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EVE VING P.DITION. The Reports of tlqe Exchequer Bills (1300,0000 Bill, the Purchaser's Protection Bill, and the Seditious Societies A.t A,nendinent Bill were brought up. The airbam Court cf Pleas B;11 was read a third time and pas,,cd. Capt. PECHELL moved for a return of the number of prisoners in tile cal2nflar for trial at the last Ester Quarter in counties an/ towns in Engl Ind and Wales, who were committed for trial previously to holding the last Assizes for each count). Also, a return from each county of priponers committed for trial at Sessions, but who were tried or discharged by the Judge of gaol delivery at tha Spring Assizes, for want of prosecution.—Ordered. Captain PEC HE L L moved for a return of the names, of the mates in her Majesty's Navy on the lst day of January, 1839, the d:te of their examination for Lieute nant, and the ship in which .hey are serving (in continua tion of the return ordered the 27th day of December 1837). Ordered. Mr. EWART then rose to move for leave to bring in a Bill to render the registration of elector; final, hut an Hon. Member having moved that the House be counted, and there not being forty Members present, the House ad• journed at Half past Twelve. rrHE MODEL OF THE BATTLE OF . WATERLOO is NOW EIHIBITED at the EGYP- TIAN HALL, PICCADILLY, by brilliant Artificial Light. Constantly illuminated from Four o'clock in the Afternoon and throughout the Day in Dark or unfavourable Weather. Open from Ten in the Morning until Nine '•n the Evening, without intermission. Admission One Shilling each. MR. JAMES'S NEW NOVEL. On Saturday, May 11, in 3 vols. post Bvo. /Jr HE GENTLEMAN OF THE OLD SCHOOL__ By G. P. R. JAMES, Esq. Author of " The Gipsy," " The Robber," " The Huguenot,' " Mary of Burgundy," " Life of Edward the Black Plinee,' " One in a Thousand,"" Life and Adventures of John Mars• ton Hall," &c. &c. &c. London : Longman, Orme, and Co. VEGETABLES—CULTIVATION AND COOKERY. 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The Committee were again occupied all the morning with the vote of Moorhead, whic has now taken nearly three days, though simply a question of loss of qualification, through occa sional change of residence. . . At half-past one the Committee decided that the vote vas a bad one. Mr. Bruin having had only a majority of three, this decision reduced it to two. The Committee then adjourned till Eleven o'Clock on Monday. CITY AND COMMERCIAL NEWS, CITY7WELVE O'CL O CK. Arrivals this morning ;—French mail, ship letters fro m Teneriff, Bombay, and Batavia. LIVERPOOL COTTON MARKET, FRIDAY.—The transac tions continue to be upon a moderate scale, dependent en tirely upon the absolute necessity of the consumer, who is yet, from the depressed state of trade, and the consequent decreased production of yarn, compelled. to buy as sparingly as possible; nevertheless our market, under these circum stances, is comparatively firm for American descriptions, and has not yielded further in price worth notice. The Egyptian low sales continue to be made, and Brazils are rather easier. The public sale of India to-day was a com plete failure—out of 3,774 bales of Surat and 276 bales of Bengal offered, only 65 bales found buyers at sicl. to 61, being a reduction of id. per lb. on previous rates for Surat. Spedulators have taken 500 bales of American, and 120 Egyptian, and exporters 750 bales. The sales to-day are 2,000 bags of all kinds. _ - In the course of yesterday afternoon a considerable sale of 31 per Cents. took place, supposed about 200,0091., which had the effect to damp the market. Money was also in demand at the Stock Exchange. . The Britiih Funds closed rather heavy—Consols at 931 4 ; Money Account 931 buyers, and opened this morning at the above prices. Exchequer Bills 42 44; India Bonds 45 47 ; Bank Stock 196 k 1971 ; India Stock 255} 256 k; Spanish Active, as they closed, 194 20k ;;Portuguese same 36i 37; Three per Cents. 224 4 ; Belgian 1014 1, ex. div: ; Bra. zilian, 781 ; Colombian, 311 Mexican, 251 ; Dutch Two-and-a- Half periCelits. 561-; Five per Cents. 1024 PRICES OF SHARES THIS IJAY ATONE O'CLOCK. - Paid. Per haie. Bristol and Exeter Railway Company 25 10 , 2 Bilghton Etailwair Loudon and Illackwall Railway North Midland Railway C0rnpany............. .. . HALF-PAST WYE. Four thousand quarters of wheat lately imported has paid the duty the day before yesterday, bringing to the revenue about two thousand pounds. Consols may be quoted at the morning prices, Money, 93 ; Account, 931 s; Exchequer Bills, lower, 43 411: India Bonds, 44 ; Bank Stock. 197 ; nothing done in India Stock. In the Foreign Market very little done ; Spanish Active, rather lower, 191 ; Portuguese, 361; 3 per Cads. nothing done ; Colombian, 291 ; Dutch Two and a Half per Cent., 56. CLOSING PRICES. BRITISH FUNDS Bank Stock ... ........ ........... 197 I India Stack 44 3perCJit.ltei 3 rer Cent. Ccas. 93% Ditto Old Annuities 3% per Cent. Red 99% Ditto Sew Annuities New 3% per Cent 101 Ex. Bills, 1,000 /....... 2d 41 pm. Ncw 5 per Cent. Ditto 50 , '1 4! pm Long Annuities to expire Ditto 5001 41 pm Jan. 1860 Oct. 1859 Jan. 1860 FOREIGN FUNDS. Asturian, 5 per cent lPortuguese Bonds, sper cent. Belgian, 5 per cent lDitto, New Ditto Brazilian Bonds Prussian, 5 per cent Buenos Ayr. s, 6 per cent.... Russian Bonds, 5 per cent ..: Chilian, 6 per cent Ditto, Metallic Colomb.an, 6 per cent........,. :29% Spanish, 5 per cent. 2O Ditto, P 124 3l y.,, Ditto, Consolidated Danish, 3 per cent ... 1 - 5 French, 5 per cent. —f. —c. Greek Bonds, 1825, 5 per ct. Exchange —f —c Mexican, sper cent French, 3 per cent —f. —( Ditto, 6 per cent, 1825 0 54 Dutch, 2% per cent. 56 Peruvian, 1825,6 per cent.... 18).. Ditto, 5 per cent. 102)4 SHARES 3ristol and Exeter Railway Great Western Railway London and Brighton Railway . 9% London and Blackwall Railway London and Birmingham Railway l6l Ditto Quirter Shares 30% London and Croydon Railway (Trun, ) North Midland Railway York and North Midland Railway lB3i ROLL'S COURT-(THIS DAY.) . the system of representation, and censures the 'wo alterations which were made in the progress of .he Bill—admitting the 501. tenants-at-will, and i , re !, tainin the freemen—" as changes for the wo rse. He subsequently quotes what Earl GREY and Lord ALTHORP said in the progress of the measure relative to this "being a permanent settle ment of a I great constitutional question," and denies that final measures or finality is any term of theirs. He adds — If after these declarations any member of Lord Grey's Cabinet were to propose to begin the whole question anew, the obvious remark would he, " You have either so egre giously deceived us that we cannot trust to your public en gagements, or you have so blindly deceived yourself that we cannot believe in the solidity of your new scheme." The question remains—ls it necessary for the good of the people to begin anew the task of reforming the representation of the people ? The only proof that has yet been given of such necessity is the loudness of complaint. But let us mark from whom this complaint proceeds, how it arises, and to what it tends. Lord JOHN RUSSELL then traces it to "those who never were satisfied with the Reform Act," "to those who expected it to annihilate the Tory party, too deeply rooted in the property of the country," and " the Government for sixty years stocked with its friends ;" "to those who expect more from Reform than Reform can accomplish," and " that many are influenced by the present state of parties in the House of Com mons." He denies, and we think with good reason, that an enthusiasm could be excited equal to that which carried the Reform Act, and adds " that could it be awakened I am not ready to stir the cauldron from which so potent a charm could be extracted." One part of the objections arises from those who " look to a new scheme of representation for other purposes than those of good government." Then, referring to the plans of the Chartists, and to their probable effect in kindling disorder and insecurity, making the condition of the labouring classes worse even than at present, he thus defines a Conservative : It is said that upon these subjects the Ministry are in accordance with the Tories, and that the doctrines of Sir R. Peel can hardly be that in which a Reformer ought to agree. Surely resistance must commence somewhere, and whenever it does commence, those who call themselves Conservatives must vote with the party of resistance. Lord JOHN briefly combats the Ballot, House hold Suffrage, and Triennial Parliaments ; and to prove that the Reform Act has not been barren, quotes the several useful Acts which have been passed since it came into existence. He denies that " it has justified the forebodings of those who represented it as fatal to peace, or confirms the in vectives of those who regard it as a total failure." All our quotations are written in a strong Con servative spirit, and we should not do the Noble Lord justice were we to omit all which he ad vances in favour of some reforms. He says— There are doubtless many defects in the Reform Act which require to be remedied. The 101. franchise is too much fettered by regulation ; the annual registration is made a source of vexation and expense ; the freemen might be made the pride of the working classes instead of their opprobrium, but changes such as these, &c. The Noble Lord adverts to the Lords as having latterly-made their evil influence felt in an aggra vated shape. The Duke of WELLINGTON he describes as now having a harder task to perform than when he was in the vigour of his age ; and what the Noble Lord says, on the management of the Peers, we must also transcribe, as the only other passage in the pamphlet tending to reform : With these dispositions the superiority of the Lords in all matters of Government may one day be asserted, or England may no longer bear the double sway of government in one House and opposition in the 0 other. Who are in that case to give the victory ? Evidently the people of ‘ the United Kingdom. The House of Commons must carry their measures by popular sup port or be dissolved, and give place to an assembly more congenial to the Lords. In this state ;of affairs it has been my wish that the Commons should ask not only for what was right in itself, but what the people would feel to be right. For instance, could we have con tended longer for the Appropriation Clause ? With a small majority in the Commons with us, the people of England were not favourable, and the people of Ireland bad grown indifferent."—" But when certain measures of temperate amendment in our laws have the assent of the Commons; and of the country, it is quite just that the proposers and advocates of such measures should be called upon to gain the assent of Parliament to them. Otherwise men will be driven in despair to become partizans of more extensive changes, which, while they will be more popular, will not be at all more impracticable. Such is the danger of the course now pursued by the Lords, and such the prospects before them. If they cannot be per suaded to adopt even such amendments of the Refoim Act, as to give a little further time to the rate payer for the payment of the rates ; if they can not assent to any correction of the abuses of re gistration, and the defects of registration courts ; if they cannot agree to give to Ireland the same municipal privileges as England, they will force many of those who have supported the Government in such places to say that what has appeared to the Lords too much is in their eyes too little. This is a temper which I should be sorry to see prevail. It is to correct such a temper, we presume, that the Ministers have lately added to the House of Peers. We will copy the Noble Lord's conclusion, and leave the pamphlet at present to the judgment of our readers : It is for you to ponder seriously, in the spirit of that true Whiggism which has always animated you, on the dangers of the time, and the means by which they may be averted. lam persuaded you will not think of lifting the anchors of the Monarchy. while the signs of a storm are black in the horizon. lam convinced that you will not, hr a moment of disappointment, deface the work which you have made. Great changes in law and government often make themselves more felt, as the distance of time at which they were established becomes more remote. Who can doubt that the subjects of George 111. enjoyed more fully the benefits of the Habeas Corpus Act than' our ancestors did seven years after its enactment? 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The Pnblic is respectfully informed, that the PRESENT MANAGEMENT WILL TERMINATE WITH THIS SEASON ; The following Programme is therefore given of its final ar rangements : The Standard Plays, as brought out at this Theatre, will each be performed once more, viz. : CORIOLANUS, lON, THE TWO FOSCARI, WERNER, and VIRGINIUS. THIS EVENING, MAY 4, 'Pill be performed the New Grand Opera. called HENRIQUE, OR THE LOVE PILGRIM. The Overture aid Music composed by W. M. Rooke. Henriques, Mr. W. Harrison (his first appearance) ; Don Carlos del Aleala, Mr. Leffler ; Alvaro de Luna, Mr. H. Phil lips ; Diego Goto, Mr. Harley ; Alzine, Miss Rainforth ; Atria. bel de Valencia, Miss P. Horton. After übioh, the New. Dramatic Romance, called__ AGNIS BERNAUER, TFIE Al AID OF AUGSBURG. On Monday, Coriolanus, with No Song No Supper, and Sayings and. Doings. - - " , vP • • 'Mt\ 7IT c. - - , ),1t. 41,* LONDON : SATURDAY, MAY 4, 1839, Lord JoRN RUSSELL'S long expected Letter to the Electors of Stroud, on the principles of the Reform Act has at length appeared. It is undoubt edly an able and an honest pamphlet, but not calcu lated to gain for the Noble Lord the confidence of the Movement party. We shall, however, ab stain on the present occasion from criticism, and allow the Noble Lord, as far as the limit of an ar ticle will go, to speak for himself. He thus states his principal reason for addressing the electors, and we quote the paragraph to show the scope and in tention of his pamphlet : The public mind is shaken by disputes, and urged on by declamation, relating to the Reform Act- From that Act your electoral privileges are derived. Upon that Act the present Constitution of the House of Commons is based. To that Act, seven years ago, the general and willing consent of the country was given. Before it is re pealed, and especially before it is exchanged for a scheme hitherto indefinite and unexplained, it seems to me desir able that some one connected with the introduc tion of that plan of Reform, and who still adheres to its principles, should place the whole matter before those who will have ultimately to decide upon the important question whether it is to be set aside as an experiment, which has totally failed, and a new scheme of representation set up in its place ; or whether we may not found upon the Reform Act, the amendments and improvements which all institutions from time to time re quire? • Her MAJESTY yesterday sent a Message to Loth Houses of Parliament, recommending the considera tion of measures to promote the union of Upper and Lower Canada. Her MAJESTY'S Message is to be taken into consideration in the Lords on Uonclay. The Bishop of LONDON, who seems to be the em bodyment of pries' craft, seeing the President of the Council in his place, took the opportunity to make a hot attack on the Ministerial plan for improving education, which he described as containing all the vices of the Irish system without its justification. It would lead to indifference, to the wildest latitudinarian ism, and to all other "isms" but Church of Englandism, a great recommendation to rational men, for a more mischievous-ism than that of the Church now scarcely exists. If it were admitted that the Dissenters should receive a national education without being drilled by Priests, the Church might at once, according to the Bishops, give up her functions. The sooner the better. What a horror have the Bishops of toleration and of justice 1 The Mardis of LANsnowNE showed that the Bishop had exhibited the cloven foot before his intended victim was within his grasp, for the school to be established by the Council was not for the education of children, but of schoolmasters. The intolerance and in justice of the Bishop roused the virtuous indignation of Lord BROUGHAM, who told the Bishop that if the Church persisted in a claim to con troul education, the people would not submit, and he would lead them in their resistance. Bravo, Lord BROUGHAM the Church requires to be opposed, to be sturdily resisted. Priestcraft has attained a rampant ascendancy amongst us, must be now beaten down, or it will destroy for ever the morality and happiness of the community. There was a little attempt on the part of the Prelate, on finding that his zeal had gone too far to hedge out, and to disclaim the plan of making Die centers pay for an education to be exclusively enjoyed by Churchmen, but it was made palpable that the Priests of the Anglican Church are decidedly opposed to every species of education, and to the progress of all knowledge which they cannot controul. We have come to a low stage of degradation when the commu nity must learn nothing but what our own paid and hireling Priests sanction. The Commons had some discussion about private businiss, which seems to trouble them as much as their Election Committees, and received some petitions, before the Jamaica Bill came on, which occupied the House the whole evening. The same Message also from the QUEEN, relative to Canada, was sent to the Commons as to the Lords. Against the Jamaica Bill Mr. T. DUNCOMBE pre sented a petition, and announced that he should oppose it. On the motion for going into a Committee on the Bill, Sir ROBERT PEEL opposed it. He ex pressed his regret that he was obliged to take such a course, which he had hoped might have been obviated by concession. We must, however, reserve our notice of the Right Hon. Baronet's speech for a future day. Mr. LABOUCHERE supported the Bill, in a long and able speech. Mr. GODSON took the side of the planters ; Mr. EWART cordially supported theßill ; but the side taken by Mr. C. BULLER, was as Mr. HUME, who followed him, said left doubtful. Mr. HUME himself declared that he could not agree to so unconstitutional a measure. Sir GEORGE GREY made a very long and a very able speech, and exposed, in a superior manner the partizan spirit and fallacies of Sir R. PEEL. When Sir GEORGE sat down, the debate was adjourned till Monday. I haie put the question thus, because on the one side the present Ministry and their friends have never pre tended that amendments of the details of the Reform Act might not from time to time be required ; and on the other it is obvious that nothing but a total failure of the endea vour then made to substitute representation far nomina :ion, would either persuade or justify the people of Eng land in commencing a new struggle for the sake of a change of so extensive a naturo as those that have been of late proposed to. us. The Noble Lord, after asking his constituents " whether it will promote prosperity and the stability of those institutions to which the great majority of us still. cling," to commence " a new agitation for the sake of some new kind of repreSentation," points out an obvious distinction between important and unimportant acts, and infers that having recently gone through all the cli,comfort of' repairing our representative system we cannot again undertake the task, though a more beautiful plan be now known to 'us, without exposing ourselves to more discomfort than the alteration is worth. Admitting some imperfections in the Roman Catholic Relief Aet, nobody, he says, " proposes to repeal or make considerable alterations in it.' So nobody proposes to "pull down Buckingham Palace, or rebuild Regent street, though _ many an architect is ready to show how we might improve the comfort and increase the beauty both of palace and street." We shall not copy what his Lordship says against dividing the empire into departments, allowing each to send one Member, though some curious facts are stated in it ; and though we find his Lordship re produces the argument which the Tories urged in favour of the rotten boroughs, namely, that they let men into Parliament of great ability, but destitute of popular talents, or of opportunities to cultivate popular approbation,—but content ourselves with stating his conclusion, which is, that the House of Commons, though composed of able and stir ring men, would not obtain the respect of the more. intelligent part of. the community. The following exract carries out these views : The House of Lords has greater permanence than the Commons, and it attracts within its sphere many of the ablest men in the nation [many of whom the Noble Lord enumerates. He then observes that both would be judged by their actual works, and adds] The Commons would have to contend in the presence and perhaps in rivalry with the House of Lords—which, according to Mr. Roebuck (no partial witness) has a moral influence on the country ; YOU would expose the House of Commons to a gradual recess of sinking, fr o m which it could only rescue itself ysme desperate struggles, in the course of which its na . rural stren g Al th and vigour might more easily enable it to pull aPr wate r its more favoured companion than 'to keep its elf buoyant on the stream For these reasons Thursday's Moniteur has reached us with the other amon f i oth ers ad • • 1 Tablet to the greatestv di v i s i on i ssib nle objection . toeartments se emed to me Paris Journals of the same date, but without the ap pearance, in its official colu mns , o f the Ministry, pro- Lord JOHN states at considerable length the raised by the Const4utionnel of the previous day. alterations which the Reform Act actually made in The anniversary of the King, Louis Philippa 's birth- day was celebrated on Wednesday with more than the usual manifestations of public joy. Addresses from the diplomatic body, the Chambers; the Law Courts, and the Municipality of Bilis were presented to his Majesty, to each of which a gracious answer was returned. The KING received :the deputations in the Throne-room, surrounded by the members of the Royal Family, and all the great officers of State. -In a political point of view, the only addresses worthy of notice are those of the Chambers, in which we find a direct reference to the present Ministerial crisis. What is most remarka ble in the address from the Peers is, that the indivi duality of the KING is regarded as below the notice of their Lordships, and that their object -is to do honour to a principle, not to commemorate the birth of a Sove reign. In employing such language as the following, the Peers of Francehave done honour to themselves as a branch of the Representative Government : " Believe, sire, that the Chamber of Peers was never more eager to bring to your Majesty this tribute of its homage and good wishes, a,nd may you consider them as the expression of those sentiments of veneration, gratitude, and love, with which the hearts of all Frenchmen ought to be penetrated towards that grand institution of a consti tutional monarchy of which you are the living representa tive; which alone, sheltered from the vicissitudes which all the other branches of power cannot escape, remains fixed on immoveable bases, appealing to the country on all occasions on which it ought to be heard, appreciating its real wants and desires, being above all change, continuing ever the same—because in it resides pre.emiuently the element of that stability which forms a security for the present and a guarantee for the future." The Address of the Chamber of Deputies presented by its President, M. MASSY, is much more complimen tary. The following is the paragraph in which reference is made to the Ministerial crisis : " Sire—The Chamber of Deputies, at the sight of those political embarrassments, the termination of which it .so ardently desires, comprehends and participates in all your anxiety. Recently elected by the country, it is its faithful image. You will find it full of respect and devotion to your person, no less anxious to maintain the prerogatives of the Crown than jealous of the exercise of its own privi leges, and ready to support every administration which shall loyally fulfil that mission of order, peace, and conci liation, which is demanded by the wants of the times and the generous spirit of those institutions on which rest the dignity of your throne, and the true grandeur of the nation." The quiet intimation which the Deputies give of the folly of another dissolution, by stating that the present Chamber is the faithful image of France, will be under stood and appreciated. Sensible that a Royal explana tion was in fact demanded under this courtly act of homage, the KING in his answer did not evade the ques tion. His MAJESTY said : " In answer to the wishes expressed by your President, I will say that, deploring as he does the momentary embarrassments to which we are subjected, I have not omitted, nor will I omit, anything which may hasten its termination ; for I, more than any one else, am desirous that France should possess an administration in accordance with her wishes, with your expectations, and the wants of the age. The constant object of all my efforts has been to maintain a perfect union between all the Powers of the State. It is in this union alone that can be found that strength which is necessary to enable the public func tionaries, and all those who are invested with authority, to fulfil the duties they are called upon to perform ; it is from this union alone that we can derive that moral force which, by guaranteeing the stability of our institutions, inspires the nation with confidence in the future, the first pledge of its repose, its happiness, and the maintenance of its liberties. You have ever found me ready to defend them, and I take pleasure in acknowledging that I have always found you equally ready to uphold the constitu tional prerogatives of the different powers of the State. I thank you for • the good wishes you have expressed through your President. For myself, my efforts shall be ii:sremitted, my personal abnegation shall be complete, to obtain the faithful accomplishment of the high mis sion which has been entrusted to me by the nation ; and I shall be happy in owing this accomplishment to that loyal concurrence which I demand of you, and which you will grant." M. TRIERS was the only Deputy of any note absent from the Palace on Wednesday. This was a great disappointment to his friends, who were unable to conjecture the cause of an act which must have stung the Court. The following telegraphic despatch was received by the French Government : " BAYONNE, MAY 1, HALF-PAST TEN, £.M.—On the 27th Espartero attacked and took the position of El Moro, in front of Ramales ; the two armies were in pre sence 'of each other upon the banks of the Querenza. Es partero had about 30,000 men, and Maroto 15,000." This includes the whole of the ,news from the French Capital. Of its importance a few days will enable us to judge correctly. BOURSE, PARIS, THURSDAY, MAY 2. HALP-PAST THRER.—Settling day in the French Funds for the April account. There being no new Ministry, the same disposition has prevailed on the part of the speculators as on Tuesday (yester day being a holiday); much business has been transacted. The Three per Cents, opened at 81f. 40c., rose to Sif. 75c., and closed rt 81f. 65c., a rise of 25 cents. The Five per Cents. 'from 110 E 95c., advanced to 111 f. 30c., and closed at 111 E 25c., a rise of 30c. For Money the Three per Cents, are 45c., and, the Five per Cents. 30c. better. For the end of May the Three per Cents., from 81f. 70c , advanced to 81f. 85c., and closed at 81f. 80c. The Five per Cents. from 110 f. 20c., reached 111 f. 50c., and receded to 111 f. 40c. last price. The Bank of France Shares are 15f. higher. The Belgian Three per Cents. for the April Account (settling to-morrow for the foreign stocks), are 73f. 20e. ; for the end of April, 73f. 4Se. The Spanish Active is as on Tuesday, 201,, and very little business done therein. The Belgian Bank Shares are 15f, higher. The Railway Shares maintain their position, and some have [nightly ad vanced. The Versailles Right Bank 5f.; the Versailles Left Bank 2f. 50c. The Strasburg to Basle, 2f. 50c. The Mulhausen to Thann, SE, and the Havre 51. 'The St. Germain, not quoted for money, are, for the Account, 7021. 50c. IN RE RUGBY SCHGOL — . JUDGMENT. The MASTER of the ROLLS, this morning, gave judgment in this important case, which was argued in January last. The petition was presented by Mr. Wrattislaw and Gibb, praying that it might be declared, the several alterations made in the management of the school had been improperly mode, and ought to be corrected; that the second and thin: forms might be restored; that the exhibitions might be confined to the foundationers or free boy's; and that the benefits of the school might be extended to all the inhabitants of the neigh bourhood of whatever duration their residence might have been. The Charity was founded in the year 1367, when Mr. Lau rence Sheriff conveyed certain hereditaments to trustees in trust after his death, to build a convenient school house and four lodging-houses for four poor men ; and should " cause an honest, discreet, and learned man, being a Master of Arts, to be retained to teach the free grammar school, to serve chiefly for the children in Rugby and Brownsover, and next for such as should be in other places thereunto adjoining." That the Master should have the mansion house without paying for it, and should have a yearly salary of 121. Mr. Laurence Sheriff died in 1568, and the school house, as well as certain alms-houses part of the endowment was established. The regulations tor the management of the school had been considerably affected by orders of the Court, and by several Acts of Parliament, and the master was permitted to educate at the school not only.the boys who might happen to have been thefirst objects of the founder's bounty, but also other boys who came from distant places, to be educated in the Rugby 'school, and the boys edu cated at the school were permitted to receive exhibitions in aid of their subsequent education at one of the Universities. The present master of that school, Dr. Arnold, was appointed to that situation in 1827, and complaints were now made, that of late years certain regulations, preju dicial to the interests of the founder's bounty, had been in troduced. The complaints were—first, that the exhibitioners were .;hosen from among strangers and free boys equally ; se condly, that children whose parents had not been resident within the limits for two years, Were excluded ; and, thirdly, that young boys were discouraged from entering the school ; and, therefore, that boys entitled to enter at an early age, were obliged to have a prior or preparatory education, to tit them for education in the school, as now conducted. His Lordship said that the first of these complaints raised a question of very considerable importance, with respect to the powers given to the Trustees by the origi nal foundation by the Acts of Parliament, and by the orders of the Court. And also with respect to the mode of conferring the most substantial benefit on boys peculiarly entitled to the benefit of the foundation, whether it should be by placing them in a free or unprotected competition with the other boys, or: by giving them an exclusive right. It appeared that, in 1803, the income of the charity being greater than sufficient to pay the expenses of it as then con ducted, by an order of the Court it was referred to the Master to take into consideration such plan or scheme as the Trustees should be advised to lay before him for the future disposition of the accumulations. The Master hay frig reported against the scheme proposed, the Trustees pre sented a petition to the Lord Chancellor (Lord Eldon), praying that he would nevertheless permit them to carry their plan into execution. The Lord Chancellor gave them leave to do so, and it was ordered the Trustees should be at liberty to elect and send seven more boys as exhibitioners in like manner as the then exhibitioners were elected and sent. The Master having in his report set forth the evidence by which it was shown that daring 25 years only 21 exhibitioners had been elected from foundationers, and that 42 had been elected from scholars not in the founda tion, and that as by the words of Lord Eldon's order he gave leave to elect more on the same principle, it appeared to his Lordship that Lord Eldon must, on deliberation, have consi dered the exhibitions might be given to scholars not on the foundation, and being of that opinion, and not thinking there arc circumstances affecting this question now existing which did not exist when the question was brought under the consideration of Lord Eldon, his Lordship did not think that he was at liberty fo do any thing inconsistent with that order. If any alteration ought to be made in that respect it must be made by higher authority. With respect to the second complaint, that children whose pa rents had not been resident for two years within the limits were excluded. That was forwarded as a resolution of the Trustees, dated the 6th of July, 1880 ; but the effect of that resolution was not to exclude the boys referred to further than from one annual meeting of the Trustees to another. It did not affect boys who might be the children of old residents, or, after the next annual meeting of the Trustees, the boys who might be children of persons who came to reside bona fide within the limits; and supposing the resolution to be, as was stated, for the purpose of protecting the old residents, it would seem to be free from objection. lithe income of the charity was so large, and the number of free boys so small as stated to him, it was difficult to find any substantial reason for thinking such a regulation necessary for the protection of old residents ; and if it were not necessary it ought not to stand. Considering, however, that no instance of practical inconvenience or of any individual being excluded from the school under this regulation had occurred, it did not appear to him that any order was necessary, but it might be thought to be safely left to the discre tion of the Trustees. With respect to the third complaint, thatyoung boys were discouraged from entering the school, he coulct nots.help thinking on the evidence before him that that complaint had, a foundation in fact ; and if the fact were so, it was prejudicial to the interests of the free boys. It appeared that as a classical school it had greatly flourished under the mas tership of Dr. Arnold. When he was appointed master there were 136 scholars ; at Christmas last there were 278. The boys in the upper school in 1827 were 111 ; at Christmas, 1838, they were 240. In 1827 the boys in the lower school were 25 ; in 1838 they were 38—an increase, but much less in proportion than the increase of boys in the upper school. At Christmas 1831 and Midsummer 1834 the boys in the lower school were 112 ; and looking at all the evidence on the sub ject—looking at the state of the school from time to time—the declarations imputed to Dr. Arnold and Sir Grey Skipwith, and not denied—looking also at the masters from time to time employed, it did appear to his Lordship, on the whole, that it had been thought desirable to discourage the entrance of boys under twelve years of age into the school ; and he did not think such a course of proceeding could be beneficial to the objects of the Charity. The School was by the founder de signated as a " grammar school," but the boys were to be taught writing, and arithmetic in all its branches ;, that was, something more than grammar or classical learning was to be taught; and it appeared to his Lordship, that those who were qualified in other respects ought to be admitted, if they were capable of reading English, and being taught the first elements of grammar. It did not appear that any boys had been excluded for being too young ; but the expressed opinion of Dr. Arnold might of itself have been a discouragement, and though his Lordship could not attribute the state of the school in that respect to the designs supposed by Mr. Wrattislaw, and could not see the pro priety of ordering forms to be established when there were no boys to fill them, yet it did appear to him provision ought to have been made for the instruction in the school of those boys who conk' read English, and were eatable of being instructed in the first elements of grammar. That being his opinion, the regular course would be to refer it to the linter, but he hoped the trustees would adopt a regulation by which any reference on the subject might be avoided. The costs of the petition ought to be paid out of the funds of the Charity, and if the Trustees would adopt some mode by which proper encouragement would be given to the entrance of young boys.. His Lordship would be very willing to leave t to them to suggest what would be the proper course to .. _ First Highest Lowest Last Price. Price. Price. Price. French 5 per Cents *per t ents lOl 83 ... 1 I r.. 3 ... 101 85 ... 101 83 • 3 per Cents - 81 50 ... Isl 75 ... 81 50 ... 81 75 Bank of I* ranee Lattitte Ila k 1, ( '00t: S Belgian , blank 791 ... 800 ... 790 ... 800 Conlions S a , .i,h Ac ive '..0., ... 2()., ... 'A!, ... 21% Portu, nese 3 per ( en , t . Don Miguel Neapolitan Roman pursue. Mr. PEMBERTON said that perhaps it might be desirable to suspend making any.order till Michaelmas Term, because after the expression of his Lordship's opinion, in all probability there would he no difficulty. Mr. KINDEBSLEY could assure his Lordship the Trustees were very glad to heir the opinion of the Court expressed, and that they would do all in their power to conform to it in every possible way. METROPOLITAN POLITICAL SUMMARY. The Morning Chronicle of this day expresses great dis. satisfaction with Lord John Russell's letter to the electors of Stroud, observing that it will satisfy neither Tories nor Reformers, and adding that " his Lordship admits the ex istence of many defects in the Reform Bill, but he points out no way of obtaining a remedy for them ; and he objects to the Ballot, because it would lead to changes to which he is opposed." The _Morning Post observes of Lord John Russell's letter We have neither space nor time for an analysis of this elaborate and very feeble performance, of which the ' best thing that can be said, is, and this may be truly said, that it is more Conservative in its tone and principles than, we could have expected." The Morning Herald, speaking of Sir Robert Peel's speech last night in the Commons on the Jamaica question, says :—" In the comprehensiveness of its views, in its lo eloquence, i n t h e true lib era li ty o f gical power, in its manly irs spirit, that speech was worthy o f t h e brightest period in the history of Parliamentary elo quence ." The Times contains a leaching article on a tract just put forth, on the subject of the Jamaica Assembly Suspension Bill, in which our Contemporary says :—" The manifesto requires an immediate authoritative disclaimer, in common justice to the characters of those with whom it assumes to to be connected." THE MAR KETS.-(THIS DAY.) COVENT GARDEN MARKET. Supplies good, and trade brisk. Plants, 3s. 6d. and 4s. per dozen; Asparagus, Sc. to I Is. per bun dle ; Celery, is. Gd . to 2s. 6d. per bundle;' Onions, lss. .6d. per sieve ; Carrots, bs. per dozen bunches ; 13rocoli, Is. 6d. to 2A. 6d. per bundle ; Turnips, 4d. per bunch ; Oranges, ss. to 10s. per 100 ; Lemons, 6s. to Bs. per 100 ; Apples, 4s. to 10s. per bushel ; Rhubarb, 10d. to Is. per bundle; Strawberries, Is. Gd. to 2s. per ounce ; Cherries,. 245. per lb. ; Cucumbers, 45. per brace; Peas, Bs. per sieve; French Beans, 35. per 100 ; Potatoes, le. 6d. to 3s. per lb. NEWGATE AND LEADENHALL. A good supply ; trade dull, and prices drooping. Beef, 2s. Bd. to 3s. Bd. Mutton, 25. 10 d. to 3s. Bd. Veal, SS. Bd. to 45.8 d. Lamb, 6s. to 7s. Pork, 3s. Bd. to 45. Bd. Irish, 3s. to 3s. Gd. Game is small. Demand dull, and Poultry i n l arge supply. prices lower. HUNGERFORD MARKET. Supplies of Fish good. Turbot ss. to 20a. ; Cod ls. 6d. to 7s. I ; Lobsters ls. to 4s. Butchers meat not in very lively demand. Beef 7d. to Sid. ; Mutton 7d. to 82d. per lb. ; Veal Bd. to 91. ; Pork 74-d. to 81d. COAL MARKET.- 11 ay 3. Male'ss. cl.l 14 61 Bunion Main 2O 6 , Itebburn Main 2l 3 Holywellartley Main 2l 0 South H Tanfield Moor Wylap a Walls End Bea icke and Co 22 Walls End Br • Waits End Heaton 21 %; W alk End Hilda 1N ails End Northumberland 21 0 hips arrived since las s. d. Wall, End Walker 2l 0 • Walls End Belmont vval's : nd Het ion W a lls End Lyons 23 0 Walls End Clarence Tees `2l 0 W Ils End Gor don Walls End Tee , Walls End Tees Hetton Walls End Victoria Tees Walls End West Tees Blythe l6 ti Howard's Netherton Main 18 0 it market-d'iy, S. TILE REFonm BILL was c arried by an expedient less justifiable. The Private Secretary of the King wrote a letter to the Peers in opposition, r equesting their ab sence from the House of Lords while a Bill of the highest importance to the country was pas,ing through its various stages ; a precedent of the highest danger ; which nothing but the respect felt by both parties for the Sovereign could have induced them to permit.—Lord John Russell's Leiter. The Bath Herald of this m orning says, " W e can state, from authority, that the Right Rev. and Vene rable Bishop of this diocese, who has been alarmingly ill, is now out of danger." AYRSHIRE ELECTION. -The result wa s de clared l ast Wednesday i n due form by the Sheriff. The numbers are Kilburne, 1 , 758 ; Cam p bell, ,296 ; Crai g , 46. Lor d Kilb ur ne's majority is 462 ; th e gross number polled was 3,100. The entire Scotch Liberal pres s concur i n dec l ar i ng that no re - ac ti on in favour of Conservati sm h as t a ken place, and attr i bute the loss of Ayr to the absence of the Ballot, no less, than to a want of energy and decision in the Melbourne Administration to make Reform progressive. CHARTIST MEETINGS. (Frnm last Night's Gazette ) BY THE QUEEN.—A PROCL AMATION. VICTORIA, R. Whereas we have been given to understand that, in some parts of our United Kingdom, persons have of late unlaw fully assembled togelher for the purpose of training or drilling rrsons to the ust of arms, or beim/ trained or drilled, or for the purpose of practsing railitary exercise, movements, or evolutions ; and whereas such assemblings and proceedings are prohibited by law, as being dangerous to the peace and security of our liege subjects, and of our authority. And all persons guilty of such offences ate pu nishable by transportation or imprisonment : We, therefore, being duly stnsible of the mischievous consequences likely to arse from such unlawful practices, if suffered to continue unpunished, and being firmly re• solved to cause the laws to be put in execution for the punishment of such offenders, have thought fit, by the advice of our Privy Council, to issue this proclamation, hereby strictly commanding all Justices of the Peace, Sheriffs, Under- Sheriffs, and all other civil officers what soever, that they do use their utmost endeavours to dis cover, apprehend, and bring to justice the persons con-_ cernel in the unlawful proceedings above mentioned. And whereas in some parts of our United Kingdom large numbers of persons have lately assembled and met together, many of them being armed with bludgeons and other offensive weapans, and have, by their exciting to breaches of the peace, and by their riotous proceedings, caused great alarm to our subjects : And whereas such meetings are contrcry to law, and dangerous to the peace of our realm, and to the property and the lives of our subjects : We, therefore, hereby strictly command all Justices of the Peace, Sheriffs, Under-Sheriffs, and all other civil Officers whatsoever, that they use their utmost endeavours to enforce the law, and prevent, put down„• and suppress such unlawful meetings, 'and bring offenders to justice. And we strictly enjoin all our liege subjects to give prompt and effectual sssistance to our Justices of the Peace, She. riffs, Under-Sheriffs, and all civil Officers, in their endea vours to preserve the public peace. Given at our Court at Buckingham Palace this third day of May, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hun dred and thirty.nine, and in the second year of our reign. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Stir,-A paragraph having" appeared in some of the London papers, on the authority of the Dover Chronicle, that the small pox is committing great ravages in this town, I beg to state that I have caused enquiry to be made of every medical man connected with the town, and that they deny the very existence of the disease. With such authority I cannot account for the gratuitous and suicidal information of the Editors, and, in common justice to the inhabitants, request the insertion of this letter in your columns. I am, Sir, your obedient servant, EDWARD P. THOMPSON, Mayor. Dover, May 3, 1839. NATIONAL CONVENTION (YESTERDAY.) Mr. P. BUSSEY in the Chair. The SECRETARY read the correspondence of the day. There were letters from Mr. Thomas Rich, of Holt, Wiltshire ; from Forfar, Edinburgh, Cornwall, Frank well, Shrewsbury, Leamintgon, Wellingborough, Derby, Ipswich, Preston, Chichester, Brampton, and Daventry, all sending up sheets of signatures, and prayinF , the Convention, in which they had the utmost confidence, to he firm and prudent, but to go on with a determina tion to succeed in their holy cause. Several letters stated that if some of the Delegates would visit and agi tate the midland counties, theywould get many to jointhem. Also one from Stepney-green, complaining of the unfair conduct pursued at a late meeting in the Tower Hamlets, at which the Chairman was charged with stating that one-tenth of the meeting who voted that the Lon don Delegates had not been fairly chosen at the meeting in Palace-yard, formed the majority of the meeting. Mr. MARSDEN gave in 4,632 names to the petition from Blackburn, Lancashire. On the motion of Mr. CLEAVE the Instructions given to the Delegates on going into the country were read. They were as follows : INSTRUCTIONS TO ➢IISSIONARIES. We, the Delegates of the Industrious Classes as sembled, having appointed you as Missionary, do hereby instruct you to explain the principles of the People's Charter, to obtain signatures to the National Petition for Universal Suffrage, to collect subscribtions for rent, and by every legal and constitutional means to extend political information among the people, and in the pro secution of the above objects ; we hereby charge and enjoin you not to hold communication with any asso ciated body, not to use violent or unconstitutional lan guage, and not to infringe the laws in any manner, by word or deed." Mr. WHITTLE then rose to bring forward a resolu tion to the effect that the Chairman of the meeting held upon Kennington Green having refused to report the proceedings of that meeting, any Delegate who was present at the meeting should give a report of what took place. After reading over the minutes of what took place on the introduction of Mr. Williams, as member . for Lambeth, he said it had been taken for granted that he acted in this case as a partisan of Mr. Williams. The terms of his motion would clear him from that charge. It spoke for itself, and wanted little from him to,TecOmMend it. On thcq)bcasion When the question waalasf.befOrathe' CotiVentlim a Committee had been appointed, and he had flillY;,expeeted they would have made such a report as would have settled the question. They had not done so, and a Member having been pre sented to the Convention, it became necessary for them either to receive him, or give good grounds for their refusal. He would therefore press his motion. Mr. SANKEY said the • Committee had not reported upon the whole question, because Mr. Neesom had said that Mr. Williams had given up his seat until he had again met his constituents. It might, however, be as well to know that Mr. Ross, the chairman of the meet ing, refused to sign the required certificate, because of some private reasons. The Committee thought it as well to inquire into these, and they saw Mr. Williams and Mr. Ross upon the subject. Mr. Ross acknow ledged that he had taken a strong course in refusing to sig❑ the certificate, but lie considered he was justified in so doing ; amongst other things, because ten days' clear notice had not been given of the meeting. Upon in quiry, however, this turned out to be erroneous, but still he refused to sign because of something Mr. Williams had said respecting the Convention. It was no party question in the Convention—they had too much faction there already, and he was sorry to say that it was tend ing very much towards weakening that confidence which their constituents had placed in them. Mr. COLLINS regretted that the subject had ever been brought before the Convention, as it was impossible for them co interfere at all in it without losing their charac ters for good sense and judgment. Mr. Williams had declared through Mr. Neesom that he declined to take his seat until be bad seen his constituents—had he done so ? He might have seen some of them privately, but the Convention must have the evidence of a public meeting, and nothing else. He was a friend of Mr. Williams, both publicly and privately, but he thought the Convention had nothing to do with the matter, he would therefore move the " previous question" The CHAIRMAN asked if the motion had been se conded. Mr. SANKEY in - explanation said he had not seconded the motion, but with pleasure he would second the amendment. Mr. CLEAVE—The proceedings have been altogether irregular. Mr. CARD° seconded Mr. Whittle's motion. After the rules for regulating elections had been read, Mr. SKEVINGTON said as in this case there was no certificate from the Chairman of the election of Mr. Williams as was required by the standing o rd e r s , th e y could has e no knowledge of him as a Delegate. Those rules had been made long before the case occurred, and if they did not abide by them, they would become the laughing-stock and contempt of every body. Mr. MnasPEN said every one present was a parti.an in one way or other, and as the Chairman of the meet ing did not deny that Mr. Williams had been elected, he thought the Convention ought to take up and decide the case. Dr. FLETCHER—It had been said that he complained of having been insulted by Mr. Williams—he had not done so. he had merely stated the fact, but he was too old a politician to care for any attack one hour after wards. 'What he had said was, that there was a con spiracy abroad to upset or swamp the Conventian, and he cited the conduct of Mr. Williams in order to prove it, and that he was a party to it. ; but he had no personal feeling against Mr. Williams. He could not agree with Mr. Marsden, that because the Chairman of the meet- ing refused to sign the certificate, therefore the Conven- Lion ought to take up the question. If the inhabitants of a district had made an improper choice of a Chair man, it was their own fault. They milt to have in sisted upon his signing the required c er tifi ca t e o f t h e return before he let the Chair, or have unchaired him and elected another who would do their will.—(Cheers.) Mr. Williams had waived his right to sit, and the only remedy was not a vote of the Convention, but another public meeting.—( Hear, hear.) They could not displace a Member. He saw some shake their heads, but his opinion was that that power lay with the con stituency alone. If they were to interfere in the ques tion the whole time they had to remain in London would be be taken up with it.—(Hear, hear.) He knew that another meeting had been called, and the men of East Surrey were determined that it should be their own meeting, as Lambeth was to be excluded, and none but those who paid rent were to vote.—( Hear, hear)—as they considered they had been tricked be fore. They said they had been tricked—the other party asserted the contrary. How were they to decide such controverted facts? They ought to bear in mind that nothing had ever brought such disgrace upon the other House of Commons—( A laugh) —as their. conduct upon controverted elections. Let them, therefore, be wise, and have nothing to do with it. Be sides, they were threatened with having eight more Lon don Delegates sent to them. They must meet that at once ; either let the constituencies call upon their pre sent members to resign or be contented. He had been represented as having said that his constituents would not submit to *be controlled by the people of Lon don. He had said no such thing :he had said that they would not submit to be c-ntroded by the London Clubs. He had the greatest respect for the people of every part of the country, and he never drew any invi dious gomparisons. Ile was opposed to clubbism ; he was for popular controul of the most extended kind ; and it was impossible to p ace any opular contrail where the popular voice was controlled by clubs. Mr. CARDO said that sufficient had beet, already said on this subject, and he hoped Mr. Whittle would with draw his motion, because another meeting was to be held ; and if Mr. Williams should be elected, he would take his seat without opposition. He did not allow that two factions existed in London ; tae w,.s hUn•elf West London democrat, and had been on a tnisEAtaa from the Convention into the country, where he had assisted in the formation of Working Men's As,awia tions, therefore he could not be charged with faction. Dr. FLETCHER explained. Mr. BURNS suggested that some measure should he adopted, regulating, if possible, the number of Dele gates, or any one town might send an unlimited number of Delegates. After a few words from Mr. CARDO and Mr. CoLLINS, Mr. CLEAVE said that he agreed with Mr. Burns. It was not competent to the Convention to entertain this question, inasmuch as it was contrary to their rule. It was quite competent to Mr. Whittle to move any alteration of the rules of this Convention, but here was a Delegate introduced who did not produce his creden tials. The Chairman of the meeting had refused to furnish those credentials, and a party -had come there who was a friend of this Delegate, who stated that he had withdrawn, and was willing to go to a new election. What could the Convention have to do with the matter after this? He did not suppose Mr. Whittle would have been so imprudent as to propose a resolution of this description. He knew the country was crying shame at these petty squabbles, which d ,roped the feelings of the people, and acted as a hauche to their enemies. He regretted what had occurred, on account of the calico-printers of Mitcham, who had not been fairly dealt by on Kennington Common, The election ought not have been held there ; it was not fair to those men who had supported the Convention by sending it funds, and by every means in their power. Dr, Fletcher had spoken of the two factions ; he did not belong to any faction, but he must regret that Dr. Fletcher should have said that he had less respect for the faction who had drawn up the People's Charter than for the oppo site faction. Several members here rose amid cries of " Order." ‘, The CHAIRMAN interfered, and Dr. FLETCHER rose to explain. He had pot used the word faction ; he had said that each had crotchets with which he did not agree. Mr. CLEAVE said that Dr. Fletcher was wrong in his chronology ; the People's Charter was drawn up four months before the other faction had any existence. He agreed with Mr. Burns as to the necessity of making some rule as to the number of new Delegates, or the Convention would swamp itself ; each contending party in a town would be sending a Delegate ,and thus perpe tually act and re-act on each other. The thing was very dangerous, not only as regarded numbers, but as regarded money. It had been stated that the Con vention had at present funds to the amount of 1,0001. in hand. He knew of one part of the country where 50/. was waiting, but it had been said, " Don't send this money to London, but keep it and pay your Dele gates better." It is impossible to know but the object might be to get at their funds. He regretted these discussions. Mr. WHITTLE said he must obtain leave to withdraw his motion. Mr. RICHARDSON moved that Mr. Whittle do have leave to withdraw his motion, and regretted that the time of the Convention hag been taken up with matters which ought not to have engrossed their attention at all. Mr. RICHARDS asked what was the number of De legates from London and its environs : or whether De legates for East Surrey were not elected in Palace-yard. Several Voices.—" No." Mr. RICHARDS—Other places had elected Delegates for the place and its environs, and he asked whether the London Delegates had been elected in the same way ? The CHAIRMAN said that one county could not be con sidered as a district of another county. Mr. WHITTLE rose to order. The question was then put and carried, and Mr. Whittle withdrew his motion on the grounds of a new election being about to take place. TOWER HAMLETS. The SECRETARY then read a communication which he bad received from the Tower Hamlets, denying the truth of a letter which had been received, stating the election of a Delegate on Stepney-green. A meeting had been held there, and a resolution was carried by a large majority, declaring that it was highly inexpedient to elect addi tional Delegates, as they were quite contented with those who had been elected in Palace-yard, who, they consi dered, represented the Tower Hamlets as well as the other districts of London. But after that resolution was carried one of the waggons was wheeled away—the greater part of the people left, considering the business was over, and if any election took place after, they pro tested against it. Mr. RICHARDSON asked if Stepney- was a part of Lambeth.—(Laughter.) Mr. O'BRIEN took that opportunity of suggesting that it would be proper that no Delegate should, for the future, be admitted, who does not produce signatures and rent. NATIONAL PETITION. Mr. DUNCAN then moved—That it be an instruction to those Members of Parliament, who have charge of the National Petition, not to consent to any change in its statements or wording, with a view to facilitate its presentation, more .particularly with regard to the words, " we demand universal," any alteration in which would be an insult to the people. Some conversation then ensued as to whether it was the duty of the Committee, or of the Secretary, to write to those Members, when The SECRETARY stated that he would write im mediately. Mr. HETHERINGTON said the Convention were not doing their duty, unless they came to a distinct under standing as to what party was to be held responsible for not having made a communication to these Members. Dr. FLETCHER would move that Mr. O'Connor be held responsible. As for himself he would never share responsibility without power. Mr. DUNCAN then withdrew his motion. Mr. MARsDEN then moved that the Members of Par liament who present the petition be desired to ask leave to bring in a Bill embodying the provisions • of the Peo ple's Charter within six days after the presentation of the petition. He said he had brought forward this mo tion in consequence of the course pursued by Messrs. Attwood and Fielden, who had asked for concessions which the Convention could not grant. Some persons were apprehensive that the Bill would not be presented at all, and when Members acted in the manner in which these Members had done, all confidence in Members of the House of Commons was at an end, when those gen tlemen who had come forward so prominently could act kin the way they bad done. Mr. SKEVINGTON seconded the motion. He was anxious to know if a Bill founded on the People's Char ter would be brought forward or not. Mr. SANKEY would move the previous question by way of amendment. These gentlemen had expressed their willingness to present the petition, Mr. Attwood reserving to himself the right of expressing his opinion if a certain resolution were not agreed to. There could be no objection to that. Mr. Attwood was responsible for the movement. If he had acted wisely he would have put himself in communication with the members of the Convention, and then he would have obtained in finite power of restraining violent language. Messrs. Attwood and Fielden, as their friends certainly had a right to exercise a distretion as to the ulterior measures they would adopt in the House. He thought the mat ter ought to be left in their hands, and that they should not be niisstrusted. Mr. WHITTLE seconded Mr. Sankey's amendment. Mr. Attwood had preserved good faith with them, and they had no right to treat men of upright character like Mr. Attwood, as if it were requisite to suspect them. He would say with regard to the conduct of public men, test them, and if they were found wanting remove them ; but while they possessed their confidence they ought to be treated with proper respect. Mr. CARPENTER Only rose to say a word on the impos sibility of presenting the petition on Monday. When he made this statement as a iratter of fact on a former occa sion he was met with something like denunciation, and was told that he was throwing a wet blanket on the ques tion.—( Hear, hear, from Mr. Miles.) He knew then that, unless the House of Commons rescinded its resolutions, it cculd not be presented on that day ; and for saying so he was blamed by persons, for what reasons he could not know- 7 ( Hear, hear. ) _ Mr. LOVETT—Great blame attached to either Messrs. Feilden or Attwood of to the Committee for this delay.— ( Hear, hear.) He thought Mr. Marsden was right in bringing forward this resolution, and he wished that Mr. Carpenter would explain where the blame attached.—(Cries of " Hear.") The country expected that that petition should be presented on that day, and now, at the eleventh hour, it is stated it must be post poned. He would be glad to hear any explanation on the subject.—( Hear and cheers.) Mr. CARPENTER explained, that the state of busi ness in the House of Commons, as it was stated by the Morning Papers esterday, with regard to Mr. Sergeant Talfourd's Bill, was such that the Order Book was ful! for many days to come. Mr. CARDO—It would destroy the movement if they did not take means to bring on an early discussion on their question. He was not much conversant with these matters, but he thought that the debate might be brought on on the introduction of a money vote. —( Hear.) It was too bad that the country should, at the end of three months, be told that there was a necessity for this postponement.—( Hear.) Dr. NI DOUALL thought that they should present the pe tition to the Members, and leave it to them. The people outside would not be longer trifled with.—(Hear.) A n d if any longer delay was intended, the country would ill brook it. The Convention had already sunk in the opinion of the country, and this postponement would still lessen them in the estimation or the people at large.---( Hear.) Dr. FLETCHER excused 'himself from any responsibility held by the Committee on the petition, as he was absent from town on the hu.iness of the Convention in Birmingham (luring the time the latter part , of the arrangements w ere made by them. —( Hear, hear.) Mr. MILLS defended the conduct of the Committee, I dial Mr. COLLINS. Mr. Ricitardn—He, as an individual member of the Getvtittit, hteteht th.tt thy could not withdraw the peritton f,cnn th.• had; of M.--rs Atta,aai and rei len. The people were those who had to deal with them; they in:rusteL to those gentlemen their claims, and it was for them to decide what should be done. If thy refused to prevent it, notwithstanding their promises to the contrary , a thing he (Mr. R ) was confinent they would not do—the people alone were capable of deciding on such conduct. • Mr. JAMES TAYLOR thought that the Petition Com mittee ,• Deputation It,al to.g-lecte , i their duties; he niust stiv, that h. ,at the San.. t imr, excul, aced sari. Coll aod Mills front any hi i.e --( Hear, hear. ) He thought it Wma too bad that at the cod of three months the petition wa, in no sate et forwardness Mr. COLLINS rose to 'order.—( Order, order. )—lt was too bad that these imputations should tie cast on Mem bers. —(Chair, chair.) Mr. RicnaansoN thought they ought to be watching over the petition instead of intertering with elections. The whole of their time should be devoted to this busi^ ncss, and no matter wisat the country would say of those who were to present it ; they would give them (he Convention) etedit for doing their duty. If they did not act promptly on this occasion, the country he w 3. afraid would look on their conduct with eyes of great ills' trust.—( He-.r. Mr. BURNS said they had nothing m•ye with ll , ' p titi•ffl oas y. -tcrday resoi‘ed that tit , Coo, hate %yhteh had ellar,,y- of it ~ !I.nild present it lo tn,..M:ntihe rs on the 61 - 1 of May. What could lie desired nitre than this. He thought it wai unfair that they should renew d:t , eussiou oft the subj ct. from time to tine ail' out has 1 :1 , 4 o n , grounds to support imputations thrown on t he , Committee. Mr. PITKEITHLEY defended the Petition Cominitue• There a s vidence dsily received from he country ;11,,t the pp , p'e hot t xp•‘et lite petitimishothd bepre,cived on the 64i May NI parts of the countr) would not seed in their p titions until Monday.—( Hear, hear.) He thought that Mr Richardson was more to blame in delaying these . petitions in his own hands to this period than were the memb .rs of the Committee on whom his rem irks reflected so much inattention to their duties.—( Hear.) Mr. O'BRIEN—They had lost sight of the subject alto gether They were debating the question of the presen tation of the petition a hen the real subject before the chair w:is, that the Bill or the Charter should be brought in on six days after that presentation. Now he took It that the petition was not definitively settled to be presented on the Gth of May; it was sometime about that per ioo certainly; but still when the Committee pledged themselves that.the petition would be in the hands of the 'Members on the 6th, he thought it would not be prudent to confine them to one day.—( Hear, hear.) He would advise NU' Marsden to either withdraw his resolution or s uffer an addition, which would not confine the introduction of the Charter to within six days from the 6th of May. Mr. MARSDEN replied. After giving leave to Mr. O'Bri f ell to make the necessary changes according to his (NU' O'Brien's) views, it was as follows :—" That as the Pc; tition is to be placed in the hands of Messrs. Fielden an " Attwood on Monday, the 6th inst., those gentlemen era requested to name the earliest day possible, on which they will more for leave to bring in a Bill embodying the Prin ciples of the People's Charter, and that those gentle bat are further requested to pledge themselves absolutely th a a no further postponement or delay shall take place beyon, the day specifi.d, in order to prevent disappointment to the people." Mr. SANKEY withdrawing his resolution of the preVint li question, The CHAIRMAN put the resolution as it then stood, ye l l which it was passed unanimously. DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MEMBERS. Mr. COLLINS said as no business was at present be ft r .: the Chair he would take the liberty of resigning . fron t duties as a member of the Petition Committee, in O ri e l; quence of the repeated insults that he had received at hands ov some of the Members lately.--( Hear, hear.) of Mr. HErHERINOTON would request of Mr. Collins 0, to take any notice of what was said to him. His ser vice, i were of that kind which gained for him the applause o f a l l parties. Mr. O'BRIEN hoped that Mr. Collins would not perse l " o in his determination of giving up his valuable service s • the Petition Committee. Mr. Skevingtou, the Chairman, Mr. Smart, and (. 14 j . Donaldson, also expressed their conviction that Mr. L'. ° ; lins's services demand the best thanks of the Convent l :4 and the country, for the praiseworthy manner which be acted on the Petition Committee. t he Mr. COLLINS, in a few words, pledged himself that petition would be ready to be presented on Moods) ? e r ( Hear, bear, and cheers.) He would say that the m a , nn , in which he was treated, not only on this day but yeste r l had made such an impression on him, that he would P er vere in hia few o' s resnation. Afterremarks from the CHAIRMAN the su b j ect dropped. 9 54 The SECRETARY read a letter from Tiverton, with ;o . signatures and one pound rent, and desiring that Mil s-- aries sliculd be sent among them. e in. ,h Mr. O'BRIEN handed in signatures from 1,308 01 ` — ,,oe habitants of Portsea,.and also handed in from that plan e ", pound rent. ULTERIOR MEASURES. . 70,. Pee" Dr. FLETCHER, in reply to a qu,stion put by . flo rt, gan, said the Committee were in a forward state to r' - e re but that they would not do so for some days. Th e y ',be of opinion that they should not report until eft!r time presentation of the petition, and until it would be the The for acting upon the r e sults of th e fate of that petition•ibility duties were so important, and th e y f e lt their respe es u bj e ct so great, that it would b e unw i se not t o g i ve the 5 the most mature consideration.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. CARDO handed in ten shillings rent, and 1,250 S i t natures, from Newton in Devonshire. After which the thanks of the meeting w ere g i ven to g r ' Bussey, upon which the meeting dissolved. The following is the letter of Mr. Attwood to the C° ll. vention, read in yesterday's debate:— TO THE GENERAL CONVENTION OF TO INDUSTRIOUS CLASSES- a , An g . St. George's Terrace, May " ;-- bir- GENTLEMEN,—In reply to your application , I ~.... Fielden and myself to present the National Petition, n u ; to say, that, if you entrust it to our care, I shall cert:o, present it, and support its objects by every meal I s and power. It was drawn up by my friend Mr. Doug a r i ess if entirely approved by me. Your Convention was et n ioar designed by me, in the Rules of the Birmingllaz a ow, dour ten years ago; and it was directed to assemble in bello at my express instance, by the great meeting at H ° e el Head on the 6th of August last. I have therefore sorra inducement, as a patriot, and as a man, to take our and sincere interest in the National P e tition and Ill biell Convention, and in the great and righteous objects w you are assembled to support. to i t° But, Gentlemen, I think it my duty to retool.- 01 that much imprudent language has been attributed t ° ,, l ftbe members of your Convention, in different parts !bete country, and that many errors and misrepresenta tion :d in' gone abroad in the public mind respecting the views s o bY tentions of your Convention, and respecting the nie n a f - oP i : which it is proposed to accomplish them ; and I am -I. greet nion that it is highly important to the success of eu u blicv a cause to have such errors and misrepresentations Ploreted corrected and contradicted. At present they have a l sa d and alienated the middle classes, without whose aid co d friendly co-operation there is no hope for the worhil el :: air, they have also tended to alarm and alienate the j ' e ut " 00' tressed, and in many instances the better dispos e u among the workmen themselves. ea" be si It would be m o st s a tisfactory to me, b e fore I Pr e , s c , Ps I petition, if your Convention should think right Ihiell i f some resolutions, setting at rest the c a l um nies to ." et , ' t allude, and quieting the public mind upon the sub,J, e o o l9 you should not b e di spose d to d o so , an d s h ou ld sti" so tise the petition to my care, I shall find it my duty, on rep o or it, to guard my own ch arac t er , an d th e great int er ' , 0 trusted to me, in such way as I ma y d eem n ecessel; se t a In order to prevent mi sun d ers t an di ng , I cycl e / ,be ts . se resolutions, the words, or the spirit of which , , c oPt o f wish to have adopted by your Convention. They by I only three objects :—first, a disclaimer of all theoci legio violence and physical force in o btai n i ng the jest %1 of i so objects of the National Petition ; se co nd, a de al- 10 0 %0 wish to promote di scor d, or se p ara ti on o f i n terest: t i e C' to masters and men, or between the lower and mid 0110 ja of the community ; and third, a de n t a l of all W oo l, o f enctoach upon the just rights and privileges Of °tereStl seeking to obtain the just rights, liberties, and -n the people. 1 1185° ,-, N 1 1 „ i 'tlt PEACE, LAW, ORDER LOYALTY, and UNI ON Bir.--,. 1 01 were the sacred banners under which the men e f f be Ile ° l ,o ham led their countrymen to victory in carrying `„,,tioo st er Bill. Under these sacred banners your Ce av- c hgre, e9 e now the opportunity of leading the people to la ° f e st to o '4 ; and more glorious victory. 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