The Sun. — London, England, 1844-04-18 00:00:00

~~ rooeede a labour tdividual r•cantile, an of ow they of that aa in thg bin them doctrine ream' Even • _ the m well. There was not a man amongst them With whose sentiments v ith respect to slavery, he was not well acquainted. Who was it that talked so. Much about vested interests when the subject of the abolition of the slave trade were first brought before • the country ? Who was it that employed a man, who ; v as now voting with them in the House of Commons, e n Re about and att e mpt to prove that Heaven itself had ordained the condition of slavery, and had en !Wailed on the sons of Ham this curse, and, therefore, • it were impious to seek to free them? 'Who were the raen who employed that man ? 'Why the very men with whom th e G overnment were i n ti ma t e l y asso ciated. Who were the men who for years actually prohibited by a heavy duty the introduction of East India free -labour sugar into the markete ? Who were the men who shared in the twenty millions Which wer e g ran t e d f or s l ave com pensation ? Let th em turn to the compensation books for their ta e to this question. They would there find that r `ae Goulb urns an d t h e Gl a d stones were th e men w h o Leived that money in the largest proportions. Who, i 6 42 ,1 1, were the men who opposed the late Adminis tration when they brought in a Bill to suspend the this? of Jamaica ? Who were the men that did It ul s? They were the men who now expressed so vi n e it sympathy for the slaves in Brazil. These re the men, too, who had lately advocated the ellsportation of Hill Coolies—a measure which had ti t i i ned in disappointment. Who was it that opposed te e abolition of flogging female slaves, and who took s 'l e twenty millions and divided it amongst them h ve s? Why, the very parties who now seemed to ii re caught the mantle of Wilberforce, and were di v d i d,ng it amongst them, such affecting sympathy they evince for the Brazilian slave. But were I .'" consistent in this? No, they were not; for, if hey were, they would apply the same argu -111,4 which they now used with respect to W a h zili an sugar to the article of tobacco. vb .Y did they not apply the same argument to rice 1 ,,„ 1 . 01 was grown in Carolina, and the cotton which te ' e grown in Massachusetts, Lousiana, and Alaba tea r Why even Brazilian sugar itself, they allowed come into England to be refined for the purpose of ex .Pertatio n in British bottoms, and in this way Bra zilian e• aes sugar was refined and sent to Jamaica, where the b ee . " 4 'ea planter used it in preference to his own sene att, se he could get it at about 4d. per pound, while by ixet u'og his own Muscovado sugar to England he could . Bcl 7 per pound for it.—(Cheers.) It would - therefore eht ;een that encouragement was given to Brazilian of e- groWn produce, notwithstanding the expressions s ympathy pa which came from this so-lately changed 17 But what did they do with respect to the article of el)tt e i n They did not deal in cotton, and therefore the y pro d very little about the slave labour by which it was to tuee u• For years past he had been endeavouring India attention of tbe Government to British le 4 a, for the purpose of calling into life the trade t that part of the empire in the article of cotton. Gen'lad seen it himself growing on the upper waters e Janina, and along the fertile banks of the of en g t e ,s7 He had often fancied to himself large cfops s fe'' °n being grown in those districts, floating down th e? 1 1 ) s of 1,200 tons burthen, carried to Liverpool, le e f e u nshipped; sent to Manchester, thence to Pais tee' be 'n he weaved, to Ayr to be tamboured, to Glasgow L ot bleached ; from thence to London, and from to a d °n back again to the banks of the Ganges, there the field , the form of her whose husband haStoiled in de esi e ld to produce the raw material of which her el e of was composed. Then with respect to the arti eeee tobacco, the Government had no scruples what- T il t s as to the manner in which tobacco was produced. tlour ej e t urned quietly r o und, and said, Young gen- Y n ' s moke your cigars, and, old gentlemen, take Whi ch s nuff; for tobacco is an article in tak e we do. not deal, and therefore we t o cot n ° heed ab ou t it." They also said with respect get " Get cotton wherever you please, and In eo ; l ee from wherever you please ; but we deal th e b n, ,and therefor e y ou w ill not receive corn from ther e of the Ohio ; we deal in sugar, and To uo re you must not receive your sugar from Rio. not sugar, ther e f o re ; touch not corn ; touch dite os o ?free ; touch not timber, for these are conamo ext., In which we deal, and in which we are inter tho;;' mul• therefore you will only take them from tte - den l?arts of the w orld which belong to us." thA the right o f a small minority to legislate h ials.subj ec t. Th ey did no t re present the nation. toee I , l4e anitted thei r r i g ht to send lecturers throughout heingdons for the purpose of_getting up petitions hi e d .Pevesented to the House of Commons ; but he de tain '"eir right to force any man to consume a cer thi article, and to say to him, " unless you consume th Yea shall go without. Now he (Mr. Thompson) that some of his friends had fallen into fe ; e 'lefeular mistake. He knew some good per ke /AO were very anxious to see Brazilian sugar pe f i L7 , out o f the market. He would ask if the mono ejoest_ minority were sincere in their present profes ,e,",3l, what sort of men they must have been before ? te _l y s , neee s and laughter.) If they were sincere now, fr "e_ must have repented of former errors. certain I ,Le e ct of his had ..repudiated all armed inter ivsksiltitoli f l ur the suppression of slavery. Now, what treau i t e . let of Parliament which prevented the in- It w e Km of Brazilian sugar into the market ? be us e ? hut a piece of .parchment, and would e C estora. aa o unless supported by a coast-guard, b y could e e n l ! l xses, and by Exci s e Boards. It never was a o nti 'e Ptee LIP without force, and, therefore, there - s lea ve i t et armed force in existence. He would would nl eo's consciences as to whether they other. This • f le w, erne one kind of sugar in preference to an the„ '3' a h e r believed would act more bene h our Ishing the slave trade and slavery, b at this A bolition Societies; and he believed Adam Was ell Il ls not a solitary opinion of his own, s eol irrted by. Cropper, Hodgson, Fearon, and fb ri ne whi c h h inLelf. But what became of the doe 1-",eY cam e f . w as now 'held by the monopolists, when „ e vaich s , I.° consider other parts of the world from e ooc , --gar cou p u be obtained ? There were Siam, ree ane ile, the vast plains of India, Java, Pulo vatee r nlillions of acres of land could be culti of n th ose sug ai . . Parts of the world for the production de. , f eing - an opportunity were given of oe so. I -if they rejected Brazilian sugar clever,. ace "nt of • bei ng w hy its the produce of sieved Y not take sugar from Siam ? He fair that seen if all the countries in the world in air sugar could be grown were to be thrown into W°ulsoeve'llion that slavery and the slave trade nio b ro. n, e entirely at an end. He put those opi tat t h e 'uly before the meeting, feeling confident IN th e Y were worthy of their attention ; he lik e wa q u estion to the m i n thi s wa y, b ec a use the minds n ote coming whe n th e y mus t ma k e u p their eitherle; to b e ro bb e d f or ano th er year , an d it lett rB "' for years to come , or t o b rea k o ff a t once th e The manacled the trade with respect to sugar: 4 t o f f i tti te g e n n e ge of Governm e nt ou g ht to be, " e will .he e eeiceeeoujoad principle of truth and justice. It is their f en _ Nature which says men should trade with nati ons s rv•men. It is the voice of God which says With timtiel be brethren,.and interchange blessings Wit h T I,°t , ." . The principle of free intercourse. hie a the nations of leh s of the earth was the only one dependrfac calculated to maintain still further the in !lna eo u _n e e . which had so long been maintained by lvoted "_n o try, It was this principle alone which end paietontinue England in her present high Was lik e] state of civilization, and which alone ee peoe ,Y e to confer lasting benefits and happiness on the ei ol v: Until such a principle were recognised by alle l e, e minent of this country, so long would the in ab u f aet uring population be plunged in distress and cate c 4 ;'t misery. But, as soon as the principle be -4.0,4 e cognised, so soon w ou ld th e manu f ac t ur i ng Pee ous et ifts of the country assume a healthy and pros the d e aspect, a n d our ar ti sans wou ld b e re li eve d fie= Were!_raded and miserable condition in which they rate(l'ifou7 Placed. Our farmers would be remune !le the .thc.,ir heavy toil, and in a few years' time, g exe Pie which he bad been humbly illustrat ee earided and e th at E advanced, they would be enabled to 1 1 (1, 4 _ o ngland was herself again, happy in the en- Ntatioe",Lwbf. which friendly intercourse with foreign e . oei d oe , te was based on mutual interests, and kieet, increase the longer it lasted. The Hon. e ileesi' o nlan sat down amidst loud and prolonged The ge et . the C RAmetase- then stated that th e nex t me eti ng be h e i i . e mbers of the Anti-Corn-law League would T ti.. in that hou se on W e d nes d ay next. ‘' Meeting then separated. ------- 44VERTISEMENT. ] —TnE ISLAND OF BARDADOES_ bee lOLOWAY'S OINTMENT AND PILLS.—The 6th of 41!ertsber, 1 843, William Grasett, of Bridgetown, Bar in , solemnly declares that for two . yyars he sur men d . ir l thnriul ulcerations, which no medicine or trea . 1 lip s „ tft sland could cure. That he was in the service of 4 htil: C - n as key, 'who caused him to be attended by Dr. el, - IT "' Bryant, who, failing to cure him, gave up the atill„„---, , as n. last resource, ' used Holloway's Ointment ki Nt "is, which completely cured him ! to the astonish - - 0 41 h, °I all ; the cure being so astonishing and extra ti e ,dtY, that J. Young Edghill, Esq., caused the par- W i ts to be advertiEed in the papers of Barbadoes.—: . ( ~v h et Profcssor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand Is eß ere advice may be had gratis); and by almost all ;actable Chemists throughout the civilized world. ' • Of ?hlt-TING ATT RACTIONS.—BeII's Life in London Ai ph luay next will contain the commencement of th e am: et?cal List of Winning Greyhounds in 1843-4—pi__ • tl,‘_yoaching First Spring Meeting at Nwmket, with anti . _ qjr„,' "Y remarks by Pegasus—Bath a nd s other races— _A .. ~ e'"Pse at the forthcoming Derby, and position of the C racks „at —Steeple Chases—Angling Episode, No. 5 : by . • • SlimPerfv— Cricket — Aquatics— Pedestrianism— Pig eon N) Ing---Chess--Regeneration of British Boxing, by Tonl • g--beath the Cicero of the Ring," and the USUPI palmy of Sporting Events. O ffi ce of Bell's Life, 170, Strand. Office4l'snlisaion, of Sixpence or six Post•o ffi ce stamps to the ) itors'PPera will be forwarded as usual. On Sunday aIS( • -,Z,:`-,lre " l aud nta in full articulars of -the " Doings at the'ret on the Sun day following copious details 0 the -hea r Races. Post-office Orders for 6s. 6d. will secure ,i,.. ,tual transmission of the paper for a quarter, dellveret, ' t nel 9 00 1),•1 S AT :, --1.0 of.,4ondon.on the day of publication. . -Prirrie—" k3HEAP.—There was an abundance .qf N ur MIA salmon in market on Friday at hurpence per ``` Zdnurich Chronicle, THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, APRIL 18, 1844. ,14%, „, Alp 4 , , or 11 4') SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. GLOBE.—Mr. Cobden mentioned last night, at the meeting of the Anti-Corn-law League, the weekly line of conduct which that body had chalked out for itself, as regards elections :—" Ladies and Gentlemen, since we last met there have been changes in po litical life, owing to a certain death, 'which will involve electoral changes in certain towns. I cannot say that the chapter of accidents has been very favourable to us ; for if we had chosen the battle-fie:d, we should not have gone to Horsham, to Huntingdon, or to Woodstock.—(Cheers.) I believe that in every instance where a vacancy occurs, a contest will be fought, if a local man can be found -to be put up by his own voters, even if he shall poll only 20 votes. We have been charged with dictating to the consti tuencies, whereas we only profess to co-operate with constituencies. We go to offer our co-operation to the local members of the League in the borough to which we go. If, therefore, our friends hear that a contest passes by without a League candidate, they may con clude it is because the League Council will not interfere with the local free-traders, and that they have deferred to their express wish that there should not at present be any contest, but the borough should be left to future organisation. In the case of Exeter there is a contest. I have the happiness to say that General Briggs, an officer who has served well in India, and who is distinguished for his philanthropy and public spirit in every firm, will be put in nomination as a candidate for Exeter — (Cheers) —and whatever may be the result of this con test, I am satisfied that in a borough of 30,000 inhabi tants, if we fight ono battle and lose it upon princi ple, when we fight the next battle we shall win." There has always been a pretty strong anti-corn law feeling lurking in Exeter, which has displayed it self when any occasion has called it forth; and which seems to be coming forth now. The Chronicle corres pondent from hat town, April 16th, says,—" The meet ing of the free traders last evening was attended by about twelve hundred persons, the Great Subscription Room being densely crowded. The attendance was chiefly confined to the working classes ; but the steam is so decidedly up already, that the con test which has been determined upon will be a de cided one—sufficient to annoy, if not seriously to embarrass, Sir W. Follett's friends." The present Go vernment has taken its stand in defence of the principle of landed monopoly ; and as landed monopoly is pre cisely the monopoly which an increasing commercial population can least endure, there is a broad ground of conflict with government candidates, whenever they stand for large towns. This is a conflict which arises out of th e na ture of things; the Anti-Corn-law League may be blamed, by those whom it embarrasses—for existing at all (and they may thank themselves), but it is superfluous to blame it for appearing on an arena like that or Exeter. It comes to the same thing as blaming the Catholic Association for starting its candidate in Clare. If the repeal of the corn-laws is the cause of the towns, their upholders will be driven to the pocket-boroughs ; and Schedule B will be a half-way house on their journey to Schedule A. Their metropolitan candidate exchanges City turtle feasts for a Sandwich at Huntingdon ; and their crack-lawyer is confronted at Exeter by a military champion of the Anti-Corn-law League. It may be expected that we should add a few words to our late observations on the rule by which it appeared to us a body like the League should Emit its intervention at elections. We have been asked rather impetuously by an anonymous correspondent,—" Is it possible that you can know so little of the plans to which the League are solemnly pledged, after the most mature conside ration ; or that you have so poor an opinion of their sincerity, as to suppose them capable of acting on the non-interference principle you would wish to inculcate? Having again and again pledged themselves that every borough constituency shall have a candidate for whom to record their votes, who is in favour of Total and im mediate Repeal,' and having already got three-fourths of the 100,0001. they asked for, on purpose to carry out this pledge, do you suppose they can now turn round, and, lest they should endanger the return of some moderate fixed duty Wbig, recede from the contest?" To this we have only to reply, that Mr. Cobden's statement of the views of the body he represents are more in accordance with ours than with those of our above.cited Correspondent. For he disclaims interfer ence, when the local free traders of any place do not desire it. This i 4 a very different thing from a pledge to provide a candidate, whether desired or no. Mr. Cobden's statement, in fact, leaves the initiative, where it should be, in the constituencies ; and we are con tented, in like manner, to leave our recommendations to their due weight with them. S fANDARD.—CoIoneI Torrens has addressed to Lord Ashley a letter upon the Ten Hours' Bill. This letter is like all that Col. Torrens writes—temperate, gentlemanlike, and acute ; but we must add, like all the arguments that we have ever seen based upon the principles of political economy, weak and fallacious. Col. Torrens seems to maintain two propositions that are manifestly repugnant. The first is, that a Ten Hours' Bill would cripple British manufactures in the competition of foreign' markets. Secondly, that it could cause an important reduction of wages. Surely it cannot do both. If the Ten Hours' Bill cause British manufacturers to demand a higher price, it lutist be because the Bill will force the mill owners to give the same wages for less work ; but this plainly is not consistent with a reduction of wages. One or other position must be given up, and we believe that it is now generally admitted, that if a Ten Hours' Bill operate any change in either respect, the change will be in the shape of a reduction of wages, though a very light and a merely temporary reduction. The manufacturing labourers have declared themselves quite willing to take the Bill upon these terms, and they are right ; one effect of the Bill must be, to cause the factory work to be more equally distributed over the year, and this, if the number of labourers is to remain the same, will cause the reduction of daily wages to be no reduction of yearly wages. Another effect may be to cause a greater number of hands to be employed—but the demand for new hands always tends to support the rate of wages, and if the new hands are called in they will necessarily come chiefly from the families already employed, so as with ' out diminishing the family funds to distribute the labaur of earning its support more equally in every. family.. It is not without reason then that the factory labourers feel that a reduction of wages, such as a Ten Hours' Bill might produce, would involve really no pecuniary loss, while on the other side it would afford an opportunity for much additional gain, as well as some enjoyment. An intelligent workman can always earn more than one who is not intelligent, but what can be learned by one working 12 hours, and impri soned 14 hours in the mill, beyond that manual skill which is acquired in a few weeks' practice ? The two hours abstracted from him are, in Let, the only part of his life in which he could read, reflect, or think, so as to rais3 him above the condition of a mere animal. Grant ing he would not, as indeed he ought not, to give the whole two hours to study, one hour a day reading for a single year would give him more knowledge than all the millowners of Manchester put together. One hour a day reading, at 30 average octavo pages the hour, gives at least twenty-five octavo volumes, in the 313 working days of the year ; and we should like to know what Manchester millowner has in his whole life read as much. Besides this, there aro a thousand ways in which a man can employ a little time freely at his own disposal, to make more money, or to save more money, or to provide those comforts, for the obtaining of which only money is worth anything. TATTERSALL'S.—THIS EVENING QUARTER TO Sax O'CLOCK. CHESTER CUP. :9 to 1 agst Pagan 9 to 1 agst Bramble 11 to 1 agst Cattonite 11 to 1 agst Pharaoh 14 to 1 agst Red Deer 20 to 1 agst Roscius 22 to 1 agst Freedom 25 to 1 agst Alice Hawthorn 25 to 1 agst Vakeel 30 to 1 agst Nutwith 30 to 1 agst Hooton DERBY. 3 to 1 agst Ugly Buck 3 to 1 agst Rattan 20 to 1 agst Campunero 20 to I:agst Leander 33'to 1 agst King of the Gipsies 40 to 1 agst Apprentice Very little doing. THE WILLS FORGERIES CRIMINAL COURT.-(THIS DAY OLD COURT. Mr. Wirms (in continuation from our Afternoon Edition) said—All the documentary evidence against Barber came from his own office. He had never been seen at the house in Francis-street. The supposed Miss Slack was introduced to him at his own office. He told the people at the Bank that she was Miss Slack, because Fletcher told him so, as Phil pott identified her from the representation of Barber. The Learned Gentlemen then referred again to the evidence of Mr. Freshfield, which he read over at length. He com mented in strong language on the suppression of the fact that Mr. Barber felt very indignant when Mr. Freshfield told him he was himself suspected. If Mr. Barber felt a consciousness of guilt he would have acted like a guilty man, and made his way to the nearest railway station to ,go to a foreign coun t r y. B u t no , truth and honesty were bold. He remained ; and the very documents referring to this transa c ti on were found tied up in a professional manner, were found in his office after he was taken to the Mansion house. It was quite consistent also that he should refuse the namr2 of the person who instructed him, because he knew what was due from a.professional man to his client. He had now gone through the whole evi dence; and, in conclusion, • he begged of them to reflect what were the advantages and privileges they derived from society, in order that they might well weigh the verdict they were to give. He entreated them not to listen to public clamour, and to give a verdict according to reason, and truth, and justice. The Learned Gentleman occupied more than four hours in addressing the Jury. Mr. GREAVES then addressed the Jury in behalf of the pri soner Fletcher. Afterbegging the Jury to discard from their minds the verdict in the former case, he sought to impress on the Jury that there was not sufficient evidence to identify Fletcher with this transaction. The principal evidence against him was that of Mr. Apslev and his wi f e ,' who deposed to the inquiries he made at 'Ring's Langley respecting Miss Slack; but there was nothing unreasonable in supposing that under the circumstances they were mis taken, as they did not scan to be very certain respecting )e h ei i a s l i(lentity.' Therewas no evidence to show that - eithtr Mrs. fogey ors Mrs, Saunders- -knew. Fletcher-before this transactivn. It had not been clearly proved that the notes came into the possession of Mr. Fletcher, and upon this point he contended that the case for the prosecution had en tirely failed: Fletcher had not been apprehended till after this transaction was disclosed, and he was attending at the Mansion-house as a witness when he was arrested. There was no evidence that his client ever knew anything of fa will, and he submitted it would be going further than the evidence warranted, if they found that his client ever forged this will. Ths evidence was much too doubtful and. uncertain to warrant them in finding a verdict against his client. Mr. STO/ , it was about to address the jury for William Saunders and Lydia Saunders, when, Mr. justice WILLIAMS said that though he did not think there was no evidence to go to the jury with regard to William Saunders, yet it was for them to say, before the Learned 'Counsel addressed them, whether there was such evidence against him as was worthy of their serious consideration. There was not the least evidence that he had any knowledge of the uttering of the forged will—supposing it to be forged—which was necessary, in point of law, to make hire guiltv. They would therefore consider whether they would think it necessary for the Learned Counsel to address them for. William Saunders. The jury did not think there was any evidence against him, and they accordingly brought in a verdict of Not Guilty. Mr. STONE then addressed the jury for Lydia, Saunders. She was charged with a guilty knowledge before the fact, and with inciting Barber to forge the will and to alter it. The first evidence against Lydia Saunders was that of Martha Anne Neville. She had not seen her for a year. His client was was never seen by the witness without her bonnet. She said she had flaxen ringlets, but there was black hair found in the hair brush. It was sworn that Mrs. Dorey was in the habit of calling there, and was there anything improbable in supposing that the black hair was hers. The mother was a person of bad sight, and all she could say was, that she be lieved the prisoner was the person who lodged with her. Could they be satisfied that she was person who came with Mr. Barber to Mr, Wills. Mr. Wills had not seen her for more than five minutes, and ho had no distinct recollection about the person of the woman who called upon him. The most important evidence they could ad duce was to establish a similitude between the handwriting to the will and the ordinary writing of Mrs. Saunders; but they had not tried to establish anything of the kind. The Learned Gentleman then commented on the evi dence of Mr. Holt and Mr. Philpots, and begged of the jury to consider how unlikely it was that they could recollect the person of Mrs. Saunders, who must have gone to them as much disguised as possible, when, upon cross-examination, they admitted that they would not be able to identify any of the other numerous persons who transacted business with them. There was nothing, then, to identify the prisoner as connected with this will. Mrs. Dorey, who was a guilty person from her own confession, might have been the person. The note which had been spoken of was never seen in the possession of Mrs. Saunders, nor was her writing upon it. The witness Gorsuch stated that he saw her get into an om • nibus, and that it went in the direction of the City, and from this they were called on to conclude that she went to the Bank in order to get the gold. He said that she came in with a bag, and that when she laid it on the counter there was a jingle, as if of gold. Was it likely that she would lay it on the counter, or that she would take such a sum as 1,0001., which must weigh about 21 lbs., in one hand, as she was represented to do ? There was nothing in the evi dence to satisfy them that her identity was clearly established, and he entreated them to give the benefit of the doubt to his client, if they were not fully satisfied upon the evidence that she was the person who committed the fraud. The same evidence which was given in the former case as to the character of Mr. Barber was given before the present jury. They all stated that Mr. Barber was a person of re spectability and honour. It being now past five o'clock the Court adjourned till tc. morrow morning, when Mr. Erle is to reply. THE ART-UNION OF LONDON AND THE GOVERNMENT. The Annual Meeting of the Subscribers to receive the Committee's Report, and distribute the amount subscribed for the purchase of Works of Art, was appointed for Tuesday next, at Drury-lane Theatre, and all the elaborate arrangements consequent on the largeness of the body were made. On Monday last, however, the following letter was received at the office in Trafalgar-square : " Treasury, April 12, 1844. " am commanded by the Lords Commis sioners of her Majesty's Treasury to acquaint you that an institution called the Art-Union of London, having for its object the chance distribution of Prizes of 'Works of Art, has been brought under the notice of their Lord ships, and that they are advised that it is illegal ; and I am also to acquaint you that the further continuance of the same will render all parties engaged in it liable ;to prosecution.—l am, Sir, your obedient servant, " W. R. REYNOLDS. " To G. Godwin and Lewis Pocock, Esqrs., 4, Trafalgar-square, Charing-cross." The Committee immediately met, and a memorial was addressed to Sir Robert Peel, as First Lord of the Treasury, setting forth the nature of the Asso ciation, the sum of money which through its means had been expended since its establishment in the promotion of the fine arts—the fact that the arrange ments for the distribtitiorewere complete ; and that, if stopped at this moment, ireit li foss would be occa sioned to many artists, and praying that assurance might be givin that no legal proceedings would be commenced with the sane - tion - of the Government in the event of the general meeting being held, as already arranged. The memorial was accompanied by a letter from the Honorary Se cretaries soliciting the serious attention of the Right Hon. Baronet, and asking for an interview. Sir George Clerk, Bart., on the part of Sir Robert Peel, having appointed to receive the Committee this day (Thursday), Mr. George Godwin and Mr. Lewis Pocock, Honorary Secretaries, with Dr. Dick son, Mr. Gaskoin, Mr. W. Donaldson, Mr. Noble, Mr. A. Tooke, Mr. Troughton, Mr. Morant, Mr. Atkinson, Mr. Morris, Mr : Hayward, Mr. Collard, and other members of the Committee, attended at Downing-street. Sir GEORGE CLERK said Sir Robert Peel had placed the memorial in his hands, and that he should be happy to hear any observations which might be offered. Mr. GEORGE GODWIN, on the part of the Com mittee, then made the following statement :—The Art Union of London, since its establishment in 1837, (in consequence of the opinion published in a Report of a Committee of the House of Commons on arts and manufactures, in 1837), has distributed about 36,0001., independently of the present year's receipts, in the purchase and preparation of works of art, an has put into operation painters, sculptors, engravers, medal-die sinkers, modellers, and artists in bronze (a branch of art up to this time much neglected in England), to say nothing of the branches of industry encouraged by it, as paper-makers, printers, frame and glass-makers, &c. As an in stance of the intignitude of their operations in this latter respect, r. Godwin stated that 300,000 sheets of paper had been used for the series of out line designs about to be distributed to the subscribers of the present year. The Association had corre spondents not merely throughout the United King dom' but in our Indian possessions, Nova Scotia , Hobart Town, Mexico, and New York. Mr. God win contended that to bind together a large number of individuals by a common interest—an interest in the arts ofpeace—wasofitself an important re3ult, tending to good. A reserved fund had been put by without interfering with the subscribers' rights, and promised to produce speedily permanent funds for the advance ment of the higher branches of art. The Society had now been in, operation for eight years, increasing in usefulness, - and the Committee were confirmed in their views of its legality by numerous facts. Her Majesty the Queen was patron of more than one such association, and his Royal Highness Prince Albert had very recently expressed to the Committee of the Art- Union of London through Mr.Eastlake, R.A., his appro bation of its objects. Among the Vice-Presidents of the Irish Art-Union were several of the : judges ; his Ex cellency Earl de Grey was a subscriber. The Com mittee of the Edinburgh Society included numerous advocates, and, in addition to these points, the High Chancellor of Ireland, Sir E. Sugden, Mr. Fitzroy Kelly, Mr. C. Clarke, and others had stated their opinion that the Art-Unions, properly so called, were strictly legal. The Committee now found themselves with 14,0001. in their hands, a large increase over the • subscription of any former year, on the very eve of the distribution. All the elaborate arrangements consequent on the largeness of the body acted for had been made ; ar tists had filled the exhibitions about to be opened with their works, and, in the majority of cases looked to the funds of the Association for a return for their skill and labour. The effect on these of suddenly pre venting the application of the funds provided for their encouragement would be disastrous in the extreme; nor was it simply as concerned the funds of the Art Union of London that the artists would be affected ; he would speak within compass if he said that 40,0001. or 50,000/. were in the hands of Committees throughout the kingdom to be applied in the way alluded to; the point then was, whether without their entering into the question of legality, the Committee might proceed with the distribution, and wind up the pro ceedings of the year. He would maintain that the Art-,Union of London was not encouraged through the spirit of . gambling; and would prove it, by showing that with the exception of his Royal Highness the President, and men known to be patrons of art and above suspicion, the subscription was uni formly of one guinea, for which every man had his worth in the shape of engravings, the printed report, admission to the exhibition and other pleasurable and wholesome excitements. If they were prompted by a spirit of gaming they would be found risking their five guineas or their ten guineas. The chance of obtaining a prize was too remote to be a leading motion. For the opinion entertained of the Asso ciation by the artists, he would appeal to resolutions of confidence passed at a large meeting of artists, held at the Freemasons' Tavern, last year, and to the fact that Sir Martin Archer Shee, the present respected President of the Royal Academy, had been a sub scriber from the foundation of the Society, and had been found at all times ready to give them his advice - The exhibition of prizes would, he was sure, seem to Sir 6r'eor.ge . Clerk, who, he was satisfied, regarded the fine arts as im portant civilizing agents, to be of great service. Last year the exhibition was open four weeks, part of the time to the public without any limitation, and was visited by about 200,000 persons. The fear of the printsellers that the Art-Union of London interfered with their trade, and which had led to the present steps on the put of the Government, Mr. Godwin could not think well founded. Prints had been distributed by the Society in quarters where prints had never before been seen : the taste thus inculcated would make buyers; when one print was hung up another was speedily required. That the printsellers themselves were favourable to the Art-Union was proved by the fact that they attended the Committee of that Associa tion before transmitting the memorial, and stated that they had specially excepted it in their prayer. The question then was, are the efforts now making by the Committees of Art-Unions throughout the kingdom to be stopped. If the Government think that specu lators avail themselves of the existence of Art-Unions to injure legitimate trade, will her Majesty's Minis ters bring in a short Bill to place them on a more assured and permanent footing ? The immediate point, however, continued Mr. Godwin, is, can the Committee of the London Art• Union complete their arrangements on Tuesday, as announced, or must the artists of the • United Kingdom suffer the sudden deprivation of the means of remuneration which had been offered them, and for which they had been at work all the past year ? The question was one of great importance, and he trusted they might receive such an assurance, as should enable them satisfactorily to leep faith with the public, and avoid the threatened injury to a large body of meritorious men. Dr. DICKSON, Mr. HAYWARD, and others, followed in confirmation of Mr. Godwin's statement. Sir G. CLERK, who had received the Deputation with great courtesy, said that the attention of the Com missioners of the Treasury having been directed to the subject, they had submitted a case to the Attorney and Solicitor-General, and that, in their opinion, the whole of the associations referred to were illegal, and that it was thought due to the Committee to give them early intimation of the fact. Sir Ro bert Peel could not interfere in the matter—all he could do was to inform them of the law. He (Sir George Clerk) was himself a subscriber, and so were many others connected with the Government ; still, for the Treasufy to give any sanction to further proceedings, although he fully admitted the difficulty of the position in which the Com mittee found themselves, and the loss which would result to artists if the proceedings were stopped, was quite out of the question. If the opinions of the gentlemen were such as was stated, they could of course act on them if they pleased. The most pru dent course, he thought, would be to postpone the meeting, giving the subscribers notice to. that effect, and suspend proceedings until. it:cduld be ascertained whether or not the Legislature would protect that and similar societies. The Deputation then withdrew. The Committee have determined to postpone the meeting for the present, and it remains to be seen what steps will be taken by the artiste out of doors, to strengthen the hands of the Committee. Whatever may be the result, the rise and progress of this Asso ciation will form a most extraordinary page in the history of the arts. BAIL COURT.—(THIS DAY.) (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) THE QUEEN ANI) THE COMMISSIONERS OF SEWERS OF THE TOWER HAMLETS. Mr. Michael Scales, addressing Mr. Justice Wight man, said that, during the last term, the Court had granted him a rule nisi against the Commissioners of Sewers for the' Tower Hamlets, which was made return able on the first day of the present term. Since that rule had been granted, the Commissioners had allowed him to examine their accounts, and he had done so most carefully. He now sought permission from the Court to file an additional affidavit, containing some further most important information, and, with it a copy of the accounts. No part of this information, or of the accounts was in his (Mr. Scales's) possession when he was last before the Court. He also applied to have the rule enlaiged for such reasonable time as, under the circumstances he had stated, the Court might think proper. , - Mr. Justice WIGHTNAN—The Court, Mr. Scales, can not alloW an affidavit to be filed after a rule has been dated. The.rule . of Court is not to allow supplemental affidavits. • Mr. Scales—But, my Lord, I was not in possession of this information when I obtained the rule, and it is most desirable that it should be brought under the cognisance of the Court. It consists of the accounts I have exa mined, and of which I have now the copy in my hand. Mr. Justice WIGHTMAN—If you choose to abandon the 'rule, and make a fresh application for a new rale founded upon your new information and your old in formation combined, you can do so. Discharge your old rule, and try, under the new and old matter, for another rule ; there can be no objection t ) that. Mr. Scales—With all deference to the Court I think it would be better to allow this additional affidavit to be filed. It is very necessary these accounts should be brought into the consideration of the matter, for a greater fraud never was practised upon the public. Mr. Justice WIGHTMAN — The rule is inflexible, Mr. Scales. I can only help you in the way I have pointed out. Mr. Scales (in a very insinuating tone)—Could the other full Court help me, my Lord, if I applied there ? Mr. Justice WIGHT MAN—No. The rule is the same there as here. Mr. Scales—Any of the other Courts, my Lord—do you think I could.—(Laughter.) The Learned Judge , shook his head, and Mr. Scales retired. In a few minutes, however, he returned, and it was then arranged that the rule nisi already obtained should be discharged on payment of costs by Mr. Scales, and that on a future day he should apply for another rule, founded on the old affidavit and the new one com bined. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. Their Lordships assembled at the usual hour. Messengers from the Commons brought up several Bills, which were read a first time. The Duke of WELLINGTON and Lord KENYON pre sented petitions from Dover and Bolton-le-Moors, against the Dissenters Chapels Bill. The Earl of MORLEY presented a petition from Devon, against any alteration in the corn-laws. Earl CAWDOR, presented petitions, praying for an alteration in the new poor-law. The Marquis of NORMANBY presented petitions for and against the Dissenters Chapels Bill from va rious places in the north of England, and in doing ; so, the Noble Marquis stated that on the whole his opi nion was favourable to the Bill ; at the same time he thought there were great difficulties to contend with in legislating upon this subject. The Bishop of LONDON presented a petition from the minister and elders of a Presbyterian congrega tion in Ireland against the Dissenters Chapels Bill. Lord CAMPBELL, presented a petition from the North of Ireland, praying that Presbyterian mar riages might be legalised; also, from an Episcopal congregation wh o concurre d i n the prayer. The No ble Lord also presented a number of petitions against the Dissenters Chapels Bill. Lord LYTTELTON presented a petition from a congregation of Protestant Dissenters in Dublin, in favour of the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. The Noble Lord said that the petitioners represented themselves as the lineal successors of the original founders of the ohapel, and said that they had been buried in the burial ground of the chapel all their time.—(Great laughter, in which all their Lordships joined.) DEBTORS AND CREDITORS. Lord CAMPBELL said he begged to lay on the table a Bill for the purpose of allowing proceed ings to be brought against British subjects resident abroad, where cause o f action had arisen within this country. lie hoped that he should not be supected of any party purposes in introducing this Bill. But notwithstanding the many imputations which might be groundlessly brought .forward against him, he should continue to use his humble efforts for the pur pose of improving the institutions of his country. Some years ago, when a Member of the House of Commons, he had brought forward a Bill to abolish imprisonment for debt, ...both upon mesne process and. upon execution. A part of that Bille throughmempty t wyaas upon mesne process , an at the sam e ti me g i v i ng a more speedy and effectual remedy t o the creditor as regarded dopthPßteerude: while the r es t was di sm i sse d i n But great imp rovemen t t oo k p l ace enting of imprisonment for d e bt property of the d e bt or . He must the fraudulent debtor to leave this country, and res id e a b roa d, t own, hat gr however, eat facility i t l h i tay w t one a s g i thingw asve overlooked, viz., n t o where ne could set his creditors at defiance. It had been found by experience that this facility bad been taken advantage of to a very great degree. Power, indeed, was given in the Bill to arrest a person who was in medi tatione fuge; but if a man had a fraudu lent inteation he would keep it to himself, he would not suffer his creditor to learn his secret. He crossed the channel to Boulogne, lived there very luxuriously, and set his creditors at defiance. Their Lordships are aware that, as the law now stood, no action broughtbe England, u n l e ss process were jurisdicti on o f th e C our t, an d if a debtor e risdictio n o f th e C our t, there serv wentd i n aon out within t of Court o ht u he r e t jn in was no means whatsover of obtaining judgment against him. If a man had landed property, or property in the funds, or personal property t o a l arge amount, and he owed 100/. in England, he could go across the channel, and there he could not he reached by any means whatsoever, except through the precarious process of outlawry. Even if the outlaw were regular, the personal property being forfeited to the Crown, the creditors derived no direct advantage from it. The only course which he could pursue was to petition the Treasury, as representing the Crown; that a sufficient part of the property for , feited might be allotted for the payment of his debt. But this mode of proceeding was found in practice to be wholly . unavailing. There was an other most grievous inconvenience—viz , that the statute of limitations was in the mean time running. If a debtor went abroad and remained there for six years, the debt was satisfied ; there was no remedy to recover it. The-creditor mut, oue out writs and have them returned by the Sheriff of Middlesex ; but that was such an uncertain fruitless and expen sive proceedings that it hardly be considered a remedy at all. There could be no doubt in fact that great abuses at present existed, that fraudulent debtors were encouraged, and creditors grossly defrauded. What he proposed by this Bill was, that with the concurrence of the Courts of Westminster, when a cause of action existed against a debtor wile was abroad, process might be served upon him in a foreign country, ample time being given to him to make his appear ance, and his defence, if he had any to make; and that after it had been proved to the satis faction of the Court that he had been served with process • abroad the action should proceed against him as if he had been served within its own jurisdiction. The Noble Lord then read a statistical statement as to the number of English subjects resident in France on the Ist of January, 1844, making a total of 66,000. In addi tion to the number of residents in that country, it was calculated that there 50,000 persons who were there merely for some temporary pur pose. The expenditure of English residents in France exceeded it appeared the annual sum of 5,000,0001. sterling. Now he did not contend that all those persons were fraudulent debtors, but he believed that a considerable proportion of English subjects resident in France were there to set their creditors at defiance, and if there were only one hun dred who had left this country with such an object in view, he thought the Bill which he proposed to introduce would be a salutary measure, and under these circumstances, he begged to move that the Bill be read a first time, and printed. The Noble and Learned Lord gave notice that on Friday se'nnight he should move the second reading of the Bill which he had introduced respecting writs of error. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. The Birkenhead Improvement Bill was read a third time and passed. - NORTH BRITISH RAILWAY BILL. On the motion for bringing up the report on this Bill, Mr. LOCKHART moved that it should be post poned until that day six months. This Bill could not possibly be of any service to Scotland. Al- though fifty-six miles long it only came sixteen miles southward. As a local measure it pos.: sessed hardly any recommendations. The railroad would go along the sea-side the whole distance. Another objection to it was, that it would pass close under Holyrood Palace, and would therefore intrude upon the privacy of her Majesty. It would have to pass a strong arm of the sea, and could not therefore be continued with benefit to Scotland. Aline had lately obtained the sanction of the House, running from Lancaster to Carlisle ; and there would, therefore, be a direct line of railway from Euston square to Aber deen. A number of lines were projected, which would ultimately turn out to be competing lines. Under these circumstances he hoped the House would not sanction this measure. Mr. P. M. STEWART said it would require strong nerves in any Hon. Member to stop__ the Bill before the House in its present stage.—(Hear, hear.) A few years ago a Commissioner was appointed by Go vernment to report on the best line of communication with Scotland, and that Commissioner reported strongly in favour of a central line and objecting ;to the one now before the House. As the Caledonian line had not only the sanction of the Government, but the support of an overflowing body of subscribers, and therefore might be considered as a competing line, he wished to express a hope that that line, whenever it came before the House, should not be prejudiced by allowing the Bill now before them to pass through its present stage. He claimed for Scotland a fair consideration for every line of railway that might come before the House; and that should one or two lines be brought forward next session they should be opposed (if opposed at all) on other grounds than that this line had been already sanctioned by Parliament.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. H. HINDE hoped the House would accede to the present motion, but must say that nothing would give him greater pleasure than to. see other lines in connexion with Scotland brought before the House. Mr. GLADSTONE was not quite confident he should be acting right in saying anything on the matter before the House, but as he had been appealed to, as a Government Commissioner had reported upon the subject, and as he perhaps might save the . Howe the trouble of a division, he would venture to express an opinion. He thought there was no doubt if there were to be only one line to Scotland, the House considered that line should be a north-western one. Whatever was done now, or whatever had been reported by the Commissioners, ought not to prejudice the considera tion of any future line. He quite agreed with the Honourable Member for Lancaster (Mr. Stewart), that any line that might hereafter he brought forward ought not to be resisted by those who now promoted the one then under consideration. —(Hear, hear.) Any opposition that should be at tempted would not, he was sure, receive the counte nance of the House.—(Loud cries of "Hear, hear.") The amendment was then withdrawn by consent, and the report was received. On the motion of Mr. HARDY, the Northern Coal-mining Bill was read a third time. Mr. WATSON presented a petition against the Shoreham and Christchurch Railway. CHARITABLE PAWN SOCIETIES BILL. Mr. MUNTZ presented a petition from the pawn brokers of Birmingham against this Bill. Mr. DIVETT presented a _petition to the same effect from the pa wn br o k e r s a t Exeter. Lord J. MANNERS also presented a petition against this Bill. MASTERS AND SERVANTS' BILL. Viscount DUNCANNON presented a petition from Bath against the Masters and Servants' Bill. Mr. BERKELEY presented a petition from the Staffordshire Potteries against the Masters and Ser vants' Bill. PRESBYTERIAN MARRIAGES. Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition from Dublin on the question of Presbyterian marriages in Ireland. The Noble Lord also presented a petition in favour of the . ten hours' clause of the Factories Bill. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. F. FRENCH gave notice that he should, to morrow, put a question to the Home Secretary, as to the course the Government intended to pursue with respect to the medical charities in Ireland. EDUCATION. EWART gave notice that he should, to-morrow bring under the consideration of the House the expediency of voting a sum of money to be ap plied to the purposes of education. He also gave notice that he should, on a future day, introduce, as on former occasions, a motion for the total abolition of the punishment of death. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Lord ASHLEY wished to state the course that he proposed to take with respect to the Factories Bill. He had intended to move an instruction to the Com mittee, but that the Speaker had given him to under stand that it was not consistent with Parliamentary law to do so. The Speaker had likewise informed him that he would not be able to move the insertion of any clause till after the whole of the clauses of the Bill had been disposed of in Committee. That be ing the case, he thought it better to take another course ; and as it was probable that in Committee there would be no opposition to the Bill as it now stood, and the Committee stood for the 26th, he had determined to move on the third reading that certain clauses be added to the Bill for the purpose of carrying out the amendment he contemplated. Her Majesty's Government had concurred in that arrangement, and had given him to understand that they would arrange the business of the House so as if the Bill went .hrough Committee on Friday, the 26th, that the third reading would be had ori . that day week—that was, to-morrow fortnight. He would now, there fore, give notice, that on that day, on• the third reading of the Bill, he would move the addition of of clauses limiting the number of hours of work per day in factories to eleven hours, until the Ist of Oct. 1847, and after that period he should propose a fur ther limitation. On the question that the Order of the Day be now read, Mr. P. M. STEWART begged to put a question to the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her Ma jesty's Government. He wished to know if it was the Right llon. Baronet's intention to submit the con templated measure with regard to the law of banking, before or after the day fixed for bringing forward the Budget. If material changes were contemplated it would be a matter of consequence that the bankers should have early intimation of them, but if it was not contemplated to make any great changes of course it would not much matter. Sir R. PEEL begged that the Hon. Gentleman would not draw any inferences from the fixing of the period for introducing that measure, and if the Hon. Gentleman meant to make any speculation, he advised him not to found them upon anyprobability of great or unimportant changes. His Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of Exchequer had fixed Monday, the 29th, for bringing forward the Budget, and on the Monday following he (Sir R. Peel) proposed to bring forward the question of the Charter of the Bank of England,r in case he should fail of securing precedence for that question on the Tuesday. Mr. HUME said it would be much better to fix the day at once. Mr. BORTHWICK said it was now more than probable that on Friday, th e 26th, the Hk House would go into Committee, and h e w i s h ed to ask the e Right Hon. Baronet whether it wou ld b e therefore necessary to postpone the Poor L aw Amendment Bill, that stood fixed for that day, according to the arrangement made before Easter. 7 Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he was unwilling to disturb the arrangements which fixed before Easter the order of the business throughout the cur rent month. Certainly according to that that arrangement the Poor-law Amendment Bill stood for committee fos Friday, the 26th. The House had heard what his Noble Friend the Member for Dorsetshire had proposed. He (Sir James Graham) was anxious to meet the Noble Lord's convenience, and the convenience of the House, on the condition that it could only be done by disturbing the arrangement made before Easter, if the House would consent to the course suggested by his Noble Friend. The course to be taken, then, would be, that the Factory Bill would be read a second time on Monday next. It should be the the first thing on that day. The Committee on the Bill should be fixed for Friday, the 26th, in preference to the Poor-law Bill, which, in that case, if the House consented, he should postpone till after the Factory Bill was disposed of. The third reading could then be fixed for Friday, the 3d of May. If that course were assented to he (Sir J. Graham) would be able to answer the question of the Hon. Member for Evesham, that the Bill would not come on till after the next Order of the Day. Lord J. RUSSELL saw no objection to the ar rangement proposed, it being always understood that on the second reading they would not be precluded from taking any discussion which any Hon. Member might think proper to originate. He did not wish to delay the Bill, but of course it must be understood that no arrangement could be made of any kind having the effect alluded to. With respect to the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill, he supposed that if the Factories Bill took up any great length of time, the Right Honourable Gentleman would move the second reading of the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill on the Monday following. With re gard to any arrangement for bringing on the ques tion of banking on Tuesday, he hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would not be disposed to counte nance any such arrangement as a great many notices of motion stood for that day. Sir ROBERT PEEL said, that the Noble Lord would see the position in which he (Sir R. Peel) was placed in consequence of his acquiescing in the pro posals for postponement of certain business what had been fixed before Easter. He had intended at that period that the Irish Registration Bill should have been brought forward on Friday next, but in consequence of the request of the Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Wyse) he had agreed to postpone the Bill solely on the ground which the Honourable Gentleman had made as the basis of his request. An erroneous inference had been drawn from his acquiescence in the Hon. Gentleman's proposal, that the Government wished to shrink from pressing the Bill. He wished to remove any such impression, and he would fix an early day for the second reading of that Bill. Sir J. GRAHAM proposed on Monday to move, as the first Order of the Day, the second reading of the Factories Bill, and then the Ecclesiastical Courts' Bill ; and on Friday, the 26th, he shoold move the Committee on the Poor-law Bill. Mr. WYSE, in allusion to what had fallen from the Right Hon. Baronet on the subject of the second reading of the Irish Registration Bill, begged to re mind the Right Hon. Gentleman that he had stated, when he asked for the postponement of the measure, that the Irish Members could not be ready to take a part in the discussion under a fortnight; and he trusted, therefore, that the second reading of the mea sure would not be hurried. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that he could not fix an earlier day for the second reading of the Bill than that which the Hon. Gentleman had named. Mr. BOTHWICK was glad to hear the discussion on the Poor-law Bill was fixed for an early day. DROPPED ORDERS OF YESTERDAY. Several of the dropped orders of yesterday were disposed of. QUARTER SESSIONS BILL. Sir JAMES GRAHAM hoped thai his Ho nourable Friend the Member for Droitwich would consent to have the Order of the Day for proceed ing with this Bill discharged. He had received from the Recorders of several large cities in which Quarter Sessions were held representations to the effect that any legislation on the subject would be inexpedient. (LEFT SPEAKING.) THE WILLS FORGERIES. CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT. OLD COURT. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Eliza Rosser was then called and sworn. She said—l live at Bristol, and am in the service of Mr. Taplin. I formerly lived with the prisoner Saunders. He was a fishmonger. Before I left Mr. Saunders' service, Mrs. Saunders had been in London about two months. She gave me warning to leave in about a week after she returned. When Mr. Saunders returned home, she brought with her three silk dresses. While Mrs. Saunders was in London, Mr. Saunders left Bristol for a few days. Ile returned about a week before Mrs. Saunders. Mrs. Dorey on one occasion paid a visit to Mrs. Saunders for about six weeks. Cross-examined—hr. Saunders was one of the largest fishmongers in Bristol. lle was often absent from home. Mr. Edward Gill—l am a clerk in the bank of Messrs. Stuckey and Co., of Bristol. I know William Saunders. He had an account at our bank, which account was opened in September, 1842. He has an account with us now. On the sth of September, 1843, he paid into the bank one thousand sovereigns. When this money was brought in, I remarked to him, " You must have a mint in your house." The pri soner made no reply to that. The sovereigns were new ones. Cross-examined—The endorsement on the note produced I believe to be in the handwriting of the prisoner Saunders. I do not know the prisoner Fletcher's handwriting. Cross-examined by Mr. WiLxxxs—The letter produced I believe to be in the handwriting of Saunders. Daniel Forrester, examined by Mr. ERLE, said—l went with Miss Neville to Dorey's shop in Oxford-street. I afterwards went to Bristol to look for Mrs. Saunders. I took the dresses produced from the daughter of the pri soner Saunders. I took the papers belonging to Mr. Bar ber. The paper produced I found on the table in Mr. Bar ber's office. It is the certificate of Miss Slack's death. It was handed to me by Mr. Bircham. Cross-examined by Mr. WILKINS—Barber had been about an honr in custody when I took the papers from his office. The papers relating to Slack's transaction were tied up toge ther, and bore an endorsement to the effect that they related to Slack's affairs. I had been set to watch Mr. Barber's movements for some time before he was taken into custody. I began to watch him id the middle of November. I did not always watch myself. I directed occasionally some one else to do so. Amongst Mr. Barber's papers I took his diary for the year 1843. I handed that diary, by the wish of. Mr. Barber, to Mr. Freshfield. I handed Mr. Barber's papers to Mr. Weare yesterday. Applications have been made for copies of those papers. I took everything from Mr. Barber's person ; his pocket-book, keys, and everything that he had ; but they were returned to him several days afterwards. The keys enabled me to open drawers in Mr. Barber's office. I ransacked every place in that office, and I ransacked the cash-box. I did not go to his residence in Nelson-square. Re-examined—When I searched the drawers, Mr. Bircham, Barber's partner, was present during the whole time. There was also a gentleman of the name of Price present. The papers I handed to Mr. Freshfield were those which either Mr. Giddy, Barber's attorney, or Mr. Barber himself requested me to give to Mr. Freshfield. John Forrester sworn, said I took Mr. Saunders into cus tody in Edinburgh, on the 13th of March. I took his wife into custody on the 20th of March in the same town. The male prisoner waas taken in the street, the female at her lodgings. Henry Hyatt was then called, but Mr. GREAVES objected to his being examined, supposing that he was called to speak to facts which he had already stated on the other trial. Mr. Justice WILLIA:ms said the proper time to take any objection was when objectionable evidence was tendered. The witness was then examined, and said I lived at Mar low in 1840, and in that year I saw Mr. Fletcher. It was in May, I think. ERLE—Did he say who he was ? ➢lr. GREAVES objected to the question. What name Mr. Fletcher went by in 1840 had nothing whatever to do with the case. Mr. WILKINs said that if the object of the examination was to show that Messrs. Barber and Fletcher were acquainted in 1840, then they had attained their object, for he (Mr. Wilkins) would be ready to show that the parties were ac quainted in 1839. Mr. Justice Williams thought the evidence was admissible. The witness then said in 1840 Fletcher came to me, and said his name was George Jones. was evidently an attempt made to prejud ice the minds Mr. GREAVES again objected to this examination. rois i f the jury. Mr. the end think this had betterbo res erve d till Mr. James Gudge examined, said I am clerk of journals of ... the House of C o mmons. The d ßight Hon. Charles Shaw Le fevre is Speaker of the House of Commons. Mr. Freshfield N% , as then called and examined—l am the the solicitor to the Bank. On the 15th of November last I called on the prisoner Barber. I told him that I cam e from the Bank of England with reference to a sum of stock which had been transferred in the name of Anne Slack, under a will which appeared to have been proved by Mr. Barber, and which was irregular. He said that he remembered the transaction ; that Miss Slack came to him with the will, which was quite regular; that the property was mentioned in the will ; and that she stated that her aunt had died about six weeks before; that he got the will proved, and got her the money, which was all he knew of the business. I asked him who the lady was, and he said she resided in some street out of Holborn; she was a m os t respectable person, and he had no doubt that the transaction was all right. I asked him if she wa s i n t ro d uced, and by whom. He said he had no doubt that she was, but he could not, recollect by whom ; but he would endeavour to recal the facts; as to him it was a mere matter of business, and he knew nothing more of it. I told him th a t was quite inconsistent with the fact of his . having been in communication with Captain Foskett for some months before the alleged death of Miss Anne Slack, respecting this very property. He said he certainly had had some communication with Captain Foskett, but not, he thought, respecting this property, but he could not recol lect. I told him that his letters were distinctly respecting the property of Miss Anne Slack. After some hesitation, he said it might be so, he could not deny it, but that it was a mere matter of business, and he did not feel authorised in disclosing the affairs of his client. I told him that I did not wish him to tell me more than' he chose—that I should not at all press him ; but it was necessary that I should apprise him that a fraud and forgery had been committed, and that lie was gravely implicated in the transaction, having been inquiring and negotiating respecting this very property six months before the alleged death of Miss Anne Slack, and before the right of his clients accrued; and I desired to know under what circumstances he had so negotiated. He said he supposed he could tell, and he would endeavour to recollect. -He said Miss Slack was a most respectable woman, and that he bad no doubt that it was All right. I told lalin that way be side the question, which was, how he came to be interfering six months before he saw her? He said that he did not know that he could tell, or ought to tell, but he would refresh his memory; and he wished me to look at his books, that I might see that it was a mere matter of business with him. Ile then produced a probate, and his ledger and account book, which he opened. There was an entry in his ledger of 90/. proctor's bill, and 15/. for his own. He said that was all he got out of the transaction ; that his bill amounted as cast to 13/. odd, and Miss Slack made it 15/. The book showed the produce of the stock to be 4,500/., and the entry was signed " Emma Slack." I then told him that that was not the question, and he again said that he would endeavour to refresh his memory, and if I would call on a future occasion he would let me know the result. I told him that his cha racter was implicated, and that I desired to give him an opportunity to explain if he pleased, but I did not mean then to press him, but that I should report the case to the Trea sury, who would no doubt prosecute it; and that if he chose to send me any explanation, I would report that also, but that I could not delay. From that time to the time of his being apprehended, he never made any communication to me. The witness read this statement from notes which he made at the time. Mr. WILKINS—Now, Mr. Freshfield, put the paper by, and then give the statement to the jury without looking at the notes. Mr. Justice IVII.LIAms—That is a matter entirely with himself. lie may do it if he chooses. Mr. ERLE—If Mr. Freshfield wishes to look at the paper again, I submit that he has a right to do so if he pleases. Mr. Freshfield—l could give the account without the paper, but of course there would be variances in words. Mr. WILKINS —Of course, and those variances are what I want to hear. Mr. Freshfield—Well, then, I decline to do it. Mr. WILKINS—Very well ; that will do as well for me. Cross-examination continued—Mr. Barber expressed a geod deal of angry feeling. He said, "I hardly understand in what character you put these questions to me I wil fully omitted this when I read my statement. Mr. Barber did not express indignation more than once. I will swear that he did not say he must decline furnishing me with the name of his informant for the present. lie did not say " I think at the present time I ought not to mention his name." I have never been examined before. Mr. Barber did not offer to show me his diary. I did not instruct the Messrs. Forrester to watch Mr. Barber's office, nor am I aware that such instructions were given. It was about three weeks after I called on Mr. Barber that he was taken into custody. I never called on Mr. Barber afterwards, although he had said that if I called in a few days he would give me an ex planation. Re-examined—l told him that I should not call again, but if he wished to send any explanation I would report it. I have no part in getting up this case beyond reporting it to the Treasury. This prosecution is instituted by the Lords of the Treasury. Samuel Robert Goodman examined—l am the chief clerk at the Mansion-house. I was there when the prisoner Bar ber was first brought up, and when the forged will of Emma Slack was produced. After examination Mr. Barber applied to be discharged on bail. Mr. Clarkson said that further evidence would be brought forward, and therefore he apposed the application of Barber, and the Lord Mayor declined -ad mitting the prisoner to bail. Mr. Clarkson inquired if Fletcher was present, and no one answered. Soon after this Mr. Barber was seen talking to a person, who turned out to be Fletcher. Cross-examined—Mr. Barber cross-examined Fletcher and Miss Slack also. I have a copy of that cross-examination. Re-examined—When Barber ealled Fletcher as a witness, it was after the Lord Mayor had refused to bail him. The proceedings were kept waiting, I should think, a quarter of an hour, while Barber was in conversation with Fletcher, before Fletcher was examined as a witness. The forged will was here put in and read, as also was the affidavit for obtaining probate. The letters which passed be tween Barber, and Fletcher, and Captain Foskett, were then read. Mr. Edward Wolfe was then called and examined, and said—l am the articled clerk to Dlr. Flower, who is the at torney for Mrs. Dorey. The statement produced was made voluntarily by Mrs. Dorey. Mr. Wiminis said he could not object to this being pro duced, but he had to complain of his Learned Friend not mentioning it in his opening. Mr. ERLE said he would not press the statement, and it was consequently not read. Mr. Wolfe wished to state that, when he was examined before, he was understood to say that he was the attorney for Mrs. Dorey. This was not the case, he was articled clerk to Mr. Flower, who was the attorney for Mrs. Dorey. This was the case for the prosecution. The Court then adjourned. DUTCH PAPERS. AMSTERDAM. APRIL 13.—Last night we SAW in the horizon, to the south-south-west, the appearance of a great fire, and this morning we hear that, in the village of Aalsmeer, 46 houses in the best part of the village are reduced to ashes. Many of the inhabitants of these houses, among whom is the burgomaster, have saved nothing but the - night-clothes which they had on. A great number of cattle are burnt, and four persons are missing. It is suppossd that the fire commenced in a barn, in which a knife-grinder slept ; this man, too, has not since been seen. UTRECHT, APRIL 12.—We learn, from a respect able source, that the attempt to found a Euro pean colony in Surinam, will probably fail, as it seems to be attended with insurmountable dif ficulties. The incredible fertility of the sell is unquestionable ; but people are firmly convinced that no European can endure the labours of agriculture in the burning climate of the tropics, which is rendered still more insupportable by the marshy nature of the coun try. We must, therefore, wait for detailed statements respecting the undertaking before we can encourage our countrymen to take part in it. THE HAGUE, APRIL 16.—8 y a Royal resolution of 13th April, conformably to the Ist article of the 11th March, 1837, for the purpose of paying off the stock called Losrentin, bearing interest at 5 per cent., and substituting for it bonds at 4 per cent. interest, a nego tiation for a loan is opened to the amount of 35 millions of florins, divided into 55,000 shares of 1,000 florins each. This loan, we doubt not, is the precursor of a conversion on a larger scale of other descriptions of stock. —Dutch Papers, April 16. CONSTANTINOPLE, Mitten 27.—1 n consequence of the urgent representations made by the great Powers on the late executions of renegades who had returned to the Christian religion, the Porte has given a solemn promise to take measures that a Christian who, although having embraced Mahometanism, returns to his original faith, shall in future not be executed, nor put out of the way in any other manner. On the 23d of this month, the Bri tish Ambassador, Sir Stratford Canning, and on the following day Bourquency, the French Minister Pleni potentiary, had audience of the Sultan , who repeated to, them the above assurance.—AllgemeineZeitung, April 11 PRIZE MONEY FOR THE CAP TURE OF SLAVERS. THE FORESTER BRIOANTINE.—This little vessel, one of an old class, and this quarter omitted from the nary list on account of being condemned for sale, proved of some service in her last term of commission. She captured on the 12th of May, 1839, the slave vessel Raynha dos Anjos, and on the 23d of November, 1840, the slaver Recurso ; for the tonnage eTa b rn o iel u dwu n r st t h i wd e oea y s hf o a lia i ht i tw d het eee p srrt r 2ea3 o c st7itt e shor e len. d isn s lecs4f o otst f .r.,: w tai hw l nt i e i Nh e t h fiihocr se.ht3thf4woe,olrilnelsoll following h r eib)noega-f paid.or t An r na sand. er 1 811 601 z the sco ßaynhansecond class, 7 d l os 6s A . 9 n Anjos—Flag, s Tt h F i l r a d g ;3l. lo l / 3 . s .; 4 c d o m; c p d: oa Soho- s qua r e , p h . r officerstit h en s —fla g officer and Fo rfmo fourth, r 2 , 1. 1 1 8 8 /. 3. 1 1 5 1 5 d .. fifth, 11. 14s. sd. ; sixth, 16s. 3d. ' • seventh, Bs. Id. For the Reeurso—Comm ande r , 45/.145. 341; second class, 25/. 113.11 d. ; third, 12/. 15s. I Id. ; fourth, 8/. 10s. 7d.; fifth, 41. 55. 3d. ; sixth, 2/. 16s. 10d. ; seventh, 1/. Ss. sd. THE Acorn SLOOP.—Accounts of the prize Anna, a slaver captured by the Acorn on the 17th August, 1841, will be re gistered on the 22d inst. THE GRECIAN SLOOP.—Accounts of the slave and tonnage bounties granted for the capture of the slave-vessel hmarrra. seized on the 24th April, 1842 ; and of the Minerva, seized 28th April of that year by the Grecian, will shortly be an nounced for distribution, as they have been deposited in the Admiralty registry. THE WATERWITCH.—The following accounts respecting captures made by this brig, when under the command of Commander (then Lieutenant) Watson, have been deposited in the Admiralty registry :—Proceeds of refund of Exchequer and Treasury fees for the Spanish felucca Si, seized 2lth or for the 1839 ;of excess of expenses and tonnage b ounties the Triumfe, seized 22d July, 1842 ; for the Feliz Trilivenu i a with fifty seized 31st December, 1841; and for the Daquesade Meath a seized on 2 n 3 a d ge S b e o p t t i e n m ti ebserfi,irlBa42; launch,of renanfuinedunofkl3e9xewnpensea,, slaves, seized Bth of February, 1842 ; a gall ey, n launch,un known, withn am e e vine unknown,slaves s eizedsei e d 9t lth o f o F f unknown, seized 2 1st of e r b e ni b a rt; y ary , 1 , 84 1 2 842 a ; /Id a refund of expenses for a boat, name January, 1842 (restored). prize - m oney —The payment of of her Majesty's troops o f the Madras establishment, SECOND DISTRIE t U h T e I u O , I 7 O O a F i . m rl ed rE sh ß ar tm er s of E pn P a w c i c i oo u served under Major-General Sir A. Campbell, G.C.8., an d after this day , at the Secretary's Office, Chelsea Hopital. at the captures in the Burmese territor y , will be made on 45th, and 89th Regiments of Foot are the c T ia h i e bu l a s n t, 41st, ts. FIVE HUNDRED POUNDS LOST.—Mr. George Horlick, of Cranham, in this county, Most from his pocket, on Thursday last, as he believes, in Cheltenham fair, the large sum of five hundred pounds, 3001. of which was the Glou cestershire Banking Company's 10/. notes, 1001. in Bank of England paper, and 1001. in sovereigns. He had drawn the amount out of the Gloucestershire Bank in this city, the same morning, and imprudently carried it about his person.-- , Gloucester Journal. INTERCOURSE WITH FRANCE.—In the week, from the 2d to the 9th inst., the number of persons who passed between England and France was as follows:—TB; Boulogne, 1,133; by Calais, 369. At the correspozyliAg&tod last year the numbers were :—By Boulogne, 754; by lais, 34:6. 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RUMOURED LEGAL CHANGES.—It was currently reported in Westminster Hall yesterday, that Sir William Follett, the new Attorney-General, had retired from tha Bar, in order to go to Italy for the benefit of his health; and that, at the close of the present session of Parlia ment, Lord Lyndhurst would retire from the Woolsack, when Sir W. Follett would be appointed Lord Chan cellor, should his health be sufficiently renovated to en• able him to undertake the duties of the office. LLOYD'S.—At a special general meeting of the members of Lloyd's, held at the temporary establish ment, in the rooms of the South Sea llouse,-Thread needle•street, yesterday, the following vote was proposed and unanimously passed, viz.. 5/. to three coast• guard men and pilot, for saving the survivors of the crew of the sloop Ruby, of Aberdeen, wrecked near Wick during a gale On the ;.4th February."