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SECONIJ EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock, THE LONDON GAZE FTE THIS EVENING. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, JULY 16, 1836. Royal Regiment of Artillery—Capt. and Brevet Major D. Grant to be Lieutenant-Colonel,-vice Gilmour, placed on the Re tired List ; Second Capt. B. H. Vaughan to be Captain, vice Grant ; First Lieut. W. L. Kaye to be Second Captain, vice Vaughan ; Second Lieut. G. E. T urner to b e Fi rst Li eu t enan t, vice - Kaye, July 12. Commission by his Majesty's Lieutenant of the County of Ayr. Royal Ayrshire Militia.—The Earl of Eglinton to be Colonel, vice Kelso, deceased, June 4. WHITEHALL, JUNE 27, 1836. The Lord Chancellor has appointed RichardPalwff the younger, of Preston, in the county. of Lancaster, Gent., tr, be a Mi'ster Ex traordinary in the High Court of Chancery. WHITEHALL, Jury 15. The Lord Chancellor has appointer; John Panting, of Shrews• bury, in the county of Salop, Gent..., to be a Master Extraordinar in the High Court of Chancery. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. JOHN WILSON WILLIAMS, timber merchant, Liverpool. HENRY JENKINS and EDWARD OSLAND, linendrapers, Abergavenny. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. WILLIAM Vslifili,TON, grocer, Borrowash, Ockbrook Derbyshire. BANKRUPTS, JOHN POOL NORTON, engine-boiler-maker, West Brom wich, S;taffmidshire. JAMES ANDREW, cotton-spinner, Rising-bridge, Lancashire. WILLIAM SHORTHOSE, jeweller, Leamington-Priors ; Warwick. WILLIAM WALFORD, mister, Birmingham. FRANCIS NEWTON, silkmercer, Norwich. JAMES KENNEDY, goldsmith, Spencer-street, Northaup. ten-square. WILLIAM HINDLEY, cheesemonver, Gray's Inn-lane. JOHN SMITH, victualler, Ch es t er fi e ld , Derbyshire. JOHN DUCKWORTH, calico-printer, Broughton,.Lancashire COURSE OF EXCHA Amsterdam C.F. 12 5g Ditto, at sight l2 3% Rotterdam 2U. 12 5% Antwerp... Hamburg. M.B. 13 13 Altena... Paris, 3 days' sight 25 55 Ditto .. .... .............. 2 Us 25 85 Marseilles. Frankfort OA Maine, ELM 1533 f Petersbuigh, ruble .3 Us. 10 0 Berlin Vienna, effective f1......2 M lO 10 Trieste......ditto lO 11 Madrid 373 i Cadiz 375, p: B i lboa NGE.--(THIS DAY Leghorn lB Genoa 25 85 Milan 31 Venice Naples 4014 Palermo per oz. 122 Li.bon 5 6 14 Oporto 56 Rio Janeiro 9 6% Bahia Buenos Ayres - - 1 1 Dublin, 21 days' sight l% Cork 1 v. PRICE OF BULLION, PER OZ. Portugal Gold, coin £0 0. 0 Foreign Gold, in bars 3117 1014 New Doubloons New Dollars Silver, bars, standard 0 5 (11i, ------- Barcelona 1614 48 Saville Gibraltar IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual time. SOUTH METROPOLITAN CEMETERY. On the motion of Captain ALSAGAR this Bill was rad a third time and passed. HUNGERFORD AND LAMBETH SUSPEN SION BRIDGE. On the motion of Mr. HAWES this Bill was read a third time and passed. MEDWAY NAVIGATION. Mr. HODGES moved the further consideration of the Report of the Committee on this Bill. Sir E. KNATCHBULL, after presenting a petition against the Bill, said he was sorry to be obliged to trouble the House With a few observations in opposition to this Bill. The circumstances attending this Bill were very unusual in Parliamentary proceedings, .and such as had never before come within his knowledge. The Bill was not brought in by the Proprietors of the Medway Navigation, but by adverse and hostile parties, and who they were it was impossible for him to say, at least he did not know them. There were clauses in this Bill, which actually imposed on the Company the expense of the Par liamentary proceedings in obtaining this present Bill, with which they had nothing to do, and in which they did not wish to be concerned. When the Bill was in Committee every facility was given by the Proprietors of the Navigation for the thorough in vestigation of this matter. All their books and documents here laid before the Committee in the most open manner. There were no grounds, whatever that could be stated upon which the ilouse could justify itself in pas Sing this measure.—( Hear.) With respect to the 4tatement that this Com p a n r4C'te thraiers — in amber, Tr-arnottatz ed to -no more ~,than this—they required timber to re pair their wharf's and Beira,, ....Li the remainder. Since his experience in Parliament he had never seen so gross an invasion of the rights of property as was contem plated by the present Bill. The Hon. Baronet concluded by moving that the Report be further considered that day three months. Sir J. GRAHAM seconded the amendment. Mr: HODGES thought the course pursued by the Right Hon. Baronet was rather unusual. He had for many years heard great complaints of the manner in which the Com pany acted. Great stress bad been laid on the interference of private property by the Bill, he contended that the Bill, in stead of depreciating would enhance th e v a l ue o f pr i vate pro perty. TheCompanyhad been trading in coal and timber,which they had no right to do, because they diverted their tolls, by doing that, into a source which they were not allowed by the Act of Parliament. If the Company were re strieled from trading at all, was it to be supposed that the compet 7 tion of private parties would not be able to supply parties with this article at as cheap a rate as the Company could do ? It was quite clear to any body reading the evidence that the accounts of the Company were in great confusion, and that the great body of the share holders had not had justice done them. If the Company allowed the public to be supplied by competition, they would be, supplied as cheaply as, at present, and the Company would derive an increase of tolls from the increase of the trade. He admitted that the term mono poly might be applied to this Company more strictly some years ago, than at present. He hoped the House would pass this Bill, which would give full effect to all the im- • provements suggested by this Company, to the great bene fit of the public, notwithstandin g the opposition of private parties. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when the numbers were, For the motion For the amendment Majority —l4 The Bill is consequently lost. Sir R. DONKIN presented a petition from Berwick upon-Tweed, complaining of the inconvenience to which they were subjected, from the distance at which the sessions and assizes were held, and praying that they might be in corporated under the provisions of the Municipal Reform Bill with the Northern Division of Durham. THE BALLOT. Mr. GROTE presented a petition from 200 inhabitants of Leamington in Warwickshire, in favour of the Ballot ; also a petition from a congregation of Dissenters in the metropolis, praying for the abolition of Church-rates. Mr. CUTL AR FERGUSON presented a petition from Kirkcudbright, praying for an alteration in the Scotch Municipal Reform Bill. Mr. WALLACE presented a petition from Policia shawes, in Renfrewshire, praying that the 'rights of bur- I gesses should be protected,, and for the introduction of vote by ballot. '"""Mr. RUTHVEN presented a petition from the parish of St. James's, in the city of Dublin, complaining of the con duct of House of Lords, in refusing the same measure of Corporate Reform to Ireland now enjoyed by England, and praying this House to take immediate steps for a reform of the House of Lords, signed by 1,270 householders of that parish. In the sentiments of the petition he most cor dially and entirely agreed. Colonel THOMPSON had been requested to support the prayer of the petition, which he did with pleasure, in order to shew that at least one English Member deeply sympathized with Ireland. Mr. WILKS presented a petition from two individuals named Humphries, who were Clerks of Dispensations and Faculties in the Court of Chancery, praying for com pensation, on the ground that their emoluments would be much curtailed by one of the Bills now before Parliament for the Commutation of Tithes. Mr. HUTT presented a petition from the merchants and shipowners of Hull in favour of the Bill for the better regu lation of the Trinity House in Hull ; also one to the same effect from the Guardians of Hull ; and one from Hull in favour of the Charities' Trustees Bill. Lord F. EGERTON presented a petition from several dignitaries of the Church, complaining of that part of the Church Discipline Bill which empowered the Bishop to summon a jury of nine clergymen for the trial of clerical offences ; and one from tl.e same parties, complaining of the Fourth Report of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, especially of that part of it which at once transferred the patronage, at present in the hands of the Deans and Chapters, from them to the Bishops. The peti tioners also stated, that, upon the recommendation of the Commissioners, no person had been presented who was related to the Bishops or the Archbishops ; they stated, further, that they were entitled to the whole be nefit of those recommendations, by which they were affected ; supposing the House should still look favourably upon the recommendation of the Commissioners with respect to the transfer of patronage, still they contended they were entitled to it in the nature of vested rights. The petition ers also stated that they viewed with alarm the 52d clause of the fourth Report of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, which recommended that power be given to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners of dividing the livings during the life of the present incumbent, and without the consent of the patron of the living, and they prayed that the evils of which they complained might be corrected. He could assure the House that the signatures to this petition, though not numerous, were highly distinguished and respectable. PATENTS. Colonel THOMPSON presented a petition from John Henry Marsh, stating, that from a period so long back as 1793, he had made great improvements in the construction of ships and vessels ; but that he had been prevented from promulgating them to the extent he was inclined to do, through poverty, and the want of ability to meet the ex penses of a patent. He prayed that the patent rate might be so reduced, so as to put it in the power of any inventor to obtain a patent at a small expense. CHURCH RATES. Mr. WILLIAMS presented a petition from Coventry, praying for the abolition of church rates and vicar's rates. The petition was signed by some of the most respectable and influential persons in the city of Coventry. As a mem ber of the Church of England, he concurred in the prayer of the petition; and expressed a hope that Government would introduce some measure to remedy this grievance. STANNERIES COURT BILL. Mr. FRESHFIELD presented a petition from Penryn against the Stanneries Court Bill. LAW OF LIBEL. Major BEAUCLERK presented a petition from an in dividual named John Milligan, of Richmond, stat ing that the petitioner had been found guilty of libel at the Kingston assizes, and a penalty of 501. in flicted upon him which would incarcerate him for life, and praying for an alteration in the law of libel. CHARITY TRUSTS. Sir R. PEEL presented a petition from the Freemen of Coventry, with 3,198 signatures appended to it, against certain provisions in thn Bill for the appointment of Cha ritable Trustees. SALE OF BEER. Mr. POULTER presented a petition from the retailers of beer at Reading praying for an alteration of the present law affecting the sale of beer. AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE. Mr. ROBINSON said, that having been induced to post Pone a motion relating to foreign corn, from being in formed that the Agricultural Committee had the subject under their consideration, he now wished to know whether that Committee, after their protracted sitting, were about to make any report ? No answer having been returned, The HON. MEMiER, said, that if it was not convenient for Hon. Gentlemen to answer the question, he would give notice that he would put the question to-morrow. Mr. SANFORD, as one of the Agricultural Committee, was sorry to inform the Hon. Member for Worcester that it was not the intention of that Committee to make any other Report than to lay the evidence befor e th e House. The Government had most certainly nothing to do with the Report. An independent M em b er h a d been put in the chair, and he had on proposing the report stated most distinctly that the report had been drawn up by himself, and that it was entirely his own. NOTARIES' PUBLIC. Dr. NICHOLL begged to inquire whether the Hon. Member opposite intended to proceed with the Notaries' Public Bill at this late period of the Session ? Mr. C. BULLER said he was afraid the Bill was not so perfect as it might be made. He was afraid there would not now be time to perfect it properly, and he was therefore reluctantly obliged to postpone it till next Session. On the motion of the Hon. Member, the Bill was ordered to be committed that day three months. POOR LAW BILL. Mr. WALTER was anxious to know whether the Go vernment intended to go on with the Poor Law Amend ment Bill this session. He had been entrusted with a very important petition on the subject, and he hoped to be afforded an opportunity of presenting it before the second reading of the Bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said an opportunity would most certainly be afforded the Hon. Member of presenting his petition before the second read ing of the Bill, which the Government intended to go on with. Mr. WARBURTON said he was anxious to have a time fixed for resuming the adjourned debate on the impor tant petition he had presented, relative to the Troutbeck case, he would be contented with any evening or morning which would meet with the convenience of the House. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not wish to put anything in the way of the Hon. Member, but the public business must be proceeded. with. - Mr: WAKLEY—hoped, with refpr6i,, , o - to_thc q uu- tion of the Honourable Member for Berkshire, that some early day would be appointed for the 2nd reading of the Bill, as it was an exceedingly important measure ; or.e almost as important as the Bill of 1833. He trusted how ever, that the Bill would not be read a second time that day, as it was so short a period since it had been in troduced. Hqhad intended to put a question to the Secretary at War w►th reference to allowing soldiers to wear side arms. In doing so, he should have stated a circumstances which he had witnessed, took place between two soldiers on his return from the House last night; but as the Right Hon. Gentleman was not in his place, he should postpone his question. • TROUTBECK CASE. Mr. WARBURTON gave notice that on Friday he should move that the House should sit on Monday at twelve. o'clock, in order to proceed with the debate on this case. CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL. Mr. W. SMITH moved the further consideration of she Report on the Charitable Trusts Bill. The framer of the Bill had endeavoured to meet every objection :hat had been urged upon the subject ; Lord Lyndhurst a the House of Lords had objected to many of the clauses of the Bill, because they were similar in their natur e to one then on the table of the House, introduced by Lord Brougham ; that Bill, however,bad not been proceeded with, and the present embodied almost all its important provisions. The great princi, es of this Bill was certainly the elective principle—but it was not the same in this Bill as that which had been adopted by this House in the regulation of political bodies. The distinction was manifest, but the principle was not a new one, as it had been adopted in the choice of officers in corporate towns, and the consequence was that those elections had proceeded much more quietly than any of the other election. The principle was that each burgess should have the right of voting but for one half the number of trus tees to be elected. It was obvious that this was to provide against cases where parties were evenly divided. He was very unwilling to introduce the word " party" at all, or to bring into discussion the agitation of party questions, but he must necessarily mention it, as the principle of the Bill was against party decisions. Where parties were somewhat evenly divided, the result would be that the minority would by this Bill have a representation,and it was only in cases where the majority was so great that the minority had no chance of competing with them that the contrary practice could pre vail, He was not aware that there were any objections to this principle, but, however, as the main principle of the Bill he was prepared to adhere to it. The Bill also provided, that those only who were locally re sident and interested should have the right of voting for the trustees. He was not aware that there was any objection to the right of voting being confined to this class of persons, but there were objections to that right being extended to those persolis who would specially benefit by thiteeharters, and who were more or less paupers—he meant the freemen. The Commissioners had reported very strongly against the conduct of Corporations, and it would be inexpedient, therefore, to continue the charitable trusts in the old Corporations. A very important principle in this Bill was that it would give the property to those Corporators who were charitable trust ees , w ith c h arges on i t for charitable purposes. He considered the property ought to rest in the Council, and that the charge should be paid by the Council to the charitable trustees. It was clear it would be their business to increase the surplus as much as possible, in order that they might take advantage of what was above and beyond that which it would be necessary to appropriate to charitable purposes.—(Hear, hear, hear.) There was one point connected with the principl e of the Bill on which he wished to touch, which was that of the Mayor being the Chairman of the charitable trusts. He wished to state the reason why he had intro duced the Mayor as Chairman, which was, that it would have been absurd to make the number who were to elect even, and therefore it had been deemed expedient to appoint some person as Chairman who would be in a situation to make an odd number. It was generally thrown upon the conductor of a Bill or the party from whom it emanated, that they wished to serve their own interests—he repudiated his having any interest in the matter, for, as was well-known to Hon. Gentlemen opposite, the Mayor of the Borough he had the honour to represent, held very different political opinions from himself. He had struck out the second vote which the Bill formerly gove the Chairman, so that now he would merely preside and vote only in the event of the trustees being equally divided. He would be most happy to adopt suggestion by which the Chairmanship might be better any filled ; f or i nstance, h e m i g h t agree that the trustees should have a month in which to elect their own Chairman, and then if they did not agree, that the M a yor should preside, or anything of that kind. He had introduced an amendment—an amendment which would allow the old trustees to carry on suits now in progress, and nearly concluded. These were all the amendments made in the Bill, and he hoped it would now be satisfactory. Sir ROBERT PEEL was rather surprised at the re monstrance the Hon. Member had made against taking the discussion on the principle of the Bill at an early hour. If he had at an early period of the evening asked f or l eave to b r i ng i n the Bill, or had given notice of its second reading, giving ample time to consider it, th en h e a d m i tte d t h at th Hon. Member would be justified in making use of the expres sions he had done.—(Hear, hear.) But when he found that leave was given to bring in the Bill after midnight, and read a second time nearer one in the morning than twelve o'clock ; that, on both, occasions, it had escaped the vigilance of the Honourable Member for Salford, he must not be surprised that it should be asked that some earlier hour than twelve o'clock should be given to discuss its principle.—(Hear, hear.) Th e grea t ques ti on f or th e House was, whether or not they would now make or permit to continue some temporary arrangement for the administration of charitable trusts in Corporations, or whether they would establish finally and irrevocably the principle not only of popular election, but indissoluble connection between the political body, the Corporation, and the trustees of charities.—(Hear, hear.) This Bill certainly in some respects was permanent ; and he quite agreed with the Hon. Gentleman, that it would be preposterous to revive the old Corporations, for the purpose of vesting those trusts in them.—(Hear, hear.) He wished to disconnect the administration of charitable trust from the political functions of the Corporations. The advantage of leaving matters as they stood would be this, that the arrangements would be necessarily provisional, such as the appointments by existing trustees of secretaries. and clerks ; it would be open to Parliament. in the next session to consider the whole of the case connected with chatritable trusts, and then to make a permanent arrange ment. He entreated the House to consider maturely the considerations which presented themselves in favour of this mode of proceeding. It were better to have some provisional arrangement, rather than decide that the administration of charitable trusts should be connected with popular and ne cessarily political bodies. He need hardly tell the House' that patronage in the hands of local particular bo-, dies, woukd ,be almost. sure to be applied fq .strengthening tifieir• political interests. All he wanted was to prevent the Charities being injnred by the misap plication of Charity Funds to political purposes.—( Hear.) The destruction of self-election, and the substitution of popular control, would not give a check to these abuses. A clause in the Bill gave the Council complete control over the charitable trusts, as the books were ordered to be open at all times in proper hours for the inspection of every member of the Council. (~LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack at five o'clock. GREENWICH PIER. Lord KENYON moved the second reading of the Greenwich Pier Bill.—Agreed to. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from the Clergy and Magistrates of Southampton, complaining of the number of beer-shops. The Earl of CALEDON presented a petition against the Dublin and Drogheda Railway Bill. Messengers from the Commons brought up the South Metropolitan Cemetry Bill, which was read a first time. . Lord L Y ND H U RS T presented a petition from the Chief Clerk of the Irish Court of Chancery, praying for com pensation under the Chancery Reform Bill. The petition having been read at length by the Clerk, Lord PLUNKETT entered into a long statement, for the purpose of showing that the petitioners had obtained an ample -compensation, and that he wanted to obtain a situation as Assistant-Registrar, to which he was not entitled. He conceived that he was bound to abide by the provisions of the Act upon this subject, which he (Lord Plunket) bad had the honour, to introduce. There would be a saving of nearly 3,0001. per annum to the public by the new arrangements in that department. DUNDEE WATER-WORKS. Lord BANDON, as Chairman of the Committee on the Dundee Water-works Bill, reported to the House that the preamble of the Bill bad not been proved. The Constabulary Force (Ireland) Amendments Bill, and the Turnpike Acts (Ireland) Bill, went through a ' Committee. The Bills nn their Lordships' table were advanced a stage. Lord WYNFO RD presented a petition, complaining of the operation of the Poor Law Amendment Bill. CONFERENCE WITH THE COMMONS. On the motion of Lord ROSSLYN, the Report of tie Committee appointed to draw up reasons for disagree ing with some of the smendments made by the Com mons to the Municipal Corporations Amendment Bill was read, and a message was sent requesting a conference with the Commons thereon. On the motion of the Duke of RICHMOND, the Pa coe/iial A.,ac.sitient It.::gulutiun fill went into Committec: - - On the first clause being read, Lords Ellenborough, Kenyon, and some other Noble Lords, objected to it. The DUke of RICHMOND defended the clause. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Com mittee divided, when the numbers were— For the clause ' 31 Against it. Majority in favour of the clause —3 (LEFT SITTING.) SuiclDE.--On Saturday an inquest was held at the Prince's Head, Princess-street, Westminster, on the body of Thomas Hall, aged 53, a Chelsea pensioner, who committed suicide. The deceased had been nearly thirty years in the army, and served during the whole of the Peninsular campaign under the Duke of Wellington. After the war the deceased, who had received a number of wounds, particularly at Water loo, was disbanded with a pension of is. 3d. per diem, as out pensioner of Chelsea Hospital. The deceased, at times, was greatly affected in his head, when at all excited by drink. This was attributable to a sabre wound received during his services. On Wednesday he was paid his pension, upon which occasion he made too free with some of his old comrades in arms, and was taken home in a state of insensibility to his lodging in Orchard-street, Westminster, and put to bed. On the following morning (Thursday), the old veteran was dis covered hanging to a hook in the ceiling, by a piece of cord.__ Verdict, " Temporary Mental Derangement." A NEW CLAIMANT TO THE FRENCH THRONE, --A person landed here yesterday (Dover, July 13,) from Calais, who, if report speak truth, ought to be now sitting on the throne of France, by the title of Louis XVII. This per son, it is said, was born in 1785, and after the decapitation and murdei of his father, mother, and other royal relatives, being considered idiotic, was not particularly under the sur veillance of the revolutionists, but was secretly conveyed from Paris during the horrors of the Revolution, and has been tra velling since, in almost every part of the world, under the protection of a French Marquis. Why he has lately returned to Paris may be matter of conjecture; but it• seems his bed there did not exactly consist of roses ; for his presence becom ing known to the French authorities, he was, under the edict of 1830, placed in the hands of the yeas d'armes, who con veyed him to Calais, and put him on board the packet, which landed him here; and from whence he has departed for London this morning. He gave in his name at the Alien Of fice as " Charles Louis, 51 years of age."—Kentish Observer. GOLD FINDING.--A few days ago, a servant on Mr. M.Fie's farm of Borland, parish of Colvend, turned up, whilst plotighing, a curious and valuable article of purest gold. No antiquarian conjectures, luckily, are needed, touching the purpose of which it was designed, since its form and massive weight at once indicate it to have been one of the handles of a costly urn or vase. The spot where it was found consists of a mossy piece of land, in the neighbourhood of the old ruin of Auchenskeoch. How and when it came to be deposited there,' and who ita opulent possessor might have been, az-a questions not so easy-to be determined. Probably it may have " de , cored," as Caleb Balderston would have said, the ancestral hall of some feudal lord, which opinion seems to be counte nanced by the circumstance of a quantity of earth and rubbish having been laid on the said mossy field, taken from about the ruins of the old castle of Auchenskeoch. We rather, how ever, incline to think, it may have belonged to some wealthy family of more modern date. Tradition affirms that during the period of' persecution and alarm in the reign of the second Charles, many precious articles of a portable nature were buried in the earth for security, in the particular localities of Southwick and Colvend ; and it is not, therefore, unlikely that this recently discovered relic may have been so consigned. We need only farther mention that its polish and preservation are perfect, and that its weight is six ounces and a quarter, which, at the ordinary price of gold, makes it worth upwards of 24/. sterling. _.Ayr Observer. At an early hour on Sunday, an accident which ter minated the existence of two respectable young men, took place off Erith. It appears that three young men, namely, Mr. Green, the son of the proprietor of the Portugal Hotel, in Carey-street, Mr. Hunter, a clerk to a solicitor, and Mr. Hook, the son of a gentleman at Walworth, started from London in a wherry, with the intention of rowing to Graves end and baek. On arriving off Erith, and nearly opposite to the residence of Mr. Alderman Harmer, a sudden squall overturned the boat, and all three were immersed in the water. Mr. Hook, being an expert swimmer, managed to keep him self buoyant until he was picked up by a sailing vessel ; but both his companions were unfortunately drowned, and no trace of their bodies could be found when he left. It is much feared, from the boisterous state of the weather, that other accidents have occurred. DOVER, JULY 13.—Just as his Majesty's packet Ferret was about to leave Calais, the gendarmes brought a gentleman down to the quay and put him on board, with di rections to convey him to England, he having made an infrac tion of the edict of 1830. Report states him to be the son of the unfortunate Louis X VI., consequently, the Dauphin of France, who was said to have perished from poison amidst the horrors of 1793. The person is about 50 years of age, and bears a striking resemblance to the Royal Family of France. He is travelling under the name of Charles Louis, and has visited the four quarters of the globe. He rested at the Ship Hotel last night, and this morning proceeded by the way of Herne Bay to London. RYE, JULY 9.—A few days since, a pigeon was shot at Appledore, about six miles from this town, marked un der the wing " Lokeren a, 'Andres." IMPER/ ALL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, JULY 18. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his scat on the Woolsack at five o'clock. Lord MORPETH, and other Members of the House of Com mons, brought up the Ecclesiastical Revenue (Ireland) Bill, and several other Bills, which were severally read a first, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. The Bills on the table were forwarded a stage. STEAM CARRIAGES BILL. The Marquis of SALISBURY seeing the Noble Earl who had the conducting of the Steam Carriages Bill through the House, wished to request of him to postpone the Bill, in order that a Select Committee might be appointed upon the subject. He believed if such a Committee were appointed it could be clearly shown that steam carriages could not run on the public roads without endangering the lives of his Majesty's subjects. Lord RADNOR was willing, if it was the wish of the House, to postpone the further consideration of the Bill; but he must confess he did not see any ground for doing so. After some observations from the Duke of Cumberland, Lord Lyndhurst, Lord Wynford, and the Marquis of Salis bury, the further consideration of the Bill was postponed, in order that the subject might be brought before a Select Committee. On the motion of Viscount MELBOURNE, the Order of the Day for going into Committee on the Marriages Registra tion Bill was discharged, and fixed for Thursday next. The Antigua Indemnity Bill went through a Committee. IRISH TITHE BILL. Lord MELBOURNE gave notice that hp should more the second reading of the Irish Tithe Bill on Friday next. The Earl of CHICHESTER presented petitions for the better observance of the • Lord's Day. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY presented petitions against the Scotch Universities Bill. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented a petition from Launceston, in favour of the Tremoutha Railway and Harbour Bill. On the motion of the Noble Marquis the Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. The NOBLE MARQUIS presented a petitionfrern Newcastle 'u on-Tyne against the See of,Durham At the sugges lin of Lord Mc4bounte-the Srobla Matvii.postiiene4 his mo tion for a Select Committee on the See of Durham Bill, which stood for to-morrow, till Thursday. IRISH CHURCH BILL. Lord MELBOURNE moved that the Irish Church Bill should be read a second time on Monday next. The Duke of WELLINGTON suggested that it would be better to fix the second reading for Friday next. Viscount MELBOURNE acquiesced in the suggestion, and the second reading was fixed for Friday next. IRISH CHANCERY BILL. Lord LY ND HUR ST presented a petition from Mr. Daley, who held a situation in the Rolls' Court in Ireland, praying for compensation for injury that he will suffer from the Bill for the reform of the Irish Court of Chancery. After a few observations from Lords PLUSKET and LYND HURST, the petition was laid on the table. Lord ELLE 480 ROUG II presented a petition from the Town Clerks of Gloucester, praying for compensation, if the Registration of Births and Marriages Bill should be passed into a law. Also a petition from eleven gentlemen in holy orders against the same Bill. On the motion of Viscount DUNCANNON the Turnpike Act Bill was read a second time. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that in consequence of the absence of a Noble Duke be was entrusted with the presentation of a petition from the Gentry, Clergy, and Free holders of the county and town of Nottingham. The peti tioners stated that they placed confidence in their Lordships, and they entreated their Lordships to persevere in the course which they had hitherto pursued. He (the Duke of Welling ton) was confident that their Lordships could not require any inducement of this description to persevere in that which they considered their duty; but their Lordships could not but feel satisfied to receive this sentiment of confidence from so re- spectable a portion of the community as had signed the pe tion in such large numbers. The Noble Duke also presented a petition from the town of Perth, against the Scotch Univer sities Bill; another from the parish clerks of the chapels of ease in Liverpool, against the Registration of Births and Mar riages Bill, and also a petition from the town-clerk of the pa rish church of Liverpool against the same Bill. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from Ewell, against Mr. Cundy's line to Brighton and in favour of Mr. Stephenson's. PRISONER'S COUNSEL BILL. The Duke of RICHMOND moved the insertion of a clause in the Bill allowing all prisoners copies of the examination of the witnesses, upon whose evidence they were detained, at the rate of three halfpence per folio. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that in consequence of what had fallen from a Noble Lord on a late occasion he had written to Sir F. Roe, the head magistrate at Bow-street, who stated that it was not the practice in the metropolis to take any depositions in the absence of the prisoner•. The clause was then agreed to. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (AMENDMENT) ACT. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved that the House agree to the Commons' amendments to this Bill. Upon the amendment relating to the manner in which the casting vote in Corporations should be given a discussion arose, in which the Duke of Wellington, Lord Ellenborough, the Marquis of Lansdowne, the Lord Chancellor, Lords Lynd hurst, \Vharncliffe, and the Earl of Devon took part. Upon the question that this amendment of the Commons be agreed to, the House divided— Contents Non-contents Mqjority 33 63 -30 The Lord CH A&CE LLOR, proposed to their Lordships to postpone the consideration of the next clause, regarding charitable trustees, for a few days ; because any discussion or decision upon that must be entirely useless, in case they should consent to adopt the provisions of a general measure upon the subject, which he believed would be brought from the other House to-morrow. lie asked them to defer the consideration of this clause until they had decided upon that other Bill. Lord LYNDHURST could see no necessity for the sug gestion of the Noble Lord, because clause itself contained a proviso to this effect :—" Unless Parliament shall other wise provide." He (Lord Lyndhurst) should suggest to the House to adhere to their original proposal; and to pass the clause, as they had previously passed it ; then if any other Bill should subsequently be agreed to; that would, of course, by reason of the proviso which lie had read, supersede the present clause. After a few words from the Duke of WE LLINGTON and Lord RADNOR, the motion for postponement was negatived without a division, and the original clause inserted by their Lordships was insisted upon. The Lord CHANCELLOR thought their Lordships would have little difficulty in assenting to the next amendment (clause 42), which (as we understood) gave the Recorder power to appoint a Deputy Recorder. The clause was agreed to. The other amendments, which were chiefly verbal, were then severally agreed to. TI-IE POOR RATES BILL. The Duke of RICHMOND moved that the House resolve itself into a Committee upon this Bill. The Duke of WELLINGTON wished to propose the postponement of the Bill till to-morrow. With regard to the payment of rates by clergymen, it was important, before they adopted the measure, that they should ascertain clearly how the law at present stood in that respect, because he understood that they were not now liable to pay rates by a rack-rent, as proposed by the present Bill. The Duke of RICHMOND expressed his perfect readiness to postpone the measure to any day which might be most con venient to the Noble Duke. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY concurred in the suggestion of the Noble Duke. After some observations from Lord FALMOUTH, the Bill was postponed till to-morrow. The Civil Bill Courts (Ireland) Bill was read a first time. Their Lordships then adjourned, at a quarter past eight o'clock. HOUSE OF - COMMONS, JULY 18. The SPEAKER took the Chair at 4 o'clock. Mr. HUME presented a petition from Marylebone, com plaining of the state of the law relative to licensing ale-houses. METROPOLITAN CEMETERY BILL. Captain AL SAGER brought up the Report of the Com mittee on the South Metropolitan Cemetery Bill. Mr. C. LUSHINGTON stated that in consequence of some of the clauses of the Bill having been modified, he should withdraw his opposition to it, at the same time stating that he entertained for its obnoxious provisions his original disgust. Mr. BA INE S thought there' would be no difficulty in interring Dissenters in this ground. He hoped, therefore, that all objections would be done away with. Dr, BO WRING said that a great part of his opposition had been removed by the modification of the clause. He must, however, be allowed again to repeat, that he entertained great objections to the distinctions that existed with reference to the interment of Dissenters and Churchmen. After some observations from Mr. WILKs, Sir R. INGLIs, and Mr. BARNARD, the Report was received. Mr. HAWES brought up the Report of the Committee on the Hungerford and Lambeth Suspension Bridge. TRINITY (LEITH) HARBOUR. Sir A. L. HAY moved the second reading of the Trinity (Leith) Harbour Bill. Sir G. CLERK was sorry to b e o bli ge d again to troubl e the House, but as the promoters of the Bill had chosen to put forward as a ground for its support, that the clause which led to its rejection or withdrawal from the House of Lords was inserted by him ( Sir George Clerk), he felt it necessary to explain. The Honourable Baronet here read a copy of a circular requesting the attendance of Hon. Members to sup port the second reading of the Bill that evening, in conse quence of the avowed determination of Sir G. Clerk to oppose the Bill in all its stages, although the clause which led to its withdrawal from the House of Lords had been inserted by Sir George himself. He (Sir G. Clerk) would shew that the whole of the statements in that note were false.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Baronet here entered into a statement re lative to a clause which had been introduced for the regu lation of the duties which were to be levied upon vessels, and contended that the promoters of the Bill alone were an swerable for the clause which they now found objectionable. In fact, when the present Bill went before the House of Lords, the absurdity was so evident that they found it neces sary, in order to render it intelligible, to withdraw the clause for the present. He would conclude by asking the House whether, in this instance, where the parties had made a blun der of their own Bill, they were to grant an unusual inclul- Nl._ % gence ?--and whether it was right, for that purpose, to establish a precedent? He hoped the House would do no such thing. After a few words from the SPEAKER, the purport of which could only be gathered from what followed, Sir A. L, HAY then said, Sir, am Ito understand that this Bill cannot with propriety be read a second time ? The House was aware this was a Bill which had been discussed, and examined into, by a great majority of the House. It was aware also of the pecitliar circumstances under which the Bill had been brought back to the House.—( Hear, hear.) The Bill was nor a Bill which had been re-intro duced, after having been rejected by the other House on its merits, was introduced in conformity to the amend ments of the other House, and therefore he did not con ceive that the Honourable Baronet could with propriety call upon the House to oppose the second reading. The Bill would be a great improvement to Scotland, and was of great importance to the United Kingdom. He must say that he considered the opposition to it most unjustifiable. Mr. WILK S had enquired of the agents of the Bill, and found that it was precisely the same as it had passed from the Committee of the Lords. Mr. .HUME hoped that, as the Bill had undergone such an ordeal, it would now be allowed to pass. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought the Bill an un exampled outrage on private property. The SPEAKER enquired whether there was r. printed Bill in the hands of Hon. Members ? Sir A. L. HAY said there was not. The SPEAKER said, if that was the case, the Hon. Mem ber could not move the second reading of the Bill. Sir A. L. HAY then said he would withdraw his motion for the second reading for that day, and give notice for to morrow. Sir G. CLERK said he had procured copies of the Bill, in which there were several differences. Sir A. LEITH HAY would not press the Bill, if, after having it printed and put into the hands of Hon. Members, such a measure was now deemed informal. On the contrary, if that objection was obviated, he should certainly take the sense of the House upon it. Mr. WALLACE contended that the House was perfectly in a condition to go on with the second reading of the Bill. Sir A. L. HAY would now move that the Bill be read a second time.'- • The SPEAKER doubted whether, consistently with the standing orders of the House, such a course could be taken. Sir A. L. HAY observed that in many cases the standing orders had been dispensed with ; but, in his opinion, it would be better to avoid such a proceeding. If, however, the oppo sition was persevered in, he should move that the standing orders be suspended. After a pause, the Hon. Baronet again rose, and said he should withdraw the motion till to-morrow.—(Laughter from the Opposition Benches.) A short discussion then took place, between Mr. STEWART M‘KENZIE, Sir G. CLERK, and Sir A. L. HAY. After a few words from the SPEAKER, which were not audi ble in the Gallery, the Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Friday next. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE—MR. CUNDY. Captain PECHEL L wished to know what course the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Wynn) intended to adopt in this case. Mr. W YNN could not answer the question until he heard what Mr. Cundy had to say for himself.—( Hear hear.) This was a charge of a most serious nature against a member of that House. Mr. HUME said that if they brought to the bar of the House any.person in England, Scotland, and Ireland, that made statements against individual Members of that House, they would have enough to do. Sir C. BURRELL would, with the permission of the House, state the circumstances that had induced him to make a complaint to that House. On being first informed by Mr. Bennett of the statement that had been made by Mr. Cundy, he told Mr. Bennett that it was absolutely untrue, and that he would make a point of going to Mr. Cundy and de manding an explanation. He saw Mr. Cundy in the House of Lords, and said to him, " How dared you to say to Mr. Bennett that I was influenced by a bribe of 15,0001. to give my support to Mr. Stephenson's line ?" Mr. Cundy at first denied having said so, but he (Sir C. B.) then said, " Mr. Bennett is a man of two much honour to mis represent any thing you said, and therefore it is impossible but that you must have said something of the sort." Here upon Mr. Cundy said, " Sir, I did not say so, but I said that I had heard other persons say so." He (Sir Charles Burrell) then said, " Mr. Cundy, you have no right to disparage the character of another man, by making charges against him, without first ascertaining whether or not they are founded in fact ; and I should be serving you rightly if I have you brought to the Bar of the House of Commons ; and if he repeated anything to his (Sir Charles Burrell's) prejudice, the consequences would be on his own head." Those were the words, as near as he recollected. He had only done his duty to the House and his own character in bringing forward this subject.—( Hear.) He did not care who impugned his conduct, whether simple or gentle; he was ready to meet him, whether in the House or out of the House, and he called for the fullest inquiry into the matter.--( Hear. ) Mr. lIUME considered that, after the declaration of the Hon. Baronet, it would be impossible to do otherwise than to wit in Mr. Goody. The Sergeant at Arms, by order of the Sp ea k er , b roug ht M r Cundy to th Bar, who, on being examined by the Speaker, said his name was Nicholas Wilcox Cundy, and was a civil engi neer. Had been employed in making a survey for a level road between London and Brighton. Had never solicited any Member of the House for his attendance. Had had some conversation with Mr. I3ennett on the subject of a Rail-road called the South Western Railway. About 14 or 15 days ago he called upon Mr. Bennett, upon the subject of the South Western Railway, when a conversation was commenced by Mr. Bennett as to the resistance of the landowners generally upon the line. There was some reference made to the large remuneration which several landowners were to receive. He had a conversation with Mr. Bennett relative to the remu neration which Sir C. Burrell was to receive. The substance of that conversation was contained in a paper which he held in his hand, and which he would submit to be read by the Clerk.—( Cries of " Read," and " No.") In answer to questions from Mr. HUME, the witness said he had drawn up the statement contained in the paper that day. The conversation he had had with Mr. Bennett was elicited from him, and he had been asked if he had heard of the large remuneration the landed proprietors were to receive. He (witness) replied that he had. lie commenced with the Brighton end, and stated it was reported Sir C. Burrell was to receive 15,0001. as compensation. That he had stated from re port, not from any certain information of his own. The report was published in the Brighton papers, and conveyed to the public generally through the press. He had mentioned the names of other landed proprietors, not Members of that House. He had said that Sir C. Burrell appeared to take great interest in the matter, in favour of Stephenson's line. He had a note from Sir C. Burrell, which he would read to the House.— (Cries of " Read, read.") Sir. C. BURRELL had not the least objection to the note being read, but it had no reference to the matter. Witness The report first appeared in the Brighton Gazette, five or six weeks ago. In answer to questions from Mr. GORING and Mr. ROBINSON, witness said that he had never stated that the majority in favour of Stephenson's line were influ enced by improper motives. Sir C. Burrell had spoken to him rather warmly in the lobby of the House of Lords about the remuneration which he had stated him to have received. He cannot say whether Sir C. Burrell denied having received it or not. Witness subsequently went toMr. Bennett, and reminded him that he had only mentioned the matter, without vouching for its truth. If the House would appoint a Committee to enquire into this subject, he would treat the Order of the House with all re spect and attention, and would appear and give all the evi dence he could respecting this question. Mr. HUME—Mr. Cundy had already said that he knew nothing of the subject, and that he mere ly repeate d reports he had seen elsewhere. Sir C. BURRELL hoped Mr. Benett's letter would be read and contrasted with the answers of the prisoner. The agentsof the Railroad Company were ready to prove the un truth of the statement. Captain PECHE LL said there was nothing for the House to animadvert upon. Mr. Cundy fully de&ad having made the accusation. Mr. Cundy was an iti-used man ; his line of road was adopted under the name of 'Mr. Stephenson's line, under certain modifications and slight changes, and it was na tural for him to feel a little irritability. The House should consider this. The Hon. Baronet ought to make a little al lowance. He himself was frequently maligned for his support of measures, yet he did not consider it necessary to drag his accusers before that House. Sir R. PEEL thought the House were travelling out of the question. The prisoner utterly denied having made the charges against his Right Hon. Friend ; there he thought the matter should end. Lord J. RUSSELL agreed with the Right Hon. Baronet, and would therefore move thut, as the Hon. Member was fully acquitted. the Orders of the Day be now read. Mr. W YNN thought, as there was a flat contradiction in the letter of Mr. Benett to the explanation of the prisoner, the proceedings should be suspended till the Hon. Member appeared in his place, and either corroborated or retracted his accusation against the prisoner. Mr. HARDY said that Mr. Benett, by the denial of the prisoner, was evidently charged with untruth ; he should, therefore, be called on to vindicate himself. Sir T. TROUB RIDGE said that all the members of the Committee, himself among the rest, were involved in the ac cusation; be would, therefore, move that the letter of Mr. Benett be read in the hearing of Mr. Cumly, and- that Ir. be again recalled to reply to its statements. Lord J. RUSSELL said he would move as an amendment that the Orders of the Day be read. After some further conversation, in which Lord Castlereagh, Sir George Strickland, Sir John Campbell, and Lord George Lonnox joined, the House divided, when there appeared-- For the motion For the amendment . Majority 58 On the motion that the House resolve itself into Com mittee upon the Stamp Duties Bill, Sir CHARLES KNIGHTLEY was understood to aQ; whether it was the intention of Government to reduce the duty on soap The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it was not the intention at present. NEWSPAPER COPYRIGHT. Sir R. INGLIS said, that as the House was about to go into Committee c n the Stamp Duties Bill, he wished to ask the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the E , (rtiequer whether he was prepared with a clause in order to secure the copyright of articles of intelligence, leading articles, and parliamentary debates to the proprietors of the newspapers ? He thought it right that those parties should be protected in the enjoymen t of the fruits' of their talent aiv:l enterprise. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he had not only used his best efforts on the subject, but he had received the sketch of a Bill in reference to it from parties concerned in some of the London Journals, which he had put into the hands of his Learned Friends the law officers of the Crown. Having received that Copyright 13111 .from only a portion of the proprietors of the London Press, 1 1-e . had re ferred to the general body of the newspaper prop m -tors for their opinions in regard to it, and from them he had not as yet received any reply. He was certainly very anxious to secure to these persons the sole benefit of the talents and mean.' which they expended upon their respective publications ; but he must add, that he saw manifest objections to the plan which had been submitted to him. _ _ _ Lord ASHLEY was desirous of hearing from the Noble Lord the Secretary of State for the Home Department, whether he was aware that an order had been issued by the principal inspector of factories, that all children under thirteen years of age should attend school twelve hours in the week and which was so expressed as to render an evasion of the- Factory Act possible. In the 21st clause of that Act it was enacted, that not only should they attend twelve hours a week, but that those hours should be distributed over six days. By the order to which he alluded, the school attendance might be given by the children in a mass. He was also desirous of hearing whether it was the intention of the Government to increase the number of inspectors, as at present it was quite clear they were not sufficient for the proper supervision of the factories. Lord J. RUSSELL was aware of the regulation issued under the authority of inspectors, and although it was not con trary to the meaning of the Act, it did appear that from its wording some misunderstanding might arise, and he should accordingly call Mr. Horner's (the sub-inspector) attention to it. With respect to the increase in the number of inspectors, the subject was, with many other points connected with the same question, under consideration, and, if it might be found necessary, would meet with due attention. After x remark in reply from Lord ASHLEY, Mr. FIELD EN addressed the House on the subject, but in so low a tone as to be altogether inaudible. Mr. II U2,IE thought they should wait until a copy of the instructions was laid upon the table of the 'House. It was then understood that Lord JOHN RUSSELL pro mised to lay upon the table of the House the regulations issued by the factory inspectors with respect to this subject, a return which Mr. Hindley hoped would include all regulations by the inspectors. Mr. MILES thought that after what had passed with res pect to the reports spread by Mr. Cundy in reference to the member for South Wilts it was his duty to move that Mr. Cundy be again brought to the bar of that House, and that the Hon. Member for South Wilts he ordered to attend in his place on Friday next. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that after what had occurred such a proceeding was unneces sary. Not the slightest blame or stigma could possibly attach to the Member for South Wilts. The course which the Hon. Gentleman wished to pursne appeared to him rather calculated to give weight and currency to a charge, which the House itself did not, nor could for one moment, entertain. He hoped, therefore, the Hon. Gentleman would perceive how utterly needless it was to pursue the subject further.—( Hear. ) Sir C. BURRELL said he knew it would be a matter of exceeding inconvenience to the llon. Member, whose health was in a very precarious state, to attend the House, though he himself expressed the greatest anxiety to do so if the House thought it necessary—( Hear, hear)—and he was quite sure that the Hon. Member himself would be the first and most anxious to refute any statements which might be prejudicial to him. Dr. BO WRING said that he would oppose the motion on a higher ground than the Hon. Member's health or conve nience, viz., that that I - louse was most perfectly satisfied with the high and honourable character of the Hon. Gentleman. Mr. MILES seeing what appeared to be the general im pression of the Hous e , wou ld yield to the withdrawing of his motion. STAMP DUTIES BILL. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE QUER, the House resolved itself into Committee on this Bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then said. that before the Committee proceeded to the consideration of the clauses of this Bill he thought it necessary to state to them in general terms the alterations which he proposed to make in the measure since it had been last under discussion. These alterations would, he thought, meet the objections which had been urged by Honourable Members on the last discussion in behalf of a very respectable class of persons : he meant the printers of the metropolis. The Hon. Member for Chester (Mr. Jervis) had objected to the 180th clause, the object of which was to impose on printers an obligation and liability with respect to the advertisement duty. It had been stated on that occasion (and stated with considerable force), that to sub ject the printer for arrear of advertisement duty, of which, in all probability, he was not cognisant, to have his goods and chattels seized and all goods found on the premises, was un just and hard towards him. He had always stated that it was necessity alone which made him have recourse to this or any other step of a restrictive nature ; and he was re joiced to find, on communication with the Stamp-office, that by takia, more precaution with res p ec t to th e se curity given Cos the collection of the advertisement duty, he should be enabled to free the printer altogether from the application of this clause. Therefore his first duty was to move that clause 180 be omitted.—( Hear, hear.) It might, perhaps, be convenient that he should pro ceed a little further, in stating to the Committee the other alterations which he meant to propose. In the first in stance he wished to express his determination of adhering to the resolution which he had originally formed of not impos ing any obligation which was not absolutely necessary. but at the same time not to leave himself powerless with regard to the collection of the revenue. With respect to the word " Pamphlet," inserted in one of the clauses, it was objected to that such publications would thereby be brought under the terms of this Act as were not at present subject to the News paper Duty. He meant to omit that word altogether ; but in order to guard against abuses (which on a former occasion he had stated as his only object in introducing the word), it was his intention to introduce a general clause for the purpose of pre venting any paper liable to a stamp escaping free of duty by being put into a pamphlet shape. Now, with respect to the stringent clauses giving immediate newer against those who violated the laws, it was urged in objection to them as they originally stood, ,' These clauses will subject parties to penalties without their knowing that they are liable to them. We (continued the printers) are perfectly satisfied with and entirely acquiesce in your design of taking all necessary steps for the collection of the revenue, provided you do not entail upon us risk and in convenience, and loss of character, and forfeiture of pro perty, if inadvertently and without notice we commit a viola tion of the law." He thought he might as well, as so much doubt had lately been expressed with respect to the quarter from which he received information, and on what suggestions he had acted at once, give the names of the four gentlemen who waited upon him with reference to this question on the part of the printers. They were Mr. Woodfall, Mr. Richard Taylor, Mr. M'Clure, and Mr. Alexander Mackay. After some communications he received from them certain proposi tions which appeared to them the most desirable to have adopted. He told them that without communicating with the Stamp-office department, and his Honourable Friend the At torney-General, to submit them to the one, in order to see that these suggestions were not likely to cause any loss to the revenue ; and, to the other, to ascertain whether they were practicable, he could give them no distinct answer. On that day he had seen them again ; he had gone through the new clauses with them, and they were convinced that these clauses (233 and 234) were unexceptionable. These clauses, then, would run in the following manner :—All printers would be not required but permitted to register their names at the Stamp-office, to state their place of abode, and where the business of the journals or newspapers for which they printed were carried on ; and when they undertook the printing of any new journal to state the name of that new Journal. In the event of this class of printers printing any new journal with out a stamp, they would not be subject to A penalty until they received notice, by which it was announced that the paper which they printed was not stamped; and that if they did not discontinue it, they would sueject themselves to the penalties of the Act. Also with respect to the stamped press, it is provided, in order to guard against another inconvenience to which this regulation may be exposed, that if any of those printers of registered papers has one hundred papers with the stamp impression sent to him to print, and one thousand with out it, and that he prints them, he thereby commits an evasion and violation of the Act, and must abide the consequences. For he held it to be clear, that the receipt of such papers as were without the impression, with directions to have them printed, was in itself equivalent to the notice which, in the case of a registered printer printing an unstamped paper, the Stamp-office was bound to send him.—(Hear, hear.) These alterations met the objections which were urged on a former night; they answered the views of the printers, who were the parties principally affected by these clauses ; and the only parties subject to the penalties of the Act without notice were those who refused to register their names, and who could not complain of having no notice of their violation of the law served upon them, since they did not afford any means of doing so.—(Hear, hear.) Observations had also been made on the definitions given in the schedule of the Bill as to the publications which should be liable to stamp duty. Now, he had already most distinctly stated that there should be no publication brought within the schedule which was not now subject to stamp duty. But in order to prevent any possible disadvantage, he was prepared to continue any exception which now existed in express terms. Now, with these alterations, Hon. Gentlemen will see, that whilst they had not abandoned one iota that was necessary for the security of the revenue, they had taken every pos sible means to screen the parties from all just cause of complaint. There had been objections urged on a former occasion to joint-stock companies, or large newspap,er com panies, the proprietors of which were unknown ; and it was suggested that a registration of the names of the proprie tors might be expedient. He believed that the Hon. Mem ber for Liskeard (Mr. C. Buller), who spoke upon this question, was not then prepared with any motion upon this subject ; all he could say was, that he did not think a re gistration of the proprietors absolutely necessary for the protection of the revenue ; but he certainly considered it part of that salutary system of restraint by which responsi bility was impoied on all parties connected with newspapers. Hear, bear, hear. ) On the question of the separate die for each newspaper, he wished to reserve hims e lf un til the clause which referred to it should arise; but lie deemed it necessary to give the general explanations which he had• done, before the 'clauses which occasioned them were brought under diwnsion..—(Hear, hear.) The Ri'yht Hen. Gentle man concluded bs' moving that cla,z3e 180 be struck out. Mr. WAKLEY expressed his great satisfaction at the course which the Right Hon. Gentleman had taken. With