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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF PEERS. SATURDAY, DICEMBEIi 10. . . . . nip a Lordships met for a short time . this day, 1 rransaCied sonic routine business, and forwarded the Bills opon the Table. „ In the course Of the latter proceedings, the Exche. titter Bills Bill, the Plice and 'Pension Duty, Irish Sugar Drawback, Malt 'Tax, India Bonds Duty, and the Annual Indemnity Bill, were severally read d iicond time. The Irish Habeas Corpus Suspension and. Martial Law Bills lie over 'for a seconttreading on Mon. day ; as does the Bank Restriction .Bill lot a third reading, Hcianouss, accompanied ley - .several Mem. bens, presented the following Bills from the Corn. mOns, the Irish Alts Distillation, the Curates' Re. lief . Bill, the Irish Provision Import: Regulation, the British Sugar Dimity l)rawback, the Small Notes, and the,,fiortugalWinis Bonding Bill. These Bills were severally read . a first time, after which the House adjourned till IVlonday. ~_: ~. lid SE OF COMMONS. sArut94o.v i pgc.,;9. "Mr. Secretary Yoarr brought up an' Abstraft of the Return of the Volunteer and Yeomanry Cored 4ncepted by His'Miljesty, distin v ishing each Corps eo- • so . tat 'as the same at pres-enecan` 0 matte up. Mr. Coßny.,pyesented a PetitiggrT thM C 6 f1 36-; rate Body_ for-Promoting Protestant Schools, 4c. in beland.--OrilfrOd to b ! :..)aiti on the Table. moved';` He movor, Aeounts of the,-Board .of,• First Fruits, &c. in Ireland, to be laid before the H ouse . - ...Ordered. Be presented several other Petitions that are an. "wally laid before the House, on behallof the Com• . missioners of Charitable,Donatitrs, of the ! Orphan House,aec,--eOrderelloo be laid upon the Table. He moved, That 'there he laid before the House in Estimate of the Expence of Supporting the Cha. lity Schools of Ireland, &c.—Ordered, TheY were brought. 4 immediately, and ordered to be laid orithe 'fable. Mr. COstav moved, That they be referred to a Committee of Supply on:Monday. The Spersxt's observed, it was not-usual , to take into consideration any Documents on the day next following that'on which' they were laid before the House ; there was, however, no irregellarity in : the matter, because there was no order to the contrary. The House might do as it pleased in it. lie CHANCEALUR of the EICIIEQUtit recant. mended the Motion, which was immediately after. wards put and carried; Mr. Secrehief•YOßKE rose in pursuance of a • Notice which he gave last night, for the purpose of moving for Leave ..to bring in a Mil to explain and ton: l two Aas lespetc.ting the Volunteer Corps, as it lweried;frotet ‘v;ltaf. was said yesterday in the 1 touse, that in.:eotoe, quarter: considerable doubt. wearer corertaintl.ns: to 11%e precise meaning of th e otdr: rf thtse•Mis and as many persons were ew,c , :rn( 3 in this matter, it. was proper it shou!d be q'tite Coar what the Lew is; aid some. persons might rot, perietps, li3d much opportunity of toneiidering . .whrie,it was , they should 4o older. these ''Acts: elb,i , tis• Which •appeared err biro. to be .tieeeesery ,at preeeet, wre eliose el regulatiog arid xpisittiog the nu. ore of- the .Exemp_ sw; which would be to Volniteer. It it -should be "16116 d ti;leiss.'liy - r•Ci - :-Tii.i':arly'otVflKiiiiCtilaes' in this FySiCat. so, as tu'give any further vigour to any part of it, lie tholfght the 1., r cr wu,y woula be to rd3ce up the I'l4h:it'd - after' the - Recess, after Gentlemen ha d bad t,ivottunitits of conversivz with their difrerent Cerps. He therefore wished that' the present Bill -should he limited ter MO objeCti;.:-first, to citable tlie,Commandantt,. of each Corps who, fium ranee ttf the Law, have 11(4 rll44.k,proper fteturos. on the days appointed for that purpose, to give in their Re urns subsequent to the per4siogeif 'the An, and -that the Certificates so returned by the Conunan., • Chola shall be effMttai; -and 'this provision should extend as well to the 42(.1 as to the 4341 of the pre., tent King, upon the.subjeft, of the Voionteet Corps. As to the doubts which :night be entertained, woe. , cher Certificate,: for, Exemption could „be given to those who hart been !reined without arms ; the Commandants should make a special Return. At the suttee time, it was necessary to take care there, • should be no improper relaxation of duty in any of these Corp. Heeiliould therefore propose, that al though these special and supplemeotery Returns should be made in these cases under the Bill ice was about to propose, lie should not think of giv jog Exemption to any person ti he free from his attend ance from and after the menth of May next. The same exercise and training should he required after. wards as before these Celli/I:ores shall have been granted, in order to exempt the Volunteers from the Militia and the Army of Reserve, At present the Exteninitin from the Army of Reserve: was acquired .by a Volunteer, by five days attendance and train. ing ; that period Was WO OW; ;: he proposed that there should be twenty.eight days in the year; the till might be discussed in the Committee as to the number of days, Whets the Blanks came to be filled up. Ile therefore moved, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to explain and amend two Ads of the +zd and 43d of leis preterit Majesty, ,for Regu. luting Volunteer Corps, Zee. The Motion being put, Mr. CUR N said, he should assent to a Mea sure'that had the tendency to render the services of the Volunteer Corps more effethial,that they are at present, and from the zeal which they had oe i e formly shewn, he had no doubt that every. Cur v y ,withed,it, and that they would be glad of an op, portunity of improving theta under these rege. Jationsl this he teas warranted in saying from the 'experience he had of. several Volunteer Corps, for they wished to take every advantage tor improve. ment which they could. - They who had been used to their leader, would go with him with pleasure,. but they might not like a stranger to he brought on a sudden to command them ; this was applicable to the ideaof giving them a ne:v Field Officer from' the Line. But there we re oilier riots which he thought inure important to the improvement of military Multi/int, if they were tetliaVe experiena4 Serjeant Majors, and also' that they;hould • lowed Adjutants: In general ii was well known: to military men that a good Adjutant was most valuable to a Corps, next to him was the value of a good Serjeanr Major to instrud men in some of the most useful .parts of military discipline: -These should be properly paid ;• perhaps k would be .well also its. have a good Corporal in pay, and perhaps TOO "'that fineS should lie imposed by law for (Hot. ;derby behaviOur in 1114 ranks, ''pairieularly for in toxication.' These points well'attended to, %vivid . greatly: contribute to, the improvement of Volun tcera in their military exercise. We had now a great body of them, and they were in a very re. speltable . state of discipline, but he thought that this would do a great deal of good, and that ,the 'Volunteers would be happy to- 'see it carried into. effeet-=it'would do a great deal of good—it would introduce a proper military spirit into the'ranks of :Volunteer'--it would improve the taite and inch. .nation of the whole. Country to much of the man. net and.habits of a military life, which it was essen. tial, for us to cultivate in the present state of this world. We must, to a given extent, now- be a military nation, in order to preserve what we' have, because all other Nations chuse to be so. We must not' hope tcicontinue in possession of what we have : without being what "other Nations are, a military People, othetwise whenever we were attacked or insulted, we should not know how to defend our. 1 serves - and - vindicate our honour. There was another point to which he wished to call the attention of the. House—it was a subjcet which did not apply to the case of Volunteers in the metropolis, but was severely felt by those in the Country; when they came . frpm a distance into a village, or into an open place for exercise, they were under the necessity of going into a public.house, which Must be attended I with an expence, which in addition to their loss of time, was a serious thing to many of them ; he thought that SQUIC allowanOe should be made to them on that account. All this would not amount to more ' than ss. per man alear tmre than it did at present. He thought also that we should not be content with but a few days attendance for improvement in military exercise. The meetings ought to be once a week at least, to become , perfect in military discipline, Thus attending to our true interest, as lie had no doubt we should do, he was indeed assutedrbf it, we should have in the Volunteers of this. ctptantry a military, a truly military force, capable of undertaking and perftirining every thing that was necessary for the dele,nce of the Co entry ,rdtorther, so that the Re. gular 'Arity might be spared for any Expedition. These were very 6crious considerations, by no means to be.'negleded, for in the contest in which we are pow engaged, we must be either viCtoriouB, or be 1 . destroyed. JUL EY ADDINGTON race to express the great satisfaCtion he felt at hearing his Right Hon. ,friend. give the notice he did in the course of his Spee,ch, on the subjektrfthe Provisions of the which,. in the fiat iostan , ce, was properly proposed to be for a time to bedimited. He reed in obi. ninn also with the Hon, Gentleman w ho spoke last, in utmost every partieulau fir had stated. As to the proposition thrown out by the Right Hun. Gentleman (Mr. Pm) last night, with regard to the appointmeet of a l?teld Officer, there were . many oljeetions to it; nut to qay any thing of the (taco'. ty all all ;hese effe:cs, there were many others. By His iViire.ty's ',emission an Adjutant was al. lowed to every Regiment, to whom it was a neces. sary qualification that he should have held a Commission at least five years in 'His Majesty's Army. Whether it was or not desirable to exad, he had 'almost said, the rigoorous condition that a Corps o; Volunteers should attend eightrfive days in the year, he had very considerable doubts. The Corps he had t4e honour to cemmand, were com. posed of persons to whom such an attendance would he very harthensome, and to whuin it would be dif. ficult to comply' if commatqed to attend. One wind on what was said by the Hon. Gentleman who had just spoken, with respekt_to the allowing of Serjeant Majors—a Serjeant Major was allowed, he understood, to every Corps not exceeding a given number of men, but where there was a Corps with an Adjuiant, a Serjearit Major was refused, unless when die Corps was upwards of a moo. He thought there were not a great many Corps in the kingdom to whom this applied, because there were not many Corps above zOOO men. Mr. Secretary YORKE observed, that His, Ma. jesty had power to make sertain rules and regula. tiees fur the Government of the Volunteer , Corps, and if they were not observed, the consequence wss, that the compulsory clause in the Ad for calling out the Mass might be enforced, for the compulsory pruvisions of that At were only sus. Fended while the Volunteer Corps were leep,t up. With respeft to the time required for the Volun. teers to meet, that would, be mncter fin considers. tion of the House when the Bill came to the CoM. witted. He should not have proposed' that the Vu. -liniment should exercise a greater number of days than were required by law, but the House would determine whether that or a greater number oldays should be adopted. As to the question of economy, the truth was, that great difficulty was brought un Government in conserpienee of great expence in' many of these subjeds, and therefore it wax better Co keep every measure in the first instance, at least as low as possible. He had great doubt' whether it would be possible to adopt that which was thrown out by a Right, Hon, Gentleman (Mr. PITT) last night, as tt general system, for it would be difficult to procure the 'number of Officers. The Corps of Volueteers had been already as much instron e d as peritaps was possible within the time, i n the next place, they have not now the same to do as they have already gone. through With regard to the appointment .4 of Atijutantsi—it was' a snbjed on which mechittight be said,lnit it certainly required a great deal of consideration.: Supposing there were to be appointed only 1500 Adjutants at tool, each, that would be 150,0001. a year. Now he-did not see why they should have this permanent pay un l ess they were on co nstan t duty. Therefore, if the exercise was only for a Certain number of days io the years, the' Adjutaot should not hays per maeent pay, be,udes this, he was afraid that the appo i nt. meta to such offices in the country %V: " not al . A a 3, 9 condueled on the pu res t 'liar:4lo 4 but he thouithi ._ / • if the appointments were as they should, ha, the ad.- • vantage:Of having men well qualified for such pffices would be such that the expellee would be well re. paid ; time, however, ought to. be taken to con. sider and digest these matters. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER .said, he concurred in•every thing that had beOn said by his Right_ Hon. Friend, and in very much of what had lifen said by. the,Hon, Gentleman oppo. site to him, i; The great. leading objed with him was, that their should be in all the Volunteer Corps a willing mind and : cordial disposition among them. selves, and with them and their Officers—He was aware of the value of good discipline and expert. ness of exercise ; but it was to the temper and dia_ position of the Corps towards their Officers, so that they might go on harmoniously together, that Par. !lament ought to direft its chief attention.' It was to be recommended to them all to be Brigaded, and 'to perform their Exercises whenever they could do so in Battalion as often as possible. On this point he thought there should be a general concurrence, for this contributed greatly to the perfcdion of dis. cipline and' efficiency of adion. He ivas.perfedly persuaded 'there was much wisdom in the suggestion thrown out last night by a Right Hon. Gentleman, (Mr. PITT) for the improveMent of discipline ; but time should be taken to consider matters of this nature, and Officers should be consulted ; but care should be taken that no impression Lhould be made t to create any uneasiness in any part of this great body of force, and he must again take the oppur. tunity to say . it was most, important to take care not to wound the feelings of these Corps, or to diminish the attachment of the different members towards their Officers, or the influence of the Officers over the Men. Every thing should be done that might not interfere with this objet, and nothing should be indulged to .the members of the Corps that was not consistent with the authority of the Officers, and theresped which was due to them. He was persuaded that much advantage might be de. ' rived by the int rodudion of Adjutants and Serjeant Majors, for much improvement in discipline would be the result of it. At the same time the whole system, required time, for it embraced a variety of considerations, so that he hoped` the adoption of it should not be pressed at present, and he said this the more readily, - lest there should be now ingrafted on theßill, any thing 'that might requirealteration. fleconfessed he was , aware it must be the general wish that every thing should be done which might improve the discipline of all the Volunteers, but then it must be done on the principle he had men. tioned, of preserving the harmony which at e resent • subsists between the Officers and meo, on which the whole system depends. The question was then put, and leave was given to bring in the Bib, which was brought in imme. diately, and' read a first time. On the question for the second ItAing a few words passed between Sir W. MILNER, the ATTORNEY GENERAL and Mr. GILES, on the subject of the exemptions pro. vided by the last Ad of Parliament, after which the Bill was ordered to be read R second time on Monday next.—Adjourned.. MAILS, DU*. *aalrl.. Hamburgh PRICE OF STOCKS, I'll& DA If AT TWZGYK O'CLOCK. Consols ( Red. Ann. 54 I Omnium, - THE SUN. 801811 11.111111101111“ IF•LAIUM •V$:&! I LONDON, DECEMBICR 12, 1803. BY the Alexander Extra East.lndiaman, from Batlky, arrived at Plymouth on Friday evening, we have the important intelligence, that Admiral RAINIER, having received by an overland Express, in the short space ofBa days, a Copy of His Ma. jesty'a Message of the lith of March, announcing the probability of a rupture with France, and being cruizing in the Indian Seas, fell in,, on the 29th of July, with the French Squadron under Rear.Adrni. rid LINOI6, consisting of one Ship of 74 guns, tour Frigates, and Transports having between two and three thousand Troops on board, all of which were cap►ured. This fortunate event, which, for the pre sent, completely frustrates any intentions which the ambition of BO rint , Aivrti may have entertained against our Indian Possessions, we think we may safely congratulate our Readers upon, as of un. doubted authenticity. The East Indiameri which put into Cark some days ago, and sailed again from thence on Thursday last, passed Portsmouth yesterday on their way to the Downs. THE Gazette of Saturday contains Dispatches from Admiral Sir THOMAS DUCILWORTH, dated from . Port Royal, Jamaica, Sept. 39, confirming the account which we some days ago stated, of the Surrender of the French Garrisons of Nichola Mole, and Part Dauphin in St. Domingo, The French Troops were in the utmost distress, arid threw themselves on British humanity, to save them from falling into . the hands of the Blacks. Captain BaOir Obtained ihe release of General DUMONT and his Suite , wao were prisoners with the Blacks, anti were in imtninent danger of being sacrificed to the irreconcileable hatred which they bear to the French. At Port Dauphin, La Sagtsre Frigate, of za guns, was taken, as well as some Vessels of smaller force. YESTIZ RD AY Some Dutch Paters, th os e o f Reiter. Jam, Leyden. chid llafrlim. Of the rd, orA ;n_ scant, were received in Towii, atcd %I/CW.lo ol i' Paris Palers to the loth ult. inclusive. This i 4 five days later than the date of the last !saris Jour• nals received in this Country. The /1/odirear gives studied details of what Void at the Consular Levee on the 27th ult. at which Count MAIKOFY had his audience of leave. The principal intention of this seems to be, to throw discredit upon the reporti which have been so, industriourly circulated on the Continent, of the dissatisfa&ion which the Emperor ALEICANDP , had been supposed to have expressed with the pioceedings of BONAPARTI. At the meeting, alluded to, general assurances of a faithful ohsery ance of the system of friendship and good un derstanding which has for some time prevailed between Russia and France, were made 00 both aides, and . Count MARKOP2 took his' formal and friendly leave of the Chief Consul. M. Omuta, Secretary of Legation, remains at Paris as Charge d' Affair':, till a successor to Coos, MARKOFF shall arrive. Though these friendly appearances between the Courts of St. Peters• burgh and St. . Cloud may be hollow and daisy' sive, yet we were never amongst those who gave implicit credit to the reports of the eX• Peaed anive intetfrenee of Russia in the albite of the Continent. However much that event would be desirable, we cannot at present hope that it is very near at hand. In this opinion we ate eat; justified by the la test accounts from those places whoa' the report of his Preparations for War originated. A' Article from the Lower Elbe of she mph ult. steal' that the reports of Russia arming one any consider* able scale are not well founded, and treats the statement of that Country taking an Alive part iA the War as altogether improbable. The same accounts are repeated of the ,e ftsp tions for the Invasion, which arc merely Minits. amuse the People on the Continent. Th e 6rt ' s to Holland are most probably by this time 0 ,0 5 ) shut up by the ice. The French Funds on the 29th were P. 70• It is said that the Master of a ?tussi gn w h i ch sailed fr o m Ro tterdam last Toesdsi'4sg° I"'1 that there was in that port a seiz are of ad DP was aatialii Vessels, and that the Inva din g Army embarked, and expeeted to sail every tide. 'rho frost, it is stated, had not t h en set in in Hal' threc land ; but since Thorediy it h as for two or days been very severe, The Prussian t he Vesse Mwl luta sever e weather on her passage, and iter thinks the Armament he saw at Rotterdam cued not have weathered it. We do not believe tbst would It to *ea. Alt interesting though brief conversation too); Place on Saturday in the House of Commons, relatirc to Volunteer Corps. Mr. Secretary YORE, ja PITT' conformity with a p art of Mr. 3 ideas, al Prcoed on Friday, introduced Bill ex p l a natory of the lubiea of exemptions. He proposed that t he number of days of attendance sufficient to serra e xempt Volunteer from the Militi a and Army of Re T should be fixed at twenty.eight. he other pri• Posed alterations in the Volunteer system ore 10 b a taken into consideration after the Recess. MI following Declaration relative to the Elefr torate . of Hanover, has been published at 10.Yi N " burgb last month by the last Esedoral Anil'le" l ' ia , _. " "IS ROYAL MAJE.s.rv, and E LICTOR At. iliGi-i; :ts2o being informed, that on the Side Of E rdIICC, enaa" L. have been made, by a variety of ilehts;vc intioutions, 10 Ju t duce i i he t I: t t u h h t e i n t t i g h:: ll° i E v t Electorate, calvie:l,ll::ottehrrase that a t b i l l y . Si n t t t ' i t i l t e l e i i r ner vi a b i t: g a in c i: o :l i tittih:e3at: c reateP3l4.ll 1...401:gt ititeom"ruanistirnygitshecurilasrigde7tibni);siomfpmaiorende;r6qll4ulhiredc 13ittocrvaPrfic;rntibr; gne . my's demand, and in default whereof, ould be levteii pay and sulisivence of the French Trool )i W by ,themselves . by means of the most iigorotiSe6:nticdl,,, i f ' Although His MA./tsty does not entertain the o il. apprehension, that his Ministers will anywaYs e/ux'lt.trie.lc,x4.• mitt of the power entrusted to them, yet he decals." :30, the amount 9r rh o _ sary to declare, in the most solemn manlier, that Hi l6 Ar a IlfleistiaabnieNnicitici,sters, by the powers vested in thern `Y . it') te6 fieg to the Administration of his German Dominions, d 1 1, ,,, are by no means authorized, without ilisnicitt 3 esvy ' s express .iommand, fei raise nwney, and gi ve se " - . c li for it; and that His MAJ ear Y than not consider hilmo any ways bound by aas and proceedings, contrary to hi s e tti i interest and that of his dominions, which may be e atel front his Ministers by menaces and compulsion." Mails from plibii/i, of the 6rh, 7h, and lithr if' rived this morning, but are barren of iritelligence. Fritity the Ducts of CumasaLA.sP and C/4 ° ‘ RR I DOR afttved at WIMISCOG • '' I $ 0 Saturday morning HI; NlA'irsTr, and..l),P°4ltl), of Cu MBERLAND aliti CAMORIPQR, 'atqatlr:iati,l General MAN):114014.04, waikad to CuroLle,',",-,j, Lodge, and 'viewed the beautiful 1-{rnovel-th. Yesterday morning THE! It MAJW•IIO 8°- i ( 0 PRlNtsstb, with their usual Attendants, wen St. George's Chaqvel, where the heard an ex: Ipi, Sermon, by Dr: DUVALL, from the t6th Oa au , ' the 9th verse :—..••• thi fvf " Tiicrobre n 1 ' tieliiii,„ . L Y •"',Ol is Kiwi, and my glory rejoice _ ,balk ii:A at i,orc." ' , liiilailYng PRINCE“ AMELIA. took an airing 04 Ow `— head }LOA. J