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°trice Lt the a by ira• Nuted Da All ation to the L bclity j hi c D the )f th e March oth of 16 60 ;0 4 39 a v .!'" 72 73 53 71 GO 66 68 99 MAGAZINES—(CONCLUDED.) DUBLIN UNIVE.RSITY MAGAZINE. In an enlightened article on the " Irish Question," which leads off this Number, and is singularly tem perate in its tone, the writer, after observing that Ire land' has been too king regarded in the House of Commons as a.mere battle-field for party, gnes on to state that the ofily•etlectual . way•of tranquillising that country is by paying'prompt and diligtht attention to the Wants of the poor, for it is poverty that I there the fruitful; parent of all agitation. 4 , , Want is a bad counsellor,' adds the writer, " and Irishmenhave bad for many years no other. The lavish professions of the dernagoguefall plea.santly on the ears of bitii who has never heard the words.of encouragement from any othe r . L ook upon Ireland, then,- for once; with the 'eyes of benevolenee.and huinanity, and not with the--One-sided glance of a . partisan' -• Help the people. In doi n g so, you Will'coneribute largely to your own. welfare -and prosperity.' There is much , good sense in these remarks,, and the ti me , :trust, is not far distant, w h en an English Minister will act in accord ance with th em. " The Three Suitor's" is a passable rhymed-legend, written in the manner of Ingoldsby. Southey and _his Poems" contains here and.there imneindicious critical comments, but, as a whole, its tone is too encomiastic. Mr.• Anster's translation of Schiller's ballad of " Hero and Leander" is rendered with considerable spirit; we subjoin the closing stanzas *-, .And the winds are hush'd—and panting lip the eastern pathway slanting Their course the steeds of Eos hold ; Ocean smoothes his face of term , — , Peaceful lies the mighty miry Resting in his bed of old. ':;." Softly, with a playful murmit As upon the rocky strand - Break the gently heaving billows, Lo ! they waft a corse to land. lie it is, whose promise plighted Death bath seal'd ; and,—reunited • Now,---one glance—she sees him there. Moan is none —nor teardrop falling— , Statue•like the heart appalling Chillness of that calm despair. From the wave that gives no comfort To the blank sky see her glance, And a glow of kindling triumph . • Lights her pallid countenance. " Powers, with whom is no relenting,— : Unresenting,—unlamenting.-- _ I bow me to the will divine. Ended is my course full early, But I loved, and was loved, dearly, And life's fairest lot was mine. Venus ! while I lived, true priestess Of thy temple I have been, And I die, a willing victim, P t Thine in death, celestial queen T. With hair flying and robes floating Prom the turret, self-devoting, See ! she plungei in the wave, — And, their holy forms receiving, Ocean's God, in triumph heaving, Bears them onward—is their grave. Pontus, wall the rich spoil laden; Thrills, his living depths below, Pouring from his urn exhaustless . Streams that will not cease to flow. CHRISTIAN'S MONTHLY MAGAZINE. This is the Fourth Number of an eccleqiistical, edu cational, literary record and miscellany, and contains, inter alici, a careful digest of all the Clerical intelli gence of the past month. Among the original com munications is a " Secret Ilistory . of Tractarianism," Which takes a decided anti-Pusey view of the question. COLONIAL MAGAZINE. We hav e here one 'of the best of the numerous chaaP magazines devoted to the consideration of colonial questions. The present Number furnishes us with some entertaining matter of information as regards the "Dutch Settlements in Asia." FINE ARTS. -.- DIORAMA. _Nri have been favoured with a - private ei v i ie w w h o i f eh th is e t l h n o te n r e io w r of the Abbey Church of St. Caen at Riouis ' ll icture that di,- Painting exhibited at the Diorama. Plays the most striking effects of lig e li k t t en ai ha id P r s m ha en d y e, i s n un e l v ig e h r ; find moonlight, and maintains unbr oken °la ngs. The first view of the Int e ri or the full length of which the eye . ve 1 s o of t the a glance _ b b ey : o‘ •a r pro duces a most impressive effect on the mind of the spectator, if ° II IY from the extreme reach of the and symmetrically proportio ned magnificentfty arches, e p e rspective, stained windows, and the immense that of win height oftehatemvaustletr -14 which apparen tl y excee d s. Abbey, The Interior is• first of . tin a burst ; o . • , taid•day, which, however, streams .11, beheld in the full light of splendour, but in a sober and mellowed r f ad t i h a e nc s e t , ei j o nst ed sufficient to bring out the varied tints o glass windows. P resently, the, light gradually dies e a n w v a e y . to i n the i h grey, somb re s h adows of evening draw on, pg ts every object i n a thin, - filmy haze the n ight F with i thick a n d raven gloom next' shuts out from view even the m i nutest features of the Abbey, ; and, ulti - mately, the moon rises bright and cloudless, while, at the Berne time, the whole Interior is seen brilliantly illuminated by lamps, which exhibit, in picturesque relief a vast crowd of worhippers, who are kneeling, in the solemn stillness of awe, on the floor of the abbey. We must not omit -4Q. add that during the performance of these rites of wor.' ship, the organ is heard rolling in a majestic stream of sound through the cathedral, and filling the vast space with is harmony. Of all the pictorial delusions that have yet been ~ exhibited at the Diorama, we conceive this to be the most for in no one instance ii it marred by any defects of : - - perfect, ~ drawing, or exaggerated display of colouring Of the second view, namely, Not ame,,ive have already spoken. PARLIAMEN'jrARY-PAPER. REPEAL AGITATION, &c. (IRELAND). Return of all Moneys paid to Frederick Bond Hughes, , Charles Ross, and John Jackson, an Account of any Communications made by the to Govemet relative to the R epeal Agitation in Irmeland, dis rn tingui n shing the. Amounts paid to each; also, the Dates of the several PaYr!lents, specifying the respective periods at which they comme nced, together with Copies of any Instrue. tions given to the above -named Frederick Bond Hughes, Charles Ross, and John Jackson, with respect to the Duties to be performed by them in Ireland:— On the 2 9th SePtember, 1843, Mr. Gurney, the short hand w and writer, was desired to send without delay a short hriter to Ireland, for the purpose of reporting, for the information of the 'Government, the speeches de livered at public Repeal meetings in that part of the an kingdom. Mr. Gurney, on th e 20 t h S eptem b er, se l ecte d to --d dispatched t o I re l and, Mr. Frederick Bond Hughes, . p erform this service. Mr• Gurney's charge on this account, from the period o. extending frora the 29th of September to the 20th . 1r lOctober, 1 843, when Mr. Hughes returned to London, ur . 33:11/d 18s. 6d. ; of whichthe sum of 45/. was paid todr• Hughes when in Ireland, on account, to de fray personal expenses incurred there, and has been deduc ted from IKr. Gurney's account. No i nstructions have been given by the Government to Mr. Frederick Bond Hughes. Mr. Charles Ross has received the sum of 681, e for a a l . report of the peeches delivered at the pub 3 p 3 e Meeting at Donnybrook, held on the 3d of july 18 _ This sum of 681. included the expenses incurred by .n. Mr. 11,083 in travelling to and from Ireland, and the I cidental this service expenses incurred by him while engaged on Mr. Charles Ross was, on the 21st August, 1843, 9 - gaged by the Government to report, for the information of the Government, the speaches delivered at public Repe.raal:lnistaerettiitoilurngsoefheld inireland from the 25th August, 1843 th e t Whe n oes P s ar in lia i m u en t t might assemble for exthirauneration for this service was fixed at 350 L, si've of travelling and other incidental expenses. These travelling and incidental expenses amount to 55/. Total char ed by /tr. Ross for reporting livered t g • a public meetin in ''' account of travelling to and fr- gs lreland, and on in the eriln Ireland es 0. speeches de incurred and incidental ex p enses Mr. Ros s has Pr oyroance of this service, 4731. ecerved on account the following sums • 1843 : July 10 ................. £6B • August 24 ..... .............................. 150 NSePtember 25 .. ... 20 ovember 15 ..................... Neetuber 10 ............... ................ 30 50 1 844 : Ja nuary 25 . ... . . ............ 50 . . ... . .................. Balance d ue to 368 Mr. ROSS.... 105 £473 . - The instructions to Mr. Ross were verbal ; t h ey were, that he .should attend publicßepeal meetings held in Ire land, during the period for which he was engaged, and that he should furnish, for the informatiOn of the Go; 1-eminent, accurate reports of the speeches delivered a .those meetings ; and that he should take such notes 0 f on oath those speeches as would enable him to depose up • ,tO the words spoken. No moneys have been paid by the Government to Mr. John Jackson ; nor have any instructions been issued by the Government to Mr. John Jackson. , Whitehall, Marc h 26 11. MANNERS SUTTON. A., 1844. Hughes, Charles Return of - the A mount paid t o F re d er i c k B on d peuses d ur i n , • Ross, an d John Jackson, for gEx- Queen v. O'Con their nell an A d ttendance at the Trial 0t - the su- Others ; furnished in ur mice o f a Resolution of the House of Commons,P dated March 1, 1844 :--- TAE QUEEN V. O'CONNELL AND OT IIEIIB. Paid to and for Frederick Bond Hughes, . short-hand writer, for his attendance as a witness in this case 67 days, at U. Is. per di em for maintenance, and 31. 3s. for loss of time and in lieu of taking notes, &c. during that period . Expenses of journeys to and fro between Dublin and London £2Bl 8 0 20 0 0 Paid to Cha r l es Ross, newspaper reporter, for 37 days attendance as a witness, at two guineas per diem Ex penses of journeys to and fro between bublin and London • John Jackson : this witness neither ap plied f,)r nor was whatsoe ver. paid any expenses £3Ol 8 0 £77 14 0 20 0 0 £97 14 0 • Zildare-strect, DWM. , Mar ch 14, IXIS, 1844. Crown Solicitor. üblin ='~ :,. COURT OF ALDERMEN. Yesterday a Court was held for the dispatch of business. et EXTENSION OF THE PRACTICE or ATTORNEYS. The LORD MAYOR presentecithe following petition to the Court " The petition of David Williams Wire, solicitor, showeth that your petitioner has been admitted and sworn, and is now practising as a solicitor in the tligh Court of Chancery, and in the Courts of Law at West -minster, as appears by thc certificate hereunto an nexed. - _ " Your petitioner, therefore, humbly prays that he may be admitted an attorney of the Mayor's Court of London?" Alderman 'BROWN presented a similar petition from William Davis, ofColeman-street. He stated that he felt himself bound to present the petition from the respectable individual whose name was annexed, but he believei there were many interests affected by it, and he, therefore, thought that the matter should be referred to a Committee, and that the attorneys of the Mayor's Court should he informed of the application, and summoned to attend before a Committee upon the subject. Mr. WIRE, on being called upon by the Lord Mayor, stated that he made the application under the authority of the 6th and 7th Victoria, cap. 73, which enacted that every person who should have been duly admitted - an attorney of any one o f the superior courts of law at Westminster, should be entitled to be admitted an attorney in any other of the said courts, or in any inferior court of law in England and Wales." He (Mr. Wire) had been admitted in the superior courts, and he now claimed to be admitted an attorney of the inferior court of the Mayor and Aldermen of the City of London, commonly called the Mayor's. Court. He was fully aware that the practice of that court had been exclusively confined to four gentlemen, and that they would claim a vested interest in the monopoly, having either purchased or obtained these places by the gift of the Corporation. But notwithstanding such practice, and notwithstanding its previous legality, he submitted that the Act of last session completely destroyed any chartered or vested rights, and threw open the Court to all prac titioners, admitted by the superior courts, and he was borne out in the opinion by the Act itself, by the ex ceptions introduced, and by the interpretations already put upon it by the Recorders in other towns and cities, who, notwithstanding the previous exclusion, now, under the authority of the Act, admitted all practi tioners duly qualified. He believed it would be un necessary further to argue the question as a matter of law, but if it were necessary, -he was fortified in the view he had taken of the . Act by authorities. He would.now, therefore, turn to the benefits likely to result to the public from the throwing open of the Court. It was a Court of large jurisdiction, and em braced both a legal anal an equitable side. Alderman BROWN said that this was a question of grave consideration, and deeply affecting the rights of others, and it ought, therefore, be referred to a Com mittee, to examine and report upon. Mr. WIRE said, with the concurrence of his Learned Friend near him, he had no objection to a referende, provided the Committee considered the matter forthwith, as he was anxious to get the answer of the Court, to enable him, if necessary, to go to the -Court of- Queen's Bench for a tnanclamus. Alderman T. WOOD and Alderman BROWN se conded a proposition to refer the matter to a Com mittee, and to advise with the law officers of the Corporation thereon.—The motion was unanimously agreed to. Subsequently a similar petition was presented, from Mr. Hartley, of New Bridge-street, solicitor; and it was stated that several more petitions upon the sub ject would be likely to follow, it being the determina- , tion of the profession to open the Court. MR. BARNARD GREGORY. Sir PETER LAURIE called the attention of the Court to a statement which had been referred to by .Mr. Wells, the late Common Councilman of the ward of Farringdon. It appeared from the newspapers, that Mr. Wells had waited upon the Lord Mayor, and represented that he had seen a statement in some newspaper of conduct adopted towards Mr. Barnard Gregory in the gaol of Newgate of the most unjusti fiable description. Mr. Well's complaint threw a vast deal of odium upon the magistrates of London and the Sheriffs ; and it was evident that there ex isted not the least ground of complaint. The whple of the information upon which Mr. Wells grounded his charge was most grossly false —(Hear, hear) — and the whole accusation - consisted of a monstrous series .of exaggerations. 7 —(Hear, hear.) Sir C. S. HUNTER said that if the Court noticed newspaper paragraphs they would soon have constant employment chalked out for them. Alderman FAREBROTHER objected to the mention of the matter at all, and said that the notice of it in that Court would answer the purpose of Mr. Wells, by giving his name the respectability of having been used in it.—(Laughter.) The accusation of cruelty was beyond anything absurd. The -LORD Mayon said he had told Mr. Weill that he believed there was not the slightest foundation for the statements to which he made reference, and that the whole was a tissue of the most ridiculous exagge .rations. Sheriff MUSGROVE declared that the only thing at all in the statement fora which there was the least foundation was the assertion that Mr. Gregory's health was suffering; of that fact there was not the slightest doubt. It was palpable that Mr. Gregory's health was rapidly declining, and he re gretted to have it in his power to mention that circumstance. He, had. spoken to Mr. Gregory upon the subject of the treatment in the prison, and was assured by him that he had every accommodation and attention which any imprisoned person could ex pect, and surely Mr. Gregory might be allowed to judge for himself on such a subject.—(Hear, hear.) He (Sheriff Musgrove) regretted to declare that Mr. Gregory's health was rapidly declining. Here the,conversation ended. After the transaction of a little local business, the Court adjourned. ROYAL ACADEMYBALL .—Her Majesty having been graciously pleased to notify her command that the annual fancy dress ball for the benefit of the Royal Academy of Music shall take place, under her especial patronage,. on Friday, the 31st of May, at the Hanover-square Rooms, as usual, it is to be hoped that the arrangements for the season will not clash with such a national object, and that no rival benefits will be announced; the day for.. the ball being fixed thus early to prevent any disagreeable competition. NEW BILL FOR THE PREVENTION OF FlRE.—This Bill contains thirty-two sections, with three schedules. The object of the Bill is to supply water engines by parishes, and to give rewards to persons engaged in the prevention of tires. It is proposed that the measure shall come into operation on the Ist of January next. There is a provision by which it is declared that the churchwardens shall pay the rewards mentioned, and then recover them from the parties, whether housekeepers or lodgers, where the fire occurred, or whose chimney was on fire. In default of payment the parties may be summoned before magistrates, and distress warrants is sued. The following rewards are set forth in one of the sche .dulea To the turncock belonging to any waterwork in whose division of main or pipe water shall be found on, or into which water shall first come on the opening of any plug, at any fire, in any building, a sum not exceeding 10s. 2. To the engine keeper who first brings a parish engine or other large engine, to kelp in extinguishing any fire, being of the required di mensions, and in good order and complete, according to the directions of this Act, a sum nut exceeding twenty shillings. 3. To the keeper of the second parish engine or other large engine which shall be next brought, being of such required dimensions, and in order and complete, as aforesaid, a sum not exceeding ten shillings. 4. 'lO the keeper of the third parish-engine or other large engine which shall be next brought, being of the required dimensions, and in order and complete, as aforesaid, a sum not exceeding five shillings. 5. But in every case in which the fire shall have been con fined to a chimney or chimneys, the rewards to be given shall be as follow :—To the turncocks and to the engine-keepers of the first and second engines only a sum not exceeding five shillings for the turncock and ten shillings to the engine keeper only. 6. To the person who first gives notice to the turncocks and engine-keepers, or any of them of the district, of the occurrence of any fire in such district, a sum not ex ceeding two shillings and sixpence. COMPLETE HISTORY OF THE WAR IN CHINA, &C. —We are requested to state that Mr. Colburn, of Great Marlborough-street, has this day published "The Narrative of the Voyages and Services of the Nemesis, from 1840 to 1843 ; and of all the combined Naval and Military Opera tions in China; together with Important Notices of that Country, a complete Account of the Colony of Hong-Konei, and Remarks on our future Intercourse with the C hinese, &c., from the Notes of Commander W. H. Hall, R.N. and Per sonal Observations, by W. D. Bernard, 14:sq., A.ll, &c., in 2 vols. Bve. ' with Maps and Plates, price 325. bound ; whi ch ca n now be had of all Booksellers. Mr. Colburn has also just published, " The Narrative of the Last Campaign in .Affghanistan, under General Pollock," by Lieut. Greenwood, of her Majesty's 31st Regiment; forming a Companion to the Narratives of Lady Sale and Lieut. Eyre, in 1 vol. small Bvo., with Plates, price 12s. bound. • WIIITEFRIARS ; OR, THE DAYS OF CHARLES THE sEcoNuD ; an Historical Romance. A third edition of this Work, we observe, has just appeared. "They who look in a romance for marvellous and thrilling incident, rapid and startling effects, perpetual perils, and hair-breadth escapes ; for numerous characters all drawn in colours of bold relief, will here find a book after their own hearts. No one can deny the ingenuity and skill with which the author has wrought his story; and the power of description evidenced in all his principal scenes, many of which actually stand be fore the eye like so many pictures on the stage. Beginning in the year 1667, and ending in 1683,,we have the great fire of London, the Titus Oates' plot, Colonel Blood's conspiracy, the. troubles in Scotland, with the battle of Bothwell Brigg, the Rye-house plot, and other historical events of the period, all introduced with considerable skill and effect. In his general views of the aspect of the times, of the state of society, and in his description of London and its purlieus as they existed in those days, the author has been very suc cessful. The jolly scenes in Alsatia are perfect in their way. Amongst-the numerous historical characters which are intro duced in these pages, we may mention those of Charles the Second and his Queen, Rochester, Buckingham, Monmouth, S h a ft es bury, Russell, Sydney, Judge Jeffreys, Titus Oates, Colonel Blood, Nell Gwyn, &c."—Morning Chronicle. FATAL ACCIDENT ON THE DOVER RAILWAY. — Monday afternoon a fatal accident occurred on the above line to a poor fellow named Nunn, an under-guard. The ma n, it appears, was proceeding with his train from Dover to London, and while passing under one of the arches, at the Maidstone -road station, he got up, and his head came in con tact with the brickwork, killing him instantly. When the train arrived at Tunbridge, his mate discovered hint lying on the carriage where he had previously sat, his head being literallk_flasW to klecei• lie was, married, and was a 4ober and steady nazi, TUE Cifig s Low.now3- wmnvmsnAy IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, April 2. ROYAL COMMISSION. Their Lordships assembled this afternoon at a Quarter before Four o'clock. and the House of Commons having been summoned to their Lordships' bar, the Speaker -shortly afterwards made his appearance at the bar ac companied by several Meinbers. The Royal Assent was then given by Coininission; in the usual manner, to the -Mutiny Bill, the Marine Mutiny Bill, the Annual In— demnity Bill, the Berri!! (Huntingdonshire) Inelosure Bill, and the Mansfield (Huntingdonshire) Inclosure Bill. The Commons having withdrawn, their Lordships adjourned during pleasure. . Their Lordships assembled again at Five o'Clock. The Earl of ROSEBERY presented two petitions from Manchester and Birkenhead, against certain pro visions in the Dissenters' Chapels Bid. Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented a petition from the Rel. Dr. Hook, Vicar of Leeds, praying the House to pass a Bill to divide the parish and vicarage of Leeds into separate parishes and vicarages, for ecclesiastical purposes only. Lord LORTON presented petitions from. Suffolk against the grant to the College of Maynooth. Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from a place in Ireland complaining of the late decision - of their Lordships' House with , respect to Presbyterian mar riages. been thought proper to ask at their hands. considerations, and solely on account of his distinguished Among those supplies was a large sum voted for the maintenance of a considerable number of men for the navy. He was one of those who was most willing to concur in that vote ; but in considering . thelarge aliment that was voted, he did think it necessary to say a few words on this occasion, though he might raise a dis; cussion on it hereafter, on the manner in which that number of men wits disposed of. With respect to the number of men, though it was considerably lass than the number noted in 1841, yet it was very considerably more than in 1e35. The statement abroad was that the navel force in the Medi terranean was to be reduced to a very small number of ships of the line; it was even said that only one ship of the line V% as to be left in the Mediterranean. In that case he must say that he did not think such a reduction would be hi accordance with the general policy of this country. They must recollect that they had some im portant stations in the Mediterranean, and important interests there that might call for their interposition. There might not be at this moment any danger, nor any prospect of other than amicable relations with foreign Powers ; but should it be otherwise, and any case for their interposition should arise, the sudden augmentation of the navy that would be neces sary. would probably create great alarm. Even in the present circumstances of the country, there was the state of affairs in Morocco, there were insurrectionary movements in Italy, and any circumstances of this kind might give rise to the necessity of diplomatic represen tations to foreign Powers. So small a naval force, in case of that necessity arising, wculd not be ade quate to giving support to the interests of the country. lie thought it necessary to make those observations with respect to the disposal of the fleet in the Mediterranean. Sir ROBERT PEEL confessed that he felt sur prised at the observations of the Noble Lord. The Noble Lord did not allege that British interests had suffered, but he stated that it would be advisable to have a large force in the Mediterranean. Why, that might be advisable with regard to any portion of the world, and there might be good grounds sit having a large force in North America, the Pacific, and the Baltic. This might be true, but he understood the sound con stitutional principle was to leave the appropriation of the forces to the Executive Government. Now, the Government thought it right to have a num ber of vessels for exercise in the Channel, which would be ready upon any emergency. There was sometimes great advantage in concentrating their forces. Let not the Noble Lord suppose that their interests in the Me- ' diterranean would be endangered because the fleet was off the month of the Thames or in the Channel. The Noble. Lord. should allow the Executive Government to exercise its own discretion. No doubt their interests in the Mediterranean were important, but there might be reasons for assembling them in another place, which he was unwilling to enter upon. But if the Noble Lord had a confidence in his judgment, which was just in many.respects—if he - was prepared to take the com mend of the Channel fleet—(Much laughter)—surely he might allow the Executive Government to take that course which it seemed best for them to pursue. Lord PALMERSTON said that he felt no want of confidence in his Noble Friend—(Laughter)—in any command in which resolution and determination would be required.—( Hear.) And if his spirit and determination, which were well known, were backed by the professional skill of his Hon. and Gallant Friend the Member for Merylebone, he thought they would be very formidable. The disposition of the naval force was certainly to be left at the discretion of the Executive Government, but yet the Executive Government exercised that discretion subject to any remarks which might be made in Parlia ment. That discretion certainly was to be exercised subject to a responsibility to that House. He_ thought, therefore, that his Noble Friend, in taking the opportu nity which he had taken of making these remarks before hand, and directing the consideration of the Govern ment to the subject, had not departed from the appro priate exercise of those functions which devolved on him as a Member of that House. It was true that it was only a question of prudence, according to the existing state of things, whether we should concentrate a large force on the home station, or distribute it more equally among the different foreign stations, where its presence might be required, not for purpose's of hosti lity, but to give that moral effect and support to our commercial interests which the presence of a naval force invariably afforded. In the present state of things, if anything occurred requiring the presence of a large naval force on the home station, it would be quite as easy to order the force home from the Mediterranean as to or der the force from the home station to the Mediterra nean, so that the argument of the Right Honourable the e andßaltic, the ionia then Islands, Pacific, her o there fore Baronet was equally applicable to either side of the question. There certainly were grounds for hay ing a large force in the Mediterranean, which didwre had not G applybr in the Mediterranean—we h a d co l on i es th ere . the coasts of the United States. We had important sta tionstar,to Malta, h fore it was natural that we should maintain a large naval force there, and the maintenance of such de fence there implied nothing hostile or suspicious towards foreign Powers ; but if a large force were to be sent either to the Baltic, the coast of the United States, or the Pacific, it would be supposed either that we apprehended hostilities from some other Powers, or that we intended something against them. The cases were not parallel. The question of the dis posableness of the force applied, as he had shown before, as much to the one case as to the other. Our commer cial and political relations were of more importance in the Mediterranean than anywhere else on the face of the globe. More things might happen there in which the interests of Great Britain were concerned than could happen elsewhere. If, therefore, the Government intended only to maintain one sail of the line on that station, he contended that they would not be properly representing British interests in a quarter in which the required the most scrupulous care and attention. lie could testify, from his own experi ence as Foreign Secretary, that nothing was more com mon than for British merchants connected with the Mediterranean to apply for protection and assistance. Considering the difficulties which might arise from time to time in that quarter, he thought it not a wise dis tribution of the naval forces to have only one ship of the line in the Mediterranean, and not the ordinary amount of force usual on former occasions. If it were a privi leee of Members of that House to cri ticise events after they happened, he thought it a more useful privilege to throw out suggestions before the occurrence of events. Mr. HUME was sorry to hear an y objection to the reduction of the naval force. He had lately received a letter from a naval officer at Malta, in which the writer stated that. there could be nothing more disadvantageOus to the interests of the navy than leaving large line- of battle-ships in the Mediterranean. They laid up at Malta and other places there for twelve months, and were much exposed to losing their He also trusted that the Right lion. Bart. wou!d see the necessity of removing the swarm of gun-boats from the Shannon. REGISTRATION BILL (IRELAND). Mr. WYSE cemplained of so early a day after Easter being fixed for the second reading of this Bill, as had been announced by the Right lion. Baronet opposite (Sir R. Peel). If it was necessary that the Bill should come into operation at once, it should have been introduced at an earlier period of the session. Ile thought it would be more judicious to defer the second reading until a later merits. EMIGRATION . . Mr. C. BULLER said the Noble Lord, the Secretary for the Colonies, had promised, .on a former occasion, that the Report of the Emigration Commissioners should be laid, on the table of the House before Parliament ad journed for the Easter holidays. He begged to ask if they might hOpe to receive it an early period? Lord STANLEY said he was happy to say ho was able to realise his promise, inasmuch as he held the Report in his band. The Report was subsequently brought up by the Noble Lord, and ordered to be laid upon the table. IRISH FRANCHISE 13ILL: Lord ELIOT brought up the Bill upon this subject, for which leave was given last evening, and it was read a first time. period. . Sir R. PEEL said, he would not, on any account, press the second reading of the Bill against the wish of Irish _i l_nvAirr Members. Cunsideiing the feeling which a ppeared to ex ing of the Bill from Monday (the 15 th) u nt i l Friday. l‘sitr. on . the subject,n. wished would hledtok npo stpone the second read intention of the Government to lay before the House any digest or code of criminal laws, founded on the report of the Criminal Law Commisstoners. He begged also to ask the Hon. Member for Lewes, whether it was his intention to bring forward that evening his motion with respect to probate duty. Sir R. PEEL said he was not prepared to int ro d uce anyilnlti.ollrtnomrteiofonrmonththeactristunbi subject was already in the poa nal law of this country. All the session of the House. Mr. ELPIIINSTONE said that so many gentlemen had left town, that he did not think it would be desira ble to bring on that evening the motion to which the Hon. Gentleman referred. CHINA. Sir R. PEEL brought up certain dispatches respecting China, amongst which was one with respect to the treaty lately entered into between this country and China. Ordered to be laid on the table. Mr. HUME was desirous that her Majesty's Govern ment should give the public a fac-simile of the Chinese treaty, with an English translation.—(Laughter.) He ) - -and it would not be tnought it would be very acceptable to the public as a ask if the Hon. Mem beroktnioenw7theaCtihdiniresslngua--e? was it seconded by a whose observation was not distinctly veryi na s t i t : . r it t) o f ß e expensive.Eu r i curiosity—( i p t c-- E ( L A b elgaguegdh to , l s 'O a TTINGER. g —(Laughter.) g e niut made ire.il nA a wsh 7 olE, heard in the gallery, but exeityed, that t e i h f a lau m gl o it t e io r n in w t e h re e understood •o iltl m .Yto Sir H. Pottinger—(who, after I n I , a o d u e s e , , h o w was would usl IdpitsacpcHeo rETisecond Sir R. PEEL said he could not lay upon the table the , had now retired, against last diplomatic the Government)—with athsee w r v i ile e o s f a ' n n e d a r r e l out bearing testimony to the singular ability,zeal,firmness, y pr h es al e f n a, ta c t e i t , f ) t n ua t. and discretion, with which he had performed the duty undertakk.n by him under critical and difficult circum stances, and performed by him in a manner which se cured to him the c onfidence and esteem of the Chinese Government, equally with that of the Government which he represented. — ( lle ar , hear.) He was disposed to say more upon the merits of that distinguished gen tleman, but he was aware that a panegyric was weak ened by being diluted. -- (Hear.) He would only say, that it was impossible to bear higher testimony than he could to the merits of Sir Henry Pottin!;.er.—(Hear.) Lord PALMERSTON rose to bear testimony to the truth of the handsome eulogy which the Right Hon. Gentleman had passed upon that distinguished public officer.—(Hear, hear.) lie did not think that the eulogy could be exaggerated, for those who witnessed His ser vices only regretted that he had not still greater oppor tunities of rendering services to his country. It was only by his own merits the gallant and distinguished officer obtained the opportunity of so well earning the thanks of the Government and the country: When he (Lord Pahnerston) recommended to his coll e agues the appoint ment of Sir Henry Pottinger, he did so without any political consideration. Indeed, uto the present mo, meat lie did not k now what Sir Henry's general political sentiments might be. When he (Lord Palmerston) asked his colleagues to request the assistance of Sir Henry Pottinger, he had no per sonal acquaintance with him, and he was only led ' to make choice of him in consequence of the ability which he had displayed in India.—(Hear, hear.) He must also say that irwas only justice to the present Go vernment to state that the successor of Sir Henry Pot tinier had been selected without WV Intlrd to political RESTRICTIONS. ON TRADE. Lord MONTEAGLE brought in a Bill to repeal cer tain laws which restricted the purchase and sale of goods. In Ireland none of. these Acts had been repealed, and his object, was to make the law similar to that iu Eng land, and also to improve the latter. This was only pursuing the same course which had been long since re commended in the House of Commons. He wished that the Bill should be immediately printed, and that it should. be read a second time as early after Easter as possible. The Noble Lord concluded by moving that it be now read a first time. The. Bill was then read a first time. The Marquis of BUTE presented petitions from Ayr, Perth, and several other places in Scotland, praying for the abolition of the tests which were required to be taken .by Dissenters on entering the several Scotch Universities. APPEALS AND WRITS OF ERROR. Lord CAMPBELL rose to lay on the table of the House a Bill for removing objections which could now be taken to the administration of justice in this country with respect to appeals and writs of error. The Bill provided that upon 64 defendant giving security , in such sum as the court might direct that any fine that might be imposed should be paid, and thatthe defendant should be forthcoming to undergo any sentence which might be pronounced upon him, that sentence should be suspended anti' the court of appeal had decided upon the merits of the case. The Bill would not come into opera tion.until the 9th of August. FEES TO JUSTICES' CLERKS. The Marquis of L ANSDOWNE rose to move for a return from each of the clerks of the peace at the several sessions in England and Wales, of the amount of the fees received by him during each of the last three years ending the 31st of December, 1842. This was a matter which pressed most heavily upon the poorer classes of persons, because in the greater number of in stances, the fines did not amount to one quarter of the amount of the costs, and in many other cases the costs were thirty or even forty times the amount of the fine. Thus there coulkbe no proportion between the crime and the expense to which the unfortunate culprit was subjected. He felt sure this was a subject in which all their Lordships must feel a deep interest. It had been mooted in this House some time ago, and he trusted that the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home De partment would take this matter into his serious con sideration. The Duke of WELLINGTON said he had made in quiry into this subject, and he found that those fees did always go to the magistrate's clerk. It was a matter of great importance, and one to which her Majesty's Go vernment would give every consideration. Lord WHARNCLIFFE was informed upon good authority that those fees did not go to the magistrates' clerks, but were generally appropriated to defraying the incidental expensPs of the trial, such as paying witnesses and constables, so that very often only a very small amount of the fees reached the clerk of the peace. Lord BEAUMONT said the principal part'nt the fees went in payment to the constables, whose expenses were regulated according to the distance they had to travel. Lord CAMPBELL said that as the Government in tended to take up this subject, he would suggest to them the propriety of regulating the fees to clerks of the peace, so that they should not depend upon the length of the proceedings. •He knew that great extortion had been practised in consequence of the fees being regulated according to the length of the proceedings to which they related. After a few words from Lord REDESDALE and the Earl of CuLVUESTER, the Returns were ordered. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. Messengers from the Commons brought up a Copy of the First Report of the Select Committee of the House of Commons, appointed to consider the law affecting Joint-stock Companies, which, on the motion of Lord MONTE AGLE, was ordered to be printed. Oa the motion of the Duke of WELLINGTON, Their Lordships then adjourned till Tuesday, the 16th instant. HOUSE OF COMMONS, April 2. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a Quarter before Four o'clock. ROYAL COMMISSION. The Deputy-Usher of the Black Rod shortly after. wards entered the House, and summoned the Members to appear at the bar of the House of Peers, to hear the Royal Assent given by Commission to several Bills. The SPEAKER then left the House, accompanied by the greater part of the Members present. On his return, The SPEARSR annotmced that he had been to the Bar of the House of Lords, where he had heard the Royal Assent given by Commission to certain Bills (for which see Lords' Report). RETURNS. Certain returns were presented at the bar of the House, and ordered to be laid on the table. PULTENEY TOWN HARBOUR BILL. The Pulteney Town Harbour Improvement Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. 'DURHAM AND COUNTY COAL COMPANY BILL. Mr: - REDHEAD YORKE moved the further con , sideration of the Report on the Durham and County Coal Company to. Mr. P. HOWARD presented a petition from the cotton-spinners of Carlisle and its neighbourhood, de precating any attempt on the part of the Legislature to limit the hours of labour in factories. Mr. TAT roN EGERTON presented a petition from a place in Lancashire, praying for the abolition of the duty upon raw cotton. Lord ELIOT presented a petition from Cornwall praying that the owners and not the occupiers of small farms might be taxed for the poor rates. Mr. M. GIBSON moved that the petition which he had presented yesterday from Manchester, relative to the Post-office, be printed with the Votes.—Agreed to. On the motion of Mr. HUME, returns were granted of sundry payments in the Excise department. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.—THE ADJOURN MENT. After a pause of considerable duration in the busDun iness of the House, during which Mr. Hume, Mr. T. coinbe, Lord John Russell, and Mr. Manners Sutton, were severally in close conference with Sir Robert Peel, Mr. GLADSTONE brought up, and laid on the table, certain returns relating t o the state of agriculture in Leicestershire. Sir ROBERT PEEL moved that the House, at its rising, should adjourn till Monday, the 15th instant. He wished, at the same time, to state that he had promised the Noble Lord opposite (Lord J. Russiell) that he should, on moving the adjournment, explain the order in which the Bills brought in by the Government, or intended to be brought in, should be proceeded with after Easter. In consequence of the absence of his Right Hon. Friend, the Secretary for the Home Department, he was unable at that moment to give the explanation. He would take care, however, that the order of pro ceeding should be set forth in the papers of the house to-morrow. He hoped that in the course of the evening he would have an opportunity of commtini eating with his Right Hon. Friend (Sir J. Graham), and if so, he would state, before the House rose, what the course of business would be. In the meantime he should say that it would be a great public inc. mvenience if the Irish Franchise Bill should not pass before June, and it was therefore his intention that the Bill should be read a second time on Monday, the 15th, if the House would allow it, and that the discussion be taken in Committee An Hon. Member opposite (Mr. Ewart) was, he be— lieved, anxious to know if the Government proposed to do anything respecting charitable trusts, and he (Sir Robert Peel) had to state that he believed his Noble Friend the Lord Chancellor would, that evening, in another place, give notice of a Bill upon the subject. Another Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) was anxious to know what progress.had been made in opening commu nications with Paraguay. A Commissioner had been sent out there by the Government, but, unfortunately, from his over-desire to make himself useful, he caused great prejudice to be created, and he had been obliged to leave the country.—(Loud laughter.) Since then, however, news of a more satisfactory character had been received, and he indulged the hope that England, in com mon with France and Brazils, would be able to make sonic progress in opening friendly and commercial communi cations with that part of the world.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME trusted the Government would avail itself of every opportunity of extending communications with that portion of the world, as he believed it would be very beneficial in effecting a considerable extension of commerce. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he was satisfied with the statement of the Right Hon. Baronet, that at a later part of the evening, or in the orders of the day, they should be made acquainted with the routine which Government would follow in regard to their measures after Easter. With regard to the proposal as to the Irish Franchise Bill, personally he had no objection to it, but the Right Hon. Baronet must not be surprised if any of the Irish Members who were not pre sent that evening should, on the proposal to go into a Committee of Supply, on the first day after the holidays, think it proper to oppose that motion. There had been a very thin attendance of Irish Members for some days, and the great majority of them were doubtless wholly unacquainted at the pre sent moment with the main provisions or that Bill. There was another subject on which he would take that opportunity of saying a few words to the Heusi. They had not unhappily made great progress in legislation before the Easter recess; but they had per? mainly shown their loyalty to the Crown in a very plain manner, for they had voted most willingly and almoo unaulmowili. all tbp suit licsi it 4aci MOR7qINGrI I , 4PRTt. 8, 1644 . ciple of responsibility and individual control were much weaker in those exceptional cases in which, either from the amount of capital required, or the extent of risk, or froth some other. cause, they could not in anY other way work. out the purpose. On this ground, therefore, he should move, lastly, for leave to bring in a Bill to enable private persons associating in legal partnership to sue and be sued. He would not now enter into any further detail, but he would now move that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider the state of the law of partnership for the purposes which ho had described: . • The House then wentinto Committee on the Bill. Mr. HAWES would not offer any opposition to the introduction Of the Bill, which he believed was one •of great importance, and from whiCh the commercial corn•- munity would derive great advantage. He would re serve for a future occasiOn what he had to say on the details of the measure: , He hoped, however, that the House would not interfere 'further than the Committee •had recommended. • Mr. HASTIE asked whether it was intended to in clude joint-stock banks in the Bill? - Mr. 'GLADSTONE said that the measure was founded upon the recommendation of the Committee, from the inquiries of which joint stuck banks were ex cludect . . Mr. TUFNELL wished to know whether it was the intention of Government, in their proposed Bill, to limit the responsibility of shareholders? Mr. GLADSTONE said there certainly was no in tention to limit that responsibility. Leave was then given to introduce the Bills asked for by the Right Hon. Gentleman;' and the House resumed. MENAI BRIDGE. Mr. GORE moved for a copy of any report of Mr. Provis to the Commissioners of Woods and Forests since the Ist day of October, 1843,, oa the Menai Bridge.—Agreed to. HARBOUR OF REFUGE. Mr. GORE also moved for a copy of all letters of in structions to the naval officers and civil engineers ap pointed in 1843 to report upon the harbours of Holy head and Port Dynllaen, as a packet station between London and Dublin, and as a harbour of refuge for the Channel trade.—Agrced to. GRAND JURY CESS (IRELAND). Mr. WYSE then moved fur copies of the lists re turned by the collectors of grand jury cess for the county of the city of Dublin, to the clerks of the peace for the said city, containing the names of men qualified to serve as jurors for the said city for the year 1844, 'showing the corrections and adjudications made therein by the Right Hon. the Recorder of the said city, pur suant to the provisions of the Act 3 and 4 Will. IV., c. 91. Also, a copy of the general list of jurors, made out from such lists by the said Recorder. Copy of the "Jurors' Book for the year 1844," as delivered to the Sheriff of the city of Dublin, or to his under sheriff, or the town clerk. Copy of the ." Special Jurors' List," made by the said Sheriff, or, his under-sheriff, for the year 1844. Copies of all correspondence with or by the clerks of the peace for the said city, in relation to the re vision of the jurors list for the year 1844, and especi ally between them and the Recorder for the said city, ' and Mr. Peirce Mahony. Copies of all affidavits filed in the Crown side of the Court of Queen's Bench. in Ire land, since the Ist day of December, 1843, in the cause of " The Queen against O'Connell and others," and of all protests made vy the clerk of the Crown, also filed in the said cause, at the strikifig . of the jury in the month of January last; together with a copy of the challenge ' to the jury array in the said cause, and of the demurrer filed in reply to the same. Lord ELIOT was understood to say that he could not consent, to the motion. Mr. SHAW said that as the motion personally con cerned him, he hoped the House would excu e him for saying a few words on the subject. He thought that the House had no jurisdiction in the matter.' He should object to the House making any order of the kind. This was a matter of judicial adjudication, and if he submit ted to make a return of this kind, there was no return which he might not be called on to make. If the House sanctioned the motion, he should, with all possible re spect, refuse to comply with the order. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that if the Right Hon. Gentleman opposed the motion because there were not sufficient grounds for it, he could understand it ; but when the Right Hon. Gentleman took so unusual a step of opposing it, because it was a judicial proceeding. and that he would refuse to comply with the order of the House, if it were made, he really thought that the Right Hon. Gentleman was taking a ground that was altogether untenable.—(Hear, hear.) He did not say that the House ought to agree to the motion if the Right Hon. Gentleman said there were no sufficient grounds for making it; but if an order of the House were made for similar returns from the Court of Queen's Bench, he felt convinced that the Chief Justice would comply with the order of the House. He would not un dertake to say that that House had no power to call for notes of judicial proceedings. Such a doctrine could not be supported. It would be lowering the authority . of the House to suppose that it could be so, and without giv ing any opinion as to whether or not the motion ought to be granted, he must protest against the doctrine of the Right Hon. Gentleman which denied that the House had any right to investigate any course of conduct which he, as a judge, might have thought proper to pursue. Mr. SHAW said the Noble Lord was mistaken. He (Mr. Shaw) did not deny the right of the House of Com mons to inquire into his conduct, and to address the Crown for his removal if it chose, but he said they had no right to his notes which he had taken judicially. If the return were ordered to be made from the Queen's Bench, he felt convinced that the judges of that court would not do it. The Noble Lord must be aware of a previous case in which Lord Holt had refused to obey an order of the House of Lords for the production of his notes upon a trial. He told the House of Lords that they had no control over these notes. He did not deny for one moment the right of the House to investigate his conduct, but they had no right to call for his judicial notes, and they would be useless, because the House possessed no power to reverse or affect his decision in any way. • Lord J. RUSSELL did not mean to contend that these notes were necessary for the House to adjudicate, for it had no power of adjudication on the subject. But they might be necessary for the purpose of investigation. He would take the celebrated Macclesfield case in which the House had called for all the notes, papers, and re cords of the court. Mr. SHAW admitted the right of the House to call for the records of the court, but he denied that they had any right to call for a judge's notes. Sir G. GREY did not understand' the objection of the Right Hon. Gentleman. It might be necessary to have the original lists and to compare them with the lists which had been ultimately adjudicated on. It was use less to overlook the fact that discrepant statements had been elsewhere made on the subject, that it was matter of dispute, and that these returns would show what statement was the correct one. Mr. WYSE said he must insist on his motion notwith standing the opposition of the Noble Lord. Sir R. PEEL could not take upon him . to define what were the powers of the law respecting motions, for they very much depended on the nature of the case. For instance if an Hon. Member were to move for the private memoranda of a judge in a trial he could not think it probable the House would call, for those met moranda. Mr. WARBURTON said a great blunder had been committed, and it was very . desirable to know how it had occurred. He would advise his Hon, Friend to get what papers he could, and if they were not satisfactory, to move for a Select Committee. Mr. HUTT said it did not appear that any evil would arise from the production of the papers, and the with holding of them would probably create distrust where it did not now exist. Mr. WYSE said it was a matter of importance, but if the returns were granted at all, they should be granted as soon as possible ; otherwise the information would be of no use. The Hon. Member then withdrew the motion. POST-OFFICE. Mr. HAWES then moved fora return of the number of chargeable letters which have passed through the London General Post (inwards and outwards) since the first general reduction of postage, on the sth day of December, 1839, dividing the time, as far as practicable, into periods of four complete weeks each, and distin guishing, as regards each period, the unpaid, paid, and stamped, and total number of letters ; also, of the esti mated average number for four weeks of the year im mediately preceding the reduction, distinguished in like manner. Return of the number of letters which have passed through the London District Post (exclusive of all General Post letters) for the same periods ; and distinguishing in the same manner as the last return. A comparative statement of the number of letters (in cluding franks during the existence of the franking privilege) delivered in the United Kingdom in one week of each calendar month, beginning with November, 1839, and ending with the prese nt time. An account showing the gross and net Post-office reve nue, and the cost of management, for the United King dom, for each of the years ending the 5y o January 1839, 1840, 1841, 1842, 1843, and 184 th da 4, ex f cluding from the account, whether of gross revenue or cost of management, any a dvances that may h ave _ been made by the English to the. lrish Post-office, and advances to the Money Order-office. Account, show ing, as nearly as it can be given, the gross amount of postage revenue for England •and Wales (exclusive of returns for refused letters, &c.), for the month ending the sth day of January 1840 (during which the four penny rate was established) ; and also for the months ejttendingacaccnhouuoanfr account r t ho h lef e s: ,te3hs:terhaspneaddnyacimyi thene of ending tts s h j t eb h a ys n t d u thh a a dye r a y pyo of fsBjt January2 .aaon , nffiuu t eaa h rr e yy sth lB 44 da . y A o n f made n3 9 d , u l r B i 4 n o g , 1841,1842,1843, and 1844, for the conveyance of the mails by railway in Great Britain ; distinguishing in each instance the payments for work done within the year from payments for work done in previous years. Return of the number and amount of money orders issued and paid in England and Wales during each quarter, from the quarter ending the sth day of April, 1839, to that ending the sth day of January, 1844, inclusive. Similar return as regards money orders issued and paid in Lon don. Return by the Admiralty, showing in detail the different items which compose the suns of 612,850/, charged for packets, in return No. 201, of session 1843. Return of all provincial post- offices in which, owing to the death or resignation of the deputy-post master, compensations have lapsed to the revenue since September,. 1839, showing in each case the amount of such compensation, and the total cost of the office to the revenue, both before and after its re-arrange ment ; the cost after re-arrangement being stated, first, us originally proposed by the Post-office, second, as authorised by the Treasury. Copy of all railway mails as directed by the Treasury to be made in Augest,lB42; together with an audition, showing the length of each line as per official notice to the Company, as per Post office time-bill, and as per actual pßyinents by the Post office to the Company, past and present ; also, an ex planation of any discrepancy which may appear in such perquisites, &e., for the return. Annual return of fees, IRISH MUNICIPAL BILL. The NOB L E. LORD also brought up the Irish Mu nicipal Bill, for which leave was given last evening,. and it was read a first time. _ THE STATE TRIALS. Mr. WYSE postponed, till the 25th inst., his motion for a Select Committee to inquire into the State trials in Ireland. AGRICULTURE (IRELAND). Mr. M. GIBSON postponed, till the 18th inst., his motion for an address to her Majesty, praying her Ma jesty to direct an inquiry into the present state of agri culture in that kingdom. THE CHURCH, Mr. P. BORTHWICK postponed, till Tuesday, the 23d, his motion respecting the powers of the clergy to meet in convocation. PRISON DISCIPLINE. Mr. MACKINNON gave notice of his intention, after Easter, to move for leave to bring in a Bill fur securing an uniform system of prison discipline. COUNTY CORONERS (IRELAND). Mr. GROGAN gave notice of his intention to move, after Easter, for leave to bring in a Bill for the better regulation of County Coroners' Courts in Ireland. CHURCHES AND CATHEDRALS. - Mr HUME gave notice, that on Tuesday, the 16th, he would move, as a resolution, that the House should take into its consideration the exemplary conduct of the people wherever they had been admitted to public edifices, and their general disposition to preserve order and propriety of conduct ; and moving that the House do approve of the recommendation of the Select Committee, formerly appointed, that there should be a more free admission of the people to cathedrals and churches. THE QUEEN 'v. O'CONNELL. Mr. BUNCOMBE moved for a copy of the notes taken by the short-hand writer appointed by the Crown to report the proceedings at the late trial of the Queen v. O'Connell.—Ordered. ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS BILL. Messengers from the Lords appeared at the table with Jle Ecclesiastical Courts Bill, which was read a first time. IRISH TEMPORALITIES BILL. Mr. SHAW said, he saw that his Hon. Friend, the Member for Roscommon, had placed the name of his Hon. Colleague (Mr. Hamilton) on the back of the Bill which the Hon. Gentleman had got leave to bring in last night on the subject of the Irish Temporalities. Now, as he knew that his Hon. Colleague was opposed to the Bill—(Laughter)—he begged to move that.the order be discharged till another name be substituted. Mr. F. FRENCH said, that the Bill %%as brought to him by an influential body of church tenants ; but as he knew that it would raise the suspicions of the friends of the Church if it came from his (Mr. F. French's) side of the House, he advised them to procure the name either of Mr. Hamilton or of the Right Hon. Gentleman himsAf.—(Laughter.) They promised to commu nicate with Mr. Hamilton on the subject; but he had never heard from them on the.subject.—(Laugh ter.) He had never heard till the present moment that Mr. Hamilton objected to the Bill.—(Laughter.) It was a matter of perfect indifference to him whose name was on the Bill, but he thought it would be more in accord ance with fair play and Parliamentary usage if the Right Hon. Gentleman allowed Mr. Hamilton to make his own disclaimer. Mr. SHAW wished to ask the Hon. Member for Ros common, if his Hon. Colleague (Mr. Hamilton) had given him permission to put his (Mr. Hamilton's) name on the Bill. Mr. FRENCH would, in return, ask the Right Hon. Gentleman if his Hon. Colleague had authorised him to state that he desired that his name should not be placed on the Bill. Mr. SHAW—Certainly not. My colleague told me that he understood the Hon. Gentleman opposi6 in tended to bring in a Bill on the subject, and he assured me he meant to give it every opposition in his power — (A laugh)—to prevent it, if possible, from being read a first time—(Loud laughter)—because he considered it bad in principle.—(Continued laughter.) Mr. FRENCH said that the only principle of the Bill to which the Hon. Gentleman was opposed, was one that he (Mr. French) himself was opposed to—namely, that which proposed to invest the proceeds of the sales of ecclesiastical property in the public funds. That clause had been struck out, and it was now proposed that the proceeds should be invested in the purchase of land in fee simple. The conversation here dropped, but it was understood 'that some other name was substituted on the Bill for that of Mr. Hamilton. JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES. Mr. GLADSTONE rose to move for a Committee the whole House, to consider the state of the law o partnership, with a view to providing for the following purposes, viz., " For the regis'ration of joint-stock companies, and for conferring on such companies, certain privileges of corporate bodies, subject to the payment of certain fees, and on certain conditions and regulations, and for preventing the establishment of fraudulent com panies. For the regulation of joint-stuck companies. For facilitating and improving the remedies at law and in equity, in reference to joint-stock companies, their members, directors, and other officers, whether inter se or in relation to persons not being members thereof, and for winding up the affairs of companies unable to meet their pecuniary engagements ;' and for enabling private partnerships to register the names of their partners, and to sue and be sued in the name of their firm." In bringing forward that motion he felt that he was proposing to deal with a most important subject and one well worthy the attentive consideration of that House, but he would not trouble the House at any great length on the present occa sion. It would be useless for him to do se unless the House were in possession of certain details which were not yet before it, but which would be presented to them shortly, when he would enter; more at length into the Isubject. The measure which he proposed to introduce was founded on the report of the Select Committee which had sat for the purpose of investigating the subject. The mutt sure did not deal with joint-stock companies. He proposed to consider the subject in two different man ners : first, as to the formation of fraudulent companies for the purpose of entrapping innocent and inexpe rienced parties, who are induced to enter them by seeing respectable names attached to such companies, and who consequently frequently suffer loss, and in many cases ruin. The other was the formation of companies which, although not dishonest, were ill-constructed and unwisely conceived. In order to apply a remedy in those cases, it was not intended by the present measure to give any undiscriminating encouragement to joint-stock com panies, nor to impose upon them any burdens or re straints, other than were necessary for the public ad vantage. And with regard to those burdens and restraints themselves, they • would be at tended with benefit of a very decided nature, overbalancing any attendant inconvenience. He should propose to the House, in the first place, to apply to joint-stock companies that which was a most whole some remedy—that of publicity, by bringing public opinion and public responsibility to bear upon the foun dation of those companies. And for that purpose he should ask leave of the Committee for which he meant to move; to bring in a Bill fur the registration of joint stock companies. But in registering those companies, it would be necessary that there should be a recognition of them in courts of law. That was a very important change, and though it would not alter the course of law, it would greatly accelerate its administration in these re spects, for :at the present time joint-stock companies were under the necessity of extracting piecemeal, from courts of justice, the recognition of their claims. He should propose that those companies, upon being regis tered. should subject themselves to the inspection both as to the persons who conducted, and likewise the mode in which they conducted them, and they should acquire in all cases the power of suing and being sued, and of doing certain legal, acts, for the purposes for which they were associated, with as much facility as could be done by an individual. At the present] moment joint•stock companies could not appoint any member of their body, in whose name they could sue or be sued. In giving them that boon, be gave a still greater boon to the public, for those companies frequently availed themselves of that inabi lity to their own advantage. Independent of the regis tration, he should also provide by another Bill for the constitution of joint-stock companies. Now that they were proposing to make all join t• stock companies, in some sense, recognised by the State, it seemed obviously to fol low that they should take those securities with respect to joint-stock companies at large, which, heretofore, it had been usual to take in those particular isolated cases in which they had been the subject of statutory enact ment. Then he proposed to meet also another great deficiency in the present state of those associations, viz., the insufficiency of legal remedies both as applicable to shareholders and to the public. There was no depart ment of the subject into which it would be less conve nient to enter at that early stage of the Bill. The reso lutions of the Committee on Joint-Stook Companies re cently laid on the table of the House, would explain the course which it was proposed to take, for the rurpose of improving and facilitating the remedies at aw and equity. Lastly, it was his duty to move for leave to bring in a Bill to modify t he law relating to private partnerships. It was very well known that at present private partnerships laboured, though not to the same extent, under similar difficulties to those which attached to joint-stock companies. Although there was really no ground for exercising over them the restraints which' the Legislature ought to exercise over large associations of persons acting as joint-stock companies, yet p r i va t e parties were in the condition of not being able either to appoint any person, or to use the common name under which they acted, for the legal purpose of suing those against whom they had claims. Now it was obvious, he ttiought, that if. the House were to confer on joint-stock oo mpanies the power of suing and of being sued, and were to withhold that power from private partners, there would be a very great danger of their acting in contrariety to the principle which had obtained almost universal Sanction with regard to the regulation of the commercial concerns of this 6ountry—the principle that wherever you could effect commercial objects by means of private partnerships you should attain them by such means ; that you did only resort to those larger associations in which the prin. year 1842, as ordered by the Treasury minute of the )3th day of May, 1842. Return of the details, as submitted to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, on which the esti mate No. 201 of last session was prepared. Return of letters registered in the travelling post-office in a week in July or August, 1843. After aufew observations from the CHANCELLOR , of the EXtIIEQUER, the returns were agreed to. UNIVERSITY OF PUMA-N. Mr. WYSE then moved for ,returns showing the annual amount of income received by the University of Dublin, during each of the - last ten years; distinguishing the sources from which such income has been derived, -with the amount in gross and net derived from each source respectively, Estimated and received amount of annual income during each of the last ten years from livings in the gift of the University of Dublin. List of emoluments, whether under head of salaries or fees, or for rooms in college, and commons or other allowances enjoyed by the provost, senior and junior *Mows scholars, professors, and officers of the University of Dublin, show ing the amount enjoyed by each respectively, with the names of each person receiving the same, and the reli gious persuasion to which he belongs. 'AnYe.unt of an nual receipts carried to the tutors' Fund,• during each of the last ten years. • Amount of annual receipts from fees net included in the above, for matriculation and Conferring of degrees, during the last ten years respec tively. ' Amount of annual receipts for fees for retaining on the hooks names of graduates entitled to vote at the Parliamentary, elections for the University, during each of the last ten years respectively. Sunamnries of the fore going re:urns for the whole - period above specified. Number of fellows, senior and junlor scholars and pro fessors, elected and appointed during the last ten years , with dates of their several elections or appointments , distinguishing to what religiOus persuasion they re spectively belong; total amount of undergraduates on the books on the Ist day of January, 1844; the number of undergraduates admitted and carried on the books for the last ten years; distinguishing to what re ligious persuasion they respectively belong. Number of graduates, specifying their respective degrees, for each year fur the last ten years, distinguishing to what religious persuasion they: respectively belong. COLLEGE OF MAYNOOTH Mr. WYSE also moved for a return of the an nual amount of income received by the Roman Catholic Royal College of Maynooth each year, for the last ten years, distinguishing the' sources from which such income has been derived, with the amount in gross and net derived from each source respectively. Lists of emoluments, whether under head of salaries, fees, rooms in college, or commons or other allowances enjoyed by the president, professors, students, and officers of the college, showing the amount en joyed by each respectively. Summaries of the fore going returns for the whole period above specified. Number of professors, students on the foundation, and other officers elected or appointed each year, for the last ten years. Total number of students admitted and carried on the books of the college each year, for the last ten years. Number of students who have passed their final examination, and such as have left the college each year for the last ten years, distinguishing such as were in orders from laymen. The course in use in the college on the lst day of January, 1844, and the text books read in the same. ROYAL BELFAST INSTITUTION. Mr. WYSE likewise moved for the annual amount of income received by the 'Royal Belfast Institution in each year for the last ten years; distinguishing the sources from which such income has been derived, with the amount in gross and net derived from each source re spectively. List of emoluments, whether under head of salaries, fees, or other allowances enjoyed by the prin cipal, professors, students on the foundation, if any, and officers of the Belfast Institution, showing the amount enjoyed by each respectively, and to what religious per suasion each belongs. Summaries of the f o r ego ing re turns for the whole period above specified. Number of profes sors, students on the foundation, if any, and officers elected or appointed each year, for the last ten years. Total number of students admitted and carried on the books of the institution each year, for the last ten years ; distinguishing the religious persuasion to which they respectively belong.. Number of students who have passed their final examination, and such as have left the college each year for the last ten years, distinguishing the religious persuasion to which they respectively belong, and whether in orders or laymen. The course in use in the institution on the Ist day of January. 1844, and the text books read in the same. Sir ROBERT PEEL thought it was not quite fair to call for returns from this institution. He thought it would not be proper to distinguish the religious persuasions of the members or students of the University. He op posed the motion in its present form, because he thought no good could result from it, and because he considered it might form a very inconvenient precedent, and one detrimental to public business. Mr. SHAW also opposed it, and thought nothing could be more invidious and unreasonable than to call upon professional gentlemen in the University to state the amount of their private emoluments. Nothing, in his opinion, could be more improper. With regard to that part of the motion calling fur a return of the num bers of Catholics and Protestants, he thought, as well as being only injudicious, it was very useless, as it was well known that s•.tholars and fellows in that univer sity must be Protestants, but that Roman Catholics might be, and great numbers were, undergraduates of Trinity College. After a few words from Sir R. PEEL, Mr. WYSE consented to withdraw the present mo tion, at the same time proMising to introduce one in an amended form. Sir R. PEEL moved that the Select Committee on controverted elections do consist of sixteen Members, and that Lord Ashley's name be added to the same Com mittee.—Agreed to. The Report of the Committee of Supply was then brought up and received. The Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned till Monday, the 15th of April. THE FACTORIES BILL. To the Right Honourable and Honourable the Mem b=.3rs of the House of Commons, the following statement of facts is respectfully submitted by a deputation of manufacturers and mill-owners, re presenting more than two hundred firms exten sively engaged in the cotton, woollen, and similar trades. They beg leave to say that the branches of manu facture which must be affected by any changes in the factory law supply , thirty-five out of the forty-four millions of the exports of the United Kingdom, and, both indirectly and immediately, give employment to a large proportion of the British population. It is obviously of the highest importance that the mea sures designed to establish an interference with so large an amount of national production, and with the condition of so vast a number of individual pro ducers, should be based on sound and accurate in formation ; but they regret to find much misappre hension prevailing in various quarters, and dangerous misstatements given to the world under the sanction of influential names. Sincerely anxious to promote and preserve the comforts of the operative, and to ad vance their condition in the social scale, they beg leave to state, that benevolence, when misdirected by erroneous representations, is almost certain to injure the objects of its favour, and they, therefore, earnestly request you to examine the evidence for the alleged facts, by which an interference with the hours of labour is attempted to be justified. The erroneous statements of which they complain, and a refutation of which they propose to lay before you, are chiefly contained in the Morning Post of March 16, and form what purports to be the substance of a speech delivered by Lord Ashley, on moving that the duration of fac tory-labour for females and non adults should be limited to ten hours. Before enter ing upon the separate examination of these statements the members of the deputation have to complain that the data of many of the calculations and statistical in ferences brought forward in the speech attributed to the Noble Lord are nowhere given, and they respect fully submit that it is unreasonable to dethand assent to conclusions when the premises are ri ithheld. How ever correct calculations may be, their results must be worthless if the measurements on which they are founded be erroneous ' • and however true a statistical r e turn may be, it can furnish no ground for inference if it be made up from partial survey and selected cases. Lord Ashley is represented by the Morning Post as stating that, besid ie e ns s :t o u t i h lie e i r nsp l it a nh b ne o i r nm i g o i us hllav oc wehi c t u co p h a t t rs i a o pv n ue s nl , Nt t oe e persons wthine g e l endagisastgt distances e dist a nc e possible to be travelled was seventeen miles, the greatest twenty-seven miles; No. 15, the least nineteen miles, the greatest twenty nine miles ; No. 3D, the least twenty-four miles, the greatest thirty-seven miles ; No. 38, the least fifteen miles, the greatest twenty-three miles ; and No. 40, the least distance was seventeen miles, and the greatest twenty-one miles." This calculation is given on anonymous authority, but is said to have been made "by an eminent mathematician?' We are not told whether this mathematician based his calculation on actual survey or mere guess, or on the statements of some other unnamed party ; and yet, on such feeble evidence, we find an attempt made to impeach the veracity or accuracy of Mr. R. H. Greg, whose knowledge of the processes of the cotton-manufacture is not surpassed in this or any other country, and whose character for honour and integrity is as high and unimpeachable as that of the Noble Lord to whom this speech is attributed. But, in truth, the decision of the question of distances requires no further knowledge of matheniatics than is comprised in the use of a measuring tape, and a tolerable acquaN, it i infhnces obviousthewith thatfou th rfi e ty of rs i t u r a u n le ti sofari yn t a h r metic. Nov s p un by the mules in a given time will be the exact mea sure of the distance to be traversed by the spinner, who goes backwards and forwards nearly in a straight line. Taking the No. 30 yarn as that which: is given by the author of the speech as the kind imposing the necessity of traversing the greatest distance, - we have to state, as the result of our experience that the a verage produce of such yarn, by a pair of mules, is from 20 to 24 hanks, of 840 yards each, per spir:dle per week ; we have, however, heard of one instance in which the produce amounted to 28 hanks. Taking the extreme of 28 hanks, this will give a length of 26 miles and two-thirds per week, or about. 4i miles per day ; and doubling this for the two frames, we .find that the extreme distance travelled by, the spinner is just nine miles per day. The distance to be traversed by the piecer cannot alrx.ere fart's iylor, op t it II 7 - 7