The Sun. — London, England, 1845-07-31 00:00:00

~. .....,,,..° poured r Lord, nan." sting 0 :hrZdert ryal pre• read the ity, who entered amber. istances Sunda,' ENDE.: )UGH ,EW6. RAIL WAY C 031.31 M-E (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. GROUP X. SHEFFIELD AND LINCOLNSHIRE LINE. This Committee met to-day at the usual hour, Viscount Courte nay in the chair. Mr. Greenwood's evidence, connected with the traffic tables, was resumed, and occupied their consideration some time. At the termination of this, which was but a detailed recapitulation of the evidence given yesterday, the engineering evidence was pro ceeded with. Mr. Fowler examined by Mr. BAINE, Q.C.—ls a civil engineer, connected with the Stockton and Hartlepool, Great Grimsby and Sheffield, and many others, which be either solely or conjointly with other engineers, planned and constructed. In June last was re quested to survey the country between Sheffield and Gainsborough, for the purpose of selecting a line between these points, and ac cordingly laid out that now before the Committee. (LEFT SITTING.) THE LATE COLLISION ON THE LONDON AND BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY. The following official report from Mr. Creed, the secretary of the London and Birmingham Railway, has been forwarded to Mr. Laing, the secretary of the Railway Department of the Board of Trade : " To S. Laing, Esq., Railway Department of the Board of Trade. " Euston station, July 29, 1845. " Sir,—The Lancashire mail, which is timed to arrive at the Euston station at 32 minutes past 5 a.m., entered the Camden station at 5 a.m., as the first goods' train from London was crossing the down line to proceed on its journey. The conse quence was a collision, which forced the engine, tender, and Parcels' van, in front of the mail train, off the rails, injuring me of the waggons and carriages, and causing a fracture in tleg of one o f t h e passengers in a second-class carriage, and evel al severe cat s o n th e f ace an d h ea d to another passenger, .7 the breaking of the glass of the coupe of a first-class carriage In Which he was riding, with his face to the engine. It dees not appear that any more passengers were injured. " In reporting these occurrences for the information of the Lords of the Privy Council for Trade, I would invite their attention to the following facts : " 1. That the mail train arrived at the Camden station fifteen minutes before its time. "2. That the goods' train, on the other hand, was fifty minutes later than its regular time of departure (owing to the unusual number of trains which were to be conveyed). " 3. That although the policeman at Chalk-farm-bridge had e tented on the red s i gna l , w h en the goods ' train began to move, ther was so much fog that the driver of a train coming out of that in not go i n the tunnel Could not well have seen the signal, and consequently fur these cases theo forward to communicate with the policeman at the south end f the tunnel, according to orders provided polit,ewa forrn oen , ia the bridge failed in the per. G enet ' of his duty." day, l s.' Pasiey was expeeted down in the course of yester te:to inspect the spot where the catastrophe occurred. The r g „,nl l ugagge van, and first carriages, were completely shat tr. '''' fragments. The blame is conceived to be chiefly at. ibutahle to the trains being " ill-timed." The signal-man at c halk F / - arm -bridge has occupied that post, it appears, for the ha seven years. THE LATE COLLISION ON THE SOUTH-EASTERN RAILWAY. EXA MINATION OF THE ENGINE DRIVER . Yester day n i.: afternoon, a t t wo o ' c l oc k , C apta i n Charlewood, R.N. Tunbrid - "e South -E astern Railway Company, attended the Court-house, ge, before Mr. Hare, one of the county magistrates, to prosecu te Joseph W al k er, an engine driver in the employ of the ~.t 'utoP arty, for negligently causing the collision on that line, at the r enshurst station, on Monday night, whereby the lives of nearly 800 persons were endangered. The defendant, who appears to be about 30 years of age, was brou ght up in custody of the railway police, under whose surveil lance he had been since the night of the accident. sai h T he first wit ness, William Merchant, was then examined.—He eve d e W as a nin porter at the railway s t a ti on a t T un b r i dge. On Monday g last, on the arrival at that station of the half-past six o'clock UP train from Duver, he was asked by the guard whether the at %act' car riage or tr uc k, on w hi ch a gentleman's carriage for kn u was unoccupied. H e re pli e d t h at h e did not detach ty, station, and went to ascer t a i n, w h en he found it was not, and then hi ed it. S carcely had he done so, before a gentleman called Budn to take his portmanteau into the waiting-room, which he did, return e d to the platform. He then heard some one call out to Virere ald,sh -''al„ 'eYi " Was it all right behind ?" The re ply g i ven ain . . . •, Y es," and the w hi s tl e was i mmed i ately sounded and the 71 r p ro ceeded. Witness, knowing that the signal lights were the car riage which he detached, ran t o t h e last car nage or the train to see if they had been shifted to their P r o Per places, but found that they had not, and that the train was ._ in g on without them. It was a very long train, comprising v`uote than thirty carriages, and was drawn by two engines in ad ane. The moment he saw that the train was without the signal lightsl he gave the alarm to the watchman, who held up his red i a , l 4 to the engine drivers to stop, but the train being considerably o advance, it was not noticed. 3.2 k w Hate wished to know hethr there ws an engine at the the at of the train propelling it, as he e had heard a that such was ..s., ? The witness replied that most decidedly there was not. The Chly . In cooties that conv e y e d th e tra i n were i n f ron t . uation, he said that the head porter of the station, Th e below • anted Goodman h oldered immediately a pilot engine then stand. take the station, of which the defendant was the driver, to baeim a :: atgn al - lights and overtake the train. Witness took the h sd " at direeted to the defendant, who made answer that he the t - e O „,, e6k r. e• Some was directly obtained, and, being placed in %T the engi ne s t arted. and h e nh_a Ptai n Charlewood—The defendant was perfectly sober, not think - * ety ed no recklessness when he left the station. He did the th at More than fivt hat e minutes elapsed from . the period of n turePa e defendant of the tr a i n to of the pilot engine tak e ." here asked the witness wh a t li g ht s h e bid hi m Hess ,"1.,,.. the en g i ne that the train had gone without ?—The wil tbtl 114:ed that he most distinctly informed him that they were tree The defendant denied it He was told by the witness that it was the engine light he had to take. The witness, however, persisted in his former statement, and oh 'erVed that other witnesses were in attendance, who told the de. P endant that they were tail signal lights. Richard Goodman, the head porter, proved ordering the pilot engine to overtake the train, which had left without the tail lights. It was not dark, about dusk, the time being forty.nine minutes past eight o'clock. The order was to go as far as Pensbutst station to overtake the train. George Smithers, another porter at the Tunbridge station, said directly the train was gone he was directed by the last wit ness to desire th e d efendant to proceed after it with the pilot en gine, as it had gone without the lights. He was positive h e t old him th ey wese the tail lights, While the coke was be in g Placed in the tender, he took one of the lamps of the private earriage truck that had been left behind, and placed it on the ten. der . He then got up, and while placing it on one side, in (slider that it should not be knocked over, another man brought the other la mp, and on taking it from him the engine started. Captain Charlewood asked the witness if the defendant could c h ave seen by th e i r appearance that they were the tail lights ? tile Tot he wit ness considered th at h e must have seen them, as they were In Very large ones, having red glass, very bright, and stood hBa conspicuous spot in the tender. The speed the engine dr iven at he th ought was about thirty miles an hour. It might ltanebeen faster. Th ey left fire minutes after the train, and irein,d t he Penshurst s t at i on almost at the same moment as the did. B efore, however, and on arriving at the Whitepost Za4fleeli the defendant sounded the whistle and shut off the steam, p e r after a short pause, remarked to witness, " The train is not the • !don't see it ; we must go on to the station," and than turned atiectsteans on. The station at Penshurst adjoins the Whitepost tunnel, mold(re the apot at the entrance of it, where the defendant said he not see the train, to the station, is about 300 yards. A few wefts tnen had scarcely transpired before the train was seen, when endant shut off the steam and reversed the engine, as well das hed litd.oirintoth.tehebrter:kin;. the engine, however, never stopped, and t t ,, Benjamin Cubitt, the locomotive engineer of the South-Eas h*ri'we„-411WaY, was next ' examined at much length. He said that w e e i 7 In the train in question , and on his stopping at Penshurst, ver:",was about nine o'clock, ' tie was alarmed by receiving a s e. . he s hwas as if the train had been ran into behind. The train, te e should say, had scarcely come to a stand-still, and an d "neession was very great. He immediately got out, t • • went ' 51 4 t, to the after part of the train to ascer ereon L cause, and was surprised at finding an engine close in Whe e es e t the carriages, His first object was to seek out the driver, etit te : 4 "e fo und to be th e d e f endant, and asked him how it oc tile e ef th at he had run into the train ? His reply was, that he, hon e b f n da nt, had b ean sent on to overtake the train, i t having ind ; Ith otit the lights. lie, Mr. Cubitt, then examined . the that c t a h rr iage, to see if it had got the signal lights, and perceived kr. /V none en th e e ve, the Chairman—Do you consider it a judicious step englee t oo Part of the officers at the Tunbridge station to send a pilot kne d - i vertake the train in the manner which has been de step, c e , 't els, e u ' m tVi after a pause—l do not think it was an improper /4,1 was quite a new order to our regulations. arkie aft e r ares- Was it not likely , in dispatching the pilot engine so te kr.,e train, to incur injury P reeme Cebltt--The case is one of that character that I do . not ' e at n ot O f a S irnilar one occurring before. Of course, if caution 1 4 ' Used, there was dang no t seelltear,"-Then what was er. the risk, supposing the o ffi cers had kr ."" the pilot en ine ? Lbej tfle Ctnbitt--No risk at all on the Dover line; but on reaching eat. 4:4, O f the B r i g h ton line at Reigate, where so many trains Air. 'e was considerable d anger. eitv4pktchcerutatrieet--LitTesTthoen engine w p as it wrong for the officers at Tunbridge to ha r. been I t 3ee tt rnissee at not Penshurstexactl but certainly the lights would station, and they would have ?linte-e,„Plaged. If the guard had done his duty before the train left 'or e e 'ee he would have seen that the lights were properly fixed, 14'tiortee*Ileeted to examine them and the carriages at all the hi the trains sto t b • • kar e • P a • I, elee e ha_, said he was glad to hear that the o ffi cer at fu T r Tun do do ne 8 ! .not acted wrongly in dispatching the engine, ti kr, cub " tc. Prevent mischief. jiver ~,e ' t ti in c etudnuation of his evidence, stated that the engine e kkie t .;:e the to obey . the order of the of fi cer of the station. i lide rati ee ' l the circumstances that had been adduced Into con_ be en 4, 11 e Was decidedly of opinion that had a proper • • seen kept by the engine driver, the train in advance must 84 4 41" a naltieh greater distance than had been stated. As re ikt tt,.._ h e &Peed the engine was propelled at, he could not state, te tt eeertlust have been considerable, as the collision happened within (4, 1 7 1 ' Ute e e t , after leaving Tunbridge , a distance of about five miles. h 'eet -/ the engine -driver ougl.t to . have exercised greater judg. he ° l l Arr. • „-ve tee ' , Mg so near the Penshurst station, so that he could s Okt th "re ProMptly stopped the engine. It was but justice to state 44 the ee defendent had b en about - twelve months in the service eZ,Y, during which period he had driven both pilot and n'er `ealna, and they had always found him a sober, steady ie litate eer of e Charlewood, in answer to the bench, said that the num li I Pers n . . 4, ~, - enown to be Injured were three; these were Mr. d ial s ' 'e, C lean compound fracture of the leg near the st'll'lo'eu*"e Mother of ' a guard, recently killed on the lin), h.! 1 . 1 . h t in ') . " °f the right jaw ; and a talented painter (a baronet), se ee jur r to the spine. There were a number of persons of o f le tttn t v bruised and otherwise injured , but he had been unable thoz.i.::: :.uoittth t er h: the ace 4 el 'ir na Meei as they had gone to their homes on the night At 'Hate ern, inml,nseqeuuirtetlonif? there was any further evidence on ee_a defendant being trt.4ttLeti'leiBt:iftit,l Plied that there was not.. tith e ° f th e w • called upon fur his defence, remarked that teis_ittenile.sses ever spoke to about the train being lights.. lie clearly under stood them to say, on e "e er e , "e Pent engine that the lights in questions were th ise ' l ltie e. 4;t2es. otherwise he ' should have proceeded with greater siee, lie _seersu • pr u. atm c ' , posed but what the train had the tail signal- ,',ll, Atate,„quctitly was on the look out for them. In proo f ei us eie _ -lent, be Legged to call the fireman who was with him. gi nee t o le nt, the fireman alluded to, stated that when he e t4 . t Y tetre 4 . a v ertake the train , the conviction on his mind was that '''ith ti_ i taking the engine ?Hits, th:tylie tr ; a y . Were on a strict look out and shot the tail lamps, for ‘ , l 1 eleeetohltrate then retired with Captain Charlewood and the be e l t t se 144.^1.1rarthe court, and, after a short consultetion, returned, sehnleeneeet viti obse rved that, a ft er the whole affair had had his pe i he was led t o b e li eve that the accident had arisen to tile el,t 44.it _ ket oe e. kinthe order given to the defendant relative lie therefore dismissed the case, THE COMMERCIAL MARINE. The Select Com mittee appointed to inquire into the condition and state of the commercial marine of the country, and to take into consideration and report on the best mode of encouraging and extending the employment of British shipping, have examined witnesses, and have agreed to the following very concise report :—" Your Corn. mittce having been prevented by unforeseen circumstances from going fully into the inquiry referred to them, submit to the House the expediency of their being reappointed at an early period of the next session.—July 28, 1845." DOVER, JULY 30.—Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cambridge, accompanied by Prince George and the Princess Mary, arrived by special train about three o'clock this afternoon. They were received at the station by Colonel Jones, commandant of the garrison, a guard of honour from the 43d Regiment, and a royal salute from the Western Heights, and im mediately proceeded to the Ship Hotel. At six o'clock her Royal Highness and the Princess Mary embarked on board the Princess Alice, Commander Smithett, accompanied by Sir John Hamilton, and proceeded for Calais. It is a squally evening, with rain, and they will have a disagreeable passage. His Royal Highness Prince George returned by train to London immediately after the deism , . ture of the Princess Alice for Calais. A guard of honour attended at the embarkation, and a second salute from the heights an. nounced the departure of their Royal Highnesses. ANOTHER ACCIDENT ON THE LONDON AND BIR MINGHAM RAILWAY.—A serious accident took place on the line of the London and Birmingham Railway on Tuesday. It appears that the one o'clock up train from Birmingham, and which is due at three o'clock at the Euston-grove terminus, proceeded at its usual speed up to the time of its arrival at Leyton. After passing the Leyton station, and between that place and Chaddington, the engine got out of "gear," or in some measure otherwise slightly deranged. The engine driver, Newton, perceiving this was the case, slackened the speed, and descended for the purpose of reme dying the defects, and the engine was again put in motion. On attempting to ascend the engine whilst in progress, the unfortu nate driver's foot slipped off' one of the steps, and his right leg being caught by one of the wheels, caused him to fall, and the tender and carriage passed over the nude and lower part of the calf, crashing it in a shocking manner. The train was stopped, and the poor fellow was brought with all possible speed to the London terminus, where it was ascertained that amputation was necessary, and the operation was at once performed. Last evening the report was that Newton was progressing favourably. ACCIDENTS ON THE MIDLAND RAILWAY.—DERBY, JULY 29.—About seven o'clock last night a fatal accident occurred at the railway station here. George Redfern, a porter, was assist.. ing to "shunt" a truck, when the catch on the turn-table by some m, ... did not act, and the consequence was the truck swung round much further than it ought to have done, and crushed the poor fellow to death. Much excitement and alarm were also occa sioned at the station by the non-arrival of the mail train, which was due in Derby at twenty minutes to seven, but which did not make its appearance there till alter eight o'clock. It appeared that two mineral trains had come into collision at the Claycross tunnel, and occasioned each other much damage. A stoker, who jumped off when he saw that a collision was unavoidable, had one of his legs broken in two places. DoGGETT'S COAT AND BADGB.—This very old established contest amongst wetermen whose term of apprentice. ship has just expired, will take place on Friday next. A con siderable number who were eligible were candidates on the present occasion, but as the race is confined to six competitors, the follow. ing only obtained a lot :—George White, Custom House ; Robert W. Thorndyke, Surrey Canal; Joseph Cobb, Greenwich ; Edward Gillett, Greenwich; Matthew Weed, Bankside ; William R. Pratt, Waterloo Bridge. The start will take place from the Swan, Lon don-bridge, and the race, as usual, extend to the Swan at Chelsea, the distance being rowed against tide. To the Coat and Badge is added 71., arising from the interest on South Sea Stock, bequeathed Isy the late Sir W. Joliffe, of which the second man receives 41. 7s. 6d., and the third 21. 12s. 6d. THE .NAVY.—THE RhTIREMENT.—The captains of the navy, with whom we have conversed, seem satis fled with the very liberal arrangement which has been made by the Admiralty Board fer their retirement. We have no doubt but the desired number (300) will be found that will gladly avail themselves of the opportunity of materially increasing their income. We think, how. ever, that it would be more desirable, if it could be so arranged, to allow all the captains on the half-pay of 14s. 6d. per diem, who have held that rank 39 years and upwards, the option of retiring on the rear.admiral's half.pay of 255. per diem. This would have the effect of removing the senior captains off the list, without any apparent breach of faith. These officers have been all looking forward for promotion and had aright to expect it, and it may be possible that many on this grade of half-pay may still look for their flags and de cline the proposed retirement of 20s. per diem. All the other grades will be greatly benefited by the proposed plan; for, not only will their present income be materially increased, but their widows will enjoy better pensions. There is not a captain on the half.pay of 12s. 6d. or 10s. 6d., arrived at the age of fifty.five or sixty years, who can, under the present system of promotion, ever expect to get his flag ; therefore, the retirement will be a great boon to him. CITY STEAMBOAT COMPANY.—A DPW fleet of Thames steamers commenced plying ul on the river yesterday, and the occasion was celebrated by a dinner at the Tivoli-gardens, Battersea, at which the Directors and principal Shareholders in the,Company were present ; C. L. Francis, Esq., chairman of the Directors, presided. About 100 gentlemen wete present. Upon the removal of the cloth the usual loyal and patriotic toasts were given and duly honoured. The principal toast of the evening, " Prosperity to the Citizen Steamers," was then given, and in doing so the Chairman intimated that it was their intention to build twelve boats to represent the twelve City companies ; how ever, six only were at present completed. The toast was drunk with all the honours. The Chairman's health was then drunk, followed by that of the Lord Mayor and Corporation of London. After passing an evening of great conviviality, the company separated. TIIE ROYAL SEA. BATHING INFIRMARY.—A jubi lee anniversary of this Institution, which was first established in 1796, was held yesterday at the London Coffee-house, Ludgate.. hill, where a party of 70 gentlemen sat down to an excellent din. ner. The chair was taken by the Lord Mayor, who has been connected with this charity during a period of 45 years; lie was supported by Mr. Alderman Kelly, Rev. Dr. Russell, Mr. Ben jamin B. Cabbell, and others. On the removal of the cloth the chairman proposed the usual loyal and patriotic toasts; and then proceeded to advocate the claims of the Royal Sea. bathing Infirmary to the support of the public. The aid of kind and benevolent friends had extended the benefits of this charity so far that there was now accommodation for 230 persons, and the future object would be to effect a reduction in the expense incurred for the board of patients under the establishment. Mr. Paul, the secretary, then read a long list of subscriptions, of which the whole amount considerably exceeded 6001. The health of the Chairman, who has been a stedfast friend and liberal contributor to the funds of the ilnfirrnary, was proposed by Mr. Alderman Kelly, and most cordially received. The proceedings of the evening were agreeably enlivened by the professional aid of Messrs. T. Cooke, C. Taylor, Young, Bennett, and Sketch; and all passed off with entire satisfaction to the party assembled. CORONER'S INQUEST.-DEATH FROM VIOLENCE- Last night Mr. Baker held an inquest at the White Bear, Bartho. loinew-square, Old-street, St. Luke's, on view of the body of John Ginger, aged thirty-eight years, a waiter, who died under the fol lowing mysterious circumstances. Mary Ann Ginger, widow of deceased, stated that on Monday morning, at eight o'clock, the de ceased left his home to act as waiter at the Highbury Barn Tavern. He did not return home until five o'clock on the following (Tuesday) morning. He complained of his head, but was unable to explain the cause. He lay down on the fluor, and con tinuing to get worse, witness sent for a medical man. He never rallied, and died at half-past seven o'clock the same evening. She had been unable to ascertain what had become of deceased after he had left the Highbury-barn Tavern. He had been paid at eight o'c:ock in the evening. The skirts of his coat were torn off when he came home. Mr. James Bruce, sur geon, deposed he was called to deceased on Tuesday afternoon. Found him apparently suffering from violence. He became insensible, and died in that condition the same evening. De_ ceased never spoke. Witness had made a post ',torten: examina tion of the body. There were no external marks of violence. On opening the head he found six ounces of blood between the dura mater and the brain, on the right side of the head, corresponding with a mark under the hair, visible beneath the scalp internally. A blow or a fall would cause it. There was also a corresponding mark of a dent at that part of his hat, on which was some dirt. His clothes were dirty and torn. The appearances witness bad described were sufficient to cause death. The coroner said it was a r.:ost mysterious case ; it was quite evident the deceased had died from violence, but as there was no evidence to show by whom it was inflicted, he thought that further inquiries should be made, and for that purpose he should adjourn the case. The jury coin. ceding, the investigation was postponed until Friday next. _ _ _ HLvit•:w IN HYDE PARK.---ll is intended, should the weather prove favourable, to have a grand review of all the troop., in the London district, in H de Park, on Saturday next, the 2d of August, in the presence of his Majesty the King of the Netherlands. THE DUKE AND THE PROVERB.—The Italians say " Evet y medal has its reverse.'' The Iron Duke seems resolved to illustrate the truth of the proverb. Her.ce, the Waterloo fighters have " the medal," and the Peninsular veterans " the reverse."— Panch. The defendant was accordingly discharged. At the close of the inquiry Mr. Cubitt complained of the con_ duct of several of the passengers, and the manner in which he had been attacked in the public prints, asserting almost to the extent that he was the party that had caused the calamity, and even while using every means to alleviate the sufferers, many of the offico - s were collared and roughly used, while he was similarly treated, and designated a murderer. DUNSTABLE RAILWAY COMPANY.—A meeting of this Company was summoned for yesterday, at the London and Birmingham station at Euston.square, at one o'clock; but the number necessary to constitute a meeting not having attended up to two o'clock, the meeting was adjourned to the 29th August. THE METROPOLITAN FREE HOSPITAL.—The annual festival, in aid of the funds by which this hospital is supported, took place yesterday, at the Albion Tavern, Aldersgate-street, when nearly eighty gentlemen were regaled by the excellent fare provided by Mr. Staples, the proprietor. Messrs. Hobbs, Francis, Machin, and Bradbury contributed the aid of their vocal talents to enliven the company, and sang some excellent songs and glees. Upon the removal of the table-cloths, the healths of her Majesty, of Prince Albert, and the rest of the Royal Family were drank in the usual manner. The chairman, Mr. Gurney Hoare, then proposed the toast of the evening, "Success to the Hespital," which was responded to in a way which showed those assembled were fully sensible of the merits and claims of the Institution, Upwards of 4001. were announced by the secretary as the amount of the sub scriptions of the evening. It appeared from the report, that the hospital has been most efficacious in the cure and in the preven tion of the spreading of disorders. From April, 1844, to April in the present year, 9,872 patients have been cured or relieved of various diseases ; and since the original foundation of it upwards of 611,000 persons hare met with cure or relief. The company kept up the commemoration of the establ;shment of the charity till a late hour. STATE OF TRADE.—The demand for yarn both for export and for home consumption continues exceedingly good, with very firm prices ; and the shippers appear generally desirous to extend their contracts. In goods there is a fair steady business, but without animation, except in domestics, which are rather higher, in consequence of the advance in the description of yarn used in their manufacture. ROCHDALE FLANNEL MARKET, JULY .28.—W e have had a very brisk market ; pieces hove been eagerly bought up, at better prices. There is little change in the wool market ; prices are slowly upon the advance. —Manchester Guardian. PIGEON -SHOOTING MATCH. — Yesterday a match to shoot at 25 pigeons (double guns), between Creasy and Radcliffe, two crack shots, came off at Whetstone, near Finchley. The stakes were 101. a-side. Atter some very excebent and long shots Creasy won by two pigeons, he having killed 20 and his oppo. nent IS. FIVE PERSONS DRowNED.—Yesterday morning, at about a quarter before 5 o'clock, a melancholy accident occurred on the river between Millbank and the new House of Lords, by which fire persons lost their lives. It appears that a boat, con taining a number of men and women, was returning from the fair held in Battersea-fields. On arriving off Millbank some of the passengers were changing seats, for the purpose of taking the oars to row, when the boat was upset, and all were immersed in the water. The scene was heartrending•. An alarm was raised, and boats with assistance put off as quickly as possible. Some were saved ; but, unfortunately, three men and two women were drowned. The drags were procured, but none of the bodies are as yet discovered. It is unknown who they are. We understand that Lord Mahon will succeed Mr. Emerson Tennent as one of the Secretaries to the Board of Control. Mr. Emerson Tennent will visit Egypt on his way to Ceylon, in the hope of being able to conclude with the Pacha the postal treaty, in respect to which Mr. Bourne has so lamentably failed. RAILw (YESTERDAY.) HOUSE OF LORDS STANDING ORDERS COIYIN/ITTEE ITTEE _ __--------- --. The Committee met at 12 o'clock, the Earl of Shaftesbury in the chair. The following Bills passed through Committee, after some dis. cussion : The London and Croydon Extension Railway Bill, and the Bolton, Leigh, and Kenyon Amalgamation Bill. The Dublin Pipe Water Bill also passed through this Committee. HOUSE OF COMMONS GROUP X. SHETPIELD AND LINCOLNSHIRE LINE, ------------ -- (Continued from our Aft ernoon Edi t i on o f yesterday.) Mr. Thomas Rokeby Appleby, coal and iron.master in the neighbourhood of the Chesterfield Canal, deposed to the insufficiency of that navigation for the conveyance of the vast produce in those districts. Mr. Grissell, of the firm of Grissell and Peto, u nder examination by Mr. HOPE, spoke to his procuring the stone at present used for the construction of the new Houses of Parliament from Anston, a quarry about two miles from a point on the Sin ffield and Lincolnshire line. He is now obliged to resort to the canal for the purpose of transmitting the stone, but in consequence of the. frequent inter ruptions occasioned by the scarcity of water in summer, and its being frozen in winter, it is a most inconveni en t mo d e o f convey ance. If the proposed Lincoln line were constructed, he should send the stone by it to Gainsborough for transhipment. Mr. Hatfield, an architect, of Sheffield, corroborated this evidence. Mr. Lee, assistant.surveyor to the Paving Board at Sheffield, deposed to the quantities of good paving -stone and magnesian limestone that are found in the neighbourhood of the Sheffield and Lincoln line, all of which would be conveyed by it for the use of the former town; while on the Bawtry branch there is little or no mineral of any available utility. Mr. Turner, a butcher, being asked his opinion of the Eawtry branch, exclaimed, amidst roars of laughter, in which the mem bers of the Committee irresistibly joined, " Oh, for! It is not worth mentioning. It passes through a country as barren as their pigs; it is fertile in neither cattle, vegetables, nor corn !" After this graphic burst of indignation, the witness was allowed speedily to withdraw. Mr. Thomas Greenwood, traffic-taker and accountant of Man chester, then handed in the traflie tables, from which it appealed that 100,3101. 7s. lid. was anticipated for the gross returns; de. ducting 40,1241., or 40 per cent. for working expenses, a nct an nual income of 60,1861. 7s. 4d., or 8/. 12s. was anticipated on the capital subscribed. The Committee thin adjourned at five o'clock till to-morrow ,at noon. NATIONAL TRADES DELEGATES CONFERENCE. The meeting resumed at two o'clock, and proceeded to discuss the next paragraph, which regulated the number who were to form a quorum of the Central Committee. An amendment to the proposal of the Committee was moved, to the effect that the quorum should consist of four mem. bens from the country and five from London ; the latter to manage the routine affairs of the Society in London; and the former to express their opinions on the acts of the latter, in writing in certain cases, and by personal attendance in matters of importance, and it was carried. Mr. Ftirmizin said he looked upon that decision as one of the greatest importance, and one which would more materially, and vitally, and prejudicially affect the Conference than any decision they had yet come to; and the moment this Conference was over, he would retire altogether from any future participation in Its affairs, because he did conceive they had stultified themselves by this resolution. The CHAIRMAN (who was Mr. Evans, the representative of the potters, in the absence: of Mr. Duncombe, M.P.), said he hoped there would still be left sufficient talent in the Conference to carry on its affairs, even though Mr. Fleming should retire. Here an irregular discussion took place, during which it was contended that the mode of taking the votes on the amendment was not satisfactorily understood, and that the votes should again be taken, which was eventually done, but not before a great deal of confusion had taken place. The result of the division proved to be in favour of the amendment by a majority of three. After this decision had been arrived at, the question as to the number of those who should form a general quorum was postponed. The clauses under the head of " Funds" were next agreed to, after ashort discussion. The next clause discussed was that comprehended under the head of " Strikes, turn-outs, and law proceedings.'' Mr. WIIITE suggested an amendment of a verbal nature, and the meeting having discussed It, they adjourned at five o'clock. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF CHANCERY, July 30. j (Before the LORD CHANCELLOR and the MASTER OF THE ROLM) IN THE MATTER OF THE SUITORS, (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. STUART then proceeded. It Was admitted that the duties were excellently well performed, but it was said that one of the duties that ought to be performed by Mr. Whiting was performed by Mr. Wright. Now was that, he would ask, any ground for presenting the present petition, containing the absurd and improper allegations it did, and bringing forward Master Lynch before the Court as a criminal, bound to answer those allegations P As to the inquiry it was proposed to make before the three senior Masters of the Court, he contended that no ground had been shown for that inquiry. He denied altogether any irregularity in the office of Master Lynch, for if there was he would not be eis titled to that high character which all accorded to him. He asked the Court, therefore, to dismiss the petition in justice to Master Lynch, and in justice also to the suitors. All the charges made in the petition had been disproved, and were totally unsupported by evidence. If such petitions were sanctioned by the Court, they would greatly deteriorate the office of the Masters, and tend to defeat the award of justice to the suitors. The arguments not being concluded at the rising of the Court, the further consideration of the case was adjourned sine die. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he could not go ou with the case to.morrow, as other business stood for disposal. His Lordship had intended to have closed his sittings to-morrow, but as the Master of the Rolls had been good enough to say, if the parties wished to go on with the case he would attend another day, be (the Lord Chancellor) would consider in the course of to-morrow which day could be appointed. The regular_ business of the Court, however, would terminate to.morrow. Mr. Campbell has to follow Mr. Stuart on behalf of Master Lynch ; Mr. James Parker and a gentleman behind the bar have to be heard for Mr. Whiting; Mr. Bomilly will have to reply ; and the great probability is that the arguments will be resumed in Mi chaelmas term. The LORD CHANCELLOR, before he rose, stated that after the !louse of Lords was prorogued, he would hear any cases that pressed in his private room. POLICE IN TELLIGENCE. (YESTERDAY.) MANSION-HOUSE. Richard Jarvis, the bank clerk, who was pursued to France by John Forrester, the officer, upon a warrant, charging him with having stolen an Exchequer-bill for 2001., the property of the Governor and Company of the Bank of England, was brought before the Lord Mayor for final examination. Mr. Weir, of the house of Freshfield and Co., soli citors to the Bank of England, attended for the Bank, and Mr. nobler appeared for the prisoner. The following evidence was added to that which was reported upon the former examination. Mr. John Tilbury, one of the cashiers of the Bank of England, stated that he kept the book called the journal for Exchequer Bills in the Treasury-office at the es tablishment.. That book contained an account of all the securities paid into the Bank on the Ist of April, but there was not in it any entry of any Exchequer-bill for that day, of the amount of 2001., neither had the pri soner paid in that sum on that day. It was witness's duty to make up the daily total of Exchequer- bills, and the total on that day did not comprehend the 200/. Exchequer-bill. The totals of the Exchequer-bills deposited every day were compared every Saturday, and on the Saturday following the Ist of April, witness found, upon examining the totals with the previous, that they agreed, but, if credit had been give❑ for the Ex ' chequer-bill in question, in the prisoner's book, they should not have agreed, to the amount of that bill. Mr. George Grosvenor, clerk in the bill-office of the Bank of England, produced the Bill-office Journal. It contained an entry in the prisoner's hand-writing of a 2001. Exchequer-bill, to the credit of Alexander Wilson (the bill in question), but in the totals book that sum did not appear. Both of the books were in the prisoner's hand-writing. Mr. Hobler cross-examined the witnesses, but their testimony remained unimpaired. Mr. Weir having stated that the case was completed, The LORD MAYOR desired to know whether the soli citor to the prisoner had any answer to make to the statement. Mr. Hobler—l have no answer to make here. What ever answer I make shall be made in another place, if your Lordship should determine to send it elsewhere. The prisoner was then committed for trial. The unfortunate man seemed to labour under severe illness ; and his character and habits having been known to have been, up to the time of this charge, irre proachable, was an object of general commiseration. John Davis, a seaman, was charged upon the follow ing occasion :—A policeman stated that he heard a band of music on Tower-hill, and upon going to the place saw the prisoner pulling about a girl, who was endea vouring to get away from him. The prisoner had at the time a pistol in his hand, and witness heard the re port of it, and saw that a boy who stood near him was wounded in the arm, The boy was taken to the hospi tal, where the injury he received was pronounced to be dangerous. _ _ The LORD MAYOR—Did the boy say anything as to the person who committed the outrage ? Witness—He said the prisoner was one of the persons who were con cerned. A man named Radford afterwards came to the station-house, and stated that he was the man who had discharged the pistol. The LORD MAYOR—And where is that man ? Wit ness--The inspector discharged him. The LORD MAYOR —You say the man declared that ho was the person who fired the pistol? Witness— Yes, my Lord. But the inspector refused to take the confession as he was not seen to fire the pistol. Ile, however, promised to attend here. Radford then stepped forward from the crowd behind the bar, and said he was the individual who had made the confession. The LORD MAYOR having directed that Radford should be placed at the bar with the other prisoher, asked him what he had to say? Radford—l was with Davis on Tower-hill, and the band was playing up, and we had a woman with us. Davis had a pistol in his hand, and I laid hold of it without knowing whether it was loaded or not, and off it went in my hand. The Lora) MAYOR —Let both prisoners be remanded until the boy, if he should recover, be able to attend. Davis lingered in the bar in the hope that would be taken for his appearance, but The LORD MAYOR put an end:to the expeJtation by stating that the lives of people were not to be endan gered with impunity either in jest or in earnest. The prisoners were remanded. A boy named Thomas Brudenel, pot-I o f t o M r. Richards, of the Ship Tavern, Lime-street, was eliar 6e d with having robbed his employer. Mr. Richards having had reason to suspect the honesty of the prisoner, who had been in his employ ment about three months, he marked four shillings And sixpence, and put the money in the till. The till was in the bar, to which there was an inside d 'or as well as two outside doors, which witness Locke I every nigt.t. afore he went to bed. On that morning he got t.p at an early hour, sat on the cellar stairs, and soon heard a noise i n th e b ar. U pon go i ng towards' the bar he saw the prisoner climbing user ale top of the pair of doors, and told him that he had been suspected fur some time. lie replied, "Oh, Sir, I have taken but a few coppers, and I hope you will forgive me." The prisoner then took out of his pocket two shillings and twopence-half penny in copper, which had been all marked. There was other property belonging to the prosecutor also found upon the prisoner. A policeman stated that he found in the prisoner's box some silver and copper, and brandy, screws of to !Kee°, &c., &c. The prisoner —I am very sorry for it. I own to taking the cigar. I have no father, and lam sorry for it. Committsd for trial. CLERK EIV WELL. SEDUCTION AND VIOLENT CONDUCT OF THE SEDUCER. —Yesterday Thomas Frederick Boughlon, aged about thirty eight years, of resp ec t a bl e appearance, who was descr ib ed in the police-sheet as a law stationer, residing at No. 9, Tooke's court, Cur s it or - street, Chanc ery - lane, was charged by Joseph Clarke, an elderly man, who described himself as a general dealer, residing at No. 22, Rose-street, St. Luke's with having been drunk and creating a disturbance round his house, and with making use of threatening language, by which he went in bodily fear. The prosecutor said that the prisoner had become acquainted with his (laughter, whom he had seduced, and they had been living together. Witness made inquiry to trace and recover her without success until her mother met her, on which she _clung to her, and accompanied her home. On Tuesday after noon the prisoner came to his (prosecutor's) house in a state of intoxication, smoking his cigar, and, parading backwards and forwards, swore most vehemently that he would have " his wife. H e su b sequently came at intervals from that time, until half-p as t n i ne o ' clock at night, continuing to knock vio lently- at the. d oor . H e was accompanied by three ruffians. Ile exclaimed, I will h ave my wife out. I demand my wife. I am determin e d t o h ave my property. I will have my wife this night, or de a th w ill ensue." The witness was very much ex cited, and, p o i n ti ng at the prisoner, exclaimed, °'l am in fear of my life through that monster. I will call him a monster ; he has seduced my child, and I want protection." Mr. KCMG ll TON—Ni'llere is your daughter now ? Witness I have sent her to Liverpool this morning. Mr. Bei:sue irosr—Was she willing to go 7—Yes, your Worship. Prisoner (to prosecutor)—Did you ever abuse your daugh ter, and tell her to come to me for protection ?-1\ ever, never. Prisoner— You did ; and she came crying to me. fly the Prisoner—l never accepted presents from you after I knew you were a married man. Henry John Leath, a lodger in the prosecutor's house, de posed that he was alarmed by a great noise and the prisoner's exclamations outside the house. The inmates were greatly alarmed. Miss Clarke was so terrified that she fell into hyste rics. Heard the prisoner call out, " I will have my wife." 111 e-s Clarke begged of her father and mother net to let the prisoner into the house. Witness climbed over a wall at the back of the house, and alarmed the police, who came to the spot and took the prisoner into custody. Mrs. Ann Moore, another lodger in the house, corroborated this evidence. The prisoner asked witness whether Miss Clarke was at home ? She said she was. lie told her that she had been stolen from him on the previous night, when he was tipsy. Mr. Beou GIITON—Is Miss Clarke a prudent young woman? Witness—Mist Clarke was, till her acquaintance with the pri soner, a steady girl, and her father was kind and affectionate towards her. Dayman, 161 G, deposed that at a quarter past nine on Tuesday night he saw the prisoner knocking violently at the door of Mr. Clarke. He heard the violent screams of a female in the first floor as if in fits. Two other officers came up. The prisoner said, "Itis my wife, and I will go in." He attempted to force open the street-door. He was drunk. Mr. Clarke, on seeing the officers, opened the door, and said he would give the prisoner into custody for bigamy. The prisoner said he was not married. Mr. Clarke here said that the prisoner was a married man; he had two wives ; but he could not say whether he was mar ried to his daughter or not. He had four children, and he had given them an excellent education. His daughter was a pearl worker, and was employed in a most respectable way. Mr. Beouoirrow inquired hew the prisoner became ac quainted with his daughter? Mr. Clarke—She unfor tunately went to work in the same house as the prisoner. Ile was continually coming after her, and he introduced himself to them as a single man, when he kept her away from her home and ruined her. Mr. BuouieliTON asked the prisoner what he had to say in his defence ? Prisoner—l never used the threatening or violent language attributed to me by the witness. I met Miss Clarke at the west-end of the town, and explained to her how I was situated. She said her father treated her brutally. Mrs. Clarke (emphatically)—He never did. I never, on my oath, suffered him to be inside my house after I found ou he was a married man. 11r. RitoucsiTort Ordered the prisoner to find bail, himself in 40/, and two sureties in 30/. each, to keep the peace towards the prosecutor and his wife for two months. WANDS WORTH. ATTEMPTED MURDER.—.Yesterday Thomas Curtis was charged with cutting and wounding, with intent to murder, Jane Curtis, his wife. The complainant seemed to be very weak, and the crown of her head was covered with adhesive plaister. She stated that her husband, herself, and some of the children had been haymak ing in different parts of Surrey, and on Monday evening they stayed at Coombe Warren. The prisoner, who had been de ranged for nearly live months, was very quarrelsome, and began ill-treating his eldest son. Complainant interfered to protect her child, when the prisoner struck at her with a soldering iron, which he used in his business as a tinker. Complainant escaped the blow by jumping into a ditch, but the prisoner jumped upon her, and struck ber on the top of the head with the instrument. He raised his arm to inflict another blow, which must have caused her death, when her son interfered and took away the weapon. The police were sent for and the prisoner was given into custody. The complainant added, that she went to a surgeon, who dressed her head, and declared it to be a very dangerous wound. She said she did not wish to hurt her husband, but unless he was confined he would murder her and her children. PAyarratt said he should commit the prisoner for trial, where it would be ascertained if he was in an unsound state of mind or not. LATE ANI) IMPORTANT FROM PERU. (Frons the Liverpool Times.) Letters have been receives! from Lima to the 19th of May, brought overland across the Isthmus of Panama, and for warded to this country by the last West India mail. Their con tents are very important. It will be remembered that the Peruvian port of Arica was bombarded by the English steam frigate Cormorant in August, 1844, in consequence of a quarrel, originating in a gross insult to the British Consul at Tacna, inflicted on him by some of the military partisans of the Government which has just succeeded in placing itself in power, under the lead of General Castilla. The authorities at Arica having also insulted the commander of the Cormorant on his demanding redress, and having refused him permission to take in water, he immediately fired into the town, and soon compelled the authorities to apologise. Letters from Lima of the 19th May, received in Liverpool, state that the British Government is not at all satisfied with this repara tion, and that it has sent a formal demand for redress, and for the removal of the officers who were guilty of the original out rage, to the Peruvian Government. They also state that it was denotded, and that it that the G overnment would grant the redress ort man Lima was ther e f ore f eared that Callao, the P of , would be blockaded, if not bombarded', by the of 2 English a tithe st. The C o lli ngwood, of 80 guns, the Modesto ,eam-frigate Cormorant, were at Lima, under the command of Admiral Seymour, and two frigates were ex pected 110111 Valparaiso —a force quite sufficient to enforce re dress, if it was refused by the Peruvian Government. The this follo unpleasant wing is a mevent ore comp m lete summary of the letters r e lating t o In consequence of the British consulate in Tacna having been forcibly entered by the local authorities, in the month of May or June, 1844, Mr. Adams (her Majesty's Chargd for Peru), demanded from that Government the dismissal and disgrace of the prefect of Tacna, General Iguani, as a repa ration for the insult offered to the British flag. This being refused by General Castilla, the acting president of the re public, the Peruvian squadron in Islay was detained by her Majesty's steam-vessels of war (it being assembled there for the purpose of conveying troops to Lima, which city was then held hy a party opposed to said Castilla). Under these cir cumstances, the Cormorant British steamer-of-war arrived in Arica Bay, and proceeded, as usual, to take in water from the s h ore , on the evening of the 31st May, which she was not permitted to do. After some discussion, and being a second time prevented from watering, she commenced firing on the t ow n, when the authorities, in alarm, permitted her to accom plish her purpose. Mr. Adams was on board the steamer at the time. who The bs a ir remained in ab eyance, and General Castilla, su became Presideut of the republic, re fusing any satisfaction until May last, when Mr. Adams (it is supposed under authority from home) again brought forward th e question, demanding full satisfaction, and giving the Peruvian Government a short time to decide in, it being gene rally understood that in case they did not act satisfactorily, the whole of the Peruvian ports would be blockaded. The British force in Callao Bay consisted of the Colliugwood, Cor morant, and two sloops of war, two frigates being also daily expected from Valparaiso. The Peruvian general had gar risoned the castle of Callao, and an extraordinary secret court. cil had been held on the 18th of May. The result had not transpired, but fears were entertained that the Governor would not make the desired reparation. The British Consulate had required from the several this h value of the British pro perty under their charge. In this position the affairs stood at the date of the last advices." Since the above was written, we have seen accounts Lima to the 25th of May, which stated Seymour ted that Admiral Se from had sailed from Callao to Otaheite in the Collingwoo. If news is correct, the Peruvian Government must have give thisn the satisfaction demanded for the outrage at Tacna and the insult of Arica, though it does not seem to have done so until nearly the whole British squadron . in the Pacific had assembled before Callao. This very po- MR. WILSON'S ENTERTAINMENTS.-- pular vocalist has commenced his progresses in the pro v i nm, i n which he proposes to include Guernsey and Jersey, in the south, and the principality of Wales in another direction. His opening entertainment in Chichester, on Monday, was most suspicious. A very crowded audience on the eve of " Goodwood" was scarcely to and others, let us hope, the be expected of the Chichester folk •; some were engaged in pre paring to victimise their lodgers ; greater number, to entertain their friends from a distance. Nu merous, however, the audience was, and of the highest class in rank and intellect. There was a wealth of good looks too, which all England, no, nor all the world, could excel. The fair dames of Sussex mustered in some force, and the heights of Torres redras were not more impregnable than the battery of bright eyes, nor the troops that manned the said heights more potent than were the soul-sw ee t an d heart-subduing smiles that greeted th e melodious interpreter of Burns and his brother bards of Scotland. We know, for isn't it in Lempricre ? that an ac complished son of Jupiter built the walls of Thebes by the music of his ly re, mov i t Amphion lapides canendo, as jolly old Horace sings ; but Wilson i the south of Eng. has effected an exploit quite as great o b y concord of sweeten the crowds of land, lie has moved, parallel one), who strong sympathies in common people, rocks of sense (to make the case a cannot be supposed to have very " Pheesic student," , ' with Scotland, and not one of whom, a stray the vernacular I and the Scotch banker excepted, know anything of of the north "Oh I potent charm of song.,. Yet it is not song merely that works the wonder. " Wilson is so true to nature," though say people of keen di scernmen t and profou n d sense, who, they have nev e r seen t h e pea k o f Ben-Lomond, or s n iff ed a salt herring in the Broomielaw, 011 still recognise nature even when she meets them far away from her native hills. What Moore did for the dear, and now deathless, melodies of Ireland, when he wedded them to Immortal verse, Wilson has done for what were, 1 before his day, the comparatively little known lyrics of his native laud, And, apropos of that, it were ill done to omit making some reference to the manner in whirls " Tam Glen," ~ My spouse Nancy," " Mary Morrison," and other such like gems of WWI , are illustrated by the graceful instrumentation of Mr. Land, MAYNOOTH G RAN T.—Stich ! is the b a d feeling that the discussion of thi s quest i on h asengendered, that two gentl mene of Omagh l a tely were neatly having a hostile encounter on tile subject. Hostile messages passed between them, which affair was only settled by the interfereece of friends.—Arniag A Gazette. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, .July 31. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday. ) Sir IL PEEL thought it extremely unfair to find fault with the Government with respect to the Land Commissioners. The Ant of P ar li ament appo i nting them had far different objects in view than an income-tax. They took them as they found them. Th ey were the best machinery they could get without creating new officers, and were selected as being more likely than any other body, to give satisfaction to the country, and to prevent any jealousy that might arise if the Go vernment had taken the matter into its own hands. With regard to the assertion of the Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) that the Land Commissioners who had levied a distress on Mr. Fielden's property were actuated by political feelings in the course they took, he could not believe that any person hold ing such an office could be actuated by such unworthy motives. Mr. BROTHERTON said, when they considered that the Land Commissioners were appointed through the instru mentalitymHootni.veßs acrootritiedt ntohtathtohldeygccoodu,ldasntohtesbee of M em b ers of Parliament, the statement of the p a e c rs t u o n a t s e t d o o by fre political held the opinions of those by whom they were appointed to their cffices. When it was considered that Messrs. Fielden and Co. had lost large sums of money in their business, it must be evident that they were not liable for the income-tax. Captain PECHELL hoped that the motion would lead to , inquiries into other cases equally as severe, and cited the case 1 of Mrs. Shuttl ewoo d , a poor widow, with an income under 1501., who owed three years' rent, but who, though in difficul- 1 ties, was compelled to pa: , the income-tax. Mr. FI the Go ern m rep ent would con lied, and said he would not divide the house if sent to the returns he had moved for. I The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER consented to do so and the subject dropped. RAILWAY ACCIDENTS. Mr. BERNAL called the attention of the Government to the late railway accident!, particularly to that on the South • Eastern Railway. The train after the accident was detained full six minutes by the clerks and cheque-takers in collecting tickets, though many of the persons in the train were suffering from the severe contusions which they had received. Of late, railway accidents had been very frequent, especially to the mail trains on the London and Birmingham Railway. He wished to know what steps the Covet nrnent had taken with respect to the accidents to which he had alluded, and whether steps would be taken to ensure more safety to those who travelled by rail ways? Sir G. CLERK said that an officer had been dispatched to inquire into the accidents to which the Hon. Gentleman had referred. The Government had taken steps to insure a report in all cases of accidents or loss of life on railways immediately on their occurrence.—(Hear, hear.) As yet they had not re ceived ally official statement with regard to the accidents, al though they had seen accounts of them in the public prints. He was bound to state that when the offisial report was re ceived, thst it would be fully considered by the Board of Trade, with the view of affording better security to the public. Mr. CLI VE considered that the late serious accident on the South-Eastern Railway had resulted through gross carelessness. Mr. P. HOWARD trusted that the active supervision of the Legislature would be exercised over railways, that such dreadful accidents might be prevented for the future, amid that, in the next session of Parliament, his recommendation might be carried into effect. The way in which the Brussels and Antwerp Railway was managed showed to demonstration that it was possible to prevent acci dent. Surely the engineers of this country were equal to those of the Continent. He hoped that Hon. Gentlemen connected with railways would take the subject into their consideration, as they were surely as fully competent to manage their railways as their neighbours of the Continent. Sir R. PEEL said he certainly was not sorry that the Hon. Gentleman had called the attention of the House to the subject, especially, as at present, they had no means of reaching those who were really the responsible parties. The responsibility which attached to those tonnected with the management of railways was at present in sufficient to ensure the safety of the public: He hoped, then, that Parliament would insist that better security should be given to the public by railway companies. It was no argument to say that there were a number of accidents occasioned by stage coaches. They had a right to demand that large companies should give greater security against accidents than they had hitherto given. Occurrrences of the nature alluded to had a most injurious effect on the public mind, especially at the present moment, when railways were growing into greater favour than before. He believed that many accidents which had occurred on railways might have been prevented, and might be prevented, by proper caution. These accidents followed from not having proper arrangements, and the competition which had induced such rapid travelling on these lines. lie thought that clue protection should be given to the puhlic, even if it led to a reduction of profits. Nothing could be so fatal to railway undertakings, and to the interests of their proprietors, as any course that would destroy the confidence of the public in the safsty of this mode of travelling. Mr. HUME said he would go further than the Right Hon. Baronet. Those who undertook a certain amount of work in matters that did not involve the loss of life were found to execute it, and, surely, in the more important matters that in volved the lives of her Majesty's subjects, at least the same rule should be enjoined. Parliament was entrusted with certain powers, and they ought to enforce them for the protection of the public. He was glad to bear that the Right Hon. Baronet opposite was to take the matter into con sideration next session. He objected going into Committee at that hour of the day, when such an important matter as voting away the public money was concerned. It was a bad principle, and one, he believed, without precedent. The SPEAKER —There is one precedent for it. The Hose MEMBER proceeded to say—He hail, on former tensions, when he took a more active part in the business of the House, objected always to the course of bringing the estimates on after twelve o'clock at night, and lie had been successful in getting that practice ahondoned. the vote ought only to be taken when there was something like a House and when it was convenient for Members to be present. He considered some arrangement alight be come to, by which the necessity of bringing on the estimates at unseasona bl e hours would be avoided. lie thought that Tuesday and Thursday night might be set apart for these'-who had independent motions, Monday and Friday could be set apart for Government business, and on Wednesday they might meet at twelve o'clock to settle private Bills and business of minor im portance, so as to separate at six o'clock. This would leave the evening at the discretion of Members. In meeting at twelve o'clock, it should be arranged for no Committees to sit on that day. He was sure that by this means much more business could be got through than at present. Members by such a course would haves holiday at least one day in the week, and the Right lion. Baronet and his colleagues, who so assiduously attended to the duties of their office, be allowed some relaxation from the fatigues of business. Sir R. I'EEL said the present session had been a very pecu liar one, from the great amount of private business. he calls on the time and attention of lion. Members had consequently been very hard.—( llear, hear.) So far as the Government was concerned there had not been any disposition to delay the House, but the contrary. Very early in the session he intro duced the Income-tax Bill and the question of the tariff; also his general financial statement. All this was done to facilitate business; and he must say, that as far as other Hon. Members were concerned, there had been no factious opposition shown to the measures of the Government. With respect to the ques tion referred to by the Honourable Member, he thought that the proposition of meeting at twelve and rising at half-past six on Wednesdays a very judicious one. Sitting in that House for five continuous nights was far too much, and any arrange ment to alter it he would very gladly support. Members ought not to be called on to sit every day for the five days the length of fourteen hours per day. Means should also be taken to bring about an earlier termination of the session. With re gard to Thursday nights, he thought it ought to be left to Members who had motions to propose. Having said so much, he hoped lion. Members would take such steps with regard to the remaining business of the session as would bring it to an early close. 11r. HAWES said that if such an arrangement as that named respecting the House meeting on Wednesday at twelve o'clock was agreed to, steps should be taken to ensure the attendance of Members so as to make a House. He thought that at such sittings questions that, in the present session had been discussed three or four different times, might be settled at once. He complained that though Thursday had been hitherto un derstood ss the night for independent motions since the Ist of July, there had been no certainty of any Hon. Member having the opportunity of commanding the ear of the House. Mr. BERNAL thought that next session of Parliament it would not be so easy to command the attendance of the Hon. Members as it had been in the present. He thought there ought to be some other tribunal to refer the consideration of railway Bills than such Committees as had sat upon them in the present session. He did not think it would be possible for the Government to get a sufficient number of volunteers the next session to sit upon the quantity of Bills that would be brought under the consideration of the House. Sir ROBERT PEEL was of opinion that it would be a very unsafe step to divest Parliament of the control which it now possessed. He was persuaded the House of Lords would do its duty, and he had full confidence that Hon. Members would also do theirs. Mr. AGLIONBY said that, having seven years' experience of the business of that House, and seen the evils of continuous sittings, he congratulated the public and the Right Hon. Baronet on the step that was proposed to be taken regarding the Wednesday sittings. Such a course would be beneficial to all parties concerned. Mr. HA WES said that in the twelve o'clock sittings the attendance of Members ought to be enforced. Since the open ing of Parliament he never recollected such assiduous atten tion to business in any session as had been given. All general business brought before the House had been most carefully attended to. He must, however, except the private business. He thought some change was necessary in the mode in which those Bills were considered. Mr. BULLER wished to express an opinion on the way in which the private business was managed. He would take the op portunity of stating that a more injurious mode of conducting inquiries on such Bills never existed in any country. He was opposed to stand-still legislation, and wished a change. The Right Hon. Baronet had expressed himself satisfied with the present mode, but he (Mr. Buller) was not. There were in stances of a Bill that session, which having passed through a Committee of that House at prodigious expense, was again submitted to the same ordeal in the House of Lords, hus repeating the whole expense. But what was the result even then ? The Bill was recommitted and af terwards thrown out—thus entailing prodigous expense on the parties who were interested in the success of the measure. There aught to be a court of appeal in which the whole inquiry could take place, and the merits of the Bills be argued. lie trusted that Government would take this matter into its most serious consideration. At present these questions were generally decided by parties without local knowledge or opportunities of forming a competent opinion on their merits. Ile considered they ought to transfer all the powers now held by Committees to a general board, a com petently constituted tribunal, which should have the power of examining evidence, deciding the preambles of Bills, and re porting the same to the house ; the reports to be treated in the same manner as coming from Committees of that House. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that it was worthy of consideration whether some alteration could not be made in the present mariner of conducting these inquis ries before Committees. Mr. WILLIAMS recommended the bringing forward Bills earlier in the session as a means of facilitating business. He complained that within the last month so many as eleven Bills hail been introduced into the House. Lord PALMERSTON wished to say one word on the sub• ject of accidents on railways, and on tle outset he thought it necessary to state that this was not the first act of care lessness of which this particular local railway had been guilty. In November last he came by one of their trains to London ; he was in his own carriage, which was turned with its ba c k t o t h e engine, and had ample oppor tunities of seeing what was going forward behind the train. The train was drawn by an engine in front, and propelled micas sionally by an engine behind; and if an accident had happened in any of the tunnels, the engine bellied must have inevitably run into his carriage, tor there was only a luggage-waggonsmall bet sveen the carriage and the locomotive. Just previous to arriving at a station the engine behind dropped off, so that the passengers might not be aware of what was going forward, and after the train had passed the station, up came the assistant engine ag&n. e -( Hear, and a laugh.) He mentioned the eircossatance to the Board of Trade, and he than ascertained for the first time that the company, from some false motive of economy, had had a number of engines built which were not sufficiently powerful to work the line, and they were, therefore, compelled to receive the aid of an assistant engine. His principal object in rising, however, was to call the attention of her Majesty's Government to a subject of far greater importance—he meant the present state of the national defences of the country..—( Hear. ) Any man who valued peace, or who was at all sensible of the advantages derivable from peace, must feel that this was a mat ter of first-rate importance, because upon the existence of peace depended the prosperity of the trade and com merce of the nation.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He had occasion to state, on a former day, that France maintained a standing army of 340,000 men fully equipped, with a large cavalry, and a large artillery, and in addition to this she had nearly a rnilion of the National Guards of Paris, trained, disciplined, reviewed, equipped, clothed, and accus tomed to all the fatigues and duties attendant upon a time of war. If this country were totally inaccessible, if there were impassable barriers existing between the two countries-.-if the Channel could not be crossed—he would admit that their present forces and means of defence were amply sufficient for the na tional protection. But it was not so; the Channel could be crossed in a few hours, and France had a navy in every respect superior to our own ; and the Channel, therefore, became no longer a barrier. France had a steam fleet ca pable of transporting 290,000 men. She had harbours inac cessible to any foreign Power for the safeguard and refuge of this fleet, and around these inaccessable harbours she had immense bodies of well-disciplined men, regularly and alwaes stationed. With this state of things on the opposite shore of the. Channel, it was impossible that this country could remain secure, unless Government established similar safeguards, and formed a steam navy capable of repelling any foreign intruder..—(Hear, :hear.) He might be told that our I present relations with France were of the snort amicable nature, and he trusted they would always remain an; but it was impossible they could be sure, from month to month, that this peace would continue to exist between two such great countries, having had large interests in nearly every part of the globe. Questions of the utmost delicacy and difficulty might arise unexpectedly, and they would be quite unprepared fir averting evils which might result from them. When these questions arose, moreover, they could not deal with France in that spirit of independence which was consistent with the in terest and importance of this great country, if they were not in a state to convince her that cur shores were inaccessible to a foreign invader. On a former occasion he pointed out the defenceless state of our naval arsenals, when the Right Hon. Baronet told him that measures were taking for removing !het deficiency, and he had no doubt it would he done effectually. He dwelt a'so, at the same time, upon the necessity of harbeurs of refuge, when the Right Hon. Baronet stated that the subject was under consideration, and Government intended to take a vote for the purpose of establishing seine of them. The vote, however, was too small • but he trusted thi s sma ll beginning be vigorously followed up in the next session.—( Hear, hear.) But it was not only har bours of refuge they wanted ; their steam navy was in a deficient state. There were no disciplined bodies of men sta tioned near to the coast, as in France, and, in the event of an invasion being attempted, it would take up a considerable time in getting the steam fleet ready to be used in repelling the enemy —he was much mistaken if it could be done under three months. He contended that there was a constitutional mode of guarding against this state of things, by resorting to the practice, which, from motives of economy, had been abolished, namely, of calling up the militia. A short timeago he asked the Right lion. Baronet, then Secretary for the Coloniesewhether it was intended to billet the militia, and the Right Hon. Baronet told him that it was not. He had therefore felt it to be his duty, before the House went into this Committee of Supply, to urge upon the Government the great importance of re organising this portion of our military force. There was no constitutional objection to this course; while it would considerably increase the army at a comparatively small expense. It was not enough for Government to have a majorite , in that House—it was not enough for them to pass their mea sure and scramble through the session—it was not enough for them to introduce good measures for domestic legislation, and he admitted that some of their measures this session had beers ex cellent —no, it was not sufficient for a Government to do all this; there was something else for them to do. They ought to put the country in such a state of security that they should be able to set at defiance all hostile invasiuns and hostile threats. Sir R. PEEL said—Sir, I feel all the difficulty under which any person placed in my situation mast labour in dis cussing publicly the question to which the Noble Lord has felt it his duty to call our attention.—( Hear.) I totally differ from the Noble Lord as to the defenceless position of this country.—( Hear, hear.) I think I could prove that the Noble Lord's impression on that subject is altogether erroneous ; but I am quite sure that I should not be acting consistently with sound discretion if I were to state the facts upon which my own opinion is founded.—( Hear, hear.) Nothing could he so unwise as to encourage parties —a small minority I trust—in other countries who may be bent on hostility to ours.—(Hear, hear.) I should be very sorry to furnish them with instru ments to be used against their own Government, and thus to prevent that Government, though sincerely desirous of maintaining peace, from securing that object on account of the clamour of a certain portion of the community.—( Hear. ) I must say, generally, however, that the N o bl e L or d h as greatly underrated the power which this country would pos sess, in the event of h os tili t i es, f or the vindication of its honour. —Cline, hear.) So far from concurring in the opinion of the Noble Lord, I believe that in case there should be a necessity imposed on this country of resorting to hostilities, there never was a period when such a demonstration as would then be called forth has been made; the Sovereign, sup ported and encouraged by the almost unanimous voice of the people, being determined in a just cause to make efforts worthy of the ancient character of this country.—( Hear.) I have a. strong opinion that. upon that head we hare nothing to fear— ( Hear, hear.) I think it is hardly possible to estimate what will be seen to he the dormant energy of this country if a just eause should call it forth. At the same time, I must say that I concur in some of the principles which have been expressed by the Noble Lord. I think it would be most unwise in this country to trust altogether to present appearances, arid I bold that it is most advisable that this country should be able to f. el confident that, in the event of sudden hostilities, she would he strong enough, and bas the means, for her own protection. I quite agree with the Ncbie Lord, that on the sudden occur rence of hostilities, as for example in the year 1793, unless you are in a slate cf preparation, the cost of sudden exertion is im mense; and that it is a most unwise economy which would leave you to make sudden, precipitate, and unlooked-for efforts, in order to secure your own safety. I think also, with the Noble Lord, that this country should be in such a state that any other power may not on that account be encouraged to resort to hostilities for the purpose of obtaining advan tages. I trust, indeed, that we shall be able to preserve the friendly relations which exist between this country and France ; this, I hope, will be the case, both for the sake of England and France, and for the sake of the civilised world. So far are this country and the House of Commons from grudging the prosperity of France, that I am sure I speak the general feeling when I say that we saw the returns respecting the commerce of France with great satisfaction.—( Hear, hear.) I wish that more intimate commercial relations may be esta blished between the two countries ; but Ido trust also that whilst France is increasing in her commerce, she will see that she owes that increase of prosperity to the maintenance of peace, and that there will be among all rational people in that country a deliberate opinion that the honour and interests of France may be much better maintained by cultivating industry and promoting commercial prosperity than they could be by seeking that which is perfectly unnecessary for that most gal lant country, whose reputation stands so high at every period of her history, namely, the maintenance of her glory by the increase of her territorial possessions.—( Hear, hear.) But, Sir, I must own that I am rat h er surprised at the Noble Lord's excessive apprehensions on this subject ; because the Noble Lord was in office for a period of ten years, and I ven ture to say that this country is in a better state with respect to the means of repelling aggression than she was at that time. —( Hear, hear.) Did the Noble Lord see France expend the sum of fifteen millions sterling upon the fortifications of Paris, and issue an order increasing the army suddenly to the ex tent of 100,000 men ; and doer the Noble Lord think that this country now stands in the same position with respect to France as it did in 1841 ?—( Hear.) There was no militia ballot at that period ; there was not near the same amount of military force that there is at present ' • and I very mu c h doubt whether th ere were as many sail of the line.—( Hear.) The Noble Lord has, I admit, suggested many points deserving of serious consideration. It is impossible not to see what a change has taken place with respect to navigation.—( Hear.) I think that this country has a perfect right to consult its own security. If it were proposed to increase the military or naval force of the country for the purpose of aggression, we ought most seriously to consider the policy of such a course ; but, as to taking measures for our own security in the event of public hostilities, the last consideration which should present itself to the mind of a Minister of the Crown is, " What will other powers think ?"—( Hear, hear.) I should certainly not hesi tate to propose to Parliament, without reference to any other powers, what I considered necessary even for contingencies.— ( Hear, hear.) With reference to the dockyards, let me ask what was the state in which we found them ? The Noble Lord does not tell us that years passed without any measures of im provement being adopted. An HON. MEMBER—Steam was not in existence. Sir R. PEEL —The improvements which are even now going forward make it desirable that we should not be hurried on to the adoption of measures, lest the money which we expend should be entirely thrown away. We have a perfect right, however, to take precautions for the defence of the naval arsenals and dockyards of this country. For the Navy and Ordnance we proposed this year an addition of 1,100,000 e in the estimates. I am placed, with respect to this matter, between two fires.—(Hear, hear.) Every word that I say in one direction may induce other parties to exclaim, " See what the Minister said in the House of Commons ; tee must now have two or three millions more."—( Hear, hear.) I should be exceedingly sorry to see a race run between great powers —not a race in commerce and civilisation —but each increasing as far as possible its military and naval force.—( Hear, hear.) There must be a limit to that. It is a question of the nicest discretion, whether you shall propose large sums for the army or the navy, or whether the effect will be to add to voar rela tive strength. I know not a nicer question with regard to economy and to every other public object than the extent to which yeu will proceed. I hope, however, that this country will never depart from that policy which has secured its safety, namely, that of being strong as a naval power, and at the same time not attempting to enter into competition with the great military powers of Europe--( Hear, hear.) Say what you will, this country would not be satisfied with the existence of a standing army of 1 00,000 or 200,000 men kept within our own land. I admit that the amount of military force is nest sufficient now to enable you, consistently with due economy, to meet the demands which may arise; but with respect to our becomi ng a great military power, and relying upon having a military f orce a b le at once to meet that of other countries, except for the purposes of our own defence, that is a compete tion into which I trust this country will never enter..-(!tear, hear.) I do hope that this country will always have such a degree of naval strength as will enable her to feel entire con fidence, in the event et* hostilities. Then, with regard to the d subject of local m ili t i a, let me ray that I apprehend we leave a emands in case of necessity, upon a body of disciplined men amounting to 50,000, in whom we might repose great hearcenfidence. I r e f er to the Chelsea pensioners.—(Hear, . ) When I was Seeretary of State twenty years since, I even then felt that the militia was in an unsatisfactory state, ; and that there ought to be some local force constituted in this country. The Noble Lord is aware that under the Act there is no prohibition against proceeding to ballot for the militia. The Act suspends the obligation to ballot, which would otherwise be imposed on the Crown; but, in case of necessity, the Crown would still be able to resort to this force. I would observe, that there has been that change in the state of society within the last few years which would probably render the present militia law s not exactly so su it a ble as they were, and they might, perhaps, un dergo useful alterations. It is not necessary, perhaps, that I should now enter into any further explanation on this subject, which the Noble Lord has int ro d uced. lam bound to content myself with stating that his impression as to the defencelessness of this country is totally at variance with my own. I . lot alsnot of that which concerns the public spirit and the honour of Englishmen—( hear, hear)—for lam sure tht cante Noble Lord will admit, that with whatever difficul lties idbe appeal to the country might be attended, that appea wou . entirely successful.—( Cheers.) Whatever may be required for the public service will be asked for without scruple by her Ma jesty's Government. lam sure the House will feel the ne cessity of plaeieg this co untry at all times in such a state of security that it will not have to depend upon temporary and possibly delusive appearances of tranquillity, but there will be actual peace, without any anxiety as to the result of the imme diate occurrence of hostilities.—( Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord said that we had fortunately a large surplus. But who is to be thanked for that ?—( Hear, hear, and laughter.) We have a large surplus in consequence of that imposition of tax- ation which, besides giving us this surplus, enables us to take precautions for the security of the country, and to remit that part of our taxation which has appeared to us to press most upon the labour and industry of the community. Having a surplus, we feel that we cannot apply it better than by taking precautions against eventual and possible danger; and the increase of the votes for the Navy ate! Ordnance and the vote proposed with respect to the harbours of refuge show that, while we attend to the claims of the people to the remis sion of taxation, we have not neglected the precautions which we think necessary for the safety of the country. With respect to has th b p h e e se fi l r y st sm ye a a l r that i,and an l y h p e r pe opo w sa e l e ee l n tar m bo a u de rs . of l r eh f e ug y e e , te th i i a s purposely shall not be driven forward too fast. Nothing can be more important than that we should take the best opinions as to the proper mode of securing the object. I take it for granted that the House is satisfied of the necessity which exists for those harbours of refuge which repeated naval commissions have re commended. The subject has undergone. such full investiga tion that there can be no necessity for any further inquiry. Dover, Portland, and Harwich are the sites which, as the re sult of repeated inquiries, are pointed out as the most appro priate for harbours of refuge. We have felt it our duty with respect to each of those places to take the (Onions of the most eminent civil and military engineers as to the best m ,de of insuring to the country the greatest permanent advan tage as the result of ti n t money expended. With respect to all these places, and especially Dover, it is of the utmost im portance that we should have the opportunity of profiting as far as possible by the opinions of those who aee best qualified to give advice on the subject. These various matters are occupy ing the serious attention of the Government, and if my answer to the Noble Lord be not entirely satisfactory, I entreat the House to bear in mind that I stand in a position in which I must appeal to their confidence, because I cannot state the par ticular facts upon which my own impression, as opposed to that of the Noble Lord, is founded.—( Cheers. ) Lord PALMERSTON said that he had not stated that the naval and military resources of the country were in a less efficient condition than at any former period. All he cern tended for, and he did it on three or four grounds, was, that such had been the improvement in steam navigation, that troops might he transported from one part of the empire to another with the utmost facility, and the economy of the military department of the country was so much improved from what it had been in times past. Ha had no intention of impeach ing the efiergy which the Government had shown in moments of danger, but he wished to prove that the previous organisa tion was defective, and that it ought, therefore, to be amended. After a few words from Sir ROBERT PEEL, Sir C. NAPIER said that they had at present at sea eight sail of the line ; but they, in point of seamen, were two rates below their proper weight._(Hear, hear.) It was only the other day that the Gallant Admiral opposite found it ne cessary to increase the number of men in those ships, and be could not have adopted a wiser measure. The Secre tary at War had stated, the other night, that no difficulty was met with in finding persons willing to enlist into the army or into the Ordnance, but he could assure the House that the greatest difficulty was found in inducing sailors to enter the navy. The Right Hon. Baronet had also spoken of the state of their steam naval force. He could tell the Right Honourable Baronet that in this respect they were inferior to their neighbours on the Continent, who built their steam-vessels for an increased number of men and weight of metal, while they (the British) consulted only the rate cf speed in their naval architecture,—(Hear, hear. ) He (Sir Charles Napier) was glad to hear that there were 50,e00 efficient pensioners —men able to bear arms in the country. Ile was glad to hear this, because they, with a little training, and the 30,000, the standing army in England and Ireland, constituted a su ffi cient defence against foreign invasion.—(flear, hear.) The statement of the Noble Lord had taken a great weight off his mind. — (Laughter. ) MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. Messengers from the Lords brought up several Bills. SUPPLY. The House then went into a Committee of Supply. On the motion that 80,300/. be voted to defray the superan nuetion of persons formerly employed in the civil departments of the Government, Mr. HUME advocated the improvement of the natural har bours of the country, that they might offer a better defence than hitherto in the time of war, although he was a man of peace and not of war, one hundred and fifty thousand ships annually entered and left our ports —a numbe r per f ectly astonishing when th e sma l lness of the island was taken into account—for which there was no proper protection in the na tural harbours of the country. He hoped that the Government would assist nature, and devote a sum of money to what he had suggested. Sir R. PEEL thanked the Hon. Gentleman for calling their attention to the subject. The report of the 'I idal Commissio n , and his suggestions, should receive due attention from the Government. Mr. P. HOWARD wished to say a few words on the subject, as he had attended a deputation from the Isle of Man, which had waited en the Right Honourable Baronet with respect to improving the unprotected harbours of that island. The authorities of that island were ready to devote a portion of their revenues,_ to this obj ect if t h ey were supported in their efforts by the Government. Independently of the advantages se hieh the construction of harbnurs or refge would confer the shipping in that part of the empire, u they wouldo be on portant elements of nat i ona l defence in the event of war. int- Mr. WILLIAMS said the persons who received the vote had in many instances rendered an important service to the country. They had received large salaries, which enabled them to save money, by which they might support themse l ves when unfitted for active service. Their support fell heavily upon the country. The vote was then agreed to. A of the na vote onal of I,Bsvaco/. was proposed for def ray i ng the expense,: ticine institutions. It agreed to. 5,000/. was proposed for the Refuge fer was the Destit u t e . In consequence of a suggestion made by Mr. HUME, Sir J. GRAHAM proposed that it should be reduced to the usual annual amount voted, namely, 3,0001. for the same I urpee.e. The vote of 3,000/. was then agreed to. The next vote was one of 11,8004 for the Polish refugees resident in this country. Mr. BORTH WICK did not wish to increase the number of refugees, but thought som e a ddi t i onal grant ought to be made. If the Right lion. Baronet could by any remonstrance with the French Government prevent the transmisrien of refugees from that country to this, he thought it would be highly desirable. It was certainly a very heavy tax on English benevolence, and money was expended on foreigners to which our own poor had a prior claim, but there was no alternative for these poor foreigners but starvation, if Parlia ment did not interpose. Sir R. PEEL must decline making any remonstrance with the French Government on the subject, arid he thou g ht there was some compensation for the expenditure! in the reasons Re signed for the refugees coming to this eourery. England was the only country in the neighbourhood France to which refug :t ees would be admittedood o after being expell e d from France, andhe refugees themselves preferred England to any other country, "as being able to enjoy the greatest toleration and liberty there."—( Cheers.) However, Fra nce was at present encumbered with 11,000 of these refugees—this country had 12,000, so that, in fact, the number was nearly divided. Mr. J. ABEL SMITH said, that it might not be out of place in Lim to remark upon the intelligence—the melancholy intelligence that had reached this city to-day, of another alarm ing fire in Quebec, by which 1,300 houses were burned and thousands of poor people reduced to destitution and suffering. He wished to know whether it was in the contemplation of the Government to alleviate the sufferings of these poor people. Sir R. PEEL said he had learned, with the utmost regret, that another calamity had befallen on a previous similar occasion. The Government then had done all that was possible for the sufferers, and he felt confident that on this occasion similar care and sympathy would be evinced. The people of this country had exerted themselves in the most creditable manner, and he trusted that a like benevolent anxiety would be now evinced. He thought, however, that Parliament should show its sympathy with their suffering fellow-subjects, and he would propose a vote for that purpoin on a future ocsion—the vote ,he th oug h t it rigle , to say, be not s o much for the pur would p . r., as to mark the sense of th e House.— ore of rai s i ng as e (Hear, h ear .) The vote was then agree d to. ,e nsions of minis- had been A vote of 4,932/. was proposed to pay the P tors belonging to the di ssent i ng congregat 'was which formerly included in the civil list, 'amendment, to the effect that A DIE. i r . H c I A N R D D L: E Y p re pared L ose n d the amendment and supported 5 , 6 58 1 . paid to Independent I ninisters be withdrawn . the original vote. The House., awn divided, when there appeared — For the original motion... ...................... 52 For the amendment ............... ..... 8 Majority against the amendment ........... A vote of 2,1461. was then proposed, to defra ciatrities, bounties, an d ot h er charges in Scotland. y Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the vote. The vote was agreed to without a division. A vote of 1,329/. was agreed to for defy the House o f I n d ustry in Dublin, a ying the expenses o 2,5001. was agreed to for the Western and Lock Hospitals. 1,5001. was vot e d to defray the expenses of Stephens's Hospital. WO/. was voted for the expenses of the Hospital of Incurables. On the and other mi v i onisters te of 3526/. an being propo se d f or Non- conforming n Ir 4 eld, Alr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD, according to notice, op posed the vote on account of its smallness, and proposed that no less than 366,000/. be devoted to these clergymen. Mr. WILLIAMS did not agree with the liberality of his Hon. Friend, and opposed the vote on the principle that no class of clergymen should be paid by the State. Mr. HINDLEY objected to the vote on the same grounds, anti said that these clergymen could have very little depen dence on the effect of their religion on their flocks, when they looked to the State for provision. Mr. HUME suggested that after the passing of the vote no new recipients should be taken on the fund. Mr. WILLIAMS, said if the lion. Gentleman would not press the amendment to a division, that he would do so, as his constituents objected to the State paying the ministers of any religion. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the vo t e Against it Majority —sB On the sum of 22,565/. being proposed for the colony i f 1‘ itrs Zealand, Mr. J. A. SMITH asked the Right llonourable Baronet for an explanation of the present position of the affairs of New Zealand. Sir R. PEEL said that this wa s not the time to enter into a discussion of that subject. If the Honourable Gentleman was desirous to open up the matter afresh, he would have an. other opportunity for that purpose. Mr. HOPE said that the present vote had nothing to do with the matter to which the Honourable Gentleman alluded. Mr. ROEBUCK said that this was the last colony which should be dependant upon them for support. If a little care were taken in its management, such a vote as the present would be altogether unnecessary. It would be able to maintain itself. Ile would recommend, in New Zealand, what he would all l a Political survey by properly appoint e d persons, and in every district so surveyed, a power to be grantd to evy o ne, whether w hi te or black, to register himself, e with the er view of voting, and when the country was so parcelled out into counties, and not into states, he would recommend a general representative system. Let not this great question resolve itself into a petty squabble between the Colonia I Government and the New Zealand Company, but exercise a broad and comprehensive principle ; and then there would be an end to those painful discussions which had lately occupied the time of the House. t Mr. HUME said that the way in which our colonists had b: en treated all over the world required that Parliament should pass an Act declaring what rights should be enjoyed by the settlrrs in our colonies. He recollected the high hopes that were excited, a few years ago, when that colony was first settled, and he was much grieved since to find the evils which had clouded them, and disappointed so many. All the mischief, all the petty quarrelling and division in the colony had arisen from the meddling of the Ilome.offiee. He thought that no good could take place until the rights of the colonists were properly defined, and a settled form of go vernment conceded. The United States of America managed their colonies in a different way. When they colonised a tract of country, they had it surveyed and sapped out, and the set tlers had a valid title given to them to the tracts of land allotted. Had this been done in New Zealand, a great deal of the evils which had overtaken that colony would have been avoided. He implored the Right lion. Baronet to interfere and make a pm. per settlement of the question, as no one trusted the N bie '$ • ( 27—, _ • THE SUN, LONDON, T H ITRTSDAI EVENING, JULY 31 1845. RAILWAY COMMITTEE. at an early lump nf r.r& 9 • near aes °' Old r le° rojec d the Iwo 0 0 IWO, 1 tbO ,ut t° etur elle' li vr a c 1 ace ufl t F i r sr' Ili' vet )9' 310