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'bled. This was the more painful, as the senti ments of such a body were in themseives highly important ; and as it was always of importance that the House of Commons should have an op portunity of knowing the sentiments of their con stituents. The Honourable Baronet had said, that he had signed the Declaration, although he thought it did not go far enough, because he thought, to use the Honourable Baronet's own phraseology, "-his Majesty .ought, to be cheered up," When, however, _ the Honourable Baronet coupled with that sentiment an approbation. of the .measures of Ministers, he expressed two opinions completely distinct from each other ; because, if there was any one proposition snore evident than . another, it was that-- the measures Ivhich had been adopted by. his. Majesty's Ali uisters' were, very far from being beneficial to the Crown. Mr. lITELLs explained. his .reasons for signing the Declaration, and eulogized its character. He denied .that there was the slightest ground for asserting that it-had been-got up in a clandestine manner. He.clescri-bed the ;r-at difficulty which had_ experienced in obtainxn►g a place at the 1-I.gyptian-hall, and contended that the PeLition dia.not express the- feelings of the majority of theMeychants and Bankers of the City of Lon don.. • Mr. Alderman Woon could assure the House that the presence of the Honourable Baronet had been the only cause of the tumult in question. Half an hour before the business began, the Ho. pourable Baronet took a foremost seat on the Hustings, and shewed himself off in great style, bowing to all his friends, and telling them he was very glad to see them. In all City Meet ings there was a little noise ; but the lionoerable Baronet did not allow that the Petition had been carried by a majority of thrtee to one. (Sir W. Curtis—" The Resolutions.")—Well, the Reso lutions. The Honourable Baronet had first said the Petition. The Petition was read by the Lord Mayor hirnself,and,in putting the question, did all in his power to be heard in so large an assembly, by holding up the Petition and. calling out, " This is the Petition." What could he do more ? He (Alderman Wood) would ven ture to assert, that the majority in favour of the Petition was five .to one. The lion. Member who had just sat down had talked of the great difficulty of getting on the hustings. Ire would ask that Hon. Gentleman whether or not he was one of a body of two or three hundred persons who came to the hail with a view to take possession of the hustings ? in the excellent dispositions of the Lord Mayor to accommodate both sides of the question, he allowed a party of those who bad signed the Declaration to be admitted into a parlour, into which were also admitted the requi sitionists of the public- meeting ; and from which parlour there was easy access to the hust ings. He appealed to the House and to the auntry whether there could, be a fairer proceed ing. As to the tumult, it arose immediately after the speech of the seconder of ti* Hon. Baronet's motion, Mr. Bosanquet, who, had been patiently heard throughout. • - Mr. BARING, after the very able statement of his Honourable Friend who had presented the Petition, would not detain the house at any great length. The fact certainly was, that a more un worthy combination to prevent hearing any thing but what coincided with their own sentiments was never witnessed than that which some respecta ble persons allowed themselves to form on the occasion alluded to. The only reason to account for it, in his opinion, was, that those persons were endeavouring to prove to the country that public meetings were a farce. Not only had others been interrupted by those persons, but even the lion. Baronet himself. There was no doubt, in the City of London, but that circulars had been issued and a regular plan formed to deter the merchants and bankers from ever assembling again. He altogether disagreed with the Hon. Baronet in his general character of such Meet ings. All which he (Mr. Baring) had attended before this last, were conducted with the greatest regard to order ; and but for the combination and conspiracy of ,which he had already spoken, he was persuaded that the last - meeting would have passed off as quietly as any of its predeces sors. it was deeply to be regretted that such an issue should have been prevented by persons who 'undoubtedly were of highly respectable charac ter. The Hon. Baronet had asked - why the Loyal Declaration (as it was termed) had a wakened any jealousy.? in the first place, it was said to be the Declaration of the Merchants and Bankers of the City of London. At least, so it bad been originally described in the placard, although within these few days that description had been corrected. The Honourable Baronet had asked why the Merchants and Beakers of the City of London should feel any hesitation in signiog a mere Declaration of Loyalty? It would . be impertinent in hint (Mr. Baring) to say one word in defence of the loyalty of the Merchants and Bankers of the City of London. But the question was, whether the occasion was a fit one for sending forth such a Declaration—(liear !)—The De claration, besides its loyalty, also stated that se dition, and blasphemy abounded in the country, with a view of making an impression that the agitation which the measures of his Majesty's Ministers had caused was occasioned .by sedition and blasphemy. The petitioners thought other wise ; and they thought it their duty to state in their opinion what was the real cause of the pre sent state of the country—namely, the proceed ings which had been instituted against her Ma jesty. They preferred doing this, in the form of a petition to the House of Commons, to framing any counter-address to the Throne ; because they felt the propriety of avoiding, except on the oc currence of a great necessity, any step that might be considered personally offensive to his Majesty. The Loyal Declaration had evidently been got up to serve as a kind of counterbalance to the nume rous petitions which were pouring in from every part of the country. Like others of a similar character, it had originated in the Treasury ; and was milk and water, because no one would ven ture to administer any thing stronger. There was no foundation whatever for the assertion which it contained, of the prevalence of sedition and blasphemy. If any part of the Empire could more than another 'effectually contradict the as sertion, that the great mass of the people were disaffected to the existing institutions, it was the City of London ; far no one could have witnessed the meetings at Spafields and elsewhere without feeling how contemptible, both in character and in numbers, were the persons who were called Radicals. He could not agree, therefore, that there was any want of loyalty in the country. But the loyalty of Englishmen was a rational feeling, and was never in greater jeopardy than when Ministers dragged his Majesty and the Royal Family through the mud, as they had lately done ; and then pretended to hold them up as objects of admiration.—(Hear, hear,, hear !) —lt was no small matter that Ministers had brought his Majesty into such a condition, and that the Hon. Baronet should think he wanted a little " cheering up"—(Hear, hear, hear!).—lie perfectly believed that the lion. Baronet was, correct in supposing that such was the case,when he saw that his Majesty could hardly change post horses in any town in England, where the con duct of his Ministers had not created a feeling which rendered it difficult for him to pass through with decency.—(Hear, hear I)—As to the ques tion of loyalty, the feelings manifested by all classes of the people" 041 the death of his late Ma jesty, and ott the death of the Princess Charlotte, proved it to be the basest calumny to say that the present feelings of the Country were produced by any other cause than by the manner in which his Majesty and the Royal Family had, been dragged through the dirt by the Noble Lord and his eolleagues.—(lear, hear, hear !) Mr. WILSON could not exactly agree either with the Hon. Baronet or with the Hon. Mem ber for Taunton. He denied the declaration of the former, that the lion. Mover of the Resolu tions was distinctly heard. He denied the asser tion of the latter, that the tumult was the result of any combination or conspiracy. .He did not believe one word of such a charge, and was con vinced that it was utterly unfounded. The De claration had not been put forth as 'the Declara tion of the Merchants and Bankers of the City of London, but only as cc the undersigned' Mer chants, &c. He admitted, that in the earlier placards that distinction had by mistake not been made ; but the error was unintentional, and was corrected as soon as it was discovered.. He wondered that those.Honourable Gentlemen who had charged The individuals signing the Declara tion with being influenced by any but the most open and honourable motives, had not, on read ing their names, felt a kindness and respect which would have induced them to treat those individuals in a spirit of greater charity, and to believe that they were as Unlikely as themselves to do any such thing. The hustings were capable of containing 250 persons. Notwithstanding an application made the day before, only 20 of the Gentlemen who had signed the Declaration were permitted to go on the hustings. This he did not consider very liberal, especially when the crowded state of the body of, the Hall, which ren dered it a matter of great inconvenience to stand. there, was considered.. Mr. G. P{LJLLiPS declared that he had never witnessed more disorderly and- disgraceful con-, duct than on the occasion in question.. The ex clusive loyalists and lovers of order were shout ing, hissing, and adopting every other means of creating' a tumult. He heard the conversation of some of those who were near hint, and it ran on the impossibility of deliberation at a public meet ing, on the probability that that would be the last public meeting of the kind in the metropolis, and on similar topics. There was every appear ance of a combination to create disorder. The Honourable Baronet's appearance was a signal for disorder ; and he was not heard himself, in consequence of the noise which his friends made. As soon as his Honourable Friend (Mr. Baring) began to make some remarks on the figurative language of Mr. Llosanquet, and to recal the Meeting to the real state of the question, when the noise of the lovers of order was so great that it was impossible for him. He was surprised to hear the Honourable Baronet express a doubt whether the Resolutions were carried, for he was much mistaken if he (Mr. P.) did not hear the Honourable Baronet, when some of the lovers of order on the hustings expressed a doubt as to the result, express himself satisfied that they were clearly carried. He (Mr. P.) was quite satisfied from what he observed, that they were carried, as far as he -could judge, by 3 to 2. Sir W. CURTIS said the Hon. Member was mistaken in supposing that he gave an opinion on the hustings that the Resolutions were car ried. Ile was doubtful as to the majority.—The Petition was brought up and laid upon the', table. Mr. JOHN SMITH, in 'moving that the Petition be printed, said, an Hon. Member had very er roneously supposed that he did not do justice to the Gentlemen who signed the Declaration. He had acknowledged that they were men of high respectability, and some of high independence; and he might name an intimate friend and near relative of his, Mr. Manning.—(Hear !)—His endeavour was to avoid throwing imputations, but to take care that he and others were not to be governed by them.—(Hear !)—He used the word clandestine in opposition to open and no ticed meetings. If a notice had been give►►, he should have attended, and though he should have concurred in what was done, he should have proposed an Amendment. The Petition was laid upon the table.—ln moving that it be printed, Mr. J. SMITH said, that, convinced as he was, the only way to restore peace and tranquillity to the country was by again inserting her Ma jesty's name in the Liturgy, he should have felt it his duty, charged as he was with this Petition, to give notice of motion that the name of the Queen be restored to the Liturgy. Ile was happy,- however, that another Gentleman had done it; that motion would have his cordial support. Sir R. ITEnoN said, he had given a notice of a motion on the subject of the Liturgy, from his sense of its importance and necessity, and without a knowledge of the intention of the Honourable Member (Mr. J. Smith.) But it was impossible that strch a motion should not come with greater weight from the IT9nonrablo Member who was charged with the Petition of the Merchants of London, as it was certain it would be supported with greater talent. He, should therefore sur- , render his motion *lto - the, hands of the Hon. Gentleman. The lion. , BarOnet then withdrew his notice. , Air. J. SMITH said, that in that_ case luctantly gave notice for Tuesdas%, the 13th, of a motion to restore her Majesty's name to the 'Liturgy. - • KILMAINHANT. Lord J. RuFsELr. postponed his motion on the subject of the alleged military outrage at the Kil mainham Meeting till Wednesday. • lONIAN ISLANDS. On the motion of Colonel DAviEs, returns of the Militia of the lonian Islands,. and various other accounts connected with them, were or dered to be laid before the House. LIBELLOUS ADD 11 ESS. Sir J. NEWPORT moved, that the publication in The Gazette, to which he had called the at tention of the" House on the, preceding night, should beread.—The publication in question was then read. Sir J. NEWPORT moved, " That the paper en titled a Dutiful and LoyaL Address from the Peshytery of Langham contained passages which were a manifest breach of the privileges.of that House." • The Motion being agreed to, the Right Hon. Baronet next moved that the following insertion should be made on th e Journals t—" That a com munication having been officially made that the insertion of the aforesaid Address in The London Gazette, containing the reprehensible expressions which took place through inadvertency, the House does not feel called upon to take any further no tice of the same."—The Motion was agreed to. Mr. HUME inquired if there would be any ob jection to insert the Resolutions of the House in The Gazette to counteract the impression made by the appearance of the Address. The CI; INCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the publication of the Resolutions in the Gazette would be an anomaly, and he thought it might be inconvenient to break through the usages of the House. RANK OF IRELAND.' On a Motion that the House should go- into a Committee - of Supply, Mr. G RENFELL said, he • had ascertained the report that the Bank of Ireland had refused to receive the legal coin of the - Rearm to be a fact.. What their reason for doing so could be, he was at a loss to conjecture. He could easily conceive that a private Bank might be disposed to oppose itself to a return of metallic currency. It was strange that the Bank of Ireland should act such a part. If it were done with a view of opposing a return to cash payments, he thought the Go vernment ought to interfere.. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had cer tainly no information to give the House on the subject. He had received no accounts from: Ire land, and had not seen his Right. Hon. Friend the Chief Secretary for Ireland that day. The Hon Gentleman must be aware, that neither the Bank of Ireland, nor any other Bank, could re fuse the legal cola of the realm, by whomsoever it might be tendered. Sir J. NEWPORT remarked, it wasknown that they could not refuse the legal coin when tender ed for a debt due to the Bank of Ireland. What he understood was, that the Irish Bank refused to receive deposits in the legal coin of the realm. Since the Exchequers and Treasuries of Ireland were consolidated, he thought the Chancellor of the Exchequer, being also Chancellor of the Ex chequer for 'lreland, ought to be as well ac quainted with the affairs of that Country as with those of this, and ought to have no occasion to refer to the Chief Secretary for Ireland, who had nothing to do with the subject. The CuANcELLart of the EXCHEQUER did not consider it to be any part of his duty to in quire into the private conduct of 'the Bank of Ireland or the Bank of lilnglind. Those Banks were answerable for what they did to the coun try, but not to the Government, and he was not responsible for the conduct of either. Sir H. PARNELL thought, when the connection between the Government and the Bank of Eng land was considered, the doctrine,_ that Minis ters had nothing to do with the conduct of the Bank, could not be admitted. The Bank- of Ireland had recently taken a mistaken view of the subject, and had refused to make issues to carry on the ordinary concerns of this country, when this seemed extremely desirable from the peculiar situation of affairs. The conduct of the Irish Bank did not appear to have been suitable to the circumstances of the country, and he there fore tloinght the whole subject ought to come under the consideration of the House. He thought it would be much better if the monopoly now enjoyed were taken away ; that in Ireland, as in Scotland, theymight-hitTethe benefit of competition that would be in that case excited . amongst several large bodies of Bankers. Mr. IRVINE said, the report that the. Bank of Ireland had refused the current coin of the realm as deposit had excited his surprise, and , he had made inquiries, as to the fact, and had found it. true'. The present situation of Ireland was, that there was no circulation but that supplied by the . Bank of Ireland. It might be impolitic for them. to issue gold, which might eventually displace their notes, so that it was no advantage to them ' to receive gold for deposits. Mare enlarged views should, however, have prevailed with a great establishment over the calculation of vate advantage. He had heard also, that the' Bank of Ireland discountenanced those who im, ported gold. From what he knew of the re spectability of Gentlemen in the direction of the Bank of Ireland, he was convinced they must have acted from mistaken views. The Hon. Gentleman then called the attention of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer to the Act for issuing Exchequer Bias for the alleviation of distress, which was so constructed that not one person had been able to take advantage of it in Ireland, though many had applied to the Commissioners. Mr. BARlNG.thought this was one of the Sub jects over which it was the duty of Govermrent to.watch. If the Bank of England ceased . to transact the public business, could the country be allowed to, remain without the operation of a' Bank. Ministers had greater reason to look after the Bank of Ireland than they had to look to the Bank, of England. It was the duty of Govern ment to know if they used tl;eir charter as they ought by carrying on, tho:business as they ought to do, which certainly thea . did not, iF they refused the curint coin of the realm. fle Confes sed that he was at a loss to guess why they should do so, as after all they could sustain no loss', but in printing and paper, and he should have thought it for their interest, to issue their notes for bullion. If it should appear that the. Bank of Ireland set its face against a return to metallic payments, the Government were duly bound to interfere. Ile wished the system of obliging tbe Bank to pay large sums in bullion were made perpetual. This would in some mea sure alleviate the pressure on the country, and he therefore hoped the system suggested by an Hon. Friend of his (Mr. Ricardo) would be 'perpetu ated, as it had been found now, fOr several years; to • prevent the depreciation of paper. He was anxious to see what could be ellected to 'guard against the forging Bank-notes. If the crime could be rendered more difficult, (to prevent it altogether was impossible,) the evil hitherto com plained of would be materially diminished. lle hoped some Gentleman would move for a Com mittee to inquire what had been the conduct of the Bank. The CHANCELLOR of the ExcurocEn explain.: ed, and repeated what he had before stated. He had, at first, doubted the truth of the report time the Bank of Ireland declined issuing their notes for the legal coin of the realm, as it appeared to be greatly for their advantage to avail themselves of all such applications preparatory to the re sumption of cash payments. Of what it was that led them to adopt a contrary opinion, he was quite uninformed.. Mr. RacAntno said, it would afford him great pleasure to see the system which he had recom mended made permanent. If thiS measure were too long delayed, the Bank, to resume cash pay ments in 1823, would have to purchase much more bullion than would otherwise be wanted. He proceeded to show how the prices-of - gold and silver operated on our present circulating me dium, and thence inferred the necessity of making the system which Parliament had adopted per manent without delay. The question for going into the Committee of Supply was then agreed to.. - The CHANCELLO - R of the EXCHEQUER moved that accounts of Exchequer Biils outstanding should be referred to, the said Committee. Mr. BARING said. he. wished to see what they had to hope from the question now pending re specting the Bank paper. He hardly' saw how they could cOme to , a resolution on the subject to which he had before called the .attention of the House till they had some information as• to what could be done to prevent a conti nuance o f forgeries to the extent witnessed in late' years_At present they were left in suspense as to the period A which they might get the information required. He witnessed the anxiety of the Gen tlemen to prevent this crime, for too many years to doubt their zeal in the cause, and he hoped that some information would be afforded` early in. the present Session. Should this hope be disap pointed, long before the close of the Session he should endeavour to submit some proposition to the'llouSe,. applicable to the state of our curren cy.—The question Was then put and carried. NAVY. The House having resolved itself into a Corn mitteeof Supply, Sir G AVA 111 . LE;(D ER addressed the Committee on the subject of the Supplies for the Navy for the present year. In the course of his observations, he stated that a considerable diminution in the Naval expenditure had taken place, partly in consequence of the reduction of a thousand sea men, and partly owing to the diminished price of provisions. This diminution, however, was not intended to affect the exertions which were making in the cause of humanity and of science in this branch of the administration of public . affairs. He should be sorry if either of these important points should be neglected ; and he was happy to say, that great progress bad of late been made in both. The Hon. Baronet con- •. eluded by moving, " That it be the opinion of that Committee,- that 2,000 men should be , em ployed'for the sea service, including 800 0: marines for the thirteen lunar mouths, from the Ist of January 1821, to the ISt January 18`2 1 2i." The question having been. put, Mr. CREEIEY said, that it was his intention to oppose the vote proposed by the Hon. Baronet on this occasion, as it, was his fixed determina tion not to giVe his- vote for a single farthing of the public money before the Estimates of the ser vice for which it was.to be employed, were laid upon the table. Sir G. WA:tat:mina said, that if .. .the Tlonoura , ble Gentleman meant to dt?art from, all ParHa , mentary practice, then he tniglit certainly oppose the motion he had submitted to the Committee. The Hon. Member, he thought, had Mistaken the nature of that Motion. It was• not at all con fleeted with the - general Estimates of the Navy, which were always in . the hands of Members at least a fortnight them the usua l R eso l u ti ons founded on them • were moved. He ought, perhaps, to have explained before, but he had on former occasions so often done so, that he really had not thought it necessary to repeat, that the votes proposed 'in the early part of the Session always related to the fleet afloat, and had no connection with either the raising or reducing the existing strength of the navy. The votes -which he then held in his hand related solely to the fleet afloat. 'When general estimates came to be proposed, if the Hon. Member had any observations to make, he would have the benefit of having had them in his hands for a long time before the resolutions were brought forward. With regard to the votes he held in his hand, it never was the custom to present any estimates of them. They were made in consequence of an Order -in Council, enabling the Kin g to maintain the fleet afloat, and, unless the Hon. Member meant to depart from all Parliamentary usage from time immemorial, he would not object to his motion. Mr. CREEVEY said, that this having been the practice of that house from time immemorial vas the reason and the cause of all their distresses.— It was time that they strould change theii- man.: tiers. He then moved that the Co-intittee report .progl-css, and ask leave to sit agaii this man iyN r he7fishould treat every ebsolittiot epos an Committee Of.Slipply in whiN ti e estimte* of the money were notbbefore the House. Mr. lleisE stated the great objections he en tertained to the reductioh Of the- naval fdree of . the country, and the duginentation of the mill.; tary, as was exhibited in the. Note proposed t the Hon. Baronet for the service of - the'present year. The. increase of the corps of Marines to the amount of 8000 - never would obtain his con.- sent at a time when our military establishment was so great as it was. gtill. less could he•cona tenance the reduction of our whole naval force down: to the' number of 14,000 seamen only. What means could they employ to man a fleet of any magnitude in case of emergency, if • they went oh in this way annually decreasing this va luable body of men ? It was most injurious to the interests'of the Navy. He +.ould - never con sent to vote any money for this service, :until he saw' a disposition to reduce the useless and extrn vapnt Civil List. -- Befoi-e he voted any money, lie must see if it was intended to reduce the number of Commissioncrs. of Dock Yards are other places where they were equally tinneceS sary. _ Sir GEORGE WA TIREN DER observed . , that:it :i• s-, perfectly well-known by all who were in the. least conversant with the subji••ct that the ot:4- nions of naval men were opposeA to that of the. Hon—Gentleman (Mr. litune).. He trusted, therefore, the House would not he led away by the opiniou of the lion. Gentlemart on the: subject of the increase of MarineJ,- whom they knew that it was the opinion of all Naval Officers : and persons connected with the Navy, and be believed of all the - Gentlemen on erre. other side, except the lion. Member himself, that it is of the. greatest .advantage to the public service to increase the corps of Roydl Marines.' Mr. BENNETT woad not enter into the merits: of the increase of Marines. That Wonicl he a very good question when. the Estimates ‘carne be fore thellouse. But he would not consent to, - vote a single .shilliag of the public money with out the Estimates were placed before him first.. it was time that-the attention of the House and the Public should be directed to what was going on. in Committees of Supply. It was time that an, end should be put to those farces ; and,• in 'or der to expedite this. end, he would not consent_ to a single vote,. if' the consequence should be that the Session: lasted till. October next. The country should no longer, with Ids consent,. be" pillaged in- this manner. The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCI-LEQTJER expressca his surprise at the course which. Hon. CentlemVl opposite thought fit -upon this occasion to take- He would venture to say, that there scarcely was an instance in which •the course of .pabliz: businesS was attempted to be obstructed by such means on the records of Parliament. Let Gen 'derma only refer to the Journals of that House for years back, and they would find, that fronr time immemorial, the practice 41•Pa.rliarr5ent hal* been. to ;,rant these preliminary notes without Estimates.. IVIr.M.InnYAT said, that the question r pp e area to him to be, whether the naval forces o f the Country at present in actual employment were try be maintained or not. The supply now askea was for men actually in service. Acc or ding t''' all form er practice J of Parliament they wtEr bound to vote for the niaintenance of the seamet/ in actual service. • Mr. BENNETT eXplained, that he would wit: lingly consent to a • vote for the maintenance those seamen for a month. But it was (lemmata in this vote for a whole year, and iCwas .to that. he objected before the house possessed' the' means of judging how far it might be expedieu t or necessary to keep , up this larce.. ,Sir G. CLARKE was surprised at the Want or . tritisort in the arguments of tk'e Gentlemen 01'1' °- site. One lion. Member (Mr. Ilume) endea voured to impress the Committee with an, lAr' that there were too few men employed, ancl others complained of the force being too great h e money called for on the present occasion was for .the payment of the wages and for the maintenance of, the men in actual service ; ortalt was obvious that the greatest part being at n , axed rate; the sutra required partook of no. 'change. The objections, therefore,. to vote for this money, he thought, had no foundation. Admiral HAnvry stated, that, from his expe rience, which was extensive, in fitting: out arma ments the great difficulty had generally been oc casioned by the want of a sufficient number of 018 seasoned Marines. - - New Marines were of. rag use, and as the Navy had been much increased in the number ' of ships, particularly in line-of' battle ships, nothing in his apiiiiOn, was requisite, or would more conduce to the good al the service than a substantial Coi'psof Marines. Sir GEottc.t; CocjiaugN re:Aze - . - kered at the last time when war was declar ed, in eons& quence of the deficiency of Marines, they were• obliged to take a num b er of soldiers out of the regiments of the line, myho 'Were qu - it e unfit for the st a ti on, and was the source oL r. much disagreement., between ,the officers 1 51 ' 1 men. With regard to the sailors at present en ployed, there certainly was 11Q superabundance , But there was an immense number employed in th e , - commerce of the co un t ry , f rom which they would be able in the space of two months 'to man,a Occt'• lie was aware of the dislike of seamen generalf.Y• to go on board a man of war, but when there xra-s no commerce they would come of their, awn ac_ cord. As it h a d a p peare d to them. that they. did not want the. 1000 men that had been reduce to they thought themselves bound to discharge them; but, if the House should order them to b - e employed again, they would certainly be able t° amuse them. At the saute time it wws, their del' to say, that for the public service they were- nti t wanted. Sir F. 0:11A1 ANNEX entirely concurred in the propriety of keeping up an adequate corps af . Marities. Mr. TREMAYNE was anxious to take this O /, I