The Sun. — London, England, 1839-07-11 00:00:00

VEN - ING EDITION. CI)ILDREN'S FRIEND SOCIETY We give the following st .tements and remarks relative to this Society, made by Sir James Alexander some time ago. The grand panacea for the Cape, he ob serves is labour, and after regretting that the tide of emigration passes by it, he thus proceeds :—" Some time ago a Society was formed in Englaad, for the purpose of conducting the emigration of orphan and other poor, but not depraved, chil dren, from Great Britain to the Colonies ; four hundred and nineteen male juvenile emigrants, and ninety-five girls, have already been taken from the streets of London, where they were reared in the midst of vice and misery, and have been sent to the Cape of Good Hope. The members of this Society, who incur the responsibility of sending these children from their native land, have been at great pains to ascertain the reception the children are likely to meet with in the Colonies to which they may be sent, and accordingly required interrogatories to be satis factorily answered by those who could give the best information, respecting the demand for servants, and the prospect of their meeting with immediate em ployment from persons of good character, before sending abroad the children under their care, so as not to render emigration a mere charge of place, without benefiting the condition of the emigrant youth. The average rate of wages at the Cape for a boy of four teen years of age, engaged in agricultural pursuits, has been about 3L 10s. per annum, on a seven years' itpprenticeship, with good food and clothing, Artisans give about the same ; but the demand for boys by artisans is less than by farmers. In-door servants receive about 41. per annum. Boys are usually bound by indenture, and generally for seven years, or from five to seven years—also a contract legally entered into in Great Britain for services to be performed at the Cape will be enforced in the Colony. There is a con stant demand in Cape Town for the labour of boys, as house servants, grooms, or gardeners. But the supply of this labour from home, should of course be regulated by constant advice from the Colony, which is now given by a Cape Society (for the ma nagement of juvenile emigrants), which communicates with the London Society. The boys who were first sent out, had their passage paid by the masters to whom they were indentured at the Cape, and they re ceived the first year their food, clothing, and washing, besides sixpence or ninepence per week as pocket money, two-thirds of which was invested in the savings' hank for their benefit. That a number of the juvenile emigrants will turn out.weil, there is little doubt, par ticularly those who have not been exposed to much contamination at home, and who fall into good hands at the Cape—others, again, appear quite incorrigible, the vices of lying and stealing seem to be so implanted in them." • These statements, adds the Athenccum, breathe so can did, and i n d ee d i mpart i a l a s pi r it, that they may, we think, Le at once adopted ; and the fair inference is, that admitting the truth of some of the complaints lately made, the great majority of the children sent out are far better, and very few are worse off, than they would have been at home. The chance of bad milsters is one to which apprentices must everywhere be liable. With respect to the non-intercourse, naturally grievous to parents, may it not be suspected, that the boys themselves find other occupations for their leisure time more amusing than letter writing, and other uses for their .2d. or 3d. per week, more to their taste than paying postage ? MR. BURFORD'S PANORAMA OF MALTA, LEICESTER-SQUARE. The island of Malta has lately become very popular from its having been the temporary residence of the Queen Dowager; visited also by Prince George of Cambridge, and though last not least, public attention has been directed to it by what a Noble and Learned Lord would term " the crass and stupid ignorance" of certain lawyers in authority in the isl an d, an d w h ose acts were di scusse d i n P ar l ia ment several times during the present session. From all these causes, Malta has lately been much before the public. The magical touches of Mr. Burfori's pencil, however, will secure for Malta a still more extended popularity, we apprehend. At the priv a t e v i ew o f t hi s magni fi cent an d most beautiful picture which was given on Thursday, there were many distin guished. persons, not a few of whorii had lived on the island, and therefore were well able to pronounce an opinion on the faithfulness of the representation. The Queen Dowager and suite had previously viewed the picture, and expressed their approbation of it in the warmest manner. From a distance the island has the appearance of a well fortified barren rock, but on entering the capacious and noble port, a vi ew b ursts upon the sight at once im posing, picturesque, and interesting in the extreme; a fine expanse of water p resents i tself, transparent as crystal and placid as a lake, covered with innumerable vessels of all sizes, from the proud British man-of-war to the tiny plea sure boat of the Maltese. It is surrounded by an amphithe atre of strong forts and stupendous masses of fortifica tions, sufficient to annihilate the most powerful naval force that could be brought against it. Such is Malta, and Mr. Burford has finely represented it in the picture under our notice. The moment chosen for it is apparently about li wn; the Queen Dowager, in an elegant barge, appears to be returning from a short excursion. In compliment, the yards of the stately British ship the Castor, are manned, flags of all nations flutter in the healthful breeze, all is gaiety and joy, contrasting excellently well with the cool stillness of the water, which Mr. Burford has sue cecded in represeting wi matchles skl. It r fee* illusion; the -n speetator th longs to s jump il . in and enjoy the crystal bath, so, beautiful is . the colouring, so adroitly managed is the perspective. It drew ,forth bursts of ap plause fro m e very visitor. The view of Malta must become a greatfavourite with the public. A DISCOVERY IN THE ARTS. One of the most important recent discoveries is the one applicable to the reprinting of books or reproduction of engravings. M. Dupont, a very industrious printer, was seeking the means of saving the expense of stereotyping. With the assistance of a particular ink he was al ready enabled to avoid the preservation of the cliches, which require many materials, and much space and money, by the means of the preservation of a mere printed sheet which lithography afterwards reproduced when ever it was wanted ; but doubting whether the ink used upon that sheet would retain in the course of time the same properties, he consulted his brother, a very intelligent lithographer, and the latter found what neither ventured to expect. This new process is applicable not only to fresh printed sheets, but likewise to the oldest engravings, to the oldest books, and, which is of far more interest, to Greek, Chinese, and Hebrew books. It consists in two operations. Over the page or engraving of which you want a copy you lay a particular composhion. It is placed upon the lithographic stone and pressed, and the store reproduces, with scrupulous precision, the original engraving or book. This impression could not, how ever, serve such as it is. It is itself covered with the "me preparation, and it may then print thousands of copies by the ordinary processes of every sort of lithography. Fiv e minutes suffice for both operations. The original engraving may be restored to the portfolio which has supplied it, for it has not been in the slightest degree injured ; the book, thus wholly reprinted, may undergo another binding, and honourably resume its place in your library. This new process admits of a reduction of 75 per cent, upon the expence of printing ; and as for engraving, that which on copper would have cost 100 francs, will now cost but 20 francs I What consequences will not this disco very yield I It threatens the graphic arts, engraving and printing, with a complete revolution. A man of the greatest !alent in the arts lays claim to priority in this discovery, as is always the case, when success has been obtained claims come in. The wisdom of the central jury and patent laws must decide the question. In the mean time MM. Du pouts are manufacturing, which is always a great point. On Monday, the King, Queen, Madame Adelaide, and Princess Clementine visited again the exposition, and exa mined the litho-typographic produce of the brothers. His Majesty observing an engraved head of Albert Durer, of 1527, which was wanting in his collection of the Palais Royale, ordered a copy of it, and congratulated MM. Duponts upon a discovery whereby there would no longer be any scarce engravings or books.—Paris Periodical. POST-OFFICE ARRANGEMENTS (DUBLIN), New arrangements for the transmission of the mails between London and Dublin, commenced on Friday last; and by that strange perversity which appears, in many instances, to have directed the management of the post-office esta blishment, the Irish reading public, for whose accommo dation the alteration was professedly made, are studiously excluded from all advantages derivable from the accelerated rate of speed; while the proprietors of the Dublin Evening and Weekly Newspapers are injured to an extent, and damaged to an amount that we trust they will not tamely endure. For the present we shall content ourselves with a simple statement of facts to prove the total disregard evinced for the public, and the absolute injustice inflicted on the Press. When the inland mails were despatched from Dublin at seven o'clock in the evening, newspapers were not required to be put into the Post-office until six, and were received, upon the payment of a small gratuity, until half an hour after that time. Upon the same principle, now that the mails are not dispatched until nine, we should have an extension of time to eight and half-past eight. The London Evening papers and letters will generally be delivered here by seven or half-past seven o'clock ; but in consequence of the arbitrary and unjustifiable order of the officials in Sackville-street, the .contents of these journals, and the proceedings in Parliament down the post hour on the preceding evening, will be rendered utterly unavailable to the whole class of newspaper readers in Ireland ; for if the regulations, acted upon before the alteration in the transmission and receipt of the Erglish mails, were still adhered to (and there is no conceivable reason why they should not, excepting the caprice of some of the clerks), we sho u ld be in sufficient time between seven and eight, or half-past eight o'clock, to forward Second Editions to the country with the news of the previous day.—Dublin Evening Mail. Last spring a gentleman in Waterford procured four cf the recently introduced mange! wurzel potatoes. These four tubers were cut into 36 sets, and planted with the usual quantity of farm-yard manure upon a headland, n drills three feet apart, and leaving twelve inches between each set ; the whole occupying exactly 12 square yards. On being dug out, the produce weighed 1121 b., being at the rate of 35 tons, or 280 barrels of 20 stones each per acre. A new method of preserving iron-work from rust, communicated by M. Paymen to the French Institute, consists in plunging the pieces to be preserved in a mix tore of one part concentrated solution of impure soda (soda of commerce) and three parts water. Pieces of iron left for three months in this liquid had lost ncithcr weight nor polish ; whilst similar pieces immersed for five days in simple water were covered with rust. GERMAN PAPERS. NIMEGUEN, JUNE 20.—We learn from Cleves that the Commission appointed to investigate the affair of the dis turbances which occurred here on the 24th of March, has passed sentence on fifty-five of the persons accused, most of whom it has sentenced to one years' imprisonment. There remain thirteen others, against whom more serious charges are brought. MAESTRICIIT, JUNE 25. M. Commissary Bloernasto arrived here yesterday ; he was appointed to proclaim the Government of the Netherlands in the district of Valten burg. He is highly pleased wi,h the peaceable conduct of the inhabitants, on which account a detachment of Hes sians from Voels, returned to that fortress yesterday. The Dutch and Belgian Commissioners have arrived here. General Prisse, the Belgian Commissioner, wishes to have a house for a year, and he expects six Belgian staff officers to draw the maps and plans for fixing the frontier line. Hence it should seem that the operations of this commission will be of some considerable duration. In Limburg every thing is quiet. Orders for dismantling the fortress of Venloo are daily expected. This morn ing a beginning. was made with the remosing of the can non from the outworks of this fortress. The Bel gian Commissioners have had to-day audience of the Baron Van der Capellen, Conmander. in-Chief of this fortress. AUGSBURG, JUrE 28.—8 y some circumstances, for which we cannot account, we have not received till to day our letters direct from Alexandria, dated sth and 6th June, though they must have been brought by the same steam-boat the arrival of which we announced four days ago. The Journal of the Austrian Lloyd's, (published at Trieste) has news from Alexandria, which is also no later than June 6. All their letters announce that Haiiz Pacha had taken possession of some Turkish villages, and that all kinds of reports were spread to deter the inhabi tants from recruiting, or to encourage them to join the Turks. The accounts in the Royal Austriaco, say that, " Two expresses from Magrim Bey, had brought word that five squadrons of his Arabian cavalry had been attacked and driven back at Telbeschir by the Turkish cavalry, which was much superior in number, and supported by infantry, Immediately on receiving these accounts Ibrahim Pacha set out with seven Regiments of Cavalry and twelve batteries of Horse Artillery, and had already arrived at Telbair, whence he writes that he had given orders to Soliman Pacha immediately to follow him with the main body of the army." The letters say, " Every possible exertion is making to reinforce the army in Syria, and Egypt will soon be without any troops. Conventions have been made with the Bedouins to furnish irregular Cavalry, and as they are paid in advance they have immediately sent 4,000 from the country between Cairo and the Red Sea, and 2,000 from the desert about Alex andria, which are now on their march to Syria ; 6,000 more are to follow. The troops in Candle, 800 in num ber, and 4,000 Candiot Turks, enlisted for the irregular troops are to go to Syria. The same activity prevails in Northern Arabia, where all the Maugrebis and 7,000 Be douins, of different tribes, are partly to join Kerschil Pacha, partly to go to Damascus. It is thought that the Kurd Arabs between Medina and Mecca, who have hitherto been always at war with Mehemet Ali, will now join him, allured it seems by a report that they will be conducted to Stamboul, of the immense riches of which city they have the Most extravagant notions. By ample promises and by money the Druses seem to be wholly gained by Ibrahitn. He has promised the soldiers, with whom he is popular, that all the booty they make shall be their own. Nothing in short is neglected to induce all the tribes to support Me hemet Ali in this most decisive struggle. Ibrahim, in a proclamation to the army, says that the Sultan demands such an or.ormous tribute from Syria and Egypt that if it were paid these countries would be for ever ruined, &c. Extract of a letter from Odessa, 15th ult., quoted by the Commerce :—" The Minister of War has ordered 30,000 men to be detached from the army of the sonth, and marched to Kilia, where transports are waiting to carry them into Asia. A division from the squadron of Admiral Oumanetz has arrived off Bujukdere to protect the landing of these troops. On the other hand, General Rajewsky has received directions to assemble the whole of his corps of 25,000 men at Anapa, and hold them in readiness to embark at a moment's notice, without, in the meantime, acting against the Abases, upon whom the division of General Grabbe is to make war. One of the Emperor's aides-de-camp, who is attached to the army of the Black Sea, is gone to Erivan, where he is to fill the post of chief of the staff of General Patowski, who is there in command of a corps of 40,000 men, destined to march with the Per sian army against Kurschid Pacha. From these measures it will be seen that Russia has resolved to act simul taneously at all points. It is already known that General Duhamel has entered into a treaty with the Shah, agreeing that the Persian army shall march with the Russians against Egypt, and that, in return, the Russians shall assist in reducing the rebels of Herat. The army of the south, along the lines of the Pruth and the Danube, will be, even after the detaching of the 30,000 men above mentioned, 90,000 strong, including the reserve cantoned at Kalish. In Poland, Volhynia, Lithuania, and Cour land, there are 120,000 men, 80,000 of whom are to be collected at Kalish. In the environs of Moscow 150,000 men are collected, under pretence of a review or represen tation of the battle of Borodino, but really to keep the Don Cossacks in awe, and check any revolutionary attempts that may be made in their country. Besides these masses, Russia has on foot the Irsperial Guards, amounting to be tween 35,000 and 40,000, the Grenadier Corps, containing 25,000, and other peculiar corps." VOLUNTARY DUMBNESS.—There is now at Marseilles a man who, for reasons unknown, has con demned himself to perpetual silence. The papers of that city, after stating that neither his relatives nor the police have been able to extract one word from him, ob serve that his singular resolution of playing the dumb was adopted in the last century by a young lady of Pro vence, of the De Julban family, who, being married to a Marquis, never expressed herself otherwise than by signs, from the day on which her ungallant lord interrupted her in the middle of a conversation, and before a large assembly, with " Madame, taisez-vous, vous ne savez le que vous dites." To the hour of her 'death she never uttered one word, though her husband daily implored her to talk from morning to night rather than per severe in a silence which perpetually reminded him of his brutal interruption. The second husband of the cele brated Madame de Steel displayed more good humour when, as is said, being at a large dinner-party, he was visited by his lady with the very ungracious apostrophe —" Monsieur, taisez vous et nourissea vous !" The Nottingham Review pronounces a pane gyric on Mr. Fcargus O'Connor, of which the following sentence is a specimen:—" As an agitator for the ascen dancy of democracy, Mr. O'Connor has not his equal; possessed of talents of the highest order, he has devoted them to the service of the people ; and chosen rather to address the sons of poverty and oppression, than command the attention and admiration of a listening senate." The Dublin Evening Post speaking of the " first of July" says—" We arc truly gratified to learn that the accounts from the North are generally of the most tran quil and satisfactory character. The only exceptions have reference to some assemblages of Orangemen in the neigh bourhood of Newry and Tanderagee ; but even in those places it does not appear that any disturbance took place, owing, no doubt, to the judicious forbearance of the people. The proclamation of the Lord Lieutenant, we have now grounds for believing, produced the tranquillizing effect anticipated by his Excellency, so far, at least, as relates to the first Orange anniversary; and we earnestly hope, that the good sense of the Orangemen will enable us tb con gratulate the country upon the same happy results in regard to the Twelfth of July." CHURCH RATES.—INSOLVENCY.—OR Thurs day in the Insolvent Debtors Court, John Michael D,ll was opposed by Mr. Cooke, on the part of Mr. Saxby and Mr. Stothert, the Churchwardens of Saint Michael's parish, Bath. He was supported by Mr. Woodroffe. The insolvent had been sued by the opposing creditors in the Diocesan Court at Wells for 9s. 4d. for a Church-rate, which he had refused to pay. Judgment had been obtained and he had inserted in the schedule the Churchwardens as creditors for 781., the amount of the rate and the costs. It was alleged that the insolvent had put himself into prison to clear his debts ; his business as a pork-butcher was carried on by his brother ; he had come to London, and was put into prison by a person named Ferrish, who, he said, was a " tailor," but by the other that he was " a helper" at a gin-palace. The insolvent said that his bill was at home in the Fleet Prison. The Court entertained a suspicion that it was a friendly proceeding. and required the attendance of the alleged detaining creditor. The case was adjourned. PROCLAMATIONS OF OUTLAWRY.—Thurs day, Thomas Johnson, Esq., and Thomas Wood, Esq held a County Court in Red Lion-square, when Mr. Hemp, the officer, called upon the several defendants whose names are subjoined. to surrender to the processes existing against them on pain of being outlawed—William Brown Kitchener, at the suit of Thomas Park ; William Nicholas Cole, at William Edward Franks ; Henry Jeffries Longeluse, at John Stevens Hopwood ; Hopkins Kilpin, at William Benson Stones ; Richard Hamilton, at Edward Leigh Pemberton ; Frederick Turner, at Christopher John Pemberton and his wife ; John Charles Bettersworth Tre vanion, and James Trevanion Purnell Bettersworth Treva nion, at William Holloway ; the same at William Henry Savage; John T. P. B. Trevanion, and John C. B. Tre vanion, at James Gibbs; the same at John Goddan ; the same at William Martins; Thomas Acton Woolaston, at George Hicks ; the lion. George William Loftus, com monly called Lord George Loftus, at George Smith ; Alexander Campbell, at Right lion. Lord Rolle, Baron Rolle ; James Pasmore, at John Light ; Thomas Ripon Cleampton, at William Hempson ; William O'Brien Hoare, at Thomas Hancock ; Robert Waller Poe, at Si mon Salter ; Daniel Fleming, at Thomas Ilawkins and another; Hilliam Hatfield Gossip, at Thomas Helms; Sir Charles Lyons Herbert, Knt., at Henry Clark; Charles Du Pre, at Thomas Parke ; Henry Hope Warwick, at Phillip Stuart F. Martin; Jahn Scriven, at same. None of the above parties having obeyed the summons, the Court adjourned until the Ist of August next. THE LORDS' IRISH OUTIiAGES COMMIT TEE.—We understand that Sir William Somerville, Bart., M. P. for Drogheda, who had consented to be examined by their Lordships, received, whilst in the Committe-room, such uncourteous treatment, in the form of a cross-exami nation (we believe by Lord Brougham, who is doing his best to help the Tories), that he immediately took up his hat and left the room, to the no small astonishment, we dare say, of the Committee, who, after considering what should be done, sent him a message to request that he would return, which he did ; when an ample apology was made to him by the Chairman, Lord Wharncliffe, in the name and on the behalf of the Committee.—lllartchestcr Guardian. REPRESENTATION OF IPSWICH.—Sir Thomas mr..of Gibson,g rat whong the has spleen Cochrane has be en i n d uce d to p l ay t h e pu pp e t f o r the pur poselpswich Tories sin of ies l against committedof the uthe refusing to compromise his conscience and sacrifice his honour for the sake of gratifying the extreme section of the Tory party. Let Sir Thoma s look to his purse—there will be larger demands upon - pared to expect. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, JULY _10.; The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Petitions in favour of Mr. R. Hill's plan of penny postage were presented by Mr.Wilbraham from Congle ton, Lord \\Torsley, from Buckingham, and Mr. V. Smith, from Northampton. Lord WORS LEY presented two petitions in favour of the Government plan of education, and one pray inc, that foreign corn m i g ht be a ll o wed to be ground in bond for exportation. Mr. BROTHERTON presented a petition from the stuff manufacturers of Bradford, praying that care might be taken to have the interests of this country pro perly represented in the ensuing meeting of the Commer cial League, to be held in Berlin. Mr. G. PALMER presented a petition from the Postmasters in Essex, praying for protection against steam, by a reduction of the duty imposed upon their trade. Mr. O'CONNELL presented petitions from New Ross and New Wexford against the monopoly of the Bank of Ireland. Lord G. SOMERSET presented a petition praying for protection to, and an extension of, the Church in the colonies ; and two petitions against the Government plan of education. The Marquis of Cholmondeley's Estate Bill was read a second time. Lord SANDON presented a petition from Mr. Wil liams, the Director of the Dublit. Steam-packet Com pany, praying that no' clause may be inserted in the Shannon Navigation Bill to vitiate the agreement be tween that Company and the Grand Canal Company. Mr. FINCH presented a petition from certain elec tors of the borough of Ludlow, praying that they may be allowed to enter into recognizances to defend the seat of Mr. Alcock. Mr. WAKLE Y presented several petitions from Finsbury in favour of a uniform penny postage ; a peti tion from a person named Richard M'Cormick, com plaining of having been dismissed from the army, and offering to prove at the bar that a robbery in that de partment is perpetrated on the country to the ex tent of 200,0001. a year ; a petition from New castle in favour of the Ballot, &c., and praying the House to withdraw its confidence from her Majesty's present advisers—(Hear, hear, from Colonel Sibthorp)—who by their hollow insincerity—(Hear, hear) —broken promises, desertion of Reform, subser viency to foreign nations, and insidious designs against their own countrymen, have proved themselves as un worthy the confidence of the House as of the people.— (Hear, hear.) Colonel SIBTHORP cordially supported the latter part of the prayer of the petition.—(Laughter, and cries of " Order.") Mr. P. THOMSON presented a petition from the silk•manufacturers of Manchester, praying that the clauses in the Factory Bill, applicable to cotton, might not apply to silk. Sir S. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from the Vestry of Shoreditch against the Collection of Rates Bill. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice that on going into Committee of Supply on Monday next, he would move an Address to her Majesty, in order to find out the best means of communication between London and Dublin. _ . . ..... Mr. L ABOUC HERE presented papers. In doing so, he begged leave to say, that he had been in error yesterday in saying that Sir John Colborne had not expressed any opinion respecting the continuation of the powers of the Council of Lower Canada. In look ing over the despatches, he found the Gallant Officer had expressed a very strong opinion on the point. He had just laid it on the table, and he hoped it would lie in a printed shape in the hands of Members to-morrow. In answer to Mr. BAINES, Mr. P. THOMSON said the approaching meeting of the nations, comprising the Commercial League, had been most anxiously considered by the Government. It was not their intention to send an officer of the rank of an envoy, but a gentleman would be there from this country of commercial abilities, who would watch over and inform the Government of what was necessary to be done. In answer to a question from Lord SANDON, Lord PALMERSTON said the Government had not lost sight of the claimants on the Portuguese Go vernment, and they would continue to press upon the Portuguese Government the necessity of a speedy set tlement. He was not prepared to say anything respect ing the formation of the Commission, but he had re ceived no complaints respecting it, and he knew of two claims which had lately been settled. The NOBLE LORD obtained leave to bring in a Bill for the suppression of the slave trade under the Portuguese flag. In answer to a question from Lord SANDON, Sir J. C. HOB HOUSE stated that the Govern ment of India had shown every disposition to at tend to the recommendation of the Committee, with respect to the salt monopoly ; and the alteration that had taken place in conformity with the recommen dation appeared to work well. With respect to the in troduction of British salt into India, that was a totally different question ; but he had no objection to lay before the House any information that was in the possession of the Board of Control on this subject. On the Report of the Committee of Cuppty, Mr. HUME asked on what day the subject .of the Irish Bank was to be brought forward ? The Chancel lor of the Exchequer had promised to fix a day for the consideration of this most important question. Mr. P. THOMSON (in the absence of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer) said his Hon. Friend had better give the Right Hon. Gentleman notice. Mr. HUME—Oh, I have often enough. On the vote for the expenses of the Commissioners for Insolvent Debtors, Captain PECHELL said, the Commissioners for Sussex had thought fit to hold their sittings at Lewes, though the debtors were all confined at Horsham, thirty miles off, thereby inflicting great additional expense on the county. Ought this to be allowed? Mr. F. MAULE said the matter should be con sidered. Mr. 'F. DUNCOMBE asked when it was proposed to proceed with the Poor Law Continuation Bill. The answer of Lord JOHN RUSSELL was inau dible in the gallery. METROPOLIS POLICE BILL. On the Order of the Day being read for the House resolving itself into Committee on the Metropolis Po lk e Bill, Capt. WOOD said that the Right. Hots. Gentleman opposite had promised to exempt certain of the county districts from the operation of this Bill, but he had hitherto neglected to do so. He wished to ask him what course he intended to adopt. Mr. F. MAULE :said he had introduced certain clauses into the Bill which would have the effect of exempting them distinctly from its operations. Mr. HUME wished to ask the Noble Lord if her Majesty's Government would consent to the proposi tion he bad made, some time since, that instead of placing the payment of the police on the Consolidated Fund, it should be made the subject of an annual vote, as it was wanted. He understood that the Chancellor of the Exchequer bad been willing to accede to his proposition. The Bill had gone through Com mittee very late the other night, and he had not an opportunity of proposing the introduction of a clause to that effect. He wished to ask the Noble Lord whether, as he was in the habit of ordering the police wherever their services might be required, be did not propose the expenses of this force should be voted annually, in the ame way ass the army or the navy ? He did not object to tho a mount he wished the force to be maintained in an an efficient state ; but be wished It - to be by annual vote ; for instance, he was inclined to quarrel with the proceedings at Birmingham, but at present he had not the requisite information on the subject—but if this were made the subject of an annual vote, all discus sions as to the conduct of the police could take place at the same time. He wished to know if the Noble Lord would agree to his proposition. Lord JOHN RUSSELL considered that such a course would be very inconvenient, and could not accede to the proposition of the Hon. Gentleman. Mr. HU ME would 'then ask the Noble Lord when it would be most convenient to take the sense of the, House on this subject, as lie was determined to do so. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the best way for the Hon. Member to bring the question forward, would be to move for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the Act of Parliament constituting the police. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE wished to ask the Noble Lord, the Secretary for the Home Department; whether the accounts in this Morning's Papers of the riots at Birmingham and the conduct of the police were correct or not. If they were, he thought there could be nothing more disgraceful or unconstitutional than the conduct of the police, and the sooner they were withdrawn from Birmingham the better. The account stated that the assembly was perfectly quiet, and that there was no disposition whatever to riot till the police appeared— that whenever the police had seen crowds assembled they had commenced an indiscriminate attack. " Lord M A HON—What paper ? Mr. DUNCOMBE—The Morning Chronicle. Lord JO Il N RUSSELL entirely disbelieved the account.—(Hear, hear.) lie bad received letters from the Mayor of Birmingham, whose statements were of an entirely different nature, and it appeared that the town was nearly restored to its ordinary state of quiet, and that business was going on in its usual course. Mr. DUNCOMBE—Then we are to understand that no persons were wounded by the police ? Lord J. RUSSELL said it was impossible to know what might be the statements in the Morning Papers, and therefore no positive contradiction could be given ; but in the letters which he bad received there was no mention of the circumstances to which the Hon:Member had alluded. Mr. WILLIAMS inquired if the Noble Lord had any objection to state what accounts he had received. Lord J. RUSSELL had stated on Monday that the Magistrates had received information that large numbers of persons were congregated together with bludgeons, THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY, JULY 11, 1839. in certain parts of the town, and that they had endea voured to induce persons employed in the colleries in the neighbourhood to come in with arms, but the police had entirely dispersed them. The Metropolitan Police Bill was then re-committed. On the report of a money clause being brought up, Mr. HUME said he objected to these payments being made out of the Consolidated Fund, as it removed all the constitutional checks. What he wished was that the payment should be made annually by the House, and that the House should have the oppor tunity of canvassing and discussing the vote. The transactions at Birmingham showed that they were wrong, and the sooner they retraced, their steps the better. In former times the Secretary of State directed the military to aid the civil power in any place where such aid was wanted. But this was a new power, serving the purposes of the military. Under these circumstances it was but fair and reasonable that that House should have an opportunity of annually canvassing the vote for their payment. It never was contemplated that they should be sent scouring through the country—not one word was said about that while the Bill was going through the House for the formation of the force. He saw no difference between a red coat and a blue one. He therefore moved that the 13th clause be omitted. Lord J. RUSSELL said the force was not one ex tending into the country, except upon particular occasions, whether voted in the supplies or not, the country had a right to expect that the aid of the civil force should on all occasions, when it was required, be available. And he (Lord J. Russell) was much better satisfied with the application of the metropolitan police force, thaii with the employment of that force which, twenty years ago, was used with much more lamentable effect at Manchester.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME said his objection was to the allowing a force to be at the disposal of the Crown, without the knowledge and consent of Parliament. It was equiva lent to that. Certainly the civil force should be on all occasions tried to the utmost extent before the military were called in. With regard to the Birmingham affair, he could not express an opinion till the truth had been more satisfactorily arrived at. Mr. HAWES said his Hon. Friend was mistaken in his facts. The greater portion of the expense of the metropolitan police fell on the rates ; and the effect of rejecting this clause would only be, that the whole ex pense would be thrown on the Metropolitan districts. His Hon. Friend, to attain his object—that of placing the police force under the control of the House, just as the army was, by estimates regularly voted in Com mittee—must take another course. Mr. FOX MAU LE said both Hon. Members were mistaken. Mr. HUME said if the House supported him in re fusing this additional sum he should then bring in a Bill on the subject. Mr. BROTHERTON said if the Hon. Member for Kilkenny divided the House on the question he should divide with him. He did not see the justice of the country being taxed for the support of the metro politan police. He agreed with the Hon. Member for Kilkenny, that in cases of disturbances it was better to employ the police than the military. Captain WOOD thought the amount should be de frayed by an annual vote, in order that the subject might constantly be brought before the House. Mr. S. O'BRIEN supported the amendment. He participated in the jealousy with which a police force, entirely dependent upon a Secretary of State, should be regarded, Mr. E WART believed the Hoe. Gentleman's mo tion-to be, in principle, whether the police force should he paid out of the Consolidated Fund, or by a vote of Parliament. In his opinion, the latter would be much more constitutional, and it would render them much more efficient to identify them with the people. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Committee divided, when there.appeared— For the clause Against it 25 Majority in favour of the clause —B2 Mr. WILLIAMS rose to object to clause 27, but gave way to Mr. WAKLEY, who wished to know how the interests of certain of the officers of the police offices would be affected by clauses 20 and 21 of this Bill. They were of opinion that, by those clauses they would be excluded from the courts of the public offices— they had no wish to throw any obstruction in the way of the Bill, but they wished to be informed how they would be affected, and if the Bill were destructive to their interest, they trusted the House would award them some compensation. Mr. FOX MAULE was of opinion that their interests would not be at all affected by the clause in question. Mr. WILLIAMS objected to clause 27, imposing a penalty of one month's imprisonment on a person as saulting the police in the execution of their duty, or in citing others to do so. He objected to the clause, seeing the character in which the police had acted.— (Hear, hear, hear.) They were taken amongst the people without any intimation, and commenced an at tack. The people, knowing nothing of them, resisted. Now under this Bill, a person raising his arm merely to defend himself from a blow would be liable to imprisonment ; and could it be supposed that the Magistrates at Birmingham under the. present eircusn seaeaas.aeame;ecaient, would not Convict in such a case ?' His objection, however, rested principally on the abuse which might arise out of the clause, and from his feel ing apprehensive that the police force might frequently be called upon to act at a distance. He should, there fore, move the rejection of the clause. Lord J. RUSSELL said he could not agree to argue every clause of the Bill over again.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. T. DUN COMBE said it was understood the clauses were to be gone through again. It was of no use goinginto Committee unless they went through them. It was a new power, for it was giving the power to one Justice to fine a person .51. with the power of imprison ment. The law now is that he shall he taken before two Magistrates, but without the power of imprisonment. Mr. F. MAULE said he had said that clause 67 should be discussed again, but he had never consented to discuss the whole of the clauses. Colonel SIBTHORP certainly understood that t understanding was as stated by the Hon. Gentleman. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL could assure Hon. Gentlemen that the Bill wouid only have effect in the metropolis and no where else. Mr. HARVEY thought it was a very good clause, because it gave the Magistrate a discretionary power of imprisonment, and so brought down the rich man to the level of the poor one. Mr. WILLIAMS contended that the clause applied to the police who were sent to Birmingham as well as to those in town. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL could assure him it did not. The police who went to Birmingham went merely as special constables. The clause was then agreed to. Clause 28 was postponed. On clause 29 being proposed, WAKLEY objected to it on the ground that he did not think that was a proper time to make any addi tion to the salaries of the C o mmissioners. The Right Hon. Baronet thought 8001. was a sufficient salary for them at a time when all their labours must have been severe, at the time when three months' labour must have been more severe than one year's now. He would divide the House if he stood alone. Mr. O'CONNELL would certainly divide against him—there was no better principle than to pay ex tremely well when you are served extremely well. Sir R. PEEL having been so pointedly appealed to would state that he most cordially approved of the propo sition of the Government. Rethought it no reproach to an economical Government -chat they made suitable rewards for meritorious services. When he brought forward the Bill establishing the force, he had not that support which he might have had, had it not been so soon after the Catholic Relief Bill was passed, and at the time he did not know whether it might succeed: Ho then stated that it was an experiment, and he hoped that some future Government, whether he belonged to it or not, would increase the salaries, for he thought them too low, and he was obliged to the Government for their proposition. The increase had emanated entirely from the House. During the whole of the time he had connec tion with them, they never once hinted that they wished for any increase. Sir R. INGLIS had opposed the formation of the force, but subsequent experience had converted him, and he would support the motion, Lord JOHN RUSSELL was quite sure that there could be but one opinion in the House with respect to the manner in which the Commissioners had performed their duty, and he could bear testimony to the fact that ever since he had held the office of Secretary for the Home Department they had not once adverted to any increase of their salaries. Colonel SIBTHORP had also opposed the forma tion of the force, but he was now p er f ect l y sa ti s fi e d with it. As the Hon. Member for Finsbury could not agree in the raising of the salaries from 8001. to 1,2001. he was afraid he would not support him (Colonel Sib thorp) in the proposition he felt it hi s d uty to ma k e . Many of the Super i ntendents were taken to the large towns in the country, where they obtained much larger salaries, even to more than double. The Superinten dents were not paid at all equal to clerks in the civil departments. They received only 2001., the Inspec tors 1001. only. He Proposed to make the Superin tendent's salary 2501.,. the I ns p ec t or ' s 150/. ; an d t o raise the pay of a Serpent from 225. 6d. to 235. 6d. ; and to give the man 20s. in place of 195., as a stimu lus to the whole. Mr. FOX MAULE, in reply t o th e G a ll an t C o l o nel, said he did not think the pay which the police at pre sent received was too low, but as any increase in the salaries would fall on the rate-payers, and as the rate payers had not show n any desi re t o i ncrease th e pay of the police, h e thought the House should not give any countenance to the proposition. Mr. PRYME said they ought to put the police above the temptation of a bribe. The police underwent great fatigue —they were often worn out and exhausted, and he did not think their present pay was an adequate remuneration. Mr. WILLIAMS would support the amendment of the Hon. Member f or Fi ns b ur y. lie considered the conditi on of the finances as well as the condition of the people, who paid taxes for the maintenance of those officers, was not such as to warrant an increase in the salaries of any person. Let the House look at the condition of the working classes. Many could not get employment, and those who did had to work 14 or 15 hours a day for Bs. or 9s. a week, and the House had managed pretty well to throw the taxes on ' those articles that were consumed by the working classes. He would oppose not only an increase in the salaries of the Police Commissioners, but in all salaries. There was no disposition towards economy on the part of the present Government. He had scarcely seen an instance of their proposing a reduction of salaries—( Hear)—but whenever the question of salaries was brought before the House by the Government, it was always accompa nied with a recommendation to increase them.—( Hear, hear.) He thought it was time for the House to make a stand against all such propositions, and he hoped his Hon. Friend (Mr. Wakley) would divide the House • upon this question. Mr. ESTCOUR T had always been an admirer of the police system. The labours of the Commissioners were very great, and were likely to be increated by the extension of the police district. He should support the increase of salary. Mr. BRISCOE thought the addition proposed was not a greater remuneration than the Commissioners were entitled to. Mr. WAKLEY thought it was the duty of the House to be just to the public before it was liberal to individuals.—(Hear.) He was not surprised at the Right Hon. Baronet opposite (Sir R. Peel), supporting an increase in the salaries of the Commissioners, for he believed that if the proposition bad been to allow them 2,0001. a year, the Right Hon. Baronet would have supported it.—(A laugh.) He knew the House was ready to vote away the money on every occasion, ex- cept it was for the education of the people.—(Hear.) His (Mr. Wakley's) object was to show to the people what the character and conduct of the House on these subjects was, and he was satisfied that the more the people saw the disposition and feel ing of the House, the more general would be come the cry throughout the kingdom for a thorough Reform. It was impossible for them to make their property secure by paying the police well—they must have the confidence of the people ; and if, at a time when the labouring people were hardly remunerated for their industry, the public money was voted away to in crease the salaries of officers, it was scarcely possible to predict what would become of those great interests that ought to be held together for the mainte nance of the integrity and power of the nation. The present proposal was a specimen of what the Government were prepared to do in the way of increas ing public salaries. Since he had been in the House he never recollected hearing a proposition made for decreasing the salaries of public officers, although on multitudinous occasions had propositions been made for increasing them. No proof was shown that the labours of the Commissioners would be increased. But if the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) had held out to those gentlemen, when they first accepted their offices, that there would at a future period be an increase, or had made any engagement to that effect, then he (Mr. W.) would at once withdraw his motion. But if they accepted the office without any such engagement having been made, then he did think, c ons id er i ng th e s t a te o f the finances of the country, this was not the time to make an increase in salaries. Sir IL PEEL felt bound to say that nothing of the sort had ever been held out to the Commissioners by him. Mr. SANFORD observed that the present Govern ment had proposed a reduction in the salaries of all the great Officers of State. Air. HUME having been a member of the Police Committee, would state that every Member in that Committee had recommended an increase in the salaries of the Commissioners. He concurred in that recommendation, and was prepared to support the vote. The present Bill would greatly augment their duties, and the proposition now made, was only a fair remuneration. Mr. FIEL DEN would support the Honourable Member for Finsbury: The House would recol lect that an inquiry was instituted by the House on the motion of his late colleague (Mr. Cobbett) out of which the police did not come very clear, for it. was fully established that the man named Popay had been employed as a spy. The system adopted by the Com missioners of sending spies throughout the country was only calculated to create anarchy and confusion. The police had been established for the purpose of coercing the people, and he trusted the Hon. Member for Fins bury would persevere in dividing the House on the proposition now made. Mr. HAWES said that not one shred of the case at first stated by the late Member for Oldham (Mr. Cobbett) was supported before the Committee to which the Honourable Gentleman who had just sat down had alluded. On the contrary, it had utterly failed. The Report of that Committee stated that the conduct of the Commissioners was highly honourable, and that the men deserved the approbation of the public. Mr. FIELDEN explained. He would rather trust to the evidence on which the Report was founded than to the Report. itself- -.- - The gallery was then cleared for a division, when the numbers were— For the clattse .... 87 For the amendment 7 Majority in favour of the clause —Bo Clause 50, which allowed coffee-houses in the neigh 1-ourhood of public markets to b 3 opened at an earlier hour than public-houses, was struck out, as was clause 51. On clause 53 being proposed, Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said it was extremely ob jectionable to the licensed victuallers, inasmuch as it prohibited publicans supplying persons with liqnor under 14 years of age. Mr. F. MAULS said the proposed amendments had been assented to by the parties interested. Mr. D. W. HARVEY had presented a petition from the Chairman and Committee of the Licensed Victuallers, in which they particularly called the atten tion of the House to this clause, and spoke of it as sub jecting the trade to vexatious proceedings by informers. What they suggested was, that the word " apparently" should be introduced, so that when a case came before a Magistrate the question might be raised whether the party might not have been led into an error. Mr. AGLIONBY said, if the word " apparently" was introduced, the word " knowingly" must be struck out. After some discussion, Mr. T. DUNCO MBE said that he had the honour of dining the other day with 3,000 licensed victuallers —(Laughter)—who, one and all, requested him to en • deavour to get the present clause expunged. Why not go to twenty-cnc at once, instead of drawing the line of culpability—between the ages fourteen and sixteen. Mr. LAW hoped that all dubious words would be left out of this clause, otherwise the most indecorous scenes would take place at police-offices, on the ques'ion arising whether a girl was 14 or 16 years old ; police constables would be controverting each other's opinions as to what age the girls' appearance suggested. Mr. WAKLEY said the only way to be certain on such a point was not to employ uninitiated persons. The Magistrates must employ doctors.—(Laughter.) Ultimately it was agreed that the responsibility of publicans should extend to the age of 16. Mr. DU NCOMBE now moved that the Com mittee divide as to whether the whole clause be ex. punged or not. Strangers, therefore, were ordered to withdraw. Upon the division there were for the clause 29 Against it 2O Majority -9 Mr. FOX MAULE sirggested that clause 54, which regulates the assembling of certain persons in public houses, would be a great improvement. It was copied from the Liverpool Police Act. Mr. EsTcoußT thought the clause not ne cessary. Mr. lIAWES. thought the risk of losing their licenses would keep the publicans under restriction enough.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. LAW, in reply to Mr. F. Manic, said that there was not an infringement upon the liberty of the subject which might not be extracted from some local Act.—(Laughter.) Several Members opposed the clause altogether. The Committee, therefore divided upon it— ' The numbers were for the clause Against it Majority... —if Mr. HUME observed that he thought in the clause prohibiting " unlawful" games, there should be some definition of what were " unlawful" games. Was cribbage unlawful.—(A laugh.) Mr. WAKLEY hoped the word "common" gaming house would be omitted. Lord HO W ICK said the object was to guard against vexatious interference with private houses. Mr. WAKLEY asked why, then, poor boys should be liable, for betting or gaming, with a tossing of halfpence, &c. in the streets, to a penalty of five shill ings. The police might, in fact, under this Bill, seize persons betting at Tattersall's, or on a race course. Mr. F. MAULE would inquire whether the Hnn. Member were not aware, how prejudicial bad habits proved, and that boys who began with tossing half pence on a tomb -stone, generally ended badly?—(Hear.) The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said these acts were now unlawful. Mr. CLAY doubted if we were not becoming rather pharisaical in our legislation, and whether it was not straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel, to subject a poor man to a penalty of five shillings for tossing up, after a hard day's work, who shall pay for a pint of beer. —(Hear, hear.) He could not agree to the clause, un less it were limited to gaming with any instrument or table, &c. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said the clause wceld then be uselass, for it would only be the law as it now steed. 1 Colonel WOOD said it would be r idiculous that a boy " tossing up" inside a house should do it with Im punity, while a boy tossing up outside a house should be liable to a penalty of five shillings. Mr. ESTCOURT said the habit of gaming was pernicious, whether for money or not. Mr. C. BULLER objected to giving the police so vague a power, to interfere with a practice generally, in the custom of the country, considered harmless.— (Hear, hear.) Take, for instance, the case of betting on a division—l meet a Tory in St. James's street— he says, " We shall have a majority on the Education question ;" I'll bet you so-and-so you'll not." Why, a police officer might carry us both to the Magistrates. —(Laughter.) Or suppose betting in this House— it is a public •house—(Laughter)—and there is scarcely a great division in which I don't pick up a shilling or two in an honest bet-4 Loud laughter)—yet under the words " or betting,' this would be unlawful. Mr. FOX MAULE would have no objection to leave out the words " or betting." Captain WOOD thought bets of the nature alluded to were very culpable. Mr. HUME thought, if it were considered advisable to remedy the vices of the age it should be made the subject of a general Bill, but he objected to making that a crime in one place which was not so in another. Mr. WAKLEY would suggest the propriety of ex punging the clause altogether , as there was no difference in pri nc i p l e between that and the present law. He had seen the metropolitan police on Epsom Downs, where gaming tables were in active operation, and the police did not interfere. Mr. FOX MAULE—They bad no power to inter fere. Mr. WAKLEY—Then why are they there? Mr. FOX :MULE—Because they were applied for by the Stewards, to prevent accidents and to keep order, but by law they ltave no power to interfere with gaming tables. Mr. LAW thought it desirable, if the Vagrant Act were defective, that it should be amended, but he did not see why a measure of such a stringent nature should be introduced, applicable solely to the Metro politan districts. Mr. E. TURNER said he understood it was proposed by this clause to make it illegal to toss pence ; he wished to know if it would be illegal to play quoits ? Mr. G. W. WOOD said playing at quoits was a game of skill, but chuck-farthing was a game of hazard. Then question was then put, and the words " or bet ting " were ordered to be struck out of the clause. Mr. AGLIONBY asked what was the meaning , of " any other public place"—was it a street, or such a place as Tattersall's, or the Hippodrome, or any other place of public amusement? because if it were the latter, all sorts of games would be prohibited. _ _ The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the words " public place" were to be considered as synony mous with the word thoroughfare. Mr. HUME said that it really was a clause intended to put down chuck-farthing, and it ought to be so stated. Was it fit that the House should spend three hours in legislating about chuck-farthing ? Mr. C. BULLER could not judge whether the in tention of the clause was to put down obstructions to the public thoroughfare, or to put down gambling. What was the meaning of the Solicitor-General's ar gutnent ? At Harrow-on-the-Green, by the road-side, the rustics were in the habit of playing quoits—now if they betted a pot of porter on the game it would be against the law according to the Solicitor-General's opinion. Although his Honourable Friend, on his suggesting that the words on betting would effect gen teel people, bad very properly consented to withdraw them—(A laugh)—yet he agreed with the Learned Recorder of London that the clause should be ex punged. Mr. CLAY moved the omission of the clause. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Committee divided, when there appeared— For the clause 27 Against it Majority against the clause —9 On the next clause being put relative to gaming in gaming -houses, its omission was moved. Mr. HAWES thought the Bill might be as well given up altogether as to :omit the clause. Mr. F. MAULE defended the clause from the help of Mr. Hawes. Mr. LAW objected to the clause in its present shape. Mr. AGLIONBY said the clause was so vague, that he would defy any magistrate or lawyer to act upon them. Mr. DARBY thought, as far as common gaming houses were concerned, the clause would be extremely beneficial. Colonel THOS. IN 00D, notwithstanding all that had been said by the Hon. Member for Lambeth, con sidered the clause as perfectly useless. The clause, as amended, was then agreed to. Clauses 61 and 62 were, after some discussion, agreed to. Clauses 63, 64, and 65 were agreed to without ob servation. On clause 66 being read, Colonel WOOD proposed the insertion of the words 44 within the weekly Bills of Mortality, all the streets of any town within the metropolitan police districts." His object was to confine the operation of the clause to towns, and prevent their extending to the rural districts. Mr. F. MAULE objected to the insertion of the words. Colonel WOOD reminded the Hon. Member that he had given a pledge when the Bill was last before the House that he would devise means. to prevent the clause extending to the rural districts. Mr. F. MAULS said the Hon. and Gallant Mem ber was mistaken. His promise referred to the 68th, and not to the 66th clause. He wished to expktin to the Committee that the clause contained 19 sections, every one of which was at present the law of the land ; but his object was to bring them all together, so that it could be ascertained at once what was the po lice law, instead of being obliged to refer to various Acts of Parliament. Mr. C. BULLER alluded to the preposterous state of the police law, under which a police constable durst not take up a man for an assault unless he saw it com mitted. Colonel Rowan had told him that such was the case. He thought a general power should be given to the police to take persons into custody upon a charge; whether the constable should have witnessed the com• mission of the offence or not. Mr. LAW proposed the introduction into the clp.use of the words " any person who in the view of such con stable." • Mr. AGLIONBY said it would be better first to decide the principle as to the permitting constables to take into custody on the charge of persons complaining of having been aggrieved or assaulted. He was in favour of that principle, and would propose the introduc tion of words to carry that principle into effect. Mr. Alderman HUMPHERY objected to Colonel Wood's amendment, as by confining the operation of the clause to the Bills of Mortality it would exclude Greenwich, Woolwich, Bromley, and other large places. • After a few words from Mr. HUME and Mr. FOX M AU LE, Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Committee divided on Col. Wood's amendment, when there appeared— For Col. Wood's amendment l9 Against it Majority against the amendment —6l Mr. AGLIONBY then moved the amendment of which be had given notice to empower the police con stable to take a party into custody on the complaint of the party aggrieved. Mr. J. JERVIS objected to the amendment. It would give rise to a most vexatious interference with the liberty of the subject, and unless the Hon. Secretary meant to change the law altogether, he hoped he would not sanction it. Mr. J. JERVIS moved the omission of the words " feed or fodder any horse." On which the Committee divided, when there ap peared— For the omission Against it Majority in favour of the words re maining part of the clause The remaining sections of clause 86 were then agreed to, and the clause ordered to stand part of the BM. On clause 67 being read, Mr. T. DUNCOM 13E moved the insertion of a passage, to the effect that persons of the higher classes found drunk in the streets should be sent to the House of Correction, for a period not exceeding seven days. The amendment was negatived without a division. Alderman THOMPSON objected to the clause altogether. It was unjust to say that in cases of drunkenness Magistrates made one law fort he p oor and another for the rich. He had been a Magistrate of London twenty years, and had alway s seen drunkards of all classes impartially dealt with. He thought the law as it now stood was sufficiently severe. Ile would divide the House on the clause. The Committee then divided — For the omission of the clause 5 10 For retaining it Majority ........................... — 47 Mr, BROTHERTON moved that the Chairman do report progress, as it was now one o'clock. Sir B. HALL supported the motion of the Hon. Member for Salford. Mr. FOX MAULE thought as the discussion would not occupy much longer he might be permitted to proceed. Mr. WAKLEY said that as the Bill had gone through Committee previously, and it was an act of courtesy on the part of the Right Hon. Gentleman to permit the discussion to be renewed that evening he thought he ought to be permitted to proceed. - Mr. BROTHERTON then withdrew his thotion. Clause 68 was then agreed to with sundry amend ments calculated to prevent its affecting the rural dis tricts vexatiously. Clause 69, with some verbal amendments, was then agreed to. Clauses up to 86 were agreed to. EVENING EDITION. Mr. FOX MAULS brought up a clause enacting that children found riding behind carriages should be taken into custody, and after a time delivered into the hands of their parents or guardians. Mr. WAKLEY was very glad to see this clause in troduced. Children were constantly coming to the hospitals afflicted with severe injuries in consequence of falling from carriages which they had mounted in this manner. The clause was agreed to. Mr. FOX MAU LE brought up a new clause for the prevention of dogs being harnessed to carts. Mr. WARBURTON said that positively dogs were better treated than any other class of four-footed ani mrls. No dogs went mad from over-working. Mr. WA KLE Y said the direct contrary was the fact. Hydrophobia had increased very much within the last ten years, as the yoking of dogs to carriages had increased. The dog carts very much frightened horses in the streets. The clause was agreed to. Mr. S. O'BRIEN moved a clause providing for an nual returns of the police force.—Agreed to. The remaining clauses of the Ell were agreed to, and the report was ordered to be brought up on Friday. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter-past Two o'Clock. THE MIDDLESEX COUNTY RATE AND LUNATIC ASYLUM. All our readers have heard of the vast increase which, within a few years, has taken place in the Middlesex County Rate, and they have also heard that a prodigious sum has been expsnded on the Lu natic Asyjum at Hanwell. We refreshed their memory on these topics a short time back by copying some articles from the Examiner, and more iight has now been thrown on the subject by a pamphlet just pub lished, by J. G. Millingen, M.D., A.M., late Superin tendent of the Asylum. It has the form of" A letter to the Rate payers," though we are afraid that they are not generally likely to learn any thing of its contents un less we blow them abroad. Dr. Millingen begins by ac knowledging that he has been obliged to resign the situ ation of Superintendent, but be shows very clearly that the necessity arose from a series of petty vexations and annoyances such as no gentleman placed in,a re sponsible situation would endure. He was thwarted by sub ordinates, both male and female, who were encouraged in their misconduct by others. He reminds the rate pas ers that Sir W. Ellis and his Lady, whose reputation was very great,had to resign from similar treatment ; he publishes the excellent testimonials which prove that he did not receive the appointment without being in every way worthy of it. We shall occupy ourselves less with the individual griefs than with the public mis management—though wherever injustice is to be redressed, the Press does great public servi ce by mak ing cases of individual hardship known. Iu this case, however, the case of the individual and the public in terest are so blended, that in quoting chiefly those pas sages which refer to the mismanagement, we shall sup ply the reader with a clue to the circumstances which caused Dr. Millingen to resign. He says : " Upon joining the establishment, I endeavoured to dis cover what were the:circumstances that had induced my ' predecessor to resign, and I soon found that the Com mittee had allowed him, during the space of seven years, to assume the sole controul of the institution ; that during this period no accounts appeared to have been kept, by which the visiting justices, the bench of magis trates, or the rate-payers, could. check the consump tion of the enormous sums of money expended on the Asylum ; no document being in'existence, excep ting books of general receipt and expenditure, with out any inventory, stock-book, or accounts, by which the specific application of these sums appeared; that during this long period, the first eighteen reports to the county had never been published, while the twentieth, twenty first, twenty-second, twenty-fourth, and twenty-fifth re ports were merely statements for the satisfaction of the magistrates, without any account of the items of con sumption. " It was then that the Committee resolved to place the financial and economical arrangements of the Institution in the hands of a steward experienced in the management of public institutions, well versed in accounts, with acknow ledged practical skill in farming, repairing buildings, &e. &c. For this purpose they named Mr. Hunt, the Lieu tenant-Colonel of the regiment of militia commanded by Colonel Clitherow, the Chairman. of the Committee. Again, placing implicit reliance in this officer's experience in similar institutions, he received no instructions as to the nature and form of the various books which he was to keep, and returns he was to make from time to time ; and to render the duties of this officer more distinct and unconnected with those of the Superintendent,be was placed under his immediate controul ! thus falling again in their former egregious error, by seeking to make a physician, who was to have the medical charge of 900 patients, re sponsible for the manner in which the farm, the cow-house. the piggery, were conducted, and for the expenditure of bricks, mortar, forage, garden seeds, tools, and agricultural implements, &e. " Under the management of this Steward, confusion be came more confused, and he was ultimately dismissed." What will the Rate-payers think of such manage ment? the Steward being the protegee of the Magis trate who assumed to himself the chief controul of the establishment ? Some of the results are thus men- tioned : " I therefore did not sign the order fur the daily supply of bread, meat, forage, Spo., but clearly sigt.ified to the , Steward that no purchaie of stores, stock, &c. should be ' made without any authorization. This the Steward neg lected, making purchases totally unknown to me, not being entered in the order hook ; and it was only accidentally that I discovered that he had made considerable purchases of clothing from the house of Messrs. Boyd, Barnett, and Co.—a circumstance which I not only immediately reported to the Committee, but took several of its members to the store-rooms, showed them the articles thus purchased, and placed in their hands samples of a cloth, which I did not consider proper for the clothing of the patients. " I have further to observe, on this subject, that not only did the Steward make purchases of stock unkno An to me and to the Committee, but considerable purchases of bed ding were made, in a similar manner, by the Chairman, who thus confused the accounts as much, if not more, than the in - iplitated Steward." From the following passage the reader will learn who is the magistrate chiefly responsible for the misdeeds done at Hanwell "Upon my appointment to the Asylum, I found it virtually under the controul of the Chairman, Colonel Clitherow. He issued his orders, verbally and in writing, without the concurrence of the Committee, and took upon him the responsibiliy of investigating all matters concerning the Asylum ; and although his decisions did not always meet with the ultimate approbation of the Committee,he seemed to consider the institution as under his immediate and sole controul. His Lieutenant-Colonel, the Steward, instead of winking his rep,rts to ate, reported to him, as his com manding officer, at his 'private dwelling, every occurrence in the establishment; and when, in one instance, differ ences had arisen between officers, the circumstance was referred, not to me or to the Committee, but to Colonel Clitherow, who immediately repaired to the Asylum, to issue his orders on the subject." Colonel Clitherow tore the orders of the Superin tendent out of the book, and brooking no rivalry in the management, made it quite impossible for a gentleman to remain exposed to the intrigues of the Colonel and his creatures. It must be very inconvenient for a Magistrate who makes his Lieut.-Colonel a steward, and purchases bedding himself, to have any independent per son on the establishment, and hence, according to Dr. Millingen, the quarrels, the insults, the resignation. But though the rate-payers know the source of the evil, they have no means of redress. The Magistrates are completely irresponsible, and the Hanwell Asylum, after all the exposures which have been made, will continue as at present a drain on the pockets of the rate-payers. They base nothing to do with the laws of the Middlesex Justices but to obey them, and to find their masters amply in funds for_ al the delightful species of jobbing in which they may engage. A VlcTim OF THE NORTH "IND.—Not I many years back, a man named Garcia was ex( cuted for murder, Ile was a person of some education, esteemed by those who knew him, and, in general, rather remarkable than otherwise for the civility and amenity or his man mrs; his countenance was open and handsome, and his disposition frank and generous; but when the north wind set in, he appeared to lose all command of him self, and such was his extreme irritability, that during its continuance he could hardly spe,:k to any . one in his execution, with meh ) e , i s u t f r o e r e r t : n i t th a ou t fe l s u a r b r o e u ll r i s n g b . ro l rne ah admitted that it s thewa'e third m ur d er h e h a d bee n guilty of, besides having been en g aged in more than twent y fights with knives, in 'which he bad both given and received many serious wounds ; but, lie observed, it was the north wind, not he, that shed ail t said blood; When he arose from his bed i n the morning, once aware of its accurse d influence heh. upon liii b n e ; at wa s everya sdualtl headache first, an d t h en a feeling of impatience thing about hi m , wou ld cause him to take umbrage even at the memb ers o f hi s own f am il y on t h e mos t t r i v ial oe urrence. If he went abroad, his headache generally became worse; a heavy weight•seemed to hang over his temples ; he saw objects, as it were, through a cloud, and was hardly conscious where he went. He was fund of play, and if in such a mood a gambling house was in his way, he seldom resisted the temptation ; once there, any turn of ill luck would so irritate him, that the chances word he would, insult some e of the bystanders. Those who knew him , perhaps, u bear with his ill humours; but if unhappily be chanced to meet with a stranger disposed to resent his abuse, they seldom parted without bloodshed. Such was the account the wretched man gave of himself, and it was corroborated afterwards by his relations and fr iends ; who added, th a t no sooner had the cause of his excitement passed a wa y, than he would deplore his weakness, and never rested till he had sought out and n ado his peace with those wh om he had hurt or offended. —Sir TV. Parish's Buenos Ares. D ESCENT OF THE NASSAU BALLOON.— After maentdr,oaptolhisal half t R de ffi sc f e r n ( ci L ed in a field adjacent to the After passing over the eastern part p c a h rt o of s o pplesfield, in Es9ex, near Castle H edlingham bore pr,st c o i v g e h r t l o ll e o i r o d e , k villarfe the distance of fifty-three miles from Vauxhall Gardens which was effected in the short space of two hours. The voyage was exceedingly interesting and pleasant. The cation that the b a ll oo n attained throughout the voyage was about 1,500 feet. gre atest elevation