The Sun. — London, England, 1845-06-19 00:00:00

~kl.ll, IVA Y COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) HOUSE OF LORDS. • l'lrb 8. rzr .L. 11) ELY aILIMV7III2". to.a7 .T11..0 /!il the l came o bf efore a Sel ect C ommittee of the Houle of Lords ...Lucan the chair. rt...r A , lisru v addressed the Committee for the promoters. in_s. Slon e , appeared for the Eau Brink Navigation Co s m 0 44,1 and °T for the South Level Drainage Commissioners, who 5t,„.7 pensation for the injury they would sustain by the con ...cheon of the line of railway. .11, preamble was declared proved, and the clauses were then wvois in to. tht"laose ‘vas being proposed b y the opponents for compensation, hiwere cleared, and, a f ter a few minutes' deliberation, the ci 7 een oa.led in and inf ormed by the Chairman that the clause rejected. 141.zOther clauses were then gone through, and the Committee Urned to Friday. itivz) szLnY LINE (BRIDLINGTON 'hi, 8., ERANCH). ea lnebefore a Committee at twelve o'clock to-clay, Earl , - " ,, tsns in th 17:1-11Lnvaito opened for the promoters. Il e , 4 . HILL appeared for the Commissioners of the Bridington '44d p r oposed a clause of indemnity. httisftrearlible was declared proved, and the clause for indemnity her clauses were then gone through, and the Bill is to be u _ r med. ltaxvinr.alt (NOTTINGHAM TO , ..atherton The c o :X.:IATCOI,I7) • 40 ed tliMittee Chairman on this . Bill met again this d a y a t one o ' c l oc k, .„., 4 4e 4)l ' Sr Opposition of Lord Ch esterf i eld was withdrawn, a satisfac- Vie p a rangerlient having been come to between his Lordship and 410 t 4 the r k - i wod road Trustees opposed the Bill, on the ground that T he :al proposed to cro s one of their roads on a level. oick4Lo. ! ntnit tee were engaged in hearin g ev id ence up to to - Ts' Iliorrow.wnen the inquiry was adjourned till ele v en o'clock *4418' SOMERSET, AND 'WEYMOUTH Th eRAILWAY. Committee on this Bill reassembled to-day at 12 o'clock, Th e ion in the chair. It% r 'downers having closed their cross-examinati . on, Mr. tien "t h 1144ne d IT and the room was cleared for the consideration e : 441 31e. bythrte-chaaisrhort absence, the parties were called in and informed 11 4 Man that the preamble was proved. kUrtitici4uses were then proceeded row.'rwith and the Committee ad. at four o'clock till 12 to. I sent, but the Committee, after reading it, would see that it was of a private nature, and it would be unnecessary to put it upon the minutes. The dccument was here handed in, and the Committee having perused it, The CHAIRMAN said it bore out the evidence of Mr. Newdegate, and the Committee could see no reason why it should not be entered amongst the minutes of their proceedings. Mr. AUSTIN' still objected to this course, and eventually it was arranged that a note should be placed on the minutes that the Committee had seen and read the agreement. O USE OF COMMONS. GROUP A. L h e SO UTH-EASTERN LINE. Aide nce Attisb p, liti of Mr. Stephenson (continued from our After. -h°n Of yesterday) —The greater the length of the otline the less the speed. The atmospheric engine th n :hlop carry large weights. The London and fr et _ e Co In P a nr proposed to compensate for this by :p!a cti " v a cate : of their trains, but he thought that this wo h uld th h e e r t : 11 °1 to al ' .as there are certain hours at which 11 4 , tor ttn wa i r travel, and, as no railway company e a la the traffic in this respect, they must Iti*44,rge number of passengers each time. The total alLittlner`Lex_raile of the atmospheric line would be 9,220/. The 44ltsr Rail of the stationary engine on the London and Mr for allw aY (at Euston-square), and which had been , tli Workin oleh, e exp el) ._ g one mile, was 1,4191. per annum, s would be much greater on the Croydon line, a c ul thar ; lininust work three miles of railway, the engine on the k lt tlni that e ha ving been only used for one mile ; and it was l e i I t oaat the stationary engine of an atmospheric line must k at :ly etr e_r Power than was required on the Birmingham line. t iza nIDDEIL, on the part of the North Kent line, the , na lgthnf ,the eXoe sexamamination of Mr. Stephenson on pair Sill ~,_fie, interest sa n t in .L ..iftered ol t , i%rr thet part of the London and Croydon line, then Stephenson at great length. thetioantit:bort 1: s e - examination of Mr. Stephenson, by Mr. Cainraittee adjourned at four o'clock. li. Co b GROUP CC. tli k i' l l Con:" .1. ILATI, 73 A.NDON RAILWAY. he t, nUtt ee met at th ree o ' clock, Mr. Vernon Smith in the ka %et I, ithd to . of t he present m ee ti ng was the recommittal of this Ni ece ' the the of a clause, with some amendments, ,21,, ki , the interests of the Corporation of Cork to certain tolls. I t i e.. „ant Murphy M.P , was examined in support of the li,•"etti Corporation'. The Hon. Gentleman stated the tolls ,44-ethee°nthilad. existed upwards of a hundred years. The facts t 14,9 toih k 7 e ttl' of Cork is surrounded by a belt for three miles, I,,eltert;°le articles coming from that part of the city known as 1;4 din were exempt from toll, but all articles coming from the keilthi eet et s . Under several charters and time immemorial, 01144 r, to it, and to enable the corporation to collect such tolls, d b„..ete erected. By the proposed railway the corporation Id 6.. collect those tolls unless they had the power of t m.. l ' t he bills of lading and books of the railway company, to l irti - "hat I N th e eor goo, Caine from the rural districts. Should that be re. t t Ih,,ild Pot at ion would be obliged to erect bars upon the railway, 4,,, le e , ~ greatly embarrass the traffic, and would be a source ~,- N b„ _lltlllation. The rights of the corporation were con. ;etZeld ..'4: v erdict of a jury in 1821. All the corporation re. eh( that their rights to these tolls should be protected ; 'ted .qt. el4 ttet c :_see. k any furth er r i ghts than those which at present 7 .. in question, aft er some slight alteration 5,,. , passed the kehled.r.v.ker being announced at prayers, the: Committee ad. GROUP GG. N%itiLlisGOW ZUNCTION RAILWAY. Nt!ritinued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterd ,Z"., was then cleared, and on our return ay.) 4Ni a l!lit3sA N said that the Committee were of opinion that eibb:!AZthe preamble as applied to the bridge over the Clyde ; Strove& sclib. e N t ANDREWs, who evidently laboured under some 4t t, o t in consequence of this decision, then proceeded to kki; 4 l he e rn . ittee on the . other parts of the plan. b i sti p f;jiusion of his address the room was again cleared, lost l e 6 b l nEt, a ft er the lapse of half an hour, admitted. I hLAN said th Committee had come to the resolution tti l k l o 7: l :4 -" ;Z h e e h p ß re .t a i m iw e b a le a ts sr t e o fe v r e s d t ; o the junction of the Garn as also the branch line to ... lei n g ovr t : t rt or the harbour ; but the main branch, from the L'itltOult or ; t he Glasgow Bridge, the Committee find not pro ved. ),,,NltearL ee nversation then ensued between the Commi ttee Counsel as to the course to be pursued by them 1 11 0N4 be was ultimately decided that the clauses of t h e lec,444l"men to-morrow. ttee adjourned till twelve next day. b , GROUP K. 7 -1 4ECCLES, AND YARMOUTH , k r Stin u ,. RAILWAY. ‘4l l ' vhik t _ ',. from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) 1C450% they eXamined by Mr. JAMES—Is . a printer residing at ::34 to alZuPulation of which, including f adjacent parishes, _tltlainity ut 6,000. There are several a 11 47, T s .2f goods annually to London, and of d a t o h r e ies in s t e er n v d e i n ng ing a rc illsbi e .1 of these the proposed line would a or Ns ISt .co these There is a considerable provision •14 the tow, : • i ti. tor, is _ , suppiying the neig i 1 11 ks ' tettriAnu`s' Particularly great a n d extensiv l e ! During districts, and the b P Ulsti,,, i nes a land.agent examined by Mr. WILDS, handed ' between :4 , 4 41 yL aU les, stating the number of inhabitants e ' he n uth, within a range of three miles of the e4v 8 0 97 8 1.174. 41 0 ' , the population of Beccles 4,086, and of 1 1 1 , 9 i * Il eott l et ., le nc's was given confirmatory of these tables, and wittee adjourned at four o'clock. 14:1` It;w4tam, GROUP L. 440 0, p 4 et. g ean — t w °ll.l ll ATMOSPHERIC LINE. ott, RANGRAM (in continuation from our After. 10 4 Yest let ) nth R ai , erday) and —But with regard to the Guildford f ' W ay he was bound to inquire whether there was st v i a La tats in t the public mind. The only two places in tttitstipt, •Ine were the town of Portsmouth and the Isle tat and 14 41 h e cp e . o ll, ee Was assured that if these two places were out of s t st s r i ,24lt ed tk onleaittee of the House of Commons would t t the R„ "e Bill at all. The great object of the pro -4114 - -uth.w e 1, th_ stern Company, according to their evidence, Zi64l ha Intermediate towns with London and each other, ci ai Tte the'tt Concluded the evidence which he was prepared to th e that theeentnmittee, he believed that they would be of Pik t i a nt ftfet est :_ in P,n3 , had made out no case which would jus. tio tz ge t _ e with the private rights of his client. tha t . 4 land s h e urveyor residing in the parish of Wonersh, 4_ tat. knew M ta t . F ar id r. Aluskett's property at Westbrook, near . sea uneludin c hi th e g all the appendages, it would let for 40 . 01. icedh...entises were in bad repair, and had for some time I r e N tat . lit et t eal attar ' of '4'ttee t his witness cont i nue d t ill t h e adjournmen t a `t ch ested t t he usual h our, b ut not hi ng o f an y pub lic L (e 0 41 74,, la RE GROUP P. v,7fe e "need front RMARE RAILWAY. et - ° Ppo i • Rion " our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) 4,:til . ha ' 10t t.4 „ in .._ 4ll scu si . ° mg been offered to the toll clauses, they were ,to -"initlattlun I, 4 a theie 1...._,nit the ton s made part of the Bill. The alterations con. to be demanded on the proposed rail. 4 14 c .: ela ti - r e t r v es ed on the Pontypool Railway. 1 4er *4 Inse r t ed, P F c ting the provisions for future general rail halevatkibehtuies caae an t ! t tl ti lt t *e re lir erbing the particular power of the railway sq4 C o , 44 4on o :P c4 ed, but the consideration of them was pos %itt ee the _ . u adjourned till twelve tomorrow. 1 ` 11 0.10, 4044.1.4 ----- GROUP SS. Tr zi.... I It' (e'ntiob ' ' 4XE WORTR, AND NUNEATON ItAILWAY. "1k ' VI", ' e t' fron t 0 , 4,, Co„,—Mi es. _ 1r Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) . t,,714 ."'Pliny __° ll e of the engineers to the London and Birming- Zt , l - r oe his 0 1 w a a 4 then called to prove that he had been sent 11 4 an, b e rih w t a i_ Ce rnPariy to chalk out, and see if a better line itet io la m , :ed between Coventry and Bedworth. He ha 1 ,.10,... q 44 4 T result was that h had discovered a better " 1 1 '''' lin cettet h• ' c IL avit,.. e. it _ ine, coining in an opposite direction to the 0 yo y 4 ,, ki II would give a more direct connexion between Sal 44. -21U-gattyrlerii°llt to aftilivorth. and afford more accommodation to enal.fields of the district. The line and d 1 9, We stward, poin t i ng towards L on d on an d °tit 411 e line 4 Nt '"EI ~, ` r oUld w ould form no junction with the Trent f t ..% -.ek ed 0 410 directly to Bedworth. In some instances 5 41 0,, 4 en the Ordn u a t c alt ernative lines. The lines he chalked NCloha to f le "lan, and had deposited with the ~1/4t. have of rado n and Birmingham Company, with tb4 ;1 14 41 prepared, upon his own data, by Satur -441,14 k_ A la N . . 1,011, 4 7 th e aer iald it now became necessary that the Committee 131,tmeerapaevee'nent entered into by the London and Bir. It. P . C 4 Ce it. Y . • T he). would be glad, therefore, if Mr. Calvert 4 ‘1: 44 11 41 'ert I, t 14 in r i 'etested 4 k b , to h his h „.. . that he knew nothing of the agreement. ilitutt;"ele h.",:''`esslon, nor had he seen it. Mr. Newdegate e4 ' 4l ri a es - " ter u da ll e d upo „ ,_ u (0 produce it when he was under ita44t_hete ~.,44,N eY. Otka,r l ap ao ,, ___ marked that the agent of the London and Bir 4tt l '. 14. ''hy he was present, and the Committee could not C,44thet'etree te ekt not produce the required document. ill said the fa t ' I n 'th °44 , YI T .,, h is po w , . C Was, Mr. Newdegate had the original , ' t ''' tailed , " 81 en. and the London and Birmingham , otettiu o i r 4 ,,,, a a !0 receive and copy. 44 1 f ella gain clear 'Ph n for .‘ed, and the Committee having remained t4e4: Cy ..early a n hour , the parties were re.admitted, y, tih k 'IN A , li i , 04' 4 4 0 f atnoUneed that the Committee had received a til),Nlttlok, to Mr. Newdegate stating that he had no per ki"ll, to c ote, shproducing the agreetr. ' ent, but he was anxious that 14 0,1 4 4 ii i t te ,sen t L UI , d , a PPIY to the Birmingham Company, or Mr. 14,0,4'.W phettsrProductiori. The Committee wished, there -4v41 4* Ai. .7 4 th e a ,fe the agent far the Birmingham Company ticinas th ! r ee eo nlent.. . . . th,,,ttio o 11 7 . 5 agreement, with Mr. Calvert, who disclaimed 'ftqNvitt._l greernent, said he had no objection to pro- OWn that Mr. Newdegate had given his con- THE STTN, LONDON, THITRS'D AIL EVENING,' JUNE ID , 1845. returned to Court, and also Ix and him over in the tura of 40/. to prosecute. This Will have the enc.: of preventing any compro misc tretw,-er, the parties. lii Lori.hip was bailed Put in about an Irmr after by his tailor and to . ,,acco:iist; and the ease of evading the toll was o derei to stand over until the result of the indictment for assault should be disposed of. IMPORTANT DECISION. The room was then, for the third time, cleared, and the Com mittee having again deliberated for some time, the parties were re.admitted, when The CHAIRMAN read the following resolution :—" The Com mittee having had before them an agreement entered into between the promoters of this Bill and the London and Birmingham Railway Company, the effect of which would be, that this projected line of railway would be made over to the London and Birmingham Railway Company, and having further had before them an agreement between the London and Birmingham Railway Company and N. C. Newdegate, Esq., M.P. for North Warwickshire, covenanting that a portion of this line of railway should not be executed, and that epplioatioa should be made next year to Parliament for a Bill to authorise the construction of a different line of railway, the Committee con sider that the line of railway proposed by the promoters of the Bill could not be made, and, therefore, arc unanimously of opinion that the preamble of this Bill is not proved." The Committee then adjourned. GROUP X. CAMBRIDGE AND LINCOLN LINE. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. George Abbot, carriers' agent at Stamford, deposed as to the quantity of wool carried to and from Stamford to London at pre sent, the expense of transit, and the lessening of the expense, if the proposed line should be made. Mr. Robert Maultby, wool buyer at Bourne and at Spalding, gave evidence similar to that of the last witness. Several other witnesses were examined to the same effect, but no new feature was elicited, and the Committee adjourned at the usual hour. GROUP Z. The Committee to whom this group was referred re-assembled to day at twelve o'clock, in Room 17, the Right Hon. Mr. Clive in the chair. THE GREAT WESTERN (DUBLIN AND GALWAY). The CHAIRMAN said that, in consequence of some observations that had been thrown out yesterday that this line had not met with the approbation of the Board of Ordnance, he had called at their office, and it was their intention to send down a solicitor to-day for the purpose of having certain clauses inserted in the Bill. If their wishes were complied with in this respect, no opposition would be offered by them to the proposed line. Mr. John Dl'Mullan, examined by Mr. ROWE, said that he was secretary to the Grand Canal Company. There was a portion of land belonging to the Canal Company lying generally on the line. That land returns about 3001. a year to the Company. It is let out for farming purposes. There is also a quantity of it used as a highway, and there is a turnpike on this road which yields a return of 100/ to 2001. yearly. That land is often crossed by the pro posed railway. The canal is crossed by a swinging bridge near Ballycotnmon. He considered a much better line could be formed along the banks of the canal. A section of the land had been prepared. The Committee gave it as their opinion that no plan or section could be put in as evidence, but any question relative to the land referred to might be asked. The witness, in continuation, said that a ground plan had been submitted to Mr. Cubitt, and he was of opinion that there was suf 1. cient space on this land for a double line of railway. Mr. ROWE said that he would produce the plan, and thus set the matter at rest. The CHAIRMAN said that the Committee had already decided that the plan could not be produced. The witness then proceeded—He had made a calculation along with Mr. Cubitt, and the result of that calculation was that a line from Naas to Ballinasloe could be laid down at a much less ex pense than the proposed one He had those calculations in his pos session. The Committee would not allow the witness to enter into these calculations. The witness was familiar with the general traffic of the country, as well as with the traffic on the canal. The tables of traffic put forth by the promoters of the line were grossly exaggerated. Had heard no complaints from any one but Mr. Williams with respect to the general management of the canal, but has received the approbation of the principal people who used the canal for the trans -1 mission of their goods. There were two very gross instances of misstatement in the printed tables of traffic put forth by the promoters. With respect to the amount of corn, grain, &c., for the fourteen days during which the observations were made, it was stated that 2,338 tons passed between Edenderry and Philips town. When this statement appeared enumerators were placed along the line by the Canal Company, and during the fortnight they were taking observations, only 10 tons of grain passed along the road. He had every reason to believe that this was a correct statement. Between Galway and Tullamore, the largest mileage traffic would yield a return of 2021. 10s. per mile. Cross.examined by Mr. MURPHY—The Canal Company were possessed of the land by their Act of Incorporation. The lands were for the purposes of the canal. Could not say by what authority the Company let out any portion of their land for agricultural purposes. The land re ferred to was six miles east of Tullamore. The Canal Company were not landholders in any other capacity than for the purposes of the canal. The turnpike.road was along the bank of the canal. He heard Mr. Pym's evidence. It was not a fair representation to say that a great portion of the traffic which ought to go by the canal (if it were properly managed) went now by the high road. Did not hear Lord Ciancarty say so in his evidence. It was no misrepresenta t;on to say that 120,000/. due by the Canal Company to the Go vernment had been compromised for 10,0001. Did not know that Mr. Williams was the first person whe put a steam-boat on the Shannon. His calculation was made from Edenderry to Philipstown. Re-examined by Mr. ROWE—The 120,000/. alluded to was put in the hands of the Canal Company by trustees for the poor, and they merely acted in that capacity in reference to that money. Mr. C. Bagot, examined by Mr. Rowe—His father was for many years superintendent of the traffic on the Grand Canal. He as. tinted him for several years, and during that period he had a good opportunity of becoming acquainted with the traffic by the canal. He had no hesitation in saying that the statements in the printed paper that had been put forth by the promoters of the proposed line were grossly exaggerated. When his attention had been called to these gross mis-statements, he caused, at the instance of the Grand Canal Company, enumerators to be placed along the line on which the estimates of the promoters were taken, and instead of 2,338 tons of grain, which had been assumed as the traffic along that por. tion of the line, only ten cart loads of grain passed. The average of a cart load was rather less than a ton. The estimates for the whole line of railway, of all kinds of merchandise, were calculated by the promoters at 1,0091. per mile. According to the esti mates of tha Canal Company, it appeared that it was only 6051. per mile. He thought that the amount set down by the promoters for the traffic of private carriages and dogs was a very enormous charge. The total number of passengers by all conveyances, if full, only amounted by their calculation to 1 67,000, and in the traffic table of passengers by the promoters 1 it was set down at 102,269. Mr. ROWE here intimated to the Committee that the solicitor for the Board of Ordnance was in attendance to make a commu nication. Mr. Higgins, solicitor for the Board of Ordnance, stated that he was instructed by that Board to state to the Committee that they had no objection to the proposed line as far as Tullamore; but he was desired to request the Committee to stop that part of the line which passed through Athlone and Philipstown, both of which were the most important military depots which they had in Ireland. The CHAIRMAN inquired whether the promoters were willing to insert a clause to provide for the rights of the Board of Ordnance ? Mr. MurePtiv, on the part of the pron:oters, engaged that a clause should be inserted that no land would be taken at those places without previously obtaining the sanction of the Board of Ordnance. A draft of such clause would be submitted to Mr. Higgins to.morrow. Mr. Charles Bagot's examination was then continued. He gave similar evidence on the traffic along the canal as the last wit. ness, and after being subjected to a long cross- examination by Mr. Talbot, Mr. Gavin, An Alderman of Dublin, was called. He was a car rier, and though he sent a large quantity of corn, meal, cattle, and sheep by the canal, he never had cause for complaint, either as to the rate of charge or delay in the carriage. Mr. Hannington, engineer, was then examined by Mr. J AMES— He had been examined before the Committee on Standing Orders relative to the proposed line. There were a great many errors in the levels as laid down upoh the sections made out by the promoters. In some places there was an error of 35 feet in the levels. At 20 7.8 of the line the error was 20 feet. The sections showed embankment where it should be cutting. In North.place the surface of the ground was 22 feet higher than what it was described on the section. In North.place there was an error of ten feet of cutting ; in other places there were errors of nine, twelve, seven, eighteen, and twenty feet, the ground being either so much higher or lower, either a cutting or an embankment, from the sections as described in the datum line. Considerable time was occupied by this witness in giving his answers. He gave each answer' from a section he had before him, which he previously required to measure with rule and compasses. When he had got so far as forty miles on the line, the Speaker was announced to be at prayers, and the Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock to.morrow. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCII,June 18. (Before Mr. Justice WIGHTMAN.) RICHELO V. DOWLE AND RICHBEL. Mr, Eaton appeared for the plaintiff; and Mr. Turner for the defendants. This was an action brought by the plaintiff, who is a widow, against the defendants for an excessive and illegal distress. The first count in the declaration was, that a greater sum had been dis. trained for than was due. The second, that a greater amount of property had been distrained by them than was sufficient to satisfy even the amount of the plaintiff's claim. The third, that legal notice of distress had not been duly left at the plaintiff's resi dence. This fact was admitted on both sides, that the plaintiff took a first floor in Lichfield-street from the defendant Dowle, at the rate of 221. per annum. It was further admitted that in the first instance the apartments had been taken by the year, the rent payable quarterly, but the whole question of excessive distress turned upon the fact, whether or no a subsequent arrange. ment had not been entered into to pay the rent monthly, and rent the apartments on the same kind of tenancy. The plaintiff's daughter admitted that she paid smaller sums than a quarter's rent, 51. 10s., but swore she did so without prejudice to quarterly pay. ments, and because the payment of small sums was more convenient to her. The defendants brought forward a witness, who swore that Miss Richelo had agreed with the defendant to pay the rent m onthly. The sum alleged to be due by the plaintiff was 91. 25., th a t claimed by the defendant was 121. 13s. 6d. The goods distrained upon were alleged by the plaintiff to be worth 401., though they were sold for 13/. The plaintiff could not by evidence support the allegation, either that an exces sive balance of rent was claimed, for she said she had lost the landlords's receipts, of that the sale of the goods by Richbel was Irregular. Witnesses for the defendant swore they left at the plaintiff's house the usual legal notice, the plaintiff's witnesses that they had seen no such notice. By the entries in the defendants' book, it appeared that the latter sums paid by the plaintiff corresponded in amount with monthly pay ments,which the Learned Judge in his charge said was strong evidence of the fact of the subsequent agreement for monthly payments. The damage claimed by the plaintiff was the amount of value between 91. 25., the rent alleged by her to be due, and 391., the real value of the goods which had been seized on. The jury returned a verdict for the defendants. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, June 18. Sittings at Nisi Prius, before Mr. Justice ERLE, and Special Juries.) O'CONNELL V. PAYNE AND OTHERS. This was an action for libel, in which William John O'Connell was plaintiff, and the registered proprietors of the Morning Post defendants. Mr. Sergeant Shee and Mr. Percival Banks appeared for the plaintiff ; Mr. Sergeant Talfourd and Mr. Boothby for the de fendants. Te the libel set forth in the declaration the defendants pleaded the general issue, which in this action amounts to not guilty, putting in issue two facts for the jury —first, the publication; secondly, whether the matter published was or was not libellous. The alleged libel was as follows 44 CONFUSION IN 1116 LONDON REPEAL CAMP.--Mr. W. J. O'Cnntll, in, - pector of the London repeal wardens (meaning the p'aintitT William Jahn O'Conne:l), is at daggers drawn with the L ondon yepealers;_ their quarrels (meaning the quarrels of the pLiinliff and the London rcpealars) threaten, as far as London is concerned, to strangle repeal an 4 destroy the bright vision of a native Pirliarne.it in College-green, which the night dreams of the Hibernian sojourners in the classic neighbourhoods of St. Giles's and Drury lane created. The inspector-gene ral (meaning the plaintiff), indignant at his authority (mean_ ing the authority of the plaintiff) being questioned by his (meaning the plaintiff's) followers, has in revenge closed the St George's ward, and suspended St. John's-wood ward. The cause of the dispute is the payment of a weekly salary to the inspector. general (meaning the plaintiff), while he (meaning the plaintiff) is unavoidably compelled to absent himself from their meeting, (meaning the meetings of his followers being London repeaters) on all days, Sundays excepted. An organ of the London re f eaters explains the affair (meaning the affair as regards the plain tiff in his relations with the London repeaters) in the following words One of the reasons why the London repeaters object to the payment (which objection has called forth the conduct com plained of) of W. J. O'Connell (meaning thereby the payment to the plaintiff of a weekly salary as inspector general of the London repeal wardens) is, that he (meaning the plaintiff) is com pelled to be out of the way all the week, fearing an arrest, and can only be seen out on Sundays. He (meaning the plaintiff) has been living with (meaning thereby cohabiting with) a lady of the name of Moss, who entrusted him (meaning the plaintiff) with money to pay bills to the tune of .200/. or 3001., and he (meaning the plaintiff), instead of paying the bills, otherwise employed the c :sh (meaning by the cash the money so entrusted to the plaintiff) for the purpose of paying the aforesaid bills. She (meaning the lady of the name of Moss) wishes to arrest him (meaning the plaintiff), in the hope that the association (meaning the Loyal National Repeal Association) will pay the money (inclin ing the money entrusted to the plaintiff by the said lady, named Moss, to pay the aforesaid bills, and otherwise employed by the said plaintiff), and save him (meaning the plaintiff) from disgrace. All this he (meaning the plaintiff) publicly acknowledged at the Sr. George's ward, and taunted Mr. Dwane with knowing his (mean. ing the plaintiff's) embarrassments, and wishing to increase them. He (meaning the plaintiff) also boasted that Mr. O'Connell would pay the sum for him (meaning the plaintiff), but he (meaning the plaintiff) was too proud to ask him; he (meaning the plaintiff) stated last Monday, that if twelve wards declared against him (meaning the plaintiff), he (meaning the plaintiff) would imme. diately close them. The inspector-general (meaning the plaintiff) repudiates these slanderous attacks upon his character, and attri butes them to the vindictive jealousy of a disappointed few.' Non nabis est componere files! It is not our business to settle disputes (meaning thereby it is not the business of the Morning Post news paper to settle disputes); and a pretty quarrel it is (meaning thereby the quarrel between the plaintiff' and the London repeaters, from whose organ the slanderous attacks upon the character of the said plaintiff are quoted) !" After hearing Mr. Sergeant Shee and Mr. Sergeant Talfourd, Mr. Justice ERLE summed up; and after some five-and-twenty minutes' consideration, the jury returned a verdict for plaintiff— Damages 501. CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT. OLD COURT. (Before Mr. Justice PArrEsoN and Mr Baron PLATT.) .Tames Holt, 26, was indicted for the manslaughter of Wil liam T, mple. The prisoner, who is a cab-drier, on the evening of the 23d of May, was driving down Holborn-hill, and he came in contact with a cart driven by the deceased, who, by the collision was thrown into the road, and killed. The jury returned a verdict of Guilty, coupled with a re commendation to morcy, and he was sentenced to be confined in the Home of Correction for two months, but without hard labour. henry Smith, IS, was indicted for feloniously cutting and wounding Thomas Lister, with intent to maim and disable him, or to do him some grievous bodily harm. The prosecutor was in the service of Messrs. Ilanbury and Co., and on the day mentioned in the indictment he was passing the Bell and Crown-inn, Holborn, at the time of the arrival of the Beehive coach from Cambridge, and seeing the prisoner struggling with an old man who acts as patter at the establishment, for the possession of some boxes, he told him to desist, and not interfere with the old man. The prisoner was very angry, and struck the prosecutor a blow on the eye, having at the time a piece of tobacco-pipe in his hand, and the effect was, to de prive him of the sight of his eye, and as he had lost the sight of the ether eye some time before, he was now totally blind. The prisoner cried bitterly, and expressed deep regret for what had happened, assuring the Court that it was entirely accidental. The jury found the prisoner Guilty of an assault, and he was sentenced, by '.llr. Justice Pattison, to be confined in New gate for two months. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. QUEEA-SQUARE. Armswren MURDER.—Yesterday Jane Walker, a prostitute, who was charged on Tuesday with attempting to cut her sister's throat, was again brought before the Magistrate. The depositions had been prepared in order to send the case for trial, but as it was quite evident, from the disinclination of the complainant and her family to prosecute, that it would be useless to do so, Mr. BOND said he was exceedingly reluctant to treat this case summarily, but as he felt perfectly convinced that the ends of jus tice would be defeated byisending it for trial, in consequence of the non-attendance of the parties to prosecute, and the prisoner thus escape all punishment, he should convict her in the penalty of 5/., and in default commit her for two months. SOUTH IVA RK. CHARGE OF INDECENT ASSAULT.—Yesterday Mr. Cottingham was engaged for some time in the investigation of a series of hide ceat assaults, preferred by two girls of tender age against George Bowesley, the master of an infant school in William-street, Pop tar-row, Newington, a man advanced in years, under whose tuition they had been placed by their parents. From the evidence of the little girls, one of whom is ten and the other thirteen years of age, it appeared that the defendant's school consisted of upwards of seventy scholars, male and female chil dren, the education of whom was superintended by the prisoner and his wife, the former being engaged in teaching writing and ciphering, and the latter attending to the other branches of their education. One of the girls, Mary Ann Palmer, the daughter of a hatter, in the course of her evidence, stated that the prisoner was in the habit of behaving to her in a very disgusting manner on those occasions that ought to have been devoted by him to her in struction in writing, and that it was in a portion of the school where his wife was not in attendance; that she mentioned the fact of his gross indecency to an elder sister, by whom it was made known to her parents, and they, upon being made acquainted with the circumstances, at once proceeded to take the necessary steps to have the offender punished. Mary Donny, another little girl, also detailed circumstances of a similar grossly indecent description practised upon her by the prisoner, and the witness added that several other female children in the school had all been subjected to the same kind of treatment at the hands of the accused. Mr. Roberts, prisoner's professional adviser, cross-examined the witnesses to show that they varied in some degreein their statements, but Mr. Comm.:tram remarked that, although there might be a slight discrepancy in the evidence, still that the principal part of the charge was established against the accused. The magistrate then, addressing the father of the little girl Palmer, said that he had acted most properly in proceeding against a man like the pri- Euler placed in such a situation, having the care and instruction of a number of children, and that, instead of his attending to them in the way he was bound to do, he was, on the contrary, corrupt ing their morals by behaviour towards them of the most disgusting description. The charges against the accused were of that nature that he, under the peculiar circumstances, should not wish to deal summarily with, but that if Mr. Palmer agreed to the suggestion, he should commit him (the prisoner) for trial to the sessions, when, in the event of conviction, he must meet with the punishment he so well merited, and probably be imprisoned for such a period as would, at all events, prevent him from following an avocation— that of master of an infant school—for a very considerable time, and that the exposure consequent upon such a trial might have the effect of terminating the career of a person so ill• qualified as the instructor of youth. Mr. Palmer expressed his willingness to comply with the ma gistrate's suggestion, and said that, on public grounds, he deter mined to do so regardless of the expense of the prosecution, as he had since ascertained, beyond the possibility of a doubt, that not only had the prisoner acted to his children in a most disgusting manner, but also towards others under his tuition. Mr. COTTINGRAIf then committed the prisoner for trial to answer the charge at the sessions. LAMBETH. Yesterday, Charles Henry Viscount Dillon, 16, Malkin-street, Belgrave-square, appeared before Mr. Henry to answer to two charges, the one for assaulting George White, one of Mr. Levy's toll collectors, and the other, with having passed through the Kent street toll-gate with his " drag" and four without paying the toll. George White, the complainant, upon being sworn, deposed that about eleven o'clock on the night of Sunday, the B.h instant, he was on duty at the Kent-street Sunday toll-gate, near the Brick layers' Arms, and heard the sounding of a horn approaching him, and in a few moments saw a coach and four in view. He called out to the driver for the toll, but the defendant, who was driving, took no notice of it, and finding this to be the case, he caught hold of the bridle of the near wheel horse. His Lordship cut at him with the whip, and endeavoured to lash him on the hand so as to get him to let his hold slip, but the whip fell on his hat. Mr. HENRY—Did he strike at you with the thong of the whip doubled or single ? Witness—With the double thong, your worship. His Lord ship then pulled up, and asked me what I stopped his horses for, and I told him for the payment of eightpence for the toll. He said the toll had been paid, but I told him it could not have been, as there was no four-horse coach had passed through or paid that day, and that no other gate's ticket cleared that. His Lordship then told his servant to pay the toll, as he had got a good eight. pennyworth; upon which he (witness) said the matter should not rest there. The defendant merely replied, " Very well," and desired his servant to give his name, and the servant accord ingly gave his name as Lord Dillon. The servant at this time pulled out a ticket from his pocket belonging to a different trust, and witness told him that it would not do. The toll was not paid or offered. Lord Dillon, in answer to the charge, said—The fact, Sir, was that I had been dining at Greenwich with some friends, and en my return to town the night was so dark that I mistook the proper turning near the Green Man, and went down a different way, as it appears, from that which we passed through in going to Greenwich, and finding that a person had hold of one of the horses, I will own that it was perfectly true I might have used the whip to get him to let the horse go, but I only hit him once. I never saw the gate, and on the complainant telling me what he had seized the horse for, I pulled up, and desired my servant to pay the toll. My servant, who is here, will, I doubt not, prove that he tendered the toll, but the complainant said he would not take it, but should see me else where. Besides my servant, I have two gentlemen here who were with me, and whom I wish to call as witnesses. Mr. HENRY-I am quite willing to hear any witness your Lord ship may think it necessary to call. Lord Dillon here called Thomas Storey, Esq., of the Cavendish Hotel, Jermyn-street, who deposed he dined with Lord Dillon and a party of friends, at Greenwich, on Sunday week. He (witness) heard the complainant say something about toll, and he (Mr. Storey) was quite sure the toll had been offered by the servant of Lord Dillon, but was refused by the complainant. In reply to a question from Mr. HENRY, the witness admitted having heard his Lordship say something about having had a good eightpennyworth out of the complainant. Mr. Robert Nicholson, of the Cavendish Hotel, one of the party, said he was there on the night in question, when the " drag" was suddenly stopped, and saw Lord Dillon hit away at the person who had stopped the horses. He heard the toll-collector say he would have the toll, and heard Lord Dillon tell his servant to pay. Did not hear the defendant say he had got a good eightpennyworth out of the tollman, and was sure he said no such thing. Lord Dillon, nor any of the party, were at all the worse for the wine they had taken. Joseph Wheeler, groom to the defendant, said he did not recol. lect hls Lordship telling him to pay the toll, and he neither did so nor tendered the amount. If his Lordship had whipped the complainant he did not see it, nor heard him say he had given the complainant a good cightpennyworth. Mr. HENRY thought both charges proved, and observed that the Act of Parliament enabled him to convict the defendant in the penalty of 101. for the assault, and 101 in addition, but to a nobleman in the defendant's station these penalties would be of no consideration. Mr. Henry here asked the complainant if he wished to carry the case of assault to the sessions ? The complainant replied that he would leave the case entirely in his Worship's hands, but Lord Dillon said he should prefer its being sent to the sessions. Mr. HENRY thought this would be the most satisfactory way of deciding the case, and ordered the noble defendant to find bail, himself in 2110/., and two sureties in 1001. each, to answer the charge at the ensuing Surrey sessions. Mr. Henry also ordered the deposition of the complainant to be committed to writing, to be THE WATEitT 00 BANQUET The Dike of Wellington yesteriayulebrated the 30th anniver sary of the ever -memorable battle of Waterloo, by his customary banquet at Apsley-house. In the course of the day above 700 con gratulatory visits were made to the Doke, at Aps!ey House, the visitors including the members of the Royal Family, and the leading aristocracy of this country, Lis well as foreign ministers. His Grace was surrounded on the occasion by upwards of 70 of his brave companions in arms; his Royal Highness Prince Albert honouring the Noble Duke with his presence on the occasion. The guests began to arrive as early as half-past six o'clock, and even at that hour a very numerous assemblage had congregated in the vicinity of the Nohle Duke's mansion for the purpose of wit. noising the arrival of the noble and distinguished veterans forming the remnant of those who maintained the independence of their fatherland on the field of Waterloo. His Royal Highness Prince Ally rt arrived shortly after seven o'clock, attended by the Marquis of Exeter, Major-General Bowa ter, and Col. Bowles, the two latter of whom, as is well-known, are Waterloo officers. The preparations for the banquet were on the same scale of princely magnificence which has bee❑ so often described in the columns of this journal. Covers were laid for upwards of SO. The Duke of Wellington was scpported on the right by his Royal Highness P.;tice AlLert and the Marquis of A r.glesey, and on his left hand sat his Excellency Prince Castelcicala and his Ex cellency Count Kielmansegge. The following noblemen and distinguished officers were of tl.e party : —Field.'Marshal his Royal Highness Prince Albert, Colonel of the Scots Fusilier Guards; his Excellency Prince Castelcicala, the Neapolitan Minister; his Excellency Count Kielmansegge, the Hanoverian Minister ; General the Marquis of Anglesey, Colonel of the Royal Ilorse Guards (blue), K.G., G.C.8., and G.C.H.; General the Right Hon. Sir James Kempt, Colonel of the 2d Foot, G.C.8., and G.C. H. ; General Lord Strafford, Co lonel of the 29th Foot, G C. 8., and G.C.H. ; Licut..Gen. the Right Hon. Sir F. Adam, Colonel of the `?lst Foot, G.C.B. and G.C. M.G. ; Lieut.. Gen. Sir Edward Kerrison, Bart., Colonel of the 14th Dragoons, G.C.B. and G.C.H.; Lieutenant. General Sir Andrew Barnard, Colonel Commandant of the Rifle Brigade, G.C.B. and G.C.H. ; Lieutenant-General Sir Henry Arkew, late Grenadier Guards, C.B. ; Lieutenant-General Sir George A. Quentin, K. C.H. ; Lieutenant-General Sir A. Woodford, Colonel of the 40th Foot, K.C.B. and G.C. M.G.; Lieutenant-General Lord Fitzroy Somerset, Colonel of the 53d Foot, K. C. B. ; Lieutenant- General Sir James Macdonell, Colonel of the 79th Foot, K.C.B. and K.C.H. ; Lieutenant. General J. W. Sleigh, Colonel of the 9th Dragooas, C. 8.; Lientenant- General Sir A. B. Clifton, Colonel of the Ist D r agoons, K.C.B. and K.C.H. ; Major-General tha Hon. E. P. Lygon, Colonel of the 13th Dra goons, C. 8.; Major General Sir John G. Woodford, K.C.B. and K. C. H. ; Major. General Sir George Scoell, K. C. 13. ; Major-General Lord Saltoun, K.C.B. and G.C.H.; Major-General H. Wyndham; Major-General Sir Edward Bowater, K.C.H.; Major. General H. D'Oyley ; Major-General Sir A. Cameron, K.C.8.; 'Major-Gen. Sir J. May, K.C.B. and K.C.H.; Major-General James Hay, C. 8.; Major-General Sir H. D. Ross, K.C.8., Adjutant-General to the Royal Artillery; Major-General John Webber, Smith, C. 8.; Major. General Sir R. Gardiner, K.C.8., aa.d K.C.H. ; Major- General I). Mercer, C. B. ; Colonel E. Cheney, C. B. ; Colonel R. Llewellyn, C. 8.; Colonel A. Money, C.B. ; Colonel R. Eger. ton. C.B. ; Colonel J. C. Bouchier ; Colonel J. B. Parker, C.B. ; Colonel Campbell, C.B. ; Colonel J. Grant, C.B. ; Colonel T. W. Taylor, C.B. ; Colonel F. Calvert, C.B. ; Colonel M. Childers, C. 13. ; Colonel W. Drummond; Colonel A. Macdonald, C.B. ; Colonel W. Rowan, C.B. ; Colonel G. Bowles ; Colonel Allix Colonel Lotd J. F. 11. Somerset ; Colonel W. Walton ; Colonel J. Martin ; Colonel Sir J. Thackwell, Colonel of the 3d Dragoons, K.C.B. and K.C. H. ; Colonel E. Wildman ; Colonel M. Maxwell Wallace, K.H. ; Colonel W. G. Moore; Colonel the Hon. G. Anson; Colonel Lord Sandys ; Colonel Stawell ; Colonel C. P. Ellis; Colonel the 119 n. G. Cathcart; Colonel T Wildman; Col. Gurwood ; Colonel B. Drummond; Colonel F. R. Lascelles ; Col. Bowers ; Colonel Dyneley, C. 8.; Colonel L. Bolder° ; Colonel Robbins; Colonel J. Oldfield, K. IL ; Lieutenant-Colonel the Hon. G. L. D. Darner; Lieutenant-Colonel H. Webster; Lieutenant- Colonel the Hon. H. Montague; Lieutenant-Colonel E. Bourerie ; Lieutenant-Colonel J. Cox; Lieutenant-Colonel G. Wilkins, C.B. and C.H., &c. The band of the Noble Duke's regiment were in attendance, and played during dinner a selection of favourite music. After the removal of the cloth, the customary toasts were pro posed, and the company separated about ten o'clock. Since the last anniversary the following officers present at the battle have died :—Lieutenant-General Lord Harris, Major-Gene ral Clement Hill, Major-General John Fremantle, Colonel Sir Charles Webb Dance, K.H., Colonel Sir George Charles Hoste, C. H., Colonel Edward Clive, Colonel Charles King, K.H., Colonel J. Logan, Lieutenant-Colonel Richard Croker, Lieutenant Colonel H. Baynes, K. H., Lieutenant-Colonel Alexander Burton, Lieu- tenantiColc;nel Thomas Cox Kirby, Lieutenant-Colonel Lewis Car. michael, &c. Several of these gallant officers wcre present at the Duke's dinner last year. The Duke of Wellington subsequently honoured Lady Fevers_ ham with his company at her Ladyship's ball in Belgraie-square. THE WEATHER AND THE CROPS. WEST Yosocsitier.—A week of the most splendid summer weather possible has again wonderfully brought on all the produce of the field and the garden, and greatly improved the prospects for the harvest. The last four days have been of the temperature of the end of July or beginning of August—perfect forcing weather, and just what was wanted after the protracted cold of the spring, and especially after the rains of the pre vious week. The appearance of the country is that of a gar den ; all the crops promise well, even the wheat, concerning which there had been some fears. The spring corn, the roo crop 4, and the grass are splendid.—Leeds Mercury. SOUTH YORK SIII RE. —The weather for the last ten days or a forteight has been everything that the farmer could wish, and in that short period the face of the country has wonderfully changed. The pasture and meadniw lands have rapidly advanced to a state of the greatest luxuriance, and in a few days the hay harvest will begin in good earnest in this district. A plot of seeds has already beers cut in the Doncaster field, which will no doubt speedily be followed by others. The wheat crops have been much benefited by the late rains and the warm weather which has supervened, but we hear many complaints that the plants are thin and irregular, and that there cannot bean average crop. The high winds and frosty nights which prevailed so much in April and even in May have, no doubt, done considerable injury to the young wheats, and in many situations, we fear, there is too much ground for the complaint alluded to ; but in others, where the plants have been stronger and the situations more sheltered, less injury has been inflicted, and if we are to judge from present appearances there is great promise of future plenty. Potatoes are generally vigorous in the stem, and all other crops are equally promising.—Doncaster Chronicle. BRECONSHIRE. —A correspondent writes—Real summer weather has set in ; balmy breezes from the s••uth, and a con sequent increase of 14 or 15 degrees of atmospheric heat, will soon force up vegetation to the seasonable point ; and we are happy to say that there are unequivocal appearances of uni versal abundance.—Merthyr Guardian. SOUTII DEVON. —Haymaking has become general in and throughout the west of England, and the crop is heavy and abundant. The country has a very luxuriant appearance, gay with the most delightful blossoms. The prospects of the corn harvest were never more cheering. Wheat and barley are in ear, and the grain, to judge from present appear ances, will be unusually fine.—Exeter Gazette. CU MBERLA N n.—liuring the week we have had an uninter rupted succession of beautiful summer weather. Several re freshing showers have fallen ; and in every direction the grow ing crops exhibit the most satisfactory evidence of the genial season we are at present blessed with.— Carlisle Patriot. GLOUCESTERSIIIILE.—Summer has at length burst upon us with an effulgence quite dazzling, and with a sudden vehemence of heat truly oppressive ; but let us be grateful that while the habiliments of man and woman are voted burdensome unless made of the most zephyr texture, nature all around us is clothed in a dress of magnificent luxuriance. We seldom rem.'mber a season of richer promise than the present. The trees and hedgerows exhibit an unusual richness of foliage, while the gardens, fields, and pastures teem with verdure and beauty. The hay harvest has already commenced, and the crop is most abundant and of the richest quality ; a state of things much to be rejoiced in, not only by the breeders of stock, but by the public at large, as likely materially to affect the existing high prices of butcher's meat, although speculators in old hay will sustain in many cases a serious loss. Numbers who have been standing out in the expectation of obtaining the exorbitant sum of from 61. to even 71. per ton for their hay, and several of whom have refused 5/. 10s. and Si. 155., will perhaps have to subm before long to a fall in pri ce o f nearly one-half. The whey fields aim ist everywhere pre se nt a most gratifying appear ance, and should everything go on well till autumn, the harvest of 1845, in this neighbourhood at least, will be the most abundant ever known. Peas also look well, and pota toes are likely to be an exceedingly plentiful crop. Beans were in several places damaged by the frost, but they have greatly improved, and are bursting into a profusion of bloom, so that an average crop may be expected. The orchard bloom was very gay this year, and the " knitting" has pro ceeded satisfactorily in some places ; but in others we have heard that a partial failure is feared. Speaking generally of the crops, appearances are calculated to lead to the encourag ing hope that the present year will be one of joy and gladness, and unusual plenty to all classes of the community.—Glou easter Chronicle. ACCIDENT ON TIIE GREAT - WESTERN RAILWAY. SLOUGH, WEDNEsnAv.--Major.General Pasley, the Government inspector of railways, arrived here to-day, accompanied by Mr. yesterday, previously to Seymour Clarke, for the purpose of inspecting that portion of the theirline o beingve r which throwntl) e carriagesembankment, traversed between the Langley station and the Dog.kennel-hridge. We may state, without anti cipating the report which the Government inspector will make, that no defects were discovered in the line of rails to have caused the ac cident. The up-line was opened for carriages by one o'clock yesterday, within about three hours after the accident occurred. The down line, the rails of which had to be newly laid down for a considerable distance, in consequence of the injuries they had sustained, was cleared and opened In time for the train which left Paddington for Bristol at five o'clock yester day afternoon. 13y dint of the extraordinary exertions of upwards of 100 men, and a large number of horses, the second-class carriage and the two first-class carriages which were lying in the field of Mr. J. Nash, and the second class carriage which rested on the declivity, were dragged up the embankment, 15 feet in height, and " righted" upon the rails, by 1 o'clock this morning. They were then takeen on to Slough, where they were transferred to the up-line, and thence conveyed to Paddington, where they were inspected by Major-Gen. Finley previously to his proceeding to Slough. The wheels of the luggage van, which was the first carriage which got off the rails, and which caused the whole of the mischief, underwent minute examination. No defects, however, prior to the accident, were discovered. Sir Richard Raw li ns on Vyvyan, the Member for H e l s t on, w h o was in the train yesterday at the time of the accident, and w h o was severely cut upon the forehead, is fast recovering from the effects of his injuries. Sir Richard still remains at the Royal Hotel, and was visited last evening by his brother, from town. Dr. Strong (who sustained an injury in the knee) and Mr. Bristow (whose shoulder was dislocated), who still remain with their families at the Royal Hotel, are convalescent. Mr., Mrs., and Miss Shute, of Southwell- park, Tewkesbury, with a female servant, who were in a first-class carriage which turned twice over in descending the embankment, providentially es. caged uninjured. They immediately proceeded with post-horses to Tewkesbury. To the extraordinary strength of both the first and second.class carriages, which, though very much damaged and shattered, stood the shock so as to enable the passengers to move freely in them, may be attriouted the preservation of the lives of the numerous passengers which wore placed in the most imminent peril. The galvanic telegraph between Slough and Paddington, which had been damaged, and rendered for the time utterly useless, by the wires and posts having been severed and broken, was repaired during the night, and by nine o'clock this morning it was again in full operation. _ _ . To give some idea of the extraordinary speed at which the express train was proceeding at the moment of the upset of the carriages, we may mention that the preceding mile was " timed" by Mr. Bristow, of Haverforthvest, and it was gone over in. only 52 seconds, being at the rate of between 69 and 70 miles per hour. IMPERIAL PA ILL I A.AI.! -- _;liT. "MUSE OF CO 'II,IIONS, .11vv? 18. The SPEAKER took the Chsir shortly botire Four o'clock. Mr. WILSON PATTEN moved, pursuant to notice, upon the motion that the order made on Friday, the 13th instant, that the report from the Commit tee on the St. Helen's Canal and Railway Bill do lie en the tab'e, be read, that the said order be discharged, that the 13111 be recommitted to the former Committee, and that that Com mittee have leave to sit and proceed, and report on Thursday. —Agreed to. On the motion of Mr. WILSON PATTEN, the Lords' amendments to the Blackburn, Burnley, Accrington, and Colne Extension Railway Bill were agreed to. The Ercwash Valley Railway Bill was reported, and the Bill ordered to be recommitted. Molneux's Estate Bill was read a third time and passed. Mr. WILSON PATTEN brought up the report on the Liverpool and Manchester Railway Bill, which was ordered to lie on the table. On the motion of Mr. MUNDY, it was ordered that the period for receiving the report on the Bermondsey Improvement Bill should be extended to Wednesday, the . 25th inst. The Lords' Amendments to the Chester and Holyhead Rail way 13111 were agreed to. N f.W ZEALAND. Sir R. INGLIS presented a petition from a gentleman of the name of Busby, el" New Zealand, praying that the rights of the natives to the land they occupied might be respected in any future legislation. Mr. BARN A rtD presented petitions from the hand-loom weavers of Kirk Eaton, praying for a Ten Hours' Bill. Several similar petitions were also presented by different lion. Members. (In the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, the Lords' Amend ment to the Waterman's Company (Poor's and Endowment Fund) 13i11 was agreed to. The Noble Lord also presented pe titions in favour of a ten hours' Bid. The Grimsby D..cks Bill was reported. Colorel WOCD brought ep the report on the Forth and Clyde Navigation and Union Canal Junction BM, which was ordered to lie on the table. The Middlesborough and Pedear Railway Bill was reported. The Totnes Markets and Waterworks Bill was reported. IRISH COLLEGIATE EDUCATION BILL. Mr. J. O'CONNELL presented petitions from various parts of Ireland against the Colleges (Ireland) Bill. THE TEN HOURS' BILL. Lord J. MANNERS presented a petition from Huddersfield in favour of the Ten hours' Bill. Sir C. NAPIER presented a petition from Stockport to the same effect. Mr. MONCKTON MILNES presented similar petitions from Gloucester. Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition from Hudders. field in favour of the Ten hours' Bill. THE BROAD AND NARROW GAUGE. Mr. PACKE presented a petition from a place the name of which we did not catch, in favour of the narrow gauge. NEW MEDICAL BILL. Mr. MONCKTON MILNES presented a petition against th 36th clause of the New Medical Bill. GENERAL BILLS. Lord J. MANNERS wished to know whether the Bills which stood for consideration to-night were to be taken before the adjourned debate, for, if not, he thought that one day neat week should be appropriate for the purpose, and perhaps the Government would make a House on Wednesday with a view of taking the discussion that evening. Sir G. GREY thought it would be unwise to defer the debate fir any consideration. Sir R. H. INGLIS concurred in that opinion. Sir J. GRAHAM thought that it would be following a bad example to adopt the principle pointed out by the Noble Lord. The business was already fixed for to-morrow and Friday, and it could not, without great inconvenience, be altered. COMMON LAW PROCESS (IRELAND.) Mr. O'CONNELL said, that lie saw three Bills in the orders of the day for amending the Common Law Process in Ireland. He wished to know whether the Irish Judges had been con sulted on these Bills, and whether they were brought in on the responsibility of Government? Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, that they were not brought in on the responsibility of Government. lie believed that the Hon. Member for Cork had the care of them. Mr. O'CONNELL then supposed that the Irish Judges had not been consulted, and it would be better to get rid of them. Mr. Sergeant MURPHY said, that he was not the author of the Bills, but they had been put into his hands from the House of Lords. He had no fondness for them, and should be as glad to wash his hands of them as the Hon. and Learned Member could desire. COMMON LAW PROCESS BILL. Mr. Sergeant MURPHY moved the committal of this Bill. Mr. O'CONNELL moved, as an amendment, that it be committed that day six months. After a few words from Mr. Sergeant MURPHY, the amendment was agreed to without a division. COMMON LAW PROCESS (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion being put for the committal of this Bill, Mr. O'CONNELL moved that it be committed that day six months, which was agreed to. COURT OF SESSION (SCOTLAND) PROCESS BILL. On the motion being put for the committal of this Bill, Mr. O'CONNELL moved that it be committed that day six months, which was agreed to. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE moved the second reading of the ARRESTMENT OF WAGES BILL (SCOTLAND). The LORD ADVOCATE was understood to object to cer tain parts of the Bill. Mr. DUNCOMBE said it was most objectionable that a person, employing from 200 to 300 men, should be served on Saturday night with as many summonses for the arrest ment of the wages of his workmen, and that in the event of his refusing to comply with them, that an action might be brought against him by the persons suing. Such claims were often made by these persons when not one shilling was owing to them by the workmen. No course of this kind should be taken until the Court had given judgment in the matter. Then one-half of the costs of such proceedings should be paid by the pursuer, and the other half by the person pursued, and that in the event of no debt being due that the workman should be compensated by the person snaking the false claim. He was of this opinion, because the greatest extortion was practised on workmen, who would rather pay the amount claimed than lose a day's work. The arrestntent of wages in Scotland had been productive of the greatest extravagance and of the greatest demoralisation, and was opposed by both the employer and the employed. There was no law of this sort in England, and why should there be in Scotland ? He brought in a Bill for the assimilation of the law of the two countries, and had very much regretted that he withdrew it. fie would leave the matter now entirely in the hands of the Government, but would not be satisfied that the Bill should be put off from day to day, and that legislation on the subject should be postponed. Sir J. GRAHAM said it was a subject most difficult to be adjusted. He had already given the opinion of Sir William Rae, which was against the law for the arrestment of wages, but at the same time Sir William Rae thought it might be dangerous to interfere, and that the working classes would themselves be the first to feel the evils of this interference. He had no objection on the part of the Government to make some modifications of the Bill (as we understood), so as to render it more satisfactory.—[The Hon. Baronet was more than usually indistinct.] Mr. RUTHERFORD was understood to approve of the course taken by the Right Hon. Baronet. He thought it ab surd that Gentlemen who were entirely ignorant of Scotland and Scotch affairs should school Scotch Members on this sub. ject.—( A laugh.) Captain WEM YSS would not have said one word upon this Bill but for what had fallen from the Right Hon. Baronet. He paid 400/. a week to '2OO workmen, and he never made any deduction from their wages. The power of attaching wages would have the effect of encouraging shopkeepers who gave credit to profligate workmen, to the prejudice of the families of the latter. The Bill was then read a second time, RAILWAY CLAUSES CONSOLIDATION BILL (SCOTLAND). Mr. LABOUCHERE then asked how long it was proposed to defer the discussion on the Railway Clauses Consolidation Bill ( Scotland). The LORD ADVOCATE replied, that day week. Mr. LABOUCHERE wished the lime to have an opportunity of discussing the principle of the Bill. lie could never obtain an answer from her Majesty's Government, aye or no, whether they assented to the principle or not. What, he would ask, was the reason for postponing it for a week t He confessed he saw no reason for doing so. If the Noble and Learned Lord would bring it on to-morrow, he would be quite ready to,discuss it. The LORD ADVOCATE then appointed to bring it on to-morrow. Sir it. PEEL said that the only reason he had for postpon ing it was to give room for the adjourned debate, and thus obviate any complaint that might be made of unfair advantage being taken. Ile would not then pledge himself to any defi nite course respecting the further progress of the Bill until he had heard the discussion. Mr. WARBURTON thought the whole conduct of the Bill so peculiar as to require further considera tion. It was first brought in without the clause ; in its pro gress through the House the clause was surreptitiously in serted ; the irregularity was discovered, the Bill was withdrawn, it was re- introduced without the clause, and sent up to the higher House. Subsequently it was returned, the clause having been again inserted by their Lordships up stairs. He hoped, therefore, that either the clause would be withdrawn altogether, or another Bill be brought in by his Noble and Learned Friend. Mr. BROTHERTON doubted whether it was not an in fringement of their privileges for the House of Lords to insert a clause which they had previously discarded. Lord J. RUSSELL suggested that the House would have an opportunity of discussing the propriety of the clause when in Committee on the I ill. Mr. RUTHERFORD thought the withdrawal of the clause very irregular. Sir R. PEEL considered the objection to the clause very reasonable. A rule applicable to England was equally tenable towards Scotland, and for that reason he had no reluctance in saying he was unfavourable to its insertion. Mr. LABOUCHERE inquired whether, then, the Govern ment disagreed with the conduct of the Upper House ? S\IALL DEBTS BILL. On the SPEAKER'S suggestion, this Bill was ordered to be read this day six months. Mr. FITZROY KELLY then observed that he had con sulted with various parties in the country on the subject of small debts, and he should be ready to bring in a new Bill, containing amendments, on Monday next. UNIVERSITY COLLEGE (SCOTLAND. ) Mr. ELLICE, jun., said, if it was convenient, he would wish to be informed whether the Government intended to oppose or support the Bill ? Sir JAMES GRAHAM was understood to say that he was not in a condition to state whether the Government intended to oppose the Bill or not. NEW ZEALAND—ADJOURNED DEBATE. On the reading of the order of the day for resuming the de bate on Mr. C. Buller's motion respecting New Zealand, Captain ROUS said it was riot his fault that the subject had not been brought before the House at an earlier period. His object was to give the Directors of the New Zealand Com pany an oportunity of explaining the charges which he and others had brought against them. He begged to compliment the Hon. and Learned Gentleman for the able speech which he made last night on bringing forward the subject, and regretted that he had attacked the Colonial-office in the person of a gen tleman of pure philanthropy. He said that the New Zea landers were cannibals and notorious liars, and that he was desirous of bringing them to a state of civilisation.—( A laugh. ) His Hon. Friend had given them terrible descriptions of the New Zealanders, which they did not deserve. The other day he met Mr. Browne, who informed him that last year he saw 400 acres of wheat entirely cultivated by the natives, and they were able to sell the produce at 2s. per bushel. He stated this to show the state of civilisation at which they had arrived. The character of the East Anglians, in the time of Julius Ctesar, would correspond with that given by the Hen. and Learned Gentleman of the New Zealanders of the present day. The Honourable and Gallant Member then went into a detail of various negotiations which had, from time to time, been made with the New Zealanders on the part of this country for commercial purposes. In 1834 they received a British flag from Captain Lambert, of (as we understood) her Majesty's ship Trafalgar. When the New Zealand Company was formed in 1838, the former society was merged into the new one, and 40,0001. worth of the new trade was made over to the old shareholders. Now he slmuld be glad to know what consideration was given for the 40,000/., for if he was not grievously mistaken, at the time the new Company was es'ablished, the original society was not possesscdof lard in New Zealand that was wt r.h more than 100/. in the market. When Colonel Wakefield went out, twelve ships followed him, which carried out 216 cabin passengers and 900 labourers ; and it was a singular circumstance that these ships did not know their destination till they called at an interme diate port. 'These cabin passengers were persons who had been secusiomed to the luxuries of life in their own country, and were landed on a barren land, amidst a population of savages, with scarcely any preparation for their reception. It was most ex traordinary what negotiations had been entered into with human beings of the lowest scale in existence, with respect to the purchase of land between the 41st and 43d degree of latitude— ( A laugh )—just as if they knew the meaning of such terms. Mr. Carrington, the agent of the New Zealand Company, said that the purchase-money was never paid, and that the promises of the New Zealand Company were looked upon with the greatest distrust. The nature of the ar isles that passed in these negotiations was rather strange, comprising knives, spoons, combs, and no less than 144 Jews'-harps. In 1839 Lord Normanby appointed Captain Hobson governor of 10 1 , 1)7 colony, and sent nut orders, graphi c i n composition, but very sound in prineiple. (The lion. Member here read ex tracts from the document in question, w hich, from his posi tion, his back being turned to the galley y, were w hilly inaudible. ) If they, instead of issuing such choice instruc tions, had laid an embargo on the Company's ships. and not put—to use a homely expression —the cart before the horse, and if the Governor, instead of withdrawing to an uninhabited corner of the island, had settled where the great mass of the population were collected, they would not have struck so fatal a blow to the vitality of the colony. By the treaty of Waitanga the natives were given all the rights and privileges of Englishmen, and a right and title to their lands, but the Governor turned round and said to them, " Y ou shall not sell your land to an Englishman nor to a native, but to me. at 75 per cent.," so that it seas absurd to say that they had endowed them with the privileges of Briti , h subjects. What right had they to exact such a monstrous tax as this from the unfortunate natives? Then the Government could not grant lands to the New Zealand Company which they themselves did not possess. No one in that House, or in the country, could understand the diffieulties which any one, placed in a responsible situation in New Zealand, had to con tend with. When Captain Fitzroy went out he found the treasury bankrupt, the colonial accounts neglected, that the English had fled before the natives in an engagement, and that 5,600/., out of a debt of 25,000/., were owing to Govern ment officers. Placed then in such an embarrassing position, he (Captain Rous) considered that he had acted to the best of his ability—that he could not have acted better than he had done for the public good. He had another charge against the New Zealand Company respe sting the harbour duties which they had imposed, and which had had the effect of driving ships from the ports of the colony to those of the Society Islands, and, besides, no country being so well adapted for smuggling, tobacco was sold by many of the natives at a shilling a pound, whilst honest shopkeepers could scarcely sell it at 2s. It was so with spirits, which were easily smuggled into the colony, and sold at reduced prices, so great were the facilities offered to smugglers. Would it not be more just to abolish duties which gave so inefficient a protection to the revenue, and to adopt in their place a property-tax. Capt. Fitzroy was blamed for not bringing the parties who took a part in the Wairou mas sacre, to justice. Why he did net arrive in New Zealand until a year after that occurrence. As he could not try the parties he thought it best to virtually acquit them. He believed that Capt. Fitzroy would gain golden opinions before he died, for his conduct in New Zealand. Then the New Zealand Company had received a large sum of money illegally, for they disposed of great quantities of land, and realised large sums of money before their charter was granted. They stated that their capital was 300,000/., whereas it did not exceed 160,0001. His next charge was equally serious, because it was their duty as Gentlemen to protect those who suffered from it. (The Gallant Member then read a statement published by the New Zealand Company, stating that emigrants on their arrival in the colony would find the officer of the Company ready to give them useful advice and employment in the ser vice of the Company.) Was not this a strong inducement to ablebodied men to leave this country? Instead, however, of carrying out the promises which they put forward the agent of the Company found that he could not give those who had gone out sufficient employment, and was obliged to send them twe n ty miles into the interior for the purpose of being employed in the clearing of land; but they returned at the end of a week weary of the employment to which they had been sent, and means had to be taken to obtain suitable employment for them from landholders who were paid by the Company for this purpose. These then were his charges against the Company, and all he 'could say was that if they were unfounded—that the documents which he had read were not true, he should be happy to make an ample apology for having brought them before the House. With respect to the report of the House of Commons, he had given notice of a motion to the effect—that the Company had acted irregularly in disposing of land to emigrants in the manner they did. He was sure neither side of the House would allow the rights and privileges of the British Crown to be trampled upon, and he therefore relied with confidence upon their agreeing with him, that a factious party like the New Zealand Company ought not to be allowed to trample and tyrannise over those whom they had unfortunately got:into their control. Mr. AGLIONBY would not deny that he had some pecu niary interest in the New Zealand Company, and perhaps it would be thought unbecoming in him to take part in the de bate, but he could assure the House that the considerations which had induced him to join the New Zealand Society were far from being of a pecuniary nature. He had allied himself with the Society at the earnest entreaties of a number of re spected friends, who had represented to him the good the co lony was likely to do to a number of poor persons in this coun try, and having been now for three er four years connected with the Society, he could state that he had never for one moment regretted his alliance with it, because he believed lie had all along been associated with an excellent body of ho nourable and high-minded men, for the purpose of carrying Out what he believed to be a most benevolent object.—(Hear, hear.) The Gallant Officer had stated, in his usually clear and straightforward manner, the opinion he had formed of the proceedings and conduct of the New Zealand Company, and had no less frankly added that all he wanted was an explanation. He (Mr. Aglionby) fully believed him, and he could assure the Gallant Captain that his complaints were, one and all, founded on misapprehension; but the present was neither a convenient nor an equitable time for him to enter into a vindication of the New Zealand Company. If he there ffore merely now gave a plain and flat denial of the facts the Gallant Member had stated, it was from no disrespe c t f or th e character and integrity of the Gallant Officer, b u t b ecause if he were to attempt any vindication he should be met by unpleasant and unfair assertions frem some Hon. Gentlemen who might have received information on the subject from the same source as the Gallant Officer, which would no doubt be followed by counter assertions from the Hon. Gentlemen con nected with the New Zealand Company, and thus the debate would resolve itself into a petty squabble of a personal nature.— ( Hear, hear.) But most of the points to which the Gallant Captain had alluded had bean fairly investigated before a proper tribunal, and that investigation had resulted in the entire and unequivocal exoneration of the New Zealand Company. At the proper time, however, even in that House, which appeared to him (Mr. Aglionby) a most inconvenient tribunal for entering into details, he should be prepared to enter into full and minute explanations, but this could only be done by him when the House felt disposed to go into committee on the matter. The Gallant Officer had evidently a misconcep tion, too, of the financial circumstances of the New Zealand Company, or the Gallant Officer would never have ventured to make so bold and sweeping an assertion as that the Company had swindled large bodies of people out of their money and out of their land. He did not know where the Gallant Officer had collected his details, but he wished the Gallant Officer, before going into committee, would refer to the various papers and docu ments which had been published on the subject, and he was sure the Gallant Officer would find that he had fallen into error. But he could excuse the Gallant Officer, because it was quite evident to him that the Gallant Officer had been misled by parties who were in the habit of making Members of that house vehicles for their own misrepresentations. Dawn to the time of Captain Hobson's arrival in the colony there was perfect harmony between the colonists and the natives ; so that they were, in fact, as one family. It was not yet too late to restore that state of things; but it could only be effected by an entire abandonment of the principles which have governed hitherto the colonial department of the Government. The colonists had suffered much. He hoped it was not too late to place them again in a state of security and prosperity. He implored the Government and the House not to go now into minute questions, but to consider the best means of promoting the interests of the settlers and the natives. He implored the House for God's sake to listen to the evidence on both sides, and not to be governed by the testimony of one party alone. Before he sat down he would refer to the case of Dr. Evans, who memorialised the Colonial office, praying to be informed as to the position in which those settlers would be placed who had made purchases from the natives? The only answer he received was, that the Ministers were about to send out a new governor with full instructions. Was that a sufficient answer to an Englishman who had embarked all his property in settling his family in that country?—(Hear, bear.) He again im plored the Government to reconsider their policy, and to take measures to promote the prosperity of the colony, and the wel fare of the country.—(Hear, hear.) When the Hon. Member sat down, several Members rose to address the House, but upon repeated calls for the" new Mem ber," who rose at the same time, they gave way to Mr. BARKLY (of Leominster), who said, that although he had no present interest in the Company, he shared with every Member of the House in an anxious desire to see our colonies flourish, and the system of misgovernment which had so much depreciated their importance put an end to.—( Hear, hear.) He believed that the object of the New Zealand Company was to render a most valuable service to the country.—( Hear.) Bus ho did not think that any just complaint could be made against Lord Stanley or those who co-operated with him in the Colonial-office.—( Hear.) He was well acquainted with the mode of doing business in that office, and he could speak for the urbanity, politeness, and attention of the Noble Lot d, and the Right Hon. Gentleman the Under-Secretary for the Colonies. Ho approved in the main of the Noble Lord's colonial policy, but he must express his regret, that the in consistent policy which was occasionally pursued at home, was followed in respect to our colonial possessions. The same policy which at ene time encouraged the agriculturists to hope for a perpetual protection, and another time induce the free-traders to expect the speedy abolition of all protection was followed by giving ;to Canada a free importation of corn to this country. He would not undertake the defence of the New Zealand Com pany as a merely commercial body, but he thought that the fate of a large body of our countrymen, settled in a distant land, had a claim upon the grand inquest of the nation.— ( Hear, hear). He had no wish to attach unnecessary blame to Captain Fitzroy, but he must beg to call the attention of the House to the deplorable change wbich had taken place in the feelings of the nation since the arrival of that officer in the colony—the events which followed the massacre of Wairou—to the unredeemable paper currency, and to unpunished murders. They ought to give the inhabitants of New Zealand something more of what resembled an Englishman's idea of a representa tive institution, instead of the council that at present existed. —( Hear, hear.) With regard to the settlers, they ought to send them a sufficient force to set their minds perfectly at ease with respect to themselves and their families, or make them friendly with the natives. With regard to the natives, there ought not to exist the slightest feeling against them ; he would have them treated with firmness, but at the same time with the greatest kindness. They ought to be treated as spoiled children. He did not admit that the provisions of the treaty should extend to the middle or sout h ern i s l ands altogeth e i o r s sf a i Go d n m o da i r t y t a, e d nhd t e o t v ‘h b , ea e s e g no u no i tv t e eorn e s e x i o e on m f p o tf thoseftrhoemw inhabitants h it o . C o, which were 1 si l d tl e . r r e edosupt oughts h c a l tt tt n i l e t tic t 'e o alm b l e the first object in the colonisation of an island. H e had some experi ence o f missionaries, but the intolerance of u to ne b d e uca e t n e t d irly men,edepaesnmdeadnv upon. He missionarieseg were, ought not that was due to th em as m i nisters of the Gospel, but " buth t e he w m ou a l l d l justly suppress their desire to interfere in secular affairs.— ( Hear, hear.) Worldly aggrandisement was manifesti ng it se lf in too great a d egree i n the grants of land. With rega r d t o the Comp an y th e Government ought to be prep are d t o b uy up all that wou ld b e sufficient togive security to those who raens(ildmedakienitNaeuwbZuemablale nd.They ought to increase the grant, instrument in raising New Zealand to that high and important position amonr , the nations of the world, whi c h it was d est i ned to fill, when"' perhaps the institu tions of this country may be indebted to the perseverance and gratitude of the descendants of the New Zealanders. —( Hear, hear.) There were few subjects on which he would have fell it expedient to have troubled the House for such a length o time; he thanked the House for its attention.—(Cheers.) Mr. HOPE m a d e a f ew o b servat i ons in explanation, aftett which Sir R. INGLIS said that though he was not one of those who were in the habit of complimenting young Members, he could not rise without congratulating the Hon. Member -ho had just sat down, on the tone, temper. and talent of tins speech which he had just made.—( Hear, hear.) He could not, at the same time, say that he should coucur with him in the conclusions which he had drawn, though lie liked the manner in which he arrived at them. le would state how much he differed from the Hon. Member for Cockermouth, and still more from his Hon. and Learned Friend, to whose speech he listened with perfect attention yesterday evening. The principal error in the speech of his Hon. Friend, and upon which he (Sir R. Inglis) held that the falsity of his conclusions entirely depended, was the assumption that when they were dealing with the New Zealanders, they were dealing with people with whom it was not sei v e p s os o s n i b a l e n y n u s r p e fi c t i e t s h o e f t . e t ti he ua lie i t o y i . d eof He d England described edt shouldheth as pu i savagesthm and cannibals, who, from their degraded state of ignorance, were totally incapable of appreciating the value of land, and truly incompetent to make a bargain, which they themselves professed to respect and desired to preserve. He was not prepared to come to the conclusion to which the Honourable Member wished to lead the House, that every acre over which the natives had not carried the spade or ;dough was as much the property of the New Zealand Company, or of any first comer, as if that Company were purely and absolutely the inlinbitants. Several }ears ago, when the question was first brought forward, he hebeved in 1838, he (Sir R. Inglis) was one of those who contended that they had no more right to pro fess to colonize new Z...a1an.1 than they had a right to prof. ss to colonize the kingdom of France. He made that statement under no anticipation that any Honourable Member wool I fake that illustration, and adopt it as his own, as his Honourable Friend did last night. From the moment when, whether right or wrong, they recognized the independence of New Zealand, from that moment they had no right to deal with it as the New Zealand Company now wished to deal with it. The first discovery of a country was sufficient to give the nation which had discovered it the right of pre-occupancy as against all other nations, but never had it been contended that they had a right to claim property as against the inhabitants of the coil. flow different was that from the doctrine which his Honourable Friend laid down last night? lie said that the New Zealanders had no idea of the sale of property, and then be rather incon- F istently proceeded to maintain the statements of the New Zealand Company with respect to the purchase which they had made from those whom, by his admission, knew nothing of the sale of property. It was very convenient for the New Zealand Company to say that the natives had no knowledge of property ; but if that be true with respect to the area which still remained open, surely it must be equally true with respect to the property which it had become possessed of. The whole of the property purchased, consisting of some millions, had been obtained for the sum of 7,388/. 7s. 7d. The price which they sold it at, amounted to 128,1361. These were the protectors of the natives of New Zealand ; these were the per sons who complained of the missionaries for instigating the natives against them, and of Captain Fitzroy for taking their part. With respect to the allegations made against the missionaries, he thought they could be met as easily as they were made. ;le agreed with the Hon. Member for Ceominster that the glory of God was the main object to be regarded in the conversion of these unfortunate creatures, and, he believed, that that was a truth recognised by the great bulk of Mein hers on both sides of the House. He would now ask any man to state what was the difference in the state of New Z-aland when it was visited by Captain Cooke, or even later, in 1814, and its present condition ?—( Hear, hear.) So recently as 1814 a white man could not land on it, or walk alone in the country without endangering his life; while, on the other hand, in the past year, the Bishop of New Zealand had walked 300 miles in the visitation of his diocese, and in a situation where it was impossible to procure a conveyance, and during all that time he experienced the greatest hospitality_ hospitality that would do honour to the most civilised people in the world.—(Hear, hear.) What, then, he would ask, could this change be ascribed to but the influence of the missionaries? In the northern island there were even at present 33,000 Christians, 14,000 of whom were attending school, and there were-no less than 3.200 of them regular communicants. He therefore thought that he had made out a case in their favour which entitled them to the gratitude of the House for those glorious results. It had been said by the Hon. Member for Liskeard that the missionaries took the lead in speculations for the purchase of land, and these were Church of England mis• sionaries. He ( Sir R. Inglis) was not in a position to say much of the missionaries of the Church of Rome, as their resi dence there had been but very recent; nor had he sufficient information to enable him to do so ; but there was this impor tant difference between them and the Wesleyan missionaries on the one hand, and the missionaries of the Established Church on the other, that the former were removable from station to station, while the latter settled down, with their wives and families, in a particular locality. There was, there fore, he contended, a necessity thus imposed upon them to in vest a certain portion of their salaries in the purchase of land. It had been stated that 196,000 acres were possessed by the missiona r i es; b u t w h en every deduction was made, it would be found that their portico was less than one-half of what the Government allowed to the other missionaries in New South Wales. The greater part, toe, of this land W 23 described (and he believed most ac curately) as nothing better than moving sand. This led him to the proportion of cultivated and uncultivated land in New Zealand. It had been stated that there were 713,000,000 of acres altogether in the country, of which 60,000,000 were cultivable ; but he apprehended that that state ment could not be sustained by the actual survey. He had it on the authority of an eminent na turalist who had visited the country, that the proportion of cul tivable land was far less than in any other country in the world; in fact that there was not more than five per cent. of the whole island that could be cultivated. Supposing therefore, that Mr. Fairbairn or Mr. Taylor hail received a grant of 5,600 acres of this kind of land, he did not c , insider that they had received a greater amount of remuneration than they would have received from Government, had they been situated in any other part of our South Australian colonies. He thought that they were entitled to be supported. There never was any irregularity proved against them, and he thought they did not deserve the running fire which bad been kept up against them in the speech cf the Hon. Member fur Liskeard. With respect to the son of Mr. W. Clarke he did not consider that he was entitled to the censure which had been passed upon him, unless it was for the atrocious crime of being a young man. He thought that no one could he got so well qa .litied to fill his situation. He had now to thank the House for the in. dulgence which had been given to him in making these re marks in defence of the missionaries. He would now, therefore, say to the House that if there was one duty more incumbent on them than another it was that they should not avail them selves of their position—that position which had been conferred on them from on high for other purpo,es—to sanction an inva sion of the lands of a weak and defenceless people. Throughout the speech of the Hon. Member for Liskeard there was an utter disregard of all parties concerned, with the exception of the New Zealand Company, and of a certain por. tion of their fellow-subjects who were in New Zealand. He was willing to admit there could be few public companies con taining a greater number of respectable names ; and he ad mitted, also, that they were not jobbers in the market, as the shareholders of other companies were. They were not gam bling or jobbing speculators. He thought that the gentlemen who composed that company had no unfair object in view in joining it but to gain an honourable profit ; and he was sure they had no wish to invade the rights of others. He was not, therefere, one of those who wished to run down the New Zealand Company. lie would now briefly advert to an other subject which he had already slightly glanced at, namely, tho right of the natives to these lands. He had it on the autho rity of one who had travelled among them, that there was no people in the world who possessed a more keen sense of the rights of property. They had, he might almost say, a here ditary sense of those rights. Was he to be told, then, that those people, who had a name for every hill, every valley, and every mountain in the country, that they h a d no sense of the rights of p roperty ? He would beg leave to read a petition from Mr. Busby, a missionary, which he was pre vented from doing that evening, when he had presented it to the House. (The Hon. Member here read the petition.) He (Sir R. Inglis) could not understand, after the unbiassed state ments of these respectable authorities, the grounds which had been put forward by certain parties that the natives had no right to the land of which they disposed, or that from their ignorance they should be deprived of its full value.—( Hear.) He had, in conclusion, to to thank the House for the kind in dulgence which they always extended to him, but especially to. night, while he went through those minute details which he felt bound to refer to. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by giving his decided negative to the resolutions brought forward by the Hon. Member for Liskeard. ne t io , Mr. HAWES sa id it was no t o ften that coloni a l su bj ects oc cupied the atte n ti on o f the House, and he was gl a d to f i nd h th o a t t ice t . h a e s pftreisnevnotivoendenoht only adcomeso prominently o n f tl t y he Before lt r aeiey theirin e the New Zealand, but indeed all their colonial policy. I n ta ki ng a prin pr c o ip part in the discussion of this question he would not be influenced by any party factions or motives. Before he went further, he would address himself to one or two points on which the Right Honourable Baronet had spoken in a manner calculated to excite prejudice, if not delusion. He had said that the New Zealand Company had put 121,000/. into their pockets, having sold land for 123,00 '1., which they had purchased for little more than 7,0001. But it should be remembered that the 7,000/. was not to be considered the value of the land ; subsequent to their purchase, large sums of money had been expended upon surveys, roads, bridges, and other improvements, ail calculated to give a value to the land. He had had a paper put that evening into his hand containing but a sketch of the amount which the Company had expended upon emigration, transmission of ships, surveys, public works, wages, and trusts of churches and parochial charities. The sum there mentioned was 377,0001., but he had been assured, and he felt convinced of the tiuth of the statement, that that estimate was 200,000/. short of the sum actually spent by them. Again the Right Hon. Baronet said that nothing was mentioned by his Friend the Member for Liskeard, but the rights of the New Zealand Company. That assertion, he must be permitted to say, was not correct ; other, and equally sacred interests, had been discussed, but even if the charge were true, which he em phatically denied, his Hon. Friend had but considered the interests and rights of the New Zealand Company in volved in the right of forming missionary establish ments in their colony. He thought the Colonial -office had made serious errors, and to them he would now call, and, if possible, keep the attention of the House. A report had been laid on the table, expository of the course pursued by the Government towards the colony in question. In the spirit and intentions of that report he entirely concurred ; but changes had taken place, and changes of such a character as precluded the applicability of the recommendations of the report to the altered circumstances of the colony. The speech of the Under-Secretary of State had given him no satisfaction. He had expected that the Hon. Gentleman would have, at i least, addre s s e d hi mse lf to the evils of the colony, and admit ting, have s had owe d out some means of remedying them. i incumbent ember for o n Liskeard hm to iia d n o d t c —( Hear, h ear .) A part, however, of h t it hat the was i New Zeala n d as d e b ase d . What he said was, s o e they were not as morose, vitiated, or unsociable as the North Ame rican Indians, they were inferior in the arts of i Tcv ization and of war. B u t even t h ese admissions of deficiency he turned into arguments in their favour. They were easily to be engaged in trade, and show e d great capacity for all thes art of civilisation. Such 'ens th e p resent state of the colony. But fewa since it had b een prosperous. He had before him the aee( y nt ea h ra ts of the ships that left the harbour in the year 1844, at which period the inhabitants were thriving and its trade increasing. But, by a dispatch of Captain Fitzroy, dated October 15, he found the very reverse. It was there stated that there was no export, no funds. No titles to the land were issued. The salaries were several months in arrear, and the local Government had no resources. --(Hear.) Surely, when such an alarming change had occurred within a short period, the House ought to have heard from the Govern ment the reasons or the remedies for the decline. Nothing, however, had b een g i ven . Th e en ti re s peech of the Under Office Secretary was absorbed in a defence of the Colonial —a petty defence of the pettiest officers of the colony.— ( Hear. ) As the Government had not ventured to touch upon these points, he would himself discuss them. It was the actual in fluxhad been the prime and of settlers into the colony that original president,and in consequence of the influx Busby was appointed d been obliged to seek the interference of questionable settlers, had that • dthe t home. At perm missionaries, of the Government a. of wh om he wished to speak with all respect, but who, he mu-t say, did not deserve the credit which the. Right Honourable Baronet had accorded them, had oppo.ed colonization generally. ~ The internal wars," said Mr. Busby, " had depopulated the country." The missionaries could, therefore, hay.