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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. I/OUSE OF PEERS. WEDNESEPAY. - JUNE 1. ON the question for he third reading of the Droit- with Roatl Bill, Counsel were Called in, pUrittaot to • their Lordships' order, and 'Mr. ADAM was heard as Counsel on behalf of certain Petitioners against the Bill, at, considerable length. When the Learned Counsel bad concluded, a short conversation ensued. between the Duke of NORFOLK, Earls ofCovEN. TRY and CARNARVON, and the LORD CHANCEL. : LOR, relative to a propoSition • for hearing further evidence, respelling the Bill, which was deeid-, ed in the negative. A Clause of considerable length was then propos ied by the Duke .of NORFOLK, which, after some. observations from the- Earl of CARNARVON, count CARLETON, and the LORD CHANCELLOR, was negatived ; the Bill was then read a third time . and passed. Lord BERWICK took the Oaths and his Seat, as did Lord RIVERS, acceding to the Peerage on the demise of his father, the late Lord. A considerable number , of Bills, chiefly Private, were brQught up from the Commons by Mr. ALEX ANDER, Mr. H. LASCFLLES, Mr. HOLLAND, and other Gentlemc3. Amon the Public Bills, were the ,Clergy Residence, and the Coast Defence Bills. The Order being moved for second reading of the Bishop of Sr. David's Bill, on which their Lord ships were sulmoned, Lard AUCKL iiND rose, and observed the Bill was'one of that peculiarlinportatice, which not only merited their Lordships' Attention,- but a full and • deliberate_ consideration : as, unfortunately, the Personage 'who took. a leading Parr with reaped to tice measure; was unavoidably absent through. indis. po s i t i on , be would suggest the propriety of post. poning the discussion for a few,days, find under that ciinsidetation, he moved to deter the Order for, the second reading of the Bill, till Monday next. The, Duke ef' NORFOLK had no objetlion, on account . of thc.circumstitnee mentioned by_Ahe Noble Lord, to postpone.. -the reading' of the Bill for that interval, but observed that the Bill 'was of that importance, that some of • its ptovisions would apply to every Diocese in 'England as well as that of .St. David's. The -.Question was put, and the Order fOi the secon►d .reading of the Bill renewed for Monday next., - 'The Bills before the House were forwarded in their respeCtive stages, and those brought up from -the Commons read, a first time. On the occasion of the first reading of the Clergy Residence Mil, The LORD CHANCELLOR Observed, he should then move to have the Bill printed for the' use of their Lordships—the Prints in all probability would .be on the Table on Friday, and in that•case he gave notice, that ite shoted move the second reading of the Bill on l'tesday next. The Bill was then-, on his Lordship's Motion, ordered to be printed. • Some routine business was then disposed of, and the House adjourned tilt to-morrow, when their Lordships are summoned relative to Earl FiTzwiL. LrAM's proposition respefling the" conduta of His Majesty's Ministers. HOUSE OF COMMONS. WEDPIESDAY i JUNK I. JAMES was excused from any•fur. ther attendance on the. Ratirrorshire Committee, in ton,equence of the.denth of a near reintion. "Die AT rulttiEY s CiF.Ntilt AL of moved, War the ; , .'c rP. his mutant to the Clerk ciT tLe CrawiL, for a nos, Writ to tied a 'Wernher for the Boriirigh of Fernrmagh, in the room.o(Lord Viscoterit CoLi, now Ertl Of ENN L K dt red. SrFcit rf.la)rt;..(l a fiorn thec.imrnittee ap -flaintett rr) . try (lie rocritt; of a. Contested Election ft.r NztcLasrle, riot the Sitting-Nl9)bers were duly f didt tite Petitions were- not frIVOIOUS Of 41eXati,,U6. AdMind . 13E R ICC CEY moved, that the Committee ipp o 'i n t i ;d to .o!.tisoler the Woolly). Monufat'Aurers' 11111 ::110131:1' be ordered to report to tbe Htiase Tvlinutes 'the- evidence laid befoa therm—Or- 4 retl. '11:e .Report of the Cnrnrnitiee, on the Cotton 1' l anufaf3ureri' Petition way brought up, .and the Resolotioris read_antr agrerd to, and a Bill ordered. The Report of the County Bridge Bill was brought up, and the amendments read and agreed to. The . Bill was then ordered to be read a third time on 'Tuesday next. The SECRETARY at WAX brought up the Ar ! pr Estimates for the , year 1803, alid observed, th ;f t it was his intention to move them in a coturnittec of. Snrdy on Monday next'. Si i6,4ort r. Coin wait, moved for leave to brin g in a Bill to grant Magistrates a p g p,wer to allow an additional number of Horses to draw Carriages on the Turnpike granted. Liurd HAwnEsitati brought up tievei:d Papers relative to the late Negotiation. The LORD M AYO It of 'LortooN. .presitstpti B. r“ilion 'from certain Siik"Manufaeloters, setting forth' that the . Duty which it was proposed to lay on the Importation of Silk Handkerchiefs, by the Dill for Consolidating the Customs, would not afford them, as it was supposed it would; a sufficient pro— ttdion in carrying .on their Trade.-;-"Ordered to lie on the Table. Sir" vv , t., LIAM CURTIS presented a similar Pea,. tion from the Silk Weavers. of SpitA Melds, staling Otat they-could prove that the Dory of zs per Cent. which it was proposed to lay oh the Importation of Silk Handkerchiefs, from 'Peti, would not afford them any protceitoo their frade, inasmuch•as they paid a larger 1%4 upon the Silk they used in their manufaaures ! .. In both - instances the Peri tionera • prayed 'to be beard by Counsel.--The Pe tition was ordered to lie on the Table. Mr. BOOTLE wished to call the attention , of the CHANCELLOR ache EXCHE Q UER, Lathe situ. ation Of some persons engaged in carrying on the Trade of Potters. 'lt *bad been stigges!O to him, by two Persons who I;Jd e';'ntiarked bite 'Capitals in that' Trole ant.l who had nut f till-'vtry. ret:ehtli, • . • • • seen flit Scheilule relative to the Consolidation of the Duties, that they would suffer very materially by the Regulation which it was proposed to make, respeaing the iinportatiun of Chiro. As• these Persons woul.i be very much &fled by this Itcg,ll. larit n, he ITe,l CrtANcELLutt of the',Excii... ,Qtr Eit would vor 11iTSS the second reading oche Bill; ,until they had time . to lay their Case before .Parlia mcnt.. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER' said, that if the second reatung'of the Bill were to . be delayed, it would not `answer the Hon. Gentle. man's purpose, because- any alteration which he „might wish to mike could' only be made in the Com. mittee. Great i6ins - .had, been taken to circulate the. Schedule, and he was sorry that the persons al. luded to bad not seen it", but 'he 'hoped 'that if the CoMmittee was put off till Tuesday, they would have sufficient time -to prepare any representation they might wish - to make to Parliament: • 141,-.. CANNING rose: to give notice, that he should to.morrow• move for Copies of all the Re. presentations:Made by the Inhabitants of Malta, through the medium of the Maltese Deputies in this Country, or otherwise,* between the Sign. ing •of the Preliminary and Definitive Treaties of Peace - . The second Paper he wished for, *was a copy of the Dispatches of - Lord Corn. wallis,, containing an . account of the discussions between him and the French Minister at Amiens, on the 18th and nath of February, t So 2, relative . • , •, • Mr,. : -SHERIDAN observed, that as a Debate was to' come on next -Friday, the Hon. Gentleman had better move for the Paoar3 at present, that the Hotise might have the benefit Of than When the De bate came .on. • • Mr. CANAING said, he had consulted the No ble Secretary of State, and i: was by his wish that he had given.notice of hiS.intention to move for them - to.morrow. ' Lord tiAII'KESBUWY said, that with regard to the Second Paper, - h,e should• certainly oppose it ; with regard to the other, he did not. feel such strong objeliuns to it ; but he wished to have till to.mor. row to consider of it. •, Lod FOLKSTONP, moved that 'the Second At. tide of the Treaty of ,Amiens should -be read ; it was. read accordingly. lit said.that as it did not appear, that any thing had been "done to carry that article into execution; he should move that an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, pray. ing that he would be gradcusly pleased to give diredions for laying before the House, copies of all the Representations made by the. British Govern. ment on account of the steps taken by them towards carrying she said, Article:into execution. Lord HAIFIreESBCIRYsaid:he should feel it ne cessary to' move the previous question; or the Or. der or the Day, upon this, Motion. With regard to the "Article itself, it was the wish of Gentlemen to follow the example which had been set them in • the twoforrner Treat; s' .e, P eace 111 1763, and 1783, respeelins Prisoners of War: There was a considerable deal of contest upon this point, but Ministers thought .it their duty .to main ~in the principle. But the Frerich Government laid in a claim, which 'appear ed to be founded in justice; viz, That there .should be set against the English Account, all 'the foreign Prisoners taken by France, and who were in the pay, and' at the command of England.. .This slid not allude tc? the Austrian Prisoners, but to the Hessians, fanoverians, Russians, d;c: who avere 'in our . pay, And at our command. This, claim appeared to be - founded in•justice, and was acceded to—but it then became diffieult to ascertain, if there was a balaoce, on which side it was Jur. The great °hied that Ministers had in view, was rather to maintain the principle respeaing Prisoners of War, than' to Obtain any sum.of moneys 's After the Treaties of Peace' of 1763 and 1783, there were large/sums of money, due by the - French Government, and these was no aer.olf; as ;in the present case, whip were not pail. ' On these grounds he should move, that the other Order the Day should be read, not thinking .that sufficient groundchad been laid for the snotion. • Mr. T. GRENVILLE said; he did not think that the Noble Lord had given a sa tisfactory an.. saver to the mution.of the Noble Lord. Ir was not the objeCt of the motion to discuss whether it was their duty to proceed to'the completion of theseand Article of the Treaty of Amiens, its objet'; was merely to ascertain the fat% whether they had taken any steps or nor. The moving the Order- of the Day upon. the Motion-would not prevent any Member from repeating, the Motion when the other Orders of the Day were'gone through. • The ex. plmation of the Noble Lord merely went to chew the reason why Ministers had not endeavoured to 'carry the second Article of the Treaty into.execu. lion, but whether their condnet vas right ar not in that. point would he a suhjett for ilium discussion ; but surely it would not be.contended, that the 1 - I.iue ought not to be put in posse.Ssion of the fan, Y.lle. they that Article had been ,executed ot,not. GenereII'GASCOYNE, said, he understood from .hati. fallen. from the Noble SECIRTARY of SrAla, that no application had been made by the Btitiat Government for carrying that article into execution.---He wished however Tor some more ex- piicit'infortpation upon this stilled with regard to the number of Foreign Troops we were to pay for, and the Country to which they belpnged. If the . Noble Lord Ineant,to say that that article was in. serteti in • the '4'reaty merely as a matter of form, and that Ministers did not know whether a balance was due to this Country or to France, he was certainly answered for the present, but he should inove for some further information upon the aub. jeLL The Motion for )he Order of the Day was then carried. Mr. SHERIDAN gave notice that he .should make his Motion• to-morrow. respecting the ex. .changing the Lists on the Middlesex Election. 11/r. BOND, moved that a .new writ should be issued for the borough of Southwark, in the room of the 'Right Hon. GgoltqE TIRRNEy, who slice his eldlion had accepted the Office of Treasorer of the Navy. The Order of the Day was read for the third reading of the Dilitiria-Pass The SECRETARY at WM! brought up a ci jusc for iiivio4ing a Ptnalv of,sol, upOn pny High Cur.- stable, Adjuiant, Serjeant, &c. who should take Insurances for Privates in the Militia.=-The Clause was agreed to, and t!icll was passed. - - The Militia Bill was read a third time and passed. . . • The °islet Of the Day . was read for a second reading of the Consolidation Duty Bill. The LORD - MAYOR observed, that under the present circumstances. the Ship Owners did not ob- Jen to the Tonnags Duties, and therefore they ~withdrew their. opposition to the Bill. Gerreral GASCOYNE observed, that he thought the Bonding and Warehousing system was.matetiall)* connected in many-points with the present Bill, and he wished to know when Ministers intended to go into the consideration of that subjeft. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the measure alluded to by the Hon. Gentle man had occupied . much of_ the attention 'of His Majesty's Ministers, but it had.been . .delayedfrom a great pressure of business ; he hoped, however, to he enabled in the course of a short time to bring forward that subject, with respell to which it was proposed that no Duty should he paid in the first instance on,articles.warehoused, but as soon as the articles were taken out of the warehouse for con sumption, the Duty must then be paid; 'ln order that this measure should have the desired die& in different parts of the Country, it is intended that no licence can b e g ra n te d to t h e different Ports to warehouse articles, till proofs are registered chat such Ports have tis.,ll' a certain time in those .arti cles they wish to warehouse, and that 'there are suffi cient warehouses provided. After these proofs are obtained, it is not proposed to viable the Lords of the Treasury - to grant licences,„ without there are. some antecedent circumstances. It is also intended that every application for that put. pose should be submitted- to the Board of Cus. toms, 'Board of Trade,•and Board of Excise and if the application is approved of by .the Boards of Trade and Customs, and in some instances by the Board of Excise, - the Lords of the Treasury should he enabled to grant the application. The great °Ned in the measure proposed, is to prevent any abuse that may arise from unlimitted power, being vested in the Lords of the Treasury. He hoped the Bill noiv before the House would pass, as he thought it highly'useful to the Public ; but when in a Commit. tee, he should be/happy tto . hear.any remark on the merits of the Bill. Mr. CORRY said, he meant to propose, when the measure came again under consideration, to ex tend it to the Ports of Ireland. The Bill was ordered to be committed to a Corn. mittee of the whole House on Tuesday next: The House went into. a Committee of the whole House to consider the Consolidationof Taxes. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the measure he was'about to submit to the Commit tee, he 'thought Would be generally approved by the country at large, and particularly by those Gentlemen who had to enforce and explain the Law with raped to s faxei leviedon the Subjea.4 It had so happened that scarcely two Commissioners had agreed alike on the letter of the Law which regulated the various. Taxes of the Country, and men •of the first reaped ability and honour had been placed in-a very un pleasant situation, when in the discharge of their duty, from the ambiguity of some plot= Tax. Laws• It was therefbre proposed that the Taxes should be consolidated, and. rendered as clear as possible. The Judges - had. 'been ,often applied 'to for opinions on those Laws he had just mentioned, which had re - - peatedly given the Commissioners considerable tro uble. ; he s hould' now propose that the opinions anti decisions of the Judges, form a part of the new Law,. in order to •prevent the trouble which . has hitherto been felt by the'Commissioners of TaXes. In order that the Law shall not be oppressive to chose persons who ate obliged to give a schedule to the Corn. missioners, containing the Taxes they, are liable to pay, it is propased that they be allowed to make an Amendment 'ont their return, before they are sub. jet to any penaltyfor a false.statement. It is also proposed, 'that any hosbantiMan, gardener, &c. who occasionally •waits at table, should only pay es. per year. It wss alsti.proposed, that the stall of two guineaa per year should be paid fur every Race Horse, over and above the 'usual Tax on Saddle Horses. He should next inform the Committee, that it was intended that every Rider, Book-keeper, and Shop-mac, &c. should pay the sum of one guieetk per year ; this would be the means to enCooragf the employ of female tervan'ts ; and that those per: ,sons who have built, or may build windows under a certain size, with an intention to evade the Win dow duty, should pay the suns of two guineas per year for every such . window, The Right Hon. Gentleman observed,. it was very common of late for persons to keep but one set of carriage wheels, and Several bodies of various forms and names.— he should therefore propose a Duty on the Sociable and other Carriages; these,,, with some other a;te. rations in the Taxes, would, he had no doubt, meet with general approbation, and answer the pur. pose intended. Mr. 51111 F LEFEPRE expressed his approba. tion of the tut,asure, but observed there was one point lie would mention, which the Right Hon. the CHANcELLOR of the EXCHRQUER had not noticed, and that'was, a person keeping a dog for not more than three days, .was liable to pay - a year's tax. This, he thought, called for consideration and im- provdment. • Sir RQRSRT BUXTON said the manner of pay ing,the taxes, was much worse than paying them : he also thought the poor husbandman ,who keeps a horse for hiilabour, ought to be an °hied of con sideration. He was glad that the decision of the Judges on the Law . in question would form pan of die law, as it wopld pre - vent Much 'confusion; which has taken place op puny occasions. The CHANCELLOR of .the EXCHEQUER said, he was extremely glad that the intended tnea. sure would give g:niraT satattlion. The Right Hon. Gentleman observed there was an intention to exempt persons from the House and Window Tax who were known to . be in extreme poverty, und.l - regulationi. He was desirous that some regulation sho9ld take place with re _ spat to persons being liable to pay a.yearts tax for a dog, &c. they Indy only hay: In po6 . sc3pOti a few days. He then informed tilt ommittee, that the Bilt in question. ~~ was only intended for EnglAnd ; and that -a Di' would-be brought in to the sainecfreA for Sentlantl. The Report was then brought up, an& nAler o to be received to.mOrrow , . The. House 'went into a Committee of StirpY• The CUANCELLOk of the EXCHEQUER MOW Resolutions for cloathing the Nltlitia, and nylking•ar allowance to various Officers belonging to it. The House also went into a CO mmittee of WaV Means, when it -prOpcsea and—agOed that 'the expences of the Militia be defraked *out 0 1 the Land Tax. The liassengers' ,Bill was , ordered to he read 2 third time to-morrow. .. _ • The House 'went into a Commi ttee on the Co n. voy Bill, and the Report ordered to be received ti. morrow. 'the East India Shipping Bill was ordered to be read a third time on Wednesday next. • The Redemption Bill was read a•thitd time ad passed. A person from the CommissiOneriof the Ct 150315 in Scotland brought up • several accounts relative thereto. Mr. POLE moved for leave to bring in a Bilntl for vesting -CCITAIO Lands in the Coun t y of Ke, His Majesty's Government, for the use of the al. nance. • The House adjourned at 8 o'Clock. F rend► MAILS. ARRI Vig. 013411. 1 Hamburgit PRICE OF STOCKS, THIS DAY AT TWELVE o'CLOC`=• Consols - - S!; THE SUN. • SOLEId QUIS DICERS 1,61.11V1A AUDIAiI ~~, LONDON,' JUNE 2, 1803• . . IT has been longevident that some changes In tile . Government would,takc place, and it Wea rs I°l r` that tilt) , are about to commenc e. - The app ir ' (bc went of Mr. TIERNEY to ;be . Treasurer of Navy,..which we were the first to iintlotinCt, h 3, given the tcr- vniettrireculations- and reports. Among these, it 6'6611 r is serr ed, thai Lqrd Alutg A , the Admiralty by Mr. f o r the C. is to have a Cabinet Office --that in St. N i ls - CENT is to retire, and is to be succeeded in M 3 rqtlis of SAI;I:EURY ii to M AC room Duke of p o it.IL A No. Ste. We h ave not ascert, lined rtain the truth of these reports , hut we think'. it unlikely that Mr. TIERNEY SrloOld lie iIiSP ° St ' singly to join the Ad i"ldit i `' n'll ministration. It is' gen er " llY admitted that •Mini. st ers stand in ne ed `'f strength bu t surely the accession Y aR KI--tha t the sion pi Mr• Tr Etts t ' t cannot'be looked upon as affor ding it. I.Tpon thesvb, jea of Finances on which they wer e co ral dcfi ci ' l'f ' ~ lot he —. I . ...I render them service upon some }E)ii.• .: ._ duce him then it is also to be considered, sviv.rther Ili, litt l e attention he appears, from his Speeches in Parliamen ' in to have shewn to the Ahnied Interest, n),131 not l 1 acquisition of to propose popularitym ea s o t f tre ; s hosi which w b ;: s i e l I c n i l li t : be much to the the is now, of course, in future to espouse' . "1 d: . •,,e1 by many persons now in ofEce, and who have to Mr. TIERNEY may he feT el ' il stantly entertained Sentiments upon great POli!igi4 • Voints, opposite to his, we will not pretend ' ei termine. We understand this Conlitioff, o :i th IC' n ric l spea to. Mr. ADDINCTON, it !Gated upon ; 1. 1 e . other light than as a confession of wealcn l e" °II , e subject of Finance, and to such a degree, 111.- " ' i g''' cri willing I sacrifice ether ronsitiertdices t o srtc n CI that in this quarter. We b elieve we im l Y i ! '1) :: with ctinfidence, I, to tike place in consequence of this. Mr. I3RA- ° pc whom Mr. "Intßtizir succeeds, will of cour se prov idea for. ~ ~...-.• . . .• ...td li Our Port Letters continue to furnish oF. 1 '; agreeable intelligence of several valuable Cl t ure :' and amongst the rest a Dutch Ship frog 1!3i:0131i'lg" bound to Amsterdam, valued at too,oool. Stetl The French Frigate . La .. Capi4rF Cl Saturday, is arrived at Plymouth. She is p i 'guns, jand, as we have alread y stated, Domingo. Officit,l notice has been sen t from' t he 113t3y.°3 Government to our Post Office, that the ccauo/1 icd 1.! i*cirt with this Country must be at. an end, at ' art no longer permitted r lend the ,Yesterdatabout half-past twelve o'clock liis pt iFsT y arrived at Sr. James's, and held a Le vet , bc, which were present the ir Royal 1-lighlose'ho i Dukes of gl:fr and Cu mss Rl„Avgs the rchbisf ' ~.. . • This Day was p - üblislted, priCC Is. 6 d. • THE SUBSTANCE Of THE SPEECH , 'Dr . . THE RIGHT HON. WILLIAM PITT, In the Hours of Commons, on Monday, May *it °n 11° Debate on the War. Sol.! by C. and W. Nicol, Booksellers to llis 50' Pall-Mall ; and J. Aspernc, Suci:essot—to Mr.