The Sun. — London, England, 1803-02-24 00:00:00

1 ~. 3 ~~~ . ~~~~ ~• i'. L ly as they Ware on him, they hiii , not fallen.beatily on the Public. He could assure the Committee he had not taken up this opinion lightly,•nor had he expressed it before he bad made a fair comparison between the situation . of the present illustrious Prince, and those who have been his predecessors and he was very sure, if Gentlemen would look back to our History, and consider the Establishments made from time to time for thelleir Apparent of the Crown, and would make a fair comparison, which included a consideration of the price of. all the articles of Necessity as well as of Luxury in life, they would find abundant reason to be satisfied. that the present Prince of-Wales had not taken more from the Public for his support than his predecessors. The Committee would consider how the latter part of the Debt had been contraaed, and consider also how • a great part of that Debt had been satisfied, and then consider how long His Royal Highness had been feel. ing the inconveniences of a comparative obscurity, and the period of life in which that obscurity was endured, then he was sure. the Community 'would think it would be but little to the honour of , the House thar this restridionupon.His Royal Highness should continue—These considerations Justified him in the earnest and -zealous manner sin which he "P' ported the. vote now proposed by his Right Ron. , Friend,. Mr. HARRISON said, that no Gentleman in • • That House had a greater esteem for the Prince of Wales than himself, that no man revered and ad. mired. the Royal Family more than he did, but not. 'Withstanding his respect for them, he could not con. teal his:sentiments with resped tO the ant:jet which ' Was before the House for discussion. He was very liorry His Royal Highness-should have been abridged. of those comforts and that dignity' and grandeur, which ought to attend the 'August Personage of our. Royal Prince. It was not; he tho'ught, prudent to add new burthens on the people at this period: The House Ought . coolly to consider their strength and the ability they possess, before they make use the public money. He thought it not improper to inquire what had been done with the money arising out of the Dutchy of Cornwall, during the minority atilt Prince. It was necessary that every particular relative to the expenditure of this money ought to be laid before the House; till that was done, tr Some satisfaaory.estplanation was given to the }louse, he could not - enter into the merits of the question, but by saying it was the fairest way to ascertain the sums due to the' Prince of Wales, our of the Dutchy of Cornwall; at the same time he did rot wish to offer any impediment to any Measure which would tend to add dignity to His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales. He also wished to know the residue of the Prince's debt. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the Prince's Debt amounted Its seven bun. Bred and ninety-five thousand pounds, and the re sidue is now two hundred and thirty thousand. Lord C. ASTLERE.4GH began by saying, that the eloquent and able speech, delivered by his Ho n . Friend on his side of the House, (the SoLtcyrox GENERAL) had been highly plelsing to his feeling's, and must have been equally gratifying to every Member in the House.; and he klt particulirly happy that the Anse was near it hand when liis )loyal Highness Would be raised from the compara tive obscurity in which he had been for eight years. The question now was, What were•the motives that '9!ged His Majesty to bring 'the subjea before the oust ?, It was because His Majesty .had felt strongly for the noble 'and honourable eond'uti of his Royal Son, who so steadily adhered to the engage. Ments he had entered into at the time he agreed to Pay his Debts.' His Lordship then said, that he was assured that the House could not be indifferent to the sacrifice which the Prince of Wales had made to satisfy his Creditors, by ieducing his Income much less than what had been allowed to that il lustrious Branch of the Royal Family for a consider able time back., His Lordship observed, the time of youth was not the time of prudence ; but how eifedually had the Prince now ,convinced the Conn.. try of his prudence by remaining eight. years;depriv ed 'of that rank and splendor so Justly due to the dignity of his situation ? If that sum of money which W as the prince's right, had not been issued !o the Civil List, the Country should have paid it. He concluded by saying, that the roes/inn. now for the House to consider was, whether His Royal Highness should remain under the privation and in.: conveniences attending his. present situation, or be testorecl to his former rank, dignity, and splendor ? Mr. SI.IERLPAN rose, and in his usual eloquent 'and learned nianoer, begged the attention of' the House, to a question, he said, of importance to them, namely, the Dignity of an illustrious. Pe rsonage. He had to observe, that in granting the wish of His Majesty's Message, it would be taking money 'hon the People,; but if. there was any sacrifice, it was made by His Royal Highness, who had applied some time back,► to the House of Commons for the recovery of his Right : the question wastliscussed -by the learned and the unlearned, and After much inquiry, the Houk discovered that his .Claims must go before a Court of Law :. from this great Tribu nal his ,Royal Claim was removed to a Court of rtuity, and then it was fOund out, that no decision f • could be given on his case by that Court : it was therefore referred to Lord PE tons; wilt offered his • itsaistance to , the Prince in' the pioSecutiOh of his But if it failed' Mr. SII ER I V AN sa id, ' t he entry would have said that the P r i n t e me a n t C o ° main money froM Parliament under an unjust pre renee. The P r i nce of Wales does not come here to beg, he comes here on a claim which is 'founded on eight,' as to th e A rrears o f t h e D utc h y of Cornwall, .Which were brought to p u bli c use . Bu t . let it 'be fairly Understood, that the Plan for the liquidation .of his Deb ts Continues as if this measure had not been adopted. 'The burthena of the People w ere then t great, which w a s a strong i nducem e nt to His `mod to Highne ss to re li nqu i s h any measure t h at cou ld, 94 ' 1 ° to their distress; and another reason why he ERVe_ up his claim, was the glorious uncertainty of cite Law, which consider as a art of • its profe s sors its excellence. Mr. SIIER I DAN remarked, t hat the . ITA NIILI:9R of the ExcnzQuza said, there.was a ed otlion .of ten per cent. on - s h e su m s d ue to th e Prince's Credit o rs, a circum s ta n ce which would welshl.l very heavy on the f ee li ngs o f Hi s R o y a l Witless, in-giving an idea, that he bad not paid, bu r c4opounded his Debts ; and he was ter twin. that the Prince a. ,es wOttl.cl snoner. main another year in his present situation than to give any loom to imagine that he had compounded his Debts. He said, he heard from all sides Of the House a wish that the Prince should resume his fornier splendor and dignity.. He wa's certain that every Member in that House,.and the Country at Jarge, • felt the most lively interest in the prosperity and happiness of that Illustrious Personage. • Wal The Ch ANC of tht EXCHEQUER ex. plained ; he vindicated . the condat of the . Com missioners, of Which he had been himself one. The PRINCE'S Debts . had' been, stated at 6z0,0001, but had been assurced at 65b,0c01. to provide for out. `standing claims. On the investigation they were found to exceed . that sum ;- but the Commissioners, from motives of delicacy and prudence, forbore to mention the circumstance. They cut off fraudulent charges, and for the remaining aggregate, gave the Creditors the option of Debentures of tool. at three per cent. or of go!. for each hundred at five per cent. salaries, rents, and money lent, they paid withont dedudion. The Prince, he said, would not be able immediately to resume his dignity from motiies, which, if known, would be highly Honourable to his feelings ; but the *position he made would have the merit of accelerating that event by three years and a half, and it was a conso lation to think, that His Royal Highness should so • soon be able to do it. HeSaid he supported the pre sent' praposition on public giounds, and appealed to the recolkftion of many. Honourable Friends, in proof of his having stated 'sentiments to that - effea heretofore. The claim's of the Prince, he said, were much tiver-rated, and if , the decision should be fa- vourable, he wished to know how judgment could be executed, after the fisrangements that had been made. There could be, no lien on the property of His Majesty. He disallowed any improper condua on the part of the Commissioners, and admitted that no debt had' been contraded.since 1795. Mr. SHERIDAN .and the CHA.NCELLOR of the c H EV,E tt severally, explained. .• Mr. FOX, in an elegant speech, observed, that at the time. the debts of the Prince . of Wales were first arranged in that House, it was stated, they were not-to he mentioned again ; but that would be treating the Prince with the greatest austerity, if. the House did not afford him that attention due- to his exalted situation, and take into their most seri ous consideration his honourable and just claim on the liberality of that House in increasing His Royal • Highness's. Income.; and as the money arising from• the thirdly of Cornwall had been appro. printed to the Public Service, during his minority, Tiis*Highness ought to receive a sufficient remune.. ration equal to his situation a nd elevated cliaraaer. , Mr. Fox said, it must be a satisfaaion to His Royal Highness, toconsider that he was not an Applicant, hut that His Majesty was, induced .to cal the Prince's situation to the attention "of the House. Mr. Fox passed a great many elegant encomiums on the many virtues which adorn the person of his Royal Highness. He particularly dwelt on his honourable and acute feelings in regard to his Debts of every description, and concluded by say ing, that he , never enjoyed that splendid and Princely Income which was allotted t o hi s great and exalted Station, After a few words from Mr. BANK ES, the Mo tion was agreed to, and the House having resumed, the Report was ordered to be received to.murrow. Adjourned at halfaast eight o'clock till tomor row at two. NIA I I,S. ARRIVI.D. DUE. F rench o Hamburgh o T HE SUN. 101,134 QUIS DICILRA FALSUM AUJILAT ? LONDON, FEBRUARY 2+, ►h')3. WE scarcely, recalled an occasion on which the House of Commons has done itself, in our humble opinion, more credit, than in its unanimous Vote last night on "the Subjea. of the PR INC a of W AS . ES'S Establishment. However highly we approved of the Measures adopted by the Legislature some years ago, for the gradual extinElion of' the Debt 'which His Royal Highness had unfortunately incurred, we have for some time past felt strongly, in common, :we believe, witli.a generous Public, for the cond. nued inconveniences which His Royal Highness ex. perienced, and was fur years likely to experience,. from the very confined Income to which he had been in consequence redticed ; and to lament that the Heir• Apparent to the Crown should, from whatever causes, still be . doomed to move in a sphere so incon. sistent with hii high station. ' , There is a Period, . ,;.• • when • youthful indiscretion, even ,a ,Private Individual, 'should cease to be recolleelecl with as. periey, 60 even unkindness, especially after many years have elapsed of severe constraint and priva tion, which had resulted from it. The wise measures. which had been adopted by the Parliament... Which,. in the year 1795, took into consideration 'HisßoYal . Highness's Embarrassments, have been thus far corn. pletely carried into cilia :—a great part of the Debt has been adually discharged—that Aft still continues in . forCe i—and the Paixcit has bien obliged to pass, no inconsiderable part of the prime of his life-in a state of comparative privacy and re. tirement. As our Report of the Debate on this interesting subjeet, will fully explain the grounds on which the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opened the Proposition to 'the House of Commons, it would be Opel-Ho:Ws in Us to enter Into any CICIaIICIS COMtlittit 'it. His statern6t was perspicti ous, -unreserved, candid. and manly. The .syMpathy of the House was.-eyinced by the -unaniMity with which the Motion .Wail carried, • and by the inconsiderable objections Which were made to it in the course of 'the_ a:bate. Averse, as we ever should be, to the rigorous perseverance in atiy Sys. tem, which by obscuring the proper splendor, must., continue to Wound the feelings, and diminish, to a, certain degree, the proper itgluence of any Branch of the august Family,now on the Throne, we can not but rejoice that a measure of restraint, which had at one period been so properly. recommended, and which was so universally approved by one eco nomical and liberal Minister, should at a subsequent one (and wetannot doubt of its experiencing similar approbation), be proposed to be set aside by a no less liberal and economical Successor. The adop.- tion of it is worthy of the early carter of the New Imperial Parliament.' WE yesterday announced the arrival of- Paris .I ) ape , s to the loth instant. The following is the only interesting Intelligence which they Contain A letter from Cape Francois, dated the isth of December states, that the Blacks had been totally defeated in ,an attack upon the French Camp Of La Croix-des-Bouquets, with, the loss of isoo men,. their Colour, and two pieces of Cannon. The intelligence from Colstantinopir announces, that the report of the English Troops being about to evacuate Egypt, is. unfounded, and that they, are likely to occupy that Country. some time longer.' General Nay has written a long letter to the Helvetic Minister for Foreign AfThirs, in which he complains, that Switzerland is infested by a number of Foreign Vagabonds, who commit every species . of crimes, and that no measures are taken by Go. vernment ,to repress these disorders. In this Let. ter the General confesses that there is not that una nimity amongst the People of Switzerland in favour of the Mediation of France which has been boasted olio certain accounts from. Paris. " The Helvetic 'Government," he observes, " cannot but know, that the political opinions of the mars of the Peopli are in. flUeneed by men who have openly attacked the legi_ timate otuthority, - notwithstanding - the declared in tention of the, Fitisx, Costuo to enforce tesped to the dispositions, lawii, and regulations . which should emanate from it, until the, Cantonal Organi zation,. and the establishment of the New Order of ' Things." The Enrinarier,of F.ndand, of coarse, come in for their share of abuse. We.are told in this notable prOdudtion, that " Emissaries from England, Officers in her pay, and Old Pensioners of that Power, enrol men under the eyes of the Civil Authorities, with. out the least opposition being m %de to them.' A. quantity of inert receive salaries to second their audacious enterprtsrs. The Agents of the Secret Police arc in some respells in %heir pay. A Coon. ter Police exists in all parts of Heiv'etia, and all the secrets of Government are knawo to . theoi; " The Mediator of Helvetia is Ireatecl. with lit.. tie reipea in libels and pamphlet's circulated among t h e, People ; the French Soldier is. considered as tho enemy of Helvetic Freedom ; sevetal,of them ha.e been the. vidims of the animosity- excited against them, although, in general, the• French Troops have 01)v:stied a wise and moderate condua, and have kept up that military discipline which koowi 11' to re4)ei`i the property , and security of individuals, whatever .opinions they may entertain:" Li the conclusion the Ss iss Government are railed upon io establish and carry into effea a rigorous Syste of Police, for the purpose of ensuring the tranquillity of the Country, by expelling,those from its boom% who disturb its repose:. The Government, obedient to the. orders it received, immediately address id t h e L ett er t o 411 the National Pit:leas, recommend, tog them 'at the same tune to cooforin ,to 1i0n.... . . The neniteur contains some regultationS of Po lice, according to which all Inn-keepers, Masters of Hotels," and Keepers of Lodgingllooses, in Paris, are to Make a return,. every day, to the Commissary of Police, of the names, age,-quality, ordioltry rest deuce, profession.. arrival, aod departure of every, person who lodges with them, though ooly for a single night. Early on Tuesday morning His MAJESTY, at. tended by Generals MA.NNIRS,M7II OARTH, and Desaottoutm; rode in Windsor Great Park, and viewed the different works and improvements that are earryingon there. At about twt,lve o'clock, His MAJESTY and aitendants took the diversion of bunting with the harriers • the day being remark. ably clev for the time ithe year, the sport 14* mast excellent, and HIS MAJESTY rnr4ued . it for several hours. Their RoYalliighneises the PA INC ESAESAUGISSTA and SoPltis, attenAul- by Lady ,CAltot.irm.Dok - - . NUR and Miss VYsa, took .a morniog's ride by Winkfield Plain, -in a coach and four, i.nd returned • to -Windsor tO dinner. .. HElt MAJESTY, and the PRltaeEssEs are not eic. peded in London till next Tue day. At a very early hour yesterday rnorning; Mr. SitAW., the Messenger, arrived - with Dispatches froill His MAJESTY' at Windsor, to the Secretary of Stato's Office, and the Queer,', House, stating that, `on account, of yestettlity being, A s .h.Wedn es . day, His. MAJESTY wutild not cum,: to London, a$ intended, but should be in London this day, whets Ht's MAj nil. was expeticd 'to lipid a Privy Council to arrive the Recorder's Report.: The Prcrycass MART continues indisposed with a cold at Buckingham House, but we. ire happy to say Her Royal +lighness was much bettervesterday. Their Royal Highnesses the I)uttEs - ,of C : LAR ENCE and CLIMB ERLANI> visited their Royal Sister yester day, and spent great part of the day with her. •The • Countess of CHATHAM, Lady taaNt.sv, • an.l ' a great•numberof the frearale Nobility, waited upOn tier Royal Highness in the course of the morning. Doelors•Mn.t.mxN, TuttTocti - and Gls - nov/4w at tend Her Royal Highness, ♦.:~ . FALitioll7 l ,l; Fpg,-io. BAiLib this day, the Wahintbas.; Packet, lkox iRTS, with Mail of the 13th inst: for Lisbon ; the Chesterfield Packet, BL tom', with Mails of the 16th inst. for the Leeward Islands;- the Del. phin Revenue Cutter, 'twills, on a Cruize ; the Fortane BkowN, for Neath ; the Ranter, Joittls, for Plymouth ; and the French Brig La Lahoarrate i CRARPENtIP.R-R s,' for Rochelle. Arrived the brig Flora, tET, frotn Mevagissey, and Four F4entls, Hoots NC, from Gweek. The Lay Arabella Packet, from America, and Princess Elizabeth, from Jamaica, with Mails, arr • hourly exixeled. DEAL, Fes. 23. Ammar) from the Nore, and remain, fitti jesty's Ships La Minftve and Juno, the former last. , night, and the latter this morning. . Yesterday being 'Ash.Wednesday, 4he,Bistints:tif LONDON preached an excellent Sermon at theChapelt Royal, before several of the Nobility, amongst whom,were present, ,Earl Sr N . c pR, Lotd Qau. Lord WOntitoUSF, WlLLonaktur . DE BROKE, the BISHOP Of DURHAM, ,the COUtlitttS. Of LIVERpooI„ - .Lady CHARLOTTE ,I.''INCH, Lady' CHARLOTTE' Lady tlic E,R, Lady Cootce,. and a great. numbcr of other persons of. Distinetion. . .We,were induced to hope, from the behaviour 'of the persons, who were conviaed with Colonel, Des. pard, and (torn their conduct at the Chapel on. Munday, that they were not so. devoid of Religion, as not to be ,sensible of..t.he enormity of their crimes.; and we are now happy to be able. to say from authority, that they acknowledged their: guilt previous to their execution., , , .Yesterday a Court of Diretiors was held at the' East India-110(15r, when the undermentioned Offi4i cers took leave previous to departing for their re. speElive destinations, vi 7. Capt. \V M. FAIRFAX, of the Hugh lush:, for.: Madras.' Capt. TiroNtiss WEL t_kovicir, , of the Cbarltovpt for Bengal. JOHN HEMltir, PfiLLY, of the Wexford, for Madras and China. THOMAS G'isettttt BAyttrr, of the Th:d dart, for St. Helena and Bombay. C3pr. jolik MAcK t..cro:t7; of the U11;011, for M , • ' The following persons..werelworn into the Coin. multi of ,theirre.spetttive Ship, viz. .. Capt. THOMAS LARKIN'S, of the lifrit'Tft: gait. ings, for China*; - and Cit. •AtibitiW Gart.VE, of thePriffces! Mary, for Bengal. • We-learn from Bengal, trim.. on the 9th of August lasts His Excellency the.. Most Noble Me Gotta. NOR-GENERAL' entertained at , breakfast the'N-eur• Government Howi, IVajor.General BAIRD', and thn otherOffirers of ilie, , Army of EOpr, together• with. all the principal Ladies and Gentlemen of the Set. clement, and the Governor and several of the' princi. pal inhabkants a the .Danildr Set Oen - lent Seraill. pore. Ar eight Vclock- in the tridiming the Frhg was hoisted on Fort and a Royal Salute lire&. initonour of the return of . ..the Army from Egypt. An, examin'ation into the folloWing attempt' coreupt a Soldier, took place at MarlboroUgh.stief last Saturday ; hot as the investigation was.pri‘ , o Ei tF, we Can only state, a rt:IA , particulars of the tfansac. tion :—On Friday pight a man Went into a ptiblic... house at the corner of QUeb'ec.street, Porrtnan; siiiiare, and asked lot a Indg tog. , He soon etitered'it . itO conversation withii Life Ottard'4.Man, belonging to Lord CATFlCAlq!4,,Regiment.' Prdposing that they : . sltOtild , drink together, he threw' out d,,.'rk hints of a..good snciet , which he bitittrit'cd WoUld.be very desirable to the aoldier'at the saint: time saying, that he might'be of the , ,greatest ser. itiCeTty joining their - hociery,, and , gall keeping ht situation tts a soldier. He • took a boOk . from 'hit( pee L l ., and asked the soldier If 'he could - re.id'i being amweretl f in the negative, - he read a sedi.• tious paragraph, which the soldier told.him he did not like. He then read anotherParagraph . ott ofi a. different book, which proved to bethe Age of Rea- . son thit the soldier told him he did not like 'either. He thenproimsed an Oath to the Soldier, Who told. hiM, 'that having raken an oath to be true to King, he would not take another. The Man taid their partyo,vtmld soon be the strongest, fOr which reason he treed be under, tioappreliensien froni ,w,c,ir ing as desired: , The soldier then Collared and t6cl= him into custody, and gave-him up to a When hying taken aWay, the man dropped some pa pers, which the soliiizr picked up and Off red to him ; be refused. .saying that they did not'belong to him: the soldier 4ifirtned the contrary; • and they were carried along with him. He had a hook stick with him, containing a. dirk, and' at the end of it a whistle,. which, 'he said, was to call for. as. sistance in caise of bei,r4 attacked ,by robbers.. • His It9yal Highoess the ?ItlNCtt OrWALE4, and the Honourable, Mr.i.DiLtog, have Mode a Maicli of,, a very extraordinary ~ktnd ; each party. is .to produccan ..ekubian,.borre'this,property), to r ten Erase miles, carrying eight:stone i 10,r one hUntirtd guineas. The; remote perit4 which any . freign .eratt has been iniroduzedlaiO n , ':gtir breed 'of ricers,-. And the great, irrovemetieclerived from the Godolphin • and Dailey Arabi ins, give great.. hopes of similar success from the recent importations twin Worthy Downs, near . Winchestei,'N the course fix• eel upon ,for the decision of this .match, which has caused great 5pec!.66,,;.0 in the Sporting it being the Only 0fa; 7 0 , , , n;114 , .:4eabian't ing, since :he itixolitien of Lord BtattNcuittaxei Arabian Plate it' Newmarket: The. baggage belongint, to Cape. St VlO4 and those Officers who duel of 'die yellow .'f,ever, on board,the Chichesier,'in the West lied it% has been taken' from, c,ta ooard -that and s, ink in deep waren - at . Portsmouth, under t ie distaionviVao. z, re' of the Roebric4 revcnia CtMerits..:"'