The Sun. — London, England, 1845-04-29 00:00:00

,~ ~~ ~~~ `~~ ~ ~,.►: RAILWAY COAMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) Group B. LEEDS AND WEST RIDING LINE. sat AusTm (in continuation from our Afternoon Edition o i'L at erdlly) said—From that the line was a descent, and the „'w_e upon that down line, in iron alone, was about 23,000 tons ;;,,P,lg and bar iron per annum, besides an enormous traffic in ;"I's , therefore if this line were made, it would be °fit's-eat con -"Epee- They then proposed to cross Lomore at tiamost Nwenient height for all purposes. The length of tunnel 1 31 °Pesed to be ma d e on th e li ne f r o m Copley-hills to Hall ...was 92 yards; the second tunnel, that from llalifax, at aeon -hill, would be 836 yards ; the third, at Ligbtcliff, W ould be 345 yar d s ; th e fourth, at Wyke, near Lomore, v Ln l d be, 1,238 yards; and the district from Lomore to was a uniform level of lin 100. There were no engi neering difficulties on the line, but there was to be a tunnel WW. ' 696 yards ; and the station at Leeds would be found to . as convenient as it is possible to make it for all rail- Theos He would now go back to Lo more. tu p nnel on the line from Leeds to Bradford would be 1,092 in, and that line could be made on a gradient of 1 in 70. I the n line from Lomore to Dewsbury was 7i miles long, and 1 f r e would be no tunnelling in it; then they proposed to go 4 131 ; Wisbrig to Brighouse. where they proposed to join the ct e ti„s and Manchester line, and there would be no tunnelling ti ,!•nat either. Thus, then, lie had shown that this under tjtrig 'would ccnsi s t of six lines and five branches, and wortnl un derstood as the West Riding line. The extent of i lu W ile r) .° was about 344 miles, having six tunnels , and the t e cost had been estimated at about 1,100,0001., or at the b a k e ?f 34 ,000/_ per mile. He would now proceed to call - wtnes s Mr i I; es ' etd ; AINEs said, that perhaps he would save some trouble a loss of time by now repeating an offer which he had b ur de befor e . H e was now rea dy, o n behalf of the Dews y Company, to repeat their otter, which, if acceded to, With secure all the contemplated advantages to the public t injury to the Leeds and Manchester Company. It to4l 'iou this—to give the Dewsbury Company the power • at rilkake their line between Leeds and Mirfield, b e ,,, t i . u e point where Mirfield was joined, the on " 1 - 11 7 Company giving up the Cooper-bridge line, moeondition that the Leeds and Manchester Company would ki ''' . an uninterrupted communication to pass between Leeds Ir luddersfi ld b Cooper-bridge. A e Trice,i n sTIN said lie could not be prepared before to-morrow T to give an answer to the proposition. lirst witness called was Mr. Frith, who deposed that t; 1 ' 14 (1 manufactorips at Leeds, Bradford, Nottingham, and a o rg°wi and that the lines of rail proposed by the Leeds h, Manchester Company would afford great convenience to Ma nufactories for the transit of his goods, coals, &c. t o 4 r. Rob ert B a k er —W as a member of the Leeds Town aheur i°°r-law,cili and the author of the sanitary report of the town fur Commissioners. The proposed lines would be e ii T e st convenience for the transit of coals, of which an °w a quantity was consumed in the manufactories of Ord John Botterill deposed that he was an extensive dyer, k that the eavrng to his firm in the cartage of coals by the , d. ll( seci lines would be very great, and the supply as abun ikt7l and certain. Had had an offer from one coal corn kal t° sell their coals at Is. per ton cheaper if this line were 14, 24 ti • i hteson—ls an Alderman of the borough of Leeds , 41 the illeMber of the West Riding Railway Committee; tholit hue scheme contemplates the line called the of last ar ; the object was to shorten the fruv7ee betw een halifax and Leeds, last year, by a line T etis to Bradford ; the short line would be very ley " L ageOUS to the woollen districts, particularly at Pod - Oirill t ru ere low cloths were made by the workmen in their thee t °t ‘ s es; if there were a line of rail from Pudsey to Leeds, ;4 14 : 101 11d be great traffic upon it. The Town-council of ai gu .., and the poor-law guardians, and many others had e i ri Petitions in favour of this line. tot n °es- examined—The petition of the Town-council was th i e„ e ornorate act, but the act of individuals ; did not hear 11 4. th e same parties signed a petition for and against this kr. B e the • nion--Is a magistrate of the West Riding, and is in Pr n rad,e of flax-spinning at Leeds. Was of opinion that the tt:"sect line was of the greatest importance to the trade of lit di e , k r b ri 'liff, a resident at Wortley, and an extensive dealer r `As,„ gave evidence in favour of the line. Of a "-Irant, another resident of Wortley, and a surveyor ti l e Portion of the township, agreed with Mr. Cliff that i iir r eat Riding line was the more preferable of the two. inth : ,_ ll . Carr, a cloth manufacturer, living at Little Moor , ab n : township of Pudsey, said the population of Pudsey was 41,11!10,000, most of whom were in favour of the West line. OC r e • T,Aiar intimated that this closed their evidence for 1, 1° the districts through which their line passed. e Committee then adjourned. Group DD. ea se h,Committee met at twelve o'clock in room No. 14, and t e i t ` te mted of M r . P ar ker (Sheffield), Chairman; Mr. Mon - A t Gore, Sir P. Egerton, Lord Ebrington, and Mr. East. kw first there were no arrangements made for the accom %dation of the reporters, but on a representation being k iv ? to that effect to Mr. Parker, the Chairman, he very ` 4 3' directed that accommodation should be provided th en , Th • Gl a.s e railway comprised in group DD. are the Caledonian, be,gcnr, Dumfries, and Carlisle Clydesdale Junction, Edin 4. and Glasgow, and Scottil Central. It a a great deal of preliminary discussion, it was agreed i t he Scottish Central, and the Edinburgh and Glasgow begin 1101 110 be taken into consideration. Both are corn ig lin es Oft' JOh - 11:%11, of Kinkardine, and some of the inhabitants 4 r er t,b, petitioned against the Scottish Central scheme. the Cockburn, Mr. Talbot, and Mr. Hope, appeared for keto„, ttish line, Mr. M`Neill appeared for the Edinburgh ttp- Glasgow line ; Sir Thomas Philips and Mr. Hildyard Fared for the Dumfries line. h iti r; TALBOT stated the case on behalf of the Scottish Cen lie. fi ne- He said that the object of the p ro j ectors of this li e pas to make a line of railway, which was to be forty kee,rieg in length, reversing the natural order,. and com rek Pr from the north ; this line might be said pass I N Perth, by Strathedon, and through Stirling, till it 111 eated in two places with the Edinburgh and Glasgow , f ern pe western point, being a place called Castlecary, which the extreme terminus of the Caledonian Railway th e e - n-ks the north, the distance being 18 miles;from Glasgow, • al t, as terri point being at Falkirk, 24 miles from Euinburgh, • g ev ,"'„t it might be said to bisect the Edinburgh and Glas iisov„,"ne- The estimate for the construction of the line was and there were no engineering difficulties along 141 Ch et There were 155,0 00 souls alo n g the lin e , a nd if the th e -et extended to a distance of 10 miles on each side of ae e, and to 20 miles f , rom the ter One of the advantaminus it would cames of Population of 700000 souls. g W th e line was, that it would get rid of the ferries e Frith of Forth and the Frith of Tay. N ee l large amount of passengers was exp ected. Be t( 4 1 midee and Glasgow there was a considerable traffic in r,, l ' t Peeted. From Dundee to Glasjow a large amount vey. l , - " , Manse sacking, and Ealtic produce would be con kid from Glasgow to Dundee, colonial produce, Irish c l i tee , and grain would be conveyed. Between Perth the I - NW there would be a traffic from the former to fronlatter place in grain, meal, and manufactured goods, and and % h e latter to the former place in ax, iron, e "ial produce. It would afford a cheap means toy,l;'. 4ll eYance for the Bannockburn coals to Perth, l ell place the supply of coals was inconvenient and ex re, having to be carted twenty-five miles. There were froa l i r e against the Bill from Mr. Johnson, of Kincardine, ace eh 'ertun inhabitants of Perth, who opposed the Bill on • and " pe.. n t of the proposed scheme interfering with the North Prie n -vu til Inch ; but he begged to say that the pro le f " r e generally of the counties of Perth and Stirling were iPttr of the Bill. lin. "Winos . appeared for the Edinburgh and Northern of d ' sa d begged of the Committee to reserve a right to him! eeni s 'examining the witnesses in support of the Scottish ktal line_ with respect to a certain clause in t he Bill. r • PonsomiT claimed a similar right on behalf of Lord k rA rd, the Chairman of the Dundee and Perth line. kaitL A S ,__ i thlY , Provost of Perth, was then called and ex ototte'' support of the facts stated by Mr. Talbot, and was th e 'examined by Mr. Tytler, who appeared in support of li ee Potition from those inhabitants of Perth who opposed the et e „ Q n account of interfering with the South Inch. The ef the evidence of this gentleman was, that Perth t:at — ,, n e considerably benefited by the proposed railway ; tir~p`' - 'e inch near the town was used as a place of recrea pte,Land that it would be occupied to a certain extent by the 1,;`..' . 3 ed rail way . Peaqeorge Buchanan, the owner of a cotton mill near ga'7e testimony corroborative of the evidence of the witriCss ; after which the Committee adjourned t ill "'Ve o'clock O. morrow. )11 4 ' 4 01031_1;N, URNLEY, ACCRINGTON, AND C 13-- ; OR EAST LANCASHIRE RAILWAY. Groi9 D. t~ohe adjourned Committee rile:: this afternoon at half-past in th and immediately proceeded tel business ; Mr. Bernal t 9hair. directed regulating the maximum o rates had - l a ad been to be added to the Bill, and which thel,'" e e, a preared by Mr. Coates, the agent, since meetingTha of the Committee, was submitted. by him. t i.. Use°. 'lse limits the tolls for first-class passengers,ainndcltuiciiiirdng. el ms ' Carriage, &c., to 4d. per mile ; and for l 'ate 4 58 engers carriages will be provided se t c o o t n ravel at the 14 I d. twelve miles per hour, and the tolls will be restricted The Per mile. • air ' c lause was ordered to be mad e p art of the Bill. pIicP•kGET, who, it will be recollected, made an ap ;)n -- ,,`„,7, 11 a few days Iv to the Committee to be heard liner`L it ion, in opposition to the B lackburn and Colne C 41 1 . 1" behalf of the Manchester, Bury, and . Bolton T 1 47, and Rallwa Cman renewed his applicaton. abuse to whichyhe objected bad been passed during the seq e ;. ee „er the Parliamentary agent, and himself; and, eon tion they had no opportunity of opp osin g its introduc- obj ee ',",w the Bill. He would wish now to p roceed with his Aft `,.!eins if it met the views of the Committee. A t eonsider a ble discussion, atro el "'llAihmAx stated that, locking at the matter in the solution light, the Committee could cotne to no other Petir than to refuse to hear counsel in support of the ea na rl, Presented by the Manchester, Bury, and Bolton th e 1 11 C ompany, unless the permission of the promoters of tainea a ' b urn , Accrington, and Colne Railway was first ob- The clause which Mr. Paget appeared to oppose had thled the Chairman's signature, and had become part of op t , join, and, therefore, the Committee were unanimously of n he could not proceed with his opposition. Wa v ; ) i agent for the Blackburn, Accrington, and Colne Rail- Wf r. . a p ving refused to give his consent for counsel to be heard,. and. pan refused requested that the presentation of the petition lion' e decision of the Committee with regard to his applich- Ti might be entered on the minutes. f ew e Cl imaNtax acquiesced ; and, after the introduction of more clauses, orc..lercti the Bill to be reported. Va s t ; I I IIE LEEDS AND 1. IRADFORD RAILWAY •P n .Proceeded with. l atin • ritt the agent, introducer; a short clause for regu and g e gradients to meet the views o f the Board of Trade, rai e ,, , V ° a few more clauses for limi:ing the maximum Ch air - clauses were all passed without oppositiori, ar..d the man ordered the Bill to be reported. T heb last Bill brought forward was the Whi e P C BURN, DARWEN, AND BOLTON RAILWAY, p t _ after the int ro d uc ti on of several clauses of a similar ure to those already alluded to, and which were passed 'N ut oPPoion, was also ordered be reported. to a u a terminated the business of the to Committee with regard The the schemes comrised in group D. Bills will be reported on Thursday next. Committee S. AZ" Co mmittee, Mr. Stu artWortley, Chairm an , re - assemb l ed _ th e . 411 3' at half-pa s t t wo o ' c l oc k in room 17, to dispose of ifittUaining clauses in te t E BELFAST AND BALLYMENA RAILWAY. 111,,, char EXANDER proposed that the maximum rate of tolls ilges on the line should be Sid. per mile. AT C ° ,ll mittee were of opinion that 3d. would answer Purp ose . rate after some discussion was agreed to. AtilZveral other clauses were then gone into, and after some Ilti tuents, they passed. THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, APRIL 29, 1845. The Bill having been gone through, The CHAIRMAN said that he would report specially to the House in respect to the report of the Board of Trade regard ing this Bill. The Board of Trade had reported that the Belfast and Ballymena Railway would be both expensive and unremunerative, and that the line of railway would have but a single line of rails, whereas the evidence showed that there would be a double line of rails. After this decision the Committee adjourned to the 20th of May. Sub-Committee, No. 1. This Committee re-assembled at one o'clock, Mr. Strutt in the chair. LIVERPOOL AND ORMSKIRK RAILWAY. This adjourned case came on to day, and the remaining allegations were ;gone through. Standing orders not com plied with in several instances. RICHMOND AND STAINES RAILWAY. The petition for this Bill came on to-day; the prepara tory forms were gone through, and the further hearing was adjourned till twelve o'clock to morrow. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF 1' CHEQUER, A i il 28. TRIAL AT BAR.-THE GREAT DISTILLERY CASE. THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL V. GEORGE SMITH. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Edgar •Eldrake examined by Mr. JARvis—Was a surveyor of Excise. In consequence of differences between Mr. Smith and the officer in charge sf the premises, respecting the dip of the receiver, witness and another officer went on Monday, the 30th March, to test the dip. He found nearly a tenth more than Drinkwater and Batten had found. Mr. Smith accounted for the increase, by the dripping of water into the receiver. Witness tried by holding a quart jug under the pipe when the water dripped back, to ascertain whether the fact might be as Mr. Smith had represented. Found that the jug was full in seven minutes, and that wouldallow the whole quantity in the pipe to drip back in six or seven hours. Cross-examined by Mr. KELLY—Found that there was a reduction of the strength of the spirits from Saturday t ) Monday. The difference was equal to seventeen gallons on the whole. The Excise did not make any allowance on that account. They adhered to the dip as found by Batten •1 Saturday. Re-examined by Mr. JARVIs—The Excise put an addi tional cock on the receiver to prevent the trader from running in water and working of spirit. The difference of seventeen gallons of spirit would be fully accounted for by evaporation between Saturday and Monday. Thomas Frankish, examined by Mr. WILDE :—Was a sur veyor of Excise. In March, 1844, went to Mr. Smith's dis tillery with the officers, Cameron, Drinkwater, and Batten. I saw Mr. George Smith, when ameron asked him if there was not communication between the distillery and the recti fving-house ? Cameron added, that no doubt Mr. James Smith had told him what he {Cameron) had said the pre vious day. Mr. Smith said, that Cameron had no right to assume that his brother ;had told him anything. Cameron again asked, was there any communication between the two premises. Mr. Smith said there was, for water, which supplied the whole neighbourhood, by pipes connected with the Com pany's main. Witness was present at the experiment men tioned by the other witnesses. He saw the spirits passed from the vat No. 8 in the distillery to the vat No. 17 in the rectifying- house. On a subsequent day witness examined the Water Company's pipes, and found that they had no connexion with the pipes in Mr. Smith's premises. Cross- examined by Mr. MARTIN—When Mr. Smith said to Cameron that the pipes communicating between the two premises was for the conveyance of water, Smith went away with Cameron, but witness did not know it was for the purpose of showing him the course of the pipes. When the experi ment was made upon the pipe, it commenced at one o'clock. The first trial was with water. That was procured from the tank at the top of the house. They did not think them selves ready for the experiment with spirits until five o'clock. They made those experiments with spirits, of which two were failures. The third experiment, which was success ful, did not commence fulfil eight o'clock. Did not know whether any material repairs were made upon the cocks from five o'clock to eight, for he was not present. He was chiefly in the rectifying-house. When the water came into the vat No. 17, it ran for five or six minutes. The spirits then came over and continued running for about 25 minutes. The officers then ran about 1,100 gallons of water to clear the pipes of all the spirit. That was done for the satisfaction of all parties, that there might be no doubt that the spirits had all been driven out. Witness has been a long time in the Kxcise, and has often found great variation in the dip of the receiver. Surveys Muir and Co.'s distillery, and sometimes, but not often, finds a variation in the dip. The Soetcrron-GENERAL—Do you find a variation of so much as two-tenths. The LORD CHIEF BARON—Mr. Solicitor, you had better not go into that, which, for aught we know, will be another issue for trial.—(A laugh.) It is enough to take his an swer, that he does find variations. By the Comes—They found an apparent loss of more than 100 gallons of spirits after the experiment. But that was accounted for by the imperfect indications of the hygrometer at the low strength of the spirits, mixed with so much water. Made several experiments subsequently to ascertain what the apparent loss would be on spirits mixed with water in various proportions. The result of this was, to account satisfactorily for the ap parent loss. It was also found that there was lime in the vat, and that would prevent the hygrometer from acting rightly. If mud or dregs were mixed with the spirit, the action of the hygrometer would be disturbed. That instrument acts with certainty only upon pure spirit, and for that reason it is never used upon the worts. It is the saccharometer that is used upon worts. Drinkwater and witness afterwards made an experiment upon the contents of the vat, which accounted fully for the decrease. Their Lordships and the jury then retired for refreshment. When the Court resumed, the SOLICITOR-GENERAL called Cameron, who deposed to the same statements as those which had been made by the previous witnesses as to the conversation with Mr. Smith, and the experiment upon the pipe. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said he had only called the wit ness to give the Learned Counsel for the defence an oppor tunity of cross examination. Mr. WArsost then asked the witness whether he had made any notes ?—He had, but they contained nothing but dates. He had them not with him, but they were id a place at a short distance from the Court. [The witness was then told to produce the notes, and he withdrew for the purpose.] The LORD CHIEF BARON—MT. Watson, if you produce the notes, you must put them in evidence, for the witness has not used them here as vouchers. Mr. WATSON declined to make the notes evidence, and, on the witness's return, proceeded to cross-examine him—Wit ness believed that he commenced the experiment with water, at five o'clock, and not at one ; but he would not swear that any one who stated that the experiment was commenced at one o'clock had stated a falsehood. He had a very good me mory, and he believed that be did not commence until five o'clock ; but he would not swear to it. Mr. Milne, civil engineer to the New River Company examined by the!SoLiciTon• GENERAL—Had made a survel• of the premises belonging to Mr. Smith in company with a per son named Fox. The model in court is a correct representa tion of the premises, on a scale of an eighth of an inch to the foot. The witness then described, with the aid of the model, the course of the pipe communicating from the distillery to the rectifying-house, and explained'that by stopping oft cer tain cocks and inserting others, the water -might be turned off, and wash could be transmitted from' the distillery to .the rectifying-house. That after those orifices had been closed the wash might be drawn out by sypllbns, which would draw out the wash by side , orifices. There was a screw on No. 8, to which a screw might* be attached ; and opposite to this there was an orifice, to - which`there was also a screw attached, and these screws corresponded, one being a male and the other a female screw. There were three, nozzles in the premises, one over the Sink. one over the cistern, and one over the pipe to which he had alluded. There was a commu nication on the vat No. 8, which might be entirely emptied through the pipe which he had described as commu nicating between one part of the premises and another. There was a communication between the sink and the recti fying -house, but a longer nozzle would be required than now exists. There is a communication also between the vat under the sink and the 'cistern, by the attachment of a longer nozzle, and the spirit could also be drawn from the other vats as from the vat No. 8. If the principle of a syphon were applied to the pipes, there would be water drawn off to the extent of 300 gallons, and if the longer leg of the syphon were applied to the spirit and the shorter to the water, the spirit would immediately follow after the water had been drawn off, and this spirit might be pumped into any of the vats. There was what was called a dead pipe, there being no outlet at the end of it, but there were several flanges on the side of the pipe to which pipes might be applied, and he conceived that the branch pipes were old and the flanges of recent origin comparatively. There was no con nexion between the East London Water -works Company and the pipe which ran between the distillery and the rec tifying premises, and there was nothing between the main in Buck's-row and the rectifying premises. To a question from the CHIEF BARON, the witness replied that there was no communication between the East London Water-works Company's main and the distillery premises. Knowing the premises, he believed that the whole of the water required for the rectifying premises could be supplied to the whole of the works, except for the still heads through the trough in the middle, but by raising the trough eight feet, the whole of the water might be poured into the still head. To the inquiries of Mr. F. KELLY, Mr. Milne replied that he was aware that a large cistern—one that could supply many thousand gallons—would be required to be erected, and that there was no tank on the premises that could possibly supply the requirement at present. There were three tanks on the premises, and two establish ments were required to supply the premises, and the whole of the water must come from the main of the Water-works Company,: &c. The tanks on the premises were supplied from the main, and it would be necessary to make great alterations to put machinery on the trough so as to draw off the water. In order to supply the still heads, there must be pipes from the trough through the worm tube to the still heads and the cistern must be enlarged in order to render this commu nication available, but if this communication were to be made efficient, the whole of the premises might be supplied. The large reservoir was only made last year, the top of the old reservoir being three feet lower than the trough. At the present time there was no part of the premises suppllied from the trough, except that which passed into the worm-tube, and the remainder ran to waste. There was a pipe which entered the wash reservoir, which could convey the wash into the rectifying-house, which entered the reservoir very near the top, and it would be necessary to have the reservoir full be fore the supply could be made to the rectifying-house; but the pipe went to the bottom of the reservoir, and he conceived that the power of suction would draw up the wash from the lower level. There was a gas pipe which ran on a corre sponding level with this pipe, but he did not know what this pipe supplied. Mr. Charles Fox, a civil engineer upon the Birmingham Railway, had taken the level of the premises with Mr. Milne. He had made an examination of the wash reservoir, and he agreed with Mr. Milne in the levels stated in that gentle man's evidence. Mr. Thomas Kirby was employed in laying down the pipes in 1836, during which year the rectifying-house was built, but lie knew nothing of the blind pipe. He was em ployed two days in laying down those pipes. In reply to the CHIEF BARON, the witness stated that h e Ikncw nothing of the box on the main. This concluded the case for the Crown. Mr. KELLY stated that as it was necessary to substitute one model for another, he thought it would be better to ad journ the case, especially as if he began then be should occupy as much time to-morrow as if he began now. The LORD CHIEF BARON considered that the request of the Learned Counsel was quite reasonable. The SOLIMAR-GENERAL had stated to his Learned Friend that he had uilly shortened the case, and he should, therefore, be willing to accede to such adjournment. The Foreman of the Jury said, that though the jury were aware that these adjournments were quite necessary, yet their time was very valuable, and the sacrifice of it of great im -1 Pertance to themselves; he should Le glad to know whether they might calculate on the case being concluded to-morrow ? Mr. KELLY said that he thought he could conclude the state ment of the defendants to-morrow; but as the Counsel for the Crown would reply, he feared the case could not be con cluded then. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that he would make his statement as short as possible ; and that, if not to-morrow, at least the case would be concluded on Wednesday. There being no other cases to be taken to-day, the Court adjourned till ten o'clock to-morrow. PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS. MONDAY, APRIL 28. The following Bills were presented and read a first time : London, Chatham, and North Kent Railway. South Eastern Railway (Ashford to Hastings). South Eastern Railway (Tunbridge to Tunbridge Wells). South Eastern Railway (Widening and Extension of the London and GreenwiCli'llailway). London and Norwich Direct Railway. North Wales Mineral Railway. The following Bills were read a second time, and committed, and referred to the Committee of Selection : Grand Junction Railway. Sheffield and Rotherham Railway. Runcorn and Preston Brook Railway and Docks. North \Vales Railway. The Leeds and Thirsk Railway Bill,—Petition for addi tional provision ; referred to the Select Committee on peti tions for Private Bills. NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE. Glasgow, Barrhead, and Neilston Direct Railway,—Second reading, Friday, May 2. Bristol and Exeter tlailway Branches,—Second reading, Friday, May 2. Dunstable and London and Birmingham Railway,—Select Committee on project, adjourned till Thursday, May 1, at twelve. Bedford and London and Birmingham Railway,—Select Committee on project, adjourned till Thursday, May 1, at twelve. Midland Railways (Syston to Peterborough),—Select Committee on project, adjourned till Thursday, May 1, at twelve. London and Brighton Railway,—Committee on petition, adjourned till Wednesday, April 30. Portarlington and Tullamore Railway,—Committee on pe tition adjourned till Monday, May 5. Staines and Richmond Railway,—Committee on petition, adjourned til ]Wednesday, April 30. Leeds and Thirsk Railway,—Committee on petition for ad ditional provision, Wednesday, April 30. Blackburn, Darwen, and Bolton Railway,—Report, Thurs day, May 1. Leeds and Bradford Railway Extension (Shipley to Cohie), —Report, Thursday, May 1. Huddersfield and Sheffield Junction Railway,—Committee on Bill (revived), Wednesday, April . 30, at three. London, Worcester, and South Staffordshire Railway (Dudley and Sedgley Branch),—Second reading, Friday, May 2. London, Worcester, and South Staffordshire Railway (Dudley and Wolverhampton Branch),—Second reading, Friday, May 2. London, Chatham, and North Kent Railway,—Second reading, Friday, May 2. Bristol and Gloucester and Birmingham and Gloucester Railway,—Committee on petition, postponed sine die. Birmingham and Gloucester Railway Acts Amendment, — Committee on petition, adjourned till Wednesday, April 30. THE PRESS AND THE RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (From the Times.) The House of Commons in theory regards it as a breach of privilege for strangers to be present ; in practice it not only pea. mits, but affords the most ample facility for their presence, and this is managed by allowing the whole public to have entrance by proxy, the proxies of the public being the newspaper reporters, whose presence the House not only tolerates, but of whose inatten tion or inaccuracy it is apt most grievously to complain. By this arrangement thousands, nay millions, are enabled without fatigue and inconvenience to themselves and others, without crowding into a somewhat narrow house, to learn all that takes place. Even here the advantage in having reporters does not end ; the public, and each individual of the public, is enabled in some manner to realise Sir Boyle Roche's supposed impossibility of " being, like a bird, in two places at once;" indeed, we might say, in twenty; for when the House is subdivided into committees, a citizen of London may attend one, or a gentleman in Cumberland, or Cornwall, may stay at home, and not take the trouble of attend ing any; and yet virtually, and by his proxy of the press, be present at any, or at all, if he likes. It is, therefore, the citizen's or the countryman's privilege that is in question, and not simply the reporter's, when a Committee takes upon itself to deviate from the usual—and usual because useful—course; and to exclude the gentlemen of the press. It is impossible in the present day to overrate the national importance of railways. Of all these stupendous undertakings, perhaps Group X contains the most vast. If the Committee, in the constitution of its Chairman and members, is not quite so pre-eminent for talent and habits of business as the Immense amount of property and of public and private interests involved would render de sirable, It is of all the more consequence that its pro ceedings should be open to the fullest observation. If any where, here, where above one thousand miles of rail way are to come under discussion, the public, and particularly that large proportion of the public whose property will be dissected and affected, are entitled to be present and hear all that taken place. Such a thing is, of course, not to be literally attained, but, as we have remarked, it may be substantially through the press. The pr.ss, as will be seen by our report elsewhere, are from this Committee most absurdly excluded. The group which this ex. elusive Committee is to consider contains the London and York line, the Cambridge and Lincoln, the Direct Northern, and several other most important lines ; and that our readers, if they are pre vented from knowing the merits of these different railways, as brought out by evidence and discussion, may at all events have the advantage of knowing what must be of no little interest to such of them as have shares in or property near to these lines, namely, what sort of conjurors are to tell their fortunes, we here repeat the list of the Committee :—lt consists of Lord Courtenay, Mr. Darby, Mr. P. Scrope, Mr. M`Geachy, and Mr. B. Wall! PROGRESS OF RAILROADS IN THE NORTH OF IRELAND. We perceive from the Dublin correspondence of this morn ing's Herald, that another new railway, purposing to tra verse a considerable portion of the opulent and prosperous county of Down, is about being launched under very favour: able auspices. This is the natural result of the success of the projectors of the Newry and Enniskillen line : from the moment that excellent and much needed measure was fii at broached, until the Bill was read a second time on Friday last, all opposition having been withdrawn The two important towns of Newry and Armagh, between which an immense traffic already exists, being about to be coupled by railroad, has rendered Armagh the focus of several em bryo lines verging to the north and north-west, any and all of which must materially enhance the value of the Newry line. Considerable interest attaches in this country to the completion of the Newry scheme, as opening up the nearest route, not only to the north, bat to the whole of the west of Ireland; but to give adequate effect to that in tention, a daily communication should be established between Liverpool and Newry by more powerful steamers than those now on the station, which only ply twice a week. When this shall be accomplished, as no doubt it will be, not only will :the Newry and Enniskillon line realise the national ad vantages anticipated from it by the powerful local proprietary who first took it up, but it will prove an infinitely more lucrative investment than the present shareholders have any idea of, though the shares are at a very excellent premium, which is rather to be wondered at, see ing that nearly all the original holders purchased with a view to keep, and have kept. We are glad to observe that all the Irish lines, and especially the Irish northern lines, are advancing in favour with the English capitalists. This will be the case in a more marked degree every suc ceeding day, as the recent beneficial alterations in the bank ing laws of the sister country become more apparent. No measure could have been devised more conducive to the pros perity of the northern Irish lines, than a cessation of the mo nopoly of the Bank of Ireland. CO WES, MONDAY. WRECK OF THE FRENCH BRIG EUGENIE, OF DUNKIRK.-It appears that her ballast shifted, and she became so leaky that the crew could not keep her clear, and they run her on shore at Brook, at the back of the Isle of Wight. She had five feet water in the hold when she struck the ground, which was at seven o'clock LAI. on the 27th. They effected a landing, and most of the material will be saved; but as it was blowing a gale right on the shore the ♦essel will become a wreck. Capt. Russell, of the Queen steamer, which arrived at Southamp. ton on the 26th, reports that when off Portland at eight A.N. he saw a small sloop.rigged vessel, with square topsail, square sail, mainsail, and jib set, running with the W.S.W. wind for the Chan nel ; within the Race and the Bill of Portland a sea broke over her, she broached to, fell over on her broadside, and instantly sunk. The steamer rounded to and got ready her boats, but the unfortunate crew were never seen. After a short time the vessel was observed bottom upwards ; the steamer went round her, but nothing but a few floating spars could be seen. . . LP • Prince Albert has purchased the Woodhouse estate, which in. eludes the Isle of Wight racecourse, and the whole of the land from Osborne and Barton to King's Quay Creek, about 1,400 acres. Her Majesty and the Prince are expected down about the Bth of May. The furniture at Osborne House was to have been removed before the Ist; but application has been made to Lady Isabella Blackford to allow it to remain till after the 10th of May, her Majesty's furniture not having arrived. The Woodhouse es tate was the property of the Hon. W. H. A. A'Court Holmes,M.P. for the Isle of Wight. It cannot be too generally known that this gentleman has for some time discharged his gamekeepers, and de dared the game on his extensive estates to be the property of the tenants on whose crops they feed. Newly-invented Spectacles, Telescopes, Opera Glasses, Microscopes, &c. The artificial aid afforded to the sight by Lenses, is one of the most valuable gifts de rived from science, and it is indeed of vital importance that the adoption of Spectacles to imperfect vision should be regulated on proper principles. Messrs. S. and B. bolornons, 39, Albemarle-street, Piccadilly, directly op posite the York Hotel, having devoted their whole lives to this branch of science, and their long extensive prac tice, have enabled them to invent Spectacle Lenses upon a new construction, which have gained universal approba tion. Immediately they are placed before imperfect vision, that mist and dullness which appear before the eyes is at once removed, every objeot becomes c!ear and distinct, so that the most aged, imperfect sight becomes bright and brilliant, and is brought to its youthful, natural and original state. Achromatic Tele scopes, Opera Glasses, Microscopes, &c. &c., of the same kind of Lenses to surpass any ever invented. Their Invisible Voice Conductor Sound Magnifiers, for deaf persons, is not the least perceptible nor more uncomfort able than having a piece of wool in its place ; they give immediate relief to old standing extreme cases of deaf ness. Those valuable inventions have gained the un qualified approbation of above 400 of the principal mem bers of the medical profession. Caution.—Messrs. S. and B. Solomons, opticians, are not in any way connected with a person of the same name in their immediate neighbourhood, nor in any part of the country. To prevent mistakes be cautious, and observe, only to be had at 39, Albemarle-street, Piccadilly, opposite the York Hotel. Mas. SALMON. -- We regret that this celebrated vocalist is suffering from the extremest poverty. To those who re. member how splendid were her talents but a few years since, we feel assured that any further appeal to their sym pathies will be unnecessary than •the fact that she is at the present moment in a state of almost hopeless misery. A former sum of 1201. was raised by subscription, and invested in an annuity of 12/., which is paid to her in weekly instalments of four shillings and sevenpence halfpenny. And this sum has been her sol e means of dependence. Her Ma j est y , with her usual benevolenc e, has transmitted a sum towards her relief— yrterea to ther treasurer, best advantage to r„ and will, we feel and many charitably dis p osed p ersons have followed the august i nfo m example. satisfied o Air. t the indigent and aged son g stress. Subscri p tions will be received at the principal music shops.—Morning Post. devote any John suOmxse le rd a l s theec re c eive v su FREE-TRADE BAZAAR.-1• he value of the contri butions prepared for the great Free-trade and Anti-corn-law Eazaar about to be held in Covent-garden Theatre Is already above 20,0004 SUMMARY OF NEWS AND Vttiatr Optutost. " 14 1 4 runs muy read." FOREIGN. The Duke de Bourdeaux and the Duchess d'Angouleme arrived at Trieste on the I Gth instant. The Duchess was to take passage in the next steam-packet for Ancona, and to proceed thence to Loretto, to visit the santa casa of the Holy Virgin. W e learn by a letter of the 14th inst., from Christiana, in Norway, that the Prince Royal of Sweden, who had been suffering from a violent cold, was completely recovered. On the 15th the King, Queen, and family were to leave for Stockholm ; but' his MfijeSty was expected to return in the autumn to close the Storthing. The Minister of :Marine had forwarded orders to the com mander of the French naval station at Bourbon, to send one of the vessels under his comm an d t o Bu s sora, to take on board the sculptured monuments lately discovered at Nineveh by Messrs. Botta and Flandin. Those remains had been removed on rafts as far as Bagdad, and thence to Bussora. A hall in the Palace of the Louvre is now fitting up for their reception. The Constitutionnel says that M. Guizot has got leave of absence for a month, that he may have the repose necessary for the recovery of his health, and that M. Duchatel will in the meantime carry on the business of the foreign department. Friday is fixed on for the debate on the question of the Jesuits. M. Came, Berryer, and Lamartine have already inscribed their names as intending to speak on one side ; and M. Thiers, Barrot, and Dupin on the other. The Prefect of Police has published a new ordonnance con cerning dugs running loose in the streets of Paris. It has annexed to it recommendations from the Board of Health as to the treatment of bites from dogs. The first measures to be taken are to press the wound strongly, to force out the poison, to cauterise it, or at least wash it well with alealine water, and afterwards without loss of time to call in the aid of a medical man. The Constitutionnel mentions the arrival at Paris of two Commissioners from Hayti, whose mission is connected with ;le financial questions long pending between that State and 'ranee. A letter from Lucerne of the 23d inst , in the New Zurich Gazette, says Yesterday the council of war condemned several persons who, when summoned to take up arms, had not repaired to their posts, but had joined the expedition of the free corps. The Court condemned the greater part to five years' imprisonment." The following is taken from L'Afrique :—" Abd-el-Kader is still on the Morocco territory. The Emperor has really ordered him to quit his states, but the answer of the Emir was, that the soil belonged to GTO, and that he had as much right as the Emperor to remain upon it." LAW AND POLICE. Alfred Ashton and another, who had been committed by a magistrate of the county of Huntingdon to the county gaol for refusing to enter into recognizances to keep the peace, were brought up by habeas corpus in the Court of Queen's Bench, and discharged. At Guildhall, a fellow named Jackson was committed for picking pockets at the execution. At Marylebone, James Goff was placed at the bar before Mr. ltawlinson, charged with having stolen a copper, the property of Mr. Cheston, landlord of the Rose of Nor mandy, High-street, and fully committed. Richard Green, described as a clerk, and living with his father in East-street, Red Lion :square, was charged at Bow street, with robbing his employers, Messrs. Pickering and Co., solicitors, of No. 4, Stone..buildings, Lincolns' Inn, of upwards of 181. in notes, gold , and silver. The case was clearly proved, but the prisoner was remanded for a week, in order that the evidence might be completed. Mr. Benjamin Myers, a tailor and woollen-draper of Ox ford-street, appeared at Lambeth, to answer a charge of furious driving, and running over George Jones, a child of five years of age. After commenting severely on the fact that the defendant, after having run over the child, had driven on furiously for the purpose of endeavouring to avoid detection, inflicted on him the highest penalty the law al lowed, viz., forty shillings, in addition to the expenses of the witnesses. This he said was a very inadequate punishment for the offence. At the Thames police-court Thomas Thompson, aged 29, who has been long known to the police as one of the most expert cracksmen in the metropolis, was on remand, charged with burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Mr. William Findlay, a revenue-officer, of No. 11, Catherine-street, Poplar, and stealing property to the amount of 20/. therefrom, and after further evidence he was committed for trial. COUNT—rASIZIONADLE. Last night one of the most splendid balls of the season was given by the Viscountess Palmerston at the Noble Lord's residence on Carlton Terrace. There were present the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, the Grand Duchess Stephanie of Baden, the Hereditary Grand Duke and Grand Duchess of Mecklenburgh Strelitz, Prince Ernest of Hesse Phillipsthal, Prince Edward of Saxe Weimar, the Duke de Broglie all the foreign Ambassadors, and nearly 400 other persons of rank and fashion. The Marquis and Marchioness of Lansdowne's dinner party, at Lansdowne House, was given to a party of eighteen, including the Duke de Broglie, and Viscountand Viscountess Leveson. The Countess of Longford had an elegant ball also last night, at her Ladyship's mansion in Bruton-street. It was expressly for the introduction of her Ladyship's daughter, Lady Georgians Pakenham to society. The Duke of Cam bridge honoured the Countess by attending the ball, and about Mk of the nobility were likewise present. The Earl and Countess of Wilton gave a princely enter tainment., at their mansion in Grosvenor-square, when they were honoured with the company of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, the Hereditary Grand Duke and Grand Duchess of Mecklenburgh Strelitz, and Prince George of Cambridge. The Royal Prince received the cordial congra tulations of the entire party on that Prince's return from Corfu. _ _ _ Lord Frederick Fitclarence, who left Etal House on the 24th instant, has repaired to Buxton for a short sojourn. Sir Edward and Lady Kerrison hove arrived at their resi dence in Great Stanhope-street, froth Brighton. The Marchioness of Londonderry intends to give a large party on Tuesday, the 27th of May. The Marchioness of Normanbir has left the Clarendon Hotel for Mulgrave Castle, near Whitby, Yorkshire. The Earl and Countess of Lisburne have arrived in town. The Earl of Glasgow has left town to attend the Newmar ket Spring Meeting. Lord and Lady Cottenharn and the Hon. Misses Pepys have arrived at their new residence in Park-lane. MISCELLANEOUS. The contemplated retirement and promotion of naval officers, of which we have heard so much, will take place probably about August next. The number it will include, and the details of the measure, are not yet determined. Mr. Sturge has withdrawn from the British and Foreign School Society because it has accepted pecuniary assistance from the Government. This evening the celebrated Phillippe of Paris will present the first of a series of his extraordinary exhibition of Blanche Magic, which, if the Parisian journals do not grossly exagge rate, far exceeds in astounding effect anything of the kind hitherto witnessed in this country. FLANDERS MAIL. BRUSSELS, APRIL 24.—The Mons Gazette says, " We have just learned that Mr. George Rinnes, the engineer to the Anglo-Belgian Company formed at London by the name of ' Company of the Railway of the Dendre and of the Canal frotn Jemappes to Alost,' arrived on Wednesday morning at Mons, and immediately pro ceeded to the line, accompanied by Mr. Dubois Niboul, plan, and by Messrs. Tercelin, Sigart , tandhe author ßrunn e o a f the Directors of the Company. ih as sured that this able engineer will also vi We aro sit our coal basin. It seems that the project of this canal will be shortly carried into effect." The following is the final result of the discussions of the Central Section of the Chamber of Representatives, appointed to examine the project of law relative to the duty on corn. No change is proposed with respect to bar le y , r y e, an d oats. As for wheat, when the average p rices a r e te dt l it 2 y f., 4 s . between 15 and 20f, per hectolitre, the duty will be 37f. 50c. for the 1,000 kilogrammes (equal to 121 hectolitres). When the prices are from 20f. to 22f. the import duty The number of 2 r 4 ed f. uc t e h d e i ° ll e. be only 3 th c e prices are from markets for delivering the average will be increased to will 22f to 24f. 22; the averages will be taken once in a fortnight. TRIESTE, APRIL 17.—The Duke of Bordeaux and the Duchess of Angouleme arrived here yesterday. The Duchess proceeded $n the steamer to Ancona, whence she means to go to Loretto. About the middle of next month the whole of the French corps v.ill leave Goritz, it is said, for ever. BELGIAN FUNDS.—BRUssEts, APRIL 25. Actual Debt, 2% per Cent ..... ... • • • • • Rothschild's Loan, Five per Cen t •••• • • " Loan of Thirty Millions, Four per Cent -• • . 98 Ditto Three per Cent ..... .. ........ .• . Ditto Thirty-seven Millions, ditto ••• • • • 77 Ditto, ditto, 1840 . • • • • . .. . • , Ditto, ditto, 1844 . Ditto of the City, 1843 . • 102% • Ditto, 1833 Bank of Belgium • —Brussels Papers, April 26. AUSTRIAN FUNDS.—VIENNA, Argil. 19. 5 per Cent. Metalliclues • • • • • • • • • • ... ... 113% 4 per Cent. ditto ••• • • ..... 102% 3 per Cent. ditto• ••••••• • • • • • • .......... 7s i 4 Loan, 1834 ....... •• • • ...... • • • • • • • • • • • 155 Ditto, 1839 .. • • •• •• •• •• •• 132% Bank Shares • • • • • • •••• • " • • • • •• • • • • • • 1652 E s t er hazy's Loan •••• • • • • • • .......... 58 IA 1 —Allgemeine Zeitung, April 22. Passengers, several emigrants to One of the Amer ican line of packet - ships, the Wellington, left the St. Katherine Docks yesterday for New York, the United States from the agricultural districts, and a fair cargo of British manufactured goods, la. The chang e o f w i n d f rom the with a large number of pawn including adverse quarter, in which it was so long almost stationary, has had the effect of bringing a large number of ves se l s o f a ll d escr i pt i ons and from every part of t he globe into the port, which had been de tained in the channel, and the docks and other places of commerce on the shores of the river now present a v er y b ust li ng appearance, and full employ has been given to the large h o d_ y of labourers con. nected with these establishments who were deprived of work for a very considerableperlod, and suffered a proportionate degree of privation in consequence. Tire BUDE LIGHTS IN TRAFALGAR -SQUARE.—The massive bronze lamps, constructed at Stevens and Son's, Darlington Works, Southwark, under the direction of 111 r. Barry, are com. pletcd, and will be erected without delay. They are four in num. ber ; the two at the southern angle. to be mounted on granite pillars; the others, which are to be placed on the terrace, are wholly of gun metal. They are all plain and substantial, but the lamps by which they are to be crowned are deserving of notice. These are of great magnitude and ponderous weight; the glass alone in them amounting to about 12 cwt. They are octagonal in shape, the centre comprising square plates of cut tlint-glass of un. usual clearness and solidity, the thickneat within the bevel amount. ing to an inch ; and the crown and base consisting each of sixteen triangular pieces of the same substance and density. The refrac tion of light occasioned by these numerous varieties of surface, all highly polished, is likely to occasion a very brilliant effect ; and in the event of another lamp being added, as proposed, to be placed between the fountains, some very novel appearances may perhaps be obtained, espec i a lly if the focus of either of the prisms should fall on the jets of water. THE MAILS.—On and after the Ist day of May next an alteration will take place in the time of starting the mails from London, by which nearly two hours will be gained between the metropolis and Edinburgh. This wall mainly be accomplished by the extra speed of the railway trains. It i s p r oposed by the General Post-office autho r ities that the mails going northwards shall be dispatched somewhat earlier, and that the malls from Edin burgh for London will leave later, thus givi ng am ple time to the People of the not th to answer their letters by return of post. This p r oposed alteration, when carried into effect, will be another proof of the anxiety and d e termlnatiou of the Postmaster.Cl en eral to afford the utmost dispatch and facility in the transit of letters and parcels. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, April 28. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. The Earl of RIPON brought in a Bill to amend the law relating to appeals from India. The Bill was read a first time. MAYNOOTH. Several Noble Lords presented petitions against the proposed grant to Maynooth. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from a Pres byterian congregation at Loumore, which the Noble Lord said complained of the horrors of Popery, but nevertheless in favour of the grant. IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT. The same NOBLE LORD presented a petition, numer ously signed, complaining of the Act passed last session for abolishing imprisonment for debt. The Duke of ILICIIMOND presented petitions to a similar effect from Sherborne, Shaftesbury, Cowes, Gosport, Leamington, Southampton, Portsea, Penzance, Bradford, Tunbridge, Devizes, and Andover. They were referred to the Select Committee on the Bill. MAYNOOTH, The Duke of CLEVELAND presented a petition from South Shields, in the county of Northumberland, in favour of the grant t. Maynooth; and from several places in Scotland against it. The Bishops of Down, Connor, and Dromore pre sented several petitions from Leitrim, Tipperary, and several other places in Ireland, against the grant to bi aynooth. UNION OF THE SEES OF ST. ASAPH AND BANGOR. Earl POWIS presented — petitions from Coventry, from towns in Devonshire, Dorsetshire, and Wiltshire, and from several places in Wales, against the union of these two sees. MAYNOOTII. The Bishop of EXETER presented several petitions 'rom Silverton and several other places against thegrant o Maynooth. TREATMENT OF CRIMINALS—NEWGATE. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE wished to bring before their Lordships' notice a matter which, in his opinion, involved a gross disgrace to the judicature of the country. His authority was only that of a newspaper, and he thought that it was not only calculated to excite an irre ligious impression, but to induce that which would be dis creditable to the law, and injurious to the administration of justice throughout the whole community. He alluded to a matter which had occurred at the gaol of Newgate only yesterday. In referring to this case he felt bound also to refer to a circumstance which had oc•• curred at the offices of public justice at the town of Aylesbury only the other day, and in doing so he was anxious that the authorities of the great city of London would imitate so good an example. He 6,rnd by the newspapers that the public yesterday were admitted to what was called the condemned sermon in Newgate. The report stated that in consequence of the arrangements of Mr. Cope, the governor, the public were admitted by tickets, and that not the slightest con fusion had ensued. The public were admitted at a quarter past ten, and at fifteen minutes after that time the prisoner 'locker was admitted and conducted to his seat. Shortly after that, Connor, who stood charged with a similar offence, was conducted to a seat opposite to that of Hockey. He was happy to find that the au thorities at Aylesbury bad acted with a much more judicious discretion, in abiding by the terms of their in structions. They had not been willing to pander to a prurient curiosity; and he was grieved to observe that the same discretion had not been exercised in the pre sent instance. It appeared that Connor, who was Com mitted for a similar offence to that for which locker was about to suffer, was conducted to a seat opposite to that occupied by the convict, and near to the pew of the Ordinary, the Rev. Mr. Davis. In the course of that Rev. Gentleman's discourse, to whose observations he meant not to offer the slightest objection, and upon the fulfilment of his duty he could make no remark which was not commendatory, Mr. Davis had stated that, since the crime for which the convict was about to suffer, another crime had been perpetrated, for which another young man stood before them, committed upon the oaths of several individuals. Nov, he was far from assuming that the Rev. Gentleman had intended to exceed his official duty. He was far from saying that he had any sympathy with the detestable crimes with which these unfortunate individuals were charged, but he must say that the implication con veyed in the observations of the Rev. Ordinary of New gate were calculated to be of great prejudice to the pri soner, who, by the law of England, at any rate, was presumed to be innocent. He had no objection to public punishments. Such punishments might be necessary for the general welfare, but he did object greatly to those exhibitions which the report of the newspaper said were more like theatrical spectacles than solemn ceremonies of the judicature. For these reasons he should, therefore, feel it his duty to bring the matter formally before the House. Lord BROUGHAM would beg to thank his Noble Friend for having brought this matter before their Lord ships. He thought there was nothing more detestable than that the infliction of justice should be anticipated by a shameful and prurient inquiry into the conduct and the feelings of the individuals who were placed in that dreadful position to which his Noble Friend had alluded. He quite agreed in the principle that the trial should be as public as it was possible it could be. He quite agreed that the sentence should be carried into effect, if it were possible, before the eyes of the whole world ; but it formed no part of the sentence—it constituted no part of the punishment, that the dark cells of the prison thouli be invaded, and the privacy of the prisoner should be intruded t.pon during those solemn hours which elapsed between his sentence and his execution. There was no necessity for this violation of feelings ; it was necessary neither for public justice nor private satisfac tion. It was requisite to no end, and was in no way called for by the import of the sentence. And what made it worse was, that where it was meant for a pu nishment it operated as a reward upon that class of cul prits to which this unhappy man appeared to have be longed ; inasmuch as it gratified the morbid thirst for notoriety, which appeared to: have almost amounted to madness, in the case of the unhappy man who suffered that morning. As a member of the Corporation of the City of London, he would take the liberty of giving a warning tb that Corporation of the risk they run of en dangering their charter by allowing persons to be ad mitted to these condemned cells. Lord STANLEY said there could be but one opinion with regard to the extreme impropriety and indecency of the proceeding which the Noble Lord had alluded to. On the part of the Government there could be no objec tion to the motion of the Noble Marquis . ; but he must remind their Lordships that the Noble Marquis had made his statement upon information which was not authentic. He would, therefore, suggest the propriety of his post poning the motion until the Government had had an opportunity of communicating with the City authorities. Nothing could be more indecent than this collection of persons to witness the appearance of the convict during the deliverance of the condemned sermon, and so far from its having been an act of reli gion, it appeared to have resulted in a matter of display. Two years ago, his Right Hon. Friend, the Secretary for the Home Department, felt it to be his duty, on a si milar occasion to the present, to make a representation to the authorities of the city of London. Upon that oc casion he understood his Right Hon. Friend received an assurance that such scenes would be put an end to. If the Noble Marquis would consent for the present to withdraw his notice of motion, he would undertake that his Right Hon. Friend the Secretary for the Home De partment should make a precise inquiry into the actual facts ; and their Lordships might rely upon it that the Government would exercise all the power it possessed to put an end to such scenes. The Duke of RICHMOND reminded the House that the condemned prisoners were entrusted to the sheriffs of the city, and they were the parties to blame if any party was to blame in the matter. He would suggest that an Act of Parliament should be brought in, pro. hibiting the attendance at the chapel in Newgate of any other persons but the prisoners and officers connected with the gaol. Lord DENMAN said it was a question of the greatest importance, and remarked that when a condemned pri sonerattended the chapel at Newgate, to receive the last admonition to be given him in this world, the attendance should be as private as possible, and particularly when a person charged with the crime of murder, and who had yet to undergo his trial, was amongst the congrega tion. He could not altogether justify the expressions of the chaplain. They all knew what effect such expres sions had on the mind, and frequently it made the party to whom they were addressed give vent to feelings which might induce a stranger to infer guilt, although the party might be perfectly innocent. Now, for in stance, a juryman might have been present when the sermon was delivered, and might ho not carry the im• pressions which the scene and behaviour of the prisoner had produced with him into Court ?—(Hear, hear.) Lord CAMPBELL expressed his entire concurrence with what had fallen from his Noble and Learned Friend. But in his opinion such scenes as those were a violation of the law ; and if the parties who exhibited those criminals were indicted, they might be punished for so doing. In the play of Hamlet the scene of a murder was introduced, for the purpose of ascertaining the guilt of the King, and it appeared to him that those exhibitions w ere got up for a similar purpose. Lord REDESDALE informed their Lordships that what took place in the morning took place in the evening. The Noble Lord adverted to an account which had appeared in an evening paper, in which it was stated that the reporters were admitted to the unfortunate prisoner, who was told of their presence in something like the following terms:—" Here are the reporters present, if yon have anything to say to them." The prisoner replied, " I do not feel collected enough to say anything. If I had known they were coming, perhaps I should have been enabled to say something. That was— if he had been properly warned that these g entlemen had intended to have paid him a visit, no doubt he would have been prepared for another scene.—(Hear, hear.) The Marquis of CLANRICARDE then consented to withdraw his motion, and the subject dropped. RAILWAYS AND THE BOARD OF TRADE. The Marquis of CLANRICARDEmoved fora return, showing the number of Irish railways the Board of Trade had sanctioned, and showing whether the lines favour ably repored were the best that could be marked out, or whether they were only the most favourable of those that had been submitted to the Board of Trade. The Noble Marquis took occasion to ask whether he was correctly informed, that the Dublin and Cashel Railway Company had violated an agreement which they had entered into with the Irish Commissioners of Woods and Forests, relative to the Curragh of Kildare ? The Earl of DALFIOUSIE consented to the return , and said that he believed that su di an agreement as th atthe stated did exist, and that the Company had, wi t hi last few days, undertaken not to disturb or enter upon the Curragh of Kildare. The motion was agreed to, several Bills were advanced It stage, and their Lordships adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, April 28. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. NEW MEMBER. Colonel AUSTIN, who was introduced by Sir E. Filmer, and another Hon. Member, took the oaths and his seat for the western division of Kent. On the motion of Mr. BARRY BALDWIN, the Totnes Markets and Waterworks Bill was read a second time. On the motion of the same HoN. MEMBER, the Lords' Amendments to the Sparrow's Herne Road Bill were agreed to. The North Wales Railway Bill was read a second time. Lord PALMERSTON presented a petition from Sligo in favour of the Dublin and Mullingar Railway Bill. On the motion of Mr. TATTON EGERTON, the Runcorn and Preston Brouk Railway Bill was read a se cond time. Mr. GODSON presented two petitions frt.m Kidder minster against the proposed grant to Maynooth. Sir T. HEPBURN presented several petitions to the same effect. _ _ Colonel VERNER presented three petitions from the county of Down against the grant to 11laynooth, and complaining that the petitioners had no Protestant re presentative in that Muse. On the motion of Mr. WAKLEY, the Clerkenwell Improvements Bill was read a third time and passed. Mr. AINSWORTH brought in the London, Bir mingham, and Sheffield Railway Bill, which was read a first time. The London and Norwich Railway Bill was also brought in and read a first time. MAYNOOTH. Mr. W. PATTEN presented petitions from places in Lancashire against the grant to Maynooth. Mr. A. CHAPMAN presented petitions to the same effect. Sit E. FIUME pres‘nted twelve petitions to the same effect. . . Mr. CHRISTOPHER presented several petitions against the Maynooth grant. Lord C. MANNERS presented three petitions from places in Lancashire against the grant to Maynooth, and also a petition from Walton, in the same county, praying for the repeal of the malt tax. Colonel ROLLESTON presented petitions from Norfolk against the grant to Maynooth. RAILWAY DEPARTMENT OF THE BOARD OF TRADE. Sir G. CLERK stated that the documents which had been laid before the Rai%ay Committee of the Board ol Trade were now deposited in the clerks' office of the House. Ile thought that the best way by which they could he rendered acceptable to all the parties interested would be by referring the several documents to the R►ailw•ay Committee upon the different Bills to which the docu ments related. He should, therefore, move that the documents be now so referred. Mr. HASTIE presented seven petitions against the grant to Maynooth. Colonel ACTON presented several petitions to the same effect, from Wicklow. Several petitions were presented against the proposed Maynooth grant. Lord, BERNARD presented several petitions from places in Cork against the increased grant to Maynooth. Sir J. HAN MER presented a petition from Beverley in Yorkshire against the grant. Mr. S. GRAWFORD presented petitions from various places in England to the same effect. Mr. HINDLEY presented 30 petitiors against the Maynooth grant from the following places :—The inha bitants of Damerham and Martin, 'Wilts; Chatteris, Cambridgeshire ; Shaffington, Bucks ; Spettisbary, Dorset ; Sturminster Marshall, Dorset ; Heul lan, Denbigh ; Palharn and Waxham, Nor folk ; Protestant Dissenters, Node Chapel, Isle of Wight ; Foulmire, Cambridgeshire ; Park-street Chapel, Cotteris, Isle of Ely; Blackwood, Monmouth shire ; Trefyam, Pembrokeshire ; Canzard, Cornwall ; Newton Chapel, Staidburn, Yorkshire ; Ministers meet ing at Alton, Hants ; Oatwood, Surrey ; Calvinistic Methodists, Northampton Chapel, Cleikenwell ; Bap tists, Chatteris, Cambridgeshire ; Uckfield, Sussex ; Aberdare, Glamorganshire ; Wesleyan Methodist Association, Stockton-on-Tees • Norley Tabernacle, South Lincolnshire; Appleby, Westmoreland ; Lynn, Norfolk; Besde, Cornwall • Holmes Chapel Cheshire ; United Association, Avon-bridge, Stirlingshire. Sir R. INGLIS presented a petition from a parish in the county of Ayr against the Government measure with respect to Maynooth. It stated that endowing the Roman Catholic priesthood would be to support idols tors, and to render them partakers in the sin of idolatry. —(Laughter.) He also presented petitions from several parishes in the counties of Suffolk, Perth, Down, ard Stafford, to the same effect. WINIVICK RECTORY BILL. Sir R. INGLIS, on the report on this Bill being pre sented, took occasion to eulogise the conduct of the Rector of Winwick, who, he stated, endowed seven parishes out of his rectorial income.---The report was received. COLONIAL BISHOPS. Mr. COLLETT put a question relative to the pay ment of Colonial Bishops, which was not audible. Mr. HOPE, in reply, said it was true Bishops had been appointed at Colombo and at New Brunswick, but neeither were paid for by the people of this country. Theßishop of Colombo was paid for by the colony itself, the Bishop of New Brunswick by a fund raised in this country for the endowment of colonial bishops. Captain BERKELEY nished to know whether it was true that the Commander-in-Chief had ordered the officers of the two regiments of Life Guards, to provide for the payment of bands as in the line, and if so to lay the ccpy of such orders on the table of that House. Mr. SIDNEY . HERBERT said it was quite true that such an order had been issued. He would ascertain whether it could be laid on the table of the House, but at present did not think it was a matter in which Parlia ment should interfere.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. WAKLEY asked Sir James Graham if he would consent to a motion for a return of a copy of the answer addressed to the Committee of the National Association of General Practitioners by the Council of the Royal Colle g e of Surgeons. Sir J. GRAHAM said that in a day or two he would lay on the table of the House the correspondence to which the Hon. Member referred. THE BRAZILS. Sir R. PEEL said, in answer to a question from Mr. Grimsditch, that the information which her Majesty':, Government had received upon the subject had been but very recently received, and had been handed to the Queen's Advocate to report upon, and when that report should be received, he would take care that the Hon. Member should be made ac quainted with the nature of it. Mr. MILNER GIBSON said he had had many corn. munications upon the subject just referred to by the Right Hon. Baronet, in consequence of which he had placed a motion upon the paper to the effect that he would move for copies of the correspondenee that had Passed between the authorities at Rio de Janeiro and the Government of this country on this question; but if there was any objection to the production of them, he would not press his motion. However, this he would say, that great alarm had been felt as to the position of their commercial relations with Brazil ; and it was felt that the great difficulty of their recent relations had been owing to the unfortunate policy of this country towards Brazil upon the Brazilian sugar question— (Hear, hear)—and, in fact, until the Government should retrace their steps on that question, nothing else that they could do would have the effect of re-assuring the British subjects in that colony that they were replaced in the full enjoyment of those privileges which they had a right to enjoy.— (Hear, hear.) However, as he had stated, he would not press for the correspondence, if there was any objection 1 to it. Sir R. PEEL said ho had before him a document is sued by the Brazilian Government, in which it was stated that British subjects in that country should be restored to the fullest enjoyment of all their privi leges. He could not see the expedieney of producing the correspondence alluded to by the lion. Member. Mr. HUME said he thought those evils had resulted from the Government of this country interfering in the internal regulations of other countries.—(llear, hear.) He felt satisfied that the Government would act wisely by rescinding its acts in reference to Brazil, and in leaving every country to carry on its institutions as it deemed fit. He was sure that if any other country attempted to dictate to this what its institutions ought to be, he was sure that this country would reject such interference immediately.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. BRIGHT said he had a letter in his band which he had received that moment, an extract from which he would read to the House. This letter was directed to a firm in the City, and it stated that a gen tleman, named Harvey, who died on the I I th of February, left a will, under which a person named Castell was appointed to act as executor. At the time of this gentleman's death he was loading a vessel, and had put into it about 1,5001. worth of goods, for the pur pose of liquidating a debt ; but a judge claimed to have the property, which was actually sold, and the pro ceeds placed as a deposit in his court. A great inconve nience and loss was occasioned by the power now assumed by the Brazilian authorities, and in this instance the property which was valued at 1,5001. had. been n the sold by the Judge for 900/. He agreed in observations which had fallen from the Honourable Gentleman the Member for Montrose, but he would submit that this was an evil which was occasioned by that combination of monopolists under whom the Right Hon. Baronet had to some extent sub mitted his Government. This was characterised as an unfriendly act of the Brazilian Government ; but how could it be expected that that Government should entertain any friendly feelings towards them, while, under a pretence which they all believ e d etoonbny vas efrofia.ht•preoveernittiecdal from characterd—in(g fairly with the liear,hear)— hear)—this Brazils—(Hear, hear)—and in the district from which he came there was the greatest possible dread that their trade with the Brazi ls, which amounted e to nda a nge m re i d llio fr n om an t d he a cou h r a se which fas this would jeopardisedh.ts country ahnlat(l ethou fi g is ht at t t l e l n e ti ß on ig t l o tt th ll e o B t d a o k e n. H well to turn deavour to make some w i se and salutary z r egula t i o ns d w e i n t h regard to it.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. BROTHERTON said he had received several representati ons f rom t h e p l ace wh i ch he represente d , on the subject of the oppressions to which the merchants were subjected to in Brazil, and great alarm and ap prehension was entertained as to the security of their property and interest in Brazil.—(Hear, hear.) He was glad that her Majesty's Government had paid attention to the subject, and he trusted that something would be done to remedy the evil.—(Hear, hear.) Sir R. INGLIS trusted that her Majesty's Ministers would not follow the advice of the Hon. Member for Montrose. There was not a sacrifice that the people of this country were not prepared to make—there was no in crease in the price of sugar, or any other article, that they were not prepared to bear—if there were a Tea sonable certainty of stopping such a crime as traffic in slavery. Mr. WARBURTON could not believe that the people of this country were so insensate as not to see the effect of the returns which had been made to that House with respect to the slave trade. From those returns it appeared that the number of slaves which the British cruisers had arrested in their progress from Africa to the Spanish colonies or the Brazils did not amount to more than three per cent. of the whole number carried from Africa to the opposite coasts of the Atlantic. When the British publ►c looked at those reports, they could not but sec that the measures which had been taken by the Govern ment for the suppression of the slave trade were totally inefficient. Lord J. RUSSELL said that in the former treaty entered into by the present Government with Portugal, a treaty of trade and navigation had been entered into, giving protection to the lives and property of British subjects. He wished to know if, in the treaty with Brazil, the Government had acted in a similar way? Sir R. PEEL said that attempts had been made to complete the treaty in a similar way, and he had every reason to believe that by that time the signatures of the plenipotentiaries had been affixed to the treaties. Mr. LABOUCHERE said that that was not an answer to the question of his Noble Friend. The question was, whether the separate treaty would be signed before the other had expired on the 18th of No vember. Sir R PEEL did not anticipate any difficulties in the way of signing the treaties. Jr.l SIIEIL thought such a desultory conversation tended to no certain purpose. He was of opinion, the re fore,. that a resolution should be moved expressive of the opinion of the House will regard to the impolitic course pursued by the Government in its negotiations with Brazil ; and if in other Ilon. Member would propose such, he (Mr. Sheil) should take an early opportunity or doing so. The conversation then dropped. MAYNOOTH. Mr. SIIARMAN CRAWFORD said that he was afraid that he could not, consistently with the orders of the House, bring forward the motion he had given notice of with regard to Maynooth till the report of the Com mittee of the whole house were brought up upon the Bill. He would, therefore, take another opportunity of bringing it forward. Mr. HUME pre.lented several petitions against the grant to Maynooth. Lord CASTLEREAGII presented several petitions against the grant, and also several in favour of it from parishes in the county of Down. Numerous petitions against the grant were presented by Mr. G. Duncan, Mr. 11indky, Mr. Ewart, Lord San don, Sir A. Brooke, and Mr. C. Berkeley. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented several petitions against the grant, and one of which was signed by 1,800 persons, who expressed their surprise that the public voice was not attended to in the House.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) They prayed the house to reject the grant, and to consider the propriety of discontinuing the connexion between Church and State.—(Hear.) Mr. M. GIBSON presented a petition from the mayor, aldermen, common-council, and seventeen magistrates of Manchester in favour of the grant, and expressing the opinion of the petitioners that the welfare of the whole empire was dependent upon the conciliation of the Irish people.—(Hear.) 'the Hort. MEMBER presented also five petitions from religious congregations in Manchester against the grant. Mr. FERRAND presented three petitions from places in the county of Tyrone against the grant. The peti tioners had requested him to present their petitions, because they had no confidence in their own repre sentatives. Sir 11. PEEL had been requested to present a petition very numerously, and he believed very respectably signed, from merchants, bankers, and traders of Liver pool, in favour of the grant to Maynooth College. The RIGIIT HON. BARONET also presented potitions in favour of the grant, from Presbyterians in the county of Antrim. Lord INGESTRE presented a petition against the grant to Maynooth ; and petitions to the same effect were presented from several parishes in Norfolk. MAYNOOTII COLLEGE BILL. On the report on the Maynooth Endowment Bill being presented by Mr. Greene, Mr. LAW said that he rose to offer to the considera tion of the House his motion to negative, if possible, the proposition of her Majesty's Government, that ail the charges, expenses, and burthens of the measure affecting the question of Maynooth College, be defrayed from the Consolidated Fund, and that the permanent State endowment of that Roman Catholic Col lege be drawn from the taxes of the people of this country. lie repudiated both these propositions, and threw himself on the indulgence of the house in stating such reasons as he might be enabled to advance why the consideration of these resolutions should be indefinitely postponed. When he locked at the magnitude of those interests which had been af fected, he felt that all hope and expectation of en adequate discharge of public duty on this question should fail. In proportion as the principles involved in the measure were of vital importance—in proportion to the universal interest which the people of England and Scotland took in it, directing all their energies to this matter under the consideration of the House, he threw himself on the kindness and indulgence of the House to allow him, in as Concise a form as possible, to state the grounds of his opposition, and the reasons for which he was now, and for ever would be, opposed to the measure. It was desirable that the principles of the Bill should he kept in view, and these, he apprehended, were twofold. First, that it was desirable to make a permanent endowment in favour of the , Roman Catholic priesthood ; and, secondly, that the empire should be taxed in order to pay a permanent charge for such education. The latter was the main feature of the pleasure—the permanent State end owm, nt of an establishment for the forming of the Roman Catholic priesthood. lle (Mr. Law) was of opinion that the State should enter into no such alliance, and deprecated the principle of taxing the people of this country for any such purpose. This measure was introduced by the Right Hon. Baronet at the head oilier Majesty's Go vernment to that House, and introduced, too, under circumstances that could nut he approved by those who sent the supporters of it here, who sat at this side of the House ; but this measure was supported and carried through the first reading owing to the aid whieh, the Right Hon. Baronet had received from those who were usually his political opponents. In like manner was the Bill presented to the House a second time, and a second time was it suscessful through the aid of political opponents ; and it was most important to observe that a great portion of those who supported the Bill did so for the purpose of extinguishing the opposition to the Bill. Then, with respect to the Bill itself, the House was left in the dark as to how many colleges there were to be established, or whe- • ther they were to be for academical education. The Right Honourable Baronet had, up to this moment, maintained the most profound silence. He had not given any information as to the nature or extent of his plans, and would not do so until he had succeeded in procuring the ap probation of that Home that the money was to be paid out of the Consolidated Fund. The House knew not whether the colleges were to be for religious education in separate col leges, or whether there were to be scholarships or fellowships. In fact, they were asked to take a step that would be a leap in the dark. History, in recording the transactions of that House would have to record that the Right Hon. Baronet threw himself for support on those who usually opposed him.—( Hear.) And even if he gained a triumph, if triumph it could be called, it was gained by following and not by leading the Noble Lord opposite into one of the lobbies of the House. One hundred and eighty Gen tlemen on the other side of the House voted for intposing this tax on the people of England for the permanent endowment of themhe y on e e ee stheeßtied that oeemanCa principle thol ic College of u ld M b it here afterw to retrace their steps. He did not object to the amount o a r impossible sib a l n e d tor ift of the money proposed to be given to Maynooth, but he ob jected to the principle of paying one sixpence from the taxes of this country for the endowment 4,f that College.—( Hear, hear.) He was influenced by no unkindly feelings towards his Roman Catholic fellow -;subjects, hut in principle he s o pposed to the _endowment of the College of Maynooth. k v iik enlae said that he was influenced by no unkindly feeling he trusted that he might fairly have credit for that declaration. He respected, asmuch as any man, his fellow.subjects opposed to him in religion—he had the most perfect and the most unbounded respect for his Roman Catholic fellow-subjects, liberal mind to feel otherwise etas remembered forblered any tht for conscience' sake they had for s"fool:elinotoigt was " impossible a period of time suffered deprivation of the highest offices of the State. But he took a broad distinction be tween commiserating our Roman Catholic fellow-subjects, and the principle of endowing the Catholic Church. It was to retain that broad distinction that he ventured to trouble the House with his observations on this occasion. Why did not the Right Hon. Baronet act upon the principle which he had recognised in the Charitable Bequests Act of last year ? By the 15th clause of that Act, power was given to the Roman Catholic Church to benefit by bequests for the purpup l i of building parsonage houses, and endowing Roman Catholic places of worship. Ins tead of that, the Ri g ht Hon. Baronet no w proposed to establ ish an irrevocable grant to si te C o llege of Maynooth. This involved a principle mis c hi evous tolaynthooothlasht had been . s u p l p f 0 , r severalte su ppo r te d b y th yearse ago, v ol untary contributions the C o ll ege is C t of the Roman Catholics themselves, it would have been now a flourishing establishment, and there would have been no necea sity for such a Bill as the present. The Roman Catholics of Ireland were distinguished for their liberality and their charity. They were moreover in the possession of the most abundant means. Means which enabled them not only to provide for the sustenance of the Roman Catholic clergy of Ireland, but also to send Roman Catholic clergymen educated in Ireland as missionaries to other countries to propagate their doctrines there, instead of retaining them in Ireland to assist in the edu cation of the Catholic people in that country. He felt it to he his duty to oppose this attempt to burden the Consolidated Fund with their maintenance for the education of the Roman Catholic clergy of the College of Maynooth. If the grant were withdrawn altogether, he believed that the Roman Catholics of Ireland would take the maintenance of the College into their own hands, and would, by maintaining it, show the extent of their zeal and of their charity. It might be said that this sub scription had been continued for so many years that it had created expectations of its continuance in the minds of the authorities of that College, which would be disappointed if the fund from which they had for so many years derived assistance, were suddenly done away with. It would not become him tea suggest to the Right Hon. Baronet the mode in which he rralglit meet this difficulty, but he (Mr. Law) thought that the Mi nister who had not scrupled to draw from the Consolidated Fund—from the taxes paid by the people of Great Britain —tat permanent allowance for the endowment of the College of May nooth, need not have hesitated at severing the c onnex i on between the Protestant Constitution and the Ro.. man Catholic Church of Ireland. He might have brought forward some such proposition as ,lie following : it appeared to him (Mr. Law) that the Right lion. Baronet might have said, with much better grace. " We have passed the Catholic Emancipation Bill—we have relieved from e:oi disabilities our Roman Catholic fellow-subjects—we have ad• mitted them to equal rights and privileges with ourselves, and, that the period had now arrived when Rtate expediency de manded that concessions should be made al-e in this particu lar."e He should have added, tl.at it appeared to h i i ie m ;T o Li t t i whole right that, while conceding make, at the same time, the E s tablishment possibles and 'the Roman the subject of the Protestantb ro ad th t is mesure dist 'mot ion on d u he must changing g his ;tows , d t e o p a a n li u n r . en dWifro t in es Si p i P sC d ef lin drie e ir y ei s rngP°ltiht i°74 t engage that on a Church question, which regarded Pro*. at less vpCireainwtlei.oiplaileensdltiihunoreseh. principles rt ti.