The Sun. — London, England, 1803-04-30 00:00:00

'.~~ F 4. F I thorl,te. before a tint began, hnd that it he Aid it Kith judgment, it was the most valuable service he could render to his Country, inasmuch as, the pre vention.of crimes was much more desirable than pu. nishinent. How many riots, had happended et Not. tiegham, and would continue to happen, if this Bill leas thrown out ; Magistrates had touch to 'do in.a quiet way, as well as acting on occasions of actual riot. They had no small tliscretion to exercise' on the subject •of licensing Ale-houses. Did We not hear .almost from every Charge. delivered by .a I,earned Judge to the Grand Jury at an Assizes, something on these topics ? To provide' against these evils was one of the ohjeas •of the Bill '; he knew that these tumults could not grow up unless there were nests where they were nurtured. He knew there was no turbulence or confusion, of which the plot was, not laid in some ale-house ; and as to tvhat the Hon. Gentleman observed on the Posse Comitatus, he felt no.difference, such as the Hon. Gentleman hinted at, likely to happen : but ,he knew that force'would never he drawn out unless there was an:occasion for it, and then he should re,luice to see the efforts of the honest Yeomanry of the kingdom opposed to a Jacobin Mob a , These were the provisions which, in his opiniod; would tender the Bill efficacious, and without which it would he inadequate to the purpose • for which it was intended... Considering this Bill on the point of Law it was unobjeCtionable--considering it upon policy it was expedient—considering it.in point of probable effect, he had strong hopes it would be efficacious. In a word, he believed that if the House adopted this Bill, they would adopt the best means that had yet been offered to remedy a' consi, derable evil. • That if this Bill'was rejefted by the House, new blood and ''a vital principle would be transfused into the dead carcase of Anarchy in this place, and it would again resuscitate ; but if the Bill was agreed to, the Magistrates would become what they ought to be, a potation to the good and a terro r to' the wicked. Ws% MOORE (of Coventry),. said, that if he had been on thet.Committee; hi should not have confineditis labours to what the Committee had con fined their Report to, upon the Nottingham Eleaion. He thotight the Magistrates had neglected their duty in this fait . .. He'yead the Report of the Committee , with accuracy anti attention, and he thought, that from recent experience, he was competent to form ti tolerable'. judgMent how far this . measure was likely to answer the pUrpose for which it was in tended. • He had witnessed some riotous pro.: feedings at Coventry, and other populous places, and he examined the desctiption of the riot at Notting_ ham, in order to see whether it resembled what he had witnessed at other places,. He saw, however, that in the business of Nottingham, there was much - to lament, and much to coma ; but he saw nothing , in the Repots upon this subjett, which the Magi- strates,at present in the town of Nottingham, were not competent to correct ; and this, he thought, was fully made out by one Witness, who was three days under examination; ,who had proved that tranquil lity might be restored at Nottingham, and who had indeed restored it. He thought that every ne. tessary provision should be m , de to prevent the re. currence of the evil in this case, without over. turning the Constitution of the Borough—and that was by' rousing she Magistrates of the Town from their 'dormancy. He had no doubt that the Mayor and other Officers had negletted their 'duty upon this ,occasion, and that• they were highly criminal ; • there was an' evil existing, hut he did not think this proposed At of Parliament was calculated to remedy that evil, nor did he approve of any of the remedies which had been proposed ; there was nothing really wanting, but to awaken the Magistrates out of their dormancy, and that was to . be effetied by making theM feel the.severities of the Law, for criminally neglecting their duty, In support of this he referred to the instance given by the lionontailile and learned Gentleinan, who had ust preceded hi m , of: the threat 'of the Leareed Judge having such tin effea." lie observed, that what was done with Simpson at the Bar of the House might be a lesson proper to - be' taught to some others, and concluded with obierving, that he saw nothin g in the case of Nottingham any more than any other plaCe where , there had been riots, which Cou ld not be 'properly remedied by a due admini strating of . the Law as it now stands, anti that could be accomplished by rousing _the Magistrates to the performance. of their duty, the which if they neglected, they might be reminded of by the whole. some penalties of the Law. Mr. FRANKLAND said, that to incumber the present measure with a previous investigation of guilt, would necessarily delay the issuing of the 'Writ, whilst on the contrary, the passing of the Bill would enable the Town of Nottingham to return a Representative lo Parliameut.. The concession which had been made by the opposers of - the present in Suggesting - an• amendment, necessarily de, stroyed their arguments against its principle. With respell to the amendment suggested, it was sums.; ing a mode of controlling Riots, by first permitting them to exist, and .that a Justice of the Peace • should first see the.peace broken before he ads. Mr. GREY said, he had not had titne,to read the 'whole of the Report, but he had a right to com plain that those who brought 'in the Bill, had not brought forward in its support, any specific parts of the evid ence contained in that Report. The 'Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr, Boma) had set out with observing, that - he did not mean to impute guilt 10 the Magi strates , o f N ott i ngham, and had coedit& ell by tnaking a very heavy charge against them of Cri minal neglect o f duty, and secretly encouraging a Jacobin Meta. 'He could not'agree that extending a Magistracy not, in many instances, destroy ing it. "The present Mil was a Bill,of Disfranchise ment, anti a severe 'Bill of paini and penalties_ He did not think that aey of the cases adduced by the„ Honourable and Learned Gentleman, applied to that now ueder, consideration.-: 'The Hon. and Learned Gentleman had said, that the greater the evil the • inure extensive ()tight tO be the measure which was proposed to remedy that evil he asked the Hon. Gentleman to state those points of evidencewhich' made out his case. If the Magisti'ates were crimi punish them, Something had (ien said Omit lenity : in this case,' the Magistrates of Nalting, ham were not convicted Criminate praying for tnercy, but persons calling out for dial. The for. LONDON, APRIL 3c, ik.D3. TH i s morning a Messenger arrived at Lord I - 1.-kwx ES su kV% Office. He brought Dispatches from rienna, and also from Paris, taut we' believe nothing decisive has yet been received. The hopes of a con tinuance of Peace, however, seem to lessen every day, but tiwse who venture to state positively their ex pettation either of Peace or War, rest their opiniqn upon very slight grOunds. 'On the one band, Jo. SIPH BONAPAktE, the Peace-maker-at AN - riths, is supposed to be p , icifically inclined, and it is certain that no person has more weight with the Film , Coitsu L. He has always prided himself in having negotiated the Peace of illaieas,.'and we are satis. tied, as far as depelided' upon him, he would yield even - considerable 'points, rather than the Treaty shoeld be disturbed. CAMBAC E RES and LE BRUN are .also both averse to War, and the former has cer tainty some influence on the opinions of the Ft ItVt Corisut,.' These are the grounds on which some people state ponfide.ritly an opinion that:the' Treaty will end in Peace, or at least in the sliew of Peace for the present. Ott the other hand perhaps more rests an , the temper Of the Ft R.VT CONSUL'. t h an on , any other point whatever. If he has said, that the English shall evacuate Malta, he will not easily be induced to• recall his words, or to a 1 upon any other idea than that, of forcing them to relinquish that Possession. Whatever BONAPARTE may have said, hov, , ever,• it cannot be wise or politic in him to engage Europe in another twelve years War tor the possession of Matta—that which makes it an objet for' him, viz. his possessing every thing else of consequence to him is the Mediterranean, makes the possession of it also a great objet to us. Nothing, can be more ridiculoui than the idea of the Pyp E naming the Grand Master of-the Order of St. John of jerusalem, : for , the purpose of fulfilling the Treaty, and ?wit/ the 'shin ,in a state of b.' tlektnelence. When BONA.PMUTE calls upon Mini. stets to restore this Island according to Treaty, it is surely fair in them to insist, in"return, that he Shall manifest the same pacific .disposition to this country, which-he showed on the Signature of that . .'Treaty—that he should obtain the guarantee of thOsi Poweri who were to protefi Indepen, ,„tlence,that he• should restore the Longues which have been suppressed---and that he should give back `'the, Maid of Elba to its former Possessors. To call upon Ministers. to fulfill' the Letter of the Treaty of Amiens,. formed, wilh 'resped to Malta, under Circtimstauces totally different from those whiehnow exist, ',is . to call upon them to' adhere-to the words of the 'Treaty, without any regard to the fair construftion and meaning of the transaelion.. This is the principal matter in dispute between . this Country 'and France, and though we do not affrd to ithaq , ih *hat dil • 0611)!; managed the Stigiitiationi i n • l s~3iice+ :i.e . ! think evci Lithah will at h nii theiri to be right f , t) 1..: subject co which we ate speAing:. repeat *hat We haVe 'before Saitftipon this question : any thing is bitter than the state of sus pence in which We have lately been !eft; and War is better than a paichett.up Accommod3tion. The Peciple cannot submit any langei to be satisfied' vvitli the mere semblance of tranquillity, and unless they cah have substantial Peace, they wntild Orefer War) with all its accompanying horiors..;a stoc k sfellt h is morning three quarters. per Cent. At twelve the Consols were, for Money, at 63i. Yesterday the public opinion was as much divided as ever upon the question of Peace or War, though the unavoidable. necessity of the latter alternative seemed to gain gropnd in the general belief, the Funds having experienced a depression Of consider ably more than one per cei►t.—This opihtoti seems to us the best justified by farts, according to.all the information which we received both froM‘France and Holland. In the former Country, Troops are marching, in all directions to •the S:il Coast, and according to adviccs by the last Packers from the French Ports, the utmost aaivity prevails all along the Coast in mounting guns, and making every warlike preparation. • From Ho/laud the accounts are equally of a %Var. like complexion. Private Letters from iirkeetrhas, of the date of the z7th inst. state, that an Aid-de - - Camp of General VICTOR had arrived there with authority to demand . that the Isle of Gorse, and the Works of Helvoet should be delivered up to the French Troops, and that forty pieces of Artillery should be immediately mounted on. the walls and works of these posts. The Municipality were re quested to co-operate with the French Adjutant in expediting these objetls; but if they•did not chuse to co-operate voluntarily, the French were to proceed by force of arms. The Dutch made no resistance, bat the Municipality remonstrated, stating,, that they could not a4l without the authority of their Govern. meat. The Mayor immediately repaired to the Hague for orders. The condud of the Municipality was apprdved of, but all idea of resistance to.the imperious mandate of the 'French was abandoned, and it was expected that an order would be received on the zBth to withdraw the Dutch Trooo.Cotirely from //e/vocrthijs and Goree ; which Island had been already °m i lled by 350 French Soldiers. They had likewise taken possession of the Bo \V received this morning Paris Popo': to the 2 8 t h in s t. but they bring no Intelligence that Call throw any light on the Question of Peace or War. t e u eta f r om Naptes, of the; date of the 9 tl) April, state that an Englidi Vessel had • arrived there, in consequence cf which a Council _was immediately held, and the French Minister dis. patched a Courier to Paris. It als6 adds, that a report was in circulation, of A Treaty having been concluded, between France and Nap/es, by whic!. the latter consents to admit 20,000 French Troops into his runs in case of War ; And that another Treaty is negotiating 'with England respeaing • Sicily. These Pdpers are wholly silent on the reported rupture between Russia and Sweden, thotigh they contain articles from•Petersburgh of the ,z9th ult, and from Stockholm of the 4th. instant. Baron de la ROCHeLICHTENSTEIN had been dispatched from the latter,Capital on, a mission ro the EMPEROR ALEXANDER, from which we are led to suppose that the misunderstanding which : has arisen may liy this time be adjusted. .The Ftench Funds on the 26th wer: 53. Yesterday THEIR MAJESTIES, the PRINCEsNES AUGUTA, F.LIZABUTH, MARY, SOPHIA, AISIV and the DUKE of CHMIIERLAND, attended by the Earls of CHENTER I , IF L.I) Miti HARCOURT, arid Lady HARRINCTON, honoured the Royal Academy with their presence, and were graciously pleased to ex. press the highest SatisfaCtion at the several perform. ances in the Arts, exhibited this year., The .Royal' Party left Somerset House about a quarter past twelve, and were saluted wi t h huzzas by the populaCc, assembled on the occasioo. In a short time after their arrival at Buckingham His MAJESTY set olf.in his travelling carriage for Windsor. HER MAJESTY and, the *PRINCESSES followed in about a quarter of an hour atter... • Yesterday afternoon Mr. PITT passed through Canterbury, on his way to Walmer Castle. The Hon. JOHN ELLIOT, on Thursday E vening, gave a grand Rout at his house in . Downing street, Westminster, which was attended by a most splendid and numerous circle of Nobility and Gentry, who begin assembling at an .eaily hoUri and did not all depart till very law. Considerable difficulties oc. cured from the great number of oarriiges, 'and • the confined nature oldie place. The Knights of the Bath have subscribed 2501. each, for the Grand BAH and Fiqd Which*they pfo_ pose giving at Ranelagh, on the zi of June. - There are twenty.two to he Installed, so that the Sum subscribed is up war di o f Five Thousand. Pounds-. - Major MACMAHON arrived two or three ..days ago from Paris, and had an audience on 'Thursday. of His Royal Highncsi the Dlnta of Yotm. Nif k'.. t L IV A.:07 1; POR TS/11 . 0.Urif ; Ai iii i; i 9: riR even this day; His Majelqt'S ship !stir from title Eastward; with pteAsed melt; Antli. 24: Tiffs Diann Packets Cain: Sitl:VAßi o lfnil the Diana, Capt.: OS/30RNi arrived last night trout Cu shaven each with a Haniburgh. and Bri-men MaiL Five Casks cif' foreign Silver - Coin was • potted in the former Packet: tiler tiots Wiikh hut iattefi . place at NOttinghatri, nat appear to enter regularly into the consideration of the ' , Comniittee. From the statement of the Flonottrahle and Learned Gentleman, it Must be inferred, that the ..Magithates were either guilty of wilful neglect, 'or that , they did not posses sufficient powers ; if the former, they ought to be punished ; if the latter, it did not appear to him that the giving a .concurrent jurisditlion to the Magis. trates of the County would be a sufficient remedy. It might be very possible, and if the Bill went into a Committee, he should propose it as an amendment, •to require ten. Housekeepers, in case of a Riot, to sign a requisition to the neighbouring . Magistrates, in which case the latter might bring' in -the Peru Com;tatur. This would confine the Bill to the fart complained of. Mr. BOND and Mr. GREY severally explained. Mr. ROSE said, if he had any objettion -to the Bill it was that it did not go far enough. No speech had . ever satisfied him.mdre upon any subject than that of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman with respett to the present Bill. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Garr) had urged that the Committee had no tight to go into the consideration of the former riots which had taken place at Nottingham ; but the faCt was. that they were brought forward by the Magi strates of NottinghaM themselves, in order to prove that riots at an Eleetion in..4hat town were nothing new. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Fox) had taken credit to the people 'of Nottingham, because the story respeeling the Goddess -of -Reason, , did not prove 'to be exattly true : bUt, proceedings certainly did take place, which were not very creditable.— There clearly appeared either gross neglett on the part of the Magistrates of Nottingham, or the greatest insufficiency of povver. Mr. Fox explained. Sir' (YM. GEARY said, he would support .the Bill, if amended asbad been suggested. The Gallery was cleared for a division, but the House did not divide, and the Bill was ordered to be 'committed on Monday. Adjourned till Monday. MM LS. DUE. ARR IVLII. French ' o PRICE OF STOCKS, ?His DAY AT TWXLVL O'CLOCK. Consols - .646 a 63i THE SU % N. SOLI/14 QUID DICIER& ►ALSUM AUDIAT ? P.JRIS; Ititur. 27: CHs Corvettes l'Etorthante anti la hai'e arrivetl%t Bret from Guadaloupe i which place they left on the llth Of March: MILAk, APRIL from N Write ritiet, tinder date of the 9th of April, that the arrival' of .an English 'Vessel had occasioned the holding of a Council of States at the breaking up of which flu Frentli'Mittister expedited a Courier to Paris in all haste: The Courier set out about twelve hours after the . English Vessel had entered the Port. This event has not failed to give birth to several contradictory reports, for instance, of u Convention 'concltided with France for receiving 20,000 men iii their Ports in case of War, and of another set on foot with England relative to Sicily: . BRUSSELS, APRIL .received herr from different points of the Coasts of Flanders, agree in stating. th at a Di v i s i on o f E ng li s h Shi ps of War of different rates arecruizing at the -mouth of ;its' ` Scheldt, anii that a Cutter advanced within can:. non shot of the Road of Flushing. The French Garr,ison of that place, about 3000 strong, arc entirely in barracks. •A detachment of Anil. lery is about to embark at Bresienr, for the Isle of Walcheren. It is said that Barracks will lie 'con. strutted on the Downs between astenctond Nien. port, for the cantonment of a •Corps of Infantry but this measure will only probably be' carried into execution in' case of -an aftual rupture.- General Bat:Li/sub continties his general inspettion of the Coait of ci.devant Flanders. • The preparations for the reception of the rirst Consul have redoubled their activity since the re. turn of the Prefed to Brussels. The First Consul is still expcled on the loth or 14. th of May. VIENNA, APRIL ,13.-- , Ttilo Couriers have PT. rived lately from Paris, with Dispatches for our Ministry, and for the French Ambassador. The report is every day snore confirmed, that in case of a War betvvecn 4ngland and France, our Court will observe the most stria neutrality. FLLltill INC, APRIL 17. —Not wic hstandirt, the great number Troops 'which cr:mpose the Garrisois of thii place, the 'greatest tranquillity prevails.— General MONtIT, who commands here, has not yet rxercised all the powers which are vested in him by the Laws of Frarxe, as Commandant in a City in a state of Siege. Yesterday afternoon a Second liainburgh Mail arrived. It brought nothing furthor relative to the Misunderstanding between ibirria anti Sque,leai which we suppose cvtll . be . .'ccommodated., . . • A number • of F rench Troops were, expeaca at Nimegue4 on Sunday or Monday last, ft): which quarters had already been ptovided. Aese Troops arc, it is said in Letters from the Ilagro, to form a Camp in 'the neighbourhood of that City, and in ease of Hostiliiies Hie destined for Hanover. Mr:. HENRY FA NE reported yesterday in the House of . Commons, from the Dublin Univetsiiy. Eledion Conmittee,, that the Hon. G. KNox was, duly eleded, and that the Petitton pi Mr. PLuNkErr was not frivolous or, vexations, The Lotti Lieutenant and the Gentlemen of Cairh.; nets, have not only publicly refuted the attael: made on Sir JOHN gl NC LAI u , on a, charge of depopulating his Estates in the Highlands, but have also aeknow. !edged the obligations they are under to him, for introducing a number of valuable improvements into' that remote , pan of the Kingdom. There cannot be a mere honourable testimonial, and it is the moz. flattering to the worthy Baronet, as it is seldom that any person is a Prophet in his own Country. On the 13th' inst. GARNERIN, accompanied by one M. GA!ITNEIt t • Merchant of Berlin, . made an aerial excursion wi t h hi s B a ll oon . H e ascen d e d at half an he ur after six, and about half 'after seiten desceitdcti at Mittinwaidv, in the Saxon Territo. ries. Yesterday, at half past eleven o'clock, the Lot:. tery Wheels arrived at Somerset Howe, the drawing having finished the day before,, drawn or f u Lit sledges, and wer e lodged i n the apartinen t wh ure they are usually kept. • Tild west end of the Bank is to be pulled down, and the building extended more towards the 01d Jewry. The !Rinses in Princes-street and in Lot 11:. bury, to near the Old. Jewry, are pulling down , for this purpose, 'CifAXLES JAMES Alit s Esq. Member of the . House of Representatives of South Carolina, was murdered on the 6th of March. His body was found on the Bth, on the road leading from Charles. town to Georgetown. On the rst of April, at Dresden, Mrs. CAMP. BELL ) the Lady of ALex. CAMPBELL, ftSq. of GatCOrlih House, in the Isle of Wight, - and Lite Lieut. Col. of Majesty's 86th Regiment of Foot, was safely delivered of a Daughter. • Died, on Thursday morning, at her house in Brunswick.square, the Wife of WI Lt. t WALKER, Ecq. whose liberality of sentiment, propriety of conduft, and affection of heart, make her loss deeply felt by all who knew her. To witness the representation of the new Grand Serious.liallet, called Lk visa of Lombardy, or Ilia Secret Nuptials, at the Royal Circus, is a most ex, ccltent treat ; t it last night drew a v e r y s pl en did audience ; Mrs. Parker, as the Heroine, lu:titivated it in the most fa icinating style. It was raptor I ;applau d ed, pplatkci, and wilt be again repeated on Mon. day , next for the seventh ,time. 4 i