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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 27. Their Lordships assembled at Five o'clock. SCOTCH BANKING. The Dake of RICHMOND presented a petition from the town council, bankers, merchants, and inhabitants of Dingwall, in Ross, against any alteration in the Scotch banking system. LANDLORD AND TENANT BILL. The Marquis of NORMANBY presented a petition from the gtvardians of the parish of Kilrush in favour of what they consider a good landlord and tenant Bill. LAW TN THE ISLE OF MAN. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from John Walters Caldecott, complaining that he had been imprisoned for eight months in the Castle Rusbington in the Isle of Man, because he had been unable to procure surety in 1001. for his good be haviour. It appeared that he had assaulted his wife, and had been committed to prison until he could procure bail in that amount. The petition prayed for inquiry, as he bad been committed to prison without having been heard. The LORD CHANCELLOR said inquiry had been made, not only by himself, but his Hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department, and it appeared that the petitioner, after committing a rape on his daughter, assaulted his wife, for which he was committed to prison in default of bail. He understood that he had been confined for eight months for debt. Lord BROUGHAM knew nothing whatever of the peti tioner who had sent him the petition to present to their Lordships. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he was informed that the proceedings were strictly in accordance with the law of the Isle of Man. If the law was bad, their Lordships might amend it. Lord BROUGHAM said it was contrary to common sense that a man should be imprisoned without being heard. The LORD CHANCELLOR repeated that the most anx ious inquiry had been made, and that the course adopted was quite in accordance with the law of the land. Lord CAMPBELL said the petition ought to have appealed to the proper tribunal, which would have afforded him redress. If the law of the Isle of Man authorised the authorities to im prison a man for eight months, without allowing him to be heard in his defence, the sooner it was altered the better. UNIFORM RAILWAY GAUGE. Lord REDESDALE wished to ask the Noble Lord at the head of the Board of Trade when the Commission for the selec tion of the uniform railway gauge would be appointed, and how soon their report would be given in? The Earl of DALHOUSIE said that steps had already been taken by the Government to appoint the Commission, but he was unable to say when the report would be ready. Lord CAMPBELL gave notice that he would put a ques tion to the Noble Earl, on Monday next, relative to railway companies buying up competing lines, and thereby creating monopolies. The Marquis of NORMANBY presented a petition from the Legislative Council of New South \Voles, praying for an alteration in the sth and 6th Victoria, relative to the disposal of land in that colony. RAILWAY BUSINESS. Lord BROUGHAM moved the adoption of the three resolu tions of the Select Committee appointed by their Lordships for the devising the most effective means to get through the rail way business.—Agreed to. RIO DE LA PLATA. _ _ The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from the merchants, bankers, traders, and manufacturers of Liverpool, praying for the free navigation of the River Plate. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition to the same effect from Manchester, most numerously and respectably signed. The Earl of ABERDEEN would be most happy to con tbute all the aid in his power to the opening of the Rl° de la Plata, or any other river, but it was not so easy a matter as the petitioners seemed to think to open a navigation which had been closed by the lawful authorities. He admitted that it was cf immense importance, that the river should be opened, and he was not without hopes that it shortly would be. Government were engaged in endeavouring to restore peace in the Rio de la Plata, and he had no doubt the result of the negotiation would be a considerable exteosion of our commerce in those regions. After a few observations from Lord ASHBURTON and Lord BROUGHAM, the petitions were ordered to lie on the table. The subject then dropped. _ RAILWAYS. A message was brought up from the House of Commons, requesting a copy of the report of the Select Committee, ap pointed by their Lordships to- inquire into the state of rail way business before Parliament. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, a reply would be sent to the House of Commons by the messengers of that House. BUSINESS BEFORE THE PRIVY COUNCIL. Lord BROUGHAM moved for a return of the railway bu siness before the Privy Council, wtich, after a few words from Lord Campbell, was acceded to, and ordered to be printed. DESECRATION OF THE SABBATH _ _ . The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented a number of petitions from clergymen and others in various parts of Scotland, praying that steps might be taken for en forcing the better observance of the Sabbath, by preventing the running of railway trains and mail-coaches, and by pre venting the sale of spirituous liquors on that day. He would also take the opportunity of giving notice that, on Tuesday next, he wQuid present a petition from the General Assembly of the Free Church of Scotland respecting the sites of property for building churches. RAILWAYS. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE presented a petition from Sir Percival Bank=, Bart., praying for the interference of their L or d s h ii s t o prevent a pro j ecte d ra il way f rom passing near his property in Kent. While he was on the subject of railways he would ask the Noble Lord when he intended to bring forward the resolutions which he had on the minutes of the House respecting railways? Lord BROUGHAM was anxious to bring them forward as soon as possible. He hoped to be able to do so on Monday After a few words from the Earls of Wicklow and Devon, and Lords Redesdale and Camoys, the Noble Lord ultimately arranged to bring them forward on Thursday next. TURNPIKE TOLLS. The Duke of RICHMOND moved the third reading of this Bill. The Earl of ROSEBERRY moved as an amendment, that the operation of the Bill be postponed till the 3d of April, 1847. After a short discussion, the amendment was withdrawn, and the Bill was passed. DRAINAGE OF ENTAILED ESTATES. The Duke of RICHMOND laid upon their Lordships' table the report of the Select Committee appointed to inquire into the necessity for charging entailed estates for the pur pose of drainage, and moved that it be printed. The Noble Duke also introduced a Bill for carrying out the recommenda tion of the Committee, which was read a first time, and or dered to be read a second time that day week. ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS CONSOLIDATION BILL The Earl of SHAFTESBURY. brought up the report of the Select Committee to whom this Bill had been referred. The Bishop of LONDON, as one of the Committee, begged to be understood, that he neither approved of either the prin ciple or the details of the Bill. He had very considerable doubts as to the expediency of the measure. Lord COTTENHAM said the principle of the Bill had not only been approved of by both Houses of Parliament, but by Royal Commissions, which had been instituted on the subject; the Select Committee en the Bill and others were unanimous in its favour. He did not say that some persons would not be injured by the Bill, but that was generally the case where im provements were adopted. The jurisdiction of the Ecclesiasti cal Courts with respect to marriages would remain the same, no new principle was sought to be introduced. It should be borne in mind that the law at the present moment gave many lay officers the power of solemnizing marriages. The Bishop of SALISBURY considered that if the remu neratio4 of their officers were taken away, as it would be in a great measure by the Bill, they would as a matter of course have very inefficient officers. It was understood that no measure affecting the Et c l es i as ti ca l C ourts wou ld be introduced during tl - e present session, and the Secre tary of State for the Home Department, on whom he had waited on the subject, had so informed hint. He went on his visitation on that understanding, and the first he heard of this Bill was through a newspaper ; and since that period the Government had pressed on the measure with great haste during the present session. He was of opinio n th a t t h e powers which it gave should be in the hands of the responsible advisers of the Crown. He agreed in the opinions which the Right Rev. Prelate had expressed. Lord BROUGHAM said the measure was not a Govern ment one, as it was brought in his Noble and Learned Friend (Lord Cottenham). The. Bishop of LONDON said, in explanation, that the measure would take away a great part of their jurisdiction, and affected the Church of England to so great an extent, that no Government, or any person, would have ventured, a short time back, to introduce a measure having similar objects in view. There was an understanding with the last Government that no measure of a similar character to the one before their Lordships should be introduced without the consent of the Bishops. This measure ought to have been a Government one. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he brought in a Bill of a more modified character than the one before them, which was ultimately abandoned when the present measure was brought in, he found it so analogous to the Bill he had intro duced that he could not have consistently refused it his support. The Bishop of SALISBURY explained that he attended a meeting of the prelates in Lambeth Palace on Ash Wednes day, 1642, respecting a Bill which had for its object the regu lation of these courts. Lord BROUGHAM said that the Lord Chancellor did not engage to support every clause in the Bill which had been in troduced by his Noble Friend. He merely supported the prpciple. The Bishop of LONDON thought that a Bill of such im• portance ought not to have been brought in unless by the Government, and after a consultation with the bishops. Laird CAMPBELL said, that the present Bill was exactly similar to the one which the Right Rev. Prelate (the Bishop of London), as one of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, had re commended. He therefore thought that he had no ground whatever for complaint. The Bishop of LONDON said, that a person could not be in that House for nineteen years without undergoing some modification of his opinions. He thought, if he had an oppor. tunity of telling their Lordships a story, he would be able to account for the inconsistencies with which the bench of bishops were charged in reference to that question. The report was then received. The Earl of DALHOUSIE then moved that the Commons' _aitnendments o n th e " S cott i sh Railway Clauses Consolidation " B• 01 be taken into consideration on Monday next. Several Bills were forwarded a stage, and their Lordships adjourned at a quarter past seven o'clock. ROUSE OF COMMONS, June °- The S PEAKER. took th e Ch a i r s h ortly before Four -d o'clock. DARTMOUTH NEW WRIT. of !Ur. for the — borough of Dartmouth, in ics veceased. the A roo ne m w WHITBY PICKERING RAILWAY. The Lords' amendments to the Whitby and Pickering Rail.. way Bill were agreed to. YORK AND NORTH MIDLAND RAILWAY. The Lords' amendments to York and North Midland (Bridlington Branch) Railway gill were agreed to. BELFAST IMPROVE On the motion of Mr. EMERSONT BILL. On the Belfast Improvement Bill was read a third R zie l o ?assed. GREAT WESTERN (IRELAND) Mr. CLIVE brought up the report on the Irish Great A West ern (Dublin and Galway) Railwa y Bill, w hich was to.agreed The Rochdale Vicarage (Molesworth's Estate) Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. LIVERPOOL AND MANCHESTER RAILWAY. The Liverpool and Manchester Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. NORTH UNION AND RIBBLE RAILWAY. The North Union and Ribble Navigation Branch Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. The St. Helen's Improvement Bill was read a third time and passed. Heaviside's Divorce Bill was read a first, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday. GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY (IRELAND) The Great Western Railway (Ireland) (Dublin to Mullingar and Athl , ,ne) Bill, wa s rea d a thi r d t i me an d passed. AND PRESTON BROOK RAILWAY. I On the motion that the report be received on the Runcorn and Preston Brook Railway and Docks All, Mr. V. SMITH objected to the BM, on the ground that it was to enable an individual to make a railway, which he would afterward; sell to the Grand Junction Company. Mr. T. EGERTON believed that the course that was in tended to he adopted in this case had been often adopted in the case of railway companies by individuals. After some observations from Mr. Ricardo, Mr. Warburtos, and Lord Sandon, the report was read, and the Bill was ordered to be engrossed. BIRMINGHAM AND GLOUCESTER RAILWAY. The Birmingham and Gloucester Railway (Gloucester Ex tension, Stoke Branch, and Midland Railway Junction) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Glossop Gas Bill was read a third time and passed. THE NORTH OF ENGLAND RAILWAY. The North of England (Clarence and Hartlepool Junction) Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. The Richmond (Surrey) Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. Captain BERKELEY then rose, pursuant to notice, to call the attention of the House to the hardship and injustice of permitting the promoters of railway schemes, proposing to cross or interfere with any tidal rivers, arms of the sea, and creeks, over which the Board of Admiralty have control, appearing before Committees of this House on Private Bills, without having first obtained the written sanction of that Board, according to the provision .of the Act 8 Victoria,c. 20. Some remedy ought to be found for this evil. His object in calling the attention of the House to this matter was, that some instructions should be given to Committees as to the construc tion of bridges over tidal rivers. Any bridge must annihilate the navigation, and there was now no resource but to apply to the Board of Admiralty for appearance; and opposition before a Railway Committee would, it was well known, entail immense expense. He would leave the remedy to Hon. Gentlemen op posite, but some course should be taken which would put a stop to those needless expenses. He then concluded by mov ing that the question be referred to the Committee on Standing Orders. Mr. HUME said this was a question of the greatest im portance, and there ought to be some decided rule on the sub ject.—( Hear, hear.) What he wished was, that whenever the Admiralty had decided against any bridge, parties opposing the railway should not be compelled to do so before the Committee at great expense. In this case a tunnel under the river was intended, but of such a construction as would impede the im provement of that river. The decision of the Admiralty ought to be recorded in that House, so that there might be no need for further interference on the part of private individuals. Sir G. GREY said the question was one of considerable importance, and he wished to call the attention of the House to the report of the Glasgow Junction Railway, in which a similar course was pursued, and a similar object had been de signed. The Right Hon. Gentleman quoted the report, en forcing the necessity of the Admiralty sending in a special decision, which would be recorded, and so obviate the necessity for further interference. Mr. FITZROY said he thought the course suggested would interfere with the functions of the Standing Orders Com mittee, where he thought the onus of stopping such a project should remain. Mr. HUME said, respecting the bridge on the Glasgow Railway, the Admiralty had interfered, and effectually, to pre vent the construction of the bridge. Mr. BERKELEY said there was no blame at all due to the Admiralty from disinclination to interfere, as their capacity was so limited. Mr. FITZROY said there had been no consent given to the project for the tunnel under the Severn. When it was pro posed they asked for the plans and sections, which had not yet been inspected. Mr. WARBURTON hoped that as the Board of Admiralty were like others—fallible—that when they reported against such a bridge as that mentioned by the Gallant Officer, their engineers should state the reasons for such opposition. Captain PLUMRIDGE said a few words, after which Sir G. CLERK said, the Railway Consolidation Act gave the Admiralty the power of interfering, not only before the project was commenced, but even when in course of operation ; they might pull down any works which would in any way operate to the inconvenience or obstruction of the navigation of the tidal rivers. No parties of common sense, knowing that this power lay with the Admiralty, would pro ceed with such works as that under consideration unless they obtained the consent of the Admiralty. Therefore, he put it to the Gallant Officer whether, under such circumstances, his motion was not useless? Captain BERKELEY would withdraw his present proposi tion; his object was to save the expense of private individuals in opposing great railway companies, bet would, on Monday, bring forward a motion for the protection of private individuals opposing such schemes. NEWRY AND ENNISKILLEN RAILWAY. The Newry and Enniskillen Railway Bill was then read a third time and passed. The Hawkins' Estate Bill was read a second time. Captain EGERTON presented a petition from the College of Surgeons, against the Medical Relief Bill. SMALL DEBTS BILL. On the motion of Mr. F. KELLY this Bill was read a first time. We did not hear the date for which the second reading was appointed. STATISTICS OF IRELAND. Mr. 'JOHN O'CONNELL, seeing the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his place, he would take the opportunity of putting the questions which he had intended, according to notice, to put to the Right Hon. Gentieman, on the order of the day for going into the Committee of Supply—" Whether the Government will take into consideration the propriety of adding to the statement of the expenditure of the United Kingdom, given in the finance accounts of each year, a special statement of the local expenditure of Ireland ; that is, of all disbursements out of the revenue of Ireland, of whatever nature they may be, and a statement of the balanee re mitted to England ? Also, whether the Government will take into consideration the propriety of establishing some means of registry, for statistical purposes, of the nature, quantity, official and real values of all articles of traffic passing between Great Britain and Ireland ; and thus supply a deficiency much com plained of by the Irish Railway Commissioners of 1838, by Mr. Porter in his ' Progress of the Nation,' and by ethers em ployed officially or otherwise, in inquiries relative to the static tics of the United Kingdom ?" The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that on the first question he had only to say, that in the financial re turns annually laid before the House the information was given which the Hon. Gentleman wished to obtain, as the amount of Irish finance was published in a separate form. It would be very inconvenient to depart from that form. With respect to the other question, he would admit that the object desired by the Hon. Gentleman would be of great value in a statistical point of view ; but he did not think that the statistical value would compensate for the expense and inconvenience. After a few words from Mr. J. O'CONNELL in explana tion, the conversation dropped. THE IRISH LAND COMMISSION. Mr. S. O'BRIEN, according to notice, put a question to the Right Hon. the Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment, as to whether it is the intention of the Government to bring forward, with a view to their enactment during the pre sent session, any of the measures recommended by the Irish Land Commissioners ; and if any, what measures will be so brought under the consideration of Parliament ? Sir J. GRAHAM said that a second Bill was in prepara tion. His Hon. and Learned Friend the Solicitor-General had been in communication with the Earl of Devon upon the subject of the Bill, which would at an early period be intro duced in the other House of Parliament. NEW SOUTH WALES. Mr. SCOTT said, that he wished to put a question to the Under-Secretary for the Colonies, whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce any measure with regard to the unsold lands in New South Wales ? Mr. HOPE said, that such was the intention, and the Secretary for the Colonies was in communication with persons in that country on the subject. In answer to a question fron Mr. EWART, Sir GEORGE CLERK said that the removal and not the dismissal of one of the masters of the School of Design arose from the insubordination of some of the pupils. SIR VALENTINE BLAKE AND THE LAW OF _ _ ARREST. Sir VALENTINE BLAKE rose and said—Sir, seeing her Majesty's Ministers in their places, and seeing her Ma jesty's Solicitor-General in his place, I will take the very great liberty of putting a question, and thereby suggesting to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, and all the Hon. and Learned Gentlemen who took part in the debate last night, and who were present in this House—(Laughter) —that the proper view of the question was not taken by this House or them. The SPEAKER intimated that this Wa3 not putting a question. Sir V. BLAKE—The question I have to ask the Hon. and Learned Gentleman is this: —supposing an Honourable Gen tleman is sued to execution for a debt, and supposing he is arrested, what is the proper course then to be taken ? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL—In answer to the question put to me by the Hon. Gentleman, I think the proper course would be to take a legal opinion.—( Cheers and laughter.) CAPTAIN BOLDERO, MR. BONHAM, AND THE SOUTH-EASTERN RAILWAY COMPANY. Mr. HAWES then rose, and referring to a petition which he had presented from the South-Eastern Railway Company, said he thought he would be best discharging his duty by simply moving for the appointment of a Committee to inquire into the allegations of the petition. Captain BOLDERO—I think, Sir, that I can best perform my duty by following the example of the Honourable Gentleman, and merely second the motion. At the same time, as great anxiety is felt both by my friend Mr. Bonham and myself, I may ex press a hope that the Committee will be of the mast searching character.—( Hear, hear. ) After a few further remarks from Mr. HAwEs and Sir R. PEEL the motion was agreed to. THE LAND COMMISSION. Mr. REDINGTON begged to protest against any measures which might be introduced by the Government as being con sidered by Members of the House as coming from the Land Com mission, unless they were satisfied from the perusal of the report that such measures were really based on it. DECORATIONS OF THE HOUSES OF _ _ PARLIAMENT. On the order of the day for going into a Committee of Sup ply being read, _ Mr. ROEBUCK rose to put a question to the Noble Lord at the head of the Woods and Forests (Lord Lincoln) respect ing the Fine Arts Commission. It was well understood that an exhibition of frescoes was about to take place for the purposes of art, and for the purpose of deciding which de signs were proper for the H ouses o f Parliament. He under stood that her Majesty had been down that day and inspected them. He was also informed that Members of both Houses would have the privilege of inspecting them. If there was to be any distinction at all, it should be for public purposes, and not to gratify any personal curiosity. The question he had to ask was, whether it was required that Mem bers of the House should ask the Secretary for tickets of ad mission ? He had been there last year, and had been told that unless he had a ticket of admission, signed by Mr. East lake, he could not be admitted, and that, as a Member of Parliament, he could not be admitted without a ticket. What he wished to ask was, whether Members of Parliament would be admitted to-morrow without tickets, or whether any restriction would be placed upon the admission of Members of Parliament ? The Earl of LINCOLN had not been able to attend any of the recent meetings of the Commissioners of the Fine Arts, and therefore was not able to give any precise information on the subject. He knew that it had been intended that no re striction should be placed upon the admission of Members of either House of Parliament. In what had fallen from the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, however, relative to the occur rences of last year, he was apprehensive the same difficulties might arise. He would, however, take care to see the Secre tary of the Commission in the course of the evening, and the Hon. and Learned Member might rest assured that there would be no impediment thrown in the way of the admission of Mem bers of Parliament to the exhibition. Mr. HUME asked if the families of Members would also be admitted ?—( Laughter. ) _ The Earl o f LINC OLN said that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman asked for the admission of Members upon public grounds, but he did not think that public grounds required the sentim e admission o f their families. RA t L he way BR OAD AND NARROW G AUGE. l‘ir. justiceßE N to anxiousnta of an eminent t o take et h a t engineer, n opportunity ina doing c.n the comparative merits of the b roa d and narrow gauge. g er, He had stated on a former occasion that Mr. Walk er had stated that he was in favour of the broad gauge and against the narrow gauge, and he thought an inference had been drawn that Mr. Walker was in favour of substituting the broad gauge for the narrow. The evidence of Mr. Walker, however, wou ld not bear out such an inference. The question pot to that Gentle- THE SUN, LONDON, SATTJEDAI EVENING, JiTTIN E Pe, MS. Mr. CARDWF.LL said that notwithstanding the persuasive speech of the Hon. Member for Montrose, he could nut accede to the motion of the Hon. Member for Finsbury. With re spect to the squabble which the Hon. Gentleman had described as so contemptible, as to be only for 251., the truth was that the Government had engaged the vessels which carried the mails to convey first-class passengers at a certain rate of rea sonable charge, together with parcels for the inhabitants of the Scilly Isles, and for ships lying near them, and it was the refusal of the owners of those vessels to grant this public con venience that had led to the dissolution of the connexion between them and the Government. The Hon. Gentleman was cer tainly mistaken in stating that there had been any sufficient complaint made at the Post-office, for it was notorious that the Noble Lord at the head of the Post-office, and the Secretary of that department, were perfectly easy of access, and they had no interest whatever in refusing to rectify the complaints. The system of fees had been entirely put down, except in this instance of payments for early delivery. No evil whatever resulted from these early deliveries. The system was this :—The letter-carriers sorted their letters which they took out for the general delivery, and his heap being diminished by those for the early delivery, which were always the most numerous, the others were much sooner disposed of than they otherwise would be, so that on the whole there was no loss of time to the public. With regard to the amount of information which would be derived from inquiry, the Hon. and Gallant Member for Brighton (Capt. Peehell) had sufficiently shown that the information was sufficiently full, as was already shown by the returns on the table; so that, in fact, the very best argument against the inquiry had been furnished by the mover for the Commit tee himself.—( Hear.) Then there was the " Post-office Directory," which the Hon. Member had described as a very gross job. Now what were the circumstances of the case ? This " Directory" was necessary for the public convenience, and the only parties who could obtain the information which would render it of utility were the letter-carriers. It had been originally projected by a person of the name of Sparkes. After conducting it for some time he was succeeded by Mr. Pritchard, and after him came Mr. Kelly. Now Mr. Kelly had originally been connected with the Post-office, and had given a considerable sum for his appointment, and the privilege of publishing the " Directory." He had invested a large sum of money in this publication, and had, as the Honourable Gentleman allowed, very greatly improved it. The re turns for this publieation were certainly considerable, but they were the fair reward of a heavy mercantile speculation, and to which the proprietor was fully entitled. This was the whole evidence of the job which could be ad duced, and he must contend that in the right sense of the word the term job could never be rightly applied to this transaction. Having disposed of the two portions of the Hon. Gentleman's attack which, in his judgment, appeared the most important, he would just advert to the effect which this motion, if carried, would have. They would, after a tedious and unnecessary in quiry, just attain that which they already possessed, and would be further disturbing the whole arrangements of a large and highly important public establishment. From what the Hon. Gentleman had said, and from the paper he had read, it did appear quite true, and he was ready to allow it, that there was some insubordination among the inferior officers of the Post office, but he could not ascribe it to the publication of the Di rectory by Mr. Kelly, and he was quite sure that the proposed inquiry would not be at all instrumental in its diminution. The discontent said to exist among them at the reduction of their salaries as they grew into years, was a rumour to which he would give no very ready or implicit credence. That re duction originated in the choice of the easier walks, and was made up for by other advantages. And with regard to any complaints, the proper quarter to apply to was the office of the Noble Lord at the head of the Post-office, or to the Secretary of the establishment, by whom he was sure they would receive every attention. He should therefore feel it his duty to resist the inquiry. Dr. BOWRING thought that the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down hael not answered his Hon. Friend the Member for Montrose, for he had not proved that there was not a difference made between the rich and the poor. He believed that the subordinates who could expose many abuses were afraid to displease their superiors. And it was well known, that it was not the way to obtain favour in a public office to point out abuses or to suggest remedies. Now that the Post office had become more popular than ever, it was time that the distinction between the higher and humbler classes of society in respect to accommodation ought to be done away with. Mr. WILLIAMS, who rose amidst loud and continued cries I of " Divide," supported the motion. Mr. F. BARING did not think it would be the most desirable course to submit these arrangements of the Post office to a Committee of the House. He thought it would be better that the Government should take the inquiry into its own hands. With respect to the " Directory," he could not agree in all that had been said; but he would admit that those who had the labour of collecting the information should partici pate in the gains. Yet, if the suggestion were adopted that the public should have the whole advantage, the work would not long cont:nue to be as valuable as it was now acknowledged to be.—( Hear, hear. ) Sir C. LEMON supported the motion.—(The Hon. Baronet spoke amidst loud cries of "Divide.") Mr. CURTEIS (amidst similar interruption) said that he would vote with the Hon. Member for Finsbury, for he thought it monstrous that he should be obliged to pay 20s. a quarter, or whatever it might be, in order to receive the communications of his constituents in reasonable time. The House then divided— For Mr. Duncombe's motion Against it Majority —76 NATIONAL ANTIQUITIES. On the readmission of strangers, we found Mr. WYSE moving an address to her Majesty, that she will be graciously pleased to give directions for the establishment and maintenance of a museum of national antiquities in con junction with a commission for the conservation of national antiquities. The Honourable Gentleman argued that it was of small effect to endeavour to elevate the people to an appre ciation of high art and elevated pursuits, if measures were not also taken to preserve those monuments andj collections by which the learning, the refinement, and the history of past ages were as mnch preserved as in books. He dwelt upon the defi ciency which existed at present for supplying that kind of in struction. A gentleman, of the name of Dann, applied to the Trustees of the British Museum, to appropriate a place in the new building for the preservation of the remains of ancient English architecture, to which the trustees replied, that they: could not provide any place for the preservation of the remains of Gothic architecture. These were evils which were not merely of a general hut of a specific nature. They saw some of the most beautiful of the specimens of Sir Christopher Wren allowed to hasten to decay, and were obliged to be taken down and destroyed. Some Ho nourable Gentlemen might have seen a production which had done honour to Ireland, he meant the essay of Mr. Petre on the round towers in Ireland ; and what was the conclusion to which he came, and which he offered as a justification of his work ? It was, that he was actuated by a desire to rescue the antiquities of his native country from oblivion, arid give them their just place. He showed that in this country, day by day, they were allowing the most important remains of earlier pe riods to perish, and that the most beautiful structures were de caying, and that their fragments were oecasionally carried off to erect other buildings. The Hon. Gentlem an th en a ll u d e d to the attention that was paid in France to these matters— where there was a commission formed for the purpose of pre serving ancient monuments, and for the investigation of politi cal and moral sciences, and of ancient beauty. The public mo numents likely to perish they had restored, and they were copied by the most distinguished ar tists. They ordered that on every building of any antiquity, there should be described the historical events con nected with it. There was now a spirit existing in France for the protection of everything connected with ancient Chris tianity in that country. He did not state this merely for the purpose of panegyrising France; the same spirit existed in Germany. With such examples before them, were they not called upon to re-establish the old spirit o f Ch r i s ti an i ty , b y protecting it s o ld es t em blems in this country ? Last session he was assured by the Secretary for Ireland that the Govern ment were not adverse to the promotion of this object. He now asked for a Commission to prevent further dilapidation. The Hon. Gentleman then concluded by moving an address to her Majesty, that she will be graciously pleased to give direc tions for the establishment and maintenance of a museum o man was, fiuppose no railrays were constructed, and that see were about to commence the formation of railways for the first time, which gauge would you recommend ? To which Mr. Walker replied, " the broad gauge certainly." This was very different from recommending that the narrow gauge should be torn up in every locality and the broad gauge substituted in its stead. POST-OFFICE ABUSES. _ _ The vote was then agreed to, as were also the following sums :--208.573/., salaries for officers in the ordnance depart ment ; 117,5501., wages tor do. ; 213,246/., for the land and sea service ; 488,483/., for the repairs of ordnance and bar rack•-stores ; 89,176/. for the expenses of the Tower. Sir C. NAPIER approved of the vote for keeping in repair and improving the fortifications at Portsmouth and other places. Captain BOLDERU explained, in reply to a question of Sir Howard Douglas, that the Government were building chapels at Weedon and other military stations, which expenses would be included in the vote. The vote was agreed to; as also was a sum of 62,753/. for the scientific branch of the Ordnance department. In answer to a question from Sir H. DOUGLAS, as to the progress of the Government survey in Scotland, Captain BOLDER() replied that 4,123 acres had been surveyed. The sum of 123,083/. for the non-effective service of the Ordnance was next voted. The next item was a sum of 47,328/. for the half-pay allow ance of officers of the Commissariat department, which was agreed to. The sum of 112,1161. was then proposed to he voted for the care of public buildings and gardens, including furniture, &c. Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the vote, as he considered it very extravagant. The Earl of LINCOLN defended the vote. Mr. BERNAL complained of the way in which the public money had been applied in the purchase of pictures. He men tioned the fact of 600/. having been paid for a picture for the National Gallery, attributed to Holbein, the celebrated German painter, but which, he believed, had no title to be attributed to his pencil. Sir ROBERT PEEL explained that pictures bought for the National Gallery were pictures of the highest repute. Still he was willing to admit that some few might be of a doubtful character, and had better not be there. The inferior pictures to which he referred had generally been bequests by private in dividuals. The trustees had lately come to the resolution not to refuse any bequests, but with the understanding that such pictures as they did not think proper to hang on the walls of the institution should be in the hands of the trustees, to he presented to any provincial town they might think fit, that had a gallery ; the desire of the Government being to create a taste among the public for the fine arts. He admitted there had been a picture which was attributed to a German artist, and painted three hundred years ago, purchased for 6001. ; and though it was difficult to decide whether a picture of such an age was a genuine produc tion, there were some grounds for supposing that the picture was the work of Holbein. Still it was possible the trustees might have been mistaken, and, rather than a counterfeit should be on the walls, they had withdrawn the picture. They were 1101 s considering about calling in the assistance and skill of the most eminent dealers in pictures and judges, to learn how far the pictures were worth the prices affixed, and with the view of having nothing but works of the highest order of merit in the Gallery. Mr. BERNAL had every confidence in the good taste of the Right Hon. Baronet, but he must say that he had seen the nation lose good paintings for a small sum. If the Right Hon. Baronet would walk down to Pall-mall, he would there find a picture of the King of Saxony—a real Holbein—which had been purchased for a very small sum. It was now in the Bri tish Institution. There were three pictures there by the first masters, which had been purchased at very small sums. He spoke comparatively. Dr. BO WRING wished to ask what the Right Hon. Ba ronet meant by saying that a fit receptacle for paintings would be very desirable. Did he mean to alter the external appear ance of the National Gallery, or did he mean to erect an in stitution for works of art which would be worthy of the nation? Mr. WARBURTON said all they had to do was to build a large gallery for the reception of great church pictures, in the Grandoise style—the grandest of all styles. He hoped the Right Hon. Baronet would be prepared next year to recom mend the building of a great gallery for such a national exhi bition. Sir R. PEEL said sometimes the disposition of the House was very economical, and sometimes very liberal. The most magnificent site in the metropolis had been thrown away, as any one would see by standing on the steps of the National Gallery.—( Hear, hear.) He did not think much good could be done by laying out money on the exterior—they certainly might amend the cupola and improve the turrets, but after all the great thing was to have the galleries so constructed as that the pictures might be properly lighted. The matter was under the consideration of the Government, and he trusted that before many years elapsed the country would be in pos session of a gallery worthy of the reception of works of art— ( Hear, hear)—and thus hold out an encouragement to those who might be desirous of presenting pictures for the national benefit. Mr. HAWES said a few words, and Lord MAHON declared he entirely approved of the sug gestion of the Right Hon. Baronet, and hoped it would be car ried into executisn. After a conversation, in which Mr. Redins,tton, Lord Mahon, Mr. Ewart, and Sir R. Peel, took part, the vote was agreed to. On the motion of the Earl of LINCOLN, that 6,500/. should be appropriated to the support of the botanical gardens at Kew, Mr. COLLETT objected that those gardens were of no national importance whatever, and he would especially wish to know of what use a farm-house would be to the country? The Earl of LINCOLN said that these gardens had, up to the end of 1841, been left in a state which was a disgrace to a country like this. The necessity for botanical gardens had been invariably allowed in every State in the world. In every country in Europe botanical gardens had been cultivated as well as in India. With respect to the farm-house, it was at first erected for the purpose of receiving the great aloe, which had been imported about a twelvemonth ago; but it was in reality intended for every description of tropical plants. He would take that opportunity of congratulating the Irish Members on the fact, that it was about to be erected by one of their coun trymen. He had accidentally heard there was a man of great experience in Dublin, and he had allowed him to enter into competition with an Englishman of great experience, and the contract had been fairly won. It was being erected in a most admirable and liberal manner. The vote was then agreed to. On the motion that the sum of 8,395/. be appropriated for the erection and improvement of the Committee-rooms of both Houses of Parliament, Mr. WILLIAMS expressed a desire to know when the new Houses were likely to be fit for occupation ? The Earl of LINCOLN said that the building certainly could not be completed within the time specified by the archi tect, but the House of Lords would be ready for occupation at the commencement of the next session, without, however, its decorations, which could not be prepared in time. The House of Commons would not be ready before the commencement of the session after next. For the sake of the building, the archi tect, and the country, it was advisable that the work should not be hurried, for when completed he believed that it would be one of the finest buildings in Europe. Mr. HAWES trusted that not one shilling would be ex pended in any temporary erections connected with the new Houses of Parliament. He hoped, as improvements could not be effected this session, that steps would be taken to give them better accommodation during the next. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the sug gestion of the Hon. Member would be attended to. Sir R. PEEL said those Members who had attended for four or five hours a day on the Committees, had established a strong claim to the gratitude of the House and of the country. He could assure them that steps should be taken which would conduce to their health and convenience. After some conversation the vote was agreed to. A vote of 85,000/. was proposed and agreed to towards con structing the new Houses of Parliament. A vote of 14,0001. was proposed for altering and partially re building the Home-office and the Board of Trade. Lord LINCOLN, in answer to questions with respect to the plot of land immediately adjacent to the Treasury, said that as yet the Woods and Forests had not come to a conclusion re speeting it. Mr. WARBURTON hoped the grant was not to be ap plied for a temporary purpose. Lord LINCOLN said the sum wood be applied to im provements of a pen:anent character. The vote was agreed to, as were also -3,8361. for the Holyhead Harbour, and Shrewsbury-road. 50,000/. for the Caledonian Canal. 24,461/. for the Public Works of Ireland. 8,000/. for Kingston Harbour. 39,320/. for the officers of the two Houses of Parliament. 25,901/. for the salaries of the Treasury Department. 17,420/. for the salaries of the officers of the Home-office. 21,0001. for the salaries of the officers of the Colonial-office. 39,000/. for the salaries of the officers of the Privy Council, and Board of Trade. 2,000/. for the Privy Seal-office. 34,0261. for the Comptroller and Paymaster's-office. 15,919/. for the expenses of the Exchequer-office. 2,691/. for the expenses of the State Paper-office. When 3,340/. for the expenses of the Ecclesiastical Commis sions of England was proposed, Mr. WILLIAMS rose and objected to that vote. He said he would take the sense of the House against it. He would divide the House on any grant of money for the religious education of Protestants or Roman Catholics, but he had no objection to provide a merely secular education for all. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then made a few observations in favour of the vote. On the motion that the order of the day be read for the House resolving itself into a Committee of Supply, Mr. T. DUNCOMBE rose, and moved, " That Returns, No. 72 and 248, made by the General Post-office, be referred to a Select Committee, with a view of inquiring into the accu racy of those returns; also into the present mode of remune rating by fees and perquisites certain officers of the General Post-office, and how far the duties of that establishment may be rendered more satisfactory to the public, and less unequal and oppressive to the persons engaged therein." This motion had no reference whatever to the questions which had recently been the subject of discussion in that House. At the close of the last session of Parliament he moved for a return of every person connected with the Post-office, the date of his appointment, the nature of his office, the duties he performed, and the amount of salary he received. He subse quently moved for _a return relating to the letter-carrier's fund. These returns, after much delay and great difficulty, had at last been laid on the table. He was not, however, satisfied with them, and he was desirous that they should be referred to a Select Committee for the purpose of inquiring into their accuracy. He maintained that there was inaccuracy in those returns, which had not been made accidentally but intentionally, with the view of deceiving the public as to their true nature. He considered that the payment by fees instead of a fixed salary of public servants in the employment of the Crown was a most improper system, and one which would lead to great inconvenience and distrust, and in many instances to cases of gross corruption, since he believed that there was no public department, with the exception of the Post-office, from which the system had not been repudiated. With respe , t to the payment of fees to the letter-carriers, there was not a single railway company who were not in the habit of feeing the servants of the Post-office. He should like to know en what principle the system of giving fees to the servants of the Crown was upheld ? He would draw the attention of the House, in a few miuutes, to the manner in which certain duties of the Post-office were performed—namely, to the mode in which the early delivery of letters in the City was conducted. There were certain districts marked out by the Post-Master- General for the early delivery of letters, and he was ready to prove that this was the grossest fraud upon the merchant and tradesman that could be possibly conceived. This practice had been complained of over and over again, by merchants and other parties, to the authorities of the Post-office, and recently a memorial had been submitted to Lord Lonsdale from the merchants and manufacturers of London. The petitioners complained of the unfair distribution of the early delivery, and believed it would not be sanctioned by law. They also complained of the system of paying fees to the postmen, which from some firms averaged, for quarterage, amounts to 17/. and 25/. per annum. He thought that some attention ought to have been paid to this memorial, and that some answer ought to have been made to it, either by, the su perior officers of the Post-office, but it seemed as if it had alto gether been done away with. Some of those merchants lived three, four, and even five miles from the General Post-office, and they received their letters earlier at their private resi dences than they did at their offices in the City. One gentle. man, who lived on the other side of Blackfriars-bridge, received his letters there earlier by half to three-quarters of an hour than he did at his shop in Fleet-street, although he paid for the early delivery there. The reason of this was, that the letter deliverers in the outskirts were carried toward their walks by carts or omnibuses, and were thus f o r war d e d, w hil s t the others, who h a d chiefly to supply the districts which were not favoured with the early deliveries, were left to sort what were called quarterlies and shams. These advantages, he understood, were reserved for the older servants of the Post-office, and one of the juniors had been dismissed because he refused to submit to the oppression which he conceived he suffered from not en joying a portion of the benefit. Another objectionable prac tice pursued in this office was, what was termed the " window duty ;" a fee of some five or eight guineas paid by merchants for obtaining an early delivery of their letters. Now, he wished to know what right the Post-office department had to take any money whatever beyond the one penny authorised by law, as the uniform amount of postage; originally the fee was given as a remuneration to the carrier, for the credit he gave on the payment of letters, but since the change of system it was ren dered unnecessary, all letters, except foreign, being pre-paid. By the present practice, however, Rowland Hill's system was virtually annulled, and a door was opened to an extensive range of fraud and deception. They would find in the return that the senior letter carriers, who were forty years in the esta blishment, only received 14s. a week from the Crown, and the juniors received from 20s. to 235. a week ; so that the longer a man remained in the establishment the less the pay became. Unless he had power and capital sufficient, and friends who would give security for him, he might be twenty or thirty years in the establishment, and instead of the pay being 305. a week, it would be only 14s. a week. There was no provision what ever for sickness. He might become superannuated if the Post master-General thought fit, and if he did not the postman would have only 14s. a week-6s. less than he had before. The Crown gave a salary of 26/. a year to many who received from 100/. to 1201. They threw every impediment in the way of those merchants who did not submit to those taxes for the early delivery. They caused the letters to come to them as late as possiLle. He would read a statement which he knew to be true, showing that this practice led to demoralisation and to acts of dishonesty and corruption. There was one instance admitted by the witness himself which showed the system pur sued. A gentleman, who was on the early list, told the post man that he did not require to have the early delivery any more. When the man told me this," said the witness, " I desired him to go through his walk as usual, and to deliver that gentle man's letters last." Soon afterwards the gentleman said to the postman that he thought he would take the early delivery again. The man said, " I thought so, Sit ; I knew you would find out the inconvenience."—( Hear, hear.) Now a hat a fraud was this ?—( H ear , h ear .) To keep back the letters of a merchant till the last to compel him to contribute those dis graceful fees.—( Hear, hear.) It was a system which ought to be done away with.—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") No one could wonder that the men complained, and that the public complained of it.—( Hear, hear.) The men did not want those fees. They wanted to have adequate salaries accord ing to the recommendation of the Commissioners of Revenue Inquiry. The men ought to be paid on a graduated scale, proportioned to their services, and relieved from the necessity of going round from door to door, begging for what were called " Christmas boxes."---( Hear, hear.) Another great abuse was, the manner in which that very able and useful work the " Post-office Directory" was managed. The men, who did all the work, and obtained all the information, derived little or no emolument from it. The editor was Mr. Kelly, inspector of letters, who stated in all his prefaces, except the last one, that he was enabled, by the favour of the Postmaster-General, to avail himself of peculiar resources, so as to render the work the most complete of the kind in existence. Now, he wanted to know whether the " Post-office Directory" was an official or non-official work ? Was it a private or a public speculation ? If it was a private speculation, he wanted to know what right any person had to employ the servants of the Crown in a private speculation ? If the work was a public work, and belonged to the public, it ought not to be made the subject of private speculation and gain. Mr. Kelly, in his evi dence, said that the work was carried on by a large private capital, but was supported by official resources. Now, if it was a private work and a private speculation, why should it be supported by official resources? Instead of 1,200/., the sum realised by Mr. Kelly was nearly 8,000/. Was it right that such an office should be held under those circumstances ? He wanted to know if it was right to the fair and honest trades man ? For the large edition of the " Directory " the charge was 30s. The letter-carriers, when they go round, if they dispose of any copies, are al lowed ss. for each copy. The tradesmen get an allowance of Os. ; the price charged to them being 245. The book was thus charged 305., which, if left to the public, might be supplied for 155., and then yield a large profit. He would ask, was it proper for these men to go about from place to place soliciting orders in the manner they were now doing ? He would place the letter-carriers in a more inde pendent position. He would lay down a scale of remuneration for all those who were employed, founded on a graduated prin ciple, and of an efficient amount. He would propose that for the first 5 years, they should be paid 70/. ; from 5 to 10 years, 801. ; from 10 to 15 years, 90/. ; from 15 to 20 years, 1001. ; and from 20 to 30 years, 1101. This scale of remuneration he did not consider too much. At present the letter-carriers were almost in a state of insubordination from being obliged to leave copies of these books about. Besides, they were subject to a penalty for hawking books. About 200 copies of the " Directory" found their way to the Post-office, for which no doubt Mr. Kelly was paid ; and those, as soon as done with at the end of the year, were sent back, when they were again made use of for the succeeding year, and sent out at half-price. If the work was a public work, why did not the profits go into the revenue, as in other in stances of publications under the sanction of the Government ? If the work was not a public but a private one, why did Mr. Kelly issue such instructions to the subordinates as that be held in his hand. The Hon. Member here read several ex tracts from a printed list of instructions issued to the letter carriers, in relation to matters connected with the " Directory." Upon that order coming out, the men issued a counter-document. This address called upon the men to say whether the order to which he had just referred was made on anthorlty. Were they the servants of a bookseller or the servants of 'the Queen. Were they to be the slaves of a monopolist ? The address concluded by calling on the men to start a Post-office Directory of their own. Now, was it not disgraceful that such docu ments should have been posted up for one hour. There were abuses:existing in that establishment that required inquiry and correction. He believed that they had only to be published to be immediately corrected. It was for the House to say whether the Committee, which he intended to move for, should be granted or not, He did not blame either Lord Lansdale or Colonel Maberly for these unseemly practices. The com plaints of the aggrieved never reached their ears, but stopped half way at Mr. Kelly. If, however, an inquiry were duly in stituted, those high officers would, he believed, learn a state of tyranny and oppression practised in the inferior depart ment of which they were wholly unsuspicious. With a view, therefore, to give them that information, and an opportunity to redress the evil, he should conclude by moving the resolu tion of which he had given notice, Captain PECHELL having had unusual opportunities of knowing the grievances existing in the Post-office, but more especially in reference to the transmission of mails to the islands of Scilly, should support the appointment of the Select Committee. The official returns showed that the mails to Scilly had sometimes been detained six months before their transmission and delivery in those islands, in consequence of the gross neglect of Mr. Cresswell, the Post-officer at Exeter. The mails run most irregularly, chiefly owing to the bad arrange ments of the Treasury and the Post-office. One day or an other they must come to issue with the Admi ralty for the gross irregularities sanctioned by them. In five months the Government absolutely expended 1,3191. in the transport of those mails to Scilly, and the pay of the pilot was actually more than the whole of the expense of the packets by the previous arrangement. They had also proposed to send those packets at such times as they thought proper, while other places, such as Stornaway, of far inferior importance, had mails every day. Then there was this difficulty in accomplishing this object, and especially when they saw that the influence of the illustrious Prince at the head of the affairs of the Duchy of Cornwall could riot remove it, he could not help coming to a conclusion that there was tome agency behind the curtain which ought to be removed ; and he trusted, therefore, that the inquiry would be granted. Mr. HUME said that before the question was formally put, he wished to say a few words, as he had been the person who had moved, seven years ago, for the returns to which so much reference had been made.— ( Hear.) Several years ago the principle of receiving fees in public offices had been inquired into, and put an end to. Every establishment had been inquired into except the Post office, and he was quite sure that an inquiry into that estab blishment would be eminently useful, and he trusted therefore that the Right Hon. Baronet would not object to the motion. Hon. Gentlemen opposite had but little communication with the City, and therefore they were not aware of the evils which existed in the Post-office. No greater boon had ever been conferred upon any country than the reduction to the general penny-rate of postage, but the old apparatus was not adapted to the new principle, and a great inconvenience was incurred by the rule of early delivery. It was but right that all establishments, great and small, ought to be placed on the same footing, for no advantage ought, in his opinion, to be taken o a public establishment national antiquities, in conjunation with a Commission for the conservation of national antiquities. Mr. HAWES seconded the motion, considering some means necessary for the preservation of works of art. On the north-west coast of England many monuments of ancient talent had, to his own knowledge been sacrilegiously destroyed, and the most curious specimens actually broken up to pave the public highways. Mr. BERNAL suggested that the motion should be al tered, so as not only to include relics of art discovered in the provinces of this country, but extend to all European nations. 1 he province of Brittany in Prance presented the amplest op portunities of enriching our cfbllections ; and he could nut conceive how the genius of England could ever attain supre macy in that department, which he might call imaginative, unless they were enabled to study the models so justly esteemed as the masterpieces of the ancients. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (who from the low tone in which he addressed the House, was almost in. audible in the gallery) was understood to protest against the discussion of such a question at that period of the session. Of late years the artistic talent of this country had been increas ing rapidly, and the taste of the public contemporaneously im proving, and he thought its growth would be rather ensured by enterprise without than addresses within Parliament. Mr. P. BORTH WICK regarded the question as one in volving not only the social elevation, but the religious feelings of the country; and could not concur with his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer that the interference and patronage of the State would be useless in the advance ment of taste. He urged the introduction of a Christian in stead of a pagan style of architecture and sculpture, and con cluded by expressing a hope that next session the Government would entertain the motion.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. EWA RT complained that this was a third time that the question had been propounded, and a third time that it had been met with an unsatisfactory opposition from the Chan cellor of the Exchequer. The real object of the motion was, to preserve the mouldering monuments of art in this country from the ruin now almost inevitable, and it had been an swered that such relics needed no such care. Why, then, were the Parian and Xanthian marbles guarded with such anxiety ? Why should specimens of the ancients be preserved with almost superstitious zeal, while the monuments of this country's talent were left to destruction or decay ? He was satisfied that the ;notion had been appreciated by some Hon. Members, whose opinion was entitled to respect, and he for one should give it his zealous support. The motion was then negatived without a division, and the House went into a Committee of Dr. BOWRING said that the vote was really th's ' that public money should be taken not for p u bli c p urposes . As it was for the Church of England, it should be paid out of the ecclesiastical funds. Mr. REDINGTON thought that instead of taking the money out of the public funds, they ought to spend all the funds in the hands of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, After a few words from Mr. WILLIAMS, The Committee divided, when there appeared— For the vote Against it Majority for the vote The vote was accordingly agreed to. The next vote was, that 52,7701. be granted to defray the charge of salaries and expenses of the Poor-law Commissioners in England and Wales, and in Ireland. MeREDINGTON said it was well worth while that the House should know how the poor-laws had operated in Ireland. It was their bounden duty to inquire. He would state the reasons. He had the honour to be chairman of the board of guardians for four years. The house had been de clared to be fit for use. They were prepared to carry out the provisions of the law, but they were perfectly incapable of doing so ; and when this was represented, all the assistance they had got was a mandamus from the Court of Queen's Bench to do a certain act, namely, to levy a rate. They were since obliged to employ a military force to collect the rate, and to do that which it was the duty of the officers whose salaries they were now about to vote to effect. All this was owing to the supineness of the Poor-law Commissioners. Now, what had occurred in this instance? Why, there were two executions against the House for its expenses, and his endeavour was to show that the cry that the new poor-law had not been sufficiently carried out. In another part of the country the same principle had been adopted. All the facts which had been adduced were sufficient to show that the poor. law had failed, and he thought that sufficient ground had been shown for inquiry. The law had proved inoperative, and he thought he should have sufficient title for this Committee of inquiry. Sir JAM ES GRAHAM said that the Hon. Gentleman, whose gratuitous services on a Commission, had been very valuable, was probably not aware of the declaration which he had made at the beginning of this session, that if it were deemed that the poor-law in Ireland had not answered the object of those who proposed it, he should offer no oppo sition to inquiry. But at the present time he thought that, at this period of the session, such an inquiry would be inexpedient. The Hon. Gentleman had adduced instances to show that the poor-law guardians were supine, but he v:ould rather that they should he accused of supineness than any undue activity in the exercise of the immense power with which they were in. vested. He had every hope that in the rural districts the measure would he acceptable, though he knew that many diffi culties lay in its way. Sir ROBERT FERGUSON complained of the manner In which the guardians in the county districts had set at defiance the Commissioners in Dublin. .It kept them c on ti nua lly i n h o t water. In Limerick the guardians had gone to law with the Commissioners, and the greatest confusion was the result ; he therefore hoped that some means would be adopted to prevent a continuance of this state of things. Mr. REDINGTON hoped the Committee would be granted, for there was no subject on which inquiry was so much wanted as this. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he had, some time ago, ex pressed his willingness to concur in' j the proposition, but he SUPPLY. Mr. WILLIAMS, on the vote of 223,0001. for the Ord nance estimates. objected, that the entire vote of this year had amounted to 2,287,0001., while in 1835 it was upwards of a million less, and that thus the estimates had within the last ten years been nearly deubled.—( Hear, hear.) It was a well-known fact, that the household troops and foot. guards did not perform the same duties as other regiments. He had been told, that at one time as much interest was ne cessary to be m a d e t o get a capta i n ' s comm ission, in this par ticular regiment, as to get the command of other regiments. The number of men in this horse brigade was 570 men and 46 officers, or at the rate of five officers for every three com panies; comparing those numbers with the number of officers in the artillery, the difference was astounding. Then, again, 19 out of the 46 offi cers rece i ve d extra pay f or b re vet rank ; while in the artillery, out of 435 officers, the number who received such p ay was very fe w i n d ee d . Thi s corps m i g ht be of use in time of war, but in time of peace it was of no service whatever. But he need not follow up this line of argument ; but all he would say was, that he did think those distinctions should be done away with altogether. With these observations he would detain the House no longer. Captain BOLDERO defended the corps, and spoke in high terms of their efficiency and usefulness, and stated the nature of the different services in which some of the officeri were at present employed. Sir H. DOUGLAS hoped the House would not listen to the proposition of the lion. Member opposite, for he (Sir H. Douglas) could, as an old artillery officer, speak of the effi ciency of this splendid corps. He then took a review of the utility and achievements of the artillery services of different continental nations, and then went through a history of the feat., of gallantry, daring and usefulness of the British artil lery during the continental campaigns, and denied that it would be possible to get up such a branch of the service without years of toil and scientific instruction, though the Hon. Mem ber opposite appeared to think that if it were disbanded it could be easily raised again. never after heard one word upon the subject from any of the Irish Members. Mr. REDINGTON said the reason he asked for the Com mittee was in order to give the Government some information but the Irish people did not want any Committee on thesubject The vote was then agreed 2,383/. were granted for the expenses of the Mint, includ. ing coinage A vote of 13,400/. was next proposed to defray the salaries of persons engaged in keeping the public record. Mr. PROTHEROE observed on the absurdity of keeping the public records in the roof of the House of Commons, and inquired whether it was the intention of the Government to appropriate a building for their preservation ? The Earl of LINCOLN said that it had at one time been in con'emplation to erect a building for the securing of the public records, but the scheme had been abandoned as imprac ticable. The sum was then voted. A vote of 2,6121. was then proposed for the Jewel-office in the Tower. Mr. COLLETT objected. The vote was agreed to. A vote of 10,9671. was proposed to defray the expense of in spectors and sub• inspectors of factories. The vote was agreed to. A vote of 22,4711. was proposed to defray the expenses of the Chief Secretary's Office in Ireland. —Agreed to. A vote of 5,0181. was proposed to defray the expenses of the civil service in Ireland.—Agreed to. A vote of 3,1571. was proposed to defray the expenses of the Board of Public Works in Ireland.—Agreed to. A vote of 221,5881. was proposed for the printing and sta tionary in the Government offices in England.—Agreed to. A vote of 4,9501. was proposed to defray the expenses of printing, binning, and stationary in Ireland.—Agreed to. The House then resumed, and the Chairman reperted pro gress. DOG STEALING BILL. It was then moved that the Dog Stealing Bill be brought up.—Agreed to. SMOKE PROHIBITION BILL. The report on the Smoke Prohibition Bill was postponed until Monday. Alderman COPELAND observed that when the Bill was passed he must shut up his factory, and turn out of employment 1,000 people, and no manufacturer could then carry on his work. He, therefore, requested its further postpon e m en t. Th e iron masters from South Staffordshire had arrived in town to-day, and were in perfect consternation on the subject. Mr JOHN PARKER trusted that there would be suffi cient inquiry before this Bill was proceeded with. The Earl of LINCOLN begged to remind the Honourable Gentleman that this subject had been already discussed before two Committees. With respect to the ironmasters, the Honourable Member for Sheffield and the Honourable Member for Sunderland were present, and it was therefore futile to say that the iron interest was not. represented. Mr. Hawes had been on the Committee, and had become a convert to the opinion that the object of the scheme was perfectly practicable. Mr. HAWES could not see what difference there was be tween a stationary-engine for a cotton manufactory, and an iron-foundry. Mr. WARBURTON said that an arrangement had been entered into with the ironmasters, and on that arrangement they had acted, and the engagement ought therefore to be kept. A conversation then ensued between Colonel Anson, Mr. Hawes, and Mr. Mackinnon, as to the day o n w hi c h th e repor t should be received. The report was then ordered to be brought up on Wednes day, instead of Monday. SEAL-OFFICE ABOLITION BILL. This Bill passed through Committee. ASSESSED TAXES COMPOSITION BILL. This Bill was read a third time ar , d passed. COAL TRADE (PORT OF LONDON) BILL. The Committee on this Bill was postponed, after some dis• cussion, until Monday. TIMBER SHIPS BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. ARRESTMENT OF WAGES (SCOTLAND) BILL. This Bill was also read a third time and passed. BILLS OF EXCHANGE BILL. The report was brought up and received. The House then adjourned at Halt-past One o'clock. COURT CIRCULAR. The Queen will hold a Privy Council on Monday afternoon at Buckingham Palace. Her Majesty and Prince Albert, accompanied by their Majesties the King and Qucen of the Belgians, left Buckingham Palace at three o'clock yesterday afternoon in one of the Royal carriages, for Westminster-h a ll, t o inspect the cartoons. Th e Royal suite followed in twn carriages, and consisted of Lady Portman, Baroness Hooghvorst, Hon. Miss Paget, Lord Rivers, Lord George Lennox, Mr. R. Ormsby Gore, Major A. D'Hanins de Moerkerke, Hon. Colonel Grey, and Major- General Sir Edward Bowater. Their Majesties the King and Queen of the Belgians visited her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester yesterday at Gloucester House, and their Royal High nesses the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge at Cambridge House. M. Van de Weyer, the Belgian Minister, paid his respects to their Majesties the King and Queen of the Belgians yesterday at Buckingham Palace. The royal dinner party at Buckingham Palace yes terday included their Majesties the King and Queen of the Belgians, the Belgian Minister and Madame Van de Weyer, the Marquis of Exeter, the Earl of Aberdeen, the Earl of Liverpool, the Earl Delasvarr, the Earl of Jersey, Baroness d'Hooghvorst, Lord George Lennox, and Major de Moerkerke. The band of the Ist Regiment of Life Guards was in attendance during dinner, and performed the following pieces : Overture—Waddell. The Beaufort Valse—Kcenig. Potpourri, from the Daughter of St. Mark—Balfe. Polka, Almack's—Labitzky. Walzer, Lebeus Pulse—Dinner. Selection, from La Fine du Regiment —Donizetti. Pas Redouble. from La Vwandier—Pagni, Her Majesty's private band afterwards attended, and performed the remainder of the evening. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge visited the Female Orphan Asylum at Wanstead yesterday. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cambridge honoured the Marchioness of Londonderry with a visit yesterday afternoon at Holdernesse House. Mr. Wood, Chairman of the Board of Excise, Dr. Bateman, Sir T. Fremantle, and the Att.rney-General for Ireland had au interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday, at his official residence in Down ing-street. Lord Redesdale and Mr. A. Oswald, M.P,, had inter views with the Earl of Dalhousie ye,terday, at the office of the Board of •I'rade. Mr. Duncan, M.P., and Mr. Thorns, had an interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday, on the subject a redoction of fire-insurance duty. Dispatches from the Governor of Van Dieman's Land were receive d yesterday at the Colonial , office. A deputation, including Messrs. Seager end William Grimble, had am interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Chairman of the Excise yesterday. The Post-Master General had interviews with Sir R. Peel and the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday. The Chief Commissioner of the Woods and Forests had an interview yesterday with Sir Robert Peel. Lady and Miss Hesketh left Farrance's Hotel, on Thursday, for their seat. Ruff,rd Hall. Lancashire. SPOrt I [Nit. STOCKBRIDGE RACES.—FainAr. The Great Hampshire Stakes of 25 sous. each, 15 ft, and only 5 if declared, the second to save his stake. Two miles. (23 Subs.) 18 of whom declared. Mr. Etwall's /Egis, 3 yrs, sst Mr. Waller's Columbus, 3 yrs, Sat 121 b Mr. Holloway's Old George, 4 yrs, 7st Mr. Balchin's Moustache, 4 yrs, 7st, carried 7st 21b Sir J. B. Mill's Giantesss, 3 yrs, sst 91b 5 Even on Giantess, 3 to 1 agst /Egis, and 4 to 1 each agst Old George and Columbus. Won by two lengths. The Steward's Plate (handicap) of 80 sovs. added to a Sweep stakes of 3 sovs. each, with 25 for the second. Gentlemen riders. Heats, one mile and half. (25 Subs. ) Mr. W. Sadler's Sparshott (Capt. Pettet) 0 0 0 0 1 1 Mr. W. Ley's Adrian, aged, 13st 91b..... 0 0 1 0 4 2 Mr. Clarke's fby Defence, out of N ike,.. 1 0 0 3 3 3 Mr. J. Day's gby Mazeppa, out of Buck 0 0 0 0 2 dr Mr. Boyd's The Conqueror, 6 yrs, lOst lib 0 0 2 0 dr Mr. Clifton's Nottingham, 5 yrs, lOst 91b 2 0 0 0 dr The following also started, but were drawn :—Lord Palmer ston's f by Rockingham, out of Mantua, 3 yrs, Bst 71b, and Sibs extra—Mr. Dixon's The Cook, 3 yrs, Bst 51b, and 81bs extra —Mr. Clifton's Little John, 4 yrs, Bst 121 b, and 81bs extra— Mr. Pearce's Scavenger, 5 yrs, Bst 121b—Mr. C. Liley's Pet, 4 yrs, 9st 51b—Mr. J. Day's ch h by Sir Hercules, out of Tarantella, 5 yrs, 9st 111 b, carried lOst 51b—Mr. W. Sadler's f by Venison, out of Folly, 3 yrs, 10st, and 81b extra—Mr. Hobson's Charity, 5 yrs, lOst, and 81b extra—Sir J. B. Mills' Pugilist, 4 yrs, 12st, carried 1 Ist 61b. The first heat was won on the post by a neck ; the second was a dead heat between Nottingham and Nike; the third was won by three parts of a length ; the fourth was a dead heat between the Busk g and Sparshott, Nike a capital third ; the fifth was won by three parts of a length ; and the sixth by a neck. CORONER'S INOUEST.—Wednesday afternoon, at two, Mr. Wakley, M.P., the coroner, and jury assembled for the fourth time at the Black Boy and Still, Hampstead, to pursue the inquiry into the deaths of Caroline Hillman, alias Gains, aged 24, and her infant, said to have died from the effects of poison, administered to her for the purpose of procuring abor tion. After awn her long inquiry, the jury returned a verdict that Caroline Hillman died from the effects of a certain poison called savine ; but whether taken for the purpose of destroying life, or procuring abortion, there is not sufficient evidence to show ; and that her male infant died a natural death." . .-.-.-. 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Sold (also Holloway's Ointment) at Professor Hol loway's establishment, 224, Strand (where advice may he had gratis), and by all medicine vendors throughout the civilised world. L A W INTELLIGENCE. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 27. The House sat yesterday to hear appeals ; the Peers presen were Lord Brougham, Lord Cottenham, Lord Campbell. GALBREATH V. ARMOUR. The arguments in this part-heard case were resumed, and occupied their Lordships the whole morning. The case came before their Lordships upon appeal from the decision of the Court of Session. The appellant is proprietor of certain lands situated in Kin tyre, within the county of Argyl . On part of the lands, the town of Dalinlober is built, which contains a population of about 1,500. In 1830 or 1831, a gas company was established within the burgh of Carepbelton, For the purpose of supplying the inhabitants of the burgh and others with gas. The magis trates of the burgh consented to the opening of the streets on certain conditions, and in order to extend the business of the ccmpany, they undertook to supply the proprietors and fea rs of the town of Dalinlober. The consent of the appellant waif not asked or obtained by the gas company to th e opening °f the streets or roads. In such circumstances the ar pellant, in 1840, presented a petition to the Sheriffs of Argyll to interdict the resp ondents, some of whom repre sent the Gas Company, and others are feuars under the p pellant. It was maintained before the Sheriffs that as the &ems had the use of the streets as highways, they were en titled to lay pipes for the conveyance of both and having the consent or tolerance of the Statute Labour road Trustees of the county, the appellant had neither right nor title to interfere. The Sheriff on considering full written pleadings found that as the respondents had right to their feuars with freeish and entry, they were entitled to introduce waan gas and water, or gas into their tenements by means of Pit!! I , h , in the streets or roads. The judgment 01 t ow . Sheriff was brought under the review of the of Session by advocation. Lord Cockburn, on 28th of January, 1842, recalled the interlocutors of the sheriff, advo cated the cause, and decreed in terms of the original with expenses. His Lordship explained the grounds of 4ee.t7 sion, which may be stated generally, that he considered the right of property vested in the appellant, subject to a rig e : . ! to use the streets or roads for the ordinary purposes of "P der ficial access." This interlocutor having been brought under the review of the Second Division of the Court of Sessiontt petition their Lordships, before answer, and reserving all objections to the competency, ordered an issued to be tried by a jury t whether certain roads passing through Dalinlober were Ursidner, the control and superintendence of the road trustees,. maintained and repaired by them. The verdict of the jury w the affirmative of the issue, and the Court below in applYing verdict, altered the interlocutor of the Lord Ordinary, dismissed the original petition, and found the appellant nliabLe in the expenses incurred both in the Sheriff's Court a 4 , 1 . j: brougntr the Court of Session. Hence the present appeal w as complaining of the judgments of the Sheriff and of the Inner complaining \lr. Kelly and Mr. James Anderson were heard in le sxand ruPPV of the appeal ; and the Lord Advocate and 11Ir. A M'Nea!l, of the Scotch bar, were heard for there A t the conclusion of the arguments, j u dgment Their LORDSHIPS stated that they would give their ju in the case on Thursday next. ents The remainder of the day was occupied with th e argils' in the appeal of Cunnin g ham v. Macleod. pondents. POLICE INTELLIGENC. (YESTERDAY.) MA iVSIO N- HO USE. A regular system of plunder has been for some tim e ell . ri s ed s on by boys employed by news-agents, against their Inoasv'eereci through various kinds of forgeries, and it has been disc, rticu that the delinquents actually kept books detailing, tbe P!, was lars of their accounts with each other, from which books i t evident their profits were very considerable. A lad named Thomas Kip. was on Thursday broug,,h,t,ohiffge e the Lord Mnyor, in the custody of a policeman' '"l e , with M charge of having, in one case by himself, and in ether essr s. P the assistance of other lads,plundered his employers, means of Simmonds and Ward, of Cornhill, news-ag ents, by forged tickets and orders. Mr. Simmonds stated that he sent the prisoner, news paper , errand-boy to the firm, to the office of the Times n: t . terwas ils to pay for the insertion of an advertisement, and he_ a lar ger ascertained that the boy had altered the t icket t" amount than had been paid. c i no sionde a nd Charles Pierre Robert, clerk to Messrs. a nt , hego e Ward, deposed that on Tuesday week, begs-h Times' the prisoner 4/. to get an advertisement teu lid the charge The prisoner went away, and, upon his return, sa The nti" would be 6/., and wit ness h an d e d him the 2/. e xtra f • the Tiros, toner brought back a ticket from the office charging 51. 10s., and retu rn ed to witness ten shillings Mr. Robert Cannon of the Times office depos. ticket produced had been given by him, and had °ll5 The Pre" for 5/. Tickets of the kind were given as receipts.ge had no sent ticket had been altered fromsl. 10s. recollection from whom he had received the certainly received no more than b/. • h red ink, to It was said that the addition had been made with ts, but that correspond with Mr. Cannon's writing on the tickew following the figure f fin the forger having used a dirty steel pen , I able. t a l l ' l a sr t be thene the 5 turned quite black, and thus made Paters, was Henry Lowden, another errand -boy to the psose s ct!,. n Xing, the subsequently put to the bar, together with Thonza pbut be former prisoner. had received o a ri o d o s m st b a o te r d of th o a o t p i i n es othfisa the forgery a forged order, and sold them at a reednatieeveinapePr;icfre:.bheYalPtsrei::finnrseirrol'f h o e ea s s a o i f d, th h e ad ki a o l d a . rge foreign connexion, but no London busi to C a . o P o . r d ß o o r b e p r r t od said ( h i , e t w o a s t h a: accustomed t e o ff g e i o y t e : give the bearer four quires of the Pictorial Times, for Si orderspase similart..o monds and Ward. s , C. P. B• " " June 21, Its4s. 3 in Neither that order nor another of the sa me description wa his handwriting. One of them he believed to be in the harts! writing of the prisoner Lowden, and the other in the hand, writing of another boy whom the firm knew. Stephen Anderson, a boy in the employment of Mr. Sawy er, of Pope's Head-alley, newspaper agent, stated, that on Sates day he received the money from Mr. Sawyer to buy a qisr: of the Pictorial Times, and, as he went along, he met t; prisoner King in St. Paul's Church-yard, who asked h ," where he was going. When witness mentioned, King offe s 7l him a quire cheap, and witness gave him 1/. Is. 6c1., the. ' — price, whereupon he gave to witness three halfpence for hir; self. Witness carried the quire to his employer's office. be mentioned to witness, as a cause for selling the papers, tha t t had paid some over money at his office, and they wo uld 00 pay him again, and he had bought the quire to take it out. . s . Mr. Ward, the partner of Mr. Simmonds, stated that the prisoner King admitted that he had sold the quire of at Pictorial Times to the last witness, but he could no t acc°!' for the manner in which he had become possessed of Mr. Simmonds stated that the forged request, or o rder , } ir is duced, dated 23d of May, was in the handwriting of the P r loner an . the C. P. Robe d rt also identified the handwriting of sing' t he order, and said that he had not authorised King to write order. a ge , " Yesterday another of the boys employed by newspaper was taken into custody, and brought before the Lord /11!Sis°rea, Mr. Simmonds stated that the prisoner had been in n sone s'e ployment, and he produced a forged request in the P r ' the copie:. wr Th e g itin for two quires of the Pictorial Times. d e tee' LORD MAYOR said he was happy to see that th e a nd Lion of so nefarious a system of robbery had taken PiahJm on directed that all the pri soners should be brought before will be Monday next, on which occ as i o n several other c har g e' brought forward. raPh ie A person in the empioyment of Mr. Dickenson, lit- 4 s hie printer, Crown -court, Old Broad-street, master with having left his work in an incomplete state. The defendant pleaded guilty. fresPientil The LORD MAYOR—The greatest mischief is • i n te• done by workmen who are careless of their employer advo, terests, and leave their work unfinished if offered Incr e w heel was charged PY tageous terms, or temptation of drink. Those personst'erly I shall take good care always to punish, seem to be i t is, i n isorant of the state of the law. I will tell the m wha" IST order to learn them, on this occasion. By the 4th Ge o ocisog work', chap. 34, sec. 3, it i s s t a t e d th a t p er sons contracting t e raj of and absenting themselves from the service before th s hall the contract, whether that contract be in writing °s o n ', es ied be completed, may be committed to hard labour f a r as,rropor not exceeding three months. It is also stated that , n r nr i s oe, tionable part of the wages, during the time they are f,enish shall be abated ; or in lieu thereof the prosecutor army i•gagel: the offenders by abating the whole or any part of their ether or discharge them from the contract and service altog _ hoti o Now if this most useful law were regularly enforced s t v e e n ' tio to have very little of this general complaint. It is my in ioost commit the defendant under this Act. The defendant appeared t o b e quite bewildered by t h is i le ken• disagreeable intelligence, and looked imploringly at "r. t; / P uni" son, who immediately said that he by no means wished _ienee the defendant by imprisonment, to whatever in conves' might be subjected by the ne g lect of his service . wo bar k The Loan MAYOR—Defendant, are you willinget?,_! le"daet--' to your master, and complete your work ? The d Certainly, my Lord. I shall be very glad to do O. . nde bted The Loan MAYOR—Very well. You are ta u f ront car' to your master for his interposition to prevent me ~ r e ot hing rying the law into effect. If he had not intercedes' bsrged. should have kept you from prison. You are now diss.est.tepr in' The defendant departed humbly, and appare ntly emplo yer, formed upon the subject of his obligation to h is ce ° f the who thanked the Lord Mayor for the tone and sub stan rebuke. the entril, George Poshay, a man who had been trie d at W charge Criminal Court, and been frequently in Bridewell uPr i a n, dar t ing of robbery, was brought b e f o re Sir John Brie, wh ° s un der h° the latter part of the business for the Lord MaY° r, _ following circumstances : she dhe GeGeist e end t lo Mrs. Christie stated that on Thursday ca n ' - sh e • is steam-vessel from Gravesend to London -bridge, a n Whi est aboard a half-sovereign, some silver, and a halfpenniS a p er' she remembered had a hole in it. She was in forme. taloa son on board that she was robbed, and the person s , 3 into custody. ti City Policeman Wollen (No. 9 26) stated that .he w, fe as 7, l `eo a i i • Fenger on board the Gem from Gravesend, with his ' fi asse'' When the vessel got to London bridge the prisoneacionsoidej into her from the Hull steam-packet, which la Y own ° walked over to the lady who prosecuted, raised heri gown "e put his hand into her pocket. Witness immediate y sour prisoner into custody, and found upon him a half soYerels shillings, and a halfpenny with a hole in it. last Sir J. Prete—Well, prisoner, I told you when I you that it would come to this. life b efor' e The prisoner—Never. I never saw you in mYs your nanl Sir J. PI RlE—Why, you have not even ch an g e- remarkable as it is. n or be in g The prisoner —Can't recolle c t ever seeing y ou, trouble afore. • a l tan ke r / Sir J. PIRIE —Perhaps you may know the princhlreosae fo of the Compter, if you don't remembeerne. Go cie rs' has h ee l s ward. Do you know the prisoner ?" Gooch—ssessdes loc tried at the Old Bailey, and I have often had hint an The y t,s ris be on prisoner —Lord IDo you hear that? WhY' o ey O wn my oath I never saw e i t h er o f yo u, and besides, tha s illing ne° -n to money that was took fr me. The husband of the om lady showed extreme tin. sist a! upo n allow his w if e t o prosecute, but Sir John Pine ommitte binding him o ver to produce her at th e trial, and t' tiy i t y an the prisoner, after having highly commended the au cleverness of the policeman --- On the 14th inst., at the Briars, BIRTHS. . f Kennedy, Esq., of Demerara, of a son• the wife ° On the 2:3d inst., at Goodrest Lodge, Bet-ItS, ii • &Ilkley J. M. Praed, Wilton of a son. f John On the 24th inst., in place, the lady °- Lovell, Esq., of a daughter. Hanwell, the lady ofJoba So ( p ) la n i B a ( O k ) r 4 1: sY , Sophia, the wife of Mr. Samuel Welsford. n the Bth of March, at Port Elizabeth, Algo h n ter of James Carnegie, Esq., Athol cizzug bthil,,,ees2q,4.titihoifnolsft,ell.:llaacyth Santauclroacpsbet„nsaitirtaegeet.n, Cruz, Ten eriffe, JoseP ; i ll. ton• On the 13th inst., at Cainden-town, Mr. James lbw -Icsraebs ,Yl°,:duinni'betisr 0, 1 Lcndott: Printed and Published by WIRD () 1- ;,;/„ • 11 9 1 No. ;12, Strand, Printer at Sox Office, o r of Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, irt the C°41:11 Middlesex, Saturday, Aura 29, 1845. The Lei The m liesArs. The] Ceived. 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