The Sun. — London, England, 1836-05-20 00:00:00

PIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS It will be seen from our Parliamentary Report, that the Bill " for the destruction of Municipal Institu tions, and the perpetuation of discontent in Ireland," framed by Baron Lyndhurst, and passed by the Tory majority in the House of Lords was read a first time in the , Lower House last night, and ordered to be printed, upon the motion of Lord John Russell, and after one of the most interesting and animated debates that has taken place this session. To the friends of Reform—to all those who desire the establishment of peace in Ireland—to every man who wishes to see that country prosperous, and a source of strength to the empire, the magnificent speech of the Secretary of State for the Home Department must afford a large share of real satisfaction. After declaring his anxiety and his determination to examine the new Bill with calmness, and with a disposition to avoid, if possible, a collision with the Upper House, the Noble Lord Continued:— " But I trust the House will do me the justice to sup pose that I must remain free from the imputation of being a participator in depriving the people of Ireland altogether of Municipal Government, and thereby inflicting on them a mark of distinction which cannot but be considered as a stigma and degradation.—( Loud cheers.) It is our desire as well as interest to unite the people of the sister kingdom in one common bond of affection with the people of Eng land. If six, out of eight millions of the inhabitants of that country, differing in language, differing in religion, were only anxious for an opportunity to shake off a Government which they considered tyrannical and oppressive, then, perhaps, I might be prepared to deprive the people of Ireland altoge ther of free institutions, and to look to the sword alone as the means of maintaining our empire. But, having no such belief, entertaining no such opinion, but wishing that the people of Ireland should be firmly united to this coun try, and convinced that if they are treated—l will not say with indulgence, I will not say with kindness, I will not say with generosity, but I will say with justice— (Much cheering)—with that justice with which English men should he prepared, and I believe are prepared, to treat their fellow-subjects—(llear, hear)—in that spirit, in the spirit of the concession made in 1793, in the spirit of the concession called Catholic Emancipation, and in the spirit with which, since that date, the penal laws have been relaxed, I shall be ready to argue, that unless you ehraose to go back and to change your policy altogether (whatever may be our views with respect to some of the amendments, and the particular bearing of certain of the provisions of the Bill), this House will not consent to de prive Ireland altogether of the hope of municipal govern ment.—(Cheers from all sides.) If it should do so, this . House would not only be striking a blow at the union with Ireland ; it would not merely be actin:l7 partially and un justly on an Irish question, but it would be inflicting a wound on the spirit of free government itself.—(Cheers.)" There is not in Great Britain an individual who does not happen to be steeped to the chin in ignorance and bigotry, that will not cordially concur in the wisdom, the justice, the prudence, and the good policy of this declaration of Lord John Russell, which cannot fail to be produc tive of the best effects in Ireland, at a time when the insult and degradation atteinnted to he heaped upon the people by the hereditary chamber may be expected to sink deep into their minds. There cannot remain a shadow of doubt any loneer (Il)on the the public as to the certain fate which awaits the Cop ley scheme. That measure will be hurled back upon its authors with that ignominy which they have SO richly earned by their cowardly proceedings, so eacr !retically denonucea in the speech of Lord Clements. Far the delinquencies of the Tory Peers there were not, however, wanting apologists. The pious Baro nets who obtained . the representation of Caithness and Cumberland tinder a false pretence, appositely enough stood forward as the vindicators and eulog ists of the mischief-makers in the Upper House. Sir George Sinclair has sinned so grievously against principle, consistency, and his constituents, that lie cannot for give Ministers for introducing those salutary mernur;•s which established his own worthlessness as a politi- To any one afflicted with the blue devils, this sanctimonious gentleman's panegyric upon the Peers Kill prove an infallible atuidote. 'Happy Peers to have an advocate so worthy of them 1 We leave them both in the hands of Mr. 'Hume, and pass on to the Cum berland Baronet. That Rialit Honourable Member tallied a deal of nonsense about " revolution," and " fatal concession," and " rapid movements in a down ward path"—the winding up of all which was, that as the Catholics of Ireland were not perfectly contented under the domination of Orange Lodges and Orange Corporations, and fleecing parsons, after being loosed from the most galling fetters imposed by the penal code, no further concession of liberty and justice ought to be made in their favour l .And why, let us inquire, (.Ul. are the Irish Catholics still discontented ? "It is not because," as the Chancellor of the Exchequer well ob served, " it is not because much has been given, but because more has been withheld." The Tories, as has been already remarked in this journal, sowed the whirlwind, and they now reap the storm. They planted the dragon's teeth in Ireland ; and because a crop of armed men has sprung up, they resolve to extend tyranny, and perpetuate discontent. In this purpose they shall be baffled. In the attempt to wound the people of Ireland, and to injure the reforming Govern ment, they will find out, to their sorrow, that they have plunged a poignard into the very core of hereditary lc gislation.—Morninff Chronicle. The Irish Corporation Bill, as amended by the House of Lords, was last night sent back to the House of Commons. On this occasion several speeches were made, some of them of great import ance on account of the talent, the respectability, and the weight of the speakers; others of considerable im portance on account of the political station of the speakers. Under the former description we will be understood at once to refer to the observations of Sir James Graham, Mr. Shaw, and Sir Henry Hardinge ; under the latter, to those of the two Cabinet Minis ters who addressed the House upon the occasion, viz., Lord John Russell and Mr. Chancellor of the Ex chequer. Of the small fry of Radicalism, the Mem ber for Middlesex, for instance, and some joints of the O'Connell tail, who shed what illumination they-could upon the question, we need not say that organic changes in the Constitution are their ready remedy for what they deem the evil of a House of Lords that will not implicitly and invariably adopt whatever measures are sent up to them from Mr. O'Connell's House of Commons. The public will, probably, be of opinion that before these gentlemen can he entitled to much respect as Members of a Constitu tional Legislature, a considerable organic change must be effected in their own moral and intellectual consti tutions. We do not mean to say more than we have spoke already of the merits of the various speeches delivered upon this occasion. This was a little re hearsal of what it is, we suppose, intended to get up more perfectly by-and-by. But a more complete fai lure, than this rehearsal unfortunately turned out, was never witnessed. The House, when at the fullest, did not contain fifty members; and the moment the discus sion on the Lords' amendments was at an end, the House was compelled to adjourn, from the deplorable circumstance that no more than thirty-six members were present. This does not look well for the cause of agitation, or for the prospect of reforming the ;House of Lords. We have in another ar ticle referred to Mr. O'Connell's letter on the sub ject of an organic change in the construction of the House of Lords. We have also inserted the letter, because frequent reference was made to it in the discussion of the Irish Corporation Bill in the House of Commons. We wish that the letter should be read, and carefully compared with the speech of the Ministerial Leader of the House of Commons. It will be found, we think, that there are such points of resemblance between them as can scarcely be quite ac cidental. Ministers do not yet, however, quite adopt the O'Connell project, of superseding the present House of Lords by an elective assembly. They are manifestly feeling their way, and will probably by the beginning of J une , to w hi c h t i me t h e di sc ussion of the Lords' amendments on the Irish Corporations Bill is post poned, have made up their minds, whether they will employ their official .;nfluence in promoting the success of the meditated O'Co.'incll revolution, or endeavour to dispense for the future vt ith the Parliamentary influence of Mr. O'Connell. One or other it becomes more and more evident they moot do. They will do, no doubt, what seems most conducive to their own inte rest, leaving the interests of Ireland and of Great Britain to take their chance. If Mr. O'Connell should succeed before June 1,11 getting 93 apowerful agitation, . ` ~ t will have the' Ministers with - him. If he should fail in this (whichwe take to be far from improbable,) Ministers will avail themselves of the safe opportunity to show to the world how very independent they can be. With respect to reforming the House of Lords, the Ministers, who receive their instructions from Mr. O'Connell, apparently do not know very well what course to pursue. Mr. O'Connell and his friends in the Ministry should, however, take the pains to 're fleet that, perhaps, the House of Lords may not choose to be reformed according to their recipe ; and that no reform can be forced upon their Lordships' House without a direct and visible overthrow of the Constitution.—Morning Post. We desire to be understood, in terms 'the most dis tinct and emphatic which the English language ad mits of, as repeating our authorized contradiction of the rumour attempted to be revived by certain of our Contemporaries, as to the intended retirement of the able and popular head of the Reform Administration. With a persevering baseness which apostates .only practise, we are again assured that even in the Cabi net a strong feeling exists of the necessity of such a step. To this we reply, that . . the assertion is, like all those that have proceeded from the same source and on the same subject, utterly and absolutely false— without a shadow of foundation at the present or any former time—without even the usual qualification of fraudulent mendacity, the intermixture of a scanty portion of truth—it is a lie, naked, absolute, and unmitigated. The abandoned clique with whom the unprincipled falsehood originated, could not have selected a more appropriate channel for the dissemi nation of their exploded slander. We have very re cently pledged ourselves to exhibit at the proper time, without disguise and without circumlocution, the prime movers of this infamous intrigue, and that pledge shall be redeemed to the letter. At present we shall confine ourselves to certain details, perfectly authentic, and which, should any indiscreet activity on the part of the injudicious friends of the parties implicated render it necessary, we arc prepared to substantiate. The mischievous garrulity of certain dandies and dowagers who infest the purlieus of St. James's, had given a sort of spurious currency to some obsolete scandal, re vived for the laudable purpose of annoying a political' adversary. The story, with the usual embellishments and exaggerations, found its way to the diplomatic sa loons of Paris; and the prolific brain of a veteran in triguante, perfectly acquainted with English Tory so ciety, at once conceived and acted upon the idea of converting this piece of apochrypal personal malice into a political engine.. An English coadjutor was indispensable to the successful issue of the foreign machination, and the abdicated Empress of the regions of fashion was applied to, and at once cor dially assented. The discarded slanders of former times were resuscitated ; the half-forgotten and wholly untrue anecdotes, originally manufactured by some bitter old women of quality, were once more put in requisition, and the dowagers of both sexes eagerly swallowed, or affected to swallow, the fabrications. It is quite true that the less corrupted hearts and wiser heads of the Conservatives at once repudiated the silly and infmnous proceedina—but unfortunately for the reputation of the party, they amount to be a mise rable minority ; and in defiance of public and private decency, the daily organs of the faction received and acted upon their oriinal instructions, to give every which their limited circulation and dal mn!ed character permitted, to the nefarious false - - hood. Of the pertinacity with which certain of these satellites persist in the face of truth, and even of probability-, to re-iterate their refuted fal lacies, every day affords a fresh example—and we are even gravely assured by one of our Contemporaries, this they " know" that certain members of the Cabinet participate in the feelings of virtuous indignation which fill the bosom of our gifted brother—hut, has our fel low-labourer forgotten that apostacv is at best but an indifferent passport to an already abused confidence ; and that joined to discovered perfidy, it opposes an in superable barrier ? Does he suppose that the people of England, who once dwelt with pleasure upon his able mid eloquent eulogies of the Reform Ministry, will swallow the calumnies with which he now endea vours to load them ? If he does, he has formed a most erroneous estimate of his readers and of himself —the former will never hazard another betrayal of their abused favour, and the latter must console himself with the tardy remorse of an ancient deserter— Cesaris armiq Illustris Labients erat, nuns transfuga vilis, —Morning Advertiser. g 'VI() dam! Y SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock-. THE LONDON GAZET FE THIS EVENING. FOREIGN OFFICE, MAY 20. The King has been graciously pleased to appoint Samuel Gardner, Esq. to be his Majesty's Consul at Jassy. FROWN OFFICE, MAY 20. MEMBER Rr.TIRNED TO SERVE IN TIIE PRESENT PARLIAMENT, City of Kilkenny—Daniel O'Connell, Esq., in the room of Richard Sullivan, Esq., who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. WHITEHALL, MAY 16. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Edward Birch, of Rochester, in the county of Kent, Gent. to be Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. WHITEHALL, MAY 17. The Lord Chancellor has appointed William Goodwin Wagstaffe, of Grantham, in the county of Lincoln, Gent., to be a illasttr Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. WAR OFFICE, MAY 20. Ist Regiment of Dragoon Guards—M. Pipon, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Watson, who retires, May 20. Scots Vusileers--Brevet Colonel E. Bowater to he Lieutenant- Colonel by purchase, vice Keate, who wetires ; Captain and Lieutenant-Colonel John Aitcheson, to be Major, with the rank of Colonel, by purchase, vice Bowater ; Lieutenant and Captain G. Dixon to be Captain and Lient.-Colonel by purchase, vice Aitchison; Ensign and Lieutenant E. Gage to be Lieutenant and Captain, by purchase, vice Dixon ; C. V. Le vinge, Gent. to be Ensign and Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Gage, May 20. 6th Regiment of Foot—Ensign M. Hall to be Lieutenant, with out purchase, Vice Walker, deceased, March 18 ; C. N. North, Gent., to be Ensign, vice Hall, May 20. 11th Foot—Lieutenant H. Elliott, from the half-pay of the 31 Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice Benson, appointed Paymaster of the 28th Regiment of Foot, May 20. 16th Foot—Ensign R. A. Sparkes, from the half-pay of the York Chasseurs, to be Ensign, vice Brabazon, deceased, May 20. 20th Foot—Lieut. W. Murray, froM the 55th Regiment of Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Hutchinson, who exchanges, Jan. 9. 28th Fo3t=lient. G. T. Benson, from the 11th Regiment of Foot, to be Paymaster, vice Hilliard, appointed to the 68th Regi ment of Foot, May 20. 31st Foot—Lieut. S. 0. Goodwin to be Captain, without pur chace, vice Greene, deceased ; Ens. W. Maule to be Lieutenant, vice Goodwin, Dec. 22 ; Ens. F. J. Thomas to be Lieutenant, vice Maule, whose promotion of 29th Dec., 1835, has not taken place; G. Douglas, Gent. to be Ensign, vice Thomas, May 20. 40th Foot—Ens. W. A. Fryers to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Elton, who retires ; F. Rinsell, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Fyers, May 20. 55th Foot—Lieut. G. Hutchinson, from the 20th Regiment of Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Murray, who exchanges, Jan. 9. 56th Foot—Major G. M. Eden to be Lieutenant-Colonel, by purchase, vice Prichard, who retires, May 20. Captain F. 0. Leighton to be Major, by purchase, vice Eden ; Lieut. J. Wegg to be Captain, by purchase, vice Leighton ; En sign W. A. Conran, to be Lient., by purchase, vice Wegg; D. Lucas, Gentleman, to be Ensign., by purchase, vice Conran, May 20. 62dFoot—Captain H. Astier, from half-pay Unattached, to ba Captain, vice C. F. Neyoe, who exchanges, May 21. 66th Foot—Captain T. H. Johnston to be Major, by purchase, vice Daniell, who retires ; Li eutenant T. G. Armstrong to be Captain, by purchase, vice Johnston ; Ensign C. M'Carty b be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Armstrong ; Hon. E. A. F. H. Lambart to be Ensign, by purchase, vice M'Carty, May 20. 68th Foot--Lieutenant \V. F. V. Graham to be Captain, by purchase, vice Vivian, who • retires ; Ensign J. M. Napier to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Graham ; L. C. Elwes, -Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Napier, May 20. 71st Foot—Capt. C. Stewart, to be Major, by purchase, vice Napier, who retires ; Lieut. H. T. Beresford to be Captain, by purchase, vice Stewart, Ensiign W. Wilkinson, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Beresford .• Sholto John Lord Aberdour, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Wi; kinson, May 20. 76th Foot--Paymaster M. Collins, from the 2d West India Re giment, to be Paymaster, vi, - e Kennedy, appointed to the 22d Foot, May 20. Royal African Colonial Cor, 3s—Major J. Hingston to be Lieu tenant-Colonel, with out purci ease ; Lieut. J. Mac Donnell to be Captain, without purchase ; E 3 is. T. Smales to be Lieutenant, vice Macdonnell ; W. St. Leger ,Angelo, Gent., to be Ensign, vice Smales, May 20. IJNAT•TACIIED. Licut. 11. Astier, from the Ist Regiment of Foot, to be Cap tain, Without purchase, Ma).• 20. ME [ORA NDU.M. The date of Dr. J. F. CI. trke's appointment, to full pay as As sistant-Inspector of Hospitals, is May 2, 13.35. DECLARATION.: 3 OF INSOLVENCY. ER KEST RAPALLO, mei chant, Walnat-tree-walk, Lambeth. EDWARD FINLAYSON GRANT, surgeon, Clarendon square, Somers-town. BANK RUPTS. Walworth. Manchester agent, T W H ILN A Iy D B O A B T s T o E N N : c r a e le. 34 i h ter ;nd Barge yard, Bucklersbury. WILLIAM CRAVEN, paper-manufacturer, Horsforth, York shire. ROBERT JAMES, bone-dust-manufacturer, Chalkside, Se bergbam Cumberland. BENJAMIN WATERHOUSE, cotton-spinner, Glossop, Derbyshire. WILLIAM HAWKINS, timber merchant, Nottingham. JOSEPH BURWELL and HENRY CROOKES, cloth mer chants, Huddersfield. COURSE OF EXCHA Amsterdam C.F. 12 5 Ditto, at sight l2 34, Rotterdam ° U l2 6 .NGE.-(THIS DAY ) Leghorn 17 Genoa 25 90 Milan 11 Venice 47 Naples 4O Palermo per oz. 1224 Lisbon 56 Oporto 56% Rio Janeiro • 361.4 Bahia 26 Buenos Ayres - Dublin, 21 days' sight lsy Cork l% Antwerp lO 5 Fla.nbur , M.B 1313% Alma l3 134 Paris, 3 days' sight 95 60 Ditto 2 Us. 25 99 Marseilles. .... 25 90 Frankfort on Maine, Ex. 51. 154 Petersbuigh, ruble '3 Us lO 0 Berlin _ _ Vienna, effective ii O M.IO 10 Trieste ditto lo_ll Madrid 36% Cadiz.. , 37% - PRICE OF BULLION, PER OZ Portugal Gold, coin £0 0 0 Foreign Gold, in bar 5...... 3 17 10% New Doubloons New Dollars Silver, bars. standard 0 0 0 Bilboa 'l6 i/, - ; B trcelona 96k; S , :ville 76i Gibraltar The Hon. Berkeley Craven committed suicide this morning, by shooting himself with a pistol. He was uncle to Earl Craven, and is reported to have lost on the Derby yesterday. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS. ROYAL ASSENT. The LORD CHANCELLOR, the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, and Lord GLENELO, took their seats on the Woolsack this day at four o'clock, for the purpose of giving the Royal Assent by Commission to several Bills. The SPEAKER of the House of Commons, accompanied by several Members, having appeared at the Bar, the Royal As sent was given in the usual manner to the Constabulary Force (Ireland) Bill, the Bankrupts (Ireland) Bill, the Division of Counties ( England and Wales) Bill, the Dunbarton Canal Bill, the Bolton and Leeds Railway Bill, the Wakefield and Sheffield Road Bill, and the Steppingley Inclosure Bill. On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, the Manches ter and Leeds Railway Bill, the Teignmouth Improvement Bill, and the Leeds and Derby Railway Bill, were severally read a second time. The House then adjourned during pleasure. The Earl of SHAF TESBURY resumed his seat on the Wool sack at five o'clock. .. .. Mr. E. DENISON and others brought up :from the Com mons the Perlethorpe Chapelry Bill, which was read a first time. Lord DACRE presented petitions from Cambridgeshire and Hertfordshire praying that in any revision of the Criminal Law the punishment of death might not be retained for any crime than that of wilful and accomplished murder. Earl SHAFTESBURY laid on the fable, on behalf of the Bishop of Winchester, a Bill to render valid all marriages celebrated in a Chapel of Ease, called Thames Chapel, Sur rey, which had not been licensed. The parties who had been married there were very anxious on the subject. The Bishop of WINCHESTER presented a petition from Peckham, in favour of the better observance of the Sabbath. Mr. PEASE and others brought up the Great North of Eng land Railway Bill.—Read a first time. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid on the table the third Report of the Church Commissioners—Ordered to be printed. The Earl of HARIW\VBY presented several petitions praying for the Better Observance of the Sabbath. Mr. E. TENNENT and Others brought up the Hungerford Market Company Incorporation Bill.—Read a first time. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE would now only move that the House adjourn till to-morrow, with the understanding that to-morrow, after the judicial business was over, the I-louse v:ould adjourn till the 30th inst. Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Tile SPEAKER took the Chair at a Quarter before Four o'Clock, when Daniel O'Connell, Esq., took the oaths and hii seat for Kilkenny. He was introduced amidst loud cheers by Messrs. Gilion, D. Roche, und Power. The U.sher of the Black Rod (Sir Augustus Clifford) ap peared, and summoned the House to the House of Peers, to hear the Royal Assent . given to certain Bills, for which see Lords' report. PERLETHORPE CHAPEL BILL. Mr. E. DENISON moved the third reading of the Perlethorpe Chapel Bill. Mr. A. TREVOR could not allow the Bill to pass without taking the sense of the House upon it, as he believed it was against all principle. Mr. DENISON defended the Bill. • Mr. Sergeant GOULBURN hoped that the House would not pass this Bill, as it went to establish a very bad precedent, as every one who had a similar case would ask for the same privilege. He hoped the Hon. Member would not trouble the House to divide.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. HUGHES HUGHES hoped that the sense of the House would favour the Bill, and he trusted that greater faci lities would be afforded generally for increased Church ac commodation, such as this Bill would afford. He hoped that the House would not only pass this Bill, but that it would form a precedent that would be frequently followed. Mr. JERVIS wished to know if provision were made by this Bill for the repairs of the chapel ? Mr. E. DENISON said that the church had been built by Earl Manvers—it had been always maintained by him, and he would continue to repair and uphold it. The Bill was awl read a third time and passed. MIDLAND COUNTIES RAILWAY. Mr. DENISON brought up the Report on this Bill. BLACKWALL COMMERCIAL AND NORTHERN RAILWAY. Mr. H. ALSTON brought up the Report on this Bill. The Hon. MEMBER then moved that the Committee on the Blackwall Commercial and Northern Railway Bill be allowed further time, until the 9th of Junc, to make their Report. After some discussion, which was carried on in a conversa tional tone, Mr. P. THOMPSON suggested that the time should be limited to the 6th of June, in which case he would make no objection to the time being extended. The motion was then agreed to. MIDLAND RAILWAY BILL. Sir R. FERobgSoNjaresentehapetitTon from the ma . owners of Nottingham and Derby, against the Midland Coon. ties' Railway Bill. TRINITY HARBOUR BILL. Ou the motion of Sir A. LEITH HAY, the Trinity Har bour Bill was read a third time and passed. GRAVESEND PIER BILL. Mr. T 0 0 KEPreSented a petition from Gravesend in favour of this Bill. The Hon. Member said that in the absence of his Hon. Friend, the Member for West Kent, he had been requested to move the second reading of this Bill. Sir E. CODRINGTON had a petition to present against the Bill, and would oppose it, on the ground that it created an undue monopoly. Mr. H. HUGHES moved that the Bill be read a second time this day six months. In doing this he would sim ply advert to two considerations, the Report of the Steam Navigation Committee in the year 1831, which stated that " considerable inconvenience would arise from the prac tice of many steam-vessels starting from one point at the same time, and keeping together." And the other con sideration was the resolution of the Steam Navigation and Port of London Committee, of the 17th of March, 1836, in these words, " That it was the opinion of the Committee that the clause of the present Gravesend Pier Act, which prevented more than one vessel from disembarking passengers at the same time was a considerable protection to the public and to the in terests of navigation, and that any alteration in the clause would be injurious." Now this Bill was for the express pur pose of altering that clause, and inflicting the very injuries which the Resolution of the Committee sought to prevent. The Bill would allow two steam-boats to lie along-side of the wharf, and run against each other in the river, arid thus increase the evils mentioned in the report to which he referred. Sir E. CODRINGTON opposed the motion for more reasons than were put forward by the Hon. Member for Oxford.—(Hear.) The projection of the pier would be a serious injury to the navigation of the river ; and if it passed, the interests of the watermen along the river would be altogether destroyed. Those persons had subscribed 1,0001. for the protection of their interests at the Admiralty, and the measure before the House would shut them out from all the advantages which they before gained. Those who called themselves the conservators of the river, really were the cause of all the mischief done to it. The measure before tho House would be an act of gross injustice, and he hoped, therefore, it would not be allowed to pass into a law. Dr. bOWRING concurred with the Hon. and Gallant Member, that it would be a gross injustice to pass this Bill. Captain PE C HELL was requested by the watermen of the river Thames to oppose this Bill, and he never opposed any Bill with greater pleasure. This was the third County of Kent Bill he had felt it his duty to oppose; and, in his opinion, the present Bill, if passed, would be an act of downright robbery. He trusted the House would allow the Bill to go into Com mittee as the only means of enabling the party to pay the debts they had incurred. After a few words from Mr. BERNARD, Mr. G. F. YOUNG wished to state that a petition bad been forwarded to the House that very evening, signed by three-fourths of the bondholders of the debt, declaring them selves perfectly satisfied with the present security. Mr:TOOKE explained—The debt was 30,0001., and the amount due to bondholders was only 19,000/. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when the numbers were— For the Bill l4 Against it Majority against the 8.11 Captain AL SAGE R brought up the report of the Com mittee on the London and Croydon Railway. Mr. E WART presented a petition from Liverpool against certain parts of the Liverpool Dock Bill. DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY. On the motion of Mr. O'CONNELL, the Committee on this Railway obtained a further extension of time to make their report, viz. till July 6. Some mistake had occured, and time was requisite to oorrect it HUNGERFORD MARKET BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. NEWCASTLE AND NORTH SHIELDS RAILWAY.' Mr. A. TREVOR moved the third reading of this Mr. G. F. YOUNG would not suffer this Bill to be read a third time without expressing the strong o bj ect i ons he and his constituents had to it, if he could hope that his opposition would be attended by any goo 4 a ccts. As, however, his opposition to this Bill in a former stage had been attended with a different result, he thought it useless* trouble the House further on the present occasion. The Bill was read a third time, and passed. Mr. A. TREVOR brought up the report of the Committee on this Bill, stating that the standing orders hal been com plied with, but (as we understood) that the preamble of the Bill had not been proved. Mr. HUME, as the report did not state the reasons of the Committee in compliance with the re.alations laid down by the House, moved that the Bill be recommitted, in order that the Committee might make a special report according to the rules of the House. Mr. A. TREVOR thought the course pursued by the Hon. Member for Middlesex rather unusual, and in support of which no ground had been stated. He was sorry the Chairman of the Committee was not in his place, that he might explain what had taken place, but he thought the House ought to be cautious before they acceded to the proposition made by the Member for Middlesex, who it seems had taken the whole county of Durham under his especial protection, as if the Members from that county were incapable of alluding to the interests of their constituents. He supposed that Hon. Gentlemen had enough on hands in the county which he was more intimately connected, and that he had no occasion to travel so far as Durham, in search of subjects on which to expend his care. It appeared the interests of the people in that county were opposed by a cabal, at the head of which, at least as forming a principal part was the Hon. Member opposite. In the Committee every attention was paid to the interests of the parties, every subject connected with it minutely investi gated ; and if the House sanctioned the motion at the other side it would be establishing a dangerous precedent, of which every disappointed speculator would hereafter take advantage in impugning the decision of Committees. Mr. HUME believed there was no other Member in the House but the Gentleman who had just sat down ignorant of the motion made by him (Mr. Hume.) It was one simply to ascertain if the Standing Orders were complied with, and therefore the Hon. Gentleman's indignation was altogether thrown away. Mr. IPOULETT THOMSON entirely concurred with his Honourable Friend, the Member for Middlesex, that this Bill ought to be recommended. The Railway Committe had been appointed for the purpose of procuring and communicating to the House information on the subject of railways. In this instance the Committee had not stated in their report the reasons which induced them to throw out this Bill. By the regulation of the House they were cer tainly bound to do so, and be therefore thought the Bill ought to be recommitted for the purpose of procuring the necessary information. Sir J. GRAHAM contended, that under the circumstances stated by the Committee, they did not feel bound to make any special report to the House • and, in adopting that course, they had acted upon the advice Of the officers of the House. Mr. LAMBTON, as a Member of the Committee, de feuded the course pursued by them. Mr. WA SON was sure that it was the wish of every one of the Members of the Committee to do justice to all parties. Mr. H. HUGHES hoped the House would not be satisfied without seeing the reasons why the Bill was rejected in Corn mittee, in order that the House might see whether they had exercised a sound discretion or not. He believed that on those reasons being seen there would be ample cause for the recommittal of the Bill. Mr. PRA ED thought if the Bill was to be re-committed it should be done upon some special resolution of the House. Mr. E. DENNISON said that the resolutions of the House were intended to controul the proceedings of Commit tess, and therefore the House required to know as well why a Bill was rejected as why it was adopted. Mr. ROBINSON would vote for the re-commitment of the Bill. Mr. PEASE said that the Committee had not adjourned. They were, in point of fact, still sitting as the motion of ad journment was put and negatived. If the House, therefore, wished them to state their reasons for making this report they were ready to do so. All they wished to know was, whether the House would require them to make such a report. Mr. WARBURTON supported the motion. Sir T. FREM ANTLE thought the precedent esta blished by acceding to the resolution a very inconvenient one. If a motion were made for reviving the Committee with instructions to report it should meet with his concurrence. Mr. HUME said that was his object, and he would consent to shape the terms of his motion so as to meet the views of the Hon. Baronet. Mr. LA MBTON wished to know if the House would sanc tion the principle of allowing- members to vote in Committee who had not heard a word of the evidence. The SPEAKER said that it was of the utmost impor tance, that the rules of the House should be strictly ad hered to, and that the House should be in possession of the groury:s upon which a Bill was rejected. In his opinion the orders of the House had not, in the present in stance, been complied with, inasmuch as the rules required that Committees should state the grounds upon which Bills were rejected. Mr. PRAED contended that when the preamble of the Bill was not proved, the Committee had no right to report specially. - After a few words from Mr. PHILLIP HOWARD, Sir G. C LE RK said the question for the House was whether when the preamble was not proved the Committee were bound to make a special report stating their reasons for the decision they had come to. He thought the Bills should be re-com mitted, for the purpose of enabling the Committee to make their report of the minutes of the proceedings to the House. He thought the resolution could not be looked upon by the House as anything else than the Report of the Committee. The Bill was re-committed. Mr. T. DUNC °MBE moved the second reading of the Westminster Small Debt Courts' Bill. Mr. C. BULLER opposed the Bill. In these Courts there was no one having the authority of a Judge, nor was there any one capable of being so by Their education. These Courts were in bad odour throughout the country. The Bill had not been put into the hands of Members, and they could not yet judge of its provisions. He would move that the Bill be read a second time that day six months. Mr. HA WE S hoped his Hon. Friend would not press hi s motion. The parties had now agreed that in Committee the Bill should be made analagous to those which had lately passed for the regulation_ of similar courts in Macclesfield and Leicester. The Bill ought to be allowed to go into Committee where these amendments might be introduced, and then it might be opposed upon principle. Mr. H. HUGHES thought if the Hon.. Member (Mr. Buller we believe) understood this Bill rightly, he would give it his most ardent support. Mr. HUME begged to remind the House that this was not a new Bill, it was a Bill to amend the 23d and 24th of George 11., and to reduce the expenses of the present system. When the Bill was in Committee, he would be happy to have the attention of his Hon. F.iend, or any other Member who could propose any amelioration, and to remove imprisonment for debt. It was very desirable to get rid of imprisonment for debt as early as possible. Sir E. CODRINGTON thought that the present system was very severe, and would therefore support the Bill. Mr. BULLER would not withdraw his amendment, and he must protest against the manner in which the Bill had been smuggled into the House.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. O'CONNELL thought it would be better if there was a general Bill upon the subject, as Leicester, Macclesfield, and several other towns had obtained similar measures. FA Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE denied that the Bill had been smuggled into the House. It had been printed, and in the hands of Hon. Members for some time. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, but no division took place, and the Bill was read a second time. DUBLIN STEAM PACKET COMPANY. On the motion of Lord SANDON, this Bill was read a second time and referred to a Select Committee. Mr. O'CONNELL, on being nominated as one of the Committee declined to act. (LEFT SITTING.) On Wednesday last an inquest was held by Mr. Badger, coroner, at the Town-hall, Sheffield, on the body of Elizabeth Marsden, otherwise called Johnstone, aged about fifteen years. It appeared from the evidence that the de ceased was the daughter of Mrs. Johnstene, the wife of Mr. Johnstone, stone-mason, in Wellington-street, and lived in his house. Mrs. Stacey, who is the daughter of Mr. John stone, had been during the last fortnight staying at her father's for the sake of company, her husband being absent, and she being in depressed spirits. Mrs. Stacey had recently made an attempt to hang herself, and was evidently in a disordered state of mind, but not so as to excite any fear of her doing injury to those about her. On Tuesday night the deceased unlaced Mrs. Stacey's stays, and saw her to bed. She then went to her own bed in another room, and slept with Eliza beth Middleton, the servant. About half-past three o'clock in the morning both the girls awoke, and the deceased asked whether they should get up, as they had to wash, but pre sently said that, as she had a head-ache, they had better lie another hour—a most unfortunate determination, as it turned out, for had she then got up, her life would have been saved. They both fell asleep again, and about half-past four the ser vant girl was awoke by the deceased striking about with her feet. The servant jumped up, and saw Mrs. Stacey standing at the bedside, over the deceased, who was covered with blood. She ran down stairs, and brought up Mr. and Mrs. Johnstone, who found Mrs. Stacey in the same position, her hands bloody, a razor on the pillow, and deceased's throat cut. De ceased died immediately. Mrs. Stacey, who was in her night clothes, was then dressed and given into the custody of the constable. It did not appear that there was any ill will be tween deceased and the prisoner, nor did the latter assign any reason for the dreadful act. The inquest was adjourned to Thursday, and after a patient investigation, the Jury returned a verdict of " Wilful Murder" against Mary Ann Stacey a nd , the Coroner issued his warrant for her committal to York Castle. —Hull Observer. THE LATE FIRE AT FINCH LEY.—In consequence of the late murderous attacks on the firemen while doing duty on the ruins at the late Queen's Head public-house, Finchley, a sharp look-out has been kept, and, although the brick throwers have not been detected, some notorious farmhouse robbers were taken on Monday night by Carter and Little, two firemen, loaded with plunder, which they had taken from the premises of a gentleman named Wood, who, with several others, have been sufferers to a great extent by robberies of the above description, and rewards offered for their detection, but, until Monday night, not the least clue of the parties could be obtained. A'desperate scuffle ensued between the firemen and thieves, but the firemen ultimately succeeded in lodging them safely in the Finchley cage. They are recognised as F art of the Whetstone and Finchley gang of burglars, and a strong suspicion is entertain e d that they are somewhat impli catedin the late attacks on the firemen, IMPERIAL PARLIAMEN T. HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 19. At four o'clock the LORD CHANCELLOR and the Earl of SHAFTESBURY took their seats as Commissioners to give the Royal Assent to several public and private Bills. The Deputy Usher of the Black Rod having summoned the Commons to the Bar, the Speaker, attended by several Members, shortly afterwards appeared, when the Royal Assent was given in the usual form to the following Bills : The Aliens Registration Bill, Stafford Witnesses Indem nity Bill, Writers to the Signet Widows' Fund Bill, Fa mily Endowment Society Bill, British Alkali Company Bill, Westminster Hospital Bill, Glasgow Court House and Bridewell Bill, Leicester Small Debts Bill, Arbroath and Forfar Railway Bill, Great Western Railway Bill, Birmingham and Derby Railway Bill, Ulster Railway Bill, Dundee and Arbroath Railway Bill, Bristol and Exeter Railway Bill, Aylesbury Railway Bill, Exeter Gas Bill, New Mills Gas Bill, Henley Bridge Bill, Leeds Bridge Bill, Crediton Improvement Bill, Wearmouth Docks Bill, Southampton Docks Bill, St. Katharine's Docks Bill, Forth and Clyde Canal Bill, Aberystwith Harbour Bill, Teign ' mouth Harbour Bill, Nottingham Cemetery Bill, Lanark shire Roads Bill, Epping and Harlow Road Bill, Saint Leonard's and Sedlescomb Road Bill ; Hollington and Hastings Road Bill, Ashford and Maidstone Road Bill, Poole Roads Bill, Totnes Road Bill, Kyan's Discovery Bill, Hick's Name Bill, Hodges's Divorce Bill, North Runcton (Norfolk) Inclosure Bill, Alveston (Gloucester) Inclosure Bill, Alstonefield (Stafford) Inclosure Bill, Ab botsley (Hunts) Inclosure Bill, Godmanstone (Dorset) Inclosure Bill, Lebreich, Marcus, Wurtzburg, and Hey man's Naturalization Bill, and Steinkeller's Naturalization Bill. The Commissioners having retired, the Earl of SHAFTESBURY took his scat on the Woolsack as De puty Speaker. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. Lord MORPETH and others from the Commons brought up the Bankruptcy Laws (Ireland) Amendment Bill, the Constabulary Force (Ireland) Bill, the Division of Counties (Ireland) Bill, and the North Midland Railway Bill. PRIVY COUNCIL APPEALS. On the motion of Lord LYNDHURST a return of the number of appeals decided by the Privy Council for the last five years, as well as of the number of cases now set down for hearing, was ordered. TIMBER DUTIES. Lord GLENELG presented a petition from the Legis lative Council and Assembly of New Brunswick, deprecat ing any change in the Timber Duties. Viscount STRANGFORD said he had a petition to present to their Lordships on this most important subject, but in the present empty state of the House he was unwilling to bring it forward. As, however, the matter was to be brought before the other House of Parliament before the recess, perhaps the Noble Lord (Glenelg) would be so good as to allow him to ask, what were the intentions of his Ma jesty's Government at present as to an alteration of the Timber Duties, and whether it was proposed to make any alteration with respect to the measurement of deals ? Lord GLENELG, in reply to the questions of the Noble Viscount, had to state that the latter, namely, that as to the measurement of deals, was at present under the con sideration of Government, and that a final determination might shortly be expected. W ith respect to any change of the Timber Duties, he begged to say that it was not the in tention of Government to make any change in those duties during the present session. He might as well add, to pre vent ail doubts upon the point, that no engagements had been made with foreign powers, so as to fetter the question in any way before it came regularly before Parliament. It was never even in contemplation of the Government to take any such proceeding. The several Bills on their Lordships' table were advanced a stage, and their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MAY 19. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a Quarter to Four o'clock. Mr. H AWES brought up the Report from the Com mittee on the Hungerford Market Bill. Mr. POPE presented returns from the Russia Company. Mr. M. ACKBURNE brought up the Reports of the Committees on the Bristol and Huddersfield, and the Dewsbury and Eyland Road Bills. Mr. HAWES brought up the report of the Committee on the Imperial Continental Gas Bill. The Usher of the Black Rod now appeared, and sum moned the House to attend in the House of Lords, in or der to hear the Royal Assent given to various Bills. On the return of the House from the House 'of Peers the SPEAKER announced that the Royal assent was given to several Bills, for which see Lords' Report. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND.) A Message from the House of Peers announced that their Lordships had agreed to the Act for the regulation of Municipal Corporations in the several cities and boroughs in Ireland, with certain amendments.— ( Hear, hear, and laughter.) The Bill was then ordered to be printed with the amend ments. SOUTH WESTERN DURHAM RAILWAY. Mr. HUME said, that in reference to the South Western Durham Railway, he wished to ask a question of the Hon. Member for the North Riding of York, whom he saw in his place, namely, whether or not a report which had reached him was correct—that the Committee to whom the Bill was referred had decided that the preamble was not proved, and had adjourned sine die without making any re port to the House. Their duty clearly was to examine and report. Mr. CAYLEY, as far as his recollection allowed him, could state in answer to the Member for Middlesex, that the Committee had resolved that the preamble of the Bill was not proved, and he believed they agreed to an adjourn ment until they had asked the opinion of the Speaker on the subject. It was understood that the Chairman should report, but not for some days, to the House. Mr. HUME said the only course then for him was to call the Clerk of the Committee, and ascertain from him the minutes of the proceedings. After a few words from Mr. DENNISON and Mr. PEASE, the subject dropped. DUBLIN STEAM PACKET COMPANY. The LORD ADVOCATE presented a petition agains this Bill. DURHAM RAILWAY. Mr. HUME gave notice that he would move that the Chairman do report progress on this Bill. Mr. WARBURTON hoped the Chairman would not have leave to delay the Report till after the recess. He hoped the House would insist upon the Report being brought up to-morrow, otherwise the opponents of the Bill would have a very great advantage. Mr. HUME gave notice that to-morrow he would move that the Committee be revived.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented three petitions from places in Antrim and Mayo, in favour of the Bill regulating the law of landlord and tenant. He postponed the 2d reading of the Bill to-night, on account of the absence of Irish Members, until after the recess. He wished a full discus sion of the matter. COAL MONOPOLY. Mr. HUME presented a petition on the part of the inhabitants of Westminster, complaining of the practices of certain coal-owners in the North, by which their interests were affected. They prayed the House to institute an in quiry, and they did so because, on the 30th of last month, the coal-owners themselves called for inquiry. It would be his duty when the House re-assembled to move for a Com mittee. Mr. LAM BTON said the coal-owners were ready to go into the inquiry. Mr. PEASE understood that the coal-owners had sacri ficed 10s. per ton in the conveyance of coals from the pit to the shipping. Mr. WARBURTON was persuaded that a combination had been formed in the North and the South to raise the price of coals to the consumer. Mr. TREVOR was sure the coal-owners would come from the inquiry without any imputation on their conduct. The petition was then laid on the table. MUNICIPAL CORORATIONS(IRELAND) BILL LORDS' AMENDAfENTS. Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN, p erce i v i ng th a t th e Irish Muni cipal Bill was sent d own f rom ano th er pl ace , with certain additions and alterations of a very peculiar nature appended to it, was desirous of inquiring of the Noble Lord, the . Secretary for the H ome Department what line of proceeding he would adopt on it ? For himself, as an Irish man, he would say that he considered the alterations which the Bill had undergone a direct insult to his country— ( Loud cheering)—and if no other Hon. Member better calculated for bringing the subject before the House would do so, he would feel it an imperative duty, on its introduc tion, to move, that it be read a second time that day six months.—(Loud cries of" Hear," and cheers.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that it was his inten tion when the hour for public business arrived, to move that the Lords' amendments to the Irish Municipal Bill be printed. He had not read all those amendments, but it would be affectation in him to pretend ignorance of their import. He moved that those amendments be printed, in order that the House might enter upon their consideration . with calmness and dignity befitting this branch of the legisla ture. He had no hesitation in saying, when the time for their discussion arrived, he would be prepared to argue that the House ought not to agree to any amendments, the object o f w hi c h was t o annihilate the mum pal institutions of Ireland, unless they were prepared to re peal the Catholic Relief Bill, and re-enact the Penal Code. —(Loud and con ti nue d cheering.) lam quite sure, said the Noble Lord, that the House will agree with me that th e course which 1 have ventured to point out is that most be- coming the Members of this House , and express the calm and deliberate se nse ofo the Legislature. In the letters o f a distinguish e to d t f he bestthcis alc hul.raanteeii d to of f reigner, recently published, speaking in reference occurred between the two Houses of Parliame nt, the writer events of the last year, and to the differ ences which as a matter of curious observation , tha t the assemhoi Yr‘eatest recmcahrikesh, was most popular in its constitution evinced the of the degree of c a lmness and temper, whilst that bra a nc c elslt traced Legislature less temperance wh ic It - was of conduct o c f o • an hereditary in its p o u b is my wish, Si r , that if hereafter differences shou d_ H ouse fortunately ar i se b e tween this and the other ccioleicTiotgr, same character should still attach to the of Parliament, i n res pect to public measures, proceedin gthat the of this House, and that we may continue to d ur t l o ose serve that praise w hi c h the writer to whom I have alluded has bestowed on us, not only from foreigne rs, but from own countrymen.—(Cheers.) With respect to amendments, I have not yet been able to r ead them all . 0 1 _ am not sufficiently aware of their natur e to say far they do, or do not, preserve the principle embodied in the Bill as it was forwarded from this Hou se, or how far. they are calculated to defeat the objects co ntem p lated so) by that Bill. It would, however, be affectation in me to that I am not s ufficiently acquainted with the imp ort of those _ alterations not to know that the Bill has been to tall y altered in its nature, and that it is no longer what by its title it pro fessed to be when leaving this House, " a Bill for the rega° lation of Municipal Corporations in towns in Ireland." From what I can understand of the nature and chara cter of thesi amendments, the Bill, as now returned to us, may p be designated an Act for the destruction, the a nnihilation, and the total abolition of existing municipal Corpo rations big reland. Having stated thus much as to my understandirl of the alteration made in the Bill, I must say t hat when shall have hereafter to propose this matter fer th e coot - deration of this House, so far from seeking for any collision I shall be ready, calmly and temperately to discuss th_ e amendments introduced by the other House, an d to ' rnak e every concession consistent with the dignity of th is braner l roper of the Legislature. If it were stated that the Munieilgn franchise was not in every instance confided to precisely that class which could exercise it most advantageously—if it were said that the powers vested in the different municipal govern ments were too circumscribed in some cases, an d too el" tended in others, I would have been ready to discuss these objections. On all such points I should have no objection to come to a fair and reasonable compromise. But I trust the House will do me the justice to suppose that I must remain free from the imputation of being a participator in depriving the people of Ireland altogether of municipal gover nmen t , and thereby inflicting on them a mark of distinction whic cannot but be considered as a stigma and degradation.-- (Loud cheers.) It is our desire, as well as interest, to unit e : the laople of the sister kingdom in one common bond unit{ affection with the people of England. If six out of eigh millions of the inhabitants of that country, differing in lan guage, differing in religion, were only anxious for a n opPer . " tunity to shake off a government which they considered t.).* rannical and oppressive, then perhaps I might be prep are to deprive the people of Ireland altogether of free instit'a tions, and to look to the sword alone as the means of 04i 11- taining our empire. But having no such belief; entertain: ing no such opinion, but wishing that the people of helm"' should be firmly united' to this country, and convinced ti l l if they are treated—l will not say with indulgence , I wi. l not say with kindness, I will not say with generosity, but will say with justice—(Much cheering)—with that justice with which Englishmen should be prepared, and I bell . v° ,„ are prepared to treat their fellow subjects—(Hear)--in t i t spirit, in the spirit of the concession made in 1793, " ;„ spirit of the concession called Catholic Emancipation, an, the spirit with which, since that date, the penal laws been relaxed, I shall be ready to argue that unless you an"' to go back and to change your policy altogether (what ever may be our views with respect to some of the amendoontsi and the particular hearing of certain of the provisio s the Bill), this House will not consent to deprive trei nn " altogether of the hope of municipal government.--(Che ers ; from all, sides.) If it should do so, this House would 11 1 ° ,i only be striking a blow at the union with Ireland, it we ll A - not merely be acting partially and unjustly on an 111 ;f question, but it would be inflicting a wound on the s pirit ' free government itself.—(Cheers.) We should be i l f ; Glaring that that discussion, that that debate, that tha t vision of opinion which are the consequences and cone,ota,,r tants of all free government, were no longer in the Eng lis ' House of Commons to be approved or even tolerated. --- Having thus, without going into an argument upon the e s i pecial provisions of these amendments, stated my view ° any plan, or of any change in the Bill which would go the length of abolishing or destroying municipal government al together in Ireland, I shall merely conclude by moving that the Lord's Amendments be printed, and taken into consr deration on a future day, which I shall presently name. Sir G. SINCLAIR—The Protestants of this, empirl and especially of Ireland, have great cause to be thinir.w that there is another tribunal before which measures sentn thither by this House are patiently sifted and carefully examined. There is no public assembly at this moment je the empire which enjoys a larger share of the confidenc e ' respect, and gratitude of the religious, moral, and intalligert classes of the community, than the House of Lords.",., (Cheers, and some laughter.) That body is looked L l l l .l as the main bulwark of the national church, and the ch barrier against revolutionary encroachment. The isT° P. Lord tells us that he wishes these amendments to be c OO sidered cautiously and dispassionately. I do not kn n '' whether he has seen this day a letter from an Hon. Gre l :, tleman, lately a Member of this House ; but I beg leal e „s read an extract or two from it.—(Cries of " All," " 11 " e r it all.") He sa y s , " I wish to know whether the British people are ready to submit in quiet and without rercT iv strance to the irresponsible, and therefore despotic, Ol e rity of that assembly, or will they now join with me to rae t ., the Union real, by insisting, in a voice too distinct to misunderstood, and too loud to be neglected, upon ant°,.yr ganic change in that assembly, such as has become an t • lutely necessary for the consolidation of a real union tween both countries, and for the advancement of g ° l 3l Government in each." Upon this point I agree 111 13 , Mr. O'Connell.—(Hear, hear, hear.) I am q uite CO d . vinced that what he is pleased to call justice to Irelbe can never be accomplished without an organic change 1 ho . House of Lords. There is not a single man there w h ia will suffer himself to be controlled or intimidated W hic h Majesty's Ministers, and it is luckily not an assentßY W i'ho they have it in their power to dissolve.—(Cheers.) ct ia Hon. Gentleman to whom I have alluded told his enn- ie tuents that it was his intention to give all the suprftder his power to the present Government, and they ha ve b e tified themselves with him ; therefore I shall be gla d to es informed whether the sentiments I have just read meet informed whether the sentiments I have just Lead the with the concurrence of Ministers?—Laughter( from :ia Ministerial benches.) I think I have a right to ask, te what is more, a right to know. I call upon them to std 4, whether they are prepared to force this measure the other House of Parliament, by effecting an orge change in that assembly, without which I am perfectly- cio:ity vinced that the fortitude and intrepidity of that asseT h j e can never be overcome. There are Members now wi n ' ila hearing, who last session said a good deal about a Re r , ° _ of the House of Lords. They then gave certain ple_nos' which they have never since redeemed. The Order-ba!, , is now upon the table, pen and ink are within their rerua:P_ , and I shall be most happy to see any Hon. Gentle_ as: enter a notice upon the subject ; out of doors they l" constantly talked of it—from morning till night, and fig°, night till morning —but here the question is passed ov most cautious silence. The Order-book is nearer to his Ma th roungii: jesty's Attorney-General than to any other Men" the and I should be glad to see a motion emanate fror . o ttie , Right Hon. Gentleman for making an organic change pees,„ House of Lords.—(Cheers and laughter.) In one r es i P e _ll it must be confessed that Ministers have shown vvon,nel4; dexterity ; they have contrived to muzzle and manacle Radicals—(Much laughter)—we now neve r hear one Isg." , of their peculiar opinions, nor of their peculiar motionu_vo , see an Hon. Gentleman opposite (we believe the t . 1 . 11 : . 1 ,,,h was to Mr. Wakley) who seems to have been struc.ke_;:o a political paralysis ; his mouth has been drawn e nti t r I one side—(Cheers) —and his tongue has refused o n C L charge its duty in complaining of superfluous patro !E s ; and denouncing Ministerial profusion.—(Laughter.) state of things reminds me of what I once heard of r l _ o 7„, Indian jugglers in this town. Those distinguished c and allow them to twist and twine about their arms , 1, el in , m pten , jurors would take a whole basket full of boa constricitooLS: , and even their necks, but if any byestander atte Now Ministers, although no conjurors, havemanaged F touch them he was stung to the quick for er lo tame the Radicals, and to make them twist a nd twin e b t ,t about their necks ; their embraces were quite pater . 1.„ 4. , If other Dina nobody else could enjoy the same privilege. - . H o use sters had brought in the very same measures, .tpe n 0 ,. would never have heard the last of the op on debate, at:45Cl Radicals ; there would have been debate upon e , L ,t be division upon division ; but when they were introdue uiesee .°t " dit . present Ministers the Radicals remained p erfectly and the left wing of the Ministerial pha lanx w as ea su cl obere fit s in as the right. Accordingly they produced two the the 1 1 . 1 5/1 particular—the Irish Municipal Reform Bill a nd There its the , long as the House of Lords remains as it is. log later) and • Church Bill. Neither can become the law of the land 95 great safeguard of the con stitution—(C heers• change," can we be deprived of that safegutard. r T r c n ons ia t e o r and never, without what Mr. O'Connell calls au 0 1:g a t eat reason I shall resist such a change to the las t , le 1 . n hero, me - „,: ti ) the House of Lords the only barrier a establishment of Popery in Ireland—O s thecs, I should be glad to know how Minister think of Lords, which, overpower the majority in the House . _ of t ho re, • tly to the s t atis act.' n highly to their credit, and greatly ha v i re . the country, who wish well to the institutions of .„, e a P fused to join in their revolutionary projects, ga.in:ar,the C1,0111:-arle ek - 411, IF -a N THE SUN, IRON -V ON, FRIDAY, MAY 20, 186.