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order to ascertain how far the testimony laid be fore them was entitled to credit. If they had been so applied to, they would have given it en tire contradiction. The lion. Member then pro dnced and read several 'extracts of letters from the Bishop of Pesaro, 'Cardinal Alveri, and others, who wrote in approving terms of that part of her Majesty's conduct, of which they had been eye-witnesses - . 'He also read an extract from an Austrian paper, denying that she• had been black-balled - at - the.CasSIOO: 7 Bergarni was a person entitled, both by birth and manners, to any honours which he might be fortunate-enough to have conferred upon him. In foreign coun tries it was not the practice to ask, as in England, who a man had been, but ,what he then was.— He remembered when at Berlin, seeing the pre sent King of Sweden recognike an individual who had been a.servant at the same time be was, be . - fore his exaltation, in a manlier which reflected honour upon his Royal station. And against whom, he .would ask, - had the proseCutiou been commenced ? It was against the Queen Consort of the present Sovereign. Was there any person who had drank deeper of the cup of affliction than her Majesty ? Even the witnesses against her had admitted her benevolence and good qua lities ; her humanity had been most conspicuous ; she had braved dangers, at the prospect of which humap nature had sickened. When her meanest attendant was confined by the plague, she had endeavoured to - preserve his life at the risk of her own. He knew she had been accused of lending the sanction of her name to publications in which might be found many offensive passages ; but Gentlemen should recollect her peculiar situation. Assailed as she had been at all points, it had been in her power to wield the weapon of recrimination, and thus plunge the country into discussion. But the Hon. Member for Oxford had said, "- Will you leave Adultery and Treason triumphant ?" 'low vain was such an interrogaliVe. argument. Had not his Majesty's Ministers offered. her an income which would have secured her the means of continuing the practices with which they had charged her? He was one of those who joined in the prayer of peace which was so widely utter ed out of doors. He was this night called upon to support. a vote of censure upon his Majesty's Ministers ; but he declared to God he should have felt greater pleasure in being enabled con scientiously to give them his support. Even now he believed retraction would do them honour; but it appeared they were determined to keep this important question alive. If so, it was per fectly idle to talk of sedition and anarchy. In Support of both the disaffected out of doors were perfect insects compared with his Majesty's Mi nisters; for their conduct had threatened the country with revolution. The lion. Gentleman (the Member for Corfe Castle) had stated his surprise that a wise and enlightened people iike those of this country should 'adopt the course which they had. lie (Sir R.) admitted that the people of England were wise and enlightened ; but it was not to the Hon. Gentleman that they owed either their wisdom or their light. They were wise, because they knew that no-act of in justice, no wrong whatever could be done even to the meanest subject without injury to. the whole community. The Hon. Member for Ox ford had said that the people were fantastic ; but he (Sir R.) sincerely believed that 99 out of every 100 were true to their principles, until they were abandoned by their leaders. Before he sat down, he should offer a very few remarks upon minor topics. The gallant General then proceed e d to make a few g enera l o b serva ti ons upon.the Cause of Reform, and sat down, declaring that, strongly as he advocated that cause, he should be willing to retire from public life the, moment he should be satisfied that his doing so would promote the general happiness. Mr. HusisissoN stated, that he felt himself compelled, after what he feared was a tong Par liamentary life, to offer himself to the notice of the House. Upon ordinary occasions he - felt dis posed rather to defer to the opinions of others, than to offer his own ; but, on the present important oc! casion, he was induced to claim their indulgence, however incompetent lie felt himself to support that claim. - Before he would touch upon the direct question before the house, he would very shortly address himself to a remark which had fallen from the Honourable and Learned Mem ber for Kuiresborough, (Sir J. Mackintosh.) — That Hon. and Learned Gentleman had put an erroneous construction upon an obseriation froth his Honourable Friend (Mr. Bankes) ; and in that erroneous construction he had been follow ed . by the gallant General, who shad just sat down. lie (Mr. H.) had neve r understood his lion. Friend. to condemn the measures of his Majesty's Ministers. He had said merely that he was not satisfied with those measures.— (Cheers from the Opposition Benches.)—lle un derstood those cheers; but what followed that observation of his- _Honourable Friend ? Why, " that if the circumstances which had given rise to those measures were to occur again, he did not know but that his Majesty's Ministers ought to take the same measures again."—(Cheers from the Ministerial Benches.)—And it was from this observation of his lion. Friend thk those .lion. Members desired his Honourable Friend, in consistency, to vote for the present motion.— This indeed would be an exemplification of that sort of consistency which was so Common on the Other side of the. House. Addressing himself to the question immediately before the house, Mr. fluskisson observed he was compelled, previously had carried on this diabolical traffic on the Gold and Guinea Coast (the coast North of the Line) to an extent, and with an inhumanity, not surpassed at any former time. He was not inclined to listen indiscriminately to the charges against the French Government on the subject of the Slave Trade, as he was sensible that the French Ambassador in this country was friendly to the abolition, and be lieved that many individuals high in office at the Court of France were ignorant of the misconduct of subordinate agents. The Hon. Gent. concluded by moving for copies of all the correspondence between this country and France, Spain, Portugal, and Holland, relative to the manner in Which the Treaties for the Abolition of the .Slave Trade had been carried into effect; also for .copies of all letters addressed to the Board of Admiralty from the Captains of Ships appointed to cruize off the coast of Africa to prevent, the illicit traffic In Slaves, and for various other documents con nected with the subject. He also stated it as his epinion, that the emoluments of those engaged in the so ppression of the illicit traffic in Slaves should be increased in order to compensate for the risk that was unavoidably incurred. - Mr. WILBERFORCE seconded the motion and expressed his . 'entire concurrence y in what had fallen from his Hon. Friend. Lord CA - STLEREAGII said, that it was the anxious wish of Government to carry into com plete effeCt the humane designs of the aboli tionists. No .effort had been wanting to secure the. assistance. of the European Powers for that ohject. He was happy to see the Parliament take up the subject; their vigilance was the best remedy for the negligence of Government in those matters, which did not fall so often or so pressingly upon their observation, or which were of difficult execution, on account of the terms of intercourse with which they stood with foreign Powers. Ile could assure the House that he was most anxious to explain the conduct of , Government on this subject. There were great difficulties, of which the House was not fully aware, in the way of fulfilment of its views on this question ; those difficulties would now be put in due course for explanation—what was wrong would be deliberately considered, and the Government and the House would then be a ble,to direct the common effort with much bet. ter hope of success to the attainment of the coin. mon good. The papers, together with various others con nected with the same subject, were then ordered Mr. W. SMITH moved for an account of Ex. tents in Aid issued and executed in the last year Ordered. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for receiving the Report of the Committee of Supply. Mr. CREEVEY would not oppose the bringing up the Report, because he had given notice of a motion for the production of the Estimates for the 1,900,0001. which were to be voted. Mr. liumE wished to know, if there was any diminution in the item of wear and tear ? It was extraordinary that the sum proposed was the same as during the war. • Sir B:MARTIN said, that the wages were the same, and the repairs nearly the same as in war. After a few words from the CHANCELLOR of the ENCHEQUER, the Report was brought up. Mr. lirmc.wished to ask, having heard that there. WAS to be tt co►»iderable reduction of the - wages of the working men in the Dock-yank, if there, was to be a corresponding reduction made in the salaries of the officers Sir B. MARTEN said, there would be no reduc tion in the prices of labour; but the men were to be confined to a- smaller space of tune to work in. IVIr. - IIuNtE thought this was any thing but eco.- 210Rly. • The Report was read, and the resolutions of the Committee adopted by the House. coNDucT OF MINISTERS.—(Rrcumro DEBATE.) Sir R. WlLsos rose a'nd assured the House that he regretted exceedingly having -to occupy its time at so early a period of the debate, but which had become necessary owing to his being in the possession of information which he wished, to_ communicate. I f he recollected what the Right Hon. President of the Board 'of Con trol had said, he' did not attempt to justify the Government in every part of the proceedings against her M a j es ty, b u t ra th er ca ll e d upon the forgiveness of the HOuse, for errors which could neither be' foreseen nor prevented, as arising out of the peculiar nature of the case. -The 'Eon. Member for Corfe Castle had condemned the proceedings in• the - beginning, the middle, and yet, with his usual impartiality, he had de-. termined to vote for the -acquittal of the ac cused. -It was his • object to show that his Ma jesty's Ministers had committed great errors ; and whether they were errors of incapacity or errors of ignorance, they ought to be visited_ with the same penalties as if they were' real' offences. For, those who undertook such si tuations must' take with them all their respon sibilities. He _objected to a Bill of Pains, and Penalties, and knew of but one- case 'in which it ought to have received the sanction of the Legislature. He never did accuse . Ministers of being originally parties to any conspiracy against her Majesty ; he never had imputed it to them, because he believed thern totally innocent of such a charge. There *as one thing however connected with the establishment of the Milan Commission, which, as men, they were.'bound to explain. That was—the time at which it was instituted.—(lfear, 'hear from Lord. Castle reagh.)—The time was, the very moment of the Princess Charlotte's death ; a time of a notoriotF ly suspicious nature. Neither was he disposed to make his Majesty's. Ministers responsible for the subsequent acts of 'the Commission. It was not altogether . to be required from them that they should enter into 'any nice discrimination with regard.to the evidence ;' for having employ ed individuals whom they considered to be Gen tlemen, they were hound to give them their con fidence to a certain .extent. But when the de positions came under the inspection of the Privy Council, they ought to have ascertained how far the .respectability of the deponents could be depended upon. He contended that the Italian .Nobility who. lived near her Majesty, ought to have been applied to by !Ministers ? in to. entering - upon that question, to low% very slightly upon those topics which, though irrele vant in themselves to the motion, had been brought into discussion upon it. Those who.diSapproved of the late war,•he conceived, were not likely to approVe of the peace which followed it. It was a war undertaken upon the soundest principles. and crowned with the most glOrious success ; and it had made a deep impression upon foreign na tions of, time vigour and prowess of our fleets and armies. The progress of that war had shoWn thatwhile this country was unshaken in its, forti tude, and was proudly struggling for its own in dependence, it was not backward in affording its strength and treasure in establishing that of -- others.-Cheers.) Upon that subject,however, he should not enlarge ;" though he thought it not altogether fair to visit the last proceeding upon those who had concluded the peace of 1814. (Hear, hear !)-- - Much eloquence had- been ex hausted to chew that all the late Bills had proved nugatory. Good God ! They bad sat night after night in anxious and exhausting debate upon the. subject of those Bills ; and now they were told that their proceedings were nugatory. They had been told that those Bills 'would destroy the right of petitioning; and that that Honse would permit no means of being informed of the state of public opicioif. If this were correct, why were all the late County Meetings referred to as, ,so many triumphant expressions of that opinion At those very Meetings, and particularly at .a late northern' Meeting attended by the Hon. Member for Durharri<Mr. Lambton), it had been declared that those. Bills were intolerable ; so that in one place it was urged that the - Bills in question were an intolerablegrievance, and in ano ther, that they were ineffective and 'nugatory. In deed, the House was assured that there had neyey been a time when public Opinion was so strongly expressed as the present. This was. another in stance of the consistency he had noticed before. For his own part, he firmly believed that it.was to those bills the country was indebted for its security in those districts which • had been previously disturbed. He would shortly refer to another subject upon which the Gentleman op posite had so eloquently de - claimed. Gentlemen had talked of the present acrimonious irritation ' which was so generally throughout the country, and of their wishes to -allay that irritation. He joined in their wish, but .he differed with them upon the means. They had talked of a foul:con spiracy, and of aGreen Bag conspiracy, and they said that Ministers had done that which their own better judgment condemned. These Gen tlemeh had not accused the Ministers directly, but they had by inference described them as men of a fiend-like character, whon - ino men 61 honour could - support. They wished the Ministers to make no defence, but if they did not defend themselves they would indeed be unworthy of support. The Ministers did not ion the present occasion make any charges, they were defeiling themselvec against an attempted Vote of censure, and he (Mr. littskisson) contended that they were perfectly correct in advising the Crown ; under all the circumstances, - to exclude her Ma jesty's - name from the- Liturgy, seeing that its in-' sertion was a matter of grace and favour. Re - . ferring to .the proceedings of the Upper House, he (Mr. Huskisson) observed, that he did not rely upon the divisions in that House- for the pur pose of deciding either upon the legality of the Bill of Pains and Penalties, - or upon the question whether the preamble of that Bill had or had not been established. , But he referred to them to sheiv that. Ministers bbd not brought charges against her Majesty lightly or unad . - visedly.—(Cheers.)—lle might admit that the result of those proceedirts was her Majestrs technical acquittal ; and that she was restored to her rank and her rights. Of that rank and legal rights she was in the full posses sion, _and they had been formally recognized.— All . the rest were " Trifles light as - air," as had been - admitted by the Hon. and Learned Gen- tleman, the highest in her Majesty's legal confi deuce. A distinctiOn had certainly- been drawn as to the charaet.t. •in which the lion. and Learned Gentleman had made that observation ; but he (Mr. II.) had yet 'to learn that the House could consider any statement made by a Member of that House, as the statement of Counsel in the capacity of an Advocate. From the documents which had appeared on the table' of that House, it was evident that the question upon the Li turgy had not been considered an insurmount able obstacle ,to an adjustment. lie would, -in deed, ask the ll6n. and Learned Gentleman wile.; ther it was consistent in- hini'to bear the, proposal to her Majesty, which he did, if he conceived the question of the Liturgy was a point which she ought not to concede ? He trusted all these cir- cumstances, which came out piecemeal, would be fully explained by ,Mr. Brougham: This was the more important, because, as her Majesty had sent down a Message, stating that she would not accept any- provision' until- the restoration of her name in the Litui•gy, it was•prohable the next Session would produce a•retraction of that Mes- sage„ on the ground of its being calculated to in crease the present difficulties. After glancing at the inquiry of 180 G, and the Council of 1813, which restricted her Majesty's i►►tercourse with the late Princess Charlotte, Mr. Iluskisson pro ceeded to notice the co►►duct of her Majesty on her, late journey to the Continent, observimg, that if she was really innocent, no conduct could have been adopted so calculated to excite suspicion.— The Honourable Gentleman particularly dwelt upon the. advancement of Bergami under very mysterious circumstances, and the secresy which was observed respecting him. Mr. if. then al luded to the reports which had given rise to the Milan Commission ; and contended, that not to take notice of her Majesty's conduct, would be to disregard the best interests of the State.— Was he to be told that the personal honour of .the Sovereign and the dignity of the Country had no connection with each other? But it was earnestly desired by the Ministers that there should be no disclosure : and the course then taken was likely to promote the honour of the country. This wish of the Ministers was sup ported by communications with Mr. Brougham himself, who was supposed to know her.Majes. ty's views. After observing upon the necessity under which the Ministers felt themselves to institute the late.•proceedings on the failure of all negotiation, Mr. Iluskisson returned to the motion before the house. The motion, it was admitted, was an endeavour to get Ministers out of their situations nuclei' a: vote of censure. It was a good piece of generalship, and might be compared to a political battle of Waterloo. Even if the present motion failed, it was confidently expected that its failure would be auxiliary to the grand object. The nousci • were told that their tables would be 'crowded with Petitions for a Reform in Parliament; and with this view there could be no doubt that the Generals, the Adjutants, and the Landwehr were called, out masse to fight the battle of reform. The House, of course, must meet these petitions as well as they could. Probably they wo u ld plac'e ? If any Learned Gentleman had seen tar have nothing to . do- but establish Univer a brief that must have been suggested. Yet it wa sal Suffrage, Anhual Parliaments, and Else- clearly proved that the man wasgrossly perjured tion by Ballot; or if those threatened Petitions her Majesty not having been at the place mor should take another turn, and differ from each than one night, of which there was the evident, other, the House might send the Petitions of the Gazette, n which the Lord Ch ance ll o r hi m to Committees, w ith hastructios to' count the self !teknowledged, though' not legal testlinony eignatures in favour _of - (*lt ',specific re fsru2, was rie9ral testimony, and satisfied-a-his nlind.o the object of- theyarious Petiti9ns, and -report- %be t ru th o f w h a t i t stated, and • tliti. consdqneh the result. - : But Willi reference - 'to-7the'question falsehood of the winks. This he mentioned a! of the Liturgy, Mr. li. contended that if that a sample of the manner in which the evidenca point had been conceded, other points would be had been goteup.—(Hear.)—Wh en lie saw all tio raised, and the difference would .b e no neare r evils which had been brought upon the country arrangement than at first. A restoration of her he could net help declaring that his Majesty': name winald be nothing less than proclaimin g Ministers had done more within the last few that the Queen was. entitled -to honour and ells-. mcmtlis to lower the standard of morality Thar tinction ; that if she was-not preliseWorthy, she the writings of all the feeethinkhrs from the tune at least was blatneless. It would be prod . aim_ of Thulall to the present day. '''he Hon. Mem• .iog that she was fit to be the pattern of female ber- then took a brief survey of the injurious virtne, and an example for the Englisltsex. Now, effeCt of the proceedings, as they respected the was that the fair result of the inquiry ? lie thou g ht Monar c hy, the Church, and the character Of-the it impossible for 'any reasonable man to say so. peopl e , and concluded with attributing the whole Jt appeared to him that the questiOn of the Liturgy of those evils to the ruisconiutt of his Majesty's could make no possible ditfereeke as to her legal Ministers. He Censured the language of the rights ; nor to the iMpression which every man has lion. Member for Corfe Castle (Mr: flankes) received, one way or the other, upon the Queen's for attributing base and desperate `motives to conduct. This must be the criterion by which men for a difference of Political opinion : he re that question was t 0 he judged, and he tho ug ht • probated th e te r m-f ac ti on so applied, but he said the circumstances fully justified the 'proceeding. he could tell the Right Hone Genth.sman of a lie repeated that he thought .no unprejudiced faction who had used the 'Queen as a ster;ping man could lay his hand upon his heart, and say stone to pewer, and then, to use a familiar phrase, that he believed her conduct was free from I had thrown her over board. Mien her Majesty reproach. H e had always felt an anxious lost her aucient and factionfiri: l i ip f ri )r 2 o s( t ! e h c ,t t , o s r iiro tl r i l a o t un,eci desire that this subject should be. brought thought fit to cull out of the evidence_ given ill to a termination. lie had viewed it as he 1806, whiCh they had and to perjured, certain parts. would view any other national calamity. The be blasted a infamous, concession which was required would- afford a as the foundation of fresh chaiges. Not a par .signal triumph to the language and the doctrines tide of State necessity had been shewn to exist:: which she had so exten s i ve ly promulged. H e hut no State necestay could justify his Majesty's. thought that Ministers had taken a line of con- Ministers in hayiug sent forth to the country that duct which mi g ht ha ve l e d t o, an adjustment. which, had any other person ventured tO publish, The Queen's legal rights were ,recogniseda no he knew how he would have been treated by further proceedin g s a ga i ns t h er were intended ; his Majesty's Attorney-General„ lie cared not and with the provision now before the house, he who succeeded to the places of the Ministers, thought those measures m i g ht have terminated. but thinkingdas he did that they lied degraded. -lie begged to rep e at th a t i n hi s opinion conces- and disgraced themselves. and the cotintry, he 'slop upon the question of the Lit ur gy would have must as an honest man oppose them to the utmost been productive of the worst of mischiefs. l'ie of his power. a . had assisted by his v ot e every measure which had Mn NV Eee ES LEY Pout: said, he could assure an appearance o f l ea di ng t o an a dj ustm e nt. Th at 1 the House that it was riot his lOtention to detain adjustment had not taken place ; awl the lat e l the House long ; but as a Member of his Ma inquiry, necessarily followed ; an i n q u i r y - whi c h j e sty's -Government lie could not sit silent under :he feared had lowered the tone of moral and ee ..: the : charge, which on this and the last night had ligious - feeling in the country; and the present been brought forward against th e Ad m i n i s t ra ti o h.' Motion" was calcUlated t o con ti nue the realm- e felt himself oblig e d • to the Noble Lord who hrance of. that i nqu i r y. The H on , Gentlem a n had brought forward this motion, and to the concluded by apologizing for the l e ngth at which Honourable Member who seconded it, for the he had troubled the House ; but declared he distinct and candid avowal of their object—aupon could not 'give his vote against the motion, with- a former occasion some doubt might be entertain out stating the reasons by which he was influent- ed Upon the subject, but it was now quite obyia ed. Mr. Huskisson sat down amid very general ous, indeed it was fairly avowed, that the great cheering-. - Purpose for Which this m o ti on was brought for- Mr. BENNET said. that 'he should think ill of ward, was to effect the di sm i ss i on o f hi s Majes . . . hithself if he . did not put upon reco r d hi s op i n i on t y 's Ministers. As to tire motion itself it was a of the conduct of hiS Majesty's Ministers. lie secondary consideration, it was merely a vehicle did not intend to follow the Right lion. Gentle- chosen to produce the desired change, and un man through a Speech Which seemed constructed doubtedly it was well chosen, because it would for the debate of a former night on the question 'Carry with it a stronger force than any other that of the Liturgy, but which,• as the Right Hon. could have heen selected. But the \ . oble- Lord, .Gentleman probably thought too good to be lost, and the Hon. Member, were not doing any thins he had fa‘;oUred the House with it on the present new aeon th LS occasion, they 'were only do7ns Occasion. Ile should premise the observations i t , l ir m e t s.e l t v it hi a c d h .i t .i h ti e j a v : ti l .a ia t f i l o, b , been beendoirigfoers:neer formed, since ,h t e h r e make by ,Stdting, e he intended to. ;flint- Gentlemen Who had spoken on the other side, was.searcely one of the efficient acts of adminise : with the exception of Ministers themselves, dis- tration for the last ten years, which the Hon 'claimed some part or other .of .their conduct. - - "centlemen opposite to hint had not opposed, and The 'Noble Lord (Castlereagh) had last ye,ar in- for which they would not have been quite as ready formed the House that the Bill wou ld be sup- t o •p ass a vote•of censure upon Ministers as they ported by . persons'of . credit and character ; but were upon the present occasion. It was important it was curious to observe that not one pethon of that the House should bear this i n mi n d, because that description was . examined at the bar of the when Gentlemen so - loudly exclaimed that thecou - House of Lords in support of that tittle-tattle duct of ninisters for the last six months deserved gesSip and tea-table scandal which bad first 'all the censure it was now endeavoured Le heap O! caused 'the issuing -of the Milan Commission. He their heads, it was but fair to ask whether th os l . believed no one could he folind who.-would come. 'Gentlemen everentertainedany Other opinion, :Ana.' for Ward and own that gossiping intelligence.— whether they had not been, at ail times, and upon fle,that as it might, on that information hie Ma- all occasions, equally 'violent in their Oppositicia jesty's Ministers had sent f o rward the Milan ---equally loud- in -- their censures—and equally Commission. A n d h ere b e wou ld ask, wire- anxious to effect the removal of the present-Paini ther the rank and ' character which sent for- sters ?—(Near, hear.)—He would ask whether 'ward the first information was riot Ompteda ? the Gentlemen . opposite to liiin bail not held this That Commission- b e i ng a pp o i n t e d,: all that' 'language even upon occasions when it was quite followed was of course ; the natural ceise- obvious that the sense of th e country was dec id e quence was to force her- Majesty into this coun- edly with Minister's . , he did not mean of the whole i country.. because was certainlytrue that the Majesty's and to brine upon it a ll th e ev il s which iris . ~ it Majesty's .Alinisters p re t e nded t o d e pr e cate.— present hlinisters.nev er had the good fortune to Could" any other result be expected when her possess the confidence, or obtain the approbation, Majesty was, in a mariner, excommunicated, of the Gentlemen on the other side of the House. styled Princess Caroline of England, and treated •It .was not his intention to enter at large into the in the' way she had been by those Ha n o ver i an defenceof th e conduct of' his Majesty's Ministers, animals—(Hear!)—at a time too when she was because the House had already heard that con- Queen of England ? If one-fourth part of what -duct most satiSfaCtorily and triumphantly vindie was afterwards sent through the whole country cated, and he did' not Wish to weaken the effect was knoWn to Ministers at the tune they made of the speeches • whielt must have made' a deep certain offers to her Majesty, they , deserved to . impression upon the House, but there were some be impeached. It was to. have been expected points that had 'been urged which he could not by the House that a Right Hon, Gentleman now pass ov er witho u t notice. Lit the Course .of this. . .. absent from the country, would have possessed de he te 'some declarations bad been made and some doctrines laid down, which were quite ' neW some information. but lie, tho ug h h e concurre d in striking her Majesty's name out of the. Li-.. to him,aud WlP= l r he believed were equally wt. turgy, vet Came down to ' that House, and de- to a great majority of that House. It had bee n Glared, not surreptitiously, but openly and. in stated by the propoFers and supp or t ers of (11i.5. the hearing of his colleagues, and stated th a t hi s motion, that it w - ae in'tliffer e nt to theM wleether attachment and affection to that illustrious per- it met with the approbation of the Houeoor not . soilage remained the same, and that she was —it was ,immaterial to them Whether the Minie the, Confidence of- the house of e fo v r e r r ne s d oc t it2 o tbye she e g h r o a s c e e . .a to nd s o e r ie n c a t m . en l t: v b as f it iv p h o a s t :: ‘s c t o e l r n s in i o !o n s:e.: r ed not—die confidence Which those Bible that the Right Hon.-Gentleman could have Gentlemen - wished to obtain was not that seen the evidence subsequently published ? Per e e of the Commons House of Parliament, but haps the Hon. Mearther who bad on a former of a certain crasS of people ottt of doors / night deprecated all discussion in the absence .of , wtio ,we re always. ready. to oppose Ministers. Iris Rig-ht Hen. Friend, could infertn,the House - --=The opinion of the House of Commons if that Right Hon. G e ntleman's consent to omit Was now for the first time declared to be her Majesty's , n ame i n th e Liturgy was a sort of of no importance ---it was of no avail that standingc om pro u ise. that House devoted .theoirf that n ‘ o V p a r s oc it ee l ;l o h t ig,s gi sZul o d n ta a k i e l . tinder timetltie Gaentdlti-et'lltlceilrl faculties. of to th eai n vestigat ion He did not kno w if thi s were so or not, dais great question ; their decision was worth but he had heard .it confidently whispered. rlothing in line opinion of tire Gentlemen on the . The great charge against the Ministers Was• other side ; th at i s to say, if their decision charhap their utter want of caution in r eceiving evidence, 'pelted to be , in forour Of Ministers. 'lt was quite the entire abSence of those o r dinary pains which new to hear it stated in that House that it was of would have been taken in an y o th e r case. Who no importance that the Ministers of the 'Crowil could have believed that an individual should-be should possess the confidence of the Representa found who swore that for five successive-mornings tiees of the People —of the Constitutional he ' either, saw her M a j es ty co ming out of . the guardians of their rights. B u t-i t was very extra chamber of her paramour,,,or be .returning frcql ordinary to observe the great vacillation of the her's ?-WoOld it not•have been natural to inquire Whigs upon this a s we ll as u p on other sub j ec ts. if her. Majesty had really been five•days at tire I /