The Sun. — London, England, 1844-02-20 00:00:00

ettrb 'ambition SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock, SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM TEE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAT. GLOBE.—Whatever may be the effect of the pending debate upon the majority of the House of Commons— though "the Government may affect to triumph on the division—the facts adduced, and the arguments employed by the speakers from the Opposition benches will not be lost upon the country. At every step in their Irish policy the Ministers have been lowered in the estimation of the people of England ; while in Ireland dislike has heightened into hatred. No former Ministry ever ap peared in so humiliating a position—so positively con victed of incapacity for dealing with an acknowledged " difficulty," as does that of Sir Robert Peel. A case has been made out against them by the maladministra tion of their power in Ireland, which has drawn down upon them the apprehensions of many and the wither ing scorn of more, in this country ; while it has obtained - for the repeal of the Legislative Union, and for those against whom the Government has obtained a conviction for the proceedings they have been en gaged in to attain it—a sympathy more general and cordial than O'Connell could have secured by his best-devised projects, or his coadjutors by their most strenuous exertions. Had Sir Robert Peel not lent his powers to give impulse to the movement, it would have expired of inanition. The Right. Hon. Baronet no sooner appeared in the field, as the head of a Government, than new life was infused into the expiring scheme ; and every step he took in the path of discouragement by threats and coercion, only stimu lated the Repealers to renewed exertions, until the larger portion of the country became united in one vast confederacy—not so much for Repeal, as of oppo sition to the policy of his administration. This feeling, the emanation of long-cherished, because greatly provoked dislike, has " grown with the growth. and strengthened with the strength," of the Irish people. It would have been diminished by con ciliation but cam never be destroyed by coer cion. Sir Robert Peel refused the counsel which advised and urged the employment of a milder treat ment. He allowed his better nature, and his more prudent and far-seeing policy, to be counteracted by the Lyndhurst-and-Stanley portion of his Cabinet. Milita.:; - occupation was substituted for constitutional government. Bayonets bristled in almost every village. Every building capable of being fortified was placed in a state of military defence. The rivers which inter sected and d;vided the provinces became the stations of ships of war. The whole country, in fact, wore the aspect of a recent conquest, in which revolt would follow the slightest relaxation of restriction, or indication of confidence in the people. State prosecutions were instituted ; these were conducted in the spirit and with the violations of constitutional forms and stretches of the prerogative, more in unison with the seventeenth than the nineteenth century. The convictions thus ob tained have weakened, instead of strengthening, the hands of Government ; for public opinion has been thereby enlisted with the convicted parties. O'Connell has regained a popularity which in this country was certainly fast waning; while in Ireland it was rather dependent on the course which the Government would take, than on any approval of Repeal by the more respectable portion of the Catholic population of that country. If there be any one man in the United Kingdom to whom Mr. O'Conn'ell has more reason to be grateful than another, it is to that Cabinet Minister—be he who lie may—who goaded the reluctant Premier into a consent to adopt coercion as the policy of his Irish administration, un accompanied by any of those remedial and conciliatory measures by which alone the nation could have been reconciled to its adoption. STANDARD.—Every one in this country is weary of the lumbering debate that has now for five nights occupied the House of Commons, and that for all that appears may occupy it for five nights more, for there is plainly no conceivable necessary termination to the delivery of speeches by men who are not ashamed to produce in cold blood, and to reproduce, and to pro duce again fallacies one thousand times refuted—truth is in both senses the end of all legitimate discussion ; but when men delibelately leave truth on one side, it is obvious that in any sense discussion need not have any end—a dreary prospect for us, and for all like us, com pelled to read Parliamentary debates. We are not by any means disposed to provoke once more the question which we hear at every corner—" Is there to be no end t o these Irish debates ?' —but in order that the people may see all the mischief, we would remind them that these de bates, which are simply a nuisance in England, are a deadly pestilence to the unhappy country which is the subject of them, just ss the monotonous clatter of the copper smith, which merely annoys a healthy neighbour on one side, will kill the patient on the other if he is recovering from a fever, by depriving him of the rest upon which his only hope of life depends. It is, in fact, impossible to overrate the evil of the present transfer of" the Con ciliation Hall " to Westminster, or the guilt of those by whom it has been made. It is, indeed, to underrate the evil, to speak of it merely as a mere transfer of the " Conciliation Hall," for incendiary speeches deli vered in the Houses of Parliament are ten-fold more pernicious than the same speeches would be delivered in Dublin, because the Irish peasant receives such speeches (and they are all carried to him) as the admissions of those whom he has been taught to con sider as adversaries, or as at least the testimonies of im partial witnesses. If there is in the proceedings of the Opposition any one circumstance more disgusting than another, it is the new character with which, for their purpose, they invest the Roman Catholic population of Ireland—a character of universal treason—a character not only different from, but exactly opposite to, that in which they represented the same party twenty or thirty years ago. We entreat those who tan remember—as unfortunately we can— the speeches of the Whigs twenty or thirty years ago, to recollect with what zeal, with what furyy, the disloyalty of Roman Catholics was re pelled as an impossible hypothesis in those spe ec h es . Few, now at an age of maturity, can forget that up to 1829 the Irish Roman Catholics were described by the Whigs as not merely universally loyal, but as being the only truly loyal part of the Irish population. All will remember that an attempt to revive the falsehood was made in 1835, when the Orange Committee was ap pointed ; and again on the occasion of her Majesty's accession to th e C roan , w h en M r . O'Connell spoiled the enterprise by his fulsome professions, accompanied by his seditious practice. How happens it, then, that the Roman Catholics— so zealously loyal under privations, which, however light, were represented to them as intolerably burthen some—have become universally the separatists and trai tors that their Whig-Radical friends now describe them, within a few years of the removal of every vestige of privation ? This would be indeed, as tfr. Grattan said, " not merely unfounded, but monstrous." The answer is, that it is not true that the great body of the Roman Catholics are unquestionably now more loyal, now more averse from separation than they were thirty years ago. We can add the testimony of our own cor respondents to what is stated in the article which we have borrowed from the Morniny Herald, as to the effect of the verdict against Mr. O'Connell—that verdict, we are assured, has been received, not v ith indifference, but with satisfaction by nineteen-twentieths of the educated and intelligent Roman Catholics, and even by the most ignorant of the peasantry it has been received as a matter in which they have little or no concern. Should evil result from it, that evil will be the effect of the use which the Whigs have sordidly and corruptly made of the topic in Par liament ; not of anything that has passed or is passing in. Ireland. It is quite as true now as it was when Lord Plunkett said it, in the passage quoted, that " the separatists are neither numerous nor fonni - dable,' though ;hey may appear so to superficial ob servers, for a reason given by the same Noble and Learned Lord in the same speech :—" It is most unfair to visit on [ascribed to] the Roman Catholics the opinions and conduct of such public assemblies as pro. fess to act for them. In all such places, we know that unbounded applause attends the man who oc cupies the extreme positions of opinion ; and that the extravagance of his expression of such opinion will not be calculated to diminish it. Now, what Lord Plunkett said to defend the Roman Catholics against one set of accusers, it may be alloy eel to us to say for their protection against a much more foul and malignant charge than was ever before pre ferred against them. We say that they are not traitors, and that the calmness and even complaicency a ith which they see the fall of Mr. O'Connell, proves that that per son never possessed a tithe of the moral power ascribed to him, and that he is no faithful expositor of Roman Catholic feeling. COURSE OF EXCH Amsterdam CF. 12 6 ►NGE.—(THIS DAY.) Gibraltar — Ditto, at sight l2 4 Rotterdam 9 U l2 6i Antwerp 25 95 itimburgh M.B. 13 15 Altona l4 0 Paris, 3 days' sight 25 70 Ditto, 3 months 25 90 Marseilles Bourdeaux Frankfort on Maine 122 Petersburgh, 3Us 36i Berlin .............. 3 7 fl Vienna, effee. . M. 957 Trieste, ditto E 958 Madrid Cidiz Bilbao Barcelona Seville Leghorn Genoa 25 95 Milan — Venice ........ Naples 39 4- Palermo, per oz llBl Lisbon: s3i Oporto 531 Rio Janeiro 23 Bahia 23 Buenos Ayres — NewYork,2ldys sight Philadelphia — PRICES OF BULLION, PER OZ. Foreign Gold, bars...i3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin 3 17 5 New Doubloons..... 0 0 0 New Dollars 0 4 94 Silver in Bars 0 4 111 , 3 64 36 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT• (THIS EVENING.) H OUSE OF LORDS. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. INDEMNITY OF WITNESSES. The Bill for indemnifying witnesses examined before Committees of Parliament, was read a third time, and passed. LAW OF LIBEL. On the motion of Lor.l CAMPBELL, the Law of Libel Bill was read a second time, and referred to a Committee. On the motion of Lord - NORMANBY, returns of the correspondence between the Lord Chancellor and Mr. O'Driscoll were ordered. Their Lordships then adjourned till Thursday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Mr. HARDY brought up the Manchester and Leeds Railway Bill, which was read a first time ; also, the Huddersfield Branch Railway Bill, which was read a first time. Mr. MUNTZ brought up the Biemingbam Naviga tion Bill, which was read a first time. Mr. WALKER brought up the Manchester, Leeds, and Heywood Branch Railway Bill, which was read a first time: On the motion of Mr. M. PHILIPS, the Manchester Bury, and Rossendale Railway Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. Mr. MUNTZ presented a petition from Birmingham, praying for a reduction of the duty on tobacco. Mr. 0. GORE presented a petition from Oswestry, in Wales, complaining of the heavy tolls payable on lime conveyed for the purposes of husbandry. Mr. B. COCHRANE presented a petition from Lord Dundonald, praying for an extension of the patent for his invention of the rotatory steam-engine. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from Ha wick, in Roxburghshire, praying the House not to grant supplies until the suffrage had been extended, and the grievances of the people had been redressed. The following Members were appointed the Select Committee on Divorce Bills : Mr, Hay ter, Mr. Searlett, Mr. Sergeant Stock, Sir John Yarde Buller, Mr. Hogg, Mr. Wilson Patten, Mr. Bur roughes, Mr. Hardy, Mr. Tancred, Mr. Evans, Mr. Bruce, Mr. Gibson Craig, Mr. Patrick M. Stewart, Mr. obert Scott, and Mr. Darby. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. W. WILLIAMS gave notice that he should post pone till this day fortnight his motion, which stood for to-morrow, that no business be brought on after twelve o'clock at night. Lord PALMERSTON gave notice that he should postpone his motion respecting the right of search from to-morrow till to-morrow fortnight. On the motion of Mr. WATSON, the following re turns were ordered:—Return of all the officers in the Courts of Common Pleas and Chancery of the county palatine of Lancaster, and in the Crown-office of the county palatine of Lancaster, with names of the officers, and the dates of their respective appointments (and of the persons by whom appointed), distinguishing between those that are paid wholly or in part by fees, and those that are paid by salary, with the amount of such fees or salary received by each of such officers, and stating which (if any) of such offices are sinecure, or performed by deputy, with the name of such deputy or deputies, with the date and particulars of their appointment, and the salaries paid to such de puty:—Also,areturn of all fees received in those Courts in the years 1841, 1842, and 1843, and of the appropria tion thereof, stating the names of the several persons to whom such fees are paid, either for salary, compensation, or otherwise, and the title and nature of the o ffi ce, or abolished office, in respect of which the same is paid ; also, a return of all compensations granted for the last ten years before the 31st day of December, 1843, to any officer of the Court of Chancery or Court of Common Pleas at Lancaster, stating the amount of such compensation, and the nature of the per sons to whom, and the office in respect of which, the same was granted, and the amount of compensations paid in each of those years. Similar return from the Court of Pleas, Court of Chancery, and Crown Office of the county palatine of Durham. Return of all the fees received by the taxing masters of the Court of Chancery since their appointment, stating on what aceount re ceived, and how applied and appropriated. Return of all moneys received on account of fees in the years 1841, 1842, and 1843, in the Courts of Queen's Bench, Com mon Pleas, and Exchequer, or of any of the officers therof; and a return of the application or appropria tion of monies so received ; and a return of all salaries, compensations, and other payments made out of such moneys, stating the names of the persons to whom paid, and the office, or abolished or reduced office, in respect of which such payments are made ; and also, a return of all officers of such of those Courts who are paid in whole or in part by fees, stating the names of the per sons so paid, and the office in respect of which they are so paid, and the amount of fees paid to or received by any such officer so paid in part or in the whole by fees, in each of those years. THE CUSTOMS. Mr. HUME moved for a Select Committee, to inquire into the extent of smuggling of tobacco, spirits, silks, tea, and other articles upon which high import and ex cise duties are levied, and into the nature and ex tent of frauds by adulteration, or by the sub stitution of spurious imitations of highly-taxed arti cles; and also to inquire into the effects of such smug gling and frauds on the revenue of the country, and on the morals of the persons engaged in these frauds; and further to inquire into the expense of the coast guard, and of other establishments for the protection of the revenue, and to report the evidence, and their opinion thereon, to the House. Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET suggested that, under present circumstanees, the matter should be postponed. Mr. HUME said the Committee ought to be appointed, and to report independently of the report to be expected from the Commissioners. PRIVY COUNCIL. Mr. HUME moved for a return of the number of causes or petitions heard on appeal before the Lord Chancellor and her Majesty's Privy Council during the last two years, with the dates of such hearing, distin guishing those upon which he has given judgment from those upon which judgment has not been given. POST-OFFICE ARRANGEMENTS. Mr. HUME said that amongst the papers delivered by the officers of the House that morning, was the copy of a convention made by the Post-office of this country. He wished to ask if there was any chance of such a con vention being arranged with the United States, a country with which it was most desirable that there should be every facility of communication. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the Post-office authorities of this country were in communication with those of the United States upon the subject. IRELAND—ADJOURNED DEBATE. Mr. HAWES, alluding to a remark made by the Soli citor-General, that this was a party motion, and would be a party vote, said,—Such motives should not be attributed to them, inasmuch as the Govern ment proposed nothing for their consideration calculated to meet the emergency of the moment, or to restore tranquillity, or allay apprehension for the future with regard to Ireland. It had been stated by the Right Hon. Baronet, the Secretary of State for the Home Department, that conciliation had reached its utmost limits. That principle was confirmed by the Right Honourable Gentleman who spoke last night. They had distinctly declared that they were determined to maintain the Church in Ireland, in the face of all history and experience, it must be a considerable source of discord to that country. For this purpose all the material interests of Ireland were to be postponed to the simple and single object of maintaining the Protestant Church inviolate. It was said by a wise man of old, that Ireland was one of the richest countries in Europe—one which they m i g ht ma k e a source o f strength and revenue. But by the policy they pursued towards it, they turned it into a source of weakness and impoverishment. Instead of adding to their strength by connexion with that country, their own divisions made them actually weaker in consequence of that union, than if they were in a state of perfect separation. The Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State had stated that great meetings. were held in Ireland in 1840. It was true " coming events cast their shadows be fore"—itwas then perceived that the Tories would succeed to power, and these meetings showed the great apprehension of the Irish people of the succession to power of the Hon. Gentlemen opposite. If, as the Honourable Member for Shrewsbury said, it was necessary to have a strong central Government for that country, they had it now in the army. Without that suppression of public opinion there would be such a decla ration on the part of the people of Ireland as would be sufficient to drive them from power. When the lion. Member for Shrewsbury pointed to the times of Strafford and Charles as those of peace and good government, he was astonished to hear those opinions so favourably received. The declaration made by a Right Hon. Gentleman oppo• site, that the Church was to be maintained in its present state, was, in point of fact, nothing more than a declara tion that Ireland must henceforth be governed by force. The present state of Ireland reminded him (Mr. Hawes) of a very eventful period in our history, that of *76, when the first news arrived in this country of the American declaration of independence. At that lime the Government seemed to be determined, as their difficulties increased to make more stringent their coer cive measures with respect to the colonies. The House would remember that in 1817 the Right Hon. Baronet made a most powerful speech against Catholic Emanci pation. and yet twelve years afterwards the same Right Hon. Baronet proposed the Catholic Emancipation Bill. It was the same with respect to the Test and Corporation Act, for two yoars before that measure was proposed the Right Hon. Baronet spoke most powerfully against it. It had several times been said during this debate that the Catholics at the time of emancipation gave a pledge that the Protestant Church should not be again made the subject of agitation. He (Mr. Hawes), in the presence of the Right Hon. Baronet, begged to deny thin. Mr. O'Connell at the time of emancipation said that if that Act were carried out faithfully and with spirit, it would lead to religious equality, and therefore it would be the means of abolishing religious differences. Had this been the case, of course there would have been no fur ther agitation on the subject of the Protestant Church. He appealed to the House, whether the spirit of the Catholic Emancipation Act bad been followed out.— (Hear, hear.) The authorities had acted in a spirit op posed to that Act.—(Loud cheers.) Appointments the most offensive had been made. Two partisan judges had been raised to the bench.—(Cheers.) All their measures were opposed to the Emancipation Bill, and judging from the appointments which they had made, he felt convinced that the present Government was adopting the old course of governing Ireland by maintaining the Protestant ascendancy. Ile was con vinced that until perfect religious equality should be esta blished in Ireland there would be no hope of establishing peace in that country.—(Cheers.) With regard to the proposition of the Noble Lord on the subject of the Irish Church, all he und ers t oo d th e N o bl e L or d t o pro pose w as this, that the policy he should wish to see adopted was one which should acknowledge perfect religious equality. —(gear, hear.) If Hon. Gentle men opposite thought they could raise the "No Popery" cry in England, he would tell them that they would be disappointed. The Protestant Dissenters would not be roused by that cry to aid those who sought to perpetuate the religious bondage of the Irish.—(Cheers.) The Pro testant Dissenter s h a d been opposed to the Catho lics of the olden time, because the Catholics had been opposed to civil liberty, but when they found the Ca tholics of Ireland were supporting tho principle of civil liberty the Protestant Dissenter s of Engl an d cou ld not be roused by the "No Popery " cry.—(Cheers.) The existence of the Established Church in Ireland tended to strengthen the cause of the Roman Catholic religion, and to make it take deep root in the hearts of the people. Nothing but the establishment of religious equality THE SUN, LONDON,: TUESDAY k VENI G, FEBIjUARY 20, 1844. could produce tranquillity in Ireland. If the payment of the Catholic priesthood should be proposed as part of a great plan for tranquillising Ireland—if it were conjoined with a measure for the extension of the franchise, both municipal and Parliamentary, then he would be prepared to sacrifice his preconceived opinions, and to support such a measure. But if it were proposed as a measure by itself, and separated from any proposition for ameliorating the condition of the Irish people, he should give it all the opposition in his power. —(Hear.) He should prefer seeing the voluntary system established in Ireland. He should wish to see the whole of the Irish Church vested in the hands of Commis sioners, and devoted to the providing of moral and re ligious instruction for the whole community.—(Hear.) That principle may not find favour in this House, but it had grown up with the growth of the country. It had gradually made its way among the nation, and if they wished that the State should receive effective and pure religion, the best way of acccomplishing that was, by leaving religion alone. The history of dissent in this country fully proved that the voluntary princi ple, if properly worked, would be fully sufficient to im part religious instruction. The Hon. Gentleman went on to show how dissent was established in this country, and said that the State was a pernicious ally of any reli gion. Many eminent men bad held this'opinion, that the difference between Catholicism and Protestantism was, that the one sought the aid of the State to uphold it, while the other relied on its own independent priest hood. As he said before, he would support the payment of the Catholic clergy in Ireland as a part and parcel of a general plan for the tranquilisation of that country, but he still should maintain that it would be desirable, and he should desire a reversion to the voluntary prin ciple. It was a mistake to think that the prosecution against Mr. O'Connell would deprive him of the sym pathy of the people of Ireland. It was an unjust and un worthy course to adopt, and was inadequate to attain its end for it would only add to Mr. O'Connell's strength in Ireland, and multiply the number of his friends. He did not consider him to have had a fair trial.—(Cheers.) Under such circumstances the verdict which had been obtained would have no moral effect. It had been said that the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Department made out a good case, with regard to the striking off the jury, but he (Mr. Hawes) took a higher objection, and he did not see why men should be pronounced unfit to deliver a fair verdict, because they spoke out their political opinions on the subject of the repeal of the union. --(Hear, hear.) Would they apply such a doctrine in this country. If at the time of the Reform Bill a Reformer had committed an offence, would it be alleged that there could not be a fair and just trial of those *ho were in favour of Re form were on his jury, or that they could not give a verdict according to the evidence. He had no faith that the present Cabinet would do justice to Ireland. What confidence could be placed in men who sat together in the same Cabinet, and who changed their opinions and politics. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Department said, that as an abstract principle, he had no objection to the pay ment of the Roman Catholic clergy. That was a ques tion which had been before discussed in that House, and on that occasion the Right Hon. Gentleman, the First Lord or the Treasury, said that the payment of the Catholic clergy was contrary to the principles of the Revolution, and they might as well get rid of the Thirty nine Articles. That would be an answer to the Right Hon. Gentleman by a member of the same Cabinet. But take the ease of education : there was no stronger opponent of the Board of Privy Council than the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Heme Department. He was now going to increase the grant to Maynooth, but who had used stronger language on the subject than a Noble Duke in the other House ? The Duke of Wellington declared that it was opposed to Christianity, and that it ought not to be permitted to continue. What faith could he place in the declamations of Right Hon. Gen tlemen opposite, when lie found opinions so strong ex prossed by another Member of the Cabinet? Promises had been made before under somewhat similar circum stances.—(Hear, h6r.) He would venture to call the attention of the House to the promises given by Mr. Pitt, and he was not aware that this position of Mr. Pitt's declaration had yet been brought under the attention of the House. In April 1800, on the proposal of the union, Mr. Pitt said that if they wished to accomplish the great work they had undertaken, they must look at this important subject in a large and comprehensive point of view ; they must consider it as a measure of great national policy—the object of which was to prevent a separation between to o countries whose connexion was as necessary for the safety of one as for the prosperity of the other,—they must regard it as a measure the object of which was to give the sister kingdom full participation in the com merce and constitution of this country—to unite the affections and resources of two powerful nations, and to place under one direction the whole force of the empire. Now he asked Hon. Gentlemen opposite whether, in point of fact, the union had dissipated jealousy bet Neen the two countries. He would ask the Right Honourable Baronet whether he was not prevented from carrying into effect the union ? Her Majesty's Ministers might be inclined to act, perhaps, in a spirit of impar tiality ; but there were Gentlemen on that side of the House who were wedded to their own notions, who were determined to abide by their own projudices ; who had learnt nothing and forgotten nothing in the ten years during which they had been out of office, and who were resolved to constrain the Right Honourable Gentleman (Sir R. Peel), not only to refuse all that was fair and reasonable, but all which was necessary for the interest and integrity of the two conntries. There was one man who, at the time when the union was proposed, protested against it in terms most emphatic, not to say most prophetic • and his words might instruct that party which made Ireland the nursery of sedition. It was two clear, from the examples he had given, and from the authorities he had referred to, that from the first there had been but a nominal union between the two nations. The party which bad chiefly governed this country for the last forty years had kept its position by creating divisions in the empire ; and it was determined to try for the continu ance of its power by the same means which, in the long run, must be alike ruinous to the governor and the governed. All the nobler objects of government, all the hopes and aspiratiods to render a population more happy, more moral, and more prosperous, must be post poned—and all for the fancied !good and safety of the church. All the old evils of Ireland were to find fresh nourishment, to receive permanency and strength, be cause of this church.—(Hear, hear.) The time had arrived then religious liberty was struggling with religious intolerance, justice with injustice ; and though the contest might be a severe one, he had no fear for the result. It was said, and with perfect truth, that the eyes of all Europe were fixed upon Ire land at the present moment. No man who glanced over the foreign newspapers could do so without observing how all minds seemed to be turned upon that country. It was but natural to expect that the jea slous of foreign nations, in regard to thi s country would be excited into livelier action when they saw the lwaenakd.neAssndcresad sad d te ou b g y our htto ownb e our mi o sg enwonverrenflmectitonosf, that t should the time of struggle ever come with them, were we to be doomed to fall, it would not be from the vigour and power of our foes, as from that innate weakness we brought upon ourselves in this petiy paltry struggle to maintain the Irish Church.—(Hear, hear.) Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON said, that Hon. Gen tlemen opposite must be sadly at a loss for arguments against the Government, when they were obliged to speak as the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, did, of the elevation of two Right Rev. Prelates to the Bench. The Hon. Gentleman also seemed tc say, that being a repealer was sufficient to disqualify a person from serving on a jury ; but, if the Hon. Gen tleman had read the papers, he would see that that excuse was made by persons who wished not to serve on juries, but that the Judges had set the matter right. The object of the prosecutions was not to put down the agitation for repeal, but to repress the manner in which it was agitated. There had been much misre presentation about the omission of twenty-four names from the jury list.—(Hear, hear.) It had been said that upwards of sixty names were omitted, when, in truth , only twenty-four were, by accident, and that acci dent was attributable to a Roman Catholic officer. Great stress had been laid upon this point of the txc:u: sion of Roman Catholics, but he would give them an ex planation of the principle cause why the Catholics were not more prominent. The more respectable and upper classes of that persuasion were so disgusted at the agita tors preaching vengeauce against the Saxo n , i ns t ea d of peace and good will to all men, that they were glad to re tire into private life. And no one could wonder at this, after the accusations which had been made, even in this House, against the twelve honest men, and the calum- flies which had been heaped upon them 13} , the - iiOn. and Learned Sergeant the Member for Cork, who called them a good Protestant jury, ready to convict, and ready to immolate their foe— Mr. Sergeant MURP.EIY—No, no; I never used the word "immolate." Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON--The Honourable ar.d Learned Gentleman at all events stated that there was no justice to be expected from this jury.—(Hear, hear.s During this debate he had heard much of the readiness with wnich the Irish nation would receive a foreign foe, but he would tell Honourable Gentlemen foreign foes were not so ready to take advantage of this nation. He then alluded to the vituperative abuse which Mr. O'Connell was in the habit of heaping on Louis Phi lippe, and to the talk of raising an Irish brigade, and then denied that the Government in Ireland was wholly one of force and not one of opi nion. It would be impossible with such a military force to hold 8,000,0000 of inhabitants in such subjec jection. He, therefore, shought this was a most calum nious and unwarrantable insult, to charge the whole nation with being disaffected to the Rueen, and desirous of throwing off her authority, and dismembering the empire. It had been said that order and peace had prevailed in Ireland ; there was no doubt that this was owing to the preaching of the Right Hon. and learned M em b er for Cork. But he preached peace and at the same time levied an army—he preached loyalty, and at the same time attempted to alienate her Majesty's army from her. If the Government had not interfered, the loyal inhabi tants of Ireland would have armed themselves in self- defence, and opposed force to force. One side of the House attempted to monopolise all feeling and sympathy for Ireland, as if Hon. Members on this (the Ministerial) side of the House were utterly callous to the grievances and wishes of Ireland, but he could tell Hon. Gentlemen' opposite, that there was an earnest desire among Members of the Conservative party to redress the real grievances of that country, and to improve her condition. It was said that the Honourable Gentleman the Member for Cork exercised an all powerfulinfluence over the people of Ireland ; and the same was said of the Roman Catholic priesthood; if so, they were considerable, for all those disgraceful offences were the result of agitation and excitement. But the fact was, neither the Honourable Gentleman nor the Catholic priesthood were able to control the , feelings of the people The priests had, in the first instance, raised their voices against Father Mathew, but the principles of tempe rance triumphed, despite the influence of the priesthood. Ireland should not be considered as one uniform coun try, to which the same remedies were applicable, He came from Ulster, and there was not a more peace ful, quiet province in Ireland. They had few soldiers there. Property was safe ; there were no out rages. And yet they had no peculiar advan tages. They had a third Church to support there, and the majerity of the inhabitants of the province were Roman Catholics ; but the inhabitants of that province were, generally speaking, what was denominated " bloody" Tories, and all those who had influence did everything in the power to improve the condition of the people, to educate them, and instead cf endeavour ing to set man against man, they endeavoured to unite all classes of Society in harmony.—(Cheers.) Let them compare the state of Ulster with that of Tipperary. The state of Tipperary made overy Irish man blush. (I.FFT SPEAKING') THE LONDON GAZETTE (THIS EVENING.) WHITEHALL, FEB. 19, 1844. The Queen has been pleased to present the Rev. William Stevenson to the charge and office of First Minister of the Church and parish of South Leith, in the . presbytery of Edin burgh, vacant in consequence of the resignation of the Rev. Peter M , Morland, late First Minister thereof. The Queen has also been pleased to present the Rev. Dougald Campbell to the church of Portnahaven, in the parish of Kilchoman, in the presbytery of Isla and . Jura and shire of Arg3ll, vacant by the transportation of the Rev. Colin Hunter, late Minister thereof, to the church and parish of Kilninver, in the presbytery of Lorn. Alinvioamenuar, FEB. 17.—Her Majesty has been graci ously pleased to approve of the Leicestershire Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry being designated by the title of " The Prince Albert's Own." Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of Gloucestershire. Royal North Gloucester Regiment of Militia—Capt.: it M . H. H. Beach, Bart ' to be Lieutenant-C o l one l, v i ce W. B eac h , resigned; R. A. F. Kingscote, Esq., to be Captain, vice Sir M. H. H. Beach, inometed, Feb. 10. WHITEHALL, Fee. 19. The Queen has been pleased to grant unto Edward Sanders, Esq., Lieutenant-Colonel in -the Army in the East Indies, Major in the Corps of Engineers, in the service of the East India Company on the Bengal establishment, and com panion of the Most Honourable Military Order of the Bath, her Royal license and permission, that he may accept and wear the insignia, of the second class, of the Order of the Dooranee empire, w hi c h hi s l a t e Majesty Shah Shooja ool-Moolk, King of Affghanistan, was pleased to confer upon him, in testimony of his Majesty's approbation of the services, from time to time, rendered by him during the campaign in Affghanistan ; and that he may enjoy all the rights and privileges thereunto annexed ; provided, nevertheless, that her Majesty's said li cense and permission doth not authorise the assumption of any style, appellation, rank, precedence, or privilege, appertaining unto a Knight Bachelor of these realms : And also to command, that her Majesty's said concession and especial mark of her Royal favour be registered, together with the relative documents, in her Majesty's College of Arms. WHITEHALL, FEB. 20. The Queen has been pleased to grant unto Sir Edward George Earle Lytton Bulwer, of Knebworth, in the county of Hertford, B ar t., h er royal license and authority, that he may, in compliance with a direction contained in the last will and testament of his late mother, Eliza beth Barbara Bulwer-Lytton, of Knebworth aforesaid, widow, deceased, take and use the surname of Lytton, in addi tion to and after that of Bulwer, and also bear the arms of Lytton quarterly, in the first quarter, with his own family arms; and that such surname and arms may in like man ner be taken and used by his issue ; such arms being first duly exemplified according to the laws of arms, and recorded in the Heralds' Office, otherwise her Majesty's said license and permission to be void and of none effect : And also to command, that the said Royal concession and declaration be recorded in the College of Arms. WHITEHALL, nil. 8. The Lord Chancellor has appointed William Henry Sams, of Clare, in the county of Suffolk, Gent., to be a Master Ex traordinary in the High Court of Chancery. WHITEHALL, FEB. 13. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Richard Scholefield, Gent., of the city of York, to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. BANKRUPTS. RICHARD BECKLEY, grocer, North Audley-street, Hanover-square, to surrender Feb. 27, at two, and March 29, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, official assignee ; Jones, Gray's Inn-square. RICHARD LAWRENCE STURTEVANT, soap manu facturer, Church-street, Bethnal-green, March 4, at eleven, and March 29, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Alsager, official assignee, Birchin-lane, Cornhill ; Watson and Sons, Bouverie-street, Flee' -street. WILLIAM GEORGE ROWLEY, High-street, Deptford, March 1, at eleven, and April 2, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, o r cial assignee, oleman street ; Buchanan, Basinghall-street. ISAAC LUMLEY, victualler, Cornwall-road, Lambeth, Feb. 29, at half-past twelve, and April 2, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand, official assignee, Old Jewry chambers ; Parnell and Tanqueray, New Broad-street. THOMAS BRYSON, commission agent, Addle-street, City, March 1, at two, and 29th, at half-past eleven, - at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, Abchurch-lane, official as signee ; Turner and Hensman, Basing-lane, Cheapaide. JOHN CARR PETRIE, miller, Bedlington,_ Durham, March 8, at twelv e , an d Ap r il )5, a t one , at the Newcastle upon .Tyne District Court. Baker, official assignee, New castle-upon-Tyne; Leadbitter, Staple s inn, London ; Chalton, 51orpeth. THOMAS WESTREN, Insister, Brushford,' Devonshire, March I, and 27, at eleven, at the Exeter District C our t. Hertzel, o ffi cial a ss i gnee ,' E xeter; Stogdon, Exeter; and Keddell and Co., Lime -street, London. JOSEPH GL AZ EBRO OK, carpenter, Birmingham, March 5, at eleven, and March 22, at one, at the Birmingham District Court. Valpy, official assignee, Birmingham ; Heb bert, Birmingham. RICHARD DAVENPORT, jun., plumber, Birmingham, March 2, at twelve, and March 30, at half-past eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. Bittleston, official assignee, Birmingham ; Reece, Birmingham. NOTICES OF INSOLVENCY. T. and J. Jackson, bobbin turners, Ashton-under-Lyne. T. Gregory, chemist, Macclesfield, Cheshire. E. Edmundson, shoemaker, Blackburn, Lancashire. E. Bird, attorney-at-law, Harstridge, Sotnersetshire. S. Nicholls, excavator, Kensall-green. C. Hughes, plumber, Seaforth, Lancashire. J. Roberts, farmer, Gisburn, Yorkshire. R. Pettinger, jun., machine maker, Hatfield, Yorkshire. W. Grace, carver and gilder, Wakefield, Yorkshire. H. Jenkins, carrier, Toubridge-wells. T. Robottom, coachman, Great Scotland-yard. Mile-end. F. Collins, dancing-master, Brighton. are-road. L. Smith, S C . jmo r h e i s nt s hso e , y nb , I f a a tco r k m ys e mim r, up G hor r ß e e a ur t ; B wG ri cedi r o s u t -c e me a s d et , we Es rs. f Ee e rLaceew, R. W. Mapowder, Dawlish, Devonshire. H. Steer, tallow handler, Kingabridge, Devonshire. F. Jarrald, bricklayer, Bury St. Edmund's, Suffolk. T. A. Bryne, book-keeper, West Derby, Lancashire. S. Bertram, coach smith, St. Mary-street, Wei tec h ape i . J. Clayton, cooper, White Hart-street, Kennington. T. Martindale, clerk, Bury-street, Bloomsbury. J. Edis, clerk, Crescent -place, Bridge-street, Blackfriars. J. Woods, baker, Colnbrook, Buckinghamshire. T. ipso at n trn 'ogr7ye,r Manchester.pec H. Willi a ms, shopkeeper, Newborough, Angl esey. Farrar, Newkha F. Peckham, R. Wightwick, carpenter, Maidstone, Kent. R. Humble, assistant draper, Glossop, Derbyshire. J. Burge, jun., tailor, Weston-super-Mare, Somersetsbire. F. Randle, grocer, Dudley, Worcestershire. C. Wright, victualler, Shipston on Stour, Worcestershire. E. Sawyer, trader, Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire. I. Brooks, stone mason, Boson-le-Moors, Lancashire. J. T. Carlisle, schoolmaster, Pendleton, Lancashire. G. Worrell, Post-office clerk, Birmingham. F. Farrar, attorney, New Peckham. D. Gregory, coal merchant, Cheltenham. T. Green, innkeeper, York. M. Whitaker., clothier, Dewsbury, Yorkshire. E. James , HoggW. Collender, , painter, Limehouse, Middleser. F. Sowry, sh opkeepe r, c sa o d rd d w le a r i , n er Manchester. Eheffield Wortley, Yorkshir e . J. Hill, fruiterer, Rochdale. 0. R. Windsor, so licitor, St. Ann's-terrace, St. J o h n ' s woo d J. Hillier, builder, Fulham. R. Tackle, baker, Creek-road, Deptford. H. Robinson, japanner, Carey-street, Lincoln's Inn-fields. G. Atherley, grocer, outh-street, Chelsea. F. Forman, butcher, Mountsorrell, Leicestershire M. S. Phillips, butcher, Cheltenham. G. Rickwnott, veterinary surgeon, Bedford. T. Turnbull, grocer, Skipton, Yorkshire. S. Lightfoot, rice cleaner, Liverpool. G. Parish, butcher, King's Swinford, Staffordshire. J. Walton, licensed victualler, Great Budworth, Cheshire. M. Camp, Abingdon. G. Cambden, nautical brasier, Meeting-house-alley, Calvet street, Old Gravel-lane. H. Drury, Captain R.N., Portsea. G. Titchmarsh, farmer, Foxton, Cambridgeshire. G. Doust, licensed victualler, Tonbridge, Kent. J. Turner, shoe-maker, Longdendele, Cheshire. W. J. Allen, butcher, Portsea, Southampton. SECOND NOTICE'S. W. Cock, bookbinder, Maidstone, Feb. 26, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand, official assignee. H. P. Knight, hair-dresser, Great Surrey-street, Black friars-road, Feb. 26, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand, official assignee. H. Webb, carpenter, Melina-place, Westminster-road, Feb. 26, at half-past twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official as s i gnee . J. Holm es , p ropr i etor o f a b oar di ng sc hool, Tottenham, Middlesex, March 2, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee. E. Casement, carpenter, West-street, Bermondsey, Feb. 26, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand, official assignee. MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current of Feb. 20.) SUGAR.—There has been a good business transacted in the West India Sugar Market considering the very small and indifferent assortment ; the rates previously established have been well maintained for all descriptions. To-day the quan tity of West India Sugar on show amounted to only 400 hhds, the chief part of indifferent quality; 250 hhds of which were actually disposed of, and the rates given were fully as good as on Friday last ; grocers and refiners were desirous to purchase. REFINED.—To-day brown lumps were 76s to 76s 6d, and standard lumps 77s 6d to 78s per cwt. Bonded Crushed small parcels at 25s 6d to 25s 9d per cwt. Turkey Loaves double refined 2i to 4lbs 35s to 38s; Hambro 6 lbs , 335 6 d to 34s ; 9to 101bs, 30s to 31s ; 13 to 141bs, 29s to 30s ; Tittlers 20 to 301bs, 26s 6d to 27s ; Prussian 40s to 451bs, 26s 6d per cwt. Treacle, lOs 9d to lls ; Pieces 21s to 225, Bastards yellow 17s to 19s, Brow n 15 s t o 16 s , Dutch Crushed sugar at 22s 6d to 23s 6d, and Belgian at 22s to 23s 6d per cwt. MAußrrius.—This afternoon fine yellow sold at 68s to 68s 6d, good 64sto 665, mid 61s 6d to 635 6d, low 59s to 61s, fine brown 58s to 58s 6d, middling 565, and commone to fine grey 59s to 65s per cwt. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon four parcels of Bengal, amounting to 1,910 bags were offered at public sale, and all sold at an advance of 6d per cwt ; good white fetched 69s 6d, mid 66s 6d to 67s 6d, low mid 64s to 645 6d, grey 63s to 63s 6d, good strong yellow 645 6d to 665, and middling 62s per cwt. FOREIGN.—To-day Havannah damaged sold at full prices; washed yellow fetched 17s to 20s, brown 15s 6d to 17s, white gls 6d to 24s per cwt; sound went at 18s 6d to 20s for mid dling to good yellow, being the full worth ; white sold at 26s to 26s 6d for fine, and 25s to 25s Gd for good, being is to 2s per cwt cheaper. MOLASSRS.—Demerara, 25s 6d to 275, Antigua 26s to 28s, Dominica 275, St. Vincents 275, and Tortola at 23s per cwt. For Honey better prices again given. To-day 21s was re fused for a large parcel of very low St. Kitts molasses. RUM, BRANDY AND HOLLANDS.—Jamaica Rum, ordinary quality, 27 to 29 per cent. overproof at 2s 8d to 2s 10d, fair 30 to 33 over 3s ld to 3s 4d, good 34 to 36 over 3s 10d to 4s, 2s 9d to 4s Gd per gallon for ordinary to fine 27 to 36 per per cent. overproof. Demerara at 2s 10d to 2s 11d, and 3s for 35 to 38 per cent overproof. Leeward Island, at is lid to 2s for proof to 5 per cent over. Calcultta Rum at is 8d proof, with certificate. Brandy at the following terms, viz. :—Cognac, best brands of the vintage of 1838 —hhds at 5s 11d, puns 5s 9d; ditto, 1839, hhds 5s Bd, puns 5s 6d, ditto 1840, hhds 5s 6d, puns ss. 4d; ditto, 1841, hhds 5s 4d puns, 5s 2d; ditto, 1842, hhds 5s 3d, puns 5s ld, middling marks 3s 10d to 4s 6d, and com mon 3s to 3s 8d per gallon. Geneva rfor shipping is 10d ; fine for duty 2s 4d to 3s per gallon. English corn spirits at lOs to lOs 2d cash. To-day for all descriptions of West India Rum ; the de mand was good—Jamaica 28 per cent overproof of common quality 2s lld to 3s, 30 to 34 over middling 3s 2d to 3s 4d, 36 over good 3s 6d to 3s Bd, and fine not high flavour 4s to 4s 6d, proof Leewards is lld to 2s, and fine Demerara 37 to 38 per cent overproof 3s to 3s Id. Calcutta Rum is wanted at is 8d to is 9d proof. COFFEE.—The town and country trade are much in want of all clean qualities of West India, but they have been enabled to meet with only small quantities by private con tract, for which stiffer rates have again been given ; at auction 57 brls 2 casks of Jamaica went at 72s 6d for fine ordinary, and at 63s to 65s 6d per cwt for good ordinary This afternoon 67a to 67s Gd was paid for several parcels of good ordinary Ceylon ; Triage, at 21s ; Mocha middling clean garbled, at 70s to 74s ; Triage, 25s ; Padang, at 28s to 29s per cwt ; St. Domingo, at 28s to 295. Maracaibo taken in at 56s for middling dark colory. Costa Rico fine ordinary yellowish 52s to 53s 6d, good ordinary 47s to 50s, sea damaged first and second class 41s 6d to 455. COCOA.—West India has been in good demand at the pre vious currency. To-day Bahia and Guayaquill were offered at public sale ; the former, of good red quality all withdrawn ; the latter was sea-damaged, and sold—first class Grey at 25s to 25s 6d, third class 23s 6d, fourth class 18s 6d, and fifth class 17s 6d to 18s per cwt. Spiess.—To-day some parcels of Cassia Lignea were sold privately at the rates previously quoted. Black Pepper was inquired for ; holders show firmness. TEA.—Prices have been maintained for all descriptions, but the amount of business transacted has been upon a small scale only during the past week. To-day importers of Tea were firm, and the trade more inclined to do business. A good demand prevailed for nearly every description of Tea, and of the quantity passed the hammer a large proportion was sold. Common Congou went at rather higher rates, and the better descriptions at full prices. Twankay sold a shade higher. Pouchong sustained the former currency, but fine Souchong must be quoted rather cheaper. IRlCE.—Carolina cleaned here is firm in price, and in good request at 21s to 26s per cwt. To-day Bengal Rice was very much sought after, and the market has been cleared of all the parcels offering; prices have further advanced, middling white fetching lls 3d to lls 6d, and good middling lls 9d to 12s per cwt. The yellow qualities of Madras and Java cannot be purchased under 9s per cwt. Lvpioo.—Spanish has been inquired for, and full rates given for small parcels. To-day Madras Indigo at 2s 3d to 2s 9d per lb. Kurpah at previous rates. Bengal at the prices previously established. 0112.—For Sperm Oil prices are on the decline ; British Oil of fine quality at 681, and Headmatter at 731 lOs per tun. Fer common Fish Oils prices are still going down •, Davis Straits' Whale went at 31/ 15s, to 32/, Northern Seal 32/. and by private contract 34/ lOs to 35/ accepted for Pale Seal. Cod at 331 per tun. African Ground Nut Oil 40s per cwt. Linseed Oil on the spot, at 26s 6d per cwt. Rape Oil at 36s for pale, and 35s per cwt. for brown. Palm Oil at 261 to 271 lOs for middling to fine, and inferior at 211 to 231 lOs per tun. Cocoa Nut Oil, prime quality at 31s to 32s per cwt. Olive Oil, Gallipoli 46/, and other descriptions 42/ to 431 per tun. TALLow.—For P.Y.C. on the spot prices are drooping ; 40s 6d to 41s taken for first quality. For delifery at 41s 3d to 41s 6d for the last three months of the year. Other sorts of Tallow are cheaper . North American melted fetched 35s to 3949 d ; fine Odessa beef tallow 40s 6d to 40s 9d, and South American 34s to 39s per cwt. Town tallow is 42s per cwt, nett cash. CORONER'S INQUEST. An adjourned inquiry took place before Mr. Carter, the Coroner for East Surrey, at the Castle, Tooting, on Saturday evening, touching the death of a fine young woman named Hester Hudson, who died on Thursday morning, the Bth instant, under such circumstances as to induce the Coroner to adjourn the inquiry that took place in the first instance, in order that a post mortem examination might take place. Upon the foriner inqiiiry Mary Skinner, a sister of the deceased residing at Tooting, deposed that she was very much alarmed, on the Thursday morning in ques tion, by her sister being brought to her house in a fly. She was at the time dreadfully ill and not able to walk or stand, and complained of very great pain in her stomach. She was carried to bed, and Mr. Bainbridge, a medical man, was sent for, and he prescribed for her and did all in his power to relieve her, but without effect. She remained in great agony until the next morning at four o'clock, when she expired. Before her death her sister told her that her mistress, a lady named Johnson, with whom she had been living as housemaid, suspected she was in the family, way, and had sent her home in the fly, thinking that she was about to be confined. The jury, after hearing the evidence of the medical man, expressed their opinion that they could not come to a satisfactory conclusion upon the matter unless there was a post mortem examination, and the inquiry was ac cordingly adjourned for that purpose. Mrs. Johnson, the lady with whom the deceased had lived; was examined, and she stated that she had been in her service for about four months, and on the 7th February the cook informed her that deceased was very ill, and lying on the carpet in the drawing-room. Wit ness went to her immediately, and asked her what was the matter, and she complained of great pain in the side and stomach. Witness told her she thought she had better go home, and the deceased consented, and a fly was sent for by witness's direction, and the deceased was put into it, and two men accompanied her home in the vehicle. By the CORONER.—Witness was of opinion, from the symptoms, that deceased was in the family way. Mr. Bainbridge, the surgeon, deposed that, upon the post mor tem examination of the deceased, he ascertained that the death was occasioned by ulceration of the stomach. Thomas Priddy, a fly driver, proved that, on the day in question, his fly was sent for by Mrs. Johnson, and he was ordered to take the deceased to Tooting. A servant lad rode on the box, and no female was inside with the deceased. He drove very gently, and when he arrived at Tooting, he lifted the deceased from the vehicle, and assisted to carry her into the house. She appeared very ill, and in great pain. This being the whole of the evidence that was to be adduced, the Coroner briefly addressed the jury, and said, that from the evidence of the surgeon there could be very little doubt that the deceased had died from natural causes, and there did not appear to be the least grounds for supposing that the deceased had come un fairly by her death. The jury, after observing that in their opinion the mistress of the deceased was to blame in not sending some female with her in the fly, under the circumstances, returned a verdict that the deceased died from natural causes, and not by poison, or any act of violence. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. (YESTERDAY.) WORSHIP-STREET. MESMERISM.— William Bowen, a pale-faced and emaciated young man, was charged before Mr. Bingham with having stolen a linen sheet that had been entrusted to his landlady for the purpose of being washed. The prisoner, who stood at the bar with his eyes closed, a n d supported by the gaoler, was the object of ge n e ra l curiosity-, as he was said to be in a state of mesmeric trance, which had lasted 35 hours. Police-constable Kemp, N 82, stated that about eight o'clock on Saturday evening he was called into the shop of a pawnbroker, in Pitfield-street, Hoxton, where he found the prisoner, who was given into custody by the shopman on suspicion Of having stolen a sheet which he had tendered for a pledge. On being asked his name,_ the prisoner, who was then wide awake, said that it w a s Henry Hodges, and that the article was his own property; but after he was conveyed to the station-house, he gave his real name, and stated that he lived at 13, City-terrace, Old-street-road. On call ing at that address, witness saw the prisoner's landlady, who identified the sheet as the property of one of her customers. Mary Holden, the owner of the house in question, stated that the prisoner was her lodger, and that the sheet was stolen on Saturday afternoon. The MAGISTRATE asked the prisoner whether he had heard and comprehended the evidence that had been given ? The prisoner remained mute and motionless, and seemed wholly unconscious of all that was passing around him. Sergeant Lambert said that the prisoner had been wrapt in apparent somnolency since nine o'clock on Saturday even ing, and had not taken the slightest nourishment in the in terim. He had been visited by Mr. Coward, the police -sur geon, who failed to dispel the stupor ; and the prisoner's brother, who was a lecturer on mesmerism, was afterwards sent for, and on reaching the station-house he went through his whole course of manipulations with no better success. He understood that the prisoner had been the object of fre quent practical experiments, in illustration of the so-called science of mesmerism ; and it was stated that he might pro bably continue entranced for another fortnight.—(Laughter.) Mr. BINGHAM said that he should remand the prisoner, and the medical attendant at the prison would be directed to examine him, and report as to his condition. The prisoner was removed from the bar, and on the arrival of the police van he was lifted into it, and conveyed " fast asleep" to his place of destination. LAMBETH -STREET. IMPOSITION ON EMIGRANTS.-A HARD CASE.-Mr. Lane, the Government agent for the protection of emigrants, applied to Mr. Henry on b e h a lf o f two poor men who had been swindled out of 11/. 17s. 6d., under the pretence of procuring them a passage to America. From the statement of the poor men it appeared that on the 30th of December last they paid the above sum to a per son representing himself as as a shipping agent, and who had an office in the vicinity of one of the docks, as their passage money to America, on board the Brothers, a merchant ship. On their going on board, however, the captain refused to take them, and the vessel had since sailed for her destination. Since that time they had made repeated applications to the agent (who has been at this Court before for a similar of fence) for the restoration of their money, but he_had refused to do anything for them. Mr. Lane, in consequence, made application to the ma gistrate, under one of the clauses of the sth and 6th of Vic toria, commonly called the Passengers Act, which enabled him to impose a penalty of 10/. upon every owner, charterer, or master of any ship, or passage broker, agent, or other per son neglecting to give a receipt for any money received by them for a passage to America. Mr. HENRY directed the attention of Mr. Lane to other clauses in the Act, which confined its powers merely to ships carry ing at least thirty passengers, and observed he could not see the necessity of such a clause, as an injustice in a case like the present was just as much as it could be in a case where upwards of thirty passengers were engaged. In conclusion, Mr. Henry requested Mr. Lane would call the attention of Mr. Alexander Wood, one of the Colonial Commissioners, to the clause he had pointed out; and, after doing so, he would be glad to see him again. Mr. Lane said he would take the earliest opportunity , of complying with his Worship's request, and wait upon him again. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATTERSALL'S—YESTERDAY. CHESTER CUP. 15 to 1 agst Mr. Sharratt's The Prior—taken 15 to 1 agst Mr. Collett's Cattonite. 17 to 1 agst Mr. W. Dawson's Merry Andrew 17 to 1 agst Mr. T. A. Milbank's Sir Robert—taken 20 to 1 agst Mr. Stephenson's Freedom—taken 20 to 1 agst Colonel Cradock's Pagan 25 to 1 agst Mr. D. Cook's What 27 to 1 agst Mr. Gough's Greenfinch 30 to 1 agst Mr. Tuting's Tacita—taken freely 33 to 1 agst Sir W. W. Wynn's Rowland—taken 14 to 1 agst all the three years old—taken 500 even between The Prior and Cattonite 500 even between The Prior and all the three years old. Of the two principal favourites, The Prior, although not backed so vigorously as Cattonite, had a very slight call ; the fifteens and sixteens to one about the latter were taken with uncommon spirit. Of the others we need not add anything to the prices given above. DERBY. 10 to 1 agst Forth's lot • 13 to 2 agst Mr. John Day's The Ugly Buck 7 to 1 agst Mr. Crockford's Rattan—taken 15 to 1 agst Col. Peel's Orlando—taken freely 18 to l agst Lord Maidstone's Cockamaroo 18 to 1 agst Mr. Lichtwald's Leander 25 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's T'Auld Squire 33 to 1 agst Peel's lonian—taken 33 to 1 agst Mr. Watts's Voltri 33 to 1 agst Mr. A. Wood's Running Rein 33 to 1 agst Sir G. Heathcote's Campunero 40 to 1 agst Mr. Quin's Loadstone—taken freely 40 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Vat colt 40 to 1 agst Mr. Quin's nd. Foig-a-Ballagh—taken freely 50 to 1 agst Mr. J. Osborne's 11Iount Charles—ditto 50 to 1 agst Sir R. Bulkeley's Bebington 1000 to 10 agst Lord Westminster's Lancet—taken 400 to 100 agst The Ugly Buck and Orlando—taken 1000 even between Johnny Broome and Sister to Grey Momus colt 1000 even between Beaumont and Sister to Grey Momus c. 1000 even between Boots and Sister to Grey Momus c. We have reported the highest offer against the Ugly Buck, but as no one showed any disposition to support him, and as an offer to back Rattan against him for 500 even was not accepted, we do not hesitate to divest him of the pre miership ; the quoted odds were taken about the new leader, but, judging from what came under our notice, not to any serious amount. Leander was named at 18 to 1, but not backed, owing no doubt to the numerous inquiries about his companion, Foig-a-ballagh, on whom we saw at least 2001. laid out at 40 to 1 ; his opponent, however, maintained his ground to the last. Loadstone came again, and Campunero, with plenty of friends, advanced from 40 to 33 to 1. In other respects the betting, although extremely animated for an hour or two, elicited nothing worthy of observation. OAKS. 8 to 1 agst Mr. 'orth's lot. 10 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's The Bee 17 to 1 agst Lord Stradbroke's The Boarding School Miss (Marpessa filly)—taken 30 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's All-round-my-Hat—t. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 19. IRELAND—ADJOURNED DEBATE. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL said that the Catholics of Ireland were satisfied with their priesthood, whom they loved and revered, and who were worthy of their love and reverence.—(Hear, hear.) He challenged them to show any priesthood so pure in every act, so devoted to their religious duties, such admirable ministers of religion. The Hon. Gentleman said that the Catholic religion was a monarchical religion. In his opinion, it would be more correct to designate the reli gion to which the Hon. Gentleman belonged as a mo narchical religion, because the Sovereign was at the head of it. They accounted it one of the proofs of the divine origin of their religion, that it perfectly adapted itself to every phase and state of society which existed. It was under the fostering care of that religion that Belgium was working out a spirit of rational liberty, and they looked to it as the religion which would supply the elements of order against the wild outpouring of irregular liberty in North America. It was that religion which resti ain ed the people of Ireland under excitement, and enabled them patiently to bear distress and poverty. It was that religion which instilled into the people those sentiments of liberty „which he trusted would ere long have fruit in the prosperity and legislative independence of the country. He had not risen with the intention of answering the Hon. Gentleman on the other side. He had risen as one of those who in an early part of the debate had been styled convicted conspirators.---(Cheers.) He did not acknowledge the justice of that designation unless it could be considered as a conspiracy for men to labour to their utmost to discharge the duty which they owed to their country—(Cheers)— which was the next in importance to that which they owed to their God.—(Loud cheers.) As one of those convicted conspirators, he rose to speak, perhaps, his last words in that House—to make his parting declara tion before he returned to Ireland, to meet and to incur the vengeance of the Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite.—(Cheers.) He said to incur their vengeance, for he should continue to exert him self with as little ability perhaps, but with more ar dour and zeal than ever, to incur their vengeance, by exerting himself in the cause of his country.—(Cheers.) He did not rise for the-purpose of offering any apology, or urging anything in palliation of that for which he, amungst others, had had the honour of having been con victed. If he urged anything on that point, it would only ke to call upon every man in Ireland, who had not yet joined the repeal movement, to act as he (Mr. J. O'Connell) and his companions had done—(Cheers) — to devote their liberty, their property, and if necessary their lives, as he and his companions had done and were ready to do—to restore legislative independence to their country, which was her inalienable right. He would ask the people of England what after all had been secured by the course which Ministers were pursuing? What had they gained by their victory?—(Cheers.) Had the cause of the repeal of the union received a check ?—(Cheers .) On the contrary' e firmly believed that two or three years.of the. most active agitation could not have given that -cause , : the--firm hold on the minds of the people wl4chtlis pros_eciition had given it. —(Loud cheers.) They 14in4 11 ,, , 43y !that prosecution strengthened the connexion- between the two countries. He believed that if the'connexion between the two countries were based upon firm and equitable principles, and the people were placed upon a perfect equality, it would tend to the prosperity and welfare of both.— (Cheers.) He spoke not from any personal considera tions. If he spoke from any personal considerations, he should ask that the heavier weight of punishment should fall upon him who was young and better able to bear it, than upon one who was not so well able to bear it on account of his years, and his immense labours in the cause of his country.—(Loud cheers.) But as a friend to the connexion between the two countries, he regretted the course which the Government had pursued, as tending to weaken that connexion. The people of Ireland had been taught last year, in that House, that they had nothing to hope, either from the Government or from the House. They had been in formed, not by one who spoke merely as an individual Member of Parliament, but by the Right Hon. Gentle man the Secretary of State for the Home Department, —(Loud cheers)—that concession was at an end in Ireland.—(Loud cheers.) What course did the people of Ireland pursue in answer to that insulting declara tion ? Did they have recourse to violence ? N o .— (Loud cheers.) They betook themselves to constitutional agitation.—(Cheers.) They attended what had been called multitudinous meetings, at which might be seen hundreds of thousands of poor men, sweating under a sense of their wrongs—(Hear, hear)—ground to the earth by the tyranny of their landlords—(Hear, hear) —but one degree removed from absolute want—(Hear, hear)—meeting peacefully, legally, and constitutionally —(Cheers)—to listen to the advice of those who told them to avoid every breach of the laws of God or man —(Loud cheers)—to commit no violence, but to trust to the powers of the Constitution, and to the efforts which were made, peacefully and lawfully, to obtain redress.— (Cheers.) The good order which had been maintained at those meetings had been.confessed by all. A high authority in Ireland had said, that those meetings must inevitably tend to outrage. Forty of those meetings had been held, and no outrage had been committed, ex cepting the destruction of a gingerbread stall, if that could be so denominated. Not a single accident had happened.—(Hear, hear.) Females had mixed in those meetings unhurt.—(Hear.) He had himself seen the Hon. Member for Cork dragged up the hill of Tara by the efforts of the people, rather then by Those of the horses' of his oarriage ; and there were young mothers there, who were as safe and as kindly treated as if they had been by their own firesides. It had been asked in that House why, instead of resorting to those meetings, they had not come to Parliament ? What hope could they have from Parliament, when they had been told that concession had reached its limits ?—(Cheers.) But an Hon. Member had appealed to the House for them.— (Cheers.) The Hon. Member for Limerick, one whom he was proud to call his friend, because he had showed, and was showing, himself the true friend of his oppres se d, fallen countrymen, had made an appeal to that House.— (Cheers.) And what had been their answer ?—(Hear, hear.) He had asked merely for inquiry ; that inquiry had been refused by . an overwhelming majority— (Hear)—and that majority had been taunted by their base and infamous press, because they had extended to his Hon. Friend the common courtesy which was due to every gentleman, of listening to him.—(Loud cheers.) What had been the course which they had pursued in Ireland ? They had allowed those meetings -to go on, and when the eleventh hour had nearly elapsed, then came out the proclamation against the meeting at Clontarf. With respect to that proclamation he found it difficult to speak with anything like temper, even after this space of time had elapsed. At the time of the occurrence he certainly thought that those who originated that proclamation were murderers in intention. Since that time he had laboured, and he hoped, not unsuccessfully, to abandon altogether the belief that, among Christian men, there could be found those who could entertain so fiendish an intention. But ifthey had intended to cause a massacre at Clontarf, they could not have gone a better way about it. 'I he Right Hon. Secretary of State had said that that proclamation was posted up at three o'clock in the afternoon. He had no doubt that the Right Hon. Baronet believed such to be the fact, but he had been grossly misinformed. That proclamation was not in the hands of the Lord Mayor of Dublin till four o'clock, and it was not posted in the village of' Blackrock, near which he resided, till it was too dark for it to be read.- -(Loud cries of "Hear, hear.") The late Mr. Tyrrell lost his life in consequence of the late hour at which the proclamation reached his parish, which was in the vicinity of the place of meeting. He was obliged to leave his bed—to expose himself to the weather, and contracted the mortal dis ease, of which he died, in endeavouring to save his parishioners from th e h azar d w hich they would other. wise have incurred. In spite of all their efforts an enormous crowd did assemble at Clontarf, though, of course, it was much less than it would have been. It had been said by the Noble Lord opposite that Mr. O'Connell ought to have gone out to the ground and . tried the legal questi on as t o w h e th e r the Government had a right to stop him or not. He did not think the Noble Lord had reflected well when he stated that. He believed it was the advice of a paper which supported the Government in Dublin. Had Mr. O'Connell gone out with that excited multitude, what chance was there, when the crowd was brought in contact with the sol diers, of escaping a tumult. It only required one evil disposed person to show a stone, and the most serious consequences would have ensued. With regard to the prosecutions he should not speak of them—he left them to others, if from no other reason, yet from this, that he despised them too much.—(Hear.) He s hould not dwell on the fraud and chicanery which marked them, or the names omitted from the jury-lists for which, though the Attorney-General W 8 not to blame, he had not scrupled to avail himself of the omission. With respect to the men who composed Or jury, he did not mean to say that they were men capable of violating their oaths. He believed their verdict was given with all the sincerity and honesty of inveterate prejudice and bigotry.—(Lo u d cr i es o f " H e ar, hear.") It was for those who chose this jury to account for the manner in which they had chosen it. They had struck off the extreme men of one side, who were supposed tO be favourable to the accused, and selected men who were known to be most unfavourable to th e accu sed- Mos t of those persons had been born and nur t ure d in the mos t inveterate prejudices against the principles and persons of those whom they were called u p on to t r y. Let any one go into the Dublin booksellers' shops, and there they would find books for the education of young children filled with ten thousand exploded caluteni es against the Catholics of Ireland and their religion" - , (Hear, hear)—and when the youthful mind was so poi" soned, it was no wonder they should be bigoted, nar row-minded men.—(Hear, hear.) H e came back to the question he had originally intended to put. What re° had these State prosecutions done ?—(Hear, hear.) Would the people of Ireland be more attached to the union, because the lives of the people were jeopardise d by the manner in which the Clontarf proclamation was issued ?—(Hear, hear.) It had been said by the Noble Lord, the Secretary for Ireland, that the issue of th e e proclamation had been agr e ed u p on on F r id a y night, bu t it was deferred until Saturday afternoon, in order O word it properly. Now, when th e li ves o f s o mans o f her Majesty's subjects were pe r ill e d, h e did think t h e Privy Council might have delayed their sitting on Yrji day night until they had written it. Anything lo w have been better than the mere possibility of such all ° c " . currence. A rumour was prevalent in Dublin which be would not mention—but yet he thought it better to do S' to show in what condition the minds of the peoide Ireland were. He hoped th e rumour was no t true- - h e ' was ready to disbelieve it. It was said that two Met e " bers were to be found on that Council—and he would saY that neither of them was the excellent and gallant gen tleman who comma n d e d th e f orces i n Ireland —th at two members of the Council suggested that the ; hun dreds of thousands m i g ht b e a ll owe d to assem ble a; Clontarf, and when the ex c it emen t was at t h e highe st pitch that troops should b e p oure d i n, t h e Riot , read, and, if they did not disperse in fifteen minutes, 1 , disperse them at the point of th e b ayonet. —(H ea r, It might not be true, hut such was the impression that was prevalent in Dublin. He w ou ld he hap to bel i this rumour denied upon auth or it y . Wou d all the make the people more attached to the union--Ge ar ' hear)—because their right s an d lib ert i es were hourly placed in jeopardy?—(H ear , h ear .) W ou ld they more attached to the union, because they saw the Iner e a (and this was a questio n w hi c h m i g h t b e b et t e r ass.„ by any other than himself)—b ecause t h ey saw the te"; whom they loved and revered, and who had Vie, for forty years th e i r c h amp i on an d t h e i r P condemned and waiting f or hi s sentence ?— (Chi tt The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite had told them o ' l ' it was his intention to bring in some very good mom, sures. Perhaps it wa s . B u t th e Ri g h t li on . Gen d of man did not need him to tell him that the people Ireland distrusted him—(Cheers)— an d it w o uld to ,_ % great deal to convincethem that he w a s in earnest wt s he said it was his intention to amend the franchise. .J. 70 franchise was a very good thin g; b u t o f w h a t use the amendment or the ex t ens i on o f t h e f ranc hise w7 t e p , they who were one-third o f th e emp i re possess ed o,, aa one-fifth of the representati on ?—(H ear , h ear .) He s . c h heard a good deal said a b ou t th e sma ll propor tion wol o the Irish paid to the taxation of the empire. Thet„ * L. not the time to go into the di scuss i on o f a m ere tni ees rical question, but he did no t h es i tate to say , and g ibe tlemen opposite knew it well, that Ireland paid in proportion of three to four i n th e t axat i on o f the einPti, and yet her re p resen t at i on was i n t h e pro portio ) of only one t o f our o f G reat Britain.—(Cheer y Honourable Gentl emen t a lk e d o f a g i b for education, and if they were prepared to act in g faith, they would confer a great benefit upon the °u t i l e try; but why did they not do something to improv e it material condition of th e people—(Hear, hear)--wi la t, was well known in the history of human nature ! ar e as men impro ve i n t h e i r physical condition, t heY se desirous to ed uca t e th e i r c hild ren and elevate .t h e w hs their own condition. They talked, also, o f am elioratams the relations b e t ween landlord and tenant. Here the!, had touched a most delicate and dangerous subjeet' eds (Hear, hear.) Be had received many ht n c s. of letters, addressed to him by persons hopes or fears had been extravagantly excited bY . n da present Commi ss i on . S o ma dd ene d had the i r s . been by the evils and oppressions of the existing s ide tern, that it wctuld be very difficult i n d ee d to Pe rs.-- et them in the end _that the C omm i ss i on was Ito a mockery and a delusion. Many f those w • o us had been ejected from their holdings we re she ir fond hopes that they wou ld b e restore d to tiair land ; whilst those w h o h a d superse d e d t h em it► farms, were under the equally dangerous in:loll - a ir that they might be turned out to make room for „ so d predecessors. Some might say that it was verY e ' ro ns for the people to entertain such ideas ; but the PF a r ise who said so had littl e n o ti on o f w h at t h oug hts svni • r , in the minds of men writhing in the depths of der re al o lc Did they wish to see a mad and universal out shaking the whole framework of society in Ireland. 44 (Hear, hear.) He trusted th a t th ey wou ld, at any p sis endeavour to deal efficiently with that danger. „r o of: who were in the p ower o f t h e Ministry. di d jet supplicate their mercy.—(Hear, hear.) But thesa - them turn to the con di t i on o f I re l an d. Let eel adopt some measure which would bring back the of Ireland to Ireland, and open up h er re sourc ue : • try (Hear, hear.) Ther e were drains from that e° , l o re under which no coun t ry ever yet prospered. b o ut a were nearly five milli ons o f a b sentee ren ts. 1 ' 0 %- million was s h are d f rom t h e re d uced government al penses of that country. There were in all fiv,e, or millions drained from th e country — a su m wn' eb o esl ceeded her total contributions to the revenue. 'P' xi 'sh deal was said ab ou t th e i mposs ibili ty o f d raw ing h e , e' g es capital into Ireland. H e b e li eve d t h at t h a t was , e ca ses ther a fallacy. But, even suppo s ing it to be tu s e t heus let them adopt some measure w hi c h wou ld giv e 0 for • the use of their own capital.—(Hear, hear.) I t W .howa them to say whether the present state of thine„ tt itieS go on, or whether they would boldly meet the aln: i ; w af of Ireland. He did not wish to say anything in t'„e of of menace, but he would ask, what had the Pe n t:og Ireland to attach them to English connection ? , L ast was there in the tyranny which they now endureas exceeded any which they could suffer un, 4er t h e reign power ? He would not say anything in thoug of menace ; but he would ask whether, even fa h at e some of those reverses to which nations as ij e h oe were subjected, came upon them, was it well , eut one-third of the empire in permanent discon' waren (Hear, hear.) Was it well to be accumulati n g stor 9gainst themselves when they might he ire lat4 ing up l ove ? W as i t wel l to have oar a miserable sl ave , i ns t ea d o f h av i ng her 5 The ful and loving sister and friend ?—(Hear, he er ' cs sioa* people of Ireland had never yet received any COn it ten or any real kindness without labouring to pa_YGetale fold. " Try it with them again," said the 11° " i i ha ° man, " you will find the same disposition as t you always shown.—(Cheers.) I tell you that ast ir- conciliate Ireland, not at any period of your P_'`,„„ s itY for —not in your wildest imaginations of the 1 0 ° , 4 0 i f as of England, will you arise to such a pitch ° L ii . F : she is when you shall make Ireland your friend • j n istrf willing to be conciliated. I call upon the iso u ot ioste , call upon this House—l call upon the Eagl i n r alan° to make the experiment.—(Cheers.) Be just t ice _s a on: and fear not ; be unjust--continue your inin s t i o uP° L ' s ` tinue your tyrannies—continue your insults-1 beers.) your heads be the f a t a l consequences.e___(Loua serf Colonel YERNER sa id that he knew Irele',l. es the twithst° ll6l %pie well, and he regretted to say that no to the P e a , b numerous concessions that had been made of Ireland, they were still more estranged frz each cther—Protestant from Catholic—than he l4 s uch!! known before. He would ask the Noble Lor d be al state of things as he had just described should ,__ Prot; lowed to continue ? On a recent occasion 7,0 testants of the North of Ireland had, when eN K alif a their by more than ordinary difficulties, displaye- to thet a be in casting aside the blandishments held out na _ cie by the the Repealers. According to the statement (Cowanvernelei lion. Member who had just sat down, he n r w m ad e understood that the great complaint with regard to the late trials, whi Cath °l s ics a whetee been put upon the jury —but, he would ask, s dutY , e°- ld It officer of the Crown, in the dischare of his y ? have placed avowed Repealers in g that po._ ne peal had been proved beyond all doubt that th e b y the was, that no a ° , i nu 'cathoh movement was an emphatically Cathnoloicin mere fact of the great body of the agitation , an d II the clergy to a man joining in that a g i r ma de to the i r eel frequent appeals which Mr. O'Connel l made Be (co o bod gious feelings of the peasantry of Ireland- Ribbolo t t li ca se - Verner) knew a case himself where a id, been put upon his trial and twice acsku tte that in divi the " quence of one juror holding out, a belonge d t° juror eventually was found to hav e sett ee Ribbon conspiracy. had the el°t/u Captain LAYARD wished that be _el Lea rne d e Member for Dungarvon, in his late appe al which was displayed by the Right Hon. then lie - hicis Court of Queen's Bench in Ireland, an d fore t heir ue sl t a herY 4hc a t ld have been enabled to bring vividly be fo re s ou t o the result of his observations whilst oic with his regiment in Ireland ; he shoul d b tile the P° °r ° obi ° generosity, the charity displayed Y , . sh t w i t jos porer, and the cheerfulness with ine A v hearted people submitted to most P w reoe ° tions. It had been asked by Hon. Gen un tlenl eiite; lf r . nr th itc t of Iron" yous it would tend greatly to the bene fit t n that e what would benefit Ireland ? 'To that he shoidd2d'eVeseri Hon. Gentleman before he took his seat • exp c eso toa In the . ear -I u s ' . was to visit Ireland, and observe from 0 3- w _ rience the state of that country. regiment was stationed in Cork, and his de ef t itl sent to protect the proctors in the colle c t ion and A collision ensued between the people a t h e we re • sn, ' re orders were given to fire, and several me n wen a li e te, He passed the barn where those slaughtere d nances 4ing a o n f d th if e d rstan- , to the wailings of the women, they could _ hic a ten hags, a little better what were the causes w Hmoenn.lnGarenkteldembeynsuwielerne dteospsa7r,etahnedctaontiheearf