The Sun. — London, England, 1844-01-25 00:00:00

SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FRO3I" TINA EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. GLOBE.—The Irish State trials proceedings of Monday are before us. With the exception of Saturday's—the whole of which were occupied by the evidence of that most imaginative wit ness, Jr. Jackson, the Morning Herald's veri table correspondent—the proceedings of Monday were the most stale, fiat, and unprofitable for the purposes of the prosecution (and this is saying a good deal) of any of the preceding days. The pro prietor of the Morning Herald receives anything but commendation from the Dublin Tory journals for his anxious solicitude on behalf of the Government. Whether the break down of the witness he sup plied has caused the Tory organs to treat his fond concern with such cold, insulting comment, we know not. There may be, and possibly is, a general feeling, that to hand a confidential agent over to the Crown Solicitor, and to forward letters to this officer which had been written under the seal of such confidence, without once consulting or communicating with the writer—just as though he had been " a horse, a dog, or a mule," are acts which reflect discredit on the en tire press ; and are therefore visited, as they deserve to be, with reprobation. The following allusions by the Dublin Mail to the Morning Herald's "supply in aid," are anythingbut complimentary to the obsequious journal Mr. Jackson, a reporter connected with the Morning Herald, was put upon the table to verify sundry reports transmitted by him to London. It appears that. the manuscripts forwarded by Mr. Jackson to the Herald office, were placed in the hands of the Crown Solicitor, by the proprietor of that journal, without the knowledge of Mr. Jackson. On a cross-examination, it was made to appear that several of the reports were mere com pilations from the Dublin morning papers, and con sequently Mr. Jackson's evidence was rendered nugatory." This witness was evidently regarded as one of the main props of the prosecution. His de ployable " break down" was therefore felt to be a serious and most untoward event, which could not be counteracted. Mr. Jackson was to have proved all the matters—the sayings and doings with which the, indictment charges the traversers in connexion with the Corn Exchange meetings of the Repeal Association. The following are the dire forebodings of failure to the prosecution, resulting from Mr. Jackson's short comings, which the Dublin Mail utters on this sad mishap :—" We know not to what extent this lache may affect the indict ment with respect to certain transactions of the Corn Exchange Association; but we cannot refrain from censuring the culpable carelessness which left so im portant a portion of the case to the accidental care or negligence of any chance reporter whose notes might turn up. The Government of Lord Grey was far more vigilant in this respect, and when the occasion of watchfulness arose, two Government reporters were officially attached to the Association of the day, with its collateral meetings." The witnesses examined on Monday have proved nothing which—taken in its fair and legitimate connec tion with what had been previously sworn to— can in any way serve the prosecution. Not a single circumstance had occurred at any of the later " mon ster meetings," which had not marked those of the earlier dates. Criminal negligence, on the part of the Government, is proved beyond question, if it be assumed that the public peace has been perilled by them ; while, if they be regarded as mere public demon strations of a general dissatisfaction in the people with their condition, and a vague hope that by a repeal of the Act of Legislative Union of the two countries that condition would be improved ; they determining . to seek, by constitutional means, the attainment o that object—lawful in itself, though chimerical in t the highest degree, as a remedy for their social griev ances ; we can scarcely conceive of anything more impolitic. For the Government to imagine that such a state of feeling, in such a people, could be allayed by first spreading an immense military force over the peaceable country, i*itil every district in it wears the appearance of a military depot, and the whole as though it were held in its subjection to the British Crown by the presence of an army of occupation— was a scheme so &alight with folly, and so pregnant with all the elements of real danger, as to justify the worst apprehensions for the peace of the country it was designed, we suppose, to protect and pre serve. One of the witnesses for the prosecution—Mr. M'Namara, a short-hand writer employed on the part of the Government to attend the Tullamore meeting herd on the 16th of July, examined on Monday— was asked, in cross-examination, whether he knew be was going to the meeting to take a note of the proceedings for the purpose of being used on any prosecution ? The answer is worthy of note. It seemed to take the counsel for the Crown perfectly by surprise ; and produced, as it well might, a hearty laugh at their expense from the Bar and the audience :—" On my oath I did not. I thought, after so many meetings had passed over where the very same language was used, and the same pro ceedings had taken place, that no notice would have been taken of that meeting in particular.." It is now pretty evident that the Crown lawyers are beginning to wish these proceedings at an end. The "shine " has been taken out of the vain boastings of the Attorney-General in his opening speech. A more lame and impotent conclusion never followed promises so boldly made, and predictions so confidently uttered. The proceedings on the trial will be published, of course. The "mountain in labour" would be an apt frontispiece to the book, and " Parturiunt montes, nascitur ridiculus mus" t► Et motto for its title-page. In the prospect of de feat, the Tory organs seek consolation in the Royal speech at the opening of Parliament, which the Ali nisturs are now laboriously engaged in concocting for Tie occasion. STANDARD.—The proceedings in the Irish Court of Queen's Bench were resumed on Monday morning, the Court having overruled an objection taken by one of the counsel for the traversers, to the effect that the trial should not proceed in the absence, through illness, of Mr. Justice Burton. The At torney-General proposed to read part of a docu ment Aeved on Saturday by the printer, enti tled, " A Plan for the renewed action of the Irish Parliament." Mr. O'Connell insisted upon the whole being read, which was accordingly done. It contained a list of the constituencies to be created, with the number of members for each, and some other regulations respecting the Irish Legisla lature, subsequent to the attainment of Repeal. " The Rules to be observed by Arbitrators," were then read. They comprised very minute instructions for the conduct of the Arbitration Courts. The " Report of a Sub-Committee of the Repeal Asso ciation," recommending that such persons as refused to obey the awards of the arbitrators should be ex pelled, was next put in evidence, after some opposi tion from Mr. O'Connell. Thomas Packer, a lithographic artist, late in the employment of • Mr. Holbrooke, lithographer to the Repeal As sociation, was then examined. He proved the en graving of two descriptions of cards, and a docu ment entitled " the diploma of a repeal warden," for the Repeal Association. The cards were those referred to in the opening speech of the Attorney- General. The evilness stated that he designed the portraits in the borders. They represented Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Flood, Owen Roe O'Neill (a leader of the Roman Catholics in the merciless war ihre carried on under pretence of favouring the monarchy in 1641-5), Brian Boroihme, and Allan Fodlum (an apocryphal character celebrated in the Irish annals as a lawgiver). This likeness the witnesA sketched from his imagination, as he did that of the rebel Hugh O'` Bale. There were also por traits of General SaarAeld and " King Daltran." The designing and engraving of these cards were carried on under the inspection of four of the tra verser'. 'The cross-examination of these witnesses elicited nothing material. Isaac Gardner, a writing engraver, John Annesley, a lithographer, and Joseph Annesley, a printer, proved the printing of the cards, a% well as of the " deed of submission,' and " award of arbitrators." The latter documents were, after sortie opposition by the traversers' counsel, read to the Court. John Uhck Macnamara, a short-hand writer, eonnected with an Irish provincial newspaper, stated that he was present at a repeal meeting, attended by Mr. (.7Connell, at Tullamore, on the 16th July, and took notes of the proceedings. He read to the-Court fhe addstLises -of three Roman Catholic, priests, Plinagan, 4ain, and Kearney, and a portion of the speech of Mr. O'Connell. Ihe witness also de scribed fhe banners displayed on the occasion, one of which bore the motto "Ireland and her Parliament, or the World in a Blaze." He was cross-examined at greot length, and stat e d th a t he h a d been employed to take notes of the meeting by a stipendiary magistrate, but had not been yet paid. During the examination of this witness the Attorney-General informed the Court that two of the traversers (understood to be Mr. O'Connell and his n) had loft the precincts o f the Court , that them although he was di s p ose d to give every reasonable liberty during th e trial ;* ehme not permit them to attend mee ti ngs elsewhere , cou ld con sequently, if they did- not r e t urn immediately he would entreat their recognisances. Mr. O'Connell, who hato , :been attending a meeting of the Repeal AtAociation., shortly afterwards entered the Court. John Simpson Stewart, a sub-inspector of constabulary, gave evidence respecting the Tullamore meeting, in corroboration of that of the last witness. Mr. Neill Browne, a stipendiary magistrate, gave testimony to the same effect. James Johnson, a hep.d-constable, was next examined respect ing lik" 'meeting held at. Longford on the 29th of May. He 'took notes, which he read, of the st;eecti of Mr. O'Connell, and proved that banners were exhibited bearing such mottoes as "A population of nine millions is too great, to be dragged at the tail of any other nation," &c. IVith the cross-examination of this witness the p's6ceedings terminated. We observe with regret "tOltatement to the effect that (placards have been posted in Dublin of a most atrocious character, denouncing Mr. Hughes, one of the witnesses for the Crown, as " a spy and an in former." Every person who knows anythin; of the feelings of the lower Irish must be awar that to use these epithets respecting any individual, is to make him the victim of gross insult, if not of assas sination ; but the miscreants who are guilty of such a proceeding as posting these placards, ad lying to their other iniquities. Mr. Hughes gave his evidence in a most ingenuous and honest manner. At all the meetings he was known and declared to be taking notes for the Government. His testimony bore, with out the least injury, a searching cross-examination, and in no one particular is the slightest impropriety attributable to his conduct. FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. CHRONICLE.—What is called the Anti-League movement appears really to get on a little, and, sin gularly enough, its progress seems to give entire sa tisfaction to the Government journals. It is true that the oratory of the Anti-League meetings consists, generally, of abuse of the League, and abuse of the Government, in about equal portions ; but the advo cates of Ministers are willing to wink at much that is disagreeable, in the hope that the new agitation may counterbalance and check the League, which has grown too strong for the Government to cope with. We are happy to see the encouragement thus given to organisation and discussion amongst the farmers ; for we are satisfied that agricultural combinations, even in favour of protection, will ultimately contri bute hardly less than the League itself to the triumph of free trade. In the first place every one of these meetings helps to damage the Government. Look at the Conservative dinner at Buckingham, of which we published a report yesterday, and at which even the presence of Sir Thomas Fremantle, Member for the borough, could not suppress the expressions of distrust and discontent with regard to Ministers. Mr. Pigott, indeed, felt it decent to propose their healths, but prefaced the toast with a speech, in which, after hinting that the honour of making such a proposition was not sought, but thrust upon him, he brought forward a number of reasons why no man who cared a rush for the agricultural interests should join in his pledge. He suggested that Sir Thomas Fremantle should speak for the Government; but Sir Thomas's modesty—a feeling not injured in his case by over exercise—came to his aid, and saved him from the task. Mr. Dayrell, who followed him, was not to be deterred by the defencelessness of the Cabinet from giving them a tart lecture on the Ca nada Corn Bill, and other similar misdeeds. In the same spirit, at the Northampton meeting of Monday, Lord Southampton declared, amidst the cheers of the auditory, that the Ministers ought to be made to declare themselves, and that all further shuffling ought to be out of the question. The next advan tage of these agricultural meetings is, that they ex hibit the advocates of protection in the most absurd and ridiculous light. As long as the squires re main silent, and rely upon the mere vis inertice of the class, they can oppose a very formidable resistance to any movement ; but when they get up meetings, and form societies, and, above all, make speeches, they are putting the rope about their own necks. Monopoly is bad enough with the best defence that can be made for it, but it becomes in tolerably absurd in the hands of such an advocate as Lord Orkney, who figured at the Buckingham dinner. Lord Orkney gave a deplorable picture of the west of Scotland, which was desolated by the tariff. Foreign cheese, let in by faithless Sir Robert, had ruined that once prosperous region. It happens, however, unfortunately for Lord Orkney's argument, that foreign cheese is one of the few articles on which the duty was not reduced by the new tariff. Another proof, according to the Noble Lord, of the injury done to the agricultural interest by free trade was, that the tariff made meat dear; and so it is, he added, with a felicitous illustration of the principle, "if you change the uniform of a regiment, it is ex pensive. Changes are always expensive." Then, passing from logic to invective, he atta c k e d the League—the standing topic in all the " pro tection" speeches—for want of charity. " They won't Five a subscription," said he, "to relieve distress ; but only kick up a bobbery about the corn-laws, and then see how quickly the 5001. came down." Sir Charles Knightley, in Northampton, evinces a familiarity with language equally choice. He calls the Leaguers "ragamuffins," and enlarges upon the resemblance between them and a " scratched pack of hounds." The reverend speakers who take part in these meetings lean rather to deliberate calumny than to foul-mouthed abuse. We find, within a few days, two of them—one named Fisher, at Newport Pagnel, and the other named Lichfield, at Northampton—coolly charging the League with incendiarism. It is notable that if a peculiarly shocking and unchristian imputation is made on any of these occasions, it is sure to come from some poli tical parson. Others may use weapons as sharp ; but they like to add a touch of poison. But the speeches of all these agitators, whether they be silly or malicious, will only excite the minds of the farmers to lditional reflection, and increase that feeling of uneasiness which will lead, at no distant period, to a settlement on which all can rely. And this brings us to the greatest benefit which, as we think, the agricultural agitation will help to confer on the country. Public men will be com pelled to declare themselves. Ministerial shuffling will soon become impossible. Farmers and Leaguers will agree in insisting upon a plain straightforward answer to the question, "Is the present corn-law to be maintained or not ?" The more farmers are in duced to reflection, the clearer and stronger will their conviction become that security is the main point. They will see that with no corn-law, or a bad corn law, they may be prosperous • but that with a corn law which no Minister will bind himself to, and no man in his senses ensure for a twelvemonth, the thing is wholly impossible. From both sides of the House, therefore we expect that Sir Robert Peel will be told, "We want to know the permanent policy of the Government, not its general intention, or what it will do or refrain from doing during the present session. Tell us, therefore, frankly, whe ther you will uphold this corn-law or not ?" A Minister who knew his own mind, and who knew that the agricultural interest was in a fever of anxiety, could not hesitate a moment in such a case. If he were satisfied that the present protection ought to be maintained, he would at once say, " I have revised the corn-law, and placed it on what I think a good footing. It may have some defects, but I will not cast into the lottery of , legislation' fJr another which may have as many. I will not, for the sake of minor improvements, keep alive the ap prehensions of indefinite change. I will abide by the corn-law of 1842, and stake the Government upon its continuance." This would be not only manly and honest, but even statesmanlike in a Minister who was really favourable to protection. But no such declara tion will be made. The paltry evasions which sig nalised the commencement of last session will, we verily believe, be repeated next week. We should not by any means regret, however, to find ourselves mistaken in this respect. A bold and honest decla ration by Sir Robert Peel, that he would stand by the corn-law, would recover in some degree the character he has lost, but it would also simplify the the business of getting rid of both law and Minister together. TIMES.—The Buckinghamshire Conservatives have dined and spoken. The speeches were a various in flavour as the dishes. Sir T. Fremantle, who repre sented Ministers on the occasion, may report that their censure seasoned the curry, and their praise_ iced the champagne. But it is not to the general po litical aspect of the, dinner, nor to its bearings on the present state of parties, that we wish to advert. Our attention has been drawn to a seemingly unimportant passage in the speech of a Mr. Pigott. This gentle man, in proposing " the health of her Majesty's Mi nisters," diverged from the hacknied road of Minis terial eulogy, not only into something very like con demnation and suspicion, but also into the suggestion of certain plans, the relevancy of which to the sub ject-matter of his speech can only be explained by the association of ideas. He had alluded to the Anti- Corn-law League, and had expressed his satisfaction that the " lion of England had roused itself and shaken its mane." But in the next sentence—at least in the next reported sentence—he seems to entertain a serious doubt whether the aforesaid lion had really aroused itself in earnest, and whether the shaking of the mane was likely to frighten the objects of its wrath ; for, by a rhetorical figure, which skips over two terms of a proposition at once, he jumps at once to an inference : " There are one or two points on which I wish to add a few words. In the first place, there must be an alteration of the law of settle ment; for the manufacturers, after having drawn the agricultural population into the towns, are now threatening to turn them, unfitted any longer for agricultural pursuits, back again upon the country, and thus swamp the agricultural interest." So there must be a new law of settlement, must there ? The country gentlemen are now beginni ng to find that out. And the poor are to be ejecte d from the factories, wherein they have grown old, feeble, and worthless, and turned adrift upon their own hamlets by the task-masters they can no longer serve. It is a hard case, involving much suffering, and no small oppression. It is indeed enough to make any man exclaim, "Alter the law of settlement:' But stop a moment, gentlemen, stop a moment. You complain of the rural population having been seduced by the allurements of speculating manufacturers into a course of employment which, at its termination, left them destitute, infirm, to have enjo yed firin, th a e nd a fruits boufrthdeeirn labour those hourm. who the season of unimpaired vigour. We agree with you that it is an o pp ress i ve burden to support ot t hose a the decline of life f rom w h om you never labour in their pri me . B ut h ow stands t he case ? ay l s the burden which you b ear , or are apprehensive Of bearing, oppressive though it be, wholly unmerited ? Or is it not rather of your own imposition? Let us see. You complain of the manufacturers having se duced the rural population into the towns. Has this been the case universally, or even generally ? Recollect yourselves, and answer this question as best you may—Have not the agricultural poor been tricked by the misrepresentations of their natural protectors into a migration contrary to their wishes, and duped into a drudgery uncongenial to their habits ? Have not landowners and farmers con spired to clear the land of its superfluous population, and carted whole families into the factory districts of the north? Have not fraud and falsehood been too often employed to swell the mass of spinners and weavers from the ranks of a credulous peasantry ? We beg leave to offer the following' extract from a Manchester paper, quoted in the House of Commons on the 24th of February, 1843 : " Yesterday afternoon, shortly before the sitting magistrates at the New Bailey left the Court, a case of extraordinary novelty and hard ship was brought before them. Two healthy, fresh-countenanced, but somewhat emaciated agricultural labourers, presented them selves in the witness-box, whilst at the extremity of the Court were ranged in view of the magistrates 16 individuals, one of them a female, about 30, with two infants in arms, eight children, ap parently all of them under 10 years of age, and three whose ages might be from 13 to 16 years, two of them girls, and the third a boy. There were two others whom we did not see, making up a party of 18. One.of the men stated that they came from Tower sky, in Buckinghamshire. The farmers, he said, called a meeting to know if any of the parishioners would go down to Manchester, as everybody there was doing well. Several of us said we would go. They told us that they thought our families would do well to oome down. They said there would be houses for us to go into when we got there, and everything provided for our use. They employed a man named Clark to see after people who would go down, and we went to him. He asked what families we had got, and said we - should do well indeed to come. We started accordingly to Mr. Waterhouse's, at Glossop. In answer to questions, the man said, six of the children whom the magistrate saw belonged to him, and two were his brother's. The other man said, two of the rest were his own, and four belonged to another person; but he had promised to -take charge of them to bring them down, and do the best for them he could. The first speaker then continued his story We were brought,' he said, ' from our own county to Glossop in a boat, and from Glossop Mr. Waterhouse sent us forward in a cart. When we got there, there were 43 of us. We were put in a bit of a warehouse, and I have been there with my family three weeks lying on a bit of straw, which is the only bed I have had. The parish,' he said, in answer to questions, ' paid the expenses of our journey down. We went by the boat to Marple, where they told us there was to be a cart to meet us, and take us forward to Mr. Waterhouse's. We did not know to what person in Glossop we were coming when we left our own parish. We were sent from our own parish to Codrington, where we met with a gentleman named William Clark. We travelled nearly forty miles, partly in a wag gon, to the boat to where we embarked. Clark came back with us to the boat, and when we had embarked he told us that we were going to Mr. Waterhouse's at Glossop. Two other families came with us. I cannot tell whether Mr. Waterhouse had desired our overseer to send any hands. I worked at Mr. Waterhouse's three weeks, but yesterday he hired a cart, and sent us in it to Manches ter. The carter put us down in the street, and left us. Ile has sent another cart-load this morning. I have seen them in town, and he would have senlithem yesterday, but the cart would not hold us all ; so he told one of the women he would send them this morning in his own cart. I don't know what has become of them. I saw them in town this morning, and they said they were going to the boat. We two (the men) are farmers, and the children are lacemakers ; we were in work at the time we left Buckinghamshire.' " And this piece of flagrant imposition upon the credulity of poor and ignorant men, women, and children, was enacted in the very county where we hear these indignant denunciations of the seductive charms by which the manufacturers have allured the peasantry into their mills, only to return them, worn out and starving, upon their native villages. We know not which to admire most, the senseless policy which first prompted the fraud, or the convenient misstatement which now falsifies its authors. But, at all events, " 'tis sport to see the engineer hoist with his own petard." We have for years denounced and deplored the suicidal infatuation which signalised the conduct of the landed gentry in legislating for, or rather against, the poor. Our predictions are being fulfilled. The enemy is at the gate. The an cient territorial lords are assailed by a force, conspi cuous neither for its gallant bearing, its chivalrous gait, its high courage, nor its resources. Perseverance, energy, and money it has ; but not more than many other confederations. And perhaps it is more defi cient than any previous political association in- one important weapon of political warfare—we mean the sympathy of the lowest classes. And yet it advances, slowly indeed, but not without show of growing strength; and the position of the assailed becomes daily more perilous. Why is this ? Because, al though the feelings of the poor are not with the League, still they are not with the League's enemies. They stand neutral in a contest wherein their active and hearty co-operation might have turned the battle as they listed. The foul juggle between the upper and the middle classes has frozen the heart of the poor into stubborn indifference. They look upon the conflict between the landlords and cotton-lords, mut tering moodily, " A plague on both your houses," and—they bide their time. History may be ran sacked in vain for a parallel to the wretched infatua tion by which the ancient aristocracy of the realm flung the cards of the political game from their hands. They might have retained a reserve-corps of stal worth and vigorous dependents ; but they preferred selling them for the most sordid purpose . into the power of their. joint and inveterate enemies—men whose hatred of ancestral wealth is only equalled by their oppression of indigence, and now they wonder that they are themselves helpless in the day of need. POST.—Mr. Muntz, as will be seen by the letter from him, which we publish in another column, re turns to - the defence of his position, that a reform of our money laws would enable the agriculturists of Great Britain to dispense with a stringent corn-law. Mr. Muntz observes that the Post has "repeatedly admitted that an abstract corn-law cannot alone protect even the landed interest." Such, undoubt edly, has been the doctrine of the Post. Let that doctrine, - however, be fairly understood. We have contended that the agriculturists of Great Britain require a twofold protection. They require a law re strictive, or prohibitive, of the importation of those commodities which British industry is able to pro duce. They require, moreover, another law supple mentary to the former—a law protective of the wages of British labour. British agriculturists require, in short, to be directly protected from the rivalry of fo reign corn growers ; they require, at the same time, the benefit of protection, indirectly, in the persons of their best customers. It is possible to conceive a corn-law that shall be effective in securing the exclu sion of foreign grain from our markets. It is possi ble to conceive the establishment in England, at the same time, of a system of '-production, under the in fluence of which the value of manual labour shall be perpetually lessening. The best corn-law imagin able will, in such circumstances be, to a great extent, neutralised by those causes which abase the English labourer's condition. A stringent corn-law appears to us an indispensable portion of an effectiye system of protection. An effective system of protection, again, must be based on the axiom that " labour is the source of all wealth ;" but unlike the system which our " Liberal" economists recommend, a system that is truly protective of labour, must regard the enhance ment of the labourer's reward as the only sure evidence of the prosperity of the community. Our " Liberal " economists babble about " wealth," as de rived exclusively from "labour," and then lend themselves to every scheme for robbing the labourer of a fair measure of reward—the pretext being a desire to increase the national wealth. Laws directly protective of British labour seem to us, in short, the most sure and comprehensive basis of British corn-laws. Our remote forefathers possessed laws, of which the object was to raise the value of labour. They enjoyed and enforced, at the same time, laws prohibitive of usury—pro hibitive of the action of that principle to which the daily money power owes its existence. We, less wise and less happy than our remote forefathers, give unlimited scope to usury, while we leave labour unprotected by law ; nay, we pass laws, like the New Poor-law, with the view of lessening the market value of labour. Laws tending to lessen the value of labour—laws which stimulate and ex tend the practice of usury—are l aws an t agon i s ti c o f the spirit of our corn-laws. Labour-cheapening laws, and usury-favouring laws, undermine and ren der nugatory that system of protection of which the corn-laws are the expression. In this point of view we have, as Mr. Muntz observes, repeatedly declared that "the corn-laws alone are insufficient to protect the agricultural interest of England." Nor do we admit that a reform of our currency-laws--even in addition to a sound corn-law—would yield to labour that full measure of protection which labour requires. A sound system of currency is, doubtless, protective of labour—so is a sound system of corn-laws—yet both systems are only indirectly protective of that creative power which is the exclusive source of na tional wealth. Labour-laws—laws directly pro tective of labour against the encroachments of capital —are necessary to secure to the labourer his fair mea sure of reward, and so to impart efficiency to a sound system of corn-laws. We find the following amusing story in the Journal du iitiore of Thursday One day last week, at Caen, a young and pretty Englishwoman, with long auburn hair, fresh - complexion, rosy lips, and airy step, and with a pleasing smile upon her countenance, entered the shop of one of the principal muchands sic nouveautes. On seeing her, the shopmen passed their hands through their hair, stereotyped their most fascinating smile, and each did everythin g _ in his power to attract the notice of the pretty customer. The lady addressed herself as if by chance, to the master, who was not a little flattered at the preference. I .le 'mule avoir une chi's,' said the lady, with her pleasing English accent, and the gal lant tradesman immediately began to display his choicest ar ticles. Yes, yes,' said the pretty lady, with a smile, Vous etc. profondement a i ma bl e , Monsieur le merchandise,' on examining one, and finding the colour tan light. Another was presented to her, which she found of teo large a pattern. At length, one of the most beautiful seemed to please her, and the price was soon agreed upon. The handsome Miss was about to take it, when suddenly, as if recollecting herself, she said, 'Je aller lai6ser 11 volts la petite chile, je avois oubli4 Ic bourse a moi dans le hotel.' The polite tradesman could not allow this, and compelled the lady to take away the shawl. Mais,' said she, archly, si je allais sauver moi sans payer vow.' The tradesman said he was perfectly easy on that head, as it was impossible for so beautiful a lady to be guilty of de ception. Yes, yes,' exclaimed the daughter of Albion, and disappeared, with the step of a fairy. On the following day the tradesman went to the hotel, and discovered that his beau tiful customer bad left by the Havre steamer, taking with her the shawl, but forgetting to leave the money. He imme diately set off in pursuit, and, arriving at Havre, was fortu nate enough to find her. On seeing him, she said, ' Yes, yes, je avais nubile de payer vous, la France it &tilt pas bon pour le m4morie A moi, voila le argent, je demande bien pardon pour la petite disagrement.' This time the tradesman forgot all his gallantry, and leaving the lady, without even taking off his hat, returned home with a resolutiop to be on his guard in future against /a perfide Albion." • Sir James Graham and Sir Edward Knatchbpll .rapsacted business yesterday, at the Foreign-office, PitICES OF SHARES IN CANALS, RAILWAYS, BANKS, ASSURANCE ..ND OTHER COMPANIES' STOCK. LONDON, TUESDAY, JAN. 23. Dividend per Annum. Of per cent. 41. Price. Names of Com panies. Canals. Ashton and Oldham Ashby-de-la-Zouch..av Basingstoke Brecknock & Ahergay Birmingham, LIR h sh. Do. and Livcrp. Julie. Chelmer & Blackwater Coventry ............. ...... Crom ford ........ Dudley ...................... Derby .............. Danube and Mayne.... Ellesmere and Chester Erewash Forth and C1yde......... Grand Junctien.......... Grand Union ....»........ Grand Surrey Grand Western ..... Glamorgansh. ' ay. cost Gloucester & Berkeley Grantham Hudderstle:d Kennet and Avon „..av Lancaster Leeds and Liverpool... 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COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCI-I. DUBLIN, TUESDAY., THE QUEEN V. DANIEL O'CONNELL AND OTHERS. The Court sat at ten o'clock. The traversers were in punctual attendance. The first witness called was John Maoire, Head constable of Police, who being examined by Mr. Bennett, Q.C., on the part of the Crown, de posed—l am a Head-constable of Police ;in the month of May last I was stationed in the town ,of Sligo. I remember having attended the Longford Repeal meeting, which was held last May on a Sunday. I saw the people coming into the town that (lay. They came flocking into the town between eight and nine o'clock with musical bands playing before them. They walked down the street playing " St. Patrick's Day, " Garryowen," and " The Irishmen." The bandsmen had peculiar dresses upon them. They wore military caps, some of which had red bands and some gold bands. There was here some trifling noise in the Court which appeared to annoy Mr. Bennett, who requested that Mr. Hatchell would use his influence with the gentlemen around him to pre serve order, as it would be otherwise very difficult to conduct the examination. Mr. Fitzgibbon (who was sitting next to Mr. Hat chell) said—l can assure you, Mr. Bennett, that no one is making a noise in the vicinity of Mr. Hatchell. Mr. Bennett—But I can assure you, Mr. Fitzgibbon, that there is, for I can hear him speaking at this dis tance.—(Laughter.) Mr. Fitzgibbon—l'm sitting nearer to Mr. ilatchell than you are, and if there was any voice I should hear it. Mr. Bennett—l assert there is noise, and I would not say so were it not that I know it to be true.—(Laughter.) Mr. Fitzgibbon—This interruption is quite uncalled for. Mr. Bennett—Pm not alluding to you at all now, so keep yourself quiet.—(Laughter.) Mr. Fitzgibbon—Yes, but you said there was noise in my vicinity, and there is nothing of the kind. Mr. Bennett—l repeat what I said before ; some gen tlemen around Mr. Hatchell are speaking so loudly that I am interrupted in my examination of the witness. Mr. Fitzgibbon—lf there is noise in Court it does not come from this side of the Court—(A laugh)—l'm right. Mr. Bennett—So am I.—(Laughter.) Mr. Forde—My Lords, I was only making a sugges tion to my counsel, Mr. Hatchell, and this I submit I had every right to do. The Chief Justice—You ought not to be interrupting the Court, Mr. Forde. Mr. Forde—Nor was I, my Lord. I merely leant over the bar to make a suggestion to Mr. Hatchell relative to the cross-examination. Mr. Fitzgibbon—l don't think Mr. Forde's voice could have interrupted anybody. Mr. Bennett—A h, Mr. Fitzgibbon, do permit me to go on.—(Laughter.) Mr. Fitzgibbon—l have not the slightest objection.— (Laughter.) Mr. Bennett—Well now, witness, you were proceed ing to describe the bands ; they wore military caps you say ? Witness—Yes, with red or gold bands ; some of the bands were preceded by a man dressed like a drum major, who held a large stick in his hand ; the people followed the bands ; I formed an estimate of the numbers who were present ; I should think from 40,000 to 50,000 people were met together on the occasion ; I observed a person leading the crowds ; the person in question I believe to be a Ca tholic priest ; the people came on in military order ; I mean by military array a kind of rank and tile order of marching ; there were several persons on horseback ; about 100 of them came into town with Mr. O'Connell ; he sat on the front box or seat of his carriage ; there was a gentleman sitting with him, whom I under stood to be Bishop Biggins. Mr. Steele was inside, and another person, who seemed to be a clerical gentleman. I did not know who he was. Mr. O'Con nell arrived about two o'clock. Ile was preceded by three or tour bands playing before him. The houses in the town were decorated with green boughs. and some of the people carried boughs in their hands, waving them ; some of the people had sticks, and on approaching the platform way was made for them, and some of them had sticks and were brandishing them; the meeting broke up between four and five o'clock ; I was near the platform, which was very large, and a number of persons on it ; I did not see any of the traversers, except Mr. O'Connell and Mr. Steele; I took notes of the mottoes that day ; but Mr. Johnston took notes of the speeches from a window, under my observation, as we could not both conveniently take them ; the motto over the platform was "Ireland for the Irish, and the Irish for Ireland ;" that was very conspi cuous ; in another part of the town was " A population of nine millions is too great to be dragged at the tail of another nation ;" it was on a large piece of white calico or linen, and was fastened to the wall on the Dublin road ; it was after the meeting I saw it there ; another motto was "He that com mits a crime strengthens the enemy ;" I am quite sure the word enemy was there • another motto was " Repeal and no separation"—" dead mile fealtha." I heard Mr. O'Connell speak that day in the early part of his speech. He said theirs was no vain cause. I cannot charge my memory with having heard him make any allusion to trial by jury or the administration of justice. Did you hear him wake any allusion to judges or courts of justice ?—He said " they took the commission of the peace from your respected supporters ;" he also said to the people " Go home quietly, and tell your friends what you have heard, and when I want you again won't you be ready ?" That sentence was im pressed on my memory, as it was the conclusion of his speech ; after that Mr. Steele came forward, with a parcel of papers ; he said they were speeches of the Liberator's, made about some measure of Sir E. Peel's. After Mr. O'Connell made his speech did you see any brandishing of sticks ?—No. Mr. Fitzgibbon—Having regard to the testimony of the last witness yesterday I would ask is that question put in a fair or legal shape? Judge Perrin—Sure it has been answered. Chief Justice—What harm is the answer? Mr. Bennett—l would be exceedingly obliged to Mr. Fitzgibbon if he finds me putting an illegal question to make an objection to it at the time, and I shall either sustain it or give it up. Mr. Fitzgibbon—" After Mr. O'Connell's speech did you see any brandishing of sticks ?" Mr. Bennett—Yes ; I had a right to put that ques tion, and you are not to judge of its legality, Sir ; it is for the Court. Chief Justice—Oh, go on with the examination. Witness—The people all dispersed after the meeting. Chief Justice—Can you state about how many per sons you suppose were there ?—I think between forty and fifty thousand. Cross-examined by Mr. Hatchell, Q.C.—I am in the constabulary, and a first head constable. I am not a sub-inspector, but it is the next step to my office. John ston was the head constable there on the occasion. There are two de g rees in the class of head constables. There is one chief head constable in each county. Mr. O'Connell—Speak up, Sir, let us hear what you say. I am a first head constable, _and the next step is sub inspector. I came to Longford on the 27th of May, the night before the meeting. I came with Johnston, who was examined here yesterday. Did you read any report of his evidence in the papers this morning ?—Nut this morning. Did you last night, Sir ?—Yes, I did. Mr. Hatchell—So I thought. Were you ever in the arn►y ?—No. Where did you stop in Longford ?—We got into tt house convenient to the platform. And you saw it of course ?—Yes, certainly. ])id you see any breach of the peace committed ? None whatever. Or any tendency to a breach of the peace ?—There was no breach of the peace committed. Why do you evade giving me a direct answer ?—I will tell you all I know about the subject. - INrtts there any tendency to a breach of the peace did nut see any breach of the peace committed. Give me a direct answer, Sir. Was there any ten dency to a breach of the peace ?—None that I saw. I take it for g►ranted you are not at Repealer ? —(Laughter.)—No, nor do I belong to any other party. Don't youbelong to a party of police ?—(Laughter.) You saw a great deal of people there ?—Yes, after Mr. O'Connell arrived. But there WRS no breach of the peace, and having gone there to preserve the peace, and finding the peace was not broken, _ _ _ "Alan, Othello's occupation was gone," and Arr. head-constable 'Maguire had nothing at all to do.—(Great laughter.) Was it not so?—I did not go there to preserve the peace at all. Didn't you though. Ah, me ! Well, and what brought you there Mr. Head-constable Maguire ?—I went there to make observations. Mr. Mitchell—Hall ! That was the tactic of a good general to see how the land lay in the first instance.— (Loud laughter.)— When we are assembled for preserv ing the peace, we act under the command of the sub inspector. The people were coining in merrily ?—Yes, they were. The same as to a country fair ?—Eh. Did you ever see the people coming into au Irish country fair merrily?—Yes, very. After kicking up their heels and dancing a little bit ? Loud laughter. Yes, something after that fashion. ou said the people were brandishing their sticks ? Yes, they were. ras it in anger or disorder, or had it a tendency to anger or quarrel amongst themselves?—Not the least anger. They were coming in parties, you said ?—Yes, they were coming in military array. Oh, dear me, in military array. Now had they their sticks on their shoulders this way ?—(Here the Learned Gentleman shouldered a large pen amid great laughter.) Was that the way, eh P—No they had not. Do you understand me ?—I suppose I do. Did they carry arms ?—(Great laughter.)—No. Did they come to the port ?—No.—(Laughter.) Did they present arms when the General came up?— (Roars of laughter.)—No. Did they charge ?—No. They did not ?—No, they did not. And yet they came in military array. Wonderful Captain Maguire !—(lmmense laughter.) They came in military array and did not carry arms, did not come to the port, did not present arms to the General, did not charge—(Laughter) — and yet they came in military array ?—Yes, they did. Did they halt P—Some of them might have halted. J.)o you mean that iK)in9 t)f them were lame?—(Shouts of laughter.)—There might be some of them lame, and in that sense they might halt.—(Laughter.) Where did they halt?—Near the platform. That was when they could not go further ?—Yes.— (Immense laughter.) Did they stand at ease ?—I suppose they did, for some of them must have come a good distance, and therefore they must have been tired.—(Laughter.) Oh, they wanted rest, and then they stood at ease— just so ?—(Laughter.)—They marched, and halted, and stood at ease, because they were tired. Do you know anything about marching ?—Yes, some thing. Were you ever drilled ?—I was. Do you know the first movement ?—When a person is desired to march he is to put his left leg foremost.— (Shouts of laughter.) And let your right leg follow it ?—Yes, that's it. Well, now, were the people coming in military array, with their left legs fin-emost ?—(Renewed laughter.)—l do not know which of their legs were foremost.—(Great laughter.) Did you see them all march ?—I don't know. Did you ever hear " Come, brave boys, we're on for march. 7 ng"—(Laughter) ?—Can you explain the dif ference between the right and left legs ?—(Shouts of laughter.}—Not exactly. wfdch of your legs is foremost now ?—Cannot say. Mr. Bennett—What has the difference of legs to do in this _case ? fictehell—no not be angry because I am pleased. Come, Ca i - itain Maguire—Gcneral, I think, I ought to call you--di." l you ever read Dundas on Manceuvring ? Yes, a little. What part of it ?—Cannot say. - Then, you have forgotten your lesson ?—So it ap pea rs.—(Laugh ter.) • Well, now, having gotten so far with your left leg foremost, what do you mean by rank and file ?—Two deep. Ali, bah ! you are too deep for me. On your oath, does it mean two deer, or a single file ?—Cannot tell exactly. Oh, there you are, Mr. Captain Maguire, on Dundas's tactics.—(Laughter.) Do you mean to tell the jury that the people all came in marching two deep ?—I do not. They did not march two and two, rank and Ale ? —They did not march two deep, but some of them did. How many of them did so ?—Some more and some less. Were they short or long ?--Don't know. Well, take the largest party, and say how many came two deep ? (The witness made a very long pause.) Mr. Ilatchell—Well ? Witness—Well,•Sir. Mr. Mitchell—l say ill, Sir ;go on.—(Laughte r. ) Well go on ?—The largest namber of a party might ex cee,l 100. Did they come in two deep ?—Some of them did. Will you swear that any one body of them came two deep ? —Some of them came two deep in a hind of military order. Oh ! a kind of military order, was it ?—Yes. By virtue of your oath, Sir, did you not swear a moment ago that they came in rank and file?—lt was a kind of rank and file. Like Mounting the Castle-guard ?—Exactly so. By virtue of your solemn oath, will you swear that any one of the parties you saw came in order such as the guard goes in when relieving the other guard at the Castle 2—Some of them did. Was there any entire party who came two and two ?—Some of them did. On your oath were therNot a great many women and chil dren there ? Yes ; the women and children came after Mr. O'Connell.—(Laughter.) I mean after he came into town. Did they not, come in with the men ?—They might have totnt in after the men. _ _ _ Were they not with the men ? Some of the parties 1 de scribed had no women. . _ Was there any party with women and children ?—Yes. Were they with all the parties f_They might have come after the parties. Were there not lots of women and children in the military array ?—They might have followed the men.—(Laughter.) The women and children followed in the rear ?-0n the sides. Then the women were beside the men ?—ln some cases. Were they mixed with them ?—Not with those men who came in as I described to you before. Mr. Hatchell—l do not want to entrap the witness, but I want him to give us a fair and honest _statement of what took place, according to what he saw. Witness—l am disposed to do se. Now, you talked of a drum-major ?—I Do you know what a drum-major is ?—I do. Had he a silver-beaded cane in his hand ?—He had a stick in his hand, the top of which was either silver or something representing silver. It was the band-master Lad that ?—No; the drum-major. Is that the band-master ?—No, it is not. You knew them to be temperance bands, did yon ?—No ; they were all strangers to me. I know you did not know them personally ; but did you know them to be temperance bands?—l was informed that some of them were. And when the meeting was determined, and the speeches were over, all the people returned quietly lame ?—They did. And their wives and children with them ?—They all went away. At what hour ?—Between four and five o'clock. John Jolly was the next witness produced, and being sworn, was examined by Mr. Brewster, Q.C.-1 am head-constable of Cork, East Riding. I remember a meeting at Mallow on the 11th of last June. I was there. It was on Sunday. I went in uniform to Mallow, but I changed my cloth es b e f ore the meeting took place. Before the meeting commenced I saw a procession. I saw it pass through Mallow in the direction from which I was told Mr. O'Connell was to come. I cannot recollect the place where it passed. I was a stranger there. The procession was a very numerous one. There were several bands. Tkere were persons on horseback. The procession marched in regular order with bands and banners ; the bands playing and the colours flying. Several of them had cards at tached to their button-holes to distinguish them from others. More had paper round their hats with the words " O'Connell's Police" written upon it. Describe what order they went in ?—They marched four or five deep. The horsemen went much in the same way, ap parently in regular order. Did you see persons taking more particular command than others ?—I did. Describe in what positions in the procession they were ? They were outside the body, or the ranks, as I may call it, and appeared to give directions to the others. Some of the horse men who did take this command had wands, with something like ribbon tied on the top. It was late in the evening when the procession returned. Mr. O'Connell and Mr. Steele re tamed with it. Ido not remember ever to have seen so large a meeting. How many think you were there l'.--I think there were some hundreds of thousands. I have never seen such a crowd before. _ _ __ In what part ;late procession were Mr. O'Connell and Mr. Steele ?—I did not see them in the procession, but I saw them on the platform. Where was the platform erected?—lt was erected near the shambles in Mallow. _ Was it a large place ?—lt was a very large open space, and it war very nearly full; I went near to the platform; I was about ten yards from it ; sometimes nearer, but the place where I stopped at last wag about ten yards from the platform. Did you take a note of the proceedings ?- 7 I did not. Did You hear Mr. O'Conn;ll's speech ?—Part of it. Are you able to state the substance of any part or parts of it ? —I am. The first thing that was done was to present an address to Mr. O'Connell ; so at least I was told, fur at that time I could sot get near enough to the platform. What did you hear Mr. O'Connell say ?—He first said that he came to tell them a secret, and thought there were enough of them to keep it.—( Laughter.) He told them, too, that the Union should be repealed by some time that I cannot exactly remember.—( Laughter.) Did he mention any time?.—He did. He also said that they should have " Ireland for the Irish. They might have England for the English, and Scotland for the Scotch, but Ireland should be for the Irish ; and that he defied them to keep it, for they were too numerous, too determined, and too temperate." He said that on the face of the earth there were not a greater pack of bribers than the lfiritish House of Commons, and that was admitted by xime authority he then gave. He then asked the crowd, did they ever hear talk of the man with the ugly name ? Sugden—(Laughter.) He said a friend of his in Kilkenny told him he would not call his pig " Sugden "—(Laughter)—and as for the Lord Lieutenant, he way so ignorant that he heard he sent a commissioner to see if Kilkenny was a seaport.—( Laughter.) lie then alluded to the police. There were some members of she police there, and he spoke of them. He said that if they had made applica tion to him, he would have appointed several of his own police to keep the peace, and save the police the trouble of coming there. He said they sent the soldiers to shoot them. " but," said he, " they know a trick worth two of that." —(Laughter.) He said, "if we are attacked we will defend ourselves. The sergeants of the English army are the finest body of men in the world, but the worst treated. The French eergeants were generally raised to the rank of officers; they wtre a great deal better treated than the English, by being promoted to the rank of officers." He also began telling the crowd the elects of repeal. He said the labourers would be farmers, the farmers gentlemen, and the gentlemen Members of Parliament— (Loud laughter, in which the Court and jury joined)—no, not Members of Par liament, but Lords.--( Repeated laughter). He asked the crowd, Would they be ready to come again if he wanted them, and desired as many as would to hold up their hands. The crowd held up a wood of hands. He said when they came again he would require them to come armed, but the arms would be repeal cards. Mr. Brewster—Did you observe anything particular—l mean in his tone and gesture, when he was then speaking ? Yes, he paused when he said " armed," before he said " with repeal cards;" the meeting lasted about two hours. I saw something occur on the platform before the meeting commenced which attracted my attentiln ; some one on the platform—it was before Mr. O'Connell came—pointed out a person in the crowd, and desired hien to leave the meeting ; he said he -should be put out by force if he did not leave it. He said to the crowd, " Cut his reins, drive him out, he is an enemy." I did not see this person, bet I think he was on horseback, as the other said, " cut his reins." Cross-examined by Mr. Whiteside—Are you acquainted with Mr. Johnston ?—I saw him. When did you see him last ?—I saw him in the Court to-day. Did you see him last night ?—Yes. Did you thee know he was examined yesterday ?—I did. Did you talk about the trial with him ?—No, he was away from me. Have you not seen him frequently before the trials com menced?—Yea, I have. Did not he tell you he came her to be examined ?—H e did. When did you see Maguire last ? saw him last night. N t May I ask your rank in the coas ts Lary?—Head constable. You are not an officer then ?—No. Pray, where are you stationed?—ln Ballingcollig, about six miles from Cork. May I ask what newspaper you take in ?—I take in no newspaper. Well, then, what newspapers do you read ?—I am glad to see any of them. I suppose you read the Cork Constitution?—Yet. Did you read an account of the Mallow meeting in any of the new spapers ?—I will answer candidly ; I did not read any account of the meeting. - I have no recollection that I did. Try and remember ?—I cannot recollect. Upon my oath I do not. Will you tell ma to-morrow if I meet you ?—I cannot recol lect that I did. Will you swear that you read no account of the meeting in a sowspaper ?—I will not. Were you ordered to go to Mallow ?-1 was. Flow were you dressed ?—I went in regular uniform. Were you in Mallow the night before ?—I was not. I went there in the morning. Did you meet other policemen there ?—Yes. Were the policemen dressed in uniform ?—They were. Was Mr. Anderson, the sub-inspector, there ?—He was. Does not he know Mallow better than you do ?—He does. What time did you undress ?—I cant say exactly. The procession was going through the town at the time. Do you swear the full procession was going through ? I sal a part was going through. The last part of it. What time did you leave the street to undress?—l was not in the street then. I undressed in the barracks. What time of the day did you undress ?.—I should think (ht. sitating) about I cannot exactly say. You are very precise about the words Mr. O'Connell used. What time did you put on the disguise ?—Was it -one o'clock. It might be aboutone o'clock. Was it one o'clock ?—lt might be more. I think it Wu between one and two. Did you see the whole of the procession ?—I don't know that I saw the whole of it. I saw half of it. What half did you see ?—The last half. Where did you see it ?—I saw it going out of Mallow. Are you a constabulary man ?-4 am. You have fought no battles ?—No. Oh ! then you are not a military man, you are a civil man. Now, you have said the procession marched in military or der, with bands playing, colours flying —are these words your own ? Are they your own spontaneous effusion ?—Yes. Were you not frightened by this military array, close columns and marching order ? —No. What tunes did the bands play ? Did they play " Paddy Cs' rey," or " Paddy frim Cork," or " God save the Queen I took no notice. This was not a military procession?—No, a civil one. There were bands of music and banners ?—I saw a great many banners. What do you mean by the horses being in apparently particu lar good order—were they fat ?—That would be good order. Now, what became of the guns and muskets, the cannon, the dead and wounded of this battle ?—.There were none at all. The horsemen were mounted five or six a-breast, and more after them. Are you sure the horses' tails we:•re not tied together ? Were there real living men on them?-.—'There were. And wo nen behind the men ?—Yea, on pillio;;: .Nov. tell us, did they charge you or you charge then 2-4 did neither. Had the women their arms about the men?—They weft holding on. Noss 7 , I have to ask a question suggested by Mr. Hatehell. D ) you conceive that an offence against the arms order (Great laughter.) So, with music playing and banners flying, and wanes with arms round the men, they marched out of Mallow ?—• Yes. Were there no children there ?—lt would not be a plan for them in the crowd. - Were the bands temperance bands or timperaneo ?—I (141 not understand timperance. I beg your pardon. I assure you I mean no impeachment on your moral character. I wish to know do you think it better that the people should amuse themselves playing music! or drinking whiskey ?—lndeed, Sir, I prefer the former. Why, you know in either case they are prosed, goocungtia via, as we lawyers say.—(Laughter.) Did you make any report of this battle ?—I made ao report, I took no note. How, then, do you recollect Mr. O'Connell's speech?- Because I took a great interest in hearing Mr. O'Connell speak. Are you a Repealer? You took a great interest in Mr. O'Connell's speech, you say 2-1 was glad to listen to a good speaker. You had better wait a little, then, and hear Mr. Hatchell and the rest here ?—I would be glad to hear gentlemen of eminence. How did you take a note of the pause? Are you not to allow a pause in speaking ?—Certainly, Sir. I wish to know how, because it is odd a witness yesterday said Mr. O'Connell paused?—l took no notice at all. Mr. O'Connell told the people to come armed with the Re• peal card ?—Yes. . . • Now, when you heard the word armed did not you nudge the man against you ?—I was nudging him to get on as quick as I could. He said the sergeants in France got promotion —you cocked your ears at that ? Now, do you not expect to be promoted W the office of Head-constable when the trial is over ? I hate I a great respect for the constabulary, and like them in any OW racter save witnesses ? That is for the Inspector-General. Well, the Inspector-General it a reasonable man, and don't you think it reasonable that a useful, active man like you should be promoted ?—lt is reasonable.—( Laughter). So Mr. O'Connell said when we got it (Repeal) the labourers would be farmers, the farmers gentlemen, and the gentlemen stil Lords?—There will be no commoners then.—(Laughter). You will be a Lord yourself—(Laughter)—Lord Bailin collig ?—( Great laughter, in whick the whole Court save OA Attorney-General joined).—He said so. Tell me now, which is all this treason, conspiracy, sedition, or flat burglary ?—(Continued laughter).—l never joke when I am on my oath. There was a country fellow on the platform, who told a Per: son in the crowd, whom you did not see, to be gone, no creating a disturbance ?—I did not know what he might be doing. You have idle times in the north, I think ?—lt is very sin gular, the less I have to do the better I like it.--(Laughter.). Now did you not say you never joked when on your oat)lf —That is, really, no joke Sir.—(Loud laughter.) You were not much pressed on that day ?—lndeed I wet by the crowd.—(Continued laughter.) Why you are joking again : but there was nothing WO to incommode you—your whiskers were not pulled 7—The crowd was very great. Were there ladies and gentlemen among them ?,..Neither. Did you dine comfortably that day, and had you a got* bed ?—lt was pretty hard.—( Laughter. ) When did you leave Mallow ?—That evening. When did they ferret you out as a witness ?—.About the month of December. Are there any respectable people in Mallow ; any proprie• tors in the town ' • shopkeepers or landholders near it ?—Plentl• Why, then have they pitched on you, a policeman, wh o escaped to tell of your imminent hair-breadth Hope from the scene of slaughter ?—(Laughter.)—l was sent here. Now, Sir (here Counsel addressed the witness in a tone of the most dramatic gravity, amid the roars of the whole Cour° sincerely trusting you may speedily obtain that prelneti°, ll which you so richly deserve, I have to wish you a very rem morning! Re-examined by Mr. Brewster—Mr. Anderson was near 6 0 place of meeting. He was in the Court-house, and could net hear what was said. The witness then withdrew. The next witness called was Henry Godfrey, police con , stable. He was examined by Mr. Freeman--1 was a eon• stable in August. I remember the 6th of August. I wee in Baltinglass on that day. I was stationed at Donerd. 16 is about eight miles distant from Baltinglass. I was ordered to Baltinglass the evening before the meeting. The Sleeting took place on Sunday. I saw a great number of persona there between twelve and one o'clock. I observed persona coming in on large waggons :from the Rathvilly side. Thel had a band with them. I saw Winer!. I did not observe any inscriptions. The meeting was held a little ouundo the town. I saw the Rev. Mr. Nolan before the meeting `T r place. I heard him desire the people to go and meet ; O'Connell. I heard a man say the shouting will frighten t b v, pigeons. Another said, " Yes, and the Protestants to ( ' This was before the Rev. Mr. Nolan desired the people t..P I to meet Mr. O'Connell. I was dressed in plain dress. Ju r : Mr. O'Connell came in about one o'clock. I heard a man 511 " This is the day that will frighten Saunders." A gentleman named Mr. Robert Saunders lives about two English 1 113.1 from the town. The expression was made before Mr, O'Cou/ nell came up. Mr. Fitzgibbon—When did you make the memorandum 00 of which you are reading ?—On the day the meeting wd over. _ _ To Mr. Freeman—l attended the place of meeting ; I Mr' H"lt Mr. O'Connell, there, a n d Mr. Nolan, Mr. Farrell, and Copeland ; I saw the two Metcalfs there, and a person 1 10 was pointed out to be Mr. Steele ; I would know Mr. Steel e's person (the witness here identified Mr. Steele who was sitting near him in Court). Mr. O'Connell was there also ; be re collected him saying that he did not despair of getting the Re'' peal, for he had the people to back him ; he also said there were some millions of money sent out of the country ; he did no t say how much ; he stated that the taxes were to be paid 0 11 ` of some fund; he heard him say something about Lord Wic k ; low ; he heard him call Mr. Felton a " bog-trotting agent ; does not recollect that he heard him say anything more. Did you hear Mr. O'Connell say anything about meeting the people again? Mr. Fitzgibbon objected to the question. Mr. Fretful° had no right to be leading the witness this way. Mr. Freeman—Did you hear him say anything about tithes Mr. Cantwell said—Really in justice to my client I Ine s interfere ; this is not fair. Chief Justice—You must not interrnpt the Court, Air' Cant 11. Mr. Cantwell--1 roust, and hope I shall do my duty , ul Lord, and I hope your Lordship will do yours. Chief Justice—The Court will do its duty, and if yon inte r, rupt it again you will be removed forthwith. Mr. Cantwell—l am satisfied that the Court will do it° duty, but I must bring under its notice an illegal question. Chief Justice—lt is not your duty to address the Cour" when you have Counsel to do so. Mr. Freeman—Do you recollect that Mr. O'Connell la, l `! anything more?—He said when he came again he hoped all I.oe people would be there to meet him. He heard the people 416° ,. say that th ey, would get the Repeal, now they were all lob e and determined men. He saw Mr. Lawless, a Roman Cach o ' lie clergyman there. He heard him say that tithes would ~l b done away with. He talked about goin g to Dublin, and sa i d the Protestant clergymen were civil, and would j o in him, t",, e , 1 ( would get the tithes during their lives. He could not say "' re many people were there. He was in a crowd, and there w e r e a great number of people around him. He was not alone, then was sometimes another man with him, and sometimes not. Cross-examined by Mr. Fitzgibbon—Were you a strange' in 13altinglass?—No. I had known it ten or eleven year' You were very well known there as a policeman?--Yes' How long have you been a policeman ?—Tvrelve years. . 0 , Were you all that time in Baltinglass ?—I was not. I " stationed eight miles from it. At this meeting you were not molested ?—No. on No expression w as need painful to your feelings ?—One said, " This is the day that will frighten the pigeons , Baltinglass dialect, policemen.) There was ne attempt to remove yon from the cro wd?'" No. No ampt to oy j ou inury ?—No. You m ig h t kaT d e got up to the front of the platform if you had liked ?—Yes. Like any other person in the meeting ?—The same. w ith Can you tell us the n ame o f an y o th er p erson that wag you ?—No. pat When the observation was made about the "pigeons _ t ot. there not some o n e w h o re pli e d, " an d f r ighten the Prote s too ?"—Yes. You plainly beard him ?—Yes. Were you within a yard of him?—Yee. Did you do anything 2—No. Did you know the person or ever see him ?—No. ttiv What sort of man was ' he ?—tie appeared to be a c ° tryman. Then you cannot name any person who heard that /W el' sion besides yourself ?—No. t the You cannot name any person wbo was about you time ?—I cannot. There we millions of people about ":, (Langlater.)—l made it my b us iness to keep oat of the If " all_people who I thought would know me. ode . ' Then you mean to say that during that day you e . 0 1 Toured to avoid the eyes and notice of those who kne w —I did. What did you do to avoid the eyes of those who knew lethor I would shift from any place when I saw them into Ite° part of the crowd. Lest the shoul see you ?—Yes. Did y y that expect that shuffling forward to another Or!!! l i n t el crowd, would prevent, your being seen by those I"' you ?—I did. . Did you dip your head?—No. Did you hide your head ?—No. was t° Then, what you did when you saw an acquaintance, ugh shift your way through the crowd ?—I worked my wa y thro_ o the crowd with my face up. I endeavoured to make 1113. through them. 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