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FRIDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE. WHITEHALL, JULY 17, 1444. The Queen has been pleased to present the Rev. Alexander Silver to the church and parish of Dunnottar, in the presby tery of Fordoun and county of Kincardine, vacant by the transportation of the Reir. Alexander Irvine, late Minister th'reof, to the church and pariskof Peterhead. CROWN-OFFICE, JULY 19. SIEMBEIS RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT. Borough of Birmingham—Richard Spooner, Esq., in the room of Joshua Scholefield, Esq., deceased. ADMIRALTY, JULY 12. r;orps of Royal Marines—First Lieutenant P. T. M. Payne to • Captain, vice Brevet Major H. B. Mends, deceased ; s eeon 4 Lieutenant G. Drury to be First Lieutenant, vice Payne, ,p romoted— Conoakum by the Lord L i eutenant of Leicestershire. Lieost, 4rshire'Regiment of Militia—Captain and Adjutant H. F. Haw. from the Queen's Own T ower H am l e t s R eg i. merit . of m i :atia, to be Adjutant, vice Deakin, deceased, March - 22. Lord Lieutenant of the West Ridi ng o f Commission by • t'qo . •- - : ' Yorkshire. First Weil Ai l e m orit of 'Yorkshire Yeomanry Cavalry—G. Sitwell, ksq., to be Captain, vice Lord Howard, resigned ; Cornet D. Nisbett to b.° Lieutenant,. vice Swann, resigned ; W. Fowler, 'Gent., to be Cornef,'. vice Nisbett, prompted, July 13, 1844. Commission! , by the Lord Lieutenant 'of the County of Ayrshire. Ayrshire Regiment of'Yeamanry Cavalry—Regimental Ser ieant-Major A. B. Calvert, from the 2d Dragoon Guards, to be Adjutant's Adjutant A; B. Calvert to be Cornet; Rev. J. C. Jamieson tp be Chaplain, 'vice the Rev. J. M'Leod, D.D., deceased, July 10.• . • WHITEHALL, JULY 10. The Lord Chancellor has appointed R. Fulford, of Exeter, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of WHFl'EHAttrltinrit The flight Hon. Sir Nicolas Conyngharn Tindal, Knt., Lord Chief Justice of her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas, has a ppointed John Lyon Foster • of Hertford, in the county of _H e rtford, Gent., to be one o f Perpetual Commissioners for taking the acknowledgments of deeds to be executed by married women, under the Act; passed• for the Abolition of fines and re coveries, and for the substitution of mere simple modes of assur &nee, ,in and for the county of Hertford. BANKRUPTS. THOMAS, HARVEY,. innkeeper, Wandsworth, to sur render July 29, at two, and Aug: 28, at eleven, at the Court .of Bankruptcy. Groom, official assignee, Abehurch-lane, Loin- Joarri-street ' • Bird, Lincoln's Inn-fields. WILLIAM TR UTCH, china clay merchant, Bermondsey, July 25, at two, and Aug. 31, at eleven, at the Court of Bank roptey. Green, official assignee, Aldermanbury; Cooke, Half goon-street. J OIES SMITH and HENRY TITFORD; engravers, Snow-. Fill, City, July 25, at eleven, and August 31, at twelve, at the Co,. rt of Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Sambrook vout, A m i n , ball-street; Jenkinson, Cannon-street, City. CHARLES. COPE, wine -merchant, Edgbaston, Warwick.; Aug,3 ana "Sept. 3, at eleven, • at the Birmingham Dis trict Court. Bittles!on, official assignee,. Birmingham;- Reece; Birmingham. B,EN:JAMIN• I.J.AVRISON HUNTER, merchant, Liver psol,half-past eleven, at the Liverpool District g-vact....Turner, nalcial assignee, Liverpool ; Gregory , and. Co. Jiedrprd f rolv, LoncOn ; Littledale and Bardswell, Liverpool,. JOHN“aiiRUTHERS, .-linendraper; Blackburn, Lanca shire, A 144 2 and 29, at twelve, atehe Manchester District Court. 4taaway, official assignee, Manchester;' Milne, Parry, and: Morris, Temple, London; Wilding and Fisher, I.Macktorn. . . NOTICES .OF INSOLVENCY. Z. ,Nlorton, Winchester-row, Paddington. ' • • s. Li'DOX, sail-maker, Liverpool. . J. Firtb, clothier, Leeds. . , 0. Leach, green-grocer, Bingley, Yorkshire. • ' J. Groom, cabinet-maker, St. Clement, Oxfordshire. n or . J. ,Williams, clerk, Grove.road, Mile-end-road. T. Greenwood, dealer in woollen-flocks, Halifax, Yorkshire. B. Rushbrook, veterinary-surgeon, Rayleigh, Essex. C.'Bantpton, collar-maker, Woolwich. N. Brawn, governess, Brighton. ' j..nredeii, shoemaker, Liverpool. J . L ineyn, herness-maker, Redbnrn, Hertfordshire, - '7,r. E.\ Thomas, hair-dresser, Bristol. .1, Cherr sr, joiner, Stockport, Cheshire. ..1 Rnbso-rOh n tcher, Manchester. . 21,1erris,,\ork-butcher, Manchester. • • W. Wagstaff, eabinet-maker, Liverpool. H. Glazebrook, .. 6 ach-rnaker, Long-lane, Bermondsey. J. Sherwood, statjck' gr, CarterJstreet, Walwort h. W. C. Fuller, green-g .:rocer, George-street, Oxford street. • G. Rownsley, wisterrnan. Smith, Yorkshire. 13. Roffe, baker, Millbrools, Bedfordshire. C. Sewell, shoemaker, Gestit:gtherpe, Essex. C, Bevill, attorney, Cambridge. • .. J. Lamb, deputy goal-weigher, Globe-terrace, ern omermal-rd. G. Newman, usher, Ealing, Middlosex. J. Massey, tailor, -Kidderminster, Worcestersh ire. 'l'. Fancy, licensed victualler, Hear-yard, Linceln'e• Intl.:fields. T. Friend, catitneUrniker - , - CanterburV. ' -It Kni h ttii,..buteher, John-street, Edgeware.rnad. t.. 1.4 4..... jCirighana, clerk, King Ed . .vard-st., Blackfriars. rsi, trontant, Bristol. 7, ~...., , m,,shi l , - W right, vr Gat9ombe, Gloucestershire. • i I • Srutth, s h ot , -man, Bowling-green-buildings, New-road. ' - -1. flurge., j un ...,othoemaker, Southwold, Suffolk. l'.. Seosona., b a k or ,,,,. ickmansworth, Hertfordshire. J. Cherrinaan; dexV, l st, Wells-street, - Marylebone. r A. Wood ro ff e , 11.4... Z • St. Edmunds, Suffolk, ~... J . - . •.3 -(- , 1 . at, .....k., 0 ~,,, Halifax, Yorkshire. N,.......-,........-?..-ZSysden r jae,,Tstet !.green, Maidstone. ,Y ? Bainpridist, j en., boot-maker, Fenchurch-street, City. .awlei4er, car p en ter, ,llorsemonger-lane, Southwark. 11.1. Bur , is o folk. gess, itch ~f. : (. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. T. Denman, tailor, Newman-street, Marylebone. THOM THE EVEN/NG PA PERS OF YESTERDAY. A. Mozoomdar, Bristol. GLOBE.—The ex c l us i on o f M r. T . D uncom b e f rom W. Dann, general agent, Twemlow-terrace, West Hackney. the House of Com mons P ost - o ff ice C omm i ttee was not C. S. Causdell, stationer's assistant, Mount-ten., Whitechapel, J. J. Shotbolt, publican, Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire. meeely ungracious to the individual ; it was also injuri- T. P. Sperring, blacksmith, Binegar, Somersetshire. oils to the public interests. We scarcely remember a J. Wilson, wheelwright, York. previous instance of it:Meiitber of Parliament who moved T. Burnley, silk dealer, Anchor-street, Bethna'-green. for the appointment of a Committee, which he obtained, J. Morriss, tinman, Highgate. being excluded from the constitution of the CoMmittee. J. Formby, wheelwright, Sephton, Lancashire. The information which Mr. Thomas Duncombe had E. Weed, bricklayer, Judd,salesman, Tu Kensall rnmill-street New-t own, Clerkenwell. wn, Chelsea. collected, and the witnessed'on whose evidence the W. charges he brought against J. Watson, hosier, Brudenell-place, Sho r edit c h. _Sir James Grahalp, with ) 0 Capon s , wire -drawer, Farringdon-street, Holborn. reference to his warrants for the detention and- . Green, coachmaker, Semer, Suffolk. - opening of letters passing through the Post-o ffi ce, J. Bennett, cabinet-maker, Swansea, Glamerganshire. were to be sustained, rendered his services as a mem• R. S. Kersey, cabinet-maker, Ipswich. ber of the Committee most important, if not essen- R. Smith, saddler, Sudbury, Suffolk. tial to the ostensible object for which the inquiry was N. Stebbing, painter, Bury St. Edmund's. directed t 6 be made. Supposing the object of the J. Saffhill, farmer, Hillingdon, Middlesex. Government, in asseiteinriti Ons inquiry, to be honest, G. Willoughby, plumber, St. Alban's. the exehrsalaitSt Mr. Duticombli from the Committee was W. Fearn, clerk, Lyon's Inn, St. Clement Danes. most unfortunate~'.' BiifTif theL design of his exclusion A. Pyle, Great Yarmouth. was to shut out information, by preventing the indivi- ' Clark trimming ma nu f ac t urer , Elder - st., Norton-folgate• dual best acquainted with the case from taking part in W. F. Perkins, broker, aler, V ine-street, Liverpool. Hatton-garden. the investigation, then the purpose has been accomplished. M'Cabe, provisi on de aler, The proceedings of the House of Commons l as t even - SECOND NOTICES. J. Mitchell, wheelwright, Nine-elms-lane, Battersea, July 23, ing go to illustrate the injury which the public at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, official interests, involved as they are in the efficiency of the assignee. inquiry, have already sustained through being de- W. Facon, Gloucester-terrace, Chelsea, July 23, at twelve, preyed of the services of the Hon. Member for Fins- at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee. bury, as a member of that Committee. Mr. Duncombe J. Roberts, jun., victualler, Mapes-street, Bethnal-green, made a statement to the House as to the course adopted July 23, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. by the Committee toward himself. The Honourable assignee.Edisivaris,Arctial, Lieutenant-Colonel in the Royal M nes, Member was summoned by it, and appeared before it. Hill street, ur ß o r n ompton,July 23, at eleven, at the Court an of He was asked whether be had any statement to make, Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee. or any information which he wished to lay be- J. Eyrea, smith, Great Alie-street, Whitechapel, July 23, fore the Committee ? Here plied, that he had at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee. charges which he was in a situation to sub- G. F. S. Gillard, grocer, Commercial-road, Lambeth, July stantiate by evidence, relative to the detention and 23, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, official opening of letters at the Post-office. The Committee, assignee. upon this, asked f or hi s li st o f w i tnesses. " We will S. Blanchard, Charles-street, Chelsea, July 23, at one, at send for the parties, and ascertain, by an examination the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee. conducted by ourselves, the evidence they can supply J. Santer, sen., hop dealer, Devonshire-buildings, South in support of the cha rges y ou a ll ege. Y ou, Mr. Dun- i l assignee, wark Jul 23, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, combo, may withdraw. Lea ve th e w h o l e a ff a i r to our officia J. Johnson, barman, Coburg-place, Camberwell, July 23, management. We will not trouble you further." The at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official Committee, according to Mr. Duncombe's statement, assignee. was very courteous, and even " coaxing," in its de- E. Briden, gardener, Flask-walk, Hampstead, July 25, at meanour ; but declined his off er , w hi c h h e presse d upon two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, official assignee. them, to allow him to examine his own witnesses. L. R. Mackintosh, Cleeve, Gloucestershire, July 23, at :The Committee even refused to allow him to be pre- eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee. sent while the examination of these witnesses was con- I. Nutman, brick-maker, Hillingdon, Middlesex, July 31, at ducted by the members of the Committee; The latter eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Johnson, official assignee. refusal was grounded en lack of power in th e C om - Ju _T. Bethell, ta i l o r, G rea t Ch ar l o tt e - s t ree t, Blackfriars-road, mittee to grant that permission. But on a form a l a p- usiy 245, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bel c h er , o ffi cia l gnee. plication being made by Mr. Du ncom b e t o the Corn- J. Mahony, chee semonger , U n i on - s t ree t, iS out h war k, J u l y mittee, that,a formal application be made hy it to the 25, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official House to allOw of his being present, he was requested assignee. to withdraw ; and on being again admitted, he was H. Hart, steel pen-manufacturer, Napier-street, Heaton, informed that the Committee declined to make such July 25, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, an application to the House. The correctness of official assignee. Mr. Duncombe's statement was admitted by Lord M. Leach, innkeeper, Longdendale, Cheshire, July 26, at Sandon, the chairman, and other members of twelve, at the Manchester District Court. Stanway, official the Committee, Who were present in the House. ' assenee. T. Hancock, July 25, at cock, butcher, Stretford, Lancashire, Lord Sandon, indeed, was willi ng t o conce d e the twelve, at the Manchester District Court. Stanway, official presence of Mr. Duncombe during. the examine- „w ane ,. tion of his witnesses by the Committee, if the House W. Westfield, butcher, Randwick, Gloucestershire, July 26, would consent. But Sir R. Peel would not hear of such at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton, official as an invasion of the " ruleS of the House" and the "gene- signee. ral practice with regard - to air Committees of the sort." J. W. Wood, Birmingham, July 25, at half-past ten, at the To take theexaminatioii of the witnesses out of the hands Birmingham DistrietCourt. Christie, official assignee. -of the Committee would imply a want of confidence by E. Seale, Clehonger, Herefordshire, July 27, at half-p as t the, House in the Committee of its 'selection ; while to ten, at the Birmingham District Court. Whitmore, official permit a Member of the Muse, who was not a Member " si g n "' of the Committee, to be present during the inquiry, would be to destroy the - secrsy imposed on the Com mittee in•-the investigation with which if was intrusted. " Ile (Sir R. Peel) should therefore advise the House to adhere in this case ao the general practice with re te- Courrnitteee of . this sort. It was now a specs. , . - . Qa c., t in e t: . of conSdeace in the Committee." The presence of Mr. Buncombe—whether as a• member of the .ce,Mmi ttee,. or as an. examiner of the witnesses he hag . , tioll.:Tted, and as manager of the case in which the public is sa deeply interested, and which he de elares ._ha is in a position to establish—is refused. The complexion which the proceeding now' wears is :anything but healthy.. We were disposed to hope the t the GoVerninent, driven by very shame to concede in spiry, ttesuld have kept up aepearances with the pubii,., an t : afforded every facility for rendering the result satis facte,T-7-at least, that no, impediment would. have beet: iaterposa. l to thwart investigation, and . to prevent a full di;e very o;J:l4ns. The fair examination of all the w it nesaue Irought forward by Mr. Buncombe, was essential 10 produce :his desirAle ettect. STA ",lhornea Duncombe last night M ade a .bold ette , t, to be admiged to the sittings of the Comelittea opon the Post-office, and in doing so, 'oh. proof of, die pray .:nee . of his original exclu , si „ Shat hely. li'qr d oes Mr. Buncombe wan , to the siftiugs•of the Secret Committee ? If it is not to . p.'vent rocerdingi being secret, we are at a loss to coujecore . a motive. The Member for Fins bury ia not ealliclect, with any excess of modesty, but surely even he will i.ot pretend that the gentlemen composing die CominitV' areasa qualified by experience, intengeace, and integrity. to - coaduct the delicate ingeiry confided to them, without hiS help ?, Ile says, indeed, that he has witnesses to produce, whom it isnecessary for himself to examine in person ; but witnesses who can give testimony only to their own selected e .:aininer are witnesses who may as well be dispensed w i t h. The duties assigned to the Secret Committee are in all r.,spects analogous to the duties of a grand jury, but what would be thought of a prosecutor insisting upon adrnis!ion to a grand jury -room, on the plea that lie roust exan ,ine his witnesses in person ? We, how ever, perfectly understand Mr. T. Buncombe—he knows that his case has broken down, and he is now demand ing what it is impes.iible to concede ; laying the founda tion of a grievance, !which may serve him as a door of escape from his groundless and most trumpery charges. DIVIDENDS. At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street. E. Arnatt, baker, Oxford, Aug. 10, at one—W. Dunnage and I. Dunnage, plumbers, Tooley-street, Surrey, Aug. 10, at half-past one. In the Country. J. Ulyatt, cattle-dealer, Crowland, Lincolnshire, Aug. 10, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court—C. Pearsall, boiler-maker, Anderton, Cheshire, Aug. 14, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court—E. Fozzard, dyer, Saddleworth, Yorkshire, Aug. 15, at (me, at the Manchester District Court. CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be shown to the contrary, on the day herein-mentioned. , W. Smith, printer, Strand, Aug. 9—J. Clark, draper, Abington, Cambridgeshire, Aug. 12—J. Smith, spirit-mer chant, Warwick, Aug. 12--E. Reeve, fruiterer, Liverpool, Aug. 9—S. Brothers, currier. Newcastle-under-Lyme, Aug. 9 —C. Twining, Peckham, brewer, Aug. 9—E. Arrowemith, mercer, Burnley, Lancashire, Aug. 9—W. W. Mansell, bill ,broker, Alfred-street, Bedford-square, Aug. 9—J. Slack, fil tering,-machine-maker, Manchester, Aug. 9—II. Goerta, up holsterer, New Windsor, Berkshire, Aug. 9. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. T. Barton, H. Burton, and J. Burton, builders, Aldersgate. street, City, as far as regards J. Burton—T. Lightwood and W. Pa)ne, farmers—C. W. Toulmin and W. Jones, livery table-keepers, South Island-place, Clapham-road—T. Ste venson and W. Hickinbotham, linen-cirapers, Leicester—J. Crowther and F. Oldroyd, yarn-manufacturers, Birstall, York shire—J. Harris, F. Harris, and A. Harris, flour-dealers, Lirerpcol—J. 'lbompson and R. Webster, tea-dealers, Black burn, Lancashire—J. Eliott, J. G. Frith, S. Osborne, and J. Viney, merchants, Great St. Helen's, City—J. Cook and R. Grove, tool-makers, Birmingham—G. Gotts, sen., and G. Gotta, jun., farmers, Boughton Malherbe and Elmlcy, Kent —T. Nicholls and E. Gough, snuff manufacturers, Chester— J. B. Dawes and T. Higgins, optical-instrument-manufactu rers, Cornhill, City—C. H. Marks and W. Child, gun makers, Strand—T. Loyd, 11. Buchan, and J. Welch, calico printers, Madehester—J. B. Steward, M.D., and G. W. Daniel, surgeon, Southall-park, Aliddlesex—H. Davies and D. Davies ' contractors, Asylum-road, Old Kent-road—T. Hull and A. Lewis, spirit-merchants, St. Swithin's-lane, City —W. B. Marshall and E. Goldsmith, lace-dressers, Notting hatn—T. 13. Trowbridge and R. Griffin, surgeons, Weymouth. Dorsetshire—M. Anderson and J. Sangster, seedsmen, New ington-butts, Surrey—W. Barker and H. Kuldhe, tea dealers, Liverpool—W. R. Casson and W. Bamfield, book-marblers, Great St. Thomas Apostle, City—H. M. Jeens and M. Nor ris, maltsters, Uley, Gloucestershire—C. Francis and W. Francis, Mark-lane, City—J. Thornley and S. Thornley, bakers, Liverpool—J. Cotterell, sen., and J. Cotterell, jun., tallow-chandlers, High-street, Kensington—A. Huxley and J. W. Buckley, chmists, Newport, Shropshire—T. Baty and H. H. Gibson, spirit-merehants Liverpool—M. A. Nevill, J. D. Nevill, F. Nevill, E. A. Nevill, E. Nevill, and G. Rossell, City. MONEY MARKET and CITY NEWS. FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. CITY, FRIDAY EVENING. TIMES.—The settlement of the Consol account was the chief feature at the Stock Exchange to-day, in the absence of more important business, and the result of the adjustment gave rather a favourable tendency to prices, which previously showed some symptoms of weakness. Money was exceedingly abundant at merely nominal rates, and hence not the least difficulty was experienced in the final arrangement of the business. At the close of the day the market appeared to be very firm. The Illinois bondholders held a meeting to-day to consider the plan proposed by the indebted State for restoring its credit. This plan has been too often set forth under this head, in every stage of negotiation be tween the interested parties on both sides, to need a description now. The result of the meeting was, that a resolution was unanimously carried, approving of the scheme, and recommending all holders of Illinois bonds to subscribe to the funds required for the completion of the canal. This proceeding, according to the opinion of the meeting, was absolutely necessary to secure the early restoration of credit. The East India and China Association have published their comparative statement of the number of British ships, with tonnage, entered inwards and cleared out wards from and to places within the limits of the East India Company's charter, from the Ist of January to the 30th of June in the years 1843 and 1844. The statement of vessels entered inwards shows that the number arriving at the port of London during that period was an increase of ten vessels, with 6,084 tonnage, compared with 1843, there being 280 vessels, with 116,632 tonnage, in the former six months, and 270 ves sels, with 110,548 tonnage, in the latter six months. In the case of Liverpool, the increase was only two vessels, with 710 tonnage, the number of vessels arriving in the first six months of 1843 being 85, with 36,821 tonnage, and in the same period of 1844, 87, with 37,031 tonnage. The ports of Bristol and Hull show an increase of five vessels, with 1,915 tonnage, the number in 1843 having been 9, with 2,982 tonnage ; and in 1844, 14, with 4,197 tonnage. The Clyde and other ports show a de crease of two vessels, with 2,046 tonnage, 27, with 9,868 tonnage, having arrived in 1843, while in 1844, 25 ar rived, with 7,822 tonnage. A general revision of the entries inward shows a total increase in the first six months of 1844 over the same period of 1843 of 15 vessels, with 6,663 tonnage. The chief increase has been in the arrival of vessels from China, Singapore, the Philippine Islands, and New South Wales, while there has at the same time been a consi derable decrease in the arrivals from Calcutta. The clearances outwards show an increase in the arrivals at the port of London of 38 vessels, with 12,545 tonnage, in 1844, compared with 1843, the re spective numbers in the six months being 233 vessels, with 92,459 tonnage, and 195 vessels, with 79,914 ton nage. Liverpool shows the large increase of 87 vessels, with 30,390 tonnage, the numbers being 117 vessels, with 45,371 tonnage in 1843, and 204 vessels, with 75,761 tonnage, in 1844. Bristol also shows an increase of 18 vessels, with 4,522 tonnage, only 1, with 367 ton nage, having arrived in the first six months of 1843, whereas 18, with 4,522 tonnage, arrived in the first six months of 1844. The Clyde and other ports show an increase of 10 vessels, with a decrease of 555 tonnage, the arrivals in the first six months of 1844 being 89 ves sels, with 28,947 tonnage ; and in the first six months of 1843, 79 vessels, with 20,502 tonnage. A general review of the clearances shows a total in crease in the first six months of 1844 over the same period in 1843 of '153 vessels, with 46,902 tonnage. The increase includes 44 vessels for Calcutta, 15 vessels for Bombay, 24 vessels for the Mauritius, 87 vessels for the Cape of Good Hope, and 5 vessels for the South Seas. In the clearances for New South Wales the great de crease of 20 vessels is to be noticed. SUN.—The settlement in the Consol market has left the prices at 99+ for nteney, and 99* for the 29th August. The heavy investments remained as in the morning, the Old Three-and-a-Half per Cents. being marked 1021. South Sea Stock was at 114 i, being scarcely so high as last week. The Foreign market offered no feature beyond what we reported in the morning. Spanish Actives were 23k to and the Three p. , r Cents. an. Colombian brought 13* to 14. The additional transactions have been these:—Bir mingham and Derby were 31; Chester and Holyhead,*; Lancaster and Carlisle, ; Brighton, 2* ; and Midland ex-dividend 1 discount. Great North of England have been 1 ; Great Western Half, 324 ; Ditto Fifths, 11k ; Hull and Selby. 9 ; Birmingham, 1241 to 126 ; Norwich and 13randon, 6* ; South-Eastern, 3* ; Orleans, Tours, and Bordeaux, 1* ; Paris and Orleans, ex-div., 18k ; and Paris and Rouen, 18* premium ; Birmingham and Glouttever k discount to par. Provincial Bank of Ire land Shsres ex-div., 191 premium. In the Foreign exchanges there was a decline to-dm) upon Antwerp, Paris, llambprgh, and Trieste, Frank. fort being about the tame as last post-day. servations, which went no farther than that if the array were: made in the way which Mr. Hill stated it must be fraudulent ; but that he could not judge of that, as he knew nothing of the facts, which should have been:de cided by the Court of Queen's Bench. Lord BROUGHAM concurred in the observations of his Noble and Learned Friend on the Woolsack, ar.d said that nothing could justify the use which the Irish papers had made of the misrepresentation. Lord CAMPBELL said that his Noble and Learned Friend on the Woolsack was perfectly right in making to the House the explanation which he had made. But he (Lard Campbell) must say, that when this subject came before the House he should differ from the opinion of his Noble and Learned Friend, and that he thought the Attorney-General was not justified in going to trial as he did, nor until the whole book o f the j ury-list had been gone through, and the defendants had a full chance of a fair trial. Lord COTTENHAM said that the statement in the Morning Chronicle was incorrect, as had been properly shown by his Noble and Learned Friend • but the mis apprehension of the writer wa s very excusable, when the difficulty of a law argument, even to a lawyer, was con sidered. The conversation then dropped. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. Mr. GREENN and others from the Commons brought up the Unlawful Oaths Bill (Ireland), the Soap Duties Bill, the Party Processions Bill (Ireland), the Farm building Burnings Bill, the Loan Societies Bill, and nu merous other Bills, which were severally read a first time. THE POST-OFFICE INQUIRY. A further message from the Commons communicated the permission of the Commons to Lord J. Russell to attend before their Lordships' Committee. The Earl of RADNOR had seen it stated in some of the newspapers that he had consented to have his name omitted from that Committee. He thought it right to say that he felt he ought to have been on the Committee. The Duke of WELLINGTON had supposed that the list which he had proposed for the Committee was uni versally approved of. CORN-LAWS. The Earl of RADNOR presented a petition from agriculturists of Wiltshire, complaining of distress, and praying for the repeal of the corn-laws, and all laws against the importation of provisions. Their Lordships had repeatedly denied that there was distress ; and a Noble Lord near him said there was none in Wiltshire, but dm petitioners who resided there were likely to know better than the Noble Lord (Methuen), who seldom visited the county.—(Hear, and a laugh.) Lord METHUEN said he was well acquainted with the county, but he might not know as much of some par ticular persons as the Noble Earl, who went about in every corner searching for statements of distress.— (Hear, and a laugh.) The Duke of RICHMOND presented petitions in fa vour of protection, and said that he would send down a pamphlet to show the true state of the questions to the persons who signed the Noble Earl's (Radnor's) petition from Wiltshire,:but it would be of no use, as many of them could not read.—(Hear, hear.) Earl RADNOR said the petitioners should be allowed to express their opinions of their own interests, although they could not read.—(Hear, hear.) The Duke of RICHMOND had only said that his book would be of no use to them, as they could not read; 'he did not deny their right to petition.—(Hear, hear.) , GREAT SOUTHERN AND WESTERN RAIL- SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. LIVERPOOL RACES.—Th UntiDAY. BETTING ON THE COURSE. UOODWOOD STAKES. 1 12 to 1 agst Crotan Oil. 5 to 1 agst Franchise. 7 to 1 agst Era—taken. CT. LEGER. 7 to 2 agst the Cure 10 to 1 agst Ugly Buck. 7 to 1 agst Bay Mourns. 12 to 1 agst Foig-a ballagh Bto 1 agst Princess (taken). 12 to 1 agst Morpeth. Bto 1 agst Red Deer. 140 to 1 agst Lightning. 9 to 1 agiA Ithuriel. 200 even between Morpeili and Foig-a-ballagh. BROMYARD RACES—WFDNESDA Y. WAY BILL. On the motion of Lord MONTEAGLE, the orders of the day were suspended, and the Bill was read a third time, and passed. The Broxash Stakes were won by Mr. Berriman's Fair Play ; the Hurdle Stakes, by Mr. Bradley's Tantalus ; and the Hack Stakes, by Mr. Bradley's Sweetheart. iIVIPItIitAL PARLIAMENT. SCOTCH SEQUESTRATION. DAVID WILSON, tavern-keeper, Edinburgh, July 25, and Aug. 22, at two, at the chambers of J. Alexander, Edinburgh. DONALD CAMPBELL, merchant, Nairn, July 22, and Aug. 22, at eleven, at Anderson's Hotel, Nairn. PRICE OF SUGAR. The Average Price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, for the week ending July 16, 1844, is 325. 2id. per cwt., exclusive of the• Duties of 'Customs paid or payable thereon on the im portation thereof into Great Britain. T IL SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING,* JULY aO, i 644. ARTS-UNION BILL. Lord MONTEAGLE moved that the House resolve ,self into Committee on this Bill. The Duke of CAMBRIDGE seconded the motion, and bore testimony to the great utility of those institu tions, and to the great spread of taste and skill to which they had given rise among the people. He was a sub scriber to the. London Art-Union, and so were many other Members of that House, and although they had no pecuniary interest in the matter, they were all liable to be sent to prison.—(A laugh.) He should not much grieve for himself, for he would be in good company.-- (Great laughter.) lle thought it would be a great advan tage if the Bill should pass in time to allow exhibitions now open to be taken advantage of for the purposes of the unions. —(Cheers.) The Marquis of. Northampton, the Marquis of Lans downe, and Lord Colborne, supported the motion for vine. into Committee. Lord MONTEAGLE returned his earnest thanks to the Illustrious Duke for the honour he had done him and the service he had rendered to art, by supporting his motion. The Bill then passed through Committee without dis cussion, and was report Ed. The Brighton, Lewes, and Hastings Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. The Aliens Bill passed through Committee without discussion, was reported, and ordered to be printed with the amendments. FEES OF CLERKS OF THE PEACE. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, according to notice, inquired of the Noble President of the Council whether there was an intention to bring in this session a Bill on the subject of the fees. of Clerks of Peace. In referring to the report of the Commission on the state of Wales, it would be seen that, as well as the turnpike tolls, the fees given to the magistrates' clerks ware part of the sources of oppression and causes of discontent. Lord WHARNCLIFFE assured the Noble Lord that the attention of the Government had been directed to this subject, and they would bring it under the conside ration of the House early next session. The Duke of RICHMOND was glad to hear that it was the intention of the Government to bring in a Bill upon this subject. ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSIONERS. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved for a return of all sums under the control of the Ecclesiastical Com missioners of England and Wales, not appropriated to any particular purpose, up to the latest period to which the same could be made up; distinguishing the episcopal fund from that which is appropriated to the augmenta tion of small livings. As the motion was not to be op posed, he would not occupy the House by going at length into the considerations which rendered the re turns necessary. As the question of the union of the dioceses of St. Asaph and Bangor was most likely to come again before the House, he thought it was most desirable to have the information for which he asked; and the more.especially as a Noble Friend of his had . proposed that if one of the bishoprics were suppressed, the fund so saved should be appropriated to the aug mentation of small livings in the diocese. Lord WHARNCLIFFE had no objection to the return. The Duke .of RICHMOND complained of the con duet of the EcClesiastical Commissioners, in not making annual returns of their receipts and expenditure. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE defended the ap pointment of the Commission; on the ground that a more advantageous arrangement of Church property, even for'the holders themselves, could be made. But three years had elapsed since he had the honour of being a - member of that Commission, and he was happy to say, .that whenever its arrangements had been carried into effect, great improvements in favour of the holders of Church land had been effected, and such improvements were spreading. He hoped there would be no delay, on the part of the Commission, in putting an end to uncer tainty everywhere as to the conditions under which all such lands were to be held. HOUSE OF LORDS,, July 19. ROYAL ASSENT. At Four o'clock there was a Commission to give the Royal Assent to certain Bills., The Commissioners Were the Lord Chancellor, Lord Wharncliffe, and Earl Dalhousie. ' • • The following are the Bills which received the Royal AsientL---the Bank of . 'England Charter Bill ; Three4ind4l-Half per Cents. Exemption Bill • Dissen ters' Chapels. Bill ; Customs . Duties (Isle of than) Bill ;. Education Bill ; County Ratea, &c., Bill ; Militia Ballots. Suspeosion Bill ; _Stock in Trade Bill ; Vagrants Re move'. Bill ; . Turnpike Acts Countinuance Bill ; Parishes' .. FATAL OCCUICRENCE.Hrn consequence of the work- , (Scotland)' Bill ; Prisons (Scotland) Bill. ; Charitable men at the Gerscube coalworki, the property of Messrs.. Loan-Soeieties (Ireland) Bill ; • Turnpike cts Continu- Barclay, having been off work on Monday and Tuesday, ance <lreland) Bill.; Edinburgh, Leith, and Granton, on.. the afternoon of the latter day, Mr.. Alexander. Railway Bill ; Ashton, Stalybridge, . and --Li ver p oo l Foulds,, the foreman at the, works, accompanied with Junction Railway Bill ; Sheffield, Ashtonsunder-Lyne, another. person, went down to inspect and see if they and Manchester Railway Bill ; Taff Tale Rail Way Bill ; were free from the carbonic acid gas, or ch o k e Eastern Union Railway 13i11; London and South-Wes clamp,- so that the "men might go down safely on tern' Railway (N 0.1.). Bill.; Garnkirk, . Glasgovi, and the-day foll Owing. .On arriving at the bottom of Ceatbridge Railway:l3M '• • Delabole and. Rock Railway the pit, the air was" at once found in so impure' a . (No. 2) Bill ; Liverpool. Docks Bill ; , Newport Dock state that the" lights went out. ThOtigh this 'took eßill ; Birkenhead . Docks Bill ; Southampton Improve•al place, Mr. rdulds, in his desire to satisfy himself ment Bill ; Coventry Improvement and Cemetery Bill ; further, reSelved to creep along the . floor of the pit, York United -Gas , (No: r 2) Bill ; •Hythe 'Landing Place while his cortiPaniaa waited for him at the bottom of the 13i11 ; - _llolmfirth' end 'Dunford 'Roads Bill ; -M ar k et shaft.. !Jelled not pi -weeded far when he was heard to Harborotigh and Coventry' Road Bill ; Earl of G u ilf or d' s givea moan ; the, man.accompanying ,him immediately Estate Bill ; Necton Tithes Bill; Irvine's EState.Bill went to his rescue, but .before he found him he also was , Stones Estate Bill. . - , , nearly overpowered. He 'found Foulds insensible, and Their Lordships adjourned for a short time, and as being unable eo carry him out, he was obliged to go to' sembled agein, when— • , . the surface for assistatce,' - when every means was taken . Mr. E. James was-called to the Bar,. and addressed tq infuse fresh air late The fet, but it was next morning their. Lordships against • the Gaming BilL • - When the before this 'was accomplishes], so as . to Permit adescent, Learned Gentleman concluded, . • - --- .•. When the sufferer was fOund liteleis.—Seotch paper. . Mr. Russell . was -called -and- examined by Lord , C ltnl3 letroetaaas.-We observe from the Clyde Bill BROUGHAM- 7 i am the attorney in the qyi • tam ac-. of Entry tifSaturday lest; that the foreign :imports into tions ; I was instructed by my clerk ; he is my brother;. the Clyde'during the two preceding days (viz. the 11th he has a salary . of 80/. a ,year; I • brought about 34. and 12th) have been of a very, extensive kind, and larger„ actions; be did not instruct metilll first suggested •to hi m We belie've, than- during any similar period for the last:' to do so;l•expect he will pay me; I do not expect he will three years. They amount to 17 vessels, nine of which pay the entire. Theexpense of one of tho se ac ti ons , if l ost, came to Glasgow, fi ve to Greenock, and three to Port- might be about 1,0004 A gentleman paid 900 Z towards the expenses. Ido not know him ; he did no t instruct Glasgow. They bring cargoes chiefly from our N or th , American Colonies. Amongst them, however, are.three me. }decline. to tell who; he Jae because that 'was com municated to me as an attorney. He i s no t my c li ent. vessels with guano, two from Ichaboe, and one from P au ' de Asucar, containing upwards 1,000 tons of this valu- I knew his ,name, but I decline to give it. able fertiliqer These foreign ships :were accompanied - !Lord BROUGHAM—No privilege will p ro t ect a man by a 'large fleet of . coasters. On the three preceding who is not your client. Come, giv e th e * name. days of same week there were nineteen arrivals from The LORD CHANCELLOR—If yp u d o . not answer Tereign"Portsethat question you .will reflect on the c onsequences . two of the ships, being from Ichaboe, with 1,250 tons of guano.--Scottish Guardian. . , Witness—l,decline to answer, because' it was a privi , INVEBNESS,.. JULY 13.—Our market this year has leged communication. been well attended: Perhaps there never was so large ' Lord BROUGHAM—Did you know the name from ail) , one independent of your client ? M r . R usse ll—l a number of southern dealers present ' • and business has knew it from my client first ; but I k new it f rom ot h er been transacted 'at an earlier period of the market, and sources.—(A. laugh.) ' with ranch less trouble than in former years. The ex- `,tant.of businese and the rate of prices are no less satis- To' the LORD CIIANC4LOR—Never had any communication with the person who paid this m one y, factory and' cheering. The average price of Cheviot wool last week was I ls. per stone, the average price this except ,in the presence of .his brother, and th o u g h t year iabetter , than 16s. Some lots have been sold at that he was justified in refusing to give the name o f that a 75.; and even at 18s. Cheviot wethers from 225. to pe r ' n. 275;, with the exception of two. lots at 295. ' Cheviot Lord BROUGHAM: told the witness that he was not ewes' from a4etos les. ; one lot sold at 17s. Cheviot privileged as •to the unknown person, an d must con sider conseuences.--(Hear, ear.) The lanabs average Bs. 6d., but some lots hive fetched hi g he r prices. Black-faced stock has also sold' well ; the wee' had no the power t o commit hint, but the Hoase had Committee there, have riot adVancedain proportion to the Cheviot; The Duke of RICHMOND asked had he not ad v i se d but owes have been in good demand, at from 7s. to 10s.' has brother not to bring the action in his own name, be cause his character was so tainted? Answer—l thi n k :The weather is highly; favourable, with season a bl e I did.—(Laughter.). • • . Showers, which are bringing on the turnip fields and in that makes the farmers grain crops a manner here Lord BROUG. HAM . submitted to • their • Lordships rejoice., that as the person stuns bar admitted, that the pers on 'ee . . . - " • . • whose name he withheld was not his client, he co u ld CITY , ANTIQUITYES.-;--On Thursday, at the end of !,Little Trinity-lane, Uppa-Thames-street, while the men- not refuse to give the name. were excavating the ground fiat -the formatioe 'of a' sewer, . After some consultation with the Noble and Learned they found a large quantity of humah , and Animal bones, Lord, the Counsel, Mr. James, and -the witness, were and whickwere mixed with the earth for several feet up the ordered to withdraw-from-the bar ; and the witness was lane. During the last fortnight, in Huggin-laneaind Bread- 'peremptorily ordered not to leave the House. street-hill,. being adjoining' to 'Little. Trinity-lane, similar - A conversation ensued of some length, in which several 'excavations are going on,_ when very extensive foundation Noble Lords - took part, respecting the course - to be put--F. walls of Amen construction were met -with,- traversing- sued ; when it was resolved that the witness . Russell be: .Breadf-Streetehill, and passing up the entire length of ordered to attend at the bar, and that in the meantime ' Iluggipslaue, and. Trinity-lane. In some places they were his evidence before the Select Committee and the lionee ~ so strong that they could net be.broken but by the applica- tiou of iron wedges. In other, places they were composed be tinted. P . of chalk- - Several silver and copper Roman coins were also The Witness was accordingly cursed in, and ordered to' found, fragments - of fresco painted walla, square flat tiles, attend. He said—" I will obey your Lordships.”—("Oh,. aboutawelve inches square, with inscriptions on them, and a C of course your will.") . quantity of tasselated, and common Roman _pavement. In THE IRISH "STATE TRIALS' APPEAL. H . this neighbourhood the Commissioners of Sewers for the' The LORD CHANCELLOR wished to call the at • City have contracted, for the erection of about 6,000 feet of lention of - the House to a matter which affected himself se werage- , •• • ' ' - - 'personally, and Which was, however, of some importance 1:10 USE OF COMMONS, July 19. • Tuz PITMEN---Nearly 200 Welsh pitmen arrived" to their Lordships and to public justice. His attention - 1 in this' to wn b y ra il way on T ues d ay even i ng , and on the , was drawn, threugh the medium of one of thelrish Papers, JOINT STOCK COMPANIES' REGISTRATION ifollowing morning they proceeded to the - colleries at ,t o a statement in the Morning Chronicle, that whilst Mr.'` .* ' AND REGULATION BILL. S'eltlir l ithd Heating's Hartley. The old pitmen obsti- niii . wits Arguing u poO th e challenge of the array, (Continued . from our Afternoon. Edition of 'Yesterday-) i.nately adheae to - their NV rOng- headed course, and the e the', Lord Chancellar eaid • that there could be no ,' On elaase 25 being proposed, biting to existing -1. families of man ) o'f' them are encansped in - fields - and . elo t ait' th a t the array was fr a udulent.' . The Morn . - Me- STUART WQRTLEy said this WAS the regis- Lye-ways. The funds 'eppear to benearly exhausted, snq re fur grPups of rneneare,tlaily singing through the. prin. aleal,towns; and. their dress and; appearance belies many Chronic/e. went en to ask, could it be doubted tratien clause,. and important as being the first one re , that a verdict obtained under • fraud so 'admitted by .' the Lord Chancellor of England would- be viewed companies. . He wished • to ask whether ~the measure would affect join-stock mills. Those joint .-of the complaints they. have brought against the coal- I with any other feelings than those of execration ~stock mills were very common in the manufacturing.dis owners. What makes the evil more grievous in a moral •by the people of England ; or •could *any • Ministry , trictee and it was by no means uncommon for the smaller point of view is, that the wome n hav e become beggars,. have the audacity to carry the Sentence into effect, after shareholders to run up accounts and leave their partners and the children paupers.--Newcastle Adverti ser of such a condemnation ? These remarks were printed in to pay Pn. them. If this Bill provided a remedy for that Thursday. • • - . , •• . . • it would 1 large letters in all the Irish papers. He did not blame "evil, be conferring a great boon upon the menu We have authority to state that Lady BroughaM's ' the Writer in' the Morning' Clip onicle, who was misled, !fecturia districts 1 • party, announced for Friday, the lath, takes place on from not understanding what he (the Lord Chancellor) had 4 . Mr. GzADSTONE regretted that, in consequence of Thursday, the 25th instant., I said. Nothing could be further fronithe meaning Of his ob-; the difficulty of' the suleject he had been obligedto post -., . , ....._ . . . , • .... . . , . . . ok«:,,11:.-.:(.41. 51., 1..:... : .ersoe Ina "ss After a fevi words from Lord REDESDALE and from the Marquis Of CLANAJOARDE in reply, the returns were ordered. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' ACT AMEIsIDMENT BILL. • On the.rnotion of Lord BROUGHAM, the Bill passed' through Committee without discussion, and was re ported. 1:, BUTTER AND CHEESE. lOn the motion of the Earl of POWIS, this Bill also passed through Committee, and was reported. - The-Roman Catholic Parish Acts AbolitiOn Bill was read a 'second time,' and ordered' to be committed on Monday. THE COUNTY CORONERS' BILL. The Duke of RICHMOND, in moving the second reading of this Bill ; said that there was one clause intro duced into it to which he would give his utmost opposi tion—that was the payment of an increased amount for the coroners' travelling expenses out of the county-rates. He thought that these expenses ought to be paid out of the consolidated fund. He would, in the Committee on Monday, move the omission of the claaSe. The Bill would diminish the expenses of coroners at elections, and those gentleinen ought not to demand an increased allowance for travelling. • Lord BEAUMONT had intended to oppose the Bill altogether, on account of this clause ; but as the Noble Duke would move for its omission, his objection was greatly diminished: If the clause were retained, be would move that the Bill be read a second time that day six months. The DukeCtf RICHMOND would move the omission of the'clause; but he would 'not bindhimself that the clause would be omitted. If it were not, he Nould vote against,the Billaltogether. It was a money clause, and the,House of Commons mi g ht no t agree to its omission ; and,if not, they would send up another Bill next year. : The Marquis. of NORMANBY defended the clause. The Bill was then read a s e c ond tithe, and ordered t o be committed on. Monday, and the Lcirds satnmoned.. ' THE COLONIAL POST-OFFICE. This Bill was read a Second time. Lord CAMPBELL expressed a that it would not be carried through Committee until anotherßill on the same subject reached the, same stage. - The Linen Manufacturers' Bill (Ireland) was. read A third time and passed. The Transfer of Property Bill was read a second time. Several Bills on the table were advanced a stage. On the motion of the Duke of RICHNIOND, the Se lect Committee on the opening of letters in the Post office were requested to print and lay before -the House the evidence of Mr. Russell. Their Lordships then adjourned at Half-past Seven . o'Clock. pone the consideration of the relative rights of share holders among themselves until next session. In certain respects the Bill would improve the relations between companies and their shareholders, but it would not remedy the evil of which the Hon. Gentleman com plained. There would be facilities of obtaining judg ments against companies, and this he thought would prove very beneficial. Mr. S. WORTLEY had thought it his duty to call the Right Hon. Gentleman's attention to this subject, and he trusted that some steps would be taken with respect to it next year. The clause was then agreed to, as were clauses 26 to 57. The Usher of the Black Rod appeared at the bar, and summoned the House to the bar of the House of Lords, to hear the Royal Assent given by Commission to seve ral Bills (for which see Lords' report). The SPEAKER, accompanied by several Members, then proceeded to the House of Lords. On their return, the House went into Committee, when the remaining clauses were agreed to, and the Bill, with amendments, was ordered to be reported on Tues day next at twelve o'clock. The House resumed. CAPITAL PUNISHMENTS. Mr. BRIGHT presented a petition from the Liverpool Peace Society, praying for the abolition of the punish ment of death in all cases. COURTS OF COMMON LAW. On the motion of Mr. CRIPPS, the Courts of Com mon Law Process Bill, and the Courts of Common Law (Ireland) Bill, went through Committee. The Parish Constables Bill was read a third time. CRIMINAL JUSTICE (IRELAND). Mr. BRIGHT, seeing the Noble Lord the Secretary for Ireland in his place, wished to direct his attention to a case which had occurred at the recent assizes in Ire land. Two women had been lately found guilty of mur der in the county of Roscommon, and were now left for execution on the 31st of this month. The crime was committed in the month of June, 1843, when, on the Co roner's inquest on the body, a verdict of suicide was returned. Since that time, a woman who slept, or said she slept in the same room where the murder had been committed, had given evidence which proved that the man was murdered and then carried out of the room, when his throat was cut, with the intention of making it appear that he had committed suicide. On the trial th e jury deliberated twenty-two hours, and then found the two women guilty of wilful murder; one of them being the wife of the murdered man, and the other her sister. The jury recommended them to mercy; but he was informed that the judge refused to transmit that recommendation to Dub lin. There was reason to believe that the chief witness in the case, was a woman of extremely bad character, and that her evidence was doubtful. Altogether it ap peared that the whole party were in a very low state of civilization, for when the occurrence took place the murdered man and his wife slept in one bed, and the woman who gave the evidence was sleeping with her own father in another bed. The third woman, who was a servant, sleeping in an adjoining room to which there was no door. It appeared that all of them were of a class that rendered it necessary to receive their evidence with great caution. Under all circumstances, it seemed one of those cases worthy the attention of Government. If the man was murdered an inquiry ought to be made into the conduct of the coroner, as it was stated that he examined but one wit ness, and called no surgeon—the inquest being thus of a most unsatisfactory character. Lord ELIOT thought the object of the Hon. Gentle man would have been equally well attained, had he merely called his attention to the matter. He could not help thinking he had rather exceeded the limits allowed in asking questions. He must also observe that the coroner was not accountable to the Government ; at the same time, he could assure the Hon. Gentleman that the circumstances of the trial should have his best attention. PRIVY COUNCIL BILL. Lord HOWICIC said, he observed that the Privy Council Bill stood on the orders of the day for the third reading that evening. He understood that this Bill almost re-modelled the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council, and provided a considerable salary for a chief judge. He wished to ask whether the third reading would be moved that night, and whether the Bill was supported by her Majesty's Government. Sir J. GRAHAM said he had read the Bill, which he did not think the Noble Lord could have done, and he could state that there was no clause in it fixing such a salary. Nor should he (Sir J. Graham) be prepared to support a Bill that would do so. The other arrange ments of the Bill were entirely of a technical nature, and to these the Government was prepared to give its assent. He was therefore disposed to move the third reading ; but if the Noble Lord objected to it, he should not move .it at any hour at which the Noble Lord might be'unable to attend. Lord HOWICK was aware that the clauses fixing the salary were not printed in this Bill, but they were printed in the Bill as it stood in another place. Sir J. GRAHAM said it was not intended to move any clause in that House that was not in the Bill. Lord HO WICK said it was extremely objectionable, that at so late a period of the session, when all the prin cipal gentlemen of the House connected with the legal profession were necessarily absent en circuit, that such a Bill as this should be moved and carried ; they had be fore had experience of the great impropriety of legal bills been brought in and carried through at this late period of the session. Sir J. GRAHAM understood that the Bill had been proposed with the unanimous eopsent of the Judges of the Privy Council ; and under these circumstances, he hoped it would not be opposed. MEDICAL PROFESSION. Mr. PHILIP HOWARD asked the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Home Secretary, if he intended to bring in any Bill for the regulation of the medical pro fession? Sir J. GRAHAM said he still intended to introduce a Bill on this subject, but he would not press it this session. Sir R. PEEL moved that the House at its rising do adjourn till Monday.—Agreed to. SINKING FUND. On the motion of Mr. WODEHOUSE, certain returns relating to the sinking fund were ordered to be made.. BRASSINGTON' INCORPORATION. Mr. COLVILE' gave notice that he should, on Mdn day next, move that it be an instruction to the Committee on-the-Gilbert Unions that they should examine wit nesses from the Brassington Incorporations.. j • •EDUCATION. On the motion that the order of the day be read for the House resolving itself into a Committee of Supply; • Mr. EWART rose for the purpose of calling the at tention of the House to the' expediency of a statemepat being. made by the Government respecting the dispoial and the results •of the outlay of public money voted fit the purl:Rises of. education ; and also to the expe diency of promoting the formation of public libraries in the Metropolis and provincial towns. He was anxious to offer a few observations to the House on ,this subject. In voting the army 'estimates, the navy, estimates, and the. Ordinance estimates, it was _alway - acustomary for those who brought forward those estimates •to make a statement as to the condition of their several departments. He thought that was, a precedent which ought to be followed in bringing forward the esti mates on the subject of education. He thought they ought not only to have a statement as to the general application of the funds, but a statement of the prospects . of each particular. ,department. They should have before them a statement of what had been done in each particular department of educatiqn. They had estimates proposed for var i ous esta b lishments; they had estimates for the Schools of Design, for the Universities, for the National Gallery, and for other in. stitutions of a similar nature. That was an additional reason why they should have a statement on the subject on the part of. the Crown. Education had, of late years, been. extended into the factory system, to the system of prison discipline, and it had formed portions, more or less, of I3ills for the amendment of the poor-l aw . N ow, the Go , , vernment ougnt to give them an insight into the alterations which had taken place in the educational establishments during the past year, and into the prospect of probable ini_proVement. Among th e sites for ed ucation t h ere was one for the School ofDesign, an institution of the greatest .importance to the arts and manufactures, of this country. He rejoiced to observe that these Schools of Deiiign were spreading through 'the manufacturing dis tricts, and he hoped the time was not far distant when the khool in London would be a focus from which the otheihschools might radiate so as to spread information throughthe country. The School of Design in London was gradually assuming a more central and normal character, and he trusted that all the schools in the manufactur ing districts would become 'subordinate to the School of Design in London. - These schools were of the utmost importance, not 'only to the arts, but to the commerce and manufactures of the country. There was also the general vote for education. It was an op probrium to 'the country in general that a vote of 30,0001. only had' been devoted to that purpose, and he understood that this year there would be a reduction on preceding years. Now, it was important that they should have an explanation from the Govern ment as to hoW that sum bad, been divided—whether it had been equally divided among all. religious denomina tions, or. bad ..been confined to the British and Foreign and National •School SoCieties. Before they had left office they had determined to give portions of the grant to certain schools, • without reference• to those two societies. They ought 'to have some explanation on this subject from some :member of the Government. There was another most' important subject on which they ought to have someexplanation. There had been vast sums' left by the piPus bequests of our, ancestors, which had been at first appropriated and afterwards misappropriated, in the grammar schools of the country. That . was a question which must eventually come under the consideration of the Govermennt. They ought to state annually what steps had been taken to place those schools on a proper foundation: He knew not why education, the most important of all things, the preventative of crime, that which ought to be antecedent to all other improvements, should not receive the first consideration of any Government in this country, yet that had hitherto, been the last. They had had no statement made by a Minister of the Crown on the sub-' ject of education ; yet, in despotic Gover nments, an an nual report was always laid before the Minister of the Crown he serves. He maintained that it would be better for the public and more constitutional, if her Majesty's Government adopted the plain English mode of giving fall explanation on the subject. , lie was aware that this was a subject to be, approached with delicacy in a free country like England. He believed it wou ld b e strictly impossible to make education -in this country a strictly Govermental Measure, but though they could not con-,' trol the education of the peopl e o f t hi s country they might do much to •assist it. lye was always of opinion, that though' the people of this country in education :would not submit to control, yet that much might be done to forward it. He thought it a disgraceful thing that there was no public library in this country ; there, was no other nation in which such institutions did not .exist, In this. country, with the exception of the British Museum, there was no library that could be called a national library. In Paris there were no less than five public libraries which were open to every class of society from the highest to the lowest, and to the subject of every country. There were four other libraries that were admissible to the public among which were the magazine library and the library of the arsenal, In Russia there were also libraries, all of which were opened to the public. In Saxony there were also public libraries, several of which were in Dresden : and even in Turkey itself, showing that that country 'was before England in that respect.--(Hear, hear.) Even the British Museuat was not open to the poor man and the citizen, as were the libraries of Paris, for it was necessary to procure an introduction, in order to be admitted into it. He thought that the two propositions which he made were reasonable, and he believed they would be finally assented to. He firmly believed that, if her Majesty's Government took the matter into their serious Consideration, they would not only do a great deal of good, but would obtain a great deal of public panegyric.—(Hear, hear.) , . Lord - HOWICK said he concurred in much of what had fallen from the Hon. Gentleman. He believed that much remained to be done, in the way of provid ing the means of education for the people of this country, because as their population increased in density the facilities of misleading them also increased. It seemed to him to be a source of considerable danger, that great masses- of- the population were 'growing up without any due means of instruction or information.—(Hear, hear.) He agreed with the Hon. Gentleman; that it was not desirable that education should be made a Go vernment measure. There was not its this country suf ficient of • mutual toleration among-the religious bodies into which.' the population was - divided, to ren der it possible that anything like a system of education being formed with advantage, and in this he ,thought the. Dissenters were as much- to' blame as the Church, and the Church as much as the Dissenters. He thought the Government judged wisely, after the failure of last year, in not renewing a similar experiment again. • But he thought they had experience enough to, prove that the Government could 'do a great deal to stimulate education without even a Legislative enactment. What . they should aim at was to create a "degire for education amongst the people, and to enable parents to distinguish good schools from bad schools. What he should suggest was, that there should be a partial examination of the children of different schools by examiners, to be • appointed by the Government, who would give certificates to those who answered best. Though there might be some - difficulty at first in getting the children to attend, he thought that a great change would very soon take place in that respect, wh en they perceived what great advantage was derived from the possession of certificates. They .all knew how earnestly the inferior situations of the lower departments - of the public service were "coveted by persons in the lower ranks of life ; and if a small number of situations, such as those of tide-waiters. or -excisemen, were made the prizes for proficiency at the public examination, it would be very beneficial. This, he was convinced, would make these examinations very successful. By a small sacrifice of patronage on the part of the Government an immense advantage might be obtained. He could not but think that a small portion of the Government grant for education would be well applied in giving rewards to those schoolmasters who proved themselves worthy of them. He believed that a comparatively. small sum thus applied would go further than anything else to raise , the general standard of the qualification of public schoolmasters. He believed this to be a most important subject, and one well worthy the attention of the Governtnent. A short pause here ensued, and no one rising to ad dress the House, The SPEAKER proceeded to the next order on the paper, which related to THE STATE TRIALS. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said, that as the opinion of the Judges had not yet been delivered respecting the trial of Mr. O'Connell and others, he would postpone until another supply -day the question for an addreis to her Majesty, praying her Majesty to release the prisoners. Mr. WYSE then addressed the House, and hoped that the Government would not let the observations of hiS Noble Friend pass without expressing what their feel ings were on this important subject. Sir R. PEEL said he did not think the motion of the Hon. Gentleman contemplated the appointment of a separate Minister to preside over the department of public education. There would be difficulties in the way of such an appointment, but the object might be ef fected by the constitution of a department from the office that presided over the internal department of the country. At the same time the duty at present devolved on a part of the Government which paid great atten tion to the subject ; and he believed as much was ef= fected by the Committee of the Privy Council. He held in his hand -the report of this body for the year 1843, and he recommended Hon. Members to make themselves acquainted with its contents. He thought they were too much in the habit of making motions for the production of reports on different subjects while the did not make use of all the information already in their possession. This report 'contained a mass of most mi nute information, and before fresh particulars were pressed for he would recommend Hon. Members to make' themselves acquainted with what was before them al ready. The work had been thrown into a form more tempting than a blue book.—(Laughter.) He hoped before they proceeded to make any new appointments or give new salaries, they would afford a fair trial to the present superintending body. 'There was an annual vote from the House applied to the purposes of education,. and, according to the demands of the country, the Go, vernment would call for an increase of that vote, perfectly certain that the House would respond to that just de mand. In "one point be fully concurre d w i t h t h e N o b le ' Lord. lie believed that if some of the subordinate patronage of the. Government were applied as a reward to young persons of merit, educated in schools at the public expense, he was certain that the loss to a Go vernment—mould -be- amply compensated. It was the duty of all Governments to strengthen the foundations .on which good governments must rest; and nothing eould more conduce to this effect than the applying a portion of the subordinate patronage of the Go vernment in the manner he had stated. There might be some difficuly in the way of appointing young personi immediately to situations in the revenue, on account of / the early age at"whie4 they quitted the schools, but if at were possible tp effect it, vtlie application of this por -tion of the patronage , of the Government would he advantageous andbeneficial. There was great jealousy among the people against Government interference with 'education. It denoted great independence of spirit. Let them not blame it too hastily—it had its advantages as -well-as disadvantages, though-still-it was an obstruction in the way of, a sound and uniform system of education. He could assure the House than any suggestion on this subject would receive the consideration of Government. Lord HO WICK said he - was perfectly satisfied with the suggeitions thrown out by the Right Hon. Gentleman:" He hoped he would consider also the advantage of ap pointing impartial examiners from among the public for the schools; whether this patronage in the shape of re ward were given or not. Mr. EWART said, he had referred to the establish• . ment of libraries. Sir ROBERT PEEL could not conceive anything more binding on the rich....manufaetnrers.in the different districts, than assisting in the establishment of libraries for the working classes. Where there were wealthy manufacturers, who had derived thousands and tens of thousands from the labour of the working classes, he could not imagine a more becoming return than esta blishing institutions of this kind.- lie believed in many parts of the country this was the case. Mr. EWART—There was not one town in England where there was a library open to the public as they were abroad. Sir R. PEEL thought the Hon. Gentlemen hardly did justice to the ,manufacturers of the country. The ex pense was so small, and the effect on the connection be tween rich and poor so beneficial, that he should be - sorry - to see the Government stepping in to relieve pri vate exertions from that which had been attended with so good an effect. The interference of the Government would tend to check that exertion. Mr. EWART explained, amid cries of" Question." Sir R. PEEL—I know the Hon. Member mentioned schools of design, but surely he said libraries also. The subject then dropped. CASE 'OF MR. ROLLS. Mr. FITZNIAURICE then rose to draw the attention of the House to the case of Mr. Joseph Henry Rolls. This gentleman had been for fifteen years a landing- Waiter in the service of the Customs, and had borne a most irreproachable character. In the year 1840, Mr. Rolls had overtures made to him by an individual to de fraud the Government. He reported those overtures to the Surveyor-General, and made a memorandum of them at •the time, and put it in his desk. Mr. Rolls had stated before the •Commissioners of Revenue Inquiry that the 'frauds Would not have been committed if the landing-waiters had had freer access to the board. From 1840 to 1842, no case of suspicion had occurred, and in that year Mr. Rolls had been suspedded and dis charged. The wording of the charge against Mr. Rolls differed from the wording of the other charges. The other officers were charged with having concealed the overtures made to them from the board, and from their superior officers. The words " superior officers" were omitted in the charge against Mr. Rolls. He-appeared before Mr. Dawson, made his defence, and stated that he had reported the overtures to his superior officers. The. Commissioners reported that the communication which Mr. Rolls had made ought to have been sufficient 16 have aroused' the suspicions of his superior officer. Mr. Rolls, however, was dismissed, but the Commissioners of Revenue Inquiry recommended .that, he should be reinstated ; yet, in May last, the Lords of the Treasury had confirmed his dismissal. He should like to know by whom 'Mr. Rolls was dismissed ; why by those who never heard a single word of the evidence against him. Could such persons, he would ask, be proper judges of his case ? If Mr. 'Rells was guilty, let him be sent to Newgate ; but if he was innocent, let him be placed is the situation he was in before. If he was unfit for one situation, surely he was unfit for all, and if such was the case, why was his salary kept up? He firmly be lieved in the innocence of Mr. Rolls; and such being the case, he would conclude. by moving that the p e titi on o f Mr. Rolls should be referred to a Select Committee, who Were to report.thereon, with the evidence, to the House. The CHANCELLOR of the. EXCHEQUER said that, from the number of orders and notices.on the paper, he did not anticipate "the motion of the Hon. Member would have come on for discussion, The papers on the subject , had been ordered, but were not yet on the table of the House. Ho regretted this the more, because they would have represented , 'more clearly the situation of the question than the Honourable Member had done. There were circumstances .in .which this gentleman might have formed erroneous opinions, but be ,was always inclined to put a lenient construction on his acts. The Right Hon. Gentleman ,then• detailed the - circum stances which led -to .the stumpaion of - Mr. Rolls. When he fi„rst cornnidlllcated-to.the chairman of the Board of Cifet t Onla what had been told him concerning ' Mr. t,l 1. Rolls, that gentleman wrote back, saying he IT soon suspect him as he would his own brothe r. _ report of the Board of Customs distinctly statedMn that degree of confid ence cou ld no t be repose°, to the Rolls which had justifi e d hi s being restorea, up situation which he filled. But his salary was Pa n ,' ale, to the period at which the communication _ d ie and another situation was offered to him, but o_l v;:„ e d, ferent character from that which he previously The course pursued was that which was strictlycuvef sistent with the public interest, and with the ver the Board of Revenue. He had done all be cowl s a p ! i t - make - therereatal of - Mr. Rolls easy, both with re Ad to his feelings, and in a pecuniary point of he could say was, that he regretted that his Hon• " .fe f r should use any exp ress i on d erogatory to the chara_tected in the Chairman of th e Bo ar d o f C ustoms , a s he suoald the way which most men acquainted with the facts 0 have done, and whi c h was for the advantage of the Inl welfare. a lope Mr. DUNCOMBE did not think justice had bee t he to the character of Mr. Rolls by the Chancellor of Exchequer. Mr. Rolls had acted throughout with dependent and manly integrity ; he had comtn llll _ l oo l, the offer to bribe him to the Survey but that officer had not, as he should have done, ;' dio municated it to the board until the frauds w e , r , sral ed covered, twelve months after. He had been inform , that favouritism was going on to a most disgracettere officers ern, w tent, and that yo ung an d i nexper i ence d a placed over the head s o f mos t exper i ence d, e fficie nt who had been for years in her Majesty's service', 01 thought a strong case for inquiry had been made out, he hoped the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman would e'iride the House upon his motion. „ to Sir R. PEEL th oug ht i t was unw i se i n the 11°11;-beir attempt to control • the Board of Customs in patronage. H e th oug h t it had not b een shown tha t ie r Board of Custom s h a d acte d i n an i mproper man se • r the case which h a d j ust b een b rought under t h e e o nsid „, e nt, ration of the Hous e . H e h e ld i n hi s han d a state-d of which had been s i gne d b y s i x mem b ers of the 130?1.001 Customs, containing groun d s w h y t hi s Mr. R o lls sn the not be reinstated in his situation. It appeared from b ba d report which had been ma d e by t h e Committee whire..ads, been appointed to investigate the Custom -house " d in that Mr. Candy, ,a person who had been engag e gr. smuggling transactions, had made a proposal to I bis Rolls, for the purpose of defrauding the Customs. b e d proposal, it was true, Mr. Rolls had rejected, but he,, er failed to inform the Board of Customs of the cirel is , stances. Although there was no imputation on the e fte d ratter of Mr. Rolls, yet circumstances had 0 0 , 11 ' his which rendered it unadvisable to reinstate him 1 .1 0 1) situation. Under these circumstances, he (Sir , t he hoped the House would not entertain the motion. ' o ' Hon. and Gallant Gentleman. that Mr. HAWES trusted that what had passed in hint' House would not aff ec t M r . R o ll s i n any other OP° went for which he might apply. f e tc „Lord G. LENNOX defended th e c h arac ter 0 0 Ras', 'arid said that, i n hi s op i n i on ; the Comtnissie of Customs had not sufficiently considered his case-, his believed. that-Mr. Rolls had been withdrawn from. le tit situation by the Board of Customs upon insa& evidence. ' d be e Mr. 'F. T. BARING r egre tt e d t h at a ll us i on ha d fie made to the appointments in the Custom-hous e "„ the thought it was muc h b e tt er to l eave such matter s to the 6cmsideration of the Board of Customs, as they we re only responsible parties. Captain FITZMAURICE, in withdrawing h l5 hese tine, explain e d t h a t he should have moved for t o , a g papers three mon th s ago, h ad he not understood plot) the intention to re - cons id er the case of Mr. Ro lls, a view to his restoration to office. The motion was then, by leave, withdrawn. INCENDIARY FIRES. • t ee Mr. M. GIBSON said he rose, according to th e to tice he had giv e n, to ca ll th e attent i on of the Ilens;or the ineendiarism now p reva l ent i n the count i e s o f tir o folk, Sliffolk, Essex, and Cambridge. He was that the fires were happily not so extensive .‘f br e as they had been a short time ago, but this interval of reason furnished no reason wh; l ','; e n, for not inquiring into the condition of the pop which appeared to have given rise to this most awfw,"he wicked crime. The extent of the crime, it could ne" 0 ( doubted, had been very great during the last si % at i;. eight months, and h e was speak i ng within the lea when he said that considerably more than one " n e e, ,fires had occu rre d during that period in Suffo/k aping and peihaps ,upw ar d s o f two h undred in the adj°l"in. counties to the county of Suffolk. 'He h a d been . 1 , formed at an offic e w hi c h i nsure d upwards of f ou r r e l se lions of agricultural p ro p er t y , t h at their - losses by at incendiary fires alone exceeded all their other losses P t° together; so that if the practice of incendiarism we re t he continue It was clear it would be necessary f el. a ce offices ' greatly t o i ncrease t h e i r rates of instill/o fee. agricultural property, or, not doing • a ll. they would be o bli ge d to l eave off insuring i t at i , They had lately se e n suc h a general display of 11 1 ' o ,g f nant feeling, and suc h a tota l disregard of the rig the ..peeperty. r .that_a_ wag _w oom _ an -absolute-duty Pt al e Government to probe th e matter to the bottom. .'tent a variety of causes had been assigned fir the discon_ ae, from which it had b een alleged that this horrible Pr be tiecof incendiarism had originated. The mo tinn t he -(Mr. Gibson) i n t en d e d to propose was i n e ffect in v nature of an add ress t o the Crown, calling (,n the i s . vernment "to send down into thes e counties a Coint ° ll . o sion of.tr us two r thy, discreet, an d confidential men, ,„ can be depended on, for th e purpose or inquiring i n !, , the general condition- of the agricultural labourerli; those counties, a n d f or t h e purpose of ascerta ll e what are the grievances tinder which they supposed to suffer. He (Mr. Gilson) mentioned o . e i t days ago to the House that 'he thought it desirable t i o a cOnimission should be sent dotvn into the Ea t he Counties for the purpose he had mentioned, b ut nt et Right Hon: Secretary. (Sir James Graham) 'did stated that time accord with his .opinion, and, in fact, 1. 1 - 4 , 11 that he could not, agree to the proposition '"mu te d further consideration. He (Mr. Gibson) now ai r co. that the further consideration which the Hight " l iv id Baronet had been enabled to give to the subject n . induce him- to send down. discreet persons to roa a t his quiries upon thi s su bj ec t. that oHe did n o t suggest f inquiry sho u ld b e ma d e t h rough the instrgguruentq t he the Poor-law C omm i ss i oners, not but what be 1111 ; 0 s 0 greatest confid ence i n t h ose gentlemen; but there be certain feeling abroad as to the poor-law itself, that t, hieC should fear. any report made by them upon the 51 . „ I ''' on la would : not be satisfactory to the, public, who A ,. oa t rather believe that a case was attempted to be made 9 for .the good working: of the poor-law rather t'. a he searching inquiry into the actual condition ° l ,,,; t r et agricultural labourers. When he mentioned this sl e d oni.a former occasion, the Right Hon. Gentlema n ,ere suggested that it should rest for a time, as there " iv triali about to t a k e ' place for this very crime e i f s of cendierism, and it w ou ld b e w i se to await the rel o o• then). But he (Mr.,Gib son ) ca ll e d on the Right otter Gentleman to take a statesman's View of this l a ;is• rather than that of a police-officer or a mere adra it _trator of the law. He called upon him not to t11 „, ! ;ng 'Chief . officer's view of such matters, but one bece;",lls a high 'and resposible adviser of the Crown. What wanted' was this, that . the Government shoto,. - „„lo thordughly into the depths of the case—that they 5 "" if ,probe the existing cause of this crime with a vie: sc, possible, of guarding against it for the future. It n r eV perhaps, be too m uc h to assume that want and ta - ' l , e . : were the excitin g causes of this crime, when mandec those now in charge could not plead this as Ifi 1- 5 se euse, for their hatred of property ; but nothing v v9 it sil wenknown as that where considerable disconten t t A ll murmuring prevail, there will be found individuel s ,! t hei times ready to work ou t t h e : greatest crimes, thong" bleb were not themsel ves the sufferers from the evils w as prevailed. And he (Mr. Gibson) could say fre lli ns ld authority, that b o th i n t h at House and out of i t alike tommandrespect—he meant Sir Henry Bunb t l of that this crime of incendiarism was but the syrnP t° fled ,the, dangerous, and deep discontent which pribet amongst the labouring population.--(Hear, hear.) a 0 0 1 high authority used these very words ;—" I mo st " ;v nalr my conviction that these incendiary fires are the 5 1„ - g sl tomie °Pa smouldering and dangerous discontent atn ° jejr. the.' rural population."—(Hear, hear.) Now he .„` e rir Gibson) thought he had a right to call on the Ge,., - in' meat to send down discreet and proper persons:beet` stitnte an inquiry into the allegations which ha", be made; and he had a double right to do this, v t li et recollected the statements which had been wau' ns ‘ "te' former occasion by the Right Hon. Gentleman of the necessity of maintaining the comfort an. K ing being of the rural population, and in accorre s e at this, even to consent to sacrifice in ei F ests degree. the tradi ng an d commercial if t e.,. tie' of the. country.--(Hear, he ar .) Honourable Geiogi men opposite had contended on a well-known oee s- ea es that they mu s t maintain their. loved and laude d , s Q c iri' of rural feli c ity, w hi ch the Right Hon. Baronet ( 10 , 0 5 Graham) h a d d ec l ared would at once cease if the core l oft ' were repealed. Reverting, however, to the r er t iiari which many asserted to be the cause of those inten d a ot fires, he (Mr. Gibson) wished to know if they Might these fires when the allowance system was at its ",;dto under the old poor-law?—(Hear, hear.) He wa n i„ren" know haw it was that, under the old poor-law , ' r ider diarism existed 'to as great an extent as it did now 11 l i ed the new poor-law ?—(Hear, he ar .) F rom this 11 ,, e a lte' a 'right to conclude, that if the di sease were ncui Jae; gether of a ch ron i c nature, there was something be e the mode of re li e f which prompted those most 'ivi `eye into crimes.e--(Hear, hear.) Without going, h owever '(g r ; the. question of the operation of the poor-law , ,;"„ ota o - Gibson) could not help feeling that there might " w ere truth in,the assertion that the labouring classes brin'' prejudiced against that law ; but he could n ° .„ a tiel l , himself to think it was the main cause of the a lel i - er s between the peasantry and the owners and occupier on" land. He said then, as he, had said before in and ea of that House, that there was no class 01 ds' in this country more .disposed to be In 041; trious—more disposed to be orderly—Mo re lA ling to bear up manfully against distres s li s triet s privations than the agricultural labourers of the 'J ilt teiv he was now alluding to. If he wanted to pick amples of good conduct, he should go to the lav e , t ha t of the eastern counties ; and he could not but fe_J at ire, the discontent must be of a very deep and s erior.o . n te 0 0 to, induce men of such good natural disposition:;sris° perpetration of so awful a crime as that of incenu' ret the and here he must say that he could not, but refi re the conduct of an Hon. Gentleman opposite, on e on ° t Members for Norfolk (Mr. Wodebouse), w ho, Wee former occasion overlooking altogether the o cer which - want and despair have OD men's mor al Ee do ll° tions—had assumed that nothing w it h , lt towards the suppression of crime, save thronzwu "strumentality of the gibbet, and had founo,,_ pain) the very proper exercise of the mercy of "%il l ain/ beneficial c ould" , tile ill , which the Right Hon. Geiitleman (Sir Jatnes tid had authorised in the case of the two youths fe f n is ,g r eolK rt at one,"Of the' recent assizes for the county ° ,-, au t1e 036 , 0 He did-not mean to say that the Honourable Gen 'had - made such a remark as he had mentioned, but et h° who had heard this question would have th,trfoanbot questioned the course of the Right Hos'. *°6