The Sun. — London, England, 1839-03-06 00:00:00

EVEN ENG EDITION. unfortunate, especially when the Admiralty bad the means regard to the difference of the armament of the ships, there of giving eve r y information. In conclusion he thanked was a great difference of opinion in the Navy, and he should the House for the attention with which it had listened to reserve himself on that point till the Estimates came before him—( Cheers)—and begged to move " That with due con- the House. On the present motion he must decline voting sideration of the exigencies of the State, it is important to with the Gallant Admiral. the interests and honour of the country that either Majesty's Lord INGE STR E expressed his concurrence in many ships in commission shall have such a complement of men of the views stated by the Gallant Admiral. He appre as will render them efficient in any emergency, and that an hended, from what bad fallen from the Secretary at War, humble address be presented to her Majesty praying that that it was impossible the subject could be referred to the her Majesty will be graciuusly pleased to enlarge the powers Commission ; but that was no reason why it might not be of the Naval and Military Commission now sitting, so as referred to the Board of Admiralty. He hoped these to embrace the subject of pensions, and every other sub- grievances would be considered by the Admiralty at no dis ject which they think beneficial to the public service."— tant Adm day. (Hear, hear ) iral ADAM said, ae the Navy Estim a t es were s o Mr. G RANTL EY BERKELEY seconded the mo- soon again to come under the consideration of the House,. lion. Ile thought it would be better to have fewer ships many of the topics dwelt on by the Gallant Admiral would and well manned, than to have a large number of ships ill be more fitly discussed then than at present. A most corn mimed. It had been acknowledged by the Hon. Member plete inquiry had been made into the several means of pro for Halifax in his speech last night, that increasing con- vision and retirement, and he trusted when the Repot of deranation had followed every act of the Admiralty. If the Commission appeared, that it would be quite satisfac that was the case there must be something wrong in the tory. As to going into any further discussion, he was gra- . management of the Admiralty, awl be hoped the House tified to hear his Hon. Friend state what was the opinion would agree to the motion of the Gallant Admiral, and of the Duke of Wellington, and he believed it would ap. mark its sense of that which had gone before. The Gal- pear that arty further inquiry was unnecessary. As the !ant Member for Sandeich last night (Sir T. Troubridge) Commission had not yet finished its inquiries, it would be apeeared to have taken umbrage at what had fallen premature to address the Crown on the subject. As to 'corn the Hon. Member for Bristol (Mr. F. H. Berkeley), the question of complements, it was very unadvisable ,rd appeared to dislike the term " nest of hornets" being that there should be these complements.—( Hear, pplied to the Board of Admiralty. Without wishiog to hear.) It was of more importance to the service , y anything disrespectful to the Gallant Admiral, he for that a number of ships should be employed, so that e would rather liken that Board to a nest of drones,— ( ffieers should obtain experience. It had been stated again eel t 4—and if the head of that Board chose to place that it was better to have fewer ships and more men. He sif it, the light of a Queen Bee, he had the power to should say that they ought to have as many ships as the but if he permitted the English Flag to suffer the men could properly manage ; he was perfectly ready to it disgrace, the Head of the Admiralty was not en- state the' there was such an establishment as ought to give the confidence of the country.—( Hear, bear.) He satisfaction to the service and the country at large, and he e hints thrown out by Captain Berkeley in his could not but regret that any gentleman should have put ist would not he forgotten by the Admiralty, and he before the public that which he ought to have reserved for ask whether Captain Berkeley would have been dis- Iris colleagues at.d the Board. This had led to a result I from his situation if his views had coincided which lie ( Admiral A.) sincerely regretted, for there was the First Lent cf the Admiralty ?—( Hear, hear.) no one for whom he had a greater respect, but he could sass gl a d t h a t c a ptain Berkeley did publish that state- not stand here and allow it to be said that it was Captain a aed he trusted that he would never see one 4 his Berkeley's pamphlet which drove his Colleagues to consider , ly •I:liged to sit at the Board, and, like a blind puppet, what was neceis try, and he must say that it was rather ciag at the will of his leader.—( A laugh.) He was singular the pamphlet should have been written at all, for a the m o ti on of t h e Hen, and Gallant Admiral would at the time it was put forth the subject was under the full tires' good, and he felt much pleasure in seconding it. consideration of the BOard, and the only difference of opi terd HOWICK would not offer any remark upon the talon was as to some slight modifications. There were anon of the Gallant Admiral, of which no notice had several topics which the Gallant Member for Brighton had 'en given, nor would he go into the Hon. and Gallant eetcred into which had better come under the considers eficer's statements. He rose merely as a mem- tion of the House when the Navy Estimates were brought .r o f th e Commission on Naval and Military forward, and on these he should, therefore, decline giving ran-16°1-A to express his opinion that the duties which any opinion at present. ae! r!.• devolved on it were as much as they could with ad- Captain BOLD E R 0 wished to put a question to the , e ,'..;:: be called upon to perform. It was of considerable Gallant Officer opposite as to what had taken place last 1 ~:-. ~a-e that the Report of that Commission should be night. After he (Captain Boldero) had delivered his opi • a.'y ei possible presented to the House, and it would niens on the question then under discussion, the Gallant e eaere 1,)., quite impo=sible for it to undertake the gene- 05ficer said there had been too much party spirit in dis e i el&ry which the Hon. and Gallant Admiral had re- cussing this point. He wished to know if the Gallant ra, l t o . li e really k ne w not where the terms of such Officer meant by that observation to apply it personally to :1...ea:0 or i nqu i r y w :tilt' stop. He hoped the C'rrn- him (Captain Boldero). He never was such a bigot or so us , , , ii would be able to make its Resort shortly after blind as not to listen to reason—( Hear, hear)—and if his ;:aster, an d meant i me he would state that at a meeting votes were looked at, it would be found, that one-third of r tlie Commission that morning, his Grace the Duke of them had been given on the other side of the House. Sa.!tington had expressed an opinion against tha pro- The man who showed party spirit on a military question was real en l arge d i nqu iry. He (Lord II.) had asked his unworthy of the coat he wore or of a seat in this House. So eras, whether he was authorised to express in his name long as he had the honour of a seat in this Elouse he would give hat the object of the inquiry had been already sufficiently his opinion openly, honestly, and fairly, and never mix party xten led, to which his Grace had answered that he was spirit with a question of such vital importance.—( Hear, at .libcrty to express his decided opinion to that (ff act. He 'hear. ) rie , ted these few words would induce the House to le ject The SPEAKER said that in many of the discussions in in arldross to the Crown for such a purpose. this House, it was constantly said this is a subject in which sir GEORGE STAUNTON defended the conduct there ought to he no party spirit, and it ought not to be af St. John Barrow, who had been for thirty yei:s a ser- introduced—( Hear, bear,)—and he did not think that any '.tilt of the public. In the work to which refeience bad offence ought to be taken at such a general observation. eei made, Sir J o hn Barrow did not come forward it, the Captain PE CHE L L bad no hesitation whatever in sa aracter of Secretary of the Admiralty, but having a work tisfying the Hon. and Gallant Officer. Ho was not the press, he considered it a prober opportunity for aware that he had incurred the displeasure cf the H. n and Gallant Officer, and he had not for an instant the 'og cert a in statements which It Id been circulated out the country in various ways, and which were slightest idea of making any reflection on him—especially ,red to affect the honour of the Navy. Sir John when the Gallant Officer was actually advocating the ie• had not attacked the professional character of any very cause he had at beam-4 Hear, hear.) ; but when charges were brought forward undsr the Mr. HUME protested against any further pension's eteme of a Flag Officer, who he deuhted not was a iiiehly being granted, although he concurred with the Hon. and speetable man, and that when another officer, giving his Gallant Admiral, Sir E. Codrington, that a great many e.rae, but appea r ing in the character of a pamphleteer, persons received pensions disproportioned to their services, . attacked the Navy, Sir John Barrow, had answered these while there were many in the Army and Navy who did ~ttacks, as belied the power to do from his experience and not receive adequate remuneration. In the returns of the from official documents, and as he ( Sir G. Staunton) be- last year it would be found that upwards of 11,000.000/. lievcd, in a most satisfactory answer. The unanswerable was p aid for the services, effective and non-effective, of speech of the Secretary of the Admiralty last night was these in the Army and Navy. 7,158 000 h was pa'd for the a complete confirmation of Sir John Barrow's statements. whole efficient service of the Army and Navy, while Captain PE CH EL L did not rise to discuss the ques- 4,114,000/. was paid for pensions. That was a singular tion pending between Sir John Barrow and the Admiralty fact.— (Cries of " Hear, hear, hear.") He considered it was a very pretty quarrel as it stood. He beged that the whole question of pensions required i evi to express his satisfaction at the able and efficient state- sion. There were too many who received pensions meat of the Hen. Secretary of the Admiralty on the pre- and did not deserve them. The House of Commons last , 6 i vi,-us night, but he must say that he heard with very great ni g ht was in a very extraordinary state. Talk of Tory pain the statement of the Noble Lord below him, coming houses—talk of unreformed houses--he had never wit as it did from such high authority, that the Duke of Wel- nested such symptoms of extravagance in all his life as lington thought the inquiries of the Commission ought not were manifested last night.—( Great laughter.) Ever to be further extended. He regretted it the more because since he had been in the House, it had been his good for the Navy had expressed much satisfaction and confidence tune or rather his bad fortune to attack the public depart hi the Noble Duke, and had looked up to him for a retirees ments for having the estimates too large, but last night the cf its grievances. He hoped the Noble Lord, the Secre- p art y was p ut on his defence because the estimates were tare for th e H ome Department, would take into considers- not hi g her. That was q uite a novelt y .—(Lau g hter.) tics the statements made by the Hon. and Gallant Admiral He bad nev e r ex p ected to hear it said , "we have never (meals iegton) beside him, and although the powers of the made any reduction, we have gone on increasing year after preeeit Commission might not be enlarged, he hoped the ) e a r, " and the House, will it be beli e v e d, was in raptu r es ilau:e would feel itself called upon to interfere on be- with that statement.—(Laughter.) After that he would half of that deserving and suffering class of men. say no more.—( Renewed laughter.) The Gallant Admiral had gone into details which the Sir E. CODRINGTON rose to make a few observa- House had listened to with great patience. He feared they tions In reply. He only asked for pensions for those who would not bear with him so patiently; but he would not bad been severely wounded, and who were entitled to'them detain there longer than he could help. The Gallant for their s ervices. A com p laint had been made that be A.l:niral might Nava taken a wider field. He (Captain had not brought this subject on when the Estimates were Pechcll) complained that the officers of the Navy were moved, but he begged leave to say he would grasp every net ptced in the situation which they ought to occupy in opportunity for advocating the cause of the Navy—it was many instances. The Peerage was not open to naval a duty he had prescribed to himself, and he was deter officers. It was true the Gallant Admiral had mentioned mined to pursue it. He felt justified in having called the the names of Duncan, and some few others; but these Gal- attention of the House to the subject on the present occa lairt Officers had not attained to those high honours which sion. Although be never wished to go into battle again, the country would haVe liked to have seen showered yet he would be glacito do so if he could take all the Mi en them. Then, with regard to the last appointments in aisters with him, and should also like to have the Hon. the Order of the Bath e only four naval officers had been Member for Kilkenny.-(Laughter). They would then, included in the list ; and when compared with the number perh a ps , a l te r their tone, and would sa y that seamen were of officers i n th at li st i n t h e East India Company's service, very ill paid e . --(Hear, hear.) It was all very well for men every 0. - m must be struck with the disparity. The appoint- to sitein that House, and to say that pensions ought not to ments cf Governors of Colonies were not so open to naval of- be granted. He agreed that pensions ought not to be fleas as they ought to be ; neither were the Consuls to foreign given to men who had large stipends, but pensions ought parts. He would put it to the House whether it would to be given to those who fought for their country, and woo s not be advisable that the Consuls at Calais, Bouloeno, deserved them. Wit h regard to the two publications tha Bordeaux, and other sea-ports should be Naval Officers had been alluded to, it ought to be recollected that Capt' whose half-pay might merge in their appointments ? It Berkeley's pamphlet was consequent upon Sir John Bar" 4551 only fair that the Admiralty should receive the ap- row's. He thought Capt. Berkeley was perfectly justified Pnistment of one Page to her Majesty who might receive in having put forth those opinions. Captain Berkeley was a commission in the Navy. At present all these com- an excellent Officer, and made an excellent member of the missions were given into the Army; be asked this as an Admiralty, and he was sorry that the Admiralty bad been act of justice to the Navy. With respect to pensions, he deprived of his services.—(" Hear, hear, from Mr. C. heped that the Government would give their attention to Wood.) the statements of the Gallant Admiral on that subject. The motion was negatived without a division. If he asked if the officers of the Army were deprived of TURNPIKE TRUSTS. their half-pay on their appointment to any office, he would Mr. MACKINNON would detain the House but be told that they had no official dispensing order enabling a very short time in bringing forward the motion of them to receive it. He should like to know why the Navy which he had given notice. He wished this measure was not entitled to a similar advantage? C a pt a i n Napier, bad been taken up by the Government, or by the who had been recently appointed to a ship, had Honourable Member for Hants ( Mr. S. Lefevre). been deprived of the pension which had been granted In 1836, in a Committee, of which he had the honour to hint for his services on his receiving that of being Chairman, and after investigating the matter as a i )pointment ; he mentioned this case because far as possible, they felt compelled to come to the same it was one which had caused great dissatisfaction amongst determination as the Committee of the House of Lords. naval officers. The Gallant Admiral had quoted returns His object was to obtain a Select Committee for the pur which showed the necessity of ships being sent to sea in a pose of taking into consideration the best means, in the first proper manner ;it was impossible to give the question the place, of consolidating the various Turnpike Trusts through go-by ;it had been made too much a party question. He out Great Britain, which had been recommended by Corn eas convinced that the present Board of Admiralty had mittees of both Houses. His next object was to as not sent ship s t o sea i n a wors e condition than they had cer t a in in what manner the 8,000,0001. of debt now formerly been sent. Their predecessors, during the time owing by those Trusts could be liquidated. It was of the American war, had been quite as blameable on this perfectly clear that the establishment of railroads subject as th e y h a d b een . Th e C a pt a i ns o f t h e M ace - t h roug h ou t the country would not only increase dvitan and the G uerr i ere h a d b een sacr ifi ce d by being sent that debt, but render the security - on different lines of road per to o sea with inefficient crews ; the ships were good enough, fectly nugatory. The money had been advanced, not by wealthy but hey were undermanned. He was sorry to have to p ar ties, not even by the middle classes, but by persons whose differ with the H on . S ecretary o f t h e Admiralty, but he all had been advanced for the security of the tolls, which now , could not agree with him when in justifying the conduct of by the establishment of railroads by this House, had been ut the Admiralty, in not increasing the complements of the terly done away -ith. The evidence taken in 1836 went to ships, he had stated that the present complements were show that in all the lines of road which had run parallel with the equal to what they were in time of war, because in war time railroad, the tolls were lessened in a most unparalleled degree. ships were expected to detach portions of their crews in wiz Railroads were essentially a monopoly—they must become the VCF is. He would observe that this necessity existed as i much e ' both goods and passengers along the whole line on carriers of 1F .n the time of war. With regard to ships on the African which they i w eh en h t,: i .nd it was essentially necessary that the Le -3° i e o x n i s p t r e e n r c e e n to t tthheo evilsse .atior, if they took a slaver or a piratical vessel, they were §isl s a o t m ur e e h attendantthere- obliged to accompany their prize into port, in consequence on y . He e s w ystem of legislation imputed no blame to her Majesty's Ministers, nor to of not having a sufficient crew to detach a sufficient number any one—the Legislature was in fault, and it was the duty of to take care of the prize; and thus the cruising ground was the Legislature, therefore, to provide that some code should be left open to slave shipping . He bad himself, when in the established far future railroads. He did not find fault with West Indies, the command of what was commonly called a railroads. On the contrary, he was a great friend to them, a jack-ass frigate--one of those ships that could neither fight and had always supported them in that House, but at the same time, while they conferred a lasting, benefit upon that country, nor run ; however, after a considerable trouble and anxiety, c o a i r t e h o a u t g . ht to be taken which individuals should not be deprived he had managed to get alongside a piratical vessel which, although sire carried only ten guns, had actually more men viz.,public'ecurtiolyisupo,%wehi h they b had advanced their money, y aa w d e t T ie pu lac itrortye.tthe time the than the vessel which he commanded. There had been money was adv.anced,had been done away consequently considerable difficulty experienced in keeping with by the Acts of the Legislature . securityt was fir her Majesty's the pirates in order, and he had been obliged to accompany Government to do as they thought fit on this subject ; all that the vessel himself in consequence of not having a sufficient he (Mr. Mackinnon) was anxious for was that justice should be crew to place on board her. He did not blame the present done. The Hon. Member concluded by moving for a Select Admiralty for this, but the syste m ; h e must do honour to Committee to examine into the subj ec t. the Gallant Officer for his expressions and exertions on this Mr. CRAWLEY seconded the motion. subject ; and he fully agree d with the G a l lant Ad- Mr. F. MAULE said he thought th e enly ground which the Honourable Member had made out for a Committee, was to in miral as to the necessity of sending ships to sea in a quire into the effect of railroads in d e t er i orat i ng t h e secur i t i es state of efficiency ; and he did ho p e that th e House on public roads . With respect to consolid a ti on t h ere h a d b een would support the Admiralty in t heir ende a v ours to in b o th Houses committees id nauseant. Twice had the Go remedy the defects which existed on this subject. The vernment brought forward measures for consolidation, an d Gallant Admiral had alluded to the case o f the mids hip - offered to advance the requisite securities; but the influence of men : they were a class of officers whom be had taken ran- those interested in the present system had prevailed with Mem der his particular care. The midshipmen received 13. Bd. bens opposite to defeat those propositions. At the existing a day, or 35/. ss. Bd. a year. He found that there were period no Government could be expected to advance the public 373 midshipmen employed, and that the pay of , a ll the funds on securiti es so muc h deteriorated.—(Hear.) If the midshipmen amounted to 2001. less than the pay of the Honourable Member would alter his motion, and confine it to Lords of the Admiralty. The case of the Midshipmen was the effect of railroads on the public roads, he (Mr. F. Maule) would agree to it. peculiarly hard with respect to pension. The Gallant Admiral had drawn the attention of the House to the case of a mids 11 s l i r. A G It. G CKINNON said he would agree to that alteration. R STRICKLAND said the Honourable hipman who, in copse of an ,accident on Mem r ber had clearly enough ear exposed the evil ; but he had board a steam vessel last his leg, and had been, in conse- not founds remedy.—( A ra s i l, r o oa tE d i s e d t e h t e erioraton of the H e resultsar )Forof thein gum-me allowed a pension of 601 . a year; but when this securities on the public roads .) b officer had received an appointment to a guard sh p, this railroads were not at present clearly known.—( prnsion had been stopped. The Gallant Admiral had, stance, in the case of the post-horse duty, which it was ex - - consequently recommended him to promotion, and had, in petted would have been quite annihilated by the railroads, the consequence, remedied the injustice.—( Hear, h ear .) H e speech of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the oth e r n i g ht, heeed that the officers of the Commission wou ld see had shown that this expectation was mistaken. And fro m the that the House was determined to do something to remedy proposition of the Secretary for Ireland, as to Irish railways, it th e ge ievances complained of. He believed that the Board was doubtful what measures were to be taken by Government of Admiralty knew that the country bad determined that in respect to railways in general. the ships should be sufficiently manned—the grievances of Mr. WARBURTON thought the Committee, as now pro the Navy remedied. He hoped some good would arise Posed, would be premature, as it would have, if appointed, not from the discussion, and that the Gallant Admiral would to inquire into facts which had taken place, but to exercise the live to b e rewarded for h i s exert i ons on t hi s su bj ec t. gift of prophecy. here was but one great line of railroad yet completed, viz., Captain GORDON said that he should be prepared to that from London to Liverpool, and surely it would be better to give an opinion on many points which had been brought to wait five or six years to ascertain what would be the result forw ar d when the Navy Estimates were under the consi. of the Railways at present in progress of formation before any deration of the House, and he should therefore reserve his step was taken. opinion until that time, but the Gallant Admiral had so Mr. MACKINNON replied. He did not think the Hon. mixed up this question that he really did not know how it Member, the Under Secretary for the Home Department, had ,'"t Paasible to give a distinct vote on the subject, because stated the case fairly. If the' House adopted the suggestion of the Hon. Member for Bridport, they utlet 't til much "Brat Proposed a resolution stating such and such to be more mischief had been done, which i w t . was the wat object un of the lie Opinion of the House and then he attached to it an thlress to the Crown. Committee he proposed to appoint to avert. If the House vard a proposition simply for Gallant Admiral brought granted that Committee, clauses might be introduced in all would be a subject very fitt the revision of pensions, future Railway Bills to prevent the mischief which was likely ere into, considering tla d ing for the Commission to take place. He would withdraw the motion in conformity 'lowed to the Army, ;Urines, derma pensions which with the suggestion of the Hon. Member opposite.—The m end Navy. With thin was then withdrawn. I that t 1.1 ziLrb( vcBu'- REGISTRATION OF VOTERS (IRELAND). Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN moved for leave to bring in a Bill for the better registration of voters in Ireland. It was only necessary to refer to the proceedings which had taken place in Election Committees to convince the House of the necessity of the measure. In 1335 a Bill to the same effect had been brought in by the present Master of the Rolls in Ireland (Mr. O'Loghlen), which had received the sanction of that Hou te. In 1836 a similar • Bill had been brought in by the Government, which was not prosecuted. Seeing that the Government had no intention to bring in a Bill on this subject in the present Session, he (Mr. Smith O'Bi ien) had taken the liberty to bring forward the present measure, which he hoped would receive the sanction of the House. The leading features of the Bill were to give the utmost possible facility to bona fide voters, who were anxious to register. He proposed also to bring the registry into the immediate neighbourhood of the voter, so as to put him to as little trouble or expense as possible. He proposed that the registration should be annual ' • and to prevent frivolous or vexatious objec tions being raised, he proposed that the parties objecting should have the onus probandi thrown upon them ; and in al cases where the objections were wit sustained, the party objected to would be entitled to costs. He proposed that the Revising Barristers should be the present Assistant Barristers, as was provided in the Bil: of last year. It was his ( Mt. O'Brien's) opinion that these Barristers should be provided, and paid by the Crown ; but finding that measure would be objec tionable to the other side of the House, ho had given up his own opinion and omitted that clause. The Bill also gave a power of appeal on both sides, and he thought he was justified in providing that with these securities the registry should be final.—( Hear, hear.) The other Bill which he had intro duced was one to regulate the polling at elections in Ireland. He would propose that the poll should be regulated in a manner similar to that adopted in the English boroughs and counties, and should not extend beyond one day; but if it should be deemed advisable not to alopt this arrangement, he would not particularly press it ; under these circumstances, he trusted he should be permitted to lay the Bill before the House. Lord NIORPETH said, that understanding the Bill of his Hon. Friend is intended to carry out the Reform Bill, and not to contravene it, he should not oppose the present motion, and if the Bill turned out be such as to meet the approbation of both sides of the House, he should be very glad of it, although he did not give credit even to his Hon. Friend for being able to bring forward a measure which should please all parties.—(llcar, had introduced a Bill, the object of which was to apply to that purpose the sum of 13,0001. a-year, and by that means super sede the necessity of his (Mr. Baines') motion. He was not aware of the extent of the motion, but until he had aster= tained the extent he would withdraw his motion. The motion was then withdrawn. TRADE WITH THE BALTIC. Mr. MILNER GIBSON then moved for a return of any despatches, communications, and correspondence that have passed between the British Mission at Stockholm and her Ma jesty's Minister for Foreign Affairs, during the years 1837 and ISM, relative to the port of Slito in the island of Gottland. The subject was one of very great importance to the commercial interests of that country, and he regretted to say that much apathy had been exhibited by the British Mission at Stockholm upon the subject.—( hear hear.) He hoped the Noble Lord the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs would make no objection to his motion. He believed it would be found that the greatest activity and exertions bad been used by the Russian Minister with the Swedish Governm ott, to prevent the port of Slito being made a free port, although that measure would be most advantageous to the commer cial interests of that country. If the Noble Lord could make it appear that real injury would take place to the public interests by the production of these paper s, or that a bona fide negotiation was going on with Swe den on the subject, he would not press his motion, but he cer tainly should press it unless the Noble Lord could make this appear, as, in addition to all other advantages , British ships would no longer be exposed to the obnoxious Custom House regulations of the Port of Cronstadt. • The Hen. Member con cluded by moving for the return, and sat down amidst loud cheering. Lord PALMERSTON objected to the motion, because, although he admitted that making Slito a free port would be of great advantage to British commerce, yet still it was a matter relating entirely to the domestic arrangements of Sweden, with which no foreign power had any right to interfere. If t he mot ion were agreed to, the returns would merely state that application had been made to the Swedish Government on the subject, and that the application was still under consideration, and he thought that the Swedish Government had as much right to press this Government on the question of the Sonthaqipton Docks as the British Government had to press them in reference to the making Slito a free port. If the Russian Government hid in terfered in the manner alluded to, such int erference was unj it 4 ifia ble, and neither the British Government nor the Howie of Com mons had any right to interfere in the domestic armaments of Sweden. A Consul at Stockholm had not yet been ap pointed, but the gentleman who was acting as Consul performed the duties of the office most efficiently. • Mr. GROTE would support the motion, becau . ,e he had understood from his own constituents that this was a question of great importance to the interests of British com merce. He considered that the presence of diplomatists in fo reign countries was principally useful for the purpose of coun teracting the influence which might be exerted against the interests of their country, and he entirely differed from the Noble Lord as to what constituted the duties of a British Mi-ister. hear, and a laugh.) Air. DARBY said a few words which were inaudible in the gallery. Mr. GORING said he should be glad if the time f polling was lessened, but at the same time the number of pr l!ing places ought to be increased. He believed the Liberal jia . rty ii Ireland were against giving each Member of the constitu ency an opportunity of voting without being intimidated by the mob.—( Hear, from the Opposi ion Benches.) He would appeal to the Hon. Member for Tipperary whether the voters in that county had not frequently to :ravel upwards of eighty miles to Clommel to record their votes. He would ask the Hon. Gentleman whether it was his intention to intro duce a clause appointing a polling place in each Barony, as it was useless to facilitate the acquisition of the franchise, unless the exercise of it was facilitated also. Mr. HUME was sure that if the Hon. Gentleman had read the report respecting the cumber of polling places in England, he would not have asked the question. His Honourable Friend could have •no objection, and he (Mr. Hume) should wish to see the number of polling places so increased that each voter would not have more than five miles to travel, and this he thought he might walk without putting the candidates to any expense—with re gard to intimidation he did not know whether the Hon. Gen tleman voted for the Ballot, but the Ballot was the proper re medy for intimidation. —(Cries of "No !" from the Opposi tion benches, answered by cheers from the Ministerial side of the House.) He (Mr. Hume) would contend that it was so— that improved registration, an increased number of polling places, and Vote by Ballot, were the proper remedies for dimi-. nishing the expenses of election and preventing intimidation. Col. PERCEVAL was not present when the motion was brought forward, and was therefore, unacquainted with the details, but he hoped that in any Bill regulating the Re gistration in Ireland, an appeal would be given both ways : for at present if the Assist et-Barrister chose to grantthe franchise there was no appeal from his decision, and hence there were many on the registry who had no right to be there. At pre sent the register was regulated only once in eight year, and many who had been p aced on the register in 1832 re mained there yet, although their leases had expired—mans- ieien in this situation had produced their register dated in 1832 at the last Sligo election and had polled against him. He would appeal 1 o the Noble Lord, the Secretary for Foreign Affairs whether he was not cognizant of the fact that certain voters on his estate whose leases had expired by the death of William IV.; had at the last election sworn they were still in possession of their freeholds, and polled against him (Colonel Perceval)? He trusted the Hon. Member would in troduce a clause for getting rid of fictitious votes from the re gister; and he (Colonel Perceval) would follow the example of the Noble Lord opposite, and not oppose his bringing in the Bill. He supported the motion of the lion. Member for Ipswich, be cause he thought a sufficient ground had been made out for the production of those papers.—( Cheers. ) Mr. HAWES would not have taken any part in the d o:ate, but for the remark which bad fallen from the Noble Lord in reply to the Honourable Member for ll's sich. He must take the liberty to bring under the notice of the Noble Lord a representation which he brought under the notice o f the Foreign Office about 15 months ago, with respect to the ap pointment of Consul at Stockholm. He understood that the appointment had been made, but it was afterwards cancAled. It was again pressed on the Foreign Office, but from that time to the present no notice had been taken of the memorial and the place was still vacant. —( Hear, hear, hear ) He must say that the statement made by the Hon. Member for had not been met by the Noble Lord, and unless it was met, more satisfactorily he should give his support to the Hon. Member. Lord PALMERSTON said the Hon. Member misreiresen ted the case when he said the place was still vacant, for there was still an active Consul who had been doing the duties not only to the satisfaction of toe missioon at . Stockholm, but to the satisfaction of all the parties interested in the trade to Stockholm, and no complaints had been made. Mr. HUME said it appeared to him that the Noble Lord either did not or would not understand the object of the motion. —(Cheers.) There was a great charge against the Govern ment of neglecting the commercial interests of Great Britain in that quarter, and he thought the motion of the Hon. Gentle man a just one.—( Cheers ) It rested with the Noble Lord to clearhimself of the charge against him, for it appeared there hid bee.. gross neglect.—( Cheers. ) Mr. P. THOMSON defied any person to point out the time when so much attention, by one-tenth part, had been paid to the commercial interests of this country as within the last few years. It was impossible for more attention to hive been paid to all the subjects in which the commerce of England was concerned, than had been paid by the three gentlemen em ployed at Stockholm, Messrs. Bligh and Bloomfield, and Sir Thomas Cartwright, the present Minister there. 'lf the House supported the Hon. Member in calling for docu ments of this description, the intentions of the Hon. Member himself would be marred. Lord INGESTRE would not have interfered in this matter but for the strong discrepancy between the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman, the President of the Board of Trade and the Noble Lord the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. The Noble Lord had said no mischief to the interests of the country could ensue, and had made out a case for the production of the papers. The Right Honourable Gentleman had stated, their production would be most detrimental to the interests of the country, and how was it possible for him to decide upon what course he should pursue after such conflicting statements. —(Cheers and laughter.) He should, however, vote for the motion of the Hon. Member for Ipsivich.—( Hear, hear.) Lord PALMERSTON explained. Mr. WARBURTON thought the papers ought to be pro duded, for this reason, that the English public might be in formed of the importance of this station.—(Hear, hear.) It was of importance that the closest alliance should be drawn be tween this country and the Governments of Norway and Sic eden, and the people of the two countries ought to have acommon in terest in the commercial prosperity of each. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the question was, how in a matter of internal regulation the object of the Honourable Gentleman could be best attained. Did the House think the establishment of a free port in the Baltic was likely to be promoted by the interference of that House? —(Hear, hear.) Was there a: case of political expediency made out for the production of the papers? An unfair attack had been made on his Noble Friend, and he would appeal to the commercial Members present whether any representation had been made to his Noble Friend asking for the interference of the British Government in regard to the establishment of a free port?—(Hear, hear.) This was a case of direct Quixotism, where the inter position of the Secretary of State had not been re quired, and yet neglect was attributed to him, and this was the first instance' in which a case had been endeavoured to be made out against the Government under such circumstances. Mr. WARD said that if he voted for the motion of the Hon. Gentleman opposite, it would not be upon the speech of the Hon. Gentleman, but upon those who had resisted it.— (Cheers.) There was one fallacy ran throughout the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman ; he meant upon the fact that. British interests were only to be protected by force. Such was not the case. In the case before the House there was no violation of British interests—no neglect of British re monstrances.—(Loud cheers.) We had scarcely any political relations with Sweden, and surely then a diplomatic agent might have attended to the commercial interests of the country. He thought it would be highly expedient that the House should have the papers before them in order to ascertain how far the commercial interests of the county had been protected by the diplomatic agents of England. .Mr. GIBSON rose to reply amidst loud cries of " Question, question." The Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs said the duties of Consul had been ably performed, but they were done by an alien--by a man who was a Swede anti a Swedish merchant. Were those proper hands in which to leave the commercial interests of this country ?—( Hear, hear.) He did not at all mean to depreciate the merits of Mr. Bloomfield, but was it right to lave him in such a forlorn state. In justice to the Noble Lord himself he thought the papers ought to be produced in order to show the truth or fallacy of the rumours that the interests of British commerce had been neglected. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and on a division the numbers were— Lord J. RUSSELL said, although he might not altogether agree with the provisions of the Bill, he should not oppose its introduction. Mr. O'BRIEN said, with regard to the Lord Lieutenant having the power of naming polling places, if that (the Mini sterial) side of the House did not think it right that this clause should stand, he would not insist upon it. What he insisted on was, that the time for taking the poll should abridged to two days in counties and one in cities. Sir R. BATESON regretted that the taking the polls in counties in one day, was not made a substantial part of the Bill. That was the greatest defect in the Irish system. It was the cause of enormous expense, and of every species of demoralization and corruption. The evils under which they laboured were so notorious, that it was almost unnecessary to mention them. In counties, it was necessary to take a great body of electors forty, fifty, or even sixty miles to the place of polling. Suppose an election occurred in the depth of winter, and thousands of people had to be taken over a mountainous country, the expense incurred was enormous, independent of keeping them three or four days in the county town, during which time they might be assailed by the opposite party, and subjected to every species of corruption bribery, and intimi dation. If the poll was taken as in this country, which was a great benefit occasioned by the Reform Bill, the electors might come up in their own neighbourhood and poll, and return home at night. There would be an end of all pretence for the neces sity of treating. It would also do away with the great cause of riot and intimidation, for the result of the election would not be known. It would be the greatest blessin that could be con ferred on Ireland, to assimilate the taking of the poll to that of England. He was therefore distressed to hear the observation of the Hon. Member, that he would not press the most important part of the Bill, if it did not meet with the approbation of certain parties in the House. With regard to the registration, there was no law which needed more revision, and he regretted to find that the Hon. Member wished to keep the really beneficial part of the measure in the background. After .a few words from Mr. H. GRATTAN, leave was given to bring in the Bill. INNKEEPERS. For the motion llB Against it l4O . . . _ IRE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDA Y, MARCII 6, IKI9 consent to make this a measure of police regulating the houses of licensed victuallers as well as beer-houses, he would not oppose the motion. He trusted the Honourable entlentan would amend his motion by making this a measure for the regulation of houses selling beer, wines or spirits by retail when-it would be, in fact, carrying out the recommendations of the Committee of 1833 on this subject, which had been overlooked since that period. On looking at the returns of the convictions which had taken place for the adulteration of beer, he found that 95 per cent. of these con victions were against licensed victuallers, and only 5 per cent. against beer rethilets. Mr. J. S. Thomas, the superin tendant of police, had also stated that in the district of Seven Dials the greater portion of the charges which were brought before him for disorderly conduct, originated from the number of licensed victuallers in that neighbourhood ; now he thought it was unfair to charge all the immorality of the country on the beer houses, and overtook the licensed vie tuallers. if the Honourable Member would not consent to make this a general measure, he should oppose the moti,n.— Hear, hear. ) Mr. PLUMPTRE said that he was afraid his Honourable Friend would not succeed in making the beer houses more respectable by his measure, because it was very easy ti increase the rating of those houses, and thus evade the object his Hon. Friend had in view. This was not as the Honourable Member for Bridport had supposed, a question of the adulteration of beer, but of the adulteration of morals. He feared that they must eventually come to the resolution of prohibiting the sale of beer by retail altogether. After a few words from Mr. P. Howard, Lord Worsley, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Mr. Hume, leave was given to bring in the Bill. IRISH GRAND JURY ACT, Mr. VILLIERS STUART obtained leave to bring in a fill to amend the Irish Grand Jury Act, so far as td authorise the Grand Jury of the county of Waterford to present in aid tif a fever hospital in the county of the city of Waterford. MAYNOOTH COLLEGE. Lord DUNGANNON postponed his motion for a Committee of Inquiry into the state, expenditure, and system of education in the Roman Catholic College of Maynaoth. Mr. BEAMISH obtained leave to bring in a Bill to amend the 6th and 7th Will. 4, int:tuled " An Act to amend the Laws relating to Bankrupts in Ireland." On the motion of Mr. 'WARD, a Return was ordered of the duties levied, and proh;bitions imposed, on British hardware and cutlery, by the tariffs of France, Belgium, Russia, Prussia, Denmark, Sweden, Spain and Portugal, and any change which has taken place in the said tariffs. Captain PECHELL said that he rose on behalf of a very numerous, respectable, and deserving class of society, and he hoped the House would give him leave to bring in a Bill to relieve them from some of their liabilities. The Innkeepers had patiently waited for the interference of the Legislature. The innkeepers of this time were a very different class of persons to what they formerly were, and the same excuse for imposing liabilities on them in former days, did not apply now. Innkeepers were liable to make restitution for the loss of any goods in their House, but it was not fair that they should be liable for the loss of money. In the case of Kent v. Shuckhard, it had been laid down by Lord Tenterden that no distinct ion could be made between money and goods, and that an innkeeper must be considered in the light of a common carrier. He would instance the case of a " respectable Gentleman" who made his appearance at one of the hotels in Brighton, ordered his supper, and went to bed. The next morning he rung his bell, and ordered the servant to brush his cloak. The cloak was brought back to him, he went down to the coffee-room, ordered his breakfast, called for the landlord, and told him that he had lost 801. in his house.—(Hear, and laughter)— that no person had had access to his room but the servant who came up to take his cloak, and that he insisted upon having some compensation. After a great deal of remonstrance, the landlord agreed to give 401. A few years afterwards conscience smote this gentleman.—(Laughter.) He inclosed the sum of 401. to the innkeeper, with compound interest thereon, stating that he had been driven by adverse cir cumstances to do the act—that he had twisted and tormented his imagination, in order to devise the means of raising the wind. —(Laughter.) He would give another instance— a few years after a gentleman, a lady, and their daughter, took up their re sidence at the Old Ship, in Brighton—the following morning after they arrived, the lady and daughter took a walk, as he hoped all Hon. Members would do when they visited that place—they went purchasing throughout the town, as he hoped Honourable Members would also do—(Laughter)—and on their return the lady declared that she had lost 601. out of her ridicule.—(Loud laughter.) The landlord felt himself in a bad mess—(laughter)—the lady said that if she had not lost it in the town she must have lost it in the house —the ridicule was found, but no money in it, and the landlord being sul.d determined that upon this occasion he would resist; the trial came on before Lord Tenterden; and the verdict passed against him for 501. ; a nonsuit was entered, on the ground that money being carried about the per son was not under the care of the landlord. A second trial was had, and the landlord was again defeated ; that was before the Legislature had altered the law with respect to carriers : that law had now been altered, and therefore he came before the House, with a good grace, to ask that the inkeepers should be relieved, because he could not, like a carrier, refuse to receive either a guest or their luggage. All that he wanted was to restrict the liability of the landlord to 10/., unless the guest gave his money or goods into the keeping of the landlord. It was to be recollected that money was an invisible article. --(Loud laughter.) He hoped that the House would allow him to bring in the Bill, so that it should be brought under the notice of the country, and he promised that he would not press the second reading before Easter. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL felt himself bound to op pose the motion of the Hon. and Gallant Captain.—( Cheers. The time of tho House was not well occupied even by the amus ing anecdotes ment ioned b y the Gallant Captain. The danger was so great by collusion between the landlords and their servants that unless the public had the protection of the law as it now stood, they could not with any justice alter it. He could see no difference between invisible money and visible goods—(laughter) —and as he did not feel himself capable of amusing the House so well as the Gallant Officer, he would content himself with opposing the Bill and dividing the House upon it. Mr. DABBY had voted against the Bill of the Hon. and Gallant Member the previous session, but upon that occasion he had said that if the Bill was modified it might have his support. The present Bill of the Hon. Member was a very different one from that of last year, and therefore he thought the taunts which the Hon. and Gallant Member had thrown out against Hon. Members for dividing against him was not justified. He thought no good could arise from the Bill. Ac cording to the law at present, if any person committed perjury, and supported their case by perjury, they recovered, and so the would under the Bill of the lion. Member. He (Mr. Darby) doubted if an innkeeper, when he gave notice that he would not be responsible for 1001., unless placed in his custody, would be liable for such a sum.—( Hear, hear.) As to an innkeeper allowing himself to be frightened by the thr:at of a prosecu tion, to the ps! ing money which had never been brought into his House, that was a kind of intimidation to which any man was now liable, if he chose to submit to it. Mr. M. PHILLIPS said the Hon. and Gallant Member who had brought forward this motion had often distinguished himself by local legislation, and if he would confine the Bill to the town of Brighton he (Mr. Phillips) would not oppose it.— (Hear, hear, and a laugh. ) But, being anxious to protect the commercial interests, with which he was more immediately connected, he must say that he believed this Bill would sap the very foundations of commercial credit ; and that it was much better, both for commercial travellers and also for innkeepers, that the law should remain as it was now. Captain PECHELL rose amidst loud cries of " Question," and said he should divide the House.—( Oh, oh. ) The House then divided and the numbers were— For the motion Against it ......... 156 Majority against the Bill FIRST FRUITS AND TENTHS. On our re-admission to the gallery, we found Mr. BAINES on his legs, stating that the object of the motion of which he had given notice was to provide for the maintenance of the Poor Clergy out of the First Fruits and Tenths of the Church. He had since ascertained that the Noble Lord, the Secretary o f State for the Home Department, Majority against the motion ...... SALE OGRa lloefr 3,0: we EF h Be EXCHEQUER c R On our CHANCELLOR return N c to E L theLfoundi mErc 1. um E.:R presented PHlLLlPS A presenting a petition in favour of the present Beer-law. The sim;lar petitions (we believe) from Southampton and Lancaster e lr fi . ci P al A: te K ra l t N io G ns T i O n N the th p e r n ese r n o t se lat an ys d r s e a g id e , la t t h in a g t t i h n e to the same effect. m s o al vi e of Mr. PARKER presented petitions against the Beer Act. to bring in a Bill which he hoped w ou ld e ff ec t cos s id e b n l benig ra Beer, although he was sensible of the great importance subject, affecting, as it did, alike the morals andthecoinfo of the working classes, he thought that at this late hour of the night (10 o'clock), it would be advisable to do ne more than state the provisions of the Bill. There was a strong feeling in the country against the existing Beer-law. He was aware that many Hon. Members considered that the evils of the pre sent system could not be remedied but by abolishing altogether the consumption of beer upon the premises. This, however, he did not intend to propose—( Hear)—and he did not think that the Bill which had been introduced into the other House by a Noble and .Learned Lord ( Brougham) would be such as would meet his approval.. The great evils now complained of were the number of beer s shops existing in the country, and the disreputable character of many of those houses, and he should endeavour both to limit the number of such houses, and improve their character. He would propose that after a stated time, in order to enable the parties affected by the measure to wind up their affairs, no license should be granted to persons who were not rated to a:certain sum in large towns, and a certain smaller retain rural districts. In addition, he would require a cer ta;n amountof previous occupation of the premises, and that the amount of the license be higher than at present. These were the provisions of his Bill, and although it did not go so far as some Hon. Members might wish, still he thought it was calculated t o pal liate many of the evils complained of. He hoped the at'empt he was now making to correct those evils would receive the support of Parliament. The Hon. Member concluded bg moving for leave to bring in a Bill to alter and amend the laws relating to the sale of beer. Mr. SANFORD `seconded the motion. He thought the Hon. Member had taken a very judicious course, in intro ducing a measure which would receive universal support. As its object was to amend the provisions of the Bill, which had received the support of the Government and the support of many Hon. Members, as a measure of f. ee trade ; and as it had been supported by the Right Hon. Gentleman below, a s a measure of finance, it was likely to be met by c onsidera ble oppo sition in cer t a i n q uar ters. Still, he hoped, that as a very general feeling had been excited throughout the country that the subject would receive the calm and dispassionate considera tion of that House. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, at that late hour of the night, did not feel himself called upon to enter at any considerable length on the subject. The object of the Hon. Gentleman's Bin was to introduce regulations for the sale of beer, and he was not prepared on the present occasion to deny that some regulations were necessary.—( Hear, hear. ) He hoped, however, that these regulations would be general— that they would not be confined to beer-houses, but to all houses licensed for the sale of beer, spirits, or other liquors.__( Hear, hear.) He hoped, in considering the subject, that these regu lations would be applied impartially, and not for the preponder ance of any particular class. He did not think that '.principle was compromised in any degree by giving his assent to the in troduction of the Bill, which he trusted, as the Hon. Gentle man behind him had said, would be calmly and dispassionately discussed, and without any party fee li n g, because he would ven ture to say that no subject ought to be approached with more deliberation, and laying aside all prejudice, than the subject be fore the House. Financial considerations of the greatest im portance:were involved in the question, but he passed then by in order to call the attention of the House to the enmou s private interests engaged in the trade—interests created the other day by the Legislature, after full inquiry, and a long and patient examination of the subject.—( Hear, hear.) He be lieved that not less than forty or fifty thousand persons had been induced to embark their capital, and probably the whole of it, in the trade now brought under their consideration; and if ever there was a case in which it behoved Parliament to pro ceed with caution, it was the case now before them. H e would make no objection to the introduction of the Bill, but he trusted the Hon. Gentleman would see the necessity of maki • ng the measure general. Mr. WARBURTON said that if the Hon. Member would CANADA. Mr. HUNIE moved for copies of all despatches and corre spondence which passed between Sir Francis Head. as Lieute nant-Governor of Upper Canada, and the Colonial Office, and her Majesty's Ministers, during the time he held that office. Mr. LABOUCHERE would not be induced to enter into the details of so important a question which must soon come under the grave consideration of the Flouse. No long period could pass before the whole question of the Government of Canada, and the conduct of Sir F. Head, must engage the seri ous attention of the House. The Government had no objec tion to lay on the table of the House extracts of despatches, but they naturally wished to have the same rule applied to them as was usually applied to other Governments, to lay upon the ta ble of the House those part of the despatches which they thought requisite for the understanding of the questions. In those de. spatches there were many reflections upon not only individuals, but upon the institutions of a friendly nation,'which it would be most improper to he laid upon the table of the . House by com mand of her Majesty. He had no objection to lay such extracts before the House as the Government thought necesssary, and he would move as an amendment on the motion of the Hon. Member, that such extracts be laid on the table of the House. After a few winds from Mr. Hume, Sir G. Grey, and Mr. Buller, the amendment was agreed to. On the motion of Captain PECHELL in the room of Mr. Harvey, returns were ordered of the fees established by the the Judges of Wesrninster Hall. IRISH CLERGY. Lord "MORPETH obtained leave to bring in a Bill to authorise the immediate distribution of the sums voted for the relief of the Irish Clergy. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE QUER, the Transfer of Aids Bill went through Committee. The House then adjourned. THE LONDON PRECURSORS. DINNER TO MR. O'CONNELL. Yesterday evening the Precursors of London gave Mr. O'Connell a dinner at Highbury Barn Tavern, for the purpose of commemorating the establishment of that Society in Lon don. There were between 800 and 900 persons sat down to dinner, and the gallery was literally crammed to suffocation with ladies. Among those who sat down to dinner we no ticed Mr. C. O'Brien, M.P. for Clare ; Mr. F. Bridgman, M.P. for Ennis ; Mr. D. Browne, M.P. for Mayo ; Mr. M. .1. O'Connell, M.P. far county Kerry, Dr. Carpue, Mr. Fitzpatrick, and Mr. M'Kennin, Precursors from Dublin, the Rev. Mr. Magee, and Mr. Kelly. Upon Mr. O'Connell entering the room he was most en• thusiastically cheered, and that cheering was reiterated upon his being unanimously called to preside. After the cloth was withdrawn, Mr. O'Cort NELL rose to propose the health of the Queen. The toast he had now to propose was one which he was sure every one present would anticipate and cordially join in the health of the Sovereign of England.—( Cheers.) That illustrious inslividual stood in a remarkably singular situation—every monarch of her race and family that had filled the British Throne had been rather the chief leader of a party, than the chief magistrate of a great and glorious people.—( Cheers. ) Hitherto the house of Brunswick had been the partisans of one political sect and the oppose' s of another.—( Hear.) Thank Heaven, however, the time had arrived when better prospects appeared in the horizon of Britain.—( Hear, hear.) The Throne of England was now filled by a young and interesting Princess, whose political conduct had hitherto been marked by the most decided and dignified impartiality. She had made no dis tinction of party, sect, or persuashn. She had not considered the limits of her authority hound by the sea that washed the shores of Britain. She had taken a more expanded view, and had looked with sorrow on the sufferings of the wretched peasantry of Ireland.—(Cheers.) He trusted that that Illustrious Princess would be long spared to Britain to enable her to carry out to its full extent. the illustrious course she had begun.- —( Great cheering.) The Hon. and Learned Gentleman concluded by proposing" The Queen, and long life to her." The toast was drank amidst the most enthusiastic cheering. —Air, God save the Queen. Mr. O'CONNELL then rose to propose the next toast, " The People."—( Great cheering.) As an avowed and thorough going Radical he Was proud of any occasion to express his attachment to the people.—(Cheers.) The object of all his political exertion had been the people—that class which included ix the general term the entire of society : every man who had devoted.his honest principles to the good of his country. If there was to be any distinction made between one class of the people and anther, if they were to be divided into Aristocratic and Democratic his choice was fixed—he was for the Demo cratic against the Aristocratic.—( Tremendous cheering.) There might have been periods of society when the spirit of Vandalism and oppression wrs abroad, and when the nation was rather a congregation of robbers than of think ing men, when the Aristocracy was a necessary as an officer was to a regiment of the line ; but, thank God, that state of society had gone by ; the mind of the present generation had spread itself beyond the fetters of feudal authority, and the humbler classes of society were now as high in intellect, and more advanced in cultivation, as the Lords and the mighty men of the present day.—( Great cheering.) He knew of little occasion that there was for them at the pre sent day, unless it was to make bread dear, and to create prejudices among the people of the country. In his opinion the Aristocracy of this country was the most sordid that he had ever witnessed, because he found them surrounding him every day doing all in their power to make Ileac' dear to the children of the widow and the fatherless. He thought that the stand they had made in favour of the existing Corn laws was one of the most disgraceful exhibitions that had taken place by the wealthy classes in opposition to the poorer ones— and it had often struck him that if the present aristocracy of the country could increase the miseries of the poor, not by starving them, hut by roasting them for their Saturday dinner, they would be happy to avail themselves of such pastime.—( Great cheering.) It' ever there was a period when it was necessary for the democratic portion of society to stand together, to combine, and to unite, it was the present—(Cheers)— for what was the state of the population of the country? Why, it was miserable in the extreme. They had the master classes who had votes, and the slave classes who had no votes at all.—(Cheers.) Was is not highly discreditable to the peo ple of England, that such a state of things should exist ? ( Cheers.) Was it not highly discreditable that the pour man should hare no vote, and that the rich man should have one?— (Cheers.) There was no common sense or common law in such a state of things.—(Cheers.) The Judges of the land would tell them that the power of the law was derived from the people at large, to be collected from their Representatives.f— (Cheers. ) According, however, to the present system of re presentation they might as well attempt to obtain electric fire from a broken conducting chain as to attempt to obtain the voice of the people from the present system of representation. —( Great cheering.) He (Mr. O'Connell) was an advocate for Universal Suffrage—( Great cheering)—he was the rational advocate of everything that was useful and beneficial to the people.—(Cheering.) Universal Suffrage was a debt due to the nation at large—(Cheers)—but the Legislature of the country, like all fraudulent debtors, was unwilling to pay the whole of that debt; he had therefore taken as much as they would give, without any species of release for demanding the remainder.—(Great cheering.) That was his practical mode of working—( Tremendous cheering)—because he knew that a man who got ss. from a fraudulent debtor, was far more likely to get the remaining 15s. than if he had received nothing in part payment.—(Cheers.) He thought that every step towards Universal Suffrage enabled them to go on with stronger force and with less resistance to obtain the remainder. —(Cheers.) Upon this point many men differed from him. He was sorry for that, and they must allow him to tell them that they were not quite such practical men as he was.— (Cheers.) In whatever course they might think right to pur sue, he trusted they would meet with success, provided the pub lic good would be secured by it.—((''heers.) He was the decided advocate of the Vote by Ballot.—( Great cheering.) Nay, he would tell them more, for he would fearlessly assert that there was not a single honest man in the community who was not its friend.—( Great cheer ing.) However much the opposer of the Ballot might attend public worship—however much he might turn up his eyes to Heaven and cry out " God be mer c if u l t o me a s i nner " — (Great laughter)—he would declare that man to be a rogue and knave at bottom, if he was not in favour of the Ballot. Why was he for the Ballot ? Why, because if they had it a man's vote would be his own.—( Great cheering.) If they had the Vete by Ballot no man could come to another man's shop and say " You did not vote as I wished you, to send in your account."—( Great cheering.) No man could come to a voter and say " Your son is in my employment, but as you have not voted for me the seiner he leaves it the better."— (Continued cheering.) Nor could any man go to another and say, " Mr. So-and-so employs you, does he not?"—" He does." " Well, he will never pay you another shilling if you don't vote as I want you."—(Great laughter.) If they had the Ballot, everything of that description would be put an end to, and sordid and corrupt bribery would see the light no more. —( Great cheering.) At the last election no less than 3,000,0001. had been expended in bribery.—(Criesof " Hear," and "Shame.") In Norwich, the freemen began by selling themselves to one party, and having got from them 301. or 40/. for a vote, they then went to the other party and sold their votes for 501. or 601.—( Cheers.) Not satisfied with this, they were actually ready to sell themselves to a third party if one had come forward—such was the true character of the honest and independent freemen of Norwich.—( Great cheering.) At the last election there the Duke of Wellington's son and the son of the Lord Chief Baron on the one side, and two what were called popular men on the other, and notwithstanding the freemen were so anxious to obtain money for their votes, there were some of them who had some slight political consciences, for they expressed themselves ready to give a rebate of Is per cent. to the popular party.—(Hear and cheers.) If they had the Ballot, such a system would be at an end, because nobody could tell then how a party voted. He might say the he had voted for a certain party, but then he might also tell a lie—(Great laughter)—and the fellow who would take a bribe in his (Mr. O'Connell's) opinion would feel little hesitation in veering from the truth. If he wanted any individual who more than another deserved the epithet of scoundrel, it would be that man would sell himself soul and body for the sake of money.—(Great cheering.) No man was honest who was not for the Ballot. As the suffrage was increased, EVENING EDITION. the greater was the necessity for the Ballot, because if the Suffrage was extended without the protection of the Ballot, it might. be that the master manufacturer would have the power to turn out all men in his employ if they did not vote according to his wishes.—( Great cheering.) A great cotton Lord, if they had not the Ballot but had Universal Suffrage, might carry a whole battalion of his men, and make them vote as he pleased.—( Great cheering.) As the Suffrage, therefore, was . increased, the necessity of the Vote by Ballot was increased also. To make the people free from Lad passions, and tomake them honest the Ballot was absolutely necessary. The obtaining of that great object was not to be effected by violence and exaggeration—it was not to be effected by torch-light meetings, by which honest men were prevented from jsining together, and rendering themselves stronger than the knaves of society.—(Great cheering.) That great object was only to be accomplished by legal, peace able, but determined union.—(Continued cheering.) He was also decidedly in favour of the shortening of the dura tion of Parliaments. The people required it. It was an old proverb, that "short reckonings _made long friends."—( Great cheering.) It was astonishing how quickly a servant went upon any message when he knew that he should be turned away the next day if he loitered on the road.—(Cheers.) So with respect to Members of Parliament. When they knew that at abort periods they would be compelled to give an account of their proceedings to their constituents, they would be much more likely to do their duty properly, for his own part he preferred three years for the duration of Parliament, but if he got the Vote by Ballot and an increase of the Suffrage, he would willingly toss up whether it should be one, two, or three vears.—( Great laughter.) He sincerely regretted that any di sse nsions had sprung up am on g Reformers—(Cheers) —the Tortes rejoiced in it, and small blame to them—( Great laughter)—because they knew that in the weakness of the Re formers was their strength. —( Cheers. ) The Whigs rejoiceel at it and small blame to them—(Continued laughter)—for they wished to go BO further.—(Cries of You must push them.") Lie (Mr. O'Connell) thought that the people would push themselves.—(Cheers.) The common sense of the people was increasing day by day. Where there wore fifty woo were able to read years ago, there were hundreds now—the publica tions of the day, although he *as sorry to say there were many of them bad enough, were read by almost every individual.—( Hear, hear.) Knowledge was increasing, although the Whigs were for remaining where they were, and the people were fast bearing away to the port of intelli gence and national freedom. —( Cheers. ) The prospects of England, however, were far superior to those of Ireland ; the people of that unhappy country were their brothers .and their friends, and they were desirous of participating in the privi leges which England already possessed.—( Great cheering.) The stiffrage was bad enough in England, but it was ten thou sand times worse in Ireland.—(Cheers.) Would it be be lieved that in one of the smallest counties in England there were actually more voters than there were in the county o f M a ya , wjtich had ap ) opulation of 366,000 per- The Tories wou'el take sons.—(Cries of " Shame, shah.. ' -eesseal, and the Whigs away the little which Ireland already pee- -., Hea ling to the refuse to give them more. He had been es,. eof the English people, and but fur the unfortunate circumstame. course adopted by the Chartists, who talked of torches ant. daggers, he would have combined the feelings of England with those of the people of Ireland. That would have been a Ur.i3n, not of master and slave, but a Union of brother hood.—(Great cheering.) The people of Ireland would then have stood on the same level as the people of England.—( Great cheering.) That feeling would have been universal, if it had not been checked and kept down by those miserable feuds that had been raised by certain parties. He trusted they would par don him if he was bitter against the man who had produced such lamentable effects—( Great cheering)—because he could not ob tain the whole that he wanted. Time was necessary to obtain the great objects they had in view. The master oak, which formed the great bulwarks of England, was not created in an hour—it grew up, year after year, and century after century, until at last it topped the forest, and became a shelter and a shade to its inhabitants.—(Great cheering.) The ephemeral bubbles that swelled up the waters evaporated—the develop ments of nature were gradual: so with respect to man—to be useful he must be cautious, and think before he acted. He would therefore say, take what they could get—but still look on • for more—but look on quietly and at last they would obtain all which they desired, without intimidation or threatening.—(Cheers.) As the clock went on from hour to hour, until the fixed time came, so would the political machine, if it were only propelled by skilful hands and honest hearts.—( Tremendous cheering.) Until the period of the consummation of liberty arrived, he was there among them speaking for the people, and one of the Precursors.—(Tre• mendous cheering.) Precursor to what ? To a com bination with England—to a union with England upon the basis of identification of rights and privileges.—( Great cheering.) That was his present object—he had made one effort during the present session, in making that effort he had been met by the Whigs with a whining " No"—, (Laughter)—and by the Tories with a ferocious refusal.— ( Great cheering.) They had put forth one of the rabid dogs of Oraugeism, Serjeant Jackson—(Continued cheering) so that between them both no hopes or expectations had been held out to him, but it was his determination to try them again.--( Great cheering.) He would give them the benefit of Lent to see whether they would repent.--( Great laughter.) They were mighty saints with respect to Lent—but they were saints within the smallest circle—the circle of West minster.—(Laughter.) They were deuced saints these—( In creased laughter)—so much so that if any person went to a play in Westminster he was called a black sheep---(Great laughter) —but only let them step out of the magic circle of the city of Westminster, and then any man might laugh at a play as long as he pleased.—(Great laughter.) That was a species of piety which he (Mr. O'C.) liked, because it was a piety that respected parochial districts—according to that piety a man on this side the line must spend his Wednesdays and Fri days in the dumps—( Great laughter)—while on the other side of the line a man might take his wife and his daughters to laugh at a play as long as he pleased. He (Mr. O'C.) could not but admire such respect for Lent, and he should therefore wait patiently until Low Sunday arrived; but the very next day, both the Whigs and the Tories might depend upon it that he should be at them again. He would tell them frankly that he was determined. The people of Ireland had long con fided in him. He was a rare instance of a man whocor 35 years had preserved his popularity and who had increased instead of diminished it.—( Cheers.) He had not preserved that popu larity by courting the opinions of the many, and yielding up his own judgment to them. He believed that the opposition he had given to sentiments when he thought they were not right, had contributed more to his popularity than giving his assent to propositions when he knew them to be right. It was base to court popularity by adopting measures that were against a man's co, n judgment.—(Che e•s. ) The people of Ireland believed him to be honest—they knew that he had been nseful.—( Great cheering.) What then was his sacred :duty to that people? He found that they were basely denied an equality in the rights which tae English people pos sessed—they felt that they were unjustly prevented from having the same franchises which the English peo ple had. It was his greatest wish to improve the condition of the people of England, but, he was also desirous that Ireland should be placed on the same footing with them. The Tories and the Whigs had refused him this—nay, some of the Radicals even refused it. In the majority that refused the claims of Ireland were some from whom a different course might have been expected—he alluded to the son of the Duke of Norfolk, and the grandson of that Noble Duke, Mr. Philip Howard, the Member for Carlisle. Where, he would ask, would they have beers but for the people of Ireland ?—( Great cheering. ) He would not in their absence make use of harsh terms—but he felt bound to say that it was ingratitude unworthy of the house of Norfolk.—(Tre mendous cheering)—it was an ingratitude which the meanest peasant of Ireland would have been ashamed of. One of the Radicals who had joined in that vote was Mr. Parrot, the Member for Devonshire.—(Cries of " Shame," and " Wakley was one.") Ne Wakley would rather have died than joined them.—( Hear, hear, and tremendous cheering.) He felt proud of the multitudinous assemblage that he saw now around him—he had come there for the purpose of making his public confession, and he saw near him hie Father Confessor.—(Laughter.) But one essential ingredient without confession was wanting, and that was repentance, for he could not repent of the exertions he had made for, the good of the 7,000,000 of the Irish people.—(Great cheering.) The Irish people would not submit to the injustice under which they had laboured; and this he would venture to say, that if the grievances of the Irish people were not redressed, they would redress them themselves—( Great cheering)—and every honest man in England would help them in obtaining that redress. He had made every effort in his power to obtain redress through and by England, and he would resort to the restoration of the Irish Parliament by a Repeal of the Union only becalse he could not s ccecd with out it.—( Tremendous cheering.) There were many that supposed he could not obtain the Repeal. To such he would whisper what had been done in 1825 when he came to this country as a delegate, and when he was told by Lord Liverpool that emancipation was impossible.—(Cheers.) Why, barely four years had elapsed before Sir Robert Peel and the Duke of Wellington became submissive to the Irish people, and granted them emancipation, because they found they could not continue to resist it.— (Cheers.) Since the last Parliamentary campaign he had tra velled upwards of 1,500 miles in differentparts of Ireland, and everywhere he was met by the eternal cry of " Why don't you give up everything else, and think of a repeal of the Union ?"—( Great cheering.) From this moment he thought of repeal—(increased cheering)—and he found that if the British Parliament would not do justice to Ireland, Ireland would do justice to herself by demanding a repeal of the Union.—( Most tremendous cheering.) Within the present week a measure had been brougl.t forward by the Government for the purpose of making railways in Ire land; the expenses of those undertakings were too great for the people of that country, they had only one Railway in Ireland of the enormous length of about six and a half miles. It was said that that was finished by private speculations. Such was not the case, because the Government had lent up wards of 80,0001. for its completion. That was the only railway in Ireland, and he would appeal to every man of common sense whether Ireland, with its great resources, ought not to have an extended species of communication? That communica tion could not be adopted without Government taking up the matter—all that was asked was that a public „el ant should be made for the extension of railways in Ireland, but that was objected to. His (Mr. O'Connell's) opinion was that Government ought to be the projectors of all rail ways, because in the hands of private individuals they were mo nopolies.—(Cheers.) They went when they pleased—they stopped when they pleased, and they chaeged what they pleased. —(Cheers.) But it was said, why did they want money from England? He would tell them—it was because the Legisla ture of this country had destroyed the credit of Leland, by mixing up her national debt with its own.—(Cheers. ) Should such a state of things continue ? Was Ireland to be denied the rights to which she was justly entitled. No, and if injustice was extended to her much longer lie would raise his voice, and that in no measured terms, for the repeal of the Union.—(Great cheering.) He was glad of the present opportunity of stating what his opinions were on these subjects, and he was glad that the usual sources of in formation were present, in order that ,his sentiments might be known on these subjectst. Ireland must and should enjoy the same privileges as England, and he thought to effect that object he was entitled to the support both of the English and the Scotch. It was through Ireland that England and Scot land had obtained Parliamentary Reform. It was through the people of Ireland that they had obtained Corporate Reform. The Irish Members had never been found to shrink from supporting any measure which they thought would effect good to the people of England.—( Cheers. ) He thought that • he was, therefore, entitled to the support of cevery honest-minded Englishman and Scotchman.—( Loud heering.) He had beseeched humbly for his country, but he had been treated with scorn, and if he was subjected to such treatment much longer, he was determined that Ireland should right herself.—(Tremendous cheering.) What injury, he would ask, would it do to England if Ireland had a Parliament of her own? bone whatever. Ireland would then be more prosperous, and the people of that country would be better customers to England. When the Irish Parliament declared its independence what was the state of things? Why the Dutch and French vessels sent down the channel with a broom at their masts, sweeping all before them, and such was the state of the British Navy at that time, that it did not dare to interfere to prevent them. What was the first act of the Irish Parliament after it had declared its drfl i ne n aes d gsy e tpo p hfu e a n rnEs d un3 e ego n di c ao o e tnh ? doe v N ,rra V iess h nha y egmh , aeig t nn o e tev were ei o aur t nme e dpa SO ithna i t O r o :_rs : for the purpose of manning the British fleet, and within a very short Port smouth, oour et has andat c cheering.) space of e o t rh f e t n i time, no l England sea enabled, by the exertion of Irielinien, to conclude a war of disaster and obtain a triumphant peace.---(Great cheering.) Let the people of England and Ireland only be unit , and they would be sure to succeed in obtaining justice from boll.' countries. He was not one who wished to endanger proper:: - . because there was no country in the world that cos: endure a civil war less than England. Why did he s so? Because three or four thousand °fits inhabitants depend. for their subsistence on weekly wages. What would hewn of them , f their provisions were stopped? What would be 11 effect of stopping the factories? Why millions would be left starve. It was, therefore, absurd to talk of physical force whet society was so artificial as in England. The friends of rei liberty were the enemies of disorder, and they were driveller who supposed that they could rat down pacific and determine'• men, by talking of torch-light and daggers. The triumph cf mind over matter was extending—and the day vr not far distant when he hoped to see the dearest objects he ha in view, viz., the good of Ireland perfectly realized.—( Here th Hon. and Learned Gentleman sat down amidst tremenou cheering.) HYDE returned thanks. The healths of the Duke of Sussex and the Duchess of Kew were then drunk amidst cheers, together with those of ih' other members of the Royal Family in England. Mr. FITZGERALD then proposed the health of Mr. O'Con• nell, the Father of Precursors, and the Liberator of Ireland, He hoped that he would live long to see his best wishes realin d and that when he was summoned hence he might change hi present age for the greenness of immortal youth. Mr. O'CONNELL, in returning thanks, deprecated the union of Church and State, as being inconsistent with the Irtt interests of the people.—(Cheers ) The Hon. Gentlemln then went on to animadvert upon the course pursued by the Times newspaper, in the course of which he alluded to some of tip conductors of that establishment in terms which we abstain roe mentioning. He concluded by expressing his thanks for th honour that had been conferred upon him. " Lord Fortescue and the Friends of Ireland." Mr. MAGUIRE re7urned thanks. He was appointed to returi that:Ks for the toast because he was known to Le an arden. Irishman. There is no greater balm to be applied to the wounded feelings of Ireland on the departure of Lord Nor manby, than sending to replace that Nobleman, Lord Fortes cue—for next to Mr. O'Connell no man had ever done so noel for Ireland as Lord Normanby.—(Loud cheers.) Any en' that doub's the immensity of good which he has done, let hin. look to the affectionate regrets of a people who are ever olive to anything in the shape of jzstiee.— ( Loud cheers.) Let Lord Fortescue only go forth in the same pa th —le him only proceed in that calm and impartial court which his predecessor had already plainly marked 6 0 for him—(Hear, hear)—let him take care to keep from flies" who ever made it their study to retard the approach of anythinl like happiness—( Hear)—for, after all, those people are 110 English or Scotch, they are the spurious offspring of her ( wt soil; for is it not true that the richest soil produces the rnekes poison? - It was this soil of Ireland that produced such iv o as Char'eville, as Oxmantown, and as Sergeant Jackson—( Hear hear)—that Sergeont Jackson whom he (the speaker) wit' nessed the other night giving vent to his hate to the countri calling to the Speaker to tell him that Mr. O'Connell "'a grinning at him.—(Hear, and cheers.) Yes, this faction hat Lord Fortescue in anticipation, because they know that he tiwtl in the same line of conduct which Lord Normanby had done oarn the hate of the faction and he was sure to sue -iness to the country.—( Hear, and cheers. ) '-eland as she ought to be," wldel Let him buy ce - ed in giving hftl'e. The next toast was l• was received with great applaus.. Vote After which the toast of " Eatens. °° of the Suffrage, d in the mea' by Ballot, and Short Parliaments" was re,:r ive : rapturous manner. any dif- Mr. Hoc AN spoke to this toast. He wMs as sorry . the ference should exist between the Chartists of England ant.eon., people of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) If the e differences a" be healed, and they .could be br ou g ht to act under' "• great leader of the Precursors , Eng l a nd au g ht, in jostle?. to assist in obtaining those rights for Ireland to which contributed her power to cheat them of at the Union • Pt, at the passing of the Reform Bill. He did not care for aia . Convention but the convention of the mi nd, and that should exerted to obtain for themselves Universa l Suffrage.—( Hear. and cheers.) These were the opinions in which he hoped tha . all here would join h im.—( Hear, and cheering.) He %ca:. Chartist.—(Partial hissing.) He did no t care for their sneak( ing hisses. He was a Chartist in the t:uest sense of word ; but he must say that he did not join: the plan raj commended to work out the object of the Chartists.' — ai r " L r 'i Mr. O'CONNELL said he was happy that but a neu ' e, toast remained alter the one which he was al )° , to give. It was the health of the Liberal Membe' 4 17 Parliament, four of whom honoured them this night with the' . presence.—(Hear.) Namely, Mr. O'Brien, of Clare; Browne of Mayo; Mr. Morgan John O'Connell, of Kerry, " J !` i Mr. Bridgman, of Ennis. Like Sir Peter Laurie , when he sat that Irish potatoes could speak for themselves, he left these gee tlemen to do the same thing, but he could not in those natne• have that of Lord Brougham, who although half his We r Liberal, had lately not given n.uch token of his desire to con tinue in the same way. The health of those gentleman given with much satisfaction. Mt. DILLON BROWN, M.P., felt much gratified in hairier his name coupled in the honours of the evening. Not from an), honour that accrued to himself, but because he saw English an"' Scotch men unitedin endeavouring to obtain justice for Ireland' This he again said, was more honourable because it came fon? the middle classes—those classes who ever bad done wh at n's most conducive to the cause of liberty.—( Hear, hear.) If le! to the depraved aristocracy of the country, little would be eb" tained to ameliorate the condition of the oppressed.—( hear.) Every man should do his best in his own sphere to pi,*° , mote the cause for which they assembled.—( Hear, hear.) I represented 400,000 persons, who every one were determined tv join in seeking to obtain that freedom for which they all con e tended. He did not care for the repeal of the Corn-laws, ° for the reduction of the Irish Church Establishment, nate' these measures were accompanied by a reform of those eisad-ll ments, which set bounds to the rights ot the people in mal‘n .l7 those laws by which they were to be governed. He was a' advocate for Universal Suffrage—he was an advocate f°' the Charter in all its principles, but he was not f° the adoption of those means which the Chartists think is neees sary to obtain those principles.—(Hear, hear, and c heers. The Tories want to govern the country for the benefit of the `es' The Whigs think to govern the country by pretending to gover' for the benefit of the many.—(Hear, hear.) Both hs' little commiseration with them. Universal Suffrage the only remedy to be applied for all the evils those factions entailed on the country—( Hear, hear.) 13 He was for Vote by Ballot, the arguments in favour of which would not at this late hour detail to them.—( Hear and No' He was for a total abolition of tithes : in testimony )of win e he only recurred to the votes of last Session.—( Dear, hear . ' Pursue the course whica these measures had always marked ot for them ; this country could not afford a revolution. It wac moral force alone could be obtained any thing that could `• desired to make yaurselves'happy. France was example cner',! for them in the way of revolution •by physical force. result of that revolution has been to scat on the throne of country the most despotic tyrant that ever Europe prodwe' He besought them to lay aside all those thoughts which nail in any manner contribute to upheld the means by which Chartists sought to work out their objects.—( Hear and c heers Mr. Morgan John O'Connell, Mr. O'Brien, and Mr. Bri t! ' man also spoke to this toast in neat and appropriate speedo,' the latter gentleman declaring that he was always a supitor r ot the principles of the People's Charter. Mr. O'CONNELL next gave the " Health of t ', Treasurer and Stewards." In all his experience•--a" all would allow that he had much in the way of dinner agitatie. as well as other agitation—he never beheld the duties of Stew''' . so well performed.—( Hear, and cheers.) He never beheld much order where the numbers were so great. It was almos t is possible to exaress the gratification that was due to their coati' The regularity of the vast assembly was proof of the wis' lt : of selecting them as stewards, for as their hearts were iw ' right plac 1, so were their heads filled with prudence.--( 11e ' and cheers.) We have all men to testify our willingness anxiety to promote the interests of the common cousi') ( Hear, hear, hear.) The interest of that green island sch,' they and he had loved so well and so leng—( Loud cheeri n g ).- yes, that land was the first dream of my boyhood, a shall be surely the last earthly feeling that will cling to me when about to depart from this world.—( Hear , cheers.) He had travelled through her verdant he had traversed through her most remote and lit' riant valleys—he had explored the summit of her mountains. And will any one be found to say that thi s F, 4 ' 51 . rious country will still be enslaved ? —( Hear, hear.) Sh e c ', i r not, she will not, she shall not be—( The remainder of sentence was lost in the deafening shouts of arplause `a: l , " 11 : the meeting sent forth.) What has the aristocracy ever „ai: for that country ?—what are they now doing for it? , want to persuade the people here that the repeal of the u a lr laws would reduce wages. Has not Ireland the full Wen t : , the Corn-laws ? Have her labourers high wages ?—( ilea r '•j L ' cheers.) No, they have not; her hardy peasantry . are from morn to night at sixpence per day, or, in In a n i ; language, at one halfpenny per hour.—( Hear, b e ; , What was all this to be attributed to if not to bad as . ° l-j ment, the effect of which is seen by all enlightened states inc : , Lord Durham has said that in America there is an inlag il ' t ;:: line drawn between Canada and the United States—a line t, is more known than traced out. On the left hand side of . line is the property of the United States, and on the 01,5 hand side is situated the property of the British Coll' f.,1 When a hundred acres of the land on the righ, t ,: o 2 :s side is put up to be sold, it will bring but one hundr..d sh while that over the left will bring one thousand poan a, tO (Hear.) Was not this dreadful depreciation in price i le i s tributed to a bad system of government ?—( Hear. ) nYi e sl, that the people a Ireland are poor, unless from the of bad government —( Cries •of " Hear, hear," and ell e f r - o. They had in their country all the means of acq;. l o . prosperity. He knew in his own neighbourhood on e g stream which had power and situation to turn machinery': 0 to 56 of the largest steam-mills in this country. — ( s (is' Cheers.) He was happy to say that the indication o f o at day's meeting promised much for the future. Let despair.—( Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") if toe' o r. they would be like those three glee singers, Feargus 0l „• •Mr. Stephens and Oastler.—(Laughter and cheers.) t he! they were glee singers of the most incongruous description -',/,s; went in the most opposite directions to create harnal,Coa' could be imagined.-- ( Hear, and laughter. ) Feargus ben s ' slur sung ~P atrick's Day," with variations ; Rev.Mr. Ste r c Tori the Poor-law Melody ; and Oastler sung the Triumph whicli ism.—( Laughter.) 'I heir means of advocating the cau se / Vest . ' they took up would not be adopted by even childre n-- io nt• hear)—and he was perfectly convinced that before s ens e had elapsed, those persons who laid claim to cellan ta- thein among the Chartists would find out the way of deserting to ler' —( Hear, hear, and cheers.) it was the duty of a ll „ o be se their aid, by every peaceable and Constitutional mesas: Nation' forward the car of the British Constitution into its pro P er s , e t det), —( Hear, and great cheering.) Willing as he was to stay' ) t0 called him to another place.—( Hear.) He must. go (1 00 0 dos 1 1( what was going on in the Maynooth question. He m ust g . , 0 , 5 c' to witness an Irish row—( Hear and laughter)—in the oorts Commons. It he was as sure that the Members of that ,i ) ota were as reasonable, and as willing to hear truth as those tio l a se , he addressed, he would not fear for the result of any ilu e 'ba 0. • would introduce. 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