The Sun. — London, England, 1839-09-10 00:00:00

1-I,ccENING EDITIO/%1 WATERFORD ELECTION. (From thq Walerjord Chronicle of Sept. 7.) TRIUMPHANT RETURN OF MR. WYSE. About ten o'clock yesterday morning the Mayor and a large body of the citizens accompanied Mr. Wyse from the Town 1 - 1411 to the Court-house, which in a few minutes became densely crowded with individuals itillous to wteess the re-election of the Honourable ientlemPA, as representative of the city of Waterford. There Were a few Conservatives amongst those present, bet the leaders of thtat party did not make their ap- D:arance. Mr. Wyse on entering the Court was greeted by an unan9-ious burst of acclamation, which continued with unabated enthusiasm for a considerable period. Mr. Sherif DENNY opened the proceedings by ob serVing, that they were met that day in obedience to the writ of her most Gracious Majesty, to elect a fit and proper person for the representation of Waterford, in the room of Thomas Wyse, Esq., who had accepted the office of Lord Commissioner of the Treasury. The Sheriff then read the precept in an audible tone ; and on the e,onclusion of its perusal said that he would be ll'ilpr,y to hear any gentleman who InAl an observation tts make on the subject for which they had met. — (Cheers.) Sir BENJAMIN Mortals, D. L., then came in front of th:. hustings, and wos received with acclamation , — He >aid—nr. Sheriff, and electors of the city of Wa terford. At the last eleetiun I had the honour to pro p,,se as a tit and proper representative of this City the Honourable Gentleman whose recent appointment as Lori of the Treasury has created a vacancy which we are now about to supply in the person of the same dis tinguished irelividual,—(Cheers.) That appointment so creditable to the Government, is, gentlemen, satis fa,tary, not only to the citizens of Waterford, but to the people in every part of the empire—(Cheers)— and shows the friendly dispositions of Ministers to wards this country.—(r:ontinued cheering.) Gen- tiemen (said Sir Benjamin) to attempt to eulogize the chorartsr, talents, or parliamentary career, of your late honourable representative, so well known as they are to :,ou, would be superfluous, I sill, therefore, hope for a renewal of your confidence to Thomas Wyse, Esq., of the Manor of St. John, as the most fit and proper per an to represent the City of Waterford in Parlia went.—(lteiterated cheers.) WILLIAM :kILwARD, Sen., Esq.—For the fourth 1 , time, Mr. Sheriff and Gentlemen, I have the honour to second the nomination of Mr. Wyse as a fit and Prniler person to represent this City in Parliament, — (Cheers.) I shall not lessen the effect of the observa tins which I am sure that Hon. Gentleman will make to you by dwelling at any length on his Parliamentary conduct ; 1 refer you to 4 his own speech, for an ample explanation of that conduct.—(Loud cheers.) Mr. CURTIS—Is this the time before Mr. Wyse speaks far an elector to address himself to the meeting? The SHERIFF—I am instructed that the usual course is for me to make proclamation, and if no other candi date appears the gentleman proposed is to address the ei,ctors. Proclamation was then made in the usual form, and no other candidate appearing, fir. WY fSt came forward amid a loud burst of acela ' notations Nom all parts of the Court, and spoke nearly to the following effect :—Mr. Sheriff, and Electors of the City of Waterford-.4 again stand before you to solicit the renewal of your confidence under new and pe culiar circumstances. I have been appointed to office unexpectedly, and unsolicited on my part, and the Con stitution (tails on you to d ec id e w h et h er , i n t hi s new position, you have that reliance on my principles and coo act, and on those o f th e G overnmen t w ith w h om I i ticrk connected, as will justify you in committing again , to m , bandit the .trust with which y ou h ave so often 1 ~?nourealine. I admire this wise provision of our Con stitution, and am rejoiced to have the opportunity it nods of placing both my past conduct and future views unreservedly before y ou . Id o not cons id er t hi s appoint ; tont in reference to myself individually ; but in reference to you—in reference, above all, to the principles which 1 `have advocated—in referen.ee to the country and cause with whi c h I h ave b een so l ong assoc i ate d . M y own ,/ personal claims talay be slight, nothing would be gained t by recognising them ; but it is of some moment to the liberal opinie ms , for which you as well as I have strug- I Fle( 1, to f.nd them ao sanctioned by the Government. It , IS now some yeart it since first I appeared in public life, i i au` j ... I regard i t as a matter o f j ust pr id e t h at I h ave neon able t o g i ve my h um bl e co-operat i on i n the pass i ng E . , of most of' the greatest measures of our own times. In tie straggle for Emancipation I was not behind—in the ,' uielearable election for 1826 I bore my part ; and I had , tl - 0: satisfactio n o f p ersona ll y s h ar i ng i n t h e tr i ump h o f ) a cause which has hterr a boon, not to the Catholic only, but to the Protestant—•o all classes—to every sect in the land. Emancipation was not merely the ppredecessor, but the cause of Reform. Until the na tional mind had been diverted from the contentions it produce's, it could not devote its combined energy to this new question. Until men had gaited a Constitution it was not to be expected they would think of its re form. Until new blood had hem poured into the State it soas net likely it would be strong enough to throw off th' uallady under which, in its very seat-of life, the re. prcie/Aative system, it lay_oppressed. One organisation i showed h o w o th ers m i g h t b e f orme d . We, Irishmen, taku l lit England and Scotland how the Reform battl e might be won. Night after night, as day after day, I I voted upon the two great discussions of that memor. able Bill, and if neither has yet produced all the good . a.ntieipate4, it is right to consider the other side of the question also, and ask what would now be the condi tion of those countries, if neither had yet been passed. 'Fire delay in passing, the delay in working into opera tion what bad been passed—these are the flaws and drawbacks, and neutralisers of the good intended ; the apprehension of carrying too far the principle, these are the obstacles to still further good, against which Liberal I opinion has still to contend. In a reformed House of Commons, was passed the great act for the annihilation of slavery--the most e glorious trophy which these coun tr es can claim, amongst the many over the enemies of human civilization. It is noble to see a great people doing this homage to virtue ; the expense was great, the sacrifice large and prompt, but the victory achieved worth all, and more than all, that even this richest of all the countries of the earth could pay. It was not aectarianism,laut religion, not franchise or privilege— but in its purest sense, freedom. l thank God, I as• sisted in that act of atonement. I helped to cast away the stain—l have followed the many important measures all the offspring of the same Reform principle—all deve lopments of the same impulse, carried with more or less i energy into action. In all these instances I voted for I the extension of popular rights, the consolidating of popular instituti ons . I carn i s tly su p porte d M un i c i pa l ißeform, and th e amendment of th e P oor -l aw s y s t em , the cheapening and improving the administration of jus lice, the widening the range of agricultural and com mercial industry, the raising the condition of the peo ple, in their physical, but especially in their moral and owe Lel condition, and in mitigating, as far as in me lay, al s those causes of social or religious discord, with which noth islands have so long remeined affected. But with this general outline of my conduct and opinions you are / a!' zady acquainted. This is not the first time I have had i . de satisfaction of addressing a Liberal constituency. , em the first time I had the honour of sitting for the ti eaty of Tipperary,'down to the present moment, I i had no reservation upon either. I have been as . e' e 1 . k with you as you with me, and the trust commit , . 1 has been the reward of mutual confidence. It will t • sore immediately, therefore, to the purpose to con -1 s. , s myself to those particidstr questions and proceedings ahich have engaged us during the recent Session, or from the period I last met you on these husting , , and which may be the subject of discussion or enactment iits the ensuing. Colonial policy engaged the a tt en ti on I of Parliament a considerable portion of the Session. ' Jamaica and Canada formed the chief objects of legisla- Linn. No man can be more opposed than lam to any Infringement, even in forms, of solemn compacts between elation and nation ; constitutions are worth little if they n 1 merely for the convenience,sLthe stronger ; of all injuries Whii,h Can he inflicted •ti. nation, the most injurious event of itself, is a violation of the freedom of another. But names are not things. The compact between England and Jamaica, was not a compact be t,aeen tv,o co-oritiaate nations : it was rather a sort of P. (rnissive constitution over which the laws of tha pa rapiount state if opP-esed, might easily ride—the liberty r of on e stele oone period is not the liberty of another —the liberty tif Spartae.us and Massaniello, was not the ar hefty of Cato or of Wadli ng t on The mode of action a:ay have b een injudicion- but the mother state could , • cot permit that one of her in so many int erests , involving such unquestionable ' righta, securing Si) much, n such well-merited national glory, should he curtailed or rendered Mope . rative by the mere personal intere* of community. The red em p t i on of the slavesany class of her had already been quickened by the short en i ng of the period of apprenticeship. Th e whole, weight of the national will had been thrown into this great question of ema ' ti e r ) . There was no violation of a Constitution—theren'P a - was no infringement of liberty. There was the redemp people, even for the advant age o f their former masters. of a mas ters. The Canada question was one o f still higher importance. Much as I lament the late and present state of that colony, I cannot ascribe to the present Adiuinistration, its existing disorganization. The hitter fruits which we are now gathering are from the tree planted by former mi4,soveroment. In their early ph y _ sical and social condition lay elements of almost inevit able discord. Of different races, different religions, go verned from a distance, governed by men ignorant of their habits, feelings, character, history, it required the moat minute inquiry—the most patient attention—the most impartial resolution, to correct these causes in their outset, and repress the principle of revolution by the . surest of all meanie the redress of grievances whilst yet in the bud. If this has not been yet effectively Idone by the present Ministw, they are not the men who are first, to be blitneil. They gave large powers ito an enlightened and energe ti c statesman, Lord Durham, for these purposes ; if they were not exercised e; had been anticipated, if even in the beginning obstacles were thrown in the way, not to Lord Dur- ham or to time who sent hittn was this maimed and itnperfect result to be ascribed.—To legislate with effect, we must legislate on facts, and facts are not to be had without inquiry. The law, which it to be found in the piece of parchment only, whioh we send forth from Parliament, and not in the *envie tions and habits of those for whom we legislate, wi not only be injurious, but insulting as well, as injurious. An effective law must be the ratification only of the general innate sense, we must first pass it in our minds and convictions, before we take it from the Legisla ture. Such was the motive for delay till 1842—such end seems to be proposed by some of the late ancestorial changes. The East formed another item of our discus sions. The active measures taken in that quarter ap peared to some to be aggressions somewhat precipitate —at all events uncalled for, 13lit there is a war of in trigue, as well as of open invasion. Russian influence, it was feared, fought with the arms of Persia, and wounded us through the side of our neighbours. We preferred m eeting rather than waiting t o rece i ve a tt ac k. The result, too, justified the wisdom of this energy. Our foreign policy has branched out into many most momentous questions. It is not my intention to follow them, but I cannot how ever forbear noticing, in passing, the settling of the Bel gian question. To many the result may have appeared not worth the labour. Not so, however, to any true friend of freedom or social progress in Europe. Bel gium forms the pivot upon which the liberal cause must rest in the North ; it unites France and Englaad with the constitutional Germanic State!. It is the frontier of limited Monarchies, and so far from allowing ingress of despotic principles, it will gradually diffuse, by ex ample, a moderate liberalism through the contiguous nations. Already there is advance in Prussia, contem plated changes in her jurisprudence and administration, show that the tide flows from South to North. And if these European advantages were nothing, could we easily pass by the internal social improvement of that country ?—(Hear, hear.) Any traveller who compares her present with her past position, the free exercise of her industry, intelligence, political opinions, at this hour, with that forced Mezentian union which joined without incorporating her with Holland, decreed by a Congress, and carried into effect by the logic of the sword, will find some data for measuring as he should, the services rendered in these important negotiations by the Foreign Secretary, to the interests of freedom and civilization. If the rumours prevalent these days past relative to Spain be equally correct, a not less remark able triumph has been achieved in that country for the same righteous ends. A civil war is at all times the greatest of social disasters, sundering class from class—em battling age against age—desolating the domestic hearth— trampling on the altar—demoralising in mass the entire community, and leaving even victory no triumphs—no trophies. But this was a war more than civil ; a war of more than mere physical destruction. It was a man to man encounter for principles. It was whether absolute or constitutional government should be the future mode of existence, not of Spain only, but of the Peninsula. Portugal must have followed where Spain led. That war, if report speaks true, has been fought out to the last—the hour of triumph has come, the Christino's cause is in the ascendant, the policy of Lord Palmerston has received its reward. The dis turbance of our Eastern relations, I trust, will be but temporary. Danger is conquered where seen, and the conviction that this is not a contest for a frontier, nor the question of a mere internal insurrection, but a question European in its broadest sense, has already aroused the vigilance, and will combine the sympathies of the Five Great Powers, in council at pre sent, and if necessary in action for general and per manent defence.—(Hear.) The Austrian Treaty of Commerce is another of the merits of the Noble Lord which it may not be inappropriate to advert to. It has had the rare fortune of receiving and deserving the praises of all parties, as well as of all classes, leading to still greater benefits in a political than even in a mer cantile sense. But I have already detained you too long on these foreign questions. I pass to more inter esting topics, to measures which have reference to our domestic improvement. First in point of public inter est I believe I may rank the Ballot—(Hear, hear, and cheers). You are already well aware I have voted for it more than once—(Hear, and loud cheers). I shall vote for it again, and in so doing- I act in accordance with your opinions. It is an open question with the Government. Much objection has been testified to the theory of open questions. I doubt with any show of reason. No Government can be found with, I will not say, such complete identity of opinion, but with such foreknowledge and sympathy on all questions which may hereafter arise, as to preclude either occasional recur rence to such a course or to dissolution. Whether such dissolutions when numerous, as on such prin ciples they necessarily must be, are advantageous to the character of public men, or, which is of still more moment, to the certainty and steadiness of Government, ana the general progress of the Com monwealth, is a point I shall not stop to examine further than by merely referring to the example of France, whose catalogue of Ministries has become still more proverbial than her series of Constitutions, and who, from this very frequency of change, has done much to injure the very principle upon which even the most de sirable changes are attempted.—( Hear, and cheers.) A question new and complicated requires long and fre quent discussion, before it can get into, before it can " interpenetrate" the public mind. In making it at once a 'Government measure, and suddenly extemporising legislation upon it, or vice versa, opposing it, before discussion has taken place, laws may, indeed, be car ried or rejected abruptly, but public sympathy or ac quiescence is not thereby gained. This is some com pensation for the delay which I admit is incidental to such a course. Nor is this theory :—all Govern ments, as well as this, have found it necessary to adopt this course in practice. We have the precedent of the Catholic question, amongst others, to guide us. The Ballot question is an open question, it is not the first, nor is it likely, whoever be our rulers, that it will be the last. With regard to the question itself, it admits of course of a great variety of opinions both as to application and details. I am not convinced that its operations is so necessary, or will be so efficient in this country as in England. Public opinion is a great counteracting force to individual intimidation. The interference of the landlord, or at least the dis position to such interference, may here be as strong as in England ; but there is arrayed against it the great of public opinion, not of sections, buta nation—(Hear bear). The people of this country are many mil lions—they are of the same race, faith, politics, thinking, and conduct, with few exceptions ; they have been habituated by the Catholic question to co-operation—the many, on great national questions, are as one. Against this force, no private war fare can long endure—(Hear, hear). The nation, as' well as the Duke of Newcastle, will do what they like with their own. But lam not an Irishman, only, though I may especially be an Irishman : I have to legislate in a British Parliament for all—(Hear, hear). In Eng land the Ballot is in my mind essential. The Chandos clause calls for it in the counties—in the towns, the recognised system of political persecution adopted by the aristocracy, is equally injurious. A tradesman, or a shop-keeper, may bear one of those persecutions, but that his whole life should be sacrifice on sacrifice —a series of resistances and atonements to his cus tomers, is too much to hope or even wish for.—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) The Ballot is- called un-English. I know of nothing more un-English than to give rights with one hand and to take them away with the other —(Great cheering)—nothing more un-English than to cheat with the forms of freedom—nothing more un- English than to preach conscience, and to use every effort for its violation.—(Loud cheers.) I do not ex pect all the results its supporters advance, as certain consequences of the measure, but I expect many—and the many I do expect, more than balance in my mind those evils which now exist. True, it has not struck at all the corruptions interwoven with the great constitu tions, but I see enough of good resulting in checking these corruptions in France, in Belgium, in America— ( Hear, hear) —not to anticipate similar consequences here.—(Hear, hear.) It was the Ballot which smote a Ministry in France, which had long resisted popular opinion ; it is the Ballot which goes far to prevent - such Ministries in America. The Tory himself, publicly opposed, is privately a friend to the Ballot. As a Member of the Senate, he is its foe, but as a member of a Club, Charity, public Institution of any colour, he is the first to adopt it in self defence. Another question of not less importance—to us per haps of greater—is Municipal Reform. I have voted again and again in its favour. I advocated it, not in reference to existing Corporations, not in reference to what they were once intended for, or to what they have since been perverted—but on the broad general grounds—that local interest should be administered through local representation, as general, through ge neral—that if no Corporations had yet existed in these countries, for such objects, should they be in- 1 stituted, and that where they do not exist yet there still a free Constitution continues incomplete. Nor have free countries only found the utility of this organization. In no country in Europe, with any pretensions to civilization, is such a system wanting. It is found in Catholic and in Protes tant, in absolute and in constitutional, in Northern and Southern States. Even Austrian Lombardy —even Papal Rome—even despotic Denmark, have their as semblies, and councils, and municipalities, all repre sentative, all with the largest powers, all exercising those powers, unshackled and uncontrolled. This country only, out of all—because it is Ireland— is the secondary Ireland— because o e obo i e t d oi deprived ey C ra a i f h de o(tihl the tf the(H e chiefa h e a stater ) — o b f e hear)—because a h t r e se it is h at e empire, of local good! ) selection of a Membereouot this first of all instruments of elector is to be deemed compe tent to the exercise he or to the be considered as the great duty of choice in the of Parliament for the general l i o n g te ic res is t what perverse inverted selection of a M em b er of a Commonas incompetent for the Council ? The apprehension seeks t osa t is fy itself raisingo f the the democratc ise influence much surer guarantee h a d b een already taken in t t h a e system of voting by Wards.—(Hear, hear.) A Liberal constituency voting in mass, and accustomed to choose by large majorities, Liberal Members, would un doubtedly with almost as thuch ease, though the fran chise were much higher, be enabled to return a whole Council of the same colour. But the case altogether alters when we come to Wards. A Tory Ward has the same number of representatites as a Liberal Ward. The Council thus depends, in the most Liberal town which can be imagined, on the proportion of Tory wards to Liberal, and not on the gross proportion of the Libe ral electors to Tory. This marked difference seems to have been kept out of view, not on one side only, but on both sides of the House. Nor is this all—the pow ers proposed to be granted to those bodies are still very limited. I was glad to find that a clause suggested and moved by me three years ago, transferring the fiscal powers of grand juries to municipal corporations, on the obvious principle that representation should accom pany taxation, but which then did not pass, has been engrafted on the late Bill. This was, in my mind, a great improvement, but it is not enough. We all feel the want of sufficient power for the widening of our streets. Commissioners there are, but though with large powers for valuing houses and planning improve menu, they have none adequate for the raising of assess ment to meet those charges. Either another body, or such powers conferred upon the corporation as may meet these wants, are essential. I should prefer the latter ; two or three representative bodies in the same town run some risk of clashing with each other, I was desirous of extending these powers still farther. If wide streets are of advantage to the health and enjoy ment of the inhabitants, not less, surely, are public walks and gardens. Every city, I might almost say every borough, on the Continent is provided with them ; so, also, are they liberally supplied with literary and scientific institutions, with museums, libraries, tec.— ( Hear, hear.) These ate not idle luxuries or su perfluous indulgences for the rich, but are mote or less conducive to the well-being, mental or moral (without which let no man long hope for physical), of the poorest men in the community. These are matters not left in any of the continental towns to mere casual or temporary contributions, they arc not the creation or property of any individual, but they arise out of their common exertions and motley, and belong to the whole town. They are provided for by public assessment, levied through the Municipal Body. These powers I wished to introduce into the Municipal Bill, and not having succeeded, have embodied them in a distinct Bill, applicable to England as well as Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) But these and many other similar suggestions require, in order to give them effect, your co-operation. My exertions are feeble without yours—the voice with which an individual speaks, and that of a community, is very different. You should appoint a city improvement committee, composed of different sects end classes, se lected impartially from the different localities. Any memorial from such a body I shall feel it my duty to attend to. On every other occasion I have given evidence of my seal and anxiety to promote those local improvements. I succeeded in having this city opened to the East India trade—l have in every instance urged the bettering the communications between ours and the opposite coast ; I have endeavoured to have this port appointed as a station for emigration ; and I have not neglected any argument, both in and out of the House, to obtain the extension of the railway line, intended for the South, to Waterford.—(Hear, hear.) On the ground of commercial importance, amount of exports and imports, situation, and relation to England, I cannot consider our claims in anywise inferior to those of Limerick. I refer to those matters because, in more than one instance, I have been subjected to va rious mistakes on several of these heads in the public prints. The topics which still remain are few. None of you can be inattentive observers of the Chartist disturb ances in England. No man can be more anxious than I am to hear complaint and to meet grievance, not by the rude corrective of the sword, but by prompt and substantial redress. At the same time, for the sake of our institutions, of the offenders themselves, of free dom, as well as of order, I am not less the foe to all appeals to physical force. This is not an age in which enlightenment can proceed from the glare of the mid night torch, or a free constitution can be founded or maintained by the law of the bludgeon. If force be good for one so is it equally for another. The pike may go far to legitimatize the musket.—(Hear.) Thank God, our country has stood aloof from this infatuation. We sent out soldiers instead of calling for them. Our vic tories were of a different kind. With the sword of the " word" we prevailed. We left behind on our march to emancipation no burnings of cities, no wailings of woman or children. We preached not liberty by tyranny, nor regard for property by its destruction. The Government has acted in this matter, as became the Government of England. They left the movement to its own consequences, they appealed to the sober sense and orderly habits of her population, well assured that in good season the appeal would be, as it has been, answered. At the same time I awn far from saying that there are not many points in our pre sent institutions which require correction. The fran chise assuredly is one. I anxiously look to the means of its useful extension. Competency to exercise the duty which devolves on the electors, is the true quali fication. In the present state of our social system, this is not easy to be ascertained. We take a substitute for a more direct measure, that is, the qualification of property. Property is considered a test, in the absence of any other, of intellectual moral capacity. But I should try to give that intellectual and moral capacity itself. In the sense, therefore, of furthering freedom as well as all other social improvement, am I an ardent, and I trust, not an unsuccessful advocate of education. It is in vain to talk of states and constitutions unless we have men, or of men, unless we have minds. Those minds, if we cannot create, we can form—from the forming of individual minds comes the forming of the national. If it be the schoolmaster who makes the school, it is the school which makes the na tion. This opinion, a few years ago net only considered heterodox, but seldom considered at all, is now universally recognised. In 1831 I could scarcely find a seconder to my Bill for Irish Education.—(Cheers.) I have lived to see that Bill in full and flourishing ope ration. The various motions which followed for the establishing of a national system in England, till last year met with scarcely any sympathy. Last year, for the first time, I perceived dawnings of hope. The ad dress I then moved, for an Education Board and Schools for Teachers, was rejected by a majority only of two. This year it became a Government question—it is now in operation. The debates on that great question were, indeed, instructive. Party never appeared more undis guised. I thought I had most clearly explained myself on the religious branch of the question. I know the value—the necessity—of moral and religious above all other instruction.—(Hear, hear.) I regard mere informa tion as a means, not an end.—(Hear, and loud cheers.) I call not for knowledge, but wisdom—not for doctrine, but deeds—good precept, but better conduct—en lightened, but, above all, better men.—(Tremendous cheering.) I never proposed to exclude, what in my mind was the principal object, but more effectually to coin. bine. I wished that the religious teaching of each per. suasion should be left to their respective pastors, bu that in addition to this, not in exclusion of this, such course of intellectual and industrious teaching should be g iven as might really merit the name of education, and be worthy of the support and guidance of the State.—(Hear, and cheers.) To this, strange to say, I found the very same statesman, to whose co-operation the establishment of the system was owing in Ireland, directly opposed. He objected to the plan—he ob jected to the mode of executing the plan, and yet he had furnished the precedent for both. He feared the ad mission of Catholics into schools frequented by Protes tants—and yet insisted on these joint schools in Ireland —if' there were danger to Protestant consciences where Protestants were many and the Catholics few, how much more danger in schools, where Catholics were many and Protestants few. Protestant conscience is surely not more precious or more flexible in England than it is in Ireland. If it were a disregard of the fair claims to joint legislation, on the part of the other branch of the Legislature, to introduce the measures in the manner in which it appeared before the Commons, I know not how we can acquit the Noble Lord of a similar contempt of the rights of the Peerage, where we find that not only did he adopt such course, but adopted it in his letter to the Duke of Leinster, without any discussion such as recently took place—adopted it when discus sion was impossible when the House was no longer sitting. The Noble Lord required no confutation from the advocate! of the measure, it was sufficient to oppose to Lord Stanley Mr. Stanley—to appeal from his present to his former self. The measures of the Government are in operation, and though small the means at their disposal, and many the obstacles they have to contend against, great principles have been established, and by being honestly applied, the result will not much longer be questioned. Education, in one way or other, must henceforth advance ; it may be trusted to the every-day extending experience of the country—to the influence of the example of other na tions—to the self respect of a great people to a pro tecting Providence above. A few good—really good schools—judicious reports, temperate conduct, and 'assistance cordial, hut also enlightened, and no vexatiouc, or unnecessary interference—these are arguments which, sooner or later, will have their sway. Nor is the cause without allies in other recent measures. All communication of mind with mind, must advance education. Prejudice, divi sion, are only other names for ignorance, and ignor ance is the natural child of seclusion and separation. A village may be a century behind the capital ; it may be living in a bygone age, in habits, manners, opinioni, whilst the capital is living solely in the present. No wonder that between these two there can be little sympathy, not more than between two different na tions. To bring them into one, to soften by approxi mating, to render more tolerant, by rendering more ex perienced, is the object of communication, whether by road or letter. Who, then, a friend to national e nlighten. ment and national concord, but will hail with enthusiasm the extension of the railway system, whi c h i s gr adually forming England into one great city. The adoption of the New Postage Bill will give to writing all the facili ties of personal converse. Nor is this all, the extension of both to the whole Continent is almost inevitable. No THE SUN, L ' PTEMBER 10, 1839. , ND(W, 1 tf.PSDiv nation can adopt any new improvement sat go dontife-- hensive a kind without imposing on other nations t&N; inevitable obligation of following its example. The railroad system has already made great advances in Belgium, France, and Gentian*. M. Piron tells us that it will be gradually followed hy a Penny postage: Who doubts of the consequences of such a change ? Who questions the all effi ciency of such instruments ? Talk, indeed, of per petuating ignorance, of consolidating bigotry, of pre venting progress. These are the cadges that protest against it. We connot retrograde. It is a grand moral impossibility , To attempt to roll the centuries back, or the habits, thoughts, opinions of the present day, to the habits and opinions of the past, would be just as rational as to attempt to bridle in its majestic course, the noble river which flows beside your doors, and to send it to the mountain source from which, through many a winding, it slowly and painfully struggled into day. We cannot retrograde. Every institution we hare conquered, every aspiring we feel, every recollection of the past, every aspect of the future, is pledge of progress, is guarantee that we must go on.—(Hear, hear.) The only question now is, by what means, and to what and? Intellectual improve ment, assured freedom, augmented wealth, arts, and commerce, and constitutions are not enough--all these must not only rest on, but must grow out of improved moral life—to this all rulers, all nations, if they would hate not the false tinsel of a transitory prosperity, but solid national happiness and true national glory, must bend their heads and hearts, their hands and minds. To that as the great end I look, equally I trust, with you. I regard office only as a larger opportunity of bearing my part in accom plishing this good. I do not consider these questions as levers only to raise one man into place, or to throw another man out—worthless, indeed, would they be if theif valve stopped there,—(Hear, hear.) It is a portion of the regeneration of our country that they are really good. As such, I rejoide to have had my share in their achievement. Whether in place or out of place, on such questions my opinion and conduct must continue unchanged.--(Hear, and cheers.) The opinions I ex pressed from those hustings when first you chose me as your representative, are my opinions now. I trust that when next we meet, I shall have to present you with proofs that my new situation has tended, not to alter but confirm them. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman sat down amid loud and long-continued cheering. Mr. CURTIS said that After the speech which they had just heard from Mr. Wyse—a speech which touched upon every matter, it was enough to deter _any Done from getting on his legs; but he w ould say to the of Wellington and the Bench of Bishop!, and all the Lords together, fellow me that speech if you can.-- . —• (Oreat laughter.) lie was glad to see them all in such good huniour.—(More laughter.) They were now going to send forivatd Mr. W .as representative of Waterford, ifthere wag a a n n d o t p h p e o r es op ay position, great would d be, Mr. Wyse would be returned in . spite of it ;_ and the on p la ti t o t s c i r t . to h n ew to his election ; the reason is, because he did net think they could get so good a representative,—(Cheers.) The next reason was, that Mr. Wyse had a right to be the legitimate representative of Waterford —he is the descendant of a family who bore the brunt of persecution—therefore he ought to be the representative of Waterford, and so he always will unless it be his own fault.—.(Loud cheers, and a voice, " Until he dies.") He knew there were factions in Waterford ; he knew that Mri; Wyse was complained of because he carried himself too high but Mr. Wyse carried himself the same to all men— be showed favour to no one in particular, and Mr. Wyse was aware that he (Mr. Curtis) only spokeof him as he thought. After some further observations in which he lauded Lord Melbourne as a bold and talented statesman, Mr. Curtis sat down amid cheers. There being loud cries for Mr. Green, of Kilmana ban, this Hon. Gentleman came in front of the hust ings, and said that though he was not an elector of the city of Waterford, he could not withhold from using the opportunity afforded him of offering his congratulations on the unanimous return of Mr. Wyse, as their repre sentative that day.—(Cheers.) As an enlightened po litician, that Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Wyse) would be a credit to any constituency in the empire, but in this his native city it reflected double credit on the citizens to select such a man to represent their wants and wishes in Parliament--(Cheers.) The appointment of Mr. Wyse to an honourable and important station in the Ministry, would be felt not only by the inhabitants of Waterford, but also by the friends of liberty in every part of the kingdom, as creditable not only to kimself but to the Government and the country at large. One so decided in his political opinions as he (Mr. Greene) could not be expected to praise the Ministry for all their proceedings—but he believed that they were snore guilty on the score of omissions than commissions— there was a great deal alleged as matters of excuse in their favour ; they had to deal with oligarchical obstructives baleful to the progress of freedom. The Han. Gentleman continued at some length and with his usual eloquence, and dwelt particularly on the im perative necessity of attention to the registries on the part of the people, and called upon every man who wished to sustain the present Liberal Ministry in power to conic forward, join the association founded by the great leader in Dublin, and give his aid towards a full and ef fective registration of voters in Ireland. We regret that contracted space precludes the insertion of more than a mere skeleton of Mr. Greene's excellent observations, which were received throughout with loud cheers. Mr. THONIAS CLARICE next addressed the meeting in an effective speech, in which he congratulated his fellow-citizens on the triumphant return of Mr. Wyse —spoke of Mr. Wlse's exertions on ever y question appertaining to the liberties of the people, and on that of education in particular, and was frequently cheered throughout.then asked had any o f his constituents `VISE i‘ir. questions to ask him with respect to his Parliamentary conduct? There was an universal response in the negative. Mr. WYSE then said that during his canvass he had been questioned on his absence on the Bank Monopoly question, and although there was no one present to ask him anything on the subject, he could not refrain from alluding to it. So far from being absent on that ques tion, as had been rashly stat e d, h e was p re sent on not less than five divisions one night whilst the Bill was is Committee, and voted throughout in the minorities, as the votes and proceedings of Parliament, which he held in his hand, would show. Mr. DELAHUNTY asked the Hon. Gentleman some questions with respect to his absence on motions in the commencement of the session, to which Mr. Wyse gave the most satisfactory answers. The Sheriff then, amidst the loudest cheering, declared Mr. Wyse duly elected to represent Waterford in Par liament, and said that he had great pleasure in bearing his own testimony to the fact. i The return was then made out and signed, and the • Court dissolved. - As Mr. Wyse passed through the streets with his t friends, he was greeted with the cheers of the people a 7IIIIWIPPIP BUNGAY ST. MARY. tniCll- R A TE S. It was but a Week ago, we announced that the Church-wardens of this Parish had been defeated by proof of illegality in their last rate, notwithstanding the wattling they had in the previous year. Without lowing time, they gave notice on Sunday last, of a Vestry Meeting to make another attempt at a good rate, which meeting was held yesterday, the 6th instant, the Rev. H. P. COOKESLET, in the Chair. Mr. MANN, the Churchwarden, read an estimate of expenses, for which he begged a rate of 2d. in the pound. A rate at that amount was then moved by Mr. WALKER, and seconded by the Rev. Mr. BEWICK. Mr. CHARLES CHILTM said he had a few words to offer before the motion was carried, and as usual to protest on the part of the Dissenters against the pro ceedings of the Church party. He wished, however, to premise an expression of the regret he L'it at seeing the Reverend Gentleman who filled the Chair present at such a meeting. He believed that Gentleman was sincerely anxious to be the instrument of good in the parish, and he was confident his usefhlness would be diminished, and his influence impaired, by implication or supposed implication in the proceedings of that day. He would not, for his present purpose, allege that those proceedings were illegal, it was enough that on their face they were unprecedented and vexatious— without claiming that right was exclusively on his side, the Vestry was a scene of animosity and a foundation of strife, with which it was to be lamented that the Chair man's name should, however remotely, be associated. The experience of several years had proved how inef fectual would be a simple protest against the Act for which they were assembled. At their last meeting he had gone further, and warned them that all they were doing was invalid and indefensible, and had covenanted with them that when they should be defeated they should abstain from calling hard names. He had, therefore, a right to complain—and he would take the occasion of Mr. Butcher's presence to say so—that that gentleman, sitting as a Justice of the Peace to decide on the rate which he had himself moved in Vestry, had felt himself at liberty to designate as a quibble the legal objection by which the rate was defeated. Mr. BUTCHER here rose, and, stating that he would not sit to hear such remarks, left the Vestry. As he was going, Mr. CHAS. CHILDS observed that what he had to say he would have stated in Mr. Butcher's presence, and he should, therefore, not be deterred by his voluntary ab sence. Several parishioners here exclaimed that such remarks were irrelevant to the business of the Vestry, and Mr. Childs replied that he was perfectly in order. He was showing, not that the rate was unjust— Mr. COOKESLEY—That is precisely the point of dif ference, Mr. Childs. Mr. C. Cutups—By no means, Sir. I pass by all ques tion as to the justice of the matter, and am urging only the inexpediency on your part of persisting in your present course. I am complaining that when, after due notice, the party of the Churchwardens are fairly defeated, they turn round and call ill-names. In doing tr) . lam perfectly in order, but I place myself in the ch a i rma ,fs hands, and shall gladly abide his decision. [Receiving ao ;ctimation from the Chairman, Mr. C. proceeded.] li e own , - 2: . ‘t refrain from expressing his co Lduct with reference to conviction that Mr. Blitcliet the last rate was indecent in the posts:n which he oc cupied. He was glad that Mr. B. had no now, as at the last meeting, moved the rate ; he WOlild ROW - c all to thelf teeollection the assurance he had given them at their last meeting, how contemptuously they had rejected his advice, and how signally it had been realized in their defeat. He had earned a right to their belief, and would be very happy if all further trouble could be saved by their now acting on his similar assurance and refraining from an attempt in which they would again be beaten. Mr. MANN--YOU would not be happy if you did not cause unhappiness. The CHAIRMAN interposed to check this remark, and Mr. C. Clumps claimed, as this offensive expression had been used, to say that Mr. Mann's conduct had been most ungentlemanly. When that Churchwarden applied for a summons against Mr. Thomas, he had had a con versation with him, in which Mr. Mann remarked that he (Mr. C.) had never treated him otherwise than as a gentleman. He had no other communication with him, direct or indirect, except by a most courteous note, to which Mr. Mann's reply was most uncivil and low-bred. He mentioned this, in order that although he would not himself be tempted out of propriety, Mr. Mann should not clamour about the discourtesy he received from other parishioners. He would now, not as an advocate of his own rights, for this he knew was useless, but as amicus curia, advise them not to take measures for another humiliating defeat. Mr. MANN—You come as any thing rather than amicus. Mr. C. CHILDS—I did not say of the Churchwar dens or their party, but curia, and I am sure your Chairman will not refuse me permission to repeat that you have already, on the authority of names which you would yourselves most highly estimate, placed your selves in a position of difficulty from which extrication is impossible. You paid dearly for neglecting my warning before—the penalty will be heavier this time. The rate was then passed, and after two hours spent in making an assessment, the Vestry was dissolved. DINNER TO MR. WYSE.—It appears to be the general feeling amongst the constituents of the Hon ourable Member for Waterford, that, his re-election under such cheering auspices to Ireland should be commemorated by the Citizens. A public dinner has been suggested, and the suggestion has our decided approval. It will brin together the independent spirit of the C it y and verif y the saying of the Roman Poet— " Huse res et jungit, junctos et servat amicos." The whole Liberal constituency will be present, and form a band of union which Toryism never can dissever or dis turb.— Waterford Chronicle. A very smart shock of an earthquake was felt in this city and nei g hbourhood about one o'clock on Monday morning. The sensation was more particularly observed about Kingsdown, and we have been told of several parties who felt their beds rock under them, and doors were thrown open, crockery displaced, and unusual noises heard. The shock was also felt on the other side of the water, in Newport, Cardiff, and other places in South Wales. Bristol Gazette. When, at the termination of the Mahratta war, Mohiput Ram, at a secret conference, offered the Duke of Wellington ten lacs of rupees (70,0001.) for some infor mation respecting the particular districts which were to be ceded by treaty to his master, the Nizam, " Can you keep a secret ?" asked the Duke, with affected earneEt ness. " I ean," said Mohiput Ram, fully and eagerly ex pecting the desired disclosure. "So can 1," was the an swer. And yet his early difficulties had taught him keenly the value of money, and he looked with sufficiently long ing eyes at the great prizes of worldly ambition ; but even the richest of them was not, for a moment, to be thought of, when the consideration of it involved any violation of the principles of truth or honour.—Alison. Mr. Wm. Anseltn Townsend was last week re moved from Monmouth gaol to the Milbank Penitenti in London, in accordance with the directions of the Home Secretary. All the preparations for the Worcester Musica Festival, which takes place on Tuesday next, have been completed in a style of unusual magnificence. The prices of admission have been lowered to three-fourths of the usual charge, whilst the attraction of more than usual talent is offered to the public. Under these circumstances it is sincerely hoped that the present meeting may not, like the last, leave the Committee losers. Last festival the deficiency exceeded 1,000/. TVorcester Journal. EXTRAORDINARY DRAUGHT OF FISH. GRANGE, FETHARD, 27111 AUGUST, 1839. —I hasten to inform you of the sight I saw this morning on the strand of Fethard. There has not been seen in the memory of tke oldest fisherman here, such a take of fish as was hauled in this morning by a net drawn by men from the shore, all pilchards; indeed Ido not at all exaggerate when I say there were about 200,000, if they could be counted. People are congregating here from all quarters to see the wonder; the person to whom the net belongs is selling them to jolters at 63. for every 500. I was speaking to a fisherman between 80 and 90 years of age, and in his re collection here he has seen nothing like it; be recollects one great take of cod, but nothing like the present.—Cork Paper. A singular accident happened in Gainsborough on Friday last. A man who lives in Providence-place, named Richard Gabitas, was seized with a kind of religi ous delirium, and sent for a neighbour, who was a Primitive Methodist, to read the Bible to him ; it appears that the man read some portion of the scriptures that speaks of the power of the devil, which so excited the poor fellow that he jumped thro ug h the chamber window into the y ard, under theimpression that a visit to his room by his satanic ma jesty was about to take place. He was taken up cut dreadfully, and an application was made to the master of the workhouse to have him admitted into that place, when accordingly Mr. Johnson sent an able-bodied pauper to take care of him until arrangements could be made for his reception in the house. After stopping with Gabitas a short time, the pauper was observed to drop from his C hair apparently lifeless; but, after considerable efforts made by the doctors who were sent for, he was sufficiently restored to be removed back to the union house, where he expired the following day. A report was prevalent in the town that the deceased had died from fright; but, on ex amination, it was discovered that he had been attacked with a fit of apoplexy.---.Linco/n Mercury. THE ONION BUSINESS.—Bermuda is rivalling Connecticut. She has shipped this spring to the West Indies half a million pounds of onions and 200 barrels of potatoes. In Bermuda half a bottle of seed produced B,ooollys, onions-160 of which weighed 280 pounds ! NORTH STAFFORDSHIRE COLLIERY.—A company has been famed for bringing coals from North Staffordshire to London. They have purchased the Del horne Colliery, near Cheadle, and have entered into en gagements with the several canal proprietors, by which they will be their own carriers, arstl-bring the coals to London at a considerable reduction of price. The certificates they publish from vari ous es t a blishments and individuals . who have tried their coals are very favour able to the quality, and if they can supply the market a t 225. 6d. per top, they will be able to dispose of as many as they cau bring. We wish the undertaking success, supposing it to be based on honest intentions, of which the names of the directors are a guarantee, and shall rejoice to see it contributing to break up the monopoly enjoyed by the London coal factors, and the northern coal owners. QUICKEST VOYAGE. The splendid new steamer, Royal George, Captain Cook, left Liverpool on Monday evening last, twenty minutes before five o'clock, and arrived in Liverpool on Wednesday afternoon at two o'clock, making the voyage in 45 hours and 20 minutes : deduct for stoppage at Greenock and Renfrew 45 minutes, loading and discharging cargoes at Glasgow six hours, keying 38 hours and 35 minutes for performing the voyage from Liverpool to Bromielaw, Glasgow, and back to Liverpool.—Liverpool Chronicle. On Saturday last an inquest was held at the Union-hall, in the village of Llanstephan, Glamorganshire, before George Thomas, Esq., on view of the body of a person unknown, but supposed to be the captain of the ship Pickering Dodge, of Boston, United States, wrecked. A jury having been sworn, the Coroner said they had a painful and disgusting duty to perform, as he understood from his son that rho body was in a state of dreadful disfi gurement and decomposition, so as to prevent his person being identified, except by his clothes, and being also informed that the Captain of the above ship had very considerable property on his person when the melancholy catastrophe occurred, it was their duty as well as his to make a minute search of his person. They then adjourned to the church-yard, where the remains lay in a shell, and after half an hour's search in the presence of the parish officers and a large concourse of people, they returned to the jury-room, where evidence was taken. Verdict— " Found drowned on the shore of the river Tave."— Wekhman. THE WEATHER.—In and about London the weather for the last few days has been rather fine, but it appears that in most parts of the country, particularly the North, where the greatest quantity of Wheat remains un. housed, the weather has been most unfavourable for har vest operations. That the produce of the kingdom will fall short of an average crop, there now unhappily is but little doubt, and we fear that while the poor man's loaf will be further pinched, we shall witness a still greater and more disastrous derangement of our monetary and commercial system than that under which all classes are now suffering —suffering, be it borne in mind, mainly from the operation of the Corn-laws. . THE CHARTISTS.—We understand that it is the intention of the Chartists of this town to hold a large meeting early in the ensuing week. Mr. Feargus O'Con nor and John Frost, Esq., it is expected, will arrive here from London on Monday, to address that meeting.—Chel tenham Free Press. OMNIBUS ACCIDENT.—On Saturday afternoon as one of Child's Chelsea omnibuses was on its way to the Bank, opposite Goding's brewery, Knightsbridge, it came in collision with a dust cart which turned s harply out of a street, when, before the coachman could pull up, one of the shafts of the cart entered the chest of the nearside omnibus horse, which was thereby instantly killed. It was valued at 251. We had the good fortune one evening this week to fall into a company, where a gentleman was relating his adventures in North America. He asserted many curious things as facts, and amongst the rest of his wonderful assertions, he assured the company that birds never sang ' in America, and that none of its flowers had any scent. If such be the case we cannot help pitying our translantic 1 brethren.—Preeton Observer. .F....nr- _ THE THAMES TUNNEL. This work now approaches cotZ`Dletion, and people naturally ask what is to be its future destiny. That it will pay BO one ever conceives, and that it is of any great utility is equally problematical. To climb down one pair of stairs and up another, and to promenade in a catacomb is little inviting as a matter of pleasure, and rather too tedious for business, so that it will pro bably remain what it has hitherto been, more a kind of show, than productive of public advantage. It. may, however, be well worth the consideration of its mac a gers, whether by the use of a stationary engine, it could be made a relatively convenient mode of passage, so that by a low rate of toll carriages might be induced to pass over. If, too, foot passengers could also lot; con veyed acros in a car for a little higher toll than they could proceed alone, it would perhaps become a favourite source of amusement. One *f the most interesting propositions hitherto made respecting this great work, emanates from a dis tinguished foreign nobleman, the Count Hawks Le Orice, a member of several of the academies abroad, and eminent at Rome for his taste and his cultivation of the a1.:44 He proposes that the tunnel should form a repository for busts of illustrious men, and that the entrances on the Middlesex sad Surrey shores should be effected by two triumphial ar - ;_thes, one recording the achievements of the navy, and the other the heroic deeds of the army. That the pi;_ may be enabled to judge of the feasibility of this arrange ment, and of the effect which it is calculated to produce, the Count has kindly offered to ht it up temporarily with a number of busts for this purpose, so that soon an opportunity may be af forded for bringing it into full operation. After alluding to the interesting feature of this project as a national work, the Count observes, that " it we consider the grandiose style of the architecture, the massive and broad effect of the whole, and the form of the semi-elliptical arch which allows the eye to embrace the whole stupendous structure without being distracted by any details, we must say that it all goes to prove that the viaduct of the tunnel is singularly adapted for the exhibition of sculpture. To those who have had the high intel lectual treat of seeing those chefs d'oeuvre of art, the Apollo, the Laocoon, the Olympian Jupiter, the Minerva Medici, and the Ariadne in the Vatican by torchlight, will at once acknowledge that the circumstance of the Tunnel being lighted with gas would greatly contribute to the effect of sculptural art. It is moreover known that artificial light is superior to daylight, as the con trast of light and shade is greater, and the effect of chi ar'oscuro enhances the value and the beauty." The Count recommends that the busts should be semi-colos• sal, executed with more than usual spirit and boldness, the hair should be well massed, and in their execution should be that simple majesty of form, that solemn quietude and sedate expression, that dignity of gesture treed from ostentation, which is the distinguishing cha racter of Greek art.—Civil Engineer. STEAM APPLIED TO SAILING V ESSELS. On Saturday the Vernon left Blackwall to begin her voyage to India. The vessel is built upon an entire new construction, totally different from any other mer chantman. This was requisite to the successful appli cation of a small steam power to so large a ship for so long a voyage, as the space required to be allotted to the machinary and tonnage of coals had hitherto been considered an insurmountable drawback. One hundred -nd fifty tons now provide for the whole. The Ver - ; • 170 feet long, 36 feet beam, and b u t 22 fee nen deep, &awn; but 15 feet 6 inches o f water ; o and has on b o ard a cargo 1,000 tons mee,autZluenl , fitted of 1,000 tons. Sno ;.tted with a steam en gine of thirty horse power, The engine is upon the low pressure principle, at;;. l calculated to make in calm weather 30 revolutions a minute , the boilers then consuming two hundred and a half weight of coals per hour. The paddles are sm;:. 11 , and occupy a width of only four,feet outside of the ship, fixed upon a shaft projecting about two feet six inches through, and so supported as to require neither pad dle-beams, spring -beams, nor paddle-boxes ; and they can be shipped and unshipped in an hour by the yard tackles of the ship. The engine is so simple in its con struction that it requires but one engineer and one stoker. Besides these great and valuable improvements in large ships, the propelling apparatus, when at work, produces 30 gallons of good fresh water a day, and which quantity may, by an augmentation in the expen diture of three bushels of coal in about 24 hours, be in creased to 100 gallons a day. The water is sufficiently good for the stock, as also for all culinary purposes ; one of the most important and valuable considera tions in long voyages. The day was most fortunate for the putting to the test the importance or value of the small steam power with which the Vernon was supplied. She left Black wall at half-past twelve, an hour and a half before high water, against a strong flood tide, with jib and driver set in the wind's eye, blowing very hard front the south south-west, the engines propelling her at the rate of three knots and :half the hour, the engines p!,-form ing eighteen revolutions in a minute. Upon turning the point entering Woolwich Reach she went five and a half knots an hour, the wind blowing very fresh on ber beam, the engines performing twenty-five revolutions. She gradually increased her speed up to seven knots, the engines making twenty-eight revolutions, which was her greatest speed. Upon turning into two or three reaches where she brought the wind right a-bead, the power of the en g ine alone propelled her at the rate of four knots through the water, notwithstanding the immense power which the wind had upon the masts and yards of the ship to impede its progress. The great trial of strength of the engines took place at North Fleet Hope, when it blew so hard that it was feared the anchor must be let go. However, she cleared it in beautiful and gallant style. During the trip it was very remarkable that when the canvass was set close hauled, the power the lee-wheel had in bringing the ship up to windward was so great that she stood four points to the wind's eye, so that she made a board down three different reaches, when all others were obliged to tack. At twenty minutes past three she passed the church at Gravesend, thus accom plishing the distance in ten minutes less than three hours, leaving the Thomas Grenville, which left Black wall at the same time, towed by a steam tug, nearly out of sight, and which took anchorage off Gravesend about twenty minutes afterwards. This successful experimental ship is likely to lead to the most important results. The voyages to and from India, which are so tediously long, are rendered so from calms, currents, and adverse winds, in one latitude ; whereas, if the vessel was provided with the means of propelling herself, even at ever so slow a rate, sometimes for only a mile or two, she might avoid a current or a calm, and when she lost one trade wind, make her way into another. This great desideratum in navigation has at length been most successfully ac complished by the builders of the Vernon. In reduc ing a voyage at least 25 days, the saving to the owners must be great, and to the passengers and merchants [ncalculable. Captain Jaudet, who has just published a book on Asia Minor, is about to be sent as French commissary to O'Donnell's army in Aragon. M. lc Gondie is going to Catalonia on a similar mission. Major Saragoza has already joined the army of Espartero. SHOCKING ACCIDENT.—On Thursday morn ing an accident occurred in Newtown of a shocking nature. A woman caused the death of her own child through mis take. The deceased, James Crook, son of Francis Crook, was playing about the house, and was unfortu nately led to creep under the mangle, which was then at work, under the management of his mother. She was not aware that her child was in any danger, (in fact had not noticed him creeping under the mangle,) until some obstruction was offered to the progress of the machine, when, on examination, she found to her astonishment that her child's head had got fastened between the mangle, which was of considerable weight, and the table upon which it moves. He was extricated as soon as possible, and surgical assistance procured, but it was unavailing, as the injuries were mortal, and he died in about a quarter of an hour afterwards.—Bolton Chronicle. On Saturday morning Mr. Ralph, a collecting clerk to Messrs. Finch and Walters, tea brokers, had his pocket picked of his pocket hook, containing Bank of Eng land notes and checks to the amount of 6001., during the time he was looking in at the shop window of a picture shop in the Strand. Yesterday Clark, one of the groms of Colonel Sibthorp, M. P., was kic ked b y a horse o the colonel had lately bought at Horncastle fair. The blow was given in the poor fellow's side, and he lingered until three this morning, when he died. —Lincoln Gazette. A M AN SHOT. --Yesterday forenoon, about twelve o'clock, one of the crew belonging to the Vivid steam ship (of Hull) expired in St. Thomas's Hospital, from a shot-wound w hich he received last week on b oar d of the Vivid. It was accidental. CAUTION TO GAOLERS AND TURNKEYS.— Mr. Justice Patteson has directed the removal of the gaoler at Ludlow, and a turnkey at Newport, for question.. ing prisoners with " the view to the obtaining" of evidence for their co nviction. —Bristol Mirror. STABLING. —On Thursday night, a man of the name of Dempsey, while passing along Great Patrick street, Belfast, to his own house, was attacked by a drunken ruffian, in sailor's garb, who drew a knife, and inflicted one or two stabs on his breast and shoulder. In endeavouring to wrest the weapon from him, Dempsey got his hands severely cut, and lost so much blood, that lock jaw has ensued, and his life is in imminent danger. The assassin is in custody.—Northern Whig. MORE STABBING.—At Marylebone Office, on Saturday, a youth named John Parker, the son of a sur geon, residing in Pilo:mix-street, Somers-town, was charged with stabbing another lad, named John Pomeroy. It appeared that on Friday afternoon the prisoner and Pomeroy quarrelled upon the division of some fish they had taken by angling at the Regent's Canal ; blows were struck, and Parker at length rushed upon Pomeroy, and with a clasp-knife stabbed him in the thigh. The wound, however, not being of a serious nature, and the prisoner declaring that, at the moment, he was not aware of having the knife in his hand, the Magistrate allowed the parties to arrange the affair out of Court. EvEI \ \TING ED IT,T ON. sTA TE OF JAYIA/..(3A. , 1 from a Gentleman in Jamaica to Extract of a Lett. a v ast ugust Joseph Sturge, dated A , 839 " The Custom-house re,.‘urns up to the Ist orSep'" tember will, I have every assurance, furnish the most satisfactory proof of the results o.f the labour of the first year of freedom. I say up to tbsl Ist of September this year (though it was usual to have the accounts up to the 31st July, formerly), in consequence of crop having commenced three weeks later than ordinarily. By the tale, which is the mode of computation still per sisted in by the planters, the apparent result will be de it;sive, as the size of the hogsheads have been much enlarged, so as to hold b orn 20 to 23 hundred weight each, a practice now very ga nerally adopted. The custom of slavery was to make the h,,gshead capable of contain ing 15 to I 7cwt., which receive d the confirmation of law. An island sta:ute, declaring that in all cases of disput e 15 cwt. should be considered the legal weight of a hogs head of sugar. The.' discrepancy between the present and the former weight Of a hogshead of sugar accounts in some degree for the gi .eat difference in' the returns of many estates, when reference is made onl,v to the num ber of hogsheads and not the weight. The delusiveness of such an estimate is shown \very satisfactet 'HY tables published in the Enzanffipator , whieb exhibit the crops of 1838 as a highly productive one , wh il e' the contrary was attempted to be shown by an appeal to numbers only. lam surprised at the great extent O. in the ignorance which pervades the public mind at home with respect to the present social and political condition of this country ; at least, much ignorance is exhibited in the debates in the House of Commons on the Samaica Bill, even by wen who have studied t h e subject so attentively as Dr. Lushington. He and the majority of other debaters have iosisted on the necessity of Parliamentary interference , from the urgent importance of speedily enacting a Ire' g rant Law, a Polite Law, and one to prevent squatting on lands in the interior. The fact is, there is scarcely an individual in the island who could be brought within the meaning of the legal term vagrant ; there is more labour than workmen, and, as you w ell know, subsistence may be so easily obtained, that inde pendent of a man capable of working supporting himself, the agricultural labourers aboolutely support their sick and disableJ ;so that in the ai;sence of Poor-laws, the incumbrance o„r the rural parishes have scarcely been increased by the hange of system in the towns. T here have been additional appeals to the public for supp ort, but these have been ma=le by the incvrably diseased and disabled, and not to so g rot an exteul as might have been expected, and was antic;pated. A.ll able men are employed in some way or other, and the' :majority verY pssfitably ; so that a Vagrant Law is nos of pre sent nec essity. We have been now nine months without a police, and I think I may venture to say no it: dividual in the community has experienced the slightest incon: venience or insecurity in consequence. The more power of the law, combined with the peaceable diskl°soli tion of the people, is quite sufficient for the security all, and to give proper influence to the decisions of the magistracy, and to the enforcement of their adjudica tions through the ordinary constables. With regard to squatting, which is gravely a rgued as being an evil that must at all events be guarded against—by what law or what force could it be pre- i vented in a country so inaccessible in many parts to any but a negro's foot, or practised bush-rangers, if the peasantry were so disposed ? It is well known to all acquainted with the country that there is no pre vention, save in the advancing civilisation of the peop le. The apprehension is a bugear. The habits of the people are too social to admit of their being to the wilderness of woods, and they are too much ea" dieted (notwithstanding the fashion of speaking of theta as a race of semi-barbarians) to creature comforts, t° desert the haunts of busy men. Ido not believe that in any part of the island has a negro taken himself i° the bush since the termination of the apprenticesh i p' on the contrary, I know of many who for years r': sided there during the old system, who have returnee to society and labour. The Insolvent Debtor Act' a zd some others that have expired, require to be re novate'd ; but in other respects we have quite law. enough ; i.lws applicable to all purposes. What .vie_ most require the vigorous and pure administrtir; of justice by legal ,Judges and an impartial a nd iec l a, pendent Magistracy, and of that I hear not a WI nor in the reported speeches on the Jamaica questie:i can I discern a single allusion to such a necessity. ri'it Mr. Burge is to be credited, the present stipeedia,", magistracy are to be done away with ; he has had secu_ a „ promise from the Colonial Secretary, and I hav!,,r u be son to believe that in a packet or two there of such important changes made for the purpossl °, t is ciliating the Jamaica Association of Planters, ill be the consequent disorganization of society, they w• ultimately the greatest victims.* THE MARKETS.---(YESTERDAY') PRICE OF The highest price of Bread in th, oat. Good Bread may be had at 8! , BREAD. le Metropolis is 10d. for the 41i %d, PRICES 0 Per Cwt. Per Quarter. , ..... New English Red Clover...sos. 84s St. Foin - - s• --- 440 Old Ditto Ditto -s. -a. -s Rye Grass ....s. 4 0 `i , New Foreign Ditto ...-s. 60s. 635. Tracey Grass -..5. s ' 4 2.. es. -- ' Old Ditto Ditto -s. -s. -s. Linseed, for feeding - -s ' 5 46, 50 , New White Clover 4ss. 555. 655. Ditto, for sewing ....• - 4 ' 425. es , A ild Ditto Ditto -s. -s. -s. Ditto, for crushing...--- ~.0, SOs. Ner. - Trefoil -s. 18s. 3 0 s. Canary .......s. / • g a s 40s. Old 1/1:to a. 12s. 22a. Hemp .....s. ~.. Trefolitin: -a. -s. -s. Per BusheL , 4 ,. 0,1. English Car: away -s. 545. 535. White Mustard...lls, Od. ‘ , . , ,, 5. N I, Foreign Ditto., Coriander _ .-s 2 5(4 . 5 . . 2 5Ls. T B a ro r w es n Ditto ...... 115 8:6d 0d . • z io l ...,, gil i. • 1 0 3 • 3 `' Rapeseed, Engliah fine (per Last) 30/. 331. Foreign PRICES OF HOPS. 01. Os. F arn h a m Pockets (per cwt.),..... 01 Os. 0 / , Os. to ~ East Kent Pockets. 4l 10s. Si. 15s. to 61. 7.: Ditto Bags ~,,,,' Mid Kent Pockets 3 l. 10s. 4/.los. to 5 / JIM' Ditto Bags 3l. 10s. 01. Os to 4:. u'' Sussex Yearlings Ol. Os. at 38. to Si. it' Old Olds Old Duty estimated at 230 . 0001 . A soP Four pockets of New Hops arrive d at market this week, WI. at 70s. per cwt. SEEDS. PRICES OF LEATHER. a. Per lb. d. to d Per lb. d. too CropHides,3o to4olb. each 11 131 Horse g Hides, ( s , p e a rm nis a h n .... M ? a ---40 50 l2 16 ---50 60........13 18 Calf Skins,3o to 4,1b.(d05) i 24 Bull Hides --40 50 ...... ... 26 21 ... Butts, V triol... •50 60... •• 'i3 0 English ...... .. l5 24 ---70 100 ........ . 1 i 5 Foreign + oreign Hides ...... Dressing Hides ... - ....... 16 J 1 --.. —Shaved... 13 17 Basils... ........ . ........ ..... I r',. Bev Saddlers' Hides..... 15 lfit Bellies .. ..... .......... .. ~ IA Horse I.lides, English ... 11 1 , Shoulders...... ... ......... ' Call Skins, if rounded 2d. to 4d. por lb. more. PRICE OF OIL. Raps Oil,brozvn, per ton, 3, '/ Os. — Refl n ed , 37/.os. T inseedoeiri,t26ooi,r Linseed oil Cake at the Mill (LOW), 131. 0s. —Rape Cake , p OF TALLOW, 0 6 W d. , y S e O li tk w P s , 0kapc....p.e.r..1...121..b......5.....c 006.. Town Ta P lrow iC . E ., Yellow Russia.-- sls. Cd. Mottled .................... ..... 06. White ........ -.... ~. ocl. Soap Ditto ..... - el.. - - -40 i. Od. ikiod Dregs ............... ." Melting Stuff ..... ..... Ditto Rough ..,.„... 2 7 8, Od.l PRICE F li" A W FAT, per stone of SP-% 100' Price of Tallow (as stated by the Tallow Melters) ......... 2s• ~.- PRICL OF CANDLES. f o lios"'' The price of good Store t am'les in the Retail Shops is as s, '' „_ ' 96, Candles, per s d x o p z e e n n c , e B p s e . r Orl d . o. : 7e in , f d er is io co r u . n 7s t . f t o kl r . Ls ls b l . ould COAL. MARKET. l ' i. ~..i 0 Adair's Bell, Robson & Co. Hartley 18 0 Walls End Hartlepool ........ :‘ 2 , 2 , : Holywell Main 2l 0 Walls End Adelaide. .. ~„.."'i; 0 9 Original Windsor's Pontop 29 0 W.alls End HarringtolL.",, 1 e Tantield Moor '" 9 \Valls End Clavering le e ' ' 0 . West Hartley 21 6 Wrh's End Gordon ........ !, c, ,ii Willington 2l 0, Wall End Seymour l'ec.•:. 9 .2 F, Wylam. Walls Endßraddyll'sHetton 22 22 9 9 Walls ßiythe 1..:n..d.:.1.'.e.r.i.n..a. .....•..... ....... i i : ~ ,A Walls End Ha5we11...... 0 a Walls End Hetton Walls End Lainbton 23 3 Howard's Netherton 21 Walls End Russell's Hetton 23 0 Walls Errd Devonshire ~'. Walls End Stewart's 23 3 Ships arrived since 1 ,ast market -day, 11.9.0101,00,1 p t T AT C ire ORIZONT FL. with accurately finished jewelled movements, warra n t o elt t offered in silver cases, price Four Guineas and a 0 41 or, in gold cases, price Nine Guineas each, at T. COX SAVORY'S , Lea d 1, ° Watchmaker, Jeweller, and Silversmith , 47, Cernbill, Seven doors from Gracechurch-strect)• ~,e . (Second-handN.B.— Watches purchased in e 011°1" Isi allit. PLATE.—A.tfahcetußraißank kg .fSilversmiths, England ). B T 1 NI eSobA.,slVt4,O wroughtcl t o l rnh a Fi t ILD S I O nEd i cn ? co o g si l i ei a iige n ai d ivtsi F er Ci r: R acto K mth S me , at 7s. 2d. per ounce. 1 11 1 o a s c h i '',, i t l a S i r g P e h O t t e l O i r e N o w r S • recommended, but price e t ptehreouanrteiecl.esTPlnh.eaA, a a oz. s. cl• 10 5 0 12 Fiddle Pattern Silver Table Spoons 30 at 7 2... 7 3 0 2 ditto Dessert ditto 20 7 2 " . 10 15 4 dittoditto J 2 to 'table Forks 3O 7 2.. ' 7 - ti 12 ditto Dessert ditto 20 7 2 '" 3 l l i 2 ditto Gravy Spoons lO 7 ' 2 .. 3 11 *- 1 ditto Soup ladle 10 7 " 3 lti 4 diao Sauce ditto lO 7 e.- 1 : i 4 ditto Salt Spoons (gilt strong) .............. .• 1 1, t 4 ditto Fish Slice 12 ditto Tea Spoons Sugar Tongs (strong) .. ... ...... ... i .. ............ O a f 1 pair ditto A Pamphlet containing detailed Lists of . the p l e a 0 3 various Patterns of Silver Spoons and Forks, Sil ver a O re ' Coffee Ser- vices, and of thp different articles of Plate 00 01 may be had on application, or will be sent into tilt i „ fst; in answer to a paid letter ; the Plate Rooms of '_''',,;i s ite' blishment contain a large selection of every article rot complete a service. . of BIRTHS. On the 2d inst., at Brussels, the lady of Colonel Dic ks°l't f a son. urg he, ° a s O on n a t . h d e h s e t i h r. inst., at the Fleury, the Duchess of Roxl3 0, Stare' On the 6th inst., at Newington-peen, Mrs. B. et Sarni" of a daughter. el C . On the 6th inst., at Bucking , Essex, Mrs. auld, of a daughter. of MARRIE. chl On the 27th ult. , th e Re v. John D A T r en s hfordby .„_vie,°do' ~,1 St an t on -house, Wilts, to M ar y Eli zabeth Jane li! n d Fe et daughter of the Rev. Samuel Davies, of Northavt, ' cl, of Llanelly, Carmarthen. e f cisfar On the sth inst., at St. George's, Hanover-squar e, ; firl fh eldest son of M. L. Welch, Esq., of Wyndharn-11te„.,,, Gib stone.square, to Margaret, youngest daughter of J.— Esq., of Jermyn-street, St. James's. --- D. Jan e ' On the sth inst. , at Gifford lED House, Wolv erharnpw ear - ' lier r elict of James W heble , of Kensington, in the 89th Yd age, a nd 39th of her widowhood. Mr. ' W On the 23 d alt., at. Rotterdam , suddenly-, illi° Gorst, wine-inerchaut, of Water-lane, Tower-street. s _ , f s 4., On the 29th ult., near Glasgow, Tho mas stenhou e the _Strand, aged 74. -- - 1 t s " .' th inst., at Highgate, Alichael Grall' urs ' o fo f .r t ora h n a p t rt_i c hy i e_ t_ o y sf . -,"-'-- ------------- ---- „, n viNTG , .° London : Printed and Published by MURD° 1 " I. o ' Straw No. 112, Strand, at The Sun Office, No. 2, ~'- i ds 9. the county of illiddlesex.—TuesAay, SeptenslW 1‘.__.................:........,...0° ■