The Sun. — London, England, 1844-02-23 00:00:00

Cbtrti Illittion SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) 31ARLBOROUGH HOUSE, FEB. 23, 1844. The Queen Dowager has been pleased to appoint the Mar chioness of Ormonde to be one of the Ladies of her Majesty's Bedchamber, in the place of the Countess of Mayo, deceased. DOWNING-STREET, Fru. 22. The Queen has been pleased to appoint John Grey Porter Atthill, Esq., to be her Majesty's Attorney-General for the bland of St. Lucia. WAR-OFFICE, FEB. 23. 17th Light Dragoons—Second-class Staff Surgeon J. B. Gibson, M.D., to be Surgeon, vice Pilkingten, promoted on the Staff, Feb. 23. Scots Fusilier Guards—The Hen. J. W. Fortescue to be Ensign and Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Rodney, wbo:retires, Feb. 2.3, Ist Regiment of Foot—Ensign F. Carter, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Lysons, promoted in the 3d West India Re giment ; W. H. S. Sharpe, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Carter, Feb. 23. 3d Foot—Major C. E, Eaton, from 29th Foot, to be Major, vice Barr, who exchanges ' • Dec. 15, 1843. 20th Foot—Lieutenant W. Frith to be Captain, without purchase, vice Brock, deceased. Ensign J. 11. Jackson to be Lieutenant vice Frith ; Jan. 3. J. E. Deane, to be Ensign, vice, Jaekson ; Feb. 23 d. 21st Foot—Paymaster G. P. Erskine, from 45th Foot, to be Paymaster, vice Jean, deceased ; Feb 23d. 22d Foot—Captain D. R. Smith to be Major without pur chose, vice W. Raban, who retires upon full-pay; Lieutenant W. B. Kelly to be Captain, vice Smith, Feb. 23. 25th Foot—Lieutenant H. T. Walker to be Adjutant, vice Priestley, promoted, Feb. 23. 26th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon W. Home, M.D., from the Staff, to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Menzies, who resigns, Feb. 23. _ 28th Foot—Captain F. Adams to be Major, without pur chase, vice Parker, deceased ; Captain G. R. Cummin, from 78th Foot, to be Captain, vice M'Murdo, who exchanges, Oct. 20; Lieut. E. Lugard, from 31st Foot, to be Captain, vice Adams, Oct. 29 ; Ensign J. A. Macdougall, from 62d Foot, to be Lieut., without purchase, vice Mac Lachlan, de ceased, Nov. 12. 2t:th Foot—Major M. Barr, from 3d Foot, to be Major, vice Eaton, who exchanges, Dec. 15. 30th Foot—Ensign C. D. Oliver to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Broome, who retires ; R. S. Lindesay, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Oliver, Feb. 23. 40th Foot—A. R. Rundle, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Roberts, appointed to the 62d Foot, Feb. 23. 49th Foot—W. E. H. `'ere, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Ponsonby, appointed to the Ist or Grenadier Regi ment of Foot Guards, Feb 23. 50th Foot—Lieut. R. E. De Montmorency, from the 7th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Clarke, promoted, Feb. 23. 55th Foot—Lieut U. Edwards to be Captain, without pur chase, vice De Havilland, deceased, Sept. 7, 1843 ; Ensign T. R. Hickson to be Lieutenant, without purchase, July, 15, 1843 ; Ensign W. J. J. Smith to be Lieutenant, vice Ed wards, Sept. 7, 1843. To be Ensigns, without purchase—G. J. A. Cameron, Gent., vice Hickson, Feb. 23 ; G. S. Home, Gent., vice Smith, Feb. 24; Lieutenant J. Freud to be Adjutant, vice Magrath, deceased, July 4. 56th Foot—R. C.' Stanhope, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Austin, promoted, Feb. 23. 62d Foot—Ensign C. Roberts, from the 40th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Macdougall, promoted in 28th Foot, Feb. 23. 66th Foot—W. Simpson, M.D., to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Grogan, appointed to the Ist Dragoons, Feb. 23. 67th Foot—Captain F. W. Lane, from 3d West India Regi ment, to be Capain, vice Vane, who exchanges, Feb. 22; Captain R. Hare, from half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice G. A. Currie, who exchanges, receiving the difference ; Lieut. H. Collette to be Captain, by purchase, vice Hare, who retires ; Ensign R. Jones to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Collette ; J. C. Murray, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Jones, Feb. 23. 68th Foot—Major-General Sir E. Gibbs, K. C.D., to be Colonel, vice Lieut.-General Sir W. Johnston, K.C. 8., de • ceased, Feb. 21. 70th Foot—Major E. J. White, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, without purchase, vice J. Kelsall, who retires upon full-pay Captain W. Taylor, to be Major, vice White; Lieut. J. P. Castobadie, to be Captain, vice Taylor ; Ensign J. W. Filder, to be Lieutenant, vice Costebadie ; F.,W. Dowse, Gent., to be Ensign. vice Filder, Feb. 23. 78th Foot—Captain W. M. G. Nl'Mordo, from 28th Foot, to be Captain, vice Cumrnin, who exchanges, Oct. 20, 1843. 85th Foot—G. Thompson, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Lord Langford, promoted in 7th Foot, Oct. 23. 98th Foot—Ensign S. H. H. Edwards to be Lieutenant, without purchase, Dec. 18, 1843; C. B. Browne, Gent., to be Ensign, vice Edwards, promoted, Feb. 23; Lieut. F. T. Wade to be Adjutant, vice Ormsby, promoted, Dec. 18, 1843. 3d West India Regiment—Crptain C. B. Vane, from the 67th Foot, to be Captain, vice Lane, who exchanges, Feb. 22. Cape Mounted Riflemen—Easign J. Borrow to be Lieute• nant, by purchase, rice Le Touzel, who retires ; Ensign R. G. G. Cumming, from the Royal Newfoundland Companies, to be Ensign, with purchase, vice Bissett, promoted, Feb. 23; J. S. Francis, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Borrow, Feb. 24. Royal Newfoundland Companies—W. J. Coen, Gent. to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Cumming, appointed to Cape Mounted Riflemen, Feb. 23. ISAEYET.—Captain R. Hare, of 67th Foot, to be Major in the Army, Nov. 23. HOSTLTA STAFF.—lnspector- General of Hospitals H. Bone, M.D. with local rank, to be Inspector-General of Hos pitals, Oct. 2 ; Staff-Surgeon of the Second Class W. M. Ford to be Staff- Surgeon of the First Class, vice Barclay, promoted, Feb. )6. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Shropshire. South Salopian Yeomanry Cavalry—The Hon. 0. G. C. Bridgeman, commonly called Lord Viscount Newport, to be Captain, vice W. Lloyd, deceased; J. Rorke, Gent., to be Cornet, vice R. Corbett, deceased. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Sornersetshire. West Somerset Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry—F. W. Slade, Esq., to be Captain, vice Ord, resigned ; P. P. Houverie, Gent., to be Cornet, vice Maher, resigned, Feb. 20. BANKRUPTS. RICHARD EGAN LEE and JOHN HADDOCK, printers, Craven-yard, Drury-lane, to surrender March 4, and April 12, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Walsh, Lincoln's Inn-fields. JOHN CONA WAY, cheesomonger, Gray's Inn-lane, March 8, and April 5, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee, Coleman-street ; Lawrence and 1-)lews ' Bucklersbury. (EDWARD A RNATT, baker, Oxford, March 5, at at eleven, and March 29, at twelve, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Green, official assignee, Aldermanbury; Spencer, Verularn-buildings ; Brunner, Oxford. WILLIAM GOLDING, innkeeper, Gletusford, Suffolk, March 6, of twelve, and March 29, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Basinghall; Chilton and Acland. Chancery-lane ; Gooday, Sudbury. ROBERT PENNY, draper, Cockermouth, March 5, and April 16, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court. Wakley, official assignee, Newcastle-upon-Tyne ; Waugh, Cockermouth ; Stubbs, Furnival's Inn, London. WILLIAM JACKSON, baker, Liverpool, March 12, and April 3, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court. Turner, official a,sigme, Liverpool, Vincent and Co., Temple Lon. don ; Deane, Liverpool. JOHN HUGHES, painter, Liverpool, March 8, at half past eleven, and April 2, at eleven, at the Liverpool Distriet Court. Cazenove, official assignee, Liverpool ; Maples, Pearse, Stevens, and Maples, Frederick's-place, 0:d Jewry, Eondon ; Fairclough, Liverpool. JAMES SI ALLALIEU, woollen manufacturer, Saddle worth, Yorkshire, March 8, and April 19, at twelve, at the Mancheester District Court. Hobson, official assignee, Manchester ; Rickards and Walker, Lincoln's Inn-fields ; Buckley, Ashton-under-Lyre. NOTICES OF INSOLVENCY. R. Humble, assistant draper, Glossop, Derbyshire. J. Burge, jun., tailor, Weston-super-Mare, Somersetshire. F. Randle, grocer, Dudli Worcestershire. C. Wright, victualler, Shipston on Stour, Worcestershire. E. Sawyer, trader, Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire. I. Brooks, stone mason, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire. J. T. Carlisle, schoolmaster, Pendleton, Lancashire. G. Worrell, Post-office clerk, Birmingham. F. Farrar, attorney, New Peckham. D. Gregory, coal merchant, Cheltenham. T. Green, innkeeper, York. M. Whitaker, clothier, Dewsbury, Yorkshire. W. Elogy, saddler, Manchester. E. James, cordwaincr, Sheffield. F. Sowry, shopkeeper, Wortley, Yorkshire. J. Hill, fruiterer, Rochdale. 0. R. Windsor, solicitor, St. Ann's -terrace, St. John's wood. J. Hillier, builder, Fulham. R. Tackle, baker, Creek-road, Deptford. G. Atherley, grocer, South-street, Chelsea. M. S. Phillips, butcher, Cheltenham. G. Rickwc,od, veterinary surgeon, Bedford. T. Turnbull, grocer, Skipton, Yorkshire. S. Lightfoot, rice cleaner, Liverpool. G. Parish, butcher, King's Swinford, Staffordshire. J. Walton, licensed victualler, Great Budworth, Cheshire. M. Camp, Abingdon. G. Cambden, nautical brazier, Afeeting-house-alley, Calvert _ street, Old Gravel-lane. H. Drury, Captain R.N., Portsea. G. Titehrnarsh, farmer, Foxton, Cambridgeshire. G. Doust, licensed victualler, Tonbridge, Kent. J. Turner, shoe-maker, Longdendale, Cheshire. W. J. Allen, butcher, Portsea, Southampton. PRICE OF SUGAR. The Average Price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, for the week ending Feb. 20, 1844, is 365. 10-td. per cwt., exclusive of the Duties of Customs paid or payable thereon on the im portation thereof into Great Britain. 'COURSE OF EXCH. Aintentarn CF. 12 6 Ditto, at sight l2 4 Rotterdam 2U. 12 6 Antwerp Ilamburgh M.D. 13 15 Altona l4 0 Paris, 3 days' sight 25 70 Ditto, 3 months 25 90 'Marseilles Bourdeaux Franktbrt on Maine 122 Petersburgh, 3Us 36i Berlin 7 Vienna, effec. H. 3 M 957 Trieste, ditto Madrid Cadiz %_NGE.—(THIS DAY.) I Gibraltar Leghorn Genoa Milan — Venice apl©s 39i l'alenno, per oz llBl Lisbon! 531 Oporto Rio Janeiro 23 Bahia 23 Buenos Avres NewYork,2ldys sight Philadelphia PRICES OF BULLION, PIER OZ. Foreign Gold, bars f 3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin 3 17 5 New Doubloons.— 0 0 0 New Dollars 0 4 94 Silver in Bare O4 11 36i Bilbao 36 Barcelona 36 Seville MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From Prince's Price Current of Feb. 23.) SrOAR.—To-day a steady demand existed for all sorts of West India Sugar, and former rates were well sustained. The total sales for the week are 1,100 hhda and tierces. Still without arrivals. BENGAL—At public sale, 1,100 bags in bond went at 38s 6d to 39s 6d for middling yellowish white ; 379 bass, duty paid, sold at 67s 6(I to 70s for middling to fine white, being very full rates. COFFEE.—The market is firm, and a steady business is dolitt-,-. At public sale Ceylon were offered, and sold at full priresi ordinary mixed 67s 6d, one lot 675, good ordinary pale 685.t0 68a6d, and sea damaged 64s so 65s 6d. Mocha at stiff prices; blacks 28s 6d, bold triage 59s 6d, ordinary 68s, fine ordinaryy 73s to 755, pea berry 80s, and damaged at 62s to 70s. Dutch Company's Java, good yellowish at 50s, Com pany's Padang, ordinary at 30s, and damaged 26s to 27s per cwt. PIMENTO.—At 2id to lid for good ord, and low middling bought in at 30 per lb. a ~ l~ CASSIA LIGNEA.—At an advance of Is to 2 per cwt on the middling qualities ; good thin quill 65s 6d to 675, middling ditto 655, middling coarse quill 635, ordinary coarse quill 58s 6d to 595, ordinary coarse thick quill 58s to 59s 6d, first class mouldy 59s to 60s, second ditto 55s to 55s 6d, slightly mouldy 60s, broken 48s to 495, broken ends 58s per c Wt. GlNGER..—Jamaica, middling and good white, 61 to 101 lis per cwt. PEPPER.—Holders are firm for white, and will not take lower rates : at auction 135 bags were offered and bought in at 61-d per lb for dingy white. Sumatra sold at 3d to 3Ad per lb. TEA.—The market is firm, and a good business is doing. Common sound Congou is selling at 814 d, cash. COCHMEAL.—The demand is brisk, and a good business is doin. Honduras at ld to 2d per lb advance, ordinary to mid dling silvers and foxy 4s 3d to 4s 9d ; Mexicans at 4s 6d for middling silvers, and 5s 2d to 5s 6d for ordinary blacks. OlL—This afternoon, at public sale 70 tuns Foreign Southern were offered, and partly disposed of at 321 to 34/ ; 20 tuns Davis Straits Whale, and 7 tuns Northern Whale, out. WIIALEFINS.—At auction 54 tons Foreign were put up, and sold at 2361 to 237, and cleaned 240 per ton. AS lES.—I2O brls Montreal Pearl at auction, were taken out, but 24S brls United States Pot partly sold, 3d sort at 21s 9d to 225, and unbranded 15s 9d to lis 9d per cwt. TALLow.—The market is flat and prices lower; P.Y.C. at 40s 3d per cwt. At public sale this afternoon 100 casks P. Y. C. were offered and bought in, first sort at 39s Gd to 39s 9d. second sort 31s 9d to 39s 6d ; casks Odessa Beef Tallow at 40s 3d to 40s 6d; 144 Casks North American incited at 37s to 40s 6d ; and 11 cassks East India at 398 per cwt. LARD-424 casks 25 kegs American at public sale sold at 35s 3d to 37s 6d, one lot at 39s 3d per cwt. INDIGO.—A fair amount of business has been done in all sorts of East India this week, and prices are firm ; the opera tions would have been on a more extended scale, if the mar ket had been better supplied. Spanish is wanted, but few parcels are to be had ; the stock is light. RICE.—In all descriptions of East India the operations have been upon a very extensive scale, and a further advance has taken place in prices ; middling to good white Bengal fetch ing Ils 6d to 12s, yellow Madras 9s, and white Java 9s 6d to 12s per cwt. Cleaned Rice in excellent request, Patna at 13s to 17s, and Carolina at 21s, 245, and 26s per cwt. SAGO is not so much in demand ; large Pearl at 15s to 15s 6d per cwt. Sago Flour 18s to 19s. Tapioca realised 2d to 24d for low white, and 54d to 6(1 for good white. Arrow root at firm rates. SPIRITS.—The operations in Jamaica Rum have beeu upon a very large scale this week, at an advance of 1d to 2d per gallon ; in all, 700 puns have been sold at 3s 4d to 4s for 30 to 36 per cent over proof; Demerara much wanted, and higher prices paid: 200 hhds sold at 2s 10d to 3s Id for good and fine quality ; Leewards are' higher . . and much ; wanted, proof at is lld to 2s; the y stock . in first hands all sorts is nearly exhausted. Brandy is dull of sale, and rather lower rates. Corn Spirits firm at'.los to lOs 2d. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) H OUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack a few minutes after Five o'Clock. _ . Lord WHARNCLIFFE brought in a Bill to simplify the transfer of real property, which was read a first time. POOR-LAWS.—RELIGIOUS INSTRUCTION. The Bishop of EXETER presented two petitions from Penryn, in Cornwall, and another place in the diocese of Exeter, praying their Lordships to adopt some means of se curing spiritual instruction to the inmates of union work houses. The Right Reverend Prelate then proceeded to move, pursuant to notice, for a Select Committee, to consider the provision which might require to be made for religious worship and spiritual instruc tion in the union workhouses in England and Wales. He begged to state that he would rot press this question to a division, as he would leave the question of Committee or no Committee to the responsibility of the Government. He had paid attention to the defects of the Poor-law Amendment Bill and to their operation for the last ten years, and in no portion of it had he seen such defects as in that which relatd to spiritual instruction. The inmates of the workhouses lie had seen exposed to the greatest spiritual destitution. He spoke of what he had witnessed in his own diocese and other places. He did net say things were not now ordered better in this respect. He particularly instanced the union of Liskeard, when, in consequence of the Commissioners having originally omitted to nominate a chaplain there was no spiritual instructor, except a Dissenting minister, who came there without being sent for by the inmates. This union formed a sort of precedent for the other, and this joined with the exertions of the Dissenters, led to their having no Chaplains in any union throughout the diocese. He held in his hand a remarkable proof of the accuracy of that statement. In the union house of St. Austell there was a large room originally designed for a chapel, but no chaplain was appointed, and an unlicensed Dissenting minister preached there twice every Sunday. In Bodmin, where the population of the union' amounted to 4,000 there was no chaplain, but the curate gave his gratuitous services one day in the week to instruct the poor. But in consequence of the extent of his parish it was wholly out of his power to visit them on the Sunday. There was in that house 56 inmates who were old people and unable to walk out of the house to church. There were also 45 children who had no other instruction in religion but what they received from schoolmasters. On Sundays, prayers were read by the master, or sometimes by the porter. In St. Germain's Union Workhouse there;was no chapel, and there were thirty-two aged persons who could never stir from the house. He came next to a case of a grave character, that of Penzance. The Union contained nineteen parishes, and the population extended to 45,951. There too every exertion was made in the Board of Guardians to obtain the appointment of a regular chaplain, but the party who resisted that measure succeeded in procuring the appointment of a clergyman who had apostatised from the Church. The clergy of the neighbourhood offered to do the duty gratuitously, but the Board of Guardians rejected the offer on the ground that it would be against the law, as the statute required that the chaplain must be an officer of the Union, and be paid for his services. He did not say anything against the moral character of the person who was appointed, but that he had cast off the office which he held in the Church. He took away the prefix of reverend from his name, and even went so far as to appear in public in a blue coat and other coloured clothes. Having cast himself from the Church he attached himself to a lady, who was a daughter of a rigid Dissenter, a banker in the town of Pen zance. He went so far as to attend her chapel, and he had his children baptised there. Their Lordships would suppose that the appointment of that Gentleman was not made with his (the Bishop of Exeter's) sanction. It was reported to the Com missioners, and they sent down an Assistant-Coremis sioner to inquire into the matter, but having re ceived his Report, they took no further notice of it. It was not long before this time when one of the most bar barous instances of cruelty was enacted in that union, when the master imprisoned an unfortunate female in a dark hole, although she told him that it would be the cause of her death, owing to the state of health in which she was ; and the souse quence was a premature labour and death. The Board of Guar dians:notwithstanding retained him in his situation, and it was not until the Assistant Commissioner heard of the matter, that he was discharged. Baptism in that union was administered in tt.e workhouse instead of the parisk church, and no registry was made until long after birth in the parish books, in cows.- vence of it being considered a private baptism. T 1 e Lord's upper was administered by an unlicensed person, ar d contrary to the laws of the Church. He should next allude to the parish of Redruth, which consisted of nine parishes, conta ning a po pulation of 48,569 souls. The appointment of a chat lain to that union was opposed, to allowing the chaplain to perform the two services, and the consequences was, that one of those Divine services were performed by a Dissenting preacher. The Assistant-Commissioner said the law required that some salary should be given, and a nominal sum of I/. per annum was given. This was then raised to 201., to which 601. was added by subscription ; and although the Secretary was thus raisedto 901., no gentleman could be got to discharge the duties in all the xorkhouses throughout Cornwall. Divine service was performed in the dining-room of the workhouse, to the great detriement of religion; and he trusted that their Lordships, in any Bill they should bring be fore the House, would see that care was taken to provide a proper room, which should be alone devoted to the performance of Divine service and the administration of the sacrament. In the union of Oakhampton, the letter of the resident clergy. man stated that the children born in the workhouse were all illegitimate, and were never brought to the church to be baptised. The consequence was, they were never baptized. because the vicar of the parish had no power to go to the Union work-houe to baptise a child, unless it was dangerously ill. (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAYEB took tke chair at Four o'Clock. The following Bills were read a second time and ordered to be committed :—The Ribble Navigation, the Lancaster and Carlisle Railway, the Ramsay Inclosute, the Bury (Hunting don) Inclosure, and the Liverpool New Gas and Coke Bills. NEWBURY AND GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDA 7 EVENING, FEBRUARY 23, 1844. BILL. Mr. CHARLES RUSSELL movcd the second reading of this Bill. Sir WILLIAM HEATHCOTE said he should oppose the second reading of this Bill, unless he had a clear understanding from the Hon. Member for Reading (Mr. Russell) that no opposition would be offered to the second reading of another Bill, to which the present one was closely allied. Two competing lines of railway had been proposed, one by the South Western Railway Company, from Basingstoke to Newbury ; and the other by the Great Western Railway Company, from Hunger ford to Newbury. The former Bill he ( Sir William Heath cote) would introduce in a few days. He thought, there fore, that it would be well to postpone the second reading of the present Bill for a fortnight, in order that both Bills might be read together and afterwards be referred to the same Committee. If the Hon. Member for Reading would undertake not to oppose the second reading of the Bill, for the Branch Railway from Basingstoke to Newbury, he (Sir W. Heathcote) would not offer any opposition to the present Bill, but unless the Hon. Member gave this pledge, he should move that the second reading of the Bill be postponed for a fort night. IMr. R. PALMER hoped that the Hon. Member for Read ing would agree to the proposition of the Hon. Baronet. He should have a petition to present against this line from nine tenths of the landholders through whose property the New bury and Basingstoke line would run. He had, however, no wish to oppose the second reading, if the two Bills were permitted to go together before the Committee. Mr. C. RUSSELL would not consent to any delay. The Hon. Gentleman had said they would sustain no disadvan tage by delay—neither would they gain any great advantage by having the Bill now read a second time. Ali the Stand . ing Orders had been complied with. The Bill would be re. ferred to the Committee of selection, and he should wish at once to take the judgment of the House. He th oug ht h e was not asking too much, in moving that the Bill be now read a second time. Mr. FRANCIS BARING had no doubt but that the Right Hon. Baronet would withdraw his opposition to the second reading of the Bill, if the Hon. Member for Reading would give the House his assurance that the second reading of the Bill for the competing line should not be opposed, but that both Bills should be referred to the Committee at the same time.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member for Reading, however, had not consented to give any such assurance. He believed that the inhabitants of the part of the county with which he was connected were much opposed to the present Bill, but he desired nothing unfair. He only wished that both Bills should be referred to the same a eun s n s co u tht ob a t f n eo et opposedhhe ee a t sr h e a ct t ho en t ha h eer sentimentses s eah reading u o n I n gd d Committee, a n d un l ess t h e Hon. M em b er f or R ea di ng gave vp s h e° some o rn yue much certainly ini v li o ot f e th fo e r ot t h h e e r pest should l ke ght H H e Gentle man at the head of the Board of Trade upon this subject. Mr. GLADSTONE said he regretted that his Hen. Friend the Member for Reading, who was the Chairman of one of the great railways, seemed to be disinclined to a postponement of this Bill.—(Hear, hear.) He thought it would be much better if these two Bills were to be brought before the House at the same time.—( Hear, hear.) He agreed with his Ho n . Friend that it would be meet unfair if the consideration of this Bill were to be postponed for any very long time, because he was aware of the great advantages to be derived by the public from diligence and celerity, but there could be no suspicion of a want of either on the part of the promoters of these Bills ; but still he thought their postpone. ment for a fortnight would do no harm.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. AGLIONBY said one of these Bills was before a Com mittee, of which he was a member, and he thought that before the next meeting of the House the Committee would be pre pared with its Report. Mr. C. RUSSELL said that on behalf of himself and of the Company to which he had the honour to belong, he begged to say that he had no desire to act counter to the wishes of the House, and he should consequently accede to the required postponement. The second reading of the Bill was then postponed for a fortnight. REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES—SUPPLY. Mr. FIELDEN presented three petitions from Manchester, Liverpool, and Oldham—the last bearing 3,200 signatures— praying that the House would not vote the Estimates for the army and navy until the grievances of the people were in quired into and redressed. Sir GEORGE STRICKLAND presented a petition to the same effect from Preston. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD presented a petition, signed by Andrew Cross, chairman of a public meeting of the inhabitants of Taunton, complaining of the unjust and extra vagant legislative, and oppressive and partial monopolies, civil and ecclesiastical; and they prayed the House not to vote the supplies necessary to support the present enormous military force till these causes of complaint are redressed. Also, peti tions from Crediton, in the county of Devon, and from Whit church, in Hampshire, to the same effect. NEW ZEALAND. Mr. B. BALDWIN presented a petition from New Zealand, stating that they paid 30,0001. a-year for protection, and yet that sufficient protection was not afforded them. They, therefore, pra}ed for sufficient protection, and also for an in quiry into the land titles. SURPLUS REVENUE. 111 r. WALLACE gave notice that instead of moving the re solution of which he bad given notice, that the surplus revenue be applied to the reduction of those taxes which bear most heavily on the working classes, he should, believing it to be more consistent and Parliamentary, move an address to the Crown for the same purpose. ASSESSED TAXES. _ Captain PECHELL gave notice that, on Thursday next, he should call the attention of the House to the system of punishing persons who were defaulters to the assessed taxes. POOR-LAW AMENDMENT BILL. Sir J. GRAHAM said it would be in the recollection of the House that when he introduced his Poor-law Amendment Bill he did so at a moment's notice, the House having met on the Saturday in consequence of its having counted out the previous evening. He took advantage of an opportunity he did not anticipate having, and explained the provisions of the Bill very briefly, and without the assistance of any note or document. On that occasion the Hon. and Gallant Member for Brighton (Captain Pechell) put a question to him which he answered at the moment, and he had since found ont that that answer was not a correct one. He ( Sir James Graham) had stated that there was no provision in the Bill authorising interference with the Gilbert unions. He was incorrect in stating this, and he apo logised to the Hon. and Gallant Member, and to the House for the mistake. There was one clause In the Bill, having reference to local Acts, the object of which he should be prepared to discuss on a future occasion. He would propose the second reading new, and take the dis cussion on the motion for going into Committee. But if this course should be objected to, considering the important debate which stood on the Order of the Day, he would feel it his duly to postpone the second reading of the Bill till a future day. If there was no opposition, however, to the course which he pro posed, he would move that the Order of the Day be then read. Mr. P. BORTHWICK, for one, had no objection to the Right Hon. Baronet reading the Bill a second time, provided he gave an understanding that there would be an opportunity of discussing, not only the amendments proposed in the Bill itself, but also the whole principle of the 13111.—( Hear. ) Sir JAMES GRAHAM said such opportunity would be afforded on the motion for going into Committee. Capt. PECHELL said thes6thi s clause, in connexion with the lith clause in this Bill,had created considerable alarm amongst the persons he represented, for they looked with great jealousy at any attempt at interference with the powers of their boards of guardians, or any interference) with their affairs. He hoped the Right Hon. Baronet would not persist in inter fering with the rights of those who had conducted the affairs of the poor with satisfaction both to themselves and to the ratepayers. Colonel SIBTHORP would not oppose the second reading of the Bill ;but he should at a subsequent stage take the sense of the House as to the propriety of the total annihilation of the Commissioners.—(Cheers and laughter. ) Mr. T. DUNCOMBE exonerated the Right Hon. Baronet from all blame for introducing the Bill on a Saturday. It was by the desire of himself (Mr. T. Duncombe) and other Hon. 'Members, that the Right Hon. Baronet had so introduced his Bill. He should not oppose the second reading, although he thought it capable of amendment. Those amendments, however, might be made in Committee. He wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet when it was his intention to move for a Com mittee to inquire into the operation of the Gilbert unions ? Sir J. GRAHAM said, it had been his intention to move for the appointment of the Committee before Easter. He would give the Hon. Gentleman due notice of his intention to move for the Committee, so that the parties concerned might have time for preparation. He should propose that the Bill be committed on Monday fortnight. After a few words from Mr. S. WORTLEY, the Bill wag read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday fortnight. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. Sir G. CLERK moved that the House, at its rising, do ad journ till Monday.—Agreed to. Sir R. PEEL moved, in conformity with the notice which he had given last night, that Mr. M. Blake be substituted in the room of the Hon. Member for Montrose as a Member of the Gaming Committee. He did so because the Ho nourable Gentleman had voluntarily retired from the Com mittee, and because he said he had no great knowledge of the turf, and had never made a bet.—(Laughter. )—Agreed to. POSTAGE PAPERS. - _ Mr. WALLACE wished to know from the Hon. Gentle. man, the Secretary for the Treasury, when the Free Postage papers would be issued ? Sir GEORGE CLERK said, that directions had been given to have a certain number of half-sheets prepared, as an experiment, which would be ready in a few days for deli very. They would be sold to the public at the lam e price as the present envelopes, namely at two shillling and three pence a quire, and lid. each separate sheet of paper. ADJOURNED DEBATE.—IRELAND. - The Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned debate having been read, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, he rose to discharge a duty which, he believed, that House and the country expected from him, in consequence of what had occurred in the course of this debate. He had been so often called;upon, challenged, and alluded to, that if he had any reluctance, which he had not, he could not possibly have declined joining in the discussion, and expressing his views and sentiments on the subject that had been before the House. He was pre pared to have performed this duty at an earlier period of the debate, and to have followed the Hon. and Learned Member for Worcester, and to have commented on tke observations he made. But he was sure the House would ex cuse him for saying, that the moment he heard that Hon. and Learned Gentleman drop from his lips the words,lHis Honour, in referring to his Right Honourable and Learned Friend, the Attorney-General for Ireland, he at once thought it would not become him (the Attorney-Ge neral) to step in between any Hon. Gentleman and the vindi cation of his personal honour. He gave way, therefore, to the Attorney-General for Ireland. In what manner that Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman discharged the duty imposed on him in vindicating that honour, of the able and ad m i ra bl e way in which he had discharged that duty, it would scarcely become him to speak. The House had already judged, and decided on that point; he might be permitted to say also that a more able speech, delivered in a more gentlemanly tone, and with more manly bearing, he had never heard.—(Loud cheers from the 'Ministerial benches.) He would at once express to the Hon. and Learned Member for Dungarvon his entire sa tisfaction at the explanation he had given of what took place at a trial in the county of Tipperary, some fourteen or fifteen years ago, when as many as thirty-six jurors were set aside on the part of the Crown. He was thoroughly convinced that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was only actuated by a desire correctly to discharge his duty and ensure the satisfactory administration of justice. Having to far discharged a debt of justice to the Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman, perhaps the House would allow him to set himself right on a point alluded to by the Right Hon. and Learned Member for Worcester, as to the conduct that was pursued on the part of the Crown in a case recently before the Exchequer, where he, as Attorney-General, consented that the trial should be sus pended, the jury discharged, and the defendant permitted to have an opportunity of stating his case on another occasion. I think it right that I shortly state the circumstances con nected with that case, that no mistake may be made as to the grounds on which he then acted. Before that trial it had been the invariable practice in the departments of the Customs and Excise to fix the precise day on which the trial was to come on. The able and learned person whose assistance I had in that department, for a reason which satisfied him at the time, and instead of keeping to the day fixed, which was the 24,10 August_, it for tour months, namely to the 24th of December. That was an entire departure from the ordinary course, end one which he (the Attorney-General) greatly discountenanced. When the charge was made he told the Hon. and Learned Member for Worcester he was as conscious as himself of the practice of the office. When the trial came on he had not the slightest idea the alteration in the time appointed for the trial would have been made a cause of objection. It was not until the case for the prosecution bad closed, and counsel had risen to address the jury for the defence, that he was aware a grand grievance was to be made of this alteration of the day fixed for the trial. The Solicitor he xeise w as out into the box and admitted it had been: invariable practise of the department to insert in the notice real day fixed for the trial, and that a delay of four months taken place. That there might be no ground for corn nt, he interrupted the counsel for the defence, and said he Id agree to have the jury discharged, and another day of ch the customary notice should lie given, appointed for the rial. This wan done with the consent of the other side and the sanction of the Court. The course he (the Attorney-General) adopted was advantageous to the de fendant and honourable to the Crown. That approbation had been expressed with reference to the course of proceed ing at Lancaster, at Cardiff, and at Carmarthen ; and he should presently have occasion to call the attention of the House to the circumstances that occurred with reference to each of those transactions. The favourable notice the House had been pleased to take of his conduct would undoubtedly animate him in the faithful discharge of his duty. He would be wanting in fairness to his Right Hon. Friend at the head of the Government if he did not state one of the principal encouragements he had received in the course of his public career to adopt that course which had been fa vourably noticed by the house. He hoped it would not be considered out of season if he mentioned very shortly what had oc curred when he was first appointed Attorney-General in 1834. Very shortly after his appointment, some diffculties arose, and he had reason to consult his Right Hon. Friend, new again, at the head of Treasury. His Right Right Hon. Friend was kind enough to give him his advice, and in doing so, he said, " You need never come to me again for advice. The respon sibility is yours, and let me give you this general direction, — consider well what you are about—make yourself master of the subject—don't decide in a hurry—ascertain what is your duty with reference to the public interest, and when you have ascertained it, look neither to the right nor to the left—look to the interest of the Crown on the one hand, and the public on the other, and when you have so ascertained your duty, then discharge it. When I differ from you, I will do justice to your motives. This is the only advice I wish to give you, and having given you that advice 1 leave yov t o the discharge of your duty. That was the only advice he had received, and it was advice worthy of the first Minister of the Crown to give to the first law officer of the Crown. It gave him confidence in the course which he Lad pursued, because it enabled him not merely to look to the letter of the law-- not merely to read the statutes, or a digest :of the common law; but to administer the law in such a manner as to make it in accordance with sound public opinion and in unison with the feelings ;nd sympathies of the great body of the co - nrnurit:,-,—(Cheers. ) It appeared to him that the present discaio s en was forcibly illustrative of the danger which must arise f t ern bringing subjects of this nature under discussion while ;;o r , ; eedings were pending.—( Hear. ) He perfectly admitted ti ight of the House to discuss thi. subject, and would admit h,t circumstances might occur which might render it neeessar) i•-i• the House to interfere at once ; but admitting the right of the House, he contended that the exercise of that right --vas n general calculated to Interfere with the purity of the administration of justice. To-day their discussions might be rtiaee, to protect a person who was supposed to be unjustly accosed—( Cheers)—to-morrow to immolate a victim to popular prejudice.—(Cheers.) He, therefore, should have desired that that the Eouse had abstained from discuss in pending, and which must ang ter d would be w br hc oiuhgb:cl still ei r erd il i i scussion elsewhere.—(Hear. ) He would discuss only so south as he was compelled to enter upon, and he woule endeavour, in so doing, to avoid all acri monious allusions and top.ca. The debate, as far as it had gone, was very much coained to members of the legal pro fession, ank to legal topics; but only the Hon. and Learned Member for Cork (Mr. Sergeant Murphy), and the Right Hon. Gentleman ths . ; Meander for Edinburgh, had so studiously avoided those topic and 11 much repudiated the profession to which they both ..elonged, he did not know. He recollected going with the Right Heil. Gentleman on the Northern Cir cuit and holding briefs with him ; he possessed too powerful a mind not to master all fle details of the law if he applied it to them, and he was toe tonest a man not to practise in the profession if he had not done so. He would therefore still continue to call him his Right Hon. and Learned Friend.— (A laugh.) He vas selected as a lawyer for office, and was employed in India in dot construction of a code, and he was succeeded by ;Mr. A 05, a gentleman of the highest attainments in Wesiminster Hall. He did not know whether his Hon. and Learned Friend had mixed up bad law with worse politics, therefore repudiated the profes sion, but having bieiself attained the highest pro fessional honour, ha was not content to lose this deeds et tutamen of the profession.—(Hear, hear.) He would go after him, and reclaim him, and try and bring him back again to the fold. He had heard the speech of the Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman with the greatest pleasure. He heard his splendid oration with the greatest delight—it was the outpouring of a mind most richly stored with varied informa tion—of a mind full of ,intellectual wealth, intermingled with that, similes drawn from ancient and modern literature and illustrations from every part of the world, and from all times and places. He had listened to that epeeists till he was almost lost in admiration —it was impossible not to listen to his glowing language—his magnificent periods—his powerful and shining points, without feeling the highest pleasure and gratification. But it was rather the oration of an author, a poet, or an orator than of a great statesman. He had looked in vain from the beginning to the end of that speech for something practical. The Right Hors. Gentleman complained of every body and of everything, but he had suffered his sympathy for Ireland to expend itself in barren generalities. There was nothing like a practical application to the present subject. The Right Ho nourable Gentleman complained of the construction of the jury and said that they onght to be contented with a common jury. This was repeated by the Hon. and Learned Member for Worcester and the Hon. Member for Dungarvon. Now, he begged to say, this bad never before been suggested by any human being. The coansel for the traverser., fifteen in number, had never even hinted at such an expedient.— ( Hear, hear.) Under these circumstances he did not feel it his duty to speculate on what would or ought to have been the reception of such a proposition, if it had been made. The suggestion ought to have been made when it could be acted upon ' • it should not have been reserved for that debate. Now with respect to the question of a special or a common jury—though he was not versed in the details of Irish proceedings, he begged to say that in this country he would no more have thought of trying such a case by a common jury than he would have thought of trying a case of high treason at the sessions. He was not aware of a single instance in which a triol of this kind had taken place by a common jury, and if he (the Attorney-General) representing the Crown, had on any occasion consented to depart frets; the general practice, he would have been betraying the duty which he owed to the Crown, without feeling at all certain that he either added to the security or the satisfaction of the subject.—( Hear.) In this case, the law officers of the Crown were consulted as to the practise, and they gave and unhesitating opinion that the trial ought to be by a special jury, and they did so for this reason, that in the case of a special jury, the forty-eight names were indifferently taken from the centre panel. In the heat of argument, the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite had spoken of the jury as being selected. Why, there - - Forty-eight names were taken by ballot from the list; the .0 were reduced to twenty-four, by each side striking off twelve twelve more were to 'be taken off by a further ballot, and the twelve remaining were to form the jury. This method, he contended, was free from reproach, free from difficulty and satisfactory to the public. It was preferable to allowing the Crown the power of setting aside a common jury. The Hon. and Learned Member for Worcester• himself ac acknowledged that this practice would have such odium attached to it, that the Crown would not exercire it. This mode was established for the purpose of avoiding that; it was smile, and it was impartial, because it played the Crown•and the tra versers on the same footing. The Hon. and Learned Gentle tleman (Mr. Sheil) had said that the lottery" had not turned out so favourably for the traversers as it might have done. But that formed n• ground of accusation against the public officer. —( Hear, hear.) One reason why he entered so deeply into these matters was, that he was himself at Carmarthen placed precisely in the same situation. He weot down to Carmarthen to the trials. There was a small population and a limited jury list. He was sorry to have to enter into these details publicly, for they were not very des:rable for publlicotion, but he was compelled to do so. When the jury list was laid before him he f6und only saventy-two names upon it, and he was creditably informed, that a very consi derable number of those persons on the jury list could not be trusted ; that some of them actually had taken part in those riots and outbreaks, and others were re presented by their relations, their neighbours, or their friends. In what he found there were upwards of thirty names he could not call upon with safety. What was he to do in that situation. He said at once, he would commu nicate with his Hoe. and learned Friend the Member for Bath (Mr. Roebuck), and he half shrunk from his duty, but he did as he felt he ought to do—he did exactly as the Honourable and Learned Member for Dungarvon (Mr. Sheil) had done in the case which he explained to the House last evening. He did set aside those he could not trust ; and he knew that if his conduct was questioned in that House he had but to explain his motives and his peal tion to obtain an approval of his conduct. He knew too the purity of his own motives, and he dared to do his duty. He had consulted the gentleman who was associated with him in his duty, and who was entirely opposed to him in polities. He men tioned this to show that he placed confidence in them. He felt that they were prepared to do their duty as much as ha was prepared to do his. They told him what was the custom in that part of England, and they told him that no trial ever took place without challenges being mad• en both sides. He had the authority and support of his Learned Friends, and he felt thet he ought to exercise to the fullest extent the pre rogative of the Crown, and obtain a jury from whom a firm but impartial verdict might be expected. Could the Attor ney-General for Ireland have dared to do as much ? (LEFT £PLYING.) SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS FllO3l THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAT. STANDA RD.—A kind of promi se was l ast n i ght given on the part of the Opposition that the lon g d e b ate s h a l l tersn i nate andai we shall be, of course, expected to say some ts conclusion, we readil y ava il ourselves of the our crowded columns for saying littl e a b out i t to -d ay. i debate has been a long , a dreadfully long one—unparall e led in to,x duration even already, but it is to b e remem b ere d , t h at et t hicien n tugs i s geoh of , it at f her Maje s ty' s Ali n i s t ers . n — could separate their per its frightful prolixity is in no respect attributabl e t o th ose w h o %b interests of the country, per sonal holnonednyaeei Indeed, ought d l i h l f ttdohtiefieor official servants o a interestsnc advantage ets oinfttihif eer f or tedious it e rot debat e th a t h as so no bly justified every one of their acts, and so firmly fixed their power. We shall not be surprised to hear th e f au lt-fi n d ers say that the easy permission of this nine d ays ' nu i sance i s b ut another instance of Sir Robert Peel's craft, arid that as he was merely laying a trap in allowing scope t o the " monster meet ings " of the Repealers, he has been i n lik e manner preparing a pitfall, by conniving at their " monster speeches," still with the same view of exposing to all men the vanity, the worthlessness, and the guilt o f hi s adversar i es i n the end. Mr. Shell speech was by a great deal the longest speech last night. Alr. Shell is a clever man in a party which has but three c l ever men (M r. C . Bul ler, Mr. Alacaulay, and himself), an d we never gru d ge hi m praise when praise is due ; but last night's speech was un doubtedly a failure—a failure, we mean, for Air. Sheil, for it would be a prodigy from the lips of Lord J. Russell, Air. Jos. Hume, Lord Howick, or Sir C. Napier, or any other opposi tion member but one of the three that we hav e name d. Th e speech was a failure, lively as it was ; like all Mr. Sheil's speeches, it was beyond them all, thin, extravagant, and incon clusive, and soiled by personalities such as we hoped Mr. Sheil had left behind him when he withdrew from " the Catholic As sociation." There was one allusion—we will hope that Mr. Sheil is ashamed of it—that compelled us to recollect, however invelun • tarily, a once notorious speech of l!ititi ; but we pass this in the ex pectation that such offences against decency and good feeling will not be repeated. It would he a jest to investigate the success of Mr. Shell's speech, as a reply to the unequalled argu ment of silo Ati....,...5y-Ceoci Ai for Ireland; such an attempt would be as absurd as that of the mathematician, who tried to bring the " Rape of the Lock" to trial by " Newton's Prin cipia." Widely different as the speeches are in the degree of merit, still more strongly are they contrasted in kind, and in the matter about which they are conversant. MELANCHOLY REVERSE OF FORTUNE.—An in stance of the sad changes to which persons who have moved high in commercial credit and worldly comfort, are frequently subjected, has occurred in the case of Mr Robson ' the projector and publisher of the " Post Office Directory," which bore his name. The unfor tunate gentleman, after suffering the loss of his fortune, and beholding the wreck of his hopes, sank lower and lower in poverty, until he was compelled to seek pa rochial aid, and at length died on Tuesday last in the Peckham workhouse, of which he had been for a con siderable time an inmate. THE WILLS' FORGERIES.—We learn from a source on which we place reliance, that Mrs. Dorey, one of the parties charged with being an active agent in the exten sive conspiracy by which large sums were obtained by means of these forgeries and fraudulent personations, has made a full confession ; and that the document is in the hands of the authorities. We presume that the fact of such confession having been made was the cause of Mrs. Dorey's solicitor taking no part in the last exa mination of the parties before the Lord Mayor, beyond requesting that the unfortunate woman should be allowed to remain in the Compter until the eve of the session. Captain the Hon. John Gordon (1818), brother of the Earl of Aberdeen and of Captain the Ron W. Gordon, one of the Lords of the Admiralty, is appointed to the command of the America, 50, frigate, fitting at Devonport, to relieve the Dublin, 50, in the Pacific. VIGILS.—(FRONT A CORRESPONDENT).---It is given out that there will be " vigils," to-morrow night, at the new Protestant church at Wilton-place. Will the Bishop of Lou don be present ? LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, Ft b. 22. (Before Chief Justice TINDAL.) FRASER r. lIAGLEy. — CnI II . CON . (Continued from our Third Edition of last night.) Mr. TuEslGEtt then replied in a powerful and able speech. The LORD CHIEF JUSTICE summed up, and the jury re turned a verdict for the defendant at ten o'clock last night. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF _LORDS, Feb. 22. DEANERY OF DROMORE. Lord AIONTEAGLE, in rising to move . for certain papers respecting the recent appointment to the Deanery of Dromore, would remind their Lordships of a discus :ion which had taken place last session respecting the Arehdeaconry of Armagh. On that occasion it ap peared to him that the appointment to that Aren deaconry had been the act of the:Home Government. but he thought with regard to the appointment to which he as about to direct their Lordships' attention, he should be ible to prove that the Irish Government was responsibc. n the former session it had not been denied that the recommendation of the Eecle,iastieal Commissioners for the severance of the two parishes constituting the Arch deaconry of Armagh had been disregarded, and the only ground assigned for departing from that recom mendation was the excellent private character of the individual appointed. It should be recollected that the avoidance of that deanery had been the act of the Go vernment itself, which had preferred the then Arch deacon to a bishopric. The emoluments of the Arch deaconry amounted to 1,000/. a year, and there were upwards of 3,000 Protestants in each of the two parishes of which it was composed, and there was no resident incumbent. With regard to the Deanery of Dromore, the Rev. Holt Waring had been recently appointed to that deanery. The Noble Lord had stated that that was an appointment without any emolument ; but he thought the Noble Lord must be mistaken. 'The deanery consisted of two parishes, 15 miles by nine in extent, and containing a large population of Protestants. The tithes at the time of the Ecclesiastical inquiry, after paying all expenses, left a clear profit for the Dean of Dromore of 2501. Therefore, he thought that the Noble Lord must have been misinformed when he stated that the office of the Dean of Dromore was one without emolument. He had, ut least, prima facia grounds for believing that the deanery was not now without emoluments• attached to it. With respect to the propriety of the selection, he would appeal to the authority of the Government itself. He then quoted the letter written by Sir Robert Peel, in September, 1841, to the Lord-Lieute nant of Ireland, stating that in his distribution of the Church patronage in Ireland he was to be guided by the merits, worth, and professional abilities of the candi dates. This letter transferred all the responsibility of such appointments from the Government in Downing-street to the Irish Government. Then, who was the gentleman selected to fill this appointment—to a dignity which was next to that of a bishop ? He would quote to their Lordships extracts of evidence which was given before their Lordships in 1825. In that year, at the suggestion of Lord Liverpool and the Marquis of Wellesley, one of the most serious inquiries that was ever undertaken with respect to Ireland was commenced. In the evidence of one individual, taken before that Committee, there was a recommendation to their Lordships to repeal the Act of 1793, and to take the franchise from the Roman Catholics. He said that this might conduce towards the tranquillity of tke country, as it would give confidence and satisfaction to the Protestants of Ireland. He said it would make the Protestants better, and the Catholics no worse.—(Hear, hear.) The next question put to him was, on what grounds he considered the Roman Catholics were always found in opposition to the Government ? His answer was, their almost universally being bound by oaths of a treasonable nature, and their having been convicted of acting up to those oaths in many instances in which they had been tried ? And who was the individual who gave this evidence? Why, the Rev. Holt Waring, whom the Government had themselves selected to be appointed to the Deanery of Dromore. In the Orange documents, presented to the Committees of 1833 and 1834, the Rev. Mr, Dolt Waring was again found, under the name of Grond Chaplain to the Orange Socieiy, the Orange lodge hav ing been dissolved. At the present moment, he under stood there were attempts making in the north of Ire land to reconstruct the Orange lodges. He, therefore, wished to know whether the appointment was one without emoluments, and on what grounds the Government had made the appointment? If men of that description were made the objects of the distribution of Church patronage in Ireland, were not the principles of Sir R. Peel's letter entirely de parted from? He concluded by moving for copies of the orders for appointing the present Dean of Dromore, a return of the parishes constituting the deanery, and a copy of any order subsequently issued affecting the re venues of the deanery, and showing the exact amount of them at that moment. The Earl of RIPON said he should not oppose the motion, of the. Noble Lord; but he was mistaken with respect to one or two material facts on which he had relied. By the Act of 1834, a power was given to the Church Commissioners to suspend appointments to deaneries, but by a subsequent Act those suspensions could be removed by the sanction of the Lord-Lieu-. tenant in council only, on condition, however, that all the revenues should be severed from them. -The Deanery of Dromore was so suspended, and the suspension was, according to the Act, subsequently removed, but the revenues were severed from it, and dis tributed among the six vicarages forming the deanery. The Noble Lord read extracts from the speech of Mr. Holt Waring before a Committe, given in 1825, nine teen years ago. His Noble Friend had an accurate memory, and seemed to have a scrutinising eye. He (Earl of Ripon) bad not the slightest remembrance of such evidence having been given ; and even though those opinions had been given in a very solemn manner, they should not be scrutinised with too much minuteness. It was not many who could stand the test of such minute consistency. He thought it was rather ungenerous to re vive those forgotten transactions, in order to bring a deserving individual into. odium. Allusion had been 'made to Parliamentary interest having been used in the appointment, but the fact was, Parliamentary interest had nothing to do with it. What it was that induced the Lord-Lieutenant to make the appointment was the fact that a memorial had been presented from several most influential individuals to the Lords Justices in favour of Mr. Waring. This gentleman was recom mended to fill the deanery because he was the oldest beneficed clergyman in the diocese. The Bishop at once confirmed this appointment. Be thought that some ob servations which had been made regarding the character of Mr. Waring, were not just or well founded. The Duke of WELLINGTON—Besides, he resided in the neighbourhood. Earl of RIPON—Yes, that is so. Very few could,be found to fill the deanery. If he were not misformed the Lord-Lieutenant who preceded his Noble Relative had offered the appointment to a clergyman, who de clined it on the ground of its being so profitless. He readily admitted that the conduct of this gentleman had at one time been evidently enthusiastic and full of pre judice, but when the' resolution of the House of Com mons regarding the Orange lodges had been made known to the country, he exerted his influence to the utmost to bring the members of the Orange body into compliance with the law. The Marquis of NORMANBY said, that although the profits of the deanery were•not very great, the labours were exceedingly trifling. In fact, it was almost a sinecure. The Noble Earl spoke of persons changing their opinions in the course of nineteen years.— (Hear, hear.) Some did and some did not change them. He had stated a very strong objection to the appointment of Mr. Holt Waring a few nights ago— that objection he repeated. Mr. Waring had attended a public meeting, at the head of a large body of men. The object of that meeting was not as stated by his Noble Friend, to'preserve the union, but, by a demonstration of physical force, to overawe the Executive Government of the country. It was but one of the many clerical ap pointments made by the present Government since their return to office which had given grave and just offence to the great body of the Catholic community. The dig- . nities and honours of the Church had been given to none but the most violent partizans.—(lronical cries of " Hear, hear," from the Ministerial benches.) While all the Church patronage was bestpwed in that manner, it was impossible to make the Roman Catholic population be lieve that the Government were sincere in the profes sions of impartiality which they had made. The Noble Earl (Roden) who had been Grand Master of the Orange lodges, and whose conduct had been precisely similar to that of Mr. Holt Waring, had not been ap pointed to the Lord-Lieutenancy of Ireland, yet there would have been the same consistency in such an ap pointment as that of Mr. Holt Waring to the deanery of Dromore. Lord WIIARNCLIFFE—It would have been better if the Noble Lord had refrained from raking up matters which bad occurred 20 or 25 years ago. He thought that, especially at the present time, „it was better to forget these things. Mr. Holt Waring had submitted respect fully to the resolution of the Douse of Commons. and had acted in the spirit of that resolution. With re spect to the charges made against the present Govern ment, regarding Church appointments in Ireland, they had not made one they were ashamed of, or which they were not prepared to justify. Lord CAMPBELL observed that the Noble Earl had stated that Mr. Holt Waring was appointed at a time when there was no agitation in Ireland. Earl of RIPON—I did not say so. Lord CAMPBELL—You said, when there was little agitation in Ireland. Earl of RIPON—What I said was Ldfd CAMPBELL—I beg the Noble Earl's pardon ; he certainly did say that the appointment had been made at a time when there was little agitation. However, I shall be very happy to hear the Noble Earl's expla nation. Earl of RIPON—Oh, no I The Noble Lord may say what he likes—l will not interrupt him. Lord CAMPBELL was sorry if he had misunderstood the Noble Earl. The Noble Lord had attempted to defend the Irish Church appointments, but the fact was, those appointments had been very much calculated to give offence to the Roman Catholic population of Ireland. The policy of the Government, and the manner in which it exercised its patronage, had been one of the causes of the present lamentable agitation and excitement in Ire land.—(Laughter from the Ministerial benches.) Mr. Holt Waring, since the year 1825, had expressed senti ments against the Roman Catholics as a body of a most offensive character. He (Lord Campbell) did not deny that in 1836 he had done his best to discourage the Orange lodges. So far so well ; but that did not give any ground for supposing that he had changed his opinions with regard to the Catholics—that he respected their rights more than he had previously done—or that lie was willing to live in peace and kindness with them. There was no evidence that his opinions or his views had been altered ; and he (Lord Campbell) still thought his appointment highly censurable, and that the public r. as under oblig ation to his Noble Friend behind him for bringing th matter under the attention of the House. The Duke of WELLLINGTON would just recal to the 1-1 on. and Learned Lord's recollection that r hich had been stated by a friend of his, but which the Noble and Learned Lord seemed wholly to have forgotten. And that was, that this gentleman was recommended for appointment to the office he now held, The chap ter of Dromore had petitioned for an extension to their body, and the Lord; tJustices, in compliance with that petition,had given them the advantage of a dean to their body. There had been a petition for this addition to that clerical body, and that clerical body itself had re commended Mr, Holt Waring, and Solicited hip nomina tion to it. This had all been left out of the case, So ooessary was it t 9 tau down the Reverend Gentleman for what he had said nineteen years ago, that those lit tle but essential facts werc'entirely left cut of their con- 1 sideration by the Noble Lords opposite. The Marquis of WESTMEATH said, it was the ob ject of the Noble Lords. opposite. to get up, if,they could, a complication of grievances in Ireland, in order to party effect out of doors. In -this - instance he was " ' far from being astonished at what had taken place, :zee* from what quarter the proceedings had come. But he begged to tell the Noble Lords opposite, that these things were most injurious to the peace of fire-sides in Ireland. It was most injurious to the peace and safety of families, that' all these appointments of the Government should be held up in this invidious manner. What could be more unfair than to allude to what had taken place four years before Catholic emancipation, for the purpose of calling down public odium upon an individual ? Nothing but the most un handsome feeling could have suggested to take up what had been said previous to the passing of that measure. When that Bill passed into a law they had entered upon a new era, and from that era Noble Lords ought rather to judge the acts of individuals than before it. The Noble and Learned Lord Campbell had said that the appointment of Mr. Holt Waring . had been con sidered by the Roman Catholics as an insult, and that it had been a great cause in the pro Motion of the cry for repeal. Now he (Lord Westmeath) had read every word that had been published in the newspapers con. cerning the proceedings of the Repeal Association, and he declared he had never seen the Rev. Dean's name ever mentioned in them.. But in what position did the Noble Lord (Monteagle) stand, who was then so ready to attack others ? What was his position, he asked, in respect of the public purse ? Who was there that could not remember that some time ago there was an old man, who held a patent office, with a salary of 2,000 i a year, and that, old as he was, the Noble Lord was afraid he would outlive the tottering Administra tion with which the Noble Lord was so long connected ? What happened then ? This old gentleman was pensioned off, in order that that Noble Lord might succeed to that patent office before that miserable Government was driven from power. Those were facts ; and he could not help telling the Noble Lord that, in his opinion, the two words, Holt Waring," looked as well attached , to this underhand deanery, as ever did those of " Spring Rice" to a pen sioned peerage.—(At the conclusion of thesewords there were cries of " Order, order ;" and the Duke of Rich mond was seen to go round to the bench were the Earl of Westmeath sat, and to -enter into conversation with that Noble Lord.) Lord MONTEAGLE said he should not say one word on the taste which had been displayed by the Noble Earl who had last spoken, nor make any personal observation in reply to him. Ile should merely say that he treated with the most utter unconcern—not to use any harsher or less Parliamentary term—what hadbeen uttered by that Noble Lord against himself. He should not have brought forward his present motion if he had not thought it his duty to do so. Before giving notice of it he had carefully looked over the rules laid down by Sir Robert Peel himself, to regulate his conductwith re gard to Church appointments, and he had compared the principle therein enunciated with the appointment of this Reverend Gentleman. The principle and the conduct were so incongruous that he considered it his duty to notice the matter. And in doing so, his object had not been to say anything adverse to that Reverend Gentle man, but to get a justification from the Government for their conduct. He, for one, did not regret having made the motion. The Duke of RICHMOND said he did not rise to speak on the subject, but to offer a suggestion on an expression or two which in the heat of debate had un fortunately fallen from a Noble Marquis on his right. From that Noble Marquis expressions had fallen in the heat of debate which certainly partook of a per sonal character, and which all must regret the use of.—(Hear, hear.) Latterly some occurrences of a similar nature had taken place in that House, which he was greatly afraid would give reason to the public to say that there was not the dignity and dedorum which ought ever to characterise their Lordships' proceedings.— (Hear, hear.) He asked how could the country look up to them with respect if they did not try to keep their tempers, and to carry on their proceedings with mutual forbearance and decorum?—(Hear, hear.) He really should recommend the Noble Earl to say, that in the heat of debate he had used remarks of a personal nature, which he regretted to have done.—(llear, hear.) The Marquis of WESTMEATH said, that having been called upon by the Noble Duke (Richmond) in the handsome way which he had been, he begged to say he had no desire to show any disorderly feeling in the con duct of the business of that House. He certainly did feel very much as to the mischief caused in Irelsnd to the peace and safety of families by the constant discus sions on the subjects brought under their noticeby Noble Lords opposite. Following, however, the advice so kindly. tendered to him by the Noble Duke (Richmond), he had no objection to state his regret, that, in speaking on the matter before the House, he had exceeded the bounds of fair discussion, and that what had fallen from him he re gretted. The motion was then withdrawn by leave, and the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 22. STATE OF IRELAND—ADJOURNED DEBATE. Mr. GREGORY said the Hon. Member for Edin burgh had made use of the expression that Ireland was always combustible, although not always on fi re . He could have wished that the Hon. Gentleman had re flected upon that • sentiment, for he (Mr. Gregson) had never heard a speech in that House which was more Calculated to effect that combustion of which the Hon.. Member had spoken, than the speech of the Hon. Gentle man himself.---(Cheers.) That speech was a mere re suscitation of all the bitter wrongs under which Ireland had ever suffered. These wrongs had now passed away, and therefore no good could result from any attempt to call back the recollection of them.—(Cheers.) The - Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down had commented upon the conduct of the Irish Attorney-General in alluding to Mr. M'Grath. He (Mr.. Gregory) did not believe that his Hon. and Learned Friend meant to attach any stigma to the name of Mr. M‘Grath. His Hon. and Learned Friend (Mr. haw) had also repudiated any such inten tion. What those Hon. and Learned Gentlemen had said was, that a strong impression existed in Dublin that blame was not to be attached to the law officers of the Crown, but to those persons who had obtained access to the office of Mr. M'tlrath. Allusion had been made in the course of this debate to the state of the elective franchise in Ireland. It had been stated that the re restriction of the franchise in Ireland was owing to an unwillingness on the part of the landlords to grant leases. This was not the east The reason was an un willingness on the part of the Irish peasants to register themselves, on account of the power that might be brought against them in the exercise of that franchise by the Irish priesthood. The Noble Lord, the Mem ber for London, in alluding ,to the state of th e I r i s h franchise, had stated, on the authority of Mr. O'Connell, that the registered electors of Yorkshire were equal in number to the registered electors of all the counties in „Ireland. Now he had not supposed that in the eyes of the Noble Lord population was the only basis of repre sentation. If it were the only basis, why did they not propose to alter the constituencies of England.—(Hear, hear.) Why should Tamworth • with its 300 electors have the same weight and influence in that House as Birmingham, with-its 5,000, or Manchester with its 6,000.-(Hear, hear.) Why did he not adopt the Chartist propbsition, and divide England at once into 20,000 districts ?—(Hear, hear.) He would remind the . House of the words of the Noble Lord the Member for Sunderland, who said that if they increased the franchise in Ireland they would only be putting weapons in the hands of those who were the friends of Ireland. In his (Mr. Gregory's) opinion by increasing the constituences of Ireland they would be putting weapons not into the hands of those who were the friends of Ireland, but of those who had established and were continuing agitation in that country.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to the . Established Church, another monster grievance— (Hear, hear, from the Opposition) he was happy eto say that had received two assurances in that House which convinced him that that Establish ment was not destined to be-Overthrown. He referred to the assurances of the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies, and of the Right Hon. Baronet, declaring that it was their intention to abide by that institution. --(Cheers.) He believed that were this question left to the eircinsiiri legislation of Hon. Members opposite . they would find considerable difficulty in settling it. He could not but refer to the statement, that the Catholic religion had been stigmatised as false and idolatrous. He begged to say, in reference to that subject, that having been entrusted with a petition, containing lan guage of that description, and having forwarded it to the . Right Hon. Baronet, the Secretary of State for the Home Department, for presentation, he received. a few days afterwards, a letter from the Right Hon. Baronet, stating that he did not consider it his duty to pre sent her Majesty with an address which breathed sentiments so disrespectful to a large portion of her subjects.—(Hear, hear, from the Ministerial benches.) It had been stated that the present Government in. Ire land was a government by the sword. If it were so, let the blame rest with those to whom this state of things was attributed. The idea of repeal was not a mere ab stract love of having ;a Parliament on College-green. It was no vague speculation of a band of enthusiasts ; but it was the focus in which centered all the wrongs and grievances of Ireland. It was the murmur of the Catholic priests against the Eitablished Church, which they were determined to overthrow. It was the com plaint of the poor man, who was driven to that extremity that any change was hailed as an advantage to him. They might rest assured that the agitation would con tinue, and the House might depend on it that the priests and agitators of that country would continue to demand from them what they could not conscientiously grant, and what would be indignantly refused by the Protest ants and Dissenters of England. Mr. BELLEW said he considered that in the late State trials the Roman Catholics of Ireland had been most unfairly treated, and also that the traversers had been unfairly dealt with. He considered that the Irish franchise was most unsatisfactory. It should be founded, he thought, upon some test of rating or valuation, which would place it quite out of the power of either of the to o great parties into which the country was divided. He certainly could not speak very flatteringly of the course pursued by the Noble Lord who had brought in the Irish Registration Bill, or say that it was likely to increase the respect in which the character of a states man should be held. There was one thing he felt bound to acknowledge, that he considered the administration of justice at present, was superior to that of the period during which the' Right Hon. Baronet opposite (Sir It. Peel) was in power in 1831. The appointment of stipen diary magistrates had conferred incalculable bel)Vfits upon Ireland, and he cared not whether they were ap pointed by a Whig pr a 'f,:wy Admini§tmtiOo, for they were far bettop than the unpaid magistrates, no matter what infight be their politics, inasmuch as they were obliged to render an account of their conduct to a supe rior o=4 Ile certainly, ae a Catholic gentleman, wl sa that he was not under manligations PI th ou a c d outte y :y shown by the Noble Lord y ob , the Secrets*? for the ....o.on w .es, hen lie was, alluding to the oath presented to" be taken by ' thß oman Caoli S ; l e The Government might depend that the agitation _ the repeal of the union would never cease until soils, alteration was made with respect to the Establishes Church in Irelainl. They ought to endeavour to toe!t_ such an arrangement as would give satisfaction to tn_ three great denominations in Ireland. Until this e" accomplished agitation in Ireland would continue. rr/ one seemed to agree that some alteration in the Po, testant Establishment in Ireland was necessary> And. no attempt was made to effect an alteration. 1 1 ,e i t glad that the Landlord and Tenant Commission had appointed, because he felt that it would turn Pu.wr attention to the subject. He believed that the Coutoe e?: sion had been appointed by th e Right Hon. Barone First Lord of the Treasury in good faith, with the inte n a tion of improving the relations between landlord 1111 4 tenant. The present system was fraught with the tot frightful evils. Most of those evils were attributed tut the landlords; but this was . not just, for he knew t ear there were many landlords who would improve t'!„,`" e estates if they possessed the means. At the same he knew that there were many landlords who did posit the means, but who did not possess the will. lie th c4 h the relation Qf 'landlord and tenant and the Chlll:c_, question were the two most important questions with they spect to Ireland that the Government could turn attention to. Mr. LIDDELL rose to expresi his regret et w ta b i l6 had fallen from the Hon. Member for Northei*i to shire (Mr. S. O'Brien) the other night, with re s p e ct rd the conduct of the Noble Marquis who was the latel b , Lieutenant of Ireland. He was sorry to renal t ° bbd Hon. Gentleman's recollection the words which he ob , used. The Hon. Gentleman, in the cou rse of his servations, had said that the Noble Marquis duril ) g or administration in Ireland had made theatrical stud 'a, iS tatious displays. lie (Mr. Liddell) was prepare d . '- mit that in the progress of the Noble Marquis, the country, at the time the prisonerS were without the intervention of judge or jury, he diu, some indiscretion. He (Mr. Liddell), however, 7 4 g that the o ffi ce of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland had 11- 0 0 been filled with more becoming dignity, or wi r tuZblo satisfaction to the Irish people, than it was by tue„% s of Marquis.—(Cheers.) He might say that the au,j, o o the of fi ce had been performed with dignity / 11 • The ostentation, or with aftability without affectation. To private charities of the Noble Marquif and for iS their were'ibnly limited by the opportuniti e s a fforded ot exhibition. Many were the pers o n s in the fe n f the of Ireland who had felt the beneficial effects cl- l ia9 Noble Marquis's kindness. —(Cheers.) ThO i c s i ; er f, of those whom the Noble Marquis had found in 14 ' 6 1 ; but left in freedom, were ready to bless the name 0 t tv Marquis of Normanby.—(Cheers.) With respe c t, his his appointments, they had given general satier'iir Those appointments were always most carefulg p osa sidered by_ the Noble Marquis, and were always felt felt of with the greatest propriety. . He (Mr. I,idcleior bound to say thus much in vindication of the Nobled quis, for he was unwilling that his defence eil l oule* tirely rest with gentlemen on the other s ide of the " Agsentem qui rodit amicum ; Qui non defendit, alio - culpante ; solutos Qui captat risus hominum, famamque dicacis Fingere qui non visa potent ; commissa tacere ste t Qui nequit; hic niger est; hum tu, Romane, 0 , 11 ,01 4 With respect to the question before the House, ef.. Ae gb! merely say, that any accusation that .had • been b i g'' by Hon. Gentlemen on the other side of the 1 1 °7 Go; been fully met, and he was happy to say that t vernment had received as full a vindication as the , " I seir desire ; and he had to congratulate thein triumph in , argument, as he had no doubt he seL,ioe. have to congratulate them on the result of the oi" Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN could assure the so Gentleman that, in the remarks he had 1 : 11 had meant nothing discourteous' to the late Vga t ali a l . P ' tenant of Ireland. He could assure the H. to esr, man, that he had never intended f o r a momen t o f tb." • the slightest reflection upon the private eharaeter.4 • Noble Lord. What he had said was, and he ties' hered to the opinion, that, in letti ng o ut the 1 3 ' . in Ireland, the Noble Marquis h a d p roc eeded in 'i c e. trical manner, as though he wished to raakeaen e o f IV . Mr. HUME thought that the administratio n t isfo c : . Noble Marquis in Ireland had give n perfect '! ti e tl o ,' tion to all parties, and he was sure that in he should be borne out by the vi hole people ° c oo bf He wished he could say the sam e thing of t t he ‘! e : . whom he had been succeeded. With re spect to t pig , - fence set up by the Irish Attorney-General las. a , he must say that he had utterly failed in convief t te rd' (Mr. Hume) that the course whi c h he had Sitri e tel l3 , free from blame. Mr. O'Connell had a right that the jury panel should be quashed. It was i t " ogee tI • to say that if it had been so quashed, all other ea o' o , be tried during the ye ar would have been affected., JO) Mr. O'Connell to be punished because an G enf been committed whi c h wou ld a ff ect ot h er trials?„ G OO; Hume) considered th a t t h e H on. and Lea ararr did man had utterly f a il e d i n hi s exp l anat i on . D e b $ tv wish to revive the recollection of past grievanee;oest; he more particularly wished to allude to were th, i e ?wie* It might be said that he was not an Irishman. Il e wel l/. upon the people of that country as Ins fellow -s t s t Ireland was a part of th e B r iti s h em pi re , and filsepst; portant part. He had al w ay s oppose d ul i - tion, because he considered that if the , was fairly carried o u t, I re l an d mus t b e benefite d b e ta; The poor country was invariably the better hl scot' connected with the rich one. What advanteg e n %e.t; • land had gained by the union I I nca l cu l a bl e &do? • and, if Ireland had been treated O n th e same Pri?cifa Scotland she would b e now h appy an d &aw e fro l (Hear ; hear.) The Hon. Gentl eman th en quoted D id ` the speech of King Geo rge th e Thi r d a t the: o P e go iel Parliament, in the year 1800, "i n w hich his the most cordially congratulated the House nil, c ow. vancement of that measure, and said that not hlee d be so well calculated to increase the prosrri t l e ple b v ; empire, and his Majesty's speech led the Irrsh.roon expect that they would from the time of the'„,ioeo, participators in all the in s tit u ti ons , rights, P" • ill and advantages of this country.--(Hear, hear.t;ue Pitt said that the Irish people should P r o st'g) every solid benefit an d every eminent a d toter, that could result from so important a unien.;?eitibebv. The Hon. Member for D u bli n sa id, that Ha' 'bout t o t on that side of the H ouse were a l wa y s talkinga. ot es o , grievances of Ireland, a n d th a t even if the eoL ieti Church Establishment „were destroyed i n ° tit Ile Oa there would-be still coniplaints of grievances . be t il Hume) considered that the Irish people not 0 41 1 0 O tto right to complain, but that they ought to corall v of . 0 . every grievance was redressed. The mar ri people of Scotland had the Church of t f t he' The people of En g l an d h a d th e Church Ch ° „ tc ss but the lri4l reople were obliged to support t t, r otesilt of the minority. It was urged that the ho t "' e a ! Church had been guarranteed by the noi °ll ,4 itt raa te ;pr.f should a Church be supported, however ~ait sve!"44 which did not bring peace among mankind d with t. i possible that the Irish p eo pl e mild be sati sfied cb Church as it stood. It was as t on ishing ";.; e0 Gentlemen opposite found the document s e t j v j o e, they quoted---they always seemed to set, ' ll° of meats read upon that side of t ; e ssioi t r but ls3 4. he would n to ow tha q t u ce o n te sus, from the ' clo of t h e popula tl 6 - ,4 g7;q 0 , land was as follows:—Roman Catholics, ,byter t o o, Protestant Episcopalians, 752,000 ; , Fa t h e r " c 4 111. ),0 41 642,000 ; Protestant Dissenters of ah ,1, 10 1 e s, 121,000. The Established Church in Ire . ' b yter'! from the public money, 806,000 L ; the r Y h r u e r s oh l 35,000!. ; whilst the Roman Catholic ewer only 8,9281., the miserable grant to MO .° i t wes : w er was many years_ opposed.—(Hear, hear.) b e d Tod this was a sort a question ; he (dr. Ile we ts , ths e s' treated it Ile had been always of the wa -c the i vocated those rights for Ireland to whiel t , s w hen co. titled, but had opposed the Whigs in 18' L et the #e for brought forward measures of coercion. iegi slll 'd 0 11 vernment treat Ireland properly--let there ro t! or f her in the same manner and on the same P • T e t he for Scotland, and th ere wou ld b e no agitatint were_ t f, was, the Tories who refused Ireland its rib s that agitators, and the Premier, as the head o ut the and was the prinie agitator—(A laugh)- -- hu t /re bind , ef er: once more respect e d, do „justice to for _vte the occupation of. Othello was gon e ,: n be au The first measure which he thought ough_t lof * by the Government would be the withdra w s i o ess ° f 4 0c1 1 Lieutenant from Ireland, and have the bu the Se b ol country transacted in the same ma n ner ,7 30 be affairs were, in . London. In 1823 and wu d la brought a motion to that effect before the f_-"" vote io long discussion ensued and 115 Meer°orgsaverne,.... favour of the measure. Let not Ireland he._, t he t -w e lf the same way as Canada, but let her enJuLi hf" constitution and right, and be able te,, ii 6v ; a ffe tr ri o it of the same talent in the administration or b soon er, a d- England had. - For his part he would °tw o I' tb i° to a Secretary of State in England than abo se froo Lieutenant, for it was the nature of man; stan ce which he was delegated to exercise at a un ion b o to s the fountain head. Ireland had had a t „„ e use own boards of customs and other Ire": was tse ihe wha. et 4 they were all swept away now, and marl 18 5 ' 1 11 . on e se tottkr#ll._. of a Lord-Lieutenant ? Be knew thai.. b . ) for , 6 peers would bitterly oppose this. 7 — <A. - l apille , when Mr. O'Connell brought forward of of t he A ir« Select Committee to inquire into rePet as met 1 00 4 and its probable effects if carried, Ir.; an angiu- r os. ee e S x p p ri r n e g ssi ß ve ice of (no th w e L i o n lM tio o n nte o are t ) h : rear 01 4. taro the union, but at the same .es been d fre would ask had those grievan ces „ o de 1 - ge the grievances of Ireland. He On the 2d of February a petition was Pr y o f eif i l e a , meeting in Dublin, demanding an eci tta o / t olliee ° ,.erch had bee CP religious rights, but that pet ition , , the e v ert he (Mr. Hume) had his will, he shoincL , lr ad al low property to the education of the people , h i s OW° st o* tip Air. man to pay his own clergyman as he in t he , ton Ireland was garrisoned by tro_Ps_ rto , I ataf t two manner as Algeria was by the Frenc h with ulc countries. What they should do cLesor r n cumbents would be 'to put them upon WU ilace the cra to was sorry to see so great a similaritybet_w_eeni!e-setjl!,s4dia' Fund during their byes, and ak one to be aPP oe e s t property in the-hands of Governmen t. bould the education of thy people. This the e l ot ie once, The next step should be to rein. ,_ t he ail' ‘.0 1,e forces, send the navy into dock, and aPP?,,_ eu ts of a million and a half saved in these depalraim Ir e., diffusion of' education. hut would th , ed' o r o f tha the evil effects of a military neeut` t cou ntr.Y Everything which had been done o in I 1 wi th ijii llo e ' present Government had been atten dednter _ d t he 0 t he (At this moment Sir Robert Peel e t.. be and the Hon. Member for Montrose ie cau l rightly ushtli a o t attributed b taerdon t e o t) th a e nd ßi s h l ri ll os o e n. re rii , patv is " bie ,e a t e r s h o ° . l; ,.. r just came in, and who was respon better things si ble lor 11 , was Qk Aiiin kb& Berm& when be firat (Hear.) He (folirri.f Hume)h e were h n ad ot h r o e p s e p d o ns_ atice,froo7