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sttrl ivsl 1:11 ins outs& tAA:4II" tkitlE =gilt in any oegree Interrupti that unanimity which he flattered himself w;_oulcli hive appeared , upon: this subjea. , It could not bet .flectssary .to.declate, that the M ot i on :nciw. before' . _• the House was without the FOPtaenaoce. of . Royal Hi g hp e S s the _Prince ,Of Vales ; it was utterly itutaissible 'for hint to have any doubt' Upon . that subject, ic.nowing, .as he did; what, }lts ,conduti had ,heen, .and ,what were the sett , Timm s of the Prince of Wales epon this sub. jet, he owned it was to him matter of surpr:ze ,rather than' any .other sensation. • ,With regard to the Message, .of Hon. ,Qpilltainan who lasr complained, and the proceeding upon_it, and the. share which His Majesty's Servants 'had in that proceeding, it was proper he should relate how. the ma tter st oo d Before. that Message was pre_ tented to the House, he tho4ght it his duty to make: nis Royal Highness acquainted - with it;. and he had . the satisl a diO n to say , t h at His R oya l Hi g h nessi not only acquiesced in it, big entirely approvethof tt.l With respeCt to the accounts which were stated to the House upon the affitirs:af Hisßayal Highness's' In- i cumbrances, he caused that Statement to be submitted 191 /jaßt4tabilighness,,togetlier with:theMotioil in. ' l".ClCd,t P be hlgil.c. , ancl , rf4ikkfteFreF4Wil'APAriao His Royal Highness was pitased to allopt i the Mo. tion, and he *conformed hitisselltai' farhs 'was con_ • sistent viithshisAuty),to thi wishes: , of AC Ati)Yal Highness in ,eve,ry particplar;NA.ajl ,te,prgparaNi t y ate is to the M ot i on , as • wqlk. the. Motion itself., I had the unqualified apProbatirin'of His loyal 1 ;!'ls• f‘ It,' .said - Mr. Anottittlkink, "' s Rd.Yal Highness had been.actpaiotedithilw:iotelitign.uf the Hon. Member who broughtforwatd this IMo. lionsl am sur d iliat,hewmild - have coide , ceeded to 11 14:e me alsoacquainte& with it but I alti anxious to be understood in evert pert tifthi'proFeetlicig:: the utmost Pins have: be'eti 'taken -by Eqsel( find other Minis ters to mar k 4very'SteV:in."-tifis vi need. irt_g with respeft and with due regard to the •Wishis Royal Highness. ' The flop. and Learned Gentleman' who spoke second in this behate h n lit • said, 'that he wished the House to att iseith lily towards the Prince pf ;Wales, further than had „ • been expresed by His Majesty its his Gra,cions tlessage—that this tivatt an'apPlicatidn to mend the Message of His 'Majesty' - , -these were the words of the l; ion: and' teamed Ceiltleoian, for he took them down, t ., litCh he apprehended the House 'would hardly chit I'. within its 'province, tinder the duty they owed to their SO'Vereign, to the Prince, or to the Public." - He would not contend that' the ,House wits not at liberty to sent to the. Motion svithout violating the rt.Ues,of the House, but he 'would contend that it could not he foll owe d . . u p . 'by 'ail exieitt Vote ftir money 'with any regularity .4hatOrer ; and it ryas the House to consider whether they would becotise Party' to a proceeding which could never beCOree tbleierit, consistently with one of the wisest rules of that House; he meant, char rule by 'Which it was under Stood that no vote should be' pro rse d, the efk'& of 'which was to impose any chirge tire the People of this Country without a previous re_ liolnatend.ition from the Cro wn ; and hie (lid not be. lieve that many could vote f or the Motion now , fe;re tl:e House, without eXpeding that it ghoul 4 be followed up by another, - fo'r granting-a atun'Of . Money to His R o y a l Highness; 'and, therehre he aunt say, that it' was impossible to' vote efficiently tipon this &Aka, without a recomMendation from the Crown, consistently with the Rules laid down by the House itself for the guid4nee of its Own pro:. ceedings. Now he had not received the' authority el l -1 4 Majesty to recommend such a measure, or to recommend any measure fur the di , 4Atarge of the Debts 'af' the Prince of Wales; and it tt 'Motion were now made for the appointment ofd Committee. for that potpOse, he should hold it to be his'duty tp Withhold that recommendation. It was said, that the words of the Message off its Majesty we re so general, that they admitted of the propriety of the I.lresent Motion, and that they implied the 'payment of the Debts 'of His-Royal , Highness the Prifiee Vales but in the name of flis Majesty's:ad v iiers, and of HiS Majesty himself,' he moat. beg leiive to say, it'was not intended by the last Message from His Majesty to suggest any thing towards the discharge ;Of the Debts of the Prince of Wales. kle/intsragy, it was impossible for any one who considered the• Message and the subject to which it referred, to have any idea that such a measure was in" the con tem pl a . tion of Government. 'lt was not to 'be doubted that every sentiment of respect and even of admi ration were entertained for his Royal Highness by every Member of that House indiViduaffk;' not w'ps it to he douhied, that every indiVid'Ual in the litibie Wished to see these*Debts discharged ; but in ilfelt capacity as Members 'of that House, 'it Was unbe coming in them to guppose that His Majesty WOuld r efer to such a mode as this to discharge' the, Debts of tits 'Royal Highness ; for of what descrii)tiOn . must - .these ,Debts be, if there were any ? They were not included in the Account of ins,. because provision was th en madefor tf. heir paymeif" -If there were any Debts then' exitting against Royal klighness,'hot inclUded in that Account,. the' AC.: . • count was. inaccurate or unfaithful ; or, they had been incurred in direa contravention of the .very •.\tet of Parliament Which - provided for' the livid?. tio n of the Debtspf His ltoyid Higlinesi; for . very that no Debt contratled Littler year 1,7,95 Olc.'hhillP'deelle4:ar.4?ell. this Was' a provision made in coma lance luti s t the desire eip‘e e ssed by lis • Dim M u. , tie s, read that-part or His Majesty's inesSasetto the w 'el" 1 ,795, which stated ttiat its Majesty would be ready concur up any inc h for estalgisttima Tkurtausi ofiler of P4M e.'i` 01 the beb - fI :P I . nce 6 4 ;loci • ;W u , t$ 0 ~ 114 • jur r ,;;.,',l"; PPSSlbthty At the Prlnct uwolud 44 so ont .4 a situation in future,] ) 0n • s tin s Mess;lge a regulation too)c place re, , peC,tlng the *airs of Hia'ROyal tligh46s' and this :Kg as well by tbe'Parliamentar P vision (nape upon it, His IClajestY-C9uld nor}enti7.: .tain any. idea that His Royal fbitiillCs4 iKiVe ! neu crttl'lny debts since t79e; re . was, thcrefore, inconsisten t w i th the whole Course of His Majesty's life, and inconsistent with the proceedings of Par. li amtt, to 'suppose that His Majesty looked forward to any , lutute 00t,. after such a hail been . It 4 cie, RoYal Highness cantradirg any. w'l" . ' • ' ' • " 41 trnpusr.inte for the House to ;:uposc that 1 • 1 4 Majesty, to the Mes s age of rise Y 6th of ear, or neotne. ht the years, a is to )uld be end of 'rinces S came High ey !lad tier.-- lad 'IT- claim means what legal to be , 'fiat ).nude Aceii ic, hr.- wiLit flon. nc. e sub•. iteSe VCDIS centractea Dy Jae rIITICe since 2795 Debts, if there were aoy, as theztthid" been ad.. vetted to, might be sari, ac it would be highly .honourable to His Highness to, wish to; discharge, but they tv , :re Debts which it was imps- . Bible for that House to examine ; it %Vac, indeed, consonant to their feelings to apprOve, app lauti„and , even admire His Royal Higl!pe.-ss's - gracious-01r. ! . pose of discharging them; but it was impossible' for them, consistently with their public duty; to take notice of them in that Hamel! it Watild be 4is. graceful to the House, and, he had almost said, dis„. graceful to ,that' personage himself top have it entered 'on the journals of the House, ---41 third proceeding for the payment of hrs•debts.; As to • the ;Debt due ',the Landgraye of Hesse; Cassel, there was no ,Scheciple of it, but there was an account of the adual amount of the whole; there; was no detail, but it Was - comprizedin the gross.---; 'Afttev ions ,to the stir of September a 795, it was men tioned that although the. account delivered into .Par liament, after a very minute and long investigation, stated the amount of the Debts of His Royal . Highnesicao be 4,20,0°01-but hisAight Honour able Friend, (he then-Ghancellot of the Exchequer, in order to alver possible'thistake4, - ,proposed a Vote of 650,0001. ; of this the Debt alluded to by the I:Honourable Gentleman imde; a ix 'ter; and thi difii ,,,colty of Discharging that Debt ,was such, that they were obliged to apply what was intended to, be ap. propriated to it,, to the discharge of'tither )) . ebts which-tiiiilardifiiculties did not attach ; in c ,n. ..r,"Ri‘ence of tithiph, as much -as had -been thus liqui gated of other Debts His Royal lii#llness.lll4,..l re. centry taken of this upon 'alter . C.)mmuni. -cation. with his Law AdVbiers. Such was the cOni. Ailloicatiooire hati,received from see. post..Gt.liticA n; sti to . think that thtsl;),, , ebt.veas c,ltiprei;cll;ied inthe,soss as 11e, hiaitatik brit . in that respeti the ileman was in error.. - ---There7 . Was an.6lll,9rimint adverted to , this night, anti On a fbriner"occasion, 'and to which he referrql wit extreme pain ; he m e ant ;that• WhiCh referred to the Revenues of the Outehy !of Cornwall ; and one 'Hik;Gentlerrian had said, that the 111-ince of Wales li t re . pot bge.n aq . :bur. den to the Lie knew that ibis question r oge t ccoy)4,,kie })tit in - .split fiopNe in : the invidious Ave: w 4 a_s__capiiblp ; Gent Lenten said, that this was an application s :not to the liberality nt Ake: j9stice , of Ake- flouse, and that • His Royal igtiF,ss.lllld triage gjeat sacrifice in this case, for that it he had Rr,ockeded iu hij claim, the result would h.ve peep t9,.e9441e lii, Royal Highntsa to pay all his Debts, and that he ought to he in 4 better flY'ktiP4 4kC tulip. Eyel4.4qft' hY ( 11 4' Aikl has *off fore I ) : 4eliwnent 'Npvy, with respet‘ii the Right tvitieli jia been so oinch talked of, he ISIB-pf4 : bg-Iltesuoiottions as t o e*press, nor so arro. &a,P.4s !P., RAY lie hdd formed an .opinion ; it was a point on which ht: li f t not think hitmtl.capAble 4- Gs fort i t l i t i l t e ig ml a r ;:e f rfe pc et whose u n d erstan di n i. an d c h ara 4l er pinion. An lion. and LearnA tile highest respea, accuracy of ex ressilyri lit iidinired (the Sgt. t C 11'6 R GsNiam , ), hod spoken upon t i le 'cinestiOn as a point in there idera riot). ere would tie no . slifference of opinion after lull e Wow lie would vent ur e to `,say, that ills s I„ , arn e d was nu; right if he imagined there was no difrence of opinion : the case r % • V a g so far otherwke, that the Noble and Learned Lord who is at the Bead, of the Law in England at moment, .had expressed an opinion that tvas unfit vnurable to ilte claini of Right asserted on the part of•HiOttlal IlikopSs. era glit entertain some doubts upon the qqestion, hilt certain it io ns, he had never expresspd'apy opinion in biota of the claim of Right on the patt of His loyal Higln,eps. With regard to the N o t ) l e atid Learned Lord who wi!siit tile; hoaci of the Law its Ireland, lie liad never said there was no di:Teier.ce of opinion upon that question, 'nor. LI lie ever ;4%1/I.:red or expressed any opinion in vont- of this l'etitiiin of 'Right. He was not stating what was the opinion of that Noble Lord, but as ire had never expressed that opinion, it was' a 14fle too ouilt to sa there Was an unanimity of opinion among the tAst learned t pen upon chi, very , intri,:ate question of. LAty, for that the two great anti the highest Law' Authorities in 'His I\l;T:sty's 9ioos were eXFp?tiopi to that statement of untmi , mitk'; the one, 41tbat!iih he might entertain tionbcs, 1 . 14 nvertheletis expressed an inclinatiOn of opinion, anTthat against the vlitlity of the Claim, and the ' other had'expresscd, no opinion upon the question ; he sratel this' to sbety, that the question was very far trolls being iffee . .from do* ; Fir these .reasons he cpul,d.haye wished, that gepOcineyi wgtild have. th . 0414 it pcoper.to ahstain from topics whielt Must be; 401Risr4nt to the tionse, ; to his own 'leLlin g s thcy were esitainly painful, nor,could it be agreea ble either , to fliti,'Maiesty, or to His Royal rliss, that such points should be tmde&ivies of tli cussion in that House. fie could only saT for himself, ;that had there been no proceeding' whatever (in the subjeft-matter, of the Petition pr. Right, if he had newer heard of it, -he should have been of Opinion, thAt the. Prince of 'Wales, under all rn the Circustan. ces of thepnent moMent,,ought to have had that which had been lately voted, to the use of His Royal . 'flip hneSs; 'He took no Relit whatever to himself,. for riot being of the Party to the compromise which had been so often mentioned upon thus He then observed, that, the statement of cite nourable Geotleman _opposite to' him was cant:it : 'That the whole amount of the Revenue of the D'UtellyOleornwall was 23+,090 , during the ini', notity Ofliis Royal Hight - lets', and that &ring the lastrivelve,years, there rlsad been . advanced by His Majesty, out of, the Civil List, 180,0001. That Wird . wis; as an Hotiourabla Gentleman opposite JultistAT,lo‘44,with an: accuritte xecollec.: ' tion had stated, a chameof 32,0001. for an advake nut arthe Civil List, jointly to the. Prince of Wrile.,i,.AO4' the , D ' OriA , of York, equally divided, and therehare a moiety m w of that sutra to the ac.: t tit qt. col ' klia Roy4l Highpfst s t the Prince .of Wales so' that. the, whole of: the money expended by His Nlaje4ty, and advanced out Of the Civil List, dun "the• minority Of the Prince of. Wales, was 'f he sum. of 5 : oopl. 4tiog allowe4*r the firit nine years, Which was th,e, sum now allow. 0 for the maintenance, of thliPtiPts of site Whole, charge bping.2 : 59,900f. ex;:etd. irg the receipts of the,Piltcby of Corioy4! (,11604 -rile 8181 e UT Me aCCOLI !lecher nt, lie MoOttid MR, W it was probable that thole whongreed 'with him in •onposing thisAotion; - -a measure of inquiry, did so, -.froin.any apprehension of the result f No,!t hey -were •-dispiisOd!to it from :the; most honourable motives, :aritt•so was His Majesty himself 'in 'making his „gracious -cOminunication to ;t iia t House, namely, from a motive of ;OrOitting the Atiscussion'of a topic :-.l44licitnaterally produced painful sensations;---He had _stated enough; hepreituned,:to satisfyihe House there was no ground :of ;apprehension of the result of the proposed inquiry to .occasion the resistance to it, 'for- if His Royal Highness was emitled to the pro_ ceeds.of the Dimity:of Cornwall, and that had been sufficient, Illere would. not have. been . any . provision .for'llim out of the Civil : - List, which was to Itim from the year t 773 to 1783. From 1-83 down to 17.87, His Majesty • advanced on account . 6f - the! -Prince, out of the Ciiiil List, at - the rate of so,000l.; ; a-year, and :from that period-down to the present, His Majesty advanced out of the Civil-List, 60;0001. 1 ,amounting in all to something less than'l,6oo,oool.. :was' compelled also -to :state, that the money which had been-deduffed from that sum, which had leen once.v otett to the Primed Wales to support his , rank, .and-'applied to the -pay(iient of his llebts, amounted-to litoo,ooQl. principal and interest. Under titsecircunissancevit.was .ttw much to 'have it insi. ruined, .orkliarged on Ministers, or Parliament, that there bad been withheld from His Royal 1 - lighriess that'which he'clearly ought to have,. - and that he • had made sacrifices to are Public. The argument in support of the Motion that appeared to him to haVe the 'greatest weight was this, that the i -ohliC interest was recognized in the public dignity of the Prince of Wales.—He admitted that -to be a grave-consideration ;.and yet there was another' still more sp ; and it was of less importance to the 'honour 61 the Prince himself, as well as to all other intervls, 'that there should be a delay in the Prince's to:Paling his own external dignity ) .than that the Partiainent should for-Nit-its consistency, in retog rti zing Alciits of which they had no knowledge, and which they *ere.' bound to presume, had -.aittual, since they could, ,not: have any legal estistencees•-for if: tare. account given in the year 4-74 s was.. accurate, His Royal Highness could have no .Debts. He' was, therefore, support• ing the .consistency of Parliament, in resistiok a proceeding by. Whieli.Parliameat would recognize Debts, which, by its own previous proceedings, it could'not suppose to exist. But lie was periedly convinced,. afier what was past, that on the part of His Royal Highness there would be no encourage ment held out, to support this Motion by those-who u!ete in the confidence of that illustrious Prince. He .had stated, that in every Bart of the conduit of Government, the most entire respedi was shewn to His Royal Highness. Every proposition made to)• and adopted by that House, had iseeri previously sub. mittedice And'had been approved of by His,Royal Highness, and therefore he trusted that those who were most in the confidcoce of His Royal Highness, were well satisfied, as the Prince himself was, with t h e proceedings which 'had taken plaCe already, aod would .concur .with hint in resisting a proposi,. tion, the. (skied of whieti was to obtain more, and • therefore he could not believe it passible - that they shouhl support this motion. He was unwilling to trespass further on the patience of the House, eSpe. cially as he ,perciived other Gentlemen were de.. 4i rous ll:tering their sentiments. He should only ,was sure that .in resisting this motion, w hi c h was eeitlier more nor less than an;lnquiry into : the Debts of the Prtr ce of Wales, which, without a.xight understanding _.of all the -circum stancesrsvoulti be indelicate in the extreme, he was dischargiog‘a diity *Welt ite . oweti to Majesty, ts4ttie - Prince,. to the House, and to the Public. Mr. FOX said, that among all the objenions which had le eh hroeght against - thii Motion, the one which al‘peared to him the Mint extraordinary was, that it was an indiretl Motion. It appeared to , him one of the most direa and plain that ever was toadF,, and tine that resulted naturallk iind . ne cissa6fy from the docntneots before the Rouse. He was also not ;little surprised at some of the doubts which.ltad. been thrown out by the Right Hon. Gentleman who spoke last, particularly with resped ~ro that gte.tt and : futulatuenial - principle. of 'that House, that no money could• be granted without a . recommendation from the, Throne. In the first r plAee, this.was not an application for money ; but surely the House must be aware that this principle, like many others, was liable to many exceptions, because the House did frequently, 'by means of Ad. dress, and in other . ways, make grants of money without recommendations from the Crown. ant without haVing recourse to that argument, it - seemed Initial ft., t the Message from the Crown completely warranted the mode of proceeding which was now proposed.---The purport of ,the Message, was, that the House , should .. adopt such measures 24' 2p. peared to -them proper to promote the cornfOrt, and support the dignity of the Prince- of Wales. . The tenaeney of this Motion then was evidently to fol. low the diretions, and comply ivith the spirit of that ::'Message, :because its object was to know whatmea. .sures were necessary to olnpote the comfort, and sup. :port the dignity of the Prince of Wales. He concUr. redin most of the arguments advanced by the lion. Gentlern9 behind him ; - India that Gentleman's :arguments were so strong, that, he was:surprised that no answer had'been attempted to be made to them. Bur thoggh he agreed with: that Gentleman in most fp: his propositions, he did not go quite so far as he ilid..ip Stlwe points. If, after an Inquiry had been nstituted, it should appear that the obstacles - to the rince resuttaing„ his spleridare Crete of a- n'tture , Such as the foreign debt which had been alluded to, he certainly should concur in any -- proposition oe rernovieg it. With regard - to the deduaion of. ten per cent. he thought also, - that itl that vas one of the obstacles, it ought to-be removed-4 hitt if they:consisted of Debts contratleet since 1795, :6e certainly was -Of opinion that the Houee was not $0111;t1 to remove them. The Rightilion. -Gentle.. man had stated, that, the account giren• of the ., Prince's-1)61s in 1795 w -els not mitred, - at the same 'time he contended, that it mast not .- - be . considered its on imt t .lerled statement ; .tete they -:must be men t)t torn) indeed if they could_ listen to that kind-Of argument, vu. that:they; must it, point - . . 0 t - f or hi , co, sitler that account 'as . corred, which they knew' to say that no 103ife was to ikatt:iched to any q u o r : ter, in consequen6e tnearred account havii;g been laid before the House OfCOnnitons; but that it was incorrectcould not fie . dispoted, arid it Must he • argued upon . as sdeit,."With reSpeet to th e qaestiari abOut the dech2(tion of to per Cent. he would not gti into any discossion upon it. An Hon. Member had stated the case of one of 'the Prince's Tnities; :men, and he had no- doubt that Many others Were in - similar situations.; but that ryas a sub. left that,. in his opinion, ought to be left to the consideration of His Royal flightless: If they went into a tominittee, and the Pri nce t h oug h t proper to make any commtihication num the sub.: je6t, it wauld'be then t i me enuug h lO r the House id take it into consideration. With resped to any other debts,..hchad. no reason to suppose that any had been contraeled since the year 1795. The dis. eussion upon this stihjea had involved the question of the Revenues of the Patchy of Cornwall, and the Right Hon. Gentleman had said, that conside4 able donbts existed among reat Law Aulh.rilic:s With regard to the Prinee' s Claims ; :that upon such a subject there should be some doubts was not an ° . fishing, but it appeared, even from the Right Hort. Gentleman's statement, that the.preponderance of legal opioions was in favour, of the 'Pr Speaking,"however, as , a Conitn Man, iufa ~o(: a s t Lawyer, that His Wriciest i y could not be inivieti to come into a 'Court of justice; and say in a s -5 A• e r to the Prince's Claim, is trite that I r'sceivcd the - Revenues of the Dutchy of Cornwall, I then I educated the rrince of Wales hand;oMely, and gave him the same Masters that I 'gaye toner Sons, and therefore I roust be paid 'for Sikh aplea, lie was convinced, could neyer be made. It was too much to say That the Prince's cLihr. had .been abandoned, because he could make nothing of it. He :wished to ask whether the suit had not made 'sonic progress, and whether a wish had nor °been expressed to HiS Royal Highness, that the proceedings sly , uld be (he would t . iot .itopped . , but) delayed ? So far from considering that there Was any thing improper in the Leal Investigation of Oat-Question, he _should, if he -had been an att viset.of the ,Prince, say, that it would be better that the Question 'shOuld be 2-4nicably discussed in A legal way. He now came to what , had -been saia About,the necessity of the Prince living in the spleO. dor doe to his rank ; he was one of 'those who did nat think that , the dignity of a Prince or i'Vloriatch depended altoget her upon the numtier of Lords that hehadin attetni.ince, but still that kind of stare was'fat to he considered as nothing, for, though the' succession was hereditary, yet r irtues were not; and hoWever convinced the House might be ot 4 the virtues of the present Sovereign and the Heir Alsireot, yet they could not be sure that inluture times Princes might possess the same virtues; and thetefore a pro. per provision ought to be made to supplit the dig nity .of persons in such exalted situations. in every point of view, hOwevez, in which he eituld consider this question, he could see no possible reason Why an inquiry slvoidd not take place. It upon investi. gation it should appear char a large stun was ne. cessary to remove the ; incumbrances Upon the Prince of Wales, wimp! he should' not agree to it; if a small sum would he Suficient, he thought the House ought to grant It. Among the Prince's debts thete was one that he thought deserved some consideration, and that was, the •suln!: xhieh had been laid out upon Carleton.H.nse.' His Ma.Psty. bad lent tile Prince that house for a. resiticoce, but' it-was in such a state that it was absolutely neces. sary to expend a very large sure upon it, tninake it a fit residence for His Royal Highness ; and it should also be recolleeted that the Prince had poly ao,opol. given to him as tv-. kind of outfit in life, so that it was dlivious that he must evitably get considerably in delit. \Viol re. gar& to. the debts of the Civil List, they had been frequently paid, viz. in 1769, ,in T 777, anJ i n 17 8 2: th ere was an arringement in 1766,' an d in 0302„ they were completely paid off, and upqn no other ground- than the great inmate in an' the articles. or life. This he thought was aha modz of proceeding, because if you increased the t . 1c0m4.-s of Princes when the price or the articles of life- were dear, they would find it very diffi.Mt to' lower them rc herr the prices fell, It had- always' been considered as bad policy (he meant nothing disrespectful in the observation) to raise the wages -of servants when provisions were dear, because it was hardly ever possible to reduce them when pro. visions were cheap. He wished again to repeat, that the whole effed of this:Motion was tn go into . an inquiry ; the House by assenting to it would not' pledge itself to any payment unless they saw the 'most satisfactory: easons: if upon 'the whole the objeia of this Motion could be accomplished without :any great , inconvenience to the Public—lf Ihe Prince COUI4I be placed in a situation in which her had fever yet been placed, viz. put in possession 'of .a ,free, unshackled Ineorne, he should- think that ,a most desirable object had been obtained. At all events, .whatever the deeiiign -of the Hnos c migh t . be, the CharAder of- the Prince of Wales was not implicated, because it was brought forward without his knowledge, and it was impossible to assert that the Prince had made any application to that House, Since the Arrangement of his, affiiirs in 1795. tic concluded by declaring that he would vote lot tits Original Motion. , in ex ; 7 ')l 7j a n e a C t i l u i n AN said, L'E t L litt ° h •g e ba c9r d l i b i t e never a C s•;, ll e [' E t that 'R t he Prince had given up his claim, because he could. not Maintain it; on the c , mt:-.ary, he believed that His RoyaMighness, was pertc,:tly ci)ns limed of-the kis., rice of his claim. Mr. FO N said, he had not attributed such lan_ goage to the Right lion. Gentleman ; he itcrely meant that such an inference znignt be drawn from his language. Sir WATltitt , WILLIAM,; Wyitrit supported the original Motion, Lord ST...INLAY noticed a diffcrtncebetwten His Majesty% late Metwage, and those 'of 174 ai4d 4795• Tice Cworucti,ot of the , EX es eir ea explained. Mr. ERSKINE explained at SOMIC length. Ile on.lerstooll, that the preporiderAnce of legal opirlion, was in faviwr of the Prinve's Ct irt7s to the kev,:. nne3 of the Dutchy of Cornwall 4rillg c his ininnri. ty. ,his feelings on the aubjed were, be sail, pre.