The Sun. — London, England, 1803-07-27 00:00:00

:IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF PEERS, TUESDAY JULY 26. Tire Bills upon the Table were forwarded in their respeaive stages. Among these the London Coal Side bill was read a third time and passed. The new Bisito, s of Exeter and St. David's (Drs. Fisnr.a and Buttons) were introduced with the accustomed formalities, sworn, and took their Seats, The Report 4. theCeneral Defence Bill , was pre. ventedby Lord WALSI WUHAN, and forthwith' taken into consideration, when the Amendments made by the Committee w're confirmed by the . House. On the occasion of the third reading of the Bill, 10orti HOBART proposed several verbal Amendments and one ?ravish, whieh, his Lordship described, would got obviate doubts which had a risen reiped. ing the liability of persons serving in any Volunteer Corps; under' the provisions of this WO:. The Noble Lord then read tbe'Proilso, which in sub. stance enaied, that no persons, as long ai they shall ear,tinue ellici,rot Members of Volunteer Corps, accepted by Ilia Majesty, shall be liable to serve in Regiments of the Line, Fencibles, or Militia Corps, &C. . Thl6 Proviso Ming agreed to, the Bill'was pa%seil i and ordered to be sent to the Commons for their concurrence to the Amendments. • After a short, interval, Mr. A Lit xAwn r attend. ed by several Memberv, returned the General. De, fence Bill, with the acquiescence of she,Conxmons to Amendments.the ' . After disp4ting of some routine business, their Lordships adjotirnM 1111 'to:morrow, when it pro. posed the ltnyal Assent shall be give) by Commis. seen to the General Defence Bill, and to a , few other Ads. HOUSE OF COMMONS, TtligDAY,' JULY '26. The Order of the Day was read, fur the third reading of the volunteer Corps Bill. Several IIeW,CIAtISCS were then proposed and agreed to, and the Bill v,,,3 read a third time and passed. Mr. VA 1.1 SITTA a'r brought) np Reports of the. Commit. tea of Supply, and Ways and Means : the Resolutions were then read and agreed to, and the Bills were ordered to be brought in. The CHANCY.' tot of the Eicerttrausit observed,, that the two millions tnie faindred thousand pounds, added to the touemillion already granted, .might be taken as the amount of the growing produce of the Consolidated Fund, to the sth lanuaiy, 1 8 04. Mr. At. tXANDta brought sip the Report of the Stipendi ary Curatc; Big : the amendments were read and agrdd to, and the further consideration of the Report postponed till Thursday next. Sir Wu. goor r postponed the Committee on the Achill. laity Court Bill, till Thursday next. • The ATTORNLT GENERAL moved to. bring in a Bill to rereat part of the ftirmer Alien Mt., The Learned Gentleman observed, he wished to make some alteration with respekt to the power the Magistrate had by the old Bill to commit Aliens to prison : it Waif his intention that Mtgistrates should, on committing an Alien to prison, tranimit to gilvernment,the nature of the commitment ; he trusted the 'measure he recommended to the wisdom o f s h e Hcose, would prevent : the necessity' of sus. pending the Habeas Corpus Aft,, as it wits hi% wish not to adopt any measure that would abridge the liberties of the People.,—Leave granted. The ATTORNEY CTE'NERJ“. moved for leave to bring in . a 'Bill for the better regulation of the Pilots of Deal anti •Dover, after a 'short' explanatiop of their ,present and former situation, leave was granted to bring in a Bill. The Justices Bill was read a third time. - A eon.: veraation then rook place between Mr.Gruts, Mr. Liycasren, anti several other }ion:Gentlemen, on a clause proposed by Mr. BURTON, after which the c l ause w as nose and agreed to, and the Bill paced. A Messoge from the Lords stated that their Lord. ships had agreed Ui the City Quota 13111, the City Coal Market Bill, the Clergy Residence . Mistak e Bill, end the Bill for building a tiew Theatre at ,Gasgow, without any amendments. The Orik.nce Bill was also agreed to with several atoL:oti. men ts. The Cuithtett.l.ok Of the EXCHEQUE4 ,moved Cut the amendments made by the Lonlb' in the Dc. ier?ce Dill he taken into constderation, The first Clause ieml, goes to exempt those per. sous fern Volunteer Service, whose age of children place them in the fuuith class of the Bill. The next Clause is to this effect-..that no perc,n who serves in a Volunteer Coro accepted by Majesty, will be liable to serve Army or Militia. Some trifling, arney:clic.qot , , also read, which are not worth qv! M r , BAR HAM said, he virlihr:i attentioi; of the House with i,-speri. I ties on Sugir, which. had been i l a bi ,4 0 Mt. It might be asked 'why he .10 bill to go through the House without ipvl It hit oppo , itiOtt ? Ms answer was, that tben before the llouse contained many pro Vi. 610f14 he 1144 no Objeetion so, therProve he thought it bttter at a future time to move far leave to bring in a till to repeal the ohjedionable part of the f unrier on. His nhicelion was to the heavy duties laid on Sugar ; he ah,to thought it his duty to ob. terve, that sorne t h ings had been said in the House by the Right Hon. the 6 1ANceLt.ott of the Ex.. ciiNtigk with fzipat to the state of the West India Trade that were not true, The Right Hun, the CHANcEta.ott of the Excilmattta had stated, that Sugar would bear the tax levied by the late Bill, and dor could bear a greater tax, This was not the cases the West India Planter already paid ti's. in the pound, which , he considered a treat hat&hip on them. He roold'aflirm that the Taxes levied on them were not equal, and therefore not fair. The moderation of Bonaparte wou ld b e equal to the moderation which has ban strewn by this Government to the West India Planters, The Hon. Gentleman observed, that there 'was no way for a Planter to withdraw his property onee ern. barked in War India trade without a COOtitittshie 104'4, therefore he was obliged to sufS:r. any T ax levied upon kiln.. Men born in afflueneq. h a d now a dismal prospret before them. The lionolirvhie 0, 11 14 , 11 1;m then went into a long detail or 11. e Du'. ties on the West India produce, and concluded by moving, 'That the House do , tesolvc itself into ?)1, a Committee of the whole House on Thursday neat, to confider of the Duties laid on Sugar, &c. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHRO.OR observed, that this was an unusual cburse of object. ing to a parliamentary measure adopted for the sup. port of the Revenue, namely, that of suffering it to pass into a Law, and afterwards to come forward 'with a Motion' for its repeal, and therefore he trusted the House would pause before it assented to the Motion now before it. He then proceeded to an. swer the general arguments of the . Hon. Gentleman Who had brought' this subjed forward. He said that the price of Sugars had increased not less than, res. in the hundred weight lately, and yet there' was no diminution in the consumption. It had been At 33, and was now 48, a 'price at which it had been admitted by the policy of the country that the exportation *Weld cease. This was the price at which Sugars hatt arrived at the moment he watt speaking ; for this day Sugars had been sold at thii price, and this notwithstanding all the embaerass. mente stated by the Hon. Gentleman to have been throWn in the way of the sale of Sugar by the last Duty on that article. , During the last War s and a considerable part of it, thn Duty on Sugar was zos. now 245. the price of Sugar was not less than ps. per hundred weight more then than at present, ter it was then Bos. per hundredweight ; and what was the state of the market at that period ? Was there uny proof that the sale was diminished ? or ' that the consumption was less ? Certainly not. Certainly it was just, to charge Foreigners with a proportion of the burdens on tbe•consuroption of an ' article of our Colonial preiltice l and it was cer. tele that the experience of the last War did not justify the 'complaints of some of the Planters upon this occasion, bur, on the contrary, only contra. difted them, for it appeared that during. the last War,- when sugars, were greatly, higher in 'rice, and almost double what they are now, the con sumption, instead of diminishing, increased, and that too. when the necessaries of life .were at an higher price than they had ever been known to be, either before or since ; and although sugar' was not strial y , a necessary, but migh t , w i t ho ut he di.emed a luxury of life ; under these circumstances he thought he ryas entitled to assert, that the additional duty of qw. acre imposed, would not produce an tired which was not, produced on a . former occasion. . No one.conld witilethat the con.: turner should be indulge 4„ at the expellee of the Planter in the West Indiea, but in asserting that the' duty now its posed could not have the of :et of 'producing the evil complained of by the Planters, ' he was justified; for when tie price was nearly dciuble what it is now, there was no diminution of ' the consumption of the .Article. But as to the ob. , jetlion which had been taken to ;he mode of posing the present duty. it had been recommended to impose a duty ad "valorem. This matter had been under the , consideration of many persons who were most capable of forming an opinion upon it, and they had tecommended the present mode under all the circumstances. It was said that the poor consumer pititi as high a duty in this cage for the article he purchased as that which was paid by the consumer of the finer article, that the. present dUtY was as high on' sugar of the lowest •pt that of the highest price. He admitttd this to he a thing to be lamented. He iegretted that, in, conieeuence of the various hands through which artic.es pass before they,can come to the poor consumer, and the profit derived heaven!), as well as the Very means by which the poor were supplied, they were made to pay a bigher price for every thing they ettrcha'e, than the richer classes of the community he' re gretted' this very much, hut that evil was not pe. culiar to sugar, it was the case with respeet to all the articles of:life; and the effect of the Situation. in which the poor were placed in society, and could not perhaps, oerteinly not on the sudden, be re. medied, arose from the neome r in which the poor'svere may able'ro buy art icles,beieg ii, sm a ll quantities,and tinder many other circumstances of inconvenience. He was not an advocate for selling to the Poor at a lower rate than to others;. but he could not help thinking thatif we could diminish the number of hands through which the arlice:s of life passed to • the Poor,' it might• be a diroside ruble reduftion 'of .the price el them.. But what wathhe effeei of this. • duty in die Weal Indies ? It'had 'been said it would he the ruin of them; so far , from that being the case, the Colonial produce there was extending in a way that was scarcely conceivable. It was stated :situ that the Revenue would be benefited by an a d valorem Duty. Jr was'deiiiable that the ad evalo. rent principle should be adopted, for most unques. tionablY it was the most equitable 'of all prin. ciples, yet there was no point on which there Was a greater variety of opinions than that of the Mode in av•ict; the Duty' should' be imposed on. Sugar, an d th,it fo r various reasons ; a nd tine very considerable reason was on account of the difficulty of preventing tratuis jf the Duty Was taken ad 4>aiorem. H e knew of no means of preventing that but' through the medium of sworn Brokers, and if that system wilt established, it could not he confined:to,Lon. dun, it Intist be adopted alt over the. Country. This was a .übjed which he had considered over and over again, and lie thought that at a future period it may •he well worthy the attention of Parliament; nor would there be any want of disposition on 'the part of Government to adopt that principle, if that could be dune. Now having made these few ob. nervations, he would ask, whether the Honourable Gentleman 'himself would exped, under the present circumstances by which this Country is surrounded, the, House could go into this inquiry, and that when he must know that if entered upon, the House could not, go through it this Session, even if it devoted the whole 'of its attention to it. He thought that the Hon. Gentleman had rather brought It forward with a view to open, as it were, a discuseio t e . the next S e i s i un o f Parliainene. therefore, under a conviction that the Hon. Gentleman had not made out a case of hardship: on the Planters, as he had: stated, and thinking it impossible to pursue this ineiiiry with, effeft this Session, he saw 'no utility in proceeding any further in this Matter now, and therefore he should move, that the other Orders of the_Daybe now read. Sir tr. PULTENLY said, it was impartible to maintain the justice of the present !rapist upon Sugar, because it laid as much Dilly on the artiste in one case as , another, although' is one the value of the. article was double that of the other. That was upon the face of things unjust ; no talents could maintain the justice of it ; the thing was impossible, and therefore the only thing that could be dwelt upon in support of the present measure was. that of the difficulty of imposing a Duty ad valorem. With respeet to the variety of opinions entertained on the subjea, that ought to be no argume nt to t h e C HAN . C Lima of the EXCHRQU ;he ought to form his own, opinion as well as he was able, and then to pursue it to the utmost of his ability ; fur if he * waited until all men agreed in opinion upon any sttlijea, he would never atilt all, nor did he see anr difficulty in having sworn Brokers to give the - price of Shgars, in order to impose an ad valorem Duty. , After some further observations from Mr. LANcmsAD, Mr. MANNINa who disclaimed making use of the influence imputed to him by the Hon. Baronet (Sir W.' PIeLTINZY), Sir W. Puvrtivsv In explanation, the Cu iNcs LLoa of the EXCRLQUIR, Mr. VANS ITTAItT, Mr. GlLis,Mr. CORBY, and Mr. BAaHAst in reply, the latter agreed to withdraw his Motion. The House resolved itself into a Committee, to consider of the Relief to he granted to Curates who 'might lose their Cures by the Residence of Incumbents, undetthe Clergy Residence Bill, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said. he was not disposed to believe that any opposition would be made to the proposition he was about to submit to the. Committee, for the relief of those Curates who might lose their Cures by the operatiotiof the Clergy Residence Bill.'At the same time there were several of that Body Who could nut properly be ob jeds of the liberality of Parliament ; he referred in this WA» sure only to those who would be reduced to real distress by the loss of their Cures. He had made the best inquiries, and he found that a sum as moderate as 8.0001. • would he sufficient for the relief of that distress, which ,he was con viewed would not be denied, as he was satisfied that the Com mittee were desirouS that the Clerical Charader should not be degraded. He did not carry his ideas with respe& to a general System of Relief for the whole Body of the Clergy as some had done, as he thought it ought not to he the policy to admit the means of persons entering upon the exercise of the 'Clerical funaions, unless they were possessed of something besides what they were to derive from those tunelions. He rather thought that something should be done on the principle of Queen Ann's Bounty; for the augmentation of the smaler Livings, and he regretted that some measure Of this kind hail not yet been brought terward; he hoped however it would be a subject of „early' consideration next Session. He concluded by moving fora ' Grant of 8,0001. for the relief of Curates in the situation above alluded to, observing that the apportionment of it might be left to the discretion of the Bishops in theirdiffirent Dioceses,' with some limitation however, perhaps'restriaing it in each case to three-fourths, or two-thirds of the income .previously enjoyed. Atter a few observations from Mr. HAW Tres Bitowtia and Mr. PoLe CAR sty, the motion was agreed to.—Report tounorrow.Mlt • VAIS3 r rArcr moved for an instrudion to make pro. Viiioll , in the Bill respeding the Ditties on Quassia, to authorize the Commissioners of Customs and Excise to sell coodatinied Vessels to private persons, ter the purpose of being fitted out as Privateers. Mr. AaaxArata broit;cht ttp the report of,the East India Shipping 13i 11. —0 rdered tor further consideration to.morrow. The Lords amendments in the , Woellen 'Manufadurers Bill. were ordered to be taken into consideration to-morrow. The Irish I ustices' Bill, the Irish Militia Families Bill, the Prize Goodsliifl, and the Courts Martial Witnesses Bill, were read a third time and passed. Mr. VA:4 S 1 T r presented estimates of the expence of printing the lournils, sec. —Ordered to lie on the table. . • Mr. Co ft s piosented accounts of the number of. Vessels and their- ronnage in the Ports of Ireland.--Ordered to lie on the Table anti to he printed. The further Consideration of the report of the Civil List was ordered fot Friday. The further consideration Of the report of the Income TRX Bilk was deferred till to-morrow. The Scotch Army of Reserve Mistakeßill was read a se. cond time and committed fur to-morrow, ' Adjourned at halt' past eight 6.11 to-morrow. MAILS. DUX, Hamburglt . . 0 PkIC E OF STOCKS, Tut& DAY Ar Twittva O'CLOCK. Consols - - 52.6 it I Oinn. , dis. THE SUN. soLam QuIS D CZ ti titlaium •uoitar LONfION, yuLy 2 7 , 1803. THE Bill for Arming: the Nation was yesterday passed in the House of Lords,• and 'the Commons afterwards agreed to snore 'Amendments which the Upplto House had made in it, and it will this day 41,ite the Royal Aslant by COmmission.' Not a moment, we are satisfied, *Will be lost in carrying it into execution. Ministers have wisely adopted the suggeitions of Col. CRAUFORD in the 11,..u5t of Commons, so ably supported by Mr. Ptrr, and aline of Field Fortifica. ;ions will be drawn round London,in case of necessity, which will render 'it secure from every hosti!e'vat. tempt. This Plan was formed during the, lastWari under that able and experienced Oificer,Sir DAV 1 D DUNIiAS. Such preparations will be made as will enable, the population of the Capital and the adja., cent Distrlets to, throw up these , Linesln a very allot period. We have no right - to' . despise or neeett any precaution'that can add to our means of Defence—Let us persevere in the spirit and adivity that now happily pervade the Country, and. Vidory is ensured to us. YE'sTRRDAY tt Meeting was held upon the Royal Exchange, of the MiaciANTll/ BANKERSi and TRADE its of the Metropolis, and a more numerous and truly respedable Meeting was never' held in any City in the known world. Mr, JA. ca BBANQUET was called t o t h e Ch a i r, and addressed the Meeting in a most animated and ?patriotic Speech. A DECLARATION was proposed, and adopted by acclamation, declaratory of the Sentiments of the Meeting, which cannot fail to be read by the whole Country with appro. bation, and which is calculated to produce the most salutary and inspiriting effeds. While it will feed the glorious Rime of enthusiasm that :now pervades%the whole Empire, it will convince the Corsican . Despot that the Charader of a Bri. tiah Trader is of a different nature from what he would represent it. It will show him, that at the same time that . British Merchants are em, ployed in the honourable pursuits of Commerce, they m cherish a Patriotis, and possess a Military Spirit, which Freemen only can feel. A detailed account of the Meeting, and the Declaration adopt ed by it, will be found in other parts of our Papa. . . . ~ . . . YesterdAy morning His MAJESTY and the Pang MI SOPHIA ' attended, by Lord .Sr. HELENS OBCr COIOtIeI.MANNINCRAM, _rook an airing on horse back by Cranboutn Lodge, .and through the woods by St. Leonard's Hill. HER MAJESTY and the Princesses AUCILISTA ELIZABETH, and AMELIA, atteuded by the Poun d tenses Ayusnußy, RADNOR, and Lady SuDLEY, took an airing in a phaeton and sociable, .through • the'woods• and Plantations by Virginia Water. • Yesterday Morning the Statrordshire Militia had a grand field.day in Windsor Lirtle Park, at the early hour of five o'clock. . , - The ROYAL TAmti.y, and the same numerous astemblage of NobilitYas on Sunday night, walked, on the Terr a c e on Monday evening. His Royal Highness the CommArrnea. intftles judging it proper that the Troops in the Southern District} should be encumbered with uO other baggage than what is absolutely necessary, has ordered that all the heavy baggage of Individuals find Corps s hould be immediately sent to the following Tines in the rear of the distrid:"Major.Generali STAY EL EY and CAXTWIL !CRT'S Brigades to Dartford—Major.Gee neral WYNYARD'S Brigade nerals Foes si and MOORZIE ditto to ravesend - ' the West Kent to Maidstone...4lle East Kent to Lenham—and the Nottingham Militia to Goa hurst —Major-General THoirrrotes to Major -Generals Hun N: , ON anti WNW" . 13tigades' •the - t th Light Drago , n s, to, , T9n" liridge2Major-General NNOX.E U r i ga dc, and the . kith Light Dragoons, w Horsham... Mr. LYE ) of Bath, has offered' to f6rnish. So tilted waggons, and xso horses, in case of invasion• The Bristol Volunteers amount to upwards of eleven hund r ed men . A C amp , cons a r i ng ro j ooo men, is to be formed on Leigh Down, Herr Bristol. • On Sunday last- a very .numisrous and reipenahlis Meeting was held in . the Parish Church of Gre.lig Waltham, in Essex, itnmedidtely after . Divine Set• vice; foil The piirposeoVeriiolling the mi me o of such men as chose to come forward with an offer. of their services to defend the Country„at this alarnlint crisis. The names of about ioo men were diately enrolled to serve as Infantry, and snow O W ( Men as Cavalry, in - addition. to the second Door' Es%ex Yeomanry, commanded by Capt. YtieraLl' Similar 'proceedings' rook place on the same in several :Parishes of Surrey, Hertford, and Berl . and the same loyal spirit e ver y where animige both old and yonng, who ch eer f u lly came lotwof"A to offer their services at this critical junttUte• The inhabitants of St, bilesTs and St. Oeor4e% Bloomsbury, have tilniveci to farm . theptselves Inno such classes as may unite neighbours in the'cliacre! Parishes ; a resolution 4.llich appear s to dct,t w'fl 'universal approbation. Governm-nt has refused to 'accept the services of the Temple Association. In case of an In vasion theY wished to stipulate that their services'tnight not h e commanded beyond the distance o f to m il es from the Metropolis, • Yesterday the following Shipti were .ordered into Commission at Plymouth', viz. ' Triton - . 32, guns, Capt. CAITIMAN. CitiWets - . , •.I4 guns, Capt. $ i r Wu. floL.ro:4. Suftisante -'. ' 1 4 Suns, Cain', 13 sAfii co-r E. Hecate . Lieutenant PA asoN 5 • . Rorer Gun-boats Lieut.:oam l' a I et. • Fearless • , ' Lieutenant WlLLtxsts• The PRINCE of Wl.tats and' a.large party of the higher' circles, were last night at Lady HuNt.oCK III - 1 in Albemarle-street. The Duke and Dutchess of B1114(3110 1141%4 re. turned to their delightful mansion at Woburn. The Wfarcittii IfiADFORi Stt Off OTI Monday II!, for Ireland, in order to assume the command of g p4 county of Meath Yeomanry. The Dowager Lady KAILROWIIY has arrived Town fro m Bath. The late I...ord's reii4nce i° Park: . street is 'settled upon her Ladyship for life. Lord and Lady F. SrENCes. ate gone t 0,.. join a , large- party o f t h e F as hi ona bl e World at Oxfor d Races, which are to commence this day. Lord and Lay stuss..-114.weAttft,Lotulon ( t it their scat at Lowther Hall. Miss HAcapasrorr, the elegimt and accomplis daughter n f SiI — QACNAIIY'HAGGERSTON, is toILI tP be on the eveof picsenting het. hand to Sir T l ioto' STANLEY.. • The Duke and Dutchess of RUTLAND arc at voir 'Castle,. in which they are rnalung great k"" prover:tient,. i Repnifiays, 'that the prOplsed matrioto ei iatike..bomasiamLatty • W A Mt . _,„HollP : and Mr. Ml'Lit Es, of York s li rc , is not t° place. - Yesterday a Court of Aldermen was held I Guildhall, when severa l R eSo l ut i ons i n resre' 4 bi, forming the Volontetr - Corpa of the City into visions, w ere u n an im ously ag r eed to, (for w U it see the front of the Paper). 101 The price of Bread continues the same 0 week: / Twinsted H a ll, t h e elegant an d d e li g htfu l gitlfhte - titthelatrSir JANtG IVlARitorr, week brought to the Hammer, and sold for the ',i„ of 25,7001. exclusive o f Timber, Cro p s , a nd ture. Edinburgh Races have been very thinly sttel" this year—lndeed this was to be expeticd , a l in many. Gentlemen are more latid.ibly the arma m e nts prepar i ng in their respedive ‘-' t o t ties and Towns. The places Of public amuselo prospered but badly, and the Races were veil different. ~i a Mr. PITT has taken so zealous a part in the a t` rangement of' the syst e m f or t he N a tionid Ock n ' oe and'has re n d ere d so much important service in .1 improvement of it, that thou gh Mr. AnotrlGl" 0,1 is the (Aid, the former i s distinguished by title of the e 1 dent Minister-