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,i~~~ (Inut follow it tip; a . rick see it executed, The Riglit Hon. Gentleman then concluded with saying, that this should have his cordial support, and he was really sorry that the Committee had not car. tied the matter further : he thought they would have done well to have recommended to the House to call upon the ATTORNEY GENERAL to prosecute with the rigour of the Law, those who by name had been reported to have conduded themselves so cri. minally. Lord GEO. 6 1 /WENDISH explained, \ and said, that so far from screening the Magistrates, he was for punishing them, nor was he for screening the vices of the town of Nottingham, but he was for preserving ancient establishments, which were very serious things, and great care should he taken not to lay a precedent for overturning them. Mr. HAWKINS BROWNE observed, that the Right Hun. Gentleman who had lately spoken (Mr. Ross) had said, that the Committee should have taken steps towards the punishment of the Instiga tors of the late riots at Nottingham, that they should have been marked out in the. Report, as ob :leas ht for pUnishment ; the reason why the Com. mittee did not do so was o that the persons alluded to were not parties to the Cause before the Commit tee, and could not he heard in their own defence, and so the Comniittee, thought it would not be fair to proceed to any step that might lead to their punishment, 'without giving them an opportunity of being heard in their own defence ; but the grim_ Mittee had recommended that the House : might pr. ruse the Evideoce ; and upon which Evidence it was as competent to any Member of the House as it was to the Committee, to recommend a prosecution against all or any of those persons Who appeared to have misconduaed thernsehres. This Bill had hien called a strong measure—lie- proposed it as a strong measure; for he did not put the riots at Notting ham upon a footing with common riots .; they were not like the riots of Coventry, nor any - other Elec tion riots. He did not call the riots of Notting ham EleCtion riots ; it was a planned scheme, long concerted, to insult and ill-treat in the most out. fageoas manner, all those who should vote for Mr. toka, and there were men stationed at and upon the Booth for that purpose, and to give signals for per. 1 ions at a distance to do the same thing; it was in. the estimation of these rioters, a capital crime to vote for a Gentleman who had represented the Town for upwards of so years, rather than for a Gentleman who; whatever his merit was, wr;s certainly anew Candidate. The outrages were the etfea of a aYste. Matic plan---a.in short it was a scheme funded on French principles, which produced French prat - bees,. and if this Bill was an unprecedented measure, he answerea, that the cause which produced it was unprecedented in this Country. The Hon. Gentle. Man (Mr. Fox) had called this Bill a measure of t &fled and insulting lenity. Now the Committee slid not consider any thing of lenity, they were guided by viewrOf justice, as it was their duty to be.guided. . There was not any difference of opi, Ilion on the conduit of the Magistrates ; they all agreed that effectual measures were not taken by them at the last Eleftion for Nottingham to suppress tiot, and. to preserve the Freedom of EleCtion ; but the CoMmittee had not expressed their opinion so its dire9ly to involve the Magistrates in , etiminality. They did not think proper to propose any measure tif prosecution, supposing that which was assumed bn the othet side to be current, which was far from being the case; but supposing it to be so, namely, that these Magistrates of the Town of Nottingham were eleited by the People, and that as such, they Were really the Guardians of the People, yet it could not be said that' their Jurisdiaion was destroyed by this Bill, for it only gave to other Justices a con. current jurisdiaion With them. As to the prece dent, of which the Hon, Gentleman appeared to be to apprehensive, he owned lie saw no danger in it, for such a measure never would he taken except Where it was necessary; and it would never be ne. tessary, but where such principles prevailed as those which made a system of riot at Nottingham, and it was our comfort that such principles had but little toot in this Country. Mr. SHAW LE FEI'RE said, that the present till had his hearty concurrence. As to the Amend. Ment proposed yesterday, by an lion. Gentleman who opposed this Bill with much vehemence (Mr. Vox), he found it his duty to oppose it, not only on` account of its general bad principle, but also be. cause it tended to degrade the Magistracy of thk Counties of this Kingdotir, to reduce them, and to place.them in a situation with the passe comitahis of which they were the Direauts, on lit occasions.-- As to County Magistrates being called Crown gistrates, he begged it to he understood by the Pub lic, that they were persons generally appointed to their Office (which was a laborious one, and which they performed gratis), upon principles of Independ ence. They were appointed tot the general good of the Country, and they generally ailed upon the prin. • civic .of their,, appointment.: He. did not like that it should go fOrth frons that House to the Public, that the Magistrates of the Coun. ties had either salaries or emoluments fat What they did, or that they had any dependance on the Crown or other dependance whatever ; on the con. trary, they devoted their time often from week to week, leaving the concerns of themselves and fami. lies, to perform some of the most important business . of t i k County and of the Public, without any other tee or reward Clan the approbation of their con sciences, for having contributed much to the public welfare. As to the Licensing Public-Houses, no iitivantages were derived to the County Magistrates from it ; on the contrary, it was a power, the ex. erase of which gave them much trouble. Some C lerks and inferior persons had tees and emoluments On such occasions, but the Magistrates none. • Mr ' FOX explained, and said he was misunder. s ,rt'°A l by the Hon. Gentleman who spoke, last, he "itl not mean to cast the slightest reileilion on the Magistrates of the Counties, on account of their being appointed by the Crown ; on the contrary, he stated that the greatest part of our Magistracy waft appointed by the Crown, and that he re garded as one of the eicellssocies of the system of Our Gorernment wh e n t hey were mixt with tboae Magistrates who were eleCted• He - never knew any suspicion entettained of the ge neral char:titer of the justices of the Peace for the Counties, --- He never insinuated that their i pawn ivas. exercised frOM corrupt Mott ve sail was, there was much Merit ill - the itinciple, and great benefit from tl►e.. practice of blending with them in the general Government of the cum• munity, Magistrates who were elective ; and he had only alluded to the general duty of a Magi stree, and observed that some parts of it were inure agreeable to perform than others. The excellence of our general Government b); municipal authority was, that it was blended, that it was an union of those who were nominated by the crown, and those who were eleled by the subject ; for he detested that affedation of simplicity which would have one of them without the other. The excellency, of our system consistedil providing that they should go on together, but each in his proper station. The question WAS then put The House then divided, ;;.,..w - - For the Bill Against it 264 -Majority 135 • The Bill was passed, and ordered to the Lords. On re-entering the Gallery,, we found the House in a Com mittee on the Clergy Bill. Sir WILLIAM GEARY, after a few observations, tnoved to leave out the clause respecting the granting of licences to' clergymen to hold farms. His object, as we understood him, was to insert a clause for the repeal of the whole of the pmvisions of the statute of Henry VIII. with respect to Clergymen holding brills. This proposition was supported by Mr. Estcourt. A lung conversation ensued, in the course of which Sir ROBERT BUXTON said, he thought it would not tend to make the clergy respeetable to render them farmers. After a few words from Mr. KEENK, the ArToatlEv GENERAL ). _ Mr. BASTARD and Mr. DUDLEY RvissK, Sir WILLIAM SCOTT said; that under the Statute of Henry VI lf. it was scarcely possible fora Clergyman to re side in the country at all. He did not see that any dcgrada. tion would accrue to the clerical character from their being engaged in fainting. Ile could not consent however to abo lish all the restrictions of thar'Statute ' and lie thought that all that could he doue was to give a discretionary power to the Bishop, as provided in he present Bill. Mr. WILBERFORCE thought that an application to the Bishop, under the present Bill, ought to be made more a mat ter of notoriety than it would be as it at present stood, in order that it might he opposed, if necessary. The CHANCELLOR of rim EXCLIEQU ER said, that the object of the Bill went very properly to relieve the Clergy from many vexatious disabiliiies. It was well known that in many places there were a variety of comtOrts which the poor could only obtain either trout gentlemen, who perhaps were not resident, or from the Clergymen who were. M. BRAG:GE objeCted toconv.:rtilig the application to the Bishop into a sort of public trial. Mr. WINDHAM said he saw no necessity for any alter ation of the law as it stood at present. .S.:r WILLIAM DOLBEN supported the clause; because he conceivM that it would not in any degree degrade the clerical charaCter, and it would enable Clergymen to make some provision for their tSmilies. Sir 07U/ill/GE/IR Y said, he had heard no arguments to induce him to change the opinion he originally entertain. ed ; he therefore should persist in the motion which he had' made. Sir WM. SCOTT said, he was not apprehensive of any degradation of the Clerical CharaCter, even it a greater re laxation was proposed than that whic.n was given in the pre— sent Bill ; he had therefore been influenced in proposing this Clause, rather by the apprehensions which weic en tertained by other Gentlemen, for whuse opinion he had the highest respect, than by any apprehensions which he entertained himself. He was averse to loading the Bill with that supusabundauce of caution which was proposed, became he was convinced that every purpose would he answered by leaving the juristlieticn where it was proposed by this Bill. T he clause was then agreed to without a division. Upon the clause respecting the leasing out of the great Tythes, Mr. ROSE observed that a Clergyman, by taking a lease of the great tvthea, ought in some instances become a farmer to the amount of 3 or 40061. a ear;y he thought, therefbre, that the clause °not rather to be lett out, or that this!" same restriction ought to be imposed in this, as in other cases. Sir IVAI: .S . OO - 11 - said, that there could be *ea - greater de. gradation of the Clerical Charaler in allowing the resident Curate to take a Lease of the Tythes, than there would be it the Ream* resided on the Living and kept the Tythes - he Clause was agreed to—The Chairman was then or dered to report progress, and to ask leave to sit again. The House being resumed, the.Committce was ordered to sit again on Thursday, and at half past nine o'clock, the House adjourned till to-morrow.. MAILS. DUI. ARRIYILD. French o H.nnburgh 2 . . - PRICE OF STOCKS, THIS DAY AT TV EI,VI O'CLOCK. Consols THE SUN. •OLIM QUIS DICIRt I'ALSUM AUDIIAT 1 LONDON, MAY 4, t ho 3. YESTERDAY Dispatches were received from Paris, upon %bleb a Cabinet Council was imme diately assembled, and the general expedation was, that some Communication would be made to Parlia. went and the Country'. None, however, was made last night. The general belief was, that a hos. tile Manifesto was preparing by His Majesty's Ministers, but this of course could be mere conjec ture, even if such a measure yesterday occupied the attention of the Cabinet Council. We are equally impressed with the hope and the belief, that the end of our suspenie is at hand ; but in the mean time the Public Mind seems now nearly made up to the alternative of War, Judging from appearances, w e have little else to hope for, but at the same time we should think it presumption positively to pronounce till more is known to us. Ministers will no doubt seize with avidity the first moment they can with propriety, to inform Parliament and the Countty of the aduthstate of things. The Funds yesterday partook of the general feel ings, and their fittEluations were considerable. The 3 per Cells. were at one tithe at 65i-, but lac off. pretty much as they had been thc preceding day. LAST night the Paris Papers to the ist inst. and also a Mail from Holland, arrived.--Letters from Coustanamv/e, brought by the latter, completely contraditt the accottnt'given in the itioNitenr, of the English Imving carried away the Cannon and all the Military Stoics from Alexandria; for they state, that the place was given up by the English in the best possible state of defence; are nappy to nnti, the lICC , OIIIITS TIOM Stotk'hotas, that; according to our anticipation; the misunderstanding which had atisen tetWeen the EatrFROR Of IttY5StA and His Svirsbisti MAiEsit; is likely to be terminated in an.amitable manner. The French Funds were on the auth at 53.-53. IT is no confession of weakness on the part of His Majesty's MiniSters to admit, that by the junelion of certain Persons, the Administration would be strengthened ; and we are convinced, frcitn what we know. of their charaaers, that there is scarcely one among• them who wishes to hold his Office, unless be thinks he can hold it with advan tage to the Country—at least, we are sure that this sentiment prevails with those who are at the Head of the Administration. It is not, however, on talents alone ppon which depends the formation of a strong Government. It must be composed of men seeing the interests of the Nation in the same point of view, and steadily pursuing the same objeds. Nobody doubts the abilities of Mr. Fox ; but the great majority of the Nation, judging from his Speeches in Parliament, think, we believe, his domestic system would be dangerous to the tranquillity of the Country, and his foreign system marked by abje& submissions to France, which, like all concessions of that nature, would only produce new, extravagant, and, at length, inadmissible demands. Of . Mr. GREY we say nothing, because we consider him as identified with Mr. Fox. Nobody doubts the ability of Lord GR ENV' IL I. E t but there are those, pethaps, who think his SysteM too warlike for the present circumstances and situa_ don of Europe, though we must in fairness admit, that the experience of every day proves too much the truth of some of his prediaions, and the imp - licy of trusting to the pacific dispositions of other Powers. • A System of Energy and Wfxlermion is that which the Country requires. A determination to guard our own Rights, and an equal resolution not to invade those of others, is not Ably' that which. becomes the Charafter of a great -Nation like this, but is ten thousand times more likely to preserve Peace than a System of Concession. Whoever the Men are of the greatest talents in the Country, who would adhere 'firmly to such a'Plan; are the Mea in'whose hands we wish to see united the ministration of the Affairs of this Nation. This, we are convinced, is the opinion of the great mass of the Community r - and we are sure, that in an Administration formed upon such grounds, several •of His Midesty's present Ministers ought to be included. We are very far from meaning to . insinuate, in what we have said, that a system of concession is that which has been :lifted upon by the present Cabi. net, to the moment when a stand appears to have been made upon the question relating to Malta. The case of Ministers is nor yet before the Public— they are as much aware as the Public can wish, that there are various points upon which explanation will be required; they are ready and anxious to give that explanation when the proper rime comes, and all, they desire is, that they m.iy not be prejudged, and that prejudices may not be raised against them unheard. Among the numerous difficulties of the present day, the least certainly is not that which belongs to the management of our financial operations. It is hardly necessary to state what these diflicul. ties would be if War should take place. They are sufficiently tnaoilested by a consideration of the privations to which all in that case must submit. Whoever has to consider the mode of imposing the burdens of War, will have only to chose among great evils. But if we have Peace, will this diflicultY be very tmterially sened ? To extend our Commerce, to keep up or increase our Revenue, to maintain in • Peace such establishments as are sufficient to our security ; to persevere in, perhaps to improve, the system of our Sinking Fund, must be all subjeas of serious- con. sideration, and present no easy undertaking to those who teflen upon these paints : We believe no man in the kingdom so equal to the task as Mr. PITT; but unless he on have all that assistance which he may think most conducive to the success of such an under taking,. the Public cannot feel much surprize that he should he unwilling to attempt it. Yesterday morning, soon after nine o'clock, HIS Majesty, attended L Gen:GWYN anti Col. Fr TZ. Roy, rode in Windsor Great Park, and itispeded the Farms till about one o'clock. Yesterday, a few minutes before twelve o'clock, tint NiAjEs•ty and the Pitirtcessts AtipusTA, ELIZABCTH and MAJLYi arrived at Buckingham House from Wi►►dsor. FIN MAJESTY Liid UM ar rive till about half past three. In the evening TtiO.rtt NbirESTirg had a Con. cent at Buckingham House, which was seleaed . by UI Nl/14ESTY, principally from the Works of H. DEL And CORR HU. I. A .selea party wal invited. The PRINCESSES Sora IA and AmstdA, rcurain at Windsor; PORDS/670U7 ' fijOt' THIS day came into 1-lartioiii to be lriiEl oar , 'fill Majesty's Ship EtrelleAlt, lately Ariivett West I *cries. The fitting the Ships for sea; which arf; oi-de're - rt for commission at this Port, is carried on with ILA greatest diligence. ••• Adniital Sir Ro B ERT CA ID Will hoist his FL on hoard the Prince of Walei, of 98 guns, Cipc:U;i G2FFARR. Lieut. FENNELL is appointed to the Mirrivzczt" Frigate in the Downs. The Colossus, of guns, lately hinched iron! Deptford, dropped :down to 'Woo:wia yerer,tayi for the pinposeof being coppered and prepared lo Sertiee; CORN EXCHANGE, 4. TriER t is little fresh Corn here today, and thii of buyers ; the few saleS made of Wheat are wirh.: out variation; Barley does not came •to hand szi freely as of late, that; with Malc, are ticit lower; Pease, Beans, and Oatsi-much in the same situation some few very fine samples of the latter go ofi' higher than our runnicg prices; notir, at terat3 last quoted. . - , ‘ . , Wheat 46s a 543 a 6os od Tick Roans -27 s a Sts oct Fine ditto -62 i a 63s od Oats - . rss a 18s a 214 Rye . -32 s a 35s od l'olaittl dittei iis a 2.3 s Oa Bade)? .. 20s a 253 ott ' !gape Seed . :, 331 a 36t .Malt - . 4os a .15s 61 Fine Flotti « 43s a ,47s ~..14 White Pease 36s a 4=3 ea SecbmkW - 38$ a -13 4 Beans . 3ar. a 3.55 oci 1 Mr. PITT reached Waliner Castle of Fria,iy afternoon, . where tie found Her Royal HighneSs the Pit INC Ess of \VAL FA, wh") in an excarbion froni Ramsgate had coiled at Widmer Castle, and being infortned that Mr. PITT was expeftedi Waited sorni hours for his arrival: Yesterday morning the third Battalion or the tt•rsi Reg,inynt of Foot Guards, doing ditty at Windsor, had a grand Field-day, in the Little Park, coin. mandeci.by General WINYARIL Priv.re Letters received by the /hack,. /Wad; state, that a general belief prevails in, that Conn.. try of a sp ,- !edy change in its weintrient being in the cO , lternplation of tote CH I E Incensed 'at the wish that has been so unegttivo• cally expus,ed, of Holland preserving a• Neutrality in the event of War between France and this Country, ahil the general disposition which pre. sails there for renewing the antit'nt tics which united us and the Dutch, the CHIEF CONSUL has made a demand of .0,000,c00 of Guilders, Witt has moreover intimated that a great politiCal.change is at hand. The least that is expedied, - is a change of all the Men who at present compost the Bata.; vian Government, but the general apprehension is, that //c/la/rd will be incorporated with -France. On the 9 h ult. two Dutch Ships of the Ling arid a few small Vessels of War sailed from Lisbon; an d op the t7th Admiral Dc WINTER himself sailed. From this separation of his Force, we infer, that the two Ships which sailed on the 9th,; may have returned to the MeditCtratlCittli and that the Admiral himself may be on his way home. Mr Li TON, the English Ambassador; coinotuniz cated on the i7th ult. to the Dutch Government, thtr intelligence of the Evacuation of the Cape. Yesterday the Dispatches for China by the 4!_ fr i t!, were finally closed at the East India House, and delivered to the Purser. On Saturday last an overland express vas reteivea in town from _Bombay, via Bussota. Private letters by this ceinireyance, dated in janUaryi contain a fa vourahle account of the late hostilities in Visiapuur4- It appeals that the whole force of Sc N EFL attacked the main army of HOLKAtt in December, and ob.. rained vidory which is stated to have bten of al very de.cisive nature ; and it was generally belie*: ed that HOLKAR had evacuated Poona, the. capital, of the PRISHW A. The NAii , All.3 lielaCillnentS fortUnitely formed a junflion with the PzimtvA's cavalry. The NAWAB at the Sat Tit time commenced siege of Keerowly; and etteded it large hreac4 in . one of the hattions of the fOrt, ‘V,hich hit troopi were on the point of investing. A deputation has been lent to iClagpoUr, iri induce the Berar, or Eastern Mahrattas to join Set N A'S standard; but the result tit the utessao was nut knowti. The Loan IVIATott. held A Court of Conimori Council at Guildhall yesterday, when Mr. Deputy. lititcgwOOtl was appointed a Mi.irnlier of the Port Conintittee ; in the tuom of C. Esq. de.4 ceased. The ; Loiti Mayor ordered the Assize of Bread tci cotitinue as last vVeek. The deills ,of Lady 14 RANO Mar4Ois of Arielicor,N's 13,iughter, wits occasion ed by anintiammation of the membrane which lino; the wind-pipe, and which vt ry stiticknly produced sutroCation. Die .new Comedy of Mr Marriage :Proviiit, which retains •its hold upon tho Public, was followed last night by Mr, Floott s's pleasant Operatic Farce of No Song no Sopper. The part of illaigatetta was performed by a Miss Ht.- Licrt, whu made her first public appeurance on chi' occasion. She is announced as a Pupil cif Dr. Buss t. Her voile is strong, clear; and of exten sive compass; but not fiery flexible. Het loWee tones are.very poWerfall She did not seem always to be quite in tune, bUt„muth allowance wrght to he made for a first performance. She seems to pos.: SCSI an agreeable countenance, and a tolerable person altogether.. Her detheanuut Was awkward, anti she stn..ke too much to the Autliettet, but there tippet red to be a sense of burnour and improvable spirit in her aling. She sung an nrigirial air very well suited to display the extent of her yoke, brit nut a vet, striking corriposition In this Air she was Encored, and altogether was very favourably received by clue Audience: B,ittattstsa was lively in Robin, but appeared to be suddenly seized by the gont, in dot second Aet, though it did not impair his spirit. On Monday Lord MELVILLE with his usual Hitt., rality, gave a Dance and Supper at his house in Charles.streeti to all his old domestics.