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SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM TIIE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. GLOBE.—We perceive that M r . Ch r i st i e h as given not'c • of a motion to insert a clause in the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill, for admitting graduates of all the English - Universities to practice in the Ecclesiastical Courts. We hope the House of Commons will agree to this reason able proposition. It would do something towards lessen irg the various mischiefs which the Bill proposes to inflict on the public, among them, that of allowing the country practitioner to unite in his single person the combined characters of proctor and attorney, and to pocket the costs of the double profession. It has been found in practice, that a business in common law and conveyancing, with occasionally a little bankruptcy, is as much as a country practitioner—deprived as he is of the opportunity of immediate reference to coun sel—can conveniently manage. Although fond of ap pending " solicitor " to his name, it is very unusual, except in the large towns, to practise in that branch of the law. If, then, a competent knowledge of the practice and procedure of the Ccurt of Chancery is found incompatible with a due attention to the tech nicalities of bankruptcy and common law, we leave it to our readers to imagine what a medley of confusion will arise from this incorporation of ecclesiastical " quips, quaintnesses, hieroglyphics, and enigmas." It will be something to alleviate the mischief by a mixture of !gentlemen who have received a liberal education. Another effect will be, that Dissenters who, on ac count of objections which hare force with them, may hereafter find themselves involved in a church-rate suit, may have their interests represented, if they choose it, by counsel who have graduated at the London Uni versity, and are themselves Dissenters. We do not consider this of particular importance so far as any Individual contest may be alone concerned. We have ho doubt that the case of a Dissenter is as sedulously and efficiently advocated by a counsel of the most High Church principles as it would be by One of his own views. But it does nut end here. It is but reasonable, it is indeed important to the general well-being and to the interests of the Establishment itself, that among the gentlemen who practise in its Courts, should be found a not inconsiderable section whose personal feelings lead them to look with jealousy on any procedure which bears hard on the Dissenters. The Church gains no thing by making martyrs. John Thorogood's range of neat cottages at Chelmsford, built with the proceeds of a subscription raised by his sympathisers, and, quaintly enough, called after the churchwardens who imprisoned him, settles this point. The severity of his punishment has not more deeply impressed the good people of Chelmsford, or the generality of the commu • ratty, in favour of the Establishment. We may. there fore, take it for granted that the Church will maintain its ground with more ease to itself, and advantage to the public, by cultivating peace with the Dissenters, and by divesting collision, where collision is unavoidable, so far as possible, of its present irritating character. Now we all know the influence of the bar upon the adminis tration of the law, and even upon legislation. While the administration of ecclesiastical law is entrusted to a body, the entire of whom are, if not hostile, at least alien to the feelings of Dissenters, nothing can be more certain than that, as against them, much un necessary hardship and irritation is unavoidable. When A Dissenter has pleaded his own cause, he has frequently damaged it by a woful ignorance of ecclesiastical practice. Where he has confided it to counsel, however eminent, the strictly legal points of the case have alone been brought before the Court. When the judge has pronounced sentence it decides against a course of conduct which the very counsel who defended it was unable to appreciate or even understand, and with which, therefore, he could not sympathise. Few as may he the parties whom defeat leaves satis fied with the justice of other courts, it is morally im possible that, as things are at present consitituted, a Dissenter should ever be satisfied with the justice of the courts ecclesiastical. He looks now to an adverse de cision, and his consequent imprisonment, as the last links in the chain of oppression. His enemies, he thinks, have then done their worst ; and he naturally resolves that when that worst is ended, he will do his. Upon the unhappy effect, as to both parties, we will not com ment. We trust the House of Commons will consent to the introduction of Mr. Christie's clause into the Bill. We cannot but believe that the hardships of the existing law, so far as regards Dissenters, would be mitigated by it. and we hope ultimately reformed altogether, by the admission of Dissenters into the ecclesiastical courts. It might produce a series of improvements, like many of the Chancery orders of the last sixteen years. Pro ranlged like them, after being subjected to the careful scrutiny of the leading members of the profession, the practice would receive many ameliorations, which no Act of Parliament can be expected to effect. Were the law thus made certain, rather than harsh, and prompt in decision rather than oppressively expensive, a different spirit would speedily be imparted to these contests. The effect would be similar in kind to that which the cha racter et' an eminent minister of the Establishment is known to have produced—who, for his fervent piety and a tolerance so ample that he is probably unconscious of its influence, has been repeatedly characterised as " the most dangerous enemy with whom Dissent has had to deal," STANDARD.—The intelligence brought by the Queen of the West, which left New York on the 21st ult., developer a little more fully the projected policy of Governor Tyler, in reference to the annexation of Texas. The President has made, upon the demand of the senate, a communication, from which it appears that, anticipating no difficulty at home to the final ratifica tion of the late treaty, he had prepared for a war with Mexico as the immediate consequence of the arrange ment, ordering a fleet to the Mexican Gulf, and an army to the frontier. This is the President's own account of the affair, but Mr. Tyler must be a very weak man if it is a true account. None but a very weak man could so much miscalculate the feelings of the Senate to say nothing of the interests of the whole re public, as to fancy that the treaty would not be ob structed; and, under that delusion, to present belligerent preparations, justifying the obstruction, and making his government ridiculous. A solution of the affair more respectful to Mr. Tyler's understanding, if net to his honesty, is the hypothesis that he sought to provoke a quarrel with Mexico by martial display, the effect of which would be to enforce the success of his darling scheme of annexation ; for though 'a war might not necessarily follow the final rati fication of the late treaty, it is very cer tain that all parties in the United States Would agree to a hurried ratification, as soon as they had heard of a single act of hostility on the part of the Mexicans. Be this, however, as it may, ono fact seems to bo clearly established by Mr. Tyler's Message, and that is, that whether before or after the annexation of Texas, a war with Mexico must accompany that arrangement ; and this war will be a very serious thing. It is true that there is Apparently no proportion between the respec tive powers of the two republics, but when • climate and a difficult country are on the side of the defenders, these will go a great way to compensate the preponderanle of numbers, and even of mititary q ua lit ies , vn th e other side. And then there is the slave population in the United States ; and everywhere a slave population is, and ought to be, the ally of the enemy of the slaveholders. The contest on the land side would there fore be by no means so inevitably favourable to the United States at first might appear, and though successful in the end, the United States might find that they had made but a sort of Algeria conquest—an earnest of future and more perilous • wars with more formidable opponents. On the side of maritime war, again, the United States appear to possess an itnmense superiority over Mexico, which may be more apparent than real ; the States themselves, we believe, it was who first set the example of wry liberally lending a national flag to privateers, and even borrowing the enemy's own ports to fit out these torments of commerce. It cannot be forgotten that the so-called American privateers by which our commerce suffered • most in the American revolutionary war, wore in fact . fitted out in British ports, and too often manned by :renegade British seamen. Now, the United States must expect something of the kind in a war with Mexico. The drab men of Pennsylvania, would not scruple a pro. fitable investment in the plunder of their felliw-citizens, any more than they would balk at a project fur cheating their kinsmen of England. A war even with Mexico would, in this way, annihilate the commerce of the United States ; while Mexico would all the while become . richer and stronger, both in resources and alliances. The journals of the United States seem to have a pretty just view of the necessary effect of this disgraceful scheme of Pre sident Tyler, to entrap the commonwealth into a ruinous war ; and some go so far as to call for his im peacktnent. As to the impeachment, it is a matter upon which we, as foreigners, have no right to oil r any opinion, further than to remark that the be ginning of a course of impeachments is unfortunately most dangerous in those systems of government where unfortunately impeachments arc most frequently neces sary—namely, in democracies. The case must be a strong one which authorises unsheathing the sword of justice against a magistrateanyw here, particularly where the ma gistrate's commission is the sole controlling influence; and yet in dvmocracies, for this very reason, that they are subject to no rivalships of royal, aristocratical, or other traditional moral influence, magistrates are most likely to p rovoke vindictive justice by abu se o f t h e i r position. rhe inference is, that democracy is a bad form of govern ment, that giies birth to dangerous crimes. which itself makes more dangeious to punish. These considerations however, apart, it is. satisfactory to see that the Presi dent's warlike and ambitious propensities are not popular - in the States. As a proof of the total disregard of the Emperor of Russia of the luxuries and splendour with which he was • surrounded, we may state that the Emperor always sl: pt on the ground, on a leather tick, stuffed with straw, as being more conducive to health. Ills Imperial Majesty adopted the same course on the occasion of his first visit to this country, in 1817. When the Emperor of Russia took leave of her Majesty on Sunday, at Buckingham Palace, the Queen, Prince Albert, the Prince of Wales, and the Royal Princesses, wero present in the Marble Hall. On the • departure of the Emperor, he graciously saluted . the Queen, and cordially shook hands with all the ladies - and officers of the household. The Emperor left the munificent sum of 20,000 ducats, to be distributed among the domestics. It tslunderstood that the Court of Directors have r e e-introduction of the system of corporal "uT i T t t ie we army of India.—Naval and Mill , w. 44 . 4 t 4sys T si o n 14 , - --- f - p r Er tl . 'the postmaster going to his box, 19.40; bia mist isluoitili se of takin g out the letters, he i i , rP° l t , tom-tit, with a nest and young `domfortably a snu g corner. The young . .brai ? 4 _te ti lt e h_th f e nesa,re still in the letter-box, the old gat Etw!Lt y.---S(nnerset gazette. old birds .11.,14g LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, ,Tune 10. THE QUEEN ON THE PROSECUTION OF MR. MICHAEL SCALES V. THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE SEWERS FOR THE TOWER HAMLETS. In this case, which had not concluded when we went to press, the COURT took time to consider its judgment. BAIL COURT, June 10. (Before ➢lr. Justice WIGHTMAN.) THR QUEEN V. HALL. Mr. CRAnNOCK in this case moved for two writs of habeas corpus. The COURT said that the proper course would be to apply in Chamber upon affidavit founded on the commitment, a copy of which the defendant was entitled to, but there was no legal objection to having the proceedings removed by cer tiorari, as well as to have the prisoner removed by habeas corpus. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, June 10. (Sittings in Banco.) GOSLING V. BEDDEII. The Court was occupied the whole day in hearing argu- ments upon the rule for a new trial in this case, which in volved only a question of accounts, and possessed nothing of general interest. COURT OF BANKRUPTCY, June 10. (Before Commissioner Sir C. F. WILLIAMS.) THE ROMFORD BANK.-IN RE THOMAS JOHNSON, THE ELDER, WILLIAM JOHNSON, AND CHARLES MANN, OF ROMFORD, IN ESSE X , BANKERS, AND CO. PARTNETtS, DEALERS AND CIIAPMEN. A fiat was issued against the above parties upon the Bth inst., at the instance of Emanuel Cooper, William Corry, Swynfen Jarvis, and Joseph Henry Warter, of No. 71, Lombard-street, bankers, and co-partners, on behalf of the " London and County Joint-stock Bank," and the adjudication took place this day. No day has yet been fixed for the choice of assignees, but Mr. Follett has been appointed official assignee. We are requested by the solicitor to the fiat, Mr. Wil kinson, to state that every opportunity will be afforded by the representatives of the London and County Bank of coming to the most satisfactory arrangements with the creditors of the Romford Bank. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. (YESTERDAY.) CLERKENWELL. Thomas Ryan, a blacksmith, residing at No. 11, Car rier-street, Bloomsbury, was charged with brutally as saulting Mary, his wife. It appeared from the evidence, that on Tuesday even ing last the prisoner came home, and upon some trifling and unfounded pretext he quarrelled with his wife and used bad language towards her. She remonstrated with him, upon which he knocked her down, and with his hob-nailed boot kicked 'the unfortunate woman on the head, producing a deep and serious wound over the right eye, the flesh about which was in so inflamed and con tused a state, that the organ was not visible. He then seized her by the hair and dragged her like a dog about the room, whilst she was bleeding from the wound. A policeman, 57 E, arrested the prisoner, who was rescued from his custody, and the constable himself thrown headlong from the street into a cellar. The prisoner thereby escaped, and was not arrested until Sunday night last. Mr. GREENWOOD sentenced the prisoner to pay a fine of 5/, or two months' imprisonment. William Neale was charged with violently assaulting John Osment, the landlord of the Red Lion public house, Cow-cross-street, Clerkenwell. , The prisoner was creating a riotin the Red Lion on the previous night, and the landlord attempted to expel him, when the prisoner kicked him violently in a delicate part of his person, whereby the complainant was seriously injured. A surgeon's certificate was produced, stating that the injury was of a very severe nature, and that Mr. Osment was unable to attend.—The prisoner was remanded. William Alexander John Chapman, a pawnbroker, re siding at 74, Turnmill-street, Clerkenwell, was charged with receiving sixty-five fur skins without giving a du plicate for the same, the property of Mr. Davis, a furrier. Anne Ballard, a poor woman, who had received the furs to sew them from Mr. Davis, proved that she pawned them, but received no duplicate.—The defendant was fined 31. Charles Bingham was charged with stealing 121, the property of a Mr. Josiah Reeve, a tailor, residing in Leather-lane. The robbery took place on Friday night last, when the prosecutor, coming home in a state of intoxication, went to bed in the same room in which the prisoner slept with the twelve sovereigns in his breeches-pocket. He awoke in a few hours after, and missed the money. The prisoner, it was proved, had been seen disposing of money for the possession of which he could not satisfactorily account.—The prisoner was remanded. Louisa Groves, aged six, and Sarah Bennett, aged eighteen, were chared with being concerned in the rob bery of Israel Boulanger, a Frenchman, of 71. 12s. On the night of the 14th of May, the prosecutor was induced to go into a house of ill fame, in Church-street, St. Giles, but had not been in the room more than a few minutes, when the prisoners, another young woman named Knox, and a fellow named Johnson, came into the room. Johnson bade him deliver up his money. The prosecutor did not understand English, but, sus pecting their purpose, buttoned up his coat. Bennett and Johnson then attacked him in a ferocious manner, and the light was extinguished. Bennett fetched a knife, which Johnson seizing, attempted to cut the prosecutor's throat. He put up his hand, to push the knife from his throat, and received a gash in the wrist. Johnson succeeded in cutting through the neckcloth, but the knife did not enter the throat. Knox and Bennett then emptied his pockets of their contents. Bennett, in the struggle, placed her hand on Boulanger's mouth, to prevent his cries for assistance from being heard. Police-constable Baker, 108 E, en tered the house just after the robbery had been perpe trated, and found the prosecutor bleeding profusely from the wound on the wrist. All the prisoners then escaped, owing to the prosecutor having been unable to commu nicate the facts in English to Baker ; they have, how ever, been apprehended since then, Johnson on a dif• ferent charge.—The prisoners were remanded. Charles Mathews was charged with having been drunk, and with deserting his wife and five children, whereby they became chargeable to Clerkenwell parish. It appeared from the evidence of Aldberry, clerk to the Guardians ; that five months ago, the prisoner's wife applied for relief to the parish, alleging that her husband had abandoned her, and that herself and children were utterly destitute. They were received into the work. house, where they remained ten days and were dis charged. From the period of their discharge to the present time, the family had received parochial relief to the amount of 4s. 10d. weekly ; each time the wife appledfor it she alleged that she did not know where her husband was. It appeared, however, from the statement of the prisoner that he had been living with his family all the time, and had concealed himself whenever the relieving officer came to the house. On Saturday even ing last, being drunk, he went to the workhouse and was given into custody. The prisoner admitted that he had been at home. His wife practised the fraud at his request, in order that he might not be separated from his family in the work house. He hoped that whatever punishment should be inflicted would be visited on him, as he was the cause of the misrepresentation. Aldberry, however, said he would prosecute in this case, as this description of fraud had been of late very frequent in Clerkenwell parish. The husband had been at work. The woman was accordingly given into custody, and the husband discharged. The husband again entreated that he might be punished ; he was guilty, and he made his wife apply for relief to save their children from starving. Aldberry added that each time the woman applied for relief she told the same story about the absence of her husband. The husband, who wept loudly, entreated of the Ma gistrate not to send his wife to prison. His children were now in a state of starvation. Mr. GREENWOOD ordered the woman to be remanded, and the children to be taken care of by the parochial authorities. WORSHIP-STREET. Yesterday Mr. John Bayley, residing in Brunswick terrace, Hackney-road, and holding a situation under Government, was charged before Mr. Broughton, with indecently assaulting his nursemaid, Sarah Amelia Barber, a girl thirteen years of age. The complainant, an artless-looking child, and short for her age, stated, that she had been seven weeks in the service of the defendant, who was a married man, with a wife and three children, as nursemaid, and that on Saturday evening, about six o'clock, her mistress went out in company with her sister, leaving her master and herself at home. Witness was rocking the infant to sleep in its cot in the drawing-room, where the prisoner was sitting on the sofa, and, as the child was very frac tious, she asked the prisoner's permission to go down stairs for her needlework. The prisoner assented, and she was about doing so, when he got up, and, kneeling down before her, took hold of her hand, and asked her to let him kiss her. This she allowed the prisoner to do, and he then pressed her to sit with him on the sofa. She refused, and the prisoner pulled her down beside him, and after retaining her there for some time, made a solicitation of a very indecent description, which she indignantly repelled, and got away from him. The in fant having now gone to sleep, the prisoner got up, un dressed the other two children, four and six years of age, himself, and put them to bed ; and the witness having gone down into the kitchen to look after the children's boots and shoes, was followed there by the prisoner, who, drawing a chair to the fire-place, asked her to sit near him ; this she refused, and went up stairs for some of the children's clothing, followed by the prisoner, who pur sued heetrion, into the kitchen again ; here, after an indeli cate action, he forcibly pulled her on to his knee, which she resented, and after a violent struggle succeeded in escaping, when she attempted to leave the house, but was stopped by the prisoner, who promised her a handsome present if she would engage not to mention the transac tion to her mistress. She ultimately got out of the house, and meeting her mother, who was making pur chases in Shorcditeh, acquainted her with the prisoner's conduct towards her. The witness was severely cross-examined by Mr. Ware, who attended for the defence, but without in th e least shaking her testimony. Henry Barber, the prosecutries father, stated, that when he met the first witness she was in a state of great excitement. On being made acquainted with the facts, he immediately went to the house of the prisoner, and accused him of the offence. The prisoner at once ad mitted the justice of the accusation. invited the witness in, and promised that if this transaction were overlooked, he would take care that nothing of the kind again occurred. The witness, however, indignantly left the house, and meeting a policeman shortly afterwards, re lated the facts to him, and gave the prisoner in charge. Policeman 340 N deposed to taking the prisoner into custody. When he told him the charge against him,.he rnE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 11, 1844. did not deny it, but expressed his willingness to accom pany him to the station-house. Mr. Ware said, that the defence he had to make was a total denial of the charge. He need not point out to the magistrate bow easily accusations of this descrip tion could be preferred, and how extremely difficult it was to rebut them, and, under all the circumstances, he trusted the magistrate would not consider that sufficient evidence had been adduced to establish the charge. The prisoner was a highly respectable man, very much regarded by all who knew him, and he wholly denied that such a transaction had taken place. Mr. BROUGHTON said, that the prosecutrix had such an appearance of artless simplicity, and had given her evidence in such a straightforward manner, that he could not see any rcason to doubt her story, which, moreover, was partly confirmed by two other witnesses. He should, therefore, send the prisoner for trial at the sessions, on the charge of assaulting with intent, &c. ; but as the depositions could not then be taken, he must be brought up again next week for that purpose, and in the mean time he would accept bail for his future appearance, him self in 1001., and two responsible parties in 501. each. The bail was shortly after found, and the prisoner who was much affected at his situation, was then liberated. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, June _lO. Their Lordships assembled at Five o'Clock. Messengers from the Commons brought up several Bills. The Earl of GLENGALL moved for a return of the number of children under fourteen years of age in the workhouses in Ireland.—Ordered. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE gave notice that on Monday he should call the attention of the House to the subject of the Irish poor-law. Several petitions were presented against the union of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. The Marquis of NORMANBY gave notice that, to morrow, he should ask whether the report as to the sanatory condition of the poor would soon be before the House; and, also, whether it would contain any recom mendation or suggestion for the remedy of the evils which were now complained of with respect to the sana tory condition of the poor. NIGHT POACHING BILL. On the motion that this Bill do pass, The Earl of RADNOR said he should continue not content to the passing of this Bill, as he believed it to be unnecessary. Earl FITZHARDINGE supported the Bill. He denied that poachers were driven to the commission of the offence of poaching by distress. The 13111 was then passed. The Copyhold and Customary Tenures Act Amend ment Bill was read a second time. HOLYHEAD RAILWAY WAY. illustrious Prince all the sacrifices he could make to attain so desirable an object. IRISH REGISTRATION. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that as the report respecting the harbour of Holyhead was not yet before the House, he would postpone his motion for a Committee on the Chester and Holyhead Railway Bill till the end of the week. Lord MONTEAGLE thought it was a great hard ship upon the promoters of this Bill to bo kept in sus pense by these repeated postponements. He thought the Bill ought to pass forthwith. The Earl of WICKLOW also thought the Bill ought to pass. The Earl of DALHOUSIE said it was the intention of the Government, in case a direct line of communica tion between Holyhead and London should be made, to recommend to Parliament to make a grant for the im provement of Holyhead harbour. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE thought the mat ter ought to be referred to a Committee before their Lordships adopted the Bill. He had no wish to prevent the Bill from passing ; but he thought it ought to be fully considered in its details before it passed. —(Hear, hear.) It was essentially necessary that provision should be made for the formation of a proper harbour at Holyhead, and also that there should be a good bridge beside by the Company across the Menai. Lord DALHOUSIE said that it was not unprece dented for Parliament to pass a Bill to enable a railway company to form an interrupted line, where there were arrangements in progress for filling up the gap. Lord RAYLEIGH said that it was the intention of the Company to apply to Parliament next year for a Bill to build a bridge across the Menai. Mr. VERNON SMITH said, that in consequence of the answer of 'the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secre tary of State for the Home Department to his Hon. Friend the Member for Finsbury, he thought it would be well to know at what time it was the intention to commence public business. After a few words from Sir J. GRAHAM, Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he thought the question propounded to the Ho - use by his Right Hon. Friend near him, was one of great importance. Ile (Mr. T. bun combe) had asked a question of the Right Hoa. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department, ten minutes before five o'clock, when he was referred to the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government.— (Sir R. Peel here entered the House.) He was glad to see the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) in his place.— (Laughter.) He had been asking the Secretary of State for the Home Department to fulfil a promise which was given last week, to state to the House the in tention of the Government with respect to the Irish Registration Bill. The Right Hon. Baronet had in formed him that his Right Hon. Friend would shortly arrive.—(Laughter.) In the meantime the Chancellor of the Exchequer rose and moved the consideration of the sugar duties.—(Laughter.) The Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) had undertaken the other day to give sufficient notice of the intention of the Government to bring on the Bill. Now he thought they had really a right to ask whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to proceed with the Bill during the present session, and if so, on what day? Sir R. PEEL said that when he stated he would give sufficient notice, he did not mean notice to persons in all parts of the three kingdoms.—(Hear.) Her Majesty's Government certainly wished to take the sense of the House on the second reading of the Irish Registration Bill. He was not prepared to state at present on what day the Bill would actually be brought forward, but he would do so to-morrow, and he would take care that proper notice should be given. THE IRISH ESTIMATES. Lord DALHOUSIE said that her Majesty's Govern ment had come to the determination that Holyhead was the preferable route of communication with Ireland, but he was not able to say what the expense of making Holyhead a good harbour might be. Lord BROUGHAM objected to any infringement upon the standing orders of that House, in respect to private Bills. He thought that it would be very credit able to the other House of Parliament, if that branch of the Legislature adopted those standing orders. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was most desirous of improving the means of communication between Great Britain and Ireland. But he agreed with his Noble and Learned Friend (Lord Brougham) that it would be highly inexpedient to give any instructions from that House to a Committee on a private Bill.—(Hear, hear.) The Duke of WELLINGTON understood that the Bill was for a railway to Holyhead, which muse be carried across the Menai Straits, and as that could not be effected by means of the present bridge, there must be a new bridge made for the purpose. No new instruc tion Ao the Committee were necessary.—(Hear, hear.) The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that, as the Bill stood at present there was no obligation upon the Company to build the bridge. They were only to carry the line to the Menai, and passengers and luggage were to be conveyed across the Strait in boats. After a few words from the Bishop of Bangor, Lord Monteagle, and the Marquis of Clanricarde, the Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL was understood to ask the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir Robert Peel) when the Irish Estimates would be brought on ? Sir R. PEEL said that he was not at present pre pared to name a day, but he could say that they would be brought on as early as possible. There were, how ever, but two estimates which had not been already agreed to. SUGAR DUTIES. Mr. M. GIBSON wished to take that opportunity of making one or two remarks On the subject of the sugar duties. He was one of those unfortunate persons—(A laugh)—who, in consequence of the manner in which the subject had been placed before the House by the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell), who proposed an equal duty of 345. per cwt. on all foreign sugar, were compelled to vote for that motion, without having an op portunity of going into the question whether our West Indian Colonies were at all entitled to the protection of distinctive duties.—(Hear, hear.) He begged now to ask whether that vote would prevent his Hon. Friend or himself from voting against those distinctive duties ? Mr. GLADSTONE was not prepared to advise the Hon. Gentleman as to the course which he ought to pursue.—(A laugh). Mr. GIBSON then gave notice that he would move as amendment for the abolition of the distinc tive duties upon the reading of the preamble of the Bill. ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS AND DISSENTERS' LAW OF LIBEL AMENDMENT BILL. This Bill went through Committee, and was reported. We did not ascertain the day appointed for the third reading. The House then adjourned. LLOYD'S SHIPPING. VESSELS SPOKEN Wuru.-Norwegian, Port Repnb licain to Hamburgh, 19th ult., lat. 45, ion. 29 ; Corsair, Bombay to Liverpool, 28th, lat. 48, lon. 16, by the Iris, arrived at Cork. Romulus, Liverpool to New York, lat. 50, lon. 12, by the John Jardine, arrived at Liverpool. Janet Izat, Hobart Town to Loudon, April 30, lat. 18 SS. lon. 26 W. ; Aurego, Hobart Town to London, 28th ; Winchester, Port Philip to London, 7th ult.. lat. 5 N., lon. 32 W. ; James, from Rio Grande, 14th, lat. 23, lon. 39; Maria. Guernsey to Havannah, and Lady Katharine, Barham, London to Jamaica, same day; Xenophon, Newcastle to Pictou, sth inst., lat. 50, lon. 15 ; Christina, from China, out 45 days, April 7, lat. 33 S., lon. 31 E., by the Duke of Argyle. Bristow, arrived at the Cape of hope ; Strabane, bound to Bombay, 11 th March, by the Bland, Callan, arrived at Cape of Good Hope. Rose, of London, Cuba, to the Clyde, 7th ult., lat. 33, lon. 71, by the Elizabeth, arrived at Bristol. Fairy Queen, Liverpool to Alexan dria, 15th ult, and John Esdale, bound to Quebec, 17th, off Cape St. Vincent, by the Astrea le Centaur, arrived in Creek. Albion, of Exeter, 12th ult., lat. 47, ion. 40; Haberdine, of Teignmouth, bound to Newfoundland,l6th, lat. 48, lon. 40; feline, of Bremen, 30th, lat. 45, lon. 28, by the Emma, Noseworthy, arrived at Cadiz. Sun, off and from Llanelly, 30th April, lat. 47, lon. 47, out 53 days, with loss of stern amongst the ice; Mohawk, ship, 29th Feb., lat. 10 N., lon. 76 E.; Concordia, ship, from Manilla, 6th April, lat 32 S., lon. 30 E. ; 1 Cornwall, China to Portsmouth, 25th ult. lat. 10 N. lon. 31 W.; Friendship, ship, 21st, lat. 47, lon. 42 ; Spring, brig, Ist inst., lat. 42, lon. 30 ; Meu, brig, standing southward and westward, 4th, lat. 47, lon. 18, by the Carnatic, Hyne, arrived in the Downs. Dolphin, schooner, of Bremen, bound to Monte Video, 27th April, lat. 2 N., len. 22; her Majesty's ship Thames, 13th, lat. 28 N., lon. 57 W.; Emily Caroline, Prussian brig, lat. 41, lon. 30; Banner, Liverpool to Fayal, 2d inst., lat. 41, lon. 12; John Elward, Ame rican ship, 4th inst., by the Samuel Boddington, Noakes, arrived in the Downs. Persian, Java to Amsterdam, 31st March, lat. 35 S., lon. 28 E. ; Amelia, Mauritius to London, 18th April, lat. 33 S., lon. 17 E. ; Ocean, brig, for the Coast of Africa, 21st, lat. 28 S., lat. 11 E. ; East, Indian, 2d ult., lat. 13 S., lon. 10 W. ; Jeune Ernest, brig, 6th, lat. 51 S., lon. 18 W.; Eliza Jane, barque, 7th, ' lat. 3 S., lon. 20 W.; Sir Charles Napier, from the Cape of Good Hope, 9th, lat. 1 N., lon. 22 W. ; Maximilian 1., Dutch barque, 11th, lat. 5, lon. 25 ; Augustine Vic tonne, of Cherbourg, 12th, lat. 6 N., lon. 28 W. ; Warrior, M'lntosb, out four days, 21st ult., lat. 48, lon. 9 ; Jane Wilson, 4th inst., off the Lizard, by the Acorn, Jones, arrived in the River. Zulueka, Liverpool to Singapore, 6th March, off Java Head ; Black Prince, Africa, to Liverpool, 7th April, lat. 33 S., lon. 31 E., by the Cushing, arrived at Liverpool. Cheshire, Liver pool to Barbadoes, 14th ult., lat. 23 N., lon. 37 W., by the Mary Somerville, arrived at Liverpool. Lucretia, London to Cape Coast Castle, 14th April, lat. 4 N., lon. 7 W., by the Majestic, arrived at Liverpool. David, from Scotland, 26th March, off Fernando Po ; Napa rima, 27th April, lat. 1 N., lon. 21 W. ; John Cochrane, 17th ult., lat. 30, lon. 40, by the Peruvian, arrived at Liverpool. Caroline, St. John's, N. 8., to Lon don, 31st ult., lat. 48, lon. 13, by the Cor sair, arrived at Liverpool. Martha Anne, Cuba to Amsterdam, 13th ult., lat. 41, lon. 39, by the Covenanter, arrived at Liverpool. Prince Regent, of Hull, for Quebec, 25th ult., lat. 40, lon. 21; Pratt, for Richibucto 26th, lon. 20, by the Millman, arrived at Liverpool. R. A. Parke, Mobile to Liverpool, 16th ult., lat. 35, lon. 72, by the Washington, arrived at Liverpool. Worcester, London to Madras, 23d April, on the line, by the Mary Hannah, arrived at Liverpool. Susan, 22d Feb., lat. 38 S., lon. 155 E.; Diamond, from London, 29th March, lat. 58 S., lon. 71 E.; her Majesty's ship Win chester, 12th April, lat. 1 N., lon. 23 W.; an English barque, with emigrants for New South Wales, 19th, by the Columbine, arrived at Liverpool. Jane Duppas, Liverpool to Boston, 3d inst., lat. 48, lon 41, by the Elizabeth Wood, arrived at• Liverpool. UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE. OXFORD, JUNE B.—There will be an election to two Fel lowships at University College, on Wednesday, October 30; one on the foundation of William of Durham, and the other on that of Sir Simon Bennet. There will be an election at Lincoln College on Thursday, October 31, open. to natives of the county of Lincoln. The following are the successful competitors for the Uni versity Prizes for 1844 : For the Latin Verse—E. Palmer, Scholar of Balliol College. For the Latin Essay—H. Smith, Fellow of Magdalen College. For the English Verse—J. L. Brereton, Scholar of Univer sity College. 'or the English Essay—C. C. Pritchard, Fellow of Balliol College. Dr. Ogle, of Trinity College, and Dr. Daubeny, Fellow of Magdalene College. have been appointed Public Examiners for Degrees in Medicine. Mr. W. F. Norris Blount, Scholar of Trinity College, has been elected a Scholar of that College on the Foundation of Sir Thomas Pope; and Mr. R. J. Ogle, from IVinchester School, has been elected Blount Scholar of the above College. R. Gandell Michel, Scholar of Queen's College, has been elected to the Hebrew Scholarship, founded by Mrs. Kennicott. F. Secretan, of Wadham College, has been elected to the Hebrew Scholarship, founded in 1832, called the Pusey and Ellerton Scholarships ; Mr. Secretan was last year elected to the Kennicott Scholarship. The Rev. J. Woolley, of University College, has been ap pointed Professor of Moral Philosophy and Theology in Queen's College, Birmingham. A. W. Davies, of Hungerford, has been elected to a Scholar ship in St. Mary Hall, founded by Dr. Dyke. The Marquis of Hertford has presented the Rev. F. A. Crow to the Rectory of Alcester, Warwickshire, value 2591. per annum. G. W. Heneage, Esq., has presented the Rev. E. H. Thomp son to the Perpetual Curacy of Lyneham, Wiltshire, value 581. per annum. The Rev. John Moore has been presented to the Vicarage of Enfield, Middlesex, value 1,1741. per annum. • The Lord Chancellor has presented the Rev. D. Nihill to the Vicarage of Bridgewater, with Rectory of Chilton an nexed, value 3421. per annum. Cammuoc E, JUNE B.—Edward Thring, Scholar, has just been elected Fellow of King's College. THE Cuuncn.—The following appointments have taken place : The Rev. Edward D. Green, of Queen's College, to the Cu racy of Pitney, Somerset; the Rev. William Cooke, 8.A., Trinity Hall, to the Curacy of Hillingdon Church, Middle sex ; the Rev. George Carpenter, 8.A., of St. John's College, to the Curacy of St. George's-in-the-East, London ; the Rev. E. K. Lutt, 8.A., of Sidney College, to the Curacy of Great Woolston, Bucks. THE ARMY. REVISED PASSAGE WARRANT FOR OFFICERS OF THE ARMY. War-office, May 6, 1844. Sir,—l have the honour to inclose her Majesty's warrant ofthis date, revising the warrant of the 19th of October, 1842, for regulating.the passages and passage allowhnces of officers of the army. 1. The alterations which have been made do not affect the principle which governed the former warrant, that an officer should pay for his own messing at sea, that sum only to which he was subjected for his ordinary messing on shore. 2. By the warrant of 19th October, 1842, officers messed on board Queen's ships, whether at the table of the captain or at the mess of the lieutenants, and officers messed under the contract, at the table of the master of a vessel chartered or hired by the public, were liable to prescribed contributions from their pay for their own messing, and for that of each member of their faintly, which contributions were to be stopped from their pay by the Secretary at War. 3. The warrant of the 6th May, 1844, has established that, A Field-officer messed at the table of a captain of the navy will have to contribute the sum of 3s. 6d. a day for his own messing, and the daily sums prescribed in the 13th article of the instructions for the messing of each member of his family. This contribution will be deducted from his pay by the Sec retary-at-War, and the Lords Commissioners of the Ad miralty will issue the prescribed allowances to the captain of the navy. 4. A Field-officer has, however, the option of joining, with his family, the ward-room mess. 5. Officers messed at the table of the lieutenant command ing, or at the table of the lieutenant of a ship of war, will receive from the Secretary. at-War 4s. a day, in aid of the ex pense of their own messing, in advance for the same numb er of days as the pay is issued to advance on embarkation, but will be required to pay to the officers of the ship the actual share of the expense of the mess equally with the officers of : the ship, and will also pay to the officers of the ship the pro portions of that actual expense prescribed by the 13th article; of the instructions for their wives and children permitted to embark with them. Such proportion of the payment is to be made in advance as may be considered by the naval officers' necessary for providing the mess for the passage. 6. Officers messed in vesses hired or chartered by the public, in which a proper table is, under the contract, to be provided by the master, will be liable to a deduction of 3s. 6d. a day from their pay by the Secretary-at-War for their own messing, but must themselves pay to the master the sums prescribed in the 14th article of the instructions for the Blessing of each member of their family. 7. Officers provided with passages in the contract steam vessels are to be subjected to the prescribed contribution of 3s. 6d. a day themselves, and must pay to the owners the contract rate for the accommodation and messing of their families. 8. Officers entitled to a free passage, and providing their, own mess on board ship will be allowed four shillings a day, to be paid to them by the Secretary-at-War, but are not en titled to any allowance whatever for the messing of their families. 9. I have to request that you will caution officer to be particularly careful that the prescribed certificates are in every instance obtained, to enable them to receive the liberal allowances which her Majesty has been graciously pleased to sanction. I have the honour to be, Sir, your most obedient servant, H. lIARDINGE. The Officer commanding - Regiment. A. marriage is said to be on the tapis between a Noble Viscount, sitting in the Lower House, and the fair daughter of a Marquis who enjoys considerable influence in the Whig political circles. Baron de Moncorvo, Portuguese Minister, transacted business yesterday at the l'oreign- office. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 10. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. The Eastern Union Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. The minutes of evidence in the Croydon and Epsom Railway Bill were handed in. Mr. MAURICE O'CONNELL presented 111 pe titions from various places in Ireland against the Irish Registration Bill. DISSENTERS' CHAPELS BILL. Petitions ;g7iinst this Bill were presented by Lord Ashley, Col. Vernon, Mr. Scholefield from Birmingham, and Mr. F. Maule from various places. Mr. BUTLER presented a petition from Ireland com plaining of the monopoly at present possessed by the Bank of Ireland, and praying for the adoption of the Scotch system of banking in Ireland. Captain A'COUB , T presented a petition from Tam worth against the Savings' Banks Bill. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD presented a petition from the congregation of Lyle Hole, county of London derry, praying the House to pass a Bill to make valid all marriages by Presbyterian clergymen. Mr. R. YORKE presented petitions in favour of the Dissenters' Chapels Bill from York. Mr. BRIGHT presented petitions against the Dis senters' Chapels Bill. Lord CLIVE presented five petitions against the union of the Sees of Bangor and St. Asaph. Mr. BARNEBY presented several petitions against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. Dr. BOWRING presented several petitions from Roman Catholics in Lancashire in favour of the Bill. Viscount COURTENAY presented petitions from Exeter against the Bill. Mr. BROTHERTON presented petitions in favour of the Bill. Lord R. GROSVENOR presented a petition from St. George's, Hanover-square, against certain clauses in the new Poor-law Bill. Mr. M. J..O'CONNELL presented four petitions from various parts of Ireland in favour of the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. Mr. W. 0. STANLEY presented petitions against the union of the sees of Bangor and St. Asaph. Lord J. STUART presented petitions from Ayr, in favour of the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. The Earl of HILLSBOROUGH presented twenty four petitions against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. Mr. DlVE'rr presented petitions from Ottery St. Mary against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. Mr. LOCH presented several petitions to the same effect. Viscount CASTLEREAGH presented petitions from parishes in Down, in favour and against the Bill ; also petitions praying for a Bill to legalise Presbyterian mar riages. Mr. S. O'BRIEN presented a petition from Ketley against the Dissenters , Chapels Bill. Mr. lIUME presented several petitions in favour of the Bill. Sir JOHN TROLLOPE presented a petition on the •sub;ect of the Currency, from Mr. Leicester Melville, and moved that it should be printed with the Votes. The Hon. Member also gave notice of his intention to call the notice of the House to the suggestions of the petition when the Bank Charter should be under discussion. Mr. MILES presented several petitions from Somer setshire against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill ; and a pe tition praying for the establishment of a bishopric in Manchester. Mr. HUM.E gave notice that on Thursday be should call the attention of the House to some recent proceed ings in Caithness in reference to statute labour assess ments. Dr. BOWRING gave notice that to-morrow he should put a question to the Noble Lord, the Secretary for the Colonies (Lord Stanley), in reference to some unpaid claims in the island of St. Helena ; and that on Thurs day he should move for amended returns as to the har bour duties of the Isle of Man. CONVOCATION OF THE CLERGY. Lord JOHN MANNERS presented a petition, signed by several members of the Established Church, praying for a revival of the Convocation. VINEGAR AND GLASS DUTIES BILL. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX CHEQUER, the Vinegar and Glass Duties Bill was read a third time. WAYS AND MEANS. The order of the day for the House resolving itself into a Committee of Ways and Means, was read, for the purpose of being postponed until Wednesday. BANK CHARTER. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX CHEQUER, the order of the day for the second read ing of the Bank Charter Bill was read, and ordered to be, postponed until Thursday. Mr. HUME asked if it was to be understood that Thursday was the day fixed for the second reading of the Bank Charter Bill ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER —As far as anything can be ascertained it is. ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS BILL. On the motion for going into a Committee of the whole House upon the Sugar Duties Bill being put, Sir GEORGE GREY said be wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, when it was the intention of the Government to proceed with the Eccle siastical Courts Bill ? Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, to-morrow. IRISH REGISTRATION BILL. Mr. T..DUNCOMBE begged to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman when the Government would proceed with the Irish Registration Bill. Sir JAMES GRAHAM hoped the Hon. Gentleman would wait till his Right Hon. Friend the First Lord of the Treasury was in his place. SPA IN. Mr. P. BORTIIWICK gave notice, that on the first day he could fix, he would move for re turns of all copies of correspondence which might have passed between Don Carlos and her Ma jesty's Government in this count r y , and aetween her Majesty's Government and the Go vernment of France, and also between her Majesty's Government and the Government of Spain, on the subject of the original pro positions said to have been made by her Majesty's Go vernment to Don Carlos, having for their object the pacification of Spain, and involving on the part of that CHAPELS BILLS. Mr. C. BULLER wished to know from the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government, when he intended to proceed with the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill, and whether there was any probability of its being further proceeded with during the present session.— (Hear, hear.) He also wanted to know when the Dis senters' Chapels Bill would be proceeded with. Sir R. PEEL said that the Government had no great temptation to name tin early day for the further consi deration of the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill, as they had not yet got through the first clause. Mr. C. BULLER—Cannot it come on on Friday ? Sir R. PEEL said that it was impossible it could come on on that day. As to the Dissenters' Chapels Bill, the Government were anxious to proceed with it as soon as possible. COUNT OSTROWSKI. Captain BERNAL wished to put a question to the Right Hon. Baronet, the Secretary of State for the Home Department. The liberty . of the subject had been violated a few days since in the person of a Polish officer, who had not only been sent to prison, but the whole of his papers had been taken by the police. He wished to know whether that had been done by warrant, and whether the Right Hon. Baronet was at all aware of it ? Sir J, GRAHAM said, his attention had only been called to the subject by what he had read in the papers. In consequence of what he had seen, he made inquiries that morning on the subject of the Police Commissioners, and he understood from them, that from private infor mation they had received the police captured the party, and the Commissioners thought the police were justified in apprehending the party. The charges that were made were proved before the magistrate, the party was held to bail, and if he was not satisfied at the course pursued, he had his remedy elsewhere. Mr. BLEWITT said, in his opinion there had been no justification whatever for seising the papers of the individual alluded to, and more especially in the manner which lir this instance had been adopted. DON CARLOS-SPAIN. Mr. BORTHWICIC said he wished to put a question of which he had given notice to the Right Hon. Gentle man (Sir Robert Peel). The matter to which it had reference had been recently very strongly discussed both in the French and English newspapers. He wished to know whether any proposition had been made by Don Carlos in reference to the marriage of the Queen of Spain, whether such proposition had been submitted to the English Government, and what had been their answer upon the subject. Sir R. PEEL said, in answer to the question which had been put to him, he begged to state that a com munication had certainly been made to the British Government of the proposition made by Don Carlos, in reference to the marriage of the Queen of Spain. The communication was of an indirect and informal charac ter ; but it was to the effect that the son of Don Carlos should be united to the Queen of Spain. The Hon. Gen tleman (Mr. Borthwick) asked if the object of the propo sition was not the tranquillisation of Spain ? That certainly was stated as a chief object by Don Carlos, but her Majesty's Government did not think the effect of those propositions would be such as were anticipated by the parties making them. The propositions had not been very distinctly put, but Don Carlos, in making them, did not relinquish for himself and for his son a claim to the throne of Spain. The course the English Government had taken was to make the Government of Spain acquainted with the proposals of Don Carlos, and this on the principle that that Government alone was competent to decide the question.— (Hear, hear.) He (Sir R. Peel) might at the same time be al lowed to state his opinion that the question was not a mere question of personal claims, but rather one of great constitutional principle. The propositions of Don Car los had been referred to the proper and competent authority—the Government of Spain. Lord PALMERSTON understood that the opinion of her Majesty's Government was, that the arrangement proposed by Don Carlos would not accomplish the object at which it professed;to aim, namely, the tranquillisation of Spain. He wished to ask if, in communicating that proposition to the Spanish Government, the British Government had expressed its own opinion as to the effect of the proposal, or if it had simply made the com munication to the Spanish Government? Sir ROBERT PEEL replied that the main object of the proposal was to bring about a marriage be tween the eldest son of I)on Carlos and the Queen of Spain. It was also stated that in case of that proposition being entertained, Don Carlos would state the concessions which he was willing to make to accomplish that marriage. What those concessions were to be was not stated. He had not stated whether he proposed to waive, on behalf of himself and his son, every claim to the throne of Spain. It had been made, perhaps, necessarily in an in direct manner—he did not complain of that, be cause Don Carlos having no representative at our Court, the proposition could not have been made in any other manner. The British Government had contented itself with making the communication to the Govern ment of Spain, but had not expressed any opinion in favour of the acceptance of the proposal, because they did not think that its acceptance would tend to the tranquillisation of Spain. The differences existing in Spain were not differences with regard to questions of succession, but differences with regard to different modes of government. The British Government had not concealed that opinion from the Court of Spain, but it had used no influence in favour of the proposition, neither had it thrown any obstacles in the way of its acceptance. Lord PALMERSTON agreed in the views of the Right Hon. Baronet as to the fact that the proposition would not lead to the tranquillisation of Spain, but the mere fact of the British Court having transmitted the pro position to - the Court of Spain would seem to give a weight to it to which it was not entitled, and would induce the Spanish Government to believe that the British Govern ment was in favour of the proposition. He wished to know whether the British Government in treating the proposi tion had given the Spanish Government to understand that it did not approve of it. Sir R. PEEL had transmitted the proposition to the Spanish Government, merely because he considered it was the duty of the Government not to withhold such a proposition from the knowledge of the Spanish Government ; but he could under take to say that it was impossible for the Spanish Government to think that the British Govern ment approved of that proposition, or entertained the least idea that it would conduce to the tranquillisation of Spain. Lord J. MANNERS understood there was no ambi guity in the proposition of Don Carlos. Sir R. PEEL said there was no direct statement of the willingness of Don Carlos to waive his personal claims to the throne of Spain ; but if he was to waive his per sonal claims, and insist on those of his eldest son, that he apprehended would be no waiver of his claim of hereditary right to the throne. Mr. BORTIIWICK thought that all he had heard rendered it expedient that he should continue the notice of motion which he had given. CUSTOM-HOUSE FRAUDS. In answer to an Hon. Member, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, stated he intended to make a selection of the evidence taken by the Custom House Commission Inquiry, and to have it printed. Mr. lIUME thought the whole of the evidence ought to be printed. SUGAR DUTIES. The order of the day was then read. On the motion that the Speaker do leave the Chair, Mr. JAMES rose, and said that he hoped he might be ! 1 permitted to make a few observations on this ques tion ; first, because he did not often trouble the House ; secondly, because there had not been a full discussion on the second reading ; and, thirdly, because he was one of those unfortunate beings called a West India planter, not through any fault of his own, but because, some cen turies ago, an ancestor of his was encouraged by the Go vernment of that day to invest money in the purchase of a West India estate in the island of Jamaica, and who expected that future Governments would not legislate to injure, much less to destroy the value of, their property. He proposed, in the first place, to take the opportunity of expressing his conviction that few Members of the House were really acquainted with the exact facts of the case, or with the unfortunate condition in which the West Indian interests were now placed. He thought he could best illustrate their condition by his own situation, and that was peculiarly favour able as regard e d the cultivation of West Indian property, for he was not exactly in the light of an absentee proprietor, having a son residing in the country who was acquainted with the business, and also an over seer, who had resided there several years, and was thoroughly acquainted with the mode of cultivating sugar. There were no mortgages on the property, and he had no occasion, as many had, to employ merchants and pay them two-and-a-half per cent. He had only to pay a commission broker. Now what was his case ? Every pound of sugar he imported from Jamaica, taking an average of three years, cost him 4d. in the production and transport. What happened when it arrived in this country? The Chancellor of the Exchequer immediately put a tax of 3d. per lb. on it, thus making the price 7d. A great deal had been said about the clearness of sugar, but all he had been able to get for his sugar was 6i-d. per lb., thus losing lb. Or 500/. on every 100 hogsheads of sugar. This was not a very pleasant _position to be in, with regard to pro perty which, during the existence of slavery, was worth 3,000 L a year, and, during the apprentice ship system, half that sum, and he had clone everything to diminish the cost of cultivation. What was the cause of this mischievous state of things? Was it not the existence of a tax of 3d. upon their staple commodity, sugar ; and nearly a prohibitory tax upon rum ? Let it not be forgotten that these taxes were proposed by Mr. Pitt expressly as war taxes. Any gentleman who would refer to the debates of that day, would find that Mr. Pitt promised when the sugar duties were imposed that they should be the very first to be taken off whenever peace was established ; and yet there they were, nearly thirty years after the commencement of the peace, and the taxes remained precisely the same. They had heard a great deal about the 20,000,0001. He had more than once said, that although a very munificent gift, it was but a small compensation to the West Indian planters fur the loss which they sus • tained. He would like to know how gentlemen in that House would feel, if after their property had been ruined by the repeal of the corn-laws, the Hon. Member for Stockport should rise and propose to give them 2s. 6d. in the pound as compensation ? They took from them their slaves, and up to that time they threw every possible impediment in the way of their availing themselves of free labour. They had been asked, why, if they lost by their estates, they did not abandon their cultivation ? They had not abandoned the cultivation up to that time, because they relied upon the justice and the sympathy of the Members of that House, and he would fain hope that they did not altogether rely upon a broken reed. He did not hesitate to say that many of the proprietors in Jamaica had been treated more cruelly than the slaves had ever been treated. The slaves had always had a supply of good and wholesome food, whilst, by the legislation of that House, proprietors were rendered destitute. Did any one believe that if they were as powerful as the landed interest such measures would be proposed as were then under conside ration ? He was sorry to see the great discouragement, which had been given to their interest by the change of, opinion on the part of the Right Hon. Baronet at the 1 head of the Government. As to the opposition of the Honoirable Member for Dumfries, he did not con sider it very formid a bl e • for he brought forward such wild, extravagant, an d ultra views on all sorts of subjects, that he really did not think any rational person could coincide in his views. —(Hear, hear.) He regretted the course pursued by his Noble Friend the Member for the City of London. What he chiefly complained of in his Noble Friend was, that he did not come forward at the same time to propose the repeal of the Emancipation Act. If they were to have slave labour sugar admitted into this country, let that Act be repealed. To give an advantage to slave countries which was not possessed by their own colonies, did appear to him to be a course of legislation which was calculated to make them the laughing-stock of every nation in the world. If they really wished to benefit the people of England, it could only be effected justly in one- way, that was by diminishing the costs of production in their own colonies, and gradually reducing the tax. Let them only have plenty of free labour, reduce the tax on colonial sugar from 245. to 12s. ; by that means they would do ample justice to the West Indians, and confer an important benefit on the people of England, whilst at the same time they would suffer noloss, but would ob tain a gain on the revenue by the largely increased consumption that would take place. He would not say anything more, for he had almost given up the case as hopeless. Mr. EWART said his Hon. Friend had charged him with asserting rash propositions; he thought his Hon. Friend ought to recollect that these propositions had been made year after year. He maintained that the commerce and manufactures of the people of this country were affected by the discriminating defies which his Hon. Friend had attempted to defend. His Hon. Friend there fore came into court not as plaintiff, but as defendant. He (Mr. Ewart) certainly could not understand the conduct of those Hon. Members whom he considered to be represented by the Hon. Gentleman who had last addressed the House (Mr. James). Were they, then, actually coming down to that House to protect and uphold the system of monopoly ? There was, however, a want of skill as well as a degree of partiality in the conduct of this class of Members who now came down to make common cause with the monopolists. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. James) had made an attack on the Right Hon. Baronet opposite (Sir R. Peel), which it would have been better to refrain from. It was easy to rake up speeches delivered over a course of many years, and to cavil at them ; but for his (Mr. Ewart's) part, he thought it the duty of a Prime Minister to watch opinion as it advanced, and to endeavour to keep pace with it, and glad was he to find that, however slowly, the Right Honourable Baronet was disposed to move onwards. The question how ever, now before the House was, whether one part of our colonies was to be benefited at the expense of the general well-being of the country. Such a system would be, in fact, ultimately injurious to the planters themselves. No worse policy could be pursued than that of retaining those differential duties. Throw open the sugar trade, and the general commerce of the country would be increased to an almost illimitable extent. No measure, except that of the repeal of the corn-laws, would do so much good, as placing the sugar trade on a proper foundation. What he (Mr. Ewart) wished to see done was this—to reduce the duty to what it was before the war; to what it was, for example, in the year 1790. Then the duty levied on sugar was 12s. 4d. per cwt. Unless they reduced the duties upon sugar so low as to increase the consumption among the labouring classes, they would do nothing. The real consumers of all commodities were the labouring classes. He would re mind the Chancellor of the Exchequer that it had been shown before the Select Committee that nineteen twentieths of the tobacco consumed in the country was. consumed by the labouring classes—(Hear, hear)—and he would venture to say, that the consumption of tea and coffee was in the same propor tion. Unless they could bring the price of sugar down to fourpence per pound, they would do nothing. The rich consumed from 601 b. to 701 b. of sugar per head per annum, and the poor only 71b. The rich amounted to 5,000,000, the poor to 23,000,000 ; thus, the power of consumption of 23,000,000 persons re mained undeveloped. A great quantity of sugar was formerly consumed in Ireland, but at present, owing to the high duty, the consumption in Ireland had diminished to an average of 71b. per head per annum, in stead of an average of 211 b. per head per annum, as was the case in England. In consequence of the high duty, adulteration took place to a very great extent, and the paor man, who consumed the muscovado sugar, suffered exclusively from those adulterations, for the rich man consumed only refined sugar. With regard to the West Indian interests, the more honest course would be to let them know the worst at once.—(Hear.)' The false support on which they had heretofore leant could not last more than a few years, and his Hon. Friend would find that out. It would be better for the West India interest to come to a wise compromise in time, for it was beyond all doubt that the present false system could not last, and his Hon. Friend had proved it was injurious to the West India interest itself. They were in a false position, out of which it was their wish to extri c at e them. It was a remarkable circumstance, that the foreign trade had increased in a much greater proportion than the colonial trade. Let them look to the case of Bristol and Liverpool. The former was dependent on a colonial trade, and had not ad vanced, while Liverpool, which had extended its trade to all parts of the world, had made rapid advances. It was the same with regard to Havre and Bordeaux, the latter of which depended on the old colonial system. He had certainly once introduced to the House a pro posal for extending the cultivation of free labour sugar, but it was rather to agitate the question than with any idea of its adoption. For his own part, he regarded commerce as the great emancipator. He maintained that the real 'way to bring this question to an issue, was to throw open the markets to the pro duce of the world, and allow free labour and slave labour produce to come at once boldly into conflict in the market of this country. This would be the conclu sion to which they would have to come at last. He be lieved, too, that the planters themselves would be bene fited by this. He admitted that they had been injured by_the legislation of this country, which had restricted their commerce, and he wished to see that system of legis lation abolished. If the colonies were to be an integral portion of this country, the colonists ought to be treated as the inhabitants of this country were treated. His Hon. Friend had complained of a deficiency of labour in the West Indies. Why, let the trade be thrown open to the world, and this evil would soon remedy itself. The energies of our colonies would never be developed, un less they were subjected to full and fair competition. He wished to bring this subject to some definite point, and to ascertain, by a division, whether the House was will ing to equalise the duty on foreign and colonial sugar, or not. If he did not succeed in inducing the House to abolish the differential duty, then he would propose, as an amendment to the motion of the Hon. Member for Bristol, that these differential duties should expire at the end of a year, By equalising the duties they might bring them as low as 15s. ; and if they would do so l , te t; commerce in this article would increase to e altogether unknown. If justice were to consumers, there must be a general system of r 0 0 1 in the imposts on those articles which came into consumption, for this should be the great objeet lation. Mr. M. GIBSON seconded the motion. Mr. JA NIES explained. th i ' be doanenedutectithone The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sal i c e, subject had been so fully discussed on a recent 002.5.4 that he did not think it necessary to troubl e the of at any length. They would find in the speech ° t o t s Hon. and Learned Gentleman, by a careful atteabser sufficient grounds for rejecting the motio n. The °_ther vations of the Hon. and Learned Gentlema n were ratter in favour of a general reduction or abolition °clot', than to the subject under the consideration of the lat_', oo He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was most ati.',.„o to reduce taxation to the lowest possible state consitToe, with the maintenance of the revenue; but, wit ho l d s ot gletting the first duties of a Government , they cou_ a pe at present accede to the proposition of the ifell'sted Dawned Member for Dumtries. Those wh o had inv e no r capital in sugar should not be altogether forgotten. 00 should they altogether overlook the interests of their colonies. T,earil ei Mr. HUME recommended his Hon. anu„ -- West Friend not to press his motion at present. =tuF tios to Indian colonists were not at present in posl tell • cope with foreign Powers, and they should no%. Se man to run away whilst they knew the length of „A s t They should first relieve the West Indian .I'7 from the disadvantages and burdens which he ° present to contend with, and having done these tobligs' co n pe but not until then, might they fairly expect them t d ove with the Brazilian or the Cuban, who e m p loye labour.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. LA E, though opposed to the i gl oo would yet recommend the Hon. and Learned Gent to press his motion to a division. i d be Mr. M. GIBSON was of opinion that it Wen f rte much better for the country if the exact areoen t e se , to claims of the colonists were laid before the tina.oalli have them amply compensated, than that t he, be thus allowed to obstruct a measure which 1 0 ` . 0 0 , much conduce to the welfare of the British ema l°l oo o He saw no reason why 10s. should be the exac t a „,i s ais l " of duty which was necessary to compensate the c - ob as' Besides, our trade with foreign countries was i °D e peded by the present restrictions, and he fo r f it sj would protest against preferring the interests °obis, class of capitalists to the advantage of the P.. 0 01 He disagreed entirely with the feeling which • °Ls e l that this interference would prevent the consuMP o " Itek slave-grown sugar by English subjects. He teraegrees that at the time when the emancipation of the ° oa was under the consideration of Parliament, toe f humane persons abstained altogether fro m the he 0 5 sugar, because it was produced by slaves ; a nd t t ie surprised that a Government, who professe d to ac t° tlie commercial principles, should lend its influen ce o ste setting up of a new principle—the rejection of &t il l ,' with other States on - the ground of slavery 0.00 tolerated in them. He regarded the monopoiy„a was set up as extremely pernicious, and calculi' t o insult the feelings of foreign St a tes, and ren d t r o g difficult the formation of commercial treaties with States. but ths J Strangers were then ordered to withdr aw ' , e fo sii House did not divide ; and on our re-admission:,. jli4; Mr. VILLIERS addressing the House. . IP or e piee l3 ,i Member said that the questions put to the G -01 „,'" s e c` ) were of so much imortance that the Ministry h▪ ear' ) justified in refusing to reply to them.—(H The House and the country had a i'v demand from the Government the reas°llt'ectio'• k the West India islands were to have this Pr ° , t the Was it that they were so useful ? Was i t t : t he ,, were so loyal ? Whereas, only foue+ years aeo-t'lo legislatures were suspended because they We re ss li s - e tha —(Hear, hear.) Were they contented , ea Member for Cumberland (Mr. James) hau.,ls-sfie tb answer.—(Hear, hear.) He had told the P °- o f the colonies were ruined by the emancipa t° slaves. The philanthropists, as well as the ec °ll ..s ° e had always contended that it would be best to tht",,M West Indies upon their own resources, and to 'l o co , the altogether with protective duties. That had b joti l ,e eff' opinion of Mr. dropper, Mr. Stevens, and seve ra g isa A r , and the result had fully borne them out. Ja ra- ,, s erwi.,, not the whole of the West Indies: but, on tbe c - o sir d . it would be found, that if there were any deficj• ei) s rott) der particular circumstances, in that island, w e ; filr es i in other islands had doubled in six years.—(R, ca t ie v o si The whole measure was designed to forwar d , ;u et, ss t Indians, who had too much influence in the C aw ; too much power over the Government.—( lqea fve r fol he would ask the House, did they not know of's: ptf other countries, the governors of which w er i u fgaa dealers in the slave trade themselves?—(Hear.)„ ve t ,„"j$ a slave trade was carried on with Nubia, ar tr i Of F i t' Pacha was recognised as the friend an , c l , l ,,,i'for P f d country, although the slaves were not intended c e ~( 0 dial labour alone, but for more degraded serhe to 9 more unworthy purposes. He would supp ort t • it ion bet of his Hon. Friend, and must express his °P who the questions of the Right Hon. Gentleman 11011; last sat down ought to be answered. the ri* Mr. GLADSTONE was surprised that foroelii Gentlemen should make a charge against h i° t at, stating the grounds on which the Goverana,,, e° protection to the West Indian interest. P, e te d to that every Hon. Member was so well acqua' l3 ee tfr ba that that he had considered it would be disresP a cer,' the House to repeat them over again ; if, h°,01(1)0 must repeat them—(Cries of " No, no") —he flo r f j re first, that they were maintained, because a be e- d ot system of protection the customs had alway s 0 011 6 0 gulated ; and secondly, because they had b qbe tr ite protection amounting almost to prohibition. fl aito 3 o o , was, that at the present moment the We st re ' o b' terest was suffering a depression of labour 0 g e l' any other interest. He did not think that the the Hon. Member for Manchester afforded s °filo Y o r; lent example of the benefit of free labour. • Member for Wolverhampton had referred t 1 resre published by Mr. Gurney four years ago, " 1 .. 1 t by t ir , to the effect of free labour in Antigua, and frrboor,ol; had argued that, in consequence of that free ladsabl, the export of sugar from that island had bee t , , but he had taken no notice of a return that still;tY laid on the table only four days ago, or e t .v eg he Y fee discovered that such was not the case. „P u ce Hon. Gentleman ought to have better evi e he made the assertion. Dr. BOWRING said, to his certain t" - „ ` 5 10' r rfa , Pacha of Egypt had been ready to put do w sz - i itsit i ' any way that might be suggested by Great ;1' sts would support the motion of his Hon. Fri en tat ile " Mr. VILLIERS asserted again that the Sy ' fi r ' Mr. Gurney were correct. ate ici Lord STANLEY repudiated their accuracy e of " Divide, divide." th ose. 0 0 ,, Mr. COBDEN then rose to address the 'uses po" appeared to him a great disposition in the 0 0 , 11 ' 0 0 0 . ; the discussion of this question upon prineill'a;sail..„l! sides of the House there was a marked dil i f e di e :f IV, to entertain the proposition of the Hon. `-thata Dumfries. He had no hesitation in saY in A g i ous s il e question was properly considered and ~"1 . 1. s n.,j -c e Minister could withstand it. The Right bad J - , man at the head of the Board of Trad e "o u re e ipt . ,,,i t '' upon the question of something that Ai r ', t o il i „ a tn., written. Be (Mr. Cobden) could not agr e- s ,as ciple of protection ; all that was wan ted - te j, 00 1 ; 4 principle of non-interference should be ad o be been attempted to blink the question, bat to alie 0 .41 j mask it. The fact was, they wanted to g ive . s seeli India proprietors 10s. a cwt. more for o'l *vo r ,i o lN it would produce in the markets of th e ot ial vjer t l that was to be accomplished by a diffe re s or o (Hear, hear.) For his own part, h e co ve t lo fe t that the West Indians had no right to f, o ble., 01 0 1 „ House and ask it to make their trade nrc„.°,`,,,salaiiii',o what would be the effect of the measure.? Westoalcoi no benefit on the coloured population Or t ' e ns oli o f ~01 and it could not be doubted that the nan ° o - ,,' i rers e " c e had not leen of any benefit to the leh dity country, for the fact was that they state d xopf been ruined by a differential duty of 6 35 0 fore, could a differential duty of 10s. do the a ble 0 p it or, The time was when a Member was inea,P ;n c e t in that House if he was a monopolist, an" ~'- o ttie V ,, e incumbent upon Members, if they lane i s :S ° were monopolists, to name them, en v ' . 0 11 91 Vin of that year, the Members for ""' t hat aite 3 c , and Bridgewater, were unseated on t hey ' r e Reverting, however, to the monopolies as t he y we be y, the present day, he begged to state that t n , r elf e plained of, and protested against, not ta` e ,,plet r ad they took away from the comforts of the P, f itt e o eC t fr ,0 0 DO I cause they were a hindrance to trade• pr e lit f ie banish at the present time those who W- us ele', o ol`,"be' with, or interested in them, would be t t nt ire P itY for it would be attempting to banish an e;bter,,./ e te. of those who composed the House.—( l ' 4u 'up came the free traders, therefore, to stir t hat in order that the monopolists Ind connected with sugar, timber, coffee, " - f . it vo t e pi' might on a future occasion be kept out o . re o a u tiv r° • 4 He (Mr. Cobden) did not stand there t in teli_ A re / c c' India planters. He had no wish ---n° Ina° ce the .313 so. On the contrary, he wished to s , at ° fl o e; and to that end he urged them to coate; t ' d t g ou ia m tl i traders in order to carry a low duty.ost t even 14s. per lb., would put them in a bettet,,r ad De lit W e 00 : years time from the present than thei_:angeosol4):l years. The consequence of such an arf: i n istr o be to give to the West India trade oal,L.,cecvi pulse—better machinery would be intri7 d .....anf te r ; system of cultivation would be origli;t qua'o,lol,,P`j would begin to develope itself in t..,, u isite t f l P o ts. perhaps that was an article more. alres.4 o 0 0 '; other.- 7 -(Laughter.) Let matters in Li; pro pr e l ;6o l3 s o . ;l put upon a sound footing, and the suga_,,al qt l 04 0. 0 e, have no fear of Cuba or Brazil. Tif tr r : WA S ~° f 1C4 .1 .15/ 1 1 1 monopoly or no monopoly? The coun try W° nopoly ; it neither desired large nr s ' . monopolies, nor modified monoe_ l : t f r eliaj t sej i diel was perfectly satisfied, that the v` r or, se f, would find themselves much more pry ins to r Ebe. P m tr go hand in hand with the free tract o f fo nOO l l5 Ol y o in f g p t a h r e t m y. se a l n ye d s to to btehmoiradoevvsnlivatntluecZisr coo ped of 1,110, ment.— (Hear, hear.) . 1 , 05 one r dar' 0 1 Mr. P. STEWART said there , . _ lot a r jo g argument of his Bon. Friend N' .. n . ,v d us e° pat io tb.ll House, which might be very or be i s pg, o .' e st school to which he (Mr. Cobden)t it ivwere „,tio in its charaefire was not very English o sriet°' that because the West India P_r4oid be 3 100 de o 0 te tt and weak body, therefore theyr_rn, iu _ 6O it really ought in fairness to b _u t l e th e t hat_ o 'f . r . f West India interest had been In bu t foi . olcs. , c ir o o titular system of legislation ; an tt t erlY re° P r °I C 3 t e colon differentialle the free traders in the present ;u O , s d w ut o i u es ld , a o ve f abne;tshi and m no a t n blNy.ithhimasehlef,alt'oy rbuunrdaesittpeie:otnhep, burden at all. If the lion. tqw