. ...... ........av Assurances. Albion Alfred Lite Alliance Brit. and For Ditto Marine Atlas Birmingham Fire British Fire British Commercial Cler. Med. & Gen. Life County Eagle ........ Economic Life ...... 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Ditto New... ..... ......... 50 0 0 63 2 8 50 0 0 100 0 0 70 10 3 500 0 0 25 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 250 0 0 250 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 1000 0 0 20 0 0 I 20 020 0 0 0 I stock i 100 0 0 25 0 0 25 0 0 500 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 25 0 0 20 0 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 100 0 0 5 0 9 Stock 100 0 0 100 0 0 20u 0 0 40 0 0 50 0 0 1(1!► 0 0 100 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 100 0 0 10 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 20 0 0 50 O. 0 25 0 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 40 0 0 20 0 0 77 10 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 20 0 0 20 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 75 0 0 50 0 0 50 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 30 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 50 0 0 50 0 0 50 0 0 Water Works. Birmingham East London Grand Junctu.n.......av Kent Nw Riv lon. Britlg An Manchester and Salford Vauxhall, late S. Lond. West Middlesex av Yrk BuldgCo.Les.Prop 25 0 0 100 0 0 41 13 4 100 0 0 30 0 0 100 0 0 03 12 9 100 0 0 Iron IZailways. Birmingham & Derby Birmiug. & Gloucester Bristol and Exeter Cheltenhm & Gt. West Clarence ...... Eaitern Counties Edinburgh & Glasgow Ditto New Grand linction. Great North of Engind (yea Western Ditto Half Shares Ditto Fifths •••••••••••••• Hull and Selby ...... Ludt and Selby., Liverpool & Manch .... ear Ditto Half. Shares Ditto Quarter-Shares Loudon and Brighton Ditto Loan Notes London and Bl_ckwall London and Greenwich London and Birmingh. Ditto Quarter-Shares Ditto Thirds ••.. ..... ..•• London and S. Western Lortdon and Croyslon Manchester and Lees Ditto New Shares,, Manchstr and Binning Data Extemsion ..... Mid ! 47i.1 Count les North Midland Do. 14-Sh., iss. 1U dis. Northern and Eastern Ditto Scrip, iss. 5/. dis Piris and Rouen ,Stockten & Darlington puth Fast. and Dover Ditto New, iss. 25dis. York and N. Midland Ditto New Shares 100 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 25 0 0 50 0 0 12 10 100 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 50 0 0 10 0 0 16 13 4 12 15 4 100 0 0 32 0 0 41 6 10 13 15 9 100 0 0 50 0 0 70 0 0 70 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 50 1.1 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 Mines. Albinn Copper Alten Anglo Mex., iss.sl. p.m Ditto Subscription Bolanos .......... Ditt . Scrip Brazil. Imp. isa. 5/. p.m Do. Mocaub. & Coe. U. Do. St. John Del .Rey British Iron Candonga., Ditto Registered Cobre Copper Coptapo Columbian, iss. 51. p.m. General Mining Hibernian Imperial Slate Compy Mexican Mining Co t of Ireland Real del Monte, Unreg Ditto Loan Notes Ithyraney Iron Santiago de Cuba United Mex., iss.2l. pm Ditto Scrip Ditto New Scrip..." 5 0 0 15 0 0 100 0 0 150 0 0 35 0 0 25 0 0 20 0 0 100 0 0 20 0 0 20 0 0 55 0 0 20 0 0 50 0 0 10 0 0 60 0 0 25 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 40 0 0 Literary. Londn, wi th Sin. Ticket :London University Russell King's College Miscellaneous Anglo Mexican Mint Australian Agricultur Brit. American Land, Canada Upper Canada Bonds Copper Miners' Comp Oen. Steam Navigation Iberian Mercantile Co. Ditto Property Met. Wood Pay., iss. 1/. Mex. and S. American New Bruns w ick (Land) New Zealand ...... Penins. & Orien. Steam Royal Mail Steam Reversionary Int. Soc. Soeth Australian Thames Tunnel. Van Diemen's Land 75 0 0 100 0 0 25 0 0 10 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 15 0 8 5 0 0 5 0 0 It) 0 0 10 0 C h per cent. 1.1. Pt!colL 81. 15a. 1151. 31 12s. Bd. 15s. 11. 10s. 341. 101. 3 Ys 17s. Gd. 10/. 6 percent. 28 151. 20:. 1/. 10s. 151. 321. 10s. 101. 81. 11. 48. 3 per cent. kai per cent. 4 per cent. 4 per cent. 103. 5 per coat. 5 per cent. 44 pet cent. 4 per cent. 4 per cent. IN per ern t. I/. Os. Id. per cent. 11. is. 3. lON. 4 per cent. 6 per cent. 6 per cent. lat. 6d. .pr sh 51, Ss. 4 per cent. 7s. per share 5 per cent. 3/. 5 per cent. & 30s. bds 5% per cent. 53 per cent. 5 per cent. 6 per cant. 5 5 per . cent. 2s. 6d. 12 per cent. 'l9s. Lab. 804 pd.. 11.5 a. 10s. 'lO9. 5 per cent. 5 per cent. 5 per cent. IL ss. S per cent 8% per cent. • I/. 40. 5 per cent. 10% per cent A per cent 6 per cent. 5 per cent. 5 per cent. 6 per cent. per cent. 8 per cent. S per cent. 6 per cent. 21s per share 6s. per share 10 per cent. 5 per cent. I6s. 11. 5 11. '7s, 5/. and ba. 4 S( 2 /. and bA. 10 per cent. 4 per cent 81 per sh 315 s per sta 2L per cent. 5 per cent.' 6 per cent. 5 per cen t 6 per cent. 414 per cent. 31. 12s. 2!. 103. 21. 10s. 2/. 103. Jsper cent. 41. 16d. 11. 14s. .108. per sh 1/. Is. 4 per cent. 2/. 10e. Ss. per sh. 21. Ss. per sh 7s 10t1 per sh In per cent . 2% per cent. 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' • ''' 1 .. . 11 9_`., l ' ti ~ /24 / 1 (2. ... • 7 4 50 0 X s. d. ioo 0 0 41 13 4 too 0 0 too 1 0 All paid 60 0 0 40 0 0 50 0 0 5 0 0 11 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 55 0 0 50 0 0 5 0 0 i 10 0 10 0 0 5 0 0 250 0 0 All paid 2 0 0 3 0 0 26 10 0 2 10 0 2 10 C 50 0 0 10 0 0 5 13 0 10 0 0 2 0 0 12 10 0 12 10 0 2 10 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 10 0 0 10 0 0 5 0 0 6 5 0 20 0 0 40 0 0 40 0 0 50 0 0 200 0 0 25 0 0 20 0 0 20 0 0 10 0 0 / 10 0 25 0 0 10 0 • 17 10 0 35 0 0 10 0 0 10 0 0 25 0 0 10 0 0 16 0 0 19 0 0 19 0 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 100 0 0 75 0 0 3t 5 0 28 0 0 50 0 0 50 9 0 20 0 0 30 0 0 3900 8000 25 0 0 48 0 0 10 0 0 25 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 .0 70 0 0 SO 0 0 100 0 0 23 0 0 50 0 0 12 10 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 15 0 0 50 0 0 12 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 25 e 0 50 0 0 10 0 0 100 0 0 2 0 0 92 0 0 TO 0 0 30 0 0 40 0 0 7 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 40 0 0 45 0 0 15 0 0 20 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 31 0 13 10 0 100 0 U 25 0 ( 1 150 0 0 21 0 0 25 0 0 15 0 0 75 0 0 7 10 0 7 10 0 40 0 0 13 0 0 55 0 o 20 0 0 10 10 0 3 0 0 59 0 7 u 0 ,150 u 0 50 0 0 10 0 0 40 0 0 - 2 10 0 100 - 0 0 ,100 0 0 10 0 0 30 0 0 35 10 0 32 10 0 3 0 0 14 0 0 1 10. 0 5 0 0 3 0 0 7 0 0 75 0 0 25 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 25 0 50 0 20 0 0 1 100 0 0 O 20 0 0 O 50 0 0 0 , 20 0 0 ?ANIES' PRICES. 844. 10 0 0 10 0 0 10 0 0 10 0 0 12 10 0 1 0 0 2 10 0 50 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 25 9 0 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. GLOBE.—The debate on Lord Ashley's proposition to limit C.o, hours for women and children employed in factories to ten hours, was resumed last night. After a protracted but highly interesting discussion, it was car ried. Sir James Graham had proposed that the blank should be filled up with " twelve " hours ; and was sup ported by the members of the Government. The lesser number of hours was, however, adopted by the Commit tee, by a majority of nine ; the numbers being—for the amendment, 179; against it, 170. Ministers thus sus tained a defeat, which, though not of a party character, is sufficiently mortifying, and may occasion consi derable embarrassment to them on other questions. The observations made by Sir James Graham, after the numbers were announced, showed that he was taken by surprise: He intimated an intention—if, when the question came before the Committee in a more sub stantive form, a similar result was obtained—to abandon the Bill as a Government measure, and thus cast the responsibility upon the House. With this admonition to the adherents of the Government, there is no reason to expect that the clause as it now stands will be adhered to. Lord Ashley, and those who voted with him, will either give way, and allow twelve hours to be intro duced as the limited duration of factory labour, or the Bill will be withdrawn. A reference to our report of the discussion will show that the propositions of Sir James Graham and Lord Ashley were respectively supported and opposed without any reference to mere party politics, and even with an avowed change of opinion in leading individuals, on both sides of the House. Sir George Grey, Lord Howick, Lord John Russell, and others of lesser note on the Oppo sition benches, who had in 1838 and 1839 sup ported the twelve hours term of labour, now spoke and voted in favour of Lord Ashley's proposed limitation of the period of labour to ten hours; while Lord Eliot, and others on the Ministerial benches, who now sup ported the proposition of twelve hours, were then found among the approvers of the ten hours. This change of views, on an important practical question, having no con nection with party, must be referred to the effect produced upon candid and inquiring minds by the force of evidence subsequently adduced. With singular bad taste, and with that unfortunate forgetfulness of striking pas sages in his own history, which he thus brings to the recollection of every body else, Sir James Graham taunted Sir George Grey with an abandonment of his former views on this question ; and thus drew down upon himself another of those rejoinders which such provocations to retaliate generally produce The Right Honourable Baronet opposite had charged him (Sir G. Grey) with personal inconsistency with regard to his vote of 1839. The Right Honourable Baronet ought to have some little charity on the score of in consistency.—(Laughter and cheers.) Since 1839 much information had been collected, and his regard for consistency should not induce him to disregard the light that had been thrown upon the subject." On the important principles involved in the question which had thus occasioned so striking a change of opi nion, and consequently of action, in some of the leading statesmen of the country, of both parties, it would be deemed boldness, approaching to presumption, were we to express ourselves in terms of positive decision. It becomes us rather to pause and examine, than to commit ourselves to a view, which we may be com pelled, by the force of testimony, to reconsider ; and having done so, to modify, if not reverse, the judg ment we had hastily delivered. With this view we rather refer our readers to the debate, that they may form their own judgment on the case, as presented by the speakers on both sides. They will thus be put in possession of the history of legislative interference with factory labour ; and the effects of that interference on the branches of manufacture to which that interference has applied, and on the rights of capital and the interests of industry, with which it has interfered. We were particularly struck with a passage in Mr. Labouchere's speech, and by a similar one in that of Sir Robert Peel, in which the effects of the pro posed restriction of the hours of labour would have upon the wages of the labourers, are described. Thcugh the ten hours clause only refers to women and children, the clause will, in its practical operation, affect men also ; as the depattments of factory labour in which women and children are employed, must be kept in motion, in order that those occupied by the men may be available to the general design. How is the deficiency in wages, which the diminished amount of labour will occasion, to be supplied ? This excision of one sixth from the earnings of those who will thus be pre vented from pursuing the employments on which they depend fur susbistence, must be followed by privations extending to one-sixth of the aggregate of their present supply. In the times of brisk demand for goods, fabricated by the labour of these persons, their increased wages may bear the diminution ; but when the demand is slack, and wages low—when labour, taxed to its limit, will scarcely procure a sufficiency of bread—the privations inflicted by this well-meant, but questionable benevolence will be increased. By limiting labour, the power of obtaining the essentials of human existence must be, to the same extent, diminished. STANDARD.—The second triumph of the night was a glorious one indeed—" The carrying of Lord Ashley's clause in the Factory Bill by a majority of nine." We lament that her Majesty's Ministers voted in the mi nority. It is the first time they have so voted, because it is the first time they have been wrong. We impugn not their motives. The question is a difficult one, for when did it ever happen that the retreat from a wrong path was not difficult; but the retreat must be made at some time, and the earlier the less its difficulties. In the present case, the difficulties are less than they seem. The simple fact that multitudes of millowners voluntarily work under the terms of Lord Ashley's clause, proves that it is possible to work under these terms, without ne cessarily raising prices or reducing wages. And it is plain, that if mills can be worked profitably at short time, subject to the disadvantage of competition with mills working long time, there can be no reason to doubt that all may be profitably worked when all work short time ? Indeed, we should say, that a single mill working short time, and working at a profit, must be decisive of the whole question, because in eudem tea feria, what one can do all can do —if exer cising equal skill, and contented with equal gain. Looking to the physical view of the affair, we are convinced that the admeasurement of the amount of la bour by hours is altogether erroneous. The disco very has long since been made that in money taxation two and two do not always make four, but some times make only one ; and the observation applies just as properly to a taxation of the energies of the human frame. Everybody has heard of the famous Barclay match, to walk a thousand miles in a thou sand hours, and with what toil and difficulty it was accomplished in six weeks by one of the most robust men in England ; but had Captain Barclay been per mitted his ordinary intervals of rest, he would easily have accomplished double the task—say fifty miles a day, in the same six weeks. So it is, in a greater or less degree, with all continued labour. We are doubtful whether, upon the week, more work would not be done, and better done, in fifty-nine than in sixty-nine hours ; but, taking the mend], we have no doubt whatever that more and better work would be done in 236 than in 276 hours, supposing the time dis tributed eqnally through the twenty-four days. Is there any one will say that there is not the difference of more than 20 per cent. between the produce of a healthy and cheerful labourer (be the labourer man, woman, or child) on the ope side, and a sickly, overwrought, dispirited labourer on the other? The lours of labour, therefore, are not the measure of the produce of the labourers' toil, which may be diminished as these hours are augmented; and certainly will be diminished if the labour is prolonged for months, not to speak of years. To be sure there is the shocking hypothesis, that the labourers may be easily replaced as they are worn out, but this is an hypothesis which no one dared to offer. We hope that Lord Ashley's clause is safely moored, but if the subject of it be agitated once more, it is one of those questions that cannot be agitated without good effect—alai if it is, as Sir Robert Peel surmised, but the commencement of a movement for the restriction of labour in all departments of industry, we must rejoice the more at it. Lord John Russell and some of the Whigs, it will be seen, supported Lord Ashley. What ever their motive, whether it was honest, or merely the effect of a temptation to enjoy once in their lives the pleasure of voting in a majority against the Conservative Ministry, we care not—they are now fairly caught, and cannot go back. Sugar, partially on speculation, and stiffer rates paid ; Bengal at rather lower rates; good white at 655, damp and washed 62s to 655, good yellow 62s 6i to 635, middling 58s 6d, damp and washed 57a 6d to 61s per cwt. Foaxlins . .-To- day the market fcr Foreign Sugar presented a firmer appearance. Two floating cargoes of white Maroim sold at 235, deliverable at Trieste, and one for Gottenburg. at 23s per cwt, being fair prices. There is more desire to pur chase yellow Havannah, and holders less inclined to sell. For small parcels of brown Brazil stiffer rates paid ; there was no public sale. MOLASSES.-Prices have declined ls per cwt for West India, Demerara fine at 26s ; St. Kitt's, fair, 24s 6d, fine 25s to 26s per cwt. Bengal Syrup is 18s to 19s per cwt. This after noon fine Demerara Molasses at 25 5 , being Is lower. COCOA.-West India has been in excellent request. Trini dad fine red 58s to 60s, good 56s to 575, low to middling bls to 555, and grey 493 to 54s per cwt. Foreign at 28s to 32s per cwt. TEA.-To-day, the business transacted in Tea was trifling, and prices are drooping; Is Oid taken for common sound Congou cash, is op for good common, and Is 2i i d to Is 3d per lb for ordinary Twankay ; a public sale of 798 pkgs Assam is declared for the 2nd of April. RIOE.-Bengai Rise at 11s 6d for middling white; sea damaged first class went at lls to lis 6d, second ditto 10s 6d to Ils, third and fourth ditto es to 9s 6d per cwt. Foreign East India Rice is held with less firmness; Java at a decline of 6d per cwt ; common yellow mixed with Paddy selling at 8s to 9s, very inferior 8s 3d, and damaged 7s 6d to Bs. by private contract 8s 6d to es 9d accepted for Lombock ; cleaned Rice is in good request, and prices firm. Patna at 14s to 17s, and Carolina 21s to 26s per cwt. COFFEE.-Prices are sustained for West India, the supply being very small and stock nearly all in the dealers' hands. To-day the transactions privately in Ceylon were to a small extent only at 67s 6d to 68s per cwt for goad ordinary ; holders generally show less firmness; there was no public sole. Mocha is wanted, and several parcels sold privately upon former terms. Of gingapore Java, 500 bags were offered at public sale, and taken in at 45s for fine ord yellow, being Is above tha value. The demand for Foreign Coffee was brisker, and stiffer rates paid privately ; for 350 bags of fine ord bold Rio 35s per cwt given, but at auction 1,200 bags Rio were bought in Is to 2s above former rates, viz. :-fine ord green at 375, and good ord at 35s : 2,262 bag. of St. Domingo, nearly all damaged, were offered and went briskly at stiff rates ; first class at 29s 6d to 31s 6d, second class 28s 6d to 30s 6d, third class 27s to 28s, sea damaged repacked 28s to 29s ; •42 bags sound fetched 31s to 325, and black 103 to 12s 6d per cwt. SPICES.-This afternoon Sumatra Pepper at stiffer rates ; common very dusty went at 3d to lid, first class sea damaged 2id to 3d, second and third 2ad to 2id ; 121 bags of white sold id lower, and went at bid to bid per lb for good. 'Vona-Rather lower rates being accepted for Pearl Sago, several parcels have been disposed of privately. Sago Flour ir, lively request, and Is to Os higher; 474 boxes at auction fetched 20s to 20s 6d for middling greyish white ; privately, 21s to 21s 6d paid for good quality. Irenrco.-Spanish at improving rates. To-day East India was in increased request, and Bengal at prices 3d, and in some cases 4d, per lb above those of the last quarterly sale. Rom, BRANDY, AND HOLLAND& -Prices cannot be quoted higher for Jamaica Rum, very fine 34 per cent. overproof high flavour 7s 3d given, 50 puns sold at 3s 2d to 3s 4d for rather foul, 27 to 32 per cent. overproof, and better quality at 3s 6d to 4s per gallon : 200 puns at 3s 4d to 5s 6d for low to fine quality, 30 to 37 per cent. overproof. Leewards proof at 2s 2d to 2s 2id per gallon. Demerara 35 per cent overproof at 3s Id, and 37 over, fine 3s 3d per gallon. Calcutta is in request, and 200 casks sold at Is 10d to Is 11d, proof strength for Brandy, holders remain firm.-Cognac, best brands of the vintage of 1838, libds 5s 11d, puns 5s 9d ' • 1839, hhds ss, 8 0 , puns 5s 641 ; 1840, hhds 5s 6, pans 5s 4(1; 1841, hhds 5s sd, puns 55 3d; 1842, nets 5s 4d, puns 5s 2d, middling marks 3s 6d to 4s 6d, and inferior 33s lld to 3s 5d per gallon. Geneva, shipping sorts at is 9d to Is 10d, and fine for duty at 2s 3d to 3s per gallon. English Corn Spirits at lOs 2d, and Gin 22 per cent. underproof at 8s 8d per gallon. This after noon for Demerara Rum 38 per cent over proof 3s 4d refused. Leewards proof at 2s 2d, and Calcutta at Is lld proof. Jamaica prices are firm. OiLs. -In common descriptions of Fish Oils holders have shown firmness, and obtained 341 15s to 351 for pale Seal, 31/ lOs to 341 for Cod, and 331 to 341 fur fine Souther ; the latter, of low to good quality, fetched 30115 s to 3215 s per ton. Sperm 701 lOs to 71/ for good; Headmatter 76/ 5s to 771 10. Linseed Oil at 27s to 27s 3d on the spot ; Rapeseed Oil pale at 35s 6d, and brown 34s 6d per cwt ; Palm fine, 28s to 28s 6d per cwt. Cocoa nut Oil at 28s 6d to 32s pee cwt ; Olive Oil firm, Gallipoli 471 to 47/ 10s, Spanish 431 to 441, and Barbary 421 to 43/ per tun. TA LLOW.-Prices are firm for Russian on the spot. P. Y. C. of first quality at 40s 6d to 41s 3d per cwt; for delivery for the last three months of the year at 41s 9d to 42s per cwt. South American sold at 30s to 40s 6d for low soft to fine bard quality ; very inferior soft 28s to 29s ; Ibrail fetched 403 to 41s 3d, and New York 38s to 39s 6d per cwt. Town Tallow at 41s to 42s net cash. This afternoon P. Y. Candle of prime quality in good request, at 41s to 41s 3d and 42s for delivery in the last three months of the year. HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat at the Wool sack Shortly after Five o'clock. The Three-and-a-Half per Cent. Annuities (1818) Bill, the Three-and-n-Half per Cent. Annuities Bill, and the Consolidated Fund Bill, were severally read a third time and passed. A Message from the House of Commons brought up several Bills, which were read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday. Lord CAMOYS presented a petition from Paisley, complaining of the exclusion of Catholics from the jury lists in the late State trials in Dublin. The Bills on the table were forwarded a stage, and he House then adjourned till Thursday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. Mr. HARDY presented three petitions in favour of the Bradford and Leeds Railway. _ The report on the Lancaster and Carlisle Railway Bill was further considered and received. On the motion of Mr. MONCKTON MILNES, the report on the Great Western Railway Bill was further considered and received. Colonel SIBTHORP presented petitions from places in the county of Lincoln, against any alteration in the corn-laws. Mr. Alderman HUMPHERY presented 54 petitions, signed by 9.400 persons in Southwark, praying for a re duction of the duty on tobacco and snuff. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD presented a petition from Rochdale, complaining of the monopoly enjoyed by railways in the conveyance of goods, and praying the House to interfere. Mr. M. GIBSON presented petitions from Manchestcr signed by 22,000 persons, praying the House to tyke into its consideration the state of the representation of the people, and also praying the House to abolish the corn-laws ; and that they would take into their consi deration the misgovernment of Ireland; and also discuss the grievances of the people before granting the supplies. THE LONDON GAZETTE (THIS EVENING.) BOARD OF GREEN CLOTH, ST. JAMES'S-PALACE MArecu 19, 1844. Notice is hereby given, that the carriages coming to her Majesty's Drawing-room, on Monday, the 25th of March, are to fall into the line at the top of St. James's-street, come down the left hand side, and enter at the iron gate nearest to the Palace, set down at the Arcade, return by the iron gate nearest to Marlborough House, and pass through Pall mall into St. James's-square, by George. street. When called, they are to pass from St. James's-square, by Charles-street, into Regent-street, Jermyn-street, come down St. James's-street as before, take up and go away through within the gates. Fcr all persons having the privilege of the entree, tickets will be delivered at the Board of Green Cloth, on Friday neat, between the hours of eleven ann three o'clock ; their carriages are to cuter the gate at Constitution-hill, proceed down St. James's-park, through Stable-yard, into the Ambassadoec-court, set down, and go out into Cleveland-row. The carriages of the Ambassa dors, Foreigo Ministers, Cabinet Ministers, and Great Officers of State may afterwards wait in the Ambassadors'-court, and those of all other persons having the entree may wait in Stable-yard or St. James's-park till called; they ar then to take up in the same order as they had set down and pass away up the left hand side of St. James's, street. No carriage will be admitted with company a second time with thesame ticket, to prevent which, it must be pro duced at Constitution-hill-gate, and Stable-yard-gate also, where a corner of it will be torn off by the Marshalmen in attendance ; and no person can be allowed the privilege of the entree by any other approach to the Palace than the gates last mentioned. LIVERPOOL, Lord Steward. ST. JAMES'S PALACE, MaitcH 13. ...._ The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of Knighthood upon Colonel R. Nickle, Knight of the Royal Ilanoverian Guelphic Order. CROWN-OFFICE, MARCH 19. MEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT. County of Londonderry—Thcmas Bateson, of Be:voir-park, in the county of Down,Esq., in the room of R Bateson, Esq., deceased. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, MARC'S 18. Corps of Royal Engineers—Second Captain and Brevet Major 'l'. Foster to be Captain, vice Lewis, retired on full-pay ; First Lieut. R. C. Moody to be Second Captain, vice Foster; Second Lieut. W. M. Inglis to be First Lieutenant, vice Moody, March 6. Commission by his Royal_Highness the Lord Warden of the Sta unaries. The Royal Cornwall and Devon Miners Regiment—Edward Wm. Wynne Pendarves, Esq., to be Lieutenant-Colonel- Commandant. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of Roxburghshire. Dumfries, Roxburgh, and Selkirk Regiment of Militia—J, Scots, Esq , to be Captain, Feb. 16. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Lanarkshire. Airdrie and Upperward Yeomanry Cavalry of Lanarkshire— Cornet J. T. Brown to be Lieutenant, vice M'Kirdy, resigned; J. Stainton, Gent., to be Cornet, Match 13. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Linlithgowshire. J. Dundas, Esq., to be Vice Lieutenant, May 26, 1843. The Hen. the Lord Dalmeny, M.P., to be Deputy Lieutenant ; the Hon. C. Hope, M.P., to be ditto.; J. N. Hog, Esq., to be ditto. ; G. Falconar, Esq., to be ditto. ; A. Seton, Esq., to be ditto. ; Jae. 29, 1844. BANK RL PTCY SUPEBSEDED. ROBERT HEFFER, draper, §t,lves, Huntingdonshire. BANKRUPTS. CHARLOTTE STAPLES, milliner, Southampton, to surrender, March 25, at two, and May 3, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basing hall-street ; Hicks and Braikehridge Baitlett's-buildings, ' Holborn • Clement and Newman, Southampton. JOHN EARLY RIDOUT, wool-draper, Ringwood, Southamptonshire, April 4, at twelve, and May 2, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turqund, official assignee, Old Jewry-Chambers ; Holme and Co., New-inn, Ringwood. JAMES DEACON, draper, Whitcchapel-road, Macrh 26, at half-past two, and May 1, at eleven, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Johnson, official assignee, Basinghall-street; Reed and Shaw, Friday- street, Cheapside. MARY RAMSAY and RALPH RAMSAY, paper-ma nufacturers, Scotswood, Northumberland, April 15, at eleven, and 29, at one, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court. Wakley, official assignee, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; Laws and G ynn, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; Leadbitter, Staple Inn. JOHN FINNEY, builder, Woore, Shropshire, March 27, and April 29, at eleven, at the District Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Birmingham ; Warren, Market Drayion ; Hodgson, Birmingham. JAMES HOWARTH, cotton-spinner, Lee-Mill, Lan cashire, March 30 and April 23, at one, at the Manchester District Court. Pott, official assignee, Manchester ; R. M. and C. Baxter, Lincoln's Inn-fields, London ; Sale and Worthington, Manchester. GEORGE HARDING, grocer, Carlisle, Cumberland, April I, and May 1, at twelve, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court. Baker, official assignee, Newcastle-upon-Tyne ; Hill and Matthews, Bury-court, St. Mary Axe, London ; Hoyle, Neweastle-upon- Ty ne. WILLIAM PAGE WARD, grocer, Liverpool, April 3, and 23, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court. Turner, official assignee, Liverpool; Holme and Co., New Inn, Lon don ; Booker, Liverpool. HENRY GOERTZ, upholsterer, New Windsor, Berks; March 30th at two, and April 30th at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, o ffi cial assignee, Abchstrch-lane, Lom bard-street; Burn, Great Carter-lane, Doctor's-commons; Barton, New Windsor. NOTICES OF INSOLVENCY. F. C. Wollen, tailor, Bath-street, City-road. A. Balfour, lodging-housekeeper, Liverpool. H. Shedden, clerk, Seawall-cottage, Bristol. J. Perry, saddler, Blackmnre, Essex. J. Barns, barge master, Rochford, Essex. J. J. Spiller, attorney, Camomile-street, London-wall. W. Carr, warehouseman, Camden-cottage, Camden-town. W. Sewell, master mariner, Great Yarmouth. J. Bond, tailor, Manchester. J. Yeomans, hatter, Bolton, Lancashire. R. W. Bryant, tailor, Chippenha m , Wilt s hi re . J. King,Wattisham, Suffolk. COURSE OF EXCHJ Amsterdam CF. 12 6i Ditto, at sight l2 • 4 Rotterdam 2U. 12 7 Antwerp 26 0 Hamburgh M.B. 14 0 Altona l4 0 Paris, 3 days' sight 25 75 Ditto, 3 months 26 0 Marseilles Bourdeaux 25 5 Frankfort on Maine 1221 Petersburgh, 3Us 364 Berlin Vienna, effee. ti. 3 M 958 Trieste, ditto Madrid 36:4 Cadiz Uilbao 36 Barcelona 36 SGE.—(THIS DAY.) Gibraltar Leghorn 3O 65 Genoa 26 5 Milan Venice ........ Naples 384 ' Palermo, per oz ll7 Lisbon 53 Oporto 53 Rio Janeiro 23 Bahia 23 Buenos Ayres NewYork,2ldyssight Philadelphia PRICES OF BULLION, PER OZ. Foreign Gold, bars..X3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin 3 17 5 New Doubloons 0 0 0 New Dollars 0 4 9i Silver in Bars 0 4 11A Seville MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current of March 19.) SUGAR..—The dullness in the West India market has further increased, and there being a better and larger show of samples, prices continue to give way, and rule 6d to Is per cwt under those of Tuesday last, making the decline from the highest point this year Is to Is 6d. To-day the West India sugar market presented a heavy ap pearance ; the purchases made for grocery and refining pur poses were trifling; prices are still going down, and the purchases amounted to only 130 hhds, at a reduction on Fri day's rates of 6d per cwt. 11 "nm:b.—Although further reduced rates have been taken for Refined Goods, still the grocers operate with caution, and the market is mu c h better supplied. To-day the trifling busi ness transacted in Refined Goods was at lower rates, brown grocery lum ps selling at 745, a n d s t an d ar d l u mps 75s dto 76s per cwt. Bondad Crushed Sugar little inquired after, and 25s 9(l' per cwt is the regular market price. 12 34 MAURITIUS.—This afternoon the trade were little disposed to do business, and the public sales wentoff heavily at a further 2 182 decline in prices of 6d to Is per cwt; low brown sold at bls 90 good 565, low yellow 58 s to 58s 6d, mid 59s 6d to 61, good 7 4 61s 6d to 62s 6d, fine 65s to 665, very fine bright 67s to 67s 6d, 38 good and middling grey 58 s to 61 s , some lots were taken in. 2S 12 EAST INDIA.--The market has been in a dull state f or 26 Bengal Sugar, at rather lower terms; gourd white went at 655 B '4 to 665, low to mid 62 s to € 4 s , g ood y ellow, 61 s to 61 s 6 d , good I P ( ' brown 54s_ to 565, mid 53 s to 545, l ow 50s Fad, damp and washed of 50s to - 56 s ; 50 casks damp blown sold at 50s per cwt for low 50 quality, white damp . and washed went at 62s to 64s 6d per cwt ; 9 Foreign East India is wanted, and the tendency of prices up -24 wards. To•day a much better demand prevailed for Manilla F. Henry, Caroline-place, Regent's-park. J. Claridge, butcher, Oxford. J. 3lowbray, farmer, Kirton, Lincolnshire. M. Willock, farmer, Halifax. J. Greene, surgeon, Brewood, Staffordshire. E. Burrell, Arundel-street, Strand. J. S. Reynolds, milliner, Reading, Berkshire. W. a Porter, cabriolet owner, Doughty-mews, Russell-square. S. Sampson, bricklayer, Upper Boston-street, Dorset-square. W. L. Grace, commission agent, Essex-place, Dalston. G. Hemming, omnibus driver, Dudley, Worcesterslire. W. Grundy, c abinet-maker, Nottingham. The three days' balloting—Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday—at the United Service Club, has passed over without . Sixty candidates were elected. We wish this improved system of ballot was adopted by a kin dred club, and likewise by another in the neighbourhood of Trafalgar-square.—Naval and Military Gazette. 1417E' SUN, LONDOI4,_ TUESDAY EYEN'T NG, !VIA nen 19, 18e14. which he mentioned, and that they were injurious to the interests of his constituents, he (Sir R. Peel) had no objection to state that he believed them to be entirely without foundation. CO M M ISSARI AT ESTIMATES. Mr. W. WILLIAMS inquired of the Right 111 n. Baronet when would the papers connected with the Commissariat estimates be ready to lay before the House ? Sir G. CLERK said that the doeument3 were in ti P hands of the printers, - and would be mall before the House next week. COMMON LAW COURTS (IRELAND). In answer to a question from Mr. 14i. O'FERRAL, Sir J. GRAHAM said that a Bill on the subject of the common law courts in Ireland would be introduced shortly after Easter. INDIA. Mr. MACAULAY inquired what had caused the delay in the presentation of the papers ordered respecting ti.e [ate occurrences iii India. Sir R. PEEL said he was sorry if any defy rad taken ;place. but he had not been certain whether the House would get the papers printed or not. • The SPEAKER was understcod to say that they should be printed by the Foreign Office. Sir R. PEEL again said he was sorry for the delay. POOR-LAW (SCOTLAND). Mr. E. ELLICE, junior, inquired of the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir J Graham) when would the Commis sioners of Poor-law Inquiry in Scotland send in their Report ? it J. understood front the Noble Lord at the head of the Commis.,ion that the report would be ready to be laid before the House soon after the recess.- THE TARIFF—FOREIGN RECIPROCITY. Mr. RICARDO rose to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice, to the effect—that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to give directions to her servantsnot to enter into any negociations with fo • reign Powers which would make any contemplated altera tions of the tariff of the United Kingdom contingent on the alteration of the tariffs of other countries; and hum bly expressing to her Majesty the opinion of this House, that the great object of relieving the commercial inter course between this country and foreign nations from all injurious restrictions-will be best promoted by re gulating our ewn customs duties as may be most suitable to the financial and• commercial interests of this country, without reference to the amount of duties which Foreiga Powers may think it expe dient for their own interests to levy on British goods. The effect of the course which had been hitherto pur sued was altogether unsatisfactory. Hawing signally failed in obtaining their object by means of nego tiations to extend their exports, it became them to inquire whether they might not arrive a the same end by simple legislation on their imports. The treaties which were in question in 1842 were those with Brazil, with Portugal, Spain, and France. The fate of the first of these treaties had been most pathetically described by the Right Hon. Gentleman the President of the Board of Trade. It was now Nearly understood that the result of all these pro tracted negotiations with Brazil was a handsome propo sition on the part of the Brazilian Government not to raise the duties on our commodities more than 25 per cent., in return for concessions on our part. What the concessions were the Right Hon. Gentleman had not shown; but he ventured to say, however preposterous were the proposals of the Brazilian Government, those of our own Government were so in a four or five-fold degree. Great as was his rc spect for the abilities of the Noble Lord, at the head of the Foreign Department, and of the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government, displayed, as these last were so conspicuously, in making a good case out of bad materials, he could not imagine what arguments they had used in order to entice the Brazilian Government to adopt the course which they re commended. Certainly a proposition to reduce restrictions would not come well from a nation which had imposed a duty of 400 or 500 per cent. upon Brazilian produce. — (Hear, hear, and laughter.) A convention for the sup pression of slavery was one thing, and a treaty of com merce was another, and if slavery were the ground upon which they voted, he would suggest to the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it would not be best togrant compensation to the Brazilian slaveholders, as they had done to the West Indian.— (Hear.) In Spain they had done more than negotiate. The Government of Spain cannot but know that upwards of 300,000 of her people are employed in smuggling, and in smuggling only. And yet with every circum stance apparently in our favour to assist and encourage our commerce, it was a fact that we were further off our point than ever. British influence had never been so low in the Peninsula as at the present moment. - The next commercial convention which had miscarried was that with Portugal, and he need not now point out the derangement in the wine trade which had been occasioned by it. Owing to this circumstance alone there had been a diminution in the usual quantity of wine, amounting to not less than s,oBo,ooogallons. Those interested naturally-remonstrated on the subject, with . the Chancellor of the Exchequer, but instead of redress their position had been aggravated by a fresh impediment, which had grown up to a reduction in the duties on wines, in the shape of a drawback which the Chancellor of the Exchequer had granted to the merchants. So that before any arrangement can be made with Portugal, for every one shilling of duty that may be reduced an enormous sum of money must be paid by us as compensation. This was what had been happily termed by the Honourable Member for Taunton (Mr. Labouchere) always ending, never ending. The Hon. Gentleman then referred to a paper which had been laid on the Table of the House, containing a valuable series of commercial tariffs drawn up by Mr. M‘Greggor. A French gentleman, Mons. Saint Ferrier had laid down the system of commercial policy pursued by France. Amongst other things, he should that in the negotiations of France with England, most of the con ditions proposed by the latter should be avoided. The French Government had lost great sums of money in fostering its own manufactures, which they might have had at less expense from other countries. It was usual to introduce some clause relating to commerce in most treaties. There was such a clause in the late treaty with America. Lord Ashburton had a clause introduced that the agricultural produce of Maine might be admitted on the same footing as the produce of the American colonies. But, Maine being now as much a portion of the Uuited States as New York, the other States might claim to have their corn admitted on the same terms as that of Maine. The Right lion. Baronet had admitted American rice on the same terms as the rice from the west coast of Africa. The Right Hon. Baronet admit ted, in answer to a question from the Noble Lord, the member for London, that great difficulties existed in ne gociating commercial treaties, and that even greater dif ficulties existed in negociating them where constitutional goverments, and the representative system had existed. It was unwise and impolitic to wait to see what other countries would do. It would be better for them to commence with their own custom-house. M. Guizot, in answer to a question put to him by one of the Members of the Chamber of Deputies announced his intention of not following the ignis futuis of com mercial' treaties, but would adopt such measures as might be necessary for the welfare of the country without reference to foreign couutries. He also said that the modification of tariffs would produce all the benefit desired by all par ties in extending their commercial relations. If this were true, no person could find fault with him (Mr. Ricardo) for not bringing forward him motion before. With respect to Russia, a country which was surrounded by protective duties, he should say that their trade was much greater. The imports from that country amounted to five millions sterling, while the exports amounted to only 1,600,0001. It was asserted that this balance would have to be paid in gold, but he considered that a profitable trade could be carried on in gold. He thought there was no supernatural attribute in the word gold. The exports to Russia during the year 1841, consisted chiefly of cotton twist, sugar, coffee, wine, rum, and such articles, which came from the bonded warehouses in this country, where they were sent by the Brazilians, who received in return cotton woollen and other manufactures from England. If they could not find Ministers bold enough to carry out those principles which would tend to abolish restrictions which crippled trade, they might bid adien to the greatness and prosperity which this country had so long enjoyed. He hoped that the Right Hon. Baronet would be not content himself with contemplating the present years of plentiful harvests. He trusted, that the same causes which were in operation in past years were in operation now, and it was possible that they might have years of scarcity again. He hoped he would throw aside all the old principles of protection and monopoly, and see the absurdity and injustice of forcing the people into such costly sacrifices. He trusted that their Ambassadors would receive instructions to tell the different Courts of Europe that Great Britain had aroused herself from her delusions, under which she had so long labOured; that she now knew she could not sell without buying, or buy without selling, that in using the productions of other countries they were only using their own in another shape. He hoped they would be able to sry that all the ports of the country were opened, and that the only limits to their commerce were those which they them selves imposed. He concluded by proposing his motion. Mr. EWART seconded the motion. In referring to the history of commercial treaties, he asked what good result had this country ever obtained from them; ? The first treaty to which he would refer was the cele brated Methuen treaty of 1703, which was for a long time the wonder of the commercial world. The effect of it was to introduce into this country a taste for the wine of Oporto, which then superseded French wine, that until then was the only wine consumed in England. The next great treaty was that which was concluded with France in 1786, by Mr. Pitt, of which it was said that it was so advantageous to the English nation that the French ought never again to make a commercial treaty. He turned from our own country to other countries, and he asked whether the the reduction of the duty on im ports had not been highly beneficial. The most obvious country in reference to this part of the question was the United States of America. For a long series of years, while the United States of America was steadily pro gressing, their imports largely exceeded their exports. and the attention of one of the most acute observers of human nature, Dr. Franklin, was turned to the subject. He said, that if the importation of foreign luxuries could ruin a people, they, the Americans, would proba bly have been ruined long ago, for the British nation had clpimed and exercised the right • of importing, not only the superfluities of her own production, but of ever nation under heaven. But setting aside these questions of the past, the simple question was, whether they were likely to succeed in future. There appeared to be no approxima tion on the part of France towards a commercial treaty with this country. He believed that there existed in France, and in almost every nation in the world an extreme jealousy , of English commerce. The same thing prevailed in Germany. He did not believe that the United States contemplated any approach towards a commercial connexion. Our future connexion with them could only consist in our throwing open our ports to them, and taking whatever we want( d, convinced that they would in the end take from us what ever they wanted, in return. He did not think that the . answer of the Minister would be satisfactory to the country. The mind of the country was made up on the subject. The French Government had given a decided answer on the question, and her Majesty's Government ought to take the same course, and relieve the commerce of-the country from tjie mishaps occa sioned by the uncertainty. Mr. GLADSTONE did not think it would be difficult • ' to show the House sufficient reason for refusing the motion. Whether he should be able to answer the Honourable Gentleman to his own satisfaction, he did not know, for he did not quite under stand the terms of the motion. He thought he could satisfy the House that the motion ought not to be conceded, and that without disputing or even referring to a great many of the lion. Gentleman's statements. The Hon. Gentleman had alluded to the negotiations which had taken place between Great Britain and other countries. Now, he (Mr. Gladstone) did not think it necessary to enter with him (Mr. R.) into the policy of these negotiations. He did not think it necessary, because if he agreed with him that all these were use less, still he had not made out a case for a notion so broad as this. (LEFT SPEAKING.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, March 18. Their Lordshivs met at Five o'Cleek. The Bishop of BANGOR .presented several peti tions against the union of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. 16 31U 65 675 141 71 1200 155 100 117 300 365 520 40 24% 9 :38U 11}9 112% 101% 72% 18% 5% 15% 5 1 ,6 400 11..13L 140 48 1 6).i 184 16 16 2 40s. 20s. 4% 173 205 12% lbl 12 1 4 25% I3U 4.', 16:h 26% 2S 207 81 56 60 64 1 4 221 99N 112 4 , 10% Jr 111% 54 44% 11 $ 5 233 28% -41 1 1 64 j 656 1.‘134 69% 91 41% 5'7% 25 35% 265 35% 36 123 M 55 118 ` 39 101 127% y m 4 4 44 52N 291 104 HULL DOCKS. Mr. IIUTT gave notice that he would move that the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee on the Hull Docks Bill in 1840 (and printed in 1841), be re ferred to the Committee on the Bill for the construction of Docks at Hull, now before the House.—Ordered. FACTORIES BILL. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented two petitions from Yorkshire, in favour of a 'len Hours' Bill. Lord MARSIJAM presented a petition from the Dean and Chapter of Rochester, against the Union of the Sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. Mr. EWART presented a petition from Dumfries, praying for a repeal of the corn-laws. Lord G. SOMERSET presented a petition, praying for an alteration in the laCv of arrest. Sir G. GREY presented a petition from the inhabi tants of Christ-Church parish, Lambeth, complaining of the supply of water afforded by the Lambeth Water Company. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. GILL gave notice that on Friday next he would call the attention of the House to the ciremiistances of the arrest of Capt. Brewster, of the 76th regiment, in July last. Mr. lIUME gave notice that after Easter he should submit a motion to the House, that a humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty to abo lish the tord-Lieutenancy of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. BORTHWICK gave notice that on that day fortnight he would move that a humble address be pre sented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty would. be graciously pleased to direct that Parliament in all matters ecclesiastical should receive the advice of the clergy in convocation assembled, according to the con stitutional and ancient practice of this realm. CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS. Sir ROBERT PEEL gave notice that, on an early day, he should move for the appointment of a Committee, to inquire and report whether it was desirable that any alteration should be made in the law respecting contro verted elections. IRELAND. Mr. MORE O'FERRALL rose to ask the following questions, namely:-1. Whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to . introduce any measure during the present session to carry into effect all orany of the recommendations contained in the Report of a Com mission, appointed to revise the several laws under, or by virtue of which moneys are now raised by grand jury pre sentment in Ireland, more particularly as relates to the recommendation to effect a saving of 160,0001. in the ex penditure of the county rates in Ireland? (See Parlia mentary Paper, No. 386, of Session 1842.) 2. Whether any steps have been taken consequent on the Report of the Commissioners of Inquiry, in respect to the convict department of Kilmainham prison, which established the fact of great extravagance and misapplication of public moneys, under the Inspector of Prisons? (See Par liamentary Paper, N 0.547, of Session 1843.) 3. Whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce a measure founded on the report of the commission .ap pointed to inquire into the common law courts in Ire land ? (See Parliamentary Paper, No. 378, of Session 1842.) 4. Whether itwas the intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce any measure during the present session relative to ministers' money in Ireland ? Lord ELIOT said the alteration and revision of the grand jury laws in Ireland, was an important and diffi cult subject. With.respect to the adoption of the re • coirynendation of the Commissioners, to which the Hon. Gentleman referred, he . (Lord Eliot) could assure him, that very considerable diversity of opinion prevailed in Ireland. - He was quite sure that if any measure were to be based on that recommendation, it would fail to meet with the support of county Members. He would remind the Hon. Gentleman that there was at that moment on the table of the House, an experimental mea sure which was to be applicable to the county of Dublin. That Bill had been formed with the intention of embody ing a great portion of the recommendations of the Commissioners. And he (Lord Eliot) hoped that it would become law in the course of the present session, for he thought it was very desirable that the House should ascertain the result of that experiment before they proceeded to apply a general measure of that description to a!l.the counties of _lreland, He did not complain of the nay in which the Hon. Gentleman had put his ques tion, but they appeared to him (Lord Eliot) to partake of the nature of a statement. The Honourable Gentle Man had referred particularly to the recommendation of the Commissioners, having for its object the saving of 160,0001. per annum. There were several instances in which money had been saved. In one ea:e 12,0001. had been saved out of fines and penalties. A sum of 16,0001 had been saved in the county of Dublin. He did not think that any legislation was necessary on the subject if the recommendations of the Commissioners were carried into effect. With re gard to the second question, he begged to say that it was the intention of the Government to provide a separate place for convicts before their embarkation. With regard to the third question, whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce any measure relating to the common-law co ur t s , h e b egge d to say that her Majesty's Government were not prepared with any measure on the subject. question to put FACTOItIES BILL. the Dorsetshire; he to Mr.LNAoßbOleULColirdEßthEesaritdiemhebehradfora wished to ask what was his intention with respect to the amendment he had introduced into the Factories Bill? He wished to know from the Noble Lord what course he intended to pursue. • Lord ASHLEY said—lt is my most sincere and ar dent desire to make any sacrifice of personal feeling, in order to do what may to the utmost conciliate my opponents, and render the amendment it was my good fortune to carry as little objectionable as pos sible. This morning, 1 had an interview with five or six considerable manufacturers, and likewise with several operatives, who represented the feelings of the operative manufacturing classes. I proposed to them a plan which am about to state to the House, and I am happy to. say that it m • et their entire and hearty concurrence. On Friday next I shall take the liberty of entreating the House to affirm the proposition of ten hours'.laboulby the substitution of the word "ten" for "twelve"' in clause Bof the Bill. Should the House affirm that proposition, I will prepare a clause which shall enact that the present duration of labour, twelve hours, shall continue from the time at which we may pass the clause for six months, till the I st of October in this year. This will give six months' notice before any change takes place. From the Ist of October, this year, the period of labour I propose shall fall down to orrie fur=, and continue at that rate for two years, or 611 the 12th of October, 1846, when the period of ten hours' labour shall commence. This will give ample time to test the experiment, and during the course of that time should any mischief rise out of the enactment, the House would have the means in its own hands of preventing the clause from runing away with the interests of the manufacturers. The clause shall be prepared the day before the House goes into Committee, that Hon. Members may see the pre cise wording of proposition I intend to make. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, that though it was not quite regular on his part to address the House, perhaps he should be pardoned if he said a few words. In the first place, it was most desirable that the House and the country should . understand that he, and her Majesty's Ministers had now heard for the first time, the propo sitions which the Noble Lord (Lord Ashley) had expressed his intention of submitting to the Committee ; but he (Sir J. Graham) had no hesitation in coming to the conclusion that it would be his duty on Friday next to resist the _motion of the Noble Lord, and take the sense of the House upon the proposition of substitut ing " ten hours " fur " twelve." He might be permitted to add, with respect to the further proposition which the Noble Lord contemplated making, should the Noble Lord succeed in carry ing it, as he had his other proposal last night, the scope of that proposition had not removed the objection which he (Sir J. Graham) had urged against the other proposal, and it would be his duty to resist it to the utmost. ROYAL PROGRESS. Captain RODS said that there was a report very prevalent that her Majesty intended, about the month of lay to proceed to Berlin, on a visit the King of Prussia. As such a proceeding on the part of her Majesty would materially affect the interests of a great port ion of his constituents, he wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman whether there was any foundation for the rumour ? Sir ROBERT PEEL said that really there were so many reports abroad, totally destitute of foun dation, that he must protest against the practice of requiring a Minister of the Crown to find answers for these Reports. It really gave a sort of sanction to these Reports which was by no means proper. But as the Hon. Gentleman had said that he had heard the Reports IRELAND. Earl FITZWILLTAM (in continuation from our Third Edition last night) proceeded to say—lt was not perhaps, the crime of the British Legislature alone, but of the great growing power of the British community, of which those in office were only the administrators. He was told that a proposition of supporting a Catholic clergy would be distasteful to the English people—the Catholics themselves would not agree to it—that it would excite the hostility of the Dissenters of England, and that of the Presbyterians of Scotland. Now a man met with many things distasteful to him between the hour of his birth and the hour of his death. A nation was not exempt from the fate of individuals. The Dissenters of England, the Presbyterians of Scotland, and the Irish Catholics might have to do many things distasteful to them—even the Church of England itself might be brought to feel that there might be something even more disagreeable than being brought to give up some small portion of that which had been hitherto appropriated to that sect, of which the Right Rev. Pre lates were the ministers and ornaments. Notwithstand ing the rebuke he once received from a Right Rev. Pre late, he must persevere in saying that the Church of England was but a sect—the Catholic Church was an other—the Presbyterians of Scotland, the Independents of England, were all sects—and perhaps it might be a bitter pill for that sect which had hitherto been the dominant one, to feel that the time was not far distant when some portionof those resources which had been ap plied to itself alone, should be appropriated, in a certain degree, to the maintenance of other establishments. He thought it was quite chimerical to talk •of making the Irish priesthood stipendiary. Such a project would never do. There would be rumours abroad which were likely to impress upon some minds such a belief, but he protested against making the Roman Catholic priesthood pensioners. If anything was to be done, it was that they should place the Protestant rector and the Roman Catholic priest upon the same grounds, and give both an equal interest in the peace and well-being of the coun try, and that the former should not assume airs to himself while the other must be conscious of his inferiority. What he wanted was to give a perfect equality to the two great sects, and he could see no great difficulty in accomplishing this. When it was remembered that during the last 150 years, the eccle siastical property of Ireland had been entirely confis cated, and taken away from those who held it originally, and applied to other purposes than its first purposes, there was no man in the House so visionary as to suppose that this exclusive Church of Ireland would ever convert the people of Ire land. Such a vision was foolish, but if it ever did present itself for a moment, he thought it must very soon be banished, by reflecting on the years which have rolled on, and the generations which have passed away, without the slightest alteration in the state of the Catholic religion of Ireland. On the contrary, at the present moment, the Catholics of Ireland had increased in numbers in a much greater ratio than did the Protestants. If any inference could be drawn from this—although he did not mean to do so—it would be that the existence of the Established Church in Ire land, so far from increasing Protestantism, had been calculated to increase the other sect. He thought that justice to Ireland required that they should no longer take possession of the whole ecclesiastical property of Ireland, and apply that property to the sole use and benefit of one sect, and that sect the most wealthy and most able to provide them selves with the ministrations of religion. Until there was something like a fair and equal distribution of the Church property, there could be no peace or happiness in that country. It might not be done this session, it might not be done the next, but they might depend upon it that the people of this country, even the most prejudiced of them, must make up their minds to do something on this subject. It was the Roman Catholic question in another form. Twenty years might pass away, but still it must be done. He had heard certain wise men, or perhaps he might say wiseacres, who had said that at the time of the union the Roman Catholic question ought to have been settled one way or the other. Now, there were certain questions which could only be settled one way, and the Roman Catholic question was one of them ; and the present question also was one of the same sort. He defied them to maintain the Church of England in Ire land in its present state. He wished to see the Protest ant religion maintained in Ireland—he wished to see the Protestant parishes maintained—he wished to see the property of those parishes main• tamed, and applied parochially, He would have nothing to do with spoliation, nor with taking property for minor communities, to throw it into a sort of hodge podge, to be dealt with by the executive Government. It was essential to the cause of liberty that these minor corporations should be maintained. That which he de sired to see done might be easily done, if men would but shake off their prejudices. He was no repealer, and he trusted that England and Scotland would not find an additional argument in favour of repeal by refusing to do justiee to Ireland. What he wished to see done would not abolish the Church of England in Ireland. but would rather strengthen its foundations. He had stated explicitly his sentiments on the subject, and should conclude by presenting the petition. The Duke of WELLINGTON thought that nothing could be more inconvenient than raising a discussion of this nature upon the mere presentation of a petition. The discussion into which the Noble Lord had entered embraced not only the state of the Protestant religion in Ireland, and the . compact entered into for its maintenance, but it referred to the whole foundation of the Reformation in this country. The Noble Lord had proposed a scheme, of the particulars of which he was not exactly certain himself, neither was he certain as to the period which it could be carried into effect, nor of what might be its ultimate results ; but it went to the repeal of all those laws on which the Reformation in this country was founded, and he took the . opportunity of warning their Lordships how they introduced measures of this sort into the House ; they went not only to do away with the religion of the country, as it was esta blished at the time of the Reformation, but to the sub version of that system of toleration which was founded at the Reformation, and in the maintenance of which every person of every religious persuasion was interested. He implored their Lordships' not to encourage those doctrines, which tended 'to destroy the laws upon which the Reformation was founded. He begged them to re collect that the Church of Ireland had existed over a period extending from 250 to near COO years. It was maintained in that country for a century of constant rebellion rand massacres, ending in a struggle for the possession of the Crown. The Protestants maintained the country, and kept possession of their Church. That Church continued during another century, op posed and labouring under difficulties of all descriptions, but still maintained.—(Hear, hear.) At the peried of the union, the Parliament which had the power to con sent to that union stipulated that the Protestant Church should be maintained.—(Hear, hear.) Their Lord ships entered into that compact, and they should never lose sight of that fact.---(Hear, hear.) He implored them not to be prevailed on to make any alteration in that compact so long as they wished to maintain their union. —(Hear, hear.) He thought they could not de part from the compact without a breach of faith as great as had been committed in other countries, referred to by a Noble Lord in the course of that evening.— (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) He entreated them to listen to none of those petitions or speeches, which tended to the injury or destructiosi of the Protestant Church of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) Let them do whatever was ne cessary to render the Church more beneficial, as a whole, to the people of that country.—(Hear, hear.) He entreated them again to adhere strictly, and accord• ing to the letter, to the compact entered into with the Irish Parliament in the Act of Union.—(Cheers.) The Noble Earl said he was aware' that that was the feeling of the people of this country, and he (the Duke of Wel lington) hoped that would be their opinion as long as there was a spark of honour in this country.—(Hear.) The Noble Duke concluded by again exhorting their Lordships not to allow any infringement of the Act of Union. Earl FITZ WILLIAM thought the Noble Duke had misapprehended him. He did not think that he had said anything from which it could be inferred that he meant to overthrow the laws on which the Reformation was founded.-- Ho had only said that the parochial funds should be applied to the payment of the Roman Catholic as well as the Protestant clergy, whether in the Barony of Ballysaxe, or any other Bally.—(Hear, and a laugh.) The speech of the Noble Duke reminded him of the syeeches he had heard before about the Coronation Oath, and other fine things, which they were not allowed to touch. He put the speech of the Noble Duke in the same category ; and notwithstanding the Noble Duke's warning he thought the time would come, and many of their Lordships would live to see it, when with the Noble Duke himself, or some following the steps of the Duke in 1829—he had no more doubt of it than that he was at that moment standing in that House — an arrangement would be made for paying the Roman Catholic priests.—(Hear, hear.) So that the warning of the Noble Duke had not the slightest effect upon ; - The Bishop of EXETER tendered hii sincerest thanks to the Noble Earl (Fitzwilliam) for having made a • speech which had drawn from the Noble Duke aCe, l ,, liiigton) near to him an address V , hich entitled Wait:it the gratitude of Protestant Christendom. Yet he 111 , 1 at say that the subject itself had come upon him sonaew" t suddenly; for in the usual notices of their proceedinglit was stated simply that the Noble Earl had topresen,' petition on the subject of Ireland; and, not conterned with this, he had rambled into the state of Ireland a% of the Protestant Church there. The Noble Ear l ., ssl o f he would have nothin g to do with the srolis u° ',o Church property ; he would not centralise it, but alt it to be spent where it was derived. And how sP eD be .. It was, according to the Noble Lord, to be divided _t tween the Roman Catholic priest and the Pr otests rector, or rather the Protestant rector was to be stri pe in order to endow the Roman Catholic priest. Noble Earl seemed to treat the question of spolist','s'r lightly, but spoliation might assume a very forrnid!''ri character, and that even to the senses of the Noble . himself. Suppose those Noble Lords who had been ono riched by the hand of spoliation, years and years e were called upon tb disgorge, in order to suPPLYI,Dre' wants of the poor in the very parishes w' „ the spoliation had taken place, how would th e .' like it ? In the Noble Earl (Fitzwilliam) self ; in another Noble Earl near him ,i``.o believe the Earl of Besborough was alluded to), Iln the Noble Marquis (Lansdowne) also rear him, h e ,; s- , 0 three Noble Lords who occupied a much larger of confiscated property, than did the Church itself in 11 ;1 of the three counties where their estates were situst,o —(Laughter.) And those were the individuals talked so loudly of justice, and so loosely of spolia__„ ti t sv and whose estates had been granted to them by the -- sacred and inviolable law, that had awarded the P r t ; . ; w ciu perty to the Protestant Church ! He admonished la Noble Earl to be careful of his sayings. But h e ~ not only be his monitor—he would venture, on this c'et'be sion, to assume the character of prophet ; and iri wa s spirit of prophecy,.he would say that if spoliation made on Church property, spoliation on private propel-Li would speedily follow. He tendered his humble so,"0 most heartfelt thanks to the Noble Duke; and lie (tu Right Rev. Prelate) believed that of all the s ervi he which that great man had rendered to his country laa had never conferred greater services on it, than he that night.—(A laugh.) L The petition was then ordered to lie on their ° ships' table. • Lord LILFORD presented a petition from the oporfoa; tive silk weavers of the township of Leigh, ProY ing • to the appointment of a Select Committee to inquire illue their case. He,would move for the appointment or Committe e Lord FEVERSHAM presented a petition, but -nei its object, nor the place wh . ence it proceeded, coul d heard i the allr. Their Lordships then adjourned at a Quarter t° Seven o'clock. . HOUSE OF COMMONS, March 18. FACTORIES BILL—COMMITTEE —AD' JOURNEDBATE. a Mr. WARBURTON (in D neatcion from our Thir Edition last night)—He had his eyes fully open t° ti ld e alternative to which the Noble Lord (Howick) bad S t'gg they would ultimately be reduced, of not merely hand a a Ten Hours' Bill, but in every manufacturing town I:, district local boards of trade to make ar rangeraen ts io g tween masters and men. It had been said in dis cu s s ., to this question that they should refrain from tdin lh rlb t he topics that were calculated to excite feelings to ,hat country. He did not think it their duty to do so. " were the circumstances which affected the comfort? e a the working , classes, and what remedies could be &v is a . for their distress was an important element in th e Hers sideration of this subject. The Hand-loom v, ea Commission stated the effect of the corn-laws vo u ' t hst to raise the price of corn 20 per cent., and assuming or half of the wages of the operatives went for the eons ° t he tion of corn, they operated as a tax on his wages to ore. amount of 10 per cent. The consequence was tha r t exertion was required from the operative and hi s ' s „.; o re Were it not for those laws the wife could giv e ,. — t he attention to her domestic duties—one 01 _ 4 1 things complained of by the Noble Lord to the operative could devote more of his wag e ' e at purchase of clothing, and his children need not be at so early an age to work. One of the recommends`3o. made by this Commission was carried out by, he r e t he jesty's present Government, namely the reduction toe, duty on timber. He was an advocate of this mes s r ev because it would improve the habitations of the rout classes. Other questions which the Commission ree l re , mended, namely, the improvement of our comme r r t her lations with America, the Brazils, Germany, er'' t ° e rtss countries, so as to admit of the most advantageo us ' au es. for our manufacture in our various markets—tho se i ,', the tions, amounting to about six were unattended t o 17 t ap Government, with the exception of one measure Ara A measure so impolitic as that which the Nobi„e_ . .. t ber had recommended, would absolve them from the fur the necessity which was threatened by the Noble l e "; i tion Member fur Sunderland of putting the whole regallters of the details between the operatives and the 10 , [ 1: 51 ..) under the management of local boards of trade Lord HOWICI( said his Hon. Friend misund ers. what e had said. Mr. h BECKETT was surprised at the discussion fare had taken place upon the amendment of his "' fl oe Friend, for that discussion appeared to him to be s 4ion discussion respecting profit and loss. The qu e ,; t eal they had to consider was, whether the present lola was one of- cruelty and hardship or not? If it S.,;„tle turn out not to be so, then the amendment of his,. l t or Friend would of course fall to the ground. r rit hee ta swers to the statements of his Noble Friend 11 0 ' 1 ; 0 11f that the agricultural labourers and others were as ,`' t hat off as the manufacturing operatives. Now, con k ! iv' be urged as a reason why that House ought n ot , 0 ? terfere in a case where it possessed the power to d°o%. —(Hear, hear.) He knew that a large body of the f t he nufacturers, owners of machinery, were in favour s. amendment of his Noble Friend. The Right 1101. e):0°" ronet (Sir James Graham) said that the machinery tee° ployed in manufactures generally lasted about s is. oo a years, and therefore it required a certain rettlr; ie ri, remuneration for the capital invested in that ma ch ' tea and consequently to reduce the period of labour mach ten hours a day, would greatly diminish the returns o , oa bi owners of the machinery, and a great injustice v`oy, be done. Why, he (Mr. Beckett) would appeal to the most sanguine manufacturer in this country, w' been any machinery employed in manufactures had eve r cars ? worked for twelve hours a day for sixteen Yrhiug. Why, no manufacturer ever expected such a, e d by Machinery was continually being super set ' o ur' new inventions. This argument of the Right gontind, able Baronet, therefore, completely fell to the gr° 10 1 He (Mr. Beckett) had taken the opinions of T h ose . practical men on the subject, and the whole o f with whom he had consulted deprecated a twelve nuotta Bill.—(Hear, hear.) Manufacturers, shop-keep ers ' in operatives whom he had conversed with w ore . the,' favour of shortening the hours of labour, and In town of Barnsley he had ascertained that no oPS t hat worked more than ten hours a day. He believ trio the labouring population in the manufacturing clisogaes • would ever remain open to the schemes of deinag;: of and agitation while the present duration of the 10n lye labour continued. While he was opposed to a t i o p. hours'Bill, he would freely - admit that he would - ol ou ght port a proposition for a Bill of ten hours. H e ro see • such a change would be too sudden. He wis hed he a gradual alteration, and for the present he Ivo o t to content with an eleven hours' Bill. He would be Sear see such a Bill passed for a period of three or four of tbo • and by that time they would be enabled to judge boor• practicability of further curtailing th e hours of 14 t he Sir GEORGE GREY felt anxious to st'l 0 -11 0 reasons why he concurred with the Noble Lor 00 4, had moved the amendment which had been pil t the. , In doing so, he could not but acknowledg e l' o tar/ observations of the Right Hon. Baronet the Sefl were for the Home Department, in introducing thi s 13 ,,' 0 ' entitled to the greatest weight. He was bo und o' the that the arguments which had been addressed ` r , hies House by the Hon. Member for Kendal seeme d i ; i t (Sir G. Grey) to hare been directed rather age nst t he gislative interference on the subject than g ai t o llie, ll limited, and, as he thought, reasonable prelws Friend' had been submitted to tbe House by his Noble )-oeerlf They had been warned, and he admitte d, b e Went warned, not to do anything which might have.l nairit4- of curtailing our manufacturing energies and ellibed the commercial prosperity of the country- i f far ° e l l ! toned in vain for any shadow of argument' o r firu pos slightest proof, that the change which was W Y K t y, was likely to involve our commercial presPe Be " us had be e° 'B , - 4 • would ask whether any argument % web against the amendment of his Noble Friend, N' t he 13ii not equally applicable to the principle (4 , lat ive then before the House. The principle of 1e g' s i g o tar e ' terference had been long ago decided by the :gas yore When that question was decided opportunit,i; ( g r. presented to the Hon. Member for Nena' o , the Warburton) of pressing his objections eithertiot the second reading of the Bill, or upon the m otion. _ ov er' Speaker do leave the Chair. No such course' c n o v re, t hat was taken. He (Sir G. Grey) thought, the to in the present state of the proceedings it was s " tiou wei r raise that general question. The only Vi e how fg f how far ought their interference to be carrieu-- o ' could it be safely carried, and how far the i s n u t o e u la ca b! the operatives required and permitted it start f r°*- t - o carried out, and at what point they were to s _ tee d With regard to the subject of interference, it_o7_roaerrl:i him that between the Noble Earl and the o li " Mi. Nobl e there was not the slightest difference. a o viol ent 1 0 did not ask the House to go beyond the Gov!„__ s op _ comprehending other classes in this B e il! :ed l ll t ; question upon which they were all t as u h p o t ti h o e e ir st m io i n nd: , and eth tro young proil o u pe nc r e so 13 and 18, and women of every age, 11 Shpu e period co e during twelve hours a day, exclusive of . the P sumed in going to and from the factories, eels to the the period to be consumed during their d : c L ide vi a ‘ s! Id factory. The question the House had to a n n s between :11 1 ° I g b ew o 1 0 0 4 h uld b° ten ,t hat hours ; and the proposition on the other I s ou_ i . fo ol: I s e whether the period should be tell or twelsveo one side it was proposed that the time it should be twelve hours, which, in the ea e labour' s s no ono could doubt was very excessive to rs w Factory illsP ec tble thought that the Report of the ott u pon _ t deserving of every attention and consiaerat, nion direct oP' y oung subject, and they gave it as their h for any twelve hours' work was more than enoug eces si " the n . ~rs, person, and in the case of t fifteen D°. A of being absent for more than d comfort, sn' was destructive of domestic happiness an f their fir neglect o must necessarily tend to the total s. that this excessive labour was necessAraykon connec. mercial prosperity of the country ? tend to ameliorste milies. He would ask the House were thfeoyr ttobodeecolerarc., tion with other measures which would . con the physical and moral condition of the people, a beta ,- the t sidered that such a provision as this would have ficial result. He thou ht, from all b e could the great mass of the o p e ratives were most anti , v g t t° see the propositions of his Noble Friend owl 1 1: PP3 !f A ftllq Ue stion, he wi 6 was ha t: were prse.ti 1,,..' come torw at '-ra it, Re did n ,er4inp. extraneous .: 4 I 'lit the difiicult ,ts 'ht i .10.11 trade, which u t w ee of t h e count t 1 th e greatest f kern of his N o bl e benefici a l resu l , Sir J, GRAIIA] I:ciat ts discu ss i on vlrow li ght Upon it. 14 Put pose of li m it t)ties to twelve hot: t 4 In atufacture of woollen trade, ful klapted, and the la flsable. Ile shoal iitjhctlattiov; iennfaaenttmleaut t ,. 4 .! au la w t o limit 1 ,',"(les. In that yea] '"liir employ ment f c ( 'llt of the twenty-fo ~.°Y int erfererenc e f. '''Qetl class of indivi f l ,, h ell an Act was pt ,-~:tories no children f4'llt 'tore than twe itllther provisions Vri 14'104 of persons un , i 4 18 31, a Bill WAS 1 ,tnlat no person u f li ic at night betwe hail night fiire in the l'llise of legislation lithe Year 1833, th '.tshire, introduced ~}l,,'l'tenin the hour i,,,eing the time o 11 71 trait of labour 1 l''' it Was never 'l'd int nd d his r uee 14 '111 ' 4 14) had the I I . man r 4tajesty, togetlu t, and one on • they Were likely t . d Il ught it thet '' l 'llg so 3,1 r. 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