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r,birb Wtittion SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock. ---e-- LONDON JOINT STOCK BANK. (THIS DAY.) The General Half-yearly Meeting of the Shareholders in the London Joint-Stock Bank was this day held in the Board-room of the Bank in Princes-street, City. at twelve o'clock. Sir John M'Taggart, Bart., M.P., Chairman of the Board of Directors, in the Chair. The advertisement calling the meeting having been read, The CuatumAx called upon the Secretary to read the following REPORT. "In accordance with the assurance given by the Chair man of the last general meeting of Shareholders that, as the question of allowance of interest to customers on current accounts had received, so it would continue to receive the best consideration of the Board, the Di rectors have now to inform the Proprietors that, after mature deliberation they came to a resolution in Feb ruary last, That from and after the Ist of March, the interest allowed by the bank to customers on their mini mum balances be one per cent., except on accounts, the monthly minimum balance of which on the average of the half-year shall be under two hundred pounds ;' and it is a source of great gratification to them to be able to add that, with but few exceptions, the alteration was re ceived by the customers of the bank with that feeling of liberality which evinced their intimate acquaintance, with the extremely depressed state of the money mar ket, and their willingness to concede a fair remunera tion to their bankers. " By the accounts which accompany this report, it will be perceived that, after providing for current ex penses, bad debts, rebate of interest, &c., the net profit for the half-year ending the 30th June last, amounted to 16,040/. 7s. 2d. " Although this sum alone would not be sufficient for the purpose, the Directors have not hesitated to declare a dividend for the half-year at the rate of 61. per centum per annum, free from the deduction of income-tax, as the ' Guarantee Fund' (after taking from it sufficient to make up the deficiency) will still le ave to its credit the aura of 89,218185. I Id., being only 612/. ss. 53. less than on the 30th of December lat. " The Directors cannot close their report without ex pressing the deep regret they feel at t'se loss they have sustained by the recent decease of their much-esteemed friend and colleague, Joshua Scholefield, Esq., M.P. This lamented event will render it necessary to call the Proprietors together again shortly for the purpose of electing a successor. " The dividend will be payable on and after the 18th instant." The SECRETARY then read the statement of accounts for the current half-year. Mr. T. MooRE observed that the sum charged for current expenses was larger than it had been during the preceding half-year. The CHAIRMAN replied, that it had been as large a gum on previous occasions. On the 30th of June, 1842, itwas 11,709/. 10s. 103., a larger sum than during the present half-year ; but of course the amount would vary according to circumstances. He moved that the report be received, printed, and circulated among the Pro prietors. Mr. BORRODAILE wished to know if the serious losses which it had been stated the bank bad suffered in con sequence of their connection with Call, Thompson, and Co., were included iu the sum allowed for bad debts ? The CHAIRMAN said it was not thier back, but another, which had suffered those losses. The London Joint stock Bank had no connection with Cali, Thompson, and Co., and had never suffered any loss, as had been stated. In making the allowance for bad debts the Directors were carelul to err on the safe side, Mr. G. B. Ilanarsoel asked if the number of new, accounts opened since the reduction of the interest was equal to the average of new accounts opened during the same period of former years? The CHAIRMAN could only state generally that a large number of new accounts had been opened, and new accounts were being opened weekly. Mr. G. B. HARRISON—Can the Chairman assure the meeting that the number of new accounts has not de creased since last year ? The CHAIRMAN—There are a great many more new accounts new than there were at that time. Mr. G. B. HARRISON would not go deeply into the matter, but he thought there was a want of courtesy in the suddel manner in which the circular of the Di rectors hld been issued so soon after the last smeting at which the feeling exhibited was decidedly in opposition to the reduction of the interest.—(Hear, hear, and No, no.) Had he pressed his amendment on that occasion he felt certain that he should have carried it, and many persons had left the room under a decided feeling that the Proprietors were not advocates for an alteration. It was with some surprise, therefore, that he nad received the circular of the Directors within a month after that meeting. He had no wish to limit the power of the Directors ; he had no doubt that they had been actuated by an intention of doing what they considered the best for the interests of the Shareholders ; but he thought they would have done better not to have re duced the interest until an absolute necessity arose for so doing. Mr. Alderman HUGHES HUGHES defended the course which had been adopted by the Directors. He had never listened to any information with greater pleasure in his life than he had listened to the statements contained in the report on the subject of the reduction of the interest. It would have been a declaration of insolvency if in the present state of the money market they had held out the law of giving two per cent, for money when they could obtain any amount of capital they chose at one and-a-half per cent. If, as he understood, the number of accounts which had been withdrawn in consequence had been under ten, he should like to ask the question whether the number of accounts withdrawn, or the number of new accounts was the greatest ? Ile had at the last meeting drawn their attention to this subject, because he felt that the nearer they approached to the legitimate manner in which banking was carried on in the City the better. Amore wise and judicious course could not have been adopted. The Directors had acted well and wisely, and if ever a vote of thanks was due to them, it was due to them that day. Mr. GREGORY thought the question hinted at by the worthy Alderman was a most important one, and he would at once ask, if the number of the old accounts withdrawn since the alteration had been less than the new accounts opened ? The CHAIRMAN believed that the accounts withdrawn on that account did not exceed three or four, while the new accounts exceeded one hundred. He could assure the meeting that the accounts had greatly in creased since the alteration.—(Cries of " Hear.") As to the time at which the alteration had been made, the Directors, after what had taken 'Awe at the last meeting, had felt it their duty to give the subject their serious consideration, and, in consequence, they had made the alteration. Mr. BORRODAILE cc:nsidered the alteration as good for the Proprietors and bad for the depositor. It was not keeping good faith with the public, when money was dear, to offer them this interest to induce them to become customers Of the bank, and then when money became cheap to turn round upon them with this alteration. Major BucnANAN reminded the meeting that the Scotch banks, on the model of which they were formed, were frequently altering the rate of interest allowed according to the state of money market. The CHAIRMAN had recently received a notification from the British Linen Company, a 'Scotch bank, of their intention of reducing the rate of their interest. how wit; it possible by any legitimate banking in the present state of the money market to pay the expenses of .their c;stablishaunt, if they allowed their customers 2 per cent,? Mr, G. B. HAniusoN—lf money is high, do the Scotch bank.; give more than two per cent. interest ? The CHAIRMAN—Yes. Mr. G. B. IlmtrasoN--That was not the case here. If a depositor were to ask, when money was high, for more than his two per cent., he would be refused, and referred-to his contract, and if so, the bank ought to abide by it when money was cheap. The CHAIRMAN—If he were to transfer his money to the deposit account be would be enabled to get all tie interest he was entitled to. After a few words from Mr. John Hackblock and Mr. Alderman Hughes Hughes, the report. was ordered to Le . re rived. The CHAIR3IAN had sent for a statement of the num -ler of accounts before and since the alteration, which he would read .to the meeting. The number of accounts up to the Ist of January, 1844, was 2,589, and en the tat of July, 1844, it was 2,704. Mr. T. Mooag, in referfuce to a motion of which he had given notice, would ask if J. P. Darthez, jun., Esq., Director of the Bank, had returned to England ? The CIIAIRMAN—NO. Mr. 'l'. Moonn v ould ask when he had last attended as a Director ? Mr. Alderman II onEs III:ouEs rose to order. It was not a meeting for the election of Directors, and the question could not, he apprehended, be entertained. - Mr..T. MoortE had given regular notice of a motion which-.he would n3Wpropose:—" That if any Director be absent from England for any period exceeding six mouths, he shall be disqualified ; and the Directors shall give notice for filling up the vacancy, in conformity with the provisions of the deed of settlemen.." Air. T. S. Samintoox seconded the motion. Mr. Alderman HUGHES HUGHES hoped the motion would re ce i ve no su pp or t. _There were many gentle men sitting there as Directors, of whose services he should be very sorry to be deprited because they might happen to be detained in the country by sickness, per haps for more than six months. With regard to Mr. Darthez, no one had ben more useful to the Bank than he had ; and his absence in Spain might be productive a much good to the Bank, as he might induce many bpanish merchants to join them. The'Custnmati said that very severe indisposition had occasioned the absence of Mr. Darthez. Mr. T. MooßE—But not for two years. It was now three or four years since he had been present. The CHAIRMAN—NO, ttr? years. _ - - Mr. T. AtooßE always liked to offer the most stre nuous opposition to the commencement of abuse or mis= inanagemeiit, and it certainly was a great abuse that a Director should be absent from his post for three or four years, more particularly in a back, where the Di rectors were the only check upon each other, as they had no auditors. Now, what check could Mr. Darthez be, r. siding as he did at Cadiz, upon his brother Directors. No doubt Mr. Gladstone had this very case in his eye, xhen lie introduced a clawc in his Bill to prevent this occurring in any new companies. The n'entleman in question was a most resp ec t a bl e man ; b e did not deny it. He had been of great use to that Bank he admitted, bat still he thought there had been a little management on the part of the Directors to recure his re-election. A letter had been read on that occasion, stating that be was coning to England. No w , it did not appear that he had the slightest intention of coming to England at al!. The 20th clause of the deed of settlement directed that if a Director should be absent without leave from the Board for three months, he should be dis qualified. It might be asked why he did not oppose his re-electiOn? He did not know of it until it was too late. He could not help thinking there had been some manage ment to procure his.re-election: A PROPRIETOR---IS there anything in the deed of set tlement about the allience of Directors ? The CHAIRMAN—No Director can be absent without leave for more than three months, but the Board has power to give leave. . Mr. V. KNIGHT thought six months too short a time to fix. He agreed in the principle of Mr. Moore's motion, but he thought the term might be advantageously en larged to one, or even to two years; and knowing, as he did, the. value of Mr. Darthez, he was quite willing that that gentleman should rot be affected by the resolution. Mr. Alderman H. .lICCHES objected to the motion being put on a point of order. The motion went to make an alteration in the deed of settlement, and that could not be done at a meeting like the present, and without going through the necessary preliminary forms. AMBROSE MOORE, Esq., a Director, rose to repel the charge of mismanagement in this matter which had been brought against the Direction by 'Mr. T. Moore. The only object they had in view was to show their respect to a colleague who had been of the greatest service to the establishment. What would have been said if the. Directors had availed themselves of the power, after his absence for three months, to exclude him From the Direc tion? But Mr. Derthez had been reelected since his ab sence. Why had not the Hon. Proprietor on that occasion proposed another candidate; he had had on that occasion seventeen clear days to get up a little management on his own account,.and yet he had not thought proper to avail himself of it by proposing another candidate. Mr. H. NICHOLSON—In what way did Mr. Darthez offer himself fur re-election ? The CHAIRMAN—By letter. He is obliged to do so. Mr. BORRODAILE had •no doubt but that the pret=ent discussion would produce a good effect. The Directors had had an opportunity Of hearing all that had passed on the subject. No-doubt they would well consider it, and he should be inclined to leave the matter entirely in their hands. ' - The CHAIRMAN observed that as Mr. Moore had pointed out one clause in Mr. Gladstone's Bill, he thought he might p. lot out some others which were most absurd. o,e was that banks were to strike a balance every month. Why, if that were the case in the bank the whole of the time of the clerks would be taken up in striking balances. Another absurdity was, the requiring the names of two Directors on the back of every bill. The Bill would require to 13: , greatly altered in Committee. Mr. V. KNIGHT theught they could not entertain the motion without altering the deed of settlement. Mr. SQUANCE, the solicitor to the Company, on being called on, gave as his opinion that the motion could not be entertained in its present form at that meeting. Mr. T. SAMBROOK, who had seconded the motion merely to raise the discussion, would not object, if the mover saw fit, to his withdrawing it. Mr. Alderman HUGHES HUGHES hoped it would be withdrawn. Mr. T. MOORE did not object to withdraw his motion, and hal the discussion gone on he should not have ob jected to the substitution of twelve months for six. Not withstanding all that bad been said, he could not help thinking there had been a little management somewhere, although each individual Director might disclaim all knowledge of it. He was but an humble in dividual himselr, but for all that, if be were taunted, he might get up a little management out of doors. With, regard to Mr. Gladstone's Bill, it should be recollected that amone , its provisions were the following: —That all future banks should have auditors, and that one-fourth of the directors should .go cut absolutely every year, and remain out. These were most whole some provisions. He then withdrew his motion. G. H. FosTzk, Esq., a Director, felt called upon to answer the statement of the Hon. Proprietor about management. On the last occasion he had stated that he thought the thanks of his colleagues and himself were due to Mr. Darthez ; that ho had written to that gentleman, asking him if he intended to offer himself for re-election and enquiring whether he might be expected in England soon. He had then said he was happy to state that he had received an answer, in which Mr. Darthez offered himself for re-election - , and ex pressed his intention of soon returning to England. Ile had hoped to have seen him before this, and he trusted, from what he had heard from other quarters, for he had not heard from Mr. Darthez him self, that they would soon see him amongst them. The motion was then withdrawn. Mr. Alderman HUGHES HUGHES then moved that the especial tha , ,ks of the Proprietors are justly due, and are her( by respectfully presented to the Directors for their valuable and efficient services. Mr. T. MOORE seconded the resolution, which was carried unanimously. Tha CIIAIRNAN, in the name of the Direct ors an d himself, returned thanks. On the motion of Mr. RICIIARD Grim, the thanks of the Proprietors were given to Mr. Pollard, the Manager, and the gentlemen employed under him, in conducting the affairs of the bank. Mr. POLLARD returned thanks. The thanks of the meeting were then unanimously voted to the Chairman for his able conduct in the chair ; and the compliment having been acknowledged by the Chairman, the meeting adjourned. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. STANDARD.—Grievous was the descent of the House of Commons from the consideration of Mr. Cowper's proposition to the Committee upon the Gamblers' Protection Bill. This is a Bill upon which we have no opinion, and in which we take no in terest whatever. We certainly should not grieve to see the scourge fall heavily upon the aristocracy of the turf and the gaming table. The aristocracy, generally, would be the greatest gainers by the inflic tion; but then one does not much like to see a restive but not repentant gambler filling his pockets by writs and declarations merely as the substitute of horses, or dice, or cards, " made safe." It is a matter in which one ran afford to be quite impartial. We must protest, by the way, against calling horse-racing a many sport ; there is nothing manly in it—rowing, yachting, fox hunting, wrestling, &c., are manly sports, because in them men perform the whole, or at least the princi pal part ; but what manliness is there in lending at a noble horse running with the smallest attain able weight of humanity upon his back ? Who ever considers the extenuated specimen of mankind in the saddle, except to ashertain whether he has or has not sold his employer for a bribe? There is no manliness in all this, or if there is, it is a manlineSs in which the subscriber to " a Derby," who has handed over his sixpence, with the price of his pint of beer, in a Spitalfields' pothouse, has as much right to boast as the king of the course, and owner of half the horses in the field. GLOBE.—The new tariff determined on by the Bra zilian government has reached this country. Although not published by official authority, the source whenee it has been derived gives assurance of its accuracy. The increased scale of duties, thus imposed by the Brazilian government on the manufactured produce of this country, clearly shows the absurdity of main taining a system of restrictive duties *upon the produce of foreign States. As a nation, Britain is de pendent for her commercial prosperity on the demand for our manufactures by foreigners ; yet, with a folly which exposes our legislators to reprisals by other countries, and their acts to condemnation in our own, we find them labourinn to uphold a system of •restriction which provokee retaliatory tariffs by foreign States ! The Brazilian tariff at present in operation, levies a nominal uniform duty of 15 per cent. on articles of British manufacture imported into that country ; in practical operation, the real amount of duty thus im posed amounts to 21 per cent. ad valorem. The tariff now proposed will come into operation in November next, when the commercial treaty with England will. terminate ; under its operation the duties will vary in, amount ; but their combined effect will be to increase, to a considerable extent, the duties now payable upon the' principal articles of export into this country. We give in another column the rates of duty to be charged upon, different fabric:. A duty, ad valoienz, varying from 30 to 60 per cent. upon the bulk of the exports from this country, will, as regards many articles, be a practical exclusion of British Manufactures from the Brazils; and cannot fail to work an incalculable amout of mischief to our trade and commerce. For this we are indebted to the combination of class interests, which compels Sir R. Peel to a course of commercial impolicy that he has vir tually denounced in Parliament, and which, we believe, he would willingly abandon for a more generous and . healthful se-were, were he not fettered by his political in terests who The tenacity with which the who are " protected" at the expense of the community cling to each other, is easily accounted for. They derive strength from union, and supply a cogent argument for reiterated and constant resistance to the monopolies to which they belong. The separation of one member of the confederacy would leave one restriction less to be appealed to as a justification for others ; add something to the number and strength of those interested in freedom of trade; and take something from the mass of interest enlisted on the side of restriction. The corn-laws, for instance, are not merely to ba viewed as the cause of those evils which directly and immedialy flow from them. They are to be judged, not merely by the evils which they do, but by the good which they , prevent from being done. If the landlords had no longer a monopoly of their own, they would no longer uphold the monopolies of others. It is not the interest of landowners that Bra zilian sugars should be excluded from consumption in this country. Nor would they assist in effecting that ex clusion, but that, by thus assisting the classes which de rive an interest from that exclusion, they may purchase their aid in preventing the introduction of foreign corn to the British market. The same may be said of the British-colonial interests. They would gladly admit foreign corn to the British markets, because that ad mission would be beneficial to themselves. But were they to detach themselves from the confederated band of monopolists, they would lose the advantages which they derive from the union of protected interests. The landlords would no longer uphold the cOlonial monopoly : their support is obtained by the aid which the other protected interests afford to the existing restrictions on the importation of corn. TRIAL OF THE RIOTERS AT LEEDS.—This trial terminated on Tuesday last, having occupied four days of the borough sessions, and twice as long as the other thirty six cases put together. Of the military, four were found guilty and eight not guilty ; of thu civilians, four were found guilty and three not guilty. The sentences on the former were different periods of imprisonment ; of the latter, one was fined 4! ., the others were sentenced to short periods of imprisonment. DIPER/AL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. Their Lordships met at Five o'Clock. Lord SAN-pox appeared at the bar with a message from the. Commons, praying . their Lordships to allow the Earl of Fortescue to attend and give evidence , before the Postage Commitiee of the House of Commons.— Leave given. _ - • Mes — sengers from, the Commons brought up several Bills. DISSENTERS' CHAPELS BILL. The Earl of RADNOR presented a petition against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill; also petitions in favour of the Bill. The Noble Lord took that opportunity of complaining that copies of the evidence taken before the Committee on Gaming had nut been circulated generally. The copies had only been circulated amongst the mem bers of the Committee. Earl FITZHARI)INGE presented a petition from Gloucester against the Dissenters' Chspels Bill. _ _ Lord CAM - PBELL presented a petition in favour of the The Noble Lord took that opportunity of alluding to a rumour which had gained ground, that many Noble Lords had _changed - their opinion on the subject of this Bill. The Earl of WICKLOW said he had been originally opposed to the Bill, but as it had passed both Houses of Parliament, he did not feel justified in attempting to throw it out upon the amendments which bad been made by the Commons. A somewhat noisy conversation then ensued upon the subject, during which several Noble Peers attempted to speak at the same time. The petition was ultimately kid on the table. . . The Earl of MOUNTCASIIEL presented several petitions against the. Dissenters' Chapels Bill. Lord BEAUMONT presented a, petition from Man chester in favour of the Bill. Lord FOLEY presented two petitions against the Bill. The Noble Lord said he did not concur in the prayer of the petitions. Earl FORTESCUE presented similar petitions. SEES OF ST. ASAPH ANI) BANGOR BILL. Earl POWIS then rose, and said that it was his in tention to withdraw this Bill, in consequence of the report of the Committee which had been appointed on this subject being against him. He had also since the last discussion upon this Bill, been in communication with the Noble Duke near him (Wellington), as to whether it was likely that her Majesty's consent would be obtained for the pass ing of this Bill. The answer of the N o ble Duke was that s such consent would not be given ; And, under these cir cumstances, he (Earl Powis) felt constrained to adopt the course which he had just intimated to their Lordships. 'The Bishop of SALISBURY recommended her Ma jesty's Golrernment to reconsider this question. He very much regretted.that the Noble Earl had been compelled to withdraw this Bill, for he felt that it it had been passed it would - have been found to .be a very beneficial measure. He trusted, however, that the Government would in the next session of Parliament ihtroduce a Bill themselves upon this subject. _ [LEFT SITTING.' HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAREIL took the Chair at Four o'clock. Lord OLIVE presented twenty petitions from South wark, Hereford, and other places, against the union of the secs of St. Asaph and Bangor. POST-OFFICE. Lord SANDON moved that a message be sent to the Lords, requesting the attendance of Earl Fortescue on the Committee on Postage.—Agreed to. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from Mr. Mazzini, stating that he had been informe I that certain accusations were likely to be brought against him before a Secret Committee of that House then sitting upon the subject of opening letters. He felt it due to himself to state that he was prepared to repel any charge which .might be brought against him, and he hoped that if such charges should be brought against him, that he would be allowed to be examined before the Committee. Lord LINCOLN obtained leave to bring in a Bill to improve the drainage of the city of Westminster. Mr. UAYTER moved for returns of all moneys re ceived by or on account of the Society of King's Inns, Dublin, in each year, from the Ist day of January 1794, to the Ist day of January, 1844 ; distinguishing the amount respectively received from students, bar risters' apprentices, attorneys, and the portion of stamp duty received on attorneys' indentures ; also, distinguishing the amount received under or by virtue of statute law from that only received by order of the benchers of the Society of King's Inns. Of the expen diture, ordinary and extraordinary, on account of the Society of King's Inns for each year during the same period, distinguishing'—. Of the expenditure,on account of the Society of Kings's Inns, during the same period attendant upon the dinner system, including servants, 'porters, &c. ; and distinguishing the expenditure for wine and liquors from that of the culinary department: Of the expenditure, on account of the So ciety of King's Inns on foot of their library during the same period; distinguishing respectively the amount ex pended for buildings, books, officers' salary, &e. 6 ln detail, of all expenditure, during the same period for or on account of the Society of King's Inns in the promotion of legal education in Ireland, exclusive of any eipense in relation to the library, buildings, and culinary de partment of the said Society.' Of the number of years during which an allowance has been received by or on account of the Society of King's Inns in lieu of copy right, and the annual and gross amount of such receipts, with return of the manner and periods in which the same has been eipended. Of all moneys and other property of which the Society of King's Inn is now possessed, or to whichit is now entitled, distinguishing how the same is circumstanced, invested, or secured."—Ordered. JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES REGULATION _ BILL—INSURANCE COMPANIES. In answer to a question from Mr. DIAWETT — , - Mr. GLADSTONE said that the present Bill was in tended to apply to all future insurance offices. Exist ing insurance offices would neither be obliged nor per mitted to place themselves under the regulations of the Bill ; it was intended to require existing insurance-6m panics to furnish such particulars for registration as should suffice to verify the fact of their existence at the time of passing this Bill. ASSESSED TAXES COMPOSITION. On the motion of Sir G. CLERK, the Assessed Taxes Composition. Bill was read a third time. In - answer to a question from Captain PECHELL, Sir G. CLERK said the present measure was a mere continuance Bill COLONIAL POSTAGE. The Colonial Postage Bill was read a third time, and passed. DISSENTERS DISABILITIES. Mr. CHRISTIE said he had given notice of an amend ment to a Bill, not now before the House, for the purpose of enabling Dissenters to practise as advocates in the Courts of Doctors' Commons. The Bill had been dropped, aed the opportunity of putting the amendment was taken away. Besides the disabilities to Dissenters practising in the courts of Doctors'-commons, they also laboured under further disabilities as to admission to the Inns of Court, which had the privilege of calling to the bar, shorter residence being demanded of graduates of the Universities than of Dissenters. lie quoted the opinion of Sir 11. Peel at Tamworth, in 1834, on this subject, and asked whether the Government had taken any steps towards exercising their influence with the authorities of those Inns for the removal of the disabilities and disad vantages under which Dissenters laboured ? Sir R. PEEL said his attention had not been called to the question since the period the Hon. Member had alluded to. He believed that the difference as to resi dence before being called to the bar, was not applied as between Dissenters and the mem bers of the Church of England, but between those who had taken degrees and those who had not. His general opinions on this subject were in . conformity with those which I e had before expressed, but he thought it would be for tbe benefit of all parties that whatever was done should be done with the cordial consent of the presiding authorities instead of attempting to force compliance by legislation. Mr. FERRAN D wished to know from the Right Honourable Baronet (Sir James Graham) whether he had any objection to lay on the table of the House the evidence taken before the coroner at Bolton ' in relation to the loss of life from the bursting of a steam engine? SirJ GRAHAM said he was not aware that it was in the power of any authority to compel the coroner to produce the evidence taken in his court, but be would make inquiries on the subject, and if the Hon. Member would repeat the question, he would en deavour to reply to it. Mr. WODEHOUSE wished to call the attention of the. Right Honourab!e Baronet (Sir James Gra ham) to the case which had occurred at the last Spring Assizes in Norfolk. Two persons named Knowles, after being tried before Lord Abinger, and sentenced to 15 years' transportation, h a d re celre_ a complete pardon and returned home. He had no right whatever to ask on what ground the royal mercy had been extended to these parties ; but the Lord Lieutenant of Norfolk was placed in a situation of pecu li ar responsibility ; it was his bounden duty to maintain the public ,peace, and if the Government wished it he was sure the affair would be placed in their hands without a sigh. If the Lord-Lieutenant were indeed to retain his situation he wished to have an answer to his question frcm the Right Hon. Baronet. They asked no more than justice—they wished for nothing vindictive. Sir J. GRAHAM said he was placed in a somewhat embarrassing position, as the Hon. Gentleman' had sat down without asking him any question—(Hear, hear) — although he had made a kind of attack upon himself for the mode in which be had administered his office. With respect to the cases under consideration, he had given the advice which he had done because he felt satisfied that the ends of justice imperatively demanded it. He had received from the Noble Lord the Lord Lieu tenant of the ccunty of Norfolk the greatest assistance, and the Noble Lord and himself had discharged their respective duties in the most harmonious manner. THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, JULY 11, F 244. THE RAILWAYS BILL. On the order of the day for the adjourned debate upon the Railways Bill being read, Mr. BRIGHT said that he was one of the Members of that House who, previous to the discussion of the Bill; came to the conclusion that it was not a measure' advan tageous to the public, and that it would give the Goveri ment powers dangerous to the country. He had listened with the greatest attention to the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Gladstone) speaking for two hours, and in the whole of his speech he only disguised, in stead of explaining, the objects of the. Bill. The Bill consisted of forty-eight clauses. He would, fur the sake of making himself more clearly under stood, point the attention of the House to some of the clauses where this power was given. Clause 7 had already been alluded to, wherein the Lords of Commit tee are empowered to purchase any future rail way after the expiration of fifteen years, and after giving one month's notice. The Bth clause confirmed. this power. Now he could not understand what was the mean rig of the words in these clauses, unless they went to sanction the purchase of railways. Fur ther on these powers were again confirmed as in clauses - nine, twelve, fourteen, and many others. He wished to know how Acts of Parliament were to be interpreted—whether they were to he 'Construed by their own words; or by the explanation a Minister might choose to give of its intention ? The Right Honour alA 'Gentleman (Mr. Gladstone) had argued, ' the other evening, that the Executive could not of it-' self buy up railways, but that Parliament must be. appealed to on the . subject, as Parliament would have to find the money, .They all knew Parlia ment would have to find the money, and they also knew that if this Act were passed there would be very great difficulty, at a futnre day, in dissuading Parliament from finding the money to put into force the provisions of an Act . deliberately sanctioned by the Legislature. Besides, let them look at the effect of this one month's notice. Was it to be supposed that this one month's notice would furnish sufficient time for the Parliament to inquire into the desirableness, and confirm the policy or the purchase of a railway ? Did it not rather read thus :—that the' Executive was to decide the question of purchese - or no purchase ; that having determined on the formerethey gave the month's notice, and then came to Parliament tor•the money, ex pecting that it would be voted as a Matter of course. He would maintain that this Bill, sanctioning the prin ciple of purchasing railways, was erroneous. Whatever the intention of the Government was, no man could read it without coining to that eonclusion; and that was the conclusion the Railway Directors and the public had come to. He did not believe that the principle of purchasing these great works was' one • that was deemed, by the public to be advantageOus: Private enterprise , had done more :for this country than the Government or the Executive had ever done. .He thought these measures should be left to indiViduels.. If the great change proposed by the Bill was to be made, he • wished to know upon what principle it was to be made, and Why? No ease had been made out hitherto for the adoption ef th e course propose d. The Bight Hon. Gentleman had spoken of high profits and per tentage, but there was no proof of large incomes having been made. Those' incomes had probabf:,- not averaged more than . 5 percent. , F rom a s t atemen t now `before the public, - fotie only out of seventy railways made •10 per cent., and all of them varied from 6 to 3 per cent. There was nothing to show that railway preprietore were grossly exacting from the public; or that the public were suffering from high charges. Th. Right lion. Gentleman had spoken of third-class trains. Now, no man • more than himself wished that the working classes should have every accommodation on rail ways, and his opinion was, that to no class had the railway companies given more facilities of travelling than the , workieg• c:asses. 'rhe Eight Hon. Gentleman in his speech had no leis than four' times adverted to the monopoly by railways 'he thought that that staternenteame with a bad grace /nem one who hactsanctioned monopolies of every description. Railway .Companies had conferred a great benefit on the corn:nu nity ; it gave them a cheaper and more see mode of tra velling. There *ere no . establishthents in this - country car- Tied on With such admirable management and arrange ment as. the railroads. There was nothing in the Govern ment establishmentswhich could compare with them in the nicety and admirable propriety of their management. GOvernment ships were not so welt arranged. No 'person who went in Government packets could ; say but that the conduct which he met with on board .those • packets not inferior to what was to be ;met with in packets under the management of public ,companies. The management of the Post-office was not 'such as would justify them in placing in the handy of . the Government the conveyance of passengers.—(Hear.) What a long time had passed by before a reduction in the . rate of postage was obtained. At that very moment the mails from - London to Manchester were sent by a round-about, circuitous way, instead of going by a way which would convey them an hour earlier ; and all the representations made by the Corporation and Chamber of Commerce of Manchester were neglected. But there • were other considerations connected with this ques tion besides that of the economical one.—(llear, hear.) There was a consideration of much political consequence. The London and Birmingham Railway alone employed froth 1,500 to 2,000 persons; with salaries varying from 701. to 1,0001., and they spent more than 200,0001. for wages, stores, toils, and a variety of other expendi ture. The Great Western Railway must pay more than this, and if 'all this influence fell into the hands . of the Executive Government, would it not affect the freedom of the constituencies of those places through which the railroads passed ? (llear, hear.) The constituencies of those places would be under the thumb of Government, and they would possess the influenee of the same description which the Government of the day always had in Devonport, Rochester, and Pembroke. What happened at Kendal, were a guard was taken from his duty thathe might vote for the Government candidate, whose opinions he did not approve of, would happen at those places. For the last two years he had travelled as much by railways as any man, and for civility, propriety of con ' duct, and fairness in every respect, he could say that no institutions could stand a comparison with the railway establishments of England. But even if there were some evils, the remedy proposed by the Right Hon:President of the Board of Trade was an inefficient one. It was well known that Government establishments were worse managed than any others. The constitutional principle of the Bill was also a dangerous one, and he should op pose it. With respect to a revision of fares - , he admitted that much might be said ; but with re gard to third-class fares much had been done to better the accommodation tof the working classes who were conveyed by the third-class carriages. For some' years past there had been a very great im provement, and the directors of railways had come to the opinion that the interests of railway proprietors were identical with those of the public. Under all the cir cumstances of the case,. and considering that the railway companies expressed their willingness t o mee t th e Go vernment fairly and . openly, h e th oug h t t h e Government would do .well to consent to post pone the 'measure until next session. In conclusion, he must say he did not think it w as r i g h t to cast s l urs on railway proprietors with respect to the opposition to this Bill.—(Hear, hear.) He believed that the opposi tion was general.; and it was increased by the circum stance that then- Government seemed so 'exceedingly anxious 'to' pass the Bill at that late period of the session. He should certainly vote for the amendment that the Bill be read that day six months. Lord SEYMOUR said all the railway committees had come to the conclusion that the interests of the rail way companies were not sutliciently identical with those of the public. He thought it was very expedient that there should boa revision of the railway fares, and that would necessarily involve an investigation into their profits. With respect to the provisions of the Bill for carrying the poorer classes at a cheaper rate, he thought no one in that House would•do otherwise than approve of it. That provision itself showed the proper and reasonable spirit which prompted the Bill, and the only consideration for the House would be in what way that object could be best secured. With respect to the enactments regarding the conveyance of the mail, he considered it a power that ought to belong to the Government not only as re garded future but all existing railways. Then as to the patronage which it was said would be vested by this Bill in the Board of Trade, he must say •he saw very little in that objection. Whatever there might be in it, however, he was willing, as a member of the Committee; to take his share of the responsibility along with the Government. He could not, on the whole, see the slightest objection to the principle of the Bill ; and as to the machinery, whenever it might be desirable to alter and amend that, it could be best done in committee. Mr. BERNAL said the present measure appeared to him to be so peculiarly important in its probable conse quences that he could not refrain from offering a few observations upon it. He would pass by ' the attempt at insinuation that had been made that all parties opposed to this Bill were supposed to have an interest in railway property. For his own part he never .held a share in a railway, or canal,. or an assurance company in his life, but he did not presume to say that those who did so were not bound to give the resulte of their experience to those less informed upon such subjects. 'The present was a measure!that depended upon its de taile. He willingly assented to having third-class car ; riages . for the purpose of giving facility to the tea, yelling of the poorer classes ; but before railways were established, how did the poorer classes travel— why. by waggons. For his own part, he knew no class of persons who were more likely to be benefited by railways than the poor. As to the option to•be given to the Government or the Board of Trade, which was the same to purchase any.railWay, he believed it was the first time such a proposition had ever been put forward. When first the qu es ti on o f ra il wa y s w as brought for• ward in that House there was' some degree of negligence on the part of t h e G overnme n t ; but they now pro , posed to crush the hopes of rising railway companies. The contingent patronage incident to such a control as it was proposed to give to the. .Government would be attended with great inconvenience, if not danger. It would be necessary at length to make it the law that no . person having an int eres t i n a ra ilway, or an employment in one should vote in the election of a Member ofParliament. There was a complication of clauses which would destroy the effect of the Bill. H e b e li e ved that the tide of cons. munication would be checked by the Bill, and lie there fore advised the Right Hon. Gentleman to be cautious. The Bill was compulsory in its object; in its intent, and in its language, and he called on the House to reject it. Mr. COLQUITOUN defended the vote he gave on a former occasion with regard to the Bill. He objected to the tone of the Right Hon. Gentleman the President of the Board of Trade. When he saw the Member for South Lancashire. and the Member for Reading, and when he 'saw Mr. Saunders and Mr. Hudson whom the Right Honourable Gentleman praised so much, meeting in London within two days after the Bill came out, And expressing their strong opinions against it, could he suppose that such men —men of such, intelligence were played on as the tools of lawyers and agents out of doors.—(Laughter.) The Right Hon. Gentleman said he wouldnot allow this Bill to be postponed, He would not consent to a postponement of the Bill, stating that it was founded on the third report of the Committee, which was a short one, and published many months ago. He did read that report, and his ob jections to it were as strong then as before the measure was introduced ; and to show that all was not approval on th e part o f the railway companies with respect to this measure, he quotsd an extract _from the Railway Chronicle warning them of the consequences of this Bill. (LEFT SPEAKING.) THE• LONDON AND BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY.--By an arrangement with the Post-office, the down day-mail train between Lcndon and Birmingham will accomplish the journey in four hours, and the up in four and a half. • IMPE itiAL PARLIAMENT. I HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 10. FIELD GARDENS BILL. • Mr. COWPER moved the second reading of this Bill. This Bill would confer great benefit on the poor man, and he therefore confidently recommendedit to the House. He proposed that in all future Inclosure Acts a portion of the ltlnd shOuld be reserved fur the purposes of this Act. The land, however, was not to be given to the cultivators absolutely, but only the occupation of it, and that upon lease. He trusted that the Right Hon. Gen tleman at the head of the Home Department (Sir James Graham), would not feel it .. his duty to op po.se himself to the • Bill, for, if it was not permitted to proceed, there could be no legislation upon the subject during the present session. The Right Hon. Gentleman had sufficient to do in his own department, or he might invite him to take chargeof the present Bill. But it was the -last " straw " that broke the camel's buck, 'and that Right Hon. Gentleman's am cations were already sufficiently 'onerous; and indeed he doubted'if it would be in his power to carry through Psi•liament the manyßills alreadynnder his eare. Ile ( Mr. CoWper) should therefore strongly urge this Bill upon the consideration of the House, more especially as it was one so mush calculated to benefit the moral and physical condition of the people. • Mr. SHARMAN CRA WFORD 'seconded the motion and gave his most hearty approval to the Bill. Wher ever the allotment system had been tried,-the production of the land had been increased and the condition of the labourers had been improved. It was quite plain to any one who looked at the state of England that it was not half cultivated, and if spade husbandry were introduced it would afford increased employment, and give increased produce. None of the common lands of England should be inclosed except such as were indispensably necessary. He- conceived that it was not desirable to give less to the workingman thanan acre, but yet would accept of less, so that it might supp..rt him when he had nova sufficiency of em ployment ; but when ho had not, he did not •think less than an acre would be enough to keep him in compara tive comfort. . Mr. FERRAND expressed his sincere gratitude to the Hon.,Member for bringing forward this Bill, and hoped the Government would allow it to become the law of the land. The allotment system answered remarkably well in his (Mr. Ferrand's) district. The Right lion. Baronet, the First Lord of the Treasury, hitherto recommended the allotment system in the agricultural districts, and there was no reason 'to think it would nut answer equally well in the manufacturing districts. • Mr. ESCOTT supported the motion. The allotment. system, which worked such benefits, was purely volun luntary,- and he did not approve of the principle ex pressed by the Hon. Gentleman, of fixing the rent for: land. He would wish to see whether a great deal of benefit might not be clone without any legislative inter ference between landlord and tenant. Mr. HUME said he thought the allotment system, thonghestablislied by law, could be only carried out by the zeal-of the local proprietors. He doubted the propriety of the Bill. The situation of the humbler classes in this country was distressing in the extreme, and worse than that of any of the kingdoms on the Continent ; but he thought some more searching and efficient remedy absolutely necessary. Sir JAMES GRAHAM would not oppose the second reading of the Bill. He thought the allotment system generally. good, but believed its success entirely de pended on the zeal of local proprietors. .He felt sur prised that the Hon. Member for Rochdale recommended in very strong .terms spade s husbandry and small farms, but he (Sir James Graham) thought they were, in many cases, the causes of distress. The 'real benefit of the allotment system was to give the poor labourer enough to engage that time which would be otherwise unemployed. He was afraid tliat the machi nery of the Bill would require great alteration in many of its most essential details, but would nut, however, at present, enter into any very critical examination. He thought it one of the first duties of proprietors of land to let small quantitieg of land to the industrious and •well-disposed among ibe labouring classes. Mr. CHILDERS, us a member of the Committee, would express his concurrence in the provisions, of the Bill.. Lord WORSLEY advocated the system of allotments,. inasmuch as at would afford assistance, though not the entire means of livelihood to the poor man. It was advan tageous to the poor man to be able to grow his own vegetables, but he would not at all recommend the system of apportioning waste lands out to the poor as • gardens, fur they would not be-to them worth the ex- . • pense of cultivation. lie would give the poor man a garden besides his cottage—not a larger piece of land at a distance from it. Having expressed this opinion he would support the second reading. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Wednesday next. COURT OF ARCHES BILL. . The second reading ot• the Court of Arches Bill was moved. Mr. H. ELPIIINSTONE opposed it as a very bad thing—worse than any Bill he had ever known introduced. • Mr. R. YORKE protested against the framing of the Bill, and if it were persevered in, it would be his duty to oppose it. The ecclesiastical law could be reformed only by abolishing it.—(A laugh.) After a few words from Mr. Escorr and Mr. HUeIE, Sir J. GRAHAM said, that as this was an adjourned debate, and he had already spoken upon it., he would not now occupy. the IlOuse by replying to the arguments on the other side.—(Cheers and laughter.) The House then divided, when the numbers were— For the motion Against it Majority — 13 GAMBLING ON RACE-COURSES. Mr. CHRISTIE moved that Charles Henry Russell should be heard at the bar by counsel against the Ac tions for Gaming Discontinuance Bill. ' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER asked whether the petitioner Russell was or was not a party to the actions now pending? Mr. CHRISTIE said that he believed the petitioner was a party to the actions. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the motion, on the ground that the Hon. Gentleman who proposed it was able to state whether the petitioner was or was not interested in the result. Mr. CHRISTIE said that the petitioner was interested. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE supported the motion. Lord PALMERSTON said that, in the case of Wright, there could be no doubt about the land; it was quite different in the present case. The plaintiff in this case was only put forward as the screen df other persons. Mr. M. GIBSON moved that the solicitOr for the pe titioner, who was in attendance, should be called in and examined at the bar as to the intent of Mr. Russell in the action. The SPEAKER said that the motion could not be put. After a short discussion the House divided. The . numbers were— Aes l4 No y es 3O Majority against Mr. Christie's motion 16 Mr. CHRISTIE then moved that the House should resolve itself into a Committe upon the Bill that day three months. He would offer every opposition to tie Bill in his power. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER denied that the course which he had taken was unfair. He thought that the Hon. Member ought to have satisfied himself that the allegations of the petition were true before he presented them to the House. Lord PALMERSTON thought that there was no occasion for warmth of temper upon either side in this case. As for himself, he had not pledged himself to vote for the Bill or against it. He certainly thought that it would be a bad precedent to call the petitioner to the bar. Mr. M. GIBSON thought that the Government had taken a timid and hesitating part in respect to this Bill. They had supported the Bill indirectly, but had waited to see how the wind would blow. He should be glad to see all penalties for betting . or private gambling done uway with, but he wished the whole general subject to be brought before the House and discussed, and not one portion of that which chiefly affected the Parliamentary friends of the Government in that House. Lord STANLEY utterly denied that the Government had anything to do with this measure, or took any in terest in it whatever. What their individual opinions might be he knew not, but as a Government they had nothing whatever to do with the matter either on way or the other. The plaintiff then before the House was only the nominal plaintiff; put forward to screen the real one, who was a man of straw. The Hen. Member for Weymouth ought to have satisfied himself he knew all the facts and merits of the case More he had come be- fore the House to advocate such a cause. Admitting, however, that the man Russell was the real plaintiff, the precedents for hearing him by couns4 having been looked into that day, they were found to be against him, and on that ground alone did he (Lord S.), not as a Member of the Government, but as a private individual, oppose the application now made. Mr. VERNON SMITH said it appeared to him that the Government had taken a most indecisive part on this question, and such conduct he could not approve. The question was whether qui tam actions were useful or not —whether the law should remain as it is, or be altered— and therefore it was not very creditable in the Govern ment to declare, through the Noble Lord (Stanley), that they cared nothing about the matter. H owever , h e qu it e agreed with the llon. Member for Manchester, that if these actions had been brought against poor instead of against rich parties, the House would never have been troubled upon the subject. Still he was willing to allow the second reading of the Bill, in the hope that next session the Government would shake off their indecision, and bring the whole subject before the House, with a view to an amendment of the law, and an adaptation of it to the present wants and usages of the country. Sir J. GRAHAM said he had been applied to by the Noble Lord, the Chairman of the Gaming Committee, to know what the Government intended to do in reference to the subject on which that Committee had just published its report. He had an swered that the report was Of a most able and useful character, but at that late period of the ses sion it was impossible for the Government to apply its attention to the subject. It would, however, he added, be its duty to give its best attention hereafter to the re port and the evidence of the Committee, with a view to legislate upon the subject during the next session of Parliament. On that the Noble Lord asked him to bring in a Bill to extend the Act lately passed until the next session ; but he (Sir J. Graham) suggested that, as Chairman of the Committee, he (Lord Palmerston) was the most proper person to introduce it. He had intro duced it ; and he (Sir J. Graham) in his private capa city, and not as a member of the Government, felt it his duty to support the Noble Lord. And in the coming• session he had no hesitation in saying it would be the duty of the Government to consider the whola subject, with a view to the Parliament legislating upon at. Captain BERKELEY said he would rather a sou of his trent to the common hazard table than take up the art of book-making, and all the—he had almost said dirtypractices connected with . it. For his part, he would never give a_ vote in, that House to screen a gam :bier, just because he .happened to be a rich man, or to move in what was called the higher circles of society. Sir GEORGE CLERIC said the hearing of counsel was opposed on the ground that the petitioner was not the real plaintiff in the case, and had therefore no claim on the sympathy of the House, as he could not prove that any injury was likely to accrue to him from any legialation that WAS about to take plaCe. Colonel PEEL said, in reference to what had fallen from a Learned Judge on a late occasion, as to gentlemen associating with a certain class of persons, he would take,that opportunity of stating that he had never asso ciated with those parties. Till the day of that trial, when he met the plaintiff and others in court, he had never set eyes upon them to know them by name. And as to their horses, he could no more hinder a - person run uints his horse at a r ac e , th an h e cou ld hi n d er t h e Learned Judge from walking over the course.---(Hear, hear.) . But the fact was, the vexation of these people so alluded to (with his Noble Friend beneath him espe , cia:ly) was, that they would not associate with them all. — (Cheers ) The cwas the real sore, and it was right it should be known.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. 3L GIBSON said it had been charged upon Inm tint as a member of the .Gaming Committee he had put queStions to the witnesses with a view of exposing part,es to the penalties of the law. 'This he strongly de nied. He had put questions solely with a view of getting at the truth, and to do this, he would at any time give every hour and every moment of his time.—(oh, oh.) Yes, he would, though, to do his duty as a Member of that House. - -(Hear,' hear.) He denied that he had been guilty of any unfairness whatever, and he thought Hon Gentlemen who were members of that Committee, would beer him out in stating that he had not in any way, exceeded his duty.- e (Hear.) Lord GEORGE BENTINCIC said he did not con • eider' the conduct of the Hon. Member for Manchester, CM the Committee, to have been altogether dictated by a spirit of fairness ; but, before alluding further to this topic . now, he must allude to another subject, about 'which there seemed to be some doubt. A person had been sued for 12,0001. for bets which he had made, amounting to 23,000/., on a horse named Gaper, his (Lord George .Bsntinck's) property, and it was. therefore; supposed_ that he (Lord George Beatinck) had some 'interest in the result of that action, whereas, in truth, he was in no wise interested.—(flear.) He must now say that he did think the questions put by the Hon. Member for Man- Chester on the Committee, had a tendency to support the claim of the individual who pressed this most iniquitous qui tam action—the Hun. Member asked one witness -distinctly if he_ did not know something about 3,000/. lost on a bet in the late Derby race.--(Hear, hear.) He would further say that, had not the reverse been so positively stated by an Hon. Member in that House, he (Lord George Bentinck) would have firmly believed that the object of ,these queries was to direct tho prosecution. However, the public would judge whether the inquiries of th© Hon, Gentleman were not intended to prejudice the defendants. He would not notice the 'observations of the Hon. Member for Weymouth with respect to what passed in the Court of Exchequer, but he would say that he 'was willing that his conduct should stand the test of a public scrutiny, which he knew he would come out of blameless. It had been urged that this was a piece of class legislatio. In answer to that, he begged leave to state, that if these qui tam actions did not affect persons of high rack and station, there never would have been a single objection to the present pro ceedings.—(Hear, hear.) If they looked back but for a comparatively short period to the history Of Parlia mentary proceedings, they would find there were no less than twenty-three precedents, all relating to persons of humble condition, in which these qui tam actions had been suspended or discontinued by legis lative interfereu He had assisted himself on behalf of the prinfers e and pubiishcrs of newspapers, stage players, and coal-whippers. Hon. Members opposite did not object to the suspension or discontinuance of these actions, although they now raised their voices so high in the present instance, when actions had been brought by persons of the very worst description.— (Hear.) He charged the Hon. Member for Manchester with associating with a per Son who had robbed his• own uncle's " —(Laughter)—which he thought suf ficiently discreditable. Mr. AL - GIBSON-e-I deny it. Lord G. BENTINCK—Yes, you deny it; but evidence will be shortly taken, which will show that this person constantly frequented the house of the Hon. Member, in Wilton-crescent. Mr. M. GIBSON—It is not the case. Lord G. .BENTINCK—WeII, we shall see. The Noble Lord, in a warm manner, and in severe language, descanted upon the characters of persons not Members of the House, and concluded by saying that an attempt had been made to induce him to come to a compromise, which he had indignantly rejected. Mr. HUME denied in the strongest manner that his Hon. Friend (Mr. M. Gibson) had done anything that was not warranted by the strictest propriety. He did not think the attack of the Noble Lord on his Hole Friend was just or becoming ; and with respect to the informer, about whom S 9 much had been said, he (Mr. Hume) would have no hesitation in declaring that, for anything he knew to the contrary, he would as soon believe him as the Noble Lord.—(Laughter.) Before the Noble Lord made such eharg. - s on his lion. Friend he should have looked nearer horne.l.lis Hon Friend had stated his opinions temperately and firmly, and just as he (Mr. Hume) would have done had he been placed in the same position ; and it was rather too bad that for so doing he should be so foully attacked. The Hon. Member had done his best to elicit the triith=no easy matter—and it did appear to him incomprehensible how Hon. Members could cheer the Noble Lord in his attack upon the Hon. Member-for Manchester, who had only done his duty.— (Cries of " Hear.") He understood the meaning of that cry and of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's cheer, who understood nothing whatever about the subject.— , (Laughter.) He must say that he had never heard so much disclosed in that House about what passed in a Committee up stairs, ncr did he think it proper or de corous for Hon. Members to accuse one another of their conduct in a Committee up stairs.—(Hear, hear.) The scene which had just taken place, as well as some others of a similar character that occurred not long since, were not calculated to elevate the character of that House in the opinion of the people---(Hear, hear)—and ought to be avoided as much as possible. He believed the pre sent Bill entirely resulted from class legislation, and should therefore oppose it to the utmost of his ability. Mr. ESCOTT defended the conduct of the Hon. Member for Manchester (Mr. M. Gibson), which he thought had been marked by extreme fairness on that Committee of which he (Hr. Escott) was a Member.— (Hear, hear.) The Hon Member was fair and impartial throughout the whole inquiry, and his queries very much assisted the Committee in arriving at the truth, and coming to just conclusions.—(llear.) Mr. HAYTER, as a member of the Committee, like wise defended the conduct of the Hon. Member for Manchester. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said it was perfect nonsense to say the Bill was not the result of class legislation. He thought the individual who felt himself aggrieved ought to be heard by :counsel at the bar of the House, as he believed that injury had been unjustly inflicted .on him. He would, however, as they had gone so far, vote for going into Committee on the Bill. Sir D. J. NORREYS rose, apparently labouring under considerable excitement, and said that some very strong and unwarrantable expressions had been cast upon him by the Noble Lord.—(Cries of " Order," " Chair.") The SPEAKER said the Noble Lord had retracted' the offensive expression?. Sir. D. J. NORREYS—Sir, I consider I have been most unjustfiably assailed.—(Order.) However, if— The SPEAKER—I understood the Noble Lord to have retracted those offensive words.--(Hear, hear.) After the Noble Lord made that complete retractation the House will consider the wrrds not to have been spoken. Sir DENHAM NORREYS—Then, Sir, I shall not advert further to the expressions of the Noble Lord than to say —(Ordc r.) The SPEAKER a;4ain interposed, upon which Sir D. NORREYS, :after in some measure expressing his satisfaction at the retractation, said, if the Noble Lord promised not to take advantage of the provisions of the Bill he would not further oppose it. Captain PECHELL deprecated the language which had been used by the Noble Lord. He would oppose the The House then divided, when there appeared— For going into Committee 45 Against it Majority -36 On entering the gallery we found Mr. CHRISTIE expressing his regret for having ex pressed himself in so hasty a manner. He was in nowise inclined to be factions, and would not persist in his in tention to obstruct the progress of the Bill. He believed that the penalties wera extremely 'high, and he would support a Bill for the suppression of thoe actions upon thepayment of costs ? If the costs were given to the in former he would withdraw his opposition to the Bill. Mr. M. GIBSON said that there had been an indirect attack made upon him by a Noble Lord which was per fectly unjustifiable. - 14ir. HUME wished to have words inserted in the first clause, by which costs should be given to the in former. Lord PALMERSTON had no objection to the Bill being made a discontinuing Bill instead of a suspending one. Captain PECHELL also thought tbat it would be better to make the Bill one of disco n t inuance . The amendment was withdrawn, and the clause agreed tn. The other clauses were also agreed to. The House re sumed, and the report was or lered to be received to • morrow. BOROUGH 01? SUDBURY. Upon the motion that the House go into Committee on the SudburY Disfranchisement Bill, Mr. BLACKSTONE said that much as he depre cated the sytem of bribery which had been followed at Sudbury, he did not think a case was made for the dis franchisement ' of the borough. He concluded by moving, " That it be an instruction to the Committee - to extend the right of voting for the future election of Members to serve in. Parliament for the borough of Sudbury, to all persons residing within the hundred of Baberg, within the county of Suffolk, and the hamlet of Ballingdon cum. Brundun, in the county of Essex, having the qualification required as electors for cities and boroughs, miler the Act of 2 Will. IV., c. 45 : and that the following persons, viz. Peter Alston, James Berry, Thomas Brown, William Barnard, William Cross, Joseph Cook, George Dawson, Thomas Erith, James Johnson, Charles King, Thomas Making, George Parsonson, William Rolfe, Richard Steed, William Tolliday, and Joseph Wheeler, being guilty of receiving bribes at the last election ; and Joseph Barker, Samuel Berry; Wil liam Cook, Thomas Ginn, Thomas Goody, Golding Herbert, Samuel Hale, James Herbert,John.Jones, a of William \Varner, being concerned in the distribution money among the voters before or during the election, IN hereafter disqualified from voting at any 'election Pr i . Members to serve in Parliathent ,for the borough Sudbury." Captain BERESFORD seconded °the motion, -an,,( l denied that Cu majority of the constituents of Harvvi t, e' were corrup'. Mr. B. COCHRANE denied that cases of briber( were brOught .against Sudbury sufficient to justify ttio disfranchisement of the whole constituency. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL supported the 0 11 ' and contended that there was an amp:e pp body of e viden h e6 to justify the disfranchisement of the borough. T r !. majority of the constituency were tainted with c° rup ti :Jr). - The House then divided, when there appeared -- - For going into Committee 37 For Mr. Blackstone's - amendment 1 Majority • The Bill then went through Committ ee , and ivy dered to be reported to-morrow. The LORD ADVOCATE was about to ask leave to bring in a Bill. to diminish the expense of completiog feudal investitures in Scotland, when Mr. HUME moved that the House be counted, a n , ti „ there being only twenty-on e !dembers present, t"" House adjourned. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. _ Y EST ERDA.Y.) 11713 NSIO N- U:S.R. A solicitor made an application to Alderman Th° l l W 0 ood upon the part of certain creditors, who had h most extensively plundered by a fraudulent dehtnr):, be enabled to carry into effect the Acts made in , . ch Coevention between this country and F ran ce,d3y il nd persons in either country may he apprehended eds brought to justice in the country in which the 1 1. ' 11 have been committed.' The case was one in which a ums between 14, 0001 se ! 15,0004 was stated to have been pocketed by the debtor, and— Lica' Alderman rf , OSIAS WOOD, upon hearing the Pel f til e Jars, decided upon granting the authentication ° t he City seal, which, alttough it might not be within iv requisites of the statute, might afford facilities 7 the proceedings in a foreign coutl for the recover)? ° of money. He stated that he cons;Jered it to be the ice of the magistrate to do everything ,in his power to g yio efficacy to the excellent object of the n, - 'w law, whic h r o. calculated to interfere most vigorously with th e P tices of 'fraudulent debtors. . The City seal was accordingly affixed. , arE ed A young man named Charles Holloway was r e „7o. by Joseph Hodges (policeman No. 31), with havit; strueted him in the execution of his duty. Policeman No. 651 stated that on Tuesday 1 4.00 Spaniard, who. happened to be a most dangerous 1012-0,0 was given into his custody, for having cut open W o o of a person 'in Billingsgate. The unfortunate I°l3 c tr was handcuffed upon manifesting a disposition W ile !' more misdhief, but he dashed the handcuffs wit ll : t violence against a post as to render them c0n 3 1 ), .;:e0 useless, and it was with extreme difficulty six or l o ar men so far overcame his strength as to succeed in Ato ing him in the station-house, where he c onting7 r ir rare all night. Policeman No. 31 assisted in the ° btO ing in bringing the madman to the Mansion 11 . 0 13 1,' f orl a crowd of idle fellows began to cry out " shame , $ 5 O the mob took up the word, greatly to the impedini ell annoyance of the constables. Amongst the WO' spicuuus was the defendant. tb e The defend " bo ie iefendant said he did not think it coui , police any harm to cry out " shame," but he 0 511 learned since that he had done wrong, and be sP" take care not to interfere in such a manner again' w it) Alderman T. WOOD—We punish the police r if, great severity when we find that they act in3PrO c e as' and we are bound to protect them when they r t heif sailed or abused, or interrupted in the execution o f eb very disagreeable duties. It was your duty, in c oil case as this, to have assisted the policeman, In b fl a have endeavoured to excite the mob against him. you forty shillings for this very serious atTence. 05 0 Defendant—l can't pay the money. All I did w cryshame." I Alderman T. WOOD—I know how ready peoP,,, l tb e you are to interfere in that way. You must P „e .1 money, or go to prison for one month. The defendant was then committed for a month. WORSHIET. Thomas Barnes, a P- i nc h rman ie E se rvice of * 55 0 . ' 0 Sutton and Co., carriers, in . Whitecross street, charged before Mr. Combe, the sitting magistrat e t,ted : having driven over and caused the death of a child nw" Mary Ann Visors, three years of age. oel‘ Thomas Miller stated that between five and 5i1, ( 1 ) 0 4,4 on the preceding evening he saw the defenda nt u.„,. 5 /0 4 a horse and cart, which was proceeding at a ve r ifear pace along Ironmonger-row, St. Luke's. e a bit o, tug a loud scream immediat&y after it Pos r e o , u nde he turned round and obser ve d a female child I.P e r ise a s the horse's feet, and, before Le.had time t° head str alarm, the wheel of the cart passed over i ts not t„ u t ; killed it on the spot. He felt satisfied instanttts,;y, slightest blame attached to the defendant, it I" stopped the horse, and rendered every assist ance 11° .101 in his. power to afford. inquiries ij o' Sergeant Brannan said that from , made on the spot, there could be no doubt that t t bt fortunate occurrence was purely accidental, and th e ity , defendant had used hisbest eftbrts to arrest the c alap ty The defendant's master also spoke in high terms psod his general conduct as a steady and captious driver,' or having offered himself as bail for the defendan t ' pearance at the termination of the inquest, t" The Magistrate acceded to the a p p li c ation, an d defepdant was discharged out of custody. MORTALITY in the METROPOOS' --------- gor lsstl The following are the results of " A Table o f fro!! fr , in the Metropolis, showing the Number of Death,.4, t 1 all Causes registered in the Week ending Satur.OG' 6th of Jul', 1844." The Table is issued from 00 of the Registrar-General:— CAUSES OF DEATH. Total. ..,,- -- 00- - s= 11 -8 Epidemic, Endemic, and Contagious Diseases 191 • 1 14 „' Diseases of variable or uncertain seat ' - 9 8 1 6 ' Diseases of the Briin, Nerves, and Senses... 15 7 _, Diseases of the Lungs, and othe r O rgans . of , 0 7 Respiration 23s 2l Diseases of the Heart and Blood-vessels 27 Diseases of the Stomach, Liver, and other 6 9 ' Organs of Digestion ... 7g 5 Diseases of the Kidneys, &c , 2 1 0 Childbirth, Diseases o f th e Ut erus , & c . 7 6 Diseases of the Joints, Bones, and Muscles.•• 3 1 2 7 Diseases of the Skin, & c 1 ...... Old Age, or Natural Decay 46; 2 By Violence, Privation, or Int em p erance - 9 4.) . Causes specified B7O 9•W Deaths from all Causes OP Tr g DEATHS FROM THE PRINCIPAL DISEASES INC- - 3)V V o p o THE ABOVE HEADS . weekly ye a rs• le • Total. of Fi r " 147 Consumption 137 3 4 Scarlatina Pneumonia . .. Dropsy .. ... .. .. ............ Typhus 24 1 5 Sm y a p ll Pox 36 20 Disease of the Heart Measles Apoplexy Diseases of the Brain ...... Diarrhoea.. Sudden Deaths DISTRICTS. 1 5g . 1 West North Central • 160 201 East ... .. , 166 249 South.. ----- - - 94 6 Total ... ........ . ..... ... Of 10-r,io I, T r it o I L C . K v L I A L N , D: E N :11 1: i l l i ... s t s N D S , s Th " e L la r s v t E .f s ou o r r eha 7 l , of Elizabeth, and the whole ofthe • ' l ' ll- Y-1 ' ' intere. l,, A li , Anne or Denmark, occupy this volume. - 1 ' ,art s Elinbeth'is written with great care and .illn. 0 5, fl' It is the most difficult, as it is the most cons, ?iel'ccesgtO graphy of the whole, and certainly the mo: ''fate' d c pis". Our author is not satisfied with e‘ en an elab 0 0 1 4 of, of the incidents of the reign and the p( T n s r evic,`,i' tory of the Sovereign ; she supplies a comple t ',, pe`," ' d °,. er g the sceial and political characteristics of '' e c iistif" - 1)e ,t England, as it was in - to e. before us—the manners and customs of the 1 ? e ii , ert t fo l , men of mark and eminence—the costume and - o f ilea and so to speak, gossip of the day. 'The art - ni pli to biography has never been more felicitously el'erii 2f t ,o l than in this instance. Anne of Denman'* ; r" ' ll ''''- . 5 a ;io 105 Elizabeth in • intellectual cap •t • h ld si n r 0 ' act 3, et • • 11 1 ' surrounds her with great historical ter° ". 1 111, of Strickland makes the most of it. Of the to r , ° ' o ;alb e ' f a° graphy is likely to fascinate the greater l' , t hel readers ;it is more stirring and dramatic. J 31.1 hg I f. excellent.-Court excellere.Court Journal.- • Ch o A V WORCESTER AND BIRMINGHAM CANAL.-- .... j 0'4%1 yearly meeting of the proprietors of the W o rcest( ' orl eo cl .mingham Canal Company Wk.B held at Worceste r " clu day. The report gave general satisfaction, and a " 00 , l/ 10s. 6tl was declared. ~.0 . ~ ................m..... wr ts/Ot ,to Thr ' co' c tto A SIX POUNDS of TEA, and upwards, sent, on .4 part of the Kingdom, at the Wholesale Price, on receiPL 50* tance, or Post-office order. 49. ad''' 9 Black, 2s. Bd., 35., 3s. 4d., 3s. Bd. 45., 4s. 4d., 70... . es. 4, Green, 3s. 4d., 3s. Bd., 45., 4s. 4d., . 55. , 55. 4d. 66 10, i., ~ :Cl'„je Coffee, 9d„ Is. and ., CO., 4d., Is., l- , 1,et ,4 G. T. MANSELL CO., Wholesale Tea Deal e T, i 'ol2' LERSBURY, CIIEAPSIDE. Agencies will be giv en / parties. :____„„../ . —"----------- to rify BIRTHS. tr. rid 5 f,'sq'' On the 16th ult , at sea, on board the ship m c l- , ith, her passage from . India, the lady of Edwar d '''-- ge, Madras Medical Service, of a son. , 1 / 4 or'' , On the 7th inst., at -Gloucester-gate, R,r t er --' ter' William Dodsworth, of a son. of a d i ath ei is On the 7th inst., the lady of S. Brent, Esq.,,_rt f. i' On the Bth inst., at Piccadilly, Mrs. Gilbert -1 1 V o ' °l of a son. .1. On the 9th inst., at Chislehurst, Kent, Mil" Cuthbert, of a son. - S 43r DIED. On the 4th inst., Clare Jeffery, Esq. , of SWailhslll' folk, aged 41. On the 4th inst., at Sligo, Annemarie , the rent k. James Yonge, Esq , Lieutenant of the 46th Beg r ~''';h e e On the sth inst., Emma, second daughter o t b Knott, Esq., of Bohun Lodge, East Barnet. lierts•A On the 6th inst., at Bishopsteignton, youngest daughter of the late W. White, Esq. , A '-/Pi ft 'iice, On the 6th inst., in Milton-next•Gravesetu.” of the late R. A. 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