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b, • - Va'e of Ireland th a t. they were disposed to do as n seesh fee tike as a P ar li ament s i tt i ng i n C o ll ege - gre en, the y would e away from agitation all its danger, and from the a, litators ttt their animosity.—(Cheers.) They would lease. to h e ,ehPeople of Ireland only this question to cc.nsider, Ither a British Parliament could legisLee for Ireland., when shoed the dos a itio l a a n n m d ; but if this . coalition between the highest of Churchmen the lowest of Orangists were suc- Z s fol, then indeed the 'agitation for repeal would be clan- Zi;rew•—(Cheers.) If friends like those roond were eet. out- Du' from the representation of popialona places by this D u i the ? world have to fear not the repeal of the Legislative f col alone, but a more fatal severance. The oil o p olltar7ism ' had been mixed up with the vinegar of " No VerYs The Hon. Member for Ashton had referred with de to the voluntary support given to religion by the th3' Dissenters of this country, and he had asked why h e Poor Catholics of Ireland could not do the same.—( Hear, el.) It w as an insult to common sense.—(Hear, hear.) se: reTai nded him of the naive observation of Marie Antoinette coulde .she was eating a bun, that she wondered how the people t be starving when they might buy such nice cakes for 51)en ee•—( Great laughter.) He had given his vote for the Pkposition of the Hon. Member for Sheffield, because it was i t; but whatever means could be adopted for carrying out o . s erant, he wou ld support t h em . H e a d m i re d the argument 1,00,711.0 n. M em b er f or St oc kp o rt, that instead of loaking, this measure as a v i o l a tion of conscience it should be re garded as doing truly theiran act worthy of Christians, uniting to gether people of different sects, who, whatever etdifferences, maintained the most important parts Pat which all admitted as their common Christianity. s ir R OBERT PEEL said,—Sir, already on three several ions 11 I have had an opportunity of ststing fully to the nijf" the motives of the Government in introducing this and their general views, and of answering those ques ,7 Which were put to me in the course of the debate, as to "'sr tiltesier objects. I think it therefore unnecessary on this I tZr i°ll, to trouble the House at any length. for I think ti s motion the same precisely as on the second reading. 1,1 j,„ R im. and Learned Gentleman, the Member for the ' er 'ity of Cambridge, avoos that it is his object to defeat eteie measure. I think the issue, therefore, on the present ne ws° 111 it a is the s readingreading of the Bill, with thatand for that which we who ,d ed for the ed on the kteo 4 vot t ,„ e will feel themselves under an equal obligation tft, t ° i t ° against th e proposa l o f this Hon. and Lear ned Gentleman. e lh ! proposal was supported by the Hon. Member for w et "'ander-Line, who, I understand. was the organ and re et:otative of a great body of public opinion in this country tit friendly to the voluntary system. Yet I was sun tor h ear , in the course of the speech of that Hon. Mem by b , statement—that if the measure originally proposed 1 I ,7:„,was an annual instead of being a permanent grant, or if t a ke"' new consent, instead of making it a permanent to se sss It an annual vote, he would be prepared to acquiesce in that ser,„sal, and grant the whole annual sum that I proposed of the 1 7; on the other hand, if the grant was to be permanent, si th " ti en. Gentleman said he . would . feel it his duty to contend Ole hike utmost vehemence against it. Now, cannot recan ts," opinion on the voluntary system with his readiness to t o rl'°rt the annual vote ; and I cannot understand how I am %to the suport of at least the great majority of those e hose 4 34 al were presented to this House, were I merely to make t een fi b D t Re from permanent to annual.—(Hear, hear.) I there is little difference in point of principle as to raising altet of 2 6,500/. annually or permanently—it amounts to sh s ,Z; ttl s strong a n e n gagement on our part, unless there the - ss " "some strong conclusive reason for the withdrawal of lie ss - " I Mal vote—for though the vote of 26,5"'01. a year should re et ,nttal, there would be, in point of tact, a virtual engage- Ate 7" its continuance little less than permanent.— ( Hear.) el ke ` cannot consent to purchase his consent by making that to g e * In thefirst place. 1 believe I should purchase but, little pert, and even though I could purchase much, 1 would not s w e, the alterati on . I s ay I believe that such a concession th e 1 0 quite alter the character of the measure in the eyes of e st People of —( Hear, hear.) I believe it would be Od ered as an indication of distrust, and that the alteration fsi t t ° l oPletely at variance with the spirit in which we pro % " e t° bring it f orwar d. O n th a t accoun t, Sir, it is wholly p to °` eIY power t o consen t to it. I shall do all in my power ,sat ail on the House to pass the measure as a perma hithe tfeine insguwfii;l( Hear, hear ) I must hope that witt will be toeuelataantages in avoiding the absolute necessity for an gill grant. I do firmly believe that the present excitement Win se u'iste, and that the public feeling in Ireland of t htnuch imp rove d, f or we cannot deny that the feelings 1 4 4 Protestant s of Inland with respect to this vote is ma- O hl Y different from that of the people of Great Britain tIW,7 , hear.) I believe that one of the great advantages of te' e t e will be, that it will serve as a connecting link be etc, Protestants an d Roman Catholics ; but happen what ti s ,Y,' beli eve t h at, from t h e examp l e set b y t h e grea t, por whiehtf t he Protestants of Ireland, by their wish—a wish th e I beli eve is cordially entertained b y t h e great b u lk o f prot estant body—l believe I may say that the manifesta tioit that wish will have a tendency to abate religious ant ist,:es In that country. But certainly, whatever be the Itre et t e l the present measure, I should contemplate with the Ithish" Pain and regret the prospects of that annual agitation (I.l . tallst be the inevitable consequence of an annual vote.— if "c. hears) I believe that a motion to repeal the Act, of Is Pi ted, may be brought forward in the next se-sion die"arnent ; but I think that agitation will be of a totally ki ts i l lln t character if the vote be made a permanent one. Se th l4. with respect to the immediate question under considera teem Before I notice the speech of the Right Hon. Gentle -110t," Member for Perth, I will allude to that of the Right o,4t.',9entlernan opposite (Mr. V. Smith). The Right Hon. I‘ :roan referred to the events which occurred in 1829, and Iteli7 f ll4 e which I took with reference to the Roman Catholic Ni s , Bill, and the Right Hon. Gentleman repeating what_ he Dtri l t he inconsi s t ency o f pu bli c men, referred to, as he hada lio e tet light, th e course w hi c h I pursued in 1829. The Right dr Gentl eman said, with reference tomy own characte r and the i d as ter of th e c l ass t o w hi c h I belong, that he regretted I that Ot on that occasion retire from office, at the same time lit to the Me might Right Honve my ourab' cordiael Gentleman, t the measu . that there may be to t Y,,fteaaions on which it would be the duty of a public man Islegotinish office rather than propose measures—measures he h would be altogether contrary to the principles which of hitherto supported. But I think the propriety eff sss t4ld king that course ought mainly to depend on the p il ip which retirement would have on the success of a th e " measure which he might believe to be necessary for h o Public good.—(Hear.) I think it was perfectly fair and my Right Hon. Friend, the late President of the Board e. , ratle to relinquish office. The Right Hon. Gentleman u nkks I ' ought thave pursued the same course in 1829. That i.)tecisely the course which I wish to puue, months which I p ruded to pursue. I did, until within a of the pe rer.when I consented to bring forward that measure for the s tib ' e l of the Roman Catholic disabilities.—l did contemplate r .J retirement from office—not because: I sl'runk from the 0/risibility of pre ss i ng th e measure — no t because I dreaded C tn charg e of inconsistency —net because I was not prepared tie t i s e ie a sacrifice of p r i va t e f r i en d s hip an d p o litical con *saki but because I honestly believed that my retirement tl ioe ' Promote th e success o f t h e measure w hi c h I then ght necessary—that I might assist my Noble Friend in thing that measure were I to make a sacrifice of office, and Po rt I might give, as I intended, a cordial sup- Iltle in my private capacity, to that measure. e ty When did I change my opinion ? I changed rtst ° l , ll . lei ml when it was demonstrated to me that it was alloo s ` c , e asary that I should make the sacrifice—when it was Me t , (l '? Inc that, however humble my abilities might be, yet, s kee t ;nog the situation which I filled, that with my retire- W r elo office the carrying of the measure would * have totally It it,th When it was p rove d to me that there was opposition to ove r% e highest q uar t ers , an d th a t that opposition could not be We s use unless I was prepared to make sacrifices of much that liS,...ucar to me —when it was intimated to me by my Noble arch that it was the intention of the highest authority of the to , t e h of England to offer the most determined opposition t a --n ' e Measure—when my Noble Friend intimated sni p :that he tho:ght that if I persevered in my intention to kitii;h te ceess was out of the question. It was then, and not Wil l i e . en, that I sa id I wi ll no t e xpose others to obloquy or te ben iall from w hi c h I w i l l myse lf shrink. I know all the cen eliefsest of my coming forward to propose the measure of s wag Roman Catholic disabilities ; but the moment that I 11 0 . te nvinced that the ohs' ruction to success would t hat P e s, t lY increased by retirement, then I stated ..Wlay not sacrifice others, be the consequences what they iaet s — „ e m:sself. I will propose the measure. These are the % nee : the case, and I think I acted a more honest par in I to °g to retain office and the proposal of the measure—that than ii`;" part more becoming the chi ract , r of a public m: ti tiet % i t Said to my Sovereign, s , We shad be exposed to sus " ta te f I Propose this measure"—advise the Crown . to . give b r i e nt to it, but myself escape from the responsibility of qtrot n g it forward. I must say, that whatever be the taunts bet a " out against me, that believing this measure to be a.d *hien% to the public good. forseeing the opposition with , g1 1 . ,t Would be encountered, I saw, in spite of all these taunts tßei e ,,i' l these schemes, whatev, r may be now said kee st , me, that it is more becoming in me to propose this to b ee tti t r e t and submit to the consequences, than say I think the no th - e l necessary, but I advise you on the opposite side of the Whi, ll to bring it forward, and expose yourself . to the odium . haul attaches to it. So much for the policy on which I ky . attaches the retention of office. If I believe now that t his 4 , - „ lll( Plislirnent of office should facilitate the carrying of tfreli - s s s ea tlre, I doubt now why I should not prefer that course 4 4t, sq ui shing office, and supporting it in a private station. te he t -44it ting all that the Right Hon. Gentleman has said y eti. „re s , het ~ T b r e e fet r ence to what he says had taken place in the . ay I have so imperfect a recollection of it, 4 1e 1 „, ae e not a th o e s slightest conception as to whether it is a said :hreentation or not. The Right . Hon. Gentleman has 14 2 etc h e was not prepared to fix the time, but that it was w e - / e ars ago • I regret that somebody had not taken down !tee, r a at the time, is for I have no recollection of ti.em ; be lt e ' w hether I argued this or not, I should like to see what t hat ' l l I then said g .--(llear. ) I have not Ve least doubt co s % * aid that th e E s t a bli s hed Church in Scotland should, in PristZ with the E s t a bli s hed Church in England, enjoy the same thee - e e s ; and I have not the least doubt that I also stated fess4°Y devotion to the principles which I had always pro• Yet I ( "!i i this subject. However, I have no recollection of ; ° thee: l4 sal that from what had taken place in Prussia and at% the cotinent I was not willing that the same Rgle should take n place in ' Ireland between the Catholics and eouai, s t ie to, and therefore I was anxious to avoid all religious It s ttsree btlt never did I hear it said that I at any . time k Ria r , 11 opinion in depreciation of the Roman Catholics.— fro t , • I never heard it asserted, and the first I heard of it was th e w t he t I saw in the public newspapers and . I must I the l it all I have heard from all sides is very contradictory . te he g - s ,,g ua ge which I believe I used.—(Hear, hear.) Again, 14 rn 55 / that I have no recollection of the part attributed lay, i;„"Y the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite ; but this I will eath,, !It during the cry that was raised against the Roman stud i¢-, I, for one, never joined in that cry. —( Hear, hear.) Aran moat here be a ll owe d to say that it does appear rather e t tillatte, if such was my language, and such my conduct tere te shaverit is rather remarkable, I say, that I should sub (eh Me,l7 suppatted this question as I have d0ne... 7 - stil s e s e l9 Now, from the manner in which I spoke upon this ki ' ll the year 1841, the Right Hon. Baronet opposite odvi i e ' ll quoting my words, "it would be better to follow my oe this question as delivered by me out of doors." Now, in , W hen I was out of office, I did not shrink from avowing 44 ration in favour of this vote, for I said it was an honour- Wcie n e P, gogement, and that it would be impossible, without t o Wi t rg the feelings of the Roman Catholics of Ireland, 1444.._,draw this vote ; and therefore now I support it, par ttelattearnttyreahtiglteLnzt believe it to be at all injurious to the P . r b o- Hear, hear.) I now think it impossible hivee to withhold this measure, or to advocate . the case o ". Member for the University of Cambridge. 1 be the lhat in Ireland they would be very independent of this Sts et ,l t t l i re; but still I must say, that if the Hon. Member . opt Persevere in his motion, I certainl must declare it is do e l3f , °at , power to be a party to such a vote.—(Cheers.) I it Wil f orward this measure under the impress i on t h a t ey e , not be continued regularly with a view of rescuing for htitilbe College of Maynooth from the position in . which _it . to s erto been placed, because I say it would be disgraceful 1 4' 1(41 to send s lo o s_ forward any measure of this nature that. could Ittl a.n ri upon as a dissatisfactory measure of legislation in ''sHear, hear.) I will n say that I was not pre ed f os soi b-- the opposition which this measure has met with from the lasenters ; but I will say this, that much as I respect de tore,P ree sion of public feeling upon all subjects, so far from klii -418 me, upon this, it will only tend as an additional „ e t ° rite to proceed.—(Cheers.) I do not say i/nts in de goletes° any party, but to prove to the Roman Catholics of n that the Government of this country were prepared %he ro to their unwires, which were dictated by nose otl •• than a kindly feeling.—(Loud cheers.) But of this I will give them the assurance that, in office or out of office, that which I have undertaken to do I Kill, to the ut most of my power, fulfil—it may be short of th.ir expecta tions, but they never shall have cause to charge me with abandoning their interest—which I will advance to the extent to which I feel, consistently with my public duty, I can pro mote it.—(The Right Hon. Gentleman sat down amidst loud cheers.) Lord WORSLEY then addressed the House for a few minutes, but owing to the noise in the House, and the impa tience which was manifested for a division, his observations were inaudible in the gallery. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that, having opposed the Bill in all the stages through which it had passed, he did not think that any apology was necessary from him for the vote which he intended to give on that occasion. The Right Hon. Baronet had the other night said. " Of course those who vote against the second reading of this Bill, will support the mo tion of the Hon. and Learned Recorder for London," but if he (Mr. Duncombe) recollected correctly the Right Hon. Gen tleman had stated that evening that every one of those Gen tlemen who were opposed to the Hon. Member for Sheffield would of necessity vote for the motion of the Hon. and Learned Member. Sir R. PEEL—He has changed his motion. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE—CW;nged his motion ! But how had he changed it The Hon. and Learned Gentleman had first proposed that the money should not be taken out of the Consolidated fund, and he then proposed that the report of the Committee which had agreed to the money being taken out of the Consolidated fund should be received that day six months. This was splitting hairs. He (Mr. Duncombe) said that the motion was precisely the same. The Right Hon. Baronet was right in calling on those Gentlemen who had voted with the Hon. Member for Sheffield, to vote for the motion of the Honourable and Learned Member for Cambridge. But it did not appear that they would vote for it. Were they to be told that the expression of public opinion was to he treated, as the Hon. Baronet said, as a ferment in the public mind, which was about to be set aside ? That was the language of the Minister to the people of England. He (Mr. Duncombe) would give the Hon. Baronet the credit of this. He had never seen any indecent haste on the part of the Hon. Baronet to remain in office, nor had he ever seen in him any unworthy desire to retain office after his power had gone. He (Mr. Duncombe) believed that the Right Hon. Baronet be lieved that it was his duty to pass this measure if he possibly could. But he was carrying it in direst opposition to the wishes and feelings of the body of the people.—(Hear, hear.) What the people of this country so much objected to was the endowment of the Roman Catholic religion. They objected to transfer this property where there was already one establish ment too mr.riy--(`° Hear, hear," and a laugh.) The Right Hon. Gentleman now set public opinion at defiance. There could be no question about it after his speech of that evening, but he believed the Right Hon. Gentleman proved himself the greatest enemy of the Established Church in Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) He would however do him the justice to say that he was the greatest friend to the extension of the franchise, for the people of this country would rri longer allow the constitution of that Howe to remain as it was.—( Hear, hear. ) Mr. COLLETT ( Athlone) rose amidst loud cries of " oh." He would not detain the House many moments. — (Hear, hear.) The question had been exhibited in so many different aspects, that he, as a young Member—(L d laughter)—hardly knew how to vary the question before the House. He approved of the motion of the Hon. Member for Sheffield, which he thought might be stated in a few words, namely, who was to pay the piper.—(Laughter.) Except upon the voluntary principle, he was opposed to all establish ments.—(Loud Laughter.) He thought that religion was a matter between a man and his God. He did not think that he had a right to say to the Roman Catholic that his own religion was bet ter than his, nor that the Roman Ca tholic had a right to say that his religion was better than Ma hometanism.—(lncreased laughter. ) Religion did not con sist in reviving obsolete forms, or preaching a sermon in a white, or a black, or blue surplice, but in doing good. He thought if they were to have a Pope, the farther off he was the better. It was better to have one in Rome, or in Exeter, than in London.—(Laughter.) He thought they need not go to the Consolidated fund for the money, when they could take 5,0001. a year from the Bishop of London and the Bishop of Exeter.—( Laughter.) If they did this they would be put more on a level with the meek and poor Apostles, whose fol lowers they professed to be.—(Laughter.) But they were no more apostles than he was.--(Roars of laughter.) He would support the measure of the Government. The House then divided, when there appeared— Against the motion For it Majority against the motion —ll3 Mr. TA NCRED then proposed that upon the report of a resolution from the Committee, that provision he made out of the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, for the endowment of the College of Maynooth, to move the addition of the following word,. " until provision shall be made for the same, by any Act to be phased in this or any subsequent session of Parliament, either out of any surplus in the hands of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners of Ireland, or by an assessment of the lands of Ireland to an amount equivalent to the remission of tithes made to the land lords of Ireland by the Tithe Commutation Act, as Parliament may deem most advisable." The House then divided, when there appeared— For the amendment ... 52 Against it Majority The report was then brought up. Mr. S. O'BRIEN moved the second reading of the Malt Drawback Bill, which was, however, after a few words from Mr. Hume and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, postponed till Friday next. The Museums of Art Bill was read a third time. - 76 Lord ASHLEY brought up the report on the Calico Print Works Bill. The remaining orders were ther. disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Qtrirter to One o'clock. IAI in AY COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) Group T. SYSTON AND PETERBOROUGH RAILWAY. MONDAY, SIXTH DAY. _ _ _ The Committee met to-day, to consider the clauses of this Bill Sir George Grey, Bart., in the chair. dr. WHATELEY, on the part of Lord Harborough, re marked that he could not assent to the clauses the Com mittee had drawn up since Saturday, relative to the mode in which the line was proposed to be taken through his Lord ship's grounds. The clauses had been drawn up on the recommendation of the Committee at the close of its sitting on Saturday, founded on an arrangement which it was said the Company had ef fected with the proprietors of the Oakham Canal, which passes through his Lordship's grounds, and along which it was proposed to take the line of railway. - The CHAIRMAN suggested that any opposition to the clauses should be offered when they came in regular order before the Committee, and that the objections should be confined to the adequacy f the clauses to carry out the arrangement come to on Saturday. The preamble of the Bill the Committee had considered proved, and they could not consent to the re opening of the main question. A number of clauses were then read, but no discussion took place till those relating to tolls were brought under con sideration. The CHAIRMAN and Mr. II sera. considered the rates both relating to passengers and goods too high, and gave several instances of lower rates in old-established lines. The Great North of England, the Newcastle and Darlington, and the Manchester and Ashton-under-Lyne Railways were cited as cases in point, along with several others. The clauses were ultimately postponed, in order to enable the Committee to collect definite information respecting the average rate of charges on other lines. The clauses relating to the carrying of the line through Lord Harborough's estate were then gone into. Tire first clause in reference to this matter was then read, which was to the effect that the line might be taken through the park, according to a line marked in a plan produced, either on the site of the canal, or outside of it to a distance of a hundred yards, as circumstances might require it. Mr. WitATELEY said it was the understanding on Saturday that the railway should be substituted for the canal through his Lordship's grounds. Now, there was nothing respecting this in the clause just read, so that it gave the Company the power to take the railway through the grounds, without using the canal as had been agreed to. There was, there fore, the possibility of a double nuisance ; there might be both the canal and railway existing at the same time. There was no security whatever that the canal would be used for the purposes of the company, as the latter could do nothing in regard of using the canal without an Act of Parliament. He thought the Bill ought to be postponed till an Act, empowering the company to take up the canal, was passed. The CHAIRMAN stated that the Committee had considered the objection of Lord Harborough to the original plan of the company as one of a serious nature, involving a con siderable violation of private property ; hence, they had felt desirous of a better arrangement being come to. Now, however, he thought the clause proposed quite as favoura'Ae as the proposition for taking the line along the canal, inasmuch as the line if not carried along the canal, in the event of the arrangement with the proprietors not being satisfactorily concluded, it would be taken outside of it, and at a greater distance from his Lordship's house. Mr. TALBOT, on the part of the comppy, said they were willing to add an additional clause to ei he Bill, in order to give time for negotiations with his Lordship, and the canal proprietors. It was in substance that no land should be taken from his Lordship's ground without his consent within a twelvemonth from the passing of the Act. After some further discussion this clause, in addition to the other clauses relating to this portion of the line, were agreed to. The clauses respecting Stamford-bridge were next taken into consideration, and severally agreed to. They provide that 5,000/. shall be applied by the company to the widen ing of the bridge ; and that, for the additional accommodation of the inhabitants of Stamford, a footbridge shall be erected. A clause was also agreed to, that at the point where the line meets with the Eastern Counties Railway, near Peterborough, the speed of the trains should not be more than four miles per hour. After agreeing to several other unimportant clauses, the ' Committee adjourned till Thursday, at twelve o'clock. Group X. The Committee appointed to investigate the merits of the Bills comprised in group X met this morning in Committee room No. 16 ; present, Lord Courtenay, Chairman, Mr. Darby, Mr. P. Scrope, Mr. M'Geachy, Mr. B. Wall. The Committee had the following Bills before them, namely,—London and York—Lincoln, York and Leeds Direct —Cambridge and Lincoln Direct Northern Eastern Counties (Cambridge and Huntingdon) Eastern Counties (Ely and Whittlesea)— Eastern Counties (Hertford and Biggleswade)—Eastern Counties (Finsbury Extension)—Eastern Counties (Ely and Lincoln Extension)—Midland Railways Extension (Swinton and Lincoln) —Midland Railways Extension (Lincoln and Ely) —Rotherham, Bawtry, and Gainsborough Junction—Shef field and Lincolnshire Junction—York and North Midland and Doncaster Extension—Tottenham and Farringdon street Junction. . . yV- At the sitting of the Committee, this morning, strangers were ordered out of the room in order that the Committee might deliberate as to their mode of proceeding. On the re admission of strangers, they wire informed that no one but agents and counsel would be allowed to remain. The reporters were rudely expelled, but they forwarded a note into the room to Lord Courtcnav, signed by the reporters for the Times, Morning Chronicle, Morning Herald, and The Sun. The answer to this note was, that one reporter might be ad mitted, but only one. This proposition was, of course, rejected, and another note was sent into the Chairman, and the answer to this note was, " that the press could not be admitted to day, but perhaps they might be admitted to-morrow." We may add that the Committee Clerk, whose name is Creed, was principally instrumental in the refusal to admit the reporters. Group B. WEST YORKSHIRE DISTRICT. MONDAY, EIGHTH DAY. The Committee sat this day at twelve o'clock. P. M. STEWART, Esq., M.P., Chairman. The CHAIRMAN announced that there were some clauses in the Bill they had under their consideration on Friday which they should postpone the cousideratiou of, as they related to tolls; other Committees having adopted the same course in respect to similar clauses. The Solicitor to the Bill then read the other clauses left undisposed of on Saturday, in which some mere verbal amendments were made. _ _ _ Several Counsel announced that they appeared on behalf of the I,ornore Company, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Slayden, Col. Pepys, Mr. Jenkins, the Bradford Board of Surveyors, and others, against the Leeds and West Riding line. The CHAmmAx said they would now proceed to business with the LEEDS AND WEST RIDING LINE. Mr. AUSTEN said he would occupy very little of the time of the Committee with his opening statement of the Leeds and West Riding scheme. In this line he begged to say that he included the branch from Cooperbridge to Huddersfield : but of that he would say no more now, as he would leave that to the witnesses. The line he was now advocating was proposed to be undertaken by the Leeds and Manchester Company, and was in the form of an in verted S, and included Halifax and Leeds, and Wakefield and Dewsbury, and many other im portant places before the Committee on the map. The Leeds and Manchester Company had already 'tinkle one line, which had been found to be of great advan tage to the public. The communication which the Leeds and Manchester Company had already given be tween Leeds and Manchester was sixty-one miles; and they now proposed, by what they called the West Riding Line, to give the shortest possible mode of communication, by reducing the length of the distance from 61 to 47 miles, thereby saving a journey of 13 miles, by opening a communication by way of Halifax. Besides that, they brought within the sphere of Leeds and Man chester the important town of Bradford, which was eight miles from Birmingham. The population of Bradford was 105,000, and therefore it would be a great convenience to that mass of people to bring a railway station within 24 miles of them, instead of eight miles, and they also put Halifax on the line; and th::t town had a population of 130,000 inhabitants, and therefore it would be unnecessary to point out the importance of having this line carried us to this town. The second object of those who proposed this line was to cause an inter-communication with Brad ford, Halifax, Dawsburv, and another district, not on the map, but which he would call the Clackheaton Valley, and which was a most important branch. In fact, what was wanted was, that some giant station should stand at the cross of Lomore and spread out his limbs all over this line of country, in order to enable the people engaged in all the departments of such trades as dyeing, weaving, fulling, stubbing, wool stapling, &c., all of which were of very great im portance, as well as for the convenience of a number of people who did much of their work at home, and therefore wanted a cheap and expeditious mode of going for and taking back their work to the manufactories. Therefore, the objects of the Leeds and Manchester Company in this scheme was economy of construction, quick transit, and low fares, all of which could est be achieved by the lines being made by one Company. There was already a branch from Leeds to Halifax, and therefore it was pro posed to begin at Copley Mills, where the gradient would only be 1 to 100, and no private property would be inter fered with. They then went on from Halifax to Lomore, which was the highest point on the line. From that the line was a descent, and the traffic upon that down line, in iron alone, was about 23,000 tans of pig and bar iron per annum, besides an enormous traffic in coals, therefore if this line were made, it would be of great conve nience. They then proposed to cross Lomore at the most convenient height for all purposes. The length of tunnel proposed to be made on the line from Copley-hills to Hali fax, was 92 yards; the second tunnel, that from Halifax, at Beacon-hill, would be 836 yards ; the third, at Lightcliff, would be 345 yards; the fourth, at Wyke, near Lomore, would be, 1,238 yards; and the district from Lomore to Leeds was a uniform level of lin 100. There were no engi neering difficulties on the line, but there was to be a tunnel of 1,696 yards ; and the station at Leeds would be found to be as convenient as it is possible to make it for all rail way purposes. He would now go back to Lomore. The tunnel on the line from Leeds to Bradford would be 1,092 yards, and that line could be made on a gradient of 1 in 70. The line from Lomore to Dewsbury was 74 miles long, and there would be no tunnelling in it; then they proposed to go from Wisbrig to Brighouse. where they proposed to join the Leeds and Manchester line, and there would be no tunnelling on that either. Thus, then, he had shown that this under taking would consist of six lines and five branches, and would be understood as the West Riding line. The extent of mileage was about 34.1 miles, having six tunnels, and the whole cost had been estimated at about 1,100,000 L, or at the rate of 34,0001. per mile. He would now proceed to call his witnesses. Mr. BAINES said, that perhaps he would save some trouble and loss of time by now repeating an offer which he had made before. He was now ready, on behalf of the Dews bury Company, to repeat their otter, which, if acceded to, would secure all the contemplated advantages to the public without injury to the Leeds and Manchester Company. It was this—to give the Dewsbury Company the power to make their line between Leeds and Mirfield, at the point where Mirfield was joined, the Dewsbury Company giving up the Cooper-bridge line, on condition that the Leeds and Manchester Company would allow an uninterrupted communication to pass between Leeds and Huddersfield by Cooper-bridge. Mr. AUSTIN said he could not be prepared before to-morrow morning to give an answer to the proposition. The first witness called was Mr. Frith, who deposed that he had manufactories at Leeds, Bradford, Nottingham, and Glasgow, and that the lines of rail proposed by the Leeds and Manchester Company would afford great convenience to his manufactories for the transit of his goods, coals, &c. Mr. Robert Baker—Was a member of the Leeds Town Council, and the author of the sanitary report of the town for the Poor-law Commissioners. The proposed lines would be a great convenience for the transit of coals, of which an enormous quantity was consumed in the manufactories of the town. _ _ Mr. John Botterill deposed that he was an extensive dyer, and that the saving to his firm in the cartage of coals by the propcsed lines would be very great, and the supply as abun dant and certain. Had had an offer from one coal com pany to sell their coals at ls. per ton cheaper if this line were made. Mr. Bateson—ls an Alderman of the borough of Leeds, and a member of the West Riding Railway Committee; the present scheme contemplates the line called the short line of last year ; the object was to shorten the distance between Halifax and Leeds, last year, by a line from Leeds to Bradford ; the short line would be very advantageous to the woollen districts, particularly at Pod sey, where low cloths were made by the workmen in their own houses ; if there were a line of rail from Pudsey to Leeds, there would be great traffic upon it. The Town-council of Leeds and the poor-law guardians, and many others had signed petitions in favour of this line. Cross-examined—The petition of the Town-council was not a corporate act, but the act of individuals ; did not hear that the same parties signed a petition for and against this line. Mr. Benion—ls a magistrate of the West Riding, and is in the trade of flax-spinning at Leeds. Was of opinion that the proposed line was of the greatest importance to the trade of that district. _ _ Mr. Cliff, a resident at Wortley, and an extensive dealer in bricks, gave evidence in favour of the line. Mr. Grant, another resident of Wortley, and a surveyor of one portion of the township, agreed with Mr. Cliff that the West Riding line was the more preferable of the two. Mr. 11. Carr, a cloth manufacturer, living at Little Moor, in the township of Pudsey, said the population of Pudsey was about 10,000, most of whom were in favour of the `Vest Riding line. Mr. TALBOT intimated that this closed their evidence for one of the districts through which their line passed. The Committee then adjourned. Group DD. The Committee met at twelve o'clock in room No. 14, and consisted of Mr. Parker (Sheffield), Chairman; Mr. Mon tague Gore, Sir P. Egerton, Lord Ebrington, and Mr. East. At first there were no arrangements made for the accom modation of the reporters, but on a representation being made to that effect to Mr. Parker, the Chairman, he very kindly directed that accommodation should be provided fur them. The railway comprised in group DD. are the Caledonian, Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle, Clydesdale Junction, Edine burgh and Glasgow, and Scottish Central. After a great deal of preliminary discussion, it was agreed that the Scottish Central, and the Edinburgh and Glasgow lines should be taken into consideration. Both are com peting lines. Mr. Johnson, of Kinkardine, and some of the inhabitants of Perth, petitioned against the Scottish Central scheme. Mr. Cockburn, Mr. Talbot, and Mr. Hope, appeared for the Scottish line, Mr. M'Neill appeared for the Edinburgh and Glasgow line ; Sir Thomas Philips and Mr. Hildyard appeared for the Dumfries line. Mr. TALBOT stated the case on behalf of the Scottish Cen tral line. He said that the object of the projectors of this line wail to make a line of railway, which was to be forty five miles in length, reversing the natural order, and com inerong from the north; this line might be said to pass from Perth, by-Strathedon, and through Stirling, till it com municated in two - places with the Edinburgh and Glasgow, to the western point, being a place called Castlecary, which forme 1 the extreme terminus of , the. Caledonian Railway to cards the north, the distance being 18 milesifrom Glasgow, the eastern point being at Falkirk, 24 miles from Edinburgh, so that it might be said to bisect the lidinburgh and Glas gow line. The estimate for the construction of the line was 830,0001., and there were no engineering difficulties along the line. There were 155,000 souls along the line, and if the branches extended to a distance of 10 miles on each side of the line, and to 20 miles from the terminus, it would com prise a population of 700,000 fouls. One of the advantages of the line was, that it would get rid of the ferries of the Frith of Forth and the Frith of Tay. A very large amount of passengers was expected. Be tween Dut.dee and Glasgow there was a considerable traffic in gc ods expected. From Dundee to Glasgow a large amount of linen, canvass sacking, and Baltic produce would be con veyed, and from Glasgow to Dundee, colonial produce, Irish provisions, and grain would be conveyed. Between Perth and Glasgow there would be a traffic from the former to the latter place in grain, meal, and manufactured goods, and from the latter to the former place in flax, iron, and colonial produce. It would afford a cheap means of conveyance for the Bannockburn coals to Perth, to which place the supply of coals was inconvenient and ex pensive, having to be carted twenty-five miles. There were petitions against the Bill from Mr. Johnson, of Kincardine, from certain inhabitants of Perth, who opposed the Bill on account of the proposed scheme interfering with the North and South Inch ; but he begged to say that the pro prietors generally of the counties of Perth and Stirling were in favour of the Bill. Mr. Caorrox appeared for the Edinburgh and Northern line, and begged of the Committee to reserve a right to him of cross-examining the witnesses in support of the Scottish Central line with respect to a certain,elause in the Bill. Mr. PONSONBY claimed a similar right on behalf of Lord Kinnaird, the Chairman of the Dundee and Perth line. Mr. Sidny, Provost of Perth, was then called and ex amined in support of the facts stated by Mr. Talbot, and was cross-examined by Mr. Tytler, who appeared in support of the petition from those inhabitants of Perth who opposed the line on account of interfering with the South Inch. The effect of the evidence of this gentleman was, that Perth would be considerably benefited by the proposed railway; that the Inch near the town was used as a place of recrea tion, and that it would be occupied to a certain extent by the proposed railway. Mr. George Buchanan, the owner of a cotton mill near Perth, gave testimony corroborative of the evidence of the former witness ; after which the Committee adjourned till Twelve o'clock to. morrow. BLACKBURN, BURNLEY, ACCRINGTON, AND COLNE ; OR EAST LANCASHIRE RAILWAY. Group D. The adjourned Committee met this afternoon at half-pass two, and immediately proceeded to business; Mr. Berm. in the Chair. A clause regulating the maximum of rates which had been directed to be added to the Bill, and which had been prepared by Mr. Coates, the agent, since the last meeting of the Committee, was submitted by him. The clause limits the tolls for first-class passengers, including use of carriage, &c., to 4d. per mile ; and for second and third class passengers carriages will be provided to travel at the rate of twelve miles per hour, and the tolls will be restricted to id. per mile, TTIE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY MORNING, APRIL 29, 11445, The clause was ordered to be made part of the Bill. Mr. PACH',T, who, it will be recollected, made an ap plication a few days ago to the Committee to be heard on petition, in oppo s iti on to t h e Blackburn and Colne lire, ( n behalf of the Manchester, Bury, and Bolton Canal and Railway Company, renewed his applicaton. The clause to hich he objected had been passed during the absence of the Parliamentary agent and himself; and, con sequently, they had no opportunity of opposing its introduc tion into die bill. Ile would wish now to proceed with his objections i'" it met the views of the Committee. Mier considerable discussion, The CHAIRMAN stated that, looking at the matter in the strongest light, the Committee could come to no other resolution than to refuse to hear counsel in support of the petition presented by the Manchester, Bury, and Bolton Canal Company, unless the permission of the promoters of the Blackburn, Accrington, and Collie Railway was first ob tained. The clause which Mr. Paget appeared to oppose had received the Chairman's signature, and had become part of the Bill, and, therefore, the Committee were unanimously of opinion he could not proceed with his opposition. The agent for the Blackburn, Accrington, and Colne Rail way, having refused to give his consent for counsel to be heard, Mr. PAGET requested that the presentation of the petition and the decision of the Committee with regard to his applica tion, might be entered on tie minutes. The CHAIRMAN acquiesced ; and, after the introduction of a few more clauses, ordered the Bill to be reported. THE LEEDS AND BRADFORD RAILWAY was then proceeded with. Mr. Pritt, the agent, introduced a short clause for regu lating the gradients to meet the views of the Board of Trade, and a'so a few more clauses fur limiting the maximum rates, &c. The clauses were all passed without opposition, and the Chairman ordered the Bill to be reported. The last Bill brought forward was the BLACKBURN, DARWEN, AND BOLTON RAILWAY, which, after the introduction of several clauses of a similar nature to those already alluded to, and which were passed without opposition, was also ordered to be reported. This terminated the business of the Committee with regard to all the schemes comprised in group D. The Bills will be reported on Thursday next. Committee S. This Committee, Mr. StuartWortlev, Chairman, re-assembled this day at half- past two o'clock in room 17, to dispose of the remaining clauses in THE BELFAST AND BALLYMENA RAILWAY. Mr. ALEXANDER proposed that the maximum rate of tolls and charges on the line should be 3.1 d. per mile. The Committee were of opinion that 3d. would answer the purpose. This rate after some discussion was agreed to. Several other clauses were then gone into, and after some amendments, they passed. - The Bill having been gone ft - n. 6411, The CHAIRMAN said that he w6uld report specially to the House in respect to the report of the Board of Trade regard ing this Bill. The Board of Trade had reported that the Belfast and Ballymena Railway would be both expensive and unremunerative, and that the line of railway would have but a single line of rails, whereas the evidence showed that there would be a double line of rails. After this decision the Committee adjourned to the 20th of May. Sub-Committee, No. 1. This Committee re-assembled at one o'clock, Mr. Strutt in ,he chair. LIVERPOOL AND OR3ISKIRK RAILWAY. This adjourned case came on to day, and the remaining allegations were :gone through. Standing orders not com plied with in several instances. RICHMOND AND STAINES RAILWAY. The petition for this Bill came on to-day; the prepara tory forms were gone through, and the further hearing was adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS. COMMITTEES ON PETITIONS FOR PRIVATE BILLS FOR THIS WEEK. TUESDAY, APRIL 29. Eastern Union and Harwich Railway and Pier (No. 2). WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30. Goole and Donca ter Railway. Sunderland, Durham, and Auckland Union Railway. Great Western Railway (Ireland) (Dublin to Mullingar and Athlone). Midland Railways Company ( Birmingham and Gloucester, and Bristol and Gloucester Railways Purchase). TnUIZSDAY, MAY 1. Bristol and Gloucester and Birmingham and Gloucester Railways. NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE. FRIDAY. APRIL 25. North Wales Mineral Railway,—Select Committee on project, Monday, May 5, at twelve. York and North Midland Railway (Bridlington Branch), — Committee on Bill, Monday, May 5, at twelve. York and Scarborough Railway Deviation,—Committee on Bill, Monday, May 5, at twelve. Whitby and Pickering Railway,—Commit tee on Bill, Mon day, May 5, at twelve. Great North of England, Clarence, and Hartlepool Junc tion Railway,—Second reading, Wednesday, April 80. Eastern Union and Harwich Railway and Pier (No. 2), — Committee on petition, adjourned till Tuesday, April 29. Great Western Railway (Ireland) (Dublin to Mullingar and Athlone),—Committee on petition, adjourned till Wed nesday, April 30. • South Eastern Railway (Branch to Deal and Extension of Canterbury, Ramsgate, and Margate Railway),—Second reading, Tuesday, April g 9. Eastern Union and Bury Railway (No. 2),—Second read ing, Tuesday, April 29. South Eastern Railway (Maidstone to Rochester),—Se cond reading, Tuesday, April 29. Erewash Valley Railway (No. 2), Second reading, Tues day, April 29. Bristol and Gloucester Railway (No. I),—Committee on petition, postponed sine die. Ely and Huntingdon Railway,—Committee on Bill, Mon day. May 5, at twelve. Waterford and Limerick Railway,—Second reading, Tues day, April 29. Bristol and Gloucester and Birmingham and Gloucester Railways,—Committee on petition, postponed from Monday, April 28, till Thursday, May L Epsom and Dorking Railway, —Second reading, Tuesday, April Sunderland, Durham, and Auckland Union Railway,— Committee on petition, adjourned from Monday 28th till Wednesday, April 3C. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF EXCHEQUER, April 28. TRIAL AT BAR.-THE GREAT DISTILLERY CASE. THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL. V. GEORGE SMITH The Court sat this morning at ten o'clock, and Mr. Drink water, supervisor of Excise, was again placed in the witness box, and examined by the Solicitor-General. After giving the products during the different periods of distillation, the witness proceeded :—The pump, although locked by the Ex cise, does not prevent the trader or his servants communi cating with the pipe by means of the 'valves. The officers were not constantly present at night, unless the trader gave them notice that he intended to remove wash, or feints, or spirits. I was examined with regard to the swell In the pipe which entered the spirit receiver. The defendant did not, after the last dripping, ask to have the receiver re dripped. Robert Batten was recalled, and examined by Mr. MARTIN —I went to the defendant's premises in June, 1843, in the capacity of inferior officer of Excise. There were four in ferior officers—namely, Ribble, Pitcher, Mill, and Wallace, beside myself, and Mr. Drinkwater, the superior officer. They did not continue all the time, for they were replaced by others. At one time there were two additional officers —I mean during the 9th and 10th distilling periods. There was a strict survey kept on the premises during the whole time I was there. There was but one officer there during the period of distillation. The receiver was emptied after every charge. An officer regularly attended to the removal of the charge from the receiver. An officer was present while the spirit was running into the receiver. After the charge was removed from the receiver, water was afterwards poured into it by the trap-door. I cannot say what the reason was why water was placed in the receiver, un less it were to wash it out, so as to leave no spirit behind. I have never found spirits carried about by the workmen in cans or vessels of any kind. Some samp!es of the wash were taken by ma and delivered to Mr. Drinkwater to be distilled. I took occasional sam ples during the whole time I was there. I discovered the first hole in the cover of the receiver on the morning of the 13th of December, 1843. One of the foremen of Mr. Smith' was with rue at the time. His name is John Dring. He was not on the receiver, but he was watching me. I did not tell him of the discovery I made. I told it first to Mr. Drinkwater on the same morning, about six or seven, hours after. I kept watch that no one went to the receiver. The boards were nailed on the top of the receiver, and round the suction-pipe. The boards were old, . and apparently had been there for a long time. I examined them on the 18th of August, before that time, and found them firm. I might have examined those boards between August and December, but I won't be posi tive about it. Before the 13th I had no means of judging whether they were firm or not. (The boards alluded to were handed to Mr. Martin.) These are the boards, and the outside one was moveable. The hole in the board was freshly cut. The fact of the fresh sawing of the hole was not pointed out to Mr. Smith, as he would not stop. I informed Mr. Drinkwater of the discovery, and he took the charge in the receiver. It was filling at two o'dock in th e morn i ng . I saw Mr. Drinkwater take t he stren g th, and Mr. Smith and lie said there were 28 ga llons of excess. M r. Drinkwater tookthere was the anexcess. measurements, I afterwards but it was Mr. S m ith w h o sa id that there was not an excess, and lie asked Mr. Drinkwater to measure it again. Mr. Drinkwater showed him the hole, and he said that the nails had rusted off. Two of the managers, Gill and Viner, came with 11Ir. Smith in the first instance. I did not hear Mr. Smith propose that the spirits in the vats should be measured out in gallon measures, to prevent mistake. The 28 gallons of excess were taken away by the Excise, but I have not heard that they have been con demned. The t op of the receiver was made good that day , and remained s o till the 12 th or 13th April, when the boar ds were tem p o rarily removed, and then replaced again. I ani not aware th a t th e E xc i se h as taken any measure with reg ard to that hole. The second hole in the top was discov ered in June, 1844 . There were two men present belonging to the establi s h ment. I t might be about four or five o'clock when the di scovery was made. Hamilton, a carpenter, wa s sent for, but I did no t say t h at I had pushed out the plug with my ner. I aid had knoked it out with a piece of iron. I hea fi rd g Gill, s the l foreman, c said to Hamilton, " Hamilton, what do you think of this? What do you think this has been ?" llamilton said, " Oh, an old dipping-hole." Then Gill said, " Just what I said." Then they brought dipping-rods, but they would not go into the hole. I saw Mr. Smith some days after, and told him. He said he knew nothing about knot it, -hol e and . I m if t wasade there, it must lave been a the drip two-tenths` - more than Mr. Drinkw a t er . Th ere was a dispute between Mr. Sm ith and m y self on every charge. Mr. Smith complained dur in g the whol e time I was there. On the 23d of March, 1844, we had " a grand disput e " as to the quantity of spirits in th e receiver. I m ade it a tenth more than he. Mr. Ross and another offi cer came down and tested it afterwards, and th e y found a tent h more than either wpriollse go cutitoantmheay informer rne intor innYd pocket. One h a lf o f th e penalty the other h a lf t o th e Q ueen . I of us. I cannot tell what amount of th e proceeds of this expect nothing but what t he law has p r ovided in the usua l way of business.—(Laug hter.) I do not expect 75,0001. It was late in the afte rn oon —about five o'clock—when Drink water said lie was ready for his ex p erim ent with the p i p es. When he made the first experiment, which wa s made with spirits, there was a failure. t was eight o'clock when the g fo o i a spirit_ began to run from failure.` No. Bto vat No. 17. It ran for an hour. It was three hours before they were able to get the pipes to work, in consequence of some air having got in. It was found necessary to stop two of the cocks with clay. To the COURT—One of the cocks which it was necessary to stop was on the roof—in the gutter like. The other was below. It was what is called a rack-cock. Thinks it was not clay that was used, but putty and tow. The exclusion of air was necessary to the working of the syphon. It toolt au hour to put the pipe in order. One of Mr. Smith's servants had passed under the pipe, and pushed it up with his back in order to break it or put it so out of order as to prevent the e periment, To Mr. MAnTIN—Does not know the name of the man who acted in that way. Believes that Mr. Smith was pre sent. Could swear to the man if he saw him. The LORD Cusar Binox—lf the man is to be produced, Mr. Martin, he ought to be brought into Court. Mr. MARTI): said that all the men in Mr. Smith's employ ment would be produced. Cross-examination resumed—The loss spirits upon the experiment was, apparently, 100 gallons, but the real loss was not more than 40 gallons. The apparent loss was al ways greater than the real when the quantity of water mixed with the spirits was increased. The spirits might have been re-distilled and there woull have been no loss. The quantity of spirits was 700 gallons, and the water 2,700 gallons. When the liquor passed over vat No. 17, it was five minutes or more before witness could taste the spirits. There were seven or eight officers of Excise engaged in the experiment. Several of Mr. Smith's men were about, but he could not say how many. Before witness was sent to Mr. Smith's he had been five years at Bromley. Had also been employed for the Excise in the distillery of Buchan and Co., near Edinburgh. Left that place when his time was up, and for no other cause. In Scotland the distillers were allowed to work at a lower gravity than in England. But they must give notice of the gravity they choose to work at, but they will be charged upon the amount of their notice at the end of the year, whether they produce the quantity or not. Mr. MARTIN would ask one more question. Did you put a puddling of clay round the opening in the top of the re ceiver when yea took the drip? Witness-1 did, to prevent water flowing in. Mr. MAI:TIN—Did you ever know that to be done before? —Never. Mr. MARTIN—Why did you do so in this case ?—To pre. vent the water coming in. The re-examination of the witness by the Solicitor-General elicited nothing of the least moment. By a Juror—The water passed through the pipes from one house to the other by the pressure of the body of water in the tank ; but the spirits passed upon the principle of the syphon, which required the pipes to be air-tight. By the Courcr—The looseness of the cocks, which re quired to be stopped with tow and putty, was occasioned by frequent working. The previous witness, Drinkwater, recalled, and examined by the Somorroa-GxNERAL---The pipe which I suspected to communicate between the two distilleries was that which one of Mr. Smith's workmen attempted to break. The man made the attempt maliciously, to prevent the experiment. It was quite plain that lie did so. I complained of it at the time. Mr. Smith was not present, to the best of my recol lection ; but Mr. Gill was. Edgar Eldrake examined by Mr. JARVIS—Was a surveyor of Excise. In consequence, of differences between Mr. Smith and the officer in charge of the premises, respecting the dip of the receiver, witness and another officer went on Monday, the 30th March, to test the dip. He found nearly a tenth more than Drink water and Batten had found. Mr. Smith accounted for the increase, by the dripping of water into the receiver. Witness tried by holding a quart jug under the pipe when the water dripped back, to ascertain whether the fact might be as Mr. Smith had represented. Found that the jug was full in seven minutes, and that would allow the whole quantity in the pipe to drip back in six or seven hours. Cross-examined by Mr. KELLY—Found that there was a reduction of the strength of the spirits from Saturday to Monday. The difference was equal to seventeen gallons on the whole. The Excise did not make any allowance on that account. They adhered to the dip as found by Batten on Saturday. Re-examined by Mr. JARVIS—The Excise put an addi tional cock on the receiver to prevent the trader from running in water and working of spirit, The difference of seventeen gallons of spirit would be fully accounted for by evaporation between Saturday and Monday. Tho Mas Frankish, examined by Mr. WILDE :—Was a sur veyor of Excise. In March, 1844, went to Mr. Smith's dis tillery with the officers, Cameron, Drinkwater, and Batten. I saw Mr. George Smith, when ameron asked him if there was not communication between the distillery and the recti fying-house ? Cameron added. that no doubt Mr. James Smith had told him what he (Cameron) had said the pre vious day. Mr. Smith said, that Cameron had no right to assume that his brother :had told him anything. Cameron again asked, was there any communication between the two premises. Mr. Smith said there was, for water, which supplied the whole neighbourhood, by pipes connected with the Com pany's main. Witness was present at the experiment men tioned by the other witnesses. He saw the spirits passed from the vat No. 8 in the distillery to the vat No. 17 in the rectifying-house. On a subsequent day witness examined the Water Company's pipes, and found that they had no connexion with the pipes in Mr. Smith's premises. Cross. examined by Mr. 111Artrix—When Mr. Smith said to Cameron that the pipes communicating between the two premises was for the conveyance of water, Smith went away with Cameron, but witness did not know it was for the purpose of showing him the course of the pipes. When the experi ment was made upon the pipe, it commenced at one o'clock. The first trial was with water. That was procured from the tank at the top of the house. They did not think them selves ready for the experiment with spirits until five o'clock. They made those experiments with spirits, of which two were failures. The third experiment, which was success ful, did not commence until eight o'clock. Did not know whether any material repairs were made upon the cocks from five o'clock to eight, for he was not present. He was chiefly in the rectifying-house. When the water came into the vat No. 17, it ran for five or six minutes. The spirits then came over and continued running for about 25 minutes. The officers then ran about 1,100 gallons of water to clear the pipes of all the spirit. That was done for the satisfaction of all parties, that there might be no doubt that the spirits had all been driven out. Witness has been a long time in the Excise, and has often found great variation in the dip of the receiver. Surveys Muir and Co.'s distillery, and sometimes, but not often, finds a variation in the dip. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL—DO you find a variation of so much as two-tenths. The Lonn CIIIEF BARON—Mr. Solicitor, you had better not go into that, which, for aught we know, will be another issue for trial.—(A laugh.) It is enough to take his an swer, that he does find variations. _ _ By the Coma—They found an apparent loss of more than 100 gallons of spirits after the experiment. But that was accounted for by the imperfect indications of the hygrometer at the low strength of the spirits, mixed with so much water. Made several experiments subsequently to ascertain what the apparent loss would be on spirits mixed with water in various proportions. The result of this was, to account satisfactorily for the ap parent loss. It was also found that there was lime in the vat, and that would prevent the hygrometer from acting rightly. If mud or dregs were mixed with the spirit, the action of the hygrometer would be disturbed. That instrument acts with certainty only upon pure spirit, and for that reason it is never used upon the worts. It is the saccharometer that is used upon worts. Drinkwater and witness afterwards made an experiment upon the contents of the vat, which accounted fully for the decrease. Their Lordships and the jury then retired for refreshment. When the Court resumed, the SOLICITOR-GENERAL called Cameron, who deposed to the same statements as those which had been made by the previous witnesses as to the conversation with Mr. Smith, and the experiment upon the ipe p The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said he had only called the wit ness to give the Learned Counsel for the defence an oppor tunity of cross examination. Mr. WATSON then asked the witness whether he had made any notes?—He had, but they contained nothing but dates. He had them not with him, but they were is a place at a short distance from the Court. [The witness was then told to produce the notes, and he withdrew for the purpose.] The LORD CHIEF BARON—Mr. Watson, if you produce the notes, you must put them in evidence, for the witness has not used them here as vouchers. Mr. WATSON declined to make the notes evidence, and, on the witness's return, proceeded to cross-examine him—Wit ness believed that he commenced the experiment with water, at five o'clock, and not at one ; but he would not swear that any one who stated that the experiment was commenced at one o'clock bad stated a falsehood. He had a very good me mory, and he believed that he did not commence until five o'clock ; but he would not swear to it. Mr. Milne, civil engineer to the New River Company examined by the:Somorron• GENERAL—Had made a survey of the premises belonging to Mr. Smith in company with a per son named Fox. The model in court is a correct representa tion of the premises, on a scale of an eighth of an inch to the foot. The witness then described, with the aid of the model, the course of the pipe communicating from the distillery to the ractifyinm•house, and explained that by stopping off cer tain cocks and inserting others, the water might be turned off, and wash could be transmitted from the distillery to the rectifying-house. That after those orifices had been closed the wash might be drawn out by syphons, which would draw out the wash by side orifices. There was a screw on No. 8, to which a screw might be attached ; and opposite to this there was an orifice, to which there was also a screw attached, and these screws corresponded, one being a male and the other a female screw. There were three nozzles in the premises, one over the sink, one over the cistern, and one over the pip. to which he had alluded. There was a commu nication on the vat No. 8, which might be entirely emptied through the pipe which lie had described as commu nicating between one part of the premises and another. There was a communication between the sink and the recti- fying 'house, but a longer nozzle would be required than now exists. There is a communication also between the vat under the sink and the cistern, by the attachment of a longer nozzle, and the spirit could also be drawn from the r were ff applied e t o x t etnhte of • p 3 i p oo es, g a t l h l e e n r e a a w n o d ul i d f t be e other vats as from the vat No. 8. If the principle of a sypho n water longer leg of the syphon were applied to the spirit and the shorter to the water, the spirit would immediately follow after the water had been drawn off, and this spirit might be pumped into any of the vats. There was what was called a dead pipe, there being no outlet at the end of it, but there were several flanges on the side of the pipe to which pipes might be applied, and he conceived that the branch pipes were old and the flanges of recent origin comparatively. There was no con nexion between the East London Waterworks Company , and the pipe which ran between the distillery and the rec tifying premises, and there was nothing between the main in Buck's-row and the rectifying premises. To a question from the CHIEF BARON, the witness replied that there was no communication between the East London Water-works Company's main and the distillery premises. Knowing the premises, he believed that the whole of the water required for the rectifying premises could be supplied to the ti hole of the works, except for the still heads through the trough in the middle, but by raising the trough eight feet, the whole of the water might be poured into the still head. To the inquiries of Mr. F. KELLY, Mr. Milne replied that he was aware that a large cistern—one that could supply many thousand gallons—would be required to be erected, and that there was no tank on the premises that could possibly supply the requirement at present. There were three tanks on the premises, and two establish ments were required to supply the premises, and the whole of the water must come from the main of the Water-works Company,: &c. The tanks on the premises were supplied from the main, and it would be necessary to make great alterations to put machinery on the trough so as to draw off the water. In order to supply the still heads, there must be pipes thepip e wash which i n entered h e rec tifying-house, which entered the reservoir very near servoir he t from the trough through the w orm tube to the still heads and the cistern must be enlarg ed in order to render this commu nication available, but if this com munication were to be made efficient, the whole o f the p remises might be supplied. The large reservoir was onl y made last y ear, the to p of the old rese rvoir being three feet lower t h a n t h e trough. At the couldhe There convey was a prese nt time there was no part of the premises suppllied from the trough, except that which passed into the worm - tube, and the the remaindere reservoir, r o which waste. top, and it would be necessary to have - the re • the top, the supply could be made to the rectiful g• house ;but the pipe went to the bottom of the reservoir, and 3 be conceived that the power of suction would draw up the wash from the lower level. There was a ga s pipe which ran on a corre sponding level with this pipe, but he ' pipe supplied. did not know what this Mr. Charles Fox, • • • a civil engineer upon the Birmingham Railway, had taken the levelof the premises • with Mr. Milne. 1 He had made an examination Cif the wash iesersoir, and lid agreed with Mr. Milne in the levels stated in that gentle man's evidence. Mr. Thomas Kirby was ejnployed in laying down the pipes in 1836, during which year the rectifying-house was built, but he knew nothing of the blind pipe. He was em ployed two days in laying down those pipes. In reply to the CnIEF BARON, the witness stated that he knew nothing of the box on the main. This concluded the case for the Crown. Mr. KELLY stated that as it was necessary to substitute one model for another, he thought it would be better to ad journ the case, especially as if he began then be should occupy as much time to-morrow as if be began now. The LORD CPIIEF BARON considered that the request of the Learned Counsel was quite reasonable. The SoLICITOR-GENERAL had stated to his Learned Friend that he had intentionally shortened the case, and he should, therefore, be willing to accede to such adjournment. The Foreman of the Jury said, that though the jury were aware that these adjournments were quite necessary, yet their time was very valuable, and the sacrifice of it of great im portance to themselves; he should be glad to know whether they might calculate on the case being concluded to-morrow? Mr. KELLY said that he thought he could conclude the state ment of the defendants to-morrow; but as the Counsel for the Crown would reply, he feared the case could not be con cluded then. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that he would make his statement as short as possible ; and that, if not to• morrow, at least the case would be concluded on Wednesday. There being no other cases to be taken to-day, the Court adjourned till ten o'clock to-morrow. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. SOUTHWARK. Anne Gray, a girl of the town, was charged, before Mr. Trail!, with stealing a purse, containing a 50/. note and three sovereigns, from the person of Mr. John Warne, of 5, Unicn place, Lambeth. The complainant stated that, between two and three o'clock on Friday morning, he met the prisoner in Blackfriars-road, and she persuaded him to give her some liquor. They ac cordingly adjoumed to a public-house, and having treated her to some rum they then came out, and proceeded some dis tance, when the prisoner suddenly left him. He walked for ward, and in a few minutes missed his purse, containing the 50/. note and three sovereigns, on which he went to the station-house and gave information of the circumstance, together with a description of the prisoner, who was subse quently taken into custody. The prisoner declared that she had never seen the com plainant until that day in Court, and although she was in the habit of frequenting the public-house alluded to, yet she was not there on the morning in question. Mr. TRAILL said he should remand the prisoner, to give time to trace the 50/. note, but at the request of the com plainant, the magistrate subsequently discharged her. EXECUTION OF THOMAS HENRY HOCKER. • Yesterday morning, at eight o'clock, the murderer of Mr. Delarue expiated his offence on the gallows, erected facing the debtors' door of the common gaol of Newgate. As early as two o'clock in the Morning, small groups of men, women, and children continued to assemble in the Old Bailey, and to discuss the all-engrossing topic of the proba bility of the condemned criminal having made a confession, or of the last extremity of the law being mitigated. The multitude that had arrived by seven o'clock was very numerous—the numbers exceeding any former occasion since the execution of Curvoisier Their conduct, however was orderly and peaceable. The police, under the direction of Major Shaw, Supperintendant, and Inspectors M'Clean and Spray, took up their several positions opposite the gaol a the clock of St. Sepulchre's chimed the hour of six. The culprit was seen by the Rev. Chaplain on Sunday in the condemned cell, to which _he was removed after the afternoon service in the chapel. He expressed himself re signed to his fate, although still professing his innocence. After being engaged in writing and prayer up to twelve on Simday night, he retired to bed, and slept soundly until five yesterday morning, when he arose and dressed himself. The Rev. Ordinary arrived at the gaol shortly after six o'clock, and was speedily followed by Alderman and Sheriff Hunter, Sheriff Sidney, Mr. Under-Sheriff Ashurst, Mr. Under-Sheriff Martin, and the other officers of justice. About a quarter past seven o'clock the convict was sup plied with coffee and toast for breakfast, of which he partook but sparingly, and it was now evident that his spirits were rapidly forsaking him, and that he was gradually sinking under the certain conviction that all hope was at an end. The Rev. Chaplain continued at prayer with him, and re ceived some letters for his relations, and one directed to him self (Mr. Davis) in the course of the preceding evening. The latter document consists of four closely-written sides of fools cap; but whether the statements therein contained can be relied upon or not is very questionable, as our reporter was informed that the culprit, since his condemnation, had made half-a-dozen statements at variance with etch other, which he destroyed immediately after reading them over to the officers of the gaol. At half-past seven o'clock the representatives of the public press were admitted into the chapel-yard, where the Sheriffs, 11ndersheriffs, Mr. Cope, the Governor, Mr. Wright, the Deputy-Governor, and Mr. D. W. Harvey, the Police Com missioner, had already met. The latter gentleman is ac quainted with the father of the wretched young man, who is a native of Colchester, in Essex, and during the more painful moments of the culprit, Mr. Harvey contributed his aid in bringing him to a sense of the awful situation in which he was placed. During this interview, which lasted about ten minutes, the services of Mr. Holding, the surgeon of the prison, were obliged to be called into requisition, as the cri minal was seized with several fainting fits. While the authorities in the Chapel-yard were engaged b earnest conversation, the prisoner Connor was seen anxiously thrusting his head forward through the bar of his cell above in order to view the solemn ceremony that was about to take place. About a quarter to 8 o'clock Mr. Sheriff Sidney, wearing his chain of office and bearing a black wand, came into the centre of the Chapel-yard, and addressing the reporters in an under tone, said—" The sheriffs think it right in consequence of what has appeared in a Sunday paper urging the delay of the execution, to state to the gentlemen of the press for the information of the public, that they have consistently with the greatest kindness anxiously impressed upon the prisoner the necessity of making any statement to them, which might have the effect of mitigating his sentence, and which they could with this view communicate to the Secretary of State. Although this has been repeatedly urged upon him, he has always declined to make any statement for the consideration of the Home Secretary, for being pressed this morning again to do so, he has said deliberately that he shall snake no formal disclosures. The Sheriffs have asked him if he has anything to say about the money in his possession, reminding him that he had made two statements on his trial, and to the female after the murder; to which the only reply he has made has been that what he stated at his trial was true in a great measure, and that Delarue seduced the . girl. The Sheriffs told him that it appeared to be inconsistent that Delarue should have been so far his friend, and that he (the prisoner) should entertain such a feeling of animosity against him. The prisoner has most solemnly declared that his was not the hand which struck the death-blow." Mr. Sheriff Sidney further added, that the prisoner had made a statement in writing, addressed to the Rev. Mr. Davis, which would be given to the reporters after they had perused it in the Lord Mayor's parlour, and ascertained that there was nothing of an improper nature for publication in it. The hour of eight now approaching very fast, the re presentatives of the press were admitted into the condemned cell, and the wretched culprit was at once seen standing on the :right. He was being addressed by the Ordinary. His face was pale, and his hands clasped together as if in prayer. He took Rttle notice of those persons who entered his cell, and on being told by the Chaplain that the gentlemen of the press were present, if he wished to say anything for the in formation of the public, he replied in a very low tone of voice, " I cannot say anything now, Sir—l am not sufficiently composed. If I had known that they had been coming here, I might perhaps." Calcraft, the executioner, now proceeded to untie the neckerchief of the prisoner, and to pinion his arms. During this process he swooned into the arms of two of the officers of the gaol, and was removed in an apparently lifeless state into the chapel-yard, seated in a chair, and some minutes elapsed before he was brought to a state of sensibility. The prison bell now sounded a solemn knell, and the procession, headed by the Rev. Chaplain, the Sheriffs, and Under-Sheriffs, moved slowly along the winding and dreary passages of the gaol towards the scaffold—the former gentleman repeating aloud the Burial-service. During these trying moments the unhappy culprit shook violently, and was obliged to be supported by two of the turnkeys. On reaching the steps leading to the drop he was carried up, and the only ejaculation he made use of was, ""fay God receive my soul," which was utterred in a very faint and querulous voice. The cap having been adjusted by the hangman, the wretched convict remained about half a minute under the drop, during which time his limbs tottered beneath him, and was then launched into eternity, amidst the mixed howling cheering, and hisses of the vast concourse of persons of both sexes that were present. The criminal did not appear to die for some seconds, ani his whole frame after the drop had fallen was much con vulsed. The body having been suspended the usual time, it was cut down, and will be this evening interred within the precincts of the gaol. (From the Wceky Dispatch. ) BY AN EYE WITNESS. As the clock of St. Sepulchre's struck eight, the death• bell within the prison commenced tolling, when a simulta. neous movement towards the scaffold was made by the crowd, followed by a cry of "hats off." At this period the con duct of the mob was, it must be acknowledged, most be coming. As soon as there was an indication of the convict's approach to the gibbit, a solemn silence reigned around, so much so that it appeared as if but one breath animated the congregated masses. The Rev. Mr. Davis, the Ordinary of Newgate, dressed in his canonicals, as cended the scaffold first, followed by the convict Rocker, who was supported by Calcraft, the executioner, and one of the turnkeys. He was deadly pale, and bad to be held up by the turnkey, while Calcraft adjusted the rope around his neck, and placed the cap over his face. Calcraft discharged the duties of his office most expeditiously, and having left the convict in the arms of his as sistant, hurried underneath, and withdrew the fatal bolt, when he who but a minute before was full if animal life, swung an almost lifeless carcass before the wind, which, at that moment sprung up, refreshing to all but him, who yielded his life in penalty for his horrid crime. For a second or two it was supposed that he died in the fall, but in the course of a few minutes the violent contortions of his body and limbs, and the writhings of his head proved that he endured great suffering. The tragedy having closed, the crowd separated, and in all directions fellows were selling " the last speech, dying words, and confession of Thomas Henry Rocker." BOOKER'S STATEMENT. Rev. and Dear Sir,—This is the last written communica tion I shall make to the world. My hours are now so few, that a babe might count them. lam not ashamed, again and again, to declare my innocence to all the world that I am not guilty of murder. God and my conscience bear witness ; and this I shall be able to shout from my heart on my en trance into eternity. It is the duty of every man to prepare for death. I trust that lam prepared. The very best of of men is not of himself worthya place in Heaven. My hopes beyond the g r a ve are not my own deserts, but those of another. My being i nnocent of the u ta will not crime submission o mur t de o r entitle me to an im mor t a l crown, but His will who has permitted me to be brought thus low with an open and sincere confession of all my p re sent and past youthful follies faith. These I have learned to believe are acceptable to our merciful and gracious Benefactor, whom I have so often offended. A man whom I have treated as my friend is the murderer of Delarue. his own admission of the fact was the only means of extricating me from this unworthy end. He has not come forward. Had I caused him to be apprehended he would doubtless have denied it. I have been assured that had I not been found guilty of murder, I should have been trans ported for life for highway robbery ; such an alternative has failed to induce me to divulge what it is my resolution to die with in my bosom. Let then this sentence ring in the mur derer's ears, that he is not only the destroyer of Delarue, but me likewise. I did not lift a hand against the deceased. There may even yet be found sonic harsh enough to brand me as dying ; but 0, if they luny what I alas too well know, thay would see the wrong they dome. I have awfbr4.3 too much, and am while writing this, too weak and heart broken to qait this world like an Atheist. My sorrows have been more than my strength (great as it has been) could support. lam no longer the same young man who heard sentence of death passed. without the distortion of a muscle. My troubles, both sleeping and awake, have so shaken me that I find it more easy to weep than to smile—every rising sun dispels the dark mystery of fjiturity. Already I see Death approaching me with incredsing strides. At night, when I lay my poor, aching head to rest, ere I can close my eyes, rude forms of shame and infamy attend my pillow; and oh ! what dreams. One moment, and all is past. lam again at home, every one cheering me with eager hands and heart at my return—no longer condemned—no longer unhappy. Then to wake and find my self stretched on a hard bed, and surrounded by iron bars and gloomy walls, that deride my anguish and mock at my distress. This is bitterness, in deed 1 Then talk not to me of the awfulness of death ! Death is the only friend that can make amends for all my wretchedness 1 For me to continue such as lam were worse than ten thousand deaths. Even death on a scaffold (that shameful end) to me is far preferable to none. lam heartily sick of the world that has treated me as though I had always been a criminal in its estimation. No one ever suspected me guilty of an unlawful breach until I Cainehither, and yet no one would take me by the hand. Because I c. , uld spell and write, my poverty was a crime. Think you then my thoughts still lingered behind, and that I wished my days were renewed? My hopes of heaven are worth them all. My home and an isolated friend here and there are my only attractions, and I hope and trust that I shall meet them soon where all is light and joyous—where the love of God is the only mystery—where holiness and pure intel lect go hand in band; and the tear of gratitude—the only tear! May you and I, my dear Sir, and a ll th ose w ho are dear to us, be welcomed there, is the dying prayer of Your poor unfortunate but faithful servant, T. H. HOCKER. _ _ The Rev. Mr. Davis, Ordinary, April 26,18 Z: In the course of yesterday afternoon, the following letters, written by locker, and addressed to Mr. Sheriff Sidney, were politely handed to our reporter:— Sir,—For some time before you kft me this morning, I had resolved to remain entirely mute on the subject which so deeply interests my very life. But, fearing that I might have made a somewhat rash determination, I was glad of your offer to visit me again this afternoon. I have seriously considered your kind proposals again and agaic, and still the result is that I decline answering affirmatively. Believe me, Sir, if I felt disposed to repose confidence in any one, it would be yourself. The female who wrote the letter, which we have all read so attentively over, is the same person to whom I alluded in my statement at my trial. She has already taken a very material step in my favour, and a very welcome one in deed it is to me. lam now convinced that she will not suffer me to be sacrificed through her silence. It is in her power to clear me, and she will do it. I cannot do anything until she comes forward voluntarily. lam fully aware that by deferring such an all-important disclosure, I expose my.. self to the most imminent danger, and this I have felt through the whole of my misery, since the moment I was appre hended. Ido not understand why she should, at such a time as this, have occasion to go to Bristol. I cannot compre hend that part of her letter at all. My opinion is, that she will either make her appearance here, or write again to morrow, or Thursday. God grant she may—until she do one or the other, I shall be in the most agitated state of sus. pense.—l remain, Sir, your most grateful, and obedient ser vant, THOMAS 11. ROCKER. _ _ _ _ _ Mr. Sheriff Sidney, Ludgate-hill, Tuesday evening. The other was as-tollows—:— Honoured and dear Sir,—The knowledge of being per mitted to address you by letter I did not venture to antici pate, and such that I cannot half convey my sense of obliga tion to you. My condition is now a painful one indeed. The only prospect which this life at present holds out to me is immediate dissolution attended by the cruel exultation of an unsympathising mob, and every species of ignominy. I need not assure you that I feel my unhappy lot keenly—most keenly—though I may try to shut my eyes against the recurrence of former and happier scenes. My dear parents—my unfortunate brother and my friends, who still own me, will force themselves upon my remembrance, rendering my distress well nigh unsupportable. I am very far from wishing that any one should look upon my late strength of nerve as constitu tional, or acquired by callousness and obstinacy. No, no, my dear Sir, I never boasted the possession of a heart devoid of feeling for another's misfortune, much less for my own. I am condemned to die the death of a malefactor in accordance with the deliberate, and, I trust, conscientious decision of 12 of my countrymen. May they never have cause to reproach themselves with hastiness in-the discharge of so solemn a duty. lam perfectly resigned to my fate. I hope hot from stoic principles ; but from having seriously contemplated the really awful consequences of quitting this bitter scene unprepared for immortality. I pray that pardon may be awarded me on deep contrition and prostration of soul, for my past youthful imprudence and sinfulness. lam persuaded that unless the natural heart be broken, and renewed by Divine mercy, how ever noble and amiable it may be deemed by the world, it can never think of eternity without inwardly shuddering. Oh ! that the rock of ages may so fix my wavering and roving mind, in his love, compassion, and power, that I may see my own wickedness and depravity, and look upon him with faith and humility as my guide and Saviour. It is time that I draw to a close ; but before I conclude, suffer me for one moment to dwell on what perhaps ought to have formed the chief subject of this letter. While I was at Clerkenwell the very sound of " Newgate Prison" struck terror into me. I thought that when I should leave it, I might bid farewell to kindness, and honest, good-hearted men for ever. I found the officers there as so many exceptions to their general character. They treated me with the greatest consideration and kindness, and I shook hands with them all at parting with a heavy heart, while I listened to their good wishes for my happy success. l came hither expecting nothing but harshness. but how was I surprised to find that the same bene volent feelings which I had so lately met with were exercise& almost more fully, if possible, by every one who had to do with me here ; and now that I think of it, I cannot but mention the brotherly sympathy and attention of the man who is appointed my keeper, to whom 1 owe a heart full of thanks ; when I have been at times melan choly or unwell he has taken it as much to heart as though I were his devoted friend, indeed, lie is the companion and sharer of all my feelings—may he always have such a friend as he has been to me. But in justice to all connected with this place, I ought not to particularise, yet I must not for bear the names of Mr. Davis, Mr. Cope, and Mr. Wright. While writing of them, every grateful acknowledgment na turally follows. Last of all, though I may truly say the first in my thoughts is yourself, how can I speak to you as I feel —you have interested yourself in my misfortune in a manner that I know of no other title than that of father that is suited to you. Oh, may you never have the bitter experience of my poor father, but be rewarded with that peace of mind and tranquillity of conscience, which ever attend the Christian philanthropist, and may you ultimately come to that crown of glory which fadeth not away, of which I humbly hope to be a partaker.—Believe me, Sir, your most grateful and faithful servant, T. H. HOCKER. Mr. Sheriff Sidney. LOSS OF HER MAJESTY'S BRIG SKYLARK. (ANOTHER ACCOUNT.) WEYMOUTH, APRIL 26.—Yesterday morning between 11 and 12 o'clock, and during a thick fog, her Majesty's brig Skylark,from Plymouth to Portsmouth, with supernumeraries, struck on a reef of rocks in Weymouth Bay, known by the name of Kimmeridge Ledge. There was a slight breeze at the time from the S.E., but it soon after freshened. Several revenue cruisers went to her assistance; but as she struck within an hour of high tide, and the wind and sea increased, there were but little hopes entertained of her being floated off. Towards the evening the crew and supernumeraries were taken out and landed at Lulworth. During the night and throughout this day it has been blowing a moderate gale, with a heavy surf on the ledge; and the last account states that she is full of water, and must in all probability soon go to pieces. I have not heard of their being able to save any of the stores, &e. A schooner was seen to go down in the Portland race this forenoon ; all hands perished. Some fishing smacks have been as near to the wreck as it was safe to go : she is on her beam-ends, drifting about in the race. The smack Mary and Elizabeth, which went ashore in Portland Roads a few days since, with wind blowing strong from the S.E. has since gone to pieces. Had the proposed breakwater been built, this latter loss could not have taken place, as it would have afforded shelter from easterly gales, from which it is now so much exposed. LLOYD'S SHIPPING. LONDON, APRIL 28.—Wind southerly breeze, and cloudy. DEAL, Aram 27.—Wind W.S.W., fresh.—Arrd. Mary Gray, Storie, Valparaiso ; Agnes, Fox, Trinidad ; Chanticleer, Hoare, Jamaica. 27. Henrietta , Henderson , South Seas; Elisabeth Buckhann, Bowley, Launceston; Castle Eden, Reade, and Forfarshire, Symons, China; Agincourt, Nesbitt, Ellenborough, Close, Bucephalus, Bell, Southampton, Bowen, Florist, Huggup, Maria Somes, Baker, Bolton, and United, Bertrand, Calcutta; Malabar, Pixie, Bombay; Royal Albert, and Lotus, India; Thomas Blyth, Hay, Janet, and Kite, Ritchie, Mauritius; Zenobia, Owen, and John, Ichaboe; Betty, Val p araiso; Dorothea, Craig, Grenada; Prince Albert, Sebor, New York; her Majesty's ship Nauti lus, Portsmouth. Sld. Cambria, Quebec; Hannah, Mont real ; Boding, Bordeaux and Calcutta. Put back, Sir Chris topher Forbes, Honduras; and Lady Faversham, for Quebec. SHIELDS, APRIL 25.—Percival, Kay, Ichaboe. WHITEHAVEN, APRIL 24.—S1d. Ainsley, Quebec. SOUTHWOLD, APRIL. 25.—The Sarah and Ann, Tweddell, of this port, sailed from Newcastle prior to the late gale, and has not since been heard of. MARGATE, APRIL 27.—The New Holland, Parsons, from Alexandria, was in contact to-day in Pace Sand Hole with the Southampton from Calcutta, lost bowsprit, foremast, &c., became leaky, and was towed into the bay and run aground, where she remains, but is expected off this tide ; cargo dis charging. The Post Boy, from Lisbon, got on the Long Nore yesterday, but came off without assistance, and pro . ceeded. OFF NORTH FORLAND, APRIL 26 . —Ernst Gustav, Bre men, for the westward, with emigrants. LIVERPOOL, APRIL 26 AND 27.—Wind W.S.W., fresh.— Arrd. Pickwick, Cornish, Islay ; Barlow and John M'Lellan, Ichaboe ; Eliza Ann, Burns, Rio Grande ; •Unicorn, Tobasco Mentor, Angostura ; Cres cen t, A nt i gua ; Charles Kerr, Free man, Honduras ; Lochlebo, Taylor, Mobile ; Mersey, Tucker, Apalachicola; Aderondack, Europe, J. R. Skiddy, and Shef field, all New York, sailed Ist inst. ; Concord, Herald, and John, Ichaboe. 27. John Land and Lysander, China; An gelina, Gray, Singapore. Arrd. Bengal Merchant; John M'Vicar, 1114..e0d ; John Pauter, John Woodall, Williams, Mary! Hartley, Bartlett, Thomas Mellor, Palethorpe, and United, Calcutta; Thomas Whitney, Sumatra; London, Madras ; Earl Lonsdale, Mauritius ; G iquett and Cadet, Cape of Good Hope ' • Mary, Lloyd, and Prompt, Panjore, Ichaboe ; Ann, Wright, Sierra Leone; Jos. Porter, Fred. Huth, "%Yd. helmina, and Mary, Cousens, Africa ; Tera, Gay, Valparaiso; Homily, Rio Janeiro ; Envoy, M'Kattrick, New Orleans ; Rosalama, Buckley, Mobile ; Acadia, M'Kenzie, Savannah. LOSS OF THE ISABELLA, OF ABERDEEN. _ Advices were received at Lloyd's this morning from their agent, the British Vice-Consul at that port, informing them of the loss of the above ship. It appears that the barque Isabella, Captain Leask, of and from Aberdeen, in ballast. and bound to St. John's, New Brunswick, sprung a leak, which filled her full of water, and caused her to heel over on her beam ends, thus obliging the masts to be cut away to partially right her. In this perilous condition, having lost all their boats, and nearly all the fresh water and provisions which were stowed in the hold, they remained for seventeen days, keeping the jvessel afloat by the employment of buckets, their pumps being choked. Exhausted with continued fatigue and privation. and reduced for quenching their thirst to the only fresh water that fell from the clouds, they would inevitably have perished had not Providence sent to their relief the Spanish brig Trasmerano, Capt. Pole, who was bound from Haven nah to Santander, and having discovered them bore down upon them, and sending, .oats to the w r be k y re r c em olv ai board (seventeen ••••., berN whe re receiv ed them days, when th ;.- time they re. -• • tainan d d a h r i i s ng cre w w h th ici t s , ceded Chamberlain caused cards • g n e r P o aa n u t s i sh conduct. caSantander,P ey mo s st r to be issued on Saturday last for a state ball on Monday, tilt Mb o! neat month, at St. James's Palace.