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lAIPERtAL PARLI4MENT. HOUSE OF PEERS, MONDAY, JULY . . VIACUANT to, the Order 01' the Day, the Learned Twi g s (the LoRD ANC E LuR having taken the Woolsack at an early hour) proceeded to deliver their opinions seriatim relati ye 10 the Appeal, Lo thian and others v. Henderson, Riddell, and Co.. which had some time since been referred to their consideration. Ten of their Lordships delivered their opinions, of which it appeared that six were for affirming the Decree, and four against it. The ,Lotto CHANCEI.LoR quitted the Woolsack, a nd made some further observations on the case, and seemed to think that on account of the diß'er env; of opinion which prevailed among the Law Lords, it were better to give each an opportunity of considering the aggregate of the opiniOns which had been delivered. In this view, principally, he too 'ed, that the further consideration of the case be adjourned till Thursday ; which meeting the appro bation of the House was orderedaecordingly. The Royal Assent wits liven by Commission to the Lottery Bill, the Irish Army of Reserve Bill, the Bank oflreland Rcstridion Bill, The Irish 'Militia Subaltern Officers, the Irish Worktnehs Combination, the Scotch Militia . ' Families, the Yon Gl.isgow Paving, and the Southern Whale Fishery Bilk. The Lords Commissioners were the Archbishop CArecsaaufty, the Lotto CHANCELLOR, and Lord WiILSINGUAM• The Bills upon,, the Table were, forwarded in their oleveral stages. The Bristol Port „Bin was brought up from the COllllllOO6 by Mr. BRAGG!? and others, as were also two Private Bill 3. These were severally read a first time, and at six o'clock the llouse adjourned till togniorrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY ) JULY 11. A Mess Act! from the Lords stated, that their Lmdships had agreed to the Irish Army of 'Reserve and the Lottery 13i11, without any Amendment. Queen Ann's Bounty Bill was read a third time and passed. _ _ The Loan MAYOR moved for leave to bring in a Bill ,to-morrow, to increase the quota of persons proposed to be balloted by the Army of Reserve Bill in the City of London.—Leave granted. Sir CHARLES Pout moved for leave to bring in a Bill to increase the Funds of the Chest at Chat ham, to ameliorate the condition of the Pensioners thereof, and'f , zt transferring the administration of the Funds of,that Institution, to the Royal Hospital at Greenwich. Sir GYM. ELFOR D row to address the House on the question, when the Deputy Usher of the Bl ac k Rod appeared, and summoned the Members to attend the I louse of Lords. The SrE4KER, attended by several Members, went there, and on hi* return informed the H u n 3e that the Royal Assent I►; n i heen given by. Commi ssion to thei Lottery Bill, the Irish Army of Reserve Bill, the Irish Bank Note TI the Irish Work .. men's Combirhition Bill, an►l the Southern Whale Fishery NIL. On Sir CHAS. POLL'S Nlotian Leing put by the SPLAKER, Sir IFILLIAIII ELF() RD said, that had not a buggcstion come from the Chair for having the said Rcpott of the Commissioners of 'lnquiry read at the Table, he should himself have• made it, as that certainly was a regular mode of proceeding ; but he could not help thinking that a still more regular mode wnuld have been in the first "'twiner, to have moved for the House to take into consideration all the Reports of the CominiSsioners, because that would have afforded an opportunity of comparing the substance of those Reports with the liSSel [IOIIS of the existence of enormous abuses, in various de. part ments which were alledged as the ground for con. stituling that Board, an.l would have enabled the House to judge what Legislative measures aught to be aeopted in consequence of them, and he would undertake to say, that if instead of general asser. titans of the existence of those abuses, the particu. lar 'instances which had hitherto been under the eon_ truitilation of the CommiKsioners had been stated, • the House never would have conlentetl to the Bill for their appointment, because whoeyer read the s e 2ceport.l, must see that the abases exposed in them were neither in ilkir kind t+r degree of such atro. city as required the ioterpositiim of any new or ex_ traurdinary power to develope or controul them, for that the power already ',Obsessed by the different Departments of Government were fully ad evi te to that purpose, th;it the only ata of negleCt buted to the Managers of the Chest of Chatham was,that one,, of their estates had been underlet, Anti the other abuse consisted in the Agents employ. erl . by the Oat.pensioners having taken a larger poundage for their trouble than they ought to have done; 'this last charge, however, he thought very do4btfttl. The Pensioners were under no restraint whatever in the choice of Agents, of whom there were a considerable number, and at the first view of the ktitrje(l, therefore, it was fair to suppose th a t the poundage was that which was only a fair COlll - or their trouble,—Jt was in short an open market, where if the Mice had been too high, a sufficient number of competitors would appear to reduce it to a just standard. The result, however, of the whole consideration of the assertions which had been made when kur the appointment of the Commissioners for lairptirY into Naval Abuse s was brought forward, and of the Reports which had been made on that sohjeCt amounted to this, either that abuses of 8114 magnitude did raol exist at all, or that the Board of Admiralty had neglaied their duty in not bringiog tinder the cognit 7 imee the Commissioners in ; the first i nstance, 'time cases of the greatest importance, in which .the mot. mil was such as to require the roost prompt and immediate investigation. Wish reqpett to the Bill now before the Houle, he wai not incllntrd ink. Inediatc4' • to oppose it, although hr thuught the ne. resttty Qf 1 by no means aliparelll,.dnil he did not like the otiociple tin which it was futanital was mulling more than this, that if any abuses were found to exist in an of establishment, instead of 'suggesting me.sns to entre& them, the establish. inettt itself was to be overturned, and a new one substituted in its place ; he thought this a rash system of innovation which tnight lead to the most d a ingtrtm s consequence% He had no doubt that the Connuissioners had fairly and honestly executed the funttions with which they had been inveited, but he again stated, that no ground had appeared from their Report, fin- their having been consti toted at all, and that the abuses they had hitherto investigated were all previously known, and re. quired no other powers to correCt them than those which had been previously possessei by different departincnfs of the Executive Government. Mr. STURGES thought that every Member in the House would . oncur with hirn as to the use. 'lllness_ of ihe livaitution, which was organized upwards of two centuries ago, for protettinj those persons who had spent their lives in the service of their Country. There was now, it Itppeared, a surplus of 35,0c01. which he thought was sufficient to prove, that the institution had , not been mis. managed. He reprobated ;the taking the power and management of the Institution out of the pre. sent Governors of the establishment, for any new appointtnents and regulations that might be in con. templarion. Thete was no real ground of coin. plaint for removing the funds to other Governors. The complaint made of the Attorney not being able to give any reasonable answer with 'refilled. to the letting of an estate under value belonging to the institution, WAS too trifling to warrant a general alteration of the whole system, the Honourable Gentleman then took a view of different Charitable Societies • which, if altered on the same plan now proposed by the Bill inquestion, would soon be unhinged and in a state of confusion. He begged leave to refer the House to the Report of the Committee of 1798, which would shew that they thought it wrung at that time to alter the number of Governors of the Institution in question. How then can the Commissioners come into the House, and ask Parliament to change the whole system 1 0 Sir Wm. Et+koßD explained. Mr. COURTENAY thought there was sufficient grounds for the measure. The Bill was founded on the Report of the abuses, which must be pretty clear to every one who read the Report. He did not mean to attach any blame to the Guardians of this Institution, fur these abuses might exist with. out their knowledge. An Attorney had said, on examination before the Committee, that the House belonging to the Establishment had not increased in value ; and when he was asked to give at reason for the property not having been made the most of, for the benefit of the Institution, he could give.' no reasonable answer. Surely these were grounds fur the present Bill. Ailm;ral BERKELEY said, he had mentioned some Of the abuses to the Board of Admiralty, in consequence of which he was given to undetstand, that the Board was acquainted with the (tercets com plained of, and that the subjat was under their consideration. But now he heard the business was thrown on the,shoulders of his Friends. Mr. KINNAIRD t,bsereed, that the Objet of the Bill was to remedy the ahuses so notch corn. plaioed of in the Chatham Establishment. it ap peared from the Bill, that there was a deficiency of some thousands in the funds, of that Establish. ment, and that the Right lion. HE NRY DILINOM had received 2.5,.0001. ai Treasurer of the Nay>, by a Warrant of the Privy Seal. He thought,this was a circumstance that ought to he expl4i!wd. Mr, ROSE said, as to the sum mesitioned by the Hun. Member being taken out of the Chest of the Chatham institution, he would say a few words in explanation of the fad, which svgs simply this, that the deficiency alluded to arose from Mr. Adam Jellico becoming insolvent, and the sum was, on examination, allowed to Mr. DUNDAS, 00 blame being imputable to him ; but it had nothing to do with the subjeet immediately in question. The SECRETARY at WAR, by command of His Majesty, informed the House, that Captain Boknow, a Member of that House, had been put under an arrest by his Licutenant,Colonel, in order to.be brought to a Court Martial, ftir a breach of one of the Articles of War. The STCRETARY at WAR moved that. an humble Address be presented u, Ilis Majesty, thanking His Majesty for his most gracious Communication, and his tender regard fur the Privileges of that House: which was agreed to, and ordered to be presented by the Members of the Privy Council. The SVCRETARY at WAR postponed his Motion with respell to the Defence of the Country, till Thurday next: Lord CASTLEREAG lirose, and stated at some length the nature of the Bill he intended to move for leave ..to bring into the House. The principal feature of which was, to allow the Contractors of the East India Company an increase of the bum agreed to between them and the East India Corn. pang, prior to His Majesty's Message to that House on the Bth of March last. The Noble Lord entered into a minute detail of ;111 the circumstances conneCted with the Company'a affairs, as far as re. lated to their agreements with the Contraelors, and concluded with moving for leave to bring in a Bill for the purpose-above stated. Mr.;7OIINSTONE thought the Bill proposed was quite unnecessary ; he could by no means ap. prove ache increase wished for by the Noble Lord. The Contraftors had already gained considerably by their engagements. From his knowledge of the . Company 'a atrairi, and Icon a letter frilin the Secre. tery of the Direi.'tory, he did not think there was any cause fur the Company to spew their liberality, when persons came into the Matket openly, an d offered to do bip.iness at 17i. per ton, he' thought the ContraBors could not be hurt, who hail agreed with the Company at 201. pt t MI. It is now pro. posed to give the sum of Five Thousand Pounds per Ship to these Contrattors, and many !Instill * were to he found ready to cote./ into Contrads at the sum of ;91. 17s. per ton. Mr. Footse's was of opinion that it was not wi , e to open a eon( rat after it had been once made, fu, the purlanse of alteriin , the tanns of it. kV.I r ...... i;;*/ 4 Old; it'd, tended that the East In,lia Company ought to be liberal in their contrails. A short conversation ensued in which Mr. Rost, Mr. GRANT, and Mr. ATKINS supported the mo. tion, and Str WM. PULTRNZT opposed it ; after which leave was given to bring in the Bill. Mr. Ftt ANC IS 1111Ved that there he laid heforethe House an account of the capital stock of the East India Company, with an account of the time when . - the different subscriptions were paid. The further consideration of the Cotton Weavers Bill was put off till Thursday._ LOrd CASTCER EACH delivered a Message from His Majesty, stating that His Majesty had been pleased to grant to the late Lord Amherst, a craft of land in Canada, for his services in America, particularly in Canada ; but some circumstances had arisen which prevented flis Majesty's gracious in. tention from being carried into effeel ; that His Majesty had ordered the proceedings to be hid he. fore the House, and trusted that the House of Com. mons would take measures fir making compensation to the heirs of Lord Amherst, &c. The Message was ordered to be take n i n t o con sideration on Friday next. The Bell Rock Light.liouse Bill was read a third time and passed. Mr. H. BttowNE brought up a Bill for grant ing 20,0001. towards making a Canal in the High lands of Scotland. Read a first, and ordered -to be read a second tune to-morrow, Mr. JoHNSTUNB moved that there be laid before _ the Hnuse, an account of the rate paid per Ton by the East India Company, from the first of January /78+, to the latest period, distinguishing the nature of the voyage, and class of ships,--Ordered. The Irish Malt Duty Bill went through a Com. mittee, and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. Mr. OW EN S , from the East India-House, pre sented several Accounts. Mr. VANSZTTART moved to discharge the Order of the Day which stood for to.morrow, for the fur. ther consideration of the Report of the Property Bill, in order to fix it for Wednesday : He made thin Motion because the. Bill had not been printed in time to enable the Members to consider it fully. Sir ROBERT BUXTON, said he hoped the Bill would not be put off; as he knew several Mem. hers had staid in town, in the expeftation that it would come on on Tuesday, and their presence was now peculiarly necessary in the country. Mr. VANSITTART said, the Motion was made at the request of several Members who stated that they had not had time to consider the Bill. The Motion was agreed to. • The Irish Treasury Biils Bill went through a Commit tee. Mr. CORRY stated, that if the Loan for One M,llion was contratted for in Ireland, he should have the honour of staling it in the Committee of Ways and Means on Wednesday, in which case it would not he necessary to proceed with this Bill. Flc also stated, th a t hi s Ri g h t Hon. Friend (Mr. WICKHAM) had given notice of a Motion for ex. tending the 24th Geo. 11. respeCting Justices of the Peace, to Ireland. His Right Hon. Friend had been co,fined to his house by iAispo4tion;and if h e was unable to attend, he (Mr. CORRY) would make the Motion. The Irish Revenue Bill was read a third time and passed. - Sir FR ANC IS Bo IttaTT gave notice that he should to.morrOw submit to the House a motion relative to the late fraud upon the Bank. Mr. VANSITTART moved for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Statutes tel.itive to the Thames Police—Leave given. Mr. VOISITTART moved that the House should nn Friday• resolve itself into a Committee on the 36th Gto. 11. relative to the discovery of the Longitude,--Ordered. Mr. VANSITTART gave notice also that he should to-morrow make a motion fur leave to bring in a Bill to grant relict to Captors of Prizes. The, .I)ublin Harbour Bill was read a third time and passed. The Guernsey Corn Bill went through a Com mittee, and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The report of the New Forest Black Game Bill was brought up and agreed to, and the Bill was or. tiered to he read a third time co-morrow. The Hill to corred a mistake in the Grenada Loan Bill, was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. The Portugal Wine Bonding Bill went through a Committee, and the report was (mitred to be re. ceived to-morrow, Mr. VANSITTASLT moved that the House should to.morrow, resolve itself into a Committee to con. skier of the ditties under the management of the Commissioners of Taxes, for the purpose of making some alterations in the Bill now before the House. The other orders of the day were put off, and at eight o'clock the House adjourned till to-morrow, MM Lb. DUI. AIIIIIV ID. liamburglt 4 PRICE OF STOCKS, 18 DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK. Consols Ex. Div. - -53 i I (Thlium - - - Si Dis THE SUN. DICSRI 141./Vlll AUDI•T ? LONDON, Jun- 12, IEO3. Vi this morning received Paris and Brutish P.►hers to the 9th instant. The illonittur contains the Official Account of the taking La Minervr off Cherbourg. It does appear that they gut her off soon after she struck, It is stated very vaguely in one of these Papers, that the Prussian Minister here had offered the mediation of his Court, and that the answer was, No otcdit, we think, can safe'y be attache,' to such loose and unauthorized statement,. The Prurselr Papers 'contain «•me important In telligence from Hanover, and the Banks of the Elbe. It appears that the French seem determined to cross that River, which the Hanoverian% seen as determined to oppose. The ostensible objet Fu the advance of the French Army across the Elbe, k to disarm the Hanoverian Army, in fulfilment of the Treaty of Sub/iNgen ; bin we presume they must have more important otijeds in view, as they meditate the crossing at three different placer.---• The next accounts from that quarter will be into• resting. There is nothing in these Papers respeaing the free navigation of the Elbe being restored : indted the move:neat: of the French Army in Hanover seem to destroy every hope of such a measure being in contemplation. Akxandria, in Egypt, has, fora time at least, been wrested from the Porte by a part of the G3rrison, who mutinied from want of pay, and and after committing great excesses, made them•` selves masters of the place. A Letter from Amsterdam, of the 4th inst. says, 66 We arc informed that the French GOvernment has demanded, in the most precise manner, that similar measures should be taken in this Republic as those adopted in France, to prevent every kind of commu. nication, dirett or indired, with Ergland. It is expeled that the exportation of every kind of pro. visions will be severely prohibited ; orders are already given for the examination of vessels at their sailing, anti for sequestrating all those whose paper. are not conformable to regulation, 4:c. These measures of precaution arc necessitated by circum stances, and particularly by the illicit exportations , which have for some time been increasing. Those who embark in authorized commercial speculations, will not be interrupted. They will particularly find safety and protection in their operations, if they take the precaution to submit their Passpord and Bills of Lading to the inspettion of the French Commercial Agents : after this formality, the? have nothing to fear in case of being visited by the armed Ships of that Nation." The First Consul war expeeted to reach Bosieis as this day. The French Funds on the 7th, were v. 4,0, Windsor Terrace was so extremely crowded 00 Sundry evening. that it was with'the greatest tlifE, citify the Company could pass : they began to asserts* hle at six o'clock—among the Company we no ticed the • Earl and Countess of Uxbridge, the Countwes of A y les bury Radnor, and ; the bishop of Norwich and beau' tituCtlaughter ; Ladies Dormer, Thynne, and Howe ; Nlts. Dm, Mrs. Stanhope, and Mrs. Bontoy ; Misses Goids oor • thy and Hammond ; INdr, and Mrs. I'rvernintle, Nlr. and Miss Harvey, Mr. Davenport and family, Cenerals Garth and Harcourt, Major Desorov and the Otticersof the 13th Light Dragoons. The ROMA*. FAMILY entered soon after seven o'clock, when they were saluted with three B a nds • playing Gad Save the King. THEIR. MAJE sT 65 . frequently conversed with the Nobility and a not ber of other persons. The koym. FAMILY remained on the Thrice but a short time, in consequence of having appoin t * ed to hear Mr. WESSLIY, the celebrated performer on the Organ, anti retired about eight o'clock t° the new Music. Room in the Castle which looks O the Terrace, where they drank tea, while .Mr. WESSLEY gratified them with several grand piece! of sacred Music, with which fits MAissYY vouch pleased that the RoyAL FAMILY listened him till near ten o'clock, when they returnee the Lodge. Yesterday morning HIS MAJESTY, the MO ° f. CAMBRIOtiIt, and the PRINCESS SONIIA, a cColl" partied by Generals GARTH and HARCOURT, Wilia l)ssaßow, and Lady TitYNNE, to o k an airing 1 0 . horseback in the Great Park, where they were met by LORI) HENLEY and Mr. FREEMANTLfi lo joined the Royal party, and they continneitt °lj ( i ride thtough.thePlantationt. Hit M AI F stir+ a" • the Pelt+Crscs, attended by the Countesses RA D ' NOR, AYLEsSURY, Mrs. DItAX, and Mrs. 5v; 141 ,.. HO? e, took an airing to Irugmore, an d walked the gardens. Yesterday' , the LORD MAYOR held an Espeeis l ' Court of Aldermen, for the purpose of considerit4 Lord HOBART'S Letter to his Lads:lip respeaint the hest way of raising Armed Associations for the Defence of the Metr,poli3. The Court, after de' biting nearly three hours on the subjed, came tP several .very strong Resolutions (See front of ti! Paper for particulars). No other nosiness was de ne excepting ent er i ng t h e new Sh er iff s i nto bona r o take upon them that Office on Michaelmas Day nex t ' We see at last with great satisklion the deter" urination of some of the Counties and Corpora l ; Bodies to a dd ress t h e Ki ng on t h e ' present state affairs, anti to assure him of the support and.tiel lion of his People at a crisis s o m oment ous. L 0,,, RoLLP proposed this at the meeting of Devon' ' t l.; Thursday, an example which we trust • "I zealously followed by all the Counties and Cities O' the United Kingdom. On Monday the 4th inst. a very numerous 011 ' i . highly respettable meeting of the Citizens and IL': habitants of Bristol and its vicinity, was held at 1 1 Guildhall, convened by the Mayor, to conside r .° the propriety of forming a Volunteer Mtlitary A S : soCiation of Infantry in the present emergen2 l : when the Mayor having taken the Chair, th e w„ - motion of such a Corps was unanimously resolved 010 and several other Resolutions were. entered in", which were to be transmitted to Government, by purpose Committee, chosen for the