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The odds—which, as soon Zr r • Ongley's King of the Gipsies, 3 yrs ut • Collect's Cattonite syrs T he fll • ' ' a,, 0 owing also started, but were not placed :—Mr morning were much increased on that eleven so soon- as it t r 'lTuls Hopbine, 3 yrs; Mr. J Day's Bubastes, 3 yrs; Mr. was intimated that Box was unable, in consequence of the nr,Dert's Joanna, 3 yrs; Mr. Davis's Jack, 5 yrs; and Mr. severe indisposition of his wife, to come up. Another player, The Miss Susan, 4 vrs. Good, was therefore substituted, we think with some want of 41 Le Two Years Old Strikes of 15 SON'S. each, with 25 added. judgment, because the Hants wicket keeper having been lost, Half a mile. an efficient representative in that place was required. The k J; Skerratt's Tottenham (Marlow) I player selected is not distinguished in that department of the • Hughes's Chevy Chase e lkM a ino_r's Birdswing ... 2 game, and the result of the match clearly proved that a mis -3 take had been made in the choice. In the prowess of the ._?....tellowing were not laced':—Lord Warwick's Gwalior, contest the want of a good wicket keeper was much felt, for ""a Mr. E Peel's General Nott. several wickets were lost in consequence of the absence T he Worcestershire Stakes of 20 sovs. each, 10 ft, and 5 only of that officer. The first innings was well fought for, If declared; the second to save his stakes; 501. added. whilst the Marylebone scared 118 their opponents made ~ Two miles. 90. In the second hands, h ow ever, the former completely ' 4 l ,erd Warwick's Yardley, 4 yrs ...(Denman) 1 ran away with the match. Everything was against 111 '. Ongley's Roderick, 5 yrs 2 the country eleven. The heavy rain of Monday after- Collett's Rory O'More, aged 3 noon caused the ground to be very heavy during the _The City Member's Plate of 501. Heats. Two m iles g reater part of Monday, so much so as to take out what is u tr. Collett 's Cattonite, 5 yrs (Marlow) 1 1 termed the " devil "of the bowling.. Sir F. Bathurst and Er. Pearce's Jack, 5 yrs 2 2 Day bowled beautifully, but for the reason just assigned their t r : . Most 's Miss Miggs, 4y rs J. Day's Bubastes, 3 yrs ~... 0 3 hits prove as effective as upon o rdinar y occasions. The Z.l 'lr. J. Smith's Go-forget-me, 4 yrs ... fore, reaped all the advantage arising from the heaviness of the round. They scored 118, of which Mr. Hartopp made 10, Ir. Haygarth 16, Dorrington 7, Mr. Kynaston 20 single runs—showing the operation of the ground, and such a hand, we should say, this gentleman never marked on any previous occasion, seeing that he is of the "slashing" class—Dean 13, Captain Freer 14, Hillyer 4, Mr. George 4, whilst there were 20 byes and 7 wides. Hampshire followed, and scored 90; of these Mr. Ward, whose presence in the match afforded universal gratification, made 3, Pilch 35, Bodle 12, Good 15, Mr. Keape 9, and Mr. Greenwood 6. There were 7 byes, and not any wide balls, the bowlers being Lillywhite and Hillyer, who never bowled so well. The. Marylebone, in the second innings, fetched 175, in the following manner—Mr. Hartopp 12, Captain Freer 11, Mr. Kynaston 12, Dorring ton 16, Mr. Haygarth 42, Dean 34, Hillyer 3, Mr. George 16, and Mr. Barker 9, added to which there were 15 byes and 3 wides. In the second hands of Hampshire 57 only were scored, the longest score being that .of Captain Freer, who marked 13 ; Sir F. Bathurst made 9, Pilch 9, Good 7, Mr. Ward I, Mr. Keate 4, Mr. Gale 3, Mr. Greenwood 4. The byes were 7. .The Marylebone, therefore, won by 140 runs. SAILING - MATCH. Tne river yachts mustered in great force on Wednesday at Greenwich, for the purpose of contending for the most costly prize that has been sailed for since the establishment of the club. The cup was a splendid silver gilt tankard of large dimensions, and exquisite workmanship, and for costliness, beauty of design, and execution, was immeasurably superior to the ill-designed Brummagem-looking cups which are ge nerally contested for by the yachts of the club. This elegant tankard was purchased some time past at Messrs. Mortimer and Hunt's, by Captain Cocksedge , one of the members of this liquid fraternity (people are getting tired of the word aquatic), and was by him presented to the club to be sailed for by yachts belonging to the squadron. The vessels slipped their moorings off Greenwich at about twenty minutes to: twelve, the competitors being the Gazelle of 25 tons, Thomas Rutherfoord, Esq. ; Mystery, 25, Lord Alfred Paget; Champion, 26, H. Gunston, Esq; Gnome, 25, T. Meeson,.Esq. ' • Enigma, 25, Josiah Wilkins o n , Es q . ; Phantotn, 20, A. 0. Wilkinson, Esq. The Phantom got a good start at the beginning, and was followed by the' Mys tery; whilst the other craft were all becalmed, and clustered together in most admired disorder, The boats drifted down Woolwich Reach, where the Phantom was obliged to let go her kedge, as, the tide was setting her on to the shore, and unfortunately the man in the bow, instead of taking a turn with the rope round a cleet, endeavoured to hold on, and let the warp go with the kedge. However, she went on •keeping the land until Halfway Reach, when the Mystery caught a light air of wind, and carried it up to the Phantom, which she passed to windward. In Erith Reach the Phantom luffed in to windward of the Mystery, and passed her, maintaining her position up to Coalhouse Point, where she rounded the buoy at forty-four minutes twenty seconds after four. The Mystery was barely half a minute a stern of her. The Enigma followed at fifty minutes ten seconds after four, the Gnome twenty-five seconds after, the Gazelle and Champion• hringing up the rear, all within six or seven minutes. As the boats hauled their wind the match increased in interest, and it was expaeted that t aus he well known capabilities of the Mys ter y , un d er the pices of Stokes's extraordinary skill, Would have enabled her to overhaul the Phantom , but t h is little vessel. kept the lead, and the Mystery did not appear to fore.reach, or weather on her in the least. At length, in Halfway Reaeh t Lord Alfred Paget carried away the jaws of his gaff, and he was consequently obliged to douse his topsail whilst two hands were sent aloft to splice the spar to the mast, and as soon es the damage was repaired, ha got a smaller topsail set; but meantime the little Pliantonl was bowl ing along, soaking well with the tide, and occasionally jam ming up into windward, and it now became evident that the redoubtable • iron Mystery ipust yield to her smaller wooden adversary, and accordingly, at twerity.five minutes past seven, aba rounded the buoy at Greenwich, amidst the joyful acclamations of the assembled multitude, for the fre quenters of the river still retain a lurking tendresse for the old-fashioned wooden vessels, and are glad to see a small boat of this class triumph over the most powerf ul iron y acht that has ever yet got under weigh. Lord Alfred Paget rounded. the buoy at twenty-nine minutes after seven, the Enigma followed several minutes after, then the Champion, then the Gnome and the Gazelle, but these four latter vessels were several minutes astern. N o twithstanding the great disadvantages under which the Mystery laboured from carrying away the jaws of bar gaff, it must be acknowledged that she was fairly . beaten by fair sailing—Lord Alfred Paget might have raised a protest against the cup being given to the Phantom, as that vessel had let go her anchor during the race, and had lost it, whereas by the laws of the club it is not allowed to any vessel, to throw anything overboord during the race. Lord Alfred, however, with excellent taste and a generosity which cannot fail to be appreciated, at once waived his claims, and refused to avail himself of what was unquestionably a valid objection. The cup was accordingly presented to Mr. Wil kinson by the munificent donor, Captain Cocksedge, and the yachts returned to their moorings. The next match will take place on the 25th. EXTENSIVE ROBBERIES.--Information has been re ceived at the metropolitan police offices that, on Saturday last, an extensive robbery was committed in, Minshull-street, Edge-hill, Liverpool, the property stolen consisting of a large silver cup, engraved on one side with a ship, and on the other an inscription, importing that the cup had been given by the underwriters at Lloyd's, to Captain George Lyon, of the fillip Favorite, for saving the ship and cargo in the river Delaware ; also six larde silver dinner forks, ten or twelve table spoons, dessert and tea spoons, sugar-tongs, sauce and cream ladles, two silver half-pint caps, arid various other articles. On Saturday the shop of Messrs. Perrin, of Temple Cloud, near Bristol, was broken into and robbed of a large quantity of silk handkerchiefs, shawls, black silk velvet, satin waistcoat pieces, apparel, hats, &c., and a quantity of copper coin. A reward of 201. has, been offered for the dis covery of the depredators. AMERICAN CLOCKS.—A novel species of clock.; have recently been introduced from the United States. These clocks are shaped something like hall-clocks, the principal novelty of them consisting of a sheet of plate or looking glass being fixed in the door under the face. These mirrors vary in' size from a few inches to two feet in length. On the first importations of the article, it seems that the officers at London and Liverpool, uncertain as to their correct deno mination, delivered them on payment of the duty as goods manufactured, at the ad valorem duty of twenty per cent. The matter has since been brought under the notice of the Beard of Customs, and they have directed that in every instance the ad valorem duty be charged on the clocks, with the addition of' the duty on the plate-glass of 4s. a foot. The importers have remonstrated, and have requested to be al lowed to scrape the silver off, which has been refused, and the parties informed that they can only be allowed to remove the glass and export the same. The importation of these clocks has lately been very considerable, a parcel arriving by almost every American vessel. Tan MACKEREL FISHERY.--Upwards of 100,000 mackerel have been landed on the Brighton beach since last Friday, which realised from lls. to 18s. per hundred, and were retailed in the streets at six to eight a shilling. The fish market at Brighton has been completely glutted with those dainties of the deep during the last fortnight. At the fifth annual meeting of the Shareholders of the Union Bank of London, held on Wednesday, a dividend of 5 per cent. was declared (free of income-tax) on the paid-up capital of the Company. The business of the Bank is satis • factorily progressing, the increase on current and deposit ac counts having been more than 60 per cent. respectively, corn pared with the state of affairs last year. The result of the operations for the year, after paying all charges of manage ment, disbursing dividends„and appropriating 500/ as usual in reduction of preliminary expenses, has enabled the Direc tors to add 3,468/, to the reserved fund, which is thus in. creased to 12,000/., invested in Government securities, be sides leaving a surplus of unappropriated profit of 7,000/. It appears the Directors have not considered it necessary to make any alteration in the rate of interest allowed to their customers on current accounts, notwithstanding the low value of money, because they are pi' opinion that the perma nent interests of the Shareholders will be best consulted by a strict adherence to those principles on which the Bank was founded, and which has secured for it so much public confi dence. The agency business of the Bank is stated to have most materially increased, and, under the new Government Ineaaare for the regulation of banking, it is expected this branch will further improve.— Times. SUICIDE AT ItICHWIND.---On Tuesday morning, between ten and eleven o'clock, a tradesman of Richmond and his wife were crossing the Twickenham meadows when they heard a splash, in the river, as if some person had junipeci lip the water. The sound came from the Surrey side, and apparentiy near to the Dake of Buccleuch's man sion. Whilst crossing the bridge the parties Wolfed about, but could see no person, either on the bank or in the water. They then proceeded to the police station, and stated the shove facts, when police-constable Hunt. 207 V, was dis atched to the spot. Drags were obtained from the White Cross Tiwepn i and used by some bargemen, who, after the lapse of a quarter Of an 1104 r, recovered the body of a young woman. The deceased was taken ta the White Cross Tavern, - ancillr, White, a surgeon, was sent for, but that gentleman, on hie arrival, declared life to have been extinct some time. The deceased was recognised as Elizabeth Holley, a single woman, twenty years of age, and obtaining her livelihood by shoe binding. She had been repeatedly heard to declare that she would drown herself. The body still lies at the White (kilo Tavern to await an, inquest. CoIiISEGRATIQZT pf NNW CHURCH AT TON- InuneF.—On Tuesday morning the l i nrd Biehop of Rochester consecrated a new church at lliidenbrough, a hamlet of Tun bridge, in the presence of a large number of clergymen and gentlemen, amongst whom were the Hon. and Rev. Sir Charles Hardinge, Bart., vicar of Tunbridge i the Hon. and .Rev. F. T. Noel, vicar of Teston, near Maidstone ; the Rev. 4, podd, rector of Rushurst ; Rev. A. C. Payler, rector of chi c ldingstpue ; Rev. T. Curteis, rector of Sevenpaks ; ReV. N, Harward, vicar' of deal ; Rev. G. Woodgate, vicar of Pambury I ReV, *UT& Polhill, Arglest Iligtenshaw, Her " 1 -it. M ay, Itionevponqy , and liacitoW i Colonel Aus- Arthur Vott, Esq., J. Lucas, Esq. The Ain, C. Dawson, church is dedicated i to St. ;... 1 7. the E vangelist. - inquiry which EXPLOSION AT BOLTON._ After lasted three days, the jury returned the folloiving " We are unanimously of opinion that the death of James Swift, Bridget Hart, and J. Macdonald, was, caused by an explosion of a steam boiler at Mr. Brook's null ; than the said boiler exploded from the pressure of the steam being too great ; and that George Branscombe has caused the explosion. We are also of opinion that due care has not been used in the general superintendence of the steam -engines and boilers." George Branscombe was thereupon committed to take - t his trial for manslaughter. .A subscription was entered into by the jury for the relief of the families of the deceased ; and the sum of 8/. 10s. was handed to ,the coroner, as the commence ment of a subscription for, that purpose. SUT*LieONDON, SATURrDAY MORNING, JULY' 13, 1844. Noble Friend's-notice, that - he. intended - to enter into:the I question of the Sinde territory, but he thought that his inquiry would relate solely to the question of the Pun- . j,itin. _He (the Earl of upon), however, would advert the whole of the topics which had been introduced by the Noble Marquis. • His Noble Friend had said that'he spoke entirely upon public rumour as to certain operations that were going on. Now, public rumour in this in stance, as was generally the case, had greatly exagge rated the truth: The rumour it appeared was, that an army of 80,000 men was collecting in the Punjaub for , the purpose of invading and conquering that country. He could tell his Noble Friend that this rumour was en tirely without foundation. He knew of no army being in existence in that part of the world, except that which was under the command of Sir C. Napier. With respect to our military force in the north-west, it was right, perhaps, that he should make a few remarks. It was perfectly well-known that within the last few years it had been deemed indiSpensably necessary that a large portion of the military force in the Presidency of Bengal should be concentrated in the north-west provinces. Everybody who was at all acquainted with India knew that that portion of our territory was most liable to sulden attack. It was, therefore, indispensably neces— sary at all times that it should be an object of care, and it would be obvious to everybody who considered for a moment the actual condition of the Punjaub, that that part of our territory ought not to be left without ade quate means of self-protection, particularly when it was recollected that that country immediately joined the Sutlej. It would be recollected, too, that the affairs of the Lahore settlement were administered by an indepen dent chief, who ruled remarkably well. That country was now very:flourishing, and cultivation, he understood, had greatly extended ; and this very circumstance was likely to prove a temptation to depredators. He said, therefore, that they were bound, in goo& faith to the Sikhs, and by principles of public policy and justice, to take care that our position in that quarter was secure. With this object, a force was maintained there by Lord Ellenborough and the Indian Government, and he (the Earl of gpon) could assure the House that neither the authorities in India nor at home had any wish or desire to obtain one inch of territory in that country. Their views were essentially pacific. Nobody could say, under the circumstances in which that country was placed, how soon it might be necessary to defend ourselves. or at least to defend those for whose defence the British army was supported. He trusted, however, that he had said sufficient to allay the fears his Noble Friend entertained. With respect to Sinde, his Noble Friend asked if he (the Earl of Ripon) .had heard the rumour _that it was intended to extend our territory still further beyond the banks of the Indus. He had never heard of such inten sure. The more ,he reflected on :the subject, the more Convinced was he.thit all that was wanted was to give and:bei►eficiai effect_ to the Act of 1819, and,tO secure that certainty which it was the object of this Bill to 'Mail'. Under these "circumstances, he trusted their Lordships Would. he wepared to go into Committee on the Bill.. ..... Lord -MO.Y.V.NGLE said he did 'not rise for the purpose of opposing this Bill; on the contrary, it was founded on principles which he had advocated on former occasions. He thought the Government deserved in finite credit for the manner in which they had carried forward this measure. What was more striking even than the courage of undertaking to legislate on such a question was the peculiar skill with which, by a con cession here 'and . an arrangement there, without any materialsleeiatien irons the principle on which this Bill was foundek , s , measure of. this description and mag nitude had been proposed , and carried through Parlia ment with the least amount of opposition ever offered, he believed, to wineasure of that nature. Nor could he help alluding to those high authorities from whom chiefly this measure had proceeded.—( Hear, hear.) He referred not to any Parliamentary authorities, except so far as those authorities were to be - found in evidence before the other House of Parliament ; but he alluded more especially to the calm, sound, and practical attention which had been given to this subject by such men as Mr. Loyd and others who had devoted their minds to this question.— (Hear, hear.) Whilst, however, he concurred in the general principles of this measure, there were some parts of it to which be could not give his consent. The Bill had been properly called a complement to the Act of 1819. There was in this country a class of persons who objected to it on that very account, and who, for that rea son, considered it likely to be productive of evil conse quences. It was unnecessary for him to go at length into the discussion of the point of difference, but he thought no one could hesitate to say that, after the events which occurred in 1797, and which were con tinued till the restoration of cash payments, it was the absolute duty of the Legislature to restore the coin to the state in which it had, previously been. He knew it was said, "Aye, it was right to restore a standard, but, in restoring the ancient standard of the country, you inflicted -a great wrong on the mass of the community." If they were to restore a standard at all, he conceived that they were limited to the ancient standard.—(Hear, hear.) They heard persons say, " What an injustice you inflict on the whole community by compelling them to pay in gold coin, at the Mint price, debts contracted in • paper, subject to a depre ciated currency." What an extraordinary fallacy was there in that statement.—(Hear, hear.) Did not every one who had considered the subject, know that although those debts might have been contracted in a depreciated currency, they were so contracted subject to the obliga tion of paying in the full standard at the period subse quent, to the restoration. There was no standard to which they could honestly revert, except the ancient one. Befers he quitted this part of the subject, he could not help saying, in reply to those who were against re striction, on account of its pressure upon the productive classes, that there never was a grosser delusion than the supposition that the productive classes of this country were interested in a continued depreciation of the stan dard. _ The natural effect was a rise of prices.—(Hear.) UltiMately, indeed, there might be a rise in wages, but it followed, at a long and painful interval, the rise of prices. In a depreciated currency they had an evil of the most portentous magnitude to all, but the evil pressed more severely on the labouring classes than upon any; other class in the community. On this subject, as on many others, they had of late made very considerable progress ; and they were enabled to discuss it with the aid of experience. Experience had shown that many remedies hitherto relied upon were altogether valueless. Between the year 1832 and the present time, the cur rency of this country had not been managed in away which was satisfactory to the public, safe to the Bank, or con ducive to the interest of the labouring classes. They were now called, upon to consider a new proposition; and they would be rash indeed, if they were to predicate the re sult. The experiment was one which the Government deserved, credit for making, for it was based on autho rity which fully justified its proposal ; but looking to the peculiar circumstances of the country, the state of the manufacturing interests, and its dependence on fo reign markets, and other matters, he could not agree with his Noble Friend that they were, by passing this Bill, laying the foundation of a perfectly safe and satis factory state of things. But if, after the passing of this Bill, there should still be periods of pressure and diffi culty in this country, he protested against the supposition that they were all to be attributed to the work ing of this measure.—(Hear, hear.) Now, a great deal of controversy had been carried on in reference to the principles upon which this Bill was founded. They were told by some that it was perfectly absurd to imagine that any issue of promissory notes payable on demand could act upon the exchanges, or upon prices? provided the paper was convertible, and that, therefore, the mechanism of this Bill was altogeth e r unnecessary . He could not, he confessed, adopt this theory. Would any man tell him that the doubling of the quantity of gold in the country would not have an effect upon priests. If that were the ease, surely the effect with regard to paper would be the same, if: that paper were convertible into gold. But this Bill was founded on the very oppo site theory, viz., that by regulating the paper currency —the promissory notes payable on demand—they regu lated all. He doubted whether there wore not other things besides promissory notes and metallic coin which acted upon the currency. He believed that bills of exchange and Bank cheques acted upon the cur rency—he believed that every ingenious commercial contrivance adapted for economising prices acted upon the currency. He wished to call the attention of the House to one branch of this species of currency, which was so entirely identical with promissory notes payable on demand, that it struck him as matter of snrprise, that it should have been altogether omitted front the Bill. If it were right to regulate and restrain the issue of promissory notes payable on demand, he would like to hear how the Noble . Earl would discri minate between an accepted post-bill at three or seven days' sight, accepted before it left the Bank, and put in circulation with a general indorsement, and a pro missory note payable on demand. He felt some anxiety on this subject, lest through an 'omission the provisions of the Bill should be ren dered a dead letter. The first symptom of weakness in the Irish banks was the substitution of bank post bills for promissory notes, to such an extent that the former Constituted one-third of the whole circulation. The Bill seemed to him to proceed too much on the fallacy that, by regulating promissory notes, they did everything that was required. The great merit of the measure was, he conceived, its app roxi mation to a single issue. The first effect of a restriction on the part of the Bank of England would be to raise the value of money; but that would induce other banks to issue more money, because the profit would be increased. On this point the Bank of England had been just as much to blame hitherto as the country banks. They had seen its discounts increase just at the time, and almost in the ratio, in which its.bullien was diminishing. In 1839 the amount of bullion was 8,300,0001. ; in 1840 it fell to 4,200,0001. The discounts in 1839 were 3,700,0001.; and in 1840, when the bullion had diminished nearly one half, the discounts had increased to 6,200,000/.--(Hear.) Mr. HorSley Palmer himself admitted the fact] that, at the period when the amount of bullion was diminish-. ing, and the pressure was most felt in the market, the greatest demand was made on the Bank for acoommoda tion. If the principle of the Bill was a good one, he did not think the proper means had been chosen for carrying it into effect. It had been his fate to be Chancellor of the Exchequer at a time of great pressure, and he had had no sreater difficulty in his adios than was occasioned by his interference with the issues. He should un doubtedly prefer to see the separation of banks of issue more completely carried out, The Noble Lord then read an extract from, a speech of Mr. Huskinson's, of which the - purport was, that the withdrawal of banks notes from circulation increased the pressure in a monetary crisis, instead of diminishine. it. He would next draw the attention of their Lordships to the fact that the harvests had considerable influence upon the currency. • He was very well pleased to see that in this Bill some consideration was given to that view, and that .tho depreciation of the silver standard was not overlooked. Gold was increasing much in quantity, and on the other hand, silver was becoming so scarce, that it might have a preference as a standard—if scarcity was to be the condition of a standard, then gold. There was one consequence of the Bill which he could not un derstand, namely, that if the Bank and the Government should agree to increase the issues, the Government should go shares in the profits. He was strongly op posed to any such arrangement. It would be small comfort to a man who 'found his means of purchasing necessaries curtailed by this Act, that it was a symboli cal system.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) The Noble Lord concluded by thanking their Lordships for their indulgent hearing, and assuring them that he had not trespassed upon them from any motive of personal ambi tion or mere vanity. - Lord ASHRURTON was saved some trouble by the speech of his Noble Friend who had just sat down. He musts however, dissent front the statements of his Noble Friend, that the principles of banking were less under stood in former times than now. It was of the highest importance to the morality of, the people _ to maintain a regard for the public credit, Every one who recollected the difficulty which the country had in returning to a metallic currency, would see the'fallacy of the Noble Lord's dogmas, which were de livered in a tone - of authority such as, to lead to the in-. ference that all other persons we:o idiots except his Noble Friend himself. The period of paper money extended over the years from 1797 to 1810, which was said to be a return tq the standard abandoned in 1797. But silver Wee fbrmerly the established legal tender of the country. Any man might take silver to the Mint to he coined. The Duke of WELLINGTON—OnIy up to a certain sgm, Lord ASHBURTON begged the Noble Duke's par don ; that was precisely the mistake that was generally entertained. In 1774, the Act of ['ornament first limited silver as a legal tender to e5l. ; but that only applied to the worn and depreciated coin of the realm, Any debt might be paid in silver at the usual rate of ss. 2d per ounce, They had lately seen a similar principle in operation in the Neo,tion of' payments 'in gold, if the coins were . beneath the proper weight. The of of 1774 was renewed in 1776, and again in 1783, when it was lost sight of, and was not again royivad till 1786. But in 1758, there was a real prohibition applied to pAyments in silver ; the issue of silver from the Mint was also stopped, on sto count of an alleged temporary reduction in the price of silver, and it was feared by Lord Liverpool that silver was becoming the substitute for gold. The re asons g i ve n by Lord Liverpool for tilia opinion were very unsatisfac tory. He said that a rich nation ought t o h ave a rich . and valuable standard, as if a than six f ee t i n h e i g ht wa s to be measured by a different stendard *cm the man of five feet!—(Hear s hews.) -Against this he placed the authority o.f Mfg -Lecke, who says that " Gold is not the cesqpnon money of the world, nor is it fit to ha so." -He t'19414 4 91 YM I4 e , t 9 thqkviitatlAcaltathatitondaxdr!r...to that tion having been entertained, and he could say that no such intention was entertained—(Bear, hear)—either by means of negotiation or anything else. It was perfectly true that in the neighbourhood of. Shikarpore incursions had recently been made by an armed body, and there could be no doubt that they had committed great cruel ties. But the number was small, and he trusted that measures had been, taken to prevent a recurrence of such a misfortune, and that means had been adopted by which the inhabitants would be protected, and confidence estab lished for the future. The last question his Noble Friend had . put to him, was whether her. Majesty's, Government would be prepared to lay before Parliament before the end of the session, detailed information as to the state of affiirs in Sinde, especially with respect to the revenue, and the power of meeting the expenditure of the country. Ile (the Earl of Ripon) was not pre pared to give his Noble Friend that assurance, although her Majesty's Government were certainly desirous of. giving ,every information 'they could upon the subject. But, he certainly was not prepared to say that they were in a condition to lay the information asked for on the table of the House. The Noble Marquis must, recollect the position of this country with respect to Sinde. Holding that country so recently, it would be premature to communicate any information respecting it, which, after all, might be imperfect, and, if imper fect not valuable. With respect to the revenue, he could only say that it had not evallei the expenditure, but then it must be remembered that they had been called upon to administer a perfectly new system, that was to say, a new system so far as conducting the affairs of that country upon just and reasonable principles was concerned, and in doing this they were obliged to incur considerable expense. Sickness had occurred; but it had occurred as much amongst the natives as others, and, from all he had heard, there was no reason to expect that that sickness would be of constant recurrence. There were very few parts of India in which, from time to time, sickness which was fearfully destructive did not occur. He believed he had now noticed the whole of the topics touched upon by, the Noble Marquis. BANK CHARTER. The Earl of RIPON then rose to move the order o: the day for going into Committee on the Bank Charter Bill; and in doing so he said he would briefly explain the grounds upon which this measure had been sub mitted to Parliament; and in doing this it would not be necessary for him to detain their Lordships at any length in discussing the principles of currency and banking, as that subject had frequently been under con sideration in their Lordships' House. It was, however, necessary for him to state to their Lordships, in the first instance, how it happened that this question was brought before them in the present year. In the last Charter Act provision was made that the Bank Charter might extend to the year 1855, but that after the expiration of the first ten years it might be competent to Parliament, after giving notice, to revise the regulations of that Act, if circumstances should occur to require it. It was quite clear, therefore, that Parliament, at the time they passed the last Act in 1833, did not consider that the provisions of that Act were so complete or so perfect as entirely to meet the object intenadiind they no doubt considered that grounds might arise, after experience had been ob tained, for the recommendation of the provisions of this Act. The proyisions of the law were, that notice should be given at the expiration of ten years if it should be thought expedient to make any change; but in case no such notice should be given, then the charter was to con tinue for the full 21 years. - When the period, therefore, arrived, it was competent for the Govern.ment to recon sider this question. They felt that there were many con siderations which rendered it desirable that -some step should be taken for the purpose of more completely car rying out the principles upon which the Act of 1819 was framed. When the last Act was proposed. many opi nions expressed in favour of a system still more ex clusive ts character, as regarded the power of the Bn than that Act was expected to be. at were ofin E nigland, Many persons expressed an opinion—amongst whom was'his Noble Friend, then Chancellor of the Exchequer (Lord Spencer)—in favour of one bank of issue in the country. Many persons went' the length of Saying that Government itself ought to be the bank ,of issue. But this opinion did not - appear to have been generally enter tained. He (the Ear iof Rip mi) thought this would have been a measure of very doubtful policy, if it would not have been a dangerous one. He thought there were con stitutional objections to it. He doubted very much whe ther, if the Government had that power, it would really, have the power of Tractically controlling, the currency so much'as this theory would suppose. He thought that there would be great risk in the Government proceeding from time to time to relax the screw upon the pressure of a supposed expediency. That view of the subject, therefore, having been rejected before, was certainly not adopted by her Majesty's present Government. But they certainly did think that, looking particularly, to the effect of the law both here and threu,ghout the country, they did think it was desirable that the Bank of England , not the sole—because, theoretically would e main be so—but the ain instrument for of creating a paper currency, and provid jug auikn for n tgp b , em i h paper, e e ittowants of the country. It appeared, and expe rience confirmed it, that the principle upon which the Act of 1819 was based, was not that of trusting everything to the convertibility of paper into gold, for it did not ap pear that that simple principle had the effect of prevent ing injurious fluctuation, as was shown in 1825, when the stock of bullion in the Bank of England was almost exhausted, and the credit of the Bank was only , saved by the sudden arrival at Dover of it quantity of sove reigns from the Continent. The Government felt that it was indispensably necessary that something should be done to prevent the tremendous evil of fluctuation. It appeared to them that the only safe rule upon which they could rely was the foreign exchan es. If they were against us, th e go ld must go out. he present measure was intended to prevent the evil of fluctuation, and he believed that it had met with general enproba• thin in all parts of the country. The plan of the mea sure was, in fact, to limit the circulation of the Bank of England in the firseplace, and to limit the , circulation of the country banks in the second. The limitation of the Bank of England they proposed to effect in this way —that they should be at liberty to issue notes to the amount of the securities which they held; and is exact pioportion to the bullion they might have in their coffers. In 'order to effect this the Bank would be di vided into two branchesone the bank of issue and the other the bank of deposit. The amount of issue, in the. first place, would be fourteen millions. It was quite ob vious that the sum of 'fourteen millions would be a very inadequate provision for the wants of the country ; and, therefore, it was provided that the. Bank of England should be obliged to issue notes for all gold bullion that might' be brought to them for that. purpose. Their Lordships would ,see how this stood at the pre sent mament. `At the present moment the actual issue of the Rink did not exceed twenty-four millions, 'so that if this scheme were now in force the actual issue woeltlbe fourteen millions on securities and seven millions quite; sixteen millions, so that their upon bullion. But the bullion which they now held was might, if they thought proper, extend o if ul n d ot see that, so far from limiting them to vz o r r y ch n h e i a p r s l nearly, 2thifttrssltoli they might, ; but he did net, mean to say that 'it would be desirable for them to do so. This mea sure proposed to limit the issue of country bans, but there' was nothing to prevent a country bankeesupposing it now---to prevent it from giving upthe issu ed pvil teegneo,asnodftiatks taking to the notes of the Bank of England. The country bank circulation would, there fore, pro tanto, be diminished, and power would be given to the Bank to issue another number of notes on securi ties, equal to about two-thirds of the paper that sholild be displaced. With respect to country banks, it was proposed to restrain new banks from issuing paper. He believed that no scheme could have been devised which would not have had some prejudicial' effect, and he be lieved that the limitation which had now been taken wa,,r, 'just and reasonable, and would answer the i - ,iapose for utt ount of currency ncttr.le der the provisions of this ch and a half, on an average' which three was hh r e mi e t mouths. iwagbhawas übdtr e in g circulation esi eightn T e d millions. he e T were under re provisions, in the Bill for securing periodical -returns of th e i ssues , an d these l returns would be made monthly. Thi s e- considered a very important part of the m easure. He had now stated the general provisions of this Bill. The,Government had been anxious to introduce as little of novelty as possible,thestandard Theymight hav e ra i se d a quest i on as to whether should be gold or silver, and pro posed various alterations which would h av e een palat able i n some quarters; but they did not think it would have been 02trdiellt tro lftrQduCe nQYQI49 4044 lileik; whichwas the old standard of England, that was to say, the 1 The Earl of RADNOR had, in 1819, opposed the re standard as taken before 1793, and before the tampering turn to the old standard, but having the standard now with the currency, either by the Act of 1797, or by fixed, and having gone through all the suffering, he Lord Liverpool. There might possibly be some degree theught it would be foolish to depart from it now. of equity, on a return to a state of peace, in making they were to have a joint standard of gold and silver` some allowance for the altered condition of money ; but every debtor would pay in the cheapest coin: If ecl at all events, it was unnecessary to determine on screw- pay a debt of 1001. by 961. ss. he need ldo so. would,, - ing the standard up, till the debtor was made to pay the in fact, be giving every debtor an opportunity _L.-beating creditor more than he was li a bl e t o i n th e year i n w hi c h h i s cre di tor, an the effect would be that t 1 creditor the Bank Restriction Act was passed. He contended w mid take precautions to defend by ncreasing _ .• that the debtor was entitled to acquit hi mse lf according the rate of interest. In France there was nu .1 it 4 van- to the ancient standard, either in one metal or the other. dard. The standard there was silver. If they had left him alone, and merely passed an Act j Lord ASHBURTON—GoId can always be pr i s siVeLLY allowing the country to go back to the standard that , at an agio. then existed, the consequence would have been this— I The Earl of RADNOR said that peovesl that silver that if he had owed the Noble Lord 100/, at that time, i was the standard, because if you wanted ;f old yeti must and the debt had continued up t o th e pr esen t moment, hey it. It was absurd for us to have a ,l ifr•ront standard he could, according to the present price of silver, have from all other countries, and he hal !lever heard any acquitted that debt for 911. 16s. Bd. This was a good reason for having the standard a poi 1 one. One proof that the return to cash payments did screw great object of the Bill was t o limit the circulation of up the standard. If there was an y c a se i n which paper. Now, according to his view, it was unnese to there should be a statute of limitation, it should be on li m i t t h e circulation—it was unwise to entrust any 'per - the subject of the currency ; they might as well go back 1 son with the power of doing so. The country weti!4l to the times of William 111. or Elizabeth, as go back I always provide fear itself the anmerit of eiretils nen it thirty years. On the question o f a s il ver currency , h e j wanted, and no more; and it was an aet of presinnetioe should state what had happ ene d d ur i ng p er i o d s o f great I —he did not use the word in an offensive sen eny difficulty and panic, su rh as the yea r f rom 1825 to 1826, person to art , mpt to limit the circulation. A geeat, but, known as the great bubble year. He perfectly concur- h e believed, an unfounded alarm, existed in ma ly Fates red with the opinion expressed by Mr. Huskisson at that of the country lest the circulation should be- so chilli time, that the inability of the Bank of England to right nished as to increase the price of core. He e thetight per itself in such difficult periods was greatly increased by feet convertibility would give perfect security teat no the inability of the Bank to use one of th e precious i more paper would be issued O. in was required, because metals, that one being the circulation of all the rest the moment any depreciation feel{ pi lee, it eveu'i , re of the world. When bills were taken up in Paris, Ham- turned to the issuers. Ile did not think th,t the Bank burgh, and Amsterdam, they were paid in silver. But of England and the country banker, were aim naile to the Bank of England having acquired that silver; was the reproach of having unnecessarily i;crete ed compelled to go and purchase gold with it, in order to their circulation. That increase had, in must make the settlement; and the relation between these two instances, arisen from circumstances over which metals, produced great differences in that which they had no control, and if they had fallen into those it was necessary to keep the most steady, the errors, and suffered from them, they were the less unit of value, the pound sterling, which, in this likely ti fall into them again. These difficulties had country, was composed of gold and paper, and mainly arisen from the corn laws. because whenever a every kind of circulation. He alluded to the great large impartation of corn took place un ler the present fluctuations in the business of the Bank of England, system, an immense quantity of bullion had to be ex that sometimes threw out money abundantly, and then ported to pay for it, thus affecting the course of the ex held it in by a check, discounting at 21 per cent. at changes. The Bank was then obliged to contr.' its cir one time, and at 6 per cent. at another, and con- culation, until prices were so reduced that goods were tended that it was useless to insist on the philosophical exported instead of coin. Now if articles of l uxury , argument that the difference between gold and s il ver such as wine and silk, had to be imported, the rise he was sometimes as little as 1 per cent. The consequence price would lessen the demand, but quite the contrary of the discussion on this subject which he had with Mr. was the case with regard to corn, because the dearer it Huskisson was the evidence which he (Lord Ashburton) was the more necessary it was to have it. and the more gave before the Committee, to the general tenor of necessity there was to send out gold. Mee. Jones Loyd which lie still adhered. He still thought the authority h a d fully explained this fact in his recent pamphl: ton of Mr. Huskisson was quite equal to that of Lord the subject. The Noble Lord had said that eueh would Liverpool, and he stated that, to make the pound be the case under any system of corn-laws. But suppose sterling fixed in value was a great mistake. There they had no system of corn-laws, but an entire free was an outcry in the country against paper trade. Would not that, by making corn a regular ar currency ; but, in a commercial nation, having tide of trade, remedy the evil. The fact was that such vast commercial dealings, having such an they were attempting to introduce a s lidi ng sca l e immense debt, that all the coin and all the bullion of for currency as well as for coin, and he thought that this the world collected together would not pay . it off—it measure would only increase their difficulties. It should, was necessary to deal largely by paper credit in various be recollected that, in general, there was a large amount shapes. The great object, undoubtedly, was to take care of deposits in the Bank. Now, when money we s rising that that paper answered the purpose for which it was in value, these depositors would demand their deposits issued; that what it promised to do should be honestly of course in bullion, which would still more increase the and exactly done, and that those promises to pay should diflicnities of the Bank. This was one of the mi- chiefs be met punctually. But the basis on which they were of attempting to do that by legislation which had best be issued ought to be made as broad as it could be. In- left alone. If they provided that no one should issue stead of taking one standard—a fanciful one, though notes without their beirg convertible into gold at the philosophically it might seem more certain—they im- option of the holders, they would obviate every diffi mensely increased the difficulties of a difficult period, as culty, and do all that was required. The Noble Earl the whole rested on an insufficient basis. What had concluded by eulogising the Scottish banking system. been done in the cases of the several crises which the which had given the greatest satisfaction, and beenro country had undergone, and of which they had great ductive of immense benefit. p varieties? The most formidable, was that of 1853 to Lord ASHBURTON explained. His argument about, 1826. There was another in the year 1837-1838, the corn-laws was this. He contended that there mist in consequence of the derangement of affairs in Ame- be times when we must be taken by surprise, and whererice. In the case of the panic of 1825 and 1826, it was an unexpectedly large demand for foreign cora must very well known that the Bank was almost reduced to arise, which would require a considerable effort to meet its last sovereign. It was just enabled to say that it did the demand for bullion which would arise in.consequence, not refuse any payment. But he remembered that on no state of the law could obviate that, teeiless they could one occasion the officials of the Bank were anxiously govern the seasons. If, for instance., we had produced watching the clock to ascertain if they had five minutes more sufficient for our own consumption for three or four years, to provide for. Mr. Richards, the Governor of the Bank, and then had a bad harvest, a erisis, such as the one to , stated himself' that they were likely to be run dry ; yet, which he had alluded would arise. during the whole of that time the Bank had silver i n its The Bill then passed through Committee. possession, and was at that moment in treaty with Mr. The Sudbury Disfranchi semen t Bill was rea d a second Rothschild to exchange that silver into gold, in which time. the Bank was to make its payments. That silver Mr. The Bills on the table were then f orwar d e d a stage, Rothschild was enabled to put into circulation abroad ; and the House adjourned. and it was stated in evidence before the House of Com mons that the financier made somewhere about 100,0001. by his patriotic • exertions in helping the Bank of England out of its difficulties. (Hear, hear.) In 1836 and 1837, what was the condition of the Bank ? It was saved from failing by the Bank of France. Now, if they had sustained two such crises in times of pro found peace, what difficulties might they not expect if they should ever be plunged again into a state of war ? That consideration induced him to state his belief, that two years of an expensive war could not be gone through without returning to the measures adopted in 1797. It should be remembered that, throughout the rest of the world, both gold and silver were convertible into each other, and were both equally available for the purposes of circulation, without the consequence of one driving the other out of it. Throughout the whole of the Continent, the two metals were found circula ting in harmony with each other ; but if he were compelled to make a choice of one of the two he should prefer silver, He should take it on the broad principle, that it was most important to be in con formity, in the nutter of currency, with the rest of the world. It was a great desideratum to have the broadest possible base for the currency of the country. He should trouble their Lordships no longer on that question, but should confine himself to three words on the new prin ciple established by the Bank Charter Act. He agreed with his Noble Friend, that the first part of this Bill— separating the Bank into two departments —was wholly useless in operation. It might be a harmless regula tion, but in fact, it was a mere delusion on parties not acquainted with the practical management of the Bank. The present issue of the Bank and the management of the debt were divided into half a dozen depart ments, all distinct from each other, and whatever Act was passed it would be the same. The Bill stated that the Bank should only issue 14,000,0001 on its own account, and then to the extent of its bullion. The Go vernment provision of the Act was the limitation of the circulation, and it contemplated the gradual stopping of all the issues of the country banks. Now, if that limita- 1 tion was desirable, he acknowledged that the thing was w ell, and carefully, and judiciously done. The Bill had certainly conciliated the country bankers, as it had se cured them a monopoly of business for the present. If they acknowledged the thing to be right in itself, he must admit that it could not have been more cleverly managed, With regard to the check on the issue of . th: e Bank of England, undoubtedly the Bank had occaseon ally been a great offender in the matter of its issues ; but he apprehended, after all, that this Bill, w as an ex periment, and its working might not tune out so perfect as was expected. The limitation of 'the Bank of Eng land was, first to 14,000,0004 on its own paper, and then it might issue to the amount of its specie. That specie amounted to something like 16,000,000!., which, with the '14,000,000/ of circulation it was allowed, woif i d bring the whole amount of its possible circulati o n to about 30,000,000/—the real issue of the Benit being between 20,000,0001 and 21,000,000/. Thus the law would have no immediate operation at all. The Bank had a large margin of 9,000,0001 or 10,000,0001, which would prevent the restriction from having any immediate effiset. The check on the Batik might operate as some check on the exportation of gold; but, for the home circulation, the Bank might be drained of every sovereign without a pound going out of the country. At the end of 1825, what took place ? It was then proved that the demand for gold might arise from circumstances which could not be cor rected by the reduction of the issues. Saturday, the 17th of December, 1825, was the critical day to the Bank of England to which he had referred. The lowest return the Bank of England made of its cir culation was about 10,000,000/ The difficulty cor rected itself before the Monday morning following, but the relief was entirely owing to Mr. Rothschild. From the 10th of December to the 17th they increased the circulation from 18,000,000/ to 24,000,000!., from the 17th to the 24th they further increased it to 25,206,0001., and on the 31st of December, the last day of the year, they had increased it to 25,709,000/, They had un doubtedly begun, like timid men, who stood in awe of the responsibility which they were incurring, but they went on boldly, and that issue of bank. notes saved the circulation of the country. Mr. Tooke, who was a phi losopher of the same school with Mr. Lloyd— The Marquis of CLANRICARDE—No, no ; he is quite opposed to him. Lord ASHBUR roN was happy to have such an authority on his side, Mr. Tooke had stated that that was a bold measure, but a most successful one. One word as to the effects of the corn-laws on the circulation. Whatever might be the system of corn-laws, if, after depending for two or three seasons on the home supply, we should, in consequence of the bad harvest, be com pelled to import corn suddenly and largely from abroad, there would undoubtedly be a large demand for bullion, and they must run this risk under any system of corn laws. Otte word as to the indiscretion which was charged against country bankers ; tie believed that those who thought to manage the, issues by the Bill would find it a more difficult joie than they expected. The great reproach which was made against Mr. Stuckey and the country bankers was that they issued their notes without reference to the foreign exchanges. He had known Mr. Stuckey many years. H was a most intelligent man, and perfectly understood what he was about. He thought the framers of Islas Bill deceived themselves in reproaching the bankers with inattention to the foreign exchanges. The slightest fraction—a difference of one-eighth per cent. might cause gold to go out of the country, and the same difference might occa sion it to come back. If the country bankers followed these minute fluctuations they would be grossly mis taken in their calculations. Their issues must be guided by the state of their neighbourhood. He looked at this Bill as no party matter. He believed it was originally a Whig scheme, and he had voted pretty steadily with his friends while he was with them. But in all matters relating to the trade or commerce of the country; .he ?bad honestly considered the pro positions,...tuid. voted without any view to party i nteres t s . In the event -of country banks sus pending their issues the Bank of England might increase its issues in proportion, and the profit of such issues were to go to the Government ; but how that profit was to be calculated, he confessed he was at a loss to understand. The Government might be trusted with power to check the increase in the circulation, but they ought not to be under the temptation, or to have the power of extending it. In time of war, Government was always pressing the Rank for advances. In 1797 it was not the Bank which got itself into difficulties, but it was the Government pressing the Bank. That pressure from the Treasury was fatal to the independen c e of the Bank, It was nev er safe to give the Government an extending power over the issuesa of the Bank. This was a great experiment. It had been favourably received by the public., and be hued it would be stleoessibl. HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 12. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. ',Mr. PLUMPTRE presented two petitions for the better observance of the Lord's-day, also a petition in favour of church extension. ' / ~.. Mr. GROGAN presented a petition respecting the Irish jury list. Mr. ESCOTT presented a petition from the Southern Division of Hants, in favour of the existing corn-laws. Viscount PALMERSTON presented a petition from the engravers of London in favour of art-unions, and complaining of the neglect with which a former petition presented by them had been treated. GREAT SOUTHERN AND WESTERN RAILWAY (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion for further proceeding with this Bilk on the third reading, Colonel RAWDON complained that there was n clause in the Bill which interfered with the vested rig;its of Colonel Fitzgibbon. He moved that this clauf,e' be expunged. Lord ELIOT said the clause only applied to money deposited in the Court of Chancery by enig railway company under the standing orders of that House. The fees of Colonel Fitzgibbon were only taken upon money paid into the Court of Chancery by suitors in the Court,, and therefore he (Lord Eliot) apprehended that the clause ought to stand. _ After — a few words from Lord G. Somerset. Lord Eliot, and the Solicitor-General, the amend ;lent was withdrawn, and the Bill was read a th '..rd time and passed. _ GREENWICH PAP K: Mr. AGLIONBY said he had which he trusted wo u ld rece d petition to present, ' Noble Lord at the h ea d of .ve the attention of the was signed by a number -the Woods and Forests. It of persons residing, or having property close to Gr eenwich Park, and the value of which materially d_ , . epenueu upon the view into that beau tiful locality. ihe petitioners statrd that they would not have Pre-oumed to approach the H ouse u p on t hi s subject if r e ablic benefit was not coneerneit in it to quite as grea l ".. an extent as private interest. The Park, by one means or another, had been constantly diminishing, air :lL they prayed that a stop might at once be put to any Further encroachments. POOR-LAW., Mr. FERRAND presented five petitions from town ships in the West Riding of Yorkshire against the poor-law. NOTICE OF MOTION. Mr. WAWN gave notice that, on Monlax next, he should put a question to the First Lord of the Admiralty to ascertain (as we understood the Hou. Gentleman) whether English ships were manned with a strength equal to that of ships in the Russian navy. LAND-TAX RETURNS. Dr. BOWRING moved for certain returns connected with the land-tax.—Agreed to. MAYNOOTH GRANT. Sir G. CLERK gave notice that he should in Corn mittee of Supply, this day week, move the education grant for this college. - Mr. BRIGHT moved for returns of the number of murders and attempts at murder which had been com mitted in the county of Tipperary ; the number of in dictments which had, been preferred on those charges ; the number of true bills which had been returned by Ow grand jury, and the results ; showing the uumner of acquittals and convictions, and the punishments inflicted during the last ten years.—Agreed to. SALARY TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE MID- DLESEX SESSIONS. Sir C. NAPIER wished to ask the Right Hon. Gen tleman, the Secretary of State for the Home Department, if it was his intention during the present session to in troduce a Bill giving a salary to tide Chairman of the Middlesex Sessions. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he had . a measure on the subject of the administraV on of criminal justice in the county of Middlesex ; and in the Bill there was a provision for the appointment of a paid magistrate to preside over the admiiii•stration of criminal justice. THE LATE WILL FORGERY CASES. It will be in the recollection of the readers of The Sun that Le inserted two several declarations which had been volun ily made by Fletcher, after the embarkation of hiinself and Barber on board the Agincourt, convict ship, for the penal settlements in Norfolk Island, in which Fletcher declared the I nnocence of Barber in any guilty knowledge or participa- Stu of the forgeries which hal been committed. In The ~^clun of Thursday we also published a letter sent by the con t" Barber himself, immediately preparatory to the sailing of _the ves s el o n Monday. On Thursday, Mr. Peckham, Bar °e'en attorney, received the following document, which has "In forwarded to Sir James Graham, the Home Secretary : " I, William Sanders, now under sentence of transportation ":4' seven years, and about to leave my country, and desirous of reiterating all my former statements of my firm belief and l!otiviction of the complete innocence of William Henry Bar of any participation or guilty knowledge whatever of the late. transactions in which I or my wife, Lydia Sanders, were !° ll cerned, or that he received one farthing more than his pro fessional remuneration. " William Henry Barber was an utter stranger to me, until i ntroduced to him by Joshua Fletcher as Thomas Hunt; nor did I after see him, or have any subsequent communication "fiat him until my examination at the Mansion-house. " I make this declaration from an unfeigned desire of doing Illti2e justice that in my power lies to one whom I have been tlintraniental in placing in a position of the horrors of which am now too painfully acquainted. "W. SANDERS, " Ship Lord Auckland, off Woolwich, July 9, 1834." "Signed and declared in my presence, this 9 th day of Jul y , 4 44 , on board the Lord Auckland. "JOHN J. LANCASTER, " Surgeon Superintendent." GRAVESEND. The immense number of people frequenting Gravesend "ring the low fares, Uay be judged from the' following statement :- 11411 Thui OF PASSENGERS LANDED AND EMBARKED AT THE TERRACE AND TOWN PIERS, GRAVESEND, IN THE HON= OF JUNE, 1844. TERRACE TOWN PIER. PIER. Star Company, with 5 boats 100,916 ,uunuondCompany, with 6 boats ,— 95,444 Vackwall Company, with 3 boats ,sons of Thames Company, with 2 boats — 91, 356 4 .ag,,, le Company, with 2 boats _ I l .647 ~k The Company, with 2 boats ...... 8,374 8, 6 k-- 7 Lae Corporation Tug - 96 186,589 145,150 ,„errace iePirer, with 9 boats... 'Own P, with 11 boats and the Corporation Tug 145,150 Balance in favour of the Terrace Pier, during the month of June 41,439 • Gross Number of Passenger 5..... - , r , • Of which o and from Blackwell 209,571 40 and from Hungerford Market 1 Waterloo-bridge Old Swan ... 122,161 London-bridge - and other places through the P 001... J _ 331,739 WINDSOR, WEDNESDAY EVENING.--- The accouche -4,4 eat of our beloved Sovereign is expected to take place at veryearly period, and every necessary preparation for the v"Pteious event has been made accordingly. Her Majesty i o a s extremely desirous of remaining in London some days ~Ager, in order that the trade of the metropolis might not ',uer from the absence of the Court, but her Majesty's me dical advisers were urgent that the journey to Windsor should not be further delayed. C Q!logn e ulcw. TRAVELLING.—(Extract of' a letter dated Monday evening, July B.)—The rapidity of travel "ug between this place and London is now wonderful in the e xtreme. I le ft the Tower yesterday at eleven o'cloc k, and ere I actually am on the second evening at Cologn e on the ' t hine; there has besides been nothing like " hot haste " in the matter ; on the contrary, everything has been done quietly and comfortably. You are aware that I embarked on board the steamer Antwerpen, having been assured at the orifice in London that we should arrive at Antwerp on Mon es: morning in ample time for the railway train for Cologne. This promise was repeated to me on board by the comman ,der, Captain Jackson, and I certainly was not misled. We landed before eight o'clock, and all Of our passengers who wished to do so, and they were certainly almost the whole (including many persons of high rank), got away by the train, and reached Cologne with me, after about thirty hours' travelling. Who would have believed this even ten years ago ? LINCOLN'S INN, JULY 11.—At twelve o'clock this day the Courts of Chancery were honoured with a visit by. the Nabob of Surat, attended by his suite. The Nabob pro ceeded, firstly, to the Vice-Chaucellor of England's Court, and, then to the Court of the Lord Chancellor, attended by , a " lr ge body of individuals who had speedily assembled to make notepersonal inspection of " a very good-looking fellow," as of the young barristers termed his Asiatic Highness— certainly▪ che is a princely-looking personage, and his features het very fine cast. Upon the Nabob approaching the vritk u, the Lord Chancellor rose and exchanged salutations h2,_ him, and he continued with his suite seated on the ilr Ua a considerable time. At the time the Prince entered t he Lord Chancellor's Court, Mr. Dyce Sombre's " business . fps"" Under discussion, and however interesting "strange • the in that case were toe rather crowded court, the visit Indian Prince Was more so, judicial equanimity was disturbed, the whole bar simultaneously "moved," even seats Were mounted by short personages, the ushers " hushed" in Vaal, and the Nabob, in fact, continued in possession of the Court till his departure, when business again proceeded in its Usual dull ,;end monotonous course. EXTRAOROXN ART gTEAM-BOAT EXPEDITION.—FIVO w ee, ago Messrs. pitchburn and Mare, the iron steam- boat t" "ciers et Blackwall, at whose manufactory eight of those fast iron steamers, called Waterman, were made, received an order to build another steamer for the Watermen's Steam Packet Company without delay, and entered into an engage- Neat to complete her ready for the conveyance of passengers in live weeks. The plans and drawings were at once made by Diteliburn and Mare's draughtsmen, the keel laid down, 'Ganders, shipwrights, joiners, carpenters, and others set to " Pr erk4 and on Saterdey evening last, at half-past five o'clock -- four weeks and four days only after the order was given and the ke4l prepared, the new steamer, which is called Waterman No. 12, was launched, and conveyed to Deptford to have her enguses and machinery fitted in her. Messrs. I'eun and Son, of Greenwleb, having, in the same space of t ,,, i zne, made and finished two Oseillating engines, of sixteen "°"&e power each, with boilers and machinery. At ten Minute s before five o'clock on Monday evening, and twenty four hours before the expiration of the five weeks, the steam !iras up for the first time, and away started the ves se l down n 'ne river at a tremendous speed, to the surprise of every one. she is capable of carrying 050 passengers in safety, and is a very handsome vessel a her gja.ss. The engines are very neat and turned out in perfect style, and in a way that re fleets great credit on Messrs. Penn and Bon who have fitted no less than 100 of our river steamers. Waterman No. 12 641 4 A tn4nces running between Woolw ich, Greanwich, and the Pier 10-day. The fare to Greenwich has been reduced to 44., in consequence of the low p ri c e char g ed b y in▪ e Gravesend stesaissers. T HE E EEIHI TIOV fist WESTMINSTER HALL.—The success which has attended the exhibition of the works of 4 9 .41pture and specimens of fresco paintings recently opened itusireetininster Hall, has far exceeded the most sanguine e z ions of the Commissioners, to whom the public are ladebted for it, and affords satisfactory proof of a growing taste for the fine s.yte among the people generally. During the first week of Ake exhibition being thrown open the Weather was extremely nny'svourable, notwithstanding which ft/4 hall was never so poorly 410 as during the same period . 41 1 , the eertoon exhibition fast year, The attendance since m , onday last has been still more numerous, ajld the result ▪ ga4er fftremely satisfactory. On Wednesday his Royal Highness pro4*. Albert presided, for the last time this . oeason, at a meeting ce Commissioners at Gwydyr House, 011 which occasion some •iipfssftant arrangements in con- LeXien with the subject of fine arts %vele unanimously agreed to. Without professing to be minutely accurate with regard to t hese arrangements, which in all probability will eeme be fLore the public the an official form before many days, it may be be stated that the C ommissioners had judged it ri ght, after a carefulexamination of the spegimens of fresco painting sent in for exhilslaim, by the various 4Ffists, to select six indi viduals from wag the whole num - ha, and enoomission them t o commence works on given subjects immetliaLely, The e uramissioners, however, unwilling to confine the practice of -the art to a few hands, have unanimously agreed to invite the competition of other artists not inoluded among the six fle,kae . „, ted individuals, under conditions which are not yet finally err* k ed on. The names of the six artists have Bat yet zailspi,reck, 44 they will no doubt be mad e known in the 4 .7, ani e of a few days : • The exhibition will be t hrown o p en t o •'-e Public gratuitously 4,4 11,on4ay next. „ Th rIIE WESTMINaTEIt 101“1-1414tc HOSPITAL:-. annual general meeting of the governors en 4 friends of 1 " 41 e Akticire charity took place on Thursday in the bnar4 ,4 0 01 13 of the hospital at Charing-cross. His Grace the Duke of Bieht ' 40 941 was antipanced to preside ; but in the unavoidable eh , • a cne()flag Grac fl e, of.e. ollond, one of the Vice-Presidents , was tailed to the ~cheih The secretary read the report, which stated the gross receipts for the past year to be 672/. 13s. 10d., and the expenditure 6811. 1 6 s. 9 d., leaving the Instiii;tion in debt to the amount of 14/. 140. Id. The - ffttitial report showed that during the year 1843 the insdeor lei, h 44 been 151, and the out.tioor patients 3,73 8 , ' deNg t,04 4 1. 8 f0.9 ; of these, one operation was for ex • te 'Patlon of the eye, 41 r e f :ataract, and seven for 'ln trti' .: 11 Pupil. Of the 81 e p em tip o.l ".: cataract 76 were toms p!t4ly successful, two partially so, en d :Lree failed from t i ,',Priinlation. The seven operations for artiflolel pupil were Pplrecti, Since' the . Ibundation of the hospital 02,224 Is3lO nt4 had participated in its benefits, of which number cases of cataract had been successfully treated. The ti report having been adepted a list of subscriptions were read, El thanks - bet d the • • separated. rig passe to chairman, the meeting CA N PTAI WARNER'S INVISIBLE SHELL.—The • lo wing7sir isaneXtract of a letter read at Ll o yd' s y es t er day : m requested by Captain Warner to a cqu aint you, for the i informationa of t he subscribers in ge n e ra l, th a t an ex - Periment of his invisible shell against a ship will take place off Brighton on Saturday next, the 13th inst. between t welve and one o ' c l oc k.-1 am , & c . , (Signed) T °W Dolisoni Esq.-Lloyd's." " G. L. BRITTFS. 11APEIttAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, - July 12. Their Lordships assembled at Fire o'clock.: Several petitions were presented against the Dis senters' Chapels Bill. • GAMING. The Duke of RICHMOND took that opportunity of stating to the Noble Lord opposite (the Earl of Radnor), that the Committee on the subject of gaming had de sired him to inform the Noble Lord that the evidence given by Mr. Russell before that Committee, had been supplied to the individual who was Chairman of the Committee on Gaming in the other House of Parliament. The Fad of RADNOR said the evidence might have been supplied to-an individual member of the House, but it could not have beea supplied to the Chairman of the Committee, as that Commitiee had notbeen in existence since the 20th of May last. He thought that the whole of the proceedings • were unfair, and that the evidence had been made an unfair use of. The Marquis of NOR AANBY said that the Noble Lord who spoke last had entirely misapprehended the state of the case. The conduct of his Noble Friend on the cross benches (the Duke of Richmond) had been influenced only by the most unimpeachable motives. — (Hear.) There was one point to which he would advert before he sat down. He had found it reported in a newspaper, which he held in his hand, that a very gross charge was made in another place upon the character and conduct of his Noble Friend. That attack must have been made by a. young Member of the other House. 'Vne speech was reported in these words:—" I say that there is presumptive proof of a conspiracy between the promoters of the Bill in'this House and the Chairman of the Committee in another lieuse."—(Hear, hear.) He (Lord Normanby) : had frequently had the misfortune to differ from his Noble Friend, but no one who knew his Noble Friend could doubt the integrity of his motives. Such a charge could only be made by a very young Member of Parliament.. The Earl of RADNOR knew nothing of what bad been said in the other I louse of Parliament on this sub ject. He only rose to state his opinion, that as the evi dence was printed only for the use of the members of the Committee, a very Unfair use had been made of it. The Duke of RICLIMOND said that complaint had been made that -the individual &hided to had had no means of refuting the statements which had been made. before the Committee, and the evidence had been placed in the hands of the individual in the other House who had taken up the defence of the other individual. When he had undertaken to act as chairman of that Committee he was aware that if he did his ditty and made a searching inquiry he should expose himself to attacks from men who gained their living by plundering the public. He did not care for their abuse, and he did not think it worth his while to answer their statements. He cared not whether attacks of this nature were made in the House of Commons or elsewhere ; he stood upon his character. He knew that when young and zealous Members first entered Parliament, they •were apt, in consequence of the novelty of the situation in which they found themselves placed, to take up what they' considered cases of hardship without making that proper inquiry which older Members Were in the habit of making. He would recommend these young men, before they attacked others , not to impute lightly to those whom they attacked motives by which they would not themselves be actuated under similar circumstances. Lord MONTEAGLE, as a member of the Committee, was willing to share the responsibility with the Noble Duke, who had completely vindicated himself from any charges which might have been brought against him. He was not aware of what had taken place elsewhere, but he knew that the Hon. Gentleman to whom allu sion had been made was the last person in the world who would avail himself of his privileges as a Member of Parliament to cast reflections upon any man. , Lord CAMPBELL considered the Noble Duke had completely vindicated himself, as he had expected; but it was very natural that a Member of the other House should be surprised at finding that the evidence which had been taken before their Lordships' Committee had been communicated to other persons, for it was contrary to the standing orders of the House of Commons to communicate the evidence .which was given before Select Committees of that House until it should be reported. He was not aware of what had passed in the other House, and had been anticipated by the Noble Lord who had preceded him in the vindica tion of the Hon. Member to whom the Noble Duke had alluded. There was not, he believed, a Member in the House of Commons who was more respected than that Hon. Gentleman was by bath sides of the House. He was regarded and esteemed as one of the most rising men in that House, and would eventually become one of the moat trusted representatives of the people. Messengers from the Commons brought up certain Bills. OPENING LETTERS AT THE POST-OFFICE. The Earl of RADNOR presented a petition from Mr. Mazzini, who stated that he was apprehensive that cer tain accusations were to be brought against him before a Committee of that House. He said that he was an exile. having deliberately given up his home and the comforts of his home, and having received sympathy and hospi tality in this country ; and he felt that he was entitled to such sympathy so long as he did not violate the laws of the country which had received him as a guest. He had for some time past received letters from persons to whom he was unknown ; from which letters it would appear to a stranger that he (Mr. Mazzini) was a co conspirator with' the writer of those letters. He therefore prayed that if any accusations should be brought against him, he might be allowed to rebut them before the Committee. The NOBLE EARL gave notice that he should move on Monday that the petition be referred to the Select Com mittee on opening Post letters. The DUKE of BUCCLEUGH laid on the table the first report on the sanatory condition of the people. The Marquis of NORM A.NBY postponed his motion on this subject from Tuesday next to Tuesday week. BANK CHARTER. BILL. Lord STRADBROKE presented a petition against thtTßank Charter Bill. - The Marquis of SALISBURY presented a petition from an individual named Payton, complaining, that in compliance with the wishes of a Committee of the House he had expended 4,250!. in experiments, with a view to , supplying the metropolis with water, and that he had received no remuneration. The. Duke of BUCCLEUCII said that he could not find that any authorised order had been given to this gentleman by the Committee. Lord REDESDALE said that, when the Commit tee was proposed, he opposed the appointment ; and he was by no means pleased to find now, at the end of four years, that his own judgment was confirmed. He did not think that the Committee had any authority to employ this gentleman, nor did he think that that gentleman had any claim. After a few words from Lord RADNOR, in explana tion, the conversation dropped, and the petition was laid on the table: DISSENTERS' CHAPELS BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented petitions from various places in favour of the Commons Amend ments to the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. • BANK CHARTER. The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL presented a petitio n from - the Society for the Emancipation of Industry, signed by Mr. Spottiswoode, their chairman, against the Bank Charter Bill. He would read the petition if their Lordships would permit him.-.-(Cries of " No, no," and laughter.) He would, however, read the prayer of the petition, which was that they might be suffered to be heard before a Select Committee, to prove the truth of their allegations, and to pray that the Bill might not receive the sanction of their Lordships. The allega tions which they sought to prove were, that the Bill of 1819, of which this was the sequence, had taken from the poorer classes 30,000,0004 annually ; and that the effect of the Bank Charter Bill would be so to increase pauperism, as to deprive the wealthy of the benefit of low price.—The petition was ordered to lie upon the table. AFFAIRS OF THE PUNJAUB. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE wished to put a question to the Noble Earl opposite on the subject of Indian affairs, which had recently, in consequence of the increased rapidity of communication with this cowl. try, .attracted more attention than they bad hitherto done. It was generally understood that a large army was collected on the western frontier of our Indian terri tory. bordering on the Punjaub; that Sir Charles Napier was to take the command of that army; and that tho Governor-General was about to leave Calcutta for the purpose of watching its operations. Now, it was. impossible to forget the results of the last operations of an army of observation commanded by the same gallant officer, and superintended by the Governor-General. Ile did not wish to make any further allusions to, a matter on which their Lordships had agret d to suspend their judgment, but he wished to ask whether the friendly relations which hal hitherto subsisted between the Go vernment of Lahore and the Government of British India still continued, and whether there was any rea-. son to apprehend hostilities from that Government, or from any of the other inhabitants of the Sikh country? In the newly acquired territory of Sinde, the state of affairs was such as to warrant great anxiety. Sir Napier had thought it necessary to call together a meet ing of the Beloochee Chiefs. He was not asking the Go vernment to tell them directly what were the instructions thachad been , given to Sir C. Napier as to the negotia tions he was conducting. But they should naturally be very glad of any information the Government could give them, and the more so, because it. had been rumoured that there was a desire on the part of the Indian Govern ment to extend their territorial possessions beyond the banks of the Indus and the Sutlej.. He was not going into the policy of the occupation of Sinde, but it ap peared that the Indian Government had entertained the idea of passing beyond the banks of the Indus, although - the best authorities had laid it down that we ought not to seek to extend our territorial possessions beyond them. Be wished.to know whether Sir C. Napier had been instructed to acquire, by negotiation or otherwise, any addition to their territorial possessions on the banks of the Indus or the Sutlej. Sir Charles Napier had conquered the province of Sinde with five thousand men, but to keep it he required a force of 16,000 men, in consequence of its disturbed state, the natives being less secure now than under a less liowerful Government. He was not about to question the whole policy, but it was a grave matter, and one that did require the consi deration of Parliament. He hoped before the close of the sesion some information would be given to enable them to judge of the real state of Sinde. The expense 01 4 '. military establishment of India fell indirectly on this country. taut the expenses were not the only evil, for there had been great loss of life. He thought that Parliament ought not to piwate wi091,4t.f01l informa tion being laid before it upon the subject. He wlsh6d, therefore, to ask whether the Government would b@ able to lay before Parliament, during the present session, any statement of the financial affairs of Rinde, and also of the amount of revenue the East India Company de rived from that country ? Wig) Earl of 4IPON had nos ant!cirated from' his BRAZIL. Mr. M. GIBS'JN wished — to put a questio- , to the Right Hon. Bproriet at the head of her Majesty's Go. vernment utlon a matter of some importance. Informa tion had reached this country that the Brazilian Govern ment had prepared a new tariff for adoption after the 10th. of November next, proposing a touch higher rate of duty on articles of British manufacture than existed at 'present. He wished to know from the Right Hen. Baronet whether he had reason to believe that such a tariff would be adopted and was already prepared by the Brazilian Government. Sir R. PEEL said that he had seen in the public papers a statement to the effect of that made by the Hon. Member. Imaiediately upon seeing it, he applied to the Foreign-office for the purpose of knowing whe ther such infc, - anation had been received, and he had been informed that it had not. Perhaps by the next. mail he might be prepared to give some answer to the 9113tion. Mr. MILNER GIBSON, wished to know whether the Government had had any correspondence with the Dutch Government relative to the importation of sugar from Java, and whether they had any objection to lay that correspondence before the House. Sir R. PEEL said that her Majesty's Government were in correspondence wita the Dutch Government upon the subject, and also upon the differential duties ; but he was not in a condition to place that correspondence before the House. LAW OF SETTLEMENT. Mr. LIDDELL wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary of State for the HomeTher,art ment, whether he was prepared with a Bill to ameaa the law of settlement this session. Sir J. GRAHAM said that a Bill had been prepared on the subject, which was ready for introduction. He would ask leave to bring in the Bill during the present session, and it could be considered during the recess. ACCIDENT AT BOLTON. Mr. FERRAND wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment, whether he would lay the evidence taken at the coroner's inquest, in the case of the persons who were killed at Bolton, on the table of the House. Sir J. GRAHAM said he had considered the subject to which the lion. Meinber adverted. He observed that the verdict of the jury was one of manslaughter. The notes taken would be transmitted to the Judge of A.,size, before whom the case would ultimately come, so that, in point of tact, he doubted of the possibility of the House to compel a result of this description. He must say he did not think it consistent with the ends of justice, be fore the party was put on his trial, that the notes taken for the judge should be laid on the table of the House, and made matter of debate there.--(Hear.) t~