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then, though he must confess that he thought there was much to be said in favour of the motion of the Hon. Member for Birmingham, and there was certainly much plausibility on the face of it, yet he felt compelled to divide against him on the present occasion.—(Divide, divide.) Mr. SPOONER said he would say but one word in reply to what had fallen from the lion. Member for Cockermouth. He must say that for the sake of showing how fallacious was the supposition that if an insurance were discontinued the office would return the premium. The office would, it is true, return something, but on most lives, and especially in young lives, the whole amount returned would not be more than two per cent. There was, therefore, nothing in that. He thought that the House was bound to act conscientiously, and if they could not do all the good they desired, they at least might do some good. There was a peculiarity about the income-tax. It interfered with the whole arrangement of a man's expenditure. He would suppose the case of a man enjoying a cer tain amount of income by which he ranged all his ex penses. Among other portions of his expenditure he had insured his life; then comes the property-tax—this was a charge which he could not avoid, and there was the danger of losing, if not the actual loss, of the only provision which he was able to make for his family, and, therefore, he thought that a difference ought to be made to meet the case. The House then divided, when there appeared — For the Amendment... 26 Against it Majority against the Amendment. —6l Mr. WAKLEY said, that in bringing forward the motion of which he had given notice, he thought it necessary to explain that his object was not to inter fere in any way with the collection of the tax upon property and income. The Bill before the House was entitled, " A Bill for Levying a Tax upon Pro perty and Income," but unless the clause of which he had given notice was introduced, it might be called " A Bill for levying a Tax on Losses. His (Mr. Wakley's) object was to relieve those parties who were assessed to the whole amount of their nominal income, and who yet suffered serious losses from the insolvency or bankruptcy of tenants, or, as in many cases, from their absconding, and he thought that he might, with great reason, ask the House to remit the charge for income-tax on the amount of those losses, when they had been fully proved be fore the oificial parties whose duty it was to make the assessment. Many parties complained that this tax was a great evil, and he (Mr. Wakley) was ready to allow that it was so, but still he thought that any evil was endurable which was to continue only a limited period. And when two parties who were complaining to him of its oppression, how peculiarly it fell upon their cases, he was in the habit of telling them that it would not hurt them much, as it was to continue only for :three years. He would therefore tell the Right Hon. Baronet that the public expected this tax to cease at the end of three years. lie had voted for the imposition of this tax, and under the circumstances he thought that it was a wise pro position, but he did not believe that tax could be con tinued in its present shape at the end of that time. There was already great discontent out of doors in consequence of it, and if the same disposition to reject any modification of the tax remained that had already been witnessed, he would say that it would be impos sible to continue the tax at the end of the time for which it was now voted ; but he believed that the amendment which he had to submit was necessary to render the tax palatable. He was ready to grant that they could not tax property without taxing income, but he at the same time conceived that in order to avoid the dishonest influence of the tax it was neces sary to introduce a clause te save the imposition upon losses. He did not wish merely to avoid the tax up•m assumed losses, but on those which were capable of proof. He didjnot ask that the Commissioners should have power—he did not say that they should at once remit—but that they should have the power of remitting the tax in all cases when it was proved that losses had been incurred by the causes which he had assigned. He would, therefore, beg to move that a clause be inserted in the Bill to the following effect : " And whereas doubts have arisen whether the len Hord for the time being of premises charged antler Schedule (A) is liable to the duty charged on the i I premises under the said last-meetioned Schedule, whether the said landlord shall or shall not have re • seised the rent in respect of the said premises ; be i' enacted, and it is hereby enacted, that it shall and may be lawful for the Commissioners for General Purposes, acting for the district in which the said premises are situated, on appeal to them made for that purpese by the said landlord or his agent, to dis charge the said assessment, or such portion thereof, st the rate of seven pence in the pound, on such amount of rent as the sail landlord shall prove to their satisfaction he has wholly lost, and has not been eble and is not likely to recover in respect of the sail premises, and on which he would have been liable to ;ay the said duty, by way of deduction, in case the ( ccupier for the time being or any other person for Lim had paid the said rent." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he ought to thank the Hon. Member for Fins bury for having so well answered the Hon. Member for Cambrllge, but with respect to the amendment which the Hon. Member had submitted to the House he felt that he must be as hard upon that as he had been on other cases. He felt that certainly there was considerable reason, in a prirnd facie aspect, in what had fallen from the Hon. Member. But there was one objection which, in his opinion, was fatal to it. It should be recollected that the landlord pos sessed peculiar powers over the tenant, and if he lost his rent in the first instance he would very possibly have the power of recovering it afterwards. It was not to be supposed that if a tenant were in debt for rent he could at once remove from the place that he occupied; and if he did so it was not likely that he could remove his goods along with him (Hear, hear.) Were this amendment to he carried, and were the Commissioners invested with the power to allow the reduction of the tax, it would lead to very great inconvenience. If a landlord were, indeed, to suffer such a loss, which was not, as he before said, very likely, he would have to blame his own folly in not having made either a proper agreement with his tenant, or a proper reference respecting his character. He thought that under these circumstances the land lord should pay the tax in the first instance, and take his chance of recovering the loss. Mr. WAKLEY said that he felt the necessity of this clause very strongly, and was very sorry that the Act of the last three years, had been without some such clause as he had proposed—yet he would not divide the House upon it, for after the bad success of the attempts of the Hon. Member for Birmingham (Mr. Spooner) he saw that it was fruitless to divide, unless he had the sanction of the Government, and he was unwilling to give unnecessary trouble. But he must say that he bitterly regretted the opposition which was given by her Majesty's Ministers to any attempt to alter the income-tax for three years. He felt bound to assert that, though this tax was contrary to the prejudices and en tirely opposed to the feelings of the people of England, they had borne its imposition with an admirable patience, and they had exhibited a temper under its infliction beyond all praise.—(Hear.) For their sakes, therefore, he trusted that the same opposition would not be continued to altering this o•lious tax. Under the circumstances, and with the example of the fate of the amendments of the Hon. Member for Birmingham, he begged to withdraw his motion. Mr. CURTEIS said that he trusted that the notice that had just been taken of the feelings of the people, and of their dislike to this tar, would not be lost on her Majesty's Government. The motion was then withdrawn. FOSTFI said that he had no hostility to the tax himself, and, generally speaking, in his opinion it was a good tax, and he believed that the opposition was not to the tax itself so much as to its inquisitorial nature. His amendment, if adopted, would tend to remove tbis objection, and he therefore hoped the Government would net oppose it. All who were engaged in trade or manufactures were assessed in Schedule D ; but if they wished to keep their affairs private, they were at liberty, on appli cation, to make their returns under Schedule C. His amendment was to this effect : " And whereas all persons, corporations, and com panies carrying on any mines of lead, tin, coal, copper, iron, or other undertakings of the like nature, are now chargeable under schedule (A); be it enacted, that from and after the passing of this Act the said persons, corporations, or companies so chargeable in respect of all such undertakings shall be assessed for the same under schedule (D), in like manner, and with the same option of privacy, as other perscns, corporations, or companies chargeable under that schedule." He could not understand on what grounds any opposition could be offered to his amendment. Large mining establishment s were generally—he must say always—situated in remote districts. In towns a man was not so much under the supervision of his neighbours, and his return was not so likely to be canvassed by those about him. Now, for min ing establishments, the introduction of this amend ine would relieve the officers of the establishment from a great inconvenience, foe at present they were obliged to disclose the whole of their affairs to the pubic around them. Those were tailors, shoemakers, and people of a similar grade ; and was it right, he would ask, that the affairs of companies of this mag nitude should be laid open to such investigation ? Ills amendment was necessary to make the Bill con si,tent. The measure ought to be so in all and every ore of its parts. As he had said before, he could not understand the reasons, if there were any, for of posing this amendment, and he therefore hoped he sI ould not have a refusal from the Government to wake the alteration he proposed. The amendment was 'then put. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said his chief objection to the amendment was that, when the Bill was introduced in 1842, the miners themselves desired to be placed under schedule A, and the same principle was adopted in all former Bills. He was afraid, therefore, to swerve now from this established rule, or he would have no objection to accede to the amendment of the Hon. Member. Mr. FOSTER said the Right Hon. Gentleman had urged no argument against his proposition. He did not wish to compel miners to claim under schedule D, but to give them the option of doing so. The clause was then read a second time. Sir R. H. INGLIS did not call the attention of her Majesty's Ministers to the motion he had upon the paper with a view of obtaining their concession now, but with a view to obtaining their sanction at some future period to the principle he wished to lay down. If the present were a time of war he would not, for one moment, offer any obstacle to the con tinuation of the measure in its present form, but as they were now at peace with n early all the world, this objection could not be raised. Every day's ex perience convinced him that the tax was not to be limited to three years ; but, on the contrary, it was likely to be made perpetual, and under such circumstances he was desirous to modify the measure in such a way as to make it more en durable. If, therefore, he could not carry his amend ment, he wished to put on record, for the guidance of their successors, an expression of opinion that some at least of the present House of Commons were favourable to his proposal. He believed he had stated, on a former occasion, that numerous instances had come to his knowledge where clerks and others, whose incomes were 1501., had got their employers to reduce their salaries, to enable them to a fade payment of the income-tax. By this means a man, whose salary was 1501. was reduced to 1491., thus saved 31. 10s. a year, He wished, therefore, to save his fellow-countrymen from this temptation to commit fraud, as well as from suffering actual distress, which had in some cases re sulted from the tax. They were told that the revenue would suffer a loss of one million sterling, if the House adopted his proposition. He conceived this sum was considerably overstated, but in order to meet this objection, he had thought it advisable to modify the proWition of which he had given notice, by limiting its operation to those classes who were peculiarly affected by the pre sent tax. Instead, therefore, of the notice which stood on the printed paper, he wished to substitute the following:—" Provided always that the said rates and duties shall not be assessed or taken upon any in come whatever, excepting with respect to the sum by which such income shall exceed 1501." Now this would meet many cases where the tax pressed with severity. For instance, there were in this country 5,489 benefices, varying from 1501. to 500/., who would derive considerable benefit front the introduc tion of such a provision. —(Hear, hear.) He knew what the result of a division would be, but to avoid being taunted by any future Chancellor of the Exche quer that the measure in its present form had been fully sanctioned by the House, he felt called upon to put it to the vote.—(Hear.) Mr. SPOONER seconded the amendment. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the question involved a general principle which could not be settled by the operation of the tax upon one particular class. He thought he should be able to show his Hon. Friend that his proposition was im practicable, and that it would not remove the present facilities for evading the tax. His Hon. Friend said a clerk who had 150/. a year could get his employer to reduce his salary to 1491., and thus evade the tax. But would his Honourable Friend's amendment remove this objection? Could not a man who had an income of 500/. reduce it to 499/. ?—(llear, hear.) Surely, then, the amendment was objectionable in this particular. But his Hon. Friend's proposition was open to other objections. A man might have an income from land, amounting to 500/. in one part of the country, and an interest to the same amount in some railway company in another part of the country, and thus he would have an opportunity of availing himself of his Hon. Friend's amendment in two instances. He might claim to deduct 1501. from his 5001. arising out of land in Yorkshire, and claim the same exemption on his railway interest in Sussex.—(Hear.) Unless, therefore, they introduced some system of combined examination to meet these particular eases, the amend ment would produce no good, and for this reason it was his duty to resist the proposition. After a few words from Sir W. CLAY, The House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment 25 ...._ _ Against it Majority against the amendment —34 On the re-admission of strangers to the gallery, we found Sir W. CLAY addressing the House. He said, that in all direct taxation there was much rudeness, roughness, and unpleasantness mixed up. Ile gave the Right lion. Baronet credit for showing good rea sons against the several amendments that had been proposed, inasmuch as they would all he attended with hardship and inequality. But the Right Hon. Baro net's answers proved that hardship and inequality were inseparable from the tax. There were many theore tical arguments in favour of direct taxation ; but there was this advantage in indirect taxation, that it left every man to a certain degree the master of his taxation. All indirect taxation pressed upon expenses, and many of the assessed taxes pressed wholly on luxuries. But the income-tax was a tax upon prudence ; and he did not agree with the saying that the miser was the fittest person to be taxed. The miser was the greatest benefactor of society.—(A laugh.) It was the miser that carried out all your great improvements.—(Oh, oh, and laughter.) The man who kept a pack of fox hounds was no bene factor of the community. The man who benefited society was he that did not spend his money in luxury, but spared it, and applied his savings to public improvementa. (Cries of " Oh, oh," and " That is not a miser.") He (Mr. Clay) did not wish the tax to be extended to Ireland, but all the arguments against that extension applied to the im position of the tax in this country. lie would not detain the House by offering unavailing opposition, but he could not allow the Bill to pass without enter ing his protest against it. Sir R. PEEL thanked the Hon. Gentleman for the tone in which he had expressed his opinions, and for not persisting in an unavailing opposition, although the Hon. Gentleman had given the Bill his parting malediction.—(A laugh.) He did not think it was a proper time, at this stage of the Bill, to enter into the question of direct and indirect taxa tion. He would only say that much must depend upon the circumstances of the country to be taxed. But he must say that if there were in any country taxes which pressed upon industry, and at the same time a palpable tendency to accumulate ' then pro perty might be directly taxed.—(Hear, hear.) But in a country like the United States, where there was but little accumulation, he thought it might be well to adhere to indirect taxation. He must know all the circumstances of a country before he could give an opinion. But of this he was convinced, that if a tax on property were to be imposed, it should be on income, and not upon accumulated capital. Nothing could be more dangerous than to tax accumulated capital.—(Hear, hear.) It would be a check to that feeling which led men to endure present toil for the sake of future serenity and enjoyment; and he be lieved there was great truth in what Dr. Johnson said, that a man could not be raore innocently employed than in accumulating money.—(A laugh.) Such a tax would derange accumulation, and tend to transfer capital to other countries. At the same time he would confess that he thought the greatest check to the improvident application of the income-tax was the inequality of its operation.—(Hear, hear.) A tax on accumulation would not easily be made productive, as capital would be transferred to other countries. He was not now going into the question as to fixed incomes and floating incomes.—(Hear.) Some Gentlemen had said that they could show how he could raise three or four millions. Very well. But let them be upon those (the Treasury) benches, and let him see how they would propose their taxes— (Laughter.) Other gentlemen asked why was not the tax extended to Ireland ? But why not extend other taxes to Ireland? Why not extend the soap tax, for the first time, to that part of the kingdom, where it was most desirable to encourage the use of soap.—(Laughter.) They were making a great, and, he would say, a bold experiment in their fiscal systein, and the fact was that the country was of opinion that the present was a time when the property of manufacturers, and the condi tion of the working-classes rendered the experiment desirable and practicable.—(Hear, hear.) Those upon whom the income-tax pressed were willing to bear the burthen for the sake of an experiment, hav ing for its object to better the condition of those below them, as it was the earnest desire of the affluent classes to do.—Hear, hear.) Their objec tion to the tax was as great as could be, and the reason of their acquiescence was an honour to them and to the country. He (Sir Robert Peel) would not contemplate the discussion which was likely to arise when the renewal of the tax came again before the House.—(A laugh.) The House would not ex pect him to say now what course he might take upon that future occasion. He had stated already the pre- partitions which were going on in the glass trade.— (Hear.) Suppose, then, the thousands who were now unemployed—and other thousands—should find em ployment ? Suppose the glass manufacture of this country should come into competition with Belgium and Bohemia—might not the couatrv, on the same ground as it now acquiesced in the income-tax, he inclined to try further the application of direct taxa tion, if not exactly in this shape Was it therefore to be expected that he should now pledge himself to the repeal of the tax in three years ?—and he said this without seeking any reserve.—(Hear, hear.) The affluent daises in this country willingly acqui esce:l in the tax, for the sake of an experiment which had for its object the relief of those who most stood E SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY E in need of it—(Hear, hear)—and he could not say what their feeling might be at the end of the term, and upon the issue of the experiment. Mr. HAWES did not deny the claims of the poorer classes to be relieved ; but the Right Hon. Baronet had not done anything to relieve them from the burdens that were most felt by them. The Hon. Baronet had not taken off the taxes upon consump tion, nor those which interrupted trade, and made subsistence difficult. He was not obliged to vote for the income-tax, because it rendered the Minister to be independent of other sources of revenue, and able to keep up the fiscal system thatsupported monopoly. He thought that they ought not to submit to the in come-tax till the burdens on the industry of the country were removed, and till the indirect taxation was placed on a sound basis. With regard to the administration of the tax he bad hears with great pleasure what had fallen from the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) and the Right lion. the Chancellor of the Exchequer on that subject, but believing that the tax was unjust, he could not—though he would not I divide the House again upon it—sit down without joining his lion. Friend in giving it a parting male diction. Mr. J. S. WORTLEY said that the argument of the Hon. Member for Lambeth was, that he would wish to see the Minister in difficulty that he might be compelled to adopt certain measures, forgetting that when a Minister was in difficulties he had recourse to an increase, and not to a diminution of taxation. His Right Hon. Friend had put the grounds of the tax on a proper foundation. The people of the country had not submitted to the tax so patiently from any pre ference of direct over indirect taxation, but because they saw that it enabled the Right Hon. Baronet to make a great experiment with regard to the taxes levied on the people of the country, and afforded him a prospect of lightening the burdens which fell on the more indigent classes of the community. Mr. HAWES explained. Mr. WARD said it appeared to him rather sur prising that no person was going to divide the House, notwithstanding all that had been urged against this tax.—(Hear, hear.) Understanding that the lion. Member for Lambeth intended to divide the House on the present occasion, he came down to vote against him, although he did not expect to see the tax done away with, nor would he entertain any expectation of the kind when his Hon. Friend became Chancellor of the Exchequer.—(Cheers and laughter.) His Hon. Friend talked of just taxation, but where were the elements of just taxation to be found? He (Mr. Ward) acted with a large body in the country, who were known under the name of "Free-traders," and he recognised a broad distinction between free trade principles and those on which the Government acted, but he could see nothing but a question of degree and not of principle between the present Chan cellor of the Exchequer and the would-be Chancellor. —(Cheers and laughter.) He would vote with as great cheerfulness as ever he did with his Hon. Friend, if they recognised the principles which they seemed to like but which they did not espouse. — (Cheers.) lie did not think there was more to be gained on one side than the other.—(Hear, hear.) It was a question of e'egree between the present Go vernment and the future Government, but there was this difference, that the Right Hon. Gentleman op posite (Sir Robert Peel) always did what he said, but his lion. Friend near him said a great deal more but did nothing.—(Ministerial cheers.) They had plenty of pretty schemes from them, but they never went beyond schemes.—Loud Cheers.) They found , that the Right Hon Baronet was able to carry his measures by a happy combination of circumstances, and that was a happy circumstance for the country. He had heard complaints in that House of the budget of the Right Hon. Gentleman, but he did not think it was a fair criterion to apply to that measure that a man gained but 3d. in his fustian or 21d. in his sugar.—(Hear.) He looked to the immense em ployment it would give at home by increasing the ex port trade, and enabling them to compete with foreigners in other countries.—(Cheers.) He believed that their trade would be increased 25' millions in consequence of taking off the duty on the raw mate rial.—(hear, and laughter.) And, notwithstanding all the taunts that had been thrown against him and those with whom he acted, he was not ashamed to ex press himself in favour of the measure of the Right lion. Baronet, and he had come down to the House that evening for the purpose of recording his vote in favour of the income-tax.—(Cheers.) Mr. CURTEIS said, that if he did not divide the House on the present occasion, it was because having recorded his opinion against the measure, and having already divided the House twice upon it, he thought it would be pertinacious o❑ his part, if he were to set up his own opinion against the declared conviction of the House.—(Hear, hear.) His objection to the tax was not that it was a direct tax, but that it was an inquisitorial tax. He was sorry to see that they had made such a bad fight against the income-tax. The Noble Lord the Member for London, under whose leadership he had acted for many years, and for whom he had thegreatest respect, had, he regretted to say, only put one vote on record against the tax — (Hear, hear)—on the motion of the Hon. Member for Liskeard (Mr. Buller.) He was sorry the Noble Lord had not made a better stand against it. For himself, he gave every possible malediction that could be given to the tax.—(Laughter.) Mr. DARI3Y could not agree with the argument of the Hon. Member for Lambeth, for the lion. Gen tleman's argument was, that all the labouring capital of the country should be displaced for the purpose of rendering things cheap ; forgetting that if things were cheap and labour displaced the people would not have the means of buying those cheap things. Sir C. NAPIER said he rose for the purpose of remarking on one great injustice of the income-tax. It appeared that while all the civil officers in Ireland, who were well paid, were exempt from the income tax, the officers of the army and navy, who were most inadequately paid, were obliged to pay the tax. Now that was most unjust. lie knew the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer would reply that their navy all over the world paid the tax, but he begged to remind him that the Governors of their colonies also paid it ; and if that were so, where was the justice in exempting the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and the other high civil functionaries there, from the payment of the tax. He hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would give some explanation on that head. Mr. TRELAWNY supported the motion, and after a short discussion, in which the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER joined, the Bill was then read a third time and passed. SUGAR DUTIES BILL. The Sugar Duties Bill was read a second time, after a short discussion, and ordered to be committed on Friday. The Customs Export Duties Bill was also read a second time and ordered to be committed. 14 JUSTICES' CLERKS. On the proposition that the Justices' Clerks and Clerks of the Peace Bill be read a second time, Mr. T. EGERTON objected to the Bill. General JOHNSTONE' supported the Bill. Mr. DARI3Y hoped, if the Bill passed, the ma chinery would be less complicated than that now pro posed. He was fearful that the expense to the public would be increased by the Bill. Mr. BROTHERTON supported the Bill. After same observations from Mr. DICKENSON and Mr. Ihmar, Sir J. GRAHAM said he had undertaken this measure from a sincere desire to promote the better administration of justice, and he was quite ready to listen to any suggestions from Gentlemen possessing practical experience on that subject. Many of the objections to the measure applied rather to the details than to the principle. The principle was that, upon the whole, justice would be better administered by public servants receiving salaries for the duties which they performed ; the principle was that, with reference to the whole body of the country, whose interests were involved, salaries were preferable to fees. He believed, also, that in the end economy would be promoted by the measure under considera tion. The lion. Member for Cheshire said that if the Bill passed, enormous salaries would be granted by magistrates in quarter sessions. Mr. T. EGERTON said his observation was, that the magistrates would be obliged to pay large salaries in order to obtain efficient officers. Sir J. GRAHAM said he could conceive no trust more sacred than that vested in magistrates by this Bill, and he felt persuaded that no prodigal salaries would be awarded. It was objected that magistrates' clerks were unknown to the law. They were not un known to those who had to pay the fees.—(Hear.) Many Hon. Members had said that clerks had no power to prosecute ; he had thought it better that, on the whole, the matter should be left open to discus sion. With respect to clerks of the peace now exist ing as such, he proposed to give them compensation for any loss which they might sustain, calculated on their receipt for the last twenty years. He had no doubt but under this hill the services of eminent persons would be obtained at comparatively moderate salaries. He proposed to leave in the hands of the magistrates power in certain cases to remit the fees. One great object of the Bill was to take precautions against the appointment of inferior persons. He had known many cases in which per sons who were not qualified had held the office ; and he wished to prevent a recurrence of that evil. With respect to uniformity of fees, ho thought the interests of those who sought justice, whether in the superior or the inferior courts, required that for the same judicial act in this couutry persons should pay the same—and that a moderate price— (Hear, hear)—and they could only secure uni formity in the mode proposed by this Bill. On the present occasion he wished the House to con sent to the second reading, and the details of the measure might be considered in Committee. The Bill provided that proper legal assistance should be given to prisoners, and that this assistance should be professional ; that the salaries should be fixed by the a , magistrates throughout England, and that this salary should be sufficient to command this assistance. The Secretary of State would be bound to fix an equal rate of fees throughout England, and he believed the fees so fixed would, with a moderate scale of salary, command adequate assistance. He believed that the measure, if permitted by the House to become law, would have a salutary effect on the administra tion of justice throughout the country.— (Hear, hear.) He thought it would not be attended with any great expense ; and though the county-rate might be a little increased—which, how ever, he did not anticipate—yet the inhabitants of the districts who now paid the fees would be re lieved. Whatever might be the effect on the Govern ment, when an individual were'placed in the painful and agonising position of being put on his trial, though innocent, and if he should be acquitted, he was bound to say that to exact fees from him did appear to him a monstrous proceeding. Wherever the charge might fall, it ought not to fall on the in nocent party who had just obtained an acquittal. What ever might be the differences of opinion in the House on other pints, with respect to salaries or fees he ex pected entire concurrence on this subject. There might be points which he had omitted, but he had endeavcured to notice all the most prominent •nes that had been brought forward. Some of the objections made by Honourable Members applied rather to details which were open to consideration in Committee ; but the great point now to be considered was the principle of the measure, one which he be lieved was incontestible, that justice would be better administered by servants receiving a salary, than by servants receiving fees. After a few words from General JolucsTolvu and Mr. TURNER, Captain PECHELL saw nothing in the Bill with which he could cordially agree. But he thought the Right Hon. Baronet might have added a provision to restrain magistrates' clerks from acting as political agents ; in a small town it was very objectionable that they should be entrusted with this power. He thought, too, that petty sessions should always be held in a public building. At present, in many places, the sessions were held in a public-house, where prisoners and witnesses were detained for many hours to the profit of the landlord, who charged nothing for the room in which the magis trates met ; it was plain, therefore, that he derived some advantage from it. Mr. ESCOTT thought most of the remarks that had been made applied rather to the details than the principle of the Bill. At the same time he had heard enough to be perfectly convinced that his Hon. Friends themselves who had made the objections were not at all aware of the evils this measure would re move. Those evils were not equally diffused over the country; there were counties in which the vigilance of the magistrates and the better feelings of the officers of the courts of justice, had, of themselves, put an end to the most illegal and unjust part of the system, and he believed Oxfordshire was one of those places. This Bill established a system of payment of clerks of the peace by salaries instead of fees. That might be an excellent principle, but the Bill was not the one he had asked the Right Hon. Baronet for, last year. The measure for which he asked him was a short declaratory Act, which should put an end to the existing system of unjust and illegal fees. One clause would have done this; by the concurrence of all who had spoken on both sides of the House, there could have been no objection to such a Bill. But he was far from saying the Right Hon. Baronet was not right in going farther than this ; it was enough for him to know that the Bill, as it was introduced, would abolish these unjust and illegal fees. He was sure many Hon. Gentleman were not precisely aware of what the system really was. Three officers were affected by this Bill, clerks of the peace, clerks of assize, and clerks of the magistrates. Each of these officers in different counties, to different amounts took these unjust fees on different pretences. The clerk of assize took them under the sanction of the most extraordinary Act of Parliament which ever was passed, or had ever disgraced the statute-book of the country, and which he did not hesitate to declare was a fraud on Parliament and the country. This was the 55th of Geo. 111., chap. 50. By this sec tion acquittal fees were abolished in the case of pri soners,but, by a subsequent section,a compensation was given from the county-rates for "all such fees," and under these fees that compensation was unjustly re ceived. But strange to say, the clerk of the peace did not take fees, or was not entitled to them, under this Act. The fees were granted under different Acts. The duty of the justices was to make out a table of the, fees that ought to be paid, which was to he submitted to the judges for their sanction, and if they should approve of it, then they were paid. But under the present system was it not too bad that fees should he taken from defendants while there was no authority whatever in the Act for doing so ?—(Hear.) Yet it was a well-known fact that there were certain sums put down in the list as fees to be paid by defendants, and that had gone on for years without being exposed. He did not seek to attach blame to any body for permitting this practice to continue, because what was everybody's business was nobody's, except that he did think the parties oughti ohave looked after these matters before. Besides this,the clerks of thejustices also took fees from defendants, and that, too, too there was no Act of Parliament to authorise. But it was done in this way : A bill of costs was made out, in which was included certain sums alleged to be the fees to be paid by defendants, and they had to pay them. Surely this should not be all o wed to con tinue, for if there was no authority 1 r it Ire Act of Parliament, what authority was there ? Was there any man who, standing in the capacity of a defen dant, should be asked to pay fees ? He had had an op portunity of pleading " Not guilty," and taking his trial ?—(Hear, hear.) He knew he was now speak ing in the hearing of many Hon. Members learned in the law, and they well knew that there was no law to sanction such a course as that of taking fees from a defendant by a Queen's officer, ever since the time of the laws of Edward the First. He had heard of instances where the fees t a k en f rom d e f en d an t s amounted to such a thing as 31. and 41., before a man in the position of a defendant was afforded an opportunity of p le ading " Not guilty," even upon a charge of a trifling assault.—(Hear.) \Vas it not too bad that such a practice should be permitted, and yet it was no unc ommon occurrence that such a thing was. done to one party by another from mere spite ; and the defendant often happened to be a poor man, w ho had to beg a l oan o f 51. b e f ore h e could be in a position to defend himself from such a truckling charge.—(Hear, hear.) He would not troulale the House further on this subject, but he trusted that the Bill now before the House would have the effect of remedying and removing these il legal abuses. Mr. MILES concurred in the principle of the Bill, but he differed from the provisions of many of the clauses, and hoped the abuses complained of would not be permitted any longer to exist. Mr. HAWES approved of the Bill, and hoped it would be passed, as nothing could be a greater abuse than to have the fees exacted in the manner stated by the Hon. Member opposite. The SOLICITOR -GENERAL was afraid the answer which he had to give to his Hon. Friend the Mfiamber: for Somersetshire would not be very satis factory to his Hon. Friend. If the fees were settled by Act of Parliament, most unquestionably it would be perfectly legal to take those fees. His Hon. Friend had, however, imposed a much more difficult task upon him, as his Hon. Friend had celled upon him to state the law and the facts of the case. Now, if his Hon. Friend had stated what were the facts, he (the Solicitor-General) would, to the best of his ability, have stated what the law was. There was a wide: difference of opinion between his Hon. Friend the Member for Winchester, and his Hon. Friend the Member for Somersetshire, as to the facts of this case. This matter was now pending in the Courts. He would have in another place to argue this question. The facts would be there ascertained, and judgment would be given. He must, therefore, decline to give an opinion on the law of this case, and leave the facts doubtful for the preserti.—(Laughte r. ) Mr. WA KLEY sincerely hoped the fee system would be pursued to the highest Courts. He did not think the lion. Solicitor-General had answered the other question of the Hon. Memb er for Winchester, compensation in res question. There that i t dii The partiesSOLlClTOß iwnhegetahlefreesw ere Waf.:ateo had taken illegal fees, and which -t of those fees. . p ' e r t wards abolished, were entitled to not require a lawyer to un could be no doubt that such persons were not entitled to compensation. The Bill was then re ed a second time,. and ordered to be committed on the 14th of April. G. EN :w E e lt r t A h L at BAST! t RDY BILL. The House then wet it into Committee on this Bill. Sir J. GRAHAM s tad the object of the Bill was merely to correct matte ,re of form. Mr. COLLETT tl ought the words " putative father," were very indi; mtinct, and he therefore moved that they be left out.— -(Laughter.) After a few word. ; from the SOLICITOR GENERAL, the cla use was passed without a division. The remaining clause aof the Bill were then gone through as also the sch , idule without any opposition. Sir J. GRAHAM ti ten moved the following ad ditional clauses : " And be it Enacted, that t when an order made under the provision of the said Ac t shall, prior to the passing of this Act, have been cos shed for any defect therein, and not upon the merits, i tt shall be lawful for the mo ther of the bastard child, 3i i whose favour such order shall have been made, tct• take proceedings for the ob taining of another order, ; is cording to the provisions of the said Act, at any time within the space of three calendar months after tint passing of this Act, although the period limited for her a oplication to the justice under the said Act shall have ex p ired. " And whereas power is . given by the said Ac t to the putative father to appeal ',against . an order made upon him by the justices in Pett ;) Session assembled, giving ',ENING, MARCH 18, 1845. notice of appeal as therein specified, and also sufficient security, by recognizance or otherwise, for the payment of costs, to the satisfaction of some one justice of the peace, Be it enacted, That the condition of any such re cognizance shall be for the appearance of the said puta tive father at such General Quarter Sessions of the Peace as is required by the said Act, and his trial of the appeal thereat, and the payment of such costs as he shall be then and there ordered to pay; and if at any time before the hearing of the appeal the putative father who shall have entered into any sueh recognizance, shall give notice in writing of his abandonment of the appeal to the mother of the child, in whose favour the order shall have been made, and to the justice or justices before whom the said recognizance shall have been taken, and shall pay or tender to the said mother all sums then due under the said order, and such costs and expenses as she shall have incurred by reason of such notice of appeal, the said recognizance so entered into by the said putative father shall not be estreated, nor in any manner put in force, or otherwise proceeded with." Mr. BOUVERIE thought there was much in justice in these clauses, and he should oppose them. Sir JAMES GRAHAM further explained the nature of these clauses. After a conversation, in which Mr. Bouverie, Sir J. Graham, General Johnstone, and the Solicitor- General took part, which bore upon the point of the mother of a bastard child receiving relief from the workhouse during her confinement, and an allowance from the putative father at the same time, the clauses were added to the Bill. The House resumed, and the Bill was ordered to be reported to-morrow. The House then adjourned. HER MAJESTY'S LEVEE. The Queen held a Levee (the second this season) yes terday afternoon, at two o'clock, at St. James's Palace. Her Majesty and Prince Albert, and the royal suite, arrived from Buckingham Palace, in four carriages, escorted by a party of Life Guards. The Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, and the Master of the Horse, received her Majesty and his Royal Highness, and con ducted them to the State-rooms. The royal suite included the Duchess of Buccleuch, Mistress of the Robes ; the Viscountess Canning, Lady in Waiting ; Viscount Hawarden, Lord in Waiting ; Colonel Berkeley Drummond, Groom in Waiting ; Colonel the Hon. Charles Grey, Equerry in Waiting ; General Sir George Anson, Groom in Waiting to Prince Albert ; Major-General Sir Edward Bowater, Equerry to Prince Albert ; and the Pages of Honour in Waiting. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge was pre sent at the Levee, attended by Mr. Edmond Mildmay. In the Foreign Diplomatic Circle the following pre sentations to the Queen took place :—Le Baron de la Ronciere Le Neury, by Count de St. Aulaire, the French Ambassador ; Edib Effendi, lire Secretaire de l'Am bassade, et frere de l'Ambassadeur ; Teaza Effendi, ado Secretaire de l'Ambassade et parent de l'Ambassadeur, and Hassan Effendi, Attache de l'Ambassade et parent de l'Ambassadeur, by Sarim Effendi, Turkish Am bassador. The Foreign Diplomatic Circle was attended by Count de St. Aulaire, the French Ambassador, and Le Comte Louis de Noailles, Secretary to the Embassy. Count Dietrichstein, the Austrian Ambassador, and le Baron de Kellar, first Secretary to the Embassy ; Sarin' Effendi, Turkish Ambssador, and Mons. Agop, Secre tary's Interpreter to the Embassy ; M. Van de Weyer, the Belgian Minister, Mr. Charles Drouet, Secretary of Legation, and M. 0. Delepierre, Attaché ; Mr. Moreno, the Buenos Ayrean Minister ; Count de Pollon, Sardi nian Minister ; Baron de Brunnow, the Russian Minis ter, M. de Berg and M. de Koudriaffsky, Secretaries of Legation, and M. de Longuinoff, Attache to the Lega tion ; Count Kielmansegge, the Hanoverian Minister ; the Chevalier Bunsen, Prussian Minister ; Mr. Everett, the United States Minister ; Count de Reventlow, Danish Minister, and M. de Bielke, Secretary of Lega tion ' • Le Duc de Sotomayor (Marquis de Casa Imp), the Spanish Minister, lo Chevalier de Pedroreva, Second Secretary of Legation, and le Comte de Cres cente, Attaché Militaire to the Legation; General Prince Castelcicala, Neapolitan Minister, and N. G. Canofari, Secretary of Legation ; Baron Gersdorff, the Saxon Minister ; Baron de Rehausen, Swedish Charg6 d'Affaires. 1. In the General Circle the following Presentations to her Majesty took place:-- The Lord Advocate on his appointment, by Sir James Graham. Sir HenryPottinger, on return from China, by the Ear] of Aberdeen. The General Circle was attended by the Lord Privy Seal, the First Lord of the Treasury, the Secretaries of State for the Home and Foreign Departments, the Chan cellor of the Exchequer, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, the Chief Commissioners of the Woods and Forests, the Secretary at War, the Earl Marshal, the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of , the Horse, the Groom of the Stole to Prince Albert, the Captain of the Honourable Corps of Gentlemen-at-Arms, the Captain of the Yeomen Guard ; the Marquis of Anglesey, Gold Stick in Waiting •, the Vice-Chamber lain, the Treasurer of the Household ; Lord Monteagle, Comptroller-General of the Exchequer ; the Comp troller of the Household ; Hon. H. Manners Sutton, ALP., Under Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment ; Mr. S. March Phillips, Under Secretary of State Home-office ; Major-General Sir Henry Wheatley, G.C.H., Keeper of her Majesty's Privy Purse ; the Master of the Ceremonies ; Hon. Sir Edward Butler, Lieutenant of the Honourable Corps of Gentleman-at Arms ; Sir George Philip Lee, Lieutenant of the Yeo men Guard ; the Deputy Secretary at War ; Rev. J. Vane, Deputy Clerk of the Closet in Waiting ; Lieut.- Colonel Hall, Silver Stick ; Major-General Sir Henry Ross, Deputy Adjutant-General, R.A.; Mr. H. Robinson, Standard-bearer of the Hon. Corps of Gentlemen-at- Arms ; Sir Augustus Clifford, Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod ; Colonels Weare, H. Bentinck, Dyneley, C. 8., and Clark Kennedy, C.B. and K.H., Aides-de- Camp to theiQueen ; Sir W. C. Ross, R.A., Miniature Painter to the Queen ; the Hon. Charles Law (Recorder of London), one of her Majesty's Counsel ; Mr. Burge, Queen's Counsel, Agent for Jamaica ; Mr. James Bunco Curling, Adjutant of the Hon. Corps of Gentlemen-at- Arms ; Mr. Ellerthorp, Adjutant of the Yeomen Guard ; Captain Sadler, Exon in Waiting ; Sir Benjamin Smith, C.S., Mr. Frederic Peel Round, Gentleman Usher of the Greeen Rod • Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Frederic Smtth, K.H., Gentleman Usher to the Privy Chamber in Waiting ; Mr. Arthur Blackwood, Groom of the Privy Chamber ; Mr. Alfred Montgomery, Gentleman Usher to her Majesty ; Lieutenant-Colonel Diggle, Gentleman Usher in Waiting ; Colonel Godwin, Gentleman Usher to his Royal Highness Prince Albert in Waiting ; Mr. Mellish, Gentleman Usher to her Ma jesty the Queen Dowager ; Mr. Cotton, Governor of the Bank of England ; Mr. J. B. Heath, Deputy Go vernor of the Bank of England ; and the following : Duals—Hamilton and Brandon, Devonshire, Mon trose. MARQUISNS—Ormonde, Westminster, Cholmondeley, Douro, Kinnoull, Enniskillen, Devon, Ranfurley, Clare, Yarborough. Cadogan, De Gray, Wilton, Clanwilliam, Wicklow, Mansfield. VISCOUNTS—Ingestre, Chelsea, Howick, Torrington, Cantilupe, Berehaven, Newry, Barrington. BISHOPS—St. David's, Lincoln, Hereford, Lichfield. LORDS —Foley, Worsley, Kinnaird, Harry Vane, Courtenay, Mahon, Norreys, De Roe, James Stuart, Geo. Paget, Francis Egerton, Beauvale, Feversham, Sudeley, Haddo, Forbes, Sandon, Carrington, W. Poulett. RIGHT HONOUNABLBS—Sir George Grey, Bart.,' "C. Tennyson d'Evncourt, R. L. Sheil, Sir A. Foster, Geo. Dawson:Y. Sliaw. HONOURAHLES—CharIes Law, Q, C., Captain Dun eombe, C. Hope, M. P., H. Cholmondeley, M. P., L. King, F. Cadogan, F. Chichester, W. S. Knox, Rev. W. Henniker, Captain Grey, S. Lyttelton, Captain F. Villiers, Colonel Lowther, E. Coke, H. Liddell, M. P., G. W. Barrington. COUNT—De Salis. JUDGE—Des Barres. BARONETS—FeIix Booth, John B. Johnstone, William Fraser, James Clark, Henry Dukinfield, Augustus Clif-' ford, William Codrington, H. H. Campbell, M.P., H. Pottinger, R. Howard, W. Heathcote, T. R. Gage, J. M‘Taggart, M.P., J. P. Boileau, H. Mildmay, G. Staunton, M.P. Sias-Charles Scudamore, George Rich, W. C. Ross, R.A., W. Stirling, J. Kirkland, J. Hensler, J. Hamilton, W. Symonds, J. Walsh. DEAN—Carlisle. ARCHDIACON—HaIe. REVEREND DOCTORS —Jeff, Saxby Penfold, Parish, Vivian. REVEREND Mnssanufts—John Wright, R. C. Savage, Herbert Kynaston,W. J. Rowe, M. R. Scott, T. Haver field, J. Bluck, G. W. Carlson, W. Harbin, J. H. Gray, G. P. Polten, T. Gregory, G. B. Tuson. DOCTORS—Henry Lee, Bowring, R. Ferguson, Ro berts, Granville, R. B. Owen, Ryan, Sutherland. MessiEnas—Lee, Charles Mills, William Lyon, John J. Robinson, W. Rose, Burge, Q.C., Wallis, Lockhart, M.P., Jeremiah Pilcher, Murchison, J. Lockhart, Hitch cock, Geo. Buckley Bolton, Albert W. Woods, Thomas Hussey, M.P., Bailie Cochrane, M.P., Edward Buller, M.P., Charles Balfour, Shirley, M.P., Homfray, Bailey, M.P., Horace Twiss, E. Duke Moore, Hallam, Frederick Goulburn, E. Shirley, M.P., Nussey, J. Bailey, M.P., P. F. Tytler, J. Somes, M.P., J. Somes, jun., James Cochrane, Robert Allfrey, Cotton, Charles Castellain,J. B. Heath, Sanderson, M.P., R. B. Sheridan, Hogg, Pemberton, Estcourt, Wickham, Hume, M.P., G. E. Vernon, P. S. Butler, M.P., R. C. Berwicke, J. Young, J. H. Palsgrave, Lyons, T. Clifton, M.P., H. Whitwell, IL J. Nead, H. T. Prinsep, Horsman, M.P., J. B. Dan bury, B. Monck, W. Miles, M.P. Tardnew, R. Keily, E. B. Roche, M.P., G. Grenfell, F. Dundas, M.P., IL Beauclerk, M. Milnes, M.P., Gill, M.P., Pownall, L. Bruges, M.P., Gwynne, E. White, Pulman, F. P. Phil lips, C. Young, J. N. Merriman, G. Philipps, M.P., C. Jolliffe, R. Neville, M.P., O'Conor Don, M.P., R.P. Staples, Hunter, Dugdale, M.P., Stephenson, R. Hollond, M.P., Beckett, M.P., De Horsey, R. J. Bagshaw, Fogo, Vin cent, J. O'Brien, Carden, S. G. Bonham, Trotter, Bain bridge, Williams, Packe, M.P., Meek, J. R. Gardiner, 11. Seymour, Arthur, Stretton, W. Wilshire, R. Grim shaw, 11. F. Wood, Deedes, M.P., J. De Vries, Ander son, E. Rice, M.P., 11. Irwin, M. Smythe, M. Wyvill, Merriman, Stanton, M P., J. Farrell, Aldan), M.P., H. S. Mildmay, M.P., J. W. Gutch. G. Bacon, 11. Hughes, R. Barclay, P. Budworth, C. T. Barnard, C. Wemyss, Tito. T. Grant, Colquhoute M.P., B. Gurdon, Arthur, N. Vaughan, D. T. Smith. FIELD- MARSHAL—T he Duke of Wellington. GENERALS—Lord Aylmer, Sir H. Douglas, Sir J. Doveton, K.C.8.. Sir F. Stovin, Sir 11. Wheatley, G.C.H., Sir Patrick Ross, Sir R. Arbuthnot, K.C.8., Sir T. Hawker, K.C.11., Sir Burgis Camac, Aitchison, Si.r W. Clinton, M'Leod, Sir 11. F. Bouverie, K.C.B. G.C.M.G., Latter, Sir T. Montrisor, O'Doyly, Sir Lewis Grant, Maister, Lord C. Manners. Grosvenor, Wynyard, C. 8., Lomox, Clitherowe, Sir H. Watson, L'Estrange, Sir Fitz Roy Maclean. COLONELS—L. G. Du Costa, Newell, Thorn, C. 8 ., Sir Lieut. - Col. Ada m s , C. 8., on a pp ointment to the 49th ill F. Cockburn, Smith, Clive, G. Higginson, Malcolm, H. giment, by Lord Fitscoy Somerset, K.C.B. R. Hartley, Cureton,7C.B., Hon. R. Fitzgibbon, Gas- Major Blakiston, on his appointment to the Hon. Cel l coene Sir Richard Doherty, Daly, Charles Wyndham, of Gentlemen-at Arms, by Lord Forester. _ , lei I Power, Tullock, Middleton, Thornton, Adams, C. 8., Captain Garstin, on his return from India, by the Baker, Rushbrooke, M.P., Clinton, Codrington, W. of Dalhous e Moore.ie. Major 11. B. Henderson, on his return from India , b i th MASORS—AIIen, Longfield,Long, M.P., Alcock, Morse Earl of Auckland. Cooper, Hartley, Graham, Turner, H. B. Henderson, Major Stoyte, by Lieut.-General Robert Ellice. • 010 1 Archibald G. Hyslop, Faber, Croft, Stoyte, Lawrenson , L ieut. L. Gomez da Costa, b y Lieut.-General Sir Hon. H. Crichton, Beakiston. Barton. • Ill'i • CAPTAINS—B. Ibbetson, Hon. R. Boyle, W. Wood , Capt ain Fer g uson on p romotion, b y General Six Henry Paget, Clifford, E. F. Grant, Burdett, Barbor, R. loughby Gordon, Bart. Sir H. Wardell, Leckie, Pender, Garstin, J. T. Grant, Hon. Lieut. - Colonel Smith on his return f ro m India, by J. Lindsay, G. St. P. Lawrence, Unett, Emery, Sprye, James Lushington, G.C.B. F. Percy Nott, Low, W. Wood, J. Penny, F. N. Skinner , Lieut-Colonel Gascoyne on his appointment to the e e ero t er E. S. Blake, H. Turner, F. Percy Nott, Fred. Stephen - m end of the 72d Re g iment, b y the Adjutant son,e Ferguson, Fred. W. Hamilton, R. W. Fraser, Ma- of the Forces. 1001 cartney Long, Poore, Bischoff, M. Archdale, Bateman, Major Alcock on his promotion and return from CO Holder, George Forbes, George Lewis, Amiel, W. St. by Lieut.-General L'Estrange. el j• bf Clair, H. Creed. Cap t a in . William St. Clair on his return from In LIEUTENANTS—F. Dawson, G. Turner, J. A. Ewart, the Right Hon. Earl Rosslyn. H. B. Chambers, Pennington, Charles Greaves, E. Arch- Mr. D. T. Smith, by Mr. R. M. Milnes, M. P. ese e dell, J. N. Peto, J. W. Stewart, Hogg, C. C. M`Calluns, Mr. Thos. Tassell Grant, Royal Clarence Yar d, Debutts, Tilly, H. Nuthall, J. G. Wilkinson, Hon. S. port, by the Earl of Liverpool. Jocelyn, F. Powell, Dillon, Charles E. Thornton Clarke, Mr. C. T. Barnard, Charge d'Affaires at Sane C o F. W. Ord, W. J. Hughes, R.A., Henry Stone, Gough, Gotha, on his return, by the Earl of Aber deen. Charles S. Wilson, C. Glazbrook, E. Eastwick, J. W. Mr. C. Wemyss, by Colonel Drummond. lefield' Thomas, W. Southey, E. Eastwick, Roche, W. H. Parish , Vice - Adm i r al S ir W. Parker, Rear-Admiral Ing el, Clarke, T. E. Thring, Hodson, G. Barstow, Power, Stace, Commander Crispin, and Captains J. Bowl'er'ets i S. G. Boothby, Hawkins, W. Q. Pogson, G. A. T. Her- Crozier, and M`Dougall, on their appeintraem l e Toy, Charles Jervois, De Ros, J. L. Heathorn, Du Cane, Commanders Chamberlain, W. S. Cooper,co, Todd, Higginson, W. E. Remington, H. Jervis, A. M. Stewart, Wm. Robinson, E. B. Stewart, ana . 0 ; Archdale, Mills, F. T. Grove, James Money, W. B. tains R. Eden, and Hutton, on their prom Lo ra Parker, I. W. M. G. Hughes, C. N. Halked, R. E. F. Captains M. Quin, and H. Kellett, on their re e t , er e Craufurd : from China ; Captain Sir J. Marshall, on his r t o e a CORNETS—Keene, Dodnell, H. Lindow, D. Lane, An- from foreign service ; Captain Sir J. Frank liT o e, derton, T. C. W. Russell, Power. Lieutenants H. T. Le Visconti, and G. FL gel to ENSIGNS.—MoberIy, Bean, Glover, W. E. F. O'Brien, on their return from service and their appoint:l,4os Young, Bean, Winscorn, Fife, Hyde, Boddam. Jones, the Arctic Expedition ; Commanders, Henry „ t e Stone, Baynes, A. I. Garnett, Hutchinson, H. M. Arch- and E. Codd, on their promotion and return ft-so dell, Glover, Grindall, R. Doran, Charter, Walker, foreign service ; Commander S i r W. Hoste, Cavhbi, *retailed. W. H. Hull, G. Maubray, Lieutenants J. Will °llg ADMIRALS—Sir Charles Ogle, Brown, Sir Edward and S. 0. Woodbridge , by Lord Haddington. eon, King, Sir Edward Codrington, Sir Thomas Troubridge, Captains, I. Penny, R. H. Wardell, Amiel ; Lie ut tet, Inglefield, C. 8., Sir William Parker. C. M`Culluns, William Southey, and 31r. J. Pal e g - eei CAPTAINS (ROYAL NAVY)—Hon. Henry Keppel, T. on their return from India ; Li eu tenant - C t e o .iele Nioolas, C. 8., Sir James C. Ross, Sir John Franklin , Sir Ne well ; Ma j or A. H y slo p; Lieutenants, B. Ba s 0. Edward Parry, Horatio Austin,C.B., George Goldsmith , H. Hu t hal l, W. J. Po g son, W. Remington, : - . . o ie, Rodney Eden, Eyres, Washington, Eden, Frederick Heat h o rn, C. N. Halked, Dr. R y an, and Mr. a." Hutton, Michael Quin, Peter Richards, John Bowker, by Lord Ripon. d re Sell Bird, Howard, T. R. M. Crozier, W. H. Hall, Trou - Commander Jam e s S toddart, on p romotion, an cso els bridge, G. Mowbray, Henry Kellet, C. 8., G. G. Loch , from C hina ; and Lieutenant W. B. Parker, Sir John Marshall, Codrington,MacDougall,Sir Themes appoint ment, b y Sir W. Parker. bie Bourchier, A. Court, D. H. O'Brien, William Hood. Major Lawrenson; L ieutenant J. W. Hughes, ea CAPTAINS (TRINITY HOUSE)—Nelson, John Locke. promotion, by the Hon. E. Lygon. a rot COMMANDERS (ROYAL NAVY)—Henry J. Douglas, Lieutenant-Colonel Daly, on promotion an v.' ~., p , Hon. Robert Gore, M.P., Chamberlain, Richard Douglas , from India ; a n d Cap t a in L o w, on p romotion, W. S. Cooper, Charles Grey, Henry Crease, Henry C. Dalbrac. g • s °ll6 Chade, R. A. Stewart, Edward Codd, James Stoddart , Maj o r , the lio n . H. Cr i c h ton ; Lieutenants, H. G. Hamilton, W. C. Wood, Montreser, James Fitz- and J. Grove, by Colonel Moore. no on James, W. Robinson, Edward B. Stewart, Sir William Colonel s, Sir F. Cockburn , on r e t urn from 40 lloste, Gladstone, M.P., M. Hayes, Moore, Crispin. and Sir R. Doherty , on return from the West LIEUTENANTS LIEUTENANTS (ROYAL NAVY) Ewart, Edward by Lord Stanley. thei r ff Little, E. B. Rice, H. T. D. Le Vesconte, George Henry Lieutenants I. W. Stewart , and J. N. P eto, en A . S Hodgson, Samuel 0. Woddridge, James Willoughby. . turn from the West Indies, by General IVPLe,_ ° " O iires The following noblemen and gentlemen had the Lieutenant - General Meister , on return from o o ar honour of being presented to her Majesty : Indies , and appointment ; Colonels , Thorne, pe/0 The Earl of Enniskillen on his marriage, by the Marquis pointment , and Clive , on promotion, by of Anglesey. of Wellington. the' . ee oa s e Earl of Ranfurly, on coming to his title, by the Earl of Captains Unett and Macartney and Lieut. Toeee e we Wicklow. return from India; Capt. Poore and Cornet Pee Mr. Lee, on being appointed one of her Majesty's Coun - their appointments , by Col. Middleto n. by th e eel, by the Lord Chancellor. Lieutenants Stace, Du Cane, Clarke, and Till'' , rtoth 00 Mr. William Lyon, on his appointment as one of her Inspector of Fortifications. Majesty's Honourable Corps of Gentlemen-at-Arms, Cornets Dodnell, D. Lane, H. Lindow, and And e e e e Al li by Lord Forester. their appointments ; Lieutenant Miles and Mr. Jahn James Robinson, on his appointment as one derson , by Colonel St. Quintin. field, $11 : of her Majesty's Honourable Corps of Gentlemen-at- Captain Holder , on promotion; Major Long oe,° hi Arms, by Lord Forester. signs Charter, A. J. Garnett, Baynes, and S I o f The Hon. Frederick Chichester, on his appointment to Sir H. Bayley. Per' the Sussex Militia, by the Marquis of Anglesey. Captains F. P. Nott and Wm. Wood, Staff - Sir William Codrington, on succeeding to the Baronetcy, Pensioners, by Lieut.-Colonel Tulloch. e ofell I`'• re sie by Admiral Codrington. Captain E. F. Grant and Lieutenant R. E . e • ro- The Hon. Captain Grey, R.M., C. 8., on return from on their appointments; Captain H. Turner, (101 l foreign service, and nomination as Companion of the tion; Colonel Power, on return from Ceyle ll cighrt 0, Bath, by the Earl of Haddington Dante F. Ord, W. J. Hughes, J. Thring , C• " `b y eir Rev. John Wright, by the Hon. Sir Edward Butler. Barstow, J. Boothby, , and Mr. C. Young , e • The Hon. George W. Barrington, by his father, Murray. Gr in d OPI Oh Viscount Barrington. Ensigns Winscom, Maberly, Hyde, F ife, 100 Hon. William Stuart Knox, 85th Light Infantry, by his Walker, Boddam, Greathed, Bean, Young' father, the Earl of Ranfurly. G over, and Hutchinson, by Sir F. Smith. „soles , Sir William Fraser, by Sir Ralph Howard. Lieutenant Edward Little, by Captain Toup 1 10. , he Judge Des Barres, Supreme Court of Newfoundland, on Lieutenant E. B. Rice, R.N. by E. Rice, Esq ., et to leave of absence, by the Right Hon. Lord Stanley. Ensign William E. F. O'Brien, on appoint-i n n o et Dr. R. B. Owen, on return from India, by Major-Gen. 54th Regiment, by his father, Captain v" Sir A. Maclaine. O'Brien, R.N. e ; o° l6 Mr. Hitchcock, on his appointment as Master of the Cornet Power, on return from India, by '- ii 1 ,1 Court of Exchequer in Ireland, by Sir T. Fremantle. Colonel Power, R.A. th Pi Mr. George Buckley Bolton, by the Marquis of Pour°. Ensign R. Doran, on appointment to th e 18 i Mr. Baillie Cochrane, M.P., on his marriage, by the Irish, by Colonel D. Pitt, K.H. Lis bellbi" Marquis of Granby. Ensign Hugh Montgomery Archdall, by - 1 , Mr. Goulburn, on his appointment as Commissioner of Captain Mervyn Archdall, M.P. _,„ tee 11 Customs, by the Chancellor of the Elechequer. Captain F. N. Skinner, on return from forei gn Mr. Charles Castellain, Consul for Belgium, by the Bel- by Admiral Lord Colville. 0 gian Minister. Captain Bischoff, by Earl De Grey. , eer dpe., e ie Mr. Robert Allfrey, by Viscount Barrington. Assist. - Surg. Tardrew, on appointment, by J-^-• owe Mr. James Cochrane, Chief-Justice of Gibraltar, by Sir Commander James Fitzjames, on return frornaitio, James Graham. China and appointment to the Arct ic axe Rev. G. P. Boileau Pollen, by Sir John P. Boileau, Bart. Sir John Barrow, Bart. Itil'i The Rev. J. W. Carlson ,Minister of the Swedish Church Captain Long, by Earl Bruce. e we ~ in Princes-square, by the Rev. Dr. Kuper. Captain George Lewis , by Colonel C. W r Yu" etiee' Rev. R. C. Savage, on his appintment to the living of Commander H. J. Douglas, R.N. , on prom i. Nuneaton, by Sir Robert Peel. Lieutenant-General Sir Howard Douglas- Bead The Dean of Carlisle, on his appointment, by Sir Robert Lieutenant - Dillon, by Lieutenant-General Sir f , 0 0 Peel. Bouverie. Ve nt. Sir George Rich, by Earl Delawarr. Lieutenant and Adjutant C. Glazbrook , b y ge ar' - The Rev. Herbert Kynaston, 31. A., High Master of St. Colonel Adams, C.B. hie Paul's School, to present a copy of the St. Paul's Lieutenant Charles Townsheed Wilson, 1 1 jet tar ti Scholars' Address to her Majesty, on the opening of the Duke of Buccleuch, K.G. titl en e rte s so o the Royal Exchange, by Sir James Graham, Bart. Mr. Hume presented to her Majesty a r e 0 l : ' Mr. John Nicolay De Vries, on his return from China, the seal and sign manual of his gig an e e the itO and promotion, by Vice-Admiral Sir Wm. Hall Gage, Sheen, the deposed Raja of Sattara, en - der ° ;.b . G.C.H. descendant of the great Seerajee, the fo_ r tin.„ 9o , - t ee Mr. William Willshire, on his appointment as her Ma- Mahratta empire. The Raja prays her inkl"„ r ote e o rdl jesty' Consul at Adrianople, by the Earl of Aberdeen. graciously pleased to extend to biro thath:oeurte Mr. Charles Joliffe, on being appointed Deputy Lieu- which he has a right to expect from th e be tenant of the county of Cumberland, by the Earl of justice of the British Government,d the? b i i Lonsdale. furnished with a copy of the charges an , w e l eh lb er Mr. Horace Twigs, on his appointment to the Vice • against him ehich he has demanded, an u hos , le l efe Chancellor of Lancaster, by Lord Granville Somerset. hitherto been refused him, and by which he r W e d t O. J . , Mr. Joseph Somes, M.P., by Lord Ingestre. a trial, or even a hearing, which the mean be 0 11 4 Mr. Frederick Parr Phillips, by Sir James Macgrigor, jesty's subjects has the right to demand , o ed a jig to Bart. from his throne, and now remains an ex Mr. George Grenfell, by Viscount Hawarden. soner at Benares. ie• 0 R o of s o Mr. Richard Keily, on his return from Madrid, by the The Earl of Devon presented a pet..- 0 . 0 petition se Hon. Edward Petre. Dean and Chapter of Exeter, against the 10 Mr. J. B. Daubuz, High Sheriff for Sussex, by the Duke sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. ter of Richmond. tn 3 l ue e nd e lf After the Levee, the Marquis of Wes d o Mr. Bligh Monck, Sheriff of Berks, by Sir J. Graham. audience of the Queen, to return the Riban by viz., dust tid e" •,. Mr. Henry Whitwell, by Lord Brougham and Vaux. of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, 'Ke rn Orr Mr. Henry John Noad, of Quebec, by the Hon. G. Rice Marquis of Westminster. B art , ' ha6 dia , f Trevor. The Right Hon. Sir George Grey, ee d 00 e , e : Mr. Talbot Clifton, M.P., on his marriage, by the Hon. dience of her Majesty to return the Blu a- f S P' 0 01 Col. Lowther. of the Most Honourable Military Order 0 0 , Co oi Mr. John Young, late Returning O ffi cer for the City of worn by the late General the Hon. Sir g en ' !m4O Montreal, by the Right Hon. Lord Stanley. G.C.B. Pei" Mr. Lyons, by the Earl of Aberdeen. The Queen held a Chapter of the 3 Y 5 ,- 1 15.,.. 15 1 111 ; Mr. Robert Calverly Berwicke, on his appointment to Most Noble Order of the Thistle. The Asi i ;e'by A a ' 10'. ho the Northumberland and Newcastle Yeomanry Cavalry, were habited in the mantles of green velr e. asr s " j o r t i by Lord H. Vane. ' ter and Mr. Ede, in the Portrait Gallery, a n 3eo I f : Mr. P. Somerset Butler, M.P., by the Marquis of Or- their collars. The Knights Brethren Pr e ol d I'' _ up monde. Earl of Aberdeen, the Earl of Roseberiv 0 0_ , : f 4 Captain Toup Nicholas, C. 8., late of her Majesty's ship of Mansfield. • thei r et r Vindictive, on his return from the Pacific, by the Earl The Officers of the Order appeared In p rete,os; of Haddington. and wore their chains and badges. The e : leers: to j e Captain Hon. Henry Keppel, R.N., on his return from Albert William Woods, Esq. (Laneas te ' WI OP' the East Indies, by Vice-Admiral Sir William Parker, puty to Sir John Richardson, Bart., S enee o° l3 Bart., K C.B. Order ; and Frederick Peel Round, Escl'' be so p , ell Captain Peter Richards, R.N. on return from China, Usher of the Green Rod. thr_,, e sd,o nomination as Companion of the Bath, and appoint. Soon after three o'clock, the Knights Bee p sun went to her Majesty's ship Hibernia, by Vice-Admiral been called over by the Deputy:secretlZoer Sir William Parker, G.C.B. the presence of the Sovereign in the IdP ' an d s Captain J. F. Grant, on return from foreign service, by attended by the o ffi cers of the Order. State' yo e • of P' Lieut.-Colonel Adams, C.B. The Queen was seated in the Chair ~o eel Major Faher, on return from foreign service, by Lieut.- the mantle and collar of the Order ; his 0 4 0 11,,,e'„Af Colonel Adam. Prince Albert also wore the m antle e u `,:bre P o ' o ielis Lieutenant J. G. Wilkinson, on promotion, by General Majesty was pleased to command the glb e irs e t Lord Aylmer, G.C.B. • h e ir to i to take their seats at the table, accordo .4 v- 1 Mr. George Bacon, on his return from India, by the in the Order, the o ffi cers standing in r or rOl i ? Marquis of Douro. bottom of the table. o slO iff i nt"' "e el Mr. Aldam, M.P., by Lord John Russell. The Sovereign was then please d t rilig et eve ll ir Mr. James Farrell, by the Marquis of Ormonde. pleasure touching the election 0f a rto t he 1) 61) ;tr ° Mr. Stanton, M.P., by Lord John Russell. Mr. Marmaduke Wyvill, by Mr. Monckton Miles. Mr. Meade Smythe, by the Earl of Wicklow. and the tshueffKrangiegslohtsavßinregthbreeenn perooclieceedtee.dorbkote6g:people jet secretary (commencing with the Jurrl , w ho vit oe tij o els Mr. John W. G. Gutch, by Mr. J. H. Vivian, M.P. by him, kneeling,presented to the Clio: 1 e" 0 bad 0 Lieut.-Colonel Willoughby Moore, on promotion, by the to declare that James Duke of Montros ,go 0 Marquis of Anglesey. elected a Knight of the Most. Ir Itsoote Captain George Forbes, on promotion, by Lord Charles Order of the Thistle. th e S t' o p " Manners. Then by command of the Sovereign ch op „,, he et Lieutenant Francis Dawson, on his appointment to the Montrose was received at the door of r , eo ig s eo, o o 60th Royal Rifle Corp, by his Royal Highness the by the Earl of Mansfield, the Junior l e d hi es" Duke of Cambridge. eg et .be and was conducted to the Queen, P ewe se Ap r Of Lieut. W. 11. Parish, by Major-General Sir R. Gardiner. puty Secretary, bearing on a velvet ens, ereo e iw - prey Ancient an'e Lieut. Roche, on return from India and Affghanistan, of the Order, and by the Usher of the ur ies ieitta i n ese e t o by Lieut.-General Lord Charles Manners. The Sword of State, borne by Sir ,`', o t he 't o o 0 Lieutenant John W. Thomas, on return from India, by Gentleman Usher, having been handed `e e s P 0 tO the Earl of Ellenborough. the Lord Chamberlain, her M e r tY htiren ci ge e° Lieutenant Hodson, on his return from India, by Gen. eased to confer the honour of I nig d the „,fe Sir Edward Kerrison. the 7ell Lieutenant Power, on promotion, and return from kiss near eel her es ling piw foreign service, by his father, Colonel Power. Duke th o e f s M o o v n er tr e o ig se n . ,s hHanisd.Grace rising he The Duke of Montrose again knee. ._ w e ~r d e r ,o o , Lieutenant Hawkins, l by Lieutenant-General Sir John reign, and the Deputy Secretary on hi s f t he uOO e t o o es je Maclean. to her Majesty the Riband and Jaw Ico th g 0 Lieutenant G. A. F. Hervey, on his return from India, Majesty was graciously pleased to P a e ha y j o o° Grac to by Sir A. Barnard. the Noble Duke's left shoulder. Elio, _ o gre if ete Sub-Lieutenant Hoeg, on his appointment to the First the Sovereign's hand, and received the efe tt 1) , Life Guards, by General Viscount Combermere. IP Of the Knights Brethren, retired. . bt 9 l3r e e i; , o ; Lieutenant Gordon Jervis, on his appointment to the The Chapter being ended the Ntirg , „ te r e le n Royal Engineers, by General Sir Gordon Drummond, by command of the Queen again calleni t ee t he ''.. G.C.B. Sub-Lieutenant de Ros, on appointment to the First tired from the presence of her M aj e st y lou t, ill ne•P'" er Life Guards, by Lord de Ros. puty Secretary, and, with the officrs' w ith IV reverences. Too roe te . L i_„l Lieutenant Higginson, on his appointment, Grenadier The ceremony took place in t ffi li c e ero f S ... ta oe is e viev Guards, by his father, Col. G. Higginson. presence of the Ministers and 0 an d V et ech 9 le Cornet J. C. Watts Russell, on appointment to the 17th After the investiture, her MajestY e d to_ . ' , of eit Lancers, by Colonel St. Quintin. attended by the royal suite, retu rn . Go ods• 1 , ~ OA Second Lieutenant, Audley Mervyn Archdall, by his Palace, escorted by a party of Life , sercle ' de. .0 -- brother, Captain Mervyn Archdall, M.P. Lieutenant 11. Jervis, by Lord James Steuart. Lieutenant Folliott Powell, on his return from India, by Royal Highnesses the Duke and Du loci t he Ingham g H h e a r m M p aj a e l s a t c y e. had Thea deioninnperanp;rtiyoceibteeeeds, ioefethceiripetifil Exe e 0 , esr e Lieutenant-Colonel Cureton, C.B. his Excellency Aali Effendi, his ~ une o kat 4l Lieutenant De Butts, by his father, Lieutenant-General Minister and the Baroness de 1 -' r . 5 of '-' I, t h e, '" Sir Augustus De Butts. Buckingham and Chandos, the Marq e ' iire rf: ibe ra Lieutenant Pennington, by Major General Brown. Earl °f jj the Marquis of Granby, the e La dy U brl agz Lieutenant H. Best Chambers, on appointment to Royal and Countess de Grey, Lord anu, o f CO Of Newfoundland Companies, by Lieutenant-General the Equerry in Waiting to the Du „l e e, Clitherow. ___________ e tlpe rs Ge Captain R. W. Fraser on return from India, by Lieut.- General Sir Lewis Grant. At the parish church of St. j 33 ret, 0, Captain E. S. Blake on his return from India, by Lieut.- by the Rev. Edward Horne, R ect ° r Voiri s oo .° lolo 6 Colonel Sir M. Creagh. Esq., of North Audley street, to Job- ele t ee fib , e il Captain Pender on his return from India, by Lieut.- late or or 01 surviving relative of the , wi ve o ce ,i c )l . 4 MARlVlEL' vire ncs r , 00.6°,1 the „. 1 1 ,f , of the Priory, Hampstead, grandee. an a eon P' General Sir John F. Fitzgerald. Cape G. St. Patrick Lawrence, on release from captivity William Seton, Bart., of Aberdeenshire; v. for 'lee' in Affghanistan, by the Right Hon. Major-General Lady Hume Campbll, eldest daughter Sir John Patterson, Bart., of Eccles, T 1 • o f the Sir Henry Pottinger, G.C.B. Marchmont. Captain Leckie, on his return to India, by the Marquis - r Douro. Captain Hon. 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