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LLVIPERML PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF PEERS. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 29. ...Tut further hearing of Counsel relative to , the Appeal, M'Lean v. Bethune and others, was postpaid.. The various Bills before the House were for warded in -their several stages.—Among these .were the Irish Qualifying divinity Bill; the Irish Corn Bill; and.the 'rah Ship Pro tedion Bill, which were read a third time and passed. LOrd WALSINGHA wt moved, that the Order of the Day for taking into ernaideration the.Standing.OrderNo. t261-be discharged, whikh was doh accordingly His , Lordship then moved that The above, together with the Standing Onlei Vo. i 54, be token into consideration on Friday, and that the Lords be summoned thereupon, Ordered. . Mr. ActxANDER nnd others, brought up from the' Coin. mons the Tonnage Duties Bill, the Hides and Leather Duty, the two Excise Duties 13ills, and the Militia Officers Augmentation Bills. STANtk.v presented the Blackburne . Afatket and Paving Bill, and one Private Ae was brought'up by. Mr. CAurwascur._ • These Bills were severally.read a first time. - The Militia °Ricers Augmentation Bill was ordered to be printed, after which their Lorddiips adjourned tilt to-morrow. ROUSE OF COMMONS, WEDNbSDAY, JUNE 29. Mr. SOMERS CoX presented a Petition from the Hop-Planters of Worcestershire against the use of substitutes for Hops in the brewing of Beer, parti cularly of Quassia. The Petition was ordered to lie on the. Table. Sir WM. SCOTT brought up the Clergy Residence Bill,, which was re:td a fitst and - second time, and committed. The Report was brought up, and the, Bill was ordered to 6e printed, n.d the Report was ordered to be taken into further consideration on Friday next, A Message was received front the Lords,-stating that their Lordships had agreed to the Irish Ship Burning Bill, the English and Irish Corn Exporta tion Bill, the:lrish Militia transfer Bill, and *eve 'rat Private Bills. The Southern Whale Fishery Bill was read a third time' and passed, The Order of the Day being read fur the third reading of the Woollen Clothiers' Bill, Mr. Benov,x opposed it, and after stating se. venal objettiims to the Bill, concluded with mov ing that the third reading should he'deferred for three . months. A conversation of some length ensued between Mr. BuRLAND, NIr:DICKINSO,N, jun. Mr., WIL. .istarCtitCe, and Admiral BEgKELF.Y4—: • WILBLEROOkCE ,said, as there were portant, subjects which stood 'for consideration that night, upon. which the safety of the Country depended, ha should move to adjourn the Debate till Friday. Sir Roaggr BUXTON, observed, that the Landed Property stood for consideration on that day.- THe CiIANtELLOR of the EXCIIEQUER itwas hisintention so move to consolidate the: Landed and the Personal Property Bill he hoped the House ,would permit them to go into a Coot. Mittee fro firma on Friday,-'for the purpose of malting some slight alterations which he inf.anr to propose, it being understood that they were to be printed, and undergo a :full investigation. The third reading of the Woollen Bill was then deferred till Friday.. . • The Order of the Day for the further ccnsidera. tion. of the Report of the Army of Reserve Bill was then read. The SECRETARY at WAR'said, he bath some verbal alterations to make in the Bill, which could be more convenieorly done in a Committee .; he should rherefore..nme that the Bashoull be re.. : he should, after the. Bill had gone thrtmgh the Committee, propane that the Report sb“tild be receiv.cl t night, and Out the Bill should I e tead a shird tiro to.morrow, He und e rs t ood that some Gentlemen intende,l t s otf-r their obser. Natioi,s ors the . principle of the Bill, and he'heggc leave to stl ,6 gc., ;11vm that it might be more COriVeDitAlt tiLet the objeztions to the principle of the Bill should be made on the third reading of the Bill to.tnorrow, chan,on the Report to.night. shier tcw workla from Colonel Ckistrsioitp and Galeral GAscoy . Lie,. it appeared to be undergtood tr,at' the discussion on the principle of the Bill was to take el ice no the third wading to.morrow. The ;louse having resolved itself into a COM. SECRET 1219 /1 dr at WeR then proceeded , to pr,Tase his Am,...ndm , :nr , ,, many or which , were met. :y verbal. in the Clause which empowered eat Deputy Lleuteilant to regulate the number of men to be raised by the Hundred, he proposed •In Aannitnent, the purport of which was, that in rhalting these Regulations, due regard should be had to the number of Volunteers raised by the Hundred, which was adopted. He also proposed, among the exemptions granted to Volunteer Corps, to insert the Honourable the Artillery Company of London, which was ogre , d Mr. o'. WYNNR observed, that he thought there was something unfair in the plan adopted re t; cling the accepting of the services of Volunteer Corps. Some tine agcy GOVerfiniera intimated' their Intention of accepting offers of serYiee from Volun. tear Corps. In consequence of that intimation, se. 'mat offers of service had been made, *woe of which bad been accepted, and to others no answer had yet been given. He thought that all those Corps that offered their cervices tTon the invitation of Go. vernment, and upon the terms that they should be exempt from ballots, were now entitled to those ex. :mprions, provided their offer of service was pre. %iota to the aid of June, and he accordingly pro posed an Amendment to that Oita. The CIIii4YOULOR of the EXCHEQUELt ciid, it was unnecessary to repeat the arguments svh 1 ,1 had been urged to hew the impropriety of extending the exemptions beyond those who 1) iOtually, be eenrolled bairn., the zzd of June. In Voint of fad, the oilers of service were so nurse. roue, that if they hail alt been accepted, the number of ex , mptions would have been enormous, and would have consNuently thrown a great additional burthen upon other persons. It was to avoid t hrer.vi g this additional hurthen upon the people, m any of those offers were not accepted, till pleisure of Parliament was known upon the )9jtct. He therefge hoped that the Cnii - atittee Q u id adheic to its former Resolutions on this ~cl.)je4. Dr. LAWRENCE supported the Amendment which had been propsed, and'. said it would be hard if those Corps who had; upon the invitation of Government, made offers of service upon the terms held out by Government, should now have their services accepted upon very different and less advantageous terms. The C triNCELLOR of the, - EXCHEQUER denied that any offer of exemption from the present Levy was held out when the offer was made a) accept the services of Volunteer Corps, because, in point of Tad; this measure was' not then altogether in contemplation. s . General GASCOY NE disapproved of the Amend. tbent, and said, that instead of extending tlte ex. emPtions; he should wish to see them 'narrowed. Sir 1L':11. GE dRY stated the case of some per sons belonging to a Corps under his command who had offered their services before the time limited by this Bill, though in fad' they had not been regu. lady enrolled. Mr. P said; that in his opinion, jsettions whose services had been accepted since this mea sure had been announced, were not entitled 'to exemption, more especially as the limitation . had been extended to the 22d of June, instead of the 16th, which was,originally proposed. Ile did not set, threfore any ground that could he urged for the exemption of those -who had not :been en. rolled previous to the 2zd of June. The, zeal of the Hon. Baronet for the Corps order his command, did him great honour, bUt he was sure he would 111 V wish to extend exemptions in a way that would be produaive of great iticonveoience. He could not believe that any persons entered into Valunteer Corps . to save tbehiselVes lion 'The effect of this ballot, on the contrary, lie was sure that the same spirit which lesi them to make an offer of their per. aonal service, would induce them ao contribute in every other way to the raising of a Force necessary for the Security of the Kingdom. If the Muse . were to go on and give way to all the applications which might be made, and to keep adding, one by one, to the Catalogue of Exemptions, they would narrow the means of obtaining a large regular and trained Force s He did not mean that the establish ment of such a force would render the Volunteers unnecessary, but they would be necessary to form a point round which the others' might rally. lie hoped that offers of Volunteer Service would come,. in to a very great extent. He hoped they would now be invited to offer their services . and in obey. ins that call, he was sure they would be 'aduated by that . feeling Which Must govern-the .breast of every Englishman, ,and not, by any view to ex 'emotion. There was no man in the -kingdom less inclined to undervalue the Services of the Volunteers than he was ; they were, under Providence, some time ago the great instrument of the salvation of this Country. Alarge proportion of Volunteers,' with less of Regular Military force, , would 'be suf. fieient to 'guard against internal- danger, but to meet a foreign enemy s they must necessarily aa With a large trained Army. He Was, inclined 'to hope that if any exemptions were - to be- given in fume, it would not be- till after the general ballot Was over. It might then be ,advisable to exempt them from the ballots upon a smaller scale, which would be necessary to, fall up deficiencies ; and even that exemption lie hoped would not be given with, out , an engagement more stria than those which were now entered into, and that the petin3.4tlest • service should be defined; not that he 'worm:led ac;, man would withdraw himself from . the. ,Voluntet while his services were necessary, but he thought it would be proper to provide that persons who had offered their , services should not be allowed to with. draw them, except upon change of residence, sick ness, or some other good eause. It was upon these grounds, and seeing that exemptions were spreading, that he thought it necessary to make these observa tions. With regard to the case sated by his Hon. !relation (Mh,. e) he thought • those Corps to whose,olfers of serVice,no answer had been returned, should not nosv be held to Those offers, hut that t h e y s h oh k; h e at linerty to make their Offer 'rgain. • The CI st.liCk.'44,o/Z :of the EXCHEQUeI: said, he perfectly concurred in the prOpriety ,6r what had talleo from his Right lion. Friend. He was of opinion that those Corps alhided to should not be held to their former offers of services that'. an opportunity should be given , to them to renew those offers 'if they thought proper, but without the smallest imputation upon them if they should nut think it right to renew their therm, sli rt conversation then took place respeaing the exaa terms upon which exemption was tratited to Volunteer Corps. The SE4RET4RY at said, 'lle exemp. lions wete elk follows..—First, with regard to the Corps; that they extended to those Corps whose set'. vices had been regulatly accepted by His Majesty before the 3;d of June ; with regard to individuals, he proposed that they should extend to those who had offered their services, and had been accepted and eitoally enrolled before the It.o of June ; which was agreed to. The Secairaoty at Witt took an opportunity of giving notice, that he should very soon move for leave to bring in- a Bill to make some regula, tions respecting Volunteer and Yeomanry Corps, and for the purpose of billetting them, &r. Mr. STURGES said, he did not think that those who offered their services in case of invasion were entitled to exemption, because in case of in.. vasion the King .could by law command the ser. vices of every man. The SECRETARY at WAR proposed to insert the words, ' Invasion, or appearance of Invasion.' lie also observed, that although he was 6urc in case of Invasion, the Volunteers would be anxious to be led forward to meet ,the Eneray, yet it vyoul , l be selTicient if those, particularly in large Towns, would ' form the garrisons of those towns, becale se if the Volunteers were marched our, k would be necessary to rep Lice them with other Troops. amend TARLETON said, the Volunteers would be of the most essential service in the way all u ded' to by the SecrAary at War, because s it would enable Majesty to employ the •whole of the 'Regular and Militia force against the Enemy. :14e SEC R ET/1/(Y at WAR observed, that it was necessary to mark distinctly that the men raised by virtue of this Aft, and drafted into a n y of t h e old Ile r,menu should not be sent out of the limits 4 ofltre service prescribed by the Aa, unicss they chose to volunteer.' }lt therefore proposed an Amendment, to the circa that His Mojesty should be empowered to draft -Clem into any existing Re. giments appointed to serve within the prescribed limits, Col. Canwroan urged the necessity of filling up the Regimenrs- of the Line. The SECRETARY at WAR observed, that these .men could only be placed 41 Regiments whose ser vices were limited Gieat Britain and Ireland, Guernsey and jersey. 'Mr. SH ERMAN objened to any question . being put tO men thus disposed of, as to whether they were willing to volunteer for general service. Mr. PITT said, it was, necessary that it should be distinftly understood- that whilst any Regiments remained, of which any of the persons enrolled der this Aft for limited service formed a part, those, Regiments could not be sent upon general service. wished, however, that in case His Majesty wantel any of those Regiments for general service, that His Majesty might have the option of either taking out from such Regiments the regular Soldiers, and placing them in another, or taking out the new levies. Perhaps it was better to complete our home defence, in preference to having any foreign force, anti if so it would be perhaps better to till up all the. Regiments of the Line, even at the • risk of ehaining•thein down to limited service for a certain time. fit was justified in supposing that rileliSUreS Wotliti shortly be brought forward for the better Recruiting of the Regular.Ser vice. Recruiting was not neeessarily impeded by the continuance of a bailor, as experience had shewn, and particularly with respert to the Guards and 'the Cavalry, the latter of which he did not think was at the present moment proportionably adequate to the number of our Infantry. He had the most sanguine hopes that by thus augmenting our force, the foundation wield be laid for the most vigorous efforts abroad, by which be hoped, after repelling the immediate attempts of the, Enemy, that we should make that return which the presumption of that Enemy de served. In reference to what he had at first men tioned, he wished an Amendment to be made to enable His Majesty to remove the men raised under this . ACt from one Regiment or Battalion to another. The CHANCELLOR I:1 the EXCHEQUER stated, that,measures .had been taken within the last twenry.four hours, for the more effectually re. Cruiting the two Branches of the Army alluded to by his Right Hun. Friend, namely the Guards and the Cavalry, and that the Recruiting for general service. was now gpin on with more success than for many months pat. • After some observations from Col. CttAwroeD, Mr. YitAttltt.Al4o, General TAitt.STot4, Dr. LAW. RUM: a . and G e neral GMCOVNE, MrAIIeRIDAN ' repeated his objeflion to any quebtinnteing put to persons enrolled under this Ad; as to whether they were willing to enlist for general service. Mr. Pt*, on the contrary, thonght it would be the best way to have fixed days of • muster, on which the Comtionding Officer should propose, at the head of the Regiment, that those who were willing to volunteer forgeneral service should" dome forward. The Amendment proposed by the SVC& ITA/tY at Wmt, as well as an Amendment to the tett pro. pi:sed-hy Mr. PITT, were theta agreed to. On the subjtet of enabling the men to be raised, under this PAH - to enlist into the line, a long con. versation tank place, which was supported by Mr. , PITT, Mr. SIIIMIDAV, Mr. STuacttr, General GA4COI/14K, ME. BILAGGIi, the SECIIIITARY at WAR, and many 'other MemSers.—Colonel WELLESIAY :wished the Clause to express the Royal Regiosent of Artillery, whi.x. produced a very long conversation between the *drive Kin. Gentlemen and many others, which, terminated on thc CHANCtLI.OIt the EXCiI FQ,VER intimating a wish that His Ma. jecty', Power to accept of the voluntary services of thesewen might remAin unfeiterzil by any specific ivords, that the liberty of enli,ting into his Ma. j ,, ty's service in the line should be general, and that there should be a perfect understanding, that the leave of enlisting under the Bill, should extend to.that of going into the 'Royal Regiment of Ar. cillery. The Hon. Captain Cocoa ANN advised the House to be very caretul not to overtook the Marines, a body of men without whose aid it was impossible tor this Country to exist in securitY, and he wished the number of men constituting that part of our force, to be much increased. Several Clauses were brought up by the SECRV I . TARY at WAR, providing for the mode c 4 raising men in the Cinque Ports, and the Tower Hamlets, and for various other 'purposes, which were all, agreed to; after which the Committee Went through the Bill.—The Report was received immediately. The SECA START at WAR ohseried, that after the long and minute consideration this Bill had re ceived, and after thevonvietion of, the House had. been expressed, as indeed the Country felt, that dispatch was an essential part of this plan, the House would, he hoped, think it proper to agree at once to all the Amendment, made to the Bill in the COM. mit tee, and (mkt that the Bill be engrossed. The amendMents were agreed to, and it was ordered that the Bill be read a third time to. morrow, it, then engrossed. The farther consitieration of the Scots additional Army Bill,was deferred till to.morroW," on the mo. tion of the SCRItTARY at WAR. Mr. N. BROWNE moved the Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of a Supply to be granted to His Majesty; mitich being read, he moved, that the third report of the Committee on the Survey of the Highlands of Scot LA. be referred to a Committee of the whOle House. Ordered. The. HOObe having resolved itself into the said nminittee,` Mr. 1!. BROWNE said, that after the very long, •arduous, arid 'important discussion which hdd already occupied the attention of the House, he should not trespass tediously or unnecessarily upon their patience, hut should as shortly as possible call their attention to the objets of the Motion he intended to have the honour of submitting to the Committee: fur however im portant the subjeet. of ?reparation for public de. feric . e, anal tun; t itopist fan the social;-;:lot' it wi:i:'-:..,...,.. t 1.. , should not sopersede the necessity of a t , eao)) to the internal improverneeti of the Country; esla:jel '....` those improvements which had tic strongeict tea.. dency to cultivate and preserv; the strerigilt, th. resources, and wealth, of the Country. - Airz,ety lel, the HOuse voted to His Majesty'a disposal a s , eal al 10,0001.. for the purpose of opening roads, a nd etc 4. tog bridges in the highlan ds of Scotland, er,d thereby (acilitating the intercourse, impto 6o l; th', agriculture, aiding the fisheries, and npeoieg Wen for imptovement in the manufitetures, commerce, and wealth of char important part of :he United , Kingdom, from which this Empire derived so naielt (I of its strength, and from whence so m an y invinei• ' 1 ble regiments were from time to time drawn for the defence of the Country. The measure which he had now to propose was to followp u the former , : and which was nut only of the utmost i m p ortance 10 that part of Great Britain, but to the conunerce Di every part of the Uniteti Empire—lteland as well as this Island. From the - Third Rep ort of that Committee upon the- Highland Survey, of which he had the honour to be Chairman, and which Ite• port was now upon the Table, the Committee Was already apprised that the project to which he Allud• eti, was the opening of a Navigable Canal scross,the Highlands of Scotland, from the Eas tern to the Western Sea. The r rojed at first might appear tw i t only arduoui, bet unpraCricable ; but .it apitear e " ) upon a minute survey, that though the trust through which this Canal was intended to pas' s ...vas extietse - . ly mountainous ail , yet there was' a chain Of J . v 2 l.t ley s to favour the operation, and those con tai t qlro A o n ti a f ie v th i l t i e: e n ti a:v g f ig s a 9 tio n i l t il f e ro s m ( w se h a kt to l seal ,2 1 97n b li e le ti s i D efel%akteent r i which were of unfathomable depth, and capable °' the largest ships in the' Navy, of FAT land. The. remaining line to be artificielly cut was but eof miles, which it was proposed to makable feet deep, and' of a proportionate width , navig for ships of war. This work, in i ts o p eratin, would he attended with much less difficulty'an,4 with infinitely less expense in proportio n, than they Royal Jundipn, and many other Canals , cot through different parts of this country ; for t h e higk- it tpoint of land through which this Cut was rnP o be made, was but 100 feet above the le vel of the sea at high water. The advantages of thisfi le 'r . sure, when completed, would not o n ly' he of ;itt''. culable benefit to that part of the United Kingaun but of the utmost importance to. the coinmerCe.a, navalpperations of the Empire. It would not l u i ensure, without-risk or uncertainty, the, passa.VA the whole Baltic and North Sea trade to the -",." Channel in seven days, during the summer mono': which by the.resent dangerous navigetion, NW! by the Shetland and Orkney Islands, eannns be effeCted -in less than a fortnigh t or three . weeks; and in the stormy months , i n twelve der 14 . at farthest, that conveyance which, by th e!,,, navigation, can rarely be effefted i n l ess thy' u'reti, months, and this with the most imminent ri,k, ant{ frequently immense loss, not only of 'able ships and cargoes, but of the invaluable lives ~.. able British Seamen ; and upon the inost ac‘-,_, rate' calculation which could he mule, the who . lc, hisses would not exceed the a mount cf tne,, 'ath'es by shipwreck on , the average of the 10! five. years. A pro j e a..• s uch- as tltta . . oehiata.r only would enable ' ibis Country to catty on, wi th little or no risk, and with such Certain and extrse.: ordinary celerity, a commerce ampunts:. tofosie osillioas annually, d an_ which would. also. re. cure such important expedition to our naval or . lions far the defence of the Eaipire, by opening which now across the Island, from East to West, a reads s't! and rapid channel fur, our naval squadrons,. ~ Of such high national importance, as Pidoef," him to rely upon the prompt concurrence of ~.2 Committee i n the Notion he luta been coeVet... a Chairman • of a Stied Committee, o 0?0, 4 namely, that a sum not exceeding vOOO. tl, granted to His Majesty for the purpose of open": the said Navigation by the way ofFort Inverness. The Motion was agre to Willi atu a n0tt.,04.• and ordered to be reported tomorrow. Further Committee of Supply on Friday. The Irish Duties. Bill was read a second time. On the question for committi n g it, of Mr. HUTCH/Lk:SON asked the CoaaCet.aott , ‘ the EXCHIQUER for Ireland, whether ally (14/ tional Duty was imposed on Salt in this case . Mr. Coital said, there wail riot. The Bill was • then ordered to be committed t° a Committee of the whole House. a c .O oni n m re l a t d ic i e ng of th z e h O e r‘dvehroloefitihoeupeay for going into I Bill , Afr. HUTCH I AISO' N took occ ' a ° si n on tli t c o S b altPse: ; t n. '- that the A S R of was nor passed with i n-e tiOn that the business of Ireland should he fringe A, eeied - in the House when the Benches were "Wl' '' and expressed a wish far a fuller a t t endance in es I rag than he had observed on these ncce sioos. Mr. cosßy Answered All. the o h 4 ervat l on s the Hon. Gentlemtn, and assured Lite there had Vel , no intention in any quarter to negled the " lE ' irli, Ireland in that House, but that the mollusc assidull had been employed in the management of them; II? with regard to the House being sometimes the fly attended, it was not peculiar to t h e a f fairs of J r !: . . land,. for that millions of money were sated on or : service of England in the House when t hinly A t ; tended, not because Members Were indiarent beet' te Public business for England or Ireland, but bel'l, when once they were c onvinced of the proprieq ` ii the principle of a measure , th e y did notthin'' ~ necessary to discuss or to attend toall the Ida f ' l ; of its detail, and indeed it wou ld be imptaai" . r . if it were otherwise. Subjeds. were disco'se d ' . . those stages which called for discussion, and wh!;: was over the detail proceeded upon the ptinc i l,,' which had - been decided in that discussion, and ', Was fully satisfied that none of the effairs'of I le a "' or of England had been neglected in that respe_ci ~i . , 1 He then explained the s ubject mitt: , before the i-O_n ic tnit tee, and concluded-with enforcing the roil"' 1 arts •! . . After a few wards esolscil , Hui-cut tutor And Mrg , 'Olt it 'e, the House r ' , i _ ii itself into a Committee of ,the whole Home, "il, ' i House betti t the Resolutions were. passed, and the j . I A reCOVL t‘'' resumed, the Report Watt ()piece(' t 0 0 - in exis;anatiao„ from Mr. i morrow. I