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v.t5.,04.R.L4r, PAR 4,4/KENT HOUSE OF PEERS. MONDAY, ).SAY Cot:11:4.:. were heard relative to the Scotch Ap. Allan Macpherson and others the creditors of the late Sir Samuel Hannay, Bart. Ramsey Hannay, Eq. vie. the Loan ApvocATß at con. siderable length, as leading Counsel for the Appel. lams, after which their Lordships deferred the fur ther hearing till to,morrow. The Earl of NORTH ESK, • Lord Sosisass, the Bi • Shop of PIPTEABOROUGH; and the Earl of RonsN of the Irish Representative Peers) were sworn 4nd•took their seats. kor.l iiiNg addressed a few observations to ti 4 HOOF-e; 'hilt in sf) very lOW a cone of. voice; that ;lot an idea could bexolleeted froth his Lordship below - the Bar, • LioV AUCX'L AND; in the course of some ob. seivations which he made, part of which were ap_ patently in 'answer to something that had fallen from the Noble Lord who had just spoken, express. :rd his hope 'that no objedion would be made .to a proceeding which he intended to move for, namely, to postpone the Ortkr for the second reading of the Bank of Ireland Restrietion Bill, till to.inor. • row, - He. thought no serious objeftion could be made by any Noble Lord to the proceeding, as the Bill at present in force did trot expire till the ist zeliune. The: Noble Lord then. took occasion to advert to, the circumstance of the pending; financial ditewsions. He observed, that there were some additional documents, which he deeMed it essenti al to the perfeet illustration of the subject, should be laid before the house : when their LordbiliOa had seen Ihese, they would be more firmly convinced of the acct racy of those general dedudiaostwhich he bad occasion to make on former evenings ;• he felt confilent-of being able to substantiate those propo sitions 'which he had hdd down, so favourable to the growing Commercial and Financid prosperity of the Country. The Earl of LIME If I CA7 observed, that however tiositous he might be cur a full and speedy disaus sion of the merits of the Bank of Ireland RestriAion ill; nnd,the important subje4 connected wilt it, on grounds which he had more than once advanced, yet under the circumstances alluded to by his No. bye Friend, be should not objeit to deferring the discussion for the short interval proposed. • Lord AII6CLANIi then moved; that the Order . _ for the second reading of the Bank of Ireland Re. stri&ion Bill be discharged, and an'Order made for the second reading of the ; said Bill to-Morrow: which, on the question being put,' was ordered gcOrdingly. Mr Earl of SUFFOLK made some observations on 4 stthjeo, which recently had undergone sonic diseussioki before their 'Lordships, and relative to Which, he noticed, there was a Bill in its progress through the other House of Parliament—he meant the situation particularly of the inferior orders of the ee;gy--.---he conceived it to be one of considerable importance, and respeaing- which, the Milne ought to have. every necessary information :- with this view, the 'Noble • Earl had prepared a Motion, 'wl‘,ich he read, and of which the obje'l appeared to be, to have laid before the House the number of Reaories, &c. distinguishing Such as are under the Y'llue of toOL those that have parsonage houss thereon, the present state of these houses, ez.c.&c. I,aerl AUCKLAND observed upon the imprac., ticability of .carrying such a Motion into effett— there .was no regular office from which such infur. in could be eolleaed. It would require an,in. tee vat of more than twelve months to culled all the iniormatiou described,. in the Motion,' at beat, it would be impossible to render it of any 'benefit in the view in which the Noble Earl seetrted to see k, during the present. Session. TLe, korl SUFFOLK handed up the Motion, . - and in ciplanatton observed, that there - Were 9000 Parishes or Reaories, of the description set forth in the Motion, of which he understood more than - sOOO were of a lower value than tool. : these were faCts,' of which he thought the HoUse should he fully informed, with a reference to the due illustration of so ienrntiatlt ro.subjeicA„ The Lod CIIAN::ELLOR go;rt . td the Wool.. sick oh Ate .ocosion, and 'after adverting to the" beads .of the Motion, objeaed to it on the grounds lowdown by his,Noble Friend. He observed, there was no Officer who could regularly be called upon to.furnith the iniormati n. reqUired. His Lordship seemed to recommend' to the Noble Earl to with. draw the Motion, for the purpose, if he should so ohoose, to endeavour to reduce it tO a Fa:Haile t,hape ;---which recommendation, (as we could col. lett), was agreed' to by the Noble` Earl. Lord'AL/.,..KL/1.V.1) then rose to move for the prodoCtion of those financial documents to which he , had recently afiverted, which, he repeated his e on _ yidion, would imliseutably, shew the inercasing final civet ploverity ache Country, as well as its tight), improva commercial relations : the leading deda:tion which he wished to 'establish, and in which position their .Lordships would see that he vas borne out by Official Documents before them, ‘siefe as follows ; that the net Revenue of the Coun try would be found to exceed 34. Millions Sterling, cf which, after &duffing about z 7,600,000 for the . 4i, c h riri i, z of the Nationaf Debt, there would be the num of 16,400,000 applicable to Public Purposes. He observed, lie had the most sanguine hopes on Otis "important national subjed, and entertained no doubt of being able to establish the above &due- Th t • Noble Lord then moved f or the pr 6.: aatio n of a number of Official Documents, which cmisisted of certain Accounts from the Customs, &c. and particularly from the xchequer; Account of the, net produce of the Permanent Taxes for unit year, ending sth of April, 18oz ; and f3r the. quarters ending the sth of January, and the gth of April, 1803, &c. 'I he qut”,i ions being put, the s, - 441 Accounts were crtdercd to be laid before the House. The various :f;illt before the House were for.. wa:ded their respeCtive stages. i he Committee on IVlarkbam's Divorce Bill, was, on ihe Mi,tiott of Lord AUCKLAND, pustpoped till tri The Earl Qf D 4k,AI4EY wishei to tall at heir Lordship? attention to a subjeCt .f the 'hi. hest National Importance : they would easily perteive he alluded to the- sittiation in whict, the Country stood._ with respect to 'sore of ,its mut important foreign relations,,and to the silence 4thicl; stars persisted in with respell to tjlose 'points. The House, he thought, had waited to the extent of rea sonable patience, and he adverted to the anxiety which the Public must feel on having proper expla. nations so long with-betel by Ministers, on a topic which so deeply atfeCted its interests. Under those impressions,- he felt :t his duty to come forward in the course of a few days, unless some other Noble Lord, more competent to do justice to the task than himself, should come forward, and submit 'som e propositions to - their Lordships on the subjea in question. The Noble Earl mentioned Friday as the day on which he should probably bring forward a Motion. After the Earl of SuFroLK had said a' few words, _ Lord HOB 44 la rose, and cbserved, apparently in answer to something that had fallen from the Noble Earl who spoke last, that under the circumstances of the moment, he was at a loss to speak decisively, as much, he seemed to say, rested with the French Government. The Noble Lord alluded •to what had recently transpired in another House, and which he understood was sufficient to induce 'an Member to postpone an intended Motion o; the same sobjeet till after Monday. He would submit to the Noble Earl, whether, under all the eircum. stances of the case, Friday was not too early a day, ansl whether some day next week would not be , better. The End of ROA/NEI', after alluding to the irregularity of adverting to what passed it: the other House of Parliament, noticed the great import tance of the subjed introduced by the Noble Earl, and the propriety of Parliament doing something on the occasion, did trot Ministers speedily come tbr.. ward . . He hoped, however, some communication would be made; at the same time he wished to=have it understood, that the subjcet would be brought forward for discussion on -a given day, should an official coMmunication - not be previously made. Lord PELHAM ce.:3erved, that the great objec. tion taken to the condutt of Ministers on the present occasion, seemed to be their not making some corn. munication ; to this he should only observe that the want of making any communication arose out of the absolute situation of the affair—Not knowing what,authentically to communicate, it was impossi. ble they could make any.—Ministers were as deeply impressed with the sense of the. respeet due to Par. 'lament, and felt as much for the anxious, but un. avoidable susPense in which the Public were placed as the Noble Earl or any other Lord could possibly du. He agreed with his Noble Colleague in deem. ing Friday too early a day : He conceived it un. necessary, under the present circumstances, to tres. pass upon the attention of their Lordships by any detailed observations upon the case ; all that he could say was, that every possible means were taken which occurred to His Majesty's confidential ser vants,'as the most likely to bring the affair to a speedy termination; he, however, did not feel it necessary to enter, into any detail of circumstances, or to offer any opinion as to the probable result. - The Earl of DARNLEY in explarlation, observed, that the interval of suspense had been 'very. long, and it' was necessary some termination should be put to it. He therefore gave notice, that if nu 'lcel. sive communication shou:d he made on or before Monday next, and he wished it to he so understood, that unless tome very stron:.; rosons were assigned to induce hint to lay aide tiro intention, he should feel himself called upon to sulunit some propoSition 3 to the House on the subjett, and in that view. he would move, that their LOrdships he summoned for Monday next. Hav ing moved to that effect, it was ordered; accordingly, and the House immediately ad. jAltned. HOUS.E 'OF COMMONS. • MONDAY, MAY Z. Mr..Littoubrought up the•report of the Irish L a w Cou rts Bill, and Wen moved. that it should be taken into further consideration on Wednesday which waS-agreed to. Mr. CALCAAFTproseineA a petition from John Simpson. Mayor of Great'Gronsby. stating, Oar he w::3 a poor :man,' that he could tteither.rcad tan- Wiltt",' and prayed the itaittl. genet! of the. liouse. Mr. CA!,clt Art then gave notice, that he should move on Thursday next, that John, Simpson b e brought to the Bar of rite Honsc.on that day, reprimanded and discharged, on paying,his tees. Mr. P„ , ,T•rxhi)t.; presented a Petition front the Weavers of Norwich, aglivist the Woollen Manufacturers' Bill now pending in the. House. _ • _ The 'Petition was read, and ordered to be referred to the Committee ApPointed for that purpose. ' Mr. 'Volt x e . postponed the further conside ra ti on Of t h e Mi. lhia Families' gill to Wednesday next, The CriANcEt,t,ott ne.the Excrregurru it:toyed, that the Order of rue Day be re;4l for taking - into further cemsideration that part of His Majesty's Speech which related ro the affortling of further accorinnoclation to Mercantile Transa4ions. The Order of the Day having been read, The CII4NCELLOR of the said, he . understood that it was the "wish of several Members, that the further consideration Of this suhjeet should be deferred. , He had been informed, by several of those who objected" to the measure which lie, meant to, propose, that in the Present state of uncertainty in which the Parliament and the 'Country 'remained, it was their wish that'the subjeet should rot be discussed. They had stated, that in the event o the present dicussion ending in hostilities, they' should not be disposed to (flea to certain branches. of the Revenue, to which, if the discussion 'should terminate in Peace, they were ready to state their objections;- in the hdpe. that Parliament would consent to r.epeal these d ut i es . Under these circumstances he was no: disposed to press for a decision upon 'the subjea at present ; acs should therefore propose,. that it should he post poned till Monday, :n the confident expeaasi on . 'that, previous to that day, he should he enabled to make a Communication upon .a sublet's' deeth teresting to the feelings of the:Public, and • respeft. ins which he was grieved to think that They h a d, been kept so long in a state of uncertainty. • • Mr. SHAW LE FEVRE said, that after wliat had fallen front the . Right lion. , Gentleman, he wished to ask, whether an Hon, Gentleman, who had given Notice of a Motion, ppon the State of the Nation, meant, to persist • in that Motion, which stood for to.morrow t• Colonel VITTEN said, that what had just fallen from the Right Hon. Gentleman, Was extremely un expected, and he really. kit himself embarrassed what . to say tipon the subjed. He wished, before he gave any dscided answer, .to communicate with some Gentlemen by whose judgment he wished to be guided. This question came upon him quite by surprise. . Mr. FOX rose merely to saya few words. After what had been said so distinaly by the CHANCE L_ LOR of the ExcoEQUER, and after the time which had already. elapsed since the Notice had been given, he should think that it would probably be the opi nion, that the Motion ought to be'postponed. Mr. RYDER Said, that the Hon. Gentleman had anticipated, in a great measure, the observations he meant to have offered to the House, and if no other Member had taken up the subjea, he should have thought it his duty to have recommended to the Hon. Gentleman tb postpone his Motion, as it was hardly possible that any public inconvenience could result from a short delay. If the Hun. Member had made his Motion to.tnotrow, it would have been hardly possible to argue it fairly, from the want of full information. He was therefore, of opi nion, that the Hon. Member had better not fix his Motion for any particular day, as the change of the wind might interrupt -the Communication between the two Countries. Mr. CANNING said, he rose merely to say a few words in defence of his Hon. Friend, who had givers notice of the. Motion (Colonel PATTEN). • It was the wish of -his Hon. Friend, that his Notice should stand , precisely in the way recommended by the Right Hon. Gentleman who spoke last, but he . was forced to fix a day by the manner in which he was 'pressed by his Right. Hon. Friend below him (the 'CHANCELLOR of the E?cctiEtzuEß)• He thought himsellbouncl to add, that his Hon. Friend, who had given notice of the Motion; had shewn the most anxious disposition to comply with the wishes of the House. The CHANCELLOR of thr EXCHEQUER said, he had not been understood : he thought the Hon. Qentleman had meant to fix a particular. day, and he merely pressed him to say, whether the Mo tion 'would come on on the day he mentioned ; and he wished to know upon what condition and circum .stances it would depend. Mr. CANNING said, under the present cir. cumstances, he was sure his Hon. Friend would not hesitate to put ofFhis ,Motion, with an understand ing, that it was to hesbrought forward on the first convenient day after a Communication should be made. Colond PATTENaid, he had not the least wish to persist in his Motion, if the House wished that it should be postponed ; he Would,' therefore, with the greatest pleasure, put it ofr. • . , The Motion of the CHAtIc ELLOR of the Excitt. Qv 6R for putting off the further, consideratiO of t hat part of the, King's Speech, which related to the grunting of ." further Accommodation to Mercan tile Transaaions“ till Monday next, "was then agreed to. Mr. W. DuNDAS moved the Order of the Day for a third reading of the Edinburgh Road Bill. Mr..Roo e itT VVILL Asas made a few observations agdost the Bill, and concluded by moving, that it should be read this day six months. The House then divided, For reading the Bill Against it . Sir Wttet.tAtitt,ELPotto moved for a Report of the further proceedings of the Lords Commissioners of the AdMiralty, on the matters contained in the Report of the Ctimmittee of Finance, and the Papers laid before the House on the •rst of October, 1199; p.t February, ISoo ; lit January, itiot.—Or tiered. Mr. TIFANRY gave notice, that be.should, on Monday next, bring iit a Bill relative to the 'rear ing Att. • Mr.Thciums moved the further consideration of the Report'Of the Coroners' Bill.—The Motion was agreed to, and Mr. HERVILY brought up the. Report. 116 IQ6 Mr. BULAND said he was .against the Bill, with its amendments. Mr. II CI MT' said he was astonished that any oh jeetion should be made to the Bill as it now stood : he then repeated many of his former arguments in favour of the Bill. Sir ROBERT WILLIAMS proposed a Clause relative to Coroners taking an Inquest on the Bodies of Persons wrecked on the Coast of this. Kingdom, but which received a neghtive. The Bill was then ordereti to he engrossed. Mr. I wuNs BROWNE moved the Order of the Day for the Mouse to resolve itself into a Corn mime of the whole House on the Nottingham Elec tion 13i11. `The House went into the said Committee, and kir. FOX rose and moved. the following amend meta, " that power should be voted hi - ten iittie. keepers and inhabitants of the Town of Notting_ ham, to call in the assistance of the County Ma. gistrates, in case of riot, of on any important °ma. sion.“ Mr. 1141P41N S BROWNE-said he could not ap. prove, of the amendment proposed ; the disturbance at Nottingham was very different from the confu. sion which generally attends Eleaions, and there. fore it could not be considered in the sane light. The Honourable Gentleman• then repeated his tor mer statement of the scenes of Wickedness which h a d existed during the tate P.:leaion, and observed it was necessary that there should be a co-existent power given to the Magistrates of the-County; he should therefore give his. most decided negative to the amendment proposed by the Hon. Gentleman, Mr. Fox said a fev words in favour of the con. dun of the Magistrates. Air. BONl)said, he knew of the late Eledion, he v t as satisfied that there were _sufficient grounds for ,the.present Bill, and ,unless earliament adopted some measure to- prevent tu tate disorders at Nottinghant,•the inhabitants would not be able to retitle, in the town* A r. 4 , x said , that the stories IA hid) Itaci h ie d 1„ d irjury of the AiiigistrifreS, came from a Pfiblication in. which many tit-,tru ths Were Stated— limong the ntimher, that at' n the ak cjpromr who was called the Goddess of Reason ; but though Oleo fables were made rise of to prejudice the I louse aril the Public at large, against the Magistrates, it was well known that there had not been the least evi. dence offered before theVornmittee, t•s prove their • knowledge and - connivance at the - wiekednets so much talked of. • • Mr. ROSE said, he never saw the boOk alluded to by the Hon, Gentleman • -all that lie had, said came from evidence. Mr. BOND said he could - assure .the House that his inforMation did not come (torn any publication, but from the evidence produced before the Commit tee. As td the Goddess of. Reason, mentioned by the Honourable Gentleman, which had been noticed by Mr. Pigott, when he examiped a witness, it appeared trom evidence, that the scene of folly alluded to, took place after the eletlion, and that no blame attached to the 'Magistrates on that account. But it came out during the examina. lion of the Witnesses before the Cointnittee, that the twenty-four women, who bad walked in pro cession, had conducted themselves in a very inde. cent -manner, and that a French hymn was, sung on the occasion. Yet he was ready to acknowledge that the Chairman dismissed that subjed as unwor thy of his notice. Mr. FOX said, that it was very well known that the Committee did not believe any part of the story mentioned. • Mr. HAWKINS BROWNE, and Mr. W. SMITH cof. , Norwich) said each a few words. Mr. BOND said, as there would be no Session between this time and the Eledion, and as the Law at present requires the sitting of a public Session, to give a person the qualification of Magistrate, he moved that a Clause should be inserted in, the Bill, to enable two Magistrates to administer the oath and qualify persons to take the office of Justice of Peitce. The House then resumed, the Report was brought up, read, and agreed to, and the Bill was orderd to be rend a third time to-morrow and engrossed. The Irish Courts of Law Bill was postponed to Friday. The 'Committees of Supply and of Ways and Means, were postponed to Wednesday journed at seven o'clock. MAILS. 01311. Holland I French I - o Kin:burgh i - - - - L:sboa 0 - - - - 1 PRICE OF STOCKS, THIS DAY AT TWELVi Consols. - - - - - - a 64i aNs THE SUN. 1110Laiw QUIS DICLAIL )ALBUM AUDIAT LOND 0 N, M 4 y 3, x BO3. .. • LAST night in the House . of Commons, t ilr CIiNCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER having rove d the Order of the Day lot taking into fa rtilcr consideration that part of His Majesty's S ;' ecc i of November last . , recommending further n ccurn • modation' to Mercantile Transaftions, said, that he understood that several Members who ""rc adverse to the measu r e of the Tonnßg e l and some other Duties, wished the business t°bt? postponed in the prese n t state , of 'uncertain t y , should hostilitie s b e t h e r es ult, they mita nn; feel it to he their duty to press the obj etlionl Which they would otherwise urge: he had t he less difficulty in conseitting to the required d; la y , tin I. Monday next, a§ he had a con fi dent expeCtiitiwi that previous to that time, he should he en ablcd make a communication upon a suhjea deeply r• L estlng to the, feelings of the Public, and respeCtin" iwhich he was grieved to think they had been in such a state of uncertainty. In conseqtrenc c this, Cclonel .PATTEN gave notice that he 'rt ) P l ' postpose his i nten d e d M ot i on f o r an I n viry int o the State of t he N at i on , an d u pon the sigge' ci ' m f of Mr. Fox, Mr. RYDER and Mr. CAtottoi f , put it off withou t nam i ng a ny specific daY f o r i ts being brought . o n .' I n t h e H ouse of Peers last the:Earl of DARN . LEY gave notice of a similar IVl°' tion for Monday n ext , • b h ou ld th er e be no cornalu' • nication to Parliame nt on or before that day. This morning we received the M oll itegr 0 401 / 6 C4 :l"A.Ctlinet of the igth ulr. They con/sin ll° Intelligence, and no M essenger had this m orning ofr rived. The French Funds were on the 28th 53' SINCE our Paper was put to Pre!,s, we Piave lejr°g that an expectation prevails in the City of 11011 c Communication being made this 'evening, or sots !Manifesto 'appearing adverse to the hope , of Pocc' and the Funds immediately fell in ennsequeocc co 63 ' The Dutch. Mail arrived at noun. It brings 1 ' news. Lisl ,o "' This Morning arrived a Mail from brought to Falmouth by .the King George Facic gc. " ) 13 days. Geln'eersatlerdaYinNo7ainngd H i s Captainl‘ in the neighbourhood of Windsor - and t ' lle FarlC His MAJESTY did not ride on account of the ° i ll ; settled state of the weather, nor did any of to Royal Family leave the Q o .lCell'ti Lodge.. Wind' This day the ROYAL FAMILY came from - sot to Buckingham House. • . His MAJESTY itas been pleased to accept ()I* the offer of service of the Edinburgh Royal Higl)lB7 Volunteers, in which abuve 30Q Lave 4111cY enrolled themselves. (2itYten.aLdlkb4.