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IMPERIAL. PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, August 8. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE presented a peti tion from York, complaining of the unhappy condition of Ireland, and regretting that nothing had been done by Parliament to ameliorate the condition of that country. The Marquis of NORMANBY was glad that his Noble Friend had presented the petition, which had been originally entrusted to himself, but which he had committed to his Noble Friend, because he did not ex pect to be in town to present it. The Earl of Wicklow, Lord Hawarden, Lord Redes dale, Earl Bathurst, and other Peers, were deputed to a conference with the House of Commons, on the amend ments of the latter to the Art-Unions pill. The Noble Lords on their return presented in writing the Commons' reasons_ fur not agreeing to the Bill as passed by their Lord'slips. A second conference took place on the subject of the County Coroners' Bill. OTAHEITE. The Marquis of NORMANBY presented a petition, .segreed to at a public meeting in Leeds, drawing the at tention of the House to the efforts of the Protestant Mis sionary Societies for the last fifty years in the island of Otaheite, and complaining of the violation of the law of nations by the French nav a l co mman d er at t h e island. The petitioners had no wish for war betw een E ng l an d an d France, but they hoped the influence of the Govern ment would be exercised to restore the independence of Otaheite. He (Lord . Normanby) could not agree that the temporary u-urpation of the French officer should de prive Mr. Pritchard, tha British Consul; of his right to the protection of the Government which he represented. He was desirous for the maintenance of peace, but he could not consent that peace should be maintained by the sacrifice of rational honour.—(Hear, hear.) He could not say less in presenting this petition, and, knowing the difficult position of the Government, he would not say more. The Earl of ABERDEEN felt it necessary to make some obeeevations in reference to the subject of this pe tition. Their Lordshipswould remember that, in March lest, he had placed on the table of the House the corre spondence with the French Government in refrence to the occupation of Otaheite, and he stated, and the Noble Marquis opposite agreed with him, that there was no ground of jealousy on the past of this country towards the French for extending their influence and colonisa tion in the Pacific. He had very recently re ceived assurances from the missionaries in Otaheite that they hail nothing to complain of as against the French authorities.--,(Hear, hear.) ,He would follow the example of the Noble Marquis and say no more upon the subject than was abolutely necessary ; but he must say that he did not think Mr. Pritchard was the less entitled to the protection of his countrry, because he had divested himself of his official character.—(Hear.) That was a matter between Mr. Pritchard and his own Government. An attack had been made in another place upon the present Ministry for their foreign policy. But the attack was of.the less force, as the Ministers had the advantage of a vote of confidence from both .Houses of Parliament. A Noble Lord in the other House accused the Government of sacrificing the interests of the country and truckling to France. The same accusations were made in France against the Govern ment of that country, that the interests of France were sacrificed and, that theTslit of the French was truckling to England.—(Hear). It could not be denied that there was a war party in France.—(Hear.) But he still be lieved that moderation and justice on the part of both Governments would disappoint that party in France, and the enemies of peace at home. The Marquis of NORMANBY said that he had no in tention of making a general attack upon the foreign policy of the Noble Earl, although there were some parts of that policy which yet required to be tested by experience. The Noble Earl spoke of attacks made on him in the other House. Now, it was very unfortunate that attacks upon the foreign policy of the Government were generally made in the House where the Foreign Minister was not. Under the Government of Lord Grey, the Noble Earl opposite (Lord Aberdeen) used niaht after night to make attacks upon the policy of his Noble Friend in the oilier House (Lord Palmerston), who so long and so ably con ducted the foreign affairs of the country. With this ob servation lie would conclude, exereising his satisfaction at the tone in which the Noble Earl opposite had spoken of the outrage in Otaheite.—(Hear, hear.) The Marquis of CLANRICARDE concurred with the observations of his Noble Friend as to the speech of the Noble Earl. But he wished to put a question to the Noble Earl on a very pacific subject—(A laugh)— he meant the conduct of the Spanish Government to its English credit() .s.—(A laegle) As far back as 1834 a promise was gi‘ en by Spain that the debt would be con • serted. but that premise had not yet been fulfilled. The Earl of ABERDEEN said that was one of the operations of Spanish finance, which possessed at the time a favourable appearanee, and at first promised suc cess, but, like others, had led only to disappointment. He was unable to say that at the present moment there was any materially greater prospect than there had hitherto been of realising what was expected from the financial operation of Count Orano. The Noble Marquis had most justly describedthe course which the Government was called on to pursue in, questions of this description. . He had truly said that this could not be considered as an engagement entered into between the two GovernmentS 7 -it was one to which, in fact, England had been no - party whatever ; but that in fluence which they had a right to exercise on the behalf of British subjects it might very fairly be expected they should put in operation, and he might say there had burn no reluctance to use all proper means of producing an effect on the Spanish Government But the prospect of success depended much more on the opinion the Spanish Minister of Finance might entertain, as to what was due foved faith, and whatthe honour and interests of Spain required, than upon anything that could be done by a Foreign Government. At the present moment he could assure his Noble Friend that the Finance Minister of Spain was a man more likely to be influenced by large. liberal, and just views of what was done to the honour and interests of his country than any person who had filled that situation for some years past, and for that reason, he did look with more confidence than he otherwise should do to any representa tions that might be made by her Majesty's Government. POOR-LAW BILL. Lord WIIARNCLIFFE moved the third reading of the Poor-law Amendment Bill. Lord TEYNHAM moved the insertion of a clause, as an amendment, giving the poor-law guardians, in some cases, a dispensing, power to order out-door relief to the mother of a bastard child. He supported the amend ment on the ground that it would prevent the subjects of the relief being contaminated by the intercourse with the inmates of the workhouse. Lord WIIARNCLIFFE objected to the insertion of the amendment, on the ground that it was a further in vasion of the principle that no person should have re lief out of the workhouse. Ile saw no reason why the mother of a bastard child should he made an exemption. The amendment was negatived without a division. Lord TEYNHAM proposed a clause to the effect that *here a married pauper went to a distant part of the country to obtain work, it might be lawful for the board of guardians to give relief to his family during his absence. He thought it but fair that while a poor man did all that lay in his power to obtain work, rather than go into the workhouse, that his feinily should get relief while he was away for this I italable object. He did not know on what grounds the clause could be opposed. Lord WIIARNCLIITE opposed the clause. If a man was honest and trustworthy he would have no diffi euity in getting work in his own pari-h. The clause was negatived without a division, and the Bill passed. DUCHY OF CORNWALL ASSESSIONABLE MANORS BILL. Lord WHARNCLIFFIL . moved the third reading of this Bill. Lord COTTENIIAM objected to the Bill. because the effect of it was to give up' all the mines in the manors • which had not been worked, whilst it provided no "equivalent. He certainly thought that the Bill ought trot to pass without its being distinctly understood Abet it was that . the Duke a Cornwall was giving up, and what was the equivalent that he was to receive for it. Lord WHARNCLIFFE said that the Bill had been waster the consist, ration of all the law officers of the Duchy of Cornwall, and had been approved of by them. He thought the Duke of Cornwall received great ad vantage for what he had giVen up. The matter had been well considered he knew, for he was one of the persons who had conducted the negotiations on the part of the inhabitants of Cornwall--(lle2r, hear)—with the Government, and the law officers of the Duchy were perfectly aware what they were giving up. Lord CAMPBELL ` cons id ere d th e Bill was being hurried through the House :with most indecent haste. If it had related to a private estate the Judges would have been consulted, but in the present instance no reference had taken place to those learned persons. Bills tare now sent up with such rapidity from the other House, that their Lordships had no opportunity afforded them of making themselves acquainted with their contents. This Bill was contrary to every principle of prescription, ,for, although in other parts of England it was a principle cejus est solum ejns est usque ad ccelum, yet in Cornwall the right was horizontal and tot vertical—the owner of the surface had no right to anything underneath the surface ; he had no right to work the mines. After some observations from the Lord Chancellor, in support of the Bill, and Lords Cottenham and Monteaglo against it, the Bill was read a third time and passed. The Grand Jury Preaentment (Dublin) Bill was read a third time and passed. NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT —POST OFFICE. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE presented the Se cond Report of the Committee on the progress of the Houses of Parliament, and gave notice that he would to morrow make a motion on the subject. He wished to ask in reference to the Yost-office inquiry what commu nications had taken place between the two Committees ? Lord COLBORNE said that he took all the responsi bility of the report of the Committee on himself, and he would answer for it as a frank and just report. On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, the Commons' amendment to the Insolvent Debtors' Bill were agreed to. COUNTY CORONERS' BILL. Lord WH.A.RNCLIFFE moved that the Commons' amendments to this Bill should be agreed to. Lord BEAUMONT opposed the Bill. He said he never knew a Bill which had the word -" job" mcre italically written on the face of it.—( Laughter.) The fees of the office of 'coroner were already adequate - and there was no excuse for increasing the county rates, ickAgiirge the incomes orthose officers. Marquis of NORMANBY supported the Bill, latilopsd Uss the 1%14004 wouid thruush hi i . ;~; • ` ~'j~ ~/ _ excitement upon this subject, be himself a subject for inquiry in a coroner's court. After a few words from Lord REDESDALE, their Lordships / divided. The numbers were— Contents Non-contents According to the usage of the House, the question was ruled in favour of the non-contents. On the re-admission of strangers to the gallery, we found their Lordships discussing the mode in which it would be most courteous to the House of Commons to communicate their Lordships' rejection of the Commons' amendments. Af, er a desultory conversation the subject was drop ped, but it was not ascertained in the gallery to what understanding their Lordships came. JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES REGULATION BILL. The Joint-Stock Companies Regulation Bill was read a third time, and some verbal amendments having been agreed to it, it was passed. JOINT-STOCK BANK BILL. The Earl of RIPON moved the third reading of the Joint-Stock Bank Bill. Certain suggestions which had been made by the Noble Lord opp )site had been adopted as amendinents in this Bill. Lord MONTEAGLE expressed his satisfaction at the announcement just ma& that certain of his su:rgestiomi had been adopted ; but there were certain other amend ments which he should wish to see introduced. The Joint-Stock Companies Bill gave power to the Lord Chancellor, or Master of the Rolls, to make regulations, such regulations to have the force of law. Now that, he' apprehended, would prevent the Lord Chancellor or Master of the Rolls from rescinding any regulations which they might have made. He wished also to di rect attention to an anomaly which existed between this Bill and the Joint Stock Companies Regulation Bill. By that Bill out-going, directors were elegible for re election, but by this Bill it was enacted that a certain number of directors of such joint-stock bank should go out of office every year, but that they should not be eligible for re-election. Now, he should like to see the principle which had been adopted with regard to joint stock companies in this respect extended to joint-stock banks. It was necessary to the public safety that in all banking concerns there should be a continued and steady system of management ; and he should propose the omission of the words which prevented the re election of those out-going directors. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. The Noble Lord was interrupted in the course of his speech by Messengers from the Commons, who reported that the Commons had agreed to the Lords' amendments of the Poor-law Bill, in the Duchy of Cornwall Bill, and in the Dublin Grand Jury Presentment Bill. JOINT-STOCK BANK BILL The debate on the above Bill was then resumed. Lord MONTEAGLE also objected to the regula tions respecting atuditors. He thought that existing joint-stock banks adopting the regulations of this Bill ought to have their accounts audited by the auditors appointed by the Board of Trade, in the same manner as the newly-formed joint-stock banks. The Noble Lord concluded by moving, as an amendment; that the words prohibiting the re-election of outgoing directors should be omitted. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, the Noble Lord need be under no apprehension as to the regulations, for there could be no doubt but that the Court of Chancery possessed the power of rescinding its own order ; and it might make such orders as it might deem necessary from time to time. The Earl of RIPON objected to the amendment. The object of the provision was to guard against mis management by preventing the affairs of the bank from getting into the hands of a clique. With regard to audi• tors, it should be recollected that the existing joint-stock banks were not liable to the regulations of this Bill. It was extremely desirable, however, that they should be induced voluntarily to submit themselves to its provisions, and he thought the advantages held out to them were such that many of them would be induced to do so ; but if they were compelled to submit their accounts to he audited by auditors appointed by the Board of Trade, he doubted whether they would ever be induced to adopt the provisions of the Bill. After a few words from Lord MONTEAGLE, the amendment was negatived withc,ut a division. Several amendments were then proposed bye the Earl of liteoN, and agre,d to, and the Bill was read a third time and passed. JOINT-STOCK REGULATION AND REGIS. TRATION HILL. Earl DALHOUSIE in moving the third reading or the Joint-Stock Regulation and Registration Bill, proposed some verbal anvndments, which were agreed to. The Bill was then read a third Hal.. and passed. COUNTY CORONERS' BILL • Several of their Lordship were then appointed to manage the conference with the House of Commons on the County Coroners' Bill. After a short time, the managers returned, and The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said that he had left their Lordships' reasons for disagreeing with the Com mons' amendments with the conference appointed by the lliuse of Commons. IRISH FISIIF.RMEN'S BILL. Lord WHARNCLIFVE proposed the third reading of this Bill, in which he made certain amene.ments, which were agreed to. The Bill was read a third time and passed. The Irish Arms Bill was read a third time and passed. The Protection of Purchasers (Ireland) Bill was read a third time and passed.. • - ART-UNIONS BILL. Lord MONTEAGLE thought it would be better that this Bill should not pass at all than that, it should pass without the amendments which their Lordships had agreed to. lie thought it right that all lotteries, as well as art-unions, should be indemnified with regard to the past, but he would resist the making of private lotteries legal in future. He would m sve, that, as far as related to the proprietors of art-unions, that the indemnity should continue up to the Ist of October. The motion was agreed to. STANDING ORDERS. Earl DALHOUSIE moved that Nos. 223, 224, 231, and 232, of the standing orders might be rescinded, in order that others might be substituted in their place to enable them to carry out the Railways Bill. The ohj• et was that railway plans might be first submitted to the Executive Department of the Board of Trade, which would make a report upon them before coming to the Commit tee. This report of the Executive was not to be conclu sive. The alteration would have the t, ffect of limiting the expenses of those who wished to promote railway schemes.—The motion was agreed to. The Commons' amendments to the Roman Catholic Penal Acts Repeal Bill were agreed to. A message from the Commons was then brought by Sir George Clerk and others, that they had ugreed to their Lordships' amendments to the Insolvent Debtors' Bill ; also a message that the Commons did not persist in their disagreement to the amendments made by tht it Lordships in the County Coroners' Bill. Their . Lordships then - adjourned until Half-past Three o'Clock to morrow (this day). '!OUSE OF COMMONS, August 8. The House met at Three o'clock. Mr. MACAULAY presented a petition from Leeds. very numerously and respectably signed, stating that Christianity and civilisation were introduced into ota heite by English missionaries, and praying the llolve to adopt measures to prevent French aggression there. Mr. B. COCIIRANE presented a petition from Lord I)undonald, stating that he had a few years ago disco vered a method for assailing and destroying hostile fleets, and praying that if any premium were allowed for the best method of effecting that result he might be allow d to compete for it. Mr. IVYSE presented petitions from various places in Ireland. praying for an inquiry into the Sate trials. • Dr. BOWRING gave notice that he next ses sion,"move for an inquiry into the Colonill aecanhts,„ i with a view of making a n mprovement in them. LORD ELIOT AND THE PROTESTANT CLERGY. Mr. SHELL said he would take that opportunity of correcting a mis-statement which 'ne had fallen int., the oth.r night in speaking up n the motion made by his lion. Friend, with :regard to the Mucatio.i Board in Ireland. He had stated that the Nt.ble Lord, the Secre tary for Irel ind, had a few years ago imputed the con duct of the Protestant clergy in reference to the system of national education to factious motives. On looking to the report of the - Noble Lord's speech in the various newspapers, he found that he was incorrect. Ile thought it right, of his own accord, to correct the error he had fallen into, and he felt much pleasure in making this reparation to the Noble Lord for the error, which he regretted he had made.—(Hear, hear.) Lord ELIOT thanked the Right Hon. Gentleman for the explanation he had given, lie would take that op portunity of reading to the House a letter which he had received in reference to an individual whose conduct was canvassed in the Wile - debate. (The Noble Lord then read the letter, . which stated that the writer saw with surprise, in the Morning Chronicle, the report of a speech made by Mr. M. J. O'Connel relative to the Bishop of Cashel, who was stated to have told a Protes tant gentleman not to employ Roman Catholics.) Such a statement was wholly without foundation. MERCHANT SEAMEN'S BILL. Mr. SYDNEY HERBERT moved that the Lords' amendments to the Merchant Seamen's Bill be agreed to. Admiral DUNDAS was opposed to the Bill alto gether. It was a most unfair thing to press forward a mea sure of this nature at this late period of the session, when the seaman had had no opportunity of expressing their opinions on the subject. They would, in the course of next session, have the table covered with petitions pray ing for a repeal of the measure. Mr. SYDNEY HERBERT said that the Bill had been well considered, and so far from the m. rchants or seamen being displeased with the measure, he had re ceived several letters expressing their approval of it, and thanking the Government for having introduced it. Captain PECHFJ,L, although he admitted that much misapprehension existed regarding this measure, thought it was most unreasonable to press it forward at the pre. sent time. It was impossible to discuss it properly, or to ascertain the opinions of seamen and shipowners respecting it. It was very well for Hon. Gentlemen op posite to say that the interests of landlords and that of agricultural labourers were identical—that fallacy had been pretty well exposed by his Hon. Friend below him; but the agricultural labourers were now beginning to be awake, to their own interests, and to discover that their interests were concerned in having bread cheap.—(Hear, hear.) So the seamen were well aware that their in terests were not identical with the interests of the ship owners. The House of Lords, by one of their amend- ' ment , , had reduced the amount of re:num-ration to be awarded to seae.en for loss of their provisions from one shilling to eightpenee, thus depriving the .seamen of fourpence. This he apprehended was inte, fering with a money clause, and was an amendment which the Lords • had no right to introduce. He should wish the Speaker to t.ettle that point. The hasty manner in which iv 665.1 -1 1 2Miia rake wilgulisted .:" ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS BILL. Mr. R. YORKE wished to ask the Right lion. Baronet at the head of the Government if it was the in tention of the Government to bring in any mettsure for the reform of the ecclesiastical courts during the next session ? Sir R. PEEL said that considering the little encourage ment that had been given to any Government duriog the last ten years to legislate upon the subject, he must decline answering the quedion.—(Alaugh.) NEWSPAPER STAMPS. Mr. WYSE. seeing the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his place, -Wished to a-k him if it was his inten'ion to consent to a return being made of the number of stamps issued to different newspapers, in continuation of former returns? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had re ceived different complaints from parties connected with newspapers on the subject, and they strongly represented to him that the publication of the returns . 9f the number of stamps issued `to each newspaper was most unjust •to news papers not completely established. It was not his intention, therefore, to consent to the return of the number of stamps issued to ~ a ch individual newspper. The total number of stamps issued would of course be returned as usual. Dr. BOWRING agreed that the question was worthy of serious consideration, and said tie would bring for ward the whole subject early next session. Mr. WAKLEY thought that if any order existed on the subject it ought to be rescinded. These returns opened a door to the perpetration of gross frauds. He had himself taken two stamped publications to the Stamp office, stamped with the same stamp, issued in London on the same day-but the publications diffored in size and the matter contained in them was different. He had asked the Solicitor of the Stamp-office if those two publications were to be considered as cne, and the Solicitor had told him that, in the eye of the law they were considered as one publication. Now the stamps for those two publications had been put forth to the world as one, and thus a gross fraud had been committed on the public; and on the advertisers. He hoped the re turn would never again be made. Mr. WYSE brought up the report of the Committee appointed to draw up the reasons for the Commons dis agreeing to the Lords' amendments In the Arts-Unions Bill. FISHERIES. In answer to a question from Capt. PECHELL, Sir R. PEEL said that, aetin:r upon a convention which had been entered into between this country and France, a law had been passed securing the exclusive right of fishing to each country within three miles of their coasts, and by that law it was rendered penal for any fisherman to infringe its provisions. PR[VH On the motion for the order of the day being read, Mr. T. DUNCOMBE rose to bring under the notice of the House a question of privilege. He alludesi to a debate which had taken place in that House on the affairs of Guernsey, and after complaining of the brevity of the report of that debate which appeared in the newspapers, he stated that he , had re ceived a letter from the Rev. Mr. Dobree, whose name had been mentioned in that House by him (Mr. Dun combe) and also by the Right Hon. Baronet opposite. Two days before be received this letter a commu,tication from Mr. Dobree appeared in the Times newspaper, denying the accuracy of his (Mr. Duncombe's) state ments. The letter which he had received was dated " Forest Rectory, 28th of July, 1844," that day bein.4 Sunday, and it was not for him (Mr. Daneombe) to say whether it was the sort of correspondence which a minister of the Gospel ought to indite on inch a • day. (The Hen. Gentleman then read the 1-tter, which ststel that he ( Mr. Dunconiho) had charged Mr. Dobree with " perjury," and with being " insane," and it call. d tip,•n the Hon. Member to expisin his moaning, and to give his authority, at the same time threatening conse quences if such an explanation sere refused.) Had an explanation been called for from him (Mr. Duncombe), excepting under a threat, he would have been the last person to have refused it. His answer to the Rev. Gentleman's letter was to the following effect : " On my return to town this evening I•Yeeeived your letter with inclosures of the 28th inst. I regret the in temperate character of ydur cotirninnirattiii, which pre cludes the possibility of my giving that explanation which under whet. circumstances I should have felt in• elined to afford." The inclosures were certificates from the Crown Solicitor stud the Lieutenant- Governor. Last night he received another lever from Mr. Dobree, whieh was dated August 6, 1844, in which he said, "I am in reef ipt of your letter of the '2d inst., and if you conceive any previous letti r to you at all intemperate, I beg leave to refer you to Lieut. Ross, who will give you eery explanation or satisfaction you may think fit to require on my behal£ I only regret that the situation which I hold in the diocese of Winchester prevents me from speaking more plainly, and in a tone which you deserve. Your most obedient to command."—(Laughter.) Simultaneously with that le:ter another appeared in the columns of the Times newspaper. "Sir,—Mr. Thomas Slingsby Duncombe, M.P. for Finsbury, having declined to give me any personal ex planation of the epithets of lunatic' and perjurer,' applied to me in the House of Commons on the 23d of July last, although called upon to do so, I beg leave to publish the folloWing proofs of the utter falsehood of his statements, derived from the hif,hest medical, legal, and military authorities ; and I leave to the discernment of the British public to qualify Mr. Duncombe for the future with the titles he .may best deserve. " 1. Mr. Duncombe said (or is reported to hare sai,i), that lam only fit for a lunatic asylum.' Here is my reply : • _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ We, the undersigned, hereby declare that we have known the Rev. Daniel Dobree since his childhood, and that he neither is, nor ever has been, either of unsound mind or weak in intellect. "‘ S. E. HOSKINS, M.D. and F.R.S. 4 " J. O'BRIEN, Surgeon." "2. Mr. Duncombe said (or is reported to have said), that lam a perjurer.' Here is my reply, in the letter of the Crown solicitor himself, who was sent over here to investigate the business in question : " Twytord-house, Winchester, July 26. - "' I cannot coneeive any man, of ordinary intellect, unob scured by party prejudice, accusing or thinking a gentleman in holy orders, of good education and habits, guilty of perjury, merely because a decision has been given inconsistent with the tendency of his evidence. We here every day find con flicting evidence, given by most unexceptionable witnesses; and if perjury, were to be imputed to thiwe of the unstwe, ssful side, half our countrymen would be thought guilty:of a crime which is not, I trust, our prevailing vice. " But leaving these general observations. you ask me whether I think you guilty of perjury? I reply that Ido not. Ido not believe that your statement made to me, and by me repeated to the Lieutenant-Governor, was false. Ido not believe that such statement having since been made by you in court on oath was perjured. "`T. L. DANDIER. "But Nit.. Thacombe thinks fit tolissert that lam I unworthy of credit,' &c. Here is my reply, addressed .to me by General Napier himself:— " Haviland Hall, July 23. "' I'see that yourenemies, as unscrupulous as they are locally powerful, have determined to destroy your cha racter and prospects, I give this testimony in all sincerity of belief in its truth, and in accordance with what I hive more than once written to the Secretary of State for the Home office. From personal observation, from the assurance of Bri tish officers, natives- of Guernsey, and others not nati ves o f, 4 -Buenisey, roth your general character; andifrerm , the straight forward, frank, earne st, and unvaryin g t es ti mony you b are given to me in private, to Mr. Dampier, and in my presence at the so-called secret inquest of the Royal Court, I have ' the most implicit confidence in the truth ofyour depositions. I feel 'sure that you are totally incapable of falsehood, and that perjury is as incompatible with your In tions of honour, as it is incompatible with your sacred character of a minister of the Gospel. All persons of honourable minds who know you, must start with indignation and horror at the infamous attempts now made to charge vou with such a crime. " • W. NAI I I ER, Lieutenant-Governor. " To the Rev. Daniel Dobree.' " And now, Sir, pray tell me what is Mr. ThomaS Sling-by- Duncutnhe?—l am, Sir, your obliged and grate ful servant, " DANIEL DOBREE, M.A., " Rector of the Forest and Turteval, Guernsey. "Forest Rectory, Aug. 6." Now he (Mr. Duncombe) thought he was justified in asking the Government whether they sanctioned the Crown Solicitor Taking any part in this personal squabble between the Rev. Mr; Dobree and himself. It would be recollected that - he appeared there in the discharge of his public duty. He knew nothing of any of these parties—he was merely the channel of communica tion between that House and the great body of the people of Guerrisey. Mr. Dobree had charged those people with disaffection and disloyalty ; a charge which he (Mr. I.)uicombe) knew to be quite unfounded. It had been proved in a court of justice that Mr. Dobree was unworthy of credit. %What he (Mr. T. Duncombe) complained of was, that when he moved for the correspondence which had taken place between the authorities of Guernsey and the Right Hon. Baronet, he should be told that the production of that correspondence would be injurious to the pubic service, and yet the Crown-Solicitor and the Lieutenant- Governor of Guernsey should he allowed from time to time to refer to it in the newspapers. Ife thought it but just that the correspondence_ shtuld produced, or that .it should not be referred to by a subordinate of the Government, such as he apprehended Mr. Dampier was. As to the charges which he (Mr. Duncombe) had made, he could only say that he was borne out by the local press of Guernsey, which teemed every iiteek. with charges against Mr. Dobree, and which defied thaCgentleman to indict them for libel. He (Mr. Duncombe) wished to know whether the Govern ment sanctioned its officers mixing themselves up with such matters as these ? Sir J. GRAHAM said that it was evidently late in the session, or the Hon. Gentleman would never have taken up half an hotir of their time to discuss such a question as this. If the Hon. Gentleman had asked him whether the letter which had been addrea'ed to him was a letter a clergyman, ought to have written, he should have said at once that it was not. But if the Hon. Gen tleman r-ally thought it was worth while to enter into a discussion on this matter, he was bound to say that he ontertaineal a very different opinion. lie thought it was unworthy !if prolonged di , cussion in that Hou,e. The Hon. Gentleman stated that Mr. Dampier was in the employment of .the Government. Now, the Hon. Gentleman Ought to be better intOrtned ! before he made his accusations, Mr. - . Dampier held no situation under G. tvernment. sent to Guernsey .to.itAltire into the le ate of effairs i t i Ze inson sequence of the n forn a 54; - Lica 4 )41!afirvil, 444 le4- _ THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY ii',iVENING. AUGUST 9, 1e44 to excite suspicions that there was some object in view, which the Government was afraid should come to the knowledge of the seamen. Meetings had been held on the subject of the merchant seamen at Newcastle, at Liverpool, and nt Bristol, and he protested against the Bill being pressed forward in this manner. On the question that the Lords' amendments be agreed to being put, Captain PECHELL said—No, I cannot agree to the eightpence ; but, the Hon. and Gallant Officer standing alone in his opposition, the amendments were agreed to. the trial to which the Hon. Gentleman referred. Having finished that inquiry, he was as independent of any relation with the Government as was the Hon. Gentleman him self. With regard to the conduct of the Government, he had never read the letter to which the lion. Gentle. man referred. lie had never seen or heard of it till the present occasion. His time was too much occupied to read the Guernsey Press, from which the Hon. Gentle man quoted so largely'. The Government had known Mr. Dobree, but the Honourable Gentleman had not ; he' had formed his opinions on greunds wltich the Honourable Gentleman had not, and he stated that hi. thought Mr. Dobree was a sane and a true man, and, being of that opinion, he could not say it was at ali in consietent with his duty to certify to that effect. He thought the Hon. Gentleman should be therefore mare certain of his information. The Hon. Gentleman had also a few days ago stated that Sir J. Walsham had interfered as a poor-law Commissioner in Durham and Northumber land, anti had. introduced Welsh labourers to defeat the colliers, who stool nut for hiuher wages. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE. said he did not say that. He had read a paragraph from the local paper which he held in his hand at the time, and he wished , to know from the Hen. Gentleman whether it was true. It was be cause he did not know that it was true that he made the inquiry. With regard to another point, the R ght Hon. Gentleman hal made another misstatement. Sir JAM GRAHA3I sail that Sir J. Walsham had interfered as a poet , law-comtnissioner to put down the strike for wages in a town with which he hail no connexion. He (Sir J. Graham) stated that Sir J. Wals ham had been an assistant poor-law commissioner, and had resided in Northumberland—that he was a pro prietor both in Lancashire and South Wales, and that he might. as auindividual, have intim:K:l persoes to t.TO to - those places and obtain wage:. He did not mean to say that it was in the least dishenieirahlo for an indivi dual. He had not then seen Sir J. Walsham, but he had since an opportunity of referring to hi n. and he was authorised by Sir J. Walsham to say that he had never directly or indirectly interfered in his individual capa city in the manner alleged. Nothing., therefore, could be more unqualified than his contradiction of the statement. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he had never stated that he had received positive information. He had founded his question on a paragraph in the newspapers, and lie had asked him whether it was true or not. The Right IL in. Baronet had also fallen into an error in supposing that it was he who stated that Mr. Dampier was the Crown solicitor, it was Mr. Daniel Dobree who had stated this in his letter to the Times. CAPITAL PUNISHMENTS. Mr. BROTHERTON wished to ask the Right lion. Baronet, the Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment, whether it was in the contemplation of her Majesty's Government to introduce any Bill in the next session of Parliament, either to tally to abolish capital punishments, or to extend the number of cases (if exemption from that punishment? fie was quite convinced that these public exhibitions had a very injurious effect on public morals, and the melancholy occurrence which had taken place at Nottingham was a full proof of that. If the House would permit him, he would just read an extract fr im a letter which he had received.—(Cries of " No, no.") He really thought it was more worthy of the attention of the House than some :subjects which were intro duced in that House. (The Hon. Member then read an extract from a letter relating to the accident which had just occurred on the occasion of an execution, in which thirteen persona lost their lives) ; and said he wished to know whether it was the intention of her Ma jesty's Government to introduce any measure to put an end to these disgraceful exhibitions. which,in his opinion, did not tend to prevent crime, but only to harden the minds of the people ? Sir J. GRAHAM said he had no hesitation whatever in telling the Hon. Gentleman that her Majesty's Go vernment had no intention to introduce any measure en that subject. His opinion was entirely the reverse of that expreesed by the Hon. Gentleman, as regarded the moral effect of executions in cases of murder. At the same time, he Must express his deep regret at the fatal occur rence which had taken place at Nottingham ; though he must say he had never heard attinference which appeared to him to have so little foundation, as that this fatal catastrophe was at all to be ascribed to the bad moral effect of a public execution.—(Hear, hear.) The event might have occurred at a horse race, or even, through sudden panic, in a chapel. He repeated that he had no intention of proposing either the ab anion or the re missien in certain cases of capital punishments. Mr. BROTHERTON said he had made no inference like th.t which the lion. Gentleman hail mentioned. The Rumen Catholic Penal Acts Relief Bill was read a third time and passed. Sir R. PEEL 'laid on the table papers relating to the slime-treele ; aleo papers relating to Captain Warner's experiment. CAPTAIN WARNER'S EXPERIMENT AT BRIG HTON. Captain PECHELL observing that a portion of the pipers which the Right Hon. Baronet had laid on the table consisted of the correspondence with Captain Warner, would ask him a question on the subject. He did not man to say that Captain Warner was a fit sub ject for a limatic asylum, but he would state to the House certain facts which had come to his knowledge. He hall received a model of a vessel from Shoreham, the port from which the ship destroyed by Capt. Warner had sailed ; and from that it appeared the ship had ropes fitted on board her, fastened from stem to stern, and that after the process it appeared that from 150 to 200 fathoms of line had been allow!' overboard from thq steam-vessel, show ing that a direct communication had been established be tween the steam-ve3sel and.the ship. He wished to know if the Government had received from the naval officers any communication calculated - to explain or to affirm the suspicions which most people entertained with regard to that experiment. The fact was, it was generally looked upon as a complete humbug. Sir R. PEEL had seen the reports which had been made to the Admiralty upon the subject by naval officers ; but those officers had. not been admitted into any very close communication with the vessel , . He could not either confirm, or deny the report to which the Hon. and Gallant Member had referred. The ex periment, he took it for granted, had been performed in the manner in which Captain Warner represented ; but with respect to the ropes he had had no opportunity of satisfying himself on the subject in such a manner ai to enable him to answer the question, not that he meant to imply that the vessel had been blown up in any other way than the one which had been represented. If the Hon. Gentleman had read the correspondence, he would see that it was not likely that he (Sir R. Peel) would enter into any incautious engagement.—(Laughter.) He would not give 400,0001., or ever. 100,0001., for the blowing up of a vessel, with out having that vessel pretty closely examined before hand—(Laughter)—but he again repeated, that he did not mean to insinuate that there had been any unfair proceeding on the part of Captain Warner. CASE OF THE CONVICT SIMPSON. Mr. WAKLEY said he had had papers to present from Mr. Humphrics, the solicitor, on the subject Of a convict named simp.Fon, which he had submitted to the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home De partment; that Right Hon. Gentleman had stated that he saw nor, anon for interfering, and then he had determined him to bring the subject before the House ; but, since he had entered the House, the light Hon. Gentleman had stated that he thought there were points in the case des..rving of consideration, and, thezefure, he would not trouble the House on the subject. Sir J. GRAHAM thought there was one important fact in the case which had not received the attention it ought. He considered the Hon. Gentleman had exer cisal a sound discretion in acting as he had done. LAW OF SETTLEMENT. Sir d. GRAHAM rose --- tOrWtlei.7.-ieave to bring in a Bill for the alteration of the law of settlement. They had had many important discus.ions on the poor-law, but this was a stit,j,. Ct of the utmost importance. Within theii.st 'ext. 12,000 orders of removal had been made for English paupers, and 5,000 for Scotch and Irish ; and in the wholc! 19,000 orders of removal had been issued, under which 45,000 — p;;;;;had been removed. 'lle House we uld do well to consider the immense quant;ty of human suffering which was inflicted by these orders of removal. It had been observed by Adam Smith that there vs as 1,0 poor man in England, who had at tained forty years t,f age, who had not Ie: son complain of the lau of settlement. It was an important and diffi cult subject, and the course which he proposed to take was, to repeal all the statutes at present in existence on that subject, and to legislate de novo. He should propose to the House, th, ref,re, an Act, re gulating the law of settleinent, and the appeal on the order of removal. The subject was naturally divided into three branches—the settlement itself, the power of removal,and the law respecting the appeal upon the orler. First, with respect to existing settlements, he proposed wherever there had been an order of removal, and a fixed settlement, that that settlement should not be disturbed. He then proposed to repeal the existing Acts of Settlement, which, he believed, were no less than nine in number. Settlements were now gained by marriage, by apprenticeship, by rent ing a tenement, by paying rates, by serving an office, and, last of all, by birth. Hiring at ser vice was another mode of gaining a settlement, which was, however, still somewhat in dispute. His proposi tion was, that henceforth birth, and birth only, should give a settlement, and that the place of birth should be held to be the place of settlement. Failing proof of the place of birth, he proposed to admit proof of a derivative settlement in the second degree. First, he proposed to admit the tether's settlement, and fail ing that, the settlement of the mother. He would not carry the derivatke settb ment any fartlur, and he proposed that the settlement of the grand father and the • grandmother should no longer •be received. He proposed that the regi-ter of births and deaths, and the register of baptisms, should be ad mitted as proofs of birth ; and that a married woman should not be removed from her husband's settlement during her husband's life. He had now exhausted the first branch of the subject. He had thought that settlement by birth Wai the most simple and that the derivative ettlement, in ttte first degree from the father and mo.her, wis also the mo , t simple, the most sure, and the most advisable. He now e'►me to the second branch of his subject. Two c;Jer:ncesihen took place on the C ":unty Coro ners' Bill and the Art-Unions Bill, in which the House of Lords disagreed with the House of Commons. LAW OF SET I'LEMENT. Sir J. GRAHAM. then resumed his arguments with respect to this Bill. He pr/posed that parties Should be irremovable under the following circumstances :—First, he proposed that men who resided in or near a parish for five years, and who had not been guilty of felon t• or , mis demeanour shoulJ be irremovable ; this applied to Irish and Scotch paupers!' Secondly, no woman who resided with her husband at the time of his death, in a parish in which he'had been settled. shouA be removable after the death of her husband to her own parish. Thirdly, no widow, whether living in her husbani's parish or elsewhere, should be removable until twelve mimtlis after his death. Wkiaali? 4.19 Isoit4ste Slims PArvediAgito .. . _ s . father's death under 16 years of age, and no illegitim a t e child shall be removed under 16 from its mother. Fifthly, no person who became chargeable throUgh sickness or accident should be " removable till they received re lief for forty days consecutively. All psrsons were to be relieved where they were resi . dent, irrespective of settlement. With regard to the order for removal, he proposed that the overseer of the removing parish should send a copy of the order and a statement of the grounds on which it was made within seven drays. This statement was to contain not a copy of the •examinations—(Hear, hear)—but a statement of the grounds of removal. Then the parties receiving this statement •of the grounds of removal are to have 21 days after the receipt of the notice to determine whether they would resist the removal or not, and then if they determined, after the expiration of twenty-one days, not to object to the removal, but to the order, they were compelled to send a statement of the reasons of ohjec. :ion. They would then have statement of 'the reasons on which the removal had taken place, anti a counter statement of the reasons upon which the removal wss objected to. And having obtained those statements both parties should he concluded by them. and upon t he hearing of the appeal, they would not be at liberty to adduce other grounds. The overseers of the removitr.7 parish, if they had no notice of appeal given, might remove at the e:al of forty days after notice of removal had been r iven. The House would observe that there was great difficulzy with respect to the removal of Scotch and Irish paupers, because they were removed, not to a parish or district', but to a country. He proposed th a t r u les s ho u ld b e framed by justices in their respective, districts, which shoul 1 provide, as far as possible, for the removal of Scotch and Irish paupers to the parts or places of their birth and residence. It would be then their duty to remove them, as far as as circum•- stanc:'s would admit, to the nearest place to that of -their birth. He was anxious to introduce - a power of appeal with respect to the removal of Scotch and Irish paupers, and he proposed to'do this .by in serting the following words When any removal shall have taken placeon illegal grounds. either to Scotland or Ireland, on the representation of local bodies or of parties having an interest in the matter of removal, on representation to the Poor-law Commissioners, they shall have the power to cause an appeal to be made at the sessions against the order of removal, and if the order is quashed, the parish ob taining the order shall pay all the casts of removal, and shall also pay the costs of bringing back the party re moved to the parish from whence he or she was so re moved." He had now stated the leading provisions of the Bill. It was one which would require the utmost attention. He was not so vain as to think that it would not meet with many objections ; but, between country and country, he had endeavoured to hold the balance fairly, and he was quite satisfied that the provisions of this Bill, as regarded the Scotch and Irish, were most salutary and humane. He must now repeat whet he had stated at the commencement, that if this arrangement should be adopted, the effect would be to place the whole law in a much simpler and clearer form than it was at present ; and though there might be many objections to the details, he believed that to the principle of the !nett sure there could be no solid objection. • Mr.' , HAWEq. expressed his satisfaction with the measure of the Right Honourable Gentleman.; and read a letter detailing the sufferings of the Scotch and Irish paupers while being removed to their parishes and homes, that showed that no attention was ,paid to the condition of these unfortunate paupers when they weer removed. He thought the provisions of the prote.seil Bill would greatly lessen the number of paupers to be removed, and he hoped power would be given to the Poor-law Commissioners to see that a proper person should be appointed to super. intend the embarkation of these paupers, so that they might not be left utterly destitut He hoped every Hon. Member would well consider the Bill during the recess, and he, for one, should come to. the discussion of it, rather with a view to assist the Right Hen. Baronet in his attempts to amend the existing law, than in a spirit of opposition to the Government. Mr. BROTHERTON thought that if the money that was expended in law was laid out on the peor, it would be much better. Mr. %VAKLEY thought the Government had shown an honet.t intention in introducing the Bill. Mr. WYSE said that the Bill was calculat , d to re move many of the grievances that now existt-I with re spect to the law as it at present stood. He thout:ht the course pursued by the Government with re.p.•ct to this Bill was worthy of following. After some further observations, Sir J. GRAHAM thanked the House for the attention it had given to the measure, and he agreed with the lion. Member for Finsbury (Mr. Wakley) that th«. Hon. Member for Salford was mistakAt in thinking the burden of supporting the po.,r would rest on the manufacturing districts. The Bill would have hn en tirely different effect ; for if the Iltniiur7 ble Mt mb,r would closely examine its workings, he would tind that each district and parish, would he obliged to support the poor persons who could prove that they had been born within its or within its jorisdicti.m. The measure would also attend to the evil the Member who had spoken List had referred to, as a clause would be found in the' Bill compelling every parish and county to romme Irish pamper;. Captain PECEIELL thought that the Gov«,rnuient were entitled to the gratitude of the country for.intro ducing the measure, and he entld not see that any fault could be found with its details. Leave was then given to brine in the Bill. , QUARTER SESSIONS. Sir J. GRAHAM moved for leave to bring, in a Bill to regulate the appointment and payment of clerks and other officers of the courts of petty and griartt-r sessions of t',e peace, Dyer and terminer, and gaol delivery. After some discussion, leave was given to bring in the Bill ; and it was then read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time that day three months. POOR-LAW BILL. The Lords' amendments to this Bill were brought up, and agreed to after some discussion. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A message from the L.►rds hniught up several Bills. A RT-UNIONS. On the motion of Sir J. GRAHAM, the Lords' amendments to the Art-Unions Bill was ordered to b taken into consideration to-morrow. Conferences took place on several Bills with the Lords, and among them was the Insolvent Debtors' MIL in which the Lords agreed to the amendments of the Commons. The Haase adjourned at Nine o'clock till t;;-morrow at Half-past Three o'clock. --- POLICE INTELLIGENCE. (YESTERDAY.) MANSION-HOUSE. Augustus Halifax, the young man who was, on Sa turday last, examined upon the charge of baying uttered a forged cheque for 651., purporting to be drawn by Wm. Edward Western, of Great Jame-street. Bedford row, upon the house of Sir H. C. Glyn, Halifax, and Co., was brought up in the custody of John Forrester, for final examination. Mr. Bush attended for' the pro secution, and Mr. Humphreys app-ared fir the prisoner. Mr. Edward Western added the following to his former evidence :—The cheque stated to be forged was marked and numbered B X 1199, and th note prodneed for 10Z, No. 56,322, had the words upo.i it "James Mar tineau, 9, Wiliam -street, isEngt( n.' These words were. he believed, in the handwriting of the prisoner ; at least they bete a resemblance to his handwriting. Mr. Charles Francis Western, brother and partner to the last witness, stated that he knew the prison , r's hand writing. He had examined the cheque for 6/, and the 101. Bank of England note, and he believed the writing in the body of the cheque, with the exception of the signa ture, and the indorsement of the bank note to be the writing of the prisoner. The signature to the cheque was excessirely like his brother's, but upon /dose exami- , nation he thought it was not his brother's. The prisoner. had been in his office about a year, but he had left it about two years ago. He had since he left their em ployment occasionly been engaged in writing for the firm. He had a Chancery suit in which he was in terested. The last time witness saw the prisoner ut the office was on the 221 t,f July, when he brought home some writing. In answer to questions from Alderman T. wooD, the witness said he thought his brother was in town on Sunday, and that the cheque-book was generally kept io his brother's office. Alderman T. WOOD—Won Id the prisoner, if he brought home any writing on that day. have hail access to your brother's office ? Witness—He might have gone in, but he ought not to go in at all. The cheque produced had been torn out of the end of the cheque-book. and Was not a corsecutive cheque. Mr. Mead statill that he had been clerk to Messrs. Western eighteen years. He had known the prisoner several years. The prisoner had been a clerk in the house, had left the employment between two and three years, but had occasionally since that time done home writing for the house. Witness was well acquainted with the prisoner's handwriting, and believed the writing in the middle of the cheque to be his writing ' disguised, as well as the date. The signature very much resembled Mr. Western's. He could not . state in whose handwriting the signature was. It resembled Mr. Edward Western's very much, but he did not believe it to be his. Witness believed the name and address on the Bank note to be also in the prisoner's :handwriting disguised. He had frequently seen the cheque-book in the offices of the partners. Witness had seen the prisoner at the house on the 24th of July, and from or:e to four days previously. Mr. Humphreys did not consider it necessary to ask the witnesses any questions. but asked the Alderman whether he thought the evidence sulHeient to justify him in sending the case to the jury ? Alderman 'l'. Woon said, in his opinion, there was enough to take before a jury, and committed the pri soner for trial at the Central Criminal Court. RAILROAD TO FALMOUTH IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTH DEVON RAILWAY.—A meeting of the subscribers to this undertaking was held on the 6th instant, at Truro, at which the Earl of Falmouth presided, and was supported by Sir Charles Lemon, Bart., M.P., E. W. W. Pendarves, Esq.' M.P., Edmund Turner, Esq., M.P.. and many other influen tial gentlemen of the county. The report of the p rov i s i ona l ' committee was read, which gave a summary of its proceed ings since the time of its appointment in January last, and I embraced Captain Moorsom's report of his survey, and Mr. Bond's on the traffic to be expected, which was founded on actual observations during fourteen successive days and nights, at twenty-three stations betiveen Plymouth and Fal mouth. In claculating the amount of traffic deduced there from, he had the assistance of Mr. Fisher, who was employed by the Great Western Company to ascertain the traffic on the South Devon line. These investigations make it appear that the undertaking will yield a handsome per centage'on the capital required, and the meeting authorised the committee to take the needful steps to insure the construction of- the railway at the earlieit possible period. The meeting sepa rated =dor the persuasion that the be applied for at 'AP SASPOSOit ef - P o .4o;g9te • - •EXTRAORDIN A itY HOUSES. A letter has been received from Mossul, of June 9, giving some details relative to the expedition undertaken by M. Bette, the French Consul of that place, and M. Flandin, an artist, to explore the ruins of ancient Nineveh. The ac count says :—" The works are going on actively at Khorsa bad (a modern village, built on the site of the old capital). and the sculptures continue to present the same characteristic trait—everything warlike, and nothing appertaining to reli gion. We cannot yet form any idea of the pl an o f t h ese buildings, although we have laid bare two halls, 108 feet in length, and a number of smaller rooms. Khorsabad is built overone corner ofan immense quadrangular inclosure, formed of walls built of bricks, bearing inscriptions, with towers at regular distances. The whole military and civil life of the Assyrians could be made from the buildings and inscriptions winch remain lo•re. We have hitherto not experienced any opposition from the authorities ; though they in their igno rance imagine that to find treasure must be our object. We have a quantity of objects to send home, as soon as our Am bassador at Constantinople furnishes us with means of trans port by the Tigris." - - A CANDID CONFESSION. —An informer, named John Shanahan, upon whose testimony two men were exe cuted for murder at a former assizes in North Tipperary, was again produced as a witness at the last assizes, to prose cute a man, named Wade, as being concerned in the same crime. In the course of this wretch's cross-examination, lie candidly stated that " he was a perjurer, a robber, and a mur derer ;" and, moreover, that the murdered lean never did anything to him ; that he went • to his wake, saw the man lying dead, and " smoked over the body if his victim." FATAL ACCIDENT—BRAAIBER.—We have to re cord a melancholy accident that occurred at the turnpike , gate near the Castle last Sunday evening, between six and ten o'clock. Mrs. Wii:ton, the wife of the renter of the tolls and keeper of the gate, went out to open the gate and let a donkey chaise through, and whilst standing there, and al most before the chaise had passed through the gate, she was knocked with great violence against the gate-post by a a horse which was drawing a four-wheel chaise, and coming from the direction of Steyning. The poor woman fell, and was removed to her house. where sire survived only two hours, and never spoke during that time. It is supposed that the collar of the horse cult. in contact with the poor woman's chest. After s .patiefff investigation,' the jury re turned a verdict of " Accidental Death," with a deodand of ss, thlainst the horse, a hack hired with the chaise of a horse muter in Brighton, who .has had hiul iu work fur az years. . prioliton Guardian" y T THE QUEEN AND INFANT PRINCE. " - THE BANK CHARTER. ~,ii FORM OF PRAYER AND THANKSGIVING. The num.reus elucidations that have fromlwii The following is the Form of Prayer and Thanks- time appeared in the columns.of The Sun upon ti ke i giving to Almighty God f o r the saf e Delivery of the ! ject ..t . :he !lank Charter ret•iewal, and the ltdl l° ,t Queen and the happy Birth of a Prince, to be used at i sumptions of Sir Robert Peel, will receive birth'lMorning and Evening Servic. , , after the General Thanks- I firmation from a small pamphlet that has just t r i so giving, in all Churches and Chapels in England and ' (omt. c-ni., .r.• I with currency dissertations in "e 1 Wales, and in the town of B erw i c k- urn -Tweed, up;a: I.- . :•:-., : . '.....;:t e d tlmt it is of a very novel 63 4 Sunday, the 11th day of .August instant, or the Sunday : ey , z , •H -- r e .foliettiry System, illustrated in after the respective Ministers of such Churches a , !;! -r M1,1,-. by W. Vigo." These - tables are can Chapels shall receive the same , • ~•, ni .!;e : -ghtb of a grain upwards in jux. ,,.. ; 10 l ot 0 merciful Lord and he a v en ly Father, by wlio:,e ' s' , 'o , ing the relative value of,bulliOn, grid and s' e 4 gracious gift m a nkind is i ncrease d, we most humbly offtr ' this and a ll nati ons , t o Eaglish standard vsl" ' unto Thee our hearty th an k s f or Thy great goo d ness also the value of the nominal pound sterliaß ' vouchsafed to Thy people, in delive t ing Thy servant our suggestions for the correction of the present rs' Sovereign Lady the Queen from the perils of child- systeth. To the full extent of any particular' ass birth, and giYing her the bl e ssin gs o f a son . C ont i mse , a d vocated or propounded by an in d iv i dua l. we sti we beseech thee, Thy fatherly care over her ; support course tot expected to go, but thus much "v tea til and .comfert her in the hours of weakness, and diy that Mr. Vigo is much clearer in his interpretsre by day renew her s t reng th. P q rcsi.rve the infa, Prime various points that seemed to puzzle tt,e gr'e'at c e t t l t, front what ever i s h ur tf u l e i t h er t,, b o dy o r sou l ; and, en- doctor himself when he so frequently vociferat op due him, as he advances in years, with true wi'- assembed Commons, "What is the pound ? ! than and every Christian virtue. Regard- with i s t h e nv.aiting of the pound ?" " Why," ; 711 Thine especial farcur our Q ueen ' an d h er H oye ! Vigo justly ' remarks, " not at once gym'tb, Consort, that th e y may long live together in the th e nominal ' pound st e rling' is m e rely a "►- gi' enjoyment of all earthly happiness, and may finally order from Government, that from and aftor m illi be ma , •le partakers of ever l ast i ng g l ory. Imptant day the pound sterling shall contain s o manY g 0 in the hearts of Thy p eol. l e a d eep sense of Thy i gold or silver (or bull). Admit the fact, th e ire , Manifold. mercies, and give its grace to show forth our once, viz., that the ' pound sterling' ever has be t e ; ) thankfulness by dutiful a ffe c ti on to our S overe i gn, b y ever must be, changed and altered to meet t h e 5 , if e , brotherly love one towards another, a n d by constant circumstances of the nation." The effect of thee obedience to Thy coinnistidnients ; so that, - passing value affixed to the standard, as regards og i . r oatO through this life in Thy f a ith an d f ear , we . may in The ' trade, is rather" aptly illustrated in the " life to comea be received into Thy heavenly kingdom, e x tr ae t s: — 'O lt through the merits and mediati on o f Th y Bl essed S on '. It is nri . At clearly proved by figures (queer f,' f. Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen." quarrel with); that the nation is suffering in her ol d trade nearly as much from the error in her star i ,t,i" from the weight of her national debt, together , s' f al) i stated, 18 per cent. within a fraction. Ma n /41 persons will cry out, th ! but ad this si , settled by the exchanges ; nothing c o f so fallacious, it is only the balance. „ er l, account betwe,n nations—the growth, inatun'thet' or pro:.luce, of a nation, can never be affa.ted hI 0 changes ; for instance, a demand for any part of the.world, say a famine in the Meditellet o'. and two vessels shall start (the one from P"' d , other from Calais,) leden with wheat, ari Y‘ I arrive at their destination at the same tini e ' d bli what would be the risult ? Why, tht, .Fr e ,e id would be able to sell his cargo 15 or 18 I ~,i' cheaper than the Englishman, and would , c o ; a good profit, and return. The other not liki , g .no t/ criti,e, must lay on a few days. till presently .',A vessel or two arrives from Holland or elsewher e , even cheaper than the F renc h man ; t h e poo r 0' man, whom the natives by this time look uPn ii e ti, cheat, who having heard of their famine ciirliirl 10 . their port taking advantage of their distress, by tr force from them a price far beyond the fair ` •, h b a .the corn, is at last compelled to cut and run aela , ,el like a dog with his tail in a split stick, having t;o:t w , : I great way to get himself punished. No' , ,,i t )t :he exchanges have to do with this ? So it 11 and" her foreign transactions—England is derided ay ° by every nation on the globe. be fl " Now, in the year 1819 our pound sterling , a s m o i ir • stated, ought to have been 103,891 grains or l'rt': stead of 123,274. What foreigner will take oli e stt; while he can get a profit o f twenty g rains on ev er fkr sterling (ablut 154 per cent.) and no trouble ? , d i sell him no goods by which he can get half .I 1131 ;(,;0; " Further, to prove h , .w very erroneous the sn e l our Ministers are a ith respect to the exch 14 , Or o before stated, it is not in balancing our legitialslii,it,,; that England is worsted, that is a passive tri ii r, thing, arbitrary and adjusting itself ; but 'it ti f 4 ,1 , 1° standard or difference of valise of the median - I ( ; s dor, nations, that the permanent serious injury ' o li , ': : to the nation. To illustrate, I will take Franrenot; our nearest neighbour, but.the same rule will 14 li e ce every nation on the globe. The one-franc 1,,,i/i Buonaparte is 72 grains of silver ; now standt o l .7o 3/. 1.75. 104 d. per ounce, is einal to 1,972,3 84 M silver, which divided by the 72, but gold at 87'27, equal to 1,309, divided by 7 2 :0 is equal to a'i,eq",, to 18f. 13c. Our exporters, therefore, receive I' l ' when they ought to receive 200 f. ;nste s3 b! " The exporters receive 27 francs 28 cents., ;;;:, ; . 0 , 18 francs 13 cents.—this- is at the extreme. S'„oli!;1 : is w..iy of illustration, to make it clear, the differ 7, o :b7 . j 30 per cent., if done at 103,891 grains of :4 01 " 00 eri ought to have been our standard, it woula c 0, 0 4- - 22 francs 61 cents, about 154 per cent. ; from firo o it is clear that France and other nations ealij / s/ and undersell us in any commodity, as before s c u rrr p , " Ily sections 10, 11, and 12 of the precious d or,i Bill of 1819, all restriction on melting down in re cea' d f ng-the coins. was t ,ken off. Having by the r Ob i ;eetions raised the value of the said coins o tes cent., as near as possible, above the f a ir and jes t i b is:o value of the last twenty years preceding, oar opening the,floodtgate for scrambling and gate" a vengeance." The greicest excitement continues to prevail in the neighbourhood of Wept-street, Smithfield, and the ap plications to Mr. Wakelitig, the Vestry-clerk of St. James's, Clerkenwell, are h-Toming more numerous daily for admission to view the two strangely con structed houses at the northern end of New Furring don-street. Up to the last Middlesex S ess i ons t h e houses were inhabited by persons of dishonest and aban doned habits, but by the active measur es o f M r . Wake ling and th e Commissioners appointed to carry out the intended improvements in this neighbourhood, pos session was obtained of the property, on compensating the freeholders. Since then some strange discoveries have been made, the publication of. which has alike excited the- ettee tion of Loyalty and parties moving in the higher walks of literature. On Saturday, at three o'clock, Lord Lonsdale, accompanied by two friends, arrived from his residence, No. 15, Carlton-terrace, and inspected the houses, one of which, Na.. 3, is stated to have been the residenc: • of the notorious- Jonethan Will. Iris Lordship and friends ware shown over the premises by one o f t h e men in possession, and they expressed their astonishment that such a place could have so long existed in the heart of the m-tropolis. 0;1 the previous day his Royal Highness the Duke of Cam bridge and a distinguished party inspected the various 'places of concealment and contrivances for carrying on an extensive system of plunder, and appeared to take a deep interest in everything that was pointed out to them. The rooms on that occasion were lighted up by means of illumination lamps, to facilitate the view of the royal party. A brief description of the premises may not be un interesting. The houses, Nos. 2 and 3, communicate with each other, and are at the west sid:, of the Fleet ditch. . The latter house was kept as a chandler's shop, by way of lading suspicion, and immediately behind the counter were the trap-doers, one of whiei. was used as a means of escape, and the ether i - KIN] into secret drawers or depository for stolen articles. Passing down the I.4rger trap, the pmeued could elude the vigilance of the police, by getting through a window and crossing the Fleet-ditch over a plank, which was kept at hand, and afterwards lawn into the opposite house. The pursued might then pass into Black Boy-Alley, and thereby get into Cow-cross, and the numercus courts and alleys in that neighbourhood. Immediately antler the basement there is a capacious dark cellar, evidently constructed e• the purl:vises of eon; cealeient; and here it is where a skull and some faunae bones wer. found, and given over to the police. Thu: top of a butcher's steel has also been. discovered, which has studded in silver letters the following upon it " Benjamin Turtell. Judy 19, -1787." At the wee tern extremity of the cellars, and near to where iVilliams, the convicted sweep, was concealed, is a flirting wall, which, on being searched, left no doubt that there is another secret chamber beyond this portion of the premises, but owing to some legal difficul ties, this part of the houses has not hitherto been, explored. The cell of Williams is a wretched excavation in the rough earth, arid, as one of the Sheriffs who visited the place remarked, was setficient to induce him to give him-elf up, and prefer the horrors of transportation. Upon the first floor of the building are several hiding places ingeniously contrived. In one room a sharp angle is formed et the corner, sufficiently- large to conceal a per son, which is effectually done by replacing the screen cor responding with the other part of the wall. Numerous traps are made in the various floorings, and have a direct communication with the cellar on the back of the Fleet-ditch, and a spout running the entire length of the house is so constructed that stelen property could be re moved with the greatest dispatch, and the offenders escape over the roofs of the houses, which are connected b) means of a drawbridge. A private still had been fixed in the basement story, and there is no doubt that some curious discoveries will be made on a closer examination of these remarkable premises. - Many of this visitors di. not hesitate to deprecate the imperfect system of police. which, with its detective officers and all appliances, suf fered such an abomination so long to exist. Several artists. fin- sortie days past, have been en gaged in taking sketches of the premises. A disgrace ful system of extortion was being carried en by certain parties in possession of the houses, until it reached the ear of Mr. Wakeling:, who promptly suppressed it. The Commissioners are desirous of making it publicly known that no parties have been sanctioned to receive gratuities. EVIL OF OVER-FEEDING CHILDREN.—On Tuesday Mr. Waltley, M.P., concluded an adjourned inquest al the Elephant and Castle, King's-road. Saint Pancras, ou the body of a female infant, a fortnight old, the off- . towing of Harriet Colby, a single woman. Th e c hile t in the workhouse on Wednesday morning last. having been admiAed with the mother on the Thurs day previous. On , admission the child was in a filthy and emaciated condition, and there was prima . fiteie evidence that it had been maltreated by its parent. lit nee a searching inquiry on the part of the Co roner. The result, however, was that the mother had not behaved ill towards thir offspritrz, but that irom po verty and consequent debility, she was not able to at tend to it properly. Mr Cooper, the workh use surgeon. said deceased died of -itianliol, the calls. , of ss hich h. could not ascertain. The ha.l not been stint,: in food, and he knew that, welkly children were ofte , killed by over-feeding. roo much food given to small, delicate children produced starvation in a medical sense. He himself had a child which, at, a month old, only weighed 41b. 50z., and he hail caved it by allowing it very little food; indeed, so little, that, in the opinion of others, it . amounted to starvation. The Coroner .said he did not see any ttround of complaint against tht, mother of the deceased chill. Poverty was her mis fortune, and want of money- produced exhaustion of mind, and incapacity of maternal functions, as want of food produced exhaustion of the body, ending in a general prostration of the system and mental decrepi tude. It was a curious fact that the body of deceased, a full grown child, and a fortnight old, weighed only 31b. 10oz., whilst the body of a still-born child that lay beside it in the workhou,e weighed i klbs. Verdict—" Died from exhaustion produced by natural causes." NAVAL INTELLIGENCE' , PORTSMOUTIL—The Col;ingwood, 80. Car l ' is detained at Spithead, awaiting final orders Pot to the Pacific. Rear-Admiral Sir George Stt i o f expected next week. She received a fine draftjo from Plymouth, brought by the Mercury tender' 4 the week. fo r Sir David Milne's flag was still flying on bob - tin tly Vincent, 120, Captain Rowley. in Plymouth 8° .1 the 3d inst. ; and there was no present probsbihO po rte l ship returning to her anchorage at Spitheak,O r re oo , It is not intended to re- comm i ss i on th e at Sheerness. as reported. hog br The Royal steam-yacht Victoria and Albert , taken into the basin to be completed for sea 6 411 o f t ' is ordered to be rigg. d and stored by the cre,yi ii i Nautilus, 10, Lieutenant TrinAain, w hich ye 6 '' ,, called from the coast of Sussex fur the purvoefoor: tain Lord Adolphus Fitzclarence havin , made' tul~ cessary arrangements relative to the yacht, to London. Her carved work is being regilde(l., The new steam-s'lip F,rebrand. at this r"rpie' ef , length to he commissioned, and it is generally 40 ( 1 '4 that Captain James Hope will hav e th e cotnnW l. o f ' She is taking on board the necessary quantiti I and seagoing stores. Vice-Admiral Sir Chitees Adam, TLC n" b' n r , t Halifax on the 20th July, w ith hi s flag tlying.' io , the r ece i v i ng f r i gate P yramus ; the Itl it stri°o l 4 Captain Erskine, having been dispatched to O f ov oe d nah, but was shortly to return, when the AdV I OO proceed in her to Jamaica. Th e squadron„„ very healthy. The brigs Waterwitch, 10, and Pantaloon , 1 ,, ° :,.. 11 7 completed this week, when it is ex pected 0 0 1 experimental vessels gill he commissioned fur i j 6)* their respective qualiti , s. ret ti l The 11.11 , Iagascar, 44, C ,ptain Foote, retwnt.i, o nit-, from the West Coast of Africa, is paid off in O il and the Vindictive, 50, Captain T Niehol° s ' • up di .. 1 1 ) , put out of commi-sion in this harbour on Tu , „„oeu,o, The steam-ves,el Meteor. Lieut. Butler, ho this port, for Cork, to join Sir Hugh PigottS , 6 7,0Pe and the steamer Dwarf, Lieut. Chamberlain. Woolwich, to have her boilers inspected, 80 ' ire At Spit ead—Collingwood, 80. In Harbour—Victory, Queen, Excellent. • to ts Echo, Cornet, Fearl,ss, Victoria and Albert' tenders.—Brighton Gazelle. , Sgrk SINGULAR EVENT.—Last Item a u ,,, t r, by falling down an old coalpit- s h a ft a t Di s l e y. 1 0. named Anthony Crowther, who had been stan u e Zeti l t roV i mouth of the pit while the body was being recover,.ret , ,,led to his borne in a state of nervous excitement rest, complaining of a pain in his arm and siae' than two hours was a corpse.— Halifax Guardian' „ te BIRTHS. A On the Bth inst., at 16, Charles-street, Ber kejej pig / Ile Countess of Craven,. of a daughter. sr Of On the 24th ult., at Thun, Switzerland, Mrs... -e , Phillips of a son. i „glin l . cil On the 26th ult., the lady of T. Duffield, of a .„ ( u 3 ,, - I' 4o On the 3d inst., at Maitland-place. Cla t n 1 " -. tli P°, f t Toulmin, of a daughter. is ife e On the 4th inst., at Rhvl, near St. Asaph, the - Rev. H. J. Wharton, of a son. el fil On the 4th inst., Mrs. H. D u e s b ur y, o f a son- of On the 4th inst., in Montagu-square, the lady - ve l , Wilson, Esq., of a daughter. da le On the 4th inst., in St. M ar ti n ' s - p l ace , the Wife - e$ Of' Richard Cattermole, of a son. JO ”On the 6th inst., at Hammersmith, the wife of Joe English, Esq., of a daughter, still-b o rn. g s ses , On the sth inst., at the Vicarage, Ea -t Han' , - n Emma, the wife of Rev. W. Streatfeild, of as ° „ i i, MARRIED. pliiiifr 0 el On the Bth inst., at the Independent Cliseel' j j e r, liii B Essex, by the Rev. Thomas Binney, Thomas' tbter Charles Reed, Esq., of Bristol. to Ellen. third drab , re 4t " late Benjamin Hanson, Esq., of Hackney. ~,,tener- t Or" On the 6th inst , at St. Sepulchre's Church, '-'",", P' c i r e' s lic e ' Sarah Ann, eldest daughter of William E,irteselVi,sif' geon, Smithfield-bars, to Mr. W. B. Cleaver , (4 OW lane, Cheapside. 1 ~r On the 30th ult., at St. Paul's Episcopal C bill'e CI (1.1 1;e 1 burgh,' William James Turquand, Esq., 4 13 , 1l bsf g et* C° vice, to Arne, eldest daughter of the late Lieutell- latch James Michael, H.E.I. C.S. „ jos.e l ~' On the lst inst., at St. George's, Camberwei't g i ologro'l'' Jolley, Esq., of Stamford -street, Blackfriars, to ',. t he v beth:youngest daughter of Henry Gooch, Esq. , 0 ' bt , %W ee Camberwell hi ) ' On the sth inst., at Lambeth Church Mr. J ° k . to Louisa, daughter of the late Mr. R. Castendiec t eio i ` D IR b. I jea t •4' Of ' o f On the 11th ult, at Malta, Susan, the "cit e r Frederick Holland, R.N. ,h gel 0 13 rta u ., 0 . On the 25th ult., 'the Rev. James Asti° ‘-. eiiii et 1 Shirenewton, a Magistrate and Deputy-Lieut ter o fgr , county of Monmouth. On the 31st ult., Dora Margaret, youngest davo po ll' James Savage, of Essex-street, Strand. ~ of Stc'c tEI On the 2d inst.. Augustus Schmaeck, r-A‘o 4 t Vw common, and Jeffreyquare, aged 61. On the 29th ult., Emma Jane, lalobos, of King's College, Londie, aged 20.. Cecil 1141, On the 2d inst., at Clifton, Isabella Beatrt%'l.,,,inie only child of the late E. Parker, Est , of Bro 'be 61°W Yorkshire. Hea rt. tli f Loll" On the 4th inst.. at the Rectory, 31aisP.F" BenX ° b ed cestershire, Louis Hodgson Lee, of the Colon g` ) don, aged 21. Ater of On the 4th inst., Sophia, the third dalo - WI Wright, Esq., of East-place, Hackney. Anne. t o h n e l) s . t d h au i g n i s i t t . c , r at of t S he t. f lea , toe' wire of Professor 18.' _..i,e6 td* if il Suff ilk. NC a let On the sth inst., Salena, onl3 , TOP Esq., of Sunbury, neat Harrow-on -the-dill jaw On the sth inst., at the Master's House, i.,ii a.. Mary, the wife , )t' the Rey. NV. IL R.oelatt. ...., 0 34 IP " ..ce, 134 " i he r On the sth inst.. at Brunswick - place , _., bite ton. St, plien Lueas, Esq., aged 83. . ~a mb ier, R G e ,, e - i . e6 .1 6 0 - h - n tre l e :e ldeNroi),lqefft°P jrS .1 tonr;,tt;eria,lo. , On the sth inst.. in P.dl-mall, . Majesty's Consul-General in the United),l co, e s ; " ----1--- - ------ '11) 0 19 4;• 11 .1 Lotp.ic: : riiiited and Published by .kli- of f e e. 4 , N. 112, Strand: Printer, at Tke Su g ~,.t.he CA , Im' 1-anrl, in the P .reciect of ♦ the Ssvoy, :a. . dnighter of • 14041011024 giidayi 41;bcot 0, 00. ' IMPORTATION OF FRUlT.—Great quantities of fruit of all kinds, are being daily imported into this country from the Continent. The Sphinx steamer, from Havre, brought with her on her last trip no less than nearly 1,700 packages of fruit, of various kinds, which have been landed at the St Katherine's Steam Wharf, and cleared immediately. The very large importations of fruit into this country from the Continent this season, facilitated by the advantage+ ofsteam. is the cause of the great profusion and consequent cheapness of cherries, pears, and all descriptions of fruits in the markets. MORE INCENDIARISM.—On Tuesday information was received and circulated throughout the Metropolitan and City Police divisions, that on the night of the 29th ult., a barn, in the occupation of Mr. George Alpass, situate at Morton, in the parish of Thornbury, near Chip ping Sodbury, was wilfully set on fire and destroyed, with a large quantity of wheat straw which it contained. Mr. Charles Cullemore, the proprietor of the Morton estate, has offered a reward of 20/. to any person who will give such information as will lead to the discovery of the offender or offenders. L. , B~ A pu OuGH ItoNDAi CHOLS( bury t o turneorr, G i Ditny 1 At Bevel Far Qp nA 11 04 t e co C/e ntline 2(1 ' . " - Ger 1, atine 3 , 46! lor , Z a x. 4s ,_• 6cl. 41411 In's • Wa tar C his his Meta 10 b e two V'scenvf n ram wt Jus % t a s hould I tratis rt ] • tl at 4tal I in / hit