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INFER ,PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF PEERS. FRIOA.I", JUNE THc ROYAI , A V&A v' as gi yen, , by.. Commission; to the Twelve Millions Loan Bill ; the Ship Protection the_ 'Militia Transfer Bill ;, to .a few other Public Bills, an.:; to a slumber of Local anti rrivate Ads, forming an aggieate of 47 Bilk. The Lords Commissioners were the Loa D CH.% NG? Lord W LS . T NOllAg, and Lord ALv LEY. The' lrish Ship Protedion Bill, the Irish Benefice Trust Bill, the Subalterns Provision Bill, and a few'Pri; yaw Bills, were brought up from the Coalman; by, Mv, - A %Nut/ER and other Gentlemen—these were severally read a tiest time.. The various Bills before the. Irousti . Were forwardedin their . •espedive stages. . • CLERGY RESIbENCE rhelOrder of the Day'respe::ting this Bill being. read, iinfriedi3tely preceecledr . to the dhx.nissron •., • ... Ainemlinerits, the adj: , urneci Clauses, &e. ..:riy part of the discnskdon, • 1110.1 called the; atte:nion of the House to the • . j of ve,sterday, by wilicn th . 4. Chapl: in General of ' fibrces was expunged from the I.ist of E xemp :let:near,J of State then detailed the causes fed to I fit appOint.4l:::ilt of the. Office of Chaplain Ge.. of the Forces, the prinipal came of which was the .inolitkyn of regimental Chaplains. He then assigned his le4was tar deernihA •,•herx.l , ,c,tl executing that Office a very nroner one'to he ine l / 1 , .. , ..d in the List of Exemptions, and 1:J(Ao1 for the rr.-in.rraductivn thereof into the bill. Lora t., t, v repeated his objtaions of yes terday,. t« the °ince bei:ll.; included, ana stated that his opi. /iron the point remained fi r ht .c 4 T.1,L0 mate a few general observations in support of .siltat had. fallen from the Noble Secretary ot; statt: _ _ _ The Ear/ orR A ONOR. shortly stated Iris sentiments on the oc,c4e,inn, when the 1161.15 C divided, and there appeared I`at Lord P cr to M's Motion fore-including the Chaplain General • - Againht it 6 . • • Majori•y . • * After some farther diScnistoti of different parts of the amendments and clauses,, a second division took place,- as we could collect on an an , enchnent proposed by Lord R i ot . v 11.1. t., tending 10 VOW t la: exemptions the 13encticed 4.:iergyrrica provided a sufficient Curate to oliiciate,.&c. the npinbas wore, .. • For the amendment - - 6 Against it • - T 4" - Majority - -8 . Per . Lome farther revisions of the Clauses and Amend. were made by the House, LORD CHLINCELLOR expressed, in one sense; his sfact ion, that they had arrived, at a part of the Bill, where ! . in any father alteration would render the measure worse. 1'.113/4NLEY made a few general observations on the and adverted to certain parts of the. Rill which had not his entire approbation. Ile then expressed his opinion,.. that thetnegsuTe being one of ntt o m xperiental nature, 'it should te temporary 3 and contJuded by moving, to limit the (tura ration of the Bill TO the 2_,fth of lime, dl 10, Ar LORD CLIANCIa.LOR A iti answer to what fell from the .I...iarned Lord, repeatectand enforced several of h„;!, formor arguments inntavow of the Bill's'being rendered : he thou Ant that even milli& grounds such an enactment was o,Pprised, as those , who were to be aff4led by it would .the more easily lie down„under, a grievance, Amon the considera tion of its being only. temporary, ,then.they would were it proposed to be permanent. Whatenter the decision of the .1-louse may be on this very important point, he v(ould deter to it. .And he adverted to the considerations attending a da caion where; in the one. -- case the subject 14/.* canto both the, Legislature for revision, and in the other it mes T.* . Tbit Ear/ y: RADNOR, atier a few introductory observa tions moved, in the way of Amendment to the Learned Lord's 111otitin, " that the tam' of the Bill's .duration be extended to the Ist of anuary, .3818." After a few wordsltom Lords Pti.n st and At vA Laid SHEFPIELD ohjected to the Bill toing made per petual, because it would eni;otmge an eXpeOation of a per manent system of relaxation, in sespect to Parochial Resi nem*, tie readily agreed that : it was highly.neeessary to re lieve the Clergy from vexatious suits, but he con Id not ad mit that •it was also neee,i,ary to r.itablish by law such a plan of exemptions anti disp , :asations, except as a temporary expedient. - 1110 House divided on the proposition of the latter, Contents,, - • 4 hfort4Contents, . • ni • Majority, - • . On the re-Adritisbion of GRENYILLis wo ? ,o'2ltvering his sentiments, with ,ttspcii 'to. the paint of .ilur4iosi,' anti argued in favour orthe tern poraryaiternsti ye. aliswcr to tit::: Noble-Uni t repeated ltis t onner observati olii; or, tiL...• inotitite, Linnet:iv:A as likely to be attended catis, though p:rnaps it was not , or t h at cuinprdicaqvc nature which he could wi4l—tiport the Whole:, t 4 seorrittl to think the Bill.should be tanned as pormancilt. ,— The Noble Secretary, in . .ilLuding -14 t h e Stature of Ut o. ViF L. .ov.pirssed ,hl3 Vutiner ooinioo of ,h ()attire of suspending Act.. The Howie theta di' icicd ~ti tlie propo? , ition of the F. Jrl of It A ',Not:, for limitkltg t ..11.4rativtl Of the Aci to tire tat of Tama/try ISIS, .error: tilt! Coritents wer e Non-Contents to Majority ---- 1 T While the strangers were excluded, e e understood it was decided, that the .101 siould be enacted as a permanent mea sure, after which . the Bill was read a t The question was then put for the pas3ing of the.l3lll, (and on our re-ca tering the House), , • /.4.4 GRENVILLE w;4 delivering his sentiments gene rally upon the measure, and in a speech of some length, re capttulated gad enforced several of the. leading points he !tad previously, and at difli;rent,pergalsadvariced agiuns,t the 11143- 641 t. " PkillANl, in consequence of What had fallen from the N Ale Lord relative to the plan in the contemplation of the late. Alinisters, for' ameliorating, the condition Of the poorer. Clergy, took occasion tcll rein:tit that as circumstances, !stood, it was by no means the tattltot His Nlajesty'S present William that the plan for stich a purpose was nor carried' into ela:6l, his ternark induced a short expLinatory versatibn between his Lordship, Lord Ca zNvtL L e, and Lord tithietltT, in 'the eontSe of which Lord t.4iton t..t. disclaimed his having sain Ow fault 'lay with the. prc.,ent tllnisters; to tar from to t:30:: a censure upon 1.4 present Government oo head, heliad neverniooted the r that the present Ministers liad never received the least communication front pre pr ikcessora ort the subjed id question, which as an important p4hlit objea, any assistance or information thereon would; . he may . rAty, be gratefully !We:VA, The citlentors was tticii put, the Bill was passed, and a Mr sitge ordered to be seht . to the ContinOtis,aquaititing them their Lordships had passed the' same with sel , erat m ents ; after which the House,. at .Walf.past Nino o'Clockt adjourned till Monday, HOUSE OF e:'0111MONS. . . , . . . , . • . FRlpik t , ittliE ;,L. , ' The House was isoonoctl by the Spl4mci 4 th a t he had been in Ole iiOuse . of Pcer3, til,Lit.tlie 'Royal „As,sent was ,f,iven by Cornmisainn to seiiat4l Public autl Priviiic Bills, w;tich lie stated. The 'hill fur ex tenclin the limits or the Southern Whale wai rsacl a2l ecbna thug; 9.t the Motion or Lord GLe;;1111,JtVII:. • sip r. 1. it c? 4.: 1- oN bmoght up the Report oft he Pgh lanot mr,,,tts P. I. A ineritlmentS heir% read, Mr Kr t 4 I'4 AIR 7.1 fovea that the name of CitA R. 7.4 3 DU Nr. rips, Esq. bo adtteillo the Commissioners ti reatrying ilia Trusts I , eiler intriexecutiyn. Mc. 0; fi o was sorry to op this Motion, but he did se on the ground of the number ot . the 'l'nistees haying peen already lirrtitcrl by t h e 1 - louse. Mr. I(z:is A tats not sec the neeety of limiting the, dumber of the Coinulissioners Itated by the Hon: thntle. man; on the contrary,. he thought those for whase'bontfit the Trusts under th is 41111 were to he created, voisld be g;laif or the good otflecs of they Hun. Gentleman he had done hims e lf the honour of proposing, neither hail lie done it Rutely (rein re.. spe6t to that Hod. fieritlerrian, but hi' an, thneedsity of i t , f o r many of the Ceiltleirien already named in thO 13111 'would be . trhalioittablY absetit'on public duties, • '• • .'ll 3O question wilc 1;4.44 earned. Mr. i pog•tiotkcx, that ho should niove on Ittondaynext 'tor a turther sum- of money graniegi to His M 3 Jaith 9115efil4CACt` of the Report of the Highland ... Zuryey uonvittleo, 4 1 The Fast:lndia Dock Bill was ercTered to be recommitted on Monday, on the motion or Sir Fit Ave.; s BARS Ho. The Horse Hide 13111 was read a third titne_and . passed„ A Mes Sage from the Lards informed the House, their Lor dships had agreed to the Bribery Oath Bijl, withoitt any amendment. _ _ Mr. A Litxa No KR brought up the Reperrof.the Commit tee on the Assessed Taxes. The Resolutions were read, • greed to, and a Bill ordered to be brought in on the last' Re solution. • ;—" fire Stei ETAit Y at WA, ~moved the Order of the Pay for the second reading of the Militia Officers Bill.—Read a 6Voand time, and ordered to he committed to a Committee of the whole Hauseon Monday. The S reit e'r Aa y at ,W As said, he- propoied bringing forward the Militia Pay Bill on Tuesday next, and therefore. he moved, that the Report be taken into further considers. tion on that day.---.ordered.. • The CH A NCEILO& of the ExcurQuza mare:l, that there be laid betbre the House an account of. the Amount of Ex chequer Bills made out in the last Session of Parliament, for raising nine Millions by Loans on Exchequer Bills for (real Britain, for .oia,3.—Ordefed.. • - 'LOTTERIES. • ' • • the CHANCELLOR of the EXCH FQC ER moved The order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into 'a Committee of the •whole House to consider further of Ways and Means for raising a Supply ,ranted to His Majesty. The House having resolved itself into a Commit. tee accordingly, The CHANCELLOR if she EXCHEQUER said, he. had to.state to the COmmittee the terms on which he had contracted three Lotteries for the ,Ser. vice of the present year. It was thought expedi. - enti tinder the present circumstances, to reduce the ,surn.s to be paid'for Prizes, and also to reduce prop Tortionably the number of Tickets from that of last 'year. The number last year was 90,000 'rickets, „with a power,of raising them to 100,000. The , :number this year was 70,000, with the power to increase them to $O,OOO. The contrad had been .made for three` Lotteries for the Service of Great and the profits to the Public would be 35, 2,0001. a refit which, under all the circuni. sr a nce a which .fte had ;adverted to, would, .4 he hoped, be deemed sufficient by the Committee, on the 'part of the Public, He found on • reference. it somewhat• excerdCd , the profits of Lotteries con. traded for on the part of *Great 'Britain and ' Ireland, during the last t z years. It was for 70,000 Tickers at 151. a Ticket, but the Party expressed a wish that the number should be Somoo, and there.: fore the price was t 31. 31. rd. WhateVer opinion Might 'be entertained of the expediency of-this mode of raising money for the'' Public by way of Supply, he was sure there could be' but one wish as -to one thing Which had, .formerly accompanied it, he meant that of LOw.lnsurance The mode of 'Drawing adopted-last year obstruCted.Very much that praetice„ Indeed he bAieved he might say, it was almost, if not-altogether, prevented. The Drawing, however from its'gre.it rapidity was attended with some con_ fusitm, and therefore Instead of only eight or ten days being allotted for that purpose, it was 'propos. ed that, the time; should he softie what extended ; but the. Committee would learn ; with satfsfadion, that. this Would not produce a renewal of the mischief of ;ow insurance: all the arrangements were similar to what were adopted last year, and no other alteration than that which he had already stated. He therefore moved, That it' is the opiniOn of this Committee, that 'a sum not exceeding 1,052,3 331: 6s. 83, be raised by three Lotteries, whereof 7o 1,500. and a Fran ion be',,for the serViceofEngland, and 350,7791. - and a Fr alan for Ireland. The queStion being.put,' Mr. nelß/NGTON said, he, did not doubt that the Ministry had made as goo(' a . bargain for the Public as he could, rind be wished to bear testimony to the accuracy of the Right Hon.' Gentleman.. Hit was alsO ready to admit that one , of the great evils which 'tad attended Lotteries had been done away, namely,, the practice 'arrow insurance. It was now either eniitely dune away, or reduced to almost no, thing; but "still he ObitAt3l to 'the Lottery .altoge ther as a system, because it was giving countenance tea gainbiing , which was a great vice, .and brought its train a great - number of moral evils, the cf. icts of which could not be caleulated. incul .cated principles contrary to the commands of the Alr.lig4iy, and must be .a great evil in a social stroe, ; , it might Suit the' morals of a neighbouring ruttion, but was: wholly repugnant to ours. He expatiated much mirage on these topics, and con. chided with recommendift to the CHAN Cet.LOR cat EXCilEitlE it to adopt some other mode of cais.: oley tor the public service, more suitable to osit excellent moral charataer, and less injurious to the morals of the Ptiblie.. The CI - I,INCELLO I? of the' `EXCHEQUEI: said, he was sure that tihate ver difference of opi. nion might subsist berWeen the Ron. Gentleman and him, he . was Fedi:fay ready to do justice to his motives in the share he Itadt4ken.in the discussion of this subj„tt, and the lion. Gentleman, as well as the Committer, ,might be assured, and he hoped the, Hon, Gendemith would do him the jest ice to believe, that, if he thought this system Would be . theineaus of the increase of private vice,. he would not propose. it. "the truth was, that there were objedions, the principle of which had been afters acid amply discussed, and they had been fully an. swered. It was well known, there was a disposi tion which - inclined a considerable number of per.. a . ,Sos adventure to-a given extent .. in the tottery, it was not unworthy the.wistlom of the Legis. lature to profit by that disposition, and to turn it to the account of the Public Revenue. There. Would be no . good to the Public if Government abstained from this mode of raising money, for this disposi.:, lion to speculate in. fortune, if not thus indulged, would take some other turn whieh might produce some mischief, and the benefit now derived to the Public would be lost. - Besides this, the Committee has the admision of the Hon. Gentleman, that the gteat evil, namely, that of low insurance, was done away hy.the.measures which had 'been adopted by Parliament in reiulatini the mode ut drawi ng. This, he would be bald enough to .44Y, was doing away nine-tenths of the-eVils - which had ever at. tended Lotteries. Ile was, therefore, now aahig on a principle which 'Parliament had long tecog.: and acing upOri it after almost 411 the evil of the praClice linen done away. The Qom: mittee would cot forget, that 'this systetn was by nA , ineant new,- k4iAt with OA creptitip- of one yeo6 it bail been followed tot the l as i 30 ;!ears, and that the system itself was as old as 'the reign, ot •Que . en Anne. tinder tt'l- th ese con'. siderations, be thought not *that he was justi. fled in . pursuing ,a system of Lottery, but that he could not have been justified if he had omitted it, for it Will not to be forgotten, that if he did nut pursue this plan,, 35'0,0001. a year must hare been raised by TaNes. Foi these reasons he begged leave to persist in his motion. - ,Afro wished..to -enter his protest against •the recognition of Patliament as a reason for adopting the measure; if itivas in. itself -a bad - one; neither was its antiquity any sant - lion:to it, if bad. If bad, the longer it had been afted upon so , much the worse. He admitted that the .great • of low insurance, had been considerably suppressed, in ;%vhich there was much merit ; but whether the, whole practice had been entirely done away. he doubted very much. He expatiated upon the vice of gambling, aggravated as it must he when any mea sure of Government gave it a sanelion, of the aid of which he maint a ined no one cou ld h ave an adequate idea who had not seen the wretchedness-which it produced in a neighbouring country. He admitted, however, that as the great evil of Lotteries, that of low insurance, wog done away, there was no period, since the systeM of the Lottery was adopt ed, in which arguments against its continuance were of less force than they were at, the present moment. Still he wished it to be understood that a principle of gambling, which was the principle of. a Lottery, was one which it was'nor Wise in a State to cherish. Mr. WILBERFORCE Omitted that the mea, sures which Government had taken to preVent low insurances in the Lottery were much to be ap proved, because the good ,they did was very great, and for which he begged leave.to'return to them his thanks ; but notwithstanding this he could not for. bear saying he thought the , whole system Of 'iLot te-ry injurious to a' State, because injurious to mo rals. He thought it brought with it an encourage ment to a spirit of gambling, which .was certainly most injurious in every view that could be taken of it, holding forth, as it were 4 an inducement to vice' in the first instance, and an encouragement to in. formers to dete6 it, in the second. •- . VANS/7741a' answered all. the ohicrva. tions of the two lion. Gentlemen who 'spGke last. He observed, that the main evils pf a Lottery arose from the-:kft they had on the lower orders of the peor:v, I were almost entice)) , removed by two regulationi; . one; was to put an end to the minure subdivision of Tickets, and rite Other - , to put an end to low 'insurances, of both which he gave a succial history, and defended the Motion before the Com mittee, • • Mr. COARY assured the Committee, from his personal experience, that the plan adopted for drawing th e Lottery, by whi c h insurance was pre vented, had the most salutary effeet in Ireland. The Question was then put and carried. The House being resumed, the Report was ordered to be received on Monday next, Sir H. M LDMAY asked the CHANC Loa of the. ExcncQuEß which of the two important • matters was to be, discussed on Monday, sinie he was aware they could not both, the Tax on Pro perty, or the Bill of the Army of Reserve ? The aIIeiNCRLLOR of the EXCILEQPER said, he thought the Bill for raising the Army of keserve was the most important and pressing in point of time, and therefore he thought it advisable to gi‘4 it precedence. Accordingly he moved, that the Order of, the Day on the Real Property Bill shOuld-be deferred to Tuesday, and the Personal td Wenesday next, which was ordered accordingly:. EXCISE BILL. The Order , of the Day being read for going into a Committee on the Additional Excise Duty Bill, Mr. PLUMMER said, as he approved of some of Duties and disapproved of others, he wished, that instead of their being all in one Bill,_ they might he.divided into different Bills, and then the House could , decide distinetly upon each. This was opposed hi the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER and after a short conversation it was negatived. The House having resolved itself into a Com mittee upon the Bill, The CHANCELLOR qf the EXCHEQUER .said, it might be some convenience if he stated some of the alterations he meant to propose; and which he hoped would obviate some of the objec tions which had been made from very respeetahle quarters, against this measure.—Soon after the Union between England and Scotland, the Duty payable on Malt in Scotland was only half what it was in England ; at that time Malt was not only made from Barley in Scotland, but from Bear anti Bigg. This 'disproportion between the duties in the't wo Court tries continued till, last Session of Parliament, when an additional duty was laid on Malt equally in both Countries.---A: great deal of uneasiness* was oc casioned inScottend by this duty, which was much increased by the circumstance of theßarlcy harvest being very had last , year in „Scotland : The con sequence of which was, that a large quantity of Barley was imported from England, where the !threes; had been uncommonly abundant. Many people attributed this importation of Barley into that Country as the effete of the additional duty which had been laid on, whereas in fad it arose from the badness of the weather. He admitted that it would not be right to lay the suite duty upon Malt, made from bear and bigg, in Scotland, as upon Malt made from barley, became the fcirmer was of an loferior quality. With respect, to the barley of Scotland * he thought the new duty cm it to be the same as in England. He should therefbre propose, that the dUty upon malt made from bear and bigg in Sent land, should be one-third less than upon Malt made from barley, that is to say, that it should 'be one shilling and four l pence, instead' of two shit. lings: He hoped the House would agree to this proposition this Session, and that early in the ,next Session, a Committee might be appointed . to inquire into the different degrees of value between the bar. ley of England, and, the barley and bear for bigg of Scotland. At present, therefore, he should propose to' pass the Bill, bearing an equal duty upon barley in the two countries, making rh; distinOton he had mentioned k the case of bear attd bigg. Si ! .74mAs ,ST.C4AIR ERSKINE said, he was aware of rhe unpleasantness} of contending at a time like ;he present for what appears to be a , local exemptio n . He begged however to state some rea sons which appeared' to him tdehew that the Duty • ,1 • ought not' to be laid equally on tt . .e Bark)? of Eng. land and 'Scotlatiol.: Soon after the Union, the duty upon Malt in Scotland was fixed' at one half of the . duty upon Malt in England.. At that time Malt Was made in Scotland from bear and bigg. Barley • was afterwards introduced into Scotland, bin it was always admitted that it was inferior to English bar lei);poppinio , r arttthel?liil utyhati always continued in the vitae d lastlaltyiena!'hoit'theCnoutinletrritew. was sT ble an equal duty' upon N e flonourable- Baronet then went into a very a and detailed argument, and contended, from a va riety of fads, that the inferiority of Scotch bar ley to that of English was so obvious, that if the Duty was laid equally urn the Malt in both Countries, that the people of Scotland woul4 be under the necessity of importing all their barley from England, and that the cultivation of that grain must be discontinued in Scotland. All he conten ded for_ was,that as there was an acknowledged inferiority in the grain of Scotland, there ought to be a pro. portionable deduelion in - the price. The -CHAN CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had 'stated that it would be piooosed to appoint a Committee to in quire into this subje4l—if such a Committee was appointed, he had no doubt but the statement he l l' 4 made •would he fully substantiated. ,He 'was aware 'that it was impossible at this period of the,SessioN to go into the proposed Committee of Inquiry, lid .was therefore willing; in. party to accept the pla ,position tvlsich had been made by the CHANOI.• the EXCHEQUER. He. stated, that. the mode in . which he ascertained the. differcii.ce. between the English and the Scotch 11 uley s ." l/ by combating the different :prices wilith 04 'Lure when. they . met in the same market. VI price of too quarters of English Barley Was eq u " to .134. quarters of Scotch Barley, and' to •i. 1.1 qu ar 7 - ters of . and Bigg : : he concluded with ,feelarifii that it was by . tfo means his wish thit ihota nOr Vear -fief prOportion of the general lrat'• thens i .. _he was only anxious that she _should out pY inure than her short:. Mr.-CORRY, in a speech of very great ability, combated -the arguments of the-Hon. & I roner, and, contended that the disadvantage was not. So Vest on the pact of Scotland as he had represented ; lie entered into a variety of calculations to thew that upon the Hon. 'Baronet's own statement, the anon'." ance made on the Distilleries was greater than I t, ought to, be. He was far from wishing t hat Scot land should be taxed beyond her fair pr3portioni because he felt, as he was sure every Member . that House did, a most lively interest in the tv.4tre 'of that part of the United Kingdom, he only mii nt to contend that there was not 'that dispropotti?.." against Scotland which had been represente‘b y • Sir JA.S. Sr. CLAIR -ERSKINE and Nir. CO.". T• explained. Lord A. II 111 I LtON said, he had been Called upon by his Constituents to endeavour to oht.lie L h . o repeal of the Duty of last year w hich they c oo ::: dared as highly injurious to ;heir , interesta , then went over nearly the same grounds of • i m vlea e nt n iso t ipn a n s os S rt i nh r aa j rt a iue s ynw E s itiK INK, and expressed dune, • CHANCELL L'iIIod O n replied A t o . Itill:Ntatrigziuolirt7:l4Raelse: cf hd°ll:s,sSgcai°:tvdn4"itaisAnt. ERs r vii 'l(hat. he ;11111c'n;:ill:oi t o h j. a .N t c t , l r i f e o re lk. . w . a t s i ' e as owl IlitteY Pr ° "" th -•. I: r p t o s S . osilifflSimtytola:,adri':sgoitrihterinep:;.CasaTtellny'litnteine ttubc;)'''''uzin'ttY ite :,amp the proposed inquiry this -Fessien, was time onlyhe 117egoig,oesde,(.1itt'asnstalsc;Glet.ona:rie:Cil, enlrlde;:att Mr. WM. DUNDAS wished that 'this /SC I r. s sion had been sparekl, particularly as it WAs t" . stood;that there ..ix•as.. 16 be a 'Committee o f tn. be quirt'ix t a t p e p r o i t n o tet v% l . n a e it x ti t ti as e ta t .i.c l l i f o m u ti g i:d l ; l ,e t t .gree dissatisfadion, at the additional duty i . tr: Il p ivpio r t e n : e s .dk i 0; 1 ; 1 twa:Staletisb:tslir:une'reiwb7siutree lic :vitlestriaen:::::::eua first ll cons , derition of the subjett, that opinion was • alter 11 barleyV re gard int'totohe great qaantitY of E n, w ., • S year, is f the in hiss to be attribute d ed ' to i' t is he t s op season, and by no means to the duty which Wasoi posed. He said there was not that inferiority Barley of Scotia,-,l that had been represeoted , he knew that very lately some Barley of Ea" thian was sold at 17s. 61. a boll, while the i NotP i. l e Batley was 'selling at 19;. 6.1.' Ujion the- w) l °l c ' thought it would be better to Watt until the Wilmi Sublet had been investigated by a CoMmitt e ' 3 ,i, nett to discuis it now, when "they hadno etir° tenon a e r t t Ao u l p gA i u t S t i i ‘e th e ir . t ri lt E l lt : f t, i tk t ic rlg ug lm l eO t ntalfr:Leri':laisd,noitAcct t r i t c ;llicv 1"; the Union - upon the subjekl, yet that it " c ll° understotxl that there was to be a distinetion h'' tween England rind Scotland, in the du u; "" Malt.l.. i-aa very soon after the Union, Il l ; ' duty had been fixed in Scotland at on e hell ci what it. Was in England, and that' clispropt ii)" had continued so long, that thy began io c onsidl f it as a mager of right that it should continue.; he 'l'; i not say that this was his opinion. but l w thoug.ll` the Legislature ought to have.gone into an ingioilt upon the subjeft before they laid an equal (MY 1 ; 15 , Sessions. It certainitwas necessary that an in c l' r ::; I should be instituted, to set the minds of reoPle le rest upon this subjen, because it n ever could b . settled by discussions in that House, on which he t '` 1 tlemen generally spoke from the statements wil!,. t I composed d ee were furnished to them. lie would with P'-'"" the United Parliament lud aeled not only entirely lea vethe' of in English ves ig l t i(Gmentotlet'ille(n,:vilinehei (A:Luc:l.!' tice but with liberality towards ScotlAnd. C-11"irirl' I After. some further conversa tion the ic i put the, question with respen to filling up tlw b l3Il , Inc the amount of the duty with :Ai. wo uld 't Air. PLUMMER said, th at this addition .„, M make the whole d u t y on alt 3.p. Bd. per t g ag l . i 1. 1 ' 14 which was a greater duty; he conceived, ad Landed Interest could bear, he thetefore Inu'' c Amendment to substitute IN. A conversation of s.ome leq,th "'l' d * - ,a of The SECRETARY 41 WAR spoke in Lori t ),;.> t . ....;.. Amendment, Though he said kke could "' `t