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PARLIAMENT, NOUSE OF LORDS, ,MAY 22. Counsel were heard in a Committee of Privi -legbs on the Strathmore Peerage, mid the further bearing was postponed till Tuesday.—The Irish Law Courts Regulation Bill was read the third time and passed.—The Steam Engine Bill went through the Committee„and was reported. GRAMPOLTND DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL. 'The Earl of CIERNIRVON moved that the Bill be printed with its amendments, in order that their .Lordships might' he in - possession of the %% hole previous to the third readiqg en Thursday. The Earl of LAUDEL:DALE wished the third reading to be delayed beyond the time of which - notice had been given. ThiS Bill propoSed to impose a duty on the county of York, which probably. would not. be very agreeable to most of the inhabitants. If ; time were given to collect their opinions,, , it was very probable that the quiet people of Yorkshire would protest against being troubled with the riots of additional elec. Their• Lordships ought, in common de cency, to allow time for the intelligence of the !teration made in the Bill to go to the county of york, and petitions to be received, before they vassed the Bill. tlOll. The LORD CHANCELLO 11, objecting to the Bill altogether, would be very well pleased if their Lordships waited to see whether the people of iorkshire liked the Bill or not. The Earl of WESTMORLAND, though he oppos the Bill, protested against the pripciple which supposed that the House should not judge for itself on any measure , w ith o ut car i ng w h et h er other persons liked it or not. He wished, how ever, that time should be allowed for the county to petition, for he thought the Bill was rendered much more objectionable by the alteration than it was before. Earl FITZ WILLIAM said a few words in a low tone of voice, and, as we understood, wished to give time for informing the county of York on the subject of the, Bill. The Earl of LIVERPOOL would not now dis cuss with his Noble Friend (Lord Westmorland) - whether the Bill was better or worse for the al teration it 'had received ; but with respect to waiting for petitions from the county of York, if that were to be done, he should be glad to know in what manner the sentiments of the inhabitants 'were to be collected. That many persons in the county would object to the arrangement, he did nbt doubt ; and he was equally certain that the same thing would happen were the transfer made to Leeds or any other great town. If it had been proposed to give the representation to Manches-' ter or Birmingham, petitions would easily have been procured from great and respectable people in those towns, praying against being troubled - with riotous elections. It was, however, the duty of Parliament to consider what was best for the interests of the country. • The Earl of DA RNLEY was glad that this Bill should pass in any form ; and on that account, - though he was not satisfied with it, had not offer ed any opposition yesterday, and should not now. lie wished that the representation had been given to a populous town, but upon a principle more popular than that which it contained in the shape in which it came from the Commons. 1.460 gi:LENDORMIGII thought that the House - sVouid have acted more uisety if they had divid ed the franchise of the corrupt Borough, and given one Member to Lancashire and one to rirorkshire.- Some further conversation followed but no de lay was agreed to ; and the third reading remains fixed for Thursday. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented the Re port of the Committee on the Grampound Dis franchisement Bill.—Laid on the table. Petitions were presented by the Marquess o LANSDOWN from the Protestant Dissenting Mi. misters of the three denominations in the neigh. bourhood of London, praying for a ievision of the penal code and the mitigation of punish• meats. • TIMBER DUTIES. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition 'from Prince Edward's Island against the Timber Duties Bill. ' The Order of the Day for going into Commit tee on the Timber Duties Regulation Bill having teen read, Earl 11.vrittrasT rose , to state shortly to the House, the general character and nature of the Bill. ln 1809, we had been excluded from every port of the Continent, on account of the state of IJostility which existed between this country and all the European powers. The Government of France, desirous of embarrassing our operations and crippling our means, had even contrived to 'deprive us of all communication with the rest of Europe, through the medium of neutral vessels. -Under these circumstances, we had been thrown back -upon.our own resources, and it had become• necessary to draw from our North American co- Jonies those supplies of timber which Norway and Russia had hith er t o afforded us. For that purpose, encouragement was to be given to the one side, and withholden from the other. Heavy duties were therefore laid on the importation of timber from the Baltic, whilst that from our Co lonies was left free. The amount of those - duties was W. is. per load of timber; whereas the former duty was only 6s. This, however, had never been intended as a permanent arrange ment, and in 1817, notice had been given of the intentions of Government to take the whole sub ject into re-consideration, with the view either of laying a duty on colonial timber, or of with drawing the protection which it still received from the large duties on .timber from the Baltic. The effect of this notice hail been to create an .alarm among the persons concerned in the colonial trade, and to induce them to make large importations of .timber, without any .additional demand for that article.; and when, on the contrary, the pre-existing demand was likely to diminish. In 1817, before the no tice had , been given, the importation from our Colonies had been 136,044 loads of fir timber. in 1818, after the notice had been issued, the importation of the _same .article from the same quarter had risen to 203 ? 000 loads. In the same year also, without any apparent reason whatever, except a mistaken - spirit of spe culation, there had been a considerable in crease of importation of timber aom the, Bal tic. In 1817 the importation from that quarter had been 79.900 loads ; in. 1818, it had risen to 130,000. So that the general importation of timber in that single year, both from our Colo nies and from the Baltic, amounted to 3.3,000 loads, whereas in 1817 it had been only 216,000. In 1819, the importation from both quarters had continued to increase. That from our Colonies had been 249,000 loads, and that from the Bal tic 102,000, making a total of 351,000 loads for that single year. He had stated these facts, to shew, that during the last few years, the Timber Trade had not been in a natural, but in a forced and'unusual state, on which it would be fallacious and unfair to found any arguments, for the embarrassments created in that trade had arisen from excessive importations, unjustified by any demand, and could not be justly attributed to the state of the duties. The Noble Earl then described - the want of proper gradations in the amount of the duties on Baltic Timber, which had been noticed by the Committee, and whirl the present Bill was in part intended to correct, It had been found that the duty was the same on planks eight feet in length, as on those which were twenty. The amount of that duty was 201. 15s. Bd. on every hundred. Now the planks which came from Norway were generally fifteen feet in length, and those from Petersburgh twenty, so that an unfair advantage was given to the latter. A lower duty had also been laid on all planks below eight feet, under the impression that they were of a very inferior description, and formed no article of trade. In order, however, to avoid the higher duty, planks had been imported a little below eight feet, and had become a con siderable article of trade. The present Bill con tained provisions to meet all those cases. The existing duty on planks below eight feet was 71.: it was now proposed to raise it to 81., and to make it apply to all, planks below six feet. From six to sixteen feet, the duty would be 19/. ; and from 16..t0 21 feet, 22/. The duty on planks 16 feet long was intended as a relief to the Nor way trade, which would now pay 11. 155.8 d. less On every hundred than it had hitherto been obliged to do. With respect to the compara tive duties on Colonial and Baltic Timber, the. Committee had certainly admitted the principle that timber and other articles ought to be procured where they.could be got cheaper and best, but taking into consideration the cir cutnstances under which our Colonial Timber Trade had arisen, it had thought that some pro tection and encouragement should be continued to it for a time, and that the only duty laid upon it at first, should not exceed the amount taken off from the Baltic timber. In proposing this, however,. it was by no means intended that the arrangement should be permanent. He wished it to be clearly understood that his Ma jesty's Ministers were not to be considered as pledging themselves to maintain it in force any longer than it should appear expedient. It was to be regarded as a subject fit, at all times, to be revised, and consequently liable to alterations.— He did not mean that it should be altered at the expiration of three or four years, but after-a fair lapse of time. His Lordship then entered into some details respecting the price of Baltic timber in' former years when' the duty was only 6s. a load; and latterly when it amounted to 3/. 55., and showed that since the increase in the duty, the price of the article bad only risen 11. He concluded by recommending to their Lordships to move with caution in a case where great inte rests were concerned, and where, if they should hastily extinguish the Colonial trade, they would afterwards find much difficulty in reviving it. At the same time the taking off of 10s. from the duty on Baltic timber, and laying a duty to the same amount on timber from out colonies, would not injure their trade. By the last accounts the Baltic timber was getting up in price in conse quence of the probability that the present Bill would pass. This rise would be advantageous to our colonies, and in all likelihood would counter balance the effect of the alterations which it was proposed to make in the duties. He then moved that the House resol ve its e lf i n t o a Committee. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, he should not trouble their Lordships at great length in the state in which the [louse was, which, considering the paramount importance of the question, was to him surprising. It had been the wise policy of the cou►ltry till 1809, not to tax timber at all. The evil, therefore, could not have taken deep root, and when they had learnt from experience, that the effect of that system of taxation was to force bad timber upon them at a high price. It had been proved before a .Committee of that House, that American timber was a very inferior article to the Norway timber. The difference in value of these two articles might be estimated by the answer of one of the witnesses at .the bar of that House, who, when asked what lie would re commend a customer to give for the fellow of a house built in London with - Norway timber, value 60001., the house to be purchased being built of American timber, answered, that' he could not in his conscience recommend any one to purchase it at any price. The fact was, that the imposition of these duties was neither more, nor less than a colonial job. It was in direct opposition to the recommendation of the Re- ports of the Committee of that House on Foreign Trade then on their table, which directed them to obtain all articles from l i the places where they were to be got best and cheapest, without re ference to the place. So far from acting on this ise principle, they had actually offered a boun ty for a bad article. It was unjust and ungrateful towards Norway, who, notwithstanding our pro scription of their productions by high duties, had scarcely made any alteration in her duties on our commodities ; whilst the . favoured Russia ever since the peace had followed up a regular system of restrictive duties towards this country. He knew that although this Report to which he alluded contained some of the most absurd prin "ciples of legislation, also contained in some cor- tier or another some of the most sensible notions on the subject that had ever been broached. The true common sense of the question w,as, that we should make use of those treasures which the bounty of nature afforded us in the quarter most .at hand ; and when that was exhausted, go fur ther off. It was contended in support of the present system, that it was in favour of the ship ping ; and• indeed the Report on Cle table laid it down distinctly that the slipping-interest-was the principal one concerned. So that for ,the Rapport of a number of rotten transports unfit to swim any thing but timber, the country was to have forced upon it an inferior article. It was not this ship ping, but the old shipping interest that was at all concerned in the Colonial timber trade.— But he (Lord Lauderdale) contended that there were two interests—the one was the old ship ping, and the other a capital of some 150,0001. laid .oat in the construction of saw mills. It could not be contended that it was beneficial to our Colonies, because the profit of their timber enabled them to clear lands; for it had been proved 'that clearing their lands by burning, which produced the exportable article of pot-ash, was more beneficial to the lands. With these views of the question he would not trouble-their Lordships with any further observations, but move, as an amendment, That the Bill be com mitted that day six months. Lord ELLENBOROUGII said, that although he agreed in almost every point offered by his Noble Friend to their Lordships, he could not agree to his amendment, because he thought there was some little good in the Bill before the House, and because he feared that if they rejected that Bill the shipping interest had that extraordinary power in the country to prevent any other mea sure with any good in it from being brought in. With respect to the Bill itself, he regarded it as a measure offering a bounty for the introduction of the dry rot into every building in the country. He would not detain the House at that time ; but before he sat down, he must declare that he should never again attend a Committee of that House on foreign trade with any expectation of doing goo( to his country. Lord K ING took the same view of the ques ion as the Noble and Learned Lord, and strong y deprecated the Bill. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that the -13 before the House had not his entire concur• rence, as he considered it to bo drawn up on an erroneous principle ; but at the same time although it did not apply a remedy of that full and universal nature which was so de sirable, it contained some good in it, and as " half a loaf was better than no bread," he should support the Bill. lle admitted that the plan on which the measure was framed was con trary to the doctrine which inculcated the seek- ing the best article at the lowest price ; yet it must be obvious to their Lordships, that there might be circumstances, not of 'policy, but of jus tice, which would authorise their acting in contra diction of that principle. Interests, connected with this branch of trade, had been so fostered and encouraged during the war, which it would not be altogether right to abandon now. The ques tion was, whether the Bill went further than the Report on the table ? and also, whether it did not go to place the trade on a better footing than it was before ? With regard to the first of these, he was ready to admit, that it did not go further than the Report : but it did also place the trade on a better footing than it was before, for it reduced the duty on foreign timber from 31. 15s. to 21..155. which was an alteration for the better not to be slighted. Another consideration of some weight was that it employed a great number of our transports. And in reply to the arguments of Noble Lords on that particular point, he had only to observe, that it was not the employment of the vessels alone that was to be considered, but the value of the employment of British sea men as well as the ships. It had been the prac tice of their Lordships to give protection to the industry of their own country, in preference to the industry of a foreign, and that was a prin ciple he could perfectly understand ; but he could not understand why we should give the preference to the industry and productions of one foreign nation over another. It was that prin ciple of the Bill alone that he disapproved of ; in other respects, for reasons he had stated, he was willing to support it. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, that after having obtained an unanimous concurrence of opinion in a Committee of their Lordships, which recommended measures founded upon right prin ciples, ,they were told by the Noble Earl at the head of his Majesty's Government, that they were to pass a Bill founded upon other and erroneous principles, and that such a measure was to remain a part of our permanent system. The Noble Marquis argued that Norway ought to receive the same encouragement as Russia, and contended that the latter was favoured by the Bill on their Lordships' table. He confessed that hencefor ward he should look with deep despondency to wards the placing our commerce upon principles of soufid policy, aftk r* the failure of such efforts as had been made upon the present occasion. lie should be anxious for one to continue those efforts, although he did so in perfect despair, and always to adhere to principles, and to resist the consideration of local interests. There was one question which be wished to ask of the Noble Secretary of State, namely, whether there was any understanding- with the Colonists, or any other body, that these defective arrangements were to be considered as permanent. He was aware there could be no direct engagement of ibis kind, but what he wished to be satisfied of was, that there was no indirect understanding. Earl BATHURST could only repeat, in reply to the question of the Noble Marquis, which he had before stated, that he knew of no engagement what- ever of the nature of that to which he alluded. The Amendment was then put and negatived. Before their Lordships went into the Committee, The Earl of LAUDERDALE said that he wished to submit a case to their Lordships, which he conceived to be one of the greatest hardship. There were many merchants who had sent out ships for cedars that were expected home in the course of a few weeks, and by the provisions of the . l3lll such timber would be subjected to the payment of the double duty. He trusted that some exception would be made in their favour. The Earl of LivEaroot., as far as we were THE SUN. SOLE)! QUI§ DICERE FALS.UM AUDE.IT? LONDON, WEDNESDAY, MAY 23, 1821. The Paris Papers of Sunday which arrived this morning furnish no additional news from Spain. A private lettei from Vienna of• the 9th instant says, that a traveller; who represented himself as a Colonel in the Russian service, and the bearer of very important dispatches to Laybach, was, lately arrested at the barrier of Tabor. His passports were forged. The pretended dispatches were seized, but the particulars have not tran spired. The families of several of the most, distinguish ed Boyers of Bucharest and Jassy are arrived at Vienna ; and. it is added, that many Greek Agents, employed no doUbt to watch over the interests of their nation, are also in that capital, whose motions are vigilantly observed by the Public Authorities. The Russian Consul-General of Moldavia and Walachia is arrived at Laybach. The Gazette of Bremen states that Professor Kituq has just published a pamphlet entitled The Regeneration of Greece, in which he eulogises the courageous resolution of the Greeks to shake off, even without the assistance of Christians, the Ot toman yoke, and to deliver the sacred soil of Greece from the oppressions of . the Barbarians. The author then enumerates the obstacles which may prevent the success of the enterprize ; but he is of opinion that they are not so difficult to surmount as is generally supposed : and he con cludes by a poetic and prophetic effusion on the glorious results that the Greeks may reasonably expect, if, inspired by the noble deeds recorded in their history, they imitate the spirit Of.lheir ancestors. , Berlid , vre learn that M. Munt.t.lrets, who was confined iii`the - town prison for seditious conduct, has effected his escape, by what means it is not known. The Prussian Government have concluded an arranoment with the POPE for the maintenance of eight Episcopal Sees in the Prus sian States. The Bishops are to be chosen by the respective chapters of each diocese, and their election is to be confirmed by the POPE after the previous canonical examination. The Diario di Roma states, that the Neapo litan army is re-organizing, and. all the revolu tionary Officers are put aside with the minutest care. Generals CARASCOSA., FILANGIERI, PIG NATELLI, STRONGOLI, AMBROSIO, and ARCOVITO have been dismissed the service. Several fresh arrests have taken place ; among others, those of Colonel COSTA, Captain GARTON, and of the in trepid Deputy and Advocate POEIrIO, who pleaded publicly before the Tribunals the cause of four individuals, arrested just as they were embarking for Spain. Other measures of seve rity are resorted to at Naples against all persons who were in the least concerned in the late Re- volution. A very animated discussion took place on Sa turday in the French Chamber of Deputies, on the petition of M. LAPORTE GERMAINS, a Pro fessor at Paris, praying that three special Col leges should be created for the instruction of the children of Protestants. M. M. BENJAMIN CON STANT, MANuEL, and others, contended that the Protestant Religion was not sufficiently protected, agreeably to the Charter. The Minister of Fo reign Affairs, and M. CORBIERES on the other hand maintained, that every toleration was grant ed to the Protestant religion, and the instruction of the children of Protestants provided for by the State, compatible with the superior degree of support necessary to be given to the Establish ed Religion of the Country. The Petition was rejected, by the Houe passsing to the Order of the Day. The Chamber then proceeded to resume the consideration of the Law relative to the Clergy; the second article of which, as amended by the Commission, was passed, au tho risingthe creation of twelve new Bishopricks, and afterwards in succession of eighteen others, as circumstances may render necessary. FRENCH FUNDS. May 19, Five per Cents Bank Stock 83 f. 95 c. 1560 f. —.c. ,Since receiving -the above this morning, we have received, by Express, French PaperS to the 22d inst., the contents of which we subjoin : " VIENNA, MAY 10.—The affairs of Turkey are drawing to a close. The Ottoman army has taken the field sooner than was expected. Its vanguard advanced on the 19th April from Fockan to Braila. The Greeks immediately fell back. The next day the Seraskier himself made a general reconnoissance at the head of a corps of 8000 men, and the Greeks immediately fell back some leagues. Ypsilanti and Theodore bear such a violent hatred to each other, that it would not be surprising if they soon came to blows : one of them has about 3 or 4000 men, the other 10 or 12,000. All these troops are halinaked, and unarmed; they subsist only by pillage, which they exercise , with a degree of ferocity that makes no difference between friends and enemies -(L'Etoik, May 20.) " VIENNA, MAY 10.—We receive the follow-. ing details from Hungary :—On the 19th ult. the Turks pushed a reconnoissance towards Galacz- The vanguard of the Greeks fell hack on the .main body. The Turks, who were 4000 strong, not only did not advance, but retired into their fortress of Brailow. On the 2lst.the whole Ot• toman army, commanded by a Pacha, who i# lately arrived from Constantinople, again ad vanced on the road to Galacz. The Greeks re treated partly into that fortress, where they have a numerous garrison, and partly on board their fleet, which is stationed near that place. Tile Turks have contented themselves with occupy log the country three or four leagues round Braila%S"• C[ As for Ypsilanti, after quitting Bucharest/ on the 13th of April,where he left a garrison, it seems that he marched to the Danube, persisting in his project of making an irruption into Bulgari° , where he expects to find numerous partisans. " A report has been in circulation for sow ° days that our Army of Observation, which is as" sembled in the Bannat of Temesuar, will ShOrt l Y be put in motion. It is said. it will be in con cert with the Ottoman Porte. . "MADRID, MArlO.---Favourable accounts have just been received from America. The UniVer . sal announces that two Deputies from Bolivar are expected, who must soon arrive, as the dispatch able to collect very imperfectly what he said in a low tone of voice, disclaimed any intention to render cargoes of cedar so circumstanced liable to the double duty. The Bill was then committed, and after the Report had been received, ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.--Adjourned. `-• • HOUSE OF COMMONS, The House having assembled at the usual hour, proceeded to ballot for a Committee on the Petersfield Right of Election Petitions, but there being no more than 86 Members prevent at four o'clock, they of course stood adjourned to to morrow (this day.) PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEbINGS. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Maths, 22° die Mail, 1821. • . PETERS,FI ELD Borough (Right of Election),—House count ed-85 Members present—Consideration of Petitions a& journed till To-morrow. 2. Names of Members absent from the House at the Ballot TO-lIMITOW to be set aside, and a List of such Names to be repot ted by Mr..Sp'eaker, at such time as the House shall .appoint :—Upon the Report of the List, the Mem bers for whose uon-attendance a sufficient excuse shall not be made, to be forthwith ordered to be taken into the custody of the Serjeant at Arms; and not to be discharg ed out of custody without the special Order of the House -*Adjourned at four o'clock. CHARLES 61ANNEns SurroN, Speaker. NOTICES OF MOTIONS, for WEDNESDAY, May 23d. 'l. Lord Nug e nt,-C o mn»ttee to inquire into Courts of Justice in the Island of Tobago. 2. Mr. Grey Bennet,*-Bill to amend the Law touching the Rescue of Prisoners. ,- ORDERS OF THE DAY, for WEDNESDAY, May 23d. Petersfield Borough, Right of Election, Petitions;- Ballot for Committee. 2. Names of Members absent at the Ballot, to be set aside 3. Forgery Punishment Mitigation Bill ;•-Comasitter, 4-Dwelling House Robbery Bill ;-Committee. b. Navigable Rivers Robbery Bill ;-Committee. 6. Securities (Ireland) Bill;-Second Reading. 7. Supply ;-Committee. 8. Assessed Taxes Composition Bill ;-Committee. 9. Cinque Ports Salvage Bill ;-Second Reading. 10. Salvage Act Amendment Bill;-Second Reading. 11. Ways and Meals ;-Committee. 12. Churches Building Acts Amendment Bill;-Committee. Dropped Orders of the Day of Monday, May 21 I. Woollen Trade Act;-Report thereupon. 2. South Sea Company Act ;-Report thereupon. 3. RUM Importation Act;-Report thereupon. 4. Customs Duties Act;-Committee thereupon. 5. Stamp Acts (Ireland);-Committee thereupon. 6, La/an Navig ation Acts;-Report th ereu p on . 7. Bank of Irel and Bill ;-Committee. • 8. Seamen's Wages Bill;-Report.. 9. East India Trade Act;-Committee thereupon. Dropped Notice of Motion of Monday, May 21. Mr. Irving,-Claim of General Desfourneaux, in conse quence of the Report of the Committee of last Session. Dropped Notices of Motions of Tuesday, May 22. 1. Mr. Holtne Sumner,-Committre on the Orphans' Fund, and other payments into the Chamber of the City of London. 2. Mr. Courtenay,-American Loyalists. 3. Colonel Davies,-To refer Petit ions concerning the adul teration of Clover and Troop Seed to a Select Com mittee. 4. Mr. Hutchinson,-Present state of Europe. 5. Mr. Vrotteslcy,-To transfer :Surrender of Bankrupts from Guildhall to the new. Bankruptcy Court. 6. Mr. Courtenan-Bill to facilitate the Conveyance o Trust Estates by Trustees who become Lunatics.. Dropped Orders of the Day of Tuesday, May 22 . 1. Chords Briefs Bill;-Further Consideration of Report 2. Metropolis Police Bill;-Committee. 3. Bankruptcy Laus Amendment Bill;-Committee. , • 4. Metropolis Roads Bill ;-Further Consideration of Report. . • 5. East India Private Trade Bill ;.-Commktee. 0. Coals Drawbacks Bill;-'Third Reading. 7. Proprietors of Wharfs Bill;-Report. 8. Supply ;-Reports. 9. Coroners (Ireland) Bill;--Further Consideration o Report. 10. Prisons (Ireland) Bill;-Committee. • I I. Election Expenses (Ireland).Bill ;-Report. 12. Land Revenue Bill;-1{e port. Dropped Second Reading of Private Bill of Tires day, May 22. Glasgow and Carlisle Road. PUBLIC COMMITTEES, for WEDNESDAY Morning, May 23 I. Prison Laws Consolidation - at one. 2. Optlialinic Hospital do. 3. Agriculture - at twelve. PRICE OI THIS DAY AT T%l Bank Stock 9 27 A 228 3 per Cent. Red 74 748 3 per Cent. Cons 74p 3} per Cent. 4 per Cent 92? Bank Long Ann. 18i 15-16ths F STOCKS VELVC O'CLOCK. per Cent. Navy Ann. 1090 India Bonds 465. Excheq. Bills 2 3 pr. Cons. for Account 74 sii Opening. 75. HIGH WATER AT LONDO. Morning, 8 minutes after 7. N BRIDGE TO-MORROW. I Evening, 37 minutes after 7.