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ebtrb Xbitton SUN OFFICE, Seven 0 Clock. THE STATE TRIALS. (FOURTH DAY.) WRIT OF ERROR. HOUSE OF LORDS.--(TIIIS DAY.) THE QUEEN AGAINST O'CONNELL AND OTHERS. Mr. KELLY (in continuation from our After noon Edition) said—lt _ was found that the swear ing of witnesses in open court was productive of great inconvenience, and some remedy was at last found necessary. Provision was made by the Act of the Ist and 2d of Victoria, c. 37, for the swearing of witnesses before the grand jury. The question was, whether that article applied to the swearing of witnesses in the Court of Queen's Bench in Ireland, or whether it' was limited to those courts which were particularly men tioned—the Assizes and the Quarter Sessions. He con tended that it was necessarily limited by the language to the Asizes and the Quarter Sessions. It was provided in the Act that upon [prosecutions being instituted, the clerk of the Crown at the Essizes, and the clerk of the peace at Quarter Sessions, should endorse upon the in dictment the names of the witnesses to be sworn ; that the grand jury should administer the oaths to those wit nesses, and receive their evidence, and then that the foreman or other member of the grand jury, who should administer the oaths to the witnesses, should endorse the names of the witnesses whom be should have sworn upon the indictment, and authen ticated the fact to the court by signing the list either with his name or initials. Now that had not been done. It was assigned for error that there was no evidence on the record of those witnesses whose names ap peared on the back of the bill, having been sworn by the grand jury according to the provisions of the statute, because neither the foreman of the grand jury nor any member of the grand jury had affixed his signature or initials to that list. He submitted to their Lordships that the non-compliance with that statute entirely vitiated these proceedings. It was quite unneces sary to remind their Lordships upon what very slight grounds in criminal proceedings judgment had, been re versed in writs of error. .If in any part of the process error had been committed either by the sheriff or any other officer connected with the court, the judgment was reversed.. (The Learned Counsel then referred to Comyn's Digest in support of this proposition.) Ainong other causes of error it was alleged that if the swearing were not well performed, as for instance, if the words " to speak" were omitted, it was error. If, then, it were clearly required by law that the witnesses before the grand jury should be sworn in a particular way, and that the swearing of the witnesses should be certified to the court in the manner pointed , out by the statute, why should not the non-swearing of witnesses be considered as error ? The authenti cation of the swearing of the witnesses before the grand jury was now rendered as important a part of the proceedings as the impanelling of the petty jury ; also in the case of the "King v. Carlisle, " 2 Barnewall and Adolphus, p. v 7. He could not go through all the facts of this , case, but he would merely state that the nature of the objection was not to any part of the proceedings themselves, but to an extrinsic part unnecessary to the validity of the proceedings. It appeared that only one of the justices named in the Commission to try the prisoners was present when the verdict was returned. That was •assigned as an error of fact. But when it came before the court of error, in the first instance it was held to be a statement contradictory to the record, and could not be assigned for error on that record. But, it was not contended that, if it had agreed with the record, the objection would have been sufficient to set aside the judgment. The matter of fact itself was a good objec tion. When the matter came before the Court again, on an amended record, the Court held that it had no power to reverse its own judgment in another town. He (Mr. Kelly) maintained -that the matter alleged was error in fact, and, -no matter who ought to be present, the absence of any such person when the verdict was given vitiated the judgment ; that was not an error fatal in the premises, but was an extrinsic fact ; yet the court held that it would be good- ground of reversal if it were not contradicted by the record. IR the case of " Rogers v. Simpson," 1 Adolphus and Ellis, p. 772 ; with that case a great variety of authorities were connected, but he would not trouble their Lordships by going through them. The error assigned was that the . distringas was not returned by the sheriff of 'Yorkshire or any other sheriff, nor was there any return of the panel annexed to the writ. The jury had been summoned, convened, and sworn to try the case, but it appeared that when the record was made up there was no return by the Sheriff ; that is, he had not signed the return upon the record. He called the attention of their Lordships to this case because be could see no difference between an erroneous return of witnesses and an erroneous return of jurors on the panel, for both were equally necessary for the validity of the proceedings ; and Lord Denman, giving judgment in this case, stated that every such omission must be considered fatal, and he reversed the judgment. In the " King v. Bittals," where the defendant was found guilty of stealing a heifer, the objection was that the witnesses were sworn before the jury without coming into court. The judge held that the objection came too late, as it was after conviction, but would recommend him to a free pardon. This case was brought before a ' court of error, He quoted the opinions of Lord Den man, Mr. Justice Coleridge, and Mr. Justice Patteson on this case, all concurring that the indictment ought not to be quashed. In the present proceedings there were no means of the prisoner knowing that the witnesses had not been sworn ; but that law was imperative, and said that no man shall be put on his trial except on evi dence of witnesses to whom an oath has been duly ad ministered ; nor shall he be punished without a due finding on oath. He conceived that the proper mode of taking advantage of this non-compliance with the Act of Parliament as to the non-swear ing of the witnesses, was by the assignment of error in fact, this was the only way in which the pri soner could have an oppo rtunity of making the objec tion: He read the sect ion of the Act of 1 and 2of Victoria, and stated the course of proceeding under it to be, that assuming the swearing to take place before the . grand jury, and they only, they are to endorse the. names of the witnesses on the back of the indictment, to sign the endorsement and send it thus authenticated before the court. Could it be contended that this was a mere form, or that it was an unnecessary one? He bad heard with great satisfaction something that hadfallen from one of their Lordships, which relieved him in some sort from the habitual -necessity iu which they were placed of con sidering what was directory and what was imperative in a statute. He was glad to adopt the term essential, and ' he would - ask was it essential that the provisions of the Act should be complied with ? What security had the court in putting men on trial, it might be for a capital offence, that the witnesses had been sworn, except the certificate of the foreman ? It showed that this part of the Act could not be what was called directory ; they were provisions, the complying with which was absolutely necessary. The Act consisted not so much of provisions by which the general object of swearing witnesses was • ita be attained, as of a series of provisions forming the - machinery by which that swearing was to be accom plished. Ile cited the case of " Holdsworth v. Procter," in Crook, James, in which the sheriff not having signed his name to the venire facies, the judgment was reversed. It was urged that the name of the sheriff was not neces sary; but all the court held that it was bad, and set it - aside. This was not a proceeding at common law, but by statute, and the omission signed by the foreman of the grand, jury was matter of importance, because, . unless' he signed it, the court would not know whether the party had been . put properly on his trial or not. There was another case—Crook, Elizabeth, 0 Staner v. James." The Learned Gentleman having alluded to this case, observed that there were other reasons why it was essential that the court should have the means of knowing who were the witnesses sworn. In the case of an indictment for perjury, sup pose a Bill came down with the names of four or five wituesses—lsot_ without the signature of the foreman, attesting that they had been sworn, how was the court to know whether the bill had been found upon the evidence of witnesses who had been properly sworn unless their foreman had put his initials to the bill. There was another case in Crook, Elizabeth, of " Biloodward and Edwards," where error was as . -signed, that the sheriff's name was not attached to the writ of habeas corpus. Where the statute fix - the first time created a new system of !procedure in a mattersso important as giving evidence 'upon oath before a grand jury, he conceived it was neces sary that they should be well satisfied that the provi sions of the statute had been carried out before any pro ceedings could be properly taken. The question here . was, whether this Act extended to the Queen's Bench in Ireland, whether the witnesses should be sworn be lore ti e grand jury, or in open court ; and I , e sub mitted that the Act could not be considered as applying to the Queen's Bench in Ireland, that mart not being mentioned in any of its provisions. If it • . 'lat been intended that the Act should apply to the Court cf Queen's Bench, that court would have been expressly - mentioned in the Act. But, instead of that, the Court of Queen's Bench, the principal criminal court in Ire . land, was nowhere mentioned in the Act ; and accord ing to the ordinary rules for construing Acts of Parlia ment, it could not be contended that the Act was in . tended to apply to the Court of Queen's Bench. Courts of assize and quarter sessions were expressly mentioned, and doubtless the Court of Queen's Bench would also have been mentioned, had it been intended that the Act should apply to that court. The LORD CHANCELLOR—Mr. Kelly, who do you re present with respect to this part of the argument ? Mr. KELLY—Mr. John O'Connell, and the three whom .1 Lave named. The LORD CHANCELLOR—The point I believe was not raised for Mr. Steele. Mr. Eeeee—Ye a m y L or d . They all ra i sed the ob jection that the witnesses were not sworn in open court, but Mr. Steele raises the additional point that the notice • was not signed by the foreman. • The LORD CHANCELLOR—IS it so stated ? Mr. KELLY—Mr. Steele raised that point on the plea • - of abatement. The LORD CHANCELLOR—It does not matter, because ' if the point is good for one, it is good for all. I only wished to inquire who you represented. Mr. KELLY then proceeded with his argument, and contended that if the provisions of the Act had been intended to apply to the Court of Queen's Bench 4t . , Alma quit would have been expressly named, and quoted Viseldial istellit " King v. Richards," Bth Barnawcll and -ssl'es'avyntifiss-420, in support of this branch of his argu /.2- - merit.- Now what were the words of the Act, " That in r . .„, ,„ all cases of isitlO,Enent the clerk of the Crown at the a5;,4(,,s ; , 4(, , s -4,:, siz" eta the tkirk of the peace at the quarter sessions,• k t .,.., : '; , shall endabe eh!the back tithe indictment the names of 1...0. the witnesses, and send them to the gra d jury." To what grand jury ? Why, of course to the grand jury at the assizes, or to the grand jury at the sessions ; and the foreman or other member of the grand jury so empanelled shall swear such witnesses. Now it was conten ied that the words " grand jury so empanelled " meant any grand jury in Ireland. How could that be so ? What grand jury could be meant but the grand jury at sessions or assizes ? It was true there were general words in the introductory portion, but those words were limited by the words of the 56th seition, in which there was no mention made of the Court of Queen's Bench. Where was a proviso that no foreman of any grand jury should examine a witness whose name was not indorsed on the back of the indictment by the clerk of the Crown, or the clerk of the peace, respectively. And, however general the words might be in the introductory portion of the Act, here was a new and entire provision, pointingout the mode and the object to be attained in a clear and specific manner. He would advert to an answer which had been given by "the court below. In order to extend the provisions of the words " clerk of the Crown at the assizes," and "clerk of the peace at the quarter sessions," to all officers of that character, it seemed to have been thought by some of the judges that because such a construction was given to ancient statutes, such a construction should also be given to modern statutes, and they referred to the statute circumspicite agatis, but that statute was set aside in the case of Wilson v. Nadley, 7th East, p. 127. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he did not think the judges below had relied on the ancient meaning of the statutes. Mr. Justice Perrin distinctly, and in words, threw such a doctrine overboard. Mr. KELLY said he was glad to be relieved from ar guing that, but it was in his recollection that Chief Justice Pennefather referred to it. If it were the in tention of the Legislature that in all cases of indictment throughout Ireland the grand jury shou!d administer the oath instead of the Court of Queen's Bench, it would have been very easy for the Act of Parlia ment to say so. Upon these grounds he submitted that this statute did not apply to the Court of Queen's Bench, in Dublin, at all ; but he submitted, at all Events, with confidence, that it was of the very essence of those criminal proceedingi under, and according to this new Act of Parliament, that whether the witnesses were sworn in by the grand jury or in open court, it should be certified that they were sworn, and it should appear on the back of the bill that the Act of Parliament was complied with in this respect. It was necessary that the Act of Parliament should be strictly complied with. It was not complied with in this respect, and on this ground also he submitted that the judgment should be reversed. With regard to the remaining points in this case, which had been: so fully gone through by his Learned Friend, Mr. Peacock, and first, with regard to the point of repugnance in the finding of the jury, it would appear from this finding that eight persons, leaving out the deceased, were indicted for a conspiracy with each other to do certain unlawful acts ; seven per -sons were found guilty of that conspiracy, and of the whole of that conspiracy, in the largest and most em phatic language which could be used in finding persons guilty of the entire offences charged against them ; seven were found guilty of conspiring with each other and the eighth : then came the finding that the eighth person was not guilty of the whole premises ; that was, not guilty of conspiring with them ; so that upon the record there w.is this repugnance, that seven persons were fcnnd gu lty of conspiring with each other and with the eighth, and the eighth was not found guilty of con spiring the others. (The Learned Gentleman then went on to argue the point respecting the continuances, but their Lordships seemed to take a different view from him upon the point.) He would next contend that the Court below should have pronounced judg ment on the points upon which the defendants were found not guilt)'. This was necessary in order to secure the defendants from another indictment. There could be no doubt that this was not a complete and per fect judgment, and he contended that their Lordships could not amend it. Then, with regard to the recogni sances, which were fully entered into by his Learned Friend, Mr. Peacock, he would contend that the judgment was bad, because the time at which the recognisances were to be entered was uncertain. It was uncertain whether they were to be entered into at the beginning or the termination of the sentence. He sub mitted that, on this ground likewise, the judgment was hed: There was but•bne more point which he would advert to, and, having - already occupied so much of their Lordships' time, he should not feel justified in doing so, did he not feel a confident opinion that the point was of the highest importance to all the defendants. He - meant the objection with regard to the challenge of the array. It was required by Act of Parliament that the juries in Ireland should be selected in the particular form prescribed by Act of Parliament, and it was of the highest importance that juries should be fairly and impartially selected, in order to give security to the subject. But their Lordships were aware, and from the facts brought forward, it was perfectly manifest, that the Act of Parliamen t had not been complied with here, and that those parties had been tried by a jury in whom there could be no manner of confidence, they not being chosen or selected as the law required. It was evident that a jury-list from which the special jury and the jury panels were made out had been fabricated by some persons unknown for an unlawful and injurious purpose, and that from this list so fabricated the jury had been chosen which tried the defendants. It might he that any stranger who was badly disposed towards the defendants had forged and fabricated the list from beginning to end, and it was complained that this was to the injury and damage at least of one of the defendants. Their Lordships would not permit the provisions of an important Act of Parliament under which the jurors were chosen, who were to try a man, it might be for his life, to be violated, but they would require it to be strictly complied with. He submitted to their Lordships upon this ground, as upon all the other grounds mentioned in the course of the argument, that the defendants not having had that to which every British subject was entitled, in every trial civil or criminal—thatis, not having had a fair trial by law—were entitled to claim the benefit of the error upon the record, and to submit to their Lordships that this judgment ought to be reversed. Those were the grounds upon which they submitted, that this judgment was erroneous, and they submitted with all confidence to their Lordships, that upon all, or some of them, the judgment must be reversed.—(The Learned Counsel concluded his address at four o'clock, and this closed . the case for the traversers.) The LORD CHANCELLOR inquired whether Counsel for the Ciown were ready to proceed. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL (for Ireland) said that the Attorney-General for England had left the House, but he would be ready to proceed, if necessary, in a few minutes. After a short consultation between their Lordship, they adjourned until six o'clock. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. STANDARD.—The Morning Chronicle has reprinted from the Scotsman the "Tollowing letter of Sir Robert Peel, written many years ago, when the Premier was Secretary of State for the Home Department : " Dec. 24, 1825. " Sir,—l am directed by Mr. Secretary Peel to acknow ledge receipt of your letter of the 20th instant, containing an account of the fraudulent, proceedings of a person of the name of John Caldwell, late acting manager of the concern of John Caldwell and Company, manufacturers in Paisley, who, it appears, has embarked at Liverpool for New York, and whose letters, addressed as you describe, you wish to obtain an order from the Secretary of State for being stopped at the General Post-office. And I am in reply to acquaint you, that Mr. Peel never gives such orders, except in cases of flagrant crime, nor to such an extent as to affect innocent persons. He cannot, therefore, comply with your request, because it does not appear that John Caldwell stands charged with any criminal offence ; nor do George Caldwell, or his mother, the persons mentioned in your letter whose corre spondence you wish to be detained, appear implicated in John Caldwell's frauds. I am," &c. This letter, we think, marks very properly the limits within which the Home-:office ought to act—and ought at once to silence those who pretend to have believed that post letters were inviolable. The Scotsman proceeds to ask of what flagrant crime was M. Mazzini accused ? This question we are not in a condition to answer, but that a very flagrant crime has been committed by persons with whom Mr. Mazzini was in communication is certain, namely, an invasion ea friendly country from a British port ; the corpus &hal is established beyond all.doubt, and though Mr. Mazzini was doubtless guilt less of a participation in it—or he would not be now at large—such participation is probably the flagrant crime of which he was accused by the foreign ministers. GLOBE.—We observe that the case of the unpaid Danish claimants is once more to be brought under the consideration of the House of Commons to-morrow, by Mr. Christie. If anything could aggravate the hard ship of a thirty-seven years' denial of justice, it is the conduct of a number of members of the Tory party, who, having always supported these claims against the late Government, kept away from the division, or voted against them, when they were brought forwar d last year by Mr. Hawes. Mr. Creswell's annual motions used to be annually carried by considerable majorities, in which Tory Members always greatly predominated ; but when, the Tories having come into power, the Danish claimants, full of hope, once again brought their case before the House of Commons, they were beaten, to their great surprise, by fifteen votes, and only fifteen members of the whole Tory party voted in the minority which supported Mr. Hawes. Many may have been away by accident—we understand that the division took place on that occasion very much earlier in the even ing than had been generally expected ; but, on the other hand, ten Tory members who had previously supported the claims then voted against them, and among the ten were five members of the Government—Sir E. Knatchbull, Captain Boldero, Sir Frederick Trench, Mr. G. W. Hope, and the Hon. Charles Hope. Should not the love of their own salaries, so strikingly evinced, have led these gentlemen to think a little more seriously of the important pecuniary interests with which they have played for purposes of party ? SPEECH of the EMPEROR QfBRAZIL Most August and Worthy Representatives of the Nation, _ _ _ It is with the greatest satisfaction that I have Come to open the third session of the present legislation, and to announce to you the marriage of my greatly beloved sister, the Imperial Princess, with his Royal High ness the Prince of the Two Sicilies, the Count d'Aquila ; a most happy alliance, which proves an addi tional pledge for the continuance of my imperial dynasty, and fulfils the most ardent desires of my heart. The empire is at peace with all foreign countries, and I shall not cease to employ all the means in my power to preserve it, without compromising the national dignity. lam sorry to communicate to you that the civil war in the province of St. Pedro do Rio Grande do Sul is not yet finally extinct, but in all the others tranquillity pre vails, and to render it more consolidated in those of St. Foul() and Minas Geraes, I have deemed it expedient to THE SUN, LONDON, MONDAY EVENING, JULY 8, 1644. grant an amnesty to all who were concerned in the late disordeis therein.' Our finances continue to require your most serious consideration ; and it is not of less importance to attend to our agricultural and commercial improvement. My Ministers, the Secretaries of State, will lay before you the estimates of their respective departments. Most Worthy and August Representatives of the Nation, _ _ _ The happiness - of Brazil and the aggrandisement of the empire are the continual objects of my care, and I rely on your cordial anti loyal co-operation. The session is opened. TATTERSALL'S.-THIS EVENING. QUARTER TO SIX O'CLOCK. GOODWOOD STAKES. 8 to I agst Franchise 10 to 1 agst Red Deer 10 to 1 agst Croton Oil 15 to 1 agst Canton 16 to 1 agst Parthian 20 to 1 agst Lucy Banks 20 to 1 agst Elegance GOODWOOD CUP. 6 to 4 agst Alice Hawthorn 8 to 1 agst The Squire ST. LEGER. 4 to 1 agst The Cure 8 to 1 agst Ithuriel 16 to 1 agst Foig-a-ballagb NEW SEGEANTS-AT-LAW.—The following Learned Gentlemen have been appointed to the dignity of the coif, viz., Edward Bellasis, Esq., of the Chancery Bar, John Alexander Kinglake, Esq., and Charles Chadwick Jones, Esq., of the Common-law Bar.—Evening Paper. HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE.—On Saturday night Lucia di Lammermoor was repeated, by her Majesty's com mand, instead of (Mello, which had been first announced. Her Majesty entered her box at the commencement of the second act, and remained till the conclusion of the opera. We are happy to state that she looked remarkably well. Her Royal Highness the Princess Augusta of Cambridge was also present. HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE.—It will be remem bered that a short time since certain parties were implicated in an attempt to create a disturbance at the Italian Opera, with the alleged view to force an engagement of Signor Salvi. The parties being arrested on the spot and taken before the magistrate, were bound over to answer the charge at the Old Bailey Sessions, and the grand jury returned a true bill. The affair, however, has terminated, as the following letter, addressed to the lessee, will show:— "June 9. " Sir,—We beg to express to you our great regret that we should have caused you any annoyance by distributing at the Opera-house the bills relative to an engagement of Signor Salvi, the tendency of which was to create serious incon vesience to the public. We are fully aware of the serious re sults with which we should be visited were you to press the present proceedings against us, and we have to express our thanks for the lenient terms on which you have consented to their abandonment, viz., the payment of 501. to ten charities selected by you.—We are, Sir, your obedient servants, " GEORGE HAIcWELL, London. " JOHN FRERE, Bush Hotel, Bristol." The following is the list of charitable institutions benefitted by the above arrangement: Hospital for Consumption, West • minter Hospital, Charing-cross Hospital, Paddington Hos pital, Samaritan Fund, Refuge for the Houseless Poor, Na tional Benevolent Institution, Royal Dispensary for Diseases of the Ear, Governesses' Institution, and the St. John's-•wood Almshouses. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. Their Lordships having sat in Error in the appeal of Daniel O'Connell and others, from ten o'clock until four, resumed, for public business, at a quarter to five. Several private Bills were advanced a stage, and in the case of others the Commons' amendments were agreed to, and the Bills passed, but we could not catch their names. DISSENTERS' CHAPELS BILL. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition from a body of Unitarian Dissenters in favour of the Bill. A RIGHT REV. PRELATE, whose name we did not hear, presented several petitions from places inYorkshire, Surrey, and other parts of the kingdom, against the Bill. The Bishop of LONDON presented numerous peti tions to the same effect. CORN-LAWS. Lord ELDON presented petitions from numerous parishes in Surrey against any.alteration of the corn laws which would diminish agricultural protection. . The Duke of RICHMOND presented similar petitions from places in the counties of Sussex, Hants • and Somer set, against the Anti-Corn-law League, and in favour of protection ; also petitions from Exeter and other places, against certain provisions of the Bank Charter Act. Lord TEYNHAM presented a great number of peti tions from places in Staffiwdshire, Lancashire, Bucking ham, Northampton, and various other parts of the coun try, against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. Lord SOMERS presented twenty .four petitions, in favour of agricultural protection. The Noble Lord pre sented also several petitions against the Bank Charter Bill. Lord ASHBURTON presented several petitions from places in Surrey, praying for agricultural protection. The Noble Lord presented also a petition in favour of the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. THE POST•dFFICE LETTER OPENING. The Duke of WELLINGTON informed the House that he had received a letter from Lord Burlington, de clining to sit upon the Secret Committee of Post-office inquiry ; and on the motion of the Noble Duke, the name of Lord" Colborne was substituted. THE BANK CHARTER BILL. On the motion of the Earl of RIPON, it was agreed that the Bank Charter Bill should be read a second time to-morrow, and that the discussion should take place on Friday. BISHOPRICS - OF BANGOR AND ST. ASAPH. On the motion of the Earl of POWIS, the third reading of the dioceses of Bangor and Asaph Bill was postponed till Thursday. THE IRISH MAGISTRACY. Earl FORTESCUE postponed till. Thursday the mo tion of which he had given notice for this day, relating to Mr. O'Driscoll. He hoped he should be allowed to bring on the motion before the Orders of the Day, as it involved a queStion of personal character, which ought not to be kept suspended. Lord KINNAIitD presented a petition from Perth, praying that the provisions of the Brothels Suppression Bill should be extended to Scotland.—(A laugh.)- Lord MALMSBURY presented a petition from land owners of New Zealand, praying for further protection to colonial produce. CATHOLIC BEQUESTS BILL. The Bishop of EXETER said that this Bill contained clauses of greater importance than had been contained in any. Bill passed by Parliament for the last 300 years. He had come up two hundred miles to take part in the discussion which stood fixed for to-morrow, and he hoped it would not be postponed, as he should have to return on Wednesday. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said that the same cause of postponement which affected other measures to day would probably cause the postponement of this Bill to-morrow. The Bishop of EXETER would take the present op portunity of stating generally his objections to the mea sure, which were founded upon the effect the Bill would have of recognising the supremacy of the Pope in these realms. He should be most happy to support a measure for enabling Catholics to endow their religious estab lishments, if it could be done without endangering the constitution and tile religious institutions of this kingdom. INCENDIARISM' IN NORFOLK AND SUFFOLK. Lord WODEHOUSE complained with great warmth of the calumnies which had lately been disseminated against the gentry and ycomany of the county (Suffolk) over which he had the honour to preside as Lord Lieutenant. He called upon the gentlemen of the press who were present to publish his contradiction.—(Order, order, and great laughter.) Those calumnies would never have been fabricated, if it had not been to suit the purposes of those who availed themselves of . opposition to the poor-laws for party objects. If the gentlemen of the press would go down to the neighbourhood of his own estate and examine the union workhouses— (A laugh)—they would see that they were well ma naged, and if they asked the paupers themselves they would be told that they were better off than under the old system. He thanked ther Lordships and apologised for the warmth of his manner—(Hear)—but he felt that he was as much inculpated by those calumnies as any farmer in the county.—(Cheers.) The Marquis of NORMANBY considered the warmth of the Noble Lord perfectly natural, and felt cer tain that no part of the accusations to which he had alluded could apply to that Noble Lord.—(Hear, hear.) He (the. Marquis of Normanby) would take this opportunity of moving for returns of the number, age, and sex of the persons who had been committed for trial at the last assizes in Norfolk and Suffolk, on the-charge of incendiarism, with the result of the trials. Lord WODEHOUSE could have no objection to the returns, which were accordingly ordered. The Paliamentary business being concluded, the House then adjourned for a quarter of an hour—that is to six o'clock—when the arguments in the appeal in error on the Irish State Trials will be resumed. After their Lordships met from the adjournment, and before proceeding to the argument on the writ of error, the following business was gone through : PRESBYTERIAN MARRIAGES. The Irish Presbyterian Marriage Bill passed through Committee. THE POST OFFICE. On the motion of Lord BROUGHAM, a message was ordered to be sent`fe the Commons for leave for Lord J. Russell and Sir J. Graham to be examined as witnesses before the Secret Committee of the Reuse of Lords.— Agreed to. On the motion of Lord CAMPBELL, leave was given for Lord Melbourne to be examined before the Com mittee of the House of Commons. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the chair at Four o'clock. MIDDLE LEVEL DRAINAGE BILL. On the motion for the further consideration of the report on this Bill, Lord G. BENTINCK moved that the Bill be recom mitted. _ After some discussion tho House divided, when there were— For the amendment 26 Against it • Majority The report was then ordered to be brought up and engrossed. POST-OFFICE. On the motion of Lord SANDON a message was sent to the Lords, requesting that Lords Melbourne and Aber- been might be allowed) to give evidence before the Post office Committee of the House of Commons. SUGAR DUTIES. Mr. F. BARING said he wished to put a (Ines , don to the Right Honourable the President of the Board of Trade which be had mentioned on a former oc casion. It was whether the sugar , of the Danish colo nies was to come .in under the lower duty in the Sugar Bill. Mr. GLADSTONE said there were established and settled rules to govern our commercial intercourse with Denmark, and those would be abided by. He did not see any ease in which it was at all necessary to ask the opinion of the law officers of the Crown. ALGIERS. Mr. SHELL said he wished to put three questions to the Right Hon. Gentleman at the head of her. Majesty's Government. The first question was, whether Lord Aberdeen had received any answer from the French Government to his dispatch of the 28th of January, 1842, and if' so would there be any objection to lay that upon the table of the House; the second was, had the British Government applied for an exequatur for our Consul at Algiers ; and the third was, had England done anything to allow France to entertain the opinion that she was entitled to the possession of Algiers? Sir R. PEEL thought it would be much better to leave the matter entirely between the Executive Go vernments of the two countries. No answer had as yet been received to the communic:ar tion which had been forwarded by the Earl of Aberdeento - the Minister in France. With respect to the question regarding the Consul-General in Africa, he could only say that he had acted under the same in structions which had been forwarded 'to him during the tenure of office of the Government with which the Right Hon. Gentleman was himself connected. Sir CHARLES NAPIER, after alluding to the naval strength in the Mediterranean and at home, said , he wished to put three questions to the Right Honourable Baronet. He wished to know, in the first place, whether it was true, as had been stated in' some of the Spanish papers that Spain had consented to. allow France to send troops into Morocco through Ceuta. His second question was whether the Emperor of Mo rocco had refused all mediation on the part of this country ; and lastly, ho wished to ask whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to increase the naval force of the country. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that there never was a period at which this country could make a greater naval demonstration within a short space of time than at the present moment. With respect to the second question of the Hon. and Gallant Officer, as to the permissidn by the Spanish Government to France, to allow troops to pass through Ceuta to Morocco, he could only say that he had never beard of such an arrangement having been entered into. The next question oE . the Hon. and Gallant Member was whether all:mediation - on the part of this country had been refused by the Emperor of Morocco, and in answer to that question, he (Sir R. Peel) had to state that the British Consul-General at Algiers was now with the Emperor of Morocco, acting under the instructions of her Majesty's Government, and therefore it could not be said that the Emperor of Morocco had re fused all mediation. In answer to the last question of the Hon. and Gallant Officer, he had to state that her Ma jesty's Government had already . taken measures to place such an amount of naval force in the Mediterranean as would be sufficient to protect British interests in that part of the world should their interests be at all menaced. [LEFT SITTING,) DIFFICULTIES OF COMMERCIAL REFORM. (From the Sentinel.) The rejection of Mr. Villiers's motion for a repeal of the import duties on foreign corn, by a majority of nearly three to one, must convince the most sanguine ad herent of the League that the present Parliament will not abolish the tax on bread. Not even will the compro mise of a flied duty be listened to ; the sliding-scale will continue m force, at least, till the next general election. We are aware that many . feel confident that the law will be changed on the occasion of the first bad harvest,—these speculators on probabilities having much more reliance on the vicissitudes of the seasons than the justice of legislation. Others, who possess that mixture of enthusiasm and perseverance which hopes against hope, and expect that ends may be obtained without adequate means, imagine, that commercial emancipation will spring up out of the disruption of political parties, overlooking the fact of the personal interests of land 4 lords remaining unchanged, however they may vary their Parliamentary leadership. We regret. Our inabi lity to share in any of these cheering prospects ; for, it being notorious, that the object of the corn-Jaw is to sustain rents and prevent the foreclosure &mortgages, and it being equally notorious, that the receivers of rents have possessed themselves of a monopoly of legisla tion, it appears to us perfectly clear, that no adverse harvest, no internal political jealousies, no war to the knife on minor points, will ever so far permit fear or passion to control reason, or neutralise the argument of the breeches-pocket, as toTinditce the actual holders of acres to transfer them to their creditors, either private or public,—to mortgagees or to fundholderk Long years of legislative injustice and legislative blun ders have brought us into a state so artificial and complex, that the slightest change in the hollow and unsubstantial fabric of society threatens to bring down the whole building. We - are in the con dition of the man who held the wolf by the ears it is dangerous to continue the hold, and equally peri lous to relax the, grasp. Were we to venture in a single sentence to assign a cause for the " difficulties of Com mercial Reform,' we should ascribe it to the fact of our huge indebtedness, which prevents the application of the sound principles of political economy to the production and distribution of wealth. Let us, then, endeavour tos point out specifically the nature and bearings of thos* difficulties, and we shall be better able to judge how w ought to assail monopoly with a fair prospect of succeii. We shall take it for granted, that corn is the standard of all value. Now, it has been demonstrated that the natural, that is to say, the untaxed price of a quarter of the finest wheat, both in this country and in most of the Continental States, is equal to about 6i ounces of silver, er 335. 6d. It has been further shown by Mr. John Taylor, by evidence we have recently printed, and to which we refer our readers , that for every million of o wheat permanent debt, the eat ought to rise o taxesnpricee pi of m e thesnpno3 d to on quarter u a theprtl place of e e shape t h e landowner in the same position as he would have occupied had: no tax existed. Now, if we take our National Debt at 800 millions, then we must add 800 pence pet quarter to the natural price of 335. 6d. ; 800 pence are if we add 3/. 6s. Bd., ote the e u u a an l rtt t ai t xfl i Ip6rosir.cBet, taxation ;ha then n o o I s p e e rq sellingiuc ;consequently, to tly , pc ed ce of a quarter of ' 135.-6 d., the natural the-finest wheat, in our actual circumstances, would be five pounds and twopence. Our readers may be startled at such a statement as this ; we know it is not a pleasant view of the subject, but if we really desire to ascertain the nature of our difficulties, in order to conquer them, we must not shrink from looking truth boldly in the face. We have said, that corn is the standard of all value. We have pointed out the ratio in which its price ought to rise, with the rise of taxation. If we are unable to give a scale equally graduated of o th er commo dities, it must nevertheless be obvious, that the same principle must apply to all other products of human industry ; or, in other words, there must, for all articles, be two prices, the natural and the artificial—the latter being regu lated by the amount of taxation at any given time in any given country. The consumers of artificially priced corn cannot sell their gocds at their natural prices, for, if they did, they would h ave t o s us t a in all the burdens of taxation, from which, on that hypothesis, the growers of corn would be exempt. If, then, taxa tion necessitates high rents, so also does it necessitate high profits to the capitalists, and in a proportionate de gree it also necessitates high wages. Cheap labour, cheap commodities, cheap rents, under the pressure of excessive taxation, are absurd and unjust, unless we are prepared to say that the public creditor is to regard his debtors as slaves, and compel them to work as slaves for his special benefit. Here, then, we trust, the evidence is plain, that our public indebtedness prevents the applica tion of sound principles of political economy to the ex isting condition of England, provided we are honest enough to keep faith with the public creditor. Now,-:how to keep that faith, is the problem to be solved. It has been. said, _that the more we pay to classes for monopolies and differential duties, the less able are we to pay the fundholder and the Queen's taxes. This, of course, is most true. The receivers of monopolies and differential duties know the fact as well as their opponents, though they may be too cunning to acknowledge it. They were evidently imposed by the Legislature to shift the weight of the public debt from property to industry, and for that purpose they are maintained. If honour or honesty ruled the conduct of our aristocracy, they would pay the debt they contracted, either by selling th e i r es t a t es t o redeem the principal sum, or by raising as much per cent. on their incomes, by direct taxes, as would discharge the annual dividends. This, their cupidity and their necessities prevent them from doing ; and, consequently, they persist in levying revenue through indi rec t taxa tion, which is so graduated as to bear with th e mos t un equal pressure possible on commodities of general consumption ; so that the prac tical obligation to discharge the claims of the Queen's Government and of the fundholder, chiefly2falls on the working classes, being abstracted from _their wages through the machinery of customs and excise. It is in dustry that pays th e t axes , not property ; though indus try, disfranchised and unrepresented, never gave a soli tary vote for the contraction of that very debt by which industry is now ground down to the earth. The object Of the corn-laws is to raise prices, but it has defeated itself, since bread can never sustain a high legislative price in the midst of an unemployed and pennyless population. The object cf a metallic currency is to lower prices. Both these systems have been in full play for many years, of course counteracting each other While the Legislature has done all in its power—how ever impotent that power may have proved—to com pensate landlords f or th e i r s h a re of the burdens of taxa tion, by givingthem a monopoly of the food markets, they have, at the same time, lowered the prices of all other commodities, by substituting a metallic for a paper currency, and prohibiting gold to rise beyond an arbi trary Mint-price. All prices have tended to fall to the low price of gold, which has been exempted from the laws of sepply and demand by Act of Parlia ment. Whether the Bank of England possesses fifteen millions of bullion in its coffers, as at present, or whether it were so bare of the precious metals, as to be eom polled to borrow two-and.a-half millions from the Bank of France, gold still remains at the Mint-price of 31. 17s iold. per ounce—a contradiction so witless, that, if the fact were not notori ous , h e w ho proclahnedit might be suspected of denying common sense to the Legislature. Here, then, we have another difficulty in the way of Commercial Reform , —the conflict bet Ween the corn laws and a metallic currency ; the one raising, the other lqivering prices ; both in action, at the same time, in the same market, and bbth defended by ,Sir R. Peel with equal pertinacity. We have, then, five distinct classes or parties, each of whose separate interests must be consulted, before we can get rid of our commercial difficulties. First, the Government, demanding excessive taxes. Secondly, the fundholder, claiming payment of his dividends. •Who is to pay theM ? " Not we," standing forward as the third section, say the landlords ; " our private mort gages and special burdens are as much as we can bear." " Nor we," fourthly, exclaim the capitalists ; " our pro fits are so reduced, that to lower them further would drive us to some foreign land, less indebted." "Nor we," fifthly, declare the working classes ; "from ten hours' toil we have been goaded into sixteen, yet this excess of labour brings no equivalent wages ; we faint under the burden ; we can neither feed ourselves nor our chil dren, and foresee that the race of labourers must be ener vated from generation to generation, till the powers of British labour are prostrated and exhausted." Now, it seems to us, that, before we can adopt any comprehensive system of commercial reform, we must first settle the question of taxation. How are we, an indebted country, to compete, on fair terms, with an un indebted country? If taxation requires an artificial price, as we have endeavoured to show, how can we sell goods at their natural price? Somebody must pay the taxes, either out of their capital or out of their labour; there is no alternative, unless we sponge out the debt and proclaim ourselves bankrupts. If we allow , foreign commodities to come into our home market, unburdened with taxation, how can our producers of the same kind of commodities sell them ? If, on the other hand, we exclude foreign corn, how can we feed our dense and annually increasing population ? Again, if we are to protect the rich, such as landowners and West India' planters, shall we refuse to :protect the poor ? But are not these two obligations incompatible ? Can we at the same time keep up the price of bread by a corn-law, and keep up wages with a metallic currency ? There is palpable contradiction on the very face of the proposition. With a cheap Mint-price of gold, commodities must tend to cheapness, where gold is the measure of value ; and as commodities become cheap, profits and wages must fall, and thus, with diminished means, industry must pay the• fixed interest of the fixed debt. while the landlord next steps in and takes, by a bread-and-beef tax, from the consumer his own portion of indebtedness to the fundholder. In a word, then, we conclude, that the Government expenditure and the Na tional Debt are the main difficulties in the way of Com mercial Reform, to which may be added the metallic cur rency and the inflexible price of gold. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. (SATURDAY.) BOW-STREET. Mr. John Wilson, of the Two Spies, in Catherine street, Strand, was summoned before Mr. Jardine, at the instance of the police, for having, on the 27th of June, at a quater-past one in the morning, unlawfully permitted and suffered a number of prostitutes to meet together and remain in his house, contrary to the statute. Mr. Duncombe, solicitor to the Protection Society, /who appeared for the defendant, applied that the case might stand over till a future day, on the grounds that his client had entered two appeals against two former convictions. Mr. JARDINE objected to such a course, as there was no point of law raised to induce him to bind over the de fendant to the sessions. Mr. Duncombe considered the point was sufficiently strong to make such an application, as it could be proved that the persons in question were only standing before the bar. Mr. JARDINE said he could not be bound by any act of the magistrates at quarter-sessions, although he should by the Court of Queen's Bench, in case his con viction was quashed, and, therefore, he eould not attend to such an application. Mr.,Duncoinbe submitted that when such an opinion was entertained . another magistrate ought to hear the case. Mr. JARDINE said he certainly would not ask any other magistrate to hear any case brought before him for decision, and the evidence might be proceeded with. Inspector Black, F division, then proved that he found in front of the bar several men and women, some of whom were drunk and quarreling together. The con stable, who accompanied him pointed out five of the wo men as well-known prostitutes, to which circumstance he drew the attention of the landlady who was behind the bar, and having then left, the women shortly after came out, accompanied by a man. In answer to Mr. Duncombe, witness said he was in the house only about two minutes, and the constable could merely confirm his testimony. Mr. JARDINE said, as there was no further evidence, he should dismiss the . complaint, as there was a mixed company in the house, and the women in question left the moment they were desired. Mrs. Evans, landlady of the Old Drury, in Bridges street, Covent-garden, appeared to answer a similar complaint. Mr Clarkson attended for the defendant. Inspector Black said that at a quarter past one o'clock on the 27th ult. he found seven prostitutes, who were pointed out to the man who kept the door, but he in stantly turned them out, saying, "Now,ladies, you must go," which they did. • Mr. TWYTORD—WitS the door locked when you went in ? Witness—The door wai on the chain, and a man sat inside. Mr. Twyronn—How 'Ohl; were.you watching ; ; Wit ness replied he was in the street' about a quarter of an hour. In answer to Mr. Clarkson, witness said he was in the house two or three minutes, and the women were only talking among themselves. Mr. Clarkson said there was evidently no case against his client, and it was a most a most blirefaced ..proceeding to have persons taken away from their busi ness to answer such frivolous complaints. Mr. Burnaby, the chief clerk, said the inspector was not to blame, as his business was only to make a report of what he saw. Mr. TWYFORD said the remark applied very properly to the inspector's superior, who directed him to take out a summons against the defendant for allowing females to remain two minutes in her house, and he should therefore direct that the complaint should be dismissed. Mr. Brown, landlord of a public-house in Necastle court, attended upon a similar complaint ; and, after nearing a portion of the evidence, it was ordered to be dismissed, as bein Af g aiE frivolousßTß -as,ITE and v exatious. tious. L Mr. Fenson, landlord of the Fir Tree, in Church-lane, Whitechapel, waited on Mr. Norton, the sitting magis trate, and requested his advice under the . following circumstances : Mr. Jenson stated that, like many of his fellow-trades men in the metropolis and elsewhere, he had, at the request of many friends and customers, established two Derby Sweeps—one consisting of 75 members, at.l/. 10s. each, for which the holder of the first horse was to receive 501., and the second 25/. ; and the other. con sisting of the same number of members, at 15s. each, for which the holder of the first horse was to receive 251., and the second 12L 10s. An objection, as it was well known, had been made to Running Rein, the first horse in the Derby race, on acconntof his disqualification, and the consequence was that a protest had been en tered by the holder of the second horse (Orlando) against his paying the higher prize to the owners of the tickets for Running Rein, and the matter was allowed to stand over to await the issue of the late trial in the Court of Exchequer. The observations of the Learned Judge and the finding of the jury in the case would, he (Mr. Jenson) thought, have finally settled the matter, and he had, in consequence, given notice of his inten tion in a few days to pay the first prize to the holders of Orlando, and the second to lonian; and this he felt the more secure in doing, as he had no printed rules upon 'which exceptions might be taken, but since he had done so he had received the following written notice from the holders of Running Rein in both sweeps:— " I being a member of the Derby Sweepstakes held at your house, and having drawn Running Rein as the first or winning horse in the said stakes, amounting to fifty pounds, which amount remains in your hands, and the said Runipg Rein having come in first in the said Derby Stakes, I apprise you that I claim the said stakes (notwithstanding the sham issue tried between Mr. Wood and Colonel Peel, before Baron Alderson in the Court of Exchequer, concluded on the 2nd ins inst. ; e ) g a e n n, d t l w n i o ll w at g t i e v n e d yo a u t notice your htohuastel,t to -morrow f autho risedoforrenoon, at 11 o'clock, for the purpose of receiving the amount ; and that, in the event of your refusing or neglecting to payo ver the amount to me, or my agent, as aforesaid, I shall take such proceedings for the recovery of the amount as I am ad vised is necessary.—Yours, &c. JEREMIAH FOX. " To Mr. W. Jenson, the stake-holder. Dated the 3d day of July, 1844." Mr. Jenson, in continuation, said that he had, of course, refused to comply with the terms of this notice, as well as the second, which was couched in precisely the same words ; and the consequence was, that he was threatened with an action at lave for the recovery of both amounts, to be tried at the next: assizes, with the venue laid at Liverpool. This was evidently a threat to compel him, as he.conceived most unjustly, to pay the money, and wished to have his Worship's opinion on the sub- Wet. g* likr: NORTON replied that he very much doubted whether any person could be foaled who had the temerity to bring an action in such 'a case, after what had hap pned. They . should recollect that the honest opinion of a judge and a jury was to be taken. in the matter, and that there were such things happened .as verdicts for defen dants, and plaintiffs being saddled'. with enormous costs. • Mr. Jenson _observed that there were a number of licenseid victuallers in the same situation as he was him self, and it was exceedingly annoying to be obliged to put up wikh the abuse of parties interested, , while he ' himself could have no motive in the affair beyond doing 'that which was fair and just. The y , the p ublicans, were not, however, the o oly persons subjected to the abuse of interested parties as that heaped upon Mrs. Baron Al derson was shocking to ;:ear• wi A sh l e r. d N to on p T ro o fi x t t b h y ou th g e ht d t i l s n g .. c rav7 confined to parties who dully dishonest practices that had been carried on on the turf, a nd he did not think Mr. Jenson at all in danger of any am 'ion being brought against him ; but at a l l events he ( recomme nd him to take a suffic ient g . uarantee from the 11 Norton) would parties to whom he paid the money: Mr. Jenson said he would certainty (IN I so, and thank ing the worthy magistrate for his kin . crues,s and attention, left the office. There are, in the parish of Llantrisi lie near LlP.n -gollan, three totnbstones, which have bet .n unchain:bed for the last two hundred and sixty years. The inscrip tions are perfectly plain. Few church-yart Is can boast of the like.—Carnarvon Berald. - AMSTERDAM, JULY s.—The first her ring brig arrived late in the evening, in the Maes, with 40 burrels of herrings. It left the fishery on the 28th, This morning, at eight o'clock, the herrings were tK4,ught here in several carriages, adorned with Sags, &e., • A VISIT to the CONSPIRATORS. A letter in the Nation affords a striking picture of Mr. O'Connell and his companions. The visitor says— "l met the Great Man in the garden, walking with his gifted daughter ; Mrs. Fitzsimon, and followed by a bri gade of her sons, as manly and gallant-looking boys as I ever beheld. I never saw anybody look less like a beaten man, or more like a conqueror. I was most anxious to hear of his health and habits ; for a sedentary life would inevitably ruin the constitution of a man who has done more work ' to his own hand,' than any man in Europe. Both go on as they ought. lie rises in the morning about seven o'clock, and walks an hour in the garden ; hears mass at eight, and breakfasts at nine. From ten till twelve he usually devotes to his papers and letters, and the mid-day of all the visiting-days is fully occupied with his friends. He dines with the other Conspirators' at five o'clock, and gives the evening to exercise and reflection, or to reading. While I walked about the gardens he was waited upon by a Catholic Bishop from a distant colony of England, an Indepen dent Minister from Munster, a Stipendiary Magistrate, a Presbyterian Deputation from Banbridge, the Mayor of Cork, a poor Christian Brother, who stole a day from his generous labours to see the Liberator,' a Birming ham merchant, and an artist from Belgium, who came to the country to make an historical picture of the im prisonment." The visitor addressed himself to Mr. Ray—" As he is comptroller of the household, I questioned him whether the extraordinary reports flying through town, of pre sents arriving to the prisoners by every coach from the country, were true. Take yesterday for example,' said he. In the morning we breakfasted off a table covered with damask, from the looms of Mr. Reed, of Banbridge, who had just presented a table-cloth of ex quisite beauty, ornamented with the arms of Ireland, and the insignia of repeal, to each of the conspirators.' We had gunpowder tea from Raheny Cottage, sugar from Castlebaggot, and barnbracs from Town-councillor Andrews. At dinner we had fish from the Bishop of Waterford and Lord Cloncurry, and fruit for the dessert from the garden of the convicted conspirator, Father Tierney, down in the black North. This is one day —you may imagine the rest, and guess whether we can be gloomy with sympathy coming home hourly to our door.' As I passsee. the gate, the Governor, Mr. Purdon (whose name the French papers have, by a happy accident, blundered into Monsieur Pardon!), just arrived on a hack car, and I witnessed the most characteristic scene of the day. Here, my boy,' said the Governor, who is a frank, good-humwred looking man of about fifty, here is your fare, and you earned it honestly—you did not spare your whip-cord.' The driver put it away hastily with his hand, and indicated that he would not have it. What !' cried the Governor, do you re fuse nearly double your regular fare? how much do you want?' Nothing, sir,' replied the young patriot, but the pleasure of serving your honour, who, they tell me, is so kind to the Liberator.' " INTERCOURSE AMONG IRISH MEN IN LONDON. On Saturday a meeting of noblemen and gentlemen connected with Ireland was held at the Freemasons' Tavern, for the purpose of taking into conisderation the best means of promoting social and intellectual inter course among Irishmen in London. The Marquis of Clanricarde took the chair. Among the noblemen and gentlemen present were—Lord Castlereagh, Lord Trim leston, Sir Denham Moreys, M.P., Colonel Dawson Dainer, M.P., Edward Grogan, Esq., M.P., Emerson Tennent, Esq., M.P., Morgan John O'Connell, Esq., M.P., Benjamin Chapman, Esq., M.P., &e. The an nouncement of the names of several noblemen and gen tlemen (among the former Lord Rossmore), wh• were unavoidably absent, was made to the meeting. They all intimated their approbation of the objects of the meet ing, and pledged themselves to do all they could to pro mote those objects. The Noble Chairman having opened the meeting, Mr. E. TENNENT rose to move the first resolution which was to the effect that a society be formed to be called " The Irish Society," for the purpose of promoting social and intellectual intercourse among Irishmen, irrespective of religious differences. The Hon. Gentleman, in moving this resolution, adverted to the isolated condition in which young Irishmen of talent found themselves when they came to London. The evils of this isolation were numerous and great. The remedy for those evils would be found in the society it was that day in tended to form. Scotland had a similar society— so had Wales—and so had many of the counties of Eng land; but there was no Irish interest. All that was pro posed that day was that those friendly to such a society should enrol their names as members. It would be for a committee, to be subsequently appointed, to frame the rules and regulations, and make the other necessary preliminary prepa rations for the constitution of the society. It was intended, in addition to periodical meetings of its mem bers, that there should be one or two conversasiones during the season, which would be open to all, and at which there would be exhibitions of Irish genius, whether in science or the arts. There could be no doubt that the effect of such •a society would be to lend a helping hand to many a young man of supe rior talent, who might otherwise have had no op portunies of making his merits known to the world. It was intended that the yearly sum which the mem bers will hare to pay should be two guineas. All differences in politics or religion were to be buried in the dust. They would be wholly unknown to the society. Mr. Emerson Tennent, after some further observations in a similar strain, concluded by moving the resolution, which, with several others, chiefly of a formal kind, was put and unanimously adopted. The treasurer announced that 1361. had already been received in the shape of en trance fees, from gentlemen who had sent in their names as members. A vote of thanks having been given to the Noble Chairman, the meeting separated. THE QUARTER'S REVENUE. The sanguine expectations relative to the abundant produce of the public revenue in the quarter that has Just been brought to a termination have been more than realised. In the two most important branches of income, as affbrding a test of the advancement in trade and com merce, and, pari passu, strengthening the assumption that the condition of the millions of the industrial popu lation has been elevated, a most important feature has presented itself. Reference is, of course, made to the Customs and Excise, in each of which a gratifying proof is exhibited of an advancement towards a high degree of prosperity under the action of the new commercial code and duties brought forward and most trium phantly carried out by her Majesty's advisers. As tending to influence the value of the national securi ties in futuro, the opinion of large stockhold ers is, that however high their values are at present, there is every probability that a point exceeding the highest range ever paid for the Three per Cents. will, before many months have elapsed, be realised. The elements for producing such a result are numerous, and, in the first instance, let us notice an increase in the amount of surplus revenue to be employed in the reduc tion of the National Debt. It is understood that, in the present quarter, nearly 600,0001. will be laid out in this way. It may be said that so small a sum, as compared with the amount of the Debt, cannot work much in fluence, but it must be remarked that for a very long time past the amount of Stock for bona fide transfer has not been by any means equal to the wants of investors of surplus capital. And on the accumulation of the accounts in Chancery and in 'Bankruptcy, the absorption of Stock by the C o mmissioners of the Savings' Banks —the rein vestments under powers that are imperative in chartered and other corporations of surplus resources—the policy pursued by joint-stock and other banks and associated bodies—and there are sood grounds for the belief enter tained by practical men that a high range of values must be maintained for the public securities. Aloney is now not worth more than 2i to 3 per cent., and after the payments of the quarterly dividends shall have began— and that will be on Wednesday next—it is very ques tionable whether it will then be loaned on such favour able terms. It is not an unimportant feature, as con nected with the state of the Money Market, that, al though there has been a vast addition to the amount of capital engaged in commercial pursuits, still such are the accumulations that no perceptible diminution is apparent in the demand for Stocks, and Railway, Banking, and other shares for permanent investment.—Observer. NEWLY INVENTED SPECTACLES, Deafness Relieved Telescopes, Opera Glasses, &c., 39, Albemarle-street,Pic cadilly. Deafness Acoustic Instruments—lnvisible Voice Conductors when fixed in the cavity of the ears are not perceptible, they enable ineividuals at an advanced age, and of forty and fifty years' standing, of extreme deaf ness, instantly to join in general conversation, and to catch the sound of a distant low speaker at church, theatre, &c.—lt pours the conversation into the ears to such an extent that in most severe cases deafness cannot be observed. Also original Ear Cornets, French German, and Spanish Artificial Ears and Improved hear ing Trumpets of every description. Immediately the Newly Invented Spectacles are placed before imperfect vision that mist and dullness which appear before the eyes is removed, every object becomes clear and distinct, so that the most aged defective sight becomes bright and brilliant, and is brought to its youthful, natural, and ori ginal state. Also Achromatic Waistcoat Telescopes and Opera Glasses. Every kind of Telescopes of larger size, with increasing powers, for Shooting, Sea purposes, and upon stand for astronomical observations, with the cele brated Lenses of the most clear, transparent brilliancy; the powers are so great and the Lenses so bright and brilliant, that minute objects at an extraordinary distance are brought completely under the eyes.--Sportsmen, Tou rists, and sea-side visitors will indeed have a great treat. Caution.—Messrs. S. and a Solomons, Opticians and Aurists, are not in any way connected with a person of the same name in their immediate neighbourhood ; Bor in any part of the country. To prevent mistakes be cautious, and observe,—Only to be had at39,Albemarle street, Piccadilly, opposite the York Hotel. ADVERTISEMENT.—A MAN'S HAND SMASHED BY MACHINERY CURED BY HOLLOWAY'S OINTMENT AND PlLLS.—James Watkin, an engineer,- residing in Castle street, Borough, had his hand and wrist broken by a steam-engine, was eight months at the hospital, where they proposed to amputate it, which the patient would not submit to. Several pieces of bone came away, be sides the formation of three abscesses on the back of the hand. The wrist was perfectly useless, as likewise the elbow joint, which had become quite contracted. In this deplorable state he commenced the use of these ex traordinary medicines, which effected a perfect cure in about nine weeks. Sold at Professor Holloway's Esta blishment, 244, Strand (where advice may be had gratis), and by almost all vendors of medicine through out the civilised world. _ _ _ _ _ Wheat is looking well in this neighbourhood, and especially in the Holderness district ; for the most part it is in full flower, well eared, thick on the ground, a good colour, stands well, but short and irregular in the straw. Since the late showers, spring corn and turnips have improved wonderfully, and promise well. The hay harvest has commenced, but the crop will necessarily be very light.—Hull Adva tiser. PRIVATE FORTUNE OF LOUIS PHILIPPE. The following article relative to the private domains of the King, and the necessity of making a State pro vision for his family, appears in the Monitor of Sunday : Much has been said of the question of the dotation of the Royal Family, but it never has been discussed' This is the reason why so many and such grievous errors on this subject have been spread among the public. These errors have been either invented or believed, and propagated by the factious env mies of the throne, which was formed by the Revolution of 1830. A great political evil has been the result. Not only has the King and the Royal Family been sub jected to ii justice, but the King has been disgraceful l f calumniated, his situation, his intentions have been repre sented to the country in a most illusive light, by th e aid of the most insidious falsehoods, and with the most culpable designs. It is both a necessity An d a duty to destroy the labours of these inimical factions, and to re-establish with regard to this grave question the true rights and facts, and to explain it to those honest and loyal people who have been deplorabli abussd. In law the question is now regulated by the of March 2, 1832, which regulates the civil list of w e present reign, and which provides that : "In case of the insufficiency of the private domnie; the dotations of the younger sons of the King, and e' the Princesses his daughters, shall be subsequently s r ranged by special laws." Before this law, and at the period of the Revolution e l 1830, the head of the House of Orleans was inpossessi ee of all that remained of the ancient app anage o f hi s sous' in virtue of Art. 4 of the law of the 15th of January, 183 5 f which is as follows : " The property restored to the branch of Orleans, execution of the royal ordinance of the 18th and 2 0tb 7, of May, on the 7th of Oct o ber, an d 17th o f November' 1814, and proceeds from the appanage of Monsieur, brother of Louis XIV., secured to him and his tns' A issue, will continue to be possessed in the same title as condition by the chief of the Orleans branch, until es: tinction of male issue, when the property returns to the State." Amongst the conditions thus attached, according the ancient law, to precedents and to the law of 1 82 , to the possession of the Orleans appanage, were , three following :- 1. The Prince appanagist owed an allowance (legtti to his sons and brothers, and a dowry to hiS d a ughte kd r and sister. 2. If the Prince come to the throne.s appanage was united to the Crown domain, fr om 0 1 °4 it was not distinct before 1791. 8. This op ene d to Princes, while it deprived of their claims on the sr panage, a similar claim for themsel ves an d t h e ir de ' scendants on the domain of the Crown. The law of January 15, 1825, formally maintain: d e these conditions and right s . Th e R evo l ut i on of 18 ', broaght about the a,polication of the provision. appanage of Orleans was united to the Crown. Th e younger Princes were thus deprived of their claim Or t eventual succession, and this opened to them at the SO time a claim for compensation. This was recognised and consecrated by the 21st e .,: title of the law f the 2d of March, 1832, which wi re " The do:,ation of the younger sons and of the date of the King shall be fixed by special laws hereafter... In these terms was drawn up article 20 of the 1' 0 ( of Law on the Civil List, presented to the Chamherif Deputies on the 3d of October, 1831, by M. Cash: Perrier ; but in consequence of an amendment adoP 4 s by the Chambers and sanctioned by the King, 5 • article, which became the 21st article of the law of 2d of March, 1832, ordered definitively— " In case of the inadequacy of the private domain P f d vision (dotation) for the younger sons of the King' for the Princesses, his daughters, shall be ulteriorli gulated by special laws." the Thus, to admit the right of the younger sons of . 00 King, and of the Princesses, his daughters, to a pro regulated by special laws, the law requires that tlO r e vats domain of the Crown is not sufficient for that P i o pose. But if this insufficiency exists, the right li r e , exists; provision for them is due, and ought to be 1 3 vided for by special law. sill Such is the right in this question—a right fort t y established and consecrated by the old principles o o d monarchy, by the law of the 15th of January, 182 5 ► by that of the 2d of March, 1832. There is, then, when the question really irises' t he fact to -" of one fact to ex-mine-- are the private estates 0 4 King insufficient to make a pro iision for the 1 ° branches of his family?" : fiyo n The attentive examinatie thi, ;don Wm' examination o, leave any doubt in this respect. As Duk, f Orl bef% is ques h. ;sion to 00 .I.s Duke o urieans, au before its acces— throre, the King found that, with respect to his palof possessions, the amount of debts inscribed and adati tt the tribunals was thirty-one millions, while they we r j o e than sixteen millions in value. It was only by de, c ° per portion of the inalienable re v e nue d er i ve d from hl5. t er ditary property th a t h e h as b een ena bl e d, in the vat of tv:elve or thirteen years, to succeed in neo nl n r se" ; ing a liquid a ti on w hi c h imposes, even to the rre day, charges on his private domain. u ye o of f The whole of the a mount w hi c h t h e King, ssy.rote, Orleans, received as inde mn i ty 5 , 000 , 00 0 E, in . 1 ben "i tFe las of the 27th of April, 1825, h as b een obsor Palms the completion and the embellishment of the ancient Royal, now incorporated, and maki ng p ar t of tu apanage, on the property of the Crown. T ., of, tbt Besides this, without speaking of the eir - t e i s v ii Royal Family, wbieh are provided for t he t"e • t e n Sir the expenses imposed upon the King fur main of the Royal Family have increased, and are lucre" day by day. It is more than a century since the Duke of Or -- W to r the ancestor of the King, was invested, during t be nority of his nephew, the King Loui s XV., •11 ,h 7 regency of the kingdom, who not o n ly c onstantio fused to take anything from the revenues of the ° - , fe finding that his personal property and his appent t 1 1° such as to permit him to abstain from doing se , 11 16 constructed at his own cost, during the regel canals of Orleans and De Loing, and contracted , ide r purpose of accomplishing these great works, COl l able debts. 110 The King, as Duke of Orleans, and as heir is Regent, has liquidated, since his return to -e" --- ss s 1814, the last portion of these debts ; and to re:C A , bi expenses of the Crown and of his family, i"TsoP e civil list and his private revenue united are ne" 6o o. cient to cover, the King has, been obliged fer ;de it i years to pledge to the proper dep ar t men t (le Ca`-see'l° Depots et Consignations) th e rema i n d er o f the re m , th e of the property on these can a l s w hi c h were made Regent Dul_e of Orleans at his own charge. No personal prodigality is proved, either in toe of t he nistration of the c i v il li st , or t h e pr i vate pro perty - King, nor is there any confusion. his !P i Her Royal Hi g h ness th e P r i ncess Ad e l a ide, h 4 Sill; jesty's sist er , h as g i ven hi m, an d cont i nues t o V o sit; every day, m ar k s o f a d evote d ness an d o f gerl e ,,,,tl l ' almost with ou t examp l e , even i n f am ili es un ited " most intimate and tenderest ties. l h'ehsw At the same time, to meet the exp e nses to w -s.„. Majesty is expo se d a s a Ki ng an d as a f a ther, nob': jesty has been obliged, and is obliged, to contra c f ," r iso., l " which increase every day, whlch eat into his oar property, the only patrimony hitherto of the I Princes, his sons, and the Princ e s se s, hi s daught eP- F ril l ' Such is a condition of things, contrary to Old( ciples of justice, to the dict a t es o f p o li c y, a nd to t nity of the country, as well as that of the Crown' ti e!: In strict right, and in the terms of the 1 0 ' 1 1/sill' ments are required and are d ue to t h e youn ger . 5 Ye and to the Princesses of the R o y a l F am ily, for 111 t heli; jesty's private property is insufficient to pro vide Alrof tb It is contrary to equity th a t t h e younger sone, r, King and his daughters should b e d e p riv ed of 4 0 consequence of his Majesty's accession to the t oe: h e ir which would have belon ge d t o th em if t h e King f mained Duke of Orleans, an d th a t t h e e l ev ation ° s o o elders, and the aggrandisement of their houle. 5 01 1 inflict on the junior branches of the Royal Fay serious disadvantage. sa'l It is the dictate of a f oresee i ng po li cy , and theo;or nent interest of the State, that the whole Ito)r should be strongly cons tit u t e d, an d that tr e w a e? c s branches should alw a y s b e ma i n t a i ne d o n the rank which they occupy, around the throe c olli they ought to suppo"t, and to possess which eve n to right is attributed to them. br°o In short, the hon ovr o f th e coun t r y and the co ot , requires that the eslumnies propagated by the ir I to enemies should receive a solemn contradiction.. n istril That this grave question may be properly strmost Ic l the consideration of the Chambers, it is requis ° 000 our good citizens, and upright and sensible itien:lsbood be enlightened as to the truth on this subject , 911 6 Ol d r e, agree in dissipating the c'oud of gross errorc'h co to perfidious falsehoods, accumulated with so t u s tid!os to obscure, in the eyes of the country, the rip' facts of the case. We often say in Frailet in g s i f c e 'l' s P King knew all." Th e G overnment o f the lider to-day, " Would that Franee heard the case' e , only wishes thaw the R o y a l F am il y s h a ll preeeL" sta g e our constitutional m onarc h y , t h e r i g hts end s t- se 1) " which are legally gu aran t ee d to t h e f a mily c' of Orleans. Dearer, o f e sth inst., at • Great T lv e S s . ------------ -------- tO „ a , JO eN a son. ha Ye; On the • 2d inst., at Villiers-le-Bel, near Paris, trii-eitcoi twood, Ilert B, , - -5. 0 1 George Glenny Anderson, Dulwich- omrnon 0 t 13 .11 ' On the 2d inst., at Glendaruel House , c M' Chop Mrs. af et o Glendm ael, of a daughter. AI Of i v On the 4th inst., at Tb 'd 11 the law _ l i un ri ge-we S, ir" Akers, Esq., of a daughter. the On the sth inst., at White House, near Croydol3, of George Hankey, Esq., of a daughter. p MARRIED. -, A stily,. o o 4 On the 2d inst., at Wallingford, N.G. Sliley,e'l' 1, Clifton-on - Terre, Worcestershire, to Maria Je lls JO , St. daughter • of the Rev. John Langley, Rector o . c - Wallingford. c dol 3r late r On the 3d inst., at Walcot Church, Bat h, S. , •- , n ell dog - Esq., of the Bengal Civil Service, to Am elia; eldest of Dr. James Watson, of the Circus. til frO ° DIED. 0 0 ) . On the 2d inst.., at St. Leonard's-on -Sea, Louisa the eldest daughter of Captain Edmund H e yvrood, l3 • l4 l . o " bite , On the 3d inst., at Siston Rectory, Glouceste hir e' Rev. Francis Pelly, aged 64. Afe risliii On the 4th inst., in Hereford-street, Harriot ~i ti. eldest daughter of the Rev. Allen Cooper. les PO' On the 29th of April, at Calcutta, Charles An o ta young, Esq., of the firm of Stewart and Co. _ o f the On the 24th of June, at Hastings, Sophy, Nvidor SO' Dr. Williams, of Guildtbrd-street, Russell-square-„ortoo On the Ist inst., at Wish-street, Soutlisea, 1 , Edmund Ives, Esq., R.N., aged 72. so, 96 6 4: 5 k t 0 On the 2d inst., at Berwick- on-Tweed, G. pater.ciadj On the 3d inst., at Michael ' s -grove, Brompton, Pl' tto Miss Margaret d'Atournon. labelle, On the sth inst., a t Monkliams, Woodford, ow. i n fant daughter of E. Macnaghten , Esq . ? aged 2 ro° _____.---- ----- : ° Gr of ----------O London: Printed and Publish ed by MOW _ So. di No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The Sun . 00 the coaltY Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, in bliddleeez, blonclay, July 8, 1844. GAL ktny km At hit% l'are.-Pen liir om, TEE '64115TY _Tkia Dist ...at a Dim to] FFI 19 . 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