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IMPERIAL P R I 411/1 EN T. HOUSE OF PEERS. rRIDAY, JULY Z. COUNSEL were heard at 'considerable length rela tive to the Appeal (a Writ of Error from the Court of - King's Bend)), Richard-, Askew (as representa. live of the Doke of. Queensberry) Robert Mackretb, Se'rjeant 'laws and Mr. letimi, on behalf of the Plaintiff, and Mr. Grins, as leading Counsel, on the part of the Defendant. The further hearing was postponed till Monday. The SECRETARY at WAR, el(terg3ed by a great number of Members, brought up the A.rmy . bf Re. serve Bill, Several private Bills were brought up by Lord FOLKSTONE, Messrs. GRAHAM § HARE, General (3a.scovrrE, and other Gentlemen. • Lord HonAat immediately moved the itrSt read, ing of the Army of Reserve Bill, which was read ac cordingly. He then moved, that the Bill be print ed, 'and oliseyveti that as there was little dOubt the Prints being ready in the interval, and as Ow Notice must 'he universally' impressed' with the ur gent necessity which existed. for poising the Bill as expeditiously as was pradicable,. he +should move that the Bill he read a second time to-mortow. On this, a conversation ensued between the Earl of Mot kA, Lord MULGRAVE, tlfe Lo,kl) CII4N, sr E OMR,. ilfla• Lord Hou4aT, which principally re. tmaed an 'arrangement with regard to the subse, mu s eht\Stagzs of the Bill. •: • Fun of' MOIRA in substance observed, that his objeet in rising, was, farther to facilitate the ex. peditioos progress of the Bill ; he, was aware Of.its necessity, hit as there were several Peers who pro. bably would wish to deliver their opinions on the subjeCti on parts of which also some difference of possibly might preitail, lie thought it best it should be now understood, that no 'discussion was intended on that Bill to-morrow. —The interval was perhaps too short to. 'en. Mile Noble Lords fully to make up their minds on a sujea, which, to. a certain extent, was one of detail. Under the like impression, the necessity of expedition, he would further propose, that when the clauses,of the Bill should cotne •to be discussed in a Committee, (which he seemed to think should be on Monday at farthest,) there should he no debate, or long speeches as to the principle of the Bill,: but that their Lordships should confine themselves .as closely as possible to the subjeet matter of the provisions, and reserve thernselves• Its to the discussion of the-geoaral subjea, until the Report, which lie hoped would be taken ihto con. sideration as soon as possible after the close of the Committee. The Noble Earl pressed the con. Riderarion of its being understood, that no discus. • bion should take place as to the. principle of the Bill. Lord MULG RAF . E, though equally anxious, and Convinced of the necessity of the . Bill's passing as speedily as passible, yet seemed to entertain doubts ps to a premature chalking out the line of proceed. ing with roped to the future stages of a Bill, :He wished it might be ,so arranged, as (though the. directly contrary may he intended) that Debates on two different days might not take place open the - BilL He therefore: Wished the Whole discussion upon lhe measure might be fixed for Monday, even were it necessary, in order tb go through two stages Of the Bill on that day, that the relevant standisag Qrder of the House should be sirspend4 7 -iptaElite which he seemed to think had been resorted to on ;midi, less urgent aceasitins. . • Lord 11':)11 /07' appeared in, a great degree to acquiesce in what had fallen from the Noble Earl , who led tlie conversation, and was proceeding to 14:. plain an arrangement by which, he thought the Bill inly be read a third time on Tuesday. On thii in. tc tion The LORD CH ANCELLORItiitte3. the Wool_ pack, and expressed his doubts whether consistently with the,Standing Orders of the House, the Bill, f 0). 'Owing up the arrangement propoacci, could be read a third tame on Tuesday there were two modes of ob.- • vititing this difficulty—One of these was, what he thought the House, with a reference to its ow ti dignity and the corrednens of its proceedings would.not re. sn upon, namely, (so we,ontlerstood the Noble and LearnetlLtud), to older its . Speaker to put a clues.'.ratan, lion, contrary to one of its :ir , toding ardars;— The second was, that the, relevant standing. Order which opposed the consideration of the • Report on the same day of committment should be' sus. pentled, .which could not .be done, under an Pciless ottle.r.without two days preVious notice be. log given. in the course of his observations the Learned Lord alluded to the difficulty which. was lately: experienced in this respea in the progress of the discussion of' a' very important measure—the Clergy Residence Bill. The remaining part of the conversation was of an emthoGitory nature. Lord klut.Gtsv it, after a few observations of this kind, moved with the View. above stated, that the Standing Orders, No. t 54, and 155, ho taken 'into consideration on Monday. , Lord Ho a ART alit) eXpitiined, as,did the Earl of Mo IRA ; :utter .which the' Moti , ,Ouf Lord Mut,. pRAVIV was agreed to. Lord NUMMI shortly expres4ed his wish to have it generally undetstOr4d, that' no discussion of the measure should talcs place to-morrow, The Bills brought up from - . the Commons were then read a first time,- and those on the Table were forwarded in their respedive Stages. Lord P.PLH4M, by Command of His Majesty, laid Retort; the tiouse a Qopy of the lc; Order in Cowl. 'Of the 1.)1 the LORD CuAracEt.t;oa, re. ppraing the Standing Orders, NA. 146 and 151, yicro fi , JA.lioncd.—Adjoutnet) tiii 1.4...1n0rr0wv iIOUSE OP COMMONS, r+tiDAY # rtitfir I. MC. FQNBLANQUL preiented 4 Petition. from Sir 'Dos, compLiining of au 4044 c Eleaion for s , 0 01 ot Sf , ilihwark.—prtiered to lao token into comi, , erat ion on the 24.111 of Augtni. BioTAP inttilled a Petition from the F::.itcrrnto of I;r4h,on, oguitut,the Fi4h cornimity upon the Tilbie, A new Writ was ordered for Tiverton, in the room- of the Right . Hon, now. Lord HARaoway. The Clcrgy Residence - Bill was recommitted. Mr. CALCRA FT asked if the Right Hon- and Learned C.ventleman had any objedion that when a Clergyman obtained three 'months' leave of absenee ) that he should he obliged to provide a Curate. Sir WAI. SCOTT objected to this provision, and, as we understood, referred to some further re- . gulations upon this a übled. Tlie House being resumed, the Report was re sumed, and the Bill ordered to be read a third tima to-morrow. The Order of the Day being read for the third reading of the Woollen Clothiers' Bill, Mr. BROOKE said, that without recapitulating the arguments which he had before urged against the.,Bill, he should move that it be read a third time This day three . months. Mr. fluasi spoke shortly in support of the Bill. Mr. P. MOORE thought this a subjett of the greatest importance ; he said it would not be pro. per, in the present state of our IVlanufadures, to re. peal all these Laws without adopting some regula. tions in their room, and he recommended to the ,a Partici to Make this temporary , measure, with a . view of taking up the subjelet again at a more Con. venient. period. Mr.' HENRY LASCELLES , wished to state, as one of the Representatives of the County of York, . that he was placed in a very unpleasant situation, having great bodies of people as Constituents, who were interestel'on diff rent sides of the question. He would not oppose the Hill, but would leave -it to the'decision of the House.' Mr. BROOKE. said, that if the Laws upon this subjca were.to be repealed, they ought to be re pealed generally, and ~not partially, as was now proposed. The onlyobjed he had in making the Motion he had done, was to_ extend this repeal ge. nerally to, the whole of the. Country, and not con. fine it to four Ciunties, as was now proposed to be done. He hoped His Majesty's Ministers would bring forward some general measure upon the sub. je6: . • Mr. 11. BROWNE s;thl, he saw so much danger from converting private Manufaaories into large and public ones, that he was unwilling to give his . assent to this as a perinanent measure; if, however, the Parties would consent to the introduaion of a Clause to continue this Bill for two years, he would vote for the Bill.' Mr. WILBERFORCE lamented that this Bill was brought forward at a time when the attention of Partianidnt was called to other measures of still greater consequence. It followed of course that 'it had not met with that degree of attention which its real importance deserved, except from some Gentle men *hose Constituents were particularly concern. gd. The persons who were• apprehensive of this measure were peculiarly entitled to the.attention of the House, because they carried on their nianufac tures in a .domestic manner, which was much More conducive , to public morals than large fatiorics.', Whethei any compromise could b e a d o p te d, he did not know ; 'but he had endeavou red to. find out some could term, which eo meet with 'the interests and wishes of the parties concerned, but in vain.: Hie should be glad if the proposition of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Bitowtat) could be adopted, though he 4h00.1d wish that -the'. term-was longei titan had been proposed. Mr DICKW , ISON 'spoke in support of the Bill. Admiral BEKKELEY said, the übjea of this Bil I had been so rtnith . ' s detaiJcii, that if was unnecessary fur. Lim .to occupy the, time of the House. He w.if.!;;.-1, however, - to observe, that this measure was not. new in principle. An application was Made . several years, ago,by the Hatters and Cidico-dyers to repeal pats of the St. tute of. Elixabeth, alid.after a fall invescigation it. was repealed. He hived that the House •would concur in this. Bill, because if it was •not passed, innonrrahle a c tions would be • brought forward, and the manufaturers would be ruined. He should 'be ,as• glad as any man to see some regulations broUght forward,. and if any could be suggested, he mould support them ; but in point of ,fact, there were none suggested, though in' the course 'of, the summerlome,tnight be agreed upon. Dr. I i AIVRENCE 8,40, tear this was. a subjed of the greatest importance; .it-was- syid on the.one side, .that the efica, of the Bill:would beto throw 2 1 5,000 rrsons out•nf emplOyinent,' and on sh e other, that it would be the ruin of the trade. He then proceeded to an examination of the evidence against the Bill, and concluded with .giving his assent to the Bill. ' • • Mr. SHERIDAN defended the condu6t of the Pcti 'tioners. Dr. LAWKEt4Ce explained.. Mr. -WI 1,13 CR FORC E explained. Mt. AG(i iT said, it was not necessary that the uhoniti cuter any lontdctails upon a sub, jest which lies in a narrow c nnpass; and upon which a great roAjorily oldie Nktobeis wertagteed.. He was decidedly of opinion that this Bill ought now to be. passed, but at the saine time. he hoped this would not be considered as a definitive regulation :'on the con., trary there Was nothing to prevent Parliament from taking up the subject in a future Session, and adopt. ing such provisions as Might appear to be necessary to put an, end to the unfortunate differences Which, preVailed with regatd to this Manufgiure. Mr..SHERIDAN proposed that Parliainent should come to a . ResOlution to take up the subject again next Session. - Mr. BRAGGr.said, he thought there was no necessity'for entering into any:pledge upon the sub. jai, at the same little it %Val open to any Gentleman to give notice that he would bring it fotward next Se4sion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, though he by no means - wished that Partin.. ment. should, consider itself as precluded from re. vising 'the subjeet, yet he could not concur in the proposition of the Hon, Gentleman. The House had a regard to the interest of the workmen, as well as to that of the Enablers, but he wished them to understand that the attention of' the House to their interests would put be quickened by combinations and tumult. Mr, Wit.amrozca explained; .and denied that them were any tumults in -Yorkshire. The cailcry was then cleared fOr 4 division 4 but it did not; take place, and the Bill was read a third time 'and passed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER_ moved the Order of the D;ty fur the House to resolve 'it. self into a Committee of the whole House, to Con. sides' further of a Supply to be granted to His Ma. jesty. The House having resolved itself accordingly, The CHIINCELLOR tyl the EXCHEQUER _ _ . _ _ _ said, it would be recolleeted that he had given ticethit he should move to-day for the sum of five millions to be issued on Exchequer Bills, to pay oft those outstanding of the year :802. He therefore moved a-resolution to that effea, which was voted. He moved also the following resolutions which were voted: f 16,000 (the usual sum) fur Forts and Settle. ments on the Coast of Africa. ( iz,ooo, in pursuance of Addresses 'of the House, &c. &c. Report ordered to be received on Monday next. Further Committee on Monday. The House then resolved itself into a Com mittee of Ways and Means, when the five millions of Exchequer Bills, granted in the Committee of Supply, were voted, as well as several other Re solutions on the Affairs of Ireland ; the Report of which was ordered to be received to-morrow.— Agreed to go, into a further . Committee of V'nys and Means on Monday.. 'l - 11e House agreed to go into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the East India Docks Bill on Monday next, on the Motion of Sir FRAN. CIS BA-RING. The House in a Committee on the subject of the East India Dock Petitioners, passed a Resolution to compensate them for , the loss they may sustain by carrying the Bill into cfleti. Report ordered to be received to.morrow. The SECRETARY at WAR moved the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Scots Addi. tional Army Bill. The Order being read, Mr. CHARLES GRANT expressed a wish to know, for the satisfadion of his Constituents, the scale on which the proportion had been taken for IN:Hotting the men for Scotland under this Bill. The .ECR ETOY at IPA explained it to be on the pr i nc iple which he bad originally opened, when he moved for leave to bring in' the Bill, which was then intended to have been nine Bill for England and Scotland, by which . England was to raise 34,000, and Scotland 6aoo iaien, and, that was at the rate of 84 men out of every : 10,000 of the male population, that was to say, .with the variati of no more than i 6 either over or under, upon the number of any County or DiStrid. He wa aware that this produced some disproportion in the Dis ias; and was rather remarkable in the case of the County of Inverness, and the Hon. Gentleman was s petfealy justified in demanding this explanation for the satisfakion of his Constituents ; but the troth was, that with the aid of every able person, he .(the SecasrAtty at WAR) had found the present the best mode that could be 4d 'pied,, _coptiiitent ly with the dispatch which belonged to this and the proportion was formed out of the returns of the last year. The County of Inverness would now be called upon to furnish 58 men more than they would hive been called upon to do according to the mode in which this measure was•originally opened. Sir JAMES ST., CLAIR', ERSIT N E jolloWed the SE" CR RtAR IC at WAR, and agreed .with him . ,in 'the explanotipn. Mr. BRODIE (as we understood) observed, that the Present Bill was not precisely what he wished.. Mr. ,tr: DUNI) AS approved of the Bill, and thought that the proportion both for England and Seotland was the best that could be devised under all the circumstances ; and observed, that no other could be adopted without a new List, which would have been produdive of delay. Mr. IVl'DOwat.t. was of the same opinion. Mrs -K . /Wilt/11RD expressed his gratitude to the SECRETARY at WAR, for having brought forward this measure ; and he believed the• whole Country would feel with gratitude upon ,it.. He :believed it to be a measure which gratified very much the wishes of the people of this Country, and hone 'more than that part of it which gave. him birth. The question for, reading the Bill a third time was then put and carried tem. coti.--‘nd the Bill was passed. • - Mr. TIERNEY brought up a Petition-from the; Prisoners confin e d f or D e b t i n t h e . Xing's• Bendy -Prison, complaining of .the hardship of their aitua.; tion, and praying general relief,-'—Orilered to lieOn the "I'dble. The SECRETARY at WAR moved the Order . of the Day On - the Irish Additional .A'rmy Hill which heingread, lie said. he. should propose t h at the Bill be now read a second time ; .and.then, to. save, time, - that the . Bill . should imtnetliately, pass a Committee pro ; that the amendment; might be agreed to ; that the . ReiiOit should be iakto into ftirther consideration' on Monday ; and that then, if necessary, the Bill with' the- amendments shoold be. printed. Which .course was adopted' accordingly'. Mr. WtfettAta gave notice, that on' Monday he should make a Motion on the subjed of enabling the Lords ,Lieutenants Ireland,to make certain ;id.. vances on account oEVolunteers. The Irish Bank . :Note Bill was ordered to be read a third. time to-morrow, if then ingrossed. Mr. CORRY moved that tileAd, of the +o, +i,i - and +a of the. King, with reaped to the :Distil... Jeries of Ireland, be now read, which - he said be clid with a view of referring them; to. a. Committee 'of the whole House, and to submit some regulations' in the colledion of the Revenue in Mr. Lea asked, whether theßill now intended to be brOught .in upon this subjed, differed in any resped from the last ? Mr. Coy 'said, this was a Bill intended to ,regulate, the Colledion of the Revenue, and it was pruposed to contain some new regulations. Mr. LaE expressed a wish to learn what the new .regulations were. Mfr. CURRY observed, that the Vote now about to lie proposed was to, continue and amend the staid , A4lB, after which, if that Resolution should be voted,. it was his intention to move foe; leave to „brill:, in upon that,Resolution. .When the Bill blioold be introduced, he meant to move that it be 'Oll4, which tic erFrchetuicsi would c the must Sattsta4l4lPy mode ot the subjea. He was, how , ever, featly to explain the amendments now, if that was deemed expedient ; but perhaps the most :atiS• faftory mode would be to wait until the Bill was brought in. 'He •then moved a Resolution, that the said Ads be amended ; which passed. And the House being resumed, the Report was ordered tote received to.morrow. The Irish Militia Pay, and Cloathing Bill ws , , ordered to be read a third time to.morrow, if then engrossed. ' The Lottery Bill passed through a Committee.—. Report to.morrow. In a Committee on the Irish Duties Bill a clause was brought up by Mr. CORRY, read and agreed to, for altering the Duty on Saltpetre Ireland. Mr. CORRY proposed to fill up the blank for the commencement of the Import Duties with the 1.1.1 h of July, and that for the commencement of the Duties on the Stbck on hand, with the zzd of lune. —Agreed to. Mr. CORRY then proposed, that the Committee should report progress, and ask le,!ve to sit agaiti, in order , to give time for the insertion of' the Countervailing Duties on various articles which could not yet be ascertained.—. Agreed to. The House having resumed, the Cottnittee was ordered to sit again on Monday. • Adjourned at half past seven till to.morrow. hiAll.S. out. Artittvirt.•;' French 5 lihnlbutgh PRICE OF STOCKS, TIIIS' DAY 4T TWXLVE O'CLOCK. Consols 561 a sji Red, Ann. 5411 (Thulium 4i: 1-)s` THE SUN. QUIZ 01014* VAL3UM AVOILAT f LONDON, JULY z, 1803. OUR Deal Letter states, that on Thursday night a heavy- firing was heard on the French Coast coo nine to twelve o'clock, which was supposed to be produced by, L'immortafia Frigate firing upon Ibe. Enerny's Forts at /3oulogne. WE received this morning the ltioniteur of t ile. : . zBth, and the Brunets Paper of the 27th 11 ' 1 " The former contains an account of the pro' gress of the FIRST Cutout., on his journey to the Northern . Departments. He arrived ;it ~,: Amiens on Satuaiy List, and remained 1 11 ° 114 ' Sunday anti Monday. Some of the Addreticsi., which were presented to him and Madan e lap'. i ot r NAPARTE are very c ur i ous , .particularly that the Bishiip of All4lllO tO : the .latter. If it s os intended ironically Me Address is ada l irahV drawn up; but if the good Bishop.seriously mee ts to compliment the Lady,. it is hardly ~possible to imagine a more unlucky produaion. The Pre(t of the Sonune advises the .First Consul to lose n time in imposing the Yoke of Peace on the Fratc of England, and in proclaiming the Commercial In dependence of Europe on the ruin s of .Aibion. Prefed afterwards styles the First Consul-the WO of Mankind, end his Lady a complete Model forth' Female Sex, dec. &c. The French funds arc 49. lg. A Tx a Any of Reserve Bill llas passed the -Nov° of'Commons after very full ar i d m atu re discussioo) and we hove no doubt will pass through the_LlPP e House with the dispatch which the urgency and 1131 " portance of its ,objet dernabd. While we amigo° ready and willing to give our unqualified' testimoor tu'theability with which the SECILIZTAkT at WrAs brought forward and has ,vondutled the .Meo ut4 through the House, we cannot At the saine time h ot consider it as anael of justice to state to the 'Fithlic• that the-Plan was originally auggeoted by Mr. - PO" and Ministers =re induced to adopt and bring '` Inward by the spark of energy which was coCII OP nicated to them from his great mind ; and till who h ave rea d t h e P rocee di ngs o f t h e H ous e Commons will have seen, and seen/with ..aatiii %:‘ lion, that many improvements were 'suggested by Mr. Ptrr in the CoMmittee, all of which were i fll3 tnediately. and unanimously adopted. Much has been said, in and out of. Parliiil ler4 upon the danger of the Country, and there aq - li to , be no, inconsiderable difference of Sen timenr . tie the ,Subject. We are clearly of opinion that 11 ' . danger f r o m t h e threa . tened Invasion is not smel l ,/ but:do we therefore despond ?:No—God We are morally certain that were the danger ill 13 nitely greater th.in it is, there is both spirit to r, strength enough in the Empire to meet and 01 . i come it. 'Rut that the Spirit of the Nation 11 ; 0 U tl e ir r i o:s a e n d d ,, t f o ull t y he -proper pitch, it it necessary I d the amount of the danger should be ascertained, s oo this ground that .was think w th e e i C ia o v u e n .s t o ry m . e r .l ea t so i n s ofir a' find fault with the coodud of.-Ministers. 4 10 , are either themselves insensible to our actual tion, or they have not firmness or fortitude en7 i f to state i t as t h ey ought. W e are con fi dent th' l oe the People of. this .Country were. propel) ! 'eeni dlf QC their danger,, their Spirit would be tPC`v.