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sideration of the House. Formerly he had felt it to be his duty to propose some substitute to supply the deficiency which the Repeal of the Tax in question was calculated to occasion in the Revenue. But things were now in a different 'state. The Right Hon. Gentleman had since had abundant opportunities of obviating the evil. Not only must th e Ri g h t Hon. Gentleman have been well aware of the extent of the existing agricultural distress, but he must have well k , ll °wn what h a d passe d i n t h e C omm i ttee appoint -eu t o investi ga t e th e causes o f t h at agr i cu l tura l untress, which every one ac k now l e d ge d to b e recedent e d in extent. The result of the in .quiries of that Committee had been, that although there had existed a variety of opinions in it on other parts of the subject, on that of the agricultural distress, and of the necessity of affording speedy .relief to that distress, the Committee came to an unanimous resolution that the distress of the country tion was fully proved. With such a resolu (whatever difference of opinion might exist on other subjects), what would be the impres sion on the country if it should turn out that 'Parliament the whole Session had abstained from ta king a single earthly step to afford the relief acknowledged -- wiedged to be indispensable ?(llear !) To the vote of that night, therefore, the country would look, that they might estimate what they alight expect from Parliament; for, it was evi dent, that if the Report of the Committee were to be made in the. present Session, It was too late to found any measure upon i t• Ile put it, therefore, to the House, what an swer they would make to his constituents, if they were asked why they did not adopt the proposi tion_ which lie was about to submit to them Would it be becoming in them to say, that be cause th e y f oun d th ey cou ld no t g i ve a ll, th ey t herefor e refused to give any thing ? He must a gain express his regret that the Noble Marquess 'Was not present, because he felt it his duty to say that, in his opinion, - the present Administration d id not show the feeling which they ought for agriculture. At the opening of the present Ses spion th ere was not a wor d i n t h e S peec h f rom t h e "I , l vie on the subject of the distress of agri euttore. His Majesty's Ministers appeared, there frTre, eith er t o b e i gnorant o f th e ex t en t o f t h a t, ress, or indifferent to it. It was with him a matter of no doubt, that there never could be any description of prosperity in this country, th ile agriculture remained in a distressed state. i, heßt.li on . the Chancellor of the Exchequer had, ', lu ring the l a st t wo mon ths, b ee n re p ea t e dly in ,,,treated t o recons id er hi s est i ma t es . H e (M r . aurw en , ) was persuaded that if the Session were 1 ::w to recommence, the majority would declare 1 7" these estimates ought to be reduced. Go ;ernrnent ought not to have trusted to any Corn mittees ; hut, taking a view of the state of the OUtitry, have made those retrenchments which would have enabled the House to sacrifice to the a g r iculturists this boon, Trifling 'as it was, it I "utd i be received with gratitude, and would have a. most advantageous effect. In the course of the discussions in the Committee, a Resolution was a greed to, to instruct the Chairman to move for t he repeal of this tax ; though, subsequently, it w as decided not t o d o so un til t h e R eport was ~_ nde. This circumstance had occasioned the thlay in hi s mo ti on . H e con fid en tly an ti c i pa t e d ;,,, a t the present decision of the House would be 4 4- ,, to b eg i n th a t wor k w hich th e y mu st after at - r liS ‘arry to a much greater length—(Hear!)— ah"s most onjust to call on the Agriculturists e a t 'e to make .acrifices ; let them be made "ally by all cla s s e s of the community. Was it Pass Illy th a t near l y one h all of the whole income of the co un t r y cou ld cont i nue to b e collected in t b a i k ation ? In his o pi n i o n, it was u tt er l y anpassi e• Unless some permanent protection could be gra nted to the Agriculturist, the only alternative w as to cut down the txpences of our establish ent at home and abroad, from the King to the ,()west Officer in the State (hear, hear!) But 1?d any disposition been evinced thus to relieve re burdens of the people ? None whatever. I t : L ad been stated by some Honourable Gentlemen, Oli n ; the Tax under consideration was a very Olin; one ; on the light soil it was not much, c ut on the heavy "soilS it amounted to three per l ent. on the rent. It was a Tax the principle of Which 'was most unjust, being a Tax on the th "ough, and fell Most heavily on those who were P least able to bear it; the Tax not only bore at a . . r di but exposed the farmer to endless vex thi°ns ; for, contrary' to the law of the land, ti e Tax Offi ce p ronounce d ever y man gu ilt y b 1 ' was proved innocent, and the num er °f surch arges was i n consequence enor ti ol°118 ) having be en no f ewer th an 139,000 i n he e Year.' If a f arm e r once crosse d a h orse , was cha rge d w ith a piC asure -h orse , an d hi s PloughmanShe was charged as a groom. These were sh xat ions which ought to be corrected. To N i: (l % . how vexat i ous l y t h e assesse d taxes were le the d ' he instanced the case of a poor woman in six nei ghbourhood of Berwick, who having paid xr as ueti ce to a man to prune a favourite fruit-tree, I ler sUrcharged with an occasional gardener, and (4 goods were actually sold to pay the tax.— s ar e ar, hear !)—Some persons thought it neces vatar the inferi or groun d s s h ou ld go ou t of culti thevation; that he expressly denied. Ev e ry acre i n ro. that ought to be brought into culti va ti on; " .. What was the evil which the Country at pre set endu re d a b ove any ot h er b ut want of em- ' dent ? A n d was th a t ev il to b e aggra . instead of diminished ? If th ere were of I ncrease of employment, an increased price io t he necemaries of life would b e o f li tt l e ' at°,inent. Cheap br ea d w ith ou t wor k would ' l ength, he was convinced, be found to be 4 great evil, as d es t ruc ti ve o f our manufactures ' 1 ; of our agriculture. The repeal of the Malt affo rded (alth oug h h e vote d f or i t) would not have so great a relief to the farmer as the :Peal of the Agricultural Horse Tax. The r ' ° ,nntry h a d a r i g h t to demand some sacrifices to 'U!ii!ve it. Thi s was t h e only remaining oppor t ity to effect such an o bj ect, and he called ,Pon th e H ouse, therefore, to concur in his pro position, which w as f or l eave to bring in a Bill r repeal so much of the 43d and .52d of Geo. 111. "3 related to the Duty on Horses employed in A griculture. Mr. Goocn said, that the Committee which ' sat On the Petitions of the Agriculturists came to a decision that he, as Chairman, should move the repeal of this tax. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Curweti) in, consequence of this gave way. The Committee, however, subsequently altered their minds : for which reason he submitted no propo sition on the subject. He was thus placed in rather a disagreeable situation ; he should, how ever, by his vote that night, prove the sense he entertained of the tax on agricultural horses. If ever there was an oppressive tax, this was one. They had now to decide whether they would re peal the tax at present, or leave it to repeal it self, which must eventually be the case, from the inability of the agriculturists to pay.—(Hear !) He saw no remedy in the present situation of the country but to lower their expenditure, if they could not raise their means to meet it.—(llear !) —lt was absolutely impossible for the agricul turists to pay the taxes. He hoped, therefore, those Hon. Gentlemen with whom he was in the habit of acting'wonld consider this as a great-na tional question, as one of the highest importance to the most valuable class of the community.— Some objected to the repeal of the tax as being small, and therefore not affording means of any thing like effectual relief. However, if they could not get all they wished, they must get all they can. Much as he differed in opinions and politics from the Hon. Member for Aberdeen (Mr. Hume), he must say, that by his exertions and industry he had done great service this Session. He (Mr. G.) could not go back to his constitu ents without publicly sheaving that when the in terests of the country were at stake, he dared to do his duty, and therefore he would second the motion. Mr. DA , VENPORT supported the motion. With the exception' of the tax upon salt---(A laugh.)— he thought that on agricultural horses the most oppressive. it was a direct tax on the imple ments of husbandry. He hoped, therefore, the agriculturists would obtain this boon before the House separated. Mi.. COKE supported the motion. He fully concurred in what had fallen from the Hon. Gen tleman opposite (Mr. Gooch) respecting the ser vices of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen. He had been many years in that House, and he never saw a more laborious and industrious Member of Parliament. For his part he would vote lot only for the repeal of this tax, but of every other that should be proposed. The ruin and distress of the country was solely owing to the oppressive load of taxation. Mr. Grfirs said that he would support the mo tion because he thought the tax ought to be 're pealed, and he had before proposed a substitute for it, namely, a.tax upon the transfer of stock.— He had since discovered that such a tax could not have been levied, as the Loan Bill of 1813 would prevent it. He was not of opinion, however, that funded property ought to bear the same weight of taxes with that of land. He believed the country at large were now convinced that the low price of corn was ruinous. —(Hear, hear.) —He -would repeat it, that it was his opinion even the labouring classes would be better satis fied to see the farm produce at a' higher price. —He thought the Corn Bill, at the'time it pass ed, was an exceedingly good measure, hut an improvement might be made on that system;. it would, in his opinion, be attended with the most. beneficial effects, if the importation price of wheat were reduced from 10s. per bushel to Bs. a bushel, and then a protective duty of 3s. a bushel to be laid on----- . Mr. BARING rose to order. He begged to remind the Hon. Member that the question was not on the Corn Law. The SPEAKER said, it was for the lion. Member to say how' his observations applied to the question before the House. Mr. IPPS—Adverting -to the tax under consideration, he would say, that if the House could do no more, the Agricul turist would receive the repeal .9f it with gratitude as a great benefit. Mr. BARING was in a situation directly oppo siteto that of the three members who had spoken on the Ministerial side of the . House. He had voted in favour of every measure of retrenchment, but unfortunately without success ; but the House having voted the extravagant supplies called for by Government, he could hot now con sent to diminish the taxes. He could not but express astonishment that any Hon. Gentleman should think he could return to his constituents with a good grace, because after voting for every species of extravagance through the Session, he had last opposed a tax, the repeal of which was more immediately connected with his own pecu niary interest (if he might say so) than any other. The Hon. Member for Aberdeen, to whom a late tribute of applause was now rendered, otit of all the divisions which he had caused, had never in a single instance had the advantage of a vote from those who now sounded his praise. Those Gentlemen who had now lectured Government on their want of economy, would soon have an opportunity of proving their sincerity by the vote they might give on a general motion in favour of economy, which an Hon. Friend of his intended shortly to bring forward. If those Gentlemen would neither vote for retrenchment in detail, nor in the aggregate, he did not see that they had a right to look for that ap plause on . returning to their Constituents which some of them seemed to anticipate. The expense which the House thought proper to incur must be met, and if the Gentlemen oppo site who wished to relieve the landed interest could suggest no means of doing this, but by re fusing to pay those who had lent them money to carry on the war, he was quite satisfied that such an expedient would at once be scouted by the common sense of the country. Had any thing oc curred in the Committee to favour the repeal of the tax under consideration, it would not have failed of gaining insertion in their minutes. One Gen tleman who had been asked if the repeal of this tax would afford the landed interest much relief, had said that the relief thus afforded must be so trifling that it would- be hardly worth mentioning. It was, however, thought prudent not to insert this in the minutes. From what he had said, it would be seen, that the au thority of the Committee might be regarded as' going against the repeal of the Agricultural Horse Tax. Convinced as he was of the distress of the agricultural classes, no man could feel more anxious than he did to supply a remedy, if a re medy could by possibility be supplied ; but the impression on his mind was, that for the present the evil must remedy itself. He pointed out the necessity of keeping up a clear Sinking Fund, and shelved the importance of preserting the public credit inviolate, that the Government of the country might be able to meet any emer gency that might be calculated to arise, and con cluded, declaring that under all the circumstances of the case, he could not vote for the motion. Sir W. W. WYNN E spoke in favour of the md tion, and set forth the impottance of , relieving the lauded interest. Mr. BENETT (of Wiltshire) spoke against the Agricultural Horse Tax, considering it to be' an impost on the implements 'of labour, and most unjust and oppressive. He wondered how those could support such a tax who were in favour of cheap bread and opposed to a Corn Bill. He had, in the last Session of Parliament, presented a petition signed by 8000 weavers, who had been thrown out of employment. They ascribed their distress to the introduction of machinery, and wished him to submit a motion to the House for imposing a duty on machinery. 'Would not any person acquainted with the first principles of piri.; litical economy have thought him (Mr. Benett) insane to have made such a motion ? If, then, no man would dare to submit such a motion to the House, in a case where eight thousand men had been thrown out of work, with what face Could any' support a tax on horses used in agri cultural pursuits ? Measures must be taken for' the relief of the landed interest. He ,hoped the honesty of the House would arrays make them anxious to keep faith with the public creditor ; but there was a vulgar adage—" we cannot rob a naked man ofa shi - rt," which 'might be applied to the case, and the House would' feel that the interest of the National*Debt could not be paid, when the means were exhausted. The.agricul tural classes, he would repeat it, must be relieved, and he hoped the House would begin by granting the boon now solicited. Mr. W. BURRELL supported the motion, and considered the tax unjust and oppressive, as its pressure was most severe on inferior lands. It was clear that Government did not mean to do any thing for the relief of the landed interest, and it was therefore time that they should make a stand for themselves, repeal the tax now under consideration, and endeavour for the future to cut down the expenditure of the country. Re marks were made on those who had hitherto sup ported Government for the course they now took in opposing this tax. He had entered that House when the war was at its height, and had sup ported the measures of Government to obtain a. peace. When peace came, they had been told that the burdens of war would be removed, but what was the fact ? All the War Taxes were continued, with the exception of the Property Tax, which Government had also endeavoured to retain. He appealed to the House if any thing like relief had been afforded in the present Ses sion. The 10,000 men had beeicreduced who were called out when the manufacturers were reported to be in a state of insurrection, but these ought to have been returned to their homes (having been called out for a specific purpose) the moment tranquillity was restored. The landed interest ought now to make their stand— he called them_to make an effectual exe:tion hi the cause of economy. The salaries which had been augmented within his memory, on account of high prices, ought now to be reduced. In justice to the farmer the Agricultural Horse Tax ought to be repealed. He would vote for the present motion, and for any similar motion that might be brought before the House. Lord MILTON was amused by the language held by Members on the Ministerial side of the House on this occasion. The Hon. Member who had just •sat down called on the landed interest to take their stand against the measures of Go vernment. He (Lord Milton) would extend the call to the whole country, whose representatives they were, to do the same. He hoped the House would insist on a reduction of the existing esta blishments, or ,grant relief by taking off those taxes which were most obnoxious to the common eye. He submitted to his Honourable Friend the Member for Taunton, that, for the security of the public creditor himself, the Present grinding taxation should not he continued. —He proceeded to point out the injus tice of the Agricultural Horse Tax, which he shewed pressed with the greatest seve rity on the cultivators of inferior soils. At the same time that they were about to take off this tax from the agricultural part of the population, he would call upon the H ouse to con sider whether there were not other taxes from which the manufacturing and other interests ought to be relieved ? He did not think there could be any thing more wise than to relieve the raw material from the burdens which pressed upon it. Without the enterprise of the commer cial part of the kingdom, the' rents could not be paid. The shaft of the column might be repre sented as the manufactures of the kingdom, the base as the agriculture, and the capital as the commerce of the kingdom. Take away the shaft and the capital, the base became useless. He voted for the removal of the agricultural horse tax, because he thought it bore particularly hard upon the farmer, and that he thought its produce went to support that extravagance in the present Administration, which nothing but reducing their means would induce them to retrench. If this tax had been taken off a few days back, he was convinced that they should not have seen the Hon. Members opposite proposing the payment of certain arrears which they had ately been called upon to vote. If his Hon. Friend (Mr. Curwen) brought his Bill to a se cond reading, he should move that it be an in struction to the Committee to introduce a clause for the repeal of the,wool tax. It would be well, as he before said, to consider on the propriety of re pealing, as far as possible, all imports upon raw ma terial. He could not do better on this 'subject than refer them to the speech delivered from the Throne in the year 1821, recommending them to pursue a similar.system of policy. Ile should support the present motion, because he thought the tax it proposed to repeal was inexpedient, and because it offered an opportunity for propos ing the repeal of others. The CHANCELLOR of the ExclitQUEß said; that as this -was not a motion calculated klely for the removal of one tax, but went to introduce pro positions for the, repeal of all others, of whatever description,which might happen to press on the con stituents of the particular Hon. Members who were inclined to propose them,and as he was of opinion that no Government requiring, as this, and every othei must, a financial establishment, could go on without taxes, he could not vote for this motion. With respect to the individual motion itself; he could not be called on to accede to it in obedience to the general wish of the House; for all whO had as yet spoken on it differed from each other.— One thought this tax was not so bad as the Malt Tax ; others thought that the repeal of the tax on Salt would be more beneficial, and so on to the end of the chapter. A financial system, so complicated as ours necessarily was, could no t be kept together without great and constant care, and the firm, and he would say, rnagnani inous resolution of Parliament to support pub lic credit; and without taxes, he confessed that he should despair of ever being able to accomplish these great objects, and he thought no reasonable man would undertake it. He re gretted that they had not the benefit of the Re port of the Agricultural Committee to guide them on this subject. He would appeal to facts to determine whether his Majesty's Ministers had been regardless of economy in their arrange ments. It was not true, as had been asserted, that Government had paid no attention to eco nomy, and he could assure Hon. Members, that if this motion were intended to produce economy, it would not have that effect. With respect to , this particular tax, Hon. Members should bear in mind7the cheapness of provender, &c. for horses, which if this tax did not exist might not be the case. If the Agricultural Committee proposed the repeal of this tax,they would be obliged to propose some other in its stead. This accumu lation of taxes, so much complained of, was owing to causes' which had not been in the con trod of the Ministers of the Crown, and a return from our present state in that respect was only to be accomplished gradually, and in the mean time Ministers were ready to listen to any proposals tendiirg to effect that desirable object. He did not think that the repeal of this tax was calcu lated to restore that degree of prosperity to the agricultural interests which it was so much to be wished they should enjoy. The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving the previous question. Mr. SCARLETT thought that the Right Hon. Gentleman who bad just spoken had given no answer to the Hon. Member for Cumberland, or those who had supported his motion. The ques tion' was not whether taxes were necessary to support their financial system, but whether the present system, of taxation, which was felt to bear so hard and so unequally, was to be changed. The Right Hon. Gentleman said, that although this tax pressed upon the farmer, it ought to be remembered that provender was cheap ; that oats, which the farmer sold, were at a low price. This was as much as saying, in plain English, that the farmer was more able to bear the taxes, in proportion as his. means were diminished. He did not attempt to answer any of the arguments tigainst this tax in particular. He had nothing to say upon the argument against it, because it fell upon those who, from having poor lands, were obliged to employ a number of horses, and their land being less productive, ren dered them less able to support it. In short, no attempt had been made to refute any of the spe cific arguments adduced in support of the motion, in favour of which he (Mr. S.) should vote, princi pally because he was of opinion that the only way to force Ministers to economise, was by taking from them the means of extravagance. Instead of four millions being applied to 'a fallacious sink ing fund, he thought that sum would be much', better remitted from the taxes which bore so hard upon the people. Ile hailed the return of some Hon. Members who were in the habit of supporting the Ministers in that House, to a sense of their duty to the country, and he hoped they would continue constant to their . present re solutions, and that their good example would operate beneficially upon others. Let them re member that economy was necessary in the pre sent state of the country, and above all that economy was public credit. Mr. HusmssoN was ready to go along with his llon. and Learned Friend in saying that econo my was desirable in the present situation of the country, and also that economy was public cre dit, but he could not agree with him in all the propositions which he and his llonourable Friend made to effect that object. Honourable Gentle men opposite did not assist them by pointing out the expediency of repealing one tax, but called upon them to repeal almost every tax from which the revenue was derived. One proposed the; repeal of the wool tax, another of the salt tax, and others on the window and malt taxes. With respect to this particular tax, he confessed he would be ready to waive all considerations and vote for its repeal, if he could be brought to think that it was likely to relieve the agricultu rists in an equivalent degree. He would alSo be ready to give a similar vote, even if the agricul turists themselves thought it was likely to re lieve them. He had made it a point of duty to look into all the one hundred and twelve Peti tions which had been referred to the Agricultural Committee, and out of all of them the most sen sible reason offered for the repeal of the Agri cultural Horse Tax, was to be found in a Peti tion from Parkenoe, in Leicestershire, which stated that they were in that part of the county much employed in frame-knitting, and being in great distress, prayed for the repeal of this tax.-- (A Hon. and Learned Friend who spoke last proposed that they should employ the four millions devoted to the Sinking Fund dif ferently from what they did. His (Mr. Hus kisson's) opinion was, that when people were in debt, they should try to get out of it as soon as possible ; but above all, that they should guard against plunging deeper into embarrass ment. If they pursued a different line of con duct, and became in the end faithless to the public creditor, how could they again apply for relief in their exigencies ? They Could not follow a different course consistently with their honour in peace, or their safety in war. If they drove away the capital of the country by errurs in legislation, or by over-taxation, to other . countries, they would then be in the situation of a country which had lost its stay, its hope, and its support. That being the case with respect to taxation, he was not desirous- of c oncea li ng the importance of that question. He could not, how ever; think that thin country, compared with other countries, was Over-taxed, calculating frOrn the extent of population, and amount of capital, by which all these questions ought to be judged. He. thought that Ireland afforded an instance of heavier taxation in proportion with its-popula tion than this country. Hon. Members had not suggested any substitute for the tax they pro posed to repeal. Ile could not entertain as a subStitute ttkat absurd system put, forth lately, by which the country was to rely entirely upon itself, eonsuming, its own productions. Ile regretted they had not before them the Report of the Agricultural Committee; but he felt perSuaded they would not recommend the repeal of this tax. The time for the consideration of this question, he thought, wag premature, the Report of the Agricultural Com mittee not being Made. For this reason - he thought his Right Hon. Friend right in prOposing the previous question. He was as desirous as any of the Hon. Members he then held in his eye, to see the burdens on the agriculturist re, moved. Convinced as he was that the repeal of this tax would operate as a delusion, and be less beneficial than almost the repeal of any other, he could not support the motion of the Hon. Mem ber for Cumberland. If Hon. Members went on and succeeded in their course of forcing the re peal of all the taxes they had mentioned, the day would come when they would rue the loss of those resources by which Great Britain was ena bled to sway the naval sceptre of the world, and maintain its ascendancy over all other nations of the earth. He called upon all those Hon. Mem bers who had supported the imposition of three millions of new taxes not long since ; to oppose the present motion. L - rd Mivrox Mr. W. BURRELL, and Mr. J. BENETi', severally_ explained_ _ Sir J. NEWPORT was glad to find that the Right Honour. able Gentleman opposite (Mr. Huskisson) saw the state of Ire land in its true light, when he thought it was taxed more hea vily in proportion to its population than was this country. It was true that country had no agricultural horse tax, and yet its agriculture was in a depressed state, but it had many other things to contend with. The Honourable Baronet complained of the protraction of the Report of the Agri: ultural Commit tee, and declared his intention to support the original Motion. • Sir C. BURRELL -contended that the albwance made upon the Schedule of 1816, with respect to - husbandry horses, was not so mush as the Right Hon. Member had stated. He re quest:A the Act might be read.----flt was accordingly read by the Clerk at the table.]—The reduction appeared - to be from •17s. 6d. to 10s. 6d. He opposed the •tax on the ground that it was odious and oppressive. Mr. CALCRAFT admitted that the subject had been suffi ciently discussed; yet he could not suffer the debate to end without adverting to the manner in which th e Ri g ht Honour. able Gentleman .had spoken of the 112 petitions presented by the people. He considered the ridicule and censure cast upon those petitions most improper. Jr.A HUSKISSON, in explanation, complained of misre presentation on the part of the Hon. Member. He gtated that• out of the whole mass of Petitions sent to the Agricultural Committee, he had found but ' one in which this relief of the tax upon husbandry horses was mentioned. Mr. MABERLY said, lie did not see the economy whiSer had been expected from the Right Hon. Gentleman. Mr. BROUGHAM observed, -that. the Petitioners did not state the relief they expected from the tax on husbandry horses, becau - se - they lag it to the House to discover the means of xi dress. - The tax was not- supported -by any of the principl , :s which. justify taxation. He opposed it because it was a tax on the implements of .husbandry. It fell unequally, inasmuch as it affected land that could least afford to pay.the tax. - Mr. CURWEN replied.. The House then divided-- . • For the Motion - - - 141' For the Amendment • - - - - 11;3 Majority for the Motion Mr. CURWEN then brought, in the. Bill, which was read the first time. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER express:d a. wish to have the second reading fixed for Monday: Mr. CURWEN said, he was not prepared to• expect any op position to the Bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he could not consider the question decided that night. _ _ _ Mr. CURWEN then c.bserved, that he should press the Eia to the seend reaehg tomorrow. _ _ Mr. BROUGHAM suggested that the qUestion might be decided at the next stage of the Bill. Mr. BARING said those - Gentlemen who did not agree t...) cut down the finances ought to - havcs at opportunity of deliver ing their opinions. . . The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated. that his object *as to bring the question fairly under discussion. • Sir C. BURRELL considered the opposition vexatious,. and recommended his Hon. Friend to. bring the question forward again as early as possible. . • . • . Mr. HUSKISSON had never heard more extraordinary lan guage than • the term, vexatious opposition. The expression was applied at a moment when the pleasure , before the HbuS, was open to discussion. It was not regularly before.the House. Lord MILTON could not adinit that the measure was not before the House. After the discussion of that night, • and the notice iven, every Member ,must h ave a • k now l e d ge .. o f the principle of the Bill. Mr. CURIVEN declared his intention to bring on the second reading to-morrow. Mr..IIRIGHT asked if the Hon. 31ember had any intention to introduce a substitute for the tax to be repealed ? Sir W. IV: WYNN hoped the House would repeal the tax, which he considered most unjust and odious. It was the duty of his Majesty's Ministers to propose new taxes, not the Hon. Gentleman who introduced the fill. • The Bill was then ordered to be printed, and read a second time to-morrow. Lord MILTON gave notice, that when the Bill came into the Committee, he should move a clause to repeal the tax on foreign wool. Mr. C RIVEN said, he should feel it his _duty to oppos? such a clause. He should be the last man to propose any thing that might affect eti credit of the country. For the measure proposed in this instance, the Chancellor of the Exchequer might readily find a substitute. Mr. MARTIN, of Galway, moved the second reading of the Amendments on the Bill 'for preventing Cruelty to Animals. Mr. GOULBURN moved as an Amendment that they be read a second time that day six months. A division took place, when there appeared— For the B.!cond Reading - - 28 For the Amendment - - - .26 The SPEAKEIL gaVe the casting vote in favour of the Amend ment. The Report of the Committee on the East India Sugaribri. ties Bill was brought up. On the question that it be received, Mr.. FORBES opposed it, and a division took place, when there appeared— . . For the Motion - ' - - 34 Against it - - - - 1 - Majority ' - - - - - The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, hnd the House adjourned at Two o'Ctoox this morning. The Treaty concluded by the. British Agent, Captain Beuce, at Mocha, inspired confidence and restored the usual intercourse to its foirne'r f*.ee footing. The commercial . adiices state, thit in consequence of the surrender of Mocha, con siderable quantities of coffee (for whkli that part of Arabia is so celebrated) had been broUght up the. ited Sea to Suez, Which thence finding their Way to Cairo and Alex,andria, had caused the markets to be filled with that commodity.