The Sun. — London, England, 1844-06-12 00:00:00

rjp el . cr a lker, th e Institution. turday lash: than a were Pre; )re bruliaAr personsi? ra tifying. r host ii:00 • • institution, c i their lit. t ' fiC sci e/I t i be :!ea bl vib ° o k err ,tlO O I" „ ;te r ' ea ; e d e feo; , the l ed t e ,roo defell cei r sirO n th,e rer, t c , f o r esti° ga bb I ° fol . ; is bo e rr OP° t ji %ge r f os: for 0 (ThNPt °tl v, _a the '4oo l ' ;eV , ~ c e )0 1 ‘ , P J 44 iv ti tle I ' f l ich tb e o on t ic A tor rA t poo v „ t 0 ,4 5 v ve d obi 0 8 ro • gde ,i7d :t 110 u— ot 4 ,h0 tb or „ e to ar ite h e ntS tb ° l c e i n bi jou , nO . 0 01 ' Ob t9l (ef t the ell ) rie s ' o o' her 0 5 for e a r j of tb )rt tha t LONEL SI'OI4DART A.ND CAPT. CONOLLY. d a , C aPtain Grover has received letters from Dr. Wolff, AlPshe-I, from the 14th to the 24th of March. eidere 'Tkiligence contained in these letters was con ct " important that they were sent open to tzaatinople, for the perusal of Sir Stratford Ca.n to This t‘ account for the dates being anterior `4ose beenalready received, extracts from which have •A -t Askarea, two miles from Meshed, Dr. Wolff Wh o l a rl i e , t . by Mullah Meshiakh, the Jew of Meshed, It o .isted lim in 1831, when he escaped from todedirYi.at_,Torlid. He was accompanied by Macon. h eard it iseraf, Colonel Stoddart's agent. 'l'hey had T his, approach by .the caravans. • which all Ali Seraf was the channel through ti ed ,a the correspondence with Bokhara was car hour°ll.,., and the Doctor says, "In less than two se o Li- found this man to be a lying, treacherous villai-461.' Numerous proofs were given of .his c 01 ,,_ 11 5', a:id &h; it is sh own th a t h e a l one , an d no t salt is to bl ame f or th e d e t en ti on o f the, rts letter. The Doctor discovered that this man' 844 his possession property belonging to Colonel tei ate a rt of the value of 2 f ooo/.. sterling. He thus 4,1 4,.conversation that took place : lett as ^ed him whether he had sent on the Sul-an's ehrtwhich had been sent to him a year ago, which h e _ s‘their ht back to Colonel Shiel on the report of With e 'th, and which Colonel Shiel had returned, an ex Press order th a t it s h ou ld b e f orwar d e d to Al it a h ra at any rate ?" tAlc e(h 'ilinad Ali Seraf—" No, for nobody dared to kr . " 4 rge of the letter." Was 'ilifhe."---`'Whv did you not give it to the man who rlttE.'t.": by the Vice Roy 33 days ago, at the re -4(44 Col one l Shiel, and who also took a letter AT A e , I( ing of Persia ?" Ini ght I was afraid that the King of Bokhara t r B l 3 ect the messenger." 4 , 4 pl ay ? i l l'? immediately took the letter from tan , z4eil it in the case with the letters of the Sul itlPe Xing of Persia. t he d e n's 4es Montefiere had kindly written letters to sofßokh ara, S amercaa d , B a lk , an d It o k au , p B Pect ab l i le re to have be en sen t th rou gh a highly re 'c'ionefe ` T .ew of Meshed, named Mullah Medee, but Nti or , S lite'l, of course, accor di ng t o St o dd ar t' s di -IVoltf L s 'nt the m t o t hi s M u h amma d Ali S era f. D r . L l Nti laired ab ou t th ese l e tt ers , an d f oun d the .iar a) i ll 'Portant one, addressed to the Jews o f B o k hP o session o f thi s man w ith the sea l b ro k e n ; as ;r4 letter, a d as it was no longer of use he I Nll i i r Peci it to Sir Moses Montefiore through Co l. iho u tt i 8 / I , h sequent letter the Doctor mentions that Aga h kAseni,formerly a . respectable merchant, _ _ ~„galls es „ag,ent, -informed him that Colonel Stoddart l,c,o'(;',4luhamrninad Ali Seraf shawls to the value to Ptrche‘• sterling, for the purpose of raising money to S tlt ; s k e an estate • The Doctor says :—"I asked hi . at; he replied, ' that he had still the shawls in Z 4 loii4 s sion, anclthat he intended delivering them to 4 , w r i t ' "3toddart's sister in person ! and then sat down `st4 l e a letter to that lady. You see by this that to t e t been mentioned that Dr. Wolff was interese'-corted by 270 Turcoman chiefs. He gives an t it b tin g account of their having been as,eMbled in „ tl th„ - c Y the Vicero who showed to them the letters ti 4ia' 3 ,, ti r , it an, the King of Persia, .th . e English and t eept, • 4111 'oys, and thus addressed them :—" Here' eikl,l -41 cni to you an English Mullah; recom 40v t° the Kin gs of Bokhara and Khiva by four I h e r e 4 to ga Powers. They stroked their , b , eards, and 4 114th e °flvey me in safety to Bokhara. '°es t o ;: 1 ' chief of a caravan, named Kurban, who k_mtt a ,pkhara every three months, states that Stod i`slti Conolly are alive, and imprisoned i ‘ n , the a °ll l tside Bokhara, and the Doctor says— *Ka- !? hislY u rcoman chief; showed me a letter written Litodda-l'other at Bokhara, in which he states that 11, 11 w as alive to a certainty ; and his Exce psh o -- e Assoof Addowla (Viceroy), of Khorassan, ;ho 1 41 , 1 I seri' the King's courier, to inquire whether "ard li ,," Re to him, at Maddan or Meshed, sent m , e , ,14114,t, Stothlart and Conolly were alive last year. °Olff states that the Saleh Mohammed, who t toci r hie ita ated to Shiel the • report of the death of h ataL t and Conolly, is not the Saleh Mohammed ,a n k new in the Year 1826. He also mentions c-utill4 A mbassador from Russia had arrived at ,7 .- 1 4 Grover communicates to the Editor these Z4e, hu received them, and, as he has alwayg ",atliew'thout comment; and he hopes to be allowed,. f" . te P t r il e !en he , occasion, publicly to express his grati- N)cretary of State for Foreign Affairs, slued th powerful means he has so kindly employed to tl l , l' sSl ee, and which, should the Almighty have . ilves o f is friends, will, he doubts not, their restoration to liberty . to t , kJI-a JUNE 11. OGNE-SUR-MER, one 1 4 1 14 chu(Preaholts o ev u i ll d,n o NJ; CoRitESPONDENT• Frances as ev c er lebra- NO Pl aee the change is most perceptible,resent at the e ti q (1r wit had been or ~.. ness who gaining gr()und in • Iltil-,,b-'tnty of seeing the process ?Ptirth` g .e Pete Dieu some years i : i d much ,le showe d er k'tl e last. The peg) procession n go and had ailnso the }sealer do Sunday and service revolution. They :, I '4l' Ell lY period since the 'Ps , e votion and reverence for the rites than, together ; ' i d t 1111 , tebers—men, moortahlse,m d Ekill in et_ women, and childr c e s n u t i o e g d e them: aended 4, 1 8 4 ti er men, awar e of their importance , forward, and that supremacy 1 4 E l l 40 di a l an an air that showedtheylo s oked qht period, to recover. religious ft °4 ee held over the thoughts, ba r eßs f To r? de community. letti zhibited indomitable perseverance religion was !`' • ff e j usticet the 1 4 1 ,, Il k th e . When .. s of indi 1, gat ir Purpose . . 144 üb, and the anand., which - t 5 -, sod ently of .ridicule, they submittedand f ek3 41 .,, not unfrequ . patience priests were object voured to and*endea . k(itlie4:raPt, and scoffing with Christian . 'aitl, 'ance; the reviled not again, rather i, at i • Y. religious humility and . th • Impression upon the . irreligious . public . i ' d l) , :'l‘ Passive resistance, their the Court was wholly 1 0 7 derail", the tihan by the authority of the State even in . , 4 it f ' tile Bestoration, i can har rudely, qlt4s4v.'nr. Their plan is one w when the ch klkl boo they do not grasp at thei . i c • s o o llec th t kliii:,.fe the time. The ceremonies This perm 1 4 lt the. •". great perfection. , 3,, a fir tactics in season, has been e t last . w d ee cf tv'aellareirtbe, most .. delightfounlngof into the f or Qii au rnntlng the. ) . most s generally 4) urlo The • is and canopies, , t ' t , ,,,, ` • weather• altars . 'NI D','" ,Processions, for erecting the communion with t k lci, ti 4r:era:ling the most solemn religious it is well known, k i n n ohwnr: 1, 4 t t , 4- "", a circumstance, raga 4 ' 'adescri still observe bable at th Of the c and 'which . which w Covenanters nt by 'their effect to the religious the v.,,,'ehration of the Sacrament sur ehurch has far for ‘ , l - Au h the d rt . But Catholic . scheme religionists in their ligi d ou es s ce g n a d t an e t d s tt giv •t'l'n these sturdy %t 1 ,4"11 g ti They to the num lit , 4 14 ‘, le people. of boys and girls, at particular I,l r (i . ,`l4'3' Processions were formed ,•,,'448 „`tu,tit five hundred, begin with the young. church to be best ;Mil,' 'NI thou conducted to t h e principal 4te, (.-"(1. They were all decked out eculiarly.eiegant ,1114L.':' 'lnd those of the girls were. Pintheir with long vtil ''4eeful h • of purest white muslin , 4 a ft,wil , elng t he some ribbons of heel °l tihi,,,,:g over the face, occasionallyon their of roses r, The olour, and little garlands the and frequently, _ k k i t he r , mothers of' the children, rest of the crowd, tt' d i ; o 3 ,. ; "`)°, we r • in the line with the and evi .Ne-41' th • e ' • in affectionate terms, made on the 4 14 y, 4,heir children the impression m untenances. 13 11 44d eis i' l ted with dresses and happy countenances.' to,iellk,thi y t their guy the ( erem"nY °- inc the same 4144 Places Z; .1.1 church afterwards departed the. t 4, oe p iri , id they Sunday, On were Altars "io . w hich they had arrived. scale. .0. (1 , , 0 14 3 render long tapering L tted • Overe on a g shaded by \, ll lel i in t.le principal streets, resemble groves,. - ith sor birch, arranged as to church, massive 4,1 1 411 t he o sa" thbols o f the . toter of low Nitics outward sy tapers burning, c h tempy 14 0 4 hiln ' with ii ft quarters of t th t 'Q3, hts g uP in different q with white linen in colours. Oitit • "lell Were generall lined of various . -4, qior, anden,p dwith tapestry of the ko:i . ten to - "Ae o'clock reliious ceremonies kclt %,„,/eO, eleven . priest in performed by a chieftrain o f his lotßF334s "t 1 klnd were _.along bt lll 'n ti ' l3 ' . s. and assisted •Mr headed b two church' could.. t ki, 441 ' This Procession was than they e , _ _ . men .....he ii ' 4 d , 11 More warlike cf France. .i. ac y . 'rye bier 'quad in the army swords, t tri,,i Re cocked hats, with Its eu e , being at least 4 rot. l ots cocked halberts,he ear alt he t their martial air, they 4,, a a. ,_f t to add to d have done liNl, 4.106,1'9 long, and.os which won! i iti ;•4 o ar to artt dmoustaehi Thus the religious ceremony was eole -4444; but at fi v ,,, v - afternoondragoon. Thus high mass the whole of 11 14 ,k 1 ill the c, in the f St. Nicholas, and with 4Pteti."Re buil4u"b galleries o were crowded• at and all, • posMg, "%, : t' '' s . Th ng' service was very_ Inl ng ki contrast til tu ailp. ,_ a striking Wile d ‘i ii:Lae, an certain y • I formed • he nlish formed in t fact , and 41.-‘hreh nionotonous rites per the 9 Rome b The Pus yites are aware of , 1 o f to 14covvin. th e e- ean n o f the Church a r vive the -11,,,,, tastuin bt,h. W ''..) 8 fbric, an- -e if the y @ . the 0 . toititertng It s would be well t i n a body, to L i t In alborePesttiedw,; find marched . out i power i f th kir C atholichonestbrethren.: The increasing attention Of.. tl *G °el '•gY he Ilan ovttri_ lot, has .y the King, ot perhaps I also the ilieN)lval and M. Gu . iz , by the New d if sh,. t Th,,,,,.... counteract it i time B and errs 7 unurch, however, ma prudence pare N I , Si. assuults with her usual I I ; e • importance ` N.,;4,l(klightful wate ring place is rising in ier from , tl ', I Z4Y. Th.ei s p teamers, 'l4-111ent urrival B an a 4e n parture of English traffic and .t:ti„i eerthinb. greatly to the „r eontrib te 1 , Ii ty or „ e _ • u En increasing j " 4l l4vib er 'st,nanTace. The lish now are the g the best withterms . 444t114at5• TheraP ove pear to be on .. ow _ vei , , for imprar.. klikti.ip theme of ti:s Publicb'l'eat o lo c m cs , n e at Boulogne, P iv C e l n l'Ythf r!'he Passport Though orders had I - 1 g quilf; ‘;oromissi of the Customs, taitAllP at th Per been board is and a _et._ e oor of the officeto effect that i3cos n .cen (IN ,°,vtohark Would for the future be issued „no,. l lq tl l l l .q fuer o'clock each day, yet the officers fre9n fact,i rtth srt 15 order, as well as others, at -defiance.. •L ee : a gteat deal ofloOseness of discipline in French.e s ter , '''Y a P ' Partic u l ar of as regards foreigners. But . ) w. en. tht,y- Party applied t h If- ast one for permits,_ b I te 4„„ We l",e told no a ! - 1) i no Id b issued till three, ot re tr4.` tnat COUI€1 , 1 1 : wo . n e There were two °I. tq t ao, Ytt. l l l in the buree who gi l en. h d absolutely nothing t()%,„ e applicants au had elled to return into In I ", 1, ", we.re comp because ms pets 0 ' nun cessarily hurrtheir departure, y strangers 1:18 ott duty thought proper.to annoy i and neglect the orders of their chief. The — authorities may rest assured that such conduct cannot be concealed, and that it will have its .due effect in preventing their best customers, the English, from visiting the place. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. YORK RACES. _ The Stewards have given notice that no horse will be allowed to start for any stake at York, in the present year, withou( his mouth being examined (if required) by one or more veterinary surgeons, to be appointed by the Stewards. If an objection to a horse's age shall not be made until after the races the Stewards will insist upon a similar examina tion; and if the - owner or trainer of any horse which has come in first shall refuse to allow the examination, such horse shall not be considered the winner, but the stake shall be given to the first horse in the race which is duly qua lified. • _ _ _ _ The Marquis of Exeter has' accepted the office of Steward of the Jockey Club, in the place ,of Thomas- Thornhill, Esq , deceased. INTELLIGENCE EXTRA. • Handicap for the Goodwood Stakes. Corranna, 5 yrs, 9st 71b-Una, 6 yrs, 9st 21b-St. Lawrence, aged, 9st-The Squire, 6 yrs, Bst 131b-Prizefighter, 4 yrs, Bst•l2lb-Aristotle, 5 yrs, Bst 111b-Knight of the Whistle, 6 yrs, Bst 101b-Vitellius, 4 yrs, Bst 91b-Eboracum,s yrs, Bst 61b-Lothario, 4 yrs, Bst 61b-Pompey, 4 yrs, Bst 61b- Setniseria„4 yrs, Bst 61b-Venus, 4 yrs, Bst 61b-Fireaway, 5 yrs, Bst 51b-Golden Rule, 5 yrs, Bst 51b-John-o'-Gaunt, 6 yrs, Bst 41b-Morpeth, 6 yrs, Bst 21b-Ben-y-Ghlo, 4 yrs, Bst '2lb-Lucy Banks, 5 yrs, List lib-Whistle Binkie, 5 yrs, Bst-Johnny, aged, Bst-Cattonite, 5 yrs, Bst-Trueboy, 4 yrs, BSt-Parthian 4 yrs, Bst-- Scalteen, 5 yrs, Bst- Bramble, 4 yrs, Bst-2-Gaper, 4 yrs, 7st 131b-The Ara, 4 yrs, 7st 131b-The Princess of Wales, 5 yrs, 7st 131 b -Nat, 4 yrs, 7st 131 b-A British Yeoman, 4 yrs, 75t.1311),-General Pollock, 4 vrs, 7st 111b--Bellissima, aged, 7st; 111b-Belcceur, 5 yrs, 7st:lolb-Arlgtides, 5 yrs, 7st tOlb -Merry - Andrew, 4 yrs, ist lOW-Orion, 4 yrs, 7st 91b- Daddy Longlegs, 5 yrs, 7st 91b-Robinson, aged, 7st 81b- Queen of Tyne, 5 yrs, 7st 81b-Foxberry, 5 yrs. 7st 71b hekpocket, 4 yrs, 7st 71b- s ßochester, .yrs, 7st 71b-Mania, 4 yrs, ist -71b-Ajax, 6 yrs, ist 711:-Mulev Moloch colt, 4 yrs, 7st 71b-The Poacher, 5 yrs, 7st 71b-Arcanus, 5 yrs, 7st 51b-The O'Neill, 4 yrs, 7st 51b-Priscilla Tomboy, Syr, 7st-41b-Poor Soldier,4 7st, 41b-Palladium, 5 yrs, 7st 21b-Dr. Allen, 5 yrs, 7st 21b-Pharaoh, 4 yrs, 7st 21b- The Currier, aged, ist-Discount, 6 yrs, 7st-Tam burini, aged, Est 1311y-Ilroken Down, aged, Est 131 - Curcomb, aged, fist 131b-Nhat, 4 yrs, Est 121 b -Naworth, aged, Est 101 b 7- Canton, 4 yrs, Est 101b-Ithuriel, 3 yrs, Est 101b-Gunter, 5 yrs, Est 91b 'Qnebec, 4 yrs, Est 91b-Elegance filly, 4 yrs, Est 91b-Ely slum, 4 yrs, Est 91b-Tlie Deiil-amott 7 the-Tailors, 3 yrs, 6st 91b-Auld Lang Syne, 4 ..yrs, Est 81b-Messalina, 4 yrs, 6st 81b-Humility, 6 yrs, Est 71bPoussin, 4 yrs, Est 71b- Jamie Falshaw, 4 yrs, 6st 51b-Red Deer, 3 yrs, 6st 51b- Little John, 3 yrs, 6st 41b-Rouland, 4 yrs, Est 31b-Maria Diaz, 4 yrs, 6st 31b-f by Pincher, by Rowton, 4 yrs, 6st 31b -Franchise, 5 yrs; Est-The Best-of-Three, 3 yrs, 6st-Wel beck, 3 yrs, 6st-Nylgbau, 4 yrs, 6st-Venatrix, - 4 yrs, 6st- Pastoral, 3 yra, 6st-Dr. Wood;4s7s, 6st-ch c by Hornsea, 3 yrs, 6st-Ashtead Pet, 3 yrs,6st-} ox, 4yrs, sst 121b-The Dog Billy, 3 yrs, sst 1214.--Brunel,. 3 yrs, sst Mb-Milton, 3 yrs, sst 101b-Gretna, 4 yrs, sst 101b-Subduer, 4 yrs, s st 101 b-! ,Glendower, 4 yrs, sst 101b-Pride of Kildare, 3 yrs, sst 101 b 7 -Young Lochinvar, 4 yrs, sst 91b-Murton Lordship, 4 • yrs, sst 81b-Tarquin, yrs, sst•Blb-Donnybrook,. 4 yrs, s st 711-"Voltri, 4 3 yrs, Sat 71b-Seaport; 3 yrs, sst 71b-Dales - Man, 3 yrs; sst 51b-Illustration, 4 yrs, sst 41b-Saddle Bow, 3 yrs, sst 41b- Black Gentleman, 4 yrs, sat 4 lb-Delightful Colt, 3 yrs, sst 21b- , Claude Frolic, 3 yrs, sst-Alger.non, 3 vrs, sst-Strathspey, 3' yrs, sst-Croton Oil,' 3 yrs, sst- Purity filly, 3 yrs, 4st 131b-Odessa colt, 3 yrs, 4st 121 - Best Bower, 3 yrs, 4st 51b-AdVice, 3 yrs, 4st 41b-Lufra, 3 'yrs, Miss Julia colt, and the Nininka colt have paid forfeit. To declare on er before Tuesday next, - the 18th instant. HAMPTON BACES.—WEDN'Estaw. Entry for the Stewards' Plate of 501., ' MoUstache; yrs—ch . c by Clearwell, out of Nininka, 3 yrs—f by Velocipede, out - of Miss Wilfred, 3 yrs—Nat, 4 yrs —Queen of the.Gipsies, 4 yriLLPickpocket, 4 yrs—Rowland, 4 yrs—Dalesman, 3 yrs, ' .The . Strawberry Hill Stakes of 3 sows. each; and, 25 added. Paradise, aged—Grasshopper, aged—Sister to Pompey, 3 yrs—Mountain Dew; 3 yrs—Little Western, aged—Muspelus, :3 yrs Conjugation, 5 yrs—Bangtail colt, 4 yrs—Molly Mogg, 3 yrs—Romulus, 4 yrs. • • • 1111:11 . SDAY. • • • Her Majesty's Plate of 100 Guineas. Blackdrop, 4 yts—lsleworth, 5 yrs--Misdeal, 5 yrs—Ni-- ninka colt, 3 yrs—Patchwork, ,5 'yrs—Nat, 4 yrs—Pick pocket, 4 yrs—Mosque, 6 yrs—Rowland, 4 yrs—Dalesman, 3 yrs—The Detil-among-tlie-Tailors, 3 yrs—Lufra, 3 yrs. The Hurst Cup of 401., &c. Isleworth, 5 yrs—Portumnus, 4 yrs—Mountain Dew, 3 yrs —Crocus, 4 yrs—Chummy, 5 yrs—Deuce-Ace, 3 yrs—Nubia, 3 yrs—Windsor, 6 yrs—Miss „ Wilfred filly, 3 yrs—Black Duchess, 4 yrs. ..... . NEWMARKET. 1844. FIRST OCTOBER MEETING. Mr. Ford's Sir Diggory Diddle, 3 yrs; Bst, agst Mr. E. Walker's black cob horse (half bred), 6 yrs, 7st. T, M. 34. 1543 h ft. - . The match between Minotaur and Wee Pet, for Monday in the Second October Meeting, is off by consent. SECOND OCTOBER MEETING, 1846. WEDNESDAY. Sweepstakes of 200 sovs. each, ft, for fillies, Bst 71b. each. C. Duke of Bedford's fby Gladiator, out of Misnomer—Lord Exeter's fby Hetman Platoff, ont of Arnina—Mr. Payne's f by Camel, out of Vat—Duke of Rutland's f b y Gladiator or 'lle Doctor, but of Flambeau's dam. ASCOT HEATH7IB47. LAST DAY.--Mr. Phillimore's c by Sir Hercules, out of Adeline, Bst 71b, agst Sir W.,W. Wynn's f by Touchstone, out of Semisarius, Bst 41b. Old Mile. 100, 11 ft. • THE THAMES YACHT CLUB. The second match for the season came off on Monday be tween the yachts of this Club. • It was for : the Grand Chal lenge Cup, which last year was won by the owner of the Enigma, Mr. J. Wilkinson, but which, to become the pro perty of any competitor in. perpetuity, must be won at two matches in succession.. Yesterday the yachts entered to sail for this prize were six In number. As usual, the steamer conveyed the company invited to attend the match, from the Old Shades Pier, at ten o'clock, to Greenwich, where the yachts were at their moorings. Commodore Harrison did the honours to the ladies and•geetlemen on board with his accustomed politeness, and the band of Mr.. Adams was in attendance to increase the pleasures of the trip with their musical performances. There was, moreover, a large stock of provisions on board, under an able and experienced ca terer; so that the visitor had nothing to complain of in the way of a hearty welcome and good cheer. The steamer came off Greenwich at half-past ten o'clock ; but, in order to catch the tide on the return, the start did not take place till nearly twelve o'clock. The match was from Greenwich to Coal house-point, about two miles below Gravesend, and back to Greenwich. The wind was blowing fresh from the west when the signal to start was given by firing a gun from the steamer Containing the Commodore and his party. The vessels were placed-thus 1. Mystery, Lord A. Paget, 25 tons. , 2. Exquisite, Mr. C. It. Tatham, 15 tons, 3. Gazelle, Mr. T. Rutherford, 25 tons. • 4 Enigma, -Mr. J. Wilkinson, 25 tons.. 6. Blue Bell, Mr. J. Chandless, 25 tons. • 6. Gnome, Captain Meeson,,2s tons. At starting. the nome took the-lead, the Blue Bell was second, the Mystery third, the Gazelle fourth, the Enigma fifth, and the Exquisite last. At Half-way House the wind freshened;. but the Gnome still led, and the pace was very good. The Gazelle, at this point ; was the second boat, the Mystery third, the Exquisite fourth, the,Blue Bell fifth, and the Enigma.sixth ; but -at Erith the Enigma vies close ;upon the Gnome, and became the second boat, the Gazelle being third, the Mystery fourth, the Blue Bell fifth,.and the Ex quisite sixth,.and in this manner the match proceeded with •little difference, until off Purfieet, when the Blue Bell.becatne the third boat, and the Gazelle fifth. At' Erith an accident happene I to the Gazelle, her topmast gave way, and She was, in a manner, crippled. At Gravesend the Enigma be came the leading boat, and the Gnome was behind; and the fiagboat at Coalhouse point was rounded in the following . . -manner, by the . Enigma at 24 minutes to 3 o'-clock . Gnome Blue Bell ... at 21 minutes to 3 o'clock Mystery - minutes t 0.3 .'clock • • , Exquisite at 20 minutes to 3 e?clocic Gazelle It will be seen from this that the match was well contested. On the return off Tilbury Tort the.Enignia still kept the lead, but the Mystery was close upon "her, and at Gravesend the match stood • thus ;-1, Mystery; 2, Blue Bell; -3, EnigMa. It was now tolerably plain that the Enigma would'not prove the winner, unless some untoward- chance should change the disposition of, events.: No change did take place in the rela tive positions and places of the yachts, and the match was concluded in this manner—the Mystery first; at two minutes to six o'clock; the Blue Bell within half a minute after her; and the rest of the boats in a very few minutes after. The match; puts the challenge cup into the hands of Lord A. Pa get for a twelvemonth, when it must be again sailed for; and it also proves the inferiority of iron boats to wood. At the conclusion of the match Commodore Harrison presented the cup to Lord A.-Paget in the usual inannei. The. steamer then took her departure for London amidst the cheers of the multitude assembled. - • • • The Duke . of Devonshire honoured the-German dwarfs, at the Egyptian Hall; with a visit, yesterday, and appeared much gratified.. GRAYS JUNE 11.—Marcus William Mery- • Weather. Turner,. Esq., was this day called.to the degree of Barrister-at-Law, by the Honourable' Society of Gray's Inns • BETHLEHEM HOSPITAL AND' TU E HOUSE ; OP OC CUPATION BELONGING TO 1311IDEWELL • HOSPITAL.—HIS Majesty the King of :Saiony, accompanied by his suite and the Earl of Morton, visited these • establishments yesterday morning. Sir ; Peter Laurie, the President, Mr. Ralph Price, the Treasurer, and several members of the Committee of Governors, , attended upon-the occa sion. His Majesty, 'during his visit;' made "Many in quiries respecting the management of these Royal Ilea • pitals. The necessary details were explained' tohim the resident officers, Mr. Hunter. and Mr. NithollS. Ills Majesty appeared' to be much. pleased; on noticing .the 'absence of all - restraint iniOngst - the patients Bethle hart "Hospital, and at seeing so matte of them eteployed, both inside and outside the galleries, and acting as ra tional beings.: His Majesty ; expr;essed great astonish ment atbeinginformed that persons thus emplOyed, and , to,aWappearance responsible for their acts, were,'luna tics, and.hadeclared that,'*ith such evidence before his eyes, he had no doubt -of the extraordinary - efficacy of `the systetn _adopted for the cure of the-numerous pa tients. Ills Majesty. Aceepted the various books contain ing the history of the ancient foundation of the two hos pitals, the rules and regulations of their government, and the plans of the several buildings, aruj...also the re port published hy..the Governors at Christmas last. The drawings and plans:of the large additional .building now being erected at Bethlehem Hospital for convalescent wards for the patients, &c. were exhibited to him. His Majesty expressed great satisfaction with the ar rangements at.. the House of Occupation, and the mea d sures used for the reformation and employment of the in ' mates. " Before he left Bethlehem Hospital, the King inserted-the falowing record in ilie,visitota' book I haveinsPected -this -noble institution with much interest, • and Nandi eve rything in. perfect ortier;." • FIR IN4 HAMPSTEAD-HEATH.—Between seven and eight, o'cloCk on - Sunday evening the neighbourhood of Ramp ; stead was' much disturbed, in consequence of a report that Hampsteatl,beath .had been set on fire. This statement proved true, and on a body of the S division of police, from . the station in Heath .. .street, arriving on the heath, they dis . covered the furze near the Spaniards; avern, and the Earl .of Mansfield's, in flames, to the extent of between thirty and forty yards, and it yip with considerable difficulty - it was eX.• tinguished. I I*E Sif N N 1.1 IMPEItIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 11. • Their Lordships assembled at Five o'Clock.-- The Bishop, of SALISBURY presented- petitions against the union of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. Similar petitions were presented by the Earl of Gal loway, the Earl of Devon, and the Bishop of Exeter. The Bishop of EXETER postponed from Thursday to Friday the second reading of the Brothels Suppres- Sion SANATORY CONDITION OF THE POOR. The Marquis of NORNIANBY rose to ask when the report respecting the sanatory condition of the poor would be ready for presentation, and also whe:her the report would contain any recommendation of a plan to remedy the evils which were'now complained of. It was absolutely necessary that some step should be taken to meet the existing evils ; for such was the con dition of the poor at 'present, that annually as many as 50,000 persons died of fever, arising from the condition of their dwellings. It appeared from the evid,•nce of Mr. Lewis, a minister of a parish•in Dundee, that the an nual cost to that town, in consequence of the preva'ence of fever arising from the condition of the poor, was 25,0001. The subject demanded the greatest consideration of Par liament. The information that was necessary alight have been acquired in a quarter of the time that the Go vernment had taken. He now wished to ask when the report would be presented to Parliament, whether any remedial measure would be proposed, and whether the Metropolitan Buildings Act would be carried forward this session ? • The Duke of BUCCLEUCH was sensible that there were a great may evirs in the old and the continued modes of building new towns, but there was a great diffi culty in finding out what the remedies might be. A Bill had been brought in for the improvement of the town of Leeds, but it fell a dead letter in their Lordships' House. The papers which the Noble Marquis wished to have, could not be presented within a few days, and lie did not think it was possible in this session to introduce such a measure. The Marquis of NORMANBY heard the statement of his Noble Friend with extreme regret. He had ex peted that the case of Leeds would have formed the foundation of a Government measure. He could Only repeat that he thought that a very great deal of time had been wasted in considering that subject ; and he thought, even with the Noble Duke's explaaation, that more might have been done, with efficient local manage ment, in the case he had cited. SEES OF BANGOR AND .ST. ASAPIL Earl :POWIS, after presenting several petitions against the union of the sees of Bangor and St. Asaph, said that he never, on any occasion, approached a question with such great anxiety as he did on that occasion, for he felt much on the subject-matter of the petitions he had just presented. On this important Church question he was sorry to find himself opposed to a Noble Lord 'and a Right Rev. Prelate, whose weight and character in their Lordships' House made it difficult for him singly to bring that subject under their notice. It little became him to waste their Lordships' time by making any.apology for thus ocupying a little of their attention, and he would therefore as briefly and as satisfac torily as possible, hoping, at the same time, that theirLord hips would, extend to him that favour which he had always experienced. He would follow up the petitions he bad presented by reading a letter he had received from an individual intimately conversant with the matter before them.—(His Lordship then read the letter, which supported the prayer of the petitions.) He thought they ought to listen to the remonstrances of the people of North Wales against the union .of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor, showing that shortly atter the union of the sees of Sodor and Man and Carlisle, the Feople who were affected by it resisted it, and the Act for the union of those sees was, in consequence, repealed. He thought the labour far too great for one Bishop. They must consider that in that case the Reverend Pre. late's. sphere of action must be over six of the most• mountainous countries in North Wales. The Noble Earl then read portions of a speech made by a Right Reverend Prelate on the occasion of the union of two spiritual sees in Ireland, and on that occasion it was pro mnlgated that, according to ecclesiastical law and usage, such union could only take place ex necessitotis causa. One thing was clear that the union now contemplated would prove vastly injurious. It would throw a greater degree of labour on the Bishop of Gloucester and Bris tol, by adding to his already laborious duties. One great reason for the disunion of thess two sees of St. Asaph and Bangor was, that the population. in those dioceses was increasing at a very rapid rate. The in habitants of the northern districts of Wales had in creased 149,000 in forty years. It was true that the activity of the Welsh clergy enabled them to do a good deal, but it was impossible that that activity could keep pace with the religions wants of the pt ople in these par ticular districts. Having stated the case so far, he would leave it in their Lordships' hands. He had brought it forward at the request of the people of Wales, being im pressed with the great importance of the question ; for he believed it to be one well worthy of their Lordships' earnest and deepest consideration. He should, there fore, move the second reading of the Bill. The Duke of WELLINGTON said he still felt it to be his duty to oppose the motion of his Noble Friend. The motion was for the second reading of a Bill to re peal an Act which was passed eight years ago, and the matters which the Noble Earl had brought under the consideration of their Lordships ought to have been urged when the Bill itself, which united the two sees, was under the consideration of Parliament. 'He (the Duke of Wellington) would briefly call to their Lord ships' recollection the objects of the Bill, which the Noble Earl sought to repeal. Early in the year 1835 a Commission was appointed for the purpose of revising the state of the revenues and patronage of the Church, the expenses of the dioceses, and all those circumstances which would have, by any alteration, the effect of' being beneficial to the country. In March, 1835, the report was made, and that report was the one which proposed the union of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. This report when it was made was no secret, it was laid on the tables of both Houses of Parliament, and was no- torious to everybody. The matter was then fully dis• cussed, and the country was made well acquainted with the contents of that report. When that report was con sidered by Parliament both the Bishops of Bangor and St. Asaph were present. The Bishop of BANGOR—Certainly not. The Duke of WELLINGTON—They were not pre sent when the measure was passed, but they were pre sent when the report recommending the union of these sees was considered. The Bill itself was generally sup• ported in that House, and passed without opposition in the month of August, 1836. Under this Bill, her Ma . jesty in Council was authorised to carry into effect the recommendations contained in the report of the Commis sion of 1835, and accordingly, under the powers of that Bill, directions were given by the then Government for carrying into effect the measures recommended in those reports. Yet, now his Noble Friend came down with a Bill to repeal that part of the original Act which was, in fact, the foundation of all the measures which were. re. commended by the Commission of 1835. His Noble Friend must recollect that the recommendations of the Commis sion of 1835 applied to other ecclesiastical matters besides the union of the two sees of St. Asaph and Bangor, as, for instance, the appointment of a Bishop of Ripon, and the creation of other bishoprics. Should the Noble Earl's Bill be carried, an organic change would be made in the constitution of that House. An augmentation of the Members of the Right Rev. Bench would be made, and he would remind their Lordships that, although that augmentation was proposed, no provision was made for them by his Noble Friend. These were points which he thought his Noble Friend had not sufficiently considered. He (the Duke of Wellington) should, therefore, oppose the second reading of this Bill, and move that it be read that day six months. The Bishop of BANGOR said he was sorry to be compelled to oppose the views which were taken by her Majesty's Government on this subject. He denied that this Bill would affect the general principle of the Act of 1836. • His Noble Friend merely called for a repeal of a portion of that Act, and he did not interfere in any way whatever with the other parts of the measure. He had long hoped to see the Right Hon. Gentleman at the head of the Government himself bring forward a measure similar to the present one. lie would remind their Lordships that the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor were far more ancient -than the see of Canterbury itselC The Archbishop of CANTERBURY had listened with great attention to the speech of his Right Rev. Friend; and, although he believed that there was a strong feeling in favour of the motion of his Noble Friend (Earl Powis) in the principality of \Vales, both with the clergy and the people, yet he thought the sub ject had not received that attention which it merited from either party. He had heard that the injury done to North Wales by this union was strongly spoken ot; and he thought that there had been,' he would say, an unfair use made of the measure. With regard to the eaFpediency of creating a new Bishop, he did not see the necessity tor doing so. He knew, however, that in this he was opposed to many of his Rev. Brethren. Ile had, however, given the subject his undivided attention, and he felt himself called on to oppose the measure of his Noble Friend. The Bishop of ST. DAVID'S felt himself compelled. to say something'; but he would not weary the House. with any lengthened arguments upon the subject; us those were ably discussed by others more able than himself. He thought, hovvever, there were some arguments which had nOt'been advanced, or had been so little brought forward, that they might be thought comparativelynew ; and he thought also that there were elements udvanced which must have been really disriTarded. It was his firm belief that what he had to say was somewhat on the. subject before their Lordship's House, and ha' therefore prayed their earnest attention to it. He reminded. their Lordships of the evils under which Wales was labouring in the want of the means of tffi cient education. This evil was particularly felt in South Wales. It was true that a college had lately been esta blished, but the endowments were of the most scanty description. There was a grant from Government for. the maintenance of that college, but in its amount it did not equal one-tenth of the grant which was annually made to the College of Maynooth. This want of the. means of adequate education in Wales was a subject which the Government would do well to take into their serious consideration. Now, with respect to the question immediately before the House, he would ask, where was the' amalgamation of bishoprics to stop ? They must recollect that their population was vastly increasing, and if a bishopric of Leeds should be sought to be established; he would ask, whether they would unite the bishoprics of St. David's and Landaff to ac complish that object ? If this union of the two sees of St. Asaph and Bangor were to be continued, where, he would again ask, were they to stop? Be looked upon the union of the bishoprics of St. Asaph and Bangor, as a degradation of the Church, and one a hich could only have arisen out of an oversight, and in con sequence of great ignorance on the part of its promoters, of the Principality of - Wales. The Bishop of LINCOLN was understood to sup N, A 4 A: -NI port the union of the sees of St. 'Asap and Bangor, as the 'only'nleans of establishing 'a bishopric of Man chester. The Earl of WINCIIILSEA said that it was with the deepest - regret that he was obliged to oppose those . for whom•he entertained the highest respect ;• bia, at the same time;he never rose with More satisfaction to oppose any measure than he did to oppose that proposed by-the Noble Lord. It had been urged that it would be a vast inconvenience for the poor clergymen of Wales to com municate, with itdistant Bishop if the measure before them were not agreed to, - but-it would infer Ito great in convenience for poor clergymen to go thirty, or forty, or fifty miles, even if two bishops were up - p , inted.•. Ile thought the object of his Noble Friend was merely con fined to the erection of the two bi-hoprics. Ile would not trouble the House with any further remarks, but he would protest against - the reading of his Noble Friend's Bill. • The Bishop of LONDON said that he wad opposed to the Bill in iti present state. Lord VIVIAN' said that he begged to state a Let to their Lordships, namely, that the people of the Prin cipality of Wa!es cared very little iti,out the juneture oz the sees. He wished to reinf,ve the impression from their Lordship,' minds that the population generally did so. Theßishop of EXETER supported the Bill. He would not care for a Seat in that House, if he had to hold it against the feeling of the country. lie for one would be glad to retire frbm that House, if the people of the coun try. should entertain an opiniOn that the Bishops ought not-to have a seat in that House; but he believed that the presence of the Bishops had a very beneficial influ ence on their Lordships' deliberations. IVith resvect to the question. before the House, he feared that the Noble Earl (Pawls) would be unsuccessful in his motion, but he trusted that the Noble Earl, if-defeated, would renew his. motion from year to year until at last he succeeded in extracting this me:Asure from the Government. The Duke of WELLINGTox ---- ardtKeA;Cl;bishop of CANTERBURY briefly explained. The Bishop of SALISBURY said, that having had the duties of two bishoprics thrown upon' him, he must say that his experience had led him to form the opinion that a union of two sees could give satisfaction to no man. Of all the petitions t hat crowded their Lordships' table, was there one which was.in opposition to the' Bill introduced by his Noble Friend? It was not without pain that he and other Reverend Prelates were compelled to oppose him whom they were accustomed to support. But they had a duty to perform, and that duty must be done to themselves and the country. Would the country be „gratified to see the respousible advisers of the Crown wronging that higher section, who were the best guarantees for the fidelity of the veople? Lord HARROWBY supported the Bill. Their Lordships then divided, when there.appeared— . For the motion. Against it 37 Majority Several Bills were then forwarde a stage, and the House Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 11. The SPEAKER took the chair at the usual hour. HASTINGS RAILWAY. Mr..CURTEIS moved that the Soiith-Eastern and Hastings Railway Bill be recommit d. to the former Committee to whom the same was referred, and that it be an instruction to such Committee, that they hare power, it they think fit, to rescind their resolution on the preamble of the said Bill, and to consider the ex pediency of allowirg the same to pas', for the purpose of authorising the making of a railway frdra the South- Eastern Rairway to Rye only. Mr. VILLIERS STUART thought it inexpedient to re-open the question which had been decided by the Committee. Mr. WHITS, as Chairman of the Committee, was ready again to go into the question if the House should think fit. Mr. EsTcotißT thought the House could not en tertain the question in its present shupe. To attain the object which the Hon. Gentleman had in view, the Com pany must give fresh notices, as for a new Bill. \lr. GLADSTONE trusted that after what had been stated by the Hon. Member for Oxford, the Hon. Mem ber would not press it to a division. Ile thought the proceedings. were calculated to destroy all confidence in the - proceedings of the house. After some discussion, Dir. oURTEIS withdraw his motion. Petitions were presented by various MenaLers for and against the Dit:senters' Chapels Bill, and aga i nst t h e union of the sees of Bangor and St. Asaph. Sir ROBERT INGLIS' presented several petitions against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. Mr. ROSS presented petitions from certain places in the county of Down, in favour of the Dissenters' Chapels Bid. The report of the Manchester Bonding Warehouses Bill was furthertaken 'into consideration, pro forma only. NESS FISHERIES BILL. Mr. BAILLIE moved the third reading of the Ness Fisheries Bill. Mr. WALLACE objected to the House, proceeding any further with the Bill, and contended that a general measure was the only legitimate way of legislating in such matters. The attempt which which was now made to appropriate th►s public fishery to private purposes,, had been unsuccessful on a former occasion, and would, he trusted, be so now. In his (Mr.. Wallace's) opinion the fisheries of England were tuitional property, and con sidering that the present was an at tempt to appropriate such property to private and pers..nal purposes, he begged to move that the Bill be re..d a third time that day six months." Mr. MACKENZIB seconded the amendment. He, was afraid this Bill was but the commencement of a system for applying the same principle to other rivers. . Mr. P. M. STEWART hoped the Hon. Member for Inverness would persist in asking the Howe to carry this Bill. The river Ness was ,a pe culiar river, and this Bill men ly gave power that the fish might be taken when they were best in quality and most abundant. Ile could not, therefore, see what the public grounds were on which his Hon. Friend opposed it. It was not denied that under the present law as applicable to the river Ness, the fish of it were out of season. . Mr. B.A.ILLIE thought the . objection to the Bill was altogether a technical one, and he misted, therefore; that the House would unanimously support it. Mr. H. DRUMMOND oppos( d the Bill. He believed it would be both for the general interest, and the interest of the parties, that it should be thrown out. Mr. ELLICE, jun., said the Bill was founded on the Annan Fishery Bill, passed about three years aw b o. Every. proprietor on the N ess h a d g i ven hi s consent to the Bill. Mr. GLADSTONE opposed the Bill. After a few observation s from Mr. WARBURTON and Mr. LIDDELL, strangers Were ordered to withdraw. The House then divided, when the numbers were— For the third reading. Against it • Majority ......... —9 The Bill was then read a third time and passed. NOTICES OF MOTIONS. 'Mr. CHRISTIE gave notice of a motion for the 9th of July on the subject of the Danish claims. Mr. HUME postponed his motion on the subject of the Royal Academy, until the 9th of July. Mr. WYSE gave notice that, on the 9th of July, he should submit a motion to the House on the subject of the University of Dublin and the College of Maynooth. Dr. BOWRING postponed till Tuesday next his am tion on the present mode of keeping the public acconotS. The same HON. GENTLEMAN then repeated the ques tion which he had put last evening to the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies, on the subject of an asserted recent occurrence at the island of. St. Helena. I:he Hop. Gentleman read a very long statement from a newspaper, but in so indi s ti nct a t on e as to be almost• wholly inaudible in the gallery. As far as we could catch his meaning, 'how ever ; we un d e r s tood the lion. Gentleman to say that two prizes crowded with. Africans had arrived at St. Helena—that in both the that the two cargoes w e r e corn ves sels dysentery w as rag i ng to an a l arm ing extent ; and_ in this state sent o n t o. t h e C a p e ; and that during pressed into one vessel, the voyage there had been a frightful loss of life amongst the captured negroes. Lord STANLEY said he was sorry, to be obliged to allow that to a certain extent the statement just read by the Hon. Gentleman was torrent, for there had been a considerable mortality amongst the-. Africans, though not to the number stated. Out of 337 of these slaves, eighteen only died on the voyage, fr,,in St. Helena to the Cape, and twenty after .. reaching that place. He thought •that it would be. right to state to the House the precise circumstances of the case. , - A great number of slave vessels were brought into St. He!ena, but great complaints were made of the expense occasioned .by this, when there - was no accom modation or• means of employment for the negroes when they arrived.. In consequence of this, in structions were given, that vessels should be taken to Sierra Leone, or the -Cape; or some port 'where employment could be afforded the negroes when they arrived, It appeared, from the - stateMent of the -Governor of St.. Helena, that : the Arrow put in to the island in December, 1843, for the purpose of get ting water; and the vessel having been supplied with Water, she was sent to the Cape. The inst ruc tionsissued e m r geeannes of empl o y m e n t f or ), and thi s arose i n ' on this subject were, that all vessels should proceed to the Cape or Sierra Leone , and should not go to St. consequence Helena, except o the negroes on the island. , . - • . .BOWHING expressed a hope that an as yl um Would' be erected to meetcase s of s uch emergency as this. • Lord PALMERSTON wished. toknow froin . the Noble in there cases es beingr emergency, n m o Lord whether the Governor confirmed the statement which a as published as to the condition the negroes were in when they arrived: -Lord STANLEY said the statement of the , Goverrior was that the vessel had put in to get water. He did not say that the- crew were in so sickly a condition as to pre - vent their proceeding from the island. PRESBYTERIAN MARRIAGES BILL. In answer to a question from Mr. BOUVERIE, re specting the Presbyterian Marriages BA • Sir J.-GRAHAM said that the Bill was now in pro gress through' the House of Lords : and he had a com , munleation, from the Lord Chancellor to.the effect, that the Bill would shortly arrive in this House. Mr..GROGAN gave notice of his intention to bring in a Bill to regulate the payment of Coroners in Ireland. ' -' IRISH REGISTRATION BILL. Mr. T. I}UNCOMBE said the Government had last night promised some information on the subject of the Irish Registration Bill.—(Bear, hear.) Il e b egge d now to ask when it was intended to bring on the second read ing of the Irish. Registration Bill? • Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he was empowered to state to the Hon. Gentleman, . that her Majesty's Go vernment proposed to fix the second reading of the Irish Registration 'Bill for Monday, the Ist of .July. Upon that day the ,Government would, if the. 'progress of other Bills permitted, take ti e use of the House on the second reading of that Bill. It was also their inten- N c;JU.ITE If 2, iikm to take.: ti4e vu the Dissenters'_ Chapels Bill on Mand.i.y Uext, and on Thursday se'nnight the Committee tm the Po.‘r-laws. Mr. \l'l SE in . quirt-d when the Government intended to-proCee:l with the Irish Municipal Bill: Sir J. G IZA II AM said shortly after the second read ing (d . the Iri h !;... - iitration Bill. Mr. 1:01!Til s:iid that as the Right Honour :11;1k; 6 had liSed the discussion of the poor law fiir Thursday ~ - 'might, he Legged to give notice that he shoo' I not, a :*e ha:lintended, move for . leave to bring in a Lill on that aohjoet, but merely move a resolution, Ks aii an e it,th t to- the.• rikaion of the 'Right lion. Gentleman. ANATOMY ACT. The TioS:. "M;.::iraf.if then . presented several petitions, p. flying for tl,e lippointment of a : Committee to inquire into the ope;orion. of the: Anatomy Act. Petitions to,f he same effect were, likewise presented by Mr. Muntz. Mr. Fitzstephen French, Mr. Sharman . Cruwfiira, anal M r..linrd v. , „ . -Mr. PETER lIORTHWICK was sensible of the great interest y% h'eh was attached to thelnotion of which the Hun. 7.iem her 64. Sheffie'd had given notice, and he would sle:w 1.0,,v tutu+ he 'participated in that feeling by being as brief as possible in - the obscrva thins with which he intended to preface his 'notion. lie brought forward this motion both on public snit private grounds.. He would at once admit that it was necessary for medical science that anatomical in, estigatiaris should, take place—that was a point which he would not dispute., in the year 1832 the present Anat my Act had been introduced for the purpose of relieving, 1111;316nd from the perils of the odious system by which anati , laical schools were supplied with subjects, and which Caeed in danger not only the graves of the dead, but the safety of the living. The Hon. Gentle man's plan hail succeeded, and he tendered to him his t h an k s f u r wl; at he had done ; but the measure, as it at pres. nt stove':, contained within itself the seeds of the resurrection of the horrid traffic. Although the Bill made it unlaw till for certain persons to possess bodies for anatomical pin poses, it had not provided against the sale of dead bodie-, nor against the illegal possession of _parts of babes. 'lie consequence had been, that a traffic in bodies had fait( a place in some of the schools, to the deiriint nt of oilers. This was an abuse that re quired correction. He also took exception against one of the prinetp:es on which the Bill was founded. As the law stud at present, when a person died without any friend] to ctsini his body, it was given up for dissection, on the prinetple that he owed a debt to the public for his Maintenance. He protested against the doctrine. Society owed to every person the debt of protection, and if there was on person more than another who was entitled to that prot, etioo, it was the poor man who died without friends. Fie Loic,4-41 that the proposition he had put forward was not founded upon the principles of justice, and upon that gl u on I I.e moved for a Select,Committee. It had been said by the Right - Hon, Secretary for the Home Depart,. cot, when speaking on another and more im ponant subiect, that the agitation which 'had been got up hi connection with it was a noxious agitation. But was it n‘-eessary to have agitation on any subject which it wan desired to bring under the serious consideration of that Rinse? Already much good bad been 'done by the agitation upon the.suhject of anatomy 7 --goOd in very many quarters, and in very many ways. In the year Roberta produced his invention, by which as much could he learnt from two hundred bodies as could lormerly from six hundred. The most eminent practi tioners had borne testimony to the value and.importanee of Mr. I:eheres preparation, and a great desire was ex pressed that it should n o t be - taken to other countries, but that such a protection should be given to the in ventor as would induce - him to retain it in England. It was a,dinitted that Mr. Roberts was deserving of re muneration for his useful invention, and the lion. Mem ber for Kendal himself had asked ,him to name the amount he, thought. would remunerate him ; and Mr. Robe, ts, in reply, stated that he thought 5,0001. would be a lair sum. The most satisfactory testimony was given of Mr. Roberts's process. He could not see hops either the Government or the Hon. Gentleman could oppose his motion; but if 'they had any doubts as to the efficiency of Mr. Roberts's plan, all he wanted was 'a Committee to prove it. Mr. Roberts had given a secret, for which he .ought to. have been compensated, but for which he had , not. The present Bill, he owned, afforded considerable protection, but it did not protect those who were the most helpless and the most deserving of pro tection. In the present state of things, scarcely a year pa , sed that some student's life was not sacrificed in the noxious operation of the dissecting room. By the adop tion of Mr. Roberts's plan those dangers might be re moved. Ile concluded by moving for a Select Com niittee to inquire into the operation of the Anatomy Act. • Mr. HARDY seconded the motion. It was most de sirable and must important that th e f ee li ngs o f th e 'ambler classes, which were so much excited on this point, should be. soothed. thought the conduct of the Government on this measure required. investigation, and he would Ore his most strenuous support to the ap pit:01111-m of the Committee. The question having put, Sir 3 GRAHAM could assure the House that he would address it a ith the_ most studious brevity. Ile thought the proposed inquiry, so far from soothing the pubic fcel]n b ir, would rather irritate it, and on this score Moue it might be avoided. The present Act was most guarded, and strict in its provisions regarding the dispo sal of bodies--the dying wish of a person, of whatever condition, must, in all cases be adhered to, and the most• dis . ant relation of the deceased, if he claimed the body, must not be refused it. If there was, as the Hon Mem lax snit. d. . gross infractions of the present law, the de: lingtients ought to be ptinished, • and would be pun ished, if tie proper means were taken for arraigning them before a legal tribunal. Two Com Missions had b. en app.inted to inquire into the subject, and the re ports iT these CoMmissions, particularly of the latter, the Government were about to act upon. The silence on the sul t iect, which had prevailed since the passing of the resent Act. was the best proof of its success. Regard tog Mr. Roberts, on whose account he believed the pre sent mo:ion was made, he (Sir J. Graham) entirely disputed the success of his plan. It was true it Astley Cooper and Sir Benjamin Brodie had ap proved of ir. in 1836, but he had good reason to believe that Sir Astley changed his opinion on the subject before his death, and Sir Benjamin Brodie he was authorised to say had entirely changed his. Mr. Roberts had ex perimentalised on sixteen subjects in Guy's Hospital, and he was empowered to say that in all these cases he had decidedly tailed. Science must have subjects, and undt r the present system they had them, but there was 'no abuse or desecration. Ile called upon the House strentnaisly to resist the motion. Mr. F. FRENCH said the lion. Baronet's statement h regarding Mr. Roberts was without foundation.. Head not expel imentalised on sixteen, but on four and a half, and on these four and a half he had been eminently successful. The Hon. Member felt bound to support the motion for the Committee, considering that the subject ought to be inquired into. Mr. WAIII3URTON said there bad been no single instance brought forward of the bad working of the Bill, and he shc-uld therefore give it . his support. In his opinion the Hon. Gentleman(Alr.Borthwick) ought to have made careful inquiries before coming down to the House and making the statement he, had done. There was not a tittle of evidence to support any of the charges except one; and therefore be trusted the House would not be induced to take any step which might lead to , the re • seinding of the Anatomy Act, or the buying off of the opposition or the . agitation of any such men as Mr. Roberts. • Alderman COPELAND said he certainly attached some weight to the declarations of the Right Hon. Gen tleman (Sir James Graham), who stated he had insti tut. d inquiry, but to what had fallen from the Hon Gentleman opposite (Mr. Warburton) he could not at tach any importance_ whatever. That Hon. Gentleman should refer to the evidence taken before the Health of "owns' Committee, and then, instead of saying there was only one case of wrong-doing, he would be coin paed toadtnit there. were hundreds, all of which, in his (Alderman Copeland's) opinion, .demanded close and searching int:inky. For these reasons alone he should support the motion for a Committee.- Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he had always•thought that by the rules and usages of that House, no Minister of the crown was allowed to refer to reports which were not upon the table of the House.—(Hear, hear.) The .Right lion. Baronet (Sir J.. Graham) had stated that th o result of the Commission of Inquiry he had insti tut( d wte: the acquittal of Dr. Somerville ; but he (Mr. Duncombe).wislied to know where the report of that' Committee was ? It was not fair or candid in that Right 81,11. Gentleman to come down there, and quote from reorts of which the House had never . been in possessior. Such conduct as that now being pursued by the Government would create . great. indignation in the country, as it was evidently their wish—as this was a medical subject, he might be allowed the word—it was widently their wish to "burke" inquiry —(Laughter.) Ile must say he was sorry the subject had been brought before the lh was, at least, a very delicate if not a dangerous one ; but as it had been so brought, they could only deal with it so as to arrive at the truth or falsehood 4.f the matters stated. This they were bound to do ; and therefore he should feetit his duty to vote for the motion of the lion. Gentleman, the Member for Evesham. • Lord JOHN RUSSELL warned the House of the course it. might determine on with respect to the mea sure. Jt every complaint of the bad working of this Act Were, .as now ch sired, , to. be made the subject of . special inquiry,. the consequence would be the repeal of the law, and the consequent return to those abuses and: those horrible , crimes which some years ago had so shocked the public mind.. One assertion made on this subject h:IS that some parties in a certain workhouse made mot.ey by the' sale of the bodies of the paupers.. NVhy, then, what .were the guardians of that unichr about? 1..4 them be compelled to du their duty by in quirirg irt the case, and, - if true, instantly dismissing the delinquoit party.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped the House ould not consent to'a Committee, but leave such . subj, els to the 'authority of the Right Hon. Gentleman i.pposite - (Sir J. Graham), who, he was sure, had had thcient inquiry made into complaints brought before him.. Ile implored the llouse not to take the perilous step hich the Bon. Gentleman, the Meinber for Eveshami desired it to dn. Geneml JOHNSON thought that a sufficient case bad. bet n made out forinquiry. He saw no reasonable gruund of objection to the granting of a Committee at sll events. Mr. ilowrinvwx having replied, Ti e !louse divided, when there appeared— . • F..r the motion lO Against it .• . 49 Majority against the motion —39 EsTABLISHED CHURCH OF IRELAND. Mr. WARD then rose to bririg forward the motion of wl.i• h he had given notice, respecting the tstablished Cl trch -of Ireland. He said that nobody could feel m , re strongly -than he did the difficulty and re spnsitility which attached to any - 'attempt, under the yrusent circumstances of England and Ireland, to re- 1844. open.the question he was about ao bring under the con sideration of the House that evening ; and strong as were his feelings respecting it—deep as was his convic-, tion that any delay- in dealing with it would only-add mischief . 'to past proCastination—he should shrink from the task of again calling the attention of the House to a subject so largely and ably discussed at the begin ning of the present session, if he saw anything like a hope, however distant and faiiit, that her Majesty's Go vernment were prepared to entertain the principle upon which the setaement of the question must, ultimately depend.—(Cheers.) He did not for a moment suppose that, this question. would or could be advanced by indivi dual efforts; or that the , inveterate feelings or strong pre judices, he would call them, whi c h had plunged them for three hundred years into a'course of vicious legislation. and whiCh still retained such a hold on the-minds of many; would be remelted by individual effort.' 'Oa the contrary, whenever - the time for dealing practically with this question arrived, it would require the best effOrts of the best men of both sides to - remove the obstacles which stood in the way of a settlement. Much fOrbearance, much mutual concession, would be required ; and he believed that men on all sides must follow the opi nion of -Bishop Watson, who, in the debate on the union, said that ''"-they must learn to give up small things to 'secure great things, as tranquillity, con cord, and peace."—(Hoar, hear.) He 'admitted the question was difficult and complicat e d, b u t th a t was no reason why it should not be entertained.—(Hear. hear.) Catholic Emancipation was . difficidt, yet Catholic Eman cipation was carried. Nay, the more difficult and corn plioated the question was, the more indispensible did it becorne that the House should entertain and promote it before it was forced on it by events over which they would have no control—the more incumbent it was to curtail those difficulties and unravel that complication, and to place, if possible, the Irish Church upon a foot ing more consistent with its own professed objects, and the great interests it was intended to promote. With this feeling, if he saw anything like a progressive policy on the part of the Ministers—anything like an. honest determination or desire to grapple with the real difficul ties which the Government of this country had to con tend ' with to regard Catholic Emancipation as Mr. Pitt regarded it, as the first of a great series of measures for the 'amelioration of Ireland, framed on a large and comprehensive spirit and carried out with a vigorous hand—stich a policy as that would have no Warmer.sUpporter than himself. He adopted on this point the words of an Hon. Friend'of his, whom he was sorry not to see then in his place, with whom he often concurred in opinion, though he sat on the other side of the House—the Hon. Member for Weyinouth— , who said, on the first debate, " that his wish was to 'see his Right Honourable Friend at the head of the Government' announce 'his in tention of altering the anomalous position of the 'Protestant Church in Ireland. while he maintained the principle upon which a Church Establishment ought to be maintained in any country for the' purposes of religion, but giving up the doctrine that it was to be looked on as a Protestant stronghold." He (Mr. Ward) adopted.that principle altogether, but he would ask any Gentleman on either side of the House whether the least intention was indicated by Honourable and Learned Gentlemen, either by word or deed, which would warrant hiin in entertaining the belief that such are the sentiments of her Majesty's Govern ment. Was there any good legislation at all in prospect for Ireland ?' Had the Government announced any great change in their policy, : ..any change that might reasonably be expected 7 -had any one thing been said or done. calculated to remove or to Play the just cause of discontent, the just cause of excitement which prevailed in'lreland, and thus bringing brick the alienated feelings of the people of that country to England and this House. —(Hear, hear.) . The only measure .commenced was the Irish Registration Bill, which the Right Hon. Gen tlemanfthe Secretary of State for the Home Department, had announced his intention of proceeding with on the Ist of July, if the state of public business admitted it. The fact, he believed, was, that the Bill bad been every where received with such an universality of condemna tion, that they would never hear of it again. There was also the Bill which the Right Hon. Baronet the First Lord of the Treasury alluded to at the beginning of the session, for further endotvment of the Catholic clergy. He did not know whether that was included in the list of measures to be introduced by the Government in the present session. But there was, in truth, no legislation at all for Ireland since this time . twelvemonths, and if,, passing _from their works to their words, they looked at their declarations as a criterion of what their future conduct was to - be, he found that there never was a time when there was so little of what was good expected, and so much of what was bad anticipated.—(Hear.) They had not only taken up a position which was un tenable, but they had pledged theinselves to maintain it. They had had a series of declarations within the last twelve months, from almost every member of the Mi nistry, offensive to Ireland, discouraging to those who, like himself, wished it well without any direct reference to party objects, and destroying all hope of good to arise from men who had been tying their own hands upon the most important questions which could possibly be brought, before them. His Noble Friend the Secretary of State for the Colonies had declared that he could see no differ ence between a Protestant Establishment and a Pro testant Sovereign ; that in 1.829, when Catholic Eman cipation was carried, there was an implied agreement, which it would be a gross breach of faith in those who carried that measure to depart from. Now he really had not been aware that the present Government was composed entirely of those who carried Catholic Emancipation. (Hear, hear.) If the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Kent had been told, at that period, that he would one day find himself in a Government of' which the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) was a member, he would have been much surprised at such a declaration. Such, howelter, was the first declaration illustrating the,inten tiOns of the Government. In the next place, an Hon. Gentleman, whose opinions on Irish affairs were entitled to considerable weight—and they derived more weight just now from his recent appointment as Secretary to the Treasury—had declared that the Church was a line of separation between parties ; that no Conserva tive statesman could, without' 'dishonour to him self and ruin to hid party, make any other de claration than that he was determined to do all in his power to maintain inviolate and intact the dignity and position of the Established Church. Then came the Right. Hon. Baronet, the Home Secretary, who, while lie spoke of Ireland as the fatal field which had separated him from his former friends; who he could never hope to meet again, except as opponents, in answer to many most moderate and rational suggestions made by his Noble Friend the. Member for the city of London, said— " I reject all these nostrums ; they are all incompatible with that preference which the Protestant• State 'of Eng land, as a fundamental principle, has decided on giving in favour of the Protestant Establishment." " I stand," he added,'" upon the choice made by this country at the Reformation —confirmed at the Revolution sealed by the Act of Settlement--aud ' ratified by the Act of Union. I •hold that preference to be amongst the firmest foundations of our liberty ; I be lieve it to'be the work' of the greatest statesmen, and do, not belieVe it will be overthrown by any Repeal As sociation."—(Hear,hear.) Now, the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government, had had the merit of considerably modifying these declarations. He said, indeed, " If we were now convinced that the social amelioration of Ireland requires an alteration of the law and a departure from the compact which has been made, I for one shoUld not be prepared to maintain that com pact." 'But still he came to the same conclusion, in sub stance, as his colleagues; because he said afterwards, " I bring reason and conviction in aid of compact and authority, and I come to the conclusion that the best course, and the course which, I for one, as far as my humble powers can be exerted, can pursue, is to main tain in its integrity the 'Protestant Church." . Now, these declarations held out very little hope as to the future fate of Ireland, but a still stronger and a still more signal declaration on the same subject had been Made in another place, to which he could not allude more directly than by saying, 'that there were certain organs which took the liberty of imparting.' to them all that passed in the place to which he referred. On the occa sion of the presentation of a petition on the subject of the Irish Church, the Duke of Wellington said, " The Protestant Church has subsisted in Ireland for 300 years. It had been retained there during a system of contests, rebellions, and massacres ; it was part of the compact. made with • Ireland at the time of the union ; it was the foundation on which the. union rested, and yen cannot' depart from it without being guilty of a breach of faith worse than those pecuniary breaches of faith- which have been alluded to on such occa sions." Novi, all these declarations were, in his humble judgment, very uselfss and very impolitic. They irritated but did not convince—they settled nothing; they could not re concile old people to-a system which was indefensible-upon any, principle of natural right. He could not bit help referring to. a memorable occasion, on which a Royal Duke, in alluding to the question of Catholic Emancipation, had made a remarkable declaration. The speech of the Duke of York did more in twenty lines to alienate and exasperate Ireland than .all the treachery and suffering of which he had complained—( Hear, hear.) He said concession to Catholics would be a total change in the fundamental principles of the Constitution and a blow struck at the very root of it—that nobody could be more in clined to toleration than his late Majesty, but there was a great difference between toferation and emancipation. He said that the Coronation Oath stood in the way of concession, from the obligation of which the King could not release himself by any act of his own or be released by act of the Legisla tu re. H e said subscribed to their id .Itehadimbibed er those i Justice after iplesin the m his- earlies tust mature m yo a uth and ree consideration. To those principles be still adhered, and meu twoof his uld existence—somai andntain help hi m God.—( act upto Hear, t ha r. oth e ela ) st i rr a - t declaration, did not, however, stop the course of events, for the Catholic Emancipation Act was carried four years afterwards.:-. the only effect of it was to delay a great and wise measure, and to deprive it of half its grace and utility: There was a - re markable speech of the Right Hon. Baronet, the Secretary oL State, which, at the time of its delivery, made an impression. On the country. When he (Mr. Ward) had - quoted it on a 'former occasion, the Right Hon. Baronet, said' that if the Ca tholics had the same organs, senses, affections, and' passinn as th emse lves, they would never be sati s fi e d if Catholit Emanci pation were carried, to leave an intrusive Church in Ireland', and that the very first use they would . make of that political power, would be to reinstate their own' Church 'yet, within ten years atter the delivery of that speech, the Roman Catho lics were,adroitted to the enjoyment Of political power..: —(Rear. ) He. put it to the Right Hon.. 13arenet, then, how _they could hope to satisfy Ireland without doing that which, 27 years ago, he declared it wouldbe utterly impossible to withhold' if Ca tholic emancipation were carried. New, let hiin recal to the attention of the House w h a t was th e rea l . subject of dispute : be would not weary them with any lengthened statisticaldetails in reference to the revenues of the Irish Church ; it was the less necessary to do so, beeanse his Noble Friend had placed at his disposal all the most recent data which could 'be sup plied by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners. The qiiestion was now brought before them in such a .shape that be believed there would be very little difference of opinion as to the amount of the revenue. Last year his estimate of the avenue of the 4rish Church, which was exceedingly imperfect and i ncom plete, was 552,753/. The estimate of his Noble Friend, w owing s to circumstances Which were after Wards explained, 432,026/.., leaving a difference of 120,000 / . Beth those m see i sti ii mates Were very much under the mark. H e believed mi g ht take the episcopal revenues —the revenues h eld by deans, pre bends,the parochial tithes at i 486,omthineoirpcaisenoopnasl,, a at t 9 9 163 ,000 .11.i2/i ; thes held by dignitaries at 24,000/. ; making in all 524,6601. Deduct from this 25/. d s e h hmu i which sce hdme appeared ss to 31 thebe per cent.' f or t h e 'rent-charge, and there remai ne d 390,4951: tithes, 2' a 7 n s d .; Add for epi scopa l revenues, after deducting tith es , 162,000/ , v add6tso,2t. 652,0 col. present nHe thet income believed i l e u v e e d r. of f t he el glebestesti Irishmaat t Church de formed by Lord Morpeth some years ago, was 744, 44 26/• Well, now, thr y had to provide out of this ir:co me fora popula tion of 750,000 Episcopalians. In the original returns the Wes: leyans were improperly included. Thity amounted to . at least 100,001 persons, and were totally independent of the Establish ment.—(Cheers.) In England there were 14,000,00 Pro.; testants. There were in Ireland 2,450 parishes, and 1,422 :beneficed elergy. In England there were 10,7e0 parishes. In Ireland there were two archbishops and ten bishops ; in Eng: land, with an episcopal population ten times larger, there were only two archbishops and twenty bishops.—( Hear, hear.) To one, bishop there were in Ireland 115 benefices ; in England there were 412. The diocese of Lincoln contained 1.259 benefices, and that of Norwich 1,033 ; so that there wete two bishops in this country for 2,292 benefices, whilst there were 1,422 benefices in Ireland with ten bielicps and two archbishops to superintend them.—( Hear, hear.) Ile put it to the House whether one archbishop and three bi s l ions • wshld not be an ample provision for 1,422 benefices, with 752,00 Protestants, costing eighteen or twenty shillings each? But that was not all. Including educational grants, grants :for building churches, and other objects, not less than 3,310,0001. had been 'voted since the union, to support the Irish Establishment. The charter schools, founded by a Primate Poulter, were proselyting schools, in which the Catholic children were taught to regard their parents as heretics. How could they be expected to turn out well. when they were educated in' such a belief? Ir point of fact • they had not done so. He did not wish to repeat anything which he had stated already ; but some of his former state ments having beers denied, he felt bound to allude to them. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Recorder of Dublin said that the neglect of the native language had been greatly over rated. The Honourable Gentlemen then referred to events which occurred in the reigns of Elizabeth and James to bear out bis statements on this subject. The Hon. Gentleman then went into a series of statements, to show that from the first establishment of the English dominion in Ireland. the object of the Government had constantly been to enrich the Church at the expense of the people. • The Hon. Baronet the Member for Oxford had on a former occasion al luded to' the great improvement which had lately taken place in the Episcopal - clergy in' Ireland. According to the Hon. Baronet the Apostolic age was on the eve of returning in that country. Now, it so happened that he (Mr. Ward) was constantly receiving communications from Ireland on the sub ject of the Church. He believed that be might say that his desk was the general receptacle for all documents relating to the abuses of the Established Church in Ireland. Now he held in his hand a document, of the authenticity of which he had no doubt, it was entitled a catalogue of the genuine effects of the late venerable Thomas De Lacy, Archdeacon of Meath, to be sold by auction, and was dated in February last. Among the articles for sale, he found enumerated forty thorough-bred horses and mares, justly celebrated in all the hunts and steeple chases in Ireland an entire Spanish ass ; a spanish donkeyin foal; thirty couple of beagles, and thirteen brace of greyhounds well known in the county of Meath.—( Hear.) These things seemed certainly very little like the Apostolic age as he under stood it. The Hon. Baronet would find that there was still small rooom for improvement. These documents had been transmitted to him by a Catholic clergyman, who,• in his letter, had stated that the placard enclosed would illustrate the man ner in which the wealth of the State was lavished on the Church of the minority in Ireland, but he protested against the wealth being transferred to the Catholic Church. His de sire was to see it employed in some purpose which should be useful to all classes of the people. Such were the doctrines entertained by the whole Catholic prelacy and priesthood. Now how could they imagine that the people of Ireland, when they saw these revenues, which had been originally left for the sup port of the Catholic religion, thus lavished on the members of a sinecure Church, who wasted them in the profusion of worldly luxury—how could they imagine the people of Ireland could place any reliance on their sense of right or of justice? He admitted that the late Archdeacon De Lacy was a kind, hospitable, li beral man—he did not complain of him, but of the system. Nature had intended him for an excellent fox-hunting squire, but the law had made him a bad archdeacon.—( Laughter.) But then they were told that to meddle with the Irish Church would be a breach of the Act of Union. If the lAct of Union had no better foundation to stand upon than that, God help them and it—it' would not stand twelve months.—( Hear. ) He could not forget the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the' Government on the Dissenters' Chapel 1111•-a measure which met with his hearty concurrence. The Right Hon., Baronet had spoken of the good effects of perfect tolera tion at Tamworth, where they were like a happy family, with a Unitarian chapel at one end of the town, a Catholic chapel at the other, and the ;church, like the cut in the Honourable Baronet's caricature, keeping the peace between them. —( Hear, hear.) Surely Tamworth was not to be the exception—why was not the Tamworth system made co-exten• ,sive,with the empire ?—( Hear, hear, from Sir R. Peel.) He knew the meaning of that cheer. In Tamworth the Church had her rights, and the Dissenters were tolerated. That was right, for the Church was the Church of the majority ; but let the Right Hon. Baronet transfer the revenues of the Church to the Unitarian or the Catholic minority, and he would have a little Ireland at his park gate in a fortnight. He utterly denied that they were bound to support the Irish Church, either by the Act of Union, or by the Emancipation Act of 1829. The Catholic oath, in 1829. was framed without any participation or compact with the Catholics, and, at the time of the union. not only was there no compact in favour of the Church, but there were assurances given by Mr. Pitt, and by Lord Corn wallis, that the union should b e i mme di a t e ly f o ll owe d b y Catholic emancipation. As a proof of this, he would refer, not only to the communication s of th ose di s ti ngu i s h e d men, but to the who'e course of the union debates. As a proof of Mr. Pitt's sincerity in this instance, he would remind the House that when Mr. Pitt found he could not carry his measures in favour of the Catholics into effect, he resigned office ' in 1804. and yet the men who dined at Pitt c lub s co upl e d Mr. Pitt's name with Protestant ascendancy.--( Cheers.) Why, Mr. Pitt had actually struck out the sixth article of the union as it came from Ireland, which saved the Church all the rights, privileges, and jurisdictions which then belonged to it, and had substituted the article as it stood at present, guaranteeing to the Church its discipline and doctrine in the place of the original sixth article ; and he made this substitution on the ground that he wished to reserve to the Imperial Parliament the power of considering what it might be expedient to do fur his Majesty's Catholic subjects. Now, it was not possible for a Minister of the Crown to hold stronger language than this. But, even supposing the Act of Union had guaranteed the pre. servation of the Irish Church interest, still he might ask the Right Hon. Baronet how he proposed to deal with the question? This was the last remnant of the old system. The Right Hon. Baronet must have foreseen some years ago that it must come to this. He had emancipated the Catholics, and he also stated that when they were emancipated, if they had the feelings of men they must necessarily use their power to endeavour to obtain the restoration of their own Church, and that 'the union with Scotland had never been completed until that hadbeen effected. How did the R.ght Hon. Baronet mean to deal with this question? Did he mean to fall back on the " No Popery" cry, and to re-enact the Catholic disabilities? Ile had lately seen a remarkable suggestion on this point from a gen tleman who had at one time been honoured by a high eulogium by the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies, he meant the Rev. Hugh M'Neill, who, although he was not now so im portant as he was some years ago, before the present Ministry came into power, was still a gentleman possessed of considerable local influence. That gentleman as late as December last, 'in addressing the Conservative Operative Associa tion of Liverpool, had given it as his opinion, that the British Constitution would be destroyed unless political disabilities were again imposed on the Roman Catho lics.—( Hear, bear.) He hardly thought the Right Hun. Baronet would agree with that gentleman. Then there was another gentleman, the Rev. Mr. Glover, who, in a re cent work on Ireland, had stated it as his opinion that all the agitation in Ireland was owing to the double episcopal rule of the Roman Catholic Bishops and of the Bishops of the Esta blished Church, which was the ancient Church. Mr. Glover stated that it was entirely in the power of the Home Secretary to stop the agitation at any time, by issuing a royal proclarna tion informing the people of Ireland that the Roman Catholic Church was a new Church, not dating to a later period than the seventeenth :century, and that the Bishops of the Esta blished Church were the true representatives of the Apostle., and of the Saints in general, and of St. Patrick in particular ; that that was the old religion, which was not the less old because it was preached in the English language. Those were professions made by men who professed the sin cerest regard for all classes of their fellow.couutrymen, and one of them at least had been lauded for his miliness by the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies. Was the Right Hon. Gentleman at the head of the Government prepared to say that Catholics were not justified in voting for those reforms in the Established Church which a large portion of the Protestants of this kingdom were in favour of ? Did he mean to go back to the days of 1753 or of 1792, when Lord Westmoreland indig nantly rejected a petition from the inhabitants of Cork, because it contained a paragraph which prayed for the remission of some of the penal laws which then afflicted Catholics? Did the Right Hon. Baronet subscribe to Mr. Montgomery Martin's recommendation—to punish every Irishman who happened to be a repealer with the loss of his goods ? Did he believe in the soundness of the triumph over " the convicted conspirators ?' Did he believe that that success would insure the peace of Ire land ? He thought that would be a most unsound conclusion, and one which he saw nothing in the present condition of the affairs of that country to warrant—he saw nothing in Ireland now but a sullen dogged feeling of dislike to England, and a distrust of our justice.—( Hear, hear.) There was a general feeling there, that if O'Connell had been an Englishman and tried in England, be would have been acquitted--( Loud cries of " Hear, hear") —that he was in prison because he was an itishman, and because ho eat • tried in Dublin.—( Hear, hear.) - Such a feeling naturally gave rise to strong and general re sentment. He saw no sign of discouragement or despondency on the part of those who had joined Mr. O'Connell in the re• peal agitation. He saw no sign of any disposition to ask un worthy favours of the Crown to effect the release of' a roan who, whatever his faults might be—and he (Mr. Ward) did not be lieve they were greater than what would naturally fall to the lot of one engaged in active public duty —a man whom history would pronounce to be the most eminent of his age and coun try—he saw no disposition, he repeated, to Ale for even his liberty, although it would be, no doubt, to the Irish people a source of unspeakable satisfaction. lie feared, if the wounded feelings which at present existed were not allayed, that the struggle would soon be of a different nature—a struggle for . separation instead of repeal. Were the sympathies of. Europe with them in this persecution of Ireland? He thclight not—he did not think the Government could rely on them for a moment. Ireland was our Poland, and what was 'felt for Poland we ought to feel for Ireland. He did not ask them to go to Catholic Belg;um sr Catholic France, but he would go to Protestant Switzerland and Protestant Ger many. The Hon. Membsr then referred to a passage in a French work, the " Bibliotheque Originel," lately published, 411 which it was stated that the present condition of Ireland was L rotterly untenable, The work was circulated over the whole 'Continent, and the Continental newspapers generally had 'per fect horror of our policy. They could not understand the mi serable inconsistency of our applauding public liberty, and yet practising the most illiberal policy upon a large portion of our fellow-subjects. For three centuries the greatest cruelties had been practised on them in the name of the Irish' Protestant Church Establishment.—( Hear.) Why the treaty of Westphalia, although its territ orial re gulations had been w long since blown to the wind, as prized by the Germans, because it conferr ed civil and religious liberty. Germany sympathised with Irelan d , an d _ished to see her shake off that yoke of oppression, tha t cruel yoke, by the tortures of which, as Judge Jebb remarked, you m i g h t track Ireland by her blood, like a wounded man.—( Hear, hear.) Whilst we were voting away 800,000/. a year for the e mancipation of the blacks , we were annually higgling and haggling about a paltry sum of 8,000/. a year for the educatio n of 7,000,000 of our fellow-subjects.—( Hear, hear.) W as i t not lamentable to see us risking the peace of Ireland, to pre serve a paltry rotten system, which Pitt had, twenty-seven years ago, declared must be abandoned, and which, h e sa id, could not survive Catholic emancipation. We saw the King of Prussia laying the first stone of the Catholic cathedral at Cologne amid acclamations, and yet the Queen of England could not place the name of the -most distinguished Catholic in her realms on the Privy Council, without encountering the vulgar abuse of Exeter' Hall. lie would call upon the House that night to take the first step to put an end to this system. lie trusted that this subject of the Irish Church would receive ample oonsideration at the hands of the Commons of England, and that that fends source of discontent would be removed, and that tranquillity N 7 11 ~'