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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, April 19. Their Lordships met at the usual hour. Several Bills from . the Commons were brought up and read a first time. Petitions against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill were presented by the Earl of Rosebery from Berwick-on- Tweed ; by the Marquis of Normanby from a place in Ireland ; and petitions in favour of the Bill were pre sented by the Earl of Sefton from a congregation in Renshaw-street, Liverpool ; by the Earl of Radnor, the Marquis of Normanby, Lord Sudely, and Lord Beaumont. Lord MONTEAGLE postponed the second reading of the Bill for preventing the forestalling of markets is Ireland till Tuesday next, for the purpose of amending the Bill, so as to apply to Scotland as well as Ireland. Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from several places in Ireland, praying that their Lordships would legalise the Presbyterian marriages. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH presented a petition against the union of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. After a few words from Lord CAMPBELL and the LORD CHANCELLOR, the Dissenters' Chapels Bill was postponed till this day week. Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented a petition praying for the alteration of certain clauses in the Poor-laws. The Bishop of EXETER presented petitions from several parts of the United Kingdom against the Dis senters' Chapels Bill. He said that the petitioners felt confident that the interests of religion were involved in this measure, and prayed their Lordships not to sanction it. This Bill, for the reasons he had stated, would therefore receive his opposition, and he gave his full support to the prayer of the petition. In presenting these petitions he would state to their Lordships that there was an irre gularity with respect to them, inasmuch as they were headed as coming from members of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland. Now, there was no such church either in England or Ireland. Had the petitions come from Scotland, of course he would not have made this observation ; but in England and Ireland no church was recognised except the Church of England, and there was an express canon of the Church against any persons calling themselves the members of any church not the Church of En g land. Lord CAMPBELL wished to know the date of such canon. The Bishop of EXETER was perfectly ready to give the Noble Lord an answer. The canon was established in England in the year 1603, and in Ireland about thirty years later. The Marquis of DOWNSHIRE presented several pe titions in favour of the Bill. PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND.) Lord GOSFORD gave notice that he should, on an early day, call the attention of the House to the subject of public works in Ireland. GWALIOR. The Marquis of NORMANBY gave notice that he should, on Monday, put a question to the Government relative to certain omissions in the papers which had boot laid on their Lordships' table relating to Gwalior. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, April 19. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. Mr. WARD presented ten petitions from certain per. sons connected with the Colchester and Ipswich Rail way, stating that two railway Bills were then before the House, namely, the Eastern Union line, and the Har wich and Colchester line, which had been treated as competinc , lines, and had in consequence been referred to the same Committee. The petitioners prayed that the Colchester and Ipswich Rlilway Bill might be referred to the same Committee, as that was a competing line also. Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET thought it was too late to refer the petitions to the Select Committee. After a short conversation, the petitions were ordered to lie on the table. Sir ANDREW L. HAY presented a petition from Banff, complaining of the laws which regulate prisons. Lord ASHLEY presented several petitions in favour of as Eleven Hours' Factory Bill. M r. CII RISTOPH ER presented petitions from twenty seven parishes in the neighbourhood of Horneastle, in Lincolnshire, in favour of protection to agriculture. Mr. BROADLEY presented similar petitions from Yorkshire. Mr. BECKETT presented a petition from the letter press printers of Leeds, against the Masters and Servants Mr. WILSON PATTEN presented a petition from Stoekdale, against the Small Debts Bill. . . Mr. ROSS presented a petition from a Presbyterian congregation in Scotland, praying that Presbyterian marriages in Ireland might be legalised. Mr. FERRAND presented a - petition, agreed to at a public meeting of nearly 20,000 inhabitants of Bradford. against the Masters and Servants Bill ; also, from Leeds and other places, to the same effect. Sir. G. STRICKLAND presented a petition from the boot and shoemakers of Preston, in Lancashire, against the Masters and Servants Bill. Mr. WARD presented a petition from owners and occupiers of land on the Trent line of railway against the Eastern Union Railway. Mr. JERVIS presented a petition against the Holy head and Chester Railway Bill. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented th'rty-six petitions including petitions from Manchester, Birmingham Bolton, Norwich, Halifax, Nottingham, Rochdale, and Warrington, against the Masters and Servants Bill, which the petitioners considered unconstitutional and degrading to the rights of nations ; also a petition from Charles Price and Henry Thompson (on behalf of the Hon. Member for Warwick), complaining that they had Leen summoned berore the magistrates for the non-pay ment of church-rates, and that one of them, Mr. Creenaway, said the magistrates did not come there to le made fools of, but to enforce the payment of the rates. Mr. DUNCOMBE presented a petition, complaining that in several instances, where paupers had been found dead in bed, no inquest had been - held on them. The Hon. Member moved that the petition be referred to the Select Committee on Medical Relief. SUGAR DUTIES. Mr. M. GIBSON presented a petition against the sugar monopoly. MASTERS AND SERVANTS BILL. Mr. SCOTT presented a petition from Horsham, against the Masters and Servants Bill, stating that, in the opinion of the petitioners, it would give too much power into the hands of magistrates. CORN-LAWS. • Mr. LIDDELL presented a petition from a parish in Durham, from agriculturists farming property rated at 4,600/. a year (the *hole parish being rates' at 6,0000, praying for protection to agriculture. TOBACCO DUTIES. Mr. HUNIE presented eight petitions from North ampton and Willenborough, against the high duties on tobacco and snuff. CHARITABLE PAWN SOCIETIES BILL. Mr. VILLIERS presented a petition from the pawn brokers of Wolverhampton, against the Charitable Pawn Societies Bill. NOTICES OF MOTIONS. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE gave notice that, on Tuesday next, he should move for a return of all moneys paid by the Government on ace3unt of Mr. O'Connell's trial since the close of it. FACTORY LABOUR. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE gave notice; that, on the second railing of the Factories Bill (No. 2), he would :move for a Solcct Committee to consider the limitation.of labour of young persons under ten years of age employed in factories, • NEWSPAPER STAMP RETURNS. • Dr. BOWRING said, as he understood there was some little dissatisfaction with the way in which the •newspaper returns were made out, he thought it fair to give notice that on Tuesday next he should move for the continuation of the return. IRISH JURIES. Mr. F. FRENCH gave notice of a motion for a future day for certain returns of jury lists. - CIVIL. CONTINGENCIES Mr. HUME gave notice of a motion for returns ex planatory of certain items in the Civil. Contingencies. THE RECENT CAPITAL CONVICTION. _ - Mr. BRIGHT said, seeing the Right Hon. Secretary for the Home Department in his place, he wished to call his attention to the recent conviction of a female under very peculiar circumstances et the Central Criminal Court. Ile had no wish whatever to extract any pledge or even a distinct answer from the Right Hon. Gentleman, but merely to call his attention to what struck his (Mr. Bright's) mind as one of the most ex traordinary cases that had ever occurred. It appeared that this poor creature had thrown herself aml her baby into the water, being at the time in circumstances of the utmost destitution. Apparently her intention was to commit suicide, and not to leave her child alive in the world behind her. Her life was preserved but her child perished. The unhappy woman had for her crime been sentenced to death, and one of the newspaper rep orts stated that the judge gave her no hope whatever that mercy might be extended to her. Such a statement required no comment.—(Hear, hear.) Ile repeated, he wished no positive answer from the Eightllon. Gentleman —h e merely wished to be satisfied thathis attentionhad been called to so distresiiing a case. Sir J. GRAHAM said the House would feel that it was not consistent with his duty to enter into a discus sion upon this subject.—(Hear, hear.) In point of fact, however, his attention had not been called to the matter until the present moment. In the very delicate duty which Would devolve upon him (Sir J. Graham), the Hon. Gentleman might rest assured he would do his best to exercise a sound and dispassionate judgment ; but beyond this he could not then say anything, as the House must be aware of the inconvenience attending such discussions.—(Hear, hear.) FACTORIES BILL. Mr. ROEBUCK gave notice that, on the motion that the House do resolve itself into Committee on the Fac tories Bill, he should more that it be an instruction to the Committee that they should not entertain any pro position for limiting the hours of labour of persons above eighteen years of age. EDUCATION IN SCOTLAND. ,111 r. RUTHERFORD moved for the following re turas :—Return of the number and locality of schools in Scotland to which aid has been granted by the Edu cational Committee of the Privy Council ; distinguish ing the schools required by the constitution or title,deeds of the school to be in connection with the Established Church of Scotland ; those required to be in connection with the. National School Society, or the British and Foreign School Society ; and those not required to be in connection with either of those Societies, or with the Established Church of Scotland. Return of the application for aid to the Education Northern Districts School, and the correspondence and communi cations relative to that application between the Educa tional Committee of the Privy Council, or t h e i r secre tary, an 4 the Committee of the Associati on f or t h e erectio9 o?said school, or'their secretary. Return ofany minute o mitintes of the Educational Committee of the , THE STN, LQNDON,__SATILTRDAY E,Vj47,NING-, APRIL 2©, `_lB4&. changes which had taken place in the government of that colony. Lord' STANLEY would have no objection to lay be fore the House such papers as were calculated to throw a light on the transaction to which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had alluded, but he thought it better that they should . wait until all the papers could be laid before them, so that they might consider the transaction as a whole. Mr. ROEBUCK did not want the papers to raise any dispute on the subject, but merely for information. IRISH POOR-LAW COMMISSIONERS. Mr. F. FRENCH, in reference to the postponed reso lutions in the Committee of Supply, wished to know when it was likely that the vote for the salary of the Poor-law Commissioner in Ireland would be proposed, as he intended to oppose it ? Sir G. •CLERK'S answer was inaudible in the gallery. Mr. Blake was a magistrate of the county for 12 years preceding his dismissal. He once more entreated the Government to consider that which he had brought under their notice, with a hope that they would direct the necessary inquiries to be made, and if the facts were such as he represented, that they would no longer conti nue to, retain these gentlemen in the Commission of, the peace.—( Hear, hear.) Lord ELIOT did not complain of the tone or manner of the Hon. - Gentleman, who had just sat down, in bringing forward this motion. The llon. Gentleman was not, however, quite correct in his statement of the facts. There were only seven stipendiary magistrates struck off by the present Government; and there were yet as many stipendiary magistrates in Ireland as there were during the last three years of the late Government. The House should recollect that the stipendiary magistracy were paid out of the Consoli dated Fund, and appointments should not be made un less necessity required them. With regard to. Mr. Brereton, that gentleman had been long a magistrate, and on his appointment had received addresseS from the magistrates of petty sessions with whom he sat, of dif ferent religious and political opinions, and from 106 in habitants of the town of Nenagh, which were couched in terms the most complimentary. One of the ad dresses was signed by two. Peers—Lord Dunally, and Lord Lismore. In fact, up to the time of the occur rence at the Nenagh assizes, mentioned by the Hon. Gentleman, the manner in which Mr. Brereton dis • charged his duty was most satisfactory, as he (Lord Eliot) was informed by men of all parties. The Irish Government was in possession of all the facts regarding the affair at the Nenagh assizes, and the Judge's re marks, and all the papers had been handed over to the Lord Chancellor for his advice.—(Hear, hear.) Re garding Mr. O'Brien, it ought to be remembered that at the time that foolish letter of his, quoted by the Hon. Member, was written, he was only 24 years of age. He was a gentleman of property and education. He certainly had been at one time a most ardent Repealer, being a member of the National Repeal As sociation, but seeing the manner in which that body was soliciting foreign assistance and obtaining money from America and other places, he began to suspect their design, and finally resigned and denounced Mr. O'Con nell. lie wrote a letter to Mr. Sharman Crawford, stating to him that his (Mr. O'Brien's) firm conviction was, that a repeal of the union was impracticable. It was not until NoveMber, in the year 1843, that Mr. O'Brien was recommended to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland as a fit person to be appointed as a stipendiary magistrate. That recommendation was made by persons who were well acquainted with Mr. O'Brien's integrity and high honour, and upon that recommendation he was appointed a stipendiary magistrate. His con tinuance in that office would, of course, : depend en tirely upon his own conduct. If a precedent were wanting of a person being appointed to office who had severed himself from the ranks of repeal. he (Lord Eliot) need only point to the case of Mr. Fitzsimrnond, which was a perfectly similar case to that of Mr. O'Brien. He believed that Mr. O'Brien was a person of high honour and character, and every way calculated for the situation to which he h a d been appointed. Captain BERNAL was willing-to admit that the ex planation of the Noble Lord, as far as it went, was satisfactory. He knew, however, that Mr. Brereton was looked upon in Ireland as a partisan, and therefore his appointment had been looked at with suspicion. Mr. O'Brien's appointment, however, was still more unsatis factcry to the people of Ireland than even that of Mr. Brereton. The Noble Lord said that it was four years ago since Mr. O'Brien wrote such violent letters re specting repeal, but the Noble Lord seemed to forget that although Mr. O'Brien had arrived at the mature age of twenty-eight, lie still wrote violent letters. But these letters were different to those of four years ago—they were now on the other side of the question.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) When Mr. O'Connell was Lord Mayor of Dublin, Mr. O'Brien was summoned before that Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman because ho had not the wherewithal to pay his servant. Mr. O'Brien disputed the jurisdiction of the Court, as he lived in Kerry, but notwithstanding this the Lord Mayor de cided against him. From that time the eyes of Mr. O'Brien became more open with respect to the question of repeal, and he then all at once found out that he ought to write as much against repeal as he had before written in its favour.—(Laughter.) Now he (Capt. Bernal) was ready to admit that lie believed that the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government wished to do justice to Ireland. It was, however, impossible for him to do so while, as was truly remarked by the Hon Mem ber for Bath some time ago, the present subordinates remained in power to hamper him.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet might rest assured that those subor dinates would ultimately sink his Government in Ire land.—(Hear, hear.) He (Capt. Bernal) well recollected being at the dinner in Ballinasloe, at which Mr. O'Brien was present, and he recollected that at dinner Mr. O'Brien struck out the name of Lord Ebrington from the list of toasts because that Noble Lord was not fa vourable to repeal. He would ask the Noble Lord (Lord Eliot) whether he believed that Mr. O'Brien was a person calculated to administer justice with impar tiality, with coolness, and with temper ?—(Hear, hear.) If such appointments as these were made by the Irish Government he (Captain Bernal) thought that Government ought to be subjected to supervision with respect to all appointments they might hereafter make. It was generally believed in Ireland that the ap pointments which were made by Lord de Grey were very much influenced by marriage connections. Be (Captain Bernal) stated this fearlessly in that House, for he knew it to be the fact. In consequence of this, great disappointment and dissatisfaction was felt in Ireland. Ile (Captain Bernal), in conclusion, must say that the appointment of Mr. O'Brien appeared to him, to use the mildest term, a most unwise proceeding. Lord ELIOT said, he had had the statement dis tinctly from Mr. O'Brien himself that the name of Lord Ebrington was not in the list of toasts at the Ballinasloe dinner. After a few wordi from Mr. F. FRENCH, the subjec dropped. Mr. GREENE (Chairman of 'the ComMittee) said a vote could not be postponed. Mr. HUME doubted that decision very much. How ever, it certainly could be postponed by consent of both parties ; and if the Government withheld its consent from so reasonable a proposition he would oppose the vote altogether. and divide the House upon it. Ministers still declining to postpone the vote, Mr. HUME was understood to move that it be reduced by the sum of 2,0001 Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the House proceeded to divide upon the amendment, when there appeared— For the vote Against it Majority for the vote —4s On the gallery being re-opened, we found b Mr. lIUME addressing the Committee, having, as we understood, previously moved that the Chairman do re port progress. No Ministry that ever sat on the Trea sury benches had got the estimates voted with so little opposition as the present one—(Hear, hear)—and there fore it had no excuse for the course it had thought proper to pursue. They were called on to vote between 2,000/. and 3.0001 for the expense of the custom-house on the island, and yet there was not one of the gentle men who could state what were the items of the revenue derived either from the customs or the excise. He thought they were bound to give the Committee some explanation. Dr. BOWRING thought the pressing the vote through the Committee was acting without ordinary courtesy. They had no means of judging of the neces sity of the vote at all. He should feel bound to support the motion for reporting progress. Lord STANLEY said he would undertake that every detail and information should be laid before the Commit tee to the fullest extent. _ _ Mr. WILLIAMS thought the Committee was entitled to some information. The promise of the noble Lord only referred to a future time, while the point was to ascertain now whether the vote was necessary. Sir G. CLERK said the vote was accompanied with more details this year than on any other occasion, as he had had the claims classified. He would be prepared on Monday to furnish Hon. Gentlemen with both the gross and net amount of the increase of the revenue of the island for the last three years. Sir C. NAPIER asked what was the use of a salary of between three and four hundred a year to a harbour master ? He hoped the Hon. Member for Montrose would divide the Committee. _ _ _ SUPPLY. „....._. Mr. HUME said it was on principle that he objected to proceeding ; he objected, on the principle that they ought to have the information before going to a vote. The Government might carry everything if they chose by their majority, but where there was a reasonable re quest made for information, he thought it ought to be granted. Dr. BOWRING observed that so many Hon. Gentle men had entered the House ready to vote who bad not heard a word of the discussion, that he would not now press the Hon. Member to divide the Committee. Mr. AGLIONBY also trusted that the Hon. Member would withdraw the motion, on the promiSe that the Government would afford the information. After a short conversation, Mr. HUME withdrew his motion. On 7,2191. being proposed in aid of the Western Aus tralian Fund, Mr. HUME asked what was the present state of the colony ? Lord STANLEY referred the Hon. Gentleman to the annual statistical report of the colony ; if he wished to have any other details which the journals of the House would furnish, they should be produced. The Blue-book contained the items of revenue and expenditure under every head, and it was also accompanied by an annual report from the Governor. Dr. BOWRING said some of the Blue-books con tained items which were continued the same year after year. Some of them were drawn up in an admirable manner, and others very inefficiently. Mr. ROEBUCK thought that as some of the reports and returns furnished to the House were so voluminous as to be perfectly use!ess, this information might be given in a very small compass. Dr. BOWRING thought a colonial budget would be a great advantage. Such a system existed in France, where all the receipts and disbursements with respect to the colonies were accounted for. The vote was then agreed to. On the vote of 3,7751., to defray expenses incurred in the colony of South Australia, Mr. HUME asked what was the present state of that colony ? Lord STANLEY said that Governor Grey, who had conducted himself, since he came to the government of the colony, with great zeal and ability, had stated, in his last accounts, that, he had not overdrawn the sum allowed him by the Government for the service of the colony, and that the revenue and expenditure of the colony were now equal. The vote was then agreed to. The next vote,, of 4,2241., in aid of the settlement of Port Essington, was agreed to after a short discussion. The next vote proposed was for 9,8127., to defray the expenses of the establishment at the Falkland Islands. Mr. ROEBUCK believed that there was some ques tion as to our right to these islands at all, and he thought they had better be at once given up. The climate was very inhospitable, and they were not•of , any use. He doubted whether they ever could become a colony, and yet the Government had here a regular establishment, with, as usual, a chaplain, and they were now called upon to vote 9,0001. for their support. Lord STANLEY said the islands had been taken possession of by the late Government, and it was thought desirable to assert our right to them. A small estab • lishment had been sent out there, which, of course, was an expense to the country, as the colony produced no thing. It was, however, desirable to maintain it as a station to afford assistance to ships, and to furnish them with fresh meat and provisions. The estimate was on the lowest possible scale, and there was every desire to On the Order of the Day for going into Committee of Supply being read, Mr. HUME rose and said, he wished, before they went into Committee, to make a few observations with respect to the vote of 397,0001. for Colonial purposes, • which was the first on the estimates. Some years ago, when he used to call the atten tion of the House to the large estimates which were voted for -colonial purposes, with a view to their reduction, he was always told that, owing to the slave establishment in our colonies, and owing to the peculiar circumstances under which the colonies were p!aced, it was impossible to reduce the estimates. Now, the slave establishments in the colonies, and the peculiar circumstances under which the colonies used to be placed were abolished, and ho thought, therefore, that it was high time that some reduction should be made in this large estimate for colonial purposes. He did not wish at all to injuriously restrict the public expenditure, but still he thought that this vote was one which required inquiry. There was no country in the world which could compete with England in manufacturing enterprise, but then that was completely shackled by the various prohibitory duties which were exacted 'for the yrotection of class interests. _ _ Lord STANLEY could assure the House and the Hon. Member for Montrose that the Government were most anxious to observe the strictest economy with re spect to the expenses of the colonies. He was also anxious to take the present opportunity of stating to, the House that all the grievances under which the colonies were alleged to be labouring, would be most carefully in vestigated by the Government, the Secretary of State for the Colonies at the same time reserving to himself the right of placing the Governor of the particular colony in a position to render any explanation in his power. It was likely that the subject of the colony of New Zealand would be brought before the house, when the Government would afford every information in their power. Mr. AGLIONBY said that the New Zealand Com pany had sent out 10,000 emigrants to the colony, and be agreed with the Hon. Memer for Montrose, that this was a subject which required a thorough and searching parliamentary inquiry. With respect to the New Zealand Company he was most desirous that a searching and full inquiry into the particulars of the case should be entered upon, because he felt sure that by no means could that company suffer by it. It was also a colony of that im portance which should demand every attention, for in one year oil to the value of noless than 175,0001. had been shipped from the port of Wellington alone. Lord STANLEY again said he was ready to render any information which was available to the Government. Mr. ROEBUCK was strongly in favour of a Parlia mentary Committee of Inquiry, because he thought that when the interests of so many persons were concerned it was right to see whether any fraud existed. Sir R. PEEL protested that the Government were quite as anxious as the Hon. Member for Montrose to observe the strictest economy in the expenditure upon the colonies. _ _ Mr. MANGLES thought that many of the local grievances in the colonies, arose from the lavish expendi ture of the revenues derived from them. Mr. WILLIAMS agreed with the Hon. Member who had just sat down. They were required to pay 49,7001. for magistrates for the West India colonies. On what ground were they charged with that item ? He wished that the, labourers of this country required as few magis trates to administer justice as the negro population. With respect to education, there was no branch of ex penditure to which he would have less objection, but considering the condition of the negroes he thought the item on that account, totally unnecessary. 11,0001. was asked for the clergy of Canada, notwithstanding that the Crown had surrendered to them a large proportion of its land resources. This item also was open to great objection. The House then went into Committee. 3,480/. was voted - fix.' the civil establishments in the Bahama Islands. 400/. was voted for the civil establishment of Sable Island, Nova Scotia. " 13,680/. was propOsed to be granted for the civil esta blishments or the western coast of Africa. On the vote that the sum of 13,5001. be granted to de-, fray the civil charges of St. Helena, Mr. HUME objected to the charge as being excessive, and beyond the worth of the colony. Sir G. .CLERIC defended the grant. The duties of civil officers were far more onerous, and important than Hon. Gentlemen opposite were aware of. Sir C. NAPIER could not help referring with some feeling of ridicule to the appointment of a harbour master to such a place as the port at St. Helena. Mr. HUME concurred with the Gallant Commodore, in thinking that it was very absurd to appoint a harbour master for such a port. Mr. WILLIAMS also opposed the vote. keep down the expenditure. Mr. ROEBUCK complained that the Noble Lcrd had not given any assurance that this would ever be a co lony. He stated, in the first place, that it produced no thing; and, in the second place, that it was kept up to furnish fresh provisions to ships. Now, what did they want with- a governor, government clerk, and chaplain, with an expenditure of 9,0001. a year, to furnish fresh provisions for ships? Lord STANLEY said that the island produced rough grass, and there were cattle there which supplied the ships with fresh meat. Dr. BOWRING drew the attention of the House to the manner in which this estimate had increased. In 1842 it was 2,000/.; the next year it had increased one hundred per cent. ; it was 4,000/. ; and now, in 1844, it was 9,8001. Mr. HUME protested against maintaining this esta blishment when it had been first proposed, and he had then been told that it was never to exceed 2,000/. It ap peared from the returns that, during the last half year, the amount received for beef and hides was 981. 10s. 11d., and the expense of looking after the cattle was 1,000/. Mr. A. CHAPMAN supported the vote; which, After a few words from Lord STANLEY,was agreed to. On the proposal of a vote of 7,565/. for the expense of the colony of New Zealand. Mr. ROEBUCK said that in this case he found. they had a governor, a chief justice, and a bishop. Now this was a colony founded upon what was called the grandest discovery of modern times—a self-supporting colony— and here they were called upon, now, to pay for it. He found here, as in other instances, a great desire to push forward the Church.. What did,they want to do with a bishop? They could not be content with sending out an honest, poor parson, but they must send out a bishop. What could they want with a bishop in New Zealand? It was an outrage on the country to be making these estab lishments for bishops who were maintained out of the sweat of the English people. Lord STANLEY had no desire to discuss the pro priety of furnishing religious instruction to those who emigrated to our colonies.—(Cheers.) The present Go vernment was not responsible for the appointment of the Bishop. It had taken place under the late Government. Dr. Selwyn, the present Bishop, had given up all his hopes of preferment here to undertake the office of Bishop, in the colony on the faith that he should have the salary. The faith of the Government was pledged to the Bishop and he hoped the House would not break the faith which the Government had pledged to him. Mr. ROEBUCK said, it might have been that the Bishop of New Zealand gave up his expectations in this country to be promoted to the Bishopric of New Zealand, but that was no reason why this country should be taxed for such useless dignity. The Noble Lord made an ad misericordiam appeal to the House, but why should this country be obliged to maintain expensive Church esta blishments in all our colonies ? He could suggest a reason, but it might be unpalateable. Mr. HUME said, the Government had distinctly pledged itself not to introduce this charge among the estimates—a pledge distinctly made to this House ' and through this House to the country. The Noble Lord told them the Government was pledged to the Bishop. Which was the pledge, to the House or to the country, to be first redeemed ?—(Hear, hear.) He thought that to the country. Half the people of England did not go to church, yet they were obliged to pay not only for the Church in this country, but for a Church among a people whom they knew nothing of. The next thing the Government would do would be to send out a Bishop to the Falkland Isles, and to every other habitable colony that a handful of people could exist upon. Lord STANLEY said the vote had been sanctioned by the House for the last three years, and he now saw no reason why they should depart oin their former practice. Mr. VERNON SMITH said the Noble Lord was mistaken in stating that the late Government had intro duced the vote to the Bishop of New Zealand among the estimates. It was not so. The Noble Lord was the first Colonial Secretary who introduced this vote among the estimates. lie thought the ap pointment of a Bishop to New Zealand was inappropriate and inexpedient, and calculated to bring ridicule on the Bishop himself. Lord STANLEY said he was incorrect in saying that the late Government had introduced the vote to the Bishop of New Zealand among the estimates, but it had been sanctioned by the Treasury, and the Bishop had gone out on the faith that the vote would be granted by Government. Mr. A GLIONBY spoke in favour of the apppintment. Lord SANDON said the New Zealand Company had offered great inducements for a bishop to go out to New Zealand. They were most anxious for the appointment. Mr. lIUME—Then let them pay for it. After some furtistr observations from Dr. BOWRING and Mr. WiLuksis, Mr. HUME moved that the vote of 7,657/. be reduced to 6,9751. —that was minus the vote to the bishop. After a short conversation the Committee divided, when the numbers were — For the amendment Against it . 80 Majority Mr. HUME said he must insist on the vote being postponed until some further information was given to the House upon it. Privy Council, containing any provision or regulation with reference fo the terms, conditions, or circum stances under which aid should be granted to schools in Scotland, whether in connexion or.not in connexion with the Established Church of Scotland, or with the National School Society, or the British and Foreign School So ciety...-Agreed to. PRESBYTERIAN MARRIAGES—(IRELAND.) Mr. ROSS said that the Right,Hon. Gentleman oppo site was doubtless aware that great excitement had been occasioned in Ireland by certain recent decisions of the Courts of Law and the House of Lordi on the subject of Presbyterian marriages. He wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman if it was the intention of the Govern ment to introduce any measure to legalise marriages celebrated by clergymen of the Presbyterian persuasion —marriages which had been for the last two centuries supposed to be perfectly legal ? Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that the present state of the law on the subject had recently attracted the at tention of the House of Lords ; a Committee of that House had been appointed to investigate the subject, and he had every reason to believe that a Bill on the subject, emanating from the Committee, would very shortly be laid upon the table of the other House of Parliament. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Sir JAMES GRAHAM wished to remind the House that, in consequence of the postponement of the Irish Registration Bill, he had given notice that it w,as his intention that evening to move the second reading of the County Courts Bill as the first Order of the Day. He had, however, omitted to give formal notice of his inten tion, and the consequence was that the Order of the Day for the Committee of Supply stood as the Order of the Day to be first taken after the Irish Registration Bill. He wished that no Hon. Member should be taken by surprise, and therefore he would leave it to the House to determine whether he should proceed with the County Courts Bill—(Hear, hear)—or whether the Committee of Supply should be taken. It was entirely an error of his own that proper notice had not been given. Mr. J. JERVIS had given notice of an amendment on the County Courts Bill. He had to thank the Right Hon. Gentleman for his courtesy in informing him that it was his intention to proceed with the Bill that even ing. He (Mr. Jervis) was perfectly prepared to go on, but he knew several Hon. Members who had gone away under the impression that the County Courts Bill would not come on; and, under those circumstances, he thought it would be better, that the County Courts Bill should be postponed. Mr. WATSON expressed a hope that the discussion on the County Courts Bill would be deferred until some other evening. Sir JAMES GRAHAM thought it would perhaps be best to take the business of the evening as it stood upon the paper Mr. LABOUCHERE did not object to the arrange ments entered into yesterday ; but he must observe that, strictly speaking, it was better not to allow that course to be established as a precedent. By saying that, he did not mean to throw any obstacle in the way of the arrangements that had been made. Lord ASHLEY wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentle man in the Chair, whether the same objection applied to the instructions to the Committee, of which notice had just been given by the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath, as the Right Hon. Gentleman had stated, applied to his (Lord Ashley's) instructions ? The SPEAKER said that the same objection to the motion which the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath proposed to make did not (as we understood) apply, as in the case of the motion of the Noble Lord the other day. The rule of the House was this—that no person could instruct the Committee to do that which the Com mittee could do without them. If the proposition of the Hon. and Learned Member was within the scope of the Bill, it was quite competent to the Committee to deal with it without any instruction to them. But, if it were not, the Hon. and Learned Member could move his instructions. Mr. ROEBUCK said—perhaps the Houss would allow him to state that he, too, had considered the point of form, and he took the rule of the House to be this — that no instruction could affirm the powers of a Com mittee, but that it might restrict or extend those powers. His (Mr. Roebuck's) purpose was to restrict, and he, therefore, thought that it was competent for him to move his instruction. Mr. HUME said he was altogether against the prin ciple of interfering with manual labour ; but as he was in favour of several clauses of the Bill, he could not con cur with the lion. and Learned Member's proposal, lest he should be found acting in opposition to the whole measure. _ _ _ _ Sir J. GRAHAM said, that as a point of order he thought notice should be given before they discussed this question. He would submit that the object of an instruction to the Committee was not that that Commit tee should do anything, or omit to do anything, but only to give the Committee power to do something, which otherwise they would not be competent to do.—(Hear, hear.) If it were competent to them to do anything, or to omit to do anything, without an instruction, then he submitted that the instruction not being necessary, was unparliamentary. The single question was, whether the abject, sought by the Hon. Member for Bath, could be attained without an instruction ?—(Hear, hear.) If it could be, he would submit that the instruction was un necessary and unparliamentary. Mr. ROEBUCK said he certainly could not attain his object without an instruction. His object was to pre vent the Committee from entertaining the question. The SPEAKER said it would not be for the con venience of the House that this matter should be debated upon a mere hypothetical case. The proper time for debating the question would be when it arose upon a point of order. lie had endeavoured to explain to the House what he conceived to be the rule ; at the same time he thought the question should be discussed when the Hon. and Learned Member moved the instruction. Mr. WARD said he thought the Hon. and Learned. Member would fully attain his object, by moving the omission of the 32c1 clause, and that would raise the whole point. He had himself come down to the House with the intention of giving notice that he would move the omission of that clause. The Order of the Day for the second reading of the Irish Registration Bill was read for the purpose of being postponed. CHARITABLE PAWN SOCIETIES BILL. In answer to a question from Mr. GISBORNE, Mr. GLADSTUNE was understood to say that the Government did not intend to interfere with this Bill. BANK CHARTER BILL Sir J. GRAHAM stated, that as the Budget was fixed for the 29th, and generally took precedence of other business, it would be taken on that evening, before the discussion on; he Bank Charter Bill. Lord J. RUSSELL said the Budget was at all times a matter of interest, and would this year be particularly so ; they could not, therefore, be sure that the discussion on it would last but a short time. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE thought the Bank Charter might as well be postponed at once till the Gth of May. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND). On the motion of Lord ELIOT the Municipal Cor porations (Ireland) Bill was read a second time, without opposition, and ordered to be committed on tho 29th. COUNTY COURTS. In answer to a question from Mr. JERVIS. Sir J. GRAHAM fixed the Committee on the Count, Courts Bill for Monday next. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A messenger from the Lords brought up several Bills. EXPENDITURE OF THE HOUSE OF LORDS. On Sir S. GRAHAM moving the Order of the Day for going into Committee of Supply. Mr. HUME said he had on several occasions, during past years, submitted to the House the propriety of hav inf. before it an account of the expenditure of the House of Lords, which this House was called on to pay, and which they had voted, notwithstanding considerable op position. What he wished to ask was this, whether he should be able to call fur any copy of a report of the House of Lords, purporting to recommend an addi tional expenditure of 1,000/. • If the House of Lords thought fit to create a new office ' or increase the salary of an existing one, he wished to know what, means this House had of possessing the grounds on which that change took place, because he had been told flatly that it could not be given. If an officer who had no duty to perform was paid 501. a year, he might be paid very amply ; and if the House of Lords chose to increase his salary to 1,550 L he wished to know what means the Commons of England had of informing them selves of the grounds of that increase? Lord STANLEY'S reply was inaudible in the gallery. Mr. HUME said he had received no answer to the question he had put. Lord STANLEY said he apprehended it was in the Hon. Gentleman's power to move for any information he might require. Mr. HUME then gave notice that he should- move that the vote he had objected to should be deferred till Monday or Tuesday, when he.would make a motion on the subject. BOROUGH OF HORSHAM. Mr. TUFNELL wished to know from the Hon. Gen tleman opposite (Sir T. Fremantle) why the writ for Horsham had not been moved, when writs for the other vacancies had been so? A vacancy in the representa tion ought always to be filled up without delay. Sir T. FREMANTLE said he was not called upon to explain why the vacancy for this borough had not been filled up. He presumed, however, that the writ of summons to the House of Lords not having been issued, the Hon. Gentleman indirectly referred to had not ceased to be a Member of that House. The House of Commons could not, of course, issue a writ for a Member until an actual vacancy occurred. _ Lord J. RUSSELL said the Hon. Oentleman who had last spoken asserted that he had no know ledge on this subject, and he was not answerable for what the Government took no particular interest in. The Government ought to feel an interest wherever in jury was dono, and there was no greater injury to the public than when a borough was left without its repro sentative.—(Hear, hear.) It was notorious that no one could sit as a Member there when he had become a Mem ber of the other House. The non-issuing of the writ in question might occur from some delay or neglect, but, if continued, then he (Lord John Russell) should consider it necessary to bring the subject formally under the consideration of the House, in order to the application of a remedy.—(Hear, hear.) SUPPLY. Sir GEORGE CLERK thought that as some disel sion was likely to take place before going into s Commit. tee of Supply, it was as well that he should state what estimates he intended to proceed with. He did not in tend to proceed with the estimates in class four, be cause some of them were not yet printed; but he should proceed with class five, the Colonial Estimates; with class six, and with class seven. CANADIAN MINISTRY. Mr. ROEBUCK wished to ask the Noble Lord, the Secretary for the Colonies, if he would have any objec tion to lay before the House copies of any communica tions which had passed between the Governor-General of Canada and his Ministry on the subject of the late EDUCATION IN IRELAND. Captain BERNAL wished to know when the estimates ['or public education in Ireland would be proposed ? Sir GEORGE CLERK said that the pressure of pub ic business was such, that it was impossible at present :o fix the day. SUPPLY OF TIMBER TO THE NAVY. Sir C. NAPIER rose, agreeably to notice, to put a question to the Secretary to the Admiralty, on the sub ject of the supply of timber to the navy. It appeared that two ships had recently required a good deal of re pair, in consequence of the badness of the timber which had been used in their construction. He had had an opportunity of examining returns of the quantity of timber supplied to the dockyards for the year 1840 to the year 1841, and it appeared that 274,131 loads of timber had been received into the dock-yards during that period by private contract, and and 56,035 loads by public competition. Sometime ago he found that it was usual for the Government when timber wits received into the dockyards to have it examined by the surveying officer, and he un derstood that when timber , had been rejected by him as unfit for service, it had been ordered by the storekeeper to be received at reduced prices. Now, under such a system, it was impossible that the dock yards could be properly supplied with timber. They had heard the other night from the Secretary to the Admiralty that no inferior officer was permitted to sign an order in his own name, but that all orders must be signed by the Secretary to the Admiralty. He, therefore, asked by what right the storekeeper took upon himself to sign an order for admitting in ferior timber 'into the dockyards, at a reduced price ? Formerly it was the custom to ascertain from the con tractors where end when the timber furnished to the Go vernment forship-building was grown. That practice had been discontinued about 10 or 12 years since, and at the present day the surveying officer knew nothing about where or when the timber was cut down. The Hon. and Gallant officer here recounted the various stations, and ships of war at each, which France bad throughout the world, and pointed out that, as our navy was circum stanced at present, we were not in a position to compete with the French. While the French had a large squadron of observation, we had not a single ship ready for sea. He wished also to point out another subject to the con sideration of the Government—he meant harbours of refuge. It was but a few years ago since the French Government granted 170 millions of francs for the purpose of forming harbours of refuge, and they had this year added four millions more for the same purpose. He concluded by moving for a return of the quantity of timber that for the last ten years had been presented at the different dockyards and rejected by the officer, and of the quantities received by order of the storekeeper-general; also for a list of all orders in the public service signed by the subordinate officers. The question having been put, Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT said that the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman who had preceded him was per fectly well aware of the practice pursued in her Majesty's dockyards, timber not being of the size specified in the contract was rejected, un less it could be made useful for the public service. Both the present Admiralty and the last had done all they could to break down the monopoly which existed in the timber market, and had endeavoured to establish a fair competition, but they had been hitherto unsuccessful. When he (Mr. S. Herbert) came into office, Earl Minto told him that there . was one timber-merchant in the market; whose influence was so great that no other merchant was able to compete with him. The Hon. and Gallant Officer had spoken of some reductions which he said were contemplated in our naval force, and had re ferred to what foreign Powers were doing, and to the ex tent of their forces. Now he (Mr. S. Herbert) knew no subject more mischievous to be introduced into discus sion in that House, than the relative strength of the forces of this and other countries. Such discussions only tended to create alarms for which there was, in fact, no substantial foundation. He was very certain that, if occasion should ever arise, and it should be ne cessary for the Government to ask for assistance, that House would never be backward with its assistance.— (Hear, hear.) He did not feel himself justified in giving the returns asked for , by the Hon. and Gallant Officer, but any information which with propriety he could give, he should have great pleasure in communicatinc , to him. After a few words from Mr. FOSTER and Sir CHARLES NAPIER, Mr. BARNARD said he was glad that some altera tion was about being effected in the mode in which those contracts were made. Mr. lIUME also animadverted in strong terms upon the manner in which the contracts had been made. Sir GEORGE COCKBUItN thought that the mode in which those contracts had been Completed in times past was open to reprehension, but the Admiralty at the present time were doing all in their power to render the fulfilment of those contracts as beneficial as possible to the public. After a few words from Mr. HUME, the amendment was negatived, without a division. STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES (IRELAND). Mr. BELLEW, in rising to draw the attention of the House to the appointment of stipendiary magistrates in Ireland, had no intention to make any observations on the debate which had taken place the other night, except to express his regret that the cause of that debate should have arisen from the dismissal of ten magistrates who had been appointed by the last. Government. Those dismissals were not worth much on the score of eco nomy, and in every other point of view they had better not have taken place. The Noble Lord had observed that it was extraordinary that the late Government, at the very time they were boasting of the increased tran quility of Ireland, should have thought it necessary to increase the number of stipendiary magistrates. Now, it appeared to him that the increase in the num ber of stipendiary magistrates might be considered as one of the causes of the increased tranquillity. He was not opposed to the system of appoint ing additional stipendiary magistrates. Ho thought there ought to be one attending every petty ses sion. They understood their business better than the local magistrates did; they were-not actuated by local pre judices, and they acted under the immediate supervision of the Executive. In England, public opinion was so strong, and there in general existed such feelings of mutual goodwill between the eountrygentlernen and their neighbours, that the local magistrates formed perhaps the best possible arbitrators for the settlement of local dis putes. In Ireland, however, the case was different, and so strongly was this felt that, even so far back as the Government of the Marquis of Wellesley, stipendiary magistrates had been appointed. Their appointment had been always opposed by the local magistrates, and as these latter were almost all Tories, the number of sti- pendiaries had not been greatly increased until the Go vernment of the Marquis of Normanby, when the number was increased to . forty. At present there were about sixty of them, and he was happy to hear that it was the intention of the Government to keep up the number. What could be moreab,urd than that the administration of justice should be left to the caprice of country gentlemen ? The machinery for the administra tion of Justice in the counties of Ireland was more com plete than it was in England. In Ireland they had a public prosecutor in every court of quarter sessions. They had also the assistant barristers, which they had not in this country. They were men of some standing at the bar, and were an excellent body of "men ; and then they had the stipendiary magistrates. He wished to call the attention of the Right Hon. Ba ronet at the bead of the Government to the cases of Messrs. Brereton and O'Brien, who had been appointed stipendiary magistrates by the present Government. It was well known that in the county of Tipperary, in par ticular, the people were not remarkable for confidence in the administration of justice, and it was, therefore, the more necessary to make unexceptionable appointments in that county. In general the people and the prisoner were on the one side—the police, the Crown prose cutor, and the magistracy on the other. A verdict of acquittal was hailed by the people as a triumph—by the other side it was regarded with dismay ; a verdict of guilty was received in the manner of a party victory by those who should only desire to promote the ends of justice— the humbler classes were grieved and disappointed at it. The Noble Lord the Secretary for Ireland must be by this time aware of the conduct of Mr. Brereton concern ing a prisoner who was tried at the Nenagh Assizes, and of the manner in which that functionary took down the depositions of the witnesses. The judge on the trial felt it his duty to say that Mr. Brereton not only neg lected his duty, but had violated the law, This was strong language from a judge, and the Government could not pass over such gross culpability. Regarding Mr. O'Brien, it was well known that a short time ago he was a violent Repealer—a member of the Repeal Asso ciation—ono of its most active members too. He car ried his enthusiasm so far in the Repeal cause that he refused to drink the health of Lord Ebrington, the then Lord Lieutenant, at a public dinner in the town of Bal • linasloe. One year he eulogised Mr. O'Connell in the most ardent and even bombastic manner, declaring he was worthy of the eternal gratitude of his countrymen—, his praise was so gross that it must have been fulsome to the most warm admirers of Mr. O'Connell; the next year he denounced him in the most malignant and in temperate language ; he said the people were drilled by an old lawyer, instead of a soldier—a monster who was only fit to grace a gibbet. (The Hon. Member read several extracts from Mr. O'Brien's letters, which were received by Hon. Members on both side of the House with visible marks of disgust.) Yerthat was the person whom the Government had appointed to the office of stipendiary magistrate, a post which required the great est prudence, and the most untainted character.—(Hear, hear.) Such an appointment was highly objectionable, on the ground of lowering the standard of public principle acid public morals, as well as shaking the confidence of the Irish people in the administration of justice. The only ground that he could see upon which the appointment of this man could be justified was his gross and filthy abuse of Mr. O'Connell.—(Hear, hear.) In fact, it was a premium held out to abuse Mr. O'Connell. Some years ago, Mr. Blake, a stipendiary magistrate, was dis missed by Lord Normanby, the then Lord Lieutenant, because it was ascertained that Mr. Blake had been dis missed by a court-martial, 24 years before, even although 1,023/. was voted for the civil establishment of Heli goland. On the motion that 18,3941. be granted to pay the charges and expenses of the Governors and Lieutenant- Governors of the West India colonies, Sir C. NAPIER said that now that they had steam communication, there was no reason to appoint Lieute nant-Governors for all these islands. He begged to suggest for the consideration of the Noble Lord, whether it would not be better to have one Governor-General for the whole of the islands. Lord STANLEY said it had been found necessary to Lave a separate officer for each island. The vote was agreed to. On the vote that 11,303/. be granted for the ecclesi astical institutions of British North America. Mr. ROEBUCK said that he was desirous to have this grant more fully considered than it could be in this night's Committee. Lord STANLEY said that he would make no objec tion to the adjournment of the Committee till Monday next. The CHAIRMAN then reported progress. The other Orders of the day were disposed of, and the House adjourned at Twelve o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. No. 108, (continued.)—W. Education, Science, and Art, Estimates, &c., Miscellaneous Services, for the Year ending 31st March, 1845.—This estimate shows an increase of 45,3761., as compared with that of 1842, for the like services, and of 35,7931., compared with last year. The services for the current year are charged, respectively, as follows :—(1.) Public Edu cation, Great Britain, 40,000/. (2.) Ditto, Ireland, 72,0001. (3.) Schools of Design, 4,4101. (4.) Pro fessors of Oxford and Cambridge, 2,0061. (5.) Uni versity of London, 5,1881. (6.) Universities, &c., Scotland, 7,3801. (7.) Roman Catholic College, Ire land, 8,9281. (8 and 9.) Royal Irish Academy, and Royal Hibernian Academy (each 3001.), 6001. (10.) Royal Dublin Society, 6,8501. (11.) Belfast Acade mical Society, 2,1001. (12 and 13.) British Museum : viz., Establishment, &c., 37,9871.; Ditto, Buildings, 46,030/. ; Ditto, Purchases, 3,245/. (14.) National Gallery : Picture Purchases, and Expenses of the Gallery, &c., 1,5001. (15.) Museum of Economic Geology, 2,3001. (16.) Scientific Works and Experi ments, 7,2351. (17.) Monuments to Sir Sydney Smith Lord De Saumarez, and Lord Exmouth, 1,5001. (18.) Agricultural Museum, of Edinburgh, 5,0001. (19) Botanic Garden, Dublin, 2,000/.—ln all, 256,260/. No. 108, (continued.)-Itstimates, &c., Miscella neous Services for year ending March 31, 1845.- (VI.) Superannuation and Retired Allowancesand G ra tuities for Charitable and other purposes. This class comprehends 18 Estimates :- (1.) Superannuation and , Retired Allowances ; vote required, 86,9371. (2.) Toulonese and Corsican Emigrants; ditto, 6,2001. (3) Vaccine Establishment ; ditto, 1,8501. (4.) Refuge for the Destitute ' • ditto, 3,0001 . (5.) Polish Refugees and Distressed Spaniards, 12,1001. (6.) Miscellaneous Charges, formerly on the Civil List ; ditto, 4,9321. (7.) Miscellaneous Charges, formerly on the Hereditary Revenue of Scotland ; ditto, 2,1541. (8.) Foundling Hospital, Dublin ; ditto, 6,7671. (9.) House of Industry, .Dublin; ditto, 13,429/. (10.) Female Orphan House, Dublin; ditto, 1,0001. (11.) Westmoreland Lock Hospital, Dublin; ditto, 2,500/. (12.) Lying-in-Hospital, Dublin ; ditto, 1,0001. (13.) Dr. Steevens's 'Hospital, Dublin ; ditto, 1,500/. (14.) FeVer Hospital, Cork-street, Dublin ; ditto, 3,0001. (15.) Hospital for Incurables, Dublin; ditto, 5001. (16.) Board of Charitable Donations and Bequests; ditto, 700 l: (17.) Non-Conforming and other Ministers, Ireland ; ditto, 35,630/. (18.) Con cordatum Fund, and other Charities and Allowances in Ireland; ditto, 7,3401.-Total aggregate to be voted, 190,539/., being a decrease of 4,852/. as com pared with the estimates of 1842, and of 1,7671. as compared with those of 1843. The items of increase on the comparison of last year are an excess of 650/. on vote No. 1, and of 721. on vote No. 6. The items of decrease are the diminished charges for vote No. 2, by 5001.; vote No. 5, by 500/. ; vo t e N o . 8,. by 830/. ; vote' No. 9, by 5441., and vote No. 18, by 135/. The vote for Superannuations and Retired Allow ances embraces the Treasury, including Solicitor's department, the three several , departments of the Home, Foreign, and Colonial. Secretaries, Privy Council Office, Board of Trade, Alien Office, State Paper Office, Slave-trade Commissioners, Consuls abroad, Convict Hulk Establishments, Insolvent Debtors' Court, Audit, Stationery, Exchequer Bill Offices, Exchequer Messengers, Paymaster-General, Paymaster of Civil Services, Mint, Ditto in Scotland (sinecure offices abo:ished), Deputy Keeper of Re galia (Scotland), Persons formerly employed on Roads (Scotland), Public Offices in 'lreland, late Linen Board, &c., Paymaster of Civil Services, late Vice- Treasurer and Teller of the Exchequer, Ireland (1,5601.), late Irish Annuity Office, National Debt Office, &c. No. 108, (continued.)-VII. Special and Tempo rary objects :-(1.) Towniand Survey of Ireland, 5,000/. (2.) Shannon Navigation, 2,9971. (3.) Am bassalor's Residence in Paris, 1,330/. (4.) Ambas sador's Residence at Constantipople, 10,0001. (5.) Steam Navigation to India, 50,0001. (6.) Militia and Volunteers in Canada, 16,6001.-In all, 85,9271. Decrease compared with 1843, 29,239/. 109. Civil Contingencies.-An account of the sum expended, under the head of Civil Contingencies, in the year 1843, and an estimate of the sum required for 1844.-The total expenditure under the head for the last year was very heavy; namely \ 116,4051. The estimated amount for the year, ending March 31, 1845, is 100,000/. Some of the items of last year's actual expenditure we shall here particularise :- 1. Extraordinary Disbursements of Ministers at Foreign Courts.-Under this head we are happy to observe that there is a decrease as compared with the year 1842 of 4,1811. The total amount is stated at 15,717/. ; in' the preceding year it was 19,898/. ; but on the charge of " Special Missions, Foreign mid Colonial," we find the enormous increase of 12,608/. ; in 1842 this charge was 22,2571. For last year it amounted to the enormous sum of 34,865/. Again, whereas in 1842 the charge for Outfit and Equipage of Ministers at Foreign Courts was nil, the expendi ture on this account last year was 6,680/. We must observe, however, that the total aggregate of increase on the expenditure of 1843, compared with 1842, out of the general grant for these branches of civil contingencies, was but 1,023/. ; and compared with 1841, it shows a decrease of 13,7901. These " extraordinary disbursements" do not include the salaries of our Ministers " at Foreign Courts," nor, of their attach4s, but only such it ems as pos t-office' charges; wages to .servants; charges incidental to keeping up of official residences, &c. ; also, charge of outfit and equipages. Our Ministers, whose expenses are to this extent charged. for in t his estimate, are those accredited to the Courts of France, Austria, Russia, Prussia, Sweden, Denmark, Bavaria, Frank fort, Holland, Belgium, Switzerland, Saxony, Wur temburg, Spain, Portugal, Buenos Ayres, New Granada, Brazils; Mexico, Naples, Tuscany, Sardinia, Greece,Conitantinople, Hamburg, Hanover, and Texas. Among a veriety of heavy charges, the equivalent of which it is somewhat difficult to discover in the items respectively set opposite to them, are the fol lowing :-Amount issued on account of the Right Hon.. Henry Ellis's special mission to the Emperor of Brazil, 1,500/. ; amount expended for the Earl Marshal's baton 104/. (!) ; the Commission ap pointed to settle the claims of British subjects who served in the Portuguese Army and Navy, during the war of liberation in Portugal, on account of expenses of the CoMmission, 2,0001. Miscellaneous Services.-Estimates, &c., for Miscel laneous Services for the year ending the 31st of March, 1845 -Colonial, Consular, and other Foreign Ser vices ; Civil Establishments and Expenses. These services are thus enumerated :-1. Bahamas, 3,4101. -2. Bermudas, 4,0491.-3. Prince Edward's Island, 3,070/.-4. Sable Island, Nova Scotia, 4001.- 5. Sierra Leore, Gambia, and Gold Coast, 13,680/.- 6. St. Helena, 13,500/.-7. Western Australia, 7,219/.-8. South Australia, 3,7751.-9. Port Es sington, 4,2241.-10. Falkland Isles, 9,8121.-11. New Zealand, 7,5651.-12. Heligoland, 1,023/.- 13. Governors and others, West Indies, 18,394/.- 14. Clergy, North America, 11,353/.-15. Indian Departments, Canada, 18,895/. -16. Emigration, 11,2821.-17. Justices in the West Indis, Mauri tius, &c., 49,7001.-18. Negro Education, 12,000/.- 19. Captured Negroes, support, &c., 35.000/.-20. Commissioners for Suppression of Slave -trade, 24,0001.-21. Consuls abroad, 07,3001.-22. Mi nisters at Foreign Courts (extraordinary expenses), 20,000/. The aggregate of these items (379,6511.) shows a decrease in 1844 of 44,207/., as compared • with 1842, and 46,962/., as compared with 1843. Commissariat (No. 133, 19th March, 1844, H. C.)- Abstracts of the accounts of Commissariat Officers abroad, during the period from Ist April, 1842, to 31st March, 1843. the abstracts are twenty-two in number. The details of each are given with much minuteness ;. but their general contents are also di gested into two accounts. The first of these (A) is a " General Abstract of the Receipts into, and Dis bursements from, the several Commissariat Chests of the following Colonial Stations," for the above period. The second (B) purports to be an " Analysis of Dis bursements, or expenditure, for Commissariat Chest Account in the Colonies." (A) The total receipts were-for Canada, 544,4521.; Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, 159,6451.; New foundland, 24,955/. ; Bermuda, 83,995/. ; Bahamas, 27,4141.; Windward and Leeward Islands, 302,211/. ; Jamaica, 151,121/.; Honduras, 16,3521.; Gibraltar, 115,395/.; Malta, 218,918/. ' • lonian Islands, 71,579/.; Cape of Good Hope, 237,337/. ; Mauritius, 97,093/. ; Sierra Leone, 40,804/. • Gambia, 8,216/. ; Ceylon, 71,184/. ; New South Wales, 233,625/. ; Van Die men's Land, 276,352/.; Western Austalia, 13,384/.; South Australia, 3,4721. ; St. Helena, 4 5 , 8411 . ; Mexico, 408,240 1.-Total, 3,151,586/. This Analysis (A) is subdivided into the following heads-namely, Amount of Bills drawn on the Treasury, 2,132,3227. ; Premium, 44,828/. ; Specie received from England, 107 9331 • Inprest between Stations, 469,7231,; same its, __— Repayable in England, 136,463/ ; Special Rec ei p , 200,8111.; Stoppages for Returns;3l,lls/. ; Mise e neous Receipts, 28,390/. Thelargest receipts, therefore, are returned respectively, for Gibraltar, Jamaica, I'l'° v3 Scotia and New Brunswick, Malta, New South Wale ' s the Cape of Good Hope, Van Diemen's Land, Wiadwaru and Leward Islands, Mexico, and Canada. Th e y we re , severally, in the order abovenamed, thesells,39sk 151,1211., 159,645/., 218,9181., 233,6251., 237, 331 .„ 1 ' 276,3521., 302,2111., 408,2401., and 544,4521. 011'7: hence it appears that the receipts of Van Diemen; Land were 42,7471 . more than those of the raotbe, colony, New South Wales.) To the above total :4 3,151,5861., must be -added, for amount of balances the several Commissariat chests, on Ist April, 1801 1,213,489/., making an aggregate receipt of 4,365,075 (B.) By this Analysis of Disbursements, it or pears that, for Honduras, the payments were less Orr the receipts by 536/. ; for Ceylon, by 61. only; New South Wales, by 6,6691.; for Van Dierneni Land, by 23,8141. ; for South Australia, by 2°7 1; Almost all the other items show a very consi ders % excess of payments over receipts ; for exaraple, t.nOrl lonian Islands, of 36,0261.; the Cape of Good Wri of 31,3271.; Nova Scotia and New Br.unswic, 23,275/. ; 'Mauritius, of 39,843/. ; Mexico, of 44,448&• and Canada, of no less than 137,7491. Loan Societies (No. 65, 28th February, N. Gi " Abstract of Accounts of Loan Societies in Eng,p la . l - 1 0 and Wales, to 31st December, 1843, by John -1.1t,0 Pratt, Esq., the Barrister appointed to certify Rules of Saving Banks, pursuant to 3 and 4 victolls_g c. 110, s. 27." Detailed accounts for f i fteen c ountl e of England and Wales ; the cities of London, Liira coin, and Oxford ; and the towns of Leicester on Southampton. THE NORTHERN PITMEN• (From the Newcastle Advertiser.) deli' We understand that the coalowners, after du e beration, have come to the conclusion that they f ir not employ the mon uneler the unreasonable re:Vbi Lions and restrictions contained in the bond draill t v e Mr. Roberts, and approved by the delegates 'As mentioned the commencement of fine weather, ';o. stock of coal on hand, the supply that could be R o . cured from coal-producing districts, and the IA poverished resources of the men themselves, and fir oil these combined circumstances came to the c0nc13151,10 that the strike would not be of long duration L a p we are sorry to learn that, in some instances, the Pn e ti have resorted to illegal proceedings, and atteo3Per by force and intimidation to prevent others fronl.e % ,,, c p cising the honest rights of industry. The Pl t ' - ‘l 4 are not in a position to coerce the coalowne rs, the consequences must be ruinous to thernse' oo n as they must- be ejected from their houses as sdi,. as a sufficient protective force gets into the ow trict. In several instances the windows of erie unionists have been broken, and personal fence has been resorted to. At Castle Eden Colliery, lit o owners attempted to send away the coals theY lying at the bank previous to the strike, and as thengo gular men refused to fill them into the waggons , stra uel men were engaged for the purpose. They were attaeote by a large assemblage of men, and women, wh o ipo' them from their occupation, even though the rurli, be ia licemen of the district were employed to guar d ' ve ts from molestation. In two or three' instances geol. wounds were inflicted. At Garmondsway M° °r lef liery, Brancepeth Park Colliory, Kelloe and Tb° 11 , 3 1 , 0 Colliery, similar outrages have been committed. Durham Chronicle says:— s taff " We believe we may, with, perfect confidenc e, :00 that three-fourths of the pitmen would prefer to t bsg to terms at once with the colliery owners, rather to incur the fearful consequences of a strike at ail , tp lii r 0 less one of so extensive and destructive a charg e- tisl that which the arbitrary rule of their delegates, 004 under the guidance and conforming to the Pe r rP,.tbe of their great legal director, has caused them , 30 ' pot present, to adopt. Intimations of this fact ha ve a' been wanting ; but as the owners have no power ri e nci rantee the safety of the workmen from personal " ° ,p of from the class to which we have alluded, thouge li oeit well-disposed, industrious, and peaceable men, Va t " rg , wives and families, must be exposed to all the bor r Slbo poverty, unless the Government step in to aff,° r , 'protection which it is alone competent to exteno .' „ e rlf Every exertion is being made to protect the por tr od and persons of the well-disposed. On Monday r , e 1 ," t aie of the Bth Hussars, under the command' of ' ; 3 ,' Desales, and a company of the 37th lleg" 31 1 marched from this town to the city Of. n „r as a more central point, should their services ~c, t ; quired. On the same morning a. co mpany °` a nil diers left Sunderland barracks for Durhairi another company were under orders -to start at r jeri o'clock for South Hetton Colliery, but counter ° t bef reached the barracks on Sunday night, t,h,, g ' t „ prc; were not to proceed until further orders. . 1 " . " 0 3 ,," ventive service men from Sunderland, Seah, l3 Z r olei Castle Eden, went by railway, on Monday to 'P'"" c og' Colliery, where they will be stationed for the pre s t oiel Lion of the peace. Upwards of seventy special co w .n s il b 0 1 ' were sworn at South Hetton on Saturday. T:ijesc; these arrangeMents there ,is little danger of v t hp r Since Saturday a considerable quantity of 0000, been brought down the railway to Sunderland, thought the supplies of the collieries that ship 6 '00; port will soon be run out. It is said Lord Lond° l , 13 has upwards of sixteen thousand chaldrons at ba n. "' these will of course be shipped at Seaham. ----------- o od, MARRIED. Th o m On the 9th inst., at Sidbury, Devon, Th,?. - ii; s ta v A Esq., Sidmouth, to Jane, third daughter of ivi"" liel#74. Esq., Sidbury. nerV 9 ,:,. o• ~1 On the 16th inst., at Chaddesden, near -, aid , "jef" Brodhurst, Esq., of Woodhouse -place, near Mal . Clar to Anne, youngest daughter of the late Re' Worksop, in the same county. e' er ' , Pdes' D/ED. to ac ~,, h i On the 22d ult., at her residencet_Prospect-tves, t , sl if", Charlotte, the relict of the late Edward VI coig n ,c'y ti ll , ; cended paternally from the ancient famill",° o f Ite'bot' l , settled in Pembrokeshire during the rel 4 F i c toa 0 40 1 ,, Vllth ; and maternally from the Philipps, °L picOr At r -niece to the late Mrs. Waller, of Hall Diane', aunt t IV shire, and Farmington, Gloucestershire, and co, Cameron,'Dan y Graig, near Swansea. ger' jel 3 o f On the &I of March, at Toronto, in Canadltivel!ts goa wife of Captain G. Edward Aylmer, of the 93a yi d, tbi r t o On the 15th- inst., at Truro, Cornwall, Da of goo the Rev. Hugh Rogers, Rector of Camborne• vec tor " , r , On the 16th inst., the Rev. Francis 13est , "- on, 141.' Cel 131111 Dalton, near Beverley, Yorkshire . . On the 16th inst., at Cloudesley -terra Newman. _.----.iiiii -I ‘ l ll l, g uRDO. _ e . ;0.. o f London: Printed and Published r No. 112, Strand, Printer, ttt The $lO4 Of he c o pPlY in the Strand, in the Precinct of the SaYOY , --- litidclleaex, Saturday, April 20, 1844. • --- , , LLOYD'S SHIPPING. LOSS OE THE ZEPHYR. 4 4 ' 0 " Foreign-office, April 18, ~,„0 " Sir,--I am directed by the Earl of Aberetir, transmit to you, for the information of the Ch gl b fro° and Committee of Lloyd's, the copy of a disP at4 4l l) o ; her Majesty's Consul at Lisbon, announcing t'botl British brigantine Zephyr, William Reed, m aster , he o 4 from Trome to Malaga, was wrecked near I. the coast of Portugal, on the 25th ult. Po'll " I am, Sir, your obedient humble ser,,,ro (Signed) " H. U. ADDIS' " Wm. Dobson, Ea q.' 4 , (Copy.) " Lisbon, April 8, / 1 1 13 ri 4 li /11 " Sir,—l beg leave to acquaint you that the fro: i s brigantine Zephyr, William Reed, master, bou ti re c,l‘,, Trome to Malaga, with a cargo of coals, was %g o b 0 1 1 near Peniche, on the coast of Portugal, on the 2 0 10 3 The crew, nine in number, were all saved ; but t D oti' of the vessel, as well as the cargo, are totalplo. having only been possible to save the masts 0 ,11 " I have, &c. &c., yrk (Signed) " WM. SIN I • " John Bidewell, Esq., &c. &c.' " A Ar'A t° : [ADVERTISEMENT.] POST-OFFICE - -It A lt ig, t o o MENTS.—Worsdell's Vegetable Restorative 0, pared only by John Kaye, Esq., of Dalton o,t / he lil e : Huddersfield, hare now, arising solely from ' a d ,0 trinsic merits, attained the highest celebrity , j, come the most extensively established FamilY 905 of the present day: but as many parties, an% i°ti o oA taro this medicine, find great difficulty in doing s 'Agi to many country towns yet being without tl(lllffice: from whom it can be procured; to obviate this the proprietor has now made arrangements T y ijog i to persons, residing in any part of the United .: j ' e ctfr ee tl may be supplied with a single box, post free, olrfotict the Wholesale Depot, in London, by forwarcli e g,,. ei s , penny postage stamps ; or, for the larger boll , 44t . 1. , stamps, addressed—Kaye's Wholesale Depot , man-street, near the Bank, London. i fi at °. [ADVERTISEMENT.] H O L LOW AY'S OINTMENT.—A declaration was made at the re house, before the Lord Mayor, Sir ,),°-,; at ,er; by Richard Cloak, stoker, in the efer t) l,4o office of the Morning Advertiser daily l l ,' who declares, that for a considerable time he vi 7, - .Ae lti c or with ulcerated wounds on his ankles, which "la do f incapacitated him from attending to his duties. fo lio pi , sequence he was admitted an out-patient at the , 0 1110 institutions, Bartholomew's and King's Coll e iiine' t heti tals, and lastly at the Dispensary in Chanc el ; 11°111 without the least relief. Ile also declares the _di i v ; 1 ' used Holloway's Pills and Ointment, wh'S n l ia cured him, after every other means failed.--TOO 5, fessor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strap° re 5 .4(1. vice may he had gratis), and by almost el:e r ia Ivo; 00 able vendor of medicine throughout the civili se d: ie./ The following is a verbatim copy of the i l e _ o ffil,ier a letter received through the Nottingham P.,° 5 " 0 . " For Mr. Taylor at Nottinham a traviliPt' binn in the Harmey a Solger with all speed .' foro'olo Lord Adolphus Fitzclarence has arrived in en d 0 Lordship is expected to return to town at the present month. - Chef ' BIRTHS. wooP On the 7th inst., the lady of the Rev. Georg e , lain to her Majesty's Embassy at Vienna, of as ' la u On the 14th inst., at Burlington, 400, Prickett, Esq., of a son. x , of s o t On the 15th inst., at Snaresbrook, Mrs. J. Lf l , ll „ ° lag . 0 t .1 -Yorkshire, st ye On the 16th inst., at Peckham, Surrey, i" . " (1, Newnham, Mitford, Esq., of a son. won 0 0 On the 17th inst., the lady of George Di v.- ore , Regency-square, Brighton, of a son. et-e4 ll ib e On the 17th inst., at. Sidmouth-place, Reg! so n. „ o f lady of the Rev. J. W. Worthington, D.P., ofs lac) f On the 17th inst., at llemingby Rectory, t he .6 0C° Rev. George Thackeray, of a daughter. Lady, of On the 18th inst., at Grosvenor-stree t, Bence Jones, of a son. the On the 18th inst., at King's-parade, C helser4 the Rev. W. C. Le Breton, of a son. still -horn. dot TH C 'A WE °LOW ,The 44 , Ahin, a. Cards 'Nue It. Sto, The ta., Ti