The Sun. — London, England, 1803-05-24 00:00:00

P t 11 h .0, , , • --- --••••• • •-.1 ~,,,,,,, 9I allaild• IVl,lllit, 11C 1411.111:6'llt,. j ooght t o rema i n i n perpiruitv to this Country, and to ht garrisoned for .ever l'iY British .Troops; 'there cclikl-be. nit ProteCtion for ,Malta equal't'a the pro.' teelioq of Great Britain. : - - . The bake of ' RICIIMOND observed, that it seethed it) hini,enbe 'a 'War 'undertaken' lot tife . sake . of the Islanchilanioedosa. - - I ' :..- 77 ) , :' Alar ? ' uis of L'ANS:001, 1 111E Said,' that the presela ! , e'njeC" 3 / 4 in)tuved a variety' of considcra. tinny, which Pressed tipnn their'r.ordhips' atten tion. Ile' shoirld' Congne himself,; in the ' pre sent instance, to,the bcclaration of War, , and he corife-, e d tii;it he did I'Ot see, vet y clearly, i • • the grainid fir War. It' hid "been said; that the keporr of Sebasrialli, Was 'a Principal ,*objeEt! •of c°l ßP' 4 int , bur i'r was Will.•knoWn that it-'Was the custom of evert. country to ccilled'informatiOn with resPeO•to colimizmiont- however remote it' Knight be fr(,n) any presetii purrise ;; it was well known, hint it Was pecuinirly the habit 'of Frantd at every_ reriod-; this therAitre was no , sufficient cause for War, ' Wit ii `respect t(s',l3:)naparte be' was' very fir . from. apnyvlng of . his character or hil e.,0408., the itifluerice' o f . which.was felt so strongly i'i: 11-. lope, and by Meansrif which scarcely any man could' call his ow n secure, but at the same time it was.a , matter of grave and serious consideration how far ' thi s tray a ground for War to this country. As to 1\14 11:1; he did not think: (lilt Island of sii much im. r l trtance as : some Noble . Lords .liad supposed ; it was [ et four ()iiiVe years since that Malta was ()tiered to Oils ,Connery 1,;) , the Grand Master, and de- ' f. 'dined. fle ( lid li t in..)!n to say . at the silme tithe that Malta was °lmo iinp()rtatice, fia ' unquvst ion , ably it w. • ; bur When it .gas considered chat we tore in . possessioo of Why diatild we make War ' , . upon accountof that Island, (vheii We might retain possessicin• of it by means of ne t iotiation ? ' lie ' thought that ; some means might' be 'fount ( . .t,o,kcep op en a door f )r - negot i :i c i on ;- il`War Must'tql:ll)llece tlr'k)ue would 'no doubt be as it oilitlV't . t) lie ? ,.Uc.. [ cessTo 'to 'fhT3'' C.,untry, `and favourable to - owed l it i f i ler)%; lutt there was, still'a'hope that a s grie- Tritit-Fe4 i tni g l: t be"Wresst'..d,':ind . i'l .o 'ili.Ould ),'L.'r.bi..in. htir,cl I tti .a t in i 'il4-' • cit re of flie4trier:• in co n it i sl i ; ninch ifA;st in cotirrquiv,,;e 44".,nt,,it " .. 15kifyil l y . tit that ife'lfy..,t'ich uti , - , ,t haielicei;.'eipp ;;f0 „I, i'elible 'legottaii'on. • l'i velAidi-Allt-Wi 4 MO M& iit'it,,t i ta . 4. aro*.p,it) g „ I 'i g t i ci l e,i,t i tt o r lf r 4 t x tg r i s • t o t )l, a,• that -it itti c ?Ylti , 0 t t , C . ). l',iksplift*....vf.t; : 4e testa War. ~,I.hili hi• thldtkOLK aservetl, that the Ai r l- I •....• ~ ,t . . 4 , .-1 .r. •, . •,- • r . - iftCte i o ,l Me 44444 .01 i-Votet , s respettolg Nl.ll to sii T. 4- i '•-• Tqfirx , iild . ti t it L1 . ,.,:a lei.cwiel 1. eri -A1 i. !,9:15; , ) ,';',st!o• L n• ~,ir! ' .'. . ','-,,, . .. .....;' , .-, , ,,-,..i. f. depu're,A.lpsi,,,r t u,tnt r itte oi,syssta, and ~...). r4itiitVsNlwil u o ,f,iii. Couoirilv and pa ace; as ,i'Pl)i)ltig iii ..th, , ii t ityiii,it . perioti,'. , ne'qi , not have f - - , }tt 4) 4 r)tch a ..3r4 A 4, ' I P',' i 'T -Ck t i a i f gi 11 i'; ' 't ..-- '' - ' n . . "e'-' to tit 4'94 ati . ,an iiitg'acknowie i t - iket.illieMalta 111,,f , : ri , 1 ; 1 Il i l i t it l i; t1 0 .3 1 ,1 1 1 1 - q .‘ c k i u i pt,i'y ..ti r i , * * pAftelii , ip i n . in t. Ittrinpjlyt, 0 3 , 1ke.. 1 _ . 11,r0j05„9i . Mu] ittp'l' . `,,1,; Ite 1 PiniteetEit 156ssessinii ft, toi years, ai /tte,t,i4 u t I TAVOA Risiflo/ 4 .'"pCo ) , fT e ll!! 1 , 1) .%) 1 W w.4 01 .1 176 .,1 161 • 0, rl; . :,4 l 4Ryop,tio : , IL . 4 ,v rent) , "of AtN . tis, li'F t o, ,3 . l„tliink_A f li k :ulaAli the circumstacis'of ',11 . 14. moment, Witiii‘sters could Rave load: a better , piio 46 ' 4-411e..y .did- II ws, were ...acithilty_AOtii s fAi% ' .._VV - at,••,.the First Cons,ulaol France would not ll' 'Orl•Ertgliilimap .: who„wouid nnt.ssant 4is • Rrourrd ;ind ti - gtte - for -Isis' security. At ~the.tiallle ' • . i ttilt . tharlTV"-gxve-- -his-:-assent—to the • Atltlress, ' le CYO9 , n ssmid .expressing his expe4iation that in op/niog., would . be. still left fprPeaie, aritk u ltis hope that His-tYlwjc.Sly would he-graciously . 1 , 1440 d, . . i to avail himself of every - opportunity f or Nego, , • tiat ion which was OTlSiStelit With" the honour of Ali Country. .:. - ' ' ... . . Lord Metvit.te, is; explanation s observed, that , 6 had clistirittly stated, that the Article of the Tre a ty of Amiens which related to AiLtita, was tenderest incapable of execution. . The Duke ofNoTtFoLx explained. Lord \ X 1 NG - sa i d, he thought, 'there were great objetftions,, in many points ) to the Andress, .. which ' went 'to pledge the,JiMite to War. It Intrst 41* obvious -Ow- this, Country., so much of *fie territories were scattered 'abroad, could "': *c.c little or lit) impression upon France ; con. fkiling", :is it did, of vile solid and compatt mass. 41e ,cui!sidered. the Peace of Amieos as illi OXperi., • merit fur the purpose of temporizing, and he wished that'that experiment' had been persev-esed in f . tir . a, ( unhet- period, T h e, Qnestipn tespening - Maita' ' w ati•nor-a-stiflicient groUnd fur War. _...174,..rr.ne will of the Wir was is question of prudence.; r and when lie considered the state 'of our Finances, he did not think, cha t • t h e renewal o f it was Otilledi ki*.the present moment, ,Ile c •oclutled 'by moving an .arendine nt to t h e A:liiress,,the objee t of whirl Was, " To assure His isdajesty, that the' House woulit Support His Majesty. in ...every'just arrangement. which His Majesty might...be graciously' plea,ed to make, for -the prksetvot tun iof Peace." ' Lord 4LL-EN,44,bu.; If rx i irek,e c l his 4tll . l)ris at the .amendmenc•ln'uvt & by ,the NrOfe Lord, at a period when unanimily was so desirable :,:).d so ptremptorily called ; for. Was i t,.. he sait, .1. , be asked, after , the accumulation of insults and injuries hCapCdfopon thiS cumitry by France, what we went to ‘Val , fur ? He wBUld . :intiWer, that ,we went to . War stir the rfpartetion of 4tll our wrongs.'. It had bten:pid, b .4 .N,A)ie Duke (t ire Duke of Richmond) that- we; went to War : fOr.:.the Island of Larnpedosa, lir cl - .9tied- it'; - that-w-as, it- i - true,. inclutted-in- the !n't PtoPosition - iiii4e:for'ihe secitrity of . IVIal to.' to this CountrY, bui-we n tit: 14 W,,q . ,1,)r the: mutt important stake„ _our Cnistit utional libel..ties ) our IndependanVe - add' ot'r Cotrimerce... The question w al i t whether We, 'were to coyly our civil liberty and out right of •legisliteing for oursel've's, fir Whe ther, for the firs.' time, we were-to be diCiated to by any fore,tgn power ; 'whether' a' legitimata Sov e reign Oran usurper, Whether' tile 'Would so i render thellilT:4l toafOr4ign foe 411 d with ii our dearest r ights.iinair , st vaiOble privileges ; if.nor, War must be the conse. gliencq. licitirc i .littvereil, they ad vised 'a ilieoo - re which would so InAterillly aifettt the interests , tif So ciety, let them consider the justice ()lir. tie agreed tha t the y Were deeply responsible to the Council. for the vo t e which they should that night give upon the Important ciurstion which was !their before then. Bot' there were considerations. amply and abundantly sufficient not - only to justify their vote in (iiVOUI of ,Hostilities against France, but to render:that vote_ . a 'natter ofn-e9saiil; lf tli y looked to ;he TreltY , , i: ~ry .la ;r !a 7, 1. 71 i c e F I ' . ~':~ r. i ~:? 4 - 1111.k1.4W • • • ••• .•, • • 'till tr :iP li, whieVectite'LT int lie xstinut 01.,Millta'tvas tenderen the4,tvf,F; l eaiice eiat i rely neanahle of exectition;:N:4 sidat ra,.!led . Whicli were ap l iro... prlatedrdt)ie:stiPport 'and maintenance of the Order; but the guarantees' were detail:3, except' It the CaSc,6r -Row thei, w s that articleal the Treaty ' to ho executed Same new art'angementi becatne'ilt.. solutely anti t of course be6ime a p; in. 4ubjee.t ncgotiati,m, Ot , uld not, holV - ever,,'go the length . of the NObleViseount, (Lord' Melville,) thaf the Island of IVLdta,Should remain' • to,us in perpetnitY , - rind"that therefore the article aught not to be fulfilled in any resped, He thought on the eontrary, that according to the acknOWledged 4w of ,Nations, where au Article of, a, Treaty could. not,' in . conseqti , 2:;ce cf subsequent Circuit:* stances be. eXecuted, (11;:t an arrangement should be Made tdbring the objt'd as nearly as possible hack tó - ' the brigthal intention, We never had been in a6se where .the Snvrender of Malta could be justly de . mantled -of •tis, arid - no one Could . contend' that tk Oughi, under,the circumstances of the case in which We were placed, to have given it up. With respect to the 41edion of a Grand Master, lie thUnglit it would have been better for the PoPe to have an:', pointed one out of names presented to him by ROSSia, ihan treat the Knights should 'elekotie themielve . s. If they looked to : the .two - principal pe'riodi into which the subject involved. in the Papers upon . the Table might he divided, there was on! ed ainple grouttdfor War, tsnd fully Stifficient cause for hosti. lilies againstl s ta'nce. IC they koketl to the periud of the aoth of August, fued matt:r which in volved the nerve and the. feelings of the while tryoyljjeitinvolved thatpalladiuin of our Liberty,the Freedom of the Press,„arid,which involved the con sideration of our , dearest Rights and Constitution:Ll jr'was impossible for" any man to deny, - at the syncn tithe, that'net Man could have diScussed with more-temper, moderation, anti fairness, the• important subject then yresented to his nfitice,'or to. have pursued a better' course. upon the occasion, .than the. Noble Secretary., of State to tVlipJe 'tell the ardiviusta,k of that Negotiation. He trust. - 11;Wever, that . 17wri s ifsr'.ihe liCentibusiS rf !the Press;, - was propetlit tiAtrAiled,e' , Conntry ti ever be cal u Fiend c just Liberty of the Press, that 'that: Press would never be sulijed. to a 'Fitieign iniprimatur, that our Constitutional Liberty would never be visa. lasted, nor the stream r of-justi4 diverted from its course at - the instance of a Fot-eignFo;,. . they •ekamined thePaperilaiellthe'Oill bf rebttini y, they found the views' of the FroitelfGi).Vitintn , tit sufticiently.slevelonedlo ; the ad of :who, it was evident, was cloathed in the gattli of:tulicitity., Wait' prudent ot e ltsiifiA')l to give isp - Atha, at: thiitVeritjti, , AVhen they • -, a , ;tv the .Sitear m theithands. - of the -Enemy 3 When. chat an Arrey ze,ooo men 4 ,slestialedfor uric purpase, , was easily : convertible to anoilwr, was that the period to give. up Malta I If the First Con s ul could maker lift! oP the exliression resisecting.that Araty,• in the Manner it , was fair to.s,oppote,that some prudential reasons restOined him front actually converting the that Army tri another puri'arse; and the lair in 'Wage was, - t hat- he , w codifteet :lac destination:a- any luther force to purposes is ju. riot's: to this •C9untry, it . . not restrained by si. milat reasons. With . respea to ihe' Article re„ lative to Malta, itivas'tivitient we could• not per, form • i and. more 41a t ticularly Au a 3' Era nee luid put herself in a-situation of against us, In S itzerland, which had 'been already alluded ro, had there not been, on the pari'bf France, a 'aired violation- of the , Treaty a viola. !...t ion of .the most solemn -comp4,l4.4osptogement, When all the hostile _act, eonmutted by, France • Stared them in the face, was it to be asked; why go •ii;) War'? He answered-again, we went to Wae far all our w.robr,. with ail these aft 3 OE violence and aggression, sy went to War with, justice on our side, and with every consideration in ot:r favour, that epoiti' induce n: to commence host ilit i,ys against a perfidious' and ftithless toe. As to--what with tes:pe4: ca the ,propos . ition . made on our pat. fur, the retention of ',Malta far ten yeasts, and at the , end of "th•at:period, as it had beta, said, to deliver it up, he considered 'that such an- wed/iv:went, °ale& on our. part, was- sufficient, evidence of our sineete desire of Peace, which would have bean the result ;•of that arrangement having lieen agreed to, *hilst it Was.an our part per fettly . 'etinsistet with views of wand policy. 'Would have-tended, in the. first place to preserve tranquillity, whilst we s!sslui:l hivt" '• the benefit 'of those chances which eve had a , right to calculate Upon 'a'slikelY rd happen the- Meantime,: and which Might have materially changed the faceol,,affairs., • ilri,theconrse:.of 'that time, :the calamity : which now overspread the Continent Might be reintiVed, the States of Europe might perceive in a , clear , tight their true and essential interests, their tonp . and temper might, be materially altered,, and eircumstancesi might our to render the lace of affairs 'upon the Continent wholly different. Upon • these chances we had a right to ealeithtte, 'iced ,in 'this point of view the proposed aytangement-wis perfectly consistent ,with justice and sound policy, sinceAt would have se dared tranquillity for the present . , whilst it would given u sufficient time -forall-thostreltanct!al-to operate in our favour. The present Way , was the res i t* of. the njories accumulated upon this Country by France. 7`lleinlitiitted that the War, in it's con.- : setiOeitces, mghtteverttually- oppress private-faini . , lies, . J i t id,,thoeharetpothirit kit- a .deep sense - of the injuries, which this Country had suffered from, our Enemies, and'of the justice :of the 'cause in which we were ("411e - it=upon to- engage, woultthave induced hientet..assent to the present; Address. Though rite present was a crisis, of some peril, yet there was no cause for deSpondency, thongh we had not amongst us . ' the Heroes of' Cressy or. of - Agineourtyet, we had living amongst. us, the .Heroel of-Acre,: of the Nile, of St. Vincent, and Campeidown, who were fully equal to .the task of diredting the energies of the Country, and pursuing to a successful termina tion, the contest in which We-were engaged.. - trusted, that congeni4 spirit Would produce conge, 1641 effect, both in our -Naval -arid ;Military : Ser. ali6, and that all petty' 'and p'altry Considerations would be.mergeit in. the graild and essential' OIS of the British. Empire. • - , _ .Tht said be conceived- : War in, a Nition; whether it was viewed with reference . tete . the difficulties which it hrotight : upon Gneerninent,. Of upon the mas, of the propre ; it_ was therefore not to !it , e:ehrned as matter delinquency neon the, Noh!e lend that he had moved the Atnendutent now' he'fer'e their Lordships'; although he Could. not vote fer it, yet hethotight this observation was no more than was (rue, to the. Noble - letird,", -Their Lordships: were. 'not the teat sufferers by War ; it was en evil which could not reach them Until it catoe - to the grist extremity ; it was the poor and the•distressed alone on - whom its evils fell, and it 'was therefore bent on their Lordships to ke*e; it 'off as, ninth as possible from those who had nut the means' of de. fending themselves, and therefore, - although he could: not :vote for" the AmendMent now proposed, and luiped his Nobje Fyiend would not press it, yet he 'approved highly Of the seneiinents of humanity which didated that Amendment. He' hoped.that it would not he pressed to adivision, because he would not have it utillerstothl that there was'any diversity Of : opinion in that House on the present tnost momentous sutjed. His Lordship . then proceeded to observe on some of the topics which hid been brought forward by ' the Noble and Learned LordVll6' lied preceded him in this Debate' (Lard ELLlNtiOltbi.lect), and laid, there were some things c(nnplained.''of by France,. that were subjetle of grave and learnable complaint . , Some things had. occurred in this Country which gave reasonable grounds of offence to France. • Pokicmion tor n : phce, 'contaioing 'Offensiye.telleC. Lions on the Covet-no:en t et . Fran: : was a Pub., lication which was not intended for the iostruaion of the, PNyle of this Coeetry ; but it was, a Paper publish:it here in the French langnege, containing nut a:Alive - els or titiqpirion Wit (vett and avowed 'hostility of prieciple agehne France . rite Govern. inept Of Which was then In timity with ; a nein died' been pettnitte3 by as hazer.l the confirtmce . of our :unity with France, for the taste perpe;e 01 havirighin epportnnity to gratify it Partyinflnence in his ow ti Ceiwury, and all ;his when we: had tl:e . potter of sending hini,titit of the Country, • Ktving said this, his Lordship Observed, merely. by the , wev, he shoehl not; procTed'to the . pOint for which Ise row. lie'should now proceed to touch on those - points which had been sit ably and eloquently hid . belOre the flOuse by tsVo illnstrious Peinees tit:night, 'Who had called their : Lerehhips' attention to the: 'situation of this Cottetry. o(.e of the4e. iqustrious - Personage :Sled stated, that the qee,,tion now bethre :the iloiee! was nett .veitinn of roere expediency, tat a gnesti ,, o of light eh:lt:ern; hem that it, celled upOn The lleihe to decide vs he the'e British `pit it hits Was 10 hr !Airrred ) to temaiees' it h, to ha field in deipicabi: 'srhy..!‘.'ience 'tit France ; that wa the point to bihh,:ei.l - ,!d 1. i nieht ; but. their Lerthihips oight to 4att.rtaio 'hat They meant to 2fedge theisseh;eS 16 by theirMilresi, A Nehie 'Viscount had stated. very, ably the valite .0f Malta to and the' impe,ibility of our fnl, filling that' part of the Treaty of Amiens 'WhiCh j. related` to Oita suhjen; under the cirettaiStences which' had occurred 'hut his LOrtiship said he' was so let -front thinking that Malta '!done was . the came' of, the pre.enr War, th;tt' he theueeht if France n•tw'agreed to give it up to us; ihai would, fall infinitely short of what we have new an ah» solute right, to demand. The injuries .eve hitel re_ theirsults which had been offered to us, were inch its to skew on the part ,of Franc'e, an corrigible dirpesition towards - us, and which in couriter4,, its malice, required a s ecuri t y i n . finitely larger • titen the ;.eision, of .Nlal / 3 ; if credit was due, as it certainly was, to • tion ire Ilk Majesty's Declaration, it was clear that rl W•i• .ohjet:t in order tit go to Egypt, and ft•nn illenee 1 9 ;1;11.;-.1 our Indian poe.iessinns. This cer tainly made ,the matter important ; but there ei err other conSideretions of as great itneortaecee , The sta'te of lidland; of Switzeilatel, of Itaie--tiie.an. nexatien Of Piedmont—nhc po,,se:siotts" of i~ ranee were enormous--they were ,also different in theiy nature frOtft'ours--they,were large, but tt'y were together—their Colonial, Power was only ,inconsi. derable,• ours' the reverse; for our Colcwht pp:ver . was very . gecat, anti our dominitot small. N: . %•:, if we made War, which, by the way, was not now inat ter of option to us, unless` we abjedly s subjeeled, • ourtelves,. wc-should make it with a proper on,hzt. • What was it' that gate the alarm to all Earroee ?. I It was the immense Power of_ France.. Power so large never .Was possessed withont•being abu,eel and so it was, etriployed in woeteling, and ,injnrj,,, and insulting us. was this intOltrOb:e CVO to strip ? What was ,now to l revent the French 'from exten.ling as as 1114 pleaied their do. tniniLin 6cYnnel the Rhioe ? 'flies,: were in utter, for great teth:kttion;. and therelOre if we weiit to War, we should make it our object to afreitt the ,Continental Power of France, and there she Was. ' vulnerable ; there and . there .alone was she properly:, vulnerable, and might be ' made to -sutra for her cortti t 4t, ; and there,, and thee.. alone, were we to for security against further En our tna t ion, we mu t t make this a shirt and a decisive War. The' few. Culenies whieh France ;e l s . sesselt, • took, them, Would t';ot better our state : that might cramp France for a while, for a year or l-wo perhaps, but afterwards we should he in the seine situation as w' are no.w. inc t tacit that five hod not : the mepivi ; that was not frac; hut if we thought so, we had better at 4 ir,ceee,efess it, and soe for mercy : but if we went to V..mr, we 3110111,1 Mike it with vigour; it. bliorlM ti 4 ocr O) . F :A to make a short and a deciSiee War,, for eothh mid be Inilre . tninotei to . us, than 'I prof retied Legall with !deficit of lcur ulill.ion3 : this fear won!,l a ,great chair upon ; 1.11 fet Oi tiLlt W: re to re:tulip as she is iluw, with the lerence We shoUld be in pOssesion of Ati ta, one establishment would not thereby be refinished, nor our means increased, aid it. might be a qustion Whether we could go on with suche a de. fictts sg- that year after year we should pc* in the c9ndiiion, at.ti theTelore we must make this 'a' Short and a decisive , War; for' thes. - e reasons his Lordship said lie wits 'glad to hear the %finds of en illustrious Personage to night tieliver,r3 with 'greet eloquence, and which would have been • followed froM a still higher quarter, if it wera not'fOr fives a delica c y- w hi c h prevented it, Jest it should appear that too '.,tritieh:pcertion was made to infiti. eOCC ttiC sou , up te n vstion wiikh pug!lt to bt • • - 'rEtVas not by the Nitta*'rid* tipsil the table, although they alined:ll)oy shelved it, that' 'the blouse first discovered the situation of thil •Coentry ; he believed there were very few of their teudi;hips that Lacy not long aio been duly impressed with the conduCl and the disposition of France, not only since the Signature of the Treaty of Amiens, but befaire - that period. Hit Lordship said he should not new enter into the question of how far it was wise in Minieters to suffer Prance to gain so mucli . ground, when there was so much necessity of resisting their encroachment, and repelling their - aggression, for that that disposition was manifested as clearly on the day of -the sign:num of the Treaty as It was at this moment._ His, Lordship said he would not now Make a question • of that, for that might he diacusSed hereafter ; the presentaliscussion should be reserved for the question of Pence or War, and he was of opinion it was 'important - to this Country that the two Honses of Parliament should be unanimous. It was of great importance that the Public should rest with confidence on the wisdom of t that House, and that •their Lordships should also Confide in the energy of the People. Whatever difference - of opinion might be entertained on the cooduEt of Government in some parts ofrthese trans. atlions, it was essential that Parliament should be unanimous on the qtiestion . of Peace or War; and it o wes : the duty .of every honest man, who could en. certain but tine wish, and -have Gut one object in .view, to exert himself to the utmost`of his ability to obtain that objert, which was to,make this Coon. try rise triuilphant in the Contest in which we are' now dhout'to be engaged. We possessed resources not only tidequate to this end, but which, it well emplrq . ed; and wisely direCled, would crush our Enemy in the dust ; ohis Would by no means pear extravagant to those Who recolleoed the no.O , vette' of the power of 'the Enemy and the discord. .ant parts of it , and who considered the manner in which we could attack it : these things, duly con. :sidered, gave us, tior indeed a certainty of success,' -for that mid not ' , Tiselly be said of any *future event, but, on the fullest clinaideration he hatt been able to give to this suhjeti he regarded it not only with a hope, but also With a confidence of sig.. nal success,' if the' Force of this Country was wisely - ,entployedo. 4 .we carried on the War for colonial objeats, we might go,on i-mr a while, but we should' ,atiast be obliged to gii.e it ni,l without having gain. !ed' any thing by it ; but their Lordshipi would re. : eolletft that it we now made a bad War, -we should' hove one'consolatioti; , whOt:was this, that we neo. r vor should hive the trouble of.lll,lking anorhrr. Errri SPEIVC.E.Rsaid, he ihouiddistinguishirom. xa s ch other the separate parts of the Totstion now bt fore' their Lerdshilla. • The Main Part of it was' !lei:her-more nor lrss than this, vbetLer-that House' should not giye:tb Majesty the best opiniOn they; were able_to form tit this-moment upon the questien', of Peace 'or' War ? lie agreed that the first objet , to be invited into was whether the War he just or • not. • In considering this pert of the . question, he' was eatticttlerly called upon in make a distinetion' between the civil and the judicial part-of the coo:, a s they appeared on the Papers now beftne Lordships ; a nd I k e confessed it appeared a* him 'to , h e extremely diffioult to separate the conduft of niStert from the considention of the Condition the Country; but after having attended -to the whole of this most' important discussion, he was • • prepared to that, on the justice of this War there 'were the highest and most iatisfatilry , gremnds, Whatever .might have been his opinion ,of.theTreaty of Arniens, yet it being made, and if capabletif execution at' the time, it was made,' it 0 0- g ot 'to have been catried into effea, if nu material' ii:! , :•;Ation tack 'place in the relative condition of either.of the contradirig patties; so that if that had -been really the case, we must hive executed that Treaty ; but the wilt Article, the Noble Earl said,, was such as lie thought never could have . been meted, and ho said 0 at the time when that Sub. jeet wits discussed ; before their Lordships; that ar ticle appeared to hint to be, perfealy imptaarcahle. not -from any thing which had been since done- by the Government' of this Couhtry, but from the nature of r . le Article itself, and also from the con. (lea of the Governatent of France. It would :be qpitr' useless in ifs: to evacuate Malta, with. out any practicability in -"the rest tit th e article. :Besides, the reasons that made the War plat, there were others why it wai politic, and, threfore, he l . tiutd not agree to the Amendment, but should t'Ole 'for, theoriginahAddress. He was of opinion it' w(tnld nor be- wise ih this Country' to continue any longer, its fOrbeorarteito which vie had 'carried to a' great length indeed, anlto go on upou Oar system any Goober, vv&old:be- roitious 4 tw: us. -As to the 'contest in which we' are now tulavoidablyeogazed. (iod grant it in;,tht.be a short one ; yet he had rather caut ion their Lord;hips and the Public against heihg run away ivlth an idea that this will be a.hart War, -becaustOthat might turn Otrt to he' otherwi.e, and !there was no good tO be geioed by erissead t lieg ou r : . ; it was only by looking our situation in the face that we could be .erepared to meet it ; and if we did . properly' look at that situation, it'would rouse - . the -best exertions of the Country., We should look at that sitnthtion in every point of view io whichy it could be honked .at. We must resist our Enemy with energy, and he wished to cal their , attention to the' means and the great resources. of this Country, and to desire . them to exert their constitutional privilege, to see that the best nie was made of these means, other. wise great as' they might_ be, we should be unequal to rite contest. - - The. Earl oP RaSl.l IN aaid, that with all the attention he liatt hezzn able to gke, to the til . ).jet3 now befOre'theit Lnrdihips, he-had formed btit one opinion either On the envie or the ebjea of the War . with France, which 'we were about to enter into.: He agreed with the Noble Visetottit (Melville) that Malta along was of itself a suffi:ciently`adequtte broad cause' for \V.r, to repel the attempt which had been made on us. He thought that this wail of: itself 'sufficient to call on their Lordships to address Hit Majesty,. they, were of opinion it was titne to tid:tt up artn. Wo were not to cast the toad off our shoulders, but 'were to look at it, and fo bear it — w*tett 6rtitt* like men, whose con. stitution and bbit . enablcfa them' to look danger TM in the . faee, and resolve to encounter it witit filth