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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, May 23. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat OLL the Wool sack at the usual hour. MAYNOOTH. The Earl of FITZ'' ARDINGE presented a great nurnbar of petitions against the grant to Maynooth, from .the Wesleyan Congregations of Gloucestershire and Somersetihire. He could not conscientiously give his Aipporb to this grant, if lie thought that it was only caloulated to excite anxiety and displeasure in England, without being calculated to give satisfaction to Catholic Ireland. THE CFIURCH ACTS' AMENDMENT BILL. This Bill was read a second time before the public were admit'ed to the gallery. _ _ . The LORI) CHANCELLOR said, that to his astonishment an important Church Bill had seen for warded a stage before he entered the House. He had alwa j s understood that the hour for commencement of public business was five o'clock. He had come into the House at that time; and learned that this Bill had passed its second reading, al though he had been in personal communication with a Right Reverend Prelate's secretary. This Bill interfeved with the rights of the Crown, and he was, therefore, surprised that it should have been read at so early a period of the evening. It was an in terference with the rights of the House. Lord BBOUGHANI said that the House would find means for defending its rights. _ _ _ Lord CAMPBELL said that as the hour for public business was five o'clock, any attempt to carry a Bid before that time was a contravention of the standing orders. Lord BROUGHAM—Oh ! If it be only a contraven tion of the standing orders the House could recover the point. The LORD CHANCELLOR—The House is not in that extreme state. CIVIL AND CRIMINAL LAW COMMISSION. Lord BROUGHAM said that he understood that a report had been made by the Law Commissioners on the 10th of January, in which it was recommended that Li verpool should be added to the Northern Circuit. The LORD CHANCELLOR—The Commissioners Lave as yet made no report. Lord BROUGHAM said he had certainly heard that such was the case. The LORD CHANCELLQR had heard so many absurd things in the course of his life that he was not surprised. MAYNOOTH. The Duke of CLEVELAND presented several peti tions against the grant to Maynooth. The Emil of RODEN presented sixty-six petitions from Protestant congregations in Ireland against the grant to Maynooth, several from the Isle of Wight, and three from Jersey, to the same effect. The Noble Lord gave notice that when the Bill for the endowment of Maynooth College came to be read a second time, he would move for the arpointment of a Select Committee to inquire into the doctrines taught in that school, and that the Bill be referred to the Com mittee. The Duke of WELLINGTON moved the first read ing of the Maynooth Bill, and that it be printed. He memnt to give notice of t!.e second reading of tbat Bill on Mouthy, the 2d of June. CONDEMNED SERMONS. The Marquk , of NOR.IANBY inquired of Lord Wharnchtfe whether any inquiry had been made as to the propriety or admitting the public to hear the sermons preached at Nevvgate be.tore the condemned criminals ? Lord WHARNGLIFFE said that the matter had been inquired into, but the report had not yet been received. SANATORY CONDITION 'OF TOWNS. A NOBLE LORD gave notice of a petition which he had intended to present to the House that night from the working classes at Manchester, praying that an inquiry be made into their sanatory condition, but he would post pone its presentation until Monday next. SMALL DEBTS BILL. Lord BROUGHAM moved the first reading of a Bill entitled " An Act for securing the payment of small debts." The motion was acceded to. MAYNOOTH. The Marquis of BREADALBANE rose to present the peti tion of which he had given notice, from the late conference of delegates held in London. The Noble Marquis read the peti tion, which expressed great dissatisfaction and alarm at the proposed grant to Maynooth, which the petitioners considered to be strangely at variance with the Protestant religion, and caleulated to reduce religion generally to a mere political ma chine. The petitioners, proceeded the Noble Marquis, grounded their opposition on a religious view of the question. As Pro testants they could not give their sanction to a measure which they looked upon as opposed not only to the feeling of Pro testants, but to the feelings of the country generally. It was, in his opinion, a most unwise and impolitic course which the Government had adopted in bringing forward that measure. The Right Hon. Gentleman at the head of her Majesty's Go vernment had himself admitted that there was a strong opi nion in the country against it. There was never a measure introduced into Parliament that went so far to subvert the established religion of the country and bring into general ope ration the voluntary principles as the language held out was— rather perish the Establishment than allow such a grant. With these observations he would conclude by moving that the peti tion do lie upon the table. Lord CH ARLEVILLE complained of the short time allowed between the first and second readings of the Bill. He might be told that the second reading of the Catholic Relief Bill followed on a shorter period after the first reading, but it would be recollected that on that occasion, that the reason given was, that the subject had been fully debated before the measure was brought before the House in the shape of a Bill. Though many petitions bad been presented on the subject of endowments to Roman Catholics, it was a rule of the House that no petitions conld be received respecting any particular measure till the Bill was before the House. Now there were only four days allowed the peop'.e to present their peti tions—a period quite insufficient to give them an opportunity of fully and freely expressing their sentiments. In 1829 there were 922 petitions presented in favour of Ca tholio Emancipation, and there were 2,865 petitions against it, and certainly if the number of the petitioners could be taken as an indication of public opinion, this great majority of three to one showed that the sense of the British public was against Catholic emancipation. But against the May nooth grant there had been presented 8,753 petitions, which were signed by 1,106,772 names, whereas but sixty-one pe titions had been presented in favour of the Bill. Under these circumstances he besought the House to remember that this ill stood upon a different position from other Bills, for it was a money Bill, and their Lordships could make no alteration in it whatever. He therefore called upon her Ma jesty's Government to reconsider their determination, and to allow the Protestant people of this United Empire one small week more, to express their opinion. The Duke of WELLINGTON said—The Noble Lord has called upon me to postpone fora " little week" the notice which I have given but half an hour ago, that the Maynooth Oollege Bill shall be read a second time on the 2d of June. Now, my Lords, the Noble Lord has forgotten the latitude which has already been given to this Bi il. This Bill, since its introduc tion in the other House, two months ago—or nearly two months ago—upon the 3d of April las'. aly Lords, it will be two months witien a day wh en th e propos i t i on will be laid before you for tho second reading of the Bill ; and now there are ten days given for the opportunity of presenting petitions, which I think is as long as could be required for :Bill which has already been a month under the consideration of Parliament. There will be ample opportunity for presenting petitions not only between this and the second reading, but in the succes sive steges of the Bill; and I feel it my duty to persevere in bringing on the second reading of the Bill on the 2d of June. The Earl of IVINCHILSE A, said that when their Lord whips considered there would be but two days of Parliamentary business next week, it would not be too much to postpone the. second reading of this fatal measure for another week. The steuntry had not yet had sufficient opportunity of considering this Bill, and he hoped the second reading would be postponed. lie had several petitions which he had not yet had an oppor tunity of presenting. The Marquis of BRE AD A L BANE had also several petitions to present. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that the Bill should be read a second time on the 2d of June. The Bishop of LICHFIELD presented several petitions against the grant. The Duke of RICHMOND presented petitions from Banff, and several other plates, against the grant. RAILWAYS. Lord BROUG hIANI presented a petition from Wilf, at y, fox Talbot, Esq., of Laycock Abbey, in Wilts. The pet it ion stated that the petitioner and his family had her;, in possession of the estates ever since the Reformatio7,—during three centuries. The estate, which was very h_•:,autilul, was to be intersected by the Wilts, Somerset, Pl u . Weymouth railway, which would entirely destroy tl' . comfort and enjoyment of this estate. Not wit itstandin- every effort, Mr. Talbot had been unable to ob tain information as to the route the line was to take until Ol e very last day, when, according to the standing orders, no tice c,oold be lodged. The number of proprietors in the parish was 90, and out of those proprietors only nine were assen tients to the railway. Notwithstanding all this, the directors, who seemed to think that they were in possession of unlimited powers, paid not the slightest regard to the feelings of the proprietors, because they felt assured that their Bill would pass throuigh Parliament. The proposed line was '22 miles long, while a line was devised which would be no more than 10 miles long. Laycock Abbey was one of the most magnificent mansions in any part of this country. He could bear testimony to this, for he had seen a representati to of the mansion, not taken by the common usage of draughtsmen, but by a means whieh could not fail—he meant the photographic process. This process was the discovery of the petitioner, who was not otily a maw of extensive practical scientific attainment, but also one of the most brilliant mathematicians at present existing in this country. Earl FIT ZWILLIANI said that he presented himself, not as She advocate of an individual, but of all those who were injured by these projects. Yet, if their Lordships supposed that they eaw before them one who was opposed to railways, they greatly erred. He would be delighted to see the whole country inter sected with railways. He d• sired to see every market town in England approached by one. But if any of their Lordships did not desire such extension, and represented any town wh ich was against it, he did not wish that town to be included in the number. He did not wish that any place where just objections could be urged against a railway, should have one forced upon it ; and he considered that the place from which the Noble Lord presented the petition was a place of That kind. There were many others similarly circum stanced which had frequently come before the notice of their Lordships. It was i mposs ib le to justify the conduct of the projectors of many of those schemes ; and he thought it would enable their Lordships to understand better how they managed these things if he read them a few extracts from a newspaper relative to a projected rail way . H e thought it would excite a little curiosity and no little astonishment, and that it was cal zulated to show the English to be a most gullible people.— ( The Noble Earl here read some extracts from a prospectus in the Railway Times, which was headed " Great Eastern and Western nallway," and which stated that a new line was to be l a id down, commencing at Great armouth, and ending at Swansea.) In that prospectus, continued his Lordship, they proposed to bring iron from Merthyr Tydvil, and other places, ai rt there Iva.; scarcely a place in England that was no t name d, and winch they alleged would receive benefit from this line. They were to convey Welsh slates, which their Lordships knew were peculiar to Caernarvon — they lime ey were to convey for awl cultural purposes—Droitwich salt, and the trade in woollens, silks, and Welsh flannels was to be greatly extended among the eastern counties, and, in fact, that every sort of produce and manufacture was to find a rea n d i y eh outlet Yarmou'h and the promoters of these :ch w e a m ns, s . gull T e r d ig th w e a e s ou th n e tr w y a . y in \r' )7Y, he held in his hand a re porttua tog , railway, and 1 , 41 of a Committee on the Ely and H In ChM report it was stated that there was . not a single hincpas3:.l indi vidual in the whole district thr3tighwhich tt who wan connected with it. Tee sharehakiers all resided at Liverpool, Manchester, and a great number of places in the north of England. That was the way in which the people of the country were seduced to encourage these schemes.—( Hear, hear.) What was the case, however, which was made out by the promoters? There were vat ious principles on which the price of the purchase of land might be adjusted. There was the price which might be ar rived at by valuation, and they might take the charge to the railway company by a multiple of that valuation. Their Lord.- ships were aware that the railway companies were about to lay before Parliament some returns of their probable revenue, and whether the company was to take a hundred or a thousand acres of land, the House would be enabled to calculate the pro portion of revenue derived from carriage over that land, and thus estimate the value of the land to the company. In this calculation he bad not included sufferance. Their Lordships were aware that an Act called the Railway Clauses Consolidation Act had been passed during the present session, which made a great improvement in the purchase of land. By that Act the proprietors of the land might go either before a jury or before arbitrators. But in some cases, as in the line from Great Yarmouth to Swansea, which passed through eleven different counties, the juries or the arbitrators on that line might take eleven different views of their duty, and he therefore thought that some fixed principle should be adopted for the valuation of land, whereby the rich man should not get more, or the poor man less, than was his due. He was aware that there was a liability of bargains being made beforehand, but knowing, as he did, that these bargains would always bear an impress of the power of those with whom the bargains were made to oppose ,the line, these two modes of valuation be forehand, and of valuation by persons employedby Government, were well worthy of consideration, and he should, therefore, move that a Committee be appointed to inquire as to how far it was practicable to ascertain whether any, and what mode of valuation could be adopted, and also to take the question of severance, both as regarded the owners of and residents on pro perty. through which any I roposed line was to pass. Lord STANLEY was not opposed to the Committee which his Noble Friend (Earl Fitzwilliam) had proposed. His Noble Friend proposed to go to a jury or a commission before the line came before Parliament. Why, that was precisely the course now pursued. The ether course which his Noble Friend proposed to take, was a certain multiple of an uncertain quantity, and this was no better than before, but his Noble Friend had left the question of severance altogether out of sight. Now, the real grievance was that the owners of mansions were de prived of that which to them was above all price. With respect to the princivle proposed by the Noble Earl it was equally unreasonable. The attempt to value land by the revenue which was to be derived from it, was alto gether an untenable point, for the fact was, that the profits on a railway were derived, not from the land, but from the ex tremes on either side, and, therefore, there was no principle whatever on which compensation should be given. These were the two principles which the Noble Earl had proposed, and he thought that hehad shown that there were no grounds on which the Committee could proceed ; but if his Noble Friend would bring any tangible measure before the House, in the shape of a Bill or motion for a Commission, he should be happy to meet it. He had no objection to the Committee, but he saw no practical benefit likely to arise from the Committee ; yet if their Lordships should consider that it was advisable to appoint such a Committee, he should offer no objection. Lord BROUGHAM agreed in a great measure with what had been so clearly and so forcibly said by the Noble L' rd (Lord Stanley). He thought the House ought to accede to the motion as, in his opinion, it would lead to important re sults to the public, the landowners, and the proprietors of railways. He knew from long experience of the decisions of juries that they set the real value of property required for the purposes of ;a railway to the owner aside, and awarded only a compensation suited to land sited for the commonest purposes. He should like to know what compensation that would be for taking part of the lawn in front of his house? Yet he was of opinion that it was in vain to think of laying down any general rule for the negotiation of parties in relation to these matters, as each transaction varied, and must depend upon the peculiar circumstances connected with it. Among the many unfavour able doctrines which he held with respect to railways was this, that he would much rather see a railway delayed for a certain time, and then carried out on proper principles, and without interfering with the sacred rights of property, which were of more importance, than see it carried out in opposition to them, and with injury to their property. He had prepared a stand ing order, which he was dt-sirous of submitting to the con sideration of the Committee proposed by his Noble Friend, to the effect that a certain number of assents should be necessary from each important district through which it was proposed to carry a line, before the proposition could be entertained, for what opposition could a poor man, whose few acres might be affected, offer to the scheme when it was before that House? lie must come to the House with his attorney and his witnesses, and spend several hundred pounds, when he was not worth as many shillings. He agreed with his Noble Friend, that every village should have a railway. Earl FITZWILLIAM—No; I said every market-town. Lord BROUGHAM—WeII, every market-town. But they ought to be, if possible, with the consent of the landed pro prietors over whose property they were intended to run. It was only just anti natural—nay, it was a most amiable and praise worthy principle—to be anxious to preserve their fa mily residences. But they must not stop here, as there was another thing very advantageous to see —that overgrown estates should be a little more equalized. His friends were frightened at the very idea of this —what he meant was, that the property of a man who had not more than 701. a year, and who was starving, and another who was in the possession of 70,0001. or 80,0001., should have equal justice meted out to them, and that all the benefits should not go to railway Pr oprietors. He threw out these suggestions for the consideration of the Committee, which, he hoped, would be able to effect something for the benefit of proprietors—consult ing their interests, and the interests of the railway proprietors, and, is ith this hope, he heartily wished that their Lordships would be induced to give their sanction to the motion of his Noble Friend. The Earl of WICKLOW was sorry the Noble Lord (Lard Brougham) was in favour of the motion ; his statement and the statement of the Noble Farl did not hold out any inducement to Noble Lords to grant it. The objects for which they were desirous to see it appointed differed. The Noble Lord (Lord Brougham) was 'desirous that the Committee should consult a certain standing order which was not on the table of the House. Lord BROUGHAM said they were on the table. The Earl of WICKLOW said he was glad of that, and was desirous that they should go before the Committee for its eon siceration, in the event of their Lordships acceding to the mo tion. But whatever might be his intention as to the future achption of these standing orders, he trusted it was not his in tention to apply them to the railway propositions before Parliament, for nothing could be more unjust.—(Hear, hear.) Lord BROUGHAM said it was not. The Earl of WICKLOW said he was glad the Noble Lord had taken an opportunity of stating that that was not his in ention. Lord BROUGHAM thought he had mentioned it. It was his most clear intention not to apply the standing order he had specified to the schemes before Parliament. The House must not take them by surprise. He had totally omitted a suggestion which ought to come before the Committee—that notice should be given that no Bill could be passed in this ses sion which did not come up on or before a certain day. The best course would be, to give notice of the day, and that those coming up after that must be deferred until next session. One of his objects in proposing the standing orders was to save ex pense. _ Lord HATHERTON hoped that some plan would be adopted by which the poor man would have the means of re dress. There were many instances of small freeholds being entirely ruined by railways, and inadequate compensation awarded to their proprietors. They bad been bandied about from year to year in the hope of getting redress. He hoped that the Committee would consider the necessity of appointing land-agents and other parties in various parts of the country to constitute a tribunal to see and enforce the fulfilment of the contracts of Railway Companies with persons who bad not the means of doing so themselves. Parties dissatisfied with arbi tration had a remedy by a suit in equity, or by action at corn mon law. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY was glad the Noble Lord (Lord Stanley) had not offered any apposition to the motion, as he believed it would give great satisfaction to the landowners. The Bill which had been lately passed with respect to railways was most objectionable in many points, and he could cite many cases of hardship in connexion with it. For instance a railway might be carried for 100 miles through mining property, which was in no degree valued except under an arrangement by the railway directors, who sent their engi neer to make a valuation. Could anything be more unjust than a valuation by an interested party? A compulsory clause ought to have been put in the Bill to compel the parties to purchase the mine under the railway. It was necessary for the public safety that a fair remuneration should be given to the indivi dual who owned the mine, which he was obliged to work for a number of years by the terms of the lease. It was said that it was not safe to work a mine under a railway. Then the com pany should be forced to buy it, otherwise the unfortunate pro prietors would be seriously injured. They ought to insert a clause to that effect in the Bill. If the Committee were ap pointed, cases would come out which would render it necessary that justice should be rendered. Several motions were postponed till Monday, and their Lord ships adjourned. THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, MAY 24, 1845. Mr. GISBORNE contended that the Committees were the proper tribunals before which to decide this question, and it was only five weeks ago that this House had made a resolution to that effect. that the Admiralty did not approve of officers interfering with what they considered to be under their peculiar province and superintendence.—(Hear, hear.) In his opinion, how ever, the Admiralty ought to be obliged to officers when they came forward and pointed out what they thought to constitute defects in the vessels to which they were destined, and in which frequently their lives and honour were at stake. He, for his own part, would be more ready to bestow praise than blame on the Admiralty, and he was sure they would give him the credit of having no evil design in thus finding fault. The experimental squadron was about to sail, and the Admiralty had given special orders as to the construction of those vessels. He would request that strict inquiries should 15e made as to the exact quantity of stores which those ships would hold. He had been informed that vessels built by Sir Wm. Symonds were capable of containing more stores than any other. Each of these ships had been built on a different principle, and he trusted that a correct account would be taken of the amount in water and provisions that was stored in each. If that veers done, Sir W. Symonds would have an opportunity of contrast ing the comparative qualifications . of each. A report should then be drawn up, and transmitted to the Admiralty, and that ship in which it appeared the greatest quantity of stores could be stowed without deteriorating from its sailing powers was, without doubt, the best ship, and would afford a correct model for the construction of others. He would wish to impress this view of the case on the consideration of the Admiralty. The subject to which he would next refer was that of steamers, a most important question. When the present Board came into office in 1841, their attention was very early called to the construction of steam-heats. He could not say that their predecessors had shown much skill in the formation of steam men of-war, but still he considered it was better attended to by them than at present. The late Board contented them selves with building steam corvettes, with one gun ahead, one astern, and two adeck. They attempted two frigates—the Cyclops and the Dolphin. They had them formed with port holes, but when it was attempted to man them with long guns, it was found that the port-holes were under water ; in fact, the frigates were perfectly incapable of carrying such guns at all. If they were not capable of being used as steam frigates, he asked the reason why they were built 300 or 400 tons larger, in order to carry the same weight of metal as steam-vessels ? When the present Board of Admiralty came into office, they got a large grant of money to build steam men of-war. The Firebrand was the first one laid down by them. The Hon. Gentleman opposite, the Secretary, would recollect his going to see the experimental squadron ; and he knew what was the opinion of the Captain of the Firebrand on that occasion. He (Sir Charles Napier) hoped that he would frankly and honestly state what the opinion of Captain Corry was, without any subterfuge or reservations.—(Laughter. ) He hoped that in giving it there would be no going about the bush.—( Renewed laughter and cheers.) It was right that they should know, and he ( Sir Charles Napier) wished himself particularly to know from the Hon. Gentle man if the boilers and paddles were not above the water, if it were possible to man with great guns in heavy weather, and whether the manning of the stern-ports did not block up the cabin so as to render it unfit to live in from defective ventila tion—whether the captain was not obliged to go into another place, or on to the deck for a mouthful of fresh air ? They had therefore tried the Firebrand, and failed Mr. CORRY—The Firebrand was laid down by the late A dm iralty. Sir CHARLES NAPIER—The more shame to them. He now came to the Retribution. He had been aboard, and ex amined her, and though he had not seen her with her stores and provisions aboard, yet he believed she was like all the others, so constructed as, when fully equipped, to be com pletely immersed in water. She was larger than the frigates were in the late war, yet so constructed as to render it impos sible for her to carry heavy guns on the main deck. The • steam-boilers were so exposed, that a shot fired into the ma chinery would immediately blow her up. The next he came to was the Gladiator. He had also been aboard of her, and she was exactly the same. Her engines and boilers were high and exposed in the most dangerous manner. The Samson appeared to him to be the only steamer constructed to be really useful. Her boilers were lower than the others, her engines better made, and eenerally she was better adapted for the pur poses of war. The Retribution was built in 1840, and would the House believe that the builder, or whoever else had the superintendence and getting up the plans, actually in her con struction forgot to give her any stern ports at all ; and the guns had to be mounted on carriages in the clumsiest manner —in a sort of up -and-go-kick style, in order to keep them to overlook the bulwarks. The whole thing was perfectly ab surd, and' he called upon the Admiralty for a full explana tion. The three steamers, the Avenger, the Dragon, and the Centaur now building, were not too far advanced to be chanted, if the builders, or whoever else had the super intendence of them, were instructed by the Govern ment to make the necessary alterations. Without this. if they were called into action, they would be found totally inefficient. The present Admiralty had allowed him to construct a steam boat upon what he conceived to be correct principles, and he had applied himself to the subject for many months. He had acqnired information from builders and engineers on the sub ject, and he had come to the conclusion that there was no hope of an improvement so long as the Admiralty kept to themselves the management of this department. The Queen's yacht was a steam-vessel of which he had not spoken before. When she was first completed, it was discovered she could not steer at all. She was altered, and upon a second trial she succeeded better, though she was far from being in an efficient state. She was so badly constructed that they were obliged to place 100 tons of ballast in her, in addition to the weight of her machinery. She was a second time ordered for doctoring, and instead of her being up at Woolwich for that purpose she was sent round from that place to Portsmouth, while her boilers, which had been taken out there, were sent round after her, at a n expense of 600/. H e had asked for a return of the enormous expense incurred in the construction of this ship, and though he had not yet got it, he could prove what he stated to be true. He had now explained at great length his views on the construction of the ships of the navy, and he would now ask of what use would such steam-vessels be in ease of war ? He would ask the Admiralty, what would be the effect if the Terrible, for instance, was put in an action ? The first shot through her, he would bet ten thousand guineas, would go through the steam-engine, and render her entirely useless. But were the boilers placed below the water, the machinery would be perfectly secure. In the former case, he would not go on board for any sum of msney, as he would be certain to come out absolutely boiled.—(Great laughter.) Supposing that instead of a period of profound peace, as at present, they were at war, and that such steamers were ordered to attack a fort or battery, what would be the result ? Why, he was sure the engineers would not stay below after the first shot. And he thought that they would be acting quite right, for he would not himself go down under such circumstances, as he would have no disposition to be boiled. Officers entered the service to run the chance of being shot at by guns, or attacked by swords and similar weapons ; but not for the purpose of being boiled.—( Loud laughter and cheers.) It was no part of the contract of officers to be placed in the position of being blown up upon the firing of the first shot. To place such steam boats before a battery would be perfectly useless. He would to 1 Hon. Gentlemen opposite that his conduct in opening up this question had done a great deal of good, Sir G. COCKBURN—A great deal of harm. Sir CHARLES NAPIER said he did not think so. He never saw or knew any good done without standing up in the House and agitating the question, or by the press doing the same. By agitation alone was these matters to be remedied. This agitation had already done great good, and the effect would be to have the ships in future better built and better manned. But they must have a man who could give the whole of his attention to the construction of vessels—a man to whom the whole responsibility of the matter could be intrusted ; allowing the Admiralty to act in the ca pacity_ of the old naval Board. Let them lo de a t France, with her enormous steam fleet, most, if not theud capable of containing of profound p containingmaking arsenals at Cherbourg, constructing a 2 l , l ooo of troops basins at St. o Mallow's, capable of holding 200 steam-boats, b e sid es fo rm i ng r m 26 o o re ; fer nd l , on in g, a similar works at Havre and Calais. He thought rewards should be held out by the Admiralty for ingenuity and enter prise to discover some mode of preventing the possibility of accidents to boilers and the more intricate machinery of steam boats. Such a course would lead to increased safety, and entail commensurate advantages on the country. He thanked the House for the attention with which they had heard him. He had considered it his duty to bring the matter before their notice, and he trusted its benefits would not be f, 'mid wanting. Mr. SOM ES regretted that the Gallant Member for Mary lebone should have deemed it consistent with his duty to dis parage the present Board of Admiralty and its attempts to promote the interests of the service. He had been connected with steam-ship building for several years, and was, there fore, enabled to speak with some confidence on the subject. , In the Terrible, of 1,800 tons, which he had had an opportunity of inspecting that day, no diffi cu lt y was f e l t i n h av i ng t h e i r guns on the main deck , and in fact to all vessels constructed on a similar plan, the same observation was applicable. Besides, the Gallant Member should 'recollect that steam-ship building was as yet but in its infancy. Would be, ten years ago, have asked the Board of Admiralty to construct a fleet of fifty steam vessels? The most important improvements had been intro duced since that period, and the Archimedian screw, which, doubtless, would supersede every other method of steam power, had but within the last few months been satisfactorily completed. With respect to the extent of the steam fleet of this empire, the Hon. Member should recollect that it was not only the 104 al ready in the navy, but the 150 steam vessels in the merchant service which could be made serviceable in case of emergency, and taking into consideration that and other concurrent circum stances, he thought the kind of discussion so repeatedly intro duced by the Gallant Commodore calculated to injure rather than promote the interests of the country. Captain PECHELL said that he could not at all un derstand how any Member could designate such discus sions injurious. Such an argument was as new as the position of the Hon. Member who had come so opportunely to the support of the Admiralty. He agreed with that Gentleman that the English navy was able to compete with any in the world, but it was not only necessary that a ship should be able to chase an enemy but also to escape; and with the overhang ing sterns, it was absolutely dangerous to use the guns unless specially arranged for the purpose. He thought steam eressels should be sent out with the experimental squadron now fitting ; their capabilities for towing heavy and dismantled vessels should be tested, and every trial given for putting their qualifications, as well as defects, beyond dispute. As to the line-of-battle ships intended to go out during the present season, four had been prepared at Plymouth, appearing in rotation at Portsmouth one by one. There they had been t a ken into dock, and been cleaned so as to reduce their draught to 22 feet. Why this had not been done at Plymouth it was not for him to say. There was amply sufficient water at that port. In fact, the San Josef had been sent there solely on account of the depth of water she re quired, and the accommodation afforded almost exclusively in that harbour. He recommended the adoption of a home for the reception of seamen, so that ships might be readily manned without the pernicious interference of the class of men termed crimps. Such a course had been pursued by the Messrs. Green for the manning of their ships, and having proved eminently successful, was well - worthy the consideration of the Admiralty. Mr. E. CORRY must repeat what he had before af firmed, that the practice of uniformly depreciating the naval service of this country, and elevating others in comparison, was fraught with the utmost mischief ; it must tend to dis courage the energy of the seamen, hitherto so celebrated for their courage an d p ersevera nce, and eventually entail harm both on the service and the country. Sir GEORGE COCKBURN was astonished that the Hon. Member for Brighton should have cast an unfounded insinuation on the Admiralty, and an unwarrantable attack on his Friend the Member for Dartmouth. He, for one, rather felt obliged to the latter gentleman for his kind tes timony to the efficiency of the navy, and he thought the House would concur in his sense of obligation, especially considering the experience and independence of the authority. He had not been in a hurry to answer the Gallant Commodore, because he had done so again and again before. They had been making in the navy many experiments, and they were going to try the rotatory engines, and he was in hopes that shortly they would be enabled in all vessels to use the screw. The only difficulty they had to contend with in the screw was when a vessel had got a head wind to contend with. The Hon. Gentleman then went on to argue that the Admi ralty were not deserving of the aspersions that had been made against them, that they had done all they could to place the navy of England ir. a proper condition. and to redeem the neg lect of their predecessors in office. With respect to the steam ship, the Victoria and Albert, his firm belief was, that she was as fine a vessel as ever existed, and she was not to be decried, because in a gale she had not answered.t had her helm in caning from Scotland. In consequ ence of that, t been thought right to make some alterations in her construe. tion, which he was in hopes would have the effect of putting an end to all further complaints. Upon the whole, the Admiralty did not deserve the assertions that had been made against them. Mri HOIE considtred that the House ought to consider itself under obligations to those who pointed out any evils con nected with the navy. If the statements of the Gallant Com modore were correct, no one could doubt that there were many evils that ought to be put an end to. He thought the Admi ralty ought to consider well before they put the country to an expense of upwards of one million sterling. He believed that what had been stated by the Gallant Commodore was calculated to put her Majesty's navy in a much better condition than it was at present. They might say what they pleased, but his opinion was, that the navy of England was now fit to cope with the whole world. He was against any increase in the navy, but if any defects could be pointed out, he should be one of the first to do all in his power to remedy them. Captain BERKELEY said, that he could not blame the Hon. and Gallant Member for bringing this matter before the House. He thought that if, instead of Sir Robert Stopford having ordered steamers to take line-of-battle ships in tow, he had ordered the steamers should be brought up at once to the stations, it would have obviated the necessity of line-of-battle ships being brought up. He should certainly support the Hon. and Gallant Commodore. Mr. WAR BURTON said he concurred in the views of the Noble Lord (llowick), and would support his proposition. They were bound to protect the public by enacting that the rates should not exceed a certain standard. He, therefore, entirely agreed with the Noble Lord. Sir G. GREY said he considered the efforts of the Com mittee, as regarded the rate of charges, useless—in fact they fixed them higher than the railways ordinarily charged. Sir G. CLERK said the Committee had taken a great deal of pains to ascertain the proper rates of toll. If the House were to adopt the general regulations suggested by the Noble Lord they would inflict a great injustice on the Railway Com panies. The resolution of the Noble Lord was inconsistent with the Act of last session. Mr. L ABOUCH ER E considered the amendment a very important one, and thought the public would not excuse them if they did not support it. The rates adopted upon Irish railroads was 30. a mile, and the rate assigned for railways in the manufacturing districts was equally high and exorbitant. Railway Companies had a great influence in that House, which was brought to bear by a system of canvassing, and, therefore, they need he under no apprehension that in any ge neral measure they would injure railway schemers or railway proprietors.—( Hear.) The House was -very chary of the in terests of those proceedings. They should keep in their hands the means, not of exacting unfair conditions from railway capi talists, but of benefiting the public at large. Some remedy should be devised to deal with the extraordinary amount of railway business. He would support the motion of his Noble Friend the Member for Sunderland, but thought it should not be made a standing but only a sessional order. Lord GRAN VILLE SOMERSET said, the motion of the Noble Lord was a most important one, but he thought too general and extensive in its terms. He was of opinion that the most erroneous notions had been taken on the subject. He thought that if there was a regulation made as to the charges to be made on railways, the result would be that a higher rate of charge would be made than took place now. He did not think that the House was prepared for so great a pro position as that of the Noble Lord. He must certainly, there fore, vote against it.. . Mr. BERNAL would make but a few observations en the question before the House. He should certainly support the view which his Hon. and Gallant Friend had taken on this question. Unless they were to prepare certain mathematical lines on which their war steamers should be built, in order to bring the principle of ship building to a certainty, he thought that the observations of the Hon. and Gallant Commodore were not ill-founded. Some ten or eighteen years ago the necessity of steam-vessels being employed in naval warfare was brought before the notice of the House, but it was only within the last five years that they had adopted steamers at all. The House then went into Committee. On the vote of 1,199,1411. being proposed for naval stores, Sir C. NAPIER rose and said that he objected to the mode in which steam-vessels were manned, and he should, therefore, object to the vote which had just been proposed. Mr. HUME objected to the vote, which, in the present cir cumstances of the country, he considered extravagant. He wished to know whether any experiment had been made respecting Sir W. Burnett's invention for the prevention of dry rot in canvass. Viscount'EBRINGTON thought he should best pursue his duty by moving that the debate should be adjourned to Monday next. Mr. SOMES said that 40,030 yards of canvass ksd been prepared on his premises, on Sir W. Burnett's process. After a few words from Captain Pechell, Mr. Somes, and Mr. M. O'Ferrall, _ _ Mr. W. PATTEN seconded the motion. If the debate were adjourned to Monday there would be time for duly con sidering this subject. Mr. PARKER suggested that it would be better to with draw the motion and amendment, and bring them forward as a substantive motion on Monday. Sir JAMES GRAHAM inquired if it was intended that the proposed revision would be prospective or would be retro-active in its effect. Lord INGESTRE made a few observations as to the trials of the experimental brigs. lie wished to say that there were three selected, and the result was anything but satisfactory, either as to their construction or powers of sailing. Mr. M. O'FERRALL defended the character and conduct of the Surveyor of the Navy in reference to the part he took in regard to the experimental cruise. Sir G. COCKBURN said the reason the ships in ques tion had been selected for the experimental cruise was because of the recommendation of Sir W. Symonds, who had named those vessels as those best acquainted with the quarter they were .ent to. Lord HOWICK would make it apply to all existing com panies who came for fresh powers. The number of Railway Bills which had been brought forward for the first time this session was so great, and all more or less were competing lines with existing companies, and he was perfectly satisfied that this competition would compel the existing companies to re duce their rates of charge. Mr. PAKINGTON thought the motion of his Hon. Friend the Member for the West Riding of Yorkshire (Mr. S. Wortley) ought to be allowed to pass. The amendment should then be brought forward as a substantive motion on Monday. Captain BERKELEY said it appeared to him that the pro position of the Hon. Member for the West Riding of York shire would be a waste of time instead of a saving of it. The debate was then adjourned to Monday. Several petitions for and against Railway Bills were then presented. Mr. BELLEW presented a petition in favour of the Dublin and Belfast Junction Railway. Sir V. BLAKE said he wished to make an explanation.— (Cries of " Order.") He thought he was in order. The SPEAKER said the Hon. Member could only give no tices of motion. Sir V. BLAKE then said, he gave notice that he would, on the 10th of June, move two resolutions. The first, that it was improper, and inconsistent with the usages of Parliament, that the avowed enemies of her Majesty's Government should occupy the Ministerial benches.—( Laughter.) The second resolution he would upon that day move was, that as Hon. Members were in the habit of using language inconsistent with the usages of civilised society, and had been guilty of the highest disrespect to the Flouse, such Hon. Members should be in future, upon using such language, be reprimanded by the Chair, and if found incorrigible, ought to be forthwith expelled. Lord JOHN MANNERS postponed his motion upon snort main law to the 3d of June. Mr. HUME moved for the report of the last Pia Jury. After a few words from Si r G. CLERK , t h e motion was agreed to. — Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition from an individual, who complained that he had been convicted on a frivolous charge of a seditious and revolutionary character. He had already called the attention of the Lord Advocate to the sub ject. The petition contained a long detail of grievances, into which he would not enter at present. The petitioner's name was Johnstone. Mr. Al. MILNES presented a petition from the New Zea land Society, signed by every member of it, and complaining of the manner in which their claims had been dealt with by Captain Fitzroy and by the Colonial-office. He begged to say that the New Zealand Society was quite a distinct body from the New Zealand Company. Captain BERKELEY presented a petition against the Mer chant Seamen's Bill. The vote was agreed to. The sum of 486,486/. was slated for the purpose of the dock yard, Sir C. Napier, Capt. Bowles, Mr. Corry, and Captain Pechell having taken part in the debate. The sum of 19,7581. was then voted for the medical purposes of the Navy. On the motion of Mr. CORRY, 118,1071. was voted for the miscellaneous purposes of the service. A vote of 159,6401. was then proposed for the half-pay of the officers of the navy. Sir C. NAPIER took that opportunity of calling the atten tion of the Hon, and Gallant Officer opposite to the position of the masters in the navy. The masters were most important persons in ships of war. Captains and Admirals could not conduct their ships without having efficient masters. If the name of master could be dune away with altogether, it would be most advantageous to the service. Let them hold commis sion as lieutenants, and, passing a similar examination, be en dowed with equal rank and prospects of promotion. Sir G. COCKBURN agreed with the Gallant Officer in considering the masters as one of the most valuable classes in the navy, but wholly differed from him respecting the position in which he would place them. Captain ROUS said it was his firm belief that not five out of six midshipmen who had passed their examination as lieute nants during the last ten years, were capable of properly filling the vocations to which they had been called. And he felt sa tisfied they were not competent to perform the office of master. If his opinion was acted on, the office of master in the navy would be abolished altogether. Sr C. NAPIER agreed with the Hon. Member who had just spoken. Any one who spoke the truth was always ac cused of crying down the profession. Mr. WILLIAMS called the attention of the House to the fact that in the year 1818, on the close of the war, the sum expended on retired officers was 1,230,0001. ; it now in a time of peace amounted to 1,377,0001., showing a much larger half-pay, after thirty years of peace, than at the close of the war. The widows' pensions in !822 were 120,000/., in the present vote, 212,0001., nearly double the amount, and it did appear to him very strange that they should have upon the half pay list 4,200 widows receiving pensions. Mr. BROTHERTON moved that the House report progress. Mr. HUME thought the statement of the Gallant Officer was very important, and required serious attention. The half pay list of the navy evident!) , required reformation. Deserving men were neglected in the navy, whilst patronage did every thing. Admiral DUNDAS thought the examination spoken of by the Gallant Officer sufficiently severe. Sir JAMES GRAHAM had listened with attention to the speech of the Gallant Officer, but could not agree with much that had been stated by him. The Gallant Commodore opposite had spoken much of the want of proper discipline and efficient training in the navy, but a circumstance had occurred within the last six months which, in his opinion, negatived such a supposition. A distinguished officer had lately returned to this country, in whose judgment and integrity he had the fullest confidence. He alluded to Sir William Parker, commander of the Chinese expedition. On his return he (Sir J. Graham) asked him what was his opinion of the merits of all rants of the service which had been in that expedition. Sir W. Parker had assured him that at no time, and under no circumstances, had officers and men shown so great a know ledge Of what they had to do as the men and officers in China bad done.—( Hear, hear.) Captain BERKELEY complained of the manner in which preferments had been made in the naval service by the Go vernment. Young men had been put over the heads of old ones, and party men had been chosen for preferment in pre ference to those who held honest opinions. Sir G. COCKBURN—The Gallant Officer was speaking about the experimental squadron, and was asking who was to have the command- He told the Gallant Officer that it was not settled; but that his name was amongst those whom he thought of submitting for the consideration of the Board. The conversation went on, and he asked the Gallant Commodore if he would prefer as his ship a three-decker or a two-decker ; when he had said this he put down the Gallant Commodore's name with some other names ; these were brought before the Board of Admiralty and Lord Haddington himself, and when the Board came to consider those names the name of Hyde Parker was mentioned. It was at once considered that Ad miral Hyde Parker, being an Admiral, was the best person who could be selected. They did not doubt the gallantry or the ability of the Hon. Member the Gallant Commodore ; but he had taken so active a part against the ships of Sir W. Sy monds that they gave up the idea of pressing upon him the command, and thought it would be more satisfactorily and better done by Admiral Hyde Parker, who was an indifferent person. This decision was not come to on account of the dif ferent party of the Gallant Commodore, but on account of the part he had taken in that House in abusing the ships about to be tried, the Albion and Queen especially ; and no doubt it would be advantageous not to send out a decided partisan, when they could obtain an indifferent person. When the Gallant Commodore was told that Admiral Hyde Parker was chosen, the question he put was, " Is it settled who is to command the experimental squadron ?" The reply had refer ence to his being a party man with regard to the building of the ships; there was no allusion to party otherwise than with reference to that. Sir C. NAPIER said, that as the Gallant. Admiral had told his story, it. was right that he should tell his own. He had first seen Lord Haddington ; the conversation turned on the subject of the experimental squadron. He (Sir C. Napier) then said, " I wish you would give me the experimental squardron, and I will give you a fair report." Afterwards, talking about the experimental squadron with the Gallant Admiral, he had said—" I wish you would give me the com mand, and you shall know all about it." The answer of the Gallant Admiral was—" You are just the very fellow we want ; you are a straightforward sort of person ; we shall get the truth from you." The reply was—" If you send me in command of the experimental squadron, I will tell you the truth, whether you like it or do not like it." The Gallant Admiral then said—" What ship would you like ? Would you like the Canopus ?" He replied—" No ; if I choose a ship, it shall be the St. Vincent ; if I have the command, I must have such powers as will enable me thoroughly to exercise the squadron ; I must be allowed such powder and shat by the Admiralty as will enable me to do it effectually." So secure was he of the appointment that he went to Capt. Hamilton, and said —" Sir G. Cockburn tells me that I am to have the command of the experimental squadron." The Gallant Gentleman replied, that he did not know whether the Gallant Admiral had power to say so much, and he (Sir C. Napier) confessed he thought he had gone too far. When he went back on other matters, he asked whether it was settled who was to have the command ; the reply was, " Nothing has been settled yet." He went again subsequently, he believed about the steam-boats, and then he was told, in reply to the question whether he was to have the command, " Ne, they would not hear of your name ; you are too violent a party man; you will not have it." There was not a word said about the part he had taken as to the ships. His rejoinder was, " I am not a party man at all, and I would have done all I could for you in this instance." He then wished the Gallant Admiral " Good morning," and that was all that passed.—( Laughter. ) Captain ROUS, in reference to the complaints of the exami nations for lieutenant, and in reference to Admiral Hyde Parker himself, recollected what had taken place with a mid shipman passed by Admiral Hyde Parker. He stuttered so much he was wholly unfit for his duty; but the only way in which he could be got rid of was to invalide him. He was, therefore, brought before three invaliding captains, of whom this very Admiral Hyde Parker was one, and the Admiral ex claimed, " Who the devil passed you ?" The youth's answer was, " You did." And the Admiral retorted, " The more fool I."—( A laugh.) In his opinion the mates ought to be examined by the Trinity Board. Captain PECHELL way very desirous that the vote should pass, and he would not detain the House by making any ob servation which could give rise to discussion. But he must say, that the money which he asked for, for those seventy officers, was in equity and justice their own.—( Hear, hear.) The Chancellor of the Exchequer had possession of that money and it was the duty of the House to see that it should be re stored to them. After a few words from Sir G. COCKBURN, the vote was agreed to, The sum of 89,5401. was then moved for allowances, charges, and pensions. In answer to a question by Captain C. BERKELEY, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated that he would bring on the Ordnance estimates on Monday week. The vote was then agreed to. Upon the question being put that the sum of 89,0001. should be granted for the payment of the pensioners, and 91,6731. for defraying the expense of the transit of convicts, Mr. WARBURTON expressed a hope that a more definite mode would be adopted in future of distinguishing the Post office charge from the navy estimates. Sir C. NAPIER said he could not understand why the Post-office charges should be mixed up with the navy estimates at all. After some discussion, the vote was agreed to. The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and the other orders of the day having been disposed of, the House adjourned at half past One o'clock. RHAYADER. --- THE NA.NT-Ir CAR AND CWM RWNANT MINES.—Most valuable copper and lead mines have been discovered and are now worked with enter prise and spirit in an idol tted district in the county of Brecon, on the estates of Marmadake Gwynne, Edward D. Thomas, and William Morgan, Es qs., under the super intendence of Captain Edward J3.oberts, late of the Cowarch and other mines in North Wiles.— Shrewsbu ry Chronicle. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Mau 23. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. Mr. P. HOWARD moved, " That it be an instruction to the Committee on the Glasgow, Dumfries, and Car lisle Railway Bill, to consider the petition of the Car bile Carel Company (presented 30th of April), notwith standing the same was not presented three clear days before ihe day appointed for the first meeting of the Committee." Some discussion arose, but the motion was ultimately (as we understood) withdrawn. The report of the Great North of England (Rich • mond Branch), was brought up and laid on the table. On the motion of Mr. LIDI)ELL, the report on the Wiltshire, Somerset, and Weymouth Railway Bill was further considered, and ordered to be printed. Sir G. GREY brought up the report of the Committee on Irish Railways, which was r rdered to lie on the table. The Lady's Island and Tacurnshin Embankment Bill was moved for a second reading. It was opposed by Mr. REDINGTON and supported by Mr. F. S. MURPHY. 'The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion For the a nendment Majority The Bill was then read a second time. Mr. WODEHOUSE presented petitions agains the Eastern Union Railway Bill. Mr. I)EE DES presented a prlition from the Earl of Romney against the Rochester branch of the South- Eastern Raills ay. Also a petition from the Earl of Romney against the Croydon Railway Extension. CoI s nieIROLLESTON presented a petition against the Erewash Valley Railway. Mr. S. WORTLEY rose to move a resolution, in con formity with that recommended by the First Report of the Committee on Railways of last Session, viz.:— " That the following clause be inserted in all railway Bills passing through this House :—And he it further enacted, that nothing herein contained shall be deemed or construed to exempt the railway by this or the said recited Acts authorised to be made from the provisions of any general Act relating to such Bills, or of any general Act relating to railways, which may hereafter pass during the present or any future session of Parliament. And that the said resolution be a Standing Order of this house." Lord HOWICK said he had already called the atten tion of the t llou h s a e tdhe a t u o slre th aßd is iyils ssubject,a and he would now w id i , th n o a u m t el d y e , a t n h i a n t o. th t e h H e o r u a s t e e repeat should what pass he of charges. He did hop e th e H ouse would inter"fere for it illimitable it r a id b i l c e u p lo o u w. ridiculous that thsoeinCeocmamseis they tteeshfioxueldd thehavem a t xi ' mum rate of charges at 4d. p er t on per mile, and in others at ld., while in some o f t h e Irish railwaY s the rate was fixed at the extr avagant charge of sd. per ton per mile for the transit of lime and coals. Again he would call upon the House not to l e t th ese Bills pass the third reading without remedying this defect. CALL OF THE HOUSE. Mr. HUME said, as he had understood from the Clerk of the House that there was a sufficient number of Members to attend the Railway Committees, and to attend those which would be yet constituted, he would not press the matter further, but let his motion drop. Such was the wish, he believed, of the House generally, but if there had been any necessity for a larger attendance of Members, in order to discharge the public business, he would most certainly• have pressed his motion. Notwithstanding the backward state of public business, there had been no House on the previous evening, though there was a sufficient number of Members attending the Committees up stairs to constitute a House. He thought that when that was the case in future those Members should be summoned by the Sergeant -at-Arms. The SPEAKER was understood to say that the appearance of the Sergeant at-Arms with his mace before a Committee would not only terminate its sittings upon that day, but alto gether.—(Laughter.) Mr. ESCOIT gave notice that he would on Monday ask a question relative to the dismissal of Lieut. Holies from the East India Company's service. AC!atEMICAL EDUCATION (IRELAND). Sir R. INGLIS requested of the Right Hon. Baronet to postpone the second reading of this Bill. He made the request at the instance of a great number of individuals, who felt deeply interested in the measure. Sir J. GRAHAM said that as the Irish Members on both sides of the House were desirous that some time should elapse between the first and second reading, he would postpone _the second reading to Friday next. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. It was then moved that the House, at its rising, do adjourn until Monday next. POOR-LAW AMENDMENT (SCOTLAND) BILL. Mr. HUME hoped the Government would postpone the second reading of the Poor-law Amendment ( Scotland) Bill, in order that the people of Scotland might have time to ex press their opinions upon so important a subject. The LORD-ADVOCATE said he would postpone it to Friday next. Mr. HUME said that period was too near. Sir R. PEEL said it could then be further postponed. Mr. M. BELLEW put a question regarding the manage ment of the Dublin Scientific Societies, which was not audible. Sir T. FREMANTLE said he had not been able sufficiently to give his attention to the subject to be in a conditimi to give an answer at present. He would inquire more particularly into the matter. THE SLAVE-TRADE. Lord PALMERSTON wished to know when the papers as regarded the convention made between the American and British Governments with respect to the slave trade would be laid on the table. Sir T. FREMANTLE said that he should be able to give an answer on ➢londay to that question. Captain PEC HELL inquired whether the Admiralty could give any information as to the number of vessels belonging to America employed on the African station, under the convention with America. Sir T. FREMANTLE replied that if the Admiralty were in possession of the information desired by the Hon. and Gallant Member he should have it. GUANO. • _ _ Mr. SLIMES wished to know whether any and what steps had been taken by the Government with respect to the guano which was at present obtained for nothing from the vicinity of the Cape of Good Hope by vessels going there. Mr. CARDWELL said that permission had been given for the guano to be taken at present ; but some arrangements were in contemplation by the Government. He had forgotten to bring down the papers, but would give a definite answer on Monday next. MAILS TO THE SCILLY ISLANDS. An HON. MEMBER. complained of the great expenses which were charged for the conveyance of the mails to the Scilly Islands. He had been informed that some time since a contract had been entered into with a Navigation Company, to convey the mail bags for 75/. ; but in consequence of a dispute for 251. a year more with the Post-office, which they refused t o grant, the mails had not been transmitted at all. In order to save the expense of the 251., and to obviate the difficulty, the Treasury obtained an order from the Admiralty for two Government vessels to convey the mails. He had recently called for a re. turn of the expense of those vessels, and found that no leas a sum than 1,300/. had been charged. So that this enormous comparative expenditure had been incurred in order to save a paltry 251. He wished to know whether this expense was to be charged to the Post.office or to the Treasury ? The revenue was greatly diminished by the disgraceful manner in which mails were conveyed. Mr. CARDWELL said the Hon. Member had taken him quite by surprise, as the motion was not on the paper. If the Hon. Member would give notice, he would willingly attend to it. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.—NAVY ESTIMATES. i s tt i e r e c o . f N S u A p p pl i y E o ß n s t a h i e d N he av t y ho E ug st h im t i a t te w s On the motion that th e H ouse d o reso l ve i tse lf i nto a C om- Is his duty to call the attention of the House to the great expenditure included in the navy estimates for the last five years, which amounted to the sum of 5,552,710/. Tbis amount referred only to the stores supplied for the purpose of building ships. He wished to have some satisfactory explanation given as to the manner in which the money had been spent, if one could be given ; but he thought he should prove to the House that the money had not been properly expended. He had a statement to make which would show the great necessity that existed to look a little more closely , into the mode in which the public money had been spent. In the year 1841, before the present Ministry came into power, two vessels of very large dimensions were built on a new principle propounded by Sir W. Symonds, the surveyor to the Admiralty. One of these 7essels was called the Queen, and, when finished, was sent out to a station in the Mediterranean. The second was named the Albion. The Queen had been sent out to a foreign station without any trial whatever having been given previously to her sailing, and a large amount had been expended on her construction, which was entirely novel. Other vessels had been subsequently made on a similar principle, and he believed none of these had been subjected to a sufficient trial. He considered that be fore any Government expended so large an amount in building vessels on a new principle, they ought to be subjected to a severe and long trial before others of a similar nature were con structed. He believed the Queen was about to be put to the test, and he wished cordially that the trial might succeed; but even if she did succeed there was little doubt that great altera tions would be required to be made. The same condition of things might almost be applied to the Albion. He did not think that, under existing circumstances, any officer would be able to say whether she was a good ship or a bad ship. It was true she had been tried at two stations, but no officer had as yet expressed his approbation of any of her qualifications. He had shown what was the character of the late Board of Ad.niralty, and he thought it was his duty now to state what was the charac ter of the present. When they came into power, instead of taking warning from the ill-directed experiments of their pre decessors, they followed blindly in their steps. They laid down the Prince of Wales from the plan of Mr. Lang, to afford a com parison w i t h severa l others which were laid down, and were in tended to be b u il t b y Si r W . Symonds, and i t was very l i ke l y that an opportunity wou ld very shortly be afforded of seeing the result of building the m es: princi ples. He was quite aware these PARLIAMENTARY U 'VISIONS. (From the Totes and Proceedings of the house of Commets.) FRIDAY, MAY 23. LADY'S ISLAND AND TACUMSIIIN EMBANKMENT BILL. Motion made, and Question proposed, " That the Bill be now read a second time :"—Amendment proposed, to leave out the word " now," and at the end of the Question to add the words " upon this day six months:"—Question put, " That the word now' stand part of the. Question." The House divided : MAJORITY-AYES, 115. Adare, Viscount Elphinstone, H. Napier, Sir C. Aglionby, H. A. Feiiden, William O'Brien, J. Arkwright, George lielden, John Ord, William Arundel, Earl Forbes, William Oswald, Janice BaiDie, Joseph Forster, Matthew Palmerston, Viscount Baird, William Gisborne, Thomas Fatten, J. W. Baldwin, B. Greene, Thomas Pendarves, E. W. Baring, F. T. Grimsditch, T. Philips, G. R. Barnard, E. G. Grimston, Viscount Plumridge, Captain Barron, Sir 11. W. Hanmer, Sir J. Polhill, Frederick Berkeley, Captain Hatton, Captain Pringle, Alexander Blackstone, W. S. Hayes, Sir E. Rolleston, Colonel Blake, M. J. Hayter, W. G. Rushbrooke, Col. Bowring,:DrA Ileatheoat, John Russell, Lord J. Boyd..Tohn Henley, .1. W. Russell, Lord E. Brocklshurst, J. Henniker, Lord Smith, Abel Brotherion, J. Hindley, Charles Smith, Benjamin Bruges, W. 11. Hodgson, F. Sautes, Joseph Buck, L. W. Hope, Charles Spoolicr, Richard Buller, Sir J. V. Howard, C. W. Statistlehl, W. It. C. Burroughs, 11. N. Howick, Viscount Stuart, Lord J. Busfeild, W. Numphery, Alderman Stuart, W. V. Carew, R. S. Inglis, Sir R. 11. Sinai, Edward Clive, Viscount Johnson, General Tennent, J. E. Codrington, Sir W. Johnstone, Sir J. Turner, Edmund Collett, John Labouchere, henry Vane, Lord 11. Connolly, Colonel Langston, J. 11. Walker,:ltichard Danier;:Colonel Legit, G. C. Walsh, Sir J. B. Dawson, T. V. Lockhart, W. Warburton, 11. Deedes, William Lowther, Sir J. H. WIINVII, J. T. Dennistoun, J. Lygon, General Wilshere, W. Dickinson, F. 11. Mackenzie, W. F. Winnington, Sir T. Diyett, Edward Mackinnon, W. J. Wodelic use, Edmond Douglas, Sir C. Macnamara, Major Wortley, John S. Duncan, Viscount Manners, Lord J. Wrightson, W. B. Duchies, Admiral Marjoribanks, S. Ebringtan, Viscount Marton, George Egerton, Sir P. Masterman, John Ellice, Edward Milnes, R. M. Murphy, F. S Ellis,Wynn Morrison, James Hawes, Benjamin MINORITY-NOES, 17. Archbold, Robert Duncombe, Thomas Martin, T. B. Baillie, 11. J. Esmonde, Sir T. O'Connell, M. J. Bateson, Thomas Etwall, Ralph Osborne, Ralph Blake, Sir V. Ferguson, Sir R. A. Chapman, B. Gore, Robert Clements, Viscount Gregory, W. H. Corbally, Matthew Hamilton, G. A. COURSE OF EXCIIAT Amsterdam CF. 12 8i Ditto, at sight l2 6i Rotterdam 2U. 12 9 Antwerp Hamburgh M.B. 14 0 Altona Paris, 3 days' sight 25 95 Ditto, 3 months 26 15 Marseilles 26 15 Bourdeaux 26 20 Frankfort on Maine 123 Petersburgh, 3 Us.. TELLERS. Redington, T. N. Power, James fGE.—(YESTEHDAY.) Leghorn ....... .. .. 3O 80 Genoa 26 15 Milan .. Naples 39i Palermo, 0z..... 119 Lisbon 524 Oporto . Rio .1 ane':.o Bahia ................. Buenos .4 f New Yoi dys sight Ph i lad? .::: 7 MILLION, I'ER OZ Foreign .1...:3,bar5..E3 17 9 Portuga' Coin 3 17 5 New Doubloons..... 0 0 0 New o:."ars 0 4 9* Silver it , bars 1 4 101 Berlin — Vienna, effee. fl. 3 M lO 4 Trieste, ditto Madrid Cadiz Bilbao •• Barcelona — Seville BANK OF ENGLAND. (From last Night's Gazette.) An Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria, cap. 32, for the IN eek eliding on Saturday, the 17th day of May, 1845. ISSUE DEPARTMENT. Notes issued Other securities... 2,984,900 Gold coin and bul lion 13,237,395 Silver bullion 2,103,030 £29,340,425 M. 31 Dated the 22d day of May, 1 £29,340,425 lARSIIALL, Chief Cashier. 845. BANKING DI .C. Proprietors' capital 14,553,000 Rest Public deposits ( in cluding Exche quer, Savings banks, Commis sioners of National Debt, and divi- PARTMENT. Government secu rities (including Dead Weight Annuity) Other securities 10,656,808 Notes 8,734,045 Gold and silver coin 658,945 dend accounts) 4,357,386 Other deposits 10,276,032 Seven day and other bills X 33,435,595 RSHALL, Chief Cashier. 845. X 33,435,595 M. MA:, Dated the 22d day of May, 1 FRIDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE. WAR OFFICE, MAY 23, 1845,_ Ist Dragoon Guards—Lier;tenant R. 0. Travers to be Captain, by purchase, vice Pipon, who retires ; Cornet T. M. Riddell to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Travers; J. R. S. Sayer, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Riddell, May 23. 15th Light Dragoons—Lieutenant J. Brett, to be Captain, without purchase, vice Chambers, deceased • Cornet J. L. S. Lumsdaine to be Lieutenant, vice Brett, Feb.l 9. Ist or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards—Ensign W. E. H. Vere, from the 49th Foot, to be Ensign and Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Lord Paget, who retires, May 23. 7th Regiment of Foot—Captain V. H. Mairis, from half pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice Brevet Major W. Hope, who exchanges; Lieutenant W. L. Grant to be Captain, by purchase, vice. Mairis, who retires; Ensign the Honourable F. C. G. Fitz Clarence, from 73d Foot, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Grant, May 23, 1845. 12th Foot—T. G. Vereker, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Walpole, promoted in the 77th Foot, May 23. 13th Foot—Lieutenant the Honourable E. J. W. Forester to be Captain, without purchase, vice Sinclair, deceased, May 23. _ 20th Foot—Captain J. Powell, from half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice Murray, appointed to the 38th Foot, May 23. 28th Foot—Ensign J. W. Shelton to be Lieutenant, with out purchase, vice Staveley, who retires; F. B. Drew, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Shelton, May 23. 29th Foot—Lieut. L. Farrington, from 39th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Johnston, who exchanges, Feb. 22. 32d Foot—Lieut. E. W. D. Lowe to be Captain, by pur chase, vice Campbell, who retires ; Ensign T. Maunsell to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Lowe ; Gentleman Cadet R. E. L. 11. Williams, from the Royal Military College, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Maunsell, May 23. 38th Foot—Major J. Campbell, from half-pay Unattached, to be Major, vice H. K. Storks, who exchanges; Captain R. S. Murray, from the 20th Foot, to be Captain, vice D. O'Con nell, who retires on half-pay Unattached, May 23. 39th Foot—Lieut. J. Johnston, from 29th Foot, to be Lieu tenant, vice Farrington, who exchanges, Feb. 22. 40th Foot—Captain 11. R. Seymour, from 63d Foot, to be Captain, vice Oliver, who exchanges, May 23. 41st Foot—B. J. Lennox, Gent. to be Ensign, without pur chase, vice Jackson, deceased, May 23, 1845. 44th Foot—Major the Hon. A. A. Spencer to be Lieute nant-Colonel, without purchase, vice Shelton, deceased ; Capt. A. W. Gray to be Major, vice Spencer; Lieut. W. MacMahon to be Captain, vice Gray; Ensign A. Greene to be Lieute nant, vice MacMahon, May 17, 1845; G. L. Ottley, Gent. to be Ensign, vice Greene, May 23, 1845. 49th Foot—H. Rocke, Gent., to be Ensign by purchase, vice 11. Vere, appointed to the Ist or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards, May 23. 63d Foot—Brevet Major J. B. Oliver, from 40th Foot, to be Captain, vice Seymour, who exchanges, May 23. 69th Foot—Ensign C. W. Parker to be Lieutenant, with out purchase; Sergeant Major D. Dunne to be Ensign, vice Parker; Lieutenant W. J. B. M'Leod Moore to be Adjutant, vice Sutton, appointed to the 4th Dragocn Guards, May 23. 73d Foot—J. W. Ratnsay, Gent. to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Fitz Clarence, promoted in 7th Foot, May 23. 77th Foot—Capt. E. Wolfe, from half. pay 28th Foot, to be Captain, vice Algeo, promoted t • Lieut. E. H. L. Crofton to be Captain, by purchase, vice Wolfe, who retires ; Ensign R. S. Walpole, from 12th Foot, to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Baillie, who retires ; Ensign F. Kennedy to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Crofton ; G. J. Burne, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Kennedy, May 23. 78th Foot—T. Anderson, Gent., to be Ensign, without pur chase, vice Maclain, May 23. 80th Foot—Ensign W. F. A. Colman to be Lieutenant, without purchase, March 10; Sergeant-Major G. Bodle to be Ensign, vice Coleman, May '23 ; Lieut. H. A. Welman to be Adjutant, vice Lightbody, promoted, March 10. 83d Foot—J. S. Molony, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Portal, promoted in the 3d Foot, May 23. 87th Foot—Second Lieutenant J. Doherty to be First Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Holmes, who retires; Arthur Megan, Gent., to be Second Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Doherty, May 23. Ist West India Regiment—R. B. Wigstrom, Gent., to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Machardy. deceased, May 23. BREVET.—Captain E. Wolfe, of 77th Foot, to be Major in the Army, Jan. 10, 1827 ; Captain V. 11. Mains, of 7th Foot, to be Major in the Army, Nov. 23, 1841. HOSPITAL. STAFF.—Assistant-Surgeon R. J. O'Flaherty, from 83d Foot, to be Staff-Surgeon of the Second Class, vice A. Smith, M.D., deceased, May 23. MEMORANDUM.—The date of the appointment of Lieut. H. T. Walker, to be Adjutant of 25th Foot, is 15th December, 1843, and not 23d February, 1844. Lieutenant E. U. Coxen, of 60th Foot, has been superseded, being absent without leave. The Christian names of Ensign Dallas, of 46th Foot, are George Frederick. Erratum in the Gazette of the 16th instant. Commission by the Lord •Lieutenant of Durham.—For " Frederick Milbank, Esq.," to be Deputy-Lieutenant, May 3, Read, " Frederick Acklom Milbank, Esq.," &c. Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Renfrewshire. The Right Hon. - Charles Lord Blantyre, A. Campbell, Esq., to be Deputy-Lieutenant; Colonel D. H. Macdowall, to be ditto; Captain R. J. M. Napier, jun., to be ditto; T. Spier, Esq., to be ditto; A. Gilmour, Esq., to be ditto, May 19. Commission by the Lord •Lieutenant of Somersetshire. West Somerset Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry—Cornet W. A. Sanford to be Lieutenant, vice Blake, promoted, May 20. WHITEHALL, MAv_l7. _ The Lord Chancellor has appointed John Brooking, of Dartmouth, in the county of Devon, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. DECLARATION OF INSOLVENCY. Richard Evans, tallow chandler, Broseley, Shropshire. BANKRUPTS. Robert Kimble, boot maker, Great Marylebone-street, May 30, at half-past one, and July 4, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Strick, Doughty-street, Bedford-row. Alexander Macdonald, merchant, Leadenhall-street, June 4 and July 11, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Fol lett, official assignee, Sambrook-court, Basinghall -street ; Keddell and Co., Lime -street. John White, currier, Warminster, Wiltshire, June 3, at two, and July 11, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Johnson, official assignee, Basinghall-street; Galsworthy and Nichols, Cook's -court, Carey -street. John Feaviour, hotel keeper, Liverpool, May 29, at two, and June 30, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Tur quand, official assignee, Old Jewry. chambers; English, Old Jewry. Thomas Sims, licensed victualler, Whitechapel-road, June 3 and 30, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Tur quand, official assignee, Old Jewry-chambers; Wire and Child, St. Swithin's-lane. John Canu, bricklayer, Woolwich, J u ne 3 and 30, at half pasteleven,Eat the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official .-..-.-----.--------"- . f assignee, Coleman-street; Bowe rs and Co., Chancel -W/43' Colquhoun Woolwich. t, I lk Thomas ' Wood, wine merchant, Little Queen-site,e_x.,,lst born, June 10, at half-past twelve, and July 4, at c nl".4 eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. GrOOM, offi Ili . ' l l - 0 1, nee, Abchurch-lane • Collins and Rigley, Bridge-street, Blackfriars. shire'• Jilsi Thomas Harris, currier, Newton, Montgomer3, „,ii 3 and 27, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court. .9,10 Bedford fi, official assignee, Liverpool ; Gregory and Co., London ; Rogerson and Radcliffe, Liverpool. au dJoil Dyer Berry Smith, merchant, Liverpool, June 4,_.6000 8, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. !), 0 3 ; (1 ,06 official assignee, Liverpool ; Parkes and Co., Be al London; Greatlev, Liverpool. ofißiciicaCrescent V William Lowe, ivory turner, Bristol. Juno 9, at lial o i l: l i tardll eleven, and July 4, at the Bristol District Court. ) , r r n e alpi t, London; Haberfield, Bristol. ters ilii* assignee,l3ristol; Makinson and Sanders, June 10, at half-paat twelve, and July 5, at twelve%D. Or 13irmingharn District Court. Christie, official aasiqes7, innkeeper, Evesham, Wor e° it tloi mingharn ; Eades, Evesham ; Motteram and line w mingham. Wr 0 10 %1; or n i Henry Priddey, upholsterer, Droitwich, June 5 and July 2, at eleven, at the Birrninglialli.l,oo Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Iliriningl?1;101,1;r and Co., Bedford-row, London ; Motteram and M e dO mingham: r 0 signee " Leeds John Barker, maltster, Gavle% Yorkshire, , li lle ffi t isi f at elevn at the Leeds Disiricl Court. Fearue, 0 . floi' chin.son, Barnard Castle • CSourtenay, Leeds- . plece li 'm 1 John Thackrey, dyer, 'Leeds, June 5 and 26, a' ae " , V . .' ; Spiller Grav's In London, 0 the Leeds District Cond. Freeman, official assig a do ; Dg" Milton and Nealor, Southampton- buildings, Ji nn 1 ring and Co., Leeds. PRICE OF SUGAR. for IV a ar, 'lt weekending, May 20, 1845, is 30s. 10# I. The Average Price of Brown or 111 u coved oil % clO of the Duties of Customs paid or payable thereon o "" ortation ther.3of into Great Britain [Dividends &c., in our aext.] ---L---- • r e P . , LAW INTELLIGE•N,,--0 HOUSE OF LORDS, Their Lordships sat to -day at ten o'clock.• i'.,,,, e r dColi l sent were the Lord Chancellor, Lord 13roughtull,Py ham, and Lord Campbell. 11:10' 100 THE DUKE OF BEAUFORT r• • 5 caSer wheir Th • en - Lordships gave judgment to -day in per cae ,e thl,.. ce. t.. ii ) our readers will recollect was argued so metime .,. 7b e iert it Lordships affirmed the judgment of the C °l. " - costs. 19j CAMPBELL 2'. CAMPBELL. cooludelei;t. T i i r le arguments in this part-heard case wl e t - r iaal a thei r Lordships postponed their .griT 4 CCIP THE LATE DREADFUL ;,.-- AT Y A It/lOUTP.'T cu i• ' r POg • be THE ENGINEER'S 11, -" : bo dies of i icr, ft YARMOUTIT, THURSDAY.-The inquest on tii. rder tbs! rocs 0 t:rers was adjourned about a fortnight since, in ° th e assn i . ,.dtp B 'on might be made to the Secretary of State for eis terinets a m proper r . va, l verdict civilc t a s engineer,to thecau f s r e em o f some eminent civil engineer who should insPe et ode t_ a l iel 0 0 ! suspension-bridge, and report thereon, in orde r t°g o n l'u l " - s me due inquiries. Lothendaoccui,de:ll.°°' 'l'd fli t IV .10 11 011, he V ° Yesterday the adjourned inquest was held at t 0 ore ci r. mayor and nearly all the magistrates of the l'in r° l o 3iti' die 'of° with many other gentlemen interested iu t h ,,,, e 1- 4 11 - I _,., Evans appeared for the proprietors of the ba d s' . the n having answered to their names, A tbs t a h t e dsel °fr The CORONER in addressing them observ--' Et ..- pose'L mencement of this investigation he had stated that It ". 4 .,, Io' two cases upon which to try the merits of t h ee Who - thstih' e lote , however, from a recent dictum of Baran Aiderthyltd..,ibigligl bt.heeeewnj jury s ar o yk m ehh e a d i a n informality • in • summoned respectmin o n t e dh toe u a wp d o j h o ni u e ih r nt thefrnore r u le : i . wo dal, 1 01. b fo f ." - - 1, it 0 I r cas c e h o a f rl L es ou w is a a rr U ies tti w n a g s , e o a n i e led of ; t h h e e issutffheerewrSe.2o, co t e J O 0,..... . e. 0 0 0! write r roe of narrative first published in the Bury Pest ! i c o . „d one" the witness box and appeared to be a Wi nd :Tad P is ', Se" ' awkward and unenviable position in which P e ' / sto ",,!, des Being „ o f telolt o Being sworn, he said, in answer to question ,10/ clerk, residing in this town. I remember the e - p gpe' tios t e lO May last, I wrote the letter that appeared "- h e d state'..ecit to the late accident. I wrote it in a vet"' - ...r O f been drinking brandy. .de ID tiisl jeD.- NE R-Are the statements you ra - s weer tg The Cono Mr. James Walker was then sworn -14e fi lis Witness-Certainly not. to 4 bor ° of sta d o na te oet , questions by the Coroner, lam a civil engine er ' s :eeli e aces / se, pg Society of Civil Engineers in London. 1 h t. fe e d Oa t " - f ib_ a t e- j that institution for the last ten years. I resis- 04 ,25 P : i D ie7 l : o commencement of the present season. At the htie I cretary of State I came to Yarmouth far the r. fle joa-- to o inquiries as to the causes of the fall of the linirld cbo a was erected over the river Bure, at the north Ow" ,IS V was able to do so, and to come here immediatel;d the briiOs l r The CORONER said, " You, Sir, have ess ° ets tetn e° ol o# , w hish 'tie . i b r b l you are, no doubt, prepared to give your eiv n the pa ,A 0 own way without being interrupted ; sifter that some questions to put to you." Mr. Walker then described the materials ca dee oleo It had been made, the nature of the contract/ v i ! 6 ii i, 11 , 6 been constructed, and the alteration b mode ciel'ln wh, aili t ei been effected. He then referred to the,te WOO ..- Of j dent had occurred, and said, I have onlY * ' e edist e csu• - f or i t conclusion. First, that I consider the ii nw ir weldias 0•01 accident to have been a defect in the joint ,°..., of crop .ettl that first gave way. Secondly , t h a t the quiiiii/to , 10 1 0 the workmanship, so far as I have been able perm the _ j , .he r orr have been defective, and would not bsv e w he d :l t in g of s , - - .,, tbs_j work been properly tested. Third! appears to have been made without -is ght it had to Oro DO” ginal strength of the bridge and th` -el-evil, the at rePt so I therefore acted as an aggravation of the construe ~, ..,1,10104 barely sufficient as the bridge Was at first .rteuourti;i _., posing the quality of the iron to have been goon. _,.., of ef i l, original construction of the bridge the continge 0 l e consistedrecei unequalve d being all on one side does not appear to have be e " sr/o 1 0 ~,t Od e E biel,, 0 If it had I think the link on t , ... - of - leg 0 ev o e tfo ry more as t s h i assistance a n tche aloadn carry. I have only to add, that in t - s inles rQPI I n n f the p P o ooic s t,o l the bridge, in reference to all the documents i n s "i bsil l ",0 1 " fromt wthNoiart.lbs'cauto;e:ec,leconbinttrbeirdeelgfee."Wetrololi:ooo.lll; that has enabled me to come to the conclosh w ools - i 0 0 1 with less loss of time, and with a greater 00 1% per_ . . l l4 o ol s ; racy than might otherwise have been the sa l ' e ,' i ssCs";„ dil add, that the whole weight of this bridge has b rht oc t " e eti 10 " . 4. great accuracy by Mr. Scholes, and petstesl fin O w cli made to the width, the latter being and I dios the l e portant. The whole weight of the bridge. in clod' • l'ill o 7 o l ing chains, before the addition to the Pist ibr i nros li 0 i rei lbe 4 ol ol 3 qrs. '25 lbs. With the addition, the who** . a dditlubt 0 0 ing the rai'way, was 20 tons S cwt. 9 lbs., Sh e ~..i a llygg o o 2 tons 13 cwt. The great evil was, that e gitt.ooo .. of , outside of the suspending chains, and, theref eat or 001 oe? weight of the people at the time of the acou o - ni tie el l , str J o fs chain, without any part of the weight iisi9t,etionsfejaff, north side. I may say, acting under the d ' , ,, e - of . he et." . elf Graham, if you, the Coroner, or any ge tle- ritter t hem' W dto O S ~eOO - I s any questions to put to me, I shall beg - A a ny ti ne CORONER asked tne jury if they ha" - fre - 1 0 Ate. to but no gentleman answered. I the pri mi o° it I t s P• Evans, on behalf of the proprietors 0. _,, s ttea o f so put some questions, and called Mr. Well'e'.. 00,, p ot ' terms of the contract, with a view to elicito.4 Woe' a s contract had been strictly fulfilled th acier• - • he d %et occurred.P er° tbe v i; s said ifs ftli P 'l,o ,4 ,o Mr. Walker, in answer to questions, s t . t he _.j. ..,eotly placed to watch the welding of every lin it G peol g ';,.pu, quality of part of the iron would have been th at le", IP o eg to the contract generally, he did not think e.. .met s of or had been taken. He would have given the ,, "; sush le tbeo, e the power of having the iron properly te,teUwaa dee pit e t lo 06 11 0 might think fit. He did not find that this survey ~ tee d to the ti P .O ,OO e h 4 ib. tracts. A certain power was given way that the contractor would resist the e ec t. ,teri s „ fir iron, without a clause in the contract to that; le d w t ; bp& After some questions put by the ital , utt ed fe r p s epe et rol Court was cleared, and the jury hav in g_f ( lee ' es' ed ,„,%- 10 ...1 0111' et turned the following verdict :-" That i"` ospe nw - 01101 0 10 1- came to her death by the failing of th e / that the dl of f r o, the river Bure, on the dimmed of May lo t, an . ‘ . at t h e. 00 budge was attributable iately to tu c i to the , t e e es welding of the bar that first gave waY ' in a f " rior t ° 51 0°' of the iron and workmanship, being -e that - 1 ovid ed 0 of the original contract, which t_ ...„........... ::: . 1 . 1...)..........,.... ,gl3l,Aii the best quality." .- fey- 1/5 _------ .4 A d ,A, -.--- -- --- - ~ .„ 7 - r e AV ACT,; O . O h . Ile r .i [ADVERTISEMENT.] --B01.,.•-- • t.. - • 11.- a r ' fri rig 13% tell" 4 GREASE.-When the hair is be e() ; 1 ha ° FP - f besi des 5 , . 0 ~ 1 off, the only effectual remedy', i ar tice" r oa 0 is the use of the two above-narne",,,toso h46.00,10(0° ternately-the botanic water to thecleanser's be ar's l i P l irea ..o oo2 scurf sand as a stimulant, and a was r e prn gl ti , nourisher. If any further evidencatiag san d efts 0 11 1 V 03 virtues of bear's grease for ion he qu o j ort ll _, 0 the hair, Mr. Catlin's account of t il e o f til° iln it tr r ,, the length of hair obtainesl by s opi t wise r ; orss3 0" rican Indians, would be a Silili ciQ s n t reet W h a t °P o e r e Sons, 119 and 120, Bishopsgate-,hi, ;00 1l u blic ode s , doted the use of bear's grease ' m en d the P o ok Ai tog.ir fat noneill the animals, recut: o na ell r ye l ilr chase other but with tile° " H ebei t 0 1. 6a r recl O l d printed on the pot, or the thane ~ ~,li Is srx spurious article. All vegetable or _ 0 14 „pill are worse than useless. li Oa S, , s' S II3I j:0 i Or ig t• ,•1 4 iv „g. MR. D'lsß A ELI'S NEW W .08 " .. - 1 , Oil: Olt" g 1,5 Two NATIONS.”--" If Coning, jpi r d otor e o f th e Post. "be the most brilliant of i',i, an,fier,. ot Atrin' .d e d r w - c ° assuredly ' Sybil' is the most p , dive d goo to ci The Two Nations represent the r eser p a to 0?,,, the °PP • pre s '4 5 0 PP State-capital and labour- ~,r oi t ~t o fe pressed. In ' Sybil,' Mr. I ) ' - f_ , the r„,,iilltrP.o I public eye, vividly but veraciou lY s of this l' . . ial l 7 4ti lev e condition of the workinn. cless,e dO , the !!,,d ep Ol t lays bare the wide• spread social evcreated„ePtiotiS•reooi, tional grievance,, that have been sa w Pa OP dig / f oc ce , t 3 iv _ow 0 on the county by a rule 0 rt , tu 0, sr - I , p oi work before us bears in every i p is °rig,' ire, ° I bit o r , Mr. D'lsraeli's better genitv ; bu t it l is a i l idl ig a nd P a d eloquent, terse, and, passione tn l i oty, in vo lts %be / so, from Mr. D'lsraeli's w orsen . c 1 ..,__ n or 0 ,.i hess-not but that there are lite-lin,,ral, i the orig .. ,z,...„ sonal sketches of public rnen , __,------ ph ° be easily guessed. -....---_-2- ----- a Ilef' -"----------7-'-Tii-li-i'IIS. le of 0 of* th n lit ice On the 16th inst., at Leiceste r. i „gbte r ,' ~, the 06 Brown, Vicar of St. Mary's, of a „, at i . , A.- b ire,, e r, On te 19th inst., at Tenhi , . '" o f a son. ar sets i re, SO 0 'Wilbraham Falconer, Esq. , D'it a gna, , P es c h, r ovi , On the 20th inst., at lio% „..vonaTecifera to wife of the Rev. Edward Aislabi u" mes-stre et ' O re' On the 20th inst., in Great Ja of a son. nstow- 110 lady of Montague Cooper, Esq. , lace , lila to ter, On the 20th inst., in Motitaagncgighter• DaY s n io lady of H. P. Gipps, Es q . ' of heater lie use 'hter• Or' On the 21st inst., at of , of f rn Esq . ' lady of William 111. Red.e , road, Hoilowa,, ' On the '2lst inst., in Albion-Plo'f Claridge Esq. of a son. prey %ter ---2----2" LimiatlED; j. C . ~ og A Smith Louis a, • o nly loil" On the 12th inst., at St. , isa l - e at. Co Sr' to Jenlinia th, V ot, P o grocer, Cannon- street, f Green" Liettten' to P oel the late S. Hitchcock, Esq., 0 t sselc ' Artill erP i l ie On the 18th inst., at Shelley,_ ~_, _.s„ j 3,3,1., c , • , the Royal ol,l11;;;0,, Gibson", commandint, late VC • L , garet, third daub of the er eils° SO House. jell, iillai - _ gainer TO"' Arolien, Georg e %, - SO ° if On the 15th inst., at i. ton , er Prince of Waldeck and Pry u l Little hnn t for ° On the 19th int., at Beach,!,._roike, R.. ond, 94., tenant Charles Alexander 1 , 111 ', /iant RaYntolgoons,,,',,l of At his residnce, Bath , I)" nt of Lig ht -- 0 11 " - il ib of her Majesty's 13th Regime 0 1r So. -ei ~,r A10 1 " ) oice , ti 1 , La uilelvi ci - i sag teat vw Lo:iewil : frint‘ct and _ t To ... No. 112, Stravd, Prlnt e 2 t i. s ooy, . Strana. in the Precinct 24 , 18 •-' ' liiddlesex, attuclay, Mai zs TELLERS.