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once asserted that he (Lord Sandon) had been elected i opposite to taunt those who had been once in office with what • by venal freemen. He hoped that this would be the last they had not done when they had greet difflculti ato contend time such assertions would be made by Hon. Members in that l with ; but it we; no reason to give to the country for any line House. The Hon. Member for Manchester hid sa;d that he lof conduet, that Whig Ministers were as bad as they were. (Lora Sandon) was not the representative of the mercantile They were returned to that lieuse for a different pureese—for interests of Liverpool. He (Lord Sandon) thought he might i the pirpose of discussing and settling those great national appeal to the addresses that had been eresented to him on questiens upon the broad principles of justice, without that subject, in order to refute the assertion. He thought the any regard to self-interest. Their monopolies all hung twee- Hen. Gentleman had been compelled to the adoption of the ther—it was the same with corn, with sugar, and with timber. course he had pursued, in consequence of the impossibility —(lronical cheers froca Col. Sibthorp.) He believed the lion. of answering the speech of his Right Hon. Frieno, the Presi- Member for Lincoln had given that expression of dissent. dent of the Board of Trade. A speech more exhausting the Now he (Mr. Bright) had met in the county of Lincoln a s'abject he had never h ear d .— ( H ear, h ear.) ' 1 he Hon. Geri- person who objected to the repeal of the corn-laws, and he asked ileum had said that the manufacturers of Manchester had him if the Ministry repealed the corn-laws what would stated that they looked to an alteration in the sugar duties in he have done with the sugar-laws ? His answer was, order to open the markets of the world to this country. Ile repeal them, of course ; and he (Mr. Bright) would thought that when the subject was well considered it would be ask a planter on the other side of the House, who was only thought by the manufacturers of Manchester not to be a boon a sugar planter, what would he have done with the cern-laws if worth scrambling for. The Hon. Gentleman had chal- the sugar monopoly were done away with? Why, he would lenged him to go down to Liverpool and advocate the beco ne a Leaguer at once—he cared not one straw for any principles which he supported in that House. He should monopoly, but that by which he profited. Therefore, it was have no hesitation in doing so, feeling convinced that the he (Mr. Bright) charged them all as monopolists in sugar as course of conduct he had adopted would meet with the appro. well as in timber. He charged them with not fulfilling their bation of his constituents. He did not believe as had been duty to their constituents in thus regarding the interests of asserted that the people of England had changed their opi- classes only in opposition to the well-known interests of the nions upon the question of slavery and the slave trade. The great body of their constituents and of their countrymen. Members of that House might have changed their opinions What was the condition of those people whose interests suffered upon the subject but the people had not. if they appealed to by the sacrifice of the Brazilian trade ? Had they so soon for the people they would find that they would not sacrifice every gotten that, two years ago, 100,000 - men had come out of principle of justice to pounds, shillings, and pence. It was Lancashire, and asked the ruling powers what they meant to asserted that the course the Ministers were pursuing was cal- do for them ? They had in those districts of Lance culated to increase the price of that essential article of life— shire and Yorkshire the most industrious population on the sugar. Now, what was the fact? Why, ever since the face of the earth. He lived amongst them, and he knew debate that was raised by the Noble Lord the Member for them well, and he knew that from their industry the rents of the City of London, the price of sugar had been continually Hon. Gentlemen were gathered, and that it was the profits of falling. There was no doubt that the market of Brazil was a their trade which enabled the country to carry on the late long very great and important one, but he was sure that when and sanguinary wars. He knew that the agriculture of this the Government of Brazil imposed duties on cotton country never yet maintained the prosperity of the country. and other manufactures of this country, the manufae- However, they disregarded the interests of those manufacturing tue ers of Manchester would not be so eager to cultivate districts; and then they lately had their long discussion upon the relations of amity with the people of Brazil. With state of Ireland, with its two millions and a quarter of paupers. respect to the estimate he had given of the quantity of —(Cries of " Question.") Should they not, while the popu. sugar that would be supplied from the colonies, he never in- lation was in such a state, extend the trade of the country, so tended to calculate exactly. No man could do that. But as to correspond with the extension of the population ?—(Cries he was jus)ified in what he had asserted by the fact, that the of " Question.") It was to the question to refer to one por - price of sugar had been falling ever since. He contended tion of the empire which they would gladly forget, but that that for supplying the labour market of the West Indies, the circumstances would not allow them. In that country, then, a choice lay between the immigration into those islands of free population—upwards of two millions—more numerous than the vihite labourers, or the negroes from Africa. A great impedi- population of this vast metropolis, were in a starving con ment in the way of the supply of sugar was, the continual dis- dition.—( Question.) He could make great allowance, from the cussion of this question, which produced a feeling of uncer- occupations in which Hon. Gentemen opposite had engaged during tainty. He repeated that he believed the honest abhorrence the recess, for their unwillingness to grapple with this question. the people had for slavery was not at all diminished, and con- But there was a trade which employed a vast number of the eluded by declaring that he could have no fear of being charged people of Lancashire and the people of Ireland, who, driven by his constituents with either hypocrisy or neglect of the corn- from their homes by the brutality of the landlords, came to mercial interests of the country. Lancashire by hundreds and thousands. He had at the present • - Mr. BRIGHT rose, and said, from the speeches he had moment many families of those poor people in his employment, heard that night from the Right Hon. the President of the who could give horrible and appalling accounts of the circum- Board of Trade, and from the Noble Lord who had just sat stances under which they were driven from their native court down, he should have thought that gentlemen on that side of try. Well, then, they had upwards of two millions of paupers the House were specially interested either in the condition of in Ireland, more than a million in England and Wales, and an the population of some portions of Africa, or in the affairs of enormous mass of pauperism in Scotland, with wages in the the Brazilian empire. He should not have been aware, from agricultural districts of that country of not more than 63. per any speech on that side of the House, that they were engaged week ; and even in some of the English counties the wages in any discussion on the real merits of the operation of the were as low as 6s. per week.—(Cries of " No.") Let the question on the great body of the consumers of this country.— Hon. Member for Dorsetshire get up and quote fr o m the pam ( Hear, hear.) Nothing was more politic in a case so despe- phlet of the Rev. Godolphine Osborne. lie hail the rately bad as this, than that Hon. Gentlemen should try to title of Honourable before his name, and he (Mr. Bright) ride off on some other scent—( Hear, hear)—and the largest therefore supposed he was connected with the aristocracy. portioh of the speech of the Right Hon. President of the Board 1:e had also the title of reverend, and therefore, he presumed, of Trade, who was a Member of the Cabinet, was spent in dis- belonged to an establishment which was not particularly de cussing theslavery view of the question,although it was notorious mocratic in its tendency—yet that writer gave a more appalling that he was hi mse lf one o f a f am il y w hi c h , per h aps more t h an any description of the state of the people in tat country than any other, was in former times implicated in all that was most dig- member of the Anti-Corn-Law League had yet ventured to graceful in the system of slavery.—( Cries of " Oh, oh" from the give.—( Cries of " Question.") What did the country papers Ministerial benches.) lie meant not to make any charge as to tell them? Ought they not to take some steps to particular acts.—(Oh, oh, and cheers.) He spoke only of ascertain the cause of the deep seated di-content slavery as a system.—(Oh, oh.) He did not believe that those of the agricultural counties ?—the cause of those connected with the Right Hon. Gentleman ever did anything outrages upon property which were, to a certain extent, corn but what every man who kept slaves was necessitated to do.— mitted upon farms, in some of the counties where they were (Cheers and Oh, oh.) But the Right Hon. Gentleman was obliged to keep private watchmen.—(No, no.) Why, it was so. now also a member of the Cabinet, supported by a party Let them read the accounts of the incendiary hires recorded who were the special supporters, in that House and the in the newspapers. It was for the Legislature, in such a state country, of slavery and the slave trade, as long as the of things, to consider whether their only concern in dealing people of this country permitted them to exist at all.— with this question was, whether the West Indian planter (Cheers.) The Noble Lord the Member fur Liverpool had should have fifteen shillings per cwt, less, or not, on spoken of the strong opinion of his constituents on this ques- sugar. It was their business to see if any remedy tion. While the Hon. Member for Manchester was speaking could be devised for the present state of matters, and if they he saw the Hon. Member fur Evesham (Mr. Borthwick) sit- could devise such remedy to apply it at once. That was their ting by the side of the Noble Lord. He recollected the time duty if they claimed to be statesmen. If a remedy lay within when that Hon. Gentleman was in Liverpool lecturing in fa- the Constitution it was their duty to apply that remedy. He • your of slavery, and the only party by whom that Hon. Gen- had risen to exp'ain his views and to state his intention of sup tleman was supported in delivering his lectures in favour of porting the motion of the Hon. Gentleman. Though there slavery, was the very party that returned the Noble Lord to might be a majority against that motion, and Ministers might this House. He had asserted elsewhere, and he was prepared to thereby obtain a party triumph, they were not therefore re repeat it here, that their plea of an abhorrence of slavery, moved from the terrible, the awful, and the ever-accumulating coming from that side of the House, was a dishonest plea. It responsibility of doing their duty, and spurning the domination was a plea that was made to seize hold of certain opinions of the monpolist party.—(Cheers.) which once did exist, and which were now supposed to exist, but Mr. F. 'l'. B IRING said that the Noble Lord (Lord San • which was never used so long as they had any other on which don) who spoke last on the other side, had addressed himself they could hang their support of this question. But it was a a good deal to a proposition made by him ( Mr. Baring) when plea that would avail them no longer. He knew that the Anti- he was Chancellor of the Exchequer, rather than to the real Slavery Society did send sei ne re p resen t a ti ons t o the Govern- snbject under discussion. What that proposition was, he ( Mr. ment against the proposal to reduce the duty on foreign Raring) would not then trouble the House with repeating. sugar. But he knew, also, that in that represen- At the time it had been proposed, it was upon the considera tation it was not supported by the Anti-Slavery Societies tion of revenue that it had been advanced. He had been told, in the provinces—( Hear, hear)—and it was in the provinces both now and then, that that proposition would be ineffective. that the real strength of tee Society existed.—( Hear, hear. ) All he could say was, that if it were ineffective, they had now The Societies in Glasgow, in Manchester, in Liverpool, in means, which they had not then, of giving a reduction, which Birmingham, at Hitchin, at Devizes, and in several otter the state of the finances would not permit. If it was denied places, had seceded from the Anti •Slavery Society on that that it would give relief, let it not stand in their way at. the pr - very ground. They dissented with it on this question, and sent moment. They were open tocoesider any more effective pro the Society, from that fatal error, had fallen into a state of rosition than he had been able to lay before the House. complete helplessne3s. He knew this from experience, and There was, however, one point which the House must permit from information he had collected, and he had as good a him to re - s t a t e t o th em . I t h a d b een use d as a taunt aga i nst right to speak on the p o i n t a s an y man , for he the Members of the late Government that they had changed had visited every borough in Er.gland within the their opinions upon the question of protecting colonial sugar. last twelve or eighteen months.—(Oh, oh, and ironical li e rem i n d e d t h em t h at w h en t h e d ut i es were renewe d i t was cheers from the Ministerial benches.) The anti-slavery cry, announced to be a renewal for one year, acid if any Hon. Mem raised with respect to the question of free trade, or the sugar ber who was present at the interview of West India pro question, would not hinder the return of any Member of Par- prietors with the Government on that occasion had any remem liament who might come forward as a free trade candidate. brance of the matter, he would admit that it was so stated at (Hear, hear.) But he should like to ask Hon. Gentlemen op the time, and moreover that it excited considerable dissatistac posite why they raised this question of national morality ? tion, as though they designed to lower the duty, though they Was it their duty to look after the morality of Brazil? Was it did not state so. The speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman not their dute to look after the prosperity of their the President of the Board of Trade on the subject had been own country ?—( Hear, hear.) Were they sent to made with his usual ability and clearness, but in nothing had Parliament that they might take under their specie he shone to such advantage as in avoiding irritating patronage, every population of every portion of the earth, ex- topics. But then one part of the Right Honour cept that of the country in which they themselves lived?— able Gentleman's speech would be looked at with (Cheers.) He declared he could not express the disgust and anything but satisfaction—he meant his narration relative to amazement—(oh ! oh I)—with which he had listened to the the negotiation, because it left the case of further negotiation speeches of the gentlemen opposite, in which they had spoken hopeless. The Right Hon. Gentleman stated the propositions of the people of Africa, of Brazil, of every people of the world, that were made, on the part of the Government of Brazil, except their own poor, except the famishing population of their which he said it was impossible for the Government of this own manufacturing districts.—( Cheers.) Who was it that en- country to accept. But that left upon him (Mr. Baring) the tertained these scruples about the introduction of Brazilian impression that they had put off to too late a time their dealing sugar ? It was not the poor, it was the rich only—( Hear ) with that country. If they had, some years ago, dealt more and they could have enough at whatever price it might liberally with the staple articles of that country, sugar and come in —(Cheers)—or, if there was only a supply of coffee, they would have raised a better feeling towards them 4,000,000 cwts., with an increase of several millions of the on the part of the Government of that c nintry.—( Hear, population, it mattered nothing to Noble Lords in another hear.) lie heard, with sincere regret, that the Government place, to Hon. Members in this, to rich merchants, or bankers, of Brazil were about to take the course of protection. or the clergy; all these classes would be served out of this He was not inclined to speak against what had been stated short supply before the poor of the population could come in by the Right Hon. Gentleman, or to overrate :heir trade for their share. If the Noble Lord the Member for Liverp ml, with Brazil. But whatever that trade was, it was of such a and the President of the Board of 4 Trade, had scruples nature that, in the present state of the manufacturing popula. on this matter, how had they any right, by reason tion, it ought not to be neglected. He confessed he thought of their conscientious scruples, to deny to five-sixths there were no two countries so admirably adapted by nature of the working classes of this country that supply of sugar, for commercial intercourse, as this country and Brazil. But which their own 'industry might purchase them, if it were not the opportunity of improving that intercourse had been r.e for this infamous law and system which they upheld.—(Cheers.) glected, and they now came, at a late hour, to remedy that If any man had any scruples on the matter, he ought not to neglect. lie had looked with same interest at the estimates consume slave-grown sugar. Let there be freedom of eon- of the Chancellor of th e E xc h equer f or t h e l ast t h ree years. science on th e quest i on ; but let them not seek to impose In the years 1841 and 1842, he estimated that the qwintity shackles on the conscience of other men, especially of men who of sugar to be imported would be 1,160,000 cwts. ; in snaking were not represented in that House, and who were the that estimate, the Right lion. Gentleman had made a mis weakest and most defenceless of the people, and take. lie promised a supply which was short of the demand who, under the most ordinary circumstances, never by the amount for three months' consumption. Ile would got more than the commonest necessaries of life.—( Cheers.) not enter into the estimate furlast year, because there seemed to Treaties had been spoken of between this country and Brazil ; be some confusion in the Right lion. Gentleman's speech. lie suppose Brazil would allo x their goods to come in without any ( Mr. Baring) was not certain whether the estimate stated the duties at all, what effect would that have on the sugar question? stock in hand, or the stock expected ; however on the esti- They had had already almost an open market in Brazil—the mate for the three years there was a deficiency of half a Brazilians had done everything they could for them in ad- year's consumption, as compared with the amount really con miffing their goods at duties of la and 18 per cent. ; they timed. Now he asked any impartial man who looked at these had no reason to complain of them. Yet they found figures, to state if he was not satisfied that the consumption that their trade with Brazil had, for many years, been was stinted by the smallness of the supply ? Taking the diminishing. The good of the present treaty they average of the last five years, it appeared that the quantity had deprived the country of, by sacrificing their country to a introduced into the country excreded the actual consumption class and selfish monopoly interest; and whatever treaty they only by the consumption of two days, showing that as might make in future, unless they chose to lower the duties on consumption followed so closely on the heels of supply, the sugar of Brazil, however advantageous it might seem upon it must have been stinted by the smallness of it. paper, the trade must be greatly crippled, and all who de- Would any one tell him, looking at the habits of the people pended on it must greatly suffer. The Right Hon. Gentle- of this country and of Ireland, that if there had been a free and man alluded to the fact that the East Indies and the Mauritius open supply, there would not have been a much greater con would not Ione", and did not then, g rea tly requ i re protect i on , sutnpt i on o f sugar ? If M r. Il u -ki sson, w h en we b rought for. but that the West Indies did require it, because labour was scarce, ward his sugar duties, told them that there was a large class and dear because of its scarcity. Why, the planters themselves of their poorer tellow subjects who did not use sugar at all, were themselves to blame fur any scarcity of labour in the why was it that tea and coffee were new consumed to a much West Indi es . Th e y were told that the climate of Jamaica greater extent than formerly, while the consumption of sugar was favourable to the negro population, yet for many years it had not increased in the same proportion ?—( Hear, hear. ) did not increase but diminish ; and had the emancipatian been His Right lion. Friend had stated truly, that since 1831 the delayed fifteen years longer, such was the brutality and ;ill- consumption of tea and coffee had increased about 33 per cent. treatment of the slaves by the planter that the negro population —( Hear.) Let him illustrate his position by the case of to• would have been utterly exterminated. He thought this was bacco. "I hey all knew that great complaints were made of the about the worst plea that could possibly be offered smug,gling, of tobaeco as well as of its adulteration, and there by the West Indian planter s in defence of the sys- fore he could not perhaps take a more unfavourable case. Not tem by which the people must be rubbed and epoile,i of not less withstanding this, ho sever, the consumption of tobacco had than four or five millions annually, to support the monopoly in increased since 1831 17 per cent. The increase in the con which these planters had so direct an interest. But the qu.•s- sumption of sugar was only 7 per cent —( Hear, hear. ) tion with regard to the consumers in this country was, that Now a good deal of argument had been used with refer there was not enough sugar for their supply, He had heard no ence to the question of slavery. He would ask Hon. Gentle remedy proposed for this; the people were ill supplied ; the men opposite whether, upon the grounds they had taken, it was consumption of Ireland was a trifle—that of the agricultural possible to defend all the anomalies which spread through counties of England scarcely worth alluding to—and all that their systems. He contended that it was impossible to carry was consumed hi the country was well known to he ileterio- out fairly and frankly the principles which they had laid down t ret t e n .d to a ser i ous extent. — ( Cries of " Hear, hear. " ) Every. with regard to slavery and sugar. The Right Hon. Gentie ihiiere g was strivi ng to b a ffl e t h e system they had built up man h a d been reminded of the ca-e of cotton, b u t h e d rew a was no increase in the quantit of the sugar ; the re was di st i nct i on w i t h respect to t h at article. Si hy, with the Right an incr ease i n all the dealers in it, and a decrease in the profits Hon. Ge n tl e m an ' s t a lent f or d rawing di s ti nct i ons, h e wou l d not they m a d e ; some sold the article without any profit at all, and be surprised if he were able to show a distinction between the in some places the grocers would not sell suear to families sugar of Brazil and the sugar of America.—(Laughter.) The unless they purchased othe r articles from which a profit could Right Hon. Gentleman had been questioned also with respect be made. The object of the sugar monopoly was precisely to coffee. Would he tell him (Mr. Baring) that no Cuba the same as that of corn. It W the West Indian isles, in the sant benefit the proprietors of coffee ever came into this country? In fact, it was law was meant to benefit a manner as the corn- impossible to apply the principle. Whether foreign land in England. The gentlemen proprietors of ooureries, looking at the course which they pursued with this as well as he did. No man knew it betterup t Eosite knew respect to other articles, would be entirely persuaded of Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government, unleasa the Right their perfect honesty and good faith with reference to sugar, isiewarevais the was a question which he confessed he should have great diffi. Right Hon. Baronet who sat on his right hand—( propounded those principles years ago—( Cheers') hear) )e culty in solving ; knowing, as he did, that almost every fo -whowho, perhaps, taught him (Mr. Bright) the first lessons he reign country looked on this declaration with regard to sugar as mere empty profession. He now came more immediately ever received in political economv.—(Laughter and cheers, to the question t of slavery. ' The Right Hon. Gentleman had during which Si r J. Graham bowed to the Hon. Member in put pwuhtiethhihe c te t s e t m ion l very fairly. He said it was not slavery acknowledgment of the reference.) The country, too, knew any Why, if it w ere, it would be im that they supported a selfish interest, and however much possible to deal p s a v t i e tharticle ol that came from Arne they might have deluded the people in time past, rice. Nor was this the which the Right t n h l y l e on d !u ffi r i a n b l l t e y. Gentleman Almost had there was now intelligence enough in the country only treaty in n rn i rent of Russia ; to put an end to this and every other monopoly, by which framed was a treaty with as the word they might fancy they profited.—(oll, oh, and indications of and though no one could talk of slaver impatience.) He knew how difficult it was to convince any of was generally understood, yet that modified slavery il'sia ' which pre the lion. Gentlemen opposite of the imieoliey of the monopo- vailed in the system of serfs would present a formidable esttrate c w litfi ith . lies either of sugar or corn. The Right Hon. Baronet, in his culty ; and the Right Hon. Gentleman must retno a n speech on the Irish debate—(Question, quest ion)—spoke of a the Czar of Russia, and beg that his Imperial M roan, charged with riding over a piece of land while hunting, issue better regulations for the treatment of hisjssuby'eclosuld being tried by a jury of fox-hunters. He was just in that con- g' (Cries of " Hear, hear.") The Right Honourable Gentle. dition. They had galloped over his interests—(oh, oh man objected to slavery in the Brazils, because it en -they had trampled over the interests of 500 or 600 men couraged means the slave trade, and because the only of who m h e emp l oye d i n t h at trade, that greatly depended getting rid of o r fthe g slave trade was by abolishing slavery in on the B raz ili an tra d e ; t h ey h a d disregarded the vital inte. that country. Ihe Right Hon. Gentleman said last year that rests of seve r al hundreds of working men, by whose suffrages he he would consent to the admission of Brazilian sugar on condi he was p erm itt e d to spea k i n that House. He was here on h own account and on theirs, to plead before a jury —not of fox- tem that immediate measures should be introduced by the hunters, but monopolists, and he was endeavouring to show withltrazilian Government to ameliorate the state of the slave, that his constituents were wronged by the system"they Ba the ultimate view of abolishingslavery.Nw he (Mr, ported. Who had denied it ? The President of the Board s ring) slid not look with the slightest feelings of Ore . - Peet on the strong feeling which was exhibited in Trade did not a say a word about it ; he knew a great this deal better. The Right Honourable Baronet at the hear.) cou i t l i e try bel on the subject of slavery. —( Hear, his head of the Government proficient as he was in man to dobest toit to be the thatduty of every . get rid of scourge of the art must have envied his President o f th e t h e h uman race; but he would ask whether any conditions Board of Trade the powers he possessed. He had nev er h ear d w hi c h they might impose on Brazil ere likely to produce the so many words put together with so much smoothness, and s o s li g ht est e ff ect ? How could they carry itout ? The whole entirely avoiding the question under discussion. And when argument rested upon this. The Right Hon. Gentleman ad the flight Hon. Baronet got up himself, he would venture to mated that there was no deficiency in the formal words of the say that he would as studiously evade the question as he had existing treaties. And he stated that if the treaties were car done. Why was it? Why had any class, eitheir in that coun- ried into effect the slave -trade would be abolished to-morrow. try or in the colonies, the right, or why did they assert the Why was not this done? Because the slave-trade was patro -1 power, to prevent the larger portion of the population of nised and encouraged by the noble and provincial authori this country from having that supply of sugar , ties of Brazil ; and because every person in authority which their industry might purchase for them ? ; who set himself honestly to vet rid of the slave. trade Now he asked some Hon. Gentleman on the opposite side to . was dismissed from hie office. Would they leave it then to the tell them that, It was all very well for Hon, Gentlemen Brazilian Government to carry into effect in the interior of the THE SITN, LONDON, FRIDAY MORNING, MA RCH 8, 1844. recommend a reduction of the sugar dot ies, why not recommend it in plain terms in his resolution ? He said that unless they placed the duty on Brazilian sugar on the same footing as co lonial sugar, he would offer opposition to the sugar duties on every stage, on every line, and on every word. He did not apprehend that the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Milner Gibson) would meet unqualified support even from his own side of the House ; they were not pre' ared to adapt . the principle that Brazilian and Cuba sugar was to be treated in the same manner as colonial sugar ; they would discriminate. Nothing could be more unjust than to impose the same rate of duty in foreign countries in which slavery existed, and in our colonies where slavery was not tole rated.—( Hear, hear.) The Government were accused of en couraging monopoly, but the Government would not, notwith standing those taunts, disregard the condition of their colonial dependencies, nor would they act without taking into aceount the sound considerations connected with them. It was very well for the Lion. Member for Durham to say that no question should be considered but the interests of the consumers, and that what most tended to cheapen the price of sugar was the only real question. Now, he doubted, after all, whether that was the most economical view of the subject. Suppose the course recommended by the Hon. Member were pursued, and that our colonies were in consequence involved in distress and anarchy, he doubted whether they could release themselves from the moral obligation at present connected with them, and whether in so doing they would be consulting true economy. The Hon. Gen Leman said that the interests of the consumer and the promotion of commerce were the two only objects which the Government should regard. If these opinions were acted upon it was vain to look for the extinction of slavery. If the cheapness of sugar was the only thing to be sought after, why had they gone to so much expense for the purpose of putting down slavery ? Why not permit slavery in our own colonies—why not give them the power of supporting 'slaves, when they would be enabled to produce sugar cheaper ? ( Hear, hear.) Before the abolition of the slave trade in the West Indian colonies they produced much more sugar than they did since—they were able to supply not only this country, but they had a surplus. The Government were now about to adopt a much more effectual plan than any hitherto resorted to for the suppression of the slave trade. Slaves were still imported into the Brazils by thousands and tens of thousands ; and the local autherities of the country, he was sorry to say, connived at this odious traffic. It was suggested to the Government by Captain Denman, an officer who deserved the thanks of every true philanthropist for his exertions in sup pressing the slave trade, that our naval force should be in creased on the (yeast of Africa so that they could act with com plete efficiency. They were to keep censtant guard on that part of the coast, and the utmost vigilance to be used. By thus watching evey port on the coast for 600 or 700 miles, Captain Denman believed that much more would be done than by any treaties or stipulations to check the trade, and prevent the horrors of the passage. The Government were about to give this plan a trial. More steamers would be employed, and no precaution or exertion would be wanting to carry out the ob ject, and ho trusted in God they would be successful.— ( Hear, hear.) But, according to the Hon. Member's doctrine to make sugar Id. cheaper was a sufficient justification of the toleration of slavery. He trusted that the House of Commons would he influenced by higher feelings than those expressed by the Hon. Member for Durham. Twenty millions had been granted by this country for the purpose of abolishing slavery in our own dominions • and he trusted that the House was not prepared to follow in the wake of the Hon. Gentleman, for if so, they Could admit !hat they had not been justified in the expenditure of a single shilling of that sum, which had been allocated for the mitigation of that great moral evil.— ( Hear, hear.) There was a time when the persuasion to which the Hon. Member belonged would not have advocated such sentiments.—( Hear, hear, from the Ministerial benches, and cries of Oh, oh, from the Opposition). They would rather have made a sacrifice for the abolition of slavery. Last year, they had passed an Act, prohibiting the employment of British capital in producing those articles in which slave labour was engaged. They were now about making a great experiment, fur the purpose of preventing the importation of slaves ; but if they abolished the duty on Brazilian sugar, they would be giving a fresh impetus to slavery. He agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman in thinking it unwise, inexpedient, and improper to interfere with the domestic Legis lature of another country, but he did not agree with him is thinking that no measure could be carried out which would effectually prevent slavery. If the Brazilians agreed for in stance that in future the children of the African negroes should be burn free, or that after a certain period the slaves should be set free—these things would have the desired effect, and such a result it was not impossible to effect. He deprecated all in terference in any matter connected with this treaty which would have a tendency to encourage the Brazilians in demand ing from that House any concession likely to prevent the House &rani exercising that independence which all Executives should have in negotiations with another country.—( Cheers. ) Lord PALMER.STON said he should not, at that late hour, detain the House long. He did not think that the Hon. Member for Durham had been fairly dealt with.—(Cheers.) The Right Hon. Baronet had wished to pay a compliment to the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer, but he (Lord Palmerston) thought that the compliment might have been well returned to the Right Hon. Baronet himself.— ( Laughter.) He asserted that this question had been put upon a narrow basis. In reply to the statement of the Right lion. Baronet with respect to the admission of sugar, he should ask him whether the supply should not only be as great as that required for the consumption of the country, but also whether there would not be a great impulse given to the trade of the country ?—( Hear, hear.) He thought that this question assumed quite a different shape when it became sine of negotiation. In a speech from the Throne, the Government announced its inten tion of departing front its usual cu.torn, and that totally diffe rent persons were to be entrusted with their negotiations. He said that he never yet knew the powers with which these ne gotiations were carried on, nor their results. The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite had stated, in answer to his (Lord Pal merston's) Right Honourable Friend, that these arrangements were most difficult of accomplishment, and that there should be o' commereial interests between the two countries. But his Right Hon. Friend's query was, how these negotiations were to be carried on, and, therefore, it was quite a different question from that touched upon by the Right Hon. Gentleman oppo site. It had been stated that the Government of Brazil had made some most unreasonable proposals. The Right Hon. Gentleman was right not to accept them. If the matter had been carried on as it should have been in 1841, they would have been enabled to gain better terms now, It was not a mere question as to whether slavery in Brazil should be abolished or not. It was a well known fact that the Brazilian Goverument agreed on terms with the representatives of the Crown of Great Britain, that persons engaged in the slave trade should be treated as felons. On the showing of the Right Hon. Gentleman op posite, it was quite cleat that the Brazilian Government had rot fulfilled the conditions of the treaty of 1826. If the Brazilian Government had faithfully executed the conditions of the treaty, there would be no necessity for an Act of the British Parliament to protect Brazilian produce against that of free labour.—( Hear, hear.) It was notorious to all the world that thousands of slaves were annually ; and h e wou ld put i t to t h e house n whether which was sh own was no t a zea l anua imported the into great Brazilzeal to favour those who favoured the Government.—( Cheers. The whole object of the Government was to serve the West Bmroanzoilpiaonlys emancipated their slaves, or India interest.—( Cheers.) The whole obj ec t o f t h e measure of the West Indies .—( Hear. Right Hon. B aronet ( Si r R. P ee l ), ul ts fn a tt s ihi l : o ya m su a .sa i u n i gt t eg a de i r s i ut t ie, h td e i i s b u )t g .ht a e, h r e they appointed a time after which all children born of negro slaves should be considered free, in his ( Lord Palmerston's) ap prehension no person in that House would live to see theday when foreign sugar would be admitted i nto t hi s country.—( Hear.) The Government were always very liberal in their speeches and declarations, but when called upon to put those principles into effect, then they fell back into their old and usual do-no thing habits.—(Hear, hear.) They told the House and the country that the principles of free trade were the principles of common sense—they told the merchants and manufac turers of the country that their true policy was to buy in the cheapest, and to sell in the dearest market—but when they were asked, even in a modified degree, to apply the rule either to corn, or sugar, or coffee, or.anything else, then they ran back for support to the monopolists upon whose shoulders they came into power.—f Loud cheers.) The Right lion. Baronet (Sir Robert Peel) objected to the motion be cause it related exclusively to Brazil, and might, from its sole and direct application to that country, have an injurious ten dency on•any future negotiation s that might take place between that Government and the English Cabinet.—( Hear, hear.) This might be remedied ; and he was sure his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Labouchere) who proposed this address to the Crown, in his tie:ire to conciliate opposition and to meet the views of sll parties, would meet the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) half-way, or even entirely, by leaving out the word Brazil altogether and generalizing the verbiage of the motion so as to include our trade and com merce with all foreign States whatever.—( Hear, and loud cheers.) In his (Lord Palmerston's) opinion it would be better not to single out Brazil, but to make the address appli cable to every country in the world, and he was sure his Right Hon. Friend the mover, and his other Hon. Friends around him, would cheerfully support any amendment to that effect, which either the Right Hon. Baronet himself (Sir R. P ee l) or any of his supporters on the Treasury benches might think proper to propose.—( Laughter and loud cheers.) Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared— For the motion Against it lajurity again:t the motion -73 MOST-OFFICE. Mr, HAWES asked when the returns respecting the Posy office, which he had moved for, would be laid on th e table. Sir G. CLERK said that those which were ready would be produced immediately, and the others as soon as possible. The House ►hen adjourned at a Quarter to One. LAW INTELLIGENCE. 110 USE OF LORDS, March 7. The House sat to day at ten o'clock to hear appeals. The Peers present were Lord Cottenham (who presided in the absence of the Lord Chancellor), Lord Campbell, and Lord Sudeley. FAIIRELL V GLEESON. The arguments in this case, which came before their Lordships upon appeal from the Court of Exchequer in Ireland, occupied their Lordships the whole morning. COURT OF CHANCERY, March 7 The Lord-Ch;;;ellorsatiniincoln's Inn.had and heard appeals to-day, but nn case came before his Lordship having interest suffi cient to warrant a special report. VICE-CHANCELLOR'S COURT, March 7. 100 LE V. LANGDON. The Vice-Chancellor of England was occupied the whole morn ng with the further arguments on this part.heard case. CENTRAL CRI VEINAL COURT. OLD COURT. (Before Lord ABINGER and Mr. Justice WILLTAMS.) REVOLT ON BOARD Slur.— William JP Gregor and Marks Lambert, two mariners, were put to the bar, charged with en deavouring feloniously and piratically to make a revolt on board the brig Esther, upon the high seas, within the juris diction of the Admiralty of England. Mr. Clarkson and Mr. Ballantine conducted the prosecu tion ; the prisoners were without counsel. The case having been stated by Mr. Clarkson, the follow ing witnesses were called : John Whitehead sworn—l am clerk to the owners of the brig Esther. Here are the ship's articles, signed by Bl‘Gregor, whose signature I attested. Moses Nathan—l live at 192, Ratcliffe -highway. I attested the signature of Lambert to the ship's articles now produced. James Taylor—l was the second mate on board the brig Esther, Richard Lucas Williams, master, bound to the island of Desolation.. The brig registered 280 tons. Including first, second, and third mate, there were twenty-fonr hands on board. Three weeks after we sailed, and when off the island of Madeira, we got a whale. Soon after this happened, there was a good deal of bad language used towards the captain by the prisoner Dl‘Gregor, and by another man named Griggs. Griggs d-- the b— ship, and wished her bottom would fall out. The captain desired him to use better language, and Griggs re pli e d that his language was good enough both for the ship and the captain. M‘Gregor then said if every man was like him, they wou ld not be humbugged by such a captain. Thi s h e said direct to the captain. Other bad lan guage was used. The captain said the man was speaking against his conscience ; and the other said he was not, for he was humbu gge d by b eing always . watch. He complained of the boilers for boiling the blubber being placed in the forecastle. Other him hittl ceroplained country, measures to ameliorate the condition of the slaves with a view to their ultimate emancipation ?—( Hear, hear.) When they could not carry into effect a treaty with cruisers, steam- vessels, and cannon, would they leave it to the Brazilian Government to carry out their object?—( Hear, hear.) Did they mean to establish in the Brazils protectors of the slaves? Was the Consul to be constantly receiving complaints and car rying them to the Government ? Could they, as the result of such a state of things, expect anything but perpetual com plaints on the one side, and perpetual dislike and hostility on the other ? When slavery existed in their West India colo nies, would they have permitted any foreign country to act as the protector to the slave population ?—( Hear, hear.) He sincerely believed that if any foreign Power had had a right to interfere and to make complaints to the British Government, the effect would have been to unite one of the most powerful of all feelings---the feeling of national pride, with the worst of causes—the cause of slavery, while the abolition of slavery would rather have been postponed than accelerated by such interference.—( Hear.) At that hour he would not trespass any longer on the attention of the House. He could not but again express a hope that if Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite conceived that the coffee and sugar duties must eventually be altered, they should be wise in time,_ and not postpone till it was:too late to attempt to restore the commercial relations of this country with one of the most important countries in the world.—(Cheers ) Sir R. PEEL said he promised the House that he would make no observation which had not an immediate bearing on the question under consideration ; and also that he would imi tate the general tone and temper in which the Right How. Gen tleman who had just addressed them had discussed this subject. He would not even follow him its his criticisms on the failure in the estimates of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He would not stop to inquire whether he himself was open to re crimination, though he did not know any one who should exer cise more tolerance in reference to erroneous estimates.— ( Hear, hear, and laughter.) The Right Hon. Gentleman said it was particularly unfortunate that the Government had not, some short time since, adopted a more liberal policy towards the Brazils; and, to illustrate his meaning, he fixed upon a period of two or three years. If the Right Hon. Gentleman had mentioned three or four years, so as just to include the year 1840—(Laughter)—that year, in which be had offered a strenuous opposition to the proposal of the Hon. Gentleman who had seconded the motion that evening, the House would be equally able to form an opinion in reference to the delay. —(Laughter.) Having thus dismissed any reference of a personal nature, he must say that he thought the Right Hon. Gentleman was hardly warranted in the statements which he had made with reference to the diminished consumption in sugar. It was impossible to come to a right conclusion in reference to a question of this nature if they dismissed all re ference to figures. He begged to refer the House to the quan tity of sugar taken out for home consumption for several years past. In 1837 the amount was 3,954,000 cwt. ; in 1838, 3,825,000 cwt. ; in 1839, 3,590,000 cwt. ; in 1840, 4,065,000 cwt. ; in 1842, 3,876,000 cwt. ; and its last year 4,045,000 cwt., being a greater consumption than had been known in any former year, with the single exception of 1841, and the increased consumption in that year was accounted for by the deficient supply of the preceding one. They had therefore this fact before them that in the year ending the Ist January, 1844, the consumption of sugar in this country was greater with one exception than in any pre ceeding year.—( Hear, hear.) Now did that increased con sumption lead to an increased price ?—( Hear, hear.) In 1837, the price of sugar was 395. 2d. per cwt.; in 1840. 495.; in 1841, 38s. 3d. ; in 1842, 375. 3d. ; in 1843, 345. Id. ; so that the year of the greatest consumption was coincident with that of the lowest price. Therefore, in answer to the criticisms of the Right Hon. Gentleman he had these two facts, that in the last year there had been the greatest con sumption, and in the last y ear there had also been the lowest price.—( Hear, hear.) t the same time he was bound to confess that he did not think these facts at all conclusive against the probability of an increase in the consumption of sugar was in consequence of the reduction of duty. He thought there was scarcely an article could be named the reduction of the price of which would not add materially to the comforts of the people.—( Hear, hear.) But Hon. Gentlemen should nut press into their service as an argument against the Govern ment, that the supply had diminished while the price had in creased, when the fact was, that the supply had increased and the price diminished. Mr. HAWES—Not quite. Sir R. PEEL said he compared 1842 with 1843. Of course there had been a slight increase in the population ; but he had not taken a remote period. Now what was the Right Hon gentleman's motion ?—( The Right Hon. Baronet here read the words of the motion at length.) It would be an extra ordinary course for the House of Commons to select one country, of all the countries in the civilized world, and present an address to her Majesty on the importance of our trade with that country.—( Hear, hear.) He did net wish to undervalue the trade of Brazil, though he thought its importance ha I been rather exaggerated. But why, he would ask, should the House of Commons select Brazil in particular as the subject of an address to her elajesty ? Had it reference to recent nego tiations ? If it had, then he decidedly objected to the motion, because it implied approbation of the course Brazil had pur sued. Brazil had made an offer to England. Now the manu factures of England were introduced into Brazil at a duty of fifteen per cent. The proposition made by Brazil to this country was—•' You shall not impose a duty upon our sugar when imported in England, when it shall exceed one-tenth of the amount of duty levied on colonial sugar." That was to say--" If you levy a tatty of 10s. on colonial sugar, we shall protest against your imposing more than I 1 s. upon Braziliau sugar--( Hear, hear)—but at the same time we demand this from you, that you will permit us to raise the duty now levied on British manutactures from 15s. to 40s."—( Cheers and laughter.) That was the proposal made to this country by Brazil, and that proposal this country rejected.—( Cheers. ) He hoped the House of Commons would not sanction a reso lution which implied that the proposition which he had just alluded to was a just and reasonable one. He should be sorry to say one word that could be considered offensive to the Go vernment of Brazil—but more especially if negotiations should be on the point of being entered into between this country and the empire of Brazil. lie should be sorry to say anything which might imply that he believed that the Government of Brazil were actuates! by anything but friendly feelings to wards this country, and he hoped he had said no word which could possibly be con'trued into an attempt to check the opera tion of that feeling. If they wanted to make Brazil unreason able—if they wanted to induce Brazil, in future negotiations, to insist on all she had hitherto insisted upon, then would they pass this resolution of the House of Commons, which would have that particular bearing, if it had any meaning at all. In what a position would they place the Government. He pre sumed the House of Commons was not going to undertake ne gotiations? No; the House of Commons was going to leave to the Executive Government the duty of undertaking and continuing the negotiations. By this resolution the House of Commons would fetter the Executive Government, for this address to the Crown, if it meant anything, implied approba tion of the course one party had taken, and that party adverse to the propositions of the Government of this country. Would not the Brazils say to the Government of this country, " You are fettered—this is implied by the proceedings of the House of Commons ; we insist on all we ask and have asked, for we have before us a resolution of the House of Commons, which, by im plication, conveys approbation of our proposals." He ( Sir R. Peel) earnestly advised the House of Commons to leave this mat ter in the hands of the Executive Government, and not encourage the Brazils to persevere in unreasonable propositions. He called upon them not tie up the hands of the Government. The House of Commons had been invited to affirm this reso lution upon various arguments, and he thought that 'Lost of those aleurnents had been electively destroyed by his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Gladstone). The Right Hon. Gentleman who brought forward this motion, had appealed to the House in the most solemn and emphatic manner, and he contrasted the conduct of Germany with the conduct of England. The Right Honourable Gentleman pointed to the course adopted by the Zollverein. " There," he said, " are your great manufacturing rivals your competitors, in the markets of Brazil. Now the greatest facility is given by the Zollverein for the importation of Brazilian produce, and what i s th e s y s t em you h ave pursues! ?" The Ri g ht Hon. Gentleman invited the House of Commons to vote for this address u e on that statement, and upon the assumption that the Zollverein imposed only a duty of 15s. per cent. upon sugar n s l w ,h e e r d to u t t y h i a m t p o w s a e s d , h t y h a t h t e i t z w o - a u e ve a r n ein et u it p i o r n ely urav wr l o i n al g , imported from Brazil. N ow hi s (Si r R. Peel ' s) Right Hon. statement. Friend's a sugar was not 15s. per cent., but 275. per cent. The Right Hon. Gentleman ( Mr. Labouchere) then referred to some friendly trea ties which had been lately entered into, he said, between France and Brazil, by which the manufactures of France were to be admitted into Brazil at a low duty. He (Sir R. Peel) knew the effect that was sought to be created by that statement, for its contradiction would have little effect to-morrow. He could only say, as the Minister of England, if such a treaty had been signed at Paris, that no information of such a fact had reached the Government of this country ; and if it had been signed, the fact was wholly unknown to the French Ambassador residing in this coutery.—( Cheers on the Ministerial side of the House.) He ( Sir Robert Peel) must say, when he recol lected the difficulties in which the French Government were placed with respect to sugar, that he did not think it probable that any treaties could have been signed for admitting Brazilian sugar into France at a very low duty. Now the Hun. Member for Manchester (Mr. M. Gibson) had made sonic of the bisldest statements he ( Sir R. Peel) had ever heard. The Hon. Gentleman said, " I give you warning ; the commerci ii classes are all decidedly against you on this ques tion of imposing discriminating duties between sugar the pro duce of free labour and the produce of slave labour." He then said, "I tell you that the Anti-Slavery Association are de cidedly averse to your view." He said, "'t hey condemn the whole system of armed intervention fur the purpose of suppress ing the slave trade. Your armed steamers are adieus to them, for they do not want to inculcate morality by means of discriminating duties." Now he ( Sir Robert I'eel) expected that this argument would be used, and if he had been told to name the man who would use it he would have named the Hon. Member for Manchester.—( Cheers anti laughter.) He ( Sir R. Peel) had, therefore, provided himself against this statement. He happened fortunately to have a document in his poeseszion, received by himself from the Anti-Siavery So ciety within the last month. lie hoped, therefore, that the Hon. Gentleman would permit the Anti-Slavery Society to speak for themselves. This document was addressed to him, and was dated Feb. 9, 1844 :—" Sir,—The Committee of the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society deem it their duty to lay before you their views in selation to a subject so inti mately connected with the great object of their proceedings— the extension of the slave trade." He ( Sir Robert Peel) was perfectly willing to admit that part of this communication confirmed the statement of the Honourable Gentleman that the Anti-Slavery So. ciety were not favourable to Brined intervention as a means of suppressing the slave trade. He would put this document into his hand, and then the lion. Gentleman could se. whether there was any passage in it he wild find favourable to his own views. The document went on to state that all experience allowed that the armed intervention only aggravated the evil of slavery. Under the influence of that consideration they went on—" The Committee present their earnest request to you, Sir Robert, and her Majesty's Government, that a measure may be prepared for admitting the free grown produce of all parts of the world on the same terms as the produce of our colonies. And the Committee desire and trust that no relaxation of the existing duty on the produce of slave-labour will be allowed." —(Cheers.) These were the opinions expressed by that .anti- Slavery Society, which the Hon. Gentleman had told the House of Commons were men who did not wish to inculcate morality by means of discriminating duties between sugar the produce of free-labour, and sugar the produce of slave-labour. Mr. M. GIBSON—I do not admit that that Committee re represents the Anti-Slavery Society. Sir R. PEEL—But the lion. Member wished to leave an impression on the House that the Anti-Slavery Society were opposed to all discriminating duties as a means of suppressing slavery and the slave trade. Now, by whom was this letter signed ? The lion. Member said he did not admit the autho rity, but all he ( Sir Robert Peel) could say, was that the com munication bore the venerable name of Thomas Clarkson.— ( Hear, hear.) He (Sir R. Peel) very much doubted whether the Anti-Slavery Society would disclaim sentiments expressed by such a person, and professed by every one connected with the Anti-Slavery Society. Now, he did not say that all those opinions which he had read ought to be binding on the Legis ture, and he did not mean to attach more weight to them than they deserved, but; be did protest against Hon. Gentle men invoking the authority of the Anti-Slavery Society for the snpport of their own views, when it was proved on the authority of the Anti-Slavery Society itself, that their views were decidedly opposed to theta The Right lion. Gentleman who had brought forward this motion had intimated that his object was to obtain a declaration from the Govern meat oh the subject of the sugar duties, It his object was to before that of the coppers. The armourer attempted to re move the coppers, but in vain. The captain gave permission to the men to remove the coppers if they could, but they flied to do so without effect. At this time they were on salt provhions, the stock of fresh being exhausted. A day or two before Griggs was shot, I asked M'Gregor whose look-out it was? and he replied it was his. He was then going over the fore castle deck, and I said to him that was a poor way of keeping a proper look-out. He said d- and b- the look-out ; and I replied lie need not use such language as that, no more than any other man. He said lie should never be satisfied in that ship until he had kicked up ab- good row. I said he should have no row with me. He said no, he would have no row with me, but he would have with that long b- who was aft. At this time the captain was aft. The captain is a tall man. On the 30th of September it was M'Gregor's watch below. He was then lying on the forecastle deck. I reported this to the first mate. It was raining heavily at the time, and the weather was very hot. The first mate asked him what he was lying there for; and he answered to please himself. The mate said he had better go below out of the wet. He replied, he was hot enough there, without going below. The mate said if it was too warm to go down there, he might go down on the half-deck. M'Gregor said he had no business going down the half-deck. The mate then bid him go down the forehold, anywhere he liked, for if he laid there, he would certainly get the fever. IVl‘Gregor said that was the thing he wauted to catch, for another stroke of work he would not do on board that ship. The mate told the captain this, and he then came forward and said he thought M'Gregor was a man of better conduct, but he ap peared to be turning out a regular vagabond. M'Gregor said, " It's not me that's the vagabond, but yourself." At noon of the same day it was M'Gregor's watch, and he ought to have been at the wheel. He would not go to the wheel, and when I asked him to do so, he replied he was going to do no more work on board that ship. The captain, first mate, and myself then held a consultation together as to what was to be done. At six o'clock that evening it was 'We're goes turn again on deck. He was below, and I called him to duty, but he refused to come. The Ist of October was a Sun day. lll‘Gregor's watch was from eight to twelve at noon. He would not work. I asked him was he going to do his duty, and he replied if they were a twelvemonth out he would do no more work on board the b- ship. The first mate then called all hands aft on the deck. M'Gregor was sitting by the heel of the bowsprit. He said he had no occasion to go aft, and the mate asked him why? He said he was off duty and would work no more. The mate said he had better go with the rest of the ship's company. He said he would go and hear the news. Lambert was at the other side and heard all that was said. Lambert also said he was off duty and would not go aft. The mate asked who put him off duty, and he said he put himself off duty, but he might as well go aft, and hear what news there was on. board the b treadmill. He then went aft. All the rest of the crew were aft but him. Grigg was aloft at the forewast-top on the look-out for whales. All the crew were at the larboard side aft but 111‘Gregor, who was on the starboard. The captain, who was at the Companion door, asked what the crew meant. 31‘Gregor, Lambert, and some others said they wanted more beef. The captain said they had what was put on board before they left port at London, and what was always given out to South-Sea men. He also told them they had no cause to fall out, for they had all meat three times a clay and bread without limit. Each man had a pound of meat per clay. The captain said he had no wish to take any meat hone with him, and on their home ward voyage they might eat it all up. He then asked 31‘Gregor if he would go arid do his duty, and APGregor replied, no, he would not. The captain then went and fetched the articles and read them. 111‘Gregor said those were not the articles he had signed. The captain finished reading them. and then again asked M'Gregor to do his duty, which he refused. The captain then called to the crew, one and all, to do their duty, and put ArGregor in irons. They were all there, except Griggs, who was at the mast-head. The crew all went forward, and made no reply. Lambert went forward with them. The captain then said " M'Gregor, I must put you in irons." M'Gregor desired him to take care, for he should not iron him, and he drew his hand back, as if about to strike at the first mate, who had advanced to seize him. I caught his hand. He tried to trip up the first mate, but I tripped him up, and so brought him down. He resisted very violently. The captain and mate were trying to put the irons on him while I held him. He struck me and bit me. The boat-steerer was helping me. • M'Gregor called us a parcel of cowards and b—. The captain was kneeling, trying with the mate to get the hand-cuffs on M'Gregor. Lambert came aft, and told the captain to "release that man," and the captain said he would not on any account. At that' moment John Griggs came up, and said, " Williams, do you intend to release that man ?" I did not see Griggs drop down from the tops. 3PGregor was still struggling on the deck. The captain said he would do his duty, and would not release him. The mate said, " Hearken,men, hearken ; mind what you're doing." Griggs said " There's no hearkening here—we won't hearken." Lambert then, striking his fist on the top of the companion, said, " By G— we'll make you let him go." Griggs said, " Yes, by G—; give me a lance and I'll soon clear him." The captain, on this, instantly let M'Gregor go. The boats were swinging from the davits. In one of these boats, on the larboard side, were three harpoons and three lances. Griggs jumped on to the rail, from which he could reach the lances. Brown, one of the crew, hauled him back. The captain sang out to the steward to hand: him his gun. Before he so sung out, he said, " If it's a lance you want, it's time to look out." The steward handed up the captain his gun. The captain had one foot down the companion ladder, in order to take the gun when handed to him. I saw it in his hands. Griggs was again trying to get up to the place where the lances were. The crew cleared away. The captain fired instantly at Griggs, and shot him dead. He shot him right in the back. There was then no one trying to pull him back—no one near him—for when the captain got his gun the crew cleared off. The mate had also called for and got his gun. On this Lambert sang out that he would go to his duty, and 31`Gregor ran down into the forehold, and stowed himself away. I went down to look for him, and told him io go on deck, for the captain wanted to speak to him. He said he was not going on deck to be shot at by that b--- captain. He went up, however, and the captain asked him what he was going to do, and he said be was not going to do anything ; but give him a pistol and he was not afraid of him or of any other man. The captain said he did not want his life, and he added—" Do yon think I am a murderer ; I have taken one man's life already, and I don't want another at present. Will you do your duty ?" M'Gregor said be would, if there was to be no more about it. The captain said there would be no more about it at present, and ll‘Gregor then went to his duty. So also did the crew. The captain, first mate, and I then consented together, and we resolved to make Rio, which was the nearest port. When we arrived there, an inquiry was gone into before the Consul. There was an En glish man-of-war in port. I, George Field, and John Thomp son, as witnesses, together with the two prisoners at the bar, were sent home, and the captain got more men and proceeded on his voyage. Cross-examined by APGregor—There , was no disturbance on board when the whale was taken. The ship was not on fire. The bowsprit was burnt from the funnel. We were not 2,000 miles from Rio when Griggs was shot. I don't re collect the captain finding me asleep on deck, and then going forward and abusing the hands. I recollect the boat of the English man-of-war Frolic coming alongside at Rio. I don't know if Captain Williams reported a man shot, or the crew in a state of mutiny. .1 myself signalled for a man-of war's boat to come alongside. Three men-of-war were lying in the harbour. The captain took down the signal—he would not allow it. By Lambert—l was not in the boat when the whale was killed. I never was in a whaler before, and never crossed the line. Lambert—l tell you you were the cause of all the dis turbance. You know you are no navigator—you know nothing of whaling. You are no South-Sea man—not you, indeed. You know you are not fit for the situation you held. "Witness—l dare say I can steer a boat as well as you. You are two gentlemen that both know too much for our selves, and managed to outlaw yourselves.—(A laugh.) Cross-examination by Lambert resumed—l never heard you refuse your duty until the Sunday morning. I never heard you complain to the captain that the forecastle was so hot there was no bearing it. By Lord ABINGER—After the affair of the 30th September, the coppers remained below. A Juror desired Lord Abinger to inquire from the prisoners why they were undefended? Lord ABINGER—I do not think it a proper question, Sir. The Juror—l don't see that. My opinion is, they have no Counsel for want of funds to pay one. Both prisoners—Yes, Sir; that is the reason. The Juror—lf any gentleman at the ter will be gook enough to undertake their defence, I will see him paid. None of the Counsel at the bar replied, and the case pro ceeded. There Were tWo other witnesses, George Field, a mariner, and John Thompson, cook, examined in support of the charge. Their evidence went to a very great length, but it was identical with that of the first witness, which we have given pretty nearly in full. In their defence, M'Gregor said the whole of the crew had many grounds of complaint, and were, natu rally enough, always grumbling. There was nothing but discontent on board, on account of the dread ful heat, caused by the way in which the boilers were placed, which, added to the heat of the weather, was almost unbearable. The provisions were unwholesome, and the captain was always goading them by the most horrid and abusive language. On one occasion the chief mate had brutalry ill-used him, and the captain never protected him, or any of his men, at all, but was a party to all the ill-usage on board. He (M'Gregor) had demanded of his own accord to be given up to the first English man-of-war they should fall in with, or to be given up to the British Consul at the first port they might touch at. Lambert, the other prisoner, confirmed M'Gregor's state ment, and added, that when he interfered it was not to save M'Gregor from being put into custody, but to have it done in a more merciful way, as there three on him at once, and he thought from the violence used by them that he must have been killed. Lord Abinger summed up the case to the jury, who, having consulted in the box for some minutes without being able to agree upon their verdict, were directed to retire for consultation. They did so retire at about a quarter to four o'clock, and were absent until past eight o'clock, when they returned into Court, and the foreman pronounced a verdict of Guilty against the prisoner M'Gregor, and acquitted the other prisoner. The jury coupled with their verdict the fol lowing statement :—‘‘ That the jury are of a decided opinion, and strongly recommend that the slightest punishment that the Court can pass ought to be inflicted, considering there was much real cause for discontent and complaint, which complaint was not only manifested by the prisoners, but by all the crew, excepting the officers. The jury consider the captain and owners of the vessel highly reprehensible for not having provided sufficiently for the wants and comfort of the men." THE QUEEN v. Hour. When the Judges retired, and the Recorder took his seat in the Court, soon after five o'clock, Mr. CLIRKSON moved for judgment on the defendant, who it will be recollected was found guilty on Monday lust upon an indictment for publishing a false, wicked, and malicious libel upon Lord William Paget, in reference to the Paget and Cardigan proceedings. rho RixormEn said, as the prosecutor desired judgment to be passed during the present session of the Central Criminal Court, the defendant (now a prisoner in the Queen's Prison) must be in attendance on Saturday morning at ten o'clock. THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION. At the usual meeting of the National Association, held at their Hall, High Holborn, on Tuesday last, the following resolutions were unanimously agreed to; pro posed by Mr. H. Mitchell, seconded by. Mr. W. Lovett. Ist.—That Mr. O'Connell having stated in his de fence on his late trial, that " The Charter purposed a violation of all property," he well-knowing (from being one of the Committee who drew up the Charter) that such statement was false and utterly devoid of founda tion, this Association is of opinion that such conduct is deserving the severest reprehension. 2d.—That while it expresses its cordial sympathy with the people cG . Ireland in their manifold oppressions, it cannot but regret that Mr. O'Connell. while advo cating the redress of Irish wrongs, should step out of his way to throw falsehood and calumny on principles by whiel► it is sought to remedy the common wrongs of all, by the extension of the franchise to all. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. (YESTERDAY.) MANSION-HOUSE. The first mate of the ship Diana, who was on Monday last summoned before the Lord Mayor and Sir J. Pixie to answer the complaint of the widow of the captain of that vessel, under circumstances of an extraordinary character, and ordered to find bail to answer for his ap pearance yesterday at the justice-room, attended before Sic Peter Laurie, according to appointment, to answer any charge which might be brought against him. Mr. Bozon appeared as solicitor for the prosecution, and Mr. Francis, of Monument-yard, attended upon th e part of the defendant. Mr. Goodman (the chief clerk to the Lord Mayor) having briefly stated the substance of what took place on the first examination, which was reported at length in the newspapers, Mr. Francis (the solicitor to the defendant) requested to be informed what was the exact charge against his client. Sir P. LAURIE said that from what he understood there were two charges of a very serious nature—a charge of murder and a charge of setting fire to the Ship. Mr. Goodman stated that the distinct charge brought against the first mate was, that he had detained a gold watch and chain belonging to Captain May, who was found in his cabin, shot through the head, and produced a metal watch and chain to the widow instead of them, and that he had taken possession of the vessel, and steered for St. Helena, where he sold part of the goods, instead of going to the Island of Ascen Mr. Francis said that the charge, as it appeared in the 7 inzes newspaper, was very different from that which Sir Peter Laurie had described. Mr. Bozon—l shall be able to pr-ve, I think, that the captain had a gold watch arid chain about him, and the watch and chain he handed to the captain's widow were merely metal. I call William Melton. William Mel. , n, of Ne. 26, Weymouth-street, New Kent-road, stated that he was carpenter in board the Diana, in May last, when she was at St. Helena, and he wat in th, vessel at the time the captain aaS found shot in the cabin. Captain May had a watch. Mr. Bozon—Was it a gold watch ? Witness—lt was of the colour of gold. Ido not know that it was gold. He showed it to me at sea. It was a small watch. Mr. Bozon —Did you ever see it in St. Helena ? Witness—Never. Sir PETER LAURIE—Did you ever see it in the first mate's possession ? Witness—Never. Sir PETER LAURIE—This evidence by no means af fects the defendant. Mr. Bozon—l have not had sufficient time to examine the additional witnesses, as I have only 'ust arrited from Southampton, and I have been misinformed as to what this witness was able to prove. I shall, however, call another witness, and in the mean time I request that Sir Peter Laurie will read these letters, which treat of the subject. Mr. Francis—l wish every statement to be openly and distinctly made, and protest against insinuations. The gentleman before Sir Peter Laurie is prepared to meet any straightforward charge. Mr. Bozon—l shall call a witness to another point. Jeremiah Drake, who was then called by Mr. Bozon, said that he was an apprentice on board of the Diana when she was at St. Helena, and he recollected the time she blew up. Sir PETER LAURIE—What do you think was the cause of the explosion ? The witness had not answered when Mr. Bozon said—" Do you recollect the first mate coming on board ?" Witness—l do not recollect the hour, but it was about dinner time. Mr. Bozon—Did he come from shore ? Witness—He did. He went to dinner in the after part of the vessel. Mr. Bozon—Where was the steward who was after wards blown up with part of the vessel ? Witness—He came on deck after he had p re p are d the dinner. Mr. Francis—lt was the duty of the first mate to be in the after part of the vessel. Mr. Bozon—We will not argue the matter. How soon after the first mate left the vessel to go ashore after dinner did the vessel blow up ? Witness—About ten minutes after. Mr. Bozon—By that explosion the poor steward was killed. That the blowing up was wilfully done there is no doubt. The gunpowder was secured with copper, as has already been proved. I expect evidence of an im portant nature in the course of about three weeks, and I have to apply to Sir Peter Laurie for a remand of the case until I shall have the opportunity of bringing for ward the evidence I speak of. Sir P. LAURIE—I must own that in such a case it must be satisfactory for the defendant to hear all the evidence, in order that he may have the best opportu nity of giving an answer for his own character's sake. Mr. Francis—He is in search of employment at sea at this moment, and it is important to him not to be de- , tained. Sir PETER LAURlE—Depend upon it he will not get employment, nor could he satisfactorily accept employ ment, until these matters are cleared up. The Defendant—Allow me to ask the witness a ques tion or two. Where were you when I entered the cabin of the ship ? Witness—l was forward. The Defendant—Was it possible for me, dressed in light-coloured clothes, as I was, to come from the maga zine without being contaminated or dirtied ? Witness —I don't know what sort of dress you had on. The Defendant—Could any one go down to the'place where the powder was kept,without being soiled or black ened ? Witness—Yes, I think so. The Defendant—Was it not under the cabin the pow der was kept ? Witness—lt was. The Defendant—(to Sir Peter Laurie)—lt was quite impossible for a person to get to the place where the magazine was kept without considerable difficulty, and without soiling himself. Witness intimated that it was not at all a difficult task to reach the magazine from the place in which the de fendant was situate. The Defendant—l will come forward, my Lord, most willingly to meet this, or any other charge. I wish for the most complete investigation. One of the gentlemen who bailed the defendant on the first day of examination, here stepped forward and de clared that a more grossly unfounded charge had never been made than that which had been insinuated against the gentleman accused. All the statements and in 4inuations had been equally gross and inconsistent. It had been mentioned in the first examination that the de l'endant had acted most improperly and culpably in sail ing for St. Helena instead of going on to Ascension Island. Now, any body who knew any thing at all of sea, must know that such an observation argued com plete ignorance. He (the defendant's bail) had been for a number of years at sea, and if the defendant had, under the circumstances, done anything but just what he had done, a discharge would have been what he would have merited. Mr. Francis—lt has been stated that the first place the vessel ought to have gone to was the Island of Ascen sion. Now, the ship was not in a safe state. There is no provision to be had at Ascension. It is merely a military station. The Defendant's bail--I would not hesitate to discharge him at once if he had gone there. Mr. Bozon—lt was within a few hours' sail, and the rest of the crew were anxious to go there at once. The Defendant's bail—What had the crew_ to do with the question ? The Defendant--Captain Lott, who is here, was ion the jury which sat upon the body of the steward, at St. Helena. You can speak, to him on the subject. Mr. Bozon—l have the verdict of the coroner's inquest here. Captain Lott stated that he was on the jury, and that the verdict was that the ship had been wilfully blown up by some person or persons unknown, and that Thomas Cox, the steward, met his death by the explosion. Mr. Francis—Was any person in charge upon the occasion ? Witness—No. Mr. Francis—Was any charge made against the second mate ? Witness—Yes, and he was declared to be innocent. Mr. PETER LAURIE—Were you on the jury during the whole of the investigation ? Witness—l was, and it was thoroughly investigated. The Defendant—And was not the foreman of the jury prejudiced against me, in your opinion? Witness—He was prejudiced against you in the opinion of every one. Mr. Francis—The defendant has a letter from the owners of the vessel, exculpating him altogether, and giving him credit, for the course he pursued. Here a letter was handed to Sir PETER LAURIE, who said, upon reading it, that the contents gave a- high character of the defendant, but the charge referred to his conduct, and not to his character. The defendant's bail again referred to the statement, on the first examination, as to the impropriety of taking the ship to St. Helena, and asked Captain Lott where he would have sailed to if he had had the command of her? Captain Lott—l would have gone home. Mr. Bozon submitted that such testimony as that showed that the ship ought not to have been taken to St. Helena. The defendant said that Mr. Bozon spoke in total ignorance of the difficulty of reaching the Island of As cension during the trade winds, if it had been advisable to make for that place. Sir PETER LAURIE—I think it is due to the defeat• dant himself, as well as to those who bring the accusa tion, to remand this case, in order that it may be fully investigated. Mr. Goodman (the Lord Mayor's clerk)—Do you, Mr. Bozon, believe that within three weeks you will receive important testimony with regard to this case ? Mr. Bozon—l do. The defendant then retired with his bail, the sureties having been continued to the amount already specified, namely, himself in 2001., and two sureties in 100/. each, as responsibility for his appearance in three weeks. QUEEN'S -SQUARE. Edward Boys, a respectable-looking man, was charged before Mr. Bond by Mr. Curtis, cheesemonger, York street, with embezzeling 12/. Ss., which he received in his capacity of shopman and traveller. It appeared from the statement of the complainant that the defendant was employed by him so far back as August, 1842, to collect moneys which were owing by customers residing in different parts of london. About a fortnight after entering his service, he went out to per form his duties as usual, but he had not been seen by the complainant from that time until the preceding night. Latchford 87 L, stated that when he took the defend- ant into custody, he did not deny the cbarge, but said that he got drunk and lost the money.—Remanded until Monday. DISTURBANCE IN CHAPELS.—A young man was charged with annoying the congregation of the Wes leyan Chapel, Horseferry-road, by shouting and other discordant noises. He was intoxicated at the time. The defendant expressed his regret at the occurrence, and was dis , .:harged with an admonition. THEATRICALS AT BRIG irroN.—On Monday even ing, the house opened to fifteen persons in the pit, two in the boxes, and two in the gallery. There was no perfQrnlitlice, and the money wariiiturned to the audience. IRELAND. e! • ,„, do, DUBLM, MARCH 4.—The usual weekly t in Tescr Repeal Association was held this day; 4" --- the chair. Mr. J. O'CONNELL read a letter from his father. 0, Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN handed in 1001. from Lini!,oP read a long Repo r t from the Committee app ointea' over the Parliamentary interests of Ireland. The rent was announced to be 495/. 4s. 9d. The following is Mr. O'Connell's 1101 " Trafalgar Hotel, Spring-gardens, .ar c h 'O, "My dear Ray,—No person can imagine'theSl3lo England is attributable to anything else than thea lity of my declining to accept that other Pre°S. ne r, 4 , sympathy evinced by the invitation to a public sto" - / 0 . 1 invitation you will have seen in the newspener s ' Or ceedingly anxious to reconcile the people of h0 ,... .5 11 towards each other. From the aristocratic clams expect no support, and the Chartists have stillleo 0 with us than the oligarchy. But the middls_..rtslo sound substantial middle classes of England — t i PF7o l o be strongly impressed with the injustice done trial bb the necessity of vindicating the purity of of daily 1,.4 There is a generous kindliness among them; ns n o otn, daily and hourly instances, and which render I ne ~,. os 2 anxious for a perfect conciliation between the W l dati tq' i good in both countries.. It is emphatically our lAt!,• mote this conciliation, and also to promote al 0 0 1 ' tending to ameliorate tho institutions of Eng l e2j o 0 tre i of Ireland. If the friends of humanity and jilsti! is' had a sufficient share of political power. much ;'; done for Ireland ; but alas ! that power hes c, ', 0 0 : bigoted and selfish aristocracy—the heretlitalle , liberality, and iu particular of the Irish people. I v . , unhappily, are of great use to the aristocracfr .....A 0 : 1 the oligarchy to preserve power in their hands- 7-" ire, I nd the Chartists are not numerous, yet they are ect' A Oa cient in number to disturb public meeting: s an' o r oes • development of public opinion ; but, let not this .At b . tt ment make us lose sight of the noble generositgis,•'. all the healthy portion of English society has on ..,1 shown its sympathy with the Irish people. an d tr',o " But, I repeat, power is in other hands , „" - g rien there is no prospect of relief or redress of In 1 1 10 :0 or for the restoration of the Irish Parliamet, • i ll , i i ' sure you that I meet many Englishmen wil,°, ll .i o . 01 1 i e may call the PRECURSOR state, declaring positive will assist in `the Repeal' if the present Gt,j; ..) severe in its present impolicy with regard to Ire .. iir io gl i ' o , such perseverance is - eertain, I reckon upon f or ,ie.. English assistance, even before this session ts '' eating repeal. e istri° " I am sorry to see by the p a pers that s.oti t utsr e , countenance the calumnies of our enemies, by ow 0.0, j intention to abandon the repeal agitation—th a be 0 0 7 should say so, is quite natural, because it may 0 ,. 02 of creating jealousy and suspicion in oar r an i, or 41 ; honest Repealers should entertain suck a notio n ? posterous. 'What has the Parliament done f" 41 : $ll What does the Government intend to do for 1157 0 Why, then, should there be any relaxation? - _ A 0 pathy induces us to be more moderate in tones:, in langage; but it leaves untouched and ulLd. imi rol s 7 inevitable necessity of the restoration of the ID' . 0 0 for any redress of Irish grievances. nee leil t o " Away then with the idle fear of any posSP ° 2 lv. it, less the abandonment of the repeal agitation. 1;04 0 i to my mind, perfectly manifest that the invit e of all that has lately occurred, is to promote the tainment of the repeal. " I repeat, we want two things in Ireland 4 and quiet among the people--perfect, calm, c y ° ,°.;jsb re off i severance in looking for the repeal. The ." .- 1 . i f ment has shot its bolt ; it has exhausted its on / o bit e military power. Military power is truly Orf e rertnil / sisted, but utterly futile in the case of a P e ;i i tsi* resistance. Even in actual military affairs when tisjetA better protection than a granite rock ; but . 0 01 . 0 resistance whatsoever is given or intended , s° li k. as futile . as it is expensive_ and unconstitutione 0.. never continue to be for any length of time al . 4 ° 41 - 0,1 1 ment of Government. " We will therefore persevere in quiet and... 61 %0 tion. The intelligence of England apri.. s 7o .1 . gl_ we are under of seeking for the repeal Le u t ,„"ti o ' continuance of the sympathy of that people ; . .,;„z . and conciliatory modes of perseve r ance, in see',:7o•- I believe not to be remote—the restoration o f, .., , Legislature. Hurrah for the repeal I ro , "Believe me to be faithfully ✓ s'Acei: o- " DANIEL G 0 1 ' LLOYD'SISHIPPA' Tv ,. LONDON, MARCH 7.—Wind, fresh northerly weather. DEAL, 31.1itcn 6.—Wind N.W. to N., medertnite''orV, Kemp, China; Albatross, Forbes, Mauritius; .17iidgi o ,V 40 / Bombay. gd. Surge, China ; Thomas Blytb. " - t6 01 1 ; 1 0. and James Holmes, Barbadoes ; Ann Hall, Charlotoi lock, St. John's, New Brunswick ; Duncan, do. ; „ Air 0 0 does; Brilliant, Newport and Vera Cruz. ,00 0 `.tiiif FaLmouru, MARCH 6.—Wind E.N.E., strong 1 " - A „Tel:/ finnan, Bombay. The whole of the outward bona weigh. . • weigh. sin IS t" CowEs, MAUcU 6.—The Concordia, from Surlllmo . 10 ? which put in here on the 26th ult. leaky, is dbcn - ! 0 1 LIVERPOOL, FEB. 6.—Wind N.E., moderate.--"' ga 2,574 Augree Peguina, sailed Jan. 13th, St. Helen!' l Cubbon, 31aranham, sailed Jan. 30. Sid. Her oll l7,: Rio ; Jane Ross and Malabar, New Orleans ; of the West, New York; Amazo n , B o ston. -A"' ; ip% Ayres; Molson, .3110 14 70a J WELLS, MARCH s.—The Two Friends, of CIO' , , d s been got off with little damage, re-shipped he r— beeg r teed. The Sisters, ashore near Buncham, ... I trifling damage, after discharging her cargo. MARKET NEWS.—{YES HAymazus-uirg• n y 1 0$ /° l l TO; SatrrunELD.—Coarse Meadow Hay, b; dittor44) , In! ditto, 31 3s to 31 lOs ; fine Upland 11 3l 16s; Clover Hay, 3/ to 5/; Oat Strad. Wheat Straw, 1/ 8s to 1/ lOs per los :101 0 ;1 14 limited, and trade very dull. 3/ to $/ CUMBERLAND.—Coarse Meadow hay, ditto, 31 12s to 3/ 15s ; fine Upland ditw,',ll l ,o Clover Hay, 315 s to 4l 15s ; Oat Straw,.l/ 7 else PP ,4 Straw, 1/ lOs to 11 12s per load. A 111°. '" a steady demand. Tay 2 1 , 0. • 1 1 1 0 WHITECHAFEL.—Coarse Meadow 1 01 1 useful ditto, 31 3s to 31 lOs ; fine IIplan:„,..11• 6 P 3/ 16s ; Clover Hay, 313 s to 515 s ; Oat Str',l(o/ , Wheat Straw, 1/8s to 1/ lOs per load. 1 1 °t' moved oil slowly, at the above quotations. MEAT MAREET lli o defor. o gr a SOL'TIIALL, MARCH 6.—We had only. a t t fn api e et,,r fat stock on offer to-day. The demand was'tti'",;.,; 01 1 , at, in some instances, ad vance d. quotati on soe 4 2s 8d to 4s; Mutton, 2s 8d to 4s 6d; V eal ' o ffA /1 : 10 and Pork, 2s 8d to 4s pe r Blb s , to sink the 50 . , Beasts, 40; Sheep, 1,000; Calves, 60; F i g * 'lel of the supply found buyers. p 0 4 RuMFORD, MARCH 6.—Beasts and syrgorir an advance of 2d per Sibs. Other kinds o f gterl altered in value. Beef, from 25 8d to 4542609 to 4s 6d ; Veal, 38 4d to 4s 6d ; and Por k ,: u attel o o ll per 81bs. Suckling Calves, 18s - to 2 6 p h ; Pigs,. 16s to 20s ; and Mikh Cows wit— -'' . 41 4 A 161 to 181 lOs each. HAI/911AX, Diana' B.—We had but an i d 102 1 .7, 7 fat stock on sale to day, while the derostr o 40 somewhat improved rates :—Beef, from 5t,,*4,2 1 `.... , ,,Ar i 3s to 4s 8d ; Veal, 3s. 8d to 4s 8d ; and -t "" 'oe j j j oi per Sibs. d shell; ARUNDEL, MARCH s.—P r i m e Beasts an roled at full prices, but other w i se the trade sal Beef, from 3s to 4s 2d; .Mutton, 3s 6d to 4s to 4s 6d ; and Pork, 38 to 3s 6d per 811 tr 4 0 100 CHICHESTER, MARCH 6.—There was ra". whiled 0 !1; of stock brought forward thi s mornioi:d, fr ° 4• 9 l o p was steady on the following terms 6d 02. ' 4s 2d; Mutton, 3s 4d t o 4 s 8d ; -Veal, i'e a preS,. Cor Pork, 2s 8d to 3s 4d per 81bs. Suckling d ' Quarter-old Store Pigs, 16s to 20s ; their small Calf, 161 to 18110 s. each. CORN AV E RA- 7 30 ,111 pee GENERAL AVERAGE PRICES OF For the Week ended; Mai eh 2, 1841. !wade, T i los° ~10, the Inspectors in the different Cities an d Wales. per Imperial Quarter. , ;.0 Wheat 56i 2d. I Oats . 20s. 9.1.1 root.' i f v", Barley ..... 33.. SM. Rye ......... '7 Ot i gi 11$ AVERAGES OF 'MI LAST 01. : 1 :, I>/: 5 Weeks ending; 'Jamul/ °ATP. 0 I 4 !a l Jan. 27 ... 52 3•33 8 19 9 f p ,P 1 Feb. 3 ......... 52 6 33 2 19 0 ;,•',Z 1 10 52 7 33 1 19 I l' 17 53 31 419 6 3 . 0 1 10 1 0 0 24 March 2 56 2 33 9 20 0 itte IMPZRIAL •CIORROATE AVICJI , A Ogi ? . r, Wheat.....".. 545. Sd. Oats ....... 19$ #l. I Fla Wh ri e l a j t . 19 . 1. DUTIZS OW I'OSSISS 10 0 ti 5 0d a I 1 Rye ....... .. 33;• Oats ......... roilfi a., reho Barley 51. . 91 * 51 0 tbe 1 6 r h V FOLKESTONE.—The opening - lid a t caused a great influx of visitors to Folkkeiod Wolf said that this is the only place in benefited by a railway passing it, and hel l " th - e te .. ,`"i that the permanent benefit arising te if spP 0 ginning to be felt, and is not as yet he„piti fir :U :O O4Z the extraordinary rise in the value of P A r° - rots ! - 1 07 the railway, and the increase of PePn i a bich_:oolo/ demonstrated by the eagerness wit' sts" Ds, - oe the shape of a house is sought. Bute hre w ei, 01 .4 . 10 1 : 0;00 , six houses were unoccupied, and th new ff1i!1. 3 , 1 best and most prominent establishments 7 3st pf t or 0 1 1 0 0 now the houses are all occupied, sa,d ra . e dia i rl're nently so, and rents have risen 51oulsYt " 1 841. 0 40 1 - 71 in a treble ratio with what was Paid el, Folkestone, which was at a very low e„" A increased wonderfully. —Canterbury tlA t pe . ,eThrl o : 4 THE STEAM NAVY.—We re L a , ° gt.l',; 7, ori Steamer has just been laid down at Pe: l otei Scourge." Really, the " Christian" nen . "'" P I ecill s I The 0 0 VO) are worthy of an enlightened affe• . 0 the r fernal," " the stya," " the .Acheron,' " the Scourge," form as cheerful a colleet w- ert , thi 0 10 4 ' for. We can only suggest, as an imPr° l - e u /n an ged /./ % eV White uniform of the Steam Niay be c" . hree s oij up with Brimstone —Punch. 11 1 The.s!ii ° The Lord Mayor and Alderrn en d- ;ate te e ri4cri for twenty'more children to be aduaitte_d 0 0,„ longing to Emanuel Hospital. The aq o be po re - f o" . their pensions increased to 241. Yea r s well $ ' stead of quarterly; and ten more Pe n etail'oslil l on the foundation. A s t - 4 , A most atrocious murder Ic3s .lt o Y, 4 4'lle i day night last, near Gore's -bridge. that bro Kelly, an industrious farmer, sold ea icillcee v r tje t y l fair of Bennett's-bridge, in the c ountY, oo , 6 e o i l return home he_ was waylaid, nea n r . :; 4. ,. ( 0 0 40 1 , a difi murdered, and robbed.—Carlow Se is n i ; ; be r o e r We regret to learn that 1 :7 7 chat r ev aDnutkiceipoafteedamhebriwdigiei beis esoonfiftt)irecslWyoofinvbi severe attack of the gout in the o an'e.co . 4 4 ___,.......... 13- it . 1 O4 BIRTHS. ~ ~,id , , 0 On the 23d ult., at Nice, the lady ca P' / ' - 0( of a son. a i iidi On the Ist inst., at Benton' Suffolk, t h OA Leheup Cocksedge, Esq., of a daughter. , oti viliW t . ', On the 4th inV., in Abingdonstreet, IT B_ e inloonnisi wnt the I ce ' k i 4 d t : P i n r s a t t . t , , o E af t : usioi t o n f o a n , s oxe s t i l t ! ci l y b o o r i f iv S, hsq., of a dauElitAm of On the sth inst., Mrs. Jones SpYer, 695 square, • A j i f lot C yo u ngest borne,O initetlsse First 2d Lieutenant daughterii ea n ut e t t et:e7 , ::: a 3m t itp N • S a i t tn o: h n tßeei,lhrilisuliceio:ygaf: in r Fe . : . 11- t ‘74 1c 1 C : 04( • v 0 D/E 1) . , ore , 413 0/ On the 2d in ' St. James Pail . 014 a t., in . wAter /ill's° il,l On the 4th inst , in the Strand , ; 1 •. , , ,, )0 ea 7 ' 'o ° o l sonof Itichard Twining, jun., Esq. , 9 - ~,,9 11,- '""`"! - - - - --- li lOW 'oll' London : Printed and Published 11 ~..119!, ZT. 0 112 Strand, at The Sun Office , f_ v o ;t r. Algol ' C'Quati,of piiddhoz, Frid 4 Y l --