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iPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. I GLOBE.—If parties were to be judged of only by their outward acts, there might perhaps 1* some ground for surprise, and in some quarters even for dis appointmeut, at there being no more difference than is shown in debate, betiveen the measures suggested , by Lord John Russell and those which the present Mi nistry seem. willing to adopt. But the same meastire may have a different meaning and a very different effi cacy in different hands ; and this is specially the case in our dealing with a people alienated fro'tn us , as the . Irish are by a long course of ill-usage, and who; in looking at any measure of redress falling short—as all measures now to be proposed by any party must fall ihort—of their present demands, will view it in a very iifferent light, accordingly as it comes from those Nyho lave ever been more ready to repress than to relieve, or frorn those who have always done for them as much .as they were allowed to do—little, perhaps, as the Irish May -think that to be. It is undoubtedly through 'the hands of the Tories that the injustice of this country towards Ireland, to use the eloquent expression of Mr. Sydney Smith, has hitherto passed, with very 'title show of reluctance or regret, to mitigate the tenor of its severity; and though we may give to the Tories of the present day, or at any rate to the better part, of them, full credit for a wish to repair the wrongs done by their predecessors, yet to employ them in the work of reconciliation of Ireland, which is at preSent the great business and the first duty of England, is vary much as if, in attempting to make up an old quarrel with a neighbour ' we sent to him, as a mediator, one between whose family and his there had been, felo n But the. to son, a feud for many generations. the Tories of the present generation have, as regards Ireland, something more than the sins of their fathers to answer for. Disclaim and disguise it, as they will, it is not the less true, that whatever there is' in England—and there is much of anti-Catholic and anti- Irish feeling—we might almost say, whatever there is in this country of' disaffection towards Ireland, is td be found in their ranks a chief element, at the same tune, of their strength as a party, of their weakness and in capacity as a Government. The better and wiser , yortion among them may regret the existence ; of such a spirit, may even lament most bitterly the violence and indiscretion of its occasional outbreaks ; but there it is in the midst of them, thwarting their good intentions and tainting all their • coun sels .; and where it cannot mar their purposes in he conception, raising up between their fulfilment and he Irish people, the still cherished remembrance of . t, 4. oppression. This it is that in so great a degree is the whole party for the task of mediation • and in is 1 sense it was both fair and pertinent, in Lord J. Russo'', l to remind the House, as he did in this debate, of the , very " untoward" speech of the present Lord Chan cellor. It is all very well to say that the words have been explained, and that the explanation or apology, such as it was, has been deemed sufficient, and acce_pted, we suppose, on behalf of the Irish people, by both ItOuses .f Parliament. All this may be true enough, and, as re gards Lord Lyndhurst himself, it might be unfair, alter this, to charge him with any peculiar bitterness 'against any who may differ from him in religion or in nice. But the question still remains, what is the impres sion which the words made, and still make, upon he Irish i people? The insulted nation, for it was an in sult, s perhaps entitled to recluire some better atonement than that sort of apology which passes current in Parlia ment ' • and the Irish people, in particular, may be ex eused for its reluctance to plaoe either its honour or its interest in the hands, at any rate, of the present Hone 'of Commons. On the same, grounds, even the various ' sallies of Mr. Bradshaw, uttered as they were to the ears of an applauding constituency, were not altogether unworthy of notice; for to the Irish such things appear but as a specimen of the manner in which the suffrages of Englishmen may be won, and such things, in trath, blotches as they are.upon the otherwise fair and smoeth face of Toryism, betray but too surely the existence of the bad humours within. For all this, it is the present pleasure of Englishmen that the . Irish as well as them selves should be goveruedby Tories, and it remains only for us to consider in what way they have dealt, and are likely to deal, with this great difficulty. The present debate contains their defence up to the present time , and defend more suicidal defee 'than that put forth by their great advocate, Sir l,,(raham, we think we never sate. STANDARD.—The trial of the Irish prosecuti ns in the House of Commons bids fair to rival in tedio - ness the procesk:which is the subject 'of scrutiny. 1- ready six nights have been consumed without, ap • - rently, the slightest progress towards an en ; but with this consolation, that the W ig speeches become steadily more shallow and more stupid, and therefore less mischievous ;as ' they proceed. We doubt whether (to borrow the Greek phrase) even "the brazen bowels" of a Tipperary fanatic could secrete all the poison diffused through the capita mortua of Mr. Benjamin Hawes and Sir Thomas Wilde's drowsy labours of last night. Mr. Hawes is very angry with her Majesty's Ministers for having done nothing for Ireland in two years and a half that they have been in office ; but men with more knowledge and better memories than Mr. Hawes, will be of opinion that her Majesty's Ministers have done a great - deal for Ireland within their period of office, short as it has been. First, they have obviated the rebellion threatened by Mr. Hawes and his friends, as the inevitable consequence of the dismissal of the late Government, and which, to, say truth, the late Government had done its best to prepare for whatever Administration should follow it. Now this is surely doing something for Ireland • a rebellion is no jesting matter, and therefore, as far I reland is concerned, Ministers have done much. But in this affair they have done a good deal for Eng land and Scotland, as well as Ireland, for they have shown. that the fear of an Irish rebellion, by which, it was attempted to rivet a mischievous and odious Ad ministration upon the empire, is a vain' bugbear. But, cry the philosophers of the Hawes school, smile thing ought to have been done for Ireland. Now, the answer to this trash is that—besides, that the state in which the late Government left Ireland, by their own confession, ripe for rebellion, is not that in , which measures of any kind can be tried with - the best , prospect of success—lreland, like England and Scot land, has been doing something for herself, ' and doing it very effectually, for the social condition of the country is improving with a rapidity perfectly as tonishing. The fewer somethings from without by which that process of improvement shall be inter rupted, the better for the country. The political tinkers, who always make twe holes while they badly stop one, have been hitherto the curse of the country, and the highest praise to any Irish government will be, that it abstains from tinkering. Nobody has for centuries said that something must be done for England or for Scotland ; or, if any one has sold so, he has been laughed at, and therefore England and Scotland have done very well for themselves ; -dom .pelled to submit to the law, when disposed to be restive, and therefore in the end reconciled to it, and even fond of - it. So it will be with Ireland, if only the something mongers be put to silence or disregarded, as there'•is good hope they soon may be. The Irish Government has, however, done something more than obviate the present rebellion threatened—it has extinguished the seeds of future agitation and of ultimate rebellion, by ' extirpating the Repeal Association, for extirpated it is, - though the name survives. LAW INTELLIGENCE.. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, Feb. 20. (Sittings at Nisi Prins, at Guildhall, before Lord Chief, Jas. tice TINDAL and a Special Jury.) FRASER V. I3AOLEY.—CRIM. CON. AL • V • • The examination of Elizabeth Barrow (continued from our Afternoon Edition Of yesterday) :—Mrs. Fraser was in bed when be called. He asked how Mrs. Fraser was ; I answered she was going on very well, and asked him up to the drawing room. I went and told Mrs. Fraser that Mr. Bagley was come to inquire for her, and I asked her if she wished to see him.. She said she would be glad to see him. He went up stairs; none of the children were there then. In a short time I went up again with a message; some of the children were in the room then. In a short time he came down, and said that Mrs. Fraser was very nervous and feverish. Dr. Car lisle came to see her about four or five days after this; he same to see Mrs. Fraser, and remained a short time with her,. In 1843 we went t 6 Ittimsgate. Miss Watson was with us during a part of the time we were there. Mrs. Fraser had several friends there with whom she associated. I saw Mr. Bagley there. He came to see us about four days before we left Ramsgate. Mr. Bagley came up with us. Mr. and Miss Elvis also came up. Mr. Bagley came to York-buildings;. he remained far some time and left ; he left Mrs. and • Miss Etwis there. Mrs. Fraser appeared to be a fond and kind mother. She was prudent and economical in her'househOl4 habits. Cross-examined by Mr. TiiEslGan.—Jessy Salter and-Mary • Cameron were in the service of Mrs. Fraser part of the time I was there. Mr. Bagley used to visit us frequently during 1841 and 1842. I did not know when Mr. Bagley was except.when he was to dine there. I - do not -recollect being desired to get a chicken, or rabbit, or some other deli cacy, for Mr. Bagley. Ido not recollect making any obser vation to the servants, Salter and Cameron, with regard to • Mr. Bailey, coming. so often to the house. The.ablieitor for the plaintiff called upon me at York-buildings. I did not • answer any questions to him. 14r. Shavi,. the solicitor for the defendant called upon me; he was not .With . :mejour hours ; I don't think he was with me two hours. We went to Brighton in July, 1842. Ido not know when Mrs. Fraser -and Mr. B ag ley went out on the Sunday. do not recollect that I p dinner for them. Ido not recollect whether • Mrs. Fraser desired me and Mary Cameron to go out. It ,was about eight o'clock ; it was, not quite dark. I. will not • swear that it was not nearer ten than nine o'clock. We met; Jessy Salter on the-Sunday. She made an observation to me ' , about their being all sent out. Mr. Bagley has light • -hair; it .is sandy; it is not so yea as his whiskers, the two last children have red hair. I do not recollect calling' Ulu Isabella Miss Bagley. I 'do not recollect sayiog it in; ' • .. the presence of Ann Kenrew. r never said that Mrs. Fraser • . must take care of w h a t s h e d id , as Mr. Fraser was-not - there sow to have any more children fathered upon m - I might have made a foolish rem ar k w i t h regard o Bagley's so' often visiting Mrs. Fraser alone. • • John Carlisle examined—l arn'a phys ician. became acquainted with Mr. and Mrs. F raser at MuniCh. , Mr. Fraser • Used to go out at.night. I heard M rs . Fraser complain of it. •,. I saw them when I returned to this country. I went to them :to dine two or three times. I met Mr. Bagley once. About May,. 1842, I saw Mr. Fraser at Hampton Court,. with some • 101eSihis wife was not one of them. I called at Mr. Bag '•••la chambers to inquire about Mr. Fraser. ; In con sequence Y j what Mr. Bagley told me, I went to Mm. Fraser a. - It . • 'was 'after, her ,continement. ie inquired about her husband ; told her the last time I saw- him was at Hampton Court, with some ladies. I did not visit he! . in a professional capacity. • John Bieker.Caartee.n, a hamster, examined—l linow M.r. Bagley. ,Voccupy a part-of, h'isichambers. I . recollect a dinner party at his chambers in 1840. I was one .of the 'party., Mr. Fraser, Mrs: Fraser, Mill a youllg, we e re there.' I did not k now - Mrs. Fraser befdie. that time. Iv y remained till - eleven. A Mr. Fitz awes came in to tea. e ,aaw the ladies into a coach. This was ~before Christmas, ' • 1840. I never saw Mrs. Fraser at those chamber s afterivards. t`• - I recollect that the lock of one of the doors *its out of order. .111842. While in that state a person might have come ill.- e Inner door was in consequence kept locked, hJr..Fraser's chambers were on the grOund-floor. To go to Mr. Bagley's *person must pass Mr. Fraser's chambers. VELE SUN, I,oisrDol44 Pritit9tsDAY EgitENIN'G, FEBRUARY 22, Cross-examined by Mr. THESIGER—I was a good deal in my chambers. I used notle be There in'the evening. Mr. Bagley had the use of my room when I was absent. I did not see any other ladies at Mr. Bagley's. Mrs. Captain Rattray examined—l am sister of Mrs. Fraser. I saw Mr., and Mrs. Fraser in December, 1841, in Melcombe-place. I was there fifteen days.- Mr, Fraser slept out several nights during that time. 'When he came home it - used to be very late: On one occasion I was going to pay some visits, and Mrs, Fraser was about to accompany me. On d ying that Mr. Fraser was 'to accompany theta , she said It was the first time they, had walkednut fdr 'Many months. Mr. Fraser laughed at this. I said it was no laughing matter, and trold him that Mrs. Fraser charged him with living with- a person named Arnold. He denied that it was the fact, and said it was the old story again. He desired me to try and make Mrs. Fraser get rid of her jealousy. He said that he had desired Mr. Bagley to persuade her to get rid of herjealousv. - He took Mr. Bagley into her room for this purpose. Before that I told him it, was exceedingly improper, and that he was not justified in taking him into Mrs. Fraser's bed-room. He said he was a very intimate friend of his, and had brought up his family from Broadstairs. I said he would not allow any unmarried man to bring his wife from Broadstairs, unless he had some motive in it, and that it seemed as if he wished to get rid of his wife and family altogether: He said he had a brief and could not give it up. I said that Mr. Broughton as a married man would be a more proper person to get to bring his family to him. _ Mrs. Ash, examined by Mr. CJIAMBERS—I live in Milton street, Dorset-square. My husband is a Major in India. I have known Mrs. Fraser since 1840. I was in Brighton in the summer of 1842. Mrs. Fraser was there at the same. I saw her daily. Mrs. Fraser came up to town on Monday. She returned on the - next Sunday, about ten o'clock. She had a sprained ankle at the time, which kept her at home for several days. We were very intimate. I saw Mr. Bagley at Mrs. Fraser's once :after we returned from Brighton. I saw Mr. Fraser at his own house only once. Mr. Bagley went away early on the evening I saw him. I saw him on the 18th of August after. and he came from Ramsgate. I understood Lady Evans accompanied her. She remained with me a few days. She then went to Mr. Broughton's. She also went to Mr. White's. She appeared very much dis tressed. She was careless in her dress. She appeared to be a very good wife. On one occasion she showed me an old shirt. It was marked "W. F." Cross-examined by Mr. HUMPHREY—I understood the shirt was Mr. Fraser's : I saw the letters as she was putting them into a basket. Miss Margaret Ferran examined—l keep a boarding house in Dorset-square. I know Mrs. Fraser. I recollect her coming to my house in the year 1842, from Brighton. Sho came on Monday the 15th of August, about 5 o'clock. She-remained at our house till Saturday. She slept every night at the house, while she was there. She fell down stairs and sprained her ankle while there. Mr. Bagley • came to the house once. There was another lady there whom he used to visit. Miss Emily Ferran examined by Mr. Km-vs—l was with Mrs. Fraser as governess. I was with her at Brighton. I saw Mr. Bagley there. He did not spend any Sunday with - Mrs. Fraser. I never saw any improper familiarity between them. ' Cross-examined. by- Mr. THESIGER-Mr. Shaw spoke to me about what occurred at Broadstairs. Mrs. Fraser did also. When there we used to be all constantly together. I do not recollect them walking out together. Lady Elizabeth Doyle was next called, and examined by Mr. KELLY—I am the widow of Sir A. Doyle, and sister of Mrs. Fraser. She appeared to be very proud of her husband, and attached to him. She was was a very fond mother. She was not at all particular as to her dress. Mr. Fraser was a fine man. Cross-examined by Mr. TrrEsosairt—l do not consider my sister to be of a very placid temper. I believe Mr. Fraser has a good temper. I saw my sister about a week ago. I asked her to tea. I got a subpoena to come here. George Dyke—l was formerly clerk to Mr. Fraser. I went into his employ in January, 1840. Mr. Fraser and Mr. Bagley were very much together, and seemed to be very intimate. I recollect a female of the name of Sim mons coming there about nine months after , I came. She came several times. She used sometimes to remain as late as ten o'clock. Another female named Arnold used to conic there. I think it was in October, 1840. She used to come at various times, and used to remain, sometimes a few minutes, sometimes an hour or two. I often left her behind me at the chambers. The two females sometimes came together. They used sometimes to meet there without coming together. They had a quarrel at onetime. Mr. Fraser was there and I left the room. The father anfl two brothers of Miss Arnold often came with her. They used to dine with Mr. Fraser. They used to go to the theatres. I got tickets for them. They used to come back to the chambers and have refreshments. I used to get three and four tickets at a time. I got the re freshments at Wood's Hotel. Miss 'Arnold used to visit till the spring of 1841. After that time I used to take letters to the post-office, addressed to her in Exeter and Southampton: I went to pay money to a dress-maker; living in Charlotte street, Fitzroy-square. It was a cheque, which was crossed, and the dress-maker refused to take it. She sent messengers to Mr. 'Fraser after that. Mr. Fraser sent me to a shop in Ludgate-hill for some silk ; I bought it, and it remained for some days at the chambers. I was then directed to take it back to Ludgate-hill, and wait till Mr. Fraser came to me. He came in some time, accompanied by Miss Arnold. They took the roll of silk from me, and went into the shop. I saw Mrs. Fraser at the chambers two or three times. Mr. Fraser desired me tell Mrs. Fraser he was not there, or was busy whenever she called. On one occasion she sent for Mr. Bagley. The witness was cross-examined by Mr. HITXPIIIEY much length about the number of times that Miss Arnold and Miss Simmons came to him. The letters for Miss Arnold were directed to Miss Charlton's School, Exeter. One other female witness was called, after whose evidence, in which there was nothing very particular, the Court ad journed till to-morrow, when Mr. Thesiger will reply on behalf of the plaintiff. , SYMPATHY ros IRELAND.—We are glad to learn that the Liberals of Aberdeen have it in contemplation to get up a meeting to express sympathy for the wrongs of Ire land, and to condemn the course which the Government officials have pursued in the prosecution of O'Connell and his friends. To join in this demonstration it is not neces sary that we should either be Repealers or Roman Catho lics ; the just claims of a numerous portion of our fellow subjects to good and equal laws, and the necessity of keeping a strict guard over the portals of justice, should induce every right-thinking man to come forward, and ex press his opinion at this important juncture. Nor let it be thought that we have no.interest in the matter. Apart altogether from the ties that connect one part ,of the kingdoin with another, and which render it. impossible for one to escape participation to some extent in the suffer ings of the other, there is the immediate risk that, if Ire land be left unsupported on the present nccasion, the same wicked policy which has recently been pursued towards her, will be extended to the sister: island. It is the duty, therefore, of parties who seek the attainment of any public object—political, ecclesiastical, commercial, or financial —to stand up in defence of free discussion, rational progress, and a fair and impartial administration of the law of the land. Aberdeen, a few years ago g when an. attempt was to be made,. by the Carlton Club, to eject the Irish Liberal Members, from the House of Commons, by mere force of money, way among the first to contribute, and that pretty liberally too, to the Defence Fund : it is to be hoped that our citizens will not be less forward at this time:-.—Abercittn Herald. ' HYDROPATIIY 1141 FRANCI3.—Upon an application being made to the French Government for permission to open an hydropathic establishment in Paris, the Government referred the subject: to the French Academy, for their opi nion. The following are the conclusions to which the Academy- arrived after mature consideration—l. That hydro pathy is k - dangerous therapeutical method which , does not rest vn facts ; 2, that its theory is chimerical ; 3, that it is' in disaccord with our chemical and pathological doctrines; 4, that the Academy cannot in any way approve of it ; 5, that the use of cold water has been long in thedoniain of medicine and submitted to rules. ExritkonniNAns OCCURRENCE.—It will be recol lected that a soldier of the name of Fossey, belonging to the depot of the 48th Regiment; now in garrison in this island, was, on the 20th of January, tried and convicted before the Royal Court, for having committed a violent assault on the highway, on the evening of the Ist of that month, andwas thereupon sentenced to an imprisonment of two months. It appears that his Excellency, the Lieutenant-Governor, diSapproying of this sentence, represented the matter to the Secretary ofState for the Home Department, and in conse quence ef .sttelf . representation a .free pardon was obtained from the Queen. The pardon, under her Majesty's sign manual,. addressed to the Lieutenant-Governor, and the keeper of the gaol, was, it is understood, received in Guernsey this morning, and in consequence . his Excellency, in full uniform, accempanied by Major 1 4 4‘Cleverty,. commanding the 48th depot, Major Bainbrigge, Fort - Major, and Mr. W. Brown, the Government Secretary, presented himself at the gaol, at noon (at a. moment, be it observed, when it was well knoWn that all the civil authorities were attending the funeral of a deceased magistrate), with the Queen's pardon in . his hand; - and demanded the immediate liberation: of Fosse". Mr, Barbet, the gaoler, unaccustomed to documents of this'natire, said that he sonld not liberate the man with-. • out the order of the Court by Whom he bad. been com mitted. The General hereupon told Mr; 'Barbet at his peril to- refuse instant obedience, and desired him to give him the keys • of the prison, telling Mr. Barbet•that he ought. to know that the Queen's order was paramount to any local authority. Mr. Barbet, - however, still hesitated, and - sent out to find some of the officers of the court for their advice; upon which, his . Excellency ordered Major Bainbrigge to go to Fort George and bring. down the troops to force the gaol? Major Bambrigga. im mediately. departed upon his mission, when Mr. Barbet, considering that he was not required to make any further difficulties in ,the face of the threatened exercise of force, delivered Tosie7 to the Lieutenant-Governor, who handed, him.over to Major M'Cleverty, his commanding officer, and the whole party then left the gaol, and the advance of the - troops • was 'countermanded, FosSey, before quitting, • ad pitted iii the hearing of several persons, that he was guilty. of the crime for which he had been tried and_imPrieoned.— Gueiniey Slat, Feb. 15. Coma - 170 N OF Tunxism- WIVES.—The gereskier ,has generally chosen and bought.Cireassians, and his harem is quite eastern and unreformed •by European 'fashions, Four: of his wives were very beautiful, and all were good looking ;. their toilets were all in the same style, only va ried in colours. Some had caftans of wadded silk, with large heavy gold leaves. One blue. eyed girl, who looked • languid and suffering, remained; in a corner alone, and could not .1.)4.. persuaded to mix Vali the others. Whether this was ill-temper or illness I could not discover. She was the List . purchase, and, therefore, the favourite. She had been lately confined, and nursed her child; but refused Actshow it.' • Dv° others were enceinte, and, between the atanding:and the fasting,-were pale as death, and almoit fainted. Nothing can be • harder than the situation of these unf9rtgnato women,..never permitted to stir out ; for I discovered they had only been allowed to breathe the. :open air, twice in the year. Tile Seraakier told me he once took them to the Sweet Waters of Asia, and was andised at my expressive look -of horror at such confinement I could not help pitying their fate, all living together, quar relling and jangling for the Pacha's favour, " a qui it leterait le mouehoir." I did not count the children,. but I think 'there were not - less than . twelve. One beautiful little girl, .with large, bright blue eyes, like her fair mother, whose robe she held fast, was dressed :in a pink and green vest with a jacket lined with sable. With . this exception they had all dark eves and eyebrocis; most' of 'them • had . bad teeth, end nothing,is more disgusting "than their 'bare- feet, the nails being; like their fingers, deeply dyed with henna.—Maechio niis of Londonderry's Narrative. • • I,4 g!iln ew g .s t h o o p re r ha tes:tr i a l t a N d l r e e e 7. -- , - Sfionettx- fß.LNlsveere- informed shortly before M ed to r a . IWlosilve t e h le e r c ct rp he se e clergyman gy a _the wife of a mariner named Webb, to be taken into church when • Dwihsesi:nbtroeru;ghatndforth- eintheurmesbalonno3tioenhdom, n beca to u d g i e sp s e h n e se w .rith a :the service - which the minister with char g acteristic charity 1 withheld, had the corpse taken home, and it has since been 63nveyed. to Rottingdean for interment. This week, too, at lab Shoreham (same: minister),_ the- church service was denied to the remains of Joseph Tilstone. This much-- boasted charitable Church is persecuting them to the very 'est.—Brighton Guardian. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. UNIO.IV-HALL. Yesterday Daniel Carroll, a lad of 18 years of age, was brought before Mr. Cottingham, charged with wounding James Farrrer, a youth of the same age, during a quarrel in a public-house. The complainant stated that on Monday night he went into the Alfred's Head, where he met the prisoner, whom he had previously known, and that they had some .high words respecting a female with whom they were both acquainted. In the course of the altercation he (complainant) threatened to strike the prisoner, who immediately attacked him, and stabbed him with a penknife in the cheek, and followed up the blow by thrusting the point of the knife into his groin, and inflicting a dangerous wound, and then he ran out of the house. The prisoner, in his defence, admitted that he had quarrelled with the complainant respecting a female, and that during the altercation he was paring his finger-nails with a pen knife ; that the complainant struck him a severe blow in the face; which made his ' nose bleed, and that in the struggle that subsequently took place between them, by an uninten tional accident, he wounded his assailant with the point of the knife. Two witnesses were examined in support of this defence, after hearing whom, Mr. CorromnAm having made some strong observations on the frequency of the use of the knife in qaarrels, which he characterised as an un-English and ferocious way of attack ing an assailant, sentenced the prisoner to pay a tine of 5/., and in default, committed him for two months to the House of Correction. Frederick Sparks was charged with stealing five pieces of Orleans cloth and a piece 'ef Coburg cloth, from the shop of Messrs. Gordon and Walker, in the Blaekfriars-road ; and also with committing a violent assault on one of the shopmen. John Leach, the shopman, whose head and face exhibited severe marks of violence, stated that the prisoner, iu the most impudent manner, walked into the warehouse that morning, while he was engaged, and taking up the above articles ran out with them. Witness, on seeing the act, ran after the prisoner, who dropped the articles, and turning on his pursuer, attacked and beat him in a most severe way, and would have escaped had not a policeman come up, who, after a struggle with the prisoner, secured and took him into custody.—He was committed. William Lowden and Robert Ryder, two Deptford omnibus drivers, were charged with racing against each other on the road to town, in the course of which a woman bad a narrow escape of being run over. The offence having been clearly established against the de fendants, who, it appeared drove rival omnibuses, and had, according to the testimony of one of the defendant's own wit nesses (a conductor), been racing against each other for the last two months, Mr. COI/INGHAM said that it was just such a case as he would be justified in exercising the powers the late Act had given him, and, instead of inflicting penalties, which he was aware could be easily paid, at once committing the defend- Ants to prison. The Magistrate added, that the safety of the public demanded that he should exercise the powers on the prevent occasion, and he should therefore commit defend ants to the House of Correction for a month each. GREENWICH. Yesterday police-constable Edward Vincent, 131 R, applied to Mr. Jeremy, at the opening of the Court, to ask the Ma gistrate's advice as to what course he should pursue under the following circumstances : He said the woman Dickenson had been in his custody from the day after the murder until she was committed under the Coroner's warrant to Newgate, on Monday evening last, when she was accompanied by her husband and two of the parish officers of St. Paul, Deptford. After taking a heartrending farewell of his wife, they again entered the coach which had brought them to town, and proceeded over Blackfriars bridge, on their return, when Mr. Dickenson said, "If he had known it had come to this, he would have stopped it ; he would have put an end to hie misery, and that he had something that would soon do it." Upon this. statement witness remarked that he must search him, when the wretched man drew a paper from his pocket, upon which was written—" My dear Sarah, I would sooner suffer death rather than you should go to Newgate. I have got a razor with me, which I will give to you, or I will finish what you have left undone." They , proceeded on until passing the Brighton railway, in the Kent-road, when it was remarked what a change would be effected in that spot in twenty years. Dickenson answered that he should not live to see any changes of the sort. They arrived about eleven o'clock at the house where the frightful affair had taken place, Mid on entering the room he demanded him to give up a razor which he suspected he had about him. Dickenson said he had left it at George's, meaning his brother. He then said he would search him, upon which Dickenson drew the razor from his pocket, saying, " Oh, what have I done in giving you that paper.. I wish you would return or destroy it, as , it will be evidence against my wife." Witness said no it will not, but most likely he the cause of saving your own life. He pulled the razor out •of - his pocket with the utmost re luctance, saying that his life had heen'saved fOr that night. He then left him somewhat compc44. Mr. JERE= said the contents of the paperwere more a threat to his wife than himself,' and •Airetiteel 'the offi cer to go immediately to Newgate, 'and - inform, the Governor of the circumstances, so that directioni migh t be given to the turnkeys that - Dickey's= - shciuld not ad mitted into the prese4nce of ,his wife except id - the presence of two turnkeys, .16- -(rinii Whit - had transpired " - he appre hended that violence xnight.beLittenwt_ed. -- • '-riIfAIfiffERSIIPIE : Yesterday a _Lung ingn named ChArteiitot4/‘iliarfieiis ma k er , res idffi g near . — terrace, ii4Fgth-teriiice, appeared bef re Mr. Paynter, the sitting Magistrate, on summons, chargihg him with having on the 13th instant iinpioperli &visa gun loaded with ball, in a public thoroughfare, whereby he had endangered the life of a lady named Booth. The defendant pleaded guilty to firing the gun, but denied that he was aware that he had done injury to any person. Mrs. Booth, who was accompanied by the Rev. Mr. Parrin, one of the curates of Hammersmith, stated that she was the wife of Major Booth, and resided at No. 20, St. Peter's square, Hammersmith. On the day in question she was standing about twelve o'clock in the back drawing-rooin, when she felt herself struck by something, but she could not at the time tell what. Presently, however, she discovered that one of the panes of glass in the window had been per forabed by some round substance, and she afterwards found a musket-ball in the room, which she had no doubt was the missile that struck her. She had no idea that the defendant had fired the gun intentionally to do her harm. Robert Stone, a boy living in British Sehool-house-lane, Chiswick, which is at the back of the houses in St. Peter's square, deposed to seeing the defendant fire the gun twice in the lane. • He fired it at a piece of paper stuck against a tree as a target, and the first time loaded the gan with shot, -but the second time put in a ball. Police-constable Earthy, T 103, deposed, that on the list witness pointing out to him the direction in which the de fendant fired the gun, he found it was directed towards the residence of Major Booth. He had also examined the win dow, and had found that the frame was also shattered by the ball. Mr. PAYNTER said this was a case in which he felt the highest penalty the law allowed ought to be inflicted. Mrs. Booth requested that the defendant might not be se verely punished, as she was convinced his conduct was quite unintentional. Mr. PATNTEE consented, limier those circumstances, to mitigate the fine to 20s. and costs, or twenty-one days' im prisonment.. The defendant immediately paid the fine, and was dis charged. of the Court, that he and others of the petitioners waited upon the Commissioner of the City Police, ac cording to the recommendation of Alderman Wilson, and was informed by Mr. Harvey that there was no use in taking up women of the town, for the magistrates dis missed thorn without inflicting any punishment. The policeman had told the petitioners the same thing. Alderman COPELAND—A more gratuitous piece of in formation I never heard of, than, that upon the part of the Commissioner. Alderman FAREBROTNER said it was most ridiculous in the Commissioner to make such a statement. If the Commissioner or his men could not establish a ease against 'the unfortunate women whom they might think proper to take into custody, why should not the magis trate*lismiss them ?—(Hear, hear.) These poor crea tures must be somewhere ; in Regent-street they were infinitely more numerous than they were in St. Paul's c hu r ch-yard ; and why, if acts of disorder were not proved against them, should they be punished with im prisonment, or with the bad treatment which they often suffered, without being brought before magistrates at a ll ? He, for one, would not imprison a wretched female merely because she was brought before him by a policeman; and he cared nothing for the opinion of the Commissioner on the question. Alderman HUNPUERY regretted to see that a most unkind feeling existed towards the Commissioner, who had merely said to the petitioners that his men took the women before the magistrates,' and that the magistrates discharged them. Now, what did' the magistrates do with the women? Did they send" them to Bridewell? Alderman COPELAND.—Yes, when they have com mitted any offence or disorder. Let the police do their duty. Alderman HUMPHERY said the police did their duty, and so also did the magistrates. The Commissioner had, he would contend, been most unfairly treated by such a course of condemnation. He ought to be heard upon the subject. Alderman BROWN said the petitioners complained of what they considered to be a great nuisanee, and upon stating the nature of it to the Commissioner, and asking Tor hiii interposition, what did he say?—That there was no use in it, for the magistrates dismissed the accused. A more gross libel could not be uttered against that Court, and he was astonished to find a member of that Court stand up as the apologist of him who had uttered it. The Commissioner might and ought to have said, Gentlemen, we cannot commit wo men o f the town for walking the streets. The streets are open to them as they are to us; but I must do the magistrates the justice to say that wheel any act of disorder is committed by these women they uniformly carry the law into effect. Alderman WOOD said the police not only brought women - of the town, but reputed thieves, before the ma gistrates, but evidence was necessary introductory to punishment. Indeed, it was frequently the case that the magistrates were obliged to reprove the police for ap prehending persons without having the slightest ground for taking them into custody. - Sir-PETER. LAURIE declared that he had often dis ' charged unfortunate women against what appeared to him to be the reasoning of the police, that if a female, after having walked down Fleet-street, dared to walk back again, she must be walked off to a prison.—(Hear.) The RECORDER read the section of the City Police Act, to show that it was not exactly according to the statute to take into custody and imprison unfortunate women who walked the streets without committing any offence. The petition was then rejected. A petition was presented praying for the removal of the ancient cart-stand from Dowgate-hill. Alderman LUCAS opposed the removal. He had him self known the stand to be on Dowgate-hill upwards of seventy years, and he thought that people ought to put up with a little inconvenience for - a large benefit ; but really some persons wished to have'the most public parts of the City like Berkeley-square or Grosvenor-square. Now, he liked to see carts and waggons crowding after each other , through the thoroughfares. It showed that money was stirring as it used to be of old. Alderman JOIN JOHNSON moved that the petition be referred to a committee, which was agreed to. The Court then proceeded with closed doors to con sider the subject of the appointment of a Deputy -Gover nor of her Majesty's gaol of Newgate. LLOYD'S SHIPPING. LOSS OF THE MARGARET AND BARONET. The following has been received at Lloyd's from the Fo reign -office, dated Feb. 17, 1844 : " Sir—l am directedby the Earl of Aberdeen to transmit to you, for the information of the Chairman and Committee for managing the affairs at Lloyd's, a copy of a dispatch from her Majesty's Consul-General in Tunis, rep orting _ the wrecks of the British brig Margaret, near Cape Farina, and of the brig Baronet, on the Island of Galite--&c. &c. (Signed) " CANNING. " To Wm. Dobson, Esq., Lloyd's." "Tunis, Jan. 14, 1844. " Sir—lt is with regret that I have to report for your in formation that the brig Margaret, Richard Lander, master, on her voyage from Tunis to Hull, was wrecked on the sth instant, near Cape Farina, to the westward of Cape Carthage, in a heavy gale of wind. " The brig Baronet,Wm. Wylie, master, on her voyage from Smyrna to Liverpool, was also wrecked on the 9th instant, on the Island of Galita. "I am happy, however, to say that no loss of life has oc curred, and I have availed myself of the first opportunity to forward part of their crews to ➢lalta, and shall use every ex ertion for the recovery of stores, &0., belonging to the above named vessels.—l have, &c., (Signed) " THOMAS READE." Our readers are already aware of the ukase which the Emperor.of Russia has issued, requiring 36,000 Jewish fami lies to remove to a distance from that part of his territories which they have occupied, we suppose, from time immemo rial. The despotic command is in itself so cruel that it can hardly be looked on as aggravated in its horrors by the circumstance that the expatriation must procceed amidst the snowy rigour of winter. Our countrymen, claiming as'they do the credit of national generosity, surely should not stand aloof when this vast act of barbarism is being committed againet a defenceless people. The churches of the United Kingdotie have lately shown a becoming zeal for the spiritual welfare of this ancient and benighted race. 'We trust the sa me 'love which dictates these efforts will beget 'an imme commoofnagrieoriingdh o place cp humanity, ithis p and diets sympathy with them in respect to their outward-wants. on peo i p he still ec oliarle,once . held in the Divine favour, and whi c h (if prophecy is b On olier th ground e read aright)they are again to hold, we are bold to assert, that the Christian population of England are imperatively Called upon to interfere in their behale Without presuming to limit or prescribe the extent and mode of the mediatimetliat may be attempted, we respectfully suggest that the inhabitants of Liverpool should hold a public meeting, and memorialise the Government to remonstrate with the Russian auto crat. A vote of sympathy, were no more carried at the meeting, would be gratifying to the eufferers, so 'long de spised and trampled upou in all Europe, and would tend to support them in this day of their calamity. We hope the town of Liverpool will show an example that will be followed throughout the country. " Blessed is he who blesseth thee." —Liverpool Courier. , HABITS OF THE ,DUTCH Botßs.—Their occtipa tions lead them to rise earl and before six the "vroiv" or gude woman of the house has her shining brass kettle of co ff ee e n the equally resplendent brazier of charcoal which supports it, and sitting down by it, proceeds to dispense its contents to all comers. At eight th e „row,. re spectfully approaching her husband, who has returned front hi s work, notifies that breakfast is on table. Of this meal she herself seldom partakes, at least not' in conappny with the other members of the family ; re manning at a side table she prepares the tea and coffee,_ which a female servant, bands to the rest of the party, while she herself rises and presents a cup to her husband. The breakfast table is well covered with eggs, ham, biltongue or cured venison, cold meats, fresh butter, and excellent home made brown bread ; one of the children is called upon by the father to say grace, unless a very aged person, as a grand father or ,grandmother, be present, in which case they ask the blessing. Breakfast concluded, all depart to their re spective tasks, front which they return at-twelve to dinner ; this meal consists of substantial joints of fresh or corned mutton,: and frequently a couple of fowls, butter, cheese, and excellent, wholesome, unadulterated wine ; pastry- is often added , but all is put on the table at once. The dinner service, is invariably white ; and, as well as the table-cloth; is always most scrupulously clean. In large families, where the father has sons of such an age as to be able to superin tend the business of the farm, he usually indulges himself with a siesta, and contrives to be in or about the house about three o'clock, at which hour a servant hands round a tray, containing small cups of tea, with milk, frequently in a silver ewer, and two cut-glass jars, one filled with sweet meats and the other with water, in which stand-two or more very small silver forks, with which they help themselves to the confection, and replace them in the water. The labour 'of:the day.being over, about seven the family assemble , in the hall, and a glass of wine is handed to each ; few speak except the master of the house, and he is listened to with respect. A woman's voice is seldom heard, save in answer to a question ; at eight the " vrow" announces that supper is ready; this.meal much resembles the dinner in its compo nent parts; it is, perhaps, their principal meal; about nine a . small glass of spirits, which they - fern a " sopee," is bronght to each of the men, and the party separates for the night. The manners of these hospitable and simple people are in stinctively and innately polite ; with less action than the French, they display more warmth than the English, and never did any class of men make on my mind a more favourable impression than the Dutch Boers. of the Cape colony.— Baynes's Ramble in the East, 6-e. SHIP RUN DOWN.—FIVE LIVES LOST.—On 'Thurs day last,the barque St. Virginia, Captain Jansen, belonging to Bremen, ran down the French barque La Seine, Captain Grimard, a few leagues off the Start Point. The collision took place about half-past ton o'clock, when the night was excessively dark, and the wind blowing strongly from the Westward. A light was observed in the rigging of the 14 Seine for about an hour afterwards, when it suddenly dis appeared. No doubt is entertained but .that she went down at the time, being heavily laden with the machinery of a new steam-packet of 250 horse power. When the collision hap eged, five of the crew succeeded in getting on board the St s N'irginia, whereby their lives were saved; but unfortueatelY the ethers, five in number, perished with their vessel. The ' names of the men saved are Le Roy, second master; Jean Regard, , mate ; Francis Barrau, seaman . ; Joseph Alahomet, a man of colour, cook; and Edward Nanny, cabin boy. The La Seine was 160 tons register, and at the time of the fatal catastrophe was on her voyage from, Havre-de-Grace for Bordeaux; between which' ports she was a . .regular trader. She was partially. insured. The machinery was, we under stand, uninsured. The St. Virginia, which ran her down, put into Plymouth next day (Friday) with loss of jibboom and cutwater carried awity. She is receiving the necessary repairs, and when completed, will proeeed for St. Übee, her destined port. It is reported that the fatal collision was purely accidental. - - - - - DARING RQDRERY.—Yesterday information was circulated' throughout the metropolitan and city police dis tricts of the following robbeiT i—Between seven and nine on the 'previous evening it was discovered that the house of Mr; Dean, No. Albemarle.:street, Piceadilly, had been yobbed of a dispatch box, covered with red leather, which'contained four 5/. Bank of England notes, a five guinea piece, a gold watch, makers' name " Dubois and Wheeler, Gray's 14- court," ten sovereigns, in a packet, which had been sealed up since the year 1828, which year, or the previous one, the gold was dated, and were all new coin, a silver breastplate, or gorget, of the, 67th Regiment, with the Royal arms milt, - a gold, chain and bracelet with a gold heart, a ditto set with green stones, two'hair ditto, a gold Geneva watch, makers' aamb " 'rekindle," with .hair chain and two-gold seals, and a number of other valuable articles of jewellery. The robbery can in no way be accounted for. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 21. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Mr. LOWTHER brought in the Leeds and Selby Railway Bill, which was read a first-time. Sir J. EASTHOPE brought up the Epsom and South Western Branch Railway Bill, which was read a first time. The Hartlepool Dock and Harbour Bill was read a second time. Mr. DUNCOMBE presented several petitions from Yorkshire and Durham in favour of agricultural pro tection. Mr. ORD presented a petition from the Free School Society of Newcastle-on-Tyne, against any increase in the mi litary eitablishments of the country. NORWICH RAILWAY. Mr.WODEHOUSE brought up the Report of the Committee on the Norwich_and London Railway. BIRKENHEAD IMPROVEMENT The Report on the Birkenhead Improvement Bill was brought up. NOTICES OF' MOTION.—COUNTY . CORO- NERS' BILL. . Mr. C. BERKELEY gave notice that, in Com mittee on the County Coroners' Bill, he should move to omit clause 20, granting to county coroners one shilling per mile as travelling expenses. SEPARATION OF MOTHER AND CHILD. Mr. FERRAND. gave notice that, in Committee . on the Poor4aw Bill, he should move the insertion of a clause, enacting that it - should not be lawful to separate children under seven years of age from their mothers, provided the mothers resided in the same workhouse with the children; and that mothers should at nil times have free access to their children in workhousei. • CASE OF MR. POWELL. Mr. CALEIiPOIVELL moved for the production of the correspondence and all documents issued by the Lord Chancellor of Ireland, in which the Lord Chancellor stated his reasons for the removal of Mr. Powell from the commission of the peace for the county of Limerick.—Agreed to. TURNPIKE TRUSTS. _ _ Lord EBRINGTON gave notice that, on the in troduction of' the Turnpike Trusts Bill; he should call the attention of the House to ,the hardships in flicted upon the holders of toll deeds, by the exemption from toll of carriages purporting to carry letters, and that, lie should intrutlucc a clause for the purpose of remedying that grievance. PENSIONS. Mr, WILLIAMS moved an address to her Ma jesty, that she will be graciously pleased to give di , . rections that an account be laid before this House of all salaries, pensions, profits, pay, fees; emoluments, grants, or allowance of public money, held and en oyed by all persons, between the sth day of - January, 1842, and the sth day of January, 1843, the total amount of which shall exceed one thousand pounds ; specifying with each name the total amount received by each individual, and distinguishing the various sources from whence the same are derived.--Agreed to. COUNTY CORONERS' On the Order Of the Day kir the second reading of the County Coroners' Bill being read, After a few words from Mr. thisul and Mr. PAILINGTON, Mr. WILLIAMS protested against the principles of this Bill. It was similar to the one which had been brought forward last year, and so properly altered in the other House. An attempt had been made to raise the mileage from ninepence to eighteen pence, but it was eventually settled at one shilling per mile. He thought the remuneration given to coroners was too great, for he knew one county in which thousands of pounds would be expended in the contest for the coronership. In its present state he should most decidedly vote against the second reading of this Bill. Mr. C. BERKELEY hoped the Hon. Gentleman would not divide the House upon the second reading of this Bill.—(Hear, hear.) He thought the present discussion ought to be confined to the Committee.— (Hear, hear.). There was but one clause in the Bill which related to the increase of mileage to coroners, and he (Mr. Berkeley) had given notice of his inten tion to move the omission of that clause. Captain PECHELL thought it would be much better to postpone the Bill to a future clay. Lord J. RUSSELL said that, considering the im portance of the adjourned debate, he thought the better course to pursue would be to postpone this Bill for the present. He could not see why the Hop; Gentleman should object to that course. Mr. PAKINGTON could assure the Noble Lord that he had no wish to throw any impediment in the way of the important debate to which the No ble Lord had alluded ' • but he had expected when he moved the second reading of this Bill, that there would be no opposition to this stage of the Bill. Mr. WAKLEY thought the Hon. Gentlemen who had opposed this Bill had not read it—(Hear, hear) —but he supposed that they Wert priVileged in that respect. The present Bill was merely for the pur pose of reducing the expense of electing coroners. Everybody knew that the present mode of electing coroners was a disgrace to the kingdom. The poll, when once opened, was obliged to be kept open for ten days, and it would be illegal to close it before that time. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Wednesday, the 6th of March. HORSE-RACING PENALTIES SUSPENSION BILL. Mr. IIoRSMAN asked the Hon. and Learned Member for Bute if the Bill relating to - the penalties on horse-racing was of such a pressing nature as to interpose 'before the Order of the Day for the ad journed debate. This was the second time it had done so.. - • . . Mr. J. S, WORTLEY said the Bill was of a very pressing nature as some of the actions were being, commenced at the assizes. He should, therefore, move that the Sp.aker do leave the Chair. After a few Words from Mr. CHRISTIE, ' Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that if the Hon. Gen tleman was to make the Bill- at once what it ought really-to be —A private and personal Act to exempt certain Noble L - ords and Gentlemen from cer tain penalties - to.. which they had subjected themselves in consequence oft their ignorance of the law, he would find no difficUlty in getting it passed. His own opini3n was, that they were fairly , entitled to this indemnity, and there were many instances upon record where indemnity in similar cases was granted. - • Mr. HORSMAN said if the Bill were really pro's ing, then he was sure there were many Members who would support the Hon. and Learned Member; if it were - not - pressirigi - surely - it - was a fit subject-for con sideration whether the delay now sought should' nOt be conceded. • ' Mr; CHRISTIE said, it might conduce to the convenience of the House, if ho stated that the decla rations in these actions were only delivered two or three days ago, and that they would not come on for trial at the Suriey Assizes ; therefore, there was no necessity fOr thus pressing on the Bill. If the Hon. and Learned Gentleman would postpone the Bill for this evening, every facility would be given- to him hereafter. Mr.WORTLEY said he was sorry he could not ac cede to the wish of the lion. Gentleman. Proceedings were at present going : On in these actions as rapidly as possible for the purpose of accumulating costs, and he knew that two of them Were ready for trial one at the coming Surrey, the other at the York Under theSe circumstances, and recollecting the, difficulty -there might be in hereafter bringing this matter before the - House, with the mass •of other subjects coming before it, he did. trust that no further delay would be insisted on. --Mr"--gIiRESTIE-must say-then,-as no delay would be conceded, :that he should , proceed to move - the in struction of which he had given netice.=--(Cries of "):Spoke;:3l3oke," Chair, chair.") The SPEAKER: declaretl that the Hon. Gentle man; hai;ing_preViOnsly addressed the House on this subject, ...had - forfeited Ais right to . move his in structiOn.,--(frear; and a laugh.) • . Mr.'lllll‘lE, said :the Bill rio*'. before the. House had , been :altered aceording to the propositions made, the othettight„. from his side of the ;Ho u se. It was now, in fact, a Bill simply to Stay proceedings. The promoters of the Bill having- fairly met them, and carriedtheir : wishes .into effect, he for one:could be ' no party to the present opposition.---(Cheers.) Mt, I3RIGHT said, as his Hon.. Friend (Mr. Christie) • 'was debarred. moving hiS: instruction, he • should take upon 'himself "to . do .so. :He begged to move that it bean instruction to the Committee tp extend the provisions of the Bill to all: proceedings of Common infOrthere tinder' the authority of any penal • Mi. CHRISTIE would Second the instruction he could, not propose l- and•he. did so.bicause he thought the measure as now before the House Was to throw a protection round a few individuals, which, if desirable at all, ought to be extended to, every class. He could not; nor would not, 'recognise any tion between.,small bets Made by ,persons in an humble station of life, and larger ones by the aris tocracy and richer classes, neither could he distinguish the .difference between horse-racing, and any ot her species of gaming. Re was so convinced in his opi nions upon this subject, that he should offer , the strongest OjorSgition to this`Bill: The most eminent jtidge§ decided,' that under the penal 'statue - of Queen,. Anne the sport of horse-racing was included, • and Baron Rolfe had pronounced a similar decision in the Court of Exchequer no later than the term before 'last. It had been stated by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who introduced this Bill that the Noble Lord the liteinher for Lynn (Lord George ,Bentinck) was .one of, the parties intended -bef relieved by the Bill. In making that stater pt, ..he ! seta that the Nobl e L or d was entirely ignorant of the law "Agair4„ N lAeli .he had offended. No such statement however had been made by the Noble Lord himself. If the No. COURT OF ALDERMEN. On Tuesday a Court was held for the dispatch of business. Sheriff MUSGROVE reported.to the Court that there were at present sapersons in Newgate undergoing sentence of imprisonment, varying from three months to two years, and that there were now in the prison some cases of in sanity. The subject of sentencing convicts to confine ment in Newgate—a system wholly at variance with the discipline so necessary to be observed in a gaol set apart 'for untried persons alone—had been more than once before introduced to the Court, but as the evil was a growing one, he considered it to be his duty to repeat the fact.—(Hear, hear.) The REMEMBRANCER stated that the subject was in - the progress of inquiry by the proper authorities. • The Report of the Police Committee upon the petition of W. L. Brake, late one of the inspectors of the City police, praying that the petitioner should be allowed the expenses incurred by him in an action, of trover brought against him, as such inspector, for the recovery of pro perty detained by him, was brought forward. It stated that the •Committee were of opinion that the prayer of the petition ought not to be compliedwith. It appeared from what was stated in the Court, that the late inspector had acted in the NI hole bn:,iness under the direction ofthe-Commissioner of the City.l'olice, and had by that officer's advice employed an attorney to de fend the action, instead of applying tb the Court of Al dermen to authorise the City Solicitor to Undertake the matter, and that the result of the action was a verdict against. Brake, by which that individual was put to the expense of 1401. or 1501. Alderman BROWN said it was really very hard upon the poor man, that he should be compelled to pay such a penalty for doing what he considered . to he an act of duty, under the sanction of the City Commissioner.. He wished the Report to be sent back to the Committee, in order that it might be ascertained whether some means of relieving the petitioner from such unjust expense could not Le adopted. Alderman WILSON said, the Committee felt the case to be a hard one, but they considered that,. upon principle, they could not recommend the Court to pay the expense incurred 'in an action defended by a strange solicitor. Brake had, it appeared, acted under a rule which had not been made legal, and the City Solicitor, who, if any one ought to have been employed was the person, was not consulted upon the propriety of the course of the proceedings adopted. Alderman FAREBROTHER said there was no excuse for sending back the Report. The petitioner had im properly detained the goods of the plaintiff in the action, and the Commissioner had sent his inspector to his own solicitor to defend the action, and, .now' that the verdict was against the inspector, off the Commissioner sent his inspector for the money to pay his solicitor's bill.— (Laughter.) The Court could never think of sanction ing such a mode of disposing of the City funds. .Sir PETER' LAURIE—The subject has been• already twice before, in other shapes, before the Committee, and it was quite clear that the petitioner had no claim at all, Alderman Wool) said the Committee Could•not help -the conclusion they had come to. At the same time, Brake had no alternative, except an exceedingly dis-. agreeable one. The Man was obliged to obey the Com missioner, in peril of losing his place, and the conse quence of his obedience was the action at law. The de fendant was but an half.pay officer, and had a family to support, and it was a great severity upon him that he should be obliged to pay 1401., or 1501., for having acted in strict conformity with the direction of his superior. The amendment, to send back the Report for reconsi deration was then lost, 7 hands having- been held up for and '8 against it. THE MAGISTATES OF TILE CITY.AND TUE CITY. POLICE COMMISSIONER. Alderman WiLsom presented a petition from the in habitants of the ward of Castle Baynard, complaining that :the neighbourhood of St. Paul's Churchyard was greatly disturbed and disgusted by the conduct of women of the town at night, and praying that the Court would take sonic means of abating so serious a nuisance. Ile had, upon the representation of the circumstances to advised the petitioners to apply to the Commissionceof the City Police, who, however, had informed them that the magistrates would not assist his efforts to remove, 'the women bf the town from. the place described as being subject to the nuisance. The Alderman moved that the petition be -referred to•the Police Committee. Mr. KEATING (of St. Paul's Church-yard), one of the petitioners, said, in answer to questions put by members 1844-, ble Lord were to say so, of course it was needless for him (Mr. Christie) to say that he should place im plicit confidence in the statement; but he must say that, under the circumstances, that which had been stated by the Hon. and Learne d Gentleman (Mr. Wort ley) ought to be confirmed by the Noble Lord himself. He asked the House to alter the Bill so, that the peo ple whom it was desired to benefit should be relieved by the just application of a general Bill ; and his great object in supporting the instruction was in the hope of superseding all other such proceedings as 'tight be instituted by common informers. Such informations for penalties ought, in his opinion, never to be allowed, except originated by the clerk of the peace or some other , public officer. He wanted a broad, general, just, and impartial ap plication of a wholesome principle, and that legisla tion in that House should not be for individuals but for the whole people. Mr. 'C. BERKELEY would yield to rio man in his desire to extend. every protection to the sports of the poor, as well as the rich.—(Hear, hear.) The Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Christie) - said the other evening, that if they passed ' this Bill, then they -would be legislating for a class only. He had offered to support the instruction of the Hon. Gentleman, provided he would consent to engraft on it a pledge to extend the provisions of the Bill to all statutes which relate to the sports of the people. He now, therefore, gave the Hon and Learned Gentle man (Mr. Wortley) notice that, on the bringing up of the report of the Bill, he should move a clause to that effect. Mr. BUTT said, that within the last few years, no less than five or six Bills of a similar character and principle to the one now before the House had been brought id and liaised without a dissentient voice from Hon. Members on either side. If the Hon. Member for Manchester and others had not opposed (as he had not) these measures at the time of their passing, it was rather remarkable they should now set their faces so strongly against an ex post facto , law which was quite as just , and necessary as any of those entertained by — the House on former occasions. He regretted exceedingly that he was. compelled to dissent from those for whom he felt...personally so much respect ; but still he thought some of his Hon. Friends were influenced more by prejudice than cool judgment. - After a few words from Mr. MANWAIRING and Colonel WYNDHAM, Captain PECHELL rose, amid much confusion and loud cries of " Divide, divide," and said, as well as we could catch his words, that he was sure there were many. Hon. Gentlemen near him who would wish to hear the Hon. and Learned Gentleman op posite, and the Noble Lord who had brought in the Bill express their opinion on the matter before the House proceeded to a division. Mr. WAKLEZ entirely disagreed froni the Hon. and Learned MeMber for Gateshead, who had com pletely mistaken the nature of the present Bill. Its• object was to frustrate the designs of certain parties, who were'sueing others for the very acts Which* they themselves had committed.—(Hear, hear.) • His principal object in rising was to call the attention of the Right Hon. Baronet to a practice that was preva lent in that town. He alluded to the practice adopted by the stipendiary magistrates with respect to little boys who were brought before them for playing at pitch and toss. It was only two days ago that three little boys, who believed that they had been enjoying a per fectly. .innocent amusement, were brought before the magistrates and were sent to the treadwheel at the House of Correction, for playing at pitch and toss. Now, he thought it would be well if the Right Hop. Baronet the Home Secretary were to intimate to the magistrates that he disapproved of the practice pursued by them, and order these little fellows to be at once liberated. After a few words, from Mr. M. Gnisox and Mr. J. S. WouTLpr, Mr. CHRISTIE withdrew his ameadment. Mr. HUME wished it to be distinctly understood . that though he had expressed his intention not to oppose the Bill, he should consider it a violation of the under standing which had been come to if the Bill which had. been sent to them from the Lords was proceeded with. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said it was clear to him that Hon. Gentlemen were labouring under a mis apprehension in regard to this second Bill. It was simply a Bill of Indemnity to protect from future conse quences the witnesses who gave evidence on tho subject of games and gaming before the Committee of the House of Lords. It enacted thai the certificate of the chairman of that Committee should protect a party giving evidence from the penalties he might otherwise be Subjected to for acts disclosed by him in that evidence —but , it interfered not with the operation of the law be yond those specific circumstances. The House then went into Committee, the preamble was postponed, and on Mr. Wortley moving the first clause, . Lord HOWICK said—Unfavourable as he was to betting in any shape, he still agreed in th e propriety of the Bill ; but he hoped the House, in passing it, would , effectually guard itself against doing anything that might encourage the habit of betting. The :measure before , the House went to stop not only the actions which were commenced, but also any that might he commenced. This he 'could not ap prove of. He looked upon the question of betting which now existed in this country, as most injurious to the character, morals, and happiness of the people. This Bill was brought forward nominally to shelter persona who had been taken by surprise ; but its practical ope ration would - extend further. Perfect warning had now been given to all parties, and the House ought therefore to take care that any gaming which hereafter took place, shOuld have no protection from it.- - (Hear, hear.) With this view he should move that after the word " thereat," in clause I, line 41, the following words should be added—" Such gaming or betting being alleged to have taken place previous to the 21st of January, 1844." The protection would thus extend to the time at which he (Lord Hbwick) was speaking, and no longer. Mr. WORTLEY quite concurred with the Noble Lord in his' desire 'to elevise means for limiting and re gulating betting in this country. He did not think that the Noble Lord was quite aware of the effect of- the clause 'as it at present stood. The Bill itself wits only to extend till the end of the session, or for three months; or some other limited time, to be filled up in Committee,, the object being to give time 'to the Com m itt ee to s i t an d report to the House, when the House, doubtless, would frame and pass a measure founded on its recommenda tions for checking and regulating betting and games. If the - House did not pass such a measure, the present Bill would drop at the period named for its duration, or at the end of the session, and all parties would be again liable to the penalties which the present law ordained; just as much as if the relief now *Posed, had never ,been heard of. Lord HOWICK said the upshot of this would be that if the Committee did not report for some time, or if a measure were brought into Parliament, as would probably be the case, towards the end of the session, then, on account of the lateness of the session, such measure or Bill would be withdrawn,,and : che , proposed 'enactment now:before the House would be renewed in a hurry, and then al-: lowed to settle down quietV as's, permanent law. Thus they would praetictilly protect the betting which they now wished; orllrofesSed to wish, to put down or re gu4 late. The Object' lie 'desired' to attain could only be of fected by the introduction of the words he had submit ted to the House. We thought it fair to state, that if his ainendinditas w rejected, - he) should regard the Bill as giving' facilities for betting, and in that view he should deem it his duty lei divide against it in its subsegnent stages.— (H e ar, hear.) bir JAMES GRAHAM said he agreed. in the general Principle of disfavour as to , betting laid down by the Noble Lord (11Owiek), and he was most anxious that the whole subjeM of gaming should' be referred to a Com mittee with the view of devising mean s t o pl ace c he c k s generally on betting. If the Noble Lord opposite was determined to persevere in his motion, he (Sir James Graham) Would feel bound to divid e the House against ' • ' Mr. I.I.UME approved of theproposition of the Noble Lord, becauie it would be likely to guard against future batiny. --- X due notice would be giien by this law, that every person who betted did so at their own peril ;- yet the Bight pon. Baronet the Secretary for the Home Department said he felt bound to vote against the mo tion of the. Noble Lord. Mr. DABthr said that at the, expiration of a certain .period—either three - inontlig, or twelve 'months, or two years, partiei could prosecute these actions again. :Lord EIfItINGTON thought, perhaps, it might be as well if an' immunity' Werogiietf for all past transec dims! and leeie the laW 'alone until the Committee 'should have inidlime to corisidee the matter more care fitlly. However, .he should. SuppOrt '.the motion of his Welt lion. ,Friend ; if thallousa,divided.: • Captain ROVS, said that, as. almost every one now made up _ a book on the Derby—(dear, and laughter)— the present measure was of some importance. lie thought fhe Hon; ltiembi for 'Gateshead had quite mis stated the cases ; ta which he hadalluded.. - He th o u g ht the best plan would be to let betting alone, and it would _cure itself. Whit *as to be deplored was; that bets came into a court , of law. He thought the Legislature should never have interfered with betting, and as for their injuring' the morals of the people, it was doWn right humbug. : Those races.he contended had a good influence on the community ; they brought persons of different parties together, and•the fury and rancour of party strife_was forgotten in the pleasures of the :amuse men t,—(Hear, hear.) Lord PAlXERSTONprofessed that he wOuldvather have the-Bill as it stood. A Committee was about to be appointed to consider the general - relations of the and he thought it Was' better to leave the Bill as it was. After a few words. from Lord EnniNarox and Mr. S. WORTLEY,. , • • , • Lord G. 13ENTINCK. said, that no bets on the en suing. Derby races ..could, according to the present state 'of the law, be the subject of qui tam actions until the Ist of September next. • The' gallery was then cleared for a division, but none took place, and the. Bill . was proceeded with. The clause; as amended, was then agreed, to. The remaining clauses, with some verbal alteration - S ? were agreed to._ _, _ On preamble being proposed, , Mr. CHRISTIE said he thought the line in the pre amble, which stated that the parties against whom the late qui tam actions had been brought, were ignorant that in making the bets respecting which the actions had been brought against them, they were committing an illegal act, shOuld be struck out. • Lord GEORGE BENTINCK said he 'had believed, arid he believed still, that in.m4ipg, bets,";korse- - racing he was doing a perfectlkle-gra a&- Mr, ROEBUCK said this was a novel principle of law„:"W bat - ten' dptiterft - 15 - ; if, ape Non' -61 ' 4 1 any offence were-to-plead .i g norance of the is w a p!ea had neverbeen alloWed; on the contrar co y', , 7„; or ignorance ef the iaw'Wits always consider ed fence. • Mr. MILNER' GIBSON agreed with hist•-o.; Learned Friend the Member he would adhere, to his determination;-to foolish expressions, which stated ignorance of "10 was an excuse. for breaking it, struck out of the Pr e After a few words from Mr. S. WORTLZI, Mr. ItOEBUCK said he Would put a case 9.. a A poor man comes to London; he is httnget: t hil a crust of bread, for which he is brought bet" e gistrate. He asks is he not allowed.to beg for - of bread when he is starving in a Christian eel; the answer is, " No, 'tis against the law;" sat di he protests he knew nothing of the eiistenee_, a law, he is sent off to prison. Surely this like one law for- the poor and another for the riePto Sir R. PEEL said, althOugh he did not wi' , „ g h Parliament interfere much in matters of'retr,7ll legislation, still he thought this was one, in vni.col: !lament ought to interfere to prevent gro ss ~l b y being done to many individuals - who Ntera 6- Et' the most enormous and ruinous penalties, and consequently record his vote iefavour of the 9.00 doing so, however, he felt called upon to sal, t to thought that part of the preamble which sta t e l „ norance of the law was an excuse for breaking " be omitted. • After a few words from the Attorney- OW° Watson, and Mr. Roebuck,-. 0164 Mr. T. S. DUNCOMBE objected to the s t those words, and he thought the Bill would n i e g x arrived at its present stage, if the preamble d i n, D O tain these words*. He heard an Hon. an“ ~.,1 1 1#; Colonel opposite (Colonel Peel) say that'W*Swier of the law, and was loudly cheered. It might 1 5 0 01 ' nient for - Hon.* Gentlemen opposite to 'establis to doctrine, as it would give a plausible answe_ t ., who might , come forward to vindicate the esuli v e people, by saying that they did not intend viols 0 law: - There had been such things as monster Ili d cheers.) *He had freq —(Hear, hear, anl,4lodf plied *to this House for the commutation m punishment of individuals whom . he theuo' erred through ignorance ; and he had been as fret( , answered .by the Government, that igneran ce reo law was no excuse for breaking it. He s hoal" , on. having these words retailwa in the ,presuie would divide the House ppon- the question. 0' Strangers were then ordered to withdraw , numbers were - ' , For striking out the words ... S; Against it Majority - - On the motion that the word in the preamble _ I V brought by common informers, or by other act s be omitted, Mr. lIAWES opposed the omission. ug 00 4 Mr. J. S. WORTLEY insisted on retaining t" - in the preamble: • IIAWES said that the statute entitled ei r j o te.d Mr.' informers to bring those actions. That was re ° 01 0 ; by- law, and -therefore'it should not be, as it weeeL - 00 1 : He in the preamble. e thought it . would he • ft " - 01,v, ii state, as a reason for introducing. the present ,P . to V penalties had been * sought for diSproportion eu offence. 011 0 1 The ATTORNEY-GENERAL did not see ;',' unreasonable in retaining the words regarding ;o°' infOrmers. Perhaps it would have been het t , i e j t ifi,, i , " whereas certain actions had been brought, n tI V for no-action of the same. kind had been brough t years, it was expedient," &c. 6 tnt°' , Mr. WATSON saw ,no reason why the ca n i troducing the present Bill should not be fully' the preamble. Mr. S. S. WORTLEY was in favour of the Pri s't! as it stood. 00 01 ,) Sir R. PEEL suggested the propriety o f Gentleman who introduced the Bill, omitting "" objected to. After a few words from other Hon. Met:010 1 : the Mr. J. S. WORTLEY consented to withdra w jectionable wordS. aora i— e' , ' 3 51/ ' : Mr., DUNCOMBE said itwas . very-.extr witness thepersevering manner inn which the 1), ° „;g 'amen (Mr. Wortley) had insisted u pon rets' 4 ,p 0 r . 4 words, and had-instantly. abandoned them st, L o s gestion of the Right Hon. Baronet. One wora 0 0 ; suggested—then another and another-11nd ther e jt knowing where those alterations would stop' 0 orb been said that actions hid been brought bY. than common informers ; such'was not - theea 9 [„,,Nl l l; had been brought by actual losers. They si w- e t been at this. momeet. : listening to the e10e. 13 ,,d edified by, the instructions of the Attorney -t-l e ,'„ Ireland,.if it were.not •- or those trivial alterstw:lj Mr. lIRO - THERTON thought the House b ,„. o li o „ r c i wasting its time in protecting gentlemen who 0 9 law. All the arguments: that had been used in_i - tob . o the-Bill were in defence of gambling, and seeta'f.d hall iv been brought • in rather for encouraging than 0 ,.,0 vice. If there had been only 10,000/. - at‘stake . r t y' r e i would have heard nothing . of the Bill; ,but It s be loo amounted to half a million, and as the . bet Ors to the aristocracy, the Billhad been introduce }(L After a few words from Horsman, Mr. „t!` ley, and Mr. Milner Gibson, • Mr. HUME said the only *reason for brine'', Bill was to shield certain noblemen and gentian,'" had trangressed against the law. It was saidth' e ,, gentlemen- and noble lords' were in ignorance. of He thought that was a very insufficient excuse. lo t 1 ", individuals had ample means of ascertaining *) ", law was, and ignorance *Should not* be 'admi ts l i eo c flea. It was not admitted in the ease Of the labourers, and why shonld the poor man be to knoW the law better than the rich man? f e - rs,, b ri After a few words from several Hon.. 3fe rt "A"tif preamble was amended in the forth suggesi — Attorney-General fonEngland. , • 0 t"` .1 _The Bill, having gone through Committee, ordered to be reported. •• • - • • • ADJOURNED 'DEBATR—IRELA•" The Order of the bay hitiring-been road, Mr..' SMITII (tb r e • 'lrish tterney: G e ners. l ).a resume the taijpurnkt - dehate on Ireland.. fie 6 (F/jr t and Learned Member for W,..tcest er o , Wilde), having thought it right to bring* rntlsi h o c the .close of the, ebate last evening, charges sf_w - ree! o i -with. :respect to the ...mode in. which t i n' prosecutions had been conducted, whic h o et'O r x gene - the length of- ' imputing, : r d ' in in ' express • 'terms,' but by insinuati °° ' ho s t it ters reflecting' personally • upon hint; - Al br foloo the Abuse would .bear 'with him while lie 18-°,) the defence which he had to Offer.*---;-(0 0 .e,,L - 101:, - th . course he proposed to adopt Was thir. • had the good rottone to hear tlie whole'ef t"'„glit ",.„te but only portiOns Of' it ; and he 'therefore, th°,7.o - 0 5 best course:would be to go, sop by step;.6l'ei ty re it;ii proceedings - from the : first, and state th e ID th e which had induced him to come of ' r be 'own : :conclusions -upon every branch 0 ,0,1 case. It would: be necessary first of all ..t.dza",„'"„ t period when the' informations were swom * -yet `,. 5 t0 brought those' be' Cetihi the state the precise day, Nit he believed it'*10 0:1 " hict! 0 or 16th - of • IC/O.:Ler. The first circumstan'Oeg o"P;pe curved offer„t4e, j•PlOinuttiiina. had been swell'ea bYi p" course of: a most* extraordinary natUre *tide? t- pi ar.„o of the defendants--a course, he thought it;tue;,,' ef t to eessary to advert to because it, to a .certs` - fe ope" , regulated the - proceedings lie,adopted the applications made by him to the . Cour t shati . I )4' } Bench. fe* - days, after the informations noseoo,4 sworn, there was not a witness who, it 1 ,48 °I. %)10 05 bePll'exaplined, or would beeXanained, but ve.!`„„ s 011 M ll e .street s '' in Dublines a, spy, i n , convicted. perjurer.--(Letid Ministerial wished - Ale House to know—he espeCially wluoice,reet in it who were always declaiming about libertY , ),,, f i !I T O impartiality--that on the 20th of-October, ,1 01 e the in Dublin, large:JAßS were 'posted with t" a> te r -Weida' in large . letters at the head of th 9 T e 'pro c iir names of the witnesses in - equally intelligible „ovetber, —(Great cheera . .fronts the Ministerial s,lae*Toic. fw o ness was. more particularly pointed at than 4 yeln e ar He alluded to a gentleman . ..known te , th e of .. that Heuse„and ; Who had been .frP. l ' , 11 1 . 4 ployed• . by. • the ComniOnS" COin*ittsici t 'st o : a ia s taking of evidence—a gentleman:: Who d' . testimony imtio straightforward, manly, , s t ye J u manner,. that 'Mr. O'Connell; oin addressing- ed,00",, tliinecision'ofthe till, had warmly a n d mentqd lie alluded . 7 31 r. 'l -0 ,5 0 10 0 '.0 10 ,cl3er,a),,,.4rai this Was' . their 'tifiy;theirlibieet/tyticel - their convicted perjurerl-7(Alinisterial tigitoblif" was the man who,. for the puitiose.of't.le ieti ;if v 0 0 ° it :was; complained of *in every ne . visPaP e _! ,J, re 4 h a° had been :directed to • swear whatever "; was d ot for the purpeses of theliovernment.--.--(11%,' ra pt to p, an obseriatiOn made by :some, lion. hiflu„,; the , t o' beg;_g7 til d no t supposed to be by Mr: Shell.) Be Member's yardon, but hikiriterruptions S IW y, 0 noy hina.—(LOndclieers) drd not t!P:: fe Mr...SHEIV 4 - —did not interrupt. e i4ertn t. ! -- Sir 13, WINSTON BARRON--The from • - . f iddree siii t t if er 3 Mr. SMITH (in continuation and e t ea Sheil). He should. before sitting, haxo en e f the touch. upon in !reference to 00 0 i 0e" 'This being the.courae adopted, at the .v.e.r . ,,n iet piet4 0 6 , proceedings, before even the bills o!.._L io t hat n 1 0 sent up, it was :clear , to him (Mr. :,-", 93. , el 'olicso', be, not . te hav'e a' fair trial with the pones w elt , w clear to The witnesses, and, rail .coneE!rt . ! --- for' P e "' '6' . Lhroti n iii the Pialitnihotfhjatitat' re.Y%teryi7l_,).(nedLno°in:uteucehere:e:r.l7l,Aill:'.etilt: the. 20th of ,October.. - sx; ilit.6ru'iti°ll before be ing tendered:: against, iOr t s e t o : th e sional magistrates--this e 3 ft'' a6r6ln a u cc j aser * ‘l ° ` - ' 131 ) taken in order to turn the _ cil oe accused—to enable, those: charged, hero' " Z~ ois ie' forward and make charges agains t t , % The divisional" Magistrates refuse lifwf h u ll o ,f forniations.—(Hear,- hear.) ,Four (IA). t he _ t)1 1 ?; ° _ v o f mission Court., was Opened before two-..? ehoge,, perjuryßut th againstkities sg r o . h i l u d g . . h t4itt : 4 . i ' .l .tireefttin :rry.Lecien.ol;::,,f°,l_,7,i,,a;bCe"ts sitting, being: :the second day of t r jury , tore; b C ti o r a m litti n t C h a ti ti ni r ' t to ' h j Y t.'s • co dietrnent • was.: .laid 7.. before, h a e : ut still •beion icA tio e the 6th of November, the; ni s e t v„ th as e comuardsee tthoatthweaisirldgoopsted.t.orWasei;tth.r;:nicisiuHtourso',Segtv'''*sihecetnmo:f divisional magistrates, to comPe wo the elilt, ff o e, formations against Mr. "woes. , nfornistion hafetrvo this appeal ? 'To get at'th „ Aeneei - to Ott e .gioa intended, on I ff. ge t „ ut . the counsel.--7(Cheers.). e e i "1: r fuslidoin us 'oda t b ' to them, when they counsel.-(Cheers.)... 61. t Court?" • T he i r iugh es b t `o you not : go to the Commiosion. aga inst • bo 4r bt ~,. also to send up bills of 'fore the grand jiffy_ thia; -no-bilLiofi4udictluel‘ti.had • q" ' , p (Loud Ministerial cheers.) Sudt.....VA ou v-o n trer - ud i y id u ,h, w h o d ec l a i m ed so loudly a • Pies ; them, wPies, tod ue u A — near the e i g • s !ep 01 !lon, tl tent aloe .11.111 e th, 43, di(