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NOTICE is hereby given , to all Persons de sirous of contractinz to supply the fullowiiiri Articles foe the Use of the Army, viz.:— ,FORAGE, viz. —OATS, HAY, and STRAW—To his Ma jesty's Oavalry in Barracks, and Oats in Cantonments and :Quarters' l in the several Counties in North Britain. b at the Deliveries are to commence on and forlhe 25th day,. ° L s July next ; that Proposals in writing, sealed up and „. . - " at "d, " Tender fur Army supplies," will be received e this Office on or before Friday the 29th day of June, ' n staqt, but none will be received after Twelve o'Clock on that Dar. Each Proposal :must hare the Letter whieh is annexed to the Tender properly filled up, by Two- ,4ersnns of known Im'nerty, cm:Agin:4- to become. bound with the Party ren dez-inv. in the amount stated in the printed Particulars, for the doe Pevformanee of the Contract ; and no Proposal %Oil be noticed mile:* made on a printed Tender, and the Prices expressed in Word‘ at length-. Particulars of the Contracts may he bad upon application 'at thes e Chanihers, between the hours of Eleven and Five, and at the Office of Deputy CoMMissary General Young, Edutlmrgh. FOR PAS , ;ENGERS ONLY. To Sail on the 17th Instant, for BE:4OAL direct, THE Hon. Company's Chartered SHIP BARBOSA, •• 11P.N111 , . fIUTCHIN-• - • t SON, Commander, 'Burden 03 Tons, lying 17' in the City Canal, Blackwall; has a poop AlKfz _ and- rery superior accommodations for Pas -3nlgers. For Terms of Passage ar.,ly to thr Commander, at 'the Jerusalem ( otferhouse; or to BUCKLES, BAGSTER, "nd BUCHANAN, 33, Mark•lnne. .. . . To Sail on or before. the .10th. July, for VAN DIEMAN'S LAND and NEW SOUTH WALES. 3- TH is fine Co-ppered Ship - MlN s•rn EL, A I. Burthen too Tons, W. BARNES, „ .-- ; : i k• 4 Commander. Carries a Surgeon.—Lying in f .Gordon' s Dock, Deptford, coppering, but will •• .., 7 Load in the City Canal. A few Births only disengaged. For Freight, Passage, and other Particulars npply to JOSEPH PINSENT, Broker, 22, Birchin Lane, Cornhill. - qty URGESS'S NEW SAUCE' for General Purposes, - having given such great approbation. and the df.matid for it continuing to increase, ,101 IN BUT and SON beg most respectfully to offer this their best ac -I..nowledgments to the Public fur their liberal patronage of the s k i nt: it s utiEty and, great convenience in all climates has recomm e nd e d it to the ino.t distinguished forei g n con nexions, who have all spoken highly in its recommendation. It is prepared by them ONEY; and for preventing disappoint went to families, all possible care has been resorted to, by voch buttle being sealed upon the emit with their firm and Itddiess,• as well as each label having their signature, with taut which it cannot he genuine. • JOHN BURGESS and SON long established and much esteeme:/ ESSENcF, of ANCHOVIES, continues to be pre tared hi them after the sane manner that has given the tireate%t satisfaction for many years. W5.1h0u5e,,107, Strand, corner of the Savoy-step, London. Original Fist-Sauce %VaraOuse.) • This Day was published, price 3s. n<l. - DAMON and PYTIHAS, - a Tragedy, in Five Acts, as Performed at the Theatre Royal, Covent Garden. Printed-for John Warren, Old Bond-street, D ICTURESQUE TOUT. OF THE SEINE FROM PARIS _TO THE SEA. rpas. Work, graciously approved by, and by special permission dedicated to, His Majesty LOUIS AV/11, must, from the interest attached to Normandy, be h ighly interestinz to a British Public. The Sixth and last Part of this Picturesque 'Four will be published by It. AC -I.ERMANN, 101, Strand, on the Ist of July next. Each Part contains four coloured Views and 32 pages of letter-press, 4to. Elephant, price Ids.; a very few copies Oil Atlas Paper, Price 21s. - took;;11ers are pirticolarly regnested to send in the Names (.1 their respective Subscribers on or before the 15th of June, lot inlertion in the List of Sjhscriliers. 41 .`u, jrrst published by It. Ackermann, and may be had of _ . all the Bool:sellets, 12mo. price 9s. 6d. CULINARY CHEMISTRY: Exhibiting the scientific Principles of COOKERY: . Witt: concise Instruction, for the preparing good and whole-, Aotne Pickles. Vinesrar, Conserves, Fruit, Jellies, Marmalades, Ind various other alimentary sn'sstances employed ist • DOM F.s - ric ECONOMY With Observations on the Chemical Constitution and Nutritive Qualities of d;fferent Kinds of Food. With Copper-Plates, By FREDERICK ACCUM. By Mr. SAUNDERS At his Great Room, No. 89, FLEET-STREET, on MON DAY, June llth, and' Eleven days.(Sunday ex- Cepied), at half-past Twelve, precisely, AN Extensive and Valuable COLLECTION of BOOKS, ORIENTAL I'.IANUSCRIPTS, BOOKS of . I 'RINTs, MUSIC, &c. &c. many ;n elegant bindings of mo- Th ee°, ruseia and calf, among N% hid] ate—Folio, Solryns eoitturrie des Hindous, 4 torn ; Virgilii Opera,. vellum paper, Didot, ins ; Della Bella's Woas, rots.; Mont laucon's Antiquities, 7 vols. ; Hutchins's Dorset, 2 vols ; I.tdon Gazettt s. 24 vols.; Thoresby's Leeds, by Whit taker, 2 reels. ; Barnet's Reformation, 3 vols.; Stripe's Me morials, 3 vols, large paper; Spence's Polymetis ; Miller's !iarlieners' Dictionary, by Marlyn, 4 vols. ; Sir William IT anototi's Etru.can, Greek, and Roman Antiquities.— %anti Philosophical Transactions at large; Edwards's Birds, "is.; Reeves's Bible, rioted on vellum, 9 vols.; Lord Or (!rd's W or k s, 5 vo l s.; - Gibb on ' s R ome, 6 vols. ; A c k ern i alin ' s 4 uhridge, Oxford, Public S chools, and Microcosm of Lon - ii : l ;.—Octaro, &c. Bliffon Histeeire Naturclle, 61 tom ; En ipddie, 36 tom ; Ackermanti's Repocitory, 24 cols ; Dry srfa Works, lq Scott, 18 rols ; Johnson and Steerens's a_' 4l 'espeare, 21 cols ; a Large Painting, by F. Le Moyne,, z ke. - To he vi ew ed two d a y s p rece di ng , an d morn in gs o f S a l e , it'd Catalogues had, price is. 6d. each. PORTSEA, HANTS. C APITAL and SPACIOUS - FREEHOLD PREMISES, toge ther With a valuable Ready-Money Business, established in toe„, Li nen, w oo ll en , an d Carper Trades nearly fifty years. 4. 0 be SOLD by AUCTION by Mr. CROOK, on THURS DAY, the 14th of June, 1821, at the GEORGE INN, P ORTSMOUTFI, at Seven o't luck in the Eveninz, ALL thosevery desirable FREEHOLD PRE MISES. Which are tour stories high, substantially br ick -built, stuccoed over, in good repair, possessing all the advantages of a first-rate business, situation without parallel, and placed to command peculiar advantages from its proxi mity to the commtinication, which dietige• fre o n Ibis. as a central spot, b e i ng N o . 130, Queen-street, the property and ,r esidence of the 'late Mr. JOE-IN PAYNE. The Premises comprise in the basement a spacious dry cel lar; ground floor, an, eicellrnt light and conveniently ar ranged shop, 76 feet deep, with private entrance to the dwel ling, paved centt yard, stable, and other outbuildings, abon dantly supplied with good water;. first floor, a lofty dining room, library, ruse room, and good kitchen, fitted with Cupboards, very complete, with communication by means of back stairs from the yard and side passage, a gelimettleal staircase of easy ascent, leading to a well proportioned draw ing loom, china cupboard, and three cheerful bedchambers, it convenient closets ; in the upper story are thrtii stoat e ileepnig rooms, and linen presses en the landing. ' Nh e y h e en wed fourteen days prior to the sale, and further Particulars known, by arplying (if by lettei, post paid) to Thomas Boyd, I , sq., Skinner-Street; and Roliert _Shank Esq., Great Windiest er-sh ert; London;- to the 11 , teeutors of the late Mr. Pas tw, oq the premises; or to Mr. Crook, 89, high-street, Gosport. PA AAI E T, ();,' LORDS, JUNE O. ROYAL ASSENT. At half past three o'clock the Loan CHANCEL LOR, the Earl of SHAFTEiBURY, and Viscount MELVILLE, appeared as his Majesty's Commis sioners, and brought down the Royal Assent to the following Bills :—The Seamen's Wages Bill, the Grampound Disfranchisement Bill, the Ju ror's Attendance Bill, the Attornies and Solici tors Regulation Bill, the Sale of Bread Bill, the Glerawley Divorce Bill, the Salop Judges Lodgings Bill, and the Edinburgh Goal Bill. Mr. Brogden and others brought up the South Sea Trade Bill' and the Irish Insolvent Debtor's Bill, from the Commons.—Read a first time. Mr. Chinnery, from the Treasury, presented a copy of the. Report made to the Commissoners of the Elvis° in Ireland by the Officers .ap-- .t pointed to inquire into the process of Distillation. Laid on the table. The General Bankrupt Laws Amendment was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Friday next. The Irish Rate of Interest Bill was read a third time, passed, and returned to the Commons. Lord REDESDALE presented a Petition from Edward Matthews,- one of the Clerks of the Court of Common Pleas in Ireland, praying to be heard by Counsel at the Bar against the Irish Courts of Law Fees' Regulation Bill.—Laid on the table. The Irish Election Expences Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to morrow. ENGLISH SILK MANUFACTURE. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE. held a Report of the Committee on Foreign Trade, on the subject of Silk and Wines. He did not expect that any general measure 'could be adopted this Session, but lie trusted he should stand excused with their Lordships whilst he briefly described the subject and the nature of that Report. Its prin cipal part referred to an important domestic ma nufacture, and he had no doubt their Lordships would be highly gratified with the information which it contained respecting the prospects of that manufacture. As the views of the Commit tee were favourable to a great existing interest, they were more likely to meet the views of Par liament than those which, although equally well grounded, happened to be in opposition to ether existing interests. In saying that they were fa vourable, however, he only meant to say, that that favour was consistent with every principle of public economy. Their Lordships would not be more gratified than surprised to learn, that the extent to which the silk manufacture had been carried in this country, had been such as to create a new demand for labour. That manu facture had been established under particular circumstances, and had been originally supported by prohibitory laws alone. But yet, for a con siderable period, 'it had been compelled to draw the raw material which it consumed' from those very countries whose manufactured silks were prohibited, and had thus laboured under a kind of dependence which operated as a powerful check on its prosperity. It had since happily occurred, however, that it had been enabled to draw its supplies from a part of the world placed under the British dominion, and to receive those supplies twice, and even three times a-year. The consequence had been, an, increase on the part of the silk manufacture in this country to an amount which was scarcely credible. It was well known that the manufacture of silk had always been a favourite object of French policy. Yet, much as our manufacture had to contend with the en couragement given to, and the general taste for French silks, it was a fact not less important than true, that the quantity of raw material now used by the silk manufactures in this coun try was greater than that consumed in the whole of France. The amount imported from the East Indies and from Italy into Great Britain exceeded by several hundred thousand pounds what France produced and imported for her ma nufactures. It appeared from the official state ment of the French Minister, that the quantity of raw silk grown and imported in one year in France was two millions of pounds ; whilst that imported into Britain, in 1820, amounted to two millions and an half of pounds, and the actual value of the silk manufactured here was ten millions sterling. A convincing proof of the ad- . vantage of adopting the principle of a free trade would also be found in the fact, that from the moment when a free trade had been admitted to the East, and the efforts of individuals had been allowed, there had been a progressive increase, not only in the quantity, but in the quality of the silk imported and manufactured. The first point to which .'the Committee had directed its view was the duty en the raw material.. With out venturing to hope that any considerable re duction could now be made in that duty, the Committee trusted that their Lordships would see the propriety and importance of relieving the silk manufacturers from the grievance of paying enormous duty on the raw material. A large re duction of that duty would immediately create an increased consuription in this country, and large exportations abroad. With respect to the drawbacks allowed on re-exportation, so much in convenience and so much expence must be in curred, to obtain them', that those on small parcels, and the trade was chiefly carried on in small par cels, could not be obtained at all. The silk manufacturers did not wish to rely for protection on tl►e continuance of the present system of pro hibitiotis. They confidently stated, that if a duty were imposed on Foreign Silks, to the amount of affording them cornpensatien for the increased price of labour in this country, .and if the duty on the raw material were lowered, they - would be prepared and desirous to stand the compe tition with the French silk manufacturers, both in England and for exportation. It was indeed al ready. known, that in the United States, and in other parts of the world, a preference was given to our- silks over those manufactured by the French. There was anoth er p o i nt w hi c h the Com mittee recommended to the attention of their Lordships. The place ,where our silk manufac tires had been established, Spitalfields, was now subject to an Act of Parliament, authorising Ma gistrates to regulate the prices of the workmen, and to interfere in..such a manner as to make it impossible foe any silk manufacturer, however intelligent he may be, to introduce any new ma chinery, not enly at Spitalftehls, but in any other part of the country.. The ...r ogeit of this Act was to prevent all the improvements which had been made by the French in their silk manufactures from being used in ours There now existed in England a machine, the exact copy of one invent ed in France, and considered in that country as the most perfect piece of machinery ever applied to the manufacture of silk, and yet it could not be used, on account of the existing Act, There .was no doubt that the Act itself was intended to secure the parish against the increase of the poors' rates ; - but the mischief which it did to the silk manufactures more than counterbalanced the good which it was intended to produce, and would justify its .repeal. On. the- whole, the Committee trusted that their Lordships would think the. British Silk Manufacturer entitled to their attention on every prin'ciple of political economy. The other part of the report related to the Wine Trade, and though the inquiry had not been extended so far, under present circum stances, as it might. have been had any change been contemplated in the existing system, yet their Lordships would and that much interesting information had been collected upon the subject. The Noble Marquis concludetl by Moving that the Report be laid on. the table, and printed.— Ordered. The Marquis of LaNsnowN then gave notice, that after the Recess he should call the atten tion of the House to the Foreign Slave Trade. The Earl of DARNLEY postponed his motion respecting the Stationary Office in Ireland, to Monday, the 18th inst. IRISH COURTS OF LAW. Viscount SIDAIOUTH moved the Order of the Day for going into a Committee on the Irish Courts of Law Feei Regu lation Bill. The Earl - of DONOUGHMORE moved, that before going into a Committee, Counsel should-be heard at the . Ear in sup port of Clansey's Petition whist the Bill. A long conversation ensued, in which Lord Becks&le, the Marquess of Lansdowne, the Lord Chancellor, the Earl of Limerick, and Viscount Sidinouth, took part, and at the dose, -of which it was agreed that Counsel should be called to tb, Bar, and instructed to confine himself to the point, whether the Petitioner held his office under a patent, or merely during pleasure ? The House then resolved itself into a Committee, and Coun sel having been called to the Bar, Mr. Blake appeared and spoke in support of the Petition. Counsel having withdrawn, The Earl of DONOUGHMORE opposed the whole prin ciple of the Bill, and expressed his intention of throwing every obstacle in his power in the way of its passing into a law. Viscount SIDMOUTH stated, that the Noble Earl already had discussed the principle of the Bill again and again, and wished to know, as the House was in a Committee, whether it was his intention to object to any particular clause. The Earl of DONOUGHMORE objected to the whole. and moved that the Chairman report progress, and ask leave to sit again. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that if the Bill were fit to pass; the clauses were not objectionable. The fair course to . pursue would therefore be, to discuss the propriety of the passing- on its third reading. He should now move that the House do resume, and that the Bill be taken into . further con sideration on -Wednesday next, on which day he should incve that the Standing Orders of the House ; be suspended, in order that the Bill should be allowed to pass through more then one stage, the same day. The motion of the Noble and Leaf' ned Lord was then agreed to, and-the House resumed.—Adjourned to Wednesday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The House was summoned to attend in the House of Peers, to hear the Royal Assent given by Commission to several pub lic and private Bills.—(See Lords.) Mr. MANNING and Mr. DIIUMMOND took the oaths, and their seats. MISCELLANEOUS. )Ir. DAVENPORT - presented a petition from the Church wardens, Overseers and other Inhabitants of Maccletfield, against the Poor Relief Bill.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. WM. SMITH presented a'petition from certain Pro testant Dissenters calling themselves Unitarians, praying that alterations might be made in the Marriage Ceremony, as they were -obliged to conform at present to certain parts of it to which they did not subscribe. The Hon. Member thought there was no difficulty in granting the object prayed for by the peti tioners ; he was ready to bring forward a measure for that pur pose immediately, and he could net conceive that it would meet with any objection from the Spiritual Lords in another place. As the Session was, however, so far advanced, he should move that the petition be laid on the table, and leave the subject to the consideration of the House for another Session. After the Petition was read, Dr. PHILLIMORE said, that he was not in the house 'when the Hon. Member addressed it ; but if the measure he in tended to propose was the same as that brought before the House a few Sessions ago, he should certainly.oppose it. He was not averse from granting relief to the petitioners in some less objectionable way, but he honed the honourable Member would allow the petition to be printed, and to stand over till an other Session. Mr. W. SMITH said, that if the Honourable Member had been in the House, he would have heard that he proposed to bring forward the measure next Session. Mr. WHITMORE brought up the Report of the Commit tee appointed to inquire concerning Receivers of Taxes. Mr. BARING asked, if Minutes of the Evidence taken be fore the Committee accompanied the Report ? it was very de sirable that it should be before the House. WH rrm ORE said, that the Evidence was not printed. Mr. W. SMITH said, that the Evidence had not been print ed, in consequenee•of the voluminous mass which had been laid before the Committee, much of which was, of course, very irre levant to the subject. Mr. CALCRAFT considered the Evidence necessary, and should move that it be printed. Mr. R. SMITH said, that the Evidence. went to such an ex tent, that it could not be printed in time to be placed in the hands of Members during the present Session. After a few words from Mr. Hume, Mr. Macdonald, Dr. Phillimore, and the Chancellor cf the Exchequer, Mr. CALCRAFT said, that in consequence of what had fallen from the lion. Member for 'Lincoln, he should not press a motion for the printing of the Evidence. Mr. BARING considered it indispensible, and should therefore move that it be printed as well as the Report.— Ordered. Mr. BENNET moved for returns of Members of Parlit meat holding Offices under the Crown, in the Public Offices, or otherwise, with accounts of the net income of each office, whether arising from salary or emoluments, and when and by whom appointed. '.klso of all Members.hohling the reversion of Offices. After a short conversation between the Chancellor of the Ex chequer, Mr. Hume, Mr. Brougham, and Mr. Lushington, who. were inaudible, the returns were ordered to be made by the Clerk. Mr. J. P. GRANT presented a Petitionfrom Wm. Fairley, complaining of some irregularities in the Court of Session in Edinburgh.—Ordered to lie on the table. POOR LAWS. Sir R. WILSON presented a Petition from certain Free holders from a village in Lancashire, against the Poor Relief Bill. The Hon. Member supported the prayer of the Petition, and said that he should recommend to. those Gentlemen who wished to depopulate the country by a plan for preventing Mar riage among the Poor, to read an Essay, written by a learned and reverend ; though nut a very serious divine, entitled " A Modest Proposal ;" lie meant Dean Swift. Mr. BROUGHAM said that he could not avoid noticing what had fallen from his Hon. and Gallant Friend in present ing the Petition before the House. He must deprecate the plan of making such remarks upon the Bill of his Hon. and Learn ed Friend like the present, when its general merits were to he discussed at a future period. And - he could not help thinking, that the part taken by his Hon. and Gallant Friend, however pure might be his entendons, would render him rather the enemy than the friend of the pOOr. The Hor. and Learned' Gentleman then argued against the allegations set forth in the Petition, and the ground upon which the, Hon. Member who presented it opposed the Bill. With respect to the doctrines of Mr. Malthus, which were described as consisting of theories, he was of opinion that the arguments made use of by that Gen tleman were more of a practical nature than any which he had seen upon the subject.—(Hear !)—And he was sorry that those doctrines had been misrepresented out of doors, as well as within, for the purpose of casting odium upon them, and upon the measure of his Hon. and Learned Friend. He then sup ported the principles of the bill, and said that it was an act of humanity towards the poor man, to give him an opportunity of reflecting and providing for the consequences before he en tered into the married state. By the present laws he was forced into it without even a choice, and thus all the evils of which so much complaint was made, became entailed upon the country. The poor man ought not only to have the opportu nity of considering before'he made a compact of so m uc h im portance, and of such serious duration, but there was a mo ral obligation upon him to think well before he .did so, both as to his own future happiness and as to the misery which might await the unborn children that would be the 'consequence of that union. It was a wicked thing for a man to form a mar riage connection without a prospect of being able to give sup port to his family. This was held to be the case among the li higher and middling classes of society; and the poor man ought to possess the same feeling, and by the alteration proposed to be made in the laws, he would be enabled to carry it into effect if he did possess it. Colonel WOOD considered the thanks of the House due to the Hon. and Learned Gentl_man who brought forward the measure now in progress through the House. He condemned the course adopted by the opponents of the measure, and hoped the House would give it every countenance and support wren it came before them on Thursday next for general discussion. He observed that a motion of an Hon. Gentleman for the re peal of the Husbandry Horse Tax stood for that night, and would take precedence of the debate upon the Bill. As this would seriously injure its progress, he hoped the Hon. Member would not press his motion upon that occasion. He believed that all sides of the House agreed in the paramount importance of the subject with which the Bill was connected. Sir J. GRAHANI said, that he had' received letters from Carlisle, which represented all the principal inhabitants of that place to be in favourof the Bill. Mr. MAXWELL represented the accounts which he had received from various quarters to be of a different nature from those alluded to by the Hon. Baronet. He believed that W.; persons ou't of a all - civif - the" alatry 'Wife"decidedly hostile to the principles of the Bill. Mr. BIRCH said in the town which he had the .honour to represent, the measure was regarded as one whose consequences must be most destructive to all classes.____ --- 111r:W.S1111 7 fH objected to the Dill. He wished to ask the Hon. Baronet opposite whether the correspondence he had received from Leed; was Of the same character as that to which he had alluded as coming from Carlisle ? He understood that there was the strongest feeling among the manufacturers of Leeds against the Bill. Sir R. HERON said that he believed the subject to be one of such magnitude, that the proposed alterations were not yet un derstood"by, the country. He hoped that fl,r the sake of dis cussion, and of the advantages which must arise therefrom, his Hon. and Learned-Friend would persist with his measure, but not with the intention of passing it into a law (hiring the pre sent Session.. Mr. SCARLETT said, that he never expected to meet a ge neral concurrence of opinion upon a measure of so muchim portance as that which he had introduced to the House. There was, however, scarcely any difference of opinion as to the mag nitude of the eVils wnich existed under the - Present system of poor laws ; yet none of the plans suggested 'for their relief would be found to agree. Now he thought it no small recom mendation to his own plan that every than preferred .it next to his own. He had received innumerable communications from able and intelligent men in all quarters of the country, and each of them thought the measure a very good one, if .some thing of his own could but be acit?cd to it. At Mancliestcr the question haci been vtry ably discussed and examined, and of course some were to be found who objected to it. llut a very large proportion in that town considered it worthy of adoption. It was quite clear, and agreed to on all hands, that some remedy was necessary, and the sooner it was applied the better. Mr. MAXWELL thought, that in justice those Mannac turers who derived profit from the empkyrnent of people, should be required to . guarantee the support of those people when unable to work, instead of allowing tncm to - become a barthen upon the parocnial rates. Mr. CALCRAFT said, that he was in the daily habit of re ceiving a mass of correspondence, which condemned the mea sure before he House altogether. He agreed that three were serious, evils arising out of the present system-of Poor laws, but he was for applying a remedy to the defective parts, -while his Hon. and Learned Friend wished to put the s system up alto gether by the roots. The Petition was then ordered to lie upon the table. Upon the question that it be printed,. Sir It. WILSON said, that he should not reply to the per sorral remarks which bed been made upon him, but that he had felt it his duty to call the public attention to the Bill es much as possible, in order to stop its progress. Si: J. NEWPORT considered that the question had been discussed prematurely and regretted that it had been so. When the time came for it to be brought regularly forward, he hoped it would be discussed more dispassionately. He was quite cure that what had now taken place could not tend to advance the true interests of any class whatever. Mr. DAVENPORT fully conthral in what had fallen from the last speaker. • - Mr. MIME said he must protest against any objection to give an hour of the time of the House- to the consideration of a Petition upon a subject like that Which the present Petition an braced. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY considered that the subject could not be discussed with any wit of advantage uf.on the presentation of a Petition.—(Dear, hear !) Mr. H. GURN.EY spoke against the Bill. If the House passed it he should consider the passing of it to be an act of flagrant insanity. • • - - • • After a few farther observations from Mr. Scarlett, Mr. Monck, Mr. F. Palmer, and Sir J. hebright, the Petition was ordered to be printed. Dr. •PH I LLI 1M ORE presented a Pctrtion from the C.lowr hors of the Infirmary for Curing Diseases of the Eye. which. was referred to the t:ommittee upon the Ophthalmic Flo , pitel. Lord NUG'ENT moved for returns of the names of the Go- . verr.ors and LicutenaLt.Governors of the Leewards Islands, with an Amount of their salaries and all otter emoluments.— ..Also of the Officers of Justice in the said Islands, with ac counts of their sa!aries. Lord W. BENTIisiCK fixed upon • the 21st of June for bringing, forward his premised motion with respect to !Sicily. COIII3IITTE E. OF WA YS AND MEANS. The CHANCELLOR of the iisfellEUEli moved that the Egon cf the Committee of Way and Mcaha shoula Le brought up : Mr. Strieant O 1 SLOW contended for the right of prece dency for hismotion relative to the Usury Laws Repeat Bill, which sto.cd first aux:lz tLe Or‘ftra of the Day. lie was the more anxious upon this subject, as the measure had been so long pending, and as he had been- applied to from so many quarters to bring it to a decision, that he felt-his personal honour concerned in resisting any further delay:. .It - was for the l-idua,s., however, he wee aware, to determine which motion should hay,. the precedency - , and he would appeal to its discretion by mot', nog an Amendment, that:Cie. - Usury Laws - Repeal Bill atot;.l be read a second time. . - Lord LONDONDERRY opposed the Amendment. after a conve.rsstion,• in which Sir R. Heron, Mews. Bennet, Davenpo . lt,toul Abercrombie took a part, Mr. Serjeant ONSI,ONY expressed his readiness to to whatever should appear to be the feeling of the House. Mr. J.. P. GRANT, while he concurred entirely in the prin ciple of the - measure, recommended the Honourable and i.,,o4sta - cd Gentleman to postpone it to the next Session. Mr..Serjear.t ONSLOW then - moved, that the Bill be read a second'time that day three months.. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thanked the Hon. and' Learned Gentleman in his own name and it that of the 'Government, for the courtesy with which he had cone.entril to postpone his Bill.. • Mr. DAVENPORT be g ged leave also to th a nk th e H on . and Learned Gentleman for his courtesy. Mr. CAJACRAFT rose also to return his thanks to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman—(A laugh.)--He was the more grate ful tohim.,as he (Mr. Serjeant Onslow) had made, with a 1131C.L.' Metter-grace and more effect, precisely the wend motion which it was his (Mr. C..in) intention to have made. Be Loped the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, if' he found the same prejudices VX istuig against his measure next S ess i on ac h e did i n t hi s, wou ld be equally ready 'to take the same course. Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW Said, he should certainly bring- for ward the measure in the next Session. WAYS AND MEANS. - On the question that the Report of the. Com mittee of Ways and Means Should be brought up. Lord A. IlAiunToN directed the attention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to an Excise Bill, which had recently passed, and which was found to presS severely on some of the Scotch Brewers. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Nia3 sur prised if the measure was so objectionable that it had not been complained of before, as it had re ceived the Royal Assent before Lister. The Bill only went to give that protection to the re venue, which every - tradesman would think ne cessary for his commercial concerns. Mr. MAXWELI, said, he had. fort , :arded a re presentation 'of the hardship' complained of to the Board of Excise skortly after ,the passing of the Bill. Mr. J. P.. GRANT objected to the Board of Excise being allowed to interpret in its own way an Act of Parliament. Mr. 111,inEeLEy had now to bring before the House some strong cases, respectina which it would be for the Chancellor o: 'the Exchequer to offer some expli: lation. In the last year he had come down to the House and asked for the folloir lug s upplies:— For the Army ••• • •-•- - • - £9,422,0C9 For the Navy . - 6,6g7,70 For the Ordnance - - 1,204,0t0 For the Miscellaneous Services _ 2,100,0) Noiv the expence incurred under the last head, for which the, Chancellor of the Exchequer had demanded' 2,100,000/. had amounted to 2 ,462,1281.,giving an excess on the miscellaneous Estimates to - the amount of 262,1281. The ex pellees of the Ordnance were different in amount from the supply, and there had been - variations under the other heads, so that the result was, the - total expence exceeded by 373,417/. what had been called for - by-lhe Chancellor of the Exchequer when he brought forward his Budget in 1820. Other additions had berm made which brought the total to 782,0811. He wished; to call the attention of the. House to this circum stance, to prevent a recurrence of such a d;.- parity .between the estimates and the. 'expen diture, and with a view to effect this, he hoped in future that all the supplies would •be voted before the Chancellor of the Exchequer brought fOrward the Budget. He complained that the Chancellor. of the ,Exchequer had this. year esti mated the taxes at 200,0001. more than he could expert them to produce: The CHANCELLOR :9f the EXCHEQUER believed the Hon. Gentleman would find that scarcely any Budget . had ever been produced that was not liable to observations of the same kind. One cause of the difference remarked would be found in the alteration made with respect to the charge for the disembodied militia. ThateXpence, which had heretofore been met by the land tax, had been added to the supplies. The practice had been, without any vote of supply for the militia,' to provide for the charge thus created, in the way he had described. All the sums applied to the various services of the lust year had been re gularly carried : through a committee of Supply and embodied in the Appropriation Act, which subjected them to the revision of the House in every stage of that Bill. The Right Hon. Gen tleman entered into various explanations', which could not be distinctly heard in the gallery. He vindicated the 'Estimates which he had .brought down—insisted, that of late years a greater ap proach had been made to regularity in this re spect than had formerly been customary, arid was satisfied that the statements which he had -submitted to the House,in the' last year, would be found as substantially correct as any that had been made on a similar occasion.. Mr. MABERLEY was disposed to overlook the circumstance of small sums not ' ; buf a disparity like that which he had noticed, seemed too great to be overlooked. ' Sir J. NEWPORT thought the arrears of .ba lances ought always to be brought Under the view of the House. The en ANCELLOR of the F.:xozr.Qtrit explained. The Report was then •b:otight the question that it be read, • • Mr..T. P. GRANT said, he tho' 4ht it strange that the disembodied. Militia .shoulli have provided for in a new way, without oneworci . having been ;aid on the subj:•ct by the chance•i lor of. the Exchequer. They were contantly arnus.ed by the `Right lion.,Gentlernan With state , ments of debt paid.oll, but had sl;tisfied self that so far from havi;ig paid of l any debt, it s.7att in pc•int of fact been •actuilly incrvzsed