The Sun. — London, England, 1844-06-21 00:00:00

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. N AVA L ,REVIEW.—We understand that, upon the occasion of his Majesty the King of the French's visit to this country, which is now finally arranged for the first week in September, a grand naval review will take place in the presence of her Majesty the Queen and her august visitor. As the flag ships of the Port-Admirals, and the experimental squadron, forming altogether 16 or 17 sail, will be cruising in the channel at this period, there will not be the least difficulty in accomplishing it. The ships which will then be at sea, will be the St. Vincent, 120, flag-ship, Admiral Sir Charles R ow l e y, C a pt. R. RRowley ; Caledonia, 120, flag-ship, Admiral Sir David Milne, Capt. A. Milne Camperdown, 104, flag-ship, Tice-Admiral Sir J. C. White, Capt. F. Martin ; Albion, flag-ship, Rear-Admiral Sir H. Pigot, Capt. Nicholas 9e, . Lock :ver; Collingwbod, 80 flag•ship7Rear-Admiral Sir Geor e Seymour, c apt. H. Ed en ; Queen, 110, Capt. Fox, 42 , Capt. to R. Black wooded cor vettes Sir Chg; Ama won Sullivan;and *Dazdt2, frigates ra Daedalus, • n o Fish, Mutine, D ar i ng. Osprey, and Espiegle, new guns ; Cr u i ser, 16, Pan taloon, 10, Water , CL:tsSrtreilgi: of 1 12 10, and a numb er of steam vessels. The Queen, 120, Captain Sir Charles Sullivan, will be paid off at Portsmouth, and . not at Sheerness, as reported. She will be refitted immediately for comniissioney, and will form one of the experimental squadron. We be lieve she is to be the flag-ship at the Nore, instead of ;the Camperdown, which will be paid off. She has not yet arrived, but is hourly expected. The Apollo troop. ship, Commander W. Maclean, has arrived at Devonport from Quebec, with the service c_ to panies of the 68th Regiment. She is since reported have arrived at Portsmouth. The six iron steam-boats, building by contract for the use of the Government as dispatch boats, are getting on \very rapidly towards completion, and will be ready for (launching in a few weeks. The Cygnet, 10, Commander H. Layton, sailed from Avortsmotith on Monday, for the African coast. Two line-of-battle ships will be commissioned in a few days, and, if completed in sufficient time, will join the el perim ental squadron. One of them is intended to relieve the Ilk 'ttrious, 72, flag-ship, Vice-Admiral Sir Charles Adam, L'sptain J. E. Erskine, which is to return to Eng land, a s te....period of the Gallant Admiral's command pxpire a few weeks. We hear that the Vanguard I'll be one of: , Olt vessels commissioned. The Formid;.'b4, 84, Captain G. F. Rich, with the Hag of Vice-Adra trAl Sir Edward Owen, is the only line of battle ship now in the Mediterranean. a 'he Firefly, surveying' steamer, Captain Beachy, sailed yest e vday for the Irish Channel, to resume her survey- Jag du ties. There is no truth in the report that she was destine, for Tangiers with dispatches. The Waterwitell was brought to Portsmouth, on ;SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. GLOBE.---Sir Robert Peel has the same sort of mas tery over his party as Napoleon h a d over S pa i n. He has, with the aid of the veteran Commander in-Chief of Toryism, the military possession of the country ; and as he holds it with certain Napoleonite pretensions of removing antiquated abuses, and introducing the spirit of the age, he cont r i ves to w i n over, or to neutral i se, auxiliaries from the ranks of his natural opponents. With these appliances and aids to boot, we have seen the Minister barely maintain the field on days of pitched battle ; but his moral position in his seemingly con quered territory exposes him to a more exhausting and harassing warfare. The intervals between those en gagements, where the whole nominal dominion is at stake, are filled up with guerilla encounters, cutting off stragglers, endangering supplies, &c. Thus the forces of the Napoleon of Downing -street are frit tered away in detail ; and day by day he loses the ground hardly achieved by the right of conquest. Sir Robert Peel has to learn, like Napoleon, that moral forces are three parts in four of victory. We believe, indeed, he has by this time learned it; and that none despair of his ministry more than he does. But without under-rating the obstacles any ministry bas to contend with, it appears to us that the Prime Mi nister himself has been the great author of his own instability. He may talk of combinations against him; but there is a single uncombined letter in the alpha bet which has been more fatal to him than all the combinations we hare seen against or for him. What is the moral position of a Minister, whose nominal dominion of his party is not only broken up by the hostile guerilla bands we see it split into (and of which the " Vestries" debate of last night afforded another specimen), but whose position is one of aloofness and separation even from his own colleagues ? If Sir R. Peel were Lord Chatham, this position might be maintainable. Under a popular Constitution, a Minister may stand separate from all parties, and even from his own nominal associates in power, provided he strikes strongly some new or revived chord of national feeling, and appeals, clearly and intelligibly, to some recognised symbol of patriotic faith. Undoubtedly there are crises at which the public will support a Minister who throws himself on its support—and support him none the less willingly because he seems to discard mere party symbols. But then he must do this in the full and fer vent pursuit of nobler than party objects. Party attach ments may be fused its the heat of a more ardent patriot ism ; but party attachments have themselves a heat more generous than mere personal circumspection. The public may support a Minister—granted —who ceases to be a party man, because his party feelings are absorbed in aspirations at grand national objects. But what can the public make of a Minister, who does not melt all parties in his nobler heat, but chills and splits to pieces his own party by his benumbing coldness ? A Minister should be more than a party man—granted—but Sir Robert Peel appears less—less by all the inferiority of circumspect and circumscribed self-regard to the more expansive and generous, if not unalloyed, sympathies of party connection. STANDARD.—The rumours of a resignation of Ministers, poured forth in such unsparing profusion from Brooks' and the Reform Club, on the last Sabbath, have produced an effect, we imagine, little gratifying to their authors. Everywhere that the story obtained a mo ment's credit, the resignation was heard of as a national calamity by the majority of the people, the few who seemed to hear the news with satisfaction or indifference were the old and avowed enemies of order. Among the Conser vatives the feeling was uniform ; even the most spiteful, vindictive, and sordid of the disappointed who profess to hold Conservative principles, were obliged to con. fess, in the words of their proper organ, the Dublin Evening Mail, that " the result must be disastrous." The Whigs who set the fiction going have had a useful lesson from their experiment. In all the speculations to which the supposed retirement of Sir Robert Peel gave birth, no one dreamed of resorting to them for a Ministry. The Duke of Buckingham and Chandos, Lord Ashley, the Duke of Richmond, were in succession spoken of as called, or likely to be called, to form a Government; but no human being ever suggested a Whig. In the grave procession of public men, paraded in i:nagination for the selection of a Govern yaent—they were not found, or found only as objects of contempt. The Conservative leaders were summoned in succession by popular surmise; but as for the tiV hiss, their position was such as the great poet has described :- 6' Even so, with much more contempt, men's eyes Did wow' upon them. None cried, 4 Heaven save you!' No joyful tongue gave them a welcome home; But dust was thrown upon their luckless heads, Which with such gentle sorrow they shook off. Tunir faces combating with tears and smiles— The badges of their grief and patience— That had not Heaven for some strong purpose steeled The hearts of men, they must perforce have melted, And Latharism itself have pitied them. .But Heaven bath a hand in these events." We ourselves felt some tender emotions towards the Whigs, but then came the rude reflections, so fatal to compassion — they brought it all upon themselves ; and it is necessary w the public good that they for ever wither and waste upon the ginixt they - have raised for themsel% es —poor fellows ! Another etit,gt that has been produced by the experiment, is a demonstration of the manifest "s.lsehood of all that the whole Whig-Radical press, and too . l arge a portion of the professing Conservativ e p ress , have b ee -1 saying for the last two years, of delusions , ne cessarily by _the present , Government, in order cessarily rest): delusion can now exist . as to the to obtain office. 0 , Sir l e t... eel and his friends propose principles upon whici; th is cootry. Farmers, West to administer the affairs ot Indians, the people generally,nort know pezfectly what they are to expect from the Right Hon. f.'ironet fitthe head of the Government ; and with this fulness of 1"1"Tledge; they all regard his possib!e removal as the gi Tatest of public calamities, as an event fraught with "the n;.2't disastrous" consequences. Can there then be a doubt that if, with the knowledge of 1844, they had to make the choice of 1841, they would repeat that choice ? What necessity, then, existed three years ago for practising a delusion ? We have twenty times shown that no delusion was, in fact, practised by the Conservative leaders, though we are far from saying that vain and greedy men did not delude themselves in their expectations from the change of 1841, as such men are always deluding themselves ; but here is one proof worth a thousand, that no delusion was practised, fur here is evidence that no delusion was necessary, and a public man must be much more raw Shan Sir Robert Peel, who will unnecessarily multi ply the expectations of his party, to be afterwards charged upon him as debts of peremptory obligation. Whoever will read the speeches of Sir Robert Peel, from 1835 to 1641—indeed, during the whole Whig- Radical administration—with candour and with care, will see that there is nothing against which he through out so carefully guards himself as the being thought committed to all the objects of all his supporters, in their full extent. This, we know, has been imputed to him as unworthy craft, but it is nothing of the kind—it is plain dealing, prudent honesty—precisely the same simple honesty which prevents men incurring pecuniary debts, without a prospect of being able to discharge them, or otherwise raising what are called false hopes. Sir Robert Peel could not prevent vain and greedy and foolish men cheating themselves, but he was careful to undeceive them as far as he could do so, and he took care that they should have no excuse for accusing him as an accessory in the fraud practised by t h emselves upon them selves. But again, says our Contemporary, Sir Robert Feel cheated the agriculturists by placing Sir Edward Knatchbull in his Cabinet. This fraud at least did not help the Premier to office—for he must have held office before he could practise it ; but this way of talking is extremely silly. Why should not Sir Robert Peel place a friend of the agricultural interest in his Cabi net, when he has, in effect, proved himself the best friend of the agriculturist? Was the Minister who has for ever excluded the spoliation scheme of a " fixed duty," to declare war upon the agriculturists, and excite their distrust by excluding every agriculturist from his Cabinet? We need not, we believe, say more of the effect of last Sunday's experiment in extinguishing for ever the story of a delusion practised on Conservatives. the Conservatives have given abundant proof that no d e Nsion was practised, or was necessary. Tuesday, from Cowes, by the Echo steamer, to be masted and fitted for sea. The Prometheus, 5, steam sloop, Commander Hay, sailed from Portsmouth, on Monday, for the coast of Africa. She is to touch at Tangiers with dispatches for the British Consul. The Dee, steam troop ship, Master Commander T. Driver, has left Chatham, for Cork, with the depot of the 77th Regiment, under the command of Major Kelly. The Pantaloon, 10, has been taken out of dock at Portsmouth, and has received her masts. The Sydenham, steam-vessel, Lieutenant D. Mapleton, has been taken into dock. She is to have only two masts, instead of three. Her mizen mast is to be taken out, and her mainmast shifted further aft, in consequence of its being placed too near the funnel. INSTITUTION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS. RINE 18.—The President in the chair. A paper by Mr. Braidwood, superintendent of the fire brigade, gave the results of his experience as to the best means of rendering large supplies of water available in cases of fire, and on the application of manual power to the working of fire-engines. The author stated that if water could be obtained at an elevation, pipes with plugs, or fire-cocks on them, would be preferable to any mode at present in use ; and when this could not be obtained, and the premises were of value, it would be advisable to erect elevated tanks, to be kept constantly charged. When water could be obtained, however, at not less than twelve feet below the level of the premises, if it was not thought prudent to erect elevated tanks, it might be conducted beneath the surface by cast-iron pipes, with openings for introducing the suction pipes. The system of covered tanks the author believed to be the least advantageous mode of supplying water ; and in many cases, where the supply proceeded from large reservoirs, he thought it would be better to place plugs or firecocks on the water-pipe. The results of a series . of experiments were given, showing that the idea of extinguishing fires by jets from water-mains, without the use of fire-engines, would not succeed. They also proved the necessity of placing the plugs on the mains, and not on the service-pipes, where that could be done. The details were then given of the mode of obtaining water from pipes or mains, and the ad vantages or disadvantages both of the plug and firecock were fully entered into. The author then stated that the best mode of using manual power was by applying the greatest aggregate amount of power to the lightest and smallest machine ; that the reciprocating motion was to be preferred to the rotary ; and that a fire engine with two 7-inch cylinders and 8-inch stroke, weighing 17i cwt., was the most advantageous size that could be adopted. In the discussion which ensued, Mr. James Simpson approved Mr. Braidwood's general views, but combated his ideas as to the disadvantages of sunk tanks, which he contended had been proved in certain situations to be es sentially useful, and that they were provided in many public establishments. He stated that to the Dutch, who arrived with King William in 1688, we were indebted for the first organised system for extinguishing fires ; many parts of their system still remained, and in Cape Town in 1817, he had been much struck with the com pleteness of their plans. He examined into the supplies of water for fires, and the modes of obtaining them, and thought that more wat er was was t e d th roug h the gene ral excitement and want of presence of mind than was generally imagined. He recommended the use of screw cocks, rather than plug cocks, as the latter were apt to become set and to be injured, as well as having in gene ral too contracted a waterway. He also disapproved of the use of jets directs from the mains, stating them to be wasteful, and not efficient, and that in almost every case they had failed, except under very peculiar circum stances. In the paper by Mr. Andrew Murray, Assoc. Inst. C. E. (Royal Dockyard, Woolwich), the author con sidered in the first portion, the quantity of atmospheric air chemically necessary for the complete combustion of a given quantity of coal, examining the proportion necessary for the inflammable gases, and for the solid carbon ; showing the large excess of air that would 139 required if the gases were not ignited until they had passed into th e flues of the boiler, on account of their admixture with the carbonic acid gas generated in the furnace. The question of the velocity with which the produc!s of combustion pass off was next considered. The practical recommendations given in the paper were, that the supply of air should be as free as possible the entrance into the ash pit should not be less than one fourth part of the area of the fire grate ; the depth o the ash pit should be about t , vo-and-a-half feet, no advan. tage being found to result for the combustion of the coa from its - being deeper ; the space betwee❑ the fire bars should be seven-sixteenth inch, but that depth should be regulated by the kind of coal used ; for any kind of coal it should not be less than -I inch, nor more than inch ; the fire-bars . were re. commended to be made as thin as was consistent with their required strength, an inch in width had been found to be a good proportion. The space in the furnace above the fire-bars was reccmmended to be made large, about three cubic feet to each superficial foot of fire grate, when such an amount could be obtained. The proper area of the flue was next considered, with refer ence to the bulk of the products of combustion and their velocity, showing that the area requisite for the quan tity chemically required was found to be much too small, and that in practice it should not be less than two square inches for the products of combustion from each pound of coal consumed in the grate per hour. Taking a fur nace in which 13Ibs. of coal were burned on each square foot of firegrate per hour (which was stated to be a very usual rate of combustion in steam-boilers), the area of the flue to every superficial foot of the grate would be 26 square inches. The area of the chimney was recommended to be three. fourths of that of the flue. The mode of conducting the flue to the chimney and the angles formed in its passage, were also carefully considered. The time occupied by the gases in passing t hrough th• flues of a boiler, from the instant of their generation to that of their reaching the chimney, was shown not to be of importance, provided that the incan descent gases were so subdivided that all the particles were brought into contact with the boiler, and were made to part with their caloric, as was the object in the construction of locomotives and other tubular bodies. The amount of heating surface recommended was in the proportion of 18 square feet to each foot of fire-grate, where the combustion was carried on at the rate of 131bs. per square foot per hour, though a larger amount might be employed in land boilers, where there was no objec tion against cooling down the products of combustion in a greater degree. The principles were stated to be applicable to all kinds of boilers used either for land or for marine purposes. The following papers were announced to be read at the meeting of Tuesday, June 25, when the monthly ballot for members will take place : No. 689. " Suggestions for the introduction of con structions to retain the sides of deep cuttings in clays or other uncertain soils." By Professor Hosking. No. 690. "Description of the harbour of Scarlet (Caithness), and of the machinery used in 1834 for re building the harbour works." By J. Bremner, M. Inst. C. E. No. 693. "Description of a Piling Engine, proposed to prepare foundations for harbours and lighthouses on sand-banks." By J. BrQmner, M. Inst. C. E. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, June 20. TIIE BARON DE BODE V. THE QUEEN, ON A PETITION OP RIGHT. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) The Learned Counsel having concluded his opening speech, several witnesses were called to prove the statements made by him, and a variety of documentary evidence was put in and read, which occupied the Court until five o'clock, when it adjourned. The case for the Baron de Bode will be continued this day. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, June 20. (Middlesex Sittings at Nisi Prins before Lord Chief Justice Tusnat, and a Special Jury.) THOMAS V. DUNN. This action was brought by the plaintiff to recover from the defendant, the proprietor of the Chinese Exhibition, com pensation in damages for the breach of an agreement, by which he agreed to give him six guineas a week for the su perintendence of the exhibition so long as the exhibition should continue in existence. The defendant pleaded, first, that the alleged agreement was a forgery ; secondly, that it had been superseded by a subsequent agreement ; and, thirdly, that it had been ob tained from him by fraud and coven. Mr. Dunn is proprietor of the Chinese Exhibition, at Knightsbridge ; the plaintiff a gentleman who has for many years been connected with public exhibitions in this country. According to the plaintiff's evidence, Mr. Dann, who is an American, came to England in 1841, and being anxious to exhibit the Chinese articles which he had purchased during a residence in China, and had been exhibited for some time previously at Philadelphia, and being unacquainted with the mode of carrying out his object, applied to Mr. Catlin, the proprietor of the American exhibition, at the Egyptian Hall, with whom he was acquainted, to recommend him some person who had a knowledge of such, to make the necessary arrangements, finding a suitable building, and carrying out the other measures requisite to render the undertaking suc cessful. This led to the connection with Mr. Thomas. The case, on the part of the defendant was, that the agree ment was a forgery, and a variety of facts was adduced to prove it. It was admitted that the plaintiff had been em ployed as agent by the defendant in order to make the first arrangements for the erection of the building, and to super intend all the out-door matters connected with the exhibi tion, after it was opened; but it was denied that he was to be the superintendent of it, inasmuch as Mr. Langdon, who bad been in China with Mr. Dunn, and had been the curator of it in Philadelphia, had been engaged, and had proceeded to kngland with Mr. Dunn to superintend it here. And in order to sh ow th e ex t reme i mpro b a bi l i ty of the agreement aver having been given, seve ra l l e tt ers were pu t i n, wr i t t en ruhad been by the plaintiff to the d e f en d an t, a ft er h e a ll ege d t h e agree ent I:4e plaintiff gned and delivered ove r t o hi m . called several lithographers, in reply, to prove that the signatures were in a natural hand-w r iti ng , an d th a t it was impo ss ibl e any _tracing could ha ve t a k en pl ace , as they did not correspo nd , o the one case :than the so ot rn he e r, of a t U h d e slopedletters re in The LORD CHIEF JUS TICE summed up, and said that the s d e i c r o e n iclt c e l and nO. third pleas of th e defendant , which related to the agreement having been_ set aside by th e making of another agre ement, and to it having been obtained by fraud, must be found for the plaintiff, as no evid ence had been offered in material issue which , that the agreement was a forgery, They must sUppOr allegedt of , them , take the documents into their hands, and consider whether in their opinion the evidence which had been given by the witnesses called for the defendant in respect of them, was borne out by the fact. They would also look to the circum stances surrounding the transaction, and determine upon the probability or improbability of the existence of the alleged, agreement. If they thought the agreement was, as the de fendant imputed, a forgery, then they need not trouble them selves to consider the question of damages, as the defendant would be entitled to their verdict ; but if, on the contrary, they should be of opinion that it was a genuine document, they would then give a verdict for the plaintiff, with such damages as they believed would compensate him for the loss lie had sustained by being discharged from the defendant's service. Tbejury retired at seven o'clock to ccquidq their Verclis4? and at ten minutes to nine returned into Court, finding for the defendant on the first plea, and for the plaintiff on the second and third pleas. her little family of four children, fatherless :—Respect fully states that applicant, by the death of her husband, after a long and painful illness, is now bringing up her little ones in the fear and love of the Lord, and in indus trious habits. By adversity she has been reduced from a sphere of comfort to destitution, and wishes to establish herself in some little business. She respectfully submits the inclosed documents, which she presumes will be fully satisfactory." The reporter was informed that these audacious and artful people approached Majesty itself, and not unsuccessfully. Their meek and despondent look, and their air of decent poverty was well calculated to deceive the most cautious. The prisoners declined making any defence. The two youngest of their five children are twins, and the prisoners each held one in th e i r arms ; and though the cries of the little ones often interrupted the proceedings, they refused to part with them for a moment. Mr. GREENWOOD said he had never heard nor ever read of such impostors. He sentenced them to three months' imprisonment each, and sent the eldest children to the workhouse. The babes were removed with their mother to the prison. POLICE INTELLIGENCE , (YESTERDAY.) MANSION-HOUSE. Mr. Howitt, one of the parishioners of St. Stephen's, Walbrook, waited upon the Lord Mayor, for the pur pose of requesting his Lordship's interference with the authorities of that church, to cause the removal of some boarding which had been put up after the late accident to the belfry, and from which he apprehended great danger as he sat in his office. Already a serious risk had been encountered by the fall of the woodwork a few days ago. If upon that occasion a shower of rain had not dispersed the persons who were collected about the book-shop next to the church, loss of life would, no doubt, have taken place. Another accident might prove dreadful in its consequences. The LORD MAYOR—Why do you not go at once to the churchwardens, and appeal to them? It is quite im possible that such officers should for a moment hesitate about making whatever repairs may be considered necessary. Mr. Howitt replied that it was the unfortunate con dition of the parish of St. Stephen's, Wallbrook, to be supplied with two sets of churchwardens, neither of which would, under the extraordinary circumstances in which the parochial matters were involved, attempt to act for the benefit of the parishioners. The LORD MAYOR—What! when the lives of people are endangered by the delay? Mr. Howitt declared that none of the churchwardens would act until the cause in the Court of Queen's Bench, which was expected to come on next week, should be decided. That case would show which set of church wardens could ,carefully act in the church. The cost of the security against further danger would be insigni ficant, and if he had the power of admission he would not hesitate to set a person to work at his own expense. The LORD MAYOR—And you consider that danger is to be apprehended from the state of the boarding? Mr. Howitt—Certainly, The LORD MAYOR—As that is the case I shall at once send to Alderman Gibbs to inform him of the fact, and I have no doubt that a remedy will be speedily adminis tered. Two ticket-porters were charged before the Lord Mayor, one of them having by violence prevented per sons from carrying goods which were landed from a steamer at the Custom-house, upon the pretence that the work belonged by right to the ticket-porters alone, and the other with having used abusive language to the com plainants, tending to excite to a breach of the peace. The defendants said they had purchased the privilege, for which they frequently contended with aliens, or those who were not ticket-porters, from the corporation of London, and that if they were not to be allowed to exercise that privilege, it was only fair that the money they had paid should be returned to them. The LORD MAYOR strongly condemned the conduct of the defendants in having dared to lay their hands upon property they could not have any right to touch, and stated that he had received several communications re lative to their assumption of authority. His Lordship considered that, under all the circumstances, he was called upon to inflict upon the two offenders the full penalties, amounting to forty shillings each. An appeal was made to his Lordship upon the part of the defendants by some respectable residents of the neighbourhood, who had long known them, and who re presented that the fault was the result of a misconcep tion of the nature of the remedy to which they were en titled in the case of other persons stepping in to do their duties. MARYLEB ONE. William Allan, the proprietor of the Yorkshire Stingo, New-road, appeared at this Court, on a summons ob tained against him by the police, for harbouring prosti tutes and other disorderly persons on his premises. Mr. Bodkin appeared for the defence. A very great number of licensed victuallers were i n attendance, as it was surmised that the whole merits of the question, which has heretofore been differently de cided by different Police Magistrates, would be fully entered upon. Sergeant Bennett, 18 D, said th a t , on t h e n i g h t of the 10th instant, he, with Inspector Brown and Sergeant Jones, accompanied also by a police-constable, went to the defendant's house. The ti me m i g h t be twenty-five minutes to twelve. They there saw twelve or fourteen prostitutes drinking in front of the bar, and he (Sergeant Bennett) at once asked to see the landlord (Mr. Allan), and informed him that the individuals there were of the worst description. Mr. Allan asked what he could do, and what authority he had to turn such characters from his house ? He (Serjeant Bennett) could not inform him, and Mr. Allan then went outside with the inspector. At a few minutes after twelve, about twenty women left the bar, and the place then closed. Similar evidence was given by Sergeant Jones and the police-constable. Mr. Bodkin contended that the evidence did not bear out the charge against his client. He thought that the Legislature bad never contemplated such cases as that before the Magistrate, when they framed the Police Act. It was more intended to apply to houses where, not only prostitutes were admitted, but where also gross immo rality was openly allowed. He referred to such houses as Mother H.'s, and other houses of a similar character, in the vicinity of the large theatres. The defendant had no wish to encourage such personages about his house, and the best proof of such disposition was that he allowed them no further than his bar, and even there there were not seats to rest upon. lie might also refer to the time that the parties bad been allowed to remain after the hint given by the police as to their character ; but his great argument, and he thought it an unanswer able one, was, that these very unfortunate females were as much entitled to refreshments and the shelter of a roof for the time being as the more favoured of her Majesty's subjects. He had never heard the time in which these unfortunate females were to drink their glass of beer or other liquor specifically mentioned, and, as far as his experience went, be did not think it was developed in the Act of Parliament. Mr. LONG thought the wording of the Act had de cidedly been contravened by the defendant. The worthy Magistrate then, in the most lucid manner, ana lysed the statute, and showed that the intention of the Legislature had been set at nought on the night in question. He, therefore, felt it his duty to inflict a pe nalty of 50s. for the offence. Mr. Bodkin requested the Magistrate to make it 31., as in that case his client might appeal. The worthy MAGISTRATE at once acceded, and Mr. Bodkin, on the part of his client, gave notice of an appeal to the first quarter sessions. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. Josiah Broderick or Broderick, a labouring man, living in Crown-street, Soho, was charged on the police sheet with having wounded his wife, Margaret, with a razor. It appeared that about nine o'clock on Wednesday night screams of murder were heard issuing from the house occu pied by the prisoner and his wife. When the room was en tered, the prisoner was found with his arms round his wife, who was bleeding from a severe wound on the arm. The woman, at first, said her husband had inflicted it with a razor, which was found on the floor covered with blood, but afterwards declared she had wounded herself, because her husband had packed up his clothes with the intention of de serting her. The policeman who took the man into custody produced a surgeon's certificate, stating that the woman was too much injured to appear at present. The wound extended from the upper part of the arm to below the elbow, and some of the muscles were completely severed. The prisoner declared that he never injured man, woman, or child, in his life. When his wife cut herself with the razor he seized her, iu order to prevent her from doing herself more mischief. The LORD MAYOR said that if the defendants were aggrieved by the conduct of unlicensed persons in per forming the work they claimed the right to perform, they had their remedy in the Mayor's Court ; but to seize people's goods and insist upon carrying them was a course which would naturally be met with resistance likely to prove very disagreeable to men who presumed to exercise such authority. His Lordship then stated that, as the present was the first case of the description which had been brought before him, and as it was re presented to him that the defendants had acted from a misconception of the legitimate exercise of their privi leges, he should not inflict the penalties in either case. Ile, however, gave notice to the defendants, and through them to all the ticket-porters of the City, that he should fine any future delinquent the full amount of the highest fine. The case of John Mitchell, who was examined on Saturday last, at the Mansion-house, before Sir John Phi°, upon the charge of having deserted from the 61st Regiment eleven years ago, a as, as was stated by the Press, submitted to the:military secretary at the Horse- Guards, by the Alderman, on that day. It will be re , collected that Sir John Pine felt very much for the poor man, who was represented to be a most industrious and honest person, and declared that it was his intention to make a particular application to the War-office relative to the defendant. The following is the answer to Sir John Pine's communication:— " Horse-Guards, June 19, 1844. "Sir—Your letter of the 17th inst., addressed to the Military Secretary, having, with its inclosures, been re ferred by him to this department, and by me submitted to the Commander-in-Chief, I have it in command to ac quaint you, that his Grace has, under all the circum stances of the case of John Mitchell, alleged to be a de serter from the 61st Regiment, been pleased to sanction his being released with a protecting certificate.—l have the honour to be, Sir, your most obedient humble ser vant, " JOHN MACDONALD, Adjutant-General. " Sir John Pine Bart., 71. Cornhill." That Sir John Pirie's active humanity was most pro perly exercised may be inferred from the following letter from Mr. Hayward, the Common Councilman, in whose service Mitchell had lived for a considerable time. Mr. HARDWICK ordered the prisoner to be remanded until the wife could come forward to give her evidence. Mr. William Wake, a young gentleman, giving his address at the Albion Hotel, Cockspur-street, whose very green waistcoat, high shirt collar, and tout ensemble, indicated that he was rather "fresh upon town," charged one Miss Caro line Field, of the Cornwall-road, with having abstracted from his pocket his canary bandana. Mr. Wake said, he went into the HaymarketiSaloon for refreshment, and, having been invited into the bar by Mrs. Harris, the proprietress of the place, he ordered a bottle of champagne and a cigar. After smoking his weed and seeing the bottom of his bottle, lie called for some tea. 'When the tea was dispatched he prepared to leave the saloon, as it was three, or four, or it might be five o'clock, at which time there was only himself, the prisoner, and the waiter in the saloon, though at one period of the night it had been toler ably full of ladies and gentlemen. On a sudden he missed his handkerchief, and feeling assured it had been taken either by the waiter or the prisoner, he complained to Mrs. Harris, who ordered a search to be made, and the handkerchief was found in a drawer in the kitchen. The prisoner had gone down stairs after the handherchief was missed, and he pre sumed she must have taken that opportunity of placing the property where it had been found. " 93, Minories, .Tune 19, 1844. " My dear Sir John—Accept my .thanks for your active benevolence on behalf of the poor fellow, John Mitchell, who is just returned to me with heart full of gratitude, and lam sure he will bear your kindness to him in lasting remembrance, as well as your much obliged and humble servant, " T. C. HAYWARD." CLERKENWELL. John Stewart and Sarah Pattison, alias Brown, alias Moore, alias Thompson, were brought up on remand, charged with endeavouring to obtain money on false pretences from numerous individuals of high and humble station. The preceding part of the case appeared in our paper of yesterday. Mr. John Evelyn Denison, M. P., of Burlington House, Piccadilly, deposed that, on the 22d of May last, the female prisoner called at his residence, and presented a note, of which the following is a copy : " Mrs. Brown, of Mahon (which place Mr. Denison represents in Parliament), intreats the favour of an in terview with Mr. J. E. Denison, in order to explain cir cumstances of an urgent nature." Witness saw her, and she represented herself to be in great distress, and said she belonged to the town of Mal ton. She asked him for money. He asked her whether or not she would give him any reference in confirmation of her story ? upon which she referred him to Mr, Thomas Keane, of Garlick-hill, Croydon. He wrote a letter to Mr. Keane the same afternoon, to which he re ceived the following answer :—" Mr. Keane would feel much obliged by Mr. Denison's giving in charge to the police the person who represents herself as Mrs. Brown. She has obtained money from several of my acquaint ances on a similar fraudulent representation." Witness asked her where she lived ? and she replied at No. 12. Dog and Bear-yard, Toeley-street. Witness then pro mised, if her story proved true, that he would afford her some assistance. Mr. MALTnr—Were you quite sober? Mr. Wake—Oh, dear yes. Why, I had only one glass out of the bottle of champagne. The rest was all drank up by the girls about me. Mr. MALTsy—Did the prisoner have any of it? Mr. Wake —She had a glass with the rest. The door-keeper was called to prove that the prisoner had been seen to enter the kitchen, but lie declared ha was too drowsy at the time to notice anything. The waiter was called to prove th e same thing, but he de prisoner cou l d possibly have taken thewas close to he r a ll th e t i me. I t h a d , P some other g i r l, out of a lark. theelear A rh l eh r ad . apn l sil V debk a dide k e er e nc — hnti l :e tk handkerchief, think l y ask this waiter a few questions. Now then, you are on your oath, tell me do you think I'm made of glass? Waiter—l don't mean to say you are. Mr. Wake—Then, as you were on oae side of me and the girl on the other, it's impossible you could have seen her " bone" my handkerchief, if I ain't made of glass. Mr. MArrsy—l don't think you make out your case. Mr. Wake—There's an evident attempt to crush the evi dence—there's a plot to smuggle up the fact, but I know you'll deal with the charge in a proper manner. Mr. MALTBY—I dismiss the cas e . Mr. Wake walked out of Court, looking very much of a piece with his waistcoat. THE POLISH BALL. We (Post) copy the following from the Hamburgh Borsenhalle, of June 14, as received from that paper's London correspondent, without, however, in the least, guaranteeing the authenticity of the document: — "LONDON, JUNE 11.—The Duchess of -Somerset, whose name stood at the head of the list of ladies who patronised the Polish Ball, which took place yesterday, had addressed a note to Baron Brunnow, the Russian Minister here, expressing her regrets, and the willing ness of the Lady Patroness to postpone the ball to a fu ture day, if the Emperor should wish it. By his Im perial Majesty's command the Duchess received the following reply:— Mr. Gibson, a gentleman residing at Blackheath, de posed that the female prisoner called upon him on the 18th of January last. He refused to see her at first, but at the instance of his wife had an interview with her. She said her object was to get her little boy into the Yorkshire School. She said her name was Brown. He recommended her to call on Mr. Tristam, Secretary to the Yorkshire Society. She produced a letter, pur porting to be written by Mr. Keane, of Croydon, settinc, forth her destitute con di t i on, an d certifying as to theb excellence of her character. The witness and his family subscribed 12s. 6d. for her immediate relief, and promised to interest themselves in her welfare. She said she was a widow, and going to open a little shop. Mr. Henry Tristam, Secretary to the Yorkshire Society, having been sworn, received several lett ers from the Magistrate, w hi c h had been found on the prisoners, purporting to be recommendations and cer tificates of character of the female prisoner by him; also a red book, in which his name was entered as a subscriber of various sums of money for her relief. Witness had never seen the prisoners before, and the whole of the letters and signatures were forgeries. Horsford and Rainey, the Mendicity officers, deposed that they visited the prisoner's lodgings, in 14, Charles street, Tower-street, Westminster-road, on the previous evening, and found two little girls, daughters of the pri soners, locked up in a room there. Witness produced a large quantity of note-paper, also a seal and sealing-wax, which he found there. They found 120 forged recom mendations of character, and certificates of other kinds, and 33 notes folded and sealed. The notes wore ad dressed to Mr. Adair, St. James's-square ; Sir R. F. Russel, Cavendish-square ; Lady M‘Donald, Eaton square ; Lady Whiticote, Stratford-place ; Countess of Eglinton, New Bond-street ; Sir H. 11. Vivian, Grillon's Hotel ; Hon. J. C. Dnndas ; Colonel Baker, Old Caven dish-street ; Mr. Ward, M.P. ; and other persons of distinction. " Windsor Castle, June 5. "My DEAR DUCHESS,--A thousand thanks for your friendly communication with regard to the Charity Ball which is to take place on Monday, the 10th instant, for the purpose of assisting Poles in distress residing in this country. I have not failed to lay before his Majesty what you have been kind enough to say on the subject. Before, however, I did so, I felt quite sure of his Ma jesty's intentions, and I am now extremely happy to be authorised to communicate to you, my dear Duchess, that the benevolent object which the ladies of the Ball Committee have in view, cannot possibly meet with any kind of objection. His Majesty is not personally ac quainted with the ladies at the head of the Committee; but, as to the benevolent institution itself, I have only to inform you, that in case the subscription list has not closed yet, and an additional sum to the funds at your disposal should be desirable, or requisite, I have been commanded to sign my name f or any sum which you may think proper to mention, for the fulfilment of your benevolent intentions.--Yours, &c. (Signed) " BRUNNOW. " Her Grace the Duchess of Somerset.' " The following fact, we conceive, presents a new feature in the science of ornithology : —On Friday evening last, as two young men belonging to this town were leisurely strolling up the new road to wards Lonsdale•place, they •bserved a whitethroat in the act of catering for its young. After watching the parent bird's motions for some time, they suc ceeded in tracing it to its nest, in which they found seven young ones, three of them full fledged, and four which had apparently not been hatched more than a couple of days. As it is a known fact that parent birds never per mit others to participate in their nests, so we believe no instance is on record in which two hatchings of birds have ever been discovered at the same time in one nest. Can any of our country readers furnish us with a paral lel to this circumstance ?—Cumberland Pacquet. EXTRACTS FROM THE IMPORTS.—Some of the arti cles imported into this country are somewhat curious in their nature, as the following items will show. Thus, among the skins imported and payingduty towards the revenue are enu• merated those of cats. In the half-year ending the sth Ja nuary, 1842, no fewer than 2,096 " undressed cat-skins" were admitted, paying 91. 3s. 3d. duty; in the half-year ending the sth January, 1843, 981 skins, paying 31. I9s. duty, and in the half-year ending the sth January, 1844, 601 cat skins. Thus, the fur of the feline race seems to be going down in the market Two pounds of candle-wick have been imported in the same three half-years, paying a duty of one shilling and eightpence ! and upwards of 500 tons of bullrusbes, exclusive of 248 loads in the first of the three half years! Again, there have been imported during the same periods no fewer than 36,0001b5. of waste paper, pay ing nearly I,OOW. duty ! and some 1,600/. worth of slate pen cils, paying nearly 3001. duty ! About 3501. was derived as duty from ships imported to be broken up, during the like half years; and nearly 600 dog-skins were also imported " in the hair !" Such are a few of the curiosities of the import lists of this great commercial country, showing that there is nothing so trifling, or apparently useless, from which commerce does not manage to derive snipe advantage, There were likewise found among the papers of these artful impostors several Parliamentary Directories, Court Guide, Navy Lists, warrants of distress, some of them filled up and some of them were blank printed forms; surgeons' certificates and hospital certificates; printed forms from almost every hospital in London ; reports of the Welsh, Caledonian, Indigent Scotch, and at least one half the benevolent societies in London. There was also a letter purporting to be written by Lieut.- Colonel Campbell, and dated United Service Club, 30th March. It would appear from the papers, that the hus band at one time represented himself as an in firm seaman, and at another, the female pri soner us the widow of a persom of that class. Accordingly a printed form of petition to Trinity House was found among the papers partly filled up, and claiming a pension on account of the naval services of her deceased husband. There was another petition to the Orphan Asylum filled up and ready for presenta tion, and one to the Deaf and Dumb Asylum ; there were also attempts to imitate the handwriting of distinguished individuals, whose signatures they had seen or obtained, and there were several slips of papers found in their apartment covered with these imitations. Some of them were a very close resemblance ; Mr. Tristram acknow ledged his to be so. These clever forgeries were in many instances the chief cause of their success. The following is a copy of the notes addressed by the female prisoner to the distinquished individuals above mentioned : " The following particulars of inevitable distress are respectfully submitted by a helpless widow on behalf of THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, JUNE 2l, 1844. was night that it might he necessary, after th vember next, when the Bra z ilian treaty would exPlele. take the whole subject of th e suga r duties into ration ; but in the present state of' slavery exp, Cuba and Brazil, her M a je s ty' s Government Of 0 , think it was advisable to e ncou rage the sugar " Di e countries. He would not pledge himself that the was to be permanent. Barone t Lord HOWICK thought the Right Hon. be was wise in not pled g i ng himself that the Bill shoe stilt permanent—(Laughter)—f o r h e thought it u e u e s eer o very doubtful that it wou ld no t now m i s carry—( at t he The Right Hon. G e ntl eman o pp os it e had said t sta te Government possessed information respecti g tr te sa y of servitude in Java, from which they were abl that the sugar of that i s l an d was not the produce 0, ` slave labour. Why wa s th a t i n f orma tion withhel a ' the House ?—(Cheers.) el ied . Mr. GLADSTONE and Mr. P. M. STIWART ex. se, de' Mr. HUME wished the Right Hon. Gentleman Leto, fine what free-labour sugar was, and whether airy ' see d try in which slavery did not exist was entitled to sugar to our mark e t s ?—(M r . H ume th en sat down, wdt ing for an answer, but nobody rising to give enY)' oa lle The HON. MEMBE R a ga i n rose , an d that it was be shameful that so important a clause as this shone bungled and slurred over in such a manner. There was still a pause. ht W s ' Mr. SHEIL ros e , an d sa id h e thought the Rig ht chi Gentleman, the President of th e Board, of Trade tainly to answer he query of his H on . F r iend. It c er e reo was important for the Committee to know whether slavery did exist in Cochin-China. Mr. GLADSTONE sa id t h at th e Governmesuebre, not in possession of sufficient information on the `vas s pot ject to say whether th e sugar i n C oc hi n -China w raisedslave lbour. Mr. SHELL said the answer of the Right lion' Ger of tleman showed how necessary it was that proper M o e should be made before the House proceeded to gi v d e e. It large discretiona r y p owers to t h e Board of Tr ade ' ion was quite plain that G overnment was no t in pos s e e to of sufficient information to enable the House to Ocoee a conclusion of s o muc h i mportance as t h a t to whi° le to were now asked to arrive at. The proposition snug f th e be carried was really one o f t h e car di na l points of Bill. e ens After a few words f rom M r . HUME, the motion , e , be withdrawn, th e H on . M em b er g i v i ng not i c e th a t would renew his moti on on t h e su bj ect w h en the r ' was brought up. On clause 4 being proposed, Mr. LABOUCHERE said the question of ce . rti ee 6 " cates involved in this clause was one of the greatertne, portance. It was besides perfectly novel in le a ri „in What guarantee had they that the certificates of e it e t o would be faithful and correct ? They were about of admit Chinese sugar, and to exclude the si l k /e rgo Cochin-China. But it was very well known that eb ee quantities of sugar were exported from Cochin-400 into China. The Cochin-China sugur and the Cp e has sugar would lay in the same warehouse—then wh er be es' the guarantee that Cochin- Chinese sugar would u °t , t eere ported from China into this country? In the same 1 1 0 the was a great deal of sugar imported from Cuba in tha t it United States, and the only guarantee they had eea ests would not come into this country through Ameri ca those certificates of origin. It was very easy t° D r ies' ) foreign affidavits. As to the reliance on the i ti efg' Consul, he must say th a t, a l ong w i t h t hi n king it t est cient, he thought it would be very degrading W sa esr officer to be obliged to look after every cargo T ile s ; s * that left the port a t w hi c h h e was stationed. Teceriti tern of affidavits i n t ro d uce d did not g i ve much s-stoty to the public, for every one knew how little eu e house oaths were val ue d, or thought of; in fac t d en e ete his main objectio ns t o th e Bill was, t h at it tencots' weaken and undermine commerc i a l veracity 511 that mercial fidelity. On the whole, he did not th in h this " the shadow of a s h a d e " o f an advantage w hi ee c en t * Bill held out, and w hi c h wou ld van i s h t h e 13 1 °' o '4 practical effect was sought to be given, was in a s i t etiog sufficient to counterbal a n ce th e di sa d van t a ges re! h from the ho s tility t o us f rom f ore i gn power s wil le Bill would inevitably create. , a s Mr. HAMPDEN sa id th a t h e b e li eve d there,- (rote ambiguity in the Bill, w hi c h, as h e un d er stooo , , e er some of his friends, wou ld exc l u d e t h e nece ssity 0 ` to tificates of origin from th e A mer i cans . He wished call the attention of th e G overnment to t h e subJec eh his Mr. GLADSTONE sa id h e qu i te agre ed Wit n his Right Hon. Friend o pp os i te (M r. L a b ouc here) 1 ee ry assertion that the que s ti on o f th e cert ifi ca t e s was s as to important one ; b u t h e w h o ll y d i ffered from hi-171,0014 the amount of difficulty which he apprehende d arise from the use of them. He freely adroitt eu l lih; this was the most i m p or t ant part o f t h e Bill. Th e wo uld Hon. Gentlem an sa id th e power to preven t fraud v i a rest solely and entirely ou the certificate of origin' ro e was not the case—indeed it was very far from the or e Under the existing law of this country oc casion ee j of constantly arising in whi c h cer tifi cates we re requir e of of the origin of thi ngs i n t ro d uce d i nto i t. This was 0 the main principles of the navigation laws--on e no t most essential characteristics. Therefore it yea s . t . e ne new practice ; th ere was no nove l ty w h atev er in 1 1 ,0 untried experime n t, b u t s i mp l y a d uty w hich ee r y; public officers were called u p on h a bit ua lly to dieehatoof and this was no t d one i n every case, or eve n in t here cases, by means of a special investigation. Wh e ' ll e i a teil was reason to supp ose th a t a fraud was conter a r e eP then of course th e f ac t s an d c i rcumstances were sP-theP, cally inquired into, b u t w h en suc h was not the oase:„0 of there was only th e usua l an d or di nary examinet' the the ship's papers. Therefore, under this Bill, anne - , e ill instances referred to, the p ro p er aut h or i t i es w ould - 0 1 have to do that which they were accustomed to on other occasions. The Right Hon. Gentleman (3-ir' T eo' bouchere) seemed t o thi n k t h at t h e G over nment eeel posed to depend solely on the certificate ; theY e es no such thing, but on other general precautions a s ce rti' The Right Hon. Gentleman also stated that oe .hich ficate of origin had heretofore been required, w ith l eo ) foreigners had any thing to do. He (Mr. Gl acis er l to knew not whether his Right Hon. Friend referrAeri foreigners holding official situations, or to fore; ire carrying on and usually engaged in mercantile s et e be If he referred to the former, of course it wouldo..ed to required ; if to the latter, he (Mr. Gladstone) ben" say it was not a novel feature in the Bill. As fb e r e it leer f carried on business in English ports, so did Eugie,isest, of chants in foreign ports ; and their signatures P.• o f the necessity, be oftentimes taken in various m atters rge ee highest importance. But his Right Hon. Frien d 3 lVe' that where th ere was a strong interest to ae , e . a loe i • a certificate of or i g i n would be of u ° He did not agree in that with b is r oot ! Honourable F r i en d ; an d , further, he rails' to o t hl ff ee e s e sy e S tsh i r l a l InB o 3 f fisv, h el i v s hi ae o lr i fe v p n e friend, tnhcee iilll e ° n e t fraudA h l i m ont a w f ing e l t s e h , e n C o where a certificate of origin was requiredee t i libe l, l: ::r nc ; e 4 which arrangement he (Mr. Gladstone) had n a, heard that fraud had been successfully practis° at °Pe him assure his Right Hon. Friend that fraud we They rations could not b e carr i e d on without ex pense' e had not merely the liabilities of detection to col ) t but the absolute burden of heavy disburseue e t P o s ake commit fraud in these matters, a vessel 1 13 1 30 d,an second voyage in order to give effect to that i r ar tiese - i look at the expense which this incurred to there eca te f origin, f gaged b in e it r .G l Why, ad s teovneen) shouldwithout be verythese trick or imposition? but then he thought ; he P l igh t o f little 7 20p 1e England had a right to require them—lea d L e tioo ho e require every precaution against the intro the y h is oe fra o slave-grown sugar, after the heavy sacrideq 11 3 e , O made to suppress slavery in their own COlonies o to r ty opinion the fears of the Right Hon. G e ntlera t u h ri e e erac l e e Consuls being unpleasantly mixed up w ith w Jed. eif' of individuals would turn out wholly unfou n The him look at the real difficulty in such a e e ti o se e ' e ein-C h ficulty was to be satisfied that the sugar 0 ' ` e ort, was not exported from China. Why, ate a 'epori e to. one knew what articles were imported, lew t ' n boun" r e; where they came from, whence they wer t ee These were matters of daily conversation ou ol d eas t or and any man of ordinary common se nse c oods tilt a what was going on in respect to g e cula t i d t a fragile, and light, and portable, but of lends N V it , bulky and heavy character. If they were or 10 things that could be carried about in their runbore le their po c k e t s — w i t h sp i r i ts, that cou ld be ta lk ° f al e s, kegs, then they might, with some reason , A ckag t 'elY P could 0° ficulties ; but with large, heavy, and unw l to such as sugar was stowed away in, he, for ° as anticipate the slightest practical difficu l tylist the ` v e er the transhipping of these packages, what notice obsedone be about to let it take place without not] us itry tion? It could not be done in the dark —it ni e nd t o ee in the daylight, and it required much labour ed _ t t e a t to hands. The Right Hon. Gentlemen bad s te4 stig ar w e ., *° o thought the attempt to exclude slave-grown o pine' he be inoperative, and he believed that to be efA irti pa r . e iert the whole commercial world. Now, for his ° . hat oeln was of a decidedly opposite opinion, and by the he should abide. douh t ee r e, Mr. HAWES said there could be ,v iee titer e t i l e t transhipment would be unprofitable, and ' e t'Y tre des s g,„, should they clog it with a differential duty _ s r e te id to e , e to the Right Hon. Gentleman had entirely t lef etat ioo blish his own case, and he hoped theis,,tsewske', fraud would not meet the sanction of th e Je „h u u g e n. Lord PALMERSTON thought the V e te eile cut tleman's argument on this question hea s r ,T t e l a s 1 !* 5 ; to the ground on which this measure an e" ark auto sl °,6o because he said that the advantage officient temP i t e td the British market would not be to induce persons to commit fra a ud sl . l ; be a very great advantage in such a inent Government made that advantage an rgu the measure proceed on the assumption d t in ht e t s t i ll i e ,i . n ut t tli b bi e ll Brazilian Government for altering ha valuedaisn;etetnearolvpsetnebteioon to H emustfraud, assume,otherw otherwise howev er, these guardsthat th w e t r o h e u :i l s r e of no t the 'ntroduced ; but he held those guards to ee Leastdiffi l c h u e lt s y e . was as sell an d upon t _ e ,, f i ca te- iti o tion of a party interested, duties 7. 13 0 0 0 n British u s t pr o c t o e n s consul againstul cAerltlifiticiaattelsva.csould be o b thed N:iietree°,usstehr; a Britise to t consuls. It was no part of the duty such /n atters; a l tar to act as a judge of foreigners in were r e g ul eet was rtelicieuirequired entrusting tnoee sign e o d f such r" chants. What ithwinhhatiswporuz to tell foreigners residing where he was e. he believed they were telling him a f!t e l s s , h rn i b n e ce his va p s os t itiori i rf teheet ::::::: 1 ents. TheY ', jo g t creating and through him on British merchants.ty a l e l • e o a u r ld ) exert \Vh ytliefmliseelinveasd made secret ee r i e . throwing on British consuls the e v t en en g e e m t i hem t s l e io h s re e s - 0 - n e h ve i s t ,'; hear.) t to diminish their efficiency.—(Hear, f to O il there oie treated the Right Hon. Gentleman . eerher l " t eet enemies, and were thus doing what would tend greatly himself with the certificate of the foreign e _ er ,„ said The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQU-re R that if Cu l L: what his Right Hon. Friend contended was, , e , h „ ere.. e e , to render fraud less probable than it otherwise e e; c o u r i o to th u e s r r s o l i a it v e e , - t gr he o' e v x n p s e u n g s a e r ih h u a s d i t n o cu be rr f e c d ri l v e a a r ; s: i . v se d e - a ' e t° There were cases already, in which the eves p Why a _ go . iou i guV uld cessurily exposed tg odium. -- Lord PALMERSTON continued—The Right Hon. Gentleman wished to confine him to Java.— (Laughter.) But he would insist that wherever slavery existed, the slave trade must be carried on. He would not call it hypocrisy, because hypocrisy implied some pretence ; but he would say that a more barefaced inconsistency, one more obvious to the meanest capacity, than the one contained in this clause had never been proposed to Parliament. When they had withdrawn all the free labour sugar from the market of Europe, of course the deficiency thus created in that market would be sup plied by slave labour sugar. This was one invincible objection which he entertained to the measure. There was, moreover, a constitutional objection to the clause. By that clause the Govern ment took to themselves the power of opening the market by deciding upon the laws, constitutions, and customs of other Governments. When Parliament invested Government with powers of that nature, they should lay down rules clearly defining the principle by which the Government was to be guided, so that if the Government departed from that principle they might be subject to the disapprobation of Parlia ment. The Right Hon. Gentleman took upon him self to decide upon all the different degrees of servi tude, from the slavery of Cuba and Brazil to a state of mere serfdom. The Government thus took upon themselves to judge of the different laws and customs of other countries, and were allo we d to open the market t o th e produce of any country which they might determine to be sufficiently tinged with freedom.—(Hear, hear.) Now that was not a very intelligible principle. If, instead of that, the clause had enacted that the British market should be open to sugar the produce of all countries in which the slave trade was not carried on, that distinction would have been at least intelligible. He might think that it would not be advisable to introduce such a distinction, but at all events it would be an intelli gible one. At present there was no intelligible dis tinction, and he thought the clause altogether so ob jectionable; that he felt bound to vote against it. Sir J. HANMER wished to call the attention of his Right Hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade to the fact that a considerable proportion of the trade between the Phillipine Islands and the Manilla was carried on in Spanish bottoms. He trusted that this matter would not escape the atten tion of her Majesty's Government. He also wished to know why the island of Porto Rico should not be enumerated among the places from which free-labour sugar was to be introduced. Mr. GLADSTONE said there was a very consi derable proportion of free labour in Porto Rico, but at the same time there was a great deal of slave labour employed in that island, and it was imprac ticable to draw any distinction in the case of that island.--(Cheers from the Opposition.) The matter alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman was one of much importance. The Hon. Gentleman had accurately stated that differential duties were still in ex istence, and no treaty had been entered in to with Holland relating to the intercourse with Java. With respect to Manilla the same practice also pre vailed. The long voyages from the Philippine Islands were not performed by Spanish vessels, but chiefly by British ; and with regard to the export duties levied at Manilla, the difference was so slight as to be scarcely worthy of consideration. Mr. HUME said it was the object of Parliament, in legislating on these matters, to lay down certain principles in a Bill, and then tolay down such rules as should prevent any deviation from it. They now began to find out the difficulties which encompassed the plan of her Majesty's Government.--(Hear, hear.) He wanted to know if Government could and would define what the law was. If they could not define it now, how could they hope to define it hereafter ? (Hear, hear.) The fact was, the only conclusio n th e House could come t o was that the Government itself did not know what the clause meant.—(Cheers.) Now, he would ask them this question—Was Egyp tian sugar admissible under this Bill ? They could not tell him—(Cheers)—and if they would not tell, how could foreign Governments know in what way to advise these people to regulate their trade with this country ? He had never seen the Right Hon. Baronet so anxious to get rid of a question as he was that night, and really he was not surprised at it. St.ll he should be sorry to see the Right Hon. Ba ronet go out at the present moment—though the di vision on Monday night was carried by the free traders, par excellenee—(Laughter) —still he could not conceive, after the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet, that he would have remained in office had the majority been against him.—(Hear.) But this was no matter.—(Laughter.) It was possible that this Bill would have to be carried out by another Go vernment, and they ought to lay down certain prin ciples which could be understood by the general in terpretation of the words. How would they deal with the sugar of Louisiana ? Lord STANLEY —That is under a treaty. Mr. HUME—But suppose the treaty should cease ?—(Hear, hear.) Acts of Parliament ought not to be intelligible only to Ministers of State ; they ought to be intelligible to men of ordinary under standing. They ought to lay down a distinction between slave-grown sugar and free sugar, and after the new interpretation that had been given by the Right Honourable Gentleman, he thought the House ought to have another opportunity of express ing its opinion. He moved that the further considera tion of this clause be deferred. Sir ROBERT PEEL said the opportunity de sired by the Honourable Gentleman had been sug gested to him from his own Parliamentary know ledge in the motion he had just made, and he hoped the House would express their opinion upon it. The Noble Lord had proposed that the discriminating duty of 10s. should be applied to sugar, the produce of slave labour, equally with sugar the produce of free labour. The House had decided against the Noble Lord's proposition ; and if he were not satisfied with their decision, he would have an opportunity of again raising the question on the bringing up of the report. He did not think the Hon. Gentleman oppo site had a right to call up on th e G overnment to an swer a variety of hypothetical cases. As only a year would elapse before the treaty with the United States would expire, it was hardly necessary to discuss the question. Mr. LABOUCHERE hoped the Hon. Gentleman would comply with the Right Hon. Baronet's sug gestion ; because he was not without hopes that when they had gone through the clauses of the Bill it would be so clear that the people of this country were called upon to make all those sacrifices for no practical benefit ; that they were exhibiting themselves in the eyes of the world as people who were unable to carry their own principles into effect ; that they were introducin g a system of extensive fraud in the commercial world, that the House upon the report would be induced to reverse their decision.—(Cheers.) The more they discussed the question, the more evident it would be, that it was not advisable to attempt to draw a distinction between the two classes of foreign sugar.—(Cheers.) Mr. GLADSTONE said, that although the Right Hon. Gentleman recommended his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) not to discuss the question on this clause, he could not resist the temptation of stating in very glowing language what were the arguments against the Bill.—(Hear, hear.) An observation had been made about the Government shifting their ground. He begged to tell the Noble Lord that he was able to give a confident denial to that statement, and the Government were prepared to meet the Noble Lord's objections point by point, whenever it would be con venient.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member for Montrose had attributed to him (Mr. Gladstone) the having complained of being catechised on the subject of this Bill. He was not aware that he had made any such complaint, but certainly he must observe, that with respect to the sugars of France, Austria, and Northern Germany, that, as those countries had barely enough to supply their own wants, he did not think it necessary to provide for any contingency aris ing from those quarters. The matter, however, was entirely at the discretion of the Government. Mr. F. BARING said the clause gave to the Go vernment the power to admit sugar which they felt satisfied was the produce of free labour. Under these circumstances, they (the Opposition) asked the Go vernment to have the goodness to explain what they meant by the produce of free labour, in order that they might ascertain how they were likely to exer cise the power which was vested in them. The Right Hon. Gentleman replied that he could not give any definition.. He thought, putting the whole subject together, the Government ought to' tell them what were the species of sugar they intended to admit. Mr. GLADSTONE defended the course the Go vernment had pursued. Mr. P. M. STEWART would confine himself strictly to the question before the Committee. The more this Bill was discussed the more evident were its defects— the more clear it became that the measure was wholly indefensible. The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite ac cused him of resorting to fallacy for the purpose of making out a ease of slavery against Java, but the Right Hon. Gentleman ought to know that all the goods that came from Java were the produce of forced labour —or, if they pleased, of modified slavery. from which there was no escape without payment of a ransom.--(llear, hear.) That was the real state of the case, and he was sure that if the Right Hon. Gentleman the President of the Board of Trade was fully aware of the facts, he would not include Java in the category of free-labour states. As for excluding the sugar c,f Brazil, and other slave states, from British consumption, he was aware of a recent case which proved that it was impos sible. A ship, with a large cargo of sugar, arrived at Liverpool from Brazil, which was re-shipped in the Aus tralia and sent out to Bombay, where it was by this time in the course of consumption by British subjects.— (Hear, hear.) Sir W. JAMES said that he did not know in what way the Government intended to proceed, and until he did so, he could not conscientiously vote with them.— (Cheers and a laugh.) He wished to know whether he was right in supposing that the Bill was not to be a per manent measure. Sir B. PEEL had stated in the debate on Monday at ai IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 20. Sir J. T. BULLER gave notice that on Tuesday next he should ask leave to bring in a Bill for better assessing, levying, and collecting the county rate. BANK CHARTER. Mr. WODEHOUSE was understood to give notice of an amendment to the third clause of the Bank Charter Bill; but its precise nature was not heard in the gallery. JOINT-STOCK BANKS. Mr. MASTERMAN asked the Right Hon. the President of the Board of Trade whether the Act for the regulation of joint-stock banks was intended to have a retrospective effect on the joint-stock banks already in existence. Mr. GLADSTONE said the question was one of considerable importance; but he had not had the op portunity of referring to the Acts ; still he would give the Hon. Gentleman as clear an answer as he could. The question was whether, in the Bill before Parlia• ment for the regulation of joint-stook banks, intended to apply them to the banks at presen, in operation. He might state that it was not intended to apply the Bill to those joint-stock banks at present in operation, except with respect to registration, unless the parties having the direction of the company should conceive it to be their interest to place themselves under the provisions of the Bill ; there were powers in the Act which would enable them to do so. The Government had thought it right fully to recognise all the privileges that were secured to these banks up to the passing of the Act, but with respect to companies formed since the introduction of the Bill and before it should be passed, it might be a question whether it would not be advisable tojbring them under the operation of the Bill. ST. MARGARET'S CHURCH. Sir C. BURRELL presented a petition from the parish of St. Margaret's, Westminster, praying that as the Church had been made the Church of the House of Commons, it would be pleased to contribute something towards the repair of the fabric. The Hon. Member wished the petition to be printed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he could not decide on the prayer of the petition, as it would be a matter for the decision of the House ; he would, however, consent to the petition being printed. LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND. Capt. LAYARD, seeing the Noble Lord the Se cretary for Ireland in his place, wished to ask whe ther there was any truth in the rumour generally circulated, of the resignation of Earl De Grey ? Lord ELIOT said the Hon. and Gallant Member had better put the question to the Right Hon. Baro net the First Lord of the Treasury. SCILLY ISLANDS. Captain PECHELL asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether he had any objection to produce the correspondence that had taken place with refer ence to sending the mails to Scilly. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the arrangements were not completed, but when they were there would be no objection to producing the correspondence. THE LORD-LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND. Sir R. PEEL having entered the House, Captain LAYARD repeated to him the 'question that he had put to Lord Eliot, whether there was any truth in the report of the resignation of Earl De Grey ? Sir R. PEEL said there was no truth whatever in the rumour.—(Hear, hear.) Still he must say that the state of Earl De Grey's health had for some time been such as to make him very anxious to be reliered from the burdens of office; but he certainly had not resigned. MEDITERRANEAN FLEET. Sir C. NAPIER wished to ask the First Lord of he Admiralty a question—lf it was true that the Commander-in-Chief in the Mediterranean had dis placed the ward-room officers, and taken possession of the ward-room for his own accommodation ? He wished to know if the Admiralty had any infor mation on the subject, and if they had, whether they approved of it? Sir G. COCKBURN said there was no official re port of the circumstance, but he believed such a thing had been done when the ship was taking out the Governor-General. Sir C. NAPIER said he thought the Right Hon. Baronet had misunderstood him. He had asked for information, and that was the only place where he could attain it. If he applied to the Admiralty he could not obtain the information he wanted. Sir G. COCKBURN said he must observe that the Gallant Officer had no right to make that remark.— (Hear, hear.) He often came to the Admiralty and found no difficulty in obtaining information.—(Hear.) Captain PECHELL said the latter part of the Gallant Commodore's question had not been answered. He would himself ask the Gallant Admiral opposite whether such a practice as that of taking away the wardroom from lieutenants and captains of marines had ever been known in any other case. Sir G. COCKBURN said it had been done by himself -in the Romney, when he went out with the broad pennant.—(Ministerial cheers.) Dr. BOWRING wished to know when the papers connected with improvement in the public accounts were likely to be laid on the table ? Sir G. CLERK said they were laid on the table on. Friday last. On the order of the day for going into Committee on the Sugar Duties being read, Sir C. NAPIER said something had fallen from his Gallant Friend, the Member for Greenwich, which he could not pass by without notice. "When he asked the Gallant Admiral a question in reference to what had occurred in the Mediterranean, he replied that there had been a similar occurrence when a Go vernor-General went out to India. That might be perfectly correct, but an Admiral was not a Go vernor-General of India. There was not a case on record, in which an officer on a foreign station had turned all the officers out of their room for his own convenience. It was contrary, he believed, to all the rules of the navy.—(Hear, hear.) The Gallant Admiral reminded him that, when he had visited the Admiralty, he had never been refused information ; but then it had always been given with the under standing that the communication was private. That was the reason why he had asked the question. Mr. SHEIL gave notice, that to-morrow (this day) he would ask the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her-Majesty's Government, whether he had issued any directions respecting the distribution of Church pa tronage in Ireland to the Education Commission ? SUGAR DUTIES. The House then went into Committee on the Sugar Duties Bill. Mr. LABOUCHERE wished to know whether the enactments of the Bill were directed against slave labour sugar or not ? Mr. GLADSTONE said that they certainly were not. ' Sir. R. PEEL sa id it was i mpossible to make any arrangement by which all parties would be satisfied. Mr. VERNON SMITH thought that the Hon. Gentleman was bound to show to the House the reasons for the course he had adopted ; he could not see any reason why the measure that had been pro posed should be further considered. Mr. GLADSTONE defended the course adopted by the Government. The slavery of Java was in its character quite distinct from that of Brazil.—(Hear.) Lord PALMERSTON said, that whether the ex pression used by his Right Hon. Friend near him had been properly understood or not, was of little im portance. It was of no use to discuss the motives of Right lion. Gentlemen opposite. They were the best judges of their own motives.—(Hear, and cheers.) But, without discussing motives, he must say that the course which the Government was taking was the most devious, circuitous, and tortuous they could have chosen—(Cheers)—and a devious course was always the most difficult.—(Cheers.) her Ma jesty's Government had formerly stated that their object was to put down slavery ; but now their object was to put down only the slave trade.—(Cheers.) They had no objection to favour countries in which domestic slavery existed—it was only to agricultural slavery they objected.—(Hear.) Why, in that state ment they gave up one of the most important of their own principles ; for where domestic slavery existed there must be a supply of slaves, and there must be a slave trade.—(Hear, hear.) Look to our own Orien tal possessions, in which domestic slavery existed — Mr. GLADSTONE said that the Noble Lord ought to confine himself to Java.—(Hear, hear.), The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. Mr. M. O'CONNELL presented 49 petitions from Ireland in favour of a repeal of the union. DISSENTERS CHAPELS BILL. Petitions against this Bill were presented by Lord Jocelyn, from Yorkshire; Mr. Shaw, from Middle sex; Mr. Fox Maule, from Scotland; Mr. Evans, from Derby ; Lord Ingestre, Wolverhampton ; Col. Wood, Brecon ; Mr. Plumptre, Manchester ; Mr. Newdegate, Coventry ; and Mr. Bankes. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL presented a petition in favour of the Bill. Mr. WARD presented a petition from Sheffield against the Savings' Banks Bill. Mr. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from a place in Ireland praying for inquiry into the present state of that country. SOAP DUTY. Mr. HUTT said, having been disappointed in bringing on his motion with reference to this duty on Tuesday, owing to the circumstance of there not being a House, he had, after consulting with parties interested in it, determined to abandon his intention for the present session, with the view, however, of bringing it under the consideration of Hon. Members at an early period next year. Mr. BUCK presented several petitions from North Devon against any alteration of the corn-laws. Mr. AGLIONBY presented petitions from the associated ministers and chapels of Cumberland against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. COUNTY RATE. 4