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. . cures -taken by- the ViitEß, the Suliotes and Air were put completely to the rout. The last intelligence received at Cadiz, on the 20:h ult. from Lima,' suites, that the VI 63t 0 Y was encamped Is ith 4000 men at Lancon, (eight leagaes . :north of Lima) and Senor LA SERNA, at Lurin, (five leagues south of Linea.) Senor It I CA.- eT was expected to land at Arequipo with 3000 men, to place San Martin between two fires. `.l he sittings of the Cortes at Lisbon, on the 14th and 15th ult., were occupied in the discus sou of the Bth, oth', and 10th Articles of the Constitution, relative to the Liberty of the Press, which was decreed without any restric tion, by a majority of 67 voices against S. The intelligence of the Revolution at Ma deira was announeed•bydischarges of artillery frbrii the forts and ships of war in the Tagus.— Two vessels have arrived-..at Lisbon from Per narnbuco,-antiouncing.that the inhabitants of that Province in Portuguese South America had de clare Hu favour of the Revolution. His. Royal Highness the Elector •WfradAm, So - vereign Landgrave of . Hesse, Grand Duke of Fulda, &C. died on the '2 Gill of last .month, at five o'clock _in .the- morning, of a violent fit of the gout, which attacked him three days before. FRENCIi FUNDS. • March s.—Five ',et et nos. •.. II ttik Stuck 1520 t. c. ' March6.—Firi• per Cents. fk.3 f; IS c. Bank Stud:..,,. • . ;52-1 f. 50 c. AMeticariTa - pers to the 11th ult. came yeter.- clay_ rir_heir contents are unimportant, and not at Interest to this couAtry. 'We 4-lever ; -ivithout much reluctance, animad vert on the conduct of our - Competitors, content ing ourselves with making them speak for them soh;es.in our I)-AIL -EXTRACTS, from the .LON'DON: OURNALS; .but : we cannot suffer a paragraph - which appeared in The Morning •Chronicle of this day to pass without notice, because it is pregnant 'With mischief of the most - insidious' nature, and calculated to excite comrnotion,if not rebellion, in the Sister Island. .We shall submit tbe.parn gral.h entire to the judgment of our Readers, ob serving, however, that this is not the first time that the same MENACING ALTERNATIVE has been held forth in the same parer, and which we be fore noticed with the condemnation it deserved. " If uis MAJEsTY's tour through Ireland should happily take place after he has given the Royal Asttnt to the Roman Catholic. BUIS, he would be hailed as the conciliator of dissen tions. He would spread concord and union Where there has P'evailed je alcusy and distraction. The persecuting spirit of Orangism on the one side, and the humiliating sense of Subjec tion on the other, would yield to the protecting impartiality of OIL Sovereign, and time would speedily reconcile . Protestant ina Catholic into one happy communion of civil and religious reedom. But what must be the fruits of his Royal Visit, if his journey shall ^ ial:e place after the Bills have been thrown out? It is tliis -cons , .deration that snakes us believe th;. - y will • Now, ,we ask every wise and hcnest man, whe ther the obvious and direct tendency of the above paragraph is not to urge his MAJESTY to violate his CORONA NON OATH, in order to admit Pa pists _within the Pale of that Constitution from Nsllich they were .excluded for, its preservation ; lid security, or-wheth er if, i n con fo rm i ty t o th a t c`iernn Compact between the SOVEREI GN and his p I "Pie, his MA JESTY sh o uld reject-their claims to rgislativ e Power, it is not calculated to induce _ thy of Ireland to treat his MAJESTY with "e grossest insults and outrage.—At best the Paragraph' tends to make his MTESTY pause Pre ) be he determines on his visit to Ireland, and per aPs to induce him finally to deny his loyal sub jects in that Country .the high gratification which they confidently expect, and are actively making Preparalions to enjoy. PopEßy.--W e most ea :nestly entreat the pub 4Cattention to Mr. PLUNKETT'S two Bills in fa vour of the Papists, which are inserted in another Part of our paper. They require no comment . frOrn - They spew too plainly the objects 'which la and THE POLITICAL PARTY with whom lie •is connected are determined, if possible, to Obtain; but which never can be conceded by the f riends Of CIVIL.AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY; and t uertifore it becomes imperative on the. Protestant community to make ,their stand at this m nnFmt, and t o. Oppose these Bills by every constitu tional- Means iu their power. The University .r Oxford has .determined petition against Them, and we understand that a similar petition Will 'be presented /15 , - the Sister University of ‘'ambridge, and that petitions, are prepar 'ag throughout - the whole of the country.—We r efer coin.' readers to the .37 - th article of the Es tablished Church, anti request them to compare It. with the observations of Mr. PLUNLCETT upon They will then see tire fallacy of his argu ments, and that his propositions will afford no se :rity whatever to the Protestant interests ; for Athe Papists will NEGATIYE generally the , authority and influence, bona fide, and a 'taunt any mental reservation, as. the Protest fints of all denominations abjure all foreign in rievee whateVer, the former do not bring them cevis within the pale.of .the body politic of the °a ntrv, and therefore ought not to be admitted' ",., 14 4 1 the Legislature or into any offices of State. — "B general prfociples they are inadmissible ; but they are t i . ecessa ' ri!y. so, under the peculiar cir cllmstanies in which. the Royal Family and the Protestant community are placed, from political a s welt as religious conshlnations. The spirit and geni us o f the two religions are so o pp os it e __ 5 0 uncongenial—the dogmas .of their fathers and of the leading members of their Church are so ranch at variance with the spirit and feeling of Civil and Religious Liberty, that it is impossible they can ever be admitted to legislate for the elnirth of England, or indeed have any power to interfere with the religious observances ofany Pro testant sect whatever. Our correspondent yester day44xhibits 'too nakedly, what it is reasonable to Presume, will be the feelings of the Roman Ca tholics, whenever they are let into the possession of political. power. They will not hesitate to upbraid the Protestant " with having abandoned " the . faith of his forefathers that this act "a.arlista4 endangers the future and eternal " welfare 'of soulL-tlnd that they will brand " with the name of here.tic.and dissenter." Neither can we forget the excuse offered by Dr. MALNER, : in : his memorable letter, justifying the breach of, faith of the . Papists to 'Lord 0-acxviLtiand the late Mr. GRATTAN, when they withdrew the pledge Which they had given to those distitignished individuals. Ife said, but we quote froM • memory; not: having his letter before us, though .We are satisfied we give correctly the sub , stance, if not ,the wards he used on that. occasion; —" that they were not.bcAnd to fliffil the' obli " gation they , had entered into; if the circum " stances were different when called on to pet, " form it, to what they were when they made it !" and the Reverend writer; we think, justified . this .reiervation On the authority, of that renowned jesuit, loNATIus LOYALA. If such principles as these influence the conduct of Papists, it is of littleimportance 'what are the stipulations of the oathS intended to be impOsed upon,them., The charges of illiberality and want of charity which . are so lavishly bestowed by our correspondent on the Protestant *riters, come rather with an ill grace, when we . recollect. the opprobrious terms which Mr. GANDOL'FI and the other SupPorterS of the Papists have uniformly heaped . On - Protes , tants in general, not only of the present but of former times. Their coarse and gross invectives on the. GREAT FATHERS of the Reforthed Church we will shortly select, by way of specimen of the Christian meekness and charity which the chili Oren of St. Peter bear towards their fellow .crea .tures of the Protestant persuasion ; at the same time we, intend to submit to our readers the dan gerous effect which these concessions will have on the. REPRESENTATION of the Country IN PARLiA: MENT-in order that the people may see the:true grounds cn which the Whigs have abandoned their Protestant principles; and are nowt the , mourous supporters of the. Papists and .the old Aristocracy. The following is„an extract from an. Evening Paper of yesterday, on which we shall not offer any comment, but leave the public to draw their. own conclusions fiom it. " We learn, by private letters from Oxford, that Petitions to both Houses of Parliament, against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics, were yesterday unanimously voted in full convocation. " Upon this subject, we lay before our readers, 'from a cor respondent,,the following Concise analysis of the historical facts and legislative principles, which produced the penal statutes against the _ Roman Catholics, and the contradictory results which seem to flow from their repeal. We say, seem to flow, because unless it can be established that those penal statutes were meant to be co-existent in all after-time, with the British Constitution, or -with that of the Catholic religion, these re sults are, irrfact, only the necessary consequences of any re peal, at whatever period it may take place. " I assume, as incontrovertible, that King Jaines 11. was deposed for divers arbitrary and illegal acts", and as a Papist.- 1 Will. 111. (Session 2) cap. 2, Preamble, and Clause 1. " I assume, that the posterity of the said King (except his daughters, Mary and Ann, by name), were and are excluded as Papists.---Said Statute, Clause 2. I assume, that the King is required by-law to swear, in open Parliament, or at his Coronation, that he is not a Papist. —Said Statute, Clause 10. " I assume, as incontrovertible, that the House of Ha rov2r is not, by genealogy, the rightful heir of the British Crown. " I assume, that the House of Hanover was placed upon the British throne as the nearest Protestant branch.—Said Stat. Clause 9. _ _ " I assume, as incontrovertible, that the sole right of this House to the possession of it, is under the Act of Parliament above referred to.—But - ----- , " 1. According to our wise legislators, the Popish religion is quite harmless ; Papists are as good as Protestants ; ar.O. all disqualifications, arising from the professions of Popery, ought to be abolished on principles of justice. " 2. According to our honest Legislators, the Popish reli gion is, on principles of justice, no bar to any claim of any rights by subjects. " 3. According to our just Legislators, the Popish religion is a bar only to the right to that tnfling inheritance, the Crown. " 4. According to our conscientious Legislators, the condi-. tional suspension of rights to inferior matters is to be redressed, but the perpetual forfeiture of the Crown is not to be compen sated.—lf then, The above conclusions be really those of out Legislators, I beg to know on what grounds of wisdom, or honesty, their and our allegiance is founded ? " ` Is it on arguments of justice and consistency ? " Is it on motives of convenience arid expediency ? " Is it on good faith, and honesty ?, " Is it from, the difficulty of reconciling conduct to avowed principles, and the necessity of acquiescing with the law as established, at the Revolution, to avoid punishment for the grossest violation oCit--for the commission of high treason, that the oaths so numerously taken by them, and othere, with in the last fourteen months, to King George the Fourth, can be justified. ?' " The question is certainly one of vast importance, and should be entertained without political prejudice on the one hand, or religious bigotry on the other. In the stand which we have uniforinly made against conceding the Catholic Claims we have done so from an honest conviction (a conviction fortified by repeated majorities of Parliament ? and the sentiments of enlightened Statesmen), that the, principles of the Constitution were opposed to such concession. We willingly allow, how ever, that Statesmen no less .enlightened-Land minds of no in ferior quality—are arrayed on the other side. Our firmest hopes, therefore, rest upon the calculation, that whatever form this long agitated measure may definitively assume, will be im pressed upon - it, not rashly, nor by any unskilful hand ; but that it will come forth, matured by nearly half a century of in vestigation, 'and explored by the researches of all those great men who, dur;ng that period, have adorned the Senate of this country, as well as by the collateral inquiries of distinguished writers."—( 'uttrier.) A Mail has arrived from Flanders, with Brus sels Papers to the 6th instant. The Elector of HESSE died of apoplexy on .the 27th ult. The congress of Laybacti is expected to issue a De, claration relative to the affairs of Spain. A Con cordate is said to have been concluded•with the POPE, respecting the spiritual concerns of the Catholic subjects of his Prussian Majesty. • It is apprehended that the plan of a Representative Constitution for Prussia is postponed sine die. No preparations were making so late as the I,7th for the KING'S departure for Laybach. His pre sence may be deemed necessary to preserve peace at home... The latest accounts from Rome men tion, that the vanguard of the Austrian army wits on the 19th ult. only eight leagues distant from that city. Last night, the -outside, or state coffin of the fate Princess ELIZABETH, was removed from the premises of Messrs. BAILEY and SAuNDERS, in Mount-street, Grosvenor-square, to the residence of the Duke and Duchess of CLARENCE. in the King's Palace, St. James's ; and soon after nine o'clock, the remains of the Princess were placed in the state coffin, under the direction of Mr. MASH. The coffin is covered with :crimson vel vet, decorated with silver nails and appropriate ornaments. FUNERAL •OF Ma. Scorr.—Yesterday, about ten o'clock, the remains of the late JOHN SCOTT, Esq. who fell in the duel of Friday, the 16th ult. were removed in a hearse from his lodgings in York-street, Covent-garden, to St. Martin's Church, and interred with great solemnity:— Fourteen mourning coaches, and eight private carriages, formed the mournful procession. SHIP NEWS. HARWICH, MAltc:4 J.—Arrived the Henry Freeling packet, :with a mail, 'fiorn. His Majesty'a ship Brisk has captured off Dungeness ; mial brought in her?, a fine lugger of .58 tons, with a, cargo of 2i3 kegs of spirits, brandy; and gin, and a crew of 8 Foreigners and t English. P O RTSMOU:TH; MARCH 9.—Arrived the Roscoe, Cum 7 min s, from Cowes; with loss of bowsprit; &c. she has come into Harbour to refit. Also came into Barbour the Charles Grant Indisman. The Berwick, Tyler, frOm Demerara, is come up .to the Motherbank. IVEY zuo Tli, MARCH 9—The French brig Young Arthur, of 240 tons, Matenas master, from Si. DoTingo for Havre, went en shore yesterday on the beach, about 7 miles to the westward of Portland, and went to pieces in the evening,; crew saved, except a boy: The Captain unfortunately broke his legs, and the mate was severely injured ;_nothing is saved from the vessel. PLYiiOUTH, MARCIT 8.--Arrived the John, King, from London for Jamaica ; Euphernia, Fisher, from St. Michael's ; and Pallas, Hocguard, from Jersey for Newfoundland. 'Sailed the Good Intent, ,Robertson, for Hull ; and William and Thomas, Lane, for London. FAL - 3101;11i, 7.—Arrived the Lady Arabella packet, with a mail, from Lisbon, in six days. FQWEY, MARCH 7.--:The Active, 'Higgins, from Rio Jarieiro, has touched the ground, and was in a sinking state, when she cut from her cable and ran . on the beach, being nearly full of Water ; she it dischirging her cargo, part of which is much dahiaged. The Tres tiler, Watkin;on, from London to Louth, sprung a-leak last night off Happisburgh, and run on shore with four feet water in her hold; She pras since hove off, and gone for, Yarmouth. DEAL, Mititcn 9.- l Arrive . d and sailed ,fOr the River the Palmyra, Young ; and Norfolk, Lu,tey, from Bengal zSuccess, Martin, from Rio .Janeiro ; Pilot, Owen, froni Calcutta ; Cyrene, Barrett,. from Berbice ; Geo. Days, Edgar,"from St. Michael't ; William and Thomas, Lane, from ditto for Hull ; Amphitrite, Phillips, from Jamaica; .Glo r y, M organ , f rom Demerara, and several more—names unknown. Came down from the. River and remain the Arab, Brigham, for the Isle of France and Ceylon. CLYDE, MAR= 7.—Arrived. the - Clydesdale, Al‘liellar, from Calcutta. Put back the Eliza Plummer, .111Tryd, for Jamaica, leaky, having struck on a rock southward of Fairhead, and must discharge to repair. UNIVERSIT Y INTELLIGENCE. OXFORD; MARCH 9.—On Saturday last the following Degrees were conferred : , MASTERS OF ARTS—The Rev. Charles Goddard, Arch deacon and Prebendary of the Cathedral Church of Lincoln, and one of his Majesty's Chaplains in Ordinary, Christ Church, by decree of Convocation ; Francis Baring, Christ Church. BACHELORS OF Ain's—Thomas Kemmis, St. Alban H a li ; William Cotton Risky, Fellow of New College ; John Win. Lockwood, and Mayow Short, Students of Christ Church ; John Hunter Hornby, Christ Church. Robert Burr Bourne, B. A. Student of Chri s t Church, and Wm. Cotton Risley, B.A. Fellow of New .Coll ege , were ad mitted Collectors of the Determining Bachelors. On Thursday last, at two o'clock, in a full Convocation, were unanimously voted and sealed, two,humble Petitions to be presented to the Right Honourable the Lords Spiritual and Tem poral, and to the Honourable the House of Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, praying that the laws by which persons professing the. Roman Catholic Religion are precluded from sitting in Parliament, and holding certain Civil and Military Offices, may not be repealed. ECCLESIASTICAL PROMOTIONS—The Rev.CarewThomas Elers to the Rectory of Rishangles, Suftblk, vacated 'by the death of his uncle, the Rev. Peter Elers ; the Rev. Richard Porter, to the Chapter Grammar School, Bristol. FLOATING. HOSPITAL ON THE THAMES. As this benevolent Establishment is intended to re- ceive Seamen who come into the Port of London from all quarters of the world, there cannot, we conceive, be any reasonable objection to the im thtihnek b h u e r t f h e sh by ft the eu Shippingships. I 1 1 1 position of a small rate of a f ar thi ng per. ton be t lt I t i e o re s s p t i , ta a i nd to it a lN p •o p u ly ld a en p a o b r le tio t n he of M t a i n le a i g r e v r o s i vi t ' l o g u i rd p i e lo s t d w e e n scontributions t nd, soowtahradts ata f t u h i e i d, in the natu re lu e u f ta ti r ' y e ag o il f ,en a expirationof number of years a capital would be.realized to produce an annual income . .sullicient to pay the average annual expences of the Hospital, When not only the tonnage rate might cease, but ren der unnecessary any further voluntary contribu tions, and thus enable the charitable and 'well disposed subscribers to apply their bounty to other meritorious objects.--A fund of this nature was established a few years in - the General Infirmary in the Staffordshire Potteries.—The Keelmen's Hospital •at Newcastle-upon-Tyne is maintained under an Act of Parliament, which authorises the Coal- fi tters to deduct a small por tion of the Keelmen's wages for that. purpose. KING'S THEATRE.--A rehearsal took place last night of a new Opera entitled La Gazza Ladra. Tickets had been liberally distributed, and a very elegant and numerous company assembled. —The interior is embellished with a box for his Majesty, splendidly decorated. The 'music of the piece was much admired. Rossini. is the composer. We have no . room for detail, and can only add that this chief resort of the higher circles opens under very promising auspices. THE ORATORIO.—The season commenced at Co - vent Garden Theatre last night, under the direction of Mr. Bisnoe. The band. was • full and correct. The music well selected. Miss STEPHENS, Miss POVEY,: Miss WARWICK, and Messrs. VAUGHAN and KELLNER, were the vocal performers. The whole was well received. MARRIAGE IN HIGH HUGHES BALL is about to lead to the Hymeneal Altar, the beautiful Lady JANE PAGET,: the eldest daughter of the Marquis of .A.NGLeseA. •This match has been long on • the lapis. All the .ar rangements were finally agreed - on a few days Since. Mr. BALL'S present residence, in. Upper Brook-street, being considered only *as a .bache lor's residence, the parties are now on the look'; out for a more suitable dwelling. The Jntended Bridepoom, by the death of =a .rich ' Mick, has had an addition to his arnaziug Yfertune of Two Hundred Thousand Pounds THE EARL OE D sA ied yesterday at his seat, at Ham House, near :Richmond, the Right Hon. WILBRAHAM TOLIENIACHE,. Earl D YSART, Viscount 11UNTINGTOWER, Lord High Steward of Ipswich, &c. &c, -By the demise of this Nobleman,"his sister, the Right 'Hon. Lady LouisA MANNERS, becomes the representative of the ancient• and noble family of Tow;:vi:tc:nr, and succeeds to the titles, Six. PARLIAMENT, hOU,SE OF .I.,ORDS, MARCH 9. ~. . Petition preented, on the part of Viscount 11 , Iolesworth, claipii.ng for his Lordship the right of voting at the elections of .Irisli Peers, was, re:- ferret.' to a Cominytee of Privileges to consider and report thereon. Mr. BROGDEN,• and other.mernbers from the House of Commons, brought up ..the Lunatic Stock Transfer Bill, the Nova cotia Trade Bill, and the New South Wales buties.l3ilf• Mr. MANSFIELD brought up the Leiceger"Gas Bill and Mr. HART DA-vis, the Bristol Gas Bill. All these Bills were read a first time:. ..4. - person from the Treasury presented. an . Ac count of all the Warrants issued from the office of Vice-Treasurgr in Ireland.. • . . The Uarl of SnAi-Tsanity presented.a Petition from the Mayor; Aldermen, and Burgesses of the Town of Beverley, in the County . of York, aaainst any further concessions to the Roman eatholics. The Petition was read, anti ordered to lie on the table. . , • The Marquis of LANSDOWN presentecra Peti tion from the Ship Owners of the port of Sunder land, praying that no alteration might take place in the existing duties on the importation of Tim ber from North America. The Noble Marquis observed, that although he was opposed to the prayer'of the Petition, he felt it his duty to pre sent it to the House. The Marquis of LANSDOWN then moved for an Account of all Goods exported from Great Bri tain to France during the last year, distinguish ing the flags under which the goods were exported. The Offenders' 'Transportation Bill was read a third time, after which the House adjourned till Monday. F• HOUSE OF COMMONS. This being the. last day appointed for the bringing in of private bills, a great number of them were read a first time. , . Mr. BYNG brought in a Bill for establishing a company, for the better- lighting of the suburbs. and the vicinity Of the tiaetropolis with gas. Read a , • first time. - NAPLF.4., Sir Itonhtur WILSON gave notice; that the tribi• tion which he- had intended to-haire. submitted last night, for the production of a letter from Sir William A'Court to the Neapolitan Minister,. he would, if it should be found necessary ; submit on Tuesday the 20th of March. • BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. • Mr. S. WORTLEY said, he rose to bring under the notice of the House one ,of •the most gross breaches of priVileges that had called for its at tention. It vvas known that for many years past the debates ano votes of that House had been' pUb lished ;- he was one of those who believed that, when fairly' given, they produced the utmost bfinefit to the community. Since the House, therefore, had connived at their publication, it became it to take the utmost care to•see that that permission was not abused—to prevent any false motives .being imputed , to its Members, as influ encing their votes, and especially to prevent their being represented to vote for or against, questions that were never submitted to its con sideration, nor,to give a false colouring to its pro ceedings. The particular circumstance to which he' had now to call the attention of the House, was the statement of a Minority of that House, which appeared in The Morning Chronicle, of the 26th of February, under the follow ing title :—" A List of the Minority of thirty seven•that. voted against the Petition of Thomas Davidson being rejected before it was read, and against the admonition of Lord Castlereagh that the people should not continue to trouble Or take up the time of the House with their Petitions." —(Cheers by the Opposition.)—By this state= ment, which was not correct, it must be intend•- ed to impute to the Majority that they had adopted and supported the contrary opinion. Now no such question was ever put to the House as that stated in the Paper ; it was therefore a gross libel, and, he must add, consisting of the greatest falsehood.—(Loud cheering by the 013 position.)—He would appeal to the lion. Gen tlemen who cheered him, to prove whether. any such proposition was made.—(Continued cheers.) When a Member came forward to make a corn plaint of a • breach of its privileges, were Mem bers by their cheers- (Repeated cheering.)— The Gentlemen who cheered (More cheer ing.)—Here the Honourable Member appealed to the Speaker, and order having been restored, the Honourable Member proceeded. It would appear by the cheering% , he had heara that some Gentlemen supported the libel. As long as he was a Member of that House, he had a right to declare his opinion. By the statement it was in tended to convey an imputation upon the motives by which the majority had voted, ahhough he would defy any One to prove that any such pro. position had been made ; no such expression 'was uttered ; and even if it had, no one had'a right to charge the majority with having adopted the sentiments of another ; if such Was to be the case, then there would lie an end to all freedom of de.. bate. He might not, perhaps, have taken so much notice of the present complaint, had he not seen a similar :insinuation accompanying a late division on a motion for the reduction of the taxes. He called upon the House earnestly not to pass over this violation of its laws, and he trusted it would exert itself in protecting its privileges. Under these circumstances, he should move that J. Lambert, the Printer of The Morning,Chroni.:. de, be ordered to attend at the Bar of the House on Monday next. Mr. G. RENNET congratulated the House that the lion. Member had plucked up courage enough to bring forward this complaint. Whe ther it was an act of discretion or otherwise, it would be for the House to determine. lie was present during the discussion, and from what he then heard, he believed the statement in the pa per was true.—(No, no !)—lle repeated, it was substantially true, although perhaps the words literally might not have been used. He 'had, since •he heard of the intended charge, looked over the Journals, and found lists of majorities and minorities had been published for upwards of a century. [The Honourable Member read from a statement in his hand a list of the divi 'Sions to. whi,di, he had alluded.] - Thisiias the first time that. anycharge,had, been mac!e.against their being published,and ,- the : present ccimplaint is as at the best.of- very doubtftil.fiMmi.e;* - fpr he must again repeat, that" the Made upon lii3 mind was, that the staterneaid to be a breach of the Privileges of the "House, was substantially : true. lie considered it a good omen that Gentlemen were tenacious as to the judg ment that might be formed by the people Of their, conduct, by' the publication - of their votes; 'low ever it might suit them to give their votes in that House, although no Metrib e r ought to be aShamed of any thing he might, propose in it. For him, self he did .give his vote against - the 'Petition being rejected before it was read, and he 'Would also add, that he did so in opposition to the ad monition that had been given by the Noble Lord. The lion. Member not having been preSenf, bad bebu iiroperly ptit• forward upon this.occasion, beCausr he. Was no party to the question,' how= warmly he had supported it. ile'by no means wished to interfere in the progre - ss of - pub. lie business; but as lie knew no_ other'way of getting quit of, the complaint,• he should 'move that the House dp.pow adjoUrn. • Sir C.. LONG was surprized:that the charge of, warmth Shodld have been brought forwartragaiust his Hon. Friend, who deserved it as little as any` individual in that House; but it came with a pew 'culiarly ill, grace from the. Hon: G en tlem a n w h o had made the charge, who was more liablOV fall into,warutth of expression than xmost.other Mem- , hers in the House. The Right Hon... Meinber • then entered into a defence of the conduct of the .11oue hi the vote they gave on the . oci:a.'sion" in question ; and denied that Lord Castlereagh had used such expressiOns as, those imputed toliiin ; still less had the House divided on an v such lion as that put at the head of the list ou.this'Oc . casion. WILSON did not rise to defend the.pa- , ragraph, ,but he trusted, after the lenity which had been recently extended to the Printer of the Gazette, for the•insertion of kgross libel ,1n the Address of a certain Scotch Presbytery, thatAhe Hon. Gentleman would imitate that condUct;and contenting himself with having called the:lath* . .tion of the House to:it, withdraw his motion. • Mr. CREEVEY was one of the 37 who formed this minority ; and. speaking of the impression Made on his mind, the NOble Lord had used•the words imputed to him in this alleged libel and, in his ;opinion, - the Printer had stated no more than what passed, though he did not intend to impute to the Noble Lord that he intended to use the. term admonish generally, and without qualification. Mr. WALLACE said, the question now• before the }louse did not regard what had been said, by the Noble Lord, but related to the motive which had been imputed to the House on the vote it had come to. Ile was not prepared to say that the house could pass ever this breach of privilege without noticing it. • Sir J. NEWPORT recollected, and was able to repeat, the expression used by the Noble Lord, which was" as stated, tt recommendation to Mem. , hers to admonish the People of England :how they presented their Petitions to the House ; though he was ready. to acknowledge that 'the Noble Lord afterwards explained, 'and qualitiA the expression he had used. Sir M. W. RIDLEY was . not present during the debatein question, but felt bound to allow' that, if the Noble Lord .bad 'used • the 'expression so imputed to him, his subsequent explanation had' done' it away. He hop e d, ho wever, . Friend would be content to witlkdraw his motib'n. Mr..l . lu4Eissom. complained of the pai.agrapli . as giving a false colouring to the grounds'nfion which the House came to its vote's ,on the even-. ing in question. It would appear that the vote was come to for the purpose of admonishing he people. not to petition. He must cond er n a im puting motives to any Member for his vote, even though it should be assigned to the MeMber for Appleby to ascribe what those motives were:. Air. S. 'WORTLEY replied. The Hon. Mem ber for Shrewsbury had accused t!im of indiscre. tion ; • but he would ask, was ppt that Hon. Mem-, ber more indiscreet in defending what was, not true ? The Hon. Member - had also accused. him (Mr. W.) of having been put forward on. this occasion. lie denied that he bad ever been put forward on this or any other occasion whatever. The Hon. Member for Shrewsbury might have been, he knew not when or by whom that lion. Membei' was put forward, but he knew this, the lion. Member supported one party, whilst he supported another. He did it conscientiously, and 'he was willing to alloW that the Hon. Mein bet- for Shrewsbury acted with the same feeling: Sir M. RIDLEY (to Order), said, he understood his Hon. .Friend was inclined to withdraw his motion. He therefore trusted he would not now enter into argument. . , Mr. S. WoaTLEY was ready to withdttly ids motion against a poor Printer, who wag not the great delinquent ; but as the statement'ivas iil it calf libellous.and false, he must expect that Hon. Members opposite would state that the person, whoever he was, who sent it .to the Paper inques tion, had been guilty of an indiscretion. Lord CAsTLEREActi had only just entered the House, but understood sufficient of the, subject under discussion, to enable him to know to.what it alluded.: The paragraph in question: hart been pointed out to him, and he had ,been told he ought to, call,- the attention of the House to it, but. there Ni•ere such a multiplicity of these things before the public continually, as applying to Mi nisters, that he' trusted he should be excused for `not regarding them—(a tamh)--especially 'when their 'own absurdity, as in the present instance, .rendereti them 'so ridiculouS as to discredit them altogether. The Noble LOrd then entered into an explanation of the eXpressi6n lie had used on 'a fernier night, and said he Used the term admo nish not as'alluding to . the petition, but that the , people -should:'be advised, that the House of Commons was not a Court of Appeal from the- Court of King's Bench ; and he was'per'SUaded no fair mmi could have mistaken his Meaning. ' Lord A. ilAmwroN thought the .oabfiefition discreet, but he did not consider it ;:s of a charac ter to call for the serious attention oithe Mr. C. HuTc.t:lNsoN . did not mean to impute