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FATAJ AFFRAYatCUMBERLAND GATE ADJOURNED INQUEST ON RICHARD HONEY. . ELEVENTH DAY, SEPT. 5. The Jury assembled at theilop-pole, this day, at the hour.appointed by adjournment. The FOREMAN presented to the Coroner a let ter which he had received, and complained of its contents, but refused to read it out according to the request of the Jury. The CORONER said, they had enough to do to attend to their oWnbusinesS,and'uo further com ment was made upon , the letter. The CORONER the stated that he had just re ceived all anonymous letter, desiring that Theo philus Desprisay, Esq. of 21, Adam-street, West Edgeware-road, might be summoned before the Inquest.—[This communication being anonymous, the Jury did not consider it worth attention.] John Curtis . was 'then sworn and examined - .-- I reside in the Almonry, Westminster ;* I arh a Gentleman ; was in the inside of the Park - on the 14th ; when the hearSe went through ; 1 was in the inside of Cumberland-gate, when they broke down 'the wall ; I WaS'' . very near it. When the hearse went throUgh the gate, 1 heard a great 'noise . , and 'I saw soldiers ridiog backwards and forwards: very hard amongst the people. I stood nearly opposite to 243 ; 1 heard a pistol, - and sa,l,v smoke directly opposite me. -I was in the Park; I was standing rather to the left of the gate ; they fired several times after. After the crowd had partly gone away, I went through the gate ; I did not go before; because I did not like to go into a . crowd.--(This witness was going on with —some. irrelevant evidence, when it was noticed that he had been previously examined.) Mr.- ADOLPHUS said; he never-beard of a wit ness coming before a Jury a second time, alter having before sworn to tell the whole truth of what he knew .concerning.the matter into which they we r e inquiring., It, was,. indeed, saying, that he : did.not tell the whole.truth, and thereby falsify ing his oath.. . _ Some of the Jury inquired when he had been before the Inquest ?- Mr. Adolphus—lt is The very man of whom Mr. Waithipan said, 'a If he comes here to trifle with tile Jury, I do not ;" and he was then tent abont his business. The Witness said, when he came before they would not hear him out. After some further conversation, the Witness was' ordered to withdraw. Mr. Adolphus inquired whetheia there siete any more wit nesses summoned on the part - of the crown, or any who wiShed w zive yoluttary testimony. Mi. Blakie said' thithe had received scveralletters from in dividuals which were not anonymaus, and who considered that they could give materiel evidence touching the death of the de ceaaed. - It was certainly desirable that ail material :evidence should be received while any doubt existed.. Mr. Adolphus thought such witnesses might easily be pro cured and examined before he went into his'case. The Coroner thought it would be better to adjourn until these witnesses were ready. Mr. Adolphus said that at any rate a list of tnose witnesses ought to be given who were intended to be ca ll ed . • • Ala Blakie said, that withregard to the trumpeter, the Jury were not yet satisfied that they had had the right man before them. He held in his hand a letter from a aentleman, and frohi what he stated therein, it was quite impossible that either of the men who had been examined, could have been the one out on the occasion in question. Mr. Adolphus--Then you can have the m whole eight trum peters of the regiment, and every'one of the usiciana, by send= ing for them, as you could have done at aay tiine. You have the oadls-of several persons. that the two men who have been before you were the men on duty, ' ' •" • Several of the - Jury - said—" We know they have sworn it." : Mr. Adolphus—Then what respect do you. chew your own oaths to be deserving of, when you will not bell•::ve the oaths of others, because they are contradicted by an anonymous writer: Mr. Blakie—He is not Anonymous. Mr Adolphus—You do not give his name, and a man Nyith out a name is anonymous. Why do you not give his name into Court ? • Mr. Blakie—l shall not give his name to you : I have it in my hand for the inspection of my brother Jurors. Mr:Adolphus--Then let it be understood that Mr. Blakie refuses to give the name of his witness. Is the person in at tendance ? • The question was answered in the negative. Mr. Malik said that the Gentleman had 'promised to be there at four o'clock. Mr. Adolphus—Then at four o'clock you - can have every' trumpeter, and every man in the regiment that ever blew a trumpet, drawn up either. here or in the Barracks for his' in spect:ma. . There is, as there always has been, the very revarse of any wish for concealment. The Foreman and some of the Jury expressed their - doubts of the latter fact. • Mr. Adolpbus—Nobody cares for your doubts. Your doubts arc not worth a farthing. This altercation was continued for some time, attended with great confusion ; during 'which Mr. Blakieen;de use of sonic observations of a very personal and offensive nature• towards Mr. Adolphus.—That Gentleman stated, that when the proper time arrived at which he . should liaire to mention the proceed ings of that Jury, he should doubtless know how to speak of them. [Previous to this Lieutenant Gore had entered the room, and taken a seat amongst the Gentlemen attending the' Inquest for the Public Press.' Mr. Adolphus then asked if Mr. Spratt and Mr. King Were in att aidance, in order that they might brOught to'see if they could swear' positively to Lieutlore as being the person who shot Honey. A Mr. 'Heywood here rose, and protested, on the part of the deceased's relatives, against the pioceeding• now proposed by Mr. Adolnhns. Mr. Aelolphua said, that it was time to make the objection when the witness was introduced. After some dine had elapsed, John King was brought in, and Mr. ffeywood's objection being repeated; it was over-ruled by the Coroner. , , %Ir. Gore was writing at this period, and being, as we have already said, seated 'ai the table with the Gentlemen of the Press, the Foreman. : proposed, " That a certain peraan.theti in the room should leave off writing." Mr. Adolphus—" Oh, there is no occa sion fo'r that: Lieut. Gore stand up.", • • • , . Lieutenant. Gore immediately rose,• and looked steadfastly; but calmly, upon the witness. . Examined by Mr. Blakie.—l have had'no one call upon me since I was examined, to talk - with me upon the subject of my evidence. By the Coroher.—That is the Gentleman (meaning Lieuee pant Cote) whom I saw diseharge the pistol,' - the contents of • which I did not know whether he intended forroe.or for Honey. Haney felhapon the discharge., of .the pistol. That is the ,gen ' tleman whom I saw at . the 'Horse Guarda on Simday *the' Mil; that being the Sunday after the Queen's furierali • This , watalie ' gentleman that I saw sitting in the parlour of• the New e l: n, through the window, and whom I. alluded to hi my evidence viheril last attended this inquest: ' - ' • William Spratt was then brought iti; • • •• ' • • . Exainined by. Mr. Adolphus—You were examined, I think before this Inquest on Friday evening last ?--I was. You 'gave evidence then'concerhing a person going ifab 'arid coming out of the. housea- • • • . .• Mr. Blakie—Has any person been with you since that time. talking upon the subject of your evidence ?—I met a BOW street officer, who would have fished me a • bit; but he could notcatch any. Foreman—lle would have caught a spratt'if he did: - -• - Lieutenant Gore - stood - That is the gentleman alluded to in My' evidetiCe as the 'per sSa Naha shot Honey. This IS ofle of the two at which' Fstopped .at. the inspection. .It was the other gentlemanathat had: his cheeks panned. I was starved almost tq death at the ,Barracksa I was from ten in the morning to eight at night without When was there I 'saw' gentlemattpaas in and out of' the stable, and said, diat !lithe man. - This is the samegentlemari. The Bow-street officer asked me to p in and drink with hinl, but r said Iliad.= inoney, and I did not like 'to drink vrith l udt paying my share. a I don't know him,• , bett a know he‘is a Boat street officer, because I saw biro at the Barrack. • . • Samuel Green , examined by Mr. Adolphtai—l was examined sat Friday. I alluded to some one whom I saw coming in at • the deor of the New Ina. :i.letitenant dore here stood up. 'inat is the man who shot Richard Honey in my presence. • By Mr. Browne--I , ince my last evidence no, one has talked to me relative to thlih evidence. • (laving finished his evidence, the witness muttered, " I un derstanit I am to be. transported ; if it is to a better place 1 don't care how soon." . . Brea Page examined-I was here last Friday, 'but was not called ; I did not attend at the liarrickS when the regiment was drawn out. When I was.examined before, I said I could not swear to any one in particular at that time; I have recog nized within myself, and I thirik.l can ; I cannot say that 1 should know him in coloured clothes, but on horseback, and in -uniform; as I Then saw 'him, I think should. • A Juror-A serious thing this to swear. I know it. By the Foreman-I have not. hadany conversation snce last Friday with anyone respecting the death of Richard Honey.. The Foreman-Rise up, and, without confusing .youeself, 'look round the room, and tell.us whether; among those who are . here assembled, you seethe person Who fired the pistol on the 14th ?-hThe witness : (pointing to Lieutenant Gore) that's the gentleman; but I won't swear to him in these, clothes. By Mr. Blakie---Did you see him . chnie info the house to'. day,?-I did ;no one pointed him out to me ; I saw him like wise last Friday, corning from Cumberland-street .towards the New . .lnn; I was alone then • I recollect saying to myself, " that's the gentleman who fired thefirst pistol ;" did not see any other officer there on the spot at the time. - ,Mr. Adolphus-I am a furniture polisher, and a master for myself. The situation which I occupied at the time of my Seeing the pistol 'fired, was jitst above Sir Win: Manner's house, towards St. Giles's. • I was about sixty yard s from the _spot where Richard .Honey was shot; there was a great .deal more firing after the officer fired ; it was at the beginning that I saht the officer fire. Mr. Adolphus here. was beginning to read to the wittiest some extracts from the short-hand noteshf his first deposition, when he was interrupted by • . The Foreman, who said, that as he knew nothing of Mr.' Adolphus's notes, he should insist that the deposition which had. been signed and sworn. to by, the witness; should be read to him. • Mr. Adolphus -I am examining the witness,. touching his recollection, of what he deposed to on a former occasion, and I think it extremely improper for any Juryman to interfere with my examination. The Foreman-And tconteod that it is extremely irregular for Mr. Adolphus to examine any witness from his own notes. Mr. Brown-We have made the objection before to no pur pose, and therefore we again repeat it, Mr. Coroner - , that it'it is your opinion, it is ours likewise, that. Mr. Adolphus has no right to be herdat all, for the purpose of examining witnesses. Mr. Adolphus--My right - to sit here has already been ac knowledged by the Coronereand I have a right to examine any witness, and ask him,questions, whether from a written memo random or not. The Coroner-If the witness has said any thing contradictory . he has a right to explain' it, and that is all that Mr. Adolphus is doing. . Mr. Adolphus-Did you or. did you not say, that in-conse quence of the wet, the dirt, and the crowd, you did not think you would be able to know again any particular person ?. Here some confusion ensued, owim' to several of the jurors loudly protesting against thisstyle of examination. Mr. Adolphus-Was there ever known an instance of a e iu s ryman interrupting•an examination by counsel ? • Mr: Brown-And was it ever known that a counsel inter rupted the examination by a juryman ? twill refer -to. a gen. tleman whose opinion I value-" Pray does Mr. Spicer know of such Ain instance; fort will not take any other man's opinion." Mr. Spicer-Yes, I do. The Foremann h -The fact is, Mr. Coroner, it . seems, from some cause or other, that every right which we possess as jury men is wrests from J.lB. . , Mr. Brown-h• Let us have our birthright, we ask for no more. The Foreman-1 must again suggest, that it would be more decorous if Mr. Adolphus were to read from the original depo . sition.. Mr. Brown-I understand just as much of what Mr. Adol phus says upon this subject as I did abOut the American Inter course Bill. Mr. Blakie-I most beg to remind you, Mr.., Coroner, of what you said on a former_ occasion, that i f we were to go over the examination of the evidence which has -been admitted, we may go on without end ; this we are doing, especially as mr. Adolphus is adopting the form of cross-examination, which I do most seriously protest against. • A Juror-There is a matenal differenee between us, Mr. Adolphus is paid for his time being taken up, we are not. filr. Adolphus repeated his cfnestion. The Witness-I must beg leave to addresi the Jury.' Mr. Adolphus-I will thank you to answer me, Sir.- Witness-1f the Gentlemen of the Jury please to ask me any questions I shall answer thetas, but as this Gentleman, Mr. Adolphus, is not one of the Jury, I do not mean to answer- his eniestion. ' Mr. Adolphus-The Coroner has over-ruled the objection which was made to my eXamining . a witness, and I shall be glad to knoW Who . it is' that sets himself up to dispute that right. I ask the witness whether he did not say " I had though to do to take care of myself, without locking at other people ?"• Witness-If you are not a Juror I cannot answer you. Mr. Adolphus-Repeated the question. The Foreruari-,Ue has sworn to it. Mr. Adolphus-I don't care for that. The Coroner having referred to the original deposition, found it stated that the witness should not know the person who fired the pistol without assigning any Motive. Mr. Adolphush-Did you say " that.' took, care of myself as well as 1 could ?"-1 did. Did you say, that it was hardly possible, situated as I was, to swear to the man ?-I was not able to take the marks of one man. Mr. Biown-I do hope this examination may be put an end to ' • I feel for Lieut. Gore's situation, and hope thathe May be allowed 'to depart. A Juror-You seemed to.study Lieut. Gore's feelings a good deal the other day, Mr.- Brown., Mr. Brown-Why, I am very, plain in my dealings, • and though I have not so much cunning as common sense, yet my opinion is, that an ounce of sense is worth a pound of cunning. Juror-,--And my opinion is, that an ounce of honesty is worth a pound of both ; -and I think it necessary to put that gentle . man (Mr. Brown) in mind of it.' The Coroner-hlinsist upon it,. Gentlemen, that you behave yourselves, or it may be necessary to turn you out of the room. 'This is more like a bear garden, than an intinesh - • The Witness here proposed to-address the Jury, and to state that it was. not die ill-usage which he had received in h he army which induced him to give evidence against the life of . a sol dier, although he certainly had been unjustly punished in his regiment. . Ile was here interrupted, and, the examination was continued. I did not go to Knightsbridge Barracks ; I knew that the in spection was to take placeebut I was not summoned. • - • 'Mr. Adolphus-DO-you know a Mr. Baker? The Forenuan-I recommend the witness not to answer that question. • Witness-I do not. • • Mr. Adolphus-Do you know 'either Mr. or Mrs. Baker, upholsterers ? . • Witness-No, I do not know any thing of them. Mr. Brown-My gekochfriende Mr. Adolphus. ' • Mr. Adolphus-Don't good friend me, Sir ; I know no good friends here. . • . • Mr. Brown-Yes ; but you are if, I like it. ' Mr. AdolphuS-I do claim for-myself the .privilege of asking any questions of-a witness relative to a former deposition, either from my own or. other persons' memorartdums. A Gentle Man here has talked about my receiving 'twenty guineas a day for being here. • 1 -will -make ,no cerunnents on the truth of that Gentleman's remark, but I will affirm that I wouldnot take 20 guineas per minute to remain hi his Company. • Mr. Brown--The witness has no right to criminate himself. The FOrenian-Mr. Adolphus will deny any thing. Mr. Adolphos- e And, you,-Sir, will affirrn any thing. Mr. Magee.-The fact is, Mr. Coroner, I cannot consider the presence of Mr. Adolphus here in any other light than as a corn upon- the foot, which is continually rankling and irritating the tender flesh till it is eradicated. - , Adolphus-"Cis best not to touch such tender flesh. On the deposition being again read over to the witness, he wished that in place of, " He was the first man who fired," the words" lie was the first man that 1 saw firs'," should be sub _stitirteel. This having been done he withdrew. The Foreman-It has just been stated that some of : the wit nesses have not arrived,. Ido not See, howeveT; why .we should 'rot Proceed . ; and I hope Mr. Adolphus will go on with ins wituesses. • Mr. ,Adolphus-4 have not yet examined any witnesses. I have only re-examined some of yours. - - - • - - .The toreintuiL-WhoSuinnioned the Witnesses ? :Mr. ,Adolphus-1 did. .The Foreman-Then I should have thought that if you sum moned fined; and examined them, they were your witnesses: • The' Cohoner having 'proposed adjourning to an earlier hotir on sorcieother day, some of *Jurors propoed. that Lieutenant Gore should attend. " Mr. AdOlphuksaid, that on . a former day it had been ar iinged.that LieuteGore should, attend• on, the present. day; and now it was proposed to ,postpone his attendance to another day. At the same time, he wished' it to be understood that when' he had consented that Mr. Gore should appear at this Inquest, he waShiot aware that be hathbeensubjected to .a previous exami ; ins . tion s , or he certainly would, not have consented to his re-exa mination., He thitletsiond • that there Was then beleisi a ' . Mr. Jones, who on a prior examination swore that he saw Richard HOney'ahcit ; he therefore thought it right .tnat he should -be up to sce whether - he could recognize . any one among them as•having tired the shot. • • The Foreman—This is your witness, Mr. Adolphus, I pre sume Adolphus—HeiS not mine, or any one's, as l have just requested of the Coroner that he should examine the witness. .AVlLeraat DELOUAINE JONES. • By the Coroner.—llas been examined before as to the iden tity of the person who shot Richard Honey ; could identify the person whom he saw On that occasion. The Coroner---Look about this room, and see if you recog nize any person's. face here. The Witness having looked around without recognizing any one, • The Coroner desired Lieut. Goreto stand up, and Jones was asked if that was the man ?—lie immediately replied—" This is not the person that I sal. This Gentleman - has dark hair, whereas the person to whom I allude had light sandy-coloured hair and whiskers, not large, and of a colour between red and sandy." By Mr. Blakie—l was - snminonetl yesterday, but do not know, who sent me the Summons, which was signed Pyal. I do not know for what purpose I am summoned, except from ru mour. I have not had communication with any one respecting the transactions of the 14th. Lieut. Gore, on his departure when, the Jury adjourned •to take refreshment, was followed by a crowd of persons who had collected about the street door, who continued to insult him' by the most outrageous hooting and yelling, and every indignity short of personal•asaault; Many wretches were heard to threaten him with violence. , Mr. Blakie wished to ask Lieut. Gore a few questions, if the Learned Gentleman near would admitthat he had a right to do so. Mr. Adolphus had no Objection. He was not one of those who objected to questions being put, provided they were pro per ones. Mr. Blakie said he wished to ask no improper questions. The Coroner hoped none such would be asked. Knew Lieutenant Hall ; he (Lieut. Hall) was on 'duty on the 14th ; he was with his detachment in Oxford-street. He re tracted his. last answer. He concluded that Lieut. Hall was there ; he saw his detachment there, but did not see Lieut. Hall himself; 'to the best of his recollection, at any time in the course of:that day in Oxford-street. Q. You said in your former evidence, that - you could not re collect whether you were on duty at the Horse Guards on the 19th or not; do you now recolleet , ?—A. No; Sir, I do not. Examined by Air. Adolphuss--By the 19th of August, we understand the Sunday after the Queen's funeral. Do you re collect whether you were there or - ncit should think not; for being Sunday, and going to-church; and other circumstances, should have recollected it. If then in, your uniform and on duty, would that appear by the orderly book ?.-Yes, Sir. In answer to other questions, he could not state whether his reginent had been relieved by the Blues since. He could not recollect when lie was last on duty but by referring tb the or derly book. Remembered the 21st, when the troops- were in spected. He was there, and was inspected among the rest. Did any man on that day put paint or colour on his cheeks ? —I consider the question an insult to the regiMent. You will not consider it an insult front Me. Did any man paint or put colour on his che•eks?—l did not, nor did I see any other person that did. By 31r. - Blakie—The Guards went on duty at half-past ten would not going on duty then, be relieved before church time • they were relieved at half-past eleven ; they, marched at half: past ten to relieve at eleven,• and it was generally very near twelve before they could get back to the barracks. By. the Foreman—Did you carry any pistols on that day ? That question has been aalfed so often, .that I must decline -answering now. - By Jurors—Did not see Lieutenants Storey and Terry with their detachments ?—I saw Lieutenant Storey pass near Cum berland-late, in the general scene, of confusion, for a few mo ments—&d not see Lieutenant Terry: The Foreman desired that,the question which he had asked, " Whether Lieut. Gore had pistols with him on the 14th, might be taken down?" 31r. Adolphus said, the witness replied to it, that he had been asked the question so often, that he must decline answering it. The Foreman . pre,ssed the question. Mr. Adolphus Said, the shortest way would be, to answer it again. Witness---NO, I had not, -• By Jurors—Saw Captain' Oakes and his detachment in Ox ford-street —The detachment was halted,- Captain Oakes gave no orders at that,time ; did not speak to his knowledge. By Mr. Brown—Did you see Captain Oakes fire ?—I told you in my former evidence., I don't care what you answered then ; I ask you now, did you see Captain Oakes tire ? Mr. Adolphus said, the witness had begun _his answer in a very proper manner. Mr. Brown—We can do without your leading-strings here ; you are a very good nurses: but your assistance is not wanted. Mr. Adolphus replied,' the witness had. spoke from his own feelings, and if he were him he would begin in no other.way. Did you see Lieut. Storey fire ?—Lieut. Storey has been exa mined on his oath. • . I I ask you if you saw-him fire ?—I saw him pass, but did not see him tire. _ . Mr. Brown said, he had asked these questions of his own mind ; he had his reasons for putting them. Mr. Adolphus said, very well; he did not come there to ana lyse his mind., . The Foreman asked who summoned the-witness Jones, and was told Mr. Henson. • . Mr. Adolphus inquired, and what of that ? - The Foreman said, ,ikfullowed that Jones was their witness. Mr. AdolplitiS denied that, and explained the rule of Court under which the witness on one Side was held to beconie a wit ness on the other. . • • Mr;Brown—Then it seems that neither side will own this witness. Mr. Adolphus—lf neither side will own him, the disgrace, if any, must rest with those who brought him forward, Several Jurors denied that there , was any disgrace in the business. BARTITOLOWEW CRONEY sworn. By the Coroner—Saw - an . officer draw his pistol and fire' at Richard Honey—the, than that he saw shot': As he had said before, if he had seen the Officer as he saw him on that' day, he thought he could have sworn ; being told to look round and see if he perceived the person there, he did not recognise any one. ,Lieut. Gore was then:desired to stand up. Witness said be had not seen him• before ;. the man he had. seen who.spoke to Sir R. Baker was a thinnish man, and wore a Waterloo medal ; he had never seen Lieut. Gore in regimen tals that he knew of. ' • - • A gentleman in the rcioni said the first answer of the witness was, that he had never seen Lieutenant Gore before. .4Slr. - Blakie asked the Gentleman's . name. " The strailger said that rwas of no importance. - Some of the JurorS objected his'interference. The Stranger contended that he had a right to supply an omission, and that any.hy-stander was at liberty to correct a -, • mistake. • Mr. Brown said the Jury were not deficient. The answer alluded to was lost. It had been observed upon among them. The attention of the - witness was then - directed to Lieutenant Gore again, and he declared that he had never seen him before, to his knowledge. - • • Several Jurymen remarked, -" He cannot sty." The Jury having returned, - Mr. Blakie observed, that from inquiry of Mr. Pyall, the at tendant constable, it appeared:that ,a witness on the part of the Crown had been sent for, who could speak:to the identity of the man who shot honey, hom he said.he would know as well as his own' mother. This witness alas expected every minute,. and it : would be well to wait for him,. This suggestion was adopted, ,and the Jury were for some time unemployed. At this moment considerable uproar proceeding from the .street was heard in the room, and' it was reported that the po pulace were ill-treating Lieut. Gore on his' return - to the in quest. That Officer ;shortly afterwards entered the room, and in reply to the inquiries of the Jurors, stated that -he had es caped without personal injury. Jr is Le, in justice to the Gen tlemen of the Jury, to state that 'the utmost indignation was unanimously expressed. at this Conduct .of the persons out of doors, and Lieutenant, Gore was assured that directions sh oul d be given to the Police Officers. in attendance, to use their best exertions td prevent his•being insulted for.the , future... After Waiting for about a quarter of au hour, Mr. Blakie in formed.3lr. Adolphus that it was not intended to produce any more witnesses for the Crown.for the present. . Mr. Spicer obscried, he was happy to hear this, as the treat ment the witnesses received shelved it was high, time to adopt that course. Mr. Adolphus.here said, that. he would briefly state to the .Jury the course' he intended to pur sue with regard to his witnesses. He intended in the first placeio prove that the tumult began on the part of the mob, -and not with the sol-- diery who 1 he would prove, chewed n o disposi tion to acts,of violence till after they had been assaulted. 'So much for the general' transactions of the day. He intended also to 'prove with respect to one . witness, Spratt, . who -said he "had stopped befOre two Officers at the in spection of the * Life Guards, that •neither of those Officers was Lieutenant 'Gore. lie would also produce the two Officers, to prove that neither'of them were painted or the oc- casion, as had been stated. With respect to another witness (King) he meant also to prove by the ordeyly 7 book, that Lieut. Gore did not .mount guard on either of the days he had sworn to have seen him at the Horse Guards. He did not make this communication in the shape of a formal speech, but merely with a view to put the Jury in possession of his object, in order that they need not be under the necessity of asking what each witness was called to prove. • Mr. Brown—That is very fair. After a short pause, Mr. Adolphus's first wit ness, George Avis, way sworn, and deposed as follows :—I live at No. 1, Merchant's Hall-place, Skinner-street; London ; I am a tailor tly busi ness, and one of the police-officers of Bow-street; on the 14th of August, the day of the Queen's fun -ral, I was stationed near Tyburn-gate with a party of officers ; in the course of the morning moved from there to Hyde Park-gate ; at that time the hearse had bee❑ turned up towards the Park-gate ; Ashen it turned into the Park,there were some Life Guards and . Oxford Blues with it ~.at that time the mob were hissing and groan ing, calling out " Murder," and " Piccadilly Butchers ;" this applied to them all ; I saw no distinction made ; I came up along side he hearse as far as Grosvenor-gate. A • party of Life Guards was , then stationed opposite the gate in the Park ; the mob was very thick in Park-lane, and a great number of stones were throwing, which I saw hit the. helmets of the - Life Guards and _bound off; at this time the soldiers had done nothing, by ac or gesture, in my sight, to give them cause to treat them so. The soldiers did not at Grosvenor- gate, in my sight or hearing, charge the people, fire, or move from their ranks, in cuUsequence of their treatment. I witnessed all this in passing by u p to Cumberland-gate. I and my party then hastened on. We got to Cumberland-gute'some minutes before the,hearse. When we got there, here were ten or twelve Life Guards on the two sides of the gates. The' people ‘Vere there i vast numbers coming,in from all quarters. The military were 'perfectly quiet...Oen I came up. As the hearse approached, I observed the mob shut the gates, which were open befo're, to pre vent the hearse coming through. I and my party with the assistance of . the soldiers, foreed the 'gates open again. The mob then forced the left hand gate - to again ; I remonstrated, desiring them the leave the gate alone, and again - opened- the gate ; the hearse then approached the gate with a Magistrate at the head of the horse ; the Mavis trate was Mr. White, of Queen-square Office ; the hearse got through and crossed into the road ; four or five men attempted to - turn the horses heads down Oxford-street; at that period the mob began to throw stones upon us• from all di rections ; Mr. White, with the assistance of two or three of the Life Guards, turned the horses l heads back towards Tyburn Turnpike ; after a lapse of two or three minutes Jhey proceeded on, and the stones and brickbats at that time were thrown more furiously than ever ; I saw the mob break some flag pavement stones Which atthe corner of Cumberland-street. A genteel looking man, dressed in blaCk, with umbrella in his hand, threW one Of ,these pieces, and knocked a Life . Guardsman off — his = horse - with it.• The horse went towards-Vylidfn-' 7 gate,' and the • man got up to folloW it. Some - of the mob 'cried .out, Murder 'him ';" and others said, ".No, let the b--;-- - go;" I turned my face to wards TyburitigatO, and I 'received ti violent .blow on the. back part of my head. The mark still remains on my hat. I 'Was stunned for . the moment, and' - When I recovered myself, I 'pio cee&d towards Tyburn-gate. Before that I took stones out of the hands of several persons, and begged them to be quiet: After I turne=d towards Tyburu-gate, I did not see any more stones thrown, nor - did I take any from any per sons. From the period of the hearse coming from Cumberland , gate to Tyburn-gate, it might be about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour.--- Durinft that time the military struck the people with the flat parts of their swords, after they had been pelted for some time... I think the lives of the soldiers were in danger, because I saw them . cut about the head and temples with Stones and brickbats, and bleeding, and all over blood. — They were cruelly used. After I. had received; my bloW I heard firing. There was an obstruc tion at Tyburn-gate, across Edgeware-road, made by an old turnpike-gate„ a wagon, and some posts which had been pulled up. I knew they were pulled up, because the dirt was at the bottOm - ef them. The first firing. f heard' was from Tyburn-gate; at that time I saw the Life Guards in Edg,eware-road, who had cell - toyed , the obstruction ; they had got over the obstruction .; they were filing off towards the toll-house and firing as they in ; they fired in the - air 'in the direction of Bayswater ; the 'Life Guards went up Edgeware-road as far as Bayswater, and. then . returned. No more force was used to get open the gates than was necessary. I myself called' a soldier to assist in the opening. • Cross-examined by time Jurors.----I cannot say the mob called out " Piccadilly Butchers", at the time the Guards were in Piccadilly, it was in the Park ; I did not see the hearse turned in Picca-• dilly; I was not near Hamilton-place; I do not know who opened tire - gates at Piccadilly . ; we had our truncheons that day ; I did not see any of our party strike the mob ; we gave them the best of words and begged them to desist, as they would otherwise endanger their 'own lives and other 'people also ; no doubt some of the mob were struck by stones ; 1 saw some of the people on horseback struck as well as those- tan foot ; I attended the-procession as far as about ten feet from the. Piccadilly gate ; tine proces sion then went on; I saw it myself close by the Duke Of Wellington's" house ; I did not attend the . procession further, because I was sta tioned elsewhere under the orders of Sir It. Baker ; we were to - fall in with the -procession at Piccadilly ; we followed the procession .as far as Temple-bar ;I do not know by whose or - - ders the procession went through the Park;. I saw a Magistrate who 'apparently had the corn, mend; but I do not know his name ; the soldiers went as fast as the' hearse ; at about a trot ; as I proceeded through the Park with the soldiers 1 did not see any persOn: 'rode over by therr;_ I - might 'be 'at Cumberland-gate about five or six minutes before the hearse came . up ; I saw an • Officer commanding the detachment which was then there ; there was about 'ten .or twelve sot= • Biers ; I do not recollect - seeing a trumpeter there: 1 did- not hear the soldiers ask the people whether they were the gatekeepers. Mr. White, of Queen-square, who headed: the procession, 'was in plain clothes, mounted on . a Life Guards man's horse; 1- 4 43 was at the fore horse of the hearse when it passed,through CumberlandZgate; at that time_ no firing had taken place. After 'the hearse had been turned and stones had been thrown, the soldiers began to use. their swords ; 1 did not hear Mr. White tell them to desist ; I did not hear the Riot Act read. The stones were principally •thrown at that part of Oxford-street, between Park-lane and Cumberland-street. The 'stones I saw were flag stones, they were broken by the people ; the stones were.there for the pur pose of paving the Streets. When I saw the per son throwinc& the stones at the soldiers, I con ceived it tohe my duty to . apprehend him, but __l think I shOUld have got murdered- had I attempt ed it. I saw a hoi-se bleeding at Cumberland gate, but I did not see his throat cut ; he was certainly bleeding -it the throat. I saw- no, per son but the soldiers with any sharp instru- - - Mew. The hearse was standing when the soldiers fired into the air. The hearse had not then passed the blockade. I will swear that I have not . undergene any examination touching this bqsiness before to-night. By Mr. AdOlplkus.-1 ha . ve been with Mr. Henson, to communicate with him. I was ordered to come here. By Jiirois.—lt was, upon the second attempt to open the gate, that we called in the soldiers to assist us. I broke my truncheon in the at' tempt to Wrench open - the gate ; I saw no man shot ; I did not see any officer fire. At the time I asked the soldier to assist in opening the g ate, no stones had been thrown at Cumberland-gate . He caught hold' of the gate with his hand wbilF he was on horseback. A Juror said, perhaps the mob had a right to shut the gate. Adolphus.—Surely, Sir, you do not ad vance that as a serious proposition ; I think it shameful that a housekeeper should make such an' observation. Juror.—l •am so used to be bespattered wit h dirt, that Ido not regard it now. • Examination resutned.-L-I did not see stone throwing at the time of the commencement of t he , firing ; they had been thrown before : I do net know that.they had ceased to throw ; I did not see any thrown just then.; I cannot say w hethe r the lives of the soldiers were in danger at th e time of the firing: There were four parties of v r ns In my party at the gate there were four or ne persons ; it was Mr. Birnie that sent me to 'Mr' Henson's ; 1 was not examined by Mr. Birnie' he desired me to. go to Mr. Hensou, and tell hip` what I knew about it. 1 went to Mr. Birnie voluntarily ; I had seen a man taking an activ e p art in the riot, and I wished to have him apprehend ed ' Mr. Adolphus objected to - this line of ex a ms'' ation, which he said tended to crimi n a te p er Flo not before the Court, upon a subject not writ" Ina the scope -of the present inquiry " The objection was• allowed, and the-exar n - tion proceeded upon another point. 1 went to Mr. Henson's office ; I was not e ' : mined at the barracks ; I have not been in ill`t: these 12 months; I was not examined. at George's Hospital ; I have been two years resia my situation at Bow-street ; in my pres ent vo lt. 'deuce at Commertial Hall-lace I hav e ' L i pi about four years ;lam a lodger; have lived ;.. time parish 1,4 years; I lived in Kino's 0 a yard about, or more than four years, am 1.0. e, years at a hair-dresser's, the corner of Ge ° fore yard, Snow-hill. The firing commenced be,.. I got to the gate—,l mean here, Tyburn-gate .a 3 , The former part of the witness's evidence the next referred .to, when it appeared that O r yb i c h word " gate," . •he meant Tyburn-gate, at the firing had commenced before his ar riv a l , ark By Mr. Hayward.—l went through the ro of . by the side of the procession. There Were to; persons in the Park. Notwithstandingi to crowd, 1.-arrived at the, gate-five or six- in t qti o• o lf before the hearse. The hearse went at a tr`: s - t he part of die time. When it 'came towar(Lreat Riding School, it ceased trotting. It wenttrit'nuer.. a - Walking pace. We ran very fast to L' u re the land-gate„ and therefore got there bell' hearse. hd r e The witness ; signed hiS deposition an d w ' t • A Juror now observed, that as it was no w a 1-• past nine, it would he better to ad.l ° , u id 'be the. examination of another witness 5" tOauJ e " commenced, they would, not be able until eleven or twelve o'clock. ursel °li .Y Mr. Adolphus—Settle it among " my gentle, cousins, I have no wishes up eil subject ; and am perfectly willing •to g° Another Juror said, the question of aLli .vas _thaealli:u7r,l.l?le r of °lent • might depend • . Upon - the 'number Adolphus's witnesSes. • to onlY to examine, but they were to speak . ie se . Mr. Adolphus said, he had:five more Wit ne :;e part of his case. He might examine 60 ►wt e d altogether, if he pleased. re-. 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