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land. This was a great boon, be conceived, to the people of Ireland, and he thought it might be safely granted. In Scot land the banks kept but little gold. Indeed, he might say, that the business was done in that country upon gold. He was free to confess that as vet no loss had been suffered by the country or the banks, but yet it was unsound in principle that there should be no requirement of having assets to meet the claims made upon them. Practically, he might say, there had been no gold kept in Scotland. In Ireland, he believed, the banks had conducted their business most creditably, and had always a large amount of specie to meet their circulation. He believed that in the Bank of Ireland there was at least 400,000/., and at Belfast there bad been banks inferior to no existing banks in Ireland for the soundness of the system, and proving the excellence of the principle of always obliging banks to meet their issues with gold, and he believed that the establishment of this principle would have the effect of increasing the issues rather than contracting them. The banks would not be obliged to keep so great an amount of gold as they would otherwise require. They would not have so great a stake in the risk of the country. He be lieved that, owing to the branches of the Bank of Ireland, they were obliged to keep 'BOO,OOO/. at the head-office, and the Provincial Bank of Ireland kept a proportionate amount. In addition to this, they were obliged to keep a quantity of stock both at the head-office of the Bank of Ireland and also at the Provincial Bank. For the relief which this 8.11 would give them from the competition, and thus enable them to extend their issues accordingly, all he asked was, that a provision should be made to the full amount of the issues, and this was all the restriction he required—a restriction equally required by the safety of the country, and the convenience of the banks themselves. That was the position which he took, and he believed it to be a sound one, and he should resist every at tempt to change it. With respect to the two periods which had been named, during which he had assumed the averages, one commenced twelve weeks before the 27th of April, and the other embraced twelve months before that time. This appeared at first sight a little unlavourable to Ireland ; but he would do away with this, and take the same period with re spect to Ireland as he had taken with respect to Scotland, and increase the amount of circulation which that would have made it in the first instance. He thought that, by this measure, he was conferring a great boon upon, Ireland, and he hoped that it would be so received in that country. He hoped that the Irish Members in that House would not stoop to any minute criticism, but that they would take the measure as a whole. had intended to assi milate the position of England, Scotland, and Ireland, and he had done so as far as circumstances would allow. He believed that it would prove a great means for the extension and im provement of commerce and agriculture, and would, at the same time, have the effect of adding a beneficial security which they had never hitherto enjoyed, and that the banks themselves would, in the course of anotker year, allow that the measure had been productive of all the utility which he had anticipated. Mr. ROCHE said that the Right Hon. Baronet had en deavoured to make out a case by showing the mischievous ten dency of the present system, and by carrying them back to that period of horror ; but the state of things at the time the fifty banks had failed had been entirely altered. He had also pointed them to the period of 1837, when the Agricultural Bank of Ireland had failed, but he had omitted to inform the House that the public had net suffered anything from that failure. The question was not as to either the extent of the circulation or not, but whether they were to have one Government bank of issue. As to the whole question of tike circulation, for that he was not compe tent; but the question he had to consider was, what right had the Right Hon. Baronet to interfere with the currency of Ire land at all? The Right Hon. Baronet had alloWed that the banks of Ireland had been stable—that, to use his own words, they were most respectable, and had conducted their opera tions with great prudence and ability, and that only six of them bad failed. What pretence, then, was there for interfering with them? Could he assert that there bad been any excess of paper issue ? Could he prove that the business had not been properly managed ? The Honourable Member for Coventry (Mr. Williams) had stated that the systems of banking in Scotland and England ought to be assimilated, but he had at the same time allowed that the increase of trade and commerce required an increase of the circulating medium. What were they doing at this time ? They had allowed that it was necessary that for the prosperity of the country, railroads and all the other national improvements should be introduced, but how was this to be effected without an increase at the same time in the circulating medium ? Why should they take with one hand, what they gave with the other ? There were two banks in Dublin, the 'Royal Bank of Ireland, and the Hibernian Bank, which were located in Dublin, which all allowed to have conducted their business in a most creditable manner, and to have paid reasonable dividends according to the amount of their capital, and yet which were allowed on all hands to be unable to become banks of issue. He thought that these banks ought to enjoy the advantage of the enlarged issue, without the restrictions which the Right Honourable Baronet imposed. But it was not his intention to offer any impediment to the Bill going into Committee, as the object which he should oppose would come before them in the clauses, and when these were before them he should certainly move amendments on several of tbem, as he thought the measure would thereby be rendered more agreeable to the feelings and interests of the people of Ireland. Mr. VVA DDINGTON said that he thought the measure would require much to render it palatable for those for whom it was intended. He thought that Ireland ought to be put on a par with Scotland, which he thought to be of great impor tance in the present rising, thriving, and promising condition of Ireland. When they were applying the principle of these tw) Bills to Ireland they ought to keep in mind the peculiar cirmaistances of each country. Sir R. FERGUSON complained that in the limits chosen by the Right Hon. Baronet opposite, he had cut down exces sively the circulation of the Irish banks ; whereas he had given to the Scotch banks all the advantage of their own statements. The limitation of the circulation would operate materially to the repression of industry, and to the injury of the general interests of the country. The Hon. Gentleman then went into numerous statements of monetary items, upon which he founded his opposition to the Bill. Lord CLEIIENTS hoped that the House would not sup port such partial and injurious legislation as was attempted in this Bill. _ _ Me. S. CRAWFORD said that the object of the Bill was to assimilate Ireland to England, in monetary matters. Eng lead was in a h:gh state of prosperity, and did not require the aid of bank notes to stimulate its industry. Ireland was in a very different position, and he objected altogether to the pro posed restriction. He had no objection to place a wholesome restriction upon the issue of bank paper ; but he thought this measure would go to the extent of restricting the circulation below the wants of the people. He would reserve to a future occasion what more he had to say upon this subject. Mr. WYSE had no objection to a careful restriction of the issue of bank notes. But he thought that Ireland, with a po pulation of 8,000,000, and a circulation of 7,000,0001., should hare, at least, as large a number of banks of issue as Scotland, which had a population of only two millions and a half. 'the House then went into Committee upon the Bill. On the reading of clause 1, Sir WM. SOMERVILLE rose to move, pursuant to no tice, a series of amendments, of which the following was the first and principal, and that to which he first applied himself : " And whereas there have existed in the city of Dublin, for a series of years now last past, and still exist therein, two Joint Stoct Companies trading as bankers, one known as the Hiber nian Joint Stock Banking Company, and the other known as the Royal Bank of Dublin, but which said two Banking Com panies being united in covenants or partnership exceeding the number of six persons, and residing and having their establish ments or houses of business within the distance of fifty miles of Dublin, were not, before the passing of the said Act of the seventh and eighth year of the reign of her Majesty, nor are they now, entitled to borrow, owe, or take up any sum or sums of money on their bills or notes payable on demand, or to make and issue such bills or notes accord ingly payable on demand: And whereas said two Joint- Stock Banking Companies. on the 6th day of May, one thousand eight hundred and forty-tour, were there fore not lawfully (or at all) issuing their own bank notes, and it would be of injury to said Joint-stock Banking Com panies if the power of becoming banks of issue was withheld from them respectively when extended to several banks to trade hereafter as banks of issue within the City of Dublin and sixty-four miles thereof; and it is therefore expedient that the said two Joint-stock Banking Companies should be autho rised by law to become banks of issue in Ireland, as if the r had been banks of issue on the sixth day of May, one thousand eight hundred and forty-four, anything contained in said re cited Act, passed in the seventh and eighth year of the reign of her present Majesty, to the contrary in anywise notwith standing." In support of this paragraph of Ms resolution he went into a history of the banks to which it refers, and quoted largely from the Parliamentary evidence relating to the operations of the Bank of Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) He then referred to the establishment of the Belfast Banking Company, the Northern Banking Company, and other joint otock banks in Ireland, with their branches. This state of things, continued the Hon. Baronet, caused the Bank of Ire land to establish branches also, and, in 1825, it established twenty-three branches, but of these, six only were within the described circle of sixty-four miles, affording accommodation to a population of 1,300,000, the richest and most flourishing portion of the people of Ireland, while, outside the circle, there were no less than 131 branches. A great deal had been said about the Scotch system, but the case which he detailed to the House in reference to the Bank of Ireland, would, he considered, make it abundantly apparent that there was no analogy what ever between the system in the two countries. The Scotch bankers never had a monopoly to contend with, as they had in Ireland, and, therefore, he did not see how Hon. Members could refer to them in proof of the proposals of joint stock banking in that country. He should like to lonow what effect it would have if the Hon. Baronet would introduce an Act to confer a monopoly on any bank within sixty-four miles of London ? Would he not have an oppo.itioo from the bankers and merchants of London that -a6uld quickly defeat such an attempt? The shares of the banks to which his clause referred, and which had suffered so much by this monopoly, had fallen 15 per cent. And he con sidered that these two banks had a stronger claim than any other banks of Ireland to the benefit of any advantages which were intended to be conferred upon the banking system of Ireland. He would rather throw himself, however, upon the Right Hon. Baronet than upon the Scotch Members of the House, whose assistance he expected, with the hope of pro curing that modification of the clause which was the object of his amendment. The Hon. Baronet concluded by moving the following amendment :—" That in clause 1, and line 5, after the word' thereof,' shall be inserted, and also so much of the said recited Act of 7 c h a n d Bth o f her present Majesty as pro hibits, after the passing of that Act, any other person than a banker, w h o on the 6th day of May, 1844, was law f u ll y i ssu i ng his own bank -notes in any part of the Vnited Kingdom, as far as same may be held t o i nc l u d e i n it s enac t men t s a id ithernian Joint-stock Company and said Royal Bank." The H an . Baronet h had been establiah _ ed ad distinctly proved that joint-stock banks favourable than any in Ireland, under circumstances more un had realised a liberal remunerating concern in that country, and which The circulation did interest on the capital in vested.llettrdi ty not f t depend rade i in upon general.the issue lt w La o f notes, but upon the r proposed to repeal the l e o g n s dr ize n t of last session , and which applied to the whole kingdom, preliminary to the passing of the present Act, and in the restriction s as contained in that mea sure both England and Scotland were included ; but the Hon. wh e e Tption for two banks Baronet asks us to make a particular whether it would be exile_ Ireland. It should be considered these t. two banks to client, under the circumstances, to admit t the particular privilege of issuing notes to less than 900,0001., in addition to the other a-dvatamono t il g n e t s o t f h n e no possessed. The Hon. Gentleman did not seem that though there were no other joint-stock banks iri e r!in w b a lin e ' there existed private bankers, to whom a circulation of note; was desirable, and alto possessed as good a claim to the consi deratifen of the House of Commons as those two banks. Those banks had established themselves entirely under the fos tering care of the Hank of Ireland, and an excellent profit bad resulted on all their transactions. When the Hon. Gen tleman told the House that the banks had suffered great losses, owing to the depreciation of their shares, and time ought to be given them on that account. He would reply, that all the banks in Ireland, included within the circle, had suffered to a certain degree a depreciation in their shares. The Bank of England had felt the effects of depreciation, on the occa sion of the discussion of last year. The shares had fallen from 207 to 204. The shares of the Hibernian Bank had also fallen from 37 to 3li. It was urged, because these two joint stock banks had suffered a greater depreciation, as contra-dis tinguished from the Royal yank, that they had a claim to re lied. The Royal Bank and other banks had fallen in a limited degree, but not to so great an extent as would give any cause for alarm, when the measure should come into operation. If those two banks were conducted on the same principle of pru dence that had hitherto characterised their proceedings, there would be no doubt of a successful result, an' great advantages would generally result to the country. Those banks had carried OR their operations by borrowing notes from the Bank of Ireland, and they would have greater advantages under the present measure, as the provincial banks would be brought within the circle. The measure would effect, in a like degree all the banks in the United Kingdom. He could not give the Hon. Baronet any hope of his acquiescence in the amendment pro posed to the House, for he did not believe it was founded in justice or in policy. Mr. REDINGTON contended that the argument held out by the Right Hon. Gentleman, that equal laws and equal ' rights, as regarded the banking system in England and Ire land, although very plausible, was not correct. For his part he would wish the monopoly of the Bank of Ireland entirely destroyed and a great impulse would be given to the com mercial interests of Ireland. The O'CONOR DON begged to assure the Right Hon. Gentleman that there was no measure that would give greater dissatisfaction to the people of Ireland than the present measure. Sir ROBERT PEEL desired only to promote the perma nent interests of Ireland. There was apparently a misunder standing as respected the intention of the Bill ; it was intended solely to prohibit the issue of notes to those banks that had not been authorized by the measure of last year. In the case of the Scottish banks, there were several of them who had obtained their capital, had issued their advertisements, and had even gone so far as to print their notes, and who had pleaded their entire ignorance of the law which the Administration intended to put in force, and yet had been prohibited from issuing their notes. This was a harder case than that of the two joint-stock banks in Ireland, which had never possessed the privilege of issuing., notes, and which, without possessing that privilege, had suc ceeded in realizing very large profits. It was now endeavoured to exempt these banks from the influence of the present law ; but it was quite impossible to acquiesce in the proposition of the Hon. Baronet to except these two banks from the effect of the law. . . Mr. WYSE argued that the arrangement was adverse, not only to the existing banks in Ireland, but it would seriously limit the circulation in Ireland ; indeed, so much so, as to be highly injurious to the whole of the people. It appeared to him not only to be unwise, but an act of great injustice to assimilate the banks of Ireland with those of Scotland. Mr. C. WOOD did not agree with his Hon. Friend, who looked upon the measure as another act of injustice towards Ireland. On the contrary, he thought it would be a boon to the country, and he was somewhat surprised to hear any Honourable Member connected with Ireland oppose it. Mr. S. CRAWFORD thought nothing could be more un conciliatory than resisting the wishes of the Irish Members, who were almost unanimous. It was politic for the Govern ment to accede to the wishes of those Members, for they re presented the feelings of the Irish people. He would support the amendment. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the cases of analogy between Ireland and Scotland did not hold. They were now going to interfere with the trade of banking in Ireland by subjecting them to great competition. He believed there was a scene of prosperity opening in Ireland, of which no man could calculate the extent, and he hoped it would net be blasted by any re strictive measures. The monopoly of the Bank of Ireland he considered the most odious of all monopolies, and should resist such monopoly to the utmost, and divide the Committee upon the present motion. After a few words from 111 r. COLLET, The House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment Against it Majority against it —6o The clauses up to 7 were then agreed to. On clause 8 being put, Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL proposed to omit in line 8, "one year," and to insert " six months ;" in line 9, " first day of April," and to insert " 25th day of March." After some conversation— Mr. ROCHE considered that nothing could be more reason able than the amendment of the Hon. Member for Kerry. Mr. ROSS expressed himself satisfied with the clause as it stood. Sir ROBERT PEEL said, with regard to the restriction imposed upon the currency, it was done to ensure the perma nent welfare of Ireland. It was his firm impression that it would operate to ensure the prosperity of the country. Mr. FRENCH complained of the way in which the averages had been taken. They were taken at the same time as that for the Bank of England in 1844, whereas they ought to have been taken in 184.5. This had a material effect on the amount of the circulation. After a few words from Mr. WILLIAMS, Sir R. FERGUSON said that neither Ireland nor Scotland were at all satisfied, and he was surprised to see English Mem bers getting up and saying again and again that this measure was far more favourable to them than to England.—( Hear, hear.) He was quite astonished that English Members would stand up and tell them that they knew their own affairs better than they did themselves.—( Hear, hear.) Instead of being able to issue as much paper as they were able to do before, it would oblige them to contract their issues. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL would take the liberty of con curring in the rebuke which had been just admtnistered by the Hon. Member for Londonderry to those worthy friends of theirs who knew their affairs so much better than they did themselves. He thought, however, that the Member for Cork had taken the matter too much to heart. For his own part he was so much accustomed to be in a minority that he thought nothing of it. He would not, however, press his amendment to a division, as he had little hopes of carrying it, and he did so the more readily as he had one to bring forward of far greater im portance. He would therefore withdraw his amendment. The Hon. Member then moved' to omit all words after the words " at the" to the word " of," and to substitute the words " several offices or places." It might be answered him that the principle had been applied to England and Scotland without complaint, but measures that were applicable to one might be destructive to another country. Mr. HAWES considered the complaints of the Irish Mem bers groundless, The conduct of the Government in the in troduction and progress of this Bill had been liberal in the ex treme towards Ireland, and indulgences were extended towards that country which were neither observable towards England or Scotland. Still, believing the present clause might pos sibly be injurious to trade, he hoped the Right Hon. Baronet would re-consider the subject. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER narrowed the discussion to the simple question, whether the Bill would give to Ireland such an expansion of the currency as was necessary to meet the demand of increasing trade and circulation. The bankers of Ireland had 1,100,0001. available for general pur poses, 800,0001 of which was kept at the branches, and 300,0001. at the head-office ; and while the circulation of the Bank of England was 3,000,0001. he considered that the sum he had named would be an ample margin for increased currency. Mr. M. O'FERRALL regretted that the Government would not adopt the amendment, and strongly advised them to do so. Mr. S. WORTLEY considered that if a certain amount of issue were allotted to each bank, there would be no difficulty in dividing it proportionably between the different branches. After some remarks from Mr. Ross, Mr. Warburton, Mr. Redington, and other Hon. Members, Sir R. PEEL said that he preferred the Irish banking system to the Scottish, because in Ireland they made their payments at the branch banks, not at the bead office, and that, he considered, afforded a greater security. If he could adopt the amendment, leaving full security to the holders of notes, he should be very glad to do so. The clause was agreed to without a division. Clauses up to clause 13 were then passed. On the proposition of the 14th clause, which would do away with the fractional notes in Ireland, Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL said that he hoped that the clause might, if it could be done, be postponed. Sir R. PEEL thought it could not, with any consideration of the public convenience, be delayed; and he hoped Hon. Mem bers would not offer any unnecessary impediment to the Bill. Sir D. NORRs.YS said that this would be a great interfe rence with the usages of the country. Sir R. PEEL thought that if they had fractional notes of ss. and lOs , they would prevent the circulation of the silver; and the same argument applied to a 255. note as a ss. note. He had a very strong impression, that if they were to allow the 253. note, they would prevent the circulatiod of silver. So long as they had the notes they would not have the silver. REDINGTON said that the Right Hon. Bart. had always expressed a respect for the feelings of the country ; but when the time came he invariably found some reason for throwing these feelings overboard ; and if there was to be an abolition of the small notes, they might have the 30s. note. Mr. M. O'FERRALL suggested that they might pursue the medium plan, and abolish the small notes, and retain the 30s. notes. Mr. C. WOOD advocated the abolition of the small notes, on the ground that from the evidence laid before the Commit tee, it was clear that the small notes superseded the use of silver specie, which was kept at great inconvenience in the provincial banks, and the Bank of Ireland, and had in many cases to be reshipped, because it could not be used in the country. Colonel RAWDON apprehended that much inconvenience would arise from the passing of this clause. It often hap pened that people found it very difficult, in their small deal ings, to get change of these notes, and therefore the silver cir culation would be much more useful. Lord BERNARD believed that the abolition of the 30s. notes would be of the greatest benefit to the country, and there fore he cordially agreed in the proposition. Clauses 14, 15, and 16, were then read and agreed to, as were also clauses 17, 18, 19, and 20, with some verbal amendments. Clauses 21 to 32 were agreed to, with some verbal amend mendments, and ordered to stand part of the Bill. The House then resumed. The Chairman reported progress, and the report was ordered to be received on Thursday. PRIVILEGE. _ _ _ The SERJEANT-AT-ARMS appeared at the bar, and in formed the House that in the action of " Howard v. Gossett," execution was levied on Saturday for 4361. Sir R. PEEL moved that the communication just made to the House by the Serjeant-at-Arms, be referred to the COIR. mittee on Privilege.—Agreed to. The standing orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at one o'clock. THE SUN, LON DON, TUES D I EVENING, JU NE 10, 1840, House, and resisting their Lordships' wishes. To that, however, he had given his most unqualified denial. He moreover was charged with being foolish, short-sighted, and ignorant, fancying he had protection out of that House, the Noble Lord adding, " but if he thinks so, he will find himself greatly mistaken." He asserts, however, that he relies on no protection, and feels himself actuated by no such impression as had been imputed to him. On the contrary, it was his earnest desire to consult the opinion of the House in every respect, as tracts of country which had been entirely waste. But he didnot think this was the legitimate source from which they ought to de rive capital, and the landlords or tenants ought not to be en couraged to look to it. The State had very properly removed the impediments which prevented the landlords from impro:ing their property, and beneficial results had ensued; but the third was the grand source upon which he relied. The most important of all—he meant encouraging the occupying tenant to invest his capital in the land—(hear)—an object which had not yet been brought under their Lordships' atten tion, and which was yet well worthy of their Lordships' con sideration, not only because th ere might be engaged in the cultivation of the soil a large amount of capital which teas fib* idle, but because that improvement would engage the indus try and skill of the population, give them an interest in the soil, and a desire to maintain and increase the peace, good order, and welfare of the count r y. —( H ear , hear.) Perhaps it might seem extraordinary to talk of the capital of the occu pying tenants. He admitted many of them were in penurious circumstances ; but some of that class of persons, however they became possessed of it, were masters of sums of money which would astonish many of their Lordships ; and one of the most unhappy features in the state of the country was that these men refused to invest such money in the land. In England the tenant was anxious to display his capital to the land lord when about to take a farm; in Ireland, the tenant con. cealed it, afraid that either the landlord, the clergy, or other claimants would be more extravagant in their demands upon him. But however this might be with respect to money there was no doubt but in Ireland there was a superabundance of labour and industry, and this was the species of capital which he wished their Lordships to invite the tenantry of Ireland to bestow upon the land.—( Hear, hear.) He asked them not only to call forth that capital, but to give the tenant a security in its investment. He knew that inter ference between landlord and tenant would be objected to by many of their Lordships, and if the relation of landlord and tenant were the same in Ireland as in this country he would not advocate the present measure. Bat the circumstances of the two countries were in this respect so widely different that no comparison whatever could be made. In England the land lords were mostly resident —he would not say they were all nnin cumbered--but there was a kind feeling between them and their tenantry promoted and nurtured by frequent intercourse —the intermediate - lessees were in England almost unknown. The farms in England were of considerable extent, extending to many hundreds of acres. A farm of fifty or sixty acres was generally considered small. Again there was a distinction be tween the farmers and the agricultural labourers. There were some few exceptions, but as a rule, they were as a class dis tinct. In England also, it was the practice for the landlord in the first instance to place the buildings in a tenantable state of repair. Iu all parts of Ireland was the case not only dis similar, but precisely the reverse.—( Hear, hear). There the quantity of land held by each tenant was small, while the num ber of holders was very large. The landlords were non-resi dents, and a large portion of the land was held by middle men, who let it out at rack rent to other parties, who were generally tenants at will. In fact, nearly all the land in Ireland was let upon that tenure, leases being the exception not the rule ; un like England, where leases were the rule and not the exception —the exception being in cases where successive generations had occupied the same farms, and had full confidence in the honour and generosity of their landlords. That the farms in Ire land were of the smallest possible dimensions would appear from the Report of the Poor-law Commissioners for 1844. That report stated that of 1,14 1,000 rateable tenants, there were 629,000 or 630,000, or h a lf t h e num b er, rated under 51. In the same report, it was stated that 25 acres, 20 acres, or 15 constituted large fauns—( Hear, hear.) Twenty-five acres was held to be an exorbitant possession of land ; and 25 acres, down to 10 acres, or to give them the benefit of Irish acres, from 15 to 20 statute acres were looked upon as far more than any tenant should be allowed to occupy. These farms were held at rack rent, and the usual practice was for the tenant to maintain in a state of repair all buildings, drains, and fences, or they were not rep a i re d at a ll ; a d uty t h at in England was performed by the landlords. Let their Lordships imagine this country divided into portions of 20 acres and under, and let out by intermediate leases it a rack rent to the smaller holders, tenants-at-will ; let them imagine the houses in which those tenants resided, mere hovels ; let them imagine the soil un drained, and the tillage neglected. Let them imagine this state of things, and could they expect that improvements could go forward? Yet that was the condition of the greater portion of Ireland.--( Hear, hear.) Was that a state of things that ought to be allowed to exist? He would now look at the prac tical results of this system—of depriving the tenants of all en couragement to make improvements. In doing this, he would refer to the Commissioner's Report. In the north of Ireland a system prevailed, caled the " Tenant Right ;" but which had been much better explained by the tenants themselves, who called it " purchasing the good-will of the farms." The prac tice was, for the tenants.at-will, if they were obliged to leave their farms, to sell out to their successors the improvements which had been made upon the land by them during their occu pancy. The evil is, that unless the tenant does this, he loses all the improvements •he may have made. There were always needy competitors ready to take the land under this arrangement; and there was no use in the landlords giving en couragement ts the tenants by low rents, as, if the tenant re tired, he would sell the improvement to his successor, and thus no real benefit would be conferred. The rule and general practice was to pay, under this system, ten or fifteen years' purchase of the land, for the privilege of occupying it. This was an evil only a degree less than that which prevailed in other parts of Ireland. In the south of Ireland the farms were held by fear. The bulk of landlords durst not remove the idle and improvident tenants to make way for industrious and well disposed tenants, with energy and capital, to improve the land. For this state of things the Government proposed a legal remedy. They proposed that if a tenant were obliged to leave his farm before he realised the benefits of his improvements, that compensation should be given him. In the plan which he would proceed to state he might disappoint many, who ima gined that the measure about to be proposed would be one to elevate the tenant at the expense of the rights of the landlords. This was not the ease. He did not propose to interfere either with the granting of leases, or the regulation of the rents to be charged. He only proposed that the tenant should not be turned out of the land penniless, or without compensation.—( Hear, hear.) In speaking of compensation, he included in the term tenant all who held land, with the exception of these who took land for cropping or temporary purposes, and who made no al teration in the land by the way of improvement ; he meant by landlords those immediately above the tenants who let the land and who received the reap; and by eviction he meant the re moval of any party that held land in an immediate or direct manner. There were three objects to be considered in granting compensation. First—buildings; second—draining; third— fencing. He might ex phin th a t fencing was peculiar to Ire land, and when he spoke of fencing, he meant ditching, which was an embankment with a ditch cut on each side of it.— ( Laughter.) With respect to buildings erected by tenants he proposed that they should be estimated for thirty years. The compensation to be reduced one thirtieth each year the tenant remained in possession until the •nd'of the thirty years, when it was presumed the tenant, if he removed, had received the value of his outlay. The same principle was to be applied to draining. The drains, which were to be efficiently con. strutted, and 'at least thirty inches deep, were to be compensated for at the rate of fourteen years, allow ing one-fourteenth to ba reduced each year, so that at the end of the fourteen year: the tenant would have received all the benefits of his drainage. The next was levelling fences. Those who were acquainted with the south of Ireland knew that what was called a fence in England was called a ditch there. —(Laughter.) This force, which was an embankment, with a ditch on each side of it, was often wide enough to drive a ear upon it; the average width, in man: y . instances, not being less than eleven yards. They were ' used as inclosures of fields, vary often ever not more than two, or one acre of land. They rarely eaeh oth e r, o r w ere straight, ranparitiie t i, hre to ,- e, but were cunstructe, d in the most crooked and zig-zag manner possible. Nor were these fences what they pur ported to be , for there was not a horse, cow, pig, or sheep, far less an Irish goat, but what could easily run over them. In fact, these were only masses of crumbling earth. If these did no: constitute fences, their removal was in"..ch to be desired, as by so doing a considerable addition would be made to the acreage of the farms. It would add 12, 14, 15, and, in some cases 20 per cent. to the acreage. This would require no exercise of skill or capital--nothing but labour ; and the mass removed could, be used with great advantage for top-dressing. The land gained by the removal of these unsightly impedi ments to agriculture he proposed should be added to the quantity originally held by the tenant, and taken at twenty years' purchase ascording to the acreable value, deduct hag a twentieth part for compensation. Supposing the value of the improvement was set down at 1001., then the compensa tion would be diminished at the rate of 51. per annum, till the end of twenty years. The compensation under the three heads he had named, he proposed to be limited in extent — namely, 31. per acre for buildings, 1/. per acre for repairs, or 3/. per acre for draining. This compensation was only to be allowed in cases where the tenant was ejected by the landlord. The measure called upon the landlord to do one of two things—either to allow the tenant a certainty of occu pancy, or to grant him compensation in case of his removal. It would, however, be required for these improvements to be be real and substantial ere compensation was allowed. He next proceeded to speak of the machinery necessary to carry out these arrangement=. There was an Act in existence, known by the title of Mr. Pusey's Act, which enabled tenants to charge the estates with the improvements which they made, but the legal forms were so tedious and expensive as altoge ther to supersede the intention of the Act. The provisions of that Bill could not be taken. The Assistant Barristers' Courts had likwise been named, but it was very objectionable on ac count of the expense. The Revising Barristerheld his court dis tant from the localities where its adjudication would be required; and there would be the greatest difficulty in viewing the im provements, or in bringing witnesses to be examined. The only alteration that he conceived could be made, was that devised by her Majesty's Government, which he was happy to say had met with the aiproval of his Noble and Learned Friend (the Lord Chancellor). It was that there should be established in Dublin to office, and an officer who would be entitled the Commissioner of Improvements." They proposed that the; officer should be assisted by six assist ant commissioners, ant that a board—a voluntary and unpaid board—should be also established for the purpose of granting certificates of qualificatsan to such persons desirous of acting in Dublin or the country listricts of Ireland—of acting as assist ant commissioners, to se remunerated from time to time, as might be decided upon. Supposing a tenant, desirous of effect ing certain improvemen t s in his land, he would require to write up to the Commissioners of Improvements in Dublin for the purpose of ascertaining whether the maximum outlay allowed by law had been ar'ived at in this case. On receiving back printed instructions, one to be retained by the tenant— the other to be filled Ira and returned to the Commissioners, and afterwards to be served upon the landlord ; and a provision was further made, ordering that a similar notice should be also served upon the superice landlord, so that no one who could be really interested in the question should be left in ignoranee. If the landlord dissentel from the intended improvements, it was required that he he should do so within three weeks, when a preliminary inquiry would be established—an Assistant Com missioner would be sere down to the spot, there to examine into the nature of the improvements desired, and the probability of their being found useful. He would then report to the Chief Commissioners in Dublin the nature of those improve ments, the amount of outlay required, and whether that outlay would be calculated to and to the ultimate value of the farm. to the tenants of Ireland, end whether they regarded the con ditien of the former, or of the latter, the subject was equally interesting. It would be for them to consider whether the principles which the Government had sought to introduce in this measure were calculated for the good of Ireland, and whether they had steered a itilddid ctitifse, not seeking to id , jure thtl prtipefty of the more powerful class on the one hand, t>f to forget the rights of the humbler classes on the other. He should leave the question with their Lordships, and he sincerely prayed that they might so fradie it that it *otild be found furthering the property and welfare of Ireland. OLANRICARDE was glad to hear that the Govern ment had brought forward the subject of the landlords and tenants in Ireland, because he thought that any legislation on the subject was exceedingly difficult, and more especially was it difficult for any private party in that House to introduce any ' measure on such a subject, and therefore he repeated he was glad that the Government had taken the Bill into their own hands, and he was glad also that the Irish landlords would be relieved from any imputation which their connexion with the introduction of the measure would be apt to create. He had particularly observed how very cautious the Noble Lord was in speaking of the tenants who had been evicted for arrears of rent. Now, in his (Lord Clanricarde's) experience, he had never known a person so evicted who had not been owing a very large amount of rent. Landlords had been greatly abused for having been concerned in what were called clearances, but in some cases there were eight or ten persons existing on half an acre of land, and it was absolutely necessary to turn out some that the others might live. There might have been indi vidual cases of hardship, but he was perfectly sure that in the great majority of cases landlords were most unjustly accused. He was assured that, as far as this Bill went, it would do little to remedy the evils which had been complained of. The Earl of WICKLOW said that from what he had heard of this measure from time to time, he had certainly expected a great deal from it, but having now had the advantage of hear ing its details from the Noble Lord, he confessed he did not think it would be found of any great benefit to any class in Ireland. It might, however, be possible to effect some im provement in it in its future stages. The Earl of ROSSE said that he thought the House and the country ought to be very much obliged to the Noble Lord for bringing forward the Bill, but there were many provisions in the Bill which were objectionable, and which he would take the opportunity of discussing on the second reading of the Bill. For the reason which he had stated, he would not oppose the first reading of the Bill. it was his intention, if possible, of making the building now in progress fit for occupation next session. Lord BROUGHAM remembered the time when it would not be tolerated in either House that a man should complain of the language used by its Members. Such a proceeding was wholly irregular, and was not allowed in Parliamentary usage. However, whether Mr. Barry's con duct were irregular or not, he would make him a present of the concession that it was perfectly correct ; but as to any asser tion he had made on the promises of that gentleman, he did not mean to retract one word. If a man before a Committee chose to swear that by a certain period a certain work should he completed, he must stand by the imputation that was chosen to be put upon the breach of such a pledge. As to its being said that the opinion was no assurance, why everything de futuro was contingent. The assurance was positive, specific, and understood as such. Like a man who, having obtained small damages, comes and asks for a new trial and then gets smaller, so having not got much before, Mr. Barry should not get much more now. As to the expression that he was the cause of our absence frem the House, the delay of business in another department was the cause; and as Tully had said of the subject of his panegyric, that he was not eloquent but the ideal of oratory itself—as Littleton said of Coke, that he was net only unrivalled in his knowledge of the law, but the name of law itself—so would he say of Mr. Barry, that he was not only dilatory but the personification, the very name of delay. The first plea offered was, that the building should be opened all at once, but now the great consideration was the adorning of the rooms. Mr. Barry considered that he should -suit the convenience of the fine arts, whereas the real object to be suited was the somewhat coarse but necessary art of legisla tion. Mr. Barry was only anxious for the accommodation of the fine arts, and he had an ingenious excuse in submitting to the convenience of the Commission, as Prince Albert was the head of it. For this, it would appear, they were to be incon venienced in legislation. The Marquis of CLAN RICARDE merely rose to say that he agreed in all that his Noble and Learned Friend had said the other evening and that night on the subject. Mr. Barry had given opinions as to the finishing of the building which had been perfectly falsified. At first they had a pledge that, at the end of two years, at least a part of the building should be ready for their accommodation • but now, at the end of eight years, he decli nes g i v i ng any Pledge. He (Lord Clanricarde) would, however, say that any assurance or opinion coming from such a quarter was little to be relied on. The letter which had been read by the Noble and Learned Lord ( Wharncliffe), stated that the works would be pushed on as soon as possible, but it was evident that his (Mr. Barry's) whole proceeding was entirely opposed to this. He had promised the Committee that he would do what he could to facilitate the works, whereas he was engaged in finishing the ornaments and decorations of the towers, instead of attending to that part intended for the pur poses of legislation. Lord CAAIPBELL said he believed that Mr. Barry was a very great architect, and a very honourable man, but there was not the smallest doubt but that he had set at defiance the pledges he had given. He would illustrate his (Lord Camp bell's) opinion on the matter, by reference to the Society of Lincoln's Inn-fields. They lately ordered a new hall to be built, a more important building than the mere chamber which was necessary for their Lordships' use, and though it was only commenced a year and a half ago, it was now perfect, and would be taken possession of next month. He was of opinion, that had the architect of Lincoln's Inn-fields been employed on the Houses of Parliament, whatever differences might have been between the decorations, he was certain there would have been no complaint of this kind brought forward. Several Noble Lords presented petitions against the May nooth Endowment Bill. Earl CHARLEVILLE gave notice that he would, to morrow, move for copies of all correspondence which had taken place between the Irish Government and certain sti pendiary magistrates in the King's County and Tipperary on the subject of a Repeal meeting held in Parsonstown. The 'Marquis of • L ANSDO*NE presented several petitions against the Parochial Settlements Bill, which he thought would never reach their Lordships' House. SMALL DEBTS BILL. Numerous petitions were presented against the Small Debts Bill. Lord BROUGHAM thereupon observed that it would be desirable to give the Commissioners the power of examining the debtor, and getting from him the most thorough explanation. Lord CAMPBELL said this Bill had his full support, but there was one clause in it that was unnecessary. He alluded to the clause which provided that it was unnecessary for a debtor or creditor to employ a solicitor, counsel, or agent. Now that was, he apnrehendesi, wholly unnecessary, unless there were an Act of Parliament requiring debtors and credi tors to employ counsel and solicitors. Any person in a suit might appear in person. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented a petition against the Maynooth grant. PORT PATRICK AND DONAGHADEE. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose to put the ques tion of which he had given notice. He complained of the packet system between Port Patrick and Donaghadee, and of the niggardly manner in which the Government dealt with the packets and these harbours. Whatever work they had com pleted in summer, at the expense of a few paltry hundred pounds, was sure to be carried completely away in winter. If they constructed a packet-station for the sum of 20,0001., it would be a strong inducement to the Belfast Railway Company to carry their project into effect. If they gave such a sum of money as would make these harbours effective, they would pre vail upon that Company to construct their railway, whereby they would create a shorter mode of carrying the mails from the north of England to Belfast, than by any other means what ever. It was a subject of the greatast importance. He hoped he had brought this subject forward in a manner calculated to interest Irishmen and the public generally in its importance; and if the House meant to serve Ireland, they would deal with the proposition with no niggard hand. Lord HADDINGTON said he rose to reply to a question which his Noble Friend intended to put, but which he did not put.—(Laughter.) If the railway which had been thrown out was completed, the remedy which the Noble Lord com plained of, might have been remedied. The Government did not think it right to lay out any large sums of money at Port patrick, in order to carry out the arrangements suggested by the Noble Lord—they had already expended large sums there, and were not inclined at present to expend more. The ves sels engaged in the passage between Portpatrick and Donagha dee were efficient, and the harbour was maintained in a proper condition. The Marquis of NORTHAMPTON did not think the Go vernment should hesitate to lay out a small sum of money to make any arrangement that might facilitate the intercourse be tween the two countries. Nothing should be left undone to promote a better and a kinder feeling between the people of the two countries.—( Hear, hear.) The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH thought the harbour un able to accommodate the packets which left it. After a lew words, the subject dropped. LANDLORD AND TENANT COMMISSION In answer to a questicn from the Earl of DEVON, Lord STANLEY said it was not required that the com plaining tenant sbould g up to Dublin. He would only re. quire to write to the Commissioners, and a subsequent corn numication would be male to the landlord. A NOBLE LORD—Or its agent? Lord STANLEY—Y!s, or his agent. It was a principle in the measure that fullnotice should be given to all parties concerned. Supposing teat the tenant shoul be evicted before the term of his compensation expired, then the Assistant- Commissioner would go to the spot, examine the state of the improvements, and report the same to the Commissioner in Dublin. He will certity whether any future deduction ought to be taken from that tenant for the bad state of the buildings and the drainage, and if rbt, then the tenant shall receive com pensation for the unexpi!ed period of the terms. It might be said that this would bear lard on the landlords, who fiad num bers of small tenants on ;heir estates, and more particularly hard on those who had tenants for life. They proposed, how ever, as he had already stated, to introduce a pro vision allowing the lardlord to withhold certain sums by instalment in order to remunerate himself, the period over which these nstalments extended, to be twenty years. He thought he had now stated in detail the objects of the Government in introducing this measure, and he had brought forward enough, fit thought, to induce their Lordships to give their deliberate judgments to the subject before them. The Bill was most imporktnt, not only to the landlords but The Earl of DEVON said that from the observations which were made, he felt it necessary to say a few words. In the first place, it was a very great mistake to imagine that his Noble Friend was putting this Bill forward as a panacea to cure all the evils which had been brought to light by the inquiry which had taken place. It was intended to cure a particular evil, and to give the tenant the ability to make improvements without any apprehension,—by enabling him to put into use his only capital, namely, himself and son, which he could not now do, as he was afrhid that both himself and son might be turned out. He found that in every part of Ireland there was distinct evi dence that in very large districts that difficulty arose, and that persons who would be competent to make great improvements, were prevented from doing so, from being under that appre hension. Perhaps, a great number had not been immediately turned out, after having made improvements ; but if in any district one was so turned out, the apprehension was so strong that the whole population of the neighbourhood were restrained from making improvements at all. He, therefore, beseeched the House, that when they looked at it clearly, they would consider that they were not now proposing this measure to them as a measure calculated to produce a state of things the best that could be produced; but that they were only endeavouring to apply a practical remedy to that which was a great practical evil.—( Hear, hear.) His Noble Friends in that House might never have had any disposition on their part to turn out te nants without compensation. They knew that such cases had not arisen under their own management ; but they would find out, if they took the trouble to wade through their evidence, that there were many instances in which such had been the case in Ireland. Thus the want of improve ment may arise. Suppose that an estate may be very much sub divided, held by tenants from the original landlord—suppose it to be very much divided into portions of fifteen acres or nine acres, as was very frequently the case, it was out of the ques tion, from the position of the land, no matter what the goodness of his disposition, to expect that the tenant will be able to keep a decent house, to have his cattle well fed, or drain his land, though it may be performed, without much of the landlord's money, by the labour of the tenant. He would ask them to look at the evils that existed. It was not a new question ; it was not brought before them for the first time by the Commis sioners or by her Majesty's Government ; it was a question submitted to the Legislature more than once, twice, or thrice; as it was thought necessary, by statesmen of various opinions, with respect to Ireland, that something should be done in that respect. It was thought requisite that whenever a tenant had expended his capital on any property he should be entitled to some remuneration. It was said that it ought entirely to be left to the voluntary arrangements of the landlord and tenants. ' There were many eases arising in which the landlords could not make any such arrangements. With respect to the machinery he had better say nothing, but there was one point which his Noble Friend referred to respecting the inapplicability of the measure. In the greatest portion of landholdings in Ireland it would be found simple and easy of application. He knew per fectly well that there were many instances in which the land lords in Ireland had been unjustly rebuked, but making full al lowance for the exaggeration that had been applied to the con duct of the landlords, he should allow that the fact was that the tenants were in the most miserable state, and required assist ance and relief, and he hoped that their Lordships would give the measure a most calm and cool consideration. Lord PORTMAN said that he felt the most unqualified and sincere disappointment at the measure of her Majesty's Go vernment. He was the more disappointed, because he hoped that his Noble Friend would be his best ally in carrying out a measure which he (Lord Portman) contemplated for the tenants in England. He was led by his Noble Friend's speech at Liverpool to believe that he would be glad to extend the same measure to the tenants of England as he was willing to extend to the tenants of Ireland. He would be able, in a few days, to bring in a measure for defining, with the aid of a Com mittee, tenants rights, and which would give a remedy both to landlord and tenant, by going before arbitrators, without going to the expense of a court of law.—(Hear.) He did think the Noble Lord's plan was a very expensive mode of carrying out the proposed supervision. Then, again, it was proposed that the maximum sum to be allowed for im provements should be 51. per acre; he did not think that a good mode, or a very safe one, of proceeding, for it approached too near the lee- simple. He thought the better plan would be, to fix the amount upon an average of a certain number of years' rental. The next proposition was, that the expense of levelling fences should be spread over a space of twenty years. He could not approave of that, for the levelling of the fence might cost the landlord 201., which he would pay at once, while the tenant had twenty-five years to pay it. He would not enter into the details of this measure ; and his object in making the few observations he had done, was to show the in applicability of this measure to England. He was ready to admit, that in Ireland the tenantry had a feeling of insecurity as to their holdings; indeed, he had heard of one in stance where an Irish tenant had a lease of eighteen years, yet it contained a clause of surrender every six months, which the landlord was under the necessity of noticing regularly, lest some advantage might be taken of him. This state of insecurity was proposed by this bill to be remedied, not by giving a tenant security, but compensation. He would not detain their Lordships now ; but he would, upon a future occasion, be prepared with a measure which he conceived would be more applicable to England. The Marquis of WESTMEATH would not have risen to say anything upon this subject, but that he would be sorry that observations should go forth to the public which would be dis advantageous to the class he belonged to, if he did not say a few words in explanation. When tie first heard of this mea sure, he felt that it was calculated to interfere with the rights of property, and he was of the same opinion still ; and he did think that many of the statements made before the Commission, as to grievances of tenants, were got up merely for the purpose of affording an excuse fur a revolution in the country ; but upon a calm investigation many of them would be found to have been exaggerated. For instance, he had heard it said that the tenants in Ireland, who may have accu mulated a sum of money, were afraid to let their landlords know it, lest it should be an excuse for demanding an in creased rent. Now, he did not wish that that statement should go forth to the public, and he should say that he never heard of such instance, and therefore it should not go forth un contradicted. Another statement he had heard was, that the improvements were always borne by the tenant, and that also he knew was an exaggeration. With regard to tenants not getting leases, he believed the report contained evidence to the effect that many tenants had declined to take leases. He did think that landlords would rather be inclined to give leases; for in that case, if the tenant declined to pay his rent, the land lord could eject him without much trouble, while, in the former case, they had no such remedy. As to tenants being pressed upon by the landlords in Ireland, and that such a thing was unknown in England, he would contend for it that such should not be stated as a general rule, and he denied the proposition altogether. He did not mean to say that his Noble Friend had made these statements; hut they had been made, and the discussion of them abroad often also in volved a discussion upon the safety of the landlord. The question was then put, and the Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday next. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 9. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack at the usual hour. M AYNOOTH COLLEGE BILL. The Earl of CLANCARTY gave notice that, on the motion for going into Committee on this Bill, he should move that it be committed that day six months. PARTY PROCESSIONS IN IRELAND. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE gave notice that, on Friday, he should present a petition from Leitrim on the state of that county, and that he should put a question to the Government respecting party processions in Ireland. NOTTINGHAM AND LINCOLN RAILWAY. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from the Earl of Chesterfield against this Bill, which was referred to the Com mittee. THE PERTH RAILWAY. The NOBLE and LEARNED LORD presented a petition from Perth and its neighbourhood against this railway passing the Inches. MAYNOOTH. The Earl of FITZ WILLIAM presented a petition from Stourbridge against the Alaynooth grant. Lord BROUG HAN' presented a petition from Bath against the grant to Maynnoth. The LORD CHANCELLOR presented petitions from Car rickfergus and other places in favour of the grant. The Earl of BANDON presented petitions against the grant. Lord KENYON presented similar petitions. MR. BARRY, LORD BROUGHAM, AND THE NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT. Lord WHARNCLIFFE rose to call the attention of the House to what had fallen from his Noble and Learned Friend on Thursday last, respecting the progress that was making in the erection of the new Houses of Parliament. His Noble and Learned Friend, on Thursday last, made some very severe re marks on the architect of the new buildings. His Noble Friend on that occasion said, " I don't regard the as_ surance of Mr. Barry as being so much worth as the paper on which it is written." Now that was an accusation which nd Learned nobodycou Friendldsitc wasietlyunjduestri.fiedHine making d k n in o g t think that his No bl e and such an accusation. He did not think that Mr. Barry had ever suralatnhceeegahs to he the m t ig im ht e t h h a e ve ne g w iv b ee uild a i n ng e s pi w n o in u m ld gbeivefinniashn as surance Again, Mr. Barry had been charged with fencing with the (IRELAND) BILL. Lord STANLEY then rose, and after the presentation of some petitions for ani against the Maynooth grant, said, he would proceed to explain the nature of the Bill, which, on behalf of the Government, he now brought forward, and which would enable them to give compensation for improve ments to tenants in Ireland. As the Bill was of an unusual character, be would, previously to mentioning its provisions, make a statement of the motives which had induced the Go vernment to bring forward a measure of this description. His Noble Friend, whom he did not then see in his place, had expres.ed regret that Ireland had been so often made the battle-field of contending political parties. On 0,, e present occasion, happily, there was no such danger, and whatever the merits of the measure might be, or w' oa.tever difference might exist regarding them, the objects ' - dhich they had in view—the agricultural improvement of 'lreland, and ' raising the condition of the agricultural populat ,on—must hav e their Lordships' unanimous concurrence. he report of the Commission of which his Noble Friend the Earl of Devon) was at the head, if it did not contain, anything striking, it had, at least, the merit of bringing f:Jrward a mass of unsus pected testimony from all parts of the country, which had been analysed and brought to 'near on the most prominent evils which afflicted the c.ountry. The report not only pointed out those evils, I Jut specified remedies for them. —(Hear.) At the con'snencement of that report he found the following passage -—" Whatever difference of opinion may be entertained on otiaer matters, the testimony given was uni form in representing the unimproved state of extensive dis tricts, the want of employment, and the consequent poverty and hardship under which a large portion of the agricultural population continually laboured, and the necessity of providing remunerattae employment as a means of bettering the condition of the people." Any one who knew anything of Ireland must be aware, that between the population of Ireland and the pre , sent means of employment there was a very large dispropor tion. That must be corrected by one of two modes, either by reducing the people to the limits of the means of employment, or increasing the employment so as to make it adequate to the population.—( Hear, hear). The first was supported by those who advocated emigration as a remedy. He did not deny that, under certain circumstances, a system of emigration carried out with prudence, humanity and discretion, might be benefi cial, and place those who remained behind under much more favourable circumstances. But he could not look upon a sys tem of emigration as capable of relieving the general distress, such as at present exi s t e d i n I re l an d. There were great evils and liabilities to abuse in any system of emigration. It should not be compulsory; for if so, it would be tyrannical and op pressive, and, indeed, under the most favourable circumstances, the warm attachment of the Irish peasant to the particular locality in which he was born and reared rendered the most careful system of emigration a pain ful sacrifice of domestic feeling. Besides, they could not with due consideration for their colonial possessions, be content in removing from this country vast masses of labourers, and of labourers only. Even if the State had at its disposal great quant ties of unoccupied land, it was nothing more than removing from their own eyes miseries which they were unwilling to see, out which miseries would be in the colonies much aggravated. They must send capital to employ these labourers, and involve themselves in a great expenditure, even if they had, as he said, unoccupied land at their disposal. That was an expense which this country would not bear. The capital requisite for such a system of emigration, comparing it with the present, would not be less than 2,000,0001. __ They must be careful what class of persons they sent out. If they sent out the able-bodied, active, and industrious, they were depriving the mother country of her strength ; if they sent out the idle, the helpless, the infirm, and the aged, they were only placing them in a much worse position—sanding them to certain destruction. He thought emi gration might be, to a certain extent, relied on, though in Ireland he thought it would not answer. They must, there. fore, take the alternative—increase the employment, so as tei make it adequate to the wants of the population. Although the population was superabundant in many districts of that country he was not prepared to say that Ireland was an over peopled country.—( Hear, hear.) There were vast districts there capable of improvement, of being brought into cultiva tion, and which would occupy a vast quantity of labour. Mr. Griffith, in his report, stated there was, in Ireland, of unoccupied waste land, capable of being brought into tillage, 1,300,000 acres, and 2,400,000 acres which might be provided for pasturage, so that there were at present in Ireland 3,700,000 acres of land which might be reclaimed. Much of that land, too, which would be productive of crops, that would amply re munerate the agriculturists. The produce per acre of land in Ireland as compared with England did not amount to half the value, although double the amount of labourers were employed upon the Iri , h land. In England there were cultivated 34,"54,000 acres, in Ireland 14,603,000 acres. The produce in England was 41. 7s. 6d. per acre, in Ireland 21. 9.. 3d. There were employed in Ireland 100,000 more labourers on the 14,000,000 of acres than in England with its 34,000,000. He might thereupon safely say, that in Ireland they did net want space. What they wanted was capital for the employment of labourers.—(Hea:, hear.) That capital could only come from three sources—from the State, from the landlord, or from the occupying tenant. He did not undervalue the improvements which had been effected by the State. Great and valuable alterations had been effected in this country by his Noble Friend opposit e , w h en at the head of the Woods and Forests, and which had b een prof i table to the Crown, and to the country, by expending pablic money i n bringing into caltivatin CANAL TOLLS BILL. Lord HATHERTON moved that the Canal Company's Tolls Bill be read a second time, which was agreed to ; as was also the second reading of the Carriers' Bill. BASTARDY CLAUSES AMENDMENT BILL. The Earl of RADNOR proposed the second reading of the Bastardy Clauses Amendment Bill, and contended that the state of the law at present, as it affected the parents of bastard chil dren, was very defective, and required considerable amendment. He thought the law as it now stood ought to be altered. The principles of the English law allowed no case in which a person could be called upon to give evidence in their own case. By the present bastardy law, however, a woman might be called to give evidence in her own case. Formerly, in a bastardy case, the woman was the witness of the parish. Under the present law a woman might go before a police magistrate, and swear that she was pregnant with a bastard child. The magistrate was compelled to issue a summons, which was made re turnable at a period subsequent to the woman's recovery from her lying-in. Now what powers of extortion did this give to a woman. On these grounds he thought the present law ought to be altered. The Noble Earl concluded by moving the second reading of the Bill. Lord WH ARNCLIFFE opposed the Bill. He thought it was too soon to judge of the operation of the present law see ing thatithe Act only passed last year: The system which was in existence before the passing of the Poor Law Amendment Act was fraught with evils. When a woman found herself with child the parish officers were set at her and at the man who was the supposed father, and the most improper proceedings took place in order to induce a marriage between the parties. At that time a woman had nothing to do but to go before two justices of the peace in petty sessions, and swear A. B. was the father of her bastard child, and the order was made at once as a matter of course. The remedy subsequently adopted, in 1843, was the seizure of goods and the stoppage of the man's wages ; but in the former case there were frequently no goods to seize, and in the latter few, if any, masters could be found who would render them selves obnoxious by stopping the wages of the operative for a crime wholly unconnected with themselves or their contract. Finally, the new law was introduced, by which the putative father, on sufficient evidence before a magistrate, was compelled to provide for the subsistence of the child ; and as that was but an experiment of a year's existence, be believed any repeal of it would not only be premature, but unwise and unsafe. The Earl of CARNARVON concurred with his Noble Friend (Lord Wharncliffe) in stating that such sudden and rapid changes in the law were calculated to bring the Legis lature into disrepute. The state of the law, previous to the introduction of the existing statute, was certainly unsatisfac tory ; while the burden of punishment was imposed to its full on the weaker vessel, the crime of the stronger, and, too often guiltier, party was virtually connived at. Last year, however, these anomalies had been removed ; and, trusting that the remedy proposed would prove successful, he should oppose any measure which would interfere with its fair working. The Earl of RADNOR still considered that the existing law held out a premium to perjury, and that he had shown amply sufficient grounds to warrant a change in its provisions. The amendment was then lout and agreed to, and tke House adjourned at Ten o'clock. A deputation from Liverpool', consisting of Lord Sandon, Mr. Henry Cleaver Chapman, an d Mr. Bold, had art interview with Sir George Clerk yesterday at the office of the Board of Trade, on the subject of idle MerchVit. Seamen's Fund Bill. PARLIAMEN TAIt Y DIVISION S. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the house of Commens.) MONDAY, JUNE 9. BANKING (IRELAND) BILL.—(IN THE COMMITTEE.) First Clause Mettrietion on Bankers by Act 21 and 22 Geo. ITT (Ireland) repealed) :—That from and after the sixth day of Decem her, one thousand eight hundred and forty-five, so much of the said recited Act as prohibits any body politic or corporate other than the Batik tif Ireland, or for any other persons whatsoever, united or to be united in COVentints or partnership, exceeding the number of six persons, to borrow, oWe, or take up auy sum or sums of money on their Bills or Notes, payable on demand, or at any less time than six months front the borrowing thereof, shall be and the same is hereby repealed :--Amendment proposed, page 6, line 5, after the words " borrowing thereof," to insert the words, " and also so much of the said recited Act of seventh and eighth of her Majesty as prohibits, after the passmg of that Act, any other person than a Banker, who on the sixth day of May, one thousand eight hundred and forty-four. was lawfully issuing his own Bank notes, should make or issue Bank notes in any part of the United Kingdom, as far as same may be held to include In its enac:ments said Hibernian Joint Stock Company and said /toy - al Bank :"—Question put, " That those words be there in serted." The Committee divided : MINORITY-AYES, 43. Bannerman, A. Hastie, Archibald Plumptre, J. P. Bateson, Thomas Dawes, Benjamin Rawdon, Colonel Bellew, R. M. Horsinan. Edward Rice, E. R. Blake, M. J. Johnson, General Roche, E. B. Blewitt, R. J. Jones, Captain Ross, 1). R. Chapman, B. Maher, N. Somers, J. P. Clements, Viscount Manic, Fox Stewart, P. M. Connolly, Colonel Morris, David Stuart, W. V. Crawford, W. 5. Muntz, G. F. Trelawny, J. S. Dawson, T. V. Murray, Alexander Wawn, J. T.; Dennistoun, J. Napier, Sir C. Wyse, Thomas Duncan, George Newdegate, C. N F,smonde, Sir T. O'Connell, M. J. Ferguson, Sir R. A. O'Conor, Don French, F. O'Ferrall, R. M. Gore, Robert Oswald, James TELLERS. Somerville, Sir W. lledington, T. N. MAJORITY-NOES, 103. Acton, Colonel Denison, E. B. Mackenzie, W. F. Arkwright, George Dickinson, F. 11. ➢]:`Neill, Duncan Bailey, Joseph Ent wisle, William Manners, Lord C. S. Bailey, J., jun. Fitzroy, Henry Martin, C. W. Baillie, Colonel Flower, Sir James Masterman, Jahn Baillie, H. J. Fremantle, Sir T. Meynell, Captain Banieby, John Gaskell, J. M. Nicholl, John Baskervillc, T. B. Gladstone, Captain Palmer, George Beckett, William Wynne, Sir S. Patten, J. W. Bernard, Viscount Gordon, Captain Peel, Sir Robert Boldero, 11. G. Gore, Montague Peel, Jonathan llotfleld, Beriah Goulburn, Henry Polhill, Frederick Bowles, Admiral Graham, Sir J. Pringle, Alexander Boyd, John Grimsditch, T. Round, C. G. Bramston, T. W. Grimston, Viscount Seymour, Sir 11. Broadley, 11. Hale, R. B. Smith, T. B. C. Brotherton, Joseph Ilamilton, C. J. B. Smyth, Sir H. Bruce, Lord E. Hamilton, W. J. Somes, Joseph Bruges, W. H. L. Hampden, Renn Sotheron, T. 11. Buckley, Edmund Hatton, Captain Stuart, Henry Cardwell, Edward Hayes, Sir Edmund Tennent, J. E. Carew, W. li. P. Heneage, G. H. Thesiger, Sir F. Chapman, Aaron Hepburn, Sir T. Thornhill, George Clay, Sir W. Ilerbert, Sidney Trench, Sir F. W. Clerk, Sir George Hope, G. W. Vivian, J. Ennis Clive, R. H. Hughes, W. B. • Waddington, IL S. Codrington, Sir W. Hutt, William Warburton, Henry Cole, H. A. Ingestrie, Viscount Wellesley, Lord C. Collett, John Jocelyn, Viscount Williams, W. Copeland, Alderman Kirk, Peter Wood, Charles Corry, Henry Kni;ht, F. W. Wortley, John S. Courtenay, Lord Letroy, Anthony Cripps, William Lincoln, Earl of TELLERS. Darner, Colonel Lockhart, W. Young, John Darby, George Lygon, General Sutton, 11. M. Deedei, William Mackenzie, T. PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS. MONDAY, JUNE 9. The Eastern Counties Railway (Cambridge and Bury St. Edmund's Extension) Bill, was presented and read a first time. The following Bills were reported, and the report referred to the Select Committee on Standing Orders : Middlesbro' and Redcar Railway. Taff Vale Railway. The following Bills were read a third time, and passed : Newcastle and Berwick Railway. Trent Valley Railway. Belfast and Ballymena Railway. Brighton, Lewes, and Hastings Railway (Keymer Branch). NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE,. Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway,—An amend ment to be proposed, on consideration of report, Tuesday, June 10. Select Committee on Group (R) adjourned till Wednes day June 11, at twelve. Epping Railway,—Committee on petition, Wednesday, June 11. Scottish Midland Junction Railway,—Report, Wednesday, June 11. Bridgwater Navigation and Railway,—Third reading, Wednesday, June 11. Chester and Birkenhead Railway,—Report, Wednesday, June 11. Newcastle and Berwick Railway,—Third reading, Wed nesday, June 11. Taw Vale Railway,—Report to be considered, Wednesday, June 11. Manchester and Birmingham (Ashton Branch) Railway,— Report, Wednesday, June 11. .Newport and Ponty Pool Railway,—Report, We dnesday June 11. Lynn and Dereham Railway,—Report, Wednesday, June 11. Waterford and Limerick Railway,—Report, Wednesday, June 11. Ashton, Stalybridge, and Liverpool Junction (Ardwick and Guide-bridge Branches) Railway,—Report, Wednesday, June 11. London and Brighton (Horsham Branch) Railway,—Re port, Wednesday, June 11. London and "Brighton ( Wandsworth Branch) Railway,— Second reading, Friday, June 13. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE_ TATTERSALL'S—YESTERDAY. In the course of a long dull afternoon all the principal betting races at Ascot, the St. Leger, Northumberland Plate and Derby were brought into the market, and a few horses backed for each ; the transactions, however, were so trivial, and their results so generally unimportant, that with out compromising our duty we may content ourselves with a simple quotation of the latest prices : THE QUEEN'S VASE— ASCOT. 2 to 1 agst Mr. A. W. Hill's lot 3 to 1 agst Mr. Salvin's Alice Hawthorn 7 to 2 agst Mr. Hill's Sweetmeat 7 to 2 agst Mr. Parry's Zanoni—taken 7 to 1 agst Mr. Hill's lromnaster THE ASCOT STAKES.—(FIRST CLASS). 9 to 2 agst Mr. Meikiam's Inheritress 5 to 1 agst Mr. Worley's Perkin Warbeck 5 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's Best Bower 8 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Wee Pet 10 to 1 agst Lord Warwick's Yardley. lonian is declared not to start. THE ASCOT STAKES.—(SECOND CLASS). 3 to 1 agst Mr. A. Johnstone's Annandale—taken 5 to 1 agst Sir S. Spry's Subduer 7 to 1 agst Mr. Shelley's Lydia Languish 8 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Poor Soldier. THE EMPEROR'S CUP. 5 to 4 on Alice Hawthorn and Faugh-a-ballagh 5 to 4 agst Mr. Irwin's Faugh- a-ballagh—taken 5 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's Cowl 8 to 1 agst Lord Albemarle's The Emperor—taken. NORTHUMBERLAND PLATE. 12 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Godfrey—taken. 15 to 1 agst Mr. D. Cooke's What 15 to 1 agst Mr. Parker's Northumberland THE ST. LEGER. 10 to 1 agst Mr. A. Johnstone's Annandale 12 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Old England 15 to 1 agst Lord Stradbroke's Idas—taken 20 to 1 agst Mr. Irwin's The Baron 20 to 1 agst Mr. Worley's John Davis THE DERBY. 45 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's Sombrero—taken 45 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Tug Net—taken 45 to 1 agst Mr. Forth's Sting—taken 50 to 1 agst Mr. John Day's Camboules—taken 50 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's Hoorrah—taken. 50 to 1 agst Gen. Shubrick's Brocardo The celebrated steeple-chaser Discount was sold yesterday, at Tattersall's, for 820 guineas. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Stir,—Never were the prophets of the turf so far on the wrong scent before as they were for the Oaks, not one sup posing that the winner had the shadow of a chance. From what I heard on the Wednesday previous, I thought it was very doubtful whether Refraction or the Rose of Cashmere started, especially as the hackers of the stable were, for the most part, "on " Miss Elis and Longitude. The favourite cut a queer figure, going anyhow, making little or no effort. lam pretty well convinced that had she been quite up to the mark she could and would have won easily. Miss Sarah, Lady Wildair, and Glee ran respectably, and must not be lost sight of. The sport at Ascot, this week, will be first rate ; for amount and quality it will surpass any previous meeting. The late rains have been of great service to the Course which is in capital condition at the present time. Nearly all the horses expected have arrived, the number exceeding seven score. The meeting opens on Tuesday with the Trial Stakes, which. being a mile, will suit Semiseria, the Knight of the Whistle playing second fiddle. The Welcome Stakes have Refraction, Turquoise colts, and Old England among the entries, the first, with a penalty of 61bs. extra, and the latter two with 31bs. The best of the three, to all appearance, is Old England, whom I name as the victor, Refraction or the Colt second. The Ascot Derby Stakes I leave to Idas, with Salopian second. The Gold Vase will bring about eight to the post, includ ing Alice, Zanoni, Delapre, Wood Pigeon, and Sweetmeat. The first and last named will furnish the winner. The Ascot Stakes, First Class, will doubtless furnish a very good field. Perkin Warbeck, Inheritress, Boarding school Miss, and Best Bower are the best " in." Considering their respective powers, I shall look to the first three to pro duce the first and second. The Ascot Stakes, Second Class, will bring out, among others, the following three: Annandale, Vol-au-vent, and I-am-not-aware, whom I expect to see pass the chair in the order I have placed them. The 200 Sovs. Sweepstakes to the Cobweb colt. The Match between Subscription and Collingwuod to the former. On Wednesday, the Coronation Stakes to Lord Exeter, Stitch second. The 50 Sovs. Stakes to Mr. Herbert. The 50 Sovs. Sweepstakes for three yrs old will have Idas for winner. The Great Ascot Produce Stakes will produce nothing more than a canter for the first three year old of the day, Cowl; Winchilsea second. The Royal Hunt Cup will bring about twenty to the post; and from the following three, Evening, Semisena, and Knight of the Whistle, I shall leave my readers to pick the winner. The Fern-hill Stakes will fall to the lot of the Napoleon of the Turf, with Cherokee, Buttress second. The Albany Stakes to the miniature mare Lady Wildair, or the Turquoise colt. The Windsor Town Plate to Wild Roe or Physalis. On Thursday, the grand day, the Emperor's Plate, a noble gift, will be contested for by a small " crack" field, consisting in all probability of the following :—Cowl, Alice Hawthorn, The Emperor, Antler, Khondooz, Turquoise colt, Kedger, Woed Pigeon, Faugh-a-ballagh, and Sorella; out of these Antler, Khondooz, and Wood Pigeon can stand ni. possible chance; Sorella and Kedger might, were the course little shorter; the Turquoise colt's chance will be nearl? , annihilated, by his running on the two previous clays . , but if he cemes tolerably fresh to the post, he will 011111114. The Emperor stands a chance, b e ing quite fresh ; Tad Mare's pretensions will be settled by the running for the VISe, but, as the course is long, I consider h er to be the best con of" any ; Faugh-a-btllagh he ought to 's chance is a very good one, sidering, his long rest and his capital condition, t s Stable, he there or thereabouts; Cowl, the gem of Kent will not disgrace his illustrious parentage, he will prove to ect, fly Lord George that, as a good monk- and faithfu l subj he will present the Imperial Cup to the Emperor of the Turf. In conclusion, I expect to see Cowl f irst, Alice second, and Emperor and Faugh-a-ballagh well up. The New Stakes will bring a tidy field together, a score or -nearly. Among them will be seen the Princeoa Alice, Sting. Rint filly, Buttress, Jubilee colt, Cherry-bounce, Pyrrha, and Astonishment ; and much to my astonishment will it be,if tbe four first named do not appear as the foremost rank ea Thursday next—Sting or the Princess Alice for winner. The Visitor's Plate, to Mr. Hill. 100 sows. Sweepstakes, to Tunick. The St. James's Palace Stakes, to Idas. The Swillley Stakes, to Sweetmeat or Annandale. rn. Her Majesty's Plate, to Alamode or Alice H ether. tho On Friday, the 300 sows. Sweepstakes, tPa The Chesterfield akes, to Kedger. The Borough Members' Plate will produce a pretty race between Physalis, Wild Roe, and Rob in Hood, the forraer for choice. The Brigade Stakes, to Scarmetado; an d with thi s race ends one of the most brilliant meetings that Ascot ever them. s 5 M r. eb The acceptances for the Northumb erland Ple, at at, strang e castle, amount in number to thirty - t hree. at if 11am. lot are very nicely weighed, and it wil l be very does not manage to pull through with some of I am, Sir, yours, Ice. Monday afternoon. THE SP IRIT OF THE TURF. COURT CiiiCULAft• their gcgatl. The Queen and Prince Albert, accompanied by .big Highnesses the Duke and Duchess de Nemours, an,d_ i by tho rene Highness the Prince of Leiningen, and attenn e u, the Countess of Gainsborough, Hon. Misses Paget and.lree. o r Marquis of Ormonde, Colonel Berkeley DrumolepaL., palace louel Grey and Sir Edward Bowater, left Bwebier;3oo, for at six minutes past three o'clock, yesterdaY a, B o rel de Windsor Castle. La Baronne de Finguerlin ad pl ows de Bretizel were in attendance on the Duke end Nemours. 0 th eir eef' Her Majesty and Prince Albert were conducted t the Hon e riage by the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of ; 1 : r G e orge the Vice-Chamberlain, Lord George Lennost a nd Anson. Prince Alfred. Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales, the pisce, the Princess Royal, and the Princess Alice, le ft s short pike accompanied by the Dowager Lady Lytteltontt /4 041; previous to her Majesty, for the railway termille e rece a e dod Mo e Her Majesty and the Illustrious party also P,rigeoes• the terminus, escorted by a party of the 4 th Light 1.40 t of whole of the royal party then left by a W el Great Western Railway for the Slough se' WINDSOR, MONDAY.—Her Majesty and Pr iPee d D geb e ke e nd f o ot companied by their Royal Highnesses the Du : nt s b a tattoo. Al Albert, de Nemours, arrived at the Castle at tett { O M , escort los o'clock this afternoon in a carriage and fou i r A ' Liet,lthe party of the Royal Horse Guards, comma ue", by a the Cust, from the Slough station. Their Roy al RPoyah sod Prince of Wales, Prince Alfred, the Princess Lid] Litt to Princess Alice, accompanied by the Dowager iiigbelio. were in the next carriag ur e and four. His ~Se _ r° „ bos roug h 'orlie' Prince of Leiningen, the Countess of a' ° -de Miss Paget, Hon. Miss Liddell, the Barell- t e 00 0 id O . the Marquis of Ormonde. Colonel Berkeley-11004 "- Colonel Gray, Major-General Sir Edward Bops .I;ebtieg Borel de Bretizel, were in the following ear rili . g ,,ed , Her Majesty and Prince Albert were ree . „ e 'i w id. A l'ol o. from their carriage by the Master of the 1011:"" goo The royal standard was displayed from 1 " A plebe' immediately on the Queen's arrival. nuke en iberg le l His Excellency Count de St. Aulaire, t he Earl of o hs° of Bedford, the Duchess of Buccleuch, t he tep Oeerf the Earl of Liverpool, the Earl and CePierseP Lady Mary Sackville West, the Earl 0 1 " it the ; Wheatley, and Lord George Lennox, arr• l oje d 1/ ttal ge day on a visit to her Majesty. t atte i ed t 1 ;1. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of ICeP: e r, O r it Anna Maria Dawson and Sir George C°4,_ad fours residence, Frogmore Lodge, in a carriage tp-- past six o'clock, from town. A lbe rt se, :bo b. In the afternoon her Majesty and Frith a p 'di ' illustrious guests, the Duke and Duches d e „, grc' Prince of Leiningen, walked in the Ple ag—e i r 0 6 Castle. eve niA., i tte The royal dinner party at the Castle titt i l eo t, 1. 1 4. W l ' dude her Royal Highness the Duchess ef the 1 " Maria Dawson, and Mr. George Edward, " Anson. Du il ch er es A s l o aj f estythe Queen Dowager Paid 411° the Piel t° Cambridge, at Cambridge ' 1 y„te bor T e h u e gi D , uHcohuesses,oyfesterdnatyv.isited the . Q ll ue °elstem-nn. wigeb at °III. ves tarasi' DukedpfsoaaurynTT::Khhdrfeeaaeomyrw and Duchess of Cambridge • st o l'tf D a l Fv u reoo e nf h ili e t:N s s o r e o . f Kent, Dawson, left Clarence -House at half-pm t 0 a 9' 4 The Duke of Cambridge visited the Duchess ..._aae, Mr. 1 1 11' 01 1 The Duke angdainDkiuncgliewssitdhe aNernours honoured whoa' A er e H x i t g r h em ne e ss a e p s p r r e o m ba a t i i n o e n d o a f tchoenpsiidoeturvairbesi.lte tiYraeste,eandltP:;;ith ;001 Mr. Willoughby Shortland bad an intervte of tbf Stanley, at the Colonial-office, yesterday. e ellor o r o r Mr. Wickham had an interview with the Chen pool, s Exchequer yesterday, at his official resideocewlijb the street. Mr. Freshfield had also an inter /W I Ole Hon. Gentleman. C 0 10014 1, 1, Dispatches were received yesterday at the t wo"' from the Governor of Malta, and the Lord Nig h - A Pr' of the lonian Islands. : fav ieW I"- A, Mr. Brown, from New Zealand, had and-i j r, Stanley yesterday. %CO P had Lo a r l d so A a r n bu in t t h e n rview with ti...___.._......)........ 0t had an ineterview with Lo rd fill houie yesterday, at the Board of Trade. Noble Earl. I.L. WO ' s THE r OLIS H. Bs'- - to he ged ' wide The following is the programme of the to _ II 0 0,1 1 , Willis's Rooms, on Friday nest , the 13th instatits ' the ei° by the lady patronesses : " srore II A s The lady patronesses to appear in the d re ss e s Majesty's ball. , to d ° , ll °° o "' The lady patronesses and the ladies Who .- -e a ,,., to I - is o Minuets, the Strathspey, and the Powder Quadr ... Ale* in the tea-room at ten o'clock. 0 444. ce The ladies belonging to the Polish, the me .. .,0,., the Mazurka, to rendezvous in the card-romoooo op , JP reenTjaassembled, following order:— of t "' The lady patronesses, two and two, in the or der t ill a t rihacedh ladies eosn u e c bs h es e l o s o s nf ape tbe direction of m nt b e l r ed t , h e t hbeildirroor s ni t: i b n e proccoiloOsi re The ladies belonging to the Minuets, lie- -- f ew :cmhseee. soon ladies, aL all ab o e v r e e , und er the di ore tion of the Lady The ladies belonging to the Strathsp e y' th f James g ß o i f r n e g ß a d t e so a d t l u f t b . o ha a r re n d t e . . the Dl , Und er r Q:addrriilitieei, Under ..4; The ladies belonging to the Polish Qu e ~,o tion of the Lady Caroline Sanford. eu d et' 4 0 of The ladies belonging to the Lance Quadrille, tfir ey ' of Viscountess Palork,rston. unde r the e °l P ti° 1 The ladies belonging to the Mazurka, iieb 1 0 the Hon. Mrs. George Dawson Damen ~, the r° talt e ifte r Whilst the procession is entering the rol-',,:e, hal o , Anthem will be played. As soon as the la"' w oe. . seats, a Polonaise will be danced by the ladY 14.h0e. wards the dances w 221 be darired in the lell4'. of _ A liti ! ----- ..,411 _,44 , 40 ------„ __JAl'''. pr u `:, ors cy .a Tit E PRIVILEGE QUESTION ~„, v iiis .4 , ~all.. EXECUTION.—On Saturday last the plaintlif ur o t oe_`; ‘ , to ;01!, sign final judgment, and tax his costs, accordlteoggiddipt, i i e v oi e; of the Court, took out a writ offierliad,4s,,in,.4o Irlio,ot-Atiji,ti?ri him also to issue a writ of testatum 'Zen .'" sa . litil to o_4 county the defendant, Sir William Gossett, lbileour oll:dorsetireel`;. the House of Commons, resided. At A lat e f I,:cot, otech_Ape,,c; writ was lodged in the office of the Sheriff e ..t „ t o gr fire,- 17,-,01,0 1221. 55., besides, &c., upon which it AvAr.a.".n Ool f t lie "04. to the officer in the district of Sir again ap t ~ o f .0 Charlton-rrove, Blackheath. Soon after tile alsoliowartt4otai l'd Mr. Morris, the officer, proceeded with Yr. at fit, 1 10 _ , 11 .) ,% f e,i L 1 the auisn p t l , a , i ,tui l l t ro i s tr, ietn t ici o ics. r e u x is e iui c ta u i litieroittue.rds course; lie :gel s c i t n o g i . 7 aele I'iSi4ealvlio, 7051:0000,10 lie frthieeinidillic; ii s e ir , ;,,,... p bei i o '' fi l et he of a piece of furniture, upon which e handed him over the amount of the levY, Wlloellilogisr° Y ,1 hands of the Sheriff this morning, the writ ei to gr. `" l oll; able forthwith. The amount was paid Oyl er . ~,,,. P I 0 a Sheriff, who thus relieves himself of they Mt .„,...."1 P. h ole e 0 0 THE GRAND CALEDONIAN 13 1 "g le ilonis 1 0; ball, given in aid of the funds of th e s le st 11 ~,, Roc ° Scottish Hospital, took place at Willis's Ong . ro prldS. in all respects truly magnificent and gra titl The P e ngsr i for , MASKED BALL AT VAUXLIAI•I"---,,„ of ih e i sti'e.b . , l a Vauxhall Gardens have taken adrenteb.'i, pree d obi' . , of AL Musard at their establishment to hi' tbe first .. ., % , o i4 series of grand masked balls al /re 5ct7e1614,1115;0,4, :fc,t; understand, wilt take place on MondaY. - i 'Ale ,01`: 10 0.: or A grand review of the Seco7.3d, o'4 C.. u , a t ter. take place on Wimbledon-common on t a il. , !., b y trptit, COW - t o atter which the reginiont will be cnter.t,,;eo t1!,4,0:ed to Marquis of Londonderry. His lit 11 - ‘. l l igio seat i ji fil° bridge, Prince George, the Marqu is f ' SO mere, and the stall of the Horse Guard' ' oro , banquet. -- ---------- .0 ( 1 0°' On the sth inst., lijirvit poll dprol, J. 5. ° f-. 10 1° Benjamin B. Greene, of a daughter. _,ip 0 e the r Ws' 1 - s On the sth inst., at Highgat , t P a" fi ii Esq., of a son. treet,L •ver ifs ° On the sth inst., at Catherine-sire he I de, t sod ° E. Warden, of a son. at Woburn -place, Lea ° Ali On the 6th inst., at the Vicarage, of dj oo Rev. Charles Hebert, of a daughter. the 101 Off On the 6th just., at Kennington, r 15".' 1114 Sangster, Esq., of a daughter. ~0 , ., Carte , Ari fi On the 6th inst., the lady of 0 ..) . _":00. lads 0/0. too Dorset-street, Portnian-square, ' t the COP On the 25th of May, at ice're Upper 1 ° Esq., of a son and heir. On the sth inst., Mrs. Frederick George, of a dauje_t..e'cbevaltel (CO OP On the 6th inst., at Ipswich, Dir . 0 lag a , be daughter. h-st reat' t bl ° On the 6th inst., in Weyrnout It, at Buccleu/h-..t.errac_. ..cobbold, io , per OO t df ca R.OFnretehlein6gt,hEiseqs.t,.,oifna Ksoeno.t_terrac,„, Regent'? ticil" the ' a Pyke, of a daughter. ode °, G. On the 7th inst., at Spring -g V. Bovill, Esq., of a son• the S e ed „mitsfAl/:_ roror.,z_bet .. d Chureu,.,,i k .. ,b ..t„,,,,11.; daughter OO n nt t h h e e o 4 sf t t l lt i ihi i en n s s ltt t .e . , . va a .t tfiDl..iiipritgafoarri_er ~co,itlantitirgebbbl : ,e t izr o: o;: i s e,. (5V.0,....0, 7,t Dawson, Rector of Woodleigu, f 006510'. I,ol,l',fleyfr Charlotte Elizabeth, yrintoungest " p ji tt of Killigar House, - o n, ,il , i s a t ri.,a t g. ' e r d ic 6 l l ) . E ° 7 l. : Of .... , jot , vao - A . 0, Ic' ge o, d at madras , fee se seo . On the '24th of April, It 1) " i Madras Infantry. t the Pct' ptoo , t Bevr'" " ' - 'tha t° 8 1 ' 6 . On the Bth of ,liay, a - c sot. a ed Or , te i ' d 'Odg et A Of StrQe'' hfi Agee' 41' On the sth inst., at Will . n.an - t -- if ' rf, ~., , .r. ~. 0- • _lop , Co ged 47. f COh? o_ 00 d of LO O Tt n i) ettillE°3:3lle inst., T. Story', r On the 6th inst., at Cadog an P`' Esq , aged 10. , icing, . Sling, , S T . t oexp%n,hoetordie,,s6otl solicitor, iit:srt,:ii . Brett . r„. ,ince, 3is a x 14/l Adl e" ‘',u e ' 11 . 11- fsl3 On th- 6tli in,,t, , at 1,,"`;,,0,:i., o f L daughter of the late Rev. C. v __- $(1 , , 115 i 7 1 ,00 , 1 - 0010'0011' .•:".; ion , ,hd VIAI) oop is the 12, iy-ran I. ' Stran,:l, in the Precinct of tti?.;;. BLiddlesoc, Tuesday, aut o 101 Ci -Rt 14 tr 41 ' 1 41, 2 - viN 14/1, Nt e 101 T 1 0% Oki Lt Ao /rZbi