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'‘b ^.o `~ \ ,TIANKRUPTS CHARLES JOHN DEZ , VAL LE, bill broker, Peckham-grove, Comberwell. THOMAS DODD the younA.'r, plumber, Finching-field, Essex. JOHK PEART BIRL EY, pbmber, Luton, Bedfordshire. WILLIAM HENRY ALEXANDER and CHARLES BOL TON RICHARDS, hardwaremen, U i .ner Clifton-street, Finsbury. JOHN HAYES, builder, Little B a r t , t mlomew-close. ' THOMAS WILLIAM WILLOWS, ti:hmonger, Fleet-street. GEORGE COLLINS and EDWARD DORSET, New•gate market, butchers. JOHN LLOYD, builder, Liverpool. JOHN SIMPSON, publican, Manchester. COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-(THIS DAYS) Amsterdam C.F. 12 M..; Leghorn Ditto, at sight Rotterdam ') U. 12 ti lti!an... 17% 25 00 Antwerp l2. 5 Venice . 47 Hamburg M.B. 13 14 Naples 4 0 ,4 Altana Paris, 3 days' sight 25 CO Lisbon 5B Ditto ....... .............:5 Us. '2.5 94 Oporto 58% Marseilles. Frank fort on Maine, Ex. NI. 1.'4 Bahia 26 ro.terslangh, ruble 3 UP. Ii) 0 Buenos Acres - - Bcrltti Vie.tila, effective 11....... M. In 14 Cork l!.‘ Trieste ditto lO 11 Madrid... 'l6;i PRICE OF BULLION, PEA OZ Cadiz Bilboa ' , 6L4 Foreign Gold, in bars 317 10% Barcelona ... `6!,,,: New Doubloons Seville 'l;x, New Dollars Gibraltar IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, HnUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the chair at the usual hour. M essrs . W es t an d Hamilton were then introduced as Members for Dublin ; the former by Lords Cole and Lin coln—the latter by Sir R. Bateson and Colonel Perceval. They were received with choers by the Tory party. After being sworn, they took their h -cats on the front of the Op position Bench. The affair see.aled to cause a considerable ferment among the old Orange pa.'ty. A sort of levee was held behind the chair—all the wrular old Tories being anxious to congratulate the Hon. Me;uhers. Mr. V. STUART brought up the report of the Com mittee on the Lynn Navigation Bill. - Mr. M. PHILIPS presented a petition from the Fire and Life Assurance Company of Manchester, praying for leave to bring in a Bill to enable them to sue .cud be sued in the name of their Secretary. Mr. CLAY presented a petition from an individual against the Eastern Counties Railway Bill, and also a petition from St. Anne's, Middlesex, against the London and Blackwall Railway Bill. _ _ . Mr. BAINES presented a petition from the bankers and merchants of Leeds signed by upwards of .500 sub scribers in favour of the Leeds and Manchester Railway Bill. On the motion of Mr. LYNCH the Galway Improve ment Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be com mitted. CARLISLE DOCKS BILL. On the motion of Mr. P. HOWARD, this Bill was read a second time. • YORK AND NORTH MIDLAND RAILWAY. Sir G. STRICKLAND presented a petition from liVolzefield in favour of this Railway ; also a similar petition from Wettenall., Mr, WM. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from Melton to the same effect. NEWCASTLEand NORTH-SHIELDS RAILWAY. Mr. G. F. YOUNG presented a petition from Teign mouth, praying that this Biil•might not pass into a law. DROGHEDA RAILWAY. Mr, M. O'CONNELL presented a petition from New church, in favour of this Bill, and a petition from Dunboyne against it. SOUTH DURHAM RAILWAY. Mr. A. T.t3.SVOR presented a petition from the Mar quis of Londondet . .ry, praying to be heard by counsel against this Bill. SIDMOU'IIi HARBOUR BILL. On the motion of Sir J. Y. BULLER this Bill was read a second time. NEWPORT HARBOUR BILL. Mr. W. MILES presented a petition from the Mayor, Aldermen, &c., of Bristol, against the Newport Harbour }'ill.—Referred to the Committee. DUTY ON SUGAR. Lord W. BENTINCK presented apetition from the East india Company in favour of the equalization of the duties tin sugar. POOR LAWS (IRELAND). Mr.. S. CRAWFORD, in presenting a petition from the inhabit ants of Irishtown, Sandymdunt, and Donnybrook, county of Dublin, said this petition stated the wretched con- , dition both of the helpless and the unemployed poor of Ire land, and that in the opinion of petitionerd no remedy could be obtained except in a judicious system of poor laws, founded on the parental principle of the 43d of Elizabeth. He con curred entirely in the prayer of this petition. The subject had of late been repeatedly debated, he would not, there- . fore, trespass with any argument at present, in the hope that it would speedily come before the House in a more sub stantial form. He would only say that every day the appli cation of this measure was delayed, a fresh accumulation of of evil was taking place, and increased difficulties created, in forming beneficial enactments for the relief of the popu lation. The Hon. Member then presented a petition from the inimbitants of Headford, in the county of Galway, stating the grievance of the tithe assessment. The' peti tioners also stated that they were determined to use all means in their power without violating the laws, to relieve themselves from the burthen, and praying the House to put an end for ever to a system which had created so much evil ; also a petition from Clonmany, county of Donegal, stating that the Compulsory Composition Act, commonly called Lord Stanley's Act, by permitting a combination of rent and tithe, had destroyed the good feeling which formerly united landlord and tenant, by placing landlords in the po sition of proctors to the clergy, and praying the House to annihilate the blood-stained impost for ever. To this alle gation he especially directed the attention of English Members at this particular time, when they were in danger of involving the people and the landlords of England in a similar position. SABBATH OBSERVANCE. Mr. W. PATTEN presented petitions from places in Lancashire and Cheshire, in favour of a Bill for the better observance of the Lords' Day. Col. H. D. BAILLIE presented a petition to the same effect. TITHES (IRELAND.) Mr. J. D. JACKSON presented a petition from seve ral Noblemen and Gentlemen lay proprietors and lessees of tithes in Ireland, praying to r be heard by Counsel, in defence of their vested interests, which they apprehend will be damaged by a Bill now in progress through Parliament. The petitioners were possessed of property to the amount of 27,000/. per annum. They state that they and their ancestors were seized of lay tithes for a series of years — that in the purchase of lands, and in the lettinc , thereof in tenements, the value of the tithes has been taken into con sideration in determining the amount of the purchase-money —that they have already made considerable sacrifices of property in coming in under the Tithe Commutation Bill— and that more than one-half of the tithes had been paid by the owners of the fee in Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) — The petition was signed by the Marquisses of Downshire a id Westmeath, and by the Earl of Donoughmore, and se veral Janded proprietors of great respectability. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman also presented two petitions in fa vour of a Bill for the better observance of the Lord's Day —also a petition from an individual whose rights would be affected by the passing of the Bill respecting the Manor Courts of Ireland. SABBATH OBSERVANCE. Mr. KNOX presented a petition from Dungarvon, in favour of the Bill for the better observance of the Lords' Day. FISHERIES.—SCOTLAND._ Lord JAMES STUART presented a petition on the subject of the Fisheries of Scotland, which was referred to the Select Committee. Also a petition from Ayr, praying for the reduction of the Spirit Licenses ; and two other pei;:tions, the prayer of which was not heard in the Gallery. LAW OF PATENTS. An Hon. MEMBER presented a petition from the non : manufacturers of Wilts, complaining of the present Law of Patents. SABBATH t-.).I:I.3SERVANCE. Col. VERNER presented a netition from a parish in Armagh, praying for the better otser<nce of the Sabbath. Also, a petition from another parish in the same county, praying that in case of a Poor Law being passed for land, they might not be burdened with the support oflre the Poor of the city of Armagh. ~ .~ t the danger of a collision, by standing as me diators between the antagonistic principles of here ditary and representative legislation—between the old and new order of things—between oligarchic domination, based on injustice on one side, and igno rance on the other, and popular governinent,•founded on equality of rights and the universality of justice and intelligence. Lord Lansdowne did as became a Li beral Minister who understood his position ; he was unmoved by the envenomed assaults of faction, and with a dignity worthy of the Minister of a free peo ple, informed their Lordships that he proceeded with ibe Bill out of deference to the other House of Par liament, and for the purpose of affording the reprcsen tatitcs of the people an o pportunity of considering if they could recognise or identify the Bill as the Bill they had sent up. As his Lordship stated, the principles and details of the Bill have been changed, and it now rests with the House of Commons to mark their sense of the fraud and insult which the irresponsible and insensate birthright Senators have practised on the representatives of the people. It u nnecessary here to enumerate the various wr oncis against the people purposed to be perpetra ted by this In a word, all the evils of the present s ystem are to' be preserved or aggravated, and every tendency to pop ular good is to be destroyed. The Orange freemen are to retain their right of voting for Members of Parliame it, but Commissioners are to be appointed by, and to act under the direction of, the Lord Lieutenant, and who are .to have full and perfect controul over the prcperty and revenue of the Corporations, with powers to bring and defend actions, and sell, mortgage, lease, and manage reve nues, and appropriate public buildings, make com pensation to corporate officers, and usurp the whole patronage and government of all the Loroughs. of Ire land. A more daring and despotic proLeeLjtig was never attempted against the liberties of any people possessing the semblance of free institutions. The LOrds appear resolved to rush on their own destruction. The Ministry may for a while stand between the Lords and the Commons, - .the Commons between the Lords and the people, and thus extreme mea sures may for a short time be deferred ; but unless the Lords themselves speedily retrace their steps, and c onform to the spirit of the age, neither Ministry nor Con2mons can protect them against the power which their i.liustice, fatuity, and tyranny must evoke. It is useless . discuss the demerits of the Corporation Abo lition Bili ; they stand in too prominent and infamous relief to need commentary ; but there is now a principle involved moire vital if possible than that of popular controul in monicipal institutions ; the principle of re presentative g overnment is assailed, and if it be not asserted and vindicated by those to whom the trust is confided—by the Members of the House of Commons —the people must interfere in their ovvii defence, and enforce their rights, or submit to see the groliDd which they have gained by so many sacrifices within the last -four years, again occupied by the enemy whom have vanquished, and a contest prolonged with most injurious consequences to public tranquillity, public confidence, and public prosperity. If the Lords per severe in their present course their fate may be told in a few words—The Lords are lost !—Morning. Advertiser. SECOND EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. VIE LONDON GAZETTE THIS EVENING. S. f. JAMES'S PALACE, MAY 13. The King has lx'en pleased, on the nomination of Lord Foley, to appoint Francis henry Talman, Esq., Master of Arts, Oxford, and of Beckenham, K, , nt, one of his Majesty's Honourable Corps of Gentlemen at Arms, v2ce Thomas Reeve, resigned. (From the Dublin gazette of Tuesday, May 10.) DUBLIN-CASTLE , MAT 7. His Majesty'sletter patent has passed the Great Seal, appointing the Right Hon. Lord Plunket, Lori! High Chancellor of Ireland; the Most Reverend Father in God Ri t ,hard Archbishop of Dublin ; and the Right Hon. Major-General Sir Award Blakeney, K.C.B. Commanding the Forces in Ireland ; Lords Justices of Ireland. WHITEHALL, MAY 11. The Lord Chancellor has appointed H. H. Statham, of Liver pool, in the county of Lancaster, Gent.; and W. Cruttenden, of Ashford, in the county of Kent, Gent., to be Masters Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. THOMAS TOVNES, saddler, New Bond-street. EDWARD STA' 7LES, oilman, Castle-street East, Oxford street ~~ ,~ H SUN oN Di) Vii, T ,J 'AY, MAY 17, 1536, TE , L DANISH CLAIMS. Mr. CLAY presented a petition of which he bad given notice from certain persons who had sustained losses by the seizure of their ships and property in Denmark in the year 1807.—(Hear, hear.) The petitioner complained that their losses were wholly occasioned by the Acts of the British Government, who had encouraged them to carry on a traffic with the Baltic, in contravention of the law of nations. The petitioners prayed for enquiry into their case, and trusted the House would afford them re dress.. The Hon. Member concluded by giving notice that on Tuesday the 31st of May, he should call the attention of the House to the subject matter of the petition, and and move that it be referred to a Select Committee. Mr. YOUNG had been requested to support the prayer of the petitice. He had previously given notice of his in tention, if no other Hon. Member would do so, of calling the attention of the House to the subject of the Danish claims, and he was glad to find that the subject had been taken up by the I-lon. Member for the Tower Hamlets. Mr. W. JONES and some other Hon. Members pre sented petitions in favour of the better observance of the Sabbath. Mr. A. TREVOR presented a petition from Stockton on-Tees, in favour of the Bill introduced by the Hon. Bart. (the Member for Wigtonshire) for the better obser- Mr.ce of the Sabbath. He (Mr. Trevor) felt it his duty to state that he could not give that Bill his support. Mr. T. WAKLEY presented a petition from Wake field, praying for the total repeal of the Stamp Duties on Newspapers, and praying the House to take steps for the release of all those persons now in - custody for selling uu stamped Newspapers. Mr. M. PHILIPS presented a petition from Thomas Potter and other Directors of some Company in Manches ter, against that part of the Consolidated Stamp Bill which abolishes composition, except with the Bank of England, and praying that no duty might be imposed upon the transfer of shares. _ Sir WM. FOLLETT presented a petition from an in dividual in Exeter, against the Registration of Births, Deaths, and Marriages' Bill, or if it was passed, that he might be appoio;.ed Registrar under it. Mr. ALSTON gave notice, that to-morrow be should move for an extension of the time for the Committee on the Blackwall Commercial, a;:d Northern Railways, to make their Report till the 6th of .76!:47. Mr. DUND AS presented a petition from York for the better observance of the Sabbath. SOAP v. STAMPS. Sir C. KNIGHTLEY wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, when he intended to bring forward the repeal of the stamp duties upon Newspapers, as he (Sir C. K.) had a motion to make in the way of an amendment to repeal the duty upon soap instead of the duty upon Newspapers. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER pro posed before the holidays to commit the Bill pro furled, say on Friday next ; but he would fix the discussion to come on between the Honourable Baronet and himself' for the first Friday after the holidays. On that day he would move that the House do resolve itself into a Committee upon the Excise Acts, as well as the Stamp Acts, in order, to give the Hon. Baronet an opportunity of moving his propositiob as a substantive one, and also to give him the most favourable opportunity of taking the opi nion of the Houk upon it. IRISH CORPORATION BILL. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL presented a petition from Dudley in favour of the Irish Municipal Corporation Bill. DUTY ON NEWSPAPERS. Mr. HAWES presented a petition for the total repeal of the duty on Newspapers ; also, a petition from the Churchwardens of Lambeth against the Turnpike Trust Consolidation Bill. JEWISH DISABILITIES. The HON. MEMBER then presented a petition from an individual, praying that no Bill with reference to the remo val of Jewish Disabilities, might pass into a law. The Hon. Member state] he could not concur in the prayer of the petition. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Sir, I rise to give notice that, on the Tuesday after the Holi days,'l shall move for leave to bring in a Bill to remove the civil disabilities affecting his Majesty's Jewish subjects. —( Hear, hear, hear.) Mr. WILBRAHAM presented a petition from a pa rish, Ole name of which we did not hear, complaining of injury 'to their right. of franchise, in consequence of the conduct of 1::e Revising Barristers under the Registry Bill. lie hoped the Attorney-General would take means to reme dy the evil in the new Act. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL.—If the Honourable Gentleman will introduce a clause, declaring that the Bar risters shall do no wrong ; and if he will undertake to make it effectual, lie will most decidedly have my sup port. But if he only declares by it that the Barristers Will not act in a particular way, and yet leave them to the exercise of their own judgment, I fear his object cannot be attained. NEWCASTLE AND NORTH SHIELDS RAIL- WAY. On the motion of an HON. ME MEER the further conside ration of the report of this Bill was proceeded with. Mr. YOUNG felt it his duty to move that the further progress of the Bill should be deferred till this day six months. Mr. BELL having had the conducting of the Bill, felt bound to state that this was a mere speculation the report from the Committee showed an expected profit of 33,000/. per annum.—(Hear, hear, hear.) The public would not suffer in the least from the tax on the carriage on coals, as it was a mere question between the shareholder and the ldndowner. The coals would be carried cheaper on this Railroad than On any other in Northumberland. He hoped the House would now -agree to consider of the Report. Colonel SIBTHORP opposed the Bill. Mr. CHAPMAN also opposed the 8111. Mr. INGHAM Supicorted'the Bill. Sir M. W. RIDLEY could fully explain the regulations of this Railroad. It had been an invariable custom from time immemorial in Northumberland, Durham, and the Teat coal districts, that the ooal owners were obliged r to come to some agreement with the landlords, to enable them to make railways for carrying coals over the land of the different individuals to the place of ship ment. They were obliged to make separate and distinct arrangements with every landlord. This railway would interfere with these agreements, which had been made for centuries, and the landowners, whose property was thus destroyed, felt that the proprietors of this railway were called upon in justice to make some compensation for carrying the coals on the public railway, and compelling the landowners to give up the advantages which they de rived from the private railways. This was the whole Mys tery of the opposition to this railway. The chief object of the Bill was to enable the coal-owners to convey their coal with greater facility than they had hitherto been able to do.—(Hear, hear.) He only wished that the House should be disabused on the subject before it came to a decision, After a observations from Mr, Bell and Mr. G. F. Young in explanation, strangers wore ordered to withdraw. The Gallery was then cleared for a division, when there appeared — For the original motion For the Amendment 3lajorit YORK AND Nown. MIDLAND RAILWAY. On the further consideration of this 13111 being moved, Mr. POTTER proposed a clause of which he had given notice, to the effect, that no • railway shall be made across any street or highway, or public bridle-way, or footpath on the level without the consent :n writing of some two justices of the peace for the county, acting for the division within which the street, &c., so t 9 be crossed shall be situate, After a few words from Mr. PARKER and Sir J. BECKETT, Mr. BAINES said the objectigns felt by the people of Leeds to the Bill, had been reillived in a great measure, and they had that day confirmed their favourable opinion of it by sending a petition, signed by 10,000 persons in favour of it, although the petition had boon .only three days exposed for signature, although Leeds would be subjected to all the inconveniences of which the people of S!ieffi?.ld had complained. He was glad to hear from his Hon. and Learned Friend that an arrangement satisfactory to all parties was in progress, and it would give to Sheffield the advantages which were sought for, and by which the traffic would not be diverted from the usual line. On the whole, he believed that no railway could be better con structed for the public good, and he was aura that none had ever received a more patient investigation. The clause was then agreed to. RAILROADS. - Mr. MORRISON, in rising to submit the motion re specting Railways with which he meant to conclude, said he wished that some Honourable Gentleman more able to do justice to the subject, had introduced it. He always fait the greatest reluctance in bringing himself to the notice of the House, and in claiming their indulgence on this occasion, he did so from the importance and magnitude of the interests which were involved in the subject he was about to submit to the House.—(Hear.) Honoura ble Members might differ from him upon this subject, (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY took his seat on the wool , sack at a few minutes to Four o'Clock. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. A Message from the Commons brought up the Clyde Navigation Bill, with the Lords' amendments, to which the Commons had agreed also the Dawlish and Teignmouth Road Bill, the British Alkali Company Bill, and the Duckenfield Waterworks Bill. The Bills on their Lordships' table were advanced a stage. PLURALITIES AND BENEFICES. On the motion of the Archbishop of CANTERBURY the Pluralities and Benefices Bill was read a third time and passed. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented a peti tion from Belfast, praying for the commutation of the punishment of death. The petition was signed by an in dividual with whom he understood the Noble E opposite (Mulgrave) was intimate during his tour into that part of the country ; and he was rather sur prised, knowing that the Noble Earl was about to proceed to attend his Parliamentory duties, that it had not been entrusted to him for presentation. The petition was signed by Finlay, proprietor of the Northern Whig, a gen tleman who, by his writings, had tended much t o se t that part of the country in a flame. tie begged to ask the Noble Earl whether that gentleman (Mr. Finlay) was not about to be appointed to a stamp office under the Noble Lord's patronage ? Earl MULGRAVE had no objection to answer the question of the Noble Earl. He might have 'seen the Gen tleinan to whom the Noble Lord alluded, but he had not the honour of being an intimate acquaintance of his, al though he had no doubt he was a very respectable man. With respect to his (Earl Mulgrave) having given Mr. Finlay a stamp office; he had not done so, and for this reason, although many others might perhaps be given, the place was not in his (Earl Muigrave's) gift.—(A laugh.) Lord LONDONDERRY, as we understood, would have an opportunity in the coars3 of the night's debate, of bringing the charges against the Noble Earl before their Lordships Bar. He could not place the least confidence in the Noble Loars Administration, and with respect to the case of .Mr. Gore Jones, to which he had on a former oc casion called th4ir Lordships attention, he must say that by the Noble Lords appointment in that case, he had grossly insulted the Magistrates of the County Down. Earl MULGRAVE was perfectly ready to enter upon his defence whenever the Noble Earl thought proper to bring the matter forward, and he trusted he should be able to discuss it with perfect temper, and with a recollection of the ancient terms of intimacy which had subsisted between himself and the Noble Earl. He complained of the want of courtesy in not giving him notice of the petition which he had presented on that•-subject.- 7 (The conversation here dropped). CHURCH DISCIPLINE. The Bishop of EXETER wished to ask the Noble add Learned Lord on the Woolsack whether or.not any measure mould be shortly brought under consideration on the sub ject of Ecclesiastical discipline. He had' himself felt the inconvenience of the present system, during the last two or three years, and he wished to know if any hope might be entertained of a speedy remedy. The LORD CHANCELLOR said the Bill for the Reform in the Ecclesiastical Courts had been postponed, so that it and the Bill about which the Right Rev. Prelate enquired, should be introduced and passed through the House together. He had this morning the draft. of the Bill in his hande, and lie could assure him as little time as possible would be allowed to elapse before its introduction. SABBATH OBSERVANCE. Petitions for the better Observance of the Lord's Day were presented by Lord ELLENBOROUGH, the Earl of Ro- DEN, and the Marquis of BUTE. VAN DIEMAN'S LAND. *The Marquis of CLANRICARDE presented a peti tion from the inhabitants of Van Dieman's Land, praying that some controul might be allowed them over the reve nues. raised in that colony. It was a subject well worthy the attention of their Lordships and of his Majesty's Minis ters. The petition was, however, withdrawn, for some in -formality. The Earl of ABERDEEN wished to correct a mistake which might lead to some misunderstanding on the subject of Canada. He alluded to a statement made in the other House of Parliament by the Under Secretary of the Colonies. The subject under discussion referred to the Legislative Council of Lower Canada, and it was stated in the public journals that the Hon. Baronet to whom he alluded men tioned, in the course of his speech, that the instructions given to Lord Gosford did not essentially differ from those given to Lord Amherst without denying that the instructions generally were couched in the same spirit, he felt bound to deny most strongly that upon the question of the Legislative Council they were en tirely different. Lord GLENELG was not aware what had taken place last night upon that particular question. He scarcely thought that his Hon. Friend the Under Secretary could have said that upon the point of the Legislative Council the Instructions were of the same nature ; upon that point there was a clear distinction. The Earl of WINCH I LSEA, in pursuance of the no tice he had before (-riven, now rose to present a pet i t i on from theF h'. Leigh, jun., ofH 'Eigst Sheriff of Wexford, a f ter havingq complaining of b e i ng , remove d from l been nominated to it approved of by the Lord Lieutenant. The petition having been read, the Noble Earl said it was with unfeigned regret, that from a sense of public duty he was obliged to bring the case of the petitioner before the House, It must be in their Lordships' recollec tion that he had brought the case before the House upon two former occasions. He mentioned that ,new in order to shew the Noble Earl whose conduct VIP cOTIVI4inpd that he had not gone out of his way in order to seek the present opportunity ; he bad received no satisfactory p 4 pj a , nation then, as the present notice of the case would not have been brought on. He had given those opportunities in order to see the Government state the public grounds upon which such an outrage had been committed upon the feelings of this gentleman, both public and private. The petitioner stated that from some source be collected tbat he had been removed on the ground of his being as Orangeman,—( Hear, hear, hear,) —he complained of that, for he most strongly denied that he belonged to that society. If such were the grounds of his _ removal, .and the Governors had founifout that they were in error, they ought in justice to the gentlemen to have taken either of the opportunities afforded them to have come forward and heal his wounded feelings. On loooking at the returns on the table he felt bound to call the .attention of the House to the unparalleled manner in which the Noble Earl at the head of the Irish Government had in terfered, most unconstitutionally, in the appointments of sheriffs in that county. He bad deviated in the most un constitutional manner from the invariable rule practised by his predecessors, viz., that of departing from the lists which were sent in by the Judges of the county. He could only state that he sincerely hoped the Noble Earl would be able to give a satisfactory explanation of the course he had thought proper to pursue, because he must maintain if no satisfactory explanation took place that the course that had been adopted by the Noble Earl was ono of a most ungracious and he had almost said of unconstitu tional oharaoter,-•a(Hear.) He denied that it was in the power of the Crown to make a selection for Sheriff without reference to the Judges ; this was not his indivi dual opinion, but it had been decided iti many eases ; in one with respect to Lincoln, a person who had heen appointed to serve as Sheriff by the King refused to do so, and upon the opinion of the Judges being taken, they were unanimously of opinion that the King in appointing a person as Sheriff' did an error,—(Hear.) It was true that since that period that opinion had been differed from, because, in the reign of Queen EliAabeth, when the Judges could not sit In Westminster Hall in consequence of the plague, the Queen nominated the Sheriffs herself. Unless, therefore, the Noble Earl could set aside all that had hitherto taken ' place on the election of Sheriffs, he must say that in his (114 1 11 Wincbilsea's) opinion he had exercised a most improper authority, especially when it was considered that the five persons named by . the Noble Earl were the decided supporters of his Majesty's present Government.—( Hear.) He did Bat mean to enter ipto the consideration of whether the Gentleman was a Member of the Orange Society or not, and he did not deny the authority that was vested in the Noble Earl, but he thought it was a a very extraordinary step to take, that gentleman having been once appointed to remove him from • an office, when at that time he had not been declared by the Crown, or any officer of the Crown to have been guilty of any offence. This question was one of great constitutional importance, and he hoped it would be in the Noble Earl's power •to afford a satisfactory elucidation of the different facts he had stated. The Earl of MU LGRAVE would commence by return ing thanks to the Noble Earl! for the very courteous manner in which he had brought the subject forward, The Noble Earl's observations separated themselves into two heads, Ist. w ith regard to the general lit of Sheriffs, and the selection Made from it by the Lord Lieutenant, and secondly, with regard to this particular case. He meant first of to say a few words on the general head, and upon this he would commence by stating that though the law was probably the same in the two countries, nothing could more distinctly differ than the practice of appointing the Sheriffs of London and Dub lin. The Sheriffs in :Ireland whre never appointed by any meeting of the Judges, or any persons representing the exe cutive. The first name on the list was always taken. He (LEFT SPEAKING.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 16. MUNICIPAL CORPORATION (IRELAND) BILL. In section 65, relative to recorders, Lord tYNDHURST said that in bringing up the re port he should introduce a provision for the purpose of giving recorders to the cities of Belfast and Londonderry. In clause 68, The Duke of RICHMOND said that, on the third reading, he should move the insertion of a clause to prevent recorders from havinc , a seat in Parliament. The LORD CH ANCELLOR said that he should support the Noble Duke's clause. After a few other verbal amendments, the Bill passed through Committee. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in fixing the report for to-morrow, and the third reading for Wednesday, said that he should move the third reading exclusively for the purpose of letting the other House of Parliament know bow their Lordships had dealt with this Bill. PLURALITIES OF BENEFICES BILL. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY brought up the report on this Bill, which, after a few observations from the Bishop of Exeter, was agreed to and received. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY presented several petitions from the West Riding of Yorkshire, praying for the repeal of certain clauses in the Factories Bill. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MAY 16. TRINITY HARBOUR. Sir E. CODRINGTON had attended the Committee closely, and although he had no interest in the matter, he was convinced that Leith was not the proper harbour, but that Trinity was. Sir GEORGE CLERK regretted that the Chancellor of the Exchequer was not in his place, because it was clear if the present Bill was to pass, and a harbour was to he constructed, the Bill that the Right Hon.. Gentle man intended to propose would be of no use whatever. He wished the Bill to be postponed for a. fortnight, not with a view of defeating it ultimately; but in order that there might be sufficient time for its consideration. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL merely wished to ob serve that notice had been given the earliest hour it was possible to give it. Mr. FRANCIS BARING denied that there had been any unnecessary delay on the part of the Government.—( Hear, hear, hear.) The. Government had acted throughout in the most conciliatory spirit. and it appeared to have produced good effects, as after much consideration; the parties were &Oaring to adopt the re port of-his Right Hon. Friend. As the subject would soon come under discussion, he ivould abstain from making any further observations - upon it at present. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. The House then divided : Ayes , 168 Noes ... l5 Majority in favour of the motion —ls3 MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A Message from the House of Peers announced that they had agreed to the Clyde Navigation Bill, and another Bill. • ABERDEEN SCHOOLS. Mr. BANNERMAN wished to call the attention of the House to the Report of the Committee on the Aberdeen Schools Bill.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped the House would excuse him for trespassing on their time ; but as the Representative of Aberdeen he felt it his duty to bring the circumstances under consideration, and he was bound to bring the verdict of the Jury, to whom the Bill was referred, under the notice of the House—a verdict which proved the vicious system of legislation which was at present adopted in Committees on private Bills. A discussion arose upon the second reading of the Bill, and upon that occasion he distinctly stated he was happy that his Hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen had op posed the principle, because the House would discuss its merits on the ground of principle. The House did accord ingly discuss it on this ground ; and it approved the principle of the Bill, by a majority of 46, leaving the clauses open to be canvassed in Committee, and, of course, both the clauses and principle open to discussion again on the third reading. There was no disputed fact before the Committee, and upon this point he would appeal to the Hon. Member for Har wich. When he ( Mr. Bannerman) spoke to that Hon. Member on the subject, he had no objection to the details of the Bill—he admitted the utility of the schools—but he was opposed to the Bill—(Hear, hear) on principle, because it contained a horrid appropriation clause.—(A laugh.) No sooner was one agitator got rid of than another started up from. Harwich, who also had a tail—(A laugh)—and pounced unmercifully upon the private affairs of the Bill.—(Much laughter.) It had been rejected by a majority of twelve to eight, and the people of Aberdeen were obliged to put up with that decision. He would now call the attention • of the House to some practices which in his opinion were very dis graceful to it. He alluded to the circumstance of Hon. Members coming into Committees, and, without hearing one syllable of the evidence, voting with the political party to which they were attached.—(Loud cries of " hear.") That system was well worthy the attention of the House, and was most derogatory to its dignity. It was a fact that the great majority of the Committee had made up their minds before they heard the evidence at A.—( Hear.) What he now asked of the House was what no ordinary tribunal would refuse him, a new trial.— (Hear, hear.) . He was aware that he might be told that he had his remedy by his petition, but at present there was no petition before it ; and as Chairman of the Com mittee, he bad been requested by the prorneters of the Bill to ask at the hands of the House justice. The Commit tee had decided that the preamble had not been proved, awl hp wqtlid almrtlY 049 to the 1-199 p that prearilhle wag, and the ovi(idre 4 -1 114 gen s4pnited. The liononrable Member then read the preamble of the and also the evidence, which he said hp we t yld lay before any lawyer's apprentice, who, he had no hesitation m saying, would pronounce that the preamble had been proved. He should therefore move that the Bill should be re-committed, and that the Commit tee should be instructed to re-consider its prayer. Mr. FERGUSSON, in seconding the motion of the Hon. Member, confessed himself as much surprised as he was in the decision come to by the Committee. Ciptain. GORDON thought the course pursued by the Hon. Member opposite was most extraordinary and unpre cedented. If the Hon. Member, had any personal complaint to make of any Member o f th e Committee, he might do so by an Appeal Committee, but he must say that the course pursued by the Honourable Member was most un precedented. His Honourable Friend was perfectly right in stating that he (Captain- Gordon) opposed the Bill on principle ; and because he did so, and it was carried against him on the second reading, was that any reason why he should not oppose it in Committee ? The evidence was before the House, which, lie contended, fully bore out the Committee in the course they had adopted. Mr. POULTER, tho Ugh he thought the motion extra ordinary, thought that it was occasioned by circumstances much more so. The Committee had overturned a solemn principle established upon the second reading of the Bill Although the • House of Commons had laid down a prin ciple, the Committee had thought proper to act in contra vention of that principle ; and in doing so he would say they had exercised a most unwarrantable discretion. Sir GEORGE CLARK said this certainly was a most extraordinary motion, but it was not without precedent, because a similar one had been made in a Railway ease a few evenings ago ; but the Honourable Member, from whom it emanated withdrew it from the feeling which pervaded the House, and be was not allowed to do so except upon the implied .understanding that it was not to be brought forward again. Now what was the objection to the decision of the Committee ? Why, this—that they voted upon principle. He (Sir G. Clerk) admitted that lie voted upon principle, and in doing so he maintained he acted in conformity with the regulations of the Hotise. There were a hundred other objects to which it would be more desirable to appropriate this fund, if any deviation from the .original object was to be sanctioned. There was no doubt but the schools could be supported by private subscriptions, and if so the Committee would not be justified in sanction ing such an application. Mr. BANNERMAN did not intend to accuse the members of the Committee with any improper motives. He only charged them with having acted under an error of judgment. With reference to the reasons put forward on behalf of the majority, that they disapproved of the prin ciple of the measure, he would only remark that in this they undertook to set aside the decision of the House. The SPEAKER said in his opinion there was no reason why the motion might not be made. Upon its expediency or inexpediency the House would judge; but according to the forms of Parliament it was quite competent for any Hon. Gentleman to make such a proposition - as was now under cOsideration. A..LEFROY—As a Meth of the Committee was guided in coming to a deeislon, by what it appea.zed to him to be the will of the testator ; and seeing that it was manifestly Dot his intention to have the. funds diverted to any such objects as those contemplated by the Bill, he felt bound to vote against the Bill, • Sir ANDREW L. HAY objected to the proceedings of the Committee, and trusted that the House would consent to the re-appointment of a Committee. Captain WEMYSS supported the motion. _ _ _ Mr. PRINGLE defied any man to come to any other determination upon the evidence than that which had been come to by the majority of the Committed. After a few words from Mr, GLADSTONE, which were inaudible from the loud odes of " Question" with which he was met, Mr. BONHAM would observe that, so far as the state mont of the Hon. Gentleman wont, with regard to the con versation he had had with him, it was substantially correct. He did state, that he considered it a public Bill of great importance—involving a very important and dangerous principle, which had been for the last two years strongly contested in,that House—the principle of appropriation ; and although he went determined to hear the evidence, he went also strongly opposed to the principle of appropriation, Mr. FOX MAULE rose amid cries of " Qumtion, question.." It was quite true that as a Member of the Government be camp down late in the discussion in 'the Committee, but, at the same time, he came down with a full possession of all the facts of the case. The reason of his being detained was, he could assure the House, his attention to business that could not be delayed. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. There appeared for the Originalmotioni l5B Against it Majority for the re-committal of the Bill ---51 The Bill was then sent back, for reconsideration, to the special Committee. On our return to the gallery, • Sir R. PEEL gave notice of a motion for some returns connected with the Irish Church Establishment, the object of which we could not distinctly bear. Mr. PEMBERTON wished to call the attention of the Noble Lord opposite to the delay of busineis in the Court of Chancery, and the great inconvenience which occurred to suitors and Counsel in consequence of the suspension of the ordinary course of proceedings. He begged to know how soon the public might, expect to see business again regu larly proceeded with in that Court ? Lord J. RUSSELL, who spoke in a low tone, was under stood to say that the delay arose from the contemplated legislative changes in the Court of Chancery, and that the Lord Chancellor was at present giving his best considera tion to the question how the measures to be adopted could be best made available 'to the various wants of the suitors and the interests of justice before they wore finally decided on and brought into active operation. Lord EBRINGTON wished to know what arrange ment had been made for bringing forward the Registration of Voters Bill, and what night the House might expect to have it before them ? , The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the arrange• ments were all but completed, so that he expected it might be before the House to-morrow at five o'clock. After some further observations as to the probable interposition of other business which would take precedence, the Hon. Gentleman stated that it would most probably be brought forward on Friday next. Mr. MACLgAN inquired when the Abolition of Im prisonment for Debt Bill would be proceeded with by the Hon. Gentleman ? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL had done his part with that Bill, and it had been for some time before the Lord Chancellor. He could not account for the delay that had taken place. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. Lord J. RUSSELL then moved that the House do resolve itself into a Committee of Supply. Sir R. PEEL asked the Noble Lord if he meant to proceed to-night with the usual business of supply ? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that his object was merely to go into Committee formally, for the purpose of giving the Hon. Member for Bath an opportunity of proceeding with his motion on the state of the Canadas. Mr. ROBINSON inquired when the Hon. Chancellor of the Exchequer intended to go into Committee on the Stamp Duties Bill ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not. intend committing that Bill until Friday, and then only going into it pro from, as he wished to allow the public an opportunity of judging of the details of the measure during the recess, and of suggesting any alterations that might be deemed advisable. Mr. WASON wished to know what progress was likely to be made with the Irish Municipal Corporations Bill ? After a pause, Mr. GOULBURN wished to know if the Chancellor of the Exchequer intended to make any material altera tions in the Stamp Duties Bill ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER coq. templated no material alterations, but he thought it proba ble that he might be induced to make some slight modifica tions in the duties, but nothing that would affect the more mportant ones. He did not think there would be any ne cessity to make any increase, but he had received valuable suggestions from several quarters, and expected more when the Bill was brought forward in Committee. He thought therefore the delay he proposed would enable them to make the measure much more acce pt a bl e an d e ffi cac i ous . Sir R. PEEL was understood to ask when the business of supply would be proceeded with ? Lord J. RUSSELL said that it was not intended to enter into the supplies till after the holidays, but he hoped, the House would be able to go into that Committee the first day after. He should, therefore, be prepared to more the supplies on the 30th inst. As to the Irish Corporation Bill, it was before the other Houae„ and its progress would depend on the reception it might meet with there. Sir R. PEEL expressed his surprise at the extraordinary dttration of the holidays at this period of the session, for which he could not conceive any adequate reason. The House then went into a Committee of Supply. GOVERNMENT OF THE CANADAS. Mr. ROEBUCK rose to ove,;That the House re solve itself into a Co mm itt ee o f th e w hole House, to take into consideration such parts of 31 Geo. 111., c. 31, as re lates to the Executive and Legislative Councils of the Ca nadas, for the purpose of rendering the same efficient to, 1,1 0 jo k k t arble voice to good government of those provinces." The 11.5).1.V. gentle- . man proceeded in a very low and aloio4 complaining of tit® read a petition from certilillrilkaA s t chh i eir. a faits, and praying reclrega, 1-1 43 tlAq 4gOaTesi that the °Mao of his motion rues not to in l . pit e gn particular m en , b u t the system of colonial legislati on, aq which th e y ac t e d, One of the means by which he pro posed to effect permanent benefit in the condition of these colonies was to do away with the Legislative Council, which stood in the way of all improvement. Notwithstanding the analogy which had been set up for its protection, he contended that it bore no resemblance to our House of L or d s i n any essential point. It had among its Member s no men o f great landed possessions, of high moral influence in society," -- or enjoying any p o liti ca l c onsequsnce in t he eves of large . owers bodies of the people. They v. ere los the most politicians of a particular clique, who turned t i conferred on them to their own purposes, and againstlto the the interests of the people. He was decidedly opposecv,e exercise of the irresponsible powers and exclusive 11 , g i c ie of the House of Lords as upheld in this country, I rl e..n. hoped one day to see them abolished, yet he would _ d ie dilly say that he was aware they had a large body of Pel t . in their favour, and had men ofgreat moral influence amongst them—individuals possessed of considerable wealth these part t:sidints landed property ; and that the whole assembly, from . combined causes, naturally enjoyed a considerable of political prover, and exercised an inevitable influence in the Government of the British empire. The Legislative Th e House Council of Canada was a very different hod. of Assembly also was for its ware so unlike the House . 0 0 1 . Commons in the exercise of its functions, that from 1791 1810, it was not allowed to pay its own expenditure: and _ when in the latter year that House asked perunssios. of the Governor to do so, he imprisoned three persons for making the demand.—(Hear, hear, hear.) The object o f th is portion severe proceeding was to repress any measures on the part of the Assembly to get their money matters into their.'l own hands, to obtain any control over the servants of the colony, or to make them responsibli for the effective discharge of their duties. Proceedie, in this policy the Gov ernor an d Legislative Council soled the l House of Assembly f or a gran t o f a w h o l e swat to paY at the civil list in perpetuity. This was refused. They tl!el l demanded that the civil list charge should be made perm° . nent for the King's life, as it was in England at the begin ning of a reign. This was also refused by the Assemh:Y , as it would thereby have thrown away all the analog"' control and responsibility existing here. The King their stepped in, and asked the House of Assembly (in rets.rn for certain concess i ons prom i se d t h e co l ony,) to pay psrria nently the Judg es , th e G overnor, an d the Ci v il Secretary similar unlucky d eman d was ma d e to t h e Amer i can loniss by Lord North, an d success f u ll y resisted by them' but the people o f C ana d a y i e ld e d . They 'snade p er p ermanent provision for the J u d ges , b ut the Britis:a Legislature had never fulfilled its part of th e engaro r s . Jent specified i n the lst and 2d of William the Fousetl , It was of the u tmost consequence that the Judges should be responsible f or their conduct. .One was o notorious drunkard, an d Y et there existed no rae 3 P:s of getting rid o f hi m since th e permanent grail:lla°. been made.(Hear, hear.) As for the Legislative Council, it was chiefly composed of Pe culatara. Pse could state facts relative to certain indisi deals of it, which deserved the name of sheer swindling and nothie e l se . Th e people of Low er C ana d a demande d that, there should be an e l ec ti ve L eg i s l at i ve C ounc il a nd a responsible Executive Council ; the people of Upper Cana l '` made the same demand. That they were determined t° Abide by this demand was proved by their voting the slip, plies for si x mon th s on l y, an d i n many respects the pe ople of Upper Canada had followed their example. The 1-113 ' 1. Gentleman th en p rocee d e d to comp l a i n of the con d uc t °1 the Commission which was sent out, with Lord Gosford at its head, which C omm i ss i on b e accused of tempor i s i ng with the Canadians, and of exciting false hopes in them fot th e purpose of procuring a graut of the arrears of supPb' Another proposition was made by the Noble L o rd opP° - site, the Secretary for the Colonies, on the repeal of th e law which 'made it necessary to obtain a vote of the HO° o!' Assembly at all. But was the Government prepared to tell the people of Canada that they were unfit to govern' themselves, an d t h at , w hil st t h e people of the U n ite States, residing on the other side of an imaginary boundarf' were entrusted with the management of their own affa irs ' from them all confidence was to be withdrawn ? An d boo/ long did they think the Radical dominion would last io Canada after an act of this kind ? Just so long as they e° °lu hold possession of the colony by military force, and no longe r ' He called on tie House, then, to assent to the proposition, and to yield to the just claims of the Canadians. H e knew it was said, "Oh! it would be concession--it would be re volution—to do so." But there was a point in the matter which parties who made these exclamations did not eca t i skier. They seemed to treat the Legislative Council ° the Canadas as the representatives of the aristocracy there, But there was no aristocracy in Canada as in Engla nd ' The English aristocracy was the growth of ages ; not s ° in Canada. You could not grow an aristocracy as PI would mushrooms. But then another objection was, th l in Lower Can a d a t' nere were two sets of people, o f dif ferent origin, one French and the other English, and tbs the preservation of the Legislative Council in its preSe" form was necessary to prevent the French party from nv e ' l ' bearing the English. In Lower Canada it seemed asere were 134,000 persons who spoke the English language., an d 374,932 who spoke the French language--about thr: pro portion of three to one. Out of eighty-eight mesnbers i n the House of Assembly, sixty-four were of -Freud' origin' and the rest of English, being as nearly as possible in t he same proportion,. And to prov e s till more that it was no t a question of origin, the same dispute, lie it observed, ex fisted in Upper Canada, where that rearson could not possib l y be applied to it. Sir G. GREY praised, with some exceptions, the temper of the speech of the Hon. Member for Bath ; but though ,h e agreed with hi m i n t h e en d which he proposed—though ase joined with hi m i n d eprecating the evils to which he ha' alluded, y e t h e cou ld not concur with him that the remelt which he proposed was one that, under present c ircuit': stances, cou ld b e sa f e l y adopted. At the same time h° wished it to be distinctly understood that his Majesty's Go' vernment were most de s i rou S o f g i v i ng to t h e C ana di a nst greatest degr e e o f se lf- government wh i ch was consist ent , with th e i r d e p en d ence on t h e B r i t i sh Crown. It W B5 U.- , der these c i rcums t ances th at hi s M a j esty appointe d a e°lll mission to p rocee d, t o C ana d a . T he Commissioners were not empowered t o ac t as t h e H on. Member ha d state they were, but only t o o b serve , i nqu i re, and report, an d tb 00 1. instructions laid on th e t a bl e as g i ven to Lor d G°'f would show that they in no respect differed from those P' er , viously given to Lord Amherst. The high opinion e° l , - by tamed in Canad a o f L or d G os f or d m i ght b e judged eGsas the fact that even the petition presented by the Hors• bor a tleman did n o t, i n any way , i mpugn t h e conduct et . t he Gosford. Th e comm i ss i oners were now engaged il l the inquiry for w hi c h th ey h a d been, appointed, and y et ves a lion. Memb er wou ld w i s h t h e House to step i n bet! the the inquiry an d re p ort , by taking the question out o t r st hands of the commissioners. The commission, aw° ll , e j, other points to which their attention was to be di re ' t i s ct were to inquire into the constitution of the Lerl ooa Council, and include the result in their report. A s , d se as that report should be received, this part of it shot' at . brought under the attentive deliberation of the Governalrem The constitution formed for Canada in 1791 w as tn t e here an experiment, and it was impossible to deny tha j t . d ao t might not be a necessity for some alterations. li e u ; 'wive deprecate a change in the constitution of the Leg'! ta r Council, provided th a t c h ange w as not of an orga: ; '' e w ish turn ; but he was n o t di spose d to outrun t h e p ubi.c tha t and opinion upon such a change. He would not deg t h a t if the majority of the inhabitants wished for a chaug e ' w i t li change ought to be made, so far as it was co nsistent public advanta ge an d sa f ety . H e h a d no rea son to thing that there was any settled wish in Canada for a c hange : (Hear, hear, hear.) The first petition present.: o f Parliament, asking for any -change in the constitution Al oe the Legislative Council, was in 1832, and coal.! Government be fairly charged with delay, seeing that. tn . _ the the present commission was appointed to inquire i jea , grounds upon which a c h ange was ca ll e d for ? The y Member hiinself w h o h a d brought forward the presentis ins, tion wrote a letter t o th e Home of Assembly, in May' 18i in which he denou nce d th e very course h e was now l'u r 'e as a delusion, for that no thi ng s h or t o f a democrati c o rz ia, stitution and Government wou ld su it Canada. 1 0. or p , then, to this fact, and t o t h e i ns t ruc ti on w hich the ( -J. ° ja merit had given to the Commi ss i on t o enter upon 3 PP the : quiry, he could see no gro un d f or th e interferesice fe t t to Hon. Member on the present o c c a sion. With " s P sil ent the money appropriated by Lord Gosford to the PaY, set i, of the salaries of the Government officers, surely the h a d be Member must be aware that that was money that_lr oosa or long since voted for the public service b e en ape l a Assembly for the very purpose to which it had wo u In the appropriation of this money the Government he tO t " - be ready, at a proper time, to appeal with confidence' NJ , t° House for its approval the course they had ad t ° o P. v hicin pay the official servants of the Crown the salaries __`, ed ly • had rePea' they were entitled.—(Hear.) The supplies , haee '- been refused, and it was absolutely necessary to t o f 6. by the 11 course to the Treasury funds to pay the Govern : a. " itself. tors, and maintain the good faith of the Governio crimaJority He was fully convinced of the loyalty of the grea t an d o°' of the people. They l ove d B r i t i s h i ns titutions!. a res vernment would not shrink from the proposal 0 1 f a ll which they might think conducive to the interest v parties i N i e mber 11) : Mr. ROBINSON believed that the Flom Bath had no intenticn of pressine . his It wa,. s a; , w ard "'P o ore most extraordinary proposition to be brougot or Was an inquiry was pending. The Hon. Member, o _ . m a w moderate khan usual. He must deny that the_ a ri n J o. ge e b.fa vepresented the population of Lower U party' e!' certainly represented 111 r. Papineau and his n p ada but , vaina t of f were at least 150,000 British in Lower o a ntentie d ' that did not represent. He (Mr. Robinson) etc) ewer two.. motion. , no elective Legislative Council was giveneen 1 -4° the two b e i ° o to there was an end to the connection bet: Mr. F was frav catra- s bitig tries, It was true, indeed, that analogous to the House of Lords here sh ion la tiv a e uv cog a f f r it. He did not mean to say that thels'ecition ; but, o ohs , such an, Assembly, but then he required' th . a . t _ a f et e- pa c n_Y as now constituted, was free from obajnkruPts' and s i ts W etly mos was to Pre y° This like characters, there werQ from being principally compo& a o ll f it. One part of Ni s ., laspineau's syskel coada• „og; settlement of alk British subjects,. Lowerla terest of the C an- • okieet thin was to prevent ;be • t respectable men e