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ti fie City of Landn, cnniPlaitting of the late pro f. against her Majesty, and praying her s::(yration to her constitutional rights and this motion of Mr. Alderman Woou, he petition was ordered to be printed. Mr. WILMITON 'presented a similar petition rv,m the intvabitauts of Beverly. Pe'titionets also "rayed that the House wo.ald take into its most te.ious consideration the decayed state-of trade, the depression anther wtaich. Agriculture la tioured.—Ortlered to be pritlted.- Sir W. Guist presented a petition from Stroud, G loucesterslare, signed by 3,400 persons; corn plaintng of the late proceedings against the Queen, and praying that her INiaosty be invest ed with all her constitutional rights and privi-: lesr - , as 'Queen Consort of these realms.—Or dered to•be printed.—Sir AV. G tft st 2iSQ present ed a similar petition, sig,ned by .WOO Inhabitants of Chipping Sodbury.—Ordered to be printed. THE 1L.1)01' GEORGE. Mr. C CALVERT moved for certain Palley* connected with ;nstroct ions given by thy Board of Exc;se,'ari,ing ont of the sciinre of the Avop . (:;eurge, klubert I;,.yee, master, James Lhier, owner. Mr. LUSHINRITON soegested that the Hein Member was unaware of the the ravers to which he hot a lluded atct: of the expeNce ;Wei their ',duct:cm wonld create. M. C. CALVERT said, that it the motion would !end to any ~.0,(1,..a.Ye rNr,ence, -he I;•itild certainty press it in Me present state of the country•, Hr had interettld Liaise!! in the ho.i.,ess, lecatts'e- it affected 'one of 1 is con.titusuts.—l'he Payers were ordered. Mr. I,Anwro.s . presented a petition from the Inhabitants of t-lateside, in the county of Dor l!am. He was aft aid, in the observations he was about to make, that he should incur the reproach hich the Noble Lord opposite had cast upon some ether Hon. Members. But however ill it may suit the couvenieuce of the Nat& Lord, he should better consult' the wishes of those who had ho noured hi:n witlitheir.confidence, than to neglect expressing his sentiments upon the subject Of the petition. He certainly hoped that it would claim, its due attenticrn from the House, and he only re. gretted that petitionshad been received with too little consideration and respect. The petitioners stated, and he fully concurred with them,that cer tain persons calling themselves the loyit c lists of, the country—(Cries of No, no! and Hear, hear !)--, The petition stated that such person's got up what they called Loyal Declarations in secret places, and accused. others of being hostile to the Government and to the institutions of the coutt. try; • He confessed that amongst themany amus ing - things which he heard from the Noble Lord the night before, nothing amused him so much as the declaration, that' these declarations express ed the genuine and real feelings of the country. It might be. very well. for the Noble Lord and his colleagues to think so—(Hear, hear, and a laugh !)—but those who' had seen the getieral ebullition of feeling which pervaded the whole country; knew well that nineteen-twentieths of the people of England were engaged in Open hos • tility, not to the Throne, or to the C overnment, but to his Majesty's Ministers. ; —(Cheers from the Opposition.)—When (he Noble Lord had = said that the Lion was roused, he should not . have made the Lion's den to consist in a few Scotch counties.—(A prayed.to God that the object of the petitioners would ,be granted, for he t:elieved with them that the real and true cause of the irritation. which prevailed was the persecution of her Majesty ;. and that the resto ration of her full rights would alone restore peace to this country. Lord CA3TLEREACIf said, if the Hon. Member supposed that.. he bad any disposition, or that the House had any. disposition to treat Petitions li,ghtly, or with inattention, his conclusions were perfectly erroneous. The Hon, Member had put words into his (Lord Castlereagh's) mouth, which he certainly bad never - spoken, but.whicil it was ; ; however, quite . unnecessary that he should have spoken, for the effect of the Hon. Member's speech.—(A laugh.)—He had never uttered a word about this Lion, and was at a loss to conceive to what the Hon. Member referred. —(Loud laughter.) Mr. LAmwrom explained. He 'did not mean to say that the Noble Lord had himself made use Of the expressions; but he had seen them in a . newspaper which was connected with, and formed an ellicient part of; the Noble Lord's Administra: • tion.:---(lfear, bear ! from the Opposition.) .Mr. BENNETT (of Wiltshir..) present &a Pe' ti'on from the County of Wilts, praying that any proceedings against her *Wit:sty may be stopped; and her Majesty's name restored to the Liturgy. lle had 'been requested ,to suppoit the Petition by his constituents; but he_ did .so more from in clination than -in obedience to that request ; for he did not conceive himself bound to obey orders. He denied that-any thing.had been proved against her Majesty, and therefore. she was fully acquit ted-0 the eye of the law. Ile believed all par ties were agreed that it was high time that the discussion of this odious subject was Stopped--i-not only for the Queen's sake, but that the distresses of the. Country might be taken into consideration. There was not- a more loyal colfitY than the Coclnty of Wilts'in IlisMajesty's dominions. Ik implored Ministers, if th - ey had any regard for , th (;7own,as,no doubt they tiad ;-.--if they had any rd the . people ;—if theyhad any regard for.thernselves, to do all in their power to put a stop to.the question altogether.---•-19rdered to lie. •: on the Table and to be printed. • Sy.SON presented a Petition - :from • Great.Grimsby,iraying for -the insertion of her : Majesty:s name in the Liturgy , and the procuring ; ) f ira-su/table.reSidence. It appeared to him that ig : inisters...wonahaie best discharged their duty if, during the interval of the recess, they had .prevented the necessity of these petitions, by al lowing her Majesty's claims.—Ordeiced to be read, and laid on the Table. Ir.IIUME presented Petitions from the corporatedTraders and other Inl'abitantsOf Pt rb, Annan, Banff, and. two other Scotch Burghs, to the same effect.—Ordered to be read and laid on the Table. Mr. EsTcouax presented a similar Petition from ViTeS• Mr; Goanon said, that he had been requested by the. Petitioners. to. s u pport the prayer of the Petition ; for although ; Eire lion. Gentleman had consented to present it, they ex'Pectod 'he Wauld rather provoke opposition than give it his-support, That :ton. Member was returned by about a cloven Aldetalen, while the Petition was slguel by nearly 400 inhabitants. This was a complete illustration of whatthe Noble Lord had said last night about his possessing the confidence of the House and the People.—He had. the confidence of the corporatio, 'uct doubt ; but had he the confidence of the people of Devizes?—lie would ask the Noble Lord that question ? Mr. T. PuAase said, that ;Viten he had con sented to present the Petition, he had also stated his intention of opposing its sentiments. The ',Hon. Member had said- that these . 400 persons expressed the opinion 'of the town. This he' would deny..----(Hear!)—They were persons of no weight, and some of them scarcely known in the town.---:-(Loud cries of " Hear, hear !")—We understood the Hon-Member, that an Address was now in a course of signature at Devizes, which would be much, more numerously and ...____ . more respectably signed then the Petition which he had presented. Sir F. BURDETT considered this Borough re presented by a Mayor and twelve Aldermen, to be a , very fair specimen "of the state of public feeling. It was a'faVourahle one for the Mayor and 12 Aldermen, witorn the Hon.. Member repre sented so faithfullyand so well.--(A respect to what the Noble Lord had said last night, and explained since, he understood that all ulterior measures which might have been contem plated against the Queen, and that all proceed- . iugs against her whatever, bad been now given up. Ile was convinced that this must give grcat satisfaction to the country. Nothing would so ,coNpletely put a stop to all discussion upon the snbject, as such a declaration coming from the Prime Minister. And he (Sir F. 11.). did hope that no further expressions would be thrown out likely to lead to that discussion, which it was agreed en all hands ought to be avoided.- With respect to thrise persons who wished to pass of as the exclusively loyal, their conduct. had dis gusted those general feelings of justice which so . honOurably characterized the people of England. He. repeated his hope, that what the Noble Lord had said, would prevent all further discussion upon the subject, and that his Majesty would be advised, feeling as he was sure that Royal Per sonage must, for the peace and happiness of his people, and for the honour of his illustrious fa mily, to restore her M►►jesty to that station which she was destined to fill. Lord CASTLERE4GIS rose for the purpose of correcting a mistaken impression which seemed to be entertained. It appeared to be supposed, that when his Noble Colleague withdrew the Bill from the other House, that some intention of bringing for Ward another measure was contem plated, and that hi the intervening time such in tention had been withdrawn: He wished to state, that at the moment of the abandonment of the Bill, Ministers had determined to propose no other measure, and in that feeling they had re mained ever since. . Mr. J. PEARSE explained. He - was not in poin of fact elected by twelve; but by thirty-six per sons.--(Laughing.)—He was undoubtedly elect ed by 36 members of the Corporation, but he considered those individuals to be the represen tatives of the population.—(Bear, hearland that the interests of that population, and of the country, was his peculiar care. N.more loyal, a more respectable, and a more independent body of men than the corporation of Devizes,- did not exist. It was not, and it could not he proved, that they were to he biassed or bound by any un worthy'motiyes. • And as their. representative he felt that he was not only to watch over their interests, but also to guard _those-441--th* - ernplie at large,,—(cheers'.) sir. FRANCIS . liknor,TT explained. Lord C.‘STT.ERtAGII explained. Although be hail declared that no new measures had. been contemplated with regard to her Majesty, after the withdrawing - the Bill of Pains and Penal ties, yet it could not 'be understood to follow that het Majesty's name was to be restored to the Liturgy. Mr. 13tiouowut restated what he understood the Noble Lord to have said, and asked if it was meant that though no proceeding of the nature of punishment. wds to go on against her Majesty, there - was yet to he a continuation. of those inflic tions imposed previous to the charge being made, as if she had been convicted. Lord CAiTLEREAGii again objected to the an ticipation of a regularly appointed debate by,the form. of asking a queStion ; and, with regard to the insertion of the Queen's name in the Liturgy, deemed the inference of its being a punishment to pursue the course which his Majesty's Mini sters hid adviSedly adopted the first instance. Lord JoHN Rtissr.r.r, said a few words to the same purport Is the observations from 'Mr. Brougham.—(The Petition was thenbrought up, read, ordered to lie on the- table, and to. be printed.) Dr. LUSIIINGTON, in presenting a Petition of a similar nature friim certain' inhabitants -of H amster, took occasion to inveigh against the mode -in which Parliament had been prorogued, leaving her Majesty without any legal provision, and to contend that this was contrary to the de claration of the Noble Lord (Castlereagh.) Lord CASTLF.REAGIE absoltitely denied that he had ever said the House should meet to make a provision for the Queen, or should meet for any *pose other than for the discussion of the Bill Of Pains and Penalties, if it came down from the 'Lords. :This he could not have said, for it never entered 'into his contemplation, and if proof were wanted of the fact, it would be found in the call ' of the House being helot over• in ..notice for that purpose only, which it would not have been had 'any other important question been looked for. Lord FOLKSTONE argued for the possibility of the Noble Lord's having been understood as re presented by the Learned Civilian. He also thought that his,own character would have been more consulted 'by assembling the House to probe the charge of a conspiracy to the bottom, than by preventing others from coming to that inquiry, which involved in it an attack upon the principles of Hereditary Monarchy. ,After. a short explanation from Dr. Lushing.; to, the Petition was disposed of in the same;way with the preceding. Sir T. ACLAND presented two Petitions, pray ng tor the rest Oration . *Cie ,Queen Consort to her rights, from Axminster and Cullumpton,which were received, and ordered to be. printed. Mr. Alderman Ilt - voATE presented a similar Petition. from his 'o,ll . .stituents (of Sudbury), praying that her Majesty might be restored to her lawful rights, as Queen Consort of the realm, and that her Majesty's name alight be restored to the Liturgy. The Petition was not only res- pectably signed, but what was uncommon now-a days,it was couched in language which did not convey the slightest di*respect 'to that "House, or arty other of the constituted authorities. He professerd to have felt the strongest repug nance to the Bill of Pains and Penalties, and all the other proceedings against her Majesty ; on constitutional grounds he wag opposed to all those proceedings. He considered that the No ble Lord's declaration had rtrudered discussion on that topic unnecessary. He had deplored the ornisAion of her Majesty's name in the Li- turgy'; it had been made use of as a handle by those who cared not one farthing about the Li turgy, or' any other form of religion, to excite seditious "outcries agatnst the Government. It was one thing, however; to deplore the omission of the' name from the Liturgy, and another to support a petitionjor its restoration.—(Hear, hear !)—lie Gould not put out of his head the political conduCt which her Majesty had been iuduced to adopt, contrary to the advice of her very learned legal advisers. Hecould not for get, though the 11645 e and'hii Majesty's Minis ters might overlook it, that - she:had put her name to a letter, the colitents Or which, were not only unfit to address to a private gentleman, but comprised expressions which in his judg ment amounted to an offence nothin g short of treason, and no less subject to the punish ment of the ,laws. (Hear, hear, hear !) That letter had proposed it as a question for the decision of the people, how ; far they would be boand to obey the Bill of Pains and Penalties had it passed into a law ? There was also a direct invitation' to the military, that military whichwas paid by the House for the proteCtion - of the Constitution and the State, to interfere and pre vent the sentence of that Bill from being carried info .exerution.—(llear, hear, hear!)—lf the House„and his .Majesty's Miiiilters Were able, be was not to sit still and witness those things, so dangerous to the Constitution. All questions of party. politics. became as nothing to this. It lie came the House Well to reflect, before they went to pay honour and_ heap dignities on one who had run into such eacesses. lie could make great al lowances for the temper of - g mind suiFering un der such circumstances as those in which the Queen had been placed.' If the had used fretful and Improper languages Once or twice, be could have,forgiven it ; ,q,avhen used as it had been I more than five hue.. :lines, when it was vindi cated,over and ove" agala. it becime important, and the sense which the House had of such con duct ought to be 'manifested. He-acquitted her legal advisers,-who had in her defence aliewa such zeal and ability in apholdiag the Constitution, also of any participation in those violent and se ditious productions. But the 'Raise ought to pause and consider such thing, before paying honour,and bestowincconapliments ou the party , who had committed - theni.--(lle.ar, hear!)—lle begged pardon for' detaining the House: He wished all that had post to he sunk in entire ob livion,—(neas, hear, from he Opposition side.) —He wished the whole strbjeCt to be tN-ated in futUre only accordiet. toffs real' iMportance. The attentiottof Pirliament ought to be absorbed' `by the distfesses of the various interests, corn mercial and agricultural, and alterations ought to take place in both systems, so as to prevent this country from longer remaining the ridicule of other States.—(llear, heir !) Mr. HUME expressed' his deep regret that the lion. Member should havibeen induced tO:eharge her-Majesty with, having - committed treason. He wishedMemhers would confine themselves to the matters contained in the petitions which they had to present. lie wished the Hon. Member to point out one passage of the character which he had de , scribed. He thought this was just like the con duct pursued .by Ministers with respect to her Majesty—unjust, unfair, mean, and unmanly.— (Cheers.): —What could the Hon. Member wish for or intend' by making such an unworthy display in the sight of England ? Surely there would be opportunities enough upon the various motions of which-notice. was already given, of stating his opinions in a manner' which would allow of their being met and discussed. The. course he taken was.mean and uujustifiable, :to - ailack an oppressed female, at "a time when-she could 'not be prepared to defend .herself. He Was-as ready and firm a supporter of the State and Constitu tion as any man. Ile held the letter which had be - en mentioned in: his hand, and :there was not one sentiment in that letter-which-he considered improper. The - N`ohle Lard and his friends op posite hacFloadly.aheereCthe Speech of the Hon. Member. Let them. lay . ' their hands on their hearts, and say that they felt justified in their proceedings with respect to her. Majesty, if they could. Doubtless their 'conduct was such that thaty were glad'.of any little support, however small, which they could pick up to justify that conduct, and hence their grateful cheers, But let them put themselVes in the situation in which the -Queen was found at the time of -writing that let. ter : an undefended female, borne bows by the vilest, the meanest MeaSures which • could be adopted.—(hear, h e ar, - hear!)--AS T lteit he - used the word meanest, he intended it to be receiv ed in its most degradedf sense.—(Hear, hear ! !) —The proceedings against her Majesty were infamous from beginning to end—a blot upon the English nation, and every man in it. What Was the situation of the Queen at that tune ? And if the principles of the worthy Alder Man should prevail, what would. hp the condition of the subjects of this realm? He admitted the wrongs done to the Queen, he.a.drnitted - all her various injuries, and then proposed that fresh insults "Shoald be added. Let the Noble Lord (Gas . tlereagh), if ever retlexion met him on his - 4)11- [6w, think of the injuries he had inflicted on her Majesty,. If Royalty:was to be sup ported, the honour due . to each - particular rack must be yielded to it. If the Monarch were to be de factolting, Coilsort rfrjsi be de facto Queen. Would any man deny ,that ? Was it not the duty of those to whom the affairs Of the State were entrusted to secure the honour and respect dne to every bl'anch' of it ? The Queen had applied to Lord Liverpool for means of conveyance to this COuntry, 'and received no answer. Lord Melville hallifiee - n asked for the use'4='a. vessel io bring her ,acro;s the channel, which was not granted, though every petty Prince of Germany was accommodated with" one to bring. him over and carry him back too. Epg land WEIS, disgraced- by such proceedings, and rendered ignominious to Poreign. States.--He proceedod to comment on the nature of the trial which her Majesty had in part under- .• gone ► and defended the assertions respecting it contained in her letter.' lie thought the writing of that letter justifiable. If that eta appeal to the feelings of her Lord and Master had been successful, the letter itself would never have met the public. eye: She had de manded in it a fair trial. Judging by the prin ciples of the Constitution, and the declaration§ of the Worthy Alderman as tp hiS zeal in supporting it, her Majesty was not only fully justified in writing that letter, but every expression in it was sanctioned, whether he knew it or, not, by the observations of the worthy Alderman. ‘,ti!Alderitian HEyosTe rose to defend himself from the attack of the last Speaker. Ile could not be called unmanly in 'the expression of his Opihien, for he had done it openly and fairly ; liP had not retired to holes and Corners. lie did 'not approve of any ofie - of the proceedings against her Majesty. lie had been challenged to pro duce any passage of the character which. he had given of the letter. 'He had not the' letter by him, and must trust to memory.—[Mr. Hume said, " Here is the letter," and forwarded it to the worthy Alderinan.]-one passage. contained these 'words, -" Your Court is a scene of IoW delsanehery." Was - this fit language to address to the Sovereign ? In the answers to the Addresses therel were many passages of a worse-character: " This Bill (of Pains and Penalties) darkens thdperspec tive with the probability of a civil war."—(Hear. hear!) " The time is now come when the soldier and the citizen are connected and inseparable in interests."—(Hear, hear, from the Opposition.)" shall recarel any decision of such a body at no disgrace or disparaement." " I shall nut submit to any sentence not likely to be au. thorised by the decision of a proper Court ut Justice." If this Bill pass, it may become proper for the people to con,ider pox far it may be necessary to obey. it as alaw." " When she toil of the industrious artisan is succerded by the teats of misery with winch he moistens his liard pillow, it he Owing to the herd- bvartellness of otiiorrssitm. Per the lime is not far.distant whet' this will only exist as the remetu'irance of a troubled ilrcam."--(llear. bear, -fe , ..0 the Opposition.) The Hon. Alderman quoted several . other pas sages from the auswcrs, which he conceived to be objectionable. If these proofs .failed him, he must rest the justification of his conduct on the opinion expressed' relative to this subject by some of those who were most efficient in support ing the cause of her' Majesty. He would, if not out of order, quote the language of a speech pronounced by a Noble Earl in th 6 Upper House, —(Cries of " Order !")—The Bono Alderman did not wish to transgress, and was proceeding to take another course, in justification 6f his con duct, but upon the repetition of the cry of " Spoke !" he apologized to the House for hav ing exercised their attention so long, and sat down. Mr. LOCKMART said he rose to ekpress his ex treme-regret at the variance between the tone of the Honourable Alderman's remarks, and that ultimate pacific result which he had express ed his hope of. The. Honourable Alderman had alluded to many illegal 'and unconstitu tional passages ; and he too had seen with regret the publication of evidence unusual, if not illegal, and comments also- on that evidence, published from day to .daY; he had seen also the dignity of . a High Court - of Justice violated without rebuke Or punishment ; he had alio seen language of the Queen's irresponsible ad visers, - which could not but extremely re gret. If the constituted authorities, if the At torney-General had not.been able to stop such irregularities in the time which had passed, what hope was there for the future ? , He bad thought before he entered the' House, that not only all proceedings in action would have been aban doned, butalsO all proceedings Of om ission ; and it was - with regret that he now understood time 'Noble Lord (Castlereagh) to say,- and the Hon. Alderman to' recommend, that her Ma jesty's name - should not be' inserted in the Li turgy. The Noble Lord assumed that the otitis- sion was not in the nature. of punishment, but only an exercise of the Royal Prerogative ; but it must be, meant . as a 'specific punishment for a crime not proved, or as a personal degradat;on. A pecuniary arrangement was pro. posed 'to the House of Commons ;, but the Minis. tern had already tried the efficacy of that, and instead of being an anodyne, as they had hoped, it appeared to have acted as a stimulus, and - it could riot be hoped, there - fore, that a proposition of a similar nature would be attended now with any different.effect. Now what was proposed to he done.? To omit her Majesty's name in the Litergy, though every accusation had been aban doned, and to place. her Majesty in the situation of a person who was not to be mentioned on the Sabbath-day at the same time with .ottn r Royal persons ; and thus the illustriqus female was sent with a disparaged character to hold a Court. With wealth, and consequently power, was it probable, so disparaged, that she would fall into the hands of good advisers Was it not rather. to be expected that her. irrespon sible advisers would continue of the same cha racter ? But if her Majesty were placed in that situation which every innocent person ought (and he called that person innocent against whom- nothing had been ,proved), she would :be surrounded with persons of rank and cha racter, and instead of becoming the bane (as some prognosticated), she would be an ornament to the country. If her Majesty's character re mained stigmatised by the omission from the Li turgy, the subject would still excite discontent, it would be a sort of firebrand, which would never be extinguished till that which fed it was renaoved. Whilst the agriculturists were suffer ing under a severe pressure, unattended to by the tegislatiire, would the public, endaro - to se e their-vital interests neg lected- for the va t in punc tilios of the Ministers? e 'The Learned Gentleman concluded by declaring, that he spoke not as an enemy to the Ministers, whose ninaidros, on the contrary, he had many y ears supported, and vflatse t.,eso.eraite through the late Contest he ad always applauded, yet he Elitist be permit dodht whettieis they. had. (*gnat excel , , once hi the arts of peace as in the coaduct.of 'ord NucEsl said, 114 only wished to address one Word to the Hon lie had in his first speech that evening charged her Majesty with having; itsed language for %Odell any other persqn wOuld have: been Made amenable to the law ;- but when called dpon to produce the pas sages, be was .unable tc- do So.---(Cries of " No, no.")—" Then I. call (icon the Hon. Alderman' to state the tidisagf's." Mr. Alderman 1.11:v - alte sail a few words; which were not heard in the gallery. • Lord NUGE:IT said, if the lion. Alderman could not state the passages, his attack on her, - Majesty savoured of unmanly barbarity. Con sidering the anomalous situation in whizlt her Majesty had teen placed, it was rather too nnich to visit her with any severity of censtire for incautious language ; it was too like the conduct of Spanish inquisitors, wlio placed their victim on the rack, and from his speeches there extracted matter of acctisatiou, Such conduct was - not min-fly—it was not Vngllsin lie could not, but agree with the Honourabl4 Alderman, that some passages in the answers to addresses did not reflect any credit on. the tasty or education of the composer ; but the censure) due to that vanished into air when compared with some of, the answers which his Ma- jesty had . been advised to give—he alluded more particularly to a recent instance, the :atiy swer.of his Majesty to the Address from. the me , tropolis, which reflected the utmost disgrace ow his advisers, and was far more likely to be pro, ductive of ruischief than any incautious.expres-' sions in her Majesty's answers. to Addresses. • The Vetition was then brought up, laid on the table, and ordered, to be printed. AFFAIRS OFNAPLEi. Mr. G. BkNKES appeared at the Bar with-the Report on the Address, and was proceeding to read it, when blr LAM B evening, rose: and said, after the 1 —z•• ueb ate 0 f this ir, did not ••i." to take: up the but there was one topic upou Is bi e b I.c wished to get some information ; be time of the lioug meant the affairs of Naples. lie was one of I ~ ,'~ r those who thought that upon principle no Govern meat ought to interfere with the- internal re gulations of another. He understood that the -1 system of the present Government was Perfect --; neutrality, and to secure, if possible, the tran quillity of Europe, or at least of this countrp. He could not forget that the.consequence of the non-interference of England on the first partition of Poland was a long and inveterate war through Europe.; he did not say that this was a fact sufti ciently proved, but he did think if England had co-operated with France, the unfortunate and disastrous wars which . followed might have been avoided. lie wisEed to press ripen the Noble Lord the propriety of stating the intentio'nB Government on this point,,heeatise no marl ceov • say if hostilities shouild commence in Europe that England would not be engaged. • Lord CASTL EttliAoll said, nothing had Occurted to justify this country in interfering with the.in , dependence of another conutry. But. Al bile, said this, he wished that Gentlemen ,would form hasty opinions, especially on a subject; a so important and delicate a nature.' No perettr,7 torY opinion could or should be given where is complication of interests were engaged, and where all the attendant circumstances could lqot . ••. be accurately known. - This country would not ; interfere, but he could not therefore say, that under no circumstances other Powers, pursuing a different policy, might not interfere, and feel it. their duty to do so. No cursory view could, do' this subject justice, .and, interesting and _i t npor . " taut as it was, he submitted that the lion. M e nv- - her who last addressed the House, wilkhis usttat temper and knowledge, had.as it were run away - from it, and assumed. facts. very different Troup those which had been - represeuted-tohim (Lord Castlereagh). Mr. AVARRE said, there was someth!ng° iu what fell from the Noble Lord, which arrested • - f attention while it excited alarm. He heard . the .Noble Lord hold out a probability of our :non interference, while he added, that-the safety, or . supposed safety of the Austrian *Government • would induce them to put dowii the gallant, noble, and justifiable effort of the Neapolitans to establish their indApendence. :Nothing, xowever, that he heard could justify such an aggression of the more powerful: State. The 'ships ot• the King of England were employed in the eigrOY; on ce of the King lv of Naples, and he felt himself justified in asking the Noble "Lord opposite if he cool& state any probable - time at• which this subject should be laid before Parliament ? The peace end tranquillity of Europe rendered such an answer absolutely necessary. Lord' CASTLER6A.GH said, the extent. .of the question was so wide that he really could not all". swerthe question of the lion. Member. ,Cost- , sistently with delicacy, he could not state tl‘a various 'representations that reached, Go ,verntnent, especially while the circumstances re lating to Naples were still pending, In the ' large and European sense of the Han. Member's question he could not a nswer him. But this he could say, that his Majesty's Government were not pal' ties to. the King of Naples acceptlng the invita-, tion of the Allied Powers—(hear, hear !)-I—The local authority at Naples had no hesitation io complying with the rec./nest of the King, 1 4 there was no acceptation by this Government , and no participation with the policy by which ' the departure of the King of Naples was go' versed. Sir R. WissoN wished to ask a question 01 1 a subject of considerable importance. One pars - araph in the King's Speech certainly h e ld out 'that there was reason to hope the blessings of peace would still be preserved to the nation ; but it Might fri.;',.?oubt(td who m .. t h e ours‘i 1040