The Sun. — London, England, 1845-03-08 00:00:00

latire inter' g i ' the t ks again t t he E. a . .ured bydot , . , lifferentia. nbers hold t" much el ' . F f° a sePP - . - i surned tho difforent, r, but stirel).,'"°, tx the COndion na bled us to v. 13 the n not the questi.ot onies fur• then ho,sti,llo 3 .,,, n ent n' t " ould m ot , ings at Pr , btd °verl'nteP u sider ablB there o ula at i ro Price, if t - Stock por 0f the 11° : on lt he grower mem ber II :1 : ' as c °°Wsr esi e zh'test progrive Tie hope d dip 6 give a Gever n ,.;e Id be t ° , l " - io. , fit o f tne 3 ,l em ber od " ..k i e le t Hoe. ,rrl,o He erog ° e , if Le 14. ae• n oel ;sible to it. , and it. 00, !r, . ;t i ort _ ic ht af , for It Thi t ; / . e paid th is )aunied „ #f c 1,00 0,000, a !Ter so s ti d i " t 'e he aqd tTh t of, l ' enCe• * " ...- it. mbers 011)(1!be, e le.ot 0100 the , 0 0 could iron., ) J protectio,ovo, o f the Iv ' of the Vs, to t k n itted u' A to sense an. ifoti se o f the u bjeC t i n th e •%11 °P o f 13riti th o , or 1)1 t bo _i. ed for 06 ir o lil e ‘ pi on: v ie in in st'otheaor, it) goass eo:i 9 o,l ll: n n:: the 0 , fore , t he a sel l t° ,f o re, , 1 0 the re rotde e r the r 4 or" via° sta r , hav e 4g 4 r(fed AR an integral portion of the empire ; let th e m b44lll,4ltisbteFdnine advantages in the dispos a l of th e i r p ro d uce , conceded to Canada and other favoured cool- I , tr e or the _of visiting them with a mark of the displea eeteatee, tiovernment, which this " protective" duty in• se th e f England gave the same free laws and institutions t hen 'he e . "gar Produeine countries th . at her colonies enjoyed, th ' e ld find that these countries were the strongholds of tva ' ,. n it a ti'n in time of peace, and its right arm in time of r, han unfortunate event should occur.—( Hear. ) **P e to , OTT was of opinion that if these duties !the oteetrii,_heeduced, that reduction should be met by a gees,7oht advance upon some other article. But. t ( Sep ie , si h Put by the Hon. Member for Stockport was this : e ther, „ n i ,IZ these protective daties to have been removed alto ,iW beep'',t would be the conssquence? " Now he (Mr. their leld admit that, to this question, no direct answer v ere g,"h ; but, at the same time, it did appear to him it4tltipsh4:.ttlportPrit admissions on the subject of tho sugar Hat ed, t t'en made. Last year the Hon. Member for Newark t s oded e.,,uat House, that this protective duty was, in all cases, , te lta t. y thiLtleeost price of sugar. Now, he (Mr. E . sco . tt) begged iv e de, certainly never did uphold the principle of pro. , .'Y upon that ground. The reason he did support Iht it hPost e ctio o to ~ because he conceived it was a necessary l i fsfe eierie 'nose engaged in the trade, and in order to secure ' ,,„,"‘ber k of supply to the consumers in this countr , . erhtele".".stated so plainly by several Honourab . le t e the . t this duty was added to the cost price sconsumed, they f l indeed made t e 444 " s i s e ' tr c'eg and 'sl c il; , "e'er, hear ) serious case av h e a u f i a r r ofthe abolition of qd 'e s i' ri ght to do. However, he was . from thinking it t fts k e l Y thr ow th t once, and thus away with these duties a . - 041er , eir colonies overboard ; and, .undei these c;r -,,, eocld not support such a proposition. f ew st sre ' \ P l Y said his opinion was that if those differential o r it,. eestreyed, he had not the least doubt but that, in e tt i, ;53ears, the consumers would have to pay just as much t heY had now ; and theree re he totally denied :hat they Members Q p Aite put four or fire figures upon i t his r , ' a d Made out, .to satisfaction of the House, , t r ; llnf ' d o w” paid by ' the consumer. th e d. 'aid he had often observed that, upon same 'f'b k ' t ' e teen t „"'ehe. Hon. Baronet at the head of her Ma j esty's L 4,14111 thrind his co ll eagues took a very active part in the l ihl s I g len lic ese, while upoe other occasions they exto l() 4lophi,ires not le ss remarkable. When great and plau ek brae Y Or e xtraordinary ineenuity were the weapons Atte tee eht ete e i action, in the'share of the debate par "eo, t ." , Right Honourable Baronet and his sup itits'l9t ~,,„'„Pfdeed were they most active ; but upon other te Right tr" l as the discussion of that night, when "a ky ll ' t 't Baronet well knew that not all the powers o . 4 tase l L lN ci he possessed could make it appear that this 4 htie hi et t ek,,itgrierous and oppressive tax, theu, indeed, he `Of e 'as and permitted all those around him, whose 'lti ttl :r, h ear. anew could not damage his su Tess, to go on. race,Y the R ) A very ingenious speech had been made to t) t o ' btit t h at Member the late President of the Board of N 1 , 44 ele .'t Speech was remarkable, less for its applicabi 'l4;, uJeet under discussion, or the prudence of its th e No the deep personal interest which it was i ,e k i t kr, Gentleman had in the subject its . elf.— es tli ° th e a time that this sugar question was intro- Se sure to but a new concoction of the Hon. Gen \elNl !lie n re ; to appear in print in one of the morning t , ( iis 4l eh!' ' l5 very positive and dictatorial terms, the .4 1 4 ar ch this question should be handled by the House. ( ekt. 4 lei s eie) It was true the Hon. Gentleman was not kS t ' J tol connected with the present Govern- j, i. tee t, ether he was a greater lover of the h , e 7 ), it would of the sugar planter, upon this j Gt,e 150 t t be rather difficult to say. ear, hear.) was the representative of Newark ; but le!4ftere„ „would like to ask the Hon. Member what tlitieer-e"a`lhm• i nhabitants of that , town could have in u ke(4 tee eta ., Price of sugar ?—(Esear, hear, and a laugh.) . 6;141 1 '41 ) see what interest the planter had in doing llydthat The Noble Lord the Member for Liv . erpool, th i ' s tle routine of the duties of a State Minister, l e nge t 4:res a tax which could not be measured ; but ca t ,id ,`„ould say rather, that the arguments of the Il le"(a ae u , e question were such as could not be ,k $ e l , geter.) The Noble Lord said it would be ei; 4 „the s e ° ,,, 4 'e to act on possibilities ; but four years .k; t te e the fr of the then Government depended on the I h,ls et t faise ri eu se on this question, the Noble Lord had no t '°34t tn e te s' d at all, and upon his motion that Govern- fs'eklat ex and overturned.—( Hear, hear.) Well, a't fo r g et old not be measured, but let Hon. Members 0 [4'1. 0 4 that it was felt.—( Hear, and laughter.) ' e t wbai:ted to make a character for himself as a ;ht 4 i ner !_ s he (Mr. B.) would ask what sort of a Ni' i tri 41 , 1 114 i t he who would propose a tax, ~le f t te,q l att eh ,w a s one that could not be measured ?- 4 s e ts 'a 'lee is Such an admision should not be made. kelai, t koe itt ' e ms Was a tax whi h a should be measured, and Ind Hear, hear. ) The labourers in "asepshire and in Wiltshire, who paid for tiii'llhoeiel,t'cl half-Pennyworth of sugar out of their hard 01 4P k iti .; ° ''' what it was, for they it was who felt it : l it kt i k i t i l sk eitri 'l ee the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her keNlittld he (Mr. Bright) contended, should not N a l,t ta s) lit, and refuse the question put to him to- Yhi e hiv i ht ch he (Mr. Bright) could easily suggest e t? le ßei tee could be measured—it was this : they ~,10,1111,.,1, r eturns of all the sugar shipped to t his coun iletle:sqetle'.4 'efficient amount of remuneration should be ht4tsetToe th e 4 e returns ac cura t e . lie did not know wtoulerhenent would propose to d o thi s. in their °tile d suggest that supose Sir James k tt ftsa PaY to - 11 r Goulburn or Mr. Glad- Po t g e ttee; ee lOs 6d. per hundred weight k k‘ h th s t „‹ , eßet ti,l 'weight ' of sugar shipped from their 110%; tuip eri - -( Hear, hear, and laughter.) This kcti;ttlelleestitsy, ' a mentary ; hut the Parliament was not Cred i r ,' itint Peopleoutside of that House were very \ , %,,k0 t : 1 04 cheap sugar, though Members of t r t ; l e ti er se• dare whether the price of it was a penny t ha ' t i th P er lh.—( Hear, hear.) He was unde . r t tl wa Right Hon. Baronet opposite and his h Y' Placed in a humiliating position on this Os t , P ee r e ; ear) —and there was! no question upon : s "i'ts k t rise ' Pl ate ativit his mnd as more read 1 15 c seussi o on f i upon the w sugar duties. ily 4ir Th. a a. i , t the"ereia to his finer feelings for the interest of a •. exercise; but he (Mr. B.) did hope 01,): intfr: occasion, he would manifest a still deeper fe i rti tt h i etile s ' t Pl . the country.—(Hear, hear.) Yet eY that, in his opinion, persons who were Oka k > l 4 0I a t for the interest of a class, 1, 1 1:1 3 1,,R to a ax le l ek t soc •P teen Government who thought that a tax gh it could not be measured—( A laugh) e , tlqt a vot e in that House in favour of a men.- 1 it ) a at Riff the benefit of the country but a class. y p 11 1) I 11047! had stated that this tax would amount ie,' 'te e ‘ r " l yet no reason had been assigned for ~IR(1-1 the difficulty of procuring labour in the ePst't4sereiatir...,hear.) But, with reference to the East •„ \ e'iti cii `•(e ils 'a, no answer had been given—good, bad, • ,ej i t ta ti t 'ao st t er ,' . ) The late President of the Board ~A , „ former occasion, that he defended those of a want of sufficient labour and 's, he t'itliit':hen, if the Right Hon. Gentleman was r e asUre for sending back absentees, he i t ,l ie4,l, llt. e e fi en to di_ sa / . what other remedy he would WtOtt ee hls himself to the spoliation of the k i4 . t t,r rat of the planter.—(Hear, hear. ) ) tOere, s aid he w ou ld d e l ay th e H ouse w i t h e l se t • lie wou l d merely say that his belief t4t s of 1 4 7, W as to b e ta k en o ff fore i gn free-labour ' 1 article now, and in three or four or Nst,i!' 0 0r ," ° , 14 4 be ve r y near l y t h e same. He could tle i n t si en which h a d b een d rawn f rom t h e 1,V 141 1, ° le er Qlt et'e that th e lion. INlember for Stock tviitileteet e t t , e the cost of sugar to the consumer, te ° ', l f,f 3 qaestio; would lead them to infer. Kn ori y t ti kt sit he did not . agree with the Hon. Gen te,se sie d uuwn in believing that the Hon. Mem- V i st4 4:44Zedt ,anythir2g personal in what he said. it he Pitt a hi , he } believed the effect of the mea gner amount into the pockets of the s ni l lot ef ed that those Gentlemen, one of whom etesi: Ne rd the Exchequer, and another the late t o t h e f Trade, should draw cheques for '',, l °Y kl ir t h from their estates, and then allow kl.kk i tl. p e _"l".) sugar in the cheapest market they Ne tsi. v e t , ,, here was no want of urbanity in Thatlt great deal of truth in it. —( Hear, t ‘ etithey would plan would be less burdensome to e ete e ,„%ld get of all the intricacy which Naoii,,the Rs'wled;',,e to e possegs, and the planter would 1 ) \ ‘ 11 ; 411tiew Gentlemanof , - who spoke last had in stave-labour sugar and free-labour iiett:eite,llo.l,eschewed on his side of the House. lOo ttl ''etv,whicf an :, known to be impracticab . ( Hear, eted philosophy foisted into their Cus *l.4, s° . w ould - s e, 4 l:l Ati rie nd turn out to be utterly prepos t tl u t o wh i Zal: . him had proved, from the ff be d s hte Pri ce .ttlue great metropolis could th ,Pani to the West India planters for l i kee,s tti t ) rle , 4 7 . , Price of the sugar sold in the general \e \ ltZels e „lt,ht ee'`'..t'unted to 131. per ton during the last 1, me variation between one year and \\l PN,Z l4 llt o ' f q" was the amount which ought . to qkt to e protected interests of the colonies. rl;3tr that they . ought to give up their 'Sll 4 tlH,the , het to i ue question. The question was I t , it'ltit v le ave their colonies to exert their I'ilik t :llee' Pil e ; lev e the consumers of this country tp t est 1,. which they paid for sugary Even v je lt ei ste w eiln interest was entitled to protection, ,4',4hel,itier,jbY the sugar of the Mauritius, and 1 too hs 1011.,,' protecta"'t wets cheaper than in any part of ed by 10s. per cwt. ?—( Hear, ir e th tkcare he cluekaiovs me h t . to wat " was put to the Right Hon. Igh t eh him, and he never heard a 'tl eh e e "'l- Baronet seemed to dislike so %festle e it 'cf gin Hear,hear.) It was yk, tit t ,g t H on ger y.—( th glut • Baronet was forced by a ma t:t theattle which he disapproved of, t r Zs ti t ri ts ti,, lie kt leheHon. Baronet would, in another t I ta tr t.1, 41e e with pleasure and announce that l4 l le P i ta e? 'lev egr t 'Lder the proposed plan to exclude k'l t l AN k ' e he t nen t °W t . ' sugar, it was expedient to alter t i fteie.,e - (11 ' a nd Fat the sugar question on a fl 1 'lee' I st 'kr h t,4tOkt ti et, b e did ear ' ) tee ti ßh , h et not know whether the House was eee'l tth knew he was.—(Laughter.) . It i. yllees ri ght t Indians had to protection ? He ye es t ~ te seer, but to l3 protection ; and not merely to tt,ttta:Pikt De's.)something more like forty tYokti, , 4l )t ti 't : l ell, re, e , !theuld like to know if an . Act fitt,"a,„", o t o ";teting the source from which t!telelPteii,e.kh,f that Intivate his estate in Cumberland , 11 neighbours were at perfect It for labourers, whether he had not ye 'r benerh state were they brought in the ,tlegt 1 1 1441 k it Z Ing l egislation. Philanthropy was Oli l aj ti 'tteh t ° l'9 Pr s , B Wh en it cost nothing.—(lronical I,S k ethi P ee e f whe n good, but a low-priced article was 5 ; 4 1j o u () !R,ht legislated badly, that those lo e l ed ekid e protected. ~%\l',leit(fteiskeseeeejuvriderstood the amount of money Ite ti j e they c( 1 was about 20,000,0004., and 1 1 ,' he iir , e „tn pay 3,000 0001. a year for ere w a "`"" 0 01. in addition to what they yttli,"r4 se dg e question that the 2 0 ,000,00°4 Nb ee ' fi ee made by the consumer, said o,l'tth,4 h i `tti ,f,',nr Liverpool. It was paying the it op irli ea'ee slaves, which the lion. :Mem '"t, e tt k ts tl e fae.Uteg for their whistle. It was a I t , of ,11, 1 th e hear)—but whatever was its V.VO % H on When they Caine to ask what k e i Baronet, who was so good u e e amount of the duties, the I ' ,ll 6 ' Net t (i ftt n not able to revenue, eany swer, e: ' ,, t ie e hnle into the for an that 1,11;4 ~Isert„ fai j e - e " conceive, why he did not give t R4 ee wa s not Hear, hear. ) tthe w_ne't prepared to deny that some ski' ‘ thi t l i , h er,, ' , a e.e.e7,tiredia interest. He was not Protee,.o'irader to . the extent of not al okttieN te thet;vi.e,vvas fairly due. But if they Otts l 'it' l ler a " let th -t Indians, let them under e have the credit of giving t t 44 , ° Ple "e t alle ge d le staa Of that the reduction of the t b h e e ne_ts derived from the ro , h , e. g w e or a planters, and not the con tat' y riot L ich t t reduction, credit ought not fle e ,:'.t sa y t hey never had. If the planters , so at once ° Y Mr, p ARKIR, relative to beet 1 1, 4 tt i C0~'4'44111 THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, _MARCH 8, 1845. cause it was only reasonable that the public should know what the money was really for. The amendment was then withdrawn. Mr. HOGG rose, not for the purpose of entering into a dis cussion upon the course the Gsyerninent now proposed to pursue, but to express his concurrence in the alterations the Right Honourable Gentleman the Chancellor of the Ex chequer had made in his resolutions. He originally objected to the rule the Government wished to establish of ascertaining the quality cf sugar wi'hout reference to its colour. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer had since consented to fall in with his views, and ho had only now to thank that Right Hon. Gentleman for the attention he had paid to his suggestions. He had communicated the alteration to the Committee of the East India and China Association, from which it would be remembered he presented a petition to the House some short time age on the subject, and he was happy to say they were perfectly satisfied with the measure as it now stood. With regard to the practicability of working the measure, he thought that part of the matter ought to be left to the Government. Mr. C. WOOD wished the whole of the correspondence which had taken place between the Government and the Bra zilian authorities to be laid on the table of the House. The Right Hon Gentleman contended that one rate of duty ought to be applied to all sugars, and that no distinction ought to be made on account of saccharine matter, granulation, or colour. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that there would be no difficulty in making the classification with respect to white clayed sugar, as it was a commodity well known. Mr. F. BARING did not expect that there would have been a classification during the present year. He had always been in favour of the classification of sugar, considering it a sys tem that would ultimately he beneficial. He thought the quali fication by far the best mode. The duties were generally ad valorem, but the greatest inconvenience arose from that. He should be very glad if the Chancellor of the Exchequer would give the House a short estimate of the benefit he hoped to de rive from the ditties he now proposed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that his original expectation was that a greater quantity of the higher classes of Java sugar would he introduced into the country. There had, however, been no opportunity at present to bring it to the test, as no vessel had arrived from Manilla. Sir W. CLAY said that all the orders which had been sent out by merchants:to Java and Manilla were orders for a higher quality of sugar, for which, therefore, the higher duty would be paid. In compliment to the Hon. Member for Beverley the Government had partly given up the test of colour, but the explanation given by the Hon. Gentleman had not removed the difficulty. After a few words from Mr. C. WOOD, which were inaudible in the gallery, Mr. GLADSTONE said the roasin why the principle of discrimination had been given up before was, not because it was impracticable, but because the mode of discriminating was glaringly unjust. The effect of that mode was, that low sagars, which had undergone filtration, often had a high duty imposed on them, while upon many excellent sugars a low duty was charged. It appeared from the returns of the United States that a considerable quantity of sugar entered there at a higher rate of duty, and this proved that the principle of discrimination could not be carried out. The fact was conclusive as to the possibility of establishing a discriminating duty. It was as yet altogether matter of conjec ture what foreign sugar would he introduced into this country. Mr. HUME did not know whether the Hon. Member for Beverley had read the paper put into their hands a few days ago. The words of the Act of George IV. were, " clayed or otherwise refined sugar, so as to be equal to the quality of re fined sugar." These were the words demanded by the Hon. Member the other evening, and now conceded to him ; but he did not believe that they would remove the difficulty. Who was to say whether sugar was cloyed or not cloyed? Was the party to be a custom-house officer, a refiner, or a generul trader ? The volume to which he had referred pointed out the grossest contradictions on the part of men who were the best informed on the subject. R' hat conclusion had they come to ? That " they deemed it right to state the great difficulty existing in obtaining an unbiassed opinion on the question of fact, which sort of sugar should pay the higher, and which the lower, rate of duty. As to sugar that had undergone any process for the purpose o f discharging it of its impurities, and making it equal to clay e d sugar, it appeared impracticable to put in force the Act of the Ist of Geo. IV., and that the only course was to repeal that Act and impose one rate of duty." The whole of the volume pointed oat the utter impossibility of levying the duty. The owners of cargoes continually asked to know what they had to pay. Scarcely a cargo was introduced that did not pay the lower duty, a bond being taken for the payment of the dif ference, if it was found necessary ; in some cases the higher duty was paid to escape delay. If this was the case where there was only one distinction taken, he asked the Honourable Member for Beverley what he could ex pect under a plan so much more complicated? In compliance with the recommendation:of the Cemmissioners, that distinction was withdrawn, and from that day to this there had been no trouble at all. He had thought that the Right Hon. Baronet, in the simplification he was introducing into the Custom-house business of the country, would have considered more carefully the complicated plan he now proposed. He could not agree with the Hon. Member for Beverley as to the classification of sugars, unless it could be done in a manner that could not be mistaken. They might draw fine distinctions, but he (Mr. Hume) did not like these lines drawn between night and day. They,would have different distinctions drawn in London, Liver pool, and Bristol, and the whole plan would be impracticable to earry oat ; he regretted that so complicated a scheme should have been introduced. No two dealers would agree en one line of distinction, and the consequence would be, that some cargoes would be stopped, and some would be allowed to pass, thus producing utter confusion. When any doubt existed, they ought to encourage the importation of the best article, but these regulations would discourage the introduction of the highest qualities; he regretted that the Government should have gone against the recommendation of their own officers. He would rather take the opinions founded on their experience, than try any new; experiment ; he could only enter his protest against it. He had no objection to a revenue being raised on sager, provided it went into the Exchequer, but he did object to the indefinite premium and advantage that were given to particular interests. He thought that protection ought to be given to the West Indies, till they could be supplied with labour, or they would be unjustly treated. But there was no reason why this protection should be extended to the Mauritius and the East Indies; they could already command labour, and stood in a different position. He wished the Right Hon. Baronet had stated distinctly what was the amount of protection he would give, and then they would know what they had to trust to. He hoped the Hon. Member for Beverley would find reasons for the satisfaction he had expressed with the proposals of her Majesty's Go vernment. Mr. HOGG said the Hon. Member for Montrose had ex pressed astonishment that he should be satisfied with the plan of the Government. He did not understand what ought to be the measure of Parliamentary contentment ; the standard might be as difficult to ascertain as that of the qualities of sugar. He had made certain objections to the manner of levying the duties on sugar, and the Government had been kind enough to attend to those objections and to remove the cause of them. The Hon. Gentleman was astonished that he (Mr. Hogg) should be satisfied and should hold his tongue. He had heard of parties in a case, who having judge and jury with them, by their impudence in talking, had turned both against them. He believed he had the House with hire, he had got the Government with him, and that being the case he was perfectly content. It was proposed that the duties should be taken according to quality, but as this appeared likely to lead to great discussion, he, to guard against that difficulty, proposed that the word quality should not be left to the caprice of Custom-house officers, but rhould be defined by the Act of Parliament, to be founded on three elements, colour, percolation, and the amount of saccharine matter. This had been adopted ; the whole of the difficulty arose from this, that the Custom-house officers persevered in asserting that all sugars from the East Indies that had gone through a certain process of percolation by which they were freed from molasses, were liable to the higher duty; all the difficulty had arisen from the dogged adherence of the Custom-house officers to this practice of charging the higher duties on sugar that had undergone any purifying process. 4ir R. PEEL said he had been surprised by ono of the ob servations made by the Hon. Member for Montrose. He in ferred that the Hon. Member thought it desirable protection should be granted to the West Indian colonies, for some time at least, till they could be provided with the means of commanding labour, as they were placed in a peculiar difficulty, to which the East Indies were not liable. A protection might, therefore, be claimed by the West Indies, which could not with equal justice be extended to the East Indies. Then the Hon. Mem ber must revert to the practice under which different rates of duty were applied to West Indian and East Indian produce. Ile did think, till the Hon. Member for Montrose declared that there ought not to be any distinctive duties, it had been almost the unanimous opinion of the House that the produce of the West Indies should have some protection. Bat the Hon. Member now seemed to advocate a return to that practice under which differential and discriminating duties were levied on West and East Indian produce. He thought the Hon. Gentle man who sat below the Hon. Member would be rather sur prised at that doctrine. The lion. Gentleman had an objection to discriminating duties, but he said, if they could establish a diffe rential rate of duty on the higher and lower qualities of tea, then the principle of a discriminating duty would be perfectly just. Well, but the Government was about to apply that prin ciple. He had never concealed the difficulties of the case ; he had stated them the ether night, and the interval that had occurred since then had been employed by them in inquiring of the most experienced Government officers, whether this principle of a discriminating duty, with respect to the qualities of sugar, could be carried out. Tho opinion of these officers was that they ought not to abandon these discriminating duties. After considerable experience they said there would be nice shades of quality, which might create some difficulty, but that after some prac tice with respect to the great bulk of sugars imported, there would be no such difficulties as would be found in superable. Almost every Honourable Gentleman who had spoken, had admitted the principle of discriminating duties was not unjust. If they abandoned it now for an equal rate of ditty, ho belieied they could never revert to it again. They were about to make a considerable change in the sugar duties, and the experiment must be tried immediately, if . . it was to be tried at all. If they abandoned the discriminating duties" now, they could not revert to it on a future oceasion. Therefore, on the whole, the Government had decided that the experiment ought to be tried, because they believed the principle was a good one, and because the best experience proved that the difficulties attending its operation might be overcome. In Bristol, Liverpool, and London, the greater quantity of the sugar consumed in this country was landed. A small sleantity was brought into the Clyde, but the greatest amount, not less than four•tifths of the whole, was im ported into those three ports. Liverpool was now within ten hours of London, and by bringing the officers of these ports into close communication with each other, they hoped it would be possible to establish a unity of action, and conduct the exa mination of the sugars in such a manner that the trade would not be subjected to great injury. Thst was the conclusion the Government had drawn from the inquiries they had made since the subject was last under the consideration of the House. The preponderance of practical opinions was decidedly in favour of a trial of the experiment. He thought the House would have inferred front the general course of this debate, that opi nion was in favour of trying the experiment. He could not help thinking, too, that a great change was to be made in carrying on this manufacture, by the application of new machinery, greater skill, and fresh capital. They seuld not judge of the future state of this trade by the past. Sir WILLIAM CLAY thought the Right Honourable Baronet was bound to show some grounds for these differential duties. Ho thought the House and the country had a right to expect this. Seeing that the prime cost of sugar was not more than 108. per cwt., it was too much to impose a duty equal to 100 per cent, on the prime cost. He thought this was neither just to the people of England, nor prudent to the colonies themselves. He believed the time was fast approaching when British India would settle the question as to the comparative productiveness of slave and free labour. He believed that British India would produce far more than enough to make up any deficiency that might take place in the supply of sugar from the colonies. Amid loud cries of " divide, divide," the Honour able Baronet proceeded to say that he believed that this endeavour of the Government had only reference to purposes of revenue, but he believed that those purposes would be served better by the adoption of his ( Sir W. Clay's) plan. His object was to impose a duty of only 4s. Bd. per cwt., which was equal to 41. 13s. 4d. a ton, and by the adoption of this plan, no less a sum would be saved to the consumers in this country than 1060,000/. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor o f (Exchequer bad said that he wished to apply the whole of the experiment, that it was necessary to look at the matter in its full bearing, and as it affected every variety of interest. He (Sir W. Clay) was anxious_ that that sys tem should be tried, and he was confident that if applied to sugar it would be found to prove the truth of his position, and give a great boon to the consumer, without in the slightest de gree injuring the revenue, or increasing the price to the con sumer. By the experiment of putting a duty of 4s. BcL on sugar a benefit would be derived to the revenue, without im posing any additional burden on the consumer, and this he thought was the best mode of protection, and he, therefore, proposed it as an amendment.—( Loud cries of " Divide, divide.") The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that while he could not but allow the value of the labours of the lion. Baronet, yet he thought that a duty devolved on the House and the Government to secure a sufficient protection by the duty they imposed for the colonies ; and the main spirit of the argument lay, as he must submit, whether there was a sufficient protection provided by the amendment which the Hon. Baronet had proposed. This was the only position that he could submit on the present occasion. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) felt that it would be unfair to put the sugar produced by free labour in comparison with sugar which was the produce of our colonies. He did not think that it was necessarily a matter of course that there should be a rise of price in the article by the imposition of differential duties—( Hear, hear)—bnt, on the contrary, he be lieved that there would be a reduction in the price of which the consumer would derive the benefit. It was his opinion that the rise and fall of price did not depend on the amount of duty, but on the extent of the consumption. If the supply were to progress less than the amount of demand, the practice would be with sugar, as it had been proved in practice with every other article, the proportionate increase of con sumption would cause an increase in price. In his (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer's) opinion, the benefit to be derived from a fiscal measure ought to be divided between the pro ducer and the consumer. The producer would obtain more by the classification proposed by the Government than by the plan of the Hon. Baronet, and he believed that so far from the prices being enhanced by the imposition of the differential duties, they would on the contrary be reduced. He was satisfied of this, front the slight operation of the mea sure to which the House had agreed during the last session of Parliament, and this benefit, he thought, had been greatly re gulated by the amount of protection. He believed that if sufficient protection were given to our own colonies, both the East and West Indies would so increase in the amount of their supply that they would be able to provide for the whole of the wants of this country with an ample sufficiency, and that the price would be in accordance with the supply, while, if they threw additional obstacles and discouragement' in the way of the colonists, and prevented the full and fair effects of their efforts, their property would he so depressed that they would be unable to compete with the sugar brought frore other parts of the globe. The difference of circumstances in which the several sugar growers were placed would act very inju riously to the interests of the colonists and the quantity of sugar grown for the British market would be reduced, and a con siderable rise of price would ensue to the censosner.—(Loud cries of " Divide, divide.") The Committee divided, when there appeared— For the amendment ... ••• 69 Against it ... Majority against the amendment, —B3 On Clause 4th being read, Mr. M. GIBSON said that the Government adopted a highly disproportioned rate of duty on foreign as compared with colonial molasses, for, while they rated the latter at 51. 3d. 11. 3 a 6 t d ,.h d e u s t l y io ? u_ld likeper to cwt., know,th e y c h h a a d r g b e e d co the me offormerthe ei n ta o ;n 9 d d e I What, (Hear, hear.) What had become of the principle that they were to raise their duty according to the variation in the quali ties of the various sugars ? If they imposed a duty on foreign molasses proportioned to the quality of the article, they ought to impose a duty of 7s. on foreign molasses, and 51. 3d. on colonial. He did not ask them to equalize their duties, because that had been already disposed of. Let them deal with molasses as with sugar.—(Hear, hear.) He called upon the agricultural gentlemen to support him in his amendment. They had been calling for cheap molasses to feed stock, and hero was an opportunity for agricultural reduction, and, at the same time, to relieve the rest of the community from a heavy burden ; and this, too, by carrying out the very principles of thel Right Hon. Baronet. The Noble Lord the Member for Newark and other Gentlemen would, by supporting him oa that occasion, gain at least cheaper treacle for the agricultural labourer.—(Laughter.) He would, therefore, move that the duty on foreign molasses be reduced to 75., in order that they might adhere to the principle laid down by themselves on this question. He would move this as an amendment, upon the clause. Mr. EWART seconded the amendment. Mr. M. GlBSON—Perhaps the Right Hon.. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be inclined to state what amount he would accede to ?—(Laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER begged to remind the Hon. Member that the molasses he proposed to admit at a reduced duty was the produce of slave countries ; in fact, by the House acceding to this proposition they would be reversing what they had already agreed to- As to what had been said about agricultural distress—why, if any of the Hon. Members at his side of the House were to make such a proposition as that of the don. Member opposite, he would be the very first to oppose it.—(Laughter.) Mr. HUME hoped the Government would not be so hard hearted as to refuse this proposition, as molasses was an article which the poor starving wretches of this country used when they could not afford to bay butter. Mr. COLLETT rose amid loud cries of " Divide," and said he could not understand what the Chancellor of the Exchequer had stated. Mr. M. GIBSON said he would now move, that mo lasses imported from China, Java, and Manilla, or any other foreign country, whether under reciprocity treaties or other wise, be admitted at a duty of 7a. ; that he conceived would meet all the difficulties of the other side, and do no harm. Mr. EWA RT, amid renewed cries of " Divide," was un derstood to say, that he agreed with the Hon. Member that the high duty on molasses was a great hardship, Mr. WARBURTON.—If the sugar to be imported under the new regulations was to be in an improved state, and lot like muscovado ' then an additional supply of molasses would be required, and therefore the duty ought to be reduced. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he would have no objection to the amendment being introduced in its proper place in the Bill. Mr. WARBURTON.—It would be only fair to make the proposed redaction, for at present the different duties bore to each other were as 28s. was to 215 . , so was 7s. to ss. 3d. _ After a few words from Mr. BARING, the amendment was withdrawn. Mr. WILLIAMS hoped that the Government would allow the holders of stock time until the 14th of March, and give them the benefit of a draw back, in order that they might dispose of their stocks without loss. He should propose that the altera tion should commence upon the sth of April. Mr. HUME begged to ask if the Government would allow a drawback upon sugar in stock, purchased after a given day ? He thought the question was a very fair one. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that it had been the invariable practice, in changes of the Customs' duties, to carry them into effect without any drawback. If it were in the present instance allowed to eine class of traders, the great holders of sugar would also demand it. What the Government had pro posed was, that the Bill should not come into operation until the 14th of March, which was giving them a month from the original announcement. He hoped the House would not require the Government to extend the time to the sth of April.—( Hear, hear.) The probability was notorious, before the meeting of Parliament, that an alteration would be made in the sugar ditties. It was stated in connexion with the income tax. He would give the House a proof of this. Shortly before the meeting of Parliament he received a memorial signed by seventy houses in the sugar trade, and by the Chairman of the East India Association, the Chairman of the West India Asso ciation, Mr. Stirling, chairman of the Charnberof Commerce, and by every house in the sugar trade. The memorial was prepared in December, and set forth that, as a sum of not less than ten or twelve millions was annually invested in that trade, the memorialists approached the House most earnestly to entreat that any change which was contemplated should be announced early after the meeting of Parliament, and should eome into operation as speedily as possible.— (Haar, hear.) All that they proposed was acquiesced in. A month was ' g ives ; and he submitted that there was no reason why the time should be extended to the sth of April. Mr. WILLIAMS said that the memorialists were persons connected with the import trade, and they would not be such sufferers as the growers. He thought that it was only just and reasonable to give the growers a drawback upon the stock in hand. Mr. TIIORNELY said the gentlemen who had signed that memorial were importers, not dealers, and all their goods were sold in bond. Those who were most affected by the proposed alteration had made their purchases, believing that the existing duties would continue until the sth of July. Mr. SHELL said he had received a letter from a grocer in Clonmel, who stated there was not a bonded warehouse in Clonmel, and the consequence was that the grocers had been compelled to take a large quantity of sugar for home consump tion for Tipperary. New the Right Hon. Gentleman must see that injustice would be done to those parties by the proposition of the Government. Dr. BOWRING thought that if they were to establish a drawback on sugar, it would lead to great embarrassment, see ing that the Right Hon. Baronet proposed to take of the duty from 430 articles. Lord EBRINGTON said he had received letters from several of his constituents, complaining of the probable effect of the Government with respect to sugar. Lord SA NDON—Though he perfectly concurred in the po licy of the Governmegt, yet he thought it would press exceed ingly hard on certain parties, therefore he thought some draw back should be allowed. Mr. TRELAWNEY inquired if a drawback had not been allowed under similar circumstances? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said a draw back of 3e. had been allowed in 1838, und er similar circum stances, but in that case no notice was gi v en. The general rule with respect to Customs' articles was, that no return should b e made in the articles themselves, becaus e the dealers were not obliged to take those articles out of bon d u nless they required them. He thought the refiners had less to d read from the com petition of a low duty than any others , for th ey were a small body and could protect themselves by keeping up the price. Mr. BRIGHT considered that that debate ought to teach them to place their duties on a sound principle. That would prevent a renewal of those debates every year, and the merchant would know how to make his calculations, which he could not do now. After a few words from Colonel FOX, Mr. BRAMSTON said that if the Hon. and Gallant Mem ber divided the Hons., he would support him, b ecause he thought the case if the sugar re fi ners was a very h ard; one. Lord EBRINGTON thought that the Chancellor of the Ex chequer was best answered by his own resolutions. If the re. liners could keep up the price, what became of the advantage of the reduction of duty ? After a few observations from the CHANCELLOR of th e EXCHXQUER and Mr. HINDLIT, Sir R. PEEL said he trusted the Hon. Member would not divide the House. Mr. HUME advised his Gallant Friend not to divide the House. The amendment was then withd rawn, an d the resolution was agreed to. The House resumes!, and the Rep ort was ordered to be re ceived on Monday. Sir JAMES GRAHAM moved the secon d reading of the Justices' Clerks and Clerks of the P eace Bill. Mr. B. ESCOTT trusted that t he Ri g h t Hon. Baronet thes f e t c e o r n a d would postpone the second reading of the Bill to a f u t ure day. A f r c e w ad w in o g rd , Sir J. GRAHAM postponed it until W ednesday next. s from Mr. HENLEY, in opposition to The LORD ADVOCATE obtained leave to bring i n th e following Bids :—A Bill to simplify the form, and diminish the expense of obtaining infeftment in heritable property in Scot land ; and a Bill to facilitate the transmission and extinction of heritable securities for debt in Scotland. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE QUER, Mr. Cardwell was aided to the Hull Docks Committee. Mr. JOHN ABEL SMITH moved for copies of all corres pondence between her Majesty's Government and Captain Elliot, Sir Henry Pottinger, and others, relative to the differ ence of 406 chests of opium.—Agreed to. The House then adjourned, at One o'clock. lIEDWORTII LAMBTON, ESQ., M.P.—This gentle man, we are glad to hear, has returned from the Continent strong and renovated health. —Tyne Mercury. appearance of prisoners, where the offence imputed is bail able, and also the recognizances of witnesses in the case, by the principles we have ventured to prescribe; and the evil will be mitigated, if not wholly removed. STANDARD. —Mr. Williams has not much reason to exult in the effect of his attempt to insult the Duke of Newcastle. His display of last night did not greatly mend his condition, while it gave to the Earl of Lincoln an oppor tunity of performing the difficult task of pronouncing a more handsome and eloquent vindication of himself and of his noble father, than on Thursday —a more com plete vindication was impossible. Mr. Hume, too, came out very honourably last night, and fairly left the Member for Coventry upon his back, explaining that he (Mr. Hume) had dissuaded his friend from making the motion, and had earnestly advised him "to be sure of his facts," of which it appeared, by Mr. Hume's admis sion, that he was anything but sure. We are not much in the habit of recommending the gnomai of Mr. Joseph Hume, but in this case we are happy to press his advice upon Members of Parliament. If Mr. benjamin D'lsraeli had only anticipated it, he would not be in his present pitiable but, we fear, unpitied plight. True, with orators of a certain class, the care about facts would involve a serious sacritlce. Incapable of commanding attention by learning, character, sense, or real eloquence, they can obtain hearers only by the attraction of startling personalities, founded upon extraordinary facts, but extraordinary facts are commonly no facts at all; they are, for the most part, of that class of propositions for which we have a short and ugly name. And how are the ignorant, obscure, dull, and merely pert to perform the part of statesmen, if precluded from this resource? The public it may be said, can do without them —this is very well, but can they do without the public? BRISTOL SUGAR MARKET, MARCH 7.—Nothing whatever is doing in our market, nor will there be until the trade know the final intentions of Government, respecting the duties. From what transpired in the House, however, last evening, it now seems evident that the Minister intends to adhere to his original proposition as regards the classifica tion of sugars—a plan full of difficulties and objections, as acknowledged by all practical and unprejudiced parties con versant with the sugar trade.—Bristol Mercury. STOCKTON-ON-TEES, MARCH 7.—The brig Alpha, of Whitbv, struck on Shields Bar in co m i ng ou t, an d put into the tees, this afternoon, leaky. COAL 11TAIR8ET. Prices per ton at the close of the market :—Adair's Main, 15s 6d; Buddle's West Hartley, 17s ; Hasting's Hartley, 16s 6d ; Holvwell Main, 17s 6d ; Jarrow low Main, 158 6d ; Morrison's Hartley, 158; Nelson's West Hartley, 16s 6d; Ord's Redheugh, 15s 6d ; Pott's Primrose, 15s; Tanfield Moor, 19s 6d ; Taylor's West Hartley, 168 6d ; Townley, 16s 6d ; Twizell Main, 15s 6d; Wylam, 15s 9d; W.E., Bell and Rob son, 17s ; Bewicke and Co., 18s 6d ; Gosforth, 188 3d ; Heaton, ISs ; Hotspur, 17s 6d; Killingworth, 178 6d ; New maroh, 17e; Urpeth, ltis ; Eden Main, 198; Braddyll's Het ton, 20s 3d ; Hougtall, IBs ; lletton, 20s 3d ; Lambton, 20s; Morrison, 17s 9d ; Pemberton, 18s ; Russell's Hetton, 20s ; Stewart's 20s 6d ; Caradoc, 20s ; Heughhall, 188 3d ; Kelloe, 19s ; Trimdon, 208; Adelaide, 19s ; Brown's Deanery, 18s 6d ; Cowndon Tees, 18s 3d ; Seymour Tees, 18s 9d ; The Dukes, 18s 6d ; Hartley, 168; Lewiss Merthyr 21s 6d ; Tenant's, 178 6d; Derwent-water Hartley, 15s 6d; Sidney's Hartley, 16s 6d ; West Hartley Netherton, 16s 6d.—Ships arrived, 63. RAILWAY COMMITTEES. The Sub-Committee, No. 3, resumed its sittings yes: terday, in Committee-room No. 8. Present —Mr, AgliOnby, chairman, Mr. T. Egerton, Mr. Stansfield, Mr. Thoinely, and Mr. E. Buller. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the duty on beet sugar was an excise duty, and that was the reason why it was not mentioned in the resolutions. It was his intention in the course of a few days to introduce a re solution, making a proportionate reduction on sugar the pro duce of beet. The House then went into Committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then rose for the purpose of introducing his sugar resolutions, and said that with regard to the policy of enforcing a distinctive ditty on different classes of sugar, he thought it right to avail himself of the opportunity to explain to the House the reasons why he deemed it advisable to adhere in substance to the course pro. posed by her Majesty's Government, and he would ant suffer himself to be drawn aside ft - em his task by anything that had been said in the preliminary discussion. He would admit, at once, that in attempting to impose a discriminating duty on sugar according to its quality, he was undertaking a subject which was attended with considerable difficulty—( Ilear)— and he never concealed from himself, nor did he now, that it was always a matter of difficulty to impose a duty of that description, and it was particularly difficult where the course to be pursued was a departure from the lordinary practice. But it was admitted generally by those who were disposed to take a different ♦iew of this question from his own, that a distinctive duty on sugar was in itself a desirable object, and that a duty proportionate to the quality of the sugar was just and perfectly equitable in principle ; and it was one, which if it could be practically introduced, would be fair to. wards every interest. concerned in the decision of the question. It was also generally admitted that there ought to be some distinction between refined sugar introduced into this country and that which might Ise introduced in a state short of refined ; and he was anxious that the Committee should bear in mind those admissions with regard to what should fall from him. The question that would remain for the decision of the Com mittee was whether they would, in consideration of the diffi culties attending the introduction of two distinctive duties, they would abandon a measure which, viewed in the abstract, was just in principle and desirable for every interest concerned?—( Hear. hear.) The Committee should bear in mind the effect of the decision they would arrive at. They were now for the first time practically entering into a new era with regard to the sugar defies. They were for the first time admitting into competition with the sugar, the produce of their own colonies, the produce of certain classes of sugar, the produce of foreign labour. Now they knew from experience that there were different classes of foreign sugar, some being of a finer quality in respect of classification than the corresponding quality of sugar produced in their own colo nies.—( Hear, hear. ' It had been already observed that the finer quality of sugar would necessarily come into the markets of this country, while the lower descrip tions of raw and clayed sugar would not be introduced. They had found it necessary to impose a distinctive duty upon the sugar of their own colonies, arid therefore they could not do otherwise with regard to the foreign produce. Besides, by imposing a lower duty on the sugars consumed by the poorer classes, they were conferring a great benefit upon those classes. As they were now about to make a change in the system, they ought not to abandon the chance of the improvement which he proposed, and which was equitable in principle and just to all classes. To equalise the duty on refined and clayed sugar would cause the refined sugar to be introduced into this coun try under the low duty, and thence exported with a higher draw back ; and therefore he thought that proposition would not be introduced into the present discussion. The distinction be tween refined and clayed augers had been hitherto clearly marked; and whatever the difficulties they might have in in troducing a new system, it must be remembered that they had hitherto been acting upon a system of distinctive duties. It would, he had no doubt, be alleged that a similar principle to what he proposed had been tried before, and had been abandoned. But that was not at all conclusive. The system which was abandoned in 1823 had worked well for twenty years. There was no difficulty in the distinction between muscovado and clayed sugars, whilst it was confined to the West Iddies. But when it was attempted to apply a similar rule to the East Indies, difficulties arose which led to a change in the plan on which the duty was imposed. It was attempted, on the part of the West Indies, to show that all sugar which came from the West Indies was clayed, and ought to be excluded from the lower duty, and therefore, to benefit the West Indians, an additional duty of 10s. per cwt. was laid upon all East India sugar; but let them see what was the practice of other countries as to distinctive duties on sugar. They had before the House a :comparison of several tariffs, which was prepared by the industry of a gentleman employed by the Government, and he wished the Gentlemen who thought the system impracticable would look to that followed in other countries which imported sugar. In most of these the same distinctions were used as now possessed. In Denmark, the duty on raw brown clayed sugars was lOs. per cwt. On raw white clayed sugar it was Bs. 3d. per cwt. On others, the duty was altogether prohibitory. In Sweden the duty on refined was 4s. ; on white powdered, 2s. 6d. ; on yellow brown, ls. He would not go into a detail of the tariffs of France and the United States, which, next to this country, were the greatest consumers of imported sugars. France im ported annually 85,000 tons, and the United States 65,000. They also employed this system of distinction, which was found to effect its object, and without complaint. In France the distinction was classified into four types, and in the United States he found in the tariff the same threefold division which was contained in these resolutions. Now he did not think so badly of the business of the House and of the country as that we could not carry into effect a system which was found practicable in other countries, in which, certainly, the observance of the law was not more faithful on the part of the public servants, and of those who paid the duties, than in this country. He had, therefore, the strongest reason to believe that a distinctive duty would be found practicable, and it was admitted by all to be equitable. The next point was, what was the opinion of those in this country wh• arc acquainted with the subject ? Those to vrho. - n the Government must look on questions of this kind—that is, the Customs—were they favourable to the plan? They had the report of the Chairman of the Customs to that effect. The evidence of the officers who had been examined was—not that there was no difficulty—but that the difficulties were net in any degree insurmountable, and on the whole they thought that the attempt ought to be made. Nor had he confine] his inquiries to those who were connected with the Government, and who might be disposed to concur in the views of the Go vernment. But he had pat himself in communication with persons who were practically acquainted with the trade; some said that the plan was impracticable; others thought there were difficulties, bet that the plan was nevertheles both prac ticable and expedient. But he found from the admissions of those who were most opposed to it, that their opinions were not altogether to be relied on ; and, in fact, it was the prac tice of the trade, to make the same distinc tions in buying and selling. He had also acquired new knowledge as to the practice in respect to Java sugar, which was divided into twenty sorts, and these were judged of from samples sent in numbered boxes to this country. The buyer selected the quantity he wished for, and the number being sent out to Java, the order was executed ac cordingly. 'What was practicable between buyer and seller, could not be impracticable for the purpose of duty. He had also the advantage of a meeting at Liverpool, which was open to all connected with the trade, and a majo rity, though certainly a small one, decided in favour of the plan. It was thought at that meeting that the chief difficulty would be in this, that the officers of the Customs at the out ports might have different opinions as to the qualities from the officers in London, and that this would lead to confusion. But it was to be recollected that the outports where sugar was im ported were but few, and were not now at a great distance from London in regard to time. London imported one-fifth whole quantity, and Liverpool another fifth ; and there were, besides, only four or five ports for the importation of sugar. Therefore, whatever objections there might formerly have been, did not exist now. The words which he had introduced into the resolutions were—that the sugars should be " dis tinctly marked as white clayedor sugars equal to white clayed," in order to shut out any question as to colour; and in the Bill which would be brought in to give effect to the resolutions, care would be taken to prevent colour being made the test of attaching the duty.—( Hear, hear.) In that he was supported by the highest authorities--amongst others by Mr. Deacon Hume, a man who had spent the whole of his life in connexion with the subject. Relying on such authority, on that of several Boards of Trade, and on that of those who preceded him in the office which he held, he was convinced that it was for the in terest of the consumer, the grower, and the dealer, that the distinctions which he introduced should be maintained. Mr. HUME did not wish at that moment to enter into a debate. But he would suggest that time should be given to the growers and others to dispose of the stock which they had in hand. Mr. F. RARING was understood to say that the resolu tions might be taken now, and that the suggestion of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) might be introduced in the Bill. Sir R. PEEL said that a clause might be added at the end, according to the suggestion of the Hon. Member for Bever:ey. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that it would not be expedient to extend long the time before the Bill should come into operation. Mr. M. GIBSON said that the preamble of the resolutions stated that the purpose of the duties was to raise a supply for her Majesty ; whereas, it was avowed by the Government that one of the objects was to give a bounty to the growers of sugar in the West Indies. Now he thought the preamble ought to state the whole of the objects.--(Hear.) Mr. HUME apprehended that as a Committee of Ways and Means could only vote supplies for her Majesty, they could not adopt measures to raise money to put into the pockets of West India proprietors. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said they had power to vote the money, because it was for the purposes of the Crown. Mr. HUNIE protested that they had not. Mr. WARD asked if it ought not to be distinctly stated what pert of the rate went to the Crown, and what part went into the pockets of the producer? Mr. WILLIAMS thought the resolution answered the question put by the Hon. Member, because it stated how much was saved for the public service, and how much was raised for the use of the West India proprietors. Lord SANDON said all the money raised would, in fact, go to the Crown.—( Laughter. ) _ . Mr. M. Gig - SOS moved the insertion of the following words, after the word "Majesty t"" For the purpose of giving a bounty to the growers of sugar in the colonies." This, he thought, would make the rate intelligible to the public. Mr. GREENE ruled that the amendment could not be received. Mr. M. GIBSON said he certainly heard the Chairman, the last time they were in a Committee on Ways and Means, put the first resolution towards raising the supplies granted to her Majesty, that •' in lieu of the duties of customs there be levied the following duties on sugar." The resolution was car ried and afterwards withdrawn. They were now going to move a resolution for the benefit of the colonists, and, there fore, he presumed it was the intention of the Government to abandon the former resolution. It was, therefore, hard that he could not move an amendment to the original resolution. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought the Hon. Gentleman could not be serious, and if he were not, he could only tell him that this was not the time to joke. They were then in a Committee of Ways and Means for granting her Majesty supplies, arid it did not matter in what terms they framed their resolutions. _ _ Mr. BRIGHT protested against the Right Hon. Gentleman assuming the amendment to be ajest. He did not think it was a joke at all, for the Hon. Gentleman who had brought forward this question was the representative of a large manufacturing constituency, whose trade with Brazil would be totally de stroyed if the resolution were agreed to.—( Hear, hear.) He must protest against this hop, skip, and a jumpsort of a manner of voting away the public money for the service of the West India planter; and instead of meeting the amendment by calling it a joke, it would be much better for the Government to grapple with it at once. Sir ROBERT PEEL entreated the Hon. Member for Maechester not to persist in interfering with the usual course of business of the House. Mr. M. GIBSON said, if the Chairman ruled that he was not in order with his amendment, of course he could not per sist in it. It was said that his amendment was at variance with the usual practice of the House. Now, it was admitted that a Committee of Ways and Means would violate the spirit of their rules if it interfered with the matters connected with trade. The distinction between a Committee of the whole House and a Committee of Ways and Means, he understood to this:—in a Committee of Ways and Means they must confine themselves to voting supplies to her Majesty's Go vernment ; in a Committee of the whole House, they could pass resolutions regulating or relating to trade. He therefore thought it would be more regular that they should agree to the present resolution in a Committee of the whole House, and not in a Committee of Ways and Means. It was a hard case that he was not permitted to add those words, be. birro 15bition FHE FUNDS-(CLOSING PRICES ONE - ------•/ CLOSIN( PRICES OF BRITISH FUNDS. O'CLOCK. PRICES. 3 per Cent. Consols Consols for Acc0unt..... Exchequer Bills, 1,000/., 1 1 ,(1..... 65 63 65 pm. 65 Ditto 5001. . .. -- pm. Ditto Small .. pm. Ditto Advertised pm- ONE CLOSING PRICES OF FOREIGN FUNDS. O'CLOCK. PRICEs. Brazilian Bonds Columbian Bonds, ex Venezuela l4 14 Mexican, 5 per Cent. 1837 ...... Ditto. Account r4,k: 43 Portuguese Bonds, 5 per Cent Ditto, Converted 6B 67 8 681 68 Ditto, Account Russian Bonds Spanish 5 per Cent. 1840. Ditto, Account. Ditto 1841 28% 28 1 A Ditto, Passive Ditto, Deferred...... ........... Ditto 3 per Cent. Ditto, Account 4 1 14 41 Belgian Bonds, 4 1 /, per Cent — 101% Dutch, 2 1 / 2 per Cent Ditto Account 63% 1 63% Ditto, 4 per Cent., Certific 9 9 1,0,VA 99 PRICES OF PAID. AT ONE O'CLO CK. CLOSING RAILWAY SHARES PRICES. Birming. and Gloucesterloo 134 133 Bristol and Exeter ..... 70 ...8214 84 83 82 1 / • 8214 € l " Ditto New Bristol and Gloucester... 30 CalJdonian Cambridge and Lincoln 1 1 ,4. 3% 4 Chester and Holyboad... 5 Chichester and Brighton 5 Ciiurnet Valley Cornwall Direct Northern Dublin and Belfast June. 2% 6 14 Dublin and Galway 2 14...... 2;', 3 ... ...... ... Eastern Counties 141. 165.... 181 18 Eastern Union lO .. Ditto Extension Great South. and West 2 614 4 11% 189 7 41 (Ireland) Ditto Extension Great North of England..100 Ditto New Great Western BO ... Ditto 1 / 2 Shares Guildford, Farn'm,Ports. 2% ••• •• 514 -- Harwich Hull and Selby Ditto Quarter Shares 121 2 0 14 214 211 20 1 Do. Half Shares Kendal and Windermere 1 1 / 2 51,! Lancaster and Carlisle... 15 London and Binninghm (Stock)... Do. Quarters London and Brighton... 50 London and Croydon, 13/. 15s. 9d. 18 1 4 l B l4 Do. Guaranteed 5 per Cent. London and S. Western 41/6a 10d 80 London and York 2,4 7% 63! 1 6% Manchester and Leeds... 73 149 147 147 Do. Sixteenths 2% 714 Manchester and Birmin. 40 Do. Quarters Midland 100 l2B 129 12714... Do. New Newcastle and Darling ton Junction ...... ...... 24 ...... Do. New Brandling... 10 Newcastle and Berwick 1% 1 43 4 North British Do. New North Kent Rugby, Worstr, & Tring 1 Sheffield and Manches... 82 1 / 2 — Do. Quarter Shares... 8 Shrews., Wolverhamp., Dudley, and Birm 9 l /4 . . 314%14 South Eastern & Dover 33/ 2s 4d... 41 1 4 42 Do., No. 2. Do., No. 3 South Wales 2 l / 2...... 5 1 / i l / 2 Trent Valley 2 .. 22 1 / 2 22 Waterford and Kilkenny 1 ...... 2% 3 1 4 Yarmouth and Norwich. 20 York and North Midland 50 Do. Selby Do. Extension FRENCH RAILWAYS. Boulogne and Amien5... 2 Bordeaux and Toulouse 2 Bordeaux, Toulouse, and Cette Dieppe and Paris June. 2 ...... 2A Great North. of France.. 4 Lyons and Avignon 2 Orleans and Vierzou ... 2 ...... 17 Orleans and Bordeaux... 2 ... faris and Ly 4 g PP ons 2 Paris and Orleans 2O Paris and Rouen Rouen and Havre Tours and Nantes 1 JOINT STOCK BA., 11. S. London & Westminster. 20 50 1 4 451 A 31% SPIRIT of th , -! PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. GLOBE.—It becomes increasingly manifest that, in the case of wealthy offenders, the public justice of the country requires to be guarded against evasion by more stringent se• curities than are at present provided by the law. We do not object to the discretion vested in magistrates to take bail; al though, in most instances, this discretion operates in favour of the rich, while the poor person is seldom able to obtain the re quired sureties, and is therefore compelled to remain in prison until his trial. That which is requisite to secure the appear ance of the party is, in the great majority of cases, lost sight of by the committing magistrate. The amount of bail which would be deemed heavy, if not oppressive, in the case of a working man, is of trifling import to one of the higher classes ofsociety. It is, therefore, obvious that .for the security of equal justice in the administration of the laws, the amount of the recognizances in which parties are held fur the appearance of a prisoner at the sessions or assizes, there to answer the charge on which he is committed, should bear a reason able proportion to the nature of the charge and his position in society. Where this rule is not observed, the preliminary proceedings are a delusion. The prosecutor is subjected to much inconvenience and expense in preparing for and at tending the court, to perform the duty cast upon him; and he is frequently mocked by the escape of the prisoner, through the neglect of the magistrate,who was bound by his office to use due caution that the ends of justice were not frustrated by his means. These observations are not of a mere general cha racter. They originate in, and are designed to apply to, a glaring defeat of justice by the escape of a person charged with a very serious offence, through the facilities afforded by insufficient bail. In November last the daughter of a wealthy medical gentleman at Brentwood was charged with stealing a considerable quantity of silk, the property of Messrs. Taylor, drapers, of that town. The mode in which the robbery was alleged to have been perpe trated was not less artful than flagitious. A mes sage was sent to the tradesmen, directing that a number of rolls of silk, of different colours, should be sent to the house of the accused party's father, for inspection. They were sent. The youth by whom they were conveyed was desired to leave them. The whole of the rolls were returned, with an intimation that none of them would suit, and with a request to the trades men that others might be sent. Some circumstances induced a belief that the pieces of silk, when returned, were short of the quantities which left the shop. The precaution was therefore taken of carefully measuring and placing distinctive marks on the pieces which constituted those sent on the se cond occasion. These rolls were also returned, and were immediately examined. A deficiency in several of the lengths was detected. One of the principals forthwith proceeded to the house, and the object of his visit was stated. The charge was, of course, denied. But, strong in his conviction that the grounds of his accusation were but too valid, he in sisted on passing up stairs to a room whence he heard a noise, which convinced him that it was the scene of bustle and alarm. The embers of what had manifestly been a quantity of silk, recently consumed, were found on the fire and on the hearth. Other strongly corroborative evi dence was adduced, and the accused lady was committed for trial at the sessions. Bail was, however, taken for the ap pearance of the prisoner, and she was released. At the ses sions, the illness of the lady was urged upon the Court as a reason for postponing the trial ; and the recognizances were enlarged, and an arrangement was entered into that the accused party should be tried at the Winter As size. The Winter Assize came in due course, but not so the accused lady. Some ingenious pretext was urged ; the trial was postponed ; and the recognizances again enlarged. The Spring Assize arrived. The Court was opened " with the usual solemnities." The grand jury were charged, and had retired to their chamber ; and Mr. Straight, the deputy clerk of assize, called upon Helen Mackril Richardson to surrender to take her trial. No answer was, however, returned. A bench warrant was ap plied for by Mr. Ryland for the apprehension of the fugitive from justice. This was, however, but capping the climax. An officer proceeded to Brentwood with all imaginable speed. He bad, we need hardly say, his labour for his pains. The lady—as was well known to every one but those who ought to have foreseen, and guarded against, such an event—was safely lodged in some distant retreat, where she was not likely to be discovered, and where, if discovered, the warrant of the Court was powerless. We can understand, and readily excuse, the feelings of the respectable parent who has chosen rather to pay the amount of the recogni zances into which he and his friend entered for the appear ance in Court of his child. But these private feelings, how ever amiable and natural, ought not to be recognised by the magistrate, however much they may be commisserated by the man. It is because of the strength of those feelings, and the ability of the individual to pay for their indulgence, unless guarded against by the amount of the required sureties, that we contend for the propriety of regulating the bail by the position in society of the party in whose behalf it is tendered. The: object proposed is to secure the production of the prisoner at the trial. That object the magistrate is bound to effect by the means which the law has placed within his discretion. Increased precautions are also called for in the case of witnesses. These are " bound over "by the com mitting magistrate to appear and give evidence before the grand jury, and if the bill be found, at the trial of the pri soner. But the amount of recognizances ought to be regu lated by the rank and condition of the accused—the nature of the charge—and the circumstances of the witnesses. Unless these be taken into account, the recognizances, so far as ensuring the ends of justice by a due prosecution of the charge—are not worth a straw. Should getting the principal witness or witnesses out of the way be deemed advisable, and they be of the class who may be acted upon by a bribe, this mode of evading justice is rendered perfectly easy. The accused will then surrender to take his trial, if a bill has been found—quite aware that the witness on whose evidence the case rests has disposed of himself; or, if the imputed crime be felony, and the bill is to be presented to the grand jury at the same sessions or assizes lie their trial was appointed to take place, the accused is equally at ease. His wealthy friends have interposed, and the witness or witnesses on whose evidence the charge against him rests, fail to appear. The Court pro nounces it " a very extraordinary proceeding;" and the ac cused party leaves the hall of justice amid the congratulations of friends. These scenes have become of frequent recurrence, and, whenever they do occur, interfere with the impa rtial ad ministration of justice. Until the Legislature shall interpose,. ate and by the appointment of a public prosecutor, relieve private individuals from the expense, and preserve public justice from the danger of having its course interrupted by the pre • sent system, let magistrates use the discretion with which they are invested, and apportion the amount of bail for the CORNWALL RAILWAY. The Committee proceeded with the petition from the promoters of this railway. The Committee proceeded with the evidence upon the promoters' plans. Some discussion arose as to the situa tion of some powder mills. It was alleged in a petition, presente6l by a Mr. Thomas, but upon which the Com mittee had decided that no ono could appear, that cer tain buildings had been omitted. It appeared that a small building about the size of a pig-sty had been omitted. 47 31 14 1 4 17 4 1 4 314 42 11 1 ; 5 c s i; 23 3 1 A 27',4 Mr. BurnsE contended that the promoters could not answer this objection, inasmuch as they had seen no allegation respecting it. The CHAIRMAN said the duty of the Committee was to ascertain whether the standing orders had been complied with. 671{ 2 16 2 5 4 65/9 Standing orders not complied with in the above respect. FRIDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE. ST. JAMES'S PALACE, MAnot 5,1843. The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of Knighthood upon Captain John Hamilton, late of her Ma jesty's Packet Service. CROWN-OFFICE, MARceL 6. MEMBER RETUILNED TO SERVE IN THIS PREQF.NT PARLIAMENT. Borough of Shaftesbury—Richard Brinsley Sheridan, Esq., in the room of Henry Howard, Esq., commonly called Lord Howard, now Earl o f Effi ng h am, called up to . tha House of Piers. WHITEHALL, MAacit 6. The Queen has been pleased to present the Rev. Thomas Bradley Paget, A.M., to the vicarage of Welton corn Mel ton, in the county and diocese of York, void by the death of the Rev. Henry William Champney& WHITEHALL, MARCH 7. The Queen has been pleased to constitute and appoint Charles leaves, Esq., Advocate, to be Sheriff Depute and Steward Depute of the Sheriffdorns or Stewartries of Orkney and Zetland, in the room of James Allan Mac,onochie, Esq., deceased. WAR-OFFICE, MARCH 7. 14th Regiment of Foot—B. Drew, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, 'rice Graham, promoted in the 31st Foot, March 7. 19th Foot--Capt. F. Deacon, from half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice T. Beckham, who exchanges, March 8. 31st Foot—Ensign J. 11. Graham, from the 14th Foot, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Shaw, who retires, March 7. 90th Foot—Captain A. Trollope, from half-pay 20th Light Dragoons, to be Captain, vice G. 1). Bowyer, who exchanges; Lieut. F. Woodgate to be Captain, by purchase, vice Trollope, who retires; Ensign It. Grove to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Woodgate; J. Perrin, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Grove, March 7. 95th Foot—Lieutenant G. J. Dewdall to be Adjutant, vice Cobbe, who resigns the Adjutantcy only, March 7. UNATTACTIED.—Lieut. F. Deacon, from 19th Foot, to be Captain, without purchase, March 7. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, MARCH 6. Corps of Royal Engineers—Second Captain C. Rose to be Captain, vice Henderson, deceased ; First Lieut. IV. C. Had den to be Second Captain, vice Rose, Dec. 26 ; Second Lieut. H. Grain to be First Lieutenant, vice Iladden, Feb. 22. MEMORANDUIL—The date of the promotion of the under mentioned officer has been altered, thus :—Lient. Boucher, Dec. 26. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Middlesex. G. R. ;Robinson, Esq., to be Deputy-Lieutenant ; I'. T. Clarke, Esq., to be Deputy-Lieutenant, Feb. 28. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of Derbyshire. T. W. Evans, Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant, karch 4. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Rosa-shire,. J. E. Baillie, Esq.. to be Deputy Lieutenant; J. Matheson, Esq., M.P., to be Deputy Lieutenant; 11. M. Fowler, Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant ; R. B. E. MacLeod, jun., Esq , to be Deputy Lieutenant ; G. Ross, Esq., to be Deputy Lieu tenant, March 5. WHITEHALL, l'ilAncut The Lord Chancellor has appointed John Whidborne, of Teigninouth, in the county of Devon, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the high Court of Chancery. BANKRUPTS. Frederick West, bootmaker, Southampton, to surrender March 18 and April 22, at twelve, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basingliall-street ; Mackey and Girdlestoue, Southampton; Smith and Atkins, Sergeants' Inn, Fleet street, London. William Spencer, brewer, Wallingford, Berkshire, March 18 and April 22, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Alsager, official assignee, Birchin-laue ; Smith, Golden-square. Charles Jacobs, fruit salesman, Farringdon• market, March 14, at half-past eleven, and April 18, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, official assignee; Overton and Hughes, Old Jewry. Joseph Wilson, bootmaker, Jermyn-street, St. James's, March 14 and April 15, at half-past twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee; W r i g ht, S m i t h , an d Shepherd, - Golden-square. John Struckett, grocer. Wye, Kent, March 14, at two, and May 3, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, offi cial assignee, Alderrnanbury ; Palmer, France, and Palmer, Bedford-row ; King, Maidstone. James Stephen Herring, builder, Cecilia-place, Spa-road, Bermondsey, March 15, at one, and May 3, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Sambrook court, Basinghall-street ; Rippon, Blackfriars-road. George Salmon, timber merchant, No. 15 Wharf, City road-basin, March 22, at eleven, and May 3, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Follett, officicial assignee, Sambrook court, Nasinghall-street ; May, Queen-square, Bl ooms b ury. o William Cawthorn, jun., wine merchant, Salisbury-wharf, Salisbury-street, Strand, March 17, at half -past two, and April 18, at half-past eleven, at th e C our t of Bankruptcy. Groom, official assignee, Abchnrch-lane, Lombard-street; Lawrence, Old Fish-street, Doctors'-commons. John Hardy and George Hardy, grocers, Wisbech St. Peter, Cambridge, March 14, at two, and April 18, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand, official assignee, Old Jewry-chambers, London ; Jenkins and Abbott, New Inn, London. Thomas Kewell Gorbell, bookseller, Bedford-place, Com mercial-road, Middlesex, March 14, at half-past two, and April 18, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Tnrquand, official assignee, Old Jewry-chambers ; Turner, Mount-place, Whitechapel-road. John Rock Day, licensed victualler, White Hart-street, Drury-lane, March 14, and April 16, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-street-build- ings ; Smith, Barnard's Inn, Holborn. Daniel Mackay, merchant, Liverpool, March 18, and April 8, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court. Bird, official assignee, Liverpool; Sharpe, Field, and Jackson, London; Miller and Peel, Liverpool. William Butterill, grocer, Sheffield, March 20 and April 10, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Freeman, official assignee, Leeds ; Tattershall, Great James-street, Bedford row, London ; Broadbent, Sheffield ; Blackburn, Leeds. William Cornelius IVhittenbury, cheese factor, Leeds March 19 and April 14, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Fearne, official assignee, Leeds ; llushworth, Staple Inn, London ; Sanderson, Leeds. William Pell, linen-draper, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, March 19, at eleven, and April 29, at two, at the Newcastle-upon- Tyne District Court. Baker, official assignee, I' ewcastle upon-Tyne ; Griffith and Crichton, Newcast.e-upon-Tyne; Griffith, Gray's Inn, London. DIVIDENDS DECLARED. J. W. Braddick, farmer, Bristol—second div. of 3d. in the pound, March 10, or any subsequent Monday, at the office of Mr. Acraman, Liverpool. E. Davies, blacksmith, Great Crosby—a div. of 2s. 7d. in the pound, March 10, or any subsequent Monday, at the office of Mr. Turner, Liverpool. - J. Garnett, merchant, Liverpool—third div. of 4d. and 2-sths of a farthing in the pound, March 10, or any subse quent Monday, at the office of Mr. Turner, Liverpool. R . Al so p, grocer, Manchester—final div. of 2s 81,4 d, an d a first and final div. of 14s. 8 1 / 0 in the pound on new proofs, March IS, or any subsequent Tuesday, at the office of Mr. Fraser, Manchester. E. Heron, butcher, Hartlepool—first div. of Is. in the pound, March 8, or any subsequent Saturday, at the office of Mr. Wakley, Newcastle-upon-Tyne. T. Eldridge., coach-Imilder,l3pper North-place, Gray's Inn road—first div. of Bs. in the Ili und, March 8, and three fol lowing Saturdays, at the office of Mr. Groom, Abchurch-lane. DIVIDENDS. At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street. W. Law, draper, Reading, March 28, at half-past one—W. Smith, printer, King-street, St. Giles's, April 3, at half-past eleven—H. and A. Wood, Blackwell-hall factors, Basinghall street, April 2, at one —H. W. Collinson, hat maker, Stam ford-street, April 3, at eleven—T. Creeke, tailor, Cambridge, March 28, at one—D. Fowler and K. Green, merchants, Lime street, March 28, at two. Robert Wallace, mason, Galston, March 11, and April 11, at twelve, at the chambers of D. R. Andrews. Kilmarnock. APDonell, Brothers, clothiers, Inverness, March 12, and April 2, at two, at the Castle of Inverness. Lang and Mercer, merchants, Leith, March 12, and April 9, at two, at the New Ship Tavern, Leith. PRICE OF SUGAR. The Average Price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, for the week ending, March 4, 1845, is 81s. 10-id. per cwt., exclusive of the Duties of C us t oms paid or payable thereon on the im portation thereof into Great Britain: CEN TRAL CRIMINAL COURT. ivillia()l,3,ecyfoariewllilihrE., B ag ar e o a n s P s A , n r K e l id .l ng at 17, OLD COURT. Ber mondsey-street, was indicted for having committed a rape on the person of Jane Matthews, aged 13, on the 30th Decem ber last. Mr. Doane and Mr. Payne were for the prosecution; Mr. Ballantine and Mr. Robinson for the defence. The evidence, which cannot of course be published, seemed to establish the fact that the prisoner had taken the prose cutrix to his owls house, earl there had given her some gin and peppermint, and whi/F she was in a state of stupor had perpetrated the offence for which ho was indicted. Mr. BALLANTINE took a technical objection, which was., however, overruled by the Learned Judge. The Learned Counsel then addressed the jury. Mr. Baron PAlu summed up, and the jury, after a brief consultation in the box, expressed a wish to retire. They re- , mained out nearly an hour, and then returned with a special verdict—" We find the prisoner Guilty of having committed the act while the girl was in a state of insensibility. He having administered the liquor to her for the purpose of ex citing, not of rendering her insensible." Mr. Baron PARKE said he would receive the verdict as one of guilty, and reserve the speciality of the verdict for the con sideration of the judges. Mr. DOANE suggested a question which his Lordship was about to put to the jury, but in the minute that elapsed during the entering of the verdict, and the suggestion of the Learned Counsel, one of the jury, a Mr. Hobkirk, had vanished, and although criers were sent out in every direction, he was nowhere to be found. His Lordship was, therefore, unable to put the question, and the verdict was entered as given in. - The prisoner was afterwards brought up for judgment, and sentenced to transportation for life, Mr. Baron PARKE ob serving, that he would reserve the objections raised in his case for the consideration of the judges, but he could hold out uo hope to bins of any avoidance or commutation of his sentence. During the course of the day, the grand jury came in and presented the last bills, and at the same time they handed up the following presentment : " Grand Jury-room, Old Bailey, March 7, 1845. " The grand jury, now sitting at. this court, beg to present, that it is their opinion th e p o li ce - o ffi cers h ave uniformly given their evidence in a manner highly satisfactory to the jury, but that the police furce, particularly in the neighbour hood of Bethnal-green, appear to have very much neglected their duty, in allowing beer-shops and public-houses, some of them having concerts and balls, to be kept open at unseason able hours, in several instances as late as two in the morn ing; to which the grand jury attribute many of the crimes brought before them, and cannot therefore separate without calling the attention of the proper authorities to this fertile source of crime and depravity. They farther beg to express their extreme regret at seeing so many juvenile offenders committed for trial to this court, Is it is the unanimous opinion of the jury, that in many cases summary convictions would have a more salutary effect upon their future conduct than being associated in prison with more hardened offen ders, by which their education in crime is completed, and the object of punishment, the correction of the offenders, is in most cases defeated, and they are turned loose upon society worse characters than before. " The grand jury cannot too strongly express their opinion that the facility with which pawnbrokers and marine store dealers often purchase suspicious property from persons they do not know (often mere boys and girls), is highly reprehen sible, as affording thieves a most ready opportunity of dis posing of their booty, which operates as a direct encou ragement to bad characters. The grand jury further present, that it would be highly desirable if means could be adopted to trace stolen p roper t y to t h e rece i vers, who are, in the Opinion of the grand jury, in many cases, more criminal than the prisoners, and shouhl also be indicted with the thieves. (Signed) " W. NEWTON, Foreman." Baron PARSE, in reply, said that, as regarded the latter part of the presentation it was a question for the Legislature : and that, with respect to the former part, the magistrates of Surrey and Middlesex should receive due notice of POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. Mr. Charles Green, the individual who WaTsfound lying in a mews bleeding and insensible from a wound an his head, which he had received from two cabmen on Saturday morn- ing, and who was sated from being plundered of his property by the timely arrival of the police, came to this Court to make an application to Mr. Hardwick in relation to the fur ther proceedings against the man John Stock, in custody on the charge. Green said, although he had sustained great injurv,... lie was reluctant to expose hi s c h aracter to that damage ' which he feared must ensue by a correct relation of all the circumstances attending the ease. He had been drinking rather freely that night, and that circumstance, no doubt, bad been noticed by the cabmen, and had been made use of as a means to induce him to treat them with liquor. The fact of his having condescended so far as to treat men so much be neath him in station, was in itself so disgraceful, that he feared, if generally known, it might have a prejudicial effect on his present situation. He was anxious, under these cir cumstances, to have the magistrate's opinion of the most pru dent course for him to take. Kr. HArtawicx said the men in custody had been charged with a most serious offence. It was nothing less than that the prisoner, in company with another man, had meditated robbery, by using violence which might have had a fatal termination. Mr. Green said he had not the slightest doubt that the cabman and his companion fbllowed him up the yard with the view of robbing him. Mr. HARDWICK. said the security of the public streets, at all hours, was the first consideration, and it ought to be the duty of every well• disposed person to contrilAte towards that security, and to punish all violation of that security by all means in his power. Undoubtedly the applicant might con sider that his private feelings were liable to be wounded at coming forward to give evidence against the offenders, but then the applicant must recollect he had a paramount public duty to perform. The best advice he could give to the ap plicant was to assist the attainment of public justice by a 11111 and unreserved disclosure of all the circumstances connected with the affair. Mr. Green said no one was more desirous than himself to see justice take its course, and he should therefore adopt the course which had been so kindly pointed out to him. THE PRESERVATION OF PICTURES. Mr . Da y, whose energetic efforts for the introduction of a cheap and efficient system of ventilation into the dwellings of the middle and poorer classes, and whose many inventions for carrying out so philanthropic a purpose has been often alluded to, states in his lectures that the want of a free supply o f f res h air, is apartments where valuable paintings and delicate works of art aro kept, is the cause of their injury and conse quent deterioration in value. Mr. Day instances the rapid appearance of dry-rot in furniture, And in the floors and wainscotting of those rooms where the windows and doors are not often opened; the same effects following in other cases, in comparison to the want of proper and judicious ventilation. Music.—Mr. Henry Russell, it would appear, is crowd b e e d en a i u n di t e h n : e. l s ne th po ea l r is. him Hz i as the su p e r c o m vi f n u c l es in as b .re gi e n v g er has vocal abilities are certainly of that ord er w i t h which all are g al e l n ie( er i al t l o y aprleicashedand and` ve a je c e l , ea a r re anA:lis s t e in re ct rel e ) ? un me ci t a w ti i o t n h , that no surpri se nee d b e expressed in the enthusiasm with which Mr. Russell is everywhere greeted. His melodies, descriptive of the negro character, are given with great truth and nature, and the singer must have studied very closely the habits and eccentricities of this amusing class of the genus honor. Mr. Russell is a first-rate proficient upon the pianoforte, and his great command over this instrument, upon which he accompanies himself, adds considerably to the de light of all who listen to him. He is expected back shortly from the provinces, and will then resume his concerts at the Hanover-square Rooms. TROTTlNG.—Yesterday, a match to trot two miles in seven minutes was decided on two miles of read between Paddington and Islington. Mr. Harris was the owner of horse, and the match was to trot in harness for 101. ° The horse broke, and was pulled in twice during the distance and lost the match by 38 seconds. SALE OF GUANO AT PORT-GLASGOW.—On Tues day there was a public sale of this valuable niure at Port. Glasgow.he. T It consisted attention consisd of far of the firs cargo and o ftheethMere was large Margaret from ieaho but only a few lots were disposed of at 71. 12s. ficl. to 8/.. par ton. The proprietor, we understand, refused 71. 10a. f or th e remainder of e cargo.—.Glavoto Courier. In the Country. 0. P. Wathen, clothier, Woodchester, Qloucestershire, April 1, at twelve, at the Bristol District Court—J, Cox, silk throwster, Nottingham, April 3, at eleven, at the Riming ham District Court. CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be showrl to the contrary, on the day herein mentioned. G. Jackson, jun., _upholsterer, llertford, March 29—. T. Curwen, cheesemonger, Bridge-place, Vauxhat April 4 W. Tydeman, timber merchant, Chelmsford, March 28—S. Libbis, innkeeper, Stratton St. Mary, Norfolk, April I—H. R. Stutchbury, bookseller, Theobahrs-road, Bedford-row, April 2—J. Harwar, piano -forte manufacturer, Charlotte-street, Bloomsbury, April l—C. M. M o tt r a m , warehouseman, Friday street, Cheapside, April 5—G. E. Lanham, builder, South ampton' April 2—J. F. B a r w i c k, wheelwrillt, Old-street, St. Luke's, April 4—J. Wallington, painter, Bristol, April 2 W. Fairelough, licenced victualler, Liverpool, April 2—J. Harley, plumber,Wolverhampton, March 31-J. G. Schott and J. C. Lavater, merchants, Manchester, March 31—W. Rees and G. Edwards, gardeners, Wells, Somersetshire, March 25—C. Parry, faniiture broker, Cleaver-street, Kennington road, March . 2B—J. Coles, jeweller, New Bond-street, March 28—J. Hook, brick merchant, Nine-elms, Wandsworth-road, March 28—R. K. Mann, wine merchant, Hull, March 28-- F. Deflinne, check manufacturer, Manchester, March 28, PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. R. and W. Donkin, drapers, Beverley—P. C. and IL SC, C. Called, wine merchants, cheltenham—R. Baldwin and M. Arrowsmith, spade makers, Balderstone, Lancashire—H. Berne and H. Farrant, linen drapers, Exeter--T. H. Kay and J. Walker, dyers, Leed s —J . Cannel; and D. Graham, grocers, Great Newport-street—J. Hotchkiss and J. Hotchkiss, jun., wine merchants, Blackfriars-read—W. J. and S. Hallam, chemists, Thaxted—J. C. Ilolt, J. Critchley, and J. Greaves, coal miners, Batley, Yorkshire (so far as regards J. C. Hots) —J. Drulding and J. W. Danby, attorneys, Lincoln-3C- Cooper and W. Ravenscroft, silk mercers, Liverpool—W.. Taylor and 11. Blillichamp, iron founders, Birmingham_,J, S. Kewley, T. L. Morecroft, and R. J Hardman, brokers, Liver pool—S. Badger, J. Badger, and T. Badger, millers, Birming ham—A. Towler, H. Campin, and C. W. Sickle, merchants, Norwich (so far as regards C. W. Sickle)—C. Darnbrough and T. Wright, druggists, Manchester—D. Oliver, jun., and W. Noble, grocers, Newcastle-upon-Tyne—J. J. I. Syer and E. A. Sanders, New Bridge-street, Blackfriars.—F. E. Richards and R. C. Meggitt, starch manufacturers, Hessle, Yorkshire —S. and T. Walker, millers, Bingham, Nottinghamshire—l. Brampton, sen., J. Brampton, and I. Brampton, jun., glove manufacturers, Leicester—D. Ledsam, J. F. Ledsam, C. H. Capper, M. Dixon, J. Mar r i an , J. R eyno ld s, A . Warner, W. Steel, R. W. Winfield, and W. Potts, metal rollers, Bir mingham (as far as regards A. Warner and W. Steel) —l'. Williamson and E. Scott, farmers, Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire —J. Yoxall, W. Holding, and J. Houle, contractors, Lancaster and Carlisle Railway— J. Simpson, G. Tomlinson, J. Brooke, J. Whittaker, J. Day, D. Fox, P. Fox, J. Butterworth, M. Spelding, and W. Dean, cloth finishers, Batley, Yorkshire (as far as regards M. Spel ding and W. Dean )—J. S. Tooker, A. J. Cipriaut, G. Mead, A. Mitchell, and R. Dennistoun, merchants, New York and Liverpool (as far as regards Tooker, Mead, and Co., New York, and Tooker, Mitchell, and Co., Liverpool). SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. John Hamilton, flesher, Leith, March 12, and April 9, at one, at the chambers of J. Henderson, Edinburgh. David Irving, farmer, Greenmerse, Kircudbright, March 13, and April 3, at twelve, at the inn of J. Pagan, Maxwell town. SEE M