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proportion to theßritish Civil List, , vhich would make the whole of the Charge to be borne by Ireland 6478,0001. There was .the sum of 700,0001. in Treasury Bilh (which were ready the same as Exche'quer Bills in England) in the possession of the sank Ireland, which did not circulate, which the Bank. of Ireland were disposed to renew, and which there was authority under an Aa of Parliament to renew. He had now done with the charges ;he came tie* to consider the means by which those charges were to he defrayed. The balance remain. ing in the Exchequer of Ireland, which had some re. semblance to the Surplus of the Consolidated Fund . of this Country, amounted to above one million, ' from -which, dedufting the arrears of payments which were due and payable up to that day, there would remain a net balance, applicable to the ser. vice of the year 1803, of 550,0001. The Revenue of Ireland lie would take at 3,000,0901. The Lot. • tery, the amount of which he would rake from the produce of that of last year, 200,0001. These sums, added to the proportion of the Loan which was raised for Ireland, which amounted to 2060,0001. would make the Ways and Means amount to 5,916,0001. which, deducted froth the total charge of Ireland, would leave a balance to be provided for of 562,0001. In. order . to meet that sum, it was propoied that a Loan should be raised •in Ireland to the amount of 1,000,0001. 'lf that sum should turn nut 'to be more than the services of the year required, it•would be transferred to the Consolidated Fund ; at the same time it would pro. duce that which he hoped would not be considered as an excessive sum in the Exchequer of Ireland, in times of such emergency and possible danger; and he trusted that this measure of precaution would not be considered as a measure of improvident profusion. It now remained for him to state the Taxes which he should have the honour to propose ; before, how. ever, he entered into that part of the subject, he hoped it would not be considered as irrelevant, if he said a few words respecting the Trade of Ireland. In the last Sesaion of Parliament, he had flit no. pleasant task of stating, that the balance of Trade was against Ireland ; he had now, however, the satisfadtion of stating, that the balance of Trade was, upOn a comparison, turned considerably in her favour. He wished, however, its make a distinc. Lion between the official value which liad been long . adopted, and the current value. The official value might certainly be very good in the comparison of . .the Trade of one year with apother, but it was by no means a just criterion of the balance of Trade . of ha Country. The official value always renvined the same, the current .value was of course always varying. 'There was another - misfortune with re gard to official valve, which was, that it did not comprehend all_ the considerations which it ought to comprehend,. though in the case of Imports it came nearer the real value than it did in the case of . Exports. The consequence of this was, that the official value in the case of Imports was nearry 30 per cent. below the real value, but in the 'case of Exports the difference between the official and the leal. value might be estimated at 6o per cent. Taking this into consideration, 'the Trade of Ire. land, would stated with her Exports exceeding her -Imports, althoogh judging from official value, the contrary might appear 110111 some Papery which had been presented to the House. Besides, in the ports there was a considerable proportion of raw materials, from which they might draw this consolation, that the manufanures of the Country . would he propitai mably benefited. fie atated these aahjstis generally, because - he hop. ed that it would aifind some consolation to know chat if there were considerable drains upon that Country, that at least there was a pros_ peel that they • would. not continue to the same amount, lie would: not, however, pledge himself that this elfaaA would be produced this year or itt • -any specific time. He had last year made some favoitrable predietiona respetting . the Trade of • Ireland, though he did not state that the balance of trade would he such as' he wished it to be—Some of his predittiona, however, had turned out to be well founded. With regard to the Linen Tradeohe had observed that the great Ad vantages which were given in this Country to Foreign Linen, the scarci. tty which was bat just over, and which certainly iSad in some degree prevented the sale of that ar. tick, had not so completely passed away that he ((dd not trust much to an increase in the export of than article, and it had not iticreased much, but he had-the satisfaeliott to state, that in the course of the year the stock in Ireland had been almost cleared off, and he had no doubt but he should haVe more reason to rejoice at the staie of that Trade, f or s col T h an he had for 130 e. But if in the at. tide cat Linen there was not much aubjed Inc congratulation, there certainly wa4 great ground for gatisl3,ttion, in contemplating the T ra d e i n Provisions and Coro. With regard to Provisions, the demand which was necessary at the commencement of a War, fOr the outfit of fleets, &c. must of itself be very great, but independent of that; the exportation of that article and Corn had increased so us to turn the balanee in favour of Ireland, in the way he had stated. in the parsent year the demand fur provisions, in conse, ettlence of the War, would undoubtedly be great, and though he lamented the cause of the demand, yet as it was inevitable, he was happy that that demaod could be supplied by Ireland, because while die 'bore her share of the burtheos, and participated the risque of Great Britain willingly anti heartily, fee rejoiced that some relief was given by these means to the less abundant means of that Country. In the course of the peseta year he hoped therefore that in the attielea of Provisions arid Linen he should have much to congratulate his Country upon. With re p o t to Corn, it it should please God to favour cis with a favourable season, he hoped to have touch to boast 'Of next year. It was with great pleasure that. he. stated, that at no period was there ever such a profuse importation of Flax Seed into s lreland, cur, such general means used itt the cultivation of it. • lie now bcggrd leave to say a few words with regard to the .Revenues of Ir( ! bo , d. I.n the course of the last year (he was sorry to refer to any - thing which occurred last year, but stiil, on the one lunal, he wished to acceuotable to svh he had stared the year he. , it he bored .`fin` ineor7edly ; and, on t he ottse l TI - at he t i: t 1 t(7ol)tain their confiaence it Itc ur4te it; I:if :,t4tements). He had staitti • last year his' opinion that the Revenues of Iceland would increase in comparison with the preCeding year, he would nor now go into any detail upon' this subject, because a Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. FORSTER) with whom he differed in opinion, Was not now in his place, but he had stated the probable increase in the Revenue it 800,0001. and-in fad it • had increased nine hundred and odd thousand pounds. In the present year however he was sorry that he could not hold out hopes of a similar in crease; he could not even state that they would keep up to three millions and a half ; he thought it more safe to take then) at three millions, because certain articles had failed in the Import, . particu. larly Sugar. The arrears' of the Assesied Taxes had also been colleted, - amounting to 150,0001. It now remained for him to state the Taxes and Duties which he had to propose ; his statement upon this head would be short, because they were not new in principle, or extravagant , in amount. The first Duty which 'he had to propose was an increase upon the Imports in the Customs and Excise of rol. per Cent. This Duty could only attach upon articles of foreign pro. duce, because by the Comma of Union they could not attach upon articles imported from this Country. This he estimated at 140,0061. The next Proposi. tion he had to make was for. an increase of Duty upon the Exports. He thought it necessary to state that it was not the sense of the Union Compad that the Taxes of the two Countries should be, cer. tainly nut equal in amount, laut not even common or upon the same articles. The Taxes were to be distind and several, and dependant upon the 'sower of Parliament. But whenever it happened that it was consistent with the interest of Ireland that the Taxes, particularly with regard to Foreign Trade, imposed .in this, could he adopted in that Country, it.would :always he adviseable to adopt . them, in order to go forward in the road of assitni. -lacing the two Countries as much as possible. It was therefore with 'great satisfaClion that he now found that it would be consistent with the interest of Ireland-to adopt. the. Tax which had been im. posed-in this Country upon Exports. This Tax . at i and 3 per Cent. would, . he was sorry to say, produce not more than 17,0001.. The next Tax he had to . propose was upon an article which was well able ..to bear it, and which ought to be. taxed to the utmost extreme, so.as not to af. ford encouragement to the illicit dealer.--He, meant a tax upon Home-made Spirits. This art icle was One that was so destrudive to the morals, the Industry and the Health of the lower Classes of People in Ireland, ,that it certainly was a _ fair ob. jest of taxation, as far as it could, be done without encouraging the Private Distiller. The tax he should propose upon this article was yd. per gallon, which he estimated would produce I so,oool. As it had alwayi been usual to lay a duty on Foreign Spirits when a duty was imposed upon home made Spirits, be should propose a duty of 9d. a Gallon on Foreign Spirits, exclusive of the .ten per cent. upon importation, and this he estimated at 30,0001. With respett to the Imports, there was one article which he proposed ,to exempt,. and that was Tobacco, which had decreased in its im. porration from'9,ooo,ooo to 7,000,000 lbs. Great apprehension was entertained by the dealers in that 1 article, that an additional duty would be very pre. judicial to that branch of trade, he had therefore not .included it in the general increase of duties, but w •til,l let it stand over for further consideration, The last article upon . which he had to propose an additional Duty was Malt. Malt was used to a certain degre e in the Distilleries ; it was supposed that one half of the grain they used was malted. The burthen would not however fall heavily upon the Distiller, it would fall principally upon the Brewer. ',l'lie Brewery of Ireland had very much increased since the Stoppage-of the .Distillery, when the lower class of people had taken to drinking. beer in. stead of spirits. If however the Brewer felt an ad. ditional burthen, it would be some satisfaCtion to know, that the burthen would be but small, for the duty which he should propose of as. a barrel upon Malt, would not be more than 9.1. a barrel upon Beer. It had always been a principle of his to en. Courage the Brewery' of Ireland . as much as possible, knowing that the use of spirits was as injurious to the moral's, as it was to the health of the People of Ireland, and therefore no tax had been laid upon Malt of late, „even in rinses of the greatest pressure. The duty however, upon Malt was high, and unless it were in cases of extremity, and when every ex. ertion of the Country was to be called out, he should 'be the last man to wish,to see the Brewery of Ireland resorted to as a subjed of taxation.— This Tax he estimated at 40,0001. The whole of these additional Duties wooid, according to his calculation, produce 380,0001. The Interest. and Charge upon the Loan Mille for Ireland in England would he 143,0001. the Interest and Charge upon - the Loan iLI Irelanil'woutd be 65,0001. making togather 208,0001; - so that the amount of the Duties would exceed the Interest anti Charges of the Limos by . 1 7 3 ,000 l . It might be asked him why,when he had only zoii,oool. to provide for; he should propose Taxes to flit., amount of 380,0001. His answer was this—, in looking to the state of the Empire, he would take for the ne.if year either of two alternatives, either War or Pe:lce, ; if they should have Peace, the sur plus of duties on the present occasion wonld aff,rd the means of reducing the duties upon some articles which could nut he maintained in time of Peace, such as foreign spirits, or tobacco, from the factli tics of smiggling—but if on the other hand the Mar should continue, those duties would go in aid of those exertions which he was sure the wisdom, the vigour, anti the animation of the people of Ireland would lead them to make, after the example which had been shewn'to them by this Couutry. Nothing could he more wise and politic, than for a Country to avoid, if possible, running in debt—Nothing could be more wise than make great Exertions to — meet the pressure of the . momenr. He wished Ireland to look to the exam_ plc Which Great 'Britain had set her Upon t hi s - su b. jed. He wished heC to took to that ill i f str i uus Finance Minister, who had established .fitst t h e Sii king Fund, then the Assessed Taxes, and then • the Income Tax. He wished - her to look als o to them equally magnanimous' elan poduceii byi his Right Hon. Friend in the present Session. he wished Ireland to consider . these subjett!, Ond fittre she ww,il4 feel tic wiatiotn Atid the advai ;ge of i emulating Great Britain (not in the 'extent or in the amount of- her exertions, for that would be impossible,) but in adopting the wise policy of this Country as far as it was possible, in submitting to great - Burthens for the moment, in order to ensure her permament interests. It would require some time to inform Ireland of the immensity of the• danger .with which she was threatened, and some time to form ' Resolutions to meet that dan ger. But when the Gentlemen of that Country had had an opportunity of fully considering the subject, when they had had an opportunity of making all the Investigations, and obtaining all the titres. sary information, he should think it his duty to pro. pose something in the nature of a Tax upon Pro perty in Ireland, similar to that which his Right Hon. Friend had proposed for Great Britain. It would be evidently improper for him to enter into any detail upon this sullied now. If, however, the War should continue, it would be for him to Consider, on a future day, what would be the best for the interest of Ireland to propose, if he should then have the honour of filling the office he now held ; upon that occasion, he should hope for the assistance of the Gentlemen of that Country. He would not now trespass any longer upon, the attention of the Committee, but after thanking them for the indul. gence they had shewn him, he shoild conclude with moving his Resolutions. 44in LEE did not mean to oppose the Resolutions ; he thought that great exertions ought to be made in order to meet the pressure of the moment, that the debt of Ireland might not be increasing while that of England was either decreasing or stationary, because whenever it bore to the debt of England the proportion of t to 17, then Ireland was to be taxed in common with England, which she could not now bear: Mr. IV. SMITH, after paying several compli ments to Mr. CORRY, for the clearness and accu. racy of his statement, hoped he would not propose a Tax upon Income, whiCh he considered as so ob jeCtionable. ' . . Mr. CORRY, in'reply to Mr, tez i stated the reasons why he had not proposed any strong measure of Finance for Ireland this Session, Ireland might not peihaps be inclined to, bear great burthens to meet the exigence of the moment, though he was sure that would be the wisest plan. Besides, there were no immediate means to enable him to bring forward such a measure. There was no Land-Tax in Ireland, no Poor-Rate, no System of Municipal . Finance, if he might so ex,lress himself, from which lie could draw any aid,- or out of which he could form any system ; when these circumstances were taken into consideration, and that the War had not lasted above four weeks, it was not extraordinary that he had not prepared a more extensive system.' If the Tax.upon Property should be adopted it would have' one recommendation, that the absentee 3 would be compelled to contribute. The absentee Landlords. and Mortgagees would be forced to bear their share in the burthen. He hoped that Parliament would also lay their hands upon those drones, the middle men, who preyed upon the Landholder and the Tenant, and who were of no benefit to the State in any shape or charaeler. A short conversation then took place between Mr. It BROWNS, Mr. D. BROWNE D Sir MARCUS SOM FRVI E and Colonel BAGWELL. The Reso. lotions were agreed to, and the Report ordered to be received to.morrow. A number of Irish Accounts were moved for by Mr. WICKHAM and Mr. ODELL.. INCOME TAX. Mr. VANSITTART moved, thin the House resolve itself into, a Committee upon the Bill laying a Dutron the Profit* of Property, Pensions, Sce. - Mr. WILL ilf SMITH said, that he rose on the present occasion merely to state, that he should take another op. purtunity of opposing a Tax which he considered in its nature so oppressive anti vexatious as that now propos. ed, and which he believed no modification could render fit to he adopted. In consequence of the candid nianner in which the measure was conducted through the House, a candoUr on the part of Ministers, which it was the duty and policy of the House to encourage, he should re. serve himself for a future opportunitl, as he understood the Bill was to he printed. He took occasion to reply to cheat). servatimi of Mr. flawiu us BROWNS, that no txxshouldshould at such a moment, be proscribed. He said that he was se convinced, that any tax, like the present must be odious to 'the Public at large,and must tend to render them dissatisfied with the War they might even consider just and necessary, that with a view to calling forth the spirit and resources of the Nation elli:cqually, he should consider the Income Tax, however modified, as extremely detrimental to the Public.. Mr. H. Vicowet explained. Mr. VANsITT ART, in moving to go into the Committee, requested Gentlemen to keep their minds impartial —not to allow themselves to be MiSICO by comparing the present with any Tax upon a similar principle or of a similar name. He &egged them to wait fill the measure appeared in a proper shape. The Bill then went through the Comniiitee pro frpfa,.the House was resumed, the Report Wds brought up, agree d to, ordered to be further yon:iiderixt thi; clay se'rinight, anti the Bill to he printed. The Hill for regulating the Corn Trade between' England and I reliant was committed. The Hitl for Granting 2,-)',0ool. for snaking Roads, rridges, &c. in the Highlands of So.:otland, was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. The Irish Militia Twister Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be Lommitted to-morrow. Mr. VANS ITAKT bra fight up a fill for granting to His Majesty certain Ditties on the Profits of Protbssiorts, on Money in the Funds, &c. which was read a first time, and Prdered to he read a second time to morrow. On the Motion of Mr. WICK H AM, the Bill for more ef tedually preventing Combinations at Workmen in I re- Lmd, was read a tirst time. and ordered to be read a second titne to•worrow. The Militia Officer - a' Provision Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be tend a second time t-morrotv. The other Ordprs of the Day were then deterred, and the !louse adjourned at eleven o'clock. MAILS. DU t. ARRIVID. French t .. 11.nrtburgh THE SUN, 41101.1114 &LUIS °ICUS ? L NDO N, 3 u E 21, ,'?a3. OUR Readers will perceive by our P::rlinmentary , Debate, that last night the Secretary at Wat brought forward the Plan proposed by - Ministers, for raising 50,000 men to be added to our Regular Force for the defence of the United Kingdom. Our Report of the Secretary at War's Speech will be read with much satiaaftion, tts it is particularly clear, and, we believe, faithful ; and, we arc satisfied the Coun. try will receive with approbation any Malt= 1. ;" ( increasing our means of defence, which has the san:-_, tion and'supprt of Mr. Prir. It becomes the thvy of every man to unite, hand and heart, in preparing the hest means for defeating the daring intentions of the common Enemy. SY urderstand that it is determined by Go- ; i vernment, that the Foreign Mails which used t 0 be sent to Hamburgh and Bremen shall be forwarded to Gotterrbsrg for the present. No certain aceoust° have yet been received in this Country of the Dem pation of Hamburgh by the French, but there cis be no doubt of their being near enough to infante the usual channels of Bridal Commerce. Our Yarmouth Letter of yesterday states, 111 4, Capt. FLY N, of the King George Packet, with of his men, arrived there yesterday morning. 'Xild made their escape from Helvoet on TburstiaY 104 at it o'clock at night, in an open boat which thig cut out of the Harbour. The four Packets wh 10 were stopped at liekoet bad been condemneda their Crews were to be marched on Friday last fat I France. From a Passenger who came home in the Fr!% t " Elizahrth Packet from the Leeward Islandstr learn, that a great many French Vessels were /la at St. Pierre's, Martinique, loaded : for Mil!' but were in great want of hands to navigate tbC ll lt The Inhabitants of that Island are so disgusted w itil the French Government, that on the appearance f an English force, ,they would gladly surreol,o:l! again to Great Britain. Letters from Lisbon state, that General LA III - 1$ had requested permission of the Portuguese Gqie n3 ;, ment to march 25,000 French Troops into Poritir as fries.*; to which the PRINCE REGENT et i bly answered, " that he would not permit the m ! enter either as Friends or Enemies, as iong,.°!.h e : . was able to prevent them, and that it was hts termination to silik or swim (with Great Br;1 0111 " .) :'' • , .f;! SUN.OFFICE, Two o'(.LocK, P. IVI.—We h ive. , 31, 4 I°. received three days Paris Journals to:the r9th inst. 'its ° '.'' : A. r.t itTE had rot left Paris. The Elbe an.l the We. are 11Ww ' ' against the English. `Yesterday the ICING reviewed the 1 tth Regim ent :-.i o T_ f h l e ) i r r a ß g( o )o y ns on Ashford Common. 1 - 11 4- Wi",i ll ri f t ; • i. ~ c it came iu:t:T o Eo n itN t L I: A e cN g t Di re,osuTtosdj CHESTERFIELD l a: I ): Ef u L t uD Royal Highnesses the DUE Es of 'Yotto: • il nth GW yNN I and GARTH. Thefatticissas AVS GUST A and MARY, attended' by Ladies Arbota . ~ BURY and CHATHAM,. were in their carriages, r° i:ho:3 1 - y i r is.etsitllk:rodiya.hyalirHtdhießglpelgsAieirmestsief:tltte:lif:oGura;ol::::ifiedvsierwori :. witness the R ev i ew , the Coldstream G ua rds in Hyde Palk At nine o'clock to-morrow morn i ng , a nd On Thursday at the kill" and a number of 1: .." L ottery , waitel upon the CHANCELLOR of the ~ Exc ttacitt aft to contra& for the. Lottery of T he n cieiit Lo r ds rOl3 , 4 : Ancr,:h. sent year. Upon opening the first paper gTs_ the parties declared that the other lists were IP° same, as no Jingle patty could venture to rake the of the Country, without exposing whole Lottery, in the present state of the Financo s to great risque, and almost certain loss. Tito CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER declared I hit rit e price offered was considerably below his expeOatiunt; :xeaennady::::::::: at I en"' ,)# ' ~, and that unless they would agree itioleirgiSvuebasirairt:er - sum for the Lottery, he would raise the necessatil • We are sorry Supplies another way. It was then agreed to pea....: pone the bidding till to.morrow, at eleven o'cloO n The Lottery riled to consist of So,ooo Ticke"' ° I which was ar fi f 1 3: 0,00°• a pro t 0 upward to the Public. crew Yesterday s s t v e e r r d e a a y l l m s:: Re:lila /ices of 36 guns, the Hon. Cyr. W.Datlastr was totally lost on Cape St. Vincent, in'a thick fog; early in the morning cf the 3 tst ult. Happol 1 1l . Church, by the Rev. CHAR LPS MOR DAUNT, tepee Col PE A c og was married at Mary.le-e • . cocka, eldest son cal Sir iVfg °-- g Bart. to Miss Mo It R rs, eldest •ddughter of .s MORRrs, Esq. of Clasemont, Glarno(gosh ire ' rytnoeicifs).gtate, lout His IVlaiell's Frigate ntg er t DOVER, joss 20.--.71"1e Minerva hired arnl e( , - ;4 1 i t, commanded by Lieut. TALBOT, captured last Beachy head the Gab, 'elle Privarter, with 3 , A C " r e -- 0 0 /‘ small arms and 16 trim, belonging to Fecamp ; a"" Lars' the Glory Brig, or Chepstow, 'Capt. liat. roux iron f-ia4 drin for Bristol, laden with deals, ike. —The Privat ccr Brig ant both sent into this Harbour. pin# ss LI FALMOUTFI, 'LINE —Yeaerlay arrived the ` o r na p. Elitabetki Packet, Captain Kirin, in 37 'Lips. from .‘ the Passengers by her are, Lioutenant YoVt 46 ' ; 1 0 1 Navy, and I Areas Howl, F.sq. and 4crvanc. ,10$ the King George Packet, Captain l'Escomas, in with a Mail from Lisbon. Passengers by h , :ralVt 14°11' Af t. Et.Liorr, his Lady and Son, Mr. and Miss DiGUISt! Or,, 13,tousswALE, Mr. GLOBS and Son, Mr. GootPaillooll Cqx, and Mr. Lssr&E. The King George left at the Prince Adolphus Packet, Capt. VI stsr coatis. cote Sailed this evening the Miranda, Letter of Mortju e , , tit WM. SNOW. She is the first Vessel of that deseripl,Wore has sailed belonging to this Port ; she is a rernartat';',.,,e4 last sailing Cutter, carries eight guns, and is well cluAr o c c h and manned; and from the number of French and roof Vessels expeeLed from the West Indies, we hope sOOO .„, t br of a tew Prizes being sent in by her.--Sailed this evo l l:for , Venus Cutter, having under Convoy the Ship Aa Cnil ROCLY, for Liverpool. Mint 001 Arrived the Brig lane, Trtour , :cr, from Du P with the loss of her foretop mast. • PRICE OF YLSTIR. STOCKS, DAY. Rank Stock $ , In Stock shut - i NAVYI to Cent. shut India Bond> s • weirs. ; per t. p e r . 1791, gill I . %LAN; Pith U. 16 . VIII. 143115 per cent. 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